That's the point of the channel isn't it? Otherwise it would be just us watching an interrogation. Him explaining and psychoanalyzing the interrogation allows us to learn and understanding how the human brain. Mind, and psyche works when a guilty person is being interrogated. Another funny thing is how come so many criminals decide to talk to the detective and ALMOST NEVER ASK FOR A LAWYER? It's like they think try and NOT GET A LAWYER AND TALK ALONE JUST TO SEE HOW MUCH THE COP KNOWS ABOUT THE CASE BUT IT ALWAYS BACKFIRES LMAO
Bomani Erasto How come so many criminals decide to talk to the detective and ALMOST NEVER ASK FOR A LAWYER? It's like they think try and NOT GET A LAWYER AND TALK ALONE JUST TO SEE HOW MUCH THE COP KNOWS ABOUT THE CASE BUT IT ALWAYS BACKFIRES LMAO
This is why this is one of the best channels out there for true crime. You get the understand the psyche of some of these people. This case was heartbreaking. This man had issues prior to him killing this poor girl.
Syntechi Gaming I also assumed that at first, but on one of his videos I got curious and thought like "wait a minute, I recognize this voice.." so I read the description and the creator has linked the narrator.
This channel wouldn't make sense otherwise. There's plenty of interrogation channels but only two or three that I know of that explain stuff in detail as you go.
Same, and he does it without ruining the entire video. There are so many vids I've started to watch and ended up turning them off bc the narrator talked over everything.
Uhhh that’s. kind of the point of the channel. Do you go to a restaurant and say “I like that someone cooks the food for me. It makes the experience more enjoyable?”
No doubt. There have been so many "JCS inspired" channels popping up, & while some are good they're just not quite hitting the mark when it comes to that aspect.
Hell I I'm pretty certain I already watched this vid when it first came out yet I'm back here watching it again because I'm thirsting for it.
JCS often imitated never duplicated.
If anyone knows of another channel that comes close feel free to name drop it. There have been so many popping up I want to know if I have been sleeping on any.
A couple low key ones I've come across that have done it fairly well is Aurace Crime & LGK.
Unfortunately they only have a few each but they seem promising. I'd encourage any & all to check them out in hopes the numbers\support will encourage them to do more.
For now I'll just have to be satisfied with JCS saying he'll upload more frequently. (Not that he owes us that. He produced many hours of great entertainment & inspired many others to do so as well, and for that reason JCS will forever be a legend in my book. )
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@Dan P have you watched all the different interrogation vids on the JCS Patreon? It’s well worth tossing the channel 5 bills or whatever it costs per month and run through all of them. Hell I’m still subscribed despite no new content in a while for the simple fact I like to circle back to specific scum bags in specific interrogations for specific reasons at random times lol. I’m an odd dude to be sure but check it out if you haven’t already.
Edited to add: the Patreon vids are ones not available on the public YouTube as far as I know.
@Dan P truthfully only bothered going over to it because someone mentioned some additional JCS content on there and that was more than enough motivation lol. Enjoy bud!
Brandon: I like these descriptive and sometimes speculative soliloquies regarding taking dead history and shining light, bringing them to life, coruscating these and other topics.
except that everything he says is wrong and he has no understanding of criminal law or criminal investigations. He also makes massive leaps of logic when he states psych principals based only off of limited interview footage.
Not making fun of him. His nervousness is making him unable to stop talking, you can feel something totally wrong in the first 2 minutes. I know little about police tactics, but these cops are doing it just right. Thank God.
@L C that’s literally how he is though. He always elaborates more than he needs to in conversations but Ofcourse this would’ve made him talk way more than usual being nervous
"I'm gonna die while in jail." Thats a whole lot better than dying while being beat to death, being striped of the opportunity to say good bye to her loved ones and then being thrown in a fire pit and lake, being discarded as trash. When psychopaths finally cry, it is always for themselves first and never the victim.
psychopaths don’t cry or feel emotion like that. not every murderer is a psychopath. he made an absolutely horrible and despicable decision to murder her, more than likely a crime of passion. he’s literally explaining to himself why he’s an idiot and questioning why he did it. he’s a piece of shit no doubt, but he’s not a psychopath.
@Jordan Hughes yeah, people really seem to like to fit their chosen narrative around this story but it doesn't apply here. Tell them that, though, and you'll be accused of defending a murderer. Wish nuance would get back into fashion...
I don't think he meant to kill her at all. He meant to hit her. He meant to hurt her. He is a total piece of shit. But, snapping her neck could HAVE been unintentional. He may have only meant to choke her out while he hit her, snatched her forward and broke her neck. Again, I say bury him under the jail. But, call it 2nd degree murder instead of first. A crime of passion.
@Bradley J. Fortner idk if he meant to kill her or not but you’re right in that I don’t believe this was premeditated, and therefore isn’t first degree murder.
It’s likely a problem that you think you aren’t capable of winding up in a situation like this with a minor tweak of context. Most murders are in-the-moment explosions and many of us carry the potential to lose control. That’s not to defend him. He got 40 years, stop being self righteous and pretending you’re a judge. You’re engaging in YouTube murder voyeurism you’re not some angel and all of us have monsters in us.
@Jason G I actually agree with you although I think murderers are in for some judgement. It’s just hard to fathom this dude lost everything because something so replaceable; a job at Bonefish Grill in Florida. Have you been to Florida? There’s a grill/restaurant like that every half a mile. The thought, “ok she’s gonna get me fired but I can get another job within the week” isn’t far off. Dummy really essential snapped for nothing. I think 40 years is fair too bc you’re right, I don’t think this crime was premeditated.
Arguably, Savannah had a better fate. She at least won’t be rotting in jail for decades. Probably shouldn’t have murdered her if he didn’t want to spend the rest of his life in Jail.
@Jordan Hughes I agree.. he is one of those that can actually be rehabilitated after committing a serious crime.. but they all go to the same place anyways.. he didn’t seem like he did other crimes also which also supports my theory of him not being an evil person per say but very stupid.. he must have been so mad when she got in his car that he could not control his rage and emotions.. I’ve been there not with killing someone obviously but being so mad that my judgment was clouded and I was not thinking 5 mins in the future just about that exact moment. Only after you calm down do you realize that your actions are gonna have consequences
@Philip Fresco I've never broken someone's neck intentionally or unintentionally but IDK how you can legitimately guarantee something like that. How can you know for a fact It's impossible to accidentally break someone else's neck? It seems like youre just attempting to frame your opinion of this case as the objective truth... basically letting your supposed expertise in the science of breaking necks take the place of legitimate arguments.
It just sounds like you wanna be right but you don't want to have to do the actual hard work of determining the truth lol. Sounds about right for YouTube comments.
@TheNickeldude I was ready to listen to you til your ego had to trip and act like your the YouTube saint at the end. Yea bro I can guarantee if you break someone’s kneck while choking them, you had every intention of doing that damage. Do you know how hard it is to break a human kneck? Cause it sounds like you just wanna sound smart for the YouTube comments.
it was him first, then Savannah, you'd realise. he's a human too, he's not going to cry for the girl the minute after realising he's going to jail for the rest of his life i don't imply he's a good man, but that part isn't showing inhumanity
@Jordan Hughes psychopaths are much more rare than most people think they are, at least a pure psychopath. Psychopaths are usually not the person that shows zero emotion. Psychopaths tend to be more intelligent and use a false emotional response to manipulate the people around them. They study people to determine what kind of emotional display is best to use in a given situation. They may not feel some of these emotions to the same extent "normal" people do, but they understand it. The lack of shared emotional experiences alienates them from potential mates and develops a sense of superiority over others, especially women. This causes them to see women as objects, transactional beings to be exploited. It dehumanizes them and makes him much more willing to hurt or abandon them. When people see someone being defensive and aggressive with others, and their reputation is of violence and rule breaking, they may have psychopathic qualities, but are more sociopathic. Fights, drugs, crime, aggression, alcohol, relationship difficulties tend to be sociopath. Reserved, calculating, manipulative, secretive, controlling, disgust, anger below the surface, tend to be closer to a psychopath. Don't worry, if you a reserved and manipulative it doesn't mean you are a psychopath.
@Just Some Kitten With a Gun yeah its supper sad. Look at what happened with Pam hupp. She murdered her friend 7 days after getting on her will. The husband was convicted because his alibi was too good.
Get into the interrogation room and don't say a word. Meditate. Close your eyes and drown everyone out. If you can't drown them out, immediately say "Lawyer" then shut up
@RGGNC also people have been held in custody FOR YEARS despite not confessing because they weren’t able to make bail. There’s cases of people who died awaiting trial or eventually killed themselves
Detective: "How long did you know Savannah?" Lee: "The details of my life are quite inconsequential." Detective: "Please answer the question." Lee: "Very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Some times he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy, the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical, summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds, pretty standard really. At the age of 12 I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen, a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum, it's breathtaking, I suggest you try it."
This is fantastic! Absolutely hysterical on a very well-read level. I love all of the references! You either majored in History, English Lit., or both. You’re probably of British lineage, if you don’t live on one of the British Isles presently; or, like my dad, you’re a full-blown Anglophile. You love (and are quite good at it yourself) the dry wit of John Cleese. I’d entertain the idea that you may participate in Renaissance Fairs, but that would ruin my image of you in my mind. You’re definitely male, a bit of a perfectionist…I need to give this more thought. I’ve had a smirk (?) on my face since I read this - picture the Mona Lisa “smile.” This is brilliant. I hope you’re a Writer, and are well paid for it!
@TheKushisback Oh noooo. I knew it was too good to be true; no one is that clever, witty, and perchance! my soulmate. Serves me right for not having seen Austin Powers.
If my mom ever get's accused of murder, she's screwed. They'll think she's guilty regardless because she ALWAYS gives long drawn out explanations with a completely unnecessary amount of detail. lol.
I’m in this post and i don’t like it 😂😂😂😂 my mom says that to me so the time! “Tess get to the point i don’t need all the details” but then she’ll ask questions she would have had the answer to if she didn’t tell me to fast forward lol
@B33st1ng Well, lets hope so. Lol It seems my mom isn't the only rambler. I love the hell out of that woman but she is basically incapable of shutting up.
I love when people take their time to talk. I've been told to "get to the point" by a 'friend' who has an attention span of a cricket when I talked like 2 sentences. Makes me want to never tell them anything again.
My mum is guilty of long drawn out explaination's too. Also, she will start a conversation nd have long pauses in her sentences cos she "thinking"! Annoying, cos I just like people to get to the point lol
Wanna get all info out there so no one can say I changed my story if I leave out a stupid detail that I think would not matter but find out that it's really important.
I feel bad for my mom bc I tell her all the time ma whats the most important part of your story. I'll ask her a few times and every time she shares something else lol, but I think that's just an adverse effect of being very passionate when you speak, you forget the point if your story
I'm that mom too! May I ask? How was her childhood? I ask because I NEVER was able to explain myself as I was told to keep quiet so when I was able to finally speak freely....I would be very detailed and yes drawn out because I wanted to be heard and understood. I also am ADHD so I talk a lot when I explain things.... I always warn people please be patient with me. Telling me to get to the point just shuts me down and upsets me.....not fair to not let me speak. So some people are just hardwired to be overly expressive due to life's circumstances so afford them the respect to speak.
OMG! That's exactly how Ricky's mom is...and I'm Ricky's mom! I hope to hell NO ONE ever suspects me in a crime that JCS analyzes...my yammering on and on ALONE would throw me in prison.
Lmfaooo yes I can relate. That sounds exactly like my mom. She does this all the time whenever anyone asks her a question. She gets a little upset if you say get to the point or Mom you already told me this story 20 times. It's like she just needs to tell every detail. 🤣🤣
My boyfriends like this! He has ADD. I can’t tell you how many times he says “long story short” when he’s telling you a story that is in fact not short 😂
I was thinking the same thing about myself! I kind of OVER explain when I'm asked a question. My thought process is that I assume follow up questions will.comes up so I try to pre-answer them before they are asked so i just have to give one answer not multiple.
My kids understand your plight. They say to me tmi....too much information. Lol. But more kindly they think it's from me being an innocent. Lol. If only they knew. Ahaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Vanessa Benefico sane! This is a big fear of mine. I have a personally rule that if I ever have to talk to police I will ask for a lawyer from the very beginning for this exact reason. And cause I’ve seen way to many things about wrongful conviction based on shotty interrogation and I’m gonna do everything to keep that from happening.
Isn't that most women? If a guy goes out for milk, his response to where he was at will simply be, "I went out to get some milk." The woman's response to that exact same scenario and innocent question will begin the night before and project at least a week into the future with only a 50-50 chance of ever even mentioning the milk, i.e., "Tune in next week when the little woman finally reveals where she went and what she was doing for the past 20 mins?!?"
@Tessie Deselich agreed! Let me tell you now so I don't have to go back later. Been telling things to my mom all my life, she hasn't changed. I know where this is going
Yeah but she probably does it with confidence because shes just trying to tell you about her day like most mothers bless her lol I think if they're good enough at their job they will recognise this. Its like the lying thing not everyone feels under pressure and can lie very easily it's why they cant use like detectors in court as evidence if a person convinces themselves of a lie or are just fecking iron gutted that nothing bothers them
Lmao i used to always tell my ex to stop giving to much info even about things that are true. Makes it come off more honest. Even if other person isn't trying to observe you that hard, their intuition will pick up on it. Anyone else who is like this just practice giving quick short answers when people ask you questions. I've been in customer service for 10 years and I naturally use this to pick up when someone's BSing me or not.
@Dana Don't you fret , if it ever comes to that , she will be in shock and probably will do just the opposite ...unless she actually commited the murder that is....
My mom comes over. I ask, "Are you hungry?" Her response: "Well, I haven't had much to eat today. I had a small bowl of cereal at about 8:00, then I had a banana for lunch. Oh I also had a glass of juice. I was thinking about making a sandwich because a banana's not much of a lunch, but I never did. I also have some leftover salad in the fridge but that didn't really sound very good today. I did have some chips a couple of hours ago though. So I guess I should be hungry by now, but I usually don't eat dinner until 7:00 so this would be a little early. Oh wait, I just remembered, Carla called me earlier and I was snacking on walnuts while I was talking to her. That's probably why I only had a banana for lunch. Also I ............................. "
My mother would say I'm guilty because I didn't clean my room...and messy people belong in jail...after getting praise praise from family members about how strong she was she'd keep telling herself that I belonged jail...making the story get from messy to broken outhouse whenever she felt threatened
I do the same. it's an OCD thing. I'm always afraid that if I don't go into extensive detail, people won't understand what I'm tryna say. not that they're stupid, I'm just obsessive. it's annoying as hell.
I’m the exact same, and I’d be screwed. I’ve talked myself into so many bad situations, and only talked myself out of them because the people I’m talking to aren’t detectives LOL
Me too. One cousin of mine (she is very gentle and people in my country are very nonconfrontational) begged me, when I started explained something for her, to not tell her a long story. I was shocked but soon recognise it was true. I can't for the life of me just give a plain answer. I will make a historical introduction at least. Hauhauhaua.
My mum too and me to a lesser extent. The other day Mum was telling me how she cleaned up a bird my brother's cat killed - she told me that it was an empty potato chip/crisp packet that she put it in. But maybe it would only have been considered unnecessary detail if she told me what flavour chips...
100% me! I give unnecessary details, put story's in story's and somehow add unnecessary private personal information storys answering questions that could have just been about the weather. I'd me getting loooocked upp.
I told my mom to never be a witness to a murder because both the prosecutor and defense will blow their brains out trying to get a direct answer out of her.
same like i open my mouth and just ramble. its kinda bad bc at the end everyone's just like "bro we wanted to know if ur free on Saturday, not about ur pumpkin named Jack" and then i get all sad 😔
@Phoenix DaVida for sure Phoenix so do I on both counts. Learning to cut through the noise in your head and keeping in mind the actual question you’re answering is key. I always take a second to think of the basic points of my answer, recognise what doesn’t need to be said and only say the things that matter. Once you’ve done it for a while the ADD super quick thoughts actually help you go through this process pretty much instantly
@ZILLAAH707 I'm a year after you commented but I ingested marijuana and had a funny thought. I like shitty dad jokes so bear with me, but one might say your husband has the....... gift of Gab! LOL I'll show myself out.
You have a foreign mom huh 😩😩 I be so mad when my I’m explains her entire life story just to ask for a bank transfer of her own money sis they don’t need to know how you take your coffee
I'm the same way. I'll start talking about one thing and take a hundred different turns and tell like 10 separate stories before circling back to answer the original question lol. When I go to tell my dad a story he always jokes and says "hold on let me get my coffee and get comfy".
Damn....we must be sisters then. There can't be 2 of them! No one will ever live long enough for my mom to finish a totally unnecessary story that only requires a "yes" or "no" .
yeah this is a problem i have with this channel, he always assumes everyone responds the same way if they're guilty or innocent. he just picks obvious guilty cases to build confirmation bias
@Richard Smoker Well, he didnt come up with that. He just broke down one thing cops look for to tell if you’re lying about something. The problem is that reading/interpreting body language, facial expressions, & speech patterns, for the purpose of deception detection, is not an exact science. For example, it is true that people often over-embellish stories with unnecessary detail when they are lying but as illustrated by this comment thread, some people are just that way all the time. This is why a good cop tries to get to know the suspect prior to interrogating them. And its also why you can’t reliably hang your hat on one single behavior, body language cue, facial expression, or speech pattern to detect deception. One sign isnt enough to be confident the person is lying. But if they do that AND they take like pauses as if they are making things up as they go AND they forgot the details about what they previously told you when asked to repeat their story AND they look away uncomfortably when recounting something (etc)- now it is getting more likely they are lying. Someone might exhibit 1 or 2 signs of deception and it may not mean they are lying; perhaps thats just a quirk when it comes to their communication style. But when you see 4, 5, 6 (or more) signs, then you have good reason to be suspicious
My mother is exactly the same. She babbles without context to such an extent that she would probably be only the second person on this channel to be found not guilty on the grounds of insanity.
Oh no 😩 I have autism and adhd so I explain everything in vivid detail and I talk a lot. I better not ever be in the wrong place and become a suspect or I'll be screwed lol
I'm curious about the experience the interrogators have with psychology. Do they have a certified psychologist in all these interrogations? Nobody is the same.
This is one of my main concerns. Pretty sure she'll say more than the murderer themselves, I always tell my mom about this cuz we never when she'll be helpful and be called a suspect
Many women are completely illogical in conversations. They bring up new people, sometimes with a totally new subject and a new situation, and refer to the new characters of the brand new topic as "they" or "she," as if the listener can read their mind and magically know about a different person than the ongoing subject we were talking about. All WITH NO explanation. They act as if they had NOT introduced new characters in the current story about "they" and "she." It's completely baffling! I call them out on it all the time.
Nah they know what they are doing. When I had detectives talk to me about a close person to me who died, with I was living with, I have adhd so I'm terrible with that but eventually it's painfully obvious when someone is innocent or guilty. That shit sucked. Being treated guilty until they find out what happened, who was there. But it's their job and I get it.
I’m the same. The lady at the grocery asking how is my day because it’s her job and me “oh therapy session is in... well it’s been a long day and ya know teenagers and how they are and then ya got bills.........”
I don’t that talking too much is automatically guarantees you being accused. I feel like it’s can just raise initial suspicion a bit, but if what you say does make sense and don’t contradict your alibi you should be fine
So do I lol. People get pissed at me for it. Even in texts or messages on messenger, I type out a book if someone asks me something like "How's your day goin?" 😂
Same here lol. I have learned from these videos that apparently I talk like I'm guilty of something. He mentioned that it can be due to seeking approval, which that is certainly true, or just constant fear of everything due to trauma
here in CN foreign students are not allowed to work, and i was working in a part time job, and one day in the morning i got a phone call from the police, he asked me to go to the police station and find him there, i did that immediately, there was a translator too, they questioned me for 2 hours, and then they took all my belongings even my shoes, they took blood sample, hair sample, they took my finger prints with an electronic device and after that they put my hand into some kind of black ink and made me press on a paper, then they took me to jail where i stayed about 4 hours, there was a bucket of black water, so i knew i was gonna was my hands in it and i did. and after that they took me into a small room which was like a court room, walls was covered with a soft spongy thing which was green color, there was a chair in the middle they made me sit there, and there was a computer on the table next to the door, this time there was 2 officers and the translator, there was a camera, they were recording it, they asked me the same questions, i was charged with 10k yuan/rmb and then they let me go. it was literally the worst day of my life. i was getting ready for my last year in the university i was so worried that it would affect my study. luckily it didn't. because there have been students got deported because of the same reason and other stupid reasons. anyway i have finally graduated last month and i am going back home in two weeks. so i know how i was acting in a situation which wasn't that serious and in a situation like that i would have a heart attack from the moment they asked me "what happened to your neck?"
Update: Lee Rodarte was sentenced to 40 years (minus credit for time already served) after pleading guilty to second-degree murder. The charges of tampering with evidence and abusing a dead body were dropped in the plea deal.
The motive for this murder was admitted to in the interrogation by Lee himself. In many workplaces, it is against company policy for managers to be involved with subordinates. He says this in the beginning of the interrogation.
@Mark Feagans I know that was said, but that’s definitely not a clear statement of motive. I’m sure he could have killed her because he didn’t want to lose his restaurant job (?), but he was also lying through his teeth at that point. When he brought that up, he was still denying it.
@Harry Knackers there is always a chance of some crazy stuff going down at trial, like key evidence being deemed inadmissible or some other loophole, it saves a lot of time and resources and brings the chance of them getting off to zero to make a plea like this. Sometimes they just make a deal so the killers will tell them where they put the body, so the family can have a burial as well.
@Harry Knackers yeah bring back public hangings and I think a lot of folks will think twice before committing cold blooded murder. If the moral compass isn’t enough you’ve got to scare the shit out of some people.
@justin snider But places that have eliminated capital punishment do not have higher murder rates than places that do. And historically, punishments were much harsher than they are today (public flogging, public execution even for nonviolent crimes) and yet crime was even higher in the past than it is today.
Capital punishment doesn't deter murder, the only justification for it is, in my opinion, the moral justification that people who take the life of another deserve to have their life taken from them.
@A. Velderrain crime was higher in the past for many reasons and i doubt the removal off capitol punishment had much if anything to do with murder rates dropping. Life in prison is a pretty good deterrent for most people, but not all.
@justin snider I actually do believe that the less frequent use of capital punishment, and certainly its use more privately, did much to bring down the rate of murder. People do not commit crimes because they feel like the punishment is light (in fact, people who commit crimes are not trying to be punished at all if possible), but because they believe that there is nothing morally wrong with their actions.
If one believes that a crime such as murder is immoral, they will be reluctant to commit that crime, regardless of its penalty. But if they believe that murder is morally acceptable, they will not be so hesitant to murder even if the punishment is strict.
When executions are performed frequently and publicly, the value of human life is diminished, and people are therefore more likely to see nothing wrong with taking it.
@justin snider lol yeah cuz making sentences harsher stopped people back in the day from doing crimes. If anything, people commit less crimes now than they did then
@Coltafanan Studios yes, but is that due to removing capitol punishment? There are many factors that have changed from the past that contribute to less crimes.
@Ephin Restaurant job? Are you serious? You think someone would kill to defend that job? I’m 99% sure she didn’t want to date him for being on drugs and killed her. Seems like u could use all these videos 💀
@Alex Lopez it may have been something else certainly, who knows. Assuming that it definitely wasn’t the threat of losing his job is precluding his irrationality.
Savannah deserved so, so much better. She left a big impact on our community and is missed dearly by those who were close to her. I did not know her personally but we shared many of the same friends. Watching this play out was heartbreaking, we were all so scared for her and confused.
you changed the title from "The case of Lee Rodarte" to "The last person seen with Savannah." Whatever it is the reason this change was made, it's amazing to feel you alive. Thank you for everything. True Crime youtube isn't the same without you <3 we hope you are okay.
Crazy to think that this channel draws so much views without flashy titles or attractive thumbnails to boost clickbait. It really comes to show the quality of its content. Please keep making these, no matter what YouTube thinks. I make the commitment to join your Patreon if you have one, you truly deserve a huge audience and much more. Keep up the good work!
@Jonathan Pluto not that anyone knows of. If you look at the community tan on their page. There is a brief explanation for why they don’t post anymore.
That last part was obviously an afterthought. It's so disgusting that a lawyer could look at this video and that's the first thing they think. Yeah, lets delay the police investigation on a guilty person. I'm not saying everyone should talk to the police without a lawyer but this dude definitely should.
always invoke your right to a lawyer. Even and especially when you're innocent,(see Central Park 5 case). Cops lie. They can lie and they will lie to get whatever they need to place the blame for a crime. INVOKE YOUR RIGHT TO A LAWYER! ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE INNOCENT! But lmao if you're guilty, don't think you can handle it without a lawyer.
Althought I love these videos so much, it makes me worried for murderers who watch them. They understand the tactics of interrogation now and we won't be able to incriminate them
@Penetrator X you coud say smth incriminating without even knowing and if they have no further clues they coud put you as a main suspect. i know that if you did nothing wrong you shoudnt worry but its beter to call a lawyer just as a precaution
Penetrator X no matter what the police may try and make you think, they aren't your friend, unfortunately. Keeping quiet is your right, and use it. There are good cops out there, but it's their job to make you talk and incriminate yourself, leading to an easier case later on. Doesn't matter if it be murder or petit theft etc, if you're arrested keep quiet and lawyer up. Use the limited rights given to you
Literally.... these people obviously are guilty and deserve to be convicted, but why are they so stupid. Even if I was innocent I would ask for a lawyer
Youd think people would know to NOT talk at all ask for lawyer in ANY investigation not just murder. 🙄 People always assume they can talk their way out, you CANT and WONT.
lol, first don't talk without a lawyer, and then you go "um yeah and maybe like try not to kill anyone if you can help it" you're on the side of the criminal here
@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ no, seriously, don't talk to cops unless you have your lawyer with you. You have no idea how an investigation will play out, it might lead the cops right back to you and then your talking will bite you in the ass. Especially if you have a higher possibility for committing the crime, in the eyes of the cops.
But if you do kill people, make sure you can afford a really fuckin' good lawyer. Doesn't matter how damning the evidence, some people have walked away with their freedom intact. Example - OJ Simpson.
I feel like maybe you should flip those sentences around. Don’t kill people, also don’t talk without your lawyer. But like yeah, especially don’t kill people
Evan Gelos serious question could he have gotten away scot free if he never admitted or talked? Sounds like the investigation only found out the truth after his admittance
CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ hahahha not true man the state pins things on innocent people like clock work its a busniess always use a lawyer innocent or guilty.
When he is answering their first question, not only is he running his mouth on and on and on but he also is already putting the victim on trial. He wants them to know that the loss of the likes of Savannah is not a very great loss. "She used drugs a lot" and because he is such a good guy "he took a step back" because of course being a good guy he could not afford to get too close to a drug user. Now isn't that special? So she used drugs, you POS. Did she ever kill anyone?
I must confess that the logic of some people just totally escapes me. "I don't want my place of employment to know about the affair I was having with Savannah because that might get me fired. Wonder what it will do to my career path if I murder her instead?" It may come out later in the video because I am not quite finished with it yet but I wonder if Savannah was pregnant and that's what the terrible argument was about. If she has a baby and DNA says he is the father, it sort of shoots down any attempt on his part to say she was lying and that they weren't actually having an affair.
If he had had a lawyer he might have walked cause that so called "proof" they had, that she was in his car, was the grainiest surveillance video I've ever seen.
Never talk without a lawyer even when you know you’re not guilty, any number of things could implicate you for something you didn’t do, this not only will ruin your life, but it means they won’t catch the right guy.
IndigoStarAz I doubt it, you can still clearly see she doesn’t leave the car regardless of graininess. So the proof you mentioned has nothing to do with her being in the car, but the fact that she doesn’t leave the car. I mean let’s say he says she got out at another location, it’s a shopping area, all police need to do is get more footage, to show that’s a lie. Or look at the current footage for any vehicle he would describe. I don’t think he would have walked either way, I think all this did was make it open and shut.
Understandable, but damn he would need a lawyer From God to get out of the grave he put himself in by saying "She Got Out" without knowing there was video proof...
@peace or power I know every lawyer in the World would not have saved hem from the grave he dug. With the proof and his confession their would be no way out of this; best case he pleads guilty & hopefully gets a lesser sentence.
Glad you are concerned that potential murderers could get in to trouble
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James Pilcher2020-08-12 10:40:05 (edited 2020-08-12 10:40:43 )
@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ that isn't all you have to do. The police are perfectly capable of being lazy stupid and corrupt. You have to protect yourself against that. Being innocent is no guarantee of being found so in court
Never wantonly kill anyone, then you won't be facing interrogation by homicide detectives for long! So you save the cost of a lawyer. Lawyering up causes investigators to ramp up their efforts even more! Yes, sometimes innocent people can look guilty by lawyering up but it might minimize the process so the police can then move on and devote their efforts toward the actual perpetrators much sooner.
Ryan Ramsey2020-08-16 01:26:43 (edited 2020-08-16 01:29:02 )
@Andrea Moore Because police ARE allowed to lie during any interrogation. Sometimes people will agree to things they did not do just to end the interrogation. Not every person suspected or interrogated is guilty. You can be a suspect and questioned while still being innocent. Know your RIGHTS and do not throw away your constitutional right to avoid self-incrimination. This guy is guilty but we are all innocent until proven guilty by a jury of our peers in a court of law.
Only thing that ever makes a case a slam dunk is a confession, but this dude was fucked. That tape was devastating evidence, with or without a body. He's in Florida where they can and will take a murder case to a jury without a body
If you can't answer simple questions without a lawyer present there is something seriously wrong with you. and if the first words out of your mouth are 'I want a lawyer' when all they're doing is asking simple questions you shouldn't have any issue with if you're innocent, you may as well be wearing a tshirt that says 'i'm guilty,! I did it! prosecute me!'
You want a wrongful conviction? Cause thats how you get one
@Tony Good question. They definately had some evidence. I think it would have been a longer, more drawn-out case for sure. Moral of the story. Don't get into drugs. Don't kill people. Don't be an asshole. Don't have an ego/pride. Walk away. Can you imagine how many crimes are commited just because of pride or ego? This dude could have gotten lots of other girls and/or drugs if he wanted to. But now someone's dead, and he's probablly going to jail for a long time.
My friend was under arrest for a fight that occurred at his job. Anyhow, he asked for a lawyer and was repeatedly told no. So what do you do at that point?
asking for a lawyer slows down the process of incriminating the killer. that's why detectives always try to wear the suspect out when they have strong evidence, so that he's so caught up in the interview he doesn't ask for one. So in this case the family of the victim has to be very grateful that he didn't ask for a lawyer. They could have never had the closure and justice they needed.
To me this is just one more reason why I believe people are very ignorant. How does someone this dumb even begin to think they will get away with murder?🤨😅
In fact, nobody's rooting for him at all. There are a lot of people who reflexively root against cops in interrogations, probably because they are leftists and leftists reflexively root against the cops. But it's also because they have an overdeveloped sense that justice comes from making it as hard as possible to convict people.
@Penetrator X If you're not guilty but you're the prime suspect for a crime, cops will and have fabricated evidence, forced confessions of things people didn't do, and lie in order to lock someone up for the crime. It's not about your rights, it's about giving yourself the best chance of not spending time in prison.
@Telios Abraxas "An eye for an eye" means not to over punish. Your punishments endanger men, women and children by over punishing. I hope you are not a Judge.
@Louis E I was wondering, can the police do that if he didn’t actually have an outstanding warrant? Like say they suspect that I killed somebody or they have me on video or whatever and they want to bring me in and talk to me, but I don’t have any outstanding warrants, can they just make one up in order to arrest me? Like you said, if it were me, alarm bells would be going off like crazy because I know I don’t have any speeding or parking tickets I didn’t pay, or public intoxication or whatever.
@GuriMon It really doesn’t matter. I watched one that involved a policewoman. She wasn’t a detective, but she at least worked with criminals and understood how they lie and whatnot. She got caught big time. She fell for every one of the detective’s tricks. It was the Stephanie Lazarus case. You can find the full interview on YouTube. It’s over an hour long. My point is that you might think you can beat these professional interrogators, but even a professional policewoman just got destroyed in the interview.
Danny H It doesn’t matter though, he should have asked for a lawyer. I know the guise was as a witness, but he could just frame it as bad things happen to good people all the time, and this just helps avoid that. He could have even said as much for my protection as it is for yours, haha.
@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ nah the innocent project has already shown not to talk without a lawyer (or at all really). They use everything you say or don't say and work backwards to convict you whether you did it or not..
Always get a lawyer, especially if you're innocent. Watch the confession tapes on Ntflx. Innocent ppl confess to crimes they didn't commit all the time.
From a Tom Segura comedy special: "Lawyer up. You can’t handle that shit. Everybody’s like, “I’m gonna talk to the cops and straighten this whole thing out.” You’re gonna do 25 to life. Have fun with that, man."
@dvergur criminal defense attorneys jobs arent to decide a client's guilt or innocence. Their job is to fight for their client and give them what they paid for.
The lawyer that defends murderer is a part of the crime . when you murder some one the lawyer will not help you in that ....every crime scene has incriminating evidences no matter how good you are
Evan Gelos exactly! That’s the most bullshit attempt cops use. Even good ones. I have no issue cooperating with good officers, but the second I hear some variation of that: “if you have nothing to hide, you have no reason not to let me search your vehicle” for instance. My immediate reply is always, “i have nothing to hide so you have no reason to search”
THERE IS a good video about this titled: DON'T TALK TO POLICE made by a prosecutors' prosecutor and backed by police investigators. Never talk to police even if you are innocent of of a crime. Police is not your friend. Tons of innocent people have gone to prison because they couldn't shut their trap.
NEVER talk even with a lawyer present. A lawyer who asks you to talk in an interrogation like this one is not a good lawyer. If they have evidence of you committing a crime. let them take you to court and send you to prison if that's what will happen. You don't want to go to prison for murder because you simply sent a text telling your girlfriend to "GO DIE BEATCH!" the night before. Just that phrase alone, some statements from some friends testifying that you said once: "I HOPE THE BEATCH DIES AND LEAVES ME ALONE", coupled with no alibi (you were sleeping or robbing somebody's house) and some stiupid and emotional s... you told investigators like "sometimes I wanted to kill her, but I would've never done that" is enough to send you to prison for the rest of your life.
NEVER TALK TO POLICE. In reality the job of most investigators is to find "anybody" to blame for the crime. They do it all the time. You can report an abduction and end up being the prime suspect, using your life savings to defend yourself. I'm telling you, unless a crime has been committed against a child, the world can go to hell to me. Use your brain at all times. Police is not your friend, unless you are the victim. Keep calling 911
More like don't kill people and never talk without your lawyer. Honestly if I didn't commit a crime I would tell them you can take my DNA,fingerprints and my clothing but other than that I have nothing to say until my lawyer is right here. I'm not sitting there for hours on end being asked the same questions over and over just worded differently. They aren't going to have the opportunity to twist my words into what they claim is a confession. Some,not all cops get tunnel vision and try to make the evidence fit the crime.
dvergur the fact of the matter is things are not always as they seem. There is no such thing as 100% proving anything. You’re innocent until proven guilty. Lawyers are not unethical because they defend these type of people. They are ethical because they are suppose to set aside bias and argue the best for their client. This is one way to ensure some level of fairness in the judicial system. However I understand your reservation.
well if you want the police on your side then from my understanding they find it super annoying when people do this, especially if it's urgent. but hey thats, just my opinion, my personal opinion. Thanks for reading!
Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition dude are you "punk rock in the wrong hands"? i see you on every skramz/emo/hc video ever, what are the odds i see you here😂😂
@whistle yup true story my cousin is facing 2nd degree murder charges for someone that actually last seen alive by the merced county sheriff's and the prosecutor and the "new" judge that was assigned to the trial due to the first judge that was gonna throw out the case due to the fact that the Google info from GPS was manipulated by the prosecutor to look like my cousin was in the vicinity of her body but more accurate GPS subpoenaed by his defense show he was never actually near the body then the coroner couldn't even determine how she died or if it was even a homicide ( she was found in a canal after 1 year almost ) so they get the new judge they tacked on a new charge of using a explosive device to destroy evidence just purely on speculation and no actual evidence. So my cousin has been incarcerated for 3 years now fighting the charges.
It’s funny how you have to include that last part in order to make sense of your comment. I seen one similar on the Christopher Watts case and felt disgusted by it. Whether you like it or not the morale of these videos are to teach students who are learning criminal justice in matters to learn how humans react under pressure and how to use that against them in the court of law. The fact that you have to state that a lawyer being present will solve the situation, indicates you have no respect for the family of the victim, and now I view you as someone who has no respect for humanity in general. The only reason you had the lawyer part included in your response, means that if you have a good lawyer you can get away with anything. Not true. I hope your crimes catch up to you sir.
Never talk to the police. Innocent or not, talking to them can only hurt you. Your statements are for potential use AGAINST you, not for your benefit. Lots of innocent people have been put in jail because they believed their innocence would protect them.
CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ I mean, not really. Sometimes the wrong people are arrested. Even if you innocent you should still get a lawyer before you talk to the police.
I am glad he spoke without a lawyer. People like him need to not be defended. Lock him up and throw the keys away. Animals should not be living among us freely!
Even if your are innocent as all hell, don't talk to police without a lawyer. That's what cops tell their kids. Even on a traffic stop. Give name and address only.
Talking without your lawyer, even if you're innocent, is idiotic. You could accidentally implicate yourself, misspeak, or misremember something, and put yourself in hot water. You could lose weeks or more of work, lose your job, miss rent or bills, etc etc.
@Danny H That's irrelevant. The reason to call an attorney is simply because the police are asking him questions. It doesn't matter if he was arrested or not. NEVER talk to the police without a lawyer no matter how innocent you are. There is no benefit to doing such a risky thing.
@America Marie False. You always need a lawyer when talking to the police. It doesn't matter how innocent you are when you are one wrong word or misremembering of an event away from being the main suspect or put in prison. There is nothing wrong or suspicious about lawyering up right away. Stop trying to get innocent people arrested just so you have an easier time.
@BA_300_AAC Almost 40...you're nearing the point. Stay strong for the next several years, if somehow you manage to make it to almost 50 with the same response....Well then, you sir/madam, are a special breed. Thou shalt be commended.
the police are allowed to trick and/or lie during an investigation. it's all fair to catch a murderer. the suspect told the previous investigator she had left his car. they had footage she didn't exit his car and called him back under false pretenses. when the previous interrogator returned to question him, that was then he needed to ask for a lawyer. the only crying was for his own life.
My first thought when he was arrested was why didn't he demand a lawyer? My second thought, after a few minutes of the interrogation, was that there's probably a correlation between stupidity and committing crimes. Then the boiling anger set in. How dare he think that it was a good idea to kill that girl? Why is it that some people think that it's OK for them to kill someone?
@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ I've heard different versions of this. Don't hurt anyone and treat everyone as you would like to be treated is one that sticks in my mind.
We see these dangerous people on this channel and on the TV news, but most of the people I've met over the last 70 or so years have been fine and honourable.
@Louis E Tbh unless we've been in such a situation none of us know what we would do or be like. The emotional stress of the situation must be unimaginable.
@The Bringer of Salt There are too many damn people, true enough...But murderers are useless: even the most conscientious serial killer is never going to make a dent in the population figures. A rapidly mutating virus, which spreads easily, doesn't bring on symptoms straight away or is often asymptomatic, and is fatal in incrementally more cases, that might work. Especially if the fear of infection leads to fewer and fewer occasions of men and women having sex.
@America Marie why would lawyering up be a mistake? And all police and prosecutors want is to shut a case and they will stick it to the person they have their best chance to win against be it guilty or not, there are countless examples of police confusing innocent ppl. Getting a lawyer is the best thing an innocent person can do, a guilty person had the time to think of an alibi and how to distance himself from the crime, on an innocent person the police will keep steering them into getting close to the crime, and with the self confidence of being innocent ppl will walk right into their traps
@UncleEarl97 lawyering up doesn't make the cops go after you harder, quiet the contrary, nor does it make you look guilty in anyway. No judge or jury can use the fact that you asked for a lawyer or invoked the 5th amendment against you. And friends who are cops have told me that they loose any hope of getting a confession/incriminatory statement as soon as a suspect asks for a lawyer
ok so the smart thing to do if you are guilty or innocent would be to ask for a lawyer as soon as you hear “you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law, you have the right to an attorney, if you cannot afford an attorney one will be appointed to you at no charge. Do you understand these rights? Yes I understand and no I do not want to speak without my lawyer. Innocent people think they will look guilty if they ask for an attorney and guilty people think they look innocent if they speak without their lawyer. I don’t care I want my attorney either way!
Never talk. Period. With or without a lawyer. My first advice to any client is not open your mouth until your lawyer gets to know the evidence they have against you.
@Mike Schwinn I am actually a lawyer, with 26 years experience as a defense attorney......also as public defender (BTW public defenders do NOT work for the government). I guess you can tell I do know for a fact what I am talking about
@Mike Schwinn I get your point, and I am sorry for your experience and the time served....but to be clear.....being paid by the government does not mean at all that the public defender does work for or in the side of the government. Our deontological obligation is to defend the interest of the client, with the maximum effort possible, regardless of who pays his/her fees. Here in Spain, and in most of Europe, there is no specific body of public defenders like you guys have in the US.....instead of that, we have a different system: It is a voluntary and kind of a social work that us private lawyers do, we get paid by our bar association (who gets its funds from the state), and they pay us only around 5% or 10% of the usual fees of a private client. As I said, we take it as a social work, because it is not worthy in financial terms. But anyway, as I said in my previous comment, my first advice to any private or public detainee/client is to not speak with the police, not until his lawyer (me) gets to see the evidence they have against him......You have the right to do that, here, and in the USA. Police ofiicers often do the trick/technique of giving you a false impression that cooperation with them might help you out of trouble......it is not true. The judge/court is the one who decides that. Take care man !!!!
Do the crime then be a man and take the time. A lawyer would say “say nothing at all, not one word” and then what?? A killer has better chances for going back on the streets and kill again.. Hell no.
Would u give the advice of never talk without your lawyer if that was your little girl that he he jus broke her neck and killed her in his car? I bet your advice would change if it was Your Child Murdered! Yea great advice!! A young girl is dead before her time...
@Brainglow_LightBright I hope and pray you don’t give that advice to someone who has murdered someone in your family and I pray that never happens! LOL that
Love how JCS includes “probably not the best advertisement for the bonefish grill that the chefs are peeling their scabs off at work” 🤣 deadpan delivery is gold
@Sansel City that’s very true. I was halfway through the video when I wrote the comment and she still didn’t talk but she was instrumental in the last half. Both of them are top notch interrogators.
@Sansel City Not really. Their dynamic didn't work as well. They're lucky this guy wasn't a hard crack. The female interrogator tried the emotional route but it wasn't the best approach.
@M’n’ Conquer I'm actually wrong so ignore my comment. There's a dude on that show in Tulsa with the exact same hair, look and wardrobe down to the bow tie. It's not him though
@Phil McClenaghan It got him to confess though so I would say it was helpful. Interrogators use a variety of techniques to get confessions, some weirder than others
I just seen the part with the pleading from the female interrogator… that is genuinely the single most amazing piece of police work I’ve ever seen. They’ve seen the footage, they know there was a struggle. They’re playing ping pong with his emotions…no doubt her pleading would have put him back to that night “please, lee, please” his whole demeanour changed after that. Game, set and match. Don’t get me wrong clearly they both are a great team and it’s rehearsed to a T but look at the way she goes fully into it. Masterclass.
@Phil McClenaghan Not unprofessional at all, just an interrogation technique you probably haven’t witnessed before. It’s all an act at the end of the day, she probably doesn’t even have a kid. Interrogators spend a lot of time deliberating and putting together strategies, she didn’t just pull it out of her ass. There’s a lot of research that gets put into this, and many techniques that are used are based upon information acquired about the suspect and their personality
The female detectives technique is flawless. Her pleading and begging and saying his name would probably mirror the pleas of Savannah while he was attacking her, refreshing the memory in his mind.
I feel like she showed her cards a little too quick… and gave out too many details that could’ve allowed him to rethink part of his story. She got the job done though. RIP Savannah 😔
@J Dude, shut up. She's not an entertainer, nor the mans friend. She's a detective doing her job. Being "annoying" is a stupid thing to judge her on, especially since they got what they were after.
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James Flaherty2022-04-09 23:12:53 (edited 2022-04-09 23:14:25 )
@J If a detective isn't annoying they're not doing their job properly.. Going over small irrelevent details, overthinking, asking to many questions, or in this case - begging for confession. Police work eh..
@Crawver Police shouting at you for a confession is the wrong way for a confession. an innocent subject could be scared into giving a wrongful confession or give wrong facts out of stress
@James Flaherty the chick literally started crying at one point. I'm not saying she's like the worst person in the world I'm saying that her professionalism is off. Jeeze, and I can find whoever I want annoying its not a crime lol
@J I completely agree with you, actually the female detective is ruining the effort of her colleague who is making subtle progress while she just go "PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, I'M BEGGING YOU" lol, that's stupid, and the worst is that she never at any point made any friendly connections with the suspect so her saying "i'm begging you" is ridiculous and reveal that they are in desperate need of a confession.
@XXMARIOXX1998 this was my exact thought. She seems new & like someone else stated, her style of interrogation is annoying! IDGAF what any other smart azz has to say about it. It's my opinion, & apparently others agree. 💯
Yessss what got me upset is that guys feel more confident and comfortable talking with females and every time she almost had him the guy detective keeps stoping her midway or trying to take control of the situation. Don't kno if it was a tryna be in control situation . But she woulda had him more quicker
@BIGDAWG767 I was thinking that too, these comments are full of men who prefer to watch a certain kind of video with a certain type of male interviewer, but the reality is she didn’t hamper it, he was listening to her, and he responded to the duo and especially her by answering her so often when she asked a question compared to his response to the man. I think she was doing great and perhaps could have done it faster a few times too.
@J At 31:30 her line of questioning is what finally corners him so he begins answering in ways that aren’t just “I don’t know”. You can dislike her voice and call her annoying, but at the end of the day she did an inarguably great job and was a key part in gaining the confession so they could get him.
u dont realize he slipped up because of the female interrogator. she softened him by crying and begging. it's a tactic that women use not only for the purpose of getting someone to admit something, but used to get other things out of males, and it is even exploited. however, in this case, it was used very well in getting him to admit what he did.
For any viewers curious how the trial went -- "A Florida man has been sentenced to 40 years in prison for the murder of missing woman Savannah Gold in 2017. Lee Rodarte Jr., 31, received his sentence on Thursday, nearly three years after he was charged with killing Gold, with whom he worked at a Bonefish Grill in Mandarin"
@VictoriaRainShine He claimed self defense because it was his last chance to get away with it. He gave up too much information to be able to claim he didn't kill her. So he decided to attempt to claim that he killed her out of self defense in the heat of the moment.
@Grape Juice I believe he won the lottery, she tried to carjack him using a rabid bat as a weapon and he was forced to burn her body to exorcise demons after the bat double crossed her. We will never know for sure but I’m putting all my eggs in that basket
Like the movie 'Liar Liar' with Jim Carey. His secretary has a client on the phone seeking his legal advice after another arrest,- the guy is a multiple offender. Cary's character picks up the phone and says "STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!" ..and hangs up. Pure gold.
She could have had him fired meeto style. Enough to make some guys snap. The vindictive nature of todays cancel culture society sure brings out the demon in people.
@Alex P yeah, I think it's a sympathetic response to the accused. After all, even though the cops are different, their role is the same. The accused typically shows more personality.
Did we ever find out why he did it though? It can't be just because she was going to tell everyone they hooked up and thus losing his job, he could have always found another job?
The real parts come during that time when he was left alone. This here "Could have just told her to leave you(Lee) alone" tells me that despite having done what he has, he did it for some reason which he though was good enough to take her's life. Like someone who commits suicide, Lee probably got provoked to that point that he didn't see the reason for her to leave taking into account how much suffering he might have if she lives... But then he forgot the suffering he's going to endure for taking her life...
Life is interesting that, although reasoning can only work depending on the nature of the actions, sometimes we invite people that will turn us into beings we never though we were... at the end of the day, no reason is valid enough to kill anybody!
@Stocking It’s a normal thought and happens daily for a lot of people. Usually in passing or in jest, not really taken seriously but acknowledged as an option. A poor option, but an option. And people can kill if they didn’t want to, because the circumstances around the killing make it seem like a necessity. Wanting to for personal gratification and wanting to because it’s the only option you can see solving a particular problem are two different psychologies around it and the types of people who carry out such actions.
I love how he cries that he's gonna get killed in jail. Maybe...just maybe..you shouldn't have killed somebody else. I'm glad he realizes how bad the situation he put himself in is. I'm glad he feels such anguish. I /hope/ all the things he's telling himself are true and he's sad not just because he got caught, but because he realizes he took a life, so that nobody else has to suffer at his hands. He needs to feel the pain he caused his victim and her family.
Agreed. I definately saw immediate remorse at the end when he said "I'm so sorry Savannah". Which was good to see considering so many maniacs don't even show remorse. He really does realised he fucked up bad. He must pay the penalty however and I'm very happy with a 40 year sentence. Best Wishes
Yeah ngl I hate all the comments that are being made such as "this guy's such a narcissist he's not sorry cause he killed her he's sorry cause he got caught and thinks crying will make people feel sorry for him." There's literally no reason to believe any of that. To me, he's clearly in a room by himself about to get royally screwed on life by his own fault, and he's realizing how dumb it was for him to make the decision to kill her for...whatever reason caused him to do it at the time. Then he's realizing how it was all for no reason and that he killed someone he didn't even have any real problems with from the sound of it ("The fuck were you thinking man? You're a real piece of shit. Savannah was nice to you...") and how awful it was for him to do that and now he has to live with it for the rest of his life ("you were supposed to fucking make something of your life" or whatever it was he said there).
Some of these people can't even watch the video and get what's going on at the end even when the narrator is telling us in plain language what's going on and what the underlying psychology of the situation is. All because they think they know sooo much with their degree from Cereal Box University lol.
@Jos Fielden Perhaps, but the way he was talking to himself with nobody else around made it sound like it was actually sinking in that he royally screwed up and took an innocent life. Like I said, I can only hope what he's saying is true because nobody but him really knows. He still needs to be punished 100%, but it would be good if he did feel remorse because he deserves to for what he did, and it would mean he may act like a decent human being in the future.
@The Vibe Zone " Remorse is a distressing emotion experienced by an individual who regrets actions which they have done in the past that they deem to be shameful, hurtful, or wrong. Remorse is closely allied to guilt and self-directed resentment"
To me he displayed the total meaning of the word remorse. Still deserves to be punished for life however. You don't see many maniacs even display remorse which is really upsetting to me
@Music Life Yeah I guess but you can clearly see and hear he is only thinking of himself. " I was gonna make something of my life" "last time I get to wear a chef's jacket" etc. He didn't once say anything about Savannah or the life he took from her other than crocodile tears and "I'm sorry". Then he gets right back onto talking about himself.
@The Vibe Zone He literally says " I'm so sorry Savannah". But yeah can't be bothered talking about this anymore. There is much bigger fish to fry in this chaotic world :)
Kind of difficult when they have video evidence of him with her never leaving her car.. compounded by the fact he lied about the evidence. Circumstantial evidence still works you know
@Therealstinkgod It sounds like there was some evidence at his house, though, which is a location they clearly would have searched even if he requested a lawyer.
@Jonathan Gill true. I commented that before I finished the video. Bc of their relationship that the other employees leaked to the cops he was going to be closely looked at as a suspect no matter how well he did in the interrogation.
@Therealstinkgod I'm unsure of this, but I thought you still need to answer the detectives questions even if you have a lawyer. They mostly just overview and sustain unnecessary questions
@Not Leoso yeah idk how the legal system works tbh. Just have always read and heard, “keep your mouth shut when cops ask questions, just say you want a lawyer”
@Not Leoso you dont have to answer shit, They tell you dont speak without a lawyer because cops will ask u questions not involving the case but will help support their case IF you answer them. You can literality beat a murder case by not opening your mouth at all. The cops have to PROVE you committed a crime, u talking can slowly bring out evidence to support their allegations against you
Lee: "According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think."
From the footage, they gathered that the suspect had either brown, dark blonde, maroon, or bright red hair and was anywhere from 5'2" to 6'3" and weighed about 100-400 lbs.
@Miguel Garcia The suspect was likely a primate, specifically a great ape, but we cannot rule out the possibility of a bipedal alligator, a large dog, a small bear a bald eagle wearing a cape, or five koalas stacked on top of each other.
@Ocean Waves i was also thinking they probably made it look worse because they seem to want to keep a lot of things in this case hidden from public view
yeah wtf it should be mandatory to have better detailed cameras. cheap ass property owners and local governments smh. think about how many crimes would be solved without all this hassle if there was just better cameras everywhere.
How did he not know there was a camera watching him there when he was the manager... He should know there's footage of the whole thing his car her getting into the car the struggle getting out slashing a tire??? I don't really understand why he did that but most importantly his alibi of her getting into a truck and riding off is lies right at the beginning of the interrogation he screwed himself
If he would have just gotten a lawyer from the beginning . And just planned his actions a little better, he might have been able to get away with murder. Which is scary to think about.
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I watch interrogations/true crime videos here on YT daily. When I discovered JCS a year ago I was legitimately sad when I had finished all of the content available here. So much so that I’ve gone back and re-watched several, this one included.
I’m so bummed that he is no longer posting. I’ve heard YT is preventing him from doing so? Not sure. If anyone has any insight let me know.
You’re the best at what you do, JCS! U have a huge fan base and deserve every single one of us. Thank you for the thorough, intriguing content!
From my experience living in the heart of south beach, fl for 6 months I’ve noticed the sun has some unexpected influence or erratic changes in behavior in most hpeople.. especially people who are homeless. They are a different breed of “crazy”. It’s literally like when you hear the sound over and over enough it makes you go insane.. yeah well these people become bonkers not like the usual homeless, sick, or drug addicted that I’ve seen in New York but fueled with an uncontrollable rage that I suspect is caused from the side effects of prolonged HEAT exposure but what do I know this is just my theory. What do you guys think?
@Paul Hunter i think drugs and mental illness are the leading causes of homelessness. But Ive never seen a Florida psycho homeless person so I dunno. I live in ATL, amd they do seem to be more agitated in the summer and more aggressive. But chill all other times of year
@Ctruth lyfe FOIA is “Freedom of Information Act.” Whereby individuals not involved in a case can request the evidence used. Hence the police footage seen here.
@Paul Hunter Hi PDK, I'm from Australia (Victoria), but I have spent sometime in NT (Northern Territory). And I agree, the sun/heat/humidity has something to do with people going off the rails. In the northern part of Australia, they call it "Going Troppo" , or "Gone Troppo". Which means Tropical Madness.
It's a slang term, but (as guessed) means the heat has gone to your head.
I'm not doctor, but I understand that having extended periods of sun/heat/humidity hitting my head, day in day out. And lowering the levels of fluid in my brain, "MAY" effect someone's judgement from time to time. Mix and drugs, alcohol and mental illness, and you have a cocktail of craziness.
We can call it "Florida Man", or "Going Troppo" or any other term. I think it pretty much means the something.
Fun fact: I got heat stroke in my first week in Darwin. I was vomiting for days.
Florida is not for faint of heart, or people who expect to be respected. You gotta earn it down here, but when you do, we're alright. Been here my whole life.
I think a lot wonky stuff happens everywhere, not just Florida. I think it feels like we only hear about these stories in Florida specifically and not other places because of differing laws. My friend who lives in Florida told me about it once. If I remember correctly, Florida's laws are a lot less strict so a lot of stories from Florida get revealed. Where as in other places, the stories are kept more on the down low because the laws are more strict. But yeah I think that is why it feels like more crazy shit happens in Florida when compared to anywhere else but I don't really think that is the case. I don't remember which laws differ specifically but that is pretty much the jist of it.
They were romantically involved on and off for 8 months, a regular guy who, as far as we can possibly tell, never killed anyone before in almost 30 years of life, could have done it a thousand times between when he first met her, and the day he killed her. What was it that made him commit such a horrible crime in that dagon where they couldn't even identify the exact fatal injury. It baffles me. You must think you know someone so well after 8 months of being more than friends, and then that happens. I mean what the hell?
I have been interrogated before for something I did not do, and ill tell you that straight away the detective that conducted the interrogation was extremely hostile and it made me see him as a threat, was the first and only time i got interrogated. Also one of the most uncomfortable situations ive ever been in.
Yeah it's all well and good when they're right...Until you realize they do the exact same routines for people later proven innocent.
Sadly, at the end of the day, their job is to get a prosecution no matter what. Just like it's a defense lawyer's job to defend someone, even if they know they did it.
Can you get a lawyer before being interrogted ? If so, even if it was just an accusation, it would be better to be safe than sorry. I don't think every investigator is capable enough
At 34:35 I think he actually says “My mom’s gonna die while I’m in jail,” lamenting on how he won’t be able to be there for her during her final moments for when she inevitably passes on way before Lee does. I can’t imagine the devastation that realization brings, but the dude has already made his bed.
so he could be eligible for parole? starting when? after how many actual served years? somehow mutilation of a body after murdering it makes it a little clearer that he should stay in prison 4 ever. dontchathink?
@Patrick Wilson he is a bad person but bad people are not born overnight unless they are sheer sociopaths. It is not unreasonable to feel pity for another human being with hindsight into their actions. The idiot really could have just left her alone but now he will rot, it is not a happy ending for anyone really.
@Nolan Booblackie Not true at all. Especially with convicted murderers. Some felons get granted parole and can serve maybe %80 of there sentence. But lots of facts go into this, what the state laws are, how was the person while serving time, did they goto school? Stay out of trouble? But to say that they only serve half the time is not true. It’s also depends on if they have time served before sentencing.
@Nolan Booblackie Canada is 10x worse. Look up Bernardo and Karla. I'll let you look into the evil they committed but suffice it to say the two of them are widely considered perhaps the most cold blooded killers in Canada's recorded history. Karla served less than 10 years and can be seen these days hanging around grammar schools...and she is allowed to.
@Corrie Thomson literally what the guy wrote is the definition of being wise, saying someone is too young to understand is far from being condescending, don't try to sound smart if your not. Just read what the guy wrote.
@Eh Boy It's pretty unreasonable to feel pity for someone who committed such a heinous crime against an innocent girl for no other reason than self preservation. What is there to feel pity for? A murderer getting sentenced for committing a murder. How sad...
@hampa "don't try to sound smart if your not" He says while making one of the most ironic grammar mistakes ever. If you're gonna be condescending, at least make sure you don't make yourself sound stupid in the process. Just sayin'.
@OliveBranch you're devoid of humanity then. Even the most vile nazis could be humanized in certain aspects otherwise people wouldn't make up conspiracy theories to exonerate them. It is human to find empathy for others even if they aren't good people. I'm not saying I feel bad I just understand how a drug abusing and mentally ill man can do this and how much hurt his family and everyone else around him must have felt. Going to jail doesn't bring back the girl, it just gives him time to think, learn, and earn forgiveness
@Eh Boy Humanizing monsters is devoid of humanity. You're misconstruing what the word empathy, humanity, and pity means. Making excuses and twisting reality in an attempt to see somebody as better or more deserving of compassion than they really are is not empathy. That's not what pity is. And that's not a sign of humanity. That's an active decision that you're making, in spite of the reality of the situation proving otherwise. Frankly, your opinions on this are more immoral than anything.
@Eh Boy People make up excuses to exonerate Nazis because they're Nazi sympathizers. They exonerate them because of the atrocities they committed, not in spite of them. Which, again, proves my point. That's sick. It's not human or normal to see Nazis and think "Oh, sure he did some bad things, but I'm sure he was a great brother." Not only is that insensitive and naive, but it's borderline sociopathic depending on the context.
@OliveBranch no human is a monster. It makes the actions of people who made mistakes as if they were not to blame, that they are just beyond morality, they are monsters. To dehumanize is the greatest disservice you can do yourself.
@OliveBranch the nazis were people. Bad people who did bad things, but people don't sympathize with them because they are just racist, of course they are, but they also see their own humanity and aspirations in these things. Just like with this man, I want to be a cook too, but I wouldn't kill someone to keep a job at a casual grill. He made a horrible and vile mistake, but he is not a monster. He is still human and that's why he goes to court instead of being summarily shot like in countries where they do dehumanize people, like chile's dehumanizing of leftists or Saudi Arabia's dehumanizing of lgbtq individuals. Not one person is a monster, we are all just complicated animals.
@Eh Boy Yeah, no. Doing something immoral is literally the definition of going beyond morality. A monster is "an inhumanly cruel or wicked person". The only way you couldn't consider this person a monster is if you believe that these actions are within the scope of what can be considered human or exhibiting humanity. And at that point, you're the one doing humans the disservice. It's not a grand moral gesture to ignore the existence of immorality. It just makes you seem dense.
@Eh Boy If you sympathize with Nazis, you are no better than a Nazi. Empathy and sympathy is relative. You aren't making a point by refusing to draw a line in the sand, all you're doing is making it very clear that you don't know or care to understand the severity of the actions you're talking about. Normal human behavior has distinctions based on a set of morals. If your whole philosophical conclusion is that there is no distinction, then you have no real set of morals. You're giving the same emapthy to a 30 year old violent Nazi that you would give to a 10 year old Jewish boy about to be sent to the slaughter. At that point, you're being a bad person.
@OliveBranch No. You completely misconstrued my words. I'm not giving the same empathy, I'm saying I see them all as human beings regardless of their crimes, because it was humans who committed these atrocities, not monsters. What of our own governments atrocities? This is the human condition that we must struggle to overcome, which is why it's important that we look at how those men got to the point where they sent millions to death, lest it repeat as it currently does around the world. Humans are not monsters, but they can do Horrifying things
@Eh Boy Biologically, yes, obviously they're human beings. But morally, they are monsters. By definition. Pitying them or giving them empathy is not the morally superior thing to do by any means. It's the exact opposite.
@OliveBranch they can be evil, but to be a monster too is to say they were a unique exception, so are all the perpetrators of violence infact monsters? Are the child soldiers in the Congo or Sudan monsters or wronged youth? What about soldiers in afghanistan who call in an airstrike on a Hospital? All these actions are morally irrepressible, yes, however these people must still be afforded the thought of being another person because how else will we investigate and analyze the totality of their actions?
@Eh Boy A child soldier being manipulated isn't the same thing as a grown man making a decision to murder innocent people. Morality is not a new or confusing concept. Like I said, empathy is relative and is meant to be assigned with distinction. It makes absolutely zero sense for you to claim that I'm "devoid of humanity" for asserting that a murderer going to jail for committing murder doesn't deserve pity. Yet, when someone commits a crime that was actually devoid of humanity, you claim that it's cruel to call them a monster, which literally means devoid of humanity. So, let me get this straight: It's wrong for others to question the humanity of murderers, but it's not wrong for you to question the humanity of the people holding those murderers to account. Makes perfect sense.
@Eh Boy Lol in what way am I getting upset. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy in your moral grandstanding. If you're going to attempt to argue for a philosophical ideal, at least make sure you yourself are actually following it first.
I mean, I'm not denying that he is a monster, but apart from other murderers I've seen on this channel, I gotta say that you could see he had at least some emotions, mainly in the end. He was also lowkey smart and tried to hide it well. If it wasn't the videotape, I think he would have gotten out clean, which of course, is good that he didn't.
@OliveBranch this guy in the video is definitely not a monster, he made a mistake out of anger and fear and was probably building a shit ton of stress for a while before this. Look at his pictures, you can tell he’s not the type. (If you can’t, well I guess you lack being able to read people) there’s real monsters out there that you most likely defend because of your close mindedness.
Wow some of y'all a really trippin. Why does everybody always want to fight or find a reason to argue with somebody? Wouldn't we all be happier we were all friendly?
@Wind Ummm yes??? He committed a violent murder against a young girl. If he really felt remorse, he would be more worried about giving her family closure and not dragging out a months long trial than he would be about getting consequences for his actions. The fuck?
@OliveBranch so you, if given the chance to get away with a life sentence would instead choose to rot in prison with a life sentence instead over a mistake?
Before you answer, NO you wouldn’t. Your human you will act like any other human would in this situation.
@Abby Normal 40 years + time served.. happened in 2017. so give or take 2.5-3 years in prison.. he's still getting over 35 years. Still shit, but better than most considering case went fast. I don't see anything about parole in articles though..
@Abby Normal @Abby Normal I think that you should be imprisoned forever for "dontchathink". However, indeed he should be thrown under the jail and forgotten about!
In another video on this channel a Mom kills 2 kids and gets 10 years with a chance of probation and he gets 40 years? Can anyone explain to me how these sentences happen? Not saying he doesn't deserve it but how are some people's sentences longer for less murderers
@Patrick Wilson I know that’s the thing I was thinking. He fucking killed someone over his reputation at a goddamn Bonefish Grill. You can lose a job and get another one. I have had 18 jobs in 5 years. I never killed someone because I got the heat from my manager. Goddamn.
@Lou Orlando yes because so many people have been killed by a hundred slaps from a 90lb woman. Another reason this is sickening is that it doesn’t explain the door opening multiple times and being slammed closed again. That’s what sits in my stomach. It’s no longer self defense if she was trying to leave. Multiple times.
What a waste of life.This guy is a chef and have potential of brighter future.He could be super succeful and respected person.Drugs ruin life,make you not yourself.I was once drugs user but jesus save my life
@Abby Normal the victims family usually follow the sentence closely, then step in when they think he's up for parole, for them it's a life sentence....
@PanicTheManic They are called colloquialisms (i used spellcheck for this word, everyone needs a little help at times). So arrest me. If you are truly the Spelling Police, I will need to see your credentials.
He expressed sorrow and apologised to Savannah multiple times.. It was hard watching this man cry afterwards. Just imagine the mental anguish from realising what you've done..
@OliveBranch OliveBranch, you are about 90% correct in your back and forth with EhBoy, and the other 10% goes to him for indeed grasping the complexity of the human mind and how otherwise decent human beings do indeed commit awful vile murders sometimes. This is how that Muslim father of the son who was killed/robbed while delivering a pizza made the decision to forgive his son’s assailant during trial. He wasn’t attempting to strictly humanize his son’s murderer for the sake of it, but rather he really did see him as his family saw him: a young man who committed a deadly crime but doesn’t cease to be a son to his mother, something his actual mother thanked the victim’s father for.. For miraculously seeing through what many would rightfully experience as angersoaked grief, or vice versa.
Also, sociopolitical manipulation played a huge part in Nazis thinking the way they did. To insinuate that psychology plays no part in Nazism is a fallacy. That’s not excusing them, that’s just reality. Even in the face of Operation Barbarossa, Lithuanian civilians and volunteers, who already hated Soviet occupation, were led to believe the Jews were the reason for this and that’s how something like the Kaunas Pogrom comes to be.. Pure sociopolitical and racial manipulation (look up Führerprinzip for reference).. In the overwhelming majority though, yes, there was a complete and animalistic disregard for human life, regardless of politics or manipulation, that could never be measured in any sense of morality. The Einsatzgruppen and especially the Dirlewanger Brigade prove this.
Human psychology really is extremely complicated (any and all Tolstoy stories expound that to a perfect tee) but moral compasses should be well intact in most human beings, and yes, that would indeed make him monstrous for what he did, which was cruelly take a life. Though, he unquestionably didn’t cease to be a son or brother in that moment, and to those close to him (i.e. his family/friends), he may very well have been a good guy, but as countless murderers have proven time and time again, the duality and even ‘quadrality’ of the human psyche stops things from always being a simple unmovable polarity of good and bad.
@Jonathan Whitaker he’ll most likely get out someday he got 40 years but got credit for the time he’s already served so really like 36 more year of so and he’ll be around 68 and most likely still Alive
@Lone W nope, just believes different moral ideas. If you think humans are monsters then how do you explain our consistent destruction of self and others? Humans can be violent, that does not make them monsters, just bad people
@Eh BoyWhy are you getting so offended? You went from saying, "nope, just believes different moral ideas." To "He is just less educated lmao." You were right the first time about it being different views. But just cause someone doesnt agree with you does not mean they are less educated. Everyone has different definitions and views of a monster or evil. Next time dont get mad.
40 years means he'll be free someday. What he did to Savannah's body after he killed her and the pain her family endured because of that alone, we'll maybe he'll drop dead of a heart attack before he's released. Maybe he'll get killed.
@Patrick Wilson You're right, but from the emotion and remorse he displayed while alone in the interrogation room indicates that he might be capable of being rehabilitated and able to rejoin society one day. He certainly does not seem to be an emotionless killer with no remorse, as it does not appear that he planned to kill her initially, rather that he did so in the heat of passion, and then tried to cover his tracks. He is far less a monster than some of the killers incarcerated, and thus I think the 40 years is an apt sentence.
@OliveBranch if you can only empathize with ppl who are easy to empathize with, that's not real empathy. If you can't show compassion for the most heinous person and still see him as a human, then you aren't a compassionate person. If that's your goal fine, but don't call ppl immoral for having basic empathy and compassion.
@Ryan ONeal I never said he's not human, sweetie. Biologically, he is. But if you think it's normal to empathize with someone who would murder, mutilate, and assault an innocent girl, then you don't know what empathy is. Lol you need to reorganize your definition of the word.
@AQW andrew So having a family just magically makes you not a monster? Serial killers have families, dummy. Rapists, child molesters, they all have families. That means literally nothing.
@Abby Normal In Florida you are only eligible for parole after serving 85%, so in this case, about 34 years. Or a little over 30 more, considering the time he spent in jail.
Strange one serves a significantly reduced portion of one's sentence, even in Florida. And there's no reason to imagine those laws won't change at all (further liberalize) over the next 40 years. My prediction is this guy serves approximately 22 to 26.
Keep his job ??? The Food Network was going to showcase Lee on a new series and here was this little miss innocent threatening to ruin his career if he didn't stay being her boyfriend !!!!!!
@MrFairworld I feel sorry for him too... 40 years is a long time. I think given that he confessed and the footage following the confession, that is grounds for a shorter sentence. Someone who feels remorse for killing isn't the same as some of the others shown on this channel. Killers aren't monsters. They're human beings that made one of the most severe mistakes a human being can make. A monster is someone who doesn't identify it as a mistake. With a sentence something like 15-20 years, he could serve his time, get out, and still have life left to do something good in the world. Instead, we have someone who has done one of the worst things a human being can do and who actually does have a conscience unable to use that unique perspective to do something worthwhile. I think a 40 year sentence is better applied to someone who is likely to be dangerous on an ongoing basis. I don't think this guy is that.
@Eh Boy This is why you should always try to control over your emotions. This kid just gor caught up in the moment and let his anger take over. He didnt seem like a bad guy. He just let his anger overtake him.....
If he was a pyscho, he wouldnt have confessed , he wouldnt even care what the dets were saying.
Now his life in prison begins. Hopefully he looks at someone the wrong way and ends up getting beat bad or he turns out being a punk and getting his commissary stolen
@Eh Boy For what it's worth, I agree with you. He did a terrible thing, but every day half the population experiences elevated anger at an unjust degree, towards another person, while in traffic. Going "too far" is something we are all surprisingly capable of, I believe. You can even see it in the condemnation by "moral" people, that want to see some heinous punishment upon this guy. I can't help but feel bad for him when he breaks down crying.To me he seemed terrified of his future, but also clearly thinking about what he had done.
@MrFairworld people act like a murder is a complete alien. Often times, they are. But this particular did something rare. He regrets it, he is sorry to Savannah, his mom, his bright future. He deserves 40 years, but there clearly is SOME form of humanity in him. Therefore there is something to pity, even in a tiny way
@Patrick Wilson saying he feels sorry for him doesn't me he thinks he deserves less, he deserves a long prison sentence. Duh. Feeling a little pity for the murderer when he shows a bit of humanity (rare) is not a crazy or bad thing.
Abby Normal not necessarily. The murder seems like it was an accident—it definitely doesn’t seem premeditated. The subsequent “mutilation” was his clumsy attempt to dispose of the body, which is rational behavior if you don’t want to get caught.
Selfish, yes. Reprehensible, yes. But I would not call it reason enough to lock him up forever. Disposing of the body doesn’t necessarily indicate anything more than fear and desire to avoid consequences. It’s not an indication of being more of a danger to society.
@Eh Boy i think youre right i've talked to people who work with really horrible criminals and they all said that you can hate their actions/crimes etc. but this shouldnt give you the right to hate the person who did it.
@Gary West it’s 2nd degree murder. The sentence for that is 30-life imprisonment. So, no. Not “only 40 years”? Murders happen every year. If we gave them all over 40 years, our systems would be crowded and the prison expenditure would get more and more expensive.
@PTSD The fact that your name is literally PTSD while you're making excuses for a man this heinous. Can't write irony better than that. I'm so sorry that simply stating "murdering someone is wrong" is this upsetting to you, but I'm also not sorry and I don't care. Learn to spell, educate yourself, get a life.
@OliveBranch it's a mistake + trying to cover up the mistake. That's all it is. None of that shit takes premeditaion and none of it suggests anything except he didn't wanna go to jail for 40 years so he tried to cover it up. He did a horrible job at it, and his crime was pathetic and incredibly stupid, but that doesn't mean he didn't make a mistake.
Takes a very sick, sadistic person to take joy in the fact that a prisoner will be homosexuality raped. A decent human being would be outraged that people are being sentenced to be homosexuality raped for 40 years in his own country.
@OliveBranch it's funny I just read some of the other comments all the people saying the same thing I did "you must be very young", you should internalize that, as when you have several people telling you the same thing about yourself, it's a pretty good indication that what they are saying is possibly true, in this case, the fact that you sound like a very sheltered 15 year old girl. It probably obvious to so many people because of how you let this child like sense of "good" and "bad" influence your understanding of the meaning of words like empathy and humanity. That and how you say literally to refer to a name, a name is a word, and words are, of course, literal, so it's redundant and unnecessary to say "your name is literally____", of course it is. That's all, just wanted to make sure you were getting all of this, I know it's a lot to come at you all at once but when you get older you'll see it's not really difficult to understand, and you'll feel like an idiot.
@Stormer248 And you're basing what happened and her character off of what her murderer said happened after showing he is an unreliable liar throughout this entire video? Seems this hit a little too close to home for you 🥴
The moment around 23:20 is something I remember an undercover agent had to do in the mafia. He got called out for being a cop so he broke the guy's jaw because being outraged was the response of someone who was being wrongly accused. That convinced the made guy who was there that it wasn't true and he was a real gangster not connected to law enforcement.
I love how this channel goes through the meticulous details the investigators choreograph into the interrogations. They really work to put people at their weakest state of mind.
What’s really peculiar about this is how little concrete information is actually known about it in the same vein as say, the Chris Watts case. Did he slash her tire as they were arguing, or was it after she was killed, as stated in this video?
She most likely wasn’t high the way Lee probably was. So why did they decide the conversation needed to be had inside the car, in the backseats no less?
Was he really able to kill her with his bare hands in less than a minute? Or did she pass out and was killed in another point in time? That question I think is important because although Lee admitted to snapping her neck, the vid stated the autopsy report wasn’t able to confirm an exact cause of death.
Idk it’s just really irksome how up in the air a lot of the finer details of this case are, for no reason.
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seeing a grown man cry in a corner talking to himself and how he’s sorry, makes me think. i don’t think he’s sorry for hurting savannah at all. i think he’s sorry he got caught.
I don't think this is a case of "how quickly your life can change" for him, but for Savanah. He was always a piece of shit who had the capability to kill someone.
There is a short period of time at the end of the interrogation footage, the point where Lee fully understands the harm he did and extent of his wrongdoing. That's the Lee that I feel sorry for. Everything leading up to it and after it are the results of his own choices and failures in life, and a poor girl is gone because of it.
After sitting for 45 minutes or so the suspects mind had a lot of time to process what was going on so when is was asked a personal question about the victim his mind began to overconscious of his guilt so from thinking for so long he probably had an in depth idea of what he would say and when the victim was the first thing he heard about it threw his whole premade scenario off and he became aware that he may be caught so he was laying the foundation for his own justification for this crime by attending to create a unsavory Image of the victim and make himself seem to be a unfortunate party involved. People who lie about crimes are not going to fit the same characteristics as everyone else. There are key measures but each case is individual. Such as one who is nervous may not be guilty of the crime but feel guilty elsewhere in life and being put in the position of guilt and confronted by an athorty figure one may display guilt as a naural feeling from a alternate source of guilt. The more brazen and sure a guilty person is the more they will believe they can escape prosocution so they will always make solid firm evidence of their innocence even if they begin to feel they will be caught. If they feel they will get caught they give grounds for reasonable guilt and distort the decency of the victims character to create a negative image to encourage a unfavorable opinion of the victim.
Lee: Now this is a story all about how my life got flipped turned upside down and I’d like to take a minute just sit right there I’ll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air
Youtube won like 5 months ago. Well actually i think they lost as they banned a hreat channel that has over 300 million total views. Youtube sucks sometimes.
Update for anyone interested: Rodarte received a 40-year prison sentence in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to second-degree murder, according to the State Attorney's Office.
@policeMarcus the solution is to take the lives of people who have taken the lives of others. The fact you lumped what this person did with just any "crime" is insane
@Mech The fact that I answered the sentence "Scums can't re-offend if they're dead." and not comparing what Lee did to every other crime makes your point invalid.
@Mech And that "solution" of yours doesn't seem to work so great does it? USA reoffending rate: 76.6% Norway reoffending rate: 20%
Why is there a difference? Because Norway focuses on rehabilitation and restorative justice (prepare the inmate to be released, make prison similiar to the outside life with comfortable rooms, free outdoor space and large windows to the outside) while USA focuses on punishment and makes up sentences based on public relations about a certain convic).
And don't give me the "it's too expensive" bullshit, because USA has the worlds biggest economy (+ with the largest debt too lmao) whilst Norway is on 48th place in the world.
@Mech i hear him, he makes a good point, US system obviously doesnt work too well. I dont agree that this kid should see the light of day for the contradictory answer the guy said himself, that US prisons offer no rehabilitation. So yea, dont let him out. However, if they changed the system, even if it caused one person to be rehabbed, that would save lives and cost less for taxpayers.
@Solaire of Astora About 5 years in a Norwegian prison would be enough to rehabilitate him, prepare him, and make him ready for a new life. Meanwhile in the USA you give them 30+ years and what is the outcome? 76.6% re-offending rate, a failing economy, mental illness and abusive guards. No wonder so many tries to escape.
@Mike Potter It's called a comparison between a failing and succesful system, and if you can't see people are listening to what I have to say. And yes, someone technically did ask by claiming there was one solution, but I showed them another more succesful one. And that beast of yours could become a world champion against crime one day with the right treatment.
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Did he say why he did it? The way he was talking in the end made it look like it was crime of passion, or like he was on drugs or something, and getting rid of the body was more of a panic thing. Or did he stick with the self defense reason?
@policeMarcus Obviously not. I may be wrong but it appears that you were advocating for leniency for someone who has been convicted of a violent Murder. In my opinion that is an insult to the family and to the individuals that make up society. It would be unjust and humans have a need for Justice. Only a dysfunctional society does not provide for the need for Justice and Just Desserts.
@policeMarcus Sounds like denial to me, but enjoy your Country you can have it. But I'm sure you will be calling on us when you get invaded. A deluded people are usually content to let others defend them because, you know, that won't happen. I would never set foot in Norway because its illegal to defend your family there. But again, its best to believe one would never need to. Cheers
@policeMarcus Well, it may have been partially his fault. How you react after things go wrong, especially if you have been trained, like most truck drivers are, could make it negligent homicide. But still, no matter what, the sentence is unjust comparatively.
When discussing whether or not this dude got the right sentence, I could care less about the system, Norway’s system, emotion in a trial, or the reoffending rate. Fuck his rehabilitation. Savannah doesn’t get hers, neither should he.
@J K Is it more expensive to keep a criminal in for life or for 10 years? Plus, as stated before, if Norway can cope with the costs then the USA can too. Quit spending so much on the military and the people will get better living standards.
@policeMarcus you’re implying all crime is equal … it is not in my opinion … stealing a loaf of bread compared to murder is way different … so I agree with jay … life for a life …
@They Hold No Quarter I don't imply all crimes are equal, I understand the weight of murder and the barely noticable weight of stealing bread. However, your stay in prison shouldn't have any specific time, there shouldn't be a manual or a minimum or maximum per each crime. It should be based per person how long it takes for them to be rehabilitated, and once that process is done then can they leave. And this isn't a theoretical system, it exists and is much more effective.
One guy on your side on the other hand equaled every crime to death to prevent "re-offendence". I see you guys are running a little desperate.
@policeMarcus I understand what you’re saying … the issue is we are human … the “rehabilitation” of someone varies… too many variables … so how do we know when someone is rehabilitated? Cause humans lie not only with their words but with body language as well… if you give the right answers to the questions on how you feel now and how you’re so sorry “ you’re free” …. It’s too complex brother
@They Hold No Quarter It's not, you both have communications officers and psychologists, there is no lying to them. Wan't proof? Look at Norway, they use this system, and they have very low re-offending rates, proving that they know when someone is rehabilitated and can let them out at that moment. The system isn't based on questions either, you notice on a person if they stay inside a prison on how they behave when they come in and how they behave when they come out. And as already stated, it works, and it is effective.
@policeMarcus you’re not looking at the population of Norway compared to the US (which is way smaller) and you’re not also looking at the fact that Norway spends around 90k to the US 32,000$ per prisoner…. Norway has around 4,000 prisoners compared to 2.2 million (USA)…
I do understand what you’re trying to say and I would agree and say hey let’s do what Norway is doing and see the results!
But your logistics with it working in Norway can’t compare to the USA … the population is astounding compared to Norway
@They Hold No Quarter You're not looking at the fact that the number of prisoners would be reduced if the USA used a restorative justice system as more people would be released according to the new rules. That would also bring down the costs and many facilities could maybe even close due to not needing that high of a capacity anymore.
You can't compare USA's current system with a new one. Plus USA's economy is also astounding if you compare them to Norway.
And what you may have missed is that the United States government is in fact saying "hey let's do what norway does". Because, as also stated before, they have sent multiple advisors and inspectors to Norway to check on how they do it and why they are so successful with their system.
Although I doubt anything will happen due to the arms race with China at the moment, perhaps the USA would change to a more human system in the near future.
@policeMarcus I think we agree with each other and the only thing I disagree with it guilty of murder … id love to try why Norway does … but not with murder … no… also I don’t think it’s possible due to the population difference and also the taxation difference… it’s just not possible … you think the rich in the USA would take those taxes ? They run everything unfortunately….
@policeMarcus strange to say but i agree. you could tell that deep down inside he has good morals, and after 40 years of being punished he should come out a changed man and after that he almost deserves to live his last few years on the outside.
@policeMarcus Ok, thanks for your answer. As to separating paragraphs, you are right. I just get easily swept away especially when I get too much emotionally involved.
I apologise if I sounded too harsh at the beginning. It's not because of Norway system or anything related to USA. It's because I am fed up with the impunity in my own country. So it makes me crave for seeing criminals really paying for their crimes. And here it's not so much about the system but about corruption, laziness and inconcering. Just 2 examples of what I mean:
1. When me and my bf were attacked at our house (a woman holding my throat with her hands and a man who had his knife put next to my bf's stomach) and then our phone stolen, we went to the police station that is just 2 mins away from home. They sent us away saying we should report it on the morning. On the next day we were told to go search for it alone and Inform them if we see some house for 2nd hand items to sell it. When we found it days later (there were also cameras showing them leaving the phone for selling at the house), police told us to buy it from there alone because they don't confiscate items that cost low price. Because we reported the crime, a few days later my bf got ambushed from the back and beaten by the guy who attacked us at home. Police said if he doesn't have witnesses, they can't do anything about it. A year later we received a letter that there won't be a trial because the phone was only partely stolen. It was my 1st time hearing such a noncence and I still believe this was made up and we don't have a law saying that if someone steals from you but don't sell what they stole but give it to a 3d party to sell it, it means it is not fully but partly stollen.
2. The second story is why I stopped reading/watching news from my country. A guy around 25 was at a party under the open sky out of the city. It was organised in fb and he didn't know anyone. Around 2 am he sent a SOS message to his parents with his location and after his phone couldn't be reached out. Police has been informed but they couldn't find him for 2 days. On the 3d day a random guy finds his body around the place he supposed to be and was researched. The man had 8 broken ribs. The police conclusion: it was a suicide 🤷♀️ They claim he must have had climbed a tree in order to hang himself but after the branch has broken under his weight and with the falling his ribs must have broken . The guy who found the body claims there hasn't been any loop around the man's neck or a branch. The explaination from the police - the loop must have became loose during the fall, has pullen out from his neck and got lost with the branch somewhere. There are so so many things like this here. And I am angry and at the same time desperate and feel powerless.
I can continue telling you about brutally attempted murders that are treated as causing "not serious" injuries as a broken spine, broken skull and they literally run a man off 2 times with their car before go out of their vehicle and start beating his head with a pipe. But they were convicted with causing injuries and not a murder attempt.
Or the student who went in the USA embassy for getting a working visa but never got out. His friends waited for him 4 hours before they give up. For some unknown reason the cameras inside stopped working exactly at the moment they supposed to show the boy making his way out of there. It's been years since then and the boy is still missing. Police couldn't do much about it because they don't have right to search the embassy. But they found later a body (remains) nearby of a guy who has been hanged but all of his teeth were broken and missing. The cloths and the shoes weren't the same as the missing boy and it was concluded it is not the same person.
The woman who went to another city to visit her bf was found on the very next day drawned in 20 sm wather. Her bf told that at 2 in the morning she decided to go on a walk alone in the unknown city... It was concluded to be an accident.
Should I even mention what is happening if you try to call ambulance or fire brigade or child protection? I have so many real stories about it as well 😥
I apologise for my long monologue complaining and for my not so good English. I just needed to get this out of my chests. Stay safe all and let's justice be with you 😔❤️
@Nora Wow, that is a very special story and it is an example of what justice and police enforcement shouldn't be.
Sadly however, Russia don't have the best reputation when it comes to those matters. I hope you find a better life elsewhere, you should plan on moving if it were up to me.
I must give it to you, your English is pretty good.
@guy is it better to execute 10 convicted murderers and 1 innocent convict that you later found evidence to clear them for or let 10 convicted murderers serve life in prison and that 1 person gets to live when the truth gets out
@policeMarcus Thank you for your kind words! Only to mention in case what you say about Russia was because you had the impression I am from there - I am from a small country in East Europe called Bulgaria. We have very similar language as Russians. We also were a comunist country. The thing is we were able to survive almost 2 centuries under Byzantines, 5 centuries under Otomans but what really is about to erase us is the corruption of our own people. The impact it has is so huge and the worst cosequence is not even the poverty. It is the change in people.
I'm kidding you not when I tell you I do believe there are whole generations of sociopaths recent years. To explain what I mean (according to the things I have read - I am not a psychologist either) - both psychopaths and sociopaths are incapable or very rarely able to feel empathy towards another live creature. The difference is psychopaths are born this way while sociopaths are created due to the environment they've grown and have lived under. Last decades created a society with wrong morals, no values and no respect. It is sad how you seeing humans all around you but you rarely see humanity. But if it turns out my country may lose the battle with the evil, I still hope that the world won't and the good will win ❤️
@policeMarcus lol It's ok. If a person haven't learned the language it's easy to can't differenciate it from other languages from the same language family. It is hard for me to tell which slavic language belongs to which country, too. Before I started learning Spanish, it was hard to differ it from Portugaise and Italian. Ah... I really can't speak with 2-3 words 😅 I meant it is ok and totally understandable ❤️
@Little Lou First of all, the rehabilitation takes place while they are in prison, and that is the place where it is supposed to take place too. Second of all, if someone is rehabilitated, that means they won't re-offend, and that is the whole point. I think you have no idea what you are talking about as you think being in prison and being rehabilitated are different things and happen in different facilities.
@policeMarcus no, I got plenty. You compare an inconsequential, tiny group of people to the predominant nation on the globe. We are a complex machine that welcomes all races, creeds and faiths. Our prison and punitive system is equally complex. And, in fact quite successful in case the correct person encounters it. We finance complete and sophisticated libraries for the inmates. We finance technical schools for the inmates to study and learn during their incarceration time. There are leaders of faith who dedicate their lives to share with the inmates. Here is the big difference, all of the benefits are voluntary. If a criminal desires to sit and rot, so be it. If an inmate wishes to learn and better his or her self, the chance is there. I hired a man who was in jail. Got him out early. Spent money on him. He is out, working and loves the Lord. Have you reached into your personal pocket and brought an inmate out. Okay then. Ya snide smart ass.
So let me get this straight. While his victim can no longer be alive forever.. gone forever While her family is suffering You think it's okay for him to still be living free Ok
@Mike Potter That's actually an easy and merciful death. 40 years in prison seems worse but it probably was not second degree murder. He got her in a car and took her off seems premeditated because she was risking his position at work. He gives them motivation immediately like an idiot.
@policeMarcus that’s right I’m a patriotic American. Is there a problem with that? Give me a direct answer to my question, have you reached into your snotty pockets and pulled your personal money out to help an inmate? Until you have, you can’t debate on same platform as me. My economics are just fine. I would respond to your other statements if they made sense. Perhaps learn grammar and sentence structure of the people you hate before you criticize them? It makes your argument quite pale.
@policeMarcus it is not even an idea. in some countries is the law. Unfortunately is very difficult of Americans to get it. they are full of fears and have lost (if they ever had) their trust to humans. I mean look their society, it all started with slaves, guns and killings, and it continues till today. i just feel sorry for the one's who will never survive in this wild wild west like the boy on the video.
@policeMarcus honestly I get it too. I don't want the government murdering people on my behalf. An eye for an eye makes us all blind. But, you know, Merica and all in the comments.
@policeMarcus your first comment on this thread says “4 Weeks Ago.” So yeah, it’s been like a month now. I made a comment 3 weeks ago and just revisited today and I see that you’re still going hard.
It's weird the US has sentences that combine to such big lengths, I feel like you either give a smaller one, or life sentence, because what is the differentating factor otherwise? You either go "hey, this guy is possible to rehabilitate" or "nah, let's keep him away as a danger to society, his presence is more dangerous and rehabilitation is too much of a gamble in his case". But 40 years kinda falls in no-mans land, it shouldn't take this long to rehabilitate anyone if rehabilitation is possible, and if it is not, then why not give a life sentence? I think this guy is definitely rehabilitable though, and any rehibilitation is doable in less time than that.
@policeMarcus I understand what you’re saying but I’d say that would only apply to certain crimes. He literally murdered a woman.. and in this case, I think the victims family should have a say in what’s done to him. I have a feeling it still wouldn’t be a slap on the wrist
@Secret ! What race do you hate? Let me guess, anyone not lily white. I bet that's who you hate. "Ahh man hate, hate, hate, hate, hate hate..." - Ice T, The Dave Chappelle Show
@TrashCrab Not sure why this guy is a troll, he stated his opinion just like I have done. People may have called me stupid in this matter but a troll I've never heard. If tonio is a troll I can't imagine what I am according to your idea.
@policeMarcus I have to ask about your stats. You said the reoffending rate in Norway is 20%. Is that strictly for violent offenders (ie rapists, murders, etc)? Or is that the general reoffending rate? Because if 1/5 of violent criminals are released back into the public after only a few years then you would inevitably have a higher population reoffending in relation to population size. Also, that wouldn’t discourage others from committing those violent crimes in the first place knowing their sentences will be light. Idk about you, but that sounds like a frightening place for women to live where rapists and murders only get a slap on the wrist. Makes it worth their while to keep offending. Might I add that I do not believe the US prison system is perfect by any means. But clarifying your stats would be helpful in this discussion.
@K D it helps the victim's loved ones?? how'd you feel if you saw the day the person that killed your child was released from prison? some people who accidentally kill someone in a bar fight or through a car accident get longer sentences than 40 years.
it's stupid imo that they can make deals. Leads to all kinds of unjust sentences in both directions. He shouldn't get a reduced sentence just for pleading guilty. He was going to be found guilty anyway so wtf
@K D An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. That's to black and white of a view, rehabilitation albeit the more expensive and less likely to succeed option should be pursued. If someone killed me I don't think they deserve death everyone should have their chance at redemption.
@policeMarcus rehabilitation should be saved for people who’s crimes don’t cause lives to be taken or ruined. A stolen loaf of bread can always be baked again, but once you kill someone there’s no bringing them back. Do you really think people who can purposely take an innocent person’s life deserve to eventually be able to enjoy theirs again? If so I’m very curious as to why because at that point I hardly think they have any reason to be treated humanely, golden rule and all that. As for the money side of things, if you can prove without a shadow of a doubt that someone is a murderer, you can spend a nice crisp 0 dollars on them for the rest of their prison stay by having them executed rather than rehabilitating them with an apparent 1/5 chance to kill again anyways. It’s a win-win-win-win, the victim gets their revenge, the killer gets their just deserts, the family doesn’t have to feel the torment that comes with seeing someone who caused you so much pain and loss walk free, and there’s an absolutely 0% chance of them reoffending. Now there of course are reasons someone may have to kill, like if they believe their life is in danger, and people also may kill by accident, which doesn’t deserve such a harsh punishment IMO (it still of course does deserve punishment though). It’s the taking of innocent lives because of relatively trivial reasons, like the one in this video, that does not deserve a second chance. Rehabilitation is a good idea however it should be saved for people who deserve a second chance, and I don’t believe the man in this video is entitled to that chance after what he did.
@Mage_wielder if I may ask, how come you believe they don’t deserve death? Assuming someone killed you for no other reason than because it was convenient for them, do you not think that blatant disregard for human life deserves to be reciprocated with disregard for their life? Especially in this example, as he killed someone because of a disagreement that he ultimately could have settled normally, and that would have had a relatively small effect on his life, if any at all.
@policeMarcus Norway has a VERY different demographic. You can't compare a tiny little place with ALL white people to what we have in this massive country full of DIFFERENT races and cultures. To attempt a 1:1 comparison is insanity.
@SOLOMEA QUINN the phrase “I could not care less” does not rule out the possibility of caring at all. For instance, I love you and I care about you. I love and care about you so much that I could not care less. It is not possible for me to care less because I’m so in love with you.
@policeMarcus Dude, in one comment you said the USA has the world's biggest economy, next comment you said USA has a failing economy. Which is it?
Also you say 5 years in a Norwegian prison would be enough to rehabilitate this guy, and later you say that it's a case by case basis and everyone is different and it's up to the experts to work with prisoners and determine when someone is rehabilitated. So....you're an expert on Lee Rodarte even though you've never met him, let alone worked with him towards rehabilitation?
@policeMarcus No my point was you have no idea how long it would take to rehabilitate Lee Rodarte. And murderers in Norway get 21 years, not 5 years lol.
@JAYDEE As I said, my point wasn't either that "all murders get 5 years in norway". But it was what I would deem appropiate, because I don't trust american judgement at all.
@Tyler RubleYou can't see what could go wrong? Well that's good, because often nothing goes wrong. Remember, Norway barely has any re-offendence rate and they rehab murders, so barely nothing goes wrong in fact.
@policeMarcus I just voted for you for president for that brilliant idea, yet you’re still attempting to make your point. Fine, you can be king. If you keep up the brilliance, maybe someday you can be emperor
@policeMarcus What YOU deem appropriate, because you're such an expert with so many decades of experience, unlike actual judges who obviously have no experience and no idea what they're doing. You're more of an expert than judges are, right?
@policeMarcus What do you mean by unrealistic? I agree that there are HUGE problems with the American justice system, the main one is mandatory minimums for certain drug possession crimes, so a person gets sent to prison for years and years because they were a drug addict, when what they really need is treatment, not punishment. But I think people who commit horrendous, vicious, cold-blooded crimes of violence, especially premeditated murder, deserve harsh punishment. It is the state acting on behalf of the victim, who is no longer alive, and it is the state acting in the interest of public safety, and it is the state acting in the interest of justice.
If you murder somebody in cold blood, with no regard for their right to exist, no regard for the endless pain you will cause to their loved ones, no regard for the law or the rights of another person, I think you deserve to be punished harshly. In general I disagree with the death penalty (except in the most extreme cases like war crimes) but I think murder should be punished by long prison sentences, including life in prison in some cases. It is simply an unacceptable act, and is antithetical to a free, open, fair society. Punishment is often the form that justice takes. It is society's way of saying that this act is so cruel that you do not deserve to be part of a free society.
@policeMarcus youre right about this. But The US prison system is for profit and that 40 (less probly with bail) years is equal to probably hundreds of thousands of dollars of labour for pennies on the dollar. In this case though, if my daughter was brutally murdered for no reason by this guy, id be happy to have him rot. Violent murder is where I am okay with death penalty or never see the light of day. In other cases of violence like assault and whatnot, im all for rehabilitation. And I also don't think people should be imprisoned for drugs. Its a touchy subject. I probably would have agreed with you before I had a daughter, but the thought of someone murdering her so violently and senselessly and disposing of her body like its a piece of trash makes me ill and I would happily see her murderer executed and/or made to suffer.
@policeMarcus how long time have you served in Norwegian prisons? And which ones, as they indeed are not the same all over. And how many reoffending murderers are there in America? Here in Norway there are actually some of those. Sexual offenders are reoffending in high numbers, probably due to the short sentences and high focus on reintroducing them back in freedom, where they can find victims. And yes I am Norwegian, and yes I base my knowledge on facts and not governmental propaganda.
@Ken Olsen I've never served in any prisons, and have never claimed to either. I don't quite understand any of those arguments as those are points I've aleady taken up. And why do you ask me the reoffendance rate of murders in america? Couldn't you search that up yourself before posting that comment? I'm not your google.
@policeMarcus no I never claimed that you were my google, my claim is more in the line of this:
Because you have had access to google, and seen the video about a prison in Norway here on YouTube. You try hard to portray yourself as competent. My conclusion after your response is actually just been reinforced by you. So thank you sir. Well done.
Thank you for the update. This people always exaggerate when assuming a sentence time. For 1 murderer that usually doesn't happens. Even though they deserve it.
@policeMarcus I wish America took mental health and psychology more seriously, and even if he was released, his life is over, he doesn’t have much left. If he is released, he’s going on the streets most likely, and he sure as hell isn’t going to be a playboy by that point. It’s hard to pity the guy, but the prison system in the U.S. is not very effective at the whole “rehabilitation” thing.
@policeMarcus it is pretty complex. I agree America should do better, much better, but what about psychopaths? How do you rehabilitate someone like that? Someone who is incapable of feeling empathy or sympathy for others? A person who is likely to cause pain to others for the thrill of it? What about rapists and serial killers? What about child predators? It’s a very, VERY slippery slope, and most people just want nothing to do with people like that, and for good reason.
Lee: My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, a time of peace when the Avatar kept balance between the Water Tribes, Earth Kingdom, Fire Nation, and Air Nomads. But that all changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar mastered all four elements. Only he could stop the ruthless firebenders. But when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years have passed and the Fire Nation is nearing victory in the War. Two years ago, my father and the men of my tribe journeyed to the Earth Kingdom to help fight against the Fire Nation, leaving me and my brother to look after our tribe. Some people believe that the Avatar was never reborn into the Air Nomads, and that the cycle is broken. But I haven't lost hope. I still believe that somehow, the Avatar will return to save the world."
Coming back here to say I found a news broadcast that showed Lee actually ended up at the same prison his SISTER is at, who ALSO was convicted of murder as well. Their parents must be so proud
with these videos not really showing much on the victims i find myself weirdly empathizing and it’s weird because i know he obviously deserves whatever consequence he is given but just hearing someone accepting their entire life is over and there destiny is to die in jail really screws with my mind.
@Sport 2k I actually agree, it’s sometimes difficult to link the person to the crime when all you see is them cornered or seeming vulnerable. Plus, I think it’s natural to still have sympathy for someone who’s upset—it can be difficult to suspend that instinct even when you know the person is horrible. It doesn’t mean you don’t have sympathy for the victim or that you won’t feel angry towards the same person later, it’s just a “what’s in front of you” kind of reaction, in my opinion. Personally, the concept of having that psychological weight on you or being imprisoned for life is terrifying, so that resounds very deeply with me—a bit more so than getting murdered—and I think it’s normal for your reaction to match your deepest fears.
Sympathize with him? Wtf? He murdered, mutilated and burned the body of a young girl and would have happily continued his life if they didn’t catch him. And you’re empathizing with him crying, not because he killed her, but because he got caught? And when he’s wailing, he’s saying ‘fucking Savannah’, basically blaming the victim for his fate? Nah, dude. I’m enjoying seeing him suffer and hope he got much, much worse inside.
Yeah. As you just hear his story- and he is seeking sympathy and not guilty vibes. Makes sense. And you realize he is a killer.... so your good. Its part of psychology and not abnormal to sympathize with story of who your hearing..... trust
Understandable till a limit. It's only human to empathise but remind yourself he took someone's life and his guilt is because he got caught not that he killed someone
@William Cipher No sympathy for this monster. None of his tears illicit sympathy within me. Just regret that we don't do more to make criminals suffer than lock them in jail.
That poor girl fought for her life. She managed to scratch him on his neck and arms, kick the door open 3x and fought so hard that the car visibly shook.
@Olli Rolli did you see the footage quality ? It would be hard to realize something is moving even if the Hulk was break-dancing in front of that shitty camera
@Blake Walker i mean women have a natural instict for choosing men her failed or she just wanted the money... there was a reason she wanted to break up.. he probably did abuse her...
I mean, my windshield wiper shake my whole Jeep on the high setting. Might've been him kicking the door open as he was strangling her. Anyway, sad story, guy must have a very low IQ to resort to murder over something like an annoying junkie girl. Almost feel bad for him watching him weep like that, knowing he threw his life away, but then you realize he murdered a girl.
@Cody Richey Oh ok. Yeah it's pretty morbid and graphic but if you found it on the site I found it on, you've likely seen alot more gore than that! Shocking but yeah, 2020!
If you're ever taking captive always try to fight with everything you have because if they move you to another location you're just about as good as dead
@Kingof Grim why would you search a group that uses drugs?? Not to mention he used hard drugs... You're one of those people that take drugs and then wonder why they're depressed and tired
@zejd land LMFAO no… I got depression due to a shit ton of awful events, trauma, and chemical inbalances.. I smoke weed like most people do. It’s not pulling money away from me… on top of it actually helping me treat and tolerate my depression and anxiety.
Also I wish I could blame weed for being tired all the time… unfortunately I have quite literally been tired since 3rd or 4th grade, just about everyday of my life
@Kingof Grim you should know that marijuana doesn't help with depression but makes it worse... Countless studies on it.. Not only that but it makes your anxiety worser..
@Kingof Grim yes I also used weed ... but I don't try to use excuses to keep taking it.. No it doesn't treat your depression or anxiety.. maybe in a short term you will feel a little better BUT IN THE LONG TERM it makes especially anxiety worse.. (Speaking from experience and scientific studies)
@Kingof Grim I was also tired from the 3 4 grade.. But drugs won't help, I get how weed makes you feel... nothing matters and you feel like a god on it.. But it destroys your memory..(I still have problems with memory and clumsiness)
@zejd land LMAO pls if u really smoked weed before I need to see this bc the way you’re talking about it is the most undercover cop kinda way I’ve seen… since an undercover cop meme.
Studies do show it does not help depression much, however. I am unable to get medication for my illnesses at this point. (Also studies show weed GREATLY reduces anxiety… as well as the entire point of the drug is relaxation. But as always, it effects everyone differently, some get paranoid for example.)
Without weed I would be in a much worse spot than I am now. And with even worse coping mechanisms in an attempt to stop depression.
Also my memory always been destroyed so that ain’t matter much, concussions did way worse to me than weed has
I wanted to say he killed her by accident in a hate filled moment judging by his reaction at the end, but I forgot this detail since it was mentioned so early on in the video. She fought for her life, and she has wounds on 75% of her body. That’s not an accidental “oops I killed her” thing, not that it makes it any better.
@vermili0n Sorry, I find this comment so infuriating. We're more aware that we need to live like prey, so I doubt your comment was revolutionary or even a reminder to any of us. We very often do have self defense tools handy... but we deserve to live a life where if we accidentally leave without a fatal weapon, we dont fucking have to die... we shouldnt need to be so concerned that each time we leave home we may need to fend off a murderer.
So I'd like to offer you an edited version of your comment: This is why all you guys shouldnt kill us. Provide your kids with the skills needed to grow up without using violence against any man or woman unless saving a life is involved.
@EightySix Nah, fam. Malibus are on a different build than jeeps. It's pretty easy to rock a large vehicle, but the smaller and closer to the ground they are the harder you gotta be moving to visibly shake it. She fought hard--80% of her body had injuries.
Also, she wasn't "just an annoying druggie." She was a human being. Have some respect.
@Ethan CR Alright, well, touche on the first point. Now, as for "having some respect", I have plenty. People often forget that this is the internet which is full of trillions of comments on thousands of platforms that as far as I'm concerned just go into the ether. My belief is that if you are too sensitive or unprepared to read every comment, from every lifestyle and background, ethnicity, race, creed, gender you get the point, you shouldn't be here, especially not playing moral police. Ted Bundy was also a human being, let's not get into this.
@drownerofpikmin Formerly"AFKAAF"productions it actually does.... low IQ is correlated with level of criminality in Western cultures and likely others. It comes with less executive function to forsee consequences and inhibit impulsivity. More likely to be relatively poor and likely low in social standing with less to lose, etc.
Yeah, we all watched the same thing you did, we know what happened. You’re not going to add anything of substance to your comment? Just going to write what you heard the narrator say happened ? Why? What’s the point of that. Is it fun to do that? Let me try. This guy lee killed her, he said he didn’t know anything about what happened, and then he admitted it. Okay I see now , Misskay, that was fun! I feel like I added to the whole video watching experience. You might be on to something here , Misskay. Thank you!!!!!!!!!! 🥱🙄
@yarnpower what’s that have to do with it lol. So if she was a big girl it would have been better ? Lmfao. ‘Oh he murdered his gf, but she was a whale so she was able to fight back. So it was actually kind of fair. ‘ lol , makes sense.
Detective: "So how long have you known Savannah?" Lee: "We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones... "
I went to high school with Savannah Gold at Mandarin high, class of 2011. Never in a million years would I guess Lee would murder her, who I also personally knew. I'm still friends with them on Facebook. Crazy
Crazy you knew both of them. Did you have a connection to the Bonefish? They are about 10 years apart in age so I feel like Lee's only connection to Savannah was the BoneFishGrill
@Landon Torppey Let me correct myself. I went to HS with savannah and had classes with her. Lee was a popular friend of everyone and was at every party.
Yep, something like 90% of criminals get convicted on their own statements. Good thing they're too stupid to keep their mouth shut and lawyer up or I'd have nothing to watch lol
@Tom Staunton Adderall is an amphetamine, very similar to methamphetamine but not quite the same. So different you can see a physical difference between the two molecules.
@Musical Box Yes because just everyone knows extensively about ADHD medication & it's chemical makeup. For God's sake I've met parents giving the shit to their children without even knowing it's likeness to meth.
God damn it YouTube, I miss this man 😮💨. We love and miss the shit out of your glorious work JCS. I hope we can all find a platform that you can continue on so we can support you more💞
Yes! When I first discovered JCS I flew through all of the videos in virtually no time at all. I've watched some of these "JCS Inspired" channels, and there are some decent ones, but I miss JCS so badly! Do you know WHY he stopped making/posting videos on YouTube?
@Marta Hardt classic YouTube censorship and unfair algorithm concerning more serious video subjects. Basically since JCS isn't a main news channel or a larger creator, he got the shit end of YouTubes content "rules" on the subject matter of some of his stuff. Not only is this completely unfair to JCS, as his videos weren't anything less than proffesional and genuine, but also just solidifies how much of a mess YouTube is as a corporation and how they aren't made for the little guys anymore.
@Erin Wnuk Wow... Seriously??? That's is such BS. Especially since there are multiple channels that have pretty much the EXACT SAME videos as JCS! Thats very upsetting. I wish I could boycott YouTube, but **sigh**, we all know I can't actually stick to that... Thank You for the info though!
I fully agree, the female did very well the other interigator should NOT EVER interupt her again if she gets going.She analyzed him perfectly. She also gave her colleague ample time to do his thing.
I wish there was more. I just found this channel and it’s so bittersweet. Love the length of videos too. I really enjoy seeing the full picture and not just a sparks notes version of events.
@Pseudo Nym the storage already exists. Whoever invents institutions that would either care or know how to upgrade decade-old systems - that guy is gonna be rich.
@Loiso Pondohva the storage exists for sure but the main reasons institutions refuse to upgrade is because of cost IMO. not that it's not a worthy investment but they just don't wanna go balls deep on 100s of terabytes of storage cause "if it aint broke don't fix it." keep in mind an hour of 1080p video is just over a gigabyte and having to store all that over a long term (something like 200 GB per day per camera for up to 90 days) poses a definite challenge. Either way ur right, institutions don't care to spend money on this sort of thing, but the less it costs the more they start to consider it.
@Pseudo Nym sure, and if it was free, they would upgrade even sooner. The point is, cost is rarely a deciding factor in institutions. It's lack of will and initiative. The relative cost of systems that are currently installed in most government institutions was far more at the time of their installment, than a cost of comparable 1080p system now. They were installed just because the need became undeniable as old systems aged. Current systems haven't aged to that extent, and the process of dragging upgrades through all the instances of decision-making, procurement and installation is a long process itself. And 1080p video is 40 gb per 24 hours, not 200. Neither are 24-hour feeds stored for 3 months. But suppose they were. That makes a 10-camera system of 1080p video producing 400 gb per day, making it 36 tb in 3 months. And that is 600 - 1200$ in HDDs. Less than it typically costs to state to hold ONE inmate for that time by a factor of 2-5 depending on the state.
Dark Archon2020-09-09 01:43:30 (edited 2020-09-09 01:45:09 )
Dude they already make 4K Cameras with facial recognition technology these guys were just too cheap to have them installed or just didn't see the need to do it.
Johnnie So right you are Johnnie. Sometimes an eye witness talking to a charcoal sketch artist will yield a better likeness than most of those cheap obscurity cameras.
@Jonathan Rampersad naw, it wouldnt because once you mechanically zoom in it is not going to be much better. If you wanted a clear video that you can get zoomed stills you need hd at least at 1080 60fps any lower and the stills . What we really need, is for someone to invent a system that can record each hour and zip the folder to compress the data. Then if poloce are looikng for a certain time they can unzip and the video will be HD
@Jordan Thistle Well, video files are unable to be compressed by much seeing as how the original video format is already compressed. So zipping video files would save little if not any space at all. The solution to this problem definitely lies with storage, whether it be physical or cloud storage.
Pseudo Nym ... Like Amazon, Microsoft or Seagate? I think maybe you’re not too familiar with modern surveillance cameras, memory card and cloud storage options and pricing.
@Dark Archon Except 4k footage is hundreds of gigabytes. And now imagine having security footage of the entire week in 4k. You would need Microsoft servers to hold all that data
We use some nice Avigilon cameras at work that has crisp picture day and night even at 40x zoom. Each camera is $20,000. And that's exactly why almost no surveillance footage looks good. It's expensive.
@Pseudo Nym The archived data could easily be compressed and decompressed as necessary though. The technology and possibility exists, people are just apathetic
Just need to adopt the UK's system. They have great cameras and great public use of surveillance. Great for tracking missing people. Awful for public privacy.
The footage was probably extremely zoomed in. The camera was probably near or mounted on the building and the cars were parked pretty far away from the building.
@Loiso Pondohva The storage for exabytes of data for cameras over the whole country stored for at least 2 months back does not exist. Its an insane amount of storage and would increases exponentially with higher quality cameras. The reason its low definition is so that they can tell someone was there or something happen but not more. Its a decent compromise.
@Andre Eijbers Compressing and decompressing are still not free and require processing power, which in turn requires money to buy that processing power (using on-premises infrastructure, cloud services, etc.)
matthew scoles good old Tom....wonder what ever happened to him. 😂
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@Alexandre Nicastro You cant use cloud storage for such a problem its far too slow. When moving such large storage its faster to send it by train and then locally transfer than ethernet infrastructure. Unless you have a dedicated site to site 100 terabyte link. like some campuses can have for super computers.
Pseudo Nym Of course you’re gonna be the guy that has to go from 10p to 1080 in one jump.. If security footage would have even 360 or 480 you would be able to see more than the primary colors of the scene..
It's an issue of storage. And IT bugets. The cost or storing footage from dozens or more HD cameras is prohibitively expensive. Especially if they are required to keep footage for a specific length of time. Even with moderns video compression, that shit adds up fast. Source: IT guy
@DrifterMW the police doesn't get enough money as it is. That is why they are corrupted lol.
The training an American police goes through is pitiful compared to many other countries. And in these times they are so desperate that they let people in who don't pass the background check. Which feeds the machine even more.
So where is the money gonna come from then, you think?
The camera is likely very far away and that is a zoomed in shot of the area in question. Look up the UK CCTV cameras, they zoom in like crazy but it gets grainy.
The issue still is storage. I work with an company who still uses vhs tapes for some cameras where video footage is a must, simply because its cheaper, and for others the camera it just takes a still image every x seconds because the bill to upgrade and store the data would be a contract the runs in 10s of millions. The cameras are simply meant to be a deterrent and this is probably true for a lot of organizations
Cloud storage is a no-no It's prone to breaches and alike. Oh yeah also it can be tampered far easier than local drive. Dunno tho, I was thinking of near-dystopian justice system. Maybe i was just too pessimistic and thought too far.
@Your Average Imperial Guard then tampering with the evidence will be the highest concern. You could access cloud from anywhere. I don't know the details about internet security (since I'm an expert) soo correct me if I'm wrong
Offline storage has a failsafe which is CCTV to guard the room, CCTV leading to the room, and CCTV outside of the building (if there are any). Tampering with offline storage will require more work and prone to mistakes that lead to being discovered.
"But there is simple thing like Date Modified" Let's see. If the evidence is tampered (especially without offline backup), it IS still gone. Access history could be tracked but I think position scrambling software is quite accessible to public. (On the part above, I'm not certain on how far the internet security goes, I might have dumbed it down. In such case, please do enlight me.)
If you're talking about special encrypted cloud storage that require physical appearance on access room, I have zero idea about such system. If there is none, it would be....VERY expensive to develop, I think.
(Below is purely my theory) Also, blackhat hackers are sure not common. But on Epstein level case, suspect might have access to such people. If some people could tamper with offline storage (which is I think is harder), then someone could tamper with online storage.
Please do correct me though, since I'm not a computer-related graduate and would like to listen to people with far more competent knowledge.
mike h hdds are cheap don’t even get me started you can get 2 terabytes for 40 dollars, the problem is that they’re not as fast as ssds, but frankly in an investigation I’d rather have the crystal clear footage and have it take a minute to load than have grainy footage and nothing to go from
@Loiso Pondohva the institutions don't care. whoever invents the trojan virus that goes out and destroys all 10 pixel security cameras in existence is going to be famous...not rich...but well liked.
@Pseudo Nym It was a red light camera, it probably was HD but there's a limit to view distance. The camera wasn't set up to capture the adjacent parking lot of a bonefish grill.
Loiso Pondohva file size depends on compression and encoding not just the resolution too. I’ve had many videos that are only a couple of hours long at 1080p be over 20gb
Everything needed is already there, problem is cost and changes in workplace. But honestly having hd camera in interrogation room would seem really helpful to observe expressions small details.
Oh wait, no... Also, interrogation production videos could be better too. I wonder if it's on purpose. It's not hard these days, and this is recent. I also wonder if there's a tactical, psychological, or legal reason for this lack of HD. For crying out loud, we be doing 8K+ these days... lol
@Loiso Pondohva I mean sure but not multiply that with each station and the fact they actually have to save it for quite a long time, I believe. I'm not 100% sure how long but I wouldn't be surprised if it's years. So it's not a one time cost either.
@Loiso Pondohva Full HD @30fps on an iphone 6s is 7,6GB per hour or 180GB per day. Police stations often keep footage for 180 days so that means little over 32TB per camera; which is 1000 bucks in HDD storage. A NAS that could store enough drives for 8 camera's is 5000 bucks. Not sure how 1.600 bucks per camera just for storage is somewhere near cheap
basically you have a choice HD quality videos stored for less time e.g. keep the footage for only one month or lower quality footage stored for a longer time e.g. keep the footage for 6 months. That's why security cameras are lower quality because it's deemed more important to be able to store the footage for a longer time rather than increase the quality of the footage
@Loiso Pondohva well, we can get there eventually if we start investing in education. There are plenty of people who want to do these things, but not near enough because they arent educated on these issues enough to know the real and dire need for it and other things.
@Siwi the Costco I worked at has that too I worked at the cell phone kiosk and there was a few incidents of theft I got to see their setup, and holy FUCK hahaha It's like full HD with optical zoom haha, no loss in quality even when zoomed in They can see your whole face crystal clear, have all angles covered, it's crazy
its not the camera that is bad, its that the footage is intentionally recorded in small size because recording footage 24/7 takes insane amounts of storage. try recording something in full HD for 5min and see what file size you get. now imagine recording 24/7. no one has such huge sized storage servers in companies for such thing as security camera that mostly records nothing important.
Storage is easy, convert your recordings to a smaller file type - like .mov or something and it will definitely still contain way more clarity than low quality footage.
@Tyson Holyfield Tim Berners-Lee invented WorldWideWeb and gave it away for free (for the good of humanity - and fuckin lovers of fuckin cute fuckin kittens!)
@Alain Lalonde do you really think there is any incentive to be doing these in HD? a courtroom doesn't need an IMAX projection screen because these aren't filmed for homebodies to binge online. they just need recognizable visuals and audio.
Quality of archived footage from CCTV is improving on a curve. This particular footage was cropped and enlarged so the quality is poor. If you look at the whole frame it has a lot of detail of the carpark but they zoomed in.
whoever invents something that stops my children from taking a toilet roll from the packet and leaving it somewhere instead of on the holder is gonna be rich 😂 sorry it's my cleaning day today and I'm getting triggered by random things
@Pseudo Nym Storage shouldn't be an issue. If you film in 1080p at 30 FPS, you could get a month's worth of video on a little over 10TB of storage. You can set security cameras to loop over old footage. If you don't catch a need for footage in a month, then you're doing something seriously wrong. That being said, 10TB of storage will run you $600-700. You could easily scale that to much longer for pennies for a business.
I'm not interested in developing this so here's the best idea if you want to store it locally:
Have high quality 1080p footage for last 24 hrs, then have the buffered footage quality get transcoded into increasingly lower qualities.. the next 2 days could be 720p.. and then you could probably store weeks of footage in 480p. Maybe you could do this w/ like 20TB? Obviously you may want redundant drives though.
Uhm. Dunno about the us but here in germany we have 16 1080p 24fps cameras in the store. Have to delete every 2 weeks though. A simple server does it. It's not that expensive and worth the cost. You catch every thiev.
@Loiso Pondohva if it was free? THEY GET PAID BY THE STATE IT IS FUCKING FREE FOR THEM. They just spend the money on APC's and the latest fucking tactical jack boots to stand on your neck with. ACAB.
God I work security and this is true. I think it’s because a lot of those cameras are really old. We’ve been getting some new cameras when some need to be replaced and they look super HD
The thing is that running a high quality security camera 24/7 would make a lot of businesses run bankrupt real fast. You would need to rent a server to store the video which isn't cheap and that would probably only last for 1 month of 24/7 footage
I own a business not generally open to the public. I don’t have random people stopping, nor do I have cash or whatnot. The cameras are just around the building, especially the warehouse where expensive tools, equipment, and scrap copper is stored. All valuable to thieves.
The truth is the deterrent is the camera, not the actual video. If someone was going to break in, then they can spoil the camera with a simple mask. Putting in expensive cameras and data storage on the possibility someone who breaks in is stupid enough to do so without hiding their identity. Let alone someone murdering someone else in its view by chance.
Why tf do people have cameras that probably cost more then my phone and still have like 10p quality 🤣 ITS 2020 WHY THEY STILL LOOK LIKE THAT BRU. I’m convinced it’s on purpose... jk
It's not the camera that is the problem. It is the storage solution and the bitrate you have configured it to download and store it. Most cameras will record in 720p or 1080p but the storage solution cannot hold much footage at those resolutions so even though it records at a high resolution it gets downscaled and stored at a lower one resulting in the images you see in these playbacks.
Look at the camera on the wall, the second angle. It's disguised to look like an outlet, maybe the main one is also disguised and the film or whatever covering it makes it blurry?
They've got cheap storage, but they would rather store what sort of soap powder you use and how often you play fortnite, and enable you to watch films you've seen 100 times before over the internet all day, than use it for anything useful.
Good joke. Okay, lets move on. WHEN quality of image (pixels per inch) is gonna get to level that you can zoom to anyone walking street to his finger tip and camera is able to clearly get lines of that hands finger print. Its will gonna be called new 'digital dna' proof. Plrase dont anyone press thumbs up yet, but save it to day it will be launched. Then i'll pull this message and screen shot of this (on 01.15.2021) and will give interviews for money, and there is more intresting info according to this matter. Until that day peace out. Yep, im a pretty smart guy -thank you.
@Pseudo Nym most security systems re-record over it after a set amount of time. Usually about 48 hours. That's about 50gb per camera amounting to around 18 cameras for 1TB hard drive if you decide to be a complete cheapskate and put your OS and recording software on the same drive. Decent 1TB hard drive is 100$ at most.
We are randomly saying that the one that invest that atuff will be rich. Someone who reads this and has the money actually invests in it and get lots of money....
It’s the storage of HD that’s costly. Still, it doesn’t appear that the quality has improved much in the past 25 years. You can barely make any of these people out. WW1 footage has more definition
That camera was already a high resolution camera. The problem is that the important part of the image is so far that we have to zoom in a lot in order to see anything. Obviously in all digital cameras, when an image is zoomed in, it pixelates.
@Suburban Housewife The difference between this and surveillance is, this is required by law to be saved for so many years(along with every single other interview/interrogation). Surveillance footage at a business can be over written everyday/week or month. Both have very different quantities needed for storage.
@l mOnce the case is closed, this becomes public record and by law, MUST be archived for a specific amount of time. Police can't just erase one video to make room for an other.
Security camera footage has to be low-quality because the camera is filming 24/7 and that much HD footage wouldn't be able to fit on their computer. It has to be compressed so they can store hundreds of hours of it.
@Pseudo Nym actually your wrong on that they will not upgrade or add additional storage or cameras until something terrible happens...then they run to their security company wanting done yesterday. I work in the industry and I can tell you there are cams that could had prolly recorded what happened in that car. Problem is like ya said people dont want to pay for real security. Well until something happens or something goes missing that's very important. I garuntee that this particular bone fish grill prolly spent some money on cameras storage and maybe a new video system just to prevent something like this happening again or at the very least to get a face or license plate capture. No one will kill and abduct in that parking lot again I'd bet ton in that. But if companies (that includes banks too(some still use black and white cams ) cared about security they'd regularly update there cameras every atleast 5 years and make sure they excellent coverage. And if they cared they'd reevaluate their camera needs every 2-4 years to make sure nothing happening around and in their property is lethal. Just my opinion. But most places have atleast 15 year old camera systems or older and expect thta to be good enough for insurance even though it's nothing to help investigators. I'm honestly surprised they got what they got.
Companies like to pocket as much money as possible while investing as little as possible. There are already cheap 4K cameras and cheap storage drives. You can buy a set of 8 security cameras in 1080p with software included for as little as 150 from your local supermarket. You can get a set of 12 4k cameras with software included AND STORAGE hardware for less than 1000. Companies would rather they pocket that money instead for some rich ass CEO to get a few drinks at a fancy bar instead. This is the reality.
@Robert Fierce yep thats true and when they do decide to upgrade security after an event, the money sure as hell won’t come out of the upper echelons bonuses, raises etc. instead they’ll hold off on lower level raises and bonuses for a year if they even do that. Or possibly cut People from payroll.
In countries that got the tech later they're much better quality, in places like the US they are shitty because you got the tech first but don't want to pay to upgrade. It's as simple and depressing as that I'm afraid.
@Pseudo Nym this. My mom's workplace had a recurring issue with shrubs being stolen off the premises - but god forbid installing a quality camera that doesn't fog up to boot. Shrubs were being restocked 10x more often than the actual produce in the store
Lmao people dont know how cctv works at all most companies or regular buisnesses or just ur average home camera maby only has like max 10tb of storage and that is even alot, they cant capture hd fotage because most of the time its gonna fill in no time escpecially with more then a couple cameras, so the oldest footage will delete itself when its about to be full, so the lower quality the longer time u can keep old footage. most cctv if not all deletes itself after a couple months unless someone checks it and saves it.
@Pseudo Nym: But if the taxpayer foots the bill who cares right? I'd rather money be spent on this than say the $1.7 billion of American taxpayer money that Hussein gave to Iran.
@Amazing Grace messenger Look into a VPN for your phone.. The main way gov tracks you is through SIM card and web trackers. I use psiphon for android and firefox but there are other free ones and also different kinds of software to root out embedded trackers
I think everyone has missed one important detail regarding security camera data storage. Multiply whatever you deem the data storage requirement to be by the number of strip malls, gas stations, banks, and every small business, etc. in America...
Whoever invents a storage method for that much simultaneous data is going to be rich.
The cloud is, I ,suppose the right direction and a good start but woefully inadequate. We will need next gen storage in the foreseeable future.
@Pseudo Nym Expensive? what do you mean? If you go off your figures 1gb/hour for 90days is a bit over 2TB per camera which is around £50gbp for a HDD of that size. Also 200GB a day for 90Days like you claim is 18 TerraBytes so they wouldn't need "100s of terabytes" and your math doesn't really check out there.
Also if they were even half smart they would use automated compression on the video footage and that 200GB a day would then all fit on one single 2TB HDD at 1:10 which is pretty standard rates you can get free.
Im pretty sure a company that earned $619M in revenue in 2017 can afford a single payment £50 for much better security that can be used for facial recognition for thiefs etc or in this case murderous employees, they're just being stingy trying to save every penny they can.
@Roddy Piper's Irritated Corneas I worked 4 years as a lead network engineer for a company that installs and supports security, iot and customer interaction automation systems for big companies and the Russian government. There are a lot of companies that basically steal taxpayer money by marking up more than 1000% both due to corruption (same, but to lesser extent in the US) and marketing it as "guaranteeing 24/7 commercial support" and similar buzzwords. But if you know the hardware market and work with the industry directly, and find great network engineers, not more of them - it's not that bad. A small business wouldn't be able to afford it due to large upfront costs, but economies of scale make it work. Our company has increased the tender price more than once just because clients refused to believe it can be done 3-5 times cheaper than some of the competition. But it can be, we are long past 90-s. Attitudes like "it can't be done for 5k, because that one company charged me 50k that last time" is the reason they keep getting away with selling low-grade hardware with obsolete networking and a 2005 server architecture for millions to taxpayers.
@Pseudo Nym tbh, I edit gaming videos and it took me like a week to learn how to compress files at keep the resolution, I'm pretty confident that you could hire a software engineer to. develop an algorithm that mass compresses footage every couple days/weeks whatever
You can get a 16 camera system including recorder and 6TBs for about 6k usd. This setup would roughly get you 2 weeks of continuous recording at 1080p from all cameras before the footage is recorded over. Compression is a beautiful thing.
@Pseudo Nym It doesn't need to be a perfect 1080p blu-ray quality file. You can store the video in a much lower format/size and still make it look 100 times better than a mass of blurry pixels.
It's just not needed. They just need this more for documentation purposes, not to ID anyone. Every person they bring into these rooms are documented and time stamped. It's more for reference than anything.
@Loiso Pondohva What you’re asking for essentially is the equivalent of putting retina scanners on automatic doors in a school: absolutely not worth it for the actual purpose of the device.
It's all about placement and lighting too though. Most cameras are high up. Having had to go to all neighboring businesses to get security footage, I found even with the places with 4k and multiple cameras all captured...the top view of someone in a hoodie and baseball cap. 😐
@Loiso Pondohva it’s just not with it for s restaurant. At best better cameras at the register. Theft from employees doesn’t require high quality. Also footage of other type of theft like dine and dash is just useless in most cases.
.........What's up with the trapezoidal window/mirror in the interrogation room?.....Or am I looking at it wrong?......If it is a trapezoid, is it a psychological interrogation technique?
A couple of things here, this is a parking lot security cam, probably as old as the shopping center. Second, police often dont release the highest quality images they have unless they are forced to. In this situation most of the video was still confidential. It's possible they made a recording of their footage and just used the old VCR in the basement of the PD....
Trust me security cams are pretty cheap and amazing. Storage isnt as cheap yet, but cheap enough....
I ain't gonna read the 308 replies. Problem is video cameras have to record for hours on end so footage that isn't new is normally compressed as to not waste space from hours and hours of footage. This leads to shitty video and audio. I think as long as it works then the government is going to keep cutting the costs.
They exist.. but whoever can do so magically and gets it installed all over the required places.. then... But now.. they'll be like "well, what about installation costs?"
Eh I can see why a camera for a purpose like this one doesn't really need to be high definition, if anything happens you already know who was in the room at that time and it isn't likely something would take place where you'd need high definition footage of a room that's barely 2x2 meters.
dont watch this shit. its bad for the general public. its produced and directed in a way to manipulate you to be overly influenced by fear media. this is not educational or informative.
It seems to me that the camera in question might well have been high definition, it's just that the incident occupied a tiny part of the camera's view, due to being far away.
@Siwi McDonald’s is a multi billion corporation and the stores bring in millions. I wouldn’t be surprised if their camera system used some kind of expensive cloud storage system
@Pseudo Nym They could employ a similar solution to particle physics labs which generate terabytes of data each second. Simply apply a trigger with a reference for a normal uninteresting scenario and only store the data long term if the trigger tags the footage as sufficiently interesting. This cannot be applied everywhere, but there are many situations where it could be an improvement
a good Idea would be propably to save the vid in the same resolution as we do now but to Involve an algorythm that uses the whole resolution for the face and licence plates
@ACatFromPoland There are ways to compress images and video without losing to much data. Though most people here seem to gloss over a couple things.
We don't know how often this video was compressed, before it got to YouTube. Which adds another compression run.
Security Cam footage usually isn't watched on a 4k, 24"+ monitor, most of the time its in like 800x600i, which then gets converted to 800x600p and then gets stretched to 1080p. So the aspect ratio is changed, the video has been deinterlaced (which can't be done lossless), the video got uploaded on some website, then downloaded, edited, rendered and uploaded to YouTube were it was compressed again.
So yeah no need to read 300 replies, because they all talk about the camera sucking and not about how much this footage got altered before it got into this video.
@Gavrata No it isn't. The problem is the pipeline this footage went through.
The security cam footage is just probably deinterlaced, the aspect ratio changed and compressed more then once. That's if it wasn't digitalised from an analog signal.
The original video is perfect, the problem is people who keep stealing them from other channels and uploading them as their own are butchering the quality when they put it through their cheap software that they have no idea on how to use.
As someone who has to deal with security cameras as part of their IT job... I'm not really sure what to say..
today's storage/cloud options are super cheap compared to like 10+ years ago...but the problem is companies don't care... why fix what isn't broken? we can see blobs today, and it meets the 30, 90, 120 whatever day requirement for footage
today's cameras are really clear, and instead of it being hard to make out a car at 100ft, it's hard to make out someone's Face at 100ft.... but why bother with the cost of upgrading when today's solution "works".. new locations at my job will get better cameras, which we usually lower the quality quite a bit (still better than the old cameras) for the sake of storage which no one wants to spend money on either. older locations get a analog BNC connection type camera (much lower resolution) whenever a camera breaks because upgrading the infrastructure in that location as to support the better cameras, is deemed not important by the business and reasons like cost and priority are brought up
when you start talking 100+ locations, 12-48 cameras per location, 90+ days of footage... the numbers get BIG and FAST and the business is like "IT? Storage? Resolution? what do those even mean, just get the cheapest thing" so... you and your co-workers propose some 250k plan and managements laughs at you piece meals your plan together and gets some 80k+ number.
then people just go about their business as per usual... "why do your cameras suck This bad? when are you going to upgrade them??" .... when you JUST upgraded them LOL
TLDR: whoever convinces senior management at companies, that their camera systems can be 100% better overall, while also undercutting the market for security systems.... is going to be filthy rich
@Pseudo Nym yeah, HD security cameras use a LOT of memory. have some on a property and it exhausts the entire monthly wifi budget in less than a week. though, i feel that an upgrade to a few of the cameras as needed would be well within their budget. maybe it's not quite needed here, though.
Talking to a guy I know who installs security equipment a while back, most places like large businesses don't upgrade because of existing wiring. When they initially had their system installed, they didn't wire it for future-proofing. The coax cable they used was just enough to handle the existing signal over the lengths they were installed.
When talking about a few cameras in a convenience store that has a drop ceiling, they are much more likely to upgrade to higher-quality equipment because they are mostly concerned with footage from inside or just outside the store, and wiring is relatively cheap and easy because of the easy access and short lengths.
When talking about a strip mall's cameras, they are likely all going to be exterior cameras (individual tenants/stores use their own systems inside) and many cameras would be placed on light poles in the parking lot. Depending if the original cable was run with conduit, if it was taped or tied in a bundle with other wires in the conduit, if there is any room in the conduit, Etc... all of those things could present a challenge, on top of that tracing down and figuring out where existing cables go in order to replace them, if you can. Then the lengths of new cable itself, and challenges with that. With higher bitrate, you need more bandwidth, and with that you have different tolerances and possibly the need for repeaters over long runs of cable. Needing a powered repeater halfway across a parking lot or along a mostly barren rooftop can be a costly addition, and make the costs for running new cable far exceed the cost of the equipment.
The relative price for storage isn't a big issue. IP cameras do their own encoding these days, and some can even do H.265 compression. For static footage like surveillance, even H.264 (the most common) would be next to nothing as far as storage goes. For a 1080p 24fps camera encoding at H.264, you're talking 40-55GB per 24 hours set at high quality. The same camera using H.265 would be about 25-35GB per 24 hours. 12 cameras stored for 2 weeks using H.264 would be less than 10TB. An enterprise 10-12TB drive can be had for around $500, double that for a simple RAID1 array and we're still only at $1000. The NVR will likely be $1000+. The cameras will be the biggest part of the equipment cost ($200-1000 ea). Still, none of this is crazy expensive until you add in the labor trying to run the new cabling.
@MMaya It depends how it's encoded, what type of compression is used. Most regular cameras encode in a MJPEG or other low-compression codec because it requires less processing power and is closer to "lossless" for the end-user to later edit or compress at their discretion. Decent modern surveillance cameras and NVRs use H.264 or H.265 to conserve space, and use like 7% or less of the space compared to MJPEG (depending on the amount of motion in the footage). And before you say something about the quality of those compression methods, I encode all of my ripped movies on my plex server in H.264 or H.265 if it's in 4K, there is no discernable difference from the raw ripped file from the Bluray, except it's 1/10th the file size or less.
@Pseudo Nym you said that an hour of video is roughly a gigabyte, so wouldn’t that be closer to 30 gigabytes instead of 200? Plus a terabyte hard drive only costs about 50$ for one that you know won’t fail easily and on top of that they could delete footage more than a couple weeks old
@Daniel Amon high enough quality cameras to get more than 10 pixels already are not that expensive and even if you needed 100 of them it isn’t really a matter of cost because they have the money to do it
most camera systems have decent quality, it's just the installers record at a lower quality so they dont have to spend more money to keep the recordings for longer
@Pseudo Nym if you say that an hour takes over 1GB then you can't say in next sentence that a day takes 200GB (you are not wrong, it may take that much based on encoding). :D Usually a good quality modern CCTV cameras keep 24-48hrs in raw footage (meaning you can really zoom in and enhaaaance) and then compress the leftover footage for long-term storage (you no longer can zoom in and enhaaaance plus nightime footage now sucks too).
I had a genuine P.O.S. TracFone with a horrible camera and THAT piece of garbage took better video than those ersatz " security cameras " that businesses and Law Enforcement use . You know those photos of Bigfoot and UFOs ( I actually believe that intelligent Life exists on other Worlds and the strong possibility that Bigfoot exists) that are always grainy and lack definition ? Those photos are like IMAX Camera images compared to the "blobs" that SOMEHOW were THANKFULLY interpreted to be Human . Thank goodness for eye witnesses and descriptions because this MONSTER woulda gotten away .
mkaes you laugh doesn't it! we have HD images from mars but when ever someones murdered all we have is grained 2 megapixle footage! its not good enough in todays day and age! security companies should be fined for failing to provide useable footage! otherwise cameras just serve as a potential deterant rather than have an actual function
@Loiso Pondohva non sense, camera lenses and parts are super cheap these days! no one is asking them for 4 k images but even 4k camera sensors are dirt cheap! if the chinese can stick better cameras on $5 drones then there is zero excuse
@Pseudo Nym "an hour of 1080p video is just over a gigabyte and having to store all that over a long term (something like 200 GB per day per camera" Jesus, where did you learn mafs?
@Pseudo Nym "whoever invents cheap storage for hundreds of hours of HD security footage is gonna be rich" Act normal clown, nobody asks for 4k or 8k, but 720p would already be a huge boost, not to mention 1080p, and the storage solutions for these are super cheap.
the security video is rendered in low quality, because the owners of the shop don't spend enough money into storage space. can imagine it would be expensive, though.
@Siwi only thing you guys dont have are real chefs in america btw people dont need a degree to cook in holland they need multiple also a hygiene certificate
Working with 1080p and especially 4k video is extremely taxing for modern systems. For the evidence to be effective it has to be ready on time and easy to send to various people. You cant be like "hey just wait like 2 weeks and then go on the cloud and download this 500gb uncompressed 4k video file."
OP is obviously joking. What's sadder is people even taking the "10 pixels" as serious. But those of you claiming it's expensive, dummies. Period. Storage and hd cameras are not expensive anymore. You can have all the terabytes you need.
The only valid issue here is that people usually don't even bother with cameras to places like parking lots. The camera was extremely zoomed in. Looked like it was from across the street. I used to work at a restaurant that had at least 15 cameras in the main dining area. Multiple in back and surrounding the building. But none looking half a block down in the parking lot. And that's just how it be.
@Loiso Pondohva institutions already exists. Whoever invents a law that says to always share good quality videos after resolving cases - that guy is gonna be remembered.
Yeah right, good luck running your own business with 5 of your 4K super advanced cameras running 24/7 then lol. Good luck finding enough storage to store all your video record too bro.
@Pseudo Nym Why not cloud storage? And 12TB isn't that much, 4 12TB NAS drives running together so if one dies they still have footage and be PLENTY of space. That's not a very expensive.
@Pseudo Nym kinda bad math there man, you said 1 hr of 1080p is 1 GB yet 200 GB per day per camera? even if we assume 30gb for 24 hrs, and 90 days of storage thats only 2.7TB of storage per camera. you can find 4TB hdd for sub $100 nowadays.
@Pseudo Nym Assuming Netflix levels of compression (~3.5Mbps) and let’s say a 15fps rate at 720p, 1gb/hr sounds acceptable
Assuming a building has 10 cameras, that’ll be 1*24*10 which is 240gb per day. A year of recordings would be ~88TB.
90TB worth of WD Gold hard drives costs ~£2500 and that’s just after typing ‘10TB hard drives’ into Google and looking at the first few results, I’m sure businesses could get them a good deal cheaper, especially huge corporations that would end up buying them in bulk
Honestly, that’s not even remotely expensive considering the amount of quality YouTube content we’d get out of better quality CCTV footage ;)
@Pseudo Nym also the fact that if the cameras were high quality there is a possibility that some information on the papers or on someone’s personal phone may be seen and I believe that’s why the camera quality is not that great
@Loiso Pondohva The Problem is that it is usually just seen as a cost factor to lower while holding an inmate is a clearly needed purpose - its some thing of consciousness and awareness - some bad psychological phenomenon.
@Jordan Thistle :D Man you cant compress videos a lot more further than the codecs are doin it. You can zip but you wont magically gain less size.
If you try to compress pictures or videos - it's usually done via the codec already - if you got uncompressed formats like bitmap pictures, wav audios or avi videos it would not help alot to try zipping it you need real video/bitmap compression which is usually done via the encoding of the information/file itself
There are lossless and lossy ways - but the point to reduce redundand information from the file and beeing able to recronstuct it again afterwards losless is nowadays pretty closely brought to its limits Maybe AI can further improve this but this will like lossy formats alter the data - which im not sure is good for evidence :) and since you never explicitly know that the ai is doing you (just implicitly) would not even know how it was altered in that way.
@Adrian Flo The 100 terabyte network link - 😂😂😂 man you made my day -
take me to those terabit Networks 😂 ive been stumbling and jerking arround with these slowass 10-100Gbit lanes for years now.
Seriuosly you had 100gbit link in mind right ? - 100 terabit link would be smashing of almost every IEEE Standard - what hardware should be handling that load ? I believe theres currently a max of 400gb/s as with the newest IEEE standards.
Using a dedicated gbit line (some symmetric type where the Upload is gbit aswell and bandwith is guaranteed) would be sufficient if you have not that many clients per site (as like 25MBit/s per camera stream should be way enough for 40 simultanious camera streams per site @1080-60fps (dismissing any other traffic on the side))
even if i agree that cloud storage is not the way to go for video surveillance storage - your claims are just skyrocketing and not the reason for that -> its just damn expensive to even have like 1Gbit dedicated upload ;D (at least where i live at)
@Somebody else most likely since g and t are close to each other on the keyboard. But i have no idea what the conversation was about. Something about camera quality and storage space?
@Loiso Pondohva During the Y2K Bug crisis at the end of the 90's, a COBOL programmer took jobs fixing out-dated programs and services that weren't correctly designed for using dates after December 31st, 1999. A lot of these existed because both public and private sector companies were notoriously bad at updating old technology, and so he made a lot of money. However he was in cripplingly bad health due to the long hours he spent understanding and fixing old, poorly maintained code in a language as frustrating to use as COBOL. Doctors said he would live with his problems for the rest of his now-shortened life. So he used his new wealth to put himself into cryogenic stasis, to await new medical technology that could cure his issues.
When he was brought back, he was surrounded by future technology he had only seen in science fiction movies. He asked the people that brought him out of stasis "You woke me up, does that mean you can fix my health problems?" They answered "Yes, but there is another reason we brought you back. The year is 9999, and you know COBOL."
@Adrian Flo Yeah it is the surveillance camera quality storage Space/Solutions discussion where you made the point about the 100tb nw link needed for cameras data transfer as argument for not using cloud storage as solution :)
@Loiso Pondohva u r a fool , even 720 p hd will generate 150 gb per day , with 10 cameras its 1.5 tb per day , around 140 tb for 3 months , u are actually asking 50000 $ for just hard disk alone , that too for one place cover . There are thousands of places making it way worse . All of it for 720p
And then u want 1080p hd , keep your knowledge to yourself
@Pseudo Nym for a restaurant to save and delete a moving five day average of footage would benefit them in so many ways to make it worth it. It doesn’t have to be 1080 and it could be motion sensor. Whatever system England uses is what we need. They should want it to protect themselves from theft, lawsuits, etc. it could’ve prevented not only her murder but the lawsuit for the manager having an against policy relationship. People use this technology for their personal homes. It’s not THAT expensive
I work at a security company. They make them but we can almost never sell them. People are always cheap with their cameras unless it’s really high security.
@Loiso Pondohva insitutions already exist. whoeverr invents globababollor to return the free will of human slavesvessels to their rightful selfowner is gonna be rach
@Pseudo Nym late reply, but lets just say two young men in NY who decided to have a shoot out in broad daylight are extremely fortunate there is a scaffold blocking my buildings camera. Our security system can see your boogers lol.
@Pseudo Nym about $1000 per year for 100 tbyte I think that would cover most medium size facilities if they thought cloud was a good option Or I reckon around $500 per camera in hard disk storage
there is a ton of comments so im sure its already been said but...its one thing to have low quality 24/7 surveillance storage and its another to have a few hours worth of video for an important interrogation.
hmm, I am pretty certain we have cameras over 8k quality? :D But you know where you save all that data? Someone needs to come up with some amazing compression algorithm or develop some other intellignt system to store the data. Maybe Richard can help
@Dark Archon ah yes let every institution download cameras with AIs to detect human motion which also happen to be 4k yes great idea. absolute baffoonery your honor
Nah bro, whoever creates a stable, safe and wealthy society format where 0 crimes happen will be rich… actually i don’t think the hunger games would be suitable…
Going through a nasty divorce and custody battle and spending my time alone with my 6 month old in my new apartment.
I listen to these when my son naps and I have free time to hang out. It’s SO cozy filling out his baby book or cooking or sitting and having a soda at my bar counter with this in the background.
I guess it’s just nice knowing at least my court hearing won’t be as stressful at these situations 😂
My ex and I are going through evaluation and his dad and my mom both spoke with the evaluator separately to support my case. My ex only has his mom and she’s batshit insane and disowned by her family.
Both are drug addicts and mentally unstable but are trying to make me sound crazy. Truth is coming out though.
For real though. I was half expecting him to be like "I was born November 10, 1983 at 5:27 pm to my parents Jane and Joe Rodarte at downtown hospital off Main Street and 3rd...." Like damn bro don't give all your life story.
Detective said "how long have you known her" and he was like ".... so like by Fall 1942 the German army had gone through most of Western Russia but when the Winter set in their luck changed... and so anyway that's why NASA exists."
@Dale Dillard I don't understand any of these guys not asking for a lawyer right away. I'm guessing that they think they can talk their way out of it by lying and insisting they are telling the truth (answer: "I don't know...") but you NEVER know how much evidence the police have as to what really happened. You tell one lie ---- you're done. Better just to ask for a lawyer and not say anything.
@Apóstolo da Razão try being original sometime, I remember even getting out the Bible to make sure I got it right, you just stole it. And yea that’s what makes it sad, you did it for attention not anything of value, I did it for the lolz.
@Apóstolo da Razão so just remember, when you’re laying in bed counting all your valuable likes, that you know, and I know, that you read my comment first, and instead of commenting on it , you stole it, then 9 months later you’re still responding and telling people you’re glad you made them laugh, but I made them laugh, and you took credit, poser
@Brando E Lee It is so ridiculous that you made me laugh. Do you really think I read all the thousands of comments that were already here and then saw yours and said "Oh, that is a good one! I am going to steal it"? Ha, ha, ha! And do you really think you are the only person on this side of the Milky Way that would think of this Bible verse? Other people here had the same idea. And: comments have no copyright. So, get a life! PS: Your comment got 90 likes. Mine 13,000. Obviously, because I wrote it in a funnier way than you wrote yours (too long). If you want, I can teach you how to write funny.
@Brando E Lee How could I steal your comment, if I didn't even know your comment existed? I had to look for it today, because I found it so funny that you complained. You wrote yours 2 months before I wrote mine! There were already hundreds of comments with more likes than yours, and showing first. Do you think I scroll all the way down to the bottom through thousands of comments to find yours and steal it? And how come yours got 90 likes, but mine 13,000 likes, if yours was first and I supposedly copied it? Ha, ha, ha!
@Brando E Lee Yeah, I scrolled down all the way to the bottom through thousands of comments with thousands and hundreds of likes to steal yours that that time had maybe 5 likes, ha, ha, ha!
@Apóstolo da Razão that’s the first step, admitting you were wrong. Now maybe you should reevaluate what you assign value to, for instance, you’re so proud of the likes without seeing the value of being original. Good luck tho
@Brando E Lee Yeah! Only you could come up with such a brilliant joke, since that Bible verse is almost unknown, ha, ha, ha! Tell me, why did your joke get only 90 likes, if you wrote it 2 months before I wrote the same joke? Ha, ha, ha!
@Apóstolo da Razão you just keep saying the same thing, more evidence you could never come up with anything original. Probably because you kept commenting keeping the comment on the top? Idk icc BBC wrote it and moved on, hadn’t remembered till I saw yours, and I was like, didn’t I write the exact thing when this video first dropped.
"Well, about 13.81billion years ago there was a rapid expansion of spacetime, which then cooled, then the 1st Generation of stars began to form........"
Detective: "How do you know Savannah?" Lee: "Once upon along time ago a Trillion years ago something exploded from nothing and all life started, stars, planets, and the primordial soup of life started............. 😂👍 Oh the fable tales of evolution/apetardism.
Lee Rodarte’s sister, Amber Camarillo, 26, is jailed in connection with a 2016 killing at a Jacksonville motel. ( Something must be wrong with their upbringing )
These two cops work together so well, and after the calm and collected opening of the guy the woman is just so incredibly intense. And the commentary of the editor is really good, just enough to help and really interesting. Really fascinating, despite the horrible things being described.
Every so often, I come back to this video just to remind myself what happens if I stray off the moral path. Not that I have any desire to do what he did, but—what a raw capture of human experience.
Haha same here. I watched the pretending to be crazy video 2 days ago and I'm now about 3/4 of the way through all the videos! I'm starting to look at people in a whole new light!
Dude, I had it popping up in my recommended for 3-4 months and I wasn't watching it because it's almost an hour long, but since I work night shifts in front of a laptop, I saw it a few days ago, and now I'm again watching another video (this one) while "working" ;p
Mr wekah wekah I went to "Jennifer's solution" first, but didn't genuinely watch it before I did that video, so same. Although, to be fair, even considering true crime's popularity, I feel I've been a little more invested in it naturally than most.
Well the full interrogation is out AND it's horrific ......and of course sad . To hear exactly what he did is sickening .... It's kinda amazing how well he held it together as long as he did
I really wish there was more information on this case, like the Chris Watts case or something. The full confession was only just released a year ago and it seems to raise more questions than it answers. Was the tire slashed before or after Savannah’s death? How was the coroner not able to establish a cause of death when he admitted to presumably snapping her neck? Was she really on drugs at the time or was it he who was high? I tried looking for any details at all about this case and there’s literally almost nothing.
I cannot fathom killing someone in order to keep a job as a chef... Or any profession. Life was not over bc a girl had a crush and was proud to tell people about it. He had darkness already in him. I'm convinced of that.
@A more than likely it was a couple things A.) The drug use getting out was gonna cost him his job B.) He wanted to sleep with other 21 year old waitresses as well and she was getting in the way.
@Christian Chenevert judging from they're respective pics it's quite possible that lookswise this was the highest quality female company Lee had ever attained.
That must have been some bloody Top tier swank of a job. He must have been racking in the dollar’s. Living the fricken dream, owning the boat man. The Job that keeps on giving. He must have had a spanking whopping pension plan on that bad boy. Such a great job it’s worth the kill. Ummmm 🤔
He probably came from a poverty and dark background, and worked tooth and nail to get to where he was. For him that was mountains of achievement. Not defending him, but summing up the situation like that shows a complete lack of understanding.
@Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition I think it's using the whole name that makes it funny. Like South Park when Cartman kept calling Ross by its full name: Ross Dress For Less.
That's reality for a lot of the poorest people in america today - It's no excuse, but it is something to be expected when people are poor and desperate
All he is doing is whimpering about himself in jail. No sense of decency for the lady or her family. These people just kill young women like it's a small thing.
@micah byce i laughed out loud at the mmmk. Me and my lil bro say that shit to each other all the time. Mmmk mmmmk mmmmk! Lmao. But now i feel like a complete scrub laughing while watching this. But in my defense im kinda reading comments more than watching the bs artist being a self snitch
Tragic for both. To much ego on his side and broken spirit on her side hence the drug addition Regardless of that no one has the right to take the life of the other. Full stop ! ,
most of the murders happen for even less ... you seamed surprised ... its more about disrespecting other people that triggers reactions with fatal consequences not what you have to gain from that or not ... so people should really be very aware of their surroundings and be very carefully when they disrespect someone with a smirk or a wrong word.
That was probably just an excuse bc in his twisted mind it sounded better. He even tried to put all the blame on her by labeling her as a druggie and him as this moral good guy always looking out for her well being. I've worked at countless casual dining restaurants just like the bonefish grill and I can spot these douche bag cooks a mile away.
cassidy slusher do people watch tv bruh they are on camera admitting to crimes terrible man a 90 pound woman can’t do much harm no one deserves to die by another human being rest well 🙏🏾
There could have been something more. It is probable she threatened to disclose more information, such as drug use and probably some other heavy accusations that would/could have destroyed his career in the food industry entirely
😂😂😂😂😂 When I seen this story I said the same thing. And told myself this kinda shit sounds and smells like Florida. Then I seen it was Florida and was like.. Oh....😶😐.....of course!
He didn't murder her to protect his job, or at least not entirely for that. Did none of y'all hear the part in the video where it was said - and I think even Lee says it in the interview with detectives - that he has a girlfriend? Savannah going around telling everyone they smashed - and on more than one occasion - word will inevitably spread to his girlfriend and that would be hell to pay for him.
So I think that realization along with the fact that he'd lose his job, made him feel like he'd lose everything of that "super awesome" life he built himself with his girlfriend and his job at the Bonefish Grill where he's free to pick at his scabs on the clock as much as he wants. Unlike those dicks at Sizzler! So anyways yeah...he knew he had to silence her or his girlfriend would find out about the disloyal bag of dogshit she has for a man. Which I feel like would've just been prolonging the inevitable even if he'd gotten away with it, but stupid is as stupid does.
@Christian Chenevert quite difficult given how often it happens. It makes sense given how often you're around your coworkers. For a lot of people their social life basically revolves around work.
He killed to hold down his bullshit reputation among teenagers that work there for a couple months, meanwhile it was his career. I was a dishwasher at 15 yrs old at places like that and witnessed the same stuff, loser cooks and servers thinking they were gods gift. Eateries are an extension of high school for a lot of their employees.
Was that the motive for the crime? How difficult is it to find a job in the United States? I have heard that in America there is almost no unemployment, right? I’ve been fired many times and haven’t killed anyone yet, despite the fact that in Spain we have one of the highest unemployment rates in Europe. Ridiculous.
I worked there. They have this whole “our fish is fresh never frozen” I asked during a “mandatory” meeting, “where does it come from, though?” My manager just laughed, and said nothing. They make you do this menu presentation for new customers, and every time you perform it a part of your soul dies.
I worked at one of those piece of shot restaurants and that job was horrible. One of our co-workers actually drank himself to death one weekend just so he wouldn’t have to come in. Losing that job would’ve been seen as an act of kindness.
For some individuals it can be a big thing. Maybe for his own standards he was doing extremely well and had fought hard to get where he was. Not justifying his actions, surely, though
@A Of course, his proudest part of that job was likely wielding knives. Nothing against weapons myself, I'm good with knives- I just don't murder innocent, beautiful girls with them. Or anyone, really.
Imagine all went down after the two had engaged in sexual relations. Humans are like any other animal, sex fogs the ability to rationalize the results of our actions.
Why would we imagine ? Is this a joke too you ? Who know's what this guy is suffering from.. i know a guy who killed 3 people and the 4th got lucky because god told him too kill a man he's 40s wearing a pink shirt and by the time finding him police pulled him over on a routine check up just by chance.. there people out there that are sick.. dont judge amd laugh at people because you never know what mite happen too you..for all we know some woman mite kill you for putting on red nail polish that day .. stay safe people and beware of all evil because it is out there
@RENOVATIO drug use is so common in the industry I'm sure he would have been able to get a job elsewhere no problem. Kitchens are full of people like Lee, except they dont kill others.
@Cranky PaperClip not you shaming people and call them loser for having "low" standard according to yours. Dont get me wrong, he's certainly wrong for what he did to Savanah and you can call him loser for that not for him being attached and loving his job the "low" level chef at Bone fish grill. It rubs in the wrong way because there are many people out there have different standard that probably people like you think it's bellow yours, but to them.. it means a lot to them and probably it is indeed the high point of their life to have that job.
I actually think he was the one who didn't want her to dump him. That whole, 'I should have just told her to leave me alone.' was for the camera's benefit.
Even then. Everyone at work already knew and no one really seemed to care. There r plenty jobs where its a rule not to date nd as long as ur not bringing drama or kissing in the work place thy usually dont care. Plus as a grown man. If a little girl was putting u in an uncomfortable situation at work u cn report it. U cn leave the job. U cn ask to transfer. There r so many options. Murder isnt even a solution bcuz now he still lost his job and his freedom over a secret that was ALREADY out. not like she was threatening to expose it. She had already told everyone. Killing her wouldn't take her words back
Imagine murdering an innocent woman just for a petty reason to keep your job at that. A decent human being would've raised his concerns to her. Yes, would have showed that he was egotistical but that's better than just being someone who murdered your coworker for your job
Life tends to flow more smoothly once you stop expecting morons to make rational decisions. Every once in a while, it’s also very awakening to take a moment to remember that people like him carry driver’s licenses.
Watching this a year later and I’m a former server. Girl the real tea is that managers and staff sleep together all the time and get away with it!! If you ever been a server you know it’s really not that big of a deal for 2 employees to be hooking up. He could’ve definitely managed to keep his job especially since HE is a manager. He could’ve just fired her and went on about his life.
My guess is it was a hatred for his mother that caused him to do this. As he said, she started doing hard drugs and he didn't like seeing this. But I don't know, I'm not a psychologist.
@MrBdiddypop Pretty much every restaurant everywhere is staffed by drug addicts, alcoholics, and crusty weirdos. Even Michelin starred places likely have complete lunatics working in the kitchen, albeit cleaner ones. This is largely because of 2 facts:
1- food service doesn't drug test 2- food service is one of the most exploitative industries out there, with some of the lowest pay, the least benefits, intolerable working conditions, and some of the longest hours
Another fun fact, multiple people have likely touched your food with unwashed hands after it was cooked and before it arrives at your table.
As a dad of two daughters I fear for men like this,I train myself and my babys to protect and defend.It was still hard to watch him break down at the end.The detective said it herself"...this is somebody's child" Lee is someone's son.Hopefully one day we can pinpoint why and when someone gets pushed over that line to kill another human.
The line is the lack of restraint, everyone gets stressed and mad and would really love to kill those that put that stress on them but we don't. Some people just indulge and that's it he was only breaking down because he was caught and wasn't smart enough to lie his way out. I get your point he is someone's son but certain people are just plain selfish and evil and like Lee they normally do well in life unfortunately. The best thing you can teach your daughters is how to examine character, how to identify manipulation tactics and things like that because one on one unfortunately a man has advantage in any physical confrontation, best to avoid it. Stay safe brother👍
@Lucifer obviously terrible things will always happen, but we have to contribute into making sure they happen less often. sometimes certain men feel entitled to a woman's body and proceed to lash out when they don't get what they want. terrible beliefs can be taken to terrible conclusions. fighting those terrible beliefs is really the only thing we can do.
@U・ᴥ・U you're missing what I'm saying, I don't believe there's a cure to the men that abuse women or a cure to a women that abuses men there's no cure for anyone that does evil on to other people. They are born and stay that way. I respect you want to protect people by providing information its just in my mind people are themselves and nothing will change them good or bad.
@Lucifer I don't think people are born evil. but they make choices. that ultimately makes them a good or bad person. some people choose that their anger or pride is more important than another human's life. but nobody looks at a child and thinks "yeah that kid is evil". (I will admit that children can be fucked up though lmao). I guess we just have different mindsets, and I respect your opinion as well!
he also said so many details. like what she said before she got into the car, when she took out her phone, how exactly she walked toward the entrance out of the car. the average person doesn’t remember details like these, he clearly had time to think of a script to try to look innocent.
Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors in February and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.
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best comment hahaha. He would've interspersed "up-selling" techniques he taught her at Bonefish, lol. "She's so good at getting customers to add appetizers to their orders, even desserts! I taught her that!".
In my mind, I literally imagined the whole process of him taking out his laptop, the officer turning off the lights, and Lee starting his PPT presentation. Lee - "First of all, I would like thank you both for joining this session .... " 😂😂😂
Criminals are idiots. Everybody knows you don’t talk to the police even if you’re innocent and even more so if you’re guilty. He thought he could be smart and ensnared himself in lies the police could easily prove. That’s how criminals get caught, their own hubris in believing they can outsmart the police by talking.
Rewatching this for maybe the third time. Please don't quit your content is amazing if you choose to go I understand but you're fans will miss you Jim. I also wonder why you can't swim.
It's amazing how these people talk when they can just remain silent. You just have to watch one police movie to know the less you talk the better things are for you.
"How long have you known her?" "Well I was born on a crisp day with autumn leaves starting to fall and my mum was wearing a blue dress and as I grew my first word was dada........"
"Thank you for the great question. I was born in Bulgaria, a country with a financial system on the verge of collapse. At the age of 5, I immigrated with my family to America in search of a better life. I have benefited from all America has to offer and Robinhood's mission to democratise finance for all has a very special significance to me..."
i mean, it’s such a strange judgement to make. if you’re innocent and the cops are interrogating you you’d either get a lawyer immediately or try to give them as much info as you can because you want them to like you lol, you don’t want to go to jail just cause they didn’t know who else to screw over
The minute he opened his mouth it was apparent. Nobody goes into that much detail about something frivolous when someone he supposedly had some feelings for could be laying dead somewhere. He has to do his own redemption maybe exchange his life for the one he took. Nobody's beyond hope but if that was my daughter I think I would want to put him in a chokehold and let him take a dirt nap. But the whole thing was senseless.
I do enjoy these presentations, however, if a person guilty of something is also watching it gives them a clear idea of how to avoid the pitfalls and traps that interrogators will use to get information. My advice would be to lawyer up and say nothing.
You're right! Lawyering up and staying silent is the best bet. Even if it were possible to avoid the traps and the pitfalls, these tactics are psychological and designed for the human consciousness. Could anyone and everyone avoid all this manipulation, especially after committing a heinous crime? You're right about lawyering up though, you always have the right to remain silent
I love when detectives say “we understand, you’re not a bad guy” when they really mean “tell us where she is you sadistic piece of shit so I can get out of this Fkn room”
Imagine acting friendly to someone out of genuine empathy instead of agressively pressuring someone who's clearly reluctant and regretful about what they did, so that you can play the footage of them crying while a narrator says to everyone how much of piece of shit they are to the jury.
What kind of psycopath would NOT psychologically torture someone and manipulate them into gaining your trust, only to break said trust by spitting on their face and calling them all names after the interrogation?
@Armetyz They did say they care about the victim's wellbeing, not the perpetrator's feelings.
I understand where you're coming from, but I'm pretty sure you would have an immediate change of heart if one your loved ones was the victim instead of a random stranger. All sympathy you have for the perpetrator would immediately evaporate.
Unless, of course, you have a better strategy to offer.
@Armetyz You would have a point if two points were true: A.) The officers thought Savvanah was still alive making this pressuring necessary to possibly save her life. And B.) If the guy didn't actually kill her.
Without these points your argument is mute at least for this specific case.
I am not sure if anyone posted the updates, but here is the follow-up:
> Lee Rodarte, the man charged with killing the 21-year-old in 2017, was convicted to 40 years in prison on March 11, 2021.
> According to Action News Jax reports, Lee Rodarte Jr., 31, received his sentence on March 11, nearly three years after he was charged with killing Gold, with whom he worked at a Bonefish Grill in Mandarin. In February, Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.
> Rodarte appeared virtually before 4th Circuit Court Judge Jeb Branham to file the plea agreement made with prosecutors.
> Action News Jax was published in 2019 when Rodarte tried to claim self-defense 2019. His claim was later denied.
> Rodarte was also charged with proof tampering and abusing a body, but those charges were dropped as part of his plea agreement.
> Prosecutors and the defense negotiated a sentence of 40 years in prison with credit for time served.
Yeah, I had an interview with some detectives a couple of years ago regarding the death of someone I worked with, they knew it wasn't foul play and told me that but it didn't stop me from sweating the whole time.
@Meatball Sub Cop's can lie and lawfully get away with it. It's in their best interest to talk with you on record without a lawyer present. I'm glad for you that your interaction with the detectives worked out ok.
That female detective is cringe lmao. Begging for an answer 30 min into an interrogation. Pathetic, even if it is some tactic. They should've told him they can charge him with kidnapping
@a a I agree, I couldn't believe she started pleading with him to help her, number one it immediately puts power in his hands and two why would a killer [regardless of they knew that or not] think of helping anyone else except to preserve themselves? Pointless attempt that looked incredibly desperate.
Never talk to the police before you've talked to a lawayer if you in any way might be considered a suspect. Doesn't matter if you're innocent. Innocent people get locked up all the time. Imagine if you forget about some some small detail or accidently say something wrong. They WILL use it against you.
That’s because they just seek to get a confession out of you regardless of whether you were involved or not. Nobody should trust or talk to them without a lawyer.
That's by design, unfortunately. Detectives that are used to interrogating suspects can often have a more difficult time not seeing EVERYONE through that lens, since they're constantly looking for it.
As others have said, this is why you ALWAYS get a lawyer and NEVER talk to the police without one present. Even if you're 100% innocent, even if you feel like the cops are being "nice". That is ALL part of their training, to lull you into a sense of comfort, like what you're saying to them is okay and no big deal, and that you're just "chatting". Don't fall for that shit!
I wouod never pass any polygraph bc my anxiety is so bad. I hope I never am in a situation like that bc it'll sure look bad. Especially with the content I consume daily lol
@Lily Massey there are plenty of unqualified people in their respective fields, apparently she is one of them. I don't need a degree in psychology to understand that her tactics are subpar, at the least.
bruh Ikr it seems really stressful just by watching the video and when the detective started to ask "where is savannah'' in an aggressive manner I think I would shit my pants even if i was innocent lmao
Neva .... Neva .... NEVA ...talk to the cops ....Thats NOT me saying that ..its recommended by EX cops and Lawyers ...NEAV talk to the cops ...Exercise your right to silence ..exercise your right to have a lawyer present ....
When he relegated Lee to the past tense by saying "tell us, tell us where we can find you, that's how people will remember you", I wouldn't have thought that would be a good tactic. Kind of like saying "tell us the details we need to get the murder conviction, it's all over for you". Is it maybe a good tactic to get people you 100% know are guilty to resign themselves to the fact that their ass is cooked, just spill the rest of it so we can get on with it?
I've been binging these videos but the biggest takeaway I see in all of them is there is no presumption of innocence, that I've seen. The detectives come in for one purpose: confession. And they're not leaving until tbey get it. You could swap out their suits and slacks for SS uniforms and the scene wouldn't look any different.
In this case he was guilty. How many more weren't.
Persuasion of innocence is something that courts and juries need to do. The investigator's job is to build the strongest case possible against the most likely suspect. Its a two sided coin. One side starts with the assumption they are innocent and the other side starts with the assumption they are guilty. Then in court they compare their two narratives and see which matches the evidence better.
@SeiberKatt A two sided coin is needed to determine the truth. Without people doing the work of attempting to prove guilt then nobody would be convicted of anything. In order to do the digging required to uncover all the evidence you need to have some personal belief they are guilty. That's because someone who believes in the innocence of the subject would stop investigating unless the evidence was immediately obvious to all. There is a reason why investigators aren't on the jury or aren't the judge. We can't live in a fantasy world where everyone assumes the best in all people.
The hunt for the truth requires you to not just assume they are innocent. From there you build your case to present to someone who is instructed to assume innocent until proven guilty.
I'm not saying the system is perfect. Its not, there are plenty of problems. However, unless you want to live in a world where most murders are never solved, there needs to be someone that attempts to prove guilt. The assumption of innocence needs to exist in a court room. However, forcing an assumption of innocence on investigators would handcuff them to a point of uselessness.
Ever thought it strange how American people say "addicting" while British people say "addictive"?. Also how American people say "normalcy" while British people say "normality"?. Or how American people say, for example, "I could care less what you think" while British people say "I couldn't care less what you think"?
@Clarence Boddicker I've lived in both England and America for years and I can say without a doubt that people in both places say both those things....
Aurora Symphony I’m a subscriber to their Patreon but there’s some real gold on these free YouTube uploads. It’s hard for me to realize I have to wait for new content, but it’s like waiting for Christmas all over again.
@Clarence Boddicker People in America say "I couldn't care less what you think." Saying, "I could care less what you think," makes nos sense. The people who say that are uneducated or don't think about what it is they are actually saying.
You all should subscribe to his patreon. Its $1 a month and has an in review amount of content on there. He’s the only content creator I support on any platform.
@Clarence Boddicker There are many differences between 'textbook' British English and taught US English (not going to include colloquialisms on either side, hence 'textbook / taught'). I'm 'well-spoken' British, however my mother went to a predominantly American school in 'Cold War' Berlin where her Air Force father worked, and my 'significant other' is American, so this is a daily issue in my family as you can imagine! The last comparisons you use though, l can only put down to a case of misinterpretation that has become 'habit'... if you COULD care less, that is saying that you DO actually care to some amount, as there is the ability to care less than you do at that point. Whereas if you COULDN'T care less, it is saying that you DON'T care at all, therefore it's impossible to care less. My personal pet peeve is the use of THEN vs THAN... the first is an adverb meaning a moment in time, the other is a preposition that is used as a comparison against something else...! Any time it gets ridiculous my mother swears she found me on the doorstep!! (despite the fact l'm her 'MiniMe') 😄😁😄
"That chapter" is also extremely good if you people are into this kinda stuff. Shorter videos but a lot of really good content covering this type of stuff.
It's not as deep into the psychology but very well done. And tons of videos I binge watched those videos and I'd say there's probably 40+ hours of videos. Check em out if you're looking for other good content
I have been literally addicted since I watched one episode out of pure accident , did even mean to click it but HOLY SMOOKEES was up until 4am and now it’s on to another one! Lol very fascinating channel. I’m already hooked on dateline 2020 48hrs etc but THIS is something beyond our comprehension that’s why it’s so intriguing!!
It's too bad that JCS doesn't post on youtube anymore because youtube keeps censoring his videos. But, between JCS and Mr Ballen, probably the two best personalities on youtube.
Not all people who go into full details when asked open ended questions are guilty. My youngest son and I are both like that. We cannot help it. That female investigator is nerve wracking as hell! Innocent people would confess to a crime just to get her to shut the hell up. I also find it scary how manipulative law enforcement are.
I would love to see like the difference in a same image of a person lying with his body movements, and statements, at the same time, and a person telling the truth. A person that has nothing to hide. 2 different person's, in a same video, but 2 different cases. Idk how to explain myself, but hopefully u understood me and make a video to show us the difference, and how detectives know when their lying or being honest. Please sir. Can you do this? Please? 🙏
There was one To Catch A Predator where the dude walked for miles and miles, just to be met by Chris Hanson and the police LOL. His last hours of freedom were spent walking to the place where he would ultimately be arrested.
The interrogator really needed Samual Jackson on his team: "SAY UHM AGAIN MOTHAFUCKA! DO THEY SPEAK ENGLISH IN UHM! SAY UHM AGAIN ONE MORE MOTHAFUCKIN TIME!"
JENofMN imagine they were slammed too. Super stressed in the weeds all shift, finally get through the rush, get the last ticket done and step out for a smoke.
@Bernard Brunu You still get your paycheck. You just can't use it for much while in prison. If you ever get out, you can use it at that point, after inflation has had its way with it.
It's actually pretty sad watching him break down like that, no matter how horrible what he did was. I couldn't tell you how much remorse he actually has for the woman he killed, as opposed to how sorry he feels just for himself, but it's clear he regrets it and acknowledges that even those she "was a bitch" to him, she had been nice to him too. They had good times, but obviously he got very anger at her, enough to kill her, which is probably why it "makes no sense" to him how he could like Savannah and hate her enough to take her life at the same time. You don't get to see internal struggle like this so, well, externally.
I watch ALOT of true crime channels. I hear mixed reviews on the way a suspect talks. Some say the more a suspect talks, the more guilty. Some say the less said, the more guilty. I’ve noticed on my own that I think in the instances on the suspect talking on and on, you have to listen to what they are saying. I think if a suspect rambles yet gives details in vivid color up to and including info about the senses (sound, smell, taste, feel, etc) they very well could be telling the truth. But that’s just my own opinion and that’s why I’m leaving comments on YouTube and they are in the interrogation room.
I think a lot of interrogators may take personality into account. There are cues you can pick up on in their words and body language to determine if it’s a personality trait or an act.
Makes me sick thinking about how many of these guys are out there free. Maybe they’re cooking at your favorite restaurant. Props to these detectives for their professionalism. Can’t say enough about them.
That lady interrogator out of her emotional outburst made things unfavourable to the justice that Savannah could have got if that interrogator had not outrightly confronted and begged to Lee , instead she should waited on and on....😔
@Watson 98 I think her emotional behavior is intentional to play off the male detective’s calm demeanor. Having someone emotionally scream at you is anxiety inducing especially when you’re guilty of something that means you’ll spend the rest of your life in prison. It clearly worked because he admitted to bringing Savannah to his house right after the female detective was the most emotional and hostile toward him.
From a former heroin addict, you don’t get paranoid. It gets to the point where it is literally all you care about and will do it anywhere and everywhere you can. Not buying the story of her being paranoid..
19:20. Just note how open and gesture dense his body language was prior to the "what happened to your neck?" question. But when he was responding to it, he froze. This is a limbic stress response to perceived threat, and it's a deviation from the baseline behaviour. The dude is not a bad liar, if you don't fact-check it's believable what he says
1DaTJones No sorry: I’m a bit rubbish with computers and I have an I Pad so that barely even counts as a computer! Look up UK crime documentaries on YouTube. 24 Hours in Police Custody is a good one.
I don’t understand how they can send cameras to Mars and beam back extremely clear pictures but almost every CCTV camera is shite. Most of them still use B&W for goodness’ sake!
Tyson Q - that’s cost prohibitive tho. Expensive. Law enforcement only needs the audio to confirm what was said for court. They don’t need high resolution close ups on faces. This is an interrogation. Not a soap opera. It’s not entertainment for viewers
@Dante Good A lot of Jim's work focuses on body language including facial expressions, hi-res would be beneficial, even just for training new detectives. You're right about cost, it's probably storage that would take up the most money as they likely have to store all footage they've ever recorded.
@loveutill theendoftimes I'm sure there's a lot of important things that go into an investigation, with the record of witness and suspect interrogations being pretty high up on that list.
Why the hell do we need HD interrogation video? What do we need to see? We need better audio quality. They should put acoustic tiles on the walls or something and use better microphones. We need HD CCTV cameras instead, in parking lots, street corners, and ATM's so we can capture better evidence of the crime happening. Can't see shit in these grainy videos, and that's what we need to see.
You don’t need a high-res camera to demonstrate in court that the confession was given voluntarily and not beaten out of the suspect which is why they’re there in the first place.
Also, high spec stuff is expensive if meant to work 18 hours a day in a copshop interrogation room for the duration of expected use. People who procure tech for police departments need to balance the cost to the taxpayer with durable products that need little maintenance, which won’t break down, and an expected service life often counted in decades.
@Eddie L but I dont understand this, a 1080p wifi camera is $30. I bought 4 1080p cameras for my home and got a deal at $100. They're even super clear in night vision. Theres no excuse when they're that cheap the last 5yrs.
@Lucky 44 because these cameras are running 24/7, it would take enormous amount of data storage and bandwith to have every security camera run at 1080p for years
Truth is, the resolution is good enough for any legal aspect. They won't be replaced until they break, and even then they'll probably be replaced by a unit of similar quality that is compatible with the central system doing the recording.
@high horse idk where you're from but here in Norway you are only allowed to keep cctv footage for up to 7 days, 30 days at some bank and at military, police, and municipal places....
This is not a response to you directly but in general to this thread. it's still a huge amount of data though, not only for storage but processing too. Most major companies with bigger surveillance (like a mall or bigger retail) also implement offsite backup because that's the proper way to do it, so double that storage space... suddenly yeah 4k 120fps ultra crips CCTV of the back door doesn't seem that useful, not even with record on motion options.
Some people think bandwidth and storage is free, fyi for the people talking about mars, they also upload that footage at a around 500bits, to 32kbit per seconds. so the way they do it is take the pictures store them on the rover and then transmit that data over a period of hours, days, weeks and months.
Assuming Hulu quality of 1080p video (around 1.4Mpbs low quality "1080p" aka heavy compression) that's 578MB every hour of every day, in my country that would require 97GB per camera to film for 7 days... PER CAMERA, then you need to take into account that you need redundant drives, high quality drives, the network, the processing power to eventually process or "seek" through the footage when needed.... yeah I'm not paying for that shit, neither is Wizrd or any body else that knows how demanding CCTV really is...
Eddie L Dang what you say makes a lot of sense. Cars will have a zillion cameras and sensors. If police can work this datapool, plus the cellular phone data, they can solve a further gazillion cases. Very fascinating.
You’d think they’d have the funding for this since 4K DVR systems are pretty cheap. Even if they had to drop it to 1080p they could fit the entire case and all footage on a $20 64GB flash drive. I mean they have fucking tanks right? Priorities are all fucked up.
@Eternal Reign how about facial reactions, micro reactions...there is a plethora of things that a very high resolution camera can catch in a split second that can assist further in court cases and even the interviewers themselves when replaying the interrogation.
The reason why interrogation rooms, gas stations, parking lots, etc have bad quality is probably just because it would take up less memory to store footage then if it was 1080p, which in the long run means less money on server or physical storage etc
They need them to run pretty much continually and store the footage, it probably is 480-720p or some shit, then as it gets copied, shared rendered uploaded, it loses a lot of it's original quality/definition. Even original 480 looks good on small SD monitors.
Storage is too expensive for that to feasible is the reason. People don't understand the costs behind having a shit ton of cameras up and the storage power that it requires to hold them for x-amount of time.
All they really need is 480p to identify people and evidence plus it would take an insane amount of storages to store thousands of hours of footage on 1080p
Based on the way things are going, Google and Facebook will be able to predict crimes and will charge the government for that data, but interrogation rooms will still be in 240p.
Dont worry the cameras installed are really good quality. But you know how much GIG space a good quality video is. And if you have tons of these you need to have a big storage. Well people cut budget so therefore they install cheap and the smallest storage systems. So the ppl that install it need to lower the quality as much as possible. So ye.. 1080p cameras are installed but they all run on shit quality to have more quantity.
Surveillance cameras are crap too. Why not use Gopros? They’d solve a lot more crimes if it weren’t “a man who seemed to have brown hair can faintly be seen leaving the car.”
@Dante Good It's not though, storage costs was the original excuse, but it's 2020 now, not 1950, 1TB is like 30 bux these days, if even that. It would cost like 100k to store a century of footage.
@Kris Smiley that's true. I have set up many security systems as of late. Getting a good camera is about 800$ vs a decent one at about 100$ dollars, there is a huge difference. Many people opt into a 60$ or less camera for their setup and wonder why the quality is complete shit. Prices vary of course, but there is a huge gap between the middle of the ground systems and up.
i am not sure why people are still so dumb to answer any questions from the police. whether you are guilty or innocent, NEVER, EVER talk to the police. this concludes my ted talk.
Mindrolling You have a good point, but unmanned space programs are expensive, but don’t get the attention that manned spaced flight does. Remember how a mistake in manufacturing the main lens nearly wrecked the Hubble Space Telescope. Fortunately a crew was able to correct the error, and we have learned a tremendous amount from those images.
Here, there are human eyes and ears right in the room. There are no human eyes on Mars, so learning anything depends on those cameras working, and reveling detail.
But I agree that there should be higher quality cameras here, because if someone is going to analyze body language, a higher resolution would help.
Or 4k! So we can see the beads of sweat as they form on a suspect's forehead. But not on the street corners, because ya gotta at least give them a chance to get away with it lol
@Dante Good high resolution close ups on faces reveal micro expressions, which are useful to interviewers, that may have been unnoticed without high quality images.....
Is there any reason or purpose behind why so many police/surveillance cams in stores like this are such bad video quality?Outdated equipment yet to be replaced or limited funding?
E It was a little odd to be honest , I was thinking I know they do the good cop bad cop in interrogation . But at one point it sounded like the female detective was crying . That’s something I’ve never seen .
Its not only a matter of camera as that is a one off purchase. The main problem is cost of video storage as they must keep the interrogation recordings stored for a really long time.
@Mindrolling it's not that they cant record these interrogations in ultra high definition, they most certainly can. The real issue is storage fees. Something people usually dont think about, but the file sizes of raw HD videos are just still so massive, that they need to be compressed down to store onto blu Ray's, dvds, etc. The time and cost of storing raw HD video, compressing and converting it down to a manageable size for ease of transfer, like in a FOIA request such as how this channel gets its videos, for the entirety of the USA police forces interrogation rooms alone, would run in the billions. And in all honesty, it's a waste of taxpayer dollars for better video of a guy confessing to killing someone for 5hrs, whichs primary purpose is in court, and then its saved as public record.
NASA probes have 1 mission. That mission takes months or years to get to where its going, and then spends a few minutes or hours at most in orbit around a planet, transmitting back data and video/photos, before it is burnt up in the planets atmosphere as it slowly falls closer and closer. Those single probes cost millions and millions of dollars to make, millions more to launch, and millions more to get that pretty photo sent back to earth, through a system of satellites and radio telescopes across the globe and in space, that cost untold billions to establish. But that's their only job. The police have thousands of cases a year which budgets need to be divested into, not all of them murder confessions.
@high horse whose cameras are running 24/7? It depends who you're even talking about. For starters, the OP's comment was a joke. Second, most businesses don't NEED hard drives big enough to record for more than a month, and some even a couple of weeks. Thats why when a crime is committed police habe to get in touch with business owners ASAP bc the average business with CCTV only has the last 2-4 weeks recorded, so each day that passes becomes a chance of losing whatever was recorded.
Now if you're talking about the police interrogation rooms, that could vary tremendously.
Mindrolling you mean you prefer not to be lied to by the police , known as entrapment . I have had to give witness statements as a victim twice and police do like to move seats around , or rooms and even when typing up the statement of mine with the Detective , they make sure I’m still positioned in a corner so I feel like I can’t leave or even ask to go to the toilet, which I did and also had many “cigarette breaks , I don’t smoke but they don’t know that , so I would leave and come back and I don’t feel intimidated anymore by police . They are trying to be actors ...with a lot less pay and a more dangerous work environment .
Dante Goodman but Dante have you seen the amazing clear footage on current body cams ? Like the officer that attended Chris Watts house , and Lori Daybelle’s ex husband had an officer turn up to his home and the PO had a body cam too , with great audio and video ! I’ve seen amazing hidden camera footage from surveillance of a suspect or when interrogating a suspect instead of wearing a wire they can put an HD pin size camera ,, it’s just what does that particular local council budgets for the police ....
@Mindrolling US uses REID, which is more "Entertaining" then the UK "PEACE" Interrogation. REID basically is an interview technique that seek confession, while PEACE is an interview technique that seek "The Truth"
Also worth notice that it is illegal if you do what they do in this video in the UK, they outlawed the REID Interrogated technique i think since 1980s.
@Song Writer63 What the UK Police do is similar to a Q and A session with the suspect, you cannot ask anything other than what related to the case to the suspect, you ask the suspect a summary, then present evidence to counter the suspect story and ask them for the reason for the discrepency, you are not allowed to intimated the suspect, chichat or do anything you see on this video and you have to sit across the suspect the whole time with the Lawyer sat next to the suspect.
Basically UK Police Video is very boring....
You can just type UK Police Interview on youtube and you will find tons of those video..
yea no kidding. i love how they can change police vehicles every few years costing millions upon millions of dollars but cant spend 1000 dollars for each station to have quality cameras.
@Billy Bob Bobson Huh Obviously it would be more interesting with a clearer image on his face, even only to see more the facial expressions, blinks, eye contact etc.
@Billy Bob Bobson Don't play the idiot, the video is interesting even in low quality, but if you're interested in analyzing the psychology of someone, expressions, eyes movement and tiny details are as relevant as verbal and body posture, gestures etc.
maybe they are cheaper by then to fill 1029382109381203812093812391823091283103983102381038232 police rooms AND all over the world to film evidence for everything
@Tyson Q a facial expression does not evidence make. and these people are trained to spot abormalities that would suggest guilt, they know full well what to look for. capturing every movement or contortion of the face is not the relevant part of body language here.
@edubble17 Sure do "buddy". Here's a comment I posted 9 months ago in response to someone who brought up the topic of storage much less passive aggressively: "You're right about cost, it's probably storage that would take up the most money as they likely have to store all footage they've ever recorded."
@Lucky 44 it's mostly about the storage space I think. 1080p video just isn't worth the cost of storage, even in 2020 for something like this. These videos are actually worse than 480p DVD quality (pop in a DVD someday and you'll be surprised at how much better it looks than this) so even proper 480p with a higher bitrate would be a noticable improvement technically, but effectively? There's little real world benefit to having high resolution video of this nature. Will the standard be 1080p someday? Almost certainly. Is it needed? Probably not.
@Library Of Thoughts Why would law enforcement care about lowering the resolution of a video if they are releasing it to public domain and identities are not being protected? The reason the video is low resolution is space, like many other people have said. Make sure you know what you’re talking about before calling someone stupid next time.
@Brandon Depending on compression/bitrate you can get an hour of 1080p video down to 300 mb. Google One has a service where you can store 2 TB of data for $140 a year. Using these numbers you could roll a camera 24/7 in a room and it would only cost you $184 a year. Realistically though the police would not be using Google services because 1. Privacy issues and 2. Google is obviously charging more than it costs to store your data as they are a business. Setting up local servers inside the police station would be an upfront cost but be even cheaper than using Google One in the long run. Multiply $184-ish by however many interrogation rooms you have in an office, and subtract the hours of the day that the camera does not have suspects in it, and I don't think the cost would be unfeasible for a government funded operation.
@Lucky 44 data storage for 1080p is no joke because of the amount of detail required to be stored...for an hour of videos, I'm talking over a gigabyte. Take and multiply hours an investigation could last.
@Mindrolling it’s because security cameras have to record data 24/7 it’s much easier and cheaper to store 480p video because it’s a smaller file. 1080p video has files that are like 4 times bigger.
Jeez man, 4K at LEAST, assuming you want full identification instead of jsut a few useful features like hair color/style, clothes, and basic facial info if they’re fairly clos
@PWRFL surveillance cameras are a weird one cause generally they either work on a 24(or more or less idk) hour loop and just keep recording over the last loop which degrades the film, or if it's digital you gotta realize that 24 hours straight of 1080p is a HUGE file
People think it’s easy to have a 4K camera record months of footage lol They use 2mp or 4mp because it’s takes up less memory after 6 months or so it could take up to 8TB of memory. Which is a lot. Imagine a 4K camera. It could add up to 100TB easily.
@hhhhhh 4K footage can be quite tiny (H.265, the standard for YouTube videos) or quite big (VLOG, high dynamic range and lots of colour info). It can also be compressed to be stored. It would be simple and not that expensive to set up if they prioritized it.
Do you know how big would be this hour of record in 1080full hd? They would have to save and delete all footages every day... Thats why... the same is in cameras in airplanes, trains...
@Penguinable Dude videography is my job. 1080p video can be compressed down to a few mbs for storage. There are more variables than just resolution that contribute to how big a video file is. Data storage is not as expensive as it was even a year ago when I made the original comment. What are you basing your opinion on, a gut feeling?
And on the Pentagon lol I'm not a conspiracy guy but that 9/11 security footage was ridiculous lol
I had just got my first job at a shitty little convenience store and their cameras were so shit but somehow still 10 times better then the fucking Pentagon!
People would kill for a job at bonefish grill is my take after seeing this. Are we sure this isn't some elaborate scheme by bonefish grill to get applicants?
One of those situations where you KNOW he's guilty, you KNOW he knows where she is, but you can't legally beat the truth out of him. Perfect timing for a security camera malfunction....
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Fred Manson2022-06-29 05:15:22 (edited 2022-06-29 05:18:53 )
I’ve never seen an interrogator act as unhinged as this female investigator. Pretty effective though. This dude could’ve got away with this easily. All he had to do was ask for a lawyer. He’d be out walking around.
funny you should say that.. me and the boys downtown have a few questions to ask you. we need you to come with us down to the station. you got a unpaid parking ticket.
If you don't know what happened then you'd be able to talk your way out of looking guilty. They know how a guilty person behaves. The "how long have you known her" question, that should have taken 10 seconds tops, but took over 5 minuttes, is a dead give away.
Don't worry, life comes at you fast as fuck you probably will be guilty, oh my comment didn't help your anxiety. Nah but every time I go through an airport I get "randomly" selected every time for a search because I'm anxious lol and thats on xanax im trying my best
@Sanne G That's not precisely true. Innocent people can and do sometimes talk themselves into a jail cell. It's surely not a big portion, or so we hope, but it does happen.
@Raycloud That's not because people accidentally talked themselfes into prison, that's because the cops don't have any real leads, so they just go for the first and the best "suspect" they can get their paws on. If you were on the incident site, but you don't have an alibi, yeah, then you can talk yourself into prison, but how often does that happen? Like for real, 1 out of a 10.000 times I guess. So yeah, I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's highly unlikely that you can talk yourself into prison, when you're being truthful. :)
cops know the difference between the things, there are small differences in your actions between being nervous of being caught or being nervous of being accused
Roughly 10% of the prison population are innocent. Which means, we're likely to be apart of that percentage. Look at it this way. It's complete bullshit when they say your innocent until proven guilty. Once your in court, people automatically assume your guilty. Or why else would you be there, they would think.
There is actually another video on this same channel that speaks more to that exact scenario. Its really interesting but they explain how even introverted and naturally nervous people that they call the uncommon subject will react differently in an interrogation when they are innocent than if they were guilty
Yea everytime narrator says an innocent person would say this or say that I fear I'd be the one who acts unconventional. There has to be anomalies out there that give off the guiltiest vibes but are innocent.
@Cayde-00 These vids are all with obvious guilty parties, but it would be great to see an interrogation where the person is NOT guilty, and do they succumb to the same pressure of admission. I don't understand how "they have the right to remain silent" and then they break them down into talking.
@P.M.C. Spartan I don’t care. Remember I’m “Karen” and Karen don’t care she offended you also your on you tube literally trying to talk up crazy women - your story is hard to believe and I’ll tell you typically if a woman says a man beat her it wasn’t her who beat herself. Why even share this story? It’s such a niche never gonna happen scenario and chances of it happening like you said are so tiny- most women who say they’ve been beat HAVE. The truth always comes out- if you are innocent it comes to light. did you really think a Karen comment wouldn’t surface? Find somewhere else to fan your victim story or expect “Karen “ to boo you
@whitney livingston obviously you do or why care enough to read let alone comment your opinion. I don't care if you don't believe me. I don't owe you shit.
@P.M.C. Spartan it was the longest comment on the thread so I read it - and it’s not about believing you- it’s why did you post it? Was it to say a man has no power if a woman wants to frame him? Or was it for sympathy? Why? Because to me it frames women in a bad light and tries to shine men in a victimized position because of his strength and the stigma that comes with “hitting a girl” - also ... of course we care or this dialogue wouldn’t be happening but it’s WHAT we care about that I feel may difffer- I’m not victim shaming you I’m just confused why you chose THIS type of video to say women do beat themselves up and here’s my proof. I’m sorry for trolling your story.
I brought it up because I felt the topic of discussion was and is relatable. Not to seek empathy nor sympathy or to bash women but to warn others that it's very much a possibility. From what I've gone through myself. Others can look back at this and remember that any person can be easily mistaken as a liar just as I have. People from all walks of life have spent days, months, years. Even decades in prison for crimes they didn't commit. Roughly 10% of the incarcerated are actually innocent. I'm just thankful to be sharing my story with others. I apologize for calling you a Karen.
I think this sometimes and then remember we have a fight or flight reaction that would kick in to make us rise to the occasion and literally fight for our lives to prove our innocence. Easier said than done im sure but it's something
Damn, I'm even afraid when I enter a store where there are scanning machine, anxiety goes up especially when leaving. I'm well aware I'm not guilty of any shit but the feeling still lingers.
That isnt really a concern unless youre not guilty but youre also a sociopath lmao. It’s natural to be afraid. And a lawyer is needed always because some people can be very unprofessional as well.
nah I'm trained in giving these kind of interviews, and we would probably know, because there are multiple complicated ways an innocent person vs a guilty person would act, what they would say, how they say it, etc. it's hard to entirely perfectly replicate a guilty profile when you are not actually guilty
@ErinNicole Best advice period. However if it was something that was time sensitive (missing child, kidnapping etc) I would probably talk without a lawyer so they can get off they ass and into the next lead or suspect.
When i watch these i feel like half the shit they do, guilty or not, is so stupid i would do everything better than them, but i know they must be soooo nervous
honestly either I would completely shut down like the stephen mcdaniel case, either I would be laughing my pants off seeing detectives trying to get something out of me when I'm completely innocent
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The only thing JCS has ever been wrong about is his comment about him crying. His circumstances don't make it easier to see him weep. His circumstances make me love the weeping. He is, of course, weeping for himself and his consequences. Shame will hit hard when he sees anyone who knows him. I'd love the credits to scroll over video of each murderer weeping in an interrogation room after breaking. I swear it's the sound of light rain or waves in the distance. It's the sound of knowing you can lie down several women in a bowling alley and then you can be all extra with it.
Look, I realize an Adderall isn't exactly gonna put you in another dimension, but why do they even bother asking if you're under the influence of drugs or alcohol, if they're just gone continue with the interrogation while you're under the influence of drugs or alcohol?
@Ano nymous exactlyyyyyy. I’ve been in a situation where I ended up in an interrogation room for something I didn’t do. Someone literally stabbed themselves in front of me and the emotions that you go through once you end up in that room!? A law abiding citizen!? “Do I appear too educated, therefore, manipulative?” “Am I not being forthcoming enough or too much?” All the while, not even knowing if someone is alive or dead. Thank goodness the person lived and told the ambulance driver what they did, but if they’d died, seeing all the assumptions made, understandable as they are, doesn’t matter what I said, how I’d behaved - if they’d died, I’d be behind bars. Period. This shit is scary.
The way the female interrogator asks questions is so different to the usual male interrogators we see. A lot more emotional appeal and really making the suspect feel guilty.
Ofc he was talking alot about that shit... He felt guilty AF at that moment bc he killed her and wanted to get rid of some guilt feeling by confessing smaller things. Also he's on Adderal.
@Ses Pez it’s from the Jeff video! He’s a heroin addict who was booked for armed robbery and told the detective he’d only talk if he got his coke and butterfinger. He got his coke and didn’t talk without the butterfinger🤣
Hear me out before you start hating. The level of anguish and hopelessness he must be feeling right after they leave and he starts breaking down is almost unbearable to watch. I can’t imagine knowing that your past 25 years up until 30 minutes ago were completely free and then the next 50 are going to be completely imprisoned. That’s insane.
He could have rebutted with...do you want the short story or the long story? That in return gives him power to appease exactly what they want without him seeming on a level of suspicion given if his response was short or long.
@jiien 666 ... the detectives don’t give 2 fuck what drugs you’ve done. They leave that to state troopers and common cops. They’re after people who take lives.
@Arcade-Eyes police interrogation is a finely tuned craft that is so highly complex that the average criminal has no clue that he's giving himself away with every word he utters.
That's what tripped me out. When you're so willing to quickly confess to SO many crimes, I'm automatically thinking there must be something much worse that you aren't confessing to.
@Mary is Sound I used to love those old Columbo shows because within the first 10 minutes he's already onto whose done it by simply looking at who has motive and in many cases its the one whose reaction to the event or the questioning is way "off" or "inappropriate". This blabbermouth might as well be wearing a shirt saying "I did it"!
This dude IS the dude that Tom Segura talks about in his "First 48" bit. Lol! "Well, so-n'-so says you were wearing a blue shirt!" "Yeah... I shot that guy 5 times..." Dude, lie. Lie for longer.... A lot of people have blue shirts, man!"
@Michaela Shoemaker I think that's why he wouldn't cooperate. "Fuckers, I was supposed to get a coke AND a butterfinger, just give me a coke ok. Still don't know what you're talking about." 😂😂😂
ᘺӨᏝᖴ ᘻØOᘉ one addy? It's more than that, it's his guilty conscious thinking that he'd be able to talk himself out of the murder he committed. That adderrall would not have lasted that long and his physical motions do not match his supposed non-stop talking caused by the adderall you're trying to claim.
Lee: "Well i did light and hard drugs. I paid for hookers. I dated my coworkers which is against the rules. I drove under influence of both alcohol and drugs, light and hard. I robbed my roomate, stole from my parents and then we met at work"
Lmfao yeah true probably Bc he wanted it to seem like those are the worse things he’s ever done and act like he’s getting all the skeletons out of his closet. Little did he know he was further incriminating himself
if Youtube's the problem, istg you could upload your new videos to vimeo or whatever and i'd happily watch $10 worth of ads just to watch your amazing content
Detective: How long have you known Savannah? Lee: According to all known laws of aviation, a bee should not be able to fly. Its wings are too stubby to get its fat little body off the ground. Of course, the bee flies anyway, because bees don't care what people think is impossible.
It's almost cinematic the way the video cuts off before his confession and then cuts to the aftermath. I think its much more intense to see his reaction and not know exactly what was said.
That's because he let's the evidence, interrogations and all public evidence speak for itself instead of giving a shitty summed up story. He also examines the suspects body language and the way they speak and seems to be very knowledgeable in the forms of interrogation himself. Also he's such a good narrator
@Thr3 month restart I'm checking all thse I haven't heard out! Thanks! Also, when you said Monsters, could that be this is MONSTERS? Jiles a.k.a this is MONSTERS is awesome!
I'm very curious, how come the police wouldn't release the admission of guilt part of the interrogation? Like what was the reasoning behind that decision?
I think he would have killed regardless of this situation if it happened or not. He fits the narcissistic traits. The chef job he had was easy way for him to prey on young women at his workplace. And he was used to getting what he wanted. When he didn't, he killed her. What a POS. Should be in prison for life.
Imagine waking up next day thinking for 0.5sec it was bad dream
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Slice of Life2022-02-22 01:03:26 (edited 2022-02-22 01:10:58 )
@Ansa Pectoralis but why? Also he got up to go to the bathroom before the interview started and came back 3 minutes later. So unless they anticipated him taking 3 mins to pee, I don't think it was intentional.
"Probably not the best advertisement for the Bonefish Grill if their head chefs are peeling their scabs off at work." This was just the best freakin' statement that I have ever heard. (And just a side note, I have personally had negative experiences at Bonefish Grill - twice. The first time the waiter was just a total @sshole and acted completely irritated by our presence and having to actually do his job. The second time, I slipped on the very, VERY smooth and slippery tile floor at the entrance. It wasn't wet AT ALL. The material was just too damn slick! Not exactly the greatest choice for a very high traffic area. The hostess helped me up and actually said "This happens all the time." Ummmm... THAT'S a problem! A major one! "This happens ALL THE TIME" ??? This may sound like an outlandish idea but... maybe, I dunno, rip the tiles out and put down a floor material that ISN'T an ice rink? If they haven't already been sued (multiple times), I absolutely guarantee they will be.)
I wondered what his sentencing was and im kinda dissapointed ''Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors in February and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.''
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Max Ryan2022-05-13 20:07:29 (edited 2022-05-13 20:07:34 )
“Last time you get to wear a chefs coat” nah man im sure the prisons need experienced chefs. You got a lifetime contract!
That was THE MOST CHILLING AND HORRIFYING PART !!!
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i Ritefita2021-07-06 20:14:42 (edited 2021-07-06 20:15:05 )
lol =) emarythomp: I watched all of them in like 2 days IntheCiTY: That was THE MOST CHILLING AND HORRIFYING PART !!! me: damn. what pretending to look crazy looks like
@Lentin Tarantino Hahaha 😂 I just started too! Started with faking crazy (obviously 😂) and only been a couple days and this is probably my 10th vid or so. Any specific one anyone recommend?😁😁😁
It’s a credit to her family that they knew something was not right straight up. So terribly sad for them that their worst fears were realised. And that the perpetrator was this sorry sack of shit.
18:10 I disagree with it having no importance, since the further he gets him into the disproven alibi the less wiggle room he has later and the more he can be shown to be a liar to the jury
Those detectives were lucky - they got him to confess because he was not the sharpest tool in the shed. Certainly not due to any skillful interrogation tactics.
Judging by the fact that he used his own car, didn’t know that there were cameras on the parking lot, and came there high on adderall, it’s evident that he studied at the “Chris Watts School for hopelessly dumb murderers”.
@Shíshǒu INTP-A he really could've gotten himself a lighter sentence if he admitted before the investigation started and said it was self defense, also not burning the body would've helped the self defense claim. Same I don't think he planned the murder but I wonder why he wanted her in the car in the first place.
@Simi Probably didn't plan to kill her and just wanted to talk. If I had to guess, I'd say he probably got emotional and lost his ability to think clearly and logically in anger? fear of consequences? His last remarks after confessing seem to suggest that he loved her and unfortunately it is not uncommon for obsessed man to end up hurting their partners.
@keremcantarhan Plus heightened emotions because of whatever he was on. The fact they fought for good amount of time and she tries opening the door to exit three times, idk.
It definitely seemed premeditated given the luring into the car, the texts, the home made firepit and the dumping of the body by the lake. These aren't things one goes through if they accidentally commit a murder. Even the texts alone required him to one come up with a story of what to say and then use the poor girls fingers or face to unlock the phone assuming he didn't know the pin. There's no way something like that just happened out of nowhere.
Smart criminals don't get caught which is why most documentaries like these the story is of someone who slipped up somewhere and there's evidence tying them to the murder/s. Given he literally lured her into his car you can only assume he didn't know about the CCTV which is easy to do, cameras are everywhere. But he was either going to kill her in the car there and then or take her somewhere else to do it and things escalated. Either way wasn't very well planned out.
@Sam Trott it only really works if you are a professional criminal, if you need to murder someone that you know, because you have ties to the person it's way easier to get caught
@Shíshǒu INTP-A That! If you kill someone and really didn't mean it and did it on accident, call an ambulance and hand yourself in. Don't speak to the cops before you speak to your lawyer, but show regret and be cooperative. That's how you get a 20 year sentence which, although still regrettable, is certainly much better than life in prison, especially if you're young, since in that case it's really possible you might turn your life around.
The impulse control in that situation isn't just because they have low IQ or whatever it's more linked to the effect the circumstance has on them it's often more complex than them just being stupid
@The Enigma Its really funny how if you add the word 'just' to any statement then it becomes false.
If your going to play that game then I could as easily pretend that your saying its just circumstances and nothing else and then repeat your argument back to you.
@Edda233 listen, this ain't a subject where I'm gonna have a back and forth petty arguement where you try to pick apart the structure of what i say and i go "BuT aCtUaLlY" and it spirals into spelling mistakes and grammar problems. I used the word "just" to emphasize a point, do you want a prize for noticing that or do you want to actually take the argument seriously (which really should be the case with this subject) and stop acting like someone from r/iamverysmart who claims to be the master of a subject but then "just" goes around nit-picking anyone that opposes them for lack of a better argument?
@The Enigma What you said hinges on changing my general statment that IQ and impulse control are related, and corelate with criminality, which is true, into me saying that these are the only factors involved.
@Edda233 firstly you're original statement was noting of the same factual origin, your original statement was "a lot of murderers are indeed dumb.IQ is closely linked to impulse control" nothing about psychology or how any of this links to criminal behaviour. All I said regarding that statement was that it was less about IQ and more about the conditions.
Secondly I am not misrepresenting a statement when you're statement is literally "a lot of murderers are indeed dumb. IQ is closely linked to impulse control". If it was about more than IQ you could have at least slightly expanded and me using the word "just" has nothing to do with "misrepresenting your statement" when you're statement is just refering to IQ. It's not a personal attack, I'm not bending your words, I literally just use the word "just"
@The Enigma The word just transforms what I said completely, changing it from a generalization to an absolute. Everything after that was a debunking of an absolute that you invented. You are completely bending my words in an utterly disingenuous fashion, and your dithering about how I'm looking to far into it is nothing but a smokescreen.
If this wasn't the case then you would switch to addressing my original statment, which you haven't.
@Edda233I've addressed your original statement and as I said before I cba with a petty back and forth over how you interpret my speech and grammar, if there's one absolute it's that this is absolutely useless so I'm just gonna end this bs here because you'll never actually care to acknowledge any of my relevant points, instead, you try to frame this as me trying to warp your own.
@Nimrod Junction snorting adderall gets you hyped. He may have said he “took” one, to explain any trace in his system, but abusers snort it for the quick acting high.
@Justin Hopper an IQ in the low 80s would make him nearly mentally “impaired”. Doubt that is an accurate prediction for someone who committed 49 murders over 2 decades
@Watermelon Man It’s not a prediction. It seems to be fact. Google his iq. Also watch an interview of him talking. Gary Ridgeway. And then get back to me on that.
@Elliott it likely wouldn't have helped him here since lying requires a level of creativity which Adderall can severely hinder and instead make you overly focus on minute details, at least in people who are taking it who do not have ADHD. It's probably why he gave such a long response with so much irrelevant info.
@Quintus fair enough, but it would also allow him to more quickly analyze each situation individually. He would have a greater ability to "go down the rabbit hole" for one idea and see it through before trying another.
7:25 is the moment it sets in. When the lead investigator walks in, no big/stifled reaction. When the handcuffs rattle on the door handle, he looks up at them, and for a moment he is frozen in place.
"Probably not the best advertisement for the Bonefish Grill if their head chefs are peeling their scabs at work..." LMAO I wasn't expecting a jab from JCS
I never saw this video. I just started watching it now, and as soon as he started talking, i knew he was lying. Im no l.e.o. and im not a genious or am i perfect, but i believe that he lied from the beginning of his bullcrap story. I also agree that when people who are guilty they will talk forever, to try to get someones approval, and they will talk forever to hopefully say something that they can build on. And to hopefully convince someone to believe their baloney stories and lies. This guy cant remember the lies he told, coz when similar questions are asked, his answers differ from the truth and from what he had answered before.
That women's voice is like the drunk girl who has been cut off.
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My Name ls Name2021-06-03 23:35:15 (edited 2021-06-03 23:35:36 )
“ i was born a couple months later, I also didn’t know her for 18+ years, but basically I met her at work she started working after me a couple months after to be exact, we started secretly dating which is against store policy but we’re still good friends and know we’re here”
"If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know is where I was born, and what my lousy childhood was like, and how my parents were occupied and all before they had me, and all that David Copperfield kind of crap, but I don't feel like going into it, if you want to know the truth."
It all started when my father ejaculated in what I believe is my mother……then I was born and open my eyes for the first time I know because I remember 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I always forget about military time until it's mentioned, I forgot that a clock striking 13 actually happens lmfao. Now a clock striking 25 on the other hand...
@The Great Potato I think that 1984 meant it in a figurative way. It was written in 1944, so clocks were basically all analog, and generally analog clocks only go to 12
You gotta be a different kind of stupid to murder a girl where you both work where everyone knows you two are banging. Then thought there were no cameras and then admit to it all...The cops did great getting the confession but I couldn't believe he confessed knowing they couldn't prove he killed her. Mad the confession wasn't released.
@Bean sprout 🌱💞 What is even the point of this reply? People with troubled childhoods will most likely struggle with it in the aftermath. The struggles can manifest in different ways.
@Mr Greenguy what about the people they killed? Their experiences didnt matter? Were the experiences of their murderers more important and valid than their right to continue living?
@Bean sprout 🌱💞 I don't understand how you could have gotten that from anything I've said. All I'm saying is that it's important to look at the circumstances that lead people to commit such crimes so that we can prevent them in the future. But it seems like you're incapable of understanding this for whatever reason.
That's probably why he said "it wasn't supposed to be you." Stating that he thought he was the one person in his family that would get out of crime and live a normal life. Obviously he was wrong but still, pretty sad story for everyone involved.
The only thing I want to point out is that a 4'2" kid with a loaded gun is more dangerous than a 6'5" adult with massive arms. Not saying this lady had a gun, just pointing out that weapons can easily equalize or switch the power dynamics. This guy was probably not acting in self defense, but there are men who do, whom experience this exact problem: "how could you be scared of him/her? He/she's like half your weight and height."
Narrator: "This is known as the desperate bad acting technique. The female detective pairs this tactic with overly loud speaking and way too much emotional pressure. This is a very common thing among detectives with little to no acting skills mixed with terrible pacing. This is also known as the "transparent person tactic", lowering one's volume may be required on this part of the video."
@Think4ward she was successful with interrogation. Because at the end of it he started realizing the gravity of the situation. And confessed. So she must not have been that terrible now could she?
I don't want to mock either of the interrogators, but that sounded like such a weak method to do it. Did they figure out he was especially susceptible to it, or was it just some desperate whiny longshot?
@WriteorDie she played emotional cop likely because they probably knew he was a natural with the ladies. They probably figured that one might get through to him, to make him feel guilty enough to confess about what he did. . If he could see the gravity of what he did, then he might break and confess. Which is what happened. I believe it's why they chose her to reveal the info and her to try to convince him to confess.
Why won't they release the confession? I wonder if he muttered something like "should I be talking to an attorney?" before admitting what happened, and they don't want that video getting out... I haven't ever seen a confession be cut off like this...
The male cops bowtie makes him seem so friendly. I wonder if that is intentional-. Personally, there is a big difference talking to a person with a bowtie rather than a traditional tie.
If you take anything away from watching these presentations it should be, what I learned from 'Lt. Columbo'. He tells the suspect to put on the heat. "You see, murderer's usually only kill, once, to start, and they have to get it ALL 100% right. Where as a Detective oh gosh I probably see several hundred homicides a year, And I've been a cop for 30 years now."
JCS: These are so interesting to watch. Thank you for taking the time to put them together and put them out on your channel. I'm an old geezer wintering in florida alone with a cat. These are very entertaining during a season when most people have a family or someone to spend time with. Thanks again.
Hey chap - same story here, except I’m on the east coast of England. So, in solidarity from over the sea: you have a grand old time, ok mate? Take care of yourself, and I hope you have a superb winter.
Merry Christmas, folks. You can be alone in a house full of people, too. You'll be fine Brother, as long as you keep your spirits up. The World is a terrible place and people are awful anyway, so consider yourself lucky! Take care
Hey there I am a Gramma in Canada and spent most of Christmas Holidays with a goldfish and True Crime Interrogation videos and Netflix...so you have it way better than me...keep your spirits up my friend xxoo
@Alisha Limbu What do you want to be? If it were me, i would say: "An American!" I was born in Canada, but my dad and mother moved to the USA when i was a little quiff. 2. I love the United States. I served in Vietnam as a combat Marine. God watched over me. Let me come home to Maine, saw me through college and gave me the means to buy a 2nd home in South Florida. Now I am a big fat slob, but I still walk and love to watch these intriguing videos. The opossum chew the spark plug wires under the hood of my Kia Soul. I put down some moth balls and changed the wires. I feed the community cats and the opossum come to get what is left behind. Happy New Year to you too. Money is not the only thing. It helps, but money management is more important. Don't get swamped in debt. Then the system owns you.
@BillyLemonZest Thanks Billy! Do you think it's a mistake that I'm in love with a 43 year old inmate who might get out on parole this year? I'm 73. I want to marry her and have never met her. We write letters the old fashion way. I send her money. She has never asked. She really is beautiful. She tells me that she loves me.
@BOCA BEC not sure my friend. Love is as dangerous as life. It's an instinct that is built in, but you have more information than I do. Take what you know and make the best choice you can. And don't be discouraged if you're wrong. Most of us are, most of the time. But no matter what, know that a lot of people are trying hard. Just like us
@BillyLemonZest Thank you for not passing judgement on her and I. I have not even told my own brother because I don't need to hear the lectures. I'm old enough to be making my own decisions. I'm not afraid of making a commitment to my prisoner friend. I can't send her a ring, but have been shopping at Tiffany's in West Palm Beach. It will be a small diamond, but it will be from Tiffany's and my heart will be into it.
Hey, I'm 37 so I'm decrepit according to the Internet lol. Looks like you have a whole lil family right here to be with! You're never alone when you have people who care about you!!! 💗💗💗🫂🫂🫂
@Mama Mangle Thank you Mama! I'm all for a group prayer. To whatever God you do or don't believe in. Just that we all can get along and be kind to one another. I fall of the path once in awhile and I'm going to try staying true to what the map of life has been trying to teach me.
@Easha Ahmed We are both doing fine thank you. I have been having a bout of depression but fighting through that. Blue has got fleas but it is too early to give her the monthly treatment. I feed three "community" cats outside. One, a small black tuxedo i call Felix has after 3 years decided to be a lap cat. The 1st night he did that while I sat in a canvas camp chair it started raining. I sat there and we both got wet because I did not want to disturb him. The rain was just a passing warm shower, thankfully. His sister, Spotz wanted to come up, but I only have one lap. I'll fix her up a blanket beside my chair.
When my dad passed away my mom told me over the phone while I was sitting on the couch. After I hung up I started balling my eyes out. My sweet kitty knew I was upset and gingerly hopped up on my lap and just lovingly sat there. As I started petting her my heartbreak subsided a bit and I was able to collect my thoughts. Afterwards my wife mentioned the change in my emotions as I started petting my furry buddy. These little creatures show love in such genuine ways. You are not alone my friend. Your kitty is your best friend 😊😊
@Puddlebutt and I Oh she does Aaron. Then I'll go out and feed the community cats. Felix, Spotz and Thomas. I come back in side and my cat has her nose out of joint. She is so possessive. How soon they forget that I brought her in from the same hedge-row. She had a bout two weeks of life left in her. I was having a bout of depression. I helped her and she helped me.
@Flysai Other than a broken spine, I'm doing OK. Actually, it just feels that way with ruptured discs. It is always good to sit down. I have had a pretty darn good run and am not going to quit anytime soon. I need to push myself harder to start eating healthier. I love Micky D's. In fact I could eat a large fries sprinkled with salt right this second. But I'm not going to.
@Esormit WE FOUND THE TROLL! I KNEW U WERE HIDING SOMEWHERE. PLEASE SINCERELY WHOLE HEARTLY GO RUN AND PLAY IN TRAFFIC FOR ME. I WISH YOU THE WORSE. 🙏🏿😍
@Sarah Thank you. I have a pen pal. She is in prison. It's nice to get a letter the old fashion way. She's 44 and really beautiful. I have never met her in person. My cat Blue is flying on the plane with me on my birthday, 4/19. I live alone in NH, too. I keep busy and pretty much keep to myself. I just started a low carb diet. That sucks. But, I need to take care of my heart and body. Going for a haircut next week. My hair is silvery white. And she is going in to get her nails trimmed.
@michael Hubbard Thanks Mike! I'm saddling up to head north in a few days. Blue is going in to get a nail trim on Thursday. My happiness is always better when I get a letter from my GF who is an inmate in a state prison in Md. She is really beautiful and I bought her a diamond ring at Tiffany's on 02-22-2022. I'll be able to surprise her once she gets out. She's been in for 22 years already. She's 44. I'll be 74 on the 19th. I'm trying to shed some excess weight too. I don't want her to run the other way.
Lee: "Some years ago—never mind how long precisely—having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation..."
Him: "I have a girfriend, we hung out. We have the same backgrounds and she does a lot of drugs. I used them with her. Not the same drugs, but I did them. I saw her a month ago, she gained weight. Guess she did a ton of drugs and missed work because of it. She looks good....."
It’s disgusting to watch him cry. The first words out of his mouth are “you’re going to jail”. He’s not crying for the life he took, he’s crying because he got caught.
@Waりく and the lady cop her femininity. Imo she stole the show. At first I thought she would ruin everything cuz she was so annoying.
But i think they saw how he smashed a lot of girls so they used the attractive, emotional woman against him (note also how she was the one who revealed the truth to him). It was like she was catching him cheating or something. It was masterful.
They saw emotional, dramatic women as his weakness, easily manipulated by tears on a pretty face, mans a simp. And a murderer.
She didn’t need to do much acting on the job seeing that she clearly was channeling her true inner emotions, it was cringing to watch because you don’t usually expect that from a professional in law enforcement and it seemed to be a little off script being that the other cop seemed to be a little less assertive with his follow ups
@salma the steam engine You've responded 3 times to me now... and you are going with "ai don't care." 🤣 You care so very much. I await you next cry for help with great eagerness.
From what I can sense, she’s acting as if she’s emotional and stressed so her emotions are supposed to make him feel guilty and pressurised into feeling apologetic or stressed out to the point that he confesses
I wonder if she was there to sorta affect his confidence. She looked decently attractive and didn't say one word to him, or even acknowledge his existence half the time. It was stated that he was pretty good with the opposite sex.
@Thor Wagner I mean if you’re actually in a situation where you killed someone and a detective tries to appeal to the more human side by showing emotion, maybe you’d feel different
@may may It’s pretty horrible seeing how when a detective who tries to manipulate emotions is a woman, people for some reason assume that she’s lost control of her emotions and isn’t fit to serve???? People suck.
I like the door swinging open with cuffs on it. He quickly grabs his wrists and spikes up his awareness to the situation which in turn makes him more fearful for his freedom.
And even though this comment won't be read by to many. I kinda feel like that's why they want to shut your channel and style down. Because people can examine and learn. And I Mean Bad People but still love how much more I've learned by watching.
no matter how much you prepare or study you’ll never be prepared for the interrogation room even interrogators who commit a crime fall for the same tricks they used on criminals during there own careers
Detective: "How do you know Savannah?"
Lee: "Well, I was born on a rainy Thursday in May, 1990..." 4 hours later... Lee: "That's how I graduated 4th grade.... Now, when I went into 5th grade.."
Well you're really asking two questions there. The first one takes me back to 1934. Admiral Burn had just reached the pole, only hours ahead of the Three Stooges...I guess he won the argument, but I walked away with the turnips. The following morning I resigned my commission with the coastguard. The next thing I knew there was civil war in Spain...and that's everything which happened in my life right up to the time I got this phone call...
Detective: "What's your name?" Lee: "Well, that's actually a thing. Cause I used to do drugs, my brother gave me aderall, and then this dragon came in - well, I know this dragon cause back in grade school my ex once knew a coworker that had an uncle - so her coworker had an uncle because his grandparents, the parents of his parents, had multiple kids - I think 3, but I could be wrong - and was like 'hey, we good?' And I was thinking, you know what, I don't know this dragon. I said nah, and then the dragon got in a truck, a Ford, green. I haven't seen them since. And that's why they call me Lee"
@Mike that's how me and friends talk we give all those small details when telling a story... he was wearing a blue shirt, that matched his eyes, or it was a balmy sunny day with little clouds in the sky.🤷♀️
@Mike generally I agree, but I do find it problematic that this particular interrogation tactic links guilt with the fear or intimidation felt in the presence of law enforcement. There are many situations in which it would be entirely reasonable for a person to be afraid of the police even if they are completely innocent - just look at the kind of police misconduct and prosecutorial misconduct that exists in our criminal justice system. Wrongful convictions happen all the time; wrongful arrest happens even more frequently. I can't say I wouldn't feel extremely afraid in their presence even if I had nothing to hide. This seems like a dangerously slippery slope to me.
@Sarah Riedel I always think of how nervous people ramble when this tactic comes up. There are many reasons to be nervous in front of police, especially in an interrogation. But then some of these examples on this channel ramble for so long, it's hard to deny there is a difference between nervousness and guilty conscience.
@unpataunpata it's common for detectives to refuse a legal request for counsel by claiming that the person "hasn't technically been charged with anything yet" (these rights only apply to individuals who have been officially charged with a crime). They stick the person in an interrogation room sans attorney - again, claiming that they haven't yet been charged with anything - and suddenly before you know it the person's incriminating themselves even if they haven't done anything illegal. Happens all the time it's a common police tactic.
It's amazing how much detail some of these bad guys give for some reason that is not entirely clear to me. Speaking of giving too many details that don't matter, I remember one guy who was explaining his last meeting with an ex-girlfriend and he started to talk about how he couldn't have killed the ex because at the time she was murdered he was out with his wife and their little daughter and his daughter was wearing a little pink dress with yellow flowers on it that his mother had purchased for her for Easter and had paid $13.99 for it at a clearance sale and they were eating at Bob's Family Restaurant and his wife had chicken that was really oven baked but tasted just like fried chicken and she had a side order of asparagus because the farmers in their area had an extremely good growing season and grew an abundance of vegetables and the asparagus was in the stores just dirt cheap and he had a steak that he requested be med-rare but it actually turned out to be a little TOO rare and he had mashed potatoes that was mashed with the jackets still on them and he sort of preferred that the jackets be removed but the potatoes were still pretty good.... and he went on and on and on until I was thinking that if I were one of those cops I would probably have run screaming from the room. I was yelling at the screen, "Just get to the point, will you????" Maybe that's why they do it. They think they can drive the cops crazy and the cops will finally say, "I think we can resume this questioning another time. For now we just need to take a break...of about 10 years!
Lmao. "Went into 5th grade...my mom was still doing meth...started getting depressed...that was my first bout of depression I think...my grades started slipping...couldn't really concentrate ya know...I'm sorry, what was the question?" Hahaha
Erin Donnelly he has never not posted a video for 3 months. I’ve been a Patreon customer of his since day one, and he’s posted at least 1 video/month from the very beginning. He used to post 2, but now he only posts 1, usually at the end of the month.
@The New Sun I know what you mean. I mean what if somebody I knew got murdered and I had all these subscription to true crime channels? Probably paranoid but honestly watching this stuff makes you paranoid. Innocent people get convicted all the time.
Jim's patreon is the only patreon I subscribe to. Because it's very reasonable ($1) and his content is top notch. I'd pay $1 per video if I had to, it's worth it! The patreon videos are even better than the YouTube ones too.
@Cyrene just dont murder anyone and I think you'll be good lol Itd be pretty hard to get a conviction off of the fact that you like true crime :p .. unless you live in west Memphis :/
@The New Sun use the website Privacy.com. You link your bank through an encrypted system, then you can create "virtual cards" for any website. You can use a different name, address and phone number but Privacy lets the charge through. You can set limits so a site can't charge you any more than that or Privacy declines it. You can also choose to make a one time use card that closes as soon as you are charged. I use it for "free" trials because I always forget to cancel or when I do glitches online, since PayPal now let's merchants change the amount you charged to any amount they want.
It's crazy how people can talk without a lawyer. Criminals are scum but detectives are there to close the case, and some will throw anyone under the bus just to get closer to a promotion. In this case, I don't believe for a second that the detectives wanted anything other than closing the case.
At the end when he is having his mental breakdown. You say one of the reasons is his knowledge of what's to come. I would just like to say, he has no idea what in the road ahead of him. Karma is in the road ahead of him, and will be with him throughout his journey through the department of corrections.
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36:13 He's blaming the girl he killed. You deserve everything thats coming to you... PS: Act of self defense my ass, he could've easily overpower the girl instead of snapping her neck. Glad he's in jail now.
@pub g nah if you took the time to research he got around 4 years time served so its 36 ish years and he was sentenced when he was 31 years old so he'd come out at around 67 years old.
Even if he came out at 55 years old and committed another murder, that would not be the fault of how long the sentence is it would be the fault of the lackluster prison system America has. If the American prison system was good, and he came out at 55 he probably would not commit another crime.
@Simi yeah.. but at the cost of samantha’s life? it isnt really fair, i mean how long she gonna stay dead for? is she just gonna magically reappear once the guy gets out of jail?
@기본적인 백인 소녀 life sentence is 25 years, unless they get ‘without possibility of parole’ attached.
Just saying. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
You all also act like 40 years in prison is easy. 😂 You have no idea on what it actually does to you being there for so long.
The reason most people return back to crime after long sentences is because they can’t acclimate themselves back into society nearly as easy. Do you understand how hard it is to get a job held after you’ve been convicted of felonies? 🤨🤨🤨 How about the fact that 10+ years of society may have passed you by because you were secluded to a single building so damn long, that you don’t know anything around you anymore? 😐😐
Think real hard and tell me how ‘easy’ your life would be then… 🤷♂️
@Simi if we introduce the human centipede into our prison system, their behavior will change dramatically. and the latest design is 100% clinically accurate!
@Rando Persón Okay and he murdered a young woman so I don't really care what it'll do to his damn mind. It was damaged already if he was willing and able to go through with killing someone. Do I feel sorry for the people who are wrongly accused and sentenced and or are sentenced for really petty crimes, yes. But a killer? No.
@pub g thats not the problem, the problem is the society wich puts a label on him, a "criminal" "prisoner" "ex-felon" when he comes out people wont let him change, he will never be able to change
@Simi Curious minds want to know - If America's prison system is not good, then you're implying that some other country's prison system IS good. What country or countries would that be??
40 years is a long time, now is the time to work on becoming a trustee inmate, he may be able to put on a chef's coat one day in a minimum security facility. At the end he said "Use your head" now is the time for him to heed his own advice. He also should repent for Savannah's death and accept the consequences for killing her.
@Simi America doesn't have a perfect prison system. But then again, nothing is perfect. And you can probably point at some prison system somewhere in the world that is better. But what I really care about, is where does America rank in prison systems, compared to the rest of the world?? I would say that if America's prison system is in the top-10, then it's a 'good' prison system. And then also, what variables or key indicators dictate what makes a prison system "good"?
@The Map Maker I literally said that there are no perfect prison systems, if you are arguing for the sake of arguing and not reading what I am saying the conversation is done.
@Simi I'm not arguing. I'm challenging and asking questions, that's all. You're initial post was that "America's prison system is not good". I've also read from other people on this thread that "America's prison system is trash". What I want to know is this - How are we measuring the performance of our prison system in America and what are we measuring it against, to come up with these conclusions of America's prison system?? What 'performance" indicators are you using to measure? Or are these just knee jerk conclusions? Where does America's prison system rank compared to the rest of the world?? Don't get frustrated because someone like me challenges you with "hard" questions. Maybe you just don't care to be challenged?
@#FozzieLife, see you take that for this person in particular, but do you know how may WRONGLY accused are actually stuck in the prison system for years, to decades?
@DestielSnot what if the ‘killer’ did it to save his own life? Do you consider your military front line and special ops murderers, because they kill people? 😐😐😐
Men like him that make females their God do horrible crimes like this. What a monster, but Chelsea Chelsea Chelsea, I think she knew more and she went to see him that evening and afterwards, she told him you better erase our msgs , I don't have nothing to do with what happened inside the car.
@Theresa Stroll That probably wasn't necessary of me to point out but thanks. Jail is for "innocent" people awaiting trial and for people sentenced to lesser crimes in which the sentence is less than two years, depending on where you are. Prison is where the real bad guys go. Jail is where you'll find someone that drove with a suspended license. Prison is where you'll find someone that killed his wife. Huge difference!
@Janoy Cresva ok so you have that to state about an opinion that is hard to prove, but what do you have to say about the facts i proposed you? I am right and there is no way you can find something that goes against what i stated, so you have to attack small details that have nothing to do with the point i made. So again, do you have anything RELEVANT to say about this topic, or will you just bless me with your awkward silence?
@amelia lee I don’t think death sentence is ever a good option. A lot of innocent people go to prison even when there’s doubt about their case. Killing innocents is the last thing we want to do.
@Simi exactly, as much as it's a bit blunt it's the truth half the people who say stuff like "that's not enough" to a 40 year sentence... It just feels like ignorance, these are the people who haven't experienced a year in prison let alone 40 and I feel as if the prison system is flawed if someone with some amount of remorse comes out of prison with none. Some people need counseling not just extra time.
I agree with the commenter who said “he isn’t sad about the girl’s death, he’s mad that he got caught” which usually describes a sociopath. When they started describing Lee in the very beginning they said “charming, player, etc” That’s all I needed to hear: conclusion- sociopath-no empathy, no capacity to feel other’s pain. Look out ladies-they are out there-just PASS and keep your life drama free!
@pub g I understand the fear of that but after what i have seen i seriously would doubt it. It was second degree murder out of a situation some of us can relate to. I dont say it wasnt wrong but i think 40 years is wayyyy enough and dont think that he should be put away forever since he will have more than half his life to think about what he has done and become a better man.
@pub g I really don't think there is any reason to believe he'd murder again. He seems genuinely remorseful and I think it was just a really unfortunate set of circumstances and a very bad and spontaneous reaction/decision on his part. While he deserves the sentence for taking a young girls life, he is not showing any evidence to believe that he is ever likely to murder again.
@Janoy Cresva i feel like it’s kind of a reasonable sentence. he clearly was remorseful and 40 years of prison is a fucking lot. When this guy is like 60 or something and free from prison i doubt he’s gonna be much trouble
This guy was my cellmate for 4 months on the east unit pod 1 5th floor cell 9 in jacksonville detention center.. He actually went with stand your ground law .. But he worked out everyday and was huge.. His victim was so tiny.. Lee is so soft to. Everyone punke'd him out
Detective: How do you know her? Lee : Here is our entire relationship and everything about her personal life Detective: When was the last time you saw her? Lee: Describes the entire murder scene
@7:37 He may be a murderer of a small, young, Caucasian female and they leave him alone with a small, Caucasian female with the keys in the door. Keys make an excellent weapon. Does the door lock from inside? Can the table and chair(s) be used to keep the door shut preventing entry for a small period of time? Say long enough to stab her in the face, eye(s), and neck with a key, break her neck or strangle her? Why wouldn't the detective automatically bring water in case it was desired thus removing the need to leave his colleague in the room with a possible murderer of small, Caucasian young women?
Seems to me an innocent person would give more details than what is necessary in order to provide points to be tested later. If the version does not change that indicates it may be true. A person with something to hide would say as little as possible. Of course, I know this flies in the face of conventional thought. I think I would voice this theory and answer the questions adhering to this, assuming I was not guilty of the crime in question.
Who gains weight in 3-4 days? BS Why are Americans so unwilling to call somebody a liar? I see it constantly. "She dead that's why you will not tell us, correct?" they don't say once but he is thinking every second. He thinks these two are daft because they won't ask it. And I have to agree with him.
Rodarte received a 40-year prison sentence in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to second-degree murder, according to the State Attorney's Office. Other charges of tampering with evidence and abuse of a dead body were dropped in the agreement.
Just googled this guys name and I shit you not his younger 26 year old sister is also serving a long jail sentence for a totally unrelated murder she was involved in. Nice family
To be fair, that doesn't immediately incriminate anyone! Oversharing is a symptom of ADHD as well, even when completely calm (I have ADHD and do it myself)
it's only one of many signs. saying too little can also be a sign. but these things aren't evidence at all, just an indicator that interrogators are on the right track. if you're EVER arrested for anything, get a lawyer. i've witnessed first-hand people running their mouths and looking more guilty than they actually are, at trial. quick lawyers will interrupt and stop their client from running their mouths. but really, if you're ever arrested, shut the eff up. be respectful, ofc. but you are under no obligation to meet the approval of authorities. they must follow the law. ask for your lawyer.
@Anonymous It's because it's about psychology and psychology can only be spoken about in very general terms unless it is about a specific person. So basically lots of people and their personalities and actions fit these psychological explanations, but lots of people don't fit them either.
@Lyla Hammar I was just about to comment this! My ADHD brain either takes in nothing or absolutely everything. I notice so many unnecessary details and have somewhat of a photographic memory. So if someone asks me about something, they get a very thorough answer. I think the desire to help is another ADHD thing that contributes to the over-sharing. I want them to have all the information they might need and then some. So yeah I’d probably talk my way into prison for sure.
@Lyla Hammar same, and I thought, "shit", too, when I heard that, hahaha. Oh man, these psych break-downs can get into your head, lol. I take Adderall and it makes me shut right up and be in my head, though. I wonder if, when you don't have ADHD and take adderall, does it make you talk more?
@kitsch take Adderall. Ironically, it shuts me right up because it calms my brain down and I lock into only 1 or 2 things at a time instead of having ten billion scattered thoughts blowing around in my head.
I'm a nervous talker too under pressure, but its totally different when you're in an interrogation room! I've been in one a few times, once was for a sexual assault case, and the other was for identity theft. Its definitely nerve wracking being in the room, but when you're reporting a crime, for me at least, it was like a switch flipped in my head. I was nervous, shaky, dry mouth, but I was fairly concise and super confident in what I was saying.
@C Glenn it definitely makes a difference if you have ADHD or not. Aderall will calm you down and help you focus with ADHD but makes you hyper and talkative without it.
Right? I'm also easily bullied into agreeing to just about anything. Literally just raising your voice at me is enough to break me to tell you I did it. Not great if im ever accused as a murderer.
yeah i also write essays really long but the last "essay" i wrote wasn't that long i guess but then again that was for a poem; the raven which is pretty short and oh god i'm doing it already. :/
In high tense situations like this your self-preservation mode will likely/commonly kick in, so even people with insane high anxiety or nervous talkers don't go this far off the deep end and will in fact give the correct body language and everything without you even realizing it, when answering interrogation questions like 99% of the time. Or so I have heard
Same but I feel like there's a noticeable difference from BPD/ADD level oversharing and what this guy did 😭 like yeah I would probably be like "Oh we worked at the same place. Dated her for a few years, pretty tough she was really crazy" so I might go into a little more detail than I should, but not like "here's a 30 page essay in MLA format detailing the entirety of our relationship with cited sources"
I had to see what happened and I figure anyone reading this now will be wondering too, so in March of 2021, Rodarte pled guilty to 2nd degree murder in exchange for a 40 year sentence
@Lauren A we have seen the cctv footage, i am confirming the cookie did not walk with two legs but instead, YOU ATE IT!!! YOU MURDERED THE COOKIE WE KNOW!!
"You were pretty hungry right? Long day at school. That teacher was giving you a hard time, right?"
"...yes... dad, we've been through this, I've told you everything, I'm tired"
"And I understand that. I'm tired. Hell, we can all go home as soon as you admit to me that you took that cookie. We all know you did it. We got a whole lot of evidence that you did [ doesn't have any conclusive evidence ], you just need to tell us and we can all go home. You're a good person. You have a good heart, I know that. Nobody's doubting that. Anyone would have taken that cookie if they'd been through what you'd been through"
@Mattteus They dont have to do "work", lets say there is a situation where the kids have been playing outside and ended up breaking something. When the parents ask their kid if it was them, they will clearly be able to read them to a bigger extent.
@Mattteus Thats not at all what i said. They are able to read the answer they get back better than anyone else and will know instantly if they are lying or not
Blahblahblah Blah man I actually started to believe I took the cookie and almost confessed because I do have a good heart, I haven’t ate a single cookie in 2020...
@Gerr Bear That's completely true. My ex's dad was in forensics, and although he didn't get away with much at home as a teenager bc his dad was really tuned in, he was the most deceptive person I ever knew when we were married.
Fem ke parents who aren’t trained to break people can teach their children right and wrong. It happens all the time. Using those tactics on kids is basically teaching the children to be professional liars.
How come so many criminals decide to talk to the detective and ALMOST NEVER ASK FOR A LAWYER? It's like they think try and NOT GET A LAWYER AND TALK ALONE JUST TO SEE HOW MUCH THE COP KNOWS ABOUT THE CASE BUT IT ALWAYS BACKFIRES LMAO
@clatoripixi you'll feel a lot better after you tell us what happened to that cookie now's your chance, you'll regret this once your locked in that room for 30 minuets.
johnb johnb gotta call your bluff, friend. 2020 has been a.... bitc.. errrr... a struggle. We ALLLLLL eat cookies. Don’t play.. you know you eats cookies! 🤨🤣🤣
Look... it’s not looking good for you. As soon as your mother gets home I’m gonna have to hand this case over to her. I’m trying to help you. Help me help you. Tell me where you hid the remote.😂😂😂
3:00 I'm surprised they even bothered with the security footage or even looked in the parking lot after 2 hrs.....normally they wait until the trail is long grown cold and or a body is found....
On minute 29 you can see him sipping some water. Actually I heard one day from my therapist that it's a way of releasing stress - that's why some therapists don't approve of drinking during session - so that the patient can reflect on themselves instead
@baronessa I have no idea what you're talking about...I'm lost...how could what I commented be offensive...this guy his defense is he was worried he'd lose his job at Bonefish Grill for having a relationship with a coworker (which is weird considering he was a cook not even a manager or anything). It was not my intention to offend it was simply a comment on how crazy a "motive" that is.
I wonder if they closed the location. A bar near me had an abortion in the bathroom and it had to be sold. It opened up under a new name but it's pretty wild that someone killed a newborn in the bathroom
"One day when you have kids" I'm surprised they didn't address that. Another tactic to make the suspect feel like he isn't in any trouble or won't be going to prison.
I was going to put a similar comment and then I thought to myself no one's going to read it no one's going to see the same thing you noticed so I erased my comment and I scrolled down and this is one of the top comments. Yeah I feel the same way I think the detective did it on purpose to give him some false hope meanwhile both the suspect and the detective knew he wasn't walking out of there that day. I have the feelings like the male detective is more seasoned and been doing it longer
I don't agree actually. I think the point was to make him feel empathetic, try and put him in the parents shoes (which SHOULD make him feel like an absolute shit if he's normal) and the voice over didn't explain that because it was quite obvious
female investigator came off as too loud and desperate and i think for this guy it wasnt the right move. im not really sure why investigators use this form of interrogation, it almost always seems to make the defendant close up even more. from what ive gathered, as a nobody in this field, is that calmer and more direct detectives are more off-putting and threatening. like the male investigator here, its like night and day with the female one. has nothing to do with gender, obviously, just the techniques they choose to use. for example, the "when you have kids" argument fell completely flat for many reasons, but i think the main one is that she compared the victim with a child. Lee and Savannah didnt have a father daughter relationship, they had a sexual one and he most likely never viewed her as a "little girl" so there was nothing there to make him feel sympathy in the female investigatotrs efforts. and i found that very strange how she was so persistent with this argument.
I kinda felt bad when he said "This is the last time you're gonna wear a Chef's jacket" Then I remembered he murdered a 21 year old girl for absolutely no reason
ngl i laughed when he was like "she was nice to you!!!" "of course somebody was a bitch to you..." and then a second later was like "how does that make any sense"
I guess the reason was because he would get fired for "confraternizing" (sorry if it's misspeled) with the staff. At least this was what i got out of it.
yeah man every time i watch these videos i start to feel bad for the criminals and then i realize they're criminals and they didn't feel bad when they killed someone so they don't deserve any sympathy at all!
Major Kramer you understand a man who kills someone just to keep his position at a crappy restaurant? I’d understand more if it was a super important job and he also had a family, but he had no one and let’s face it an average job lol, also it was him who got her into drugs in the first place
People don't murder people for no reason. That doesn't make any sense. If there was no reason we'd all be murderers, if people didn't need reasons. I don't actually know the reason, but my guess is that that reason was not a good enough reason to murder someone, not that there wasn't one. When people act irrationally, by definition they don't have good enough reasons to do what they do, they let their emotions take hold. But usually there will be something which has made them so emotional in the first place. I think a lot of the time people don't understand why they feel the way they do. Remorse and guilt is partly about wondering how you could ever have done what you did in the first place. You can't simply admit it because you feel like it wasn't even you that did it, like something more powerful took hold and you have no rational explanation of it. That's called feelings. So to say that this guy lacked feelings or emotions is wrong. To say that he lacked remorse is also probably an illusion created by those who wish to see him suffer, but actually themselves find it difficult to wish ill will on somebody without at the same time telling themselves they are either an "ice cold killer" or a psychopath or whatever. This is a coping mechanism. We are not able to wish suffering on punishment on somebody we can sympathise with. We remove their human qualities in order to make them "punishable". We, ironically, actually dehumanise them, in order, in a way, to have our revenge on them for upsetting the balance in an otherwise peaceful society (or the illusion of one). Here, people often say "I'm not defending him, but", but I'm going to say, I am defending him. He's only human. Humans, for all their worth, are not perfect. We all have moments of weakness, irrationality, passion, anger, rage, violence. All of us. Not one of us doesn't have this in them. There is nothing special about him. Nothing different. My view is that we create a reality where everybody is cool and calm and rational except the people who commit crimes. Yet we all know there are times when we get away with something which we know deep down we shouldn't have done. So my view is that he was unlucky. Both to get into such a difficult relationship with someone he clearly connected to - having shared a similar upbringing and drug habit, as he stated - as well as someone who clearly caused him torment. Maybe he cared too much about her, and couldn't stand seeing her messing herself up on drugs. When parents want their kids to stop doing something stupid, which risks their lives or health, they sometimes hurt them - they may give them a little smack or twist their arm, or slap their head. Maybe he learnt and carried that behaviour over into adulthood, and hadn't realised how much he could hurt someone. But I really wish people wouldn't take all the humanity and subtleties of explanations out of people and situations purely in order to help themselves feel better about jails and prisons.
@Joseph Edwards I doesn't have to make sense. He clearly loved his job & his lifestyle. Maybe working at the restaurant was his life. People who are in sound mind of course wouldn't kill or hurt somebody but whatever the reason it did happen. I understand that they were in a relationship & using drugs. They both understood the consequences & knew that they could lose their jobs. Whatever she threaten him with it cost her life. Now he's going to pay for it!
It still just shows he feels sorry for himself and himself alone. “Poor me I can’t wear this outfit to work and function with the rest of society anymore.”
@Major Kramer this is disgusting. You don’t just kill someone if they piss you off. If she was really getting in his space, why didn’t he get a restraining order? You don’t know their personal dynamic, you’re only listening to a guy who KILLED someone and you’re gonna trust his story? Maybe if Savannah was alive she would have a different story to share about what went on with them and what their relationship was like.
Major Kramer he thought he was gonna get away with it, but now his life is completely ruined, if he really cared about his job and loved his lifestyle he wouldn’t have begun that relationship in the first place would he? So clearly he wasn’t too bothered about his career, let her tell ruin his job, it was his fault for getting in such a situation, he should have just let her, accepted he made a mistake and built up from there, coz it was his fault for falling for an employee, and getting her into drugs etc, he had to pay the price, he should have paid it, you make any mistakes you have to pay, but instead he tried to be a coward and get rid of the debt and now he’s in prison for life paying the ultimate price and not only that a life is lost and it’s all on his head, he looked at a problem that honestly wasn’t even a big problem at all, I mean worst thing he would get fired that’s the worst thing, but he somehow managed to turn and wreck the entire situation on his head, I mean it seems strange how dating an employee would ruin your career at a restaurant, I can understand a high end job or like a school or college, but a restaurant? The boss would fire him for dating one of his employees? Lol that’s strange, only in America
I mean, as opposed to so many of the cases on this channel, this guy seems to be a real human being. One who did something terrible beyond words, and should be locked up for a long time. But, as opposed to most “people” on this channel who are almost alien in their lack of humanity, he seemed to comprehend the magnitude of what he did, and what he’s going to get for it. And I believe in cases like that, there is a chance for redemption.
He had a "reason", it just wasn't a justifiable one...Basically, he killed her to not get fired. Some people...I got fired once for getting into a car accident on the way to work, and not "walking" the 30 MILES...True story!
@LaCabraAsadaYour absolutely right. No one has the right to hurt, kill or force someone to do something that causes them pain. I can only try to understand what someone does, whether it makes sense or not.
Absolutely no reason??? EVERYTHING in the universe has a reason, just because you don't know the reason doesn't mean it doesn't have a reason. Every little thing you do has a reason behind it.
@clownMonomaniac I am also an emotional person but I don't feel bad for him at all, when you can easily kill an innocent person as if she was just a fly and can live with it like you did nothing wrong then you don't deserve any compassion. Murder is the worst crime/sin. Imagine if she was your sister, would you still feel bad for him? just because he said those "stuff"
@Major Kramer I agree, some people think they can say and do whatever they want with no consequences and sometimes death is a consequence and obviously prison time. Like we can't assume this girl was soo innocent... I have to agree with this.
i’m having a hard time understanding why he did it? i’ve watched a lot of these videos and most of the time there’s a pretty clear motive or they have absolutely no remorse. is it really solely because she was telling people they were a thing???
@Ben Siener Yes I think you are right. He Also mentions that he lacks sleep because of work. Sleep deprivation also makes you uncomfortable. Plus Rodarte probably hopes that being honest about the minor crime of drug use, will make his denial of murder more believable.
In what world does a guy say, "I'm feeling a bit depressed. I think we should stop seeing each other," and his girl respond, "I understand, that's completely fine."?
If he would have gotten a lawyer they could have fought this and probably won because there are hundreds of those types of cars and there was no realistic identification. Should have invoked his right to remain silent and requested an attorney that would have been a case thrown out.
If that bothers you don't look into the Canadian justice system. You could kill and be on the streets in 2 decades.
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@Made By Mot its light compared to most US penalty systems, but when you look at a lot of Western Europe countries you will get around 20 years max + lifelong custody when you commit any kind of murder(s)
@Made By Mot You’re right, 40 years is light for taking away a lifetime. I wish violent offenders were held behind bars, away from freedom and vulnerable civilians, for life.
@Made By Mot yeah I just saw a case that happened a few years back. Some guy murdered female coworker whom he had invited to his sister's wedding and killed her that night. He informed the police the following morning and explained in detail what had happened - strangled her, had sex with her corpse, tried to drown himself but failed. First trial thrown out. Forgot what the defence was.....something about involuntary inebriation??!!? Second trial though the jury found him guilty but he was very close to walking free!
Good! He deserved it. There is always a better way to solve such stupid problems than killing someone over it. What was so horrendous? was getting fired that bad? He would have gotten another job! ffs!
Oh that is good to hear. To believe he had the audacity to accuse the half his size poor 21 year old girl that he brutally murdered of attacking him and claiming self defense is laughable....im glad he will rot in jail for what he did
@ari Unpopular opinion: it is proven that harsher and/or longer sentences don't work to stave off violent crime, especially an impulsive and passionate homicide such as this one. Don't get me wrong he should absolutely be punished, but after that it's time to repay society for your actions.
I'm pretty sure 40 years is on the harsher side for a crime like this, because he chose to try and wiggle out of his sentence by pleading not guilty. So he got second-degree murder instead of voluntary manslaughter.
@Delta V Pleading not guilty at arraignment is standard, no matter what jurisdiction you are in. I don't think thats trying to wiggle out of a sentence.
@Brendan Bergh Unfortunate choice of words. What I meant is that they probably went for harsher criminal charges because he wasn't cooperating with the DA after confessing.
Is it still standard to plead not guilty after a confession? I'm not that knowledgable on US law, but I would wager that a "crime of passion" defence would've gotten him a lower sentence (i.e. voluntary manslaughter instead of second degree murder.)
40 years is a long ass time... it usually takes a few years for it to sink in, to wrap your head around...but when it does, you can hear them screaming at night...it’s a very deep, unique hopeless scream that casts out a part of your humanity, your sanity, your spirit...
@krikukiks because sentencing is completely decided by the judge who are different so one might make a person who killed 10 people serve for 10 years while another might make a drug dealer serve for 30
You guys should look any crime commited in latinarmerica, people here can be found guilty of killing 40 fucking people and be free in like two years just by saying "but I just had the bodies!!! I didn't kill them!!! Just hid them in my house!!!" and then pass the blame onto someone else lol
@Delta V you plee not guilty every time. When you take a plee you are essentially pleading guilty I think their are three types that mean the same thing essentially. I would assume almost every person who pleads a guilty signed for a deal. You don’t plead typically because the deal offered sucks or you really just want to go to trial. Depending on the case there is arraignment where you do initial plea not guilty and bail. These things kind of fluctuate depending on the case. Then there is like Pretoria’s where evidence gets presented to warrant a trial. Some other thing I believe. Then trial. Pleading guilty is just not something done without a deall.
@Weber I understand that pleading guilty is essentially taking the DA's deal, because what's the point of going to court after that. I'm just saying that if he had accepted the deal (or renegotiated to voluntary manslaughter if the deal was 2-degree murder), cooperated with the investigation and showed remorse he probably would have a lower sentence and an easier time appealing for sentence reduction.
@ari Am I dreaming, or is it true that I've been hearing on the news that in this country they are attempting to empty jails of ALL criminals as far as I know.
@Made By Mot "how that's possible i have no clue" - well, for example, if they've beaten an admission out of him and that's why he was crying and that moment was cut.
@Dean Spencer you lost credibility when you quoted lord Farquad, and I’m sure you wouldn’t have the same ideology if it was your family member facing execution when they were innocent. You lost even more credibility when salves and women not being able to vote having anything to do with common sense. There’s hundreds of females on this earth who are smarter then you and me both will ever be, same thing with anyone of color. Race or gender has nothing to do with something that they can or can’t do. And lastly you lose all credibility when you thought medicine or drugs are expensive. I’d say the medical industry is by far one of the US biggest industries and brings in a large amount of income and if drugs had a cheap price tag like they should because most chemicals are inexpensive and cheap to mass produce, the medical industry will plummet!! You’re obviously disconnected from society and problem some old man who has nothing better to do they spew non sense online
@Delta V Different jurisdictions have different practices. But many times the Arraignment may be the first time the Defense Attorney has time to look at the discovery/police reports. You can always continue an arraignment, but that can be a strategy/due process issue. Many cases start with an initial plea of Not Guilty, and then at the first court day a plea of guilty after reviewing how airtight the case is. A decent attorney will also look at any confession to see if it was obtained illegally to see if it can be thrown out.
@Delta V in this case doubtful as fuck. I could imagine a resentencing going worse. I still get what your saying though. Unless I’m misunderstanding a lot of evidence
during the segment when he's alone processing things i almost felt like he was feeling remorse, but then he pleads not guilty and gives the ridiculous self defense story?! ew.
As an innocent person I'd give a long detailed answered to try and give as many details to help them with their investigation- I'd look so guilty even though I was innocent.
¿yako thats why there’s “signs” but there’s always people who differ. There’s no hard, fast & absolute way to tell if someone’s lying. You just gotta hope that, first off, you’re never in that position. & if you happen to be, you gotta hope you don’t have some asshole detective, who doesn’t account for the differences from person to person.
Same. I give too much information when I’m nervous. Just because I know I’m not lying doesn’t make me confident enough to know the other person is getting the message. What appears shady to others could be as innocent as too much caffeine.
@Candace Colon-Rivera Agree with the first two sentences you wrote. But if you are ever being questioned by the police, you should remain silent and hire a lawyer rather than hoping the detective will think you are innocent.
Kristen JustKristen 😂 I am the same. But thanks to my true crime obsession, I’ll save my convo for anyone else BUT police. Have you heard of Kristine Bunch? That was the case that REALLY solidified to me, that it doesn’t matter if your innocent you really just need to be quiet. It sounds logical to say, if I’m innocent it doesn’t matter. But that’s just not true...
Omg as a true crime person AND someone who thinks. of weird shit when I’m bored my search history alone would convict me Example - after reading about the Routier case where her sink lit up with luminal I was curious and googled “are there any chemicals that can get rid of blood so luminal doesn’t show??” Lol ps the internet didn’t give me an answer so it’s good I’ll never murder anyone
@khaebs I applied for a job, once, at a police station. I wanted to be a police dispatcher. They'd had trouble with a dispatcher in the past - that dispatcher had a violent boyfriend who was pulled over by a policeman. Rather than tell the policeman about her boyfriend's violent record, she omitted it. Unfortunately for the policeman, he didn't know this, and the boyfriend harmed the policeman. So, when I went to interview, they wanted to know if I would ever omit information even if it was a friend. I said no, of course not. That part of the interview I aced. The second part was they wanted to root out any possible bad behavior from the get-go, stuff that wasn't on the books. So, the second part of the interview was a lie-detector test. I got so freaked out I failed. I kept on thinking, "What if I did something illegal and I don't realize it? What if I forgot?" I mean, I just really overdid it in my head. I failed, and the policeman that gave me the test walked me out. He had a mad look on his face, like he just KNEW I was a bad person. Yeah. I didn't get the job. That day, I learned that the lie detector test isn't an accurate device. Sure, it can give you an idea on what a person is, maybe. But some people lie and believe their own lies. Other people don't give a crap whether they are telling the truth or not, and they don't feel guilty about doing bad things. The lie detector isn't going to catch those kinds of people. What it does do is pick up on elevated heart rate and breathing, such as when someone gets nervous. All the questions are yes/no format and unlike what you see on tv, a person is told NOT to answer with more than yes or no. Messes up the test more, I guess. Anyway. It was an interesting experience.
I don't know man. If you actually had a complicated relationship with the person and don't have anybody to talk to to pour out your feelings this could be a valid response
@Dylan J Not psuedo science. Lie detectors do accurately measure changes in pulse, blood pressure, and breathing. But what they can't tell you is why those changes are occuring. They cannot detect a lie, as their name suggests. Merely just changes in the human body. Which can result from lying... Or many other things, such as anxiety or nervousness.
@¿yako also silly for JCS to say "an innocent person wouldn't view the detective as a threat, so would do such and such" Um lots of innocent people would fear a detective falsely accusing them of something and try to explain things as much as possible. It's completely rational for an innocent person to do so..detectives/police have the power to ruin your life if they wish, innocence be damned.
Most people don’t know this but Kavanaugh is the judge who blocked the JFK files from getting released. The CIA owns Mr. “Drain the swamp” Trump. Just another puppet with brainwashed supporters.
@pubcollize lol, first of all. it was the 5th comment down. second, it's called multi-tasking. and third, i didn't mean i would die from the "spoiler," if you can call something that happened irl a spoiler, i meant from the comment itself. ie; it's ridiculous if he stated that. also why would i be worried about someone that already committed murder and is in jail 'going psycho on me?' what i said was clearly hyperbole but your analogy didn't even make sense.
We did drugs. I did drugs. Do you like drugs? I like drugs. Do you like drugs? Do you think I have a shot at becoming a judge on the supreme court? Beer. Hmm...I could do some beer...
@¿yako Yeah some people respond differently for different reasons like they were saying but this guy also admitted to taking Adderall before the interview and that tends to make most people that don't medically need it talk a lot and ramble on about things.
Have you ever watched any episodes of the first 48? Most of the truly innocent people not only talk openly and give as much info as possible (totally me. Ramble onnnnnnnn!) but when confronted with the fact that they are a suspect they freak the F out!
Now. Guilty peeps have also freaked the F out, but you could tell it was fake. Same with the crying but no tears. 🤦🏼♀️
arlietalks I caught myself going thru the evidence photos of that entitled Mike guy who shot up the Durango full of teenagers “thugs” (in his words 🙄) the young man who was killed - attorney has a website full of photos. Well. Florida also makes evidence public.
So. Yeah. Search hx would snatch my arse right tf UP! Dr google is too damn easy to get lost in...
Makes you wonder if " as the parent of a murdered child " do some parents pay money to felons families to make sure the killer gets a regular rough ride inside ?
I love seafood in general and I went to the Bonefish Grill in Columbia, SC and they were always closed. I just gave up after 3 tries. Now I am glad I did!
Jesus Christ. I’m happy he got caught, but if I got taken into a police station on a “traffic warrant,” and they started asking me about the disappearance of my ex girlfriend, the first thing I’m doing is asking for a lawyer. How are all the criminals so fucking dumb? I’m happy they are, but I just don’t get it.
yak yak yak.. he beLIEves he can talk his way out of trouble... watch Michael Dunn's police interview... another man who beLIEved he could talk his way out of being CONvicted of murder and stand on his right to protect his life and the life of 'the love of his life' aka fiance' who didn't lie for him. She is A GOoD. WOMAN who got. CONned by a CONman....
This technique wouldn't have worked on me. If they'd kept me waiting for an hour and a half I would be too angry to tell them anything coherent, regardless of whether or not I'm guilty. I suppose I might give them another reason to arrest me, after I deliver a most righteous slap, but no jury would convict me of that.
I will never understand how any sane human being can kill another human in cold blood, firstly. Secondly, after the fact, I don't understand how this sane human being can feel no remorse whatsoever for what they had done. He was crying and screaming out of fear for himself, not out of remorse for what he had done.
He’s trying to play the insane card, if he can spend 14 minutes holding a conversation with a female luring her into the car, he’s sane enough, maximum sentence please
While it is heart-wrenching to see such a beautiful woman get killed this violently, and a man's highly potential future get destroyed by a misguided emotion and a set of actions, this video, more precisely after the end of the interrogation, shows that a person can just ruin all of their attempts by just doing one terrible mistake, intentional or not. I personally do grieve for both the victims and this person: I believe that this man could have a very bright career as a chef and as a man in general, if it wasn't for this unforgiving accident that he caught himself in the middle of; and if we take it a bit deeper with the girl, we could see that this would have been avoided if she knew where to stop and had done the right actions to keep herself and him sane from the start. Trust me, hooking up is a very powerful tool for bonding, and if the actions in the follow-up are done without full attentiveness to your and the other person's action, it could end horribly like this. The moral of this interrogation session is to get a hold of what you get the urge to do, and what you do that could be potentially manipulative and sensitive to others. No one is born evil, the term evil is just someone's bad cope with the problems they had in their lives. Hopefully we all could learn the self control so we don't mess up like he did.
"if we take it a bit deeper with the girl, we could see that this would have been avoided if she knew where to stop and has done the right actions" nothing she has done justified him taking her life, she shouldn't have to act a certain way to be able to live, and saying that comes off as you victim blaming her and making it out to be her fault why she has died
your whole comment is about how hes this "poor" man who make a "mistake", saying its just a mistake is an understatement, he took a life and tried to cover his tracts, i dont believe he deserves pity.
Kicking your partner under the table, let yourself continue, speaks of the lack of coherence and coordination of their actions. Another huge disadvantage.
@Yuby Nuby I wouldn't say lack of coherence and coordination due to the male detective responding quickly to the little nudge she gave. It's just an interesting way to communicate without having to alert the suspect.
It’s funny that all criminals who are interrogated are much more preoccupied of how convincing and truthful their lies sound, rather than thinking that the information they share is going to be used against them during the trial. 😄
Dude, a restaurant where you can be the head chef + manager AND it's ok for you to pick your scabs while at work? I wouldn't kill to keep this job, I'd massacre.
Well, in his defense, murdering co-workers wasn't specifically forbidden in the employee handbook, only dating them was. Technically, it wasn't against company policy.
I mean its fucked up to kill anyone period let alone over a stupid job but let’s be real. If this dude was head chef and the manager he would be making some really good bread. He could be clearing well over 70k a year. Restaurants make money
From what he was saying near the end, he thought he was "going places". So I can only conclude he had plans to be a chef at a really nice place in the future some time.
@Henry Townshed The Medical Examiner stated: No Fractures of her Spine(So him saying he accidently broke her neck; isn't true) She did Heroin before getting in his car, Medical Examiner said she had NO drugs in her system(Shoots that lie down) and She was not pregnant. So after reading the Medical Examiner's report, I guess I am with the person that said he did it to keep his job...I mean what else could it be..his girlfriend already knew about Savannah.
@AlekZ , I have no idea why I wrote that comment. It was 7 months ago. I'd have to rewatch it again to see why I wrote that. Back then, I watched it three times and I looked for other videos on it to get some more information, which they didn't have any back then. I did notice that my comment got thirty likes. That means thirty people must have been picking up on the same thing I was. I just now read the comments above mine as I was looking for mine and also trying to jog my memory. Somebody wrote that he probably got her pregnant and didn't want that. Well there's a recent case with that same motive. It seems to be a common reason for murder. Of course an autopsy should show that. But do these shows really give you all of the information? I think not. And on this case ( it was puzzling ) i was looking for more information and I couldn't find it. So because of that, that's why I must have tried to take a harder guess.
@AlekZ , ok, I just rewatched the video. You're right. I did not get the information from just that video. I must have found more information on it some how, some where because I'm pretty sure there was no more video information. Maybe just one. I also like to dig through the comment. Sometimes you will find people close to this case like who live in that same town. So, I remember information about their hangouts, gossip at work, close talk with a friend, and girlfriend number one threatening to leave if he didn't stop seeing her. So there must be another video out. Also google his name. After 7 months they might have some more info on it. One of her parents, or both were also addicts. But at any rate the only thing this video has is at time stamp 15:30 to 16:22 where he explains to her to quit gossiping that we are still seeing each other. That it was against company policy. That they agreed to split and she said, F you. And that she said that she would continue lying. So since we know that he lies, this could be part true. I could infer that... I could infer anything really. I could even assume that she was pregnant. Cause I like that comment. He felt threatened to want to kill her. He could have said, my old lady says stop or I'll leave. And Savannah probably was fighting for him. She wanted to steal him away from her so she said, no, if you're going to keep seeing me, I'm gonna keep letting everybody know. I mean the guy made good money and he's supplying her with drugs. But that's just a guess. In this interview he says, I'm sorry to Savannah. He says, she was nice to me and somebody else was a bitch. He's so scared of girlfriend number one that he dare not use her name. And he said something else about girlfriend number one without using her name as if she put the pressure on him. So he wanted things to stay the same. He wanted that control and Savannah was now pulling the strings and he lost it. You know, a memory is coming back to me. That meeting was demanded by girlfriend number one, if my memory serves me right. Because he had to report back to her. Yeah; Definitely check into this. Put in the youtube search his name and then do another one with her name cause it is a good case.
@Henry Townshed highly doubtful. More likely mr 'rico suave' was messing around on Savannah & she found out. Then, to get even, she threatened to rat him out and get him fired.
@Let Me Catch You Slippin I was about to argue with you until I realized you were trolling, start off absurd from the beginning so you don't raise my blood pressure pls 😂
@The Thyme Cube How this guy thought the family would respond to his BS texts:
“Where’s Savannah?”
“Savannah won’t be at dinner tonight. She texted saying she’s leaving forever. This is extremely out of character but I’m willing to accept it at face value.”
“Yes, I no longer have questions about her well-being or whereabouts either. Pretty much no reason to ever bring up her name again.”
Detective : "when was the last time you saw Savanah?" Lee : "Well it all starts at the beginning. My father, was, a drinker. And a fiend. One night he goes off crazier than usual."
The irony at the end when he is crying for his own life and says "i'm gonna get my ass killed in prison." Yeah dude it's scary to contemplat being killed. Now imagine actually being killed...probably really terrifying as it is actually happening. The only reason it was difficult to watch his breakdown at the end is because he was crying for himself alone.
@Randall Flagg Really? I see why you say that but I also feel like it fits under irony. He didn't feel bad for killing her but feels bad that he may die. He wasn't scared for her or understand her fear in her murder but is now terrified that he will die. What would the correct term be? I'm genuinely asking
@Emils Kukojs I feel nothing for that thing, he semmed not human even when he was crying, the crying sound false, he was worried for his ass and there was nothing of guilt on what he was telling.
He was crying bout how shed been nice to him and bout his own stupidity too. Idk I felt that. After watching so many cases with fucking sociopats this natural feelings made me sad
Is there a "technical" reason of why they didn't release the whole interrogation? Are they afraid criminals will learn interrogation techniques or what? thanks
Lee: "Fade in. Exterior. Unnamed city. Day. The hustle and bustle is a symphony of progress. We pan past windows, each of which contain a different story, to find Jacey Lakims, 28... hot, but doesn't know it..."
Damn only 40, after that brutal murder. Most people in FL who get convicted of a murder this brutal don't get this lucky. Should've got life or death but ill settle with 40 i guess.😒😒
Laws should change. No reason to be kept alive, when the girl is dead forever and the family destroyed. It s not justice. And no, prison is not better than death. If it was everyone would ask for it and no reason for lawyers and trials
@Cole Holden if it's just a personal opinion, i get it and respect it. But if it's cause you believe in god and the bible, etc... your in the wrong book.
@Cory Fiegel nope, not accuarate. Not sure currently, but just a few years back, it was 80% to 85% if a violent crime, domestic crime, etc.. this is for the state of C.T. anyway at the time.
Like most murders, a stupid heat of the moment decision that ruins his life and more importantly ruined the lives of the victim and everyone who cared about her. I wish we put more importance and funding on prevention. If we taught conflict management in K-12, maybe people would have a slightly better idea how to prevent themselves or others from escalating to violence.
This for example. What if he'd been taught how to handle this exact scenario. Really mad, arguing with someone, and it escalates to the point of having violent impulses. If he'd been trained to recognize this feeling and how to handle it, maybe she'd be alive and well today. Her parents would still have a daughter. He'd still have a normal life.
@Cory Fiegel ok. I had to Google it. Parole has been abolished in Florida. You must serve 85 % of sentence. You can earn 15% "good time. " You're better off with a life sentence where you can be released after 25 years. 40 years you have to do 34. They just passed a new law this year where you only have to serve 65 percent but I do t know if that is retroactive.
@CleverTaco My friend the Bible doesn't say you go to a dark dreamless sleep. It says the Dead know nothing. Which in the context makes sense. But we will ALL come before God
@Baku I mean tay k was kind of a menace to society. I don't get why people wanted dude free when he legit was laying down the innocent he deserved life too. Making good music isn't a reason to want him free because if he was just some random dude everyone would want him in prison for life.
i feel like everything he said about what happened in the car is true, also I feel like she did continuingly slap him NOW! i feel like they were arguing and she was pissed(rightfully so) and she was like no bitch you not gonna use me and now act like nothing happened because you worried about your job hell yeah I'm telling everybody we slept together. then that's when she was trying to get out of the car and he kept pulling her back and she started fighting and he choked her out. now do I believe it was an accident I mean it could have been shes swinging on him he grab ger by the neck trying to push her off and because of them being in the backseat of a car the back of her head hit the door and her neck snaps. BUT if that was the case he should have just told the truth from the beginning (this is what happened and this is what I did) I mean you're still going to jail but a good lawyer could possibly argue everything happened in the heat of the moment he was in shock wasn't thinking straight blah blah blah. but the fact that he made up that ridiculous story about the green truck went on and on painting her out to be the bad guy and him the victim is complete crap
25:50 - dunno about you but I found that very poor from the women, she let her own emotions take over and went on a ramble giving him time to think. She should have said they have proof then both waited in silence to see his response. In fact from this moment on I thought she was pretty unprofessional. Just let her emotions dictate her. I think a calm approach is much more effective at getting him to confess, especially as they already have the evidence.
She's playing an act. During one of her emotional pleadings the male detective interrupted her and she so gently tappes him with her foot. He immidiately stops talking, leans back and she continues. Watch 29:45 It was all rehearsed beforehand.
I know what you said about the interrogation about saying a few sentences but you didn’t listen to the clue that he said he’s on Adderall and this is what he sounds like during this interview I’m not defending him but this is what he sounds like and giving such a long crazy answer
Haha such a staple of the comment sections on his channel I just think it's kind of funny a good chunk of these are florida.. It's a shit show down there
Detective: “So how long have you known Savannah?” Lee: “long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the fire nation attacked. Only the avatar, master of all four elements could stop them. But when the world needed him most, he vanished. 100 years past and…”
"A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Avatar, an airbender named Aang, and although his airbending skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe Aang can save the world."
The avatar is a trait for all normal humans We just have to be brave enough. That’s the only thing between us and “the avatar”. Or “Superman” or Jesus.
@AltheaTheKnight …and the Airbender said “can we do drugs and have sex?’’ But I said, “oh, no…no…no…this cannot be done for I am your superior and this would be wrong…the Gods would be distraught…”
"Long before time had a name, Ninjago was created by the First Spinjitzu Master, using the Four Weapons of Spinjitzu. The Scythe of Quakes, the Nunchucks of Lightning, the Shurikens of Ice and the Sword of Fire. Weapons so powerful, no one can handle all of their power at once!"
I just clicked on "How pretending to be crazy looks like" two weeks ago and I've been on loop ever since. This channel is brilliant. Also I'm now very aware of everything and everyone everywhere I go.
I forgot what started me in the rabbit hole of JCS - that was the video!! Pretending to be crazy! Kudos to you YouTube, also, unrelated note, does anyone know what a healthy sleep cycle looks like
same, and now im taking two psych classes, a forensics class and switching my major to anthropology and thinking about minoring in psych because of this channel.
As long as you’re not making uniformed opinions based on shallow observations, there’s so much more to human psychology, you have to know a lot to realize you don’t know even know the half of it.
@V Vey I agree. The other detective tries to divert from what she’s doing sometimes. Maybe she’s trying to play on his emotion because she’s a woman and a mother, but it’s definitely too much and looks fake. I’d be annoyed with her, guilty or not.
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It's interesting how much quantum mechanics actually influenced the world before it was even officially coined. Scientists like Einstein inadvertently used it on a fundamental level, without fully realizing what he was playing around with.
@Jordan Francis more like it's hard to read because there's no paragraph breaks due to the same reason it was just copy pasted. Coming from someone who's double majoring in math and physics
The only thing I disagree with is that innocent people wouldn't fear the interrogation process.... I feel guilty and scared the moment someone suspects me of something. I wouldn't say that's an unusual response.
Absolute same! Theres always the fear of being wrongly accused of something :,((( and what if I say something that might incriminate but in reality I'm just a dumdum who says dumdum things
@Xavi I don't know anymore😥 That must mean I'm guilty.
Jokes aside, I might be the perfect candidate for these experiments where they plant memories into "suspects" so they confess to crimes they never did. It's a real thing and kind of worrying that suggestion can do that.
You're also afraid of the possibility that people won't believe you. It's always a possibility that you'll be accused and your innocence not recognized. Happens all the time, if in personal situations or criminal investigations.
I also disagree with another thing, the narrator says that like innocent people answer short and guilty people talk long with a lot of detail. But also, and I’m not at all saying that he is innocent because of course not, he had taken ADHD medicine and that can also make you ramble like that imo
Agreed, people get nervous when they get pulled over for minor traffic offences, could only imagine throwing them in a tiny room and accusing them of murder.
When I talk to a confrontational person, especially if it’s someone I know or “should” be kind, I choke up when I try to talk, though I will try to talk more than usual.
Any sort of confrontation makes me nervous to the point of being ill, crying, shaking, fidgeting, rambling/going off topic, not looking people in the eyes, quickly changing emotions, random yelling and anger, hyperfixation and hyperventilation.
I think we all think this until we're innocent and bring interrogated. I doubt most people would act like this guy if they were innocent despite thinking we would
I remember something from when I was a kid. We had to switch places in class for something, I don't remember what. And at the end of class, one girl found one of her stuff broken, I don't remember what it was, maybe a pencil or a ruler. So the teacher took out the three kids who had been working on her desk during class that day. I was one of them. She made us sit on a bench and made eye contact with us in silence during a few minutes until she should see which one of us was guilty. The boy was looking at her right in the eyes, he was a very honest kid. The girl was completely avoiding her eyes. I was able to watch her in the eyes for a few seconds but she looked so angry that I couldn't stand her gaze. Now of course the girl was responsible, it was easy to tell. There is a difference between real shame and intimidation, I hope all cops can tell like my teacher could. Even though I was feeling bad and afraid, I was not feeling guilt, and the way I acted was different from the way the other girl acted.
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Ana L2021-05-31 11:07:26 (edited 2021-05-31 11:08:29 )
@Utkarsh Gupta I mean I’ve never been accused of murder 😂, but I remember when I would used to get in trouble as a kid and sometimes I would get punished for stuff I never even did. Like I would look super sus even though I didn’t do anything. I wouldn’t even say anything because I felt that I would look so stupid if I said I didn’t do it because it seemed so obvious that I did do it.
I know that’s super different, but like there are cases where people say they committed a crime and turns out that they didn’t. So I can sort of get it in a way.
Get a lawyer the moment police start asking you questions, that's all I can say. Innocent people want and appreciate the help and knowing they are innocent, don't care how that request will be perceived.
I agree!! I would be freaking out !! Haha and crying and pleading to let me go. I would probably look soooo guilty and be thrown into prison 😂 because I’m a dum dum too
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Vlad the Impala2021-05-31 12:59:53 (edited 2021-05-31 13:04:51 )
@Riot Grrrl I agree with you. I’ve seen enough cop shows (and had one personal experience) to know that when they’re interrogating you they’ve already decided that you’re guilty. When they tell you that you have the right to remain silent and that you can have a lawyer, ask for a lawyer and then clam up. The detective is not your friend. He tries to build a rapport with you so you’ll relax a little and say something that they can use against you. The personal experience I mentioned was when I was accused of stealing $300.00 from a place I worked. I can only imagine how much scarier it would have been if I was accused of murder. I knew I hadn’t taken the money and I was pretty sure I knew who did. I told the detective who I thought it was and he just kept coming at me with insults and accusations. I finally told him that I’d been cooperative with him but he had shown me no consideration and that he should either arrest me or stop with the third degree. I never heard from him again after that. As far as I know they never even checked the other guy out although there’s no reason to assume that I’d know if they had. But I never heard anything about him being questioned and to this day those people think that I stole money from them.
Usually, when people are lying they're calmer, because they not only want to look innocent, but also had time to prepare for the likes of the questions they get. When someone is innocent, but is falsely accused they usually will be nervous and loud, because they were caught off guard and really annoyed. They want to get out of the situation as fast as possible and are really annoyed, because they told the truth and it looks like nobody believes them. This is why their answers could be quick and short, because they want to get over with it fast and also aren't prepared to hold a whole speech about their lives. Maybe they would tell more information, but only what they see to prove their point. Of course everyone is different and it depends on the personality.
@OhighO Skater I know some people are wrongly convicted. I hope it’s not a lot of people but I think one way that we could cut down on that is if it was found that the police were at fault there would be consequences. If it was just a mistake the consequences could be fairly light because we all make mistakes but if they carelessly closed the case just because they were in a hurry or worse, deliberately framed someone, then the consequences should be severe. Also if someone falsely accuses someone then the accuser should be subject to the same penalty that they tried to inflict on someone else.
Plus I think it’s justifiable to an extent to feel the need to be very detailed when asked in interrogation. Even if you aren’t guilty, you still want to prove that and giving short answers may not seem like the best idea
@Silvia Senka True, also I've always heard the opposite (even in psychology classes). People telling a true story give details, liars are rather brief.
100%. My older brother once confessed to a crime he did not commit. A dog was hit by a car and a neighbor kid who disliked us blamed my brother (who didn't know how to drive or own a car). Some shitty detectives will break you down to the point where you'll say anything to get out of that room. Its not always about finding the guilty as much as them finding someone/anyone to be charged and convicted. My brother had emotional problems and left the police station shell shocked. He was let off only because the kid who lied kept changing his story.
I once paid with an debitcart that wasnt covered. dont know how this could work. but yeah... somehow this 3 euro charge back led to an investigation of advanced wire fraud and i was questioned by the german kriminalpolizei (so a detective). She asked me how I was able to hack the biggest financial institution in germany. They had gained full acces to all my bankaccounts with a warrant. Some how my basic knowledge as someone who is able to fix printers led to the assumption, that I was able to manipulate the accounting of a bank. For 3 Euro Workinggloves.
In the end I promissed, that I would go directly to the store and pay them their money. The state attorney dissmissed the charge due to missing public intresst.
I realy want to know how much money that whole investigation cost. Stateattorney, the police detetive... probably 500 euros....
What are you implying I did? lol, Of course you're right, I bet we all hate the inferred accusation of guilt in conversation. It's that "I'm a suspect" thing and it will generate reactions...also, maybe I did it! ha!
I agree so strongly, I know the idea that "if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear", but it's scary to be suspected of something so evil, especially considering how many people are locked up or worse all whilst being innocent.
Same tbh. I also have terrible memory and tend to overshare quite a bit when I'm nervous or anxious. So yeah I feel like if I ever become a witness/suspect of a crime at any point, I'd be fucked ahaha 😅
@Silvia Senka That’s understandable. You want to convince them that you’re innocent. But the more you say the more ammunition you give them to use against you. Your best bet is to say as little as possible. If they say that you have the right to remain silent and that if you choose to give up that right, anything you say can and will be used against you ... take it seriously. Don’t think “Oh well I’m innocent, I have nothing to hide. It’ll be fine.” You have the right to an attorney. Insist on it. It won’t be pleasant after that. They might leave you sitting in a room for a long time. They do that on purpose to make you feel like you’d do anything to get out of that room. They’re trying to wear you down. Also you having the right to remain silent doesn’t mean that they have to stop asking you questions. They’ll try to make you feel like you’re guilty of something. Even if it’s not the thing they’re grilling you about. BUT If it was me and someone was missing and I didn’t know if they were alive or dead and I knew something that might help them find the person I would tell them what I knew even if it wasn’t strategically the best thing for me. I’d want to help them find the person if there was a chance they were still alive. That’s not the time to be thinking about covering your own ass. If that’s the case though they probably won’t be playing games like making you sit in a room for a long time because they’ll be wanting to find the person ASAP.
Yeah introvert people are like that most of the time since we don't know how to interact with other in situations like this and I'm introvert and my heart raises everytime my teacher or a principal announce that someone did something bad and here's what needs to happen or when I hear the police alarm from afar...I'm like was that me? Despite knowing I haven't done anything wrong...
Same, I have a lot of intense anxiety for absolutely nothing so being interrogated by the police would make me super nervous even if I had nothing to do with the crime.
Im exactly the same. Like if I see a cop car driving behind me or I see security look at me for a moment while I'm shopping. Even tho I know I haven't done anything wrong I start to panic that I will get intotrouble. Idk if its an anxiety thing or what. But I can't even imagine what my anxiety would do if I was taken in for questioning. Like I tend to word vomit when I have anxiety plus I talk ALOT normally anyways. My husband likes to use throw line from justified "I love how you talk, using 40 words where 4 will suffice"
So with my already natural tendency to talk alot on top if my anxiety and my stress induced word vomit I wouldn't be calm while getting questioned even if I didnt didn't anything wrong hell even if they were just asking me questions as a witness I'd have the same bad reaction
@Utkarsh Gupta not necessarily, this youtube channel has another video on wrongfully accused, it presents 2 different cases. One who gets angry and another who doesn't. It's very interesting. Check it out.
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Martina Laray2021-05-31 21:23:42 (edited 2021-05-31 21:29:20 )
I agree. I feel like I would be scared even though I know I'm innocent for the simple fact that I think they wouldn't believe me. That would probably cause me to over analyze my responses and be way more in depth with explaining things. Being falsely accused of something is a big fear of mine for this reason. I know it's stupid to think that way, but I feel like I wouldn't be able to help being nervous in a situation like this. I've only been pulled over one time but I automatically went in to full panic mode before the cop even said anything. He just wanted to let me know my tail light wasn't working and I was over there deep breathing all nervous and anxious for no reason lol
On a serious note, this channel does have some videos on wrongful conviction. Guilty until proven innocent and Jeff come to mind.
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Matt Nowlin2021-05-31 22:00:10 (edited 2021-05-31 22:01:30 )
I agree. Bad detectives make people commit false confessions all the time. Everyone gets nervous when a cop gets behind them even when they've done nothing wrong, imagine what they can do when your in an interrogation room.
This guys guilty no doubt, obviously. I'm just saying.
Being scared and/or agitated doesn't mean you're guilty to be fair. If you know you weren't guilty and you tell the truth confidently, you'll be fine. Watch the video on this channel called "Guilty until proven innocent" for some great examples. Those people were innocent, they knew they were innocent, and they were very confident, albeit in different ways.
One guy was very loud and clearly certain that it was not him, and was scared that it was being pinned on him. The other guy was trying to be helpful and behaved in a very reserved way, and was obviously, clearly innocent despite the extremely aggressive interrogation tactics. The thing they had in common is they weren't inventing stories, they weren't navigating through their own lies to come up with alibis, they weren't nervous. They were telling the truth and knew it.
@PaddyRoon7 I seen that. And I understand I'm just saying some cops will coerse people into false confessions with their power and techniques. And cause people to go to jail or prison for long periods of time. Alot of time the people end up sueing them for that too and getting Money compensation which I think is what that guy in the guilty video did. Not all cops are like that but it's unfortunate that some are, and that's was nerve racking about it to me.
Considering how absurdly corrupt cops are and how eager they are to get confessions and convictions over are else, it is not only normal, but should in fact be entirely expected that you should go into an interrogation afraid, because it doesn't mean jack shit if you're innocent.
For real. I got pulled over once in the middle of the night because I drifted off to sleep while driving and was so terrified they thought I was drunk that I couldn't even look at them. Perked right up when it happened though, so when they gave me a field sobriety test it was fine. They offered to drive me home and park my car in the locked police lot for me overnight and I took them up on it, and even on the ride home I couldn't look at them because of how embarrassed and scared I was. Those get brought up as signs of guilt all the time on this channel, if I ever get brought in for questioning I'm going right to jail.
True. I was once profiled & pulled over for no reason after dropping a relative off in a "rough" neighborhood in the middle of the day. The cop literally interrogated me about drugs & asked to search my car claiming I was acting "nervous", like I had something to hide, & had been driving over the lines which was lie. I was sober af with a clean driving record & everything valid. I told him I have anxiety to explain why I was visibly nervous. I've never sold or done drugs or crime in my life & had broken no laws but I was nervous. My voice was trembling & heart racing thinking he would harm or frame me. To get it over with I cooperated & let him search my car which was humiliating. He found nothing & let me go without even a ticket. Ironically....while profiling me, he pretended to be a friend the entire time, even commented that his wife also has anxiety to appear sympathetic. To this day I regret not refusing his search without a warrant. I may have "appeared" guilty of something to him but I wasn't.
It is a different type of fear. It should be. The odds game says you are not likely to be in trouble, if you are innocent. Innocent people sure do get screwed, but more often than not, they don't.
i have adhd and a lot of "tells" for lying or guilt are just me being bored and trying to entertain myself so i can think clearly. a bland room with no stimuli besides the cops trying to get me to admit to a crime i didnt do, id be a wreck but its bc im neurodivergent not a criminal lol
I was interrogated about something I didn't do and reacted about the same. Getting interrogated can be so stressful, trying to remember insane details ("last year, at what hour did you talk to that person? What was the date?" Why would I remember that at the top of my head?) And the hopelessness of knowing that you did nothing wrong, yet not being trusted.
But they did get the guy who did it. F**k him, I hope he never get out of jail :)
@Vlad the Impala Yeah, I am German so I know that our state attorneys always investigate for some crazy stuff. I went to a sit in in the entrance of the us airbase in frankfurt once. We where carried away by police officers. i was charged with "schwerer Landesfriedensbruch" - (major case of disturbing the peace of germany), resisting arrest, coercion (some drivers exiting the airbase had to use another exit), illegal entry of a military compound, trespassing on protected forgin grounds (like an embassy). I was 14. I send them a letter with a hand drawen picture, my dad paid a symbolic fine of 120 Deutsche Mark and all charges where dropped.
In my experience at least for minor crimes germany is one of the few countries in the world where you are better of talking to the police and confessing something instead of hiring a lawyer and going to court. You pay a smal fine and the case is dismissed.
One last story because its so funy: I was riding my bike during a heavy rainfall. Slipped on the tracks of the tram and crashed head first into an old vw golf. Made a pretty big dent. The police was called. The owner didnt care much. But I was charged with causing a traffic accident with a human casulty. Forget anything I said about german laws being soft - that isnt true for traffic laws. They are hardcore - the result of every german driving as fast as posible anywhere.
I went to the intorigation. Explained my case. After 3 Minutes we switched to smalltalk. Case was dismissed.
@emergcon Yes I understand that they take driving very seriously in Germany. Too bad Americans don’t. We have drivers here who will drive below the speed limit and won’t get out of the fast lane. That doesn’t happen on the Autobahn. My cousins who grew up in Germany told me that if you’re going 100 mph on the Autobahn and you see a car getting larger in your rear view mirror you’d BETTER move over. I’ve also heard that Porsche doesn’t put cup holders in the cars they build for the domestic market because they don’t understand why anyone would be drinking anything (even coffee) while they’re driving. When you’re driving you’re supposed to be paying attention to what you’re doing, not relaxing with a refreshing beverage. 🥴 I understand that the roads in Germany are much better too, at least the Autobahn. I saw a television show about it one time and a guy said that you haven’t lived until you’ve driven a Porsche 200 mph on the Autobahn while listening to Beethoven. I guess I haven’t lived but I would like to try it sometime. Maybe not quite that fast though.
Same. Everyone assumes the worst of me and thinks I'm stealing from them or doing something bad causw I always look guilty. I coukdnt imagine if accused me of murder and tried to interrogate me😭
U r not alone. Haha. Its so intriguing how evil some people are...And u get to learn from their mistakes...not to murder or lie or talk without an attorney. Now I suspect JCS is an attorney. Hahaha
Did you think of that comment all by yourself or had you read in about a hundred other posts? I didn't notice him pretending to act "crazy"; what did you see that made him seem unbalanced?
Exact same thing happened to me. How "Pretending to be crazy looks like" was probably the most interesting video I have ever seen, makes you get really into psychology
Welcome to the fold friend. Just wait til a new one comes out after a 6-8 month wait. You’ll instantly shit yourself with happiness. You’ve been warned. Plan accordingly.
@Dylan Stop making shit up. OP didn't say anything about a "narrator" - only you did that. OP spoke only about the "creator" - "the way the creator narrates".
Mibenge Bunyolo :::::just the opposite ! It’s like being read to when I can read. His paraphrasing (narrating) totally dominates and is distracting....imo////it is what a BadWebsite would be like causing deflation of enthusiasm...imo
@kirby possibly but you know he had to feel that regret. He knew right away he was ruined but no sympathy can be felt, he felt the need to remove someone from the planet and ruin a family.
@kirby The only sympathy I felt for this dude was that he still cant just own up and stuff. I feel bad because he doesnt admit to himself that he's the monster. He cries out of fear of consequence, but I hope he gets locked up so he has a LONG time to think about what he's done. I want him to realize no apology will ever be enough, I wish he had a a conscience like said previously. He doesn't deserve to live outside of a jail.
That clip at the end made me realize that we're all just one step away from madness, we might not end up fucking killing someone, but doing something stupid for sure. This guy definitively looks like a douchebag, but I don't think he had ever killed someone or even tried to kill someone before.
I think some people are reading too much into this.. Seemed a pretty genuine reaction to me, he probably regretted the whole situation and thought he was such an idiot for killing her just to keep his shit job (which he was), and also later for confessing. He really doesn't seem like the criminal mastermind who would put on a show for the camera right after he broke down and confessed the whole thing to the detectives.. Also, his claim of self-defense could've been suggested by his lawyer to aim for a lesser sentence?
For real maybe I am a psycho but I could have watched that go on for a lot longer....very interesting to watch someone realize they just completely fucked their life...
@My account 2 It depends of what cain of murdered are you talking about. All different mental illness it's a different respond to the murder that they commit or something that they did. So some of them can sligthly have sympathy.
@Travis JP he wasnt very high by that point probably. they let him sit in there for an hour and a half to begin with. that stuff does last a long time though. he said he took one in the morning but he was talking to the police so im sure he wouldve downplayed whatever he took and how much
What's fucked is I went through a similar situation but It was possession and it just remindes me of when I was handcuffed in my backyard with my family around me. I just boiled it all down to how much money I just lost my hard working family
@kirby I don't know man... I haven't done anything close to what this guy did, but I'vde definetly done the "shittalk yourself after fucking up big" thing. Seeing him like that felt very familiar
@myself0and0i right. The reaction was genuine. I feel like it was his narcissism at his weakest point that made him break down into tears. Its all about him. I kinda got that notion when JCS said he was known for his charisma and being liked by his peers. Hence him saying "fucking savannah" and "she was nice to you but of course someone was a bitch how does that work". He never cared that he killed Savannah, those detectives broke him to a point where he thought no one could ever get him to. Probably why he ended up claiming self defense later on. He started listening to his NPD again and went back to hating savannah.
@napalot, well, just because someone has a conscience, does not mean they want to spend the rest of their life in prison, regardless of what they have done. Having a conscience is not inclusive with always telling the truth, and we all know that.
I'll be honest, I do this too when I've felt horrible about something. Though most people probably don't talk to themselves out loud as much as I do... I think it may be a nervous compulsion though. Id probably have about the same reaction he had.
When she started begging I was expecting an interjection from the narrator: "The female detective has now initiated what's known as the 'Desparately pleading and begging for a confession' technique"
I get why she did it though. She was really trying to appeal to his emotions, which they ultimately did do. The breakdown at the end clearly shows that homie was emotionally unstable. I don't agree with her methods but you can't argue with the results.
To anyone talking shit about the female interrogator, you realize it got the confession right? They worked him up to confess. Ffs he burned the body if they didnt get him to talk there would be missing information. You think if 2 monotone super collected dudes kept calmly asking him shit he would have broke down and told them everything?
Got irritated with the fact that it was Good Cop (man) and Nagging Cop (woman). They should have shut up at some stage and just sat and watched him until he speaks to break the silence.
I thought she was going to have better interrogation skills than he did, but clearly she has TERRIBLE interrogation skills. She should have just not been there. I’m sure the guy is so annoyed she keeps crying and begging, it’s really embarrassing
Tay Davies what do you mean has it really worked? Didn’t you watch the end of the video where it says that he confessed... I guess we watched different videos. She is a professional and was not in that room by accident.
ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING LOL That's part of interrogation 101, not much different of "where is she, TELL ME" I mean of course it sounds cheesy to us but the dude is processing that shit in a totally different manner.
Laugh as much us you can, but what she did is part of an acting, and is also a technique that works for some people who not really evil. If the guy was a seriel killer and evil man then this technique won’t work at all.
Don't know why some people always like to find fault in anything. She was doing her job and it was the "desperately pleading techniques" that actually got the guy to crack.
@Jane Doe Sir I am dead serious you need to go talk to a doctor. Your comments are near illegible. Whatevers going on inside your head, venting it on the internet is not the place for it. Please go seek professional help from a doctor.
An awful lot of you are getting on her case like you're a professional too. I'd like to see you get a confession out of the guy. She did her job, and obviously she did it well.
DecrepitOrigin888 I think you are way off the mark,the wannabe meryl Streep had nothing to do with it. It was the cctv trail and evidence, plus his alibi being shot to pieces that led to the confession. Meryl is now totally committed to her amateur dramatic group where she is rehearsing a play called “ good cop, desperate cop”😂
Male officer uses interrogation techniques: Yes, I see what he's trying to do, he's coaxing an emotional response to destabilize the perp. Basic, but effective.
Female officer uses interrogation techniques: WhY hEr VoIcE aNnOyInG tHo?
This reply section reeks of misogyny. I'm not one to throw that word around but come on boys, the tactic worked. 'Imagine living with her'? What has that to do with anything. Grow up.
@Riette G stopping to let him break the silence is dangerous because he could get out of their flow and start thinking of other things than answering their questions. If he was given a break he could have relised he should ask for a lawyer or just refuse to speak
I used to wonder why everyone weren't gorgeous looking genetically, and I concluded it is dangerous. Savannah was beautiful. Beautiful women will bring stupid men to madness when they reject them. I imagine she broke up with him that day.
It's scary how charming people seem but they could be killing people in the back of a car seat. My trust issues are getting worse and worse watching all these videos Istg.
Who the hell would be so worried about losing their job at BONEFISH?! You could get fired then go to Long John Silvers that same day and get another job.
i do that thing when you already know the truth but you pretend not to so the liar will be trapped in its lies. i do that to my sister because she lies so much. i didn't know i've been an investigator for years
Okay this female detectives 2nd row high school drama club acting is ridiculous. I would burst out laughing as soon as she starts that fake hysterical bullshit.😂😂😂
Anyone else annoyed with the "please please" lady? Jeez...if I was the suspect I would feel so powerful knowing how utterly desperate and upset they are to get my answer. It would make me totally not want to talk to keep that power. That is some terrible interrogation skills when he already showed several times that he doesn't have kids and he doesn't give a shit...why would that work on him?
You mean the detective who helped get a confession and put him away for 40 years? Lol. It was a carefully calculated persona working in conjunction with the other detective as an interrogation strategy.
That last segment, fuckin’ whoa man. Today I realized I talk to myself like a murderer talks to themselves bc ~*depression n shit~, and maybe I shouldn’t be so harsh on myself ‘cus I ain’t never killed nobody. Maybe there’s hope, lolol.
When I used heroin the only time I got paranoid is when a cop would be somewhere behind me while driving and having a couple grams on me lol. Besides that I was super energetic and very talkative. I would be muti-tasking everything at a fast pace lol When that energizer bunny disappeared though Id start noddin off and fall asleep where ever I was at lol
Never interrupt a suspect, when they are lying. Let them dig their own grave. If you then confront them with their lie they have to built a whole other story.
SPOILER IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE VIDEO: His ultimate answer as to what happened doesn't seem that far off, honestly. Do I think it was self-defense? HELL, NO! Do I think he roughed her up a bit and accidentally did what he claimed to have done? It's possible. Either way, it's tragic. I'm going to look more into this because this video doesn't show if people who knew him said he was a violent person. Then again this douchebag persona leads me to believe he could easily be a woman-beater, but not necessarily a murderer.
What gets me is that we have hi def cameras on everyday phones and yet cctv cameras are grainy as shit, when they are supposedly meant to be used for community safety.
Detective: "So how long have you known savanna?" Lee: "I struggle to find the right words to describe just how much I hate the French language. I'm not racist but I think the world would really be a better place if all French speakers just stopped speaking French and learned a normal language. Nothing about this language remotely makes sense, or is even internally consistent. Why are there so many silent letters? Half the words have pronunciations which somewhat resemble their spelling, and the other half seems like French people just decided to add a bunch of letters so they can act like they're better than everyone else. The language seems like it's deliberately constructed to be as difficult to learn as possible. Why the hell do verbs have different conjugations for you, me, he/she, we, you(plural), and them? Even the English language doesn't have that many arbitrary conjugations."
"I made an honest attempt to learn French, I really did, but the language is just filled with bullshit rules for grammar and everything else. Whichever way you look at it, it's almost as if French is constructed to be as difficult to learn as possible. For real, English isn't my first language but I learned it just fine; trying to learn French after that feels like bashing my head against the wall. This is somewhat irrelevant, but I've heard that some French speakers who speak some English like to pretend they don't speak it when you talk to them. Why do you have to make life difficult for everyone, I'm not going to make fun of you for speaking English poorly. That's not even mentioning how metropolitan French has a superiority complex over other variations of French, all neutral observers will agree that they are equally shit. Also I've heard that some French speakers tend to discriminate against people who speak a local dialect of French, as if one version of a language is better than all others. Sure, the same thing happens with English, but at least the English language doesn't suck"
@mydemonswontleavemealone Just because a few police are racist, it doesnt mean all are. I am by no means saying that police brutality is alright, but it doesnt occur with most cops so why blame all cops? If a chef murders someone, it doesnt mean that all chefs are murderers, right?
@mydemonswontleavemealone I have done my research and I can say that a 99% rate of police being racist is completely absurd. What I would like to ask you though is this: if there is an armed robbery at a bank or store, who will be there to stop it and discourage future crimes from happening if police are out of the picture?
@mydemonswontleavemealone It's people like you who are the problem in America, not the Police. The democratic party has become a echo chamber for extreme, and irrational propaganda. As someone who has always supported the concept of free university, and free healthcare for all, it hurts to know that in order to assure those around me protection for criminals, I no longer can support the political party that I agreed with on almost all controversies only a few years ago. There is no longer a political party for those of us who support rational left leaning ideologies, there is only the right, and extremists. I encourage you to rethink your stance, as your actions are only pushing people away from agreeing with you.
@Nagol _06 If all chefs were armed and their job descriptions were changed to protecting and serving the public and they started routinely killing unarmed civilians we might want to look into the culture and system that supports them
I hate that the prosecutor didn't release the full interrogation. That doesn't exactly scream "transparency & accountability" Obviously this guy was guilty. But the full recording should've been released so The People have a chance to review it. It is public safety after all.
The fact that people who commit crimes such as murder or kidnapping never have a lawyer because they think they aren’t going to get caught. Shows how far their plan never reaches because they never actually made a plan
That’s why the slow reveal of the evidence by the second detective was key. Sometimes the mention without the physical proof is better, it still withholds enough to throw the accused off.
Metoo. I'm not a good liar. They knew he did it. That's exactly what I would tell the monster who choked that poor woman too death. Why? She owe him money for drugs?
Disney Disney Haha... I don’t know I think I would enjoy it in situations like this where I knew they were guilty. The times where there’s more uncertainty is when it’s gotta be really tough because you never want to have someone innocent going to jail on your hands
Yes, you would be a bad interrogator. The video does not definitively identify him as it's not clear, even with a chevy malibu exiting the lot (that is a very common car and the license plate cannot be made out on the video.) Trying to get a confession out of him is the best way of getting a conviction. A decent defense attorney could discredit that video as reasonable doubt. What they are doing is letting him know that he forgot about the cctv cameras all over the parking lot (which as a Manager of a restaurant in that plaza, he should be fully aware of) while they searching his car for her blood and other evidence. It worked and he dissolves into the self-pitying piece of psychopath shit that we all could see he is in front of another camera, which I guarantee he knows about, as he attempts to engender sympathy for his sentencing hearing.
Lol the reason they wont do things like that is because they want him to lock himself into a story before he is aware of any details or information that he can try to explain away or incorporate into his lies. Also, if he were to come back to that statement in the event that he confesses, if he were to acknowledge his lie on that particular detail but then later recanted, they could point to that moment as being proof that he clearly knew more than he claims post-confession recantation.
I'm wondering if it was an accident like he fought with her but didn't have intention of killing her. A 90 pound female it wouldn't be hard to break her neck in a struggle. He shouldn't have burned her body though..he should have called the police immediately and maybe he would have got manslaughter
Im 27 with a-lot of grey hairs. This is what causes it. This world is so cruel man. Sometimes I wish the universe never decreed for me to exist because I feel like I’m too weak to acknowledge the horrible things that happen in this world and it will eventually damage my psyche. RIP Savanna. You were killed unjustly. Your in a better place now. If these judges don’t give you the justice you deserve don’t worry. There is still the judge of all judges who will not accept any of his creation to be oppressed.
I myself came to similar conclusions once (it is easy to reach such conclusions when you look at a lot of information about the crimes), but one day I saw a comment that changed my perspective: at every crime scene, at every incident, at every place where something bad happened there are always those who help.
"He was known for his charm and charisma..." Proceeds to show pictures of him looking like the quintessential douchebag. Ah yes, the famous Florida charm.
@Let Me Catch You Slippin I understand the feeling sorry for him, it’s obviously horrible to imagine what he’s going through in those final clips. But I have to disagree on him seeming nice. He murdered another person. And not even for a “decent” reason. He has to face justice.
@Rafael Crabs florida , like the United States as a whole, is a large, diverse place, and so there is a wide range of environments and situations here. I live in Pinellas County in Florida and it's absolutely beautiful.
@Rafael Crabs you're describing a poor place just above trashy.
Florida ranges from stunningly beautiful to a cesspit, just like all the other states. I've only been to a few places there but I absolutely love Florida and the people I've experienced there so far.
The pictures reminded me of several men I have worked with over the years in service....and I'm in the Midwest🤣definitely can't rule out that ~florida effect~ though.
@Let Me Catch You Slippin Oh yea I wonder how nice he seemed when he was killing a young woman in the back of his car. I often wonder how people wrote Ted Bundy letters while he was in prison and wanted to marry him. You seem like the type
@Conor M Yeah, I can. That’s a decent reason for a confrontation, but not for breaking someone’s neck. You inserted the word “confrontation” when what was said was a decent reason for murder, or at least a severe thrashing that led to death.
So are you saying there was a decent reason to beat a 90lb girl to death?
@Ricky Ray right on, I wish you all the best and I'm sure you'll get that degree. Of course every city has its rough spots. Besides Scarface, Ace Ventura 1, Vice City and Disneyland I don't know anything about Florida. Someone said "Florida charm" which sounded like a thing so I wanted to sound like I was in the know and likened it to that interview of the pathetic polyamorous people from Florida. Of course Florida would have to have its nice spots but whichever neighborhood was in that interview looked tremendously sad, just that neighborhood specifically. I'd like to check out Florida some day.
If you ever make it to NZ avoid Auckland and Hamilton. Auckland is just another boring city fiercely overpriced and Hamilton reminds me of the polyamory people from Florida. Had a girl from Egypt staying at our flat for a few weeks on our couch and I asked her what she thought of Auckland and she put her fingers like half an inch apart giggling saying "it's so small" it was super amasculating, like "hey.. size doesn't matter lady. Jeez."
What people define as “charm” is subjective from person to person, but I would say anybody with logical sense wouldn’t view those pictures as charming in anyway
@ListerTR - It's a small part of the equation but I wasn't knocking his looks. The pictures they showed of him was just of him partying and being totally average. And this guy was a drug user and a selfish enough individual to kill in order to save his restaurant job. But I guess girls just like fun. So give them drugs, get them intoxicated and keep the party fun for them and then bang, you have "charisma" by today's standards.
@Let Me Catch You Slippin don’t you feel sorry for the woman he’s killed? Her body was so mutilated the autopsy wasn’t able to pinpoint the injury that killed her.
@BlankBird Actual argument? He killed her for exactly that petty reason. What do you mean? It is factually correct that that confrontation led to a murder. Hope this helps.
@Manic Mercurian I'm sure your place is great, but I do just have to say this: When I used to watch "Snapped", it seemed like every case originated from Pinellas County! Maybe it's just filled with vengeful women who pick the wrong men? I don't know...
@C Glenn I could articulate my own experience with the different areas of the county and aspects of such but at the end of the day, a picture is worth a thousand words and actually being somewhere is probably worth a lot more. At the risk of sounding condescending, I'd suggest you visit the area in order to learn whether it is "Snapped," or I, who portray the area better.
(really I don't care lol) hmm and yet I go on...
I mean really my initial point was that the US, and Florida, and even Pinellas County are all places which have a wider range of experiences than many would sometimes like to suggest or care to understand.
Yeah I'm still torn between not caring, and moving on from this comment lol, and going into the depths of my experiences and what I've observed here.
I'll just say that when I moved here, it was because I did a lot of research, and that perhaps you and I are different because when I aim to understand a place, I look at things like demographics, climate, economics etc etc as well as aim to have my own personal experience in the place. Rather than base my opinions on TV shows. Or whatever "Snapped" is.
@Surly Girly A Floridian would like that. I grew up in Vero Beach.
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C Glenn2021-01-03 05:12:04 (edited 2021-01-03 05:26:09 )
@Manic Mercurian aww, don't feel badly. I've been all over Florida, spent a lot of time in Clearwater and on some of Pinellas County's beaches, but not since 2010 during the recession. I renovated and flipped a condo in West Palm Beach, which was my favorite place in FL. I'm also a real estate investor and a parent, so what's important to me might not be important to you. The good news is that you love where you live, and that's all that matters.
@Surly Girly Yea, miss the boat on the dock in the back yard. Visiting friends and restaurants by boat. I moved away some time ago, 180° around the sphere now. When I was going to Jr high and high school. We lived north of the city on the beach. Our nearest neighbor was about 3/4 mile north. There was no one livening there at the time. (1970 ish) I left in 1990. My mom left in 2002.
@Let Me Catch You Slippin key word here is 'seems', no one who's actually nice would violently kidnap and then murder their girlfriend. He's in a lot of emotional pain, but he should be. I'm sure one day if he's actually killed in prison like he was dreading then he might understand a little bit of what that poor girl felt. Over 75% of her body had been brutalized, that's one of the more violent murders I've ever heard of. There's a lot of hate inside of that seemingly nice guy
@Conor M absolutely on point. Why I checked out of the dating game years ago, because that’s literally all it is, a game rigged from the start. Complete waste of time and money, I’m better off alone focused on my career and money. Too many risks when getting involved with a woman, as the ball is never in your court
@Rafael Crabs America is the biggest melting pot of mental illness in the entire world. I'm not sure how we got here, but it's by far not just due to lack of access to mental health care facilities like some claim. The rot runs deep. The death of respectable culture through mass media, the death of love through Tinder, and the death of friendships and family by being so spread out from one another. We really are a cancer on the world at this point.
As you say, it's livable, but everything about it pushes people into eccentric or disturbed behaviors.
@Rafael Crabs The best places in Florida are the wilderness. Florida has large areas of protected wetland, if you're a fan of nature, Florida has everything, including hundreds of species from around the world that have no business being there.
I was in Florida for a time for schooling and I saw some of the craziest coolest things in nature there. Dolphins, sharks, rays, eels, turtles, jelly fish, frogs, geckos, iguanas, those are just things I experienced, there's also gators, crocodiles, snakes, cougars, fucking monkeys man!
@Peeps and MooMoo dude... no. self defense would have been if she had been violent and tried to physically harm him first. you don’t “defend” yourself against someone’s “mind games” by killing them, sorry.
@Someone who's dead oh, its that i THINK, I KNOW they like douchebags. Anyway, i dont see anything especially douchy about this guy's photos, these commenters are just too conserved.
@Someone who's dead lolol, thats what you gotta say? Some emotional babble. Started talking like a man, ended up like a girl. Lost my attention completely.
@Conor M still doesn’t give a right to kill someone? Someone pisses you off or is annoying you? Talk to HR or the boss, nothing justifies murder until it’s self defence, rape and pedophiles and it’s none of those.
@inchara k Everything I wrote is an unfortunate fact. You can't deal with facts. I don't know what you mean by "she had it coming". As in, she deserved it? Absolutely not. And GTFOH with that "defending murderers" nonsense.
Well, an innocent person would immediately ask - "I've been pulled in here because of an outstanding ticket, why are we talking about my relationship with Savannah?"
Not to mention being isolated for 90 minutes. I would have asked to leave or have a lawyer immediately if I had waited for 90 minutes.
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R Purdy2021-05-30 07:33:42 (edited 2021-05-30 07:40:33 )
@The Prime Suspect No, it just makes sense. Cops dont haul you to the police station for a traffic infraction and then make you wait in an interrogation room by your self for an hour and a half. Something more serious is afoot here. My Spidey senses would be firing full speed. The second they read me my miranda rights I know some real shit is about to go down and I would be requesting a lawyer right away. It's my right and I'm going to use it and I'm not going to say a single word to the cops except for "I want a lawyer." I dont care what they ask me or how they ask me. I would only continue to say, "I...want...a...lawyer."
What do the miranda rights say? It says you have THE RIGHT TO A LAWYER, even a free court appointed lawyer. Why? Because also in the miranda rights it says Anything you say (to the cops or recorded by their spy cameras) CAN and WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU IN A COURT OF LAW! They say this for a reason. So your best bet is to keep you trap shut no matter what they say to you, guilty or innocent. Dont help them to hang you, they are not your friend. Even if they screw up and dont read you the miranda rights, remember that they still apply to you, you still have the right to remain SILENT! They dont like it, but tough shit, it's still your right, so exercise it, dont talk to the cops, it wont bode well for you.
@Tony Robichaud I think because both lawyers and police hate each other professionally. The police want a confession before anyone talks to a lawyer, and i’d say any lawyer watching this would also be shouting “Don’t say a word!”. So the police are never going to help you find/call a lawyer.
An innocent person would of recognized a problem once they realized they weren’t being taken to a jail cell or courthouse for the traffic ticket arrest. Nobody gets taken into an interrogation room over a common traffic offense.
@Koolerking You are absolutely right. My mom is a lawyer, and whenever I even vaguely mention police to her, she always goes off about how regardless of whether I'm innocent or guilty, I say nothing to the police without talking to her or a lawyer first. She has made it abundantly clear that I cannot talk myself out of any interrogation, and I should never try to do so.
@Koolerking There is no doubt that cops and lawyers hate each other. I've seen confrontations between them in public. But I thought there was a Miranda Law (something like that) where cops had to say to all persons soon to be in custody something like "you have the right to remain silent and if you wish to have a lawyer, one will be appointed for you". Perhaps that is in a different country and/or I'm mistaken and just saw it in a movie.
@Tony Robichaud bro they literally show it in the video, you can search it on Google, ofc that's that, how does someone not know the "you have the right to remain silence" shit, it's even in the movies, I've never been in the USA, I've never been arrested an I know them
To be fair, he was asked about savannah before this interview and even if he was innocent one could understand questions about something high profile going on like that
@R Purdy I feel like immediately asking for a lawyer makes you look far more suspicious and immediately under investigation. If you're innocent (or asking like one) it shouldn't take you too long to clear things out
@Kantanen Akseli Watch "Don't ever talk to the police". Even if you are 110% innocent, anything you say might still be enough to incriminate you. Multiple innocent people have been convicted in the past and many more will in the future by talking to cops.
After 15 minutes I would have knocked on the door and told them arraign me or let me go. If they insisted on talking I would have insisted on a lawyer and used my right to remain silent I wouldn’t have waited an hour and a half lmao.
@R Purdy That might not even work, though. Did you see the video with that one guy who DID ask for his lawyer, refused to talk to them several times, and they just kept refusing him his lawyer for DAYS until he broke and talked to them (because he realised he wasn't getting his lawyer)?
System's corrupt as hell. They can just deny you your Miranda's if they want to, by pretending they're complying and kicking it down the road. I reckon there needs to be a time limit on when they need to have contacted your lawyer - and they need to be able to prove it.
the 'Lenny' -Defense, that was the defense's strategy. I am starting to think the stimulants (probably meth) had a little to do with him savagely attacking her.
You know that really socially awkward person at a party who gives three word answers to open ended questions and can't keep a conversation going? Be that person during interrogations.
@Eric Goodemote In this case, after repeating his earlier answers from work (“We worked together”, “Last saw her a week ago”) that’s definitely what he should’ve done.
Poor girl. Miserable man. He put her down very bad by exposing her drug use. He didn't have to mention she said she had used heroin prior to getting in his back seat car. Piece of 💩. He deserved life sentence not just 40 years where he will be eligible for parole on 20.
I really hate that I'm enjoying something that was a result of someone's death, but I stumbled across this channel late last night and I've been on a mini-marathon ever since.
@Jonnyboy 2645 from what I’ve seen, many of the same interrogations but with different narrators. IMO, the narrator of this channel has a deep understanding of criminal psychology and police interrogation techniques - which make it far more interesting - while some others sound more like they’re just doing it for the ”Likes” or they just don’t have much content. Just type Interrogation of (for example) Jodi Arias and you’ll run into other channels. Also, apparently JCS also has another channel for Patreon donors too. I’m not sure what’s on that however.
Control and leverage folks- cops know shit you don’t- they put you in situations to break you down- this is their full time job. 🤐. I’m glad they caught this prick and my heart goes to her family and loved ones.
90% of restaurant cooks are snorting lines off the counter back there. Or smoking some ice. It's honestly crazy how many people in the restaurant industry do drugs and have nasty habits. Source: have worked at alot of restaurants.
@Comment Hero I've been in food service (hospitality, full service, fast food, QS+/++, delivery, and tourist-trap) for nearly twenty years and the hardest substance I've ever seen used IN kitchens is pot. Like, full stop. So I'm gonna have to take some umbrage with that '90%' hyper-exaggeration there. ^.^
@Patrick Harrington People often assume their own experiences define reality. Ive worked at plenty of restaurants, and in construction. You MIGHT have 1 or 2 people on your crew who are clearly using but its no where close to 90%, data just doesnt back that up.
@Patrick Harrington 90% of the places I worked** but still you was cooking and getting high, so my point still kinda stands lol not all the jobs I've worked, but most.of em people are getting drunk smoking pot doing coke, they're on something back there. And it is very very common with jobs like that. Shit maybe it's common with all job, I just worked alot of restaurant jobs cause I live in Florida near the beach, and yeah tourist trap. Pcola, panama city area
@Comment Hero I can attest to that. I have been in and out of the restraunt industry for about 20 years and I've worked in a variety of places. i.e. fast-food, family dining, sports bar, etc. Every place I've been employed at MOST of my coworkers and even a manager or two were getting high before and during work.
@Comment Hero Not me personally, no; pot gives me migraines like you wouldn't believe.
I won't argue with the drinking though; I swear, every full service I've ever worked, line cooks are just expected to have a quart of the cheapest beer on tap over their station with a straw sticking out of it.
To the people going on about ‘percentages of workers using drugs’ - I think it’s just ‘People’ , I’ve worked in offices (Coke, pot) , teaching ( Coke, pot, wine) …it’s just people being people. They use drugs to cope if they’re not ‘together’ in their lives !
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Robert Budnar2021-06-07 23:58:02 (edited 2021-06-07 23:59:55 )
It was a lie to cover up the fact that the wound was recent
Jay Castro just wait till 100 years from now where you can’t get away with ANY crime in public due to surveillance, the cameras that caught this guy were 5-10 years old
How do you know what he was thinking? Do you think he thought he could get away with it. Or you think he done the crime so he must have. That’s not how impulse crime works. In fact there wouldn’t be any crime with that logic.
They can, by not confessing. The security camera footage isn't enough, and if he had kept completely quiet during the entire interrogation, and had they not found Savannah's body or remains after the fact, he likely would not have been convicted. The thing about stuff like this isn't to try and find out who did it, but to prove who did it. Just because there's a 99% chance the person in question did it, pure coincidence isn't enough evidence to prove somebody guilty. You need hard evidence, like a confession, DNA evidence, or a body.
@P Funk theres certainly alot more crimes that are unsolved and crimes that occur without the government knowing. Though put to the back drop of America, generally being a much safer country than most.
Crime is a problem, but it is being managed. Though not competently
@YxVm I think he is specifically talking about such crimes where the confrontation or abduction is done in a well lit public area, pretty much guaranteed to be cameras on a lot like this nowadays, also where the victim and suspect know eachother
Last 5min u came tell he's remorseful..he'll get the help he needs in prison. Rehabilitation will work. Especially when Big black bubbah and his homies look after and watch out for him and his safety. . They'll take care of him, tuck him in at night, read him bedtime stories . He'll be fine and safe.. 100%
Does anyone in the United Soviet States of America remember that they have rights guaranteed by the Constitution? I’m amazed at how many videos they have of people blabbing away to professional interrogators. If this were me the police would have been upset at 7:12 when after 91 minutes I would have asked for an attorney.
His answer was a textbook answer for a guilty person as they explained why starting the conversation with an open end question could increase the probability of being guilty if answered in lengthy manner.
@Peeps Ahoyy “How long have you known her for?” 4 hours later “I shit you not, this motherfucker turned into a pickle. Funnies shit I’ve ever seen, bro.”
They knew he was guilty after his answer LOL Jesus man how’d y’all meet *welllll she took a lot of drugs, but her weight looked healthy she looked good we kinda were talking here and there*LOL
Twas a sunny day, and the birds in the trees were chirping. Maybe they were just singing to each other, or perhaps they were tending to their little bird children. Ahhhhhh, how distinctly I remember the smell of pine in the air, that was being wafted by the breeze that was rustling the leaves.....
He clearly only feels bad that he was caught. I mean obviously he regrets killing her but had he got away with it i think he wouldve continued living his life just as he had done before killing her. Also a lot of his crying it seems like he is kind of forcing on himself. I know that when i cry after something such as a close relative dying or making a bad mistake i know i dont have to force myself to cry and i dont have these breaks in between like he was
@King Tiger Prof fish she's probably probably doing the keke palmer meme, "sorry to this man, but I wouldn't know who he was if I saw him walking down the street" 🤣
Blackobluna problem being, if you’re dumb enough to commit a crime like murder, you’re not gonna be smart enough to take the precautions of getting a lawyer
The female detective acting incredibly disinterested is a tactic used often in interrogations. It allows the suspect to relax by assuming the questioning is “no big deal”. When she interjects - they double down on the pressure as well as revealing evidence against him. Her sudden participation knocks the suspect off guard and boyyyyyyyy it worked.
@Charles yeah she was really bad the whole time she became active in participating. She came in too early with revealing that they had proof because she was too excited to jump in, and just went overkill the remainder of the interrogation.
@Joao Pedro Catao nah, like the narrator says it was a rehearsed moment that they only used once it was clear the guy wouldn't budge, so they had to confront him with the evidence at that point, they planned it correctly. but i agree the crying and begging went too far
I’m so happy that “what pretending to be crazy looks like” showed up in my recommended videos. Binging through all of them and looking forward to more!
That is how everyone heard of this channel. I had never clicked on a murder / interrogation video and all of a sudden that video popped up. YouTube must be pushing it to distract us from something!
He basically ended her life because it jeopardized his work success. Imagine that. Dying so that someone can stay manager at what is basically olive garden.
I heard this on some tv show: you’ll never get into the killer’s mind while still projecting your own moral values onto them. You’re trying to imagine what kind of profound situation they must have found themselves in to become a murderer. But that’s just wrong. People who are capable of murder kill for the most insignificant reasons because that’s how little the lives of other people matter to them.
so true. that's why they only cry at the prospect of their life ending, never shedding a tear for the ones they've destroyed. "i'm going to die in jail wah wah wah". yet he strangled, burned, and dumped that little girl.
@J Mart nobody cries at other peoples lives ending. NEVER. If they do, its called an act. Stop being so full of yourself. Normal people might cry once or twice or 100 times, but by the time they're in court or whatever, all the tears have long washed away all emotions.
Our bodies adapt. We cannot stay forever in emotional agony. Thats why we eventually forget our ex, or any tragedy, and eventually move on. Same thing with the death of another. So if you dummy see someone crying over the death over another, its an act, especially since most people control their emotions around people and only let them out when alone/with close ones, or just dont show them
its because of people like you that all the psychopaths are mistaken for good kindhearted people, and all the good people are mistaken for psychopaths
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Maybe so, I just don't understand his logic. He could've easily gotten another job at a restaurant. There were so many other possible outcomes.
@J Mart self preservation. If only people put more thought into things like treating others as of theyd like to be treated..
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Доктор Зойдберг2021-01-05 12:24:54 (edited 2021-01-05 15:19:38 )
@Gryphon Ennis no. I may kill in self defense, but that’s not murder. That guy created the entire debacle. Even if I was that aggressive, I’d still never put my life on the line for a few moments of control over the victim. Violence is just too messy. In almost every situation there’re hundreds of ways to deal with it differently. In this case, he could have quit his job before anyone in management found out about their relationship. Or come clean to the boss and try to talk them out of firing him. It’s some shitty restaurant for fucks sake, not Vatican City, this no dating coworkers policy can’t be that strict. He could have asked Savannah to quit and offered her a great recommendation letter and/or some money in exchange. Finally, he could have done nothing and taken his chances. The worst thing to happen would have been him getting fired. Still better than going through a trial (even if the jury believed his ridiculous claim of self defense). By killing her he made his best case scenario becoming a suspect for a long long time until the case would be dropped due to lack of evidence (doubtful). Which means anything’s easier than trying to silence the girl forcefully. That’s how normal logic works. This guy thought that threatening his ex with violence is easier because he doesn’t give a shit about other people’s safety. Or life.
@Доктор Зойдберг That may be the case with regards to disregard for the value of lofez but you would think the high probability of getting caught (especially if you are clearly not very bright or criminally minded like this guy clearly wasn't) and found guilty with life in prison or death would make you think twice even if you don't see any moral issue with murdering someone.
@BLACK face Hardon would I what?, and no but he lost his life due to prison and she lost hers because of his cruel act and that's karma and that's all I was saying
@J Mart Yes, there is no remorse over the murder, just that he got caught. We must never confuse the two, though I'm pretty sure the Prosecutor never lets anyone there forget.
@Bog Meat it was accidental watch the end. he meant to self defense when savannah started slapping him, he later realised he accidentally killed a person
@Antti Ranne Nevermind found it. That's only his defense, he doesn't have any evidence justifying the claim. I find it highly suspicious, given the circumstances. Imo it's more likely he killed her intentionally.
@Доктор Зойдберг very valid point. This is why you'll see some investigators never get a confession because they're constantly trying to the gather the "why" and not the "how".
@Antti Ranne self defense plea would easily be thrown out. They'll use his height, weight, and age against him and display how the victim was smaller, younger, and more fragile and include that into how could he have feared for his life for just being slapped. Being slapped is not a viable defense for self defense. This was no accident. The only defense that could be tried is the use of his drugs affecting his moral judgement and possibly get him a lesser charge. But hiiiighly unlikely. Especially if they obtained a confession.
@J Patillo you know, that “why” part is always kinda dumb and I always want to roll my eyes at it. Maybe a psychologist would want to know why, the police only cares about securing the conviction. Doesn’t even matter if the suspect is innocent sometimes
Agreed. He clearly didn't know how to own up to his own mistakes and was willing to blame others to the point of murder, at least in the heat of the moment.
His attempts to save face at the end didn't look very appealing to say the least.
Update: Lee was sentenced to 40 years in prison for the murder of missing woman Savannah Gold in 2017. Lee Rodarte, 31, received his sentence nearly three years after he was charged with killing Gold. In the video, it says he initially pleads not guilty, which he does in 2019, but later in 2020 he plead guilty to murder in the second degree (murder that isn't premeditated and more of an in the moment action)
@Bobas WRLD It really saddens me, I almost feel sorry for him. Savannah could still be alive, and he could still be an honest working man living out his dream as a chef, and he ruined it all in a matter of minutes
@Thomas That was the first thing I thought when I saw that. It was determined to be second degree and they have video evidence of him showing remorse. It was honestly probably ruled like that just because it was a male taking the life of a female and for some reason that worse than anyone taking someone else's life.
@Panagiotis Lemontzis Well I can give you Lee's motive, but it won't make sense because there is almost nothing that can excuse the murder of an innocent young woman. He killed her because he was scared of losing his job, Savannah said she would spread lies about him sleeping with her so he would get fired because as the manager it was in Lee's contract to not have sexual relations with any employee. He couldn't deal with the stress and acted emotionally (this is why it was second degree murder rather than a planned out murder)
@Thomas I believe it is justice. Lee will be 68 years old, and its clear from this video he already regrets his actions. It was murder in the second degree, and for that I don't think he deserves a life sentence. Savannah's death was a tragedy but I do believe Lee will have changed by the end of those 40 years and nothing is gained from keeping a future "good" man in jail. People change, and there are consequences to every action, Lee will have changed by then surely and he will have accepted the consequence of a 40 year sentence.
@Mittens First degree murder is almost always a life sentence. Second degree murder is not as bad but its still murder. I don't know too much about the legal system but the punishment fits the crime here in my opinion
@Mittens Yes. unfortunately. Where do you come from? Europe like me? I. always tell my son to be thankful not to live in the USA - when it comes to get sentenced, because your life could be over.. Of course he took a young womans life, but I think it's way too harsh in such cases
@BB How is it too harsh? He shouldn’t have killed her in the first place tf? Imagine your child getting killed and then he gets like 10 years. How would you feel? And who’s to say that he won’t do it again…(btw he brutally beated 75% of her body so yeah..)
@KA.Powered There are more people in US jails than in the rest of the world put together and the right to bear arms is in the constitution. Someone ought to do the mathS one of these days and correct this incorrectional equation.
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@BB I actually feel your sentences are way too lenient. Btw that’s an awfully odd thing to tell your kid to be thankful for lol
@BB you specifically said it’s better to live in the UK because the sentencing for crimes is much harsher in the US. I mean I guess but out of a million reasons to say the UK is better you chose that.
@Test Account yey, I told him that too, because if you run into a crime by accidents you can end up in jail for 20 years, too. I come from Germany, not UK
@BB Yeah I'm from Canada, and frankly how the US handles things is terrifying. For making a mistake 40 years is kinda ridiculous. Yes, it is awful and no one should have to go through that and the parents didn't deserve it and we can go on and on. But 25 years is far more than enough time to come out a changed person.
@Jake Rubin irrespective it's a murder? n losing a job wouldnt mean he would never find another one. It's strange u get ur sentence reduced by faking remorse. At the end he is a murderer n he is still getting to live his life with free food.
Thanks for the update. The producer might want to make a new version of this video - few of his others are inconclusive like this. Also, I don't understand why he killed her. It makes me wonder if any of this was explained in the trial. How did they find her body? I guess it was based on his confession, but the producer doesn't have that part.
@Panagiotis Lemontzis the prosecutor must have had to suggest some kind of motive at trial. But this video was made before the trial, and doesn't include his confession, so we don't even know what he claimed his motive was. Or whether his confession was excluded as evidence and it contradicts his self defense story.
@Jake Rubin he might have said that but I don't believe it. Near the end of this video he says to himself, "you could have just told her to leave you alone." I wonder if they had a fight and he lost control, or if he lured her into the car to kill her. I guess if it was 2nd degree murder, the jury found it wasn't premeditated.
@Jake Rubin yeah i get you but at the same time no matter how far im pushed in these kind of situations with relationships or work i would never go as far as to kill someone or even hurt them. People like him or a ticking time bomb. If not Savannah it would have been someone else.
@Cody Isnor he murdered a 21 year old girl in a parking lot. He crossed the ultimate line and she will never come back yet he gets to walk the earth for the rest of his life, call me crazy but absolutely fuck that.
@nichrossi It is a murder, in the second degree. If you think he deserves a life sentence and that so do all second degree murderers then there's no point in even making the distinction, and that's a valid thing to say. I think there is, but I guess we disagree. Fair enough
@Kevin Morgan Yeah that's true. Like I said before to someone else, I think second degree murder deserves a lesser sentence. The average American lives 72 years, Lee will be 68 when he's out so he's practically serving a life sentence. But if you believe second degree murderers deserve life sentences too that's a fair thing to say, we just disagree
@Jake Rubin yeah I’ve read your comments after I wrote mine and I agree with pretty much everything you say. I just wonder if people like that just have it in them to kill because thinking now I’m sure if given another chance he wouldn’t kill her knowing the consequences. Crazy video anyway. Thanks for the updates too.
@Cody Isnor yeah, here in Germany for example rules the opinion that a society has to take the risk of the dangerousness of individual members. That's how it is in a welfare state
@Thomas ok it seems that you wanted to get me wrong. But maybe I expressed my opinion the wrong way. I'm sorrry for that. Anyway, the justice system in the USA is very hard understandable for me. In our welfare state rules the opinion that a society has to take the risk of the dangerousness of their individual members - like I mentioned before. We don't know that "an eye for an eye". Most Americans believe in God and the Bible. I can't understand how this fits together...
His sister killed someone too, Rodarte’s sister, Amber Camarillo, 26, is jailed in connection with a 2016 killing at a Jacksonville motel.Camarillo allegedly shot and killed Raquel Lee Wallace, 32, last December at a Super 8 Motel after a disagreement over a car, police said. Motel surveillance video shows the two women talking. It also shows Camarillo firing at least two shots at Wallace.
@Baby Girl that's actually kinda sad to know. Clearly there's some temperament issues in the family, leading to irrational acts of violence. You could hear him saying "you were supposed to be better than this;" perhaps he wanted to rise above this flaw in their genetic code and/or upbringing.
I'm glad both of them are getting the sentences they were given, but it's still a tragic situation.
@Shelley Landgren 40 years as a 28 year old. At best he can expect to be released at 68 with no family, no high paying job qualifications, his parents will most likely pass on by then so no place to live. His life is done or rather his life experience is predominately confined to a jail cell.
Full video released. YouTube it. And also..the quality is way better. Always wondered why the quality always sucks like its 1970 footage..now I suspect JCS for some reason makes it blurry. Lol Anyways it's full and unedited and over 5 hrs long. A lot of the confession is hard to understand cuz he's sobbing while he gives it so...kinda hard without JCS to add his subtitles.
@Sleepy Joe exactly. Awful situation all round. Two lives ruined. I get no satisfaction from this man being jailed, although it is necessary. Terrible situation all round.
Well technically I doubt he planned the murder ahead of time to be murder 1. Not commenting on his POS status, just how the law works and classifies murder degrees.
@MoahGentle How does ending his life equals justice? His life will just cease, he won't feel anything more, won't have any fears, won't feel any pain, regret, guilt, won't have nothing to worry, won't have to deal with people, won't have to face his consequences, won't pay for his acts, won't bring anything good at all. I'm sure he will be passing a lot of time wishing to be dead. Having to live through what you done is way worse.
@John Bravo already happened in a sense. My daughter was taken advantaged by her uncle and we both forgave him. It was a necessary step for her to move on. I believe in eternity. There is plenty of time on the other side. Revenge is not justice.
I thought the same thing! Usually they wouldn't do anything; they'd think she just ran off with a guy/friends, was out partying, or just mad at her parents or something. I was pleasantly surprised that they took it seriously as soon as it was reported! Sad how it turned out, though. I think the police really wanted and hoped to find her alive.
Mama Poch yep. I don’t know the man (thankfully) and no way of knowing if the drugs made him do that. Maybe he’s just stone cold stupid naturally, but I’m sure his habit didn’t help thinking. Even a half wit wouldn’t fire off those texts randomly.
OK, just so everyone knows, the 24 hour thing is a myth. That is not a thing its another movie and TV trope that bs in real life. For an adult they may not put full force into right away, but you dont have to wait that to file it
Jamil Salih: lol. Not that there’s anything funny at all about the fact that this girl was murdered. But I literally had written the same thing, more or less. But I erased it cuz I didn’t feel like hearing the bullshit comments that would’ve likely followed it. Real talk, tho. Straight up.
Because of the odd text and abandoned car with personal belongings inside. If your planning on running away you take clothes you take money and you typically take your car
You all are talking about how long it takes drugs to leave a living body. The autopsy report was on a dead body. I don’t think dead people are metabolizing any drugs in their system or continually excreting them through urine or poop or even sweating. You guys are googling the wrong data. You’re arguing apples to oranges trying to discredit the autopsy report. Just like a victim’s last meal it doesn’t go anywhere so at autopsy days or weeks later they can still tell what you last ate. In a living body by the end of the day your breakfast is long gone. You can’t compare the two and expect the same results.
I think the OP is pointing out another lie that this guy told that was proven untrue. Lies that hurt a person or a victim’s reputation needs to be set straight in the public record for both them and their families and loved ones sake. Desperate people make up all kinds of sick stuff in an effort to get out of trouble too many people believe it to be true and the victim can’t set the record straight in their own defense.
I literally just commented about her autopsy showing no drugs for those who were curious to know that’s all, I don’t understand why I’m getting replies saying that it doesn’t prove anything... I never said it did
@Kerstin Nilsson that's no true. Heroin has a half life of roughly 6 mins however once in your body it metabolizes into morphine. Morphine, depending on weight, metabolism, roa, can stay in your system for days. I'm a recovering addict I know this stuff 1st hand.
@Kerstin Nilsson it doesn't really work like that, they(heroin) leave behind metabolites that stay long after that can be traced. Not to mention different tests are more or less likely to show up longer, like hair and nail folicle tests will show for way longer. If she was indeed an addict or even on the stuff when she died then it would be in her system still either way. So yes, he was more than likely lying that she was high when he killed her because her body would've stopped metabolizing it at that point.
no, it means everything bc he was literally claiming that this all happened while she was high and hitting him when he was assaulting her in the back of his car. not only was she not high, but she also was probably only hitting him for self defense.
Fab G Drugs don’t magically evaporate, they leave your body through secretions such as urine, feces, and sweat. If she was on drugs when she died then the drugs would still be in her system. Drugs don’t naturally decay either, they are broken down by the body and turned into metabolites that leave through secretions. We use these metabolites as a way to detect for drugs. Heroine has a half life of a couple hours and then breaks down into 6-MAM (the metabolite used for detecting heroine) and can persist for days to weeks. Point is you people have no scientific training in toxicology and as such shouldn’t be questioning the report as if you do.
@Michael Myers LSD isn't detectable in a urine test before you're trip is even over(typically 12 hours) I don't know if it would even be detectable in other tests either seeing as the dosage for a trip is measured in micrograms, which are insanely small. I'm not 100% sure as it's been several years since I was into researching drugs, but from what I remember LSD is the most potent drug by weight on the planet. And even if you were to accidentally take 1000 doses worth at once, it's highly unlikely that you'd have any form of lasting physiological harm. Psychological is another matter, but it wouldn't directly kill you or damage your body.
@JOHN DOE Yeah, at least when you're high. Possessing it can totally make you paranoid though, when you're close to sober at least. The kind of paranoid he is trying to claim only really comes with "upper" type drugs though.
@Spit823 maybe if there was no build up because you're not a habitual user but pretty much anything besides alcohol will still test positive for atleast 3 or 4 days.
Fab G. Nit true, cannabis can be in our system for weeks even months due to it beeing stored in the fat of the body. If you ever take drugs in you life it will show in your spinal fluid almost the rest of your life. If they take a pice of hair it can be maped out like the rings of a tree and will show cemicals that is not native to the body. Drugs kan be traced for a long time after use. BUT! It only stays in the blood for 24 hours or so
Yall missed the point. He was a liar and possibly lied about more than just not MURDERING HER. We can assume he probably lied about her character as well.
@Boo Peep Thank you! Thank you and thank you! You have conveyed that you are in fact a logical and analytical thinker who also understands empathy. Those two things are difficult to find in one human being. At least, this is what I have gathered from experience. You are right. People will make up anything to try and get themselves out of trouble. I do believe that this information is vital to Savannah's character. It proved that she was not in fact paranoid from heroin when she got into Lee's car. Anyhow, whoever got paranoid from heroin? Thanks for pointing out what should have been the obvious.
@Kerstin Nilsson And, based on that you assume that this lying murderer is telling the truth? I'm sorry but that is not enough evidence to conclude that this young lady was high on heroin when she got into his car. I, for one, don't believe anything that a murderer says especially when they are saying it to try and lessen their crime.
@Spit823 heroin takes 2-7 days to get out of your system, and if she was taking it often like he said, it would've been in her system longer than 2 days.
@Spit823 not at all, some do some don't, many take a long time...for example pot takes about a month, many others have a long half life, coke passes through relatively fast
Where can we view it? It’s not that I don’t believe you...H will stay in your urine for a a week or less, more for a habitual user, but be undetectable in your blood after like, 3 days...that’s why mandatory drug screening uses urinalysis as their preferred method of screening. Pills tend to stay in the urine longer, and blood a Little linger but not much...not to say this dude isn’t a total POS and is in ANY WAY justified in what he did-and I could see him exploiting her being potentially active in her addiction as a way to discredit or devalue her existence, which is another low blow..Addiction is a disease, it’s the devil, and it’s a devil I know, so please understand that I leave this comment with 0% judgement...I’ve had friends who’s lives ended by straight up Obvious foul play, but because they were known H users their deaths were written off as either OD or potential suicide...I had one friend who was an addict for 20+ years...a “pro” if u will...when this mom of 3 who admittedly was no angel but a loving mom Doing the best she could was found unresponsive with TWO new spikes laying next to her? We all knew there was something wrong...this girl was NOT suicidal, and didn’t NEED a backup...she certainly knew what she was doing, and none of her gear was damaged...it took them like a day to write her off as an OD... Sadly, this assholes strategy to focus on her drug use was smart because (at least where I’m from) police hear “Heroin” and tend to just want to blame the one who was afflicted...glad it didn’t work out for him tho.. Source: Recovered addict of over 15yrs.
@Fab G thc can get out of your system in 72hrs if you only take 1 or 2 moderate hits. This is only the case if you have been completely clean prior to doing those few hits
@Jessica heroin gets out of my system in 2 to 3 days. Coke gets out of my system in 2-5 days. Thc can get out of my system in 2 or 3 days as well. If its only a few hits.
I used to take opiates. I would get piss tested all the time and I don’t think I ever tested positive. They even tested my blood in the hospital one time after an accident to try to prove a dui and I had done morphine the night before and I tested negative. I think it just depends on ur metabolism, and piss tests, if you drink water a lot u can pass anything including marijuana.
@Fab G Agree, it depends on what test they give you..if its blood and urine some drugs can be out of your system depending on dosage...but if they tale a hair sample you are fucked
Yeah cuz i was wanderin, if she accelerated her death by doing crackhead slapping stuff to the guy, a guy that in the end showed his "instability", but if not, as u say, he's the one into hard drugs. Thinking of how he noveld her addictions, how much he thinks it's Bad. Internet kinda cool whn u high
@Farmer Fpv they don't test for heroin they test for morphine or more specifically morphine metabolites which is what remains in your body after the morphine (which is what your body breaks H down to) is metabolized. hence 5-7 days usually more closer to ~5 tho for most people. also depends on the amount said person was using.
@trance dj Thank you.I always think of those ppl who kills in raged if you will.Why they can not stop in the moment what made them no able to do so,they born with anomalia pathologica with killings instincs.Humans are the most dangerous animal on EARTH.
@soshistars cause people are stupid, thanks for the info. I was curious as to whether that was even true or if he was just trying to tear down her character like many of these people seem to do.
@Boo Peep precisely what I was about to say before seeing your comment. Although, I don't know if burning her body might have contributed to removing any drugs present in her body. I know that in the case of activated carbon, soaking it in hydrogen peroxide, then subjecting it to intense heat will burn away all impurities it collected and recharge it for use in a water filter.
@Cheyne Smith addicts don't LOOK any sort of way. Are you serious? Do I look like a heroin addict? Do I look like a meth addict? I own a house. I drive a new 2020 Jetta. I have a wife of 11 yrs. Newsflash. I am. Usually it's the cleanest cut people that hide it the best and are hiding a lot.
@xxthatsnotmexx you should know heroin is out of your system in about 3 days. I'm an ex addict of 5 years sober for 3. I've taken hundreds of piss tests and still do every 2 weeks. Heroin is in most cases out of your system in 3 days. EDIT: I don't think she was on drugs when she died. She could have been on drugs in the past. Or it could have been a story made up by Lee at the beginning of his interview to discredit and give savvanah a bad image. There are lots of hard drugs that leave your system in 3 days though at least through urine tests. I'm not arguing about savvanah could have been an addict thats speculation. I'm arguing there are drugs that leave your system in 3 days at least detectable from urine.
@Kerstin Nilsson as a heroin addict myself I can promise you it stays in the hair for 90 days. ive done jail time for failing one after 2 months clean.
Thanks for the info. Also seems to be some non believers here. It’s very sad they couldn’t do a hair follicle test because that would’ve been truly definitive. I suppose all her hair was burned off when douche was trying to burn the body. I really hope someone is waiting for him the moment he steps out of that prison.
@Aquascape Dreaming can you tell me how the flux capacitor works & can you find out if the James Webb space telescope is ever going to launch. You seem like the person that could get some answers. 😃
I wonder if there’s any interrogations we could watch where a guilty suspect was able to convince the investigators they were innocent, only to get caught later through more evidence?
It's such a small thing but the fact that he mentioned that she had it rough growing up makes me so angry. He knew her , knew of things she'd been through because she'd trusted him enough to tell him about it and he still took her life and dared to try to make her look bad to save his own ass .
I agree. Also this comment just made me realise I don't actually know why he killed her? Did they end up saying why? Was he angry at her for something or jealous or.. did you guys pick up on it? Not that there is any excuse or reason for something like this 😔 I'm just curious.
Nah That is simple psychology. If somebody has a rough childhood they are more likely to have an addiction or to be mentally ill That was what he tried to let them believe Idk about somebody with a rough childhood whos parents call the police after they disappear for 2 hours. (Sorry for my english)
@peterthehansmann don't worry your English is good! While that is a possibility I feel the need to politely disagree on that last part..? Abuse often comes from parents but not always, you can be very close to your family and still have experienced some kind of trauma; it can be a domestic incident, a fire, explosion.. sexual abuse, which is much more common, especially with children, than people think and will scar anyone for life, or even just disorders or health issues, Americans have a terrible healthcare, any child growing up with some kind of disability or illness will struggle immensely, dysphoria and dysmorphia, chronical depression, chronic pains... Trauma works in many different ways, I know you're not trying to downplay anyone's experience but it's important to keep in mind :') As for this specific case you're right, we'll never know
@Ron the Ron yea ist actually agree to your statement but in this case he tried to let them believe that he was doing way worse than it actually was (i think)
@Cindilas why do people always say this when a woman gets murdered? you didn’t even speak about what she herself could’ve done, only what some non-existent people missed out on. it’s kind of bad when you think about it.
@demi bk Stop white knighting. Obviously it's sad regardless of the perspective when any young person with potential dies prematurely. I am a man, I think of things in terms of bloodlines and lineage. It's just how men think biologically, so of course it's sad that she didn't get to experience love to that degree and have a family.
@Cindilas lol, white knighting for who? i’m a woman myself. if men actually thought like that, they’d say it about other men that get murdered too - which i have literally never seen, unless they had a wife or child already. fair enough if you do, but i’ve never seen men spoken about like that.
@Ron the Ron a rough childhood doesn't always come from your parents. Sometimes they're the only thing that keeps it live-able. I speak from experience on this front.
It makes me even more sad to know that her childhood and life wasn't great. He took her life away from her before she truly got to experience happiness.
@Iulia Ionela Petcu Yeah, that goes without saying. It doesn't need to be stated the loss of a life is sad for the person who dies. Obviously. But what I was stating that so many people seem to miss is that her death affects not just her, but many people in the future that will no longer have the chance to spend their lives in her company. It's not a reductionist statement as so many here seem to think, but rather an exaltation of the importance of a single human life on now just the individual, but potentially many other lives and bloodlines altered forever.
@Jonathan Blind oooh yeah, a female . Or, you know, maybe this is just one in thousands of comments which all focus on different aspects of this case? Suggesting that I don't care about the murder just because I talk about alleged abuse makes no sense, chill out
@Cindilas it wouldn’t be a problem if it wasn’t said constantly by everybody to women about everything bad that happens to them. Then your defensive statement was “I’m a man, I think in terms of lineages biologically (whatever that means)” Reeing about “MUH MALE BIOLOGY, you don’t understand I NEED to be sexist” after u get called out isn’t a good excuse 🥸 evopsych fail
@sulana Okay dude. Cry more I guess. Already explained in my previous comment, but you people will find a reason to be mad at literally anything, especially if it's a man saying it.
@peterthehansmann To the contrary, if you have a rough childhood it might be because your parents are controlling and abusive. I'd been beat for coming home late from school. But even if her parents are responsible and loving and have the best intentions, it doesn't mean she didn't have a rough childhood. Many things could have caused that, we really don't know for sure. Her parents might not have been the cause, or maybe it was only one parent. All we really know is that it probably wasn't neglect.
I thought that was a bit interesting too, using shit to paint her as bad. It’s not a guarantee, but he’s parents were suspicious of the random texts and called the police for help in under two hours, seems like she might have had a good family.
@Prince JellyFish What L? Cause I expanded the reasons why is a tragedy someone is murdered and some girls want to cry that "we're more than just that!" Well yeah, no shit, but the point was it has effects on everyone around her, not just her herself. But the girl power squad seems to assume I'm looking past her own loss and only making it about her relationship to other people, which I'm not, I'm simply expanding the depths to which a single death can have a ripple effect across time.
When he's crying and having an emotional breakdown at the end, his tears aren't for his victim. He is mourning his future. He knows his life is over. He knows his freedom is gone. He knows the rest of his days will be spent in a cage in the company of violent men. What a horrifying realization, to recognize that your life is essentially over. That's a hard reality, hitting you square in the face. I don't think I could handle it, knowing that my life is over and the rest of my days on this beautiful planet will be spent in the confines of a single room in a single building.
It's a hard fate, but murder means that not only has he taken a young woman's ability to ever experience any of those things again, but he has also taken away a human being from her family - they will never hold her, smile with her, or enjoy life with her again. You're right, he's crying for himself.
I've seen irrational moments from a lot of people. We are all capable of malevolence and turning into a murderer given the situation. Couple bad days and you might turn into him. And with this knowledge now u know u should be careful. He may have had aggression issues though.
This was very elegantly said! I agree 100%. Such a surreal realization and moment! I couldn’t even imagine it, it’s almost like he is dying himself because all those visions of the future we anticipate to experience will forever be unfulfilled. He deserves it tho.
Col. Hans Landa Lee’s case displayed a level of irrationality that is abnormal. Sure he killed savanah, but he also burned and discarded her corpse and strategically planned a way to get away with it. That’s definitely not something we can all be capable of doing.
@Col. Hans Landa Would you like a fresh glass of milk??
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Mister Justice It's a hard feeling, it's gut wrenching ...def not worth ANY crime that lands you in prison or county jail. Yes I've been there in my STINKIN THINKIN 20's and it taught me a big lesson. I did my bit, got out to never return that was 27 yrs ago I'm 52 yrs old to date BUT nothin as serious as this ... Mine was drug dealing PCP
Ernie the Giant Chicken really? what the fuck is 5 years? People waste that amount of time on more trivial things. Or people live in worse hells like abusive relationships. Also imagine prisons in Canada yeah must be one of the easiest to get out alive and reasonably healthy.
No matter how bleak things get the human body can be incredibly optimistic...almost a survival instinct. You're body knows and understands life will go on even if you consciously deny it
When in prison often times they transfer you between states so he might be able to do some traveling just not much sightseeing.. Rest in Peace Ms. Gold
Well put , im a multi tour combat veteran that had the misfortune of being locked up for 991 nights in a max secure prison (level 4 yard) every day felt like 3 the violence didn't bother me as it was part of my life since my earliest memories , it's the sheer boredom constant talk and drama from full grown men . it can absolutely brake your human spirit and sense of life quickly if your not equipped to handle it . that was over 13.5 yrs ago since then I've gone to tech school (master Plummer) married with 2 kids a house and cabin I'm living life as slow as possible now . Be careful in those heated moments and listen to that voice of reason coming from your conscious . ✌
Yup. If he was going to be wracked with guilt and remorse after killing her, he wouldn’t have killed her. He decided her death was an acceptable outcome, but only if he got away with it. Reflecting about how he actually didn’t get away with it has just got to be tough. The Col. Russell Williams interview highlights this realization poignantly. He just didn’t see it coming.
It’s worse than death. There’s drugs and violence and rape and gangs in prison. Righteous vengeance feels good, but academics and religion condemns that shit, it doesn’t work as a deterrent, and the morality of an eye for an eye would leave the world blind. Has to be another way man.
Anyone else notice the point he realises he might be being recorded and starts acting remorseful? Maybe he was but he suddenly went from "f***ing Savanna" to "you were nice to me" or something like that. From the sound of the injuries inflicted it was an act of rage and hate, it would be interesting to see a tox report for both of them. Two lives lost, it's just sad.
@petef15 im glad [most] humans arnt like wild animals who only care about surviving. Imagine a world where we evolved from bears that eat their own offspring to survive
It could have been an accident, you never know. If it wasn't, then certainly someone has accidentally killed someone else somewhere in the world. And the thing about accidents is... you never intend for them to happen. With that being said, I'm curious to know how you would respond if such a circumstance befell you. What if a chef serves someone raw meat by accident and it leads to their death? What if that was you? Would you lay yourself on the alter? Would you? Or would you hope it goes under everybody's radar? The truth is you don't know until you're in the middle of it and have to make a decision. That's why I don't mouth off about what I would or wouldn't do if I haven't personally lived it. Long ramble, I know, but only took a short minute to type.
I think he did have remorse ("Savannah was nice to you...") while it obviously wasn't self-defense, i don't think he wanted to kill her or it at least wasn't premeditated. They probably had an argument about her talking openly about the relationship, and maybe about the drugs, he became angry and wanted to beat her/scare her/shut her up and accidentally killed her, panicked and made a plan on the spot to text the family and hide the body. He might've been on something himself, or has serious anger issues/has abused women before.
A liar, woman-beater and murderer but not a premeditated murderer or a remorseless psychopath. At least that's my take i'm not the detective idk lol
I don't believe that. He was there by himself apologizing to his victim. He was beating himself up over it. He genuinely felt remorse. The true test of a person's character is when they're alone. And he was remorseful by himself. I feel for him, to an extent.
@I'm Jayelee I Wish I Were A Billionare I somehow don't think that was going through his mind. I don't think he had any ulterior motives there, as if he would think footage of him admitting he did it and saying he felt bad would cut him slack in court. Seemed genuine. Doesn't excuse what he's done, but at least there's something deep inside him.
@psiDaylight Agreed. Lot's of people here seem to think psychology is very simple, and every killer is some cold blooded psychopath. A shot in the dark is that maybe he had had rage control issues, went way too far, killed her and panicked. He's clearly grieving (for his own life mostly in this moment), but he is clearly remorseful for what he did to her. Cold blooded killers don't have breakdowns after they confess. They sure as hell don't apologize to their victims either.
When the gravity of the situation settles, I could bet that he'll be thinking about the lives he destroyed, and it'll weigh on him.
I’m not sure, even when it’s more a crime of passion than something planned, that these people ever miss the person or regret the person is gone. I just have a feeling that if you’re capable of those feelings you’re not really capable of crossing the line and also trying to cover up the crime.
gasai yuno Thank you. Apparently we lose empathy for other people when they have done bad things. People fuck up, some (much much much) worse than others. But this isn't the type of guy who I'd want to rot in jail. This is someone who genuinely is remorseful and has a high chance of rehabilitation in my opinion
Mrdestiny17 exactly bc I know I would starve before I let my baby son starve an I know most would do the same but unfortunately there are a few humans out there that wouldn’t careless an only care for themselves sadly
Lee: “Water. Earth. Fire. Air. Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar, master of all four elements, could stop them...”
Butterflies are insects in the macrolepidopteran clade Rhopalocera from the order Lepidoptera, which also includes moths. Adult butterflies have large, often brightly coloured wings, and conspicuous, fluttering flight. The group comprises the large superfamily Papilionoidea, which contains at least one former group, the skippers (formerly the superfamily "Hesperioidea"), and the most recent analyses suggest it also contains the moth-butterflies (formerly the superfamily "Hedyloidea"). Butterfly fossils date to the Paleocene, about 56 million years ago.
@Mr. Random Butterflies have the typical four-stage insect life cycle. Winged adults lay eggs on the food plant on which their larvae, known as caterpillars, will feed. The caterpillars grow, sometimes very rapidly, and when fully developed, pupate in a chrysalis. When metamorphosis is complete, the pupal skin splits, the adult insect climbs out, and after its wings have expanded and dried, it flies off. Some butterflies, especially in the tropics, have several generations in a year, while others have a single generation, and a few in cold locations may take several years to pass through their entire life cycle.
@Simon WoodburyForget but the more pressing question is to what extent are butterflies aware of their own existence? Do they wrestle with existential conundrums? Is their life cycle truly an evolutionary process, or is it actually a statement about change and rebirth? The prodigal infant, as it were, awakening to new revelations... Are butterflies trying to communicate the deeper questions of existence, and what change really means in terms of actuality, or metaphorical concepts? Are butterflies aware of the effects their mass has on the orbit of Jupiter's moon, Europa? I think they are. I believe they have a deep and instrinsic grasp of how they exist both terrestrially and celestially, simultaneously...
I'd be useless as a detective. The guilty perp would be telling me all this stuff and my mind would just start wandering and I'd completely zone out, then they'd finish talking and I'd be like "Yeah? Thats crazy..."
the cops didn't need to pay attention to what he was exactly saying in this case they just needed a confession as well as frame the discussion in such a way to put indirect pressure on the sus and gradually ramp pressure hoping the psychological torture for hours on end gets the best of them, they have a standard algorithm they go through in order to get there
Does every chain restaurant have that one guy in his late 20s going after waitresses who are 19-21, and who is 100% that guy who has shirtless photos of himself wearing a sombrero and holding a bud light? Just seems like there’s a requirement every restaurant ever has, to fill at least one position with that type dude.
Whats wrong with a guy in his 20's dating a early 20's girl? On average males marry younger woman then them, that's been a thing since... ya know... the beginning of time.. I can see if he was in his mid 30's or 40's.
Boston Towny4life No I agree. Not really anything wrong with it in and of itself. More that it’s one piece of the overall combo I described. You get the feeling a lot of the girls work these jobs for a chapter of their lives while working on their education or something. Meanwhile, sombrero guy is just there..
@Stephen Grigg probably because it works and he has a never ending supply of barely legal girls to creep on. Pretty shitty for a girl just trying to earn a living tho :/
Don't hate the player, hate the game. Not sure why you all think its wrong for someone whose 35 to date girls in their 20s. My coworker is 18 and she keeps trying to sleep with me and ive turned her down multiple times because of the stupid shit she says. It all depends on their maturity. Go outside more people.
@Blake agreed. , the main 3 objectives to lusting after barely legal woman is 1. there over 18 2. their mind and body are sound and most importantly 3. if they reject you take it like a man and realize that killing them might impare your promising future.
Great observation. My guess would be this: you need to ask yourself, what kind of people usually become managers/chefs of chain restaurants. It’s usually dudes with no college degrees who have no real big aspirations but live check to check doing tasks a little less than boring (cooking). These dudes are usually 30 years old will chase any girl that gives them the slightest attention, including inexperienced girls ages 17-21
@Stephen Grigg once you move up in the restaurant business you need to really put in the hours. So basically, you have no life outside of the restaurant.
I am a waiter in my mid twenties and have worked for three different restaurants - yes. Every restaurant has that dude to some extent.
But it is because being a good waiter requires charisma, and charisma means getting laid is easier. So if one is working with a bunch of young, beautiful women who are attracted to him, why wouldn't they sleep with them?
I have worked in both high end fancy restaurants and low end dives. Basically every kitchen is filled with ex convicts, drug addicts, douchebags, rapists, you name it. Any asshole can cook and wash dishes.
Blake the weird thing I don’t like is that a 19 yr old just graduated high school probably doesn’t have their own place to stay and that she would’ve been 12 when he was in his 20s still. Not to mention most of these kinds of relationships I’ve witnessed in person the guy knew the girl as a teen and waited till she was legal which is super pedo and usually ends up being an abusive relationship. This girl at my old job was 19 and this 30 year old had a crush on her and everyone was uncomfortable with it it’s just kinda weird bro
@Boston Towny4life so because war has been a thing throughout our history it's just okay? No. Long time ago people can just sleep with young girls but that doesn't mean it's okay now or then! Just because it's widely accepted by the people of your time doesn't mean it's okay. Just saying, Your logic for this is not good sorry. Also literally I remember when I turned 13 and my boobs got bigger, people are so creepy so it's like when you come after me when I just turned 18 it makes me feel like you've been creepy to me for like ever!! So yeah maybe those old people should think about how actually young these little 18 year olds are, how little experience they can have because I didn't even lose my virginity until I was 19 so it's like these people should really think about just how young and inexperienced the kid could be, I know not all teens are like me but some are and it really sucks being sexualized at a young age (esp. when you never even had a real boyfriend/partner before)
Color Me Wonderful what the ever living f__k are you talking about? We’re talking about guys in their late 20’s and early 30’s sleeping with girls in their early 20’s. No one said anything about grown men sleeping with “young girls”. A girl in her 20’s is an adult.
Also wtf are you talking about “war”?! 🤣 WAT?!
Please learn reading comprehension before replying.
Yea I live in this area I literally know a different guy who works at the same restaurant who was asking me if I wanted to go out for drinks when I was like 19 lol
The first restaurant I worked for had two long-term couples. The guy, in the MARRIED couple, would flirt with all the women that worked there. It went beyond words on many occasions. He'd pick girls up and twirl them around, slap their butt, hug them for looong periods of time, and so forth. I found out, shortly after I had left for a better restaurant, that he and his wife were getting a divorce. They just had a child, together.
At one of the restaurants I managed the bar for, the floor manager/gm was married and had a kid. He would CONSTANTLY hire extremely young girls based solely on their looks and then actively make comments about how hot they were to other employees. When he tried it with me, I asked him if his wife would find them just as attractive as he did. Shortly after that, and some conversations with the owner, I became the hiring manager. The first person I hired became one of our best employees, but when I hired him the gm questioned my decision because the employee didn't have our usual 'image.' I told him that character and work ethic are the most attractive aspects of a potential new-hire. Needless to say, he stopped talking with me unless he needed to.
At the restaurant I was at before COVID hit, one of the female servers tried sleeping with me within the first two weeks of my being there. Later, I was told, by her, that she consistently sleeps with countless 'fuck-boys' that she 'kept around.' Mind you, her boyfriend was the one who suggested she conduct her private life like that. They were in the process of getting married. From what I could gather, she'd slept with several people in the months before and after the boyfriend had purchased the ring.
So yes, there's someone like that in every restaurant. Men and women. It's mind-boggling.
the restaurant i used to work at had the same kinda guy working there. man never stopped talking about high school either so i think he was stuck in his high school mind set or something and he tried hitting on me lol. mind, I’m 18 he’s 25.
Pretty much yea...most places I worked back when I first worked those types of jobs had that one couple Then there was the gangster employees The addicts and the church people
@Blake times are changing. Older woman/ young man hookups maybe aren't considered coercion, but they are seen as pathetic. So, I can tell you're "of an age" when fist bumping over low hanging fruit was a thing. Maybe noone has explained this to you, but any relationship where there is a marked inequality in the power dynamic raises a red flag, meaning, proceed slowly, and with caution. If one partner is significantly older (over ~25%), has an income that provides more independence, has a position of authority over the partner, or is in a position to coerce, intimidate or threaten the partner, that's an uneven power dynamic. An 18 year old brain's frontal cortex has not fully matured, and their decisions can be impulsive, naive, and emotional. You know this, because you have the benefit of experience, even if you are only 25. Just being able to purchase alcohol legally can be impressive to an 18 year old. So if you mix a normal, unstable miss or esquire (using drugs off and on to the point where you turn off mates and lose a bunch of weight would fall under the the 'unstable' umbrella at any age) with an unstable older person (bud lights, sombreros, knife fights, and sobbing in a police station, ditto), it won't end well. At the very VERY least, once the powerless person gains understanding, they will be forever icked out (eeewww) by the memory and resort to blaming intoxicants for their regrettable choices, while the once dominant partner becomes a cautionary tale to the other's next generation. Double-ditto, a pathetic scene. It seems to me that the crucial element you are missing in your conception of "consenting adults" is the result of the passage of time.
Lmao I have to add to this thread and say I've been in the restaurant industry for over +5 yrs and yes there's always that one dude. Sometimes they're a really good dude or a douche.
Robert Gardea So it’s called an “affair” when a female teacher sexually assaults a student, but “rape” when a male teacher does the same? Interesting. So much for “gender equality” being a thing.
Blacky Chan Nothing. You’re both legal. And if it’s mutual, there’s nothing wrong with it. But you’ll have the judgement mob after you. The mob who has never done anything questionable in their lives. Therefore it allows them to judge you, because they are perfect and have nothing in their lives that needs fixing.
Blake I don’t think it’s jealousy. I think it’s people who think that their lives are so,perfect that it gives them the right to sit in judgement of others. My motto is, if it’s legal, go for it. Gay, straight, trans, midget, no legs, one eye. Whatever someone is attracted to, go for it. I’m very imperfect, so I have no right to judge someone who is not breaking the law. If everyone in the world was exactly the same, the world would be a very boring and predictable place.
When my wife and I were separated, I was 38 and there was a girl who was 22. I didn’t know. I thought maybe 26 or 27. We worked in the same building, but not together. She would always be making excuses to hang around me. Long story short, I asked her out. We dated for about a year. She liked older men. Turns out that she was sexually assaulted by an older man when she was 12. I think this was somehow her way of coping. But it didn’t end well. Layers of her would slowly become peeled back. Turns out that she was a binge drinker. A serious binge drinker. She was addicted to Percs. And she abused Adderall. Not sure if she was addicted to those though. So the first half of our relationship was great and the second half was extremely rocky. I broke up with her several times, however she was very manipulative. I wonder if young women who go for much older men have a similar experience in their childhood or adolescence.
@Chris Bollow totally correct! i worked in a number of restaurants in my past and every one of them had that "dude" working there. Usually as an assisstant night manager, where all of the "talent" perpetually operated. lol
@blake hebert Same, even back in my last year of uni I was 22 and it felt weird af when 18yr freshman showed interest. They seemed like kids lol.
But agree it’s def hilarious seeing 40yr old guys posting selfie’s on social media and stuff trying to act young it’s so cringe lmao.
Kinda sad those men never were able to be fulfilled with a family of their own (some even have families btw), they just have some weird perversion that controls their life to where nothing else matters.
@C Ford I’m an adult and have ADHD. I can tell you right now that when I first started taking my meds my mind definitely focused. In fact, I found myself to actually take power naps and sleep more soundly at night because my mind being able to focus translated to less racing thoughts when I’m sitting still.
I also had to take a training course recently that required 12 hours of sitting in a chair straight for 3 days straight. On the 2nd day I forgot my meds and it was literal hell. I could not stay still or focus. I literally wanted to scream and was fidgeting nonstop. Everything distracted or annoyed me. I had to exert an exhausting amount of effort. Third day I didn’t forget and it was easy to sit still and focus the entire time even though the 3rd day had objectively more work than the 2nd.
Kindly stop making assumptions etc. if you’re not a fucking doctor. :)
@C Ford yea every single case is the same? a reliance on medication is objectively not a good thing but if they can afford it and is the only way they have found to function you should probably mind ur own business
@thebravelittletoaster14 People say it helps them focus... it helps EVERYBODY focus. Jet pilots take the shit for christ sake. The idea that someone has a disorder for which taking speed every day is the cure is preposterous. I guess maybe I'll take some to "cure" me next time I have to sit for 12 hours and become fidgety and uncomfortable. Y'all are sad.
You're gonna be on dangerous meds for your whole life no matter what. We are talking about a disorder in which anyone can qualify by having 5 of 18 symptoms of which many are completely bogus. And you're right, we aren't chimpanzees but we are pretty close, except I don't know if chimps histrionically inject their own unrelated bullshit into a conversation to make themselves feel important.
@C Ford I'm more willing to listen if you could start providing evidence to any of your words. Otherwise, this conversation ends with you saying what you personally believe and nothing more.
@Twelve Voltage type in to google: ADHD controversy and watch experts argue if you don't believe me. People in the field for decades have been speaking out.
@C Ford Yes, I'm aware of how dull some psychologists are. And I agree that ADHD is diagnosed far too often and that Adderall is prescribed way too much, aswell as to too many. Once again, it's not only prescribed for ADHD. If you have a better solution to cure bipolar, I'd be willing to learn.
EDIT: I also agree that adderall for life is bad for most ADHD people as more than half eventually outgrow symptoms. I think it's use as a medicine is flawed, but I'm just saying that personally, I disagree that it should NEVER be permanently prescribed.
@Twelve Voltage It can be a great tool. I would never compare ADHD to bipolar disorder. Amphetamine might be the safest option for you compared to some of the other shit that might be offered. I'm glad you found something that works.
ADHD is massively over diagnosed in the states. Literally nobody in Europe takes adderral. We also don’t have a massive opiate problem. It’s because your doctors are profit motivated so they will sell you any crap. Any mention of drugs on a YT thread and it’s “well I’ve been on oxy for 8 years because of back pain” or “I can’t concentrate without meth/adderall” These things are so rare in Britain, where doctors have very strict controls and just won’t give it to you unless absolutely necessary. Even if you have surgery even getting codeine is hard, they want to give you Tylenol/acetimine.
@C Ford you clearly don’t understand how ADHD works. our brains are literally different. shape, chemical makeup and all. so yes....it does effect us differently
@Michaela Jenkins I get my information from papers published by experts in the field. The experts disagree... But it's not just me saying it. If folks could be bothered to actually research for themselves, what I'm saying wouldn't seem so outlandish.
@Serega Rublev “remember to keep your comments respectful and follow community guidelines” ... sorry you have trouble with that. You have probably had some pretty bad things happen to you and done some bad things yourself. Hope things turn around for you. ❤️
Y’all some pill poppers. Everyone’s brain thinks differently. You can’t categorize people and give them a pill to solve their problems. Argue with me all you want. I know basic human biology and we weren’t made to be doing medical meth everyday.
@C Ford I have adhd and the first thing I ever did on meds was lie on my bed and relax. before that point I had never relaxed in my life before. you don't know what you're talking about
@C Ford nahhh actually when I was little it didn’t do anything to me but as I got older I grew out of my adhd and took my medicine and was wired so nah they do have the adverse effect
@Twelve Voltage just curious, were you diagnosed bipolar before you were prescribed any SSRIs or other psychoactive pharmaceutical, or were you prescribed medication for depression before your diagnosis of bipolar? Thank you
Eh its the equivalent of having like 2 and a half cups of strong coffee and also haven't eaten in a while. Mfs be geeking out lol 😆 hey some advice from an ex junkie all uppers are the same feeling cocaine meth and coffee it all makes me feel the same. Heroine is a downer it is like zanax or vicodine heroine will have you what we can falling out meaning u r so fucked up you feel so numb and so good u don't give a littoral shit about anything or anyone so numb you can barely stay awake yet you know if you did fall asleep you'd probably not wake up.
@LAVATORR have you ever tried crack or speed all uppers are the exact fucking feeling literally it feels like your just downed 3 cups of coffee lol in the span of 2 seconds the only difference between em is how fast the high comes on and also how you do it whether you smoke it shoot it or snort it they are all uppers or downers and they are all the same
@C Ford ADHD is more than just a focus issue. A sufferer of ADHD has a mind that cannot create self stimulation and much like dreaming that stimulation is incredibly important for your state of mind. Because the brain cannot create stimulation on its own, it must seek it elsewhere. That's why they're saying people who actually need the medicine can sit through a whole a day. There are a multitude of other Neurodegenerative diseases people can get that stem from unmanageable ADHD. Depression and disassociation are just the tip of the ice berg. In other words, you sir are incorrect.
Everyone in the reply section thinks you need to be a doctor with trained medical history/a researcher to know what adderall does to you when you could listerally ask a neurodivergent person who's been on it. I've personally never taken Adderall but you people are so fucking rude and you talk over the voices of people who actually know what they're talking about, not just sitting in their chair using Google and acting like a scientist but by having real life experience that you will never be able to understand. Don't reply to this cause I'm not gonna respond.
So what exactly was the motive for killing this young girl? They were doing it and because he is the restaurant manager/chef and she worked under him, he didn't want people to find out and get fired from his job? That can't be it, was it???
I think it had more to do w his girlfriend and Savannah probably threatening him to tell her they were having sex and threatening to tell her she was pregnant w his baby or something
You know what I’m thinking that entire 90 minutes (& keep in mind that I have both Bipolar Disorder AND Anxiety Disorder Due to Childhood PTSD Caused by Mental, Emotional, & Religious Child Abuse)..? I’m taking a nap or two, while simply thinking, “I’m not answering SHIT, ANYway. Just asking for a lawyer!”
I watched this for the confession. They cut the confession off don't waste time looking at police begin him. I guess they weren't so subtle extracting the confession which is probably why it's cut.
He was rather long-winded for a homicidal criminal. These detectives are terrific! Shades of First 48! They gave him 40 years. That's not nearly enough. Should have been Life without parole.
Seeing all these comments about JCS makes me sad and upset man. To think About all the hours he put in to make these informative videos for us, just so yt can restrict him makes me sick to my stomach. I hope he’s doing well fr.
Female detective; Helps make a murderer confess to his crimes to ensure he is convicted. Half the comment section; "This emotional b** should stay out of the room and also he should have lawyered up to avoid going to prison for the murder he did dang stoopid womens". JFC whose side are these people on exactly?
I literally forgot the 1st question that the detective asked. That's how long his damn response was. These lil grown ass boys need to realize women don't owe you shit & you don't own us
To avoid losing his job. He was a manager and Gold was not. He didn't want his bosses to find out about their relationship. Unbelievably stupid. I know
My name is Lee Rodarte. I'm 31 years old. My house is in the north east section of Florida, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Bonefish Grill family eateries, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I smoke, drink, and do heavy drugs. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone, except a CCTV camera.
He killed her out of impulsive behavior just bc he was angry at her. Nothing planned just did it on the spot. Now he’s upset bc he’s confessed and didn’t fully realise what he did or come to his senses. He’s really stupid.
It’s even more gross that he was 27 and she was 21 and he lied about the drugs because savannah didn’t even have drugs in her system. And her neck break didn’t even kill her so it isn’t known how she died … what a manipulative little man
James Thompson2022-05-06 18:29:37 (edited 2022-05-07 09:54:12 )
The woman interviewer, needs a different career. Stepped on and over everything and though repeating "please, please, I know you're not evil" would do it, poor!
I can’t imagine the poor family when they got those faked text messages from her and realising that someone not only had her phone but was also telling them that they wouldn’t see her again 😭
Jesus. I've watched too many of these. My daughters are Savannah's age. When they text me late at night or make me check on them, I quiz them, or call them by the wrong middle name. They think I'm crazy. Maybe I am, but I will not be fooled by the fake text!
@SpaceMissile Actually I have a subtle and complicated system- call me mommy if you need the law, mama means a little sketchy, etc. I like your way better. Time to make some changes.
@SpaceMissile I do have this not so subtle one when they are with someone they don't know well and things start getting weird. I tell to whip out their phone and take a pic of him, then say "oh my mom has this crazy ap, the pic just goes to a database and gets deleted in a month, but if something happens to me they can dig it up. I have to do it on all my dates- moms amirite?"
"The instant anguish over his decision to confess, combined with the looming prospect of what lays ahead, will have forged a unique emotional distress that very few will ever experience. It's a harrowing sight, and under different circumstances would be extremely difficult to witness. Yet, we are now couched within the context of events that lead up to this moment and this will make it's observation far more tolerable, but by no means easy."
Such an honest and sympathetic thing to say. Love this channel!
One of those rare moments when you really get to look through a window into inner core of a person as their world is crumbling around them. It's horrible circumstances all around but admittedly kind of morbidly fascinating to watch as well.
A lot of people like to pretend they don't feel sympathy for criminals to make themselves feel cooler, but it was easy to feel the amount of regret in this scene. Not so much remorse, though.
True. And, I could feel some of it. Feeling sympathy for someone who does something heinous doesn't mean you believe it's excusable or tolerable. It's just human nature. No way of knowing, but looks to me like he didn't intend to. It wasn't planned, it was a panicked reaction. Which is just that much sadder, for both of them. She trusted him enough to get in the car, because he wasn't a 'bad' guy and her instinct didn't tell her better. He had no intent of doing this (I believe), but kids, don't do drugs. Because no matter why you did something, you still did it, and you'll have to live with that. And because he did something he'll have to live with, Savannah doesn't get to.
@Dorito Right, we all make mistakes but unfortunately this one came with grave and irreversible consequences. In a way I feel this should almost act as a sort of cautionary tale to step back from a situation and to consider the ramification of your actions before you make it. One moment can change yours and others entire lives.
@Dreamleaf exactly. I truly believe Lee just panicked. Unfortunately, he was way bigger, way stronger, and on drugs, therefore, his moment of panic ended someone's life. The best prevention from things like this to happen is not put yourself in the situation in the first place. I feel sorry for him. It doesn't exonerate him, or make it any less tragic, but damn, it really puts it into perspective how close so many of us are into getting into situations we don't want to be in, or to cause. And it should put it into perspective like that. Compassion doesn't mean tolerance.
@VERY Excited Doggo I don’t “feel cool” when I don’t sympathize with a murderer. It’s great if you and JSC are able to but it gives me immense satisfaction to see him despair. He deserves that and more.
@Dorito when you do something so heinous like he did,compassion goes out the door. He's clearly putting on a show here,acting remorseful etc.,because he knows this is being recorded.
Agreed, it's a brilliant channel, but I think this is one rare time where he's misinterpreted Lee's blubbering at the end. No one, I repeat, NO ONE would say all of those, obviously, carefully chosen statements unless they realised they were being recorded by a surveillance camera. Watch it again and honestly ask yourself if you believe that his concern was in any significant way, for what he'd done to Savannah. The tears and sobs are real.......... but only for his own predicament.
@Darren Slater and the fact that it was at a damn restaurant makes it dumber. if he can cook decently & is at least somewhat personable then even if he lost his job there he'd have probably been able to bounce back on his feet at another restaurant. the Bone Fish Grill sure must hire some boneheaded people.
@Darren Slater I don't think it was ever about that job. He might have had some sadistic fantasies he wanted to act on from the beginning when became enraged. The job was an excuse.
Excuse me, sir. It says here that I can't kill my coworkers? That seems to me to be an unfair policy. I refuse to sign this. Thank you for the job offer, but I have another one at the Post Office that seems better.
Ah shit see there it is, page 6 of the employment offer. “Staff members are required to abstain from homicides during work hours or on company property.”
@vIPR on purpose tho, she even fooled you that's how good she is... You need to try different tactics to trigger pity or empathy if you feel like your subject still has moral and compassion.
@Professor Yinyang not to mention that she said she was passionate, you can clearly see what will work with the person in front of you and you adjust to that
@vIPR She's not an amateur. She's controlling the interview. You can see where she kicks the male detective under the table several times and he stops talking every time. It's her gig. They know Rodarte is emotional and would cave to emotion. It's all practiced and planned ahead of time.
@vIPR yes, he did. The JSO had a press conference right after this interrogation. He confessed and told them where to find the body. They found her body that night.
@vIPR Also, interesting that you peg HER for being new at her job. Her partner, the male detective, Ray Reeve had just come to the JSO homicide dept in 2018, the same year as the interrogation. Homicide detectives are actors. They play characters during these interogations.
@vIPR of course leave it to a random guy on the internet to come mansplain about how a professional detective can’t do her job and refusing to actually listen to facts. did you even watch the video? and why are you so obsessed with how she handled it? it’s not that deep
@vIPR it would still be mansplaining since YOU’re the one questioning the professionalism of and actual professional. I’d love to see you try to make the man confess since you’re so great
same, I’ve watched like 9 of their vids. 3 parts of Chris watts but idek if I wanna do it for college as my major. I don’t want to react in a bad way but I obv have time to make my decision as my major because I’m gonna be a sophomore this fall.
@Bethel Bruk it takes 8 to 10 years an undergraduate and a masters degree to be one 😭😭😭 and it only pays 29-100K a year so if you're up for all that go for it!
@Orion Mckenzie só there are no pros? You forgot to mention your dealing with profuse amounts of sorrow and distress and murder so it’s def not worth it for 100k lmao
@i Relevant it's not the best job but if psychoanalysis is something you're passionate about then it's a good job espicially if criminology interests you.. I could never I am far too sensitive for that job I would break down
Second time I'm watching this since it was released. Probably watched the story of Jeff like 5 times since dit aired. Criminal psychology is fascinating.
The female interrogator gently kicks the male interrogator when she wants him to stop talking. 28:13 “Is that what happened? Did she overdose?” (*she kicks, he suddenly stops talking and resets his posture*)
29:50 “Where did you go with her?” (*kicked, suddenly stops talking and resets posture.*)
30:47 “not saying you intentionally did anything, tell us where you went.” (*kicked twice. He trails off and resets posture*)
I’m sure there were more instances of her nudging I didn’t catch. It happens so often and the males reaction is so consistent it must be a previously agreed upon method of communication between them. They make a good team.
@DxH17 - No they don't make a heck of a team, I'm glad the correct evidence seemed to be collected on this occasion but the police are the biggest criminals that we have.
They are known to bully and trick people into saying things they don't mean and they always cover it up in such a disgusting way by lying and editing/deleting evidence that shows their wrongdoing.
Why in the f*ck did they edit out a huge part of this? It's because it involved the police officials acting in a disgusting and unlawful manner so they just cover it up like it didn't happen and that is tremendously dangerous for any society.
They need to answer MORE than any regular citizen and their days of unprofessional and unlawful behaviour have to be punished extremely severely.
@ron sae Such a good question. What wasn't released? Why? I think maybe one of them said something about the victim that would shame or enrage the family if it was made public.
@ron sae "Why in the f*ck did they edit out a huge part of this? It's because it involved the police officials acting in a disgusting and unlawful manner so they just cover it up like it didn't happen and that is tremendously dangerous for any society. "
Probably so the family didn't have to see this guys confessing in detail how her murdered and burned their daughter's body....
@ron sae Good point, the female was far too emotional way too early on, i bet she pretended to cry or breakdown or even get somewhat physical with Rodarte.
Also...the OP (IMO) might have noticed this the same reason I did, because JCS says “get his foot in the door” right on the pause before her first kick lol SO INTERESTING and funny
@Dan Smart - If you think the police base their cases around making the family members of the victims feel as comfortable as possible then there's no hope for you. They don't do what they do to help the family members and there's absolutely no reason in the world to think that they do.
@Cyrene - This is a great example of 'the ends justifying the means', so them tricking and bullying someone in order to get to the truth was a great thing is this particular instance as it led to the right thing. Justice.
With that being said, this is just one of countless examples of police/state officials 'bending the rules' to get what they want and that is dangerous as f*ck.
If ANYONE else in our society manipulated and distorted evidence in the way that they did in this video, and then refused to release the evidence in it's entirety they would be ripped to f*cking pieces. Nobody lies and covers something up unless there's something to hide, so how and why can these animals keep getting away with this disgusting behaviour? It's not right.
@ron sae I understand. They have used the same tactics to convict many, many innocent people. Especially in death penalty states. Convincing an innocent person that you have evidence that will make a jury convict you, when they don't, and forcing them to plead out, is not justice. It happens all the time. And not only is an innocent person in prison, but a murderer is walking free. It's not allowed in other countries and they get convictions. I don't really like it either.
ron sae you are a fool. These techniques are meant to catch people that actually commit a crime. Psychology based methods IMO are very humane on the fact that they require you to confess. Not trying to say “if you’re innocent you’ve got nothing to fear” but trust me. This isn’t unethical or in humane. They’re trying to catch a murderer. This isn’t a game
@zerolelouch22 It usually happens with people of subnormal intelligence (or sometimes young kids) who are easily manipulated and intimidated by those in power. Look at Brendan Dassey. These cops KNOW this guy did it but a lot of times the cops zero in on one person because they are convinced that they know what happened. They get tunnel vision and relentlessly badger an innocent person into confessing. It's what happened to the West Memphis Five too.
@ron sae No, the tactics here were fine, as from the begining he lied they knew. After that getting the confession with any means necessary is what was needed.
I couldn’t stand the female’s way of “interrogating” - the begging and pleading was too much. It must have had an effect, though, because once she lighted up and went soft, he started caving.
She also immediately becomes tremulous and vocally upset; which likely is because they know it upsets him as he stated earlier his argument was obvious he was upset with victim being upset (f you etc). She emotes feminine to upset and throw him off more. Also; highly unlikely female detective is able to be in such a position being actually that upset.
I believe that in the case the male was a rookie detective and the female was a senior. So she was silently telling him that those are leading questions and are not the way to go. Now I'm not certain of this but I do remember reading that when I watched this whole interrogation a few months back.
*In narrators voice: what KingofHearts didn't realize was that the female detective had been sleeping with her partner despite the male detective being married. This would all come to an end when the wife discoveres the text messages. What happened next would show even cops weren't above murder. Yeah, I'm bored
T Friesen2020-02-29 21:59:57 (edited 2020-02-29 22:04:44 )
I just hated how ham fisted she got with her approach at one point literally screaming at him to confess, it's like she got frustrated and didn't want to wait for it to naturally happen. Just realized she began crying before she was even the one talking. Not very professional.
multirevelator She was using a well-known interrogative tactic. It was entirely intentional and planned. She wasn’t being “far too emotional” - she was doing her job.
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I Litardo2020-03-14 19:09:30 (edited 2020-03-14 19:10:11 )
I guess he's so busy keeping the guy talking that he doesn't quite realize that he's slightly off track or missing something or jumps too far? Or, she's thought of a good follow-up comment at that point?
Troy C i could get it out of him myself no partner needed just manipulation then dropping the evidence bomb it’s not hard this guy is weak minded and would break eventually just a matter of technique and time..
Really good catch. The first one I thought maybe it was unintentional but by the 30:47 part where she misses his leg and does it again and he trails off, totally a signal.
Good eye. You're exactly right that it was their agreed upon cue for when she would use specific techniques. It's also likely that part of the reason why they selected her for this particular interrogation was because she's an attractive woman, so she's better able to get his guard down.
I wonder how they would have discussed that—- obviously, allowing him to lead, but would she say” hey, when I nudge you with my foot, let him talk and stop asking Qs?” That’s so fascinating
When i was watching this is kept thinking to myself "why didn't she just tap him with her foot so he would stop interruption her" turns out i was so busy observing the rest of their body language that i failed to see them lol.
@ron sae they're not police, they're homicide detectives. they're professional interrogators. they don't arrest anyone who's not a suspect of homicide. i'm no fan of the police but there's a huge difference between regular police officers and detectives
They cut out the actual confession, description of her murder, and details about the disposal of her body. His appeals aren't finished yet so they still have to protect evidence, and also out of respect to the victims family who may have requested that those details be sealed.
This reminds me of the interview with the McCanns, where the wife controlled the husband, being the case that she was responsible for Maddie's death. Of course this is different.
She's overly emotional. The male interrogator was sucking info out of the dude. Getting him to lie and make mistakes. The female interrogator is just confronting him and not making any headway.
7 26 20 Hey@The Coffee Nut, Good story even if your bored. I was reading through the comments & your's was the best; funny too! Stay safe, keep calm, & be well. v P.S.: tragic that the young lady died-for nothing.
ron sae i support defunding the police and blm but this is not the place my guy. Dont assume without evidence. Innocent till proven guilty. They make an amazing team given they were able to get this man to confess to a murder he committed so regardless of if they are good or bad cops, they put someone away in this video who deserved to be put away and thats justice.
They clearly have this system down ....I guess she thinks he will respond to her “ female” side, her passion for the victim and the. Her soft gentle tone....as many male criminals do - he responded to the woman in the room,
multirevelator Pretending to cry or breakdown isn’t illegal lmao. Based on how the case ended, I’m assuming they didn’t want anyone have to endure hearing his own twisted personal wording of the murder and ‘disposal’
ron sae How do you feel about black hat hackers? While I do agree that the misconduct you describe should never be allowed, I don’t agree that it occurred here. You implied that cops wouldn’t cut out the descriptions of the murder because they don’t care about families of murders. I am sorry, but that sounds incredibly unrelated to a court hearing/footage release. Public censorship does occur, whether by the department, the court, perhaps reuploader of video, or even this youtube channel. You also say cops when these aren’t your normal LEO but instead interrogators, thats as though saying people who join the military just want to kill, even though there are things like the national guard where a lot of people spend their time helping with natural disasters. To put it short, the reason I so strongly disagree with you is because of your strong assumptions, and to assume is to make an ass out of u and me; more specifically, an ass out of cops and a major ass out of yourself.
People here are saying this was teamwork, but I didn't see any teamwork. They had completely different approaches. He was trying to control the suspect while she was just straightforward, and it seemed like she kicked him so that she can have the control of the interrogation. The male investigator gave up after a while and just followed her lead.
Nice catch, though I didn't notice this until you pointed it out.
@ron sae hey i dislike cops as much as the next everyone but this doesnt seem like an example of Bad Detectives Being Evil, theyre literally just trying to get an obvious murderer behind bars, this is more of an example of well applied tactics. Chill out brah surfer hand gesture
@ron sae There is a lot of police corruption, but in this particular case I saw a job well done. The suspect didn't look injured in the post cut scene. My first guess is that they didn't include the confession because he said something explicit/graphic. Or maybe it has something to do with his awaiting trial.
KingofHearts, great catch, but I only watched it once and focused more on the killer's mannerisms and responses. These two investigators are good. One quibble though, she didn't kick him each time it was more a gentle tap with her foot and one time she missed so she reached out and left a little more. Obviously they have various cues meant to be undetectable by the interrogation subject so they can smoothly tag-team the suspect and thereby smoothly ratchet up the pressure to get the confession. I really like the OP's analysis of these videos, very well done.
@cranberry noodle Internet guys can never resist calling a woman shrill or annoying or "like a bat"(???) as in another comment thread on this video. The misogyny in this(and all) comment sections is disgusting.
I thought she was marvelous and I think the emotion behind her plea was real. You can be emotional and only let it out at certain times, people. JEEZ.
@ron sae You make a valid point, as the police NEED to pin the crime on SOMEBODY, ANYBODY the prosecution can get a conviction from. If the pieces fall in place for an innocent person, they will force the suspect into ANYTHING they say AGAINST them in a court of law. This is why SPECIALLY if you ARE innocent of a crime, you should SHUT UP and just wait for an attorney. NEVER give info to the police as it can align with their witnesses or evidence for the narrative on conviction they have. There is a good video on this from Regent University School of Law on YouTube title "Don't Talk to the Police". Watch it. And while they have a "good" cop give you some false hope of the justice system as he claims to do just the right things. PLENTY cops that don't.
@ron sae It makes sense in this case that they pushed the suspect as they did have him lie to begin with. But I can agree on many situations that people are wrongfully convicted. Its nice that just a few of these cases go to retail and sometimes evidence like DNA exonerates them from wrong doing. But that is even more rare.
@Cyrene Each incarseration is equal to $60,000 of funding for the time they are sentenced yet they often do half time in a number of states. It is also FINACIALLY motivated as the prosecution wants a conviction regardless of right or wrong, and the police job is to create that from ANYTHING they can get their hands on, right or wrong.
ron sae is it not necessary to catch a criminal who can potentially kill another person who’s roaming free? Do you wanna feel safe in your surroundings or let criminals like him be on your neighborhood?
@The Creature from the Seventh Chamber Glad I'm not the only one that thought that. I found her whiney begging quite annoying, I can't believe that softens up many male criminals.
she wears the pants and bought him the pants he has on. its his first interrogation. he is friends with her and she bought the suit the day before so he looked better than the cheap suit he got off ebay.
Nice observations, i was only listening to this while i worked, nice spots! Such tragedy, impressive they solved this so quickly. The end there would aerve as a good video to show young men what happens when they don't temper their anger, whether drug addicts or not. So sad.
My work husband and I have the same set up for meetings and presentations! It works really well. WFH this year and into spring, we now IM each other on Zoom calls and it's very effective ... but we both miss me kicking him under the table :)
That's really cool haha, I noticed the second one. I wonder if its to keep him on track to a previous plan, I can't imagine it's if he's doing something wrong I love how she stays silent and comes in with the whammy of the video evidence hahaha
It's funny since his nonsense alibi of having her text she's running off with a guy seems silly but it's worked in several cases, like that mom who killed the husband and then the daughter disappeared and she took her kid, she said oh she ran off to California And got away with it This guy is just a scumbag
Idk why she delivers it in such an emotional and distressed way, it's less intimidating than being forceful and direct and appealing to his empathy is a weird angle
It's funny the how and why usually works well, the wife killer they gave him the out of blaming the wife for the killing to parley it into him admitting he did it
I like the people in these comments pretending like they know anything about all of this. I personally agree that the kicking was a kinda neat way of communicating between the two, it doesn't mean that the detectives themselves are good people or not. Who even gives a shit, when the person they're interrogating ended up being proven guilty.
It is interesting because I was also listening to this without watching and when I sensed she had verbal queues that he needs to back off and let her lead are around these points she is gentley nudging him
She felt that she had a better read on the guy and I think he tended to agree and followed her lead.. They do make a good team sure..in this context..we dont have to over blow it and say theyre the greate4st people ever..it just is what it is..They did a decent job in this context to catch a murderer..
I think she sensed they could go a little harder when he backed off a little
@Steve But who got a real confession with her questions? Looking like a school girl has nothing to do with anything. If anything, she got the criminal to get his guard down with the appeal to emotion and simply by coming across as less threatening. If they don't think you're a threat, they just might fess up as though they don't think you're a threat. Case closed.
The kicks seem to be more of a communication that “hey this is my time to speak without interjection” as most women experience a hard time in group communication due to the males assertive nature and booming voice which causes most women to feel oppressed and upset that their voice could not be heard. My guess is that’s a rule that she made clear to her coworkers. So this may not be an isolated incident or form of communication between the two of them, but a common tactic that she uses in her work flow and the male coworkers know this. You may also replace male with assertive coworker in the case that it is not female vs male, but assertive vs reserved personality.
@Steve she said the victim was her daughter's age. So she should at least be in her 40s, not very old but old enough to have gained that much experience.
@bud ani Wait why are you dismissive of the person critizising the police when there's plenty of footage on this channel where police use manipulation tactics to imprison innocent people?
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A R2020-10-21 04:50:35 (edited 2020-10-21 05:39:51 )
@ron sae do you hear how you sound? Punish them severely MORE than any criminal etc? It sounds extremely scary like you've joined some kind of religious extremist group or something, yes there are bad/criminal cops & bad policing/training/mistakes & policies/ procedures to be reformed, but the most dangerous thing is radical anything, taking anything to such an extreme is dangerous including both police who think they can get away with everything & do anything to cover up along with people who believe ALL cops are bad & need to be severely punished & all of that craziness. There are good cops and bad cops and changes needed in policing all around, but you make an assumption with ZERO evidence or openmindedness or willingness it sounds to see things honestly without the lens of bias. Like first of all the tactics that your are talking about are not unlawful unethical whatever you say, they are following "tried &true" psychological tactics that have been practiced humanely for a long time- yes there are false confessions which is tragic & theres always situations that csnt be avoided in any system but that's why we have SO man protections and rights in place- rights to be silent, to have a lawyer, to have so many detailed prescriptions that police and court satems must follow precisley in order for a fair trial to be determided by the judge, theres no double jeapory, so many things that we are LUCKY to have here in other countries they literary can lock you up indefinitely with no cause or lawyer you can be tried over and over again, like we have a good but inperfect sysyem which we continuously try to imporve and improve. False confessions are GAR from common, there are examples for certain but its far from a refualr or common occurrence and there is actually quite a few protections in place regarding how interviews are conducted/how they present the facts or photo lineups all of that/they ARE recorded & your comment about the footage when it clearly states the district attorney has chosen not to release it yet? This is not some like cut out piece of footage that is clearly altered footage or something! OMG were licky ANY of this is released Pre-trial!!!! They literaly just havent relsead his actual confession bc its still critical for a fair trial . Its for HIS protection actually(well anyone in this situation). Its astonishing that youre saying that clearly the police did something wrong here. Have you ever studied the process of confession? They had gotten him to a point where he KNOWS he isnt getting away with this, he lied to many times and was caught, they conducted this entirely professionally and in fact its clear that he was going to confess before it cuts out where they havent relsased yet, there is no need for any forcing or unlawful unethical anything, and absolutely NO valid reason to suggest or evidebce to support some crazy "alll police are bad show me thier crime" conspiracy with no basid in reality . Some situations do call for investigations into the law enforcement etc but this is literally a case that hasht gone to trial and your lucky we have ANY FOOTAGE AT ALL before the trial which is NOT STANDARD , You areseriously sounding like an extremist and its really scary
@ron sae i would assume the part that got edited out was very graphic and the investigator didn’t want people to hear him describe in detail the murder and disposal of her body.
Its sad that I find this awesome, but the fact that he was clearly deferring to her, that respect for a woman in her position is admirable. Its easy to feel like "eh I'm going to do this because I think its correct, idc what she thinks"...but he clearly respected her talent knowledge and intelligence (and yes knowledge is different than intelligence).
She could be his superior, or maybe the guy has sum kind of feet fetish haha XD. By the way, i'm not sure if this looks like it to you guys, but it looks like she doesn't have her shoe on or something.
Are you sure she's actually kicking him?? TBH it looks like she is just moving her legs because they are tired or someshit and it stops about 5 inches or so from his leg. Just sayin man, I think it's wrong.
@Jéan Leon thanks for this explanation - I couldn’t believe her being that emotional was professional or effective, I thought it was making him clam up more. But I guess they play on contrast: him saying more = her backing off and softening.
I appreciate the time stamps thank you! I was js what's your profession? social worker, private investigator. It's so cool when ppl notice little things like this.
@ron sae maybe because they haven't gone to trial and need to hold onto it before jury selection, or maybe out of respect for her family, or maybe by gag order from judge...there are so many more realistic reasons why we don't see that footage, but you want to get political on a psychology video. SMDH
I wonder what the reason she kicked were, like he must have been doing something "wrong" for her to do it, no shade to the male investigator obviously, it was probably something like he was applying to much pressure or was talking a little off course or something rather than throwing the case.
You're right that police manipulate the truth to get promotion ect. without thinking if the person is actually innocent or not but in this instance you're just wrong and weirdly passionate, the police in this video are doing it the right way, and it's common not to release graphic details of murders, it would be disrespectful otherwise and could influence a jury, even places like Sweden which are known for their moral police practices never release graphic acts done to a victim it's just disrespectful
@ron sae they are the ones who figured out who did this to her, they aren’t bullying they are interrogating to get information to get justice. These disgusting people deserves to be “bullied”
I let that sit in my recommend for a couple days and literally just watched it shoot up 2 or 3 million views every 8 hours and then I finally watched it and now I'm binging too. 😅
Yes!!! Exactly that . The question is though how did that happen ? How did this one video get recommended to all of us ? And We are all now so intrigued . Why didn’t we all know of these videos and this channel before
Precisely lol hopefully this gets him more engagement because his videos are amazing. So interesting and informative. You can tell he does a great deal of research.
@ChefKenBurnEm I mean you’re right...these videos are a pretty good deterrent for murder. I don’t want to have to get my story straight and then try to stick to the lie and then get caught in it and then realize I’m going to be getting the shaft in prison.
I really enjoy his videos. I watched the Casey Anthony one last night cuz it was recommended. I might had already seen it but I couldn’t recall and it didn’t reflect as already watched; but I wasn’t disappointed.
I watched my first one like a year ago before the Chris watts Netflix thing came out and haven’t thought of the channel until that video popped on my recommended
I know some people were annoyed by the female investigator, but I think her approach was able to work well because of the male investigators initial approach. Especially because of how the male responded to her accusations. Almost a good cop bad cop, but different because of her “heightened personal emotion.” She might not even have a daughter but you believe her when she says she does. They were a good team.
And that “f-ing Savannah” he was still blaming her for him being in this position. It’s not that hard to not murder people, bro. All over a job at a restaurant. Weird ass.
@Alex Rosemary i mean i can see that but she simply said she never got out the car then straight begged him to confess putting the male detective almost back at square one. She wouldve been better staying silent or just leaving the room. Ive seen criminals walk free because the lawyer picked the interrogation apart and blamed the confession on the pressure they put on him therefore not making it a real one.
@Steve Lewandowski meh I don’t really see anything she did as coercive. They had video evidence Savannah never got out of the car. They planned on the female investigator being the one to disclose that information. Then her tactic of making it personal and being emotional, while the male played the “I understand you” role and keeping it cool, ultimately got him to confess. Could have been a gamble if not for the overwhelming evidence. Wouldn’t have worked without the male. Just my opinion.
@Alex Rosemary idk it could have worked. Im not an expert at psychology so im not sure but i just know if that was me in the chair i wouldve just told her to stfu because it aint workin on me. The male couldve just as easily revealed the same evidence and it wouldve done the same but begging him to confess, saying over an over "where is she, what did you do with her" like a pitiful version of batman isnt going to do the trick. As i said ive seen many criminals walk free because the confession wasnt real considering the pressure to do so
Well said, but if I may add something: Different suspects require different approaches. This approach here will certainly not work for everybody, but it worked with Lee Rodarte.
At the end of the day, its the result that matters, everything else is trivial.
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Alex Rosemary2021-10-13 01:34:18 (edited 2021-10-13 01:35:10 )
@YouCensored I agree whole heartedly. Straight up psychopaths and sociopaths would not be affected by her at all.They definitely require different approaches and tactics. In this particular case, it worked, and what I mostly wanted to convey, is how obviously planned this was by the investigators. They knew he wasn’t some calculated killer. He acted on impulse and got in way over his head. He’s still a horrible person, but not someone completely devoid of emotion. There’s a lot of planning that goes into most interrogations, and I wanted to acknowledge how well these two individuals worked together to get a confession from this unique perpetrator.
@magnum_cx i never said i had one and they are lucky it did. If you actually read what i said then you wouldve seen me state clearly "ive seen criminals walk free because their lawyer picked apart the interrogation and said it wasnt a real confession because of the pressure placed on him." Im glad it worked at the end of the day but begging for a confession will not work on about 90 percent of people facing life😂 and considering thats all she said when she was there, she might as well went out to eat. So im confused what problem youre seeing. All i said was she didnt help at all🤣
@I Tell You For Free I’m gonna have to raise my hand here. You are right, they did make a good team, and I’m glad they got the confession.
With that said, she was laying it on T H I C K. So much so, that I would amazed if it took longer than 10-15 seconds for Lee to see through that shit. It reminded me of really bad porn acting. (Or so I’ve been told… By a friend…)
I would have to imagine that she acted that way on purpose. Lord knows, I would’ve confessed just to get her to shut the hell up.
Bro her fake acting didnt effect this guy. The male did a waaaay better job it being empathetic and hard when needed. The lady was delaying the interview.
@Young DURG nope they are intentionally that long and to wear you down and pick apart your answers and notice how he told them about the girlfriend drugs and if a man alone he would have been guarded bc he views men as a threat kind of like his prison view but with a women he let his guard down and especially with her saying the evidence against him he was busy thinking of excuses and couldn't go down the self defense road
these people are both experienced investigators, who strategized an interrogation and successfully got a confession. and some guys here who have only watched youtube videos think they know any better, the internet is such a joke sometimes
@Steve Lewandowski Looks like you have a problem specifically with her. This approach does wonders and you probably have no idea what you would have done in his place because there's adrenaline and other hormones working in his organism throughout the whole interrogation. But there's a certain group of people (primarily men) who are like this: 'he would've done this better', 'she could've just leave' and it has nothing to do with a female detective being competent or not
@Steve Lewandowski It did the trick though. Also there is no way of knowing how you would react in a similar situation. Now you can let us know where you saw all these criminals walk free because of this very specific type of interrogation
@Julia Saul I'm the same too, and judging by comments most others, and i don't think it's the best one. Maybe we're victims of psychology xD I've watched around 8 in 3 days and i work 12 hour shifts lol
@ATom Grav you are in a rabbit hole when you discover non-mainstream political content, conspiracies, questioning authority etc. Rabbit hole is not when you watch funny youtube videos for a couple of hours
He's painting Savanah out to be some kind of vengeful drug addict and trying to defile her character posthumously. Savannah's mom has stage 4 colon cancer. Her mom said she was her "best caretaker" and put off college plans so she could stay home and help. He's a disgusting, selfish person.
EDIT, I just wanted to clarify: I don't even look negatively on substance abuse because I recognize it as an illness & not a negative quality in the person. I just read an article about the case and her parents were really struggling and it broke my heart so I wanted to share it. She didn't deserve that no matter what.
@Adam Austin prisons are big business in US, mostly privately owned. Lots of social engineering and brainwashing certain demographics of people takes place for years to fill these prisons for profit.
@ari you're 100% right! I don't even look negatively on substance abuse because I recognize it as an illness & not a negative quality in the person. I just read an article about the case and her parents were really struggling and it broke my heart so I wanted to share it. She didn't deserve that no matter what.
@Adam Austin I think it's time to have a long overdue discussion about the Death Penalty. Glad you said it btw cause the more we talk about it the more we can talk about it. This shit has been going on for too long. 8 years in prison does not suddenly ressurect a murdered human being from the dead. It is an unforgivable (unreversable) act. The punishment should fit the crime.
Subscribe to my channel if you want me to be a figurehead to talk about this sortof stuff cause it's pissing me off too. I'm not even ''right wing'' so who is even saying no death penalty is a good idea?
Just saying from personal experience: someone doing something nice for a family member or even a friend does not mean overall they are a good person, some of the worst fucking people I've ever had the displeasure of knowing have been incredibly kind at one point or another.
Not saying she wasnt actually a good person, just pointing out things arent always as they seem and you would be surprised who can do what.
well substance abuser here; substance abuse doesn't make you kill people. i recently got off the weed, off the alcohol and i was never really into the harder drugs despite having tried them. while alcohol did give me artificial balls to the point where i would initiate a fight every now and then, none of any of the aforementioned drugs ever drove me to commit murder - particularly not a beautiful, innocent and helpful girl who i was dating.
the idea that the drugs made him do it is a cheap excuse, and one that should never be accepted in the courts of law. the only drug on this planet who can drive a person to potentially commit murder is heroin - anything below that should never be used as an excuse for murder, and even this one should be taken with a grain of salt, because there is always another way out of whatever problem you are having.
Spookie Babe Accusing someone of being a junkie is a negative and horrible thing to do and as someone who lived with one for 6 years I cannot say it’s a disease what I can say it slowly kills not only the addict but everyone involved or related to that person. A sick person undertakes everything to get better a junkie does nothing of the sort. Not until they are literally out of all other options and even then they’ll throw their loved ones for the wolves..You have nothing to be ashamed of by saying that calling her a junkie is a disgrace and a defilement of her person because it is exactly that.
A lot of murderers do this to make them not look so bad for killing them. Chris Watts' dumb ass tried to make it seem like his wife killed their kids so people didn't know he was evil enough to kill them for no reason because he was dumb enough to take the bait when the interrogators fed it to him.
This may seem like a weird thing to say - but it’s interesting to see someone actually react to confessing to a murder. So many on this channel just sit there calmly or have some kind of fake act. This guy seemed liked he was truly horrified by what he did. Not saying I have sympathy for him, but I was like ok finally someone who’s like “wow I’m screwed” & actually cries.
It doesn't make it less horrible, but this was clearly an impulsive act rather than one that was planned. I imagine the emotional dynamics of grief/guilt/regret are totally different
@Neverending Bucket List He only regrets talking too much, didn't seem to regret it at all before, had no problem lying and acting like everything was cool.
@Neverending Bucket List right, like obviously burning her body & disposing of her remains is like the part where I’m like ok man you had a chance to at least try to do the right thing after the fact, but seeing someone actually break down was like finally seeing some humanity in one of these vids. So many people are so calculated & scary.
@Rachel Clo Either that, or he might've had an inkling that the interrogation was being taped and wanted to express remorse publicly in order to potentially get a lesser sentence.
Don't be fooled, he's crying because he realized he's going to jail, he's crying because he realized he fucked up his entire life and there's no going back to it now. He's not crying for Savannah, the fact he killed her brutally, the fact she's gone, or how much pain her family and loved ones are going through now (or how much pain she went through when he killed her, for that matter). He's sorry for himself and his life, because he's never going to have the life he wanted. It may look like he has empathy but I'm not falling for it for a second. I'm glad he's in prison.
I think he regrets what he did and the fact he confessed lol. I mean he literally said “I’m so sorry savannah I’m so sorry” “this isn’t supposed to be you Lee” sounds like remorse to me. I’m not siding with him or trying to defend him but I mean at least he cries about it and feels bad about everything. There’s a lot of people who murder someone and laugh at the victims families or show absolutely no remorse.
He said both "I'm sorry Savanah" and "Fucking Savanah". It will come as a shock to many of you that human minds are not binary. You can feel more than one feeling. This is a contrast to what ever species youtube commentators are who only see black and white.
He is only horrified about having been caught and going to jail. Notice how ice cold he his when making up his little stories. No sign of remorse/bad conscience (by showing some nerviousness etc.) when he thinks he's got away with murder. It is obvious that he only regrets murdering the girl because he got caught - not because he feels regret about terminating another human being's life.
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Jonathan Young2021-07-23 20:06:53 (edited 2021-07-23 20:11:20 )
@Respect Dat1 why? He could have impulsively killed her and after having realised what he did, decided to burn and dispose of the evidence becuase he didnt want to go to jail.
If in the event it was indeed impulsive, there are only 2 reactions; cover it up or confess immediately.
I believe his self-wallowing after he confessed was a calculated attend to humanise and garner sympathy, im just saying disposing of evidence after the fact doesnt automatically mean an act wasnt impulsive.
@Hartwin Yeah but he's in a police station in an interrogation room, he obviously knows there are cameras there and/or that he's being watched. Also he was calculating enough to burn her body and dispose of her in the lake
I thought the same. I think that he was truly sorry for what he did, but mostly only for himself. He’s sorry that he threw his own life and freedom away and that is 95% of what he’s feeling. Only a small tiny fraction of his character feels authentic remorse and guilt for taking her life….
@dehanju I think he does regret though, I also believe it's somewhat natural to act the way he did, like I wouldn't want to confess either and make up some bs story
I feel like my phrasing doesn't make sense but yknow
Are you serious? Just like everybody else who cried after lying and denying about comitting murder and getting rid of the corpse, he was just being sorry for himself. How can you get that twisted with remorse?
I actually felt empathy for him in that last clip.. I imagined myself in his place, it would be a total nightmare to know you will be going to jail for the rest of your life. But then again, it's easy to forget what he did to be in that situation.
@Rachel Clo I agree with you that he should have done the right thing at that point. But I believe people go into self preservation mode and try to save themselves. I feel like they think, "this person is already gone, and confessing would only hurt me at this point".
I did not heard a confession or some clue of one. Anyone would react like that knowing that they are known as killers without an alibi. Why they did not release the entire video with him confessing how he did it?
No not crying because he felt bad for what he did to the beautiful young girl. He is crying because he knows he is spending the rest of his life in prison.
@Vee very much with you. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have no sympathy for him. He obviously had none for her. Just like a child, he's crying because he got caught and will probably go to jail. Maybe I should be more empathetic, but this guys little break down did not move me at all.
@bejeweled dehanju and bejeweled I think you're both right. I think he realised he's fucked, and was taking it out on himself saying 'you're so stupid' etc, probably thinking he should have kept his mouth shut, and feeling bad about being caught and realising the detectives have got what they need. He must of known he was being recorded as don't they have to sign something accepting that they're being filmed while being questioned? I think they record every interrogation these days for evidence. So therefore he might have been acting like that while he was on his own, to try the act of remorse. I'm no expert, it's just my opinion.
If I learned anything from watching this channel, he was not horrified about what he did. He was a complete wreck because he was caught dead in his tracks. If he would have never been caught I’m sure he would still be picking his scabs at bone fish
Imagine going to your maker with innocent blood on your hands. I'm convinced that all evil, mean, shitty people pay dearly for their deeds in the next phase of existence. BUT... Was it their fault? Were they born evil? Did something happen to them? Who did it? Maybe our life on this planet isn't that important, or at least we shouldn't take it too seriously. That's how I stay sane.
@Finished!!!!!! yes it was his fault. He choked her and snapped her neck and refused to immediately call rescue to see if they could even attempt to save her. Instead, he took her body home, burned it, and disposed of it in a body of water. I’m not sure where you got “innocent” from.
that's not him being horrified at what he did. That's him realizing he got caught, and he is reacting as someone who is used to being privileged to treat women like disposable objects all his life but is no longer allowed to.
Don't mistake regret for remorse. He regrets getting caught. If he had remorse about the murder, he would not have burned her body and lied about it. I hope he keeps crying like that for the rest of his miserable life. He doesn't deserve to rest ever again.
@Joseph Brother bear Would’ve loved to have seen that remorse when he was burning her body. I did feel a bit of pity seeing him realize his situation but remember nobody put him there besides his own actions.
He's crying because he knows he's gonna get that ass tapped! The only remorse he has is for selfish reasons otherwise he would have confessed up front that it was an accident.
@skylar mccready well your opinion is quite the common response to anyone showing emotions after interrogation. I actually do think he was genuinely showing remorse in the end. This was definitely not a planned murder of any sort. So it makes it a bit different. Don't get me wrong, he is still a pos for what he did.
No I feel you!!! This was a good one too! He was remorseful. Did you see the lady that killed her two daughters and just kept saying I won’t answer any questions. She was cold and heartless. First person that seems human.
Some people only float on the surface of a streaming current of reactionary consciousness. The sort who find themselves enacting impulsive deeds of passionate hedonism are often the same to display unfettered bouts of emotions like grief or regret.
I'll never understand how someone can just take a life. Both of my parents we're murdered, left in a hole not found for a year. We still have no suspect. No one's been charged. I miss them both so much. I just wish I had someone to blame. Someone to ask why. They were amazing people and I'll never understand why.
I don't think we could ever understand someone so broken that they kill without a reason. At least in the case in the video, from his breakdown, I don't think he intended to do it. I think he was telling the truth in part when he was talking about them having a fight in his car, and in fear of his life being ruined by her, he ruined it in another way. It's a horrible situation, and he deserves what he gets for his actions. But, I don't think it was a cold blooded act.
My condolences for your family, though. I hope someday you can find the answer.
I would to defend my home. Sadly nuke a city to save my loved ones if they were hostages. I would absolutely become suicidal, but defending the people I love is my priority in life after burying so many. I am a broken man.
So defensive violence is where the only time I will do it
Thank you so much for the condolences everyone. Life has been so hard since I lost them. They were amazing people and my best friends. I miss them both so much. I just pray one day we will have answers.
I am so very sorry you had to experience such a horrible thing. My heart and prayers go out to you and I pray that the horrible person that did this is found soon.
I am sorry for your loss. It's important to say that under specific circumstances absolutely anyone can kill someone else. Now of course for some people it is easy to kill - you do not think twice when trying to swat a mosquito and some people (namely psychopaths and sociopaths) feel that lack of empathy towards other people. For these people pretty much any circumstances for them are the specific ones. But most others, rational and mentally healthy people, need to reach their breaking point. Most never do. Some do in self defence (a lot of people do not even there). Some do after being trained, groomed or taught to do so. Some do due to desperation. And some are just born past their own breaking point.
@Gavin Stone its so pathetic. I wish it was true though.
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Tom Foolery2020-02-21 13:47:42 (edited 2020-04-22 23:24:24 )
I asked my wife last night while we were driving what night her hair appointment was. It was a 2.5 km long response. If she ever gets interrogated for anything, she’s going to jail forever.
@Ashelyn Rodriguez - Lighten up Ashelyn, He was joking about the fact that his wife is windy. I was also joking about the fact that my wife won't shut up. These were jokes okay? We are well aware that people do not get sentenced to prison for excessive talking.
@Don Miller "lighten up" you dont even know me. I'm a funny person but these aren't funny "jokes". They're lame and people keep saying the same shit over in the comments. I have a right to comment just as much as you do. "Lighten up". Sorry maybe I don't understand old man humor.
Lmao thank you for the laughs, Tom and Don! My significant other isn't as grateful unfortunately. My cackling woke him up (currently 1:30AM), but he'll get over it. Hopefully, it'll be in the same manner that the jokes went over *Ashelyn's head.
never noticed this. makes a lot of sense though if he visits a lot of crime scenes. doctors typically wear bowties instead of long ties to avoid them dangling during an examination
or easier, from what we can gather form this video, detectives use every means at their disposal even if that means looking harmless and even stupid if that means putting the suspect in a false sense of security. anything and everything, within legal boundaries, to trip them up.
I mean, if he did freak out and try to strangle him with the long tie that would kind of be the best outcome in a way? They could hold him on that charge, he looks very guilty and there's no way he'd be able to kill him in a police station...is there?
Sorry, narrator: It is NOT hard to watch his self-centered, self-pitying wailing at the end. He is NOT human, he has no remorse for what he did to Savannah, and I feel no pity for him. Have fun in prison, coward.
an unusual place for a self inflicted injury? really? i have self inflicted scars on my neck and i swear the neck is at least the 4th common thing after wrists,thighs,head...and then neck? no?
just researched and wrists 30%. thighs 7%. head and neck 2%. which are the most common.
"I just did some heroin".. lmfao... as someone who has has issues with drugs in the past I have never EVER heard someone on heroin use that name when talking about said drug. That's what people say who have zero clue call drugs. By their proper name. Lmfao
Is a lawyer in the US even more expensive than a hospital stay or why don't people ask for one at the latest when they realize something is wrong? Apart from that, there are helpful videos on YT for people in such situations, like "Don't Talk to the Police".
Paul Dudley2022-02-23 12:10:32 (edited 2022-02-23 12:11:04 )
The captions at 37:53 are wrong. He says, "Savanah, I was so nice to you" ('You' being Savanah. Then he says, "For somebody who was a bitch to you", turning the You back to first person, him. He's arguing with himself, how could she have been a bitch, (and forced him this far) when he had been so nice to her. "How does that make any sense?" - This is the follow up 'pat me on the back', question.
I have the feeling that the female investigator was very emotional but suddenly turns quietly and analytical. Is this a thatic or something? To assimilate the women white the emotional aspect??
Because every cop show on TV makes a point of saying that someone looks guilty if they lawyer up or refuse a polygraph. A lot of people think their best play is to co-operate and bullshit their way out of it.
yeah... "she does hard drugs. I can't do the hard stuff" like the interviewer is just gonna write this off mentally as a drug addict and this amazing manager chef was just mixed up with a junkie.
JCS commentary doesn't mention that the detectives are working against each other - the male is leading him up the garden path of a fake story to lead him into a self-contradiction, but before he gets there, the female jumps in badgering him; she's undermining the male's strategy, because all she achieves is a blanket denial. So it would have been just as effective to simply have shown him the video in the first place, and then leave him alone to curse his bad luck in getting caught.
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-Is this a good situation? To be a scribe? -You know, I don’t think there are good or bad situations. If I had to sum up my life today with you, I’d say that this is firstly meetings, people who gave me their hands may be at a moment when I couldn’t, when I was alone at home. And it is a bit curious to realize that coincidences and meetings forge a destiny because when you have the taste of the thing, when you have the taste of the well done thing, the beautiful gesture, sometimes you don’t find the speaker, I’d say, the mirror which helps you to progress. Well, it’s not my case today because I could, and I thank life, I sing life, I dance life, I’m nothing but love. And finally, when a lot of people ask me “How do you do to have this humanity?” I simply answer, it is this taste of love, this taste of water which pushed me today to undertake a mechanic construction but tomorrow, who knows, I would may be serve the community, and give the gift.. The gift of myself.
Detective: "So how did you know Savannah?" Lee: "It's been 84 years, and I can still smell the fresh paint. The china had never been used. The sheets had never been slept in. Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams"
@Victor-Marius Pîrvan I bet you're one of those "what-about" guys. Every time something horrible happened to a woman, you probably would say "what about that one time this one woman hurt this one guy?"
@Tony Arcieri women refuse to admit this shit like its some sort of secret women get charges for the same crimes a man does and they get less time or penalties a man does
@autumn h above someone commented it was because he eventually took a plea to have some charges dropped for second degree murder . I think he should have gotten life this was horrific she was only 21 and he mutilated her body after the fact.
@TP the reason you’re saying he’s an”what about” guy is because you know it’s hypocritical. “What aboutery” is what hypocrites accuse in others as a defence.
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Evin Ortiz2021-08-13 19:15:19 (edited 2021-08-13 19:20:46 )
@cornnflaek yeah you are right its mens fault for putting women on a pedestal when they clearly done nothing to deserve it n im not jealous of anything men never needed such a thing why would we need it now and you just admitted to it right there just because if you are a woman you go straight to a pedestal you understand at least that much i hope
Am I really the only one who is shocked & disgusted at ONLY 40 years?...that is NOT justice. Justice is having his life taken from him in the same manner that he ruthlessly took his victim. Our “justice system” is more broken than the victim’s neck!
A girl lost her life because he didn’t want to lose his job or get caught cheating. Chilling. He could have found another job. Her life taken over a job. Just crazy and cold.
What did he even think would happen, like if he'd lose his job over dating her, it's not like kidnapping and killing her would prevent that. Is their boss gonna be like, "Ah, Savannah's gone, how weird. Lee, I bet you weren't dating her, you're promoted!"
I highly doubt he was afraid of being caught cheating, since his coworkers have described him as a very promiscuous guy who is very successful with ladies.
The girl he was dating knew it for sure, she just stayed with him regardless.
He must have gotten his ego hurt real bad, Savannah likely struck a nerve, or something.
@helBob No, you can be insured through other means and if you dont like the one your work place offer than you can chose your own from other providers. And if You're on unemployment than you get government insurance if I'm not mistaken. I've never been on unemployment so I dont know the details as far as that goes.
Bring back the death penalty for real. Perhaps it is the only way to make ''not being murdered by the state'' a more important priority than ''girlfriend drama''
I am in no way defending a murderer but in this country we're a job is the difference between pretty much life and death I can see why people murder each other over jobs. Maybe if we had a more just and equitable society things like this wouldn't happen
What do you mean timestamp, it's the whole video from beginning to the end haha, in my case if interrogation last more than 15min I would ask for lawyer no matter what, I would stop talking without lawyer, I mean talk to the police can't last 2 hours unless they think you are guilty. I've been in situation and talk with police, but only as witness, and that lasted about 8 minutes, but inspector was still very suspicious and looking cautiously at me. Well I was with prosecution for more than hour she as just typing what I was sayng and asking me questions, but not police inspector for that long, if police inspector is asking too many questions you must know you are in trouble.
@Trevor PB No shit, that's what happens. Ive seen some where as soon as the suspects like "...I think i need a lawyer." the cops are like "Noooo! You dont need a lawyer!" then they say "Yeah, i definitely need a lawyer." and the cops just throw everything in the air and yell "GODFUCKINGDAMNIT!"
I worked in a kitchen years ago. There’s 2 type of people there. People who are making extra cash or are young, and people with issues. This isn’t far off. Also, I RARELY eat out
That female cop was awful. I had to turn my volume down because of her. She went from 0 to 10 way too fast and it was just jarring. I'm assuming she wasn't a good theater student.
yaa63 Nah, as someone who takes it daily as a prescription, his endless ramblings and speeches and stories that go on for minutes is definitely induced by Adderall. One time I accidentally took twice my daily dosage and I ended up having a 30 minute conversation with my friend that consisted of literally only me talking lol
God it was hell when I was arrested for weed..a few hours in the drunk tank..on adderall..first ever ever time in jail..that was hell..i can't imagine for murder
@BEEPGAMEOVER as someone who takes vyvanse (very similar to adderall) for my adhd, i perform significantly worse on days i forget my dose. on days i do take my dose life is much better. it's not just simply "can't focus disorder", it affects your mood and executive functions. i feel more "zooked" when i miss my dose. just thought i should point that out for you or anyone reading
@Kuhneegit my sister is infamous for doing the same thing! She will get on a tweak and talk so long I will set the phone down sometimes while she's talking and go do something and come back and she will still be talking. It's amazing, really. Love that woman...
BEEPGAMEOVER That isn’t how it works. I dislike it as well, but it doesn’t just “make you focus”, it allows you to actually organize your thoughts. When I’m not on it I’m an anxiety-filled mess that sleeps 15 hours a day and gets overwhelmed by the slightest bit of pressure. When I’m on it, it eases everything up and allows me to sort out my mind and figure out how to deal with things better. I don’t get high off of it, hell I only take 10mg a day, which I’ve forced the doctors to give me even though they wanted to give me 25mg. They prescribe it because it works. If you’ve never taken it before, I really don’t recommend trying to take a stance on whether or not it should be prescribed to people.
Lady Jay Mac My family always knows when my dose kicks in because I just creep out of my room into my living room and have a random ass conversation with my parents for 25 minutes straight
Especially coming down off that shit during that whole interrogation? Jeeeeeeesus he felt all that shit all at once soon as the detectives left him alone
I. Wynn Wynn You are Bugggggin! I did 90 days in HCDC in Maryland and only 10 again at same place another time. The booking process for the 90 days I was going through Xanax, opiate withdrawal and was in absolute hell didn’t even care about my charges just how I felt like shit. Now second time when they was petty put me in for 10 i was 100% sober besides some weed and it was a fucking breeze waiting them 90 minutes sometimes more
@Lady Jay Mac that's my son's Dad. If he calls I listen for the first 3 minutes to get the important information then set the phone down for 20. Our son is 17 now so it's not like he needs to communicate that much to me. He just never shuts the f up 😂.
BEEPGAMEOVER were your parents also siblings? Water is one molecule away from being hydrogen peroxide, doesn’t mean it’s fuckin safe to drink. You don’t get to define another persons struggle with mental illness, and you definitely don’t get to fuckin tell somebody that they shouldn’t be taking a medication that helps them. I’m sorry if you can’t imagine what it’s like to be non-neurotypical, but your lack of empathy combined with something you saw on Fox doesn’t make you a medical expert.
@Rosie Cheeks that's how you know you don't need them is when they make you go more a strange but if they even you out that's how you know you do need. It's been hard to see if I needed them are not but nevertheless I had energy to do stuff but he is but my focus attention has done a u-turn on me because of something tragic and if something works by you great but if it doesn't don't worry they'll come out with a pill for something eventually! My fairy doll with don't make fun of it until you live in that same Glass House as the people that suffer from certain things we don't ask for this shit trust me I didn't know anything about shit Ned's until late late late in my life all I knew it was posed back and regular over-the-counter meds didn't know nothing about opiates and shit like that but now that I've studied it since I have a bunch of kids and I want to learn about stuff and why kids act the way they do what you can do to help them what you can't do because it's beyond even your own ability as parent so yes people do look find the pot to pills personally I wish pot works better than what I feel like it does I see it has a little bit of a psychedelic effect to it but it doesn't take away every goddamn thing that's wrong with me so I kind of pissed me off when people say to me at work for them I don't know I get the munchies for junk food and a couple of okay other things in my life but it's no magic cure 100% from a .. but nothing I would not rely on every day marijuana to make my day better.... I wish it work for all the THINGS.. even like IBS!
@BEEPGAMEOVER its great that you dont need it, but if you did need it then you would understand. Plus for a lot of people who need it, it does not make them zonked, it makes them perform like normal
@ashton h Sooooo tired of defending the medical necessity of my adderall prescription. If you don't have the medical issues that necessitate the need to be prescribed the medication, then you'll NEVER understand how it FEELS to have the condition. And it DOES AFFECT EVERY SINGLE AREA OF YOUR LIFE!!!!! Anyone else who's reading this that has. ADHD or ADD will understand what I'm saying. God I wish I could be "normal" but it is a genetic disorder passed down from generations in my family. OCD, anxiety, depression, addictive personality...co-dependancy. So yeah I have ADD and I take adderall. If you only knew how I felt before I was diagnosed you wouldn't take it so lightly. It's not a recreational drug to me.
@Kuhneegit Amen. I take it too. It helps me immensely. Wasn't diagnosed til I was 36. Once I began taking it I realized I really needed help way back when I was a pre-teen.
@ashton h This is true, My Sister takes it. I asked my doctor about it, he said it works differently for people who actually need it, it balances them.
Lol and the US private health system. I’m not making an argument for nationalised V private, but you sure as hell have a lot of sketchy “conditions” which require hard drugs like Oxy and Meth for. In U.K., these are harder to get prescribed than finding the ark of the covenant. In the US - “yes sir! Have some drugs sir! Slight pain? Have a synthetic opioid! Did you feel sad for 10 mins? Have some Xanax!” I had a hernia operation which was painful for a week and I got a couple of codeine and paracetamol and ibuprofen. That’s it. Most of your “conditions” which “need” adderral or benzos are just the shit people have to deal with that a doctor has convinced you is a disorder.
Just FYI I checked and the U.K. rate of ADHD in adults is 2%. It’s 4.4% in the USA. I wonder why? Couldn’t be anything to do with the profit motive could it?
I used to be on 40mg at my lowest depressions, but even on 20mg I know I would be bonking my head on the table just to get any form of stimulation lmao.
BEEPGAMEOVER I take adderall for chronic fatigue due to major depressive disorder. If I don’t take my dose, I literally cannot find the motivation to move or focus on anything. Before I got on it, I would spend hours laying in bed and staring at the wall, constantly tired, just waiting to die. I’m so much more energetic, motivated, and happy now that I’m on it; I’m eternally grateful for my LeGaL mEtH.
Chikin Loaf Good work figuring out your chemicals. As my very own father used to say, “Life is a process of figuring out those chemicals that work for you and learning how to use them.” I appreciate your balanced stance.
@アリス。 Adderall basically makes neurotypical people very hyped up and excited as it is a stimulant. People with ADD suffer from a lack of stimulation so Adderall helps them feel stimulated.
It doesn’t do anything for me. I have it forma sleepingdisorder. It fails when my sleepattack is bad, I sleep right through it. I can’t understand what it does that makes someone abuse it. I mean I knowing from my job as a pharmacy technician (which due to my disorder I can’t do anymore) but I can’t feel it if you know what I mean. I’ve had oxycodone and that one I could understand. I’m always surprised someone would misuse it for say a study or a party or whatever.
Chikin Loaf you sleep a terrible lot off it too? Finally someone who experiences that too, not that I wish it on anyone but I am always disbelieved when I have to explain it’s really necessary for me to function. One doc even took me off it without any contact with the sleepspecialist, but after consulting another doctor totally out of the field. At that point to keep some rhythm zoals took Ambien. And because of the latter they discontinued the Adderall. They never listened to the fact that I had my sleepingshit waaaaaaay before I ever had medication of any sorts. No it was all because the Ambien. I’m also bipolar 2 and one time I was hospitalized for something unrelated and the first thing they wanted to do? Take me off the adderall as my then hypomanic episode was obviously due to the Adderall. It was not, I’ve taken it without being hypomanic. The psychiatrist then called my therapist to basically check if my story even checked out and if that sleepingdisorder was real. Yeah no I managed to fake my sleeptests, all of them just so I could party my head off. I hate this constant doubt, the constant disbelief, the constant “hypomanic? You have to stop the Adderall because that’s why”. Pffffrt.
EGstill85 I don’t think you should double up your dose if you forgot to take it tbh... I hope you won’t ever do that with other meds like say even acetaminophen if you’d have to take it 4 times a day.
Rlnstn Zoloft isn’t a miracle drug either, there’s plenty more options. If you’re gonna say Adderall isn’t a miracle drug, then don’t name one specific other one as if that one is.
rafer Jefferson iii aww you sound upset. Trust me, the issues I have been prescribed my meds for outside the US are no joke. Wanna trade with that “that’s just life”-shit if you have no idea what the hell you are actually talking about?
I understand this is not exactly the proper form when a Young Lady has been Horribly Murdered . However I’m 50 about to be 51 some of the younger people here is a FYI for anyone that cares.... 2016 I was hospitalized to do mental and physical exhaustion!! Not the mental ward !! Intensive care . Quite frankly I was hallucinating did not recognize anyone except my 2 adult kids... once discharged form the hospital. I had no choice but to immediately go back to work I needed the insurance to continue getting medical treatment!!! Last 4 years I’ve seen every specialist under the sun . Spent an enormous amount of money from copays and some Dr.s did not accept any insurance so completely out of pocket ... now this has been like my 4th sleep study coming up this October..... I’m currently talking armodifinal ( think I spelled that right ?) anyway it does NOT get me high !! It does NOT give me lots of energy !! Best yet NO Nervousness or Heart Rate increase .... Simply gives me just a basic push to think clearer and most days get my 8 hour shift of work done . Some weeks I can not pull off a 40 hour work week .... even with the medication!!! I have been diagnosed with narcolepsy, sleep Apena , and circadian rhythm is messed up from working night shift my entire life !! Although truth be known on bad days when I take it .... I can go right back to sleep ( like it doesn’t work at all ) good days I get through my work shift!!! Nothing else to give !!! At this point I do believe I’m going to be forced go on disability... I really do not want that !!! Although I want to live a decent life ..... since 2016 I don’t have a very good quality of life !!! No energy to go to fun things with friends, family . All I got is enough to take my medication and do my best to go to work everyday.... The medication does help. Although instead of working eight hours a day. I think I should take that medication and focus on trying to go to the gym and take better care of myself. Because after working 40 hours a week I have nothing left. Best wishes to all please don’t do drugs are not prescribed. There’s a lot more to this. Obviously it’s long enough already. But I feel like a criminal in order to get this medication I have to be piss tested every month just so the insurance company will pay for the medication it is extremely expensive $29.73 a pill . I did not fail a piss test in the hospital 2016 and I have not failed a piss test since!!! I don’t do drugs .... I have a federal Job I never wanted to jeopardize. Best of luck y’all hope you learn from an old lady💕
@E mor Craziest part is that they run a test or two, ask some questions, and then prescribe it. I get that some of the people @ing me in this convo felt some type of way about my previous statement, but it's really not out of line. For hundreds of thousands of years humans have had to run around, hunt, scavenge, etc. There were always tasks to be done. The past couple of centuries. especially in our era, we have had to do less and less. Our mind wanders, we aren't used to sitting around in classrooms, or sit inside and play video games all day. Sure a lot of us can adapt fairly well and get by, but that doesn't mean we should drug the ones who struggle to do things we have barely had to time evolve to do. This is coming from someone who has many of the same symptoms as others have described, I have a brother who took Vyvanse for over a decade, and I've been around plenty of people who use it both because they "need" it and those who don't. And just like other amphetamines, there becomes a dependency, so of course all of you telling me you take it to feel normal and feel sick or anxious when you don't take it feel that way lmao. There are definitely those who "need" it more than others, but it is factually overprescribed and there are many people who definitely do not need it that take it. The first thing that should be recommended before taking pills is plenty of exercise, runs, sports, swimming, etc, and a change of diet. If none of that works, and you desperately need drugs to complete the tasks that society has convinced you to do, then go for it. Still think it shouldn't be prescribed to kids with developing brains, unless it is an extreme situation.
@Chikin Loaf @Meth Mommy @Rosie Cheeks @Mr Avocado Man @C Y @ashton h Please read above. Again I'm not attacking you I'm moreso pointing out flaws in the system. There are good doctors, and there are lazy doctors. Prescribing these drugs in a lot of cases is the lazy way out. I'm always going to cater towards my kids, I'm not going to drug them because they don't sit well in class or the teacher feels they can't focus. If they grow up and choose to take it, once they are of an age where they say "Hey, I really am having issues that are affecting the quality of my life, we have tried this and that and it still isn't working" then so be it. I'm not giving it to a bloody 8 year old.
@jan You're username is "Meth Mommy" and you're going to ask me if my parents were siblings...? That's rich. I don't know if you're trolling me or not lmao
BEEPGAMEOVER for people that have ADHD, such as myself, when you don’t take your meds is when you’re “zooked” as you put it. When you take your meds you should feel calm, and able to think clearly, which allows you to do your daily tasks. For people who do not have adhd, and they take stimulants, it absolutely will crack them out and give them that Meth sort of feeling. I could take mine, and still go back to sleep, because my mind isn’t going 1000 miles an hour. Friends that have taken it for fun? Pfft they don’t stop moving, and talking. I’ll never understand why someone would want to take it for fun, I’d love to not ever have to take it and just function like a “normal” person.
Adderall isnt meth, just as mdma isnt meth, despite the ma in mdma standing for methamphetamine. An extra bond or two makes a huge difference in chemistry. Methamphetamine is neutotoxic while amphetamine is not. I take Adderall with a prescription because it helps me be productive. Im also narcoleptic so it keeps me from sleeping excessively all day so i can get stuff done and organize my thoughts better. Reading these other comments of people taking it makes me realize my experience with it isnt unique and it is helpful in similar ways to lots of people. The whole meth myth is confounding to me because nobody yells at depressed people taking sri's 'oh youre just taking prescription ecstasy fucking junkies' because it helps them manage in their day to day lives. Adderall doesnt get me high, i dont feel the need to clean, do something constantly etc. It does make me a little more chatty though which is also good i was always a shy and kinda awkward teenager. Anyways my point being, why stigmatize something that helps many people be more functional members of society with no harm to you if you dont need it?
@BEEPGAMEOVER because you’re not a doctor and have zero medical knowledge to understand a mental illness like ADHD. I have ADD and take Ritalin, people call it kiddie coke and act like I do drugs. That’s awful!
Without looking. Maybe 25 multi paragraph responses (also edited) by prescribed users of Adderall saying that somehow this comment is attacking them for their use case. Lol.
While facing the gravity of what has happened. I cant even imagine what that'd be like. At about 30 min in, he would probably confess to another murder just to get a xanax or two.
@BEEPGAMEOVER "zooked" isnt a good term for those who use it to control adhd. Binge eaters with a prescription can feel totally stimulated for a long time though.
@BrainScramblies it always blows my mind how people assume that anyone with adhd who is prescribed medication (be it adderall, concerta or whatever) exists in a state of drug-induced high constantly. it's the other way around, if i am not on meds i will talk anyone's ears off, bounce around and be a complete disorganized mess. my meds prescription allowed me to be able to sit for more than 30 minutes at a time and for my emotions to chill the fuck out instead of throwing me into emotional dysregulation of hell everytime something went wrong. i actually arrive on time to appointments and rarely forget my personal belongings all over the place. the reason why our brains react like this to stimulants it's because they are biologically and chemically different and i wish people would just educate themselves :')
@Fatts a room in a jail that's just a bed that's connected to the floor. No TV (a lot of jails have those) and a door with a tiny slot. Usually where they put duis for overnight stay or do their booking
i'm not saying this guy, but in general I feel like i would give long answers bc im always so anxious but not guilty ya know? like its the same way when i go through checkout like "what if they caught me" when i didnt do anything wrong.
Lee: Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar, master of all four elements, could stop them..
A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Avatar, an airbender named Aang, and although his airbending skills are great, he still has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone.
The world has changed. I see it in the water. I feel it in the Earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, For none now live who remember it.
He sounds like he know what the fuck he's talking about, But he doesn't Probably read some blogs here and there to use his decent voice to get that yt cash.
yeah you know, I disagree with the narrator here, the detective already said he knew Lee knew Savanna from work and they had dated, and wanted to be filled in on the details, so Lee giving a more detailed reply seems perfectly normal to me. I see no reason why an innocent man wouldn't have done the same
Guys chill it’s not about every question and method to every question it’s about the red line that achieves the result you need to finish the case. He talks about his mother because it shifts the focus not on him and it creates a relief for the brain that’s one of the key point we usually look for and not “oh short answer omg truth gg”
you have to give credit though. it was thorough (minus the part about murdering her...) ★ Also, wanted to post this up here, you can watch the entire interview / confession if you search: The wholeCrazy Crimesz YouTube channel “Lee Rodarte Full Confession to Co-workers Murder”
(saw this referenced by @QueenE Jj in a comment below)
@Joacim Hjalmarsson you think he makes videos for profit? You know what, you may be right. I also long suspected mcdonalds makes burgers for profit as well. What kind of world do we live in? Sad.
@Joacim Hjalmarsson well if not for cash, why is he here? and besides, it isnt like hes giving us shit content for money, its actually entertaining and somewhat educational.
My thoughts on why he did it is, he’s probably the type of dude to sleep with the employees, be overly flirtatious with customers. He rubs girls the wrong way (no pun intended) and made them resentful towards him as well. And as he said, she was going to the higher ups about him for having relationships with the girls working with him. I believe that was actually true. He saw this as a threat to his whole identity. He doesn’t strike me as the type of guy who’s a real chef. I’m a real chef. I went to culinary school in Japan so in this case, “it takes one to know one” and I’m not seeing a chef, lol. I see a guy who was given that title, used it to get women, abused his power at work, met a girl who wasn’t going to stand for him dogging her, was going to report him, he didn’t want to lose his job because there goes the, “I’m a chef” persona that most likely was how he got women and his income so he killed her for that reason. I never understood why anyone would want to complicate their work environment like that though. This guy is a cold blooded, narcissistic idiot who thought he was a lady’s man who took the life of an innocent girl… I don’t knew why I’m so fascinated with true crime now but I really wish I was somehow able to save these people…
@ItzJustEllie You think he’s being remorseful? Lol. You really don’t see what’s really going on so you? Lol. First off, no one talks to themselves like that in great detail like that as if they’re on some sort of cheesy sitcom. The guy knew he was being recorded. He knew. That was all an act to make it appear as if it was an accident. If you take things at face value so easily, I’m glad you’re not a cop. Killers would be roaming free. That guy went there with the intent to kill. Plain and simple. Pay attention to the words he uses and the way he’s talking. No offense but you really shouldn’t allow yourself to be that naive. Because what that guy was trying to do with the police who he knew were watching his act, that act worked on you. But not on the police.
Where are his violent tendencies? While feeling sorry for himself, he should at least have broken a chair or 2. Either that or the murder was planned and not on impulse. Was this an ego trip? "She could ruin me" type of deal?
He's probably imposed a feeling of guilt on himself as a coping mechanism; he may very well be sorry for the murder, but only out of a reaction to its consequences
For once I feel like he's sorry he killed her. He doesn't deserve less jail time or a nicer sentence but I feel better knowing that at least sometimes, criminals feel repent for their actions, even if it never brings the victim back
you can see him experience the gravity of his situation. Any happiness he has known will no longer exist. He had squandered the life he was given, and seeing it go makes him fall apart.
Exactly. Any remorse he expresses for his actions towards Savannah are in direct relation to the consequences he is about to face. He apologizes to her, but then expresses how he was "going somewhere" and constantly remarks on how stupid he was. When he expresses how nice she was to him, he rebukes with a sharp claim about how she was a bitch. He's not sorry for her. He's sorry that he reacted in a way that is ruining his life. The tears are for himself and his lost future, not for the loss of a life he took.
Sometimes seeing the gravity of the situation only occurs when someone has confronted him with it. A person is a echo-chamber and if the correct view doesn't occur by itself someone needs to shout it to him. So, true, he is sorry that he got caught (sorry for his life now being ruined), but also true that he is actually remorseful of killing her now that he sees the gravity of it and hopefully the importance of her life (his internal monologue seem to confirm this). At least that's my perspective.
If she didn't kick her partner to shut up at 29:50 then I was going to jump through my computer and do it for her.. She had him ready to spill his guts and he interupted
I don't know why any of these self-imagined criminal masterminds think that by blabbing endlessly they are doing anything helpful for themselves under interrogation. Once you're arrested or under suspicion you should never say anything to police without a lawyer if you have any intent of not accepting a plea bargain.
@iceink They've always been able to get themselves out of rough situations; Talk out of anything. they legitimately believe they'll simply be released if they just lie as usual.
I believe this sentiment sets a rather high bar for sentencing. For this, you have to prove deliberation beyond the shadow of a doubt. You have, out of ignorance, created a GIANT GAPING loophole for murderers to escape their justified sentences. It is a good thing lawmakers are smarter than you.
@Mystic AMV's JCS currently stands for Jim Can’t Stream (can’t take the credit for that, saw a headline) As I understand it, they took down his videos, refuse to give him a reason or even communicate with him. (You can check his Twitter, I stay away from that evil place) Buuuut…I’m wondering if he’ll be back soon, because I just checked & I think some of the deleted videos may be back. And about 2 weeks ago he uploaded a video called “The End Of JCS”…and it’s gone, along with a couple others about the end of his channel. I’m hoping JCS removed them himself cuz he’s coming back🤞🏼or it’s YT really being dicks
@Snarkastic Squid Thanks I already was wondering. I searched for this channel because I wanted to see if something new was up, and then I saw last video 8 months ago. And I knew that it was not that long ago so I was already wondering what happened to the newer ones. Really hope he gets put of this because this gus is really one of a kind in making content.
@Johan I thought I posted an update here yesterday but I don’t see it…JCS has left the building. For good, won’t be back. He’s looking for another less restrictive platform. YT was flagging & deleting his uploads for ridiculous reasons. YT’s loss anyway. There may be copycats, but they don’t do the quality of psychological analysis JCS does. He said he’d announce on his Twitter when he figures out where he’s going next. Cheers!
Yo let's start a petition to get JCS a Netflix series. Cmon Sarandos, if Sandler can get all that bread for his movies, can't we break off JCS with a couple mil for a great series?
I really hope he comes back. His videos are the best truecrime on youtube. But atleast there's a silverlining to this, the fact that we got a whole new genre of truecrime to youtube because of him, JCS inspired. ❤️
@Emmi Su he actually just posted on Jim Can't Swim a few days ago, he just hasn't been uploading on JCS Criminal Psychology. It's not the same content but we can still support him and give him the views/likes/comments he deserves.
Youtube (Alphabet / Google) would never allow genuine educational videos that may save the innocent from being taken advantage-of by the evil, that goes against what they exist for.
@spicy_kitty You are a fool if you think this as at all has anything to do with a narrative. YouTube is a company. YouTube wants money. In order to get money, they want advertiser-friendly videos. This is not a video advertisers want to put ads on, so YouTube does not prioritize it. This is just capitalism doing capitalism things.
@Rotpar Jesus I only called him that because he calls himself that in defence of all the provably wrong stuff he has said over the years. Though I don't know why I'd expect fan's of Rogan to research anything, especially the idiot they are trying to defend and or promote.
Has YT become hyper-allergic to the truth? This is rock-solid documentary! What’s the matter, YT? We can’t all watch cute kittens all the time, and this is very educational and also reassuring for the public to watch competent investigators getting at the true crime…
@Snarkastic Squid If that's the case, I hope JCS finds an alternative platform and I'd more than happily pay towards a Patreon to support this content.
@Snarkastic Squid the worst part is he just BLEW UP, that faked insanity video suddenly got trillions of views, hed been fairly well known the last few years i followed the channel but that one really got the algorithms attention..and now theres hundreds and hundreds of "JCS Inspired" channels which is code for 'blatant ripoffs'
@June Wang You could also learn all of this stuff if you major in psychology in college. Are we going to stop allowing people to study psychology, because it may allow them a chance to better respond to police interrogation? I don’t think so. I think this is a pretty silly opinion on your part
@Isaac Clodfelter dude you're stone cold, 🐂👁️. Everyone that watches Toe Rogaine needs to see the video of him admitting he would sell his grandparents if it would make him rich and famous.
@Snarkastic Squid maybe YT demontized him because he was revealing police interrogation techniques to millions of potential murders/felons who could benefit from that knowledge
@Isaac Clodfelter Rogan hasn't always been the smartest but he really showed how viable long form interviews are and has blown open the possibilities for non-gatekeeper controlled discussion for dissidents, whistleblowers, victims of censorship and cover-ups, alternative thinking in dogma dominated academic fields, etc. certainly not all guests are bringing superior repressed perspectives to the show, but the good vastly outweighs the bad. The Western media has degenerated so badly, our culture has embraced censorship and illiberalism and we badly need to identify each other and self organize into alternative systems to move the needle towards repairing our declining culture
Dude I love how the female interrogator was silent the whole time then immediately bombards him with emotional distress and confrontation. That must've sent his anxiety skyrocketing.
@V A lmao you act like there wasn’t a plan and that this isn’t what she does for a living. She’s v obviously really laying it on and it worked, so you think it’s a coincidence she didn’t say a single word until the male detective got more hostile in his questioning?
it's so funny reading all these comments of people who say the female detective did a bad job as if they know what they're talking about at all. it's kinda sad how pre-occupied so many guys are with slagging off women.
@Lloyd Lim I like that saying, there aren't any that I can think of in English that mean the same thing exactly but a similar phrase would be when "you are too close to the problem"
@idklol Eh, that onslaught of emotional begging was kind of cringey for me watching it, and I'm a woman not trying to slag off women. But it was only cringey for a moment until I remembered that it was obviously planned out that way for a reason.
@arenasification She is a detective not an actress. She also helped get a confession which is her job. That's like a pilot landing a plane and you complain about him being a bad cook.
@Connor Coultas not a correct comparison at all. The male detective sounds normal, she sounds ridiculous. She may be a good detective (investigating etc) but "acting" like she should have here, is not her strong suit. Just cause they were LUCKY and this idiot confessed doesn't mean she was good. Give me a break.
@arenasification You think the male detective wasn't aware of what she was going to do in the interrogation? That she was supposed to sit there silently the whole time, maybe lightly interject occasionally? Why have her there at all if so?
It's a two-pronged approach, the male detective kept a calm and sympathetic character while constantly providing outs to him while she directly and emotionally confronts him. Which yes, is obvious to us from our analytical standpoint. But to someone caught out in multiple lies over a murder he committed, it absolutely should be nerve wracking and would push him towards listening to the male detective's offers.
Ultimately, you can't really know if this was a bad tactic. The amount of stress and twisted mental state of someone covering up for a murder isn't something we can easily place ourselves into. I don't know how universally successful the tactic is, but it worked here, and the logic behind it is clear.
@Sashrin of course he knew it. of course it was clear that both would interrogate him. bad cop, good cop/double the pressure isn't a new concept. her performance was just like in a cheap bad theatre production, all I'm saying. nothing about the strategy. she went full on cringe with her voice.
@Sashrin you really think it was her fake transparent performance that got him to confess or the fact that he just lied to them and she tells him about how they have him on video so now he feels like he's been caught up in his own story worrying about how much they actually know? She had it easy.
@David_ Again, if she had it so easy, why have her there at all? He wasn't confessing when they revealed the videotape, they needed to push and compromise with him on it. You don't just present evidence with no tactic behind it during a police interrogation. Maybe it was all her, maybe the other detective could've gotten the confession alone, but I don't think your average person could say either way. It's obvious it's an act to us, but maybe not to someone just irrefutably caught out over the fact they lied about a murder and is frantically trying to think of an explanation.
I see some comments to the effect that the female interrogator was amazing, and I believe they're right. However, it wasn't her over the top demeanor when she "barged" into the conversation that got me. Rather, it was when she dropped her voice, lower and lower, as she realized she was getting him to agree with her.
That's when I realized it was all an act. Before that it felt contrived and stilted, but when I realized she was just setting up the moment when her voice became almost hypnotic, I completely changed my opinion of her on the spot.
As I was realizing this, Lee began to disagree again, and her voice rose in challenge, then lowered when he began nodding again, calm and soothing.
She was pretty amazing. I might have recommended setting a baseline a little lower than she did, except now it's easy to see how masterful she is at her craft, so obviously I can't really critique.
I think she oversold it a bit, myself, especially since this was more a formality than anything. She and the other detec. knew he was guilty when they walked into the room together, but then again, you can't just tap the stupid on the shoulder anymore- ya gotta hit 'em with a sledgehammer. Crim psych is a fascinating rabbit hole.
I was wondering what it was about her that got me on edge. I honestly hates listening to her and your comment made me understand why. She is conniving and manipulative. I probably would have confessed just so she would stop talking.
The best bit for me was was all the silence and no eye contact from her. He kept looking for her approval before she even acknowledged him. Silent, on her phone, busy, unbothered, unimpressed by him. Nice. Very nice.
@Suzuki GSXFA shes very smart and the fact she stayed silent for the first half only to pop in here and there and then put on that desperate act while also grilling him was amazing. criminal psychology is more than just "begging" shes super smart. "but thats not true because we have proof." amazing
I loved how she blatantly ignored him and was on her phone when the other detective went to get water. Lee stared at her for a looong time; you can see him getting slowly getting sick as he realized the pretty, cheerful, & sweet looking one definitely the "BAD cop"
@Suzuki GSXFA Don't forget that Lee was known for having a lot of luck with women. So having a calm and rational detective would only trigger his fight or flight mechanism which would be too soon. They basically needed the female interrogator to play the role of a troubled and emotional woman in order to fit the stereotype that Lee was trying to create. Begging him at first and completely losng interest in him later was what worked for Lee. But let's say Lee was innocent. Unlike some assumed, the female interrogator wouldn't make him confess falsely. It's the exact opposite, she would've pissed him off in the same way she pissed people in the comments off. Because people like Lee would desperately want her to listen, especially when they were in the right and "a stupid woman" was being totally unreasonable. In conclusion the roles the interrogators decided to play were pre-designed based on what they know about the suspect. And in Lee's case, a rational male AND an emotional female interrogator were neccessary in order for everything to work out. And both of the them played their own role perfectly.
I actually liked the female detective. She budged in at the right time and threw Lee off guard. She was a complete opposite to the lead detective and I think she was trying to be the "assertive nice cop" and the realistic one. The way she pleaded and got emotional, I think she was trying to confuse Lee and get him to be sympathetic or guilty for what he did. She almost sounded like a teenage girl, perhaps to get him to think about Savannah. She read his body language and charector and knew he wasn't a man incapable of remorse so appealing to him emotionally made him more frantic and more likely to confess. Also, the lead detective was great the whole time and I liked how he let her talk during the end of the interrogation. In the end, the strategy worked.
Sorry to say but she did some real bad acting..that is not how a detective talks .. judge me all you want but being a detective is a mans job. At the end i will not deny this, she got the job done. And i think it might not work with everyone like it worked on this piece of shiiit "Lee".
She's as 'lead'as her partner ,they're using tactics/strategies that they both review before any interview..watch carefully at 28.12 to 30.10 she takes her shoe off ,gets closer and signals her partner with her foot so he immediately stops talking so she can take over..it was all planned out hours before Rodarte sat in that chair...
@Derpingy wonder full the LLama Potato Some men have very strong superiority complexes :/ unfortunately. They’ve been taught they’re better, and in all their narcissism they believed it.
@NatsuONF I am in the law enforcement .. But im not a detective not interested to be one. And nope sir/mam, im not a feminist(the west has effed up that movement long ago) .. I believe in equality of opportunity but not equality of outcome.
@hailey fields Men are better in many areas ... And some people like you find it too difficult and sour to digest it. Sorry to be so blunt while i say that.. But that is the truth .. No disrespect to women.. Women have their own areas of expertise, where they excel. In fact the first two teachers of life were women, my mother and teachers(also dad). So i hold em in high regard. But competing with men on equal grounds in all areas is just plain stupid. Now that is why we have mens games and women's games separately.
@Ubermensch The footage they show of Lee kicking himself after confessing is proof that the female detective portrayed exactly who she needed to portray to touch the right nerve with him.
They dressed up the act as a family who deserves proper closure... but to me, it felt like who she was portraying was Savannah begging for her life. I think their strategy was that Lee was the kind of guy spending every waking minute since killing her wishing for a chance to undo what he had done.
@qwerty keyboard what ever that means... I just gave my opinion... But at the same time if there are women who want to work in areas they traditionally did not in the past, more power to them .... Like i said equality of opportunity should exist.. But one should accept the reality that equality of outcome cannot be expected.
@qwerty keyboard sorry mate... I doubt it ... Genderless is not desirable its detrimental to human societies.. Studies suggest so.. If you want sources just ask for it.
@KRISHNA Kona look up the definition of feminist. it just means that men are equal to women. if you disagree, your opinion on anything related to sex or gender doesn’t matter.
@KRISHNA Kona we found ourselves a special snowflake folks lol you actually believe that being a detective is a man's job while at the same time admitting she got the job done(because, ya know shes actually good at her job. Gender has nothing to do with it) and then the whole 'its really obvious you're a feminist' comment, I have to laugh. You're so threatened by powerful women its honesty funny
Btw detectives are trained to recognize what will and won't be the best approach to getting a suspect to open up to them and confess. Some people need to have this detectives approach, some need to feel like the detective is their buddy and some need a tough approach from detectives along with many other methods. It all goes down to someone's personality and a good detective of any gender will see that and know what to do to get the job done
If its not: it's an interrogation technique to get an emotional response from the suspect in a real life murder case. In no way was it supposed to be pleasant to anyone in this scenario. It's like good cop bad cop, it's a technique to garner sympathy or trust from the suspect in order to get them to confess or at least nervous, or in some cases calm enough to explain what happened.
@KRISHNA Kona YouTube comment sections are a great place to convince people that being a feminist is dumb you are rlly killing it here Krishna I applaud you keep going buddy plz let me know when the incel club meeting is I would love to join in
@christine michelle sorry mam... You got me wrong .. Threatened by powerful women you sa.. hell no mam.. Well that is my problem .. Women who fight for equality only really fight for positions of power like politics, bureaucratic positions, CEO's, sports, so on so forth. Its never about equal representation in fields like carpentry, blacksmiths, rig workers, mining etc. At the very least i have never seen one woman activist in my life till date saying they wanted representation in the above said vocations. My simple question to you and all in this comment section who are currently thinking im stupid is, why are these difficult and tough jobs ALMOST(there are exceptions) always a mans duty. Now isn't that hypocritical.
@Madison show me a lady working as a miner, carpenter, septic tank cleaners, rig workers, masons and many more... At least 20% .. Now there may be around 5-8%. Show me a figure greater than 20% and ill accept that im wrong.
@KRISHNA Kona what makes you think you haven’t convinced me? Your sources and sound logic have 100% convinced me that only men should be detectives and police officers. Great job! I feel so grateful to have come across your words in this comment section, you are truly doing the lord’s work!
@Haleigh Morgan hey ... You know what? let it be at that.. Did not mean to hurt anyone here .. Just put out my thought, never was convincing no one here...
I have zero idea why everyone is criticizing the female detective here. Both detectives have clearly planned out roles and do their jobs well here. She played her role well and got exactly the reaction they were looking for. Her role was to emotionally overwhelm him and that's what happened.
exactly. she seems a bit annoying to me too tbh but these interrogations aren't meant to be a show for us. it's a real world, a real murderer, this is real. and in reality, especially when you murdered someone, you don't find emotional outbursts annoying. people really should look the expressions of the murderer when the female detective play the "humanity" card. it's incredible how fast the murderer broke his character.
most people can't stand hysterical women yelling. its not convincing nor intimmidating. its annoying. This usually results in suspects shutting down or experiencing feelings of superiority
@Milchi actually the lead detective is playing the bad cop and the female detective is playing the good cop. she uses her emotions to try and confuse him and make him trust her. shes trying to find the good in him to get him to say something that can help them especially since the bad cop act wasnt working at all up to that point. its not supposed to be intimidating or convincing. he just went through an hour of getting interrogated by the male detective, and the female detective is supposed to come in as the nice and friendly person who hes gonna trust. he feels less threatened by her and is more likely to confide
@Milchi bruh. it was not "yelling". and you may find that annoying, you're not the one who's in the situation of that murderer. interrogations are psychological wars. you can't just comment "it's not convincing". did it work? it worked.
@the nameless it worked, essentially, because the evidence was substantial. You don't need a female interrogator to crack his base. It's just super cringe and annoying. Also not fun to watch for the audience.
I had a similar interaction when I was being interviewed, they were following a narrative that wasn’t true, and asked for a honest confession to a story that wasn’t real. The pressure you feel when being, interrogated in this position, honestly is terrifying, it should never go beyond emotion, The guy detective handled the whole situation perfectly, calm and passive aggressive.
Yeah her job is to show him how ppl feel about this, like Savannahs parents
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I don’t know2021-05-30 23:57:37 (edited 2021-05-30 23:59:04 )
It's just because women are shamed for having emotions. I'm AFAB and I'm very used to having my emotions blamed on hormones. See also: any joke about someone being on "that time of the month." She did a wonderful job and I sincerely doubt any man would be criticized like this.
What if she actually just lost it? And we're all being bamboozled here? She just said fuck it, I'm not a good actor, time to give real emotion. That would be a pretty big brain strat. She could still just play it off as an act maybe.
@A_True_Generic_Gamer Both the male and female detectives had very calculated actions. She did not just lose it. Another commenter noticed how they both have a signal. The female detective taps the male detective gently with her foot when she needs him to stop speaking and he immediately does so. This also happens during her "outburst" and it's clear that they had intended to do this all along.
I guess it worked but her whining and pleading would have irritated me or most men. The subject takes it better than I or maybe most men would. The sound of a shrill whining and pleading women is not generally one that induces truth telling and admission or results in appeals for morality. More like anger and resentment towards her and digging in of the heels. in that moment you're more likely to dislike her and therefore not give her what she wants. she becomes almost hysterical whether an act or not. Her appeals that the victim is like her own child and someone's daughter (everyone is someone's son or daughter) seem forced and not that effective she doesn't exude warmth or genuine concern for the victim or their family. It's really the admission that they have security footage contradicting his story that does most of the legwork in getting a confession.
@Milchi i doubt they give a shit about the "audience" its an interrogation not a show
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Joe Mama2021-05-31 22:23:53 (edited 2021-05-31 22:24:23 )
Yeah idk why people were complaining when her and male cop got the confession out of Lee. Like the way she was acting obviously did it’s job. Probably just misogyny as usual.
The female detective is playing superior mind games. Using the stereotypes about women being emotional and to her advantage, to overwhelm the perpetrator. She's definitely acting when she says i think of my little girl, not to say that she definitely doesn't have a daughter that age, but she deliberately sat silent for a long while to intimidiate him firstly since he didn't know what this detective was thinking and then she deliberately overplayed it and the good cop bad cop angle
Sociopaths become experts on understanding how their words and body language affect other people. Without empathy, they have to operate at a different level.
she was excellent indeed. not to take anything away from the male investigator (he did a great job too), but i believe the female detective's quick and to the point intervention was what turned the tide. well done to both of them!
@sunnycoast4558 yeah it was superior, it was emotional intimidation and the criminal fell for it hard, it's woerd that misogyny or plain stupidity stops people from seeing that it was all an act and the act worked out fabulously
She was appealing to his emotions and morals that the man has. Not every criminal is a diagnosed psychopath therefore it’s always worth trying to get at their emotions
Lady's boys often can't stand pretty girls not acknowledging them or treating them with contempt. The guy was also pretty and very fit, another thing they don't like. The most impressive thing is how simple their formula and profiling was.
Wrong. The female detective is likely on her period or being overly emotional for no reason when the interrogation calls for professionalism like her boss displays. He should have kicked her out of the room at least or told her to go get Lee some snacks or a sandwich because she was well out of line. It's amazing to me that women like this are allowed to carry loaded weapons. It's downright scary.
Yo she saw something in this man that I did NOT catch at first! That emotional play, I personally felt was overacting, but the results shocked me! Shows I have more to learn about feminine energy still:) Great detective, as well as her male counterpart! What a team!
@dbone024 I am you. Everyone in the world is you, it's why we call it Youniverse. Dualism implies oneness, just as left implies right. Opposites are the same. Nothing you do is hidden, "dbone" J. You think you know shit... XD At least it's funny to watch you scramble in your own confusion XDDD
It’s interesting to see a female investigator. Obviously interrogations are highly psychological and a woman in the room allows for a whole new dynamic and strategy.
After this female detective here: https://youtu.be/ymcNhAgO7Pw I seriously believe nobody could impress me. She was able to find her way to a man who was accused in rape, to confess for murders to women (one of the victims wasn't even reported as missing) and lead them to their bodies. The guy turned to be a serial killer. They were about to find two bodies after they get a search warrant but they would never be able to relate him to the other 3.
In case anyone is interested, I found the reddit on the case. He's still awaiting trial because Florida is trying hard not to screw this one up, and his sister is also in jail for a separate murder, which was caught on film also. Seems like killing on video runs in their family.
@VCGTdunker Nah, getting rid of their remains is the easy part. Just knowing that in one fell swoop you've ended one life and likely ruined your own is enough to make a man panic. That doesn't require anyone to be a psycho, it just requires them to be utterly terrified of what they've done and what might happen now.
@VCGTdunker The thing is, people aren't that rational. If you were to put 100 people into this situation I can basically guarantee you that only a minority of them will call the police. It's an extreme situation that usually invokes a fight or flight response and since the victim is already dead there's noone to fight. It's not like you imagine it. Everyone likes to think that if they get into trouble they are just gonna own up to their mistakes and take whatever punishment awaits them head on but when it actually happens they suddenly try to make excuses and try to get out of that situation. Sure, there are probably people capable of making the rational choice but if the only ones to ever flee the scene were the psychos police work would be hell of a lot easier. Fact of the matter is, the rational choice is the direct opposite of what all of your survival instincts are telling you in that instance and few people can just supress that, especially not the kind of people who lack the self-control to not accidentially kill others in an argument.
@VCGTdunker I'm not arguing about his guilt or innocence, I merely said that I don't think he's a psycho. I think that he was convinced he had commited a murder and that he panicked. I doubt the term "manslaughter" even crossed his mind on that parking space. A genuine sociopath would not experience remorse to this level, neither for the victim nor themselves.
@Darthplagueis13 That's true. The Jodi video seems to indicate that she could be a psychopath both for the lack of remorse she feels and the planning. In this, Rodarte seems to be too panicked to be put into that category.
@VCGTdunker I agree with @Darthplagueis13 you have absolutely no idea how you would react in that situation unless you are actually in that situation for yourself. And also Lee is not a psycho, he showed true remorse for what he had done even if he plead not guilty for it, the video footage of him crying and telling himself he is stupid for what he had done calling himself a piece of shit and apologizing to savannah even after doing what he did shows he has emotions. Psychotic people can not feel those emotions and he would have not apologized for it or cried at all.
Sure people with psychosis are good at acting but not that good. They only know how to react by learning how others react in certain situations. He said his mother was addicted to methamphetamines when he was growing up and so yes he had a dysfunctional family which can lead to problems in the future, And yes he was intelligent enough to know he fucked up because he stated he was going places and he was stupid for not using his brain or just telling her to leave him alone so yes he knew he was wrong for doing it.
People with psychosis don't know that it is wrong they don't know the difference between right and wrong because they lack the emotion to feel bad for others. So before you assume someone is a psycho I think you should actually do your research on what exactly it is first. And I don't give a fuck if you read this or not or whether you get upset and pissy. Educate yourself before assuming.
@VCGTdunker Also by the way it does not matter if the person was rational before murdering someone or not. Once you murder your mind isn't rational at all and you're not going to think of calling 911. What is going through your mind at that time is a bunch of irrational thoughts rushing because you are in a state of panic and you know what you did was wrong but you know if you tell someone then you will go to prison so what seems rational to you at the time is to hide what you did hope it will never be discovered and keep it locked away as a secret from everyone but that is not usually how it ends up.
@VCGTdunker Not knowing is the opposite of an assumption, but hey, I didn’t realize you were a psychologist expert on the effects of stress on the human brain. You’re the one assuming 💀
@VCGTdunker completely disagree, its not an accident, why would you call 911? Self preservation is the next step, the victim's life is over, and your will be over too if you dont dispose of them, I mean cutting someone up is definitely messed up, but trying to cover up one's crime is just natural. Even if he calls 911, he will still makeup a story to save him self.
@Illumibunny Madness just a minor correction, psychopathy is probably what you meant not psychosis. Psychosis is what people with say for example schizophrenia experience, its basically a symptom.
Good looks for sharing this was hella inteesting to just tie into this story. Thank you my thoughts have accepted this and is glad this is now apart of the thought bank
You speak of rational people not committing murders. My daughter's grandmother was murdered 8 years ago by her boyfriend of 10 years. This is a man I never once saw raise his voice, or even get upset. I saw him in a store just two weeks before he killed her, and he was asking me to please come see her. The night before this happened, my daughter spent the night with them. The next day her grandmother's car was found on the highway with the hood up, like something was wrong with the car. He had the mindset to get her car to highway to pretend she went missing from there, when the truth was he had strangled her, shoved her body into a 55 gallon drum and rolled her out into the woods behind her house. Once he finally confessed and was arrested, he bonded out of jail and tried to commit suicide jumping off of a bridge. Unfortunately for him, he survived. Took forever, but he finally got 40 years and is paralyzed from the waist down. We still struggle today with understanding how such a seemingly gentle and sane 55 year old man did this to the woman he claimed to love.
@VCGTdunker The facts of the matter are that 90% of decisions made by people are emotional not logical. When you account for 5% or so that are psychopaths it's less than that for the average person. A stressful situation putting you in an extremely emotional state. Unless you have experienced this a lot in your life you won't have a rational thought. You will be think completely emotionally. The question is what emotion do you choose guilt or fear/selfishness. There is nothing rational about the decision. Most people think of themselves as good people and would feel extreme guilt.
Obviously fish boy isn't that good of a person and let's fear drive him. He killed her cause she feared she would ruin his life. He hid the evidence cause he feared for his life. It's really that simple.
Ok so the police have a hard job. However, those two detective's should have watched the two who handled the Chris watts interrogation. The woman just whines on, and the other one seems like a Muppet. Not very in control and their role playing is laughable
my dad is a lawyer and he has always told me that if i'm ever arrested for any crime, regardless of how minor the offense or whether i'm innocent or not, NEVER. EVER. speak without your lawyer present. hold onto that right to be silent like a lifeboat.
@HillbillyHell the authorities won’t say this, they want people to talk. It’s just good practice to get some legal advice first so you know your rights whether innocent or guilty. I’ve been falsely accused of a crime before and getting that legal advice prior to anything to ensure I was prepared and knowledgeable of the process was just invaluable.
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M A2021-12-20 07:22:00 (edited 2021-12-20 07:22:56 )
@HillbillyHell“I want to speak with my lawyer” when you’re being questioned is what every lawyer will tell you to do.
@genki2genki what about the people falsely accused? I agree - people shouldn’t commit crimes. But there is a video on this channel about people being falsely accused and they have ended up in prison. It is really sad.
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M A2021-12-21 05:06:00 (edited 2021-12-21 05:06:19 )
@genki2genki your ignorance is showing. innocent ppl come in for questioning all the time. Ask for your lawyer no matter what.
This is exactly what you do. There could be a murder on the other side of the country and you never even left your home that week and still you should say nothing if you get called in for an interview.
@genki2genki what’s more fucking nuts is that cops have been able to mentally exhaust someone to the point of confessing to crimes they never actually committed
@Putin's BFF In their mind if they don't cooperate, or lawyer up, it looks more suspicious. To be fair there is some truth to that. If you're a witness to a murder, and in no way guilty, you'd have very little reason to lawyer up when giving police your testimony.
I could go on and on about this case, but basically: have self-control and if someone slaps you, walk away. Men have more strength and bone density than women. Fathers usually tell you don't ever put your hands on a woman and Don't talk to police without a good defence lawyer, even if you are innocent. Also cameras are everywhere.
Not for you. Nothing you say or do can contribute to a plea of innocence, they are there to collect evidence against you, period. Compliance during interview has never, ever, ever been a pertinent factor in determining innocence; in fact it is very illegal to use 'obtaining counsel' against a suspect.
@AtticusDragon But if the "suspect" is pretending to just be a "witness" then it does look weirdly suspicious if they want a lawyer. I think thats the distinction here. Most of these idiots are trying to pretend they had nothing to do with the disappearance/murder of someone, so they act helpful. A truly neutral witness has no reason to protect themselves when aiding an investigation. Thats why they don't lawyer up.
A neutral witness has every reason to lawyer up, that's the point. By your own logic, if most guilty parties avoid counsel to appear innocent, wouldn't an innocent person behave opposite?
The assertion you made that seeking counsel arouses suspicion is moot; suspicion doesn't gather evidence, warrants do. No judge would sign a warrant based on the suspicion caused by a suspect exercising their rights. It is simply not legal to use this against a suspect. One of the Rittenhouse prosecutors tried to lean into this; the judge cleared the room and absolutely lambasted the prosecution.
hj 3876: I beg to differ. It is akin to a shop steward in a union shop. Some things are not said in front of one. A steward is there to protect his co-worker-dues-paying, union members.
If you are stopped -- comply.
"Is this your car, that you are opening with a key and getting into?" Yes.
@Deadsy Padilla: An innocent person should say so. Silence sometimes is not golden. A roll in the hay with a gay in a park in front of the sun's ray -- is minor and should keep this away from his lawyer and family: Naughty: Nasty. Better to be a teef and reap the consequences rather than the shame and disease levied on the ones he loves.
@genki2genki people get arrested and are suspected even when they havent commited a crime. Often times simple wording mistakes in wording and coincidence are all police have to go on and they manage to falsely imprison people for it.
@iBot most people don't care if they got the job done properly, i.e. the guilty party. They're more concerned with getting the job done, a conviction. Police are not on the side of the citizen
@iBot no, even if your intentions are true, the detectives can always twist your words and make you answer a question just to prove you are guilty, that’s what the job entails, to find the suspect. One wrong word and you look bad. But some word of advice, the only words you should speak of if ever interrogated is “I don’t know” and “I’d like to speak to a lawyer”
@HillbillyHell you never know who might see it and it save an innocent persons life. Never speak without an attorney present. Invoke your 5th amendment if in US and also make sure to verbalize wanting an attorney present before speaking w police or answering any questions.
I've never understood why this position exists. Call me unhelpful, but I don't see why anyone, guilty or innocent, ever consents to an interview. Why would having your lawyer present suddenly make it acceptable? I especially don't understand why anyone who is innocent would have a bar of these shenanigans. If I were held on suspicion of a crime, I'd be too angry about the time I'd never get back, to even speak calmly with my lawyer in private.
it's great how when they're "setting up" for the interview, they have the female detective just sitting silently on her phone. zero attempt at interaction at all. kind of a mutt and jeff thing, really, but instead of antagonism it's just pure apathy. since the perp is so social and extroverted (and successful with women) this likely put him immediately on the back foot. to a guy used to getting the attention of pretty women, a pretty woman who's completely ignoring him is probably something he's not used to. just a brilliant setup. so nuanced.
Does he really care, though? She said she has a 21 yr-old daughter. That would make her most likely over 40. Then again, maybe he does think all women want him. But what do I know? I'm not a guy.
@Mary O even if he wouldn’t want to hit on her, being completely alone with her in a tense situation, knowing she’s looking to interrogate you, and her pretending you don’t exist is brutal
@Nathaniel Jacobson I thought that the detective ignoring him would be brutal & though Lee didn’t seem ta care, he is hard ta read. When the detective had ta ask her first question, she wasn’t rude so she could’ve been the good cop (or not). Secondly the narrator said "from what detectives could gather" Lee was popular. In reality, he’s aloof.
I don’t like how the lady detective was dam near crying. Like bro you think he has enough mental stamina to even try and understand where you are coming from. He’s trying to dodge questions. The dude was on his ass. Then she steady bringing up the camera. Man I almost was convinced the camera must wasn’t to good if you keep bringing it up lmao
@Katie Graham - that's why I said, "What do I know? I'm not a guy." Men are visual. Maybe age doesn't matter if women take care of themselves. Maybe each guy is different. I'm attracted to younger men. When I was in my 20's, I found 30-something guys creepy... because of their age alone.
@That Part Her crying would have only increased his anxiety. Even if he didn't have any empathy for her, her daughter or his victim, he was already clearly anxious and having a crying woman in a small room with him would have given them the tactical advantage because it keeps him emotionally overwhelmed.
@Mary O all the guy would want is positive reaction from an attractive woman in power and he would happily think he could sweep her off her feet for a night...whether she has a daughter or not wouldn’t have mattered to him at all!
When I see traffic cops on the road today, they got their cell phone in their hand, and are often looking at it. I wouldn't give the cop to much credit for looking at her cell phone, more likely she's like many other milleniels very little social skills and not good at initiating things without a computer prompt, she could be using the time to establish rapport, and more than likely she just wants the man to take the lead, while she's writing complaints about unequal pay.
@Supreme Hare Do you realize that some people actually use their cellphones as apart of their job? Also, not sure if you are aware, but detectives =/= cops. Totally different set of duties, roles, responsibilities.
Also, what does the generation that someone is from have anything to do wuth the interrogation of the suspect of a violent crime? No bearing on this whatsoever.
Furthermore, you cannot see the woman's age in the limited footage we have of her, so for all you know she could be part of the lost generation, or a boomer like yourself.
In addition to this point-- everything done in an interview room is staged and set like a play. They have a plan of attack when they go in, based on the behavior and profiling of the suspect. Nobody that doesnt need to be there is in that room.
I tend to believe that people who do this for a profession.. Know what their doing when they set up a room like this. These arent cashiers at Kroger's, Karen. These are highly trained professionals.
Why do you feel as though you have such a superior position from your couch to tell this detective she added nothing.
Rapport building is typically used with subjects who hold themselves in high regard, and are seen as upstanding members of the community. It makes them feel more comfortable, which makes the shift from a question to an accusation much more uncomfortable when that time comes. Somebody like himself-- a line chef and lower manager at a corporate resturant-- isnt going to need that.
Silence is often one of the most effective questions.
Since we all know you have a degree in criminal psychology and gender-social constructs-- Thank you for giving us this amazing education 🔥😍🔥. We all appreciate the time you wasted being such a misogonist on YouTube lol
@Sparrow Southwell I think you @'ed the wrong person. I didn't say anything about detectives equalling cops, or her age, or mention her being on her phone. Did you really need to send me an essay?
I think you're over analyzing it. She's a 40+ year old woman and not every guy gets depressed because not every single woman they saw opened her legs for him😂😂
lol what a dumb reach, there is literally 0 indication that it was set up like that just for that purpose and the woman in the interrogation was like 20 years older than him. Stop reaching.
Why do you assume they knew he’s a ladies man? If he is, then why would he care if a lady cop ignores him? Do you assume that every woman he comes across is interested in him? Such a dumb assumption and then there’s people replying like it’s insightful. You people are really simple
@DubsTV again well it's actually about control and power so if he did kill the women he was in a relationship with he feels power over them and don't view them as better than him so relationship is not about if the women detective wants him it's a power play and men who are predator are over confident especially over women they view as weak but the women detective is in more of a powerful role and at that moment the boss calling the shots even if it appears she is just a women and you see his view of the girlfriend he kept saying her faults
@No No He is guessing why she is there just on her phone and makes him nervous so yes there is good reason the detective is doing this so it's not a accident that the detective is on her phone
@MisterUntamed this whole channel is a case study on criminal psychology techniques used to fuck with people's heads. Why don't you think that it's even remotely plausible that she was attempting to play on his charm and ego, appealing to his sense of morality? You dont think that Lee's psychological profile matches that of someone who thinks he could charm his way out of an interrogation?
@KingOsiris Because there is 0 indication or mentioning that this guy is interested in someone 20 years older, let alone in a f**** interrogation room of all the places. Obviously that is the last thing on his mind in that situation. Like use your brain my dude. Just a reach without any substance.
@No No I think you're over thinking this. I don't think that the comment about not giving Lee any attention was of a "cougar vs young man" dynamic. The narrator in the video explained that Lee's profile is that of a young bachelor who is a successful chef and very popular at his job, a ladies man party boy. It's evident that the investigators could deduce from this that he'd likely be an open book who'd talk himself into a hole of half truths. By appearing disinterested, the female investigator was letting her partner lead with open ended questions. Goal being to appeal on his egocentric fabrications, all while making him uneasy about whether the detectives even give a shit about his story. It was definitely intentional.
@MisterUntamed Nah, if in the face of an opposing view, the first angle you take is ad hominem directed at a person's intellect, rather than factually breaking down the argument point by point, it says alot more about your intelligence than mine. Immature kids do that, or adult babies. You don't need me to explain why... You talk of goal posting yet you provide no counter argument beyond "(paraphrase)you're reaching, nothing he or she did communicates that she was silently shutting down advances of a provocative nature". Where as I'm explaining that the core point of the initial comment above is that she was deliberately attempting to shatter his ego based on the psychological profile they constructed around him before entering the room. Based on what the narrator said in the video, there is reason to assume a probability that he's used to being in complete control of conversations with the opposite sex. Even possibly contributing to the aggravating factors surrounding Savannah's killing. Now, try like a grown up to provide a contrary view without resorting to "no thats reaching, u big dum dum". You don't owe that to me or any internet stranger for that matter, but I'd like to think you're well versed and intelligent enough to argue why you think that's a complete reach.
@KingOsiris You wrote an entire book that nobody is ever going to read. What this all boils down to is you goalposting and ignoring the original comment that is nothing but a major reach and a nonsensical statement that has 0 substance or evidence. Even JCS doesn't mention it in the video for a reason. Thats because there is nothing to the placement of the female interrogator, which by the was worse of the two in the interrogation and used emotional breakdown as a tactic. Any smart person in that kind of position would never fall for those cringey tactics or care for that, but obviously criminals aren't the smartest people just like yourself. Also its still hilarious that you think this guy cared about whoever was in front of him just after he murdered someone and the possibility of going to prison became very real now.
@Mary O I got a tip from an older lady because she thought my hair was beautiful. Being attractive to someone still feels nice even if it's a gay guy. Also 40 can still be hot and I'm only 23.
@No No No they do stuff like this on purpose. It makes sense to assume it would make him feel insecure. My friend who's a ladies man is really insecure if a female doesn't fully aknowledge him. The only other ploy would be to get a young, shredded pretty boy detective cause they hate that too.
Yea the only reason they were alone was because he said yes to the water. If he said no they would have went right along with the interrogation. In hindsight he probably wanted the water because of the adderall. I’ve taken my fair share lol
that’s so silly, dude is being interrogated about the girl he legit just murdered and the one thing that’s gonna scare him is the 40-something female detective not paying attention to him cus he’s such a ladies-man, what?
@No No "Why do you assume they knew he’s a ladies man?"
because he's knocking down the door of 30 and banging a hot 20 year old. if you don't think experienced city homicide detectives (not just beat cops, as some here have mistakenly assumed) can read guys like lee as if he were a fucking book, you don't understand the first thing about anything. this was not day 1 of the investigation and they had already interviewed everyone in savannah's life. they knew a lot about lee rodarte, and they had the ability to play off what they knew about him.
"Do you assume that every woman he comes across is interested in him?"
what i assume has nothing to do with it. what's important is that HE assumes that he's able to charm women as he pleases. you might not have the life experience to have been around guys like that. i have. you might not be an astute enough observer to grok the way they move about the world, that uniquely confident power they actually do wield in daily life. charisma is the cheat code to modern life. guys with charisma get a lot of women. they get used to it. the human brain, when it gets used to something, it expects more. was the female detective's apathy towards lee "the key" that cracked the case? no, don't be fucking ridiculous. but was it one AMONG MANY elements in this set-up that together threw him sufficiently off-balance to extract a confession? abso-fucking-lutely.
Better to have the sociopath on the side of the law than the alternative. At least that's the feeling until you are dragged in for a crime you did not commit, and they use the same tactics on you. Oh, that doesn't happen? For every tape released I guarantee there are 10 that they do NOT want to have to release. Using those tactics to break down innocent people is disgusting and painful to watch.
@yeshua sage yep and then they say “he showed his guilt by answering the questions aggressively” just plead the 5th, also the woman almost ruined the case and would’ve if the man was an actual sociopath and didn’t show enough empathy to admit to it
lmao all she did was cry and beg? a child could do better
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@Princeofcups Poc If someone's innocent, they most likely wouldn't get to the point of using such aggressive manipulation tactics. It's rather apparent that they only go this far if they're at least near certain that the person they're questioning is guilty.
@R Nickerson i did watch the whole thing. did you? he ended up confessing because of the amounting evidence against him...... not because of the lady begging and crying for a confession like you people keep saying. so, please tell me the time stamp of the point where the lady begging and crying "worked" ???????? from what i saw, every time the lady begged and cried, the guy said absolutely nothing?
@Fwomp also you/that YouTuber are arguing claims the prosecution and defense deny neither side said he had no fentanyl/ meth in his system, stop making up facts
I disagree. I found her annoying, emotional and over the top "obviously" manipulative. As a 40yr old, who has been around the block. This would be a massive Red Flag for me.
Plus......
NEVER EVER EVER..... Talk to any law enforcement without a lawyer. Under any circumstances. No if's but's or maybe's.
@Brian right. They knew his weaknesses. My guess is the asked around the restaurant and keyed in on what kind of a dude he was and used it against him.
@David - it's got nothing to do with movies. Interrogators don't go into an interrogation without a strategy.... that's literally their job. No one's dumping everyone agrees she's annoying but it worked.
@Patrick Ross no you haven’t seen the one where he showed the woman was innocent being screamed at and accused of killing her husband but in reality he shot himself. She was almost jailed over this over confident cop.
@Princeofcups Poc They’re not sociopaths at all. A lot of these detectives end up retiring after gruesome cases because of how mentally tolling it is on them
@David - Given how he reacted so far ruling out sociopathy seemed a pretty safe bet. And, in any case, how would she have ruined it? Are there tried and true methods to get a sociopath to admit his guilt that don't work anymore once the empathy route has been exhausted?
@Vic Construction FELLAS, Is it manipulative for a woman to plead and appeal to the humanity of a suspected murderer to provide honest information about the whereabouts of a corpse?
Have one for each open and shut case like this. To hell, if this will work on the innocent or framed. They would know better and would just evoke sagacious irritation.
To Yeshua Sage: Have one for each open and shut case like this. To hell, if this will work on the innocent or framed. They would know better and would just evoke sagacious irritation.
Nah she was emotional and shit if she was working by herself she wouldn't have any information from him i think because of her he started to push on him
The horror of hearing his own internal dialogue, he feels only remorse for the fact he was caught. Her life is meaningless to him, he only feels bad for himself.
funknotik I’m not entirely sure about that. He seems surprised, shocked, remorseful, disappointed and angry that a thing like this could happen.
It’s logical that these emotions are directed towards himself, because she died in his hands.
Being sorry for her and being angry to himself are in a way two sides of the same medal. It appears he never planned to kill her but it happened nevertheless, and ever since he must have scrambled to make sense out what happened, rewinding the events in his head and wishing he could change the course of events. In that process, it makes more sense that the emotions are directed towards himself - the person who had the power to change the situation, who could and should have acted differently - and not towards the victim. You even see he briefly directs his anger and disappointment towards her in his rambling (exploring how things could have turned out if she acted differently), but soon corrected himself and redirected his anger and disappointment back towards himself.
Jim seems to interpret this as remorse for admitting, but to me it clearly seems remorse for getting in this situation in the first place. It must be a shock to find yourself in the position of being guilty of manslaughter. He didn’t have a life that gradually led up to this point, it’s an event that is completely alien, probably completely the opposite of anything he ever pictured living, and it’s completely self-inflicted.
@marcolammers I'm not certain he's actually a murderer. Not even certain he's a killer. What I suspect is that he is familiar with the rapport of an abuser and didn't mind playing the part. I suspect that he doesn't mind fighting and will fight girls if they attack him with little regard for how much damage he might do unless he's very certain it will kill them. So, maybe he attacked her and it did so much damage she died. I don't think he meant for her to die, but he obviously didn't want anyone to find out as you can see per his breakdown.
@U P Yeah especially the "Fuck Savannah" part, right? Maybe next time instead of"what you feel like" is happening can be changed to "what you THINK" happened.
@Fred For me, that part when he said 'Fuck Savannah', and it was so aggressive, told me a lot, and I was really surprised Jim didn't pause it there. I genuinely believe that was the turning point, where he realised he needed to watch what he said because he was being recorded, and went a 180 and the rest was a mix of acting and real emotions. That moment showed that rage is deep inside and even killing her didn't release it. "fuck savannah' to 'sorry savannah'. The first was real, the second bullshit. I'm right cos i'm always right about this kind of suff. :-)
Lee cries in despair "I'm going to die in jail!" All these murderers were so cruel to their victims, taking away their lives, yet feel so sorry for themselves going to jail - alive. Narcissists
You noticed that too😏Probably cheers the children being taken at the border!But he can break a womans neck,cause he was trying to make something of himself.Lord help me!
@MissMarvel , thinking the same thing. He digressed in the very next statement, though. They were clearly arguing about stuff and he would likely lose his job. He correctly stated he should have walked away from the convo but he gave into a fit of rage. I believe he really did choke her to death in that car out of rage.
You hear about these player types. He played, she got attached, he rejected her and was rude about it, and she obviously reacted negatively. Most situations, the drama cools down and people move on with their lives. But he would rather resort to violence to keep his job than admit he messed up at work.
This dosn't happen all at one time with one incident, this is a buildup through life with the wrong way of thinking... He would have carried that for a long time and of course whenever he had a problem to solve with someone it could be the solution again....
@fifty years I train in jiu jitsu so I've been choked a lot, and I can confirm that it's a very personal thing. In order to actually kill somebody with strangulation you have to hold on to the choke for 2 minutes to completely kill off the brain. The fact that somebody could do that to somebody for that long is pretty terrifying
i don't mind your sentiment, but it makes me wonder, if killing is so despicable, why do we glorify military? aren't they just a bunch of murderers in uniform, if you think about it.
I dont think he meant to kill her, probably got so upset when she wouldnt retract her claims of their relationship and panicked he would lose his job and went into a fit of rage. It's not super hard to snap someones neck, he could have snapped it then panicked. I dont know though. I'm not defending him but I'm pretty sure most people have been in a situation at least once in their life where they snapped from anger. Although most of us can control that anger and wouldnt strangle someone else.
Am I the only one who feels zero empathy for him? He’s not crying because he killed her, his crying because he got caught. At the end of the day he is selfish man who killed a girl for the sake of keeping a job at a grill.
It makes no sense as to why he would think the best option is to kill someone, and even more absurdly, to keep his job. He killed someone’s daughter for something that could’ve been resolved so easily, it is disgusting. I feel no sympathy for him.
Empathy implies i can put myself in his shoes. Ive never seen a dead person let alone killed someone so i cant empathize with him. Do i have some level of understanding his situation and those kind of thoughts? Sure. Life gets outta hand and thoughts can run wild. To act on those kind of thoughts tho takes a different kind of person
@Darie Gheorghe they already had a relationship outside of work so that wouldn’t make much sense. them having a relationship was breaking the rules so i’m guessing he wanted to stop having that relationship.
He deserves the life sentence. He feels no remorse whatsoever for what he did. I would completely understand if he was just angry about it, most people would, but killing a person is absolutely heinous. I never feel empathy for monsters, and I am the type of person that's incensed when they see a kitten or puppy being treated poorly.
i dunno. i think after getting past the frustration of being caught, releasing that tension of withholding information and having time to think about it and all he was remorseful of killing her, just not as much as he could have been
He is only crying because he got caught, he has zero remorse. you hear him say "fucking Savanna" aggressively which shows he is blaming her for what he did. a few minutes later you hear him say sorry savanna but i think its because he realised the cameras where there. he is evil and I have no empathy for a psycho like that.
I’m surprised no one is entertaining the idea that lee probably didn’t intend to kill savannah in that backseat, but rather reacted to a scuffle that resulted in a bad ending, due to him being way stronger than her and her putting up a good fight. Basically, if there was a physical altercation, initiated by her or not, he should have gotten out of that car. You can snap the human neck like a twig within seconds if the right pressure is applied
@JT she tried to get out of the car 3 times! he knew what he was doing, it wasn't an accident and I don't think it's nice to be victim blaming by saying she might have initiated it! They were talking through the window for 14 minutes and then it seems like he convinced her to get in the back seat and not long after the car was shaking and the door violently opened 3 times. He didn't want people knowing about their affair, it definitely seems like he planned this or already had thoughts of harming her.
You’re not the only one. I feel the need to mention what he did to her body after he killed her. He went to great lengths to hide her body. So let’s say he did kill her bc he felt backed into a corner. Like he thought he was going to loose his job and she egged him on more about it when she was in the car. Well then he kills her and tries to cover it up instead of calling to get her medical attention or calling the police. Let’s not forget he sent text messages to her parents and brother trying to make them believe she had run away with a boyfriend. It’s all so extreme. He might have some remorse when it hit him that this was the most extreme option and the dumbest one. There’s no justifying this solution to his problem. So I think he is mostly upset at realizing how stupid he was to decide to kill her AND try to cover it up. He realizes he has not future anymore and for what ? He realizes it’s not a good enough reason to loose everything. He doesn’t really seem to stop and say things like “I took her life and her future away.” He says things about how he can’t ever wear his chef’s coat again and how he won’t be making anything out of himself. It’s 99% about him and I’ll give him that last 1% for her.and that’s me being generous…
He is crying because his life is over....he felt he was going places and now he is not....he actually had a decent life.....mgr/chef etc.....oh well....
@dawid Drugs? A desire to kill? Unless its in self defense, I cant fathom how murdering someone, burning their body and dumping them is something any sane person can resort to, much less think of.
he is crying because he realized he made a grave mistake which may of only been bc he got caught but he definitely feels some kind of remorse, but it doesn't mean he shouldnt pay for his crimes
I think you mean sympathy, not empathy. Empathy is something one feels being in or putting oneself in the place of another, sympathy is something one feels for another's separate state of being. Unless you think everyone else had killed someone or imagines having done so. Also, I don't think anyone feels anything but disgust for him.
Ultimately the detectives were able to reach his good nature and he confessed. Psychopaths and Sociopaths don't ever confess - they will go on endlessly with their lies no matter how much evidence is against them. Lee Rodarte obviously felt remorse in this video, not just for actually confessing and realizing that his life is more or less ruined, but also for killing her. But with that said, I was disappointed that he ultimately plead not-guilty and tried to come up with a BS self-defense narrative. I am a strong believer in life for life justice, if you take a life without a justifiable cause you forfeit your own. But I also believe that surviving victims should have some say as to the punishment - it shouldn't be solely up to a judge or jury. Some murders are reprehensible: showing no remorse for their crimes, lying and deceiving others until they die naturally in their cell. Others own up to their mistakes, express true remorse, plead guilty, and take responsibility for their actions. If the surviving victims can show forbearance and mercy to this kind of person and support a non-death sentence, or even support a fairly light prison sentence, I think that should be allowed.
@JT You’re really victim blaming when this dude is probably half her size? There is no way she could’ve put up a fight for him to accidentally kill her. Besides the video tape shows a struggle where the door swings 3 times, whether or not she initiated it things ended up wrong on his end and he went too far. It’s really disgusting how you could go as far as to say the victim in this situation would do something like that.
I have empathy for him.. I even cried when I saw him react the way he did afterwards. You guys are looking way too much from the eyes of law and society morals than actual human suffering in my opinion.
It reminds me of the story about the angry man spitting in Buddhas face.
@Riann You can clearly see that he regrets everything. Murderer, not a murderer, guilty, not guilty, evil, or not evil. These are just words, claims, kind of prefabricated ideas of how to feel about a person, but his remorse is real. He seems like a fellow man that has happened to follow his insticts in the wrong situations. That's what I see, and thats why I cried.
I don't feel sympathy for him either but I do think he's crying because he feels guilty. When the detectives leave, he does cry out and apologize to Savannah. So, as others have mentioned, I think it's both, he's remorseful and does not want to go to jail.
@WittyUsernamehere To me he’s crying because he got caught and doesn’t want to spend the rest of his life in jail. Nobody would want that and godammit I would cry too but that still doesn’t help his case. This dude has absolutely 0 remorse for Savannah cause if he did he would’ve confessed and not have lied. He also said he was not guilty and continued to lie and say it was self defense. So yeah no he has absolutely 0 sympathy from me.
@Riann I wish I understood why you replied to me even though we're pretty much on the same page but that's okay, you can do that if you want.
To me he’s crying because he got caught and doesn’t want to spend the rest of his life in jail.
Yes, I would agree. If you re-read my comment, I did say that.
Nobody would want that and godammit I would cry too but that still doesn’t help his case.
Whether it helps his case or not is irrelevant. He's in jail for 40 years and that's all there is to it.
This dude has absolutely 0 remorse for Savannah cause if he did he would’ve confessed and not have lied.
I disagree. He does apologize to Savannah at the end indicating that he does feel some remorse for it. Also, the prospect of ending up in jail probably isn't thrilling him (nor would it me or you, as you mentioned before) and so therefore is trying to come up with stories, rationalizations and justifications so that he does not end up in jail. In the past, have you ever been caught doing something that you shouldn't have? If so, was your immediate reflex to confess to it right then and there or did you try to feign innocence? When faced with the prospect of life in jail, wouldn't you try to get out of that if possible?
He also said he was not guilty and continued to lie and say it was self defense.
It would not be the first time such a scenario occured in a similar situation. He's not a good guy and he killed someone. I think it's rather naive of anyone to expect he'd suddenly become a model citizen and be honest with himself and everyone around.
So yeah no he has absolutely 0 sympathy from me.
Once again, I don't know why you're wasting your time telling me this, I 100% agree with you on that one.
I don't think it was just the grill, Chelsea little evil witch had a lot more to do with this crap. She went to his house that evening and after he confessed n was alone he said " fng Chelsea fng Chelsea
@Eternal Reign I don't. I have a disability the limits my inhibition. Especially in anxious situations like an interrogation. So I would go into weird details like the fact I have to get extra wide shoes now since most shoe companies are making their shoes more and more narrow as the years go on
bulldoggamer my daughter does that by the time she gets to the point I’ve lost interest I’m working on being more accepting of this but sometimes it’s hard
Speaking of being found guilty and whatnot - if you ever find yourself in a situation and they want you to take a lie detector test, DONT DO IT!!! There was this insane guy some yrs back who would NOT leave me alone, and even though I told him I had zero interest in him, he claimed I was cheating on him when I wd hang out w/ other ppl, etc etc (even though we weren't together, he claimed that since he liked me, I was more or less automatically his).. anyway, I made a deal w him. I wd take a lie detector test and when it came out that I was being truthful abt everything (there were a lot of CRAZY accusations), he wd HV to go away and never speak to me again. He agreed. The old man who gave me the test was asking me questions abt whether or not I'd been with other guys, and I had been with one (my ex-bf who I wanted back) but since I wasn't dating anyone, it wasn't cheating. You can't give details though, you can only say yes or no. No matter what, "yes" or "no". And he asked me all these questions abt sex, which I am timid speaking abt w/ strangers (especially old man) so I was really nervous and uncomfortable (it didn't help that I was hooked up w/ a bunch of wires all over me). Anyway, results came back that I was lying, when I was 100% honest!! I will NEVER trust a lie detector test again, and I recommend none of you do either! If you're uncomfortable, nervous, embarrassed, anything like that, your heart rate increases and you'll get false results! They do NOT detect lies! I watched an episode of 'Adam Ruins Everything" on lie detector tests that explains why they shdnt be trusted far better than I cd!!! Highly recommend the episode, I highly do NOT recommend lie detector tests, lol!
@Anders Anderson well let's say my alibi was that I went over to my friend Mike's house. I would probably go into details about who mike is, how we met, what he does for a living, a funny story about us.
Me too. In highschool English class we were told to start a short story. Most kids put down 3 or 4 sentences. I had half a page because I described everything in vivid detail. My teacher actually pulled me aside and told me I needed to learn to get to the point, that she requested a short story not a novel. I stopped going to class the next day lmao. I was so butthurt.
I do the same shit. I just want to set the record so much straight that I eventually end up explaining string theory when asked what's the weather outside. I'd be sent to jail after five minutes of being innocent.
That self defense argument is hindered if you also hid the body and lied to the police afterwards. The number of injuries on her body will also be inconsistent with his account of simply defending himself by accidently popping her neck. Prosecutors will argue that this goes against the medical evidence as well as the camera footage which will show a struggle with the car door opening 3 times. The fact that he got out, slashed her tires then texted the family also damns his case. Prosecutors will have a field day with this one.
Yeah, I doubt he'll get out of this, but depending on what he said in the confession, the defense could potentially try to "explain" hiding/burning the body and lying, with being scared about losing his job, having/using/selling drugs and depression making him irrational. I'm not too sure how well they got to understand her injuries, since she was 75% burned, but no bones were broken. Anyhow, his depression+her trying to get him fired (according to him)+her being on drugs (paranoid) and attacking him relentlessly+him losing his temper could be used. The door opening could be explained with a number of things, like him opening it and her refusing to leave. Slashing the tire could be used as a "heat of the moment" -thing for "ruining his life". And the texts seem to have been written in panic, arguing against premeditation, unless of course he's just dyslexic, or an education denialist.
Thought the same, couldn't have said it better myself. The first thing that came to mind when the video concluded was "wow this guy is just a complete piece of garbage and that was the worst, most fabricated defense I've ever heard."
if you did kill someone by accident you'd go from the heat of the moment to pure shock and panic. you''d try to fix the situation as fast as possible. You'd be calling an ambulance as fast as possible. The amount of Adrenaline going through your body and the sudden shock and fear for losing that/a person will override your senses and your mind wouldn't be thinking about 'am i going to get the blame for this' its not important to you at that time. the person who's life is ebbing away in front of you is...
Baychimo I think your argument is hindered by the fact he stole her phone and used it to text her father and brother. The fact he tried to gaslight the family into believing she ran away proves (IMO) that he was of sound mind. The texts were somewhat coherent and I can’t imagine another motive than to appease the family while her body is burned/scattered.
Absolute field day.
Edit: Millions of people deal with depression and sudden unemployment all the time without murdering and attempting to cremate a coworker.
Sadly the defense attorneys have to have some argument for their client; i have a feeling the penalty for pleading guilty would have been steeper than fighting the non guilty plea, and they had to fabricate this argument based on that.
Its part of the show, and no one buys it but the client will likely get about 80 years in prison for the argument versus 100.
@Herpa Derpa i'm talking about someone dear to you, you'd do anything to save a loved one or a great friend wouldn't you? and i'm talking about an actual accident so for example due to a bit of a struggle he/she slipped or hit his/her head. and i'm not, i'm just stating what a normal emotional response would be. did i say ''If it happened to me' no. Everyone is different comparing myself would be useless. stating what would be an expected emotional response is not.
@Giocommentary lol i would yes.... but there are plenty of stories where people do leave what you would think they consider a loved one. A somewhat recent story that comes to my mind is the 4wheeler crash in Nebraska, where a guy left his girlfriend dead in a ditch after a crash and just drove home... drunk or not still fucked up
@KingofHearts I'm just speculating, not trying to make solid arguments. The texts seem to show that he tried to cover up the deed, but that doesn't mean he was "all there". The fact that he thought sending the texts, which sounded and looked like a 5 year old had written them, could be used to show that he was in a panic or even a bit slow. There are levels of depression and they affect people differently. "Mild" and "severe" are two different animals, and the latter can make an otherwise rational person do and say some dark things. You insert drugs/alchohol into the mix (and maybe spin that to be related to childhood abuse etc) and someone threatening to take away one's income (as he claimed she did), and you got a bomb. Like I said, I absolutely don't think he will walk, but there are a lot of things that they could try to use, in order to get less years.
@Mellow Yello Normally, pleading guilty would result in a reduced sentence, and defense could argue for mitigation in order to try to get their client a lower sentence, but Im pretty sure that the only options here are either plead self defense or plead manslaughter, cus aint no way in hell you can get mitigation if its murder. You are sentenced for life. I guess theyre going for broke with the hopes of a full acquittal, which is only afforded to self defense. But it wont work. Self defense is based on use of reasonable force, and the evidence demolishes that as its clear hes lying. Too many injuries, too long a struggle, too much difference between strength of the parties involved. No one will buy it. Shouldve tried for manslaughter, arguing that there had not been any malice aforethought in the scruffle or perhaps some sort of diminished responsibility due to drug use or something. Although my analysis is purely based on UK law and my local law which is based off of UK and french law. I dont know jack shit about US or Canadian laws
@D3ath Raz0r it also goes without saying that i (nor yourself) do not have access to whatever the attorneys are saying, to whatever the judge is allowing, to what the stipulations are by the prosecutor, etc.
Imagine literally ending someone’s life and then crying for yourself and how YOUR life won’t go anywhere now.....I have less than zero sympathy for this dude
It was a smeagol and gollum moment. He hated himself for what he had done and regretted it, but with no chance for redemption the idea of being a good person, a normal chef or anything at all was gone.
There’s a chance he really did make her neck go pop during a heated argument. This is why people shouldn’t lay hands on one another, especially if there’s a nearly 100 lb weight difference
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S Makan2020-11-23 22:58:41 (edited 2020-11-23 23:06:54 )
Well he also shed some tears for her saying “I’m so sorry Savannah” Beside, in such a situation we all would be first concerned about our own life... that’s ingrained in our nature.
Sarah No wow it’s almost as if even murderers have emotions too... no one is apologising for his murder or saying what he did is ok but you can recognise he does exhibit emotions lmao
@Brianna Waldorf yeah obviously.......I was saying it’s gross how he can cry for himself but not for the life he stole, nobody is shocked he has emotions
@Brianna Waldorf THANK you. They're shitty people, but they're people nonetheless. Murder has been a pretty common activity for the entirety of our species' existence, and all of a sudden if you murder someone, you aren't a human at all.
@Sarah No It's not about being an apologist, it's about acknowledging that this is a natural part of the behavior of our species. WHY do you think it's an everyday thing?? You think every other person is a piece of shit mistake, that the universe had a bad day when it made him? Or maybe his mentality, environmental factors, and the most toxic culture in existence played a part in this? Maybe she was a victim but in another light so is he? The world isn't black and white. There aren't just "Good People" and "Apologists".
Less than zero? 1 percent, sure, maybe even 0, but plenty of people have done worse than him and shown no remorse at all of any kind. At least he realized that he was wrong somehow. There are other videos on this channel of murderers and would be murderers who actually seem to believe that they were justified in every way.
@Sarah and showed some type of regret for at least part of the situation, unlike others featured on this very channel. Why are you lumping him in with people who truly don't understand that they did something wrong, even if the regret is for selfish reasons? Again, 0 or 1 percent sympathy, sure. But there are murderers out there that show no emotion at all throughout the entire process and you seem to be acting as if these people don't exist. There is a scale of horrifically horrible people and this guy is pretty horrifically horrible, but you seem to be saying he's the worst possible, and this very channel pretty much disproves that. What about the guy featured on this channel who murdered his pregnant wife and kids because he had an affair? You seem like you're willing to view that guy and this guy equally, but the guy who killed his kids and wife showed much less regret and took more lives...
@awesomeferret What you’re not understanding is that someone who takes another person’s life away doesn’t deserve even 1 percent of sympathy (unless they needed to defend themselves or something like that) and honestly it’s weird that you care so much that I don’t have a tiny bit of sympathy for a man who killed someone who certainly didn’t deserve to die
@Sarah well, we can agree to disagree. I care enough about human life that I think body counts matter. I'm actually confused about how you think killing multiple kids and a pregnant wife is not worse than killing one person. They are both horrible, and they both deserve life in prison. But to compare the two as exact equals? If enough people shared your opinion, don't you think it would help to desensitize people to murder? And if you think I "care so much" (he's a cold blooded killer after all and got what he deserved) then you've misread me, I really don't care very much at all, I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from on this.
@awesomeferret When did I EVER say anything about someone killing their pregnant wife and kids?? I never said anything about the number of people someone kills, you just assumed I think that? Obviously killing multiple people is even worse but if someone kills even one innocent person, they don’t deserve sympathy
@Sarah then why are you heavily implying otherwise? I never said that you said anything about the wife and kids(???), I brought that up as an example of how your comments may be making you seem like you think that someone murdering more people is not any worse. Glad to see that you apparently don't stand by that. I suggest rewarding some of your comments because it sure looked like you did think that, hence my questions.
@awesomeferret “I never said you said anything about the wife and kids” In an earlier comment you LITERALLY SAID “I’m actually confused about how you think killing multiple kids and a pregnant wife is not worse than killing one person” Also, I did go back and read my comments and I never implied anything about the number of people murdered being more or less severe. Literally all I said was that people who murder don’t deserve sympathy. This is the strangest interaction I think I’ve ever had in the comments of a video lmao
@Sarah I'm very very curious: do you think this woman deserves negative zero sympathy too? Her parents heavily abused her, after all. And for clarification, when I pointed out that I never said that you said anything about the wife and kids, this was true. You were IMPLYING opinions about the wife and kids. That was my entire point, you don't seem to realize the alternative ways that your comments here can IMPLY things that you may not intend and didn't actually say (I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened to me with my comments too). I admit, I erred and should have said "I'm confused about how you APPEAR to think" not, "I'm confused about what you think". My apologies if I made this unneccecarily confusing. https://youtu.be/UQt46gvYO40
@awesomeferret I do sympathize with her a little bit more because she was brought up by very cold and unloving parents and she was controlled and emotionally abused. That being said, lots of people grow up in homes like that and they don’t murder their parents, they grow up and get themselves out of that situation. The girl from that video was told by her parents she could either be cut off or stay under their control, so it’s not like she thought murder was the only way to escape her abuse (like in the case of Gypsy Rose). But yeah, those kinds of cases in my opinion deserve a little more sympathy. This guy’s situation wasn’t even close to that though
@Sarah that was my entire point all along. My apologies that it took me so long to explain it properly. I see we do not disagree after all (not that it would be a bad thing if we did).
@Sarah So it isn't the act of murder that's bad because under the right circumstances it's good? That's what you're saying, right? so it's not the action, but the intent, or maybe the circumstances? We are of the most violent of mammals, our evolutionary tree murders for breakfast. Or fun. Or food. Or territory. Or the right to mate. Or boredom. Killing isn't unnatural or exclusive to monsters, it's in your DNA just like his. Literally everything, every organism murders. Our country doesn't care about justice, it's the illusion of justice, by means of revenge. And it doesn't hurt that the prison system is basically entirely an industry that is privatized and for-profit. Hell, every life sentence, for a natural action, or even a mistake, is a human being sold into slavery for life. That's what it is. And it depends on people like you, thinking the way you do. I'm not trying to make you feel bad or single you out, cause it's most people that agree with you. I just want awareness brought to this subject because it's a lot worse than a one-off killer here and there.
@dslkjvoxicuyhgl I agree that the prison system needs a lot of reform, other than that you’re not going to convince me that murdering people is fine lol. In most cases there’s no excuse for taking someone’s life, it’s an incredibly selfish act. It’s not our right as human beings to make the decision to do that. Obviously the world isn’t black and white and not EVERY murder case is the same, but in THIS guy’s case he had zero reason to resort to killing that girl. He could have done a million things before resorting to that, it’s selfish and I don’t have sympathy for him. All along that’s all I was saying but people seemed to think I meant every single murder instance ever should be seen exactly the same as this guy’s. I’m obviously able to acknowledge nuances but I’m still never going to agree that the act of murder is overall fine and normal, or that he deserves sympathy for doing something like that. I’d rather save my sympathy for the girl whose life was ended by someone who had no right to take it away, and for her poor family. Human beings aren’t mindless creatures that act on instinct and don’t know right from wrong. In THIS instance, that guy knew full well that he didn’t have to kill her and that it was wrong, and if he never got caught I truly don’t think he’d be crying. That’s why he was able to stay calm and cool while lying to police about what happened. He’s crying for himself and I don’t find that worthy of sympathy
The part where he whines to himself, "You were supposed to make something of your life, Lee!" Well, y'know, not killing Savannah would have been a wise choice. I managed to make it through life without killing anyone. It's pretty easy not to kill.
Well clearly you have an easier life than many. Not saying I've ever killed anyone but won't say I never will either. Anything could happen at any given moment. I myself aim to live my life without ever killing anyone, but won't hesitate if it ever comes down to that... mostly referring to protecting/in the worst case scenario avenging a close person of mine. Particularly any future children I hope to one day have!
@GOOGOL A predictable response. I'm not sure how much value there is in detailing my position to you. Suffice it to say that this man was born with different innate qualities to your own and was also raised differently. "It's pretty easy not to kill." No, not for everyone. What is the point of asserting your superiority?
@Christopher Atkins im guessing your a narcissistic person? You sound like you were raised to believe that your actions can be forgiven depending on your background and how you are raised.. Also im assuming you were in this position before? Maybe you need help?
@Christopher Atkins also if you feel threatened thats your own problem. Im only curious why you took the side of this arguement that you did. I can tell your smart so tell me more.
@GOOGOL No. There is a margin between forgiveness and understanding. I understand his actions, or at least try to, but I don't believe he should be forgiven.
On every one of these videos there is inevitably a very popular comment expressing some form of truism: "Well, he could have just not," or, "I would never..." Good for you. Consider yourself lucky not to have been born a person with the potential to do this.
@GOOGOL Most people appear to operate under the premise that the mind is a blank slate, and that the individual is the sole agent of their own life: what they do, and what they become. While I think this philosophy is helpful when applied to the self, it breaks down when analyzing the other. It's almost as though some people believe that if they were that criminal, they would not have committed the crime because they would have chosen differently. This makes no sense, and the shallow judgments made on this premise infuriate me.
Honestly even if his bullshit story was true I still don’t think it would be fair to give him the same treatment this example of humanity at it’s lowest deserves humanity it it’s lowest
why arrent you uploading annymore? really ''enjoy'' your content, the annalysis are verry intresting and make you the best in these sorts of contend. to bad i have seen all your vids already....
@Joseph Cooper Yes, and with so many stories of the innocent getting railroaded, it should not reflect a sign of guilt. The interrogators are after the best use of their time, and no time to consider innocence. Learned my lessons from these interrogations - you can get nabbed in confusion even though an innocent bystander.
guilty people a lot of times don't want to appear guilty, and they think getting an attorney is going to make them look bad. some people think they can talk their way out of anything.
Jack Wright People are guilty as soon as they are charged, not after Kangaroo court. Dispense with the court procedure and save taxpayers money. There maybe one out of millions of people that are truly innocent But most are guilty. Worth it taking the chance.
At the end, he is not remorseful for killing her. Only for himself, that he is going to prison and messed his life up. Normal people don't kill others to save their job as a cook.
I think some part of him really felt bad. In those moments when he's freaking out he apologizes to her. That's real emotion. Not saying he's not a piece of shit.
Fairly simple to just not fraternize with each other. I realize it’s easy to do, but if you’re that worried about losing your job, follow the rules 🤷🏻♀️
@Meagan Koenning Nah. He knows he is being filmed and wants to appear innocent and remorseful.
He is currently appealing on stand your ground laws, trying to trash her memory by saying she was on drugs and attacked him first. Autospy report indicates no drugs found in her system.
he wants the job bad, that's why he kill someone. He need a pay rise for being dedicated. If someone in shit job kills someone to keep it they are good employee.
Yeah he was lamenting his life and career and what he had done to ruin it. The things that effect him, not what he did to her. He also burned her corpse and disposed of it like nothing...
@Jess Pavlichenko nah dude, he does not think that fair ahead. The way he handeld his killing and the aftermath proves as much. He's no criminal mastermind. Just a killer dumbo who regrets his life.
Well duhh, anybody who is facing prison time is going to feel sorry for themselves. Savanah is dead. But he still has to live and suffer the consequences.
@AF budte have you ever thought about going to prison for doing something terrible? I'd most certainly be shitting myself over the consequences more than anything. Can't really expect a guy who's capabable of strangling a woman to death to be particularly focused on remorse.
I'm sure plenty of people get away with murder, rape, theft, lies, and cheating and still manage to go to sleep at night.
@Ej Ub You miss the point. His 'oh my god - what have I done' is not the remorse of someone who realises he has has done a terrible thing to another human being. He cries only for himself, like an unempathic psychopath. He has no awareness of what he has done to another person.
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Ej Ub2020-10-10 00:30:38 (edited 2020-10-10 00:31:02 )
That's what I'm getting at.. You might call it psychopathic, but I think anybody caught and punished for a crime is going to feel worse for themselves than the victim.
If I were out shoplifting, and I got caught and pulled into a room, I would be more upset about getting caught than the fact that I am a shoplifter.
People who commit crimes want to get away with it. Nobody wants to get caught.
The rare few who do have a moral crisis over their actions are the ones that go turn themselves in at the police station. But most people would not.
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AF budte2020-10-10 01:33:12 (edited 2020-10-10 01:33:55 )
@Ej Ub You said if you were out shoplifting and got caught you would be more upset about getting caught than the fact you were a shoplifter. Not really comparable.
Ask yourself how you would feel if you wound up in a police station because you had dragged a young girl into your car, killed her, burned her body just to save your crappy cook's job? Most people couldn't really speculate on that realistically because they would choose to lose their job, home, marriage etc. than take an innocent life.
@MS W tell that to your biological instincts that have evolved over the last million years or so :) probably most murders are caused because we reproduce sexually. more than any other reaosn lol
DeuceGenius If you are that dedicated to your job, a normal person would follow the rules of employment, and certainly not murder someone because you didn’t want to get caught. Your argument is not based in logic.
@Jess Pavlichenko That defense is kind of funny. So he defended himself... But then what? He burned the body and threw it in a river. I'm not an American, but I do believe that if you killed someone out of self-defense, you're still obligated to report it, yes?
I think you missed the part when he apologizes to savannah...that was sincere. No one asked him to apologize and he already knew he was going to prison, a glimmer of morality came out and then he caught himself being soft and thought to himself “they gonna kill you in there” so he “toughened” up
Personally, I hate when interrogators act like this, like when they start asking the same question over and over again like the suspect is gonna answer, and then start crying and insulting the suspect like that’s gonna help. Idk that’s just me. Why not provide the goddamn evidence? You wanna end this fast, right? PROVIDE. THE. EVIDENCE. STOP ASKING THE SAME QUESTION.
Oh he's angry at her and angry at himself for telling the truth wow and all this because he could have lost his job he could have got a job somewhere else over a job. There has to be more to it.
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Whoah ho hooooo! Lee was boning the 21 y/o blonde at least ten years his junior. Why would he undermine that fantastic accomplishment by kidnapping her?
The strange text bits are so terrifying for me, as someone who texts everyone constantly. I’ve grown so accustomed to my family and friends’ text styles that if it’s even slightly off, I’m already panicking and trying to call as I’m running out the door.
It would have been better if he didn’t text them, Savanna’s parents wouldn’t have called their work and only would be tipped off after whenever she usually got back home.
That’s how my mom is with me. She would call me and say I didn’t call her mummy I called her mum and I hardly ever call her that and it worried her lol. She’s mom paranoid x 50
If I was there. Detective: "How long have you known [insert name]" Me: "few years" Detective: " How many?" Me: "Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh A few. She always knew how many years. Anyway *starts babbling bout something dumb*" Detective: "I- Guilty." Me: "An- Excuse me? This is normal for me."
@Tombstone What does that have to do with me putting a dumb reply? Plus if your commenting on my channel banner and icon. I have to change it. And so what if I like Gacha. You really didn't have to comment it. Also thanks for the fuckin comment :>
That’s debatable. Sometimes people make huge mistakes like this, they could actually be sorry for the crime they committed lol. Most people, even criminals, aren’t heartless. The reason they don’t outright confess is because every human has self preservation as their top priority
I was just thinking the same thing. I still feel guilty over a small turtle I forgot out in the sun when I was like 8. I guess that is why they are in there and the rest of us are out here.
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Emma Philo2020-09-15 10:31:11 (edited 2020-09-15 10:53:47 )
@Raul Hernandez not heartless but I think most killers lack empathy for the victim so would not cry on them but on being caught, being seen as a bad person etc... In what we see in the footage he mainly blames himself for putting himself in a bad situation and for being stupid. Not for that poor girl he killed...
@Raul Hernandez They wouldn't do it if they were sorry. He would have been fine if he'd never been caught or questioned - you think he was planning on immediately turning himself in? THAT would be sorry. Being caught and forced into a confession is not being sorry.
Dee Collins same here, I put my small turtle in water but I didn’t know it was sick and couldn’t swim well, it died afterwards. I will never forget that
Why do people still talk to police without a lawyer. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad this POS confessed and will be punished. But had he kept quiet he probably could have avoided dying in jail. (again, glad he didn't ask for one and just confessed)
Don't express ur anger instantly. Swallow it. Do boxing kicking or shout in pillow. U deal with that person atleast after 2 days when sense is with u. Practice will make it easier. Don't ruin ur precious life in stupid rage
@Dominik Baumgartner I think at the time the statement was said, the current known physics coudn't explain aerodynamics at such a small scale. The tiny humble-bee wings interact different with air than for example an airplane wings.
Who made this woman a detective she's irritated and she's begging and pleading and doing all this weird s*** nowhere in her investigation did she use any tide think she's sitting there crying talking about If This Were my child get this lady out of here
@Zac R. thank you! I’ve been checking this channel every couple of days since The last upload and was worried he’d stopped posting! So addicted to his videos
I wouldn't mind if he changed his upload schedule and actually released more of these gems, although I'm more than happy with quality over quantity so if that's the case here then yes never change.
Last she said to me was “oh Romeo oh Romeo, where art thou fair Romeo?” I then explained the situation again. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. I’m now just saying sentences I’m sure I heard in movies... too stupid to tell if it’s working or not... I’ll continue. Lol
Guy detective is being an asss to his partner . She had more control than him in the situation cuz obviously a guy feels more comfortable with a girl but the guy DT keeps budging in and doesn't let her work . Cmon man let her do her thing .
Lets say I was being questioned and I knew I was innocent I would still be stressed and shitting myself as I dont trust law enforcement to ever do a good job.
After this time, I kinda like how the algorithm brings us all together again. I usually never watch videos like that but I must say that these are made really well and are giving some interesting insights in many cases.
@Suschi You're very welcome. I also can recommend Dr. Todd Grande - he is a PhD who uploads analysis of crime cases, breaks down the character of the perpetrator & the circumstances. Just in case you get out of material to watch (;
Anyone See 29:50 . The female detective feels like she's getting somewhere and the male detective starts to speak in the brief moment of silence after her plea for this shit bag to confess. So she gently puts her foot on his leg to tell him that she's gonna try, and wants some space for silence. Pretty cool, they must work together a lot.
@Ryan Cameron if he assaulted her he would have to worry about assault charges. Discreetly tapping someone’s leg to try to tell them something is not assault regardless of gender. Stop trivializing assault and harassment.
@Ryan Cameron What makes you think theyre not calm?
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Ryan Cameron2021-09-19 08:07:11 (edited 2021-09-19 08:08:25 )
@You're the reason he's crying and you have thing skin too..ha relax bro or lady bro I don't know you , uou you don't know me..don't tag me..peace. thin skin..super sensitive..relax.. chill...take a deep breath.
Peace and love , im not arguing with some wino random with nothing better to do. Get a job and contribute to society. If words affect you that much. Don't read.
@Ryan Cameron I'm not thin skinned nor am i angry at your comment. I'm perfectly calm. You on the other hand are turning a blind eye to someone pointing out that you made a dumb statement. Instead of having an open mind and accepting that you may have said something not so good, you deflect and ignore and quite frankly, become a little too defensive. I can tag whoever i want, this is the internet. Cheers, have a good life. Hope no one trivializes bad things that YOU go through.
@You're the reason he's crying Wait, haven't you heard? Calling out a bad joke for being bad is equivalent to being a quivering baby on the floor, and instantly means you are fuming mad and have thin skin! There's literally no gaps at all! He gets to tell you to calm down because, if something is a joke, it magically means it is completely invincible to criticism and any critiques can only come from deranged psychos! Pretty nifty trick huh?
@Blueberry Blues Wow! How did i not know about that? It's like his "joke" was just dumb, unfunny and simply untrue! But nahh, I'm just a a fuming snowflake!
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Pierre Alexander2021-09-23 07:27:24 (edited 2021-09-23 07:28:36 )
@Ryan Cameron lol bro im high too reading shit. Now while I don't think your comment was very funny, I don't think it was serious either. Things can be easily misinterpreted here and there are plenty of folk who are quick to react to anything that seems offensive. This doesn't always mean their offence is unjustified so you should be careful when talking of topics that are serious as this. Do agree everyone should chill out and maybe spark a lil smth though ;)
@Love Is The Drug Beca he told her to get a job and contribute to society and she's assuming his wage to be average and hers is probably way above average so a reasonable assumption
@Ryan Cameron What you said is obviously sarcasm, but does have some basis in reality. A boy in England touched a girl's arm, and I believe he actually got convicted of sexual assault. You're able to make fun of the ridiculous warping of the definition for sexual assault without diminishing the magnitude of actual harassment. I don't know why your comment attracted so many deranged replies. I feel that they don't actually believe what they're saying, they just like pretending to be outraged.
@Ryan Cameron You wouldn’t be joking about that so flippantly if you had a decent understanding of the issue, and you can’t blame ppl for finding your ignorance offensive when you just laugh it off instead of being adult enough to take accountability
@Stephen Grigg you are funny. I am responding here and there to the funny people who tag my name. And it doesn't really concern me how I " come off" on a YouTube video comment section to people I've never nor will ever encounter. Figure it out bud.
The female detective is pissing me off with her "women are weak and weepy" approach. She can take the good cop angle without acting like she's on the verge of tears smh
it would suck to lose your job over it but goddamn, going to prison the rest of your life over it? this is why it fascinates me to see people throw their lives away over stupid shit like this. like, seriously? you thought your life was over just because you were gonna lose your job at a stupid restaurant?
@nate void Yeah totally true, have you seen that Jodi video? Hell it made me realize I dated a woman who was nearly an identical copy of Jodi and to be quite frank I have come to understand that I was in danger after I dumped that lunatic, luckily I did not end up like that poor guy Travis but it makes you wonder how your life can end at a whim notice, even if it is a petite lady who could pull a knife and a gun on you, sick stuff really.
It's all relative. what difference does it make if it wasnt a 6 figure job? It was relatively good for that guy and that girl was threatening to take it all away just because of a bad break up. People have killed for less.
@mtscountrytime86 I personally find that a pretty messed up way to look at it. You only care about your life, and the only reason you're even against it is because you're assuming you'll be caught...How about taking someones actual life over losing your job at a stupid restaurant? Jesus. The only reason you don't murder people is because you'll go to jail, huh? Wow.
manager at a restaurant can be making good money. I am a simple technician with just 1.5 years of experience but making a 6 figure salary. If someone out of vile decided to end my income, I think I would justify myself in killing them in a terrible way.
pretty sure most humans would feel the same way. Most humans would fantasize about killing someone who did them this wrong. Stop pretending like ya arent humans. The difference between this guy and us is that he actually did it, while we merely fantasized about it
@Artyom Arty get some help. Find a therapist, and actually open up to them. I've never even considered such a thing, for so petty a reason. If you're not trolling, you need to talk to someone. Get it out, no one will judge you. If you act on that stuff, you'll certainly be judged.
Not excusing the crime at all, the service industry is a tough place to be employed in. Long hours and grueling schedules really warps the minds of the people who work there, and the threat of having that taken away from you would likely make more than a few people go nutty. Not everyone has the skills to transfer to doing something else, and if you come from a shitty upbringing, what little you have means the world.
Man, two brothers here started a knife fight and one died over 2000COP, around 55 CENTS. One stabbed the other in the heart, soon after in the head and then collapsed and kicked the bucket. People can be dumb and impulsive
@mtscountrytime86 pride, a fragile ego, being stupid and impulsive, anger(that is blinding), maybe drugs damaging the brain over time. I personally have lost control and behaved in ways completely opposed to my rather calm and passive personality which resulted more than once in almost physical fights with my now ex and me screaming and growling in a completely different voice and then regret that a couple hours later and feel like shit. Other people have even less inhibitions and much less control when wronged
@FMarteen it was accidental watch the end. he meant to self defense when savannah started slapping him, he later realised he accidentally killed a person.
@junior Saenz it was accidental watch the end. he meant to self defense when savannah started slapping him, he later realised he accidentally killed a person
@mtscountrytime86 it was accidental watch the end. he meant to self defense when savannah started slapping him, he later realised he accidentally killed a person
@Becoming an Entrepreneur I was saying this person's comment is literally one word different than comment that's above it and it was said a week before this one. She just used someone else's words to get likes
@Tony Stankard I know, I was just joking around lol. I was saying one employee got killed and and one employee went to jail. So there were two job openings and maybe both commenters were their replacements. But I was joking, you comment is still valid.
It always fascinates me when people get this emotional for getting caught like they didn’t just MURDER someone. Where was this emotions as he was killing and burning the young lady’s body.
He confessed.out of guilt within days. They were both high on meth. He is sorry. He cried and meant it and will waste his poor life. I felt sympathy for him as well.
@DR3d1D M@NGO “psychopaths” in the true clinical sense are statistically rare. murder is not. just because someone murders someone else, that doesn’t mean they’re a psychopath. that’s a buzzword nowadays and thrown around way too easily.
You know there are more emotions than just guilt, remorse, sympathy and empathy? If we only had those (christian) emotions, we wouldn't survive. But there are a whole host of others, most of them much more powerful. People often talk about them as if only young men prone to violence have them, but we all have them. A range of emotions that we are all doing our best to keep under wraps because, 1) we are not really taught how to deal with them and 2) when they come out it mostly gets us into trouble. Murder is one of the most natural events in the world, it has also been committed by humans since time began.
Probably absent because he was trying to save himself from going to prison aka self preservation? I dont understand comments like this, what do you expect them to do? be happy?
@Tiffany why the hell do people keep feeling sympathy towards murderers? Just why? He KILLED someone, and we should feel sorry for him? What about Savannah, and her friends and family - who is feeling for them?
@Gentle Khajiit Everyone is feelinf sorry for her and her family and friends. It's just that some people are able to emphatize both ways. The guy was clearly sorry and regretful for what he did. People act out on a 0.001 seconds notice and might not be able to regain control of the situation until it's too late. Of course this does not justify murder and the penalty he received was righteous (under the u.s. law anyways) and we're not saying it isn't. It's just that it is also sad to see a man throw his life away in the span of seconds, probably not fully understanding what he was doing until it was already too late. And when being questioned by officerers for such a crime surely the first thing that happens is not remorse but panick and defensive mode because you know your life is now at stake too. Most of the videos I've watched here on this channel are horrible, horrible people but I don't believe Lee is one of them. Just a guy at the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong person under the wrong circumstances on the wrong mood and state of mind.
@Joseph Edwards Why did you put Christian in brackets? A Christian is not more or less likely to display any emotion than an atheist or someone from any other religion
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@Joseph Edwards ? People who have Never heard of Christianity experience those emotions as well. Why do you think a religion is connected to the origin of particular emotions?
Snivelling about his mama cannot make me feel sorry for him after what he did to that poor girl. And to try to paint her out as some kind of junkie as well, please.
UnCreative Deconstructionism true but he kept saying he’s not into that heavy stuff like she was getting out of control... Guy would rather murder than go through disciplinary action through his employer
I never understood why the word "junkie" is just accepted, seems like every other kind of slur is being made a bad word but no one complains about "junkie"
@Bowman Wright So every word that develops over time to describe something must eventually be declared harmful? You know most midgets don't mind being called midgets right? It's just people like you who mind. Pretty sure most junkies would refer to themselves as junkies once they come to terms with their illness.
Pelpington - lol. When the crack epidemic swept the black community, they were called every horrible name in the book, while draconian drug laws were created to lock black folk up for decades over their addictions. Now that drug dependency is hitting rural and middle America, drug laws are relaxed (treatment instead) and saying “junkie” is a slur. That good ol white privilege
Karolinaki V I have no doubt that he was the one to introduce her to the drugs. Females aren’t usually able handle the ups and downs of chemicals and are more easily ravaged by them. So he abandoned her when she wasn’t well and, when she returned from hospital and was healthy again, he was again attracted to her. I have no doubt he was the one who introduced/suggested the heroin or harder drugs. Again he became bored, and she was not dealing well with the drug use...so he eliminated her.
I'll taketh thy cheese by force even if she was addicted, trying to mislead detectives like she was out of her mind “being paranoid” etc like she somehow had it coming ? What a guy!
Greg Garrison “So every word that develops over time to describe something must eventually be declared harmful?” Is a complete straw man argument. “Junkie” is a pejorative term that contributes to the stigma around problematic drug use. It’s tantamount to being called a human trash bag. I work directly with people who have substance use disorders and in my experience, being called a junkie/former junkie does not have a positive impact on their recovery and self esteem.
@Christina Acevedo why do women feel the need to completely reject the possibility that another woman may have been doing something wrong? I know the reason but i'm curious about your answer. What makes you think she wasnt using drugs? The fact she was fucking a guy who admitted to using drugs? The fact she was a grown woman who weighed under 100 pounds?
He probably started saying sorry to her only to seem as remorseful as possible for the best chance of self preservation. I dont buy that he feels sorry for what he did. Just for himself.
@Bowman Wright but we are, to the general public. Most of us accepted that a long time ago, even ones that were hooked by our doctors are looked down upon. Fuck society, idgaf what they call me.
@ddLk I can't speak to whether or not she was using drugs habitually, as I'm not in possession of all the details surrounding her life. However, what is clear is that the perp was attempting to paint her in such a way (ie. a "paranoid" junkie. To say nothing of the fact that heroin causes quite the opposite of paranoia) in order to explain his homicidal behavior.
To your point about women not being able to admit the fault of another woman, I would first say that there are billions of women on the planet, so I'd have to see actual research on the matter before I agreed with there being any pattern in regards to this. Women are just people and, as with people, there's a large degree of variance among individuals. However, if there is indeed such unifying pattern among women, I would most likely put it down to the simple fact that it's easier for people, in general, to empathize with, and imagine themselves in the places of, those who share similarities with them; whether those similarities be sex, race, religion etc. Perhaps women are more likely to defend the actions of other women because they know what it's like to be one, and thus subconsciously place themselves in the position of the woman in question, and view the situation in terms of what they would do and what they feel is right; unknowingly disregarding that they are a separate individual with a separate personality and beliefs. The latter could very well be the case, but again, this is a fallacy that most people have been guilty of committing (men and women).
Finally, for me personally, I do not view the use of drugs as something inherently wrong or immoral (I've struggled with them myself), therefore I don't feel the need to defend the victim from that claim for fear of tarnishing her image. Either way, a woman was murdered and whether or not she had a history of drug use is irrelevant to me. That's just me though, some women feel differently.
I know the question wasn't directed at me, but hopefully this answers it for you.
Legendoflaw21007 Whittle - I didnt make life about race, America’s racism against black people “made” it about race. Nothing I’ve shared is dishonest or a lie. It’s the real world and how Americans treat certain citizens
@Dante Good anyone that says 'white privilege' and talks about how white kids get a slap on the wrist is trying to start a race debate even though not one person talked about race. In what context was the post about? ... because I have read it 3 times and no one mentioned it. I honestly think you're a troll trying to get people worked up.
Legendoflaw21007 Whittle - Stop demanding we stay silent about racism in order to make you feel better. This is a discussion forum. I’m not sorry that facts about racial biases upset you. You want people to stop talking about racism? Well then eliminate racism and we won’t have to talk about it then.
Unfortunately Dante Goodman has been brainwashed by the prevailing culture and powers that be-who wish to instigate race wars among those who, for whatever reasons, tend not to think for themselves. Luckily he sounds pretty young-so there’s a good chance, given more life experience, he’ll wake up to reality and to what’s actually taking place in our society.
after his confession all that fake emotion nonsense was the start of his defence. What is wrong with people? you fall out with a woman - it doesnt end well. So What? taking a life like that? WTF is wrong.
They dealt with so many issues with YouTube's moderation system deleting and age restricting their videos that they've essentially quit. Their last community post from 5 months ago explains it. It sucks. The only channels I've found so far that measure up to this quality are Matt Orchard - Crime & Society and dreading.
Cringe that they send in the small cute investigator to beg him please Lee please ... pretty sure the pair girl begged him with more sincerity in her and that didn't ...
just watched the video today, and was just scrolling to see the verdict, and it was just announced today??!!! is this youtubes recommendation shenanigans again? or am i going crazy!
And apparently Florida doesn’t have parole. But they do % time or gain time. And also the law was amended in March 2021 down to the typical 65% I saw somewhere cuz it was 85. So since it was 40 with time served after 3 years that’s 37ish. 85% of that is 31ish. 65% of 37 is a subtle 24ish... so I mean he still gets out before 60. 55 if we get specific and if he participates in rehabilitative stuff and good time and all that reform mumbo jumbo. Killers be just walking around old af. And we wonder why these old folks drive crazy and do crazy shit. That mf was either in nam or in prison this whole time. Agent orange vs agents of the law. Idk bout this last part I’m saying but he gonna get out tho if they don’t kill him in there like he said.
@Yohan Auvray idk man, it's not like it was on my recommended page. I was just binge watching these videos for the last few days and it was one of the many other videos on the side bar
@♪ Artsy Ebony Rose ♪ has nothing to do with what you have watched before I think. It's just that this video is connected to the one of his verdict. You watch one, you watch the other.
@nanana I agree. your insight into the Colombian side of things would be great if you want to elaborate. But altogether it is truly crazy to think back to all the old folks I’ve seen in my life and to now second guess what made them the way they are. Most criminals doing time never made it to the news. So you’ll never know. And unless the news is keeping up to date and folks watching the news are keeping up to date, this guy could get released 25 to 37 years from now and no one would know about it. And he won’t look the same so how would recognize him. Who do we blame. Society? The law? Government? If we treat criminals worse than they treat their victims are we then worse than the criminal? And if we just let him walk back out on the street... to clarify, he doesn’t have to reform or anything. He can do the full 37 and not change at all. He can try to be better but his sentence was 40 max. Lol that means he can just be sitting there plotting revenge and we have to let him walk free cuz the law said so
@Chicago Swish Rhymes Yes. I worked at the prison some years ago, basically here in colombia you have something called "redemptions periods" so, if you work or even study inside prison they give you 2 days for 1 day of prison time. In colombia, an many latin american countries we dont have life sentences and we have a maximum jail time so if you kill three people they accumulate your jail time to the max time and remember that redemption opportunity so as the matter of fact you kill three people and finally you pay half of the max time.
It's totally insane but I personally believe that it's about two things: 1. Catholic religion (compassion and so on) and 2. We are poor countries so the goverment doesn't have enough money to build new prisons etc (we dont have private companies contractors having prisons administration like United States.)
@nanana the majority of information I know about Colombia, is from the show Narcos. And after looking up “magical realism” and seeing how the show may have incorrectly used the term makes me wonder about other things in the show. I knew that Pablo made his own prison. Otherwise I’m not very educated on the matter. It sounds insane though. It’s like no matter how hard the good guys try, they can’t keep the bad guys away, kesas? And the private prison system is crazy too. I think private prisons in America get paid by the government. And if Columbia doesn’t have the money to pay a company, if the company did exist, then the prison would need someone else to pay or keep prisoners for free. And maybe something like the United Nations or some big world organization like that would pay. But then they have to take something else from Columbia for helping keep the prisoners in a new prison. I’m just guessing on how it might work but it still doesn’t seem like it would fix the problem. Idk. Very interesting to think about and unfortunate to know that this is the realidad. I appreciate you. Thank you for your time in letting us know.
@Chicago Swish RhymesOk, 1. You have to consider that escobar was decades ago. I mean, now we have modern cities like yours, off course, there its some differences but I meet some americans living here (Medellín) before and they say that it feels pretty similar if youre living in upper middle areas. Now, being say that we can discuss about narcos I mean Colombia produce cocaine but there is some hypocrisy because rich countries have the consumers and the market, finally colombia gets all stigmatization and, off course, so many people die because narcos who buy guns with the money that they're getting in the usa. I can tell you this: I never never in my life do drugs, never touch any drug, and I know that maybe for you it sounds a lie but its totally true We dont have the drug adiction problem that you find in some place of usa.
2. Colombia its a poor country but it doesn't mean that we are like some africa countries or something. Yes, Colombian goverment can use a couple billion dollars in order to reorganize the prison system and getting full corporate but it will cost politically speaking so they simple dont do it and you have these prison unions, pretty big and strong, and they will do everything in order to stop any atempt to become corpo because they are goverment workers and they have some legal benefits (some years ago they even can get retired after 20 years of service)
3. Note aside: I notice something: if you live in colombia as a middle class or upper class person youre definitely can live better than being a poor american. That's sounds crazy but I belive its true because: a) we have an universal healthcare sistem like canada and it have some failures but it works. Here there is not such thing like a person with a healthcare debt. b) Real State are cheap and reasonable comparing to usa. c) food are cheap and more organic than usa because we dont have a lot of industrial process that you have d) if you live like a normal person, go to normal areas of the city, travel in normal hours to the little towns etc its quite peaceful (I know this sounds weird but it is the true, you get the most sensationalist news from Colombia) e) we dont have the work culture from usa and you dont have to work the huge amount of hours that you use to work in usa and f) you can get like all the basic gadgets stuff that you can buy in usa like I dont know a macbook, you know that kind of stuff. In fact I use to buy some things from amazon. g) there is not such thing like food coupons here. Because we dont need it, yeah, a couple of food services from the town but its not really an issue here.
Im just making a little comparison (middle upper class vs poor people in usa) and I know that in so many levels usa are pretty rich and more funnier to live that colombia. I love Usa and I want to visit as a tourist (I have some parents with citizenship and in fact my brother are in nyc right now as a tourist getting the vaccine, etc) but I can Assure you that its not like you maybe being informed like some jungle with people with a lot of guns etc (as a big country off course we have people with guns in some jungle but its more like you have to drive hours in the middle of nowhere to see something like that) we have cities like yours, we big buildings, uber, metro, parks, people running with dogs, coffe places like chicago, hot dog places like chicago, starbuks, burger king, mc donalds autoservice, and whatever. I have a car and in the weekend I can drive to the beautiful little towns with my girl, I can buy a cheap flight to another city for 25 usd dollars and get some fun. Yeah there its poverty, yeah you get some really weird news from here because media wants to show you only the bad (imagine being here in colombia and all the news from usa like "florida man doing something heavy" haha its like youre getting only the bad for colombia in the news ....but being say that there is a lot fun places too.
Pd: My intention its not to say anything bad about usa, I really love your country, colombia its a big ally and I admire a lot of things from usa like Mit, Stanford, Sillicon Valley, Space Rockets, Universities, incredible place and landscapes, texas bbq, and off course people (we dont think in colombia in terms of races so I reffer to all of you as a nation no matter skin tones) Stay strong america, stay classy.
People here actually thought the female detective was amazing? I almost slipped through the video because of how over dramatic she was and ridiculous pleading to the guy that killed this girl. There is no way I would’ve taken that seriously in fact if it wasn’t a murder charge I bet he would’ve been laughing because of how ridiculous she sounds
You might think he is stupid, but how could anyone ever know that the car park at the place where they work and park their car everyday has a security camera?
It doesn't come across as if that was the motive. More like he was just pissed off at her for a variety of reasons. Have you ever dealt with a really difficult person? Remember he also said that he started seeing her when he already had a girlfriend. It was a complicated situation.
@Choco Manger You're right. I'm sure it was many things. I have to say yes, I have dealt with an extremely difficult person. I have a son with a ex who was possessive, jealous and controlling. I left the relationship and she tried to make my life hell. Using my son as a pawn, as well. Things are good now after custody battles, however, i would NEVER do something as crazy and stupid as murder. Partly the reason im so fascinated by true crime is bc I find it hard to understand how these people make these decisions. Like I get that theres a number of reasons, but still...find another solution!
@simms1237 I'm so sorry about your ex-wife. I don't understand why people do that to someone they at some point in time loved enough to spend their life together.
Honestly, he was probably just a line cook who claimed he was a chef. He looks like the type who would yell at the staff for bringing back the slop he made.
Note: just supplying drugs at the job and banging the hot waitress doesn't mean you're the chef
I dont think a lot of the commenters critiquing the female interrogators methods and calling it cringey realize that this isnt specifically tailored for us to watch lol, she's putting on a emotionally manipulative act that is meant to be dramatic and meant to draw out the guilt inside of him, and she did a great job at it.
I guess. She did help break him, so her technique was a good one. But I kind of feel it was a huge risk to use that method, as he just as easily could have been scared right into calling for an attorney. She scared the sh!t out of me, though, and I'm innocent! I was pleading in my head for Lee to confess just to shut her up!
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@C Glenn he only broke when she stopped doing the yelling emotional thing...once she was calm and quiet, he admitted to it.
To me it didn't come off as manufactured though, it genuinely seemed like she was messing up the other guy's strategy. He even subtly corrected her a few times
@JohnathanK Doe Right, it's pointless to say that behind your phone/computer presumably in a place of comfort, knowing you've done nothing wrong. In a box at some law enforcement station or something with 2 professional detectives trying to get something out of you while you're trying to cover up the shit you did because if you fail you know you're in real trouble? Yea, you're not going to find her easy to dismiss.
This is true. Detectives are very good at this and sometimes even act like they’re on your side. I’ve been interrogated before and even fell for it when I was younger; luckily I ended up being set free in the end.
Hey Jim. You’ve inspired my kid to seriously consider a career in “forensic psychology” is that right? Whatever the right thing is you’ve given a teenager some inspiration on career paths that genuinely interest her.
Well done. If you do nothing else you’ve done this simple good thing.
Thanks Buddy.
Yes I know you are a team but to us you’re just Jim.
I see a lot of comments saying how “needy” the female officer was but I think this is why it worked. She probably realized that he killed the girl in a snap and could be very remorseful. So the mom/girlfriend sad voice worked very well.
Yes I agree it's so obvious. Her behavior being judged in the comments? Wow that doesn't surprise me! Some people... they just don't get it, even if it came up to them and slapped them across the face. This was excellent work by the JSO homicide unit. There might not have been a confession, if not for these two investigators.
My impression was she was trying to take on the tone of a bereaved mother to appeal to any sense of compassion he may have for Savannah's own mother. It seemed to work pretty well.
The reason why people hated her response is most likely because of how underneath that veil of emotion she was so calculated, methodical, prepared, and effective that they know they too would have fallen into that spider web. They are mistaking the cold premeditation of this womans use of her empathic female nature for weakness, and they could not be more wrong. She broke that fucking kid mentally without ever so much as raising her voice above an argumentative tone. You can see the level of expertise in the way and time she first chooses to interject herself into the conversation. This was A+ level mental jujitsu.
Maureen Seel that’s exactly why she’s there, to make you talk. She wants to to get upset at her so you confess. You getting mad at her voice means she’s doing her job🤩
Dominik Baumgartner you have a right of having opinions and me too but I mean yours just sounds internal misogyny so I choose to believe that she is capable of her job.
@2kawaii2care I have never doubted you right to have an opinion, wtf? And now you`re acusing me of misogyny just because I don`t think what she did worked? This is absolutely ridiculous and I strongly reject this accusation. You can`t just play the "misogyny card" if I don`t like everything a woman does. For your information, there are thousands of things I don`t like certain men do, so what`s your point? It`s like saying I`m against black people because I don`t like the looting during the BLM protests.
@Dominik Baumgartner just think about it looks a lot like internal misoginy, I mean is not like you're a bad person we all are created inside a society that makes full of bias, I probably have mine too. but this channel is very clear in bad pratices and good pratices and I think he would say if she did something bad. He is a expert I prefer to listen his opinion. And you right Black lives Matters! kisses
@2kawaii2care Even professionals can make mistakes and you can be 100% sure that her tactic wouldn`t work if she used it against me. But whatever you say. Have a good one.
@2kawaii2care Wtf r u talking about 40 mins... the video cuts off after 55 mins and we have no idea how long it took her crying at him for him to confess. Awful technique
I hate seeing the comments implying she’s emotional because she’s a woman, completely undermining the fact she’s a detective who is playing a role to get a confession
@U from an outsiders perspective yes but she isn't putting on a show for us. Imagine the situation the accused is in, he will for sure view it differently in that state and hence it works, AND that's all that matters really. Not if you find it cringy or not.
It was absolutely annoying, even the murderer knew exactly which technique she was using, it's the first technique you'll ever be taught, it was pathetic
@Spuppy Relax snowflake. Just stating the obvious, that women are more emotional than men. Fact doesn't have to be sexist, but then again EVERYTHING is sexism nowadays. Also, I already have a woman, so ur wrong.
@lordgizka she’s literally professionally trained... have you ever trained to be a detective? Do you know anything about what they planned for this interrogation? Didn’t think so
It was obviously fake emotion but I was curious why she chose that particular route and why she steered into it so hard. It would have been nice to hear the narrator mention the technique and maybe explain why they were so sure it would work even though she was only a mediocre actress.
@Fred a man in this video got angry and literally murdered a person, then had an extended breakdown when he got caught. A woman doing her job feigned some desperation to get him to confess, which worked swimmingly. Yet you still think this is evidence women are "more emotional" than men LOL anger is an emotion. I guess you didn't listen well enough in daycare to learn that.
@U yes, I did. My opinion doesn't change. She was acting and trying to get sympathy out of him with her daughter because that's the exact same thing he tried to do before. If he knew that could cause an impact on someone then having a real mother tell him how much of a fucking shitty person he is would hit hard. He even cried and felt regret at the end. He was clearly not a psycopath.
@Vyansya Yeah people can complain if they wish. No two people have the same views, so take a chill pill and perhaps discuss the reason as to why people view her to be "too emotional" rather than come to an unwarranted conclusion. Indeed I find myself siding with those who find the female detective's christholm technique being too forceful. As someone who works as a police forensic technician in the UK I have never in my career been involved with the interviewing process, but have however witnessed such interviews in person and this type of technique seen in the video has indeed been overstretched to how we approached them over here. This is carried out in so many different manners within the world, we usually call this forceful manner as a "poor mans Hollywood script". To some it up, she did her job and they managed to a get a confession from the suspect so a good days work, just a bit too much nevertheless.
It's totally commendable that you are defending this detective, and I totally agree with you that she's just doing her job. But it's never a wise ideal to get very emotional in regards to sociopath's- it gives them a false sense of control.
As you noticed, after she got rather emotional, thereafter the suspect just kept saying, "I don't know."
When the female detective got a bit more firm and confident in her evidence, towards the 31:00 mark, he then admitted that Savannah went home with him.
With a suspect whose more fragile and emotional, a more emotional response does work- but not with one as stubborn as this guy. :)
@courtney fritz1988 didn't you watch the video? The entire goal was to give him a false sense of control. The narrator brings this up several times. They use various tactics to make the suspect feel more comfortable, more in control, then suddenly take it away. The roller coaster of emotion (for the suspect) is what throws him off and eventually leads to a confession. Her tactic was similar but with the extra emotion of guilt being thrown into the mix. How can you say "it's never wise" from your armchair after watching someone successfully do her job? If a baseball pitcher did pirouettes while pitching and struck out every batter, you wouldn't say "it's never wise because it throws off the pitcher's balance and he can't see very well." You'd say "damn, not the technique I would've chosen but hey, it worked!" She got a freaking confession. It worked exactly as planned. Stop trying to tell women infinitely more qualified than you how to do their jobs.
@Fred women are not more emotional than men. From where, and how are you getting your definition of emotional? Is it because women are slightly more susceptible to transitioning between different emotions in shorter timespans than men (due to their physiology) on average?
Hate to break your bubble, but that isn't the definition of emotional. 'Emotional' literally means to be capable of emotion. Sure, number 2 or 3 on the definition list might explore the colloquial meanings for the word, but at its core, emotional just means to be capable of feeling emotion. Men are no different. Culture has dictated that men should hide these emotions, but that doesn't mean they're not present.
But to honest with you, in current, modern culture, men seem to have no qualms with getting angry, proud, self-elevating, defensively dismissive, aggressive, and confrontational. These are all traits of a creature with the capacity for emotion.
It's very similar to how lay people often erroneously state that psychopaths and sociopaths lack the capacity for emotion. Wrong. They experience a vast amount of emotions. What people are really referring to when they say that psychopaths and sociopaths don't feel emotions, is empathy and compassion.
These 2 detectives worked as a team and nailed this guy. You should be commending them both on their skill and prowess, not bemoaning a female detective for being 'annoying' 😂
@Fred on the contrary. I'm saying men committing acts of violence is an indicator they are not in control of their emotions. This woman was in 100% control of her emotions. The man she was talking to did not have any control of his emotions whatsoever.
@courtney fritz1988 they didn't walk into the interrogation and decide on the spot which way to roll with it. Every suspect they deal with is profiled and examined. They have an entire team of forensic investigators at their disposal. If there were any hint that the suspect might be mentally ill or impaired, in the case of psychopathy and sociopathy, they would have taken a much different approach. Sometimes, such people are highly skilled at hiding their condition and it takes some time to work out which tactic will work best.
No, you're wrong. Getting emotional as she did is sometimes THE BEST strategy if you have good reason to believe at the time that your suspect will succumb to it.
Occasionally it doesn't work and they have to try something else, but they are by no means arbitrary in deciding which strategy is most likely to yield a desired response.
@U Think of it this way they are doing it as a good cop bad cop type of situation. It’s was stated earlier that they rehearsed so he most likely died the hard hitting questions while she relates and shows more of the emotional appeal
@Aquascape Dreaming Love the fact u spent so much effort into explaining all this. Guess u missed the part where I was trolling this thread. People get so riled up over a comment.
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@Fred But you're adorable ! All that posturing though. PRETTY suspicious : D talking like a cowboy, calling people simp and snowflake, using common knowledge and logic like a big boy. I bet that woman you live with is super proud of her son.
i don't care about the technique lots of people of these vids i've watched have done that technique but it's just her voice is whiney like a little kid its not about her being emotional its about the pitch of her voice is aggy like a whiney baby crying
What matters is results and only results and would say that her methods while unpleasant to watch got the kind of result that most detectives hope for in these sorts of circumstances. Sometimes an appeal to a persons emotions can be a powerful thing.
@U You ever stop to consider that maybe, not everything women do is designed to be pleasing to men? You ever consider that maybe we're human beings who get annoying and loud and difficult at times - not ornamental objects designed for your pleasure?
Men are allowed to be annoying as s--t. You literally throw tantrums when you're told you CAN'T be annoying ("you can't even talk to women anymore"; as if we even wanted to talk to you at all). Why don't we get to be annoying too?
@Fred Female detectives are literally everywhere. You don't see them in FICTION, because fiction is sexist. They exist in real life.
Also, they recently did a study on cops in my country, and like half of the male cops OPENLY admitted to having committed rape during the study (because it was anonymous, and they knew they wouldn't get in trouble). That's the ones who admitted to it. Gee, maybe that's why we don't see more female cops. Because, just like everywhere else on the planet, they can't feel SAFE in the police force.
@LordofFullmetal The only reason there would be more female detectives is because of quota hiring, which creates its own set of problems. Fiction is not sexist, it shows what people WANT to see. A 100lbs woman beating up badguys is not very relatable now is it. Abit off topic, but u get the picture. Women get raped all over the place, nothing exclusive about it in the police force. Just walking outside is a risk these days. Where I live it happens in broad daylight totally random. We all know the reason for it, but that's "wrong think" these days.
@Fred A detective or inspector isn't really something you are hired into. It's something you're promoted into or take special examinations for. Detectives also aren't really the ones "beating up bad guys" as they are the ones that handle the investigation and follow up of police reports.
To be honest I don't think the female interrogator was helpful at all here. When she switched the vibe so quickly to an emotional assault, I thought the suspect would probably just lock up.
And that's exactly what he did for a good while. It was too much sensory information too quickly. The guy was obviously confused and startled, which is a textbook way to get somebody to freeze and lock up. They're just lucky that the video evidence was a trump card that the suspect obviously couldn't get away from. But I'm sure they would have reached productive territory faster without that strategy.
@BodTheGrinch It was literally discussed in the video that this was their strategy and was rehearsed and that it worked. This was all calculated, they already had the video evidence at the time of the interrogation. There approach would have been different if they didn't have it.
@The Dean of Lean Lol I'm well aware it was their strategy mate. I watched the video. I'm saying her contribution to the strategy wasn't helpful in being successful. For, y'know, the reasons I actually described in my comment.
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The Dean of Lean2021-05-31 19:02:05 (edited 2021-05-31 19:02:21 )
@BodTheGrinch But what you're saying is in direct contradiction to what the video shows and says. What's up with that?
@The Dean of Lean Jeez man, read my comment. Seriously. I said they successfully got the confession because of the video evidence, which the suspect could not worm his way out of. But they would have got the confession quicker and easier had the female interrogator not used that emotional assault strategy. You can literally see the suspect lock up when she starts that.
@Fred Why is a feminine display of emotion considered irrational but aggression/anger is considered a tactic? Lol no wonder guys fall for women's manipulation all the time, if they're so naive they don't even think a professional interrogator is likely to be putting it on (which, btw, she clearly is).
@Fred did you know that the reason why women are more emotional during menstruation is because their hormones are as closest to a man's more than ever? Testosterone makes people emotional and fly off the handle more often.
@The Dean of Lean Come on mate, wakey wakey! I know they needed a confession. Where in my comment did I say they didn't need a confession? I'm saying the emotional assault strategy was not HELPFUL in attaining the confession. If anything, it delayed the confession by making the guy lock up.
@BodTheGrinch Where in my comment did I say you said they didn't need a confession? The video by itself was not enough for him to confess. It wasn't until pressure was applied that he did.
Without being emotionally pressured, would he have confessed? Because he didn't confess as soon as he found out they had video. He likely would have not confessed at all in that interrogation room without that pressure.
Also don't you think if it wasn't helpful the other detective would have allowed it to continue? He doesn't stop her, he just keeps asking questions as well.
@The Dean of Lean You know there are various approaches to interrogation, right? Yes, without being emotionally ASSAULTED, he would have confessed, because there are many other approaches to that situation. And this was emotional assault, not emotional pressure. Emotional pressure is much more what I would expect to be a useful strategy here. Like I said, you can literally see the man lock up from the excessive stimulus. It's very evident.
And what do you think the other detective should do if he disagrees with his partners approach? What, stop the interrogation for a moment and say "excuse me, sorry, I don't agree with that approach right now, let's use another strategy"? No, obviously not. Not to mention, judging from what the narrator said, the male detective was most likely aware of what his partner would do beforehand, and agreed with it. I'm not suggesting she was some kind of liability here holding the guy back. I think it was an unhelpful strategy that they devised. Luckily, the suspect was cornered either way, so their approach got the job done.
@BodTheGrinch Yes and this is one of those approaches. He had already been confronted bluntly with things like "Where is she, what happened to her" and he was expecting that sort of thing. He continued to deny and say "I don't know" even when the video was brought to light. It wasn't until the emotional "assault" that he started to crack. If it wasn't helpful then how did it get him to confess? Why were the other things that got him to lock up or pause helpful as opposed not helpful?
The other detective could have simply motioned to their partner, a little raise of the hand like "hold." They don't need to verbally communicate or have a strategy meeting.
Is him locking up really the only reason you deem it to be unhelpful? Because a helluva a lot of things could cause a suspect to lock up. Asking them a direct question, telling them you have proof, accusing them of the crime, accusing them of lying.
@The Dean of Lean "He continued to deny and say "I don't know" even when the video was brought to light. It wasn't until the emotional "assault" that he started to crack."
No. She revealed that they had proof and immediately launched into the emotional assault. There was no other approach used in conjunction with revealing the proof. So no, other approaches did not fail after the video was brought up. The crux of your comment is simply wrong.
And no, it wouldn't be a good idea for the detective to start signalling to his partner. The suspect would clearly pick up on that. And that's irrelevant in any case, I already said the strategy was at fault, not specifically the female detective. The male detective would have no reason to interject. He's in on it.
Look mate, if you're not good at interpreting body language, or hell, even actually remembering the order of events here, I can't help you. You should be able to see that the guy is bewildered when the lady starts to unload. He's obviously overstimulated, and with no answer to give, he locks into a 'safe' "I don't know" defense. Not surprising. Again, if you can't interpret that body language, I can't help you.
I have worked with lots of men that have emotions all over the place and lots of women that aren't very emotional at all. These things come from nurture not nature
The way the female detective was talking to him was very effective and it worked. All officers are trained to figure out what is the best way to get a suspect's trust and or get them to confess. I can grantee you that the Male officer in this video has questioned a suspect whole being just as emotional as the female officer is and she has also done questioning where she had to be hard on the suspect. Like I said they're trained to figure out the best way to get the confession, and the to act accordingly, it has nothing to do with their genders
@BodTheGrinch We then have different understandings of emotional assault. You say it started immediately, I'm saying it started with "Well, I’m telling you, I’m telling you I’m not lying. I’m not making that up. That’s why I’m so passionate about this." It was after this that he started to crack and went from "I don't know" to non-verbally answering.
Shortly after this he claims they went to his house. His story started to change. Answer me, why did it get results? Why did he start saying different things? Directly before and after the moment you consider the emotional assault his responses were "I don't know" "I didn't do anything" there was hardly any change in his response. After the moment I talked about, there is notable difference in how he responds. He says "I don't know" less, he says he didn't drop her off, said they went to his house, said she left in an uber, talked about them having arguments. Significant more and different information.
So how are you going to say it was an unhelpful strategy, when it helped to get him to give more information, contradict himself and confess? Like what even? Honestly.
@The Dean of Lean Oh be serious. So the wobbling voice and stories about her own kids conveniently doesn't get included in the emotional assault in your opinion? That's hilarious.
Again, you can clearly see the man does nothing but get locked in a defensive, confused silence by her approach. Not least because she barely gives him time to respond. Very useful, eh.
And I notice, also very conveniently, you're ignoring the 'alternate question' employed by the other detective, which blatantly lands vastly more effectively than the emotional assault. You can even see a moment where the suspect sighs, clearly responding to the male detective's assurance that they're not necessarily accusing the man of murder. That's also the most recent strategy used before the suspect confesses further details. Isn't that interesting.
@Dior Linn U missed the part where I said I have a woman. Try again.
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The Dean of Lean2021-05-31 22:56:16 (edited 2021-05-31 23:06:31 )
@BodTheGrinch No because it does not continue and it is not sustained. The moment I talked about is continued and sustained.
The alternative question comes before what I said was the emotional assault. Also the video straight up says the alternative question didn't work.
So what I said was the emotional assault was the most recent tactic used and the alternative question was stated not to work. 28:07 "It was a smart move but the suspect did not fall for it on this occasion."
28:54 is the need for a confession and then how they will apply pressure by going at his character and morals, the emotional assault begins. Very soon after he breaks eye contact and looks away and down. This is a much greater response than from the alternative question. He soon amends his story after the bring it down and by the time he is about to confess he is sniffling.
@The Dean of Lean I don't have time to keep correcting you. The alternative question is used again at 30:47. The male detective appeases the suspect by assuring him (obviously falsely) that they're not accusing him of intentionally doing anything at that point, and asks a slightly different question. This is where the suspect actually responds. And quite clearly this is after the emotional assault was tried and failed.
The narrator literally says, right after, that they've now made a breakthrough "by lowering the level of admission". They did this by asking a slightly, you guessed it, alternative question, along with assurance that this wasn't the big confession.
I've made this crystal clear for you now. Do me a favour and don't argue for the sake of it.
@BodTheGrinch So what happened to that body language response you said he had? He had one during the part I talked about but not here.
Would the detective (falsely) assuring him be part of an alternative question? Because that isn't a alternative, more morally accepting choice, that's a statement. The 'tell us where you went" right after isn't different from the prior questioning.
Also the part that was fast forwarded through after that question and before the route he took is more appealing to his character and morals. You would have to read the actual transcript for that part.
I don't think it's a good tactic. The murderer does not care about the family of the victim, he probably hasn't thought about that, which makes him even more defensive after that. The only thing that worked was when they started telling the details about the footage they had.
Yeah it's a psychological tactic that, in the hopes the suspect isn't mentally insane, they use to try and make the suspect see what the mother of said victim thinks and try to make them feel remorse or regret their decision which in turn will hopefully cause them to confess to everything
@motorbreathjz so respecting a woman is being a simp? A guy just can’t be nice to a woman without expecting sex? Wow that’s just undermining men then. Y’all treat yourselves like animals who can’t control sexual urges and then you wonder why women don’t respect you
@Dior Linn being more emotional and sensitive is natural for a women.. and that being said when you get gender confused males freaking out when something like that is stated i find it troubling and not respecting a women but respecting a fragile concept or idea in their delusional minds
@Gabrielle Fournell in an effort to mock me you actually paraphrased and mocked the comment I was replying to. In effect, that was the point made in the post I was replying to - that the two are not equal in obtaining a confession
@Gabrielle Fournell here’s the first thing I’ll say - you’ve now insulted me (albeit passive aggressively) twice, which I haven’t done to you. I’d first ask if there is a difference or some reason why people can’t insult the detectives approach but it’s ok for you to insult people to defend your point? Secondly, I was using hyperbole to express what your point means, which is that if something works ( your example was a batters technique, I don’t know baseball but I guess I figure what you mean ) then it’s not for us to judge how it worked, rather that the result is good. My point is, because you seemed to have missed it, that we can and should criticise methods despite the outcome. Whether or not this technique is “right or wrong” is not really what I’m arguing at all.
@James wow. Nope. Saying alternative techniques that are effective used by experts in a field and hurt no one shouldn't be judged by laymen is not the same as saying torture is acceptable as long as it's effective. And accusing someone of meaning the latter because they said the former is not "hyperbole." It's using an extreme and twisted strawman. It's also pretty insulting. I don't owe you this explanation, but in short the way people are attacking this woman sparks from a much greater issue of rampant sexism. Not one person has a critique on the male detective's techniques, nor do they on any of the other videos on this channel (as far as I've seen) of male detectives. Suddenly, a female detective is fair game for people who know nothing about her job to criticize because of a history and culture of assuming men know better than women, mansplaining, and calling women "too emotional" for crying while a man in the same room literally murdered someone in anger and they don't jump to calling him "emotional." I've lived my whole life with this shit. One example is you taking a point I made about experts knowing what they are doing and trying to turn it into me saying there are zero exceptions, even for war crimes. It is exhausting, infuriating, and personal. If you're insulted by me saying you don't know what a pirouette is or what "strike out" or that you use strawman arguments, I can't help you. Those are just facts, by your own admission.
@motorbreathjz This concept that men can’t have emotions is hurtful to men. Lmao y’all oppress yourselves by calling each other “pussies” when a man shows the slightest bit of emotion. Men experience emotions too. Anger for an example, that’s an emotion that everybody feels. Being emotional has nothing to do with gender like y’all make it out to be. Y’all want to paint this narrative of women being weak, sensitive and emotional so bad. Being emotional has to do with your upbringing and character traits, not your gender
@Gabrielle Fournell You're right that you don't owe me anything Gabrielle, and I am not offended about not knowing about baseball terminology -- but if you accuse me of not knowing about football (soccer) then I may take offense! haha. Intimating that I am 'thick' would be considered insulting by some, and at no point have I personally insulted you. You may feel offended by my opinion, but that is different, naturally. I am still curious to know why you can insult me but other people can't insult the detective though. To go back to my original point then, I was illustrating that ends don't justify the means, in the sense that even if it worked, the technique cannot be beyond scrutiny. And that is all people are doing -- scrutinising the technique. We have video evidence that it was used in this case but I think it's open to interpretation whether or not it 'worked' in this instance. Regardless, they use it, so it must have a adequate chance of success. You are a layman expressing your opinion and admiration for the detective, are you not? Is it not reasonable that there are people who have a differing and contrasting opinion to yours?
@Minxywaters That isn't why women are more emotional during menstruation at all. Also, a woman's hormones are "closer" to a man's during menopause than they are during menstruation - not that this has any significance to anything at all.
Women also naturally express more negative emotions than men, this is a fact.
I don't understand why people just make things up in juvenile men vs women arguments for one-upmanship sake. These kind of arguments are dumb in any case, as though one gender is better or worse than the other in some way, based purely on their gender alone, because the human brain is that simple.
@Dior Linn Why are you typing your ill informed opinions as facts? Emotions absolutely have a lot to do with gender. Pick up a book, use Google. You have so many resources freely available to you and rather than utilise them, you instead type a bunch of opinions (which are incorrect) as though they're factual just because you seemingly dislike the idea that men and women aren't actually the same (shocker).
Do you have any idea what the odds are of males and females having evolved the exact same way in regards to their hormones over thousands and thousands of years in order for our emotions to be the same or for gender itself to be irrelevant/not a factor? That's virtually impossible. This is ignoring the fact that we know hormones between men and women vary and that hormones play a large part in our expression of emotion as humans. All of this and you're seriously claiming that gender doesn't play a role in emotions? Men and women are not the same and to point this out is not sexist at all. Anybody who behaves as though it is, is ignorant and obviously not very bright.
@Chris Thanks. I kinda did this knowing that people would try to gang up on me, it's how people work these days when someone has a different opinion. A fun little experience to show how predictable they can be 😁 Notice how especially the women get all riled up over a few comments. I obviously string them along for dramatic effect. Just goes to show my initial point, that they indeed act out on emotions more than men (on average). And the white knights will join the party, works every time. People get so easily offended these days it's scary.
@Dior Linn simply agreeing that women are naturally more emotional.. that doesnt mean were saying us dudes aint.. upbringing does make a difference.. but yes.. a women is generally on a big scale more sensitive than a man.. i mean come on..
@The Dean of Lean I'm afraid you've reached the point where you're literally ignoring the narrator when he explains exactly what caused the suspect to confess.
Oh and I'm more than happy for you to try to derail things with semantics. You can call it an alternative question, which it clearly is, or a combination of other techniques, call it whatever you want, the point is that it isn't part of the emotional assault. It's a completely different approach, and the narrator literally said it led to the confession. If you've seen other videos on this channel, you'll see it used elsewhere.
Now that you're actually ignoring the narrator when he says in clear terms what caused the confession, I'll waste no more time here.
@BodTheGrinch You ignored the additional dialogue that isn't in this video but is in the transcript, I even linked it. You also didn't mention the body language bit you talked about earlier. He hardly had any body language respone when you claimed he did, but he did have a response at the part I pointed out.
Is it semantics? Because earlier the detective asked "could it have been an overdose" that is clearly an alternative question and gives him a more morally accepting choice, but this other time he asked where she was which they had been asking the entire time and it's not. It might not even matter because the omitted part I talked about is right after that and again goes into his character and morals.
The narrator doesn't say an alternative question got him to confess (he also doesn't confess yet but amends his story) He does say they lowered the level of admission and that they got a foot in the door but that isn't exclusive to an alternative question.
Your original claim was that the emotional assault was unhelpful. I claimed otherwise, citing the things said directly before he amends his story, which are going at his character and morals. For the confession itself, pressuring his emotions directly proceeds it.
Again, directly before pivotal moments and breakthroughs, it's pressure on his character, morals and emotions. If this was not helpful that would not have happened. I can not stress enough how telling it is that things happened when he was pressured. You have the face the facts, the emotional assault/pressure whatever you want to call it was indeed helpful.
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D Jackson2021-06-01 22:38:43 (edited 2021-06-01 22:43:55 )
@The Dean of Lean Which is exactly what I said - "Women also naturally express more negative emotions than men, this is a fact."
None of my comments had anything to do with women acting on emotions rather than reason, that was somebody else. In fact, everything you've claimed I've said in your comment was actually said by "Fred", not me.
If you're going to reply, please at least check that you are replying to the right person. I realise that both of our "avatars" are similar in colour, but seriously, this is just lazy of you.
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The Dean of Lean2021-06-01 22:45:23 (edited 2021-06-01 22:47:43 )
@D Jackson My bad, I replied to the wrong person. You're comment was right above Fred's and both of your profile pics are orange. I should have paid more attention, I am sorry.
@Fred Um, a quick Google search is showing that women are more emotionally expressive not outright more emotional. It's mainly because of social and cultural reasons rather than biological that men and women express emotion differently.
One of your first comments was that women act on emotions rather than reason. Is that actually backed by facts? That seems more like an ill informed opinion more than a fact. As I already mentioned, the amount of emotions experienced are the same between men and women. Men do not experience emotion less frequently than women do. In fact, a quick search is showing that what you said isn't appearing to be true. Women don't act based emotion more than men do.
Also isn't your comment about men resolving problems with violence a contradiction to your claim of women acting more on emotion than men?
You talked about how the women get especially riled up and then the white knights show up, but a man was the first person to respond to your comments. There also seems to be a roughly even distribution of responses from both sexes.
@Jassy Exactly. I think its hard for most people to grasp the fact that he just ENDED HER LIFE. People dont just decide to do something that drastic, that is a decision that has to be reasoned out and then delivered.
Given his immediate situation, it's rather logical that he's not lamenting his victim (he killed her and can't change that any more) but rather himself (considering the bleak "future" before him).
And given that in his mind she may have even provoked the crime, it would be strange if he suddenly started empathizing with her after just sinking into much deeper shit than he was in already. So in sum, he did something he regrets a lot, tried to cover his ass as best as he could, failed, and is now suffering from the consequences of his actions.
That doesn't make him some hardened psycho murderer, just an average cowardly impulsive dude who made a terrible mistake.
@Tylenial Have you ever seen a case were they pleaded guilty and you thought to yourself "Ah, that's nice of him. He may have killed an innocent person and burned their remains but at least he admitted to it. That changed my perception of his person!" There are a ton of people pleading guilty but never have i seen someone giving them any form of credit for it. At least in murder cases like this.
You can do a terrible thing and feel bad about it why do you think that's not possible. Humans have done horrible things for the whole of history its an aspect of being human.
He even cusses about her when he is crying "f#ucking savannah". But there is no way in knowing how he feels. He may feel no remorse in this clip but does for years to come while he is in jail. But i do feel like he felt guilty considering he confessed so fast, most people wont do that if they dont feel remorse. But he says so many conflicting things outloud so who knows
@Another stimulating comment it seemed like he was trying to blame her in a way that isn't super obvious it was all about him, how he was affected by her and how HIS life was supposed to be different, how HE was supposed to be better I do believe that he does feel bad for killing her but it seems like its second to his loss of freedom
But maybe we have to pity ourselves before we can pity others. And come to think of it, all tears are a response to how we feel. All feelings are by the self for the self.
Totally. His first stress reaction was “Fucking Savannah” and “why are you so stupid” so only sorry he got caught. Toen after relaxing a bit hè probably remembers there’s camera’s everywhere and starts talking to himself. Who does that unless you know you are being recorded and want to redeem yourself a bit.
He's not sad for Savannah. He's crying because he feels bad for himself and what will happen to him. He still has so much anger towards her. He's not sorry because she died, he's sorry because he's scared for himself.
Seems like there was a lot going on - can't say I know the guy personally but it's absolutely possible to have anger towards someone and not (long term) want them dead.
Dread is dread. Fear for ones own mortality is not unwarranted, especially here. Dude destroyed himself and her. And will suffer for the rest of his existence for his terrible decisions.
However his plea is pretty dumb. And clearly he is not willing to own what he’s done.
If you practice exploring narrative you can feel a portion of that with proper focus. Imagine you with someone’s dead body in your hands. And you had to deal with the rest of your life like that. It’s horror. Just horror. Even worse horror if you actually did it. Now you probably wouldn’t, but that doesn’t change the horror on the other side, so you can imagine it just fine. If it helps erase recall of the events leading up to it. Or don’t and imagine you somehow did. It’s easier if you’ve found the part of yourself and everyone, who could’ve been a monster with the right trauma and wrong choices. As a child.
Could be a monster with the right trauma perhaps now. What it’d take? Being on the end of some war or hunger is where it you can find it usually.
I even think that when he is talking to himself, the "fuck Savannah" is honest, but then he remembers that he is being recorded, and the "I'm sorry Savannah" is an act for the camera/microphone. No way to know for sure of course but that felt so fake
@Mamuff where did you pull that "rule" from? A person can lie their ass of and still feel remorse. We all have a survival instinct to get out of a situation like this. It doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't remorseful because he lies to get out of this.
I don't know, I've watched a few of these interrogation videos, and he somehow strikes me as more redeemable than others. He may not be pure evil, but he fucked up massively.
someone who takes a life will always be wrong, but i wouldn’t say that everyone who murders is immediately selfish and immune to guilt, considering he confessed says a lot.
Can you blame a human being for snapping in the moment? You can definitely see he regrets it when he's crying, not saying it's justified but you gotta remember we're all humans, anger, fear, sadness all emotions that make you do stuff in the moment
@DCJanssen You can most definitely blame a human for murdering someone… That is not snapping, that is taking someone’s life. Yeah everyone does stuff in the moment but breaking someone’s neck, burning their body, and dumping it into a river is not “snapping in the moment”. That is an inhumane act of cruelty. He took her life and ruined the lives of her family members and friends. So yeah, you can definitely blame him. And yeah he regrets it, only because he got caught. He doesn’t regret killing her. Stop playing devils advocate.
@Miamish Why the hell would they want to speak to him? He killed a member of their family, burned her body, and dumped her in a river?? He only wants to speak to them so he can receive some sort of reconciliation for himself, not for them. If he cared so much about her family he would’ve at least had the decency to turn himself in immediately instead of allowing the family to keep wondering what happened to her. If he feels so bad about this, why does he only begin to show emotion after he confesses? He’s crying because he knows he’s going to prison, not because he feels bad for killing her. I don’t know why you are trying so hard to make it look like this guy feels bad, or is somewhat of a good person. You’re weird for doing that.
@j he knew they wouldn’t speak to him and he UNDERSTANDS that. How do you know that he only reached out for himself? You do NOT know him. He’s been traumatised and been feeling the guilt every single day. Also, yes he could’ve gone to the police but he was too scared they weren’t gonna listen to him. Again, I’m not justifying what he did AT ALL. But I know this man is not evil because I know him. And that’s it.
@Miamish Because why would he reach out to the family? What good would that do for them? If someone murdered one of my loved ones and then tried to reach out to me I would be hysterical. But you’re right though, I don’t know him personally, but I have a pretty good idea of how people like him operate. In the end he cared far more about saving face instead of doing the one thing he actually should’ve done for the family, which was turning himself in and giving them immediate closure. Also he could’ve plead guilty instead of dragging on the trial and further putting off the justice Savannah’s family deserved. I don’t know why he was scared of the police not listening to him because well it’s not like he could’ve said anything to defend himself since he did murder her.
@j yo I’m not even gonna bother explaining cos you’re never gonna be willing to understand. It’s annoying cos when people don’t reach out, we think they don’t care and when they do reach out it’s also a problem. People would never be happy. He reached out keeping in mind that they will not want to speak with him and he understood that. I don’t think you know how he operates lol. Anyone who knows him would tell you how nice of a guy he is and would’ve never expected him to do something like this. He did such a horrible thing and then panicked. He honestly could’ve gone on and pretended not to have done a single thing but confessed and gave the location of the body. All I can say is right now, he’s living every day with regret. People CAN change. Especially someone who never thought they’d ever get into something like this. That’s all I’m gonna say.
@j I agree but i mean I personally think he accidentally snapped her neck, he didn't think "I'm going to kill her" burning her body and covering up for himself is just basic survival instinct, it's self preservation, not that that's a good thing, you can blame him, but I don't think he had the intentions of murdering her
@j it's not that I'm saying it's good, it's definitely not, and I'm not trying to be devils advocate, but I just can't blame humans, we all say where sophisticated, but at the end of the day we're more animal like then animals
@Miamish You have cognitive dissonance. A person who would will relentlessly strangle someone to death as thet tried to escape is not nice person by definition.
Maybe, I could see him feeling some remorse though. The ramblings at the end seem genuine and there seemed to be some regret... "i'm sorry savannah", "she was nice to you" ...stuff like that. I do agree that concern for himself is probably the dominant concern. At the end the very first thing he said when he was by himself was , "Mom, I'm gonna die in jail" and the remorse came later.
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Joseph Berkeley2020-02-11 20:39:54 (edited 2020-02-11 20:41:00 )
Do you guys think he’s actually the one that decided to take things slow, or back off of the relationship as he states?
From everything I can see, it was probably the exact opposite, and Lee was a bit scorned... maybe even a lot scorned going into their final few interactions.
Lee is projecting a lot of his own insecurities on to a young woman that is no longer around to defend herself.
I feel like he was the druggie too. Or he got her into doing drugs with him, or used drugs to get with her. He seemed all too happy to tell them how much of a druggie she was.
Angie Baby Oh! So you think he may have been the one that was actually deep into the drug use and dragging her along with... I bet you’re right. It was all sort of a ploy to smear her character enough to make it seem logical that she’d just up and leave. I bet you are spot on there.
Suspicious Ned Flanders - She was young as hell at the time of her death, while he was much older and a superior at her job. Classic and obvious manipulation dynamics at play
Dante Goodman He was almost 30 right? Or he may have been 30 when it happened, and she was in her early 20s. He’s a chef, she’s a hostess... yeah definite power dynamic in play. Sadly for her, she was ultimately dealing with a little boy with little or no impulse control.
Angie Baby She was probably only speaking to him because she got drugs that way. She stood at his car window, chatting, for fifteen minutes before getting into his car, so there was SOME reason she was there of her own free will for so long before sh’t got ugly, right?
his words when he is alone paint a different picture "you could have just told her to leave you alone"...we will never know, but there was no reason to lie there, he was thinking aloud.
guachingman - I have no doubt that it’s likely the victim was going to make life difficult for Rodarte at his job. But damn. The worst outcome is he gets fired (probably just gets yelled at by management and reprimanded). Even if fired, its an easily replaceable job (there’s restaurants on every street). Getting fired sucks, but in the end its a minor hiccup. That’s why rodarte was in such mental anguish at the end. He threw his life away, and ruined so many lives, over a very minor issue that would have resolved itself in its own
@guachingman he knows the camera is there. He does have reason to lie and say some bullshit like that in hopes for some kind of defense in court. Now im not saying he is lying or not but just that he does have reasons for saying something like that.
Joseph Berkeley2020-02-12 07:38:14 (edited 2020-02-12 07:38:44 )
Dante Goodman My hypothesis here is pretty simple, Rodarte had almost no coping skills, and a fragile ego/ narcissism. When there was an emotional upheaval that directly challenged his ego, he became extremely distraught, the emotions were overwhelming and he acted on base impulse.
This is not to absolve him of agency, but to explain the sequence that led an otherwise sane person (albeit weakened by drug use, again no coping skills) to kill an innocent young lady.
Natalie gonzalez I missed that, thank you. But still, she did stand at his car window for awhile before getting in, so she must have had some sort of relationship with him. Do you have a timestamp of when they say no drugs were in her system? Or was the info elsewhere?
Joseph Berkeley - Agreed. And Rodarte hid his inner demons pretty well. It seems most everyone had a high opinion of him. He was a well hidden time bomb that unfortunately blew in the back of that car.
You can really see the Lee's character shine through when, despite being here due to his own actions that resulted in the death of an innocent girl, he still says "f*cking Savannah" and appears to try to place the blame on her. As if it were the victims fault he had decided to murder her. Pathetic and disgusting.
That plus the "F*cking stupid," Who says they were stupid for murdering? More like stupid for confessing/being seen/being caught. Anyone who really regretted murdering someone because murder is bad would see how terrible they are. Instead of stupid, they would see themselves as some sort of monster.
She was the reason he murdered her. Doesn’t make it justified and as I’m sure he’s finding out, the consequences of what he did aren’t worth keeping a job at Bonefish or whatever
Mm hm, it’s probably quite crass to say, but through his whole crying episode all I was thinking of to describe him is that he’s a p***y. He murdered this young lady and he’s going to cry about losing his life and the last time he’ll wear his chef outfit as well? I think he only regrets being caught which I feel from what you said about when he mentioned ‘f***** Savannah’ like he was angry.
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Alexander LI2021-12-17 23:55:55 (edited 2021-12-17 23:56:29 )
He also cried in great anguish saying was so sorry and how savannah was nice to him and he should have just told her to leave him alone. It is clear remorse and you choose to ignore it. Human emotions are complicated. Stop picking parts to fuel your own desire for cheap justice in the comment section.
@Alexander LI remorse DOES NOT excuse murder. He feels remorse and guilt, sure. That does not alleviate or excuse what he’s done. He needs to be punished for that.
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Alexander LI2021-12-18 09:50:25 (edited 2021-12-18 09:51:03 )
@Gentle Khajiit mmm. yeah. you're right that remorse does not excuse murder. All i was saying is that when we recognise a killer, we ought to also recognise their humanity. In turn, we accept that we all have the capacity to do evil. This makes us a lot more self aware and less prone to evil. (Having humanity does not mean you don't get punished! We don't only punish monsters!)
@Michael McGee what’re you talking about mate? He plead for that shit because he wouldn’t have wanted a harsh sentence. Of course it wasn’t self defence. I don’t know what you’re responding to, I was responding to someone else’s comment. I don’t believe a murder should be given any excuses - they should be punished.
@Gentle Khajiit okay true, maybe we can't murder like he did when his life is In a pretty normal position, rising career, etc. But we can certainly be absolutely screwed over by life, completely mind fckd to a point of delirium and desperation, and slip into dark places.
Same here... and this guy having a breakdown and talking to himself would have been more believable to be hearing demons than Nikolas in the other video
That's exactly the kind of thing I'm afraid of, let's not help guilty people! There is no way he would've gotten out of that with all the surveillance footage anyway
@Indy RAWR lawyer up and say you were trying to get her to a hospital because she wasa trippin on heroin and yoi feared she might overdose(helos explain the door kicks)..she tried to jump out, so you gave up and you let her out.
@@Frostydei Just tell them that at [convenient time frame] you had just committed the mistake of saying "Hi" when we randomly crossed paths at [convenient location] and how you had to spend the next 5 hours listening to a spiel on how absolutely awesome and life changer "The Ego and its Own" by Max Stirner is. Or tell them you saw me spending 5 hours trying to walk my cat as it if were a dog. Either one will do.
Had he not talked to the cops he’d probably be free. Even with the surveillance footage they would never have found the body. Crazy to think how many have gotten away with similar things.
Ha haaaaa! My best friend has been warned-she May have to give an interview in front of Book Shelf Green screen & shes gonna have to pull it the F together. 😝🤣
@Justin C I mean: The last time I was in the US is roughly 13 years ago. There's no way I had anything to do with this but the way she plays on emotions makes me want to confess.
I didn't like the female interrogator's style at all. She was too emotional for an interrogation. The interrogation should not be a "please confess to me or else I will cry". It should have an analytical and psychological strategy.
@Kaya Karakaya One might argue the emotional pleading is very effective in this scenario in terms of increasing the pressure. Particularly because he'd killed a woman who might've pleaded for her life.
You say interrogations have to be analytical and psychological. But the female interrogator IS being analytical and is using psychology theory to weaken his state of mind. It's not right to assume she's not calm internally when she is clearly communicating to her partner to back off on several occassions (by tapping him with her foot). Her approach is very much a strategy they chose to use on this guy specifically because they've determined he's weak to it. If they had a psychopath in front of them they wouldn't go that route.
@Kaya Karakaya Maybe it works but I found it annoying as hell as well. I was postponing getting some food from the kitchen because I was too lazy but instantly got up and went for it.
Hsi body language might be a sign too. He seemed to tense up during the confrontation of her questions, I think someone who is genuinely innocent might speak back a lot more against her persistence. One would think
@Kaya Karakaya "I didn't like The female interrogator Style" What is that Shopping in Wallmart? This people learn psychology and doing Advanced Training as interrogations,There is no such thing as "Style" The acting They do on certain levels is crucial for a confrontation with a Suspect,it's all Based on the Cooperation and how they think the best approach with every person should be. and I really Think she timed it perfectly while the male interrogator pressured him to admit and tell them the truth,and she played it very well using the Mom and Daughter subject Reference :)
Alblooshi that just proves how smart her strategy really was. she knew he was weak and used emotional tactics to get him to cave. it wasnt luck, she knew exactly what to do.
She was straight begging him. If it were me it would immediately take me out of the interrogation. If a detective was literally begging and pleading with you to give a confession if feel like it would take most people out of the situation
I do feel like they played a game of Good Cop, Hysterical Mom Cop. But you can tell it was a deliberate tactic, which is what I watch these videos for. The strategies on both sides.
Super Duper mommy issues alert loooool. Regardless, that was the point. That was an intentional tactic. Calmly asking questions and stating facts clearly doesn’t always work. I would find that incredibly easy to resist, but seeing real human pain would shake me.
Yeah and i think that helps with getting his confession. He was pretty uncomfortable with her tactics and it helped crack him open. Inteerogations arent meant to be a talk between two friends, its all about creating a character and strategy according to the suspect's demeanor.
Super Duper to be fair they already had sufficient evidence that he was lying. He claimed she stepped out of his car into a green SUV and it drove off; While security cameras never saw her leave or saw said green SUV.
They could have had waited a bit longer and had him dig more lies before jumping on him like that, she seemed way too eager to. But I mean they got their confession didn’t they?
Maybe they had information we don’t and know he’s a sucker for motherly love so she went that route and begged him to be a good person for her mother’s sake. Or she just assumed he held himself in high regard when it came to morals so she just thought begging would work. I’ve literally never seen this before so it annoyed and took my off guard but what do I know? I’m just a 20 something nerd eating tacos watching this at 2 am.
Super Duper normally yes, but since they’re pressed on time looking for a missing person that they know Lee had information on, the begging and emotional tactic clearly gets to him
SiisKolkytEuroo I had the same reaction first pass, but then, they’re the professionals and they got a confession so I’m not certain I’m in a position to judge!
Shame on the snowflakes for reporting this channel. If you don't like it, don't watch. This was the only yt channel when there is a new video I stop everything I'm doing to watch it. Legend!
the female detective is so annoying. if that were me, even if guilty, i'd go 'shut up, shut up, shut up'!
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K C2020-02-11 21:06:34 (edited 2020-02-12 10:49:30 )
When "Jim" mentions short and concise responses I thought of what Jim Clemente (FBI agent who did a WIRED tradecraft video) said, "When you're telling facts, you simply have to state them. When you're telling a lie, you have to convince the person that what you are about to say is true."
@Riceracm my point is it's pretty weird to ask for a link to a documentary someone mentioned when you have all the info you need to find it on your own.
LMFAO!!!! Quite a few of the comments were funny and gave me a chuckle but this one for some reason made me laugh so hard I woke up my fiance and our baby and she's pissed... So I blame you for that lol (oh well)... (It was still funny as fuck and I had a hard time trying to tell her cuz I'm laughing so damn hard) LMFAO!!!!
OK, THIS guys clearly lying, lmao, not saying he is being truthful. BUT I have had self inflicted neck wounds personally. I dont mind telling people idk. So that actually wasn't unbelievable to me in a different situation. But you know, this guy didn't do that. I have serious mental illness, this guy is Mr. Cool.
No sympathy for the “human” crying saying “I’m gonna die in jail” when a girl that was only 21 was getting ready for work and had no idea she would live her last terrifying moments that day.
Women should start dating good man? There are markers in everyone's personality but girls always fell for evil man. Where is the so called women intuition ? Most girls murdered are one way or another ironically involved with evil man.
@The Furious Killers people tend to be manipulative to others who cant immediately pick up the behavior. also some men are genuinely crazy and will go out of their way even when a woman decides to stay away.
@sunny d Yeh i believe as an adult we are responsible for our own security, what people we chose to be with. There are markers in personalities which yells things. I am not directly blaming her but she chose to be with a guy like him. And please murder is not new thing. Its been done since dawn of human
@The Furious Killers This may be news to you, but shitty people don’t tend to announce that they’re shitty when getting into relationships. Abusers and the like are often master manipulators, and one of the hallmarks of a manipulator is that they know how to outwardly present themselves so they come across as likeable and charming - thus often avoid suspicion from the people around them. It was said near the beginning of the video that Lee Rodarte was regarded as a popular, charming, and charismatic individual. We weren’t given any indication that Rodarte had behaved violently towards Savannah Gold prior to her murder, so how the hell was she supposed to know what he was capable of doing? People aren’t mind-readers, you know.
The only one to blame for the murder of that poor girl is the murderer himself. Pushing the guilt unto the victim is such an incredibly fucked up thing to do.
@The Furious Killers I never said we don't choose who to hang out with. But that doesn't mean being killed was justified. He committed a crime, I agree she could have put herself in a safer situation. But that doesn't mean she had any fault in it. I think you want to hold people responsible for consequences but fail to understand that most people don't expect to be killed in most situations.
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Anthony Donelli2021-05-30 14:33:04 (edited 2021-05-30 14:52:03 )
I feel like a terrible person and I’ve been pondering this for the past 10-15 minutes but, for some reason, I did feel some sympathy for the dude at the end.
Now, I 100% think he deserves whatever time he got in prison and I would never fight for him but there’s something about the distress that he’ll never be free again and, more significantly, that there’s nothing he can do. He’s regretting everything that he did and he wishes he could go back and just make a different decision but, unfortunately for him and Savannah, he can’t. I think it’s because I’m tryna put myself in his shoes and although I can’t fully relate to his situation, I can tell the distress he’s in is absolutely terrible. That and the fact that he not only expressed regret for his own actions but also expresses regret for Savannah’s sake (when he “apologizes” to Savannah) makes me somewhat sympathetic.
Obviously though, I feel much worse for Savannah as, like you said, she was a very young and apparently (as Lee mentioned at the end) nice girl with loads of potential and innocence (at least as far as we know).
Idk though, I just wanted to express my feelings because they were the opposite of yours and I thought it was interesting at the very least
Edit: I don’t know why I said this before but I actually don’t feel like a terrible person because of the way I feel. I trust myself and actually completely defend my feelings. Don’t know why I said “I feel like terrible person”
@HR Mariel I’m not saying anything of significance but he actually just said earlier in the thread that his sister was murdered
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Anthony Donelli2021-05-30 14:40:44 (edited 2021-05-30 14:42:29 )
@The Furious Killers Just read this thread and I just wanted to let you know that I understand where you’re coming from and I actually agree with you to some extent.
I understand that you’re blaming Savannah and Lee and not just Savannah as other commenters are saying you are. I just wanted to let you know that there is someone else that understands you’re level of nuance. I’m sorry for what happened to your sister and I wish you a great rest of your day.
@Anthony Donelli its understandable to sympathyse with people. He felt scared and wanted to keep his job and not have his life ruined. Thats a understandable fear. He cried cause he knew what was coming and honestly it was probbaly just a heat of the moment thing. I guarantee if he could he would have changed it if he could have. I dont think hes a horrible person. I think hes a guy who got scared and did something terrible.
@The Furious Killers You don't see the point do you? They choose to be with the person but they didn't know that they are manipulative and narcissists. It's not easy to tell those kinds of people and you should not blame the victim for choosing to be with the guy. Also, you can choose to leave an abusive relationship but in this case, the guy had to end her life before that decision could be made. He could have talked it out, move on, find someone else, and etc. But no. He chose to kill her and killing, on it's own, is the worst thing to be ever done to another human being.
@The Furious Killers Well, personally I don’t agree with all of that. The death penalty is a whole different conversation which I don’t usually have much of an opinion on. I just agree that Savannah does hold at least some kind of accountability. Lee holds the vast majority of blame in my eyes but yeah, idk.
@The Furious Killers So your blaming women for being murdered because they don't Magically know the person they are with. Married people find out they are married to murderes. Just because someone choses to date someone doesn't mean they know exactly who they are because people can hide that and no there are not always markers we aren't all psychologists
The "could have just told her to leave you alone" part makes me think that the part where he said she was blackmailing him might be true, although of course he shouldn't have dated someone from the job to begin with.
@Delightful she brought it on herself hanging out with a guy almost 10 years older doing hard drugs. Then trying to get him fired. She brought it on herself
@The Furious Killers Another note, it is very common with the promiscuity of modern women (and men, though that is usually less relevant) and the feminist ideology in modern society, they aren't taught to fear reasonable dangers to their person, it doesn't help that few women seem to ever get into the topic of being easily overpowered by men unless it has happened to them already. (which is usually at the point where crime took place) The lack of fear when it comes to the possibility of demonstrably evil men, or the jading of feeling over wicked acting men is becoming a more common problem. And a lot of women will also make irrational decisions, especially after they've had sex with a guy, increasing the chance of them ignoring or not recognizing red flags. (and taking drugs only compounds that problem) Thing too is that she was clearly not all that blameless in circumstance even in being a victim, (because of all the association and things she likely took with him) and sometimes in cases like this they get what they deserve even with the criminal being a scumbag. Not that we shouldn't try to avoid it as much as possible but its a bit like gun safety, usually nobody (undeservingly) gets hurt or dies unless multiple rules for it are broken.
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Anthony Donelli2021-05-31 03:20:01 (edited 2021-05-31 03:21:24 )
@Sage Wisdom If you read the edit on my comment, you would know that I actually wasn’t considering if I was a “terrible person” or not. That’s how I know you didn’t read my full comment. You should read the full comment if you’re going to call someone a clown; you should also thoroughly think something through before you generate a strong opinion on something (in other words, like most commenters in this thread, assuming you have a similar viewpoint as the original comment, you are missing a whole lot of nuance).
Anyway, like I started this comment off, I fully stand behind my feelings because I realize that they are nuanced, justifiably empathetic, and understanding.
@The Furious Killers I don’t think we can predict evil acts. Woman like bad boys is true but we don’t know if someone is a murderer. Woman especially young put themselves in very bad situations and we do have to take responsibility for ourselves. As a young girl, 13 or so I never snuck out of my parents home to meet “ friends.” A 14 just stabbed a young girl 114 times. Horrible and I am not victim blaming BUT why did she meet him at 1:00am in the woods. REALLY?! So naive. RIP these young beautiful girls with a life ahead of them.
@Bowdy Up Which parts of my comments were misspelled or malformed? It is rather telling that you’d lie about my sentence structure rather than address the content.
@Bowdy Up You’re still lying about me and my beliefs in order to avoid addressing the actual issue. You’re welcome to “get the last word” if you want; I won’t reply again unless you actually address the issue. *All I ask is you think about why you believe something you cannot defend.*
> Lee Rodarte, the man charged with killing the 21-year-old in 2017, was convicted to 40 years in prison on March 11, 2021.
> According to Action News Jax reports, Lee Rodarte Jr., 31, received his sentence on March 11, nearly three years after he was charged with killing Gold, with whom he worked at a Bonefish Grill in Mandarin. In February, Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.
> Rodarte appeared virtually before 4th Circuit Court Judge Jeb Branham to file the plea agreement made with prosecutors.
> Action News Jax was published in 2019 when Rodarte tried to claim self-defense 2019. His claim was later denied.
> Rodarte was also charged with proof tampering and abusing a body, but those charges were dropped as part of his plea agreement.
> Prosecutors and the defense negotiated a sentence of 40 years in prison with credit for time served.
Detective: "So how do you know Savannah?" Rodarte: "So around 13.7 billion years ago, everything we know of was an infinitesimally small singularity, a point of infinite denseness and infinite heat. Then, explosive expansion began..."
@Calior Bustarika Thank you! Yes I feel better. Glad it's over. 👍🏻👍🏻🙏 Much love from Colin in Wales, on a sunny Thursday morning. Hope you have a great day ❤🙏
seeing the way that message was phrased and the number of spelling mistakes, made it seem that her phone was hacked or someone got a hold of her phone. I don't even personally know Savannah, but I definitely felt something was wrong with those texts.
People would know if a text was faked from my phone. I spell every word out and use punctuation. I don't shortcut words though sometimes I am tempted. So if you type "Ur nice", definitely fake as I am going to spell the correct version of the your, you're, and you are.
@Madtroll My point, and it was lost on you, was he was pointing out typo/spelling mistakes as the reason why the parents were thinking it wasn't her. Why they thought it wasn't her was not pointed out in the video. Maybe she writes in abreviations mostly and uses lots of abbreviations, so don't be so pedantic.
To be fair, if she did not have a bad relationship with her parents and usually didn't make such spelling mistakes there is legitimately no way for her to have written those texts. "Running away with my boyfriend" without ever having mentioned him is already severely out of character for most people. Texting instead of calling for such dramatic action etc.
Too bad they didn’t know when something was wrong when she started doing heavy ass drugs. Too bad it takes a terribly written text message that she’s running away to figure out somethings wrong.
It started when we first laid eyes on each other through the chef window at the bonefish. She was on day one and I was not a manager yet. I asked her what her favorite food was and she said spaghetti. I told her that's my favorite food too.....you see detective savannah and I come from similar lives...
ive watched a lot of these completely out of nowhere and unjustified at all murder interviews and they alllwaayyys give their life story. wonder what thats about.
After watching these videos I've learned, if you're in an interrogation, they need something from you, do not give it to them. no matter what, dont say anything except to ask for a coke.
PRECISELY!!! If they had the evidence they needed to nail u, they wouldnt be begging for u to confess. Which brings me to this female detective....like REALLY??? Is she actually BEGGING him to talk??? CRYING??? Shes auditioning for best actress in an urban drama. 🤦
@Joe Public dude calm down. I was having a conversation with someone else. And I can have an opinion last time I checked. I personally could care less about her method or whether or not it worked.
@Ian Moone What about all those innocent people that have been in police interrogation rooms? Your comment makes no sense. Innocent people make themselves look guilty all the time and that occasionally leads to their arrest. No-one, even the most innocent person in the world, should talk to the police without a lawyer present.
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Pal Cockrum2020-12-31 00:53:15 (edited 2020-12-31 16:06:09 )
I guess if you're a criminal and killed someone that's probably your best move, how about don't end up in a interrogation room cause you've done something that might put you in jail for life or on death row
@Slime ninja lots of innocent people get interrogated, and many get convicted. If you are innocent, state your innocence firmly, ask for a lawyer, then say nothing more.
Of course! Even if obviously and completely innocent, speak only one word. Lawyer. Even if it’s you’re own loved one missing, you can get a layer Very very quickly, speak to police only through your lawyer. There are a LOT of innocent people rotting in prison on account of law enforcement and prosecutors twisting their words around.
@Filip Murzea Extremely naive of you to fail to understand that innocent people often get interrogated and many times they also end up saying something that can be incriminating. There is literally no good reason to talk to the police without a lawyer and I hope everyone ignores people that are trying to give the police an easier time convicting innocent people.
Supposedly, as dumb as this sounds, it was all because Lee and Savannah were in an intimate relationship of some sorts which is strictly against policy at the BoneFishGrill. Lee was a manager if I'm remembering right and Savannah was not. So to save his job he killed her. Yeah Lee is a real genius, kill savannah to save your job and get caught and throw away both the job and 40 years of freedom
@DE VANOV Did you know scientists have found people that are always Grammer checking people on social media are pretty much "jerks." If ya don't believe me you should look it it up. This is the you tube comment section. Get a life.
@John Koepke It has been shown that the single most effective way of silencing so-called "grammar Nazis" is to demonstrate consistently correct grammar. As such demonstration greatly facilitates the communication of ideas, exercising correct grammar is of inestimably great benefit principally to the "speaker" having used it to transmit with reasonable exactness his intent, and secondarily to the "audience" for the precision of their consequent interpretation.
Shunning good grammar is among the surest and most readily observed indices that the speaker has not only elected to forego every opportunity for self-improvement and advance, but also that he has contempt for himself and for others; the converse is likewise true: striving for good grammar is among the most easily noted proofs that the speaker is both able and willing to improve himself and his welfare by contributing positively to the community of which he is part.
For better or for worse, the choice is nevertheless yours to make.
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C Glenn2020-12-30 21:15:03 (edited 2020-12-30 21:17:19 )
hahaha. Grammar Nazi aside, "in his defense", I don't think the Adderall really helped him too much, lol. Also, how nice she gets clean and he takes her to get beers. What a gem. No wonder he was so "popular".
@Corazon del Oro Wait now! “heart of the Au” It dont matter none that we ain’t talkin’ right an’ everthang.... Science dudes dun founded out that it’s all BS an’ that even if you ain’t tooken no dope in a bit - you still smart ...an’ everthang .... it’s science dude ..... as in Science ya know .....math an’ s*#t .....Kwaysions!..... nuff said!!
@Jessicajanedoe hahaha maybe! My experience with adderall/adhd is that it gets you in your head and you don't talk as much. But I don't know how it affects those w/o ADHD who take it, and I've never been interrogated so I don't know! lol/ These comments give me life hahahaha
@Mayor of Hueco Mundo Adderall is sometimes prescribed for impulse control, and the murder seemed impulsive. I dont think its responsible for what he did.
@CaseSheep Afraid I must correct you, as lee has not acquired amphetamine from me at any point in our lives so Lee never tooketh my adderall therefore your use of the word "thy" is incorrect.
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Aisle of View2022-03-18 22:50:27 (edited 2022-03-18 23:00:12 )
90 min without even anything to read and those fluorescent lights. Maybe he could have talked to the guy standing in the corner with the video recorder. Det Bo Tie.
Ja C2020-08-01 22:49:00 (edited 2020-08-01 22:50:55 )
@Bret Z and risk the cops latching onto something circumstantial and tunnel visioning on you? It's happened before, it'll happen again. Investigations where the leads dry up, they'll start doubling down on what they already have access to, and let's not even begin with certain times investigators have already settled on a suspect and just ignores evidence pointing towards someone else. This is potentially years of your life tied up in legal proceedings, name and reputation being dragged through the mud, and if you become that small percentage of wrongly accused or incompetent police work, you pretty much suffer for the rest of your life.
Uhm the coca cola guy was innocent. And usually when crimes are committed in the heat of the moment the perpetrator mostly likely is overwhelmed with guilt and very vulnerable whereas a cold blooded killer has no remorse and ready to do anything save their ass
Ye lot in America are lucky. Here in Ireland you don't get a lawyer in the room with you when you're been questioned. I got arrested before, asked for a lawyer. The lawyer came and said to me sure just answer the cops questions. I shit you not.
lolololol Jeff got the Coca Cola and zipped it . The cop was like " you don't deserve that coke and was about to throw it in the trash , then cop picks up the coke thats almost half full realizes this and Jeff says" Can I finish my coca cola??"....then the cop.gives it right back to him like his little bitch LMAO
@Matt It was serious. Importing drugs, intent to supply and possession of ammunition (a big charge here). Lawyers here are shit. Infact most of them want you to get charged because it's just more money for them.
@Bret Z Nope, it can never be better to talk to the cops or argue with them. Whether it's on the street, in your car, or in an interrogation room. Nothing will be up to them anyways. The cops only goal is to strengthen the prosecution, if you're talking to anyone it's a jury through your lawyer or the prosecutor, through your lawyer. The absolute best, and rare, case scenario when talking to the cops, is you simply don't screw yourself over saying something stupid. There's no scenario where it helps you.
Obviously I'm glad this guy didn't ask for a lawyer and incriminated himself, but regardless of guilt or not... ALWAYS get a lawyer, don't say shit. Even if you're innocent you could say something they'll latch on to and justify them harassing you for years if they have no other leads.
I dont see why you're confused nor why people agreed with this comment. Lee wasn't expecting to be accused of being involved with savanna's disappearance. Of course he wouldnt have known to get a lawyer at the get-go. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
And in the same time, it encourage people made these kind of video which show disturbing contents and thus they have to focus 100% on quality and only able to earn money from alternative party. No annoying ads or clickbait
There is tons of other stuff on their patreon still. I subbed there right after they stopped making content. It was a good few days worth of binge watching for five bucks though. I asked if they would be making more and they kindly responded saying it would all be on YouTube from now on and I should unsubscribe from Patreon. This was about a year ago. This channel could be raking in millions easy if they would just start again.
When i first started watching him a couple years ago he only had around 100k subs, and now he has 4.5 million, I've never seen a channel grow this fast(totally deserved too). It also seemed like YouTube was randomly stifling him back then also because he's had 3 or 4 great videos removed.
@BayAreaNewMan it just takes them a really long time to make. If you're interested watch him on patreon, I think it's only a dollar and he had a lot more videos on there. He puts the more graphic ones there I believe so he doesn't get copyright strikes
Can I rent that video camera that shot the grainy images of Lee in the parking lot in the processes of kidnapping, I need it for my video's of the Big Foot expedition that is in the planning ...Hah Her Hah ha
@_KHUSHI _ It recognized his car. His best bet would have been to say his car was stolen and he wasn't driving. Still a long shot, but a better defense than what he's going with now.
@82ndAbnVet his best bet was to stick with his original story, they didn't have matching plates all they had was a similar looking car of the same model. It literally could've been anybody, it's an extremely popular car a good lawyer would've had him out of there
@Zamerus he probably was the kitchen manager, not floor or GM. Corporate chains are different than your main st mom n pop, so he may actually not have been privy to that info
@Let Me Catch You Slippin I think you underestimate the job unfairly ... Dealing with that many personalities (servers etc) and customers and making the night run smoothly is no easy task...
@n64p3 there were 2 videos. 1 in the parking lot that had his car and her car on camera(video was not shown) and then one at the intersection near the lights which captured his car again.
@82ndAbnVet That would definitely be a long shot. Why would Savannah talk to the guy who stole his car for fourteen minutes before getting in the back seat?
I mean in the restraint I work In we have managers in kitchen. Head chef sous chef and then one other junior sous chef and they wouldn’t know where any cameras or tills or anything like the such. The front of house managers are in control of that where I work. Not sure how it works at other places 👍
@Let Me Catch You Slippin their are plenty smart restaurant managers. This one just isn't. Even a dumb restaurant manager knows where the cameras are, because you see them all the time when your in the office. He most likely didn't consider them because he did this out of passion.
He's the executive chef, too, not some pissant manager. That means he does the food cost, inventory, all ordering, hiring and firing responsibilities, training and instituting a training program others can follow. He would absolutely be privy to the knowledge of cameras, I just think he underestimated the camera's reach and also that he would be a suspect. They don't check cameras, ever, unless there's a problem.
@Let Me Catch You Slippin not sure if this is sarcastic or not but I love having a diverse group of friends that bring diff career perspectives to the table so we can talk about fun new things rather than medicine all day. anyways hope you grow up. it's 2021. Happy New Years.
Dude!! ON ADDERALL AND HAVE TO SIT IN AN INTERROGATION ROOM ALONE FOR 90 min and try to act ok?!! MY GOODNESS I WOULD BE ROCKING BACK AND FORTH! LICKING MY LIPS, FREAKING OUT!! ID ALSO BE ON EDGE AND PE PISSEDBOFF AND AGITATED FROM SAID DRUG. BAD DAY TO BE ON AN ADDERALL MY FRIEND!!! WOW!
My great great grandparents first came to America in 1613 from Holland, arriving in the port of New York which at that time was known as New Amsterdam...
...the heroine capital of the world, which is really where it all started. Se heroine is derived from a plant called poppy. This grows in arid climates
24:20 I definitely think that Lee loosened up a bit when the detective said "one day when you have kids". This potentially implies that the suspect will NOT be spending his life behind bars, giving him hope and therefore relaxing him a bit. Very well done by the investigator if it was intentional.
There are plenty of men who killed people (sometimes multiple, but that’s outside of the US), went to jail, got out and had kids (or had kids while in jail through visitations).
Well i guess what’d happen to him is what he said in his video “The interrogation of Stephanie Lazarus” where he says: “you can know all the rules of the book, but when put in a situation of a crime you committed, fear will overcome you.”
@sirpsychosexy What if they got a new narrator to narrate the confession of this narrator but while in the soundbooth we hear police bursting in to arrest him and after a moment a new narrator is heard and he introduces himself and proceeds to narrate both narrator interrogations. Later he's convicted of...
@Paul Nel the narrator is extremely educated in interrogation tactics and criminal psychology so he would be able to lie his way through an interrogation undetected
@Melvin Pepperdash Whomever he is he is perfect for this He's to the direct & to the point, overall pleasant,and is firm yet easy to follow. If that makes sense lol
The narrator on this channel is just a narrator, there is a whole team behind these videos doing research and making the script. Plus, if any of you watched Stephanie Lazarus case even the most knowledgeable on the interrogation tactics can behave in weird manners when on the other side of the inspection
How is it I take a picture and my camera shows me every single zit, pimple, blackhead, pore, boil, defect and flaw I've had since BIRTH, yet these businesses have cameras that look like they're filming through a kaleidoscope by an early 2000's Motorola Razor?
People talking crap about the female interrogators pleading with him but fail to realize that they rehearsed how they were going to interrogate him (as mentioned in the video). They went over which cop would play which role, as is the case with all interrogations. She was appealing to his "human" side while the other was more straight forward. This mix of the two interrogation styles is clearly what got the confession. Props to both of these detectives.
Agreed, a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about are being pretty misogynistic and calling her a bad interrogator, but failing to realize that they got the confession through their teamwork!
It was difficult to watch because I felt like I had to confess something. If this team was interrogating me, I'd definitely break down and tell them everything. They were so coordinated and ruthless! She did a greatjob at wearing him down and reading the situation.
agree. the way she acted was supposed to make you feel uncomfortable and stressed. her lines were cheesy sometimes but i doubt that mattered in the moment...but of course, people seeing a woman act emotional?!? she must be totally incompetent!
@revenevan11 Right! And also these are TRAINED professionals. Their job is to get a confession through different interrogation methods, kinda like actors and psychologists mixed in one. They would never let her stay there if her behavior was going to mess with the confession. Plus she didn’t plead the whole time, she chose her moments when she knew it was most affective.
@VegiemisterFTW I think it worked pretty excellently. The pleading wasn’t necessarily to get the confession then and there, it was to make him more prone to changing his story.
@stoopid apples yea i can kinda agree but personally if i was being pleaded to like that, even after everything i’ve already told them, it would remind me that i need to stfu immediately.
@VegiemisterFTW i bet you look at the stanford prison experiment and similar well known experiments and go "i wouldnt act like that!". people like you are so funny lol
@Son yes because that masterfully crafted experiment carried out by research scientists is super comparable to this hastily put together interrogation performance.
@VegiemisterFTW yeah but you're also ignoring that the timing of her pleading comes right around when he is caught on a lie. The trap was 100% successful. He was being hit on an emotional level, but he cant just lock up. He's been targeted with lying so he needed something else. That's a ton of pressure, all while being begged and pleaded with to give up where she is. Even if you hold out, how does that look to a jury? It looks like you were beat on the fact of lying, and now you shut down. You would look horrible.
@Wes Hannum I've been in a situation like that. Granted i didn't murder anyone, but when someone starts acting hysterical with no build up it comes off as fake, and it made me even more closed off. I know it's an act and to me it feels like you're in complete control of your emotions. but then again I didn't murder anyone and every person is different so, good job to both of these detectives.
@VegiemisterFTW Are you calling the Stanford prison experiment a "masterfully experiment carried out by research scientists"? Because this experiment was criticized for many, many reasons and probably doesn't deserve this praise.
@Paz the Pole if a male interrogator broke down in tears and begged we’d be laughing at him and saying he’s a bad actor. Why is it different becaus4 she’s female?
@Pathetic because men in the comments started to use this as an a excuse to tear her down and say that women are too “emotional” it turned misogynistic because they made it that way
@Wes Hannum never said the plan/script wasn’t well executed, just that it was lousily written. there are many things that would pull on my emotions more successfully than being pleaded to by someone ik is trying to lock me up. that’s the last i’m gonna say on this. nothing against the two detectives, i’m just not fond of pleading in general. especially when it’s towards a criminal/an adversary.
Damn...he killed her in 2017 and only got sentenced now....40 years in prison is a long time and if he lives the world is gonna be completely different... it's crazy to think about that
thanks kind stranger... i started watching this over a year old video yesterday and you posted the answer to the question i eventually would have while i slept. we are totally connected in a weird way.
wow, you can be sentenced to 40 years in America? That’s crazy! A single murder would be 15 years here in Germany, unless the judge comes to the conclusion it was especially gruesome or that there is no reason to believe you’ll stop murdering after that time. Then the sentence can be longer, but that’s more of an exception.
@MoonShadeStuff Man kann in Amerika auch sein ganze Leben weggesperrt werden, oder auch zu Tode verurteilt, dagegen ist Deutschland die reinste Kuscheljustiz, wo Steuerhinterzieher härter bestraft werden wie Mörder.
@COLDSTEEL productions Naja, da bin ich auch ganz froh drum, also dass es bei unserem Justizsystem nicht primär um Rache geht, um "eye for an eye" oder darum Privatgefängnisse zu füllen und den Investoren Geld zu verschaffen, sondern um Rehabilitation von Tätern und einer möglichen Wiedereingliederung in die Gesellschaft. Da passt das Zitat ganz gut: "A society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens but by how it treats its criminals."
@COLDSTEEL productions Erzähl doch bitte nicht so einen Stuss. Mörder erhalten grundsätzlich die lebenslange Freiheitsstrafe, die hat für Steuerhinterziehung noch niemand bekommen. Da ist die Höchststrafe auch nur 5 Jahre, in extremen Fällen 10 Jahre (die bis heute auch noch nie ausgesprochen wurden).
Dass man ab 15 Jahren bei einer lebenslangen Freiheitsstrafe frei kommen kann, ist auch nicht in Stein gemeißelt. Diese Möglichkeit gebietet aber die in unserer Verfassung festgehaltene Menschenwürde, die gilt nämlich auch für Täter. Nicht selten dauert es länger oder es gibt, in gravierenden Fällen, anschließende Sicherungsverwahrung.
Und man kann sich auch fragen, ob eine tatsächliche lebenslange Freiheitsstrafe (bis zum Tod) sinnvoll ist oder ob man nach 15-20 Jahren nicht als völlig neuer Mensch aus dem Gefängnis kommt und stattdessen einen Dienst an der Gesellschaft leistet. Härtere Strafe schrecken niemanden ab und sie bringen die Opfer auch nicht zurück. Der Einzige, der damit bedient ist, ist der Bürger, der sich in seinen Rachegedanken etwas mehr bestätigt fühlt.
@COLDSTEEL productions es ist ganz einfach, der Erfolg gibt uns recht. Schau wie viele Probleme die USA haben mit ihrem Justizsystem aus Härte ohne Wiedereingliederung und Privatgefängnissen und schau wie wenig Probleme wir im Vergleich haben. Gibt ne Rückfallquote entlassener Gefangener, Vergleiche da mal USA und Deutschland. Philosophieren über die besten Ansätze kann man viel, was zählt sind die Fakten.
Btw wäre gut wenn du Leute nicht gleich beleidigst wenn die eine andere Meinung haben.
@COLDSTEEL productions Einen sehr wichtigen Aspekt habe ich schon genannt. Im Gegensatz zu Deutschland gibt es in den USA eine extrem hohe Gefangenenquote (relativ zu der Bevölkerungszahl) und eine extrem hohe Quote an Entlassenen Straftätern die Rückfällig werden. Teilweise weil es in Deutschland so etwas gibt wie Programme die Gefangenen vor und nach der Entlassung helfen ein normales Leben aufzubauen, teilweise weil es in den USA durch die Privatgefängnisse monetäre Interessen gibt, Gefangene so lange wie möglich im Gefängnis zu halten und nicht zu rehabilitieren, sodass sie nach der Entlassung möglichst bald wieder im Gefängnis landen und die Investoren Kohle kriegen. Das heißt übrigens nicht dass da weniger Steuergelder drauf gehen da immer noch jemand für die Gefangenen zahlen muss UND das Gefängnis muss Profit machen. Du kannst dir vorstellen, die Steuerlast in den USA zur Unterbringung so vieler Gegangener ist enorm. Das ganze hat System und läuft ziemlich korrupt ab, da gibt es Richter die den Gefängnissen zuarbeiten und härtere Strafen verhängen bzw Leute wegen Kleinigkeiten einbuchten.
Dann hat natürlich die USA ebenfalls viel größere Probleme mit Verbrechen als das in Deutschland der Fall ist, die härteren Strafen haben in der Praxis keine abschreckende Wirkung. Es gibt aber noch weitere Aspekte, such auf YouTube am besten nach „germany low crime, clean prisons, lessons for America“. Die haben da noch ein paar Zahlen zusammen getragen die interessant sein dürften. Ein Blick in ein Beitrag von John Oliver lohnt auch „John Oliver prison“. Kann leider nicht direkt verlinken da YouTube sonst den Kommentar als Spam löscht.
@MoonShadeStuff I'm shocked murder isn't an automatic life sentence. I mean you took a life, seems fair to take the killers life, albeit by imprisonment rather than execution.
It said with time served, does that mean he got out on his court date or that time just counted toward his 40 years? Cause I know when they say your sentencing the normally always suspend some. Wondering if he got time served
@SarcyseTiranin the system in Germany is built around the idea of rehabilitation rather than revenge / eye for an eye. There is a good video explaining it better called “Germany, low crime, clean prisons, lessons for America” that goes into that philosophy and shows some numbers that I think show it’s a successful system.
I don’t want to act like we’re the “best”, there are other countries in Europe that have similar systems and of course all systems have their problems.
However, when someone is actually deemed “beyond redemption” that person can still be locked up indefinitely.
@MoonShadeStuff I'm not going to say American criminal law is better or worse than Germany, I don't know enough about your country to form a informed opinion. I simply believe that the murdered are owed vengeance from society in the form of capital punishment of their murderer. I think that most murdered people would desire retributive justice and are owed it.
@SarcyseTiranin it's a valid point of view. The way I see it, it's a difference in culture, which in turn defines the primary goal of our different justice systems. Nobody is wrong or right, you can only look at the outcomes and ask, is this the outcome we really wanted to achieve with this system.
From my point of view, in general (not murder specifically), it's better to have less harsh sentences, but give the people opportunities and programs that help them become a functioning member of society once they served their sentence. It might not be the point of view of the victims but really 15 years is a reasonable amount of punishment, people probably don't realize what it does to a person if you take 15 years of their life away from them. I think society as a whole doesn't profit all that much from unreasonably long and harsh sentences. Every day they are imprisoned it costs us money and I'd rather have people be punished and then come back on their feet and contribute to society and the economy again.
On the notion of capital punishment, I'm glad we don't have that in our system at all. I believe a society shouldn't kill people as a form of punishment. People, even the worst ones, have human rights. And in our constitution, article 2 it says: "Every person shall have the right to life and physical integrity."
@COLDSTEEL productions Die Zahl 15 wirkt für sich alleine ohne Relation sehr klein. Aber die durchscnittliche Lebenserwartung eine Mannes in Deutschland ist aktuell 78,9 Jahre. 15 Jahre Strafvollzug machen also 25% des gesamten Lebens aus. Nehmen wir uns also mal einen Zollstock und messen 78,9 cm ab. Mit dem linken Daumen gehen wir an unser aktuelles alter in cm und dann eben noch 15cm weiter. So lang ist das was übrig bleibt nicht mehr...
@MoonShadeStuff You have to remember that the American prison system is privatized and not designed to rehabilitate people. It's designed to create hardened criminals by treating them like animals. That way there's a higher chance they'll commit crime again after release, leading to another prison sentence which earns the prison more money. They're literally financially incentivized to abuse the prisoners, and the cultural propaganda teaching kids from a young age to consider "criminals" as if they're born evil means there's not a lot of people demanding change inside of the country.
@Warrick Rhode thank you for your insights, that’s basically what I told @COLDSTEEL production in German a few comments ago. I’ve gathered as much from American reports about the justice system.
@MoonShadeStuff I think I watched that once with my family. If not it was a different but similar documentary. Extremely interesting to see the cultural differences between the US and the EU, specifically Germany. I do agree, the German inmates had WAY less repeat offenders with the German model of incarceration.
@Warrick Rhode they only charged him with second degree murder because at least from what evidence they had and the defenses story, it was not premeditated. That’s why it’s only 40 years because second degree is a heat of the moment intent to harm not necessarily to kill murder.
It's touched on in the video. He didn't want her blabbing to management that they were seeing each other. It was probably just an argument that spun out of control.
Bonefish Grill * out of *****. Food was decent. Nothing to write home about. My Buffalo Jalapeno Ranch was a bit cold when they it got to table. Was originally going to leave a two star review on account of the manager/head chef clumsily murdering his ex girlfriend in the parking lot in broad daylight while I was finishing my cheesy ranch dressing bowl, but I noticed that he had been freshly UNSCABBED, and it's difficult not to recognize that level of culinary commitment and it really bumped it up to three.
Most restaurants in the Jacksonville area leave their entire staff FULLY scabbed, and I have to be honest, when you dine in a "SCAB FREE" restaurant, there really IS a noticeable difference in the quality and overall experience and it's honestly refreshing to see a head chef with the experience to take that seriously. Your average Jacksonville chef will maybe...MAAAAAYBE pick their scabs off in the shower before work, but do you think they're going to go back, 4 hours later, and pick those very same scabs off when they reform later during their shift? UNLIKELY! And that's the Bonefish Grill DIFFERENCE!
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go never eat in a restaurant for the rest of my life
@Arbiter of Truth OhI thought they were still talking about day/month format lol. The comment talking about how people outside the U.S tell time was really confusing and I’m not sure why it was brought up, so chill out we’re on the same side
What he did was unforgivable! But let's not make fun of him. The reality is we don't know if he actually intentionally killed her. You can end up killing someone unintentionally, and then you will have people making fun of you while you rot in jail, think about that! Anything can happen tomorrow, maybe you will be in the same position as him, think about that!
@Abayomrunkoje Musa you must be joking. Whether it was intentional or not, he burned her body then threw her in a lake. Only a sicko could do something like that. Also 75% her body suffered wounds and she was seen trying to get out of the car three times - thats not "accidental". Save your moral compass and stick it somewhere else other than his ass.
@Tori mhhhm So only a sicko can dispose a body the way he did? I mean have you even been in a situation where you killed someone? Is it not possible that the fear of the consequences can drive you to do things that you never believed you can do. If i killed someone unintentionally, i would probably do what he did, not because im a sicko, it's because i would do anything to avoid destroying my life, im 100 percent sure many people would do the same thing, or did you really think people will just hand themselves in to the police station and destroy the rest of their lives?
@Abayomrunkoje Musa Just number one rule don't put your hands on people it's that simple. Self defense will prove itself no need to run. But hey man, whatever lets you sleep at night bro
@Abayomrunkoje Musa yeah I totally go around killing people with my bare hands and sometimes ha trouble determining if I killed them. Totally understandable 🙄
@Scars, rust, & pixie dust that's crazy. Learn something new everyday. But there are several things like that that we take for granted are the same in different cultures. Like in English we say I am 33 years old. In Spanish u say I have 33 years. Age is something u have it's something u own opposed to something u literally are. So the meaning of something like years of life is completely different.
@Poopin Fruz because we write the date in the order that we say it verbally: most people over here would say "February 5th, 2021" rather than "the 5th of February, 2021". EDIT: oh, someone beat me to it. But yea, it's just an insignificant little cultural difference; not something to get worked up over or have strong feelings about, as I see in some of these other comments lol.
@Joseph For all the sane people who use the actual ISO standard way of writing dates, it is 2021-02-05 if we are talking about what Americans call February 5th, 2021. I think it is fine for archiving purposes to write 20210205 in digital filenaming and add the "-" for legibility in writing, but to not start with the biggest unit and go to smaller seems weird, especially in digital filenames (if you start with the month for example, you get all january dates from every year first and so on, while YYYYMMDD kind of auto-organizes by date when sorting alphabetically). Anyway, long story short, people should really use YYYY-MM-DD everywhere.
Quick question: why do don't people use the phrase "under the prison" to mean in prison? I've never heard it before but I've recently seem quite a few people in the comment sections of videos like this say it. I'm just curious where it comes from
@Abayomrunkoje Musa Oh please.. unintentional my ass! His actions were intentional! Had he mistankingly hurt her, he wouldn't have intentionally tried getting rid of the evidence. Common sense must not be so common in your little realm, eh?!
@LeAnn S crazy right? How bout this one. The Bible was originally written in Hebrew. The word "soul" does not even exist in the Hebrew language. A soul is a relatively new concept. How much does that change the whole idea if Christianity lol. We just take all this stuff for granted. The word soul was added to the Bible when translated so it would conform and confirm modern philosophies. There's billions of other things like that we take for granted are unanimous across languages and cultures and don't realize how unique and localized a lot of our characteristics are. I have a friend from chile and when u ask how tall is someone he puts his hand out to show u how tall they are by turning his hand straight up and down like u would to shake hands. The top of his thumb is their height lol. Imagine not being able to barely speak his language trying to gesture to him how tall someone is. Ud think that would be pretty universal lol but he has no idea what you are talking about because your hand is turned sideways to him haha
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Tony Stankard2021-02-25 15:52:25 (edited 2021-02-25 15:54:27 )
@LeAnn S and p.s. it's like that with everything in latin based languages not just age but anything like we say I am hungry or I am old or I am beautiful or strong or anything else. In a lot of other languages anything that describes your body is something that u have, it's not something you are. They don't think of your characteristics as something you become, it's something you acquire. And if u think about it it's kind of a better way to look at things lol
@Jodi Delong that's a really common phrase down here in the south seems kinda crazy that you've never heard it before lol but if u just get put IN jail, there's a chance (however good that chance might be) that you will get out. U might get a bond or paroled or finish your sentence or break out etc. But if u get put UNDER the jail, there is no door out. Maybe ur buried under the jail or whatever. People say that meaning u should get put in jail and never have a chance to get out
@Tony Stankard oh ok that's makes sense thanks for explaining it to me! I'm from Pennsylvania and haven't heard anybody use that phrase or if I have never really noticed lol
@Tony Stankard Although I had to read your comment twice (😅), that's quite interesting. I never knew that about the Bible or that about the Europeans (I'm assuming). I guess you're never too old to learn something new. 😊 Thanks for sharing.
@Poopin Fruz it’s just easier to say February fifth, not “on the fifth day of February.” In the USA, we are all about making sense. No one here walks around saying “listen to this crazy story, ok so it was the fifth of ...well I can’t remember the month”. Month is a lot more descriptive and therefor it comes first when dating an important event. If it’s in that same month you are talking about, then the date is more important. When you tell a story, and start off with “back in January....” does anyone interrupt and say, “yeah man, I get that, but was it the first, the third, the fifteenth?” No! Hence we add that in after mentioning the moth. It’s much easier to orient yourself on a monthly calendar than picturing a daily calendar when talking about past events. There’s a fifth in every month so easier to just mention the month first.
I don't think a lengthy response is a giveaway of anything. There are quite a lot of people who would happily talk for hours after being given an open-ended question.
He should have said he went and bought heroin with her, that would explain the lies, also he should have said he takes aspirin and thats why the cut didnt heal.
Also, did anyone notice that he covered his tracks for any suspicion that he might have an ongoing amphetamine habit, by admitting he'd taken an Adderal (legal prescription drug), an event so rare he'd only ever done it once before. Now had they tested him, he'd have the least incriminating alibi for testing positive. Later in the story we find he dabbled but 'stepped back'. Once he had to admit to driving away with Savannah, he again contradicted himself in admitting they did drugs.
@Skepticus Maximus it’s also kinda hilarious how easily this dude admits to crimes lmao. They got him to literally confess to MURDER in under an hour, and he admitted a crime on the first damn question they asked him with the drugs.
@Andy Gygi I guess the thinking is that, if I'm totally forthcoming with something relatively petty, they'll assume I'm honest about the alibi or denial of the murder. Trouble is he didn't even set himself up very well for that line either.
People please... Always always, get a lawyer and STFU. Oh and try not to kill other folks.
@Skepticus Maximus this is absolutely wrong. A lab can tell the difference between meth and adderall I take adderall and when I get drug tested at work it shows a failure and they have to send it to a lab to be tested and see if it’s meth or a prescription amphetamine.
@Kut Throat Well that's interesting. I wonder if its the same for dexamphetamine. Nevertheless he'd have been assuming as I did. Any amphetamine will test the same. And if they have to send it to a lab for a more rigorous test, why bother if he has given a reasonable excuse for a positive? Its half alibi half bluff... so... it's an alibluff.
"She slapped me and I was afraid to be the first man slapped to death by a tiny lady, I had to defend myself. I fought for my life against those slaps, with just one neck grab, and her neck just snapped. 😔 I didn't mean for this to happen..." Such a crazy case, so interesting getting to see an actual reaction after his confession. Your work is so fantastic, thank you!
It isn't unrealistic. For people that don't get in fights, blows to the face are really shocking. You just freeze up and and engage flight or fight and I think he could have throttled her to death easily.
@StainMane I don't think it's what happened but it isn't impossible. People seem to think that no man would be scared by a girl attacking them. It's a pretty ignorant and outdated belief.
Don't know if you have been hit in the face repeatably by someone you could kill with one hand but it is hard not to hit back and if you are an idiot with no will power you are going to kill them. Fight or flight is a hard instinct to overwrite. I am not saying that is what happened.
Not only did this guy brutally murder the girl (probably by 5 or more minutes of strangulation), but now he's trying to assassinate her character by calling her a drug addict that "attacked him" and made him "afraid for his life". How does this guy even stand living with himself?
I’m not arguing that he is good, or even that he’s not deplorable, but I will say: in his position, with such limited options, (NOT legally speaking) it makes sense & I don’t think I nor other men are above scrabbling at the sides when the tank fills up with water.
I Immediately thought his reasoning for explaining her as a drug addict was to create a red herring. If he could convince them that she was a drug addict, it might have been a dealer somehow somewhere that would have killed her, freeing him from the spotlight.
@Oscar Patino its longevity in your system is shorter than you'd think. However an addict would need it to constantly be in their system. Doesn't mean they weren't withdrawing or trying to kick tho.
Good news bad news situation. Good news, they got chefs in prison cuz. Bad news, it’s one of best gigs in there no way homebois gonna let you do shit you killed a woman you maniac.
It was good work... but still was a solved case. maybe it was closed right after he said she got in his car that day/ maybe even from before the interrogation.
@NoEscapeEver “Overdid her performance” yeah dude it was totally just a performance... missed the part when she mentioned she was a mother? Or maybe just extremely sympathetic and worried about Savanna? Was not just a performance...
@Julie Exel That's not entirely why it worked. Lee is a dopey cookie, and his lies were immediately called out and ripped apart. It wasn't just the woman's terribad acting that worked, just the fact that they punched through his bullshit.
He should to not talked to the police . Tell them you are not talking without a lawyer . They have a video but you would be a free man if you don’t open your mouth . They had evident on me but I told the police I’m not going to talk without a lawyer . I was arrested attempted murder I bailed myself out and the da never picked up the charges due to lack of Evidence. They need that confession to convict you without a reasonable doubt . They don’t have a confession 65% of the time they gonna free your guilty ass
He went through whole range of thoughts emotions regrets remorse etc. I was thinking if that were me I could see going from denial to remorse to being angry at victim then realizing I am the pos & ruined both our lives over a moment of rage... I get it & I think that's what happened with him. I mean I can't justify his actions but he at least did apologize to Savannah where many killer refuse to acknowledge the victim at all or continue to blame victim never accepting their own responsibility ever so I give this guy little tiny credit for that. But I wonder if it was just for cameras cuz he did plead not guilty & self defense claim so ya he was a good actor psychopath more I think of it.
@CARI BROWN he said they both used drugs, both young and trying to figure out life. He most likely killed her in a spur of the moment emotional distress and that big mistake caught up to him. His reaction is what I imagined to b normal after doing something that bad, out of character
@Jonathan H Kim right? Is it like the first time watching these? Most of these are mom's who respond deadpan to police talking about their dead babies bodys. But a dude balling his eyes out is a ice cold psychopath
@Alex Welch I don't get this criticism. It's on every video. Of course he's gonna breakdown after punishment. That's why there's a punishment. So ppl regret bad decisions. The thing ppl don't see is usually the hell ppl face to make these decisions to even ending someone's life. Dealing with social pressure at his workplace as a chef seemed to equate to a jail cell in that moment
I'm from Jacksonville and know the situation he totally lied he was trying to be with her and she didn't want him and refused him and that's why he killed her because his macho player ego was hurt
I'm from Jacksonville and know the situation he totally lied he was trying to be with her and she didn't want him and refused him and that's why he killed her because his macho player ego was hurt
He does feel remorse though in saying "Im so sorry Savannah. Im so sorry." I am in no way defending him for this crime, I'm not a murderer apologist, but he did feel remorse for killing her.
First, why would you love that? Second, that is not the case. He says, "Savannah was so nice to you. For somebody who was a bitch to you. How does that make any sense?" He's saying that he left Savannah (and subsequently killed her) to be with someone else who, in his words, was a bitch to him. It seems quite clear that he regrets this.
@hollywood dc at first I felt his reaction was genuine & acknowledged he seemed remorseful however the fact he didn't just admit guilt & take a plea deal but instead pleaded not guilty - this alone made me pause & question how genuine & sincere he was being. He took a huge risk going to trial with all evidence against him including this video but he claimed self defense... completely blaming victim for her own death, a terrifying 90lb girl. That's where he lost all credibility with me. I understand one needs a defense in trial & this was prob only shot he had . While I do feel some of those emotions were genuine & normal when a good person makes one snap very bad decision.. I have to wonder if he was trying to seem remorseful for camera. Once he figured his self defense angle, he did blame her in the end
@CARI BROWN that's some really good acting, and really quick litigation planning, if you think he was acting to fall in line with his lawyers defense in a trial months, if not years later. I'm doubting a Applebee's chef who's never been to a murder trial, knew how to prep this up for a camera in line with a future defense..... He says several times he screwed up his own life after just seemingly getting shit together, as new head chef, and not getting in trouble with other dumb shit.... It seems more of a stretch that crying during interrogation was just manipulation for a stone cold killer
@CARI BROWN Pleading something is defined by lawyers and 'logic'. We never see a sincere criminal/perpetrator/etc. In an interview they are pressured (don't forget all the false confessions) and in court they are trying their best to survive. My mother trains pastors in working with people who have psychological issues, and that includes prison pastors and thus I have some special interest in their stories... and the way these types of criminals over time see their acts is all over the place. You have everything, from complete victim blaming to thinking they are the worst thing to have ever walked on this earth.
@Twilight Stories When global warming really kicks in do you think people are going to be filled mostly with regret and remorse for the way they treated the planet, or with instincts of self-preservation and fear over how they can deal with new and extreme weather conditions?
This is a prime example of why apologies mean nothing and are just empty platitudes. Anything said or done that would warrant an apology is full well known at the time of doing or saying it. If you do it or say it anyway, any apology given after the fact is to me, pointless and empty. The only thing people apologize for is getting caught or called out as they would never apologize if nobody ever knew they said or did it. I personally do not offer or accept apologies for this reason. The easiest way to avoid anyone expecting one from you is to treat all with respect and do or say nothing with intention of malice to begin with.
@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I'm not and never have said nor expect everyone to agree with my personal take on the psychology of apologies. My entire take on it is built from my own personal experiences and relationships. Not owing apologies is just simple logic but not accepting them is completely up to each individual. When someone offers me an apology for their behaviour or poor choice of words etc. I don't just write them off I simply offer an alternative which is...instead of apologizing because you got caught, just don't do things in the future that would require such. It really isn't all that hard to do the right thing even when nobody is watching.
@Michael Fox Apologies at their core are an individual admitting they made a mistake. That what happened was not how they wished to act. Of course there can be insincere apologies, but claiming that all apologies are insincere is claiming that humans can't learn from their mistakes, grow and forgive each other. Humans aren't machines that make perfectly calculated choices. Not offering an apology when you made a mistake is literally claiming that you don't make mistakes, thus putting the fault always with the other party. My sincere recommendation after any negative interaction with another human is to literally ask yourself "is there anything I could apologize for?", as that sets the tone for the entire discussion: a tone that invites reflection and growth.
@Άγγελος Μορίκης Im not talking about little mistakes,..im talking about actions or statements made with intent knowing full well what the outcome will be if found out. I did not use the word malice by mistake. Even little mistakes are better dealt with by learning to not do that rather than an empty "im sorry" and then 2 weeks later you do it again.
@David Mulder That is a very valid argument but doesnt really address my point. What I am referring to are actions or statements said or done with intent and full knowledge of the potential outcome. Example,..your buddy borrows your car and you trust him because he is generally a responsible person but on this occasion he goes out and has a few drinks and hits a trash can or a stop sign...nothing major just a bit of damage. An apology is hollow from that point as he knew the potential consequences of doing this but did it anyway. Same thing as in a heated argument with your wife you call her a bitch or a cunt...no real harm but you knew the use of simple words could potentially destroy your relationship but said it anyway. My entire point is not simple mistakes but actions or words that you know beforehand are going to cause harm either physically or emotionally but you do/say them anyway. Apologies at that point are pointless as the fact you gave no forethought to begin with shows you had every intention of doing or saying what you did regardless of outcome. My response to apologies is simply dont apologize just dont do it if its going to require an apology afterward.
It sounded like he regretted MANY things. Why they didn't release the actual confession, but still released the aftermath , should be a cause for concern. Seeing JUST the emotional carnage without it's actual cause is a HIGHLY manipulative act towards the public, the media, and through the media the pool of potential jurors for any trial.
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Sean Brazell2021-12-17 18:47:35 (edited 2021-12-17 18:58:32 )
@Michael Fox Extreme emotion and a overload of adrenaline can cause people to say or do something to hurt the other person not unlike a clumsy punch being thrown without thinking or the intent to kill or maim. If that is the case an apology could be both genuine and helpful, even if only as a way to move separately forward with one less festering regret and gain emotional closure of one door of life so another can be more cleanly and positively opened. Obviously that is a substantially different set of doors if the conduct in question is a horrifically violent crime or vicious, cruel words written or spoken in a calculated way for maximum harm to achieve the longest lasting lament.
@Sean Brazell If you find an apology in that sort of context useful or helpful that's fine and I'm not saying you shouldn't,.....I'm simply just not wired that way. To me anything done that would require an apology can easily be avoided with a moment of forethought and a sense of right and wrong. Situational awareness is in my opinion one of the most important aspects of living in a society.
@Sean Brazell The cause for his emotional breakdown was because he got caught....period. He had no real remorse for his actions and until he was caught never gave her a second thought. His main concern was his own welfare made apparent by his statements of he was going places...I'm gonna die in jail etc. He didn't show an ounce of remorse for having killed her. His actions were completely intentional and calculated and he deserves no sympathy of any kind.
@THRAX BERSERKER Im simply saying his pathetic apology is pointless meaningless and empty. The only thing he regrets is being caught. His actions prove that to be true.
Yea but he only considers her way after the fact. He was more mad about getting caught then anything. Then as he grieved he regretted it but up until that point he had clearly no regrets even showing up you could tell he thought he was gana get away with it
Is he though? Are u are mind reader? I understand why u wouldnt like the guys, but still, that doesnt mean that he doesnt care about the girl (Or about killing her to be more specific)
@hollywood dc Im saying that him whining about regretting it the last 25% means nothing since in court he plead not guilty and blames her, and claimed self defense against her.
@Kratoes did you read the above comments? A legal plea in court prepared by a litigation team hardly means what someone is actually feeling about a situation
@CARI BROWN what is more genuine. Raw statements made during emotional breakdown, or moves in the cold game called court. With clear mind and lawyers giving legal advices. Trial has little to do with feeling of regret. 9,9/10 humans that will commit a crime worth regretting, would prefer to regret it outside jail. Just because the self preservation instinct kicks in, which y'all love to talk about like you're all a psychologists, doesn't mean he won't regret that day till his death. Just because he will regret this day till his death, doesn't mean that he will abandon life and just give up.
@Gui Caldo He also said "fucking Savannah" as though blaming her for his outcome. Finally if any said guilt was worth anything, even considering evidence such as a whole ass confession, why would he not plead guilty, the very least he could do, even if advised by lawyers to fabricate the story, to agree and say u killed in self defence. How low can you be.
"Why didn't you just tell her to leave you alone?" "This isn't you, Lee" "I'm so sorry Savannah" "She was so nice to you"
All of those where said by him, all of them clearly refer to how much he regretted killing her. He wouldn't be apologising to her for admitting that he killed her. He's apologising for killing her. Come on.
Btw, I don't want to seem like I'm defending him. He's a murderer and deserves jail for life. I'm just annoyed that this many people got it wrong.
@Munch Moo He's feeling conflicted emotions. This man is obviously not okay, and in his state he can snap back and forth between anger, self-pity, fear, remorse within moments. All of these emotions are real, but a lot of people here zero in on one of them and pretend like the others don't exist.
I guess it's easier to see murderers as soulless monsters and not as human beings just like us.
@Michael McGee He literally did. He's crying and apologizing. Like I said, I don't feel bad for him, or forgive him for his dumbass crime, but he did feel remorse. Remorse and anger kind of go hand in hand when you kill a person if you have even a shred of sanity. He's mad at her for him killing her, like an idiot, but he still was remorseful. Probably for both her because he ended her life, and for himself because now he has to deal with the consequences.
@Seth exactly, what do these ppl not get. Nobody said let him free, but he's literally the only one of these videos that actually showed remorse. Do these ppl prefer the mom's who strangle their 2 yr old babies and dump them as if it was tues's trash, without a shred of emotion?
@Michael McGee since you are so much more morally enlightened, please describe the proper appropriate way for this man to have reacted after the interrogation
@Michael McGee I like how you've avoided the question completely. How is the man supposed to react and what was the appropriate response? Without irrelevant commentary
@James Baumann My common sense tells me not to read comments if I don't want anything spoiled. And here I am in the comment section after watching the entire video.
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Michael McGee2022-01-08 02:48:12 (edited 2022-01-09 23:20:40 )
@hollywood dc A mother who dumps her baby's body in a trash can = monster. A guy who dumps his girlfriend's body in a trash can = poor misunderstood sweetheart, because he cried. Tell me again why you're morally superior? I keep forgetting.
i dont understand why you or JCS think this, he was clearly telling himself he was stupid for killing her. its clear he is not a murderer and that was not at all his intention, it only became such as the moments heat continued to rise. it might baffle some people that I can say this, but I think lee is really a lot more of a normal guy than you would originally think, just with possible serious anger issues. after killing her he probably instantly goes shit what have i done, and realises he needs to save himself from incrimination. you can also see afterwards in his breakdown the anguish he feels at himself for ruining his life because of this mistake. Lee is a murderer, and he should get punished, but we have to remember what prison is for. it is to threaten those of what will come if they do the wrong thing, and it is to teach people of what will happen if they do the wrong thing again. honest to god, do you think that lee would ever kill another person if he spent only a year in jail? i don't think so at all. he wants savannah to be alive, and he hates himself enough for killing her that he would probably be cautious for the rest of his life.
i really hope someone read all this, and if you did please take the time to give a detailed response with your opinion, just be careful to not talk out of emotion and think purely radically. i totally understand how crazy this sounds, he killed someone but i think he wouldnt do it again if he was barely punished? yes, but only because of my judgement of his character when he thinks no one else is watching. and for the record this is not to say he doesnt deserve harsh punishment, only that he would not commit murder again without it. thanks for reading btw :)
@CARI BROWN altho i get what ur saying its clear that how he reacted in the room was real, and after having some to think he worked out how he might have a chance to save his ass. the plea has absolutely nothing to do with his true emotions, which were of remorse.
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Michael McGee2022-01-18 02:13:48 (edited 2022-01-18 02:14:52 )
@smurphas You didn't watch the full confession. It's online they had to drag it out of him and even then he lied about how he killed her. Also the slashing of her tires and the pulling her back in as she tied to escape aswell the lying right through the interrogation and all of a sudden he's ok because he cried. Seriously?
@smurphas Nobody who strangles a person to death is a good person, no exceptions. He looked her in the eyes watched her die and didn't give a f*ck until he was caught. Don't be naive those tears were solely for himself.
@THRAX BERSERKER yet pleads not guilty do to fearing for his own life.... Come on, he didn't mean a word of it and if he did feel sorry for killing her its only because it ruined his life. The putting on the chefs coat proves he's only concerned about himself and he's clearly not thinking of her. Oh, and you may have missed it but watch the end again, thats rage when he os saying "fucking Savanna". Basically he's implying its her fault for his actions.
The fact he was so passionate about being a chef "This is the last time you wear a chef clothes", also shows how a moment of stupidity can ruin your life
@KingoftheCove I mean, Lee could be a sociapath. In that case you wouldn't mind a girl's life. Don't assume that everyone have the same morals and emotions as you because they don't. But that doesn't mean they should go to jail unless they commit a crime.
@ChiefinASmith no you haven’t. Jesus fucking Christ what is it with these people. Please enlighten us all about how your parents were drugs addicts and you grew up with no moral compass and mental health issues, and you also turned to drugs. And you started dating a heroin addict and starting doing all that stuff too and then in a passion filled moment when your girlfriend is certainly attacking you, you completely lose it and lash out. Tell me that story 😉
@esthervs sv yes it is. Stupidity by definition is lack of sense of good judgement. We have used is in multiple places for its meaning to become something mundane, doesn't mean it's not true. What he did was stupid.
@Christina Forsythe I have no right?? Defending the One true God, the One who made the Heaven and the earth, ignorant people should never even blasphemed God you don't know what awaits you!
@My Master My King "should never blasphemed"? You have grammar like that, but you're lecturing people on cosmology? 😄 Go ahead and be abject to some imaginary master all you like, but don't indignantly demand that other people somehow "respect" it. That's garbage. How much respect would you have for the belief that Jack and The Beanstalk was a true story?
@Lucas Groves I have a grammar like this because I'm not an english speaker, but I could speak without even learning your pride grammar. But protecting God's dignity is my supreme duty! Let me tell you, when you die, what do you think will happened to you? You don't believe in God even though everything points out that there is a God, but what is holding you is your pride. Good luck with your damned way.
@Lucas Groves oh yes! Thank you for your criticism. I appreciate it, to be honest. But since I am not really good at english, and you are criticising me bitterly for that. Maybe after 1 month lets debate, online what would you say? I'll study grammar and you'll study your argument then lets debate?
Its your pride that stopping you from believing in God, you don't even love yourself that much but God loves you immeasurably. You think God is vindictive? How?
@Lucas Groves you have a lot of errors too that I could correct. But I have no time for that, but if we could debate face to face, I will have a good time. And please don't use emoji its only for kids
@Lucas Groves and let me clarify I did not mean your reply to my last reply but the long reply that you deleted thats why I ask wheres your reply. And you can laugh at my grammar but you will not laugh when you I debated you. I will expose you mark my word
@My Master My King I only ever delete a reply to avoid a trivial edit, and always replace it immediately. So you aren't missing any replies.
Evidently, you don't know it's fallacious to overstate your opponents' arguments, which you've done three times at least. You're disingenuous in claiming that I belittled you, when the opposite is what occurred. I made a rational point about the mindset of people who never notice that they've missed some basic grammar, but nevertheless move on to argue philosophy. While still never catching up on the grammar, but always ready to claim that grammar is a trivial issue. 😆 That self-involved mindset I do laugh at.
"you will not laugh when I debated you." You just did it again. blasphemed, happened, debated These are all past tense. You say "Oh, thanks for the correction, I really appreciate it." But not only is THAT a lie, you don't even actually take up the point that you call a correction! You're still making the original error! Classic passive-aggressive. You don't welcome the correction at all; you're just being sarcastic about it. Failure to notice long-missed points of development, even when they are explicitly mentioned; ordering people to remove comments because they insult some imaginary deity; persistently passive-aggressive discourse... all hallmarks of a narcissist.
@Lucas Groves thats good. But lets focus on the real issue. Lets debate, whats your answer? Are you gonna ran away like what you are doing now? Pointing unnecessary things to escape the real issue?
Watching this, I realise I'm so lucky that the last time I felt this type of mortal fear was when I was 8 years old and the teacher had left me in the staff room to go call my parents and tell them that I haven't done my homework. Experiencing that in your adulthood seems to be so crippling.
Glad I know about the long response thing and the “I don’t know” response. If I were in this situation and I were innocent I probably would have responded to those questions the same way he did
i dont think you would. these long, detailed responses are a conscious method to appear innocent. i think in a real situation where you are being questioned by the police and also innocent your answers would be different. imagine being accused of something you didnt do by a family member or spouse.
@jonny jynxer It's important to look at this objectively too though. dude admitted he's on adderall. adderall will 100% make you ramble on about shit. so of course he was nervous bc he was guilty and I'm sure that extended his response times but an innocent man on adderall could very easily have given similarly lengthy responses.
I do interviews somewhat like this, albeit for a private company and for far less serious crimes. What you start to notice is the second point the video made -- innocent people tend to start to get mad at you when you do a direct confrontation. They'll question you, demand to see the video evidence, raise their voice, curse, etc. They'll go from totally cooperative and casual when you're in a report building phase because they think they're there to genuinely help, then get hostile as you start pressing them. That's when you start thinking maybe you've got the wrong guy. Sometimes it's an act, but usually they're actually innocent. Of course, you have to put it within the context of the individual as well. If they are a naturally meek person, they probably won't yell or curse, but they'll pout or sulk, almost disgusted at the situation.
Well, psychology isn't perfect. It's just how a majority of people will act with the help of the data collected. And those variables could vary vastly.
@hpallsauce I don't know his last name. When I was there we worked under a general manager named Chris. I worked at bonefish for 10 years in Gainesville then transferred there. He started working there when I got there.
@MMA TV PRODUCTIONS Thanks dude but you ain’t gotta do all that man just keep posting good videos. I’m a fighter myself and the vids make the days where I’m dreading to go so much better. Just keep poppin off with the vids
@TD B -What an odd sentiment to put in a video like this, a video where a man murdered a young woman and blamed it on her with a "self-defence" argument. It sounds like victim blaming.
@PEATYxxjxxx meth doesn't make you a psychopath. It's literally like Adderall but less side effects and lasts twice as long. Just keep believing those harmful drug war propaganda stigmas that only perpetuate human suffering around the globe.
@Bicky BooI’ve never heard someone defend meth like it was marijuana. Meth can cause rage and make people feel like they can do anything. Also the addiction is awful and in most cases ruins lives. Like it did in these case. There is also no proof this guy was s psychopath. What is evident is that these two did drugs together and under the influence of them, most likely Meth, shit got out of hand.
@D Ke and so does heroine and morphine but we know all to well that they are also highly addictive and deadly and when abused or used recreationally ruin lives.
@Mister Master what the hell are you talking of course lee will not be free again. I am not clout chasing you silly boy. I really did work with Lee for 2 years when i transferred from Gainesville
@Viper the hell he would, they already had evidence on him. He'd have left the room and been arrested right outside the police station, like Stephanie Lazarus
@Bicky Boo so you are trying to protect meth my god please get some therapy I worry for you and your family as well as those around you get out of addiction and seek help
@PEATYxxjxxx What's evident is that drugs have nothing to do with the scenario because the only person that mentioned drugs is the cold-blooded killer that lied from the start to the very end of this video. Don't throw drugs around as an excuse for murder.
@EweChoober Totally. She was tripping on her words and so whiny like. I didn't like her style at all. I don't feel like she's very good to tell you the truth.
Well, he seemed like an ok dude in the video footage. Yes he killed her but he questioned his actions himself. It wasn't like he had planned of killin her, it just happened. Still awful and he deserves jail but still..
@TD B A man murders a woman and you think that's a reflection on HER character? Sick mind. A lost life might seem insignificant when it's a stranger and you're looking at the situation through a screen but that's a fucked up thing to say. Hope you're capable of introspection
@Simon HN he beat her so badly they couldn't confirm cause of death...so seriously? if you reckon this guy is an "ok dude" you are likely also a terrible person.
@kat454 Oh gtfo she literally started crying and yelling when she spoke up. Also, looks like the person you are calling misogynistic is a woman lol.. Your overzealous feminism is showing. Would you like to speak to E O C’s manager to file a formal complaint?
@Simon HN dude you literally said "yes he killed her but he questioned his actions" obviously he questioned his actions?? he literally killed someone it doesn't make a difference? "yes he deserves jail BUT still" like wtf? but still what? that poor girl is dead, him "questioning his actions" does NOTHING for her.
@EweChoober I know right? She was kinda off and weird but I’m sure she caused him to worry or get scared and feel trapped and appealed to him and SHE LITERALLY BEGGED HIM damn that was interesting to watch
@kat454 so you say there is absolutly no difference between a cold hearted, emotionless killer and a person with personal issues that had a rampage (probably) ONCE?!?! Yes he absolutely deserves jail but he didn't do it for pleasure, that is my point, he has a conscience. I said that it was awful, I said that he deserves jail, BUT he doesn't seem like a psychopath to me! You saying "the girl has nothing from this" is absolutely right. The only thing that matters is that he is in jail, which he is, which I agree he should be. Doesn't matter if you defend this girl or trying to condemn this man or whatever bullshit cause ou may have, just get off my balls. What is your point?
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Louis Colangelo2020-11-12 21:27:10 (edited 2020-11-12 21:29:25 )
@EweChoober I've thought about this, and I wanna take a stab. Lee is portrayed as a chill dude who gets along easily, and every one has something good to say about him. Her hysterics in combination with "that's someone's child" is likely trying to tug at his empathy, because it's a good guess he had some. His answers after this are subdued, and it's clear he's trying to hold himself together emotionally. I think it was worth a shot, most people in the comments seem to disagree though
@EweChoober YES!!! It was like she snapped and thought she was on a prime time cop drama or something 🙄 I wouldn’t have been able to finish the video if she went on any longer than she did. It was too extra.
@mydogsioux No, people are rarely prescribed meth, e.g. for narcolepsy. You're simply incorrect, at least in regards to the US. Not sure about other countries
@kat454 first you say that i am most likely a terrible person because of thinking that he isn't a cold blooded murderer. You say he is a cold blooded murderer and then you say that he can make people (not just terrible people!) feel sorry for him. What is it now?
Anything can happen to anyone in a moment of time, it's been going on for thousands of years, and most never ever thought it could end up like this and bam bam your life and other people's lives are changed forever.. and usually over something stupid... So sad...
@Milo S Good job. You really owned that guy, whoever he was, who was arguing that it was given to kids at the same frequency of Ritalin. As well as the guy who said it was never used at all in the last 60 years. Oh wait, that was you.
@Milo S You decided to fact check it and you were wrong and yet you've been carrying on like I was wrong and as if I said all these things I didn't say while writing a novel in the comments section. Do you take stimulants yourself? Because it really sounds like it.
@Milo S You should adjust things. Tomorrow morning read this comment thread again and you'll see how unnecessary most of the things you said were. I am someone who made one-two offhand comments (which btw were accurate... I never said anything about the merits of meth, merely that it is used) and you came at me in a way I think you'll see was inappropriate. I suggest reading up on what hypomania is as well. Take it easy.
@EweChoober she serves to humanize the girl and her parents. Saying she has a kid the same age and getting so upset, it worked because he confessed and did get emotional
@Nahani Yes right a woman shows emotions for a dead girl and she's "whiny." If she's not a mother she deserves an Oscar because I'm a mom and that's just how it is
@kat454 Excuse me but do you realize what you're doing? People here watch many of these videos and have seen a lot of psychopaths showing no sign of remorse and who often planned their crimes. This person you're talking with has said nothing wrong by comparing different types of murderers. Why are you trying so hard to make him/her feel guilty about a valid comparison that criminologists do? All killers are not the same, none can be considered as "good people", but yes, some are worse than others. Thus, it's valid to say that Lee at least confessed and showed signs of remorse. It's "better" than others. He's also a coward and tried to save his skin by accusing the victim after that. Nobody here said he was a good person.
I really didn't like the way you tried to make this person feel guilty about something even criminologists say. That was abusive in itself.
@I AM SOMEBODY I understand and Simon, I apologise. I wouldn't usually come at people so harshly but I think this case just really affected me because I find it offensive to the victim when people commend killers for showing remorse, I feel the bar is too low. However I agree none of us are criminologists and I was out of line.
@kat454 thanks, that was the reason I kept commenting. Accused of being a terrible person and then it got out of control. Let's just agree that he belongs in prison for good! Thanks again for apologizing and sorry for getting personal.
@TD B im sorry what? I did not just read this... Are you blaming the girl who was murdered for his actions? This is the problem with yall psychos, always blaming the victims.
E O' C I have a feeling that was their aim. I found her irritating and cringe but imagine being under that pressure and being irritated and feeling cringe. Would make you admit to anything just to get out the room.
@Simon HN Late to the party but I enjoy how that conv got rescued, kudos to all 3. Always take with a huge grain of salt and patience whenever sb does the woke labeling tactic out of the gate. I would add though, that as I read your OP I instantly thought it was too vaguely expressed for a sensitive topic like this. I figured ppl were going to interpret whatever they wanted - feminists and misogynists alike - when you left your final conclusion hanging. I wasn't convinced you actually had your own mind completely made up either on what exact conclusion you were going for. It's worth keeping in mind that a lot of brutal killers etc garner more sympathetic attention by some than their actions and redeeming qualities merit. This is off-putting to a lot of victims, families and observers. So for all who don't want to get lumped together with knee-jerk apologists and occasional misogynists, it's wise to keep all ambiguity out of way when formulating nuanced feelings about murderer so and so.
@Per Arheim Happy you responded in such a delicate and understanding way. It is true that I am in general too vague and I can't get my point and feelings across, great analysis. And I am glad that even if I am not fully understood, it is known why I am not understood.
whenever you see people with no issues, that's when you doubt them, people with no issue does not exist, they just hide it well. or are ashamed to share their problems with others. The people who complain most and talk a lot about their problems, in my experience are usually the most harmless.
@Simon HN "delicate" wasn't what I had in mind, but I'll take it 😄 And I hear you, nobody likes to get pilloried online on the latest wrongspeech charges. Knock on wood though, I rarely saw conflicts get resolved like this on YT in the past. Be it random chance, commenting format change, increasing commentor age, or a gradually maturing general attitude toward this thing - for some reason I come across more heated exchanges worth reading lately, as supposed to the standard verbal "king of the hill" contests that tend to go nowhere. Not to say there's not plenty of that around too. But still...
@PEATYxxjxxx I agree. Meth(crank) is no joke. That stuff will fuck a person up. Maybe bath salts was involved. Both of them makes a person crazy. Weed and smack does not.
@Matthew Chavez Was Lee an opioid user? He says himself he used different drugs to what Savannah used; and people here are saying he used meths not opioids? I don't see any evidence that Lee had a habit - he's not withdrawing in these clips. Personally, I think he is one of the many, many people who try blaming drugs for bad things they have done. Just like Michael Rafferty, the moron who killed a little girl. Opioids did not make him download child imagery and there are tens of millions of opioid users who would never do such a thing.
@H D well it worked! l.personally just found her technique odd, but she got the job done. It that M.O. of annoying someone into a confession works, far be it for me to criticise!🤣
how do you guys even sympathize with this man when he started crying? he cursed at savannah, he questions his own stupidity, its clear he does not care one bit about savannah, he only cares about himself. just because he cries does not show that he regrets doing what he did. hes an insane man, he does not deserve your empathy and sympathy at all just for showing emotions.
@b m Woops! I wrote that when it was like 4 am, a bit too early for me to process words. Hes not a serial killer, but he is definitely a coldblooded killer for sure
Because if you force them at the start the investigation ain't gonna happen at all he'll refuse to talk itself, so thts why empathise to catch them in a trap 😊
people cant turn off their empathy. if they see another human being in pain, they will have pity. of course they know this man doesn't deserve it in the slightest. but again, it's not possible to turn off your empathy. i doubt anyone WANTS to feel pity for him. but it's a tragedy all around. a girl lost her life and two families lost a child.
Good looking men tend to get reactions like this from a lot of people, there needs to be a video series on that tbh. Murderous women don't get the same treatment. Even that Chris guy who murdered his two kids and wife had a literal fanclub and people writing him in jail that they wanted to marry him.
@Javie Milanez idk about the women part, but I agree that there should be a series of some sort about the phenomenon of killers having fan clubs. ted bundy is a big example.
3rd time I've watched this video since release. JCS is a true master of his craft. I'm also reminded, don't talk to the police, ever. Especially if you're guilty, but even if you're innocent.
Seeing the announcement that JCS is no longer making vids for YouTube due to bogus YT graphic content warnings and reprimands is a tragedy and loss for everyone. His vids are the best and have gotten me really in to criminal psychology and interrogation.
The worst thing about crimes like these (from my perspective) is the lack of explicit motivation, rather just a speculation of "that he didn't want Savannah to tell other people that they had been seeing each other because that would put his job as manager at the Bone Fish Grill in Jacksonville, Florida in jeopardy.". I hate murder, and murder without apparent or explained motivations drive me nuts. Money, "love", revenge, whatever - at least it's a motivation.
Detective: where did y’all go? Where did you take her?
Lee: well long long ago in a galaxy far far away..
Detective: WHERE DID YOU GO WITH HER!🤬🤬
Lee: Well, over the river and through the woods to grandmother’s house we go, the horse knows the way to carry the sleigh through the white and drifted snow…
Detective: good luck with that story dude. It’s sickening to watch people accused of horrendous crimes sit there and start to cry once they realize the gig is up, and those emotions aren’t for the victim but for themselves once they put 2 + 2 together and get life as the answer. Do they honestly want someone to have sympathy for them yet they didn’t do the same for the person in which due to their actions became an innocent victim! Yeah, they can miss me with that BS. Hopefully her family found a bit of justice after he was found guilty and thrown away.💞🙏🏻😪
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Gabriel Portillo2022-02-04 00:21:05 (edited 2022-02-04 00:21:48 )
This was a man who couldn't handle the situation of a person who was getting used and bullied to submission and sadly it ended to a violent end to the victim and a slow silent caged end for the guy we could've said he was the victim if it ended with just a argument.
I went thru the same thing as him. Its rough. Thank fuck I never hurt anyone and can still live with myself. Dont do drugs. Seriously fucks up your life and makes you do evil things.
It's kinda gross that the story he took to court was that he accidentally killed her while trying to defend himself. Never mind that she struggled so hard that the car was visibly shaking and she kicked the door open 3 times. What a scumbag.
Ah yes, I call this investigator duo "The Family Man" and "The Sympathetic Mother." And despite his crimes, I kimd of feel bad for Lee... He seem to really love his job.
I actually found it very easy to watch his breakdown at the end 🤷♀️ even slightly satisfying. I say slightly because his breakdown was only because of what he was going to face not for what he had done, he even says "for someone that was a bitch to you" , so clearly he is not sorry for what he did to her. He spends all that time talking about how things are going to be for him!! What he was supposed to do with his life!!🤨🤨🤨. No sympathy at all for him from this side of the screen!!
How much of his story was true though? That’s what I’d like to know. I’m not clear on his motivation for killing her. It’s a bummer we can’t see the moment of confession on video.
The long initial response time is due to the fact that he took an adderall for the first time in many years. He literally admitted to taking one and then wouldn’t shut up after the first question. That had nothing to do with some psychological need to give a good answer. He’s tweaking. Lol.
I don't know why I feel bad for him and got emotional when he was crying 🤦♀️🤦♀️. He definitely deserves his punishment. He made that choice. He must live with it. Pos.
This should be a warning sign to EVERY single employer/Company! If your employee doesn't turn up! CONTACT THEN! you can't get through after trying for a while and several times + other contacts on the books! Contact the police to do a health check at their address!
Lee: "The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. [beep] A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound. [ding] Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark, get ready, start."
In the very beginning there’s something about the way the female detective ignores Lee and scrolls on her phone while he keeps glancing her way that is🔥
"it's probably not a great advertisement when a restaurant's head chef is picking their scabs on the job" JCS, my guy, you have a talent for entertainment
I wasn't even looking at the screen after starting the video, and hearing her name shocked the hell out of me. I looked up and saw her face, and still didn't want to believe it. Then I searched or the obituary, and it was all true. Savannah was one of my best friends in middle school. We lost touch after we left, and I didn't even know about any of this until I clicked on this video just now. It feels absolutely awful. I've always been bad at keeping up with my friends, even the ones I love like family, and it makes me wonder if things could have been different with just one more influence.
I didn't even know she was dead. Life is so fragile. Treasure the people you love while you have them.
Aww, what a terrible shock :( You couldn't have done anything to stop this from happening. I'm sure you were a good friend, you were kids and lots of people lose touch. Be good to yourself.
@Georgy Dunaev I can't speak for her habits at the time of this incident, but a few times while I knew her she mentioned smoking weed and we were close friends with another kid that infrequently did acid and kind of bragged about it (this was LaVilla in Jacksonville, some of the kids were pretty crazy). I'd never say that as a negative against Savannah in any way, she was a great friend and her habits never changed that. All of that to say, I wouldn't be surprised if she was doing recreational drugs but I highly doubt that she would let it get to self-destructive levels, at the very least not on her own. This may be my bias speaking, but specifically I don't believe that Lee was telling the truth about the heroin. I think he made that up to provide precedence for his alibi.
@Graficando realidades you’re subscribed to that Minecraft cheater who couldn’t even play without cheating the system, if that ain’t cringe idk what is, kid.
When something like this happens we are usually haunted by "what ifs". "Maybe i could have done something to change what happened". Ofc, truthfully you probably could, anyone could if you think about it, but how where you supposed to know that? You could have done 1000 things that coincidentally ended up preventing someone's death without ever realizing any of it yourself.
I'm sorry for your loss and don't blame yourself buddy.
“Mommy I’m going to spend my life in jail” 😭 Oh boo hoo you savagely killed her with no remorse! “I did something stupid “ Killing someone isn’t stupid like you stubbed your toe. He only cares about himself and that he got caught, the only truthful statement was “ Im a pos” at least he knows his place in the world 💯 BYE BYE SUKKA CRY BUBBA A RIVER 😭😂🤷♂️
PSA ladies… if you be working in a restaurant, just steer clear of relationships with your coworkers, especially the kitchen staff. I’ve worked in many a restaurant and I’ve been getting the heebie-jeebies from men like this since I was 13 years old. BAD NEWS.
Them questioning him to his neck wound was such a good intervention. Meanwhile me, who definitely has sel* h*rmed to the neck before thinking I should stop that if it looks that incriminating oof
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Ano nymous2022-02-05 13:32:35 (edited 2022-02-06 17:01:24 )
Detective: How long have you known Savannah for? Lee: "She was a drug addict" and goes around it for 20 minutes.
I can't help feeling sorry for him crying just like that... Maybee he felt the same way about killing poor girl, and not just about his not bright future.
nah he got rid of her and went to work as if nothing had happened, you can't just fake it like that when you truly are sorry for your actions. If this ever happened to me I wouldn't get rid of the evidence if I were truly sorry.
A lot of people in this comment section are talking about how the lady cop needs to take acting classes and she's overwhelming and annoying. I think her emotional approach makes her very good at what she does. The killer had a supposed history of being a "ladies man," so I believe she adapted on the fly and pandered to his sensibilities by appearing emotionally invested. Law enforcement interrogators are notorious for using highly questionable strategies, but this lady just used simple emotional psychology to get the desired result. Hats off to her.
No one bats an eye when a male detective gets hysterical, but as soon as a female detective does it, the reddit neckbeards magically spawn in full force.
And of course, it was pretty effective, which everyone is conveniently ignoring.
@Gonken88 If you look through some of the comments, it is. People are saying she's the reason why women shouldn't be cops, when she's the reason she gets him to speak. Mind games.... And she's very good at it.
My favourite part is how the other detective seems to be well experienced with it, and his demeanor quickly changes to suit her more accepting approach. Pretty amazing how fast they can read each other's tactics like that
I think it has less to do with her technical proficiency and more to do with the emotional response that it can elicit. I agree with the original point.
Nope. I agree with the others. The female detective seems to be just plain annoying. Look at it this way. The accused man kidnapped and murdered a woman that he was dating off and on...and then lied to the police the very next day about EVERYTHING. Then, when he was taken into custody, he lied even more. The man is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR trying to save his own hide. Do you really think he cares at all about the woman he murdered in cold blood? As for being a so-called "ladies man"....guys like that often OBJECTIFY the many women that they have sex with. They see them as mere objects and not as human beings. The man is a total sociopath and has no idea to to be "emotionally invested" in someone's life. The female detective offered little to nothing in this interview. That male detective played it like a BOSS; he gave the man a proverbial shovel and allowed him to dig his own grave by rambling on with multiple LIES.
I read it as she was pleading with him to remind him of how Savannah probably pleaded with him before he killed her, in order to make him relive the moment so it became more and more difficult to deny the truth. When you aren't very familiar with interrogation techniques its easy to misread what is going on. This is probably deliberate, in order to keep the suspect in a state of uncertainty, confusion and panic.
@Gonken88 I’m actually a physiology minor. And would I say he’s 100% right no but he’s sure as hell more right than you. These people are professionals and this is their job. They do everything for a purpose now shush and go talk about something you know about
Yeah... Brian Blessed was a traditionally trained actor, and as epic as it would be to see him running an interrogation I'm not sure he'd get the job done like this lady did.
Male Interrogator : Where did you take her, Lee ?
Brian : ONWARD MY BRAVE HAWKMEN! LET THIS BE KNOWN FOREVER AS FLASH GORDAN'S DAY!
Very sad situation for both.. In 5 years he will be instatutionilized selling dime bags of Coffoe for honey buns. I can't imagine that situation. Do the crime and pay in time.
More people talk their way into jail than talk their way out of it.
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Kristen Johns2021-05-29 05:44:46 (edited 2021-05-29 18:06:00 )
The female detective was clever. It wasn’t just appealing to his human side. This is a man who loses his emotions with women. Her playing an overly feminine emotional role was meant to cause a reaction of loss of control in him. It’s ironic. People are so convinced women are overly emotional they are focused on her professionalism and losing her emotions in an interview. Come on. Use some common sense. She worked her way up to detective, spent years studying technique, and walked in with her partner with a game plan. These sort of men lose it when women get emotional. When my ex had a knife against my throat I just looked at him like he was stupid and didn’t react. I stayed neutral. I got away by making him think I thought nothing of the situation and he’s been in jail ever since. These men can’t handle emotion. It makes them completely irrational. They will do anything to make it stop, whether kill or confess.
Agreed, almost all aspects of a police interrogation are HEAVILY scripted and controlled; I didn't believe for a second she'd "lost control of her emotions" lol. She's just excellent at her job.
@Vasiliuu loll i aint even mad, that was a good one. Im just busting chops, i apologize if it was took offensively. Lol all peace luv and chicken grease.
@Vasiliuu you showed him, didn't ya? (Sarcasm). Car fixed....now where's my sandwich! And bring some chips with it...after a hard day of fixing sh*t I need to relax with some food and YouTube.
@Dr. Bright would you believe me if I told you I made this account around 2007 2009? I was 15 to 17 at the time decades before the alpha beta chad soyboy memes came to be. If my bio is still up it reads like a cringe awkward teenager.
When you say "emotional", you mean anger, right? Well yes, men show and express more anger than women. after all, they are one of the few emotions they can show, although if we speak in general, women are more emotional than men and there is nothing wrong with that.
Do you have to wear a face diaper in prison? I thought lockdown was a prison term. I guess we're considered prisoners because of Corona. At least obesity has been cured. 😷💩😷😵😷😱😷💩😷
As soon as she started "getting emotional" I was like "Oh very clever." Interrogations are a play and the detectives are both actors and script writers. Their job is just to get the suspect to say their lines and they are very very well trained in how to do that.
I knew some people would have an issue with her fake crying, but like people lose sight that these people have trained for this. Also, her mentioning a daughter that age? Detectives try not to ever talk about their children, it can be dangerous. That was a big giveaway it was an act.
Huh. When my ex girlfriend had a knife to my neck and it didn't phase me, she just stabbed me instead. She's not in jail, and was never arrested so massive dubski for me.
Lmao lee goes through 5 stages of grief at the last part its kind funny for me for some reason but i'm not saying i like seeing people goes tru that (im not a sadist).
Really positive video Skippy. At this writing you have 15-million views. Keep it up so all criminals will know to invoke the 5th and never engage in a police interview. Its so good that you make it harder for police to bring charges against criminals. You're such a hero.
@juliano resuli Nah detectives never actually get that (visibly) emotional she was clearly just acting to make him feel ashamed of what he did and fess up
@Valerie Lefebvre nah that’s not how it works. she couldn’t have just walked in there and started crying right away it wouldn’t have worked. the guy was there for an hour manipulating him
@Valerie Lefebvre who were the male detectives u are talking about ? And how many times was this dude interrogated? Koz as far as I know he was interrogated just "ONCE", the other time they just took statements.
I just... idk man. My brother is a really. Really angry dude. And the Kind that was born that way. When he was two he would rip the coloring book pages out and shove them in the base board heater and crank it up to start fires, which he only did bc matches, lighters, etc. had to be locked up bc he always set fires. Even once used a chair to get on a counter, on a microwave, onto a fridge to get matches out if the fridge cabinet. He was 6 years my senior and my sister was 3 years my senior, when I was just 3-4 months old I was sitting in a pile of leaves with my big sister and my brother came out and poured gas on them and my mom came out as he was trying to strike a match just in the nick of time. The last straw was when he put a rubber band around my neck and tied it to the car door handle when I was still only maybe 6 months. My mom was set to take him to a mental Institution bc she had tried everything else and my grandparents insisted he came to stay with them. There incredibly stern nature met with infinite time as a result of there already being retired and very well off made too much of a structure for even him to buck against, but in high school he was always a bully and was always a bully to my brother and I growing up, and plenty of other awful things to me that aren’t worth even mentioning. Plus my grandmother was really bi polar and constantly leveraged things he wanted to make him the kid she wanted, so by the end of high school he’d wrecked three cars two almost killing him (one of them he hit a house at over a hundred and shifted the foundation significantly, called my mom instead of 911 and she only found him bc of dim brake lights) and was starting to go off the rails. Went to jail for stealing out of cars at the college with my cousin, fast forward to today, my cousin spiraled and is off the map, my brother has his own company(he’s always been incredibly smart and specifically business savvy and people skills kinda smarts, ha great at working people like a wolf of Wall Street type character) makes a shit load of money but stays with an insane abuser who almost caused him an aneurysm a few months ago, whom he beats as well, and there kids are either neglected or beaten by both of them, I raised them for about 4 years while I worked in the same city but we had a bit of a falling out and now he won’t let me see them. I talk to the oldest one bc she was my name listed differently in her phone and she is an angel and probably a big reason why none of the other kids have died. I hope that child is given the world some day bc she’s deserves it after all the weight that’s been shoved on her shoulders since before her 6th birthday. He’s got a fuse in a way and is mean in a way and an angry drunk(and he drinks.. a. Lot.) in a way that just has me so on edge that he’s gonna snap one day.
The reason they cut the actual admission of guilt out is because he asked for a lawyer and they ignored his request and continued with the interrogation until he confessed completely.
So they kept their lead secret because they didn't want to hinder a potential future prosecution? Not because they were concerned it might hinder their ability to find and rescue her if she was still alive? I hope I'm misunderstanding.
Hearing him say "You could have told her to leave you alone." Tells me that Savannah did try to ruin him to the point that he did what he did.
We all have people in our lives who won't leave us alone. Sometimes we think of ending them but we weren't in the same position and setting to do so and is still sane enough not to do so. This is just so sad seeing him realize that maybe if he had been more patient, he wouldn't lost his career and life.
Lesson learned: think before we act. Mind before emotion. :(
I'd like to be able to see his face, his eyes, the pulse in his neck, the strain of trying to look in control, the jaw muscles clenching, the lips nervously twitching, the forgetting to breathe....... No, wait, hang on, what am I saying, shit....it all sounds a bit "voyeuristic" in a kind of, gleeful and nasty sort of a way, dunnit.. sorry I'll get my coat............
lol you are gonna be such an easy prey for these detectives. EVERYTHING that is going on in a interrogation room is a setup. They don't just randomly put anyone in that room. If someone is in there, they have a purpose. Even the furniture in there are put in to places with strategic advantages. In easy words, it's an act. And if you can't see through that even after watching the later part of the video, you should never talk to the cops. No one should talk to the cops before meeting their lawyers but especially you lol
I hate to admit this, and I don’t mean this to be disrespectful to victims of murder, but watching someone lie through their teeth whilst everyone else around them knows the truth is weirdly fascinating. It’s just almost funny to see someone scramble for lies every sentence whilst having someone stare at them knowing the truth
@Zion Simanian If you haven't already, you should take a course or two in criminal justice. I found myself seeing crimes/criminals in a whole different (and very fascinating) manner. You would probably really enjoy it! (make sure you take criminal law - also fascinating!
if I were that guy I d probably also rather hope that people would believe everything I say. It s not that hard to convince somebody that you re believe him if that person is desperate. Like some child that wants chocolate and you tell him that you ll give it to him if he goes to dentist. Child will go to dentist if it s desperate enough for sweets just because you told him
Zion Simanian I’m the opposite, I find it cringe to watch someone stumble around and try to come up with an excuse when the detective already knows everything
It really makes you think if a good liar would get away with this stuff. I mean Radarte here certainly isn’t too bright. He sat alone for 90 minutes in a police interrogation room and didn’t bother to think about what he should say if they happened to bring up Savannah. If my neck had noticeable scratches, I would already have thought of a believable excuse.
Right. I got questioned before for a murder I honestly had no idea about. I went to work Monday through Friday and on the weekends played video games with my gf lol. They ended up finding the dude but what a day. I was Hella scared!
This dude f up so badly by talking to the cops that’s karma he was gonna pay anyway for what he did it was horrible !!!! But he should’ve keep his mouth shut taking to those interrogating officers put him down so fast !! Now he will think about it for the rest of his life so sad bro it couldn’t be avoided what was he was thinking why????? He doesn’t look like a bad bad kid just kinda stupid
All he had to say was they went for a ride to talk, argued, pulled over and kicked her out the car....the broke him start to finish in less then 1hr, bravo!
There are lots of reasons why an innocent person will not feel confident giving short answers. The police want to convict. They are content to pursue innocent people if they can make a case. So a suspect could be apprehensive for good reason.
i somehow feel sorry for him at least he admitted this fault and showed a human reaction this means he made a (huge) mistake and isnt a cold blooded killer
@Dairy Free Milky Way All the fish killed by Bonefish Grill were deemed serial killers and were awaiting execution by the state so technically it's not murder
This is OUTRAGEOUS!!! . I WILL NEVER EAT at BoneGill again!!! I don’t like how I feel about this I , they will be punished for hiring such slimy ego filth. They, should have prevented this. I TRUST MY FEELINGS OVER FACTS AND THIS JUST FEEEEEELS RIGHT. THERE I SAID IT!!! and in this fast PASTE world I don’t have time or attention! I got to generally got to look smart by feeling things out quick.
I don’t care about any of the facts or any of the other facts, boycott of BoneGill!!!
I could be a millennial so I like jumping onboard these sort of felt out things, I got to be part of something...but since contemplation, rezilience, compassion, health and integrity are becoming dead in some circles, I could be a lot of ages. And I am, anywhere from 16 to a stupefying 40 years old.
It would require some telapathic ability to figure that out at the time they hired him. He seems as unassuming as any other frat bro tbh, probably a good worker too since he became manager
I lived in Jacksonville when this happened and only lived a few miles from that bonefish grill. A lot of my friends actually knew Savannah and it was a shock to the entire community.
I can imagine. Ive lived in smaller towns where murders happened during my time there and yeah people start to talk and kind of look for suspects haha. Was it a known fact she used drugs in the community like he says she did in this interview or not? Im just curios no mal intent.
One non-Earth day a tiny dot that magically created itself floating in spaceless nothing rapidly expanded with the help of magical gravity from nothing...
this guy seems to me, is crying over himselfe like he got cought stupidly, like he done this type of work before but clean...id bet on hem that he has done more murders of young girls....zhis one couldnt be first... if he accsepted the oportunity like this, that means he was confident...u dont get confident from no wgere, u get it with experience....the meesed letters on messgs are the sing that he was overwhelming by the thing that he just done...allso the type of description of a boyfriend is the way he sees hemselfe....pure and clear psycho.....when he said that jail is gona kill hem, it ment that in jail noone will buy shit he sells, prisoners smell psychos on miles....this guy got hes sentence cheap, scum bag psycho rape killer, multiple i think...
It was an attempt to establish the perception of honesty and cooperation. Idk what the technique might be called, but basically its "i have nothing to hide, and to prove it ill be honest about something illegal that ive done."
Hidden Salami yeah it’s the whole thing where they’re like “oh if you’re truly innocent then you’ve got nothing to hide and should tell us everything because if you don’t then that’s suspicious,”
The footage of Lee crying over dying in jail makes me so mad. The girl you killed didn't even have this. She ended up in fire pit like garbage, and you dare to feel sorry for yourself when your life is gonna be spared.
@Rafael Elh when I was a teen I realized the power the hysterical woman voice has over people... it's true, nobody likes it so they give you what you want just to make it stop 😂
I mean, I guess it worked, but she was no Tammy Lee. She scared the sh!t out of me, too, and I'm innocent. I wonder if I had the callousness to murder somebody if she would scare me or piss me off, but watching it, she came off way too aggressive and I probably would have been crying for my lawyer.
@PK So true man, I own a jewellery shop here in India & some Indian women are so much into bargaining like they will spend 30-40 min arguing with you to lower the price despite being told multiple times to just leave don't buy from us. When I was young I will just leave the counter & will ask some senior staff members to take control. It was just too much, see this lady detective isn't even close to what I am saying.
I can't believe that even after inflicting wounds to 75% of her body and burning her in a burn pit, he has the audacity to say, "fucking Savannah" after confessing. Like he's blaming her. No words.
I'd imagine the wounds to 75% of the body, were due to burning her body. He probably strangled her and in the process of trying to remove the evidence, attempted to burn her remains. Preventing the coroner from being able to accurately asses the cause of death. There is no way he had the ability to burn a human body in his back yard. Not with out filling the neighborhood with the smell of burning flesh for hours. He failed at that, then dumped her in a body of water.
He is not blaming her, but the way he cries at the end, it does look like more rage against himself doing it and being caught rather than being really sorry. If he wasn't caught, would he have lived all his life with the remorse or wouldn't even mind it ?
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Ben Butz2021-08-08 15:26:23 (edited 2021-08-08 15:26:52 )
This was really difficult to watch. I was almost killed by a boyfriend, so it brought up a lot of emotion. He only did 70 days, "misdemeanor assault of a female". The only reason I am alive to type this is because, as I felt the fight leave my body as everything started to go black and the instant I accepted 'this is where I die' I somehow managed to calm myself down enough to just go limp. 'this is your only chance to live through this, girl' played through my head. So I did and it worked.
I'll be hugely fucked up for the rest of my life. 70. Fucking. DAYS.
Why?
He lawyered up and never said a damn thing. Gross, but noteworthy.
@Jelly Honey aw thanks for that. It was so hard. Then to feel so betrayed by the police and judicial system was borderline unbearable. I am very fortunate to have an amazing mother who was able to make it possible for me to get out and come home to her for some healing time, rather than living in a domestic violence shelter and changing my name.
@Daniel Sokolov thank you. I just want to say I didn't tell a little bit about what happened to me for any other reason than to point out that the courts and law enforcement don't always do the right thing. I am a real person and example of that.
I didn't even mention the part where I had to call 911 for a previous incident screaming and crying and begging for him to leave because he was attacking me...and I got arrested by the very people I called for help. The obvious older wounds/bruises/scratches demanding attention on my legs were disregarded. The bleeding wound on my face was what got him arrested as well. He bit me, and I had the imprint on my arm, lady cop spends a solid 3 minutes trying to get a solid picture of it but couldn't. She acknowledged it, she saw it with her own eyes...I get brought to jail and tell them what he did. '...he even bit me on my arm, I have a bite wound on my arm...' lady cop says no you don't, there's no bite mark.
This is a very real and completely true thing I went through. You just cannot assume what will transpire when law enforcement gets involved in your life. Victim, witness, or suspect it doesn't matter. They don't know you and often only see you at your very worst. It's so complicated.
Note - I was never convicted, the case against me was dropped after he was arrested the second time.
Hope one day you will find peace and love with your next significant other whenever you're ready. Im sorry to hear this! You're not a survivor YOURE A WARRIOR
@Lina Leo I feel you. Hope you can find peace of mind some day <3 Please, bear in mind that it's very brave to tell such story, you are a fighter! Lots of love!!!
So sorry this happened to you. You are right, law enforcement gets a whole lot wrong because they consist of fallen human beings susceptible to corruption just like the rest of us. I even have to disagree with some of the analysis in these videos. Basically whenever the commentator says, 'an innocent person would say or react like this instead of this' . I've seen how corrupt some cops can be, so if I were being accused of something I'd be well aware of that and would probably over explain things like supposedly only guilty people would. I'd know I'm not there just to have a friendly chat, no matter how nice they acted. I mean the tactics are obviously great and all for breaking truly guilty people, but the same tactics used on the innocent is another thing entirely. This channel needs to realize many good people are scared shitless of cops because the power has gone to many of their heads, which could make them appear as having something to hide.
Also, I don't mean to get all preachy on anyone, but I just wanted to say how Jesus has pulled me through so much. His judgement is the only one you can know is absolutely right. So while men may have failed us when we needed them most, God will bring true account to all, law enforcement included, when the time is right. Don't rely on anyone but him because man will always come up short.
@Bonheur-septsix I didn't search for it. Anyways true crime isn't necessarily always about boyfriends killing girlfriends. Also, sometimes you have to make yourself uncomfortable/do hard things in order to heal and grow.
Gosh that sounds so terrible I am so sorry for you, I couldn't imagine. That's almost as terrible as faking a story of terrible subject matter that ruins lives for attention.
@Gray almost as terrible? I was held captive for three month. Years of memories are just gone because of repeated blows to the head and possible damage to my brain from the first second and third strangulations blocking oxygen from going to my brain. I am so fortunate to have not only lived but also to not have to learn to talk, walk, and read
I had an ex who severely beat me 9 times then stalked me, kicked my door in and assaulted my friends boyfriend and got no jail time at all and also got an award from the mayor for the community service he did to look good for sentencing. He owns a business in a small stupid town so it scares me to think of what else he could get away with. The code name for me to say at work if he shows up and is bothering me is “summers eve” because we couldn’t use douche. I’m so sorry. Thank you for sharing. I’ve almost told mine many times and have always deleted it until a few days ago because people on the internet can be so cruel. My favorite: why didn’t you just leave? As if he wasn’t super manipulative and made sure I was dependent on him so it wasn’t like I could walk right out the first time.
Gray people like you are the reason people are afraid to say anything like this on the internet. I hope you never have to endure anything like that because abuse that severe really fucks with ones head and self esteem and changes people’s lives and outlooks and ability to trust completely.
hey! i'm so incredibly proud of you! sharing this couldn't have been easy <3 i'm so so so happy you're still on this planet living and breathing :^) i'm so sorry that the justice system completely failed you :/
@shazamantha I'm am so sorry for your pain. It's a different pain, like scar tissue on your soul. I don't get upset anymore when people don't get it, because really if they haven't gone through it, how are they to know? It's an unimaginable experience. I hope you are on your way to healing as best you can. Counseling helps, medication is sometimes needed, do not feel weak or broken if that's what you need. You take care of you and rely on your support system.
@Charles & Drusilla Keenan a one upper? The poor girl from the video WAS killed. This whole thread is so interesting to me; the things people will say when they don't have to look you in your eyes. I already explained why I posted it here, basically to say lawyer up. I know there are many hundreds of people who have been abused and sat in court alone and watched the guilty party not get punished or get a lesser charge. It's hard and it hurts. I mean I could list here everything he did, all of the court documents, my restraining order; but no, fuck that. I don't have to justify my own abuse. I don't hate all men now nor do I have an abusive partner.
I really want people to think and go inward and examine why so much hate rolls around in there. Maybe it's not hate maybe it's vulnerability because more and more women are coming to the surface and sharing their truth.
I am done with this thread completely now ( unless you need help, then leave a comment and we will go from there).
I want to end with thanking you all even you hate spewing naysayers. I grew from this and that's the goal, right? To love and be loved, and to never stop growing, learning, and changing.
Remember everyone never speak without an attorney present. Unless you actually committed the crime(s). In which case: Hell yeah man you got this you can outsmart those dumb cops for sure.
If anyone is curious, his defense team claimed last minute it was self defense and savannah attacked him while high on heroin and the trial has been delayed a few times, now it should take place in January 12 2021, very soon!
What? Self Defense my a**. That door swinging open 3 times with it being immediately shut doesn't seem like self defense to me?. What is that 5 ft 1 girl over powering him 3 separate times.. even if it was(which we all know it wasn't).. why get out.. and slash her tires? Lol. Nothing more I hate than a 'they obviously did it but we gotta reach' case that drags on.
Saw this comment before i finished the video and now i’m sad the trial hasn’t happened yet yikessss hate cases that have not been resolved yet :/ hopefully the ‘self defense’ argument won’t hold in court considering the evidence
@Francisco d’Anconia I’ve done lots of F n H and it’s like literally IMPOSSIBLE to attack while nodding lol idk how he thinks his argument will hold in court
@Scringus Boof yep. Hey if you’re clean now, good job, keep it up. If you’re not you are not alone. Get a phone and call for help. The world wants you back.
Also to be fair for the guys argument he could just say the door opening and closing was either him trying to get her to leave or him trying to leave. I am not saying it wasn’t her, but those options are on the table with his Alibi
It should be a airtight case. They have an admission of guilt, evidence of him lying to the police multiple times, undeniable property damage, the car door, a deliberate disposal of the body to hide evidence, and the sheer physical difference between them. She likely couldn't have been a threat to him whatsoever, especially since we know for sure that he had a knife on him, and he even said that she was on heroin, something that makes a person much more passive. There's also a crystal clear motive, and the breakdown he had here pretty clearly shows that her killing was intentional. If this isn't death sentence, then it should be life with no chance at parole, no alternatives.
Female detective is again making it about her...dont.waste our time.
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Terra Starr2021-07-30 02:03:43 (edited 2021-07-30 02:05:56 )
There was a glimmer of humanity, no matter how broken it had become. I was hoping that at least one of JCS's videos would end this way. It's... almost relieving to see someone tell the truth and show emotion- NEVERMIND HE PLEADED NOT GUILTY
MY EXACT REACTION. I WAS LIKE "wow he actually has remorse and reason." He's looking back at his life. He had dreams and goals and morals. Ope. Nope jackass. But I wonder if that was his lawyer telling him to say that.
@RazMatazz the person there is going to jail and his emotional status is in the peak so we can't think about the usual when we are talking about him. He will be thinking about a lot of stuffs at the same time. So the most probable case is that he isn't acting but there's still chance he might be but only he knows that and we shouldn't speculate about it since we don't know it.
@RazMatazz There's really nothing that weird in talking to yourself. Tons of us do it. And if you're in an extreme emotional state you'd be surprised what comes out of your mouth alone or not, and normal for you or not.
You can tell from the animalistic sounds he makes that it isn't staged. You can just feel that it's genuine emotion. Whether that's remorse or just feeling sorry for himself is another matter.
"He was known for his charm and charisma amongst his colleagues, and also had a lot of success when it came to the opposite sex." My brain absolutely refuses to believe that.
Have you ever worked in the restaurant industry? I've met 10 of these guys. If you have access to drugs and are decent looking you will have a ton of "success"
Indeed, that background research they did in his circle, evidently had not much to do with reality.. Just a junkie simpleton, probably surrounded by such. Charisma? Mitsubishi?
@hipsting hey buddy it’s so easy to bash someone when they do something wrong but I’m confident that he was indeed popular and charming lad. You’d be surprised how many criminals aren’t just ugly,socially conservative dudes who lived a horrible life. Plenty of good looking rich folks behind bars albeit how long they remain is a Different story due to the court system and lawyers.
Your comment sounds ridiculously jealous and someone who thinks all bullies are ugly losers when reality could not be more different. Be careful judging based on looks. Just because they’re pretty or charming doesn’t mean they’re innocent.
What I find especially unsettling about all this is the guy was so close to being a normal successful human. I'm 100% certain I would never kill anyone but I doubt this guy thought he would either. I don't know something about that just scares me
@Drew Yeah but he's not a sociopath with obvious personality disorders like a lot of killers we see. I suppose that's not particularly un-ordinary but I just wonder if this guy would have ever killed anyone and became a successful member of society if he never met Savannah. Don't mistake my curiosity for sympathy though.
@VicVinegar one murderer stated that there are 2 types of murderers "those who feel too much and don't know how to handle it, or those who don't feel at all" this was clearly a crime of passion.
@tomaa al mbark thats not accurate at all. Where every human CAN physically kill another person many humans (even if in a life or death situation) would not kill. Every person has a variety of responses and some people freeze upon a desth situation requiring them to kill. It takes a lot for someone to even kill in defense
@BreathofFreshAir it’s the matter of whether they fail while trying to or get overpowered you said freeze as an example if they given time to process the shock and the situation they would fight too unless they given up on life and that’s another whole thing you either kill to save your life or someone else’s if there’s no other way to prevent harm it’s just instinct that’s in everyone a mother might not kill for herself but she would for her kid
@Cakelinky this guy admitted to taking aderall before the interrogation that day! So run that by me one more time. OF COURSE drugs have everything to do with what he’s saying. He’s an addict. Pill junkie. I’d bet $ most murderers are drugged out at some point. I’ve heard actual junkies say they “feel too much”. Very similar statements made to the one mentioned above . It’s excusing away their behavior. They don’t “feel” any more deeply than the rest of us. It’s their damaged brains talking.
@BreathofFreshAir here's the thing. Talking about it is theory. One must be in a death to death fight in order to really know there true GRIT. Though I would say, if you're winning a fight and you stop as soon as you can see the other person is helpless, then you don't have a killer instinct...
@Trevor Jones This wasnt a crime of passion Einstein.... pay attention of what you are watching, this video gave u the reason of why he killed her, the girl were about to reveal everything about their relationship, as a manager he could have been fired bcuz of that plus he was in an another relashionship, it seems that the girl probably blackmailed him into staying with her or something that leaded to the discussion in the parking lot then he snapped, it seems that this guy could did everything to kept his place as a chef manager, look how he cherished his coat saying that this is the last time he will have to wear a chef coat, hes just a cretin, he used his place to fornicate with coworkers but that turned badly at him when one girl decided to not let him getting away with it... poor girl tho.
@siu ken you literally described a crime of passion. He’s “passionate” about his job, he was scared he was gonna lose it. If it’s not a crime of passion it’s premeditated murder which would mean he meticulously planned out her killing beforehand, which I highly doubt given how this went down
@Derek Raynaud smh lol wtf you are talking about, a crime of passion is a crime derived from a relationship not from any kind of passion, and i highly doubt that he premedited the crime otherwise the scene couldnt had happened in the middle of the street as he killed that girl in his fuking car, so like i said earlier he snapped, he killed that girl out of pure rage..
@siu ken a crime of passion means a crime in the heat of the moment. Those are the only two options. It was either in the heat of the moment (which it was, its a crime of passion) or it was a premeditated murder. Also he could’ve planned to do it in his car, but he very obviously didn’t plan anything lmao
@Derek Raynaud Well i just checked the english def of crime of passion (crime passionel in french) and ive to say that english langage is very weird, its regrouping every kind of crime that happens suddently which is false, a "crime passionnel" from the french ppl it only derived from lovely relationship or jalousy.... so you werent wrong since the def in english is totally false.
It's the realization that anyone is capable of evil. Knowing that, however, means that you can keep a close eye on what you and I and everyone could become, if circumstances were different, and walk the path of good instead of evil.
It's what makes these stories so interesting and dark. But for the grace of whatever is out there, we could be him. Its something that's under the surface in all of us in some ways. And also why we are drawn to it, to maybe help us understand that unreachable dark part of ourselves and try to rectify that with our own self image.
@Cheerios for honkies Yes everyone feels the exact same way as you. Also people who have depression just need to stop being sad and be happy. People who are fat should just stop eating. All of our neuro chemistry and life experience is exactly the same.
As emotions operate you, as a clue, being outside the normal range is causing abnormal function. It can help to know that. Do you know someone who is that way?
@Cheerios for honkies under what circumstances do you deal with them daily? Because you're talking complete nonsense. My first comment was sarcasm. I was just seeing if you'd agree with it.
@nutzeeer One of my friend's was locked up with Raymond Clark, the man that killed Annie Le at Yale and stuffed her body into the wall at the university. He was/is just like the guy in this video, normal, decent job, no clear signs of anything being off. And then when Annie was going to expose their affair, to both of their significant others he snapped in the heat of the moment and killed her.
Other than that moment, where he snapped, he is basically a normal every day guy.
I noticed that affairs lead to a lot of irrational murders. And more times than not, it's the person who is cheating that committees the murder.
@Connor Shaw Exactly. It's like the theory about putting a frog in a pot of water and then heating it up slowly to a boil. The frog doesn't realize the water is heating up until it is too late. These people have slowly gotten caught up in bad situations for themselves. Then one more thing, pushes them over the edge and they snap in the moment.
I wonder if the women were saying things purposefully to push the killers buttons, or not. Said things by accident to push their buttons. Or said nothing, and it was too late as soon as she got in the car.
@Connor Shaw makes you wonder what kind of shit lies dormant in people until they snap. I think the same kinda thing watching those Hoarder shows because they were usuallly mostly normal before some traumatic event and now they are coo-coo bananas.
It’s extremely shocking and sad that she was being attacked in a car in broad daylight, and no one saw it, the cars were parked fairly close to the restaurant too. She thrashed so much you could see the car shake through the security cam, yet not a single person noticed something was wrong? I can’t believe that’s how it went down, if at least one person saw the struggle maybe Savannah would still be here.
you know what's shocking? i got attacked INSIDE store once, and i yelled as loud as i could (i knew my fiance, his parents, and a woman were standing up front) and NO ONE heard me. the store wasn't even that big. that was the moment i learned that it's naive to think you're safe just because you're inside a store, with other people around.
You seem to think that being a manager this day and age means that you're somehow more competent than the staff itself or people around you. That's not how it works. All you need to be promoted to manager is to have a good track record in your current employment aka. no sick leaves, no fights, showing up on time, do extra shifts, and have a good attitude towards your bosses and for the current staff to like you to a degree aka. have no big issues with them. You need to be relatable and do as you're told that's all, basically any normal decent human. You don't actually need deep skills. By the way it's a fish grill .. you don't even need qualifications. Maybe a recommendation letter if I'm honest.
@Robert Fierce you wouldn't have to be even close to competent. You could be late everyday, or in fact it could be your first day . If you are in charge of the building ( a manager) a server or even janitorial staff how would you not notice cameras and probably a monitor in the very office you do paperwork in.
I think the restaurant he worked at was in a plaza. So I don’t think he was over the camera system. He’s a complete idiot manager or not for committing a crime on camera.
it was from a atm machine at the bank in the plaza if she basically would have parked any where else they wouldnt have seen here i worked there at the time of this.
@Donald Fletcher well first of all my condolences to your coworker I'm sure that was hard for all of you guys. But that explains a whole lot thank you for telling me that.
I don't think he planned to kill her then and there I think he panicked and snapped, killing her out of anger without even thinking how easy it was for someone or cameras to see him.
@Rusty Shackleford When I worked at Wendy's for over a year, there were no signs of any monitor showing a camera feed at any time. Camera feeds were probably handled by a security firm. Cameras are often designed to be a little inconspicuous, I don't recall seeing any outside the building, though there undoubtedly were. I'm kind of oblivious to that kind of thing, though, and its possible this murderous cretin in the video was, too.
@Anas Yousof In most American police departments, Detective is just a rank. There can be many detectives that do completely different investigation jobs. The narrator probably just calls them all detectives because it’s assumed they are one.
John D2021-07-05 16:22:59 (edited 2021-07-05 16:25:33 )
Like what did you expect happened during interrogations?
Detectives come in and sit down
Detective 1: (Stares down suspect in silence for half an hour) Did you do it? 🤨 Suspect: No Detective 2: Are you sure you didn't do it? 🧐 Suspect: Yes
(Detectives look at each other and angrily exit the room)
Detective 1: SHIT! (kicks water cooler) WE GOT NOTHING ON THIS GUY 😡 Detective 2: (shaking head in disbelief) Yeah. This asshole is good. I guess we gotta let him go and hope he feels guilty enough to do the right thing. Detective 1: (takes off shoe and sits on floor to pout) I think my toe is broken 😔
Has the JCS team considered doing an analysis of a convicted innocent person? It'd have to be a case where evidence came to surface after the conviction that without reasonable doubt proved their innocence.
When it was said it wouldnt be easy to watch i got worried he was gonna go all out and whack his head against the wall and it just be gross so i was sort of holding my phone away from me. But it was super interesting watching him just crumble and realise hes going to prison and he cant get out of it now.
@Mister Master it's like feeling sorry for Judas. Yes I can feel it. But it t seems wrong to pity the damned. We will reap what we sow. "As you have done to the least of these my brothers you did it to me!!!"
@heyysimone so so sad. He ruined his life and cut off that beautiful young thing from hers. I count the falling tears as they fall before my eyes. The man will have them tattoo on his face down both sides before his time is come.
I used to be friends with someone who acted like that. He would lose his mind in fits of rage in public. I think its what happens when a man has anger/control issues.
@Fish I'm just wondering what kind of criminals are you talking about like anyone who still is doing bad things and haven't changed anything in there life or do you mean by anyone who has ever gotten in trouble in general? I can say that honestly I've been able to change my life around I've done 4 and a half months in jail for a DUI and probation violation and I also had a possession charge but I'm now clean and working I was lucky I didn't get a felony charge in my life but I know that I could have very easily. But I don't agree with murder I really don't know what can make someone else take a life from someone else for nothing or any rapest.
Zombite Gaming right?! Oh my god. It in a way makes you feel sympathetic but for half a second! If! He must have known he was recorded. Battling his inner demons or whatever the term is. Horrible crime. Horrible person. I hope this man gets the full punishment for his actions
@S Did you ever have a job where you were supposed to do something one way but you found a shortcut that saved time and money? This interrogation saved lives. How long before he got spooked and ran? Did it to someone else along the way? Or killed himself before his victims family found justice?
They knew he was guilty of being with her. A confession is the safest thing to try to obtain from a guilty party.
The way they brought him in was shady as fuck though. How do you just pull someone in for questioning about a murder when you said it was old traffic tickets? Why couldnt they have just asked him to come talk about savannah?
Mohaimenul Islam thats is really what is was thinking. It was interesting that he was continually having a conversation between himself and not a simple exchange and thought process, putting blame on others and making it seem like a different side of him almost like and outside source pushed him to that decision.
@MissLovely42 I don't know what comment of mine you're referring to, as the only one i left was in response to someone saying these videos shouldn't be made public..
He wasn't by himself. He was with his demons. He was literally having a converstion with one. Sad AF really. Guy actually had some remorse. Not defending him just saying the whole situation is sad. Shitty upbringing, drugs, toxic relationships. RIP Savanah.
As someone who used to work at a bonefish in Florida and do drugs and sleep with other employees, it’s not a bad way to get through college as long as you don’t kill them
I'm on his Patreon. Lots of content there. Don't be like me, though, and binge watch everything. You'll end up right were you started: desperate, and wanting more.
I'm subbed to his patreon and his videos are great but to say he uploads "very frequently" is total bullshit. He is probably one of the least frequently uploading youtubers I've ever subbed to on youtube.
@Joseph P. I really really love his content but in all honesty he doesnt post much to his patreon at all. Despite this, it's still the best dollar I spend monthly. 🤷♀️
Lee: Call me Ishmael. Some years ago—never mind how long precisely—having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people’s hats off—then, I account it high time tozz get to sea as soon as I can. This is my substitute for pistol and ball. With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship. There is nothing surprising in this. If they but knew it, almost all men in their degree, some time or other, cherish very nearly the same feelings towards the ocean with me.
This is a really interesting story. You should finish writing it for real! Like I don’t know what time period this is taking place in but based on the verbose prose and dialogues I would say it’s most likely during the whaling days so I’d imagine these journeys in which you take leave to the seas it would be for the purpose of whaling being that whales provided so much in those days for merchants of all kinds. I just wonder where you could go with it to make it engrossing. Perhaps you become fixated on some object or being that consumes you. Like a whale. And then maybe it swallows you whole and you end up in the belly of the beast. While there you find that your nose grows when you lie and a friend you’ve made along the way, maybe something like a cricket, helps you escape.
I don’t know but you’ve definitely got something here.
@AxelSpott I have no idea if you're being genuine or not 😂😂😂 I was about to correct you and say it's from Moby Dick but then I asked myself "wait how does he automatically know it's about whaling from the language alone? Is he in on the joke?" and then you summarized the story of Pinocchio and now I'm confused again. Thank you for the unintentional brain twister 😔😔😔
@Chase I’ve worked at a lot of restaurants and usually there the ones doing coke because it’s a fast paced job you can’t be nodding out on h serving food lol suspicious
@Stephen Roberts I worked at a tilted kilt for quite some time I have seen some shit lol every job I’ve worked at my atleast one or multiple co workers were doing some sort of drug. Drugs don’t discriminate. And I’ve worked as a caretaker all the way to a server a barista a waitress and toys are us and party city lol
@Stephen Roberts but some people hide it very well. I’ve known several heroin addicts who had jobs paid there bills etc there works never knew. I’m never gonna judge someone for the shit they do in there own time I mind my own fuckin buisness. Everyone’s got some kind of vice or Demons. Addicts aren’t bad people.
@Gabriel Malek Bruh what? No shit he's not innocent, taking prescription meds without a prescription means your'e guilt in America. But you've definitely never been arrested if you think admitting your'e on drugs is not normal.
@Everything13ish I live in Indiana just outside Chicago. I’m well aware heroin addicts can keep up a full time job. I WAS a heroin addict. Most of the chick I was locked up with were heroin addicts. There’s a lot of people who can keep up the facade but it never can last forever. Shit always hits the fan at some point. Some people can ride the wave for a ahwile some can’t. I’d see chicks at my dope dealers constantly just sickly looking sleeping with men for drugs. I’m never going to judge someone’s struggle. I don’t wish the pain I’ve been through on anyone. I even lived in my car at a point. But living that life waking up sick every day chasing dope it’s not something that can last everyone hits there rock bottom. Trust me I know how big the opioid epidemic is. I’ve watched a lot of people I love die. I was simply stating about how drugs don’t discriminate your co worker your doctor the check out girl at the grocery store. Anyone who sells drugs will tell you all kinds of people do it.
@Donut dude he's rambling because he is guilty not add. If he had add he would most likely go off-topic and start talking about other stuff. but if you don't have ADD and you want to convince the police you continue talking about the same subject for 5 or ten minutes. Add people can't concentrate on the same subject for this long. Figure it out
Detective: “So how long have you known Savannah?" Lee: "The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it. It began with the forging of the Great Rings. Three were given to the Elves, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. Seven to the Dwarf-Lords, great miners and craftsmen of the mountain halls. And nine, nine rings were gifted to the race of Men, who above all else desire power. For within these rings was bound the strength and the will to govern each race. But they were all of them deceived, for another ring was made. Deep in the land of Mordor, in the Fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged a master ring, and into this ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.
One ring to rule them all.
One by one, the free lands of Middle-Earth fell to the power of the Ring, but there were some who resisted. A last alliance of men and elves marched against the armies of Mordor, and on the very slopes of Mount Doom, they fought for the freedom of Middle-Earth. Victory was near, but the power of the ring could not be undone. It was in this moment, when all hope had faded, that Isildur, son of the king, took up his father’s sword.
Sauron, enemy of the free peoples of Middle-Earth, was defeated. The Ring passed to Isildur, who had this one chance to destroy evil forever, but the hearts of men are easily corrupted. And the ring of power has a will of its own. It betrayed Isildur, to his death..."
I've watched this video a lot and each time, I wonder why he went on this diatribe about doing drugs after being asked 'how do you know Savannah?' I only realised now that it was because he wanted to smear her name as a heroin addict to give himself more credibility
@Szymon Gorczynski true! it also explains his regret after confessing...i think he was high af on something and got paranoid she would say at work they're together so they argued, maybe fought and he killed her in a rage attack
@Manu Shapopi Lmao its funny how you have a defensive attitude towards this. Don't even know what to tell you, I feel stupid for forgetting to take out the trash, I really hope I never find out what it feels like killing someone. I probably wouldn't call myself stupid though.
@Manu Shapopi I agree with you. It is obvious that the decisions we make, especially the quick ones, based on our past experiences. Most, if not all, abusers were abused. The victim in one case can become the accused in the next. It's not fair to just say that "he is a monster" and therefore he deserves what happens. I hate what he did, and in no way justify it, but it is possible to feel compassion for both the victim and the accused in all cases. No one, at birth, would choose to lead an unhappy, monstrous life. We would all like to live happy, healthy, moral lives but we do not all get the chance to learn how to do so. I am not saying that he should be given the chance to do this again, but rather that we should focus on the lifetime of events which lead to these horrible ones, and in doing so help avoid them. Calling him a monster is a cheap way to offer condolences to the victim - it does nothing to help anyone, it just makes us feel that we are not that same as the monster. No, we are just lucky to be someone else.
@Fee V. It is possible to feel more than one emotion about a situation. If someone steals food from a store to feed their family because they truly have no other way to do so, but in doing so takes the food off of someone else's table, would you simply hate them and call them a monster? I would hope not. These situations are complicated. Choosing to hate murderers and defend victims is the easy way - lets you feel moral for a minute. It doesn't help anyone and anyone with sense knows you are only doing it to show off. We all know murder is bad, lol. Manu never said murder is ok, just that critiquing him saying "stupid!" is silly. Obviously, Rodarte feels it was stupid, and it was indeed stupid. He comes across as self-centred, but also less self-centred than most murderers and more introspective than you.
Adam Henry2021-01-06 19:40:40 (edited 2021-02-03 01:12:27 )
Jodi Arias will take you to the Neolithic era just to tell you she loves the Ten Commandments, puppies and her totes not jelly relationship with Travis.
Baba O'Riley starts playing "Woah woah,see that guy right there?"
"Looks like he’s hit rock bottom."
"Well that guy is actually me."
"Now I bet you’re wondering how I got into this wacky situation."
"It all started in the summer of ‘86.”
@MangoRQ Yes.Any battle between emotion and reason the emotion wins.Having the female police officer in the interrogation room with great voice inflection and emotion in her voice helped in breaking the murderer down.
I don’t think I originally realized what a fantastic job these investigators did. This would be a very difficult case to prosecute without a confession
This is the most emotional I’ve felt in comparison to other videos.. I got goosebumps and started to cry when the narrator explained his confession… that’s horrible.. poor poor girl..and her family. RIP Savannah..
As someone who’s struggled with depression, tragedy, and anger issues I’ve been in bridge burning situations before. None of the actions were murder though and future outcome wasn’t as final is 40 years in prison. Still I can at least get an idea of how Lee was feeling. Although I’ve done stupid things myself I can at least say they my actions were redeemable and that I’m trying to fix things right now.
I personally feel like it was somewhat satisfying. If that were my family member, I'd like to know he was suffering and scared of what he was faced with now.
@Azita Saed There's literally no reason to believe it was fake. Man I swear, some of you people can't even watch the video and get what's going on at the end EVEN WHEN the narrator is telling us in plain language what's going on and what the underlying psychology of the situation is. All because you think they know sooo much with their degree from Cereal Box University University, Reddit Campus.
@yowch Well the thing is the narrator who has actual degrees in this shit literally told us, the audience, what is going on, and they still act like they 100% know for a fact it was only fake tears to look pitiful on the camera. Maybe it was maybe it wasn't, but I'm inclined to actually try to learn something from an educational video like this and expand my mind instead of watch it and have that educated narrator's opinion go in one ear out the other just so I can keep my most likely wrong preconceived notions.
Oh man. I was questioned by the Loss Prevention guy at work one time while I was on Adderall one time and even though I was innocent, that level of anxiety is sky high lol. Can't imagine if I was actually guilty lol
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A V2022-01-18 19:35:09 (edited 2022-04-12 07:44:08 )
29:10 Wow, for the female officer. Manipulation, crying & begging him to appeal to some sliver of humanity left him. Her crying, begging & breaking voice eventually made made him confess....what a calculated performance. I get the feeling that he would probably never confess like that to a male detective. And God bless her partner... my sympathies
Apparently homicide runs in the family, his sister was arrested for an unrelated murder as well. That aside, never talk to the police without a lawyer. This monster would've gotten out of it on reasonable doubt had he kept his mouth shut.
Some of these techniques are also useful for any manager in any industry (it is also applicable in choosing true friends). Example and fact. If you are a newly hired manager who has managers reporting to you. If you ask, how was your weekend? The answer should be clear and short. "it was good" "It was busy". If they are start giving you a story from the beginning of time, you have a major problem in your hand, as critical thinking is something the person lacks, which in terms of work, this means the person would not be able to solve simple problems quickly; now, imagine a major issue. How was your weekend?
Lee: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And God said, 'Let there be light' and there was light"
I watched this interview on a different channel a few days ago. But I knew I’ watched it from yours again it would be allot more informative. Love your channel
with respect to the victim... can't a single kidnapper or murderer please just study the previous text messages for like a minute before texting? Like it is a very good way to find out something is wrong but just- it almost angers me because it is such a simple gesture, you open the convo you want to text, you look at the previous messages, you copy either mannerisms or genuine wording, AND THERE YOU HAVE A TOTALLY BELIEVABLE EXCUSE. Also... maybe like say something that would align with the victim's personality as well? not just a "I met someone, I'm running away with him". In this case it would have been more believable that she maybe said that she'd impulsively been at a friend's place, gotten high/drunk, stayed over and asked her mom to not tell anyone as she left for a rehab centre (maybe like confessing that she "had had a problem for a while") in the next town over, saying her phone is about to die but that she will call once she gets there.
I really put no thought into this so there are plot-holes, but like... would shit like this be more convincing? of course, good murderers don't get caught and smart murderers don't put themselves in such an impulsive situation.
Even if I didn’t commit a crime and get interrogated for whatever reason, the thought of a psychologist studying every vocal and physical move that I do alone would make me shit my pants.
8:45 this reasoning falls short when you realize that he knows it's about someone missing and that therefore the police need as much information as they can to help with the investigation, so it would make sense for an innocent person to feel the need to give a lenghty response. He wouldn't necessarily find that to be just an annoyance deserving of short & less helpful answer.
It would make sense for an innocent person to wait on the detectives to ask questions before answering. Her entire history with him wouldn't be important to a detective if he was innocent. Why would an innocent person describe their history with drugs? It's irrelevant. Someone who wanted to help wouldn't do that.
The part that really gets me is his apparent motive. He was going to lose his management position at some shitty restaurant? And that’s why he killed someone? Ok.
I can’t fathom being able to function AT ALL after doing that do someone you had an intimate relationship with… not that I could do anything like that but I’d be a complete mess… crying and vomiting and rolled up into a ball in a corner of some dark room…but he’s just as cool as a breeze! Poor girl… heartbreaking.😞 💔 Rest In Peace Savanah.🌿🥀
While watching this, I realized there's a good chance this guy would never have been caught if it hadn't been for the CCTV that had him dead to rights. 😳
There's a good chance he would've gotten away with it all regardless of the footage if he'd just kept his mouth shut. The detectives did good work in this interrogation but if he'd just sat there the whole time saying "I want a lawyer" they definitely didn't have enough to convict.
It seems like female detectives can be very effective at appealing to the emotions of the suspect. The only problem is in many cases these people are sociopaths and have very obscured emotional triggers.
I see a spoilt mommy's boy that was indeed good at his job and loved it. He got arrogant and started playing girls. Savannah being the decent girl she was, she was the only girl to try and dump him and so he couldn't take it. "You were supposed to make something of yourself" || "Savannah was good to you!"
Lee: "The missile knows where it is. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting the distant of where it was by how far it is, or the distance of how far it has gone by where it once was, whichever is greater, the missile can calculate where..."
Seeing him cry about going to jail makes me so sick. If I were him I would just sit there in silence and cry because I’d know I deserve prison and I wouldn’t further embarrass myself.
It blows my mind that this guy prob wants this shit to end so badly, that he confessed. All he had to do was say one word and it would have ended. Lawyer.
I don't think this channel realizes what they have here, this narrator combined with the writers choice of cases and attention to the psychological details. If they uploaded again, they would be rolling in subs.
They’re trying but if you check their videos and community tab, they’re in a rut. YouTube is targeting them and taking down their videos.
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Jacob Dijk2022-01-09 03:43:01 (edited 2022-01-09 03:55:57 )
I feel he wanted to go to the toilet to delay the inevitable conclusion.
Just as asking for another water.
Another interesting thing. Was the bow tie intentionally, to be less intimidating. Just like louis theroux’s geeky exterior. It makes him less intimidating therefore giving his interviewees the feeling they are dominant and blart out more than they actually want.
9:20 but it could be he has ADD or ADHD given the Adderall comment. If thats the case, then he would give a long and lengthy series of tangentially related statements regardless of context, setting, subject matter, or guilt/innocence.
Detective: "So how long have you known Savannah?" Lee: "It is a period of civil wars in the galaxy. A brave alliance of underground freedom fighters has challenged the tyranny and oppression of the awesome GALACTIC EMPIRE.
Striking from a fortress hidden among the billion stars of the galaxy, rebel spaceships have won their first victory in a battle with the powerful Imperial Starfleet. The EMPIRE fears that another defeat could bring a thousand more solar systems into the rebellion, and Imperial control over the galaxy would be lost forever.
To crush the rebellion once and for all, the EMPIRE is constructing a sinister new battle station. Powerful enough to destroy an entire planet, its completion spells certain doom for the champions of freedom.."
Sometimes I'm scared for my freedom. I talk too much even if not being asked. I'm afraid I'm gonna admit to a crime I didn't do just because I need to say something lol
I almost think that these people create their own alternate fictional reality in which they never screwed up and cling to it because it's preferable to the truth. This way, they can still think that they're good people. But the lie can be broken down.
Gotta love when people are crying alone at the end, and start acting all remorseful and sad, but that’s only for the camera. A lot like the parkland shooter, gotta put a show on for your pity party
I’m eating subway right now. It’s in no way hard to watch an asshat breakdown after confessing to a murder. What’s hard is thinking about what that family is going through.
At the beginning, I thought savannah got a text from her father that he has found some guy he loves and that he's gonna take off now. I was like whoa that's weird.
please add English subtitles (not-autogenerated) for non-native speakers please. your videos are amazing, but I miss almost 40%-50% of them due to language barrier :(
You guys are being questioned like this? 🤣🤣 Here in Tanzania you'll be abducted by police, get tortured for days in very inhumane ways including starvation, being hanged upside down while beating your balls, cutting your toes and peeling of your nails.
And this is all done in a police station and your name will not even be registered at that station. By the time they send you to jail to await your trial, you can't even walk or talk cause most of your teeth have been peeled of with a broken jaw
They may do all this to an innocent man. People end up admitting crimes they didn't commit just to end the torture. Lawless country
Very unprofessional from the female detective, I can see why shes emotional but if she can’t control herself surely sure shouldn’t be in on the interview
There are countries reducing sentences by fractions because judges believe the killers have remorse. This guy broke her neck, burned her body then tried to get rid of her burned body. Then, he kept lying about his killing. He is only sorry because he got busted. He doesn’t deserve normal people’s empathy.
It so sad to think of how she fought so much the car was shaking, he was marked, the car door kicked open, and she still lost the struggle. RIP Savannah
Why all the plastic bottles of water? This shows again and again in these interview videos. What's wrong with tap water? (Apart from anything else, a lot of the time the water in plastic bottles is tap water in any case.)
I would have conducted the interrogation differently. The guy was obviously easy to break, his knee was constantly moving up and down which gave alot away.
They should have stringed Lee along with his story about her getting in to his car. Asked if the car door shut once and then how she got in to the green truck and what he saw after she got out in detail and make it seem like they were believing him and then pretend the focus was now on the guy driving the green truck making Lee feel like he's out of the woods and think he was helping the detectives find the other driver.
Then they shouldve have slapped the evidence of how the car shook and the door kicked open 3 times and she didn't get out to contradict his detailed explanation, its likely he wouldve been speechless at that point as he would have been caught off guard. The interrogators should have then gone straight in for the kill and ask him where she was.
I don't agree with the 'begging' strategy the female detective was employing as it seemed like a rookie and desperate move as the second youre repeating the same question over and over and getting a cold shoulder, the suspect could have used that to his advantage and understand the interrogators were on to him and could have easily said "I'm not saying anything else until my lawyer is present" making it more dificult for the detectives.
It is not true that a person will always give a short answer to questions. I have always been the type of person that gives a lot of information to questions. In fact my Boss once said when i got done answering a question it would make you cry. So that is NOT always the case with people and many times even if innocent questions will go over the head of a person and they do not catch the meaning given to them. Not all people are the same.
Typical Dark Triad guy. At least in his social and work environment he would pass as the contextual Alpha (not necessarily a general type of Alpha). Getting the girls. Getting the promotions early on in his career. He would do the work (or pretend in a believable way), he would do the partying also. The world was his oyster. The bosses liked him, the women loved him, so everything had to be placed at his feet. Once he would not get what he wanted, he would get aggressive and confrontational to the point of commiting murder. It was almost a mathematical equation that little Savannah would fall under his charm. And then she found out the type of person he is. The moral of the story is not of course that such guys exist. The moral of the story is that these are precisely the guys that the majority of women get attracted to. Which tells us a lot about female selection criteria and how they are actually feeding these guys into being who they become. In the past one could explain the existence of Dark Triad guys by means of "violence, war, instability in society", i.e. in the sense that these guys thrived and reproduced in violence. Which is not at all the case since in reality these type of guys are doing vastly better in times of peace and liberalisation of morals. It is calculated that today, they don't just have more sex with more women but on average they reproduce more than the other types of men. While Dark Triad has a genetic element, the genetic component's expression's frequency is uncertain but overall it means that future generations on the overall won't be as "tame" as the current ones.
Detective: "How long have you known Savannah?" Lee: "The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine."
Is there not ANPR cameras around? Could they not track him via them and find out where he went when he drove out? In the UK that is what the police would do.
I know he's guilty lol it's obvious but sometimes it's a lil cringy to see cops get so desperate in their interagations like and get all fake dramatic lol
Therein lies the young man's problem: at approximately minute 36:13 seconds he's still blaming savannah the woman he just murdered for the problem he now faces. Lack of responsibility is self will at its weakest, and will always live for what pleases self rather than another, even to the point of murder rather than taking responsibility of a situation. It's the immature ego and the devil inside us all. Self denial, repentance, and prayer for redemption is our only hope. May God reach this young man in his prison cell, as he did me.
We all have issues. We don't END HUMAN life over anything except REAL SELF DEFENSE! Meaning it was that or die ourselves no other option.. So pathetic. But God is the one who will Judge him. I pray for his family and foremost Savanahs family.
I was actually friends with Savanah in middle school. I sadly had to move away, but just so everyone knows, she was an amazing, beautiful woman and I'm so happy I got to be able to call her my friend at one point. I still can't believe this and I hope she's in the most beautiful afterlife. This makes my heart hurt so much and he deserved life in prison.. not 40 years.
Why is every person that died just suddenly became this amazing beautiful person? Yeah no one deserves to die especially of murder, but dying doesn’t make you a good person automatically :/.
@Princeofcups Poc I sat with her in my middle school of the art in Jacksonville Florida is my sculpture class and gym class in high school try the fuck again when you want to post shit about people knowing her because people on the internet want to think they know everything. Real cute. She was my friend.
Yall want to talk about my post when half of you guys didn't know her, when we were friends back when I was 14 she was a great person. So yall coming on her taking shit about my friend that was killed blows my mind. Someone was killed and I have good memories of them so yall want to say some fucked up things? Did yall even know her? Probably not
I felt really sorry for the guy. A determined life since his mother was an addict. In what shitty societies we live in? Sorry man that you have been an American. If you were a Scandinavian you would come out of the “remaking” place as a new person. Really sorry for you having been born in this country :(
LOL he is crying because he got caught and he is going to prison and having to face his fear of that is the only reason for his emotional outburst here in my opinion.
Florida jails and prisons are fucking mad houses and are extremely tough environments. All prisons are to a certain extent, of course, but Florida is exceptionally difficult
@Michael Jantzen Obviously was mainly her fault if he was telling the truth and she assaulted him. Dont assault someone unless you are willing to die, its common sense.
@Jonny Akster That assault would happen if getting strangled. Any person would try to get away from death by assaulting someone in defense which in her case, she did. Thus the murderer having scratch marks on his body.
@TheValkosuklaa Er. If you wanna take slaps without hitting back that's on you.
Not saying I even believe it was self defense in any way cause I don't know if she even did hit him, also not saying I'd kill someone for slapping me either, but I sure as shit ain't just taking it.
@Dale C Don’t get me wrong, you should stand up against anyone hurting you. But continuing after they have stopped or can’t hurt you anymore, it’s just not self defence at that point. And I’d imagine that a person who just slaps you, will stop after you have swung back once
He thinks that he's going to die in jail, no buddy your not going to the county jail you are off to the state penitentiary. You best stop your whimpering buddy and toughen up crying is forbidden in the state prison
He got slapped twice ... So he beat the shit out of her and closed the door twice as she tried to escape then burned her body and threw it out like trash Lee: self-defense! Nailed it.
"Mom. I'm gonna die when I'm in jail!" What happened Billy Badass? Fine with murdering a 5'1 90lb woman but crying like a pansy when faced with the fact that your reckoning is coming? Cry me a damn river
paxsmile you are setting yourself up there friend. A woman will tell you 5’11 is short and basically dunk on you.
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John Kotarsky2020-02-12 00:51:12 (edited 2020-02-12 00:53:32 )
I saw a lot of regret. That he was cough, and more regret, that he talked. He defended himself and snapped her neck? People necks don't just snap. three times a door opens? He never let her go. There is no defense in this.
@paxsmile I realize not everyone can be my size. Hehe, But seriously, he is only 160 pounds. I know high school kids bigger. That is a small dude for prison.
John Kotarsky like I said before I worked in a prison with 1600 dangerous men. Ask any officer and they will tell you the really small ones 5’5” and under) are the really violent ones. They have to make up for their stature.
"Mom, I'm gonna die in jail!" sounds a lot better than what poor Savannah would have said if she could, "Mom, I'm gonna die in the back seat of this immature, impulsive, idiot's filthy car when he squeezes the last breath from my lungs for absolutely no reason whatsoever!"
@Eric Harrison I'm 5'11 and my entire life I've been told I'm tall by girls and even other dudes. Not as frequently as someone who is 6'2 or above would, though.
“I know you’re not evil” knowing that’s exactly what he is. I say that to compliment how good this detective is at her job. Rest In Peace to this girl. ☮️
Agreed she said that to gain vulnerability and it worked.
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Nelson Raley2020-04-25 08:37:37 (edited 2020-04-25 08:40:17 )
Interrogator: “So how do you know Savannah?” Lee: “The world is changed... I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, I smell it in the air... Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it...
when he called himself stupid, i thought he regretted killing her, only when the narrator said it was over the confession i realised how messed up and unremorseful people like this are.
Well later he does say "I'm so sorry Savannah" and then "Savannah was so nice to you, of course somebody's gonna be a bitch to you". I don't know why I can't help but feel bad for him. If I had to guess, I'd say he likely had extreme anger management issues but isn't like evil, I don't know. Unless he knew they were recording him and it was all a show?
@Momera It's human to empathize with someone when they look so distressed (empathy can be a quality AND a fault), but at the end of the day, he is guilty of murder. So many of us have had fits of rage and didn't kill someone over them. Even then, the culprit may not have hidden the body and outright lied to the police if he regretted his actions. He was only sorry he got caught, and at that point was clearly confused over what he was feeling himself. Again, even in the event that he did come to feel sorry that he had killed her, then if arresting him was what was needed to trigger it, then good, because he was rightfully arrested. This man, no doubt, deserves punishment, and not for people to feel sorry for him. He is responsible for his own actions. He didn't give his victim, or her loved ones, whom he attempted to manipulate, a choice.
@Momera Agreed. He reminds me of an old classmate who was prone to fits of anger. A teacher would be asking him to read something off the board, and he'd get progressively angry until he was threatening her with a chair. The fact that Savannah had kicked the back door open twice makes me sick. The way she was brutalized makes me feel like it was in a fit of rage that her murder happened and as much as I despise him, there's something pathetic about him. I can't help but feel bad.
Anyone who thinks they're capable of murder should take at close hard look from 33:50 on. That's clearly not regret for just confessing, that's regret for turning his life into a living hell because he thought murder would somehow solve his problems.
Given he was blubbering like a baby when he confessed, I'm also of the opinion that he didn't intend to kill her, and regrets doing it. I don't think his regret is only for himself. Still, my empathy for him ends where he tried to cover his crime rather than call the cops and confess right away.
Why does his first response remind me of those online recipes where you have to read through 8 pages about the authors childhood before learning how to make the damn fudge cake
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Ray Ray2020-02-21 21:13:02 (edited 2020-02-21 21:14:11 )
Beth Horton: “If you have to wait for it you’ll appreciate it more!” - Aunt Bertha.
Now here’s my bread recipe but first I’ll tell you about the little town I grew up in. It was actually a countryside community with chickens and cows and such and I had an aunt who baked everything perfectly so we always liked going there because she made cinnamon rolls and real ice cream in a churn. As it turns out though her pumpkin pie was not actually made from pumpkins and her apple pie was sometimes not made from apples, but we didn’t know, so anyway................about that bread recipe......
How is it that everyone who's ever looked up a recipe online has had the same terrible experience, yet narcissistic food bloggers continue to exist? How can such people thrive in an environment where they're universally hated?
Landon Hagan: I don’t - I just scroll to the bottom of the page, glance at the ingredients and go to the kitchen and invent. I just like to see other people’s ideas sometimes.
The female detective is a fucking genius. Interrogators have what is called a "booth persona/booth voice" and her's is perfect for the approaches they were using. You can tell she doesn't actually feel this way, hell its even possible that she doesn't even have a daughter.But the suspect doesn't know that and that added personal pressure is brilliant from them.
I thought she was far worse then the other interviewer and should have let him control the whole thing. She fumbled her words multiple times.
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Tommy Mc2021-08-24 08:03:42 (edited 2021-08-24 15:30:35 )
Then she said please I’m Begging you multiple times…. Very unprofessional not needed during this interview. This man was on the verge of cracking, no need to “beg” him for anything.
@Tommy Mc I've seen this tactic before in other situations where they need to find where the body is, and the criminal hasn't admitted to anything. It's actually very clever. The female officer is highly trained and she was perfect with her timing and acting to get what she wanted. I've seen male officers do the same so called begging. The point is to get that result. Job done ! - On the verge is not a confession. It's like saying a woman is nearly pregnant.
@Jim led50jl Would have cracked regardless it was clear… provide one other instance of an interrogation where the interrogator begged someone to confess… I’ll watch the video happily.
@Glacier You very clearly have no training. Training haha! Why would you need to defend yourself to random internet strangers? It’s pretty clear you know quite little of anything that’s happening, and you’re desperate attempts to feign understand of the interrogation is so transparent. She really was not that necessary to the interview. At all. Anyone could tell you that. Clearly you’re training didn’t hahahah
@Tommy Mc you dont know how you would react in his shoes with thst lady there. It must've been planned and well... they literally got him to confess to murder in like 30 minutes... usually it takes weeks, not minutes, so they must've done something right. Especially since the male detective didn't do anything special here to crack him, quite the contrary, he fucked up big time once during this short interview... when he told the suspect "so when Savannah left the backseat of your car" when he never mentioned she was sitting jn rhe back seat (and why would she if he said they were just supposed to talk). He literally almost immidiately blew the whole investigation up because at that moment the suspect could have realised they are lying to him and know a lot while pretending they dont know shit. If he caught up with that, he would get scared and probably lawyer up immidiately or just stop talking
So in short, the male detective was aversge (not enough time to prove his worth) and then made s horrible mistake but thankfully it didnt backfire, while the lady immidiately started going over the top and like 5 minutes later man admitted to murder while 20 minutes earlier he thought he was being arrested for outstanding tickets.
It soes look stupid and silly, but who cares if it worked? Wtf
@Tootle I'm sorry but I just find it so embarrassing that you're using an overly formal way of speaking with big words to obviously make yourself seem more intelligent and yet you're trying to call someone else out for 'seeking validation', all the while not knowing the difference between 'your' and 'you're'. 💀
I never seen a cop do what she did she was killing my ears crying and begging than she talks normal than she get back to crying and begging she sound like she belong in the crazy house
@jungle357 drama are you also a cop? do you know the complete ins and outs of methods used in interrogations? you've probably never seen a cop do that before because you are neither a cop nor do cops reveal every single trick they use up their sleeves. it's odd that you think you know more about how investigations work than literal investigators.
Don't come at me cuz some of ya'll are unstable here but what the detective did was right. It's like hacking into the suspect. When females show emotion or say something that sounds personal in a situation like this it's more believable. While the male will be hard on the suspect and making the suspect feels threatened..im pretty bad at explaining stuff in English cuz this isn't my first language but i hope it's readable
@Tommy Mc oh god, the begging the emotions were a tactic, if you can't even see that you're as gullible as the suspect except his guilt is making him gullible, what makes you gullible?
@Kelly Lynch she doesn't care what she comes across as to a murderer, she acted as crazily or emotionally as she had to overwhelm and stress out the suspect and it worked
@Tommy Mc perfectly fine thank you, I'll tell you something that'll blow your mind though, possibly unlike yours, my brain can do a lot more in an hour than type out three simple sentences!😄👍
@Ziggy Pop another dude who thinks they know what's going on. It isn't hysterics, it's acting. All this shit, was written in a plan and approved by someone higher than them.
Russell Contreras No I just know a bad interrogator when I see one from watching 20 years of this stuff. It was awful, she should get some training from Chris Watts female detective Tammy Lee
Not that genius if you can tell she doesn’t feel that way! Second he’s a dumb as hell not hard especially as he gave in just by her pleading please please please a million times, what was so genius about any of these interrogators???
@Tommy Mc Pleading tactics are used just as much as the no hope tactic. Interrogators are allowed to do whatever they want within the interrogation room. It's not wrong that it isn't exactly genius to think of it, but it's hard to pull off considering the fact that within JCS's content you can see how hard it is for a person to multitask. Asking/answering questions and feigning emotions (Jennifer's Solution).
A woman in distress and pleading might've put him on edge and the reason why she mentions her daughter is to have an emotional connection. It's the same reason why someone might talk about their family when threatened, because it makes the perpetrator see them as *human*.
Please do not discredit the investigator just because she is a woman, because it's obvious that if the man did this, you would assume it was completely necessary. Let's be honest.
@Tommy Mc Really? Are you sure that you're not targeting the interrogator because she happens to be a woman, and she's using tactics that would work against a woman abuser? Because majority of this "critiques" from citizens that have zero experience in her job are stemmed from misogynistic views. Why is it that being too emotional is something that discredits her, or why is was it that it was completely unnecessary? They had her in the room for a reason, did they not? Gender has a lot to do with the undertones of your comments towards her.
Also, nice job avoiding every other thing I said in my comment that would prove you wrong about what you said abt the interrogator.
@im a cat I did but you seem very emotional and all over the place… then literally accused me of being sexist out of no where based on zero evidence. Anyway, hope you have a good day angry internet person… life’s to short.
@Tommy Mc My first paragraph was strictly about the tactic, provided with a reference to another JCS video. My second paragraph was about why I thought she did it. My third paragraph was the only one where I let my suspicion that you're just criticizing her because she's a woman.
There is quite literally no emotion over the first two paragraphs which you avoid, because I assume it proves you wrong. The third one was completely out of my own feelings of what you sound like. You are being very immature and too emotional. These passive aggressive comments are not professional. Very bad!
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Tommy Mc2021-11-02 03:07:02 (edited 2021-11-02 03:07:59 )
@im a cat Keep assuming I guess. And the feeling is mutual about maturity. Your first message came back to gender yet again. Pretty amazing… Either way have a good day internet lady. Even though You brought gender in this discussion out of literally no where and made assumptions. I still wish you all the best. ❤️
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im a cat2021-11-02 03:26:19 (edited 2021-11-02 03:27:16 )
@Tommy Mc You are still avoiding the rest of the comment. You are so dead-set onto that one flaw in my defense for her, even though I explained that what you're saying about a lady interrogator being "too emotional" has sexist undertones.
What don't you understand about that? That is a stereotype about many women before they got their highranking job (that they'd be too emotional to be fit for it) and it's not uncommon for people to still use it to single out a woman. That is all.
Also, you STILL just refuse to admit that the rest of the comment still stands unchallenged. Because, I assume because of how determined you are to avoid it, it is correct. Are you not going to do anything about it apart from letting out the bitchy cry of "ya being too emotional"?
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im a cat2021-11-02 03:36:34 (edited 2021-11-02 03:39:43 )
@Tommy Mc Also, I brought in gender into the discussion because it's an important thing to mention. Are you saying her actions were unnecessary and unprofessional because of the begging? Because I said something about that in my original comment. If you cannot bring anything else up, then you have to admit that it is because of your own profiling because otherwise, how else would you come to that conclusion?
Added onto your other claim that "he was going to crack regardless", that is sort of true. He has shut down multiple times and before that display the interrogator put on, didn't seem to want to get past the simple answer of "I don't know".
Her begging included telling him that she didn't think he was a bad person, that he should just tell us where they went at LEAST. Do you understand why she said at least? It's to lure him into admitting he /WAS/ the last person to see her. Although they have video camera evidence, he can deny deny deny until they catch him on tape admitting to that yes, he was the last person known to see her.
Then, once he admits to that, they can build on top of that. She was doing her job great.
This comment reply section is hilarious and I want so say my opinion on some stuff 1. In an interrogation they make their plans carefully so if u think the woman acted unprofessional the man probably knew and they worked on it together 2. Don’t make fun of someone’s voice to justify how ur opinion is of their profession 3. It worked very well so none of this matters anyway 4. This case was only meant for the suspect and not for you to watch so ur opinion on her voice doesn’t matter and u don’t have to watch it or be rude about it 5. This job is all about mindgames and getting people to break, confess, or give enough info it use against them in court so the method doesn’t matter as much as long as it works and gets the job done This is just my opinion If u disagree good for u ig but don’t use my grammar or insult me personally to prove ur point. Have a great day/afternoon/night :)
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Tommy Mc2021-11-03 01:08:24 (edited 2021-11-03 01:09:25 )
@BatzDoArtz This was a good way to frame your argument and all were good points that you made. No assumptions or name calling and you stated it was your opinion and you are right none of this really matters.People now days seem to get offended when others disagree and resort to assumptions and name calling. Civil disagreements are rare these days. Have a great night :)
@BatzDoArtz IDK, its mostly due to the fact that there was literally no reason as to why someone would call her out for being unprofessional (other than they just don't like women or they have little understanding of the subject, which why even make a comment on it if you're just spewing rando stuff), so even if what you said is literally the truth and she's doing her job correctly, there's still going to be people who says it's an ""OpInIon"" because they want an easy way out of people calling out their bullshit.
People get angry because it's just sort of a justice thing they have, me included. You're gonna find a lot of those kinda people under a JCS video because it deals with.. well, justice. They're not doing anything wrong (unless they are threatening a persons life), because just saying "you're a piece of shit" is way more relieving than just going back and forth with a brick wall.
The investigator's are a great team. Everytime the female detective intervenes the other detective doesn't turn to look and keeps eye contact with the suspect
I was thinking about that, even something as simple as being able to scroll on Instagram without worry or concern I bet feels like a luxury to him at that point. Its like a subtle way of giving him some existential dred.
"Jesus christ, could you just admit already? We know you did it, I want to go hang out with Becky and Mackenzie so we can parteyadadadadadaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
I hope he felt even an ounce of the pain or fear Savannah must have felt in that car.
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s w2021-06-20 15:05:43 (edited 2021-06-20 15:08:47 )
I do not feel bad about drug-users and those who become slaves of some f-boys. All of them are pure mess!!!! Yikes!
Edit: I know I will get attacked a lot because of my opinion because people don't want to realize how bad those two things are. Stay away from both of them, at all cost!!! You don't have to do all huge mistakes in life, if you can learn those mistakes from other people. Look at them closely and see their pathetic lives!
I don't think it was fake crying since you can see her wiping tears away. I'm certain the crying was intentional to try and play on his emotions (assuming he has any), but it wasn't "fake" per se.
@Dog Space Cadet It's not that uncommon to actually get tears when you pretend to cry. Or even cry about something unrelated (a recently deceased familiy member or something) I don't think the tears say anything at all about wether it was real or not.
Detectives aren’t supposed to get emotionally involved in cases such like these, it must be hard but I think it might have been acting to throw the suspect off.
Eekiki Good point, perhaps she genuinely had some emotions bubbling up and she tried to capitalize on it. Noticed she weeps a bit when talking about her daughter, which closely follows the male interrogator asking if Lee has children. I think they were building toward a “Lee, if you’re a real man and a good role model you’ll confess”
Tahkeem Hilton2.0 - well the detective wasn’t going to completely lose her composure, and start bawling and run out the room in tears. She did have a job to do. Doesn’t make her emotions fake. I can tell you’re a very binary thinker that doesn’t do well with complex topics.
it was actually pretty bad, and also kinda unneeded at this point, like "we have proof" is gonna get more out of him than her fake crying that wasnt even that convincing.
Gamesux - She was was just briefly emotional for a few moments. You’re exaggerating her behavior. She spent the large part of the interrogation cornering the suspect with facts. Are you guys just irritated and bytchy over professional women w/ power over male suspects?
@Dante Good I never said that she kept up this behaviour for a longer time and I don't know what you're trying to insinuate with that last sentence my comment has nothing to do with her beeing "a professional women with power over a male" and you might just be delusional. She clearly stopped earlier than she would've because It didn't work on him, which kinda already proves my point. So there's really no room for discussion, have a good day. :)
@Brian Evans She was acting, dude. 29:21 "but damn it, she's someone's kid!" People don't really throw "damn it" into the middle of a sentence like that. If she were trying to be an actor, I'd recommend some more lessons and a good writer, but this clearly got the job done. The male interrogator did the same thing, really. He got emotional, tried to appeal to the suspect's sense of responsibility, of duty. The lady just came in to add the sense of a mother's fear to it all when he was pushed into a corner.
Gamesux - just kinda stupid to say her tactics were “unneeded” when they hadn’t received a confession yet, and her interrogation strategy led directly to the confession. Just seems like some would rather mock her than commend her for reasons I already stated.
@Dante Good it didn't work not until they said that they had evidence she literally said "cameras don't lie" that's what did it please stop talking for the love of god
@Gamesux if you're a regular on this channel you know how hard it is for investigators to get a confession, even with overwhelming evidence. It's common to use different techniques. Also, they need to be careful so that the suspect don't stop the interrogation by asking for a lawyer. In the end, he didn't lawyer up and confessed. Both did a good job.
Happy Wandered I'm curious if she made her emotional reaction seem so fake on purpose, to see how he'll respond to being looked down upon and emotionally manipulated
Detective: "So, how long have you known Savannah?"
Lee: "When Mr. Bilbo Baggins of Bag End announced that he would shortly be celebrating his eleventy-first birthday with a party of special magnificence, there was much talk and excitement in Hobbiton.
Bilbo was very rich and very peculiar, and had been the wonder of the Shire for sixty years, ever since his remarkable disappearance and unexpected return. The riches he had brought back from his travels had now become a local legend, and it was popularly believed, whatever the old folk might say, that the Hill at Bag End was full of tunnels stuffed with treasure. And if that was not enough for fame, there was also his prolonged vigour to marvel at. Time wore on, but it seemed to have little effect on Mr. Baggins. At ninety he was much the same as at fifty. At ninety-nine they began to call him well-preserved, but unchanged would have been nearer the mark. There were some that shook their heads and thought this was too much of a good thing; it seemed unfair that anyone should possess (apparently) perpetual youth as well as (reputedly) inexhaustible wealth. ..."
The female detective who was being very straight up and aggressive at the end, definitely helped a whole lot in this case. I can tell that it made him panic and know that theres no convincing her otherwise.
@Edgyjeans yea female detective was fucking horrible she was getting too emotional it was only the fact that they had evidence that made him realize he was screwed and confess
Id say she could use a bit more finesse that the male detective had. She was getting very emotional yet claimed to be a “fact finder” just like the much more nonchalant male detective. Although im not a criminal psychologist so maybe not
@Bull Studalphamonster doesn’t matter she did what she had to do and played the role she had to. Y’all don’t do this job and have no idea what is needed I don’t understand how you think u can critique a person who has done this many times.
@Aria jackson Right? So many people in the comments bitching about her. She got the confession, what more do you need?
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Anthony M2021-08-08 11:50:11 (edited 2021-08-08 11:51:07 )
@Edgyjeans the interrogation worked either way, the pressure was too much for him, he cracked, and confessed. So i guess she wasn't that terrible was she?
@Tortoise Of Legends she got the confession? More like her partner did. Not to belittle her in the slightest but let's not act like she was alone in that room and her fake crying and getting too emotional and unprofessional is what made him confess.
@Dj_M1 its not any single thing that made him confess it was everything combined but emotional manipulation is very effective when used with correct timing and doing it correctly and thats what she did so she definitely played a major part in the confession
@Dj_M1 thats not what she did tho she didn't overreact that much and she was literally just trying to go for his humanity to make him regret everything she was emotionally manipulating him while he was already stressed which is why it worked
Imagine her being the interrogator in Jennifer Pan’s case and she’d get nothing out of her. The dude was in trouble the moment he knew the footage incriminated him regardless of whoever may have told Lee about it.
Exactly. Some of yall in the comments saying she should be fired as if they can do any better lmaoo, yall have no idea what was decided upon prior to the interrogation. Both detectives did their jobs and did them well!
The people saying the female detective was awful and too emotional, although that is a common characteristic of female cops, I’m sure that was done intentionally. It probably made him think of his mother, or Savannah’s, begging him to help her. She was quite annoying, no doubt. She seemed impatient and annoyed at being there since she couldn’t stop looking at her phone.
@ everyone in these replies: how many of these jcs videos have you watched where they actually got a full confession with the location of the body?? I’ve seen most of them, and the answer is not many… now how can you say she’s bad at her job? you have no idea how it feels to be the suspect sitting there on the other side of her emotional manipulation. it’s probably unbearable to someone who actually experiences emotion unlike some of the socio and psychopaths we’ve seen, clearly he does based on the crying at the end.
@HuntedRanger imagine the male detective just randomly started crying and going I HAVE A DAUGHTEERR, you would either burst out laughing or question wtf is the point of that...
But i still think it was on purpose, not just her having an emotional reaction. These interrogations are all planned so they do shit on purpose even if it looks stupid.
At least i hope so, if it wasnt then she shouldnt be an investigator lmao
You know what, i kinda chsnged my mind, it does look a bit stupid when you consider... if this is a succesful interrogation tactic, why isnt jt used like ever besides this case? You would think if jt works you would have a special female only unit of crying women available on demand in every police station, ready to burst into the interrogation room, surround the suspect and yell "WHERE IS XYZ? WHY DID YOU KILL HER? I HAVE A DAUGHTER HER AGE!!!!!!!!' all at once, screaming over eachother to add to the confusion.
In all seriousness, if doing this was effective i would think we would see such technique used at some point, by female or even male detectives, abd im teying to imagine being in his position, from his oerspective it might feel different than from ours, but its hard not to cringe a bit
@Samantha Morgan im a guy lmao but its not about them being woman as you said but its just about that she is correctly emotionally manipulating him in this situation but people dont realize that because they dont know anything about interrogation
These parents call after their grown child goes missing for 2 hours....Casey Anthony-toddler missing for 31 days & her mom calls! Gee if that doesn’t speak volumes idk what does!
@florian negar It was probably the odd text messages they received that prompted them to call and then report her missing so quickly.I am an only child & I can tell you my mom was queen of the million pages & cell phones especially when I was younger & lived on my own in my own apartment lol idk of you have children & im not saying all parents will do this but worry is on a whole other level than any other kind when you have kids & something like this would and should prompt quick action. I just found the reaction to the two missing girls so drastically different because one had lots to hide & the other didn’t ya know?
I’m very confused at what your saying as well as the responses. Are you trying to say it’s absurd for someone to call the cops after their child goes missing after a few hours just because they’re not under a certain age? I’m honestly lost
@florian negar It doesn’t bother me at all, better safe than sorry. If a person goes missing in a 24-hour period. Their chances off survival are slim.
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Kristen Glenn2021-05-01 17:53:28 (edited 2021-05-01 17:54:12 )
@PITTSteelers76 I’m saying there’s a vast difference in the way things were handled which to me speaks for itself when it comes to a person that has something to hide vs someone that doesn’t. I’m personally used to being checked on & up until my later years-married with kids I was checked on a lot lol as an only female child to my parents & living alone at that for sometime. Some families are just like that. I’m not saying it’s never annoying but it’s certainly better than having no one to care! That’s how I’ve always looked at it
@florian negar thats normal for your family. For a family who actively communicates about their lives, and LIVES TOGETHER, it would be 100% unusual to receive a text like this out of nowhere
Yeah I sometimes don’t talk to my mom for weeks at a time (I’m a terrible person, sorry Ma), but if she ever got a text from me like that she’d have the police on the line in minutes.
@Kanye Breast The defense team for the Anthony case had the theory that the mother didn't call because she panicked and didn't know what to do after finding the child's dead body because she knew she'd committed negligence. Its a long shot, but is the most plausible explanation the defense could come up with. I could kinda understand hiding your mistake and staying silent in hopes no one would find out and as a type of self-denial. The prosecution's case was for murder which is much worse than negligence and requires a different type of evidence. Personally, I think it was murder, but I wasn't there. If the prosecution had filed for negligence, it would have been a slam dunk. I don't think they did though?
Casey is lucky that trial took place when it did, if that happened in 2021 she'd easily get convicted in the court of public opinion and spend the rest of her life in prison...
@David and when they tried to get ahold of her at work they said she didn’t show for her shift. Those things together would raise some alarms in my mind too.
@Carl Panzram this isnt the same, they got a message that she ran away of course they will call police and the message didnt even look like she wrote it
She didn't call because she knew her kid had died. Probably drowned in the pool. I think she thought she could just bury Caylee and dodge the emotional super-nova of your child dying. She's "toxic positivity" and regular toxic taken to the extreme.
@Thegame .Dev that’s a great observation. It could’ve been pure denial or lying to oneself so much that you’ve convinced yourself the lies are the truths.
You do realize that Casey killed Caylee right? You didn't expect her to call the cops after she killed someone or did You? 1k likes on this comment YOU gotta be kidding me.. this shows how little people are able to decode of these cases.
@Carl Panzram my parents would have put my bags on the porch and party if they got a text I ran away. They really suck though. Also.... Get better idols.
But there was good reason for it and different people respond to different situations. Plus she was only 21 dude that was 7 years ago I see them as kids.
@Skelter I hate how he broke her neck and all of that extra violent shit. I understand him crying because he felt guilty and knew he would finish his life in prison but what he did pisses me off
@Carl Panzram I'm the same way. I care about my family and I'm sure that they care about me but I don't talk to them for weeks, if not months, at a time. Not until a family gathering happens. I know many families are close as I see my fiancee is so close to her niece, like they're best friends. They talk and text constantly and it bothers me that they're so close. Mostly because they tend to end up spending more time together than I do with my own fiancee.
I know that it's pretty normal behavior and that I'm just likely the abnormal one, but still...
As you said, if I go missing, almost nobody would know for at least several days. As a side note, while I talk to many people, I don't like to keep friends. I'm not anti-social. I get along with everybody and people always want to hang out but I politely decline as I am a homebody and like my alone time and my bed more.
Watching that footage of Lee breaking down when he's left on his own oddly woke an old memory in me. When I was 16, I left my 3 beloved lizards out on the balcony so they could sunbathe. I had just gotten them two days prior. Only I was incredibly stupid and put them out in a small plastic container on the hot ground. I had only meant to leave them for 5 minutes or less, - I ended up leaving them for 30 minutes. By the time I remembered, I ran back out in a panic - and found they had died from heatstroke. The blacony ground was of a material that heated up so much it would burn your feet in a second. I will never forget their little faces with the tongue hanging out... For the next half hour, I basically acted like Lee in that room. Only with a lot more screaming and alot more tears. I remember running as far away from the balcony as I could - to the basement. I remember even scratching my wrists to relief some of the emotional pain. I kept screaming things like "god, please don't let this be true" even tho I am not religious at all. And I remember wishing to turn back time. To wake up. And so on. For me, it was incredible guilt and I kept screaming the little lizard's names and that I was sorry. I don't remember when I calmed down, I think I may have been so exhausted I just lay in bed and fell asleep... I have never felt something like this that so strongly again. Also I never tried keeping a lizard after that, feeling too guilty... That being said, I hope Lee didn't just feel sorry for himself there and the fact that he apologizes to Savannah was genuine... that is just the part of me that always wants to see the good in people... deep down...
Your story makes me cry... I feel so horrible for you, that you had to go through that... I hope you don’t still blame yourself. It was an awful mistake, but you would never have hurt those lizards on purpose. I know the point of your comment wasn’t to get pity, but I just want to give you a big hug. I’m sorry this happened to you :(
I once caught a snake in the grass and was playing with it, very hot summer day in Texas, asphalt was scorching, I set the snake down on the asphalt to let it go, it instantly froze stiff and died...I learned that day about cold-blooded animals.
I remember one time as a kid I spilled some milk and felt bad about it. I hope I didn't just tell an irrelevant story just to add to the conversation and akwardly try to tie it to the video.
I'm sorry to hear that man. I carry a somewhat similar guilt with me today. My precious girl, my parrot who helped me through some of the toughest times in my life, flew away and didn't come back one day. I figured she would never leave me, that she would just sit with me like always, but not that day. That day, she flew towards the sparrows, who have a similar chirp, and I guess she couldn't find her way back again. I can't stop blaming myself. Sometimes it catches me of guard, the overwhelming guilt and emotions I feel when I think about it for a long time. I just wish I could go back, tell myself not to open the bird cage outside, to just play with her indoors.... But I have to live with it. Though unlike you, I ended up overcompensating for my failure, and ended up with 7 birds in my home at one point. I thought it was the only way to stop the guilt and fill the hole in my life, but of course that's not how it works. I love them too of course, but it still hurts. I loved her, Luna, a lot, and still do.
No, he didn't feel remorse. He is currently trying to appeal under stand your ground laws, and is trashing her memory by claiming she was high and attacked him, even though the autopsy clearly shows no drugs in her system.
I'm sorry that you have to live with this memory. You were only a child, and you were trying to be helpful to your new pets. You can let the guilt go.
Aw honey. I just want to give you the biggest hug. 😢 I understand COMPLETELY.
When I was about 6 or 7 I was playing in my backyard when I found I robin’s nest way high up on a branch perched precariously. I was a stupid kid and all I can remember is how badly I wanted to see the nest and find any baby birds. So I took a tennis ball and started tossing it up to knock the nest down and I thought I could catch it. Spoiler alert: I couldn’t. I didn’t understand what I was doing! I just kept tossing it and tossing it until, eventually, I hit it. And it fell so fast I couldn’t believe it. It smashed to the ground before I could even blink. I was shocked. I ran up to the crime scene. Scared out of my mind. “No, no, no, please god no, this can’t be happening,” I thought. And inside were two tiny baby birds, just hatched, and one unhatched little blue egg. The egg was smashed. I could see the yolk. One baby bird lay still. The other wriggled slightly. I frantically picked up the little bald baby and sobbed as it peeped weakly one last time in my hands and then lay still. I had never cried so hard in my life. My mind was frantic and just repeating “What have I done?!” And “No no no no no!” Over and over. I was partially in denial. I felt like a monster. I felt the guilt run through my like a cold river. So cold it was burning. I was so young but this is one of the most vivid memories. It’s insane. I remember every bit!
In the end I ran inside to my daddy who was taking a nap in the recliner and just jumped on his lap sobbing. “I’m sorry! I’m sorry!” He was so confused and alarmed! I was a quiet, well behaved kid so this was WAY out of the norm for me. I then guiltily explained my heinous crime. He just hugged me and then went with me outside, grabbed a shovel, and helped me give them a proper burial. I love my dad. He helped me find a little closure and learn from the event.
So you see these are horrible events that unfortunately just sometimes happen. Me and my birds and you and your lizards. Don’t feel guilty. I know it’s hard. I’m 25 and I still feel awful! But you have to tell yourself you are no criminal. It was an accident! We’re certainly not “Lee Rodarte.” Think of your guilt as a sign that you are HUMAN and have EMPATHY and real EMOTIONS for other living things! That’s a great quality! 💕👍🏻
HE, on the other hand, felt nothing. No remorse. FOR A HUMAN BEING. Not even a lizard or a baby bird, AN ACTUAL PERSON! He cares about no one but himself. I can’t even begin to imagine how a person like that lives with themselves. Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk. 😘😅
I thought that was another slick way of trying to convince lee this wasn’t that big a deal. Like even if he goes to jail he could have a life, even though as you said he knew that shit wasn’t going to happen 😂
It's 2nd degree murder at best. It wasn't premeditated. The self talk at the end proves that. Though he's kind of screwing that up by going with the outrageous self defense angle. He probably could have pleaded down to manslaughter and got out in 20 or less. It's why you always talk to a lawyer.
Holy shit. I felt that second hand anxiety when that detective walked in and Lee immediately recognized him. Jesus christ. These videos are great motivation to never commit a crime LOL
Detective, “So, how long have you known Savannah” Lee: “ I feel that there is much to be said for the Celtic belief that the souls of those whom we have lost are held captive in some inferior being, in an animal, in a plant, in some inanimate object, and so effectively lost to us until the day (which to many never comes) when we happen to pass by the tree or to obtain possession of the object which forms their prison. Then they start and tremble, they call us by our name, and as soon as we have recognised their voice the spell is broken. We have delivered them: they have overcome death and return to share our life….”
40 is steep for what appears to be a spontaneous crime "of passion," even with time served and parole. Impossible to feel sympathy for him, though, obviously.
@Sebas410 I really don't think so. They talked for 14 minutes. It wasn't until she got in the car that things escalated. We'll never know for sure, but when he's talking to himself he says something like "you should have just asked her to leave you alone," I really don't think he planned to kill her until it happened in a blind rage. Drugs, fear of losing your job, sexual drama, all of this can fuel a rage state that's difficult to think through. It's why cops' most feared calls are domestic disturbances.
@mydemonswontleavemealone Where is any inkling of evidence of police brutality in this story? Did they entrap him? Did they beat him? Did they force a confession? None of these things occurred so "police brutality" cannot be considered here and is totally irrelevant...
If you are not a troll you have serious issues to deal with...
@mydemonswontleavemealone bro wtf are you talking about? There's no police brutality in this video.. and as someone who has spent every year of their life since turning 14 trying to dodge and stay away from cops as much as possible, I still know defunding them would be a horrible move. I'm no cop advocate and hate dealing with them even though only like half that I've dealt with are the "drunk with power" type of cops, but defunding police would help nothing. In my town there are like 30 plus openings for city police officers due to no one wanting to take the job, and I don't blame them. They don't get paid enough to take the risk of getting publicly crucified every time they are forced to use deadly force to protect their lives. Not saying all are justified but some of the ones ppl have blown up on definitely were. You resist and fight with the police, you roll the dice
@wildcardNS yeah I agree with you 100%. Sad situation. Don’t get violent no matter how appropriate it may seem in the moment, it’s not worth it having your and others lives ruined over an argument.
@Qopa how did he gain his humanity back? When he went to court he lied and said he was so scared the tiny little girl was gonna hurt him he snapped her neck like a twig. Once again blaming his victim who he had been slandering after murdering.
I still think murder warrants a death penalty. Why does the motive matter? Slaughtering someone like they're an animal shows such a careless regard for humanity that you forsake any of your own dignity.
@Phatty Bacon I see your point however, the motive matters because it shows the degree of the disregard for humanity they had. A pre-meditated murderer has a complete disregard as they are considering the negative aspects of murder and still do it (all in a period of time). A person killing someone else on the spot is going on an emotional drive and not carefully considering what murder implies. That is why the motive matters, one disregards humanity more than the other
@mydemonswontleavemealone this guy kills someone and gets convicted and you’re rambling about defunding the police? Dear god, please dont vote. People will think you are a Democrat and judge us for your nonsensical thoughts.
the text message was literally all i needed to see "hey um btw i met someone and im never coming home again aight bye" lmao wtf, why did he think that would work ?
Imagine what's going to happen when guys like him, and the Nigerian scammers, and the Jamaican Posse learn to use "Grammarly" and actually spell normal.
@Dwight st. john - Funny you bring up Nigeria.. I just met this great girl last night online that went down to Nigeria for vacation, and she got stuck there cause of covid. I sent her some money for a plane ticket, and she should be getting here tonight. Im gonna wait for her at the airport. Im so happy!!!
Her spelling was pretty bad 2, but thats ok. You're probably just jealous cause we're in love now!
Duece Staine literally no (good) police officer would look at that and think “case closed” and the parents certainly wouldn’t let it go with just this text message. it was too obviously fake.
That was actually pretty good strategy, he was trying to delay the missing report, since she was an adult she had the right to leave... The only problem is she hadn't the cellphone with her when he killed her...
Might adjust the rabbit 🐇 👂 unless wiga albaino nigerian, haven't been dm or emailed by nigeria since thaf scammer sent me a selfie to make the random deliveries stop to his geo jeeped lagos residence
@Duece Staine Right, people are allowed to run away. Running away with no evidence and people look into it. Create obvious evidence but this bad, people are still going to look into it.
@The Master of Whispers I dont believe he did confess, i believe he sort of half confessed to something roughly related to something and their claiming it was a ful confession so they arent showing the crucial point of the video.
@The Master of Whispers If you don't know a damn thing about the procedure don't make an arse of yourself criticising professionals who successfully got a confession.
@S'arah Triel totally made it easier for this guy to lie some more. He didn't confess because of her screeching. And he didn't confess the truth anyway.
Cody Ingram because they ARE human... evil isn’t born it’s made through pain, trauma and loneliness. When they say this, it’s to subconsciously trigger whatever shred of humanity they still have
@jacktsang05 actually no they were clearly working in tandem. You can clearly see her tap his foot when she needs him to stop talking and he obliges her. They had planned the emotional woman act (yes it was all an act) perhaps to remind him of Savannah or her mother (so he feels like he's confessing to them and not a detective). She actively reminded him of her being a mother (again to invoke Savannahs mother) as the concerned mother is easier to confess to than the police detective who can throw you in prison, hence why she "interrupts" the more traditional detective. The fact that he so instantly regretted confessing suggested to me that he wouldn't have done so, so easily to a traditional detective where the stakes are clearer and the emotions less heightened. Remember shes a professional detective not an "emotional woman" but i guess people still have an issue with stereotypically feminine behaviour in the police force even when its highly effective.
@Disc or Dye Nah, she isn't. She's an incredibly smart detective and with her colleague she fucking nailed this killer. Her acting was shit and she shouldn't try that over the top empathy bit again with anybody who has an IQ higher than Rodarte's. But aside from that cringeworthy performance, she's a badass and a way better interrogator than most homicide investigators in this country. Seriously. Think of all the shitty ass police departments across the country who don't have anywhere near the resources that a city as large as Jacksonville has. Check out the podcast Bear Brook if you want to hear about some absolutely terrible police work when it comes to homicide investigations in towns in Minnesota. I hate Jacksonville so I'm not trying to promote their police or anything but I feel the need to defend this woman who is very good at her job. Smart cops deserve praise from us even though they are certainly in the minority. Nonetheless, FILM EVERY COP AND DEFUND THE POLICE! November 3 is coming soon, y'all. Let's flip the fucking senate and get to work.
I think she's really effective. That kind of emotionalism is scary as hell when you're confronted, I'd imagine. Think of seeing someone crying, you want to stop it. May seem cringy, but damn, it worked
@Cody Ingram They try that route because it can be effective. Not all killers are psychopaths without empathy, some people kill because they lose control and snap in a highly emotional situation. These types of killers often feel bad for what they did and that's why appealing to their humanity might work, it makes it easier for them to admit to something they're ashamed of. Also, looking at an interrogation from the outside, it's very easy to spot all these tactics that the detectives employ. But when you're in that situation and you know you're guilty, you're in a very vulnerable and stressful emotional state and the detectives are slowly increasing the pressure, making it difficult to think clearly. This stress can become so unbearable that confessing seems like the best way to get out of this situation. It is highly effective which is also why there's an issue with false confessions.
@Jacob Hively Ironic, right? I take Adderall to curb excessive talking due to my ADHD. But when someone without ADHD takes Adderall, it causes them to talk excessively. It's tough to determine whether the Adderall made him talk, the guilt made him talk, or maybe he had undiagnosed ADHD (like myself for 33 years) and the Adderall actually curbed the steady stream of consciousness.
@gänsefüßchen thai hi neighbour! I'm Dutch haha. I couldn't really explain. I just tried to type a explanation but it won't help you I think haha. He is referring to the suspect telling a whole long ass story after just one simple question. I think it comes down to that.
@gänsefüßchen thai When the police ask a simple question like "How do you know that person?", the usual response is short: "We work together" or "We went to high school together"; Something short and simple. It's funny that when this guy was asked how he knew Savannah, he answered it like like he was asked to write a 20 page story about their entire relationship.
@gänsefüßchen thai It's a random quote, to describe how Lee Rodarte is deflecting the conversation to anything other than the question he is being asked. Talking without purpose or meaning,
@JJ Yup, for many (myself included), that's the hyperactive element. I never considered myself physically hyperactive, but it was pointed out that the hyperactivity can be internal (especially mentally hyperactive), which comes out as excessive talking and fidgetting/toe-tapping, etc (all of which I absolutely do).
honestly this made me freakout bc im autistic and as a child my mom told me to always tell me the whole story bc i used to say fragmented nonsense information, so usually when people just ask me a simple question, i explain the whole story of just one simple answer JHSDHJASD AND I RLY CANNOT TURN IT OFF I JUST PROVED MY POINT ON THIS COMMENT ITSELF
I would be taken to fucking jail 🤡 I don’t feel like I’ve answered properly unless I cover the context, relevance, and my point in saying it. I’m also prone to going on tangents if prompted... genuinely, I am long-winded and apparently guilty.
@Cloud Hwa it's a known trait of autism, as long as the fragments make sense when put together in the right order you don't have to worry, the only time it would be an issue is if you was lying and the fragments changed or the whole story didn't add up
@Cloud Hwa Just because someone is talkative like that doesn't mean they're lying. Like how if someone has a runny nose, they probably have a cold. Or it could just be allergies. Its not conclusive.
I’ve always had an issue with rambling and going on tangents. I’m really bad at talking so I always throw up a lot of random words, hope they make sense, and then piece together what I can when I’m done.
If I’m ever a suspect in a crime, I better have a good alibi or I’m fucked.
Exactly. I just wrote a whole dang comment about how bad women are at interrogations. Pleading and begging? No. The male investigator did good work, without him she would've gotten nowhere. The other interrogation where the woman was beyond cringy, whiny, begging and pleading was the case in Canada where the Chinese gamer killed his elderly neighbors. So far Tammy Lee from the C Watts case is the only female interrogator worth her salt.
@K kitty Cat kat have you seen the case of steven mcdaniel? the interrogators were men and they we're absolutely fucking awful, the only thing they did that interrogation was shame him for not washing his clothes and not having friends
@K kitty Cat kat bruh that was planned as you heard in the beginning “it is rehearsed” and the male investigator gave three knocks on the table for her to start crying. Or gain sympathy. 😐
i think her emotion was great and whether u can admit it or not it did help him admit it. she was A LOT though like if he didn’t say anything he probably would’ve been fine
@David Her remains were at his house. They had evidence to show she never got out of his car at the parking lot, So a judge would have issued a search warrant to his house. They would have had a case on him but it may have been more difficult to get him a long sentence.
Exactly. It is putting the suspect in a position of power where they will feel like he has the advantage in the situation. I don't really understand why the female detective decided to go with this technique... I guess it worked in the long run, but it's still kind of odd.
Around 30:15, I wonder if the detective is begging and pleading, saying “I know you’re not evil” to possibly trigger the suspect by reminding him of the victim’s pleas before he killed her. If she was, it’s pretty brilliant. Bring him back to that moment where he took another human being’s life, bringing his guilt and emotions to a peak where he may just break down and confess.
@Zeus Almighty but most people who commit crimes or even those whom are innocent, dont think " i should shut up and get a lawyer." Instead They think I'll just tell them everything i think they would want to hear or my innocent side of the story and I'll be fine. They think talking puts them in a good spot to look like they are being honest and could had never committed the crime they are suspected of. All your doing when you answer questions is setting your self up. Innocent or guilty. Everything you say is being analyzed and applied to the crime by these police. innocent or not you've given them some kinda data to be applied and some times manipulated to fit their narrative of what they think happened even if they could be wrong. Never talk to the police in these situations. Getting a lawyer and remaining silence is not an admission of guilt, it's just you protecting your self from being misrepresented by what you said to Leo's.
@war32mec eyes can say a lot. And it’s possible she broke away at some point to say “please no, stop” or something, strangling someone to death takes several minutes.
@H R very true. And I didn't think about the struggle that shook the car before she was killed where she could had been pleading and begging as well. Either way it worked and resonated with him and caused him to confess.
@K kitty Cat kat Your comment is incredibly dumb. This investigator obtained a confession. We didn't even see the moments of the final confession, the break could have been entirely by her initiative, yet in you misogynistic world view you haven't even afforded the benefit of that doubt, you preferred to choose a male hero. She is clearly working effectively with her partner in a coordinated manner, they have practiced and are even using signals amongst themselves. I agree I was surprised to see that amount of pleading as it could signify weakness to the criminal and give them confidence, but it could also press a question that the criminal can't be afforded escape from, or it could have any other plethora of effects on this man which this woman was evidently very attuned to. You have seen a few JCS and think you know every element of interrogation. It takes years of practice to perform well on the spot, a single word or gesture could alter the interrogation, different lines of questioning have different outcomes that can't be objectively evaluated, the only standard of evaluation is whether or not it works, and it worked. This woman is literally sitting in a high profile murder interrogation after years of professional success in her career. I wish JCS would do a video on how dumb you are to think you know more than this murder investigator #Dunning–Kruger effect.
@K kitty Cat kat my initial response watching this is similar for this lady, but you have to think clearly. If you've ever tried lying to authority before this is actually very effective, when someone is so insistent about knowing the truth it is debilitating because you feel like they are inside your head, and they know what you know. If I've felt that for lying about stealing or some petty shit, then imagine how it would feel in the case of murder. I get its annoying to watch but when you're actually there it can make you crumble.
however, I will say that they basically revealed their hand too early. They could have exhausted everything before getting to this point, and the way they worked together was counterintuitive almost. Like she would say "I know she didn't get out of your car, just tell. the truth" and the guy would immediately back track and say "were not saying you did anything, just tell us what you know" like TF? that's not a strategy like people would think it's a failure to commit to one homogenous narrative, which indicated they have a weak position. So yea, my only critique is that they should have exhausted everything beforehand before getting to this point, and the execution of it wasn't very organic imo. But as the guy says the suspect is very charismatic, and so maybe he was too confident and too quick on his feet to play games with, for example the self-inflicted part was pretty good imo, that to me would indicate that it's going to be hard to trick him.
then again idk shit I'm just procrastinating from exams
@Al Wilson miss boy there are several people here who share my sentiments and explain exactly why. Women are not bad at interrogations, they get confessions from people everyday. Just because one woman was bad during an interrogation does not mean she reflects all women. There are plenty of male detectives who have botched interrogations.
@K kitty Cat kat Women pretty much aren't built for interrogations. I noticed it as well, and its a common theme in many cases. Kudos to you for sticking to your opinion, and not letting the typical virtue signaling, shaming, and gas lighting of the NPC's here change it
@David But they did? I mean the confession would only seal the deal and make the case easier, if he didn’t say anything they’d still have something to work with
@Masha A. And that other person responded to someone else and so on, what's your point? plus, in first place, you were the one speaking about "#i'mnotlikeothergirls" and trying to criticize her just for saying facts about the case... And you're saying that I'm the one jumping the gun 😂😂😂
Dude she was in full control. If it induced a cringe reaction in you so did it in the suspect. At a blink she was able to switch meaning it was an act.. it's called mind games.
I think they were trying to guilt-trip him into confessing. He'll let his guard down and if he pities her he'll be less likely to antagonize her and more likely to talk.
Yeah but keep in mind that they already found him to be a liar and the one who drove her away for the last time. Easily enough to get a search warrant and convict him. The only valuable info left would've been if she was alive.
@K kitty Cat kat Lmao. Look how mad people respond. Not a single person can tell you why you're wrong, they just get angry. That's how you know you're right.
i agree. i thought this at first but it seemed to be getting at him since he looked more emotional as she kept begging. seems like it worked well to appeal to his emotions, otherwise i'm sure they would try a different approach if it wasn't working.
I honestly couldn't watch the female detective. I was like lady shut it ngl. It worked though and they got a confession but she was annoying the crap out of me.
@Cibo From A Diverging Timeline Totally agree. She was highly irritating. Emotional in a useless way. The male detective would have got the confession without her anyway.
@Cibo From A Diverging Timeline I had the same feeling and reading through these comments made me understand just how brilliant her work was. At first i thought she was kind of interfering with what the male detective was trying to do but now i see how she was playing the part.
It's classic, she was the bad cop, male was the good cop. She kept pushing and the male detective kept giving Rodarte possible outs to draw him back in
Love how the murders always try to shred the victim's character. She was spreading the rumors that they were boning.. and he just couldn't handle it.. she was doing heroin... dude, PLEASE.
She may have been talking about their relationship, which would cause him to lose his job. There must have been something in the relationship where she was abused, otherwise I don't see a motivation for him to murder her.
@P Pumpkin It's called drugs friend, you can see the hallmarks of him being under the effects of drugs at the end when he starts expressing what he is thinking which clearly were racing thoughts, I also believe that how he described Savannah is not who she was but rather who he is, he is probably addicted to drugs and since some people by nature already have the tendency to lose control over their actions, when they take drugs then they can murder people over anything and that is what he did, there is no other explanation, sure some women can be very nasty despite them appearing to be sweet and friendly but on the inside are pure evil, look at those lunatics Jodi and Dalia, but I do not think Savannah was anything like that and if she was, that still is no reason to harm her let alone murder her, when people are bad you just skip them and move on with your life, simple as that, right?
@S. N since when does crossing a red light is keeping anyone safe?Yes,fines is a way to gather money,because we are too stupid to even wear a seatbelt without being threatened to.This is on us
@Xrhstos Pex I was obviously being very sarcastic. Yes being fined is on us if we don't follow the law, but we are clearly talking about the camera quality in 2 different situations. It's just a bunch of people being very sarcastic on a real issue in this thread. No one of us has meant to trigger you...
@Xrhstos Pex imagine thinking "getting milked for doing non-violent crimes" is a good thing. where does the money go? it doesn't go back into the communities or anything that benefits the people. it goes into pockets.
@auto144p well,i dont really care where the money goes when it comes to traffic laws.Because wether we like it or not,people die in the road.And if you think that violent crimes are responsible for more deaths than traffic accodents,well they are not.Because approximately 1.4 million doe every year from car crashes and 400 mil from homicides.And well,if we are that stupid that we dont want to wear a seatbelt or a helmet,or we do cross a red light,then we deserve the fines that come with them
@Nate Johnson it is unless you dont come to a complete stop and thats up the the officer's judgement. I got a ticket for it 2 years ago and not only was it a 500$ ticket, it also jacked up my insurance 70$ a month because of another ticket i had. Not only is it bullshit cuz I looked both ways but the compounding tickets make my insurance ass for the next 5 years. Cops have that data and knowingly give you the ticket just to ruin anything you had going for you. I didnt put anyone in danger that day, I just turned right on a red going 5mph.
It really shows where municipal governments put your tax money. Even the cameras in that room are bad. But they can get a clear photo of the expiration sticker on your plate when they can fine you 400$
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Ondrej Sedlak2021-08-17 05:45:46 (edited 2021-08-17 05:47:47 )
Traffic monitoring cameras record VIDEO 24/7, which is 99.99999% uneventful and requires significant amount of storage for one week of footage, and is therefore limited in quality = Apples
Traffic cameras for fines take STILL PHOTOS a few times a day, which requires far less storage and as it is a single image, can be magnitudes higher quality = Oranges
the difference is traffic cameras are paid for by the city, which has more money SECURITY cameras are paid privately by business owners. I could go into more details on why they are usually shit, but its too long for a post and chances are no one is reading this anyway
I am also a babbler, and this video made me realize that I babble exactly like the killer when my self-worth is low, when I believe I'm not good enough and feelings like that. And I realize that I feel guilty about that – I think I need to be better than I am, so I try to please people and convince them that I am better.
That was my exact thought, whoopsies. Can’t even talk to my therapist without going on a 20 minute rant about like Mac n cheese when we’re talking about my home life…
Leaving them alone for along time doesn't work on psychopaths. They don't feel empathy for anyone they hurt or kill. They would only be mad if caught. Which shows that normal people with anger issues kill sometimes.
Yeah if I was in an interrogation I would probably look guilty, I ramble like a madman. But I’d probably also do so with a smile and sense of excitement. So that probably wouldn’t help either.
@Clay Punk i have brain dmg and major memory loss. So i forget or get lost in conversation and thought if u pressure me. More so i have even forgotten my own name at wallmart checkout. When i used a cc card they ask my name it caught me off guard and i couldn't remember. Almost got arrested i did nothing wrong.
That is me I just cant stop thinking when I speak to people that I like..
Example if my friend asks me about my day, I would give them 2 whole paragraphs explaining where I went, what I ate, who I spoke to, my form of transpitation and what I woke up to.
Yes this is not exactly true. They are saying if he's innocent he won't see the cops as a threat, but that's bullshit, the cops are a threat whether or not you are innocent because you can wind up in jail, accused just the same if you are innocent
The long responses thing, it makes me so nervous. As someone who has bad ADHD, and I don’t take medication for it, I will ramble for so long, especially if I’m anxious, if they let me talk lmao. Like you have to stop me or I’ll go so off topic to the point where I lose everyone, and it might look deliberate. I’m hopeful that I never get interrogated 😂😅
Same here, except I have generalised anxiety disorder and obsessive compulsive disorder. I’m so worried that if I get interrogated, I’ll end up getting falsely accused
@Joan Tinker my mind would go immediately to "i should really ask for a lawyer but these guys seem really interested in me and what i have to say and i really wanna talk about something"
There's a distinct difference in being anxious of being intimidated whilst innocent vs guilty. Most detectives can see the difference. If you have a lawyer you could ask his advice if it is wise or not to mention you have an overall sense of anxiety or can look that way because of adhd.
SAME. I have anxiety issues and I tend to ramble and over explain myself when I feel threatened or upset. Definitely comes off as sus to some people 🤦🏻♀️
Same. My ADHD is horrible and I can’t take meds for it because none work or they conflict with other meds. Hopefully o never get interrogated because they’ll definitely think I’m guilty
I thought about that, someone incriminating themselves by 'acting the wrong way', or lashing out when being wrongly accused. I'm scared that if I get interrogated for any reason, I would react 'incorrectly' if I can't prove I'm innocent. Making me look more like a culprit in the process. I'm also afraid to just confess to anything just so that it can stop and I can be alone with my thoughts. Get a lawyer.
this was exactly what I was thinking from the moment he mentioned the thing about guilty people talking more
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Il Dalai Lamer2022-03-14 10:17:42 (edited 2022-03-14 10:23:55 )
I've tackled this topic in many comments, but i am always open to answer your concern. The detectives are not looking JUST for rambling long responses. In this very case they have already estabilished a BASELINE of body language and behavior of this individual days before during the questioning at the restaurant, they know how he would NORMALLY act and answer. If it was you and you were innocent, they would have estabilished your baseline as well, and then based on that, check if the real important question have similar responses. If you are innocent, no matter your ADHD or any quirks you may have, your body would react same in a predictable way when questioned. If you are lying, your body doesn't, can't. That's what the detectives are looking for, not simply the "long and winded response"
But in any case, if you are in any police questioning, no matter if innocent or guilty, LAWYER UP!
Edit: Forgot to mention, the detectives have ALREADY proof it was him, they just needed his confession, they needed to corner him, to find his resoning for doing it. If you are innocent, is highly unlikely you will be put in a similar interrogation. Detectives cannot afford to interrogate someone on a hunch, they need to have solid ground and be meticulous. So don't worry about your ADHD, that is what makes you yourself, and not a liability. :)
Ikrrr, I have anxiety so I'd be shaking and fidgety and I'm scared that they might mistake that for guilt or something. Same as you, I really hope I'm never interrogated lol
@Joan Tinker This is the truest thing ever! Don't worry about "sounding guilty" if you say you won't talk without a lawyer. Screw that. They cannot hold that against you in ANY way. I watch so many of these interrogation videos and that is the single lesson I take from all of them. I was watching one with my bf and I commented that if that were me, I would just say "I'm not saying a single word without a lawyer" and his response was "You don't want to just right away say that, they'll think you're guilty!" Poor naive fool. That really is how MOST people think though. And the cops WANT that to be the general mindset, bc then if you ever DO end up in an interrogation room, you don't want to ask for a lawyer bc you think it'll make you look bad. That's why so many of these people TALK. It's always shocking to me and I want to shake them and yell "SHUT UP!!! ASK FOR A LAWYER!" But then again, 99% of the interrogation videos I watch, the subject IS guilty, so I am GLAD they are talking and get caught.
I have a lot of respect for the investigators and am always impressed with the creative and skillful tactics they use. However, as a major true crime fan and watching countless interrogations I’ve never once scene someone confess after the investigator says “the family deserves to know the truth.” As sad as that is to say I wonder why that seems to almost always come up in interrogation.
Hopefully the killer has some guilt buried there in his black heart...also maybe it is simply paying a homage to the family....the Detectives always speak to the families first and see first hand their grief....just my thoughts. Happy New Year
You play to every angle you can. Works better if the suspect and the victim's family know each other. One tactic on its own rarely gets the job done, but its about psychologically whittling down the suspect's defenses until they crack and either slip up, which affords more oppotunities to add pressure, or confess. Confessions aren't common, but what they say can be used against them in court, so if you can catch them slipping, or force them into a corner of defending something that can be disproven with evidence than it makes your case that much stronger.
I think it’s in there because you never know, but also because if they can eventually 100% prove he did it the prosecution can make him look worse by playing it and going “it was cold and calculated, look how we asked him about her family and he didn’t even care.”
Still so sad. My dad actually worked with savannah for a while at bonefish before he quit he said she was always so sweet and had such a uplifting smile everytime they worked together ❤ I really hope her family is doing well and he killer needs more time to rot in jail.
I genuinely feel bad about him crying and realizing his entire future is ruined, but at the same time that's what you get when you do some truly dumb shit and kill someone. Him realizing that this isn't what he wanted in life really made me upset, I mean we've all done things we regret (hopefully not to this degree) and the realization that you really fucked up is a truly awful one. Idk, just me overthinking things and getting anxious lol!
@Original Username yeah I hate seeing people break down that I KNOW have done something awful, bc we can't turn our empathy off. so we end up feeling pity for him even though we dont want to and he certainly doesnt deserve it.
This is one of my favorites! For the team utilizing patience, precision, and a simplistic yet very technical form of good cop bad cop with the added spell of this young lady giving a different feel of tension guilt and remorse to the killer to boil over with regret and come forward.
Update: Rodarte received a 40-year prison sentence in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to second-degree murder, according to the State Attorney's Office. Other charges of tampering with evidence and abuse of a dead body were dropped in the agreement
That really, really grosses me out. Idk what the legalities are like in Florida and what minimum sentence for murder is there but seriously, he should have gotten life without parole.
These videos are great because they teach you how not to fall for their mind games. As soon as I’m pulled in for interrogation for anything, out comes the lawyer.
@Yyyyzyyy I agree, however majority of the comments seem to indicate that she did a good job, personally I thought that whenever she spoke she was derailing the efforts of the first detective, I expected JCS to chime in about it too but he didn't - I guess it means that her approach wouldn't work on people like us
@Les Schorlemer: Well-described. Interesting words. This was an easier case to decipher with the video evidence, working toward conjectural substance. In tougher situations, the detective wouldn't have succumbed so speedily.
Rodarte received a 40-year prison sentence in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to second-degree murder, according to the State Attorney's Office. Other charges of tampering with evidence and abuse of a dead body were dropped in the agreement.
Fascinating, because of your analysis and explanation in easy to understand language. He’s still a kid. That’s why he’s acted this way. Is this where some people who have had an easy life. Attractive to the opposite sex, loving parents never had any real worries end up. They believe they can do what they want. Would like to know what his life was before the event. He probably exaggerated her bad points to make himself look better. Is there any evidence she was a Heroin addict. She is attractive, why was she blackmailing him for a sexual relationship. Sounds like a fantasy of his.
I’ve watched this one a few times and always question if the female detective is fake or sincere with her pleading. I feel like it’s something she turns off as soon as she walks out the door.
Imagine if he got away with the murder, he had absolutely no guilt on his conscience. How do these killers live with themselves. These monsters kill people as if they are flies.
Exactly. I over analyze every interaction with another person.....I still feel guilty for talking shit behind Mariah's back in 6th grade....that eats me up all the time. I can't imagine harming another person, let alone killing them.
He's actually one of the most remorseful killers I've ever seen. He cries and shames himself for what he's done. Almost none of them do that. Most of the time they're indignant or neutral, showing no emotion or expressing any favorable sentiment for the victims. I also doubt he killed anyone before this. He's stupid and got caught easily which probably would have happened the first time too. Impulse killings of a romantic partner like this are often one-and-done.
@Big F Only a little and after the interrogation is was over. Almost all of his crying was directly in response to sharing details of the killing with the detectives. It's more obvious when you watch the entire interrogation rather than just the parts shown here.
I'm Gutted!! Just finished all jcs videos in 2 days , absolutely fascinating well presented and evocative one of the best channels I've accidentally come across
He easily could have said, we did drugs, had sex in the back of my car, skipped work and went to a park, I told her to take an Uber home and she left and I haven’t seen her since. Simple story.
@Ad still. anything after he stated that she left his car wouldnt be his responsibility. maybe she walked to the store and got picked up there after he already left. any number of things she couldve done. I just feel like it wouldve also been so obvious to me that after you realized maybe they heard she got in my car to assume they think/know you left together lol. However, I'm also not stupid enough or capable of even thinking about murdering someone.
@starstruck. Right? She was literally calling the shots the whole time in the interrogation. Did you see her tap her partner with her foot? Absolutely perfect police work and she deserves all the credit.
@Abe Buckingham She deserves a lot of credit, but why would she deserve all of it? They were both employing effective habits. You can raise a woman up without having to put someone else down.
I LOVE your work and look for new stories every day ! Can yo do one on the latest in the Epstein Maxwell trial ? Pretty please from an enthusiastic Auusie ?
I’m so glad that these detectives that catch monsters like this do such an amazing job. BUT why in the fuck do these morons not just shut up and ask for a lawyer?! I do not understand why they sit there and talk for 5 hours. They have the ability to murder a human being in cold blood but can’t say “I don’t want to talk to the cops” it’s seriously amazing.
Now for me, when you said that this reaction was hard to watch even with context, I still feel no sympathy for him, not difficult for me to watch at all. He killed a beautiful girl for no reason. I guess I just cant feel sorry.
09:40 Is that really the case, though? If I was being interrogated in a murder/kidnapping case, I'd definitely see the interrogator as a threat even if I was innocent, because innocent people do get falsely convicted, it's something that happens.
Do things like General Anxiety Disorder or other mental health conditions make it hard to distinguish between guilt and the disorder? I know things like, for example, shaking leg syndrome probably isn’t common but is a common sign of anxiety (whether situational or not). How much are these thought about by interrogators? How do they affect their perception of a suspect?
I think there isn't a way to tell one from the other, but it's good to analyze other aspects to tell if the person is guilty
Did this panicking person had the oportunity and motive to kill someone? Did they have power and sources? How would they do it? And again, innocent until proven guilty
Nothing like watching a brutal murderer be caught out, watch them squirm, and then weep to themselves like a baby, bc they're so scared abt what's gonna happen to them in jail. Fucking sweet. I hope he rots in his cell.
I gotta believe the lady on her phone all nonchalantly and him purposely letting the door swing open and bang against the wall was an intentional psychological trick.
I hate this man for what he has done to another human being, but i can't help but feel sorry for him, seeing him break down like that. He deserves life in prison though.
i find it interesting him talking to "himself" at the end. he knows the tape is going to be examined and he's only saying stuff for the detectives to take into account. sadly a psychopath doesn't realize that emotion and remorse are useless when it's crying about yourself and not the innocent girl you just murdered for no reason. boo hoo pal. you deserve more than 40 years. the fact he is terrified of jail and getting dealt with in there makes it satisfying to watch though. don't kill people because it's an awful thing to do, but even if you lack empathy then don't kill people because you will go to jail, idiot.
Question...is it an issue that I feel nothing/ have no emotional reaction to this? The narrator at one point says that it should be hard to watch his reaction to it all. But if I'm being honest, this is only mildly amusing to me. And I may or may not watch these to listen to the crime description, interrogation strategies and to watch how the suspect acts.
@Skaarphy can't honestly say I don't think about it....but I can't see losing my grip enough to be violent. Not saying there aren't scenarios that could bring it out of me. But for now just sounds like a hassle. Too many lies, and the science is too good to even try n get away.
It takes will to sit there calmly to keep questioning the guy and persuading to admiting he done it. I would've snapped dozens of times and be sat down being interogated
Heinous violent crime: Yes, Alright! Psychological Manipulation: Hell, Yes! Gory details of the murder: YESSS!!! He picked his scabs at his place of work which is a restaurant: Audible retching
8:54 I'm the complete opposite and honest to a fault to where I often over-explain things instead of keeping it short and sweet. I often give long winded truths unfortunately.
I worked in the restaurant biz for about 8 years...get out, and finish the degree you put off. All it does is perpetuate a party lifestyle and destroys your ambitions.
"At the end of a secluded road." My man I used to play back there when I was a kid lol. Yikes, were some sus people a few times, glad no kid stumbled across this!
There were three bottles of water on the table, then the video was cut and when it returns, ....... there is only two bottles of water on the table and a liquid is visable at his feet slowly moving down the floor under his shoes, so did they remove 2 water bottles, did he spill them or did he just, as you or I would in this situation - PISS OUR FREAKIN PANTS
DETECTIVE: So how long have you known Savannah? LEE: (goes full stephanie Lazarus) oh gosh that was like a million years ago umm gee I have no idea but I take like 10,000 pictures
Detective made a mistake there when he said "so she got out of the backseat" maybe it was intentional, I don't know but Rodarte must have thought how did he know she was in the backseat & not the front.
@Alejandria Goodwin Yes I am paying attention. The police had the camera footage but at that point the suspect didn't know there was any video. Most people would assume she was in the front seat.
yeah… that's a tactic. She's the senior of the two. See her correcting partner with foot at about 29 minutes. Also she dropped the emotional thing as soon as he started confessing, see for example 2:57 at uncut interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s
The female officer actually played her part brilliantly. The begging, the whining, the submissive pleading tone of her voice. The cringy-ness and drama of it all...She played to his narcissism and she got him!
I thought just the opposite. Played terribly. She’s playing on emotions that aren’t there. He murdered someone to save his job and she’s gonna cry and beg? he confessed because they had him on tape. That’s the only reason.
I feel like she jumped the gun on the accusation. If he was a bit more composed during his "breakdown", he could have lead the police in a longer chase.
Everyone saying she was over the top and cringy but that's the point. If you had two cops just saying "well I don't think you did it, its okay" and being calm he would have kept up his bs. They don't know this man and don't know whether he will react to emotion or need convincing. Between her shrill begging and the mans nonchalant deamor he was probably so confused and caught up and it obviously worked regardless.
i think it’s more about causing intensity and uncomfortableness to unsettle them and make them more likely to crack as that adds to a build up of an already uneasy situation
@ everybody saying "she was annoying and cringy and bad acting I wanted her to shut up", dude thats the point. imagine having her in front of you, insisting nonstop. do you want to scream at her? tell her to shut up? she is trying to trigger him in some way that simply talking will not do. Even remaining silent says a lot about your mental process. you all would fall for it.
I will def say he looks like the type of guy to snap in rage. Anybody for his size and his muscles can easily snap someone neck especially such a petite woman like savanna was. Nobody average man can jus snap someone neck jus like that. He said she slapped her 3 times that 3rd time he prolly snapped in absolute rage and anger and grabbed her neck and instantly snapped it no problem. Glad he was put to justice rip savanna 🙏🏿
It’s hard to explain this without sounding like I’m empathizing with a killer but people with borderline personality disorder can experience fits of psychotic rage that are uncontrollable and the strength and emotion people experience during the episode is so intense you will never be able to understand it until you’re there. I’d feel bad for people like him and Jodi arias if they weren’t such disgusting liars. Just tell the truth. You were angry and did something every human is capable of. 2 lives lost.
yeah i understand, they'd weirdly be more "forgivable" or at least far more human if just confessed immediately to the horrid shit they did, rather than lying about and defaming the people they killed
@Grace Minshull yes I think that’s what I’m trying to say. It would be easier for his guilt to be seen as authentic if he hadn’t lied about it for the first hour.
I get what you’re saying. That’s why we have first and second degree murder charges with differing sentencing guidelines. Still, if people get so angry that they can kill then those people should not be on the loose. Plus this guy took her body and burned it. I doubt he was in a blackout rage the whole time.
@V - “blackout rage” and psychosis are not the same thing. Psychosis can last days and dissociation triggered by rage isn’t uncommon. After you literally kill someone burning their body seems only crazy to us. In his mind he thought he was getting rid of evidence not committing even more heinous acts. Brains are weird and people do sick things.
That is not a cardinal rule...short answers leave vagueness and ambiguity...exactly the things needed to get away with a crime But detailed accounts reflect truth better. Meaning you are aware, honest, and innocent. Easier to catch a lie in a long story than short...so, I knew her from work isn't an honest answer, cause it hides truth. Obviously you knew her from work, y'all work together. They're looking for intricate detailed honesty....I am sure in some cases it is applicable, but to suggests a norm....police can lie legally. Give details or they will..cross those that t and dot those i's
He acts like not murdering someone was some difficult task and just kinda ended up in that situation. Like dude, you broke her neck, burned her, and then dumped her. Only crying because he got caught and will face the consequences of his own, murderous actions.
Everyone praising the female detective is doing a ton of mental gymnastics to try and convince themselves that she's anything but an emotional amateur. No, she is not a "good actor", "manipulative" or anything of the sort.
that isn’t how your emotions work right after you’ve actually committed the act of killing someone in cold blood with your own hands and burned their body in a bonfire, and are then being faced with interrogation lol.
LQQK closely at the floor when the tape cuts off, ...something happened and they didn't wanna reveal what it was, ...then keep watching, it drys up!!! Some Sh!t went down in that room!!!
There are only two cases from there on the channel that I’m aware of. There’s a reason that Jacksonville and the rest of Florida are so popular as crime memes. It has to do with the privacy laws. Many states force you to go through the clerk to make a records request and pay for those records. Much of Florida, depending on the county, just dumps this stuff for everyone to see. Plus, I’d be curious to see where JCS is from. He could be local to the area.
To do what she did. She knew she was a female and had more of a chance of getting a confession out of him through her emotion, because logic clearly wasn't working.
As contrived as it felt, it scared the shit out of him because he realized they knew. It seemed like the perfect way to approach the interrogation with this specific suspect.
@I. Wynn Wynn But it was clear the male detective had a more monotone, unsuspecting voice compared to the female. It's not insulting her or puttng her down, she'll get better at it most likely, it seems like she was younger than the malem
I feel like the depth of voice, posture, physical size & built, tone, assertiveness and tenacity of a detective matters. For this reason I think on average women detectives may need to compensate a little for any lack in those areas by either developing those qualities, or bringing say, extraordinary wit and cleverness; lest a potential criminal may feel like they have an edge over the detective. There's a lot of intimidation at play, and while sympathy, pleading, and compassion may work initially, it won't help in the closing argument. I do think the female detective was lucky here because she held an ace card, a crucial piece of evidence that cannot be refuted, nor is there an easy way to create an alibi around it without prior contemplation and elaborate scheming. He was backed into a corner so hard, and unexpectedly causing him to abandon hope. That said, it was refreshing to see a different approach and witness how it played out.
@AaronMetallion Some women, and im so so so sorry to say this but I believe it is an ability only some women have. But some women have an AMAZING condescending voice that can rile anyone to confess in anger.
As a carpenter, at 7:15 you could tell whoever installed that door didn’t make sure it was level... that’s why it always opens unless completely closed. Really bothers me.
Think of the psychological effect though. The murderinvestigator walks in, leans out, walks in, walks out, door flings open, FREEDOM, investigator walks BACK IN, door closes and then someone opens it AGAIN FOR A THIRD BOTTLE OF WATER. the torment man...
@Joe Public I think I've met maybe a handful of dudes on the line (backbone of any restaurant-treat em good) that didn't in my ten years ...he was definitely lying about his drug use
I've talked openly on several occasions about drug use, even on the one occasion where I was interrogated by police after "violence" against the police (I'm a small girl so there's limited damage I can do without a weapon and wasn't myself at all considering this was my FIRST proper fight due to being aggrivated while on heavy drugs) and on another occasion where I had to tell it. That time I charged a stranger with rape (cuz that's what happened and I won that case two times), and had I not told the detectives about the drugs my story would have too many holes, same thing when my addiction to drugs literally was part of my defence on that violence-case. Never have I ever even been arrested or anything for anything regarding drugs, heh. So, sometimes it makes sense to bring up personal drug use.
@Jessica Schacht wait?? Your comment coincides with his comment about most cooks using drugs. So you've only" met a handful that were not on drugs"?? Or did you mistype that?
@Jessica Schacht I don't understand why you tagged who you did then cause the person you tagged was saying the same thing but it comes off as you trying to prove them wrong.
@Samuel Blackthorne Well its also not their department, plus gotta find the victims and bring to justice. You’re being interrogated for murder/possibly grieving , next you thing you know your being asked where the stash is.
@Joe Public i knew a cook and he loved coke. Every day and night at work he hammered the stuff. I dont like it myself too sweet i prefer a nice lemonade!
@Joe Public when I worked in restaurants, almost everyone used drugs, of some sort. But yeah, opiates & narcotics, find the guys who make the best money (like head chef) if you want the best stuff... Buy it from a bus boy & it will have been stepped on 😂
@Boogity Hoo I was an addict when I worked in a restarant. So was everyone around me
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@Tim Challenger Believe me, I was surprised as well! I knew I had to tell them because I knew neither of my stories in either case wouldn't even make sense if I didn't tell them about being addicted, but believe me.. I did NOT expect it to go that well! 😅
@Liu Kang the alternative definition is any substance that affects mood or behavior (very vague); which reminds me of how some places in the US will convict you of a dui/dwi for having caffeine in your system...
@The Burden of Light he spent so long going over things in his head he forgot his place irl conversation.. but since it's obvious he's a suspect anyone with negative police experience would likely be doing the same thing, and/or especially if they have any kind of anxiety disorder (imo)... [I'm only 15 min into the video as I type this] ...3 min later, caught in several lies, well for a moment it reminded plausible that he was innocent, but as far as what they expect & are looking for, these videos almost always make me think if they were interviewing me and I was innocent then I would still look/sound really bad... ...[34min in] Wow, that was more brutal than I was expecting.
@The Burden of Light that's the #1 thing I've learned; also there's some excellent YouTube videos out there with lawyers explaining all the ways people get in trouble even when they've done nothing wrong and are trying to help with an investigation...
When the female detective got emotional talking about her daughter being the same age as Savannah (whether feigned or not) caught me so off guard bc I'm so used to detectives trying to remain stoic and commanding.
@Jason Juneau my 2 favorite lines were from Blanche: "I'm jumpy as a virgin at a prison rodeo" And the one where they're on a game show and the quote is "better late than [blank]"...
Wow... The lady was phenomenal. That was INTENSE. I have never seen an interrogation so emotional. That absolutely blew my mind. The dude's anxiety must have sky rocketed at that moment... just... I am in awe. (On a side note both of them did an amazing job, it was just shocking to see/hear something like this)
He didn't just 'snap' her neck, he fought with her in the back of his car for minutes and she nearly got away 3 times, he had every opportunity to let her go, instead he went too far and NOW he is concerned about his future and whimpers like a baby, he should have thought about his future when he was murdering her. Now he can be chef to his prison wives...
Look, he is talking to himself about how stupid he is. He says at one point that Savannah treated him nice. He know's he ruined his life and he feels stupid. He should have simply walked away and he knows it. He's right, he seems fairly intelligent. I wish he hadn't have done it too. Murder is evil. I would rather be murdered than murder someone. Hell's a bad place.
Unless he has someone who sends him canteen money he is in for a long miserable life where he deserves every second of pain. He will be Chef Cup o Noodles.
@Dick Lickersson that Jenkins case happened in the city I live in. People were livid, but not the prison officials that let him out...sad, sad story and a very sick family.
He didn't give a shit about that girl all he cared was his life was gonna be in jail and could go in looking like he had been crying. If they really arrested him on a traffic offense he wouldn't give a shit about her he would live his life right on
damn! I was about to make a joke about bad parenting; but then I remembered, during his autobiographical monologue, he said he had a rough upbringing. At least there’s one thing he didn’t lie about. Smh
@Reptilian why would it be genetic, when his mother did amphetamine?? he just had a fucked childhood, like a ton of murderers etc. a fucked childhood is the biggest risk factor in being a criminal.
Case Update: He was sentenced to 40 years imprisonment in March of 2021. He plead self defense saying she slapped him repeatedly and he grabbed her neck and accidentally broke it. Then panicked and tried to hide the remains.
@Capt. Price he was given credit for almost 4 years "time served" at the age of 32 now he has 36 more years in jail so he will be about 68 when he can be free if he doesn't get paroled early. He was convicted of second degree murder and had worked out a plea deal to avoid life imprisonment so I'm not sure if being paroled is an option.
If you need people to say "don't kill people it's bad" then society has gone beyond redemption. "Don't talk without a lawyer" can apply to innocent people or lesser felonies and is good advice.
Always call lawyer. Look up how many suspects confess to things they didn't do. Cops can get crazy with it. Obviously never kill anyone simple as that. But then you say something "wrong" to the cops and they assume you are guilty when you are not. "Am I under arrest or can I leave?" If you are under arrest "I want a lawyer" and again don't kill anyone
Why not? Its certain true for most of people who dont kill or harm anybody, because talking without having consulted a lawyer can actually get them in trouble.
Wait, you're NOT supposed to kill people??? I wish that someone had told me that before I made my human skull drum set and cannibal chili business!!! Well, at least I know not to talk to the cops without a lawyer.
Most people making comments like you are white . Clearly if you're a minority it doesn't matter if you're innocent or not. As soon as you hear it's MURDER you bette lawyer up
Problem with that is sad as it is. People will find themselves in unbelievable situations. Everyone has the ability to kill someone. No non psychopathic people want to. But most people who murder aren't psychopaths as much as we want to believe they are.
Glad to see someone giving her positive attention. People keep calling her obnoxious and being sexist. Emotional manipulation seems amusing through a screen but not when it's happening to you.
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I actually really like this. The universe is like "Do you like pizza? Of course you do! Everyone does! You know who else loves pizza? THIS guy. And he doesn't get any. Because he's in fucking prison. So don't do shit that gets you into prison. You won't get any fucking pizza."
This is so funny. Kind of makes you realize for a second that we are like some characters in a strange strange comic book (or simulation).😄
And what's even funnier, in a way, is that while Lee had such a very experience here (in this comedy), it's not like others/most people will leave forever or something. I mean in about 50 years all humans living now will be dead, in a few thousand years or tens of thousands - first of all who knows how the life on Earth will be, second of all certainly all we ever loved will be dead, third of all maybe even the whole human species will be no more.
This, our existence, existence, is literally nonsensical. I don't mean to say life doesn't have any sense to it, let's be depressed, but in a way it is true that the whole situation is completely nonsensical.
And this if we think only about life on Earth. Now let's extend this to who knows how many "Earth's", how many "alien" civilizations, forms of consciousness, etc.
And knowing this all (because we do, we do know it, maybe mostly unconsciously we do know the state of affairs), we (most of us) still have (illogical, unreasonable) fear of death, have different ridiculous fears in our lives, etc.
Sorry, don't mean to be depressing, just a computer trying to process the information, I guess. 😄
@Florida bathsalts man When I was in prison in Missouri, once a month or so they would sell McDonald's burgers or pizzas and you could buy it with money on your books. So maybe he can Haha
@Erika On Con Musk? He's nothing but a celebrity, a mirage, for impressionable adolescents and adults, that adore him and science like Jesus and the Bible. And that are lead to believe that they too can become billionaires. People should check out who his parents were, how rich they were...
@iamupinacloud Lee: " Everything changed when the fire nation attacked. There she was. A lonely, beautiful castaway hiding beneath the shambles of her former home. Trying to fend off the very flames that caused it. I rushed to aid her in the nick of time preventing the destructions claim of another victim. I covered her as we ran through a rain of fire and brimstone with nothing but a cloak. Each passing second possibly being our last. We soon find shelter in a convenient 2012 Chevy malibu. We then locked eyes. Her gaze shined brighter than the very fire that consumed her home. Her beauty met no bounds, but there was a problem. Continuing to fall for her would cost me my job. (My village has yet to collapse) Despite my pleas for a friendship, she was high on heroine and wasn't fucking with the idea. Then she got out and got in a green truck with some earth benders. Haven't seen her since."
Detective: "when was the last time you saw savannah?" Lee: "this story begins 7.3 billion years ago when the Earth was nothing more than a molten ball of lava orbiting around a young sun..."
@Kyle Alexander some friendships span lifetimes Some friendships feel like forever And Some friendships happen before the big bang and you have to wonder what kind of eldritch dark god they are and that is not OK
I like how the female detective acts emotional to make him think she's weak and possibly lying about the cctv then a few moments later crushes his thought process by revealing his exact route.
As a recovering heroin addict I can totally understand being paranoid while high. You’ve just committed a felony and possibly have more of the felony substance on you, it’s true that you’ll normally not give a fuck about anything but depending on the dose I wouldn’t say it’s impossible.
You might be right, but I have doubts. I think she was annoying. I also think a man who would kill a pretty 21 y/o girl isn’t going to take a hysterical begging woman seriously.
@weedshoes She wasn't hysterical, i'd be careful with that word if I were you. She was appealing to his moral sense. She put immense pressure on him and the overwhelming evidence did the rest. how can you continue lying when it's known for a fact that what you're telling is false ?
@Rocky Gordon she was obviously exaggerating to amplify the shock factor. She easily dialed it back down. It’s all trained tactics vs “out of control hysterical”. And it worked. And obviously the role was given to the female to act out
@Amber van der HooftWhat? Why are you comparing the two things haha? It’s not as if only one of those has to be an emotional action? He never even mentioned him, he mentioned her performance in the interview. Not what he’s accused of. Bizarre comment hahah
@Tootle "women use too much emotion" is a general statement, if it was just about this lady, he could have said "this woman uses too much emotion". While I do think this lady is a bit annoying, I don't see why people always feel the need to say that "women use too much emotion", while men act out of emotion all the time too🙄
@Amber van der Hooft Yeah I feel you but no ones saying men don’t. It’s not really a gender debate. Men act with violence too much. But no one would respond to that and say ‘hey but women are violent as well’.
@weedshoes no but it did throw him off, you can tell he stopped being assured and confident after that, as if he had just been scolded by his mom. He wasn't expecting something like that so he lost his charismatic composure completely
“Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so...”
@casbyness I don’t believe any jokes should be off limits, you should just be careful who you say them too. If somebody gets offended by it, they should just ignore it it’s not on the joke teller
Yeah, and did you notice he mentioned "She went missing for three or four days from work"? He may as well have added, "So I don't think you guys should be thinking she's been murdered or anything like that."
Yup!!😂😂😂😂😂 That Addie was game over for him son. 😳 He might as well have chased the dragon like baby goku and taken a big ol fat hit of some chach before walking in there!!
"Now, this is a story all about how
My life got flipped-turned upside down
And I liked to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air
In west Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground was where I spent most of my days
Chilling out maxing relaxing all cool
And all shooting some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys who were up to no good
Started making trouble in my neighbourhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
She said 'You're moving with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'
I begged and pleaded with her day after day
But she packed my suite case and send me on my way
She gave me a kiss and then she gave me my ticket.
I put my walkman on and said, 'I might as well kick it'.
First class, yo this is bad
Drinking orang juice out of a champagne glass.
Is this what the people of Bel-Air Living like?
Hmm this might be alright.
But wait I hear they're prissy, bourgeois, all that
Is Bel-Air the type of place they send this cool cat?
I don't think so
I'll see when I get there
I hope they're prepared for the prince of Bel-Air
Well uh the plane landed and when I came out
There was a dude who looked like a cop standing there with my name out
I ain't trying to get arrested yet
I just got here
I sprang with the quickness like lightening, disappeared
I whistled for a cab and when it came near
The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror
If anything I can say this cab is rare
But I thought 'Now forget it' - 'Yo homes to Bel Air'
I pulled up to the house about seven or eight
And I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo, homes smell ya later'
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air."
Watching him at the end squirming, crying, all over the place actually felt amazing to watch, it's only a fraction of how that poor girl Savannah must have felt.
it is very weird to see how... human? He still is, even after comitting such a heinous act. Most of us probably know that feeling, wanting to disconect yourself to reality, wondering why the hell you are in this situation, just not to that degree of guilt. Weird af
How? Yes, he murdered another human yet he is still a person. He obviously regretted it and I can’t imagine how horrifying it must be to feel the guilt he felt. Feeling the humanity seep away. And again what he did is horrible and just as I can’t imagine what he had to go through I can’t imagine the grief Savannah’s family went through as well as the terror she must have felt moments before her murder. I’m just saying, he is a human.
Bodenlose Dosenhose if Gordon Ramsay kills a dude and I find out he’s working in the local jails kitchen you best believe I’m skipping some parking tickets hoping for a meal or two...
The wounds were fresh, there were no scabs. It was a smart answer, meant to explain why the wounds looked fresh. Hoping to indicate that they were more than two days old.
The saddest thing about this is that it’s more than likely she was killed in his car in the middle of a large parking lot, with what looked like a lot of general traffic in the area
@Nevin Kapi chances are, someone may have but its called survival, self preservation. Sounds horrid I know but its the truth. One of my sisters knew that my mum was abusing me when I was little and even tried to intervene one day but was told to stay out of it and she did. Most likely for fear for her own self.
sometimes you genuinely don't notice it. if you drive you are focused on the road, the lights, other cars, etc... if you walk you might be exausted, or stressed thinking at "that thing"or any other situation, we are often absorbed in our activities or thoughts. that's why we employ people whos job is to vigilate and look actively.
Yall.... I'm in Jax Fl.... nobody pays attention. There's traffic, and it's hot as shit!!! People are moving along. Nobody cares about anybody else in this city. Lol
Sometimes adults have a dispute and it isn't appropriate to intervene. We can't hear sound, she might not have been able to scream while the door was open. People that are scared should at least intervene with a group or call the police in that case
Skip Haskell at a young age, that’s understandable, but any grown adult that would have seen a struggle of that kind(a murder or atleast incapacitation) going on should have intervened, I understand the whole idea that you don’t necessarily want to get into some strangers drama, believe me, I understand the thought, but having the philosophy or mentality to say you wouldn’t be curious and investigate, as an adult, a car bobbing up and down, the back door opening and shutting and likely some amount of muffled talking, is coweredly. Maybe I’m just a wanna be hero, but if I had even the slightest inclination that something inappropriate was going on, I’d have sprinted towards that direction and at the very least investigated. I’m not blaming anyone but man, I wish I was in that area at the time.
No i thought that too but apparently if you’re truly innocent your survival instinct will override every feeling of nervousness because you know you’re being pressed for something you didn’t do.
Yup me too. I don't agree with the narrator that an innocent party would give quick concise answers when asked about the victim (idk maybe because I've never been interrogated), if I was asked, I'd give a short story about how I know the person to try and prove my innocence
Actually looking at the Guilty until proven innocent video on this channel, you have little to worry about. Likely you would not be that nervous or talkative. If you were super innocent, of course. In any case, the only course of action is to shut up anyway. Especially if you are innocent.
yo, the female detective is freaking good. the pleading pat which sounds "cringy" to you was actually well done and would affect a person in a similar situation a lot. i never got interrogated by police but i got my fair share of interrogation from school and university for appeals on stuff.
Okay, actually more on that: why? They are trying to appeal to someone who may or may not (probably is) a psychopath; how is that supposed to work? What's the psychology of that?
I thought it was cringe and kinda annoying myself but I remember a male friend saying once that the voice of a woman crying sometimes makes you feel very uneasy because of a the high pitch and I guess I never thought of that, maybe it do works.
That part gets me the most in this whole case. It really sounded like she was murdered to save a job but no job is worth that. Especially one in a chain restaurant. It's so tragic and absurd at the same time!
@maroon Forsyth no one said that. But killing someone over a job, especially a job that isn't some multi million dollar or crazy high income one, is even more sad. This poor girl lost her life for a restaurant job to be saved. That should feel sad to literally anyone.
Right?! I bet the punk gave her drugs the first time, to hook up with her... Oldest evil trick in the book. And he was probably still with his girlfriend that he mentioned. Careful out there ladies!
I don’t think so. I think part of the transcription was in error. It sounded like he said Savanna was so nice to him and he hurt her for someone that was a bitch to him. What sense does that make? I think this had to do with another girl.
@Andy T Yup. The more details they can get him to give about an easily disproven lie the better. People can say "Oops i misspoke" or "i'm sorry i didn't understand what you were asking" or "i answered wrong because I didn't understand the question". All of those defenses evaporate once you get him explaining the fake details. Get him to give as much details as possible so there can be no confusing at all with what he is claiming.
Lee’s story about taking an Adderall on a whim is obviously bs, and maybe a cover for meth or coke use. Stimulants are sadly pervasive in the restaurant industry and they can fuel success in the short term, but you pay for it with your sanity.
@Luke Stockstill kitchen work means long, long hours in a hot kitchen, it's fast paced, there's a lot to do and taking amphetamines will keep you awake, focused and productive short term. It's pretty common in the food service industry
As someone who is not only a server but the occasional drug user, I can confirm that most restaurant employees are on drugs, even at a nice restaurant in a very nice area, most employees are at the very least recovering addicts
As someone with adhd it always trips me out whenever people take Adderall or anything similar because it makes them feel less tired because like I’ve been on Adderall and it has the opposite effect on me
@Justin Crediblename i got addicted to opiods doing kitchen work which seems like a strange choice but it has a sort of endless energy about it, you dont get bored on them and you can take any physical punishment. Only problem is endless itching whilst youre meant to be making food
I believe him on that part. Its not unheard of to experiment when you're young, I did it but never once tried meth. I think he tried it again with her and got hooked.
@Pine Hill Prophit it is comforting lee will be with he’s own kind. What makes me uncomfortable is the realization, many more people like lee are still around us.
@peter henderson To report you of course, who in their sane mind feel bad for this dude other than his own kind.
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peter henderson2021-12-29 19:04:44 (edited 2021-12-29 19:05:40 )
@Narendra M u dont know what ur thalking bout kid every human being is capable of making mistakes in life and dont u see that this mister feels bad for what he did and dont forget he probably gonna do some time in jail so his life and career are also ruined
@peter henderson 1. You lost any credibility for your argument when you call the other end "kid" to make your point. 2. This "mister" feeling or not feeling bad after the fact doesn't really make a difference. Maybe a judge might think he's still human if this "mister" regrets and/or feels bad. 3. I still stick with my prior comments- you REALLY need to weigh your life choices to defend or justify or feel bad this "mister" This will be my last reply unless you have something worth saying.
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peter henderson2021-12-29 23:54:24 (edited 2021-12-29 23:55:08 )
@Narendra M ofcourse it makes a difference if a person has rumorse and really feels bad of what he did. 2. i have never justified his actions or defending him my point is look at the story from his point of view cuz there s ALWAYS 2 sides of a story. 3. dont let hate overwhelm you and may jezus bless you and provide you
@Narendra M you cant just report someone or have their name and adress cus you dont like what they said lol who do you think you are detective dipshid?
I don’t understand why people feel sorry for Lee. Doesn’t matter if Savannah attacked him or tried to blackmail him, normal people don’t murder Lee is an idiot
Honestly, if i was in this situation i'd probably still incriminate myself. Even if i were innocent. I guess that's why there are so many cases of forced confession and coercion.
@Robert Joseph that's why in basically every nations criminal justice system you can get a public defender, a lawyer paid by the state in case you are unable to afford one.
This is why you should always just deny everything. If all else false, DENY. There are many innocent people who get convicted of crimes because they’re scared into doing so by hearing the list of charges they COULD face if they plead not guilty and are found guilty anyways.
Have you seen the interrogation of Russel Williams? There is a moment when he's confronted with the evidence and he just sits silently for about 30m while he processes the fact that he's been caught.
I could watch the beginning of that interrogation go on forever, I'm really happy they got justice for that poor girl but I'm sure if they let rodarte keep talking he'd turn a simple short answer question into a description of all the Spider-Man movies
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Island Visions2021-12-21 19:14:26 (edited 2021-12-21 19:15:14 )
As someone with autism I tend to over explain about everything, especially when there is a story behind it. Multiple times I have been accused of various things and even wrongfully arrested because I struggle with eye contact and tend to panic ramble when I am asked a question. If I was in this guys situation but I was innocent, I would almost certainly get accused of something.
@Barry Hildreth In theory I agree, but I am one of those people that just seems to get in trouble, being accused of things I know nothing about. I remember being sat at the police station some years back, no idea why I was there and trying to understand what I could have possibly done wrong. When I found out what I was actually accused of (property damage of some sort) I didn't know what to say or how to explain myself, so I went into extreme detail, trying to remember every little thing I saw that evening. I even explained how I remembered seeing someone with the same jacket as me, with a bandaged up blood covered hand, and that just made them believe me less still. I am also extremely claustrophobic so when they tried to put me in a cell I put up a fight and then went into a full blown panic attack. They called out a paramedic who checked me over and it just so happened that during that time they found the person who had actually done the damage....with witnesses! They let me go shortly after and didn't even say sorry or anything.
I have had similar experiences too but not quite as bad. Once my car broke down due to a power failure so I had to fix the issue there and then, but I was on the edge of an industrial estate, and I only pulled in there because by car light and power kept cutting on and off. ANyway I was trying to work on the issue (bad battery terminal connection) and had no tools, so was trying to find a way to wedge it on tighter. Anyway the police turned up and asked what i was doing, and again I went into extreme detail so they would understand, and within minutes my car was surrounded by police cars and they tried to put me in handcuffs whilst they searched my car. Again I panicked and fought back and tried to explain my situation and that I cnt be restricted like that as I cant cope with it. So they just held me there while the others searched my car.....and found nothing. The problem is that I always go instantly into so much detail without even realising until afterwards.
I know these situations are very minor, but it shows how someone like myself can end up in a bad situation despite being totally innocent. I guess though that proper investigators would likely take this into consideration, but still, it does make me worry that I could end up on the wrong side of the law again due to a misunderstanding.
@HyTyde I agree, it just makes me worry is all. Then again normal police are somewhat different than the ones who interrogate people, so I guess it would be less of a concern.
@Island Visions well I am sorry to hear you have to deal with that disability other regular. It sounds like you are a very adjusted person none the less, and I commend you for it. I stand behind my original statement. I understand your perspective, but my only point was they don't run around accusing innocent people of murder. There is a high standard for evidence and you should never find yourself in a situation where you are a suspect, unless you should be. If you are, be thankful for the preponderance of evidence that will exonerate you. Cell phone records, cctv, DNA, etc will cross you off the list in short order. I hope that clears up what I was saying. Cheers.
Even though he was into drugs and stuff, he seems to be building a life for himself, becoming a manager, a chef and all, yet in some moments of madness he lost everything, became a murderer. Mind is a strange thing, given the right conditions, the mind can totally possess a human, as if, human goes into some auto pilot mode, seemingly nicest people can flip 180, of course not every flip turns to murder, but definitely very unpredictable, and substance abuse doesn't help. Now he got 40 years to regret and ask forgiveness from Savannah, but will he ever forgive himself?
Well said. Life can add up and if not dealt with in a healthy way when it releases all at once things we never thought we were capable of can happen. The choices we make can either free us or eventually cause some to loose all freedom.
keep in mind that for every video you see of such suspects like Lee, there are 10 times as many that never make this 'mistake' and ask for a lawyer....
I always laugh at Lee when he's a sniveling man child at the end. If only he had that same amount of pity and regret before strangling and murdering Savannah.
Guys this is what a illogical human being looks like. Hey killed her because he was sick of her so-called spreading rumors because he was afraid he lose his job. So instead he kills her as if people weren't immediately going to point him as the suspect considering they just broke up and knowing he would very likely get caught and not only then lose his job at lose his freedom. We had even an ounce of the ability to think logically then this would have crossed his mind and stopped him from doing what he did.
The end, lee ONLY having these emotions about his own outcome.. how the hell does this person's mind work? How doesn't he feel guilty... God rest her soul.
The female investator is the most emotional one among all the videos 34:26 life is so much easier if you dont kill people Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors in February and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.
This is the type of guy who should never be let out regardless of if she hadn't died. He's clearly self aware even saying he can't go in to prison like that, then apologizing to a spirit, then getting angry again. That's fucking frightening I'd rather the dude was just psycho 247 so u know. The fact that he knows what he did is wrong is what makes this even worse.
How he says he's so stupid to himself,didn't quite explain how he managed to dispose of the body in such a manner, the murder,yes ,he seemed sorry, or maybe telling himself he was stupid but there was another aspect to his admission I find intriguing.
At 6:36 you can see Lee wipe the sweat off of his right hand in anticipation of a handshake with the detective as he entered the room. Chillingly calculated.
It’s really sad to watch someone who seems to be pretty happy with their life throw it all away with a gruesome act of violence. Unlike other murders, I think Lee genuinely feels bad for what he’s done. He made a horrible horrible mistake out of emotion of whatever was said or done in that car. To me he clearly is remorseful but that doesn’t erase what he’s done. He’s guilty. And the whole story is incredibly sad. I don’t doubt that he may have killed her by mistake but I don’t buy self defense
Holy Shit! What looks like a normal interview, questions asked and answered doesn't look at all sus... until... you add what the detectives are looking for and answer timers, the guilt starts pouring out. My god, the more I watch the more guilty he looks. Also, this dude is really dumb, they tell him they know he is lying because of a video from a camera, then, the moment the detectives leave he continues to talk out loud like cameras don't exist. Also, this is not the first time I have seen an interview where they were caught because of a camera, then continue to talk after the police leave the room and that recording is used as evidence.
The guy lied in the first minute… “I haven’t done drugs since… like high school” lmfao adios and your “you were going places” line… chef hahaha the boys at the pen will appreciate your skills. This entire story is just sad though but this guy is the saddest
I just want to point out that a cause of some of his elaborate responses was most likely because he was on Adderall for the first time in years
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Leo Nard2021-12-27 04:12:24 (edited 2021-12-27 04:12:58 )
Lee is probably the weakest 5'11 guy out there, talk about fearing his life after receiving multiple slaps in the face from a 5'0 girl.. what a lame excuse..
It is intereseting that he talks to himself in the third person - maybe he psychologically dissociates his evil part from the good one as a form of mental protection or he might be really crazy.
Even though some crimes seem like you obviously should be locked up for the rest your life, if not put to death, I wonder if there’s this kind of unintended level of justice that hits when the person is released when they’re like 70 and even though they have a little bit of a life to live freely, maybe it hits them super hard all the things that they didn’t do because they spent their whole life in prison. Like if you never got out you would still die after a sad depressing life but you wouldn’t necessarily know what you’ve been missing and might lose touch with that. Orrrrrrr maybe it’s better that extreme offenders all die in prison….
I remember when this happened how sad. Im from Jacksonville fl and I think the authorities knew it was her punk bf all along. R.I.P Savanah... btw the food is good at that place.
Really, my takeaway was that you shouldn’t live a life of a drug addict and associate other drug addicts. Bad thing s tend to happen, one way or another.
Wow! Killing over fear of losing a job? Kinda makes you ashamed being human. But good to know there are some good people out there still holding the human race in high regards.
I think that's what it truly was, but he pled self defense and got a plea deal for 2nd degree murder and 40 years. Most likely why they didn't show the actual confession. It doesn't line up because she was trying to escape, so he was obviously preventing her. Apparently his sister is also in jail for a "self defense" murder. I dunno, seems kinda like a travesty of justice.
K. Flo2021-12-21 19:46:40 (edited 2021-12-21 19:46:54 )
"Where was the last place you saw Savannah?"
"You could start by running to the Room of the Three Gargoyles. Push in the right tongue, and a door might lead you down a staircase into the wall climb--here, you must choose your next path. You could race up to the Observatory, spin the sundial, and pass into the Room of the Golden Idols. Once there, push down on their bases to release the doors, that may take you below, or lead you into the ShRiNe of the SiLvEr MoNkEy. Assemble the statue there and you may be headed for the Torch Room! If the elevator is up, you could jump into the elevator and descend into the mine shaft. You might climb up the ladder, or plow through the stone wall. Find the key, and it may unlock the Tombs of the Ancient Kings, allowing you to climb into the Spider's Lair. If you escape, you may have a chance to sit upon the Throne of the Pretender. If the correct door is unlocked, you'll be able to crawl into the Pit of Despair, and finally make your way through the Cave of Sighs back to the Temple Gate. The choices are yours and yours alone...good luck."
I watched too many cop shows but the cut of the confess segment makes me think a senator's son actually did it and they paid a guy to take the fall lmao.
I wonder if his responses would've been different had he not been on Adderall. I've known some people who wanna sit there and talk and talk and talk after taking one
JCS has quickly risen to become one of my favorite YT channels. The expert way in which he breaks down interrogation videos is addicting and just plain interesting to watch. Love everyone of your vids, Keep up the great work.
Heroin can make you paranoid if you’re an addict and only doing it to feel normal/not get sick. But even then using would make you way less paranoid typically. What a rookie
Note to criminals, or more importantly innocent people. SAY NOTHING TO ANYONE. The texts were idiotic. If he hadn't sent the texts the footage might have been erased before an investigation happened.
"known for his charm and charisma"-- he looks like a complete douchebag. Oh. Jacksonville. Charming and charismatic for there I guess.
"she wasn't the type to get paranoid"-- This is what is known as an incredible leap of logic. (sorry I tried to reference that-- there was a drinking game for STTNG that had incredible leap of logic as one of the rule, but it seems to have disappeared)
Why would someone capable of that crime feel remorse? That's weird. This makes me feel like they talked him into admitting the crime. The emotional distress would be immediate. It would be a murder-suicide, not a tried-to-get-away-with murder. (at least for me). Did they find physical evidence at his house where he supposedly burned her? If not, I don't believe it.
@10:38 Mr. Lee R. You mean to tell me, she in YOUR restaurant Severing up Rice 🌾 Krispies? Yet, She over there 👉 taking out all the crackle. The Lies!!!!!
You guys tend to forget one thing yeah he took a 40 year plea deal but my guess is that guy aint never coming home what yall think his bid will be 40 years of smooth sailing yeah right as dumb as he is he will get himself in trouble prolonging his sentence what i think this guy is gone for good
Bro luv your,work and watch alot of your police interviews,but it's was Friday the 4th asto your Friday 5 just a red hern,keep rolling them out,and me and my friends luv it
His text that he tried to fake as coming from her, attempting to keep the heat down were the VERY things that arouse suspicion and turned up the heat on her disappearance lol
Heroin causes one of the most extreme paranoias on earth. Not intrinsically perhaps but extrinsically. It induces the paranoia of getting arrested while addicted to heroin and being dope sick in jail. An extreme, visceral fear...
I don't believe that I have the capability of being able to couch anything in a vernacular that's going to be understood by the people that you want me to talk to.
Detective: "So how long have you known Savannah?" Rodarte: "Okay so it all started with the Big Bang, right?" Proceeds to make a timeline of the known universe
That woman is a horrible actor. I don’t know if it’s different if she’s talking towards you or something but from a bird’s eye, this is just horrible. The constant girly voice asking where the girl is, “Im beghing you “. How’d he fall for this?
That quick "What happened to your neck" confrontation made MY heart skip a beat while making a face. Definitely wouldn't last in an interrogation like this 😄
You know, parents will talk to their kids about drugs, or teen pregnancy, but they never explain that letting you anger get out of control will REALLY ruin their lives. I know most parents assume their kid isn't capable. Murder is one of the only mistakes that can't be fixed or undone. It's never worth it.
You're so right. Especially with men, who are raised to believe that anger is a much more masculine and acceptable response than a litany of other emotions... especially sadness. We need to teach our boys how to process their emotions. Crying isn't just for girls.
From a neuroscience perspective, it’s not necessarily about talking or not talking to your kids about anger. When people murder others in fits of rage, it’s a prefrontal cortex thing - sadly, no amount of logical explanation in childhood could have prevented it. Usually complex childhood trauma/abuse results in the underdevelopment of the prefrontal cortex, which is responsible for logical decision making. Unfortunately, if someone doesn’t have that brain buffer/censorship area developed and they’re faced with a in a highly charged, threatening situation there is no built in system to stop their rage.
We have zero education about how to manage emotions and finances: 2 things that run our daily lives.... yet we teach geometry and wood working. It wouldn’t solve everything but could save someone undoubtedly.
@Oran Gutan Surprisingly, the people who talk less are suspected less. Even if they did suspect someone of hiding evidence, they couldn't send them to jail without some form of confession or overwhelming evidence.
@MK Agreed. If I see just a random guy with a bowtie walking down the street, for some reason it feels out of place even though it isn't. It's just not very common to see people wearing bowties.
Honestly, men who wear bowties do in fact spark a sudden interest in me. I see a man with a bowtie and ask myself, "what the fuck is this dud doing wearing a bowtie? Where is he going that requires a bowtie? Who the hell is this man?" but I have to pause and reel in my curiosity, because even for a woman, stopping some random guy and asking him a billion questions over one aspect of his wardrobe is extremely frowned upon. Definitely adds some intrigue, though.
my dad is a math/engineering professor and wears bow ties to class. he is loved and his rate my professor reviews are great. but they also fear him and im sure much of it has to do with his choice of neckwear
I just never understand stuff like this. Worst case scenario he loses his job and gets one somewhere else yet he decides to kill her and burn her body? Just makes no sense to me.
Yeah, the motive is unclear....only thing I can think of is if she was pregnant or told him she was....thats a reason to kill, but nothing else other than accidental, or maybe the instant fear of an assault charge
@Misery the person you replied to wasnt saying it's a valid reason to murder her, just that it's a believable motive that some messed up people have...
Exactly! And as someone who has worked in kitchens for years now, it's no secret that coworkers constantly are hooking up behind the scenes. I've seen this at every restaurant I've ever worked at. Yeah it might be "against company policy" to do it, but people are people and they're gonna do what they wanna do regardless.
Plus if he's a head chef at a restaurant and if he's good at what he did, worst case is they fire him and he can go be a head chef somewhere else! Restaurants hire people like crazy. So this I truly don't understand what the FUCK he was thinking. It's a tragic situation all around. What he did was monstrous but the reasoning for it was more so. It made no fucking sense.
Star _gazer The things he’s done, alone, makes him pretty hideous to me. I didn’t think he was “ugly” or “good-looking”, though, aesthetically speaking? He looks kinda boring. Most murderers look boring. I never understand what women—men, as well, I suppose—see in them.
@Presto Hobo It's more just a folksy saying than some kind of superstition, and I doubt anybody actually believes that. I think the main difference is the fat cooks are sneaking more food during work lol.
@AlchimisteVerbal It was probably a calculated move for her to be on her phone ignoring him. I don't know though, I don't know anything about interrogation tactics besides what I've seen on this channel lol
He has a big ego and success being a womanizer which most likely put the idea in his head that he has control over women and they need to pay attention to him. Notice he was looking in that female detective's direction the whole time and she didn't give him the time of day. It subconsciously breaks him down and puts him in his real place, which is one where he has no power at all.
@Alex Galate Honestly he might have just been looking at her because he had been sitting there for 90 minutes and had nowhere else to direct his attention.
I think I know what was going on in Rodarte's head. As a certified "Playa", he was working on an effective pickup line for the detective: What's a sweet thing like you doing in 25-35 years? Wanna hookup?
ASMR Pillow you must have some kind of psychological disorder. This is a homicide interrogation. Not a daycare center. Rudeness has no relevance with anything going on here. The mere fact you would suggest the murderer is being treated rudely is craziness beyond all that’s imaginable
@MostlyLoveOfMusic yeah she was very rude. she should treat this brutal murderer with care and love. hell maybe a flirtatious smile would help. maybe a friendly selfie too!
Genius interrogation move. Make him feel completely awkward and do anything to get away from the emotional guilt-tripping mom cop that ignores him like his real mommy did.
Lee: Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.
@A Ultra Mega Maga alpha and omega , seriously? You took the fable of a sith lord and wanted to turn it into Bible study? What a pitiful demonstration, while taking the cringe factor to 11. Please, go save those who need saving,... like David "The Apostle" Taylor. He needs your help, go,... seek and save! Leave Star Wars alone,... they have enough problems now that it's owned by Disney. Oh, and lay off the Caps-Lock, for the love of Christ. You're either yelling or you're a sovereign citizen in court,... pick one!
If you’re not going to invoke your 5th amendment rights, this is probably the way to go. Followed closely with “I AM THE SENATE” and pulling out a lightsaber.
@HereIsWisdom 1318 , I know George Lucas is old, but not that old. The idea may have some roots in the bible, but its not Theology. A more appropriate template to use would be reminiscent of a Greek tragedy. Yet there are hundreds of cultures and religions that have "The Heroes Journey" genre embedded in their fables, including the bible. Yes, Jar Jar Binks was the 13th apostle.
Him: “The FitnessGram Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. [beep] A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound. [ding] Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark, get ready, start.”
@Bigdoinks yeah, I think it’s a regional thing, I’m in Canada and most schools in my province call it the beep test. Pacer test sounds better to me tho
Johnny Natrium2021-06-17 16:26:08 (edited 2021-06-17 16:33:25 )
@Bigdoinks I'm a Beeper too. But here's the twist - Beep crosses the fkn ocean to my Dutch middle school. "Piepjestest" (we don't put spaces between words that form their own term) to give you the literal version. Pronounced similarly though to relate; Peep(-'jes' pronounced 'yus' is a plural diminutive addition which basically turns the word Beep into 'Little beeps') test which is the same as in English. Piep (peep) doesn't have the synonymous definition in Dutch that it would have in English, where it would've been easily conflated with the act of observing (and usually implying voyeurism of some sort). At the same time in Dutch wouldn't want to use the B; the word Bieb (pronounced like beep) is commonly already used to refer to a library. (bibliotheek from the French bibliothèque and I'm sure you're familiar with the word bibliography- but just taking the first part of the word (which is pronounced with the EE sound, not like 'bib' in English) for colloquial speech). Anyway the point is that even in The Netherlands it's referred to as the "lil'-beep test".
Being a chef is an actual job. Not a reason to commit murder, but its not a job to downplay. And some people like stability in their life and become anxious about sudden changes. But I dont think his job was the real motive anyway
he seemed like a troubled guy who expected a lot from himself, for some people (actually many people) being a chef at an ok place means a lot. They probably had drug problems too, and were a toxic relationship... for someone who has trouble keeping a normal life, the fear of losing a job you like means a lot. It doesnt justify what he did tho I hope he gets life.
@Mer Ber I think the op was just saying that he probably could've just gotten another job as a chef elsewhere. That is if he didn't y'know, murder his girlfriend.
@Thesos320 Unfunny, intentionally offensive name that we have all see more times than we care to remember -- check Aggressive, snarky answer that adds nothing to the conversation -- check Reference to "cool" TV show fantasy world rather than reality -- check
@Mer Ber He has to be a person like myself who don't give a shit. Another reason people commit murder is REPUTATION. They keep a lot of secrets and they are quiet but dangerous.
@Pommie 🐻 Bears yeah, some pharmaceutical stimulants are in the amphetamine family. I only know this because I have a sleep disorder, so I've been on some of them. Tbh they worked pretty good for me but my parents didn't like them so much so we switched to something else. Whenever I signed a drug test consent form when on them, I got to leave a fun little note on the bottom, like, "feel free to test me but I'm definitely positive. Pinky promise I'm not on actual meth though!"
I've always known Adderall was close to meth, but never knew how. Having recently started taking it and really benefitting from it I'm curious now. Is it just cleaner, smaller doses that makes it different?
If they show up as the same on drug tests maybe he hadn't taken adderall that day but meth but lied to cover it up because he knew exactly that they are similar?
@Corinne It's not, though. That extra methyl group meth has matters, and two drugs with similar chemical structure can have different effects. Adderall taken at very high doses may be somewhat similar to meth, but they're still different drugs. Meth is more potent, more addictive, and more euphoric. Plus, I don't know how many meth users weigh out their meth before using, where as Adderall is already dosed. It's more dangerous and worse for you.
@Corinne yes and no. They are very similar, but not exactly the same. They show up on the same test because the test looks for a reaction to amphetamines, not just to meth specifically. Also, when you get meds from a pharmacy, you know what you're getting and what you're getting is more optimized to be only what you need, as opposed to what is probably contaminated or otherwise unnecessarily harmful drugs from a dealer.
Not at all. Vicodin is weak compared to heroin. Vicodin is Hydrocodone. A heroin addict wouldn't even feel vicodin. But you can achieve the same peak abusing meth or adderall. It's not night and day. Same peak, same risk and reward for addiction, same come down. The only difference is you can't really bang or smoke adderall, so it seems cleaner. It's just legal, that's why it gets a pass.
I don't think he took it that day. He's not really tweaking in this interrogation. Maybe he is and he's good at hiding it. But I've never met somebody who can hide being twacked out.
The peak of abusing large amounts of adderall is no different than peaking on methamphetamines. It might be molecularly, but it's not a distinguishable high. Nobody that abuses drugs cares about the scientific differences between two drugs. If it gets them to the same peak, what does it matter? The risk for abuse is the same.
@Cryptic Raps Yeah, but most people who take Adderall aren't taking it by the handfuls. It's incredibly expensive. Any Adderall addicts I've met have switched to either amphetamine paste or meth. I doubt this guy was taking 200 mg before a shift at work. I also wouldn't say the high isn't indistinguishable. I rarely have heard Adderall described as intensely euphoric and it doesn't last as long.
Not defending him but despite the pharmacological similarities there is a massive difference in many different ways between adderall and street bought methamphetamine. I sadly know this from first hand experience
CrypticRaps if you add like one neutron to water you can’t drink it, if you add one oxygen to water... you can’t drink it. Adderal is like 7 whole carbon chains off from meth, just because it sounds the same doesn’t mean it’s the same... everyone thinks they’re on to something with that lmao
@Cryptic Raps I don't mean to sound overly mean or offensive, but it sounds like you know very, very little about Adderall. It's not even close to as addictive as meth, and as a matter of fact, most studies find that children who take it are less likely to become addicted to drugs in general as adults. That's not to say that it doesn't have the potential for abuse. But taking a dose of Adderall from a friend because you want to be more focused during the day is immensely different from using meth to get high.
@Arbitrary Renaissance How would children Adderal users be less likely to get an addiction to drugs as they grow older? Where are these studies you're mentioning? It makes no logical sense that a child who uses an addictive prescription growing up would have a less addictive brain than a child who has never ingested addictive drugs. Credible sources please.
@Anastasia Fuller The commonsense intuition is that Adderall is used to treat ADHD. If the ADHD is being successfully treated by the drug, then the likelihood of a child to get addicted to other substances is lowered, as kids with ADHD are more likely to develop substance use disorders growing up. Furthermore, I haven't found any good data indicating that Adderall is particularly addictive. Which is partly due to the fact that addiction is hard to define and diagnose in the first place, but my personal experience with ADHD stimulants leads me to believe that it's also because it really isn't addictive in the same way that tobacco is.
Anyway, I do have a source for my claim that children put on stimulants for ADHD are less likely to develop drug problems growing up. It comes from a clinical report by the American Academy of Pediatrics, which compiles and analyzes more than 80 different studies on the subject of substance abuse and ADHD. One of its conclusions is that pharmacotherapy for ADHD (i.e. prescribing medication) is associated with a reduced risk of SUDs. See the section titled "Treating ADHD and Co-occurring Mental Health Disorders to Reduce the Risk of SUDs
" in the report: https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/1/e293#sec-4
Yes, and using meth once is a immensely different that taking 400 adderall pills a day. That's just anecdotal. I never said anything about anyone taking adderall one time to stay focused during the day. Everything is fine in moderation. I don't know what studies would even monitor that, but of course a majority of addicts don't become addicts as a child. And adderall is overprescribed. So of course the stats would show that. But it doesn't correlate to what I'm saying at all. An addict doesn't just wake up one day saying they want to be an addict. I feel like it goes without saying that they're usually troubled kids. It must mean the parents somewhat care about the child if they're trying to get them on adderall, thinking it might help. What about the kid that just had to deal with ADHD and never got on adderall? I don't take what you said as mean or offensive, because I think you're wrong.
That is true. Meth is much cheaper. And there are many different ways of administering. Especially IV, where you can peak immediately. I'm just saying if the dosage is right, it'd be very hard to distinguish between the two drugs. And you can most definitely become addicted to adderall, then switch to meth because it's cheaper and you get the same effect to quell the itch for wanting to tweak.
@Cryptic Raps perhaps indeed the interglobual fermistoods are vintrilically the dormate fistatude but the geneplasits don't fit the sortimolicle forensics
Mmmmyes good sir! Very astute point! The intricacy of your mind compels me. Please give me a statistic so I can log it into my microsoft excel spreadsheet
@Arbitrary Renaissance I'll need to review those studies. Longer use equals more tolerance which increases the correlation to abuse. Not a single causation but increased correlation. Partically, due to D2 receptor sensitivity. This is addiction Physiology. If you are in the field of pharmaceutical science. This is psychopharmacology 101. Methamphetamine and amphetamine are not the same per say. They stem from the same family tree. Example, Just like lisdeteroampthetamine (which is less addictive because of slower absorbency) is a conversation step to amphetamine. Same family tree different drug. If you do the chemistry correctly you can convert it back to methamphetamine. I am a med student and I am in pharmaceuticals. Particularly, pharmacotherapy.
@Cryptic Raps You kind of did say something about taking Adderall one time to stay focused during the day, because that's what you started this discussion with. You implied that the guy being interrogated here was a hypocrite because he wanted to stay away from "hard stuff" like meth, but took an Adderall to stay focused. If my dad decides to give my grandma a dose of his Adderall, because she wants to pay more attention to the road while she's driving home, does that mean she'd be a hypocrite for wanting to avoid meth?
I'm not entirely sure if you understand what the statistic I reference was saying. Take the kid who just had to deal with ADHD and never got on Adderall (or other stimulants like ritalin). Compared to the kid who was prescribed stimulants to treat their ADHD (who usually ends up going off of the prescription upon entering adulthood), this child is much more likely to develop a substance use disorder. It wasn't saying that those who are addicted to substances are more likely to develop that addiction as a child.
@Andrew Zambrana Well, developing a tolerance doesn't always mean developing an addiction. If I regularly take ritalin, I may develop a tolerance for it without ever noticing, then get off of the drug without any trouble because its effects were so marginal once I'd gained a tolerance. With regards to ADHD stimulants specifically, the studies seem to show that over the course of several years, the drug does begin to lose its effect. The good news is that it doesn't make people worse than normal, even on people who stopped the medications later. The MTA study has the details: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063150/
@Arbitrary Renaissance Probably because Adderall actually helps people with ADD and ASD to function normally and not face the bullying issues that lead to adult substance abuse.
@Anastasia Fuller Probably because Adderall actually helps people with ADD and ASD to function more normally and not face the bullying issues that lead to adult substance abuse.
Also Adderall isn't actually addictive. The ability to focus might be "addictive" in the sense that it helps you function but Adderall doesn't get you high.
@Cryptic Raps What do you mean "What about the kid that just had to deal with ADHD and never got on adderall?" Sorry I know you're replying to someone else but I used to take Adderall so I have an interest in this conversation. Also I don't know that you could take a lot of it. A few times I accidentally doubled my dose and I thought my heart might beat its way out of my chest. Felt sick and shaky too. Like I had waaay too much coffee.
@Andrew Zambrana I'm not sure it's abuse if you just need more of it to be effective because you have developed a tolerance. I think abuse is when you take more to get a stronger effect. Perhaps they are technically the same but I don't think that reflects what people think when they think drug abuse.
@Arbitrary Renaissance I think it's because they don't experience the same amount of bullying. Bullying leads to addiction and other forms of self-harm, including suicide. I can't stand people who say children should never be medicated. If you or your child hasn't got a condition that can be helped by these meds you have no idea what you're talking about so stay out of it.
On the contrary,most people do think before they act. In addition, we all know the consequences of murdering someone but many think that they'll be the one who gets away with it etc
not gonna lie when he asked him about the scratch on his neck i thought he was gonna fumble but lowkey i was kinda impressed how quickly he came up with an actual believable lie
Omg that female detective please please please I’m begging you please please tell me please. Please just tell me , just tell me lee. Please learn proper technique because this ain’t it.
I can’t wait to try the food at the Bonefish Grill, oh my God, what committed workers!!! They would do anything to keep from losing their job, literally anything.
@DJ_Cub Who knows? Neither of them was very smart. Poor girl, how did she get into this mess? Sometimes you think you know someone and don’t realize the mistake until it’s too late. We do not realize how sick that person is. I do not know what happened, I only know that she tried to escape and he, for some incomprehensible reason, did not allow it. So sad.
@Daniellehndz099 It seems that she threatened to tell people something and thus make him lose his job at the Bonefish Grill. Well, it’s what he says. Crazy, right? Many years ago something similar happened to me with a girl, but my problem was very different, it was she who did not want to get out of the car. She came to my work shortly before closing, 1:00 am, more or less, she told me she had drunk and that she was tired, she asked me to take her home. She was my ex. It didn’t make me funny that she went out there alone so late, besides at that time there was a crazy guy around the neighborhood who attacked girls at night, I think he used to wait for them in the doorway of their houses. The police had not yet caught him. On the other hand, I had left her, and she was very sad, so I was eager to make her see that we could still be friends. And, ultimately, I would have brought any other girl to her house who had asked me to. We got to her house and we talked for a long time in the car, it got very late and I was sleepy, I wanted to go home to sleep, in the end I asked her to get out of the car, we could continue talking the next day, but she refused. At first I did not understand if the thing was serious or joking, I just repeated to her to get out the car, tomorrow would be another day, but she refused again. I began to understand that this was serious. I begged her to get out of the car and let me go home, but she didn’t flinch. I should have gone to the police, but I was too tired and confused to think rationally, I started yelling at her to get off the car and leave me alone, but it didn’t help. Then I began hitting her while yelling at her to get the fuck down, hit her on the shoulder because I didn’t want to hurt her, and I prayed that every hit was the last. Trust me it’s no fun hitting someone you love. Thank God at one point she changed her mind and left, that night for the first time, I dreamed of Jesus.
Facing a guilty plea on General assumptions always leaves room he falsely stereotyping innocent man and I see that you are a minority at least if you were in the United States say would you like somebody to base their level of mint on your guilt or innocence based on what they've seen from behaviors of other people may be of your race to.... probably not
@Nick H they aint laughing about murder bruh, they're laughing about the murderer keep on talking and therefore revealing critical information through holes in his story. it's about how stupid he is, not how funny his murdering act is.
@DeuceGenius When the Police and the District Attorney's office are given free reign to lie to suspects, when do they stop? Since we can't answer this question, it would be safe to assume all law enforcement, and all prosecutors lie at all times and under all circumstances. As such, there is no reason to answer a single question.
It's interesting, against the context of Lee's fabricated emotional presentation, to notice that the emotional presentation of the detectives is equally fabricated. Basically, we're watching two parties lie to each other and hope it goes their way. That seems interesting and novel until you remember that this is just how social interaction among humans works.
The female detective was garbage and it's clear she's only there for affirmative action. She almost completely ruined everything (the part where she was begging him to confess was cringe af) but the male colleague clutched it out. I hope she got demoted after this, almost denied the victim her justice.
@Sleepy Joe Didn't realise a lifelong legendary interrogator tactician was in the comments. How the fuck could you possibly know if she 'ruined everything' if footage of the confession wasn't even shown?
DaleDenton1132. Yup. It’s sad, but some people would rather virtue signal and play jewish games than ensure justice is delivered. It’s a big part of the reason our society seems so corrupt today, and I hope these cultists realize their folly (although hopefully through not losing their daughter).
If I was arrested for a traffic violation and then questioned about a missing girl, the only words out of my mouth would be to demand legal representation before I said anything else.
agreed. the only thing is how do you say it? in this case i would have said "you made me wait 20 minutes- no respect, i'm going to talk to my legal council and we'll have this talk after that"
Joseph Cooper Not true, when they would later have no other leads they would come back to ground zero and rework it probably leading to him anyways. #1 rule when being questioned by police wether you did or didn’t commit a crime is to say this single word “lawyer”
@Sir Dankleberry This is under the assumption I had committed some awful crime, in which case I use literally all my money to hire the best lawyer possible and then give the investigators little to no information
@Tom Foolery You never know how your responses and reactions to questions can incriminate you in the eyes of detectives even if none of the evidence points to you directly
@The Menagerie see this guy was fucced from the start. He had a warrant which allowed them to bring him in, and pretty much question him till they got wht they wanted or until possibly the body was found and make their case from that. Now if u have no warrants etc and they ask u to come in YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SAY NO. There is nothing they can do about that. U just tell them u don't feel comfortable doing that without a lawyer. Yes this will peek their curiosity more but so wht. That will allow u to get a lawyer in the mean time. Even if I'm innocent of a crime I'm not saying anything without my attorney.
Crime doesn't pay. No matter how angry you may be it isn't worth it to throw your whole life away by killing someone. Prison is full of fools who couldn't control their anger. Kinda reminds me of that song sung by Jimi Hendrix, "Hey Joe".
@Tanya Vasina quick diagnosis is because of a lot of knowledge about narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths, schizophrenics, etc through much reading, listening, watching. Common sense and intuition are very important too.
@Jack SG if he was that worried about losing his job maybe he shouldn''t of hooked up with her in the first place if he knew that would get him fired? sure thats the most common sense
Another reason his responses are so long, could be because he sat in anticipation for 90 minutes coming up with canned responses for possible questions. Just a theory
JCS just makes shit up that fits the video/cop narrative. One video accepting water is a sign of guilt the next saying no thanks to water is a sign of guilt. It's whatever fits.
@my name is jeeeyf Both cases are correct. It's a tricky question. You have to bring your own water bottle or ask to drink the interrogator's saliva if you're innocent.
@my name is jeeeyf It really depends on a combination of behavioral most people get caught because they did things heat of the moment or even more stupid bragged about who they killed
That’s exactly what the narrator’s point is that preplanned answers/lies are more drawn out and detailed than someone just telling the truth on the spot don’t matter if he thought of it the day Before on the way to the station or during that 90 min period try again
These are actual psychological tactics. Proven to work. Facts are facts and they don’t care about how you feel. If you were innocent then you wouldn’t act so defensively by elaborating on your response. This is also a year old so I don’t know why your all salty at the channel. He’s just reporting the facts with more analysis....
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@sky the weeb can't remember the name. He made the video at least a year ago. The interrogated person was black (despite the fact that eye witnesses said the person was white). Was a very good video - seeing interrogation strategies fail for once.
He also recently did one about a woman who was refusing to sell out her husband about killing their daughter and the cops were treating her as if she was guilty. It was heart wrenching
omg he made one where the innocent guy was actually shot twice in the head and was left in the interrogation room for hours and no one noticed he had bullets in his head
There’s been a few - the commenters below mentioned two but there was another where a guy was being interrogated for murdering his girlfriend. They talked to him like they had him dead to rights even though he had a solid alibi, and they ended up putting him in jail for a time after he was literally convicted. Turns out the neighbour murdered her (I think the neighbour was a serial killer, even). Boyfriend was released.
Found it - it was the murder of Nona Dirksmeyer. Video is only on patreon but you can google the case.
I don't know how on this earth people are saying that the lady detective is believable when she interjects with that "my little girl" line... She sounds like she came straight out of a D list wannabe Hollywood production. Then all those "pleaasseeee pleasseee whyyyyy"'s made me cringe super hard.
Detective: “so, how long have you known her?” Lee: “The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds...”
"In the metaphysics of identity, the ship of Theseus is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object. The concept is one of the oldest in Western philosophy, having been discussed by Heraclitus and Plato by c. 500–400 BC. The thought puzzle was discussed by ancient philosophers such as Heraclitus (Cratylus 401d) and Plato (Parmenides 139),[1] later by Plutarch,[2] and more recently by Thomas Hobbes and John Locke. Several variants are known, including the grandfather's axe, which has had both head and handle replaced. The puzzle itself is an example of Ship of Theseus, as the original story has had various elements replaced over time.
The particular "ship of Theseus" version of the thought puzzle was first introduced in Greek legend as reported by the historian, biographer, and essayist Plutarch:
The ship wherein Theseus and the youth of Athens returned from Crete had thirty oars, and was preserved by the Athenians down even to the time of Demetrius Phalereus, for they took away the old planks as they decayed, putting in new and stronger timber in their places, insomuch that this ship became a standing example among the philosophers, for the logical question of things that grow; one side holding that the ship remained the same, and the other contending that it was not the same. — Plutarch, Theseus[2]
Plutarch thus questions whether the ship would remain the same if it were entirely replaced, piece by piece. Centuries later, the philosopher Thomas Hobbes introduced a further puzzle, wondering what would happen if the original planks were gathered up after they were replaced, and then used to build a second ship.[3] Hobbes asked which ship, if either, would be the original ship of Theseus.
An ancient Buddhist text titled in Sanskrit Mahāprajñāpāramitopadeśa, which was later translated into Classical Chinese (Da zhidu lun 大智度論), contains a similar philosophical puzzle. It takes the form of a body-swapping story. The story tells of a traveler who encountered two demons in the night. As one demon ripped off all parts of his body one by one, the other demon replaced them with those of a corpse. The traveler was left confused about who he was after the body-swapping."
When he starts talking about how savannah was using drugs, I honestly believe he said that to make her look like the villain in the story. In his tiny speck sized brain he probably thought "If talk about her doing drugs then she becomes bad guy."
I think he is projecting. I think he is basically switching roles with her in his story to make himself the victim, because he knows he's not and she is, so he says she's the one using and he's the one who left her for it when it was probably the exact opposite. Especially since there was no drugs found in her system but he admits to taking unperscribed adderall that day.
And to make him look like the hero, lecturing her on why she shouldn't do hard drugs. He claimed he split with her when she started on hard drugs because he's all responsible and shit, but we all know she's the one who dumped his ass.
I think, in his own twisted mind, he genuinely thinks she is the villain. After his confession, he says, "fucking Savannah," and "should've just told her to leave me alone." Nobody is around, but he is still blaming her for everything. He probably thinks that it was her fault he killed her.
yeah! Luckily it was a tactic, trying to echo Lee's emotional state. Worked too, see confession here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s After he started confessing she stopped being melodramatic.
If you have information on a missing person, only ever call the police. Do not ever provide this information to somebody claiming to be looking for the person. This is a tactic used by traffickers when one of their victims has gotten away from them.
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Alexander Nelson2021-08-07 18:12:09 (edited 2021-08-07 18:13:26 )
Wow, I did not know that that. I would be suspicious of someone asking but not realize why. that's interesting. Man, the world seems as evil as hell. I am hypersensitive to people's behavior now.
I've spent many hours researching missing and unidentified bodies. Most are women, you know that, however what you may not know and is never actually stated anywhere but almost every woman that ends up with these horrific deaths are almost always 5'3 and under and under 120lbs So please...make sure that the girls you know who are in that size range to please be EXTRA careful in where you go, who your with and try to get them to understand the odds are Not in their favor when it comes to drinking or recreational drug use.
@bear532 tbh pepper spray isn't much use. if your opponent has the decent will power of an average person, then they'll be able to force their eyes open and attack you. They'll be pissed so they'll be even more violent in their attack. Also, if they're close enough when you used it they won't even have to open their eyes they'll just grab you where you last were before they closed their eyes. Seriously, the only thing pepper spray does is make your eyes sting and water and give you a running nose.
ARMYALEX I’ve never been pepper sprayed so I don’t know how it feels. I was watching a video once on one of the guys from jackass and he tested the self defense stuff on himself to find which is best. He said pepper spray was the best out of everything which is why I chose that. Plus, it’s very small and discreet so you can carry it with you all the time.
@ARMYALEX How will the pepper spray help now with them masks on and what if the attacker has glasses on too? I didnt even think of this possibility untill a collegue told me that a pepper spray is of no use in that situation... we need guns
@Smith-Mundt Modernization NDAA 2013(Look into it) i have actually, which is why if you look at my comments one of them explained in DETAILS why pepper sprays aren't always reliable and how you can fight it off
@Sailor Moon your glasses will barely do anything when you get sprayed. it doesn't protect your eyes from all sides. you might have a better chance with a pair of goggles.
The ending argument of JCS "well he was so much heavier and larger then her so it is obviously impossible for her to ever be threat to him" is such bullshit.
In other JCS inspired video, suspect/victim was heavier/larger then his attacker, was trained in martial arts and still the smaller and less trained attacker managed to pummel him to ground without him able to defend himself simply due to intensity and unexpectednes of the attack.
This is clear example of bias. JCS already knew he was guilty so he decided to look at everything from that viewpoint (which would be fine), but then not realizing that his arguments are tinted by that bias and without this foreknowledge, they would not make sense
There's a third type. I call it "Afraid of the Mattress-Tag Police" type. They're totally innocent & have nothing to hide but are still so paranoid they talk for 10 minutes anyway.
Yeah. 40 years and it wasn't even first degree murder... That's actually a little much IMO, he's not sick he just made a really bad mistake. He should have only gotten 20-25 years IMO.
I know the female detective is just doing her job but good lord, her voice made me just about turn this off. Her strategy is to whine suspects into confessing I guess, she really didnt add anything to what the other detective was doing.
Imagine You were telling a lie then suddenly a "click" sound paused the time, everything went gray and some mysterious calm voice said: "We can clearly see the suspect is in state of several panic while trying to convince the detectives he didn't intentionally waked up 3 am and clogged the toilet of their friends after the pepper eating party, leading them to die by the toxic gases"
@xxZozanxx My random thoughts are like: What if the guy who falled from the top floor of the 20m building yesterday in the news when he was using his phone actually was a homicide because he was being observated by someone who intentionally called him for scaring him leading both the evidence and the man falling in a seemingly natural way
They left him in that room for 90 minutes, all alone, with only his thoughts to accompany him. So much must be going through his mind in all that time. And then when the door is opened after all that time, the first person who walks in is the same police detective who a day before asked him about a person who He killed.... Wow what an amazing tactic by the police. Well-done 👏👏
I actually contacted the police and told them what you said. They responded by telling me they did this tactic for one reason: they knew it would please Junayd lr.
The female interrogator was slightly annoying. Her voice could get overly emotional and dramatic and it sounded like she was auditioning for a bad soap opera. The other interrogator was awesome.
@Billy Bob Bobson no it wasn't, it was a quote from Jim about the claim from the guy who was the head chef when he said he was peeling his scabs at work.
I got recommended the video about acting phsycotic, and after seeing how few videoes there are I'm absolutely hooked into a multi-day binge at this point
Looking at a case like this just creeps me the f* out at how close some regular successful manager type employees are literally one psychotic episode away from horrifically murdering someone. Yikes.
I don’t think I’d call the kitchen manager at a chain restaurant “successful” lol. But I get what you mean. Any person can snap in the heat of the moment depending on circumstances. That’s why our judicial system has many different levels of charges for murder.
You should always always have a plan to kill everyone else you ever meet. BUT at the same time you should also always treat others as if they are one last straw away from a mass killing spree themselves. Be nice to people, but trust no one. Be as wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
@Jeffrey Higgins The Stanford Prison Experiment? If you looked into that one, you can't even call it a proper experiment. They urged the 'guard' students to be tough and treat the 'prisoner' students like crap then turn around and act all surprised when the students start acting exactly how they wanted them to. Milgram's experiment is a better example of good people doing bad thing's in certain circumstances.
@Joralion thanks for the information. I saw that on tv years ago when the ‘experiment’ first came out. Thanks for the other referring to Milgram’s. I’ll have to look that up.
He wasn't "regular" though. His mom was a meth head and by his own admission he had a rough early life. Now think of the type of father figures that kind of child hood likely gave him. Think of the type of guy his biological father likely was. Bad genes + bad environment = bad outcome.
This is why you have to always be aware of red flags. You never know what somebody is going through, what they are thinking or what's going through their head. Show kindness to everyone, but also be cautious. If somebody doesn't seem right and you are scared, don't put yourself in a situation where they could harm or kill you. And if you see something, SAY SOMETHING. You might just prevent a tragedy.
@Lunar Phoenix Just cos he did something evil doesn’t mean he’s been evil or has had evil intentions before. He was a really nice guy and is actually remorseful of what he had done.
Injuries to 75% of her body?🥺 And YOU’RE crying?!! I can only imagine how she screamed for her life. And self defense??!! But that girl dealt with all those injuries slowly, suffered and died. Deepest parts of Hell for you sir! Hope you feel some of what she did.
Out of curiosity: I’m a really anxious person and when I’m telling a story (for example, why I was late somewhere), I over-explain and add unnecessary details because I’m afraid people will think I’m being dishonest. It stems from childhood trauma around not being believed about a sexual assault. Would my history be taken into consideration by a forensic psychologist if I were accused of a crime, or would it be based on the interrogation alone?
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tad h2021-12-20 22:06:11 (edited 2021-12-20 22:06:22 )
i’ve heard of so many cases where the people being interrogated were innocent and literally didn’t even have any psychological backing to hint that they were guilty and yet they were still accused of the crimes. This question is entirely dependent on the people who’re interrogating you. If they care about their job they will likely take everything into consideration especially if there’s no evidence leading towards you, rambling won’t matter too much. But in the cases such as the innocent guys i saw from America being accused, if the interrogators just wanna close the case and move on (make their money/be lazy) then yes it could definitely play role in you being accused.
I relate to this behavior, and I also have other neurodivergences that make me prone to this. Thankfully I'm a bit excessively contextually aware and I think my best saving grace would be the fact that I'm the sort to go fully meta and explain my own propensities and contextualize my own tone and everything I'm saying before proceeding to overexplain lol.
(That and I've watched too much of this type of content and legal content so I'd never talk at all before getting an attorney anyway lol, but like hypothetically if I were talking, I know I'd wind up going out of my way to qualify why I'm qualifying the way I'm qualifying everything I say lol, and I figure that would establish enough logical consistency overall for my behavior to be understood in an appropriate personalized way by qualified pros. But of course, without a doubt, if I were a male or a person of color or less articulate, I'd probably be a lot less willing to assume that my demeanor would be taken as sincere and that I'd turn out fine.)
@The plural is actually "asparageese". oh my god, I do the same! I’ll tell a story and start to ramble, and then I’ll say something like, “oh my god, why am I telling you all of these totally inconsequential details? sorry, I’m on a tangent. uh, where was I? …oh!”
@Tony Arcieri are you asking me to tell you, or advising I tell the police if I’m ever in this situation?
edit: I just saw your other comments on JCS’ videos. gems include, “just a typical female” in relation to jodi arias, and “barb shouldn’t have poked the bear on christmas” regarding the ‘christmas with cliff’ perp who killed his ex wife and maimed his daughter. who hurt you?
You keep your mouth shut and ask for an attorney. Assuming you’re under arrest. If not, gtfo and don’t say shit. Cops are NOT your friends and they have one job, which is to build a case against you. Guilty or not. Don’t make it easier for them. You have the right to remain silent. Use it. Lawyer up. And that’s for anyone, nothing to do with your anxiety either way. Every attorney and decent cop I have ever known says the same. I hope none of you never end up in that position. But you do, don’t you hesitate to use those rights. 🤗
I think about this because autism often presents as a lack of emotion in the face and there are damaging academic histories that say that autistic people lack empathy, so we are often compared to or confused with sociopaths/psychopaths/narcissists
This guys anguish is surprisingly uplifting. Watching this and others like it, gives a particular charging effect, especially in the early mornings. Thanks for the recent upload.
Hearing him squirm "mom im gonna die in jail", gave me a smile...this is some heartbreaking shit..these cases break my heart.. Lord please protect me & my family from this type of evil
I was thinking about how I never seen a female detective in one of these and then I realize they used her for an "emotional approach", I wonder how common a tactic that is for female detectives, I wish he went into that more.
i always wonder if the investigators feel a sense of giddiness when they hear someone start to ramble themselves into the confession. if they don’t, i feel it enough for us all haha
he's honestly better than so many other criminals. at the very least he regrets his actions. also you can clearly see that he isn't mentally stable, he likely has a drug addiction and actual self harming tendencies. its just a thought idk for sure. hopefully the time in prison does him good
I only do some pain pills and adderall sometimes but hard drugs scare me! Dude, those are hard drugs! Just because they come from a pharmacy does not mean they aren’t hard drugs, and will probably mess you up worse than the “hard drugs”!
There wasn’t anything more satisfying than seeing him crying coming to the realisation that he was going to spend the rest of his miserable life caged up like a dangerous animals .
God how great would it be to be a detective walking in on a suspect carrying what's essentially a royal flush in your back pocket?
The investigator did a d*mn good job allowing this P.O.S. to bury himself.
I'm certain I probably would have gotten worked up & blurted out "LIAR!" when hearing him b.s. & badmouth the person he just murdered.
This is my second time watching this just because it's classic. Everything from how it played out to the way JCS broke it all down.
I seem to find myself always saying this in my more recent post I make on this channel, but it still remains to be true. "JCS often imitated but never duplicated." His breakdowns are just on another level compared to the others.
Hey JCS I truly hope you do begin uploading more frequently, but even if you don't thanks for giving us the many hours of great content as well as creating a whole new Genre on YouTube.
Why the audacity? ...I'm in no way, shape, or form condoning what he did. Despicable and senseless. But he could very well be genuinely sorry for what he did to her
I think all of that whining and crying for the camera after the confession was just part of the act. He knows he's being recorded. He didn't show his victim any mercy. He deserves none now.
Man that ending where he's literally just knowing his life is over but also realizing he never should be there in the first place...
It's like when somebody has road rage and kills somebody.. but in their home life they have a family, a dog, a house, they're happy. And then one day something just drives them over the edge for a few seconds.
And yeah you can totally believe that they are sorry and remorseful but it's too late the person is already dead..
Seriously be nice to people be calm and courteous you just never know.. yeah they're going to jail for the rest of their life but you're dead so what's the point.
I will admit, even knowing what I know, it was still difficult seeing his pure agony at the end. Don't get me wrong, he did all this, he deserves what is coming, but I don't relish in people's agony. I pity the fact that this ever happened to begin with, that this man caused so much suffering, for himself, and those around him. What a tragedy. :(
I love the glare the detective gives to the camera at 7:10:51-ish; right after the suspect asks for more water. Right after asking to use the restroom. Total: “What the fuck dude? Let me do my job; you’re wasting my time.”
After the lady detective begged, I wouldn't have given a confession. It was a pathetic and annoying desperate plea just foe her to go home. She would have made me not confess with an approach like that. The male detective has a much better approach and professionalism
Fear will really hit him on the ride to prison especially when he sees the prison pulling up at the guard shack.I didn’t hurt nobody but I’ve experienced the ride
Did anyone notice when the interrogator was talking about parents worrying about kids he said "someday when you have kids"? I'm sure the interrogator knew the suspect would never have kids, so was this simply a slip of the tongue or was it deliberate?
Pretty sure it was deliberate to create a sense of calm and hope in the perpetrator. Unconsciously making him feel safe that “ah she wouldn’t be saying that if she thought i did it” so that hr lowers his guard
I recall sitting in the Ale House which is in the next plaza over listening to someone recount this story. I thought they were referring to the Ale House at the time. Another sad tale of the Florida Man gone by...
12 minutes into this interview the killer coughs up the motive for killing her - she was talking about him. NOT TOO SMART. I didn't hear right to remain silent mentioned. Come on, Lee!
When you said (paraphrasing) 'someone with something to hide is long winded in responses to questions that should have very simple answers'...and he started explaining in depth about the relationship I wanted to say "Welll they -d-d ask for him to elaborate so maybe he's just trying to elaborate...".....but then he wouldn't stop. And he just....kept going. And it was like....stop.
It's surprising to me that they know heroine doesn't make you paranoid. Most people, who have never used drugs, usually have no idea what they do and assume the worst. In my experience, it seems like a lot of people tend to equate heroine to something more like LSD.
You hit the nail on the head. I have told people I have done LSD and they looked at me as if I were a Heroin user. Both drugs make you feel insanely good, but that is where the comparison ends!
i wonder if he just snapped from the stress? or was it the history of drug use ? Something just didint click in his head and made him commit this crime.
Notice how he still didn't take accountability. It might sound like it but hes saying "YOU did this" "YOURE an idiot". Sure he might be talking to himself but he still refuses to say "I did this" "What was I thinking".
Ok maybe I’m jumping the gun here but didn’t he say he saw her at work and she was healthy? That was the last time he saw her and now he saw her to confront her about gossip and she was on heroin? Lmao what?!
Shit, i accidentally clicked and once again got roped into your videos. You're definately the best at these but i was trying to watch ghost hunting videos.
I think that the unshown footage would indicate that they made threats against him if he chose not to confess. Don't get me wrong, that guy is a piece of shit who I hope gets put under the jail, but the investigators shit the bed to get their confession and now there has to be a shadow of doubt in regard to his guilt.
Had he not texted with her phone and refused to submit to interrogation he would have gotten away with it. I don’t say that as a devils advocate, I say that because it’s scary to know that even in the 21st century that murder is still a crime that people can get away with.
Y’all ever imagine yourself in the criminals situation even though you know you’d never do it. Or I guess what you would say if you were being interrogated.
Why do people talk to themselves in a recorded room? I don't think I've talked to myself out loud ever but after I just admitted to killing someone and know the room is taped? Nah
"I was at work cooking food for everyone in the World, Pealing my scabs off my neck with my special stabby 'Crocodile Dundee Knife', when I slipped and murdered someone, first degree by the way, by accident on purpose! But, it wasn't me ... promise"
so after he confessed to what he did the only thing he cares about is that he had to “go places in life” he didn’t care that he cold blood killed and burnt a poor young woman. what the fuck.
all these vids share one common aspect. While nice/good people get erased the *&^%^ stays on this planet and just grow in bigger quantities of our society every single day. Sad as can be
Paranoid on Heroin? Lol only time you might be Paranoid on heroin is if you are on heroin (i guess) and the cops are behind you and you got more heroin in the car.
This is why I never gossip at work. I don’t relay what others tell me. Savannah would still be alive today if her co worker/s hadn’t told Lee that she was going to report him. That’s on that’s person/s conscious. May Savannah rest in peace.
Who else is gonna absolutely destroy the investigators whenever you get pulled in to the interrogation room for murder thanks to JCS Criminal Psychology videos?
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M A2021-12-20 07:46:42 (edited 2021-12-20 07:47:47 )
1. Wtf, Don’t murder anyone 2. “ I want to talk to my lawyer” is all you need to say. Don’t do anything else.
I see a lot of people trashing the female detective but from what I watched, it seemed like she was the catalyst to getting the confession. She seemed to know what would work and appealing to his emotions did start the moment where he went from denial to silence and finally, confession.
@Jim South We actually are, and I'm willing to somewhat agree on that. But it's not a good idea to always depend on it. You shouldn't see body language as signs of 'deceit' but rather signs of 'anxiety' or 'stress'.
Because the person could simply be anxious about the interrogation, and if you interpret their signs of stress as immediate signs of 'deceit'. You won't uncover the actual truth.
@Monitice exactly. People see crossing your arms or looking nervous as a sign of guilt. It could actually mean anything depending on the person and what they have been through.
@K Kk Yeah... no. I'm willing to bet if someone took the entire video, and changed the context on how it's presented. And some bs like "this is how awful false confessions can be to people.". You'd be one of the folk to jump the gun and think the guy was coerced into a false confession.
It's not actually 'super' obvious, here. You're just pushed into believing it because you already have the answer at the start, which gives you bias already.
it sounded more like he finnaly saw the mistake he made or tthat the drugs he took made him unable to control his anger i dont know im no expert but he was showing remorse
@Sawra Dawood Considering he calls himself a piece of shit and says sorry directly to Savannah i think he does feel remorse. or maybe I just want to think that because I always try to see the good in people. But that is something only Lee knows himself
@Royalgamer7 nah he’s scared of going to jail and is really only sorry he killed her cus he ruined his own life over something probably petty like an argument
@Bryan people can change i know that first hand. Im not saying he shouldn't be punished and I also don't say that I know he thinks that way now. I'm just saying you are not him so you don't know what he thinks/thought. And as long as we can't prove either you shouldn't take it as definitely true or false. But I CHOOSE for MYSELF to believe in the good. You can think otherwise. You can call me stupid for that but unless you show me prove you can't tell me you are right and i am wrong
@Royalgamer7 Did you even see the video? My guy just spent the last 40 mins or so making up lies being real cool about it and only started breaking down after the confession was out. Honestly if i was in his shoes and i snapped somebody's neck that shit would haunt me day and night.
"He only cared about not getting caught". That shit's getting old. If it's a case like Jeffrey Dahmer's of course, he didn't feel a thing. But that's different.
Somebody convicted of murder is not the same as a serial killer. There are people who genuinely feel remorse and change their lives for the better, pursue a religious lifestyle even in prison (I know it's rare) etc.
You really seem to be unable to comprehend the complexity between human emotions-actions. Literally undsr every comment section there's a comment of someone like you, who only sees the world in black and white.
@Kostas Edison he literally only cares that he got caught. That's the whole reason he killed her. He doesn't give a crap about her, and she was threatening to have him fired and stuff.
@Royalgamer7 as much as I would like to agree with you, everyone might start good but they end up bad, also remember he knows he is being recorded, I'm sure he thought about it, so he can be more human to people aka jury.
self defense... fucking lawyers are really slick... they are supposed to defend on the best interest of the client client, sure. But it's supposed to be based on the truth. But no... they review the evidence and just look for the one sliver of an angle that could cut the mustard on the slightest reasonable doubt and just go with that. Just look at him! That girl was slamming the car door in order to try and kill him? Is that the argument? It's just absurd!
the conviction that the female detective spoke about her daughter really hit home. the balance of calm and emotional aggression between these two detectives is really great. they keep switching off on the roles.
Is it just me who gets second hand embarrassment when these suspects get caught in a lie? It makes me cringe because these detectives already know the truth and they’re just waiting on you to confess 😬😂
Around 30:15, I wonder if the detective is begging and pleading, saying “I know you’re not evil” to possibly trigger the suspect by reminding him of the victim’s pleas before he killed her. If she was, it’s pretty brilliant. Bring him back to that moment where he took another human being’s life, bringing his guilt and emotions to a peak where he may just break down and confess.
She was playing a role and appealing to him as a woman. She and the other officer decided on their tactics beforehand. I'm sure she's actually tough af.
By pleading to Lee she gave him power and the begging him was very cringe and seemed like a complete act. I'd just get annoyed at it and close up then ask for a lawyer.
@H R lol it wasn't because of the begging. Suspect clearly knew he was cornered with the statement he provided and the reveal that they have actual evidence of the lady not leaving her car
@V A She wasn't being hysterical. She was very aware of what she was doing, she was in control and it would have been well practiced between the both interrogators.
@Mr. Bubbles that was definitely a big part of it, but interrogation and getting a confession are more complicated than that. Every single thing the interrogators consciously do is to improve the chances that they get a confession. That’s why this interview wasn’t just a few minutes of “we have proof” and him confessing. It was like a half hour of them raising their chances of him confessing, and one of the tactics they chose was the lady interrogator begging and pleading.
@H R That is a brilliant analysis. Wow, if these detectives had planned to use this tactic to induce a PTSD flashback, that's hardcore.
The scary thing is that big corporations use the same types of psychological to get consumers to buy their products. And it's so subtle and powerful, people don't realize they are being manipulated, but it works.
@H R luckily the male detective was there to set the tone, ask the hard hitting questions, and maintain the serious nature of the conversation. Your female hero might as well have started stripping int he corner and you'd applaud her for her interrogation prowess.
@JT That’s a very mature take, not closed minded at all, It’s funny the male detective you look at so highly took every cue from the female. She taps his leg and he immediately stops talking so she can jump in. Again, unless you’re an expert in interrogation, don’t criticize someone who is. She sat there patiently saying pretty much nothing for 25 minutes until it was time to give the evidence and play the radical role to push him over the edge.
It's great how so many people found her to be oh so "irritating", but don't consider exactly that to be the purpose of her act?! "She's so emotional and unprofessional" - well, that's the point! She's so good at what she does, that she makes even us viewers do anything to shut her up. How much emotional distress and anger, do you think, this will cause in a murderer under investigation?? He probably had a very similar emotional response to her than he did to his victim back when she got him all riled up with her "stupid" emotions and her pleas for her life... 🤷
@reddancingshoes isn’t it sad how fast people draw conclusions without thinking about it from more than one perspective? Especially as an American, I feel like I’m constantly surrounded by people who have zero ability to think critically.
@tim trim because in case it wasn’t obvious, this guy clearly knows a hell of a lot about the justice system, psychology, and police interrogations.. totally not like his whole channel revolves around analysing interrogations from some of the worst crimes in modern history
She's not a good interrogater at all. Let her emotions get in the way of the interigation. U can tell the male officer was trying to reel the it back in every she cried or begged the guy "please" tell me where she is.
Exactly. It was at that point that I came to the chat. I needed to know if anyone else was as annoyed as I was with her "interrogation tactic." It was hard to watch and listen to. Especially when she kept sounding like she was going to cry...ugh...too much!
@rosaaa putony She was being hysterical on purpose, she already knew he killed him, she's literally a professional for gods sakes. I feel like this is very thinly veiled sexism.
I thought it was a pretty smart move. The more empathy and emotion you express I think is better because sometimes it can trick people into a false sense of security not to mention some people cry when they see others cry. I can't stand to look at somebody when they're upset because I get upset right with them.
I thought she did a wonderful job at making the emotions very heightened to the point that Lee felt panicked, but I guess if you wanna be misogynistic.....
You guys are all proving an important point! Co[s are trained to use their strengths, but they are also trained to use other peoples expectations. I guarantee she was taught to use the feminine emotional, I'm a mother with a daughter her age tactic to gain sympathy. These two played him like a fiddle and it worked. I bet she doesn't have a daughter and I bet even she does they are not the same age. In most situation, cops are legally allowed to lie. They can't make promises or threats and they cannot use coercion, not legally anyways, but in most situations they can lie including story telling about their fake daughter and how they are so heartbroken to think this might have been her daughter. The fact that so many of you have accepted her as a hysterical, emotional woman is exactly why she tried and got him to talk. What's more likely, a homicide detective that is just allowed to break down in interviews and get emotional, which would be chaotic and completely unprofessional, or a trained professional that was taught to use calculated feminine emotional pleas just at the right moment to encourage their suspect to talk? She is why you don't talk to cops, because they are trained to extract info and pick apart your lies
@Cali Charron exactly. They are trained to show humanity every bit as much as they are to bully or lie. It just depends on the tactic they decide on and we heard the moderator describe that they were working him on many occasions
@Karen Hendricks oh now we got a woman who brings other woman down just because she is doing her job, at least she made him confess, not like you who criticizing shit like it is your job
All these experts on getting confessions in the comments section really do be knowing what they talked about. Totally not like she brought him into admitting he brought Savannah to his house.
@slovní curling actually, she is an extremely good detective and all of the emotional input was calculated and rehearsed. The sexism on here is amazing
@Karen Hendricks you’re calling her out for being an “embarrassment to women” even though she got the job done, while there is a man who murdered a girl across the desk from her? How do you not see the double standard?
@tim trim lol you really think she's terrible? Did you not listen and watch, the detectives obvious know what they are doing, that is why the women doesn't speak to him for half the interrogation and then all of a sudden sparks an emotion. It's pretty much known, if you want to manipulate people's behavior, you got to target their emotions. By her pleading for him to tell her where Savannah is as well as being emotional about her daughter, she trying to get Lee to feel empathy or at least remorseful and guilt which will lead to him breaking his lying
@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? it’s common knowledge that, in almost everything, criticizing an expert on a topic something you’re not an expert in is just irresponsible. Look up “Dunning-Kruger Effect.”
In general, if an expert is doing something, it’s for a reason. They have experience in the field, and they have learned what works and what doesn’t. When they started, they probably had the same opinion as you, but as they learned what worked and what didn’t work, they changed their opinion. For instance, I’ve been in the roofing industry for 5 years and I see a lot of people nailing high. Of course if the nail is higher, it has less chance of wind-driven rain reaching it. But a higher nail misses the shingle below the shingle you’re nailing in, it give the wind more leverage on the shingle making it susceptible to wind damage, and it makes blow-through more likely. It’s wrong by every measure and can void your roof warranty and get your roof denied for damage even if a hurricane came through. You can apply the same logic to literally anything whether it be flipping burgers, flipping houses, starting a business, raising a kid, or interrogating a murderer.
@SpaceshipButterfly i didn't think personally that she was being unprofessional. at all... i recognized it as a tactic, just i thought it would be ineffective.
Scott Velez2021-05-29 22:01:20 (edited 2021-05-29 22:04:56 )
@papalusho what do you think police interrogations are supposed to look like? Law and Order SVU? Bad Boys? Criminal Minds? I got news for you, this is not a TV show. That detective isn't there to entertain you or whatever you think she's there for.
Consider that the “hysteric” part was planned. The whole job of these people is to get information out of HUMANS. Humans appeal to emotions. Emotions can get information out of people, or at the least, raise the tension.
@ornella sapam it’s called appealing to someone’s humanity, I know it’s hard because you don’t function with empathy like regular people but try and keep up buddy 😬
People loosely post this comment, it’s idiotic, he’s sorry that he put himself in this situation probably thinking about where he could be if he didn’t make that decision. He most likely regrets everything that lead up to that exact moment to him sitting in the room looking at a murder charge.
He is sorry he killed her. Pay attention to the self talk at the end. He realizes he had other options to try to get her to change her mind, and he's mad at himself for not pursuing those options. Yes he's sorry he got caught, but he's also sorry he killed her and put himself in that situation. Not all murderers are monsters. It's dangerous to believe they are.
@Ganz Bestimmt Okay, corrected: No decent human being sees homicide as an option in almost every circumstance except where their or their family/friends lives are in immediate danger. If your hookup girl is blabbing her mouth and about to make you lose your job because you chose to get in a relationship with your employee, homicide as an option doesn't seem to strike my mind
Jimmy M True, he also knows they’re listening though & it can help his case in court that he’s remorseful 😂 but yeah I agree, he regrets the whole process in my opinion including killing her
@Pastel You have a very innocent peception of whats "human". Humans have killed each other for all of their existence, whatever the reason may be behind it. If you really beleive its never an option to kill, you are very niieve.
@Danielle Byers So you didn't see him talking to himself alone in the room, completely without filter? I do believe he was sorry he did it AND sorry he got caught.
The hysterics from the female investigator are perfect here!!! To a guy like this, she’s sounding like nails on a chalkboard and he won’t last long if she keeps it up!
MDarina - I wonder if we watched the same interrogation. People acting like she was hysterical and screaming the whole time. She only got emotional in brief moments, but for the most part she was very composed and cornered him based on evidence. Seems like you guys are bringing resentment of other women into the discussion and taking it out on the detective. Remember, she watched Rotarde kill Savannah on camera, and she has a daughter her age. It’s natural that this murder resonated with her emotionally
@Dante Good Who said anything about resentment? I said "It kinda made me wanna watch her other movies" and I added that as a woman it affected me the same way as the previous poster who asked, where did you see resentment? And no one said or implied she was "hysterical and screaming the whole time". You seem to be the one having problems here, not the rest of us (I say "us" because your reply is obviously not just to me). Btw, I wouldn't be so quick to assume that she has a daughter that age or at all, detectives say anything in interrogations, it's a role.
Dante Goodman I think you misunderstood. I wasn’t coming down on women for our emotions but was making a point that, for a man like Lee Rodarte, who actually committed murder in order to quiet someone, the tactic of the female investigator-exaggerated emotion- was well served. We already know that female emotion is one of his triggers so, whether hers was genuine or purposeful, it did contribute to finally pushing him beyond the brink- to confession.
Dante Goodman Also, you’re maybe assuming, perhaps because she’s a woman, that she’s unable to leave her emotions at the door, before coming into work. Have you considered the possibility her behaviors/actions here may have been scripted improv?
Aja that's a really good point. In sure a lot of them are thinking they can make up some story to the police thinking they can outsmart them. Then they find out differently lol
We can see that the killing was not planned. So, most likely that it happened on a whim or accidental. The killer may never had thought that he's gonna kill someone.
My understanding of the situation (based on his profile from the information in the video) is that he probably acted out of impulse/fear at the possibility of being fired for fraternising with the staff of the restaurant (the girl perhaps threatened to disclose their relationship to upper management). Clearly, a mentally stable man would never murder a woman and burn her corpse for this but behavioural issues combined with drug abuse further impaired his rational thinking. In the end where he breaks down for being coerced into confessing, he says things like "it's the last time you're gonna wear this chef uniform" and "man you were going places...", implying that maybe he struggled with having a steady job/income in the past and the threat of having that taken away from him made him snap.
It’s normally a rash decision in the moment. They let their anger get the better of them and ruin multiple lives forever. Nevertheless they normally have personality disorders like narcissism
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I am Connected2021-12-17 09:56:13 (edited 2021-12-17 10:02:07 )
@Aja no they don’t, it’s normally a rash decision in the heat of the moment. They’re still normally narcopaths, but most of the people JCS covers and most people in general don’t premeditate the murder
They often have serious mind issues and don’t possess the ability to think rationally about consequences. Murder is a lot of times a spur of the moment thing. I sometimes feel bad for these people when they get to the interrogation room and actually face the reality of what just happened. They have basically thrown their whole life away and couldn’t see before that this would happen due to their issues.
Short sighted, I guess. In the moment, the ramifications of losing his job outweighed the probability of getting caught...Or, she was pregnant, and he wanted to continue hooking up with random college chicks...
@Brent Farvors I don't think they ever argued it was a legitimate motive, rather that it probably made sense considering the individual's priorities (as far as one can understand from just this video)
@Kindbones ^^. i also htink that was his biggest mistake...second one was to text the parents and so on....he just had to leave her alone and all of this shit wouzld not happen
I’m sorry but I’ve seen many of these and that chick has got to be worst interviewer ever…. I’m not saying it’s cause she’s a chick but god damn… no tactics at all, just whining. Bro.
@Kanye Breast that’s right! Haha I’m sorry. I completely forgot about that. Technically they are animals just like humans but they are basically at the bottom of the food chain.
I love how now when I watch interrogation videos I will think “Dossier Technique”, “Ego up”, “Narrative technique”, How and Why Solution” and ALL the other terms I’ve learned from watching your videos! Thank you so much😊❤️
Kyle Spratt yeah I’m pretty sure it’s done on purpose. From personal experience, they waited till seconds was at 00 to start, so I just think it’s procedure to do that.
Initially I thought I was a tactical mistake to bring that female detective in the room. The fact that LR's mother was addicted to meth while he was a child as well as the mention of his success with the opposite sex made me predict that her emotional way of pleading/reasoning with LR was going to not work very well. I felt he would be well prepared to dismiss her emotional engagement. Although I can't say how effective her strategy was on its own, it clearly wasn't a hindrance. It did not make him withdraw as I thought it would. In the end, his confession to murdering Savannah Gold was from a job well done from both of those detectives. Hearing LR enter a plea of not guilty makes me so thankful that interrogators like this work so hard so scumbags like him can't avoid their comeuppances. Thoughts and prayers to the Gold family.
I agree with what you first said i thought the way she was getting emotional to him was going to make it to soft and he doesn't seem to have a soft side... It didn't seem professional but aw well
It’s very interesting to see all these guys reactions to a woman being present during an interrogation...some men shut down and refuse to talk around a woman figure and some almost seem to lean towards a female detective...very bizarre
@KREEDofSPADES yes but it was they she went full on pleading was a bit much to start i wasn't sure of but then she must have known that was the right card to play with him
Carolyn Devins i don’t know but I would assume female detectives if not trained too,will willingly cry and create an emotional connection w the victim or their family,that’s just smart thinking IMO
Carolyn Devins - Gotta love the hubris of message board fools, who have convinced themselves they know more than seasoned professionals with high level education and training backing them. Who are you to question her tactics (actually the tactics of the whole team since this was all designed)? Especially when her tactics worked?
@Dante Good well actually we where agreeing but in another video investigation one male detective was actually going to balls up the confection with his in put and the narrator pointed that out so not every police is perfect at there job 😝
Carolyn Devins yes I’ve seen that happen before and they’ll actually take the woman out and replace her with another man,idk why or how they decide when the time is for that but hopefully one day 🤞🏽
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Charlie Brown2021-02-20 15:14:42 (edited 2021-02-20 15:15:05 )
The cop getting emotional was very disconcerting. When imagining an interrogation you’d expect some aggression and lots of questions but a perpetrator isn’t going to see that display of emotion coming. That combined with the juxtaposition between the very different demeanors of the two cops probably made him more unsettled. Good tactic, and it worked.
i didn't like her ways..guy was doing fine on his own with her on the side applying pressure sometimes but i guess the emotion swap startled his adderalled ass
I mean, it sounds like he wasn't really thinking of anything. His impulse control is awful, and clearly he acts in self preservation (hiding the body, lying, pleading innocent), but he doesn't seem evil in the sense that he really desired to hurt someone.
The cut from the tape that showed him just about to confess to the details of her horrific murder was bone chilling. It sucked to see a human in pain like he was but I feel no sympathy considering how she must have felt more fear and pain at his hands.
To me, in these circumstances it doesn’t suck at all to see a human in pain like this. I only feel a slight satisfaction seeing this violent murderer in pain like this, and also a remaining feeling of injustice since no other punishment than ‘an eye for an eye’ would feel like true justice to me in this case.
It is surprisingly distressing to see a guy repeating "I don't know" about a person he murdered, the same way i remember repeating "I don't know" about who broke X when i was a child, and remembering how it felt.
@milk testing woman That's actually a sign of relatively high emotional intelligence. The fact that he can accurately distinguish exactly what is going on inside a murderer's head and what emotions he's feeling by using a simple run of the mill average childhood experience.
I get exactly what you're saying bro. its a sort of mental and emotional desperation where you know you're wrong and have nothing else to really say, but you're afraid of both being known as a liar AND committing whatever action you did.
but its also sort of reassuring to know that I'll never be in a situation like THIS GUY
from what he described of his background, holding a steady job requiring any level of skill was probably a huge success. unfortunately, he still kept one foot in the old life
@Kryptonite i mean if Bonefish Grill is a place where scabby junkies speedballing meth and heroin are murdering each other, rising to the level of Manager must be on par with being a Made Man in the Mafia
AV 572021-05-30 17:17:50 (edited 2021-05-30 17:18:24 )
It’s not glamorous, but it’s honest hard work. It’s kind of sad how many people think they’re too special for a career like that. It’s probably why we have millions of people who sit on their fat asses living off the government and purchasing nothing but slave labor goods, rather than work more than 40 hours a week at a thankless profession.
Green is the color I associate with the movies more. Like hobbiton and the cloaks they all wear. You could argue white, but I only associate that with the end of Return of the king. The only time blue stands out to me is at the battle of helms deep. So if his anchor to the films is that part, I guess I understand where he's coming from
After watching too many of these interrogation videos, this is how I intend to have any conversation with a detective, no matter what’s happening: Me: “I won’t speak to you without a lawyer present.” Cop: “We’re just gathering some info from you to determine what happened! We’re not even charging you with anything.” Me: “Just to be safe, I want a lawyer before we sit down to talk.” Cop: “You only have a right to an attorney if you’re under arrest. Shall we arrest you?” Me: “Wait — if I’m not under arrest, does that mean I’m free to leave?” Cop: “Actually, we just really need you to answer some questions first.” Me: “Am I being detained, or am I free to leave?” Cop: “Oh. ummm yeah i guess you’re free to leave.” Me: exits immediately
@Shoshanna he literally answered all the questions of 2 detectives with "yes" "no" "I don't know", with a straight face and creepy manner for 3 hours. No confession at the end!! So, the tactic worked in his favour.
Lee Rodarte Jr., 31, received his sentence on Thursday (March 11 2021), nearly three years after he was charged with killing Gold, with whom he worked at a Bonefish Grill in Mandarin, Action News Jax reports. Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors in February and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.
All I am saying is that it's important to understand someone can change on the inside, therefore I don't want to wish upon them eternity in jail. I'm not insinuating that people should not go to jail and pay the price. But I'm a christian so my outlook on this may be very different from y'all's :)
@cool guy 27 did you know that petty theft with a prior used to be a felony in California? Get caught stealing a pack of gum in two separate events would be a felony. Death you say?
I’ve watched a few interrogations, and I’ve never seen an approach like the one the female detective used, it’s extremely interesting actually. You can see him get uncomfortable almost immediately!
It’s hard to feel sorry for him because he doesn’t feel sorry for killing a woman, he only feels sorry for himself. He’s got enough pity for himself, he doesn’t need any of mine.
@Moses The Prophet according to him he grabbed her neck and heard it pop so it wouldn't seem like he was trying to kill her; but we only have one side of "what happened." He does seem to have regret but it's more so that his life is over and as he brought up his mom he isn't the first failure in his family from his point of view and was trying to do better than other family members. Which is exactly why i want the rest of the confession. What we've seen so far only tries to show empathy but if so why did he lie and cremate her? I myself think it's because before he killed her he beat her to a state of near death
Riley Cyrus lets be honest, if I fought with my GF or wife and that happened, you would call the cops straight away and explain it was a freak event. You’d also be vaguely hopeful they could resuscitate her. People call ambulances for people who are stone cold dead and obviously so. The initial reaction is disbelief. He clearly did something wrong - may not have intended to kill her but he definitely knew it wasn’t an accident
@Moses The Prophet You don't know the context in his mind, "fucking savanna" could be just a plea of desperation in his irate state of mind, In tears after uttering those words he says "I'm so sorry savanna". And afterwards he even says to himself "Savannah was nice to you".
It was a murder of passion, in the moment of the murder he became irate, lost control of himself, afterwards he panicked and tried to save himself. He obviously feels guilt and frustration about his own actions, guilt towards Savannah and frustration that he threw his life away. The whole self defense motive he has now adapted is probably under coaching of his lawyer.
All in all its a damn shame probably 2 people lose their lives over a conflict that was probably trivial at it's core, but that is how most murders go.
@Riley Cyrus also if you rewatch the whole interrogation for each question he was actually just building up the story to why he killed her people who feel guilty typically do this
@lopendepaddo I disagree, I don't think he was sorry just sorry he got caught. After his "fucking Savannah" he thinks about him being on camera and the sorry to Savannah was all just an act. He has no remorse.
@Primethread Yup, there's no trick to it, just shut up and ask for a lawyer. Anything else is shooting yourself in the foot, whether you're innocent or guilty.
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There’s a video on this channel where a cop/investigator of over 20 years is suspect of a murder, and during questioning even she acted a fool. The narrator makes a point to say that even if you know all the “tricks”, you likely won’t become some mind-judo jedi during an interrogation. Turns out, almost everyone sucks at lying one way or another. So yeah, best thing is to shut up and lawyer up, if you try to defend yourself then it’s potentially bad for you. Even if you are truly innocent, say little and get an attorney.
“How long did you know her?” Lee: "The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
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@Bigboikilljoy no i obviously typed it all out by hand by sitting and listening to it second by second and even in a perfect recreation of the video even tho im not a native english speaker and it took me 69 hours to complete the comment, please like and subscribe and comment and hit the bell and report and delete this and have a good day
@Bigboikilljoy If the joke is that the dude is being evasive, providing an absurdly technical description of something unrelated. The content of what was copied doesn’t matter, the point is that it’s excessive in its detail. It’s not like copying someone else’s comment. Don’t be a dingleberry
You mentioned that the segment of him sobbing at the end can be sometimes hard to watch, but thinking of what happened to savannah and watching his whole life fall apart made me glad to watch him sob
@Ana Uribe He definitely is somewhat sad for taking her life. As you can see he definitely feels remorse. "I'm so sorry Savannah" and "Savannah was a nice girl" are lines where you can notice that he does actually feel bad for taking her life. Also the way he talks and sounds during the interrogation can kind of show that he was at least somewhat troubled because of what he did ( or maybe not, that's just how I feel about it ). And the fact that he was sentenced for second-degree murder, meaning an unplanned, intentional killing (reacting in the heat of the moment when angry), which was most probably, I would say definitely, what happened there. Maybe it's because I am a big empath, but I can see that his usual self wouldn't ever think of killing, but he got angry and acted like an idiot. He got what he deserved, I think he should've gotten more years in jail ( he got 40 ), but I wouldn't say he is a cold-blooded murderer or that he feels no remorse. I hope I don't sound like I'm defending him.
@lopark I totally agree with you, also, even if it was an accident, he should have gone to the authorities straight away instead of disposing her body in such a gruesome manner and face the consequences.
@Azzara7 He should've gone to the authorities, but he knew he murdered a person and he wanted to try and at least save himself ( even if you have morals, when you're in a situation where your life is threatened, unless you are suicidal, your first instinct is to do anything that will save your life ). I assume that he wanted to try and burn the body completely to ashes but he didn't know that he can't do that quickly so he disposed of it in a lake instead. Both of these ways of killing are ways with which you can destroy evidence, and that's probably what he wanted to do. If his intention was to dispose of her in a gruesome way he definitely wouldn't do it in these ways. You can see panic in everything he did - he did an awful, disgusting thing, realized he dug his own grave but still had hope that he can get himself out of it and failed.
That's actually brilliant, I caught it, and I'm going to use it when I'm being lied to.
Person lies. You ask them if they are being honest about the lie, they answer yes. Then, you switch the question, making it seem like he misunderstood it's intent, while acting as if he answered it the second way when he answered it the first way, by saying ok, so let's be honest, blah blah blah.
@Pataganja she asked him if he's being honest. And she intentionally makes it sound like she's asking if he has been being honest. So he answers yes, stating that he has been being honest.
But, she then switches how she meant it, and takes his yes as meaning he is now claiming he's going to be honest now, ignoring the past tense implication he answered to.
He thought he was affirming his story with a yes. She basically asked him if he's ready NOW to start being honest, making his previous statements seem like lies to her, which he stated yes to, thus affirming without intending, to implicate he was lying.
Mesmerizing like the globetrotters styling on some white guy.
This is how it is, just by observation. First off, we start existence with two things...something, and nothing. So, 1 and 0.
The Greeks i believe defined zero as a number, as it was hard to do, even though it was used, it needed empirical law, and value...a true conundrum. When they did, they explained also the beginning and existence imo.
The zero (nothing) has no value until it is an effect on a number (something) while simultaneously being the basis for every number. This number paradox, is also reality's. Reality is an always-paradox. In order for something to ever exist, it needs the contrast of nothing, however there is no nothing, until it is created by the effect of something, which needs nothing to be. Its our polar Reality.
What is matter? There isn't an answer, but consider mine, and stay abstract.
Matter isn't moving (although it always is at some scale), no, matter IS movement.
So the actual big bang of this always-paradox, is 0 ÷ 1. The movement is a division, and matter is that movement.
Matter is the separation of something and nothing. It so far is treated as a linear expansion, but in fact it is a polar-expansion. There is polar-volume, infinite inside of everything, at every point. The smaller you go, the faster things are. More on that later.
So this expansion (division of something and nothing, called movement, which is matter) was in all directions, at all points, but also an *inspansion everywhere at all points. This straight line direction of movement will and does conglomerate, but would quickly lead to stasis, so this ex/in-spansion began to curve where it connected, and at all points and all directions this curving to avoid conglomeration led to spin, which leads to sphering, and thusseparation of these movement into units of spheres. This is our physical reality, sphering movements.
The straight line direction of expansion is the electro magnetic force, gravity is this same force curving into a sphere. Gravity is the opposite of expansion, the opposite of movement, however in a reality where all things (movement) refuse to touch, so therefore gravity becomes a capacity of movement, like a battery or coil. This is why more mass, the more potential energy, and the more energy needed to get the curve of gravity straight again.
This expansion therefore expands radially at all points, in and out, repeating pi at all points, with the .14... being the 'great mover' of Aristotle's vision, and the ratios of chemistry and electron coupling creating the intricacies of matter, from the atomic up to the molecular up to us, and down and in.
If you could get an observation in atomic orbit, you would first have to be tiny, and move very fast, but once its speed and size and acceleration is relative to it's environment, so is its observable time. However if this experiment were performed in a lab, with the atomic probe carrying a clock, it would experience relative time, but much much more time would pass on the probes clock, then the labs clock. Both times would be relative to each observer, but more time would pass at the atomic level in the same time of the labs level.
So....and theres more to say that completes this theory, there very well could be a way to have these worlds and events. It could be advanced life in one of the infinite scales of this movement able to travel in and out. It might not even be technology, because matter might be life as well. Something with intent.
There is a divide in Matter, and it quantifies the metaphysical. Puts it right into physics, and thats amazing.
Its this: Life can be defined as "matter with intent". Thus, intent can be quantified, as we have matter with, and matter without, intent.
Consequently, matter with intent is made of matter with no intent. This observation can easily close this separation of the two matters. 'It all' could be a form of life.
What's crazy to me is how he admits to taking a schedule II without a prescription and the interrogators don't care. If Lee was smart (obviously not), he would've immediately known that the interrogators knew he killed Savannah because they aren't interested in busting him for a misdemeanor.
i just googled it, it also involved a car. sounds like drugs were involved as well. although i don't know how much i believe him about the hard drugs she was doing.
Alex Ruland: I was just carrying on with the joke at hand. But yes, I do share a last name with a famous author as do several million other people with many famous authors. I was being facetious. I’ve been working on my novel for over 30 years now and should be done soon and then I’ll reveal my name, lol. Stay tuned!
I love how the narrator explains the psychological components to the interview. It makes it even more interesting.
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Best part of this channel! Also the voice goes so well 👌
594 likesYessss I only watch it because of that
226 likesSome people can’t narrate. But this voice is perfect.
369 likesI wouldn't be interested if that wasn't in the videos.
226 likesImportant to note that the creator writes the script, the narrator just lends his voice for this channel
193 likesI mean, that's kind of the whole point lmao
200 likesI’ve talked to Kizzume a few times in the past, pretty decent person.
15 likesCriminal Psychology. That’s the channel lol. But yes, that’s the best part
97 likesBrandon yes I know and there is only 12 videos
1 likeThat’s the entire point of this Chanel
55 likesMe too!!! One of the reasons i subscribed and keep watching!
3 likesThat’s why I love this channel!
3 likesthat’s literally the entire point of this channel, hence, psychology in the channel name... lmfao
38 likesthats the point of these videos but yes
18 likesThat's the point of the channel isn't it? Otherwise it would be just us watching an interrogation. Him explaining and psychoanalyzing the interrogation allows us to learn and understanding how the human brain. Mind, and psyche works when a guilty person is being interrogated. Another funny thing is how come so many criminals decide to talk to the detective and ALMOST NEVER ASK FOR A LAWYER? It's like they think try and NOT GET A LAWYER AND TALK ALONE JUST TO SEE HOW MUCH THE COP KNOWS ABOUT THE CASE BUT IT ALWAYS BACKFIRES LMAO
13 likesBomani Erasto How come so many criminals decide to talk to the detective and ALMOST NEVER ASK FOR A LAWYER? It's like they think try and NOT GET A LAWYER AND TALK ALONE JUST TO SEE HOW MUCH THE COP KNOWS ABOUT THE CASE BUT IT ALWAYS BACKFIRES LMAO
7 likesHe is so intelligent know almost everything makes me jealous 😅
1 likeIts not called "Criminal Psychology" for nothing
11 likesThis is why this is one of the best channels out there for true crime. You get the understand the psyche of some of these people. This case was heartbreaking. This man had issues prior to him killing this poor girl.
7 likes@Anonym they both do an amazing job I think. Very watchable 👏
1 likeone of my fav things is when it’s like
3 likesOPTIMISM? ALL GONE
HOPE? OBLITERATED
That’s the entire point of the video genius...
5 likesHonestly, the most entertaining part for me is the narration.
1 likeim 5000% sure kizzume makes it better
0 likesDefinitely
0 likesThat's uh... the point?
3 likesAnd for me of this guy not knowing that he's digging himself a major hole by talking too much!
1 likeOmg I found this channel now I can’t stop watching this
3 likesIt’s almost like this is a criminal psychology channel !!
7 likesWelcome to JCS
3 likesI agree 💯🥰
0 likesI mean ist that the point of this channel. To explain the psychological components?
3 likesRight?! It’s almost like that’s the entire point of this channels existence?!?!? 😐
4 likesThank you for pointing out the reason for this channel I could of never of taught of this
3 likesThis channel is amazing
0 likesLearn from it tho. Use it against others. Psychology is an interesting subject. We humans are really sum.
1 likeThat’s why I love it
0 likes@Anonym interesting. I didnt know this! Just assumed it was his channel and voice
2 likesSyntechi Gaming I also assumed that at first, but on one of his videos I got curious and thought like "wait a minute, I recognize this voice.." so I read the description and the creator has linked the narrator.
0 likesThis channel wouldn't make sense otherwise. There's plenty of interrogation channels but only two or three that I know of that explain stuff in detail as you go.
1 likeJust fascinating how people react when they're in a corner.
0 likesI like the narrator's voice as well, though his voice doesn't match his face lol.
0 likes@Jason Me Sure, I guess JCS analysis could be defined as "opinion", but for reference, the definition of opinion that applies is:
0 likesA judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert.
Kizzume (the narrator) has a riveting voice! I hope to hear much more of him in the future. P
0 likesyeah like that's the whole point of this channel lol
1 likeYeah that’s sort of why we’re all here dude....
0 likesPOINTeighteen I know, right? The penny has juuuusssstttt dropped. The comments section always provides so much enlightenment!
0 likes@crazyanimeloveable His voice reminds me of DarkMatter2525's. It's awesome! :D
0 likesSame, and he does it without ruining the entire video. There are so many vids I've started to watch and ended up turning them off bc the narrator talked over everything.
0 likesYesssssssss
0 likesLike a magician
0 likesThanks Brandon
0 likesWhat do you mean that’s the main thing
0 likesUhhh that’s. kind of the point of the channel. Do you go to a restaurant and say “I like that someone cooks the food for me. It makes the experience more enjoyable?”
0 likesHaha that is the fucking point of the channel
0 likeswell the channel is called criminal psychology... not criminal interviews
0 likesWelcome to the channel
0 likesDefinitely gives us more insight into the psycology of a crime
0 likesI agree like when it explained how innocent people would usually react
0 likes@Syntechi Gaming Everybody who works on these videos is always linked in the description - you should check them out (;
0 likes* watches a football game *
0 likesI love that they are playing football
@Miss Vanilla yeah the interview ends up becoming the icing on the cake that is the narrator 🤣
0 likesthats the point of the channel
0 likesThat’s what makes these videos interesting, that’s what gets everyone hooked lol
0 likesits so he can prepare us
0 likesWell it is a criminal psychology channel...
0 likes@Kristina Chapman this isn’t even his voice lol, he has someone narrating for him in the desc.
0 likesThat’s the entire point of the channel
0 likesFr, narrator is the best part
0 likesYeah we all like the channel too.
0 likesThat’s why this channel is like crack
0 likesI love how all these cases happened in Florida
0 likesEspecially with the lack of shitty overly-dramatic music that every other channel seems to use
0 likesIt’s also a text/guide book on how to get away with murder….
0 likesno
0 likesThat's like saying I love the history channel, they go in depth about historical events.
0 likes@POINTeighteen lmao..oblivion NPC
0 likesMe too...very much.🤩
0 likesThat’s the whole point of the channel, ffs…
0 likesI like how it sounds like he's swallowed a dictionary whole.
0 likesYaa
0 likes@crazyanimeloveable the voice of JCS is😩😩🥴
0 likesThe narrator is brrrrilliant, what a voice.
0 likesIt’s borderline brilliant
0 likesHe sounds like such a dweeb
0 likesI love how the youtuber "JCS Criminal Psychology" uses his channel to explain the psychology of a criminal.
0 likesThe best part.
0 likes@Ki lo I saw what you saw, but it's NOT TRUE!
0 likesthat's kinda the point
0 likes@Hugh Mungus glad someone said it lol
0 likesNo doubt. There have been so many "JCS inspired" channels popping up, & while some are good they're just not quite hitting the mark when it comes to that aspect.
1 likeHell I I'm pretty certain I already watched this vid when it first came out yet I'm back here watching it again because I'm thirsting for it.
JCS often imitated never duplicated.
If anyone knows of another channel that comes close feel free to name drop it. There have been so many popping up I want to know if I have been sleeping on any.
A couple low key ones I've come across that have done it fairly well is Aurace Crime & LGK.
Unfortunately they only have a few each but they seem promising. I'd encourage any & all to check them out in hopes the numbers\support will encourage them to do more.
For now I'll just have to be satisfied with JCS saying he'll upload more frequently. (Not that he owes us that. He produced many hours of great entertainment & inspired many others to do so as well, and for that reason JCS will forever be a legend in my book. )
@Dan P have you watched all the different interrogation vids on the JCS Patreon? It’s well worth tossing the channel 5 bills or whatever it costs per month and run through all of them. Hell I’m still subscribed despite no new content in a while for the simple fact I like to circle back to specific scum bags in specific interrogations for specific reasons at random times lol. I’m an odd dude to be sure but check it out if you haven’t already.
1 likeEdited to add: the Patreon vids are ones not available on the public YouTube as far as I know.
@Peter Assennato then don’t watch lmao
0 likesthats why he opened up a whole new genre called "JCS inspired"
0 likes@Jon Evans sadly I never thought to check his Patreon. Thanks for suggesting that I'll definitely have to check it out.
1 like@Dan P truthfully only bothered going over to it because someone mentioned some additional JCS content on there and that was more than enough motivation lol. Enjoy bud!
1 likeThe whole reason for the channel lol 🤦♂️
0 likesBuddy, it is Jim Can't Swim we are talking about here...
0 likesSame
0 likesThis is one of the best channel ever !
0 likes@Anonym cudos to them both. Grt Teamwork.
0 likesHappy New Year. 😊
@crazyanimeloveable The beat part for me are the confessions.
0 likes@Miss Vanilla I watch because of the confessions and interrogations, not him pausing the clip to talk...but to each their own.
0 likesI wonder if that's why the channel is called "Criminal Pyschology"?
0 likes@AndrewJackson Common sense would point to YES.👍🏾
0 likesTo Brandon: You don't say.
0 likesThis is a school.
Brandon: I like these descriptive and sometimes speculative soliloquies regarding taking dead history and shining light, bringing them to life, coruscating these and other topics.
0 likes@crazyanimeloveable i
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0 likesÍlll
0 likes@crazyanimeloveable uuuuuuuuuulllulll\uuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllll
0 likes@crazyanimeloveable llllllllllll a bit i
0 likesY uuu?
0 likes@Cassidy Jewel you okay broh 😂
0 likesYeah, well. The narrator has a name.
0 likesme too. So satisfying ..
0 likesYep, great job.
0 likesThey struck gold with that concept.
0 likesthat's the whole point of this channel
0 likesexcept that everything he says is wrong and he has no understanding of criminal law or criminal investigations. He also makes massive leaps of logic when he states psych principals based only off of limited interview footage.
0 likesIt's just not always that the explanations are very convincing. At least to me.
0 likesLiterally the point of the channel dude.
0 likesThat’s the idea yeah
0 likesHe’s not the “narrator”. He created the video lol
0 likeshis voice isn't boring as fuck either, yet still monotoned, but he explains well which keeps you engaged- it's clear he likes what he does
0 likesY’all making fun of Lee don’t realize his strategy. He’s clearly hoping the detectives die from old age by the time he finishes talking.
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i see the potential in his strategy. GO LEE
99 likes😂😂😂
16 likesAah, an intelectual
35 likes@Retaj Alhelal That's Exactly What Gai from Naruto screams in the games
12 likesOmg you’re right!😂😂
7 likesAn interesting play, let's see how it works out.
10 likesHence his “Success” with the “Opposite Sex”.
5 likesDoesn’t he look and seem like the kind of guy you can’t resist?
They love each yarn he spins.
Before seeing the interview I read this and it didn’t make sense to me till I saw the video
9 likes🤣👍
4 likes@Psych ROCK LEEEEEE!!
3 likeskoookkkoo
1 like😂
3 likesIt was the make, model and colour of the car that caught him. I presume that his car is full of her DNA
0 likesPoor guy forgot that he could get a lawyer
2 likesThis is actually how he is as a person. So being interrogated makes him go off a lot worse but he’s genuinely someone who just keeps going on.
0 likesNot making fun of him. His nervousness is making him unable to stop talking, you can feel something totally wrong in the first 2 minutes. I know little about police tactics, but these cops are doing it just right. Thank God.
1 like@L C that’s literally how he is though. He always elaborates more than he needs to in conversations but Ofcourse this would’ve made him talk way more than usual being nervous
0 likeshahaha
0 likesLllllllllll
0 likesV7ccd
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesOkay I just snorted out loud. #sorrynotsorry 🤣🤣🤣
0 likes🤦♀️😆😂😂😂😭
1 like@Retaj Alhelal ĺĺ
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂
1 like🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪
1 likeit's quite genius, you guys just don't get it! He's being practicing for years with his imaginary friends
1 likeAh, the ole Arabian Nights technique...
1 likeI think the adderall probably had something to do with his chattyness too lol
0 likespog strat let’s go
0 likesHe’s filibustering the interview
1 likeThe grandfather technique
1 likeExcellent point
0 likesLmao
0 likesThat’s some amazing tactics,what a clever man he is!
2 likes😭😭
1 likeAbsolutely LOVE this comment! First prize for the Best Comment on a YouTube Video Award!
1 likeThat was a good one made me laugh
2 likeswhat is a "y'all" ?
0 likesAdderall does that.
0 likesLMFAO!!!!
0 likesIt’s the adderall 😂
0 likes"HERO-in" Get it? :')
0 likes"I'm gonna die while in jail." Thats a whole lot better than dying while being beat to death, being striped of the opportunity to say good bye to her loved ones and then being thrown in a fire pit and lake, being discarded as trash. When psychopaths finally cry, it is always for themselves first and never the victim.
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psychopaths don’t cry or feel emotion like that. not every murderer is a psychopath. he made an absolutely horrible and despicable decision to murder her, more than likely a crime of passion. he’s literally explaining to himself why he’s an idiot and questioning why he did it. he’s a piece of shit no doubt, but he’s not a psychopath.
80 likes@Jordan Hughes yeah, people really seem to like to fit their chosen narrative around this story but it doesn't apply here. Tell them that, though, and you'll be accused of defending a murderer. Wish nuance would get back into fashion...
14 likesAll for his job at Bonefish grill
15 likes@Alfo Bootidir There ain’t no meat on them fish anyway. Who wants to eat a fish bone?
2 likesI don't think he meant to kill her at all. He meant to hit her. He meant to hurt her. He is a total piece of shit. But, snapping her neck could HAVE been unintentional. He may have only meant to choke her out while he hit her, snatched her forward and broke her neck. Again, I say bury him under the jail. But, call it 2nd degree murder instead of first. A crime of passion.
2 likes@Bradley J. Fortner idk if he meant to kill her or not but you’re right in that I don’t believe this was premeditated, and therefore isn’t first degree murder.
2 likesIt’s likely a problem that you think you aren’t capable of winding up in a situation like this with a minor tweak of context. Most murders are in-the-moment explosions and many of us carry the potential to lose control. That’s not to defend him. He got 40 years, stop being self righteous and pretending you’re a judge. You’re engaging in YouTube murder voyeurism you’re not some angel and all of us have monsters in us.
6 likes@Jason G I actually agree with you although I think murderers are in for some judgement. It’s just hard to fathom this dude lost everything because something so replaceable; a job at Bonefish Grill in Florida. Have you been to Florida? There’s a grill/restaurant like that every half a mile. The thought, “ok she’s gonna get me fired but I can get another job within the week” isn’t far off. Dummy really essential snapped for nothing. I think 40 years is fair too bc you’re right, I don’t think this crime was premeditated.
1 likeThis comment is excellent
0 likesfalse.
0 likesArguably, Savannah had a better fate. She at least won’t be rotting in jail for decades. Probably shouldn’t have murdered her if he didn’t want to spend the rest of his life in Jail.
1 likeI'd like to see a .357 with one round slid under the door to allow him to complete his prophecy.
0 likesHe’s also seems to be a narcissist.
3 likes@Jordan Hughes I agree.. he is one of those that can actually be rehabilitated after committing a serious crime.. but they all go to the same place anyways.. he didn’t seem like he did other crimes also which also supports my theory of him not being an evil person per say but very stupid.. he must have been so mad when she got in his car that he could not control his rage and emotions.. I’ve been there not with killing someone obviously but being so mad that my judgment was clouded and I was not thinking 5 mins in the future just about that exact moment. Only after you calm down do you realize that your actions are gonna have consequences
2 likes@Bradley J. Fortner you don’t accidentally break someone’s neck, brother. I can whole heartedly guarantee that.
3 likes@Philip Fresco I've never broken someone's neck intentionally or unintentionally but IDK how you can legitimately guarantee something like that. How can you know for a fact It's impossible to accidentally break someone else's neck? It seems like youre just attempting to frame your opinion of this case as the objective truth... basically letting your supposed expertise in the science of breaking necks take the place of legitimate arguments.
0 likesIt just sounds like you wanna be right but you don't want to have to do the actual hard work of determining the truth lol. Sounds about right for YouTube comments.
@TheNickeldude I was ready to listen to you til your ego had to trip and act like your the YouTube saint at the end. Yea bro I can guarantee if you break someone’s kneck while choking them, you had every intention of doing that damage. Do you know how hard it is to break a human kneck? Cause it sounds like you just wanna sound smart for the YouTube comments.
0 likesit was him first, then Savannah, you'd realise.
0 likeshe's a human too, he's not going to cry for the girl the minute after realising he's going to jail for the rest of his life
i don't imply he's a good man, but that part isn't showing inhumanity
Yes. And they always blame everything on the victim. He accuses her of taking drugs etc etc
0 likes@Michael McGee Do you know what "in cold blood" means?
0 likes@Jordan Hughes psychopaths are much more rare than most people think they are, at least a pure psychopath. Psychopaths are usually not the person that shows zero emotion. Psychopaths tend to be more intelligent and use a false emotional response to manipulate the people around them. They study people to determine what kind of emotional display is best to use in a given situation. They may not feel some of these emotions to the same extent "normal" people do, but they understand it. The lack of shared emotional experiences alienates them from potential mates and develops a sense of superiority over others, especially women. This causes them to see women as objects, transactional beings to be exploited. It dehumanizes them and makes him much more willing to hurt or abandon them. When people see someone being defensive and aggressive with others, and their reputation is of violence and rule breaking, they may have psychopathic qualities, but are more sociopathic. Fights, drugs, crime, aggression, alcohol, relationship difficulties tend to be sociopath.
0 likesReserved, calculating, manipulative, secretive, controlling, disgust, anger below the surface, tend to be closer to a psychopath.
Don't worry, if you a reserved and manipulative it doesn't mean you are a psychopath.
Does anyone know what his sentence was I'm assuming life without parole but you never know
0 likes@Ryan Oswald 40 years
0 likesWatching these videos, I have been developing a fool proof method for not being broken down and forced to admit to murder by police investigators:
1483 likesStep 1: Do Not Murder
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I’ll do you one better…
21 likesFollow rules.
How about: Don’t talk to police.
46 likesIt is close to fool proof. But many innocent people have confessed before.
40 likes@Karl Hendrikse Many innocent people have not confessed and still were found guilty. It even happens when there is proof they didn't commit the crime.
42 likesAlternatively: Don't talk to the police investigators.
5 likesAnd don't say anything other than "I want an attorney."
19 likesall things here considered, the method sounds like it is simply just: don't be unlucky
9 likes@saskewoo ^^^THIS^^^
0 likesOh how very true lmao
0 likesHe knows he’s on camera.
0 likesAlso, plead the fifth & remain silent.
2 likesBut criminals are dumb; that's why they commit crimes.
@Just Some Kitten With a Gun yeah its supper sad. Look at what happened with Pam hupp. She murdered her friend 7 days after getting on her will. The husband was convicted because his alibi was too good.
3 likesBut if you do, you better call Saul!
0 likesStep 1: ask for a lawyer whether you're involved or not.
0 likesWords to live by.
0 likesOk, but hypothetically, what if we've already moved on to step 2...what is that? Asking for a friend.
0 likesRight.
0 likesNot really. The amount of false convictions is scary.
2 likesStep 2:???
0 likesStep 3: profit
Step 2; Smoke weed so you dont think bad
0 likesI failed step 1, what do I do now?
0 likesGet into the interrogation room and don't say a word. Meditate. Close your eyes and drown everyone out. If you can't drown them out, immediately say "Lawyer" then shut up
0 likes@RGGNC once again many people have still been convicted despite not cooperating. It’s not a foolproof method
0 likes@RGGNC also people have been held in custody FOR YEARS despite not confessing because they weren’t able to make bail. There’s cases of people who died awaiting trial or eventually killed themselves
0 likesStep 2: say nothing to the police NOTHING
0 likesStep two: if you somehow become a murder suspect who’s wrongly accused don’t say shit and lawyer up
0 likes@Bug Step 1.5: Don't admit to failing step 1.
0 likesDetective: "How long did you know Savannah?"
767 likesLee: "The details of my life are quite inconsequential."
Detective: "Please answer the question."
Lee: "Very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Some times he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy, the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical, summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds, pretty standard really. At the age of 12 I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen, a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum, it's breathtaking, I suggest you try it."
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Now let's bring out Scott's father Dr. Evil
17 likesThis is an underrated comment lmfao
47 likesThis comment should be pinned tbh
20 likessir/maam i bet you have a wattpad account
15 likesLmao I just watched this movie today w/ a friend
3 likesBest comment on this video, hands down! 🤣💀
6 likesYou know, um, we have to stop.
2 likesThis sounds like a Charles bukowski poem
2 likesThe whole speil !
1 likeThis is fantastic! Absolutely hysterical on a very well-read level. I love all of the references! You either majored in History, English Lit., or both. You’re probably of British lineage, if you don’t live on one of the British Isles presently; or, like my dad, you’re a full-blown Anglophile. You love (and are quite
5 likesgood at it yourself) the dry wit of John Cleese. I’d entertain the idea that you may participate in Renaissance Fairs, but that would ruin my image of you in my mind. You’re definitely male, a bit of a perfectionist…I need to give this more thought. I’ve had a smirk (?) on my face since I read this - picture the Mona Lisa “smile.” This is brilliant. I hope you’re a Writer, and are well paid for it!
Lmaoooo, thank you for this
2 likesWtf 🤣🤣
2 likes@Sir Llama III what's the movie?
1 like@Charlotte Stockham Sorry to burst your bubble, but seems the quote is from a movie. Although you certainly painted a vivid image of OP.
7 likes@TheKushisback Austin powers
2 likes@TheKushisback Oh noooo. I knew it was too good to be true; no one is that clever, witty, and perchance! my soulmate. Serves me right for not having seen Austin Powers.
2 likesThIs is art
2 likesFreaking brilliant 👍😁
1 like😂😂😂
1 like😂😭 good one lol
1 likeCrazy sick mind,pure poisen 😆
1 like@•_• HaNie MP Dayum, you fine!!!
0 likes@Charlotte Stockham Wrong on all counts! LOL You seem really sweet. Love is definitely headed your way.
1 like@velveetaslingshot No offense , in my country it means like adore an idea , like so special comment😆
1 like😂 😂 😂 😂 Let me guess, the killer used sharks with freaking lazer beams to kill the victim?
1 likeIf my mom ever get's accused of murder, she's screwed. They'll think she's guilty regardless because she ALWAYS gives long drawn out explanations with a completely unnecessary amount of detail. lol.
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I know! I'm kinda like that too... But I also have ADD.
782 likesOmg that’s exactly how my mom is!! 😂😂
355 likesI'm the same...just can't stfu. If you see 2 people talking and one of them looks bored.....I'm the other one.
998 likesBut you can tell the difference between a chatty person and a nervous person, plus situations change people's attitudes lol.
366 likesLOL my husband does this with literally everything.
130 likesI’m in this post and i don’t like it 😂😂😂😂 my mom says that to me so the time! “Tess get to the point i don’t need all the details” but then she’ll ask questions she would have had the answer to if she didn’t tell me to fast forward lol
240 likes@B33st1ng Well, lets hope so. Lol
83 likesIt seems my mom isn't the only rambler. I love the hell out of that woman but she is basically incapable of shutting up.
I do too!! I feel like I have to explain everything in long drawn out detail 😟
59 likesYou mean someone that loves to waste other people’s time?...
18 likes@mdcs1992 I busted out laughing at this. It's so me 😂😭💀 I also send long paragraph texts and my family sends back: "k". Infuriating 😂😂
92 likesMoms in a nutshell, gotta love them! :'D
25 likes@yourmom6833 lol mine too! 🤣🤣🤣
3 likesWith enough infomation and well prepared , its easy to know which one is a lie or not .
4 likesHaha! My mom is the same way lol
5 likes@Tessie Deselich Same! Like stop asking me questions before I've even finished LOL.
12 likesYou! You have my mom! Either that or you’re talking about my mom too!
11 likesI love when people take their time to talk. I've been told to "get to the point" by a 'friend' who has an attention span of a cricket when I talked like 2 sentences. Makes me want to never tell them anything again.
39 likesMaybe she's always lying to you lol
11 likes@Phoenix DaVida same here on the ADHD and overexplaining. Very possible that mom here is undiagnosed.
11 likesMy mum is guilty of long drawn out explaination's too. Also, she will start a conversation nd have long pauses in her sentences cos she "thinking"! Annoying, cos I just like people to get to the point lol
14 likesLMAO, I do that ALL the time, thats what my husband & kids tell me, Get to the point!! Too Funny
8 likesHahahahahahaha
1 likeGamers Rise Up
2 likesDana my mom too!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
3 likesOh man me too. I get made fun of so bad. Lol
5 likesWanna get all info out there so no one can say I changed my story if I leave out a stupid detail that I think would not matter but find out that it's really important.
13 likesI feel bad for my mom bc I tell her all the time ma whats the most important part of your story. I'll ask her a few times and every time she shares something else lol, but I think that's just an adverse effect of being very passionate when you speak, you forget the point if your story
7 likesI'm that mom too!
20 likesMay I ask? How was her childhood?
I ask because I NEVER was able to explain myself as I was told to keep quiet so when I was able to finally speak freely....I would be very detailed and yes drawn out because I wanted to be heard and understood. I also am ADHD so I talk a lot when I explain things....
I always warn people please be patient with me. Telling me to get to the point just shuts me down and upsets me.....not fair to not let me speak.
So some people are just hardwired to be overly expressive due to life's circumstances so afford them the respect to speak.
MOMS LOL, sounds just like my mom, omg! :) I always say that as well.
5 likesYooo SAME😂😂😂😂
4 likes@FifthAssassin Found myself showing friends my passport if I am narrating a journey or holiday lol.
7 likesOMG! That's exactly how Ricky's mom is...and I'm Ricky's mom! I hope to hell NO ONE ever suspects me in a crime that JCS analyzes...my yammering on and on ALONE would throw me in prison.
9 likesThe fact that a woman is telling another woman to get to the point is funny by its own.
6 likes@boyeatsworld Not all women. I'm the polar opposite. If I'm being interrogated the only words they're hearing is, "I want a lawyer."
17 likesLuckily for your mom, thats only one technique among a lot others, so shes safe.
0 likesDana my dad is the same way!
1 likeDana 😂😂
1 likeSounds like my Dad!! I was always saying Can you get to the Point? LMAO I miss him. : (
8 likesDana,😂😂😂😂, you get the back story to that already back story given!! I must say that can be exhausting to the listener!!
2 likesLmfaooo yes I can relate. That sounds exactly like my mom. She does this all the time whenever anyone asks her a question. She gets a little upset if you say get to the point or Mom you already told me this story 20 times. It's like she just needs to tell every detail. 🤣🤣
2 likesThat's funny
0 likes@boyeatsworld that's racist
0 likes@Tessie Deselich people prefer dialogues not monologues. So her interjecting serves that purpose. Nobody wants to hear a monologue
2 likesSame with my Mum 🤣 she would also repeat the answers just in case they missed it the first time 😂
2 likesmdcs1992 ~ now THATS funny!!
1 likeAnd that’s me too😂
My boyfriends like this! He has ADD. I can’t tell you how many times he says “long story short” when he’s telling you a story that is in fact not short 😂
11 likesThe last police officer to interview my mother only survived by gnawing off his own leg
9 likesI was thinking the same thing about myself! I kind of OVER explain when I'm asked a question. My thought process is that I assume follow up questions will.comes up so I try to pre-answer them before they are asked so i just have to give one answer not multiple.
5 likesMy husband does this also, I have to tell him hunny is either a yes or no, or speed it up hunny I don't have all day. Lol
4 likesThat's most moms over 55 😆
2 likes@mdcs1992 lmao thanks for the laugh
0 likesMy wife is like that, and when she finaly gets to the point I don't know what she is talking about.
1 likeSon - is that you?
1 likeMy kids understand your plight. They say to me tmi....too much information. Lol. But more kindly they think it's from me being an innocent. Lol. If only they knew. Ahaaaaaaaaaaaa.
4 likes@Tandi Nicole Wow...my kids send me K as well. Is it rude? Do tell.... please!!!
0 likesmdcs1992 lol 😄
0 likesIm the same because i was always getting blamed for things as a child so i feel the need to over explain. I never shut up.
5 likesMy mom is the same.
0 likesDana that’s what i thought of my mom 😂😂👏🏻
1 like@mdcs1992 lol your funny tho .
0 likesVanessa Benefico sane! This is a big fear of mine. I have a personally rule that if I ever have to talk to police I will ask for a lawyer from the very beginning for this exact reason. And cause I’ve seen way to many things about wrongful conviction based on shotty interrogation and I’m gonna do everything to keep that from happening.
4 likesI do as well. It's ridiculous. My texts are preposterous. Lol
0 likesIsn't that most women? If a guy goes out for milk, his response to where he was at will simply be, "I went out to get some milk." The woman's response to that exact same scenario and innocent question will begin the night before and project at least a week into the future with only a 50-50 chance of ever even mentioning the milk, i.e., "Tune in next week when the little woman finally reveals where she went and what she was doing for the past 20 mins?!?"
0 likesIt's cause she's ALWAYS lying to you...
1 likeDude. Me too.
0 likesI also give the long version of stories!
0 likesAll mums do this, apparently I've started doing it too 😅
3 likes@Tessie Deselich 😂😂😂😂
0 likes.
0 likesYeeees My mom does that as well
@mdcs1992
0 likesYour comment made me lol, thanks I needed that
Well shit I'm the same way. Yikes!
0 likesMy mom as well. I’m more of a bottom line person.
0 likesOmg that’s what I was just thinking about myself 😭
0 likesMy mom too lol 😂🤔😅
1 likeWow me too
0 likesNot mine, she be like mind your own business.lol,
1 like@Ziu Waz not this mother. I interrupt the chatty people asking pointed questions to get to the point already. I don't have all day.
3 likesMe too!!
0 likes@Tessie Deselich agreed! Let me tell you now so I don't have to go back later. Been telling things to my mom all my life, she hasn't changed. I know where this is going
0 likesSis?
0 likesHahaha I have an aunt like that. Describing every single step she took to go to the grocery store to buy milk.
0 likes@Dana Well if it's her modus operandi, you can be her character witness.
2 likesYeah but she probably does it with confidence because shes just trying to tell you about her day like most mothers bless her lol I think if they're good enough at their job they will recognise this. Its like the lying thing not everyone feels under pressure and can lie very easily it's why they cant use like detectors in court as evidence if a person convinces themselves of a lie or are just fecking iron gutted that nothing bothers them
1 likeMe too. Everyone hates it:(
1 like@weeklyariana ་༘࿐ May her souls rest in peace.
0 likesMy kids tell me I do this all the time.😄
0 likesLmao i used to always tell my ex to stop giving to much info even about things that are true. Makes it come off more honest. Even if other person isn't trying to observe you that hard, their intuition will pick up on it. Anyone else who is like this just practice giving quick short answers when people ask you questions. I've been in customer service for 10 years and I naturally use this to pick up when someone's BSing me or not.
1 likeSame. Also this is exactly something my kids would say about me🤦🏾♀️😂
0 likes@Phoenix DaVida Me too! My ADD definitely makes my mouth loose on both ends🤣
0 likes@Tessie Deselich Swear. We must share a mom!! 🤦🏽♀️
0 likesThat's how mom's are.
0 likesball stealthy cause you was probably guilty lol what happen
0 likesIm the same but as some else said too im also ADD
0 likes@Dana
1 likeDon't you fret , if it ever comes to that , she will be in shock and probably will do just the opposite ...unless she actually commited the murder that is....
My husband too, so that's reassuring.
1 likeHave you seen her in a chef's uniform by any chance?
0 likesLmao me😭🤣
0 likesMy wife does this too.
0 likes"How was your day sweetheart?"
8 hours later.....
Lawyer will protect such people
0 likesMe too lol
0 likesTessie Deselich me too hahahahaha, I just like to give the details!
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesMy mom comes over. I ask, "Are you hungry?" Her response: "Well, I haven't had much to eat today. I had a small bowl of cereal at about 8:00, then I had a banana for lunch. Oh I also had a glass of juice. I was thinking about making a sandwich because a banana's not much of a lunch, but I never did. I also have some leftover salad in the fridge but that didn't really sound very good today. I did have some chips a couple of hours ago though. So I guess I should be hungry by now, but I usually don't eat dinner until 7:00 so this would be a little early. Oh wait, I just remembered, Carla called me earlier and I was snacking on walnuts while I was talking to her. That's probably why I only had a banana for lunch. Also I ............................. "
3 likesDude! My daughter 🤦♀️ is gonna get locked up for life! She's the queen of "can't get to the point of it stabbed her in the ass" explanations. 🤷🏽♀️
1 likeDo we have the same mom?? Lol
1 likeMy mother would say I'm guilty because I didn't clean my room...and messy people belong in jail...after getting praise praise from family members about how strong she was she'd keep telling herself that I belonged jail...making the story get from messy to broken outhouse whenever she felt threatened
0 likesSo you're assuming she's being honest with you?
0 likesI do the same. it's an OCD thing. I'm always afraid that if I don't go into extensive detail, people won't understand what I'm tryna say. not that they're stupid, I'm just obsessive. it's annoying as hell.
0 likes@Tandi Nicole right? damn that "k" gets me fired up.
1 likeI’m the exact same, and I’d be screwed. I’ve talked myself into so many bad situations, and only talked myself out of them because the people I’m talking to aren’t detectives LOL
0 likesPretty sure everyone's mom is like that.
0 likesHaha thats great. I'd instantly be in prison. Glad I'm an awful liar
0 likesMe too. One cousin of mine (she is very gentle and people in my country are very nonconfrontational) begged me, when I started explained something for her, to not tell her a long story. I was shocked but soon recognise it was true. I can't for the life of me just give a plain answer. I will make a historical introduction at least. Hauhauhaua.
0 likesMines also
0 likesI was thinking the same exact thing about my mom. God rest her soul.
0 likesLol why do moms do that lmao
0 likesDana same
0 likes@Phoenix DaVida I was about to leave exactly the same comment!
0 likesLOL I used to get annoyed at my Mom for doing it. Then I realized after awhile that I do it too, because you see, when I was younger... 🤣
1 likeAs do I ..that's not good
0 likesBahahhhahahaaha
0 likesI'm exactly the same way
0 likes@Tessie Deselich I would love to witness those conversations hahaha
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesMe too and to top it off, I mop and clean with bleach..
0 likesMy dad does that same thing 😳 he could talk someone’s ear off for a day 🤣🥴
1 likeMy mom always does that, I tell her "SUMMARY PLEASE" 😵😵😂
0 likes🙋🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️😂
0 likesMy mum too and me to a lesser extent.
0 likesThe other day Mum was telling me how she cleaned up a bird my brother's cat killed - she told me that it was an empty potato chip/crisp packet that she put it in.
But maybe it would only have been considered unnecessary detail if she told me what flavour chips...
ya my son is like that as well.....
0 likesHad to double check one of my kids didn’t write this.
0 likesi'll be waiting for the JCS video to drop
0 likesI was thinking the same thing for my mom 🤣🤣🤣
0 likesyeah some people are like that so I would be careful saying their trying to hide something 😂
0 likes100% me!
0 likesI give unnecessary details, put story's in story's and somehow add unnecessary private personal information storys answering questions that could have just been about the weather.
I'd me getting loooocked upp.
I told my mom to never be a witness to a murder because both the prosecutor and defense will blow their brains out trying to get a direct answer out of her.
0 likesLol my mum too
0 likes😆😆😆😆😂
0 likes@Phoenix DaVida Me too...😔
0 likesLol. So does my momma. She’s just chatty though
0 likesI know your pain
0 likes🤣🤣
0 likesI’m the same way lol
0 likes100% my dad 😩😩😂
0 likesLMFAO
0 likesMine too 😳😳
0 likesLiterally ditto. I'm so bad at quick short responses 😭😂
0 likesMy moms the same lol!
0 likesI have a sister like that. It drives me crazy but I love her very much and practise patience when she goes on and on.
0 likesI do the same thing Gosh!!
0 likesMine too and mine just has to talk alot if she's nervous at all and she has an anxiety disorder so she's always nervous.
0 likes@Phoenix DaVida hey there sis.
0 likesSo do I 😭😭
0 likesthat’s all moms out there:) my mom doesn’t even leave out the commas and apostrophes, not forgetting the long breaths and facial expressions🤣
0 likesMe: Who had called you just now
0 likesMy Gossip loving family members : After 1 hour of description of caller, oh she was a wrong number .
Maybe she was lying to you all your life???
0 likesYou will end up missing that about her after she has passed...just sit back and enjoy your mom while you still can....long explaining and all....
0 likes@Christopher Hale ouch... That's really deep and sentimental but true. I didn't know white people had such Asian sentiments in them. Respect.
0 likesSounds like my mom
0 likesThat's literally every mom in the world 😂
1 likeGod bless moms and their long dragged stories. And fathers' "get to the point already" 😂
same like i open my mouth and just ramble. its kinda bad bc at the end everyone's just like "bro we wanted to know if ur free on Saturday, not about ur pumpkin named Jack" and then i get all sad 😔
0 likesI'm the same. I find it kinda hard to get an explanation into a few words. Takes me forever
0 likes@Tired of it All 👀 yes because honestly most people don't actually listen to what you say..I'll be like you get what I'm saying or whatever lol..
0 likes@Tandi Nicole dude people do that all the time and I know they didn't read what I said..it legit pisses me off
1 like@LI TH me too!!
0 likes@Suzie Carr if you leave that one thing out it always ends up being important 🤣
1 like@mdcs1992that made me laugh so hard xd
0 likes😆😂😃🤣😆...LOL...that's what my son says about me...
0 likesHmmm...sounds like she's already guilty of something.
0 likesSame
0 likes@Phoenix DaVida for sure Phoenix so do I on both counts. Learning to cut through the noise in your head and keeping in mind the actual question you’re answering is key. I always take a second to think of the basic points of my answer, recognise what doesn’t need to be said and only say the things that matter. Once you’ve done it for a while the ADD super quick thoughts actually help you go through this process pretty much instantly
0 likesLol ... your Mum sounds like me ...lol ...
0 likesMy girlfriend 😆
0 likesJust because she [your mom] sounds guilty doesn't mean she's not guilty.
1 likeIm 60. My family laughs at my way of explaining backstory, side stories, oh plus that thing I just remembered and maybe the point! Lol
0 likes@ZILLAAH707 I'm a year after you commented but I ingested marijuana and had a funny thought. I like shitty dad jokes so bear with me, but one might say your husband has the....... gift of Gab! LOL I'll show myself out.
0 likeswdym if? she committed several murders
0 likesMy boyfriend is the same way 😭🤦🏼♀️
0 likesYou have a foreign mom huh 😩😩 I be so mad when my I’m explains her entire life story just to ask for a bank transfer of her own money sis they don’t need to know how you take your coffee
0 likesJust don't talk without a lawyer. Simple. Invoke your right to a lawyer, and get them to get the best possible defense attorney you can get.
0 likesMy mom did too. 😂
0 likesRIP mom.
I'm the same way. I'll start talking about one thing and take a hundred different turns and tell like 10 separate stories before circling back to answer the original question lol. When I go to tell my dad a story he always jokes and says "hold on let me get my coffee and get comfy".
1 likeDon't ever ask my mom what a movie is about unless you are prepared to investigate a significant amount of time in listening to the answer ... 🙄
2 likes@Phoenix DaVida same here. After a story about anything, asking what was the question?
0 likesSame! She will tell me something then start to tell me why she said that 😭, then tell me why she explained what she said, and so on 😩
1 likeSame with my Mum.... And me also. But I suffer severe anxiety and depression, and this would account for that.
0 likesThat sounds like me☺
0 likesI feel like every mum does that 😂. My mum sometimes calls me and after an Hour long conversation I get to ask why she called.
0 likesOmg I would also be screwed like I'm so chatty also nervous chatter
0 likesWhy would you think that about your Mum?
0 likesmost people do, people bore me to tears a lot of the time
0 likesBe patient dont be a jerk
0 likesMaybe she’s always lying AND guilt
0 likesLmaooo same
0 likesMy best friend is like that too 🤣🤣🤣 I always she to stop her so she can get to the point
1 likeDamn....we must be sisters then. There can't be 2 of them! No one will ever live long enough for my mom to finish a totally unnecessary story that only requires a "yes" or "no" .
0 likes@Phoenix DaVida ong same lmao
0 likesyeah this is a problem i have with this channel, he always assumes everyone responds the same way if they're guilty or innocent. he just picks obvious guilty cases to build confirmation bias
0 likes@Richard Smoker Well, he didnt come up with that. He just broke down one thing cops look for to tell if you’re lying about something. The problem is that reading/interpreting body language, facial expressions, & speech patterns, for the purpose of deception detection, is not an exact science. For example, it is true that people often over-embellish stories with unnecessary detail when they are lying but as illustrated by this comment thread, some people are just that way all the time. This is why a good cop tries to get to know the suspect prior to interrogating them. And its also why you can’t reliably hang your hat on one single behavior, body language cue, facial expression, or speech pattern to detect deception. One sign isnt enough to be confident the person is lying. But if they do that AND they take like pauses as if they are making things up as they go AND they forgot the details about what they previously told you when asked to repeat their story AND they look away uncomfortably when recounting something (etc)- now it is getting more likely they are lying. Someone might exhibit 1 or 2 signs of deception and it may not mean they are lying; perhaps thats just a quirk when it comes to their communication style. But when you see 4, 5, 6 (or more) signs, then you have good reason to be suspicious
0 likesMe recently diagnosed with ADD hiding in the comments 👀
0 likesMy mother is exactly the same. She babbles without context to such an extent that she would probably be only the second person on this channel to be found not guilty on the grounds of insanity.
0 likesHahaha. Thats funny af
0 likes@Apóstolo da Razão 🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesmy mom would start in the middle of the explanation keep going until you tell her I don't know what your talking about.
0 likesTell her to just say Lawyer and she should be fine
0 likes@Ruben Teo Brada Yeah, assuming she listens to my advice… lol
0 likeshonestly same 😂i get off track too i’ll be like “hold up lemme give you context on why this important” 💀
0 likes@Amanda Solo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesIm like that i would be screwed lol
0 likesOh no 😩 I have autism and adhd so I explain everything in vivid detail and I talk a lot. I better not ever be in the wrong place and become a suspect or I'll be screwed lol
2 likesMoms gonna mom
1 likefr, when I’m completely innocent I act so damn guilty skskskksksks
0 likesI'm curious about the experience the interrogators have with psychology. Do they have a certified psychologist in all these interrogations? Nobody is the same.
0 likes@Matt Egelhoff No, not typically
0 likesThis is one of my main concerns. Pretty sure she'll say more than the murderer themselves, I always tell my mom about this cuz we never when she'll be helpful and be called a suspect
0 likesMany women are completely illogical in conversations. They bring up new people, sometimes with a totally new subject and a new situation, and refer to the new characters of the brand new topic as "they" or "she," as if the listener can read their mind and magically know about a different person than the ongoing subject we were talking about. All WITH NO explanation.
0 likesThey act as if they had NOT introduced new characters in the current story about "they" and "she." It's completely baffling! I call them out on it all the time.
@mdcs1992
0 likesYou should walk away and say, "When you talk about something interesting, I'll stay and listen."😂😂😂😂
that's how my dad is haha
0 likes@mdcs1992 😂😂
0 likesThat long draw explanation is obviously not the only criterion they judge on xD
0 likesMy mom does that too LMFAOOOOO
0 likes@Dana…. Sound like the same answer a murders daughter would give…
1 like@Michael G Shes a nurse actually.
0 likesMost women are like this lol 😆
0 likesIt’s about consistency of response, if your mom has the consistency of butter she should be able to slide out of any accusation
0 likesHahahahahhahahahaha
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesHilarious! hahaha.
0 likesNah they know what they are doing. When I had detectives talk to me about a close person to me who died, with I was living with, I have adhd so I'm terrible with that but eventually it's painfully obvious when someone is innocent or guilty.
0 likesThat shit sucked. Being treated guilty until they find out what happened, who was there. But it's their job and I get it.
Yes I know what you are saying. I have a xsister in law that’s goes on and on about things. A verbal journey she will take you on.
1 likeY E S
0 likes@B33st1ng It's a joke lighten up lol.
0 likeslucky you lol
0 likesI’m the same. The lady at the grocery asking how is my day because it’s her job and me “oh therapy session is in... well it’s been a long day and ya know teenagers and how they are and then ya got bills.........”
0 likesYou underestimate her. She would probably ask for a lawyer....
0 likes@tresham79 And miss a chance to talk endlessly? I seriously doubt it
0 likesOmgggggggg Dana my mother does the same thing 😆
0 likesMy mom too!
0 likesI was thinking the same thing about myself 😅
0 likes😂 I know a few ppl like this !
0 likesI do this, too
0 likesOmg! My dad and I do this too! We are totally screwed because we give waaaaaay too much information- way more than necessary!
1 like@Tandi Nicole hahahaha! I’m the same exact way! I’m so 💀
1 likePeople say that about me too 🤣
0 likesThis 😂
0 likesAll moms r screwed son!! - ♡mom
0 likes@mdcs1992 LOL, I am another bored one ..
0 likesLmfao
0 likesShe must be a gemini
0 likes@Daniel Cassidy lol!!! But just listen that means she trusts you as a confidant! Good hubby, GOOD
0 likes😧🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesI don’t that talking too much is automatically guarantees you being accused. I feel like it’s can just raise initial suspicion a bit, but if what you say does make sense and don’t contradict your alibi you should be fine
0 likesMy kids would say the same thing about me probably 🤣
0 likesHA HA ! That was funny as hell.. Two years later
1 likeOmg I’m the same way and my son always gives me shit for it lol I’m screwed if I’m ever interrogated, even if I’m innocent 😂😂
0 likesSounds like me...🤣🕺
0 likesSo do I lol. People get pissed at me for it. Even in texts or messages on messenger, I type out a book if someone asks me something like "How's your day goin?" 😂
0 likessame as my ex gf.....I'd ask her "how was your day" and 90 mins later I'm hearing about her aunt's hysterectomy and her nephew's bowel movements.....
0 likesYes mine as well!! 😆
0 likesMy dad's the same way. He knows how to talk and talk and talk, but not how to stop.
0 likesSame here lol. I have learned from these videos that apparently I talk like I'm guilty of something. He mentioned that it can be due to seeking approval, which that is certainly true, or just constant fear of everything due to trauma
0 likesthats me
0 likesI think people usually react way different when they're being interrogated.
0 likesThat was great, it made me laugh out loud 😂
1 likeomg mine too!! ill be like ".... all i asked was what you had for lunch yesterday...??"
0 likeshere in CN foreign students are not allowed to work, and i was working in a part time job, and one day in the morning i got a phone call from the police, he asked me to go to the police station and find him there, i did that immediately, there was a translator too, they questioned me for 2 hours, and then they took all my belongings even my shoes, they took blood sample, hair sample, they took my finger prints with an electronic device and after that they put my hand into some kind of black ink and made me press on a paper, then they took me to jail where i stayed about 4 hours, there was a bucket of black water, so i knew i was gonna was my hands in it and i did. and after that they took me into a small room which was like a court room, walls was covered with a soft spongy thing which was green color, there was a chair in the middle they made me sit there, and there was a computer on the table next to the door, this time there was 2 officers and the translator, there was a camera, they were recording it, they asked me the same questions, i was charged with 10k yuan/rmb and then they let me go. it was literally the worst day of my life. i was getting ready for my last year in the university i was so worried that it would affect my study. luckily it didn't. because there have been students got deported because of the same reason and other stupid reasons. anyway i have finally graduated last month and i am going back home in two weeks. so i know how i was acting in a situation which wasn't that serious and in a situation like that i would have a heart attack from the moment they asked me "what happened to your neck?"
0 likesUpdate: Lee Rodarte was sentenced to 40 years (minus credit for time already served) after pleading guilty to second-degree murder. The charges of tampering with evidence and abusing a dead body were dropped in the plea deal.
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Good
9 likesThank you for the update.
26 likesdid he get parol?
1 likeWhat was the motive?
0 likesThe motive for this murder was admitted to in the interrogation by Lee himself. In many workplaces, it is against company policy for managers to be involved with subordinates. He says this in the beginning of the interrogation.
12 likes@Mark Feagans I know that was said, but that’s definitely not a clear statement of motive. I’m sure he could have killed her because he didn’t want to lose his restaurant job (?), but he was also lying through his teeth at that point. When he brought that up, he was still denying it.
49 likes@Mark Feagans no way that was the motive. If you believed that you belived everything his said when he started talking.
43 likesHe's trying to appeal and use the Stand Your Ground law. I'm assuming he doesn't like prison that much.
3 likes@Liz 40 years minus time served is hardly life. He'll have to serve a minimum and then apply.
14 likesI wonder how it would have went if this was actually a mistake and he called an ambulance / 911 immediately.
1 likeIt blows my mind why plea deals are pursued in cases like this.
16 likes@Harry Knackers there is always a chance of some crazy stuff going down at trial, like key evidence being deemed inadmissible or some other loophole, it saves a lot of time and resources and brings the chance of them getting off to zero to make a plea like this. Sometimes they just make a deal so the killers will tell them where they put the body, so the family can have a burial as well.
13 likes@justin snider I'd rather just put them in the meat grinder, but I admit I'm on the harsher end of the scale.
5 likes@Harry Knackers yeah bring back public hangings and I think a lot of folks will think twice before committing cold blooded murder. If the moral compass isn’t enough you’ve got to scare the shit out of some people.
9 likes@Liz no? He's a murderer?!
2 likes@justin snider
3 likesBut places that have eliminated capital punishment do not have higher murder rates than places that do. And historically, punishments were much harsher than they are today (public flogging, public execution even for nonviolent crimes) and yet crime was even higher in the past than it is today.
Capital punishment doesn't deter murder, the only justification for it is, in my opinion, the moral justification that people who take the life of another deserve to have their life taken from them.
@A. Velderrain crime was higher in the past for many reasons and i doubt the removal off capitol punishment had much if anything to do with murder rates dropping. Life in prison is a pretty good deterrent for most people, but not all.
2 likes@justin snider
7 likesI actually do believe that the less frequent use of capital punishment, and certainly its use more privately, did much to bring down the rate of murder. People do not commit crimes because they feel like the punishment is light (in fact, people who commit crimes are not trying to be punished at all if possible), but because they believe that there is nothing morally wrong with their actions.
If one believes that a crime such as murder is immoral, they will be reluctant to commit that crime, regardless of its penalty. But if they believe that murder is morally acceptable, they will not be so hesitant to murder even if the punishment is strict.
When executions are performed frequently and publicly, the value of human life is diminished, and people are therefore more likely to see nothing wrong with taking it.
@justin snider lol yeah cuz making sentences harsher stopped people back in the day from doing crimes. If anything, people commit less crimes now than they did then
0 likes@Coltafanan Studios yes, but is that due to removing capitol punishment? There are many factors that have changed from the past that contribute to less crimes.
1 like@Ephin Restaurant job? Are you serious? You think someone would kill to defend that job? I’m 99% sure she didn’t want to date him for being on drugs and killed her. Seems like u could use all these videos 💀
3 likes@Alex Lopez literally the entire point of my comment was to point out how unlikely it was that the job was the motive. Please take a moment to reread.
2 likes@Harry Knackers What blows my mind more is some people on this thread think he’s a little darling that just made the wrong choice.
1 like@Liz I think so but thirty years is mandatory.
0 likes@Coltafanan Studios But Mexicans don't.
0 likesMy opinion is, crimes like this there should be no plea bargaining of any kind!!!...
0 likesthanks for the update. this was the comment i was looking for.
0 likes@Alex Lopez it may have been something else certainly, who knows. Assuming that it definitely wasn’t the threat of losing his job is precluding his irrationality.
0 likesSavannah deserved so, so much better. She left a big impact on our community and is missed dearly by those who were close to her. I did not know her personally but we shared many of the same friends. Watching this play out was heartbreaking, we were all so scared for her and confused.
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Sorry
1 likeyou changed the title from "The case of Lee Rodarte" to "The last person seen with Savannah." Whatever it is the reason this change was made, it's amazing to feel you alive. Thank you for everything. True Crime youtube isn't the same without you <3 we hope you are okay.
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Probably privacy reasons
3 likesCrazy to think that this channel draws so much views without flashy titles or attractive thumbnails to boost clickbait. It really comes to show the quality of its content. Please keep making these, no matter what YouTube thinks. I make the commitment to join your Patreon if you have one, you truly deserve a huge audience and much more.
380 likesKeep up the good work!
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They don’t upload videos here from over an year .
0 likes@Pepperkill Development Do they upload them anywhere else?
0 likeser, it's the JCS bit that's the clickbait.
0 likes@Katie G How is JCS clickbait if it's actually a video uploaded by JCS? If the video wasn't uploaded by JCS then i would have to agree with you...
8 likes@Jonathan Pluto not that anyone knows of. If you look at the community tan on their page. There is a brief explanation for why they don’t post anymore.
0 likesI think it's because the content is compelling. Everything on the channel is real, authentic and dramatic, insofar as it is tragic and comedic.
0 likesNever talk without your lawyer. Also, don’t kill people.
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But for sure don’t talk without your lawyer.
7450 likesboth good pieces of advice
4280 likescheck and check
1017 likesHahaha great advice!!!!
327 likes@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ not if you get framed
947 likesTwo good rules, but everyone knows that the second one is more difficult ...
511 likesIn that order?
162 likesThey didn't arrest him so he wouldn't think to have any reason to call an attorney.
91 likesInstructions unclear. I committed genocide.
306 likesBest legal advice..... ever!
27 likesThat last part was obviously an afterthought. It's so disgusting that a lawyer could look at this video and that's the first thing they think. Yeah, lets delay the police investigation on a guilty person. I'm not saying everyone should talk to the police without a lawyer but this dude definitely should.
72 likesLol. Gold advice.
15 likesat least he admitted to it rather than calling in a lawyer
72 likesthough ultimately pleading not guilty and self defence is a coward's move
Yup
4 likesTelios Abraxas kardashian fans 😂
12 likesalways invoke your right to a lawyer. Even and especially when you're innocent,(see Central Park 5 case). Cops lie. They can lie and they will lie to get whatever they need to place the blame for a crime. INVOKE YOUR RIGHT TO A LAWYER! ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE INNOCENT! But lmao if you're guilty, don't think you can handle it without a lawyer.
168 likesOr, Don't kill people. But if you do, ask for your lawyer right away. In that order.
27 likesTrue!!
3 likes@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ That's not true. Never talk without a lawyer. Innocent people get sent to prison all of the time.
119 likesThanks man B)
2 likesSlow down!! I need to get my notepad
22 likesand most importantly : never kill you lawyer
67 likes@Telios Abraxas there wouldnt be Kardashian fans if there were no Kardashians to begin with.....OOF.
8 likesTwo pearls of wisdom right there
7 likesEvan Gelos Bahahahaha
3 likesAlthought I love these videos so much, it makes me worried for murderers who watch them. They understand the tactics of interrogation now and we won't be able to incriminate them
64 likesWithout your lawyer.
1 likeYes and they're mutually exclusive if you do one don't do the other
3 likesthanks for the advice lol
4 likesBut if youre not guilty at all why would this matter, honestly? Ik you wanna flex the fact you have rights but I mean cmon. Someone @ me!
9 likes@Penetrator X you coud say smth incriminating without even knowing and if they have no further clues they coud put you as a main suspect. i know that if you did nothing wrong you shoudnt worry but its beter to call a lawyer just as a precaution
41 likesPenetrator X no matter what the police may try and make you think, they aren't your friend, unfortunately. Keeping quiet is your right, and use it. There are good cops out there, but it's their job to make you talk and incriminate yourself, leading to an easier case later on. Doesn't matter if it be murder or petit theft etc, if you're arrested keep quiet and lawyer up. Use the limited rights given to you
46 likesLobster rolls are good
9 likesBut especially if did kill some.
1 likeAre you innocent? Get your lawyer.
33 likesDid you murder someone? Get your lawyer.
@BRAVOZULU DWEST boathouse Thanks guy who takes YouTube comments too seriously
9 likes@Rick Mann what do you mean the second one is more difficult O_O what the fuck dude
6 likes@ashrasmun Do you know second degree humour?
10 likesunless youre Stephen McDaniel, that man is better than a lawyer
9 likesLiterally.... these people obviously are guilty and deserve to be convicted, but why are they so stupid. Even if I was innocent I would ask for a lawyer
16 likesYa even if you’re innocent don’t talk without a lawyer
9 likesGood advice
3 likesKEK
3 likesas soon as you have lawyer you give up jurisdiction...and consent to the game
0 likesDanny H bullshit. They have to tell him he has the right to have an attorney present whether arrested or not.
4 likesYoud think people would know to NOT talk at all ask for lawyer in ANY investigation not just murder. 🙄 People always assume they can talk their way out, you CANT and WONT.
10 likesHeavy on the dont kill ppl part. Lol
4 likesTelios Abraxas kardashian fans?!?! Not even the kardashians but their fans??! LMAO never seen anyone hate them this much that’s crazy
4 likesthere’s only so much a lawyer can do.
2 likesMy lawyer advised me not to post this comment
16 likesNever kill people without your lawyer.
5 likesIf he had a lawyer he had a chance to walk away with murder under his belt
2 likesExcellent way to put that.
2 likes@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ sometimes that doesn't work like wrong place wrong time
6 likesLmao amen
0 likesThat 2nd one is getting so hard to keep up with...
1 likeSo.... if he never admits to it he would of been able to get away w it?
1 likelol, first don't talk without a lawyer, and then you go "um yeah and maybe like try not to kill anyone if you can help it"
2 likesyou're on the side of the criminal here
Solid, solid advice sir.🤪
2 likesDon't kill and chances are much better of not needing a lawyer.
2 likes@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ Tell that to the Central Park 5!!
3 likesImpossible
0 likesI just got spoilerd nooooo
1 likeif you do kill someone, dont talk without your lawyer. He could've easily avoided guilt by asking for a lawyer
1 like@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ no, seriously, don't talk to cops unless you have your lawyer with you. You have no idea how an investigation will play out, it might lead the cops right back to you and then your talking will bite you in the ass. Especially if you have a higher possibility for committing the crime, in the eyes of the cops.
3 likesBut if you do kill people, make sure you can afford a really fuckin' good lawyer. Doesn't matter how damning the evidence, some people have walked away with their freedom intact. Example - OJ Simpson.
2 likesBut if you must, ask for a lawyer
0 likesInstructions unclear. I killed my lawyer.
6 likesWoooot
0 likes@Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition don't even talk with your lawyer
0 likesI feel like maybe you should flip those sentences around. Don’t kill people, also don’t talk without your lawyer. But like yeah, especially don’t kill people
1 likeFIRST...! don’t kill people
1 likePriorities
1 like😂😂😂
0 likesExcellent advice my friend!
1 likeHow about never get in to a position where you might need a lawyer.
2 likesBucket Head I almost confessed to it to get her to cut it out with the high school drama skit
1 likeIf you’re a murderer I don’t recommend talking to your lawyer. Trust the cops and prosecutors every word.
4 likesEvan Gelos serious question could he have gotten away scot free if he never admitted or talked? Sounds like the investigation only found out the truth after his admittance
0 likesLol
0 likesAnd dont burn their bodies
0 likesCHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ hahahha not true man the state pins things on innocent people like clock work its a busniess always use a lawyer innocent or guilty.
3 likesHere is a better tip. Just dont talk at all. You dont need to hire a lawyer to maintain silence.
3 likesYup, why do you think Casey Anthony got off? She never got interrogated.
2 likesStick to no.2 and you wouldn't have to remember no.1.
1 like"also , don't kill people" LMAO ! Don't kill INNOCENT people , I would add.
0 likesHe is innosent. Teh vidoe was FAKE and he was ewet up by his former gorfend HE DI DNTO DO IT! Occupy Denver!
0 likesWell DUH....
0 likesBetter advice than this just doesn't exist. 😂
1 likeGet your priorities straight, just don't kill people ... that way you won't be needing a lawyer.
3 likesHe said sorry.
1 like@Telios Abraxas Kardashians' fans 😂😂 lmao
0 likesI snorted
1 likeWhen he is answering their first question, not only is he running his mouth on and on and on but he also is already putting the victim on trial. He wants them to know that the loss of the likes of Savannah is not a very great loss. "She used drugs a lot" and because he is such a good guy "he took a step back" because of course being a good guy he could not afford to get too close to a drug user. Now isn't that special? So she used drugs, you POS. Did she ever kill anyone?
1 likeI must confess that the logic of some people just totally escapes me. "I don't want my place of employment to know about the affair I was having with Savannah because that might get me fired. Wonder what it will do to my career path if I murder her instead?" It may come out later in the video because I am not quite finished with it yet but I wonder if Savannah was pregnant and that's what the terrible argument was about. If she has a baby and DNA says he is the father, it sort of shoots down any attempt on his part to say she was lying and that they weren't actually having an affair.
Don’t be a criminal and you eliminate both your points 🤷🏿♂️
2 likesEvan Gelos LMAO!!
0 likes@amopotato youre surprised by this but say others are naive? Lmao
0 likesIn situations like these i hope the suspect doesnt have a lawyer
1 likeTALK TO LAWYERS ALLDAY LONG WHEN YOU HURT PEOPLE.!!!!!!
0 likesAnd, NEVER kill your lawyer!!
0 likesCan you kill people to send a message?
0 likesDon't murder. Killing in self-defense is allowed. And yes, never chat with police sans lawyer.
1 like2 great pieces of advice
0 likesIf he had had a lawyer he might have walked cause that so called "proof" they had, that she was in his car, was the grainiest surveillance video I've ever seen.
1 likeNever talk without a lawyer even when you know you’re not guilty, any number of things could implicate you for something you didn’t do, this not only will ruin your life, but it means they won’t catch the right guy.
4 likesIndigoStarAz I doubt it, you can still clearly see she doesn’t leave the car regardless of graininess. So the proof you mentioned has nothing to do with her being in the car, but the fact that she doesn’t leave the car. I mean let’s say he says she got out at another location, it’s a shopping area, all police need to do is get more footage, to show that’s a lie. Or look at the current footage for any vehicle he would describe. I don’t think he would have walked either way, I think all this did was make it open and shut.
1 likeIn what world do grown adults not understand this golden rule. Both of these rules, for that matter.
2 likesUnderstandable, but damn he would need a lawyer From God to get out of the grave he put himself in by saying "She Got Out" without knowing there was video proof...
1 like@peace or power I know every lawyer in the World would not have saved hem from the grave he dug. With the proof and his confession their would be no way out of this; best case he pleads guilty & hopefully gets a lesser sentence.
1 likeYou only need a lawyer when your Guilty! If you didn't do anything why need a Lawyer?!?
1 likeThe guilty will always explain away...but an innocent person would either ask questions or ask for lawyer
0 likes"I want to speak with a lawyer. I want to speak with a lawyer" that's the only shit you say. They.'re not your friend, they will trick you.
4 likesGlad you are concerned that potential murderers could get in to trouble
1 like@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ that isn't all you have to do. The police are perfectly capable of being lazy stupid and corrupt. You have to protect yourself against that. Being innocent is no guarantee of being found so in court
5 likesIn that particular order ?
1 likeUnless you've sworn allegiance to the establishment and to support their agendas
0 likesYou funny lol
0 likes@🔴 Bucket Head it's fucking embarassing
0 likesFemale officer way too dramatic, I wouldn’t tell her anything
2 likesAMEN!
0 likesNever wantonly kill anyone, then you won't be facing interrogation by homicide detectives for long! So you save the cost of a lawyer. Lawyering up causes investigators to ramp up their efforts even more! Yes, sometimes innocent people can look guilty by lawyering up but it might minimize the process so the police can then move on and devote their efforts toward the actual perpetrators much sooner.
1 like😂😂😂, just don’t kill peoples and you wouldn’t need a lawyer in the first place 🤪🤪🤪.
0 likesIf you kill people, do the world a favor and DON'T talk to a lawyer.
3 likesWhoops
0 likes@Andrea Moore Because police ARE allowed to lie during any interrogation. Sometimes people will agree to things they did not do just to end the interrogation. Not every person suspected or interrogated is guilty. You can be a suspect and questioned while still being innocent. Know your RIGHTS and do not throw away your constitutional right to avoid self-incrimination. This guy is guilty but we are all innocent until proven guilty by a jury of our peers in a court of law.
3 likesdon't kill any living creature how bout that. we're all God's creation....dammit.
2 likesThank you. I have written that down 😉🙃
0 likesalso... mustaches went out of style about 35 years ago.
3 likesOnly thing that ever makes a case a slam dunk is a confession, but this dude was fucked. That tape was devastating evidence, with or without a body. He's in Florida where they can and will take a murder case to a jury without a body
1 likeIf you can't answer simple questions without a lawyer present there is something seriously wrong with you. and if the first words out of your mouth are 'I want a lawyer' when all they're doing is asking simple questions you shouldn't have any issue with if you're innocent, you may as well be wearing a tshirt that says 'i'm guilty,! I did it! prosecute me!'
2 likesYou want a wrongful conviction? Cause thats how you get one
So true
0 likesBucket Head Fan It worked didn’t it
1 likePsh, tell that to Casey Anthony
1 likeAlso...dont date people at the bo e house grill
2 likes@Brainglow_LightBright I always remember this and start acting and talking like icecube
1 like@Tony Good question. They definately had some evidence. I think it would have been a longer, more drawn-out case for sure. Moral of the story. Don't get into drugs. Don't kill people. Don't be an asshole. Don't have an ego/pride. Walk away. Can you imagine how many crimes are commited just because of pride or ego? This dude could have gotten lots of other girls and/or drugs if he wanted to. But now someone's dead, and he's probablly going to jail for a long time.
2 likesMy friend was under arrest for a fight that occurred at his job.
2 likesAnyhow, he asked for a lawyer and was repeatedly told no.
So what do you do at that point?
LMAO
0 likesasking for a lawyer slows down the process of incriminating the killer. that's why detectives always try to wear the suspect out when they have strong evidence, so that he's so caught up in the interview he doesn't ask for one. So in this case the family of the victim has to be very grateful that he didn't ask for a lawyer. They could have never had the closure and justice they needed.
1 likeDont talk to police period. They say they protect and serve but they are there to protect the rich and powerful and serve them. Not us.
1 likeI use this channel to find out how to get away with murder XD
0 likesIn reverse order.
1 like@Danny H when they mirandized him, he should have considered it a clue that he needs a lawyer
1 likeTo me this is just one more reason why I believe people are very ignorant. How does someone this dumb even begin to think they will get away with murder?🤨😅
1 likeDont kill without reason
0 likesIn that order
1 likeAlso if you’re going to kill someone make it your lawyer
1 likeI agree, I mean, talking to your lawyer is bad, makes me sick
1 likeTwo excellent life suggestions.
1 likeThis needs to be pinned 💯
1 likePlease do talk without a lawyer so we can actually hear the full truth
2 likes@Joseph Charles stand up for murderers now?
0 likesNOW you tell me 😬😱
3 likesLeaves to hide people ⚰️⚰️⚰️
we still have to work on the order 😂
1 like🤣
0 likesAnd if you do kill someone, please talk without a lawyer.
1 likedon't kill ppl then you won't need a lawyer.
1 like@Just One Time Nobody's rooting for him because he's male. That's ridiculous.
1 likeIn fact, nobody's rooting for him at all. There are a lot of people who reflexively root against cops in interrogations, probably because they are leftists and leftists reflexively root against the cops. But it's also because they have an overdeveloped sense that justice comes from making it as hard as possible to convict people.
1 likeProbably with noting.... Not necessarily in that order.
1 likeTLDR; never talk before killing your lawyer
0 likesThank you for the advice
1 likeIn that order
1 likeThe two rules of life
1 like@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ
0 likesIf only we lived in such a perfect world.
U ruined all the fun 😂
1 like@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ Well, some people are innocent and shouldn't be talking without their lawyers really
1 likeslightly out of order but i get your point
0 likesAnd if you badly need one, you better call saul
0 likesLol
0 likes@Penetrator X If you're not guilty but you're the prime suspect for a crime, cops will and have fabricated evidence, forced confessions of things people didn't do, and lie in order to lock someone up for the crime. It's not about your rights, it's about giving yourself the best chance of not spending time in prison.
1 likeCHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ you’ve obviously know nothing about the criminal justice system in America. Even if you’re 1000% innocent ALWAYS lawyer up
1 likeDanny H exactly it doesn’t matter
0 likes@🔴 Bucket Head
0 likesThere's a reason why she's a detective, not an actor. 😂
Almost every video I am yelling LAWYER, NOW
0 likesOr just don't get cort slipping lol
0 likes@Telios Abraxas "An eye for an eye" means not to over punish. Your punishments endanger men, women and children by over punishing. I hope you are not a Judge.
0 likesBetter call saul....
0 likesTelios Abraxas kardashian fans LMAO
0 likes@Louis E I was wondering, can the police do that if he didn’t actually have an outstanding warrant? Like say they suspect that I killed somebody or they have me on video or whatever and they want to bring me in and talk to me, but I don’t have any outstanding warrants, can they just make one up in order to arrest me? Like you said, if it were me, alarm bells would be going off like crazy because I know I don’t have any speeding or parking tickets I didn’t pay, or public intoxication or whatever.
0 likes@GuriMon It really doesn’t matter. I watched one that involved a policewoman. She wasn’t a detective, but she at least worked with criminals and understood how they lie and whatnot. She got caught big time. She fell for every one of the detective’s tricks. It was the Stephanie Lazarus case. You can find the full interview on YouTube. It’s over an hour long. My point is that you might think you can beat these professional interrogators, but even a professional policewoman just got destroyed in the interview.
0 likes@🔴 Bucket Head for real though
0 likesWhat terrible advice! Most of these scumbags would get off if they had a lawyer present.
1 likeSimple but crucial advice!
0 likesPlead the fifth
0 likesespecially dont kill people for a job...
0 likesDanny H It doesn’t matter though, he should have asked for a lawyer. I know the guise was as a witness, but he could just frame it as bad things happen to good people all the time, and this just helps avoid that. He could have even said as much for my protection as it is for yours, haha.
0 likesdvergur everyone should though, it’s the system “the man” has designed
0 likes@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ Also don't be born into a disadvantaged group otherwise God will spite you.
0 likesNever talk.......
0 likesBe on your best behavior and you will never need a lawyer
0 likesno please talk, otherwise murderers will get away like that woman who killed her child in one of his videos
1 like@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ nah the innocent project has already shown not to talk without a lawyer (or at all really). They use everything you say or don't say and work backwards to convict you whether you did it or not..
2 likesWhy didn't they release the confession? What did they do to make him confess? What if... he was actually innocent?
0 likes@Danny H if you think you are a suspect then you can be silent without a lawer.
0 likes@dvergur lawer are not stupid. many of them works for money and not for innocent people.
0 likesHave you ever eaten at Evangelo’s?
0 likesProblem is: asking for a lawyer at this stage makes you look very guilty...
1 like@Rusty Shackleford I'm guessing because it's still ongoing or something like that
0 likesDon't talk to cops
1 like@Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition A lawyer would have only probably given heim a fe weeks/months of freedom!
0 likes@GuriMon Criminals are way more concerned about getting drugs. They don't have the attention span for a 30 min movie
0 likesAlways get a lawyer, especially if you're innocent. Watch the confession tapes on Ntflx. Innocent ppl confess to crimes they didn't commit all the time.
1 likeWhat if you don’t have a lawyer?
1 likeFirst part is important.
0 likesFrom a Tom Segura comedy special: "Lawyer up. You can’t handle that shit. Everybody’s like, “I’m gonna talk to the cops and straighten this whole thing out.” You’re gonna do 25 to life. Have fun with that, man."
4 likesThat was funny!
0 likes@Telios Abraxas Kardashian Fans? HAHAHA
0 likesJust found your channel. Pretty dope 👌
0 likes@I. Wynn Wynn and the other way round
0 likesThink before you act 🤷🏼♂️
0 likesSolid advice
0 likesBut most of all nevrr talk without a lawyer and anything you say can and WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU!!!
0 likesPriorities. Lawyer first , murder later :)
0 likes@dvergur criminal defense attorneys jobs arent to decide a client's guilt or innocence. Their job is to fight for their client and give them what they paid for.
1 likewhy not let them confess?
0 likesThe lawyer that defends murderer is a part of the crime . when you murder some one the lawyer will not help you in that ....every crime scene has incriminating evidences no matter how good you are
1 like@yahya KY thats not true at all. a lawyer has a job to put up the best defense you can put up.
1 likeGetting interrogated repeatedly would make a lot of people break, sadly. In this case, however, he didn't even mention wanting to be quiet.
0 likespart 2 is harder to follow
0 likes😁👌
0 likesbut perhaps not in that order
0 likesTelios Abraxas hahahahaha “kardashian fans”
0 likesEvan Gelos exactly! That’s the most bullshit attempt cops use. Even good ones. I have no issue cooperating with good officers, but the second I hear some variation of that: “if you have nothing to hide, you have no reason not to let me search your vehicle” for instance. My immediate reply is always, “i have nothing to hide so you have no reason to search”
0 likesALL THESE FUCKING RULES I CANT KEEP UP
1 like@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ And lawyer up, always
0 likesThat why I go to traffic court with a lawyer😀
0 likesThanks you I am a criminal and I’m learning what not to do
0 likesTHERE IS a good video about this titled: DON'T TALK TO POLICE made by a prosecutors' prosecutor and backed by police investigators. Never talk to police even if you are innocent of of a crime. Police is not your friend. Tons of innocent people have gone to prison because they couldn't shut their trap.
1 likeNever talk without a lawyer, okay got it.
0 likesNEVER talk even with a lawyer present. A lawyer who asks you to talk in an interrogation like this one is not a good lawyer. If they have evidence of you committing a crime. let them take you to court and send you to prison if that's what will happen. You don't want to go to prison for murder because you simply sent a text telling your girlfriend to "GO DIE BEATCH!" the night before. Just that phrase alone, some statements from some friends testifying that you said once: "I HOPE THE BEATCH DIES AND LEAVES ME ALONE", coupled with no alibi (you were sleeping or robbing somebody's house) and some stiupid and emotional s... you told investigators like "sometimes I wanted to kill her, but I would've never done that" is enough to send you to prison for the rest of your life.
1 likeNEVER TALK TO POLICE. In reality the job of most investigators is to find "anybody" to blame for the crime. They do it all the time. You can report an abduction and end up being the prime suspect, using your life savings to defend yourself. I'm telling you, unless a crime has been committed against a child, the world can go to hell to me. Use your brain at all times. Police is not your friend, unless you are the victim. Keep calling 911
@Madiela Mofokeng Innocent guy tired of being grilled for hours with lawyer by his side.
1 likeInvestigator: Did you kill her Luke?
Innocent Guy: Because I tried once doesn't mean I killed her this time. Maybe I was on drugs last night and might have...
Lawyer: WAIT! Shhhhhh, he didn't mean that Mr. Investigator. What he meant was that...
Investigator: Suuuure....
NEVER TALK TO POLICE. NEVER!
Little” A”. Little “B”
0 likes@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ unfortunately not true 😕 lots of people are wrongfully convicted! But still a good idea!
2 likes@dazhibernian maybe best to not get them involved in the actual murder though right? 😆👍
0 likesDon’t kill people. Period. He knew the second he was brought in for a “ticket”. STOP EATING BATS
0 likes@Zeke Hester Yeah, well he’s guilty as hell.
0 likesMax Towers haha
0 likesfacts.
0 likes.....Not in that Oder mind you....
0 likesMore like don't kill people and never talk without your lawyer. Honestly if I didn't commit a crime I would tell them you can take my DNA,fingerprints and my clothing but other than that I have nothing to say until my lawyer is right here. I'm not sitting there for hours on end being asked the same questions over and over just worded differently. They aren't going to have the opportunity to twist my words into what they claim is a confession. Some,not all cops get tunnel vision and try to make the evidence fit the crime.
1 like@I. Wynn Wynn and females not against males 🤷 tf was the reason for all that?
0 likesDon't kill people first because if you don't kill people you wouldn't have to talk without your lawyer...
0 likesLOL! Very important advice. Oh and one more thing not related to this case, if you are the killer don't do a news interview.
0 likesNot in that order
0 likesYeah maybe just dont kill, u know
0 likesActually dont kill people is first
0 likesHave they read him his rights?
0 likesEvan Gelos good call
0 likesDon’t kill people. LOL. Yes.
0 likesNono if you definitely killed someone please don’t lawyer up you’ll be fine.
0 likesdvergur the fact of the matter is things are not always as they seem. There is no such thing as 100% proving anything. You’re innocent until proven guilty. Lawyers are not unethical because they defend these type of people. They are ethical because they are suppose to set aside bias and argue the best for their client. This is one way to ensure some level of fairness in the judicial system. However I understand your reservation.
0 likesAnd Dont Share Needles
0 likeswhat if my lawyer is really good tho
0 likesIn that order.
0 likeswell if you want the police on your side then from my understanding they find it super annoying when people do this, especially if it's urgent. but hey thats, just my opinion, my personal opinion. Thanks for reading!
0 likesSolid advice
0 likesAlso don't kill anyone without your lawyer...or don't kill anyone unless you're a lawyer...and don't kill anyone unless they're a lawyer.
1 likeThe last part is very important 💀💀
0 likesRepetition Repetition Repetition Repetition dude are you "punk rock in the wrong hands"? i see you on every skramz/emo/hc video ever, what are the odds i see you here😂😂
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesand even if the detectives say you have to answer this question just stay there emotionless and silent and ask for lawyer.
2 likes@D M T consent to what?
0 likes@MetaL BraiN \m/Extreme Metal Enthusiast \m/ i love the sarcasm at the end
0 likesHe should the suspect should have been given an award for Croc Tears Of The Year , Yep Sure Should Have.
0 likesHe just didn’t realize that it was an interrogation they caught him completely off guard his too engrossed in his anxiety to realize what’s going on
2 likesRiiiight just 2 simple rules
0 likescops are not your friends. lawyers are if you pay them alot of money
1 likeAlso.. always talk without your lawyer unless you are innocent.
0 likes@Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition unless you are guilty.. then talk away!!
0 likes@whistle yup true story my cousin is facing 2nd degree murder charges for someone that actually last seen alive by the merced county sheriff's and the prosecutor and the "new" judge that was assigned to the trial due to the first judge that was gonna throw out the case due to the fact that the Google info from GPS was manipulated by the prosecutor to look like my cousin was in the vicinity of her body but more accurate GPS subpoenaed by his defense show he was never actually near the body then the coroner couldn't even determine how she died or if it was even a homicide ( she was found in a canal after 1 year almost ) so they get the new judge they tacked on a new charge of using a explosive device to destroy evidence just purely on speculation and no actual evidence. So my cousin has been incarcerated for 3 years now fighting the charges.
1 like@Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition but for sure dont strangle your ex
0 likesHold up, which one is more important?
0 likesWrong order
0 likesSometimes you have to kill
0 likesPeople can be so annoying
Ah thats not how it works they wont let you...
0 likesJust don’t kill people. The fact you put that second is disturbing.
0 likesIt’s funny how you have to include that last part in order to make sense of your comment. I seen one similar on the Christopher Watts case and felt disgusted by it. Whether you like it or not the morale of these videos are to teach students who are learning criminal justice in matters to learn how humans react under pressure and how to use that against them in the court of law. The fact that you have to state that a lawyer being present will solve the situation, indicates you have no respect for the family of the victim, and now I view you as someone who has no respect for humanity in general. The only reason you had the lawyer part included in your response, means that if you have a good lawyer you can get away with anything. Not true. I hope your crimes catch up to you sir.
2 likesBut definitely the first part whether or not you did it.
0 likesDon't taking drugs too
0 likesValid
0 likespreferably read the second half of this comment first.
1 like@DogeLife nah. Never talk to the cops without a lawyer
0 likes7
0 likesI agree
0 likesAnd dont shock people like a sicko
0 likesHow about don’t kill anyone..... forget about lawyers they are about to defend this man you kidding me
0 likeswait, which one?
0 likesWhy defend the indefensible ?!!!!!
0 likespretty solid advice
0 likesDon't kill people should be first.
0 likesI think you're second rule should be listed first.
0 likesBoth of your points are good advice
0 likes@Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition I think the latter was better but this is also great advice
0 likesRight on both counts.
0 likes@dietdrpepper15 Casey Anthony got off because her Dad was a cop and she knew better than to talk to cops.
0 likesBest comment 😂
0 likesthats about the best set of advice I've ever heard.
0 likesif you kill people, remember to talk with your lawyer before police officers etc XD lol.
0 likesWhy do people even reach the point of killing? ...
@Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition converge profile pic?
0 likes@Max Towers 🤣🤣
1 likeNever talk to the police. Innocent or not, talking to them can only hurt you. Your statements are for potential use AGAINST you, not for your benefit. Lots of innocent people have been put in jail because they believed their innocence would protect them.
1 like@Tom I think we should encourage murderers to talk without their lawyer
0 likesCHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ I mean, not really. Sometimes the wrong people are arrested. Even if you innocent you should still get a lawyer before you talk to the police.
0 likes👍 excellent advice.
0 likesDon't kill anyone and don't talk without a lawyer.
Even if you didn't kill anyone don't talk without a lawyer.
Truth!
0 likesdbl czech
0 likes@Danny H
0 likesthats 1of the tricks!
Good point
0 likes@Tom Yep.
0 likesWhy would you need a lawyer if you act right?
1 like@Will Yep. That's kinda the point I think.
0 likesEven then get you a lawyer
0 likes@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ Also try not to walk down the street while black
0 likesI am glad he spoke without a lawyer. People like him need to not be defended. Lock him up and throw the keys away. Animals should not be living among us freely!
2 likesLife wisdom lvl 1000
0 likes@Upper Left Coast Chelsea Fan r//thathappened
0 likesHmmmm 🤔
0 likesNever talk at all. Your lawyer would advice you to not talk.
1 likeOkay well you can’t expect us to do both.
0 likesEven if your are innocent as all hell, don't talk to police without a lawyer. That's what cops tell their kids. Even on a traffic stop. Give name and address only.
1 likeBruh.
0 likesThe police are not your friends and thousands of innocent ppl are in prison.
0 likesactually just dont talk at all. if they had enough evidence police doesnt even talk to the suspect, so why give them ammounition against yourself.
0 likesYes. I live by this advice. 🤪
0 likes@The Bringer of Salt this is fucked but I got a good chuckle outta it so thanks lol
0 likesTalking without your lawyer, even if you're innocent, is idiotic. You could accidentally implicate yourself, misspeak, or misremember something, and put yourself in hot water. You could lose weeks or more of work, lose your job, miss rent or bills, etc etc.
1 likeI killed my lawyer and have been telling everyone about it...am I doing something wrong?
0 likesGreat advice Einstein
0 likesOh well postponed because of the COVID-19
0 likes@dvergur Kkk
0 likes@Rick Mann I have managed to make it almost 40 years without needing to kill anyone, pretty easy so far.
0 likes@Danny H That's irrelevant. The reason to call an attorney is simply because the police are asking him questions. It doesn't matter if he was arrested or not. NEVER talk to the police without a lawyer no matter how innocent you are. There is no benefit to doing such a risky thing.
1 like@America Marie False. You always need a lawyer when talking to the police. It doesn't matter how innocent you are when you are one wrong word or misremembering of an event away from being the main suspect or put in prison. There is nothing wrong or suspicious about lawyering up right away. Stop trying to get innocent people arrested just so you have an easier time.
1 like@Spongebob0911 Shame the world and the justice system doesn't work like this in real life.
0 likes@whistle Christopher probably doesn't believe in conspiracy haha cops are good people just like the government
0 likes@BA_300_AAC Almost 40...you're nearing the point.
0 likesStay strong for the next several years, if somehow you manage to make it to almost 50 with the same response....Well then, you sir/madam, are a special breed.
Thou shalt be commended.
I’m confused, did you say; never kill your layer without talking to him ?
0 likesAnd if you do kill someone, you should talk without your lawyer present. Thanks.
0 likesIm wondering, should you get a lawyer if you’re a suspect but innocent?
0 likesI got 30.000! * blushes * Sorry its my first time
1 likeNever trust people that seem charming or charismatic.
2 likes@Ariana Grande Exactly.
0 likesInstruction not clear. Had an affair with cops and killed my lawyer.
0 likes@Mike Watts I've learned to just not trust everyone equally. lol
1 like@J Mart Lol, yeah same here, I get extra suspicious when they are charismatic.
1 like@Mike Watts I guess that spells the end of actual charm and charisma.
0 likesthe police are allowed to trick and/or lie during an investigation. it's all fair to catch a murderer. the suspect told the previous investigator she had left his car. they had footage she didn't exit his car and called him back under false pretenses. when the previous interrogator returned to question him, that was then he needed to ask for a lawyer. the only crying was for his own life.
0 likesOh shit i just basically said this same thing
0 likes@whynottalklikeapirat Beware of the charmer.
0 likes@Mike Watts Beware of tunnel-vision
0 likes@whynottalklikeapirat I agree with that.
0 likes@Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition I repeat this comment by the Repeater lol jk.....
0 likesAnd defiinitely don't believe this channel considering no sources. Ever.
0 likesExactly what I said before I saw your comment. Anything you say CAN and WILL be used against you.
0 likesI think this has the most likes I've ever seen on a comment. Such solid advice!
0 likesim fine with doing that first part.. the second part is where i have trouble.
0 likesMy first thought when he was arrested was why didn't he demand a lawyer? My second thought, after a few minutes of the interrogation, was that there's probably a correlation between stupidity and committing crimes. Then the boiling anger set in. How dare he think that it was a good idea to kill that girl? Why is it that some people think that it's OK for them to kill someone?
0 likes@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ I've heard different versions of this. Don't hurt anyone and treat everyone as you would like to be treated is one that sticks in my mind.
0 likesWe see these dangerous people on this channel and on the TV news, but most of the people I've met over the last 70 or so years have been fine and honourable.
@roadie3124 im sure most people who know it's wrong, they just dont care, and think the benefits outweigh the morals of it
0 likes@Cheyne Smith If we don't follow the Rule of Law, then we become lawless savages like the Chinese Communist Party.
0 likes@roadie3124 yeah true, but if people don't ask for one and especially people like this then who gives a shit.
0 likeswhy are you giving advice to criminals to not talk.
0 likesyeah and if you're not under arrest then you can leave at any time. That's another thing that people seem to forget
0 likesPrio your order mate
0 likesimpostors be like. "Oh fuck"
0 likesFemale Investigator crying like a Pregnant Nun
0 likesExcellent advice!!!
0 likes@Fuad Kattan It's the law.
0 likes@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ doesn't matter if you talk to police and they want to solve a case. Don't talk to police. Period.
0 likes@Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition 6
0 likes@Louis E Tbh unless we've been in such a situation none of us know what we would do or be like. The emotional stress of the situation must be unimaginable.
0 likesI would respond further to this comment, but after reading the first sentence I decided to contact my lawyer first.
0 likes@Thejonez You had your lawyer with you when you wrote that?
0 likesDon't get caught on camera abducting some girl to save your restaurant job
0 likes@The Bringer of Salt There are too many damn people, true enough...But murderers are useless: even the most conscientious serial killer is never going to make a dent in the population figures. A rapidly mutating virus, which spreads easily, doesn't bring on symptoms straight away or is often asymptomatic, and is fatal in incrementally more cases, that might work. Especially if the fear of infection leads to fewer and fewer occasions of men and women having sex.
0 likes@America Marie why would lawyering up be a mistake?
0 likesAnd all police and prosecutors want is to shut a case and they will stick it to the person they have their best chance to win against be it guilty or not, there are countless examples of police confusing innocent ppl. Getting a lawyer is the best thing an innocent person can do, a guilty person had the time to think of an alibi and how to distance himself from the crime, on an innocent person the police will keep steering them into getting close to the crime, and with the self confidence of being innocent ppl will walk right into their traps
@UncleEarl97 lawyering up doesn't make the cops go after you harder, quiet the contrary, nor does it make you look guilty in anyway. No judge or jury can use the fact that you asked for a lawyer or invoked the 5th amendment against you. And friends who are cops have told me that they loose any hope of getting a confession/incriminatory statement as soon as a suspect asks for a lawyer
0 likes@Penetrator X what would you do if you were arrested for murder if you were actually innocent?
0 likesok so the smart thing to do if you are guilty or innocent would be to ask for a lawyer as soon as you hear “you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law, you have the right to an attorney, if you cannot afford an attorney one will be appointed to you at no charge. Do you understand these rights? Yes I understand and no I do not want to speak without my lawyer. Innocent people think they will look guilty if they ask for an attorney and guilty people think they look innocent if they speak without their lawyer. I don’t care I want my attorney either way!
0 likesWhat if you killed your lawyer?
0 likesNever talk. Period. With or without a lawyer. My first advice to any client is not open your mouth until your lawyer gets to know the evidence they have against you.
0 likes@Mike Schwinn I am actually a lawyer, with 26 years experience as a defense attorney......also as public defender (BTW public defenders do NOT work for the government).
0 likesI guess you can tell I do know for a fact what I am talking about
I think you should have said dont kill people first
0 likes@Mike Schwinn I get your point, and I am sorry for your experience and the time served....but to be clear.....being paid by the government does not mean at all that the public defender does work for or in the side of the government. Our deontological obligation is to defend the interest of the client, with the maximum effort possible, regardless of who pays his/her fees.
0 likesHere in Spain, and in most of Europe, there is no specific body of public defenders like you guys have in the US.....instead of that, we have a different system: It is a voluntary and kind of a social work that us private lawyers do, we get paid by our bar association (who gets its funds from the state), and they pay us only around 5% or 10% of the usual fees of a private client.
As I said, we take it as a social work, because it is not worthy in financial terms.
But anyway, as I said in my previous comment, my first advice to any private or public detainee/client is to not speak with the police, not until his lawyer (me) gets to see the evidence they have against him......You have the right to do that, here, and in the USA.
Police ofiicers often do the trick/technique of giving you a false impression that cooperation with them might help you out of trouble......it is not true. The judge/court is the one who decides that.
Take care man !!!!
thanks for the tips 👌💯😹
0 likes*unless it's literally you or them.
0 likesOk, wait let me get this straight. Don't kill anyone..?
0 likes@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ don't kill alone? *
0 likesI can't make promises on either one, sorry. =[
0 likes@p 🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition don’t talk without your lawyer is actually better advise how hilarious
0 likesya
0 likesNo killing people = no need for lawyer. Easyyyyy
0 likesGood advice
0 likes"Don't kill" should have come first.
0 likesOh yeah, it is scary how many people have been imprisoned for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.
0 likes@Nolan Booblackie Sometimes you need a lawyer even if you haven't killed anyone.
0 likesInstructions unclear. Mentioned lawyer 20 times in 1 minute, and killed 37 people.
0 likesDo the crime then be a man and take the time. A lawyer would say “say nothing at all, not one word” and then what?? A killer has better chances for going back on the streets and kill again.. Hell no.
0 likesWould u give the advice of never talk without your lawyer if that was your little girl that he he jus broke her neck and killed her in his car? I bet your advice would change if it was Your Child Murdered! Yea great advice!! A young girl is dead before her time...
0 likesViolence and stealing isn't a good thing either. It's frowned upon in society!
0 likes@Michee Gio lol
0 likesi dont care if im in there for stealing a candy bar im calling my lawyer
0 likesEvans primary goal in life is to keep murderers from going to jail
1 like@Brainglow_LightBright I hope and pray you don’t give that advice to someone who has murdered someone in your family and I pray that never happens! LOL that
0 likes@Michee Gio don’t lie, you looked up the definition of procreate
0 likesBe excellent to each other.
0 likesIf you commuted murder then I don’t lament not getting a lawyer.
0 likesTalk without your lawyer if you're guilty.
0 likesI like you said, never talk without lawyer before saying, dont kill People
0 likesAlso if you're going to kill someone , make sure you don't know them. Gets you everytime
0 likesYou would think that's common sense.
0 likesHey if these people talked with lawyers he wouldn’t be making a video about their case
0 likesLol thanks for making me giggle I really needed that since watching programs. Think I’ll check out the cartoon channel
0 likesHow about don't kill people FIRST ...and hopefully you don't need the other piece of advice. Jesus, people.
0 likes....... without your lawyer
0 likesThe more you know.
0 likesMost importantly don't do drugs. It impairs your judgement.
0 likesI never understood why clients just couldn't stfu and say "lawyer".
0 likesTwo good points
0 likesBut mainly just dont kill people
0 likes@Danny H if the police are questioning you for any reason, innocent or guilty, call a lawyer. Period. I've seen too many Amanda Knox stories.
0 likesDon't kill people, I think this is the only advice
0 likeswhy do none of these people ask for lawyers? Jeff even asked for a lawyer
0 likesIf you want a lawyer, everyone would definitely know that something Is off.
0 likes@CHRISTOPHER SHIVERZ sometimes all you have to do is be in the wrong place at the wrong time to be framed for something. Happens all the time.
0 likesFacts literally half of these videos are nullified if they just ask for a lawyer
0 likes.... maybe should just stick with the don't kill ppl part. But true if you haven't done anything wrong don't speak without your lawyer.
0 likesBoth very good points😂
0 likesHe would of gotton caught anyway.
0 likesSpoilers! Im at 12 minutes!
0 likesWhy do so many people commit murder in the US? It's clearly so horrible what happens to you when caught that it should put 'casuals' like Rodarte off.
1 likeI’m surprise how many people don’t request a lawyer
0 likesRegardless if you didn't commit the crime don't talk without a lawyer
0 likesLmao ok
0 likesFricking genius
0 likesHahaha
0 likesLet's just swap them: "Don't kill people. Also, never talk without your lawyer"
0 likes@axe863 just pull a turkey and deny it the rest of your life
0 likesIt's not that hard people!
0 likes@Jenn underrrated comment. Thank you sir
0 likesDon’t kill people. Leave it at that. Promoting lack of responsibility sucks.
0 likesYou should change this comment to "I edited this comment so now you'll never know what got so many likes!!! BWAHAHAHA!!!"
0 likesLove how JCS includes “probably not the best advertisement for the bonefish grill that the chefs are peeling their scabs off at work” 🤣 deadpan delivery is gold
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I laughed so hard at this 🤣
4 likesI ate there a couple years ago while on vacation in Florida. Weird to think this dude coulda cooked my food but I won’t lie that place is incredible 😂
4 likesI was like "that's not normal?"
1 likeThe little bits of dry humor in JCS' videos are the cherry on top of all the meticulous analysis of these crimes.
2 likesHope scabs are off the Bonefish menu now ...
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesSo, so much respect for this interrogator. He’s among the top interrogators I’ve ever seen. Literally everything he says or does was deliberate.
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She did a pretty good job as well, they are a good team
41 likes@Sansel City that’s very true. I was halfway through the video when I wrote the comment and she still didn’t talk but she was instrumental in the last half. Both of them are top notch interrogators.
45 likes@M’n’ Conquer its just good cop bad cop strategy
3 likes@Sansel City Not really. Their dynamic didn't work as well. They're lucky this guy wasn't a hard crack. The female interrogator tried the emotional route but it wasn't the best approach.
27 likes@Sansel City nah she got too emotional. As if the suspect is gonna be like “oh shit did you just say please? Alright i killed her”
21 likes@Sansel City what, the part where she was almost crying and screeching about her own kid? Unprofessional and didn't help.
16 likes@Phil McClenaghan You really think that was real? She was acting..
29 likesI think he's also on the first 48 but I could be wrong. I recognize his bow tie
0 likes@TonyDanza4Lyfe thanks. Any particular season?
1 like@M’n’ Conquer I'm actually wrong so ignore my comment. There's a dude on that show in Tulsa with the exact same hair, look and wardrobe down to the bow tie. It's not him though
4 likes@Phil McClenaghan It got him to confess though so I would say it was helpful. Interrogators use a variety of techniques to get confessions, some weirder than others
2 likes@TonyDanza4Lyfe lol thanks.. saved me from going on a wild goose hunt.
1 likeI just seen the part with the pleading from the female interrogator… that is genuinely the single most amazing piece of police work I’ve ever seen. They’ve seen the footage, they know there was a struggle. They’re playing ping pong with his emotions…no doubt her pleading would have put him back to that night “please, lee, please” his whole demeanour changed after that. Game, set and match. Don’t get me wrong clearly they both are a great team and it’s rehearsed to a T but look at the way she goes fully into it. Masterclass.
11 likes@Phil McClenaghan Not unprofessional at all, just an interrogation technique you probably haven’t witnessed before. It’s all an act at the end of the day, she probably doesn’t even have a kid. Interrogators spend a lot of time deliberating and putting together strategies, she didn’t just pull it out of her ass. There’s a lot of research that gets put into this, and many techniques that are used are based upon information acquired about the suspect and their personality
11 likes@Kilo Watt (Self proclaimed) Expert #1 enters the chat.
2 likes@Thomas C And the original comment didn't imply the same? It's a YouTube comment section mate, calm down 😂
0 likesThat woman detective sounds whiny and disingenuous.
0 likesThe female detectives technique is flawless. Her pleading and begging and saying his name would probably mirror the pleas of Savannah while he was attacking her, refreshing the memory in his mind.
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im pretty sure she just wanted him to say yes i did it and go back home to eat some dinner.
56 likesI feel like she showed her cards a little too quick… and gave out too many details that could’ve allowed him to rethink part of his story. She got the job done though.
74 likesRIP Savannah 😔
@A Shady Trap true but then again we all would be like that if we dealt with criminal cases every day
9 likesLmao the reach
5 likesShe's a lil annoying imo
54 likes@I'm Not Onii-chan halo reach
3 likes@J Dude, shut up. She's not an entertainer, nor the mans friend. She's a detective doing her job. Being "annoying" is a stupid thing to judge her on, especially since they got what they were after.
60 likes@J If a detective isn't annoying they're not doing their job properly.. Going over small irrelevent details, overthinking, asking to many questions, or in this case - begging for confession.
34 likesPolice work eh..
@Crawver Police shouting at you for a confession is the wrong way for a confession. an innocent subject could be scared into giving a wrongful confession or give wrong facts out of stress
11 likes@James Flaherty the chick literally started crying at one point. I'm not saying she's like the worst person in the world I'm saying that her professionalism is off. Jeeze, and I can find whoever I want annoying its not a crime lol
26 likes@Crawver wasn't really a judgment, just an observation. You can have professionalism even while interrogating a dirt bag ijs
8 likesI thought her technique was overdramatized a bit.
25 likes@Princess Kenny Same, hysterical almost. Far too desperate
22 likesKeep repeating the same question where is she where is she ,,,is that flawless lol
12 likesShe seemed very new to the job
9 likes@J I completely agree with you, actually the female detective is ruining the effort of her colleague who is making subtle progress while she just go "PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, I'M BEGGING YOU" lol, that's stupid, and the worst is that she never at any point made any friendly connections with the suspect so her saying "i'm begging you" is ridiculous and reveal that they are in desperate need of a confession.
24 likes@I'm Not Onii-chan Exactly, I think it is. Even JCS isn't commenting on her flawless performance.
2 likes@XXMARIOXX1998 this was my exact thought. She seems new & like someone else stated, her style of interrogation is annoying! IDGAF what any other smart azz has to say about it. It's my opinion, & apparently others agree. 💯
9 likes@J dude that was literally part of the strategy of getting him to confess.
5 likesYessss what got me upset is that guys feel more confident and comfortable talking with females and every time she almost had him the guy detective keeps stoping her midway or trying to take control of the situation. Don't kno if it was a tryna be in control situation . But she woulda had him more quicker
3 likesAh yes, the experts are all here.
12 likesfr
0 likes@Kavi Ramyead Its mind boggling that so many people are now experts on criminal psychology after watching some videos.
8 likesYou bunch act like you know better than experts with 20+ work field knowledge.
@BIGDAWG767 I was thinking that too, these comments are full of men who prefer to watch a certain kind of video with a certain type of male interviewer, but the reality is she didn’t hamper it, he was listening to her, and he responded to the duo and especially her by answering her so often when she asked a question compared to his response to the man. I think she was doing great and perhaps could have done it faster a few times too.
6 likes@J At 31:30 her line of questioning is what finally corners him so he begins answering in ways that aren’t just “I don’t know”. You can dislike her voice and call her annoying, but at the end of the day she did an inarguably great job and was a key part in gaining the confession so they could get him.
5 likesI actually thought the crying and begging was ineffective and unprofessional for a detective. 😅
7 likes@Elizabeth Ball well it's a good thing you're not a detective then. Doesn't sound like you'd have much success
4 likesI thought she was terrible. I was sure he was going to clam up after seeing how poorly acted that was.
3 likesu dont realize he slipped up because of the female interrogator. she softened him by crying and begging. it's a tactic that women use not only for the purpose of getting someone to admit something, but used to get other things out of males, and it is even exploited. however, in this case, it was used very well in getting him to admit what he did.
2 likesGood point
0 likesshe was terrible, you don't beg for a confession. even the male detective had to try interrupting her because it was going nowhere.
0 likesFor any viewers curious how the trial went --
152 likes"A Florida man has been sentenced to 40 years in prison for the murder of missing woman Savannah Gold in 2017. Lee Rodarte Jr., 31, received his sentence on Thursday, nearly three years after he was charged with killing Gold, with whom he worked at a Bonefish Grill in Mandarin"
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Wait, didn't he say he was concidered not guilty cause it was self defence?!
1 like@VictoriaRainShine Lee plead not guilty. Instead of admitting that he did it
11 likes@VictoriaRainShine He claimed self defense because it was his last chance to get away with it. He gave up too much information to be able to claim he didn't kill her. So he decided to attempt to claim that he killed her out of self defense in the heat of the moment.
6 likesAmazing how you can avoid all this hassle by NOT kidnapping and killing a girl for no reason
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😂😂😂
18 likesYou could... but that's not half as fun
115 likes@A YouTube Channel 😳
163 likeshe could just wait for a lawyer and lie saying that she left his house after having sex
70 likesYeah fufferfish. I prefer a hassle free life.
12 likesRiiight??😂😂
3 likesDude, all that admin
@TJ Murphy Well.. I mean.. wouldnt that be like defacing a corpse or sum
9 likes@A YouTube Channel You berk.
3 likesI was thinking 'Don't talk to the police, get a lawyer'
23 likesThen I realised 'just don't kill anyone' 😅
That aint easy to do tho
3 likesNow this dude will never get to experience Elden Ring tomorrow. That's why I don't kill ppl lol.
28 likesOh so THATS where I went wrong
3 likesI know! I don't get why so many people don't use that tactic instead of whatever this one is.
4 likes@Grape Juice but literally 80% of her body was injured … but he said he only broke her neck which makes no sense .. it was clearly more brutal
13 likes@Grape Juice I believe he won the lottery, she tried to carjack him using a rabid bat as a weapon and he was forced to burn her body to exorcise demons after the bat double crossed her. We will never know for sure but I’m putting all my eggs in that basket
23 likesShit, idk now. I wouldn’t exactly call a prestige position as Manager at Bonefish “No Reason”.
4 likesSome would scorch the earth for that kind of opportunity.
Like the movie 'Liar Liar' with Jim Carey. His secretary has a client on the phone seeking his legal advice after another arrest,- the guy is a multiple offender. Cary's character picks up the phone and says "STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!" ..and hangs up. Pure gold.
6 likesCan't argue with that I've never kidnapped and killed someone and this has never happened to me so your logic has grounds for approval.
1 likeSure, that's easy for you to say
1 likeThere was probably no kidnaping here
1 likeShe could have had him fired meeto style. Enough to make some guys snap. The vindictive nature of todays cancel culture society sure brings out the demon in people.
0 likesYour comment does not help someone who kidnapped and killed a girl for no reason. Reported for spam.
4 likes@ja er bahhahahah
1 like@ja er Your concept of spam is quite inaccurate. Suggest you do a google.
5 likesHA omg !
0 likes@Alex P yeah, I think it's a sympathetic response to the accused. After all, even though the cops are different, their role is the same. The accused typically shows more personality.
0 likesDid we ever find out why he did it though? It can't be just because she was going to tell everyone they hooked up and thus losing his job, he could have always found another job?
0 likesNever go full Rodarte
1 likeThe real parts come during that time when he was left alone. This here "Could have just told her to leave you(Lee) alone" tells me that despite having done what he has, he did it for some reason which he though was good enough to take her's life. Like someone who commits suicide, Lee probably got provoked to that point that he didn't see the reason for her to leave taking into account how much suffering he might have if she lives... But then he forgot the suffering he's going to endure for taking her life...
0 likesLife is interesting that, although reasoning can only work depending on the nature of the actions, sometimes we invite people that will turn us into beings we never though we were... at the end of the day, no reason is valid enough to kill anybody!
@Nacho Martinez full re~tarde
0 likesHe had a reason a stupid selfish heinous reason.
1 likeFollow this one simple trick to not go to jail today! Investigators HATE him!
2 likesJust don’t get caught 🙄
0 likesIt scares me that you implied it's normal to even consider doing that.
0 likesIt terrifies me that so many people seem to agree.
@Stocking he's not implying that at all. the statement is that if you don't want to get arrested for killing people then don't kill people. simple as.
0 likes@I Must Bust
0 likesIt means absolutely nothing then. Nobody can just decide to murder someone if they didn't want to do it anyway.
I know right…pretty easy stuff…
0 likes@Tyler Ruble well you convinced me. #freeleerodarte
0 likesDrop the kidnapping charge, she was dead so how you kidnap her?
0 likesIs every top comment on criminal interrogations just some sort of variation on this exact same thing?
0 likes@Jek yes
0 likesI had no idea you could do that your a genius
0 likes@Nicky Blue um tf
0 likesThese comments sound suspicious. As if you've been in that situation.
0 likesYou say this every video 😂
0 likesa Human* not just a girl, boys too (and others now i guess we have to say that.. for the 3000 genders)
0 likesRight lmaoooo
0 likesTRUE!
0 likes@Stocking It’s a normal thought and happens daily for a lot of people. Usually in passing or in jest, not really taken seriously but acknowledged as an option. A poor option, but an option. And people can kill if they didn’t want to, because the circumstances around the killing make it seem like a necessity. Wanting to for personal gratification and wanting to because it’s the only option you can see solving a particular problem are two different psychologies around it and the types of people who carry out such actions.
0 likesyes but sometimes it's hard to resist the temptation you know
0 likesDetectives don't want you to know this ONE trick
0 likes@Des Qua he probably thought that would make him more sus and he could've got out of this on his own
0 likes@A youtube channel fun???
1 like@A YouTube Channel oooooh got somebody real edgy and badass here 😂
0 likes@A YouTube Channel wow ur so edgy and cool
0 likesI love how he cries that he's gonna get killed in jail. Maybe...just maybe..you shouldn't have killed somebody else. I'm glad he realizes how bad the situation he put himself in is. I'm glad he feels such anguish. I /hope/ all the things he's telling himself are true and he's sad not just because he got caught, but because he realizes he took a life, so that nobody else has to suffer at his hands. He needs to feel the pain he caused his victim and her family.
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Agreed. I definately saw immediate remorse at the end when he said "I'm so sorry Savannah". Which was good to see considering so many maniacs don't even show remorse. He really does realised he fucked up bad. He must pay the penalty however and I'm very happy with a 40 year sentence. Best Wishes
13 likesNah
1 likeYeah ngl I hate all the comments that are being made such as "this guy's such a narcissist he's not sorry cause he killed her he's sorry cause he got caught and thinks crying will make people feel sorry for him." There's literally no reason to believe any of that. To me, he's clearly in a room by himself about to get royally screwed on life by his own fault, and he's realizing how dumb it was for him to make the decision to kill her for...whatever reason caused him to do it at the time. Then he's realizing how it was all for no reason and that he killed someone he didn't even have any real problems with from the sound of it ("The fuck were you thinking man? You're a real piece of shit. Savannah was nice to you...") and how awful it was for him to do that and now he has to live with it for the rest of his life ("you were supposed to fucking make something of your life" or whatever it was he said there).
13 likesSome of these people can't even watch the video and get what's going on at the end even when the narrator is telling us in plain language what's going on and what the underlying psychology of the situation is. All because they think they know sooo much with their degree from Cereal Box University lol.
@Jos Fielden Perhaps, but the way he was talking to himself with nobody else around made it sound like it was actually sinking in that he royally screwed up and took an innocent life. Like I said, I can only hope what he's saying is true because nobody but him really knows. He still needs to be punished 100%, but it would be good if he did feel remorse because he deserves to for what he did, and it would mean he may act like a decent human being in the future.
3 likesHe didnt say that he would be killed, he said he is gonna die in jail, implying that he thought hed get a life sentence. Big difference there.
3 likesIt’s just messed up the only ones that feel this anguish are the ones with a conscious in the first place
0 likes@Music Life he's not remorseful because he killed her. He's remorseful because he got caught and is scared for himself.
2 likes@The Vibe Zone " Remorse is a distressing emotion experienced by an individual who regrets actions which they have done in the past that they deem to be shameful, hurtful, or wrong. Remorse is closely allied to guilt and self-directed resentment"
1 likeTo me he displayed the total meaning of the word remorse. Still deserves to be punished for life however. You don't see many maniacs even display remorse which is really upsetting to me
@Music Life Yeah I guess but you can clearly see and hear he is only thinking of himself. " I was gonna make something of my life" "last time I get to wear a chef's jacket" etc. He didn't once say anything about Savannah or the life he took from her other than crocodile tears and "I'm sorry". Then he gets right back onto talking about himself.
1 like@The Vibe Zone He literally says " I'm so sorry Savannah". But yeah can't be bothered talking about this anymore. There is much bigger fish to fry in this chaotic world :)
1 likeBest Wishes
It’s insane how many people could easily get away with murder with one word “Lawyer”
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Kind of difficult when they have video evidence of him with her never leaving her car.. compounded by the fact he lied about the evidence. Circumstantial evidence still works you know
17 likes@Therealstinkgod It sounds like there was some evidence at his house, though, which is a location they clearly would have searched even if he requested a lawyer.
2 likes@Jonathan Gill true. I commented that before I finished the video. Bc of their relationship that the other employees leaked to the cops he was going to be closely looked at as a suspect no matter how well he did in the interrogation.
5 likes@Therealstinkgod I'm unsure of this, but I thought you still need to answer the detectives questions even if you have a lawyer. They mostly just overview and sustain unnecessary questions
2 likes@Not Leoso yeah idk how the legal system works tbh. Just have always read and heard, “keep your mouth shut when cops ask questions, just say you want a lawyer”
2 likes@Not Leoso you have the right to remain silent.
1 likeAnd "money"
0 likes@Not Leoso you dont have to answer shit, They tell you dont speak without a lawyer because cops will ask u questions not involving the case but will help support their case IF you answer them. You can literality beat a murder case by not opening your mouth at all. The cops have to PROVE you committed a crime, u talking can slowly bring out evidence to support their allegations against you
0 likesCasey Anthony is always the person i think of when people say this.
1 likeI love how the lady detective tried to use emotions manipulating to increase his feelings towards the situation
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That's the only annoying part of this video. Most women are not qualified for this job because of this.
11 likes@Johanna but it worked
49 likes@Johanna You seemingly forgot that all of this is planned out and she was supposed to appeal to his emotions
59 likes@Johanna just stop.
21 likes@Johanna never speak again. Just don’t.
20 likes@Johanna Except that whe planned this and it is part of why they got him to confess.
9 likes@Johanna If a man acts emotional, nobody says 'thats why man are not fit for the job'
13 likesBut god beware, if a woman does an emotional act, people like Johanna talk like self proclaimed experts on this field.
I sense hidden misogynism behind these posts.
@Johanna ew do you just not like women?
3 likes@Johanna love how u gotta throw a little sexism in there
9 likesShe whas akward
2 likesI thought she was really really misqualified and annoying but actually... sure, whatever might work I guess.
2 likes@Kitty Kat definitely didn’t like his/her whoever comment because I think she did her job gr8
1 like@Rullisi lol sad
1 likeDetective: "How long have you known Savannah?"
34 likesLee: "According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think."
"All that police could ascertain is that he had short brown hair and was roughly 5"11."
7717 likesLooking at the camera footage, I'm surprised they could tell a human committed the crime.
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😂😂😂
66 likes😂😂😂
23 likesLmaooo
12 likes🤣🤣
2 likesUnderrated, lol
12 likesRight? Looked like Bigfoot to me, lol
149 likesFrom the footage, they gathered that the suspect had either brown, dark blonde, maroon, or bright red hair and was anywhere from 5'2" to 6'3" and weighed about 100-400 lbs.
359 likes😂😂😂
2 likes@Miguel Garcia The suspect was likely a primate, specifically a great ape, but we cannot rule out the possibility of a bipedal alligator, a large dog, a small bear a bald eagle wearing a cape, or five koalas stacked on top of each other.
388 likesThe aliens framed him
34 likesDidn’t they say they didn’t show all the angles though? 🤔🤷🏽♂️
18 likes@Alien Platypus bipedal alligator🤣🤣
16 likes@Alien Platypus Five koalas most likely, they later split up in order to frame the suspect.
42 likes@ultima9 Close....T'was a Squatch
12 likesThey secretly have enhance
6 likesCompared to that CCTV footage the Bigfoot video is 4k HD
7 likes@ultima9 there's clearer footage of Bigfoot tbh lmao
14 likes@Alien Platypus the footage also revealed that the suspect was fluent in Portuguese
13 likespropably zoomed in on the footage and found 2 light brown pixels
4 likesDammit Bigfoot!
1 likeAnd 5’11”, not 6’ that one inch was evidently clearly visible
4 likes@ultima9 big foot?? Lol
0 likesYeah and at 4:04, that does not look like any year of Chevy Malibu. The grill is wrong even blurry. Looks like a Toyota or something
1 likePretty sure the cctv footage has better quality than what they've released in public. And youtube compress the quality of the video.
2 likes@Ocean Waves i was also thinking they probably made it look worse because they seem to want to keep a lot of things in this case hidden from public view
1 likeI love the comments, but it was mentioned that police haven't released the footage, rather a detailed description
3 likes"Zoom and enhance."
1 likeYou didn't see the freckle under his right ear?
4 likesI know! I thought it was that dern BIG FOOT! Not Big Mike Sasquatch, the fuzzy film Big Foot!
0 likesThey are letting him burry himself
0 likes@Miguel Garcia I loved that episode 😭
0 likesLol.
0 likesDude likes to hear himself talk .Holy Geeeeeez.
0 likes"All police could ascertain is that he had short brown hair and was possibly bigfoots cousin."
0 likesMaybe the police used the "ZOOM IN" and "ENHANCE" methods
1 likeLmao
0 likesRIGHT i was thinking the same
0 likesMobile phones camera are getting more and more HD but the CCTV is still a disgusting quality.
0 likesthat wasnt a human on the camera footage, that was Mr. Game and Watch bro 💀
0 likes@Catu Musashi this got me too🤣...and the bald eagle wearing a cape is a great image too. 😂🤣
0 likes@KingKodiakBear enhance.........................................................,.........
0 likesENHAAAANCE
Looollll
0 likesyeah wtf it should be mandatory to have better detailed cameras. cheap ass property owners and local governments smh. think about how many crimes would be solved without all this hassle if there was just better cameras everywhere.
0 likesHow did he not know there was a camera watching him there when he was the manager... He should know there's footage of the whole thing his car her getting into the car the struggle getting out slashing a tire??? I don't really understand why he did that but most importantly his alibi of her getting into a truck and riding off is lies right at the beginning of the interrogation he screwed himself
0 likesI thought it was Bigfoot
0 likesthe footage becomes a viral video like "GIRL DISAPPEARS AND THIS CREATURE TOOK HER????? (GONE WRONG)"
0 likesImagine murdering someone, having a mental breakdown, and during this breakdown blaming the victim. Oh yeah, buddy, you deserve this. Every. Minute.
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Yeah this dude is gone. I had the same thoughts.
0 likesIf he would have just gotten a lawyer from the beginning . And just planned his actions a little better, he might have been able to get away with murder. Which is scary to think about.
3 likesI watch interrogations/true crime videos here on YT daily. When I discovered JCS a year ago I was legitimately sad when I had finished all of the content available here. So much so that I’ve gone back and re-watched several, this one included.
9 likesI’m so bummed that he is no longer posting. I’ve heard YT is preventing him from doing so? Not sure. If anyone has any insight let me know.
You’re the best at what you do, JCS! U have a huge fan base and deserve every single one of us. Thank you for the thorough, intriguing content!
Im so disappointed that there are no more videos on here. These are so informative and educational on a whole other level. Miss you JCS.
5 likesI just discovered this channel the other day. I have learned:
4801 likes-a lot about criminal psychology
-lots of wonky stuff happens in Florida
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Surprised you had to find thia channel to figure out the second thing
163 likesDefinitely move to Wisconsin.
8 likesI believe Florida has a pretty loose FOIA rules which makes it much easier for channels like this to get video.
73 likes@daren that's the reason. Also explains "Florida Man".
64 likesI think all the cocaine changed the DNA of Florida.
29 likesFlorida is L I T😆
13 likesesp the wonky stuff happening in florida.
2 likesCanada too, eh?.. those guys are nuts😆
5 likesFrom my experience living in the heart of south beach, fl for 6 months I’ve noticed the sun has some unexpected influence or erratic changes in behavior in most hpeople.. especially people who are homeless. They are a different breed of “crazy”. It’s literally like when you hear the sound over and over enough it makes you go insane.. yeah well these people become bonkers not like the usual homeless, sick, or drug addicted that I’ve seen in New York but fueled with an uncontrollable rage that I suspect is caused from the side effects of prolonged HEAT exposure but what do I know this is just my theory. What do you guys think?
13 likes@Paul Hunter i think drugs and mental illness are the leading causes of homelessness. But Ive never seen a Florida psycho homeless person so I dunno. I live in ATL, amd they do seem to be more agitated in the summer and more aggressive. But chill all other times of year
6 likesCops lie a lot and they know so much
1 likeLiterally
1 likeSurprised you haven't learned the greatest lesson yet, NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE WITHOUT A LAWYER!
6 likesAnd most importantly never talk to police without a lawyer!
3 likes@Thomas Skala lol kid chocolate 😂
1 like@daren what is FOIA?
1 like@Gisselle Perez Freedom of information Act.
5 likesYou forgot one:
2 likes- Everyone pleads stand your ground in FL
this is the second video in my county... super weird
2 likesYou forget another roping. Don't talk unless you have a lawyer wether your innocent or not.
1 like@deenibeeniable fam Wisconsin got some weirdos too 😂
2 likes@Flash Bang YES.
1 like@Mano Erina Fan Channel New Yawk.
1 like@daren
1 likeWhat's FOIA? Great point, it would appear that Florida us more transparent but then also deemed as
Deemed as more savage. I live in Florida
1 likeI discovered almost a year ago and I prefer this to most criminal shows on cable.
3 likes@sixstringman
0 likes0
Oklahoma's trying to catch up to the ranks of Florida.
2 likesMaybe it's maybelline... maybe it's meth. 🧐
Florida man arrested for drinking two Lokos while injecting Botox without a license
2 likesYou haven't really learned anything other than one dudes random opinions pulled out of his crank hole
1 likeMe, too. I don’t know why the channel popped up on my feed, but it’s been really intriguing and informative.
1 likeNews : Florida man urinates on fellow passenger for not being allowed to smoke
1 likeFloridans man
1 likeYes Florida is known for craziness
1 likeAll you need to know...'Florida man'.
0 likesSure glad my family got outta Jacksonville when I was 8.
0 likes@Ctruth lyfe FOIA is “Freedom of Information Act.” Whereby individuals not involved in a case can request the evidence used. Hence the police footage seen here.
1 like@Sasha Toao the reason there are less crazy homeless are cuz the florida zombies eating people's faces. 😆
0 likesI've lived in Florida my whole 51 years and your absolutely right.
0 likes@Paul Hunter Hi PDK, I'm from Australia (Victoria), but I have spent sometime in NT (Northern Territory). And I agree, the sun/heat/humidity has something to do with people going off the rails. In the northern part of Australia, they call it "Going Troppo" , or "Gone Troppo". Which means Tropical Madness.
1 likeIt's a slang term, but (as guessed) means the heat has gone to your head.
I'm not doctor, but I understand that having extended periods of sun/heat/humidity hitting my head, day in day out. And lowering the levels of fluid in my brain, "MAY" effect someone's judgement from time to time.
Mix and drugs, alcohol and mental illness, and you have a cocktail of craziness.
We can call it "Florida Man", or "Going Troppo" or any other term. I think it pretty much means the something.
Fun fact: I got heat stroke in my first week in Darwin. I was vomiting for days.
Lol
0 likesFlorida is not for faint of heart, or people who expect to be respected. You gotta earn it down here, but when you do, we're alright. Been here my whole life.
1 like@daren 100% true lmwo
1 likeLmao YES
0 likesThe Florida thing😂😂😂
Reddit has already taught me that long time ago
1 likeI think a lot wonky stuff happens everywhere, not just Florida. I think it feels like we only hear about these stories in Florida specifically and not other places because of differing laws. My friend who lives in Florida told me about it once. If I remember correctly, Florida's laws are a lot less strict so a lot of stories from Florida get revealed. Where as in other places, the stories are kept more on the down low because the laws are more strict. But yeah I think that is why it feels like more crazy shit happens in Florida when compared to anywhere else but I don't really think that is the case. I don't remember which laws differ specifically but that is pretty much the jist of it.
1 likeflordia man gonna flordia man
0 likes@christian 100% scientifically proven 👆🏻
0 likesThey were romantically involved on and off for 8 months, a regular guy who, as far as we can possibly tell, never killed anyone before in almost 30 years of life, could have done it a thousand times between when he first met her, and the day he killed her. What was it that made him commit such a horrible crime in that dagon where they couldn't even identify the exact fatal injury. It baffles me. You must think you know someone so well after 8 months of being more than friends, and then that happens. I mean what the hell?
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Thats why i always think its sus when a younger person dates someone waaay older then them 21 and 30 is a big jump in age
8 likesMay have been an abusive relationship
1 likeIt's amazing to watch someone talk their way into a prison cell!!
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He should yell AMONGUS while in jail
3 likesI have been interrogated before for something I did not do, and ill tell you that straight away the detective that conducted the interrogation was extremely hostile and it made me see him as a threat, was the first and only time i got interrogated. Also one of the most uncomfortable situations ive ever been in.
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Yeah it's all well and good when they're right...Until you realize they do the exact same routines for people later proven innocent.
15 likesSadly, at the end of the day, their job is to get a prosecution no matter what. Just like it's a defense lawyer's job to defend someone, even if they know they did it.
Can you get a lawyer before being interrogted ? If so, even if it was just an accusation, it would be better to be safe than sorry. I don't think every investigator is capable enough
0 likes@Yujin You can. But I didnt do anything. And i thought it eould be fine without one
0 likes@TheTuttle99 Its not okay to do some of the things they do even when they are right.
1 like@Cole Pearson you should watch another one of JCS's videos called "Guilty until proven innocent".
0 likes@U・ᴥ・U I have! Ive watched all JCS videos.
0 likes@Cole Pearson I didn't do anything. That's what they all say. And all of them lie, always.
0 likes@Robert Schnobert Thats why i didnt get convicted and the actual person who did it, Did? Gtfo here
2 likesAt 34:35 I think he actually says “My mom’s gonna die while I’m in jail,” lamenting on how he won’t be able to be there for her during her final moments for when she inevitably passes on way before Lee does. I can’t imagine the devastation that realization brings, but the dude has already made his bed.
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My heart bleeds for him
1 likeThe Vibe Zone, he’s clearly sarcastic.
0 likesJust so everybody knows, this guy was sentenced to 40 years about two weeks ago.
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so he could be eligible for parole? starting when? after how many actual served years? somehow mutilation of a body after murdering it makes it a little clearer that he should stay in prison 4 ever. dontchathink?
321 likesPoor guy. I feel sorry for him.
90 likes@MrFairworld We know its you Lee lol
609 likes@Patrick Wilson you make it all worth while for trolls .... get a grip control yourself lol
51 likes@Patrick Wilson he is a bad person but bad people are not born overnight unless they are sheer sociopaths. It is not unreasonable to feel pity for another human being with hindsight into their actions. The idiot really could have just left her alone but now he will rot, it is not a happy ending for anyone really.
272 likesWhoa, only 40 years?
139 likes@Eh Boy They are probably just to young to understand that
57 likesThank god
2 likesAre you his son? Yall look alike.
0 likesGood for us!!
3 likesWhy not life?
26 likesMan I want to see the trial! Or did he plea?
2 likes@Nolan Booblackie Not true at all. Especially with convicted murderers. Some felons get granted parole and can serve maybe %80 of there sentence. But lots of facts go into this, what the state laws are, how was the person while serving time, did they goto school? Stay out of trouble? But to say that they only serve half the time is not true. It’s also depends on if they have time served before sentencing.
11 likes@Dustpipe well yeah if they are denied parole and then are able to try again it’s gonna be more than half the sentence.
2 likes@Nolan Booblackie Canada is 10x worse. Look up Bernardo and Karla. I'll let you look into the evil they committed but suffice it to say the two of them are widely considered perhaps the most cold blooded killers in Canada's recorded history. Karla served less than 10 years and can be seen these days hanging around grammar schools...and she is allowed to.
27 likesFunny enough. I see your comment two weeks after you published it .
1 likeNot enough.
6 likesProof or it never happened
0 likes@hampa don't condescend, you're not wise yourself.
8 likes@Corrie Thomson literally what the guy wrote is the definition of being wise, saying someone is too young to understand is far from being condescending, don't try to sound smart if your not. Just read what the guy wrote.
10 likesGood
1 like@Nolan Booblackie You're right , 50% time served is a reasonable average for a rule of thumb. Infuriating.
1 likeSome of you guys are really defending this monster 🥴🥴
25 likes@Eh Boy It's pretty unreasonable to feel pity for someone who committed such a heinous crime against an innocent girl for no other reason than self preservation. What is there to feel pity for? A murderer getting sentenced for committing a murder. How sad...
31 likes@hampa "don't try to sound smart if your not" He says while making one of the most ironic grammar mistakes ever. If you're gonna be condescending, at least make sure you don't make yourself sound stupid in the process. Just sayin'.
20 likes@OliveBranch you're devoid of humanity then. Even the most vile nazis could be humanized in certain aspects otherwise people wouldn't make up conspiracy theories to exonerate them. It is human to find empathy for others even if they aren't good people. I'm not saying I feel bad I just understand how a drug abusing and mentally ill man can do this and how much hurt his family and everyone else around him must have felt. Going to jail doesn't bring back the girl, it just gives him time to think, learn, and earn forgiveness
19 likes@Eh Boy Humanizing monsters is devoid of humanity. You're misconstruing what the word empathy, humanity, and pity means. Making excuses and twisting reality in an attempt to see somebody as better or more deserving of compassion than they really are is not empathy. That's not what pity is. And that's not a sign of humanity. That's an active decision that you're making, in spite of the reality of the situation proving otherwise. Frankly, your opinions on this are more immoral than anything.
30 likes@Eh Boy People make up excuses to exonerate Nazis because they're Nazi sympathizers. They exonerate them because of the atrocities they committed, not in spite of them. Which, again, proves my point. That's sick. It's not human or normal to see Nazis and think "Oh, sure he did some bad things, but I'm sure he was a great brother." Not only is that insensitive and naive, but it's borderline sociopathic depending on the context.
26 likes@OliveBranch no human is a monster. It makes the actions of people who made mistakes as if they were not to blame, that they are just beyond morality, they are monsters. To dehumanize is the greatest disservice you can do yourself.
10 likes@OliveBranch the nazis were people. Bad people who did bad things, but people don't sympathize with them because they are just racist, of course they are, but they also see their own humanity and aspirations in these things. Just like with this man, I want to be a cook too, but I wouldn't kill someone to keep a job at a casual grill. He made a horrible and vile mistake, but he is not a monster. He is still human and that's why he goes to court instead of being summarily shot like in countries where they do dehumanize people, like chile's dehumanizing of leftists or Saudi Arabia's dehumanizing of lgbtq individuals. Not one person is a monster, we are all just complicated animals.
19 likes@Eh Boy Yeah, no. Doing something immoral is literally the definition of going beyond morality. A monster is "an inhumanly cruel or wicked person". The only way you couldn't consider this person a monster is if you believe that these actions are within the scope of what can be considered human or exhibiting humanity. And at that point, you're the one doing humans the disservice. It's not a grand moral gesture to ignore the existence of immorality. It just makes you seem dense.
22 likes@Eh Boy If you sympathize with Nazis, you are no better than a Nazi. Empathy and sympathy is relative. You aren't making a point by refusing to draw a line in the sand, all you're doing is making it very clear that you don't know or care to understand the severity of the actions you're talking about. Normal human behavior has distinctions based on a set of morals. If your whole philosophical conclusion is that there is no distinction, then you have no real set of morals. You're giving the same emapthy to a 30 year old violent Nazi that you would give to a 10 year old Jewish boy about to be sent to the slaughter. At that point, you're being a bad person.
19 likes@OliveBranch No. You completely misconstrued my words. I'm not giving the same empathy, I'm saying I see them all as human beings regardless of their crimes, because it was humans who committed these atrocities, not monsters. What of our own governments atrocities? This is the human condition that we must struggle to overcome, which is why it's important that we look at how those men got to the point where they sent millions to death, lest it repeat as it currently does around the world. Humans are not monsters, but they can do Horrifying things
27 likes@Eh Boy Biologically, yes, obviously they're human beings. But morally, they are monsters. By definition. Pitying them or giving them empathy is not the morally superior thing to do by any means. It's the exact opposite.
20 likes@OliveBranch they can be evil, but to be a monster too is to say they were a unique exception, so are all the perpetrators of violence infact monsters? Are the child soldiers in the Congo or Sudan monsters or wronged youth? What about soldiers in afghanistan who call in an airstrike on a Hospital? All these actions are morally irrepressible, yes, however these people must still be afforded the thought of being another person because how else will we investigate and analyze the totality of their actions?
12 likes@Eh Boy A child soldier being manipulated isn't the same thing as a grown man making a decision to murder innocent people. Morality is not a new or confusing concept. Like I said, empathy is relative and is meant to be assigned with distinction. It makes absolutely zero sense for you to claim that I'm "devoid of humanity" for asserting that a murderer going to jail for committing murder doesn't deserve pity. Yet, when someone commits a crime that was actually devoid of humanity, you claim that it's cruel to call them a monster, which literally means devoid of humanity. So, let me get this straight: It's wrong for others to question the humanity of murderers, but it's not wrong for you to question the humanity of the people holding those murderers to account. Makes perfect sense.
24 likes@OliveBranch it's not cruel, it's just not accurate. Either way you're getting upset over this so I think it's best to agree to disagree
3 likes@Eh Boy Lol in what way am I getting upset. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy in your moral grandstanding. If you're going to attempt to argue for a philosophical ideal, at least make sure you yourself are actually following it first.
19 likes@OliveBranch what hypocrisy??
3 likesI mean, I'm not denying that he is a monster, but apart from other murderers I've seen on this channel, I gotta say that you could see he had at least some emotions, mainly in the end. He was also lowkey smart and tried to hide it well. If it wasn't the videotape, I think he would have gotten out clean, which of course, is good that he didn't.
2 likes@Eh Boy The hypocrisy that I just pointed out in my last reply. Clearly, you didn't read my comment at all.
11 likes@Edith Boozy or they go to the way point Center here penetanguishene, for an all inclusive vacations with swimming pools tennis courts basketball.
1 like@MrFairworld Ex-fucking-scuse me!?
4 likesLawd killers should automatically get life no parole
4 likes@Gary West 2nd degree murder.
0 likes40 that's it?
3 likes@COVID-19 you can talk covid....
0 likes@OliveBranch this guy in the video is definitely not a monster, he made a mistake out of anger and fear and was probably building a shit ton of stress for a while before this. Look at his pictures, you can tell he’s not the type. (If you can’t, well I guess you lack being able to read people) there’s real monsters out there that you most likely defend because of your close mindedness.
15 likesThanks for spoiler Matt ! 🙄
0 likes@OliveBranch what do you expect him to just confess and go to jail for life?
1 likeWow some of y'all a really trippin. Why does everybody always want to fight or find a reason to argue with somebody? Wouldn't we all be happier we were all friendly?
13 likes@Po Al lol
0 likes@Wind Ummm yes??? He committed a violent murder against a young girl. If he really felt remorse, he would be more worried about giving her family closure and not dragging out a months long trial than he would be about getting consequences for his actions. The fuck?
16 likes@OliveBranch so you, if given the chance to get away with a life sentence would instead choose to rot in prison with a life sentence instead over a mistake?
13 likesBefore you answer, NO you wouldn’t. Your human you will act like any other human would in this situation.
Feel like that ain’t enough
3 likesBonefish grill is going down the tubes. What a damn shame.
2 likes@Lou Orlando Obviously he wouldn't, but that's because he would have a personal attachment to the case
0 likes@Jennifer Check I have been scrolling down and haven't seen a single comment defending him. Only people saying they feel bad for him.
6 likes@Mr Greenguy bruh that's what I'm saying, the fact they feel bad for him 🥴
3 likes@Abby Normal 40 years + time served.. happened in 2017. so give or take 2.5-3 years in prison.. he's still getting over 35 years. Still shit, but better than most considering case went fast. I don't see anything about parole in articles though..
2 likesOh for real? Nice update
0 likesThanks for the info. But 40 years isn’t near enough, especially considering all of the atrocities visited upon Savannah by this evil person.
11 likes@Abby Normal @Abby Normal I think that you should be imprisoned forever for "dontchathink".
0 likesHowever, indeed he should be thrown under the jail and forgotten about!
@Gary West The only reason I can think of was bc it was second degree murder?
0 likes@Cody Richey He will basically be an old decrepit man by the time he gets out.
1 likeDang he is probably gonna serve 30 and get out at 60 yr old
1 likeif he behaves.
Damn, I can't be a lead interogator, coz the moment them denying the allegations.. I go berserk and would punch them to a pulp!
3 likesIn another video on this channel a Mom kills 2 kids and gets 10 years with a chance of probation and he gets 40 years? Can anyone explain to me how these sentences happen? Not saying he doesn't deserve it but how are some people's sentences longer for less murderers
4 likesthank you sir
0 likes@COVID-19 ok... You win. Covid-19 saying sayonara to him 🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@matt parish I'm from the church of enlightenment. May I offer you a flower 🌼
0 likes...rem... You started this... 😇
Good
0 likes@Jonathan Whitaker pog
0 likesThanks for the update.
0 likesGood shit
0 likes@Patrick Wilson I know that’s the thing I was thinking. He fucking killed someone over his reputation at a goddamn Bonefish Grill. You can lose a job and get another one. I have had 18 jobs in 5 years. I never killed someone because I got the heat from my manager. Goddamn.
5 likes@Lou Orlando yes because so many people have been killed by a hundred slaps from a 90lb woman. Another reason this is sickening is that it doesn’t explain the door opening multiple times and being slammed closed again. That’s what sits in my stomach. It’s no longer self defense if she was trying to leave. Multiple times.
5 likesGood
0 likesWhat a waste of life.This guy is a chef and have potential of brighter future.He could be super succeful and respected person.Drugs ruin life,make you not yourself.I was once drugs user but jesus save my life
2 likesOnly 40 years. What a sad story.
4 likes@Abby Normal the victims family usually follow the sentence closely, then step in when they think he's up for parole, for them it's a life sentence....
3 likesif he doesn’t get parole there’s a good chance he dies in prison. he’s already in his 30s and incarceration shortens life expectancy by about 10 years
1 like@MrFairworld why????
0 likesNever go full rodarte
0 likesAre not going to talk about how morally currupt Savannah was. She was only 21 and had a boyfriend with who she used to do evil things.
1 like@A K who cares? she was murdered.
4 likes@PanicTheManic ?
0 likes@Abby Normal forever* don’t ya* think
0 likes@PanicTheManic They are called colloquialisms (i used spellcheck for this word, everyone needs a little help at times). So arrest me. If you are truly the Spelling Police, I will need to see your credentials.
2 likesHe expressed sorrow and apologised to Savannah multiple times.. It was hard watching this man cry afterwards. Just imagine the mental anguish from realising what you've done..
1 like@OliveBranch OliveBranch, you are about 90% correct in your back and forth with EhBoy, and the other 10% goes to him for indeed grasping the complexity of the human mind and how otherwise decent human beings do indeed commit awful vile murders sometimes. This is how that Muslim father of the son who was killed/robbed while delivering a pizza made the decision to forgive his son’s assailant during trial. He wasn’t attempting to strictly humanize his son’s murderer for the sake of it, but rather he really did see him as his family saw him: a young man who committed a deadly crime but doesn’t cease to be a son to his mother, something his actual mother thanked the victim’s father for.. For miraculously seeing through what many would rightfully experience as angersoaked grief, or vice versa.
8 likesAlso, sociopolitical manipulation played a huge part in Nazis thinking the way they did. To insinuate that psychology plays no part in Nazism is a fallacy. That’s not excusing them, that’s just reality. Even in the face of Operation Barbarossa, Lithuanian civilians and volunteers, who already hated Soviet occupation, were led to believe the Jews were the reason for this and that’s how something like the Kaunas Pogrom comes to be.. Pure sociopolitical and racial manipulation (look up Führerprinzip for reference).. In the overwhelming majority though, yes, there was a complete and animalistic disregard for human life, regardless of politics or manipulation, that could never be measured in any sense of morality. The Einsatzgruppen and especially the Dirlewanger Brigade prove this.
Human psychology really is extremely complicated (any and all Tolstoy stories expound that to a perfect tee) but moral compasses should be well intact in most human beings, and yes, that would indeed make him monstrous for what he did, which was cruelly take a life. Though, he unquestionably didn’t cease to be a son or brother in that moment, and to those close to him (i.e. his family/friends), he may very well have been a good guy, but as countless murderers have proven time and time again, the duality and even ‘quadrality’ of the human psyche stops things from always being a simple unmovable polarity of good and bad.
@Jonathan Whitaker he’ll most likely get out someday he got 40 years but got credit for the time he’s already served so really like 36 more year of so and he’ll be around 68 and most likely still Alive
1 like@MrFairworld I hope you're being sarcastic...............
0 likes@hampa you're Ironic, eh?
0 likes@J3an Ex-fucking-actly!
0 likesFeels good man. Lose the key.
0 likesIm a victim of a violent attempted murder . 40 yrs is not long enough neither was the 15 to 30 mine got.
0 likes@Eh Boy damn. OliveBranch destroyed you
3 likes@Lone W There’s no need to comment if you have nothing to add but a useless virtue signal.
5 likes@Wind You added nothing either. Just mimicking what the other dude said.
5 likes@Lone W nope, just believes different moral ideas. If you think humans are monsters then how do you explain our consistent destruction of self and others? Humans can be violent, that does not make them monsters, just bad people
5 likes@Eh Boy I never stated my opinion or what I believe. Just said he destroyed you in your debate.
5 likes@Lone W no he didn't
6 likes@Lone W he is just less educated lmao. He thinks everyone who kills is a monster which is OBJECTIVELY wrong.
1 like@Eh BoyWhy are you getting so offended? You went from saying, "nope, just believes different moral ideas." To "He is just less educated lmao." You were right the first time about it being different views. But just cause someone doesnt agree with you does not mean they are less educated. Everyone has different definitions and views of a monster or evil. Next time dont get mad.
5 likes40 years means he'll be free someday. What he did to Savannah's body after he killed her and the pain her family endured because of that alone, we'll maybe he'll drop dead of a heart attack before he's released. Maybe he'll get killed.
1 likeTHANK YOU Very much Matt.
0 likesBig off
0 likes@Patrick Wilson You're right, but from the emotion and remorse he displayed while alone in the interrogation room indicates that he might be capable of being rehabilitated and able to rejoin society one day. He certainly does not seem to be an emotionless killer with no remorse, as it does not appear that he planned to kill her initially, rather that he did so in the heat of passion, and then tried to cover his tracks. He is far less a monster than some of the killers incarcerated, and thus I think the 40 years is an apt sentence.
0 likes@Thalo96 it was never self defense
0 likes@Patrick Wilson
2 likesWe humans can feel sorry even for "monsters". It doesn't mean justifying what he did.
So that means he gets off at 65
0 likesTo go and kill another innocent life
@Abby Normal welcome to 'merica
0 likes@OliveBranch if you can only empathize with ppl who are easy to empathize with, that's not real empathy. If you can't show compassion for the most heinous person and still see him as a human, then you aren't a compassionate person. If that's your goal fine, but don't call ppl immoral for having basic empathy and compassion.
3 likes@Lou Orlando christ ppl like you would bring back lynch mobs in a heartbeat
2 likes@Ryan ONeal I never said he's not human, sweetie. Biologically, he is. But if you think it's normal to empathize with someone who would murder, mutilate, and assault an innocent girl, then you don't know what empathy is. Lol you need to reorganize your definition of the word.
7 likes@Lou Orlando yea, and mob justice regularly killed innocent ppl. There's a reason we have the system we do.
2 likesAlso, there's never been any evidence that death as punishment is a deterrent.
Great🥳
0 likes@MrFairworld Why....the everloving fuck would u?🤔
0 likesGood
0 likeshe won't even do that... he'll parole in 5 or 8 maximum unless he fks up bad on the inside.
0 likes@MrFairworld start a gofundmurderer page for him
1 like@Po Al Bahahhahahahahahaaaa
0 likes😂👍
@OliveBranch even nazis have a family they love, you said they are a monster? i think you are the monster here
2 likesWow he will probably be out in 20 years, still young enough to do something with his life
0 likes@AQW andrew So having a family just magically makes you not a monster? Serial killers have families, dummy. Rapists, child molesters, they all have families. That means literally nothing.
9 likes@R W In Florida you must serve a minimum 85% of your sentence.
0 likes@Abby Normal In Florida you are only eligible for parole after serving 85%, so in this case, about 34 years. Or a little over 30 more, considering the time he spent in jail.
0 likesStrange one serves a significantly reduced portion of one's sentence, even in Florida. And there's no reason to imagine those laws won't change at all (further liberalize) over the next 40 years. My prediction is this guy serves approximately 22 to 26.
0 likesEh Boy psychopaths* and psychopaths are born and can snap at any moment. but good point otherwise
2 likesKeep his job ??? The Food Network was going to showcase Lee on a new series and here was this little miss innocent threatening to ruin his career if he didn't stay being her boyfriend !!!!!!
0 likes@Gary West I'm from South Africa. Here he'll get 15 years...be out in 7...
0 likesGood news! Thanks for the update!
0 likes👍👌🥳
0 likes@Patrick Wilson amen brotha
0 likes@MrFairworld you feel sorry for a MURDERER? LOL. I have second thoughts about you.
5 likes@MrFairworld how pathetic 😬
2 likes@MrFairworld I feel sorry for him too... 40 years is a long time. I think given that he confessed and the footage following the confession, that is grounds for a shorter sentence. Someone who feels remorse for killing isn't the same as some of the others shown on this channel. Killers aren't monsters. They're human beings that made one of the most severe mistakes a human being can make. A monster is someone who doesn't identify it as a mistake. With a sentence something like 15-20 years, he could serve his time, get out, and still have life left to do something good in the world. Instead, we have someone who has done one of the worst things a human being can do and who actually does have a conscience unable to use that unique perspective to do something worthwhile. I think a 40 year sentence is better applied to someone who is likely to be dangerous on an ongoing basis. I don't think this guy is that.
0 likesthank god
0 likes@Edith Boozy Canada needs to take justice into its own hands yours
0 likesMrFairworld what tf wrong w u
1 like@Eh Boy This is why you should always try to control over your emotions. This kid just gor caught up in the moment and let his anger take over. He didnt seem like a bad guy. He just let his anger overtake him.....
5 likesIf he was a pyscho, he wouldnt have confessed , he wouldnt even care what the dets were saying.
Now his life in prison begins. Hopefully he looks at someone the wrong way and ends up getting beat bad or he turns out being a punk and getting his commissary stolen
2 likes@Eh Boy For what it's worth, I agree with you. He did a terrible thing, but every day half the population experiences elevated anger at an unjust degree, towards another person, while in traffic. Going "too far" is something we are all surprisingly capable of, I believe. You can even see it in the condemnation by "moral" people, that want to see some heinous punishment upon this guy. I can't help but feel bad for him when he breaks down crying.To me he seemed terrified of his future, but also clearly thinking about what he had done.
7 likesPoggers
0 likesDeserved
1 like@Gray Russell absolutely
0 likesJoy
0 likes@Edith Boozy Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka. She now goes under the name of Leanne Bordelais. ( my spelling of her last name now may be a bit off).
0 likes@Zee King Haha thank you!
2 likes@Zee King the world isn’t black and white buddy, once you grow up you will understand.
4 likesThere’s no such thing as “good” or “bad” people. There’s only human.
@Zee King She manipulated him.
0 likes@MrFairworld people act like a murder is a complete alien. Often times, they are. But this particular did something rare. He regrets it, he is sorry to Savannah, his mom, his bright future. He deserves 40 years, but there clearly is SOME form of humanity in him. Therefore there is something to pity, even in a tiny way
4 likes@Patrick Wilson saying he feels sorry for him doesn't me he thinks he deserves less, he deserves a long prison sentence. Duh. Feeling a little pity for the murderer when he shows a bit of humanity (rare) is not a crazy or bad thing.
1 likeMeanwhile the mom who killed her two children in cold blood got 10 years.
0 likesOnly 40?
0 likesNice
0 likes@Abby Normal Completely agree.
0 likes@Who dares Rodders couldn't disagree more
0 likesthanks i was looking for that comment
0 likes@hampa yeah he should only have got 10 years imo.
0 likesAbby Normal not necessarily. The murder seems like it was an accident—it definitely doesn’t seem premeditated. The subsequent “mutilation” was his clumsy attempt to dispose of the body, which is rational behavior if you don’t want to get caught.
0 likesSelfish, yes. Reprehensible, yes. But I would not call it reason enough to lock him up forever. Disposing of the body doesn’t necessarily indicate anything more than fear and desire to avoid consequences. It’s not an indication of being more of a danger to society.
Hopefully all in solitary confinement. Ppl like this dont deserve social interaction ever again
0 likesHe became a monster. He was, at one point, simply a child.
0 likesWhat went wrong?
How can we produce less of this?
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Would you all get a room? Who views youtube as a forum 😵
@Eh Boy i think youre right
0 likesi've talked to people who work with really horrible criminals and they all said that you can hate their actions/crimes etc. but this shouldnt give you the right to hate the person who did it.
I just hope he finds Salvation through the Lord Jesus Christ.
0 likes@Who dares Rodders he isn’t entertaining the troll though. He’s not being rude at the troll, he is just saying his reasons.
0 likes@Gary West it’s 2nd degree murder. The sentence for that is 30-life imprisonment. So, no. Not “only 40 years”? Murders happen every year. If we gave them all over 40 years, our systems would be crowded and the prison expenditure would get more and more expensive.
0 likes@OliveBranch You are slow.
0 likes@Immadiveint Wow, what an intelligent response.
2 likes@PTSD The fact that your name is literally PTSD while you're making excuses for a man this heinous. Can't write irony better than that. I'm so sorry that simply stating "murdering someone is wrong" is this upsetting to you, but I'm also not sorry and I don't care. Learn to spell, educate yourself, get a life.
2 likes@OliveBranch a crime doesn’t colour every facet of someone’s existence. You must be very young
1 like@MrFairworld too bad it wasn't you
0 likes@OliveBranch it's a mistake + trying to cover up the mistake. That's all it is. None of that shit takes premeditaion and none of it suggests anything except he didn't wanna go to jail for 40 years so he tried to cover it up. He did a horrible job at it, and his crime was pathetic and incredibly stupid, but that doesn't mean he didn't make a mistake.
0 likesTakes a very sick, sadistic person to take joy in the fact that a prisoner will be homosexuality raped. A decent human being would be outraged that people are being sentenced to be homosexuality raped for 40 years in his own country.
0 likes@OliveBranch it's funny I just read some of the other comments all the people saying the same thing I did "you must be very young", you should internalize that, as when you have several people telling you the same thing about yourself, it's a pretty good indication that what they are saying is possibly true, in this case, the fact that you sound like a very sheltered 15 year old girl. It probably obvious to so many people because of how you let this child like sense of "good" and "bad" influence your understanding of the meaning of words like empathy and humanity. That and how you say literally to refer to a name, a name is a word, and words are, of course, literal, so it's redundant and unnecessary to say "your name is literally____", of course it is. That's all, just wanted to make sure you were getting all of this, I know it's a lot to come at you all at once but when you get older you'll see it's not really difficult to understand, and you'll feel like an idiot.
0 likes@Stormer248 And you're basing what happened and her character off of what her murderer said happened after showing he is an unreliable liar throughout this entire video? Seems this hit a little too close to home for you 🥴
0 likes@Dustpipe in the Federal system there is no parole. You have to serve at least 85% of your sentence no matter what the crime.
0 likes@A K Blaming the victim never makes for good talk.
0 likesGood news!
0 likesthat's all?
0 likesThe moment around 23:20 is something I remember an undercover agent had to do in the mafia. He got called out for being a cop so he broke the guy's jaw because being outraged was the response of someone who was being wrongly accused. That convinced the made guy who was there that it wasn't true and he was a real gangster not connected to law enforcement.
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you’re talking about Donnie Brasco
2 likesI love how this channel goes through the meticulous details the investigators choreograph into the interrogations. They really work to put people at their weakest state of mind.
11 likesIt’s amazing how tough someone can act until they’re faced with reality
20 likesWhat’s really peculiar about this is how little concrete information is actually known about it in the same vein as say, the Chris Watts case. Did he slash her tire as they were arguing, or was it after she was killed, as stated in this video?
10 likesShe most likely wasn’t high the way Lee probably was. So why did they decide the conversation needed to be had inside the car, in the backseats no less?
Was he really able to kill her with his bare hands in less than a minute? Or did she pass out and was killed in another point in time? That question I think is important because although Lee admitted to snapping her neck, the vid stated the autopsy report wasn’t able to confirm an exact cause of death.
Idk it’s just really irksome how up in the air a lot of the finer details of this case are, for no reason.
Detective: "How do you know Savannah?"
5573 likesLee: A savanna or savannah is a mixed woodland-grassland ecosystem characterised by the trees being sufficiently widely spaced so that the canopy does not close. The open canopy allows sufficient light to reach the ground to support an unbroken herbaceous layer consisting primarily of grasses. Savannas maintain an open canopy despite a high tree density. It is often believed that savannas feature widely spaced, scattered trees. However, in many savannas, tree densities are higher and trees are more regularly spaced than in forests. The South American savanna types cerrado sensu stricto and cerrado dense typically have densities of trees similar to or higher than that found in South American tropical forests, with savanna ranging from 800–3300 trees per hectare and adjacent forests with 800–2000 trees/ha. Similarly Guinean savanna has 129 trees/ha, compared to 103 for riparian forest, while Eastern Australian sclerophyll forests have average tree densities of approximately 100 per hectare, comparable to savannas in the same region. Savannas are also characterised by seasonal water availability, with the majority of rainfall confined to one season; they are associated with several types of biomes, and are frequently in a transitional zone between forest and desert or grassland. Savanna covers approximately 20% of the Earth's land area
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He's hoping the detectives won't be able to tell the wood from the trees.
289 likes😂😂
12 likesmost underrated comment
64 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Absolutely brilliant!
22 likesLMFAO
12 likesI like Arizona.
15 likes@Taurus Arizona is cool
10 likespoetry
7 likesimagine if that's actually what he answered
22 likesThis is gold👌
9 likeslike geez you’ve been talking for a lil minuet now 😭
3 likes@Aaron Nelson Arizona is actually quite warm
2 likesHonestly any other criminal wouldn’t even go THAT far, like he was going off
1 likebruh you literally plagiarized this comment
1 likeThere's a special place in heaven for you lmfao
2 likesHAHAHHAHAHA for real!!!
1 like@Seth Actually it's pretty damn hot here
1 likeI respect the level of Commitment and/or Insanity you channeled to make this joke, well done...well done indeed.
6 likesYup that sums it up, what? O co-worker Savannah yea she's a cold person I don't talk to her any more. (To soon sorry)
1 like“Jesus Christ i didn’t need to know that much detail” -the interrogator
0 likesBruh 😂
0 likesLmao
0 likesLmao
0 likes@Local citizen don't apologize, Tragedy is just Comedy that's not Quite Ripe yet XD
2 likes"what happened...I blacked out"
1 likeSo that's why they can be tapped for either white or green mana.
2 likeslool
1 likeSTEEEVEN!
1 likehahhahahhahah!!!!!!!!!!
0 likes@Luna Lux I felt obligated to read the whole thing 😂
6 likesNice haha
1 like"now can you get me some cake?"
1 like#encyclopediaonline good job! :D on the 2.4k points! lol
1 likeSir your free to go just leave
2 likesNiiice
1 likeFunny asf and educational
2 likesdude I read it all. like a 7th grade student..
4 likesThis guy savannas
2 likesI respect your dedication haha
0 likesSavannah is the oldest city in the U.S. state of Georgia and is the county seat of Chatham County. Established in 1733 on the Savannah River, the city of Savannah became the British colonial capital of the Province of Georgia and later the first state capital of Georgia. A strategic port city in the American Revolution and during the American Civil War, Savannah is today an industrial center and an important Atlantic seaport. It is Georgia's fifth-largest city, with a 2019 estimated population of 144,464 The Savannah metropolitan area, Georgia's third-largest, had an estimated population of 393,353 in 2019.
1 likeEach year Savannah attracts millions of visitors to its cobblestone streets, parks, and notable historic buildings. These buildings include the birthplace of Juliette Gordon Low (founder of the Girl Scouts of the USA), the Georgia Historical Society (the oldest continually operating historical society in the South), the Telfair Academy of Arts and Sciences (one of the South's first public museums), the First African Baptist Church (one of the oldest African-American Baptist congregations in the United States), Temple Mickve Israel (the third-oldest synagogue in the U.S.), and the Central of Georgia Railway roundhouse complex (the oldest standing antebellum rail facility in the U.S.).
Savannah's downtown area, which includes the Savannah Historic District, the Savannah Victorian Historic District, and 22 parklike squares, is one of the largest National Historic Landmark Districts in the United States (designated by the U.S. government in 1966). Downtown Savannah largely retains the original town plan prescribed by founder James Oglethorpe (a design now known as the Oglethorpe Plan).
Savannah was the host city for the sailing competitions during the 1996 Summer Olympics held in Atlanta.
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0 likesHahaha 😂😂
0 likesu fuckin win Aaron LOL
0 likesim cryin
0 likesLOL
0 likesI learned something today
0 likes⚰😂⚰ goodnight.
0 likesI died 😂
0 likesI'm ded🤣
0 likes🤣🤣🤣dude you killed me with that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likeswas that from wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit?!
0 likesseeing a grown man cry in a corner talking to himself and how he’s sorry, makes me think. i don’t think he’s sorry for hurting savannah at all. i think he’s sorry he got caught.
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Yeah he’s not sorry, just sorry he got caught
7 likes@Normal Human exactly, i love watching these videos but it reminds me how real this world is and how sick people are
1 likeThis dude really ruined his life over nothing. It's crazy how quickly your life can drastically change.
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I don't think this is a case of "how quickly your life can change" for him, but for Savanah. He was always a piece of shit who had the capability to kill someone.
2 likesThere is a short period of time at the end of the interrogation footage, the point where Lee fully understands the harm he did and extent of his wrongdoing. That's the Lee that I feel sorry for. Everything leading up to it and after it are the results of his own choices and failures in life, and a poor girl is gone because of it.
0 likesThis channel is unbeatable when it comes to analysis. I know there are multiple replica channels but no channel even slouch the quality this one has.
1 likeSo familiar with the case how did I miss your interrogation analysis. This is awesome you created the genre and are still the best JCS.
12 likesAfter sitting for 45 minutes or so the suspects mind had a lot of time to process what was going on so when is was asked a personal question about the victim his mind began to overconscious of his guilt so from thinking for so long he probably had an in depth idea of what he would say and when the victim was the first thing he heard about it threw his whole premade scenario off and he became aware that he may be caught so he was laying the foundation for his own justification for this crime by attending to create a unsavory Image of the victim and make himself seem to be a unfortunate party involved.
3 likesPeople who lie about crimes are not going to fit the same characteristics as everyone else.
There are key measures but each case is individual.
Such as one who is nervous may not be guilty of the crime but feel guilty elsewhere in life and being put in the position of guilt and confronted by an athorty figure one may display guilt as a naural feeling from a alternate source of guilt.
The more brazen and sure a guilty person is the more they will believe they can escape prosocution so they will always make solid firm evidence of their innocence even if they begin to feel they will be caught.
If they feel they will get caught they give grounds for reasonable guilt and distort the decency of the victims character to create a negative image to encourage a unfavorable opinion of the victim.
Detective: How long have you known Savannah?
5 likesLee: Now this is a story all about how my life got flipped turned upside down and I’d like to take a minute just sit right there I’ll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air
Don’t let YouTube win JCS, keep us updated
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They've already won unfortunately. There's nothing JCS can do.
6 likes@Herbert West What happened?
1 like@Herbert West what happened?
1 likeYoutube won like 5 months ago. Well actually i think they lost as they banned a hreat channel that has over 300 million total views. Youtube sucks sometimes.
1 like@Herbert West answer the freaking question man
0 likes@quincillen JCS videos got demonetized and videos were randomly getting taken down.
0 likesUpdate for anyone interested: Rodarte received a 40-year prison sentence in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to second-degree murder, according to the State Attorney's Office.
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO9
220 likesThanks for the update! Was looking through the comments to see if anyone updated it! Lol
225 likes@Andes Mint That Tom Brady “Lets Go” commercial is stupid. He doesnt even say “Lets Go” like he normally does.
21 likes@HereIsWisdom 1318 wasnt referencing that but ok
452 likesCheers
9 likes@Andes Mint Yea, i think this comment got attached while transitioning videos, which sometimes happens on my iphone! Lol
12 likesBut the point remains, Tom Brady doesnt say “Lets Go” in his pre-game hype up like he does in the stupid commercial.
@HereIsWisdom 1318 the point? you brought it up yourself and not a single person other than you cares
243 likesLess go bro sweet!
5 likes@HereIsWisdom 1318 Bruh you act as if that is a unique phrase.
85 likes@HereIsWisdom 1318 who the fuck is Tom Brady
183 likes@shaq Tom Brady
41 likesLol. The fuck is a ton brady
26 likesSo you will be 48 when he is released?
12 likes@HempLemming Why is ton brady?
21 likes@policeMarcus why????
18 likes@Daniel O'Brien I think he deserves to be released later in life.
17 likes@policeMarcus why. he murdered someone in cold blood
44 likes@policeMarcus I hope you will never see one of your loved ones be murdered. I wouldn't wish it to my worst enemies.
68 likesTy!
2 likes@policeMarcus the solution is to take the lives of people who have taken the lives of others. The fact you lumped what this person did with just any "crime" is insane
60 likes@Mech The fact that I answered the sentence "Scums can't re-offend if they're dead." and not comparing what Lee did to every other crime makes your point invalid.
17 likes@Mech And that "solution" of yours doesn't seem to work so great does it?
58 likesUSA reoffending rate: 76.6%
Norway reoffending rate: 20%
Why is there a difference? Because Norway focuses on rehabilitation and restorative justice (prepare the inmate to be released, make prison similiar to the outside life with comfortable rooms, free outdoor space and large windows to the outside) while USA focuses on punishment and makes up sentences based on public relations about a certain convic).
And don't give me the "it's too expensive" bullshit, because USA has the worlds biggest economy (+ with the largest debt too lmao) whilst Norway is on 48th place in the world.
@policeMarcus looks like your doing a whole lot of talking to absolutely no one
21 likes@Mech Looks like I'm talking to you and the other 2 guys in the conversation.
37 likes@Mech i hear him, he makes a good point, US system obviously doesnt work too well. I dont agree that this kid should see the light of day for the contradictory answer the guy said himself, that US prisons offer no rehabilitation. So yea, dont let him out. However, if they changed the system, even if it caused one person to be rehabbed, that would save lives and cost less for taxpayers.
42 likesNot enough but good to hear
7 likes@Solaire of Astora About 5 years in a Norwegian prison would be enough to rehabilitate him, prepare him, and make him ready for a new life. Meanwhile in the USA you give them 30+ years and what is the outcome? 76.6% re-offending rate, a failing economy, mental illness and abusive guards. No wonder so many tries to escape.
35 likesYou the real MVP
1 like@shaq Ask your girl who he is...
1 likeSo he could get out in 20 years and wear a chef jacket again that sucks.
6 likes@CodexPwnz he won't serve 40 years he will get out earlier then that with some bs reason.
11 likes@Secret ! Hate crime is equal to life in prison? How does that nake sense?
7 likes@policeMarcus Hate crime and murder, thats what they did to James Fields and his wasn't even premeditated.
2 likes@Secret ! You didn't mention murder in your original comment sorry.
8 likes@red watch To rehabilitate the man, yes.
35 likesTo fulfill my emotional anger, no.
Although personal emotion shouldn't sway the court.
@policeMarcus Thank you for an honest answer.
7 likesWhen is Bom Trady?
6 likes@Mike Potter It's called a comparison between a failing and succesful system, and if you can't see people are listening to what I have to say.
32 likesAnd yes, someone technically did ask by claiming there was one solution, but I showed them another more succesful one.
And that beast of yours could become a world champion against crime one day with the right treatment.
Did he say why he did it? The way he was talking in the end made it look like it was crime of passion, or like he was on drugs or something, and getting rid of the body was more of a panic thing. Or did he stick with the self defense reason?
6 likes@HereIsWisdom 1318 You know people say LETS GOOOO because they're excited in response to what was said? You're looking to far into it lol
4 likesRope is cheap
4 likes@policeMarcus you have no idea what you speak of
7 likes@red watch Ask their court and their sentecning program, I made an estimate based on what I have seen and how it works.
7 likes@Mike Potter Is that all you got in store for me? Alright then.
8 likes@shaq whos bom trady?
3 likes@policeMarcus Execution= 0% re-offending rate.
13 likesIt's called Justice. Or Just Desserts. Also called Deterrent. Also called Civilization.
@guy I'm comparing the two systems as a whole, you cannot execute everyone for any crime can you?
8 likes@policeMarcus Obviously not. I may be wrong but it appears that you were advocating for leniency for someone who has been convicted of a violent Murder. In my opinion that is an insult to the family and to the individuals that make up society.
17 likesIt would be unjust and humans have a need for Justice. Only a dysfunctional society does not provide for the need for Justice and Just Desserts.
@guy Well it looks like Norway is more functional than the USA, so it might be the opposite effects.
16 likes@policeMarcus Sounds like denial to me, but enjoy your Country you can have it. But I'm sure you will be calling on us when you get invaded. A deluded people are usually content to let others defend them because, you know, that won't happen. I would never set foot in Norway because its illegal to defend your family there. But again, its best to believe one would never need to. Cheers
5 likes@guy I don't even live in Norway my "guy".
16 likesAnd a truck driver with runaway brakes in Colorado got 110 years. This PoS killed a girl in cold blood and gets 40.
9 likes@Joe Baxter How the hell did he even get sentenced? It wasn't his fault?
10 likes@HereIsWisdom 1318 let’s goooo
2 likes@policeMarcus Well, it may have been partially his fault. How you react after things go wrong, especially if you have been trained, like most truck drivers are, could make it negligent homicide. But still, no matter what, the sentence is unjust comparatively.
11 likesWoop woop
1 like@shaq Tom
1 likeWhen discussing whether or not this dude got the right sentence, I could care less about the system, Norway’s system, emotion in a trial, or the reoffending rate. Fuck his rehabilitation. Savannah doesn’t get hers, neither should he.
19 likesayo i was the 1400th like , i disliked to check
3 likes@policeMarcus
2 likesIt’s more expensive to let criminals out on the street. It’s not the governments job to each people not to murder and steal.
@J K Is it more expensive to keep a criminal in for life or for 10 years? Plus, as stated before, if Norway can cope with the costs then the USA can too. Quit spending so much on the military and the people will get better living standards.
4 likes@policeMarcus you’re implying all crime is equal … it is not in my opinion … stealing a loaf of bread compared to murder is way different … so I agree with jay … life for a life …
11 likes@They Hold No Quarter I don't imply all crimes are equal, I understand the weight of murder and the barely noticable weight of stealing bread.
16 likesHowever, your stay in prison shouldn't have any specific time, there shouldn't be a manual or a minimum or maximum per each crime. It should be based per person how long it takes for them to be rehabilitated, and once that process is done then can they leave.
And this isn't a theoretical system, it exists and is much more effective.
One guy on your side on the other hand equaled every crime to death to prevent "re-offendence". I see you guys are running a little desperate.
@policeMarcus I understand what you’re saying … the issue is we are human … the “rehabilitation” of someone varies… too many variables … so how do we know when someone is rehabilitated? Cause humans lie not only with their words but with body language as well… if you give the right answers to the questions on how you feel now and how you’re so sorry “ you’re free” …. It’s too complex brother
4 likes@They Hold No Quarter It's not, you both have communications officers and psychologists, there is no lying to them.
6 likesWan't proof? Look at Norway, they use this system, and they have very low re-offending rates, proving that they know when someone is rehabilitated and can let them out at that moment.
The system isn't based on questions either, you notice on a person if they stay inside a prison on how they behave when they come in and how they behave when they come out.
And as already stated, it works, and it is effective.
@policeMarcus you’re not looking at the population of Norway compared to the US (which is way smaller) and you’re not also looking at the fact that Norway spends around 90k to the US 32,000$ per prisoner…. Norway has around 4,000 prisoners compared to 2.2 million (USA)…
10 likesI do understand what you’re trying to say and I would agree and say hey let’s do what Norway is doing and see the results!
But your logistics with it working in Norway can’t compare to the USA … the population is astounding compared to Norway
@They Hold No Quarter You're not looking at the fact that the number of prisoners would be reduced if the USA used a restorative justice system as more people would be released according to the new rules. That would also bring down the costs and many facilities could maybe even close due to not needing that high of a capacity anymore.
11 likesYou can't compare USA's current system with a new one. Plus USA's economy is also astounding if you compare them to Norway.
And what you may have missed is that the United States government is in fact saying "hey let's do what norway does". Because, as also stated before, they have sent multiple advisors and inspectors to Norway to check on how they do it and why they are so successful with their system.
Although I doubt anything will happen due to the arms race with China at the moment, perhaps the USA would change to a more human system in the near future.
@policeMarcus I think we agree with each other and the only thing I disagree with it guilty of murder … id love to try why Norway does … but not with murder … no… also I don’t think it’s possible due to the population difference and also the taxation difference… it’s just not possible … you think the rich in the USA would take those taxes ? They run everything unfortunately….
7 likes@policeMarcus and also are you looking at murder cases from Norway or just all of the crimes ?
4 likesThis should be the top comment, though he's your lookalike.
0 likes@policeMarcus dude how you want to rehab guy who killed smbdy raped fucking butchered it's simple ya can't dude lol i don't get ur point of view
7 likes@Alucard You can, Goku. And it's happening every day.
4 likes@The Beast How have I been comparing murder to other crimes?
4 likesThanks for the update. I hope you're legit. I'm not feeling google tonight...
0 likesThanks for the update!
0 likes@policeMarcus strange to say but i agree. you could tell that deep down inside he has good morals, and after 40 years of being punished he should come out a changed man and after that he almost deserves to live his last few years on the outside.
3 likes@WChurchill flippingthebird GB?
0 likesFrom a Rodarte update to ton Brady
0 likes@policeMarcus Ok, thanks for your answer. As to separating paragraphs, you are right. I just get easily swept away especially when I get too much emotionally involved.
1 likeI apologise if I sounded too harsh at the beginning. It's not because of Norway system or anything related to USA. It's because I am fed up with the impunity in my own country. So it makes me crave for seeing criminals really paying for their crimes. And here it's not so much about the system but about corruption, laziness and inconcering. Just 2 examples of what I mean:
1. When me and my bf were attacked at our house (a woman holding my throat with her hands and a man who had his knife put next to my bf's stomach) and then our phone stolen, we went to the police station that is just 2 mins away from home. They sent us away saying we should report it on the morning. On the next day we were told to go search for it alone and Inform them if we see some house for 2nd hand items to sell it. When we found it days later (there were also cameras showing them leaving the phone for selling at the house), police told us to buy it from there alone because they don't confiscate items that cost low price. Because we reported the crime, a few days later my bf got ambushed from the back and beaten by the guy who attacked us at home. Police said if he doesn't have witnesses, they can't do anything about it. A year later we received a letter that there won't be a trial because the phone was only partely stolen. It was my 1st time hearing such a noncence and I still believe this was made up and we don't have a law saying that if someone steals from you but don't sell what they stole but give it to a 3d party to sell it, it means it is not fully but partly stollen.
2. The second story is why I stopped reading/watching news from my country. A guy around 25 was at a party under the open sky out of the city. It was organised in fb and he didn't know anyone. Around 2 am he sent a SOS message to his parents with his location and after his phone couldn't be reached out. Police has been informed but they couldn't find him for 2 days. On the 3d day a random guy finds his body around the place he supposed to be and was researched. The man had 8 broken ribs. The police conclusion: it was a suicide 🤷♀️ They claim he must have had climbed a tree in order to hang himself but after the branch has broken under his weight and with the falling his ribs must have broken . The guy who found the body claims there hasn't been any loop around the man's neck or a branch. The explaination from the police - the loop must have became loose during the fall, has pullen out from his neck and got lost with the branch somewhere.
There are so so many things like this here. And I am angry and at the same time desperate and feel powerless.
I can continue telling you about brutally attempted murders that are treated as causing "not serious" injuries as a broken spine, broken skull and they literally run a man off 2 times with their car before go out of their vehicle and start beating his head with a pipe. But they were convicted with causing injuries and not a murder attempt.
Or the student who went in the USA embassy for getting a working visa but never got out. His friends waited for him 4 hours before they give up. For some unknown reason the cameras inside stopped working exactly at the moment they supposed to show the boy making his way out of there. It's been years since then and the boy is still missing. Police couldn't do much about it because they don't have right to search the embassy. But they found later a body (remains) nearby of a guy who has been hanged but all of his teeth were broken and missing. The cloths and the shoes weren't the same as the missing boy and it was concluded it is not the same person.
The woman who went to another city to visit her bf was found on the very next day drawned in 20 sm wather. Her bf told that at 2 in the morning she decided to go on a walk alone in the unknown city... It was concluded to be an accident.
Should I even mention what is happening if you try to call ambulance or fire brigade or child protection? I have so many real stories about it as well 😥
I apologise for my long monologue complaining and for my not so good English. I just needed to get this out of my chests.
Stay safe all and let's justice be with you 😔❤️
@Nora Wow, that is a very special story and it is an example of what justice and police enforcement shouldn't be.
5 likesSadly however, Russia don't have the best reputation when it comes to those matters.
I hope you find a better life elsewhere, you should plan on moving if it were up to me.
I must give it to you, your English is pretty good.
@guy is it better to execute 10 convicted murderers and 1 innocent convict that you later found evidence to clear them for
2 likesor let 10 convicted murderers serve life in prison and that 1 person gets to live when the truth gets out
@policeMarcus Thank you for your kind words! Only to mention in case what you say about Russia was because you had the impression I am from there - I am from a small country in East Europe called Bulgaria. We have very similar language as Russians. We also were a comunist country.
2 likesThe thing is we were able to survive almost 2 centuries under Byzantines, 5 centuries under Otomans but what really is about to erase us is the corruption of our own people. The impact it has is so huge and the worst cosequence is not even the poverty. It is the change in people.
I'm kidding you not when I tell you I do believe there are whole generations of sociopaths recent years. To explain what I mean (according to the things I have read - I am not a psychologist either) - both psychopaths and sociopaths are incapable or very rarely able to feel empathy towards another live creature. The difference is psychopaths are born this way while sociopaths are created due to the environment they've grown and have lived under.
Last decades created a society with wrong morals, no values and no respect. It is sad how you seeing humans all around you but you rarely see humanity. But if it turns out my country may lose the battle with the evil, I still hope that the world won't and the good will win ❤️
@Nora I'm sorry, can't see difference between Bulgarian and Russian.
3 likes@policeMarcus lol It's ok. If a person haven't learned the language it's easy to can't differenciate it from other languages from the same language family. It is hard for me to tell which slavic language belongs to which country, too. Before I started learning Spanish, it was hard to differ it from Portugaise and Italian. Ah... I really can't speak with 2-3 words 😅 I meant it is ok and totally understandable ❤️
2 likes"That was the worst deal in the history of deals, maybe ever!"
0 likesNot enough time tbh but at least he'll be behind bars for a LONG time.
3 likesWow 40 for second degree
0 likesThank God you are here to let us know
0 likes@Little Lou First of all, the rehabilitation takes place while they are in prison, and that is the place where it is supposed to take place too.
4 likesSecond of all, if someone is rehabilitated, that means they won't re-offend, and that is the whole point.
I think you have no idea what you are talking about as you think being in prison and being rehabilitated are different things and happen in different facilities.
@Little Lou And as a side note, I don't mean "ALL" murders, I mean those who are deemed fit and mentally sane to go trough that process.
3 likes@policeMarcus no, I got plenty. You compare an inconsequential, tiny group of people to the predominant nation on the globe. We are a complex machine that welcomes all races, creeds and faiths. Our prison and punitive system is equally complex. And, in fact quite successful in case the correct person encounters it. We finance complete and sophisticated libraries for the inmates. We finance technical schools for the inmates to study and learn during their incarceration time. There are leaders of faith who dedicate their lives to share with the inmates. Here is the big difference, all of the benefits are voluntary. If a criminal desires to sit and rot, so be it. If an inmate wishes to learn and better his or her self, the chance is there. I hired a man who was in jail. Got him out early. Spent money on him. He is out, working and loves the Lord. Have you reached into your personal pocket and brought an inmate out. Okay then. Ya snide smart ass.
0 likesSo let me get this straight. While his victim can no longer be alive forever.. gone forever
1 likeWhile her family is suffering
You think it's okay for him to still be living free
Ok
@Jacob Baird 😄
0 likesThe police woman is lying that her little girl is the same age.
1 like@Mike Potter That's actually an easy and merciful death. 40 years in prison seems worse but it probably was not second degree murder. He got her in a car and took her off seems premeditated because she was risking his position at work. He gives them motivation immediately like an idiot.
1 like@TrueCrimeGuru I know what your saying. Something about hurting the defenseless stirs me up. I don’t understand why someone wants to hurt someone.
1 like@policeMarcus that’s right I’m a patriotic American. Is there a problem with that? Give me a direct answer to my question, have you reached into your snotty pockets and pulled your personal money out to help an inmate? Until you have, you can’t debate on same platform as me. My economics are just fine. I would respond to your other statements if they made sense. Perhaps learn grammar and sentence structure of the people you hate before you criticize them? It makes your argument quite pale.
1 like@Mike Potter I don't pull money out of my own pockets, that's not how tax works.
3 likesThats really sad. He will suicide in the jail :( that’s really cruel
2 likes@Fons Here is someone who gets my idea.
1 like@shaq: Great question -- Premier League striker.
0 likes@Joyphobic nah I don’t agree w that
0 likes@policeMarcus it is not even an idea. in some countries is the law. Unfortunately is very difficult of Americans to get it. they are full of fears and have lost (if they ever had) their trust to humans. I mean look their society, it all started with slaves, guns and killings, and it continues till today. i just feel sorry for the one's who will never survive in this wild wild west like the boy on the video.
1 like@policeMarcus l ok
0 likes@policeMarcus honestly I get it too. I don't want the government murdering people on my behalf. An eye for an eye makes us all blind. But, you know, Merica and all in the comments.
0 likes@Capnskurk Never stated anything about that case.
1 like@HereIsWisdom 1318 LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
0 likes@Beasley I get it. But listen to how Brady says “Lets Go” before game time. Its not the same as on that idiot car ad.
0 likesAh, so he’ll be out when he’s about 75 yrs old. Maybe by that time, he’s hoping, people will be just brains in jars with robot bodies.
0 likes@policeMarcus man you still going in about this? It’s been like a month now.
1 like@binarybus11000 I began when the comment said "posted a week ago" I believe, and yes I am.
2 likes@policeMarcus your first comment on this thread says “4 Weeks Ago.” So yeah, it’s been like a month now. I made a comment 3 weeks ago and just revisited today and I see that you’re still going hard.
2 likes@binarybus11000 Conversations like this usually last a month, replies have begun to die out.
2 likes@policeMarcus Are we still talking about Tom Brady here?
2 likes@Life with Bart No? About the original comment.
2 likesIt's weird the US has sentences that combine to such big lengths, I feel like you either give a smaller one, or life sentence, because what is the differentating factor otherwise? You either go "hey, this guy is possible to rehabilitate" or "nah, let's keep him away as a danger to society, his presence is more dangerous and rehabilitation is too much of a gamble in his case". But 40 years kinda falls in no-mans land, it shouldn't take this long to rehabilitate anyone if rehabilitation is possible, and if it is not, then why not give a life sentence? I think this guy is definitely rehabilitable though, and any rehibilitation is doable in less time than that.
2 likesSUuuuuuuuiiiiiiiiiiii
0 likeshe got only 40 years? he got of way to easy
0 likes@HempLemming ton brady weights one ton
0 likes@policeMarcus I understand what you’re saying but I’d say that would only apply to certain crimes. He literally murdered a woman.. and in this case, I think the victims family should have a say in what’s done to him. I have a feeling it still wouldn’t be a slap on the wrist
1 like@policeMarcus So what is a suitable sentence in your mind? Have you ever bothered to learn prison systems of other countries?
0 likes@WillieRants I'd reckon I have learnt the US prison system by this point.
1 like@Secret ! What race do you hate? Let me guess, anyone not lily white. I bet that's who you hate. "Ahh man hate, hate, hate, hate, hate hate..." - Ice T, The Dave Chappelle Show
0 likes@guy there are countless cases of innocent people executed in the US. can't unexecute someone. but you can undo someone's prison sentence.
0 likes@They Hold No Quarter if you don't believe in himan rights that's a valid take
0 likes@TrashCrab yes. that's how it ahould be
0 likes@Tonio Kettner I got to say you're the best troll I've met in a while.
0 likes@TrashCrab what about my replies was possibly perceived as troll?
0 likesyou're just doing the "i don't agree with this guy so he must be trolling" strategy
@TrashCrab the eye for an eye dogshit has no place in our society
0 likes@K. Leo I'm not the one who murdered someone because of their skin color. Take your hate elsewhere.
0 likes@TrashCrab Not sure why this guy is a troll, he stated his opinion just like I have done. People may have called me stupid in this matter but a troll I've never heard.
1 likeIf tonio is a troll I can't imagine what I am according to your idea.
@policeMarcus I have to ask about your stats. You said the reoffending rate in Norway is 20%. Is that strictly for violent offenders (ie rapists, murders, etc)? Or is that the general reoffending rate? Because if 1/5 of violent criminals are released back into the public after only a few years then you would inevitably have a higher population reoffending in relation to population size. Also, that wouldn’t discourage others from committing those violent crimes in the first place knowing their sentences will be light. Idk about you, but that sounds like a frightening place for women to live where rapists and murders only get a slap on the wrist. Makes it worth their while to keep offending. Might I add that I do not believe the US prison system is perfect by any means. But clarifying your stats would be helpful in this discussion.
2 likesonly 40 years???
0 likes@K D 40 years is too long for killing another person? alright.
0 likes@K D it helps the victim's loved ones?? how'd you feel if you saw the day the person that killed your child was released from prison? some people who accidentally kill someone in a bar fight or through a car accident get longer sentences than 40 years.
1 likeThank you for the update.
0 likesit's stupid imo that they can make deals. Leads to all kinds of unjust sentences in both directions. He shouldn't get a reduced sentence just for pleading guilty. He was going to be found guilty anyway so wtf
1 likethis is gonna sound really messed up but i kinda feel bad for the man...
2 likes@K D An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. That's to black and white of a view, rehabilitation albeit the more expensive and less likely to succeed option should be pursued. If someone killed me I don't think they deserve death everyone should have their chance at redemption.
0 likes@yaya That's not what I was refering too, I myself has some standards.
1 like@JEANNIE LORENE As I have said before, emotions can't be used in court.
2 likesNo parole?
0 likes@policeMarcus rehabilitation should be saved for people who’s crimes don’t cause lives to be taken or ruined. A stolen loaf of bread can always be baked again, but once you kill someone there’s no bringing them back. Do you really think people who can purposely take an innocent person’s life deserve to eventually be able to enjoy theirs again? If so I’m very curious as to why because at that point I hardly think they have any reason to be treated humanely, golden rule and all that. As for the money side of things, if you can prove without a shadow of a doubt that someone is a murderer, you can spend a nice crisp 0 dollars on them for the rest of their prison stay by having them executed rather than rehabilitating them with an apparent 1/5 chance to kill again anyways. It’s a win-win-win-win, the victim gets their revenge, the killer gets their just deserts, the family doesn’t have to feel the torment that comes with seeing someone who caused you so much pain and loss walk free, and there’s an absolutely 0% chance of them reoffending. Now there of course are reasons someone may have to kill, like if they believe their life is in danger, and people also may kill by accident, which doesn’t deserve such a harsh punishment IMO (it still of course does deserve punishment though). It’s the taking of innocent lives because of relatively trivial reasons, like the one in this video, that does not deserve a second chance. Rehabilitation is a good idea however it should be saved for people who deserve a second chance, and I don’t believe the man in this video is entitled to that chance after what he did.
1 like@Mage_wielder if I may ask, how come you believe they don’t deserve death? Assuming someone killed you for no other reason than because it was convenient for them, do you not think that blatant disregard for human life deserves to be reciprocated with disregard for their life? Especially in this example, as he killed someone because of a disagreement that he ultimately could have settled normally, and that would have had a relatively small effect on his life, if any at all.
0 likes@policeMarcus Norway has a VERY different demographic. You can't compare a tiny little place with ALL white people to what we have in this massive country full of DIFFERENT races and cultures. To attempt a 1:1 comparison is insanity.
1 like@policeMarcus shit man, 2 months ago when you started and still going. I’m curious to see how long you can keep this going.
0 likes@binarybus11000 Lost quite the interest now, I believe my point is clear. But I will still respond to those I see fit.
1 likeAnd me! He's talking to me too!!!
0 likesThank Yeeewwww
0 likes@binarybus11000 babe. “ i could care less” means: you actually care.
1 likethe right way to say only i this manner: I COULD NOT care less
@Grape Juice NOT…..anymore 🖖🏼
0 likes@SOLOMEA QUINN the phrase “I could not care less” does not rule out the possibility of caring at all. For instance, I love you and I care about you. I love and care about you so much that I could not care less. It is not possible for me to care less because I’m so in love with you.
1 likeP. S. I love you.
@policeMarcus Dude, in one comment you said the USA has the world's biggest economy, next comment you said USA has a failing economy. Which is it?
0 likesAlso you say 5 years in a Norwegian prison would be enough to rehabilitate this guy, and later you say that it's a case by case basis and everyone is different and it's up to the experts to work with prisoners and determine when someone is rehabilitated. So....you're an expert on Lee Rodarte even though you've never met him, let alone worked with him towards rehabilitation?
Don't pretend to be smarter than everyone.
@JAYDEE With USA's economy, the point was that, yes, in statistics, they have the biggest one. But if you look deeper, their debt is crippling them.
2 likesAnd in my judgement, Lee Rodarte may be rehabbed in 5 years, but for others it may differ depending on situation. Makes sense?
I think you're the one who didn't get the context of every respective comment.
@policeMarcus No my point was you have no idea how long it would take to rehabilitate Lee Rodarte. And murderers in Norway get 21 years, not 5 years lol.
0 likes@JAYDEE As I said, my point wasn't either that "all murders get 5 years in norway". But it was what I would deem appropiate, because I don't trust american judgement at all.
1 like@Tyler RubleYou can't see what could go wrong? Well that's good, because often nothing goes wrong.
1 likeRemember, Norway barely has any re-offendence rate and they rehab murders, so barely nothing goes wrong in fact.
@policeMarcus I just voted for you for president for that brilliant idea, yet you’re still attempting to make your point. Fine, you can be king. If you keep up the brilliance, maybe someday you can be emperor
0 likes@Tyler Ruble Doesn't answer my comment, does it?
2 likes@policeMarcus you should probably ask a question if you need an answer. That’s generally how it works
0 likes@policeMarcus What YOU deem appropriate, because you're such an expert with so many decades of experience, unlike actual judges who obviously have no experience and no idea what they're doing. You're more of an expert than judges are, right?
0 likes@JAYDEE As I said, I don't trust american judgement, because it's often unrealistic and overexaggerated.
1 like@Tyler Ruble I don't need an answer for anything right now.
1 like@policeMarcus Says the guy previously complaining about not getting an answer 👍
0 likes@Tyler Ruble I said I didn't get an answer but I didn't either ask for one.
1 like@policeMarcus English is hard for you isn’t it?
0 likes@policeMarcus What do you mean by unrealistic? I agree that there are HUGE problems with the American justice system, the main one is mandatory minimums for certain drug possession crimes, so a person gets sent to prison for years and years because they were a drug addict, when what they really need is treatment, not punishment. But I think people who commit horrendous, vicious, cold-blooded crimes of violence, especially premeditated murder, deserve harsh punishment. It is the state acting on behalf of the victim, who is no longer alive, and it is the state acting in the interest of public safety, and it is the state acting in the interest of justice.
0 likesIf you murder somebody in cold blood, with no regard for their right to exist, no regard for the endless pain you will cause to their loved ones, no regard for the law or the rights of another person, I think you deserve to be punished harshly. In general I disagree with the death penalty (except in the most extreme cases like war crimes) but I think murder should be punished by long prison sentences, including life in prison in some cases. It is simply an unacceptable act, and is antithetical to a free, open, fair society. Punishment is often the form that justice takes. It is society's way of saying that this act is so cruel that you do not deserve to be part of a free society.
@Tyler Ruble I don't think so.
1 like@policeMarcus youre right about this. But The US prison system is for profit and that 40 (less probly with bail) years is equal to probably hundreds of thousands of dollars of labour for pennies on the dollar. In this case though, if my daughter was brutally murdered for no reason by this guy, id be happy to have him rot. Violent murder is where I am okay with death penalty or never see the light of day. In other cases of violence like assault and whatnot, im all for rehabilitation. And I also don't think people should be imprisoned for drugs. Its a touchy subject. I probably would have agreed with you before I had a daughter, but the thought of someone murdering her so violently and senselessly and disposing of her body like its a piece of trash makes me ill and I would happily see her murderer executed and/or made to suffer.
0 likes@policeMarcus how long time have you served in Norwegian prisons? And which ones, as they indeed are not the same all over. And how many reoffending murderers are there in America? Here in Norway there are actually some of those. Sexual offenders are reoffending in high numbers, probably due to the short sentences and high focus on reintroducing them back in freedom, where they can find victims.
0 likesAnd yes I am Norwegian, and yes I base my knowledge on facts and not governmental propaganda.
@Ken Olsen I've never served in any prisons, and have never claimed to either.
0 likesI don't quite understand any of those arguments as those are points I've aleady taken up.
And why do you ask me the reoffendance rate of murders in america? Couldn't you search that up yourself before posting that comment? I'm not your google.
@policeMarcus no I never claimed that you were my google, my claim is more in the line of this:
0 likesBecause you have had access to google, and seen the video about a prison in Norway here on YouTube. You try hard to portray yourself as competent.
My conclusion after your response is actually just been reinforced by you. So thank you sir. Well done.
I too would like to be preepair for the Tomb Raidy
0 likesThank you for the update. This people always exaggerate when assuming a sentence time. For 1 murderer that usually doesn't happens. Even though they deserve it.
0 likesThanks for posting this here. They kinda left us hanging, you would have thought they'd update it in the comments. Thanks again.
0 likesThanks for the update homie
0 likes@uwuing all night Yes he did.
1 like@Andes Mint not enough
0 likesThat’s all he got was 40 years? That means he’ll be out earlier than that.
1 like@policeMarcus I wish America took mental health and psychology more seriously, and even if he was released, his life is over, he doesn’t have much left. If he is released, he’s going on the streets most likely, and he sure as hell isn’t going to be a playboy by that point. It’s hard to pity the guy, but the prison system in the U.S. is not very effective at the whole “rehabilitation” thing.
0 likes@policeMarcus it is pretty complex. I agree America should do better, much better, but what about psychopaths? How do you rehabilitate someone like that? Someone who is incapable of feeling empathy or sympathy for others? A person who is likely to cause pain to others for the thrill of it? What about rapists and serial killers? What about child predators? It’s a very, VERY slippery slope, and most people just want nothing to do with people like that, and for good reason.
0 likes@A Crazy Sheep Dog I've already answered that argument.
0 likesDetective: How long have you known Savanna?
1 likeLee: My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, a time of peace when the Avatar kept balance between the Water Tribes, Earth Kingdom, Fire Nation, and Air Nomads. But that all changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar mastered all four elements. Only he could stop the ruthless firebenders. But when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years have passed and the Fire Nation is nearing victory in the War. Two years ago, my father and the men of my tribe journeyed to the Earth Kingdom to help fight against the Fire Nation, leaving me and my brother to look after our tribe. Some people believe that the Avatar was never reborn into the Air Nomads, and that the cycle is broken. But I haven't lost hope. I still believe that somehow, the Avatar will return to save the world."
Coming back here to say I found a news broadcast that showed Lee actually ended up at the same prison his SISTER is at, who ALSO was convicted of murder as well. Their parents must be so proud
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whaat... 😮 who did she kill?
1 likeIts the Parents Fault.
3 likes@R671kZas w290mvak You got that right
0 likesI’d never seen a technique like the female detective’s before: an appeal to morality but pled so forcefully, as if Savannah’s own family were there.
10 likesAnd she guessed right. Judging by the back half of the footage, Rodarte was actually somewhat remorseful and could be gotten to that way.
with these videos not really showing much on the victims i find myself weirdly empathizing and it’s weird because i know he obviously deserves whatever consequence he is given but just hearing someone accepting their entire life is over and there destiny is to die in jail really screws with my mind.
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@Sport 2k I actually agree, it’s sometimes difficult to link the person to the crime when all you see is them cornered or seeming vulnerable. Plus, I think it’s natural to still have sympathy for someone who’s upset—it can be difficult to suspend that instinct even when you know the person is horrible. It doesn’t mean you don’t have sympathy for the victim or that you won’t feel angry towards the same person later, it’s just a “what’s in front of you” kind of reaction, in my opinion.
15 likesPersonally, the concept of having that psychological weight on you or being imprisoned for life is terrifying, so that resounds very deeply with me—a bit more so than getting murdered—and I think it’s normal for your reaction to match your deepest fears.
I understand what you mean
2 likesSympathize with him? Wtf? He murdered, mutilated and burned the body of a young girl and would have happily continued his life if they didn’t catch him. And you’re empathizing with him crying, not because he killed her, but because he got caught? And when he’s wailing, he’s saying ‘fucking Savannah’, basically blaming the victim for his fate? Nah, dude. I’m enjoying seeing him suffer and hope he got much, much worse inside.
6 likesYeah. As you just hear his story- and he is seeking sympathy and not guilty vibes. Makes sense. And you realize he is a killer.... so your good. Its part of psychology and not abnormal to sympathize with story of who your hearing..... trust
3 likesUnderstandable till a limit. It's only human to empathise but remind yourself he took someone's life and his guilt is because he got caught not that he killed someone
3 likes@William Cipher No sympathy for this monster. None of his tears illicit sympathy within me. Just regret that we don't do more to make criminals suffer than lock them in jail.
1 likeThat poor girl fought for her life. She managed to scratch him on his neck and arms, kick the door open 3x and fought so hard that the car visibly shook.
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What hurts to know is even then :( it wasn't enough
749 likesSuper Duper freak
54 likes@Super Duper she is dead man... not cool you should be ashamed...wauw
241 likes@Olli Rolli did you see the footage quality ? It would be hard to realize something is moving even if the Hulk was break-dancing in front of that shitty camera
206 likes@Super Duper Burn.
21 likesOllie Mann Which is so sad that Savannah didn’t make it. She tried so hard and scratched the shit out him. Sealing his fate.
164 likes@Super Duper That comment is disrespectful as hell to her. Ever been told to respect the dead?
71 likes@zejd land why?
56 likes@zejd land She was going to break up with him and there wasn't any time he was violent with her while dating so she didn't think he'd hurt her.
189 likes@Blake Walker i mean women have a natural instict for choosing men her failed or she just wanted the money... there was a reason she wanted to break up.. he probably did abuse her...
12 likes@Dan Franco he also took heavy drugs.. how did she see her future
13 likes@zejd land True but the investigation didn't show that he was an abusive partner. I'm pretty sure the poor woman was taken by surprise.
118 likes@zejd land So... like... you know this guy or what? Like personally
93 likesI always love when victims' valiant efforts are the main reason why badguys are caught
109 likesSuper Duper Jesus dude read the room
13 likesI mean, my windshield wiper shake my whole Jeep on the high setting. Might've been him kicking the door open as he was strangling her. Anyway, sad story, guy must have a very low IQ to resort to murder over something like an annoying junkie girl. Almost feel bad for him watching him weep like that, knowing he threw his life away, but then you realize he murdered a girl.
28 likesHas anyone seen the video of the guy that committed suicide on Facebook?
3 likes@Cody Richey You trying to find where to see it? I saw it a few days ago.
3 likes@EightySix no I found it and it was horrible I didn't know if anyone else has seen it
3 likes@Cody Richey Oh ok. Yeah it's pretty morbid and graphic but if you found it on the site I found it on, you've likely seen alot more gore than that! Shocking but yeah, 2020!
1 likeBlake Walker here is a better question, why should we? The dead don’t care.
0 likesI know people that shake the car by stepping into it, not trying to downplay her fighting but slightly moving the suspension isn’t impressive.
2 likesSkinny girls don’t get cake, fat girls don’t get murdered..... much.
5 likesdamian Babiec Wow victim blaming at its finest 😑
19 likesWhat a creep he is. She was only 100 pounds, had no chance of fighting back against him.
19 likesOllie Mann what did he say cause I think he deleted it and a lot of comments are saying something about what he said
5 likes@Cody Richey yes
0 likes@Baron Nuuke hahahhhwhahw
0 likesIt's very important for me to know what Super Duper said that has so many people pissed off in this comment thread
27 likes@Ese what did he write?
4 likes@Ollie Mann Prob not the best idea but what was the context of dudes comment? It's no longer here ): Simply curious as to what the cringe lord said
1 like@Time Eternal misogyny stay winning ig ? 😐
14 likesFeel like I'm missing out on the comments here, what did Superduper say, yall?
9 likes@Time Eternal uuuuh that smells like misogony
16 likesIf you're ever taking captive always try to fight with everything you have because if they move you to another location you're just about as good as dead
6 likesI wish she would've screamed too :/ might've caught more attention
0 likes@protatoplays games thank you Detective JJ bittenbinder, ur not taking me to any secondary location
8 likes@christopher what did he say
1 like@Kingof Grim why would you search a group that uses drugs??
3 likesNot to mention he used hard drugs...
You're one of those people that take drugs and then wonder why they're depressed and tired
@Kingof Grim grow up.. you won't reach money if drugs are pulling you down.
1 like@zejd land LMFAO no… I got depression due to a shit ton of awful events, trauma, and chemical inbalances..
10 likesI smoke weed like most people do. It’s not pulling money away from me… on top of it actually helping me treat and tolerate my depression and anxiety.
Also I wish I could blame weed for being tired all the time… unfortunately I have quite literally been tired since 3rd or 4th grade, just about everyday of my life
@zejd land you’re frankly just someone who doesn’t understand the world too well and very likely buys into the “war on drugs”
13 likes@Kingof Grim you should know that marijuana doesn't help with depression but makes it worse...
10 likesCountless studies on it..
Not only that but it makes your anxiety worser..
@Kingof Grim yes I also used weed ... but I don't try to use excuses to keep taking it..
8 likesNo it doesn't treat your depression or anxiety.. maybe in a short term you will feel a little better BUT IN THE LONG TERM it makes especially anxiety worse..
(Speaking from experience and scientific studies)
@Kingof Grim I was also tired from the 3 4 grade..
6 likesBut drugs won't help, I get how weed makes you feel... nothing matters and you feel like a god on it..
But it destroys your memory..(I still have problems with memory and clumsiness)
@zejd land LMAO pls if u really smoked weed before I need to see this bc the way you’re talking about it is the most undercover cop kinda way I’ve seen… since an undercover cop meme.
4 likesStudies do show it does not help depression much, however. I am unable to get medication for my illnesses at this point. (Also studies show weed GREATLY reduces anxiety… as well as the entire point of the drug is relaxation. But as always, it effects everyone differently, some get paranoid for example.)
Without weed I would be in a much worse spot than I am now. And with even worse coping mechanisms in an attempt to stop depression.
Also my memory always been destroyed so that ain’t matter much, concussions did way worse to me than weed has
@Kingof Grim studies show it helps in the short term but not long term.. so when you eventually will want to stop then your anxiety will get worse.
5 likes@zejd land to me that sounds like if I don’t stop it won’t make it worse! 😁 Thank you kind sir! I’ll never stop now :)
8 likesNot premeditated huh? This guy is nothing but a cold blooded killer. The Courts and juries need to wake up and smell the coffee.
4 likes@wh3elson cause idk tradition and the common belief of an afterlife. if you saw someone just piss on your grave from wherever you’d be angry right?
0 likesAnd NO ONE HELPED HER!
1 like@Kingof Grim Thank you for the John Mulaney reference.
0 likes@KingKodiakBear anytime
0 likes@Ollie Mann what did super duber say?
1 likeI wanted to say he killed her by accident in a hate filled moment judging by his reaction at the end, but I forgot this detail since it was mentioned so early on in the video. She fought for her life, and she has wounds on 75% of her body. That’s not an accidental “oops I killed her” thing, not that it makes it any better.
6 likesShit this comment breaks my heart ☹️
0 likes@protatoplays games Oprah's "aha" moment...20 years ago!
0 likes@Kingof Grim sure that's your choice but I bet you have somewhere that voice in the back that tells you that you should
0 likes@EightySix IQ has absolutely nothing to do with criminal actions, what are you on?
0 likes@zejd land Said the kid who still lives with his mom 🤣
0 likes@Margarita Magdalena 🇷🇺 what is your argument? I see none..
0 likes@Margarita Magdalena 🇷🇺 but I agree there is an age for a child to leave home..
0 likesKarl the Marxist didn't believe that.
@zejd land Okay kiddo.
1 like@Margarita Magdalena 🇷🇺 okay son
0 likesI get what ur trying to say but I can visibly shake a car easily
0 likes@vermili0n Sorry, I find this comment so infuriating. We're more aware that we need to live like prey, so I doubt your comment was revolutionary or even a reminder to any of us. We very often do have self defense tools handy... but we deserve to live a life where if we accidentally leave without a fatal weapon, we dont fucking have to die... we shouldnt need to be so concerned that each time we leave home we may need to fend off a murderer.
3 likesSo I'd like to offer you an edited version of your comment: This is why all you guys shouldnt kill us. Provide your kids with the skills needed to grow up without using violence against any man or woman unless saving a life is involved.
@EightySix Nah, fam. Malibus are on a different build than jeeps. It's pretty easy to rock a large vehicle, but the smaller and closer to the ground they are the harder you gotta be moving to visibly shake it. She fought hard--80% of her body had injuries.
0 likesAlso, she wasn't "just an annoying druggie." She was a human being. Have some respect.
@Outrun Sedans, especially like the Malibu, are pretty hard to shake like that.
0 likesPlus, she had wounds on 80% of her body. It was a pretty horrible fight.
@Ethan CR Alright, well, touche on the first point. Now, as for "having some respect", I have plenty. People often forget that this is the internet which is full of trillions of comments on thousands of platforms that as far as I'm concerned just go into the ether. My belief is that if you are too sensitive or unprepared to read every comment, from every lifestyle and background, ethnicity, race, creed, gender you get the point, you shouldn't be here, especially not playing moral police. Ted Bundy was also a human being, let's not get into this.
0 likesIf the cars-a-rocken don’t come-a-knocking
0 likes@Kingof Grim did you get concussions from sports? It's terrible how many young boys are neurologically damaged this way
0 likes@drownerofpikmin Formerly"AFKAAF"productions it actually does.... low IQ is correlated with level of criminality in Western cultures and likely others. It comes with less executive function to forsee consequences and inhibit impulsivity. More likely to be relatively poor and likely low in social standing with less to lose, etc.
0 likes@Jared yes unfortunately
0 likes@yarnpower Careful there, that’s sexist.
0 likes@Aaron King lol good one
0 likesEven if she were high at the time, that little lady was a fighter! She fought long and hard. But sadly, pure evil is stronger. RIP Savannah ❤️
0 likesAnd the women watching are turned on
0 likesYeah, we all watched the same thing you did, we know what happened. You’re not going to add anything of substance to your comment? Just going to write what you heard the narrator say happened ? Why? What’s the point of that. Is it fun to do that? Let me try. This guy lee killed her, he said he didn’t know anything about what happened, and then he admitted it. Okay I see now , Misskay, that was fun! I feel like I added to the whole video watching experience. You might be on to something here , Misskay. Thank you!!!!!!!!!! 🥱🙄
1 like@ToastyArmor the reason he was caught was the video evidence. The scratches were just a part of it. Not the reason.
1 like@Cody Richey no, what video? Where do I find it ?
1 like@yarnpower what’s that have to do with it lol. So if she was a big girl it would have been better ? Lmfao. ‘Oh he murdered his gf, but she was a whale so she was able to fight back. So it was actually kind of fair. ‘ lol , makes sense.
1 likeBruh I can make the car shake just by farting - not a big deal
0 likesThat female detective is really on it. She is straight up destroying these interrogations. I almost confessed to killing savannah.
1 likeDetective: "So how long have you known Savannah?"
18 likesLee: "We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones... "
You can do this JCS. You create incredible content. We notice this.
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JCS can't keep doing this with YouTube's arbitrary rules.
1 likeI went to high school with Savannah Gold at Mandarin high, class of 2011. Never in a million years would I guess Lee would murder her, who I also personally knew. I'm still friends with them on Facebook. Crazy
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Crazy you knew both of them. Did you have a connection to the Bonefish? They are about 10 years apart in age so I feel like Lee's only connection to Savannah was the BoneFishGrill
1 like@Landon Torppey Let me correct myself. I went to HS with savannah and had classes with her. Lee was a popular friend of everyone and was at every party.
3 likesThe detective asked him one question about how he knew her and he literally talked himself into trouble.
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literally🤣🤣 he ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed. It got funnier and funnier as he told his life story trying to answer a question about a co-worker
308 likesLegend has it he’s still talking about how he knew her.
194 likesYea I kept double tapping cause I was tired of his bull shit, and my thumb got tired
44 likesSo, lemme get this right, they did a couple drugs together?
7 likesIts the adderall
15 likesDid you or did you not know Dookie Shoes?
6 likes“Knew her for 8 months... we started hangin out... we did drugs together... yeah i killed her”
50 likesIt doesn't matter whether he talked or not.
5 likesJust the cameras alone evidence would be probably enough to convince him.
Yes
0 likes@bladee_ He's smart in a social aspect, not so much other aspect, and thats what investigators prey on.
1 likeyou have no idea how many people think talking to the police is a good idea. Im a cop, its not, lol.
8 likes@Faqyur Ma'ama it test the same bc it is the same. adderall is just perscription meth
0 likesdon't say more than you are asked 🤣
0 likesThe female officer was so cringe. I know she’s just doing her job, but her acting was so, “soap opera” level bad.
4 likes@Mia Smith Race sure covers a lot more territory than it used to.
0 likesthey had him on video and was the last person to see her. Game over man
1 likeYep, something like 90% of criminals get convicted on their own statements. Good thing they're too stupid to keep their mouth shut and lawyer up or I'd have nothing to watch lol
0 likesThe trouble that he brought upon yourself
0 likesI would act so suspicious cause I am naturally talkative
0 likesWell, he murdered himself into trouble
3 likesWell he murdered her so….
0 likesIt's is a thing of beauty... That it is
0 likes@Jack Trade it would’ve not been enough. You can’t recognize him in the camera picture
1 like@DogeLife he was not recognizable on the video
1 like@Shellman that’s the thing, luckily they got the right guy
0 likes@Tom Staunton Adderall is an amphetamine, very similar to methamphetamine but not quite the same. So different you can see a physical difference between the two molecules.
0 likesTo Andrew McG: I agree: Too much talking and trying to impress: A bad platform for this.
0 likes@DogeLife No, the video wasn't enough: The cops didn't even have a body so they needed a confession to prove murder.
0 likes@Musical Box Yes because just everyone knows extensively about ADHD medication & it's chemical makeup. For God's sake I've met parents giving the shit to their children without even knowing it's likeness to meth.
0 likesGod damn it YouTube, I miss this man 😮💨. We love and miss the shit out of your glorious work JCS. I hope we can all find a platform that you can continue on so we can support you more💞
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Yes! When I first discovered JCS I flew through all of the videos in virtually no time at all. I've watched some of these "JCS Inspired" channels, and there are some decent ones, but I miss JCS so badly!
1 likeDo you know WHY he stopped making/posting videos on YouTube?
@Marta Hardt classic YouTube censorship and unfair algorithm concerning more serious video subjects. Basically since JCS isn't a main news channel or a larger creator, he got the shit end of YouTubes content "rules" on the subject matter of some of his stuff. Not only is this completely unfair to JCS, as his videos weren't anything less than proffesional and genuine, but also just solidifies how much of a mess YouTube is as a corporation and how they aren't made for the little guys anymore.
1 like@Erin Wnuk Wow... Seriously??? That's is such BS. Especially since there are multiple channels that have pretty much the EXACT SAME videos as JCS! Thats very upsetting. I wish I could boycott YouTube, but **sigh**, we all know I can't actually stick to that... Thank You for the info though!
2 likesWith the car door being kicks open 3 times and a struggle inside- I I’m surprised no walking by standers witnessed the struggle and tried to help her.
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Sadly I'm not. More often than not people won't get involved.
4 likesI fully agree, the female did very well the other interigator should NOT EVER interupt her again if she gets going.She analyzed him perfectly. She also gave her colleague ample time to do his thing.
33 likesI wish there was more. I just found this channel and it’s so bittersweet. Love the length of videos too. I really enjoy seeing the full picture and not just a sparks notes version of events.
0 likesWhoever invents a securitycamera with more than 10 pixels is gonna be rich.
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the cameras already exist, whoever invents cheap storage for hundreds of hours of HD security footage is gonna be rich
13937 likes@Pseudo Nym the storage already exists.
10085 likesWhoever invents institutions that would either care or know how to upgrade decade-old systems - that guy is gonna be rich.
The guy who created urinal pucks was a low key genius.
5099 likes@Loiso Pondohva the storage exists for sure but the main reasons institutions refuse to upgrade is because of cost IMO. not that it's not a worthy investment but they just don't wanna go balls deep on 100s of terabytes of storage cause "if it aint broke don't fix it." keep in mind an hour of 1080p video is just over a gigabyte and having to store all that over a long term (something like 200 GB per day per camera for up to 90 days) poses a definite challenge. Either way ur right, institutions don't care to spend money on this sort of thing, but the less it costs the more they start to consider it.
2344 likes@Pseudo Nym sure, and if it was free, they would upgrade even sooner.
557 likesThe point is, cost is rarely a deciding factor in institutions.
It's lack of will and initiative. The relative cost of systems that are currently installed in most government institutions was far more at the time of their installment, than a cost of comparable 1080p system now. They were installed just because the need became undeniable as old systems aged. Current systems haven't aged to that extent, and the process of dragging upgrades through all the instances of decision-making, procurement and installation is a long process itself.
And 1080p video is 40 gb per 24 hours, not 200. Neither are 24-hour feeds stored for 3 months.
But suppose they were.
That makes a 10-camera system of 1080p video producing 400 gb per day, making it 36 tb in 3 months. And that is 600 - 1200$ in HDDs. Less than it typically costs to state to hold ONE inmate for that time by a factor of 2-5 depending on the state.
Ironically the mcds I worked at had crystal clear footage where we could zoom in on ones finger. And that footage was stored for a week.
467 likesnot possible
22 likesDude they already make 4K Cameras with facial recognition technology these guys were just too cheap to have them installed or just didn't see the need to do it.
250 likesY'all are too savage about the camera quality in these comments lol 😂😂😂
305 likesWhoever invented the Internet is going to be rich
131 likes@mike h I just explained why it's not.
14 likesYikes, ok guys, I know there are better cameras out there. Obvious joke apparently was not obvious! :D
68 likesThe real problem isn$$$$ most places just buyin fake cameras lol
11 likesJohnnie
21 likesSo right you are Johnnie.
Sometimes an eye witness talking to a charcoal sketch artist will yield a better likeness than most of those cheap obscurity cameras.
@Jennifer Green Hey this is some real shit real discourse
5 likes@Pseudo Nym yh but even 720p would suffice
7 likes@Jonathan Rampersad naw, it wouldnt because once you mechanically zoom in it is not going to be much better. If you wanted a clear video that you can get zoomed stills you need hd at least at 1080 60fps any lower and the stills . What we really need, is for someone to invent a system that can record each hour and zip the folder to compress the data. Then if poloce are looikng for a certain time they can unzip and the video will be HD
22 likesUgh... STORAGE!
5 likes🤣😂🤣😂
1 like2011- those quailty cameras were in existence and open to the public to buy LoL 🤣
3 likes@Loiso Pondohva i already exist.i gonna be rich
5 likes@Jordan Thistle Well, video files are unable to be compressed by much seeing as how the original video format is already compressed. So zipping video files would save little if not any space at all. The solution to this problem definitely lies with storage, whether it be physical or cloud storage.
23 likes@nando lance I just wanted to sound smart lol. I actually have no idea about this kinda thing 🤣.
18 likesPseudo Nym it’s called arrays.
0 likesPseudo Nym ... Like Amazon, Microsoft or Seagate? I think maybe you’re not too familiar with modern surveillance cameras, memory card and cloud storage options and pricing.
4 likesIt’s very cheap.
Loiso Pondohva Modern systems are a fraction of the cost of old surveillance systems.
0 likesJordan Thistle Uh. That’s a 10 Pinocchio Pants-on-Fire statement. Exactly none of that is true.
0 likes@Adam Rodgers You're out of your element, donnie!
6 likes@Dark Archon Except 4k footage is hundreds of gigabytes. And now imagine having security footage of the entire week in 4k. You would need Microsoft servers to hold all that data
3 likesWe use some nice Avigilon cameras at work that has crisp picture day and night even at 40x zoom. Each camera is $20,000. And that's exactly why almost no surveillance footage looks good. It's expensive.
12 likesI am invent one with 10.5 pixels and profit.
5 likesThey send those to Mars...lol
0 likesBest I can do is 11.
2 likesOh wait no... that was a crumb... back to the drawing board.
@Loiso Pondohva this.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym The archived data could easily be compressed and decompressed as necessary though. The technology and possibility exists, people are just apathetic
1 likeVivint
0 likesJust need to adopt the UK's system. They have great cameras and great public use of surveillance. Great for tracking missing people. Awful for public privacy.
3 likesThe footage was probably extremely zoomed in. The camera was probably near or mounted on the building and the cars were parked pretty far away from the building.
15 likes@Loiso Pondohva The storage for exabytes of data for cameras over the whole country stored for at least 2 months back does not exist. Its an insane amount of storage and would increases exponentially with higher quality cameras. The reason its low definition is so that they can tell someone was there or something happen but not more. Its a decent compromise.
12 likesThey got the confession from a shitty camera.
@Andre Eijbers Compressing and decompressing are still not free and require processing power, which in turn requires money to buy that processing power (using on-premises infrastructure, cloud services, etc.)
3 likesYou just delete old footage.... recycle your space i guess
1 like@l m Most policies for companies require a 2 month easily accessible back-up and up to a year on tape or other large but slow storage.
8 likesDo you realize how much data would be consumed in 2 months of constant footage in HD?
You can identify people now, but would require exponentially more data to see their face and or nr plate. which wouldnt add much to the investigation.
Adam Rodgers to be completely honest, this might be the most true comment I’ve read on this whole app. 😂
0 likesJohnnie it’s the interwebs...nobody knows how to take jokes on here anymore lol
5 likesmatthew scoles good old Tom....wonder what ever happened to him. 😂
0 likes@Alexandre Nicastro You cant use cloud storage for such a problem its far too slow. When moving such large storage its faster to send it by train and then locally transfer than ethernet infrastructure.
5 likesUnless you have a dedicated site to site 100 terabyte link. like some campuses can have for super computers.
Theyll put potato dealers out of business
2 likesPseudo Nym Of course you’re gonna be the guy that has to go from 10p to 1080 in one jump.. If security footage would have even 360 or 480 you would be able to see more than the primary colors of the scene..
2 likesIt's an issue of storage. And IT bugets. The cost or storing footage from dozens or more HD cameras is prohibitively expensive. Especially if they are required to keep footage for a specific length of time. Even with moderns video compression, that shit adds up fast.
10 likesSource: IT guy
@Tyler Garrison 🙏 another rational soul. Instead of just thinking cameras sucks. They got the conviction, meaning the resolution used did it's job 🙏🙏
4 likesThey costs are no problem, whoever gonna make people and police officer uncorrupted gonna be rich
0 likes@DrifterMW the police doesn't get enough money as it is. That is why they are corrupted lol.
0 likesThe training an American police goes through is pitiful compared to many other countries. And in these times they are so desperate that they let people in who don't pass the background check. Which feeds the machine even more.
So where is the money gonna come from then, you think?
Omg so true.
0 likesThe camera is likely very far away and that is a zoomed in shot of the area in question.
0 likesLook up the UK CCTV cameras, they zoom in like crazy but it gets grainy.
It's only when other people are doing crime that the footage is grainy.
3 likesIf you're out committing a crime they'll have it in Crystal clear hd.
@Pseudo Nym No, it really doesn't. Especially considering the existence of cheap cloud data storage.
0 likesThe issue still is storage. I work with an company who still uses vhs tapes for some cameras where video footage is a must, simply because its cheaper, and for others the camera it just takes a still image every x seconds because the bill to upgrade and store the data would be a contract the runs in 10s of millions. The cameras are simply meant to be a deterrent and this is probably true for a lot of organizations
5 likes@Captain Hindsight Tell that company to buy some up to date cameras and a cloud storage subscription.
0 likesIt really wouldn't be that expensive for them to upgrade and get an actual functioning security system.
Cloud storage is a no-no
7 likesIt's prone to breaches and alike.
Oh yeah also it can be tampered far easier than local drive. Dunno tho, I was thinking of near-dystopian justice system. Maybe i was just too pessimistic and thought too far.
@Moridaaa Cloud storage is not prone to breaches. And I don't imagine breaches are your primary concern if you connect it with a security camera.
1 likeI also don't think burglars have the know how for being black hat hackers.
@Your Average Imperial Guard then tampering with the evidence will be the highest concern. You could access cloud from anywhere. I don't know the details about internet security (since I'm an expert) soo correct me if I'm wrong
2 likesOffline storage has a failsafe which is CCTV to guard the room, CCTV leading to the room, and CCTV outside of the building (if there are any). Tampering with offline storage will require more work and prone to mistakes that lead to being discovered.
"But there is simple thing like Date Modified"
Let's see. If the evidence is tampered (especially without offline backup), it IS still gone. Access history could be tracked but I think position scrambling software is quite accessible to public.
(On the part above, I'm not certain on how far the internet security goes, I might have dumbed it down. In such case, please do enlight me.)
If you're talking about special encrypted cloud storage that require physical appearance on access room, I have zero idea about such system. If there is none, it would be....VERY expensive to develop, I think.
(Below is purely my theory)
Also, blackhat hackers are sure not common. But on Epstein level case, suspect might have access to such people.
If some people could tamper with offline storage (which is I think is harder), then someone could tamper with online storage.
Please do correct me though, since I'm not a computer-related graduate and would like to listen to people with far more competent knowledge.
Holy shit i wrote too many shit for sure
0 likesI believe the video is of good quality however it has been enlarged to a great extent.
3 likesRight? Until then- Crime For Everyone!!
0 likesmike h hdds are cheap don’t even get me started you can get 2 terabytes for 40 dollars, the problem is that they’re not as fast as ssds, but frankly in an investigation I’d rather have the crystal clear footage and have it take a minute to load than have grainy footage and nothing to go from
0 likes@Pseudo Nym That and elite file compression is where it's at!
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva the institutions don't care. whoever invents the trojan virus that goes out and destroys all 10 pixel security cameras in existence is going to be famous...not rich...but well liked.
1 likeIs that even possible?
0 likes@Pseudo Nym Magnetic memory here I come!
0 likes@Pseudo Nym Over-writing is a thing.
0 likesWell most places keep their record for quite a bit so having a high resolution just drive up cost if you’re recording 24/7
1 likeHave you seen this guy Bonefish Grill hired? Like, if that's who they can afford, they def can't afford decent cameras.
0 likesIf that camera had any less pixels it would be a radio
3 likes@Pseudo Nym yes whoever invents free hd security cameras with unlimited free storage is going to change the world, but he wont be rich
2 likesIts because the lower the quality the lower storage needed for it, the storage is much more expensive then the cameras
0 likesAlthough I'm not entirely sure as to why, I'm pretty sure that there's a reason that they have cameras like this.
0 likes😂
0 likes@Pseudo Nym It was a red light camera, it probably was HD but there's a limit to view distance. The camera wasn't set up to capture the adjacent parking lot of a bonefish grill.
5 likesWhoever makes it affordable for places to buy will be poor.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym Nah its a system where it automatically deletes footage after a set time to clear space. Most commonly after 24 hours.
0 likesIt’s just the fact that the file size for larger resolution would be too massive to store cheaply
1 likeLoiso Pondohva file size depends on compression and encoding not just the resolution too. I’ve had many videos that are only a couple of hours long at 1080p be over 20gb
2 likes@Pseudo Nym TO THE CLOUD!
0 likesEverything needed is already there, problem is cost and changes in workplace. But honestly having hd camera in interrogation room would seem really helpful to observe expressions small details.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym if I can buy a 4tb External HDD for $50, the storage does exist
0 likesThose businesses so cheap with the cameras them mfks be running 240p
0 likesOh boy that cracked me up
0 likesLOL - That's all....
0 likesOh wait, no... Also, interrogation production videos could be better too. I wonder if it's on purpose. It's not hard these days, and this is recent. I also wonder if there's a tactical, psychological, or legal reason for this lack of HD. For crying out loud, we be doing 8K+ these days... lol
@Pseudo Nym then where does all the 240p video get stored? at least 720p could be good
0 likes@mike h you can store it in the cloud
0 likesLmao😂
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva I mean sure but not multiply that with each station and the fact they actually have to save it for quite a long time, I believe. I'm not 100% sure how long but I wouldn't be surprised if it's years. So it's not a one time cost either.
1 likeIt would quickly add up.
It's called smartphones
0 likes@Pseudo Nym thousands*
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva Full HD @30fps on an iphone 6s is 7,6GB per hour or 180GB per day. Police stations often keep footage for 180 days so that means little over 32TB per camera; which is 1000 bucks in HDD storage. A NAS that could store enough drives for 8 camera's is 5000 bucks. Not sure how 1.600 bucks per camera just for storage is somewhere near cheap
3 likesWhoever finds the key to dark matter will be rich
0 likesbasically you have a choice HD quality videos stored for less time e.g. keep the footage for only one month or lower quality footage stored for a longer time e.g. keep the footage for 6 months. That's why security cameras are lower quality because it's deemed more important to be able to store the footage for a longer time rather than increase the quality of the footage
3 likesThe cameras at my house are better than this
0 likesok quick... make it 11 pixels.
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva well, we can get there eventually if we start investing in education. There are plenty of people who want to do these things, but not near enough because they arent educated on these issues enough to know the real and dire need for it and other things.
0 likesLol, no one is buying 10 4k cameras for "surveillance" that would break any bank
2 likesyou don't even understand how much storage and file delivery time is gonna take with 1080p.. its really fucking expensive and time consuming
2 likes@Siwi the Costco I worked at has that too
1 likeI worked at the cell phone kiosk and there was a few incidents of theft I got to see their setup, and holy FUCK hahaha
It's like full HD with optical zoom haha, no loss in quality even when zoomed in
They can see your whole face crystal clear, have all angles covered, it's crazy
@Pseudo Nym Look at DNA digital data storage. Some of the coolest tech I've seen in some time
0 likesOr someone could become rich if they invent a 10 foot wide, car registration plate
1 likeits not the camera that is bad, its that the footage is intentionally recorded in small size because recording footage 24/7 takes insane amounts of storage. try recording something in full HD for 5min and see what file size you get. now imagine recording 24/7. no one has such huge sized storage servers in companies for such thing as security camera that mostly records nothing important.
1 like@Moridaaa i like your foto i know its handmade and these make it more beautifull 🤘
2 likesStorage is easy, convert your recordings to a smaller file type - like .mov or something and it will definitely still contain way more clarity than low quality footage.
0 likes@Tyson Holyfield Tim Berners-Lee invented WorldWideWeb and gave it away for free (for the good of humanity - and fuckin lovers of fuckin cute fuckin kittens!)
0 likesMajor props to those detectives who saw that shitty security cam footage and could determine that the car was a Chevy Malibu or that the guy was 5'11"
0 likesA guy mugged my friend at knife point on an ATM security camera directly on him and the footage is too grainy to convict anyone.
0 likesIll make one with 11 pixels. How about THAT
0 likeswhoever invents a vidya game where you can date bts members in vr is gonna be rich
0 likes@Alain Lalonde
0 likesdo you really think there is any incentive to be doing these in HD? a courtroom doesn't need an IMAX projection screen because these aren't filmed for homebodies to binge online. they just need recognizable visuals and audio.
Quality of archived footage from CCTV is improving on a curve. This particular footage was cropped and enlarged so the quality is poor. If you look at the whole frame it has a lot of detail of the carpark but they zoomed in.
0 likeswhoever invents something that stops my children from taking a toilet roll from the packet and leaving it somewhere instead of on the holder is gonna be rich 😂 sorry it's my cleaning day today and I'm getting triggered by random things
0 likeshahahhahahaha omg i have no emojis
0 likes@Pseudo Nym Storage shouldn't be an issue. If you film in 1080p at 30 FPS, you could get a month's worth of video on a little over 10TB of storage. You can set security cameras to loop over old footage. If you don't catch a need for footage in a month, then you're doing something seriously wrong. That being said, 10TB of storage will run you $600-700. You could easily scale that to much longer for pennies for a business.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym Pretty sure there are compression techniques to make 1080p way below gigabyte while still keeping majority of quality by now.
1 likeit has to be low resolution otherwise you would need a tone of storage!
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva It already exists. Whoever creates more funds for police so they can buy their product is gonna be rich!
0 likesI'm not interested in developing this so here's the best idea if you want to store it locally:
0 likesHave high quality 1080p footage for last 24 hrs, then have the buffered footage quality get transcoded into increasingly lower qualities.. the next 2 days could be 720p.. and then you could probably store weeks of footage in 480p. Maybe you could do this w/ like 20TB? Obviously you may want redundant drives though.
@Tyson Holyfield I think Al Gore invented it.
0 likesUhm.
2 likesDunno about the us but here in germany we have 16 1080p 24fps cameras in the store. Have to delete every 2 weeks though.
A simple server does it. It's not that expensive and worth the cost.
You catch every thiev.
i’m sobbing 💀💀💀💀😫😫
0 likes@Adam Rodgers the guy who reinvented them to minimize splash and put targets on them as well
0 likesNever saw this comment section coming on camera clear shot
1 like@Loiso Pondohva if it was free? THEY GET PAID BY THE STATE IT IS FUCKING FREE FOR THEM. They just spend the money on APC's and the latest fucking tactical jack boots to stand on your neck with. ACAB.
0 likesWe can get clear Pictures of the moon and planets, yet can’t get clear pics from 3ft away 😂
2 likesGod I work security and this is true. I think it’s because a lot of those cameras are really old. We’ve been getting some new cameras when some need to be replaced and they look super HD
0 likessome would say they may even be employed by nasa
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva whoever invents a money tree is going to be rich
0 likes@Pseudo Nym S3 standard cost per gb is $0.023
0 likes@Adam Rodgers also insanely rich rn lol
0 likes@Adam Rodgers damn is that what theyre called by people? ive always called em urinal cakes
0 likesThe thing is that running a high quality security camera 24/7 would make a lot of businesses run bankrupt real fast. You would need to rent a server to store the video which isn't cheap and that would probably only last for 1 month of 24/7 footage
0 likes@Tyler Garrison there could be some compression teqniques put in place that would significantly decrease the file size. Just brainstorming here
1 like@Loiso Pondohva Not true.
0 likesI own a business not generally open to the public. I don’t have random people stopping, nor do I have cash or whatnot. The cameras are just around the building, especially the warehouse where expensive tools, equipment, and scrap copper is stored. All valuable to thieves.
The truth is the deterrent is the camera, not the actual video. If someone was going to break in, then they can spoil the camera with a simple mask. Putting in expensive cameras and data storage on the possibility someone who breaks in is stupid enough to do so without hiding their identity. Let alone someone murdering someone else in its view by chance.
@Loiso Pondohva But...but, if it were free the inventor wouldn’t be rich. Wasn’t that the goal here??! /s
0 likesjs the quality is better than pewdiepie's videos
0 likesChinese...
0 likesI bet Tesla Factory Security Footage is like 4k iin pixels and Dolby Suroundsound :D
0 likes@Tyson Holyfield not so, it was a public sector development.
0 likesWhy tf do people have cameras that probably cost more then my phone and still have like 10p quality 🤣 ITS 2020 WHY THEY STILL LOOK LIKE THAT BRU. I’m convinced it’s on purpose... jk
0 likesIt's not the camera that is the problem. It is the storage solution and the bitrate you have configured it to download and store it. Most cameras will record in 720p or 1080p but the storage solution cannot hold much footage at those resolutions so even though it records at a high resolution it gets downscaled and stored at a lower one resulting in the images you see in these playbacks.
0 likesYou win the internet today
0 likes@Pseudo Nym cloud storage with aws or microsoft fixes all of this
0 likesIam gonna be rich someday, getting ideas from YouTube comments🧐
1 like@Loiso Pondohva The police should organise servers for hd camera's in know trouble area's.
0 likesThese videos are almost like tutorials for people who commit bad crimes
0 likes@Adam Rodgers haha
0 likesit's about the storage not the camera
0 likesLook at the camera on the wall, the second angle. It's disguised to look like an outlet, maybe the main one is also disguised and the film or whatever covering it makes it blurry?
0 likesThe trick to beating a security camera is to rush it as a group making sure there are more people than pixels :D
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva great comment
0 likesThey've got cheap storage, but they would rather store what sort of soap powder you use and how often you play fortnite, and enable you to watch films you've seen 100 times before over the internet all day, than use it for anything useful.
0 likesBut they've had potato cameras for decades and they still refuse to use them!!
2 likes@Loiso Pondohva Ok but this wasn't a "government institution" it was a restaurant so that's pretty much irrelevant.
0 likes@Jena Cide we were talking about interrogation footage here.
0 likesMy cereal is genius
0 likesIt's a matter of cost
0 likesIt'd be more expensive
You wouldn't just hang something worth a lot of money out in public
@Loiso Pondohva brilliant
0 likesGood joke.
0 likesOkay, lets move on.
WHEN quality of image (pixels per inch) is gonna get to level that you can zoom to anyone walking street to his finger tip and camera is able to clearly get lines of that hands finger print.
Its will gonna be called new 'digital dna' proof.
Plrase dont anyone press thumbs up yet, but save it to day it will be launched. Then i'll pull this message and screen shot of this (on 01.15.2021) and will give interviews for money, and there is more intresting info according to this matter. Until that day peace out.
Yep, im a pretty smart guy -thank you.
@Joe I could ask for my lawyer but how about I just tell you how I did it.
0 likesSo 11 pixel? I think I can do that. Will just take a 12 pixel one and get rid of one pixel.
0 likesWhoever sells the high def tech and storage at an affordable price is the problem.
0 likesThink about the environment guys. Sortve running outta bamboo here.
0 likespied piper baby
0 likesor rather, mandatory high resolution security cameras.
0 likesEntitled millennial alert!!! Entitled millennial alert!!
0 likesThere's enough detail to understand what's going on. I don't see the issue.
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva Simple solution to bad security cameras: The government finds the money.
0 likesnot the camera its the way its stored, made storage space cheaper and bigger and u solve the problem.
0 likesI’m gonna invent it. And I’m gonna be rich. Every can get a one time 5% discount for a high storage and high pixel security camera under $35!
0 likes@Pseudo Nym most security systems re-record over it after a set amount of time. Usually about 48 hours. That's about 50gb per camera amounting to around 18 cameras for 1TB hard drive if you decide to be a complete cheapskate and put your OS and recording software on the same drive. Decent 1TB hard drive is 100$ at most.
0 likesWe are randomly saying that the one that invest that atuff will be rich. Someone who reads this and has the money actually invests in it and get lots of money....
0 likes@Tyson Holyfield Al Gore IS rich.
0 likesIt’s the storage of HD that’s costly. Still, it doesn’t appear that the quality has improved much in the past 25 years. You can barely make any of these people out. WW1 footage has more definition
0 likeslol @ 10 pixels!
0 likesThat camera was already a high resolution camera. The problem is that the important part of the image is so far that we have to zoom in a lot in order to see anything. Obviously in all digital cameras, when an image is zoomed in, it pixelates.
2 likes@Suburban Housewife The difference between this and surveillance is, this is required by law to be saved for so many years(along with every single other interview/interrogation). Surveillance footage at a business can be over written everyday/week or month. Both have very different quantities needed for storage.
0 likes@l mOnce the case is closed, this becomes public record and by law, MUST be archived for a specific amount of time. Police can't just erase one video to make room for an other.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym 4 month loop delete and loop 🔁
0 likesSecurity camera footage has to be low-quality because the camera is filming 24/7 and that much HD footage wouldn't be able to fit on their computer. It has to be compressed so they can store hundreds of hours of it.
0 likesBig brain moment
0 likesThe guy who created cutlery now that was genius
0 likesThe Cecil Hotel must have had some good money 💴
0 likesUS people want their privacy and don't like cameras everywhere
0 likesThe interrogation room cameras are even terrible...
0 likesTouche!
0 likesLol. Yep. But the transfer from “American “ cameras to European cameras ( which are lots better ) messes up the Definition loads
0 likesCan't wait til this happens, year 2132.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym 480 would already be enough
0 likes@Pseudo Nym youre right, though in this day and age you would think we could have cloud storage and some crazy video compression software
0 likes@Pseudo Nym actually your wrong on that they will not upgrade or add additional storage or cameras until something terrible happens...then they run to their security company wanting done yesterday. I work in the industry and I can tell you there are cams that could had prolly recorded what happened in that car. Problem is like ya said people dont want to pay for real security. Well until something happens or something goes missing that's very important. I garuntee that this particular bone fish grill prolly spent some money on cameras storage and maybe a new video system just to prevent something like this happening again or at the very least to get a face or license plate capture. No one will kill and abduct in that parking lot again I'd bet ton in that. But if companies (that includes banks too(some still use black and white cams ) cared about security they'd regularly update there cameras every atleast 5 years and make sure they excellent coverage. And if they cared they'd reevaluate their camera needs every 2-4 years to make sure nothing happening around and in their property is lethal. Just my opinion. But most places have atleast 15 year old camera systems or older and expect thta to be good enough for insurance even though it's nothing to help investigators. I'm honestly surprised they got what they got.
1 likeCompanies like to pocket as much money as possible while investing as little as possible. There are already cheap 4K cameras and cheap storage drives. You can buy a set of 8 security cameras in 1080p with software included for as little as 150 from your local supermarket. You can get a set of 12 4k cameras with software included AND STORAGE hardware for less than 1000. Companies would rather they pocket that money instead for some rich ass CEO to get a few drinks at a fancy bar instead. This is the reality.
1 like@Robert Fierce yep thats true and when they do decide to upgrade security after an event, the money sure as hell won’t come out of the upper echelons bonuses, raises etc. instead they’ll hold off on lower level raises and bonuses for a year if they even do that. Or possibly cut People from payroll.
0 likes@war32mec Very true.
1 like@Pseudo Nym 1 hour of 1080p = 1 GB. 24 hours = 200Gb? But you are absolutely correct that storage is the reason we don’t have 24 hour 4K surveillance.
0 likes@Jordan Thistle That is not the problem, and is already easily doable, the problem is thata file can only be compressed in a zip to some extent.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym I used to think 1 TB was alot
0 likes@Pseudo Nym I don't think 1080p is good enough for surveillance
0 likes1440p minimum
0 likesIn countries that got the tech later they're much better quality, in places like the US they are shitty because you got the tech first but don't want to pay to upgrade. It's as simple and depressing as that I'm afraid.
1 likeI have Nest cams at home inside and out. 1000 times better than most cctv cams and only cost $100.00. And you can get cloud storage for $100 a year.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym imagine our brains are storing years of image in rar, just build little brains, attatch them to camera and voila
0 likesVery true
0 likesWhoever captures a sasquatch today with a smartphone camera is gonna be rich.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym this. My mom's workplace had a recurring issue with shrubs being stolen off the premises - but god forbid installing a quality camera that doesn't fog up to boot. Shrubs were being restocked 10x more often than the actual produce in the store
0 likesCamera installer - we have two models a 720p for $50 and a 50 megapixel PTZ for $100.
0 likesMillionaire strip mall owner - I'll take the cheap one.
Needs that RTX technology
0 likesLmao people dont know how cctv works at all most companies or regular buisnesses or just ur average home camera maby only has like max 10tb of storage and that is even alot, they cant capture hd fotage because most of the time its gonna fill in no time escpecially with more then a couple cameras, so the oldest footage will delete itself when its about to be full, so the lower quality the longer time u can keep old footage. most cctv if not all deletes itself after a couple months unless someone checks it and saves it.
0 likes@Adam Rodgers I think it was Benjamin Franklin.
0 likesThat thing that looks like an electrical outlet is actually a camera. Took me too long to figure this out. It also has about 10 pixels.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym: But if the taxpayer foots the bill who cares right? I'd rather money be spent on this than say the $1.7 billion of American taxpayer money that Hussein gave to Iran.
0 likes@Bill Wilson Exactly
1 likequit tweaking in the comments
0 likes@Amazing Grace messenger Look into a VPN for your phone.. The main way gov tracks you is through SIM card and web trackers. I use psiphon for android and firefox but there are other free ones and also different kinds of software to root out embedded trackers
0 likes@Pseudo Nym mans really said it was the storage that was the problem 😂😂 dunce
0 likesI doubt will have one until the year of 3265..
0 likesI think everyone has missed one important detail regarding security camera data storage. Multiply whatever you deem the data storage requirement to be by the number of strip malls, gas stations, banks, and every small business, etc. in America...
0 likesWhoever invents a storage method for that much simultaneous data is going to be rich.
The cloud is, I ,suppose the right direction and a good start but woefully inadequate. We will need next gen storage in the foreseeable future.
@Pseudo Nym 200GB x 90 = 18TB
0 likesSeagate 10TB HDD is $422
Total cost = $844
10 pixels
0 likesIs the best you can get
Hahahahaha hahahahaha!!!!!
0 likesWhoever invents the poop bucket is gonna be rich
0 likesMy house security cams are 1080p.
0 likesstraight up bro
0 likes@don’t plot twist: since commenting I have developed ovarian cancer in my throat...thanks for jinxing me
0 likes😂😂👍
0 likesRigt? Imagine the number of crimes that could be solved if the cameras were just a little but better.....so frustrating
0 likesHow to enrage Gen Z: show a video which isn’t in HD.
0 likesThis is perfectly visible! Once upon of time we had VHS and we didn’t grumble!
@Pseudo Nym there is ways of reducing that amount by alot, for example you could automatically remove all frames where nothing happens.
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva he said cheap. Storage is expensive.
0 likesEspecially if films are like 30 FPS as appears to the 5 frames per minute ones every convenience store has
0 likes@Pseudo Nym Expensive? what do you mean? If you go off your figures 1gb/hour for 90days is a bit over 2TB per camera which is around £50gbp for a HDD of that size. Also 200GB a day for 90Days like you claim is 18 TerraBytes so they wouldn't need "100s of terabytes" and your math doesn't really check out there.
0 likesAlso if they were even half smart they would use automated compression on the video footage and that 200GB a day would then all fit on one single 2TB HDD at 1:10 which is pretty standard rates you can get free.
Im pretty sure a company that earned $619M in revenue in 2017 can afford a single payment £50 for much better security that can be used for facial recognition for thiefs etc or in this case murderous employees, they're just being stingy trying to save every penny they can.
@Loiso Pondohva Comment again when you run your own business and have spec'd out and outfitted it for security purposes.
0 likesI thought police released the footage pixelated like that cause they don't want the Publix to see anything
0 likes@Roddy Piper's Irritated Corneas I worked 4 years as a lead network engineer for a company that installs and supports security, iot and customer interaction automation systems for big companies and the Russian government.
0 likesThere are a lot of companies that basically steal taxpayer money by marking up more than 1000% both due to corruption (same, but to lesser extent in the US) and marketing it as "guaranteeing 24/7 commercial support" and similar buzzwords.
But if you know the hardware market and work with the industry directly, and find great network engineers, not more of them - it's not that bad.
A small business wouldn't be able to afford it due to large upfront costs, but economies of scale make it work.
Our company has increased the tender price more than once just because clients refused to believe it can be done 3-5 times cheaper than some of the competition. But it can be, we are long past 90-s. Attitudes like "it can't be done for 5k, because that one company charged me 50k that last time" is the reason they keep getting away with selling low-grade hardware with obsolete networking and a 2005 server architecture for millions to taxpayers.
What’s with the 4K dislikes on the main video? Are there lee stans I don’t know about?
0 likes@Dark Archon if you look on Amazon those type of cameras aren’t that expensive either, under $100.
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva Those institutions exist, if there was some financial gain to upgrading old systems
0 likesSuch a great reply
1 likegiven police budgets are being cut, don't hold your breath waiting.
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva it already exists, whoever learns to use google is gonna be the smartest person alive 🤣🤣🤣
0 likesOOPS HERE IT IS
0 likes@Pseudo Nym tbh, I edit gaming videos and it took me like a week to learn how to compress files at keep the resolution, I'm pretty confident that you could hire a software engineer to. develop an algorithm that mass compresses footage every couple days/weeks whatever
0 likes@Pseudo Nym where is the fun in that
0 likesWhoever invents a compression algorithm that allows HD footage to be the size of peanuts will be rich.
0 likes@Adam Rodgers you mean bathroom candy?
0 likesYou can get a 16 camera system including recorder and 6TBs for about 6k usd. This setup would roughly get you 2 weeks of continuous recording at 1080p from all cameras before the footage is recorded over. Compression is a beautiful thing.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym It doesn't need to be a perfect 1080p blu-ray quality file. You can store the video in a much lower format/size and still make it look 100 times better than a mass of blurry pixels.
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva Whoever invents money that's worth more money....that guy's gonna be rich.
0 likesthe issue is storing the high quality footage.
0 likes@J M why compress it to 144p
0 likesThey have the best cameras in 3rd world countries
0 likesIt's just not needed. They just need this more for documentation purposes, not to ID anyone. Every person they bring into these rooms are documented and time stamped. It's more for reference than anything.
0 likes@Siwi that’s cause you’re probably more likely to get robbed at a McDonald’s than a bonefish grill
1 likeIMPOSSIBLE!
0 likes🤣🤣🤣Oh my god you’ve got a good point why are they so bad like is it on purpose
0 likes@Pseudo Nym they could just upload it for free to YT
0 likesMore like, whichever company decides to install decent cameras, is going to make millions with how many lawsuits the dont have to go through
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva What you’re asking for essentially is the equivalent of putting retina scanners on automatic doors in a school: absolutely not worth it for the actual purpose of the device.
0 likes@Tyson Holyfield Al Gore is already rich /s
0 likesIt's all about placement and lighting too though. Most cameras are high up. Having had to go to all neighboring businesses to get security footage, I found even with the places with 4k and multiple cameras all captured...the top view of someone in a hoodie and baseball cap. 😐
0 likes@Adam Rodgers low key high key no cap fire yeet dab
1 like@Siwi oof wouldn't mind you serving me a happy meal wheyyheyyyyyy
1 likeFor real!!
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva . . . . . ..the guy who invents the next DivX actuated vid compression algorithm is gonna be rich _cpt flies away.. . . .
0 likes@Tyson Holyfield whoever invented oxygen is gonna be rich
0 likesThese particular cameras are also a favorite for UFO footage...
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva it’s just not with it for s restaurant. At best better cameras at the register. Theft from employees doesn’t require high quality. Also footage of other type of theft like dine and dash is just useless in most cases.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym u mean thousands of hours if not more plus 480p is gonna be more than enough
0 likesWho ever invented x. Will be come x
0 likes@Jordan Thistle compression does not reduce video file size by much, even with the best and most thorough compression methods.
0 likes.........What's up with the trapezoidal window/mirror in the interrogation room?.....Or am I looking at it wrong?......If it is a trapezoid, is it a psychological interrogation technique?
0 likesA couple of things here, this is a parking lot security cam, probably as old as the shopping center. Second, police often dont release the highest quality images they have unless they are forced to. In this situation most of the video was still confidential. It's possible they made a recording of their footage and just used the old VCR in the basement of the PD....
0 likesTrust me security cams are pretty cheap and amazing. Storage isnt as cheap yet, but cheap enough....
Best comment of the year goes tooo
0 likes@Adam Rodgers Someone stole a urinal puck from our local bar, no one knows why.
0 likes300
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva no that guy is gonna be poor XD
0 likes@Adam Rodgers Ah, yes...Piss Biscuits. A must for every Spanky’s.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym I never thought about that, cheers
0 likesAlso depends on the laws, here in norway you cant realy have hd cameras outside.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym cant they just like use one of those things YouTubers use to store footage? Like an external harddrive but like industrial version?
0 likesI ain't gonna read the 308 replies. Problem is video cameras have to record for hours on end so footage that isn't new is normally compressed as to not waste space from hours and hours of footage. This leads to shitty video and audio. I think as long as it works then the government is going to keep cutting the costs.
0 likes@Adam Rodgers "what about urinal cakes?" I Love You Man
0 likesI think vivint has pretty good cameras!
0 likesindeed
0 likes@Pseudo Nym a 1tb hdd is literally like 50 bucks so that already exists
0 likes@Adam Rodgers
0 likesHe isn't getting any of my money...they taste awful imo
Having two to three days of 4k footage from multiple cameras takes up a lot of storage.
0 likesThey exist.. but whoever can do so magically and gets it installed all over the required places.. then... But now.. they'll be like "well, what about installation costs?"
0 likesThey don’t need to see how many freckles he has on his face. The record indicates it was him and this 360p video proves as much.
0 likes@Inquisitor Generally 360p? Its like 4 bits lmao
0 likes@Siwi can't steal fries at work gg
0 likeslol
0 likesEh I can see why a camera for a purpose like this one doesn't really need to be high definition, if anything happens you already know who was in the room at that time and it isn't likely something would take place where you'd need high definition footage of a room that's barely 2x2 meters.
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva Still do u have any idea how much storage, u gonna need??
0 likes@Mr. Random considering I do this professionally, I guess I do.
0 likesdont watch this shit. its bad for the general public. its produced and directed in a way to manipulate you to be overly influenced by fear media. this is not educational or informative.
0 likesSeriously wtf. All the money and merch is in this building but let's use a fuckin potato to document security footage.
0 likesIt seems to me that the camera in question might well have been high definition, it's just that the incident occupied a tiny part of the camera's view, due to being far away.
1 like@Pseudo Nym cheap and rich don't collab. It'll start costing more than an arm and a leg as soon as it becomes popular.
0 likesDude this comment killed me in laughter :) oh mann
0 likes@Siwi McDonald’s is a multi billion corporation and the stores bring in millions. I wouldn’t be surprised if their camera system used some kind of expensive cloud storage system
1 like@Loiso Pondohva The institutions already exist.
0 likesWhoever invents a little doo-dad that can scratch my arse and pat my head at the same time - that guy is going to be rich.
@Loiso Pondohva damn all these great ideas to get rich
0 likes@Pseudo Nym They could employ a similar solution to particle physics labs which generate terabytes of data each second. Simply apply a trigger with a reference for a normal uninteresting scenario and only store the data long term if the trigger tags the footage as sufficiently interesting.
0 likesThis cannot be applied everywhere, but there are many situations where it could be an improvement
a good Idea would be propably to save the vid in the same resolution as we do now but to Involve an algorythm that uses the whole resolution for the face and licence plates
0 likes@Pseudo Nym 5 minutes of 720 at 30 fps is already 3gb. But yeah, they don't really need high definition footage in these precincts.
0 likesThe man who invents digital flesh lights will be rich
0 likesthere are plenty of HD cameras now but the storage is the problem
0 likesI think it just might have done it 11 PIXELS yes yes very revolutionary
0 likes@Pseudo Nym Storage is cheaper now than it was when these cameras were installed.
0 likes@parkinsons you dont need 4k footage lmao my guy those cams are like 100p
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva " cost is rarely a deciding factor in institutions " (0_0)
0 likesIt's mind melting how many people confidently talk utter nonsense in these replies
3 likes@44R0N- DNA computing is some of the coolest tech. If you don't mind the slow read and write speed. Especially the read spread isn't to great.
0 likes@ACatFromPoland There are ways to compress images and video without losing to much data. Though most people here seem to gloss over a couple things.
1 likeWe don't know how often this video was compressed, before it got to YouTube. Which adds another compression run.
Security Cam footage usually isn't watched on a 4k, 24"+ monitor, most of the time its in like 800x600i, which then gets converted to 800x600p and then gets stretched to 1080p. So the aspect ratio is changed, the video has been deinterlaced (which can't be done lossless), the video got uploaded on some website, then downloaded, edited, rendered and uploaded to YouTube were it was compressed again.
So yeah no need to read 300 replies, because they all talk about the camera sucking and not about how much this footage got altered before it got into this video.
@Gavrata No it isn't. The problem is the pipeline this footage went through.
0 likesThe security cam footage is just probably deinterlaced, the aspect ratio changed and compressed more then once. That's if it wasn't digitalised from an analog signal.
The original video is perfect, the problem is people who keep stealing them from other channels and uploading them as their own are butchering the quality when they put it through their cheap software that they have no idea on how to use.
0 likesAs someone who has to deal with security cameras as part of their IT job... I'm not really sure what to say..
0 likestoday's storage/cloud options are super cheap compared to like 10+ years ago...but the problem is companies don't care... why fix what isn't broken? we can see blobs today, and it meets the 30, 90, 120 whatever day requirement for footage
today's cameras are really clear, and instead of it being hard to make out a car at 100ft, it's hard to make out someone's Face at 100ft.... but why bother with the cost of upgrading when today's solution "works".. new locations at my job will get better cameras, which we usually lower the quality quite a bit (still better than the old cameras) for the sake of storage which no one wants to spend money on either. older locations get a analog BNC connection type camera (much lower resolution) whenever a camera breaks because upgrading the infrastructure in that location as to support the better cameras, is deemed not important by the business and reasons like cost and priority are brought up
when you start talking 100+ locations, 12-48 cameras per location, 90+ days of footage... the numbers get BIG and FAST and the business is like "IT? Storage? Resolution? what do those even mean, just get the cheapest thing" so... you and your co-workers propose some 250k plan and managements laughs at you piece meals your plan together and gets some 80k+ number.
then people just go about their business as per usual... "why do your cameras suck This bad? when are you going to upgrade them??" .... when you JUST upgraded them LOL
TLDR: whoever convinces senior management at companies, that their camera systems can be 100% better overall, while also undercutting the market for security systems.... is going to be filthy rich
The top 3 comments are too funny 😂😂
0 likesRight?
0 likesFOR REAL! Or at least an affordable one so people would fucking USE them!!
0 likes😂
0 likes@Adam Rodgers I know the guy and family. Yes they are rich
0 likes@Pseudo Nym Sometimes it would already be enough for it to take an HD photo every second or so.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym yeah, HD security cameras use a LOT of memory. have some on a property and it exhausts the entire monthly wifi budget in less than a week. though, i feel that an upgrade to a few of the cameras as needed would be well within their budget. maybe it's not quite needed here, though.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym I do security for a research center and the cameras only record when there's movement.
0 likesTalking to a guy I know who installs security equipment a while back, most places like large businesses don't upgrade because of existing wiring. When they initially had their system installed, they didn't wire it for future-proofing. The coax cable they used was just enough to handle the existing signal over the lengths they were installed.
0 likesWhen talking about a few cameras in a convenience store that has a drop ceiling, they are much more likely to upgrade to higher-quality equipment because they are mostly concerned with footage from inside or just outside the store, and wiring is relatively cheap and easy because of the easy access and short lengths.
When talking about a strip mall's cameras, they are likely all going to be exterior cameras (individual tenants/stores use their own systems inside) and many cameras would be placed on light poles in the parking lot. Depending if the original cable was run with conduit, if it was taped or tied in a bundle with other wires in the conduit, if there is any room in the conduit, Etc... all of those things could present a challenge, on top of that tracing down and figuring out where existing cables go in order to replace them, if you can. Then the lengths of new cable itself, and challenges with that. With higher bitrate, you need more bandwidth, and with that you have different tolerances and possibly the need for repeaters over long runs of cable. Needing a powered repeater halfway across a parking lot or along a mostly barren rooftop can be a costly addition, and make the costs for running new cable far exceed the cost of the equipment.
The relative price for storage isn't a big issue. IP cameras do their own encoding these days, and some can even do H.265 compression. For static footage like surveillance, even H.264 (the most common) would be next to nothing as far as storage goes. For a 1080p 24fps camera encoding at H.264, you're talking 40-55GB per 24 hours set at high quality. The same camera using H.265 would be about 25-35GB per 24 hours. 12 cameras stored for 2 weeks using H.264 would be less than 10TB. An enterprise 10-12TB drive can be had for around $500, double that for a simple RAID1 array and we're still only at $1000. The NVR will likely be $1000+. The cameras will be the biggest part of the equipment cost ($200-1000 ea). Still, none of this is crazy expensive until you add in the labor trying to run the new cabling.
@MMaya
0 likesIt depends how it's encoded, what type of compression is used. Most regular cameras encode in a MJPEG or other low-compression codec because it requires less processing power and is closer to "lossless" for the end-user to later edit or compress at their discretion. Decent modern surveillance cameras and NVRs use H.264 or H.265 to conserve space, and use like 7% or less of the space compared to MJPEG (depending on the amount of motion in the footage). And before you say something about the quality of those compression methods, I encode all of my ripped movies on my plex server in H.264 or H.265 if it's in 4K, there is no discernable difference from the raw ripped file from the Bluray, except it's 1/10th the file size or less.
@Pseudo Nym What year do you think it is?
0 likesYes
0 likes@Adam Rodgers to a simpleton, yes
0 likes@Pseudo Nym you said that an hour of video is roughly a gigabyte, so wouldn’t that be closer to 30 gigabytes instead of 200? Plus a terabyte hard drive only costs about 50$ for one that you know won’t fail easily and on top of that they could delete footage more than a couple weeks old
0 likes@Gator Pack55 very possible, they just don’t want to do it
0 likes@Adam Rodgers ikr that guy was a master chef
0 likesIt is totally enough and there is hq cameras but expensive so if u need to put 100 cameras u choose the cheap ones.
0 likes@Adam Rodgers 😂😂😂
0 likesSoda
2 likesLarger files sizes didn't lend itself to hours and hours of footage.... Think about it
0 likes@Daniel Amon high enough quality cameras to get more than 10 pixels already are not that expensive and even if you needed 100 of them it isn’t really a matter of cost because they have the money to do it
0 likesmost camera systems have decent quality, it's just the installers record at a lower quality so they dont have to spend more money to keep the recordings for longer
0 likes@Pseudo Nym if you say that an hour takes over 1GB then you can't say in next sentence that a day takes 200GB (you are not wrong, it may take that much based on encoding). :D Usually a good quality modern CCTV cameras keep 24-48hrs in raw footage (meaning you can really zoom in and enhaaaance) and then compress the leftover footage for long-term storage (you no longer can zoom in and enhaaaance plus nightime footage now sucks too).
0 likesThe problem isn't that they don't exist, but is that their too expensive. (i swear if i get wooshed for this)
0 likesI bet it is an issue with storage
0 likesI had a genuine P.O.S. TracFone with a horrible camera and THAT piece of garbage took better video than those ersatz " security cameras " that businesses and Law Enforcement use . You know those photos of Bigfoot and UFOs ( I actually believe that intelligent Life exists on other Worlds and the strong possibility that Bigfoot exists) that are always grainy and lack definition ? Those photos are like IMAX Camera images compared to the "blobs" that SOMEHOW were THANKFULLY interpreted to be Human . Thank goodness for eye witnesses and descriptions because this MONSTER woulda gotten away .
0 likesIt's definitely a matter of storage costs. Quality is the variable.
0 likesWhoever invents a business that will put out the money for a decent security camera system is gonna be . . . ummm something.
0 likesLMAO
0 likes@youfreaker Tape drives.
0 likesKk
0 likesStoring the hd video is the issue. Especially for hundreds of hours a week.
0 likesmkaes you laugh doesn't it! we have HD images from mars but when ever someones murdered all we have is grained 2 megapixle footage! its not good enough in todays day and age! security companies should be fined for failing to provide useable footage! otherwise cameras just serve as a potential deterant rather than have an actual function
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva non sense, camera lenses and parts are super cheap these days! no one is asking them for 4 k images but even 4k camera sensors are dirt cheap! if the chinese can stick better cameras on $5 drones then there is zero excuse
0 likes@Pseudo Nym "an hour of 1080p video is just over a gigabyte and having to store all that over a long term (something like 200 GB per day per camera" Jesus, where did you learn mafs?
0 likesJust wanted to thank OP for NOT editing and "Thanking everyone for the likes". That stuff gives me douche chills.
0 likesthe only thing that matters to police is what is being said,so there is no need for high res video.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym
0 likes"whoever invents cheap storage for hundreds of hours of HD security footage is gonna be rich"
Act normal clown, nobody asks for 4k or 8k, but 720p would already be a huge boost, not to mention 1080p, and the storage solutions for these are super cheap.
love how it started as a joke and now some real logic going on lol
0 likesOnce smth like this is invented, there would be no such a profession like detective :D
0 likesWould it be possible to have higher quality when movement is detected across the screen for example and lower quality for idle time?
0 likeslooool best comment ever
0 likesthe security video is rendered in low quality, because the owners of the shop don't spend enough money into storage space.
0 likescan imagine it would be expensive, though.
The Walmart I worked at had better cameras than interrogation room cameras 😂
0 likes@Siwi only thing you guys dont have are real chefs in america btw people dont need a degree to cook in holland they need multiple also a hygiene certificate
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likes@Johnnie What joke? ....It's more like a grassroots movement you started here! lol
0 likesJust use that one girl in the online class’s camera! Lol
0 likesWHOOOOOOOOOOSH! Something flew over a lot of heads. I wonder what that shit was!?
0 likesWorking with 1080p and especially 4k video is extremely taxing for modern systems. For the evidence to be effective it has to be ready on time and easy to send to various people. You cant be like "hey just wait like 2 weeks and then go on the cloud and download this 500gb uncompressed 4k video file."
0 likesOP is obviously joking. What's sadder is people even taking the "10 pixels" as serious. But those of you claiming it's expensive, dummies. Period. Storage and hd cameras are not expensive anymore. You can have all the terabytes you need.
0 likesThe only valid issue here is that people usually don't even bother with cameras to places like parking lots. The camera was extremely zoomed in. Looked like it was from across the street. I used to work at a restaurant that had at least 15 cameras in the main dining area. Multiple in back and surrounding the building. But none looking half a block down in the parking lot. And that's just how it be.
go to New Zealand , and there every CTTV camera is HD
0 likesIf he accidentally killed her then why not call 911 in panic? Nope... He accidentally burned her body too.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym he was joking
0 likes😬😅 I thought the same
0 likesLOL...that's right.....
0 likes@Tyson Holyfield Donald trump invented the Internet... Oh wait was it Billy idol? No strike that it was Bill someone my minds gone blank😊
0 likes@Adam Rodgers honestly youre the most interesting comment in this conversation😂❤️
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva institutions already exists.
0 likesWhoever invents a law that says to always share good quality videos after resolving cases - that guy is gonna be remembered.
Technologies are improving rapidly I.e modern technology..but when are we gon see HD with security/surveillance cameras?🤔🤔
0 likesYeah right, good luck running your own business with 5 of your 4K super advanced cameras running 24/7 then lol. Good luck finding enough storage to store all your video record too bro.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym Why not cloud storage? And 12TB isn't that much, 4 12TB NAS drives running together so if one dies they still have footage and be PLENTY of space. That's not a very expensive.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym kinda bad math there man, you said 1 hr of 1080p is 1 GB yet 200 GB per day per camera? even if we assume 30gb for 24 hrs, and 90 days of storage thats only 2.7TB of storage per camera. you can find 4TB hdd for sub $100 nowadays.
0 likesThe audio is more valuable then the footage, audio proves things while video usually doesn't.
0 likesLmao
0 likes@Siwi so what are you trting to say huh?!
0 likesimagine filming 91 mins of someone waiting in 4k, useful af
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva no they're gonna be poor
0 likes@Siwi 2.1TBs isn’t much
0 likes@Pseudo Nym Assuming Netflix levels of compression (~3.5Mbps) and let’s say a 15fps rate at 720p, 1gb/hr sounds acceptable
0 likesAssuming a building has 10 cameras, that’ll be 1*24*10 which is 240gb per day.
A year of recordings would be ~88TB.
90TB worth of WD Gold hard drives costs ~£2500 and that’s just after typing ‘10TB hard drives’ into Google and looking at the first few results, I’m sure businesses could get them a good deal cheaper, especially huge corporations that would end up buying them in bulk
Honestly, that’s not even remotely expensive considering the amount of quality YouTube content we’d get out of better quality CCTV footage ;)
Capitalists don’t care about human life. If their granny is on life support, they’ll yank out the plug to save thirty cents on the electric bill.
0 likes@Adam Rodgers free mint after doing the deed
0 likes@Tony Midyett sure Tony, whatever you say man...
0 likes@Dark Archon I don’t want anyone using facial recognition technology
0 likesI hate that people actually took this comment seriously lmao
0 likes@Pseudo Nym its called a computer and they have those...pfft
0 likes@Pseudo Nym also the fact that if the cameras were high quality there is a possibility that some information on the papers or on someone’s personal phone may be seen and I believe that’s why the camera quality is not that great
0 likesThat’s what I think every time I watch these.
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva The institutions already exist.
0 likes@Adam Rodgers love the way they hurt my nose
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva The Problem is that it is usually just seen as a cost factor to lower while holding an inmate is a clearly needed purpose - its some thing of consciousness and awareness - some bad psychological phenomenon.
0 likes@Jordan Thistle
0 likes:D Man you cant compress videos a lot more further than the codecs are doin it.
You can zip but you wont magically gain less size.
If you try to compress pictures or videos - it's usually done via the codec already - if you got uncompressed formats like bitmap pictures, wav audios or avi videos it would not help alot to try zipping it you need real video/bitmap compression which is usually done via the encoding of the information/file itself
There are lossless and lossy ways - but the point to reduce redundand information from the file and beeing able to recronstuct it again afterwards losless is nowadays pretty closely brought to its limits Maybe AI can further improve this but this will like lossy formats alter the data - which im not sure is good for evidence :) and since you never explicitly know that the ai is doing you (just implicitly) would not even know how it was altered in that way.
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@Petter Blakstad 😂😂😂 man i love you
0 likesThey do it so he won’t be recognized after jail
0 likesThe lady is bad at conducting the interrogation, she sounds like a broken record i couldn't take her serious.
0 likes@Adam Rodgers Unrelated but truthful, thank you.
0 likes@Adrian Flo The 100 terabyte network link - 😂😂😂 man you made my day -
0 likestake me to those terabit Networks 😂 ive been stumbling and jerking arround with these slowass 10-100Gbit lanes for years now.
Seriuosly you had 100gbit link in mind right ? - 100 terabit link would be smashing of almost every IEEE Standard - what hardware should be handling that load ?
I believe theres currently a max of 400gb/s as with the newest IEEE standards.
Using a dedicated gbit line (some symmetric type where the Upload is gbit aswell and bandwith is guaranteed) would be sufficient if you have not that many clients per site
(as like 25MBit/s per camera stream should be way enough for 40 simultanious camera streams per site @1080-60fps (dismissing any other traffic on the side))
even if i agree that cloud storage is not the way to go for video surveillance storage
- your claims are just skyrocketing and not the reason for that
-> its just damn expensive to even have like 1Gbit dedicated upload ;D (at least where i live at)
i think they are that grainy because the cameras capture so much video
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva Those already exist. The person who replaces all old cameras will be rich.
0 likes@Adam Rodgers i know right, they’re delicious
0 likesFacts
0 likes@Somebody else most likely since g and t are close to each other on the keyboard. But i have no idea what the conversation was about. Something about camera quality and storage space?
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva During the Y2K Bug crisis at the end of the 90's, a COBOL programmer took jobs fixing out-dated programs and services that weren't correctly designed for using dates after December 31st, 1999. A lot of these existed because both public and private sector companies were notoriously bad at updating old technology, and so he made a lot of money. However he was in cripplingly bad health due to the long hours he spent understanding and fixing old, poorly maintained code in a language as frustrating to use as COBOL. Doctors said he would live with his problems for the rest of his now-shortened life. So he used his new wealth to put himself into cryogenic stasis, to await new medical technology that could cure his issues.
0 likesWhen he was brought back, he was surrounded by future technology he had only seen in science fiction movies. He asked the people that brought him out of stasis "You woke me up, does that mean you can fix my health problems?" They answered "Yes, but there is another reason we brought you back. The year is 9999, and you know COBOL."
@Adam Rodgers what is a urinal puck?
0 likesEven just 720 would be better than this 180p mcdonalds happy meal camera.
0 likesLOL
0 likesI think the grainy footage gives it character
0 likes@Adrian Flo
0 likesYeah it is the surveillance camera quality storage Space/Solutions discussion where you made the point about the 100tb nw link needed for cameras data transfer as argument for not using cloud storage as solution :)
@Loiso Pondohva u r a fool , even 720 p hd will generate 150 gb per day , with 10 cameras its 1.5 tb per day , around 140 tb for 3 months , u are actually asking 50000 $ for just hard disk alone , that too for one place cover . There are thousands of places making it way worse . All of it for 720p
1 likeAnd then u want 1080p hd , keep your knowledge to yourself
Another reason for bad video, The lenses and the glass in the cam enclosures get dirty. No one ever thinks to clean them.
0 likesmost of it is attributed to not enough light entering the camera
0 likesThe government will provide free storage if they have access to the information.
0 likes@Dark Archon keep I’m mind most of these stories are 5-10 yrs old
0 likesI think the bottleneck storage capacity, not the lack of higher res cameras
0 likesSo much valuable outdoor footage showing full crimes are just worthless. I mean why bother?
0 likes@Pseudo Nym also exists
0 likes@Pseudo Nym for a restaurant to save and delete a moving five day average of footage would benefit them in so many ways to make it worth it. It doesn’t have to be 1080 and it could be motion sensor. Whatever system England uses is what we need. They should want it to protect themselves from theft, lawsuits, etc. it could’ve prevented not only her murder but the lawsuit for the manager having an against policy relationship. People use this technology for their personal homes. It’s not THAT expensive
0 likesI work at a security company. They make them but we can almost never sell them. People are always cheap with their cameras unless it’s really high security.
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva insitutions already exist. whoeverr invents globababollor to return the free will of human slavesvessels to their rightful selfowner is gonna be rach
0 likes@Siwi And this stuff has to be stored for years while the person goes through the court system.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym late reply, but lets just say two young men in NY who decided to have a shoot out in broad daylight are extremely fortunate there is a scaffold blocking my buildings camera. Our security system can see your boogers lol.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym about $1000 per year for 100 tbyte I think that would cover most medium size facilities if they thought cloud was a good option
0 likesOr I reckon around $500 per camera in hard disk storage
They’ll all eventually be taken out by criminals for their efforts in thwarting crime 😂
0 likesJust like people who try to make alternative fuels
The guy who invented adfly while megaupload was something its rich KEKW
0 likesThis got me laughing so hard
0 likesjust use... motion detection triggered recording, far cheaper and less storage intesnive
0 likesofc in malls and things with a lot of activity that isnt possible, but in places that need genuine security, it works man
@Loiso Pondohva my guy they had 10 pixels to find a kidnapper
0 likesImagine how much easier it would've been if they had like 12
Never ever talk about any alien technology here in this planet. Go home!
0 likesthere is a ton of comments so im sure its already been said but...its one thing to have low quality 24/7 surveillance storage and its another to have a few hours worth of video for an important interrogation.
0 likeslmfao
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva you do know how expensive it would be to constantly run high quality security cameras right
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva The institutions exist but the ones that go through with it are going to be poor.
0 likes@Adam Rodgers the guy who painted on the fly was the real genius.
0 likesi would say the reason for the low pixel count is because of an old case but this is from 2017 so im not sure to be honest
0 likeshmm, I am pretty certain we have cameras over 8k quality? :D But you know where you save all that data? Someone needs to come up with some amazing compression algorithm or develop some other intellignt system to store the data. Maybe Richard can help
0 likes@Pseudo Nym exactly what I was thinking, excessive use of a camera that can still be good quality would be almost impossible in today's age.
0 likes@c als why you reply me?
0 likes@Adam Rodgers urinal what?
0 likesyes
0 likesGo facetime your dairy uncle
0 likesNeed to destroy the cheap cameras in order for cheap companies to stop buying them. Then and only then will companies purchase better quality cameras.
0 likes@Brian Stephenson no theyre just gonna kick you out and get you arrested, bro its not cheap to run multiple HD cameras 24/7
0 likesLoiso Pondohva Z 😌
0 likesAcme cams are also used to film UFOs for like 80 years now.
0 likes@Adam Rodgers the Frasier episode is great when Niles finds out that's why his wife was so rich. Her family invented those in the show.
0 likesmuahahah...
0 likes@Jordan Thistle You definitely don't need 60fps with surveillance footage.
0 likesBahahahaha man I’m dead lllol. This is the best comment I’ve ever read😂😂☠️😂
0 likesTyson Holyfield Actually, he never got a cent. Until recently……😏.
0 likes@Dark Archon ah yes let every institution download cameras with AIs to detect human motion which also happen to be 4k yes great idea. absolute baffoonery your honor
0 likesDon’t worry I got it and snickered.
0 likesNah bro, whoever creates a stable, safe and wealthy society format where 0 crimes happen will be rich… actually i don’t think the hunger games would be suitable…
0 likesNASA already talking about traveling to mars but we still have security cameras with 10 pixels💀
0 likes@Loiso Pondohva the institutions already exist. Whoever invents people who have big brain energy is gonna be rich.
0 likes@Pseudo Nym Whoever invents a video format that makes it easier to use higher definition cameras with less storage is gonna be rich
0 likesAnd smart🤣
0 likesGoing through a nasty divorce and custody battle and spending my time alone with my 6 month old in my new apartment.
41 likesI listen to these when my son naps and I have free time to hang out. It’s SO cozy filling out his baby book or cooking or sitting and having a soda at my bar counter with this in the background.
I guess it’s just nice knowing at least my court hearing won’t be as stressful at these situations 😂
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Totally! Lowlifes make you feel better about your situation. I wish you best of luck in your new life!
1 likeSame here. Makes all of life's problems seem so minor in comparison. Best of luck to you
1 likeMy ex and I are going through evaluation and his dad and my mom both spoke with the evaluator separately to support my case. My ex only has his mom and she’s batshit insane and disowned by her family.
0 likesBoth are drug addicts and mentally unstable but are trying to make me sound crazy. Truth is coming out though.
Thanks, guys ❤️❤️❤️
This guy need to be the new narrator for forensic files, the way he explains things is 👍
5 likesSeeing him cry for being caught is so satisfying, yet so tragic when thinking of the family of his victim
12 likesThe police go through so much training for this exact case. Its amazing to see.
5 likesDetective: "How do you know Savannah?"
21266 likesLee: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, and the earth was..."
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This is why I scroll through the comment section. 10/10
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27 likesHours later:"And after the knights came back from the Crusade, the Pope said…."
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0 likesLee; but then some argue that there was a big explosion creating everything you see around you, after the first million years..
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0 likesHalfway through listening to this idiots answer to that same question and came across this comment and spit out my drink.
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0 likes@Dale Dillard I don't understand any of these guys not asking for a lawyer right away. I'm guessing that they think they can talk their way out of it by lying and insisting they are telling the truth (answer: "I don't know...") but you NEVER know how much evidence the police have as to what really happened. You tell one lie ---- you're done. Better just to ask for a lawyer and not say anything.
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0 likesLee: "So there's these things called Atoms, the building blocks of all matter...."
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0 likesplease stop reducing pretty serious subject matter into youtube quips it's reducing the entire platform into quips
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0 likesGod said man should not be alone, he created Savanah from my rib and she was called Woman...
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0 likes@Apóstolo da Razão try being original sometime, I remember even getting out the Bible to make sure I got it right, you just stole it. And yea that’s what makes it sad, you did it for attention not anything of value, I did it for the lolz.
0 likes@Apóstolo da Razão so just remember, when you’re laying in bed counting all your valuable likes, that you know, and I know, that you read my comment first, and instead of commenting on it , you stole it, then 9 months later you’re still responding and telling people you’re glad you made them laugh, but I made them laugh, and you took credit, poser
0 likes@Brando E Lee It is so ridiculous that you made me laugh. Do you really think I read all the thousands of comments that were already here and then saw yours and said "Oh, that is a good one! I am going to steal it"? Ha, ha, ha! And do you really think you are the only person on this side of the Milky Way that would think of this Bible verse? Other people here had the same idea. And: comments have no copyright. So, get a life! PS: Your comment got 90 likes. Mine 13,000. Obviously, because I wrote it in a funnier way than you wrote yours (too long). If you want, I can teach you how to write funny.
0 likes@Apóstolo da Razão no I don’t need to learn how to steal ideas, I like being original, thanks anyway, clown
0 likes@Brando E Lee How could I steal your comment, if I didn't even know your comment existed? I had to look for it today, because I found it so funny that you complained. You wrote yours 2 months before I wrote mine! There were already hundreds of comments with more likes than yours, and showing first. Do you think I scroll all the way down to the bottom through thousands of comments to find yours and steal it? And how come yours got 90 likes, but mine 13,000 likes, if yours was first and I supposedly copied it? Ha, ha, ha!
0 likes@Apóstolo da Razão obviously you did, thief, you’re like the Carlos Mencia of the comments section
0 likes@Brando E Lee Yeah, I scrolled down all the way to the bottom through thousands of comments with thousands and hundreds of likes to steal yours that that time had maybe 5 likes, ha, ha, ha!
0 likes@Apóstolo da Razão that’s the first step, admitting you were wrong. Now maybe you should reevaluate what you assign value to, for instance, you’re so proud of the likes without seeing the value of being original. Good luck tho
0 likes@Brando E Lee Ha, ha, ha! You don't even know what irony is. I was making fun of your childishness.
1 like@Brando E Lee Yeah! Only you could come up with such a brilliant joke, since that Bible verse is almost unknown, ha, ha, ha! Tell me, why did your joke get only 90 likes, if you wrote it 2 months before I wrote the same joke? Ha, ha, ha!
0 likes@Apóstolo da Razão you just keep saying the same thing, more evidence you could never come up with anything original. Probably because you kept commenting keeping the comment on the top? Idk icc BBC wrote it and moved on, hadn’t remembered till I saw yours, and I was like, didn’t I write the exact thing when this video first dropped.
0 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likesAbsolutely wonderful extra funny!😆
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes😭😭😂😂😂😂😫😫😂😂😂😂😂🚶♀️💀🥂 CLASSIC
0 likes"Well, about 13.81billion years ago there was a rapid expansion of spacetime, which then cooled, then the 1st Generation of stars began to form........"
1 likeGood one
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesHahahaha
0 likesHa
0 likesFacts. He took so long
0 likesAnd then the fire nation attacked
0 likes😂
0 likesHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA
0 likesOP is madly hilarious.
0 likesTime stamp
0 likesI hear spongebob’s narrator saying, “2 days later…”
0 likesthe earth was flat
0 likesHahahahahahagahahagaha
0 likes@travmansmom 92 and in the seventh day LEE got arrested lol
0 likesHe had a 70lb advantage yet claims it was self defence.
0 likesYou were going places Lee, your were supposed to make something of yourself!
0 likes@ICEYPRISON it was a joke
0 likesLMAO!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesLMAO!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes😂😂
0 likesrofl
0 likesIM WHEEZINGGG STOP PLEASEEE LMFAOOOOO OMG JESUS WEPTTTTT
0 likesLmao
0 likesDetective: "How do you know Savannah?"
0 likesLee: "Once upon along time ago a Trillion years ago something exploded from nothing and all life started, stars, planets, and the primordial soup of life started............. 😂👍 Oh the fable tales of evolution/apetardism.
Lol 🤣
0 likesHoly shit! Laughed put loud!!
0 likes@travmansmom 92 tell us about the 6th day!!!!!! All hail flying spaghetti Monster. Did i just spell Spaghetti?
0 likesTake this like :D
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesawesome 👌🏻🤣
0 likesLee Rodarte’s sister, Amber Camarillo, 26, is jailed in connection with a 2016 killing at a Jacksonville motel. ( Something must be wrong with their upbringing )
54 likesThese two cops work together so well, and after the calm and collected opening of the guy the woman is just so incredibly intense. And the commentary of the editor is really good, just enough to help and really interesting. Really fascinating, despite the horrible things being described.
2 likesEvery so often, I come back to this video just to remind myself what happens if I stray off the moral path. Not that I have any desire to do what he did, but—what a raw capture of human experience.
2 likesI do feel bad for someone who makes a decision that ruins the rest of their lives.
4 likesEver since I came across "What pretending to be crazy looks like," I've been addicted to these videos. Keep uploading more.
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i too, from exact same video.
29 likesSame,!!!!
10 likesSAME!!!!
6 likesSame!!
4 likesme too literally that exact video got me addicted
8 likesStg
1 likeSameeee
3 likesME TOO
4 likesFor us who have been around JCS for years…we’ve been waiting too, for MONTHSSS. His work is so high quality it takes a looooong time for new uploads
14 likesSame here haha
4 likesThis comment is written on every single video 😂
5 likes@Nada AbdAllah lmfaooo yeah that particular video is what caused JCS to blow up i think finally
4 likesOmg me too! Same video!!!
2 likesSame I can’t stop 😂
2 likesSameee, it was just a gateway into it all lololol
2 likesSame
2 likesSame!!
3 likesHahaha same
2 likesThey got us with their psychological videos. They knew that title would do it and keep us watching more.
3 likessame
2 likesSameeee
2 likesSame here but I don't see that video anymore.. I think it was deleted
1 likeSame
2 likesno because i've spent the last 6 1/2 hours watching these videos
3 likesThe "pretending to be crazy" video was more cringe than I ever thought possible.
3 likesI've been hooked since watching the same video a few days ago.
2 likesSame!
2 likesHaha same here. I watched the pretending to be crazy video 2 days ago and I'm now about 3/4 of the way through all the videos! I'm starting to look at people in a whole new light!
1 likeSAME SAME SAME SAME
1 likeand another: SAME
1 likeJennifer’s solution is pure gold. I got addicted to this channel because of that video.
4 likesThis is what you call foot in the door technique
2 likeswth i started with the same video too...is there a pattern?
2 likesSame!
1 likeDude, I had it popping up in my recommended for 3-4 months and I wasn't watching it because it's almost an hour long, but since I work night shifts in front of a laptop, I saw it a few days ago, and now I'm again watching another video (this one) while "working" ;p
2 likesThis was my first video too
0 likesI know i’m so spoiled , I don’t like the other channels all that much except for maybe MattOrchard
0 likesMr wekah wekah
0 likesI went to "Jennifer's solution" first, but didn't genuinely watch it before I did that video, so same. Although, to be fair, even considering true crime's popularity, I feel I've been a little more invested in it naturally than most.
I don't think you can beat "The legend of Jeff" video. Jeff was a real cool customer.
0 likes+1
0 likessame here!
0 likesBro, same!
0 likesOmg same 👹
1 likeSame!
1 likeYooo that was my gateway video too!
0 likesDid the demon make you addicted to these videos?
0 likesWell the full interrogation is out AND it's horrific ......and of course sad . To hear exactly what he did is sickening ....
1 likeIt's kinda amazing how well he held it together as long as he did
I seriously cannot stop watching these videos over and over again. Having this in the background while doing work is my thing now lol
12 likesI really wish there was more information on this case, like the Chris Watts case or something. The full confession was only just released a year ago and it seems to raise more questions than it answers. Was the tire slashed before or after Savannah’s death? How was the coroner not able to establish a cause of death when he admitted to presumably snapping her neck? Was she really on drugs at the time or was it he who was high? I tried looking for any details at all about this case and there’s literally almost nothing.
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Where can you se the full confession?
0 likes@rekoyika search “Lee Rodarte Confession” the video is 5 hours long and uploaded by Crazy Crimesz
0 likesFor those of you watching this now, Lee Rodarte was sentenced to 40 years for murder 2 weeks ago.
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Um no that was over a year ago
0 likesImagine murdering to protect your job at The Bonefish Grill.
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cassidy slusher right 🤨 even if it’s against the rules, I’m sure there’s other ways to keep your job
1899 likes@Lifegoeson100 - Or just let your job go & find another job as a chef.
3247 likesBonefish Grille vs. murder?
Nope. Can't do it.
490 likesHey hey hey... it’s honest work
629 likesLmaoooo literally
145 likesCaleb Mandrake I’m saying he didn’t have to murder her at all especially if he didn’t want to be with her
177 likesNobody takes away my bonefish grill
715 likesTerrible thing to do, even if it is a bad economy.
115 likes@sithmastur hero
19 likesIn his defense they do let you pick your scabs at work and jobs like that are hard to find.
437 likesthat's an insane amount of dedication to a business tho. if i was an employer i'd be thrilled honestly
266 likesHe was going places. He had a name tag and the world at his finger tips. Then he methed it all up! XD
343 likesShould've never boned anyone from The Bonefish Grill.
343 likesIt's pathetic and weak.
36 likesI laughed at this comment. Something about “Bonefish Grill” really puts it over the top.
105 likesThose martinis are fire lmfao
12 likesconcur
2 likescassidy slusher, Riight?!?!
11 likesAnd he said he was going places! lol
44 likesIt is called The Bonefish though.
6 likesI cannot fathom killing someone in order to keep a job as a chef... Or any profession. Life was not over bc a girl had a crush and was proud to tell people about it. He had darkness already in him. I'm convinced of that.
188 likes"Hey, I got a bone to pick with you."
76 likesI think there's more to it than that
40 likes@ruuzap 😂😂😭😭
4 likesomg, good point! tho, i think it was more about the drug use and his infidelity to his wife at home. People are so screwed up these days
56 likes@Ramona Flowers Hysterical!! hahahahaha!
6 likessideshow bob no shit
4 likesThey've got killer benefits
66 likes@cassidy slusher Some others here have it covered in their own way, but you look pretty
3 likescassidy slusher why is this not top comment?
10 likesIt was probably a big job for him but he could’ve just denied that they had sex. They can’t fire you for being friends. Poor savannah.
58 likesCould of been McDonald’s lol 😂
2 likesA place where he supposedly peels his scabs off at work
22 likes@Caleb Mandrake +
2 likesLOL
4 likesWoah now hold up a spicy minute. The Bonefish Grill might be casual dining but their seafood is down right lip smacking.
30 likesI actually feel better about myself, thank you.
6 likeswasnt it more than that? Thought she was saying she was pregnant or something
7 likesBrian Mcelligott nah I didn’t catch that. I would think they would make a bigger deal about it if that were the case.
17 likesLol he took it seriously
1 likeLaughing out loud.
2 likesThe guy plays too much CK2
3 likesAlso, is that the only good looking woman in town? How difficult is it to not date your coworkers 🙄?
22 likes@A more than likely it was a couple things A.) The drug use getting out was gonna cost him his job B.) He wanted to sleep with other 21 year old waitresses as well and she was getting in the way.
29 likes@JP Janssens it was a really happening concept...15 years ago.
1 like@Christian Chenevert judging from they're respective pics it's quite possible that lookswise this was the highest quality female company Lee had ever attained.
20 likes@Lifegoeson100
20 likesMaybe murder isn't against the rules at The Bonefish Grill.
Imagine thinking you're an actual chef at The Bonefish Grill
45 likesYour comment is far by the best🥂🥂
2 likes@Evalation facts there gotta be more to it
4 likesMy thought exactly.
1 likeI think it probably stems from him also wanting to not use heroine but yer
1 likeIt’s possible, but none of us really know the ins and outs of that relationship
2 likesEric Hoberg 😂
2 likesExperience Precision 🍾 cheers
2 likesTwan van der Donk thank you
1 likeWelcome to Florida I suppose
5 likesHave you seen the benefits package they offer dudebro managers? It's top shelf. :-D
5 likes@Fred Jaminson LMFAO
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likessithmastur spot a future stalker
0 likesГальванизированный Труп sounds like someone work at bonefish grill
5 likesSmh... 🤫
16 likesI've dated my managers before. When it gets ugly, just quit and move on!
This guys is a piece of shit. What a senseless, selfish tragedy.
My thought the entire time
1 likeThis better be a good restaurant.
2 likeshuber it isn’t.
4 likesDaniel Blowes don’t confuse us with the facts.
3 likesThe grill must be particularly boney.
1 likeThat must have been some bloody Top tier swank of a job. He must have been racking in the dollar’s. Living the fricken dream, owning the boat man. The Job that keeps on giving. He must have had a spanking whopping pension plan on that bad boy. Such a great job it’s worth the kill. Ummmm 🤔
2 likesI hear their benefits are out of this planet! Jaja
1 likeHe was proud of that chef's coat..
9 likesGreatest Comment Of All Time
3 likesI hate to say it but he was probably a killer chef
14 likesAlright, I've got it pictured in my mind now what?
1 like@MrSentia that joke is in poor taste buddy. Lol I still laughed tho :-x
0 likesMatt he was a manager. In most restaurants, usually only the GM does the firing, I believe.
5 likes@Bombo Beefheckuh has nothing to do with this thread bub
0 likes@Tim Strickland i hate myself for giving this a thumbs up...
1 likea job to kill for 🤣😘 no disrespect tho. I worked in hospitality too.
1 like@Fred Jaminson haha ikr
0 likesI hear they have great benefits
1 like😂
0 likesSPOILER !!
0 likesthe absolute state of the US of A
0 likesAin’t no way they’re firing a consistent line/kitchen guy because he slept with a server.
18 likesPeople have died over parking spaces, empty wallets and much less
3 likesHe probably came from a poverty and dark background, and worked tooth and nail to get to where he was. For him that was mountains of achievement. Not defending him, but summing up the situation like that shows a complete lack of understanding.
13 likesIKR? I mean Red Lobster I understand but the Bonefish Grill?
7 likesThey changed the name to the slaughterfish grill.
7 likesFor real.
1 likeLifegoeson100 I used to work there and couldn’t wait to quit. This is so fucked up
4 likesFlorida
3 likesI just peeded.....🤣🤣🤣🤣
2 likesThis comment is an insult to The Bonefish Grill community.
4 likesMy girl works there 💀
2 likesyou got to protect what you got even if you don't got a lot :)
0 likesWhile at the bonefish grill
0 likes@JP Janssens hard to tell
0 likes@Ian Mangham just needed an excuse yelp
1 like@Cranky PaperClip yes
1 likeNvr get between a man & his grill!Especially a bonefish grill are u mad,there will be blood! 🍤🥓🍤
4 likesRight😁
0 likesRight
0 likes@Meownold J. Trump it was a good job, no need to downplay anyone's job meowold
0 likes@Anthony Reidel what would you recommend?
0 likesRight? Cheesecake Factory maybe, but Bonefish? Pft. Nuh uh.
2 likes@Repetition Repetition Repetition Repetition I think it's using the whole name that makes it funny. Like South Park when Cartman kept calling Ross by its full name: Ross Dress For Less.
1 likeThat's reality for a lot of the poorest people in america today - It's no excuse, but it is something to be expected when people are poor and desperate
1 likeGood point. It's just a restaurant.
0 likes@Lifegoeson100 🤣
0 likesAll he is doing is whimpering about himself in jail. No sense of decency for the lady or her family. These people just kill young women like it's a small thing.
11 likesStrangling someone, burning, and dismembering their body is a so deliberate and horrible
12 likesFML you must.
1 likesithmastur quit your simping.
2 likesThis comment thread though. Is everyone watching this video in 10th grade? Christ.
5 likesImagine working at The Bonefish Grill
2 likesLol I love you.
1 like🤯
0 likesLmfao right
0 likes@Kirsch Rot lol
1 likeI wouldn't ever do that to u 😎👉👉 let's go on a Date
0 likesГальванизированный Труп damn you work at bonefish grill or something?
2 likesMarry me Cassidy? You’re the most beautiful and smartest woman I’ve ever seen.
0 likeshell of a motive.
1 likeHe's lying about that. I don't know his true motives but all that sounds like bs to me. It was probably the other way around.
1 like@sithmastur imagine trying to pick up a female threw a YouTube comment..
5 likesHow that guy can have success with girls I will never know...smh
5 likes@Caleb Mandrake Literally this. Even kids know to do this! If you fuck up you leave and say you had family problems when it comes up later 😂
0 likesyo Don be hating on dat 🐟 bones n all
1 likelmao im sorry but your right
0 likesThe food sucks. I would have chosen prison.
1 likeLmao right! Bc that’s his ONLY option for employment. It is now!
0 likesI'm sure it had more to do with than just that. Drugs are bad mmmmk
0 likesHahahahahah
0 likesAmongst many other ridiculous reasons he had
0 likesHard out here for a pimp
0 likesCassidy 😍
1 likeBye bye lee you had other choices
0 likesRelocated to downtown
0 likes"Chokin'Full o'Bones" is an alternative..
0 likesNo, I don't think I will. ;)
2 likes@A yea that id say was a lie
0 likesFor real
0 likessublimeade I do got bf.
0 likesJay Janes I know right
0 likes@Dee Ca. that's why the word bone is in the title.
0 likesI ain't going back to Burger King! Don't care whose whopper I gotta charbroil...ain't going back!
2 likesHe was going to be general manager one day had it not been for that Savannah
0 likesWho saw a housewife with her new phone morph into a nagging mom as opposed to a detective..?
1 likeThat’s a good job honestly
0 likesExactly, for a fucking job at bone fish. He’ll definitely regret that.
1 like😂😂😂
0 likes😂
0 likesHaha didn't think about that angle. Clever
0 likesHave you ever tried the triiple fish combo with unlimited hushpuppies?
0 likes@sithmastur Cassidy is a man, baby!
1 likeShe did an amazing job. She did whatever it took. Annoying voice, bad acting....got the confession.
3 likesLoL now THIS comment puts shit into perspective!
0 likesOmg that’s hilarious
0 likesHe wanted that employee of the month plaque real bad!!
1 likeWell...He was employee of the month once!
4 likesSo pathetic, you are right!
0 likes@Juicetheeunuch Lmao bro stop 😂
0 likes@sithmastur bruh
0 likesThat's what stupid people do. He did that, now he lost his job AND he's dying in prison.
0 likesHaving his scabby hands making food sounds disgusting. Good thing they got rid of him anyway.
2 likes#realshotsfired
1 likeHe could get off for insanity based on that!!!!
0 likes@micah byce i laughed out loud at the mmmk. Me and my lil bro say that shit to each other all the time. Mmmk mmmmk mmmmk! Lmao. But now i feel like a complete scrub laughing while watching this. But in my defense im kinda reading comments more than watching the bs artist being a self snitch
0 likes@John Creighton How so what?
0 likesBoneless Macaroni Grille
0 likesCaleb Mandrake you’ve never had there catfish
0 likesYou’d think differently if you saw their employee discount.
1 likegreenghost3737 chiiiilll
0 likespeople murder for much less, sometimes no reason at all.
0 likesI don’t need to imagine it
1 likeLol
0 likesC H i’m sending this to the FBI 😂
1 likecassidy slusher ladies and gentlemen.... We got em.
0 likesLol thats funjy, when u put it like that.
0 likesTragic for both. To much ego on his side and broken spirit on her side hence the drug addition Regardless of that no one has the right to take the life of the other. Full stop ! ,
0 likesHave you seen the benefits package they provide??
0 likes@sithmastur pretty sure she doesn't want to end up like Savannah dude!
0 likesLJ Marzula original man, not like that's already been said 100 times.
0 likesLJ Marzula you killed it🤣
0 likesDon't underestimate the "lure" of shift mgr position Lee had his eye on. That's a big jump up the Bonefish corporate ladder.
0 likesmost of the murders happen for even less ... you seamed surprised ... its more about disrespecting other people that triggers reactions with fatal consequences not what you have to gain from that or not ... so people should really be very aware of their surroundings and be very carefully when they disrespect someone with a smirk or a wrong word.
1 likeHAHAHA
0 likesSmh crazy
0 likesDude , boning the fish is hard work, some people love it so much
0 likeslololol
0 likesHe's a manager tho soooo
0 likesEspecially at this location it’s so toxic there until they finally got rid of a key manager there
0 likesLoosing your life just to take someone else's? The regret would choke me for the rest of my conscious life
0 likesI’m sure Bonefish Grill would be proud of that. Our company so good you’ll kill for a spot
0 likesBruh I was JUST thinking that. ❤️
0 likesIN TEARS AT THIS COMMENT LMFOSOO
1 likeThat was probably just an excuse bc in his twisted mind it sounded better. He even tried to put all the blame on her by labeling her as a druggie and him as this moral good guy always looking out for her well being.
5 likesI've worked at countless casual dining restaurants just like the bonefish grill and I can spot these douche bag cooks a mile away.
@Juicetheeunuch smells fishy
0 likescassidy slusher do people watch tv bruh they are on camera admitting to crimes terrible man a 90 pound woman can’t do much harm no one deserves to die by another human being rest well 🙏🏾
0 likesThere could have been something more. It is probable she threatened to disclose more information, such as drug use and probably some other heavy accusations that would/could have destroyed his career in the food industry entirely
0 likesThey must pay really well!!!
0 likes🤣😂🤣😂
They need to open investigations into anyone who was a guest at his restaurant, sent back the dish and suddenly died or dissapeared.
0 likesThey had baller benefits
0 likes@Dirk Diggler October Prom?
1 likeToo bad it wasn't bar e cudda's It could have led to the big time, but I guess it did anyway.
0 likesCant get lower than that 😂💀
0 likessavannah is really cute, how could this have happened to her. i’d be destroyed if i found out my daughter was burned.
0 likesnot justifying what he did in any way whatsoever. whats wrong with making ends meet? what do you do?
0 likescrap place, heard they serve human skin there
0 likesHad to be something else, I wanna say she got pregnant and he did not want to keep the baby. That’s my theory anyways
0 likesOh boy...
0 likesJeezy Mclovin bang bang shrimp
0 likes...You obviously never worked at The Bonefish Grill...
3 likes@ThumbsUp Kitty A Broiler/ fry cook is just that..A Cook. Not a Chef.
1 like😂😂😂😂😂
2 likesWhen I seen this story I said the same thing.
And told myself this kinda shit sounds and smells like Florida.
Then I seen it was Florida and was like..
Oh....😶😐.....of course!
He was manager and head chef. he was making good money
0 likesMr Nice Guy nobody said it wasn’t it’s just not worth killing someone over he’s probably making about 10 bucks and hour
2 likesHahaha
0 likesJohn B Lee Rodarte is a “Florida Man” 😂
2 likesCassidy...
0 likesWhy were you in the court background in one of the videos on this channel!?!????
John B explain
0 likesgotta be damn good, that grilled fish
0 likes@Eliyah F Scabby Flake Tuna is the house special 👌Bon Appetite
2 likesT/A Plus Hemi that is barely over minimum wage in most states just say you didn’t get your high school diploma😔
0 likes@MOsKOn that makes sense to me. I appreciate the different take. He does seem emotional which seems like he may not be a planner after all.
0 likesOne hell of an advertisement lol
0 likesSavage ☠️🐟
0 likesruuzap 🤣🤣🤣
0 likesJ W
1 likeYikes spotted the 500lb Reddit moderator
Killing for any job is ridiculous
2 likesI’d do it to leave the bonefish grill (this is a joke)
1 likeGustav Maia good point
0 likesBounce tell that to James Bond
0 likesThat’s USA for you.
0 likesHAHAHAHAHAHAHA best comment
0 likesAnd there food sucks😹😹
0 likesthey grilled him lol.
1 likeKrisztián that joke was... well done.
1 likeIKR.
0 likes@Ian Mangham first comment that makes sense!!!!
1 like@Caleb Mandrake I bet he never thought he could murder. What makes people do such things?
0 likesHe didn't murder her to protect his job, or at least not entirely for that. Did none of y'all hear the part in the video where it was said - and I think even Lee says it in the interview with detectives - that he has a girlfriend? Savannah going around telling everyone they smashed - and on more than one occasion - word will inevitably spread to his girlfriend and that would be hell to pay for him.
3 likesSo I think that realization along with the fact that he'd lose his job, made him feel like he'd lose everything of that "super awesome" life he built himself with his girlfriend and his job at the Bonefish Grill where he's free to pick at his scabs on the clock as much as he wants. Unlike those dicks at Sizzler! So anyways yeah...he knew he had to silence her or his girlfriend would find out about the disloyal bag of dogshit she has for a man. Which I feel like would've just been prolonging the inevitable even if he'd gotten away with it, but stupid is as stupid does.
😭😭😭💔
0 likesAmazing summary Cassidy.
1 likeLol right it sounds so shitty
0 likesIm sure people have killed for less
0 likesU had to say it
0 likesanyone would do the same. Most people would kill to protect the thing they love.
0 likeslol,,,mindblowing, right?
0 likes@Christian Chenevert quite difficult given how often it happens. It makes sense given how often you're around your coworkers. For a lot of people their social life basically revolves around work.
0 likesHe killed to hold down his bullshit reputation among teenagers that work there for a couple months, meanwhile it was his career. I was a dishwasher at 15 yrs old at places like that and witnessed the same stuff, loser cooks and servers thinking they were gods gift. Eateries are an extension of high school for a lot of their employees.
2 likesThat a very Boldfish move.
0 likesi get the meme, but this was obviously over drugs.
0 likesThat is so America
0 likesI don't think he meant to murder her , just she was drug user
0 likesLMAOOOOO
0 likesStupid options. He could've just left and find a better restaurant.
0 likes@Valerie A. Would've , Should Have , Could Have ='s To Late Now .
1 likeWas that the motive for the crime? How difficult is it to find a job in the United States? I have heard that in America there is almost no unemployment, right? I’ve been fired many times and haven’t killed anyone yet, despite the fact that in Spain we have one of the highest unemployment rates in Europe. Ridiculous.
0 likes@Гальванизированный Труп imagine being a total dick and not understanding a joke
0 likesdemonic
1 likeIt must be recognized that the guy is a hard worker.
0 likes@Lifegoeson100 unless it's Chili's, rulebooks a lot more different there
0 likes🤒
0 likesDon’t have to. Got bodies in the back. Turn up.
2 likes2 for 1 stuffed fish on Tuesdays, come out.
🤣🤣
0 likesWell that sounds like a modern day pop culture dark comedy.
0 likes@Christopher Hager I’ll sell you the rights to the screenplay.
0 likesWanted to keep cooking himself free dank meals on the side
0 likesBAahhhh. I’m the best motha fuckin fish fry this world Eva seen
0 likes@sithmastur she weighs over 300 lbs checkout her IG.
0 likesSounds like something spongebob would do
0 likesI’m going to hell for laughing at this
0 likesMurder is NEVER the answer to any problems!!!!!
0 likes@Julian C I disagree. I run across 3 people a day that should be removed.
0 likesAnd Fat Cass
0 likes@T Luv ya I hear ya ...
0 likesDid you forget he rose fast through the ranks of his chosen profession ?? Lmao
0 likesI uhhh, wasn’t supposed to laugh at this comment.
0 likes😂
0 likesHe’s never gonna wear his chefs suit again!
0 likesI worked there. They have this whole “our fish is fresh never frozen” I asked during a “mandatory” meeting, “where does it come from, though?” My manager just laughed, and said nothing. They make you do this menu presentation for new customers, and every time you perform it a part of your soul dies.
1 likeNailed it Cassidy
0 likesProps
Lmafaooo 😩🤣🤣
0 likesGOD COMMENT
0 likesI don’t get how he was protecting his job
0 likeslmaoooo
0 likesI worked at one of those piece of shot restaurants and that job was horrible. One of our co-workers actually drank himself to death one weekend just so he wouldn’t have to come in. Losing that job would’ve been seen as an act of kindness.
1 like@Laura Burger Miss Burger is that you in your profile photograph? U R beautiful!
1 likecassidy slusher employee of the month
1 likeTips ! lol
0 likes@Juicetheeunuch a bone-fish ?
0 likes@ThumbsUp Kitty delusional ?
0 likesImagine copying a comment verbatim.
0 likes@Rusty Shackleford haha. Yes. They teach their cooks.. sprinkle of salt, sprinkle of sexual harassment, and repeat!
0 likesImagine murdering for money
0 likesSurvival of the fittest at bonefish grill
0 likeshahahahaha I'm going to waste this day laughing at the comments under JCS's videos. I can see that's how today is going to go. Nice one!
0 likesThe free food the chefs there get are to kill for!
0 likessup gurl
0 likesFor some individuals it can be a big thing. Maybe for his own standards he was doing extremely well and had fought hard to get where he was. Not justifying his actions, surely, though
1 likeFor real, it's not like it's an Arby's or something
0 likesI'm not imaging it cassidy...this is my new life because of Covid...🤔
0 likes@sithmastur You will find your true love one day🥰
0 likesI know right😒😒
0 likes@das Aggropop don't shit where you eat...
0 likescassidy slusher the Bible is right, people are broken.
0 likesImagine actually murdering another for petty highschool drama.
0 likesDude he should be employee of the month 😂😂😂
0 likesI bet that this comment has 300 replies because of some politics argument
0 likesLMFAOOOO FR THO
0 likesthis took me out lmao
0 likescassidy slusher could never 😳😁😩✌️🙃
0 likes@A Of course, his proudest part of that job was likely wielding knives. Nothing against weapons myself, I'm good with knives- I just don't murder innocent, beautiful girls with them. Or anyone, really.
0 likes@Gee Warren Yeah, could HAVE been.
0 likesIts what makes his addiction alive.
0 likesLMAO!
0 likesMaybe the benefits are great
0 likespretty certain it was more about a drug fueled romance turned sour than merely a job position
1 likeLOL THIS COMMENT HAD ME.
1 like@sithmastur yo wth
0 likesHe’s a company man
1 like@Malachi perhaps the best reply
1 likeBang bang shrimp is a recipe to murder for!
0 likesI‘m crying 😂😂😂😂
2 likesSmh
0 likesImagine all went down after the two had engaged in sexual relations. Humans are like any other animal, sex fogs the ability to rationalize the results of our actions.
0 likesPerspective 😂👍
1 likeIf they gave me a discount on the food, I’d think about ir
0 likesTx sick
0 likesbaaahahahahahahaha
0 likesHEY. Is the food good though?
0 likes@John Melon no.
0 likesI like it
0 likesThat’s actually a pretty reasonable motive if you think about it
0 likes@me myself*quench
0 likes😂
0 likes@ruuzap I feel like a horrible person for laughing☠️-
0 likesThey do have good benefits
0 likes@ruuzap 😂😂😂😂
0 likesI don't need to imagine.
2 likesThe Bonefish Grill must take be a tough job to land
0 likesHey, they have great benefits lol
1 like@Jeff M my job has better benefits. The benefit of not being the bonefish grill.
0 likes😭😭
0 likes@cassidy slusher touche
0 likesWhy would we imagine ? Is this a joke too you ? Who know's what this guy is suffering from.. i know a guy who killed 3 people and the 4th got lucky because god told him too kill a man he's 40s wearing a pink shirt and by the time finding him police pulled him over on a routine check up just by chance.. there people out there that are sick.. dont judge amd laugh at people because you never know what mite happen too you..for all we know some woman mite kill you for putting on red nail polish that day .. stay safe people and beware of all evil because it is out there
0 likespeople have killed for less, not suprised
0 likesLmao just find a better job
0 likespriorities
1 likeRightttt!!!!! That job must of meant the world to him lol😂😂😂😂
0 likesHe didn’t want to get cancelled lmao
0 likesimagine doing drugs, yuck
0 likes@sithmastur you got a new job at the bonefish grill
0 likesThis is what stupid looks like
0 likesHe said it at the end. "You were going places man"....... Yeah you still are.
0 likesThis is a good comment.
1 likeImagine saying telling why your in prison to the fellas
0 likesTbf, the hostesses are 🔥
0 likesCasual fish restaurant
0 likesSmh thank you
0 likesBusinesses shouldn't have rules about not dating
0 likesLmfao
0 likesIt probably had nothing to do with that, really. Just an excuse ( a terrible one)
0 likesNot his first time
0 likesLmao
0 likesWell it’s a once in a lifetime job. Just ask Savannah.
0 likes@Brian Wilkins nice
0 likes@cassidy slusher Ty
0 likes@RENOVATIO drug use is so common in the industry I'm sure he would have been able to get a job elsewhere no problem. Kitchens are full of people like Lee, except they dont kill others.
0 likes@Ilija Stojanovski girl what the hell are you saying?
0 likesHi
0 likesThen losing your job for murdering to protect your job at bonefish grill
0 likesHey, their dental plan is 2nd to none.
0 likes@Cranky PaperClip not you shaming people and call them loser for having "low" standard according to yours. Dont get me wrong, he's certainly wrong for what he did to Savanah and you can call him loser for that not for him being attached and loving his job the "low" level chef at Bone fish grill. It rubs in the wrong way because there are many people out there have different standard that probably people like you think it's bellow yours, but to them.. it means a lot to them and probably it is indeed the high point of their life to have that job.
1 likeIt's a killer job
0 likesTheir food is pretty good.
0 likesFor real! Omg! I gotta spend a few weeks looking for another restaraunt job
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesBruhhhhhhhhh
0 likes@Anthony Reidel "hold up a spicy minute" has now been added to my vocabulary. Thank you!
1 likeLmao its the way u said it
0 likes@Lifegoeson100 yes you can have the two ppl who are in a relationship sign paperwork saying it’s consensual
1 like@Sher oh ok, I was thinking working different and/or days
0 likesFunny comment
1 likeI actually think he was the one who didn't want her to dump him. That whole, 'I should have just told her to leave me alone.' was for the camera's benefit.
0 likesNEVER underestimate The Bonefish Grill
0 likesMust be a Hell of a Job...Someone grab me an app!
0 likesIt's the thuggish ruggish bonefish grill
0 likesEven then. Everyone at work already knew and no one really seemed to care. There r plenty jobs where its a rule not to date nd as long as ur not bringing drama or kissing in the work place thy usually dont care. Plus as a grown man. If a little girl was putting u in an uncomfortable situation at work u cn report it. U cn leave the job. U cn ask to transfer. There r so many options. Murder isnt even a solution bcuz now he still lost his job and his freedom over a secret that was ALREADY out. not like she was threatening to expose it. She had already told everyone. Killing her wouldn't take her words back
0 likesDoing this is the highest level of cringe among other things
0 likesSeriously.
0 likesImagine murdering an innocent woman just for a petty reason to keep your job at that. A decent human being would've raised his concerns to her. Yes, would have showed that he was egotistical but that's better than just being someone who murdered your coworker for your job
0 likesBut he was really going places. Yeah. Right. 🤔
1 likeMy thoughts exactly.
0 likesLife tends to flow more smoothly once you stop expecting morons to make rational decisions. Every once in a while, it’s also very awakening to take a moment to remember that people like him carry driver’s licenses.
0 likesClearly you dont know, the employee discount is KILLER
0 likes@ruuzap 😂😂😂
0 likes@Some Guy nice
0 likesWatching this a year later and I’m a former server. Girl the real tea is that managers and staff sleep together all the time and get away with it!! If you ever been a server you know it’s really not that big of a deal for 2 employees to be hooking up. He could’ve definitely managed to keep his job especially since HE is a manager. He could’ve just fired her and went on about his life.
1 like@Nasreen Abdus-Samad true
0 likesIs this a spoiler???? I just started the video....
0 likesThats the loyalty you need for a promotion! Fuck yeah 'merica!
0 likesMy guess is it was a hatred for his mother that caused him to do this. As he said, she started doing hard drugs and he didn't like seeing this. But I don't know, I'm not a psychologist.
0 likesImagine peeling off ur cuts at the grill like Lee was saying
0 likesIt wasn't because of that. He felt his ego threatened and did it out of nothing but anger and fear at his loss of control.
0 likes@Гальванизированный Труп who hurt you?
0 likesI dnt believe that was the reason ..it was for something less important..pride
0 likesThere’s a lot I’d do for money but murder definitely isn’t one of them.
0 likesHe didn't murder her to keep his job, he wanted her and she didn't want him. Male ego and insecurity killed her.
0 likesIt’s not for the job... but for the chance to peel his scabs in the food 😉
0 likesthis guys doin 40 over a fucking chef job at bonefish grill
0 likes@_𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪__𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪_ yo that is an insanely Truro statement.
0 likesLol I shouldn't laugh but what a comment
0 likes@MrBdiddypop Pretty much every restaurant everywhere is staffed by drug addicts, alcoholics, and crusty weirdos. Even Michelin starred places likely have complete lunatics working in the kitchen, albeit cleaner ones. This is largely because of 2 facts:
0 likes1- food service doesn't drug test
2- food service is one of the most exploitative industries out there, with some of the lowest pay, the least benefits, intolerable working conditions, and some of the longest hours
Another fun fact, multiple people have likely touched your food with unwashed hands after it was cooked and before it arrives at your table.
foreall
0 likes💀
0 likesPeople murder for less
0 likeswas thinking the same thing. I mean, there's prob a Chili's across the street.
1 likeI'd be embarrassed to say I worked there
0 likesAs a dad of two daughters I fear for men like this,I train myself and my babys to protect and defend.It was still hard to watch him break down at the end.The detective said it herself"...this is somebody's child" Lee is someone's son.Hopefully one day we can pinpoint why and when someone gets pushed over that line to kill another human.
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The line is the lack of restraint, everyone gets stressed and mad and would really love to kill those that put that stress on them but we don't. Some people just indulge and that's it he was only breaking down because he was caught and wasn't smart enough to lie his way out. I get your point he is someone's son but certain people are just plain selfish and evil and like Lee they normally do well in life unfortunately. The best thing you can teach your daughters is how to examine character, how to identify manipulation tactics and things like that because one on one unfortunately a man has advantage in any physical confrontation, best to avoid it. Stay safe brother👍
3 likes@Lucifer how about we teach the men not to kill women, instead of making the women paranoid of every man they meet?
1 like@Lucifer obviously terrible things will always happen, but we have to contribute into making sure they happen less often. sometimes certain men feel entitled to a woman's body and proceed to lash out when they don't get what they want. terrible beliefs can be taken to terrible conclusions. fighting those terrible beliefs is really the only thing we can do.
0 likes@U・ᴥ・U you're missing what I'm saying, I don't believe there's a cure to the men that abuse women or a cure to a women that abuses men there's no cure for anyone that does evil on to other people. They are born and stay that way. I respect you want to protect people by providing information its just in my mind people are themselves and nothing will change them good or bad.
0 likes@Lucifer I don't think people are born evil. but they make choices. that ultimately makes them a good or bad person. some people choose that their anger or pride is more important than another human's life. but nobody looks at a child and thinks "yeah that kid is evil". (I will admit that children can be fucked up though lmao). I guess we just have different mindsets, and I respect your opinion as well!
3 likes@U・ᴥ・U I appreciate that
1 likeWhat a physiological and mental battle good job to the detective’s ❤️
0 likeshe also said so many details.
5 likeslike what she said before she got into the car, when she took out her phone, how exactly she walked toward the entrance out of the car.
the average person doesn’t remember details like these, he clearly had time to think of a script to try to look innocent.
Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors in February and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.
1 likeDetective- “so how did you know Savannah?”
17138 likesLee- reveals PowerPoint presentation “I’m glad you asked”
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Lmao exactly
182 likes☠🤣
43 likes😂 with cool transitions
270 likes😂
18 likesPeriodt
6 likesSame thought I had lol
6 likes😂
2 likesMade my day 🤣🤣🤣
8 likes@blue lmao u make me want to rewatch the office for the 12th time
9 likesAnd he just went on and on. Even the detectives started to sound bored after a while.
75 likesNext slide please
10 likesYou... are.. going to hell.... And.... I'm driving!!! 'Cause man that made me seriously laugh out loud... LOL Oh man... LOLOLLOL
9 likes🤣🤣🤣
1 likeHa
1 like@Alain Lalonde Most Important Question I have today: why are you driving and reading comments?😂
15 likes@blue underrated comment lmaoooo
2 likesThat addy had him 🗣🗣🗣
9 likesBeautiful! 😁
1 likeI like how the detective asked "So how did you know Savannah?" And somehow we got to his mom having a meth addiction.
31 likes@blue that's funny & clever, I luv it!
1 like☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️
2 likesWith the lazer pointer and slideshow showing the happy times
11 likesComic sans.
2 likes😂😂😂
1 like5 years later. He's still talking.
8 likesLOL
1 likeLMAO
2 likesbest comment hahaha. He would've interspersed "up-selling" techniques he taught her at Bonefish, lol. "She's so good at getting customers to add appetizers to their orders, even desserts! I taught her that!".
5 likes"That is a very good question!" - every corporat at director's range or above :D
1 likeDon’t take adderol before going into an interrogation lol
6 likesLoool
1 likeIn my mind, I literally imagined the whole process of him taking out his laptop, the officer turning off the lights, and Lee starting his PPT presentation. Lee - "First of all, I would like thank you both for joining this session .... " 😂😂😂
7 likesNote to self: don’t pop addy before the police interrogation.
2 likesCriminals are idiots. Everybody knows you don’t talk to the police even if you’re innocent and even more so if you’re guilty. He thought he could be smart and ensnared himself in lies the police could easily prove. That’s how criminals get caught, their own hubris in believing they can outsmart the police by talking.
3 likes🤣🤣🤣
1 likeIs he still talking?
2 likes🤣
1 likecomplete with hyperlinks
2 likesSecond best one , best one was,
4 likesLee: confesses to 30 crimes
This ☝🏾 😂😂
1 likeFR LMAO
1 likeLOL!
1 like🤣😂🤣
1 likeok, this one's my favourite
2 likesPretty much lol
1 like"I'm glad you asked." oh man........ tears.
2 likes"And so in summary..."
1 likeHe seemed prepared
1 likeLol!!
1 like😂😂
1 likeLmao
1 likeRight😹 goin on and ON like damn
1 likeWith a rick roll at the end
1 likeA display of his LIES #SavannasAct
1 like@BLACK face Hardon
1 likelol
1 likel-o-lLMFAO!! hahaha
1 likeFunniest comment in a while
1 like@G C but i needs it for my autism DX
1 like🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 like😭😭😭
1 like😂😂 I spit my drink out
1 likeTHIS ONE 💀💀💀💪🏿
1 likeIt’s crazy how the detectives can break down someone’s guard so easily.
2 likesThe fact he was aware enough to slash her tire to create a reason for something else is low key brilliant. It didn’t work but thoughtful nonetheless
0 likesRewatching this for maybe the third time. Please don't quit your content is amazing if you choose to go I understand but you're fans will miss you Jim. I also wonder why you can't swim.
0 likesIt's amazing how these people talk when they can just remain silent. You just have to watch one police movie to know the less you talk the better things are for you.
5 likes"How long have you known her?"
4272 likes"Well I was born on a crisp day with autumn leaves starting to fall and my mum was wearing a blue dress and as I grew my first word was dada........"
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Thank you for brining tears to my eyes due to laughter because of your comment. Priceless!
70 likesLol it’s funny but how is she gonna give birth in anything other than a hospital gown
11 likesLmao yess
1 likeGUILTY!!!
2 likesHahaha thx for funny comment
3 likes@Bennett Linder I’ll take it as a compliment 😂
1 like.......Why are so many people giving thanks for providing this free when I counted eight commercials?
0 likes@Evil i think the blue dress is the hospital gown detective
6 likes"Thank you for the great question. I was born in Bulgaria, a country with a financial system on the verge of collapse. At the age of 5, I immigrated with my family to America in search of a better life. I have benefited from all America has to offer and Robinhood's mission to democratise finance for all has a very special significance to me..."
7 likesDennis Mendoza I'm sorry but did you pay a cent to watch?
4 likes@Evil Not every person was born 30ish years ago was born in a hospital
2 likes😂😂😂😂😂
1 likeWell he did speak with the interrogator before, therefore, he thought it was maybe a continuation on that....
1 like@KL yup my bro was born at home
1 likei mean, it’s such a strange judgement to make.
1 likeif you’re innocent and the cops are interrogating you you’d either get a lawyer immediately or try to give them as much info as you can because you want them to like you lol, you don’t want to go to jail just cause they didn’t know who else to screw over
Leaves don't fall in Florida
2 likes🤣
1 likeThis made me laugh way to hard 🤓😂🤣🙋🏾
1 likeIs Dada a word?
0 likesLMFAOOOO
1 likeThe minute he opened his mouth it was apparent. Nobody goes into that much detail about something frivolous when someone he supposedly had some feelings for could be laying dead somewhere. He has to do his own redemption maybe exchange his life for the one he took. Nobody's beyond hope but if that was my daughter I think I would want to put him in a chokehold and let him take a dirt nap. But the whole thing was senseless.
1 likeI do enjoy these presentations, however, if a person guilty of something is also watching it gives them a clear idea of how to avoid the pitfalls and traps that interrogators will use to get information. My advice would be to lawyer up and say nothing.
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You're right! Lawyering up and staying silent is the best bet. Even if it were possible to avoid the traps and the pitfalls, these tactics are psychological and designed for the human consciousness. Could anyone and everyone avoid all this manipulation, especially after committing a heinous crime? You're right about lawyering up though, you always have the right to remain silent
0 likesI remember working at a Outback Steakhouse and hearing about this because our companies are under the same umbrella. Everyone was freaking out.
7 likesMay she rest in peace. I enjoyed watching him whimper and realize he was going to have a very hard time in jail.
0 likesI love when detectives say “we understand, you’re not a bad guy” when they really mean “tell us where she is you sadistic piece of shit so I can get out of this Fkn room”
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HAHA
14 likesIs this some kind of set up or something?
31 likesNo way!
8 likesYup 💯
1 like@lowlowseesee that’s where I was thinking there’s no way Im the only guy who feels bad for criminals and fkin up their lives.
11 likesI think this every time
0 likesYeah they gotta play his friends so he
1 likeThese are home baked?
9 likesI'm just trying to go to the beach!
12 likesImagine acting friendly to someone out of genuine empathy instead of agressively pressuring someone who's clearly reluctant and regretful about what they did, so that you can play the footage of them crying while a narrator says to everyone how much of piece of shit they are to the jury.
3 likesWhat kind of psycopath would NOT psychologically torture someone and manipulate them into gaining your trust, only to break said trust by spitting on their face and calling them all names after the interrogation?
There is one like that on this channel, the detective is completely lost
0 likesYou're cute,built good
4 likesYou know what? I don't want this cookie, I just want to get. to. the. beach.
6 likes😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍👍
0 likes@Armetyz They did say they care about the victim's wellbeing, not the perpetrator's feelings.
2 likesI understand where you're coming from, but I'm pretty sure you would have an immediate change of heart if one your loved ones was the victim instead of a random stranger. All sympathy you have for the perpetrator would immediately evaporate.
Unless, of course, you have a better strategy to offer.
@Nicholas Jones why dafaq do you feel bad for someone who stole someone's future just like that?
1 likeyknow what i dont want this cookie i just wanna get to the beach
0 likes@Armetyz You would have a point if two points were true: A.) The officers thought Savvanah was still alive making this pressuring necessary to possibly save her life. And B.) If the guy didn't actually kill her.
2 likesWithout these points your argument is mute at least for this specific case.
Well said 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likeAnyone else find her acting job horrendous?
0 likes@My Pham Nguyen loplp
0 likesYou know what I don’t want this cookie any more…
0 likes@Armetyz oh they should
0 likesBe nice to him because he regrets murdering the firl
@sauce Nope. Just don't pretend to be something they aren't.
0 likesIf you see him as a piece of shit, don't come with the understanding type just to then spit in their face once it's done
You know what I don’t want this cookie
1 likeI’m so glad so many people know about your pfp😂
0 likesI am not sure if anyone posted the updates, but here is the follow-up:
4 likes> Lee Rodarte, the man charged with killing the 21-year-old in 2017, was convicted to 40 years in prison on March 11, 2021.
> According to Action News Jax reports, Lee Rodarte Jr., 31, received his sentence on March 11, nearly three years after he was charged with killing Gold, with whom he worked at a Bonefish Grill in Mandarin. In February, Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.
> Rodarte appeared virtually before 4th Circuit Court Judge Jeb Branham to file the plea agreement made with prosecutors.
> Action News Jax was published in 2019 when Rodarte tried to claim self-defense 2019. His claim was later denied.
> Rodarte was also charged with proof tampering and abusing a body, but those charges were dropped as part of his plea agreement.
> Prosecutors and the defense negotiated a sentence of 40 years in prison with credit for time served.
As a chef the moment he says “this is the last time you’ll wear a chef jacket” really got me.
9 likesAs an autistic person I’d be terrified of being interviewed as a suspect even if I was innocent because I give all the signs of a guilty person
9 likesYour voice is so great. It's clear, pleasant, factual and to the point. Love it, best channel for watching fascinating interrogation footage.
2 likesAt least the suspect is sorry, bit late for that, but it's something.
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He’s not sorry
1 like@Brandon Massey I mean, you're probably right.
0 likesI feel like I would be scared to talk to a detective even if I was innocent...
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"So, what is your na-"
258 likes"DON'T HURT ME! Please..."
Especially one in a bow tie
85 likesNever talk to the police without a lawyer, innocent or not
283 likesYes! They do put innocent people away too
120 likesYou should be. They’re only there to get a confession out of you one way or another regardless if you did it or not.
100 likesSame I would probably cry the whole time
34 likesAfter watching so many of these. I kind of want to see how I would react lol.
71 likesI feel like I’d say that I did a crime even though I actually didn’t lmao
31 likesAmanda Knox agrees with you
6 likesThat's why you never talk to the police, period. Provide basic personal information and then request a lawyer, regardless if you're innocent or not.
55 likesYeah, I had an interview with some detectives a couple of years ago regarding the death of someone I worked with, they knew it wasn't foul play and told me that but it didn't stop me from sweating the whole time.
19 likesI would flee to northern Tanzania
6 likes@Meatball Sub Cop's can lie and lawfully get away with it. It's in their best interest to talk with you on record without a lawyer present. I'm glad for you that your interaction with the detectives worked out ok.
21 likesThat female detective is cringe lmao. Begging for an answer 30 min into an interrogation. Pathetic, even if it is some tactic. They should've told him they can charge him with kidnapping
20 likes@a a I agree, I couldn't believe she started pleading with him to help her, number one it immediately puts power in his hands and two why would a killer [regardless of they knew that or not] think of helping anyone else except to preserve themselves? Pointless attempt that looked incredibly desperate.
23 likesI once had to talk to a detective. Even though I was completely innocent, I was super scared
3 likesTry dating one. Hahaha
3 likesNah detectives are super nice. I have a lot of respect for them.
1 likeLITERALLY when these videos explain the behaviour i’m like man that’s what i would do
8 likesThat’s why you get a lawyer
4 likesA lot of them treat you in a way that can make you feel guilty even when you know for a fact that you're innocent. Very unnerving.
11 likestrue dud
0 likes@a a they still got a confession out of him lmao
7 likesNever talk to the police before you've talked to a lawayer if you in any way might be considered a suspect. Doesn't matter if you're innocent. Innocent people get locked up all the time. Imagine if you forget about some some small detail or accidently say something wrong. They WILL use it against you.
15 likesAlways have a lawyer present no matter what!
6 likesSame 💯 lol 😂 but mostly because I’m black and ya know 🤷🏽♀️
0 likesThat’s because they just seek to get a confession out of you regardless of whether you were involved or not. Nobody should trust or talk to them without a lawyer.
5 likesThat's by design, unfortunately. Detectives that are used to interrogating suspects can often have a more difficult time not seeing EVERYONE through that lens, since they're constantly looking for it.
3 likesAs others have said, this is why you ALWAYS get a lawyer and NEVER talk to the police without one present. Even if you're 100% innocent, even if you feel like the cops are being "nice". That is ALL part of their training, to lull you into a sense of comfort, like what you're saying to them is okay and no big deal, and that you're just "chatting". Don't fall for that shit!
I wouod never pass any polygraph bc my anxiety is so bad. I hope I never am in a situation like that bc it'll sure look bad. Especially with the content I consume daily lol
4 likes@a a sure , i’ll take ur word for it , guy who isn’t a detective nor is trained in criminal psychology
5 likesEvery day is “STFU Friday”… your vocab should consist of only “attorney”
3 likes@Bullast Based.
0 likesYou definitely should be, always get a lawyer instantly and tell them nothing, ESPECIALLY if you’re innocent.
2 likesBefore I would be but I got so good at talking to them, now.. cause I know I didn’t do anything wrong so they could ask me anything they went
0 likes@Lily Massey there are plenty of unqualified people in their respective fields, apparently she is one of them. I don't need a degree in psychology to understand that her tactics are subpar, at the least.
1 like@Diandra yup! They put my dad away for a bit and he was 100% innocent
2 likesbruh Ikr it seems really stressful just by watching the video and when the detective started to ask "where is savannah'' in an aggressive manner I think I would shit my pants even if i was innocent lmao
3 likesNeva .... Neva .... NEVA ...talk to the cops ....Thats NOT me saying that ..its recommended by EX cops and Lawyers ...NEAV talk to the cops ...Exercise your right to silence ..exercise your right to have a lawyer present ....
1 likebut even so you wouldn't say more than anything actually relevant to the questions💀
0 likesi would laugh involuntarily
0 likesAlways, always get a lawyer. Even if you are innocent. Especially if you are innocent.
3 likesThis detective is very polite,i was innocent and integrated by detectives so hard i almost admitted im guilty just to let them leave me alone 😄
0 likesi was. they asked for my phone number and i panicked and completely forgot lol.
0 likesthats why you dont say anything
0 likesas someone who works in food they are the coolest people to know, super chill, and just want a good conversation. outside out that room obviously.
0 likesYou would, we all would, but you physiologically respond differently when hiding something
0 likesI feel you, they 100% could talk me into a murder that i didnt done.
0 likesI think they can tell the difference between a guilty person and someone with anxiety.
0 likesI have before.. I. Just kept telling the truth.. Knowing it would come out eventually
0 likes@Black Sheep idk if thats the truth with a name like that..
0 likes@3x6 why.. Its my bands name. U racist bud? Haha
0 likes@Black Sheep what? No just google the meaning of black sheep. wtf xD
0 likesYou should be
0 likesShut up and lawyer up because the interrogators will do whatever they can to convict you, innocent or not
When he relegated Lee to the past tense by saying "tell us, tell us where we can find you, that's how people will remember you", I wouldn't have thought that would be a good tactic. Kind of like saying "tell us the details we need to get the murder conviction, it's all over for you".
1 likeIs it maybe a good tactic to get people you 100% know are guilty to resign themselves to the fact that their ass is cooked, just spill the rest of it so we can get on with it?
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Find "her"*
0 likesI love how a simple question like “how long have you known her for” got a 5 minute response
6 likesThe woman investigating this case is phenomenal!! Whats her name?? She deserves all the kudos.
1 likeI've been binging these videos but the biggest takeaway I see in all of them is there is no presumption of innocence, that I've seen. The detectives come in for one purpose: confession. And they're not leaving until tbey get it. You could swap out their suits and slacks for SS uniforms and the scene wouldn't look any different.
7 likesIn this case he was guilty. How many more weren't.
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Persuasion of innocence is something that courts and juries need to do. The investigator's job is to build the strongest case possible against the most likely suspect. Its a two sided coin. One side starts with the assumption they are innocent and the other side starts with the assumption they are guilty. Then in court they compare their two narratives and see which matches the evidence better.
1 like@SeiberKatt A two sided coin is needed to determine the truth. Without people doing the work of attempting to prove guilt then nobody would be convicted of anything. In order to do the digging required to uncover all the evidence you need to have some personal belief they are guilty. That's because someone who believes in the innocence of the subject would stop investigating unless the evidence was immediately obvious to all. There is a reason why investigators aren't on the jury or aren't the judge. We can't live in a fantasy world where everyone assumes the best in all people.
0 likesThe hunt for the truth requires you to not just assume they are innocent. From there you build your case to present to someone who is instructed to assume innocent until proven guilty.
I'm not saying the system is perfect. Its not, there are plenty of problems. However, unless you want to live in a world where most murders are never solved, there needs to be someone that attempts to prove guilt. The assumption of innocence needs to exist in a court room. However, forcing an assumption of innocence on investigators would handcuff them to a point of uselessness.
@HamsterFromAbove well said, i was also wondering about this after watching a couple of videos and you just cleared my thoughts.
0 likesYou’re the most addicting content creator on YouTube.
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i cant agree with this more
65 likesvery true i’m so addicted
41 likesI agree
20 likesAddictive*
66 likesHere here!
12 likesEver thought it strange how American people say "addicting" while British people say "addictive"?. Also how American people say "normalcy" while British people say "normality"?. Or how American people say, for example, "I could care less what you think" while British people say "I couldn't care less what you think"?
43 likesTruth.
3 likes@Clarence Boddicker I've lived in both England and America for years and I can say without a doubt that people in both places say both those things....
39 likesDeadass
2 likesI agree, my favorite tube
5 likesIt’s not for me to say who is saying it wrong, but you’d think the nation that invented the language would be saying it right
11 likeshim and that chapter
12 likes@MGTOWTakeru google it. it's interchangeable ... arguing semantics for no reason in 2020 =/
7 likesClarence Boddicker
3 likesCan you fly Bobby?
As an American I actually would have said ‘addictive.’ Either is correct.
13 likesI dont even have time to think it when Im already clicking the video
0 likes@Darsirious for sho
1 likeAbsolutely. Also, JUST in case you weren't aware, he's got a Patreon filled with much more content!
6 likesAurora Symphony I’m a subscriber to their Patreon but there’s some real gold on these free YouTube uploads. It’s hard for me to realize I have to wait for new content, but it’s like waiting for Christmas all over again.
3 likes@Clarence Boddicker People in America say "I couldn't care less what you think." Saying, "I could care less what you think," makes nos sense. The people who say that are uneducated or don't think about what it is they are actually saying.
6 likesIt’s why he has 30,000 patreon subscribers
3 likesTHIS VIDEO ISN'T HITTING THE SPOT
3 likesI NEED ONE MORE HIT
@Clarence Boddicker lol no educated american says "I could care less" omg that's such bad english and it IS addictive, american or british.
4 likesCelph Taut him and mike from That Chapter
1 likeYou’re a regular Chris Hansen.
1 likeelcaminocarcrsh hey mate, is patreon worth it? Does he upload regular videos on there?
0 likesLarge Marche he does. $1 a month on Patreon
0 likesYeah man. It's just so fascinating, I never expected to watch so many of these
1 likeI concur with your statement! Fascinating
0 likesIdk, him and Vsauce make it a tie for me. Just in my opinion though
0 likesOoohhh that’s debatable
2 likes@MGTOWTakeru imagine being a MGTOW in current year, trying to correct people and still being wrong
2 likessad
Yes
0 likesYou all should subscribe to his patreon. Its $1 a month and has an in review amount of content on there. He’s the only content creator I support on any platform.
1 likeLies he barely has any videos , plenty of other pages with these exact shows plus hundreds more
0 likesCelph Taut let me introduce you to AvE, Nile Red, and Applied Science
0 likesAgreed. A great channel with an amazing content. Keep it up sir!
0 likesThis channel is so good I had to go to rehab
2 likesAre you smoking JCS or shooting it?
1 like@Omegatide shooting between my toes
2 likes@Clarence Boddicker "Normalcy" was made up by one of the Roosevelts, I believe, and stuck tho it's not really a word.
1 like@Clarence Boddicker There are many differences between 'textbook' British English and taught US English (not going to include colloquialisms on either side, hence 'textbook / taught'). I'm 'well-spoken' British, however my mother went to a predominantly American school in 'Cold War' Berlin where her Air Force father worked, and my 'significant other' is American, so this is a daily issue in my family as you can imagine!
0 likesThe last comparisons you use though, l can only put down to a case of misinterpretation that has become 'habit'... if you COULD care less, that is saying that you DO actually care to some amount, as there is the ability to care less than you do at that point. Whereas if you COULDN'T care less, it is saying that you DON'T care at all, therefore it's impossible to care less.
My personal pet peeve is the use of THEN vs THAN... the first is an adverb meaning a moment in time, the other is a preposition that is used as a comparison against something else...! Any time it gets ridiculous my mother swears she found me on the doorstep!! (despite the fact l'm her 'MiniMe') 😄😁😄
Clarence Boddicker We Americans say all of the above.
0 likesThe patreon has beaucoup more stuff too if u like JCS
0 likes@Clarence Boddicker it's bc we are stuck on English 1.5, still waiting to work the bugs out for the second gen release
1 likeThe best!!!!!!!! More videos please :)
0 likesI know!!! I check daily for more uploads. Have Patreon as well.
0 likesI’ve viewed them all multiple times. Get something new each time.
0 likes"That chapter" is also extremely good if you people are into this kinda stuff. Shorter videos but a lot of really good content covering this type of stuff.
0 likesIt's not as deep into the psychology but very well done. And tons of videos I binge watched those videos and I'd say there's probably 40+ hours of videos. Check em out if you're looking for other good content
I know! Hi from Sweden
0 likes@Clarence Boddicker true
0 likes100%
0 likesFacts. I found this channel yesterday and I’m like 10 videos in.
2 likesI have to agree with this op
0 likesI’ve been binging his entire channel ever night till 4 am hahaha
0 likesCelph Taut, I`ll have to agree with you on that.
0 likesClarence Boddicker what are you saying
0 likesWord.
0 likes@MGTOWTakeru Douche*. I'm just messin with you, I correct people all the time without thinking about it. I do feel like a douche sometimes though.
0 likesI agree.
0 likesOnly just tuned in but already addicted
0 likesYes.
0 likesAgreed. I’m suppose to be asleep right now but here I am.
0 likesI have been literally addicted since I watched one episode out of pure accident , did even mean to click it but HOLY SMOOKEES was up until 4am and now it’s on to another one!
0 likesLol very fascinating channel. I’m already hooked on dateline 2020 48hrs etc but THIS is something beyond our comprehension that’s why it’s so intriguing!!
He said it; we were all thinkin' it
0 likesYou don't have to be addicted people
0 likesWhy are u lying
0 likesWell said "truth"
0 likesZeck Rofrano couldn’t
0 likesFacts
0 likesTranslation:
0 likesPeople are fascinated by the taboo of death
You should also check out Horror Stories channel.
0 likesI thought I was the only one
0 likeshim and kentobento
0 likes@MGTOWTakeru THANK YOU OMG NO EVER SAYS IT CORRECTLY. Lol
0 likes@Clarence Boddicker I could care less doesn't make any sense
0 likesBet
0 likesThat's why they call this the opioid channel. It's addictive.
0 likes@Davin Bowyer I bet you wouldn't say that if you worked on the railway
0 likesIstgggg
0 likesMr Ballen
0 likesThat was cool.... 8,000th like on this comment 😂
0 likesWow you are the only person ever on the internet to use “addicting” correctly in a sentence. Congrats! Really!
0 likesIt's too bad that JCS doesn't post on youtube anymore because youtube keeps censoring his videos. But, between JCS and Mr Ballen, probably the two best personalities on youtube.
0 likesYuppppp
0 likesIve been bingeing these and wow, life is so stress free when you don't kill people
1 likeNot all people who go into full details when asked open ended questions are guilty. My youngest son and I are both like that. We cannot help it.
1 likeThat female investigator is nerve wracking as hell! Innocent people would confess to a crime just to get her to shut the hell up. I also find it scary how manipulative law enforcement are.
Imagine the terror as a parent of receiving a text like that from your daughter's phone and knowing it wasn't from her.
1 likeI would love to see like the difference in a same image of a person lying with his body movements, and statements, at the same time, and a person telling the truth. A person that has nothing to hide. 2 different person's, in a same video, but 2 different cases. Idk how to explain myself, but hopefully u understood me and make a video to show us the difference, and how detectives know when their lying or being honest. Please sir. Can you do this? Please? 🙏
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youtube has been demonetizing and removing a lot of his videos so he hasn’t posted in almost a year sadly
0 likesI would cry like that too once I realized that my last hours of freedom were spent at WORK.
4387 likesUgh.
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125 likesWho gonna get his paycheck?
150 likesBernard Brunu
286 likesThe customers who ate the scabs he peeled off
👏🏻
5 likesbro...... that would SUCK! lol
18 likesAmuJax omg 🤮🤮🤮
13 likes😅
1 likeHis crying sounded unconvincing to me, like he was trying to force it.
14 likeshahahahaha 😜 FuKN FuNNii BAS'stard
4 likesThere was one To Catch A Predator where the dude walked for miles and miles, just to be met by Chris Hanson and the police LOL. His last hours of freedom were spent walking to the place where he would ultimately be arrested.
55 likesHe killed a person for this job. He would spend twice more only if he knew.
6 likesFreya Shipley Not defending anything, but i stg sometimes when I’m disparate i cry like that sometimes.
1 likeI feel like shit for laughing at this after a video like that...
2 likesOh man, no shit right.
1 like😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
0 likesYeah picking scabs an putting them on the fish,
3 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesThe interrogator really needed Samual Jackson on his team: "SAY UHM AGAIN MOTHAFUCKA! DO THEY SPEAK ENGLISH IN UHM! SAY UHM AGAIN ONE MORE MOTHAFUCKIN TIME!"
5 likes@Bernard Brunu the girls family in restitution
0 likesAmuJaxx 😂😂😂😂💀
0 likesHaha this made me laugh so thanks for that
0 likes@toast I get you and totally understand sure not for everyone but I'm as confused by the hate as you...
0 likesJENofMN imagine they were slammed too. Super stressed in the weeds all shift, finally get through the rush, get the last ticket done and step out for a smoke.
3 likes@Bernard Brunu You still get your paycheck. You just can't use it for much while in prison. If you ever get out, you can use it at that point, after inflation has had its way with it.
3 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Not funny, it's a sad situation all around 🤭
0 likesAt the bonefish grill
0 likesFamily members, but they have to get a court order to get the paycheck.
0 likesLOOOL 😂
0 likes@Samuel i seen that one 😂 dude busted thru the door with his backpack and went straight to the decoy. kinda scary actually
0 likes@Tabatha Kennedy you have such a beautiful name.
0 likes@Yams. god bless you
0 likesThat part was oddly satisfying, hope he cops it jail too, POS
0 likes@Samuel that's beautiful! Lol
0 likesAt the bone 🐟 fish grill ....
0 likesnot just any work... but the BONEFISH GRILL
1 like@Uncle Junior I'd be embarrassed to eat there let alone work there
0 likesIt's actually pretty sad watching him break down like that, no matter how horrible what he did was. I couldn't tell you how much remorse he actually has for the woman he killed, as opposed to how sorry he feels just for himself, but it's clear he regrets it and acknowledges that even those she "was a bitch" to him, she had been nice to him too. They had good times, but obviously he got very anger at her, enough to kill her, which is probably why it "makes no sense" to him how he could like Savannah and hate her enough to take her life at the same time. You don't get to see internal struggle like this so, well, externally.
3 likesI watch ALOT of true crime channels. I hear mixed reviews on the way a suspect talks. Some say the more a suspect talks, the more guilty. Some say the less said, the more guilty. I’ve noticed on my own that I think in the instances on the suspect talking on and on, you have to listen to what they are saying. I think if a suspect rambles yet gives details in vivid color up to and including info about the senses (sound, smell, taste, feel, etc) they very well could be telling the truth. But that’s just my own opinion and that’s why I’m leaving comments on YouTube and they are in the interrogation room.
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I think a lot of interrogators may take personality into account. There are cues you can pick up on in their words and body language to determine if it’s a personality trait or an act.
0 likesMakes me sick thinking about how many of these guys are out there free. Maybe they’re cooking at your favorite restaurant.
1 likeProps to these detectives for their professionalism. Can’t say enough about them.
That lady interrogator out of her emotional outburst made things unfavourable to the justice that Savannah could have got if that interrogator had not outrightly confronted and begged to Lee , instead she should waited on and on....😔
0 likesDetective: Where is Savannah?
4747 likesLee: I had a dog once. His name was doggy boy.
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«I’ve never hurt anything!» breaks down crying «I KICKED A DOG ONCE😫😫😫»
455 likesImo the female needs a little more practice
72 likes😂😂😂😂😂
8 likesDetective: Where is Savannah?
60 likesLee: Allow me to give you a detailed synopsis of Infinite Jest
😂💀😂💀bruh log off pronto
10 likes@Watson 98 are you a detective?
11 likesThis is a reference AHAHHAA
45 likesLmaoooo
0 likes@Watson 98 I think her emotional behavior is intentional to play off the male detective’s calm demeanor. Having someone emotionally scream at you is anxiety inducing especially when you’re guilty of something that means you’ll spend the rest of your life in prison. It clearly worked because he admitted to bringing Savannah to his house right after the female detective was the most emotional and hostile toward him.
39 likes@Animal Mother i'd say: lmao, good luck
0 likesI see what you did there 👍
9 likesThis is too much 😂😂😂😂
13 likesPoor Jodi
@Watson 98 And yet it worked. They both rehearsed this act beforehand.
7 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
3 likes@anonymous anonymous right? how common is that name? I mean, gee... I'm gonna be wary of anyone with a doggy dog from now on
6 likesDOGGY BOY!
4 likeshahahaha if u know u know
7 likes@Carl Wilhelm Andersen Proceeds do do a head stand and pray for forgiveness..
9 likesHahahahab ok jodi
1 likeI can't stand jodi...
2 likes💀💀💀💀💀 lol
0 likes@Watson 98 but they still got the confession. Maybe it was all a tactic hehe
0 likesGosh.... Gee... but like that happened, like, when? a million minutes ago! Gosh... I don't know, doesn't ring a bell
5 likesJODI haha
4 likesDoggy Boy. How creative was Jodi! Lmaooo
2 likes@Watson 98 Yeah she's too emotional
1 like@Diana Vallverdu hahaha I saw that one, the police officer who got arrested 26 years later ... ' oh gee, a million years ago" lol
3 likes@Fabiana Moura Jodi when said that , detectives were like " come on, doggyboy, you're not even trying" lol
2 likes@Só Na Gringa! Omg that interview was a funny one 😂
1 likeEdit: olha lá, fala br! Hehehe
@Fabiana Moura Você também fica vendo caso do canal antes de ir dormir? Kkk
1 like@Só Na Gringa! É o jeito né? 😬 Kkkkkkk
1 likeClassic Jodi Arias 🤣
2 likes@Só Na Gringa! hahahah amazing
1 likeYooooo Jodi
1 like🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesThe referenceeee!!! Oh nooo! I legit cracked up out loud when I read this.
1 likeI understood that reference.
1 like😭😭😭😭
0 likesLOL
1 likenice throwback tho
lol doggy boy
0 likesLMFAO Thats such an inside joke🤣
1 likeJodiiiii
0 likesI see you too are a cultured person of binge watching all of these videos
1 like@Julia Walsh WFH has allowed me to watch too many of these
1 like@DLBMOS that was so hilarious!! Doggyboi!!!!!1 hahahahahahaha
0 likesLmao
0 likesBahahahahahahahahah!!!
0 likesAnd he saves spiders but Pugs can’t swim....
0 likes@Animal Mother you’ve read Infinite Jest?
0 likes"He walked on all 4 of his knees"
1 likeI'm so sorry doggy boy!
0 likesHAHAHA this comment wins the internet today.
1 likeLol
0 likes... and one day he stepped on a bee.
0 likesyou can actually learn something in life from what the narrator says
2 likesFrom a former heroin addict, you don’t get paranoid. It gets to the point where it is literally all you care about and will do it anywhere and everywhere you can. Not buying the story of her being paranoid..
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...fellow former addict here...yup absolutely agree, paranoia is the last thing on your mind
0 likesI love how when he gets left alone at the end he realises what a piece of shit he is and what he has done
0 likesHe realises that all of this could've been prevented, but he didn't.
19:20. Just note how open and gesture dense his body language was prior to the "what happened to your neck?" question. But when he was responding to it, he froze. This is a limbic stress response to perceived threat, and it's a deviation from the baseline behaviour. The dude is not a bad liar, if you don't fact-check it's believable what he says
2 likesI can't wait until 2059 when they finally put 1080p cameras in interrogation rooms.
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And in parking lots
3429 likesWatching this I was thinking I want this in 4k.
387 likesLol
30 likesTyson Q yea, this video is worthless without a clearer picture of his face for an hour. 🤷🏼♂️
121 likesThank you 😂Do I need to donate $30 to these guys?
81 likesThis camera actually had good resolution compared to many others
360 likesReally see the action.
13 likes☺️
3 likesPersonally I don’t like this form of interview. I prefer the strategies of the UK police.
51 likes@PWRFL And in gas stations.
27 likesMindrolling are you able to post a uk video link so I can see the difference, please? I like the British accents too.
75 likes1DaTJones No sorry: I’m a bit rubbish with computers and I have an I Pad so that barely even counts as a computer! Look up UK crime documentaries on YouTube. 24 Hours in Police Custody is a good one.
37 likesI don’t understand how they can send cameras to Mars and beam back extremely clear pictures but almost every CCTV camera is shite. Most of them still use B&W for goodness’ sake!
114 likesI want noise-cancelling body cam mics for freeway noise.
32 likesTyson Q - that’s cost prohibitive tho. Expensive. Law enforcement only needs the audio to confirm what was said for court. They don’t need high resolution close ups on faces. This is an interrogation. Not a soap opera. It’s not entertainment for viewers
80 likes@Mindrolling 😂😂😂 ur comment was hilarious yet so true esp mars 😂😂😂
11 likes@Dante Good A lot of Jim's work focuses on body language including facial expressions, hi-res would be beneficial, even just for training new detectives. You're right about cost, it's probably storage that would take up the most money as they likely have to store all footage they've ever recorded.
67 likesThey have other much more important things to pay money for dude
13 likesEddie L
0 likesLOL
@loveutill theendoftimes I'm sure there's a lot of important things that go into an investigation, with the record of witness and suspect interrogations being pretty high up on that list.
11 likesSue Its funny ‘cos it’s true 🤣
1 likeBy 2059, 1080p will probably be the equivalent of 144p
15 likesWhy the hell do we need HD interrogation video? What do we need to see? We need better audio quality. They should put acoustic tiles on the walls or something and use better microphones. We need HD CCTV cameras instead, in parking lots, street corners, and ATM's so we can capture better evidence of the crime happening. Can't see shit in these grainy videos, and that's what we need to see.
42 likes😆😆😆😆😆
1 likeThe footage storage space would be huuuuggeee. That's the biggest challenge.
17 likes@Eddie L hahaha
0 likesHahahahahah
2 likes@Dante Good 😂😂
1 likeYou don’t need a high-res camera to demonstrate in court that the confession was given voluntarily and not beaten out of the suspect which is why they’re there in the first place.
16 likesAlso, high spec stuff is expensive if meant to work 18 hours a day in a copshop interrogation room for the duration of expected use. People who procure tech for police departments need to balance the cost to the taxpayer with durable products that need little maintenance, which won’t break down, and an expected service life often counted in decades.
Tyson Q lololoolol
1 likeOut of all the cameras in the world, you think the one that puts people away for life would be at least 1080p.
11 likesBut by then we’ll be in 10 k resolution and kids will be making fun of 1080p. Context.
2 likesThat should be a standard for all businesses etc
1 like@Eddie L buahaha. Priceless comment!!
0 likesPictures of black hole literally millions of light years away
5 likesMeanwhile on earth:...
@Eddie L but I dont understand this, a 1080p wifi camera is $30. I bought 4 1080p cameras for my home and got a deal at $100. They're even super clear in night vision. Theres no excuse when they're that cheap the last 5yrs.
9 likesTyson Q and CCTV
1 like@Lucky 44 because these cameras are running 24/7, it would take enormous amount of data storage and bandwith to have every security camera run at 1080p for years
17 likesBy then, they would allow the viewer to experience what the accused is going through with intravenous transported stress hormones.
5 likesTyson Q 😂😂
1 likeThere really isn’t a need for high def interrogation footage. As long as the people can be heard and identified.
5 likes@Cielo Pachirisu pretty sure that was the point of the comment. 🤣🤣
2 likesSo that you can see the picture the female investigator was zooming in?
1 likeNot trying to sound pompous but 100% sure they downscale resolution for numerous reasons..
7 likesTyson Q just a suggestion: it might be so you cant see crime scene photos in detail
6 likes😂
0 likes2059 is too soon I give it another 20 years after that but then by then 1080p will be obsolete
3 likesI was your 2k like. I need validation.
5 likes@Bokmoh Your life has meaning.
8 likesHe should have asked for a when the guy cop asked where was Savanah.
1 likeTruth is, the resolution is good enough for any legal aspect. They won't be replaced until they break, and even then they'll probably be replaced by a unit of similar quality that is compatible with the central system doing the recording.
4 likesI had this exact thought 10 years ago. Except i included my tv.
0 likes@high horse idk where you're from but here in Norway you are only allowed to keep cctv footage for up to 7 days, 30 days at some bank and at military, police, and municipal places....
8 likesThis is not a response to you directly but in general to this thread.
it's still a huge amount of data though, not only for storage but processing too.
Most major companies with bigger surveillance (like a mall or bigger retail) also implement offsite backup because that's the proper way to do it, so double that storage space... suddenly yeah 4k 120fps ultra crips CCTV of the back door doesn't seem that useful, not even with record on motion options.
Some people think bandwidth and storage is free, fyi for the people talking about mars, they also upload that footage at a around 500bits, to 32kbit per seconds. so the way they do it is take the pictures store them on the rover and then transmit that data over a period of hours, days, weeks and months.
Assuming Hulu quality of 1080p video (around 1.4Mpbs low quality "1080p" aka heavy compression) that's 578MB every hour of every day, in my country that would require 97GB per camera to film for 7 days... PER CAMERA, then you need to take into account that you need redundant drives, high quality drives, the network, the processing power to eventually process or "seek" through the footage when needed.... yeah I'm not paying for that shit, neither is Wizrd or any body else that knows how demanding CCTV really is...
Funny how all grainy videos that still exist in today's world are interrogation rooms and UFO sightings XD.
1 likeEddie L Dang what you say makes a lot of sense. Cars will have a zillion cameras and sensors. If police can work this datapool, plus the cellular phone data, they can solve a further gazillion cases. Very fascinating.
0 likesDang dude you act like they commissioned somebody to do a painting of him.
0 likesahahhahahahahhahaaaaaa ahahhahahahaha
0 likesSki Ba ur prob got a decent point there bet it’s on purpose.
0 likesI mean, when the standard gets to 64k, yeah, maybe they'll be 1080p by then
0 likesYou’d think they’d have the funding for this since 4K DVR systems are pretty cheap. Even if they had to drop it to 1080p they could fit the entire case and all footage on a $20 64GB flash drive. I mean they have fucking tanks right? Priorities are all fucked up.
1 like@Mindrolling maybe you would also like the Polish police strategy. they beat a suspect until he looses a consciousness.
0 likes@Eternal Reign how about facial reactions, micro reactions...there is a plethora of things that a very high resolution camera can catch in a split second that can assist further in court cases and even the interviewers themselves when replaying the interrogation.
3 likesThe reason why interrogation rooms, gas stations, parking lots, etc have bad quality is probably just because it would take up less memory to store footage then if it was 1080p, which in the long run means less money on server or physical storage etc
2 likesI agree ☝🏼 👇🏼
0 likesmight have to wait till 3010
0 likesThey need them to run pretty much continually and store the footage, it probably is 480-720p or some shit, then as it gets copied, shared rendered uploaded, it loses a lot of it's original quality/definition. Even original 480 looks good on small SD monitors.
2 likesBut you got 4p
1 likeStorage is too expensive for that to feasible is the reason. People don't understand the costs behind having a shit ton of cameras up and the storage power that it requires to hold them for x-amount of time.
0 likeswish they'd hurry, i'll be dead by then!
2 likesyou mean 720p
0 likesKris Smiley Yh it’s actually 30 FPS most are like 24
0 likes@Mindrolling im intrigued, what's a good video to watch from UK?
0 likesAll they really need is 480p to identify people and evidence plus it would take an insane amount of storages to store thousands of hours of footage on 1080p
1 likeBased on the way things are going, Google and Facebook will be able to predict crimes and will charge the government for that data, but interrogation rooms will still be in 240p.
0 likesAnd to think Walmart now has hi def facial recognition capable cameras and the police stations have these flip phone quality cameras
0 likesPWRFL haha, right? Businesses are like, “do you know this person?” And it’s a photocopied picture taken on a Motorola Razr.
0 likesactualy they do they just digitaly edit them to be potato quality think of how inconvienent it would be for them to actualy have such potato vidio
0 likeswym? they defunding police man. disgraceful. They got this guy and thats proof our system is working somehow.
0 likesEddie L better get that premium only fans from my local police department
0 likeshawk42k more like $30,000
0 likesTyson Q ..Whatever.
0 likesStolen comment
0 likesTell me why 10 year old kids upload videos 1000% higher quality than something that is as important as interrogation rooms
0 likes@Eddie L
0 likesGreat dog line 👍😁
get this, now they wanna defund the police...looks like we're downgrading to the ipod touch front facing camera
0 likesDont worry the cameras installed are really good quality. But you know how much GIG space a good quality video is. And if you have tons of these you need to have a big storage. Well people cut budget so therefore they install cheap and the smallest storage systems. So the ppl that install it need to lower the quality as much as possible. So ye.. 1080p cameras are installed but they all run on shit quality to have more quantity.
0 likesI'm a woman and I'm not impressed with that female Investigator
1 likeBy then we'll all be watching by VR and doing the bunny rabbit ears behind the suspect while he's being interrogated
0 likes@Cielo Pachirisu exactly why the joke is funny.
0 likes@M Sa'ad millions of lightyears? You wish haha
0 likesYeah! Retired and watch this stuff klar!
0 likesMaybe the problem is storage
0 likesAnd it will still be far behind everything else and look super grainy to us.
0 likesYa you think they could take some of that "prison for profit" money and throw some cash at some cameras. Or at least let us PPV live!
0 likes@Dante Good oh this is entertainment alright, they prob get paid to release the footage. Sort of like prison for profit!
0 likesIf I ever saw one of these in Hi Def. I would probably ask if it was real lol
1 like@Eternal Reign facial expression
0 likesLmaooooo
0 likesmost of them are low quality to save HD space.
0 likesI work in a jail and hate our cameras
0 likesGoogle maps??? Satellites
0 likesSurveillance cameras are crap too. Why not use Gopros? They’d solve a lot more crimes if it weren’t “a man who seemed to have brown hair can faintly be seen leaving the car.”
0 likesLawyers will be arguing its low footage its only 1080p
0 likes@Dante Good It's not though, storage costs was the original excuse, but it's 2020 now, not 1950, 1TB is like 30 bux these days, if even that. It would cost like 100k to store a century of footage.
1 likeOptimistic timeline
0 likesHaha.. u win best comment
0 likesthis is great lol
0 likes@Kris Smiley that's true. I have set up many security systems as of late. Getting a good camera is about 800$ vs a decent one at about 100$ dollars, there is a huge difference. Many people opt into a 60$ or less camera for their setup and wonder why the quality is complete shit. Prices vary of course, but there is a huge gap between the middle of the ground systems and up.
0 likesMoop, defund the police.
0 likesRight?!
0 likesI can't wait till they put 1080p surveillance cameras on the sides of buildings.
0 likesLMBO
0 likesIt's actually on purpose
0 likesAnd 1080 p street cameras too
0 likesdidn't you hear?.. we're defunding the police... there'a wn't BE any police, interragation rooms or cameras.
0 likesTruth is that the quality of the video is next to irrelevant; you cannot be condemned of a crime for a facial expression.
0 likesIll be 70 years old then 😂
0 likes😂
0 likesIts gonna be 3040 when they put 720p cameras in gas stations
0 likesIf everyone wasnt so scared of 5G we'd have them all know. Japan does. Their cameras scan your face as soon as you drive into the parking lot.
0 likesSameee
0 likesno shit, maybe the city will finally up their budget by a few hundred dollars
0 likes@PWRFL if parking lot cams had HD stuff they couldn't store that for a long time, the longer they can store it before removing, the better
0 likes@Mindrolling those are CGI's same with your pictures of earth
0 likesmeta thought: what if by then 1080p looks this bad to our eyes in 2059 bc quality just keeps getting better 😱
0 likesTyson Q how is it that cameras for entertainment is 800,000k but cameras that matter still on the 240p shit. Make it make sense
0 likesWhy fix what's not broken,?
0 likesNah man we aren’t gone get that far because judgement day is right around the corner, sorry dude 🤷🏻♂️
0 likesLMFAO lol.
0 likesI'll be 100 then.
0 likesImagine being a body language expert trying to analyze the 4 pixels that make up the suspect in interrogation footage.
1 like@Eddie L .l
0 likesPeel the scab at work. Yuk. No one should ever go the bonefish grill.
0 likesHopefully they will be on Twitch by then lmao
0 likesneed to solve the storage problem first
0 likesSarcasm's soo thick I'm literally rolling 🤣
0 likesTyson Q dont forget good mics too
0 likesi am not sure why people are still so dumb to answer any questions from the police. whether you are guilty or innocent, NEVER, EVER talk to the police. this concludes my ted talk.
0 likesLol
0 likesAt least they can use 4k Dolby vision
0 likesMindrolling You have a good point, but unmanned space programs are expensive, but don’t get the attention that manned spaced flight does. Remember how a mistake in manufacturing the main lens nearly wrecked the Hubble Space Telescope. Fortunately a crew was able to correct the error, and we have learned a tremendous amount from those images.
0 likesHere, there are human eyes and ears right in the room. There are no human eyes on Mars, so learning anything depends on those cameras working, and reveling detail.
But I agree that there should be higher quality cameras here, because if someone is going to analyze body language, a higher resolution would help.
Its too much sadly
0 likes1080p would take too much hard drive space.
0 likesOr 4k! So we can see the beads of sweat as they form on a suspect's forehead. But not on the street corners, because ya gotta at least give them a chance to get away with it lol
0 likesWaiting for 2100 when they’re in 2160p
0 likesI know, my old iPhone 5 camera makes a better video.
0 likesMindrolling i like the mexican police ways to interrogate suspects the are very good at it
0 likes@Mindrolling because NASA has a budget of $22 billion a year.
0 likesIt helps them solve cases it’s easier matching someone to a blur
0 likesThe pigs confiscated a phone from me 6 years ago that had better resolution
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likes@Mindrolling Be glad there are cameras in there. They don't have them in China.
0 likesThey could literally take a iPhone and use it as their camcorder and would record better
1 like@PWRFL hhh
0 likesNo I like believing he’s being interrogated by Lt. Dangle wearing a suit.
0 likesWe have fridges with better cameras
0 likes😘
(some samsung fridge u can check what's in it from your phone)
@hawk42k no..... Just forward any cash to ME.....
0 likes@Mindrolling are you from the UK....?
0 likes@Song Writer63 it's not an accent.... That's how English sounds when spoken properly.....
0 likes@Mindrolling cameras on mars send information to earth that is interpreted by a computer to create, the images they show aren't sent that way....
0 likes@Dante Good high resolution close ups on faces reveal micro expressions, which are useful to interviewers, that may have been unnoticed without high quality images.....
1 likeIn 2059 I want virtual reality in interrogations
0 likesWait another 20 years on top of that to get some proper lenses
0 likesIs there any reason or purpose behind why so many police/surveillance cams in stores like this are such bad video quality?Outdated equipment yet to be replaced or limited funding?
0 likesIt would come out of my tax dollars and I don’t think it’s necessary so I hope they don’t do that
0 likes@Mindrolling erm, cost perhaps XD
0 likesE It was a little odd to be honest , I was thinking I know they do the good cop bad cop in interrogation . But at one point it sounded like the female detective was crying . That’s something I’ve never seen .
0 likesI cant wait until Article 13 takes effect and it copyright strikes these kinds of comments
0 likesLMAO!!!
0 likesCould be 3030...
0 likesThey get millions btw
0 likes@Kris Smiley most use the cameras that are found at good will stores
0 likesIts not only a matter of camera as that is a one off purchase. The main problem is cost of video storage as they must keep the interrogation recordings stored for a really long time.
0 likesI'd be happy with 480p. These look like 240p at best.
0 likesResolution isnt the problem, encoding is. It is harder than you might be thinking to keep large amount of footage.
0 likesPWRFL you spit the truth, these businesses with their cheap security cameras
0 likes@Mindrolling it's not that they cant record these interrogations in ultra high definition, they most certainly can. The real issue is storage fees. Something people usually dont think about, but the file sizes of raw HD videos are just still so massive, that they need to be compressed down to store onto blu Ray's, dvds, etc.
1 likeThe time and cost of storing raw HD video, compressing and converting it down to a manageable size for ease of transfer, like in a FOIA request such as how this channel gets its videos, for the entirety of the USA police forces interrogation rooms alone, would run in the billions. And in all honesty, it's a waste of taxpayer dollars for better video of a guy confessing to killing someone for 5hrs, whichs primary purpose is in court, and then its saved as public record.
NASA probes have 1 mission. That mission takes months or years to get to where its going, and then spends a few minutes or hours at most in orbit around a planet, transmitting back data and video/photos, before it is burnt up in the planets atmosphere as it slowly falls closer and closer. Those single probes cost millions and millions of dollars to make, millions more to launch, and millions more to get that pretty photo sent back to earth, through a system of satellites and radio telescopes across the globe and in space, that cost untold billions to establish. But that's their only job. The police have thousands of cases a year which budgets need to be divested into, not all of them murder confessions.
@high horse whose cameras are running 24/7? It depends who you're even talking about. For starters, the OP's comment was a joke. Second, most businesses don't NEED hard drives big enough to record for more than a month, and some even a couple of weeks. Thats why when a crime is committed police habe to get in touch with business owners ASAP bc the average business with CCTV only has the last 2-4 weeks recorded, so each day that passes becomes a chance of losing whatever was recorded.
0 likesNow if you're talking about the police interrogation rooms, that could vary tremendously.
Police forces in 'Murica prefer to spend their money on armoured personnel carriers and weapons.
0 likesI WELCOME A CHALLENGE >:) !!!
0 likesIK right?!
0 likesAhahah. I'm afraid that with all those shitty budgets and motion to defund the police, you can wait till 2200 for 720p
0 likesWhoah hold up , so you don’t want the precinct to have enough money for their annual Lake Havasu Christmas Trip .....easy eh ...
0 likesMindrolling you mean you prefer not to be lied to by the police , known as entrapment . I have had to give witness statements as a victim twice and police do like to move seats around , or rooms and even when typing up the statement of mine with the Detective , they make sure I’m still positioned in a corner so I feel like I can’t leave or even ask to go to the toilet, which I did and also had many “cigarette breaks , I don’t smoke but they don’t know that , so I would leave and come back and I don’t feel intimidated anymore by police . They are trying to be actors ...with a lot less pay and a more dangerous work environment .
0 likesDante Goodman but Dante have you seen the amazing clear footage on current body cams ? Like the officer that attended Chris Watts house , and Lori Daybelle’s ex husband had an officer turn up to his home and the PO had a body cam too , with great audio and video ! I’ve seen amazing hidden camera footage from surveillance of a suspect or when interrogating a suspect instead of wearing a wire they can put an HD pin size camera ,, it’s just what does that particular local council budgets for the police ....
0 likes2059 is too soon. Maybe 2072?
0 likes:)
0 likesGary McCaffrey woh woh, not so fast buddy. Take a step at a time
0 likesthe video quality isn't good, but the mic that pics up the audio is on point.
0 likes@Mindrolling Lots and lots of $.
0 likesYou my friend have earned this 14K 👍🏾
1 likethe high quality of the camera, the bigger memory saving that they have to safe, but I wish it was HD either
0 likesTyson Q haHAAAAAA. Awesome.
0 likesthis is so accurate. i think it'll be more like 720p tho
0 likes2059: 720p
0 likes3029: 1080p
And CCTV
0 likes@Mindrolling All you get is "no comment" in the UK what strategies?
0 likes@Eddie L surprised they don't realise the interrogation room footage with ads.
0 likesbut by then we already think it looks like it was filmed with a microwave
0 likes@Mindrolling US uses REID, which is more "Entertaining" then the UK "PEACE" Interrogation. REID basically is an interview technique that seek confession, while PEACE is an interview technique that seek "The Truth"
0 likesAlso worth notice that it is illegal if you do what they do in this video in the UK, they outlawed the REID Interrogated technique i think since 1980s.
@Song Writer63 What the UK Police do is similar to a Q and A session with the suspect, you cannot ask anything other than what related to the case to the suspect, you ask the suspect a summary, then present evidence to counter the suspect story and ask them for the reason for the discrepency, you are not allowed to intimated the suspect, chichat or do anything you see on this video and you have to sit across the suspect the whole time with the Lawyer sat next to the suspect.
0 likesBasically UK Police Video is very boring....
You can just type UK Police Interview on youtube and you will find tons of those video..
180p lol
0 likes2059- flying cars, teleportation, AI and interegstion videos still 720p. 👽
0 likesThis is a bitmap lol
0 likesLol
0 likesNever happen if they keep defending departments.
0 likesman 2059 i ll be dead by then cuz shame i ll miss the actio n
0 likes@schmeckelgruben Nvidia RTX Voice
0 likes@Mindrolling it takes up way too many GB of space to record weeks of footage in HD
0 likesyea no kidding. i love how they can change police vehicles every few years costing millions upon millions of dollars but cant spend 1000 dollars for each station to have quality cameras.
1 likeI mean its not that expensive, twice the price but you got the FACES detailed. Could cut a lot of budget in investigating
0 likesWe will be fully integrated by then.
0 likes@Billy Bob Bobson Huh Obviously it would be more interesting with a clearer image on his face, even only to see more the facial expressions, blinks, eye contact etc.
1 likeBy 2059 they will have cameras in everyones house.
0 likesYann Sauvin yea, this video sucked without seeing the guy blink.
0 likes@Billy Bob Bobson Don't play the idiot, the video is interesting even in low quality, but if you're interested in analyzing the psychology of someone, expressions, eyes movement and tiny details are as relevant as verbal and body posture, gestures etc.
1 like@Billy Bob Bobson Bob, Yann told you NOT to play the idiot. Though I guess that's difficult when you're not playing and just are one.
0 likesTyson Q good one. You and Yann should quit clapping each other’s cheeks.
0 likes@Billy Bob Bobson But it feels so goooood Bobby boy
0 likes@Billy Bob Bobson Don't work me into your fantasies Bobert
0 likes@Billy Bob Bobson Hahah you've taken it full circle with the mom joke, brilliant comedic execution
0 likesLool
0 likesIf they can make videos take up less space or mabye well have 100tb hard drives that wpuld be pretty badass
0 likesPWRFL ong😂😂
0 likesmaybe they are cheaper by then to fill 1029382109381203812093812391823091283103983102381038232 police rooms AND all over the world to film evidence for everything
0 likes😂😂
0 likeslmao
0 likesthese cams take footage of many hours. Making them full HD would take so much disk space.
0 likesThe problem is not about HD cams, it's about the storage space for HD video files.
0 likesKeeping days and days and days and days and days worth of video in 1080p, much more 4k would be pretty big eh?
0 likesEvery interrogation video I watch, I always assume it's many years older. Convinced it is. Until I Google the case. That's the real suprise!
0 likes@Tyson Q the detectives are seeing his body language and will witness to it in court. not seeing his eye twitch once will not help flip the tables.
0 likes@Mislav B. You can’t know the importance of evidence unless you first have it
0 likes@Tyson Q a facial expression does not evidence make. and these people are trained to spot abormalities that would suggest guilt, they know full well what to look for. capturing every movement or contortion of the face is not the relevant part of body language here.
0 likes@Mislav B. Facial expressions are not concrete evidence, but maybe clues for where to look, or the final straw for a jury’s decision.
0 likesFr
0 likesI can't wait until 2059 when he finally finished his sentence
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
0 likesand a 8meapixel on on security cameras ahhaha
0 likesYou know anything about storage buddy?
0 likes@edubble17 Sure do "buddy". Here's a comment I posted 9 months ago in response to someone who brought up the topic of storage much less passive aggressively: "You're right about cost, it's probably storage that would take up the most money as they likely have to store all footage they've ever recorded."
0 likes@Lucky 44 it's mostly about the storage space I think. 1080p video just isn't worth the cost of storage, even in 2020 for something like this. These videos are actually worse than 480p DVD quality (pop in a DVD someday and you'll be surprised at how much better it looks than this) so even proper 480p with a higher bitrate would be a noticable improvement technically, but effectively? There's little real world benefit to having high resolution video of this nature. Will the standard be 1080p someday? Almost certainly. Is it needed? Probably not.
0 likesNo its creepier this way keep it
1 likeHa ha. I laughed so hard at this comment.
0 likesYou gotta sign up to their only fans for the HD version
0 likesJust imagine in 2150 when they put 8k 120fps survilance cameras
0 likes@Library Of Thoughts Why would law enforcement care about lowering the resolution of a video if they are releasing it to public domain and identities are not being protected? The reason the video is low resolution is space, like many other people have said. Make sure you know what you’re talking about before calling someone stupid next time.
0 likesOr in fucking parking lots like what was that surveillance footage?? All CCTV cameras are shitty like that smh
0 likesNah you just gotta subscribe to their premium service for the hi-def
0 likesYou really make me lough
0 likesAnd on passenger planes in cockpits.
0 likes720p is more than enough. You don't want a 3D movie
0 likesI can't wait til interrogation rooms no longer exist.
0 likes@Alyssa Stevens Most criminals have been caught via interrogation. Eliminating them would mean letting many guilty walk free.
0 likes@Alyssa Stevens That will never happen!
0 likesI want an on screen heart rate monitor
1 like@Eddie L I'd gladly pay money to their patreon just so they finally afford some good cameras lmao
0 likesDo you know how expensive it is to store that much footage? 1080p takes up a lot of data.
0 likes@Brandon Depending on compression/bitrate you can get an hour of 1080p video down to 300 mb. Google One has a service where you can store 2 TB of data for $140 a year. Using these numbers you could roll a camera 24/7 in a room and it would only cost you $184 a year. Realistically though the police would not be using Google services because 1. Privacy issues and 2. Google is obviously charging more than it costs to store your data as they are a business. Setting up local servers inside the police station would be an upfront cost but be even cheaper than using Google One in the long run. Multiply $184-ish by however many interrogation rooms you have in an office, and subtract the hours of the day that the camera does not have suspects in it, and I don't think the cost would be unfeasible for a government funded operation.
0 likesThey can now but they don't wanna pay for them.
0 likesHyuck hyuck. Maybe by 2059 this stupid joke will die.
0 likes@Bernie Lomax I dunno man, it's been 11 months and people like you are still responding to it. I think it could stick around for a while.
0 likesYess! Sometimes I watch the videos with a picture of the suspect on my Phone to try and figure out how they’d look saying what they’re saying
0 likesLmao this comment was a yr ago but I just read it 😂😂 this one wins!!!!
0 likesI think the government put low resolution cameras intentionally for security reasons. And preventing classified documents to be seen by cameras.
0 likesAudio quality before that, most are soooo silent and trash
1 like@Lucky 44 data storage for 1080p is no joke because of the amount of detail required to be stored...for an hour of videos, I'm talking over a gigabyte. Take and multiply hours an investigation could last.
0 likesHow old r u now ?
0 likesI will be 80, and if I’m dead this will be a sleeping account in the domes of YouTube servers
0 likesFunny cause thats almost exactly when Lee will be released
0 likes@Mindrolling Well, they never been to the moon....
0 likes@Eddie L yo wtf bro😂😂😂
0 likesDamn 😔
0 likes@Eddie L *onlyfans
0 likesBy then, 1080P will be the VHS of today.
0 likesHigher quality takes more space, and they're recording hours worth of footage in a day. So yeah
0 likes@Fried Miracle How much do you know about video compression and cost of storage?
0 likesomg YES
0 likes@Eddie L except CCTV in England has been high def for over 10 years
0 likes@Eddie L HAHAHAHAHAHA YES
0 likesThey are confirmed to be distributed by 2077.
0 likes@Mindrolling it’s because security cameras have to record data 24/7 it’s much easier and cheaper to store 480p video because it’s a smaller file. 1080p video has files that are like 4 times bigger.
0 likesJeez man, 4K at LEAST, assuming you want full identification instead of jsut a few useful features like hair color/style, clothes, and basic facial info if they’re fairly clos
0 likes@high horse no with 8 TB ssd's
0 likesoptimistic lol
0 likes@PWRFL surveillance cameras are a weird one cause generally they either work on a 24(or more or less idk) hour loop and just keep recording over the last loop which degrades the film, or if it's digital you gotta realize that 24 hours straight of 1080p is a HUGE file
0 likesForget 1080p 4k!!!!!!!
0 likesJust put a ring doorbell in there; I seen some pretty good video from those. 🙃
1 like@Eddie L why and how would electric cars store all the massive amount of video they capture?
0 likesEhh the interview room is pretty boring
0 likesAt least, we can't complain about the audio.
0 likesPeople in 2059 will be like
0 likes"1080p? 🤮🤮🤮 this camera quality sucks!"
Too expensive
0 likes@shook lizard nope.
0 likesPeople think it’s easy to have a 4K camera record months of footage lol
0 likesThey use 2mp or 4mp because it’s takes up less memory after 6 months or so it could take up to 8TB of memory. Which is a lot. Imagine a 4K camera. It could add up to 100TB easily.
@hhhhhh 4K footage can be quite tiny (H.265, the standard for YouTube videos) or quite big (VLOG, high dynamic range and lots of colour info). It can also be compressed to be stored. It would be simple and not that expensive to set up if they prioritized it.
0 likesDo you know how big would be this hour of record in 1080full hd?
0 likesThey would have to save and delete all footages every day...
Thats why... the same is in cameras in airplanes, trains...
@Penguinable Dude videography is my job. 1080p video can be compressed down to a few mbs for storage. There are more variables than just resolution that contribute to how big a video file is. Data storage is not as expensive as it was even a year ago when I made the original comment. What are you basing your opinion on, a gut feeling?
0 likes@PWRFL when interrogation rooms have 1080p, parking lot security cameras will only have 720p
0 likesthey already have one in 720p!! just check out the police departments onlyfans. has it all
0 likesAnd on the Pentagon lol I'm not a conspiracy guy but that 9/11 security footage was ridiculous lol
0 likesI had just got my first job at a shitty little convenience store and their cameras were so shit but somehow still 10 times better then the fucking Pentagon!
People would kill for a job at bonefish grill is my take after seeing this. Are we sure this isn't some elaborate scheme by bonefish grill to get applicants?
0 likes@Eddie L This interrogation footage is brought to you by Raid Shadow Legends
0 likesMake it 2030
0 likesThey have that they just release low quality
0 likesOne of those situations where you KNOW he's guilty, you KNOW he knows where she is, but you can't legally beat the truth out of him.
0 likesPerfect timing for a security camera malfunction....
I’ve never seen an interrogator act as unhinged as this female investigator. Pretty effective though. This dude could’ve got away with this easily. All he had to do was ask for a lawyer. He’d be out walking around.
0 likesHis final moments of the realization of what he has done is the definition of torment.
0 likesI can't believe I just found your channel. 😭 But I am so happy I did! Amazing work.
1 likeAm I the only one who feel like if I get accused of murder I would be so afraid of looking guilty that I would look guilty 😭
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Me too! My biggest fear honestly
108 likesfunny you should say that.. me and the boys downtown have a few questions to ask you. we need you to come with us down to the station. you got a unpaid parking ticket.
312 likesAsk for a lawyer or a public defender
55 likesHahaha sameeeee
2 likesCheck out JCS’s newer video, “Guilty Until Proven Innocent”
27 likesIf you don't know what happened then you'd be able to talk your way out of looking guilty. They know how a guilty person behaves. The "how long have you known her" question, that should have taken 10 seconds tops, but took over 5 minuttes, is a dead give away.
30 likesi would probably pee my pants
6 likesYes, social phobia
4 likesDon't talk without a lawyer present. Guilty or innocent.
26 likesThats why even innosent people should use the right to a lawyer any time your questioned by police
16 likesDon't worry, life comes at you fast as fuck you probably will be guilty, oh my comment didn't help your anxiety. Nah but every time I go through an airport I get "randomly" selected every time for a search because I'm anxious lol and thats on xanax im trying my best
9 likesMe too. Also to get a lie detector test that lied on me.
2 likesI would just flat out refuse to say anything without a lawyer, they can twist any statement of you
6 likesnahh i feel the same, thanks anxiety
2 likes@Sanne G That's not precisely true. Innocent people can and do sometimes talk themselves into a jail cell. It's surely not a big portion, or so we hope, but it does happen.
4 likes@Raycloud That's not because people accidentally talked themselfes into prison, that's because the cops don't have any real leads, so they just go for the first and the best "suspect" they can get their paws on.
0 likesIf you were on the incident site, but you don't have an alibi, yeah, then you can talk yourself into prison, but how often does that happen? Like for real, 1 out of a 10.000 times I guess. So yeah, I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's highly unlikely that you can talk yourself into prison, when you're being truthful. :)
Same here. And that’s on anxiety 😄
0 likescops know the difference between the things, there are small differences in your actions between being nervous of being caught or being nervous of being accused
3 likesNo, but I'm afraid they will find my Batman suit with the ass cut out."
6 likesAnt Wan - Is that a confession?
3 likesNo doubt I would totally fall apart I think
1 like@ErinNicole I see these IGNORANT people talking their way straight into PRISON!,All one has to do guilty or innocent.
2 likesSay the wrong thing!.
Me too 🤦🏻♀️
0 likesHahaha
0 likes@KnowDude true that!
1 likeI'm confident that I could survive an interrogation.
1 like@False Flag either.
1 like@False Flag to stay calm and respond with short clear and concise answers, truthful or otherwise
1 like@Herbstone Jeffery Dahmer has entered the chat
2 likesSomeone started their defense early...
1 likejust ask for a lawyer along with a coke and butterfinger, and you'll be off the hook
1 likeRoughly 10% of the prison population are innocent. Which means, we're likely to be apart of that percentage. Look at it this way. It's complete bullshit when they say your innocent until proven guilty. Once your in court, people automatically assume your guilty. Or why else would you be there, they would think.
1 likeIf you are not murder they leave you free now technology and forensic develop a lot
0 likesThere is actually another video on this same channel that speaks more to that exact scenario. Its really interesting but they explain how even introverted and naturally nervous people that they call the uncommon subject will react differently in an interrogation when they are innocent than if they were guilty
3 likesNope. I over explain what I had for breakfast....
4 likesTOTALLY!!!
0 likesYea everytime narrator says an innocent person would say this or say that I fear I'd be the one who acts unconventional. There has to be anomalies out there that give off the guiltiest vibes but are innocent.
2 likes@Cayde-00 These vids are all with obvious guilty parties, but it would be great to see an interrogation where the person is NOT guilty, and do they succumb to the same pressure of admission. I don't understand how "they have the right to remain silent" and then they break them down into talking.
3 likes@blue33 oh yea that would definitely be interesting. Maybe he'll have videos like that sometime in the future to compare scenarios.
1 like@Cayde-00 Maybe if the person is found "not guilty" the tapes are not made public.
2 likes@ErinNicole this was what I was about to say. ALWAYS lawyer up. Going in without a lawyer is like being attacked with no defense.
2 likesI think that would be me too. Even when I was a kid if I got accused of something that I didn't do I would look guilty sometimes.
2 likesWell then, figure out the things in life that make you lose confidence
0 likes@KnowDude thats the truth
0 likes@P.M.C. Spartan i don't understand-how did you get out of that situation?
0 likesYes. You are.
0 likes@P.M.C. Spartan .... what a strange place to recruit people to your victim hood. Ok buddy.
0 likesWhy are u getting accused of murder in the first place 😏
0 likes@P.M.C. Spartan I don’t care. Remember I’m “Karen” and Karen don’t care she offended you also your on you tube literally trying to talk up crazy women - your story is hard to believe and I’ll tell you typically if a woman says a man beat her it wasn’t her who beat herself. Why even share this story? It’s such a niche never gonna happen scenario and chances of it happening like you said are so tiny- most women who say they’ve been beat HAVE. The truth always comes out- if you are innocent it comes to light. did you really think a Karen comment wouldn’t surface? Find somewhere else to fan your victim story or expect “Karen “ to boo you
0 likes@whitney livingston obviously you do or why care enough to read let alone comment your opinion. I don't care if you don't believe me. I don't owe you shit.
1 like@P.M.C. Spartan it was the longest comment on the thread so I read it - and it’s not about believing you- it’s why did you post it? Was it to say a man has no power if a woman wants to frame him? Or was it for sympathy? Why? Because to me it frames women in a bad light and tries to shine men in a victimized position because of his strength and the stigma that comes with “hitting a girl” - also ... of course we care or this dialogue wouldn’t be happening but it’s WHAT we care about that I feel may difffer- I’m not victim shaming you I’m just confused why you chose THIS type of video to say women do beat themselves up and here’s my proof. I’m sorry for trolling your story.
0 likesI brought it up because I felt the topic of discussion was and is relatable. Not to seek empathy nor sympathy or to bash women but to warn others that it's very much a possibility. From what I've gone through myself. Others can look back at this and remember that any person can be easily mistaken as a liar just as I have. People from all walks of life have spent days, months, years. Even decades in prison for crimes they didn't commit. Roughly 10% of the incarcerated are actually innocent. I'm just thankful to be sharing my story with others. I apologize for calling you a Karen.
3 likesThey got a video about that too
0 likesI think this sometimes and then remember we have a fight or flight reaction that would kick in to make us rise to the occasion and literally fight for our lives to prove our innocence. Easier said than done im sure but it's something
1 likeHey if that makes you nervous then take a polygraph test and it will read as if you are guilty!
0 likesDo not ever talk to the police if you are being questioned for a serious crime. Immediately call an attorney and invoke your 5th amendment right.
1 like@Douglas89 though good for your reputation they aren't admissible right
0 likesAhah same
0 likesDamn, I'm even afraid when I enter a store where there are scanning machine, anxiety goes up especially when leaving. I'm well aware I'm not guilty of any shit but the feeling still lingers.
1 likeI have a bad habit of laughing when i am stressed or scared in a serious situation they will send me to jail
1 likeYou posting that suggests you are guilty!
0 likes@Winston Smith he is guilty , I just signed his arrest
0 likes@Ant Wan 😂
1 likeThat’s what a guilty person would say
0 likesThat isnt really a concern unless youre not guilty but youre also a sociopath lmao. It’s natural to be afraid. And a lawyer is needed always because some people can be very unprofessional as well.
0 likesYou wouldn't though.
0 likesIt happens to people all the time
0 likesnah I'm trained in giving these kind of interviews, and we would probably know, because there are multiple complicated ways an innocent person vs a guilty person would act, what they would say, how they say it, etc. it's hard to entirely perfectly replicate a guilty profile when you are not actually guilty
0 likesBig facts
0 likesanxiety could make someone look suspicious too
0 likes@ErinNicole Best advice period. However if it was something that was time sensitive (missing child, kidnapping etc) I would probably talk without a lawyer so they can get off they ass and into the next lead or suspect.
1 likeBAHHAA WHY DOES THAT MAKE SO MUCH SENSE
0 likesWhen i watch these i feel like half the shit they do, guilty or not, is so stupid i would do everything better than them, but i know they must be soooo nervous
0 likesme lmao
0 likesNot at all. I do the same thing
0 likesI’d lawyer up and shut up
0 likeshonestly either I would completely shut down like the stephen mcdaniel case, either I would be laughing my pants off seeing detectives trying to get something out of me when I'm completely innocent
0 likes"The last time you get to wear a chef coat..."
7 likesCheer up Lee, I'm sure there's plenty of openings for chef positions in prison!
The cops are a great duo, the woman constantly pleading and the guy interjecting aggressively, even just watching it it's pretty overwhelming.
0 likesI love how Lee only apologizes to Savannah once he's admitted and charged with first degree murder
2 likesMan I don't get why people talk to cops with out a lawyer. "Innocent people don't ask for lawyer" don't let them play you.
10 likesDetective: “what is your date of birth?”
8962 likesLee: “it was a dark and stormy night...”
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🤣
20 likes😂😂
5 likesThe day I was born the forest of Lordaeron whispered the name....
19 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likelmaooo hahaha
1 like😂😂😂
1 like😂🤪😂🤪😂
1 likeIt’s like a Dickens novel. 😂
5 likesDetective “When did you see her last?”
14 likesLee “This one time at band camp”
🤣 fax
1 likeLmaooooo
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes😭😭💀
0 likesIn a kingdom far far away..
3 likes@Michael Theoret He is only caps when referring to "God".
0 likesROFLOL!!!
0 likes😭😭😭
0 likesLee Stormborn, first of his name, dropper of soap, king of the handcuffs and terrible lies
2 likes"The whole of Westeros felt the power of the storm.... the dogs were howling in King's Landing...."
1 likemy name is yoshikage kira
0 likesHere is the Original Semitic Text. HERE is The ONLY Savior
0 likesYaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL" <— YaH’s Crucifixion
He - "Behold the Breath"
“Behold the HAND that Beholds The NAIL”
PROVES - YAH The Heavenly Father HIMSELF was Who they Crucified
That is EXACTLY what Moses Wrote
Here is what they mean
YaH's Name:
(Ya)d + (H)e, as YaH is what Moses called Him and YaH Declared: "this is My Name, this is My Name for all generations" (Exodus 3)
YaH is The Creator of “MAN”:
Yad He, (HAND BREATH), as YaH's "HAND" Formed man from the dust of the Earth and His "BREATH" made him a living being (Adam)
YaH's Sacrifice of Crucifixion for “MAN”:
Vav He (NAIL BREATH), the "NAIL" through YaH’s "HAND", that whosoever shall call YaH Savior, His “BREATH” brings forth life (Salvation)
How YaH arrives:
YaH arrives via the Tent of Meeting (Exodus 33:7:11, Isaiah 54, 55), where a Tent is erected outside the city, a cloud descends upon the entrance of the Tent and YaH appears...
Why they demanded YaH to be Crucified:
YaH was Crucified according to Hebrew law (Deuteronomy 21), to be Hung on an Almond Tree for BLASPHEMY as it was for His NAME they demanded Him Crucified. The Messiah claimed He was YaH...
HE WAS YaH!!!
HalleluYAH “Praise ye YaH”
From The Hebrew Book of Isaiah, The Dead Sea Scrolls
Isaiah 42:8
"I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.
Isaiah 43:11
I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me.
Isaiah 45:5
I am YaH, and there is none else.
@Emma DownUnder I love Dickens, one of the best ever, peace👍
0 likesPls😭
0 likes😹😹😹
0 likesTop ten comment of all time!
0 likes😝
0 likesLmao
0 likeslmao
0 likesYeah! #FreeLee
0 likes@Michael Theoret dude how old are you lol
0 likesHahaha
0 likesCracks me UP!
0 likes❤️ Humor!
I really like how the detective on the right's strategy is just "beg for a confession" and it works
0 likesThe only thing JCS has ever been wrong about is his comment about him crying. His circumstances don't make it easier to see him weep. His circumstances make me love the weeping. He is, of course, weeping for himself and his consequences. Shame will hit hard when he sees anyone who knows him. I'd love the credits to scroll over video of each murderer weeping in an interrogation room after breaking. I swear it's the sound of light rain or waves in the distance. It's the sound of knowing you can lie down several women in a bowling alley and then you can be all extra with it.
0 likesLook, I realize an Adderall isn't exactly gonna put you in another dimension, but why do they even bother asking if you're under the influence of drugs or alcohol, if they're just gone continue with the interrogation while you're under the influence of drugs or alcohol?
2 likes"I'm so sorry, Savannah..."
8 likesIf you were sorry, you wound't've killed her. You're sorry because you're going to jail for a long time. Have a nice life, Lee.
"when people are innocent they talk less"
5067 likeslee: recites the bee movie script
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This comment took me out 🤭
25 likesI need to catch up on callmekevin
13 likesMy friend could say the SpongeBob Movie word for word.. The original one
16 likesLee recites the Bee Movie, but everytime the word 'bee' is said he recites every Seinfeld episode.
28 likesOmg 🤣🤣🤣🤣
4 likesAdderall
7 likeshe could just wait for a lawyer and lie saying that she left his house after having sex
7 likesLMAOOOOOOO
1 liketrue 😂
1 likeThat is not always the case. When some people are scared they tend to talk more.
8 likesTrue that!
1 likeTo be fair he was on adderall lol
1 like@Ano nymous exactlyyyyyy. I’ve been in a situation where I ended up in an interrogation room for something I didn’t do. Someone literally stabbed themselves in front of me and the emotions that you go through once you end up in that room!? A law abiding citizen!? “Do I appear too educated, therefore, manipulative?” “Am I not being forthcoming enough or too much?” All the while, not even knowing if someone is alive or dead. Thank goodness the person lived and told the ambulance driver what they did, but if they’d died, seeing all the assumptions made, understandable as they are, doesn’t matter what I said, how I’d behaved - if they’d died, I’d be behind bars. Period. This shit is scary.
8 likes@Avo Kimber that's really f**ed up shit. I am glad it all turned out well.
6 likesHaving ADHD means I have to sound guilty to all hell. I'm more long winded than this guy with co-workers who think they're about to make "small" talk
1 likeNOT THE BEE MOVIE🤣
1 likeI didn't expect to laugh this hard while scrolling through the comments hahaha
1 like@francis weir Imagine if he just stopped talking about the case mid sentence and started reciting Seinfeld
1 likeMore like recites avengers endgame movie script 😂😂 the dude went on a whole ass rant
1 likeCriminals: Write that down, write that down
1 likeThe way the female interrogator asks questions is so different to the usual male interrogators we see. A lot more emotional appeal and really making the suspect feel guilty.
0 likesThe moment the female detective said "But that's not true because we have proof" had me SCREAMING!!! YAAASS tell 👏him👏
0 likesthe female detective acts like i none of the other detectives ive seen on this channel, yet the way she interrogated lee was outstanding
1 likeDamn the female detective either got into character and played it well or she is really invested in this case.
1 like“So how do you know Savannah?”
25398 likesLee: confesses to 30 crimes
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I KNOW RIGHT. It felt like he just wanted to get it all out
1343 likes@Ivan Nio its the addies
492 likesHis biggest mistake, he didn't ask for a coke
1421 likesRight.. he told on himself at the beginning of the interview
249 likes@supra angel plus a butterfinger
403 likes😂😂
19 likesOfc he was talking alot about that shit... He felt guilty AF at that moment bc he killed her and wanted to get rid of some guilt feeling by confessing smaller things. Also he's on Adderal.
321 likes@Tim Marker or tell them that his dad drives a mercedes and he loves that baby
257 likes@Ses Pez it’s from the Jeff video! He’s a heroin addict who was booked for armed robbery and told the detective he’d only talk if he got his coke and butterfinger. He got his coke and didn’t talk without the butterfinger🤣
166 likesNothing to do with guilt, thought he was appearing open and genuine by divulging personal information
47 likes45 years later
20 likes@supra angel Jeff! The legend.
42 likes@supra angel and a butterfinger!
10 likeshahahahha
2 likes@Ivan Nio Yeah I lie too when I'm sober.
7 likesHahahahahahahaha . This comment got me curious. And yes, it was true. Funny!
2 likesI was in one when I went to africa
0 likesIts to come across as more honest and trustworthy by committing to lesser crimes
5 likesHear me out before you start hating.
33 likesThe level of anguish and hopelessness he must be feeling right after they leave and he starts breaking down is almost unbearable to watch. I can’t imagine knowing that your past 25 years up until 30 minutes ago were completely free and then the next 50 are going to be completely imprisoned. That’s insane.
@Let Me Catch You Slippin so we can pull out the pitch forks and torches now, right?
11 likes@James Klark Klark should start with a C in all scenarios.
19 likes@Iama Sillygoose
1 like😝
he's not the brightest bulb on the tree... LMAO
8 likesHe could have rebutted with...do you want the short story or the long story? That in return gives him power to appease exactly what they want without him seeming on a level of suspicion given if his response was short or long.
8 likes@Tim Marker no....bang bang shrimp from his place of employment
0 likes@jiien 666 ... the detectives don’t give 2 fuck what drugs you’ve done. They leave that to state troopers and common cops. They’re after people who take lives.
12 likesLol meth this, adderal that
13 likesHahahahah
1 like@ᘺӨᏝᖴ ᘻØOᘉ yeah a lot of people in Florida use that
1 likeRight...
0 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin he knew he was being recorded. If it's one thing I learned from these videos, it's how to spot fake crying.
10 likesThen again..you could be right.. . Dumb ass must've walked by the security camera system at work many times, sooooo.....
@Arcade-Eyes police interrogation is a finely tuned craft that is so highly complex that the average criminal has no clue that he's giving himself away with every word he utters.
14 likesPro gamer move.
0 likes“crimes”
0 likes😵😵😵😵
0 likesIf he did take Adderall like he says he did then this reaction is completely normal
2 likesFor real lol.....the detective almost had to get more paper
8 likesI want a lawyer. That’s it.
11 likesNever ever ever talk to the police about anything
7 likesThat's what tripped me out. When you're so willing to quickly confess to SO many crimes, I'm automatically thinking there must be something much worse that you aren't confessing to.
12 likesLol
0 likesHe talks about her in past tense.
13 likesHoly fuck i’m dead 😂😂
1 like@Kitten Korleone the minute you start talking, you tell on yourself.
2 likes@W this! NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE EVEN IF YOU ARE INNOCENT!
6 likes@Mary is Sound I used to love those old Columbo shows because within the first 10 minutes he's already onto whose done it by simply looking at who has motive and in many cases its the one whose reaction to the event or the questioning is way "off" or "inappropriate".
4 likesThis blabbermouth might as well be wearing a shirt saying "I did it"!
@Tone im getting some today that shit is so good
0 likesThis dude IS the dude that Tom Segura talks about in his "First 48" bit. Lol!
2 likes"Well, so-n'-so says you were wearing a blue shirt!"
"Yeah... I shot that guy 5 times..."
Dude, lie. Lie for longer.... A lot of people have blue shirts, man!"
He gave a murder storytime
1 likeAdderall makes you feel confident but if he thought about it for a sec, he could've confidently responded that he didn't do shit to her.
1 likeI mean he's a POS and deserved to be imprisoned, but he definitely could've gotten away with it if he thought it through.
@supra angel Oh hell naw!!!! 💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@Michaela Shoemaker I think that's why he wouldn't cooperate. "Fuckers, I was supposed to get a coke AND a butterfinger, just give me a coke ok. Still don't know what you're talking about." 😂😂😂
2 likes@Michaela Shoemaker Thanks
0 likes@supra angel -absolutely!
0 likesBc as we know could be a CEO for coke "right now."
ᘺӨᏝᖴ ᘻØOᘉ one addy? It's more than that, it's his guilty conscious thinking that he'd be able to talk himself out of the murder he committed. That adderrall would not have lasted that long and his physical motions do not match his supposed non-stop talking caused by the adderall you're trying to claim.
0 likes@H. Jules 😝longer then his sentencing
1 likeThe coke was just a fairytale for this guy lol
0 likes💀💀💀
0 likesLmfao
0 likes💀
0 likes@Michaela Shoemaker 💀 PLEASE
0 likes@Helmi I just watched that video, this afternoon. Lmao
1 like@supra angel wham bam thank you for the coke
2 likes@An Alias wait so he's like.. A serial killer?? Or tgat was a joke?:))
0 likesSeriously he confessed to so much drug use
0 likesNone of them is related to the current one
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likes@Tim Marker plus a bag of potato chips
0 likes“So how do you know Savannah?”
3 likesLee: "Well i did light and hard drugs. I paid for hookers. I dated my coworkers which is against the rules. I drove under influence of both alcohol and drugs, light and hard. I robbed my roomate, stole from my parents and then we met at work"
The sitcom: How Many Felonies Can I Rack Up in 30 mins😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2 likesBest one yet salut ✌️👍
0 likes@Helmi I get that reference!
0 likesAlso like 20 motives for why he'd do it, gotta lay it on thick
0 likesDrugs and and all the metal in fish didn't do his brain any good.
0 likes@Helmi does your demon have an attorney?
1 like@Audri Long LMAO
0 likes@Helmi hahahahaha right ?
0 likes@Audri Long bahaha that was a good one too
0 likes@ᘺӨᏝᖴ ᘻØOᘉ its 100% the adderall. Infact they should give everyone they interogate adderall 😂
0 likesLmfao yeah true probably Bc he wanted it to seem like those are the worse things he’s ever done and act like he’s getting all the skeletons out of his closet. Little did he know he was further incriminating himself
0 likes#winning
0 likes@Helmi dude thats a nice callback
0 likesif Youtube's the problem, istg you could upload your new videos to vimeo or whatever and i'd happily watch $10 worth of ads just to watch your amazing content
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he seems immune to good advice like this and instead insists on using youtube where his videos are censored and removed.
1 likeDetective: How long have you known Savannah?
1 likeLee: According to all known laws of aviation, a bee should not be able to fly. Its wings are too stubby to get its fat little body off the ground. Of course, the bee flies anyway, because bees don't care what people think is impossible.
So sad to see the decay of this channel because of YouTube. I miss these videos
56 likesIt's almost cinematic the way the video cuts off before his confession and then cuts to the aftermath. I think its much more intense to see his reaction and not know exactly what was said.
0 likesJCS is about a million times better than all true crime programs I’ve ever seen
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That's because he let's the evidence, interrogations and all public evidence speak for itself instead of giving a shitty summed up story. He also examines the suspects body language and the way they speak and seems to be very knowledgeable in the forms of interrogation himself. Also he's such a good narrator
90 likesno overbearing music to tell you how to feel, just information straight from the horses mouth
15 likes@Eric Wood my bad i realise that looking back, I'm just pretty stupid sometimes lol
1 like@Eric Wood grammar police. and for what 🗿
3 likesTruth
0 likesThat's a fact.
0 likesAnyone know of other good channels?
2 likes@J VC LPR presents, Matt Orchard,
2 likes@J VC stay awake, gothboi prince
1 like@J VC in human form, Dave's lemonade
1 like@J VC TT crimanological breakdown, beside the dying fire, monsters
1 like@J VC that will keep you busy
1 like@J VC mind of a criminal, explore with us
1 like@J VC criminal psychology, Franklin, that chapter
3 likesHell yeah dude
0 likes@Cryptic I bet the script and narrating are done by different persons.
0 likes@Thr3 month restart Dave's lemonade my favorite! Lol, yaaa!
0 likes@Thr3 month restart I'm checking all thse I haven't heard out! Thanks!
0 likesAlso, when you said Monsters, could that be this is MONSTERS?
Jiles a.k.a this is MONSTERS is awesome!
But he only has like 10 videos If that
1 like@Lintuss ya I belive it is as a narrator is linked in the description
1 like@Over Nacho 310 That's not what a fact is. It's an opinion.
0 likesThat female detective did some of the best interigation I have ever seen... "Just tell us"
2 likesI'm very curious, how come the police wouldn't release the admission of guilt part of the interrogation? Like what was the reasoning behind that decision?
0 likesYou're back!!! I missed your content so, so badly. Please keep going, don't let yt win 🥺
1 likeI think he would have killed regardless of this situation if it happened or not. He fits the narcissistic traits. The chef job he had was easy way for him to prey on young women at his workplace. And he was used to getting what he wanted. When he didn't, he killed her. What a POS. Should be in prison for life.
1 likeThe interrogation time matching up with the time of day was really satisfying.
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Ho dang I just realised that
29 likesI think they do that on purpose
31 likesOh my GOD it's beautiful
16 likesIt’s intentional
12 likesI completely agree and I don’t know why but it does (><)
3 likes**Women is murdered** “oh would you look at the time”
28 likesImagine a ¾-second difference between the two. I think I'd be pissed 😆
8 likesI bet it hits different when you're synced up with the mayhem
1 likeI didn’t even notice that until reading this comment after finishing the video. You’re right it is pretty cool.
1 likeI was mystified! I was like...how?🤔
1 likeImagine waking up next day thinking for 0.5sec it was bad dream
1 like@Ansa Pectoralis but why? Also he got up to go to the bathroom before the interview started and came back 3 minutes later. So unless they anticipated him taking 3 mins to pee, I don't think it was intentional.
0 likes@Slice of Life It was added in post man
0 likes"Probably not the best advertisement for the Bonefish Grill if their head chefs are peeling their scabs off at work." This was just the best freakin' statement that I have ever heard.
0 likes(And just a side note, I have personally had negative experiences at Bonefish Grill - twice. The first time the waiter was just a total @sshole and acted completely irritated by our presence and having to actually do his job. The second time, I slipped on the very, VERY smooth and slippery tile floor at the entrance. It wasn't wet AT ALL. The material was just too damn slick! Not exactly the greatest choice for a very high traffic area. The hostess helped me up and actually said "This happens all the time." Ummmm... THAT'S a problem! A major one! "This happens ALL THE TIME" ??? This may sound like an outlandish idea but... maybe, I dunno, rip the tiles out and put down a floor material that ISN'T an ice rink? If they haven't already been sued (multiple times), I absolutely guarantee they will be.)
I wondered what his sentencing was and im kinda dissapointed ''Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors in February and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.''
0 likes“Last time you get to wear a chefs coat” nah man im sure the prisons need experienced chefs. You got a lifetime contract!
4 likesAnybody else always feel like they’d confess to killing JFK if ever interrogated....
2 likesBut then you saw Lee’s explanation on how he knows Savannah and you’re like HAHAH I will actually be fine.
Cause same.
Imagine receiving a text from one of your friends or family that was clearly written by a stranger… chills….
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Chilling because of the poor grammar. And he's a manager.
77 likes@emarythomp Damn you binge watching these too? I see your comments under all these videos
28 likes@Lentin Tarantino Who isn't? That's like eating only one potato chip and putting the bag back.
88 likesI was thinking the same thing. Thats actually horrifying. Especially if the text is extremely out of character
39 likesWait until you're a father...
5 likes@Lentin Tarantino I watched all of them in like 2 days so yeah😂😂😂
6 likesThat was THE MOST CHILLING AND HORRIFYING PART !!!
6 likeslol =)
2 likesemarythomp: I watched all of them in like 2 days
IntheCiTY: That was THE MOST CHILLING AND HORRIFYING PART !!!
me: damn. what pretending to look crazy looks like
It would almost be comical if the circumstances weren't so tragic. This dummy didn't even bother to try imitating her style.
9 likes@Lentin Tarantino Hahaha 😂 I just started too! Started with faking crazy (obviously 😂) and only been a couple days and this is probably my 10th vid or so. Any specific one anyone recommend?😁😁😁
2 likesIt gave me chills just reading it.
3 likesYeah, for real. That's a complete nightmare.
3 likesWould be absolutely awful and such a helpless feeling!
4 likesThat is the reason I don't have friends or family.
4 likesThat happened with Aniah Blanchard too
0 likesLike something out of a horror movie.
2 likesIf I was a parent, it would take me at least a minute to realize something isn’t right. That run on sentence got me winded.
1 likeI know all my family friend
0 likesMassage look like
It’s a credit to her family that they knew something was not right straight up. So terribly sad for them that their worst fears were realised. And that the perpetrator was this sorry sack of shit.
0 likes18:10 I disagree with it having no importance, since the further he gets him into the disproven alibi the less wiggle room he has later and the more he can be shown to be a liar to the jury
0 likesI disagree with JCS on just one point -- watching him squirm WAS easy...in fact enjoyable
7 likesYou always think of the perfect thing to say, after the conversation is over
0 likesThose detectives were lucky - they got him to confess because he was not the sharpest tool in the shed. Certainly not due to any skillful interrogation tactics.
7 likesJudging by the fact that he used his own car, didn’t know that there were cameras on the parking lot, and came there high on adderall, it’s evident that he studied at the “Chris Watts School for hopelessly dumb murderers”.
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Was it even a planned murder though?
22 likesA lot of murderers are indeed dumb, impulse controll is closly related to IQ.
39 likes@Shíshǒu INTP-A he really could've gotten himself a lighter sentence if he admitted before the investigation started and said it was self defense, also not burning the body would've helped the self defense claim. Same I don't think he planned the murder but I wonder why he wanted her in the car in the first place.
16 likes@Simi Probably didn't plan to kill her and just wanted to talk. If I had to guess, I'd say he probably got emotional and lost his ability to think clearly and logically in anger? fear of consequences? His last remarks after confessing seem to suggest that he loved her and unfortunately it is not uncommon for obsessed man to end up hurting their partners.
23 likesGold star Adolfo!
1 like@keremcantarhan Plus heightened emotions because of whatever he was on. The fact they fought for good amount of time and she tries opening the door to exit three times, idk.
13 likesthe aderall would have helped tho
3 likes@Elliott i googled wtf is aderall
3 likesand had a little choke. whaaa? legal amphetamine?
idk. I don't wanna meet a selfish agressive psycho on stimulators
It definitely seemed premeditated given the luring into the car, the texts, the home made firepit and the dumping of the body by the lake. These aren't things one goes through if they accidentally commit a murder. Even the texts alone required him to one come up with a story of what to say and then use the poor girls fingers or face to unlock the phone assuming he didn't know the pin. There's no way something like that just happened out of nowhere.
3 likesSmart criminals don't get caught which is why most documentaries like these the story is of someone who slipped up somewhere and there's evidence tying them to the murder/s. Given he literally lured her into his car you can only assume he didn't know about the CCTV which is easy to do, cameras are everywhere. But he was either going to kill her in the car there and then or take her somewhere else to do it and things escalated. Either way wasn't very well planned out.
@Sam Trott it only really works if you are a professional criminal, if you need to murder someone that you know, because you have ties to the person it's way easier to get caught
0 likesFun fact human meat taste like horse meat
0 likesAdderall doesn’t get you high unless you take a lot. It probably helped him.
0 likes@Shíshǒu INTP-A That!
2 likesIf you kill someone and really didn't mean it and did it on accident, call an ambulance and hand yourself in. Don't speak to the cops before you speak to your lawyer, but show regret and be cooperative.
That's how you get a 20 year sentence which, although still regrettable, is certainly much better than life in prison, especially if you're young, since in that case it's really possible you might turn your life around.
@Edda233 I mean I think it's more a case of stress, panic and fear than of IQ
0 likes@The Enigma Im referring to the decision to murder in the first place, not the ability to cover up afterwards.
0 likesIts no accident that the kind of person who cant resist an impulse to kill is also often not great at covering up their deed afterwards.
@Edda233 I'm talking about the "decision to kill"
0 likesThe impulse control in that situation isn't just because they have low IQ or whatever it's more linked to the effect the circumstance has on them it's often more complex than them just being stupid
@The Enigma Its really funny how if you add the word 'just' to any statement then it becomes false.
0 likesIf your going to play that game then I could as easily pretend that your saying its just circumstances and nothing else and then repeat your argument back to you.
@Edda233 listen, this ain't a subject where I'm gonna have a back and forth petty arguement where you try to pick apart the structure of what i say and i go "BuT aCtUaLlY" and it spirals into spelling mistakes and grammar problems. I used the word "just" to emphasize a point, do you want a prize for noticing that or do you want to actually take the argument seriously (which really should be the case with this subject) and stop acting like someone from r/iamverysmart who claims to be the master of a subject but then "just" goes around nit-picking anyone that opposes them for lack of a better argument?
0 likes@The Enigma What you said hinges on changing my general statment that IQ and impulse control are related, and corelate with criminality, which is true, into me saying that these are the only factors involved.
0 likesDon't misrepresent peoples statements.
@Edda233 firstly you're original statement was noting of the same factual origin, your original statement was "a lot of murderers are indeed dumb. IQ is closely linked to impulse control" nothing about psychology or how any of this links to criminal behaviour. All I said regarding that statement was that it was less about IQ and more about the conditions.
0 likesSecondly I am not misrepresenting a statement when you're statement is literally "a lot of murderers are indeed dumb. IQ is closely linked to impulse control". If it was about more than IQ you could have at least slightly expanded and me using the word "just" has nothing to do with "misrepresenting your statement" when you're statement is just refering to IQ. It's not a personal attack, I'm not bending your words, I literally just use the word "just"
@The Enigma The word just transforms what I said completely, changing it from a generalization to an absolute. Everything after that was a debunking of an absolute that you invented. You are completely bending my words in an utterly disingenuous fashion, and your dithering about how I'm looking to far into it is nothing but a smokescreen.
0 likesIf this wasn't the case then you would switch to addressing my original statment, which you haven't.
@Edda233I've addressed your original statement and as I said before I cba with a petty back and forth over how you interpret my speech and grammar, if there's one absolute it's that this is absolutely useless so I'm just gonna end this bs here because you'll never actually care to acknowledge any of my relevant points, instead, you try to frame this as me trying to warp your own.
0 likesI don't think he planned to do it, was a spontaneous thing.
1 like@i Ritefita adderall is pretty commonly prescribed to individuals with adhd. i know it’s made a significant positive impact in my life
2 likes😂
0 likesHahaaaaa
0 likes@Nimrod Junction snorting adderall gets you hyped. He may have said he “took” one, to explain any trace in his system, but abusers snort it for the quick acting high.
2 likes@Shíshǒu INTP-A who are you hitting on the back hard enough that it would be damaging if you were hitting a woman??
1 like@Justin Hopper an IQ in the low 80s would make him nearly mentally “impaired”. Doubt that is an accurate prediction for someone who committed 49 murders over 2 decades
0 likesHe’s not a dumb murderer. He didn’t study how to murder. He didn’t plan on killing this girl.
1 like@Watermelon Man
2 likesIt’s not a prediction. It seems to be fact. Google his iq. Also watch an interview of him talking. Gary Ridgeway. And then get back to me on that.
@Elliott it likely wouldn't have helped him here since lying requires a level of creativity which Adderall can severely hinder and instead make you overly focus on minute details, at least in people who are taking it who do not have ADHD. It's probably why he gave such a long response with so much irrelevant info.
1 like@Quintus fair enough, but it would also allow him to more quickly analyze each situation individually. He would have a greater ability to "go down the rabbit hole" for one idea and see it through before trying another.
0 likesYessss yessssss
0 likesTeacher: now repeat after me, there are cameras everywhere
0 likesStudents: cheeeeeeseeeeeeeee
7:25 is the moment it sets in. When the lead investigator walks in, no big/stifled reaction. When the handcuffs rattle on the door handle, he looks up at them, and for a moment he is frozen in place.
1 like"Probably not the best advertisement for the Bonefish Grill if their head chefs are peeling their scabs at work..." LMAO I wasn't expecting a jab from JCS
5 likesI never saw this video. I just started watching it now, and as soon as he started talking, i knew he was lying.
0 likesIm no l.e.o. and im not a genious or am i perfect, but i believe that he lied from the beginning of his bullcrap story.
I also agree that when people who are guilty they will talk forever, to try to get someones approval, and they will talk forever to hopefully say something that they can build on. And to hopefully convince someone to believe their baloney stories and lies.
This guy cant remember the lies he told, coz when similar questions are asked, his answers differ from the truth and from what he had answered before.
Imagine letting a glorified Applebee's job completely derail your whole life.
1 likeDetective: “so how long have you known Savanna?”
3549 likesLee: “It all started when Savanna’s mother and father were born”
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Lmao he’s literally the worst at lying
63 likesThat women's voice is like the drunk girl who has been cut off.
13 likes“ i was born a couple months later, I also didn’t know her for 18+ years, but basically I met her at work she started working after me a couple months after to be exact, we started secretly dating which is against store policy but we’re still good friends and know we’re here”
8 likesHahahahaahha fuuuck
2 likes😭😭😂😂
2 likesA long long time ago...
1 likeDamn, over a year later and people are still creepin' the comments lollll
2 likesT'imestam"p
1 likeIt all started at the big bang.
2 likesHe has so many details, he must be telling the truth!
1 like😂
1 likeI hope people understand that the testimony about the victim’s drug use by this man was all made up. She was not a drug abuser.
1 likeThey should put this lady in every interrogation… her voice alone will make people confess just to get away from her
0 likesI love your channel. If you could do a video on the interrogation of George Zimmerman that’d be greatly appreciated
0 likesdude more videos, me and my gf bonded over true crime and both brought you up
1 likejust love your style
Detective: "How long have you known Savannah?"
4846 likesLee: "It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking 13..."
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16 likes"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times"
128 likesOH MY GOSH THATS 1984 OMG
34 likes@almer meow One of the greatest novels of all time ;)
24 likes@Tucker Goodin im literally reading it rn..
11 likestwas the night before christmas and all through the house...
13 likesPFHAHAHA NO NOT THAT BOOK AGAIN SCHOOL FORCED ME TO READ IT TOO MANY TIMES
3 likes"If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know is where I was born, and what my lousy childhood was like, and how my parents were occupied and all before they had me, and all that David Copperfield kind of crap, but I don't feel like going into it, if you want to know the truth."
12 likesBe answered like a lonely 80 years old
0 likes@fckinvandoos Hey, don't diss 1984, it's a great book
7 likes“According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly...”
7 likes🤣⚰️
0 likesliterally 1984
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesYay book nerds!
2 likes@Dingis Khan "It was a dark and stormy night..."
1 likeIt all started when my father ejaculated in what I believe is my mother……then I was born and open my eyes for the first time I know because I remember 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likeI always forget about military time until it's mentioned, I forgot that a clock striking 13 actually happens lmfao. Now a clock striking 25 on the other hand...
1 like@The Great Potato I think that 1984 meant it in a figurative way. It was written in 1944, so clocks were basically all analog, and generally analog clocks only go to 12
2 likesHAHAHAHA
0 likesIt was a dark and stormy night.
0 likes"it was a warm summer evening in ancient Greece..." 😂
0 likes@The Great Potato Shit, striking 24 instead of 00 would be weird enough.
0 likes@K Man I hadn't thought about that lmfao
1 like😂😂
0 likes@almer meow Hey, man. You guys are cool. 😎
0 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Morribyte 😆 now that's funny.
0 likesThis interrogation started in 1984, its that long!
0 likes"Wore dark blue pants and felt kinda hungry"
0 likes@faust ༄ different book, sorry.
0 likesYou gotta be a different kind of stupid to murder a girl where you both work where everyone knows you two are banging. Then thought there were no cameras and then admit to it all...The cops did great getting the confession but I couldn't believe he confessed knowing they couldn't prove he killed her. Mad the confession wasn't released.
1 likeDetective: “How long have you known Savannah?”
19 likesLee: “Well, it all started when I was a young lad…”
EDIT: Does anybody know where Lee is now? Kind of curious on what happened to him.
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I read in another comment that he received 40 yrs in prison for second degree murder. Dont know where he is tho
3 likes@monaward Damn I’m kinda surprised he didn’t get life since it was such a brutal and graphic homicide
1 like@Caroline Cooke me too. Seems like they reduced his sentence in exchange for pleading guilty. May Savannah RIP🙏🏻
2 likes@Caroline Cooke same
1 likeI keep having this problem with JCS videos where it doesn't connect in my brain that the people being interrogated actually did something lol.
1 likeThe joy I get from watching these people breakdown, not so tough now are you?
0 likesThis guy’s sister is prison for murdering a woman in 2016 outside of a motel... and caught on camera. What a family.
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Can you imagine their family reunions? ☠️
261 likesThose poor parents
159 likes@MoD Yeah, in prison.
153 likes@Wolf Fam they’re probably part of the reason they ended up that way... the guy mentioned his parents took hard drugs
362 likesAnd the camera ended up recording the crimes both the times... like brother like sister..
75 likes@Rhituparna Chakraborty really?. What a dunce.
10 likesreally?
1 like@Abby Normal yeah her name is Amber Camarillo and it happened in 2016.
15 likes@gigglyme2001 yikes!
1 likein her sisters defense, the victim had it coming.
3 likesI seen that also - crazy. Definitely points to the way they were raised and company they kept.
3 likesomg😭
1 likeHe did say his mom was addicted to meth. Doesn’t sound like he came from a healthy background and it shows
20 likes@Mr. panch wetshaving uhh what makes u say that?
3 likesWow!!! Insane
0 likeswow thats fucked up
1 like@Vadim Grishchuk plenty of people have drug addict parents without growing up to commit homicide lmao
23 likesCaught in 4k
0 likesPlease tell me she didn’t do it to keep her minimum wage job too. 😂😂😂
5 likes@Vadim Grishchuk it's not a coincidence
0 likesParents addicted to drugs usually can't encourage their kids to do good things and live to their potential whether it's sports or academics.
3 likes@Bean sprout 🌱💞 What is even the point of this reply? People with troubled childhoods will most likely struggle with it in the aftermath. The struggles can manifest in different ways.
9 likes@Mr Greenguy having a troubled childhood his not a valid reason to murder someone
6 likes@Bean sprout 🌱💞 Obviously not, but it is a valid explanation.
12 likes@Mr Greenguy what about the people they killed? Their experiences didnt matter? Were the experiences of their murderers more important and valid than their right to continue living?
0 likes@Bean sprout 🌱💞 I don't understand how you could have gotten that from anything I've said. All I'm saying is that it's important to look at the circumstances that lead people to commit such crimes so that we can prevent them in the future. But it seems like you're incapable of understanding this for whatever reason.
21 likesWelcome to Florida
4 likesBut eugenics was sooooooo evil....
0 likes@Mr. panch wetshaving why? 😮
0 likesJesus what a family.
0 likes@Wolf Fam yea cuz their parents are totally different. That's how it works. Sarcasm
0 likes@Courtney Carnevale the fact that no one has answered weirds me out lol
2 likesThey love the spot light😂
0 likesThat's probably why he said "it wasn't supposed to be you." Stating that he thought he was the one person in his family that would get out of crime and live a normal life.
4 likesObviously he was wrong but still, pretty sad story for everyone involved.
Is there a JCS video for the sister? that's so crazy
3 likesCan you provide me that link of this?
0 likesWow
0 likes@Mr Greenguy yeah seeking help for the problems
0 likes@Wolf Fam p
0 likesTalk about All in the Family.
0 likesRough family photo album
0 likes...'cause if u mess w me u messing w my family...
0 likes@Wolf Fam no. They played a major role in them being criminals.
0 likesYou know what they say , the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree!
0 likes@Mc Carthy It's because of the drugs. Drugs -> prison -> drugs -> murder cycle.
1 likeWow, what’s her name? I want to look her up!
0 likes@Molly Cote her name is Amber Camarillo
0 likes@gigglyme2001 thank you so much!
0 likesWell he said his mom was hooked on meth when he was younger, so I imagine that has a pretty big impact.
0 likesHate to know their childhood home environment
0 likesThe amount of acting interrogators have to do is incredible.
1 likeThis channel is fascinating but far too informitive for killers or those planning to kill.
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I was thinking the same thing
6 likesMy main takeaway from these videos is to plead the fifth and call a lawyer lol
1 likeHonestly there was next to zero hard evidence, the confession is the only thing that got him in prison.
1 likeThe only thing I want to point out is that a 4'2" kid with a loaded gun is more dangerous than a 6'5" adult with massive arms.
2 likesNot saying this lady had a gun, just pointing out that weapons can easily equalize or switch the power dynamics. This guy was probably not acting in self defense, but there are men who do, whom experience this exact problem: "how could you be scared of him/her? He/she's like half your weight and height."
Detectives: "PLEASE!"
6973 likesNarrator: "This is an interrogation technique called 'begging.'"
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lol
54 likes😂😂😂😂 I read it in the voice
174 likes@Dr. House Me too 🙈🤣
19 likes@Dr. House dude same🤣
13 likesYou got me there tho 😂😂
9 likesI would expect no less from someone wearing a bow tie
30 likesyou gotta do watchu gotta do
12 likes😂😂
2 likesI laughed so hard:))
3 likes😂😂😂
0 likesLOL
0 likesYeah that dudes opinions are so annoying
4 likesWhatever it takes. If I’d thought it’d work I would too.
9 likesif i were a detective i'd never beg a criminal like that lmao
10 likeslol, I read it in his voice
2 likesLol
0 likesThe pleases made me visibly upset. Like girl don’t be polite. Please.
19 likes@True I wasn’t the biggest fan of her begging for a confession but hey it worked at the end of the day
33 likesDude I was thinking the same thing and was like not posting it, the internet will never let me be if I do
0 likesLOLLLLLL
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesHahaha quality
0 likesThis comment made my day
1 likeNarrator: "This is known as the desperate bad acting technique. The female detective pairs this tactic with overly loud speaking and way too much emotional pressure. This is a very common thing among detectives with little to no acting skills mixed with terrible pacing. This is also known as the "transparent person tactic", lowering one's volume may be required on this part of the video."
16 likes:
3 likesLmao😂😂
0 likesHey I'm trying be serious here 😆😆😆
0 likesShe literally repeated the phrase "I'm begging you..." to him.
1 likeI know this is a very serious situation.. but imagine if when she was begging he said “I ain’t no simp”😑😂😂😂
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0 likesLMAO
0 likesThis comment 👌 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesShould have tried it in spanish, "Por Favor! ". Prolly would have worked
0 likesThanks for the laugh (especially regarding the grim topic.)
0 likesYou forgot "click"
1 like@Dr. House 100th like 👍
0 likesLol I was the 4,400 liker
1 likeHAAAAAAaAaAaAaAa
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesAnd begging worked!
2 likes@CGI - Thomas Griffin lol, i thought that too
0 likesBrilliant comment made me laugh thanks
1 likeShe was awful
0 likesHahaha
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0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesC grade acting too on her part lol
0 likesLool she was pretty much crying for him to confess! 😩😂
0 likes@Think4ward she was successful with interrogation. Because at the end of it he started realizing the gravity of the situation. And confessed. So she must not have been that terrible now could she?
2 likesI don't want to mock either of the interrogators, but that sounded like such a weak method to do it. Did they figure out he was especially susceptible to it, or was it just some desperate whiny longshot?
4 likes@WriteorDie she played emotional cop likely because they probably knew he was a natural with the ladies. They probably figured that one might get through to him, to make him feel guilty enough to confess about what he did. . If he could see the gravity of what he did, then he might break and confess. Which is what happened. I believe it's why they chose her to reveal the info and her to try to convince him to confess.
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0 likesLMFAO
0 likes😂😂
0 likesWhy won't they release the confession? I wonder if he muttered something like "should I be talking to an attorney?" before admitting what happened, and they don't want that video getting out... I haven't ever seen a confession be cut off like this...
2 likesEDIT: Ahh - the whole video was released. If you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU
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Thanks for link
1 likeThe male cops bowtie makes him seem so friendly. I wonder if that is intentional-. Personally, there is a big difference talking to a person with a bowtie rather than a traditional tie.
8 likesNarrator: "He was known for his charm and charisma amongst his colleagues."
8 likesBy Florida standards. Not true reality standards.
If you take anything away from watching these presentations it should be, what I learned from 'Lt. Columbo'. He tells the suspect to put on the heat.
0 likes"You see, murderer's usually only kill, once, to start, and they have to get it ALL 100% right. Where as a Detective oh gosh I probably see several hundred homicides a year, And I've been a cop for 30 years now."
JCS: These are so interesting to watch. Thank you for taking the time to put them together and put them out on your channel. I'm an old geezer wintering in florida alone with a cat. These are very entertaining during a season when most people have a family or someone to spend time with. Thanks again.
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Hey chap - same story here, except I’m on the east coast of England. So, in solidarity from over the sea: you have a grand old time, ok mate? Take care of yourself, and I hope you have a superb winter.
232 likeshow many cats u have sir?
58 likesmerry christmas sir!
59 likesDon't start liking them too much. He only puts out two per year.
46 likesYou do have a family, old bud. It's your kitty cat :]
48 likes@White Horse so true. That cat loves him, and I hope both have a very nice Christmas together
29 likesmerry christmas to you and your cat ! :-)
20 likesMan, you're never alone with a cat. Try talking to it.
17 likesmerry christmas sir!
12 likes@iBot that's more than we deserve
7 likesMerry Christmas, folks. You can be alone in a house full of people, too. You'll be fine Brother, as long as you keep your spirits up. The World is a terrible place and people are awful anyway, so consider yourself lucky! Take care
20 likes@nobody's favourite I disagree
4 likes@iBot you have every right to do so. I prefer quality over quantity.
11 likes@nobody's favourite I expect both.
1 like@iBot bless your heart
10 likes@nobody's favourite Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you 🎄🎆
8 likesim in florida as well!
3 likes@nobody's favourite I agree 100%
3 likesHey there I am a Gramma in Canada and spent most of Christmas Holidays with a goldfish and True Crime Interrogation videos and Netflix...so you have it way better than me...keep your spirits up my friend xxoo
15 likesAw I'm watching this with my cat on my lap right now :) What's your cat called?
1 likehey man, merry christmas to u and the cat! remember ur loved !
0 likesIt's interesting regardless
0 likesI’m a lonely international student watching it during the new year period. Happy new year 🥳
3 likes@Alisha Limbu What do you want to be? If it were me, i would say: "An American!" I was born in Canada, but my dad and mother moved to the USA when i was a little quiff. 2. I love the United States. I served in Vietnam as a combat Marine. God watched over me. Let me come home to Maine, saw me through college and gave me the means to buy a 2nd home in South Florida. Now I am a big fat slob, but I still walk and love to watch these intriguing videos. The opossum chew the spark plug wires under the hood of my Kia Soul. I put down some moth balls and changed the wires. I feed the community cats and the opossum come to get what is left behind. Happy New Year to you too. Money is not the only thing. It helps, but money management is more important. Don't get swamped in debt. Then the system owns you.
2 likesSending some love mr beaver.
0 likes@BillyLemonZest Thanks Billy! Do you think it's a mistake that I'm in love with a 43 year old inmate who might get out on parole this year? I'm 73. I want to marry her and have never met her. We write letters the old fashion way. I send her money. She has never asked. She really is beautiful. She tells me that she loves me.
2 likes@BOCA BEC not sure my friend. Love is as dangerous as life. It's an instinct that is built in, but you have more information than I do. Take what you know and make the best choice you can. And don't be discouraged if you're wrong. Most of us are, most of the time. But no matter what, know that a lot of people are trying hard. Just like us
1 like@BillyLemonZest Thank you for not passing judgement on her and I. I have not even told my own brother because I don't need to hear the lectures. I'm old enough to be making my own decisions. I'm not afraid of making a commitment to my prisoner friend. I can't send her a ring, but have been shopping at Tiffany's in West Palm Beach. It will be a small diamond, but it will be from Tiffany's and my heart will be into it.
2 likesHey, I'm 37 so I'm decrepit according to the Internet lol. Looks like you have a whole lil family right here to be with! You're never alone when you have people who care about you!!! 💗💗💗🫂🫂🫂
3 likes@Mama Mangle Thank you Mama! I'm all for a group prayer. To whatever God you do or don't believe in. Just that we all can get along and be kind to one another. I fall of the path once in awhile and I'm going to try staying true to what the map of life has been trying to teach me.
1 likeHave a good one sir!
0 likesWinter...? In Florida...? 🤨
0 likesSame here but I'm in the south West of Scotland. Have yourself a really good year ahead sir
0 likeshope you and your cat are okay!! ❤
1 like@Easha Ahmed We are both doing fine thank you. I have been having a bout of depression but fighting through that. Blue has got fleas but it is too early to give her the monthly treatment. I feed three "community" cats outside. One, a small black tuxedo i call Felix has after 3 years decided to be a lap cat. The 1st night he did that while I sat in a canvas camp chair it started raining. I sat there and we both got wet because I did not want to disturb him. The rain was just a passing warm shower, thankfully. His sister, Spotz wanted to come up, but I only have one lap. I'll fix her up a blanket beside my chair.
2 likesmy wife and kid went away for a few months. all alone in NY too!
0 likesWhen my dad passed away my mom told me over the phone while I was sitting on the couch. After I hung up I started balling my eyes out. My sweet kitty knew I was upset and gingerly hopped up on my lap and just lovingly sat there. As I started petting her my heartbreak subsided a bit and I was able to collect my thoughts. Afterwards my wife mentioned the change in my emotions as I started petting my furry buddy. These little creatures show love in such genuine ways. You are not alone my friend. Your kitty is your best friend 😊😊
1 likeOld geezette, checking in from Baja Sur Mexico, cheers!
1 like@Random Female I hope you have a cat. There are plenty that need a nice home.
0 likesHey you are at least someone to your cat, old man.
0 likes@Madam Lt And a beautiful cat she is! Just knowing she is nearby gives me a good feeling.
0 likesDude respectfully you are living the life.. I hope you are well sir and enjoying your solitude.
0 likesHave yr cat watch them too.
0 likes@Puddlebutt and I Oh she does Aaron. Then I'll go out and feed the community cats. Felix, Spotz and Thomas. I come back in side and my cat has her nose out of joint. She is so possessive. How soon they forget that I brought her in from the same hedge-row. She had a bout two weeks of life left in her. I was having a bout of depression. I helped her and she helped me.
0 likesAye dad love ya stay safe down there and send Cleveland some warm weather!
1 likehope you have a good day man
0 likes@Flysai Other than a broken spine, I'm doing OK. Actually, it just feels that way with ruptured discs. It is always good to sit down. I have had a pretty darn good run and am not going to quit anytime soon. I need to push myself harder to start eating healthier. I love Micky D's. In fact I could eat a large fries sprinkled with salt right this second. But I'm not going to.
0 likesOld Iowa Crazy Cat Lady here. Sounds like I'm in with good company. 😺
0 likesUnexpectedly wholesome thread here. Nice to see.
0 likesno one asked
0 likes@Esormit WE FOUND THE TROLL! I KNEW U WERE HIDING SOMEWHERE. PLEASE SINCERELY WHOLE HEARTLY GO RUN AND PLAY IN TRAFFIC FOR ME. I WISH YOU THE WORSE. 🙏🏿😍
2 likes@Steve Harrison Same here. South coast of England. With a cat. Only it’s so cold. Wish I were sunbathing in Florida.
1 like@BOCA BEC So would I, if you sent me money.
0 likesI hope you’re not lonely. I’d bring you some food if we were neighbors ❤️
0 likes@Sarah Thank you. I have a pen pal. She is in prison. It's nice to get a letter the old fashion way. She's 44 and really beautiful. I have never met her in person. My cat Blue is flying on the plane with me on my birthday, 4/19. I live alone in NH, too. I keep busy and pretty much keep to myself. I just started a low carb diet. That sucks. But, I need to take care of my heart and body. Going for a haircut next week. My hair is silvery white. And she is going in to get her nails trimmed.
0 likesYou are loved old geezer 🖤🖤 I hope nothing but happiness and good health come your way !! 🤙🏼 cheers
0 likes@Steve Harrison I hope you are also well and I hope nothing but happiness and good health comes your way , cheers mate
1 like@michael Hubbard Thanks Mike! I'm saddling up to head north in a few days. Blue is going in to get a nail trim on Thursday. My happiness is always better when I get a letter from my GF who is an inmate in a state prison in Md. She is really beautiful and I bought her a diamond ring at Tiffany's on 02-22-2022. I'll be able to surprise her once she gets out. She's been in for 22 years already. She's 44. I'll be 74 on the 19th. I'm trying to shed some excess weight too. I don't want her to run the other way.
0 likes@michael Hubbard you too, mate!
0 likesDetective: "How long have you known Savannah?"
2 likesLee: "Some years ago—never mind how long precisely—having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation..."
Cop: "How long have you known her?"
0 likesHim: "I have a girfriend, we hung out. We have the same backgrounds and she does a lot of drugs. I used them with her. Not the same drugs, but I did them. I saw her a month ago, she gained weight. Guess she did a ton of drugs and missed work because of it. She looks good....."
I don't know why but the phrase "she had a 5:30 shift at the bonefish grill" is hilarious to me.
2 likesIt’s disgusting to watch him cry. The first words out of his mouth are “you’re going to jail”. He’s not crying for the life he took, he’s crying because he got caught.
0 likesNew tactic: Good cop, Sad cop
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Hahahahaha🤣😂
314 likeslord that's funny XD
207 likesThat was really funny 🤣🤣
154 likesFunny
34 likesI see you are a man of culture as well....
75 likesusing her femininity to get him vulnerable
451 likesI was thinking the same lol. Interesting approach in an interview, but it worked!
467 likesGirl really made this interview less stressful... Cant take a female serious 😂😂
159 likes@Shaunthesheep 23 a
22 likesGolden comment
14 likesGood cop, begging cop
173 likesHey, it worked
48 likeslmao she didn't even do anything she legit just kept repeating the same shit she was saying
119 likes@Mia Smith 🤣
1 like@Shaunthesheep 23 it's called emotional manipulation. she's using the pathos rhetoric device of persuasion.
465 likesU fine
4 likesBad cop probably appeared on the unreleased footage.
41 likeslol
1 likeGood cop, very obnoxious cop.
53 likesI'm still waiting for her to stop playing with phone
41 likesemotional honey trap
19 likesLmaooooo
3 likes@Shaunthesheep 23 "can't take a female serious" oh boy here comes a MGTOW member
311 likeshahaha underrated
6 likes@ARMYALEX You're not wrong, but it honestly was horrible execution.
25 likesThat acting was cringeworthy. Over the top and poorly executed.
77 likesGood cop, loud cop.
16 likesYou win 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
3 likesAwwww lol
1 like@Shaunthesheep 23 "Dylan" is the male version of Karen
43 likes@Orb How does that make any sense?
5 likes@Tom Staunton male officer used his masculinity.
4 likes@Strikhedonia :3 yes, they both are pretty good cops, we need some of these in Spain, police in Spain sucks, we are a corrupt country to the bone.
9 likes@Waりく and the lady cop her femininity. Imo she stole the show. At first I thought she would ruin everything cuz she was so annoying.
109 likesBut i think they saw how he smashed a lot of girls so they used the attractive, emotional woman against him (note also how she was the one who revealed the truth to him). It was like she was catching him cheating or something. It was masterful.
They saw emotional, dramatic women as his weakness, easily manipulated by tears on a pretty face, mans a simp. And a murderer.
bad cop, rad cop
11 likesLol
1 likeIt was so cringe but somehow this lee caves in
9 likesLmao for real
2 likesIkr. She's like a character from Criminal Minds. 😂
6 likesI'd make a great sad cop.
6 likesGood cop, begging cop
3 likesThat was like a text book tactic them cops use. Wasn't expecting it
2 likesNew cop, Rookie Cop
0 likes😂
1 likeHahha. Yes I was wondering what's the tactic. No bad cop good cop. Crying cop and cop with bow tie
4 likesSounds like the start of a poem , good cop, sad cop, mad cop,bad cop
5 likesShe didn’t need to do much acting on the job seeing that she clearly was channeling her true inner emotions, it was cringing to watch because you don’t usually expect that from a professional in law enforcement and it seemed to be a little off script being that the other cop seemed to be a little less assertive with his follow ups
22 likesI laughed harder than I should have
1 like@Strikhedonia :3 Nah... she lost it
1 likeWhy does everyone find it so funny? It clearly worked
22 likesi've been looking for this comment!
2 likesLmao
1 like@avithemostill couldn’t be said better 👏🏽
0 likes@Elle A also liking ur own comment when no one else will is... yikes
6 likes@salma the steam engine You've responded 3 times to me now... and you are going with "ai don't care." 🤣 You care so very much. I await you next cry for help with great eagerness.
3 likes@Elle A ...what? man ur weird. um bye.
6 likesshe was faking it hard, only cared about her carrier the entire time.
1 likebet biski duoda realisation ant kiek DiCaprio kova Revenant'e buvo BS
0 likesLmaooooo
1 likeAs I was reading this comment, the other women started crying
0 likesBest comment on the thread.
0 likes34:30 slow it down to 0.25x
0 likesMore like annoying
1 likemakes me wonder if having a female detective play this role was on purpose...
2 likesJa gotta say this was oddly annoying...
0 likesYes...she was very shrill at some points...i wonder how her partner can listen to that...
5 likesFrom what I can sense, she’s acting as if she’s emotional and stressed so her emotions are supposed to make him feel guilty and pressurised into feeling apologetic or stressed out to the point that he confesses
15 likesOmg you made me laugh out loud
1 likeROFL this is great, too accurate 😹😹😹
1 likewhat a good actor. its damn hard to just wail like that but she is an interrogator, mustve gotten there somehow right?
0 likeswant to comment the same
0 likesThat got me 😂
0 likesOkay, well done, lady xD
1 likeNone of these people know the word lawyer
1 like🤣🤣🤣💀💀
1 likeGood cop, emotional cop even xD
2 likesYeah that was surprising and hilarious
1 likeHAHA!
2 likesI dunno why I love that so much but it’s good
1 likeshe was annoying
3 likes😂
1 likeI wonder if she was there to sorta affect his confidence. She looked decently attractive and didn't say one word to him, or even acknowledge his existence half the time. It was stated that he was pretty good with the opposite sex.
3 likesPoor woman tho
0 likesThat’s the first time I’ve seen that. Kinda weird.
0 likesI din't like it. It seems that her high emotions have empowered the suspect.
0 likesNever works but sumhow got him.
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesI feel like all that did was take stress off the subject because it put the detective below him
1 likei know personally i’d be so annoyed with the girl detective wailing in my ear that i’d admit to anything. That’d get under my skin so badly
1 like💀💀💀
1 like@Thor Wagner I mean if you’re actually in a situation where you killed someone and a detective tries to appeal to the more human side by showing emotion, maybe you’d feel different
5 likesOr rather Good cop, Emotional cop..
0 likes1 cop 2 cop red cop blue cop
0 likesYou have to see the Netflix show criminals (UK) they use this technique in the first episode. Highly recommend
1 likeShe was like a kid begging for candy. "Pleeeeeease, pleeeeeease"
1 likedon't hate, it worked
0 likes😂😂
0 likesHey it worked 😂
0 likesI think they knew about his mom so they used the woman to remind him of her
1 likeThat's hilarious. She was sad though
0 likesLmaooooo
0 likesAww man wasn't ready for that🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesLol
0 likesSon was really crying in there
0 likesThey shouldn't bring female officers they r way too emotional.
1 like1nce a month their emails come in red color.
0 likes27:08 she never got off your back seat?? Than why don't u go and check she probably is still in his back seat.
0 likesLol
0 likes@Shaunthesheep 23 yikes
0 likesBeg and hope for the best.
0 likes😂 I love it
0 likesAccurate 😂
1 likeHers was such an amateur level of interrogation. Hardened criminals wouldn't fall for sobs and cries.
1 like😭😂😂😂😂
1 likeHahahha. Stupid lil tanya 🤣🤣
0 likesAwesome 😂😂
1 like😂😂😂😂😂😂😂I'm wheezing
1 likeLol 😂😂😂😂 she came across as so unprofessional, sorry, and annoying, but I suppose it worked
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likeslmfaooooooooo
0 likesThe girl cop is soo annoying
1 likeWhiney cop*
0 likesYou’ve won the internet that day😀
1 likeLmfao 😂😂😂😂
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
0 likes😂😂😂 so funny
0 likesI wonder how they know what tactics work best before they walk into the room? I can't imagine this works for every suspect
0 likesI feel like she kinda messed up the interrogation
0 likesNext is pissed off cop, depressed cop
0 likeshaha
0 likesIt was very brilliant tbh
0 likesIt would work on me definitely lol I’d feel so guilty
0 likesLmaoooo
0 likes@Suraya Djamin Z
0 likes@kdsheridan -
0 likesgod the misogyny under this comment is so gross
2 likesLmao
0 likes@may may It’s pretty horrible seeing how when a detective who tries to manipulate emotions is a woman, people for some reason assume that she’s lost control of her emotions and isn’t fit to serve???? People suck.
3 likes😇😭. 👏
0 likesI was like "Oh! That's why they used a female detective!"
0 likesBro... tanya, more like TOMMY
0 likesI audibly laughed...
0 likesI was laughing at her awful acting... Lmao
1 likeYes
0 likesDisco Elysium summary
0 likes”I’m begging u pleeewwzz”
1 likebroo lol
0 likesIt worked
0 likesRude
0 likesGoddamn it man 🤣🤣
0 likesLol! Sad cop was cringy. Seems it worked though.
1 like@Elle A this comment made me feel sick. idk why but this comment just wreaks creepy dude vibes lol.
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes😂
0 likesWahaha nice one .. i think instead of SAD cop.. OVER ACTING COP
0 likesOmg that funny 😂😂😂
0 likes@Cielo McMeekin seriously, lady, get ahold of yourself
0 likesI like the door swinging open with cuffs on it. He quickly grabs his wrists and spikes up his awareness to the situation which in turn makes him more fearful for his freedom.
1 likeAnd even though this comment won't be read by to many. I kinda feel like that's why they want to shut your channel and style down. Because people can examine and learn. And I Mean Bad People but still love how much more I've learned by watching.
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no matter how much you prepare or study you’ll never be prepared for the interrogation room even interrogators who commit a crime fall for the same tricks they used on criminals during there own careers
1 likeAnother great example why you never talk to the police without a lawyer 😎
0 likesIf surveillance cameras didn't live in the 80s, we could solve a lot of unsolved crimes
0 likesNever talk to a detective without a lawyer. Ever.
0 likesDetective: "How do you know Savannah?"
7694 likesLee: "Well, I was born on a rainy Thursday in May, 1990..."
4 hours later...
Lee: "That's how I graduated 4th grade.... Now, when I went into 5th grade.."
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Lmao
97 likesThe whole time the detectives are just screaming GUILTY in their heads..
262 likesAnd that’s how they know when a person is trying to hide something. They give too many details that don’t matter.
133 likesM James oooooooooh myyyy goooood, some ppl wouldn’t shut the f up. I cringed so hard! He talks and talks and talks!
76 likesLolz
3 likesHe was channeling Stephanie Lazarus.
74 likesI doubt he made it to the 5th grade
42 likesHahaha! This comment made my night.
20 likesdefinitely believe him about the adderall.
39 likesWell you're really asking two questions there. The first one takes me back to 1934. Admiral Burn had just reached the pole, only hours ahead of the Three Stooges...I guess he won the argument, but I walked away with the turnips. The following morning I resigned my commission with the coastguard. The next thing I knew there was civil war in Spain...and that's everything which happened in my life right up to the time I got this phone call...
41 likesM James lol..👍🏽😂
0 likes12:48 "I think we should... you know... stop talking"
15 likesYeah, I think so too.
😂😂😂
1 likeAli Dakhaikh then silent when it matters! great work again from this channel again though. Probably one of my favorites nowadays.
7 likesthe detective is like: "OMG!!! WHO. THE HELL. CAAAAAAARES?!"
10 likesM James bro hand to god I wrote my message then seen yours.... I’m kinda creeped out my dude .... we said the same shit ...... wtf!?!??
1 likeemeli anemone
4 likesHe acts like he’s on it right here, look at him wiping off his sweaty hands
Could also be the fact he knows he murdered a person and is suspected though idk lol
LMMFAOOOO
1 likeBest comment, 2020!
5 likesI'm getting flashbacks to Smollet's "Australian Tour" rant during his whole fabrication.
3 likesTell me about it! 😆
1 likeIn his defense, he is on adderall lololol
4 likesDetective: "What's your name?"
18 likesLee: "Well, that's actually a thing. Cause I used to do drugs, my brother gave me aderall, and then this dragon came in - well, I know this dragon cause back in grade school my ex once knew a coworker that had an uncle - so her coworker had an uncle because his grandparents, the parents of his parents, had multiple kids - I think 3, but I could be wrong - and was like 'hey, we good?' And I was thinking, you know what, I don't know this dragon. I said nah, and then the dragon got in a truck, a Ford, green. I haven't seen them since. And that's why they call me Lee"
M James it’s so uncomfortable to watch him ramble for over 4 minutes!!
6 likesI've just done some heroin so I'm paranoid, is it OK if I take refuge in this comment thread?, I just want to be somewhere where I feel safe.
9 likesListening to him is like watching paint dry
2 likes@Mike that's how me and friends talk we give all those small details when telling a story... he was wearing a blue shirt, that matched his eyes, or it was a balmy sunny day with little clouds in the sky.🤷♀️
2 likesLmao
2 likes@Mike generally I agree, but I do find it problematic that this particular interrogation tactic links guilt with the fear or intimidation felt in the presence of law enforcement. There are many situations in which it would be entirely reasonable for a person to be afraid of the police even if they are completely innocent - just look at the kind of police misconduct and prosecutorial misconduct that exists in our criminal justice system. Wrongful convictions happen all the time; wrongful arrest happens even more frequently. I can't say I wouldn't feel extremely afraid in their presence even if I had nothing to hide. This seems like a dangerously slippery slope to me.
5 likesM James 😄😄😄😄😄
1 like@emeli anemone me too
0 likesRoflmao
1 like@Sarah Riedel I always think of how nervous people ramble when this tactic comes up. There are many reasons to be nervous in front of police, especially in an interrogation. But then some of these examples on this channel ramble for so long, it's hard to deny there is a difference between nervousness and guilty conscience.
5 likesSo funny I love it
1 like@Sarah Riedel that's where you say...i need a lawyer
5 likes@unpataunpata it's common for detectives to refuse a legal request for counsel by claiming that the person "hasn't technically been charged with anything yet" (these rights only apply to individuals who have been officially charged with a crime). They stick the person in an interrogation room sans attorney - again, claiming that they haven't yet been charged with anything - and suddenly before you know it the person's incriminating themselves even if they haven't done anything illegal. Happens all the time it's a common police tactic.
6 likes@Falling Petunias wow. Nice. Write a book, sir.👍
1 like😁😁😁😁😁
1 like@Doctor Lucario another good interrogation.
0 likes@Sarah Riedel and a dirty táctic. Saw them so much when they're so sure for they seem so wise on series
0 likesNah, he wasn't nearly thorough enough, he should've opened with an account of the Big Bang at least.
2 likesI was thinking something very Similar! 🤣🤪
0 likesShe looked really healthy. Blah blah blah but she looked really healthy. I found this odd. I seriously wanted to yell at him STFU!
2 likesFreakin' funny
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesRIIIGHT! I gotta story I'm ready to tell you detective....
0 likes@christco120 LMAO! Exactly!
0 likesLmfao😩🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this comment made my day during this damn quarantine
1 likeM James 🤣
1 likeM James Jodi Arias was way worse than this one. But, he is a word-vomiter! ✌️
1 like😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 likeLMFAO 😂😂😂
1 likeIt's amazing how much detail some of these bad guys give for some reason that is not entirely clear to me. Speaking of giving too many details that don't matter, I remember one guy who was explaining his last meeting with an ex-girlfriend and he started to talk about how he couldn't have killed the ex because at the time she was murdered he was out with his wife and their little daughter and his daughter was wearing a little pink dress with yellow flowers on it that his mother had purchased for her for Easter and had paid $13.99 for it at a clearance sale and they were eating at Bob's Family Restaurant and his wife had chicken that was really oven baked but tasted just like fried chicken and she had a side order of asparagus because the farmers in their area had an extremely good growing season and grew an abundance of vegetables and the asparagus was in the stores just dirt cheap and he had a steak that he requested be med-rare but it actually turned out to be a little TOO rare and he had mashed potatoes that was mashed with the jackets still on them and he sort of preferred that the jackets be removed but the potatoes were still pretty good.... and he went on and on and on until I was thinking that if I were one of those cops I would probably have run screaming from the room. I was yelling at the screen, "Just get to the point, will you????" Maybe that's why they do it. They think they can drive the cops crazy and the cops will finally say, "I think we can resume this questioning another time. For now we just need to take a break...of about 10 years!
0 likes"... I was closer to god than i've ever been and i was flush with cash"
2 likesDetective: "I really don't want to talk about the fifth grade anymore, Lee"
Lmao. "Went into 5th grade...my mom was still doing meth...started getting depressed...that was my first bout of depression I think...my grades started slipping...couldn't really concentrate ya know...I'm sorry, what was the question?" Hahaha
2 likes😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
0 likesYeh dude wtf is this guy doing lmao
0 likesPMSL yet so inappropriate 😶
0 likes@Doctor Lucario the famous killer cop Stephanie with the bizarre face ... that woman is a freak!
0 likesLmao! That cracked me up, thanl you.
1 like@Doctor Lucario 😂😂😂
0 likesHate to admit to laughing during these videos, but I can’t stop now...
1 likeI'm dying 😂
1 likeTrue story 😂
1 likeWell, that's adderall for you. No wonder why the ladies like him so much, he's a TALKER!!
1 like🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likeBest comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 like😂😂😂
0 likesLMAOOOOO. Now that's funny.
0 likes😂😂🤚
0 likes@Doctor Lucario Gee. Golly. Jinkies. Wonkers. Buzzards guts. Poggers. Bollocks...
0 likesit can't be that accidental killing bc the medical examiner of her body claimed it to be a violent homicide
2 likesThis whole story is tragic, watching the ending was sad, too. Smh don’t murder peeps.
0 likesOne of the most subtle yet powerful moves in the interrogation is having the handcuffs on the keychain banging against the door every time it opens.
0 likes"Fucking Savannah" Ahh yes, it's her fault you murdered her, obviously. I don't know how I missed that bit
2 likesAbsence makes the heart grow fonder, Jim. And it's torturous.
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If you can afford it, sign up to his Patreon for a dollar a month, lot of content on there you can binge!
65 likesIs there a way to buy access anonimously?
4 likes@The New Sun I mean you can use a fake name for your username yeah but as for bank details they all have to be correct obviously
16 likes@PlainSailingWeather yeah thats my problem, I want to keep my real life and my internet dealing entirely separate
21 likes@The New Sun hm well aside from using a fake username there's no way around the bank stuff
8 likes@Rammus Annus there are dozens of videos like this on patreon
15 likes@Rammus Annus yeah exactly like these but opposite what you mentioned, they're often longer and uncensored too, well worth the dollar
15 likes@The New Sun perhaps its only way I can see around it :/
2 likesCan you use a prepaid/gift card for patreon? That way you don’t have to share those details you want to keep private
4 likesBest dollar I ever spent!!
10 likes@Darxcide 马克思 If you only subscribe for a month LOL
4 likesErin Donnelly he has never not posted a video for 3 months. I’ve been a Patreon customer of his since day one, and he’s posted at least 1 video/month from the very beginning. He used to post 2, but now he only posts 1, usually at the end of the month.
17 likes@SalveRegina Thanks for sharing your opinion.
0 likes@Erin Donnelly But he's correct. I'm signed up to the Jim Can't Swim patreon, posts a minimum of one vid a month. It's not an opinion
5 likes@zempath Yes, me too
0 likes@The New Sun you're already on the watchlist, buddy.
4 likes@The New Sun I know what you mean. I mean what if somebody I knew got murdered and I had all these subscription to true crime channels? Probably paranoid but honestly watching this stuff makes you paranoid. Innocent people get convicted all the time.
8 likesJim's patreon is the only patreon I subscribe to. Because it's very reasonable ($1) and his content is top notch. I'd pay $1 per video if I had to, it's worth it! The patreon videos are even better than the YouTube ones too.
4 likes@Cyrene who did you know that got murdered? What was her name? Ah'm not SAIYIN you did anythang..
2 likes@The New Sun like other people said, use a prepaid card.
0 likesi also believe that paypal gives you the ability to add a prepaid card onto their service, too.
@The New Sun believe me you're on the grid unless you're using a VPN, and don't have a cell phone, social security card or birth certificate/record
1 likeDoctor Kettleburn I've watched all his content in patreon and still want more. His break downs are impeccable.
2 likesHis name's not Jim. You don't get the pun in his name.
0 likes@PlainSailingWeather yes. There's lots more
0 likesPlainSailingWeather How much is it per month?
1 likeI wish I could subscribe but Im literally in debt lol
Ain't that the fuckin truth
1 like@PlainSailingWeather I already watched it all D: fml
1 like@Cyrene just dont murder anyone and I think you'll be good lol
2 likesItd be pretty hard to get a conviction off of the fact that you like true crime :p
.. unless you live in west Memphis :/
@Taylor it's one dollar
1 like@Tucsonan Dude I know that, dude. For Jim is magical. Jim is all things. Jim is the light and the way. Jim is a non-being, like the Force. 💋
0 likes@UrMom DotCom Lol yeah there's a few places...
1 like@The New Sun you could use a top-up credit card maybe?
0 likesIf absence makes the heart grow founder, what does presence do? 🤔
0 likesDoctor Kettleburn they hold back on Jimbo for the tough ones.
1 likeINTERMITTENT REWARD
3 likes@The New Sun ...said Gary Glitter.
0 likes@Andrew Killen or any utilities, etc big bro is everywhere
0 likesDoctor Kettleburn, are you a REAL doctor?
1 like@Daniel Tolbert I'm not, but I play one on TV.
1 likeWhat is the pun? Please share
1 likeTucsonan Dude what is the pun. Please share
1 likeYou might be able to put it on a Visa gift card. If you purchase the gift card cash you should be fine.
0 likesPoo.
0 likes@The New Sun use the website Privacy.com. You link your bank through an encrypted system, then you can create "virtual cards" for any website. You can use a different name, address and phone number but Privacy lets the charge through. You can set limits so a site can't charge you any more than that or Privacy declines it. You can also choose to make a one time use card that closes as soon as you are charged. I use it for "free" trials because I always forget to cancel or when I do glitches online, since PayPal now let's merchants change the amount you charged to any amount they want.
0 likesIt's crazy how people can talk without a lawyer. Criminals are scum but detectives are there to close the case, and some will throw anyone under the bus just to get closer to a promotion. In this case, I don't believe for a second that the detectives wanted anything other than closing the case.
0 likesFor anyone wondering, he got sentenced 40 years in prison
2 likesAt the end when he is having his mental breakdown. You say one of the reasons is his knowledge of what's to come. I would just like to say, he has no idea what in the road ahead of him. Karma is in the road ahead of him, and will be with him throughout his journey through the department of corrections.
0 likes36:13 He's blaming the girl he killed. You deserve everything thats coming to you...
4 likesPS: Act of self defense my ass, he could've easily overpower the girl instead of snapping her neck. Glad he's in jail now.
Update: Lee was sentenced to 40 years in prison earlier this year (March 2021).
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Just after he got his covid vax apparently
117 likesThank you
33 likesThanks Google
22 likesNot enough time…
189 likesThank you
1 like@Janoy Cresva do you not realize how long 40 years with limited freedom is?
196 likesHe’ll be out in half of that time.
43 likes@pub g nah if you took the time to research he got around 4 years time served so its 36 ish years and he was sentenced when he was 31 years old so he'd come out at around 67 years old.
201 likesEven if he came out at 55 years old and committed another murder, that would not be the fault of how long the sentence is it would be the fault of the lackluster prison system America has. If the American prison system was good, and he came out at 55 he probably would not commit another crime.
@Simi way less than the time it will take for Savannahs family to see her again.
41 likes@Simi How long is she gonna be dead for though?
42 likesThanks for the update. In some countries, the state takes the prisoners sight, blinds them for life and sends them back in to society.
13 likes@Simi yeah.. but at the cost of samantha’s life? it isnt really fair, i mean how long she gonna stay dead for? is she just gonna magically reappear once the guy gets out of jail?
13 likeswas just gonna look up if he had been sentenced
1 like@Mark Nevels yeah probably eh
0 likesHe should've gotten a life sentence
12 likes@Simi " If the American prison system was good" what youre talking about is a re-education type prison. which we all know what that really is
0 likes@stelley08 Holy crap. Really??
0 likes@기본적인 백인 소녀 life sentence is 25 years, unless they get ‘without possibility of parole’ attached.
13 likesJust saying. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
You all also act like 40 years in prison is easy. 😂 You have no idea on what it actually does to you being there for so long.
The reason most people return back to crime after long sentences is because they can’t acclimate themselves back into society nearly as easy. Do you understand how hard it is to get a job held after you’ve been convicted of felonies? 🤨🤨🤨 How about the fact that 10+ years of society may have passed you by because you were secluded to a single building so damn long, that you don’t know anything around you anymore? 😐😐
Think real hard and tell me how ‘easy’ your life would be then… 🤷♂️
Not enough but thank you
4 likes@Rando Persón "Brooks was here"
3 likes@Gum God Nah, he shouldn't b allowed to live, that girl doesn't so why should he
6 likes@Simi if we introduce the human centipede into our prison system, their behavior will change dramatically. and the latest design is 100% clinically accurate!
2 likes40 years in prison*. Jail and prison are not interchangeable synonyms.
5 likesThx for the update
1 like@Wil D. Beest "So was Red"
2 likes@Rando Persón Okay and he murdered a young woman so I don't really care what it'll do to his damn mind. It was damaged already if he was willing and able to go through with killing someone. Do I feel sorry for the people who are wrongly accused and sentenced and or are sentenced for really petty crimes, yes. But a killer? No.
12 likes@pub g thats not the problem, the problem is the society wich puts a label on him, a "criminal" "prisoner" "ex-felon" when he comes out people wont let him change, he will never be able to change
2 likesPrison? Or jail? Lol
0 likes@Simi Curious minds want to know - If America's prison system is not good, then you're implying that some other country's prison system IS good. What country or countries would that be??
1 likeThank god
0 likes40 years is a long time, now is the time to work on becoming a trustee inmate, he may be able to put on a chef's coat one day in a minimum security facility. At the end he said "Use your head" now is the time for him to heed his own advice. He also should repent for Savannah's death and accept the consequences for killing her.
2 likes@The Map Maker don't get me wrong, there are no perfect prison systems but there are good ones. For example, go research scandinavian prisons.
1 like@Simi America doesn't have a perfect prison system. But then again, nothing is perfect. And you can probably point at some prison system somewhere in the world that is better. But what I really care about, is where does America rank in prison systems, compared to the rest of the world?? I would say that if America's prison system is in the top-10, then it's a 'good' prison system. And then also, what variables or key indicators dictate what makes a prison system "good"?
0 likes@Janoy Cresva He'll be out in 15
3 likes@Simi a sliver of eternity, which is how long Savanah will be gone.
0 likesgood
0 likes@The Map Maker I literally said that there are no perfect prison systems, if you are arguing for the sake of arguing and not reading what I am saying the conversation is done.
0 likes@기본적인 백인 소녀 He got almost two life sentences.
1 like@Simi I'm not arguing. I'm challenging and asking questions, that's all.
3 likesYou're initial post was that "America's prison system is not good". I've also read from other people on this thread that "America's prison system is trash". What I want to know is this -
How are we measuring the performance of our prison system in America and what are we measuring it against, to come up with these conclusions of America's prison system?? What 'performance" indicators are you using to measure? Or are these just knee jerk conclusions? Where does America's prison system rank compared to the rest of the world??
Don't get frustrated because someone like me challenges you with "hard" questions. Maybe you just don't care to be challenged?
@stelley08 Correct. I guess...job security?
0 likes@Rando Persón How hard was it for her as she passed I wonder? Alternatively don’t kill people 🤷🏻
1 like@Simi do you realise that he could potentially get the chance to one day walk out of jail after snapping someone’s neck and burning their body?
2 likes@#FozzieLife, see you take that for this person in particular, but do you know how may WRONGLY accused are actually stuck in the prison system for years, to decades?
0 likesYou’d be extremely surprised. 🤷♂️
The world truly is crazy, you have no idea.
@DestielSnot what if the ‘killer’ did it to save his own life? Do you consider your military front line and special ops murderers, because they kill people? 😐😐😐
0 likesFine line you’re walking there. 🤷♂️
@zHarper
2 likesAnd for the record, he didn’t ACKNOWLEDGE ANYTHING. HE STILL MAINTAINS HIS INNOCENCE.
Men like him that make females their God do horrible crimes like this. What a monster, but Chelsea Chelsea Chelsea, I think she knew more and she went to see him that evening and afterwards, she told him you better erase our msgs , I don't have nothing to do with what happened inside the car.
0 likes@pub g he probably served 15 years , I have heard so many cases were men like him get out in 12 to 15 and do the same in the first year of freedom
2 likes@Sobrid Music noted and changed.
1 like@Theresa Stroll That probably wasn't necessary of me to point out but thanks. Jail is for "innocent" people awaiting trial and for people sentenced to lesser crimes in which the sentence is less than two years, depending on where you are. Prison is where the real bad guys go. Jail is where you'll find someone that drove with a suspended license. Prison is where you'll find someone that killed his wife. Huge difference!
1 like@Janoy Cresva ok so you have that to state about an opinion that is hard to prove, but what do you have to say about the facts i proposed you? I am right and there is no way you can find something that goes against what i stated, so you have to attack small details that have nothing to do with the point i made. So again, do you have anything RELEVANT to say about this topic, or will you just bless me with your awkward silence?
0 likesThis pleases me.
0 likes@amelia lee I don’t think death sentence is ever a good option. A lot of innocent people go to prison even when there’s doubt about their case. Killing innocents is the last thing we want to do.
1 like@qqq few months max
0 likes@Wil D. Beest 😂😂
0 likesW
0 likes@Simi do you not realize he took away someone else’s freedom and life?
0 likesOnly 40
0 likesgood
0 likes@J you shouldn’t talk to police period Even if you’re innocent
0 likesMan so many people just not understanding how the justice system works 🤦
0 likesAccording to this documentary and it's stupid narrator he was never read his rights and with that alone he could have the case thrown out
0 likesHell the way the left is running this world they might let him out of prison just to vote
0 likesNot long enough for pleading not guilty
0 likes@Simi exactly, as much as it's a bit blunt it's the truth half the people who say stuff like "that's not enough" to a 40 year sentence... It just feels like ignorance, these are the people who haven't experienced a year in prison let alone 40 and I feel as if the prison system is flawed if someone with some amount of remorse comes out of prison with none. Some people need counseling not just extra time.
0 likesI agree with the commenter who said “he isn’t sad about the girl’s death, he’s mad that he got caught” which usually describes a sociopath. When they started describing Lee in the very beginning they said “charming, player, etc” That’s all I needed to hear: conclusion- sociopath-no empathy, no capacity to feel other’s pain. Look out ladies-they are out there-just PASS and keep your life drama free!
1 likeawwh thank you for this comment , I was furious when I heard not guilty. ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDING ME how is he not guilty
0 likes@pub g I understand the fear of that but after what i have seen i seriously would doubt it. It was second degree murder out of a situation some of us can relate to. I dont say it wasnt wrong but i think 40 years is wayyyy enough and dont think that he should be put away forever since he will have more than half his life to think about what he has done and become a better man.
0 likes@pub g I really don't think there is any reason to believe he'd murder again. He seems genuinely remorseful and I think it was just a really unfortunate set of circumstances and a very bad and spontaneous reaction/decision on his part. While he deserves the sentence for taking a young girls life, he is not showing any evidence to believe that he is ever likely to murder again.
0 likes@El Astronaute I have a bridge to sell you, hmu ;)
0 likesJustice is dying
0 likes@Janoy Cresva i feel like it’s kind of a reasonable sentence. he clearly was remorseful and 40 years of prison is a fucking lot. When this guy is like 60 or something and free from prison i doubt he’s gonna be much trouble
0 likes@Janoy Cresva Most people would get 20-30 years. Only reason it was that much was because it was an attractive white girl
0 likes@zHarper
0 likesI realize now I was confusing this case with the guy who assaulted and murdered an 8 year old.
Still, he snuffed out a beautiful young woman, race irrelevant. He deserved more because he was afraid of losing his shitty shift manager position.
@Janoy Cresva yeah i imagined that, but still, my point is valid anyway
0 likesDefinitely not enough time.
0 likesIh thats a relief. Thank god
0 likesThat’s when my dog diiiieeeeeeddddddddddd
1 likeAtleast something good happened that month
Fuck yeah!
0 likesWhats about George W. Bush the mass murderer? Talks with Ellen and the country is gigling about his bad jokes...
0 likesWell I mean why murder people?
0 likesI understand self defence but murder is just dumb
0 likesThis guy was my cellmate for 4 months on the east unit pod 1 5th floor cell 9 in jacksonville detention center.. He actually went with stand your ground law .. But he worked out everyday and was huge.. His victim was so tiny..
0 likesLee is so soft to.
Everyone punke'd him out
Good.
0 likes@El Astronaute he literally is only upset because he got caught.
0 likes@pub g That's often the case, and it's understandable to take that default assumption, but in this case, I don't think so.
0 likesGot 40 years with an allowance for time served, all the while blaming his victim. What a star.
0 likesThe emotional reckoning was INTENSELY FASCINATING AND SATISFYING!
0 likesMan I thought he would never stop rambling on and on when the detective first asked him how he knew her.
0 likesI have seen this and all the other videos many times over and I’m still so damn bummed no new videos have been released in so long.. FREE JCS😞
2 likesDetective: How do you know her?
1947 likesLee : Here is our entire relationship and everything about her personal life
Detective: When was the last time you saw her?
Lee: Describes the entire murder scene
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I read this before I got to that part and was thought to myself "Couldn't be that bad"... Sir, you were spot on with this comment.
82 likesAt least he's honest
11 likes@Biden owes me gas money Also a moron for killing someone.........didn't think you wanted to leave that part out.
8 likes@Biden owes me gas money So he's a moron for admitting to a horrible crime? How about the important part... committing the crime at all....
4 likes@zerocal76 yes... what Todd said...
0 likes@Personal Email Jeeez, whats up with you.... "'personal' Email"?
0 likesa fitting name btw., Send an email! Whydontcha...
Probably the adderal
1 likeImagine only getting 40 years in Prison for taking someones entire life away from them, our legal system is legit a fucking joke.
0 likesThis "Breakdown" was exceptionally done. TY
2 likesI find these more effective than "Scared Straight." This is Really, Real. PEACE
@7:37 He may be a murderer of a small, young, Caucasian female and they leave him alone with a small, Caucasian female with the keys in the door. Keys make an excellent weapon.
0 likesDoes the door lock from inside?
Can the table and chair(s) be used to keep the door shut preventing entry for a small period of time?
Say long enough to stab her in the face, eye(s), and neck with a key, break her neck or strangle her?
Why wouldn't the detective automatically bring water in case it was desired thus removing the need to leave his colleague in the room with a possible murderer of small, Caucasian young women?
Seems to me an innocent person would give more details than what is necessary in order to provide points to be tested later. If the version does not change that indicates it may be true. A person with something to hide would say as little as possible. Of course, I know this flies in the face of conventional thought. I think I would voice this theory and answer the questions adhering to this, assuming I was not guilty of the crime in question.
Who gains weight in 3-4 days? BS
Why are Americans so unwilling to call somebody a liar?
I see it constantly.
"She dead that's why you will not tell us, correct?" they don't say once but he is thinking every second. He thinks these two are daft because they won't ask it. And I have to agree with him.
Rodarte received a 40-year prison sentence in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to second-degree murder, according to the State Attorney's Office. Other charges of tampering with evidence and abuse of a dead body were dropped in the agreement.
Just googled this guys name and I shit you not his younger 26 year old sister is also serving a long jail sentence for a totally unrelated murder she was involved in. Nice family
3 likes“most guilty people tend to say more than they need to”
3947 likesme, a nervous overtalker
“shit 😰😰😰”
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To be fair, that doesn't immediately incriminate anyone! Oversharing is a symptom of ADHD as well, even when completely calm (I have ADHD and do it myself)
189 likesit's only one of many signs. saying too little can also be a sign. but these things aren't evidence at all, just an indicator that interrogators are on the right track. if you're EVER arrested for anything, get a lawyer. i've witnessed first-hand people running their mouths and looking more guilty than they actually are, at trial. quick lawyers will interrupt and stop their client from running their mouths. but really, if you're ever arrested, shut the eff up. be respectful, ofc. but you are under no obligation to meet the approval of authorities. they must follow the law. ask for your lawyer.
34 likesWell Alison looks like you're guilty. Turn yourself in to the closest police department
8 likesSame i have 80HD i will rattle on for hours especially if im nervous
9 likes@Bog Meat that's a lot of hds
18 likes@Kimar Spencer yeah it's a Mento I'll nest.
6 likesSometimes when the narrator analyses things I disagree too tbh
7 likesSame I got adhd and ocd and I find myself going on in too much detail about pretty much anything
6 likes@Lyla Hammar that explains it lol I never knew that was why I overshared
4 likes@Anonymous It's because it's about psychology and psychology can only be spoken about in very general terms unless it is about a specific person. So basically lots of people and their personalities and actions fit these psychological explanations, but lots of people don't fit them either.
3 likes@Connoc I feel you. I feel as if more emphasis should be made on the fact that they’re generalisations
4 likesRight!!? I hear that. Over talker 🙋🏼♀️
3 likes@Stefane Freedom IKR, I tend to be the same, guess we're all guilty of some heinous crime then, huh? lol
1 like@Lyla Hammar how do we stop that? how do i stop talking so much?
2 likes@kitsch You don't need to stop! There's nothing wrong with talking a lot. Just surround yourself people who love to listen to what you have to say 💛
3 likesMe too lmao
0 likesAnd he did just say he took an Adderall which makes people talk a lot.
1 likeJust dont kill anyone and you'll be fine
3 likesDon't talk to the police, wait for a lawyer, even if you are innocent.
4 likesGUILTY!
1 likeI try to talk less with strangers and overtalk with people i know
3 likesDITTO
1 likeSo what are you guilty of?
1 likeyeah same, i've got all those f'n letters.
1 likeAnd by that anything that comes out of his mouth.
1 likeLoose lips sink ships
1 likesame thought
1 like@half eaten floor burger yep. Asperger's and a little ADD over here and I hope I never get into anything cuz imma look guilty as fuck
2 likes@Lyla Hammar I was just about to comment this! My ADHD brain either takes in nothing or absolutely everything. I notice so many unnecessary details and have somewhat of a photographic memory. So if someone asks me about something, they get a very thorough answer. I think the desire to help is another ADHD thing that contributes to the over-sharing. I want them to have all the information they might need and then some. So yeah I’d probably talk my way into prison for sure.
5 likes@Lyla Hammar same, and I thought, "shit", too, when I heard that, hahaha. Oh man, these psych break-downs can get into your head, lol. I take Adderall and it makes me shut right up and be in my head, though. I wonder if, when you don't have ADHD and take adderall, does it make you talk more?
3 likes@kitsch take Adderall. Ironically, it shuts me right up because it calms my brain down and I lock into only 1 or 2 things at a time instead of having ten billion scattered thoughts blowing around in my head.
1 like@Fred Red see, I'm so confused about that statement...does it make people talk? Not me...I get in my head and laser focus on stuff.
1 likeI'm a nervous talker too under pressure, but its totally different when you're in an interrogation room! I've been in one a few times, once was for a sexual assault case, and the other was for identity theft. Its definitely nerve wracking being in the room, but when you're reporting a crime, for me at least, it was like a switch flipped in my head. I was nervous, shaky, dry mouth, but I was fairly concise and super confident in what I was saying.
3 likes@C Glenn it definitely makes a difference if you have ADHD or not. Aderall will calm you down and help you focus with ADHD but makes you hyper and talkative without it.
2 likesjust dont say shit. thats all. just ask for a snickers or something and stay quiet.
1 likeLol
1 likeRight? I'm also easily bullied into agreeing to just about anything. Literally just raising your voice at me is enough to break me to tell you I did it. Not great if im ever accused as a murderer.
1 likeHahahahaha feeels
1 like@half eaten floor burger Same
1 likeI am an overtalker... dang.
1 like@astaut well... Good for you then. My friends hate me for it calling me weird
1 like@Marielle Balat thats weird
1 like@SpaceZen Hahahahaha
0 likesyeah i also write essays really long but the last "essay" i wrote wasn't that long i guess but then again that was for a poem; the raven which is pretty short and oh god i'm doing it already. :/
0 likesIn high tense situations like this your self-preservation mode will likely/commonly kick in, so even people with insane high anxiety or nervous talkers don't go this far off the deep end and will in fact give the correct body language and everything without you even realizing it, when answering interrogation questions like 99% of the time. Or so I have heard
0 likesSo don't kill then you're good🤪
0 likeslol ur not alone.
0 likesjust don kill noone ull be fine
0 likesThat's why they get a baseline first, to work out your personality, etc...So you'd be ok 👍☺☮
0 likesSame but I feel like there's a noticeable difference from BPD/ADD level oversharing and what this guy did 😭 like yeah I would probably be like "Oh we worked at the same place. Dated her for a few years, pretty tough she was really crazy" so I might go into a little more detail than I should, but not like "here's a 30 page essay in MLA format detailing the entirety of our relationship with cited sources"
0 likes@(๑•ᴗ•๑) lol I know aye, true...
0 likesI have autism, anxiety, and adhd
0 likesI would be absolutely screwed without a lawyer
😂
0 likesI had to see what happened and I figure anyone reading this now will be wondering too, so in March of 2021, Rodarte pled guilty to 2nd degree murder in exchange for a 40 year sentence
0 likesLife is so good when u don't kill or kidnap someone just relaxing in my couch watching this made me grateful
5 likesCongratulations on providing a detailed tutorial and analysis of what future criminals ought not do under interrogation. /s asshole
0 likesHe shoulda gotten a lawyer the second they implied he was responsible. Having said that, good job on the investigators part. F this guy.
0 likesImagine being the kids of these interrogators and never get away with anything...
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“You expect us to believe that cookie sprouted legs and walked out of the box? Tell us what happened to the cookie! We know you took it!”
296 likes@Lauren A we have seen the cctv footage, i am confirming the cookie did not walk with two legs but instead, YOU ATE IT!!! YOU MURDERED THE COOKIE WE KNOW!!
156 likesWe have video proof son! Its on the tapes, or how do you explain these crumbs?
77 likesSubway cookie 🍪🤤🤤🍪🤤🤤🍪
14 likesThe cookie had a family, they deserve answers Billy
69 likes5 hours later
102 likes"You were pretty hungry right? Long day at school. That teacher was giving you a hard time, right?"
"...yes... dad, we've been through this, I've told you everything, I'm tired"
"And I understand that. I'm tired. Hell, we can all go home as soon as you admit to me that you took that cookie. We all know you did it. We got a whole lot of evidence that you did [ doesn't have any conclusive evidence ], you just need to tell us and we can all go home. You're a good person. You have a good heart, I know that. Nobody's doubting that. Anyone would have taken that cookie if they'd been through what you'd been through"
Lauren A please I’m begging you tell me ! I know you’re not a bad boy!
15 likesI’m sure they get away with plenty. Who wants to do work when they’re at home?
7 likes@Mattteus They dont have to do "work", lets say there is a situation where the kids have been playing outside and ended up breaking something. When the parents ask their kid if it was them, they will clearly be able to read them to a bigger extent.
11 likesKvammiZ sure, every parent wants to psychoanalyse and break their children down emotionally until they confess.
4 likes@Mattteus Thats not at all what i said. They are able to read the answer they get back better than anyone else and will know instantly if they are lying or not
1 likeBlahblahblah Blah man I actually started to believe I took the cookie and almost confessed because I do have a good heart, I haven’t ate a single cookie in 2020...
1 likeKvammiZ that sounds dangerous
0 likesKvammiZ not true. They’re the most deceptive.
0 likesMy ex husband's father is a forensic investigator. He didn't get away with ANYTHING as a teenager lol.
0 likes@Gerr Bear That's completely true. My ex's dad was in forensics, and although he didn't get away with much at home as a teenager bc his dad was really tuned in, he was the most deceptive person I ever knew when we were married.
1 like@Mattteus sinds when is teaching a child, what is wrong and what is right, work?
0 likesFem ke parents who aren’t trained to break people can teach their children right and wrong. It happens all the time. Using those tactics on kids is basically teaching the children to be professional liars.
1 likeThey probably adapt 👀..
1 likeIts ok we just wanted to know what happened to the cookie
0 likesLol every time they call their work friends over you know your fucked with the good cop bad cop routine...
0 likesHow come so many criminals decide to talk to the detective and ALMOST NEVER ASK FOR A LAWYER? It's like they think try and NOT GET A LAWYER AND TALK ALONE JUST TO SEE HOW MUCH THE COP KNOWS ABOUT THE CASE BUT IT ALWAYS BACKFIRES LMAO
0 likesKid: i need to speak w/ my lawyer
3 likesCop: covers bodycam
@clatoripixi you'll feel a lot better after you tell us what happened to that cookie now's your chance, you'll regret this once your locked in that room for 30 minuets.
0 likesjohnb johnb gotta call your bluff, friend. 2020 has been a.... bitc.. errrr... a struggle. We ALLLLLL eat cookies. Don’t play.. you know you eats cookies! 🤨🤣🤣
0 likessteals cookie
2 likesDad: So tell us about yourself
Imagine being kids and COKE
1 likeDad can I at least get a coke and a butterfinger?
3 likes@V P You should start your own channel where you analyze the detectives.
0 likesbeing a cops kid u never get away with anything haha
0 likesLove is blind...They probably get away with everything.
0 likes"When did you last see the cookie jar?"
0 likes"Pfff gawd that must have been like a million years ago"
You'd learn to become the most non-interrogable suspect ever.
1 likeWell they are either never gonna get away with lying or will be the best possible liers.
1 like@Skys lol
0 likesLook... it’s not looking good for you. As soon as your mother gets home I’m gonna have to hand this case over to her. I’m trying to help you. Help me help you. Tell me where you hid the remote.😂😂😂
0 likesI was thinking the same thing lmao
0 likesFr
0 likesYou would be surprised. Kids know their parents.
0 likesThis thread should’ve have entertained me as much as it did !
0 likesParents will always believe what they want when it comes to there kids.
0 likes3:00 I'm surprised they even bothered with the security footage or even looked in the parking lot after 2 hrs.....normally they wait until the trail is long grown cold and or a body is found....
0 likesCrazy to think by the time the interrogation was over so was his life sentence
0 likesThese are just fascinating to watch. Thank you.
0 likesOn minute 29 you can see him sipping some water. Actually I heard one day from my therapist that it's a way of releasing stress - that's why some therapists don't approve of drinking during session - so that the patient can reflect on themselves instead
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Fools gulp
0 likesProbably not a great idea to murder someone in the parking lot of Bonefish Grill bc you're worried you could lose your job at Bonefish grill
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at my birthday with a birthday gift for my birthday
180 likes@baronessa Don’t be so mean, John Hays is just a man who is a man that makes mistakes because John Hays is just a man.
52 likes“We’re a family here at Bonefish Grill, a welcoming work environment that people would literally kill to get into”
74 likes@baronessa I have no idea what you're talking about...I'm lost...how could what I commented be offensive...this guy his defense is he was worried he'd lose his job at Bonefish Grill for having a relationship with a coworker (which is weird considering he was a cook not even a manager or anything). It was not my intention to offend it was simply a comment on how crazy a "motive" that is.
7 likes@John Hays no dude we’re just quoting memes don’t sweat it hahaha
48 likes@baronessa Ah I see 👀
9 likesSavage comment
1 like@baronessa department of redundancy department
4 likesLmfaooooo dudes not too bright 💡 🤣
0 likes@Jibberjabberz lmfaooooo dude doesn't spend tons of times looking at memes and doesn't get a reference, what a toooooooooollll, right?
11 likesThe only rule of fight club is...
0 likesThey could call this rule "The Bonefish Catch." Catch, get it??
1 like@Edward Jarvis Like Deadliest Catch? Or the fact he got caught? Lol well anyways he no longer works at Bonefish Grill so his plan was pretty fishy ;)
1 likeI wonder if they closed the location. A bar near me had an abortion in the bathroom and it had to be sold. It opened up under a new name but it's pretty wild that someone killed a newborn in the bathroom
3 likes@Antony Weber he was talking about Lee Rodarte...
0 likes@John Hays No he was also the manager
1 like@Fun Times Ohhhh...well he was a terrible manager
4 likesNo 😂
0 likesI’ve never heard a detective beg for something from someone
2 likesPleaded guilty to second-degree murder. Got 40 years.
2 likesThe female detective begging gets me every time lol
1 likeThe objective and factual tone is something I really appreciate.
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Yeah man
0 likesI like the narrator’s voice. He sounds like he wanted to say, “It was at this moment Lee knew he f****d up.”
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I had to go to the comments to see who else caught it lol
32 likesI would pay to hear him say this
16 likeshahahahahahaha made my day
0 likesat least it's not that like mid country folky movie-type like "Oh boy, Roy, you ain't gone and done it"
6 likes@cptcurk LOLOL!!!!
0 likesI can almost hear him saying it
3 likesGuilty conscience 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣😂😂
0 likes😀😀
0 likesI love the narrator also.
1 likelol just realize it 😂😂😂
0 likesRon Howard's side gig
1 likeTimestamp??
1 like@Daniel B yes! i keep saying he sounds like ron howard!
0 likes@Lucien De Rubempré he doesnt mean a certain part in the video, its just the narrators voice which sounds like the guy from the meme.
0 likesNow I hear the sound 😆
0 likesLol wat? He said that....time stamp plz?
0 likesThe narrator also has a podcast
0 likesIt's amazing that it only took 2 days to whittle it down to 3 people. 2 of which they could quickly rule out.
0 likesit's weird to watch an investigator's strategy, most people are blindsided by it
0 likesIt's weird how cops can arrest you, and slap you in handcuffs, and lie about why they are taking you in.
0 likesIt’s frightening that these people could easily walk and catch nothing if they just shut up or make very small answers.
0 likes"One day when you have kids"
1104 likesI'm surprised they didn't address that. Another tactic to make the suspect feel like he isn't in any trouble or won't be going to prison.
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wow you’re so smarttt i didn’t even think about that. you’re super good at reading into the line because i feel like I didn’t even notice that loll !
48 likesNoticed that. It definitely suggests he’ll be free and one day have a family.
70 likes@Trudy Kennedy The other prisoners will try their hardest to make him pregnant, it wasn't a lie smh
87 likesVery nice. Must be watching a lot of these videos. 👍
1 like@KuroiShi bruh🤣🤣🤣😭😭
3 likesI was going to put a similar comment and then I thought to myself no one's going to read it no one's going to see the same thing you noticed so I erased my comment and I scrolled down and this is one of the top comments. Yeah I feel the same way I think the detective did it on purpose to give him some false hope meanwhile both the suspect and the detective knew he wasn't walking out of there that day. I have the feelings like the male detective is more seasoned and been doing it longer
4 likes@KuroiShi He better hold his soap tight
4 likesI don't agree actually. I think the point was to make him feel empathetic, try and put him in the parents shoes (which SHOULD make him feel like an absolute shit if he's normal) and the voice over didn't explain that because it was quite obvious
3 likes@Mark Nevels it's a tactic to allow more honest responses
4 likesThey don't need to spell everything out.
0 likesI'm not even a parent but that initial text message in the beginning had me scared for my children lol
0 likes“That’s how people will remember you” the line that broke him
0 likesfemale investigator came off as too loud and desperate and i think for this guy it wasnt the right move. im not really sure why investigators use this form of interrogation, it almost always seems to make the defendant close up even more. from what ive gathered, as a nobody in this field, is that calmer and more direct detectives are more off-putting and threatening. like the male investigator here, its like night and day with the female one. has nothing to do with gender, obviously, just the techniques they choose to use. for example, the "when you have kids" argument fell completely flat for many reasons, but i think the main one is that she compared the victim with a child. Lee and Savannah didnt have a father daughter relationship, they had a sexual one and he most likely never viewed her as a "little girl" so there was nothing there to make him feel sympathy in the female investigatotrs efforts. and i found that very strange how she was so persistent with this argument.
0 likesDetective: how long have you known savanna?
6 likesLee: proceeds to read an online recipie
I kinda felt bad when he said "This is the last time you're gonna wear a Chef's jacket"
3564 likesThen I remembered he murdered a 21 year old girl for absolutely no reason
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He killed her to keep wearing that specific chef jacket
264 likesDon't feel bad he'll be holding and washing Tyron's jacket in prison 😊
102 likes@MLP Shawn washing *
42 likes@MLP Shawn what does that even mean??
29 likesngl i laughed when he was like "she was nice to you!!!" "of course somebody was a bitch to you..." and then a second later was like "how does that make any sense"
58 likesIt is a very human moment, almost weird to watch with the rest of the context
39 likesI guess the reason was because he would get fired for "confraternizing" (sorry if it's misspeled) with the staff. At least this was what i got out of it.
6 likesSame
0 likesyeah man every time i watch these videos i start to feel bad for the criminals and then i realize they're criminals and they didn't feel bad when they killed someone so they don't deserve any sympathy at all!
15 likesMajor Kramer you understand a man who kills someone just to keep his position at a crappy restaurant? I’d understand more if it was a super important job and he also had a family, but he had no one and let’s face it an average job lol, also it was him who got her into drugs in the first place
42 likesPeople don't murder people for no reason. That doesn't make any sense. If there was no reason we'd all be murderers, if people didn't need reasons. I don't actually know the reason, but my guess is that that reason was not a good enough reason to murder someone, not that there wasn't one. When people act irrationally, by definition they don't have good enough reasons to do what they do, they let their emotions take hold. But usually there will be something which has made them so emotional in the first place. I think a lot of the time people don't understand why they feel the way they do. Remorse and guilt is partly about wondering how you could ever have done what you did in the first place. You can't simply admit it because you feel like it wasn't even you that did it, like something more powerful took hold and you have no rational explanation of it. That's called feelings. So to say that this guy lacked feelings or emotions is wrong. To say that he lacked remorse is also probably an illusion created by those who wish to see him suffer, but actually themselves find it difficult to wish ill will on somebody without at the same time telling themselves they are either an "ice cold killer" or a psychopath or whatever. This is a coping mechanism. We are not able to wish suffering on punishment on somebody we can sympathise with. We remove their human qualities in order to make them "punishable". We, ironically, actually dehumanise them, in order, in a way, to have our revenge on them for upsetting the balance in an otherwise peaceful society (or the illusion of one). Here, people often say "I'm not defending him, but", but I'm going to say, I am defending him. He's only human. Humans, for all their worth, are not perfect. We all have moments of weakness, irrationality, passion, anger, rage, violence. All of us. Not one of us doesn't have this in them. There is nothing special about him. Nothing different. My view is that we create a reality where everybody is cool and calm and rational except the people who commit crimes. Yet we all know there are times when we get away with something which we know deep down we shouldn't have done. So my view is that he was unlucky. Both to get into such a difficult relationship with someone he clearly connected to - having shared a similar upbringing and drug habit, as he stated - as well as someone who clearly caused him torment. Maybe he cared too much about her, and couldn't stand seeing her messing herself up on drugs. When parents want their kids to stop doing something stupid, which risks their lives or health, they sometimes hurt them - they may give them a little smack or twist their arm, or slap their head. Maybe he learnt and carried that behaviour over into adulthood, and hadn't realised how much he could hurt someone. But I really wish people wouldn't take all the humanity and subtleties of explanations out of people and situations purely in order to help themselves feel better about jails and prisons.
13 likes@Joseph Edwards I doesn't have to make sense. He clearly loved his job & his lifestyle. Maybe working at the restaurant was his life. People who are in sound mind of course wouldn't kill or hurt somebody but whatever the reason it did happen. I understand that they were in a relationship & using drugs. They both understood the consequences & knew that they could lose their jobs. Whatever she threaten him with it cost her life. Now he's going to pay for it!
8 likeslike a competitor eliminated by masterchef italia ... cry,
2 likescaress the apron, speak in the third person... wtf
It still just shows he feels sorry for himself and himself alone. “Poor me I can’t wear this outfit to work and function with the rest of society anymore.”
4 likes@Major Kramer this is disgusting. You don’t just kill someone if they piss you off. If she was really getting in his space, why didn’t he get a restraining order? You don’t know their personal dynamic, you’re only listening to a guy who KILLED someone and you’re gonna trust his story? Maybe if Savannah was alive she would have a different story to share about what went on with them and what their relationship was like.
22 likesMajor Kramer he thought he was gonna get away with it, but now his life is completely ruined, if he really cared about his job and loved his lifestyle he wouldn’t have begun that relationship in the first place would he? So clearly he wasn’t too bothered about his career, let her tell ruin his job, it was his fault for getting in such a situation, he should have just let her, accepted he made a mistake and built up from there, coz it was his fault for falling for an employee, and getting her into drugs etc, he had to pay the price, he should have paid it, you make any mistakes you have to pay, but instead he tried to be a coward and get rid of the debt and now he’s in prison for life paying the ultimate price and not only that a life is lost and it’s all on his head, he looked at a problem that honestly wasn’t even a big problem at all, I mean worst thing he would get fired that’s the worst thing, but he somehow managed to turn and wreck the entire situation on his head, I mean it seems strange how dating an employee would ruin your career at a restaurant, I can understand a high end job or like a school or college, but a restaurant? The boss would fire him for dating one of his employees? Lol that’s strange, only in America
8 likesDrugs will destroy your life
5 likes@Major Kramer Bro. Dont type comments when you're on drugs. You sound crazy.
12 likes@Squashyhex I feel bad for him, despite what he did was horrible. He has emotions so he's not a cold blooded psychopath.
1 like@KAJETAN HEWITT Hey, thanks for linking this video man, it was a great watch.
0 likesI mean, as opposed to so many of the cases on this channel, this guy seems to be a real human being. One who did something terrible beyond words, and should be locked up for a long time. But, as opposed to most “people” on this channel who are almost alien in their lack of humanity, he seemed to comprehend the magnitude of what he did, and what he’s going to get for it. And I believe in cases like that, there is a chance for redemption.
5 likes@Zezinho TM It's just called "fraternizing"
0 likesI’m sure he gets to play chef in the prison ”restaurant” all he wants
0 likes@Parklawnz a redeemable character wouldn’t veto to self defense, though
0 likesYeah, I also forgot that he murdered a young lady.
0 likesHe had a "reason", it just wasn't a justifiable one...Basically, he killed her to not get fired. Some people...I got fired once for getting into a car accident on the way to work, and not "walking" the 30 MILES...True story!
0 likes@Major Kramer this is all very concerning, Kramer.
4 likesdont forget the boys life is ruïned aswel gotta feel him just made one stupid museale
0 likesPeople like that? I don't feel bad at all he deserves what is coming to him and I wish him worst..
0 likesHey it’s that guy from google+ again
1 like@Major Kramer I understand you're trying to see his point of view, but she did not deserve that.
0 likeswait thats weird everything happens for a reason why tf did he kill someone with no reason? thats suspicious for sure...
0 likes@Major Kramer lol. DO YOU WANT TO BE ON THE WATCH LIST? BECAUSE THIS IS HOW YOU END UP ON THE WATCH LIST.
0 likes@LaCabraAsadaYour absolutely right. No one has the right to hurt, kill or force someone to do something that causes them pain. I can only try to understand what someone does, whether it makes sense or not.
0 likeson the contrary I was over joyed when he said that.
0 likesAbsolutely no reason??? EVERYTHING in the universe has a reason, just because you don't know the reason doesn't mean it doesn't have a reason. Every little thing you do has a reason behind it.
0 likes@davernrush He means after dropping the soap in the shower he will also do Tyrone's laundry.
0 likesI'm such an emotional person that when he started saying that stuff it made me tear up
0 likesugh I hate feeling bad for these people
@clownMonomaniac
0 likesI am also an emotional person but I don't feel bad for him at all, when you can easily kill an innocent person as if she was just a fly and can live with it like you did nothing wrong then you don't deserve any compassion. Murder is the worst crime/sin.
Imagine if she was your sister, would you still feel bad for him? just because he said those "stuff"
Technically he can still work in the prison kitchen. So, is it really?
1 like@Major Kramer yeah I understand that too.
1 like@Major Kramer I agree, some people think they can say and do whatever they want with no consequences and sometimes death is a consequence and obviously prison time. Like we can't assume this girl was soo innocent... I have to agree with this.
1 likeHe was sentenced to 40 years in prison.
2 likesi’m having a hard time understanding why he did it? i’ve watched a lot of these videos and most of the time there’s a pretty clear motive or they have absolutely no remorse. is it really solely because she was telling people they were a thing???
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He didn't want to lose his job.
0 likesOof having taken a lot of adderall in my past I can't imagine how quickly my mind would be racing if I were arrested for murder while on it.
0 likesHow to interrogate someone according to these two: Beg, pretend to cry, and try to get him to feel bad for you.
2 likesCop: So how did you know her?
4803 likesSuspect: I do drugs, she did drugs, we did drugs, my mom did drugs.
What?
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Don't forget "I'm on adderall"
248 likesI wumbo, you wumbo, he she me we wumbo
141 likesAll he had to say was drugs, he didn't need to go into detail.
17 likes@Mister Master All he had to say was "met her at work", why mention drugs in an interrogation room
100 likesZaaaackly!!! 🤦🏾♀️
3 likesMaster all he really had to say was “lemme get a lawyer”
37 likes@Ben Siener Yes I think you are right. He Also mentions that he lacks sleep because of work. Sleep deprivation also makes you uncomfortable. Plus Rodarte probably hopes that being honest about the minor crime of drug use, will make his denial of murder more believable.
20 likes@IPR Maybe he seems so overly open about the infraction of using drugs, so he Will appear honest too when it comes to the capital felony of murder?!
11 likesbased 😅😅😅😅😅
1 likehaha . . no shit!
0 likesHaha this made me laugh so hard
1 like@robynn .
0 likesCommon these days .. unfortunately
0 likes@IPR The adderall probably didnt help lol
3 likesikr
0 likesLord, the comment sections under these videos keep cracking me up
3 likesmaybe he was trying to get jailed for drugs, so he wouldn't for murder xD lol
0 likesI'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude, we're all dudes, hey.
1 likeEVERYBODY DOES DRUGS! Oprah's voice
3 likesWe all just did drugs
0 likesDrugs bro, drugs
0 likesLmao
1 likeClearly this guy is a criminal mastermind, the way he confessed like that, has the cops right where he wants them...
0 likes@IPR But this is the first time he's done it in years!
0 likesIn what world does a guy say, "I'm feeling a bit depressed. I think we should stop seeing each other," and his girl respond, "I understand, that's completely fine."?
0 likesGuilty and innocent subjects see the interrogator as a threat. Interrogators frequently point the blame on innocent people.
0 likesWe miss JCS and only have "JCS inspired." You were on point!
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The jcs inspired just don’t cut it 😩
2 likesIf he would have gotten a lawyer they could have fought this and probably won because there are hundreds of those types of cars and there was no realistic identification. Should have invoked his right to remain silent and requested an attorney that would have been a case thrown out.
0 likesTo anybody wondering, he was sentenced this March (2021) to 40 years.
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Thanks for the update!
92 likesHe will clearly rot in hell.
92 likesLETS GOOOOOO
28 likesIf that bothers you don't look into the Canadian justice system. You could kill and be on the streets in 2 decades.
83 likes@Made By Mot its light compared to most US penalty systems, but when you look at a lot of Western Europe countries you will get around 20 years max + lifelong custody when you commit any kind of murder(s)
45 likesAnd countries like Canada like KING said*
@Made By Mot You’re right, 40 years is light for taking away a lifetime. I wish violent offenders were held behind bars, away from freedom and vulnerable civilians, for life.
27 likesThanks for the update!
7 likes@Made By Mot yeah I just saw a case that happened a few years back. Some guy murdered female coworker whom he had invited to his sister's wedding and killed her that night. He informed the police the following morning and explained in detail what had happened - strangled her, had sex with her corpse, tried to drown himself but failed. First trial thrown out. Forgot what the defence was.....something about involuntary inebriation??!!? Second trial though the jury found him guilty but he was very close to walking free!
2 likes@Made By Mot A "life sentence" is 15-25 years. That's why you'll hear 2, 3, 4 life sentences. So he probably got 2 20 year "life sentences"
8 likesWoow thanks for the update
2 likesGood! He deserved it. There is always a better way to solve such stupid problems than killing someone over it. What was so horrendous? was getting fired that bad? He would have gotten another job! ffs!
2 likesOh that is good to hear. To believe he had the audacity to accuse the half his size poor 21 year old girl that he brutally murdered of attacking him and claiming self defense is laughable....im glad he will rot in jail for what he did
4 likesNice
1 like@ari Unpopular opinion: it is proven that harsher and/or longer sentences don't work to stave off violent crime, especially an impulsive and passionate homicide such as this one. Don't get me wrong he should absolutely be punished, but after that it's time to repay society for your actions.
8 likesI'm pretty sure 40 years is on the harsher side for a crime like this, because he chose to try and wiggle out of his sentence by pleading not guilty. So he got second-degree murder instead of voluntary manslaughter.
@Delta V Pleading not guilty at arraignment is standard, no matter what jurisdiction you are in. I don't think thats trying to wiggle out of a sentence.
1 likeHe will get out someday.
0 likesFiring squad to the knees only
4 likesWould have been better 🤷♂️
Think that’s light. Come to Northern Ireland lol
2 likes@Made By Mot nah lmfao some get 10 or less and possibly for parole. 40 is pretty fucking long
1 like@Brendan Bergh Unfortunate choice of words. What I meant is that they probably went for harsher criminal charges because he wasn't cooperating with the DA after confessing.
1 likeIs it still standard to plead not guilty after a confession? I'm not that knowledgable on US law, but I would wager that a "crime of passion" defence would've gotten him a lower sentence (i.e. voluntary manslaughter instead of second degree murder.)
That's a bit harsh, it wasn't pre meditated, 20 years no parole
0 likes@David_ I agree
1 like@Phantom4545 45 people hear murder and automatically think the guy is Ted bundy or Charles manson
0 likesSmdh
0 likesI don't get the sentences.
1 likeIn other video mom killed two of her children and got 10 years?
Why not 80
40 years is a long ass time... it usually takes a few years for it to sink in, to wrap your head around...but when it does, you can hear them screaming at night...it’s a very deep, unique hopeless scream that casts out a part of your humanity, your sanity, your spirit...
0 likes@krikukiks because sentencing is completely decided by the judge who are different so one might make a person who killed 10 people serve for 10 years while another might make a drug dealer serve for 30
2 likes@Made By Mot 40 years seems a bit harsh
0 likes@Made By Mot I wish I had a bridge
1 likeI was not wondering. (I was until this moment)
0 likesYou guys should look any crime commited in latinarmerica, people here can be found guilty of killing 40 fucking people and be free in like two years just by saying "but I just had the bodies!!! I didn't kill them!!! Just hid them in my house!!!" and then pass the blame onto someone else lol
0 likes@KING DARTHROG YAP ,25 years tops except for one Bernardo dont think thell ever let him out i hope
0 likes@KING DARTHROG I don’t think you guys, American people, can blame or something other for their criminal law.
0 likes@Delta V Yÿ
0 likesMan thank you. As soon as the end didn't tell us I started scrolling looking for this comment
0 likes@c r He will be out before he's 50 !
0 likes@krikukiks Pretty sure the mother and two children thing happened in Canada. Much lighter sentences in Canada.
1 likeGood.
0 likes@KING DARTHROG that's how a justice system that focuses on rehabilitation instead of punishment works.
0 likes@Made By Mot Yeah 40 years in jail is pretty light. It's barely even a punishment right?
0 likesMucho appreciated!
0 likesIn the middle of this COVID thing?
0 likesTHE FU*K!!
0 likesWHERES THE SPOILER ALERT??
That's great news!
0 likes@Delta V you plee not guilty every time. When you take a plee you are essentially pleading guilty I think their are three types that mean the same thing essentially. I would assume almost every person who pleads a guilty signed for a deal. You don’t plead typically because the deal offered sucks or you really just want to go to trial. Depending on the case there is arraignment where you do initial plea not guilty and bail. These things kind of fluctuate depending on the case. Then there is like Pretoria’s where evidence gets presented to warrant a trial. Some other thing I believe. Then trial. Pleading guilty is just not something done without a deall.
0 likesIf only he talked to his lawyer. Joking.
0 likesDid they release the section of the interrogation with his confession?
0 likesI was wondering. Thanks for updating.
0 likes@Weber I understand that pleading guilty is essentially taking the DA's deal, because what's the point of going to court after that. I'm just saying that if he had accepted the deal (or renegotiated to voluntary manslaughter if the deal was 2-degree murder), cooperated with the investigation and showed remorse he probably would have a lower sentence and an easier time appealing for sentence reduction.
0 likes@KING DARTHROG seems logical depending on the circumstances of the murder....
0 likesFantastic.
0 likes@ari Am I dreaming, or is it true that I've been hearing on the news that in this country they are attempting to empty jails of ALL criminals as far as I know.
0 likesSheeeeesh
0 likes@Made By Mot he's gonna get out on Good behavior after about 10 years with time served and life parole
0 likes@Made By Mot only problem is, I doubt he will serve the 40 years. He will likely be released in 15.
0 likes@Made By Mot "how that's possible i have no clue" - well, for example, if they've beaten an admission out of him and that's why he was crying and that moment was cut.
0 likes@Dean Spencer you lost credibility when you quoted lord Farquad, and I’m sure you wouldn’t have the same ideology if it was your family member facing execution when they were innocent. You lost even more credibility when salves and women not being able to vote having anything to do with common sense. There’s hundreds of females on this earth who are smarter then you and me both will ever be, same thing with anyone of color. Race or gender has nothing to do with something that they can or can’t do. And lastly you lose all credibility when you thought medicine or drugs are expensive. I’d say the medical industry is by far one of the US biggest industries and brings in a large amount of income and if drugs had a cheap price tag like they should because most chemicals are inexpensive and cheap to mass produce, the medical industry will plummet!! You’re obviously disconnected from society and problem some old man who has nothing better to do they spew non sense online
0 likes@Delta V Different jurisdictions have different practices. But many times the Arraignment may be the first time the Defense Attorney has time to look at the discovery/police reports. You can always continue an arraignment, but that can be a strategy/due process issue. Many cases start with an initial plea of Not Guilty, and then at the first court day a plea of guilty after reviewing how airtight the case is. A decent attorney will also look at any confession to see if it was obtained illegally to see if it can be thrown out.
1 like@Delta V in this case doubtful as fuck. I could imagine a resentencing going worse. I still get what your saying though. Unless I’m misunderstanding a lot of evidence
0 likesduring the segment when he's alone processing things i almost felt like he was feeling remorse, but then he pleads not guilty and gives the ridiculous self defense story?! ew.
0 likesFor those curious, he got 40 years on a plea deal
0 likesOh man, this female detective is so manipulative with her emotional outburst, what a strategy
0 likesWow, that initial text sure was convincing! "Met this guy, we are running away together". No questions here, seems legit.
0 likes"If you're innocent, you'll give a short, concise answer."
5448 likes'How long have you known Savannah?'
'Drugs. We did drugs together. Took drugs, liked drugs. She did drugs. I did drugs. We liked drugs.'
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Is that you, Brett?
94 likesSSDT he still likes beer
50 likesYou forgot to mention they did different drugs, she did depressants that made her paranoid, he did uppers that made him sedated.
194 likesLee “drugs” Rodarte
44 likesAs an innocent person I'd give a long detailed answered to try and give as many details to help them with their investigation- I'd look so guilty even though I was innocent.
153 likes¿yako thats why there’s “signs” but there’s always people who differ. There’s no hard, fast & absolute way to tell if someone’s lying. You just gotta hope that, first off, you’re never in that position. & if you happen to be, you gotta hope you don’t have some asshole detective, who doesn’t account for the differences from person to person.
41 likesSame. I give too much information when I’m nervous. Just because I know I’m not lying doesn’t make me confident enough to know the other person is getting the message.
54 likesWhat appears shady to others could be as innocent as too much caffeine.
@khaebs IKR!!! I would be terrible in this situation even if truly innocent.
15 likes@POPCORNsaidFU Me too. Thank god I'm not never innocent.
14 likes@Candace Colon-Rivera Agree with the first two sentences you wrote. But if you are ever being questioned by the police, you should remain silent and hire a lawyer rather than hoping the detective will think you are innocent.
38 likes@¿yako I agree. I'm a big talker naturally, so I suppose I'd be on death row if I was ever interrogated for a murder lol.
12 likesIf i was beeing interrogated, i would probably ramble on just out of nervousness.
10 likesThis whole thread has me smiling from ear to ear. Carry on My Dears. Lol
6 likesMimi M fore sure lol I’m just saying. If you’re the person to yip yap lol
1 likeKristen JustKristen 😂 I am the same. But thanks to my true crime obsession, I’ll save my convo for anyone else BUT police. Have you heard of Kristine Bunch? That was the case that REALLY solidified to me, that it doesn’t matter if your innocent you really just need to be quiet. It sounds logical to say, if I’m innocent it doesn’t matter. But that’s just not true...
12 likesMmmkaayy?
1 likeOmg as a true crime person AND someone who thinks. of weird shit when I’m bored my search history alone would convict me
12 likesExample - after reading about the Routier case where her sink lit up with luminal I was curious and googled “are there any chemicals that can get rid of blood so luminal doesn’t show??”
Lol ps the internet didn’t give me an answer so it’s good I’ll never murder anyone
arlieta Ross 😂 yeah I def have an interesting search history too screw cops finding it, I don’t want my MOM to find out 🤣🤣 & im 30
8 likesHave they try DMT though?
6 likes"Most" people would do so. There are chatty cats that also are innocent.
4 likes..and also hugs. We liked drugs and hugs.
3 likes@khaebs I applied for a job, once, at a police station. I wanted to be a police dispatcher. They'd had trouble with a dispatcher in the past - that dispatcher had a violent boyfriend who was pulled over by a policeman. Rather than tell the policeman about her boyfriend's violent record, she omitted it. Unfortunately for the policeman, he didn't know this, and the boyfriend harmed the policeman. So, when I went to interview, they wanted to know if I would ever omit information even if it was a friend. I said no, of course not. That part of the interview I aced. The second part was they wanted to root out any possible bad behavior from the get-go, stuff that wasn't on the books. So, the second part of the interview was a lie-detector test. I got so freaked out I failed. I kept on thinking, "What if I did something illegal and I don't realize it? What if I forgot?" I mean, I just really overdid it in my head. I failed, and the policeman that gave me the test walked me out. He had a mad look on his face, like he just KNEW I was a bad person. Yeah. I didn't get the job. That day, I learned that the lie detector test isn't an accurate device. Sure, it can give you an idea on what a person is, maybe. But some people lie and believe their own lies. Other people don't give a crap whether they are telling the truth or not, and they don't feel guilty about doing bad things. The lie detector isn't going to catch those kinds of people. What it does do is pick up on elevated heart rate and breathing, such as when someone gets nervous. All the questions are yes/no format and unlike what you see on tv, a person is told NOT to answer with more than yes or no. Messes up the test more, I guess. Anyway. It was an interesting experience.
7 likesI like the onscreen timer for his response! It was a nice touch.
5 likesLMAOOOO
1 likeI don't know man. If you actually had a complicated relationship with the person and don't have anybody to talk to to pour out your feelings this could be a valid response
2 likesThat Adderall really backfired
12 likesBlackSeranna lie detectors are known pseudo science bs
1 like@Dylan J Not psuedo science. Lie detectors do accurately measure changes in pulse, blood pressure, and breathing. But what they can't tell you is why those changes are occuring. They cannot detect a lie, as their name suggests. Merely just changes in the human body. Which can result from lying... Or many other things, such as anxiety or nervousness.
0 likes"Did some drugs, dealt some drugs, hauled drugs long distance"
3 likes@¿yako also silly for JCS to say "an innocent person wouldn't view the detective as a threat, so would do such and such" Um lots of innocent people would fear a detective falsely accusing them of something and try to explain things as much as possible. It's completely rational for an innocent person to do so..detectives/police have the power to ruin your life if they wish, innocence be damned.
3 likesIll tell ya who did it. It was the Clintons! And their administration!
1 like@Alex Anderson - that guy made it to the supreme court. #abolishsupremecourt
0 likes@pubcollize i'm at the beginning still, i will die if he actually said that.
0 likesMost people don’t know this but Kavanaugh is the judge who blocked the JFK files from getting released. The CIA owns Mr. “Drain the swamp” Trump. Just another puppet with brainwashed supporters.
0 likes@pubcollize lol, first of all. it was the 5th comment down. second, it's called multi-tasking. and third, i didn't mean i would die from the "spoiler," if you can call something that happened irl a spoiler, i meant from the comment itself. ie; it's ridiculous if he stated that. also why would i be worried about someone that already committed murder and is in jail 'going psycho on me?' what i said was clearly hyperbole but your analogy didn't even make sense.
1 like@Alex Ruland i canz hyperbole too
0 likes@pubcollize but can u haz cheeseburger is the real q.
2 likes@Alex Ruland Yes, yes I canz.
0 likesFeel was his first attempt to discredit her
0 likes@brandon carra yep, or just to smear her image.
1 like@Tyler H fr
0 likesWe did drugs. I did drugs. Do you like drugs? I like drugs. Do you like drugs? Do you think I have a shot at becoming a judge on the supreme court? Beer. Hmm...I could do some beer...
0 likes@Codeine Cowboy Waahhaha
0 likesNoah Godfrey I Agree With You 💯 % Sad 😞 Now That Bastard lost everything
0 likes"Heroin. I don't use, i just like to be around it, study it... use it sometimes"
1 like@MsGameALots as an addict in recovery i found this comment insensitively hilarious haha x
0 likesI don't do drugs. I am drugs.
1 likeLuqman Hakim
0 likesMaybe joe
shit that’s funny lol
0 likesYour comment have me laughing so hard at 3 in the morning. R.iP Savannah.
0 likes@paulrwjr hard liquors, cigarettes and weed
0 likesYeah what a fool, it wasn’t even what they asked him... about drugs? No sir. They asked how if/how you knew here not what you did with her hahahahaha
0 likes@howdyhowdyhow " I have good news for you. The gum you chew is coming back in style."
0 likes@howdyhowdyhow It was a Twin Peaks reference. I know, it was a long time ago.
0 likesLMFAOO
0 likesI did drugs
0 likesShe did drugs
My mom did drugs
👁👄👁💊
@¿yako Yeah some people respond differently for different reasons like they were saying but this guy also admitted to taking Adderall before the interview and that tends to make most people that don't medically need it talk a lot and ramble on about things.
0 likesPOPCORNsaidFU me too!!
0 likesHave you ever watched any episodes of the first 48? Most of the truly innocent people not only talk openly and give as much info as possible (totally me. Ramble onnnnnnnn!) but when confronted with the fact that they are a suspect they freak the F out!
Now. Guilty peeps have also freaked the F out, but you could tell it was fake. Same with the crying but no tears. 🤦🏼♀️
arlietalks I caught myself going thru the evidence photos of that entitled Mike guy who shot up the Durango full of teenagers “thugs” (in his words 🙄) the young man who was killed - attorney has a website full of photos. Well. Florida also makes evidence public.
0 likesSo. Yeah. Search hx would snatch my arse right tf UP!
Dr google is too damn easy to get lost in...
”And I lifted weights with Toben and Squee”
0 likesMakes you wonder if " as the parent of a murdered child " do some parents pay money to felons families to make sure the killer gets a regular rough ride inside ?
0 likesI love seafood in general and I went to the Bonefish Grill in Columbia, SC and they were always closed. I just gave up after 3 tries. Now I am glad I did!
1 likeHe's the epitome of not sorry he did it but very sorry he got caught.
0 likesDo you think he would of got off the murder charge if he lawyered up right away? They only had that video evidence.
1 likeWhen a detective wears a bowtie, you know you are dealing with someone different.
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Perception of the interrogator is usually not an accident.
12 likesHahaha The magician interrogator lee thinkin "how did he know"?!
6 likesNot according to jake peralta...lol
3 likes😂😂😂
2 likesLmao
0 likesNathan Jedrej I seen that and was like ”This detective is cooking with grease now!”
1 likeReminds me of the female detective wearing black and white stripes in the interogation of Chris Watts
5 likesIs this a Conan reference
1 likeWhenever I see a bow tie I automatically assume they are a class clown personality
1 like@Pat John the fast show's colin hunt. The office joker. He loved multi coloured neck wear.
0 likesThose detectives dress nice for Florida.
2 likesJesus Christ. I’m happy he got caught, but if I got taken into a police station on a “traffic warrant,” and they started asking me about the disappearance of my ex girlfriend, the first thing I’m doing is asking for a lawyer. How are all the criminals so fucking dumb? I’m happy they are, but I just don’t get it.
1 likeWhen a cop gets that excited about you asking to use the bathroom you know you're in BIG trouble !
0 likesI just wanna see footage of these people's daily life in jail, to see what happens to them
0 likesA rare case where someone confesses under interrogation. Usually everybody lawyers up. Hence a popular video.
1 likeAh yes, the old "Can't go to prison if I don't stop talking" technique. Classic.
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Right lmfao 🤣🤣😂😂
9 likesROFL LMAO LMFAO LOL PMPL SMAL KNWL FMML LPWL FYML XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
6 likesFilibuster
15 likesI belive that's a type of philibuster (sp.)
5 likesyak yak yak.. he beLIEves he can talk his way out of trouble... watch Michael Dunn's police interview... another man who beLIEved he could talk his way out of being CONvicted of murder and stand on his right to protect his life and the life of 'the love of his life' aka fiance' who didn't lie for him. She is A GOoD. WOMAN who got. CONned by a CONman....
4 likesThe murderers filibuster
7 likesActually burst out laughing at this comment 😂
1 likeNailed it
0 likesliterally every uk case is just “no comment” again and againnnn
2 likes😂😂😂
1 like@:I brits are masters at getting away with it
3 likesJust look at the colonies
@Bloody Hell omggggg true tho
2 likesHahaha
0 likesDude said he'd took an aderol...
2 likes@Damian Daze I was just going to say that.. it was the addy lol
0 likesfollowing Jodi's lead 🎶👩🏻🎤🤸🏻♀️
0 likesCop: "How long have you known her?"
0 likesHim: "The last time I texted her was a month ago"
I had a cousin who is a heavy drug user. He says the paranoia makes him a better driver, like he super focused.
0 likesThis technique wouldn't have worked on me. If they'd kept me waiting for an hour and a half I would be too angry to tell them anything coherent, regardless of whether or not I'm guilty. I suppose I might give them another reason to arrest me, after I deliver a most righteous slap, but no jury would convict me of that.
0 likesI will never understand how any sane human being can kill another human in cold blood, firstly. Secondly, after the fact, I don't understand how this sane human being can feel no remorse whatsoever for what they had done. He was crying and screaming out of fear for himself, not out of remorse for what he had done.
0 likesDetective: "So how do you know Savannah?"
6010 likesRodarte: "Well, in the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth..."
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LMAO CASE CLOSED
146 likesLolz
14 likesBro🤣
16 likesLike I never thought he’d stop rambling. Lmao
70 likesThat Adderall had him ready to tell his life story🤣🤣
73 likesI..have..been..really..sick..all..week..and..now..recovering..Your..comment..gave..me..my..first..belly..laugh..Thanks.
15 likes“Work bro, that’s how”
13 likesLOL!
2 likesThat’s the adderall talking lol
13 likes😂🤣 Right!!!
4 likesFilibuster technique. If I don’t stop talking they’ll never build a case. Lol.
20 likes😂😂
2 likesProve it
2 likes😂 😆
2 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣my nicca funny AF
4 likesAnd the more he talked he tld on himself 😂😂
5 likes@Elsie Marina I hope you are feeling all better this week
1 likeBro, your profile photo looks like the UFC “Warhammer”
3 likes10 mins after the original question.. Detective "you know you have the right to remain silent?"
2 likesLmmfaoffff
0 likesSo he lied from the very start ! No such thing as god.
4 likes@Amazing Grace messenger just stop.
4 likesIf you don't want to get vaccinated then don't. If you get sick then that's your consequence.
We always ask that question but the Earth isn't flat... or is it?
2 likesHey, Vsauce-
he just kept in going😭😭😭
1 likeIf YouTube had a comment hall of fame....this comment would be inducted!
3 likesThis is the 3rd time this comment gets recycled, give credit at least to the original poster
0 likesADDERALL! And, you know... murder.
2 likesLMAOOOO
1 like🤣🤣🤣👌
1 like🤣🤣🤣
0 likesProceeds to explain human history
1 like😂 lol
0 likeshe could be a match for Jodi Arias with those answers
3 likes@Elsie Marina Are..you..missing..your..space..button,,,
3 likeswhat I wanna know is how old is that female detective bcz she said her little daughter is the same age, if she is over 40 then damn, how?
1 like🤣🤣
0 likesHomie was on adderall and doesn’t take it often... he’d probably have talked MORE if he was innocent lol
3 likesSky wizard did not create earth
0 likes@Amazing Grace messenger You need meds for paranoia.
1 likeHe’s trying to play the insane card, if he can spend 14 minutes holding a conversation with a female luring her into the car, he’s sane enough, maximum sentence please
0 likes@Amazing Grace messenger you do you, that’s your prerogative. But this has literally nothing to do with the subject of this video🤷♀️
0 likesHahahaahhahah
0 likesDed🤣
0 likesAnd Lamech begat Seth, and Tera begat Peleg, and Jacob begat Dinah
0 likes😆
0 likesGood one heehee
0 likesWe got so much to go through if we starting from there.
0 likesStop stealing comments.
1 like@Matthew Murray OMG I'm not even medicated yet this is hell funny 😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Ronnie Scores man i thought the addrrall story was just an excuse for him to be nervous but idk
0 likes@A W I just mean the way he’s acting is someone who’s 100% abusing adderall lol
0 likesAs a follow up.. Rodarte pleaded guilty to second-degree murder and received a 40-year prison sentence.
0 likes"mom im gonna die when im in jail"
0 likeshe wasnt upset he did something horrible, only that he got caught and will be punished.
This is better than any tv show I’ve seen and I don’t have to use a vpn to find it
4 likesWhile it is heart-wrenching to see such a beautiful woman get killed this violently, and a man's highly potential future get destroyed by a misguided emotion and a set of actions, this video, more precisely after the end of the interrogation, shows that a person can just ruin all of their attempts by just doing one terrible mistake, intentional or not.
0 likesI personally do grieve for both the victims and this person: I believe that this man could have a very bright career as a chef and as a man in general, if it wasn't for this unforgiving accident that he caught himself in the middle of; and if we take it a bit deeper with the girl, we could see that this would have been avoided if she knew where to stop and had done the right actions to keep herself and him sane from the start. Trust me, hooking up is a very powerful tool for bonding, and if the actions in the follow-up are done without full attentiveness to your and the other person's action, it could end horribly like this.
The moral of this interrogation session is to get a hold of what you get the urge to do, and what you do that could be potentially manipulative and sensitive to others. No one is born evil, the term evil is just someone's bad cope with the problems they had in their lives. Hopefully we all could learn the self control so we don't mess up like he did.
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he has to be held responsible for his actions
3 likesyour comment gives off victim blaming vibes
"if we take it a bit deeper with the girl, we could see that this would have been avoided if she knew where to stop and has done the right actions" nothing she has done justified him taking her life, she shouldn't have to act a certain way to be able to live, and saying that comes off as you victim blaming her and making it out to be her fault why she has died
your whole comment is about how hes this "poor" man who make a "mistake", saying its just a mistake is an understatement, he took a life and tried to cover his tracts, i dont believe he deserves pity.
I like how the detectives communicate under the table by kicking each other 29:49. It's the perfect detective duo
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Woah, that's really interesting, I didn't see that
86 likesWhat's the point of kicking each other?
6 likes@Turki Vinsmoke They are doing it to take turns talking so that they don’t speak over each other.
129 likes@Turki Vinsmoke the female detective wanted to talk so she kicked the male detective and that's why she stopped talking and she could talk
111 likesThank you for pointing that out :6
13 likesThe BEST comment in this section. WOWW
27 likesHigh level communication !!
11 likesGood catch
6 likesNice catch! I wouldn't say that's a kick tho, more like a nudge to let her keep pleading
4 likesyou should become detective with those keen eyes
5 likesHe’s smashing
4 likesI sHiP tHeM
3 likesyou just KNOW...
2 likesI think she was trying to make him emotional and get to the truth but male detective start talking
4 likesOh that's good!
2 likesKicking your partner under the table, let yourself continue, speaks of the lack of coherence and coordination of their actions. Another huge disadvantage.
0 likes@Yuby Nuby I wouldn't say lack of coherence and coordination due to the male detective responding quickly to the little nudge she gave. It's just an interesting way to communicate without having to alert the suspect.
2 likesIt’s funny that all criminals who are interrogated are much more preoccupied of how convincing and truthful their lies sound, rather than thinking that the information they share is going to be used against them during the trial. 😄
0 likes“One day when you have kids”
1 likefully knowing this dude ain’t ever seeing the light of day.
Seeking approval with a lengthy answer because of fear is very interesting
1 likethe voice of the narrator makes his series the best of them all
1 likeSo he killed her because he was afraid he'd get fired from the all mighty BoneFish Grill?
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jbaby007 Yeah.
102 likesDude, a restaurant where you can be the head chef + manager AND it's ok for you to pick your scabs while at work? I wouldn't kill to keep this job, I'd massacre.
900 likespubcollize ew.
101 likeshe was so proud that he is a head chef
86 likesMaybe he was the worlds first Bonefish employee who made 7 figures 🤷🏼♂️
72 likesI guess he didnt want to get boned for bone-ing bonefish employees *cue CSI yeeeeaaaahhh!!!
122 likesRight?! Because being arrested for homicide is much better
64 likesHe was a manager
12 likesyou can get a job managing a restaurant anywhere. you choose killing her over finding a new job.
151 likesthat decision cost you your freedom. forever.
amazing
@chalkywhite231 not to mention it cost a woman her life. But yeah what you said.
81 likes^-^
Pretty dumb. Dude gave them the motive within a minute of the interview.
60 likesOh yeah he was reaching!!
3 likes@pubcollize thank you for that good sir.
7 likesHe might be lying about the motive of course.
16 likes@Angel Face THAN! It's not difficult.
5 likesHe burned her body in a homemade fire pit and then went and dumped it off. What an insane thought process. Wow.
35 likesI doubt it. . You really think that's the reason why he killed her? He probably got her pregnant and didn't want the baby.
33 likesWell, in his defense, murdering co-workers wasn't specifically forbidden in the employee handbook, only dating them was. Technically, it wasn't against company policy.
66 likes@Seth Bishop not a stupid comment at all. You're completely correct.
1 like@Legendoflaw21007 Whittle haha right on, consider it amended!
2 likesI mean its fucked up to kill anyone period let alone over a stupid job but let’s be real. If this dude was head chef and the manager he would be making some really good bread. He could be clearing well over 70k a year. Restaurants make money
7 likes@Tahkeem Hilton2.0 In other words he's a malignant narcissist that only cares about himself.
13 likesFrom what he was saying near the end, he thought he was "going places". So I can only conclude he had plans to be a chef at a really nice place in the future some time.
10 likesHe's lying. He didn't want to let her go. He kept her in the car to try and convince her to give him one more chance. When she said no, he lost it.
40 likeslmao 🤦♂️
0 likesAlmighty*
0 likes@Question Everything I'll drop my pants
0 likes@pubcollize Hahahaha.
1 likei bet that 99% of ppl here commenting dont even have a job lmfaoo
5 likes@Michael Knight Ooooh another internet comment grammar detective here to save the day!!!! 🤦♂️
4 likes@jbaby007 lol
0 likes@David Parry Agree with you, I do.
0 likesObviously you've never been employed at the BFG... .
4 likesBonefish is my favorite. Hope my chef ain’t throwing his neck scabs in my Chilean Sea Bass 🤭
7 likesI said the same, like dude its bone fish grill. He coulda just got a head chef job somewhere else. Really not that deep bro.
7 likes@Dio Brando Very true. It amazes me how some people think their workplace is the world.
4 likesIf that job meant that much to him, he should never have gotten involved in a relationship with that girl.
7 likesWell, there was the scab thing too...
1 like@skullpull 101 that's shitty and funny at the same time
0 likesNo that’s just what he said but it’s probably something like she broke up with him
0 likesLol
0 likes@Sarah L yeah I don't think he was in a rage over possibly losing his job , it was something else
0 likesdamn.
0 likesShe had wounds over 70% of her body. He did much more than just pop her neck.
2 likesShe was 5 feet tall.
F’kn monster.
@Henry Townshed The Medical Examiner stated: No Fractures of her Spine(So him saying he accidently broke her neck; isn't true) She did Heroin before getting in his car, Medical Examiner said she had NO drugs in her system(Shoots that lie down) and She was not pregnant. So after reading the Medical Examiner's report, I guess I am with the person that said he did it to keep his job...I mean what else could it be..his girlfriend already knew about Savannah.
5 likesNDN Mixed Blood so she was gon snitch?
0 likesMan I’m craving some Bonefish Grill rn
0 likespubcollize I’m your 420 like
0 likesHe killed her for his job that's crazy
1 likeMaybe he was due $1 raise soon so...
2 likes@Shelby Ruch he wasnt picking scabs those were fresh injuries he lied
1 likeTbf bonefish is pretty almighty
0 likesJ Gottberg lol...touché
1 likejbaby007 he needed the benefits. Obamacare weren’t cutting it.
0 likesHenry Townshed that makes a lot more sense
0 likes@Henry Townshed thats what I thought
0 likesPpl have killed for less
0 likesSuch a beta
0 likes@Laura Lannister So what are you trying to prove? you can do it better? loool
0 likes@Stacey B. cmon adapt to the situation.. he was really thinking no one find out. lol
0 likes@Bonnie Lee damn did you just make that up by watching that?
0 likes@AlekZ , I have no idea why I wrote that comment. It was 7 months ago. I'd have to rewatch it again to see why I wrote that. Back then, I watched it three times and I looked for other videos on it to get some more information, which they didn't have any back then. I did notice that my comment got thirty likes. That means thirty people must have been picking up on the same thing I was. I just now read the comments above mine as I was looking for mine and also trying to jog my memory. Somebody wrote that he probably got her pregnant and didn't want that. Well there's a recent case with that same motive. It seems to be a common reason for murder. Of course an autopsy should show that. But do these shows really give you all of the information? I think not. And on this case ( it was puzzling ) i was looking for more information and I couldn't find it. So because of that, that's why I must have tried to take a harder guess.
0 likes@AlekZ , ok, I just rewatched the video. You're right. I did not get the information from just that video. I must have found more information on it some how, some where because I'm pretty sure there was no more video information. Maybe just one. I also like to dig through the comment. Sometimes you will find people close to this case like who live in that same town. So, I remember information about their hangouts, gossip at work, close talk with a friend, and girlfriend number one threatening to leave if he didn't stop seeing her. So there must be another video out. Also google his name. After 7 months they might have some more info on it. One of her parents, or both were also addicts. But at any rate the only thing this video has is at time stamp 15:30 to 16:22 where he explains to her to quit gossiping that we are still seeing each other. That it was against company policy. That they agreed to split and she said, F you. And that she said that she would continue lying. So since we know that he lies, this could be part true. I could infer that... I could infer anything really. I could even assume that she was pregnant. Cause I like that comment. He felt threatened to want to kill her. He could have said, my old lady says stop or I'll leave. And Savannah probably was fighting for him. She wanted to steal him away from her so she said, no, if you're going to keep seeing me, I'm gonna keep letting everybody know. I mean the guy made good money and he's supplying her with drugs. But that's just a guess. In this interview he says, I'm sorry to Savannah. He says, she was nice to me and somebody else was a bitch. He's so scared of girlfriend number one that he dare not use her name. And he said something else about girlfriend number one without using her name as if she put the pressure on him. So he wanted things to stay the same. He wanted that control and Savannah was now pulling the strings and he lost it. You know, a memory is coming back to me. That meeting was demanded by girlfriend number one, if my memory serves me right. Because he had to report back to her. Yeah; Definitely check into this. Put in the youtube search his name and then do another one with her name cause it is a good case.
0 likes@owntone5 and now he’s going nowhere
1 likeLike ...........
0 likesNo. He killed her because he lost his temper.
3 likes@chalkywhite231 I’m a manager & didnt request to be one, it was my first day on job
0 likesNo that was likely just part of his bullshit
0 likesIt was probably a relationship thing/issues with women thing
@Henry Townshed highly doubtful. More likely mr 'rico suave' was messing around on Savannah & she found out. Then, to get even, she threatened to rat him out and get him fired.
0 likesLmaoo
0 likes@chalkywhite231 It seemed like he had a 7th grade education.
0 likesDetective: "How long have you known Savannah?"
1 likeLee: "To truly understand you question, one must venture into the past to distant Babylonia. "
She was on his ASS. I’d love to see more investigations from these two. Fkn outstanding 1-2 combo
0 likesInvestigators: “How long have known Savannah?”
3 likesWhat Lee heard: “Why did you apply for this job?”
Has nobody considered that Lee might have magic neck popping hands?
1 likeDid anyone else find those texts extremely creepy? Imagine getting that from someone you know. Instant red flag
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Yeah I had a chill
46 likesI was wondering if anyone else had the same feeling
24 likesCreepy af! Also dumb, sounded so fake I bet he was on something when he wrote it.
62 likes@Jess no, he was a complete idiot what he was sober already so no he wasn’t high he is naturally like that
11 likes@The Thyme Cube that's scary
3 likes@BadSniper7 just one.
0 likesI feel so bad for this guy. He’s hurting.
1 like@Let Me Catch You Slippin yeah cos he beat strangled and burnt an innocent woman, not that much hurting just got caught imo.
32 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin smh
15 likes@somniumisdreaming I mean, you know you were exaggerating, I just want to keep your argument in check if you’re going to combat what I was implying.
1 like@Let Me Catch You Slippin I was about to argue with you until I realized you were trolling, start off absurd from the beginning so you don't raise my blood pressure pls 😂
23 likesReminded me of Hostel
0 likesIt looks like he didn't even try to make it convincing when writing the texts.
3 likes@The Thyme Cube lol legit
0 likes@The Thyme Cube lol pretty much
0 likes@The Thyme Cube How this guy thought the family would respond to his BS texts:
4 likes“Where’s Savannah?”
“Savannah won’t be at dinner tonight. She texted saying she’s leaving forever. This is extremely out of character but I’m willing to accept it at face value.”
“Yes, I no longer have questions about her well-being or whereabouts either. Pretty much no reason to ever bring up her name again.”
“Yes. Goodbye forever Savannah!”
Chills. Imagine getting this texts from you little sisters phone
0 likesChrist Almighty. I have three daughters. If one of them sent me such a text... makes me shudder to even consider it.
1 likeI dunno my ex literally did that, after we had split. Met someone and just ran off with them.
0 likesHe must've been on drugs when he sent them the way the were written like wtf
0 likesExactly. That first line alone
0 likesIf literally anyone I knew said that I'd IMMEDIATELY call. I don't know how he thought that'd play out.
0 likesTerrifying, literally tells you that persons dead
1 likeGive me a time stamp for the part about the texts pls?
0 likesTimestamp plz?
0 likes@The Untrained Nose it's like in the first couple minutes of the video wtf
2 likes@Tutto Salvé I had skipped it unwittingly
0 likes@The Untrained Nose ahh no worries, that was a little confusing lol
1 like@Tutto Salvé seeing it now so prominent like you said, I understand your reaction ; D
0 likesThere's something incredibly human about, "That's the last time you get to wear a chef coat."
2 likesDetective : "when was the last time you saw Savanah?"
1 likeLee : "Well it all starts at the beginning. My father, was, a drinker. And a fiend. One night he goes off crazier than usual."
Psychologically ain't nothing more painful as an irreversible epiphany
1 likeThe only thing you have to say to police during interrogation is “lawyer”. Why are so many oblivious to this?
0 likesThe irony at the end when he is crying for his own life and says "i'm gonna get my ass killed in prison." Yeah dude it's scary to contemplat being killed. Now imagine actually being killed...probably really terrifying as it is actually happening. The only reason it was difficult to watch his breakdown at the end is because he was crying for himself alone.
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That's not what irony means.
7 likesIrony? Not really...
2 likesVery well said. 100% agree
2 likesDifficult? More like sweet justice.
1 likeI do feel sorry for him even after what he did! I'd like to see him succeed in life!
0 likes@Randall Flagg Really? I see why you say that but I also feel like it fits under irony. He didn't feel bad for killing her but feels bad that he may die. He wasn't scared for her or understand her fear in her murder but is now terrified that he will die. What would the correct term be? I'm genuinely asking
4 likes@Emils Kukojs I feel nothing for that thing, he semmed not human even when he was crying, the crying sound false, he was worried for his ass and there was nothing of guilt on what he was telling.
1 likeHe was crying bout how shed been nice to him and bout his own stupidity too. Idk I felt that. After watching so many cases with fucking sociopats this natural feelings made me sad
2 likesIs there a "technical" reason of why they didn't release the whole interrogation? Are they afraid criminals will learn interrogation techniques or what?
0 likesthanks
Who else has watched all his videos multiple times, still missing JCS. I swear I would pay him 1 million bucks to read a story every night to me 🤣 🤣 🤣
3 likesThey likely edited out his confession because they broke the law to get it, lying about evidence or something. Happens all the time.
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That's what I thought too
0 likesThey literally have evidence he’s on camera 🤣 y’all are sick
1 likeDetective: "How long have you know Savannah?"
0 likesLee: "Fade in. Exterior. Unnamed city. Day. The hustle and bustle is a symphony of progress. We pan past windows, each of which contain a different story, to find Jacey Lakims, 28... hot, but doesn't know it..."
Man I am screwed if I am ever interrogated. I always talk too much in pursuit of whole honesty, feeling like leaving things out is deceptive.
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The key is don't be interrogated. Just say lawyer, please
0 likes4 detectives in a interview ! Lawyer please .
1 likeIsn't that ironic that he said "mom I'm gonna die when I'm in jail" when he is going to jail for killing someone. Makes me angry.
0 likesi love how passionate the female detective is; i feel like she’s putting herself in the victims moms shoes
6 likesUpdate: Lee got 40 years for the murder of Savanah Gold.
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YES!!!!!! He deserves every waking moment.
107 likesIs the rest of the interogation out?
39 likesHe will be out on parole by 2035 bet!
45 likesDamn only 40, after that brutal murder. Most people in FL who get convicted of a murder this brutal don't get this lucky. Should've got life or death but ill settle with 40 i guess.😒😒
134 likes@LikeaBoss 40 years at his age. Might as well be a life sentence.
121 likesThats it? and tayk got 55 smh
9 likesGOOD!!
3 likesOnce you know you’re guilty it cuts 60 years off your sentence to show remorse
8 likesRolled and smoked
1 likeSpoilers!
1 likeMaybe we should get that for drunk deiver murderers? Smdh
3 likesShould have been longer. Or an eye for an eye if you want to murder someone in my opinion.
6 likesLaws should change. No reason to be kept alive, when the girl is dead forever and the family destroyed. It s not justice. And no, prison is not better than death. If it was everyone would ask for it and no reason for lawyers and trials
9 likesThat ain’t shit
1 likeThat’s ridiculous…he took her LIFE!
4 likesLet's hope his prediction comes true.
3 likesHe will suffer every time he wakes up from a dream and realizes he’s in prison
10 likes@So Cat Prison is way worse than death
7 likesSoo he'll be 71 when he gets out, if he gets out alive lol
5 likes@Killerseed He will be credited the 3 years leading up to the trial. So he will be 68
6 likesWell he took a life, it's amazing that he still might have the chance to get out old
2 likes@Cady Mills do the race
0 likes@Jerrod Butali facts. Lawyer wouldve stopped him from sayin she got out n into a truck
1 likeDid he get 40 years kid ha
0 likes@Dr.Hasbullita Won't he have to do at least 85% of that 40 in Florida?
2 likes@Bull Cat think that's only federal charges .... If it was NYS he could go infront of the board after 15. Not sure of different states
0 likesThx for this!
1 like@Cole Holden if it's just a personal opinion, i get it and respect it. But if it's cause you believe in god and the bible, etc... your in the wrong book.
1 like@Baku Free tayk
0 likes@Sage Wave depends on what death is. If it's back to dust and a dark dreamless sleep as the bible states, I might agree. If not, then idk 🤔
0 likes@Cory Fiegel nope, not accuarate. Not sure currently, but just a few years back, it was 80% to 85% if a violent crime, domestic crime, etc.. this is for the state of C.T. anyway at the time.
0 likesLike most murders, a stupid heat of the moment decision that ruins his life and more importantly ruined the lives of the victim and everyone who cared about her. I wish we put more importance and funding on prevention. If we taught conflict management in K-12, maybe people would have a slightly better idea how to prevent themselves or others from escalating to violence.
7 likesThis for example. What if he'd been taught how to handle this exact scenario. Really mad, arguing with someone, and it escalates to the point of having violent impulses. If he'd been trained to recognize this feeling and how to handle it, maybe she'd be alive and well today. Her parents would still have a daughter. He'd still have a normal life.
@Cory Fiegel ok. I had to Google it. Parole has been abolished in Florida. You must serve 85 % of sentence. You can earn 15% "good time. " You're better off with a life sentence where you can be released after 25 years. 40 years you have to do 34. They just passed a new law this year where you only have to serve 65 percent but I do t know if that is retroactive.
2 likesIt’s so sad
0 likesThanks
1 like@gertjan van der meij Why do you say so?
0 likesGood
1 like@Sage Wave you know from experience?
1 like@Dr.Hasbullita He's going to be happy bride inside, why to get out....
1 like@Gachabrain he’ll be 70yo. It’s indeed a life sentence
1 like@CleverTaco Im not religious, Just think If you kill someone you should suffer the same fate.
0 likesOuttta herrrre
0 likes@darrenleaguecity I’ve been in jail before. I’d rather be dead.
0 likesAaaaaaaaaaaaaaand......thank you.
1 like@Post Tenebras Lux I’m really hoge, what did Mx say again
0 likes@LikeaBoss In sweden you get less than 10 years. just over a year for throwing a grande into a familys home and blowing up their living room.
0 likes@LikeaBoss In Sweden he would get 18 years at worst but probably 10 and out after 5. So 40 in my book is a good sentence
0 likes@LikeaBoss why brutal broken neck is one of fastest Lol he should get max 30years
0 likesOut after 20 for good behaviour..
0 likes@CleverTaco My friend the Bible doesn't say you go to a dark dreamless sleep. It says the Dead know nothing. Which in the context makes sense. But we will ALL come before God
0 likes@Cady Mills thanks a lot for sharing infos
1 like@So Cat Laws should change. To point on rehabilitation and reintegration into society
0 likes@Erik why
0 likesI would prefer life in prison ... But 40 is good enough....
1 likeOne thing I like about the US is that they dish out proper sentences.
0 likesHe'd get 7 years in the UK
@Super Sharp Shooter How old is he? He doesn't look that old.
0 likesHELL YEAH
0 likes@Bull Cat
0 likesHoly crap, my eyes went 😳 when I read "parole has been abolished in Florida."
Bruh spoilers
1 likeNot enough
1 like@Baku fr free tay k i need music im struggling without fire music
0 likes@Dr.Hasbullita lol what is he not already out on the street? shocked if he isn’t especially with these democrat policies.
0 likes@lightfeather Thanks for bringing this up. There's so much that can go into education that helps individuals and society in turn.
1 like@Baku I mean tay k was kind of a menace to society. I don't get why people wanted dude free when he legit was laying down the innocent he deserved life too. Making good music isn't a reason to want him free because if he was just some random dude everyone would want him in prison for life.
1 likeLol good for him
1 like@Jessie! Yeah. You don't wanna mess up in Florida.
0 likes@lightfeather There is no training for that.
0 likesLee tortured Savannah as well, right? 40 years for a torture-murder? That's comforting.
0 likes@EmanTheHeman not necessarily
0 likesfree, just less time, he was a kid.
thank you!
0 likesWelcome to the jungle!
0 likes@Melatonin you see I was making something called "a joke"
0 likesi feel like everything he said about what happened in the car is true, also I feel like she did continuingly slap him NOW! i feel like they were arguing and she was pissed(rightfully so) and she was like no bitch you not gonna use me and now act like nothing happened because you worried about your job hell yeah I'm telling everybody we slept together. then that's when she was trying to get out of the car and he kept pulling her back and she started fighting and he choked her out. now do I believe it was an accident I mean it could have been shes swinging on him he grab ger by the neck trying to push her off and because of them being in the backseat of a car the back of her head hit the door and her neck snaps. BUT if that was the case he should have just told the truth from the beginning (this is what happened and this is what I did) I mean you're still going to jail but a good lawyer could possibly argue everything happened in the heat of the moment he was in shock wasn't thinking straight blah blah blah. but the fact that he made up that ridiculous story about the green truck went on and on painting her out to be the bad guy and him the victim is complete crap
0 likes25:50 - dunno about you but I found that very poor from the women, she let her own emotions take over and went on a ramble giving him time to think. She should have said they have proof then both waited in silence to see his response. In fact from this moment on I thought she was pretty unprofessional. Just let her emotions dictate her. I think a calm approach is much more effective at getting him to confess, especially as they already have the evidence.
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She's playing an act. During one of her emotional pleadings the male detective interrupted her and she so gently tappes him with her foot. He immidiately stops talking, leans back and she continues. Watch 29:45 It was all rehearsed beforehand.
0 likesI know what you said about the interrogation about saying a few sentences but you didn’t listen to the clue that he said he’s on Adderall and this is what he sounds like during this interview I’m not defending him but this is what he sounds like and giving such a long crazy answer
0 likes"How long have you known Savannah?"
4 likes"It all started the day of my birth. You see, my mother decided against vaginal birth and instead..."
His biggest mistake, he didn't ask for a coke
14359 likesReplies (174)
Oof
103 likesLol
34 likesThis is Jeff
527 likesHe didn't even get a chance at a Butterfingers
601 likesjeff is a legend
348 likesNeither did he stare into the Detective's soul.
282 likes@4R I understood that reference
91 likes"How long were you waiting to make that comment?"
271 likes"A loooooooooooong time buddy"
Jeff said it right to Police "Your not my Friend"
124 likes@jacob gutierrez ..
4 likesLmfao I see this coke reference all over the comment section who is the dude who asked for the coke so I can watch his interrogation
52 likesOpinionated Kraken Troll — The legend of Jeff!!
42 likesAhhh I found the Legendary Jeff! Thank you. That man understands his rights and didn’t play into the games of the judicial system ☄️
74 likesProbably does enjoy coke...but I guess the wrong kind so....
21 likesHe's no bad santa for sure
22 likesBrooooooo funny AF
8 likes@Power Moves Please explain what ya talking about or give me a link? Please?
6 likesOpinionated Kraken Troll
5 likesI’m pretty sure it’s The Legend of Jeff.
Opinionated Kraken Troll
6 likesIt’s a reference to The Legend of Jeff. Enjoy!😎🥤
😂😂😂😂
1 likePretty sure it was filling out that application at Bonefish
2 likesThat was the biggest lesson I learned from this channel
3 likes@3Vimages The Legend of "Jeff" video on this channel. 😎
4 likes@Chillin' with Dylan Got it .... ta dude.
1 like@Hunner Smits I know what you understood.. :D
0 likesAt least he didn't ask for a diet coke...
1 likeHahaha. Right!? There goes his chance at working for Coke a cola with Jeff!
4 likesjust came here from that video💀
1 likeAnd McDonald’s.
0 likesI died when I say this comment
0 likesHahahahaha 😂🤣😂🤣😂
1 likeHe ain’t no Jeff. Jeff s a pro
7 likesThat's how you know he's a noob :)
0 likesOpinionated Kraken Troll Jeff the Coce Men was Heroin addicted but innocent
2 likes🤣🤣🤣Only a JCS Criminal Psychology viewer would get that🤣🤣🤣
5 likesFirst thing I'm asking for if I ever get questioned... I want a coke.....and a lawyer.
6 likesOpinionated Kraken Troll Jeff
0 likes@G. Shrewsbury Coke, Butter Finger, Lawyer in that order
7 likessmart....!!! soo so the adderal in his system re+kicks in
0 likesThis comment led me to the legend that is Jeff.
4 likesActual LOL 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
1 likeJeff is my friend
0 likesLol
0 likesOmfg i love that i just came from that video stfu
0 likesHe could’ve had 4 cokes, what a missed opportunity
3 likesCass gymt
0 likesThe fact I know you're talking about Jeff means I've spent too long on this channel
5 likesTouche gg lmmfao
0 likesOr even better, multiple Cokes.
0 likesTHE LEGEND OF JEFF
2 likes@भक्ति legend has it that he still asks for a Coke to this very day.
1 like😜 🥤
0 likes👑
0 likesDamn
0 likesHe also didn't stop talking once they said you have the right to remain silent.
0 likesHaha mystical josh
0 likes@Bricks Bideos Looooool. Looooool. Lol
0 likesMistakes of Lee Rodarte in order of magnitude:
3 likes1. Not asking for Coke
2. Murder
JEFF
0 likesU must mean diet coke?
2 likesThat’s how Jeff beat the rap
0 likes@Jenn who's Jeff?
0 likesWam, bam, thanks for the coke, put me back in the cell.
10 likesHunter Smith yup
0 likes@Mike Jones who?
0 likesWham. Bam. Thank you for the coke. Put me back in the cell.
1 likeShut Jeff! Not everbody is that smart.
0 likesLmao!!! Yes, Jeff, the legend! 😆😆 I am so happy I get this reference! Lol!
0 likesAre u Jeff
0 likesOr a butterfinger
0 likesPepsi
1 likeAll I wanted was a Pepsi
Meh name is Jeff...
1 likeOmg. Blah blah blah... What a bad liar
0 likesJeff!!!!! A legend
0 likes@GBH and she wouldn't give it to me,just want pepsi
0 likeswas thinking that lol
0 likesMy name is Jeff.
0 likesHahaha Jeff was smart 🤓
0 likesThat's what I thought when he asked for water lol
0 likesLmao I just watched that video before coming here
0 likesGetting a cola is like a cop saying enjoy this last sugary goodness
0 likesmy boy jefff🤣🤣💯💯
0 likesReal fans knows
0 likesAlso Jeff approves 🤣
our jeff boy ayoo
0 likesOpinionated Kraken Troll can you link it please? I’m intrigued!
0 likesMannnnnn you hit the nail right on the head☠️☠️☠️
0 likesjeff is my king
0 likesMy name is Dyepp
0 likesSHJT
0 likesJefff
0 likesI dont get it :(
0 likes@3Vimages look up the legend of jeff on YouTube
0 likesMy priority would be to secure the Butterfinger first, for Jeff’s sake.
0 likesLOL OMG
0 likesHe did ask, but it was just a fairy tale.
1 likeDamn skippy
0 likes@Bricks Bideos 🤣🤣🤣
0 likesBro I was wondering where the coke was
0 likesJeff for president and coca cola next to him
1 likeIt’s not “legend of Jeff”.... it’s “the legendary Jeff”
0 likesOr a butterfinger
1 likeJeff, the legend...
0 likesLmfao... Nailed it
0 likes@Jeff Rock JEFF??????
0 likes🤣🤣
0 likes@4R 😂
0 likesThis is Jeff's bro...He dosen't do Coke....
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesHunter Smith
1 likethat was only his second biggest mistake...
c'mon, ya had a chance to be funny and accurate.
what a shame.
DropHammer77 who is Jeff?
0 likesThat's the video I watched before this one
0 likes@Rachel VillarimYt channel " JCS Criminal psychology "
0 likesHas a video of Jeff being interrogated...
Jeff is legendary...Jeff likes Cokacola....
Haha such a staple of the comment sections on his channel
0 likesI just think it's kind of funny a good chunk of these are florida..
It's a shit show down there
My name’a Jeff
0 likes@Neco Velli and you want a coke...
1 likeWas thinking the same thing lmao.
0 likesthis is the stupidest thing i have ever heard.......dr pepper all the way.
0 likes4R I don’t know
0 likesWham Bam, put me back in the cell
0 likesOnly true fans of this channel will get this reference 👌🏼
0 likesThat was in the edited out section.
0 likesI see what you did here... I like it.
0 likesJeff would like your comment
0 likesHe should have had a deal signed by the judge and DA garunteeing him a cigarette 2 times a day. Full confession for cigarettes
0 likesAhhahahahaahahhahaa my ninjjaaa
0 likesDid you eat already?
0 likesOr a butterfinger
0 likesPress F for Jeff
0 likesYou’re here after “Jeff” lol
1 likeAaaaahhhhhaaaaaa thats fucking hilarious
0 likesDoes anybody know why he killed her? Why? She tried to leave the car, why didn’t he let her get out of the car? What the hell was going on?
0 likesJeff is with us.
0 likes@Bricks Bideos HAHAHA
0 likesAll he wanted was one pepsi just one pepsi
0 likes“Wam Bam!”
0 likeshahahah Jeff is a LEGEND
0 likes@Whoops right? I showed that one to my teenage daughter and we love Jeff!
1 like@Mike Zilla 3. Not asking for Methadone, and thereby implying the interrogators are going to have a real problem on their hands in 3,2,1...lol
1 like@Matthew Black HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
0 likesCoke and a butterfinger. Jeff's a legend.
0 likes@wadi gaji lol
0 likesHe also didn't just shut up.
0 likesJeff the legend lmao 😂 2021
0 likesAre there any Black suspects on this channel?
0 likesCoke is not good for health
0 likesYou saw that epic episode bro
0 likes@Jenn no this is Patrick
0 likesjeff 💃
0 likesHis big mistake is not having Jesus Christ in his life
0 likes@Whoops this is jeff from same channel of video
0 likesJust came from this video
0 likesOr a butterfinger
0 likes😆😆😆
0 likes@Hunner Smits what's the reference? Something from the legend of Jeff?
0 likesgot me good
0 likesWhat about that butterfinger you promised me???
0 likesJeff...
Lmao 🤣 true shit
0 likesLmfao
0 likesThey want you to have a drink and can get the DNA off the bottle or cup if you leave it or throw it away?
0 likesOr a Butterfinger
0 likes@Whoops It’s called The Legend of “Jeff”
1 like"wham bam thank you for the coke put me back in that cell"
1 likeI've never seen a sentence so greatly formed
or butterfingers 🤣
0 likesWham bam thank you for the coke, put me back in a cell 😂😂
2 likes@भक्ति righttt
0 likesWhere's that fucking butterfinger?
0 likesu mean the attorney?
0 likesThe legend of Jeff. :D
0 likesWhy would he ask for cocaine from police detectives during questioning?
0 likesJeff: You trying to play good cop?
0 likesOfficer: No, I'm usually the prick..
Jeff: Yea, you look like a prick...
You win the internet with a Jeff reference.
2 likes@GBH and she wouldn't give it to me :(
0 likesIn a world of Lees, be a Jeff.
0 likesJeff is a god damn LEGEND!
0 likesGod I would confess just to get away from the woman detectives voice lmao
2 likesDetective: “So how long have you known Savannah?”
8054 likesLee: “long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the fire nation attacked. Only the avatar, master of all four elements could stop them. But when the world needed him most, he vanished. 100 years past and…”
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"A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Avatar, an airbender named Aang, and although his airbending skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe Aang can save the world."
325 likesIt was the adderall
151 likesLOL
11 likes@Jason Roberts 😂😂💀
11 likesOmfggg lmfaooo u are so hilarious 😂 😃 😄. Made my life with this comment lol 😆 🤣
21 likeslollll amazing😂
19 likesand now I want to watch Avatar again
The avatar is a trait for all normal humans We just have to be brave enough. That’s the only thing between us and “the avatar”. Or “Superman” or Jesus.
5 likes🤣
3 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
4 likes@Jason Roberts
8 likes"My bad, then. You can go, Holmes."
😂😂
1 likeLMAO!!!!
2 likesHaha. that’s good. Quite entertaining 👍🏻
2 likesDeadddd
1 like:)))
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesI can hear the Soundtrack fade in.
9 likes😂😂😂
1 likeHilarious. You mentioned something that people know. Hahahahaha references. I remember shows and them having dialog
5 likesSounds like he would have gotten along very well with Kurt Eichenwald.
0 likes@AltheaTheKnightPAAAAA PAA PAA PAAAAA
1 like@PikethaMike you sound like you are fun at parties
7 likes@AltheaTheKnight I’m watching avatar now lol
1 like@OBIDEN I was actually rewatching it for the 100x when I commented omg. Ngl it's still great
2 likesROFLMAO
1 likeLmao
1 like@Dr Zambie it’s on Netflix now last airbender and legend of Korra
1 likeAhahahahahahaha omg 🤣🤣
0 likes@Japheth Japheth yes! ty :D
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣💯💯
0 likesLol!
0 likes@AltheaTheKnight …and the Airbender said “can we do drugs and have sex?’’ But I said, “oh, no…no…no…this cannot be done for I am your superior and this would be wrong…the Gods would be distraught…”
0 likesPMSL 😆
0 likes@ovuvuevuevue enyetuenwuevue ugbemugbem osas you think any murder victim would laugh at a joke? They’re dead
4 likes@Tony Arcieri oh youre so edgy. but you know what. ... playing dumb isnt edgy
0 likes@Jason Roberts it does make you cattery
1 likeLol!!
0 likesA better one would be "It all started when I was born..."
3 likesFor a second I thought you were gonna talk about the intro into Origins
0 likes@Jason Roberts facts lol
0 likes😂😂
0 likes@Japheth Japheth I just checked and no
0 likes@MinniePooh not sure what country you’re in but I’m watching the last airbender right now!
0 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Japheth Japheth I'm in Croatia and of course we have to be last at everything 😭😭
0 likesYou have to stop lol.
1 likeEpic
0 likesI hear the music playing in my head as I read this. Haha that was great
1 likeIf I'm ever interrogated, that's going to be my response to all the questions. 🤣👍🏼
1 likeLmaooo nahh that’s funny 😂😂😭
0 likes😂 😂
0 likesWhat
0 likes"Long before time had a name, Ninjago was created by the First Spinjitzu Master, using the Four Weapons of Spinjitzu. The Scythe of Quakes, the Nunchucks of Lightning, the Shurikens of Ice and the Sword of Fire. Weapons so powerful, no one can handle all of their power at once!"
0 likesi love u 😭
0 likesadderall: the last airbender
0 likesAdderall makes you talk
0 likeslmao
0 likesI just clicked on "How pretending to be crazy looks like" two weeks ago and I've been on loop ever since. This channel is brilliant. Also I'm now very aware of everything and everyone everywhere I go.
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LOWKEY SAME
40 likesLol me too
13 likesWelcome to psychology! XD It's hard to switch off. Lolol
28 likesI forgot what started me in the rabbit hole of JCS - that was the video!! Pretending to be crazy! Kudos to you YouTube, also, unrelated note, does anyone know what a healthy sleep cycle looks like
34 likesSAME!!!!
6 likesGotta always be aware of your surroundings not even in a paranoid way but just keepin stuff in note around you is a good habit to make
21 likesSame, that was the best suggestion ever, I think I got that video in my recommended Bc I watch audit the audit which this guy also does
9 likeswelcome to the club !!!
5 likesSame. Lol
3 likesOnly started this morning from South Africa 😅🥺
5 likesYup
1 likeSame yo
1 likeLol it was that exact video that started it all
4 likesLol 💯
2 likesSAME!!! 😂😂
2 likesSame but that was like 2 months ago
2 likesThat's exactly the video I clicked on, roughly . . . oh, I'd say somewhere between three and seven hours ago, it's hard to tell time in a rabbit hole.
2 likesI seen that one too 😆 I think it was the legend of Jeff that got me hooked
1 likeSame here
3 likessaaame
1 likeYoutube brought me down the same route from that video 🤣
2 likesShttt me too hahahaha
1 likeHoly shit that how got trapped here too
2 likesSomeone needs to make a YouTube algorithm legend Playlist, the videos that started the most people down rabbit holes.
2 likesSame here🤣🤣
0 likesYup same here, that exact video was on my recommended on my homepage for weeks too before I eventually gave in and clicked... now look at me!
3 likesSame here
2 likesme too 😁
2 likesIt's the demons man i swear
0 likesMe too
0 likesHe needs more videos 😭
0 likesOMG The same thing happened to me! It's also kind of amazing how the algorithm brings people together!
0 likes@Joseph Douglas that's a great idea!
0 likesomg same lol
0 likesDid everyone watch that video first? Cause i did the same
0 likessame, and now im taking two psych classes, a forensics class and switching my major to anthropology and thinking about minoring in psych because of this channel.
1 likeAs long as you’re not making uniformed opinions based on shallow observations, there’s so much more to human psychology, you have to know a lot to realize you don’t know even know the half of it.
1 likeThat's the first video I watched 2
1 likeI need more. Why isn’t there more?? 😫
1 likeSAME
0 likesSame lol
0 likescoworker asks if you want to get a drink after work
1 likeWhole SWAT team waiting for them as you clock out 😂 I ain’t trustin no one now lmfao
Exactly how I found these vids! How awesome is this channel!
0 likesMe... 45! I can't stop watching!
0 likesSame
0 likesexactly the same
0 likesHes deleted some! Like the one with jussie smollet
2 likesThat was literally the same for me. How are these so addictive!?
1 likeI guess it is something that we never see. We only ever see little bits or news reports.
@Momo really? i had no idea. it's a pity.
0 likes@Ana Carolina yes he also had one about Prince Andrew thats gone
1 likeSame!
1 likesame here
1 likeLmaoooo saaaaame.!!!
1 likeliterally the same video tho like what the actual fck
0 likesSame
2 likesOMG EXACT SAME
1 likeExactly the same with me
1 likeSAME I LOVE IT HERE
1 likeI DID THE EXACT FUCKING THING
1 likelmao me too tho
0 likesSAME, everyone has intentions!
0 likesdude same, i watch these to pass time at work
0 likes@random.ars0nist_ nahhh hight key
0 likesHah, I began my journey 3 days ago and it's been going great, ever since 😃😆🤯
1 likeThese two detectives are the most expertly manipulative parents I've ever seen.
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I knew the whole thing reminded me of Something!
271 likesThats exactly what it felt like!! It worked on this guy too because he appeared to have a rough childhood and was clearly lost.
248 likesAre you suggesting that those detectives are husband and wife and they are interogating their son at a police station?
68 likes@Rob Boss No, I am not suggesting that.
180 likes@Jimmy Donlon lol. You fell for that
19 likes@KayAteChef have a sense of humour? No? So F off
11 likesdid you notice how they hung the handcuffs on the door knob of the interrogation room?
63 likes@Rob Boss who shit in your cereal?
68 likes@Reclaimer Alex Jones
32 likes@Rob Boss 😂😂😂
5 likes@Нева 47 6y5 guy 66ytg
0 likesHim with the papillon 😆😆
1 like@Reclaimer i dont eat cereal. There is slight chance that you saw a turd in yours.
2 likes@charutha she is seriously getting up my nerves, cause it hits close to home
8 likes@Rob Boss it was just a horrible and extremely unfunny joke, excuted bad.
14 likesShe honestly looks like she's going hysterical for no reason and her coworker has to make up for it
30 likes@V Vey I agree. The other detective tries to divert from what she’s doing sometimes. Maybe she’s trying to play on his emotion because she’s a woman and a mother, but it’s definitely too much and looks fake. I’d be annoyed with her, guilty or not.
31 likes@That's On Y O U which one?
0 likesI know. The calm, direct father and the overly emotional mom. 😆
13 likes@Joe Maggi wow. He’s a horrible killer and you are focusing on the female cop. Sicko
22 likes@Jojomojo wtf?
6 likesI started to think they might be together because they looked like a perfect couple.
2 likes@charutha I think she broke him, at first I thought she was losing control and throwing the interview but I think she got to him.
26 likes@samra Easier said than done. It was deliberate, and they got him to confess.
7 likesRob Boss lol lol good move lol
0 likes@charutha The female detective just seemed more annoying than motherly.
1 like@charutha she was good, but I felt a little TOO forceful, unlike Tammy Lee. I'm innocent and she scared me, lol.
3 likes@KayAteChef thanks ig
0 likes@Rob Boss b
0 likesInterrogator: So, how long do you know Savannah?
2947 likesLee: Quantum mechanics is a fundamental theory in physics that provides a description of the physical properties of nature at the scale of atoms and subatomic particles. It is the foundation of all quantum physics including quantum chemistry, quantum field theory, quantum technology, and quantum information science. Classical physics, the description of physics that existed before the theory of relativity and quantum mechanics, describes many aspects of nature at an ordinary (macroscopic) scale, while quantum mechanics explains the aspects of nature at small (atomic and subatomic) scales, for which classical mechanics is insufficient. Most theories in classical physics can be derived from quantum mechanics as an approximation valid at large (macroscopic) scale. Quantum mechanics differs from classical physics in that energy, momentum, angular momentum, and other quantities of a bound system are restricted to discrete values (quantization), objects have characteristics of both particles and waves (wave-particle duality), and there are limits to how accurately the value of a physical quantity can be predicted prior to its measurement, given a complete set of initial conditions (the uncertainty principle). Quantum mechanics arose gradually from theories to explain observations which could not be reconciled with classical physics, such as Max Planck's solution in 1900 to the black-body radiation problem, and the correspondence between energy and frequency in Albert Einstein's 1905 paper which explained the photoelectric effect. These early attempts to understand microscopic phenomena, now known as the "old quantum theory", led to the full development of quantum mechanics in the mid-1920s by Niels Bohr, Erwin Schrödinger, Werner Heisenberg, Max Born and others. The modern theory is formulated in various specially developed mathematical formalisms. In one of them, a mathematical entity called the wave function provides information, in the form of probability amplitudes, about what measurements of a particle's energy, momentum, and other physical properties may yield.
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Respect for the effort bro
92 likesZzzzzz
15 likeslol... I truly enjoyed that comment<3 @Jodu<3
26 likes@annie sebastian it was a copy paste lol not that much of an effort
35 likes@Zak Smith are you mad because you didn't understand.... too many big words?
28 likes@Siggy Buttbrain yeah
0 likesLMAOOOOOO the fact it took 6 minutes for me to read this all 😂😂😂😂😂😂
4 likesIn other words he know but acts like he doesn’t know 😂
3 likesThank you, I learned a lot about quantum mechanics today :D
12 likesWhat the actual frick bro
0 likesthats wxactly what i was about to say lol beatme to it
1 likeArt
2 likesI’m literally pissing my pants💀💀💀this comment needs to be pinned
6 likeslmfaooo
0 likes@annie sebastian the best comment :X
1 like🤣🤣
0 likeslmao
0 likesfr
0 likesGuilty
0 likeslmao
0 likesIt’s was all that adderall lmao
0 likes@Business Of Seyy physics is hard,yo LMAOOOOOOOOO. itll take me even longer
0 likesButterflies are insects in the macrolepidopteran clade Rhopalocera from the order Lepidoptera, which also includes moths. Adult butterflies have large, often brightly coloured wings, and conspicuous, fluttering flight. The group comprises the large superfamily Papilionoidea, which contains at least one former group, the skippers (formerly the superfamily "Hesperioidea"), and the most recent analyses suggest it also contains the moth-butterflies (formerly the superfamily "Hedyloidea"). Butterfly fossils date to the Paleocene, about 56 million years ago.
2 likesLol
0 likeswhere'd u cut and paste that from?
1 likeI don't get it
0 likes@Eulanze Joubert he's pointing to the fact that Lee gave a very long answer to a very simple question. Not Not good sign.
0 likesI'd say his over the top hand gestures, and admitting that he lied to them yesterday aren't great signs either.
when I was a boy in Bulgaria
1 likeLorem Ipsum mode xd
0 likesWho’s actually gonna read all that shit?
0 likesIt's interesting how much quantum mechanics actually influenced the world before it was even officially coined. Scientists like Einstein inadvertently used it on a fundamental level, without fully realizing what he was playing around with.
1 likeLMAO
0 likes@Jordan Francis more like it's hard to read because there's no paragraph breaks due to the same reason it was just copy pasted. Coming from someone who's double majoring in math and physics
0 likesThis cake recipe didn’t work.
0 likes@Ex Tempetus coming from someone who is studying theoretical physics, it would be hard if there was no fullstops, nor paragraphs but whatever dude
0 likes@Ex Tempetus also who says studying physics, tend to disbelieve that, what physics are you studying....
0 likesThe only thing I disagree with is that innocent people wouldn't fear the interrogation process.... I feel guilty and scared the moment someone suspects me of something. I wouldn't say that's an unusual response.
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What are you guilty of? 😳
103 likes@Hayden Allen Ahh, you're doing it to me now😱
399 likes@Riot Grrrl Where were you the morning of May 27 2021 at around 10:41 AM?
195 likesAbsolute same! Theres always the fear of being wrongly accused of something :,((( and what if I say something that might incriminate but in reality I'm just a dumdum who says dumdum things
287 likes@Xavi I don't know anymore😥
90 likesThat must mean I'm guilty.
Jokes aside, I might be the perfect candidate for these experiments where they plant memories into "suspects" so they confess to crimes they never did. It's a real thing and kind of worrying that suggestion can do that.
@exoploring Exactly.
7 likes@Riot Grrrl Now that sounds scary, wouldn't wanna be on the tail-end of that!
6 likes@Xavi Well, you would consent to an experiment like this first. But I agree, we need to be very careful about the way we question suspects.
8 likesYou're also afraid of the possibility that people won't believe you.
40 likesIt's always a possibility that you'll be accused and your innocence not recognized. Happens all the time, if in personal situations or criminal investigations.
@exoploring yep all of us dumdums our here being convicted for nothing 😔
5 likesI also disagree with another thing, the narrator says that like innocent people answer short and guilty people talk long with a lot of detail. But also, and I’m not at all saying that he is innocent because of course not, he had taken ADHD medicine and that can also make you ramble like that imo
17 likesAgreed, people get nervous when they get pulled over for minor traffic offences, could only imagine throwing them in a tiny room and accusing them of murder.
10 likesSame lmao I be feeling guilty for shit I don’t even do idk why
7 likesI feel guilty for shit I've not done too lmao.
4 likesSame. I would be paranoid that they were about to pin something on me.
7 likesIt's nice to see I'm not alone😇
4 likesWhen I talk to a confrontational person, especially if it’s someone I know or “should” be kind, I choke up when I try to talk, though I will try to talk more than usual.
2 likesThis "commonly believed" bullshit is probably responsible for sending tons of innocent people to prison.
6 likes@Xavi I DONT KNOE
0 likesYou kinda sus bro
1 likeThese people think they have everyone all figured out. It has been proven that some techniques can get people to falsely confess.
4 likesyou will be aggressively defending when you are innocent and are being framed.
3 likesAny sort of confrontation makes me nervous to the point of being ill, crying, shaking, fidgeting, rambling/going off topic, not looking people in the eyes, quickly changing emotions, random yelling and anger, hyperfixation and hyperventilation.
9 likesI think we all think this until we're innocent and bring interrogated. I doubt most people would act like this guy if they were innocent despite thinking we would
3 likesand guilty ones sometimes don't fear ot.. think of jodi 👩🏻🎤🤸🏻♀️🎶
0 likesi get so scared of airport security even tho i know i don’t have anything on me, i can’t imagine how scared i’d be during an interrogation.
4 likesI remember something from when I was a kid. We had to switch places in class for something, I don't remember what. And at the end of class, one girl found one of her stuff broken, I don't remember what it was, maybe a pencil or a ruler. So the teacher took out the three kids who had been working on her desk during class that day. I was one of them. She made us sit on a bench and made eye contact with us in silence during a few minutes until she should see which one of us was guilty. The boy was looking at her right in the eyes, he was a very honest kid. The girl was completely avoiding her eyes. I was able to watch her in the eyes for a few seconds but she looked so angry that I couldn't stand her gaze. Now of course the girl was responsible, it was easy to tell. There is a difference between real shame and intimidation, I hope all cops can tell like my teacher could. Even though I was feeling bad and afraid, I was not feeling guilt, and the way I acted was different from the way the other girl acted.
0 likes@Utkarsh Gupta I mean I’ve never been accused of murder 😂, but I remember when I would used to get in trouble as a kid and sometimes I would get punished for stuff I never even did. Like I would look super sus even though I didn’t do anything. I wouldn’t even say anything because I felt that I would look so stupid if I said I didn’t do it because it seemed so obvious that I did do it.
2 likesI know that’s super different, but like there are cases where people say they committed a crime and turns out that they didn’t. So I can sort of get it in a way.
Admit it...you're the Zodiac killer....ADMIT IT!
1 likeGet a lawyer the moment police start asking you questions, that's all I can say. Innocent people want and appreciate the help and knowing they are innocent, don't care how that request will be perceived.
2 likesme too
1 like@Pekk 😥
0 likes@Noah Kirschtein Ha, that's me too!
0 likes@LASHK001 True.
0 likesI agree!! I would be freaking out !! Haha and crying and pleading to let me go. I would probably look soooo guilty and be thrown into prison 😂 because I’m a dum dum too
2 likes@Riot Grrrl
3 likesI agree with you.
I’ve seen enough cop shows (and had one personal experience) to know that when they’re interrogating you they’ve already decided that you’re guilty. When they tell you that you have the right to remain silent and that you can have a lawyer, ask for a lawyer and then clam up. The detective is not your friend. He tries to build a rapport with you so you’ll relax a little and say something that they can use against you.
The personal experience I mentioned was when I was accused of stealing $300.00 from a place I worked. I can only imagine how much scarier it would have been if I was accused of murder. I knew I hadn’t taken the money and I was pretty sure I knew who did. I told the detective who I thought it was and he just kept coming at me with insults and accusations. I finally told him that I’d been cooperative with him but he had shown me no consideration and that he should either arrest me or stop with the third degree. I never heard from him again after that. As far as I know they never even checked the other guy out although there’s no reason to assume that I’d know if they had. But I never heard anything about him being questioned and to this day those people think that I stole money from them.
@Vlad the Impala I'm sorry about that. Thanks for sharing.
1 likeThis is part of the reason there are so many people that are wrongfully convicted. Very sad
2 likes@exoploring never ever talk to cops; always ALWAYS always get a lawyer, especially if you're innocent. period. NOTHING ELSE FOLLOWS///////
5 likesespecially when for whatever reason you're more likely to be wrongfully convicted
0 likesUsually, when people are lying they're calmer, because they not only want to look innocent, but also had time to prepare for the likes of the questions they get. When someone is innocent, but is falsely accused they usually will be nervous and loud, because they were caught off guard and really annoyed. They want to get out of the situation as fast as possible and are really annoyed, because they told the truth and it looks like nobody believes them. This is why their answers could be quick and short, because they want to get over with it fast and also aren't prepared to hold a whole speech about their lives. Maybe they would tell more information, but only what they see to prove their point. Of course everyone is different and it depends on the personality.
1 likeVERY unusual.
0 likes@OhighO Skater
2 likesI know some people are wrongly convicted. I hope it’s not a lot of people but I think one way that we could cut down on that is if it was found that the police were at fault there would be consequences. If it was just a mistake the consequences could be fairly light because we all make mistakes but if they carelessly closed the case just because they were in a hurry or worse, deliberately framed someone, then the consequences should be severe. Also if someone falsely accuses someone then the accuser should be subject to the same penalty that they tried to inflict on someone else.
I feel guilty anytime a cop talks to me
1 likePlus I think it’s justifiable to an extent to feel the need to be very detailed when asked in interrogation. Even if you aren’t guilty, you still want to prove that and giving short answers may not seem like the best idea
4 likes@Frey Venus YES
1 like@Silvia Senka True, also I've always heard the opposite (even in psychology classes). People telling a true story give details, liars are rather brief.
0 likes100%. My older brother once confessed to a crime he did not commit. A dog was hit by a car and a neighbor kid who disliked us blamed my brother (who didn't know how to drive or own a car). Some shitty detectives will break you down to the point where you'll say anything to get out of that room. Its not always about finding the guilty as much as them finding someone/anyone to be charged and convicted. My brother had emotional problems and left the police station shell shocked. He was let off only because the kid who lied kept changing his story.
2 likesMan im black, id be defensive cause id think they’re trying to pin me. Id be thinking of everything i did and how long it took me.
3 likesI once paid with an debitcart that wasnt covered. dont know how this could work. but yeah... somehow this 3 euro charge back led to an investigation of advanced wire fraud and i was questioned by the german kriminalpolizei (so a detective). She asked me how I was able to hack the biggest financial institution in germany. They had gained full acces to all my bankaccounts with a warrant. Some how my basic knowledge as someone who is able to fix printers led to the assumption, that I was able to manipulate the accounting of a bank. For 3 Euro Workinggloves.
1 likeIn the end I promissed, that I would go directly to the store and pay them their money. The state attorney dissmissed the charge due to missing public intresst.
I realy want to know how much money that whole investigation cost. Stateattorney, the police detetive... probably 500 euros....
@emergcon Das tut mir leid.
1 likeWhat are you implying I did? lol, Of course you're right, I bet we all hate the inferred accusation of guilt in conversation. It's that "I'm a suspect" thing and it will generate reactions...also, maybe I did it! ha!
1 likeI agree so strongly, I know the idea that "if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear", but it's scary to be suspected of something so evil, especially considering how many people are locked up or worse all whilst being innocent.
2 likesSame tbh. I also have terrible memory and tend to overshare quite a bit when I'm nervous or anxious. So yeah I feel like if I ever become a witness/suspect of a crime at any point, I'd be fucked ahaha 😅
1 likeSame, I get extremely uncomfortable borderline anxious when someone claims something of theirs is missing when I've been in the same proximity.
3 likes@exoploring always get a lawyer! never talk to the police!
2 likes@Silvia Senka
0 likesThat’s understandable. You want to convince them that you’re innocent. But the more you say the more ammunition you give them to use against you. Your best bet is to say as little as possible. If they say that you have the right to remain silent and that if you choose to give up that right, anything you say can and will be used against you ... take it seriously. Don’t think “Oh well I’m innocent, I have nothing to hide. It’ll be fine.” You have the right to an attorney. Insist on it. It won’t be pleasant after that. They might leave you sitting in a room for a long time. They do that on purpose to make you feel like you’d do anything to get out of that room. They’re trying to wear you down. Also you having the right to remain silent doesn’t mean that they have to stop asking you questions. They’ll try to make you feel like you’re guilty of something. Even if it’s not the thing they’re grilling you about.
BUT
If it was me and someone was missing and I didn’t know if they were alive or dead and I knew something that might help them find the person I would tell them what I knew even if it wasn’t strategically the best thing for me. I’d want to help them find the person if there was a chance they were still alive. That’s not the time to be thinking about covering your own ass. If that’s the case though they probably won’t be playing games like making you sit in a room for a long time because they’ll be wanting to find the person ASAP.
@emergcon
0 likesWow! 😳 That’s quite a story! Are you German? Being in a foreign country would make it way more scary.
Yeah introvert people are like that most of the time since we don't know how to interact with other in situations like this and I'm introvert and my heart raises everytime my teacher or a principal announce that someone did something bad and here's what needs to happen or when I hear the police alarm from afar...I'm like was that me? Despite knowing I haven't done anything wrong...
0 likesrite? i'd be scared they won't believe me or something
0 likesYou are goddam right. The fear of being falsely accused, i feel you bro.
1 likeWell yeah even normal job interviews are nerve wrecking and you’re choosing to go there for yourself and it’s an opportunity.
1 likeSame, I have a lot of intense anxiety for absolutely nothing so being interrogated by the police would make me super nervous even if I had nothing to do with the crime.
1 likeSame
0 likesIm exactly the same. Like if I see a cop car driving behind me or I see security look at me for a moment while I'm shopping. Even tho I know I haven't done anything wrong I start to panic that I will get intotrouble. Idk if its an anxiety thing or what. But I can't even imagine what my anxiety would do if I was taken in for questioning. Like I tend to word vomit when I have anxiety plus I talk ALOT normally anyways. My husband likes to use throw line from justified "I love how you talk, using 40 words where 4 will suffice"
2 likesSo with my already natural tendency to talk alot on top if my anxiety and my stress induced word vomit I wouldn't be calm while getting questioned even if I didnt didn't anything wrong hell even if they were just asking me questions as a witness I'd have the same bad reaction
@Utkarsh Gupta not necessarily, this youtube channel has another video on wrongfully accused, it presents 2 different cases. One who gets angry and another who doesn't. It's very interesting. Check it out.
0 likesI agree. I feel like I would be scared even though I know I'm innocent for the simple fact that I think they wouldn't believe me. That would probably cause me to over analyze my responses and be way more in depth with explaining things. Being falsely accused of something is a big fear of mine for this reason. I know it's stupid to think that way, but I feel like I wouldn't be able to help being nervous in a situation like this. I've only been pulled over one time but I automatically went in to full panic mode before the cop even said anything. He just wanted to let me know my tail light wasn't working and I was over there deep breathing all nervous and anxious for no reason lol
2 likesCan't talk your way out of jail. Don't talk to cops. Get a lawyer. Especially if you're innocent.
0 likesOn a serious note, this channel does have some videos on wrongful conviction. Guilty until proven innocent and Jeff come to mind.
1 likeI agree. Bad detectives make people commit false confessions all the time. Everyone gets nervous when a cop gets behind them even when they've done nothing wrong, imagine what they can do when your in an interrogation room.
1 likeThis guys guilty no doubt, obviously.
I'm just saying.
Being scared and/or agitated doesn't mean you're guilty to be fair. If you know you weren't guilty and you tell the truth confidently, you'll be fine. Watch the video on this channel called "Guilty until proven innocent" for some great examples. Those people were innocent, they knew they were innocent, and they were very confident, albeit in different ways.
0 likesOne guy was very loud and clearly certain that it was not him, and was scared that it was being pinned on him. The other guy was trying to be helpful and behaved in a very reserved way, and was obviously, clearly innocent despite the extremely aggressive interrogation tactics. The thing they had in common is they weren't inventing stories, they weren't navigating through their own lies to come up with alibis, they weren't nervous. They were telling the truth and knew it.
@PaddyRoon7 I seen that. And I understand I'm just saying some cops will coerse people into false confessions with their power and techniques. And cause people to go to jail or prison for long periods of time. Alot of time the people end up sueing them for that too and getting Money compensation which I think is what that guy in the guilty video did.
0 likesNot all cops are like that but it's unfortunate that some are, and that's was nerve racking about it to me.
@exoploring and that's why nobody should ever speak to the police without advice of counsel
0 likesAlso innocent people get pinned all the time, and some people are even manipulated into confessing something they didn't do.
0 likesConsidering how absurdly corrupt cops are and how eager they are to get confessions and convictions over are else, it is not only normal, but should in fact be entirely expected that you should go into an interrogation afraid, because it doesn't mean jack shit if you're innocent.
0 likesDownload the Waze app
0 likesFor real. I got pulled over once in the middle of the night because I drifted off to sleep while driving and was so terrified they thought I was drunk that I couldn't even look at them. Perked right up when it happened though, so when they gave me a field sobriety test it was fine. They offered to drive me home and park my car in the locked police lot for me overnight and I took them up on it, and even on the ride home I couldn't look at them because of how embarrassed and scared I was. Those get brought up as signs of guilt all the time on this channel, if I ever get brought in for questioning I'm going right to jail.
0 likes@Riot Grrrl youd have a different reaction to the people who actually are lying.
0 likesThey have methods of identifying liars from nervous but innocent people.
Me too. I'd be scared to death that they weren't going to believe me or something. The whole situation would just scare the crap out of me.
0 likesI feel like if I was ever interviewed I'd talk their ears off, I naturally am a people pleaser and seek approval
0 likes2 words : Lawyer Up. That simple 👌
0 likes@exoploring Well the best thing to do in a police interrogation (whether ur guilty or innocent) is to just ask for a lawyer
0 likesAnd anybody who has already had the system fail them before.
0 likesSame. I think it scares me because I know how many innocent people have done time for crimes they never committed
0 likesTrue. I was once profiled & pulled over for no reason after dropping a relative off in a "rough" neighborhood in the middle of the day. The cop literally interrogated me about drugs & asked to search my car claiming I was acting "nervous", like I had something to hide, & had been driving over the lines which was lie. I was sober af with a clean driving record & everything valid. I told him I have anxiety to explain why I was visibly nervous. I've never sold or done drugs or crime in my life & had broken no laws but I was nervous. My voice was trembling & heart racing thinking he would harm or frame me. To get it over with I cooperated & let him search my car which was humiliating. He found nothing & let me go without even a ticket. Ironically....while profiling me, he pretended to be a friend the entire time, even commented that his wife also has anxiety to appear sympathetic. To this day I regret not refusing his search without a warrant. I may have "appeared" guilty of something to him but I wasn't.
0 likesIt is a different type of fear. It should be. The odds game says you are not likely to be in trouble, if you are innocent. Innocent people sure do get screwed, but more often than not, they don't.
0 likesThat’s why if you’re ever a suspect in interrogation, and you’re innocent, don’t talk to the police. Ask for an attorney, and nothing else.
0 likesi have adhd and a lot of "tells" for lying or guilt are just me being bored and trying to entertain myself so i can think clearly. a bland room with no stimuli besides the cops trying to get me to admit to a crime i didnt do, id be a wreck but its bc im neurodivergent not a criminal lol
0 likesTELL ME EVERYTHING YOU DID YESTERDAY AT 12 PM TO 9 PM DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT LEAVING ONE SMALL DETAIL.
0 likesThat only comes after getting falsely accused of something so many times.
0 likes@Inquisitor Generally that’s why you ask for lawyer
0 likesdon't worry the investigator will see that you are innocent
0 likesYep guilty dumdum here. Won't admit to a crime I didn't do, but I'm definitely talktative and fidgety with an authority figure.
0 likesLmao yeah I have a moderate-severe anxiety disorder and I would break down instantly even if innocent
0 likesI guess he would have meant most people?
0 likes@Super Fun Stick Our of curiosity, are you intro or extroverted?
0 likesI was interrogated about something I didn't do and reacted about the same. Getting interrogated can be so stressful, trying to remember insane details ("last year, at what hour did you talk to that person? What was the date?" Why would I remember that at the top of my head?) And the hopelessness of knowing that you did nothing wrong, yet not being trusted.
0 likesBut they did get the guy who did it. F**k him, I hope he never get out of jail :)
Its the same with me, and I am like that because in my upbringing nobody believed me, no matter how much I told the truth.
0 likes@Vlad the Impala Yeah, I am German so I know that our state attorneys always investigate for some crazy stuff. I went to a sit in in the entrance of the us airbase in frankfurt once. We where carried away by police officers. i was charged with "schwerer Landesfriedensbruch" - (major case of disturbing the peace of germany), resisting arrest, coercion (some drivers exiting the airbase had to use another exit), illegal entry of a military compound, trespassing on protected forgin grounds (like an embassy). I was 14. I send them a letter with a hand drawen picture, my dad paid a symbolic fine of 120 Deutsche Mark and all charges where dropped.
1 likeIn my experience at least for minor crimes germany is one of the few countries in the world where you are better of talking to the police and confessing something instead of hiring a lawyer and going to court. You pay a smal fine and the case is dismissed.
One last story because its so funy: I was riding my bike during a heavy rainfall. Slipped on the tracks of the tram and crashed head first into an old vw golf. Made a pretty big dent. The police was called. The owner didnt care much. But I was charged with causing a traffic accident with a human casulty. Forget anything I said about german laws being soft - that isnt true for traffic laws. They are hardcore - the result of every german driving as fast as posible anywhere.
I went to the intorigation. Explained my case. After 3 Minutes we switched to smalltalk. Case was dismissed.
Saved a thousand Euros.
@emergcon
0 likesYes I understand that they take driving very seriously in Germany. Too bad Americans don’t. We have drivers here who will drive below the speed limit and won’t get out of the fast lane. That doesn’t happen on the Autobahn. My cousins who grew up in Germany told me that if you’re going 100 mph on the Autobahn and you see a car getting larger in your rear view mirror you’d BETTER move over. I’ve also heard that Porsche doesn’t put cup holders in the cars they build for the domestic market because they don’t understand why anyone would be drinking anything (even coffee) while they’re driving. When you’re driving you’re supposed to be paying attention to what you’re doing, not relaxing with a refreshing beverage. 🥴 I understand that the roads in Germany are much better too, at least the Autobahn. I saw a television show about it one time and a guy said that you haven’t lived until you’ve driven a Porsche 200 mph on the Autobahn while listening to Beethoven. I guess I haven’t lived but I would like to try it sometime. Maybe not quite that fast though.
@Alexander Erickson GUILTY!!
0 likesSame. Everyone assumes the worst of me and thinks I'm stealing from them or doing something bad causw I always look guilty. I coukdnt imagine if accused me of murder and tried to interrogate me😭
0 likesThanks to "How pretending to be crazy looks like" I fell into a rabbit hole. I can't stop watching these videos.
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Absolutely nobody asked
34 likes@Keith LMAOOOO cmon dawg
105 likesAbsolutely same here
29 likes@Keith i asked
60 likesSameeeee
8 likesSame, my addiction started just 3 days ago 😳
19 likesSame. That one was so good now I can't stop watching these.
11 likesSame!
1 likesame I watched that 3 days ago and I've seen like 9 of these since
5 likeswtf me too 😂
2 likesLITERALLY ME RN
2 likesSame!
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0 likesSame
0 likes@Keith she got 500 like and you got one L
3 likes@Keith OK Keith
0 likesMe too
0 likes@Pepi Roni you got trump in your pfp, I get you’re trolling but don’t you have better things to do?
0 likes@Pepi Roni doubt it, most successful people have better things to do
0 likes@Pepi Roni thanks, I got to pet them when the band I was in performed at 97x, it was a bunch of rescues. Cutest lil things
0 likesSo glad im not the only one
0 likesI saw ur dp and felt at home bcz a fellow nctzen is here 😂
2 likesAddicted!
0 likesSame
0 likesSame lmao
0 likes@Keith right back at you 🤠
1 likeU r not alone. Haha. Its so intriguing how evil some people are...And u get to learn from their mistakes...not to murder or lie or talk without an attorney. Now I suspect JCS is an attorney. Hahaha
0 likessame plsss i cant stop
1 likehehe yes that was a good one
0 likesSame!
0 likesSame bruuu
0 likesme too
0 likesFRESH MEAT
1 liketotally hooked too
1 likeSame! Now I feel like I want to experience a police interrogation to see if I can put to use all the methods I have learnt
1 likeDid you think of that comment all by yourself or had you read in about a hundred other posts? I didn't notice him pretending to act "crazy"; what did you see that made him seem unbalanced?
0 likes100% same
0 likesExact same thing happened to me. How "Pretending to be crazy looks like" was probably the most interesting video I have ever seen, makes you get really into psychology
0 likessame
0 likesSameeeeee
0 likessaaaame
0 likes@Keith who tf is this guy😹
0 likesAs did I
0 likes@Jacob Hoover. She? That’s a Japanese man. Lmao
0 likesIm here too bro, dont even know why I keep watching them....
1 likeLiterally same
1 likeThe channel should do a whole video on the psychology of us viewers unable to stop watching this sh*it lol
0 likesSame shit bro😂
0 likesOMG SAME im addicted now
0 likesSame, Jaeyong
0 likesRight here with you . . .
0 likes@Fruitless - Some people just be like that. Even he don't know why. He ain't nobody
1 likeYes
0 likesSame
0 likes@Keith
0 likesAnd yet here you are
Dude same but three months later lmao
1 likeSame dude
0 likesok me
0 likesSAME
0 likesWelcome to the fold friend. Just wait til a new one comes out after a 6-8 month wait. You’ll instantly shit yourself with happiness. You’ve been warned. Plan accordingly.
0 likes@Keith thanks to “what pretending to be crazy looks like” I’ve found the next serial killer. Sadly all I know is he goes by Keith
0 likesLITERALLY THE SAME VIDEO FOR ME
0 likesThere arent even alot of videos tho
0 likesMe too. Now I'm running out of them. Need more.
0 likesMine was Jeff
0 likesExact same
0 likes@Keith I'm p sure jcs appreciates this lol
0 likesHoly crap, SAME! That kid looked like a character from Harry Potter and it got my attention. Now I'm watching one or two a friggen day. Lol
0 likesSame
0 likesOmg they're the best content on YouTube. These videos hit on just about every emotion I experience
0 likesSame :)
0 likes@Keith who asked if anyone asked?
0 likes@Keith No one ever has to ask for someone to make a YouTube comment.
0 likesgood thing it's another lockdown or I would have been F'ed in the morning
1 likewe are all living the same life
0 likesSAME
0 likesSame same same
0 likes@Keith that comment was for me.
0 likesI asked for it.
@Keith hey Keith gotta ask, are you still telling people that nobody asked them anything?
0 likesI love the way the creator narrates and put everything into perspective for us,pretty awesome.
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The narrator doesnt create the content. Someone else makes the content and gets the narrator to narrate it.
5 likesNo, you know what Mibenge? YOU are pretty awesome. Have a great day! ☺️
4 likesThis guy is the real deal. I’ve seen all his videos. Gotta hurry and make more!
8 likesAgreed
1 likeNo doubt. Much appreciated
1 like@NOCNOC the guy who narrates is in the video description. It's not the same person who makes the content.
1 likeIt makes it so easy to understand the interrogation techniques i love Jim for his uploads
2 likesTo me, the narrator sounds like an AI. But I guess he is really human?
0 likesThis is my favorite channel. No doubt
0 likes@Dylan Stop making shit up.
1 likeOP didn't say anything about a "narrator" - only you did that.
OP spoke only about the "creator" - "the way the creator narrates".
great narrator i think Mibenge
0 likesMibenge Bunyolo :::::just the opposite ! It’s like being read to when I can read. His paraphrasing (narrating) totally dominates and is distracting....imo////it is what a BadWebsite would be like causing deflation of enthusiasm...imo
0 likes“I begging you...”. Got a little old and bad interrogation form.....imo........she might as well screeched !
1 likeStraight to the point huh no beating around the bush
0 likesExactly what I was gonna comment. I w ouldnt change anything!
0 likesLove it!
0 likesThe entire clip where he was left to talk to himself was really fascinating
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Yeah I was really disappointed when they said he tried to claim self defence. For a second got me hoping he has a conscience
257 likes@napalot It was all an act for the cameras in the room.
115 likesnapalot you can have a conscience but still instinctively want to protect yourself by later claiming self defense
69 likesIf he wasn't high on aderall it would've looked different.
6 likes@kirby possibly but you know he had to feel that regret. He knew right away he was ruined but no sympathy can be felt, he felt the need to remove someone from the planet and ruin a family.
10 likes@kirby The only sympathy I felt for this dude was that he still cant just own up and stuff. I feel bad because he doesnt admit to himself that he's the monster. He cries out of fear of consequence, but I hope he gets locked up so he has a LONG time to think about what he's done. I want him to realize no apology will ever be enough, I wish he had a a conscience like said previously. He doesn't deserve to live outside of a jail.
6 likes@kirby I think it was entirely genuine
29 likesI think so also....seemed genuine
9 likesThat clip at the end made me realize that we're all just one step away from madness, we might not end up fucking killing someone, but doing something stupid for sure. This guy definitively looks like a douchebag, but I don't think he had ever killed someone or even tried to kill someone before.
33 likesI think some people are reading too much into this.. Seemed a pretty genuine reaction to me, he probably regretted the whole situation and thought he was such an idiot for killing her just to keep his shit job (which he was), and also later for confessing. He really doesn't seem like the criminal mastermind who would put on a show for the camera right after he broke down and confessed the whole thing to the detectives.. Also, his claim of self-defense could've been suggested by his lawyer to aim for a lesser sentence?
62 likesIt really is, it's almost like a conversion he is having to his closest friends and family but by himself
2 likes@kirby Don't be silly. Murderers don't get sympathy in justice.
1 likeBroke my heart actually... 1 mistake has ruined his life
9 likesBroke your heart gtfoh!!
6 likesStop trolling to
1 like@Jamal Ford some people 🤦♂️🤦♂️
0 likesFor real maybe I am a psycho but I could have watched that go on for a lot longer....very interesting to watch someone realize they just completely fucked their life...
8 likes@My account 2 It depends of what cain of murdered are you talking about. All different mental illness it's a different respond to the murder that they commit or something that they did. So some of them can sligthly have sympathy.
0 likes@napalot conscience or not, its worth a 1 in a million shot to avoid a murder conviction. if thats all you have.
0 likes@Adrienne Wrn i suspected part of it was maybe. not at first, but some of the things he said out loud. like i couldve just told her to leave me alone
0 likes@kirby ya i saw that too
0 likes@cassl14 i thought the same thing
0 likes@Travis JP he wasnt very high by that point probably. they let him sit in there for an hour and a half to begin with. that stuff does last a long time though. he said he took one in the morning but he was talking to the police so im sure he wouldve downplayed whatever he took and how much
1 like@IAmWhomUPray2 ya. that mistake is not the one mistake you want to make lol
1 like@George Cann ive felt like that but i was not in this situation. not a fun time
0 likesFelt genuine to me. I'm pretty sure he didn't plan on killing her, I'd say they just got in a fight in the car and he snapped.
2 likesnapalot damn look at that white flip
0 likesWhat's fucked is I went through a similar situation but It was possession and it just remindes me of when I was handcuffed in my backyard with my family around me. I just boiled it all down to how much money I just lost my hard working family
0 likesright it was fascinating and also weird hearing him say “I’m so sorry Savannah”
2 likes@DeuceGenius very Good comment😊👍
0 likesAll from one question “how did you know her” told them their life story
0 likes@syddd zamn syd
0 likesThat's exactly how I behave when I'm having a depressive breakdown and I'm alone
6 likes@kirby I don't know man... I haven't done anything close to what this guy did, but I'vde definetly done the "shittalk yourself after fucking up big" thing. Seeing him like that felt very familiar
3 likes@napalot has
0 likesYeah I thought so too. Very chilling. I can't say I felt "bad" for him- I felt sympathy for his feelings, not his actions. He clearly was regretful.
1 likeYall are just trying to demonize him
2 likes@myself0and0i right. The reaction was genuine. I feel like it was his narcissism at his weakest point that made him break down into tears. Its all about him. I kinda got that notion when JCS said he was known for his charisma and being liked by his peers. Hence him saying "fucking savannah" and "she was nice to you but of course someone was a bitch how does that work". He never cared that he killed Savannah, those detectives broke him to a point where he thought no one could ever get him to. Probably why he ended up claiming self defense later on. He started listening to his NPD again and went back to hating savannah.
0 likes@napalot, well, just because someone has a conscience, does not mean they want to spend the rest of their life in prison, regardless of what they have done. Having a conscience is not inclusive with always telling the truth, and we all know that.
0 likes@Adrienne Wrn, he was definitely genuinely freaking out.
0 likes@Adrienne Wrn exactly
0 likesThat was a wild ride for sure.
0 likesI'll be honest, I do this too when I've felt horrible about something. Though most people probably don't talk to themselves out loud as much as I do... I think it may be a nervous compulsion though. Id probably have about the same reaction he had.
0 likesWhen she started begging I was expecting an interjection from the narrator: "The female detective has now initiated what's known as the 'Desparately pleading and begging for a confession' technique"
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Unprofessional
95 likesYeah actually I almost thought she is Savannah's mom
64 likesI cringed so hard at that part
103 likesI get why she did it though. She was really trying to appeal to his emotions, which they ultimately did do. The breakdown at the end clearly shows that homie was emotionally unstable. I don't agree with her methods but you can't argue with the results.
259 likes@Makara how? Thats a method they use to get someone to confess
70 likes@Hexerhand lol I stand for our 2nd but I hate guns. Never owned a gun and never will. I don't need a gun as I have the OX GOaD/A GOD hug & kiss.. lol.
0 likes@Jane Doe couldnt have phrased it better myself
11 likes@dsa dsa You probably could've.
14 likesShe was so annoying... lol
8 likes@Jane Doe I do believe this is the first Russian Bot I've seen
6 likesTo anyone talking shit about the female interrogator, you realize it got the confession right? They worked him up to confess. Ffs he burned the body if they didnt get him to talk there would be missing information. You think if 2 monotone super collected dudes kept calmly asking him shit he would have broke down and told them everything?
92 likesDanyyil Chernobayev bro her voice was just annoying. i’m sorry professional analyst, i just thought the pitch of her voice was too high
10 likesGot irritated with the fact that it was Good Cop (man) and Nagging Cop (woman). They should have shut up at some stage and just sat and watched him until he speaks to break the silence.
6 likes@Danyyil Chernobayev hope she sees this bro
4 likes@Makara Detective who has years of experience is unprofessional, and I know what's unprofessional in this line of work
6 likesI thought she was going to have better interrogation skills than he did, but clearly she has TERRIBLE interrogation skills. She should have just not been there. I’m sure the guy is so annoyed she keeps crying and begging, it’s really embarrassing
10 likesshe was only watching and listening for 20 minutes but then says one word...
6 likesthe female detective has entered the chat
She's using her female tactics. Trust me I'm a female and it works 😂
6 likesGood to know im not the only one who thought she was annoying lol
7 likesTay Davies what do you mean has it really worked? Didn’t you watch the end of the video where it says that he confessed... I guess we watched different videos. She is a professional and was not in that room by accident.
25 likes@Myca Ingram yeahhhh but that guy was a fucking dope, I feel like the begging strategy was a bit much lol
1 likeARE YOU GUYS KIDDING LOL That's part of interrogation 101, not much different of "where is she, TELL ME" I mean of course it sounds cheesy to us but the dude is processing that shit in a totally different manner.
29 likesLaugh as much us you can, but what she did is part of an acting, and is also a technique that works for some people who not really evil. If the guy was a seriel killer and evil man then this technique won’t work at all.
6 likesDon't know why some people always like to find fault in anything. She was doing her job and it was the "desperately pleading techniques" that actually got the guy to crack.
6 likes@Danyyil Chernobayev exatly! and look at the top comment...
1 like@Makara so youre an investigator know??? ok...
0 likes@Jane Doe Sir I am dead serious you need to go talk to a doctor. Your comments are near illegible. Whatevers going on inside your head, venting it on the internet is not the place for it. Please go seek professional help from a doctor.
2 likes@Jane Doe RanDOM capitalisatiON is FUN and fUn is FunDAMental
1 likeI would have said, "Dude she's getting hysterical. You should get her out of here."
1 like@Riette G you base that on the number of interrogations you've done of homicide suspects?
0 likes@DJ well, I guess its working lol
0 likesI'm not sure if it was an actual tactic or if she just got personal with it, but her begging was probably boosting up his ego.
3 likesIt worked 🤷🏾♀️
3 likesAn awful lot of you are getting on her case like you're a professional too. I'd like to see you get a confession out of the guy. She did her job, and obviously she did it well.
6 likeslmao
0 likes@Tay Davies It did work...
1 likethat was lame of her
1 like@ralphjb you can't really attribute his eventual self-pity to her emotional pressure
1 likeDecrepitOrigin888 I think you are way off the mark,the wannabe meryl Streep had nothing to do with it. It was the cctv trail and evidence, plus his alibi being shot to pieces that led to the confession. Meryl is now totally committed to her amateur dramatic group where she is rehearsing a play called “ good cop, desperate cop”😂
3 likesLMAO 😂
0 likesSo annoying
0 likesMale officer uses interrogation techniques: Yes, I see what he's trying to do, he's coaxing an emotional response to destabilize the perp. Basic, but effective.
7 likesFemale officer uses interrogation techniques: WhY hEr VoIcE aNnOyInG tHo?
incels will always have women to complain about
4 likesThis reply section reeks of misogyny. I'm not one to throw that word around but come on boys, the tactic worked. 'Imagine living with her'? What has that to do with anything. Grow up.
12 likes@DJ It let to the confession so...
0 likes@BreakfastClub Lucifer enters the chat: Detective!
0 likesDefinitely not the like the interrogator that Chris Watts got!
0 likes@Tay Davies you just watched it work. Whatever works.
0 likes@DJ that’s the point to get a confession as she did 👍🏻
0 likes@Tay Davies you’re watching a video when it worked
0 likes@Stormin Norman He would've confessed without her whining
0 likes@Juan Bravo I highly doubt it was her who made him confess. If she wouldn't have done that whining bit the result would've been the same lol
0 likes@Tay Davies so you agree then it works, good 👍🏻
0 likes@Stormin Norman Whatever dude lol
0 likes@Tay Davies it worked on him..at least got him to soften up.
0 likes@Riette G stopping to let him break the silence is dangerous because he could get out of their flow and start thinking of other things than answering their questions. If he was given a break he could have relised he should ask for a lawyer or just refuse to speak
0 likes@Walter Sobchak I bet he was too worried about not saying the wrong thing too laugh at her
0 likesPlease Lee,, pleeese Lee, where did you go with her??.. LEEE..!! please, I'm begging you please tell us..
0 likesThank God that guilty people DO talk without a lawyer! Why would anyone want a guilty person to keep on lying!!
0 likesGuilty people…always,always talk,without a lawyer.Innocent people…do as you please,but be aware that you’re a suspect.
0 likesI used to wonder why everyone weren't gorgeous looking genetically, and I concluded it is dangerous. Savannah was beautiful. Beautiful women will bring stupid men to madness when they reject them. I imagine she broke up with him that day.
0 likesI just love seeing people cry because they got caught 😭
0 likesIt's scary how charming people seem but they could be killing people in the back of a car seat. My trust issues are getting worse and worse watching all these videos Istg.
0 likesHe later pleased guilty and was sentenced to 40 years in prison.
0 likesAs soon as the " open ended " question was asked, I would respond by saying, " I want a lawyer".
0 likesWho the hell would be so worried about losing their job at BONEFISH?! You could get fired then go to Long John Silvers that same day and get another job.
1 likeLawyer up as the first question drops! But I’m glad he got what he deserves.
0 likesI guess I always look guilty of something because I always give overly long answers/stories. Lol
0 likesI dont think it's just for seeking approval. 9:20 When they have a longer explanation they can remember their lies better.
1 likeHe knew he wasn’t there for an outstanding traffic warrant. You don’t go to an interrogation room for traffic tickets.
0 likesi do that thing when you already know the truth but you pretend not to so the liar will be trapped in its lies. i do that to my sister because she lies so much. i didn't know i've been an investigator for years
0 likesOkay this female detectives 2nd row high school drama club acting is ridiculous. I would burst out laughing as soon as she starts that fake hysterical bullshit.😂😂😂
2 likesCould you imagine walking into one of these rooms free and then never going home? No? Good!
0 likesI always remembered this case because the guy reminded me of myself as a younger man since I to was a chef at a restaurant and good with the ladies.
0 likesAnyone else annoyed with the "please please" lady? Jeez...if I was the suspect I would feel so powerful knowing how utterly desperate and upset they are to get my answer. It would make me totally not want to talk to keep that power. That is some terrible interrogation skills when he already showed several times that he doesn't have kids and he doesn't give a shit...why would that work on him?
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You mean the detective who helped get a confession and put him away for 40 years? Lol. It was a carefully calculated persona working in conjunction with the other detective as an interrogation strategy.
3 likesDidn't he say that it was reharsed multiple times? I think it was on purpose
0 likesThat last segment, fuckin’ whoa man. Today I realized I talk to myself like a murderer talks to themselves bc ~*depression n shit~, and maybe I shouldn’t be so harsh on myself ‘cus I ain’t never killed nobody. Maybe there’s hope, lolol.
0 likesDetectives: please tell us! Please! I'm begging you! Please tell us! True strategic masterminds.
0 likesHer tone and emotional pleas makes me so nervous that even I feel like confessing 😰
0 likesWhen I used heroin the only time I got paranoid is when a cop would be somewhere behind me while driving and having a couple grams on me lol. Besides that I was super energetic and very talkative. I would be muti-tasking everything at a fast pace lol When that energizer bunny disappeared though Id start noddin off and fall asleep where ever I was at lol
0 likesIt's so obvious he's guilty just from his first response.
1 likeWhy did they give him so much power? That woman is literally begging him for an answer!
0 likesI love how calm detectives are KNOWING the person is LYING. Great job.
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There are video cameras EVERYWHERE!
13 likesExactly! The detectives were honestly really impressive to watch.
11 likesNever interrupt a suspect, when they are lying. Let them dig their own grave. If you then confront them with their lie they have to built a whole other story.
9 likesi would be scared to enter the same room as a person who had killed somebody
1 likeWell I imagine lying is the expected response but... I'm bouta pop a vessel just listening to this
1 likeASTONISHING
0 likesI love how calm the suspects are knowing the detectives are lying
1 likeSPOILER IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE VIDEO:
1 likeHis ultimate answer as to what happened doesn't seem that far off, honestly. Do I think it was self-defense? HELL, NO! Do I think he roughed her up a bit and accidentally did what he claimed to have done? It's possible. Either way, it's tragic. I'm going to look more into this because this video doesn't show if people who knew him said he was a violent person. Then again this douchebag persona leads me to believe he could easily be a woman-beater, but not necessarily a murderer.
restaurant relationships never work out and they always end in someone trying to ruin someone.
6 likescan speak from experience lmao
Dude is denying popping Adderall as if that's his main problem right now. 🤣
1 likeWithin 2hrs the cops were on the scene? I thought for missing person cases you have to wait like 48hrs or something ?
1 likeThose pictures of him were the douchiest things I've ever seen in my life.
1 like7:23 - he sees the handcuffs on the door, notice how he quickly averts his eyes from them.
0 likesThey asked how he knew her… dude had a response of over 5 mins! Wow!!!
0 likesSomewhere around 30:00 I can also see they use guilt tripping as a tactic
0 likesDetective: "How long have you known Savannah?"
4 likesLee: explains entire FNAF lore
I will NEVER understand how people can sit there and be interrogated WITHOUT asking for an attorney, THEN give a confession for nothing in return.
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bc they know theyre guilty.
0 likesMost people forget or are tricked by cops
0 likes"You could have just told her to leave you alone."
0 likesYeah. Yeah you could've.
The full confession is available on YouTube
0 likesWatching this now. I am reminded of Amber Heard's answers during court trial.
0 likesIdk why, but I find the last part so funny
3 likesThe actual confession is out in the wild now. I saw it on another channel.
0 likesLmao his face @18:00 when The detective mentioned the backseat 😂😂
0 likesWhat gets me is that we have hi def cameras on everyday phones and yet cctv cameras are grainy as shit, when they are supposedly meant to be used for community safety.
0 likesWow ngl the interrogators are really good. If I was in his shoes I’d of confessed
0 likesDetective: "So how long have you known savanna?"
4 likesLee: "I struggle to find the right words to describe just how much I hate the French language. I'm not racist but I think the world would really be a better place if all French speakers just stopped speaking French and learned a normal language. Nothing about this language remotely makes sense, or is even internally consistent. Why are there so many silent letters? Half the words have pronunciations which somewhat resemble their spelling, and the other half seems like French people just decided to add a bunch of letters so they can act like they're better than everyone else. The language seems like it's deliberately constructed to be as difficult to learn as possible. Why the hell do verbs have different conjugations for you, me, he/she, we, you(plural), and them? Even the English language doesn't have that many arbitrary conjugations."
"I made an honest attempt to learn French, I really did, but the language is just filled with bullshit rules for grammar and everything else. Whichever way you look at it, it's almost as if French is constructed to be as difficult to learn as possible. For real, English isn't my first language but I learned it just fine; trying to learn French after that feels like bashing my head against the wall. This is somewhat irrelevant, but I've heard that some French speakers who speak some English like to pretend they don't speak it when you talk to them. Why do you have to make life difficult for everyone, I'm not going to make fun of you for speaking English poorly. That's not even mentioning how metropolitan French has a superiority complex over other variations of French, all neutral observers will agree that they are equally shit. Also I've heard that some French speakers tend to discriminate against people who speak a local dialect of French, as if one version of a language is better than all others. Sure, the same thing happens with English, but at least the English language doesn't suck"
I don’t understand if he’s a manager there how does he not know there’s cameras in the parking lot??
1 likeDetective: how long have u known her?
2978 likesLee: I did drugs. She did drugs.
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6 likesWhen he said that, i was like "wtf is he doing" lol
45 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone Just because a few police are racist, it doesnt mean all are. I am by no means saying that police brutality is alright, but it doesnt occur with most cops so why blame all cops? If a chef murders someone, it doesnt mean that all chefs are murderers, right?
12 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone I have done my research and I can say that a 99% rate of police being racist is completely absurd. What I would like to ask you though is this: if there is an armed robbery at a bank or store, who will be there to stop it and discourage future crimes from happening if police are out of the picture?
9 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone It's people like you who are the problem in America, not the Police. The democratic party has become a echo chamber for extreme, and irrational propaganda. As someone who has always supported the concept of free university, and free healthcare for all, it hurts to know that in order to assure those around me protection for criminals, I no longer can support the political party that I agreed with on almost all controversies only a few years ago. There is no longer a political party for those of us who support rational left leaning ideologies, there is only the right, and extremists. I encourage you to rethink your stance, as your actions are only pushing people away from agreeing with you.
8 likes“And I season the food at bonefish grill with my scabs”
3 likes@Nav Nārva this dude is trolling you so hard
1 like@Skamacho 🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@Nagol _06 where does racism have to do with this ? Maybe the person deleted their comment ?
1 like@minikui kowai desu yeah, they deleted their comments
1 like@Nagol _06 If all chefs were armed and their job descriptions were changed to protecting and serving the public and they started routinely killing unarmed civilians we might want to look into the culture and system that supports them
1 likeI wish you guys were still making these.
0 likesI hate that the prosecutor didn't release the full interrogation. That doesn't exactly scream "transparency & accountability"
0 likesObviously this guy was guilty. But the full recording should've been released so The People have a chance to review it. It is public safety after all.
The fact that people who commit crimes such as murder or kidnapping never have a lawyer because they think they aren’t going to get caught. Shows how far their plan never reaches because they never actually made a plan
0 likesI wonder if he had drugs on him and asked to use the bathroom to get rid of them🤔
0 likesOne bad action changed the lives of so many..
I’d make a bad interrogator then because the minute he lied I’d whip out the laptop with the video footage and be like “sHe GOt oUt oF THe CaR, hMM?”
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Ahaha
35 likesSame mame
17 likesBOOM! You goin to jail, sucka!!
279 likesBad cop, Hype cop, I gotchu
That’s why the slow reveal of the evidence by the second detective was key. Sometimes the mention without the physical proof is better, it still withholds enough to throw the accused off.
114 likesMetoo. I'm not a good liar. They knew he did it. That's exactly what I would tell the monster who choked that poor woman too death. Why? She owe him money for drugs?
2 likesLmaooo exactly!! I'd be like "this you?"
40 likesI swear 😂
2 likesI would pull the laptop out and say “ this you ? “ LMAOAOAAOAOAO
40 likesi lol'd
0 likesId just be like "aight thats cap, youre the imposter".
26 likesJohn Cam LMAOAOAOAOAOA “yea you sus”
9 likesDisney Disney lmfao 😂🤣😂😂
0 likesInstant gratification lol
0 likesNot only that. I would do a victory lap chanting "I gotcha" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likeI'm Sorry
3 likes"TWENTY EIGHT STAB WOUNDS!"
ThAnKs FoR tHe LiKeS
1 likeGOT EM.
1 likeYeah well is she invisible lee?
0 likesJohn Cam cringe. Le epic among us meme!! Niceeeee!
1 likeYou get good PD interrogation progression points for eliciting a confession without showing them video evidence.
0 likesDisney Disney Haha... I don’t know I think I would enjoy it in situations like this where I knew they were guilty. The times where there’s more uncertainty is when it’s gotta be really tough because you never want to have someone innocent going to jail on your hands
1 like@Junza God the cringe. Please stop.
0 likes😭😭 same
0 likesBahahhahahhahhahhahaha
0 likesLMAO
0 likes@John Cam loooooooooooooooool
0 likes@kirtons4u they probably have imaging enhancement
0 likesSame, I would go ape shit😂😂 can't stand people lying especially if I have prove
2 likesbe like this you?
0 likesOmg me too
1 likeHmm I didn’t see her come out of nav ur the imposter
3 likesTHEY GOT YOU IN 4K? HOW’D THEY GET YOU IN 4K??
0 likesYes, you would be a bad interrogator. The video does not definitively identify him as it's not clear, even with a chevy malibu exiting the lot (that is a very common car and the license plate cannot be made out on the video.) Trying to get a confession out of him is the best way of getting a conviction. A decent defense attorney could discredit that video as reasonable doubt. What they are doing is letting him know that he forgot about the cctv cameras all over the parking lot (which as a Manager of a restaurant in that plaza, he should be fully aware of) while they searching his car for her blood and other evidence. It worked and he dissolves into the self-pitying piece of psychopath shit that we all could see he is in front of another camera, which I guarantee he knows about, as he attempts to engender sympathy for his sentencing hearing.
0 likes@Junza hype cop lmaoooo
0 likes😂
0 likesHahahahaha, too good.
0 likesLol the reason they wont do things like that is because they want him to lock himself into a story before he is aware of any details or information that he can try to explain away or incorporate into his lies. Also, if he were to come back to that statement in the event that he confesses, if he were to acknowledge his lie on that particular detail but then later recanted, they could point to that moment as being proof that he clearly knew more than he claims post-confession recantation.
0 likesLol and as I watch, I got to the point where that was mentioned and jcs literally said the exact same thing I said basically
0 likesActually.lay that could work. Make him crack....
0 likes«HAH, GOT EM!» high Fives the female investigator
0 likesYes, you would.
0 likesabsolutely same hahaha
0 likesLOLL🤣
0 likesThe female detective maybe not the greatest to ever step into this role lol.
1 likeI'm wondering if it was an accident like he fought with her but didn't have intention of killing her. A 90 pound female it wouldn't be hard to break her neck in a struggle. He shouldn't have burned her body though..he should have called the police immediately and maybe he would have got manslaughter
0 likesIf the police left me sitting in a room for 90 minutes, the only thing I would tell them when they came in was "I want a lawyer".
0 likesIm 27 with a-lot of grey hairs. This is what causes it. This world is so cruel man. Sometimes I wish the universe never decreed for me to exist because I feel like I’m too weak to acknowledge the horrible things that happen in this world and it will eventually damage my psyche. RIP Savanna. You were killed unjustly. Your in a better place now. If these judges don’t give you the justice you deserve don’t worry. There is still the judge of all judges who will not accept any of his creation to be oppressed.
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I myself came to similar conclusions once (it is easy to reach such conclusions when you look at a lot of information about the crimes), but one day I saw a comment that changed my perspective: at every crime scene, at every incident, at every place where something bad happened there are always those who help.
1 like"He was known for his charm and charisma..." Proceeds to show pictures of him looking like the quintessential douchebag. Ah yes, the famous Florida charm.
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I feel so bad for this guy. He seems really nice and is in a lot of pain.
22 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin I understand the feeling sorry for him, it’s obviously horrible to imagine what he’s going through in those final clips. But I have to disagree on him seeming nice. He murdered another person. And not even for a “decent” reason. He has to face justice.
356 likes@afonsords what’s a decent reason?
25 likesThat's one way to charm though
2 likes@Conor M I have to agree. A girl playing with your mind isn't seen as a threat but an imposing guy against a girl is seen as one.
21 likesAlso, I think that's what he meant by "self defense" during the trial.
“Florida charm” is famous???
5 likes@Joe Public It was obvious Sarcasm.
30 likesSo on point. "He was a real up and comer...."
10 likesLee: Tokyo Drifts outta Taco Bell on A1A...
Ladies love it.
4 likesLOL.
1 likeYes they famous Florida charm! Like the charm of a fucking slug!
7 likes@Rafael Crabs florida , like the United States as a whole, is a large, diverse place, and so there is a wide range of environments and situations here. I live in Pinellas County in Florida and it's absolutely beautiful.
15 likes@Rafael Crabs you're describing a poor place just above trashy.
19 likesFlorida ranges from stunningly beautiful to a cesspit, just like all the other states. I've only been to a few places there but I absolutely love Florida and the people I've experienced there so far.
Lol 😂
1 like@Conor M Jesus. You sound just like the kind of guy to do what he did.
57 likes@BlankBird
8 likesCan you actually refute anything I said instead of just being offended?
The pictures reminded me of several men I have worked with over the years in service....and I'm in the Midwest🤣definitely can't rule out that ~florida effect~ though.
2 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin Oh yea I wonder how nice he seemed when he was killing a young woman in the back of his car. I often wonder how people wrote Ted Bundy letters while he was in prison and wanted to marry him. You seem like the type
15 likes@SpaceZen he probably seemed nice when he was slashing her up, as well. All around solid fella just caught up in a bad situation.
17 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin True. Didn't look at it that way
1 like@SpaceZen like truly, one of the better humans to walk the planet IMO. Just got in a tough spot.
3 likes@Conor M Yeah, I can. That’s a decent reason for a confrontation, but not for breaking someone’s neck. You inserted the word “confrontation” when what was said was a decent reason for murder, or at least a severe thrashing that led to death.
18 likesSo are you saying there was a decent reason to beat a 90lb girl to death?
seems to work with women
0 likesI thought the same thing. He looked painfully average to me.
2 likesExactly ..l about died
0 likes@Ricky Ray right on, I wish you all the best and I'm sure you'll get that degree. Of course every city has its rough spots. Besides Scarface, Ace Ventura 1, Vice City and Disneyland I don't know anything about Florida. Someone said "Florida charm" which sounded like a thing so I wanted to sound like I was in the know and likened it to that interview of the pathetic polyamorous people from Florida. Of course Florida would have to have its nice spots but whichever neighborhood was in that interview looked tremendously sad, just that neighborhood specifically. I'd like to check out Florida some day.
1 likeIf you ever make it to NZ avoid Auckland and Hamilton. Auckland is just another boring city fiercely overpriced and Hamilton reminds me of the polyamory people from Florida. Had a girl from Egypt staying at our flat for a few weeks on our couch and I asked her what she thought of Auckland and she put her fingers like half an inch apart giggling saying "it's so small" it was super amasculating, like "hey.. size doesn't matter lady. Jeez."
@Emp6ft10in Is charm and charisma physical in your opinion?
0 likesWhat people define as “charm” is subjective from person to person, but I would say anybody with logical sense wouldn’t view those pictures as charming in anyway
0 likesHey hey, lay awf mah kin !
1 like@ListerTR - It's a small part of the equation but I wasn't knocking his looks. The pictures they showed of him was just of him partying and being totally average. And this guy was a drug user and a selfish enough individual to kill in order to save his restaurant job. But I guess girls just like fun. So give them drugs, get them intoxicated and keep the party fun for them and then bang, you have "charisma" by today's standards.
4 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin and still alive... Unlike the chick.
0 likes@Msacer 55 exactly, I mean this dudes got a lot going for him.
0 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin don’t you feel sorry for the woman he’s killed? Her body was so mutilated the autopsy wasn’t able to pinpoint the injury that killed her.
1 likeYeah but those ray bans were pretty tight, ngl.
0 likesProbably from Bravard County
0 likes@Conor M prove he is offended or else you are offended.
5 likes@Conor M But you don't even know if what he said is true. Maybe he lied to justify what he did to her.
9 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin revenge
0 likes@Conor M You don't have any actual argument beyond being misogynistic. Hope this helps.
13 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin that feel bad feeling means you have a good heart and caring but it can cost you your life !
0 likes@Tidi You could be right. And why trust the word of a murderer? But it was the motive the investigators concluded with.
1 like@BlankBird You can call the truth whatever name you like. You do you.
0 likes@Conor MHa, ok.
0 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin self defense is one example
0 likes@Hadley Torres And I bet a slug is smarter
0 likes@Conor M r u INSANE
4 likesFYI most of these "winners" arent FROM Fla....they come from YOUR states....NY, NJ, TX, CA...etc.....we are the dustbin of the USA......
1 like@BlankBird Actual argument? He killed her for exactly that petty reason. What do you mean? It is factually correct that that confrontation led to a murder. Hope this helps.
3 likes@Manic Mercurian I'm sure your place is great, but I do just have to say this: When I used to watch "Snapped", it seemed like every case originated from Pinellas County! Maybe it's just filled with vengeful women who pick the wrong men? I don't know...
2 likes@C Glenn I could articulate my own experience with the different areas of the county and aspects of such but at the end of the day, a picture is worth a thousand words and actually being somewhere is probably worth a lot more. At the risk of sounding condescending, I'd suggest you visit the area in order to learn whether it is "Snapped," or I, who portray the area better.
1 like(really I don't care lol) hmm and yet I go on...
I mean really my initial point was that the US, and Florida, and even Pinellas County are all places which have a wider range of experiences than many would sometimes like to suggest or care to understand.
Yeah I'm still torn between not caring, and moving on from this comment lol, and going into the depths of my experiences and what I've observed here.
I'll just say that when I moved here, it was because I did a lot of research, and that perhaps you and I are different because when I aim to understand a place, I look at things like demographics, climate, economics etc etc as well as aim to have my own personal experience in the place. Rather than base my opinions on TV shows. Or whatever "Snapped" is.
They seem to like that. Don't hate
0 likesLooooool frrrr
0 likesHilarious.
0 likes@Bear Lemley 😂
0 likes@Surly Girly
0 likesA Floridian would like that. I grew up in Vero Beach.
@Manic Mercurian aww, don't feel badly. I've been all over Florida, spent a lot of time in Clearwater and on some of Pinellas County's beaches, but not since 2010 during the recession. I renovated and flipped a condo in West Palm Beach, which was my favorite place in FL. I'm also a real estate investor and a parent, so what's important to me might not be important to you. The good news is that you love where you live, and that's all that matters.
0 likes@Bear Lemley We have a home there - love it.
0 likes@Surly Girly
1 likeYea, miss the boat on the dock in the back yard. Visiting friends and restaurants by boat. I moved away some time ago, 180° around the sphere now.
When I was going to Jr high and high school. We lived north of the city on the beach. Our nearest neighbor was about 3/4 mile north. There was no one livening there at the time. (1970 ish) I left in 1990. My mom left in 2002.
@Bear Lemley Idyllic. Much more populated now, I'm afraid. But still has a laid-back charm.
0 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin Ah, you caught him slippin!
0 likes@Misses Hippy always do
0 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin not that nice
0 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin decent reasons and murder don't really go together in a sane world view.
1 like@Conor M
0 likesWow! You must have been a fly on the wall inside the car?
@Let Me Catch You Slippin key word here is 'seems', no one who's actually nice would violently kidnap and then murder their girlfriend. He's in a lot of emotional pain, but he should be. I'm sure one day if he's actually killed in prison like he was dreading then he might understand a little bit of what that poor girl felt. Over 75% of her body had been brutalized, that's one of the more violent murders I've ever heard of. There's a lot of hate inside of that seemingly nice guy
2 likes@Conor M absolutely on point. Why I checked out of the dating game years ago, because that’s literally all it is, a game rigged from the start. Complete waste of time and money, I’m better off alone focused on my career and money. Too many risks when getting involved with a woman, as the ball is never in your court
0 likes@Rafael Crabs America is the biggest melting pot of mental illness in the entire world. I'm not sure how we got here, but it's by far not just due to lack of access to mental health care facilities like some claim. The rot runs deep. The death of respectable culture through mass media, the death of love through Tinder, and the death of friendships and family by being so spread out from one another. We really are a cancer on the world at this point.
0 likesAs you say, it's livable, but everything about it pushes people into eccentric or disturbed behaviors.
@Conor M You see not proven things or are you the person hiding in the trunk.
0 likes@Gary Clark III i see angry in your writings. Yes its good for you to stay alone and for the community. Sorry to say.
3 likesBeing from the UK, this goes above my head. What do you mean?
0 likes@YTJ K don’t bother with close minded teens, they just want to argue.
0 likes🤣
0 likesI think I might start using "Florida charm" as an insult, haha. That's kind of a gem, right there.
0 likesStandard issue Florida guy.
0 likes@Conor M someone's triggered.
3 likes@Rafael Crabs The best places in Florida are the wilderness. Florida has large areas of protected wetland, if you're a fan of nature, Florida has everything, including hundreds of species from around the world that have no business being there.
0 likesI was in Florida for a time for schooling and I saw some of the craziest coolest things in nature there. Dolphins, sharks, rays, eels, turtles, jelly fish, frogs, geckos, iguanas, those are just things I experienced, there's also gators, crocodiles, snakes, cougars, fucking monkeys man!
Damn dude maybe you can help stop all these out of staters moving here. Getting crowded as hell
0 likes@Peeps and MooMoo dude... no. self defense would have been if she had been violent and tried to physically harm him first. you don’t “defend” yourself against someone’s “mind games” by killing them, sorry.
2 likes@G E T R E K T Have you ever even talked to a woman before? And cam girls dont count
1 likeBlankBird And communism and islam are religions of peace 👌🏻
0 likes@Woodsaras There's a difference between confidence and over compensation
1 like@Someone who's dead sure, and you are the an ultimate arbiter in calling them apart from seeing a few pictures. Lol.
1 like@Someone who's dead oh, its that i THINK, I KNOW they like douchebags. Anyway, i dont see anything especially douchy about this guy's photos, these commenters are just too conserved.
0 likes@Woodsaras He murdered someone, you cant be serious right now
1 like@Someone who's dead lolol, thats what you gotta say? Some emotional babble. Started talking like a man, ended up like a girl. Lost my attention completely.
1 like@Someone who's dead incel
0 likes@G E T R E K T I have a bf, try again
0 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin um, ok
0 likes@Conor M Yeah let's accept the murderer's word for gospel.
1 like@Conor M still doesn’t give a right to kill someone? Someone pisses you off or is annoying you? Talk to HR or the boss, nothing justifies murder until it’s self defence, rape and pedophiles and it’s none of those.
2 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin oh please you’re absolutely embarrassing, how can you feel sorry for a murderer it’s sickening
0 likesI thought the same thing. In his mind he was charming and charismatic, but a bit to everyone else.
0 likes@inchara k
0 likesEverything I wrote is an unfortunate fact. You can't deal with facts.
I don't know what you mean by "she had it coming". As in, she deserved it? Absolutely not. And GTFOH with that "defending murderers" nonsense.
wow Lee, so scared of getting hurt after what you did
0 likesDamn, he told the whole story
0 likes“Had a lot of success when it came to the opposite sex”… Well he’s about to have a lot of success with his same sex now in prison.
0 likes"A 2012 Chevy Malibu, an identical match"
1 likeshows a completely different vehicle that has a similar paint
Well, an innocent person would immediately ask - "I've been pulled in here because of an outstanding ticket, why are we talking about my relationship with Savannah?"
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Not to mention being isolated for 90 minutes. I would have asked to leave or have a lawyer immediately if I had waited for 90 minutes.
373 likes@The Prime Suspect No, it just makes sense. Cops dont haul you to the police station for a traffic infraction and then make you wait in an interrogation room by your self for an hour and a half. Something more serious is afoot here.
215 likesMy Spidey senses would be firing full speed. The second they read me my miranda rights I know some real shit is about to go down and I would be requesting a lawyer right away. It's my right and I'm going to use it and I'm not going to say a single word to the cops except for "I want a lawyer."
I dont care what they ask me or how they ask me. I would only continue to say, "I...want...a...lawyer."
What do the miranda rights say? It says you have THE RIGHT TO A LAWYER, even a free court appointed lawyer.
Why? Because also in the miranda rights it says Anything you say (to the cops or recorded by their spy cameras) CAN and WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU IN A COURT OF LAW!
They say this for a reason. So your best bet is to keep you trap shut no matter what they say to you, guilty or innocent. Dont help them to hang you, they are not your friend.
Even if they screw up and dont read you the miranda rights, remember that they still apply to you, you still have the right to remain SILENT!
They dont like it, but tough shit, it's still your right, so exercise it, dont talk to the cops, it wont bode well for you.
@R Purdy "but tough shit" hahahha... Love your directness ^^
3 likesYup
0 likesWhat I'm wondering most of all is why they are not asked if they want to have a lawyer present before talking to police?
4 likes@Tony Robichaud I think because both lawyers and police hate each other professionally. The police want a confession before anyone talks to a lawyer, and i’d say any lawyer watching this would also be shouting “Don’t say a word!”. So the police are never going to help you find/call a lawyer.
15 likesAn innocent person would of recognized a problem once they realized they weren’t being taken to a jail cell or courthouse for the traffic ticket arrest. Nobody gets taken into an interrogation room over a common traffic offense.
11 likes@Koolerking You are absolutely right. My mom is a lawyer, and whenever I even vaguely mention police to her, she always goes off about how regardless of whether I'm innocent or guilty, I say nothing to the police without talking to her or a lawyer first. She has made it abundantly clear that I cannot talk myself out of any interrogation, and I should never try to do so.
24 likesIn the beginning he said he wanted to talk to him about Savannah
0 likesTotally forgot about his outstanding ticket .. wow , this channel really gives u knowledge of how to first hand catch guilty people 😭
1 like@Koolerking There is no doubt that cops and lawyers hate each other. I've seen confrontations between them in public. But I thought there was a Miranda Law (something like that) where cops had to say to all persons soon to be in custody something like "you have the right to remain silent and if you wish to have a lawyer, one will be appointed for you". Perhaps that is in a different country and/or I'm mistaken and just saw it in a movie.
3 likes@Tony Robichaud bro they literally show it in the video, you can search it on Google, ofc that's that, how does someone not know the "you have the right to remain silence" shit, it's even in the movies, I've never been in the USA, I've never been arrested an I know them
0 likesWhen he recognized the detective that was asking about Savannah he could have realized what the situation was actually.
0 likesTo be fair, he was asked about savannah before this interview and even if he was innocent one could understand questions about something high profile going on like that
0 likesAn innocent person would get up after 15 minutes and try to open the door to talk to someone.
1 like@R Purdy I feel like immediately asking for a lawyer makes you look far more suspicious and immediately under investigation. If you're innocent (or asking like one) it shouldn't take you too long to clear things out
0 likes@Kantanen Akseli Watch "Don't ever talk to the police". Even if you are 110% innocent, anything you say might still be enough to incriminate you. Multiple innocent people have been convicted in the past and many more will in the future by talking to cops.
4 likes@Michael Estis this is a guy who wasted someone in his car on a busy car park. They don't have many brain cells.
0 likesAfter 15 minutes I would have knocked on the door and told them arraign me or let me go. If they insisted on talking I would have insisted on a lawyer and used my right to remain silent I wouldn’t have waited an hour and a half lmao.
0 likesRight!
0 likes@R Purdy That might not even work, though. Did you see the video with that one guy who DID ask for his lawyer, refused to talk to them several times, and they just kept refusing him his lawyer for DAYS until he broke and talked to them (because he realised he wasn't getting his lawyer)?
0 likesSystem's corrupt as hell. They can just deny you your Miranda's if they want to, by pretending they're complying and kicking it down the road. I reckon there needs to be a time limit on when they need to have contacted your lawyer - and they need to be able to prove it.
he was brought in by an unfamiliar face, until the arrival of the detective
0 likesHe honestly could’ve forgot why he was pulled in because it’s been 90 minutes.
0 likesI've never seen that sort of plaintive begging and whining
0 likesin an interview before. I don't see that to be an effective tactic in this situation.
the 'Lenny' -Defense, that was the defense's strategy. I am starting to think the stimulants (probably meth) had a little to do with him savagely attacking her.
0 likesIronically, as a new “fish” in prison he will certainly get “boned”.
1 likeI feel like I would look so sus in an interrogation because I overshare when I'm nervous or excited
1 likeDetective: “How long have you known her”
2961 likesLee: “We did drugs together”
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He honestly gave himself up lmao
58 likes“How long have you known her?”
86 likes“Well you see my mom did hard drugs”
@Ronan Music That's the Atterol kicking in! Got his whole life story from the first question ROFL!
23 likesYou know that really socially awkward person at a party who gives three word answers to open ended questions and can't keep a conversation going? Be that person during interrogations.
29 likes@Simon Fullbrook Better yet, lawyer up immediately and remain silent.
23 likesMy usual answer..
0 likes@Eric Goodemote Or don't murder someone
4 likes@Eric Goodemote In this case, after repeating his earlier answers from work (“We worked together”, “Last saw her a week ago”) that’s definitely what he should’ve done.
0 likes@Stephen Beatty that’s the best answer
0 likes@Stephen Beatty c'mon man, don't put the bar that high 😂
0 likes@Stephen Beatty of course. But being innocent won't necessarily save you from ending up in one of those rooms...
2 likesSlashing the front tire seems like a weird thing he did out of sheer panic-thinking. I dont see any reason why he would do that lol
0 likestbh, when someone asks me, how do I know someone, I probably start rambling. That's me being an introvert and anxious
1 likeWatching this guy beg for his mom helps me sleep at night
1 likePoor girl. Miserable man. He put her down very bad by exposing her drug use. He didn't have to mention she said she had used heroin prior to getting in his back seat car. Piece of 💩. He deserved life sentence not just 40 years where he will be eligible for parole on 20.
0 likesI really hate that I'm enjoying something that was a result of someone's death, but I stumbled across this channel late last night and I've been on a mini-marathon ever since.
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Same here, I'm on my second day of binging.
17 likesYou’re enjoying seeing the victim’s justice play out! don’t feel too guilty
85 likes@Little Jonesy excellent outlook 👌
12 likesMe too lol hours are going by like minutes it's really interesting and addictive cause you wanna be an interrogator at the same time lol
5 likesJim Can’t Swim is one the best youtube channels out there.
1 likeIt’s addicting
1 likeI came here really early this morning, I couldn’t fall asleep and browsed YouTube and found this
1 likeSame...
0 likesMe too!
0 likesMe too. It's interesting to see these liars squirm
2 likessame and i can't stop help
0 likesEver saw a movie about WW2? Guess what: It's based on a true story ;)
0 likesMany dead people..
Any other good channels you guys recommend?
0 likes@Jonnyboy 2645 from what I’ve seen, many of the same interrogations but with different narrators. IMO, the narrator of this channel has a deep understanding of criminal psychology and police interrogation techniques - which make it far more interesting - while some others sound more like they’re just doing it for the ”Likes” or they just don’t have much content. Just type Interrogation of (for example) Jodi Arias and you’ll run into other channels. Also, apparently JCS also has another channel for Patreon donors too. I’m not sure what’s on that however.
0 likesShortly after writing this, I came across the "Coffeehouse Crime" channel, which seems well done and not solely focused on US crimes.
0 likesI feel pity for you. Come join the rest of the JCS subscriber souls waiting in limbo for uploads. It is like Chinese water torture.
0 likesLate night youtube really hits differently...
1 likeSame !
0 likesSame! I need him to upload soon otherwise I'm going to run out of vids to watch! lol!
0 likesVery relatable comment
0 likesHe's nervous as hell, can't stop talking. After watching all of it, I hate that I feel sorry for him.
0 likesI'm still confused when people decide to kill or commit murder not focusing on the punishment that they will consequently face when being caught
0 likesControl and leverage folks- cops know shit you don’t- they put you in situations to break you down- this is their full time job. 🤐. I’m glad they caught this prick and my heart goes to her family and loved ones.
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Lee- Jesus died for all our sins. What you did was horrific. Believe in God and ask for forgiveness. This isn’t the end of your story.
0 likesThis guy is just teaching us how to not get caught
0 likes"Probably not the best advertisement for the Bonefish Grill, that their chefs are peeling off scabs at work" love his deadpan humor LMAO
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Time stamp?
1 like@Ariina N 21:00
7 likes90% of restaurant cooks are snorting lines off the counter back there. Or smoking some ice. It's honestly crazy how many people in the restaurant industry do drugs and have nasty habits. Source: have worked at alot of restaurants.
33 likes@Comment Hero i know exactly what you mean bro so many people in the industry use that shit
7 likesTheir bang bang shrimp is fire tho
8 likes@Comment Hero I've been in food service (hospitality, full service, fast food, QS+/++, delivery, and tourist-trap) for nearly twenty years and the hardest substance I've ever seen used IN kitchens is pot. Like, full stop. So I'm gonna have to take some umbrage with that '90%' hyper-exaggeration there. ^.^
16 likes@Patrick Harrington People often assume their own experiences define reality. Ive worked at plenty of restaurants, and in construction. You MIGHT have 1 or 2 people on your crew who are clearly using but its no where close to 90%, data just doesnt back that up.
9 likes@Patrick Harrington 90% of the places I worked** but still you was cooking and getting high, so my point still kinda stands lol not all the jobs I've worked, but most.of em people are getting drunk smoking pot doing coke, they're on something back there. And it is very very common with jobs like that. Shit maybe it's common with all job, I just worked alot of restaurant jobs cause I live in Florida near the beach, and yeah tourist trap. Pcola, panama city area
4 likes@Comment Hero I can attest to that. I have been in and out of the restraunt industry for about 20 years and I've worked in a variety of places. i.e. fast-food, family dining, sports bar, etc. Every place I've been employed at MOST of my coworkers and even a manager or two were getting high before and during work.
6 likes@Comment Hero Not me personally, no; pot gives me migraines like you wouldn't believe.
0 likesI won't argue with the drinking though; I swear, every full service I've ever worked, line cooks are just expected to have a quart of the cheapest beer on tap over their station with a straw sticking out of it.
One of their workers killed just to keep his job. If you look at it that way...
0 likes@Comment Hero My colleagues just smoked weed and got drunk. It was a kosher place tho.
1 likeTo the people going on about ‘percentages of workers using drugs’ - I think it’s just ‘People’ , I’ve worked in offices (Coke, pot) , teaching ( Coke, pot, wine) …it’s just people being people. They use drugs to cope if they’re not ‘together’ in their lives !
3 likesIt was a lie to cover up the fact that the wound was recent
0 likes@Robert Budnar I know it was a lie, I was just commenting on the narrator’s humor lol
0 likesits called garnish
0 likes@Comment Hero I think 90% sounds about right for Florida
0 likes*ps to Floridians this is jokes pls don't sick your meth racoons at me*
And yes everyone is so fixated on the 90% line lol 🤣 70% of people believe anything with a percent statistic
1 like@Animal Mother you mean their scabs 🤢🤮
0 likesThey probably wipe their ass with their fingers and don’t even wash their hands 🙌🏽 that’s sick 🤢🤮
0 likesAnd murdering co-workers, he should’ve mentioned that part too
0 likesNot a joke, just an insight. and the narrator didnt write it, jim did.
0 likesThe name bonefish isn't very appetizing either.
0 likesI think he could have gotten away with it if he lawyered up
0 likesI didn't know Natalie Portman was a detective.... Jesus girl
3 likesYou don't know what crying or pain is at this point....but you're gonna learn...
0 likesPlea deal: guilty to 2nd degree murder. Forty years.
1 likeWith today's technology, I don't see how people think they can get away with crimes like this.
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Right? Narcissism is a helluva drug.
31 likesand yet they continue to get away with it
32 likesThere's more cold cases than u think. Sadly lots of bad guys getaway with it.
51 likes80% of murders in the US go unsolved
7 likesJay Castro just wait till 100 years from now where you can’t get away with ANY crime in public due to surveillance, the cameras that caught this guy were 5-10 years old
3 likesHow do you know what he was thinking? Do you think he thought he could get away with it. Or you think he done the crime so he must have. That’s not how impulse crime works. In fact there wouldn’t be any crime with that logic.
3 likes@ThePointlessBox_ that is completely incorrect
5 likesThey can, by not confessing. The security camera footage isn't enough, and if he had kept completely quiet during the entire interrogation, and had they not found Savannah's body or remains after the fact, he likely would not have been convicted. The thing about stuff like this isn't to try and find out who did it, but to prove who did it. Just because there's a 99% chance the person in question did it, pure coincidence isn't enough evidence to prove somebody guilty. You need hard evidence, like a confession, DNA evidence, or a body.
4 likesbecause they can lol, and they do pretty regularly
1 likethey could have gotten away with it if they decided to stay completely silent or only answer with yes no and i dunno
1 likeHE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
0 likesDude they do everyday
0 likesIt's amazing how much material can be collected as evidence, both physical and contextual
0 likes@Kylan Chen According to this video, they did find a body
0 likes@P Funk theres certainly alot more crimes that are unsolved and crimes that occur without the government knowing. Though put to the back drop of America, generally being a much safer country than most.
0 likesCrime is a problem, but it is being managed. Though not competently
cause they can...
0 likesCthulhu Hoops you don’t even know what narcissism is. Tell me what is so narcissistic about this case?
0 likes@RedJupiter223 I just hope that we are as free to watch those who watch us, or the power imbalance will undo our entire society...
0 likesCasey Anthony cough cough...
0 likes@YxVm I think he is specifically talking about such crimes where the confrontation or abduction is done in a well lit public area, pretty much guaranteed to be cameras on a lot like this nowadays, also where the victim and suspect know eachother
0 likesLast 5min u came tell he's remorseful..he'll get the help he needs in prison.
0 likesRehabilitation will work. Especially when Big black bubbah and his homies look after and watch out for him and his safety. . They'll take care of him, tuck him in at night, read him bedtime stories .
He'll be fine and safe..
100%
"where can we find her?"
0 likes"Tommy the cat had many stories to tell. But it was a rare occasion, such as this, that he did."
"I accidentally broke her neck" -someone who has seen too many action movies
0 likesDoes anyone in the United Soviet States of America remember that they have rights guaranteed by the Constitution? I’m amazed at how many videos they have of people blabbing away to professional interrogators. If this were me the police would have been upset at 7:12 when after 91 minutes I would have asked for an attorney.
0 likesDetective: "How long have you known her?"
3582 likesLee: *tells life story
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YESSSS ts really took me bc they literally asked one thing and here this nigga go😭😭🤣🤣🤣 wtf was you talm bout brodie they asked how y’all met💀😂😭
105 likes@Peeps Ahoyy LMFAO EXACTLYYY
11 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
2 likesI know 😂 like this is only the first question bud! Save some info for the rest of them.
25 likesHis answer was a textbook answer for a guilty person as they explained why starting the conversation with an open end question could increase the probability of being guilty if answered in lengthy manner.
18 likes@Peeps Ahoyy Gshit😂😭😭
1 likeThat’s that Adderall
12 likesClassic Schmosby
1 likeDetective: asks one question
11 likesLee: tells his life story and more
Detective: uhhhh. No further questions now, I guess. You answered all of them.
@Lorn Ipsum -🤓
1 like@Peeps Ahoyy “How long have you known her for?”
5 likes4 hours later
“I shit you not, this motherfucker turned into a pickle. Funnies shit I’ve ever seen, bro.”
@Laika 😂
0 likesmy thoughts exactly
1 likeIt’s so he won’t ask any questions
0 likesIt’s called being a smart one
LMAO
0 likesThey knew he was guilty after his answer LOL Jesus man
3 likeshow’d y’all meet
*welllll she took a lot of drugs, but her weight looked healthy she looked good we kinda were talking here and there*LOL
This is like watching a chess game between a pro player and a 4 year old
1 like"Do you know how fast you were going?"
0 likesI DEMAND A LAWYER!!
"Do you know what happened to Savanah?"
Twas a sunny day, and the birds in the trees were chirping. Maybe they were just singing to each other, or perhaps they were tending to their little bird children. Ahhhhhh, how distinctly I remember the smell of pine in the air, that was being wafted by the breeze that was rustling the leaves.....
Self defense?
0 likesListen I don't know who taught you to go for the neck in a self defense situation but that is extremely risky since you know.
He clearly only feels bad that he was caught. I mean obviously he regrets killing her but had he got away with it i think he wouldve continued living his life just as he had done before killing her. Also a lot of his crying it seems like he is kind of forcing on himself. I know that when i cry after something such as a close relative dying or making a bad mistake i know i dont have to force myself to cry and i dont have these breaks in between like he was
0 likesAll the investigator asked was "how long have you known her", and he goes on a tangent about how they did drugs together. 🤦🏾♀️
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This channel is a case study in keeping you mouth shut and getting a lawyer.
62 likesI can fit 2 jellybeans inside of my belly button.
17 likes@Blackobluna That and also don't do murder.
10 likesI wonder what his regular gf makes of all of this
3 likesunbelievable motor mouth - Adderall, anxiety, or both?
4 likesI HATE JELLYBEANS do you have a IG or snapchat?
0 likesDDisconnect hell yea
0 likes@Ipsolus ...alrighty then 😮
0 likes@King Tiger Prof fish she's probably probably doing the keke palmer meme, "sorry to this man, but I wouldn't know who he was if I saw him walking down the street" 🤣
1 like@mr feelnothing unfortunately, I do.
0 likesI HATE JELLYBEANS lol I’m trying to follow you on IG then 😅
0 likes@mr feelnothing no thanks...
0 likes@mr feelnothing I won't be having it long
1 likeWhat's wrong with jellybeans?
1 like@Subversive Tactics what isn't???
0 likesBlackobluna problem being, if you’re dumb enough to commit a crime like murder, you’re not gonna be smart enough to take the precautions of getting a lawyer
2 likes@Ipsolus Ahaha
0 likesEven if I'm not a criminal, I'd be the prime suspect if they interrogate me😧 because I have a habit of giving lengthy and detailed answers
0 likesThe female detective acting incredibly disinterested is a tactic used often in interrogations. It allows the suspect to relax by assuming the questioning is “no big deal”. When she interjects - they double down on the pressure as well as revealing evidence against him. Her sudden participation knocks the suspect off guard and boyyyyyyyy it worked.
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Fascinating
7 likesLol ya she's just checking out her Instagram acting like it's no big deal
13 likesYeah but the begging and fake crying is stupid.
36 likesgl0ckc0ma using artificial worms might seem unusual, but you will still catch fish...
50 likes@Caleb Phillips i LOVE a good analogy and hot damn you got me giddy~ thanks for the meal 🤓
5 likesThe female interrogator is a rookie, not every single statement said by the Interrogator's is a "tactic".
5 likes@Charles yeah she was really bad the whole time she became active in participating. She came in too early with revealing that they had proof because she was too excited to jump in, and just went overkill the remainder of the interrogation.
8 likesI didn’t think the 2 were really all that strategic. I think they were practically begging him to confess so they can get out n have some beer.
3 likes@Joao Pedro Catao nah, like the narrator says it was a rehearsed moment that they only used once it was clear the guy wouldn't budge, so they had to confront him with the evidence at that point, they planned it correctly. but i agree the crying and begging went too far
5 likes@Jessica Tseng That's how most interrogations are done. You need to cajole the suspect into revealing the details
1 like@KingRabid cringe
0 likesI’m so happy that “what pretending to be crazy looks like” showed up in my recommended videos. Binging through all of them and looking forward to more!
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That’s exactly how I started with this channel too! 😄
19 likesSame!
4 likesFacts
1 likeSame
1 likeThat is how everyone heard of this channel. I had never clicked on a murder / interrogation video and all of a sudden that video popped up. YouTube must be pushing it to distract us from something!
6 likes@doomsfear I know it for long time already before that video.
3 likesFucking same, Imagine that
1 likeRight 😭
0 likessamee. sucha cool channel with great vids, glad i watched that video lol
0 likesYup, like 4/5 days ago, now I’ve watched so many lol
0 likesSame!!
0 likesSame girl lol ur gorg
0 likesSame story for me
0 likesSame!
0 likesSame!
0 likesIt’s seriously the best channel ever
0 likesSo if innocent people did not get murdered you would have nothing to binge-watch happily....?
0 likesHey
0 likesI find this so sad. He killed her over basically nothing, ended her life and destroyed his own. What a massive waste.
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He basically ended her life because it jeopardized his work success. Imagine that. Dying so that someone can stay manager at what is basically olive garden.
366 likesHe had no life
42 likes@Bog Meat more like a Denny's lol
33 likesI heard this on some tv show: you’ll never get into the killer’s mind while still projecting your own moral values onto them. You’re trying to imagine what kind of profound situation they must have found themselves in to become a murderer. But that’s just wrong. People who are capable of murder kill for the most insignificant reasons because that’s how little the lives of other people matter to them.
169 likes@BLACK face Hardon He had life, just made a wrong choice.
17 likesDrugs, they influence your judgement
14 likesso true. that's why they only cry at the prospect of their life ending, never shedding a tear for the ones they've destroyed. "i'm going to die in jail wah wah wah". yet he strangled, burned, and dumped that little girl.
47 likesHe killed her for his future, but by doing so only ruined that future beyond repair. Truly a perfect example of irony.
28 likes@Доктор Зойдберг everyone is capable of murder. even you. when emotions run high, common sense goes out the window.
22 likes@Bog Meat u can't stay a manager if you fucking go to jail tho? I suggest ur wrong
0 likes@Доктор Зойдберг fuck me this is such a good point.
1 like@Gryphon Ennis Not everyone is capable of murder of course. We are not all fucking plain animals.
9 likes@Abdul Rehman Mian Exactly. Pharmaceutical drugs completely distorted his perception, emotions, and aggression. It's a shame for all people involved.
1 like@J Mart nobody cries at other peoples lives ending. NEVER. If they do, its called an act. Stop being so full of yourself. Normal people might cry once or twice or 100 times, but by the time they're in court or whatever, all the tears have long washed away all emotions.
3 likesOur bodies adapt. We cannot stay forever in emotional agony. Thats why we eventually forget our ex, or any tragedy, and eventually move on. Same thing with the death of another. So if you dummy see someone crying over the death over another, its an act, especially since most people control their emotions around people and only let them out when alone/with close ones, or just dont show them
its because of people like you that all the psychopaths are mistaken for good kindhearted people, and all the good people are mistaken for psychopaths
@J Mart He definitely was also crying over what he did to her, hence "I'm so sorry Savannah" and "What is wrong with you, Savannah was nice to you"
7 likes@Nia i would agree
0 likes@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Maybe so, I just don't understand his logic. He could've easily gotten another job at a restaurant. There were so many other possible outcomes.
1 like@J Mart self preservation. If only people put more thought into things like treating others as of theyd like to be treated..
1 like@Gryphon Ennis no. I may kill in self defense, but that’s not murder. That guy created the entire debacle. Even if I was that aggressive, I’d still never put my life on the line for a few moments of control over the victim. Violence is just too messy. In almost every situation there’re hundreds of ways to deal with it differently.
1 likeIn this case, he could have quit his job before anyone in management found out about their relationship. Or come clean to the boss and try to talk them out of firing him. It’s some shitty restaurant for fucks sake, not Vatican City, this no dating coworkers policy can’t be that strict. He could have asked Savannah to quit and offered her a great recommendation letter and/or some money in exchange. Finally, he could have done nothing and taken his chances. The worst thing to happen would have been him getting fired. Still better than going through a trial (even if the jury believed his ridiculous claim of self defense). By killing her he made his best case scenario becoming a suspect for a long long time until the case would be dropped due to lack of evidence (doubtful). Which means anything’s easier than trying to silence the girl forcefully. That’s how normal logic works.
This guy thought that threatening his ex with violence is easier because he doesn’t give a shit about other people’s safety. Or life.
@Abdul Rehman Mian no, they eliminate it.
0 likes@Доктор Зойдберг it's called sociopathy.
0 likesSo much potential just to go to waste like that it's just disappointing
0 likes@Доктор Зойдберг That may be the case with regards to disregard for the value of lofez but you would think the high probability of getting caught (especially if you are clearly not very bright or criminally minded like this guy clearly wasn't) and found guilty with life in prison or death would make you think twice even if you don't see any moral issue with murdering someone.
0 likes@Gryphon Ennis a murder out of passion is different than a calculated killing, not everybody is capable of a planned deliberate murder.
1 like@Gryphon Ennis disagree sorry
0 likes@Jena Cide exactly LMAO
0 likes@Jena Cide Okay, there is no such thing as a loser unless you watch anime. Happy?
0 likesKarma
1 likeI wonder if he would cry if he didn't get caught
1 like@RockyHorror would you ?
0 likes@RockyHorror karma?
0 likesSMFH
@BLACK face Hardon yes a life for a life
1 like@RockyHorror ohhh he got death penalty?
0 likes@BLACK face Hardon would I what?, and no but he lost his life due to prison and she lost hers because of his cruel act and that's karma and that's all I was saying
1 like@Tao Paille-Paille Yes we are and yes we are.
0 likes@RockyHorror oh ok ..well he didnt lose his life ..sum Morons dont mind life in prison ...3hots and a cot 😍😍😍❤❤❤
0 likesBut to Hell with his own life, just poor her. Only one victim.
0 likes@J Mart Yes, there is no remorse over the murder, just that he got caught. We must never confuse the two, though I'm pretty sure the Prosecutor never lets anyone there forget.
1 like@Jeff's Boy Nicky THAT'S MY FUCKING POINT!!!
1 likeand it's such a beautiful day...
0 likesit was accidental watch the end. he meant to self defense when savannah started slapping him, he later realised he accidentally killed a person
1 like@Bog Meat it was accidental watch the end. he meant to self defense when savannah started slapping him, he later realised he accidentally killed a person
1 like@Antti Ranne Do you have a timestamp? I didn't catch that.
1 like@Antti Ranne Nevermind found it. That's only his defense, he doesn't have any evidence justifying the claim. I find it highly suspicious, given the circumstances. Imo it's more likely he killed her intentionally.
0 likesI will kill for a Klondike icecream bar right now!!
0 likes@Доктор Зойдберг very valid point. This is why you'll see some investigators never get a confession because they're constantly trying to the gather the "why" and not the "how".
0 likes@Antti Ranne self defense plea would easily be thrown out. They'll use his height, weight, and age against him and display how the victim was smaller, younger, and more fragile and include that into how could he have feared for his life for just being slapped. Being slapped is not a viable defense for self defense. This was no accident. The only defense that could be tried is the use of his drugs affecting his moral judgement and possibly get him a lesser charge. But hiiiighly unlikely. Especially if they obtained a confession.
0 likes@J Patillo you know, that “why” part is always kinda dumb and I always want to roll my eyes at it. Maybe a psychologist would want to know why, the police only cares about securing the conviction. Doesn’t even matter if the suspect is innocent sometimes
0 likesAgreed. He clearly didn't know how to own up to his own mistakes and was willing to blame others to the point of murder, at least in the heat of the moment.
0 likesHis attempts to save face at the end didn't look very appealing to say the least.
@sam Kayy , His sister killed someone?.
0 likes@Raccoon Nation You shouldn’t say that about a dead girl.
0 likesUpdate: Lee was sentenced to 40 years in prison for the murder of missing woman Savannah Gold in 2017. Lee Rodarte, 31, received his sentence nearly three years after he was charged with killing Gold. In the video, it says he initially pleads not guilty, which he does in 2019, but later in 2020 he plead guilty to murder in the second degree (murder that isn't premeditated and more of an in the moment action)
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thanks for the update
91 likes@knut hamsun what
91 likesThank you. I was looking for this before I searched it myself lol
14 likes@eShum just racist propaganda they're spreading
42 likes@knut hamsun A Black Persian killing a White Persona?
53 likesLet me get some of what you're smoking or use, like, words, MAN.
@knut hamsun ??
3 likes@Bobas WRLD It really saddens me, I almost feel sorry for him. Savannah could still be alive, and he could still be an honest working man living out his dream as a chef, and he ruined it all in a matter of minutes
45 likes@Tech he's not wrong
0 likesCan you give me the motive please
3 likes@Androktone May he
0 likesHad I watched this yesterday I World have never known
1 like@Player # 2 same, came here at the right time
0 likes"40 years" What happened to justice?
4 likes@Thomas That was the first thing I thought when I saw that. It was determined to be second degree and they have video evidence of him showing remorse. It was honestly probably ruled like that just because it was a male taking the life of a female and for some reason that worse than anyone taking someone else's life.
5 likesA
0 likesIs this normal in the States where 2nd degree murder gets such harsh sentence. 40 years is crazy compared to other countries
8 likes@HackdotX how? their comment literally doesn't make sense. Literal gibberish
0 likesSavannah had a 21 tattoo, it was her jersey number in sports, the age she was killed and the year Rodarte is sentenced to prison.
11 likes@Thomas what do you mean? is it too less?
0 likes@Panagiotis Lemontzis Well I can give you Lee's motive, but it won't make sense because there is almost nothing that can excuse the murder of an innocent young woman. He killed her because he was scared of losing his job, Savannah said she would spread lies about him sleeping with her so he would get fired because as the manager it was in Lee's contract to not have sexual relations with any employee. He couldn't deal with the stress and acted emotionally (this is why it was second degree murder rather than a planned out murder)
14 likes@Thomas I believe it is justice. Lee will be 68 years old, and its clear from this video he already regrets his actions. It was murder in the second degree, and for that I don't think he deserves a life sentence. Savannah's death was a tragedy but I do believe Lee will have changed by the end of those 40 years and nothing is gained from keeping a future "good" man in jail. People change, and there are consequences to every action, Lee will have changed by then surely and he will have accepted the consequence of a 40 year sentence.
7 likes@Mittens First degree murder is almost always a life sentence. Second degree murder is not as bad but its still murder. I don't know too much about the legal system but the punishment fits the crime here in my opinion
3 likes@Mittens Yes. unfortunately. Where do you come from? Europe like me? I. always tell my son to be thankful not to live in the USA - when it comes to get sentenced, because your life could be over.. Of course he took a young womans life, but I think it's way too harsh in such cases
4 likes@BB How is it too harsh? He shouldn’t have killed her in the first place tf? Imagine your child getting killed and then he gets like 10 years. How would you feel? And who’s to say that he won’t do it again…(btw he brutally beated 75% of her body so yeah..)
22 likes@JustFunGames Not beated, burned
1 likeThanks dude
0 likes@1 2 to be fair,I don't think anyone would want UK laws... I would say about 40% of them are complete illogical.
2 likes@KA.Powered There are more people in US jails than in the rest of the world put together and the right to bear arms is in the constitution. Someone ought to do the mathS one of these days and correct this incorrectional equation.
1 like@BB I actually feel your sentences are way too lenient. Btw that’s an awfully odd thing to tell your kid to be thankful for lol
2 likes@Test Account.... odd, for telling him to be grateful not to live in America for many other reasons?
0 likes@BB you specifically said it’s better to live in the UK because the sentencing for crimes is much harsher in the US. I mean I guess but out of a million reasons to say the UK is better you chose that.
1 like@Test Account yey, I told him that too, because if you run into a crime by accidents you can end up in jail for 20 years, too. I come from Germany, not UK
0 likes@Test Account but you are right, the sentences for child abusers for example are way too lash down here
0 likes@JustFunGames yeah, I must agree somehow....
0 likes@BB Yeah I'm from Canada, and frankly how the US handles things is terrifying. For making a mistake 40 years is kinda ridiculous. Yes, it is awful and no one should have to go through that and the parents didn't deserve it and we can go on and on. But 25 years is far more than enough time to come out a changed person.
2 likes@Dawgisdirty *afro-iranian.
0 likes@Cody Isnor quite strange so if ur good at acting and fake remorse ull get away with the harsh sentence
1 like@Jake Rubin irrespective it's a murder? n losing a job wouldnt mean he would never find another one. It's strange u get ur sentence reduced by faking remorse. At the end he is a murderer n he is still getting to live his life with free food.
1 like@Cody Isnor how do u conclude this as a mistake.
1 like@JustFunGames "Imagine your child being murdered and" That is probably the dumbest approach to a fair evaluation of a sentence.
0 likesThanks for the update. The producer might want to make a new version of this video - few of his others are inconclusive like this. Also, I don't understand why he killed her. It makes me wonder if any of this was explained in the trial. How did they find her body? I guess it was based on his confession, but the producer doesn't have that part.
1 like@Panagiotis Lemontzis the prosecutor must have had to suggest some kind of motive at trial. But this video was made before the trial, and doesn't include his confession, so we don't even know what he claimed his motive was. Or whether his confession was excluded as evidence and it contradicts his self defense story.
0 likes@Jake Rubin he might have said that but I don't believe it. Near the end of this video he says to himself, "you could have just told her to leave you alone." I wonder if they had a fight and he lost control, or if he lured her into the car to kill her. I guess if it was 2nd degree murder, the jury found it wasn't premeditated.
0 likesThank, god!
1 likeAdore updates under the videos
1 like@Jake Rubin yeah i get you but at the same time no matter how far im pushed in these kind of situations with relationships or work i would never go as far as to kill someone or even hurt them. People like him or a ticking time bomb. If not Savannah it would have been someone else.
1 like@Cody Isnor he murdered a 21 year old girl in a parking lot. He crossed the ultimate line and she will never come back yet he gets to walk the earth for the rest of his life, call me crazy but absolutely fuck that.
1 likeThanks.
0 likes@nichrossi It is a murder, in the second degree. If you think he deserves a life sentence and that so do all second degree murderers then there's no point in even making the distinction, and that's a valid thing to say. I think there is, but I guess we disagree. Fair enough
1 like@Kevin Morgan Yeah that's true. Like I said before to someone else, I think second degree murder deserves a lesser sentence. The average American lives 72 years, Lee will be 68 when he's out so he's practically serving a life sentence. But if you believe second degree murderers deserve life sentences too that's a fair thing to say, we just disagree
0 likes@Jake Rubin yeah I’ve read your comments after I wrote mine and I agree with pretty much everything you say. I just wonder if people like that just have it in them to kill because thinking now I’m sure if given another chance he wouldn’t kill her knowing the consequences. Crazy video anyway. Thanks for the updates too.
1 like@Cody Isnor yeah, here in Germany for example rules the opinion that a society has to take the risk of the dangerousness of individual members. That's how it is in a welfare state
0 likes@Thomas ok it seems that you wanted to get me wrong. But maybe I expressed my opinion the wrong way. I'm sorrry for that. Anyway, the justice system in the USA is very hard understandable for me. In our welfare state rules the opinion that a society has to take the risk of the dangerousness of their individual members - like I mentioned before. We don't know that "an eye for an eye". Most Americans believe in God and the Bible. I can't understand how this fits together...
0 likesTo anyone wondering: Lee was found guilty and sentenced to 40 years.
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You have brought great satisfaction to my day sir.
579 likes@TheBraveOne The trial did not even commence back when the video was made. Are you high?
600 likes@TheBraveOne he pleaded innocent on the basis of self defence. The jury found him guilty and he was sentenced to 40 years.
513 likes@TheBraveOne 😂😂😂 I hope I never find myself at your current level of confusion.
442 likesJust realized this thread is today's. I wish u guys great rest of the week ahead.
160 likesHis sister killed someone too, Rodarte’s sister, Amber Camarillo, 26, is jailed in connection with a 2016 killing at a Jacksonville motel.Camarillo allegedly shot and killed Raquel Lee Wallace, 32, last December at a Super 8 Motel after a disagreement over a car, police said. Motel surveillance video shows the two women talking. It also shows Camarillo firing at least two shots at Wallace.
203 likes@Baby Girl wow, that’s crazy!
41 likesWow imagine having two murderers as children. Parents went wrong somewhere.
273 likesWow thanks
4 likes@BlackStream bruh
1 like@Baby Girl that's actually kinda sad to know. Clearly there's some temperament issues in the family, leading to irrational acts of violence. You could hear him saying "you were supposed to be better than this;" perhaps he wanted to rise above this flaw in their genetic code and/or upbringing.
147 likesI'm glad both of them are getting the sentences they were given, but it's still a tragic situation.
Wow! Thanks
1 likeOnly 40.. what a shame
35 likes@Baby Girl very great English writing 👍
0 likeshe was sentenced in march you freakin dopes..... look it up before calling someone a liar?
1 like@TheBraveOne 🥴 are you slow?
10 likesPathetic, why not LIFE without PAROLE, our system is messed up
13 likes@Shelley Landgren because it was 2nd degree murder
20 likes@Shelley Landgren at his age 40 years is pretty close to life. What difference does it make? Vengeance doesn't equal justice.
43 likes@TheBraveOne Overheared "pleaded" too ^^
0 likes@Anastasia’s Gaming If thats supposed to be sarcastic, i literally copied and pasted that information from a news website.
3 likes@Sawyer Either way, many life sentances aren’t actually life sentances. 40 years is longer than most life sentences.
7 likes@A Guy Named Kevin 😅 that's good one
1 likeShocker
0 likes@Andrew Ferguson LMAO of course they put the "Florida man" in the title
4 likesHope bubba takes good care of him..
2 likesWow nice timing
3 likes@Shelley Landgren a life sentence is only 15 years. they did the girl justice by NOT giving him life, and sentencing him to his 40 years.
9 likesLol he can get wrecked
0 likesthank you sir.
0 likes@A Guy Named Kevin i'm fairly certain he was making a joke :)
1 likethank you!
1 like@Shelley Landgren 40 years as a 28 year old. At best he can expect to be released at 68 with no family, no high paying job qualifications, his parents will most likely pass on by then so no place to live. His life is done or rather his life experience is predominately confined to a jail cell.
13 likesBRUH THIS IS WHY I SHOULDNT GO THROUGH THE COMMENTS 12 MINS IN- ONE COMMENT ALWAYS SPOILS IT
6 likesThis warms my heart.
1 likeCaught himself slipping when he referred to Savannah in past tense, I’m surprised the narrator didn’t mention that part at 9:53
14 likes@TheBraveOne dude what are you talking about
0 likesDid they release the edited part of the video?
1 likeWoohooooo!!
0 likes@TheBraveOne March 16 2021 He was sentenced to 40 years in prison.
0 likes@TheBraveOne Are you OK it clearly wasn’t self-defense
1 like@TheBraveOne I think you were the one not listening buddy lol
2 likesthats crazy if he lives till 60 hell still have a couple years to live kinda nutty to think about
1 like@BlackStream oh you’re right o: I hope you had a good day as well!
0 likes@dunbar555 it’s always “Bubba”🤣🤔.
1 likeWhy is that?
@Baby Girl Sorry for their parents.
1 like@TheBraveOne that's not how the world works, dummy.
0 likes@Andrew.h he aint gonna make it out of prison... they have their way with guys that are female killers
0 likesFull video released. YouTube it. And also..the quality is way better. Always wondered why the quality always sucks like its 1970 footage..now I suspect JCS for some reason makes it blurry. Lol
3 likesAnyways it's full and unedited and over 5 hrs long. A lot of the confession is hard to understand cuz he's sobbing while he gives it so...kinda hard without JCS to add his subtitles.
40 years that’s it?
2 likesnadun lochana you get pleasure from two lives being ruined? Somehow I don’t think it’s because you’re such a great paladin of justice...
2 likes@Sleepy Joe exactly. Awful situation all round. Two lives ruined. I get no satisfaction from this man being jailed, although it is necessary. Terrible situation all round.
6 likesthank you for the update!
0 likes@BlackStream thank you!
0 likesCan we get a spoiler alert?
0 likesWell technically I doubt he planned the murder ahead of time to be murder 1. Not commenting on his POS status, just how the law works and classifies murder degrees.
0 likes@John Bravo revenge is not justice. Our society is beyond barbaric if we have no path for forgiveness. Our lives are a small dot in time.
1 like@MoahGentle How does ending his life equals justice? His life will just cease, he won't feel anything more, won't have any fears, won't feel any pain, regret, guilt, won't have nothing to worry, won't have to deal with people, won't have to face his consequences, won't pay for his acts, won't bring anything good at all. I'm sure he will be passing a lot of time wishing to be dead. Having to live through what you done is way worse.
1 like@TheBraveOne There's always one person who is too dumb to realize it. We found em
0 likesty
0 likes@Josh G why? nobody who is sane ready comments before watching the video.
1 likeThank you!
0 likes@Kateri Allie hello sir 🤲🏿
0 likesThat’s it!
0 likes@Earth Bruja yeah this guy said his mom did a lot of heroin
0 likesThank you
0 likes@John Bravo already happened in a sense. My daughter was taken advantaged by her uncle and we both forgave him. It was a necessary step for her to move on. I believe in eternity. There is plenty of time on the other side. Revenge is not justice.
1 like@A Guy Named Kevin no kidding 😂
1 like@TheBraveOne Lmao this dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about and decides to disgrace the entire country when he’s wrong
0 likes@Baby Girl there should be a scientific research, maybe marrying, having childs and having a family is not for everyone,
0 likesmaybe violence and temperamental features are written more in some particular people genetic
The female detective so gooood , I started confessing random stuff when she start pleading and crying.
1 like@A Guy Named Kevin IMy new Theme Slogan! Thanks for letting me laugh my ass off Bruh! Have a GREAT Day Sir!
2 likes@MoahGentle yeah i totally agree with you and he made her look bad the poor girl justice system is just ridiculous worldwide I think its too light
0 likesGood bc i was ready to rage in the comments about how tf he was declaired not guilty
0 likesThats it
0 likesWill be released on parole after 12 years for good behaviour ...
0 likes@Christina blakley Lol Thanks, you as well!😁
1 like27 years of which he served while giving his testimony in court.
1 like@Adam Pierce Lol Maybe. If he was, he was a successful troll. 😂
0 likesNice spoiler
0 likes@MetroM Why read the comments before finishing the video? Lol
0 likes40 years?? didnt he get life in prison in video?
0 likesThanks! I was waiting for this so much
0 likesnice
0 likesGood. Should have gotten life though
2 likes@MetroM Cry more bruv the reason I said this is cus it isn’t in the video so it’s not a spoiler. You already know he’s guilty of the crime
1 like@MoahGentle You cannot get out in 15 years off a 40 year sentence for murder. Are you high?
0 likes@Baby Girl Criminal family.
0 likesAnyone find anymore information about what happened? As far as the missing video clip?
0 likes@nadun lochana Kinda sad for him, it was an accident
1 likeI came here for this thank you 😊
0 likesThankyou
0 likes@TheBraveOne I'm so sorry man for the replies you just didn't listen long enough
0 likes@TheBraveOne U are slow
0 likes@Andrew.h Their was no jury, it was a plea agreement.
0 likes@A Guy Named Kevin Because there funny as hell and most ppl read comments in between watching vids.
0 likes@Andrew.h Yea I noticed. My apologies.
1 likeWhy so much
0 likes@A Guy Named Kevin shadee lol
1 like@A Guy Named Kevin username from TCAP?
0 likes@Bsn8810500 Yeah, a guy named Kevin told me to come and comment here...
1 like@A Guy Named Kevin what is his last name?
0 likes@Bsn8810500 I don't know, we just met on the base!
0 likes@A Guy Named Kevin why are you sweating so much?
0 likesIt’s amazing she was called in missing within 2 hours. That almost never happens!! Glad the PD took it seriously!
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I think that's why the woman cop was so hard on him. Because she wanted to find where she was while she was still alive.
51 likesI thought the same thing! Usually they wouldn't do anything; they'd think she just ran off with a guy/friends, was out partying, or just mad at her parents or something. I was pleasantly surprised that they took it seriously as soon as it was reported! Sad how it turned out, though. I think the police really wanted and hoped to find her alive.
25 likesWell it was a pretty white girl 😂.
59 likesKorri Roth it’s astonishing seeing as how it’s Florida.
3 likesYea it was a white female who gone missing in a nice neighborhood
38 likesThis is because of the texts this idiot sent from her phone. If he hadn't of done that, nobody, except him, would have known she was missing.
54 likesMama Poch yep. I don’t know the man (thankfully) and no way of knowing if the drugs made him do that. Maybe he’s just stone cold stupid naturally, but I’m sure his habit didn’t help thinking. Even a half wit wouldn’t fire off those texts randomly.
6 likesKorri Roth she’s white, so of course police took it seriously.
15 likesDepends on the jurisdiction. Some allow instant missing persons reports, some make you wait 24 hours.
2 likesIt's amazing you exist, you look nice
0 likesThe messages he sent from her phone were obviously the red flag.
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0 likesIf she had been black, the plot twist would have been that the cops did it.
2 likes@Chris Mitchell Thats probably because she would have been killed by the cops.
2 likesAnd the idiot probably put them on the case sooner than they would have otherwise by sending those texts to her family.
2 likesSeriously they didn’t dig up the kids from the crazy end of the world couple until almost a year later
0 likesChris Mitchell smh sad but true
0 likesI gotta believe had this young lady been black this wouldn't have been take so seriously so quickly
3 likes@Jamil Salih exactly
1 likeOK, just so everyone knows, the 24 hour thing is a myth. That is not a thing its another movie and TV trope that bs in real life. For an adult they may not put full force into right away, but you dont have to wait that to file it
0 likes@Twan van der Donk creepy
0 likes@nicole meneses Creepy how? It is a simple compliment :)
0 likesJamil Salih: lol. Not that there’s anything funny at all about the fact that this girl was murdered. But I literally had written the same thing, more or less. But I erased it cuz I didn’t feel like hearing the bullshit comments that would’ve likely followed it. Real talk, tho. Straight up.
1 like@Duece Staine A
0 likesNever ever wait 48 hours before calling the cops. Statistically speaking, they're dead after the first day.
0 likesNot that amazing.. Remember the texts?
0 likesBecause of the odd text and abandoned car with personal belongings inside. If your planning on running away you take clothes you take money and you typically take your car
0 likesSingle white female barstaff. Surprised they waited that long.
0 likesBtw.. All of y'all who keep commenting on colour.. Your'e the ones keeping racism alive.
1 likeIt’s because she was pretty, and young, and white.
0 likes@Morten Kittelsen Yes, denial will work. Sure.
0 likes@Fernando G What are you talking about?
0 likesHer autopsy was released and showed no drugs in her system for those who may want to know
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That literally means nothing. Drugs pass from your system within 24-36 hours.
85 likesYou all are talking about how long it takes drugs to leave a living body. The autopsy report was on a dead body. I don’t think dead people are metabolizing any drugs in their system or continually excreting them through urine or poop or even sweating. You guys are googling the wrong data. You’re arguing apples to oranges trying to discredit the autopsy report.
490 likesJust like a victim’s last meal it doesn’t go anywhere so at autopsy days or weeks later they can still tell what you last ate.
In a living body by the end of the day your breakfast is long gone. You can’t compare the two and expect the same results.
I think the OP is pointing out another lie that this guy told that was proven untrue. Lies that hurt a person or a victim’s reputation needs to be set straight in the public record for both them and their families and loved ones sake.
Desperate people make up all kinds of sick stuff in an effort to get out of trouble too many people believe it to be true and the victim can’t set the record straight in their own defense.
He’s probably telling the truth about the heroin. It has like a 30 minute half life and is out of your system insanely fast
13 likesI literally just commented about her autopsy showing no drugs for those who were curious to know that’s all, I don’t understand why I’m getting replies saying that it doesn’t prove anything... I never said it did
141 likes@Kerstin Nilsson that's no true. Heroin has a half life of roughly 6 mins however once in your body it metabolizes into morphine. Morphine, depending on weight, metabolism, roa, can stay in your system for days. I'm a recovering addict I know this stuff 1st hand.
56 likes@soshistars I was wondering the same thing, your harmless comment sparked an argument somehow.
43 likes@Kerstin Nilsson it doesn't really work like that, they(heroin) leave behind metabolites that stay long after that can be traced. Not to mention different tests are more or less likely to show up longer, like hair and nail folicle tests will show for way longer. If she was indeed an addict or even on the stuff when she died then it would be in her system still either way. So yes, he was more than likely lying that she was high when he killed her because her body would've stopped metabolizing it at that point.
27 likes"that means nothing--"
61 likesno, it means everything bc he was literally claiming that this all happened while she was high and hitting him when he was assaulting her in the back of his car. not only was she not high, but she also was probably only hitting him for self defense.
Blackadder RIGHT. Thank you.
6 likes@Spit823 Where do I get drugs that are not detectable after 36 hours?
9 likes@Michael Myers maybe caffeine?
2 likesDamage, Inc. .lmaoooo
0 likesanyways chae pfp 🥺
0 likesFab G Drugs don’t magically evaporate, they leave your body through secretions such as urine, feces, and sweat. If she was on drugs when she died then the drugs would still be in her system. Drugs don’t naturally decay either, they are broken down by the body and turned into metabolites that leave through secretions. We use these metabolites as a way to detect for drugs. Heroine has a half life of a couple hours and then breaks down into 6-MAM (the metabolite used for detecting heroine) and can persist for days to weeks. Point is you people have no scientific training in toxicology and as such shouldn’t be questioning the report as if you do.
25 likes@Michael Myers LSD isn't detectable in a urine test before you're trip is even over(typically 12 hours) I don't know if it would even be detectable in other tests either seeing as the dosage for a trip is measured in micrograms, which are insanely small. I'm not 100% sure as it's been several years since I was into researching drugs, but from what I remember LSD is the most potent drug by weight on the planet. And even if you were to accidentally take 1000 doses worth at once, it's highly unlikely that you'd have any form of lasting physiological harm. Psychological is another matter, but it wouldn't directly kill you or damage your body.
2 likesKerstin Nilsson yeah but ima junkie man heroin def don’t make you paranoid
5 likes@JOHN DOE Yeah, at least when you're high. Possessing it can totally make you paranoid though, when you're close to sober at least. The kind of paranoid he is trying to claim only really comes with "upper" type drugs though.
3 likes@Spit823 maybe if there was no build up because you're not a habitual user but pretty much anything besides alcohol will still test positive for atleast 3 or 4 days.
0 likes@Spit823 only for blood or urine. It never leaves your hair until you shave it off
0 likesStephanie Campbell Who’s to say she was even a drug addict? You gonna believe the dude who murdered her? I don’t..
13 likes@Fab G Also, depends on what kind of analyzes you do
0 likesFab G. Nit true, cannabis can be in our system for weeks even months due to it beeing stored in the fat of the body. If you ever take drugs in you life it will show in your spinal fluid almost the rest of your life. If they take a pice of hair it can be maped out like the rings of a tree and will show cemicals that is not native to the body. Drugs kan be traced for a long time after use. BUT! It only stays in the blood for 24 hours or so
1 likeYall missed the point. He was a liar and possibly lied about more than just not MURDERING HER. We can assume he probably lied about her character as well.
21 likesThis is important as guys when they murder girls love to say they were the guy saying no to drugs
5 likes@Boo Peep Thank you! Thank you and thank you! You have conveyed that you are in fact a logical and analytical thinker who also understands empathy. Those two things are difficult to find in one human being. At least, this is what I have gathered from experience. You are right. People will make up anything to try and get themselves out of trouble. I do believe that this information is vital to Savannah's character. It proved that she was not in fact paranoid from heroin when she got into Lee's car. Anyhow, whoever got paranoid from heroin? Thanks for pointing out what should have been the obvious.
4 likes@Kerstin Nilsson And, based on that you assume that this lying murderer is telling the truth? I'm sorry but that is not enough evidence to conclude that this young lady was high on heroin when she got into his car. I, for one, don't believe anything that a murderer says especially when they are saying it to try and lessen their crime.
3 likes@Fab G Addarell what that does?.Sorry.Thanks.
0 likes@Spit823 heroin takes 2-7 days to get out of your system, and if she was taking it often like he said, it would've been in her system longer than 2 days.
3 likes@Spit823 not at all, some do some don't, many take a long time...for example pot takes about a month, many others have a long half life, coke passes through relatively fast
0 likes@Kerstin Nilsson its not nearly that fast, fastest is saliva at about 5 hr and blood about same, urine takes days
0 likesinconsequential. unimportant. drug use never warrants murder. not by cops, or anyone else
1 like@INTOODEEPSTL Stephanie Campbell, the pseudoname of a girl, was murdered by Lee Rodarte.
0 likesStephanie Campbell if that’s neither here nor there why’d you say it? That was a really stupid comment 🤦🏽♀️
0 likesFarmer Fpv ok so call me a nut job because I’m uneducated when it comes to hard drugs, makes sense 😂
0 likesWhere can we view it? It’s not that I don’t believe you...H will stay in your urine for a a week or less, more for a habitual user, but be undetectable in your blood after like, 3 days...that’s why mandatory drug screening uses urinalysis as their preferred method of screening. Pills tend to stay in the urine longer, and blood a Little linger but not much...not to say this dude isn’t a total POS and is in ANY WAY justified in what he did-and I could see him exploiting her being potentially active in her addiction as a way to discredit or devalue her existence, which is another low blow..Addiction is a disease, it’s the devil, and it’s a devil I know, so please understand that I leave this comment with 0% judgement...I’ve had friends who’s lives ended by straight up Obvious foul play, but because they were known H users their deaths were written off as either OD or potential suicide...I had one friend who was an addict for 20+ years...a “pro” if u will...when this mom of 3 who admittedly was no angel but a loving mom
0 likesDoing the best she could was found unresponsive with TWO new spikes laying next to her? We all knew there was something wrong...this girl was NOT suicidal, and didn’t NEED a backup...she certainly knew what she was doing, and none of her gear was damaged...it took them like a day to write her off as an OD...
Sadly, this assholes strategy to focus on her drug use was smart because (at least where I’m from) police hear “Heroin” and tend to just want to blame the one who was afflicted...glad it didn’t work out for him tho..
Source: Recovered addict of over 15yrs.
@Fab G thc can get out of your system in 72hrs if you only take 1 or 2 moderate hits. This is only the case if you have been completely clean prior to doing those few hits
0 likes@Jessica heroin gets out of my system in 2 to 3 days. Coke gets out of my system in 2-5 days. Thc can get out of my system in 2 or 3 days as well. If its only a few hits.
0 likesFollow The Grow does heroin make you paranoid?
0 likes@Jessica hell yes
0 likesI used to take opiates. I would get piss tested all the time and I don’t think I ever tested positive. They even tested my blood in the hospital one time after an accident to try to prove a dui and I had done morphine the night before and I tested negative. I think it just depends on ur metabolism, and piss tests, if you drink water a lot u can pass anything including marijuana.
0 likes@Fab G Agree, it depends on what test they give you..if its blood and urine some drugs can be out of your system depending on dosage...but if they tale a hair sample you are fucked
0 likesAnd she worked at Bonefish Grill? Unheard of. Someone has manipulated the toxicology report
1 likeThe fact that your comment got that many likes just shows ignorant most people are...*it's heart-breaking if you ask me
0 likesYeah cuz i was wanderin, if she accelerated her death by doing crackhead slapping stuff to the guy, a guy that in the end showed his "instability", but if not, as u say, he's the one into hard drugs. Thinking of how he noveld her addictions, how much he thinks it's Bad. Internet kinda cool whn u high
0 likes@Spit823 they don't get metabolized when you're dead.
0 likes@zobeya diaz really prob meth. he prob said that because they both show the same on a drug test.
1 like@aft no the one you wanted was blackened.
0 likes@Farmer Fpv they don't test for heroin they test for morphine or more specifically morphine metabolites which is what remains in your body after the morphine (which is what your body breaks H down to) is metabolized. hence 5-7 days usually more closer to ~5 tho for most people. also depends on the amount said person was using.
0 likes@trance dj Thank you.I always think of those ppl who kills in raged if you will.Why they can not stop in the moment what made them no able to do so,they born with anomalia pathologica with killings instincs.Humans are the most dangerous animal on EARTH.
1 like@Kerstin Nilsson that’s not true
0 likesMeth and heroin leave the system as fast as the buzz finishes that's why they are so addictive
0 likesNot relevant.
0 likes@GoVir4l yes. Yes I am.
1 like@Jessica meth, heroin, coke and a ton of pills and some steroids all get out of your system after like 3-4 days max
0 likeshe could have just said she was on heroin to make her look worse and maybe make it seem like that’s why she was “missing” after her being in his car
1 like@soshistars cause people are stupid, thanks for the info. I was curious as to whether that was even true or if he was just trying to tear down her character like many of these people seem to do.
2 likesYea, she looked clean cut, too clean for heroin.
1 like@soshistars lol, quick i have to find my comment and delete 😂
0 likesOf course not 🤬
0 likes@trance dj they don't
1 likeI almost knew that .. it didn't make sense.
0 likes@Boo Peep precisely what I was about to say before seeing your comment. Although, I don't know if burning her body might have contributed to removing any drugs present in her body. I know that in the case of activated carbon, soaking it in hydrogen peroxide, then subjecting it to intense heat will burn away all impurities it collected and recharge it for use in a water filter.
1 likeShe got cooked bro.
0 likes@Kerstin Nilsson doubtful, heroin addicts don’t go around telling people they just did heroin. Especially their manager at work.
1 like@Jack ✨❤️😄✨
0 likes@INTOODEEPSTL not in autopsies
0 likes@Spit823 not in autopsies
0 likes@Cheyne Smith addicts don't LOOK any sort of way. Are you serious? Do I look like a heroin addict? Do I look like a meth addict? I own a house. I drive a new 2020 Jetta. I have a wife of 11 yrs. Newsflash. I am.
0 likesUsually it's the cleanest cut people that hide it the best and are hiding a lot.
@xxthatsnotmexx you should know heroin is out of your system in about 3 days. I'm an ex addict of 5 years sober for 3. I've taken hundreds of piss tests and still do every 2 weeks. Heroin is in most cases out of your system in 3 days. EDIT: I don't think she was on drugs when she died. She could have been on drugs in the past. Or it could have been a story made up by Lee at the beginning of his interview to discredit and give savvanah a bad image. There are lots of hard drugs that leave your system in 3 days though at least through urine tests. I'm not arguing about savvanah could have been an addict thats speculation. I'm arguing there are drugs that leave your system in 3 days at least detectable from urine.
0 likes@Kerstin Nilsson as a heroin addict myself I can promise you it stays in the hair for 90 days. ive done jail time for failing one after 2 months clean.
0 likes@A human, being this is true for a person STILL ALIVE. Dead people do not secrete anything.
0 likesThanks for the info. Also seems to be some non believers here. It’s very sad they couldn’t do a hair follicle test because that would’ve been truly definitive. I suppose all her hair was burned off when douche was trying to burn the body. I really hope someone is waiting for him the moment he steps out of that prison.
0 likes@Aquascape Dreaming can you tell me how the flux capacitor works & can you find out if the James Webb space telescope is ever going to launch. You seem like the person that could get some answers. 😃
0 likesExpected. Men who like to harm women always lie and take it to the extreme.
0 likesI wonder if there’s any interrogations we could watch where a guilty suspect was able to convince the investigators they were innocent, only to get caught later through more evidence?
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Check out Larry Nassar's first interrogation video.
25 likesHahaha your handle is pretty funny
9 likesTed Bundy but vidoes might be taken down I guess
1 like@Ashley Dempsey that's a gd classic lol, one of the best videos of all time
3 likes@Ashley Dempsey would definitely love a link
1 likeTons, im sure. Usually its the real social ones who also have no conscience.
1 like@What do you live for? - his avatar is a picture of charlie from "always sunny" wearing mack's optical patdown sunglasses.
0 likes@Madeline Harper just search it on YouTube. Came up right away for me
0 likesIt's such a small thing but the fact that he mentioned that she had it rough growing up makes me so angry. He knew her , knew of things she'd been through because she'd trusted him enough to tell him about it and he still took her life and dared to try to make her look bad to save his own ass .
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I had the same reaction. This makes him an even bigger POS for surr
37 likesPoor girl. She would have grown up and been someone's wife, someone's mother. someone's soulmate has been murdered for his selfishness. Vile.
29 likesI agree. Also this comment just made me realise I don't actually know why he killed her? Did they end up saying why? Was he angry at her for something or jealous or.. did you guys pick up on it? Not that there is any excuse or reason for something like this 😔 I'm just curious.
17 likesNah
9 likesThat is simple psychology.
If somebody has a rough childhood they are more likely to have an addiction or to be mentally ill
That was what he tried to let them believe
Idk about somebody with a rough childhood whos parents call the police after they disappear for 2 hours.
(Sorry for my english)
@peterthehansmann don't worry your English is good! While that is a possibility I feel the need to politely disagree on that last part..? Abuse often comes from parents but not always, you can be very close to your family and still have experienced some kind of trauma; it can be a domestic incident, a fire, explosion.. sexual abuse, which is much more common, especially with children, than people think and will scar anyone for life, or even just disorders or health issues, Americans have a terrible healthcare, any child growing up with some kind of disability or illness will struggle immensely, dysphoria and dysmorphia, chronical depression, chronic pains...
7 likesTrauma works in many different ways, I know you're not trying to downplay anyone's experience but it's important to keep in mind :')
As for this specific case you're right, we'll never know
@Ron the Ron yea ist actually agree to your statement but in this case he tried to let them believe that he was doing way worse than it actually was (i think)
2 likesI actually*
0 likes@peterthehansmann he cried..
0 likes@Okay M8 thats what he said.
0 likesYou could propably never tell why he did it.
You cannot trust somebody who said things like that
@cindi locket ist guess her family is still crying
0 likes@Cindilas why do people always say this when a woman gets murdered? you didn’t even speak about what she herself could’ve done, only what some non-existent people missed out on. it’s kind of bad when you think about it.
6 likes@demi bk Stop white knighting. Obviously it's sad regardless of the perspective when any young person with potential dies prematurely. I am a man, I think of things in terms of bloodlines and lineage. It's just how men think biologically, so of course it's sad that she didn't get to experience love to that degree and have a family.
2 likes@Okay M8 lmfao. Patrolled.
0 likes@Cindilas lol, white knighting for who? i’m a woman myself. if men actually thought like that, they’d say it about other men that get murdered too - which i have literally never seen, unless they had a wife or child already. fair enough if you do, but i’ve never seen men spoken about like that.
7 likes@Okay M8 do you use derogatory terms for sexually active men as well? lmao
1 likeWere you not listening, he was making up stories and lying for five minutes straight. I’m sure a good 10% of that was real
0 likes@Ghosty Frost Were you not listening, he was making up stories and lying for five minutes straight. I’m sure a good 10% of that was real
0 likesYeah, murderes tend not to care about that kinda thing.
0 likes@Ron the Ron a rough childhood doesn't always come from your parents. Sometimes they're the only thing that keeps it live-able. I speak from experience on this front.
0 likes@Bob Franklin yeah don't worry ahah, that's what I was saying
0 likes@Ron the Ron all good, I appreciated your well thought out and respectfully comments 👍. Good to see some dialogue on YT
0 likesIt makes me even more sad to know that her childhood and life wasn't great. He took her life away from her before she truly got to experience happiness.
1 likeThat is what narcissists do...
0 likes@Cindilas She could have been anything, not just somepne to a man. Her life had value in its own, not because she could have been a potential wife 🙄
0 likes@Iulia Ionela Petcu Yeah, that goes without saying. It doesn't need to be stated the loss of a life is sad for the person who dies. Obviously. But what I was stating that so many people seem to miss is that her death affects not just her, but many people in the future that will no longer have the chance to spend their lives in her company. It's not a reductionist statement as so many here seem to think, but rather an exaltation of the importance of a single human life on now just the individual, but potentially many other lives and bloodlines altered forever.
0 likes@Iulia Ionela Petcu is that really what you got out of that? Why be so petty?
2 likesImagine all the angry ghosts, who’s character get attacked but they can’t object.
1 likeLeave it to a female to focus more on slander and gossip than just the flat out murder
1 like@Jonathan Blind oooh yeah, a female . Or, you know, maybe this is just one in thousands of comments which all focus on different aspects of this case? Suggesting that I don't care about the murder just because I talk about alleged abuse makes no sense, chill out
3 likes@Cindilas it wouldn’t be a problem if it wasn’t said constantly by everybody to women about everything bad that happens to them. Then your defensive statement was “I’m a man, I think in terms of lineages biologically (whatever that means)” Reeing about “MUH MALE BIOLOGY, you don’t understand I NEED to be sexist” after u get called out isn’t a good excuse 🥸 evopsych fail
5 likes@sulana Okay dude. Cry more I guess. Already explained in my previous comment, but you people will find a reason to be mad at literally anything, especially if it's a man saying it.
0 likes@peterthehansmann To the contrary, if you have a rough childhood it might be because your parents are controlling and abusive. I'd been beat for coming home late from school. But even if her parents are responsible and loving and have the best intentions, it doesn't mean she didn't have a rough childhood. Many things could have caused that, we really don't know for sure. Her parents might not have been the cause, or maybe it was only one parent. All we really know is that it probably wasn't neglect.
0 likes@Cindilas dude just take the L
4 likesI thought that was a bit interesting too, using shit to paint her as bad. It’s not a guarantee, but he’s parents were suspicious of the random texts and called the police for help in under two hours, seems like she might have had a good family.
2 likes@Prince JellyFish What L? Cause I expanded the reasons why is a tragedy someone is murdered and some girls want to cry that "we're more than just that!" Well yeah, no shit, but the point was it has effects on everyone around her, not just her herself. But the girl power squad seems to assume I'm looking past her own loss and only making it about her relationship to other people, which I'm not, I'm simply expanding the depths to which a single death can have a ripple effect across time.
0 likesWhen he's crying and having an emotional breakdown at the end, his tears aren't for his victim. He is mourning his future. He knows his life is over. He knows his freedom is gone. He knows the rest of his days will be spent in a cage in the company of violent men. What a horrifying realization, to recognize that your life is essentially over. That's a hard reality, hitting you square in the face. I don't think I could handle it, knowing that my life is over and the rest of my days on this beautiful planet will be spent in the confines of a single room in a single building.
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It's a hard fate, but murder means that not only has he taken a young woman's ability to ever experience any of those things again, but he has also taken away a human being from her family - they will never hold her, smile with her, or enjoy life with her again.
121 likesYou're right, he's crying for himself.
I like the voiceover ... "its hard to watch this guy like this, but its ok not to feel bad for killers"
39 likesI've seen irrational moments from a lot of people. We are all capable of malevolence and turning into a murderer given the situation. Couple bad days and you might turn into him. And with this knowledge now u know u should be careful. He may have had aggression issues though.
22 likesThis was very elegantly said! I agree 100%. Such a surreal realization and moment! I couldn’t even imagine it, it’s almost like he is dying himself because all those visions of the future we anticipate to experience will forever be unfulfilled. He deserves it tho.
15 likesCol. Hans Landa Lee’s case displayed a level of irrationality that is abnormal. Sure he killed savanah, but he also burned and discarded her corpse and strategically planned a way to get away with it. That’s definitely not something we can all be capable of doing.
30 likes@Col. Hans Landa Would you like a fresh glass of milk??
3 likesMister Justice It's a hard feeling, it's gut wrenching ...def not worth ANY crime that lands you in prison or county jail. Yes I've been there in my STINKIN THINKIN 20's and it taught me a big lesson. I did my bit, got out to never return that was 27 yrs ago I'm 52 yrs old to date BUT nothin as serious as this ... Mine was drug dealing PCP
10 likes@Ernie the Giant Chicken Its total BS. We need harsher laws. Liberals have ruined our justice system.
9 likesErnie the Giant Chicken really? what the fuck is 5 years? People waste that amount of time on more trivial things. Or people live in worse hells like abusive relationships. Also imagine prisons in Canada yeah must be one of the easiest to get out alive and reasonably healthy.
2 likesNo matter how bleak things get the human body can be incredibly optimistic...almost a survival instinct. You're body knows and understands life will go on even if you consciously deny it
1 likeWhen in prison often times they transfer you between states so he might be able to do some traveling just not much sightseeing..
0 likesRest in Peace Ms. Gold
Well put , im a multi tour combat veteran that had the misfortune of being locked up for 991 nights in a max secure prison (level 4 yard) every day felt like 3 the violence didn't bother me as it was part of my life since my earliest memories , it's the sheer boredom constant talk and drama from full grown men . it can absolutely brake your human spirit and sense of life quickly if your not equipped to handle it . that was over 13.5 yrs ago since then I've gone to tech school (master Plummer) married with
7 likes2 kids a house and cabin I'm living life as slow as possible now . Be careful in those heated moments and listen to that voice of reason coming from your conscious . ✌
Yup. If he was going to be wracked with guilt and remorse after killing her, he wouldn’t have killed her. He decided her death was an acceptable outcome, but only if he got away with it. Reflecting about how he actually didn’t get away with it has just got to be tough. The Col. Russell Williams interview highlights this realization poignantly. He just didn’t see it coming.
5 likesBensoNNicK 16 “You will WAIT...... for the whipped cream.......”
0 likesIt’s worse than death. There’s drugs and violence and rape and gangs in prison. Righteous vengeance feels good, but academics and religion condemns that shit, it doesn’t work as a deterrent, and the morality of an eye for an eye would leave the world blind. Has to be another way man.
0 likesExactly. Hopefully that inspires people to live a righteous and criminal-free life.
0 likesNot in Europe where you get only up to 15 years for murder :p
1 likeyeah good thing it's really not that hard to just not murder people
3 likesi mean, its hard to cry for the victim in a moment where your life is over.
0 likesLuckily it's quite easily avoidable, by just not killing someone.
4 likesNot only that but u have to fight everyday and keep all eyes open cuz u never kno who will stab you out of no where
0 likesI don’t feel the least bit sorry for him. He may have ruined his own life but that was a side effect of the fact that he ended a woman’s life.
3 likesObviously
0 likesThese two...on Prince Andrew! I would pay!!
0 likesAnyone else notice the point he realises he might be being recorded and starts acting remorseful? Maybe he was but he suddenly went from "f***ing Savanna" to "you were nice to me" or something like that. From the sound of the injuries inflicted it was an act of rage and hate, it would be interesting to see a tox report for both of them. Two lives lost, it's just sad.
3 likesGod damn that last sentence hit like a truck. Man that’s scary
0 likesObviously lol. He even says “fucking savannah” in a way that makes it seem like it was her fault
1 likeSavannah also shouldn’t have been running her mouth in the backseat of the car
0 likesMister Justice this
0 likesMunches popcorn loudly It's a great show!
0 likesThe sad thing is our prison system is only going to make him worse and not better.
0 likesJust sounds like going to work
0 likes@Col. Hans Landa Uuuuuh....... colonel seems like you've seen a lot.
0 likesCol. Hans Landa lol speak for yourself
0 likesOr, he's crying for his victim after he made a rash decision out of anger and panic.
1 like"Evil is not elsewhere its you" - Jordan Peterson
@Intrspace in uk specifically, infuriating
0 likesWatching him cry just warms my heart 🥰
1 likeStephen LIBERALS have ruined the justice system? Take your tinfoil hat off please
0 likesHe's done
0 likesTo be fair he’s getting booked in the American prison system for murdering a woman. His life won’t last much longer
1 likeYou can tell that he is sincerely sorry...that he got caught.
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Everyone would be. The number one person in all our lives is ourselves, apart from perhaps when we have children.
16 likes@petef15 im glad [most] humans arnt like wild animals who only care about surviving. Imagine a world where we evolved from bears that eat their own offspring to survive
6 likesIt could have been an accident, you never know. If it wasn't, then certainly someone has accidentally killed someone else somewhere in the world. And the thing about accidents is... you never intend for them to happen. With that being said, I'm curious to know how you would respond if such a circumstance befell you. What if a chef serves someone raw meat by accident and it leads to their death? What if that was you? Would you lay yourself on the alter? Would you? Or would you hope it goes under everybody's radar? The truth is you don't know until you're in the middle of it and have to make a decision. That's why I don't mouth off about what I would or wouldn't do if I haven't personally lived it. Long ramble, I know, but only took a short minute to type.
29 likesI think he did have remorse ("Savannah was nice to you...") while it obviously wasn't self-defense, i don't think he wanted to kill her or it at least wasn't premeditated. They probably had an argument about her talking openly about the relationship, and maybe about the drugs, he became angry and wanted to beat her/scare her/shut her up and accidentally killed her, panicked and made a plan on the spot to text the family and hide the body. He might've been on something himself, or has serious anger issues/has abused women before.
36 likesA liar, woman-beater and murderer but not a premeditated murderer or a remorseless psychopath.
At least that's my take i'm not the detective idk lol
Mrdestiny17 bears do that cos they’re both starving and they know the baby bear won’t stand a chance on its own
1 like@petef15 Or fall in love.
0 likesI don't believe that. He was there by himself apologizing to his victim. He was beating himself up over it. He genuinely felt remorse. The true test of a person's character is when they're alone. And he was remorseful by himself. I feel for him, to an extent.
3 likes@I'm Jayelee I Wish I Were A Billionare I somehow don't think that was going through his mind. I don't think he had any ulterior motives there, as if he would think footage of him admitting he did it and saying he felt bad would cut him slack in court. Seemed genuine. Doesn't excuse what he's done, but at least there's something deep inside him.
1 likeDoesn't seem/sound like he's sorry Savannah lost her life... he's only sorry about how this will ruin his own life. Total narcissist!
3 likes@psiDaylight Agreed. Lot's of people here seem to think psychology is very simple, and every killer is some cold blooded psychopath. A shot in the dark is that maybe he had had rage control issues, went way too far, killed her and panicked. He's clearly grieving (for his own life mostly in this moment), but he is clearly remorseful for what he did to her. Cold blooded killers don't have breakdowns after they confess. They sure as hell don't apologize to their victims either.
3 likesWhen the gravity of the situation settles, I could bet that he'll be thinking about the lives he destroyed, and it'll weigh on him.
hey, i "liked' your comment, but that put the number up to 666 and i freaked out - so i had to delete it, but i LIKE your comment! haha
2 likesI’m not sure, even when it’s more a crime of passion than something planned, that these people ever miss the person or regret the person is gone. I just have a feeling that if you’re capable of those feelings you’re not really capable of crossing the line and also trying to cover up the crime.
0 likesgasai yuno Thank you. Apparently we lose empathy for other people when they have done bad things. People fuck up, some (much much much) worse than others. But this isn't the type of guy who I'd want to rot in jail. This is someone who genuinely is remorseful and has a high chance of rehabilitation in my opinion
0 likesMrdestiny17 exactly bc I know I would starve before I let my baby son starve an I know most would do the same but unfortunately there are a few humans out there that wouldn’t careless an only care for themselves sadly
1 likeTekaiGuy omg look the case up,it wasn’t an accident
0 likesKitt Whisky look the case up he’s a horrible person who kills periodt point blank
0 likesInterrogator: “How long have you known her?”
2761 likesLee: “Water. Earth. Fire. Air. Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar, master of all four elements, could stop them...”
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but when the world needed him most, HE VANISHED... ah lee
51 likesLol
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 like"You should have gone with. There's a million Lee's."
9 likesThis does put a smile on my face
8 likes😂
0 likesButterflies are insects in the macrolepidopteran clade Rhopalocera from the order Lepidoptera, which also includes moths. Adult butterflies have large, often brightly coloured wings, and conspicuous, fluttering flight. The group comprises the large superfamily Papilionoidea, which contains at least one former group, the skippers (formerly the superfamily "Hesperioidea"), and the most recent analyses suggest it also contains the moth-butterflies (formerly the superfamily "Hedyloidea"). Butterfly fossils date to the Paleocene, about 56 million years ago.
7 likes😂😂😂
1 like@Mr. Random Butterflies have the typical four-stage insect life cycle. Winged adults lay eggs on the food plant on which their larvae, known as caterpillars, will feed. The caterpillars grow, sometimes very rapidly, and when fully developed, pupate in a chrysalis. When metamorphosis is complete, the pupal skin splits, the adult insect climbs out, and after its wings have expanded and dried, it flies off. Some butterflies, especially in the tropics, have several generations in a year, while others have a single generation, and a few in cold locations may take several years to pass through their entire life cycle.
3 likesHoly fucking shit this made me laugh.
0 likesHahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahha
0 likes@Simon WoodburyForget but the more pressing question is to what extent are butterflies aware of their own existence? Do they wrestle with existential conundrums? Is their life cycle truly an evolutionary process, or is it actually a statement about change and rebirth? The prodigal infant, as it were, awakening to new revelations... Are butterflies trying to communicate the deeper questions of existence, and what change really means in terms of actuality, or metaphorical concepts? Are butterflies aware of the effects their mass has on the orbit of Jupiter's moon, Europa? I think they are. I believe they have a deep and instrinsic grasp of how they exist both terrestrially and celestially, simultaneously...
2 likesLMFAOOOOOOOOO
0 likesI absolutely love this
0 likeslmao
0 likes3 huge paragraphs talking about butterflies in the replies
0 likes@Julie McClendon yed
0 likes🤣🤣🤣100% the best comment
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesI'd be useless as a detective.
2047 likesThe guilty perp would be telling me all this stuff and my mind would just start wandering and I'd completely zone out, then they'd finish talking and I'd be like
"Yeah? Thats crazy..."
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i honestly started to zone out when he started rambling about how he knew her.
138 likesthe cops didn't need to pay attention to what he was exactly saying in this case they just needed a confession as well as frame the discussion in such a way to put indirect pressure on the sus and gradually ramp pressure hoping the psychological torture for hours on end gets the best of them, they have a standard algorithm they go through in order to get there
16 likes😂⭐
1 like@Baki Elh yeah? Thats crazy...
72 likes@Gord Kennedy hahahaha that’s funny💀. It’s like, yeah fam I realize what the detectives needed to do…😅
4 likesyup
0 likesFreakin hilarious dude. That's crazy.
3 likesPromoted right to chief of the department
3 likesT_T same mate
0 likes@Gord Kennedy it's all good
0 likes😂
0 likes"Really? Zamn"
3 likes🤣🤣🤣 do you need a ride home
2 likesTo Gord: These detectives are heavily trained.
0 likes@Baki Elh: This can only work when the detectives have hermetic, air-tight evidence, like the video. Without this -- Take a cold one.
0 likesI'll be like
2 likesMe: Did you do it?
Suspect: No
Me thinking: He's a tricky one.
good thing ur not a detective
0 likes@Rachel Boro
0 likes*u're
@Rachel Boro Your pappy
0 likesBahaha that’s what I always say during interrogations on YouTube they stop and I’m like omg that’s crazy lol tell me more lmao
0 likesDoes every chain restaurant have that one guy in his late 20s going after waitresses who are 19-21, and who is 100% that guy who has shirtless photos of himself wearing a sombrero and holding a bud light? Just seems like there’s a requirement every restaurant ever has, to fill at least one position with that type dude.
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Seems like Florida is the locale for most of this weird shit. I never quite got the reason why he killed this woman.
79 likesWhats wrong with a guy in his 20's dating a early 20's girl? On average males marry younger woman then them, that's been a thing since... ya know... the beginning of time.. I can see if he was in his mid 30's or 40's.
63 likesBoston Towny4life No I agree. Not really anything wrong with it in and of itself. More that it’s one piece of the overall combo I described. You get the feeling a lot of the girls work these jobs for a chapter of their lives while working on their education or something. Meanwhile, sombrero guy is just there..
112 likes@Chris Bollow oddly specific, which one stole the girl you liked?😂
30 likesMatthew Green oh now we’re just hurting feelings 🤣
40 likesDid you expect the understand anyone's reason for murder? It's just unreasonable lol
2 likesYes there is lol I was a waitress for 7 years and every restaurant had that one old dude trying too hard to be young
55 likesRobert Gardea the hell are you talking about? When did I ever say anything about teachers and students?!
5 likesThat's a phenomenon that will accompany any entry-level job
11 likesI was red lobster's version of the man you're describing in the early 2000s...
17 likes@Pris Flowers late 20s is not old lol
11 likesChris Bollow Yes, yes they do.
2 likesOne of my friends told me how when she worked at applebees one of the managers was always after the workers. No idea why it's so common
5 likes@Stephen Grigg probably because it works and he has a never ending supply of barely legal girls to creep on. Pretty shitty for a girl just trying to earn a living tho :/
20 likesI was 17, he was 30. I'm 50 now. It's awful to think of that young, naive girl. That experience was ugly and creepy.
18 likes@Boston Towny4life theres no rules on dating. Im 35 and i go for 20 yrs olds. Whats wrong with that?
6 likesDon't hate the player, hate the game. Not sure why you all think its wrong for someone whose 35 to date girls in their 20s. My coworker is 18 and she keeps trying to sleep with me and ive turned her down multiple times because of the stupid shit she says. It all depends on their maturity. Go outside more people.
9 likes🤣🤣🤣🤔 I feel like you're on to something
2 likesBlacky Chan yeah you missed the point.
5 likesThat's the F&B life for you !
0 likes@Blake agreed. , the main 3 objectives to lusting after barely legal woman is 1. there over 18 2. their mind and body are sound and most importantly 3. if they reject you take it like a man and realize that killing them might impare your promising future.
4 likes@Matthew Green the one with the shirt off. You caught on to that Lmao
3 likesThat might be just where they all land.
1 likeBlake yeah the age thing was only one characteristic out of a few, when describing the overall type of guy.
10 likesAll these 45 year old, white claw drinking, Applebee’s chefs getting their knickers in a twist.
Can confirm
1 likei used to work at an Outback, and i can say that we had one of these.
2 likesBoston Towny4life i mean, i’m 23, and even i would feel weird about dating a 19-20 year old lmao.
11 likesGreat observation. My guess would be this: you need to ask yourself, what kind of people usually become managers/chefs of chain restaurants. It’s usually dudes with no college degrees who have no real big aspirations but live check to check doing tasks a little less than boring (cooking). These dudes are usually 30 years old will chase any girl that gives them the slightest attention, including inexperienced girls ages 17-21
9 likes@Stephen Grigg once you move up in the restaurant business you need to really put in the hours. So basically, you have no life outside of the restaurant.
5 likesI am a waiter in my mid twenties and have worked for three different restaurants - yes. Every restaurant has that dude to some extent.
4 likesBut it is because being a good waiter requires charisma, and charisma means getting laid is easier. So if one is working with a bunch of young, beautiful women who are attracted to him, why wouldn't they sleep with them?
Nabael yeah I agree. Like I’ve said, that in and of itself I’m good with. I’m pointing out the overall level of doucheness.
1 like@Blake I think thats disgusting aswell, so your point is invalid.
4 likesChris Bollow there’s a lot of sex happening between workers in chain restraunts. Well atleast before the pandemic lol
1 likeYes sir that's a requirement
0 likesThis is 100% fact
2 likes@Blacky Chan gross and creepy
4 likesIt's a glitch in the matrix
1 likeI have worked in both high end fancy restaurants and low end dives. Basically every kitchen is filled with ex convicts, drug addicts, douchebags, rapists, you name it. Any asshole can cook and wash dishes.
3 likesYeah
0 likesBlake the weird thing I don’t like is that a 19 yr old just graduated high school probably doesn’t have their own place to stay and that she would’ve been 12 when he was in his 20s still. Not to mention most of these kinds of relationships I’ve witnessed in person the guy knew the girl as a teen and waited till she was legal which is super pedo and usually ends up being an abusive relationship. This girl at my old job was 19 and this 30 year old had a crush on her and everyone was uncomfortable with it it’s just kinda weird bro
4 likes@tigermilk acceptance is the first step to recovery friend
0 likes@Blake I think that's called supply and demand. Dude I would love to have a beer with you. Your pretty damn cool.
1 likeTj Campbell I’m more sorry he brutally murdered her than that she had a fling with a douche bag 🤷♀️ #murdererblaming
3 likes@Boston Towny4life so because war has been a thing throughout our history it's just okay? No. Long time ago people can just sleep with young girls but that doesn't mean it's okay now or then! Just because it's widely accepted by the people of your time doesn't mean it's okay. Just saying, Your logic for this is not good sorry.
1 likeAlso literally I remember when I turned 13 and my boobs got bigger, people are so creepy so it's like when you come after me when I just turned 18 it makes me feel like you've been creepy to me for like ever!! So yeah maybe those old people should think about how actually young these little 18 year olds are, how little experience they can have because I didn't even lose my virginity until I was 19 so it's like these people should really think about just how young and inexperienced the kid could be, I know not all teens are like me but some are and it really sucks being sexualized at a young age (esp. when you never even had a real boyfriend/partner before)
Color Me Wonderful what the ever living f__k are you talking about? We’re talking about guys in their late 20’s and early 30’s sleeping with girls in their early 20’s. No one said anything about grown men sleeping with “young girls”. A girl in her 20’s is an adult.
0 likesAlso wtf are you talking about “war”?! 🤣 WAT?!
Please learn reading comprehension before replying.
@Chris Bollow Why is there so many girls who date sombrero wearing shirtless bud light drinkers? The world may never know
0 likesI was the 1000th like. turn up.
1 likeThis is a fact. Worked in restaurant for years. 40s-50s too
0 likesYea I live in this area I literally know a different guy who works at the same restaurant who was asking me if I wanted to go out for drinks when I was like 19 lol
0 likesDusty River Hoop ha, I’m just assuming you’re a Ruby Tuesday cook or something
1 likeI work at a restaurant and i can confirm this is fact LOL
1 likeThe first restaurant I worked for had two long-term couples. The guy, in the MARRIED couple, would flirt with all the women that worked there. It went beyond words on many occasions. He'd pick girls up and twirl them around, slap their butt, hug them for looong periods of time, and so forth. I found out, shortly after I had left for a better restaurant, that he and his wife were getting a divorce. They just had a child, together.
2 likesAt one of the restaurants I managed the bar for, the floor manager/gm was married and had a kid. He would CONSTANTLY hire extremely young girls based solely on their looks and then actively make comments about how hot they were to other employees. When he tried it with me, I asked him if his wife would find them just as attractive as he did. Shortly after that, and some conversations with the owner, I became the hiring manager. The first person I hired became one of our best employees, but when I hired him the gm questioned my decision because the employee didn't have our usual 'image.' I told him that character and work ethic are the most attractive aspects of a potential new-hire. Needless to say, he stopped talking with me unless he needed to.
At the restaurant I was at before COVID hit, one of the female servers tried sleeping with me within the first two weeks of my being there. Later, I was told, by her, that she consistently sleeps with countless 'fuck-boys' that she 'kept around.' Mind you, her boyfriend was the one who suggested she conduct her private life like that. They were in the process of getting married. From what I could gather, she'd slept with several people in the months before and after the boyfriend had purchased the ring.
So yes, there's someone like that in every restaurant. Men and women. It's mind-boggling.
@manic satanic impare YOUR promising future? What about the future of, ya know, the dead person...
1 like@blake hebert you're the real fuckin' MVP Blake. As a once 18 yr. old dating a 33 yr. old, then 22 dating a FORTY FIVE YEAR OLD... Fucking thank you.
1 like@Liz C well it's obvious she has no future so not much can be said
0 likesthe restaurant i used to work at had the same kinda guy working there. man never stopped talking about high school either so i think he was stuck in his high school mind set or something and he tried hitting on me lol. mind, I’m 18 he’s 25.
1 likePretty much yea...most places I worked back when I first worked those types of jobs had that one couple
0 likesThen there was the gangster employees
The addicts
and the church people
David Coon so true
0 likes@Blake times are changing. Older woman/ young man hookups maybe aren't considered coercion, but they are seen as pathetic. So, I can tell you're "of an age" when fist bumping over low hanging fruit was a thing.
2 likesMaybe noone has explained this to you, but any relationship where there is a marked inequality in the power dynamic raises a red flag, meaning, proceed slowly, and with caution. If one partner is significantly older (over ~25%), has an income that provides more independence, has a position of authority over the partner, or is in a position to coerce, intimidate or threaten the partner, that's an uneven power dynamic. An 18 year old brain's frontal cortex has not fully matured, and their decisions can be impulsive, naive, and emotional. You know this, because you have the benefit of experience, even if you are only 25. Just being able to purchase alcohol legally can be impressive to an 18 year old. So if you mix a normal, unstable miss or esquire (using drugs off and on to the point where you turn off mates and lose a bunch of weight would fall under the the 'unstable' umbrella at any age) with an unstable older person (bud lights, sombreros, knife fights, and sobbing in a police station, ditto), it won't end well. At the very VERY least, once the powerless person gains understanding, they will be forever icked out (eeewww) by the memory and resort to blaming intoxicants for their regrettable choices, while the once dominant partner becomes a cautionary tale to the other's next generation. Double-ditto, a pathetic scene.
It seems to me that the crucial element you are missing in your conception of "consenting adults" is the result of the passage of time.
@Fox Takes TIL that managerial positions are entry level jobs....
0 likesI worked at the Cheesecake Factory a few years ago. We had tons of guys like that work there. Fucked up lol
0 likesRestaurants attract a lot of macho dudes
0 likesLmao I have to add to this thread and say I've been in the restaurant industry for over +5 yrs and yes there's always that one dude. Sometimes they're a really good dude or a douche.
1 like@Boston Towny4life someone took that minute observation personally, eh?
0 likesHahahaha. Savage! But True!
0 likesShort answer yes
0 likesChris Bollow “Meanwhile, sombrero guy is just there.” This made me laugh my ass off for some reason. 👍🏻
2 likesRobert Gardea So it’s called an “affair” when a female teacher sexually assaults a student, but “rape” when a male teacher does the same? Interesting. So much for “gender equality” being a thing.
3 likesBlacky Chan Nothing. You’re both legal. And if it’s mutual, there’s nothing wrong with it. But you’ll have the judgement mob after you. The mob who has never done anything questionable in their lives. Therefore it allows them to judge you, because they are perfect and have nothing in their lives that needs fixing.
1 likeHoggar Krababbel Adderall = Heaven.
0 likesBlake I don’t think it’s jealousy. I think it’s people who think that their lives are so,perfect that it gives them the right to sit in judgement of others. My motto is, if it’s legal, go for it. Gay, straight, trans, midget, no legs, one eye. Whatever someone is attracted to, go for it. I’m very imperfect, so I have no right to judge someone who is not breaking the law. If everyone in the world was exactly the same, the world would be a very boring and predictable place.
1 likeWhen my wife and I were separated, I was 38 and there was a girl who was 22. I didn’t know. I thought maybe 26 or 27. We worked in the same building, but not together. She would always be making excuses to hang around me. Long story short, I asked her out. We dated for about a year. She liked older men. Turns out that she was sexually assaulted by an older man when she was 12. I think this was somehow her way of coping. But it didn’t end well. Layers of her would slowly become peeled back. Turns out that she was a binge drinker. A serious binge drinker. She was addicted to Percs. And she abused Adderall. Not sure if she was addicted to those though. So the first half of our relationship was great and the second half was extremely rocky. I broke up with her several times, however she was very manipulative. I wonder if young women who go for much older men have a similar experience in their childhood or adolescence.
2 likesMost of the time they are more like 50 years old.
0 likesWell, it's not rape so it's a two way street
0 likes@Chris Bollow totally correct! i worked in a number of restaurants in my past and every one of them had that "dude" working there. Usually as an assisstant night manager, where all of the "talent" perpetually operated. lol
1 likeYes. They're called cooks.
0 likesSame with paramedics cops fire dept. All hook up
0 likesOddly, that's the same person everyone usually calls "asshole"
1 likeLMFAOOO best comment. I swear it’s true. It’s a regulatory standard to have one.
1 likeThey also smoke ciggs but never have their own.
1 likeHe puts the “bone” into Bonefish
0 likes@Chris Bollow I snorted when I laughed as I read this exchange lol
1 likeWalmart would never employ somebody like that.
0 likesHahahahaha!
0 likes@Tampa John maybe.
0 likesI don't hold his douchery ways against him. It's his murderous tendencies that I find most unappealing.
0 likes@blake hebert
0 likesSame, even back in my last year of uni I was 22 and it felt weird af when 18yr freshman showed interest. They seemed like kids lol.
But agree it’s def hilarious seeing 40yr old guys posting selfie’s on social media and stuff trying to act young it’s so cringe lmao.
Kinda sad those men never were able to be fulfilled with a family of their own (some even have families btw), they just have some weird perversion that controls their life to where nothing else matters.
Detectives: So, how did you meet Savannah?
0 likesLee Rodarte: My mom was addicted to meth
i absolutely hate how the female investigator handled it
1 likeDamn that transition at 4:03. Stellar work! Love me some JCS
1 likebeing interrogated as a murder suspect while you're on adderall sounds like hell
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Only of you're not suppose to be on it. Other than that I'd rather be on my meds
77 likesCould actually be a lie to explain his nervousness
78 likes@C Ford bingo. It doesn’t have an “opposite” effect on people without ADHD. It makes your brain hyper vigilant which always leads to nervous behavior.
34 likes@C Ford I’m an adult and have ADHD. I can tell you right now that when I first started taking my meds my mind definitely focused. In fact, I found myself to actually take power naps and sleep more soundly at night because my mind being able to focus translated to less racing thoughts when I’m sitting still.
102 likesI also had to take a training course recently that required 12 hours of sitting in a chair straight for 3 days straight. On the 2nd day I forgot my meds and it was literal hell. I could not stay still or focus. I literally wanted to scream and was fidgeting nonstop. Everything distracted or annoyed me. I had to exert an exhausting amount of effort. Third day I didn’t forget and it was easy to sit still and focus the entire time even though the 3rd day had objectively more work than the 2nd.
Kindly stop making assumptions etc. if you’re not a fucking doctor. :)
@C Ford yea every single case is the same? a reliance on medication is objectively not a good thing but if they can afford it and is the only way they have found to function you should probably mind ur own business
27 likes@thebravelittletoaster14 People say it helps them focus... it helps EVERYBODY focus. Jet pilots take the shit for christ sake. The idea that someone has a disorder for which taking speed every day is the cure is preposterous. I guess maybe I'll take some to "cure" me next time I have to sit for 12 hours and become fidgety and uncomfortable. Y'all are sad.
17 likes@C Ford Watch out boys, the Youtube commenter is here and he knows better than four decades of academic medical research
60 likes@Statler you're assuming that the academic research is all in agreement. You'd be a chump if you thought that.
12 likesYou're gonna be on dangerous meds for your whole life no matter what. We are talking about a disorder in which anyone can qualify by having 5 of 18 symptoms of which many are completely bogus. And you're right, we aren't chimpanzees but we are pretty close, except I don't know if chimps histrionically inject their own unrelated bullshit into a conversation to make themselves feel important.
5 likes@C Ford I'm more willing to listen if you could start providing evidence to any of your words. Otherwise, this conversation ends with you saying what you personally believe and nothing more.
14 likes@Twelve Voltage type in to google: ADHD controversy and watch experts argue if you don't believe me. People in the field for decades have been speaking out.
4 likes@C Ford Yes, I'm aware of how dull some psychologists are. And I agree that ADHD is diagnosed far too often and that Adderall is prescribed way too much, aswell as to too many. Once again, it's not only prescribed for ADHD. If you have a better solution to cure bipolar, I'd be willing to learn.
14 likesEDIT: I also agree that adderall for life is bad for most ADHD people as more than half eventually outgrow symptoms. I think it's use as a medicine is flawed, but I'm just saying that personally, I disagree that it should NEVER be permanently prescribed.
@Twelve Voltage It can be a great tool. I would never compare ADHD to bipolar disorder. Amphetamine might be the safest option for you compared to some of the other shit that might be offered. I'm glad you found something that works.
6 likes@C Ford Thanks, when deciding what med to take I realized how crazy some side effects were on bipolar medication vs adderall.
4 likesADHD is massively over diagnosed in the states. Literally nobody in Europe takes adderral. We also don’t have a massive opiate problem. It’s because your doctors are profit motivated so they will sell you any crap.
9 likesAny mention of drugs on a YT thread and it’s “well I’ve been on oxy for 8 years because of back pain” or “I can’t concentrate without meth/adderall”
These things are so rare in Britain, where doctors have very strict controls and just won’t give it to you unless absolutely necessary.
Even if you have surgery even getting codeine is hard, they want to give you Tylenol/acetimine.
@C Ford you clearly don’t understand how ADHD works. our brains are literally different. shape, chemical makeup and all. so yes....it does effect us differently
16 likes@Michaela Jenkins I get my information from papers published by experts in the field. The experts disagree... But it's not just me saying it. If folks could be bothered to actually research for themselves, what I'm saying wouldn't seem so outlandish.
4 likes@C Ford that’s a brave statement
3 likes@C Ford i’d love a source if you don’t mind sharing.
8 likes@Serega Rublev “remember to keep your comments respectful and follow community guidelines” ... sorry you have trouble with that. You have probably had some pretty bad things happen to you and done some bad things yourself. Hope things turn around for you. ❤️
3 likes@Nunya Bunya did you forget to take your meds today?
1 like@Twelve Voltage i stopped all my meds and just smoke weed. Better than ssri or nsri or benzoyl or Serroquel thats for sure
3 likes@Brad Sarson Yeah, I take a small amount of seroquel just to sleep and for auditable schizophrenia. And then smoke some bc it calms me
1 like@Twelve Voltage and play monotone documentaries that you can listen to and zone out. Thats what I do
0 likesY’all some pill poppers. Everyone’s brain thinks differently. You can’t categorize people and give them a pill to solve their problems. Argue with me all you want. I know basic human biology and we weren’t made to be doing medical meth everyday.
4 likes@Ben Graham I disagree, but dont feel passionately enough after this hefty comment thread to type a rebuttal anymore.
6 likes@Ben Graham i am off my meds so I would like to argue with you all I want.
3 likesawwrrkk!
0 likes@C Ford I have adhd and the first thing I ever did on meds was lie on my bed and relax. before that point I had never relaxed in my life before. you don't know what you're talking about
8 likes@Ben Graham "I know basic biology" is a good way to admit you don't know what you're talking about because this isn't basic biology
8 likesI have never taken it but have seen it's if ppl on it and holy shit you are right lol
1 like@Twelve Voltage do you know what Rockefeller did to the medical industry? Look it up
3 likes@Eric Finnigan that’s an arrogant and passive aggressive statement 🤣
1 like@C Ford nahhh actually when I was little it didn’t do anything to me but as I got older I grew out of my adhd and took my medicine and was wired so nah they do have the adverse effect
2 likes@Nunya Bunya wow sounds like hell, even without having ADHD
0 likes@C Ford Better idea: Google "why people think google replacement ten years medical".
4 likesOh look, I didn't even need to type in "school", it just knew what I was gonna say.
@Twelve Voltage just curious, were you diagnosed bipolar before you were prescribed any SSRIs or other psychoactive pharmaceutical, or were you prescribed medication for depression before your diagnosis of bipolar? Thank you
1 like@LAVATORR I approve this message
2 likes@Rison Boobis About as sad as someone who thinks crack and speed are the same thing expecting their medical opinion to be taken seriously
3 likesEh its the equivalent of having like 2 and a half cups of strong coffee and also haven't eaten in a while. Mfs be geeking out lol 😆 hey some advice from an ex junkie all uppers are the same feeling cocaine meth and coffee it all makes me feel the same. Heroine is a downer it is like zanax or vicodine heroine will have you what we can falling out meaning u r so fucked up you feel so numb and so good u don't give a littoral shit about anything or anyone so numb you can barely stay awake yet you know if you did fall asleep you'd probably not wake up.
2 likes@LAVATORR have you ever tried crack or speed all uppers are the exact fucking feeling literally it feels like your just downed 3 cups of coffee lol in the span of 2 seconds the only difference between em is how fast the high comes on and also how you do it whether you smoke it shoot it or snort it they are all uppers or downers and they are all the same
2 likesHaha sounds like a roller coaster
1 like@C Ford ADHD is more than just a focus issue. A sufferer of ADHD has a mind that cannot create self stimulation and much like dreaming that stimulation is incredibly important for your state of mind. Because the brain cannot create stimulation on its own, it must seek it elsewhere. That's why they're saying people who actually need the medicine can sit through a whole a day. There are a multitude of other Neurodegenerative diseases people can get that stem from unmanageable ADHD. Depression and disassociation are just the tip of the ice berg. In other words, you sir are incorrect.
1 like@Mr. smith Agent smith ehhhh cracks wayyyy more intense vyvanse is the beer of speed and cracks the hard liquor
1 like@JP Wells yeah i take it cause i got adhd and it knocks me out man
0 likes@Twelve Voltage you know weed makes schizophrenia worse?
0 likesEveryone in the reply section thinks you need to be a doctor with trained medical history/a researcher to know what adderall does to you when you could listerally ask a neurodivergent person who's been on it. I've personally never taken Adderall but you people are so fucking rude and you talk over the voices of people who actually know what they're talking about, not just sitting in their chair using Google and acting like a scientist but by having real life experience that you will never be able to understand. Don't reply to this cause I'm not gonna respond.
1 likeSounds fun if you were the one just watching it all unfold.
0 likesInterrogating as a murder victim while you’re on Ritalin sounds like Heaven
0 likes@PotawatomiThunderNew literally heaven
0 likesDid anyone else laugh when they cut to him crying? 😂I think i need therapy
0 likesSo what exactly was the motive for killing this young girl? They were doing it and because he is the restaurant manager/chef and she worked under him, he didn't want people to find out and get fired from his job? That can't be it, was it???
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I think it had more to do w his girlfriend and Savannah probably threatening him to tell her they were having sex and threatening to tell her she was pregnant w his baby or something
0 likes"Lee,please tell us. Please...so we can put you in prison."
2 likesThe self pep talk in second person is so he’s desensitized to hearing it again. True creep.
0 likesWould love to know the IQ of most of these guys
0 likesVideo and forensics always tell the truth. Technology and science don't lie.
0 likesYou know what I’m thinking that entire 90 minutes (& keep in mind that I have both Bipolar Disorder AND Anxiety Disorder Due to Childhood PTSD Caused by Mental, Emotional, & Religious Child Abuse)..?
0 likesI’m taking a nap or two, while simply thinking, “I’m not answering SHIT, ANYway. Just asking for a lawyer!”
anyone notice the flyer said “his whereabouts” and not hers, when talking about Savannah?
0 likesImagine killing someone over a manager position at the Bonefish Grill
1 likeI watched this for the confession. They cut the confession off don't waste time looking at police begin him. I guess they weren't so subtle extracting the confession which is probably why it's cut.
0 likesI will never understand the discrepancy in the sentences. He should be charged with tasslinn with murder and called the best names.
0 likesHe was rather long-winded for a homicidal criminal. These detectives are terrific! Shades of First 48! They gave him 40 years. That's not nearly enough. Should have been Life without parole.
0 likesI can’t believe none of the people in these videos request a lawyer
0 likesTook a plea to Murder II, 40-year sentence.
1 likeThat female investigator let her emotions get to her and could have foiled the interrogation
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Maybe she has fallen to the dark side
0 likesCop: You have the right to remain silent
0 likesAdderall: You ain't seen nothing yet
Narrator, " Guilty people will talk a lot and feel the need to be thorough"
0 likesLee, "ooooooooooook so 8 month and 6 days ago...."
if all jcs videos are deleted i’m gonna turn into an insomniac
2 likesUpdate for y’all, he received 40 years
0 likes29:57 just starring at them while they are pleading (eventhough it might be acting on their part) still just cold evil
0 likesSeeing all these comments about JCS makes me sad and upset man. To think About all the hours he put in to make these informative videos for us, just so yt can restrict him makes me sick to my stomach. I hope he’s doing well fr.
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It's frustrating and pissing me off that youtube is bullying JCS like this. Meanwhile far worse channels are still running
0 likesFemale detective; Helps make a murderer confess to his crimes to ensure he is convicted.
0 likesHalf the comment section; "This emotional b** should stay out of the room and also he should have lawyered up to avoid going to prison for the murder he did dang stoopid womens".
JFC whose side are these people on exactly?
That girl detective is annoying 😂 i would've just have a smug face on her and ignore her completely. She's being too good.
1 likeWhy would someone harm such a sweet girl?
0 likesI love the clocks being lined up it’s really satisfying
0 likes“the suspect was driving a 2012 silver chevy malibu”
2 likesme who drives a 2012 silver chevy malibu: 👀
I literally forgot the 1st question that the detective asked. That's how long his damn response was. These lil grown ass boys need to realize women don't owe you shit & you don't own us
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Yes you women do and yes we do own you ladies
1 like@Nicky Blue 🤣🤣
0 likesThank you, I think you could read or speak a little slower. The police are not running to catch you!
0 likesAm I the only one who noticed the "2012 Chevy Malibu" at 4:02 was actually a 2007 Chevy Malibu?
1 likeDetective: So how do you know Savannah
0 likesSuspect: I did it
Case closed.
“how long have you known Savannah”
1 likeLee: let me spin you a yarn that you shan’t soon forget
The women detective is blowing it ! Lawyer up fast because of that detective pushing it!!
1 likeUPDATE he ended up getting 40 years in prison!
1 likeHe killed a young girl just to keep his job at a restaurant wow
1 like"im sad pity me i dont want to go to jail"
0 likesok but you killed someone. thats... easily avoidable? dont murder?
The female detective was using the annoying technique flawlessly
0 likesI know as a former line cook that line cooks get mad at servers once in a while but goddamn!
0 likesThis guy should of just said “ I did it you got me” I mean the evidence was pretty bad but he just walked right into the cell thinking he was smooth
0 likesdoes anyone actually know why he killed her? I was watching this in the background while doing some assignments and may have missed it.
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To avoid losing his job. He was a manager and Gold was not. He didn't want his bosses to find out about their relationship. Unbelievably stupid. I know
0 likes"Probably not the best advertisement for the bonefish grill" 😂
1 likethat second detective is about to make me admit to a crime i didn't commit
0 likesCrazy the things YouTube recommends sometimes. I lived on the other side of the main road from where this happened at the time…
0 likesThis guy was basically telling a George R.R. Martin story 😂🤣
0 likesChecked the case outcome. He got 40 years in March 2021
1 like“how long did you know her?”
0 likesinsert whole life story
Damn. Cops didn’t even let him take his apron off. Just something I noticed
0 likesMy name is Lee Rodarte. I'm 31 years old. My house is in the north east section of Florida, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Bonefish Grill family eateries, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I smoke, drink, and do heavy drugs. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone, except a CCTV camera.
0 likes“At least tell us where you went with her then lee” aka “at least incriminate yourself a little bit then lee… be fair”
0 likes27:27 gave me a good chuckle with the female officer
0 likesSounded like he said “my moms gonna die while I’m in jail”
1 likeI'm so happy I didn't kill someone and just sitting here in the kitchen drinking a cup of tea while watching murderers getting a life sentence.
0 likes2:44 "He had short brown hair and was roughly 5'11"."
0 likesNo. That's just a splash of color. Don't lie to me.
Why did you kill her if you're so scared of the consequences of your actions that will come back to you
0 likesHe killed her out of impulsive behavior just bc he was angry at her. Nothing planned just did it on the spot. Now he’s upset bc he’s confessed and didn’t fully realise what he did or come to his senses. He’s really stupid.
1 likeIt’s even more gross that he was 27 and she was 21 and he lied about the drugs because savannah didn’t even have drugs in her system. And her neck break didn’t even kill her so it isn’t known how she died … what a manipulative little man
0 likesHer style was really off putting. I think I’d have been shut down completely by her pleading. That gives the killer power!
0 likesThese videos or are fire. Please keep it up!!
0 likesThe woman interviewer, needs a different career. Stepped on and over everything and though repeating "please, please, I know you're not evil" would do it, poor!
1 likeHow have I only just found this channel!? God bless the algorithm. Fascinating insights.
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It’s a shame YouTube destroyed his channel
0 likesWhat I’d like to know is why he slashed her front tyre 🤔
0 likesI can’t imagine the poor family when they got those faked text messages from her and realising that someone not only had her phone but was also telling them that they wouldn’t see her again 😭
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this is so sad you put a crying emoji at the end
16 likesJesus. I've watched too many of these. My daughters are Savannah's age. When they text me late at night or make me check on them, I quiz them, or call them by the wrong middle name. They think I'm crazy. Maybe I am, but I will not be fooled by the fake text!
4 likesMas lav Literally. It’s so jarring. “It’s just so sad and painful for the family; thoughts are with them during this difficult time 👎🏻🔪🩸💀😭😭😭”
3 likes@SpaceMissile or "I'm in danger'' would work too
0 likes@SpaceMissile Actually I have a subtle and complicated system- call me mommy if you need the law, mama means a little sketchy, etc. I like your way better. Time to make some changes.
0 likes@SpaceMissile I do have this not so subtle one when they are with someone they don't know well and things start getting weird. I tell to whip out their phone and take a pic of him, then say "oh my mom has this crazy ap, the pic just goes to a database and gets deleted in a month, but if something happens to me they can dig it up. I have to do it on all my dates- moms amirite?"
0 likes7:04 female investigator is on her phone & looks relaxed as can be as lee walks in, shes saying im not afraid of you. Idk 🤷♂️
0 likesThat interrogator was good. You can never win in an interrogation so it is best to just ask for your lawyer and say nothing.
0 likessomeone: "what's your name?"
4 likesthis dude: "so it all started when i was born..."
one of the best youtube channels out
0 likes35:25
310 likes"The instant anguish over his decision to confess, combined with the looming prospect of what lays ahead, will have forged a unique emotional distress that very few will ever experience. It's a harrowing sight, and under different circumstances would be extremely difficult to witness. Yet, we are now couched within the context of events that lead up to this moment and this will make it's observation far more tolerable, but by no means easy."
Such an honest and sympathetic thing to say. Love this channel!
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One of those rare moments when you really get to look through a window into inner core of a person as their world is crumbling around them. It's horrible circumstances all around but admittedly kind of morbidly fascinating to watch as well.
24 likesA lot of people like to pretend they don't feel sympathy for criminals to make themselves feel cooler, but it was easy to feel the amount of regret in this scene. Not so much remorse, though.
26 likesTrue. And, I could feel some of it. Feeling sympathy for someone who does something heinous doesn't mean you believe it's excusable or tolerable. It's just human nature. No way of knowing, but looks to me like he didn't intend to. It wasn't planned, it was a panicked reaction. Which is just that much sadder, for both of them. She trusted him enough to get in the car, because he wasn't a 'bad' guy and her instinct didn't tell her better. He had no intent of doing this (I believe), but kids, don't do drugs. Because no matter why you did something, you still did it, and you'll have to live with that. And because he did something he'll have to live with, Savannah doesn't get to.
17 likes@Dorito Right, we all make mistakes but unfortunately this one came with grave and irreversible consequences. In a way I feel this should almost act as a sort of cautionary tale to step back from a situation and to consider the ramification of your actions before you make it. One moment can change yours and others entire lives.
8 likes@Dreamleaf exactly. I truly believe Lee just panicked. Unfortunately, he was way bigger, way stronger, and on drugs, therefore, his moment of panic ended someone's life. The best prevention from things like this to happen is not put yourself in the situation in the first place. I feel sorry for him. It doesn't exonerate him, or make it any less tragic, but damn, it really puts it into perspective how close so many of us are into getting into situations we don't want to be in, or to cause. And it should put it into perspective like that. Compassion doesn't mean tolerance.
16 likes@VERY Excited Doggo I don’t “feel cool” when I don’t sympathize with a murderer. It’s great if you and JSC are able to but it gives me immense satisfaction to see him despair. He deserves that and more.
5 likesI literally started reading this at the exact time the narrator said it.
3 likesThank
0 likes@K I agree with you on that one 100%...
0 likes@Dorito when you do something so heinous like he did,compassion goes out the door. He's clearly putting on a show here,acting remorseful etc.,because he knows this is being recorded.
0 likesAgreed, it's a brilliant channel, but I think this is one rare time where he's misinterpreted Lee's blubbering at the end. No one, I repeat, NO ONE would say all of those, obviously, carefully chosen statements unless they realised they were being recorded by a surveillance camera. Watch it again and honestly ask yourself if you believe that his concern was in any significant way, for what he'd done to Savannah. The tears and sobs are real.......... but only for his own predicament.
0 likesHow long did you know her.
0 likesGoes on to tell them their whole story
Detective: How long have you known savanna?
0 likesLee: in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth….
He was guilty from the moment he walked in !
0 likesPled guilty to 2nd degree murder, sentenced to 40 years.
0 likes"They were in an on-again, off-again relationship...despite it being against company policy."
1486 likesSomething tells me murdering your coworker was also against company policy.
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It probably wasn’t written on paper so he couldn’t know for sure
83 likes@Darren Slater and the fact that it was at a damn restaurant makes it dumber. if he can cook decently & is at least somewhat personable then even if he lost his job there he'd have probably been able to bounce back on his feet at another restaurant. the Bone Fish Grill sure must hire some boneheaded people.
5 likes@Darren Slater I don't think it was ever about that job. He might have had some sadistic fantasies he wanted to act on from the beginning when became enraged. The job was an excuse.
4 likes@Tony Arcieri
0 likesEven if it was. Nobody got time for reading that.
Excuse me, sir. It says here that I can't kill my coworkers? That seems to me to be an unfair policy. I refuse to sign this. Thank you for the job offer, but I have another one at the Post Office that seems better.
0 likesAh shit see there it is, page 6 of the employment offer. “Staff members are required to abstain from homicides during work hours or on company property.”
3 likes@Monsieur Condottiero 😂
0 likesThou shalt not fornicate near fish burgers
0 likes@Pllayer064 o shit I was at burger king with a bk big fish and... Dammit I lose
0 likes- "How long have you known Savannah?"
0 likes- "According to all known laws of aviation..."
these r interasting but i always fear people who plot a murder might watch these n take notes
1 likeI think she was pregnant as well, providing him even more of a motive.
0 likesHe's seriously blaming her til the very end.
1 likeThe quick cut to “what happened to your neck” was so good
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That female interrogator was so bad. Too emotional
124 likes@vIPR on purpose tho, she even fooled you that's how good she is... You need to try different tactics to trigger pity or empathy if you feel like your subject still has moral and compassion.
532 likes@Professor Yinyang not to mention that she said she was passionate, you can clearly see what will work with the person in front of you and you adjust to that
129 likes@vIPR
289 likesThat was a total manipulation tactic. Worked a charm.
I know, right? Savage AF
10 likes@vIPR Yea she was putting on the dog there, big time. 100% playing the role needed.
28 likes@vIPR pretty sure securing a confession is the opposite of bad
98 likes@vIPR= simpleton
25 likes@Car TM viewers right to laugh at him though hahaha merry x,as
1 likeTime stamp ?
1 likeIts a confrontation to induce stress in lee and also trigger a morality response I guess.
25 likesShe was naturally emotional and used it to her advantage.
8 likes@vIPR nooooo lol what she literally played her roll perfectly.
9 likes@Mariz 19:35
1 like@vIPR that was all fake on her part, funny that you fell for it.
24 likes@sunnymoon No it wasn't.
2 likesIn what way would it work if the guy already refuses to say.
I think she is just an amatuer. Probably new at the work
@vIPR he confessed right after that
28 likes@vIPR She's not an amateur. She's controlling the interview. You can see where she kicks the male detective under the table several times and he stops talking every time. It's her gig. They know Rodarte is emotional and would cave to emotion. It's all practiced and planned ahead of time.
58 likes@sunnymoon No he didnt!
1 like@vIPR yes, he did. The JSO had a press conference right after this interrogation. He confessed and told them where to find the body. They found her body that night.
25 likes@vIPR the confession is right after this video after it cuts off. Police don't release that until a trial is completely over.
9 likes@vIPR Also, interesting that you peg HER for being new at her job. Her partner, the male detective, Ray Reeve had just come to the JSO homicide dept in 2018, the same year as the interrogation.
32 likesHomicide detectives are actors. They play characters during these interogations.
@vIPR this channel isn't for you lol
36 likes@Aditi H Dont be so sensitive now Shakira
1 like@vIPR she was apart of the reason why he confessed
7 likes@Amainiiii No it wasn't
1 like@vIPR yes she was he confessed due to the pressure they both applied and she told him about the evidence so he was panicking
1 like@vIPR of course leave it to a random guy on the internet to come mansplain about how a professional detective can’t do her job and refusing to actually listen to facts. did you even watch the video? and why are you so obsessed with how she handled it? it’s not that deep
20 likes@Star Hans Aww is it mansplaining?
1 likeWhat if I said that the guys technique was poor and didn't work?
What would you call that?
@vIPR it would still be mansplaining since YOU’re the one questioning the professionalism of and actual professional. I’d love to see you try to make the man confess since you’re so great
10 likes@Star Hans Aww okey. Man bad, man evil!
1 like@vIPR if you say so :)
14 likes@vIPR what is up with you lmao
4 likes@vIPR that was the point
0 likes@vIPR Come on man, how can you not see that she purposelly did it to apply more pressure on him
0 likes@ChampofHorde The interrigators acting emotional is not in their book.
1 likeIt just shows weakness.
He crumbled when he realized they had surveillance and evidence of him murdering her. Not because she almost started crying, LOL.
@vIPR Dingus, it's part of the tactic.
2 likes@Aditi H he's obviously just a misogynist. Can't stand the thought of the woman being good at her job and able to manipulate the male suspect lol
2 likes@vIPR so bad? That was all her act. She did a good job since she convinced you
0 likes@Zenovarse women logically using their emotional capacity I love it
0 likesI think the detectives get paid by the minute because they dead let this man answer ONE question for multiple minutes 😂
0 likesThis guy is a real criminal. No doubt that this not the first time he abused and asssulted peole.....strange , chefs do have BAD tempers
1 likeWhy is the investigations strategy to bring justice being alerted to the public ?!!
0 likeslike how he paints himself as the most upstanding citizen of all time
0 likesI never realized how interesting criminal psychology was until I found this page
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same, I’ve watched like 9 of their vids. 3 parts of Chris watts but idek if I wanna do it for college as my major. I don’t want to react in a bad way but I obv have time to make my decision as my major because I’m gonna be a sophomore this fall.
9 likesSame! I am lightweight addicted to this channel
1 like@Bethel Bruk it takes 8 to 10 years an undergraduate and a masters degree to be one 😭😭😭 and it only pays 29-100K a year so if you're up for all that go for it!
2 likes@Orion Mckenzie só there are no pros? You forgot to mention your dealing with profuse amounts of sorrow and distress and murder so it’s def not worth it for 100k lmao
1 like@i Relevant it's not the best job but if psychoanalysis is something you're passionate about then it's a good job espicially if criminology interests you.. I could never I am far too sensitive for that job I would break down
1 like“page” ur not from around here are u
1 like@jaz azo hahaha
0 likesSecond time I'm watching this since it was released. Probably watched the story of Jeff like 5 times since dit aired. Criminal psychology is fascinating.
1 likeWelcome to the cult.
0 likesTook it in university. So awesome
0 likesHas he heard of the phrase: I need a lawyer…!!!
0 likesThe female interrogator gently kicks the male interrogator when she wants him to stop talking.
23296 likes28:13 “Is that what happened? Did she overdose?” (*she kicks, he suddenly stops talking and resets his posture*)
29:50 “Where did you go with her?” (*kicked, suddenly stops talking and resets posture.*)
30:47 “not saying you intentionally did anything, tell us where you went.” (*kicked twice. He trails off and resets posture*)
I’m sure there were more instances of her nudging I didn’t catch. It happens so often and the males reaction is so consistent it must be a previously agreed upon method of communication between them. They make a good team.
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KingofHearts good catch! They make a heck of a team tho! The male investor don’t even have a bad reaction..
3235 likesYep
259 likesNice observation! 👍
1419 likesgood job catching this
888 likesNice catch man! You have a background in law enforcement? I, like most of us I assume, we’re focused on the tone and Lee’s actions. Great observation!
1398 likeswell spotted!
327 likesThis should be a pinned comment. That was really interesting to watch. Thanks for pointing it out.
1439 likesGreat observation!! 👍🏽
210 likesOh shit, good catch!
260 likesWell spotted man!
176 likesTeamwork makes the DreamWork
280 likesIt is 100% planned / meaning that's a communication. Go from aggressive male to a softer female within .3 seconds.
592 likes@DxH17 - No they don't make a heck of a team, I'm glad the correct evidence seemed to be collected on this occasion but the police are the biggest criminals that we have.
302 likesThey are known to bully and trick people into saying things they don't mean and they always cover it up in such a disgusting way by lying and editing/deleting evidence that shows their wrongdoing.
Why in the f*ck did they edit out a huge part of this? It's because it involved the police officials acting in a disgusting and unlawful manner so they just cover it up like it didn't happen and that is tremendously dangerous for any society.
They need to answer MORE than any regular citizen and their days of unprofessional and unlawful behaviour have to be punished extremely severely.
@ron sae ok
637 likesHand gestures too. At one point she places both hands on the table one fist onto the other. It's a very unnatural position.
166 likesThis guy shouldn't be on YouTube. Should be in uniform! :P
59 likesKingofHearts wow that’s amazing good catch 😳
33 likesLove this catch !
18 likesron sae ok
41 likesGreat observation. The detective was really working a strong appeal to emotion and the other detective was interrupting the appeal
134 likesBrilliant catch. I watched again to start catching her. Thanks for the comment!
37 likesI did not catch that. Very observant of you! Well done.
21 likesDid you just assume the interrogators' genders?
49 likes@ron sae Such a good question. What wasn't released? Why? I think maybe one of them said something about the victim that would shame or enrage the family if it was made public.
123 likes@ron sae "Why in the f*ck did they edit out a huge part of this? It's because it involved the police officials acting in a disgusting and unlawful manner so they just cover it up like it didn't happen and that is tremendously dangerous for any society. "
539 likesProbably so the family didn't have to see this guys confessing in detail how her murdered and burned their daughter's body....
eagle eyes
10 likes@ron sae Good point, the female was far too emotional way too early on, i bet she pretended to cry or breakdown or even get somewhat physical with Rodarte.
62 likesGood catch
0 likesThis is soo stupid and funny at the same time,so funny you caught this...Lolol WELL YA CERTAINLY CANT SAY THEY DONT HAVE CHEMISTRY (🤭😝🤣)
11 likesLook at minute 25:00
12 likesAlso...the OP (IMO) might have noticed this the same reason I did, because JCS says “get his foot in the door” right on the pause before her first kick lol SO INTERESTING and funny
18 likesTagging in
5 likes+
0 likesNice bro
1 like@ron sae it's highly likely they don't want the public's reaction to impact the trial which hasn't happened yet
115 likes@Dan Smart - If you think the police base their cases around making the family members of the victims feel as comfortable as possible then there's no hope for you. They don't do what they do to help the family members and there's absolutely no reason in the world to think that they do.
41 likesmaybe it s a sex thing...
17 likes@Cyrene - This is a great example of 'the ends justifying the means', so them tricking and bullying someone in order to get to the truth was a great thing is this particular instance as it led to the right thing. Justice.
61 likesWith that being said, this is just one of countless examples of police/state officials 'bending the rules' to get what they want and that is dangerous as f*ck.
If ANYONE else in our society manipulated and distorted evidence in the way that they did in this video, and then refused to release the evidence in it's entirety they would be ripped to f*cking pieces. Nobody lies and covers something up unless there's something to hide, so how and why can these animals keep getting away with this disgusting behaviour? It's not right.
Great catch!
4 likesGreat catch! 🧐
3 likesNice catch! Thanks for taking the time to write all of this out, too.
9 likes@ron sae I understand. They have used the same tactics to convict many, many innocent people. Especially in death penalty states. Convincing an innocent person that you have evidence that will make a jury convict you, when they don't, and forcing them to plead out, is not justice. It happens all the time. And not only is an innocent person in prison, but a murderer is walking free. It's not allowed in other countries and they get convictions. I don't really like it either.
61 likesI thought the abrupt out of nowhere "What happened to your neck?" was soooo ballsy haha I love it
61 likesWell spotted
1 likeron sae you are a fool. These techniques are meant to catch people that actually commit a crime. Psychology based methods IMO are very humane on the fact that they require you to confess. Not trying to say “if you’re innocent you’ve got nothing to fear” but trust me. This isn’t unethical or in humane. They’re trying to catch a murderer. This isn’t a game
120 likesVery nicely done @KingofHearts!
4 likesmy wife does the same thing
21 likes@ron sae You say all that and ironically hold no evidence to this being the case. Practice what you preach.
49 likes@zerolelouch22 It usually happens with people of subnormal intelligence (or sometimes young kids) who are easily manipulated and intimidated by those in power. Look at Brendan Dassey. These cops KNOW this guy did it but a lot of times the cops zero in on one person because they are convinced that they know what happened. They get tunnel vision and relentlessly badger an innocent person into confessing. It's what happened to the West Memphis Five too.
27 likes@ron sae No, the tactics here were fine, as from the begining he lied they knew. After that getting the confession with any means necessary is what was needed.
50 likes@King of Hearts, excellent catch!
0 likesinteresting
0 likesI couldn’t stand the female’s way of “interrogating” - the begging and pleading was too much. It must have had an effect, though, because once she lighted up and went soft, he started caving.
70 likes@cala lily couldn't stand it either
23 likesShe also immediately becomes tremulous and vocally upset; which likely is because they know it upsets him as he stated earlier his argument was obvious he was upset with victim being upset (f you etc). She emotes feminine to upset and throw him off more.
75 likesAlso; highly unlikely female detective is able to be in such a position being actually that upset.
I believe that in the case the male was a rookie detective and the female was a senior. So she was silently telling him that those are leading questions and are not the way to go. Now I'm not certain of this but I do remember reading that when I watched this whole interrogation a few months back.
64 likesSuch a cool observation! Great catch!
1 likedaniel cardona A BADASS DUO
3 likesGreat eye brotha!🧐
1 likeKingofHearts I found her to be annoying as hell.
10 likesBloody well spotted!
3 likesAWESOME
1 likeThank you for posting that, would've never noticed. Great teamwork and respect.
0 likes30:47 was when she realized she had him cornered and that was the ultimate turning point where he first doesn't deny that she was in the car with him.
8 likes*In narrators voice: what KingofHearts didn't realize was that the female detective had been sleeping with her partner despite the male detective being married. This would all come to an end when the wife discoveres the text messages. What happened next would show even cops weren't above murder.
24 likesYeah, I'm bored
great eye...that gives me so much more respect and appreciation to them both!
3 likes@SpartanOfLight that little kid of a girl was the lead detective? doubt it.she looked like a schoolgirl to me.
3 likesKudos for attention to detail
0 likesShe's brilliant.
6 likesI just hated how ham fisted she got with her approach at one point literally screaming at him to confess, it's like she got frustrated and didn't want to wait for it to naturally happen. Just realized she began crying before she was even the one talking. Not very professional.
9 likesI also have foot fetish my friend. Look at those ankles, so shapely, so fine. Right?
5 likesAre you a detective? I wouldn't have caught that in a million years! In fact I don't even think I looked at her legs at all before I read the comments
1 likeKingofHearts huh good call
0 likesmaybe the male interrogator was still in training is the kick was meant to tell him to was going off track?
10 likesWoooooooooooow I didn’t even catch that until I stumbled upon this piece of gold.
2 likesExcellent partnership here, they broke him all the way down.
8 likesShe is telling him to stop talking so she can ask something without being interrupted. She talks right after her partner stops from the kick-nudge.
5 likes@Vlad The Inhaler Yes...This. She wanted her time to say something uninterpreted.
3 likesDon Diego That joke stopped being funny when people still lived in caves
6 likesmultirevelator She was using a well-known interrogative tactic. It was entirely intentional and planned. She wasn’t being “far too emotional” - she was doing her job.
43 likesron sae well somebody has committed a few crimes🙄
6 likesI guess he's so busy keeping the guy talking that he doesn't quite realize that he's slightly off track or missing something or jumps too far? Or, she's thought of a good follow-up comment at that point?
3 likes@KingofHearts WTF !!! Nice catch !!!
1 likeFor me this female detective is too dramatic and cry baby.
3 likesThanks for sharing that with us! That was a good catch!
2 likesOr maybe he has less experience and wants to teach him how to control his snout
1 likeKingofHearts cmon its not a kick though
3 likesjust a tap from her foot to his leg 😭 why do you make women look so violent 😭😭😭
She was probably a more experienced and expert interrogator, and was there to help steer him, as he gains more experience, not really his partner.
16 likesExceptional work by the detectives
2 likesI didn’t notice this either. I just assumed he backed off when he heard her start talking. Good eye.
3 likesron sae this is why you ask for a lawyer right away no matter what.
3 likesdamn good spot !
0 likesThe interrogators blow i could got it out of him in under 20 minutes especially with the evidence...
1 likeLiam McC Ok
3 likesLiam McC I’m not talking amount of time it took. In fact, half of the time I skip most of these interrogations anyway.
1 likeTroy C i could get it out of him myself no partner needed just manipulation then dropping the evidence bomb it’s not hard this guy is weak minded and would break eventually just a matter of technique and time..
1 likeIt’s as if he is in training and she’s there to make sure things go smoothly.
2 likesReally good catch. The first one I thought maybe it was unintentional but by the 30:47 part where she misses his leg and does it again and he trails off, totally a signal.
6 likesKingofHearts yes....or he is a terrible interrogator and she is telling him to stfu lol
1 likeShe was flirting.
1 like@KingofHearts, I never would have caught that. Great catch.
0 likesthis little observation of yours changed the entire dynamic of this interaction for me ... much obliged
1 likeGood eye bro!
0 likesNICE CATCH MATE!!!!!!👌👌👌👌👌
0 likesGreat observation
0 likesI'm excited to see those parts
0 likes@ron sae ?
1 like@ron sae done time before? Guess murderers behind bars doesn't correlate with your ideology.
2 likesThey're in a sexual relationship. They better be careful. These types of relationships with people you work with can end badly.
0 likesNice i dodnt even notice
0 likesGood eye.
1 likeYou're exactly right that it was their agreed upon cue for when she would use specific techniques.
It's also likely that part of the reason why they selected her for this particular interrogation was because she's an attractive woman, so she's better able to get his guard down.
@ron sae So...what exactly sort of criminal history do you have that makes it so obvious that you have a giant chip on your shoulder for cops?
6 likesGTFOOH
@Oscar Avalos Yep
3 likesHe's apparently a criminal butthurt over having gotten busted over his past behavior.
didnt even observe that. You have a keen eye
0 likesIt's amazing because despite the fact that the man does the most driving, you can see the lady is in charge of steering and braking.
4 likesron sae Lol where’s the proof bud
0 likesGood eye bro
0 likesWow you are very observant 👏👏👏
0 likesI wonder how they would have discussed that—- obviously, allowing him to lead, but would she say” hey, when I nudge you with my foot, let him talk and stop asking Qs?” That’s so fascinating
0 likesThought she was playing footsies
1 like@ron sae not all police are bad just like all citizens ain't bad get real you're stuck in a one way mindset
5 likes@Dan Smart but wouldn't that be presented in trial anyway? hence why trials are so grueling for victims family
0 likes@Brîndușa D. are you drunk typing??😆😆
0 likesThis is the stuff I come to the comments for! Are there subreddits that discuss topics like this?
1 likeWhen i was watching this is kept thinking to myself "why didn't she just tap him with her foot so he would stop interruption her" turns out i was so busy observing the rest of their body language that i failed to see them lol.
1 likeNice! Didn’t notice. Now I can’t not see it :)
0 likesdaniel cardona she makes a perfect bad cop
0 likesWow!! You’re super observant.
0 likes@ron sae they're not police, they're homicide detectives. they're professional interrogators. they don't arrest anyone who's not a suspect of homicide. i'm no fan of the police but there's a huge difference between regular police officers and detectives
14 likes@J F I think he was just focused on her feet
0 likesI lived for those moments.
0 likesThey cut out the actual confession, description of her murder, and details about the disposal of her body. His appeals aren't finished yet so they still have to protect evidence, and also out of respect to the victims family who may have requested that those details be sealed.
10 likes@Colin Johnston, Haha, thank you!! I was really hoping someone would post this response! That was such a gross, creepy comment.
1 likeI think at 28:13 the female interrogator knew she had him
4 likesWow I didn't even notice that
1 likeshe is also cool! when she says at beginning "omg cant listen to this…" 13:03
1 likeI keep looking at every single stop and can’t see it
0 likesnice snatch dude
0 likes@ron sae so edgy
1 likeyesss you are right , she does that a few times and he immediately stops talking .-)) good observation KingofHearts
1 like@Dan Smart what?! In what disgusting manner? 😂
0 likes@P. Egan lol was waiting for this comment. Its possible 🤷
0 likesSpot on.
0 likesI think they knew Lee would respond to a male interrogator better, but she's clearly the lead here.
2 likes@ron sae like to know how u feel bout the Russian probe??
0 likesWow gg on spotting that one
1 likeshe has POWERRRRR
3 likesI wish I had a woman who would lightly kick me when I'm making a mistake at work. Lucky man!
3 likesgood spot
0 likesWow, good eyes, very interesting note!
0 likesGood catch
0 likesnice observation ...didn't see that
0 likesAmazing eye @kingofhearts — awesome little thing to notice.
0 likesJ F yes smooth eye huh? Now cant unsee the tactic of leg tackle
0 likesThis reminds me of the interview with the McCanns, where the wife controlled the husband, being the case that she was responsible for Maddie's death. Of course this is different.
0 likesShe's awesome... damn one of the best detectives I've seen
1 likeTeamwork makes the dream work
0 likesdamn dude you must be a max perception build
0 likesGreat observations.
1 likeas many said, good observation!
0 likesI noticed it happen so often, after you mentioned it. pretty sneaky way to do it. the poor suits though!
Pretty kawai tbh desu
0 likesShe's overly emotional. The male interrogator was sucking info out of the dude. Getting him to lie and make mistakes. The female interrogator is just confronting him and not making any headway.
1 likeO
0 likesJj
0 likesJji
0 likesNg
0 likesWas it not obvious?
0 likesI figured they had a way to communicate but I didnt catch the foot, it also doesnt help that I was only listening and not watching most of it lol
2 likesGreat catch, good teamwork
0 likesIt's cute
0 likesAmazing catch!
0 likes7 26 20 Hey@The Coffee Nut, Good story even if your bored. I was reading through the comments & your's was the best; funny too! Stay safe, keep calm, & be well. v P.S.: tragic that the young lady died-for nothing.
0 likesron sae i support defunding the police and blm but this is not the place my guy. Dont assume without evidence. Innocent till proven guilty. They make an amazing team given they were able to get this man to confess to a murder he committed so regardless of if they are good or bad cops, they put someone away in this video who deserved to be put away and thats justice.
1 likeThey clearly have this system down ....I guess she thinks he will respond to her “ female” side, her passion for the victim and the. Her soft gentle tone....as many male criminals do - he responded to the woman in the room,
3 likesmultirevelator Pretending to cry or breakdown isn’t illegal lmao. Based on how the case ended, I’m assuming they didn’t want anyone have to endure hearing his own twisted personal wording of the murder and ‘disposal’
4 likesron sae How do you feel about black hat hackers? While I do agree that the misconduct you describe should never be allowed, I don’t agree that it occurred here. You implied that cops wouldn’t cut out the descriptions of the murder because they don’t care about families of murders. I am sorry, but that sounds incredibly unrelated to a court hearing/footage release. Public censorship does occur, whether by the department, the court, perhaps reuploader of video, or even this youtube channel. You also say cops when these aren’t your normal LEO but instead interrogators, thats as though saying people who join the military just want to kill, even though there are things like the national guard where a lot of people spend their time helping with natural disasters. To put it short, the reason I so strongly disagree with you is because of your strong assumptions, and to assume is to make an ass out of u and me; more specifically, an ass out of cops and a major ass out of yourself.
1 likeCyrene the Cat Sadly wrongful convictions happens in a lot of countries
0 likesWow! Good catches!!
1 likeYeah, I notice that too. She kicks him each time she wants to jump in w/her questions/interrogation
0 likesThat comment should be superimposed in red.
1 likePeople here are saying this was teamwork, but I didn't see any teamwork. They had completely different approaches. He was trying to control the suspect while she was just straightforward, and it seemed like she kicked him so that she can have the control of the interrogation.
0 likesThe male investigator gave up after a while and just followed her lead.
Nice catch, though I didn't notice this until you pointed it out.
@ron sae hey i dislike cops as much as the next everyone but this doesnt seem like an example of Bad Detectives Being Evil, theyre literally just trying to get an obvious murderer behind bars, this is more of an example of well applied tactics. Chill out brah surfer hand gesture
1 likeacab tho
@cala lily plot twist: she doesn't even have any children.
3 likesHoly crap, good eye.
0 likes@ron sae There is a lot of police corruption, but in this particular case I saw a job well done. The suspect didn't look injured in the post cut scene. My first guess is that they didn't include the confession because he said something explicit/graphic. Or maybe it has something to do with his awaiting trial.
5 likesnice catch and nice teamwork
0 likesYes, they're great actors.
0 likesShe didn't kick him, she just moved her left hand gesturing🙄 Didn't touch the guy at all
0 likesron sae Jesus Christ can’t give good cop work any props. They just can’t win
1 likedaniel cardona well it was obviously previously agreed on
0 likesmultirevelator weird assumption to make based on no evidence
0 likesOnce that investigator putbon her karen voice ik it was a rap for old boy
0 likesI was thinking they must have some sign of communicating in front of suspects, and that must be it
0 likesKing Tiger Prof fish well said
0 likesAwesome catch!
0 likesKingofHearts, great catch, but I only watched it once and focused more on the killer's mannerisms and responses. These two investigators are good. One quibble though, she didn't kick him each time it was more a gentle tap with her foot and one time she missed so she reached out and left a little more. Obviously they have various cues meant to be undetectable by the interrogation subject so they can smoothly tag-team the suspect and thereby smoothly ratchet up the pressure to get the confession. I really like the OP's analysis of these videos, very well done.
1 likeGreat observation. Going to keep an eye out for it it now. I'm only a few mins into it.
0 likesYou are now dubbed "The Professor" 💪❤
1 likeGood cop bad cop
0 likesWell spotted👀...I nvr caught that
0 likes"....and why are you kicking under the table?"
0 likesYeah, guy said "Bodies overdose all the time".
0 likes@ron sae LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!
0 likes@cranberry noodle Internet guys can never resist calling a woman shrill or annoying or "like a bat"(???) as in another comment thread on this video. The misogyny in this(and all) comment sections is disgusting.
6 likesI thought she was marvelous and I think the emotion behind her plea was real. You can be emotional and only let it out at certain times, people. JEEZ.
I think that she is just playing footsie with him.
0 likes@ron sae You make a valid point, as the police NEED to pin the crime on SOMEBODY, ANYBODY the prosecution can get a conviction from. If the pieces fall in place for an innocent person, they will force the suspect into ANYTHING they say AGAINST them in a court of law. This is why SPECIALLY if you ARE innocent of a crime, you should SHUT UP and just wait for an attorney. NEVER give info to the police as it can align with their witnesses or evidence for the narrative on conviction they have. There is a good video on this from Regent University School of Law on YouTube title "Don't Talk to the Police". Watch it. And while they have a "good" cop give you some false hope of the justice system as he claims to do just the right things. PLENTY cops that don't.
1 like@ron sae It makes sense in this case that they pushed the suspect as they did have him lie to begin with. But I can agree on many situations that people are wrongfully convicted. Its nice that just a few of these cases go to retail and sometimes evidence like DNA exonerates them from wrong doing. But that is even more rare.
0 likes@Cyrene Each incarseration is equal to $60,000 of funding for the time they are sentenced yet they often do half time in a number of states. It is also FINACIALLY motivated as the prosecution wants a conviction regardless of right or wrong, and the police job is to create that from ANYTHING they can get their hands on, right or wrong.
0 likesVery good catch 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
0 likesWow,great men.👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
0 likesI thought they were playing footsie or something....
0 likesRelax... She is just flirting with him!
0 likesThe ole "good cop" vs "bad cop"? lols.. I only thought that was in the movies!!
0 likesBravo dude. ....
0 likesWouldn't have caught that either !
Im curious if he was new 🤔
Anyone tell us why
So cool!!!
0 likes@ron sae yeah but wutre ya gonna do ya know? police brutalitys been around since civilization demanded order to stave off chaos
0 likesI find her a bit annoying. Please please, I'm begging you, I'm begging you. Please, pleasea
0 likesron sae oh boo hoo.. detectives are bullying murderers... let’s shed a tear :‘(
1 likePower couple
0 likesEagle Eye Cherry over here! Damn I never would’ve clocked that! She was really running things in that respect
0 likesron sae is it not necessary to catch a criminal who can potentially kill another person who’s roaming free? Do you wanna feel safe in your surroundings or let criminals like him be on your neighborhood?
1 likeGood catch
0 likesKingofHearts they are dating.
0 likesWow
1 likemultirevelator like you could do any better
0 likesron sae why are you acting like you have a degree in this 💀
0 likes@The Creature from the Seventh Chamber Glad I'm not the only one that thought that. I found her whiney begging quite annoying, I can't believe that softens up many male criminals.
0 likesMaybe he speaks before he thinks?
0 likesI think she’s letting him know that she wants a go at him
0 likesdamnnn she's the one in control the whole time. she reads him and knows exactly when to change tactics and apply emotional pressure. what a champ.
3 likesShe cries, woman's tears name men very uncomfortable.
1 like@cala lily If you - as a comfortable video viewer - weren't comfortable, it means she was doing goddamn fantastic job.
0 likesVery astute observation!
0 likesshe wears the pants and bought him the pants he has on. its his first interrogation. he is friends with her and she bought the suit the day before so he looked better than the cheap suit he got off ebay.
0 likesNice observations, i was only listening to this while i worked, nice spots!
0 likesSuch tragedy, impressive they solved this so quickly.
The end there would aerve as a good video to show young men what happens when they don't temper their anger, whether drug addicts or not.
So sad.
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0 likes@Mark brown Do u know about the Great Reset the World Economic Forum has planned for us?
0 likesThe female interrogators voice is high pitched, whining and annoying. She thinks she is putting o. A good performance but she is not
0 likesNice
0 likesSuch an interesting observation
0 likesMy work husband and I have the same set up for meetings and presentations! It works really well.
0 likesWFH this year and into spring, we now IM each other on Zoom calls and it's very effective ... but we both miss me kicking him under the table :)
That's really cool haha, I noticed the second one. I wonder if its to keep him on track to a previous plan, I can't imagine it's if he's doing something wrong
0 likesI love how she stays silent and comes in with the whammy of the video evidence hahaha
It's funny since his nonsense alibi of having her text she's running off with a guy seems silly but it's worked in several cases, like that mom who killed the husband and then the daughter disappeared and she took her kid, she said oh she ran off to California
And got away with it
This guy is just a scumbag
Idk why she delivers it in such an emotional and distressed way, it's less intimidating than being forceful and direct and appealing to his empathy is a weird angle
0 likesIt's funny the how and why usually works well, the wife killer they gave him the out of blaming the wife for the killing to parley it into him admitting he did it
0 likesI didn’t catch those originally but damn there are a lot of things that go into an interrogation huh.
0 likesAwesome observation!
0 likesGreat catch!
0 likesOr maybe he forgot about the signalling and thought she was playing footsie with him under the table.
0 likes27:00 She scoots the chair forward, he stops talking and immediately resets posture so she can take over.
0 likesGood cop, bad cop. He's the friendly good cop and when he starts to step out of his role, 'bad' cop who is pressuring him taps him.
0 likesLol that was funny to watch
0 likesNice catch!
0 likeswho run the world..girls
0 likesI like the people in these comments pretending like they know anything about all of this. I personally agree that the kicking was a kinda neat way of communicating between the two, it doesn't mean that the detectives themselves are good people or not.
0 likesWho even gives a shit, when the person they're interrogating ended up being proven guilty.
She also had her hand on her neck right before he asks about the neck injury.
0 likesIt is interesting because I was also listening to this without watching and when I sensed she had verbal queues that he needs to back off and let her lead are around these points she is gentley nudging him
0 likesShe felt that she had a better read on the guy and I think he tended to agree and followed her lead.. They do make a good team sure..in this context..we dont have to over blow it and say theyre the greate4st people ever..it just is what it is..They did a decent job in this context to catch a murderer..
0 likesI think she sensed they could go a little harder when he backed off a little
Nice observed with the kick 👍
0 likes" seems like assault "
0 likes@ron sae this guys killed someone. What is your point here?
2 likesGet CA go o n
0 likesI think you’re the idea behind the newest video
0 likesAnd it was definitely on purpose too because on the last one she missed his leg and had to do it again.
0 likesWow good WOULDNT have caught that
0 likesShe is a gem
0 likesCool observation! Wow!!!
0 likesYou’re a genius...please keep making these videos. You’re analyses are without a doubt making my life easier in so many ways.
0 likesbecause WOMEN are in CHARGE!!!!! lmao
0 likesOr maybe he's just into getting beat by women
0 likeswow very very observant!
0 likesWow nice catch man....have you ever played a little game called 'Where's Waldo'?
0 likesdoes anyone know the names of the detectives?? i wanna watch more interrogations with them
0 likes@ron sae 50/50 true sometimes
0 likes@cala lily Even though her interrogating method isn't exactly appealing, it really worked well. She knows what she's doing.
1 like@Steve But who got a real confession with her questions? Looking like a school girl has nothing to do with anything. If anything, she got the criminal to get his guard down with the appeal to emotion and simply by coming across as less threatening. If they don't think you're a threat, they just might fess up as though they don't think you're a threat. Case closed.
2 likesThe kicks seem to be more of a communication that “hey this is my time to speak without interjection” as most women experience a hard time in group communication due to the males assertive nature and booming voice which causes most women to feel oppressed and upset that their voice could not be heard. My guess is that’s a rule that she made clear to her coworkers. So this may not be an isolated incident or form of communication between the two of them, but a common tactic that she uses in her work flow and the male coworkers know this. You may also replace male with assertive coworker in the case that it is not female vs male, but assertive vs reserved personality.
0 likesDaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam you really caught that shit
0 likesFemale interrogators acting at 29:50 is terrible 🤣
0 likes@Jazzmin Chen she brutally kicked the shit out of him.
0 likesThat was hard to watch when he broke down I had empathy for a killer? That doesn’t sit right with me
0 likes@Hannah Williams don't think about that shit to much, that was the only time he was really genuine about wtf happened
0 likesWell it happened to me and my wife too.
0 likesThat must be his reset button.
0 likesYou deserve a nobel prize for this catch sir
0 likes@Savanna LaVera Wait...Savanna...is that you? Were you alive this whole time?
0 likesGreat eye !
0 likes@Wodin's Word what
0 likesDo you think they've touched before?
0 likesbut thats assault
1 likeI wonder if she is the more experienced of the two and he needs a little direction sometimes
1 likeGlad you brought that up, thank you!! 😎
0 likesI bet they plow
0 likeshaha and I was wondering what her 'prop phone browse' is...
1 likeEy ... btw, Hollywood, people would eat up a reality show about this. HIPPADIPPAIDKWTF
Probably, She's his mentor. Maybe!! Just saying.
0 likesFucking Pros!
0 likesLol. I thought he was the lead investigator, and she was the trainee. Obviously not.
0 likes@ron sae no one asked
1 like@Steve she said the victim was her daughter's age. So she should at least be in her 40s, not very old but old enough to have gained that much experience.
1 likeI love it.
0 likes@bud ani Wait why are you dismissive of the person critizising the police when there's plenty of footage on this channel where police use manipulation tactics to imprison innocent people?
0 likes@ron sae do you hear how you sound? Punish them severely MORE than any criminal etc? It sounds extremely scary like you've joined some kind of religious extremist group or something, yes there are bad/criminal cops & bad policing/training/mistakes & policies/ procedures to be reformed, but the most dangerous thing is radical anything, taking anything to such an extreme is dangerous including both police who think they can get away with everything & do anything to cover up along with people who believe ALL cops are bad & need to be severely punished & all of that craziness. There are good cops and bad cops and changes needed in policing all around, but you make an assumption with ZERO evidence or openmindedness or willingness it sounds to see things honestly without the lens of bias. Like first of all the tactics that your are talking about are not unlawful unethical whatever you say, they are following "tried &true" psychological tactics that have been practiced humanely for a long time- yes there are false confessions which is tragic & theres always situations that csnt be avoided in any system but that's why we have SO man protections and rights in place- rights to be silent, to have a lawyer, to have so many detailed prescriptions that police and court satems must follow precisley in order for a fair trial to be determided by the judge, theres no double jeapory, so many things that we are LUCKY to have here in other countries they literary can lock you up indefinitely with no cause or lawyer you can be tried over and over again, like we have a good but inperfect sysyem which we continuously try to imporve and improve. False confessions are GAR from common, there are examples for certain but its far from a refualr or common occurrence and there is actually quite a few protections in place regarding how interviews are conducted/how they present the facts or photo lineups all of that/they ARE recorded & your comment about the footage when it clearly states the district attorney has chosen not to release it yet? This is not some like cut out piece of footage that is clearly altered footage or something! OMG were licky ANY of this is released Pre-trial!!!! They literaly just havent relsead his actual confession bc its still critical for a fair trial . Its for HIS protection actually(well anyone in this situation). Its astonishing that youre saying that clearly the police did something wrong here. Have you ever studied the process of confession? They had gotten him to a point where he KNOWS he isnt getting away with this, he lied to many times and was caught, they conducted this entirely professionally and in fact its clear that he was going to confess before it cuts out where they havent relsased yet, there is no need for any forcing or unlawful unethical anything, and absolutely NO valid reason to suggest or evidebce to support some crazy "alll police are bad show me thier crime" conspiracy with no basid in reality . Some situations do call for investigations into the law enforcement etc but this is literally a case that hasht gone to trial and your lucky we have ANY FOOTAGE AT ALL before the trial which is NOT STANDARD , You areseriously sounding like an extremist and its really scary
0 likesThats her way of reminding him to stfu when she's working her magic.
1 likeWhoa, good catch. I never would have noticed that
0 likesMe & my wife when we're talking to the kids LOL
0 likes@ron sae so you're upset at the police and not the guy who just murdered a girl. Ok .
1 likeWow..espesh the kick at 29.50..building up that anxiety on him trying to break him. They're a great team
0 likesHave to say the male investor dressed quite smart.
0 likes@ron sae i would assume the part that got edited out was very graphic and the investigator didn’t want people to hear him describe in detail the murder and disposal of her body.
0 likesIts sad that I find this awesome, but the fact that he was clearly deferring to her, that respect for a woman in her position is admirable. Its easy to feel like "eh I'm going to do this because I think its correct, idc what she thinks"...but he clearly respected her talent knowledge and intelligence (and yes knowledge is different than intelligence).
1 likeShe could be his superior, or maybe the guy has sum kind of feet fetish haha XD. By the way, i'm not sure if this looks like it to you guys, but it looks like she doesn't have her shoe on or something.
0 likesYepp, they make a good team :)
0 likesHope they aren’t hanky-p!inky as well.
Is it weird that I find that kind of adorable?
1 likeShe better be careful because most men I know don't like to be interupted and def don't like being kicked into silence
0 likesCareful ladies
Are you sure she's actually kicking him?? TBH it looks like she is just moving her legs because they are tired or someshit and it stops about 5 inches or so from his leg. Just sayin man, I think it's wrong.
0 likesLike husband and wife 😂
0 likesI’m watching her foot now & you're right. They definitely make a good team
0 likesMaybe he is new and she is using the little kicks to teach him
0 likes@Don Sur
0 likesOhh lord??#!!!!
30:47 Nice but she didn't kick him twice there. She just missed.
0 likes@meredocu elle lui a promis la pipe du condamné ,si il avouait.
0 likesFeet fetish. Hahahahah
0 likestheyre screwing def
0 likesWOW I didn't even notice. Very good eye to detail to have noticed. I thought he was the lead interrogator; but, it was her all along.
0 likesLol
0 likesactually, she is boss here...
0 likesI thought the female was a bit hysterical
0 likesdamn i just noticed that
0 likesCaught that .
0 likes@meredocu 😂 🤣 👏 🏆
1 like@Jéan Leon thanks for this explanation - I couldn’t believe her being that emotional was professional or effective, I thought it was making him clam up more. But I guess they play on contrast: him saying more = her backing off and softening.
0 likesWhat a sharp eye, I didn't even realise
0 likesI appreciate the time stamps thank you! I was js what's your profession? social worker, private investigator. It's so cool when ppl notice little things like this.
0 likesGood catch, Jeff wouldn't be able more than 2 cokes from these professionals
0 likesShe has pretty feet
0 likesGood catch!
0 likes@ron sae wow...they edited the video? I believe the utuber making this video edited it for time purposes.
0 likesPurrr
0 likes"Are still an effective team?"
0 likesFemale detective "Yes Sally we are an effective team."
Good catch!
0 likes@ron sae maybe because they haven't gone to trial and need to hold onto it before jury selection, or maybe out of respect for her family, or maybe by gag order from judge...there are so many more realistic reasons why we don't see that footage, but you want to get political on a psychology video. SMDH
0 likes@There's only 2 genders the male wasnt aggresive at all
1 likeWait a minute...
0 likesAre you the lady detective?!
Oh wow. Great catch. So interesting. Love watching these two. They’re awesome
0 likesnice observation
0 likesKnown as the "Kicking Technique" simplest one.
0 likesDamn good observation you’re totally right
0 likesI wonder what the reason she kicked were, like he must have been doing something "wrong" for her to do it, no shade to the male investigator obviously, it was probably something like he was applying to much pressure or was talking a little off course or something rather than throwing the case.
0 likesDamn, you are good!
0 likesreally good observation!!
0 likesWowwww you deserved all the props
0 likesOdd of her to do, being that the guy did the vast majority of the work. You might even see it as a bit self-important.
0 likes@There's only 2 genders yeah it’s a clean switch, though I’d say the female’s approach was the aggressive one because she made most of the accusations
1 like@ron sae they had proof she never got out of the car. It’s not like they didn’t have anything in the guy.
1 likeExcellent observation
0 likesOr maybe hes new
0 likesWow great catch! They are a fantastic duo!
0 likesGreat observation.
0 likes@DxH17 There straight badasses
0 likesGreat catch! I didn’t notice at all!
0 likesgood catch bro
0 likesYou're right that police manipulate the truth to get promotion ect. without thinking if the person is actually innocent or not but in this instance you're just wrong and weirdly passionate, the police in this video are doing it the right way, and it's common not to release graphic details of murders, it would be disrespectful otherwise and could influence a jury, even places like Sweden which are known for their moral police practices never release graphic acts done to a victim it's just disrespectful
1 likeInteresting! I think my GF may be an investigator too, because she also kicks me underneath the table if she wants me to shut up!
0 likesWow nice detail man
0 likesGreat catch
0 likes400th
0 likesAre you a detective yourself / thx for pointing that out too
0 likes@ron sae they are the ones who figured out who did this to her, they aren’t bullying they are interrogating to get information to get justice. These disgusting people deserves to be “bullied”
0 likesOhh snap!! :0
0 likesSeems like everyone is binge watching these videos after the “What pretending to be crazy looks like” hit everyone’s recommended
18654 likesReplies (481)
Yuuup
424 likesDont call me out like that
678 likesYep!
129 likesLmaoo yep
98 likeshaha, yes. not mad about it.
120 likesStarted this channel last year so I was glad to see a new video 👍🏼👍🏼
54 likesindeed
14 likesYes!!! Guilty! Just of binge watching, nothing else. I promise. Hahaha.
41 likesExactly lolol theyre just so addictive
27 likesOut my business 🤣🤣
10 likesYep!!!
6 likesBeen here almost 6 months lol got into this guy mid-quarantine
13 likesMe yar
4 likesI need to speak to my lawyer first
16 likesYou from FBi or something?
9 likesYup
2 likesI let that sit in my recommend for a couple days and literally just watched it shoot up 2 or 3 million views every 8 hours and then I finally watched it and now I'm binging too. 😅
14 likesYES
2 likesYep 🤚🏻
3 likesYep
2 likesI feel attacked
4 likesYeah
2 likesYea exactly, after that video I’m watching all of these
4 likesomg yes!!!!!
4 likesDamn you really gunna call us all out like that?
8 likesAre you stalking me? 🤨👊
4 likesYep!
3 likesthought it was only me
3 likesYep
2 likesHow..... how did - amazing
3 likeshow did you know ???
2 likesthis is too loud. 😭 don’t call me out like that
3 likesLmaoooooo gtfo how did you know this and also how did you know everyone else was doing this !?!?
5 likesHeh ye.
3 likeshere i am lol
3 likesDamn...called us all out....
2 likesYou’re at a 10, I need you at a 3, cause owie
4 likesOk ok I’m one of them 😂😂😂😷
1 likeHow did you know 😭
1 likeyessir
3 likesFacts lol
0 likesDude fr lmfao
1 likePretty much 😂😂 I usually skip a fair bit tho as it can get very boring listening to them just lie and be idiots lol
2 likesYessir
0 likesWow it hir a bunch of people at once lol
1 likeWow, so I'm not the only one XD
2 likesHahahaha I was just telling myself this same thing
0 likesBahahha..so True.. ill finish them soon tho
0 likes😂😂😂 got me
0 likesBro fr I know I have
0 likesyes sir we are
0 likesYessir lol
0 likesTruth! I'm hooked!
0 likesYooooo same lmfaooo
0 likesYeepp
0 likesYep - I love psychology, I love true crime reports.... so I m trappend here - 😂
1 likeOmg yeah 😂
0 likesHow tf did you know 😳
0 likesOmg so true
0 likesthats me
0 likesTrue story man its addictive
0 likes100%
0 likesFacts
0 likesI'm attacked
0 likesDang bro I thought I was the only one
1 likeYes
0 likesHahahahahha yes
0 likesoh my god how did you know...
1 like(looks for a security camera)
Same
0 likes100% truth
0 likesMe
0 likesguilty
0 likesbruh stop that's too accurate
0 likesYEAH 😂😂
0 likes@Onli9 Phoenix everyone is doing it
0 likesNOOOOOO!! How?? Did?? You?? Know???????
0 likesYoutube algorthym finally doing wonders
1 likeYup, gang gang!
1 likethat's exactly what i have been doing LMAO
1 likeYou can see me??
1 likehow did u know that...?
1 likeBruh, the accuracy of this post.
2 likesyep that’s basically it
1 likeYes!!! Exactly that . The question is though how did that happen ? How did this one video get recommended to all of us ? And We are all now so intrigued . Why didn’t we all know of these videos and this channel before
4 likesmy people lol
2 likesSTOPPPP NO ACTUALLY
1 likecalled out
0 likesOh God yes
0 likesYes
0 likes@SLYCOOP2 sometimes the algorithm knows us better than we know ourselves.
0 likesYuuup
0 likesStalker!
0 likesGlad to see im not alone
0 likesDude, u nailed it...
0 likesLotto numbers, please??
LOL YES
0 likesCorrect
0 likesBAHAHAH PLEASE-- EIDJWNR YOU EXPOSED ME
0 likesFunny but yes 🤣
0 likesDamn i got caught
0 likesIndeed
0 likesFacts
0 likesThis dudes channel blew up
1 likeLmaooooo I’ve been trying to find more videos like this
0 likeslol IKR!!
0 likesGod that video was so entertaining I’m addicted to this channel now
0 likesCongratulation you are a prophet
0 likesExactly. And I've already watched and commented on this video seven months ago! 😂
0 likesRofl
0 likesYessss
0 likesYes indeed
0 likesThe accuracy😃✋
0 likes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesits gonna ruin my home page
0 likesFr
0 likesThis was so accurate omg
0 likesGuilty
0 likesIm binging and im proud
0 likesFacts
0 likesWtf thats exactly what i did... yo thats scary ash 😅🤣
0 likesAmazing hypothesis, as that is indeed the case. Found these oddly easy to fall asleep too. Much like Huggbees’ “How it’s actually made”
0 likesFR
0 likesWait I thought I was the only one 🧍🏻♀️
0 likesFr tho I feel like everyone is they just so good
0 likesYES OMG
0 likesYepppp
0 likesdude how tf you know lmao
0 likesaccurate statement lol
0 likesDang ... mind you business
0 likesThis man knows too much
0 likesHaha yes
0 likesHe actually blew up from the Chris Wats case
0 likesYo wtf how did you know that?
0 likesI dont give a fuck this should be top comment
0 likesCuz its all FACTS!!!
Yup
0 likesyup, especially saul viewers
0 likesHow did you know-☠️☠️
0 likesNothing is random.
0 likesdamn
0 likestruuue
0 likeslollllllll
0 likesSheesh yeah man
0 likeswhy everyone going through the same process to get here😂
0 likesStarted watching after getting recommended "Jennifer's Solution"
1 likeWatch Jon Koppenhaver people, fantastic storytelling, I consider it one of his best.
0 likes😭yess
0 likesWe are all addicted. I guess youtube knows what its doing
0 likeshow tf u know that
0 likesYes indeed, gotta love the algorithm
0 likesAye😳
1 likeDude yes!!!!
0 likesHoly shit....
0 likesHey don’t expose me like that
0 likesYeah! I got hooked on these series
0 likesbingo!
0 likesYes
0 likesYessir
0 likesyup it's been 2 nights in a row, just click on it and can't stop watching,
0 likesi know i'm not the only one
Facts 😭
0 likesyessss
0 likesFacts
0 likessame haha
0 likeshow do you know oh my goodness it’s all i’ve been doing
0 likesLMAO. Get out of my head!
0 likesWHO TF DO U KNOW
0 likesLmao yes
0 likesI already watched his channel and was subscribed before so when it was recommended to me I didn’t think anything of it
0 likesNo lol I want this to be my future job I just want to know how it works
0 likesLmao damn quiet down
0 likeshow'd you know :0
0 likesIt’s got me wanting to learn more about reading people’s lies
0 likesYes
0 likes💯
0 likesEverything changed when the fire nation attacked me personally..
0 likesHow do you know that's the first one I watched lol
0 likesAnd I am perfectly fine with it
0 likesSo accurate lol
0 likesthat’s exactly what i’m doing😂💀
0 likesYESSS like i don’t want to gatekeep but this channel has definitely been a hidden gem for me ever since the chris watts videos they released!!!
0 likesdamn i thought i had an original thought for once
0 likesPrecisely lol hopefully this gets him more engagement because his videos are amazing. So interesting and informative. You can tell he does a great deal of research.
0 likesFo sho😂
0 likes:O
0 likesWhy is this so true 😂
0 likeshow the fuck do you know this? L you knw?
0 likesMan you really went through my search history huh?
0 likesYou got me 😂
0 likeslmao yea
0 likesBrooooooooo stop spitting facts dawg.
1 likeCaught me 😂
1 likeYesss
0 likesLeak so true!!!
0 likesbro factory..thats exactly why im here.....get outta my brain lol
0 likesI have free will. I have free will. I have free will.
0 likesI feel very attacked
0 likesHaah lol
0 likesdon’t expose me-
0 likesBingo!😂
0 likesGuilty! 👋👋
0 likesVery true lol
0 likesYep
0 likes@Magdalena Needham do you find it strange tpoooooooopoooòo
0 likesYes lol
0 likesWe are all going on the list- hey badger- how many cats did you kill for fun.....or sport?
0 likesI need a Alibaba!!!!
i got here when he uploaded the alec menassian interrogation. bummer he deleted it tho. every thing posted is great
0 likesSo true
0 likeshaha yes
0 likesDeffo loooool
0 likeslmfao yes
0 likeslmao wtf
0 likes>_> Fuck. You got me
0 likesThat's what I'm doing.
0 likesthe algorithm got us :D
0 likesSpot on!
0 likesyea and this dude got 900k subs in this week alone
0 likesMaybe we're the crazy ones...
0 likesHow did you know!
0 likesNailed it 😅
0 likesYes
0 likesSame here! Any idea how or why that popped up for everyone?
0 likesNo i just watch these periodically to remind myself what not to say if im being questioned by the police...
0 likes@ChefKenBurnEm I mean you’re right...these videos are a pretty good deterrent for murder. I don’t want to have to get my story straight and then try to stick to the lie and then get caught in it and then realize I’m going to be getting the shaft in prison.
0 likes😂😂wtf u watching me ?
0 likesTrue
0 likesOmg yes
0 likesfact
0 likesDetective badger on the case!
0 likesPeople finally realize how fucking fire JCS is. He was the only YouTuber whos patreon I’ve ever subscribed too. Top tier content.
0 likesYes that video on faking insanity was a work of genius.
0 likesBusted
0 likesAnd now we're all addicted to this channel
0 likesAbsolutely!
0 likesummmmmmmm
0 likesWoah! That's totally me!
0 likesYUUP
0 likesLmfao! Same Here😂
0 likesThat's about right
0 likesYep. Though I've had the "Guilty until proven innocent" video in the Watch Later list ever since it came out.
0 likesCorrect!
0 likesFOR REAL THEY ARE SO ADDICTIVE
0 likesPretty much
0 likesLmao that’s me
0 likesyup
0 likesLOL YES
0 likesYou can't expose us. Shhhhh 🐍
0 likesAnd worth every second!
1 likeMust be the demon.
0 likes:p
ye
0 likesyup
0 likesSo true!
0 likesBruhhh I’ve watched every single one
0 likesGot me
0 likesYessir
0 likesshiT
0 likesThat's... that's not what happened at all 🙄😬
0 likesI mean your not wrong
0 likesI have been watching all of them haha
0 likesGlad I’m not the only one lol
0 likesyep
0 likesYou didnt have to call me out like that though lol
0 likesnot even, it was “Jennifers Solution” and “There’s Something About Casey...” for me
0 likesYes
0 likesYesssss
0 likesI feel seen
0 likesGet out off my head...
0 likesFacts
0 likes1000000000000% true
0 likesyessirrrr
0 likesTRUUUUEEE
0 likesFacts
0 likesI really enjoy his videos. I watched the Casey Anthony one last night cuz it was recommended. I might had already seen it but I couldn’t recall and it didn’t reflect as already watched; but I wasn’t disappointed.
0 likesYUP
0 likesAbsolutely
0 likesI want more of content like that
0 likesYeeeerp
0 likes@SLYCOOP2 i guess it’s new, there’s not that much of this same content on this site
0 likesLiterally after watching that one video, my recommended got flooded with like 4 of these every time
0 likesikr
0 likesturns out i’ve never had a single original experience 😂
0 likesYesss
0 likesToo accurate lol
0 likesYes
0 likesVerdade, é por isso que estou aqui também!! Acertou miseráviiil!!!
0 likesYo! 🙋🏾♂️🤣
0 likesYou hit the nail on the head my friend
0 likesTell me about!
0 likesSpot on 😂
0 likesSpot on. Haha guilty as charged.
0 likesAre you an investigator or something? I want to talk to a lawyer.
0 likesYou couldn’t be more correct😂
0 likesYup
0 likesOmgggg XD
0 likesYeah, I get that impression too😂
0 likesYep. Me too. This channel is fascinating
0 likesYep, I’m a sucker for crime stuff
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dammit you fukkin right 😆
0 likesBro? You hiding in my walls??
0 likesNope I’m an OG
0 likesexactly
0 likesOmg! Yeeeees 🙈😂
0 likesYess!
0 likesYoooo.....u talking some king of witch craft that's exactly why I'm here 🤣
1 likeBusted
0 likesTrue
0 likesexactly that
0 likesYes!!!!! That's exactly what happened to me too!
0 likesHaha that literally just popped up not that long ago like 2 days ago the whole what pretending to be crazy video haha I never got to finish it
0 likesHELL YES
0 likesI feel attacked
0 likesYeees
0 likesYup!
0 likesindeed
0 likesBingo
0 likesHere dude 🤣
0 likesDamn you on point with this comment
0 likesLol same didn’t realize how many people were
0 likesMe exactly
0 likesHoly hell
0 likesDarn tootin
0 likesYou are not wrong
0 likes333 comments, right on. and yeah definitely, this channel is awesome!!
0 likestoo loud 😭😅
0 likesPretty much.
0 likesI'm in this photo, and I don't like it. 😉
0 likesWowwww okay
0 likesExcuse me...how did you knowwww?! I guess we all need to be friends now! <3
0 likesI watched my first one like a year ago before the Chris watts Netflix thing came out and haven’t thought of the channel until that video popped on my recommended
0 likesyeah somehow this shits on my feed
0 likesBingo
0 likesI got that video suggested for no reason now im stuck here also
0 likesYeah and I got my friend hooked lol
0 likesThat's how I got here.... 😅
0 likesYep....And we'll all meet again for the Season 1 premier on Netflix someday :)
0 likesBro how the fuck has this guy made such a following with a text to speech bot I'm in awe
0 likesIt’s a binge worthy channel for sure
0 likesYESSSSS
0 likesYessir
0 likespretty much lmao
0 likesGlad it’s not just me!! I’m hooked!!
0 likesBeen watching Jim can swim since he started buy I completely forgot about this channel until that vid now I'm tryna catch up😂
1 likeAHHAAHAH EXACTLY
0 likesYep....I don't understand how that happens
0 likesI’m addicted.
0 likesCrazy but true
0 likesGet out of my head.
0 likesso we all living the same life huh lmaoaoa
0 likesMy God there the ones making the algorithm
0 likesi have never been so addicted to a youtube channel lol
0 likesYup
0 likesLmaooo yeah
0 likesYes
0 likesYea this guy makes soemthing so boring and sad so engaging
0 likesYES
0 likeshow did i get here ? oh yeah crazy
0 likes100%
0 likesLiterally me
0 likesYUP
0 likesYes sirrr haha
0 likesYep
0 likesAyep. That'd be me right now.
0 likesdefinitel
0 likes@Badger YT is crazy with recommendations like that, so many people randomly get it. And it works too, it keeps us going for more.
0 likesCorrect sir! Never been so consumed by content like this
0 likesDeadass
0 likes@Shawn R Me too. Have been waiting for a new episode for ages. I'm glad they say they'll be uploading on a more frequent basis now, yay!
0 likesExactly😀
0 likesI started in quarantine last year from jennifer’s solution
0 likesExactly that
0 likesOmg I feel called out
0 likeshow tf did you know?
0 likesyep 😂
0 likesYessirrrr
0 likesYESSS
0 likesYup lol
0 likesyep, but its quality content tho
0 likesYep and I’ve already seen them all 🤣 I’m rewatching
0 likesLmao yes.
0 likesExactly
0 likesSeems like everyone is writing the same dumb comment while I binge watch his videos after I watched the “What pretending to be crazy looks like.”
0 likesWAIT HOW DO OU KNOW
0 likes"In this grim times, brothers, thus we were gathered."
0 likesHahahaha so true
0 likesHow do you know???
0 likesWow, u crazy...
0 likesthis man hit the algorithm’s g spot.
0 likesyes same. these fucking algorithms man
0 likesyup
0 likesthe google tastemaker has once again made a king
0 likesThe tiktok of Jodie Aries too!!
0 likesI subscribed, this channel is too good
1 likeYup
0 likesHahahhahaha yeah
0 likesChillll
0 likesIt’s interesting asf 😂😭
0 likesLMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO yea
0 likeshey! how did you know?
0 likesHaha yes! Why are we so predicable? The algorithm knows us well.
0 likesLmaooooo wowwwwwwww
0 likesWtfff you tooo???
0 likesA lot of good ones are deleted unfortunately
0 likes@Catography google en pessant
0 likes@Yahia ayman Kamaly I’ll ask your demon for a lawyer
1 like100% this^
0 likesthats what happened with me
0 likesYep
0 likesThat algorithm flow 👍
0 likesYesss me!!
0 likesLmao 10k likes and not one dislike. Glad we all out here living the same life😂
0 likesSO it wasn't just me...
0 likesYouTube's recommendation really helped him
0 likes@Yahia ayman Kamaly 😂😂
0 likesYou're not my real dad.
0 likes5000%. (Get it? since I've been binging these)
0 likes😐 How.....
0 likesDude YES. His videos are great though, I subbed!
0 likesLolll exactly👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
0 likesHahahah me!!
0 likeshow you know
0 likesyessss
0 likesliterally !
0 likesYea it's the youtube algo. I went to bed after 3am yesterday binge watching. And here I am again.
1 likeme rn
0 likesI feel seen
0 likesWe out heeeere
0 likesBeen here since he was Jim Can't Swim 👉😎👉
0 likesThat’s personal😌 stop callin me out like that
0 likesBroooooo lit😂😂😂
0 likesyes yes
0 likesTimestamp ?
0 likesyea
0 likesFacts
0 likesYessir
0 likesLmao damn right
0 likesNo been watching much longer that that
0 likesYep exactly right
0 likesAnother GovTube PSYOP.. they have an agenda...
0 likesAnd they are incredible
0 likesyup
0 likesExcuse me, do not read my mind again. 👊🙂
0 likesWait actually tho....
0 likesGuilty hahaha
0 likesThat's meee
0 likesFACTS
0 likesmeee
0 likesare you me
0 likesYou should become detective! Nailed it for me 😂
0 likes100%
0 likesGet out of my head!
1 likeI swear
0 likesOmg
0 likesYes
0 likesTrue
0 likesTrue
0 likesFacts
0 likesLmao yes
0 likesAhagsiwb lmaooo
0 likesYes
0 likesTrue
0 likesYes
0 likesTrye
0 likesImma get this comment to 500 so no more replies😈
0 likesSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NO EXPOSING ME
0 likesAhadwo
0 likesNw
0 likesyup
0 likesAhwowh
0 likesYes
0 likesNo
0 likesYes
0 likesFacts
0 likesLmavs
0 likesYes
0 likes10 left
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0 likesBest decision to click on that video, I’m hooked
0 likesABSOLUTELY
0 likesI know some people were annoyed by the female investigator, but I think her approach was able to work well because of the male investigators initial approach. Especially because of how the male responded to her accusations. Almost a good cop bad cop, but different because of her “heightened personal emotion.” She might not even have a daughter but you believe her when she says she does. They were a good team.
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And that “f-ing Savannah” he was still blaming her for him being in this position. It’s not that hard to not murder people, bro. All over a job at a restaurant. Weird ass.
202 likes@Alex Rosemary i mean i can see that but she simply said she never got out the car then straight begged him to confess putting the male detective almost back at square one. She wouldve been better staying silent or just leaving the room. Ive seen criminals walk free because the lawyer picked the interrogation apart and blamed the confession on the pressure they put on him therefore not making it a real one.
40 likes@Steve Lewandowski meh I don’t really see anything she did as coercive. They had video evidence Savannah never got out of the car. They planned on the female investigator being the one to disclose that information. Then her tactic of making it personal and being emotional, while the male played the “I understand you” role and keeping it cool, ultimately got him to confess. Could have been a gamble if not for the overwhelming evidence. Wouldn’t have worked without the male. Just my opinion.
108 likes@Alex Rosemary idk it could have worked. Im not an expert at psychology so im not sure but i just know if that was me in the chair i wouldve just told her to stfu because it aint workin on me. The male couldve just as easily revealed the same evidence and it wouldve done the same but begging him to confess, saying over an over "where is she, what did you do with her" like a pitiful version of batman isnt going to do the trick. As i said ive seen many criminals walk free because the confession wasnt real considering the pressure to do so
7 likesShe was real good. I was ready to confess to her.
74 likesWell said, but if I may add something:
59 likesDifferent suspects require different approaches. This approach here will certainly not work for everybody, but it worked with Lee Rodarte.
At the end of the day, its the result that matters, everything else is trivial.
@YouCensored I agree whole heartedly. Straight up psychopaths and sociopaths would not be affected by her at all.They definitely require different approaches and tactics. In this particular case, it worked, and what I mostly wanted to convey, is how obviously planned this was by the investigators. They knew he wasn’t some calculated killer. He acted on impulse and got in way over his head. He’s still a horrible person, but not someone completely devoid of emotion. There’s a lot of planning that goes into most interrogations, and I wanted to acknowledge how well these two individuals worked together to get a confession from this unique perpetrator.
47 likesShe was partly annoying on purpose. Make his situation uncomfortable. Remind him of his mother. Easiest way to stop her shrill nagging: confess.
52 likes@Steve Lewandowski Well clearly their tactic worked perfectly so what’s your problem?
7 likes@magnum_cx i never said i had one and they are lucky it did. If you actually read what i said then you wouldve seen me state clearly "ive seen criminals walk free because their lawyer picked apart the interrogation and said it wasnt a real confession because of the pressure placed on him." Im glad it worked at the end of the day but begging for a confession will not work on about 90 percent of people facing life😂 and considering thats all she said when she was there, she might as well went out to eat. So im confused what problem youre seeing. All i said was she didnt help at all🤣
0 likesefficiency level out of this world for first interview and full confession to a crime that he thought he got away with.
5 likes@ZorbaTheDutch that is correct and you know it!! one million percent
2 likes@Steve Lewandowski looks to me like the ‘pitiful Batman’ routine worked with flying colours. He confessed…
2 likesShe didn’t have to be good. He wanted to “play” a crazy guy. He was performing not confessing.
1 likeI think she was just playing the good cop... I guess?
0 likes@I Tell You For Free I’m gonna have to raise my hand here. You are right, they did make a good team, and I’m glad they got the confession.
1 likeWith that said, she was laying it on T H I C K. So much so, that I would amazed if it took longer than 10-15 seconds for Lee to see through that shit. It reminded me of really bad porn acting. (Or so I’ve been told… By a friend…)
I would have to imagine that she acted that way on purpose. Lord knows, I would’ve confessed just to get her to shut the hell up.
@Justin Perry ahahah yes i get what you mean. on the other hand Lee didnt seem to be the smartest fella, so that's probably why it worked on him!
3 likesThe ol good cop bad cop.
0 likesCouldn’t stand her whinging and face crying.
2 likesA southern lady getting mad at you in person is far worse than watching it
0 likesBro her fake acting didnt effect this guy. The male did a waaaay better job it being empathetic and hard when needed. The lady was delaying the interview.
4 likes@Young DURG nope they are intentionally that long and to wear you down and pick apart your answers and notice how he told them about the girlfriend drugs and if a man alone he would have been guarded bc he views men as a threat kind of like his prison view but with a women he let his guard down and especially with her saying the evidence against him he was busy thinking of excuses and couldn't go down the self defense road
7 likesthese people are both experienced investigators, who strategized an interrogation and successfully got a confession. and some guys here who have only watched youtube videos think they know any better, the internet is such a joke sometimes
11 likes@Steve Lewandowski They would have profiled his psychology before they made their plans.
2 likesShe did her best to plead with him but I imagine he already dealt with a female pleading for her life.
2 likes@Steve Lewandowski Looks like you have a problem specifically with her. This approach does wonders and you probably have no idea what you would have done in his place because there's adrenaline and other hormones working in his organism throughout the whole interrogation. But there's a certain group of people (primarily men) who are like this: 'he would've done this better', 'she could've just leave' and it has nothing to do with a female detective being competent or not
2 likesIt was so cringe.
0 likes@Steve Lewandowski It did the trick though. Also there is no way of knowing how you would react in a similar situation. Now you can let us know where you saw all these criminals walk free because of this very specific type of interrogation
1 likeI was thinking they look like a team you see in a cop show lol
0 likes@Ben Smith The weak always do!
0 likesRegardless. She was super annoying
1 like@prideOrhonesty more pitiful begging?
0 likes"What pretending to be crazy looks like" reeeeeaaallly took me down a rabbit hole
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Exactly. I haven’t stopped since that was first suggested
217 likesSame lol
40 likesa rabbit hole I'm still going down days later
67 likesWe've all been there.
20 likesHonestly though lol
8 likesI thought it was just me
14 likesLLOOOL facts
6 likes@Julia Saul I'm glad I'm not the only one
9 likesReally makes the work day go by fast 😂
12 likesIm still falling down the hole
5 likesSame lmao
4 likesyupp
3 likesMe too omg
5 likesSame
3 likesThat's how I ended up here too lol
6 likesomg same.
4 likesIm a victim of this too! xD
4 likesSame
2 likesikr!
2 likesbruv and the fact that it’s just 19 vids on the channel, 9 down 10 more to go (will probably be down to 7 more to go by the end of today)all in 24hrs
5 likesIm so glad there are others like me 😂😭
3 likessaaaame lmao
3 likesMe too loll
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1 likeSame
1 likesame for almost everyone here, i'd assume
2 likesRight here with ya
1 likeIVE BEEN WATCHING MORE THAN A VIDEO A DAY IM OBSESSED TOO LMAO
2 likesSaaaaaaame
1 likeI can't stop watching these.
1 likeYou’re way too right on this
1 likeSame, my start page is now flooded with True Crime content...
0 likesSame
0 likesomg same
0 likesYooooo WTF i literally watched that exact video
1 likeMe too
0 likesfor real!
0 likesscarily accurate
1 likeI was here for a while stuck on these videos and then stopped… but then the video showed up and I’m down the rabbit hole once more
1 likeMe to
1 likeOh good so it isn’t just me!
0 likesSame
0 likesTrue
0 likesAll within the last few days lol.
1 likeim still here too
1 likeIkr it’s been days
0 likesMe 2 😂😂😂
0 likesFucking same bro
0 likesSame
0 likesSame!
0 likesThat video was the deal breaker. He needs to hurry up with the next video.
0 likes@Julia Saul I'm the same too, and judging by comments most others, and i don't think it's the best one. Maybe we're victims of psychology xD I've watched around 8 in 3 days and i work 12 hour shifts lol
0 likesYeah same
1 likeLMAOOOOOOOOO
0 likesSame man. Holy shit, same
0 likesYep...weekend just disappeared. Damn it.
0 likesYup
1 likeHahaha SAAAAAAME!!!!
1 likeTHIS. I’ve been watching everyday for a week now lmao
1 likeoh my god right? I wasn't expecting to even watch that whole video.
1 likeThe virgin “the demon told me do that” vs the chad “yeah, I did it”
1 likeSame!!
1 likeBig facts
1 likeIkr these sre so intriguing
1 likeMy man we all have same fate
1 likefr
1 likeYeah dude. Tell me about it
1 likeYouTube really decided we all needed to see that video at the same time
1 likeWelcome to the greatest true crime channel on youtube!
1 likelol these videos are gonna change my gcse choices
1 likedude me too lol , nice tho
1 likeYep, I think I've watched it for 14 consecutive waking hours, a week ago I'd tell you I mocked gals on Tinder with "true crime" as an interest.
2 likesI've never had a stronger "train wreck", I almost turned off few episodes from disgust during the first three minutes.
Hi
1 likeme too, me too.
1 likewelcome to the JCS crew
2 likesI'm on the same boat with you.
1 likeHahaha yes same here
1 likeOmg all of us lol
1 likeSame
1 likeLITERALLY SAME same time frame and everything. i’ve been obsessed w these videos
1 likeThis is some top-tier documentary-type content, and it's free!
0 likesAgreed. The videos production is great and easy to watch too.
0 likesi started with that
0 likesand now i'm considering a degree in criminal psychology
Same
0 likesWe are all here because of this haha. First that damn video. And then I can't stop binge watching all the other ones.
0 likesExactly the same
0 likesMe too. I'm oddly hooked... can't wait for the next video
0 likesThere were wwaayy more vids on his patreon but it was taken down for some reason
0 likes@A Rat Been a fan for a LONG time my fellow JCS brother!
0 likescan relate
0 likesSame
0 likesI see I’m not alone
0 likesSAME. Terrific targeting and marketing.
0 likesGot me too lol
0 likesBro.. I don't think I'm going to dig myself out of this hole 😂😂
0 likesI literally watched all of them
0 likesYeah but now I'm hooked and need more posts.
0 likesi’ve been here all day too man
0 likesHey fellow rabbit hole victims
0 likesI am with you. Learning a lot. And how to catch a liar
0 likesman these are good stuff.. mmph. quality shiet.
0 likesSaaaameee I watched all his videos now
0 likesReally enjoying these videos though
0 likesme toooooooooo!! help!!!!!!
0 likesi only have one left after this and im gonna fall into a huge depression until the next video comes out LMAO
2 likes@CrazymindHQ it’s annoying lmao
0 likesI'm still going and wondering what to do when videos end
1 likestopppp me too
0 likesSame!!!!
0 likesI THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE
0 likesAh, you too?
0 likes@Nökk i’ve been watching criminal case videos for the last 3 weeks. it’s unhealthy!
0 likesNone of you went to rabbit hole tho. Wrong word. Maybe binge watching but rabbit hole is a bit different;)
0 likes@Rallyy CAR I caught myself in a weird, bizarre, or senseless situation that I found difficult to disengage from -
0 likesI mentally went somewhere surreal and strange while losing track of time-
I was on a mental journey that was complex, confusing, and/ or difficult to comprehend
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All actual defined examples of going down a rabbit hole- you go ahead and binge.. that sounds boring
@ATom Grav you are in a rabbit hole when you discover non-mainstream political content, conspiracies, questioning authority etc. Rabbit hole is not when you watch funny youtube videos for a couple of hours
0 likesHe's painting Savanah out to be some kind of vengeful drug addict and trying to defile her character posthumously. Savannah's mom has stage 4 colon cancer. Her mom said she was her "best caretaker" and put off college plans so she could stay home and help. He's a disgusting, selfish person.
1436 likesEDIT, I just wanted to clarify: I don't even look negatively on substance abuse because I recognize it as an illness & not a negative quality in the person. I just read an article about the case and her parents were really struggling and it broke my heart so I wanted to share it. She didn't deserve that no matter what.
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Glad he's in prison.
21 likes@Adam Austin prisons are big business in US, mostly privately owned. Lots of social engineering and brainwashing certain demographics of people takes place for years to fill these prisons for profit.
15 likesShe also doesn’t need to do all of that to be seen as a good person worthy of life. He can’t justify murdering her. He’s just sick and twisted.
26 likes@ari you're 100% right! I don't even look negatively on substance abuse because I recognize it as an illness & not a negative quality in the person. I just read an article about the case and her parents were really struggling and it broke my heart so I wanted to share it. She didn't deserve that no matter what.
25 likesSomehow it's always the most sweet girls that seem to be attracted to the biggest pieces of trash.
15 likes@argh100100 simp
6 likes@Adam Austin I think it's time to have a long overdue discussion about the Death Penalty.
2 likesGlad you said it btw cause the more we talk about it the more we can talk about it.
This shit has been going on for too long.
8 years in prison does not suddenly ressurect a murdered human being from the dead. It is an unforgivable (unreversable) act. The punishment should fit the crime.
Subscribe to my channel if you want me to be a figurehead to talk about this sortof stuff cause it's pissing me off too. I'm not even ''right wing'' so who is even saying no death penalty is a good idea?
@Adam Austin You also have more guns than anywhere else in the world.
1 likeWho is even warring you? The rest of the planet doesn't need guns dude
Just saying from personal experience: someone doing something nice for a family member or even a friend does not mean overall they are a good person, some of the worst fucking people I've ever had the displeasure of knowing have been incredibly kind at one point or another.
6 likesNot saying she wasnt actually a good person, just pointing out things arent always as they seem and you would be surprised who can do what.
Unbelievable
0 likesa selfish person or... a shellfish person?
0 likes@ras al'Asad not just through the entertainment industry then
0 likesI mean, even if she was a drug addict, that wouldnt make it any better. Drug addicts are people too.
2 likes@C if you look at my previous comment, you'll see that I agree with you. But I'll just edit the main comment for the future
0 likeswell substance abuser here; substance abuse doesn't make you kill people.
0 likesi recently got off the weed, off the alcohol and i was never really into the harder drugs despite having tried them.
while alcohol did give me artificial balls to the point where i would initiate a fight every now and then, none of any of the aforementioned drugs ever drove me to commit murder - particularly not a beautiful, innocent and helpful girl who i was dating.
the idea that the drugs made him do it is a cheap excuse, and one that should never be accepted in the courts of law. the only drug on this planet who can drive a person to potentially commit murder is heroin - anything below that should never be used as an excuse for murder, and even this one should be taken with a grain of salt, because there is always another way out of whatever problem you are having.
Spookie Babe Accusing someone of being a junkie is a negative and horrible thing to do and as someone who lived with one for 6 years I cannot say it’s a disease what I can say it slowly kills not only the addict but everyone involved or related to that person. A sick person undertakes everything to get better a junkie does nothing of the sort. Not until they are literally out of all other options and even then they’ll throw their loved ones for the wolves..You have nothing to be ashamed of by saying that calling her a junkie is a disgrace and a defilement of her person because it is exactly that.
0 likes@Zugzug Zugzugson great you are off the devil's hook. Happy for you. Hope you stay healthy & happy.
0 likesA lot of murderers do this to make them not look so bad for killing them. Chris Watts' dumb ass tried to make it seem like his wife killed their kids so people didn't know he was evil enough to kill them for no reason because he was dumb enough to take the bait when the interrogators fed it to him.
0 likesHe's pure evil
0 likesThis may seem like a weird thing to say - but it’s interesting to see someone actually react to confessing to a murder. So many on this channel just sit there calmly or have some kind of fake act. This guy seemed liked he was truly horrified by what he did. Not saying I have sympathy for him, but I was like ok finally someone who’s like “wow I’m screwed” & actually cries.
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It doesn't make it less horrible, but this was clearly an impulsive act rather than one that was planned. I imagine the emotional dynamics of grief/guilt/regret are totally different
335 likes@Neverending Bucket List He only regrets talking too much, didn't seem to regret it at all before, had no problem lying and acting like everything was cool.
210 likes@Neverending Bucket List right, like obviously burning her body & disposing of her remains is like the part where I’m like ok man you had a chance to at least try to do the right thing after the fact, but seeing someone actually break down was like finally seeing some humanity in one of these vids. So many people are so calculated & scary.
144 likes@Rachel Clo Either that, or he might've had an inkling that the interrogation was being taped and wanted to express remorse publicly in order to potentially get a lesser sentence.
64 likes@bejeweled This dude didn't even know the parking lot of the restaurant he worked for had a security camera, I doubt he's that calculating.
156 likesBut he is not upset about the sadness the family will have or that he actually killed her, he is upset he got caught and he broke down.
53 likesDon't be fooled, he's crying because he realized he's going to jail, he's crying because he realized he fucked up his entire life and there's no going back to it now. He's not crying for Savannah, the fact he killed her brutally, the fact she's gone, or how much pain her family and loved ones are going through now (or how much pain she went through when he killed her, for that matter). He's sorry for himself and his life, because he's never going to have the life he wanted. It may look like he has empathy but I'm not falling for it for a second. I'm glad he's in prison.
157 likesI think he regrets what he did and the fact he confessed lol. I mean he literally said “I’m so sorry savannah I’m so sorry” “this isn’t supposed to be you Lee” sounds like remorse to me. I’m not siding with him or trying to defend him but I mean at least he cries about it and feels bad about everything. There’s a lot of people who murder someone and laugh at the victims families or show absolutely no remorse.
89 likes@Vee I mean even so, I’m just saying a lot of these murderers don’t even freak out about that!
8 likes@Rachel Clo Yeah, that's true. But I'm glad he confessed, most killers don't do that either
16 likesHe’s upset that he got caught. My opinion.
11 likesHe said both "I'm sorry Savanah" and "Fucking Savanah". It will come as a shock to many of you that human minds are not binary. You can feel more than one feeling. This is a contrast to what ever species youtube commentators are who only see black and white.
57 likesHe is only horrified about having been caught and going to jail. Notice how ice cold he his when making up his little stories. No sign of remorse/bad conscience (by showing some nerviousness etc.) when he thinks he's got away with murder.
14 likesIt is obvious that he only regrets murdering the girl because he got caught - not because he feels regret about terminating another human being's life.
@Respect Dat1 why? He could have impulsively killed her and after having realised what he did, decided to burn and dispose of the evidence becuase he didnt want to go to jail.
11 likesIf in the event it was indeed impulsive, there are only 2 reactions; cover it up or confess immediately.
I believe his self-wallowing after he confessed was a calculated attend to humanise and garner sympathy, im just saying disposing of evidence after the fact doesnt automatically mean an act wasnt impulsive.
@Hartwin i see this as just a crime of passion. He's not really psychopath but just really a murderer because of him also being a drug user.
2 likes@Hartwin Yeah but he's in a police station in an interrogation room, he obviously knows there are cameras there and/or that he's being watched. Also he was calculating enough to burn her body and dispose of her in the lake
5 likesI thought the same. I think that he was truly sorry for what he did, but mostly only for himself. He’s sorry that he threw his own life and freedom away and that is 95% of what he’s feeling. Only a small tiny fraction of his character feels authentic remorse and guilt for taking her life….
5 likes@dehanju I think he does regret though, I also believe it's somewhat natural to act the way he did, like I wouldn't want to confess either and make up some bs story
3 likesI feel like my phrasing doesn't make sense but yknow
he looks more upset that he got caught than anything.
3 likesAre you serious? Just like everybody else who cried after lying and denying about comitting murder and getting rid of the corpse, he was just being sorry for himself. How can you get that twisted with remorse?
3 likesI actually felt empathy for him in that last clip.. I imagined myself in his place, it would be a total nightmare to know you will be going to jail for the rest of your life. But then again, it's easy to forget what he did to be in that situation.
4 likes@Jonathan Young he’s not that good of an actor though
1 like@Tony Arcieri lets put that down as a difference of opnion since theres no real way that i can dispute for comment.
1 likeHe blamed the victim. He said “F***ing Savannah.!”
5 likes@Joseph Brother bear he said that because he knows he was recorded.
1 like@Rachel Clo I agree with you that he should have done the right thing at that point. But I believe people go into self preservation mode and try to save themselves. I feel like they think, "this person is already gone, and confessing would only hurt me at this point".
1 likeHe said"mommy! I am gonna die in jail"...that is why he cries.
3 likesI did not heard a confession or some clue of one. Anyone would react like that knowing that they are known as killers without an alibi. Why they did not release the entire video with him confessing how he did it?
0 likesNo not crying because he felt bad for what he did to the beautiful young girl. He is crying because he knows he is spending the rest of his life in prison.
2 likes@bejeweled seemed like forced tears, like he wanted to cry but couldnt get a real emotional hard cry
1 like@Vee very much with you. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have no sympathy for him. He obviously had none for her. Just like a child, he's crying because he got caught and will probably go to jail. Maybe I should be more empathetic, but this guys little break down did not move me at all.
1 likeHe wasn't horrified by what he had done. His tears were for himself.
1 like@Rick Schaeffer i dont think they were even legit tears
0 likeshe only felt horrified because he was caught, not of what he did to this girl.
0 likes@bejeweled dehanju and bejeweled I think you're both right. I think he realised he's fucked, and was taking it out on himself saying 'you're so stupid' etc, probably thinking he should have kept his mouth shut, and feeling bad about being caught and realising the detectives have got what they need. He must of known he was being recorded as don't they have to sign something accepting that they're being filmed while being questioned? I think they record every interrogation these days for evidence. So therefore he might have been acting like that while he was on his own, to try the act of remorse. I'm no expert, it's just my opinion.
0 likesIf I learned anything from watching this channel, he was not horrified about what he did. He was a complete wreck because he was caught dead in his tracks. If he would have never been caught I’m sure he would still be picking his scabs at bone fish
0 likesImagine going to your maker with innocent blood on your hands. I'm convinced that all evil, mean, shitty people pay dearly for their deeds in the next phase of existence. BUT... Was it their fault? Were they born evil? Did something happen to them? Who did it? Maybe our life on this planet isn't that important, or at least we shouldn't take it too seriously. That's how I stay sane.
0 likes@Finished!!!!!! yes it was his fault. He choked her and snapped her neck and refused to immediately call rescue to see if they could even attempt to save her. Instead, he took her body home, burned it, and disposed of it in a body of water. I’m not sure where you got “innocent” from.
0 likes@bejeweled that’s exactly what I thought. He for sure knew he was being recorded.
0 likesthat's not him being horrified at what he did. That's him realizing he got caught, and he is reacting as someone who is used to being privileged to treat women like disposable objects all his life but is no longer allowed to.
1 likeDon't mistake regret for remorse. He regrets getting caught. If he had remorse about the murder, he would not have burned her body and lied about it. I hope he keeps crying like that for the rest of his miserable life. He doesn't deserve to rest ever again.
1 like@Joseph Brother bear he cries after he got caught after his whole life is slipping away from him.
0 likesYeah, no, he doesn't give a fuck about what he did or about the girl or her family, he's just afraid to die in jail
1 like@Joseph Brother bear Would’ve loved to have seen that remorse when he was burning her body. I did feel a bit of pity seeing him realize his situation but remember nobody put him there besides his own actions.
0 likesHe's crying because he knows he's gonna get that ass tapped! The only remorse he has is for selfish reasons otherwise he would have confessed up front that it was an accident.
0 likes@dehanju true
0 likes@skylar mccready well your opinion is quite the common response to anyone showing emotions after interrogation. I actually do think he was genuinely showing remorse in the end. This was definitely not a planned murder of any sort. So it makes it a bit different.
0 likesDon't get me wrong, he is still a pos for what he did.
No I feel you!!! This was a good one too! He was remorseful. Did you see the lady that killed her two daughters and just kept saying I won’t answer any questions. She was cold and heartless. First person that seems human.
0 likesI think he was crying because how got caught not because he had regretted what he's done
1 likeSome people only float on the surface of a streaming current of reactionary consciousness. The sort who find themselves enacting impulsive deeds of passionate hedonism are often the same to display unfettered bouts of emotions like grief or regret.
0 likesI'll never understand how someone can just take a life. Both of my parents we're murdered, left in a hole not found for a year. We still have no suspect. No one's been charged. I miss them both so much. I just wish I had someone to blame. Someone to ask why. They were amazing people and I'll never understand why.
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I can't imagine your pain. I'm so sorry.
132 likesI'm so sorry for your tragic loss.
25 likesGod bless your soul 😪❤️❤️🙏🏽
12 likesI’m so sorry for your loss. I hope you get the answers you’re looking for.
10 likessorry for your loss
6 likes@Jokester XD woah edgy
0 likesI don't think we could ever understand someone so broken that they kill without a reason. At least in the case in the video, from his breakdown, I don't think he intended to do it. I think he was telling the truth in part when he was talking about them having a fight in his car, and in fear of his life being ruined by her, he ruined it in another way. It's a horrible situation, and he deserves what he gets for his actions. But, I don't think it was a cold blooded act.
7 likesMy condolences for your family, though. I hope someday you can find the answer.
I’m so sorry for your loss, I hope you find answers and peace soon x
2 likesThat’s horrible
1 likeHaving someone to blame won’t change anything they will still be gone and you will still be in pain
3 likesi am so so sorry.
1 likeI’m sorry to hear that, hope you never experience that time of pain again, and hope they find the horrible person who did this
2 likesYou look the type
0 likesMay they have peace
1 likeI dunt understand either. And that's terrible! So sorry about your parents. there are evil people out there.
1 likeHoly shit that's terrible... I'm so sorry. I could even feel sadness by just reading this. I'm sorry...
1 likeOmg...so Sorry for your pain...
1 like@cool boy harrisonPlayz agree...but they might get some close ur...
1 likeHahahahhahahahahaahhahahaha
1 likeThat’s terrible. My condolences
1 likeI would to defend my home. Sadly nuke a city to save my loved ones if they were hostages. I would absolutely become suicidal, but defending the people I love is my priority in life after burying so many. I am a broken man.
0 likesSo defensive violence is where the only time I will do it
The only right answer and the one you have to learn to accept is this.. Because life. Because existence. Tao Te Ching.
0 likes@Jordan Babcock There are sometimes where you should. A good person will regret it, but a bad person will look forward.
0 likesPeople are fucked up.
@Jedi Cordero ...
0 likesThank you so much for the condolences everyone. Life has been so hard since I lost them. They were amazing people and my best friends. I miss them both so much. I just pray one day we will have answers.
1 likeI am so very sorry you had to experience such a horrible thing. My heart and prayers go out to you and I pray that the horrible person that did this is found soon.
0 likesim so sorry for your loss even do im a random stranger across the world, keep your head up.
1 likeThat is so horrible I pray you and your family find peace. You all will be together again someday god bless
0 likesThat's terrible, I'm so sorry and I hope one day justice will come your way
0 likesSo how long have you known them?
0 likesOh that’ s painful to Imagine. Sorry for your l’ossature. I Hope you will find Peace. I will pray for you tonight. Greetingss from Germany!
0 likesWere* murdered, no we're...
0 likes@Dustin Bridges hahaha XD
0 likeswhat murder case is it
0 likesI don’t know if I believe this, I need jcs to prove if this text is true...
0 likesI’m so sorry for your loss! I hope that one day you find justice for them!
0 likesI am sorry for your loss. It's important to say that under specific circumstances absolutely anyone can kill someone else. Now of course for some people it is easy to kill - you do not think twice when trying to swat a mosquito and some people (namely psychopaths and sociopaths) feel that lack of empathy towards other people. For these people pretty much any circumstances for them are the specific ones. But most others, rational and mentally healthy people, need to reach their breaking point. Most never do. Some do in self defence (a lot of people do not even there). Some do after being trained, groomed or taught to do so. Some do due to desperation. And some are just born past their own breaking point.
0 likesfunniest thing i have heard all day....thanks for that.
1 like@Sir Loin don’t you love how people put fake sob stories for attention 😂
0 likes@Gavin Stone its so pathetic. I wish it was true though.
1 likeI asked my wife last night while we were driving what night her hair appointment was. It was a 2.5 km long response. If she ever gets interrogated for anything, she’s going to jail forever.
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My wife is the same way. Ask her what time it is and she'll tell you how to build a clock.
34 likesThat's not the only thing that gets someone convicted 🙄
2 likes@Ashelyn Rodriguez - Lighten up Ashelyn, He was joking about the fact that his wife is windy. I was also joking about the fact that my wife won't shut up. These were jokes okay? We are well aware that people do not get sentenced to prison for excessive talking.
30 likes@Don Miller "lighten up" you dont even know me. I'm a funny person but these aren't funny "jokes". They're lame and people keep saying the same shit over in the comments. I have a right to comment just as much as you do. "Lighten up". Sorry maybe I don't understand old man humor.
5 likes@Don Miller lmao, thanks for the multiple chuckles, it was definitely needed.
4 likes@Ashley - I am pleased to have been of service. :)
4 likes😂😂😂 My husband would say this about me
4 likesI just have to say that I love your picture Tom Foolery
4 likesLol I was thinking this about myself. I would definitely not give short responses, especially if I were nervous from speaking to the police.
4 likesSo she's cheating on you 🤣
3 likesG R it’s only cheating if the cheated cares.
2 likes🤣🤣
0 likesLmao thank you for the laughs, Tom and Don! My significant other isn't as grateful unfortunately. My cackling woke him up (currently 1:30AM), but he'll get over it. Hopefully, it'll be in the same manner that the jokes went over *Ashelyn's head.
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂. I'm a writer, so I probably would have the same problem. ..doubly so being female.
1 likeThis detective must like a challenge. It has got to be harder to pull a confession wearing a bow-tie.
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Steve Buscemi was a breadstick in a bowtie.
3 likesnever noticed this. makes a lot of sense though if he visits a lot of crime scenes. doctors typically wear bowties instead of long ties to avoid them dangling during an examination
12 likesI thought the exact same thing about one of the detectives in "The first 48". Coincidentally, he quit the job a couple of seasons later... :D
4 likesXD
2 likesor easier, from what we can gather form this video, detectives use every means at their disposal even if that means looking harmless and even stupid if that means putting the suspect in a false sense of security. anything and everything, within legal boundaries, to trip them up.
18 likesanartismal I was thinking the same thing. It’s pretty smart.
4 likesThere is a detective who is often featured on The First 48 who wears one all the time, too.
2 likesThe suspect is apparently known as cool so he has to our class him. Rolling in to an interrogation in a straight up bow tie is way cooler.
3 likesROFL!
1 likeThat's The Bow Tie of Defiance, it adds +20 to Interrogation attribute
3 likes@TheBrillyx
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I mean, if he did freak out and try to strangle him with the long tie that would kind of be the best outcome in a way? They could hold him on that charge, he looks very guilty and there's no way he'd be able to kill him in a police station...is there?
0 likesIt's disarming.
0 likesThat dude is from The First 48 Oklahoma Tulsa or OKC
0 likes@Peanut Forever that's him
0 likesDeja Chhun, definitely Tulsa. Love that detective!
0 likesThis is my new favorite channel !
0 likesSorry, narrator: It is NOT hard to watch his self-centered, self-pitying wailing at the end. He is NOT human, he has no remorse for what he did to Savannah, and I feel no pity for him. Have fun in prison, coward.
0 likesHe got 40 years, plus credit for time served.
0 likesIf I were being investigated I would say I am done talking simply because of how ANNOYING I find the female detective
0 likes40 years in prison as part of a plea deal.
0 likesan unusual place for a self inflicted injury? really? i have self inflicted scars on my neck and i swear the neck is at least the 4th common thing after wrists,thighs,head...and then neck? no?
0 likesjust researched and wrists 30%. thighs 7%. head and neck 2%. which are the most common.
So how long have you known the victim..20 mins later still explaining .
0 likesCould he have just said I want to invoke my right to silence?
0 likes"I just did some heroin".. lmfao... as someone who has has issues with drugs in the past I have never EVER heard someone on heroin use that name when talking about said drug. That's what people say who have zero clue call drugs. By their proper name. Lmfao
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I can relate to this big time. "Hello, I'd like to buy some marijuana and methamphetamine." LOL!
0 likesSo apparently begging is a legit interrogation technique ....
3 likesIs a lawyer in the US even more expensive than a hospital stay or why don't people ask for one at the latest when they realize something is wrong?
0 likesApart from that, there are helpful videos on YT for people in such situations, like "Don't Talk to the Police".
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Only criminals won't talk to cops so🤷
0 likes" aguish over his decision to confess" ?🤔 I thought it was for killing someone
0 likesChoices and decisions made by some people 😢
0 likesThe captions at 37:53 are wrong.
0 likesHe says, "Savanah, I was so nice to you" ('You' being Savanah. Then he says, "For somebody who was a bitch to you", turning the You back to first person, him. He's arguing with himself, how could she have been a bitch, (and forced him this far) when he had been so nice to her. "How does that make any sense?" - This is the follow up 'pat me on the back', question.
"How long have you known Savannah?"
0 likes"Well, y'see, this reminds me of this time I was with my good friend Orville...."
Those are the funniest text messages I have ever seen
1 likeI have the feeling that the female investigator was very emotional but suddenly turns quietly and analytical.
0 likesIs this a thatic or something? To assimilate the women white the emotional aspect??
The female detective is soooo dramatic. I think she makes a suspect irritated by her fake emotions, so they hurry to confess not to hear that))
0 likes"One day when you have kids..."
0 likesDon't think that's gonna happen lol
my new fav weekend activity is binge-watching these videos with a bottle of wine and yelling at the TV
0 likesMy dad used to say don't trust a man wearing a bow tie. He's been gone since 78. It's 2022
0 likesThe interrogations put on a whole show lol
0 likesIf anyone was wondering he got 40 years in prison
0 likes38:41 He finally realizes he can't escape himself
0 likes"I'm gonna die in jail, Momma." Poor baby.
0 likesnarrator: "innocent ppl tend to answer in three short responses"
0 likesLee: proceeds to blabber for 5 mins
u giving urself away bud
it blows my mind how many people don't lawyer up immediately...
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Because every cop show on TV makes a point of saying that someone looks guilty if they lawyer up or refuse a polygraph. A lot of people think their best play is to co-operate and bullshit their way out of it.
1 likeHerion can cause paranoid thought but not really this coward is a liar.
0 likesAt 12:51 (4:51 into response of "how do you know her?) even his subconscious is telling him to stop talking.
0 likesfemale detective think her life is a movie lmao
3 likesThe woman got a bit too emotional tbh. I think if they were more cold They might’ve gotten somewhere faster
0 likesI dont want to hear you crying. You weren't crying when you murdered that poor go. All I got to say is CRY ME A RIVER!
1 likeThe female detective is too emotional….. she should have been removed from the interview
1 like"How long have you known savannah?"
1 like"Well in the beginning the earth was a molten mass..."
yeah... "she does hard drugs. I can't do the hard stuff" like the interviewer is just gonna write this off mentally as a drug addict and this amazing manager chef was just mixed up with a junkie.
0 likesThey release his reaction but not his confession??? Wowww
0 likesJCS commentary doesn't mention that the detectives are working against each other - the male is leading him up the garden path of a fake story to lead him into a self-contradiction, but before he gets there, the female jumps in badgering him; she's undermining the male's strategy, because all she achieves is a blanket denial. So it would have been just as effective to simply have shown him the video in the first place, and then leave him alone to curse his bad luck in getting caught.
0 likes“how long did you know savannah”
0 likes“so basically my mom is a meth addict”
this female detective is too emotional 😂😂😂
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It was done intentionally, dude got 40 years on a plea bargain
0 likesCop: How do you know Savannah?
3101 likesLee: According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think is impossible. Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Yellow, black. Ooh, black and yellow! Let's shake it up a little. Barry! Breakfast is ready!
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43 likesHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA PLZ THIS IS SENDING ME🤩🤞
18 likesSame comments all over the place..
7 likesBlack and yellow
11 likesLegendary
3 likesyou are the definition of funny
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11 likesmy cat's breath smells like cat food
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4 likes😂
1 like@Maze 2 but this one’s funny.
2 likesI'm on min 5 of his response, damn. He sank his ship....
3 likesYAPP
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0 likeshhahahhahahahahahhahahah 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Shirubeon Holt shit
0 likesFalse narrative ……
0 likesI immediately knew what is was on the 11th word
0 likesWorld War II or the Second World War, often abbreviated as WWII or WW2, was a global war that lasted from 1939 to 1945. It involved the vast majority of the world's countries—including all of the great powers—forming two opposing military alliances: the Allies and the Axis powers. In a total war directly involving more than 100 million personnel from more than 30 countries, the major participants threw their entire economic, industrial, and scientific capabilities behind the war effort, blurring the distinction between civilian and military resources. Aircraft played a major role in the conflict, enabling the strategic bombing of population centres and the only two uses of nuclear weapons in war. World War II was by far the deadliest conflict in human history, and resulted in 70 to 85 million fatalities, a majority being civilians. Tens of millions of people died due to genocides (including the Holocaust), starvation, massacres, and disease. In the wake of the Axis defeat, Germany and Japan were occupied, and war crimes tribunals were conducted against German and Japanese leaders.
0 likesWorld War II is generally considered to have begun on 1 September 1939, when Nazi Germany, under Adolf Hitler, invaded Poland. The United Kingdom and France subsequently declared war on the 3rd. Under the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact of August 1939, Germany and the Soviet Union had partitioned Poland and marked out their "spheres of influence" across Finland, Romania and the Baltic states. From late 1939 to early 1941, in a series of campaigns and treaties, Germany conquered or controlled much of continental Europe, and formed the Axis alliance with Italy and Japan (along with other countries later on). Following the onset of campaigns in North Africa and East Africa, and the fall of France in mid-1940, the war continued primarily between the European Axis powers and the British Empire, with war in the Balkans, the aerial Battle of Britain, the Blitz of the UK, and the Battle of the Atlantic. On 22 June 1941, Germany led the European Axis powers in an invasion of the Soviet Union, opening the Eastern Front, the largest land theatre of war in history and trapping the Axis powers, crucially the German Wehrmacht, in a war of attrition.
Japan, which aimed to dominate Asia and the Pacific, was at war with the Republic of China by 1937. In December 1941, Japan attacked American and British territories with near-simultaneous offensives against Southeast Asia and the Central Pacific, including an attack on the US fleet at Pearl Harbor which forced the US to declare war against Japan; the European Axis powers declared war on the US in solidarity. Japan soon captured much of the western Pacific, but its advances were halted in 1942 after losing the critical Battle of Midway; later, Germany and Italy were defeated in North Africa and at Stalingrad in the Soviet Union. Key setbacks in 1943—including a series of German defeats on the Eastern Front, the Allied invasions of Sicily and the Italian mainland, and Allied offensives in the Pacific—cost the Axis powers their initiative and forced it into strategic retreat on all fronts. In 1944, the Western Allies invaded German-occupied France, while the Soviet Union regained its territorial losses and turned towards Germany and its allies. During 1944 and 1945, Japan suffered reversals in mainland Asia, while the Allies crippled the Japanese Navy and captured key western Pacific islands.
The war in Europe concluded with the liberation of German-occupied territories, and the invasion of Germany by the Western Allies and the Soviet Union, culminating in the fall of Berlin to Soviet troops, Hitler's suicide and the German unconditional surrender on 8 May 1945. Following the Potsdam Declaration by the Allies on 26 July 1945 and the refusal of Japan to surrender on its terms, the United States dropped the first atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima, on 6 August, and Nagasaki, on 9 August. Faced with an imminent invasion of the Japanese archipelago, the possibility of additional atomic bombings, and the Soviet entry into the war against Japan and its invasion of Manchuria, Japan announced its intention to surrender on 15 August, then signed the surrender document on 2 September 1945, cementing total victory in Asia for the Allies.
World War II changed the political alignment and social structure of the globe. The United Nations (UN) was established to foster international co-operation and prevent future conflicts, and the victorious great powers—China, France, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, and the United States—became the permanent members of its Security Council. The Soviet Union and the United States emerged as rival superpowers, setting the stage for the nearly half-century-long Cold War. In the wake of European devastation, the influence of its great powers waned, triggering the decolonisation of Africa and Asia. Most countries whose industries had been damaged moved towards economic recovery and expansion. Political integration, especially in Europe, began as an effort to forestall future hostilities, end pre-war enmities and forge a sense of common identity.
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0 likesLol
0 likesLMBOOOOOOOO!!!
0 likesOk but before i read the entire thing i was creeped out because thats my name
0 likes-Is this a good situation? To be a scribe?
1 like-You know, I don’t think there are good or bad situations. If I had to sum up my life today with you, I’d say that this is firstly meetings, people who gave me their hands may be at a moment when I couldn’t, when I was alone at home. And it is a bit curious to realize that coincidences and meetings forge a destiny because when you have the taste of the thing, when you have the taste of the well done thing, the beautiful gesture, sometimes you don’t find the speaker, I’d say, the mirror which helps you to progress. Well, it’s not my case today because I could, and I thank life, I sing life, I dance life, I’m nothing but love. And finally, when a lot of people ask me “How do you do to have this humanity?” I simply answer, it is this taste of love, this taste of water which pushed me today to undertake a mechanic construction but tomorrow, who knows, I would may be serve the community, and give the gift.. The gift of myself.
@Justyna P 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesWow this sure is a funny comment 😒
0 likeslmao this is funny
0 likes@Shirubeon ok you win
0 likesBees debunk "gravity"
0 likes@Shirubeon no
0 likesThis guy gives Lord of the rings trilogy answers lol
0 likesDid anybody notice how time of day is perfectly timed whit the interrogation time?
0 likesshe was so beautifull, :( life can be so sad and unfair
1 likeWere the videos removed because they don't want you to know how to get out of interrogations?
1 likeWhat else makes any sense?
Detective: "So how did you know Savannah?"
1881 likesLee: "It's been 84 years, and I can still smell the fresh paint. The china had never been used. The sheets had never been slept in. Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams"
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Way too much information
3 likes...and It was..it really was ..🎶
35 likesThis comment is so legendary! 😂😂😂
32 likesThis comment made my day😂
15 likesLol.
3 likesthie is my favorite comment omg
3 likes🤣
2 likes😂😂😂😂😂 I can't stop laughing! Her real name is Rose, Rose Dawson, not Savanah
7 likes@NOLA GIRL Savanah is the victim’s name. 🙄🤦🏻♀️
0 likes@AJM I know, I was being sarcastic to the Titanic comment..it's called sarcasm
14 likes@NOLA GIRL wow! Went right over my head! My bad 😅
5 likes@AJM no worries 😂😂
3 likesEvery night in my dreams, I see you, I FEEL you
4 likesWhere is the fucking diamond Rose, WHERE IS IT!!!
8 likesi was gonna draw her like one of my french girls
3 likes@Tess Stickels Titanic movie look it up smh can't believe you don't know that movie
2 likes@Tess Stickels r/woosh
1 likeLOL!
0 likesYour fing funny
0 likes😭😂😂😂 may be the greatest comment I’ve ever read on yt
1 likeBest comment🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@Stacie23 😆😆😆
0 likesThis comment a classic
0 likes@Abby Harding ITS ALL HEART BREAKING
0 likes😂🤣
0 likesInterrogator: "Lee we really just need to know about Savann-" Lee: "Do you want to hear this or not Mr. Interrogator?"
3 likes😭😭😂😂😂😂🚶♀️💀
0 likes@Sohnilove lmao
0 likesI love it 🤣
0 likesYou are insane LMAO!!!!!
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Nun Ya yep
0 likesrose, there was more than enough space on the door for jack
0 likesThats brilliant.
0 likeshilarious!!
0 likesWith the flute going
0 likesContinue...
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes🤣🤣🤣 funny sht
0 likesBahahaha
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0 likesOmggg I'm dying. 😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesAmazing
0 likesThat adderol had that boi yappin to the captain
0 likesThis is the BEST comment on this video 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
0 likesthis man is the dude in the group chat that always posts cringe copypastas forsure
0 likesSo what’s the update and yes he needed a lawyer regardless
0 likesWatching him whine for his mommy was the cleanest, best pleasure
0 likes"...will make it's observation far more tolerable, but by no means easy."
0 likesCuts to an ad for a burger and onion rings 🤣🤣🤣
The verdict on March 11th, 2021:
1271 likesLee Rodarte, the man charged with killing the 21-year old, Savannah Gold, in 2017, was sentenced to 40 years in prison.
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Good
77 likesMusic to my ears 🎶
51 likesWas just about to ask if anyone knew what happened to him. Glad the scumbag got his karma
38 likesAnd the woman trying to kill her husband by shooting him is the head while sleeping got 1 year. Congratulations! This is real justice
68 likes@Victor-Marius Pîrvan didn't he wake up to a "headache" which turned out to be bullet fragments in his brain :P
15 likesHe should serve every goddamned second of that 40 years.
13 likes@thamarindo unu agreed!!
10 likesJust to add onto this, he pleaded guilty to 2nd degree murder and got some charges dropped as part of the plea bargain.
8 likes@Victor-Marius Pîrvan there is always someone with a red herring outburst.
7 likesThat person is you. Congrats.
@Tamara I don't remember having an outburst when I left those comments. Only saying facts in a normal way
1 like@Victor-Marius Pîrvan I bet you're one of those "what-about" guys. Every time something horrible happened to a woman, you probably would say "what about that one time this one woman hurt this one guy?"
25 likes@Tony Arcieri women refuse to admit this shit like its some sort of secret women get charges for the same crimes a man does and they get less time or penalties a man does
4 likes@TP how much does it cost me for that characterisation, Mr. Psychologist. You should go back to school because you'll lose that bet
0 likesalso, i’m quite frankly curious as to why he ONLY got 40 years…
14 likesJustice!!!!!!
0 likesIncels be everywhere.
13 likes@autumn h above someone commented it was because he eventually took a plea to have some charges dropped for second degree murder . I think he should have gotten life this was horrific she was only 21 and he mutilated her body after the fact.
9 likes@TP the reason you’re saying he’s an”what about” guy is because you know it’s hypocritical.
1 like“What aboutery” is what hypocrites accuse in others as a defence.
@cornnflaek yeah you are right its mens fault for putting women on a pedestal when they clearly done nothing to deserve it n im not jealous of anything men never needed such a thing why would we need it now and you just admitted to it right there just because if you are a woman you go straight to a pedestal you understand at least that much i hope
2 likesGreat, taxpayers get to keep a murderer alive for 40 years.
1 likeAm I really the only one who is shocked & disgusted at ONLY 40 years?...that is NOT justice. Justice is having his life taken from him in the same manner that he ruthlessly took his victim. Our “justice system” is more broken than the victim’s neck!
10 likesThanks for the update!
0 likes@thamarindo unu what the fuck?
0 likesGood to hear
0 likesOnly 40? Damn
0 likesWho put the Redditor incels in these responses
2 likes👏🏽
0 likesI was hoping to find a follow up video to answer this question but i guess this will suffice
0 likes@MsCherloke 40 years is too much you sadist
0 likesOnly 40 years 🙄🤬🤬
0 likesThat's crazy he got 40 years for killing her and burning her body and dumping the remains in a pond. WTF.
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0 likesWait in 2021 he got sentenced for it
0 likes@autumn h It’s just how the justice system works in the US
0 likesHe's going in circles. Suspect isn't intelligent-enough.
0 likesDetective, male, was very smooth.
She’s new to interrogation 😂
1 likeHe’ll get to wear a chef coat again in prison…
1 likeSomeone should tell "KILLER" he can cook in prison ...so CA he's worried about his chef coat!!
0 likesA girl lost her life because he didn’t want to lose his job or get caught cheating. Chilling. He could have found another job. Her life taken over a job. Just crazy and cold.
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What did he even think would happen, like if he'd lose his job over dating her, it's not like kidnapping and killing her would prevent that. Is their boss gonna be like, "Ah, Savannah's gone, how weird. Lee, I bet you weren't dating her, you're promoted!"
35 likesMust've had good benefits, I'd massacre a kindergarten class for a health insurance plan that covered my prescriptions.
4 likesI highly doubt he was afraid of being caught cheating, since his coworkers have described him as a very promiscuous guy who is very successful with ladies.
4 likesThe girl he was dating knew it for sure, she just stayed with him regardless.
He must have gotten his ego hurt real bad, Savannah likely struck a nerve, or something.
Hey, at least that'll be the last time she tries blackmailing someone!
3 likes@Dan Richter very insensitive of you
18 likes@R thats a bit extreme. what a weird fucking thing to say
3 likesR hahahahah
0 likes@King Kylie
0 likesYep, but he's not wrong
So that's what it was about? I didn't get it. I was thinking some sort of blackmail.
0 likes@helBob
0 likesNo, you can be insured through other means and if you dont like the one your work place offer than you can chose your own from other providers. And if You're on unemployment than you get government insurance if I'm not mistaken. I've never been on unemployment so I dont know the details as far as that goes.
Bring back the death penalty for real.
1 likePerhaps it is the only way to make ''not being murdered by the state'' a more important priority than ''girlfriend drama''
idk
I am in no way defending a murderer but in this country we're a job is the difference between pretty much life and death I can see why people murder each other over jobs. Maybe if we had a more just and equitable society things like this wouldn't happen
0 likesGonken88 oof
0 likes@R prescription coverage hits different 🥵
0 likesDEMONIC
0 likeswhen he's breaking down i feel like a cowboy shooting at his feet.
0 likes"DANCE, LITTLE MAN, DANCE"
I shall add this to the list of numerous reasons to NOT commit murder!
0 likes“What happened to your neck?”
0 likes“Wait that’s illegal…”
For those that want to see the full confession video.
0 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&ab_channel=CrazyCrimesz
This series should be called “what happens when you walk into a interrogation room without a lawyer”
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😂👌🏼
5 likesHahahaha
2 likesTimestamp ?
2 likesWhat do you mean timestamp, it's the whole video from beginning to the end haha, in my case if interrogation last more than 15min I would ask for lawyer no matter what, I would stop talking without lawyer, I mean talk to the police can't last 2 hours unless they think you are guilty. I've been in situation and talk with police, but only as witness, and that lasted about 8 minutes, but inspector was still very suspicious and looking cautiously at me. Well I was with prosecution for more than hour she as just typing what I was sayng and asking me questions, but not police inspector for that long, if police inspector is asking too many questions you must know you are in trouble.
31 likes@Samir Dončić that's a great story. You know what it reminds me of? How long have you known Savannah 👻
27 likes@Samir Dončić Thank god you aren't a killer. We need dumb guilty people and smart innocent people.
12 likes@Daman453 Lmao
0 likesHahah that’s good
0 likesHe should post a 30 second interrogation where the suspect immediately asks for a lawyer.
13 likes"And that was the end of the interrogation."
@Trevor PB No shit, that's what happens. Ive seen some where as soon as the suspects like "...I think i need a lawyer." the cops are like "Noooo! You dont need a lawyer!" then they say "Yeah, i definitely need a lawyer." and the cops just throw everything in the air and yell "GODFUCKINGDAMNIT!"
5 likeslife is so stress free when u don't kill people.
2 likesHow long did it really take to break him?
0 likesI worked in a kitchen years ago. There’s 2 type of people there. People who are making extra cash or are young, and people with issues. This isn’t far off. Also, I RARELY eat out
0 likesThat female cop was awful. I had to turn my volume down because of her. She went from 0 to 10 way too fast and it was just jarring. I'm assuming she wasn't a good theater student.
0 likes90 minutes in a room, alone with nothing to do, on Adderall. Yikes.
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A fate worse than death
800 likesHaha id be organizing and doing push-ups
603 likesever take an AP test?
382 likesI know right my thoughts exactly.
48 likes@Carson Grino ffs at least you'd have something to focus on.
190 likesAlso, the guilt from the murdering.
376 likesHave to resort to counting carpet fibers
390 likesIn that time id have found every paperclip in the floor and made a lock pick or prison shank
125 likesyaa63 Nah, as someone who takes it daily as a prescription, his endless ramblings and speeches and stories that go on for minutes is definitely induced by Adderall. One time I accidentally took twice my daily dosage and I ended up having a 30 minute conversation with my friend that consisted of literally only me talking lol
235 likesGod it was hell when I was arrested for weed..a few hours in the drunk tank..on adderall..first ever ever time in jail..that was hell..i can't imagine for murder
45 likes@Kuhneegit ...wow...had no clue...
4 likes@BEEPGAMEOVER as someone who takes vyvanse (very similar to adderall) for my adhd, i perform significantly worse on days i forget my dose. on days i do take my dose life is much better. it's not just simply "can't focus disorder", it affects your mood and executive functions. i feel more "zooked" when i miss my dose. just thought i should point that out for you or anyone reading
169 likes@Kuhneegit my sister is infamous for doing the same thing! She will get on a tweak and talk so long I will set the phone down sometimes while she's talking and go do something and come back and she will still be talking. It's amazing, really. Love that woman...
50 likes@Mrdestiny17 This is the most accurate statement I have heard
4 likesBEEPGAMEOVER That isn’t how it works. I dislike it as well, but it doesn’t just “make you focus”, it allows you to actually organize your thoughts. When I’m not on it I’m an anxiety-filled mess that sleeps 15 hours a day and gets overwhelmed by the slightest bit of pressure. When I’m on it, it eases everything up and allows me to sort out my mind and figure out how to deal with things better. I don’t get high off of it, hell I only take 10mg a day, which I’ve forced the doctors to give me even though they wanted to give me 25mg. They prescribe it because it works. If you’ve never taken it before, I really don’t recommend trying to take a stance on whether or not it should be prescribed to people.
90 likesLady Jay Mac My family always knows when my dose kicks in because I just creep out of my room into my living room and have a random ass conversation with my parents for 25 minutes straight
34 likes@BEEPGAMEOVER Adderall is not meth so stop calling it that
71 likesnoooo shit. that'd be rough as all hell.
3 likesNo wonder he cracked so quickly
5 likesI would have left
5 likesThe term "Yikes" immediately makes me think of reddit, which causes an instant logical deduction to your homosexuality.
17 likesEspecially coming down off that shit during that whole interrogation? Jeeeeeeesus he felt all that shit all at once soon as the detectives left him alone
12 likesI. Wynn Wynn You are Bugggggin! I did 90 days in HCDC in Maryland and only 10 again at same place another time. The booking process for the 90 days I was going through Xanax, opiate withdrawal and was in absolute hell didn’t even care about my charges just how I felt like shit. Now second time when they was petty put me in for 10 i was 100% sober besides some weed and it was a fucking breeze waiting them 90 minutes sometimes more
7 likes@Lady Jay Mac uhm....my mom does the same but I'm not on Adderall . Never have been . Is this kind of alarming?
2 likes@Kuhneegit yep that's literally me. Without the Adderall.
3 likes@Lady Jay Mac that's my son's Dad. If he calls I listen for the first 3 minutes to get the important information then set the phone down for 20. Our son is 17 now so it's not like he needs to communicate that much to me. He just never shuts the f up 😂.
2 likes😂😂😂
1 likeBest fucking comment ever.
1 likeAs a sped kid on adderall I can confirm that is worse than death
3 likes@ashton h the wonderful world of functioning meth addiction
1 like@Mrdestiny17 i've never taken aderall because i'm too young, is that really what it does to you?!?!
0 likesBEEPGAMEOVER were your parents also siblings? Water is one molecule away from being hydrogen peroxide, doesn’t mean it’s fuckin safe to drink. You don’t get to define another persons struggle with mental illness, and you definitely don’t get to fuckin tell somebody that they shouldn’t be taking a medication that helps them. I’m sorry if you can’t imagine what it’s like to be non-neurotypical, but your lack of empathy combined with something you saw on Fox doesn’t make you a medical expert.
36 likesLmfao. Couldn’t imagine anything more horrifying.
1 like@Rosie Cheeks that's how you know you don't need them is when they make you go more a strange but if they even you out that's how you know you do need. It's been hard to see if I needed them are not but nevertheless I had energy to do stuff but he is but my focus attention has done a u-turn on me because of something tragic and if something works by you great but if it doesn't don't worry they'll come out with a pill for something eventually! My fairy doll with don't make fun of it until you live in that same Glass House as the people that suffer from certain things we don't ask for this shit trust me I didn't know anything about shit Ned's until late late late in my life all I knew it was posed back and regular over-the-counter meds didn't know nothing about opiates and shit like that but now that I've studied it since I have a bunch of kids and I want to learn about stuff and why kids act the way they do what you can do to help them what you can't do because it's beyond even your own ability as parent so yes people do look find the pot to pills personally I wish pot works better than what I feel like it does I see it has a little bit of a psychedelic effect to it but it doesn't take away every goddamn thing that's wrong with me so I kind of pissed me off when people say to me at work for them I don't know I get the munchies for junk food and a couple of okay other things in my life but it's no magic cure 100% from a .. but nothing I would not rely on every day marijuana to make my day better....
1 likeI wish it work for all the THINGS..
even like IBS!
For us with ADHD it would make the situation somewhat bearable :P without would be a crisis. I’m pretty sure I would almost die of boredom.
15 likesBut I have heard in America a lot of people take adderall without the ADHD diagnosis and I guess that’s a completely different experience.
6 likesThis reminds me when I was in high-school and tried coke for the 1st time and came home and had to pretend to be asleep the whole time 🙃
12 likesLol
3 likesImagine 90 minutes of sitting in a hospital waiting room, with nothing to do, on LSD. Because I can. I've been there. Shit sucks.
6 likesSeamurf now theres a defence
1 likeAdd to that the fact that he knows he just killed someone. Pure hell.
4 likesAt least it wasn’t cocaine 😳
4 likesThat happened to me during my divorce but my Adderall was prescribed.
1 like@Biscuit Gidoni that is the worst situation in the funniest way
1 likemy brain is always like that lol except when i take xans
1 like@Biscuit Gidoni lol that must have been terrible
0 likesAnd freaking out...fun fun
1 like@BEEPGAMEOVER its great that you dont need it, but if you did need it then you would understand. Plus for a lot of people who need it, it does not make them zonked, it makes them perform like normal
14 likesYeah that's basically a 20 year sentence in solitary right there.
0 likesMrdestiny17 🤣🤣
0 likesBEEPGAMEOVER it is called the stimulant paradox
1 like@ashton h Sooooo tired of defending the medical necessity of my adderall prescription. If you don't have the medical issues that necessitate the need to be prescribed the medication, then you'll NEVER understand how it FEELS to have the condition. And it DOES AFFECT EVERY SINGLE AREA OF YOUR LIFE!!!!! Anyone else who's reading this that has. ADHD or ADD will understand what I'm saying. God I wish I could be "normal" but it is a genetic disorder passed down from generations in my family. OCD, anxiety, depression, addictive personality...co-dependancy. So yeah I have ADD and I take adderall. If you only knew how I felt before I was diagnosed you wouldn't take it so lightly. It's not a recreational drug to me.
19 likes@Lady Jay Mac My best friend does that too. Funny thing is she doesn't take adderall. I do. I'm the one with ADD.
0 likes@Rosie Cheeks Thank you!!!❤
0 likes@Kuhneegit Amen. I take it too. It helps me immensely. Wasn't diagnosed til I was 36. Once I began taking it I realized I really needed help way back when I was a pre-teen.
8 likes@Mr. Avocado Man Thank you!!
0 likes@J G You want a cookie?
1 like@Lee JG Anderson WoW
0 likes@Biscuit Gidoni lol
0 likes@James Wisniewski scary shit
0 likes@frabra88 that in and of itself is enough
0 likes@Haley Doe Adderall isn't a miracle drug. It can't cure everything. You probably needed a script for Zoloft. ❤
0 likes@Elias Menyhart Zoloft is helpful
0 likes@C Y Thank you!!
0 likes@Spicy Legato That would happen if you DIDN'T take your adderall but was supposed to. You got it backwards.
2 likes@R C Then you obviously don't need to take it.
2 likesHectic 😬
0 likesI'd rather do nothing in a room on adderall than do nothing in a room sober. I'm prescribed adderall btw
1 likeIt should actually make you more focused and patient.
3 likesSafe to say everyone commenting had Addy experience....😛
2 likes@ashton h This is true, My Sister takes it. I asked my doctor about it, he said it works differently for people who actually need it, it balances them.
3 likesThey'd have me on indecent exposure due to furious masturbation in a closed room as well as murder.
3 likes@Rlnstn Is posting 18 times in a row on one comment thread a side effect of Adderall too?
4 likesAt least it wasn't Marijuana, the devils lettuce.
2 likesseemurf Wow you are so cool and edgy bro, like totally like.
0 likesisaac wow you are so edgy bro, aderall is for kings like totally like
0 likesHe was like please take me I need the sleep of the just. Lol. Shadows galore.
0 likesdustin bowling because you are so awesome and superior ? Mr. Aderall bad ass
0 likesLol and the US private health system. I’m not making an argument for nationalised V private, but you sure as hell have a lot of sketchy “conditions” which require hard drugs like Oxy and Meth for. In U.K., these are harder to get prescribed than finding the ark of the covenant. In the US - “yes sir! Have some drugs sir! Slight pain? Have a synthetic opioid! Did you feel sad for 10 mins? Have some Xanax!”
2 likesI had a hernia operation which was painful for a week and I got a couple of codeine and paracetamol and ibuprofen. That’s it.
Most of your “conditions” which “need” adderral or benzos are just the shit people have to deal with that a doctor has convinced you is a disorder.
Just FYI I checked and the U.K. rate of ADHD in adults is 2%. It’s 4.4% in the USA. I wonder why? Couldn’t be anything to do with the profit motive could it?
2 likesOof.... I would have had that toilet paper box memorized....
0 likesI wouldn't know lol I've never done anything harder than weed
0 likesMy thoughts exactly..lol
1 likeHe was probably happy when the door finally opened.
0 likesI used to be on 40mg at my lowest depressions, but even on 20mg I know I would be bonking my head on the table just to get any form of stimulation lmao.
2 likesBEEPGAMEOVER I take adderall for chronic fatigue due to major depressive disorder. If I don’t take my dose, I literally cannot find the motivation to move or focus on anything. Before I got on it, I would spend hours laying in bed and staring at the wall, constantly tired, just waiting to die. I’m so much more energetic, motivated, and happy now that I’m on it; I’m eternally grateful for my LeGaL mEtH.
9 likesMy thoughts exactly , damn ninety-one minutes .
1 likeChikin Loaf Good work figuring out your chemicals. As my very own father used to say, “Life is a process of figuring out those chemicals that work for you and learning how to use them.” I appreciate your balanced stance.
0 likesAnd all you want is a damn cigarette
3 likesIt would only help me concentrate but others would be looking for some shyt to clean lol
1 like@nessaboomommy09 lol I'm dead💀
1 like@アリス。 Adderall basically makes neurotypical people very hyped up and excited as it is a stimulant. People with ADD suffer from a lack of stimulation so Adderall helps them feel stimulated.
6 likes@aether my beloved oh interesting thanks !
0 likeskrissy Missy 😂😂
1 like@nessaboomommy09 Right?
0 likesLol fuck that be terrible
1 likeHe falls asleep because he's guilty and he knows it's over.
0 likesWhat does adderall do?
0 likesFreaking nightmare 😳🥺🥴
1 like@paxsmile Look in the comments I said what it does.
1 likeisaac Hahahaha I’m crying 😂
0 likesI think he said that to make a lane for himself if they say he is nervous
0 likes@Kuhneegit me too, and i didn't breathe the whole time lol
0 likesAnd drank a gallon of water!!!!
And didn't eat for days .
And it's my script too .
His cotton mouth was so bad in this video , 5 minutes and he has 3 bottles of water.
I have been in jail cells with 4 other guys on meth while me and another guy who weren't. Imagine that torture!!!
0 likesIt doesn’t do anything for me. I have it forma sleepingdisorder. It fails when my sleepattack is bad, I sleep right through it. I can’t understand what it does that makes someone abuse it. I mean I knowing from my job as a pharmacy technician (which due to my disorder I can’t do anymore) but I can’t feel it if you know what I mean. I’ve had oxycodone and that one I could understand. I’m always surprised someone would misuse it for say a study or a party or whatever.
0 likesChikin Loaf you sleep a terrible lot off it too? Finally someone who experiences that too, not that I wish it on anyone but I am always disbelieved when I have to explain it’s really necessary for me to function. One doc even took me off it without any contact with the sleepspecialist, but after consulting another doctor totally out of the field.
0 likesAt that point to keep some rhythm zoals took Ambien. And because of the latter they discontinued the Adderall. They never listened to the fact that I had my sleepingshit waaaaaaay before I ever had medication of any sorts. No it was all because the Ambien.
I’m also bipolar 2 and one time I was hospitalized for something unrelated and the first thing they wanted to do? Take me off the adderall as my then hypomanic episode was obviously due to the Adderall. It was not, I’ve taken it without being hypomanic. The psychiatrist then called my therapist to basically check if my story even checked out and if that sleepingdisorder was real.
Yeah no I managed to fake my sleeptests, all of them just so I could party my head off. I hate this constant doubt, the constant disbelief, the constant “hypomanic? You have to stop the Adderall because that’s why”.
Pffffrt.
EGstill85 I don’t think you should double up your dose if you forgot to take it tbh... I hope you won’t ever do that with other meds like say even acetaminophen if you’d have to take it 4 times a day.
1 likeRlnstn Zoloft isn’t a miracle drug either, there’s plenty more options. If you’re gonna say Adderall isn’t a miracle drug, then don’t name one specific other one as if that one is.
0 likesrafer Jefferson iii aww you sound upset.
1 likeTrust me, the issues I have been prescribed my meds for outside the US are no joke. Wanna trade with that “that’s just life”-shit if you have no idea what the hell you are actually talking about?
He couldve cleaned the room at least
0 likesWhen you have to pee
0 likesChikin Loaf I felt that lol
0 likes@Some Guy People like him almost never feel guilt
0 likesWait he was on adderal????
0 likes@Kuhneegit my boyfriend doesnt need adderall to do that lol. but that's okay I'm more of a listener anyway
0 likesI understand this is not exactly the proper form when a Young Lady has been Horribly Murdered . However I’m 50 about to be 51 some of the younger people here is a FYI for anyone that cares.... 2016 I was hospitalized to do mental and physical exhaustion!! Not the mental ward !! Intensive care . Quite frankly I was hallucinating did not recognize anyone except my 2 adult kids... once discharged form the hospital. I had no choice but to immediately go back to work I needed the insurance to continue getting medical treatment!!! Last 4 years I’ve seen every specialist under the sun . Spent an enormous amount of money from copays and some Dr.s did not accept any insurance so completely out of pocket ... now this has been like my 4th sleep study coming up this October..... I’m currently talking armodifinal ( think I spelled that right ?) anyway it does NOT get me high !! It does NOT give me lots of energy !! Best yet NO Nervousness or Heart Rate increase .... Simply gives me just a basic push to think clearer and most days get my 8 hour shift of work done . Some weeks I can not pull off a 40 hour work week .... even with the medication!!! I have been diagnosed with narcolepsy, sleep Apena , and circadian rhythm is messed up from working night shift my entire life !! Although truth be known on bad days when I take it .... I can go right back to sleep ( like it doesn’t work at all ) good days I get through my work shift!!! Nothing else to give !!! At this point I do believe I’m going to be forced go on disability... I really do not want that !!! Although I want to live a decent life ..... since 2016 I don’t have a very good quality of life !!! No energy to go to fun things with friends, family . All I got is enough to take my medication and do my best to go to work everyday.... The medication does help. Although instead of working eight hours a day. I think I should take that medication and focus on trying to go to the gym and take better care of myself. Because after working 40 hours a week I have nothing left. Best wishes to all please don’t do drugs are not prescribed. There’s a lot more to this. Obviously it’s long enough already. But I feel like a criminal in order to get this medication I have to be piss tested every month just so the insurance company will pay for the medication it is extremely expensive $29.73 a pill . I did not fail a piss test in the hospital 2016 and I have not failed a piss test since!!! I don’t do drugs .... I have a federal Job I never wanted to jeopardize. Best of luck y’all hope you learn from an old lady💕
0 likes@Rosie Cheeks Correct, if you need adderall it will calm you down.
2 likesAnd fearing for your life
1 likeNot that bad, actually. 90 minutes in a room, alone with nothing to do, on Adderall, about to be arrested for murder? Big yikes.
0 likesWhat is an Adderall? I’m from UK lol
1 like@Dat Blue-Eyed Devil it's a mix of amphetamines used to treat adhd. It will calm you down if you need it, speed you up if you dont.
2 likes@BEEPGAMEOVER
1 likeDude seriously. That is such a powerful stimulant. That's not healthy. Also they give it to kids too which is nuts
🤣 🤣
0 likes@E mor Craziest part is that they run a test or two, ask some questions, and then prescribe it. I get that some of the people @ing me in this convo felt some type of way about my previous statement, but it's really not out of line. For hundreds of thousands of years humans have had to run around, hunt, scavenge, etc. There were always tasks to be done. The past couple of centuries. especially in our era, we have had to do less and less. Our mind wanders, we aren't used to sitting around in classrooms, or sit inside and play video games all day. Sure a lot of us can adapt fairly well and get by, but that doesn't mean we should drug the ones who struggle to do things we have barely had to time evolve to do. This is coming from someone who has many of the same symptoms as others have described, I have a brother who took Vyvanse for over a decade, and I've been around plenty of people who use it both because they "need" it and those who don't. And just like other amphetamines, there becomes a dependency, so of course all of you telling me you take it to feel normal and feel sick or anxious when you don't take it feel that way lmao. There are definitely those who "need" it more than others, but it is factually overprescribed and there are many people who definitely do not need it that take it. The first thing that should be recommended before taking pills is plenty of exercise, runs, sports, swimming, etc, and a change of diet. If none of that works, and you desperately need drugs to complete the tasks that society has convinced you to do, then go for it. Still think it shouldn't be prescribed to kids with developing brains, unless it is an extreme situation.
1 like@Chikin Loaf @Meth Mommy @Rosie Cheeks @Mr Avocado Man @C Y @ashton h Please read above. Again I'm not attacking you I'm moreso pointing out flaws in the system. There are good doctors, and there are lazy doctors. Prescribing these drugs in a lot of cases is the lazy way out. I'm always going to cater towards my kids, I'm not going to drug them because they don't sit well in class or the teacher feels they can't focus. If they grow up and choose to take it, once they are of an age where they say "Hey, I really am having issues that are affecting the quality of my life, we have tried this and that and it still isn't working" then so be it. I'm not giving it to a bloody 8 year old.
0 likes@jan You're username is "Meth Mommy" and you're going to ask me if my parents were siblings...? That's rich. I don't know if you're trolling me or not lmao
1 likeCarson Grino
0 likesAn AP test isn’t shit compared to tests like the MCAT, Putnam, LSAT, etc.
BEEPGAMEOVER for people that have ADHD, such as myself, when you don’t take your meds is when you’re “zooked” as you put it. When you take your meds you should feel calm, and able to think clearly, which allows you to do your daily tasks. For people who do not have adhd, and they take stimulants, it absolutely will crack them out and give them that Meth sort of feeling. I could take mine, and still go back to sleep, because my mind isn’t going 1000 miles an hour. Friends that have taken it for fun? Pfft they don’t stop moving, and talking. I’ll never understand why someone would want to take it for fun, I’d love to not ever have to take it and just function like a “normal” person.
2 likesA man was locked in a room for 90 minutes while on Adderall, this is what happened to his brain...
1 likei'd end up knocking on the door asking if there was any work i could do in the mean time. 😂😂
0 likesThat explains the lengthy answer to “how do you know her?”
0 likesAdderall? Hmm.. I bet it was meth
0 likesAt least you’d be really happy
0 likesAdderall isnt meth, just as mdma isnt meth, despite the ma in mdma standing for methamphetamine. An extra bond or two makes a huge difference in chemistry. Methamphetamine is neutotoxic while amphetamine is not. I take Adderall with a prescription because it helps me be productive. Im also narcoleptic so it keeps me from sleeping excessively all day so i can get stuff done and organize my thoughts better. Reading these other comments of people taking it makes me realize my experience with it isnt unique and it is helpful in similar ways to lots of people. The whole meth myth is confounding to me because nobody yells at depressed people taking sri's 'oh youre just taking prescription ecstasy fucking junkies' because it helps them manage in their day to day lives. Adderall doesnt get me high, i dont feel the need to clean, do something constantly etc. It does make me a little more chatty though which is also good i was always a shy and kinda awkward teenager. Anyways my point being, why stigmatize something that helps many people be more functional members of society with no harm to you if you dont need it?
5 likesPure torture
0 likesAngelic Gutz 8:16 or so
0 likesLmaooo
1 likeLoL
1 like😆😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this comment is then best. I laughed so hard. Thank you
1 like🤣 the Yikes has me 🤪
1 likeLol. He shoots, he scores!⛹️♀️
1 likeLOOOOOL FRRRR YO
0 likesBroke the nuclear codes
0 likesHe could have built a house in that time.
0 likes**after murdering someone and knowing you might be nailed for jt
0 likesMy friends say I talk to much too when I'm on speed
0 likesLol literally my first thought
0 likesLike a bad dream that just keeps going and going and going
0 likesI’m surprised he just sat there with all that
0 likesME RIGHT NOW
0 likesIf you are actually ADD, Adderall is calming. If not ADD, its a stimulant. Adderall user for 20-years.
1 like@Kuhneegit Were you tested for ADD or did a GP just hand you a scrip from your self-reported symptoms?
1 like@アリス。 No, not if you are really ADD. If you are ADD it brings you down from the ceiling.
0 likes@BEEPGAMEOVER You are absolutely right about the exercise and diet aspect !!
0 likes@isaac i can tell by your comment that you've never died.
0 likesbro right
0 likes@BEEPGAMEOVER because you’re not a doctor and have zero medical knowledge to understand a mental illness like ADHD. I have ADD and take Ritalin, people call it kiddie coke and act like I do drugs. That’s awful!
2 likesBahahhahahhjHah!!!!
0 likes@beepgameover you should do some research and learn things before passing all this judgment
1 likeThank you, Mr. Adderall.
0 likesNo way he hasn't been banging out speedballs everyday since high school. Lol "it's the first time I've had Adderall since like hs"
0 likes@Carson Grino bruh ..not the same💀
0 likesWithout looking. Maybe 25 multi paragraph responses (also edited) by prescribed users of Adderall saying that somehow this comment is attacking them for their use case. Lol.
0 likesActually in that moment..you wish time would freeze
0 likesI’ve experienced it plenty
0 likesWhile facing the gravity of what has happened. I cant even imagine what that'd be like. At about 30 min in, he would probably confess to another murder just to get a xanax or two.
0 likes@BEEPGAMEOVER "zooked" isnt a good term for those who use it to control adhd. Binge eaters with a prescription can feel totally stimulated for a long time though.
0 likesI have ADHD, my mind would be empty and I'd be so bored
0 likes@BrainScramblies it always blows my mind how people assume that anyone with adhd who is prescribed medication (be it adderall, concerta or whatever) exists in a state of drug-induced high constantly. it's the other way around, if i am not on meds i will talk anyone's ears off, bounce around and be a complete disorganized mess. my meds prescription allowed me to be able to sit for more than 30 minutes at a time and for my emotions to chill the fuck out instead of throwing me into emotional dysregulation of hell everytime something went wrong. i actually arrive on time to appointments and rarely forget my personal belongings all over the place. the reason why our brains react like this to stimulants it's because they are biologically and chemically different and i wish people would just educate themselves :')
0 likesI'd be reading the ingredients on the water bottle
1 like@Me Me drunk tank ?
0 likes@Fatts a room in a jail that's just a bed that's connected to the floor. No TV (a lot of jails have those) and a door with a tiny slot. Usually where they put duis for overnight stay or do their booking
0 likesLmao
0 likesi'm not saying this guy, but in general I feel like i would give long answers bc im always so anxious but not guilty ya know? like its the same way when i go through checkout like "what if they caught me" when i didnt do anything wrong.
0 likesIt should be against police rules to wear a bowtie during interrogation
0 likesVice versa…. If I was innocent, 90mins?! I would be knocking on the door/ talking to the obvious cams at 20 mins!
0 likesGod this is so good.
0 likesHow long did you know Savannah?
4783 likesLee: Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar, master of all four elements, could stop them..
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But when the world needed him most, he vanished.
148 likesA hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Avatar, an airbender named Aang, and although his airbending skills are great, he still has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone.
109 likesThe world has changed.
64 likesI see it in the water.
I feel it in the Earth.
I smell it in the air.
Much that once was is lost,
For none now live who remember it.
Best comment on here. Thank you for distracting me for a moment from the heaviness of this video
53 likesI spit out my horchata reading this
17 likes@Adoltina Muremi
22 likesBut i believe… Aang can save the world
intro plays
So weird, I'm watching Avatar... the interwebs is a strange place.
8 likesbest show ever
9 likesThis female detective is to emotional for interrogations 😂
3 likesBeautiful
2 likesYeah early 2000 life I miss it
2 likes@Emmylie 0
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1 likeI laughed way, way too hard when I read this
2 likesYou faking legend...
1 likeCringe.
1 like@Lawenda yes but actually no
1 likeI’m CRYIIIIIIINGGGGG
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1 likeTime for me to rewatch both series now!
1 likethis was gold
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1 likeI screamed 🤣🤣🤣
1 likeSince you’re here and commenting this- I wanna be friends
0 likesSo happy these back!!!
1 like7.26 he was watching that door swing just like a jail door banging shut.
1 likeThat last bit of him crying is so satisfying
0 likesSeems the cops are begging for him to confess....doesnt seem like a good ploy.....
0 likes“Innocent subjects give straight short answers”
2600 likesHim: proceeds to talk for 5 minutes giving details about how his mom was addicted to meth when he was younger.
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He sounds like he know what the fuck he's talking about, But he doesn't
10 likesProbably read some blogs here and there to use his decent voice to get that yt cash.
@Joacim Hjalmarsson no need to get so heated about it. It's just a funny comment about the video
35 likesyeah you know, I disagree with the narrator here, the detective already said he knew Lee knew Savanna from work and they had dated, and wanted to be filled in on the details, so Lee giving a more detailed reply seems perfectly normal to me. I see no reason why an innocent man wouldn't have done the same
32 likes@Steven Craeynest you stole words from my mouth
5 likesGuys chill it’s not about every question and method to every question it’s about the red line that achieves the result you need to finish the case. He talks about his mother because it shifts the focus not on him and it creates a relief for the brain that’s one of the key point we usually look for and not “oh short answer omg truth gg”
7 likesyou have to give credit though. it was thorough (minus the part about murdering her...)
0 likes★ Also, wanted to post this up here, you can watch the entire interview / confession if you search: The wholeCrazy Crimesz YouTube channel “Lee Rodarte Full Confession to Co-workers Murder”
(saw this referenced by @QueenE Jj in a comment below)
@Steven Craeynest not 5 minutes constantly
3 likes@Joacim Hjalmarsson you think he makes videos for profit? You know what, you may be right. I also long suspected mcdonalds makes burgers for profit as well. What kind of world do we live in? Sad.
6 likesIt didn't help that he had just taken adderall earlier that day lol
2 likes@Joacim Hjalmarsson well if not for cash, why is he here? and besides, it isnt like hes giving us shit content for money, its actually entertaining and somewhat educational.
1 likeBut he wasn’t innocent right? idk i haven’t finished the video yet 😂😂
0 likesHe said that people with long answers are more likely to be guilty. He didn’t say it was guaranteed
0 likesI was so confused 😭 how he got that deep in the conversation
0 likes@Saskiah Brown Cuz his life is flashing before his eyes. He's thinking like that.
0 likes@wiggle I haven't come across any of these interrogations where the person was innocent 🤷♀️🤷♀️😂😂 not yet anyway...
0 likes@The Besties true
1 like@The Besties yeah true
1 likeThis part cracked me up.
0 likes@Zibba TV I definitely agree with this.
0 likes@Ohyea itsmebabi you're not supposed to put a space before ellipses. Finish school before you get salty in comments
0 likes@Ohyea itsmebabi grammar* YouTube* class,* difference...*
0 likesI don't wanna argue with someone who's obviously under 18. So, enjoy school and try hard
@Ohyea itsmebabi thanks for the good luck. I don't really care if it's sarcastic or not. I'm not gonna meet with a minor as I'm not edp445 lmao.
0 likesI feel like the female detective kinda ruined the investigation. The other detective was on a roll. She brought too many feelings into it.
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that was absolutely the plan
0 likesThe way he talks to himself like Golem at the end
0 likesMy thoughts on why he did it is, he’s probably the type of dude to sleep with the employees, be overly flirtatious with customers. He rubs girls the wrong way (no pun intended) and made them resentful towards him as well. And as he said, she was going to the higher ups about him for having relationships with the girls working with him. I believe that was actually true. He saw this as a threat to his whole identity. He doesn’t strike me as the type of guy who’s a real chef. I’m a real chef. I went to culinary school in Japan so in this case, “it takes one to know one” and I’m not seeing a chef, lol. I see a guy who was given that title, used it to get women, abused his power at work, met a girl who wasn’t going to stand for him dogging her, was going to report him, he didn’t want to lose his job because there goes the, “I’m a chef” persona that most likely was how he got women and his income so he killed her for that reason. I never understood why anyone would want to complicate their work environment like that though. This guy is a cold blooded, narcissistic idiot who thought he was a lady’s man who took the life of an innocent girl… I don’t knew why I’m so fascinated with true crime now but I really wish I was somehow able to save these people…
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@ItzJustEllie You think he’s being remorseful? Lol. You really don’t see what’s really going on so you? Lol. First off, no one talks to themselves like that in great detail like that as if they’re on some sort of cheesy sitcom. The guy knew he was being recorded. He knew. That was all an act to make it appear as if it was an accident. If you take things at face value so easily, I’m glad you’re not a cop. Killers would be roaming free. That guy went there with the intent to kill. Plain and simple. Pay attention to the words he uses and the way he’s talking. No offense but you really shouldn’t allow yourself to be that naive. Because what that guy was trying to do with the police who he knew were watching his act, that act worked on you. But not on the police.
0 likesWhere are his violent tendencies? While feeling sorry for himself, he should at least have broken a chair or 2. Either that or the murder was planned and not on impulse. Was this an ego trip? "She could ruin me" type of deal?
0 likesHes not sorry he killed her, he's sorry he got caught
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He's probably imposed a feeling of guilt on himself as a coping mechanism; he may very well be sorry for the murder, but only out of a reaction to its consequences
68 likesFor once I feel like he's sorry he killed her. He doesn't deserve less jail time or a nicer sentence but I feel better knowing that at least sometimes, criminals feel repent for their actions, even if it never brings the victim back
61 likesMy immediate thoughts as well.
6 likesyou can see him experience the gravity of his situation. Any happiness he has known will no longer exist. He had squandered the life he was given, and seeing it go makes him fall apart.
16 likesFear of getting caught and then the consequences are probably the only things that discourage sociopaths.
8 likesHow would you know?
6 likesIt might be comforting for some to think he's not sorry for killing her. If you're honest with yourself, you'll admit you don't really know.
18 likesAs most killers are
0 likes@Ocean Swimmer stole your comment bruh
0 likesExactly. Any remorse he expresses for his actions towards Savannah are in direct relation to the consequences he is about to face. He apologizes to her, but then expresses how he was "going somewhere" and constantly remarks on how stupid he was. When he expresses how nice she was to him, he rebukes with a sharp claim about how she was a bitch. He's not sorry for her. He's sorry that he reacted in a way that is ruining his life. The tears are for himself and his lost future, not for the loss of a life he took.
12 likesSometimes seeing the gravity of the situation only occurs when someone has confronted him with it. A person is a echo-chamber and if the correct view doesn't occur by itself someone needs to shout it to him. So, true, he is sorry that he got caught (sorry for his life now being ruined), but also true that he is actually remorseful of killing her now that he sees the gravity of it and hopefully the importance of her life (his internal monologue seem to confirm this). At least that's my perspective.
0 likesHe's definitely sorry he killed her. You can tell by the things he said and the way he said them afterwards
2 likes37:01 37:54 38:23
0 likesSlimeOutTimeOut if he was sorry he wouldn’t have pled not guilty and claimed he killed her in self defense
0 likesYou can find this comment in pretty much every jcs video
0 likesIIAc3sII I’m not sure how him killing someone in cold blood makes that ok, and if that makes me an idiot so be it
0 likesIf she didn't kick her partner to shut up at 29:50 then I was going to jump through my computer and do it for her.. She had him ready to spill his guts and he interupted
0 likesI thought Lee was gonna start his story with the universe's big bang and end at at least the Y2K bug.
0 likesHoly shit his first response was so long I forgot the question.
0 likesHe had the RIGHT to remain silent...what he lacked was the ability.
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Or the capacity
37 likesThat's right Ron White
3 likesThey Call me Tater Salad
5 likesI don't know why any of these self-imagined criminal masterminds think that by blabbing endlessly they are doing anything helpful for themselves under interrogation. Once you're arrested or under suspicion you should never say anything to police without a lawyer if you have any intent of not accepting a plea bargain.
18 likes@iceink They've always been able to get themselves out of rough situations; Talk out of anything. they legitimately believe they'll simply be released if they just lie as usual.
8 likesLike Jeremy dewitte
1 likeHe was smarter than the police guys, a narchisist
0 likes@Flaviano Floris He can brag about that in jail for the next 40 years.
3 likes@Brian Davis Great comment Brian Davis. It's the arrogance of the typical bullshitter. They think they're smarter than they are.
1 likeDude screwed over his alibi over 21 minutes into the interrogation. Lol.
0 likesHey guys, the female detective approach is also a technique?
0 likesLike trying to engage emotionally maybe?
The female detective straight bodied this fool
0 likesA 105 iq crim thinks he a fool 135 iq detective. I guess there’s something to the Dunnning Kruger effect after all.
0 likesThe death penalty for anyone who takes a life deliberately.
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I believe this sentiment sets a rather high bar for sentencing. For this, you have to prove deliberation beyond the shadow of a doubt. You have, out of ignorance, created a GIANT GAPING loophole for murderers to escape their justified sentences. It is a good thing lawmakers are smarter than you.
0 likes“Probably not the best advertisement for the Bonefish Grill if their head chefs are peeling their scabs off at work.” This narrator is cutthroat lmao
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That had me dying lmao
13 likes💀💀💀
1 likeyou mean writer.
2 likesHis level of savage is enviable
4 likesI'm still laughing at that😂
1 like'I don't remember ordering dried chilli flakes in my Caesar Salad' 🤔
10 likes🤮
0 likesOMG!😆😂🤣
1 likeNewsflash! That's every restaurant ever!
0 likesLol
0 likesHis signature dish "fish 'n scabs"
2 likes“Yep, i cut myself. With a knife. Then i went back to chopping chicken.”
0 likesHe isn't regretful/sorry for murdering her, he's just regretful/sorry he got caught.
0 likesMiss you, JCS. 🥺 You birthed an entire true-crime genre. Really sucks, what YouTube is doing to you.
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what did yt do to him?
82 likes@Mystic AMV's JCS currently stands for Jim Can’t Stream (can’t take the credit for that, saw a headline) As I understand it, they took down his videos, refuse to give him a reason or even communicate with him. (You can check his Twitter, I stay away from that evil place) Buuuut…I’m wondering if he’ll be back soon, because I just checked & I think some of the deleted videos may be back. And about 2 weeks ago he uploaded a video called “The End Of JCS”…and it’s gone, along with a couple others about the end of his channel. I’m hoping JCS removed them himself cuz he’s coming back🤞🏼or it’s YT really being dicks
517 likes@Snarkastic Squid Thanks I already was wondering. I searched for this channel because I wanted to see if something new was up, and then I saw last video 8 months ago. And I knew that it was not that long ago so I was already wondering what happened to the newer ones. Really hope he gets put of this because this gus is really one of a kind in making content.
108 likes@Johan I thought I posted an update here yesterday but I don’t see it…JCS has left the building. For good, won’t be back. He’s looking for another less restrictive platform. YT was flagging & deleting his uploads for ridiculous reasons. YT’s loss anyway. There may be copycats, but they don’t do the quality of psychological analysis JCS does. He said he’d announce on his Twitter when he figures out where he’s going next. Cheers!
245 likes@Snarkastic Squid Damn. I was on a rewatch, I stumbled upon these newer comments, sorry to hear that. What about services like Nebula?
50 likesI hope he hooks up with JOE ROGAN
33 likesTwisted Minds is one of my favourites.
4 likesYeah 😞
1 likeDo you know what his twitter username is?
5 likesYo let's start a petition to get JCS a Netflix series. Cmon Sarandos, if Sandler can get all that bread for his movies, can't we break off JCS with a couple mil for a great series?
139 likes@Random Female or Roe Jogan
7 likes@Nathalie Fernandez No sorry, I don’t, I avoid that place at all costs…
8 likesAnything pro-authority will be removed by YouTube.
12 likesBecause his videos can make criminals well prepared for police interrogation or crime planning?
11 likes@ROBLOX VIDS 2 Ironic, YT is a huge authority.
6 likes@June Wang That goes for any crime documentary, so lets censor ALL of them
33 likes@Nathan Britto No, others are just storytelling, lack scientific and phycological explanation, this is actually educating.
40 likesikr
0 likesI really hope he comes back. His videos are the best truecrime on youtube. But atleast there's a silverlining to this, the fact that we got a whole new genre of truecrime to youtube because of him, JCS inspired. ❤️
16 likes@Emmi Su he actually just posted on Jim Can't Swim a few days ago, he just hasn't been uploading on JCS Criminal Psychology. It's not the same content but we can still support him and give him the views/likes/comments he deserves.
14 likes@Just Try That guy can barely speak his own language..
2 likesYoutube (Alphabet / Google) would never allow genuine educational videos that may save the innocent from being taken advantage-of by the evil, that goes against what they exist for.
12 likes@Random Female I really hope he doesn't tf.
4 likes@June Wang i get you
1 like@Random Female Why would Jim, someone that educates with his content, try to get in contact with the void of intellectual thought that Is Joe Rogan.
44 likesTo simplify what I said, why would Jim that is big smart, want to work with Joe "I am an idiot" Rogan.
@Snarkastic Squid it's because he made videos on that pos of "prince" andrew and that actor juicy smolayyy, exposing them
8 likes@Isaac Clodfelter lol you salty that Rogan has a platform and you don’t?
12 likesRumble will gladly take JCS
2 likes@spicy_kitty ofc yt is so annoyinggg
0 likes@Random Female lol i hope this is a joke
2 likes@Snarkastic Squid what are those ridiculous reasons? at lease we can learn something from here?
0 likes@spicy_kitty You are a fool if you think this as at all has anything to do with a narrative. YouTube is a company. YouTube wants money. In order to get money, they want advertiser-friendly videos. This is not a video advertisers want to put ads on, so YouTube does not prioritize it. This is just capitalism doing capitalism things.
17 likesDoesnt he have a patreon and does private videos?
0 likes@umungus you're defending an anti-vaxxer? yikes
8 likes@Snarkastic Squid I'm wondering if they removed him due to his revealing 'sources and methods' in interrogating a suspect? It's possible.
2 likesHe uploaded on his other channel
1 like@Rotpar Jesus I only called him that because he calls himself that in defence of all the provably wrong stuff he has said over the years.
9 likesThough I don't know why I'd expect fan's of Rogan to research anything, especially the idiot they are trying to defend and or promote.
@Burner Brecks Nope, I am happy he makes himself look like an idiot so frequently.
5 likes@Snarkastic Squid yt is more evil place than twitter, for me at least.
1 likeInfinite entertainment = dangerous
@ROBLOX VIDS 2clown
1 likeHey guys I'm not up to date so what did Y.T do ? I mean he ran a good honest channel.!!
0 likes@Snarkastic Squid please update us we all don't have Twitter
0 likesFollowing, in hopes someone tells me his new platform :)
0 likes@ItzBirdMan1337 lol, exactly.
1 likeHas YT become hyper-allergic to the truth? This is rock-solid documentary! What’s the matter, YT? We can’t all watch cute kittens all the time, and this is very educational and also reassuring for the public to watch competent investigators getting at the true crime…
0 likesYeah
0 likes@Adam Ha even Netflix is canceling people
1 like@Brenne They seem to be working cluelessly towards just that...
0 likesNeeds to go to rumble
0 likesJCS stopped posting on Patreon too. It's a bit weird.
1 like@June Wang Unfortunately, that is correct. Doesn't really matter how much we love his videos, they're still revealing so much investigation tactics
0 likes@Snarkastic Squid If that's the case, I hope JCS finds an alternative platform and I'd more than happily pay towards a Patreon to support this content.
1 likeJust post on rumble
1 like@Snarkastic Squid the worst part is he just BLEW UP, that faked insanity video suddenly got trillions of views, hed been fairly well known the last few years i followed the channel but that one really got the algorithms attention..and now theres hundreds and hundreds of "JCS Inspired" channels which is code for 'blatant ripoffs'
1 like@Snarkastic Squid JCS stands for Jimmy Can't Swim
0 likesThere are some reuploads of JCS videos, that aren’t on YT, on Rumble, but it doesn’t seem JCS himself has a channel there.
0 likesI saw there is also a documentary on Youtube: "The Assassination of JCS - Criminal Psychology"
0 likes@Snarkastic Squid Twitter isn't evil anymore so you can go back.
0 likesThis is one of Kizzume's best vids I think
0 likesWhat happened ?
0 likes@ROBLOX VIDS 2
1 likethis channel isn’t “pro-authority”
@June Wang even if you know those tactics. They still work when done correctly.
1 like@June Wang You could also learn all of this stuff if you major in psychology in college. Are we going to stop allowing people to study psychology, because it may allow them a chance to better respond to police interrogation? I don’t think so. I think this is a pretty silly opinion on your part
4 likes@Adam Seriously, it would be huuuuge if it was on Netflix or some streaming service
0 likesfor real
0 likes@Isaac Clodfelter dude you're stone cold, 🐂👁️. Everyone that watches Toe Rogaine needs to see the video of him admitting he would sell his grandparents if it would make him rich and famous.
3 likes@Snarkastic Squid maybe YT demontized him because he was revealing police interrogation techniques to millions of potential murders/felons who could benefit from that knowledge
0 likes@Isaac Clodfelter Rogan hasn't always been the smartest but he really showed how viable long form interviews are and has blown open the possibilities for non-gatekeeper controlled discussion for dissidents, whistleblowers, victims of censorship and cover-ups, alternative thinking in dogma dominated academic fields, etc. certainly not all guests are bringing superior repressed perspectives to the show, but the good vastly outweighs the bad. The Western media has degenerated so badly, our culture has embraced censorship and illiberalism and we badly need to identify each other and self organize into alternative systems to move the needle towards repairing our declining culture
2 likesindeed. youtube wants to be some happy bullshit place. reflect
0 likesTry ''Explore with us'' chanel.
0 likesThey got jealous because this is better than all the true crime shows on television 😂
0 likesNo kidding!
0 likes@Jared Forensic Files has revealed way more to the world.
0 likes@Isaac Clodfelter he's pretty rich for a dummy
0 likesDude I love how the female interrogator was silent the whole time then immediately bombards him with emotional distress and confrontation.
1456 likesThat must've sent his anxiety skyrocketing.
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You mean losing her composure? Ironic to your comment, that was the least helpful part of the whole thing.
72 likes@V A lmao you act like there wasn’t a plan and that this isn’t what she does for a living. She’s v obviously really laying it on and it worked, so you think it’s a coincidence she didn’t say a single word until the male detective got more hostile in his questioning?
440 likesShe is such a bad actress that I bet the only thing that skyrocketed was his entertainment.
37 likes@slovní curling he confessed tho
208 likesEspecially them deciding to let the female do it bc hearing a frantic females voice is what drove him to do what he did. She sucker punched his mind
167 likes@slovní curling A saying in Chinese. Ppl who are in the moment are blind while the observer are clear.
19 likes@Derek Raynaud please, she was so cringey. bad actress
5 likesYeah that was her intention
16 likes@V A and yet they got a confession
40 likes@arenasification it worked tho, so I’m not sure you can call her a bad actress if the guy, you know, bought it.
75 likes@arenasification but she got the confession though
22 likesit's so funny reading all these comments of people who say the female detective did a bad job as if they know what they're talking about at all. it's kinda sad how pre-occupied so many guys are with slagging off women.
124 likes@idklol these are the kinds of guys that can never have a stable relationship and it clearly shows.
50 likes@arenasification she’s not even an actress, she’s a detective. And she did her job well because he confessed.
63 likesShe wasn't very good imo
2 likes@V A Right because detectives just lose their composure all willy-nilly
15 likes@Lloyd Lim I like that saying, there aren't any that I can think of in English that mean the same thing exactly but a similar phrase would be when "you are too close to the problem"
1 like@sunkenship Yeah I think people mistake her emotional approach as an emotional outbreak
10 likes@V A comment expert coming out here with the real knowledge on how to get confession, not like she got them the confession or anything
9 likes@Tavion Taylor it was still very cringeworthy. don't know how he didn't break out in laughter. was hard to watch
0 likesShe reminds me of other women who have called me out and it scared the shit out of me!!!
2 likes@Vaonos especially weak men.
9 likes@V A "losing her composure"? Lmao you think it wasnt planned?
3 likes@idklol
2 likesEh, that onslaught of emotional begging was kind of cringey for me watching it, and I'm a woman not trying to slag off women. But it was only cringey for a moment until I remembered that it was obviously planned out that way for a reason.
I thought she was some kind of note taker or like court scribe until she came in hot
0 likes@RJ Mathieu it was a genius move.
2 likesThe last thing this dude heard when killing this girl was a woman going through extreme distress.
They used that to their advantage and threw it on the table when it was hot. And it worked.
@V A great application of sexism
2 likes@David_ cope
3 likes@arenasification She is a detective not an actress. She also helped get a confession which is her job. That's like a pilot landing a plane and you complain about him being a bad cook.
4 likes“We’re just fact finders! Theriously puhlease!”
1 like@Ellis Dee so fake yet managed to get a criminal to confess with her "fake acting"
4 likes@Connor Coultas not a correct comparison at all. The male detective sounds normal, she sounds ridiculous. She may be a good detective (investigating etc) but "acting" like she should have here, is not her strong suit. Just cause they were LUCKY and this idiot confessed doesn't mean she was good. Give me a break.
1 like@arenasification You think the male detective wasn't aware of what she was going to do in the interrogation? That she was supposed to sit there silently the whole time, maybe lightly interject occasionally? Why have her there at all if so?
3 likesIt's a two-pronged approach, the male detective kept a calm and sympathetic character while constantly providing outs to him while she directly and emotionally confronts him. Which yes, is obvious to us from our analytical standpoint. But to someone caught out in multiple lies over a murder he committed, it absolutely should be nerve wracking and would push him towards listening to the male detective's offers.
Ultimately, you can't really know if this was a bad tactic. The amount of stress and twisted mental state of someone covering up for a murder isn't something we can easily place ourselves into. I don't know how universally successful the tactic is, but it worked here, and the logic behind it is clear.
@Sashrin of course he knew it. of course it was clear that both would interrogate him. bad cop, good cop/double the pressure isn't a new concept. her performance was just like in a cheap bad theatre production, all I'm saying. nothing about the strategy. she went full on cringe with her voice.
0 likes@David_ seethe
0 likes@Sashrin you really think it was her fake transparent performance that got him to confess or the fact that he just lied to them and she tells him about how they have him on video so now he feels like he's been caught up in his own story worrying about how much they actually know? She had it easy.
0 likes@Valerie Aust hey calm down no need to seethe, just change your ways. People make mistakes it's OK.
0 likes@David_ Again, if she had it so easy, why have her there at all? He wasn't confessing when they revealed the videotape, they needed to push and compromise with him on it. You don't just present evidence with no tactic behind it during a police interrogation. Maybe it was all her, maybe the other detective could've gotten the confession alone, but I don't think your average person could say either way. It's obvious it's an act to us, but maybe not to someone just irrefutably caught out over the fact they lied about a murder and is frantically trying to think of an explanation.
0 likes@Sashrin yea I'll agree with you on that
0 likesI see some comments to the effect that the female interrogator was amazing, and I believe they're right. However, it wasn't her over the top demeanor when she "barged" into the conversation that got me. Rather, it was when she dropped her voice, lower and lower, as she realized she was getting him to agree with her.
2820 likesThat's when I realized it was all an act. Before that it felt contrived and stilted, but when I realized she was just setting up the moment when her voice became almost hypnotic, I completely changed my opinion of her on the spot.
As I was realizing this, Lee began to disagree again, and her voice rose in challenge, then lowered when he began nodding again, calm and soothing.
She was pretty amazing. I might have recommended setting a baseline a little lower than she did, except now it's easy to see how masterful she is at her craft, so obviously I can't really critique.
Her partner set him up, but she knocked him down.
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Beautifully stated. You could not have explained it better.
105 likes@Kansas Kuhlmeyer couldn't agree more. You're an author at heart ❤
22 likesI think she oversold it a bit, myself, especially since this was more a formality than anything. She and the other detec. knew he was guilty when they walked into the room together, but then again, you can't just tap the stupid on the shoulder anymore- ya gotta hit 'em with a sledgehammer. Crim psych is a fascinating rabbit hole.
57 likesShe’s so scary and in his face and he doesn’t know that he can just say “I’m not answering any questions”
26 likesThe constant shrieking, and nagging at 29:30 would make a lot of innocent people confess just to shut her up.
83 likesI was wondering what it was about her that got me on edge. I honestly hates listening to her and your comment made me understand why. She is conniving and manipulative. I probably would have confessed just so she would stop talking.
39 likesThe best bit for me was was all the silence and no eye contact from her. He kept looking for her approval before she even acknowledged him. Silent, on her phone, busy, unbothered, unimpressed by him. Nice. Very nice.
40 likesI thought she was terrible.
38 likesI thought she was unprofessional. Who begs? Please? Really?
32 likesGiving her wayyy too much credit
15 likes@poooky321 of course you did because you are not guilty of murdering your girlfriend. Shes smart in her tactics
9 likes@Suzuki GSXFA shes very smart and the fact she stayed silent for the first half only to pop in here and there and then put on that desperate act while also grilling him was amazing. criminal psychology is more than just "begging" shes super smart. "but thats not true because we have proof." amazing
21 likes@Gillroy Garlic man you need to get your ears checked if you think that's "shrieking" lmao besides it was all tactics. She did a great job
21 likes@smoothlikechoco Totally missed this. The Maestra.
6 likesFacts. She had me crying. Her ability to turn up and come back down is amazing. They seem like an outstanding duo
4 likesI loved how she blatantly ignored him and was on her phone when the other detective went to get water. Lee stared at her for a looong time; you can see him getting slowly getting sick as he realized the pretty, cheerful, & sweet looking one definitely the "BAD cop"
12 likes@Suzuki GSXFA Don't forget that Lee was known for having a lot of luck with women. So having a calm and rational detective would only trigger his fight or flight mechanism which would be too soon. They basically needed the female interrogator to play the role of a troubled and emotional woman in order to fit the stereotype that Lee was trying to create. Begging him at first and completely losng interest in him later was what worked for Lee.
15 likesBut let's say Lee was innocent. Unlike some assumed, the female interrogator wouldn't make him confess falsely. It's the exact opposite, she would've pissed him off in the same way she pissed people in the comments off. Because people like Lee would desperately want her to listen, especially when they were in the right and "a stupid woman" was being totally unreasonable.
In conclusion the roles the interrogators decided to play were pre-designed based on what they know about the suspect. And in Lee's case, a rational male AND an emotional female interrogator were neccessary in order for everything to work out. And both of the them played their own role perfectly.
@Gillroy Garlic thats what I was thinking lol damm near gave me brain damage
0 likes@Suzuki GSXFA It worked. She knew what to say to get him to talk.
1 like@Dosidicus Gigas you should hate her for being a cop, not because she's a woman
1 likeAnother excellent female interrogator to watch is the one who coaxed the confession out of Chris Watts. She was excellent....
1 like@Dusty Savoy yes that’s what i was thinking!
1 like@TBonerton the veiled sexism here is really something. You and the guy above you have issues, I'd say...
0 likesI actually liked the female detective. She budged in at the right time and threw Lee off guard. She was a complete opposite to the lead detective and I think she was trying to be the "assertive nice cop" and the realistic one. The way she pleaded and got emotional, I think she was trying to confuse Lee and get him to be sympathetic or guilty for what he did. She almost sounded like a teenage girl, perhaps to get him to think about Savannah. She read his body language and charector and knew he wasn't a man incapable of remorse so appealing to him emotionally made him more frantic and more likely to confess. Also, the lead detective was great the whole time and I liked how he let her talk during the end of the interrogation. In the end, the strategy worked.
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She was amazing. just what was needed.
47 likesShe was such a bad actor though. That "pleading" and fake crying was so unconvincing.
45 likesSorry to say but she did some real bad acting..that is not how a detective talks .. judge me all you want but being a detective is a mans job.
12 likesAt the end i will not deny this, she got the job done. And i think it might not work with everyone like it worked on this piece of shiiit "Lee".
Btw from reading you comment i can see you identify yourself as a strong feminist. Its very visible.
3 likes@KRISHNA Kona lol trying way too hard to be a 'detective,' "i can tell ur a feminist" calm down pal
125 likesShe's as 'lead'as her partner ,they're using tactics/strategies that they both review before any interview..watch carefully at 28.12 to 30.10 she takes her shoe off ,gets closer and signals her partner with her foot so he immediately stops talking so she can take over..it was all planned out hours before Rodarte sat in that chair...
41 likesBruh moment
1 like@Derpingy wonder full the LLama Potato Some men have very strong superiority complexes :/ unfortunately. They’ve been taught they’re better, and in all their narcissism they believed it.
29 likes@NatsuONF I am in the law enforcement .. But im not a detective not interested to be one. And nope sir/mam, im not a feminist(the west has effed up that movement long ago) .. I believe in equality of opportunity but not equality of outcome.
2 likes@hailey fields Men are better in many areas ... And some people like you find it too difficult and sour to digest it. Sorry to be so blunt while i say that.. But that is the truth .. No disrespect to women.. Women have their own areas of expertise, where they excel. In fact the first two teachers of life were women, my mother and teachers(also dad). So i hold em in high regard. But competing with men on equal grounds in all areas is just plain stupid. Now that is why we have mens games and women's games separately.
1 like@moved account wow .. I did not know that .. 😁
1 like@KRISHNA Kona "%s iS a MaNs JoB"
21 likesI would like ur comment but ur on 420😂
1 likeI thought she was good too!
1 like@Ubermensch The footage they show of Lee kicking himself after confessing is proof that the female detective portrayed exactly who she needed to portray to touch the right nerve with him.
19 likesThey dressed up the act as a family who deserves proper closure... but to me, it felt like who she was portraying was Savannah begging for her life.
I think their strategy was that Lee was the kind of guy spending every waking minute since killing her wishing for a chance to undo what he had done.
@KRISHNA Kona "being a detective is a mans [sic] job" ... "she got the job done"
22 likespick one
@bigman1 IDEALLY its a man's job.. But she got the job done .. What is wrong with that ... It is so easy to understand
1 like@qwerty keyboard what ever that means...
1 likeI just gave my opinion... But at the same time if there are women who want to work in areas they traditionally did not in the past, more power to them .... Like i said equality of opportunity should exist.. But one should accept the reality that equality of outcome cannot be expected.
@KRISHNA Kona they wouldnt have gotten him to confess as quickly as he did if she didnt do that
11 likes@qwerty keyboard i think krishna is tryna troll people
10 likes@KRISHNA Kona mleccha sudra
0 likes@KRISHNA Kona I hope you have a very difficult time finding a partner, realistically if you die alone you would be doing potential partners a service.
8 likes@Dan Paxton at least reply to the right person if u wanna say something to them, L for both of u
1 like@KRISHNA Kona The future is genderless
7 likes@qwerty keyboard so true i agree!!!!
2 likes@KRISHNA Kona bad bait
1 likeLook how she turns the emotion on/off at will. Whining/nagging voice, sounded forced and quite annoying.
4 likes@qwerty keyboard sorry mate... I doubt it ... Genderless is not desirable its detrimental to human societies.. Studies suggest so.. If you want sources just ask for it.
1 like@KRISHNA Kona bruh what
4 likes@Ubermensch he probably was quaking remembering how Savanah was begging for her life
1 like@KRISHNA Kona look up the definition of feminist. it just means that men are equal to women. if you disagree, your opinion on anything related to sex or gender doesn’t matter.
5 likes@Pantellica :/ rly bro
1 like@KRISHNA Kona we found ourselves a special snowflake folks lol you actually believe that being a detective is a man's job while at the same time admitting she got the job done(because, ya know shes actually good at her job. Gender has nothing to do with it) and then the whole 'its really obvious you're a feminist' comment, I have to laugh. You're so threatened by powerful women its honesty funny
3 likesBtw detectives are trained to recognize what will and won't be the best approach to getting a suspect to open up to them and confess. Some people need to have this detectives approach, some need to feel like the detective is their buddy and some need a tough approach from detectives along with many other methods. It all goes down to someone's personality and a good detective of any gender will see that and know what to do to get the job done
@KRISHNA Kona ur weird af holy, chill out
5 likes@qwerty keyboard I completely agree with this statement!
1 like@KRISHNA Kona since when was anything a mans job? we aren’t living in the 1900s, get over it.
5 likes@qwartz And possibly ace
0 likesI think the only thing that worked was when they started describing the incriminatory evidence.
2 likesHahaahah she was a shit detective. Totally a woman move crying and hollering
2 likes@DenialOfLife please be a joke please be a joke.
1 likeIf its not: it's an interrogation technique to get an emotional response from the suspect in a real life murder case. In no way was it supposed to be pleasant to anyone in this scenario. It's like good cop bad cop, it's a technique to garner sympathy or trust from the suspect in order to get them to confess or at least nervous, or in some cases calm enough to explain what happened.
@KRISHNA Kona YouTube comment sections are a great place to convince people that being a feminist is dumb you are rlly killing it here Krishna I applaud you keep going buddy plz let me know when the incel club meeting is I would love to join in
4 likes@Haleigh Morgan so true 😅
0 likes@christine michelle sorry mam... You got me wrong .. Threatened by powerful women you sa.. hell no mam.. Well that is my problem .. Women who fight for equality only really fight for positions of power like politics, bureaucratic positions, CEO's, sports, so on so forth. Its never about equal representation in fields like carpentry, blacksmiths, rig workers, mining etc. At the very least i have never seen one woman activist in my life till date saying they wanted representation in the above said vocations. My simple question to you and all in this comment section who are currently thinking im stupid is, why are these difficult and tough jobs ALMOST(there are exceptions) always a mans duty. Now isn't that hypocritical.
0 likes@StewGaming i aint a skinwalker 😂
0 likes@Terraform thank you buddy... I just gave my opinion .. You're free to give yours as well.. I guess you have to learn your manners sir.
0 likes@Madison show me a lady working as a miner, carpenter, septic tank cleaners, rig workers, masons and many more... At least 20% .. Now there may be around 5-8%. Show me a figure greater than 20% and ill accept that im wrong.
0 likes@Haleigh Morgan i dont need to convince you as long as i know what i know is true.
0 likes@Haleigh Morgan and about the incel club thing.. I choose to ignore it.. Because you know thats what i do when dogs bark mam.
0 likes@KRISHNA Kona what makes you think you haven’t convinced me? Your sources and sound logic have 100% convinced me that only men should be detectives and police officers. Great job! I feel so grateful to have come across your words in this comment section, you are truly doing the lord’s work!
1 like@Haleigh Morgan hey ... You know what? let it be at that.. Did not mean to hurt anyone here .. Just put out my thought, never was convincing no one here...
0 likesI have zero idea why everyone is criticizing the female detective here. Both detectives have clearly planned out roles and do their jobs well here. She played her role well and got exactly the reaction they were looking for. Her role was to emotionally overwhelm him and that's what happened.
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exactly. she seems a bit annoying to me too tbh but these interrogations aren't meant to be a show for us. it's a real world, a real murderer, this is real. and in reality, especially when you murdered someone, you don't find emotional outbursts annoying. people really should look the expressions of the murderer when the female detective play the "humanity" card. it's incredible how fast the murderer broke his character.
90 likesIt’s misogyny ✨
83 likesmost people can't stand hysterical women yelling. its not convincing nor intimmidating. its annoying. This usually results in suspects shutting down or experiencing feelings of superiority
12 likes@Milchi actually the lead detective is playing the bad cop and the female detective is playing the good cop. she uses her emotions to try and confuse him and make him trust her. shes trying to find the good in him to get him to say something that can help them especially since the bad cop act wasnt working at all up to that point. its not supposed to be intimidating or convincing. he just went through an hour of getting interrogated by the male detective, and the female detective is supposed to come in as the nice and friendly person who hes gonna trust. he feels less threatened by her and is more likely to confide
45 likes@Milchi bruh. it was not "yelling". and you may find that annoying, you're not the one who's in the situation of that murderer. interrogations are psychological wars. you can't just comment "it's not convincing". did it work? it worked.
40 likes@the nameless it worked, essentially, because the evidence was substantial. You don't need a female interrogator to crack his base. It's just super cringe and annoying. Also not fun to watch for the audience.
4 likesYes!!!
1 likeayyy i played pajama sam as a kid, "theres no need to hide when its dark outside!"
3 likesI had a similar interaction when I was being interviewed, they were following a narrative that wasn’t true, and asked for a honest confession to a story that wasn’t real. The pressure you feel when being, interrogated in this position, honestly is terrifying, it should never go beyond emotion, The guy detective handled the whole situation perfectly, calm and passive aggressive.
2 likes@Milchi "usually results" forgot you were a detective
4 likesYeah her job is to show him how ppl feel about this, like Savannahs parents
4 likesIt's just because women are shamed for having emotions. I'm AFAB and I'm very used to having my emotions blamed on hormones. See also: any joke about someone being on "that time of the month." She did a wonderful job and I sincerely doubt any man would be criticized like this.
17 likesWhat if she actually just lost it? And we're all being bamboozled here? She just said fuck it, I'm not a good actor, time to give real emotion. That would be a pretty big brain strat. She could still just play it off as an act maybe.
0 likes@A_True_Generic_Gamer Both the male and female detectives had very calculated actions. She did not just lose it. Another commenter noticed how they both have a signal. The female detective taps the male detective gently with her foot when she needs him to stop speaking and he immediately does so. This also happens during her "outburst" and it's clear that they had intended to do this all along.
4 likes@Milchi the interrogation wasn't intended for an audience bro
3 likesI know why they are criticizing her: and I suspect you do too. Too many people feel comfortable not analyzing their misogyny.
1 like@Troy Blackford Equating every critique to a woman as misogyny doesn't help fighting misogyny.
0 likesI guess it worked but her whining and pleading would have irritated me or most men. The subject takes it better than I or maybe most men would. The sound of a shrill whining and pleading women is not generally one that induces truth telling and admission or results in appeals for morality. More like anger and resentment towards her and digging in of the heels. in that moment you're more likely to dislike her and therefore not give her what she wants. she becomes almost hysterical whether an act or not. Her appeals that the victim is like her own child and someone's daughter (everyone is someone's son or daughter) seem forced and not that effective she doesn't exude warmth or genuine concern for the victim or their family. It's really the admission that they have security footage contradicting his story that does most of the legwork in getting a confession.
0 likes@Milchi i doubt they give a shit about the "audience" its an interrogation not a show
0 likesYeah idk why people were complaining when her and male cop got the confession out of Lee. Like the way she was acting obviously did it’s job. Probably just misogyny as usual.
0 likesThe female detective is playing superior mind games. Using the stereotypes about women being emotional and to her advantage, to overwhelm the perpetrator. She's definitely acting when she says i think of my little girl, not to say that she definitely doesn't have a daughter that age, but she deliberately sat silent for a long while to intimidiate him firstly since he didn't know what this detective was thinking and then she deliberately overplayed it and the good cop bad cop angle
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Sociopaths become experts on understanding how their words and body language affect other people. Without empathy, they have to operate at a different level.
21 likesI thought she was brilliant. I was quite surprised to see how negative people are being about her approach!
183 likes@utmattad och ledsen ikr?
9 likesshe was excellent indeed. not to take anything away from the male investigator (he did a great job too), but i believe the female detective's quick and to the point intervention was what turned the tide. well done to both of them!
90 likes@I Tell You For Free agreed!
2 likeswow overexaggerated much? she literally cried, begged and said "that could be my daughter" superior?
22 likes@sunnycoast4558 yeah it was superior, it was emotional intimidation and the criminal fell for it hard, it's woerd that misogyny or plain stupidity stops people from seeing that it was all an act and the act worked out fabulously
111 likesShe was appealing to his emotions and morals that the man has. Not every criminal is a diagnosed psychopath therefore it’s always worth trying to get at their emotions
57 likes@utmattad och ledsen
0 likesSame
Lady's boys often can't stand pretty girls not acknowledging them or treating them with contempt. The guy was also pretty and very fit, another thing they don't like. The most impressive thing is how simple their formula and profiling was.
9 likesWrong. The female detective is likely on her period or being overly emotional for no reason when the interrogation calls for professionalism like her boss displays. He should have kicked her out of the room at least or told her to go get Lee some snacks or a sandwich because she was well out of line. It's amazing to me that women like this are allowed to carry loaded weapons. It's downright scary.
13 likes@dbone024 If you're trolling then well done.
28 likesYo she saw something in this man that I did NOT catch at first! That emotional play, I personally felt was overacting, but the results shocked me! Shows I have more to learn about feminine energy still:) Great detective, as well as her male counterpart! What a team!
11 likes@Simon Peter's Teachings yo you mad sus for that comment bro.
0 likesIs a male cop female cop, instead of good and bad ^^
3 likes@dbone024 I am you. Everyone in the world is you, it's why we call it Youniverse. Dualism implies oneness, just as left implies right. Opposites are the same. Nothing you do is hidden, "dbone" J. You think you know shit... XD At least it's funny to watch you scramble in your own confusion XDDD
6 likesLol, good job speaking for her, galaxy brain
1 like@Simon Peter's Teachings nah son, you are NOT ME. DON'T EVEN TRY MINE GAMES SON I'M TO SMART FOR THEM
3 likes@Simon Peter's Teachings Oh you're right, I never thought of it like that.
0 likesIt’s interesting to see a female investigator. Obviously interrogations are highly psychological and a woman in the room allows for a whole new dynamic and strategy.
5 likesShe said "we", the male cop said "I". Wonder if they planned that.
4 likesShe probably meant what she said when talking about her little girl why she got emotional she used it to her advantage.
0 likes@Zeh Sackett you correct when you use the word boys not men...but I believe she grabbed his attention with her emotions got to his cold heart
1 like@dbone024 lol she was trying to get to his heart she did a good job
2 likes@Zeh Sackett and if he is being serious let's pray for him
2 likesI think her and the male investigator made the perfect duo. They are such a contrast to each other it was clearly overwhelming the suspect.
5 likes@Random Ginger Art yes! Good to see at least some poeple getting it!
2 likesAfter this female detective here: https://youtu.be/ymcNhAgO7Pw I seriously believe nobody could impress me. She was able to find her way to a man who was accused in rape, to confess for murders to women (one of the victims wasn't even reported as missing) and lead them to their bodies. The guy turned to be a serial killer. They were about to find two bodies after they get a search warrant but they would never be able to relate him to the other 3.
2 likes@Nora oh yeah her! She was so good.
2 likesIn case anyone is interested, I found the reddit on the case. He's still awaiting trial because Florida is trying hard not to screw this one up, and his sister is also in jail for a separate murder, which was caught on film also. Seems like killing on video runs in their family.
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Thank you
19 likesFlorida man...
78 likesYou got a link for the post?
6 likesWow..
6 likesGreat family!
@VCGTdunker Nah, getting rid of their remains is the easy part. Just knowing that in one fell swoop you've ended one life and likely ruined your own is enough to make a man panic. That doesn't require anyone to be a psycho, it just requires them to be utterly terrified of what they've done and what might happen now.
43 likes@VCGTdunker The thing is, people aren't that rational. If you were to put 100 people into this situation I can basically guarantee you that only a minority of them will call the police. It's an extreme situation that usually invokes a fight or flight response and since the victim is already dead there's noone to fight.
46 likesIt's not like you imagine it. Everyone likes to think that if they get into trouble they are just gonna own up to their mistakes and take whatever punishment awaits them head on but when it actually happens they suddenly try to make excuses and try to get out of that situation.
Sure, there are probably people capable of making the rational choice but if the only ones to ever flee the scene were the psychos police work would be hell of a lot easier.
Fact of the matter is, the rational choice is the direct opposite of what all of your survival instincts are telling you in that instance and few people can just supress that, especially not the kind of people who lack the self-control to not accidentially kill others in an argument.
@VCGTdunker I'm not arguing about his guilt or innocence, I merely said that I don't think he's a psycho. I think that he was convinced he had commited a murder and that he panicked. I doubt the term "manslaughter" even crossed his mind on that parking space. A genuine sociopath would not experience remorse to this level, neither for the victim nor themselves.
23 likes@Darthplagueis13 That's true. The Jodi video seems to indicate that she could be a psychopath both for the lack of remorse she feels and the planning. In this, Rodarte seems to be too panicked to be put into that category.
11 likesUm what? Who'd she murder?
5 likesThank you. I was looking for some updated info
1 like@VCGTdunker I agree with @Darthplagueis13 you have absolutely no idea how you would react in that situation unless you are actually in that situation for yourself. And also Lee is not a psycho, he showed true remorse for what he had done even if he plead not guilty for it, the video footage of him crying and telling himself he is stupid for what he had done calling himself a piece of shit and apologizing to savannah even after doing what he did shows he has emotions. Psychotic people can not feel those emotions and he would have not apologized for it or cried at all.
8 likesSure people with psychosis are good at acting but not that good. They only know how to react by learning how others react in certain situations. He said his mother was addicted to methamphetamines when he was growing up and so yes he had a dysfunctional family which can lead to problems in the future, And yes he was intelligent enough to know he fucked up because he stated he was going places and he was stupid for not using his brain or just telling her to leave him alone so yes he knew he was wrong for doing it.
People with psychosis don't know that it is wrong they don't know the difference between right and wrong because they lack the emotion to feel bad for others. So before you assume someone is a psycho I think you should actually do your research on what exactly it is first. And I don't give a fuck if you read this or not or whether you get upset and pissy. Educate yourself before assuming.
@VCGTdunker Also by the way it does not matter if the person was rational before murdering someone or not. Once you murder your mind isn't rational at all and you're not going to think of calling 911. What is going through your mind at that time is a bunch of irrational thoughts rushing because you are in a state of panic and you know what you did was wrong but you know if you tell someone then you will go to prison so what seems rational to you at the time is to hide what you did hope it will never be discovered and keep it locked away as a secret from everyone but that is not usually how it ends up.
1 like@VCGTdunker Not knowing is the opposite of an assumption, but hey, I didn’t realize you were a psychologist expert on the effects of stress on the human brain. You’re the one assuming 💀
4 likesSweet update ;D
0 likesDamn Florida...
2 likesOh shit! The sister murdered someone too?
0 likesDon’t move to Florida. I came here from Indiana thinking it was such a better move, I promise it’s not. 😂
1 likeHer sister might be Stabby Arias for all we know lol.
0 likesNo way!!
0 likes@VCGTdunker completely disagree, its not an accident, why would you call 911? Self preservation is the next step, the victim's life is over, and your will be over too if you dont dispose of them, I mean cutting someone up is definitely messed up, but trying to cover up one's crime is just natural. Even if he calls 911, he will still makeup a story to save him self.
2 likes@Illumibunny Madness just a minor correction, psychopathy is probably what you meant not psychosis. Psychosis is what people with say for example schizophrenia experience, its basically a symptom.
3 likesGood looks for sharing this was hella inteesting to just tie into this story. Thank you my thoughts have accepted this and is glad this is now apart of the thought bank
0 likesWhere's the film?
0 likesYou speak of rational people not committing murders. My daughter's grandmother was murdered 8 years ago by her boyfriend of 10 years. This is a man I never once saw raise his voice, or even get upset. I saw him in a store just two weeks before he killed her, and he was asking me to please come see her.
7 likesThe night before this happened, my daughter spent the night with them. The next day her grandmother's car was found on the highway with the hood up, like something was wrong with the car. He had the mindset to get her car to highway to pretend she went missing from there, when the truth was he had strangled her, shoved her body into a 55 gallon drum and rolled her out into the woods behind her house.
Once he finally confessed and was arrested, he bonded out of jail and tried to commit suicide jumping off of a bridge. Unfortunately for him, he survived. Took forever, but he finally got 40 years and is paralyzed from the waist down.
We still struggle today with understanding how such a seemingly gentle and sane 55 year old man did this to the woman he claimed to love.
@VCGTdunker you couldn't even know that unless you've killed someone in a fit of rage before
2 likesO my god 🙀🙀🙀 what is her name so we can look it up . Who did she kill ?🤔
0 likesNice family🥴
0 likes@VCGTdunker The facts of the matter are that 90% of decisions made by people are emotional not logical. When you account for 5% or so that are psychopaths it's less than that for the average person. A stressful situation putting you in an extremely emotional state. Unless you have experienced this a lot in your life you won't have a rational thought. You will be think completely emotionally.
0 likesThe question is what emotion do you choose guilt or fear/selfishness. There is nothing rational about the decision. Most people think of themselves as good people and would feel extreme guilt.
Obviously fish boy isn't that good of a person and let's fear drive him. He killed her cause she feared she would ruin his life. He hid the evidence cause he feared for his life. It's really that simple.
@Darthplagueis13 I’m sorry and you know this ...how 😳
0 likesWTF his sister is also a murderer? maybe it's something genetic
0 likesWhaaat? His sister also committed murder? Gtfo! That's crazy. You sure about this?
1 likeOk so the police have a hard job. However, those two detective's should have watched the two who handled the Chris watts interrogation. The woman just whines on, and the other one seems like a Muppet. Not very in control and their role playing is laughable
0 likesupdate: he pled guilty
0 likesmy dad is a lawyer and he has always told me that if i'm ever arrested for any crime, regardless of how minor the offense or whether i'm innocent or not, NEVER. EVER. speak without your lawyer present. hold onto that right to be silent like a lifeboat.
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This is 100% accurate. It doesn’t matter if one is guilty or innocent. Always always get legal advice before speaking about anything.
155 likesWow, really? I've never read that before on interrogation video.
48 likes@HillbillyHell the authorities won’t say this, they want people to talk.
74 likesIt’s just good practice to get some legal advice first so you know your rights whether innocent or guilty.
I’ve been falsely accused of a crime before and getting that legal advice prior to anything to ensure I was prepared and knowledgeable of the process was just invaluable.
@HillbillyHell“I want to speak with my lawyer” when you’re being questioned is what every lawyer will tell you to do.
45 likesGee, I have a crazy idea. Don't commit crimes! How fucking nuts is that?
48 likes@genki2genki what about the people falsely accused?
131 likesI agree - people shouldn’t commit crimes. But there is a video on this channel about people being falsely accused and they have ended up in prison. It is really sad.
@genki2genki your ignorance is showing. innocent ppl come in for questioning all the time. Ask for your lawyer no matter what.
82 likesMy dad's an accountant and he taught me that you have to pay your taxes no matter what.
63 likes@iBot this is also very important!
18 likesThis is exactly what you do. There could be a murder on the other side of the country and you never even left your home that week and still you should say nothing if you get called in for an interview.
15 likes@Sakurya Unless you wanna help the cops solve a murder.
7 likesLike a lifeboat HAHA or the last bottle of clean water while on said liveboat.
6 likesWhy American crime justice system is a failure
3 likes@genki2genki, if you're innocent that's when you don't talk to the police without a lawyer
7 likesis a witness to a crime
11 likesI WONT SAY ANYTHING WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY
@Bruthole, you're so clever, smart and bright.
4 likesI've never seen someone do smart in a YouTube comment section
Thank your dad for me
4 likesPeople figure that they'll play nice and appear co-operative. I don't understand why they do it, especially if they're guilty. Just shut up already.
4 likes@genki2genki what’s more fucking nuts is that cops have been able to mentally exhaust someone to the point of confessing to crimes they never actually committed
12 likes@yakheen THIS is the reason why you think the justice system is a failure?
3 likes@Putin's BFF In their mind if they don't cooperate, or lawyer up, it looks more suspicious. To be fair there is some truth to that. If you're a witness to a murder, and in no way guilty, you'd have very little reason to lawyer up when giving police your testimony.
1 likeIkr they even tell you that and people still talk.
1 likeI could go on and on about this case, but basically: have self-control and if someone slaps you, walk away. Men have more strength and bone density than women. Fathers usually tell you don't ever put your hands on a woman and Don't talk to police without a good defence lawyer, even if you are innocent. Also cameras are everywhere.
4 likes"Can and will be used against you..."
13 likesNot for you. Nothing you say or do can contribute to a plea of innocence, they are there to collect evidence against you, period. Compliance during interview has never, ever, ever been a pertinent factor in determining innocence; in fact it is very illegal to use 'obtaining counsel' against a suspect.
Always seek counsel.
@AtticusDragon exactly.
1 like@AtticusDragon But if the "suspect" is pretending to just be a "witness" then it does look weirdly suspicious if they want a lawyer. I think thats the distinction here. Most of these idiots are trying to pretend they had nothing to do with the disappearance/murder of someone, so they act helpful. A truly neutral witness has no reason to protect themselves when aiding an investigation. Thats why they don't lawyer up.
0 likesA neutral witness has every reason to lawyer up, that's the point. By your own logic, if most guilty parties avoid counsel to appear innocent, wouldn't an innocent person behave opposite?
9 likesThe assertion you made that seeking counsel arouses suspicion is moot; suspicion doesn't gather evidence, warrants do. No judge would sign a warrant based on the suspicion caused by a suspect exercising their rights. It is simply not legal to use this against a suspect. One of the Rittenhouse prosecutors tried to lean into this; the judge cleared the room and absolutely lambasted the prosecution.
@AtticusDragon You're missing my point completely.
0 likeswow didn't know lifeboats were that silent!
3 likeshj 3876: I beg to differ. It is akin to a shop steward in a union shop. Some things are not said in front of one. A steward is there to protect his co-worker-dues-paying, union members.
1 likeIf you are stopped -- comply.
"Is this your car, that you are opening with a key and getting into?" Yes.
@iBot nope. It's not your job as a civilian to "help" them solve a crime. Always shut your trap till you have a lawyer
5 likes@Skunket: Links and data, please.
0 likesI tell my kids this all the time. 🙏🏽
1 likeYou'll sit in jail until your court date..usually 2 years
0 likes@Deadsy Padilla: An innocent person should say so. Silence sometimes is not golden. A roll in the hay with a gay in a park in front of the sun's ray -- is minor and should keep this away from his lawyer and family: Naughty: Nasty. Better to be a teef and reap the consequences rather than the shame and disease levied on the ones he loves.
0 likeshe could just wait for a lawyer and lie saying that she left his house after having sex
0 likesAnd just so there's no question, affirmatively invoke your right to remain silent and request a lawyer.
1 likeSame to car insurance told me do not admit anything to police or the other driver that u r right or wrong until insurance claim guy arrives.
1 like@genki2genki people get arrested and are suspected even when they havent commited a crime. Often times simple wording mistakes in wording and coincidence are all police have to go on and they manage to falsely imprison people for it.
3 likes@Gentle Khajiit I do believe they were being sarcastic.
0 likesMy dad should just teach you to never do bad things. if you dont do no wrong, you dont have to lie.
0 likes@iBot most people don't care if they got the job done properly, i.e. the guilty party. They're more concerned with getting the job done, a conviction. Police are not on the side of the citizen
1 like@AngelEyes who was? This comment thread is too long now so I'm not sure who you're referring to.
1 likeMy father is a carpenter and he doesn't give a damn.
1 like@iBot no, even if your intentions are true, the detectives can always twist your words and make you answer a question just to prove you are guilty, that’s what the job entails, to find the suspect. One wrong word and you look bad. But some word of advice, the only words you should speak of if ever interrogated is “I don’t know” and “I’d like to speak to a lawyer”
1 like@eddyvideostar English.
0 likesThis is why if completely innocent you still don't speak to police: https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE?t=1346
1 likeMy dad is a wrestler and he say's "Never try to chokeslam the Undertaker".
0 likes@eddyvideostar OJ Simpson
0 likes@HillbillyHell you never know who might see it and it save an innocent persons life. Never speak without an attorney present. Invoke your 5th amendment if in US and also make sure to verbalize wanting an attorney present before speaking w police or answering any questions.
1 like@Aaron Hernandez you dont understand much of anything do you?
0 likesYep. "I would like an attorney, please & thank you. I would also like a coffee."
1 likeI've never understood why this position exists. Call me unhelpful, but I don't see why anyone, guilty or innocent, ever consents to an interview. Why would having your lawyer present suddenly make it acceptable? I especially don't understand why anyone who is innocent would have a bar of these shenanigans. If I were held on suspicion of a crime, I'd be too angry about the time I'd never get back, to even speak calmly with my lawyer in private.
0 likesit's great how when they're "setting up" for the interview, they have the female detective just sitting silently on her phone. zero attempt at interaction at all. kind of a mutt and jeff thing, really, but instead of antagonism it's just pure apathy. since the perp is so social and extroverted (and successful with women) this likely put him immediately on the back foot. to a guy used to getting the attention of pretty women, a pretty woman who's completely ignoring him is probably something he's not used to. just a brilliant setup. so nuanced.
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Wow good observation/interpretation of that scenario!
321 likesDoes he really care, though? She said she has a 21 yr-old daughter. That would make her most likely over 40. Then again, maybe he does think all women want him. But what do I know? I'm not a guy.
111 likes@Mary O even if he wouldn’t want to hit on her, being completely alone with her in a tense situation, knowing she’s looking to interrogate you, and her pretending you don’t exist is brutal
275 likes@Nathaniel Jacobson I thought that the detective ignoring him would be brutal & though Lee didn’t seem ta care, he is hard ta read. When the detective had ta ask her first question, she wasn’t rude so she could’ve been the good cop (or not). Secondly the narrator said "from what detectives could gather" Lee was popular. In reality, he’s aloof.
21 likesI don’t like how the lady detective was dam near crying. Like bro you think he has enough mental stamina to even try and understand where you are coming from. He’s trying to dodge questions. The dude was on his ass. Then she steady bringing up the camera. Man I almost was convinced the camera must wasn’t to good if you keep bringing it up lmao
42 likes@The Alpha the whole channel is literally about closely analyzing interrogation methods, I don’t think it makes sense to complain someone is doing so
74 likes@Mary O he’s like 30… he could find a woman old enough to have a 21 year old attractive. She was probably lying anyway
10 likes@Katie Graham - that's why I said, "What do I know? I'm not a guy." Men are visual. Maybe age doesn't matter if women take care of themselves. Maybe each guy is different. I'm attracted to younger men. When I was in my 20's, I found 30-something guys creepy... because of their age alone.
6 likes@That Part
28 likesHer crying would have only increased his anxiety. Even if he didn't have any empathy for her, her daughter or his victim, he was already clearly anxious and having a crying woman in a small room with him would have given them the tactical advantage because it keeps him emotionally overwhelmed.
Nah
3 likesThey probably put her there so they couldn’t be accused of sexism
@Mary O all the guy would want is positive reaction from an attractive woman in power and he would happily think he could sweep her off her feet for a night...whether she has a daughter or not wouldn’t have mattered to him at all!
6 likesThey played him like a flute.
10 likes@Karol D she didn't add anything to this interrogation.
5 likesWhen I see traffic cops on the road today, they got their cell phone in their hand, and are often looking at it. I wouldn't give the cop to much credit for looking at her cell phone, more likely she's like many other milleniels very little social skills and not good at initiating things without a computer prompt, she could be using the time to establish rapport, and more than likely she just wants the man to take the lead, while she's writing complaints about unequal pay.
5 likes@Brad Leblanc fax
2 likes@Supreme Hare Do you realize that some people actually use their cellphones as apart of their job? Also, not sure if you are aware, but detectives =/= cops. Totally different set of duties, roles, responsibilities.
20 likesAlso, what does the generation that someone is from have anything to do wuth the interrogation of the suspect of a violent crime? No bearing on this whatsoever.
Furthermore, you cannot see the woman's age in the limited footage we have of her, so for all you know she could be part of the lost generation, or a boomer like yourself.
In addition to this point-- everything done in an interview room is staged and set like a play. They have a plan of attack when they go in, based on the behavior and profiling of the suspect. Nobody that doesnt need to be there is in that room.
I tend to believe that people who do this for a profession.. Know what their doing when they set up a room like this. These arent cashiers at Kroger's, Karen. These are highly trained professionals.
Why do you feel as though you have such a superior position from your couch to tell this detective she added nothing.
Rapport building is typically used with subjects who hold themselves in high regard, and are seen as upstanding members of the community. It makes them feel more comfortable, which makes the shift from a question to an accusation much more uncomfortable when that time comes. Somebody like himself-- a line chef and lower manager at a corporate resturant-- isnt going to need that.
Silence is often one of the most effective questions.
Since we all know you have a degree in criminal psychology and gender-social constructs-- Thank you for giving us this amazing education 🔥😍🔥. We all appreciate the time you wasted being such a misogonist on YouTube lol
Also.. She was actually the one who illicited his partial confession at approximately 51 minutes in the interview... So....... ?????????
16 likes@Katie Graham she used tears because she’s appealing to his humanity. Remember his mom’s past addiction.
7 likesAnyone with 2 braincells could tell they are doing that on purpose lol
6 likesThey didn't know about his success with women in this interview. You're just saying this because you have the hindsight knowledge of it
1 likeand then she proceeds to ruin the whole thing by opening her mouth
1 like@Sparrow Southwell I think you @'ed the wrong person. I didn't say anything about detectives equalling cops, or her age, or mention her being on her phone. Did you really need to send me an essay?
1 likeI think you're over analyzing it. She's a 40+ year old woman and not every guy gets depressed because not every single woman they saw opened her legs for him😂😂
1 like@Pavel Tikhonov Wow. Watch your edge there dude. She was the one that got the suspect speaking.
9 likes@That Part That's the point. He doesnt have the mental stamina to keep up which ends up breaking him down.
5 likeslol what a dumb reach, there is literally 0 indication that it was set up like that just for that purpose and the woman in the interrogation was like 20 years older than him. Stop reaching.
1 like@Liraaell No she didn't, she was just being a major nuisance while being overly dramatic and added literally 0 to the interrogation.
1 like@Georgie lol how is that a good observation? dude is just rambling nonsense without any substance whatsoever
0 likes@MisterUntamed I said good OBservation
0 likes@Georgie yea none of that is a good observation though, dude rambling nonsense
0 likes@MisterUntamed maybe to the untrained eye 😉
0 likesI love being ignored by pretty women.
0 likes@Georgie I agree with you.
2 likesBUT
You’d think a doctor wouldn’t have the time or care enough to argue with an internet stranger 🤔
@Nick West haha you’re right I have better things to do. But if someone takes the time to be rude then I’ll take the time to stand up for myself 😅
0 likes@Georgie I feel that
0 likesWow, I didn't even pick up on that but excellent point!
0 likesEh I dunno, she comes off as slightly hysterical.
1 likeWell she took him for what he is. Some bum who uses drugs and is a cook at a crappy restaurant.
0 likesJust like these videos you romanticized the shit out of this haha
0 likesDon’t disturb her! She’s playing angry birds
0 likesThat makes alot of sense
0 likes@Supreme Hare that's 100% false and an idiotic statement. Did you not watch the interrogation at all?
0 likes@Minh Nhat Nguyen they did know from interviewing the restaurant employees.
0 likesWhy do you assume they knew he’s a ladies man? If he is, then why would he care if a lady cop ignores him? Do you assume that every woman he comes across is interested in him? Such a dumb assumption and then there’s people replying like it’s insightful. You people are really simple
2 likes@DubsTV again well it's actually about control and power so if he did kill the women he was in a relationship with he feels power over them and don't view them as better than him so relationship is not about if the women detective wants him it's a power play and men who are predator are over confident especially over women they view as weak but the women detective is in more of a powerful role and at that moment the boss calling the shots even if it appears she is just a women and you see his view of the girlfriend he kept saying her faults
1 like@No No He is guessing why she is there just on her phone and makes him nervous so yes there is good reason the detective is doing this so it's not a accident that the detective is on her phone
3 likes@MisterUntamed this whole channel is a case study on criminal psychology techniques used to fuck with people's heads. Why don't you think that it's even remotely plausible that she was attempting to play on his charm and ego, appealing to his sense of morality? You dont think that Lee's psychological profile matches that of someone who thinks he could charm his way out of an interrogation?
0 likes@KingOsiris Because there is 0 indication or mentioning that this guy is interested in someone 20 years older, let alone in a f**** interrogation room of all the places. Obviously that is the last thing on his mind in that situation. Like use your brain my dude. Just a reach without any substance.
0 likes@No No I think you're over thinking this. I don't think that the comment about not giving Lee any attention was of a "cougar vs young man" dynamic. The narrator in the video explained that Lee's profile is that of a young bachelor who is a successful chef and very popular at his job, a ladies man party boy. It's evident that the investigators could deduce from this that he'd likely be an open book who'd talk himself into a hole of half truths. By appearing disinterested, the female investigator was letting her partner lead with open ended questions. Goal being to appeal on his egocentric fabrications, all while making him uneasy about whether the detectives even give a shit about his story. It was definitely intentional.
1 like@MisterUntamed Nah, if in the face of an opposing view, the first angle you take is ad hominem directed at a person's intellect, rather than factually breaking down the argument point by point, it says alot more about your intelligence than mine. Immature kids do that, or adult babies. You don't need me to explain why... You talk of goal posting yet you provide no counter argument beyond "(paraphrase)you're reaching, nothing he or she did communicates that she was silently shutting down advances of a provocative nature". Where as I'm explaining that the core point of the initial comment above is that she was deliberately attempting to shatter his ego based on the psychological profile they constructed around him before entering the room. Based on what the narrator said in the video, there is reason to assume a probability that he's used to being in complete control of conversations with the opposite sex. Even possibly contributing to the aggravating factors surrounding Savannah's killing. Now, try like a grown up to provide a contrary view without resorting to "no thats reaching, u big dum dum". You don't owe that to me or any internet stranger for that matter, but I'd like to think you're well versed and intelligent enough to argue why you think that's a complete reach.
1 like@KingOsiris You wrote an entire book that nobody is ever going to read. What this all boils down to is you goalposting and ignoring the original comment that is nothing but a major reach and a nonsensical statement that has 0 substance or evidence. Even JCS doesn't mention it in the video for a reason. Thats because there is nothing to the placement of the female interrogator, which by the was worse of the two in the interrogation and used emotional breakdown as a tactic. Any smart person in that kind of position would never fall for those cringey tactics or care for that, but obviously criminals aren't the smartest people just like yourself. Also its still hilarious that you think this guy cared about whoever was in front of him just after he murdered someone and the possibility of going to prison became very real now.
0 likes@Mary O I got a tip from an older lady because she thought my hair was beautiful. Being attractive to someone still feels nice even if it's a gay guy.
0 likesAlso 40 can still be hot and I'm only 23.
@No No No they do stuff like this on purpose. It makes sense to assume it would make him feel insecure. My friend who's a ladies man is really insecure if a female doesn't fully aknowledge him. The only other ploy would be to get a young, shredded pretty boy detective cause they hate that too.
0 likesYea the only reason they were alone was because he said yes to the water. If he said no they would have went right along with the interrogation. In hindsight he probably wanted the water because of the adderall. I’ve taken my fair share lol
0 likes@Nathaniel Jacobson I dont think its brutal at all. Hes in an interrogation room with her; clearly they’re “enemies”.
0 likesthat’s so silly, dude is being interrogated about the girl he legit just murdered and the one thing that’s gonna scare him is the 40-something female detective not paying attention to him cus he’s such a ladies-man, what?
1 like@No No "Why do you assume they knew he’s a ladies man?"
0 likesbecause he's knocking down the door of 30 and banging a hot 20 year old. if you don't think experienced city homicide detectives (not just beat cops, as some here have mistakenly assumed) can read guys like lee as if he were a fucking book, you don't understand the first thing about anything. this was not day 1 of the investigation and they had already interviewed everyone in savannah's life. they knew a lot about lee rodarte, and they had the ability to play off what they knew about him.
"Do you assume that every woman he comes across is interested in him?"
what i assume has nothing to do with it. what's important is that HE assumes that he's able to charm women as he pleases. you might not have the life experience to have been around guys like that. i have. you might not be an astute enough observer to grok the way they move about the world, that uniquely confident power they actually do wield in daily life. charisma is the cheat code to modern life. guys with charisma get a lot of women. they get used to it. the human brain, when it gets used to something, it expects more. was the female detective's apathy towards lee "the key" that cracked the case? no, don't be fucking ridiculous. but was it one AMONG MANY elements in this set-up that together threw him sufficiently off-balance to extract a confession? abso-fucking-lutely.
"You people are really simple"
not everyone is as simple as YOU are.
The female officer was really manipulative and persuasive.
2828 likesWell done!
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Better to have the sociopath on the side of the law than the alternative. At least that's the feeling until you are dragged in for a crime you did not commit, and they use the same tactics on you. Oh, that doesn't happen? For every tape released I guarantee there are 10 that they do NOT want to have to release. Using those tactics to break down innocent people is disgusting and painful to watch.
135 likes@Princeofcups Poc i assume anyone who is innocent would be alot more aggressive and visibly annoyed than the guilty.
68 likes@yeshua sage yep and then they say “he showed his guilt by answering the questions aggressively” just plead the 5th, also the woman almost ruined the case and would’ve if the man was an actual sociopath and didn’t show enough empathy to admit to it
45 likesfor real. she didn’t say much but she got the job done.
45 likesshe was really great
13 likeslmao all she did was cry and beg? a child could do better
60 likes@Princeofcups Poc
24 likesIf someone's innocent, they most likely wouldn't get to the point of using such aggressive manipulation tactics. It's rather apparent that they only go this far if they're at least near certain that the person they're questioning is guilty.
She was too emotionol... This was no good "performance".
16 likes@I Tell You For Free Right... A comment say a lot about a person. Just so you know, kid ;)
3 likes@Doet Er Niet Toe
52 likesThe emotion was purposefully faked.
@Patrick Ross It wasn't tho. She could not stay on point when speaking. If you watch back you might see what im seeing.
6 likesnot manipulative
1 like@Tim Anderson
6 likesBut it worked, keyboard warrior
@R Nickerson how did it work? tell me the timestamp in this video where her begging and crying made him confess?
5 likes@sunnycoast4558
9 likesYou didn't watch the whole thing?
@R Nickerson i did watch the whole thing. did you? he ended up confessing because of the amounting evidence against him...... not because of the lady begging and crying for a confession like you people keep saying. so, please tell me the time stamp of the point where the lady begging and crying "worked" ???????? from what i saw, every time the lady begged and cried, the guy said absolutely nothing?
9 likesDetective Ray Reeves was spot on too.
0 likes@David - ah yes, because that evidence would meet the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt" required for a criminal conviction.
0 likes@David - you guys still copin?
3 likes@barnabyssjones I gave an example of reasonable doubt, if that’s “coping” I guess whatever you say I bet you still talking about trump right?
1 like@Fwomp also you/that YouTuber are arguing claims the prosecution and defense deny neither side said he had no fentanyl/ meth in his system, stop making up facts
1 likeYep she did well
0 likeswomen... amirite! theyre very talented. lol
0 likesI disagree. I found her annoying, emotional and over the top "obviously" manipulative. As a 40yr old, who has been around the block.
3 likesThis would be a massive Red Flag for me.
Plus......
NEVER EVER EVER..... Talk to any law enforcement without a lawyer. Under any circumstances. No if's but's or maybe's.
@Vic Construction you know they plan those out before hand right? That most likely was a calculated move on their part for her to act like that.
5 likes@Gene Buchanan yea and she was probably attractive too which has an affect as well
0 likes@Brian right. They knew his weaknesses. My guess is the asked around the restaurant and keyed in on what kind of a dude he was and used it against him.
3 likes@David - it's got nothing to do with movies. Interrogators don't go into an interrogation without a strategy.... that's literally their job. No one's dumping everyone agrees she's annoying but it worked.
3 likes@David - Agree bro these guys sound ridiculous.
1 likeAll the sexism in this thread......
6 likes@Susie Elaine Smith Where?
4 likes@Joe I too hate cops, but my main complaint is the sexism.
3 likes@Patrick Ross no you haven’t seen the one where he showed the woman was innocent being screamed at and accused of killing her husband but in reality he shot himself. She was almost jailed over this over confident cop.
2 likes@HoneyBeeAsher Videos
1 likeThat's why I said "most likely". I'm not blind to the fact that it can happen.
its all an act
0 likesI think the opposite. Begging like that kinda tells that they don't have anything if u think about it.
1 like@Tony Fkn B
0 likesNot really. Because regardless of the evidence they have, they still want the confession.
@Princeofcups Poc They’re not sociopaths at all. A lot of these detectives end up retiring after gruesome cases because of how mentally tolling it is on them
0 likesNo she was just annoying actually
2 likes@Feeds Maybe, that doesn't mean the tactic is ineffective. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that she knows what she's doing better than you or I.
2 likes@e- w- I'm going to ignore your comment because you have no proof to that. Toodles!
0 likesThat was an awful display and didn't help anything
0 likesWell she is a woman so makes sense
1 like(This is a joke please don’t harass me)
@ultraali453 do you know what manipulation is lmao
0 likes@Fallen Cobra then don't make it to begin with 😭
0 likes@David - Given how he reacted so far ruling out sociopathy seemed a pretty safe bet. And, in any case, how would she have ruined it? Are there tried and true methods to get a sociopath to admit his guilt that don't work anymore once the empathy route has been exhausted?
0 likes@Vic Construction FELLAS, Is it manipulative for a woman to plead and appeal to the humanity of a suspected murderer to provide honest information about the whereabouts of a corpse?
2 likesCrying and begging?
0 likesLmao wait, you think she was good at interview/interrogation? That? 😂
1 like@signoguns yep. Crying and begging. 29:53
0 likesShe seemed too emotional to me, 🤷🏼♀️
0 likesHave one for each open and shut case like this. To hell, if this will work on the innocent or framed. They would know better and would just evoke sagacious irritation.
0 likesTo Yeshua Sage: Have one for each open and shut case like this. To hell, if this will work on the innocent or framed. They would know better and would just evoke sagacious irritation.
0 likesNah she was emotional and shit if she was working by herself she wouldn't have any information from him i think because of her he started to push on him
1 like@Tim Anderson she forced a confession from a guilty man. How you came to your conclusion is beyond me.
0 likesThe horror of hearing his own internal dialogue, he feels only remorse for the fact he was caught. Her life is meaningless to him, he only feels bad for himself.
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funknotik I’m not entirely sure about that. He seems surprised, shocked, remorseful, disappointed and angry that a thing like this could happen.
65 likesIt’s logical that these emotions are directed towards himself, because she died in his hands.
Being sorry for her and being angry to himself are in a way two sides of the same medal. It appears he never planned to kill her but it happened nevertheless, and ever since he must have scrambled to make sense out what happened, rewinding the events in his head and wishing he could change the course of events. In that process, it makes more sense that the emotions are directed towards himself - the person who had the power to change the situation, who could and should have acted differently - and not towards the victim. You even see he briefly directs his anger and disappointment towards her in his rambling (exploring how things could have turned out if she acted differently), but soon corrected himself and redirected his anger and disappointment back towards himself.
Jim seems to interpret this as remorse for admitting, but to me it clearly seems remorse for getting in this situation in the first place. It must be a shock to find yourself in the position of being guilty of manslaughter. He didn’t have a life that gradually led up to this point, it’s an event that is completely alien, probably completely the opposite of anything he ever pictured living, and it’s completely self-inflicted.
Self defense is not a crime.
0 likesIt was pretty chilling when he was getting angry at her for getting him in trouble when he fucking killed her. What a creep.
16 likesSounds like amber Guyger
2 likesIt honestly just feels like he was talking out loud because he knew he was being recorded. He wanted people to think he’s still a good person
11 likesU P ....I thought that as well
1 like@marcolammers I'm not certain he's actually a murderer. Not even certain he's a killer. What I suspect is that he is familiar with the rapport of an abuser and didn't mind playing the part. I suspect that he doesn't mind fighting and will fight girls if they attack him with little regard for how much damage he might do unless he's very certain it will kill them. So, maybe he attacked her and it did so much damage she died. I don't think he meant for her to die, but he obviously didn't want anyone to find out as you can see per his breakdown.
2 likesI keep reading some of these comments in Jim's voice
0 likes@U P Yeah especially the "Fuck Savannah" part, right? Maybe next time instead of"what you feel like" is happening can be changed to "what you THINK" happened.
1 like@Fred For me, that part when he said 'Fuck Savannah', and it was so aggressive, told me a lot, and I was really surprised Jim didn't pause it there. I genuinely believe that was the turning point, where he realised he needed to watch what he said because he was being recorded, and went a 180 and the rest was a mix of acting and real emotions. That moment showed that rage is deep inside and even killing her didn't release it. "fuck savannah' to 'sorry savannah'. The first was real, the second bullshit. I'm right cos i'm always right about this kind of suff. :-)
2 likesLee cries in despair "I'm going to die in jail!" All these murderers were so cruel to their victims, taking away their lives, yet feel so sorry for themselves going to jail - alive. Narcissists
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I think life in prison is punishment in comparison to the death penalty
26 likesIkr like why do they think that people should have mercy on them when they literally killed someone🙄
27 likesYou noticed that too😏Probably cheers the children being taken at the border!But he can break a womans neck,cause he was trying to make something of himself.Lord help me!
6 likesTed Bundy feared death immensely.
20 likesI was pleased to hear him apologize to Savannah, say she was a nice person, etc. There's some shred of humanity in this garbage bucket.
19 likes@giuseppe nero I support the death penalty just to be rid of them for good.
5 likesMissMarvel no humanity. Just knows what to say to invoke sympathy for HIMSELF
7 likes@MissMarvel , thinking the same thing. He digressed in the very next statement, though. They were clearly arguing about stuff and he would likely lose his job. He correctly stated he should have walked away from the convo but he gave into a fit of rage. I believe he really did choke her to death in that car out of rage.
4 likesYou hear about these player types. He played, she got attached, he rejected her and was rude about it, and she obviously reacted negatively. Most situations, the drama cools down and people move on with their lives. But he would rather resort to violence to keep his job than admit he messed up at work.
This dosn't happen all at one time with one incident, this is a buildup through life with the wrong way of thinking... He would have carried that for a long time and of course whenever he had a problem to solve with someone it could be the solution again....
2 likesfifty years Jesus Christ.
0 likesWell duh! What did you expect? !!
0 likes@Edmond Taverdyan ...head movement
1 like@fifty years I train in jiu jitsu so I've been choked a lot, and I can confirm that it's a very personal thing. In order to actually kill somebody with strangulation you have to hold on to the choke for 2 minutes to completely kill off the brain. The fact that somebody could do that to somebody for that long is pretty terrifying
2 likes@giuseppe nero I so agree with you :-)
1 likei don't mind your sentiment, but it makes me wonder, if killing is so despicable, why do we glorify military? aren't they just a bunch of murderers in uniform, if you think about it.
2 likesEvelyne Loiterstein to be fair it’s more of a human emotion not just to criminals. You could be mother Theresa and you’ll cry for loosing your freedom
0 likesIts pathetic watching him cry.
1 likeTypical of violent little machos, capable to kill women but cry when have to face the consequences, hope he rots in jail.
2 likesI got a 23 year old daughter , and if anybody ever harmed her , they are not going to jail, i am
0 likesI dont think he meant to kill her, probably got so upset when she wouldnt retract her claims of their relationship and panicked he would lose his job and went into a fit of rage. It's not super hard to snap someones neck, he could have snapped it then panicked. I dont know though. I'm not defending him but I'm pretty sure most people have been in a situation at least once in their life where they snapped from anger. Although most of us can control that anger and wouldnt strangle someone else.
2 likesAm I the only one who feels zero empathy for him? He’s not crying because he killed her, his crying because he got caught. At the end of the day he is selfish man who killed a girl for the sake of keeping a job at a grill.
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It makes no sense as to why he would think the best option is to kill someone, and even more absurdly, to keep his job. He killed someone’s daughter for something that could’ve been resolved so easily, it is disgusting. I feel no sympathy for him.
192 likesEmpathy implies i can put myself in his shoes. Ive never seen a dead person let alone killed someone so i cant empathize with him. Do i have some level of understanding his situation and those kind of thoughts? Sure. Life gets outta hand and thoughts can run wild. To act on those kind of thoughts tho takes a different kind of person
90 likesIts both. He was crying because he was remorseful and the jail sentence.
48 likes@Darie Gheorghe they already had a relationship outside of work so that wouldn’t make much sense. them having a relationship was breaking the rules so i’m guessing he wanted to stop having that relationship.
41 likes@dawid oh, I thought all he said was lies. I though she put a stop to the relationship and he wanted to continue.
3 likes@Darie Gheorghe i don’t know, either way, i have no empathy for the man and i don’t understand him in the slightest
10 likesur not the the only one.
4 likesHe deserves the life sentence. He feels no remorse whatsoever for what he did. I would completely understand if he was just angry about it, most people would, but killing a person is absolutely heinous. I never feel empathy for monsters, and I am the type of person that's incensed when they see a kitten or puppy being treated poorly.
16 likesHe could have just broken up with her lmfao
8 likesi dunno. i think after getting past the frustration of being caught, releasing that tension of withholding information and having time to think about it and all he was remorseful of killing her, just not as much as he could have been
5 likes31:48 is where he admits she didn't get out the car.
4 likesHe is only crying because he got caught, he has zero remorse. you hear him say "fucking Savanna" aggressively which shows he is blaming her for what he did. a few minutes later you hear him say sorry savanna but i think its because he realised the cameras where there. he is evil and I have no empathy for a psycho like that.
19 likesno shit
0 likesI’m surprised no one is entertaining the idea that lee probably didn’t intend to kill savannah in that backseat, but rather reacted to a scuffle that resulted in a bad ending, due to him being way stronger than her and her putting up a good fight. Basically, if there was a physical altercation, initiated by her or not, he should have gotten out of that car. You can snap the human neck like a twig within seconds if the right pressure is applied
5 likes@JT she tried to get out of the car 3 times! he knew what he was doing, it wasn't an accident and I don't think it's nice to be victim blaming by saying she might have initiated it! They were talking through the window for 14 minutes and then it seems like he convinced her to get in the back seat and not long after the car was shaking and the door violently opened 3 times. He didn't want people knowing about their affair, it definitely seems like he planned this or already had thoughts of harming her.
21 likesYou’re not the only one. I feel the need to mention what he did to her body after he killed her. He went to great lengths to hide her body. So let’s say he did kill her bc he felt backed into a corner. Like he thought he was going to loose his job and she egged him on more about it when she was in the car. Well then he kills her and tries to cover it up instead of calling to get her medical attention or calling the police. Let’s not forget he sent text messages to her parents and brother trying to make them believe she had run away with a boyfriend. It’s all so extreme. He might have some remorse when it hit him that this was the most extreme option and the dumbest one. There’s no justifying this solution to his problem. So I think he is mostly upset at realizing how stupid he was to decide to kill her AND try to cover it up. He realizes he has not future anymore and for what ? He realizes it’s not a good enough reason to loose everything. He doesn’t really seem to stop and say things like “I took her life and her future away.” He says things about how he can’t ever wear his chef’s coat again and how he won’t be making anything out of himself. It’s 99% about him and I’ll give him that last 1% for her.and that’s me being generous…
6 likes@Cleo you are right 👍
0 likesI like the 645 up votes and 0 down.
0 likesHe is crying because his life is over....he felt he was going places and now he is not....he actually had a decent life.....mgr/chef etc.....oh well....
3 likesI don’t think anyone here has any sympathy for him.
2 likes@dawid Drugs? A desire to kill? Unless its in self defense, I cant fathom how murdering someone, burning their body and dumping them is something any sane person can resort to, much less think of.
0 likes@dawid A fit of rage aided by drugs? A drsire to murder? What was it.
1 like@Melissa Mahoney “she was nice to you”
0 likes@Melissa Mahoney Dude must have been high as hell to think that was the only option.
0 likes@dawid he should have just stopped seeing her and looked for a different job
0 likes@CorrugatedLadder Exactly, he must’ve just be out of his mind or mentally sick
0 likeshe is crying because he realized he made a grave mistake which may of only been bc he got caught but he definitely feels some kind of remorse, but it doesn't mean he shouldnt pay for his crimes
1 likeI think you mean sympathy, not empathy. Empathy is something one feels being in or putting oneself in the place of another, sympathy is something one feels for another's separate state of being. Unless you think everyone else had killed someone or imagines having done so. Also, I don't think anyone feels anything but disgust for him.
1 likeYou are not alone. He murdered that girl. Why should anyone feel sorry for him?
0 likesUltimately the detectives were able to reach his good nature and he confessed. Psychopaths and Sociopaths don't ever confess - they will go on endlessly with their lies no matter how much evidence is against them. Lee Rodarte obviously felt remorse in this video, not just for actually confessing and realizing that his life is more or less ruined, but also for killing her. But with that said, I was disappointed that he ultimately plead not-guilty and tried to come up with a BS self-defense narrative. I am a strong believer in life for life justice, if you take a life without a justifiable cause you forfeit your own. But I also believe that surviving victims should have some say as to the punishment - it shouldn't be solely up to a judge or jury. Some murders are reprehensible: showing no remorse for their crimes, lying and deceiving others until they die naturally in their cell. Others own up to their mistakes, express true remorse, plead guilty, and take responsibility for their actions. If the surviving victims can show forbearance and mercy to this kind of person and support a non-death sentence, or even support a fairly light prison sentence, I think that should be allowed.
0 likes@JT You’re really victim blaming when this dude is probably half her size? There is no way she could’ve put up a fight for him to accidentally kill her. Besides the video tape shows a struggle where the door swings 3 times, whether or not she initiated it things ended up wrong on his end and he went too far. It’s really disgusting how you could go as far as to say the victim in this situation would do something like that.
0 likes@ Lucas you are correct. I meant I sympathy , got my words mixed up.
0 likesI have empathy for him.. I even cried when I saw him react the way he did afterwards.
4 likesYou guys are looking way too much from the eyes of law and society morals than actual human suffering in my opinion.
It reminds me of the story about the angry man spitting in Buddhas face.
@Emil Sahlin Why would you have sympathy for a murderer? You got some issues…
0 likes@Riann You can clearly see that he regrets everything.
3 likesMurderer, not a murderer, guilty, not guilty, evil, or not evil.
These are just words, claims, kind of prefabricated ideas of how to feel about a person,
but his remorse is real.
He seems like a fellow man that has happened to follow his insticts in the wrong situations.
That's what I see, and thats why I cried.
I don't feel sympathy for him either but I do think he's crying because he feels guilty. When the detectives leave, he does cry out and apologize to Savannah. So, as others have mentioned, I think it's both, he's remorseful and does not want to go to jail.
0 likes@WittyUsernamehere To me he’s crying because he got caught and doesn’t want to spend the rest of his life in jail. Nobody would want that and godammit I would cry too but that still doesn’t help his case. This dude has absolutely 0 remorse for Savannah cause if he did he would’ve confessed and not have lied. He also said he was not guilty and continued to lie and say it was self defense. So yeah no he has absolutely 0 sympathy from me.
1 likeLol and theres meeaving my new job every 4 months haha not a big deal for me liffe
0 likes@Riann I wish I understood why you replied to me even though we're pretty much on the same page but that's okay, you can do that if you want.
1 likeTo me he’s crying because he got caught and doesn’t want to spend the rest of his life in jail.
Yes, I would agree. If you re-read my comment, I did say that.
Nobody would want that and godammit I would cry too but that still doesn’t help his case.
Whether it helps his case or not is irrelevant. He's in jail for 40 years and that's all there is to it.
This dude has absolutely 0 remorse for Savannah cause if he did he would’ve confessed and not have lied.
I disagree. He does apologize to Savannah at the end indicating that he does feel some remorse for it. Also, the prospect of ending up in jail probably isn't thrilling him (nor would it me or you, as you mentioned before) and so therefore is trying to come up with stories, rationalizations and justifications so that he does not end up in jail. In the past, have you ever been caught doing something that you shouldn't have? If so, was your immediate reflex to confess to it right then and there or did you try to feign innocence? When faced with the prospect of life in jail, wouldn't you try to get out of that if possible?
He also said he was not guilty and continued to lie and say it was self defense.
It would not be the first time such a scenario occured in a similar situation. He's not a good guy and he killed someone. I think it's rather naive of anyone to expect he'd suddenly become a model citizen and be honest with himself and everyone around.
So yeah no he has absolutely 0 sympathy from me.
Once again, I don't know why you're wasting your time telling me this, I 100% agree with you on that one.
Nah he’s sad about both man he even apologizes to her (yes I know she’s dead but he still says he’s sorry)
1 likeAlso yea how tf I’m supposed to empathize I ain’t a killer
0 likesHe's crying cause he's going to prison
0 likesAt bonefish grill though, best fish in town, no lies.
0 likes@WittyUsernamehere Sorry I didn’t mean to reply to you
0 likes@Anti Human he wasn't crying because he was remorseful he literally said I'm going to jail this is horrible then started crying
0 likesyep
0 likes@Riann Just got owned🤣🤣🤣🤡
0 likes@Melissa Mahoney good spot
0 likes@Immadiveint Bruh I was trying to rely to someone else, plus we were on the same page about it so no I didn’t get owned
0 likesIt might be an accident snapping neck happens during fight.
0 likesI don't think it was just the grill, Chelsea little evil witch had a lot more to do with this crap. She went to his house that evening and after he confessed n was alone he said " fng Chelsea fng Chelsea
0 likesThis reminds me of that girl who killed the other girl because the victim knew she stole a pair of shoes at her work and she wanted to keep her job.
0 likesHe is crying because he is realising what is coming next - not being free person. But this is a small price to pay for a whole life taken.
0 likesAs someone with ADHD I would seem guilty 100% of the time if interrogated. I over explain everything.
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Saaaaaaame 😂😂😂😂
12 likesYyyooooo same
3 likesI do that too but I don’t think I have ADHD, just socially awkward and nervous anxiety.
49 likesFacts I head that and was like uh man cops assume all most non NT reactions are guilty, these vids alway say something that I’d be fucked lol
9 likesSounds more like you have a guilty conscience.
0 likes@Eternal Reign I don't. I have a disability the limits my inhibition. Especially in anxious situations like an interrogation. So I would go into weird details like the fact I have to get extra wide shoes now since most shoe companies are making their shoes more and more narrow as the years go on
26 likesbulldoggamer omg same
0 likesSame
0 likesbulldoggamer my daughter does that by the time she gets to the point I’ve lost interest I’m working on being more accepting of this but sometimes it’s hard
8 likesIt doesn't matter how you behave, if at the same time there's no good evidence it was you.
0 likesJust wanted to say I love your avatar picture Bulldoggamer.
0 likesSpeaking of being found guilty and whatnot - if you ever find yourself in a situation and they want you to take a lie detector test, DONT DO IT!!! There was this insane guy some yrs back who would NOT leave me alone, and even though I told him I had zero interest in him, he claimed I was cheating on him when I wd hang out w/ other ppl, etc etc (even though we weren't together, he claimed that since he liked me, I was more or less automatically his).. anyway, I made a deal w him. I wd take a lie detector test and when it came out that I was being truthful abt everything (there were a lot of CRAZY accusations), he wd HV to go away and never speak to me again. He agreed. The old man who gave me the test was asking me questions abt whether or not I'd been with other guys, and I had been with one (my ex-bf who I wanted back) but since I wasn't dating anyone, it wasn't cheating. You can't give details though, you can only say yes or no. No matter what, "yes" or "no". And he asked me all these questions abt sex, which I am timid speaking abt w/ strangers (especially old man) so I was really nervous and uncomfortable (it didn't help that I was hooked up w/ a bunch of wires all over me). Anyway, results came back that I was lying, when I was 100% honest!! I will NEVER trust a lie detector test again, and I recommend none of you do either! If you're uncomfortable, nervous, embarrassed, anything like that, your heart rate increases and you'll get false results! They do NOT detect lies! I watched an episode of 'Adam Ruins Everything" on lie detector tests that explains why they shdnt be trusted far better than I cd!!! Highly recommend the episode, I highly do NOT recommend lie detector tests, lol!
3 likes@Sunday Mourning lol. You watch way too much tv.
2 likes@MeJane oh the contrary..If she did, she would be better informed and her whole fictionalized story wld sound more plausible
2 likesI don't have ADHD but I over explain everything.
0 likesWhich is why you should get a lawyer.
0 likesOmg bro I would like give away my entire history
1 likePlease elaborate...
1 like@Anders Anderson well let's say my alibi was that I went over to my friend Mike's house. I would probably go into details about who mike is, how we met, what he does for a living, a funny story about us.
1 likebulldoggamer Seriously though, I hope he has a nice time in prison. What a prick.
0 likesbulldoggamer 🤣 I don’t even have It and I over explain things, Lol!
0 likeslmao. as someone with social anxiety, i'd be scared that they'd think i'm guilty if i appear nervous, which would only make me appear more nervous.
0 likes@So I says to the guy, I says to him, I says, ugh me toooo. It sucks!
0 likesMe too. In highschool English class we were told to start a short story. Most kids put down 3 or 4 sentences. I had half a page because I described everything in vivid detail. My teacher actually pulled me aside and told me I needed to learn to get to the point, that she requested a short story not a novel. I stopped going to class the next day lmao. I was so butthurt.
1 likeI do the same shit. I just want to set the record so much straight that I eventually end up explaining string theory when asked what's the weather outside. I'd be sent to jail after five minutes of being innocent.
0 likesI do too!! Word vomiting is my thing.
0 likesThat self defense argument is hindered if you also hid the body and lied to the police afterwards. The number of injuries on her body will also be inconsistent with his account of simply defending himself by accidently popping her neck. Prosecutors will argue that this goes against the medical evidence as well as the camera footage which will show a struggle with the car door opening 3 times. The fact that he got out, slashed her tires then texted the family also damns his case.
254 likesProsecutors will have a field day with this one.
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D3ath Raz0r ——I thought the texts to Savannah’s Family was a particularly cruel thing to do.
34 likesYeah, I doubt he'll get out of this, but depending on what he said in the confession, the defense could potentially try to "explain" hiding/burning the body and lying, with being scared about losing his job, having/using/selling drugs and depression making him irrational. I'm not too sure how well they got to understand her injuries, since she was 75% burned, but no bones were broken. Anyhow, his depression+her trying to get him fired (according to him)+her being on drugs (paranoid) and attacking him relentlessly+him losing his temper could be used. The door opening could be explained with a number of things, like him opening it and her refusing to leave. Slashing the tire could be used as a "heat of the moment" -thing for "ruining his life". And the texts seem to have been written in panic, arguing against premeditation, unless of course he's just dyslexic, or an education denialist.
9 likesThought the same, couldn't have said it better myself. The first thing that came to mind when the video concluded was "wow this guy is just a complete piece of garbage and that was the worst, most fabricated defense I've ever heard."
5 likesif you did kill someone by accident you'd go from the heat of the moment to pure shock and panic. you''d try to fix the situation as fast as possible. You'd be calling an ambulance as fast as possible. The amount of Adrenaline going through your body and the sudden shock and fear for losing that/a person will override your senses and your mind wouldn't be thinking about 'am i going to get the blame for this' its not important to you at that time. the person who's life is ebbing away in front of you is...
6 likesBaychimo I think your argument is hindered by the fact he stole her phone and used it to text her father and brother. The fact he tried to gaslight the family into believing she ran away proves (IMO) that he was of sound mind. The texts were somewhat coherent and I can’t imagine another motive than to appease the family while her body is burned/scattered.
13 likesAbsolute field day.
Edit: Millions of people deal with depression and sudden unemployment all the time without murdering and attempting to cremate a coworker.
@Giocommentary lol dont assume everyone is like you.... plenty of cases that suggest otherwise
1 likeSadly the defense attorneys have to have some argument for their client; i have a feeling the penalty for pleading guilty would have been steeper than fighting the non guilty plea, and they had to fabricate this argument based on that.
2 likesIts part of the show, and no one buys it but the client will likely get about 80 years in prison for the argument versus 100.
@Herpa Derpa i'm talking about someone dear to you, you'd do anything to save a loved one or a great friend wouldn't you? and i'm talking about an actual accident so for example due to a bit of a struggle he/she slipped or hit his/her head. and i'm not, i'm just stating what a normal emotional response would be. did i say ''If it happened to me' no. Everyone is different comparing myself would be useless. stating what would be an expected emotional response is not.
0 likes@Herpa Derpa don't you Assume i Assumed okay! :P
0 likes@Giocommentary lol i would yes.... but there are plenty of stories where people do leave what you would think they consider a loved one. A somewhat recent story that comes to my mind is the 4wheeler crash in Nebraska, where a guy left his girlfriend dead in a ditch after a crash and just drove home... drunk or not still fucked up
1 like@Herpa Derpa thats indeed pretty f'ed up^^'
1 like@KingofHearts I'm just speculating, not trying to make solid arguments. The texts seem to show that he tried to cover up the deed, but that doesn't mean he was "all there". The fact that he thought sending the texts, which sounded and looked like a 5 year old had written them, could be used to show that he was in a panic or even a bit slow. There are levels of depression and they affect people differently. "Mild" and "severe" are two different animals, and the latter can make an otherwise rational person do and say some dark things. You insert drugs/alchohol into the mix (and maybe spin that to be related to childhood abuse etc) and someone threatening to take away one's income (as he claimed she did), and you got a bomb. Like I said, I absolutely don't think he will walk, but there are a lot of things that they could try to use, in order to get less years.
0 likesJudy Wright
0 likesAbsolutely agree if that was his intent.
Instead, it seems he’s so stupid he thought they would actually buy it.
Brilliant strategy after he slashed her tire in front of her place of employment 🤦🏻♂️
But “You were going places, Lee.”
@Mellow Yello Normally, pleading guilty would result in a reduced sentence, and defense could argue for mitigation in order to try to get their client a lower sentence, but Im pretty sure that the only options here are either plead self defense or plead manslaughter, cus aint no way in hell you can get mitigation if its murder. You are sentenced for life. I guess theyre going for broke with the hopes of a full acquittal, which is only afforded to self defense. But it wont work. Self defense is based on use of reasonable force, and the evidence demolishes that as its clear hes lying. Too many injuries, too long a struggle, too much difference between strength of the parties involved. No one will buy it. Shouldve tried for manslaughter, arguing that there had not been any malice aforethought in the scruffle or perhaps some sort of diminished responsibility due to drug use or something. Although my analysis is purely based on UK law and my local law which is based off of UK and french law. I dont know jack shit about US or Canadian laws
1 like@D3ath Raz0r it also goes without saying that i (nor yourself) do not have access to whatever the attorneys are saying, to whatever the judge is allowing, to what the stipulations are by the prosecutor, etc.
0 likesI was just spitballing out there
Imagine literally ending someone’s life and then crying for yourself and how YOUR life won’t go anywhere now.....I have less than zero sympathy for this dude
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Wow man, you're so brave, good job.
27 likesIt was a smeagol and gollum moment. He hated himself for what he had done and regretted it, but with no chance for redemption the idea of being a good person, a normal chef or anything at all was gone.
45 likesThere’s a chance he really did make her neck go pop during a heated argument. This is why people shouldn’t lay hands on one another, especially if there’s a nearly 100 lb weight difference
11 likesWell he also shed some tears for her saying “I’m so sorry Savannah”
12 likesBeside, in such a situation we all would be first concerned about our own life... that’s ingrained in our nature.
You can't imagine his state of mind. It's not like when you do something immoral that your own reality becomes any less real or important to you.
6 likesAll these murder apologists in your replies, dear GOD
8 likesSarah No wow it’s almost as if even murderers have emotions too... no one is apologising for his murder or saying what he did is ok but you can recognise he does exhibit emotions lmao
1 like@Brianna Waldorf yeah obviously.......I was saying it’s gross how he can cry for himself but not for the life he stole, nobody is shocked he has emotions
3 likes@Atmos omg you’re so edgy and cool for that snarky reply! Having empathy for murder victims is totes lame
0 likes@Brianna Waldorf THANK you. They're shitty people, but they're people nonetheless. Murder has been a pretty common activity for the entirety of our species' existence, and all of a sudden if you murder someone, you aren't a human at all.
0 likes@Sarah No It's not about being an apologist, it's about acknowledging that this is a natural part of the behavior of our species. WHY do you think it's an everyday thing?? You think every other person is a piece of shit mistake, that the universe had a bad day when it made him? Or maybe his mentality, environmental factors, and the most toxic culture in existence played a part in this? Maybe she was a victim but in another light so is he? The world isn't black and white. There aren't just "Good People" and "Apologists".
0 likesLess than zero? 1 percent, sure, maybe even 0, but plenty of people have done worse than him and shown no remorse at all of any kind. At least he realized that he was wrong somehow. There are other videos on this channel of murderers and would be murderers who actually seem to believe that they were justified in every way.
0 likes@awesomeferret He.......killed someone.....?
0 likes@Sarah and showed some type of regret for at least part of the situation, unlike others featured on this very channel. Why are you lumping him in with people who truly don't understand that they did something wrong, even if the regret is for selfish reasons? Again, 0 or 1 percent sympathy, sure. But there are murderers out there that show no emotion at all throughout the entire process and you seem to be acting as if these people don't exist. There is a scale of horrifically horrible people and this guy is pretty horrifically horrible, but you seem to be saying he's the worst possible, and this very channel pretty much disproves that. What about the guy featured on this channel who murdered his pregnant wife and kids because he had an affair? You seem like you're willing to view that guy and this guy equally, but the guy who killed his kids and wife showed much less regret and took more lives...
0 likes@awesomeferret What you’re not understanding is that someone who takes another person’s life away doesn’t deserve even 1 percent of sympathy (unless they needed to defend themselves or something like that) and honestly it’s weird that you care so much that I don’t have a tiny bit of sympathy for a man who killed someone who certainly didn’t deserve to die
0 likes@Sarah well, we can agree to disagree. I care enough about human life that I think body counts matter. I'm actually confused about how you think killing multiple kids and a pregnant wife is not worse than killing one person. They are both horrible, and they both deserve life in prison. But to compare the two as exact equals? If enough people shared your opinion, don't you think it would help to desensitize people to murder? And if you think I "care so much" (he's a cold blooded killer after all and got what he deserved) then you've misread me, I really don't care very much at all, I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from on this.
0 likes@awesomeferret When did I EVER say anything about someone killing their pregnant wife and kids?? I never said anything about the number of people someone kills, you just assumed I think that? Obviously killing multiple people is even worse but if someone kills even one innocent person, they don’t deserve sympathy
0 likes@Sarah then why are you heavily implying otherwise? I never said that you said anything about the wife and kids(???), I brought that up as an example of how your comments may be making you seem like you think that someone murdering more people is not any worse. Glad to see that you apparently don't stand by that. I suggest rewarding some of your comments because it sure looked like you did think that, hence my questions.
0 likes@awesomeferret “I never said you said anything about the wife and kids” In an earlier comment you LITERALLY SAID
0 likes“I’m actually confused about how you think killing multiple kids and a pregnant wife is not worse than killing one person”
Also, I did go back and read my comments and I never implied anything about the number of people murdered being more or less severe. Literally all I said was that people who murder don’t deserve sympathy. This is the strangest interaction I think I’ve ever had in the comments of a video lmao
@Sarah if you don't understand what your comments are implying then I don't think there's much use continuing this. Have a nice day.
0 likesHe wasn’t going anywhere before he killed her...what a waste.
0 likesYe like "CRY ME A RIVER BITCH"
0 likes@Sarah I'm very very curious: do you think this woman deserves negative zero sympathy too? Her parents heavily abused her, after all. And for clarification, when I pointed out that I never said that you said anything about the wife and kids, this was true. You were IMPLYING opinions about the wife and kids. That was my entire point, you don't seem to realize the alternative ways that your comments here can IMPLY things that you may not intend and didn't actually say (I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened to me with my comments too). I admit, I erred and should have said "I'm confused about how you APPEAR to think" not, "I'm confused about what you think". My apologies if I made this unneccecarily confusing. https://youtu.be/UQt46gvYO40
0 likes@awesomeferret I do sympathize with her a little bit more because she was brought up by very cold and unloving parents and she was controlled and emotionally abused. That being said, lots of people grow up in homes like that and they don’t murder their parents, they grow up and get themselves out of that situation. The girl from that video was told by her parents she could either be cut off or stay under their control, so it’s not like she thought murder was the only way to escape her abuse (like in the case of Gypsy Rose). But yeah, those kinds of cases in my opinion deserve a little more sympathy. This guy’s situation wasn’t even close to that though
0 likes@Sarah that was my entire point all along. My apologies that it took me so long to explain it properly. I see we do not disagree after all (not that it would be a bad thing if we did).
1 like@Sarah So it isn't the act of murder that's bad because under the right circumstances it's good? That's what you're saying, right? so it's not the action, but the intent, or maybe the circumstances? We are of the most violent of mammals, our evolutionary tree murders for breakfast. Or fun. Or food. Or territory. Or the right to mate. Or boredom. Killing isn't unnatural or exclusive to monsters, it's in your DNA just like his. Literally everything, every organism murders. Our country doesn't care about justice, it's the illusion of justice, by means of revenge. And it doesn't hurt that the prison system is basically entirely an industry that is privatized and for-profit. Hell, every life sentence, for a natural action, or even a mistake, is a human being sold into slavery for life. That's what it is. And it depends on people like you, thinking the way you do. I'm not trying to make you feel bad or single you out, cause it's most people that agree with you. I just want awareness brought to this subject because it's a lot worse than a one-off killer here and there.
0 likes@✿MJF✿ I believe I've been clear enough, if you don't agree that's understandable.
0 likes@dslkjvoxicuyhgl I agree that the prison system needs a lot of reform, other than that you’re not going to convince me that murdering people is fine lol. In most cases there’s no excuse for taking someone’s life, it’s an incredibly selfish act. It’s not our right as human beings to make the decision to do that. Obviously the world isn’t black and white and not EVERY murder case is the same, but in THIS guy’s case he had zero reason to resort to killing that girl. He could have done a million things before resorting to that, it’s selfish and I don’t have sympathy for him. All along that’s all I was saying but people seemed to think I meant every single murder instance ever should be seen exactly the same as this guy’s. I’m obviously able to acknowledge nuances but I’m still never going to agree that the act of murder is overall fine and normal, or that he deserves sympathy for doing something like that. I’d rather save my sympathy for the girl whose life was ended by someone who had no right to take it away, and for her poor family. Human beings aren’t mindless creatures that act on instinct and don’t know right from wrong. In THIS instance, that guy knew full well that he didn’t have to kill her and that it was wrong, and if he never got caught I truly don’t think he’d be crying. That’s why he was able to stay calm and cool while lying to police about what happened. He’s crying for himself and I don’t find that worthy of sympathy
0 likesThe part where he whines to himself, "You were supposed to make something of your life, Lee!" Well, y'know, not killing Savannah would have been a wise choice. I managed to make it through life without killing anyone. It's pretty easy not to kill.
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Easy not to kill? Lol
9 likesYou aren’t through with life yet
29 likesomg,clearly you’ve never dated a woman!…Jk I suppose it’s a bit of an over reaction
14 likesHow old are you?
0 likesIt’s pretty easy to kill, too.
2 likes@Maria Margot Why do you censor the word “murder”?
15 likesWell clearly you have an easier life than many. Not saying I've ever killed anyone but won't say I never will either. Anything could happen at any given moment. I myself aim to live my life without ever killing anyone, but won't hesitate if it ever comes down to that... mostly referring to protecting/in the worst case scenario avenging a close person of mine. Particularly any future children I hope to one day have!
4 likes@Hushe because Maria should sift through every comment and reply? Lol what sort of dumb argument is that?
15 likes@Lost LexXx Not according to Chris Watt
1 likeOr working at "bonefish grill".
0 likes@Maria Margot how fun are you in general?
2 likesWho said anything about him "Having" to be looking out for your feelings?
Sheesh how entitled are you? Smfh
@Max Thompson who said my feelings were affected at all? no lecture was given. just saying it wasn’t really all that funny. cope.
7 likes@Maria Margot I thought it was funny. Judge me oh mighty Maria
2 likes@Max Thompson hahaha you’re so tilted
9 likes@Flim 7\ she was first to get tilted so yea, am good fam.
2 likes@Max Thompson i never knew that feeling good leads to insulting people. Lol
0 likes@Flim 7\ I always aim to return a well needed favor 😁
0 likes@Max Thompson if that’s what the ego tells you, so be it.
4 likes@Max Thompson lol cringe
8 likes@Flim 7\ it was the super - ego but what ever fits your cup.
0 likes@Enzo Meneses no
0 likes@Max Thompson i don’t think the reaction of insulting people is rational, thus it isn’t super ego at all.
0 likes@Flim 7\ define "your" interpretation of an insult in this instance, if you will... 🤔
0 likesThats cause you havnt been to nam!
0 likes@Maria Margot yes it is
0 likes@Max Thompson
2 likesI use the definition of insult as my “interpretation”.
@Max Thompson keep seething over strangers on the internet, ig
1 like@Flim 7\ I asked her how "fun" she was. And how entitled she felt she was. 😏
2 likesAs she was so quick to judge others for that exact reason.
I laid this comment before some people of varying backgrounds.
Nobody could find said insult... So where is it then? Lol
@Richella River I'm pretty sure these Strangers didn't ask you to jump in.
1 likeThey can speak for themselves, thank you.
@dennis dupuis Hey O.J. here. It happens
0 likes@Maria Margot I smell a karen..
1 like@Maria Margot Why'd you censor "murder"?
0 likes@Maria Margot you're lucky this guy was joking and not one of the many that are dead serious about that feeling
0 likes@Christopher Atkins are you ok?
1 like@GOOGOL A predictable response. I'm not sure how much value there is in detailing my position to you. Suffice it to say that this man was born with different innate qualities to your own and was also raised differently. "It's pretty easy not to kill." No, not for everyone. What is the point of asserting your superiority?
2 likes@Christopher Atkins im guessing your a narcissistic person? You sound like you were raised to believe that your actions can be forgiven depending on your background and how you are raised.. Also im assuming you were in this position before? Maybe you need help?
2 likes@Christopher Atkins also if you feel threatened thats your own problem. Im only curious why you took the side of this arguement that you did. I can tell your smart so tell me more.
1 like@GOOGOL No. There is a margin between forgiveness and understanding. I understand his actions, or at least try to, but I don't believe he should be forgiven.
0 likesOn every one of these videos there is inevitably a very popular comment expressing some form of truism: "Well, he could have just not," or, "I would never..." Good for you. Consider yourself lucky not to have been born a person with the potential to do this.
Also, thanks for the internet diagnosis.
@GOOGOL Most people appear to operate under the premise that the mind is a blank slate, and that the individual is the sole agent of their own life: what they do, and what they become. While I think this philosophy is helpful when applied to the self, it breaks down when analyzing the other. It's almost as though some people believe that if they were that criminal, they would not have committed the crime because they would have chosen differently. This makes no sense, and the shallow judgments made on this premise infuriate me.
0 likes@Christopher Atkins alright thanks on your side of the coin.
0 likesStill plenty of time for that, buddy. I bet Lee Rodarte would have said the EXACT same thing not too long ago.
0 likes@Christopher Atkins thanks for this enlighten and actually refreshing view on this whole matter.
0 likesIts not like everyone is born with the "warrior gene".
@james sutcliffe Ha ha ha, made my day!
0 likesThe full interrogation is on here now
0 likesDetective: How long do you know savannah?
0 likeslee: hold on buddy, whats the rush,
So it starts with when the whole universe was a size of a pen's tip.
Is this man ever going to make any new videos
0 likesMale detective "oh ok" . The translation " do you need a shovel to keep digging that hole you've made for yourself?"
0 likesBeen on a binge. Wondering if I’m ready to berry the misses in the garden yet. 😂🇦🇺
1 likeDid JCS change the title of this video recently? I swear it was always something like "The case of Lee Rodarte"
1 likeI hope he doesn't get a discount (parole) and get it's full sentence
0 likesHonestly even if his bullshit story was true I still don’t think it would be fair to give him the same treatment this example of humanity at it’s lowest deserves humanity it it’s lowest
0 likesAmazing content btw.
0 likesAt least he knew it was his last time wearing that coat
0 likesLast time I get to wear a chef coat. As a fellow chef this hurts
0 likesInterrogation Room has really really good 🎤 🎙 it’s pick up every single piece every single word every single things even scratching your head.
0 likesPlease I’m begging you do our job for us because we are clueless. Why would this guy just not ask for a lawyer and tell that woman to go away
0 likesMaybe they didn't release the footage because he urinated during his confession. Just look at the puddle coming from under his chair after 33:48
1 likeThat male detective is on the first 48 ,I believe .
0 likesWhy do they never have lawyers?
0 likesThe woman detective is the star of this interrogation.
0 likesit was very satisfying seeing his crybaby ass breakdown at the end
0 likesHe was a ladies man, now he's gonna be the lady in the slammer.
1 likeHe’s really dropping the ball.
0 likesYou do the crime, you do the time.
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unless you never get caught
0 likes@sneed hahaha 🤣
0 likesGuilty - sentenced to 40 years March 11, 2021.
0 likes"I'm begging you. Tell us. Where is she. Tell us." The naggy wife method of police work.
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Your BF the same way huh
0 likesThe first cop took his apron, when did he get it back?
0 likesThese breakdowns are phenomenal…
0 likesI know this guy is a killer, but whatever happened to
0 likesI...Want...A...Lawyer...
Does no one lawyer up?
who would have ever thought there would be cameras in a plaza parking lot?
0 likeswhy arrent you uploading annymore? really ''enjoy'' your content, the annalysis are verry intresting and make you the best in these sorts of contend. to bad i have seen all your vids already....
0 likesThat shaking right leg is driving me nuts. Guess I'm paranois.
0 likesDelusions of grandeur that the glorified line cooks at bonefish grill are "chefs".
1 likeFemale cop is completely over the top.
0 likesEveryone whose seen James Duane’s lecture be like “this guy is screwed”
0 likesI watch this over and over for some reason...
0 likesPlz post more 🙏
0 likesthis guy reminds me of the girl from the 'Jennifer's Solution' video, the way they draw it out is so silly
0 likesNever. Speak. Without. A. Lawyer. In. The. Room!
4 likesI'm so tired of pretty young girls being murdered...
0 likesOne lie needs multiple to cover the first then blows out from there 🇦🇺👍
0 likesdetective: one day when you have kids.....
0 likessuspect: .........
That Adderall did the job
3 likesIm not defending this guy but I have been in this situation....if you did nothing wrong be a song bird....if you.messed up your on your own
0 likesHow many of these psychopaths featured on this channel happen in Florida?
0 likesThe female detective having that pleading and almost teary tone in her voice just a ploy?
0 likesim glad atleast one video is back. im sorry JCS
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There's more now, as I comment
0 likesFREE J C S
0 likesthey won't release that footage because more than likely they did something to get him to confess and he could have argued his was out of the charges.
0 likes"So how did you know Savannah? "
0 likesWell, first thing that happened was God created the universe. "
HE COULD BE CHEF AT JAIL
1 likeStill baffles me that people talk to the police without a lawyer. Crazy
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same people who don’t know their rights
13 likes@xtdycxtfuv it's literally in the miranda rights that is read. They just don't listen.
3 likesI literally just heard of D-K yesterday, 2x in 24 hrs, weeeiiirrrddddd.
0 likesbecause they have a conscience
0 likes@Joseph Cooper Yes, and with so many stories of the innocent getting railroaded, it should not reflect a sign of guilt.
8 likesThe interrogators are after the best use of their time, and no time to consider innocence.
Learned my lessons from these interrogations - you can get nabbed in confusion even though an innocent bystander.
@Jack Benton Sir this is a Wendy's
7 likeswait whose side you on
2 likesMan I know it’s crazy.
0 likesJack Benton DB Cooper and the Clinton’s
0 likesDaniel Garrett then you sit there and don’t say shit to anyone lol 😑
3 likesClassic "I can do this shit" when they're guilty right off the bat.
0 likesguilty people a lot of times don't want to appear guilty, and they think getting an attorney is going to make them look bad. some people think they can talk their way out of anything.
0 likesJack Wright it is about money of course.. lawyer consulting costs a lot!
1 likeJack Wright People are guilty as soon as they are charged, not after Kangaroo court. Dispense with the court procedure and save taxpayers money. There maybe one out of millions of people that are truly innocent But most are guilty. Worth it taking the chance.
1 likeFemale detective needs to go back to school.
3 likeswhat a piece of work....
0 likesSociety whats your name?
0 likesLee: ohh I'm glad you ask its a really interesting story
bruh, usually at my workplace, they'll call me if i'm late- if i don't answer, they call my emergency contact, which is my mum
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and they will do this even 5 minutes after i'm meant to be in
0 likesThey're back!!!!! Thankyou JCS!!
0 likesImagine killing someone because you worry about your job at the fucking bonefish grill
0 likesHe confessed to stop her whining and pleading.
0 likesIs there no blood detected inside his car? Even it is wiped, it should be detected.
0 likes“One day when you have kids…” who gon tell him?
0 likesFlorida is off the hook! Some really interesting people living and breeding there. The place needs to be its own island detached from the US!
0 likesif your name is lee, that should be kinda like a red flag to investigators
0 likesAren’t people offered lawyers during an interrogation in the states?
0 likesAt the end, he is not remorseful for killing her. Only for himself, that he is going to prison and messed his life up. Normal people don't kill others to save their job as a cook.
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I think some part of him really felt bad. In those moments when he's freaking out he apologizes to her. That's real emotion. Not saying he's not a piece of shit.
60 likesFairly simple to just not fraternize with each other. I realize it’s easy to do, but if you’re that worried about losing your job, follow the rules 🤷🏻♀️
4 likes@Meagan Koenning Nah. He knows he is being filmed and wants to appear innocent and remorseful.
25 likesHe is currently appealing on stand your ground laws, trying to trash her memory by saying she was on drugs and attacked him first. Autospy report indicates no drugs found in her system.
he wants the job bad, that's why he kill someone. He need a pay rise for being dedicated. If someone in shit job kills someone to keep it they are good employee.
4 likesYeah he was lamenting his life and career and what he had done to ruin it. The things that effect him, not what he did to her. He also burned her corpse and disposed of it like nothing...
9 likes@Jess Pavlichenko nah dude, he does not think that fair ahead. The way he handeld his killing and the aftermath proves as much. He's no criminal mastermind. Just a killer dumbo who regrets his life.
1 likeWell duhh, anybody who is facing prison time is going to feel sorry for themselves. Savanah is dead. But he still has to live and suffer the consequences.
1 like@Ej Ub Interesting that you see it from his point of view.
2 likes@AF budte have you ever thought about going to prison for doing something terrible? I'd most certainly be shitting myself over the consequences more than anything.
4 likesCan't really expect a guy who's capabable of strangling a woman to death to be particularly focused on remorse.
I'm sure plenty of people get away with murder, rape, theft, lies, and cheating and still manage to go to sleep at night.
@Ej Ub You miss the point. His 'oh my god - what have I done' is not the remorse of someone who realises he has has done a terrible thing to another human being. He cries only for himself, like an unempathic psychopath. He has no awareness of what he has done to another person.
0 likesThat's what I'm getting at.. You might call it psychopathic, but I think anybody caught and punished for a crime is going to feel worse for themselves than the victim.
1 likeIf I were out shoplifting, and I got caught and pulled into a room, I would be more upset about getting caught than the fact that I am a shoplifter.
People who commit crimes want to get away with it. Nobody wants to get caught.
The rare few who do have a moral crisis over their actions are the ones that go turn themselves in at the police station. But most people would not.
@Ej Ub You said if you were out shoplifting and got caught you would be more upset about getting caught than the fact you were a shoplifter. Not really comparable.
1 likeAsk yourself how you would feel if you wound up in a police station because you had dragged a young girl into your car, killed her, burned her body just to save your crappy cook's job? Most people couldn't really speculate on that realistically because they would choose to lose their job, home, marriage etc. than take an innocent life.
@MS W tell that to your biological instincts that have evolved over the last million years or so :) probably most murders are caused because we reproduce sexually. more than any other reaosn lol
0 likes@John Wayne Gacy nobody ever said he was a bad employee
0 likesDeuceGenius If you are that dedicated to your job, a normal person would follow the rules of employment, and certainly not murder someone because you didn’t want to get caught. Your argument is not based in logic.
1 like@Jess Pavlichenko That defense is kind of funny. So he defended himself... But then what? He burned the body and threw it in a river. I'm not an American, but I do believe that if you killed someone out of self-defense, you're still obligated to report it, yes?
1 like@Meagan Koenning no dude, that's not real remorse, don't be naive, he's just stressing out because he's bein caught.
1 likeI think you missed the part when he apologizes to savannah...that was sincere. No one asked him to apologize and he already knew he was going to prison, a glimmer of morality came out and then he caught himself being soft and thought to himself “they gonna kill you in there” so he “toughened” up
1 like@A b I admire your optimism.
0 likesPersonally, I hate when interrogators act like this, like when they start asking the same question over and over again like the suspect is gonna answer, and then start crying and insulting the suspect like that’s gonna help. Idk that’s just me. Why not provide the goddamn evidence? You wanna end this fast, right? PROVIDE. THE. EVIDENCE. STOP ASKING THE SAME QUESTION.
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It's a common tactic, to wear the suspect down.
0 likesWhen he has to go to the bathroom immediately thought he got the you know what scared out of him 😲
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Oh he's angry at her and angry at himself for telling the truth wow and all this because he could have lost his job he could have got a job somewhere else over a job. There has to be more to it.
0 likesIs there a law that if you a proven to commit the crime and didn’t report to the authorities right away you can’t play a victim?
0 likesMoral of the story, don’t get into peoples car at night
1 likeCop: what’s 1 + 1?
534 likesLee: Mathematicians seek and use patterns to formulate new conjectures; they resolve the truth or falsity of such by mathematical proof. When mathematical structures are good models of real phenomena, mathematical reasoning can be used to provide insight or predictions about nature. Through the use of abstraction and logic, mathematics developed from counting, calculation, measurement, and the systematic study of the shapes and motions of physical objects. Practical mathematics has been a human activity from as far back as written records exist. The research required to solve mathematical problems can take years or even centuries of sustained inquiry. Rigorous arguments first appeared in Greek mathematics, most notably in Euclid's Elements. Since the pioneering work of Giuseppe Peano (1858–1932), David Hilbert (1862–1943), and others on axiomatic systems in the late 19th century, it has become customary to view mathematical research as establishing truth by rigorous deduction from appropriately chosen axioms and definitions. Mathematics developed at a relatively slow pace until the Renaissance, when mathematical innovations interacting with new scientific discoveries led to a rapid increase in the rate of mathematical discovery that has continued to the present day. Mathematics is essential in many fields, including natural science, engineering, medicine, finance, and the social sciences. Applied mathematics has led to entirely new mathematical disciplines, such as statistics and game theory. Mathematicians engage in pure mathematics (mathematics for its own sake) without having any application in mind, but practical applications for what began as pure mathematics are often discovered later.
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You didn't answer the question lmao 🤣
16 likes@Ananya A no
0 likes@Ananya A L E E didnt answer the question
15 likesI didn’t read all or even most of this but still thumbsed up coz I like the premise
9 likesYes a nd no
0 likesLOL
0 likesThis comment is underrated. Haha thank you for giving me a good laugh
3 likesLMFAOOO
0 likes😂
0 likesDEAD
0 likesShe is some performer !
0 likesHe asked her for drug money and she refused so he got pissed and killed her
0 likesOn the bright side he can be head chef in prison
1 likefemale detective is OD like let him explain gah damn 🤣
0 likesNice find. That footage at the end is special.
1 likeI thought the female detective was too emotional.
0 likesLee Rodarte;s sister Amber Camarillo is also in jail for murder.
0 likesThe adderall did him in 😂
0 likesIm glad im not lee sat in a interview room looking at life🤣
0 likesInteresting how a bad idea can ruin not one but two human life.
0 likesThe Full Confession with the missing part, enjoy
0 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU
Rodarte's orthography is worse than his lies
0 likesthat ‘what happened to your neck’ was so cold
0 likesWhoah ho hooooo! Lee was boning the 21 y/o blonde at least ten years his junior. Why would he undermine that fantastic accomplishment by kidnapping her?
0 likesHe received 40 years
0 likesthis female interrugator makes me aggressive. If that is her tactic, I dont think this will work. Just stay calm and dont be hysteric
0 likesHis anguish is only for himself and never the victim. All talk of her is when is eyes catch the camera
0 likeswhy would anyone think sending a text like this would work lmao
0 likesI wonder how long Lee will last in Gen Pop.
0 likesIsn't that woman detective the same one who interrogated the 14 year old girl who killed her 12 year old neighbor?
0 likesHope this guy is ''popular'' in jail too.... many dads there waiting.....
1 like6:00 You can see the exact moment Lee knew he fucked up.
0 likesI had a mate who tried to slit his own throat it's not that unusual
0 likesHis sister is also in jail for murder. look it up.
0 likesThe strange text bits are so terrifying for me, as someone who texts everyone constantly. I’ve grown so accustomed to my family and friends’ text styles that if it’s even slightly off, I’m already panicking and trying to call as I’m running out the door.
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@Colby He is not smart. Not dumb, but not smart.
9 likesIt would have been better if he didn’t text them, Savanna’s parents wouldn’t have called their work and only would be tipped off after whenever she usually got back home.
26 likesparanoid much
6 likes@Dachi Very much so.
3 likesThat’s how my mom is with me. She would call me and say I didn’t call her mummy I called her mum and I hardly ever call her that and it worried her lol. She’s mom paranoid x 50
10 likes@Kimberly Kenyon would it really have been better, hmm?
0 likesThank the heavens he seems to hate a well - made plan and suffers from a severe lack of cognitive thinking. Thank the heavens indeed🤔💭
"MOM, I'M GONNA DIE WHEN I'M IN JAIL"...YES SON, YES YOU ARE...LOVE MOMMY...
0 likesI think she broke up with him and he couldn’t handle it and killed her
0 likes38:05 ... "Last time you get you wear a chef's coat" ... this made me feel for the guy
0 likesGood cop sad cop
1 likeDetective: "So how long have you known Savanna"
3997 likesLee: literally recites the PBS Documentary on his life story
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he thought he was so smart, yet failed at every step of the way in the interrogation xd
50 likesLMAOOO literally
4 likesSeriously bro
1 likelol
0 likesSo long I forgot the question and went to the comments to find this lol
8 likesWow, they broke him. Youg girls, stay away from men already in relationships. It won't end well.
0 likesWhat's this nice chap done then? I'm at beginning and havnt read description. He's a killer. I can tell. Am I wrong?
0 likesThis dimwit was never going to talk his way out of the situation. He's hardly the sharpest tool in the box.
0 likesIf I was there.
0 likesDetective: "How long have you known [insert name]"
Me: "few years"
Detective: " How many?"
Me: "Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh A few. She always knew how many years. Anyway *starts babbling bout something dumb*"
Detective: "I- Guilty."
Me: "An- Excuse me? This is normal for me."
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Gacha cringe normie
0 likes@Tombstone What does that have to do with me putting a dumb reply? Plus if your commenting on my channel banner and icon. I have to change it. And so what if I like Gacha. You really didn't have to comment it. Also thanks for the fuckin comment :>
0 likesI love how most killers only start crying when they realize they're gonna be lock up for a very long time and not for the crime they committed...
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That’s debatable. Sometimes people make huge mistakes like this, they could actually be sorry for the crime they committed lol. Most people, even criminals, aren’t heartless. The reason they don’t outright confess is because every human has self preservation as their top priority
49 likesI was just thinking the same thing. I still feel guilty over a small turtle I forgot out in the sun when I was like 8. I guess that is why they are in there and the rest of us are out here.
15 likes@Raul Hernandez not heartless but I think most killers lack empathy for the victim so would not cry on them but on being caught, being seen as a bad person etc... In what we see in the footage he mainly blames himself for putting himself in a bad situation and for being stupid. Not for that poor girl he killed...
12 likes@Raul Hernandez Yes, because going out of your way to end someone's life is a 'mistake'
3 likesDee Collins a turtle 🐢 dude, just playing. I’m sorry
0 likes@Raul Hernandez They wouldn't do it if they were sorry. He would have been fine if he'd never been caught or questioned - you think he was planning on immediately turning himself in? THAT would be sorry. Being caught and forced into a confession is not being sorry.
4 likesDee Collins same here, I put my small turtle in water but I didn’t know it was sick and couldn’t swim well, it died afterwards. I will never forget that
2 likes"how long have you known her:"
0 likeslol... have a seat lemme tell you a story
Why do people still talk to police without a lawyer. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad this POS confessed and will be punished. But had he kept quiet he probably could have avoided dying in jail. (again, glad he didn't ask for one and just confessed)
0 likes5 Star narrator.
2 likesMore lawnmowing could've prevented this.
0 likesInterrogator: "So, how do you know Savannah?"
1771 likesLee: "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit..."
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This was by far the funniest comment:))))
12 likes😂
3 likesr/unexpected lotr
11 likesomfg bruh I can't LMAO!.. 💀
1 likeDon't express ur anger instantly. Swallow it. Do boxing kicking or shout in pillow. U deal with that person atleast after 2 days when sense is with u. Practice will make it easier. Don't ruin ur precious life in stupid rage
0 likesKiller :Is it alright if I use the rest room
1 likeAd:this is it guys move in move in
one thing the suspects have in common is they all answer long and lengthy
0 likesLee: "effin idiot Lee, effin stupid.."
1 likeYep.
Detective: "How do you know Savannah?"
803 likesLee: "According to all known laws of aviation, a bee should not be able to fly. Its..."
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That was funny.
4 likesmaxTV ehhh 3/10
1 liketop comment material
1 likeHe explained his whole life story for a few simple questions
0 likesWait, wasn`t that the humble-bee that shouldn`t be able to fly? And no, I`m not fun at parties. I`m hardly even at parties at all.
0 likes@Dominik Baumgartner I think at the time the statement was said, the current known physics coudn't explain aerodynamics at such a small scale. The tiny humble-bee wings interact different with air than for example an airplane wings.
0 likesPlea deal. Plead guilty to second degree sentenced to 40 yrs
0 likesThis guy really killed a girl who was bragging about his pipe game to her friends cause he didn’t wanna lose his minimum wage job as a seafood chef
0 likesI miss JCS so much man.
0 likesWho made this woman a detective she's irritated and she's begging and pleading and doing all this weird s*** nowhere in her investigation did she use any tide think she's sitting there crying talking about If This Were my child get this lady out of here
0 likesInvestigator: "how long have you known her?"
2052 likeshim: * tells story of his life *
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That Adderall kicking in probably didn't help
76 likes🤣
1 likeHim : "It all started when my mother and father were born..."
19 likes"you're probably wondering how i got here"
3 likesHey Felix
0 likes@C. J. Awesome "but first lets talk about their parents"
0 likesim using this as background noise and constantly hearing my name is like hearing the vine boom sound affect
0 likesWhy is the confession part cropped?!
0 likesThese detectives are talking over each other...
0 likesdamn me being called out. I do talk a lot to try and get approval. not a murderer but still...
0 likesThis channel is fvcking genius. Dont EVER change JCS, never.
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no
1 like@Zac R. thank you! I’ve been checking this channel every couple of days since The last upload and was worried he’d stopped posting! So addicted to his videos
7 likes@Zac R. i'm sorry to bother you, but for the life of me, i simply can't find the other channel. could you perhaps send a link?
0 likes@Zac R. yoooo thank u so muchh
1 likeI'm addicted to it. Today is a Sunday and all I've done is watch old police interviews all day ffs.
3 likes@Fiend558 YouTube can auto delete posts at times so it’s easier to alter curse words so your post is less likely to get swept up in the algorithm
0 likesI wouldn't mind if he changed his upload schedule and actually released more of these gems, although I'm more than happy with quality over quantity so if that's the case here then yes never change.
1 like@Mihailo Paunovic lmao what're you, 8?
0 likesI know. The narrator is so damn dry and sarcastic it is perfect.
0 likes@dillon You rock! Thanks. I couldn’t find it either.
2 likes@Rhod Williams Ah. The Church of YouTube. Gotta love it.
1 likeno
0 likesQuestion is, who is JCS
0 likes@Ej Pichay
0 likesJCS= Jim Can't Swim
@Zac R. did we just become best friends...?
0 likesFor some reason the one interrogator reminds me of Steve Kerr
0 likesAnyone know what happened? Like with the trial? Was he guilty or what?
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I think he got like 40 years in prison
0 likesYep, he took a plea deal pleading guilty to second-degree murder in exchange for a 40-year sentence
2 likesGeez man, this dude wouldn't shut the fuck up. Really incriminated himself. And he could've gotten away with it.
0 likesStill salty about how YouTube did JCS. I really miss his new uploads.
0 likesDetective: "So how long have you known Savanna ?"
3393 likesLee: "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times,..."
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It’s the times that trimet soul, ask not what high school can do for you, but you could do for....
32 likesTo me fair, people high on adderall tend to ramble 😂
25 likesLast she said to me was “oh Romeo oh Romeo, where art thou fair Romeo?”
3 likesI then explained the situation again.
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
I’m now just saying sentences I’m sure I heard in movies... too stupid to tell if it’s working or not... I’ll continue. Lol
@Gavin Patino it’s not yet my nigga
4 likesHave you heard the Klingon proverb that says revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It is very cold.....IN SPACE!
1 likeThat's deep man, so poetic. i like it.
1 like7
0 likesOH you know taylor swift has a lyric similar to this - “it was the best of times the worst of crimes”
1 like“It all started when i was conceived”
3 likes@Marc B It would have been a good comment if you'd left the last two words off.
0 likes@Marc B *A Tale of Two Cities
1 likeGuy detective is being an asss to his partner . She had more control than him in the situation cuz obviously a guy feels more comfortable with a girl but the guy DT keeps budging in and doesn't let her work . Cmon man let her do her thing .
0 likesthe guy being interrogated is a monster but goddamn if the detective fake crying didn't piss me off
0 likesI would confess too with how annoying that one interrogators voice was
0 likesMakes sense. Case closed. Have a nice day.
0 likesHe had Spongebob levels of loyalty to the Bonefish Grill.
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this comment deserves more likes haha
24 likesRemember when they thought that they kill the health inspector?
22 likes🤣🤣🤣 Great comment!
5 likes@Asena couldn’t agree with any statement ever spoken or written in all of existence more than this one.
2 likes"This the last time I'll get to wear a shift jacket, Gary."
6 likesComment of the year
1 like@Pepi Roni Roni vaush debunked this ages ago
1 like@Pepi Roni Roni What a truly pathetic take.
7 likes@Pepi Roni Roni this, but unironically
1 like@Pepi Roni Roni wtf... you don’t know what their relationship was
3 likesLmaoo
0 likesThis women detective is way to emotional
2 likesCan JCS please start an apple podcast.
0 likesThat text at the beginning was just shady at best like wtf
0 likesBow tie detective looks like the one from The First 48, Arizona .
0 likesDetective: how do you know Savannah?
2788 likesLee: now this is a story all about how my life got flipped turned upside down
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6 likes☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀
3 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likeAhqhahqhabaha
1 likeLmaoooo
2 likes“A guilty person will seek approval from the detective.”
35 likesMe, a people pleaser: Oh no
Noice!
0 likesThe best comment
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0 likesNice!!!
0 likesI'm your 1000th like 🙂😂😂🥳🥳
1 like@Andrea Manning thank you! 😁🥳
1 likeLMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesLove this! Sad but this made me laugh.
1 like😂😂😂
0 likesKudos to you, fine sir :D
1 likeIn West Jacksonville born and raised
6 likesAt Bonefish Grills where I'd spend most of my days
Lmao
0 likesDude, im fuking crying dude😆😆
0 likes😁🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I heard will Smith just now lol
0 likesfresh prince reference i seee
0 likesDead af!!! 😅😅😅
0 likeslol that was a good one
0 likesDid Lee Rodarte used to be Freddie Mercury?
0 likes1 moment of madness your life is over !
0 likesI almost pity Lee.
0 likeshe would have gotten off if he just got a lawyer
0 likesThis guy seems like the type that would misspell several words in a single paragraph text....
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Exactly the way he text her parents.
42 likes*laughs in Onision books*
31 likesDammmnnnn im getting attacked left and right in every comments. Maybe i killed someone and dont even know it lol.
22 likesHe must have used her dead finger to unlock her phone. Let that sink in.
20 likesYou might as well just say you hate those damn peasants.
0 likesHe looks more like a little homeless donut operator
4 likes@Yahya Muhaimin sir. That was the joke lol
1 like@thetshirtblog why are you assuming that her phone was fingerprint locked?
1 like@Gary Egeberg lmfao i wish i could but i honestly i dont think i did. but you never know man. we're gonna have to try hipnotherapy.
0 likes‘Didt kill my coo worker.’
0 likesHe did! Lol.
0 likesDang man this sad AF!!
0 likesI have one issue with the imminent threat thing.
0 likesLets say I was being questioned and I knew I was innocent I would still be stressed and shitting myself as I dont trust law enforcement to ever do a good job.
Mom, im going to die when im in jail... what a tool
0 likesHe got 40yrs in prison
1 likeAfter this time, I kinda like how the algorithm brings us all together again.
421 likesI usually never watch videos like that but I must say that these are made really well and are giving some interesting insights in many cases.
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YOU'RE giving interesting insights (in many cases...).
1 like@465marko ?
1 likeIf you like this you can also check out Matt Orchard (:
1 likeHow could you know about the other videos when this one was the first that got recommended to you?
1 like@ZombieMiezZ Thanks for recommending it, will look into it. :D
1 like@Suschi You're very welcome. I also can recommend Dr. Todd Grande - he is a PhD who uploads analysis of crime cases, breaks down the character of the perpetrator & the circumstances. Just in case you get out of material to watch (;
1 likeThe way you mongrels back people into the corner ,get a lawyer
1 like21:00 This bit was so funny considering my local Bonefish just closed down
0 likesJCS!!! COME BACK! WE MISS YOU!
2 likesLike I always say, don’t kill people.
0 likesAnyone See 29:50 . The female detective feels like she's getting somewhere and the male detective starts to speak in the brief moment of silence after her plea for this shit bag to confess. So she gently puts her foot on his leg to tell him that she's gonna try, and wants some space for silence. Pretty cool, they must work together a lot.
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Awesome observation dude
234 likesGood eye dude
111 likesBrando Porter • good comment. If the dude did that he'd be in jail for assault. Lol. But really good eye I'm just high and reading shit.
22 likes@Ryan Cameron if he assaulted her he would have to worry about assault charges. Discreetly tapping someone’s leg to try to tell them something is not assault regardless of gender. Stop trivializing assault and harassment.
381 likes@Katie Graham calm down.
19 likes@Katie Graham THANK you.
149 likes@Ryan Cameron don’t make jokes that trivialize serious issues.
178 likes@Ryan Cameron What makes you think theyre not calm?
83 likes@You're the reason he's crying and you have thing skin too..ha relax bro or lady bro I don't know you , uou you don't know me..don't tag me..peace. thin skin..super sensitive..relax.. chill...take a deep breath.
7 likesPeace and love , im not arguing with some wino random with nothing better to do. Get a job and contribute to society. If words affect you that much. Don't read.
11 likes@Ryan Cameron I'm not thin skinned nor am i angry at your comment. I'm perfectly calm. You on the other hand are turning a blind eye to someone pointing out that you made a dumb statement. Instead of having an open mind and accepting that you may have said something not so good, you deflect and ignore and quite frankly, become a little too defensive. I can tag whoever i want, this is the internet. Cheers, have a good life. Hope no one trivializes bad things that YOU go through.
111 likes@Ryan Cameron now girl………………………………
8 likes@Ryan Cameron If you say stupid shit, you're gonna get called out lol
82 likes@You're the reason he's crying Wait, haven't you heard? Calling out a bad joke for being bad is equivalent to being a quivering baby on the floor, and instantly means you are fuming mad and have thin skin! There's literally no gaps at all! He gets to tell you to calm down because, if something is a joke, it magically means it is completely invincible to criticism and any critiques can only come from deranged psychos! Pretty nifty trick huh?
52 likes@Ryan Cameron I probably pay more in taxes than you make in a year, but nice try insulting me 👌
33 likes@Blueberry Blues Wow! How did i not know about that? It's like his "joke" was just dumb, unfunny and simply untrue! But nahh, I'm just a a fuming snowflake!
22 likes@Ryan Cameron lol! Right?
0 likes@Katie Graham ha of course . Good. for you girl working.
0 likesYeah I saw that.. u thought jcs would mention it.. but he didn't
1 likeI love how fast he stopped talking when he touched him he knew exactly what she meant
14 likes@Ryan Cameron wow I wish you were in jail
13 likes@Ryan Cameron you want to be oppressed so badly
22 likes@Ryan Cameron moments like these make me wish the dislike button still worked
23 likesHa everyone should relax. Take a walk. I didn't mean to cause curfuffle.
2 likesGood catch.
1 like@Ryan Cameron Bruh even in today's world nobody gets assaulted for that lol , you have some problem bruh
4 likes@Katie Graham how do you know what he makes in a year? Also, why does your salary matter in that argument? I’m just wondering
2 likesNice read dude!
2 likesthats the universal "u DTF after?" gesture
0 likesNice catch. I didnt notice that. You're either very observant or watched this several times.
5 likes@Ryan Cameron lol bro im high too reading shit. Now while I don't think your comment was very funny, I don't think it was serious either. Things can be easily misinterpreted here and there are plenty of folk who are quick to react to anything that seems offensive. This doesn't always mean their offence is unjustified so you should be careful when talking of topics that are serious as this. Do agree everyone should chill out and maybe spark a lil smth though ;)
2 likes@Ryan Cameron you're also wrong
1 like@Love Is The Drug Beca he told her to get a job and contribute to society and she's assuming his wage to be average and hers is probably way above average so a reasonable assumption
8 likesWoah, you have some laser focusing vision or sum to notice that lmao
2 likesShe was super annoying to be honest
1 likeOh yeah I never noticed
1 likeJokes are funny, we like jokes
0 likes@Ryan Cameron I get really grossed out by people like you :) dont get riled up btw, its just a joke 😒
3 likes@Ryan Cameron What you said is obviously sarcasm, but does have some basis in reality. A boy in England touched a girl's arm, and I believe he actually got convicted of sexual assault. You're able to make fun of the ridiculous warping of the definition for sexual assault without diminishing the magnitude of actual harassment. I don't know why your comment attracted so many deranged replies. I feel that they don't actually believe what they're saying, they just like pretending to be outraged.
0 likescouldn't notice that in 144p😂
0 likes@vj v oof
0 likes@Black Donald Trump more like, I am woman hear me WHINE. 🙄
1 like@im a cat oh jeez.....more whining🙄🙄🙄
0 likesDamn I would have never caught that!
0 likes@Ryan Cameron You wouldn’t be joking about that so flippantly if you had a decent understanding of the issue, and you can’t blame ppl for finding your ignorance offensive when you just laugh it off instead of being adult enough to take accountability
0 likes@Love Is The Drug because he told her to get a job
0 likes@Stephen Grigg you are funny. I am responding here and there to the funny people who tag my name. And it doesn't really concern me how I " come off" on a YouTube video comment section to people I've never nor will ever encounter. Figure it out bud.
0 likesgood catch
0 likesThe one leading the interrogation is usually the one talking less.
0 likesGod level observation! Thank you
0 likes@Katie Graham Katie, your obviously annoyed with Ryan. Here Grab a Snicker... you're not yourself when you're hungry!!!
0 likesGood observation!
0 likesThe female detective is pissing me off with her "women are weak and weepy" approach. She can take the good cop angle without acting like she's on the verge of tears smh
3 likesThat's, that soul cry (Jigsaw voice) Game Over
0 likesAre you the one who puts the clocks up there or is that for the room? Also yea don’t kill people
0 likesTissues, just chilling on the table
0 likesThis dude: wipes nose on literally anything else
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Oh! He did finally use a tissue!
0 likesImagine killing a girl because you didn’t want to lose your job as a manager at a restaurant.
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Bruh 💀 I was thinking the same thing
59 likesAt bonefish grill
125 likesit would suck to lose your job over it but goddamn, going to prison the rest of your life over it? this is why it fascinates me to see people throw their lives away over stupid shit like this. like, seriously? you thought your life was over just because you were gonna lose your job at a stupid restaurant?
65 likesNow just tossing salads every day
29 likesAt freaking Bonefish Grill. WTF!? That's like a lil better Red Lobster.
12 likesLosing the job would have been much much easier. What was this dude even thinking? He would have found another's job.
5 likes@FMarteen nah honestly there are people that will kill for any reason some just out of curiosity people can be horrible that’s why you gotta stay safe
11 likes@nate void Yeah totally true, have you seen that Jodi video? Hell it made me realize I dated a woman who was nearly an identical copy of Jodi and to be quite frank I have come to understand that I was in danger after I dumped that lunatic, luckily I did not end up like that poor guy Travis but it makes you wonder how your life can end at a whim notice, even if it is a petite lady who could pull a knife and a gun on you, sick stuff really.
11 likesOn the other hand, he did look nice in that chef's shirt.
5 likesI bet that is the one lie they believed. I bet it was over something else. The dope or something.
2 likesmy headcanon is he deals heroine to his coworkers and she was threatening to turn him in.
7 likes@Dan White sounds like you'd do well in prison. probably have the time of your life.
1 likeIt's all relative. what difference does it make if it wasnt a 6 figure job? It was relatively good for that guy and that girl was threatening to take it all away just because of a bad break up. People have killed for less.
6 likesAs someone who works at bonefish grill, i can't imagine it
5 likesImagine saying the same exact thing as the comment directly above you 😱
1 likeimagine copying someone else's popular comment just to get likes on a Youtube video comment.
0 likesNow he'll have a new job in the prison kitchen being a "Chef" for his new clientele. He better be a good chef ....or else😂😎
1 likeWe have a bonefish grill near the mall and it was a terrible experience. God I hate chain restaurants
1 like@mtscountrytime86 I personally find that a pretty messed up way to look at it. You only care about your life, and the only reason you're even against it is because you're assuming you'll be caught...How about taking someones actual life over losing your job at a stupid restaurant? Jesus. The only reason you don't murder people is because you'll go to jail, huh? Wow.
2 likesThat's the surface reason but I would imagine there are more complex psychological dynamics at play.
0 likesAnd ending up loosing his job and his freedom.
0 likesyou know very well that that was most likely not his real motivation
1 likemanager at a restaurant can be making good money. I am a simple technician with just 1.5 years of experience but making a 6 figure salary. If someone out of vile decided to end my income, I think I would justify myself in killing them in a terrible way.
3 likespretty sure most humans would feel the same way. Most humans would fantasize about killing someone who did them this wrong. Stop pretending like ya arent humans. The difference between this guy and us is that he actually did it, while we merely fantasized about it
@Artyom Arty get some help. Find a therapist, and actually open up to them. I've never even considered such a thing, for so petty a reason. If you're not trolling, you need to talk to someone.
4 likesGet it out, no one will judge you.
If you act on that stuff, you'll certainly be judged.
@hillary clinton He's still getting the bone in his grill too.
0 likesCapitalism...
0 likesNot excusing the crime at all, the service industry is a tough place to be employed in. Long hours and grueling schedules really warps the minds of the people who work there, and the threat of having that taken away from you would likely make more than a few people go nutty. Not everyone has the skills to transfer to doing something else, and if you come from a shitty upbringing, what little you have means the world.
2 likesFishy.
1 likeMan, two brothers here started a knife fight and one died over 2000COP, around 55 CENTS. One stabbed the other in the heart, soon after in the head and then collapsed and kicked the bucket. People can be dumb and impulsive
0 likes@mtscountrytime86 pride, a fragile ego, being stupid and impulsive, anger(that is blinding), maybe drugs damaging the brain over time. I personally have lost control and behaved in ways completely opposed to my rather calm and passive personality which resulted more than once in almost physical fights with my now ex and me screaming and growling in a completely different voice and then regret that a couple hours later and feel like shit. Other people have even less inhibitions and much less control when wronged
1 like@Artyom Arty Is that you Lee? Do they let you have youtube in jail?
1 likeRonald McDonald Approves.
2 likesSome people just don’t think
0 likesAnd not some 5 star restaurant where you're making bank; this is the boner fish grill we're talking about.
0 likes@Tony Stankard well, they did have two job openings after this.
0 likes@FMarteen it was accidental watch the end. he meant to self defense when savannah started slapping him, he later realised he accidentally killed a person.
0 likesit was accidental watch the end. he meant to self defense when savannah started slapping him, he later realised he accidentally killed a person
0 likes@junior Saenz it was accidental watch the end. he meant to self defense when savannah started slapping him, he later realised he accidentally killed a person
0 likes@mtscountrytime86 it was accidental watch the end. he meant to self defense when savannah started slapping him, he later realised he accidentally killed a person
0 likes@Becoming an Entrepreneur I was saying this person's comment is literally one word different than comment that's above it and it was said a week before this one. She just used someone else's words to get likes
1 like@Tony Stankard I know, I was just joking around lol. I was saying one employee got killed and and one employee went to jail. So there were two job openings and maybe both commenters were their replacements. But I was joking, you comment is still valid.
0 likes@Becoming an Entrepreneur oh lol I see haha. yeah went straight over my head
0 likesLoool
0 likesThis.
0 likesSurely it was more related to the emotions mixed up in their relationship rather than the job itself..
0 likes@Leslie Tincher What's wrong with Red Lobster? We're lucky if we go there twice a year
0 likesTbh do know if that’s a tactic but I’d just confess to stop that lady pecking
0 likesIf she was Paranoid I don’t think she would sit in the car
1 likeUpdate: 40 year prison sentence in exchange for guilty pleading
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40 years. That's life unless the parole board shows some sympathy after 20 years.
0 likesFemale detective cant take it😂😭😭
0 likesIt always fascinates me when people get this emotional for getting caught like they didn’t just MURDER someone. Where was this emotions as he was killing and burning the young lady’s body.
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We don't know that there wasn't emotion. Probably cried all the way through the burnong and stuff. I mean you never really know.
40 likesHe confessed.out of guilt within days. They were both high on meth. He is sorry. He cried and meant it and will waste his poor life. I felt sympathy for him as well.
24 likes@Tiffany guilt? He confessed because he got caught in a lie
20 likes@LifewithAdaeze then you can't see when someone is obviously guilt ridden thru his body language and words. We all see different things I guess.
6 likesnever have children
3 likes@DR3d1D M@NGO “psychopaths” in the true clinical sense are statistically rare. murder is not. just because someone murders someone else, that doesn’t mean they’re a psychopath. that’s a buzzword nowadays and thrown around way too easily.
23 likesYou know there are more emotions than just guilt, remorse, sympathy and empathy? If we only had those (christian) emotions, we wouldn't survive. But there are a whole host of others, most of them much more powerful. People often talk about them as if only young men prone to violence have them, but we all have them. A range of emotions that we are all doing our best to keep under wraps because, 1) we are not really taught how to deal with them and 2) when they come out it mostly gets us into trouble. Murder is one of the most natural events in the world, it has also been committed by humans since time began.
1 likeProbably absent because he was trying to save himself from going to prison aka self preservation? I dont understand comments like this, what do you expect them to do? be happy?
2 likesRight! He’s crying because he’s losing his life now, not about the loss of her’s I don’t think.
5 likes@Tiffany why the hell do people keep feeling sympathy towards murderers? Just why? He KILLED someone, and we should feel sorry for him? What about Savannah, and her friends and family - who is feeling for them?
9 likes@Gentle Khajiit Everyone is feelinf sorry for her and her family and friends. It's just that some people are able to emphatize both ways. The guy was clearly sorry and regretful for what he did. People act out on a 0.001 seconds notice and might not be able to regain control of the situation until it's too late. Of course this does not justify murder and the penalty he received was righteous (under the u.s. law anyways) and we're not saying it isn't. It's just that it is also sad to see a man throw his life away in the span of seconds, probably not fully understanding what he was doing until it was already too late. And when being questioned by officerers for such a crime surely the first thing that happens is not remorse but panick and defensive mode because you know your life is now at stake too. Most of the videos I've watched here on this channel are horrible, horrible people but I don't believe Lee is one of them. Just a guy at the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong person under the wrong circumstances on the wrong mood and state of mind.
2 likesRIP Savannah!
@Joseph Edwards Why did you put Christian in brackets? A Christian is not more or less likely to display any emotion than an atheist or someone from any other religion
3 likes@Joseph Edwards ? People who have Never heard of Christianity experience those emotions as well. Why do you think a religion is connected to the origin of particular emotions?
2 likes@DR3d1D M@NGO nice job diagnosing from behind your keyboard, without access to the details of the case, and without a psychology degree
0 likesYou would have told them that it was an accident if it was. It obviously wasn't.
0 likesWhy the title change? I could swear his name was in the title before?
2 likesdoes he ever shut up 😭 they asked how long you knew her and u give the plot of a lifetime movie
0 likesI couldn't stand to be interviewed by this woman detective.
0 likesSnivelling about his mama cannot make me feel sorry for him after what he did to that poor girl. And to try to paint her out as some kind of junkie as well, please.
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UnCreative Deconstructionism true but he kept saying he’s not into that heavy stuff like she was getting out of control... Guy would rather murder than go through disciplinary action through his employer
24 likesI never understood why the word "junkie" is just accepted, seems like every other kind of slur is being made a bad word but no one complains about "junkie"
21 likesPelpington I hate the term “junkie”. It makes it seem like people with substance use disorders are human detritus.
31 likes@Bowman Wright people who sell/pawn stolen junk for dope are junkies.
25 likes@Bowman Wright So every word that develops over time to describe something must eventually be declared harmful? You know most midgets don't mind being called midgets right? It's just people like you who mind. Pretty sure most junkies would refer to themselves as junkies once they come to terms with their illness.
25 likesPelpington - lol. When the crack epidemic swept the black community, they were called every horrible name in the book, while draconian drug laws were created to lock black folk up for decades over their addictions. Now that drug dependency is hitting rural and middle America, drug laws are relaxed (treatment instead) and saying “junkie” is a slur. That good ol white privilege
17 likesKarolinaki V I have no doubt that he was the one to introduce her to the drugs. Females aren’t usually able handle the ups and downs of chemicals and are more easily ravaged by them. So he abandoned her when she wasn’t well and, when she returned from hospital and was healthy again, he was again attracted to her. I have no doubt he was the one who introduced/suggested the heroin or harder drugs. Again he became bored, and she was not dealing well with the drug use...so he eliminated her.
4 likesDante Goodman fr, one of my lady friends can take lines of marching powder that’ll put Scarface to shame and she’s a great person
5 likes@November Flower702 internet detective, describing the situation of 2 random people he's never met.
4 likesIm pretty sure she didn’t use drugs
6 likesI'll taketh thy cheese by force even if she was addicted, trying to mislead detectives like she was out of her mind “being paranoid” etc like she somehow had it coming ? What a guy!
5 likes@I'll taketh thy cheese by force 👏 Totally understand.
0 likesAbusers and narcissists AND psychopaths..LOVE to play the victim. They want all the attention and they want to paint everyone else as bad.
8 likesGreg Garrison “So every word that develops over time to describe something must eventually be declared harmful?” Is a complete straw man argument. “Junkie” is a pejorative term that contributes to the stigma around problematic drug use. It’s tantamount to being called a human trash bag. I work directly with people who have substance use disorders and in my experience, being called a junkie/former junkie does not have a positive impact on their recovery and self esteem.
3 likesThey found no drugs in her system he was trying to make her seem like a junkie he’s the real junkie
5 likesI'll taketh thy cheese by force they found no drugs in her system he’s a liar why would you even believe him ?
0 likes@Christina Acevedo why do women feel the need to completely reject the possibility that another woman may have been doing something wrong? I know the reason but i'm curious about your answer. What makes you think she wasnt using drugs? The fact she was fucking a guy who admitted to using drugs? The fact she was a grown woman who weighed under 100 pounds?
0 likesHe probably started saying sorry to her only to seem as remorseful as possible for the best chance of self preservation. I dont buy that he feels sorry for what he did. Just for himself.
2 likesEven if she were an addict, that wouldn't mean she deserved to die.
1 like@Bowman Wright but we are, to the general public. Most of us accepted that a long time ago, even ones that were hooked by our doctors are looked down upon. Fuck society, idgaf what they call me.
0 likes@ddLk I can't speak to whether or not she was using drugs habitually, as I'm not in possession of all the details surrounding her life. However, what is clear is that the perp was attempting to paint her in such a way (ie. a "paranoid" junkie. To say nothing of the fact that heroin causes quite the opposite of paranoia) in order to explain his homicidal behavior.
0 likesTo your point about women not being able to admit the fault of another woman, I would first say that there are billions of women on the planet, so I'd have to see actual research on the matter before I agreed with there being any pattern in regards to this. Women are just people and, as with people, there's a large degree of variance among individuals. However, if there is indeed such unifying pattern among women, I would most likely put it down to the simple fact that it's easier for people, in general, to empathize with, and imagine themselves in the places of, those who share similarities with them; whether those similarities be sex, race, religion etc. Perhaps women are more likely to defend the actions of other women because they know what it's like to be one, and thus subconsciously place themselves in the position of the woman in question, and view the situation in terms of what they would do and what they feel is right; unknowingly disregarding that they are a separate individual with a separate personality and beliefs. The latter could very well be the case, but again, this is a fallacy that most people have been guilty of committing (men and women).
Finally, for me personally, I do not view the use of drugs as something inherently wrong or immoral (I've struggled with them myself), therefore I don't feel the need to defend the victim from that claim for fear of tarnishing her image. Either way, a woman was murdered and whether or not she had a history of drug use is irrelevant to me. That's just me though, some women feel differently.
I know the question wasn't directed at me, but hopefully this answers it for you.
@Dante Good how in the hell did you make this about race?
1 likeLegendoflaw21007 Whittle - I didnt make life about race, America’s racism against black people “made” it about race. Nothing I’ve shared is dishonest or a lie. It’s the real world and how Americans treat certain citizens
0 likes@I'll taketh thy cheese by force
1 likeYooo chill bruh.
Lemme keep my cheese bro you trippin
@Dante Good anyone that says 'white privilege' and talks about how white kids get a slap on the wrist is trying to start a race debate even though not one person talked about race. In what context was the post about? ... because I have read it 3 times and no one mentioned it. I honestly think you're a troll trying to get people worked up.
2 likesLegendoflaw21007 Whittle - Stop demanding we stay silent about racism in order to make you feel better. This is a discussion forum. I’m not sorry that facts about racial biases upset you. You want people to stop talking about racism? Well then eliminate racism and we won’t have to talk about it then.
1 like@Dante Good just what I thought. A troll.
1 likeUnfortunately Dante Goodman has been brainwashed by the prevailing culture and powers that be-who wish to instigate race wars among those who, for whatever reasons, tend not to think for themselves. Luckily he sounds pretty young-so there’s a good chance, given more life experience, he’ll wake up to reality and to what’s actually taking place in our society.
2 likes@ahshat masell the CIA was selling that shit
0 likesthe police called him 5’11” just to piss him off
0 likesafter his confession all that fake emotion nonsense was the start of his defence. What is wrong with people? you fall out with a woman - it doesnt end well. So What? taking a life like that? WTF is wrong.
0 likesWhere has JCS been lately? It's the best true crime channel on YouTube but there haven't been any new videos in months.
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They dealt with so many issues with YouTube's moderation system deleting and age restricting their videos that they've essentially quit. Their last community post from 5 months ago explains it. It sucks. The only channels I've found so far that measure up to this quality are Matt Orchard - Crime & Society and dreading.
0 likesThe female sounds really unhinged -- even unprofessional.
0 likesInteresting how this interrogation specifically shares a resemblance to a mother and father asking their child what they did wrong.
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LOL! My mother asking what I did wrong is very much like an interrogation
29 likesExcept its in USSR
This actually reminds me when I was a child and lied to my parents about something I did.
10 likes@Mirtsu WHAT DO THE NUMBERS MEAN?
1 likeTo be honest the woman is kinda insufferable and would make me less wanting to admit anything with that over the top devastated acting performance
4 likes@michael fosco exactly I thought the same
1 like@michael fosco that was the point, sb wrote in the comments that Lee reacted to emotional women so she mimicked the situation with Savannah
0 likes@dauser4 clearly he reacted violently towards emotional women. Can’t fathom how emulating the woman he killed would coerce a confession
0 likesThe malibu was not an identical match. Note how the 2012 malibu has 3 black front "grills" and the second has the iconic 2 of any malibu before 2010.
0 likesEven if the picture cut off the top black front area, the headlights too would be cut off just as much, or at least the one on the far side.
Also the two malibus aren't even the same type of shape. The 2012 is more round. The second pic is a 2004 to 2009, somewhere around there.
Correction: I meant that second one has to be any malibu between 2004 and 2007. My bad.
I just started the video so we'll see if that was the guy lmfao
Please come back JCS we love you OGs
0 likesCringe that they send in the small cute investigator to beg him please Lee please ... pretty sure the pair girl begged him with more sincerity in her and that didn't ...
0 likesHe talks a lot... He talks more than Jodi Arias, damn.
0 likesHe was sentenced to 40 years when he was 31 if anyone wants to know.
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Omg when was his trial?
4 likesThe main piece of evidence used against him was the fact that Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
188 likes@The Zachster that's pretty incrementing tbh
54 likesjust watched the video today, and was just scrolling to see the verdict, and it was just announced today??!!! is this youtubes recommendation shenanigans again? or am i going crazy!
80 likesHe will also have to listen to impact statements from Savannah’s loved ones.
14 likesHis sister is also in jail for murder, life
39 likes@Yasser-the-Egyptian Mummy what's her name? I wanna look up her case
1 like@Thagreatest_unknown Amber Camarillo
17 likes@Miss Juggler oh damn i just clicked on this video today to watch this, what are the odds
8 likes@♪ Artsy Ebony Rose ♪ due to YouTube matchmaking videos, huh probably one out of one.
2 likesAnd apparently Florida doesn’t have parole. But they do % time or gain time. And also the law was amended in March 2021 down to the typical 65% I saw somewhere cuz it was 85. So since it was 40 with time served after 3 years that’s 37ish. 85% of that is 31ish. 65% of 37 is a subtle 24ish... so I mean he still gets out before 60. 55 if we get specific and if he participates in rehabilitative stuff and good time and all that reform mumbo jumbo. Killers be just walking around old af. And we wonder why these old folks drive crazy and do crazy shit. That mf was either in nam or in prison this whole time. Agent orange vs agents of the law. Idk bout this last part I’m saying but he gonna get out tho if they don’t kill him in there like he said.
10 likes@HRF Dude No man, thats the mighty algorithm
0 likes@Yohan Auvray idk man, it's not like it was on my recommended page. I was just binge watching these videos for the last few days and it was one of the many other videos on the side bar
3 likes@fisa *incriminating
3 likes@The Zachster Ok, I'm not ashamed to admit, if this was a joke, it completely went over my head. Was it?
0 likes@♪ Artsy Ebony Rose ♪ has nothing to do with what you have watched before I think. It's just that this video is connected to the one of his verdict. You watch one, you watch the other.
0 likes@Chicago Swish Rhymes as a colombian lawyer I can see the latin american law influence on florida law and I have to say: that's totally insane!
1 like@nanana I agree. your insight into the Colombian side of things would be great if you want to elaborate. But altogether it is truly crazy to think back to all the old folks I’ve seen in my life and to now second guess what made them the way they are. Most criminals doing time never made it to the news. So you’ll never know. And unless the news is keeping up to date and folks watching the news are keeping up to date, this guy could get released 25 to 37 years from now and no one would know about it. And he won’t look the same so how would recognize him. Who do we blame. Society? The law? Government? If we treat criminals worse than they treat their victims are we then worse than the criminal? And if we just let him walk back out on the street... to clarify, he doesn’t have to reform or anything. He can do the full 37 and not change at all. He can try to be better but his sentence was 40 max. Lol that means he can just be sitting there plotting revenge and we have to let him walk free cuz the law said so
0 likes@Chicago Swish Rhymes Yes. I worked at the prison some years ago, basically here in colombia you have something called "redemptions periods" so, if you work or even study inside prison they give you 2 days for 1 day of prison time. In colombia, an many latin american countries we dont have life sentences and we have a maximum jail time so if you kill three people they accumulate your jail time to the max time and remember that redemption opportunity so as the matter of fact you kill three people and finally you pay half of the max time.
2 likesIt's totally insane but I personally believe that it's about two things: 1. Catholic religion (compassion and so on) and 2. We are poor countries so the goverment doesn't have enough money to build new prisons etc (we dont have private companies contractors having prisons administration like United States.)
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0 likesokay good cuz after his ramble i didn’t want to watch the entire thing 😭
0 likesNot all heroes wear capes and thanks man.
0 likes@nanana the majority of information I know about Colombia, is from the show Narcos. And after looking up “magical realism” and seeing how the show may have incorrectly used the term makes me wonder about other things in the show. I knew that Pablo made his own prison. Otherwise I’m not very educated on the matter. It sounds insane though. It’s like no matter how hard the good guys try, they can’t keep the bad guys away, kesas? And the private prison system is crazy too. I think private prisons in America get paid by the government. And if Columbia doesn’t have the money to pay a company, if the company did exist, then the prison would need someone else to pay or keep prisoners for free. And maybe something like the United Nations or some big world organization like that would pay. But then they have to take something else from Columbia for helping keep the prisoners in a new prison. I’m just guessing on how it might work but it still doesn’t seem like it would fix the problem. Idk. Very interesting to think about and unfortunate to know that this is the realidad. I appreciate you. Thank you for your time in letting us know.
0 likes@Chicago Swish RhymesOk, 1. You have to consider that escobar was decades ago. I mean, now we have modern cities like yours, off course, there its some differences but I meet some americans living here (Medellín) before and they say that it feels pretty similar if youre living in upper middle areas. Now, being say that we can discuss about narcos I mean Colombia produce cocaine but there is some hypocrisy because rich countries have the consumers and the market, finally colombia gets all stigmatization and, off course, so many people die because narcos who buy guns with the money that they're getting in the usa. I can tell you this: I never never in my life do drugs, never touch any drug, and I know that maybe for you it sounds a lie but its totally true We dont have the drug adiction problem that you find in some place of usa.
0 likes2. Colombia its a poor country but it doesn't mean that we are like some africa countries or something. Yes, Colombian goverment can use a couple billion dollars in order to reorganize the prison system and getting full corporate but it will cost politically speaking so they simple dont do it and you have these prison unions, pretty big and strong, and they will do everything in order to stop any atempt to become corpo because they are goverment workers and they have some legal benefits (some years ago they even can get retired after 20 years of service)
3. Note aside: I notice something: if you live in colombia as a middle class or upper class person youre definitely can live better than being a poor american. That's sounds crazy but I belive its true because: a) we have an universal healthcare sistem like canada and it have some failures but it works. Here there is not such thing like a person with a healthcare debt. b) Real State are cheap and reasonable comparing to usa. c) food are cheap and more organic than usa because we dont have a lot of industrial process that you have d) if you live like a normal person, go to normal areas of the city, travel in normal hours to the little towns etc its quite peaceful (I know this sounds weird but it is the true, you get the most sensationalist news from Colombia) e) we dont have the work culture from usa and you dont have to work the huge amount of hours that you use to work in usa and f) you can get like all the basic gadgets stuff that you can buy in usa like I dont know a macbook, you know that kind of stuff. In fact I use to buy some things from amazon. g) there is not such thing like food coupons here. Because we dont need it, yeah, a couple of food services from the town but its not really an issue here.
Im just making a little comparison (middle upper class vs poor people in usa) and I know that in so many levels usa are pretty rich and more funnier to live that colombia. I love Usa and I want to visit as a tourist (I have some parents with citizenship and in fact my brother are in nyc right now as a tourist getting the vaccine, etc) but I can Assure you that its not like you maybe being informed like some jungle with people with a lot of guns etc (as a big country off course we have people with guns in some jungle but its more like you have to drive hours in the middle of nowhere to see something like that) we have cities like yours, we big buildings, uber, metro, parks, people running with dogs, coffe places like chicago, hot dog places like chicago, starbuks, burger king, mc donalds autoservice, and whatever. I have a car and in the weekend I can drive to the beautiful little towns with my girl, I can buy a cheap flight to another city for 25 usd dollars and get some fun. Yeah there its poverty, yeah you get some really weird news from here because media wants to show you only the bad (imagine being here in colombia and all the news from usa like "florida man doing something heavy" haha its like youre getting only the bad for colombia in the news ....but being say that there is a lot fun places too.
Pd: My intention its not to say anything bad about usa, I really love your country, colombia its a big ally and I admire a lot of things from usa like Mit, Stanford, Sillicon Valley, Space Rockets, Universities, incredible place and landscapes, texas bbq, and off course people (we dont think in colombia in terms of races so I reffer to all of you as a nation no matter skin tones) Stay strong america, stay classy.
he wouldn't be crying if they didn't catch him
0 likesHe gave himself motive.
0 likesHaha good for this guy to be in scrambles!
0 likesPeople here actually thought the female detective was amazing? I almost slipped through the video because of how over dramatic she was and ridiculous pleading to the guy that killed this girl. There is no way I would’ve taken that seriously in fact if it wasn’t a murder charge I bet he would’ve been laughing because of how ridiculous she sounds
0 likesHe IS an idiot. Killed an innocent person and threw away his own life for a job at the Bone Fish Grill.
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That cant be the motive. Thats way too dumb. I was thinking she told him she was pregnant or something.
31 likesYou might think he is stupid, but how could anyone ever know that the car park at the place where they work and park their car everyday has a security camera?
21 likesIt doesn't come across as if that was the motive. More like he was just pissed off at her for a variety of reasons. Have you ever dealt with a really difficult person? Remember he also said that he started seeing her when he already had a girlfriend. It was a complicated situation.
18 likes@Choco Manger You're right. I'm sure it was many things. I have to say yes, I have dealt with an extremely difficult person. I have a son with a ex who was possessive, jealous and controlling. I left the relationship and she tried to make my life hell. Using my son as a pawn, as well. Things are good now after custody battles, however, i would NEVER do something as crazy and stupid as murder. Partly the reason im so fascinated by true crime is bc I find it hard to understand how these people make these decisions. Like I get that theres a number of reasons, but still...find another solution!
28 likes@simms1237 I'm so sorry about your ex-wife. I don't understand why people do that to someone they at some point in time loved enough to spend their life together.
4 likes@M It was a really hard few years!
0 likesI'm not proud of my response to this 😂🤣😂😭
11 likesHonestly, he was probably just a line cook who claimed he was a chef. He looks like the type who would yell at the staff for bringing back the slop he made.
Note: just supplying drugs at the job and banging the hot waitress doesn't mean you're the chef
@Mysasser1 LOL
0 likesScorch428
0 likesNot dumb at all
Agatha Grunt-thruster ...
0 likesShe broke things off and he was feeling the age coming on.
4 likesAgatha Grunt-thruster lmaoooo
0 likesWhat do you mean the ole "i've foudn a greet gui and we running off 2gether" wasn't believable?
2 likesThe female detectives voice is glassshattering... but excellent job
0 likesThat self dialogue is kinda scary
0 likesI dont think a lot of the commenters critiquing the female interrogators methods and calling it cringey realize that this isnt specifically tailored for us to watch lol, she's putting on a emotionally manipulative act that is meant to be dramatic and meant to draw out the guilt inside of him, and she did a great job at it.
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Waat all I see are comments complimenting her interrogation skills lol.
69 likesI guess. She did help break him, so her technique was a good one. But I kind of feel it was a huge risk to use that method, as he just as easily could have been scared right into calling for an attorney. She scared the sh!t out of me, though, and I'm innocent! I was pleading in my head for Lee to confess just to shut her up!
84 likes@C Glenn he only broke when she stopped doing the yelling emotional thing...once she was calm and quiet, he admitted to it.
24 likes@Mar McCown true story!
7 likesThey both reminded me of super disappointed parents, it made me feel guilty and I didn’t even do anything.
49 likesAbsolutely! Its mind manipulation to get some form of confession/ truth.
6 likes@Beggars Night you’re probably correct. But I’m glad some criminals are as insanely stupid as they are plain crazy. Bad for them, good for us.
12 likesThank you!
0 likesperiod
0 likesFacts.
0 likes@Mar McCown Interrogators always switch tactics till one works this is not new. And eventually it all builds up to crack the criminal
0 likes@Alexa same this type of stuff reminds me of ppl in my life and i just get so scared
0 likesTo me it didn't come off as manufactured though, it genuinely seemed like she was messing up the other guy's strategy. He even subtly corrected her a few times
1 likeYou might have been seeing another case
0 likesThe fake crying was a bit overwrought.
0 likesHer: smart and tactiful in her Interrogation
1 likeMe: it's a little annoying and I don't like it 😠
@JohnathanK Doe Right, it's pointless to say that behind your phone/computer presumably in a place of comfort, knowing you've done nothing wrong. In a box at some law enforcement station or something with 2 professional detectives trying to get something out of you while you're trying to cover up the shit you did because if you fail you know you're in real trouble? Yea, you're not going to find her easy to dismiss.
1 likewell said💯she did a good job i think
0 likesThis is true. Detectives are very good at this and sometimes even act like they’re on your side. I’ve been interrogated before and even fell for it when I was younger; luckily I ended up being set free in the end.
0 likesHe basically admitted it when he said they had a verbal argument the day she disappeared.
0 likesHey Jim. You’ve inspired my kid to seriously consider a career in “forensic psychology” is that right? Whatever the right thing is you’ve given a teenager some inspiration on career paths that genuinely interest her.
212 likesWell done. If you do nothing else you’ve done this simple good thing.
Thanks Buddy.
Yes I know you are a team but to us you’re just Jim.
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4 likesGood luck to him
1 likeHigh IQ entertainment, Jim provides it.
4 likesThe little red haired girl from across the street
7 likes*her
Bill Brain Jeez, you sound like my dad. Your kid and I have the same dream career though!
1 likeBest of luck to your kid.
I see a lot of comments saying how “needy” the female officer was but I think this is why it worked. She probably realized that he killed the girl in a snap and could be very remorseful. So the mom/girlfriend sad voice worked very well.
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She also noticed how well it worked cause she kicked the leg of the male interrogator and he immediately stops talking to let her continue
136 likesbram merd she managed to get his confession REALLY quick, usually this takes hours....
86 likesVery good observation!
24 likesYes I agree it's so obvious. Her behavior being judged in the comments? Wow that doesn't surprise me! Some people... they just don't get it, even if it came up to them and slapped them across the face. This was excellent work by the JSO homicide unit. There might not have been a confession, if not for these two investigators.
91 likesShe just sounded whiny. Not sad or needy-just annoying. I'd say something to shut her up too.
14 likesShe crushed it.
24 likesMy impression was she was trying to take on the tone of a bereaved mother to appeal to any sense of compassion he may have for Savannah's own mother. It seemed to work pretty well.
48 likes@Maureen Seel That was the point. To be the whiny girlfriend/mother type.
14 likes2kawaii2care I fully agree. These were my thoughts exactly as soon as she started with her cry voice. She did a great job.
3 likesThe reason why people hated her response is most likely because of how underneath that veil of emotion she was so calculated, methodical, prepared, and effective that they know they too would have fallen into that spider web. They are mistaking the cold premeditation of this womans use of her empathic female nature for weakness, and they could not be more wrong. She broke that fucking kid mentally without ever so much as raising her voice above an argumentative tone. You can see the level of expertise in the way and time she first chooses to interject herself into the conversation. This was A+ level mental jujitsu.
36 likesMaureen Seel that’s exactly why she’s there, to make you talk. She wants to to get upset at her so you confess. You getting mad at her voice means she’s doing her job🤩
5 likesInteresting, because I feel like that didn`t work at all. At one point I just felt second-hand embarrassement tbh.
6 likes@Dominik Baumgartner yeah I agree. At least from my initial observations, it came across as whiny.
6 likesIt was an interagation tool to dig into his character to make him break and confess!
0 likesDominik Baumgartner “didn’t work at all” literally he spits the confession in last than 40 minutes after she takes what are you saying...
6 likes@2kawaii2care Of course, but I don`t think it was because of her.
4 likesDominik Baumgartner you have a right of having opinions and me too but I mean yours just sounds internal misogyny so I choose to believe that she is capable of her job.
7 likes@2kawaii2care I have never doubted you right to have an opinion, wtf? And now you`re acusing me of misogyny just because I don`t think what she did worked? This is absolutely ridiculous and I strongly reject this accusation. You can`t just play the "misogyny card" if I don`t like everything a woman does. For your information, there are thousands of things I don`t like certain men do, so what`s your point? It`s like saying I`m against black people because I don`t like the looting during the BLM protests.
5 likes@Dominik Baumgartner just think about it looks a lot like internal misoginy, I mean is not like you're a bad person we all are created inside a society that makes full of bias, I probably have mine too. but this channel is very clear in bad pratices and good pratices and I think he would say if she did something bad. He is a expert I prefer to listen his opinion. And you right Black lives Matters! kisses
2 likes@2kawaii2care Even professionals can make mistakes and you can be 100% sure that her tactic wouldn`t work if she used it against me. But whatever you say. Have a good one.
4 likesDominik Baumgartner I hope if you kill someone they do not use this technique w/you good day sir 🙃
0 likesMaureen Seel exactly why the tactic would work 😎
0 likesshe didnt seem needy to me, just a really annoying bad actress who wouldnt have gotten shit outta me
1 like@2kawaii2care Wtf r u talking about 40 mins... the video cuts off after 55 mins and we have no idea how long it took her crying at him for him to confess. Awful technique
0 likes@ODB sometimes there's no double meaning. Sometimes some women are just annoying. (im a woman - she was annoying)
0 likesIf she talked to me like that I’ll slap her
0 likes@Chosen 777 a very dumb way in getting jail time and proving instability
0 likesI hate seeing the comments implying she’s emotional because she’s a woman, completely undermining the fact she’s a detective who is playing a role to get a confession
0 likesPeople who complain the female detective is being "too emotional" is probably stupider than this murderer. ITS A TECHNIQUE, SHE DID THAT ON PURPOSE.
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153 likesAnd yes, absolutely fair point. That is precisely what happened here
She was annoying, and came off as trying way to hard
167 likes@U It doesn't matter if It sounds annoying or whatever. It's not meant to be "pleasant". You're missing the entire point of it
568 likes@U from an outsiders perspective yes but she isn't putting on a show for us. Imagine the situation the accused is in, he will for sure view it differently in that state and hence it works, AND that's all that matters really. Not if you find it cringy or not.
329 likes@U That’s exactly what she was going for mate... They’re talking to a Murderer not a fella who’s just stolen a couple of skittles from the supermarket
253 likesStay mad
12 likes@U She's not a hollywood actress playing a role for your enjoyment. She's working on a real life murder.
240 likesIt's just your bogstandard male chauvinism
36 likes@U imagine calling a detective who used an effective technique a tryhard.
223 likesI dunno man, seems like most women to me...acting on emotions rather than reason. There'a reason u don't see female detectives that often.
12 likes@Fred ignoring the blatant sexism, did you even read the thread?
221 likes@Fred is that also why men commit more murders and domestic violence? Or is that logical to you?
127 likes@Amy Rambles More testosterone is the main cause for that yes. We resolve problems with violence. That's basic knowledge.
5 likes@Fred I'm starting to think this is a bait
136 likes@Kyom Drift Towards what?
2 likesToo
1 likeI work with investigators that have more acting skill than most of Hollywood and the act was on point. She played it well
36 likes@sorryminati stupider and stupidest are real words
9 likesIt was absolutely annoying, even the murderer knew exactly which technique she was using, it's the first technique you'll ever be taught, it was pathetic
9 likes@Regan lol well it worked so i don’t really care
42 likesshe did well
7 likeslike....duh
0 likesYou’re right but It seemed really weird how she and the male detective interrupted each other during her bit
6 likes@TM4G those strategies are based off what works on the majority of people, if you know whats happening i dont think it would work
7 likes@Kyom Drift No, this is truth to the fact that there are significant differences in neurology in males and females.
1 like@Spuppy Relax snowflake. Just stating the obvious, that women are more emotional than men. Fact doesn't have to be sexist, but then again EVERYTHING is sexism nowadays. Also, I already have a woman, so ur wrong.
12 likesI don't know. She sure isn't believable. Too high a pitch, too stereotypical a plea.
3 likes@lordgizka she’s literally professionally trained... have you ever trained to be a detective? Do you know anything about what they planned for this interrogation? Didn’t think so
36 likestechnique is called annoy the criminal till he admits it we all know it this technique is used by pretty much everyone
2 likesIt was obviously fake emotion but I was curious why she chose that particular route and why she steered into it so hard. It would have been nice to hear the narrator mention the technique and maybe explain why they were so sure it would work even though she was only a mediocre actress.
19 likes@Fred a man in this video got angry and literally murdered a person, then had an extended breakdown when he got caught. A woman doing her job feigned some desperation to get him to confess, which worked swimmingly. Yet you still think this is evidence women are "more emotional" than men LOL anger is an emotion. I guess you didn't listen well enough in daycare to learn that.
50 likes@Regan I don't think you watched the same video that we did, buddy. It seemed to work really well.
12 likes@Gabrielle Fournell U saying that women are not less emotional than men?
0 likes@Generic Bro did you even read what i said after my first comment?
0 likes@U yes, I did. My opinion doesn't change. She was acting and trying to get sympathy out of him with her daughter because that's the exact same thing he tried to do before. If he knew that could cause an impact on someone then having a real mother tell him how much of a fucking shitty person he is would hit hard. He even cried and felt regret at the end. He was clearly not a psycopath.
12 likes@Vyansya Yeah people can complain if they wish. No two people have the same views, so take a chill pill and perhaps discuss the reason as to why people view her to be "too emotional" rather than come to an unwarranted conclusion. Indeed I find myself siding with those who find the female detective's christholm technique being too forceful. As someone who works as a police forensic technician in the UK I have never in my career been involved with the interviewing process, but have however witnessed such interviews in person and this type of technique seen in the video has indeed been overstretched to how we approached them over here. This is carried out in so many different manners within the world, we usually call this forceful manner as a "poor mans Hollywood script". To some it up, she did her job and they managed to a get a confession from the suspect so a good days work, just a bit too much nevertheless.
1 likeShe was a terrible actress i would have laughed at her..... but I also don't kill girls so...
4 likesgood cop, sad cop is a really cool technique ive never heard of.
4 likes@TM4G “too effective, women suck” is his whole argument.
16 likes@PISTOL PETE 604 you wouldn’t have laughed in that situation mate. this is interrogation not theater.
12 likes@Fred Seems like the women you met match your iq
10 likes@Fred tell me you’re an incel without telling me you’re an incel
31 likes@U the point went over your head huh? And she was being neither of those things.
0 likes@U nah
0 likes@Gabrielle Fournell I believe she was trying to imitate Savannah's last words for emotional effect on the suspect
2 likesAre there even any people mad about her or are you just doing the classic "and then everbody clapped" virtue signaling routine?
1 likeThis is separate from ur point plz learn how to type "more stupid" before calling people stupid
0 likes@Fred men are more prone to solve violence problems with violence but it’s not testosterone that causes that it’s adrenaline
1 like@MyTrashSchuulProjects I don't see how Beggin me to confess gets you anywhere? Please do explain I have a lot of time?
1 like@Fred you obviously don’t deal with women that oftean
6 likes@Fredsource:trust me bro
3 likes@Regan Do you work in her field?
1 like@Let's Talk About Prepping who said anything about annoying? Wrong thread mister.
1 likeIt's totally commendable that you are defending this detective, and I totally agree with you that she's just doing her job. But it's never a wise ideal to get very emotional in regards to sociopath's- it gives them a false sense of control.
2 likesAs you noticed, after she got rather emotional, thereafter the suspect just kept saying, "I don't know."
When the female detective got a bit more firm and confident in her evidence, towards the 31:00 mark, he then admitted that Savannah went home with him.
With a suspect whose more fragile and emotional, a more emotional response does work- but not with one as stubborn as this guy. :)
@Fred you're sounding pretty emotional fred
8 likes@Elephant mocha I live with one.
0 likes@thepants1450 Nah, I'm not a woman.
0 likes@courtney fritz1988 didn't you watch the video? The entire goal was to give him a false sense of control. The narrator brings this up several times. They use various tactics to make the suspect feel more comfortable, more in control, then suddenly take it away. The roller coaster of emotion (for the suspect) is what throws him off and eventually leads to a confession. Her tactic was similar but with the extra emotion of guilt being thrown into the mix.
7 likesHow can you say "it's never wise" from your armchair after watching someone successfully do her job? If a baseball pitcher did pirouettes while pitching and struck out every batter, you wouldn't say "it's never wise because it throws off the pitcher's balance and he can't see very well." You'd say "damn, not the technique I would've chosen but hey, it worked!" She got a freaking confession. It worked exactly as planned. Stop trying to tell women infinitely more qualified than you how to do their jobs.
@Fred women are not more emotional than men. From where, and how are you getting your definition of emotional? Is it because women are slightly more susceptible to transitioning between different emotions in shorter timespans than men (due to their physiology) on average?
8 likesHate to break your bubble, but that isn't the definition of emotional. 'Emotional' literally means to be capable of emotion. Sure, number 2 or 3 on the definition list might explore the colloquial meanings for the word, but at its core, emotional just means to be capable of feeling emotion. Men are no different. Culture has dictated that men should hide these emotions, but that doesn't mean they're not present.
But to honest with you, in current, modern culture, men seem to have no qualms with getting angry, proud, self-elevating, defensively dismissive, aggressive, and confrontational. These are all traits of a creature with the capacity for emotion.
It's very similar to how lay people often erroneously state that psychopaths and sociopaths lack the capacity for emotion. Wrong. They experience a vast amount of emotions. What people are really referring to when they say that psychopaths and sociopaths don't feel emotions, is empathy and compassion.
These 2 detectives worked as a team and nailed this guy. You should be commending them both on their skill and prowess, not bemoaning a female detective for being 'annoying' 😂
@Fred on the contrary. I'm saying men committing acts of violence is an indicator they are not in control of their emotions. This woman was in 100% control of her emotions. The man she was talking to did not have any control of his emotions whatsoever.
8 likes@Nullpointer literally open your eyes and look at the thread lmao. That’s evidence of people thinking she was annoying
1 like@courtney fritz1988 they didn't walk into the interrogation and decide on the spot which way to roll with it. Every suspect they deal with is profiled and examined. They have an entire team of forensic investigators at their disposal. If there were any hint that the suspect might be mentally ill or impaired, in the case of psychopathy and sociopathy, they would have taken a much different approach. Sometimes, such people are highly skilled at hiding their condition and it takes some time to work out which tactic will work best.
2 likesNo, you're wrong. Getting emotional as she did is sometimes THE BEST strategy if you have good reason to believe at the time that your suspect will succumb to it.
Occasionally it doesn't work and they have to try something else, but they are by no means arbitrary in deciding which strategy is most likely to yield a desired response.
@U Think of it this way they are doing it as a good cop bad cop type of situation. It’s was stated earlier that they rehearsed so he most likely died the hard hitting questions while she relates and shows more of the emotional appeal
3 likesWe all know women cannot play that character easily 😁
1 like@Bad botch Down well that... Came out of nowhere
2 likes@Aquascape Dreaming Dude you must have me mixed up with someone else, I said she did well, I thought she was amazing. I liked her style.
1 like@Dior Linn Good luck proving that 😁
0 likesYea she did a great job
1 like@Aquascape Dreaming Love the fact u spent so much effort into explaining all this. Guess u missed the part where I was trolling this thread. People get so riled up over a comment.
0 likesit’s not that serious 🧐
0 likes@Camilla Ek but it didn't work! Only the video evidence cracked him!
0 likes@SorryMinati 69th like
0 likesU people ever heard of good cop bad cop routine
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@Fred But you're adorable ! All that posturing though. PRETTY suspicious : D talking like a cowboy, calling people simp and snowflake, using common knowledge and logic like a big boy. I bet that woman you live with is super proud of her son.
4 likes@Caz Murrell I keep her in line, so not much complaining....yet.
0 likes@Gungaga Slayer bahahaha!!! "Good cop, sad cop" - that's hilarious!
0 likes@Fred u may enjoy trolling comment threads but come on man we only got so much time to do things in this world make the most of it 👍🙏
2 likes@Goston67 I am. Getting millennials fired up brings me so much joy!
1 like@Fred who says we're all millennials here?
4 likesthe detective was too mean to a murderer is literally the dumbest argument i have ever heard
0 likesi don't care about the technique lots of people of these vids i've watched have done that technique but it's just her voice is whiney like a little kid its not about her being emotional its about the pitch of her voice is aggy like a whiney baby crying
0 likes@Paz the Pole lol ikr
0 likes@SorryMinati both are correct so stop trying to subtly correct them without merit.
0 likesThanks my dude. You have given me a giggle.
0 likes@Sun Shine how are your feeling about the pitch of her voice relevant at all to how effective the technique is?
2 likesWhat matters is results and only results and would say that her methods while unpleasant to watch got the kind of result that most detectives hope for in these sorts of circumstances. Sometimes an appeal to a persons emotions can be a powerful thing.
2 likes@Fred bad bait
1 likeWhining/nagging voice sounded so forced it was cringe. Anyone that falls for that deserved to get busted.
0 likes@U You ever stop to consider that maybe, not everything women do is designed to be pleasing to men? You ever consider that maybe we're human beings who get annoying and loud and difficult at times - not ornamental objects designed for your pleasure?
4 likesMen are allowed to be annoying as s--t. You literally throw tantrums when you're told you CAN'T be annoying ("you can't even talk to women anymore"; as if we even wanted to talk to you at all). Why don't we get to be annoying too?
@Fred Female detectives are literally everywhere. You don't see them in FICTION, because fiction is sexist. They exist in real life.
4 likesAlso, they recently did a study on cops in my country, and like half of the male cops OPENLY admitted to having committed rape during the study (because it was anonymous, and they knew they wouldn't get in trouble). That's the ones who admitted to it. Gee, maybe that's why we don't see more female cops. Because, just like everywhere else on the planet, they can't feel SAFE in the police force.
@LordofFullmetal The only reason there would be more female detectives is because of quota hiring, which creates its own set of problems.
0 likesFiction is not sexist, it shows what people WANT to see. A 100lbs woman beating up badguys is not very relatable now is it. Abit off topic, but u get the picture.
Women get raped all over the place, nothing exclusive about it in the police force. Just walking outside is a risk these days. Where I live it happens in broad daylight totally random. We all know the reason for it, but that's "wrong think" these days.
Dang, she successfully does her job interrogating a murder and people complain about it?
3 likes@Fred A detective or inspector isn't really something you are hired into. It's something you're promoted into or take special examinations for. Detectives also aren't really the ones "beating up bad guys" as they are the ones that handle the investigation and follow up of police reports.
2 likes@Gabrielle Fournell By this logic it’s ok to beat a confession out of a suspect, if we only care about the end and not the means?
0 likesTo be honest I don't think the female interrogator was helpful at all here. When she switched the vibe so quickly to an emotional assault, I thought the suspect would probably just lock up.
0 likesAnd that's exactly what he did for a good while. It was too much sensory information too quickly. The guy was obviously confused and startled, which is a textbook way to get somebody to freeze and lock up. They're just lucky that the video evidence was a trump card that the suspect obviously couldn't get away from. But I'm sure they would have reached productive territory faster without that strategy.
@BodTheGrinch It was literally discussed in the video that this was their strategy and was rehearsed and that it worked. This was all calculated, they already had the video evidence at the time of the interrogation. There approach would have been different if they didn't have it.
2 likes@James "showing emotion and acting desperate is the same as physically beating someone." -James, 2021
0 likes@The Dean of Lean Lol I'm well aware it was their strategy mate. I watched the video. I'm saying her contribution to the strategy wasn't helpful in being successful. For, y'know, the reasons I actually described in my comment.
0 likes@BodTheGrinch But what you're saying is in direct contradiction to what the video shows and says. What's up with that?
1 like@The Dean of Lean Jeez man, read my comment. Seriously. I said they successfully got the confession because of the video evidence, which the suspect could not worm his way out of. But they would have got the confession quicker and easier had the female interrogator not used that emotional assault strategy. You can literally see the suspect lock up when she starts that.
0 likes@Fred Why is a feminine display of emotion considered irrational but aggression/anger is considered a tactic? Lol no wonder guys fall for women's manipulation all the time, if they're so naive they don't even think a professional interrogator is likely to be putting it on (which, btw, she clearly is).
4 likesno, it isnt a technique. she's just sensitive flower with a child
0 likesYes, it’s emotional attack
0 likes@BodTheGrinch "The surveillance footage was no doubt incriminating evidence, yet wouldn't close out a case on its own that easily."
1 likeThey needed a confession and they got it so clearly it worked. The pressure got him to admit to bringing her to his home.
@Fred did you know that the reason why women are more emotional during menstruation is because their hormones are as closest to a man's more than ever? Testosterone makes people emotional and fly off the handle more often.
0 likes@Jakub Krąkowski Appealing to emotions and ones humanity is indeed a strategy. Literally says it in the video.
1 like@Fred not a millennial but okay
0 likes@The Dean of Lean Come on mate, wakey wakey! I know they needed a confession. Where in my comment did I say they didn't need a confession? I'm saying the emotional assault strategy was not HELPFUL in attaining the confession. If anything, it delayed the confession by making the guy lock up.
0 likes@BodTheGrinch Where in my comment did I say you said they didn't need a confession? The video by itself was not enough for him to confess. It wasn't until pressure was applied that he did.
1 likeWithout being emotionally pressured, would he have confessed? Because he didn't confess as soon as he found out they had video. He likely would have not confessed at all in that interrogation room without that pressure.
Also don't you think if it wasn't helpful the other detective would have allowed it to continue? He doesn't stop her, he just keeps asking questions as well.
@SorryMinati stupider is a word
1 like@The Dean of Lean You know there are various approaches to interrogation, right? Yes, without being emotionally ASSAULTED, he would have confessed, because there are many other approaches to that situation. And this was emotional assault, not emotional pressure. Emotional pressure is much more what I would expect to be a useful strategy here. Like I said, you can literally see the man lock up from the excessive stimulus. It's very evident.
0 likesAnd what do you think the other detective should do if he disagrees with his partners approach? What, stop the interrogation for a moment and say "excuse me, sorry, I don't agree with that approach right now, let's use another strategy"? No, obviously not. Not to mention, judging from what the narrator said, the male detective was most likely aware of what his partner would do beforehand, and agreed with it. I'm not suggesting she was some kind of liability here holding the guy back. I think it was an unhelpful strategy that they devised. Luckily, the suspect was cornered either way, so their approach got the job done.
@Fred simp because they respect women?
2 likes@BodTheGrinch Yes and this is one of those approaches. He had already been confronted bluntly with things like "Where is she, what happened to her" and he was expecting that sort of thing. He continued to deny and say "I don't know" even when the video was brought to light. It wasn't until the emotional "assault" that he started to crack. If it wasn't helpful then how did it get him to confess? Why were the other things that got him to lock up or pause helpful as opposed not helpful?
1 likeThe other detective could have simply motioned to their partner, a little raise of the hand like "hold." They don't need to verbally communicate or have a strategy meeting.
Is him locking up really the only reason you deem it to be unhelpful? Because a helluva a lot of things could cause a suspect to lock up. Asking them a direct question, telling them you have proof, accusing them of the crime, accusing them of lying.
TRIGGGGRED!!!
0 likes@The Dean of Lean "He continued to deny and say "I don't know" even when the video was brought to light. It wasn't until the emotional "assault" that he started to crack."
0 likesNo. She revealed that they had proof and immediately launched into the emotional assault. There was no other approach used in conjunction with revealing the proof. So no, other approaches did not fail after the video was brought up. The crux of your comment is simply wrong.
And no, it wouldn't be a good idea for the detective to start signalling to his partner. The suspect would clearly pick up on that. And that's irrelevant in any case, I already said the strategy was at fault, not specifically the female detective. The male detective would have no reason to interject. He's in on it.
Look mate, if you're not good at interpreting body language, or hell, even actually remembering the order of events here, I can't help you. You should be able to see that the guy is bewildered when the lady starts to unload. He's obviously overstimulated, and with no answer to give, he locks into a 'safe' "I don't know" defense. Not surprising. Again, if you can't interpret that body language, I can't help you.
@Fred The only snowflake around here is you.
2 likesI have worked with lots of men that have emotions all over the place and lots of women that aren't very emotional at all. These things come from nurture not nature
The way the female detective was talking to him was very effective and it worked. All officers are trained to figure out what is the best way to get a suspect's trust and or get them to confess. I can grantee you that the Male officer in this video has questioned a suspect whole being just as emotional as the female officer is and she has also done questioning where she had to be hard on the suspect. Like I said they're trained to figure out the best way to get the confession, and the to act accordingly, it has nothing to do with their genders
@BodTheGrinch We then have different understandings of emotional assault. You say it started immediately, I'm saying it started with "Well, I’m telling you, I’m telling you I’m not lying. I’m not making that up. That’s why I’m so passionate about this." It was after this that he started to crack and went from "I don't know" to non-verbally answering.
1 likeShortly after this he claims they went to his house. His story started to change. Answer me, why did it get results? Why did he start saying different things? Directly before and after the moment you consider the emotional assault his responses were "I don't know" "I didn't do anything" there was hardly any change in his response. After the moment I talked about, there is notable difference in how he responds. He says "I don't know" less, he says he didn't drop her off, said they went to his house, said she left in an uber, talked about them having arguments. Significant more and different information.
So how are you going to say it was an unhelpful strategy, when it helped to get him to give more information, contradict himself and confess? Like what even? Honestly.
@The Dean of Lean Oh be serious. So the wobbling voice and stories about her own kids conveniently doesn't get included in the emotional assault in your opinion? That's hilarious.
0 likesAgain, you can clearly see the man does nothing but get locked in a defensive, confused silence by her approach. Not least because she barely gives him time to respond. Very useful, eh.
And I notice, also very conveniently, you're ignoring the 'alternate question' employed by the other detective, which blatantly lands vastly more effectively than the emotional assault. You can even see a moment where the suspect sighs, clearly responding to the male detective's assurance that they're not necessarily accusing the man of murder. That's also the most recent strategy used before the suspect confesses further details. Isn't that interesting.
@Dior Linn U missed the part where I said I have a woman. Try again.
0 likes@BodTheGrinch No because it does not continue and it is not sustained. The moment I talked about is continued and sustained.
0 likesThe alternative question comes before what I said was the emotional assault. Also the video straight up says the alternative question didn't work.
So what I said was the emotional assault was the most recent tactic used and the alternative question was stated not to work. 28:07 "It was a smart move but the suspect did not fall for it on this occasion."
28:54 is the need for a confession and then how they will apply pressure by going at his character and morals, the emotional assault begins. Very soon after he breaks eye contact and looks away and down. This is a much greater response than from the alternative question. He soon amends his story after the bring it down and by the time he is about to confess he is sniffling.
@The Dean of Lean I don't have time to keep correcting you. The alternative question is used again at 30:47. The male detective appeases the suspect by assuring him (obviously falsely) that they're not accusing him of intentionally doing anything at that point, and asks a slightly different question. This is where the suspect actually responds. And quite clearly this is after the emotional assault was tried and failed.
0 likesThe narrator literally says, right after, that they've now made a breakthrough "by lowering the level of admission". They did this by asking a slightly, you guessed it, alternative question, along with assurance that this wasn't the big confession.
I've made this crystal clear for you now. Do me a favour and don't argue for the sake of it.
@BodTheGrinch So what happened to that body language response you said he had? He had one during the part I talked about but not here.
0 likesWould the detective (falsely) assuring him be part of an alternative question? Because that isn't a alternative, more morally accepting choice, that's a statement. The 'tell us where you went" right after isn't different from the prior questioning.
Also the part that was fast forwarded through after that question and before the route he took is more appealing to his character and morals. You would have to read the actual transcript for that part.
imean were not detectives so lmao of course were dumb and not gonna understand why she does what she does, i agree w u lol
0 likes@Fred i admire your stand up against simps and sensitives.. you have my bow
1 likeI don't think it's a good tactic. The murderer does not care about the family of the victim, he probably hasn't thought about that, which makes him even more defensive after that. The only thing that worked was when they started telling the details about the footage they had.
1 likeYeah it's a psychological tactic that, in the hopes the suspect isn't mentally insane, they use to try and make the suspect see what the mother of said victim thinks and try to make them feel remorse or regret their decision which in turn will hopefully cause them to confess to everything
0 likes@motorbreathjz so respecting a woman is being a simp? A guy just can’t be nice to a woman without expecting sex? Wow that’s just undermining men then. Y’all treat yourselves like animals who can’t control sexual urges and then you wonder why women don’t respect you
0 likes@Dior Linn being more emotional and sensitive is natural for a women.. and that being said when you get gender confused males freaking out when something like that is stated i find it troubling and not respecting a women but respecting a fragile concept or idea in their delusional minds
1 like@Gabrielle Fournell in an effort to mock me you actually paraphrased and mocked the comment I was replying to. In effect, that was the point made in the post I was replying to - that the two are not equal in obtaining a confession
0 likes@SorryMinati no, stupider is a word
0 likes@U lmao you think this is a date?
0 likes@Fred says the one calling ppl a simp u seem like the type to throw a tantrum after being rejected
1 like@Gabrielle Fournell here’s the first thing I’ll say - you’ve now insulted me (albeit passive aggressively) twice, which I haven’t done to you. I’d first ask if there is a difference or some reason why people can’t insult the detectives approach but it’s ok for you to insult people to defend your point? Secondly, I was using hyperbole to express what your point means, which is that if something works ( your example was a batters technique, I don’t know baseball but I guess I figure what you mean ) then it’s not for us to judge how it worked, rather that the result is good. My point is, because you seemed to have missed it, that we can and should criticise methods despite the outcome. Whether or not this technique is “right or wrong” is not really what I’m arguing at all.
0 likes@James wow. Nope. Saying alternative techniques that are effective used by experts in a field and hurt no one shouldn't be judged by laymen is not the same as saying torture is acceptable as long as it's effective. And accusing someone of meaning the latter because they said the former is not "hyperbole." It's using an extreme and twisted strawman. It's also pretty insulting.
0 likesI don't owe you this explanation, but in short the way people are attacking this woman sparks from a much greater issue of rampant sexism. Not one person has a critique on the male detective's techniques, nor do they on any of the other videos on this channel (as far as I've seen) of male detectives. Suddenly, a female detective is fair game for people who know nothing about her job to criticize because of a history and culture of assuming men know better than women, mansplaining, and calling women "too emotional" for crying while a man in the same room literally murdered someone in anger and they don't jump to calling him "emotional." I've lived my whole life with this shit. One example is you taking a point I made about experts knowing what they are doing and trying to turn it into me saying there are zero exceptions, even for war crimes. It is exhausting, infuriating, and personal. If you're insulted by me saying you don't know what a pirouette is or what "strike out" or that you use strawman arguments, I can't help you. Those are just facts, by your own admission.
@motorbreathjz This concept that men can’t have emotions is hurtful to men. Lmao y’all oppress yourselves by calling each other “pussies” when a man shows the slightest bit of emotion. Men experience emotions too. Anger for an example, that’s an emotion that everybody feels. Being emotional has nothing to do with gender like y’all make it out to be. Y’all want to paint this narrative of women being weak, sensitive and emotional so bad. Being emotional has to do with your upbringing and character traits, not your gender
0 likes@Gabrielle Fournell You're right that you don't owe me anything Gabrielle, and I am not offended about not knowing about baseball terminology -- but if you accuse me of not knowing about football (soccer) then I may take offense! haha. Intimating that I am 'thick' would be considered insulting by some, and at no point have I personally insulted you. You may feel offended by my opinion, but that is different, naturally. I am still curious to know why you can insult me but other people can't insult the detective though. To go back to my original point then, I was illustrating that ends don't justify the means, in the sense that even if it worked, the technique cannot be beyond scrutiny. And that is all people are doing -- scrutinising the technique. We have video evidence that it was used in this case but I think it's open to interpretation whether or not it 'worked' in this instance. Regardless, they use it, so it must have a adequate chance of success. You are a layman expressing your opinion and admiration for the detective, are you not? Is it not reasonable that there are people who have a differing and contrasting opinion to yours?
0 likes@Minxywaters That isn't why women are more emotional during menstruation at all. Also, a woman's hormones are "closer" to a man's during menopause than they are during menstruation - not that this has any significance to anything at all.
0 likesWomen also naturally express more negative emotions than men, this is a fact.
I don't understand why people just make things up in juvenile men vs women arguments for one-upmanship sake. These kind of arguments are dumb in any case, as though one gender is better or worse than the other in some way, based purely on their gender alone, because the human brain is that simple.
@Dior Linn "Become gay"? I don't think that's how a person's sexual orientation works.
0 likes@Dior Linn Why are you typing your ill informed opinions as facts? Emotions absolutely have a lot to do with gender. Pick up a book, use Google. You have so many resources freely available to you and rather than utilise them, you instead type a bunch of opinions (which are incorrect) as though they're factual just because you seemingly dislike the idea that men and women aren't actually the same (shocker).
0 likesDo you have any idea what the odds are of males and females having evolved the exact same way in regards to their hormones over thousands and thousands of years in order for our emotions to be the same or for gender itself to be irrelevant/not a factor? That's virtually impossible. This is ignoring the fact that we know hormones between men and women vary and that hormones play a large part in our expression of emotion as humans. All of this and you're seriously claiming that gender doesn't play a role in emotions? Men and women are not the same and to point this out is not sexist at all. Anybody who behaves as though it is, is ignorant and obviously not very bright.
@Chris Thanks. I kinda did this knowing that people would try to gang up on me, it's how people work these days when someone has a different opinion. A fun little experience to show how predictable they can be 😁
1 likeNotice how especially the women get all riled up over a few comments. I obviously string them along for dramatic effect. Just goes to show my initial point, that they indeed act out on emotions more than men (on average). And the white knights will join the party, works every time.
People get so easily offended these days it's scary.
@Dior Linn simply agreeing that women are naturally more emotional.. that doesnt mean were saying us dudes aint.. upbringing does make a difference.. but yes.. a women is generally on a big scale more sensitive than a man.. i mean come on..
0 likes@The Dean of Lean I'm afraid you've reached the point where you're literally ignoring the narrator when he explains exactly what caused the suspect to confess.
0 likesOh and I'm more than happy for you to try to derail things with semantics. You can call it an alternative question, which it clearly is, or a combination of other techniques, call it whatever you want, the point is that it isn't part of the emotional assault. It's a completely different approach, and the narrator literally said it led to the confession. If you've seen other videos on this channel, you'll see it used elsewhere.
Now that you're actually ignoring the narrator when he says in clear terms what caused the confession, I'll waste no more time here.
@BodTheGrinch You ignored the additional dialogue that isn't in this video but is in the transcript, I even linked it. You also didn't mention the body language bit you talked about earlier. He hardly had any body language respone when you claimed he did, but he did have a response at the part I pointed out.
0 likesIs it semantics? Because earlier the detective asked "could it have been an overdose" that is clearly an alternative question and gives him a more morally accepting choice, but this other time he asked where she was which they had been asking the entire time and it's not. It might not even matter because the omitted part I talked about is right after that and again goes into his character and morals.
The narrator doesn't say an alternative question got him to confess (he also doesn't confess yet but amends his story) He does say they lowered the level of admission and that they got a foot in the door but that isn't exclusive to an alternative question.
Your original claim was that the emotional assault was unhelpful. I claimed otherwise, citing the things said directly before he amends his story, which are going at his character and morals. For the confession itself, pressuring his emotions directly proceeds it.
Again, directly before pivotal moments and breakthroughs, it's pressure on his character, morals and emotions. If this was not helpful that would not have happened. I can not stress enough how telling it is that things happened when he was pressured. You have the face the facts, the emotional assault/pressure whatever you want to call it was indeed helpful.
@The Dean of Lean Which is exactly what I said - "Women also naturally express more negative emotions than men, this is a fact."
0 likesNone of my comments had anything to do with women acting on emotions rather than reason, that was somebody else. In fact, everything you've claimed I've said in your comment was actually said by "Fred", not me.
If you're going to reply, please at least check that you are replying to the right person. I realise that both of our "avatars" are similar in colour, but seriously, this is just lazy of you.
@D Jackson My bad, I replied to the wrong person. You're comment was right above Fred's and both of your profile pics are orange. I should have paid more attention, I am sorry.
0 likes@Fred Um, a quick Google search is showing that women are more emotionally expressive not outright more emotional. It's mainly because of social and cultural reasons rather than biological that men and women express emotion differently.
0 likesOne of your first comments was that women act on emotions rather than reason. Is that actually backed by facts? That seems more like an ill informed opinion more than a fact. As I already mentioned, the amount of emotions experienced are the same between men and women. Men do not experience emotion less frequently than women do. In fact, a quick search is showing that what you said isn't appearing to be true. Women don't act based emotion more than men do.
Also isn't your comment about men resolving problems with violence a contradiction to your claim of women acting more on emotion than men?
You talked about how the women get especially riled up and then the white knights show up, but a man was the first person to respond to your comments. There also seems to be a roughly even distribution of responses from both sexes.
@The Dean of Lean Just linked studies in comments above, didn't u see them?
0 likes@Fred No, there aren't any links from you. YouTube must have deleted them. It's doing that a lot more often lately.
0 likesAt the end, he was NOT crying for her. He was crying for himself.
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@Another stimulating comment He definitely had a lot of conflict within himself, he's not all bad, not a psycho who enjoys killing.
73 likescorrect. He cursed at her for his situation also. He deserves to be in jail forever.
36 likesAnother stimulating comment you’re**
5 likes@iamlight no he doesn't, he's just made a silly mistake, he is redeemable, lee rodarte is the real victim here.
9 likes@Alolan Vulpix Getting Railed Lee is the real victim....not the murdered girl with injuries to 75% of her body?
60 likes@Jassy Exactly. I think its hard for most people to grasp the fact that he just ENDED HER LIFE. People dont just decide to do something that drastic, that is a decision that has to be reasoned out and then delivered.
13 likes@S E B Plenty of people have killed while in a fit of rage. The concept of "crime of passion" is very real.
17 likes@Alolan Vulpix Getting Railed i hope this comment isn't serious
9 likes@Another stimulating comment He then pleaded Not Guilty. So much for remorse.
22 likesGiven his immediate situation, it's rather logical that he's not lamenting his victim (he killed her and can't change that any more) but rather himself (considering the bleak "future" before him).
27 likesAnd given that in his mind she may have even provoked the crime, it would be strange if he suddenly started empathizing with her after just sinking into much deeper shit than he was in already. So in sum, he did something he regrets a lot, tried to cover his ass as best as he could, failed, and is now suffering from the consequences of his actions.
That doesn't make him some hardened psycho murderer, just an average cowardly impulsive dude who made a terrible mistake.
@Asami Yuki Look at the name you had to tag to ask. Of course it's satire lol
1 like@Cellkist yes i noticed it after >..<
0 likesI disagree here. There was both.
2 likes@Tylenial Have you ever seen a case were they pleaded guilty and you thought to yourself "Ah, that's nice of him. He may have killed an innocent person and burned their remains but at least he admitted to it. That changed my perception of his person!" There are a ton of people pleading guilty but never have i seen someone giving them any form of credit for it. At least in murder cases like this.
8 likeswell we don't know that or what drugs he was on
2 likesYou can do a terrible thing and feel bad about it why do you think that's not possible. Humans have done horrible things for the whole of history its an aspect of being human.
5 likes@Alolan Vulpix Getting Railed "silly mistake" wow never knew murder could be consider a "silly mistake"
5 likesHe even cusses about her when he is crying "f#ucking savannah". But there is no way in knowing how he feels. He may feel no remorse in this clip but does for years to come while he is in jail. But i do feel like he felt guilty considering he confessed so fast, most people wont do that if they dont feel remorse. But he says so many conflicting things outloud so who knows
3 likesProbably knows the police are watching and he is been recorded so is putting on this act of remorse to get a shorter sentence.
3 likes@Another stimulating comment it seemed like he was trying to blame her in a way that isn't super obvious
2 likesit was all about him, how he was affected by her and how HIS life was supposed to be different, how HE was supposed to be better
I do believe that he does feel bad for killing her but it seems like its second to his loss of freedom
@Cellkist holy shit, I didn't notice the full name until you brought it up lol
0 likesBut maybe we have to pity ourselves before we can pity others. And come to think of it, all tears are a response to how we feel. All feelings are by the self for the self.
1 like@iamlightdefine forever
0 likes@El Scourou all tears are for the self
0 likesHe may not be as cruel as the monsters we've seen before but he's definitely crying only for himself
3 likesNo I think he was truely remorseful for having killed her!!!
2 likes@Jassy Wrong, sometimes the magnitude of ones actions takes time to realize and understand!!
2 likes@Cupit that's the result of legal counsel. Lawyer's pay scales are directly related to their success rates!
1 like@Asami Yuki.
0 likes@P Miles ?
0 likesAlolan Vulpix Getting Railed Berr nice b8
0 likesTotally. His first stress reaction was “Fucking Savannah” and “why are you so stupid” so only sorry he got caught. Toen after relaxing a bit hè probably remembers there’s camera’s everywhere and starts talking to himself. Who does that unless you know you are being recorded and want to redeem yourself a bit.
1 like@Cupit that's an obvious action for anybody who does not want to go to jail for the rest of their lives. It has nothing to do with remorse
0 likes@Epoch of An Era Nobody wants to go to jail. He should realise that's where he belongs and go willingly.
0 likesHe's not sad for Savannah. He's crying because he feels bad for himself and what will happen to him. He still has so much anger towards her. He's not sorry because she died, he's sorry because he's scared for himself.
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Imagine not killing anybody and not cryin' in the corner
51 likesI think he made a mistake and panics.
36 likesWell im not sorry for him. He had everything but the little boy wanted even more and someone and both the family had to pay. He just loves himself
62 likesSeems like there was a lot going on - can't say I know the guy personally but it's absolutely possible to have anger towards someone and not (long term) want them dead.
32 likesI agree
1 likeI think he feels remorse but also pity for himself. But none of us truly know what he felt at this moment.
46 likes@Super.Chuck When does he state she broke up with him?
1 like@Super.Chuck every guy wants a girl dead when she breaks up with him? What kind of guys do you know damn
31 likesYup. It’s the “I’m gonna get fucking killed in prison” statement for me.
22 likesDread is dread. Fear for ones own mortality is not unwarranted, especially here. Dude destroyed himself and her. And will suffer for the rest of his existence for his terrible decisions.
5 likesHowever his plea is pretty dumb. And clearly he is not willing to own what he’s done.
If you practice exploring narrative you can feel a portion of that with proper focus. Imagine you with someone’s dead body in your hands. And you had to deal with the rest of your life like that. It’s horror. Just horror. Even worse horror if you actually did it. Now you probably wouldn’t, but that doesn’t change the horror on the other side, so you can imagine it just fine. If it helps erase recall of the events leading up to it. Or don’t and imagine you somehow did. It’s easier if you’ve found the part of yourself and everyone, who could’ve been a monster with the right trauma and wrong choices. As a child.
Could be a monster with the right trauma perhaps now. What it’d take? Being on the end of some war or hunger is where it you can find it usually.
I even think that when he is talking to himself, the "fuck Savannah" is honest, but then he remembers that he is being recorded, and the "I'm sorry Savannah" is an act for the camera/microphone. No way to know for sure of course but that felt so fake
19 likes@Emmi Su if he felt remorse he wouldn't be lying
4 likes@Mamuff where did you pull that "rule" from? A person can lie their ass of and still feel remorse. We all have a survival instinct to get out of a situation like this. It doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't remorseful because he lies to get out of this.
4 likesLol? how do you know what he’s sad for? you a mind reader or something?
6 likeshe apologized to savannah... twice
2 likesYou may as well tell us that the sky is blue.
0 likesI don't know, I've watched a few of these interrogation videos, and he somehow strikes me as more redeemable than others. He may not be pure evil, but he fucked up massively.
2 likessomeone who takes a life will always be wrong, but i wouldn’t say that everyone who murders is immediately selfish and immune to guilt, considering he confessed says a lot.
0 likes@Madisen Fitzpatrick you wouldn’t fear that, as he’s crying he’s so sorry😀
0 likesYea the worst. A dealer woman trapper. I make fun of these guys all the time. They know better than to respond. Go on home!!
0 likes@W R he definitely isn’t evil at all he never intended for this to happen
0 likesCan you blame a human being for snapping in the moment? You can definitely see he regrets it when he's crying, not saying it's justified but you gotta remember we're all humans, anger, fear, sadness all emotions that make you do stuff in the moment
1 like@DCJanssen he regrets it so much and has tried to reach out to her family and understands that they don’t wanna speak with him
2 likesWhat's your point?
0 likes@Mik Hail dude, she tried to get out 3 times. This was no mistake. You don't accidently drag some one back in a car and burn them in your back yard.
15 likes@Amanda Vaughan mistake happened before that. They probably argued then went physical (mistake) kidnapped her (panic).
0 likesI think he felt some remorse.
1 like@DCJanssen You can most definitely blame a human for murdering someone… That is not snapping, that is taking someone’s life. Yeah everyone does stuff in the moment but breaking someone’s neck, burning their body, and dumping it into a river is not “snapping in the moment”. That is an inhumane act of cruelty. He took her life and ruined the lives of her family members and friends. So yeah, you can definitely blame him. And yeah he regrets it, only because he got caught. He doesn’t regret killing her. Stop playing devils advocate.
12 likes@Miamish Why the hell would they want to speak to him? He killed a member of their family, burned her body, and dumped her in a river?? He only wants to speak to them so he can receive some sort of reconciliation for himself, not for them. If he cared so much about her family he would’ve at least had the decency to turn himself in immediately instead of allowing the family to keep wondering what happened to her. If he feels so bad about this, why does he only begin to show emotion after he confesses? He’s crying because he knows he’s going to prison, not because he feels bad for killing her. I don’t know why you are trying so hard to make it look like this guy feels bad, or is somewhat of a good person. You’re weird for doing that.
6 likes@j he knew they wouldn’t speak to him and he UNDERSTANDS that. How do you know that he only reached out for himself? You do NOT know him. He’s been traumatised and been feeling the guilt every single day. Also, yes he could’ve gone to the police but he was too scared they weren’t gonna listen to him. Again, I’m not justifying what he did AT ALL. But I know this man is not evil because I know him. And that’s it.
1 like@Miamish Because why would he reach out to the family? What good would that do for them? If someone murdered one of my loved ones and then tried to reach out to me I would be hysterical. But you’re right though, I don’t know him personally, but I have a pretty good idea of how people like him operate. In the end he cared far more about saving face instead of doing the one thing he actually should’ve done for the family, which was turning himself in and giving them immediate closure. Also he could’ve plead guilty instead of dragging on the trial and further putting off the justice Savannah’s family deserved. I don’t know why he was scared of the police not listening to him because well it’s not like he could’ve said anything to defend himself since he did murder her.
1 like@j yo I’m not even gonna bother explaining cos you’re never gonna be willing to understand. It’s annoying cos when people don’t reach out, we think they don’t care and when they do reach out it’s also a problem. People would never be happy. He reached out keeping in mind that they will not want to speak with him and he understood that. I don’t think you know how he operates lol. Anyone who knows him would tell you how nice of a guy he is and would’ve never expected him to do something like this. He did such a horrible thing and then panicked. He honestly could’ve gone on and pretended not to have done a single thing but confessed and gave the location of the body. All I can say is right now, he’s living every day with regret. People CAN change. Especially someone who never thought they’d ever get into something like this. That’s all I’m gonna say.
1 like@j I agree but i mean I personally think he accidentally snapped her neck, he didn't think "I'm going to kill her" burning her body and covering up for himself is just basic survival instinct, it's self preservation, not that that's a good thing, you can blame him, but I don't think he had the intentions of murdering her
0 likes@j it's not that I'm saying it's good, it's definitely not, and I'm not trying to be devils advocate, but I just can't blame humans, we all say where sophisticated, but at the end of the day we're more animal like then animals
0 likesHe even slashed her car tyres after killing her. Disgusting man
5 likes@Kevin the Rhea ikr. He said it like it was normal? Some guys just have a fragile ego ig
0 likesWhat a basic comment
0 likesDuh
0 likesand?? he killed her. why would he cry about her? whats your point? it's not like it was an accident
0 likes@W R He may not be pure evil? What's your point? Is it he doesn't deserve the forty years?
0 likes@Mik Hail I suppose you think Ted Bundy was a poor misunderstood soul.
0 likes@Vlad Imir For himself perhaps.
0 likes@Michael McGee No, he deserves the forty years. Do me a favor though, don't respond to me again. I just don't have the energy for you.
0 likes@Emmi Su He strangled her and watched the life go out of her eyes. He has no remorse.
0 likes@Miamish You've got a morally skewed take.
0 likes@Miamish You have cognitive dissonance. A person who would will relentlessly strangle someone to death as thet tried to escape is not nice person by definition.
0 likes@Mik Hail Murder is Not a mistake.
0 likes@Josiah Whatever you're taking I'd advise you to stop.
0 likes@Miamish Do misunderstood sweethearts slash tires as well.
0 likesHe's emotional because he got caught
0 likesHe probably blames his victim for the murder
0 likesAh yes, textbook knowledge you gave us there with your degree straight from "Cereal Box University"
0 likesMaybe, I could see him feeling some remorse though. The ramblings at the end seem genuine and there seemed to be some regret... "i'm sorry savannah", "she was nice to you" ...stuff like that. I do agree that concern for himself is probably the dominant concern. At the end the very first thing he said when he was by himself was , "Mom, I'm gonna die in jail" and the remorse came later.
0 likesDo you guys think he’s actually the one that decided to take things slow, or back off of the relationship as he states?
159 likesFrom everything I can see, it was probably the exact opposite, and Lee was a bit scorned... maybe even a lot scorned going into their final few interactions.
Lee is projecting a lot of his own insecurities on to a young woman that is no longer around to defend herself.
A real class act.
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I feel like he was the druggie too. Or he got her into doing drugs with him, or used drugs to get with her. He seemed all too happy to tell them how much of a druggie she was.
24 likesEgo can be a killer. Just ask OJ.
5 likesAngie Baby Oh! So you think he may have been the one that was actually deep into the drug use and dragging her along with... I bet you’re right. It was all sort of a ploy to smear her character enough to make it seem logical that she’d just up and leave. I bet you are spot on there.
18 likesSuspicious Ned Flanders - She was young as hell at the time of her death, while he was much older and a superior at her job. Classic and obvious manipulation dynamics at play
14 likesDante Goodman He was almost 30 right? Or he may have been 30 when it happened, and she was in her early 20s. He’s a chef, she’s a hostess... yeah definite power dynamic in play. Sadly for her, she was ultimately dealing with a little boy with little or no impulse control.
8 likesAngie Baby She was probably only speaking to him because she got drugs that way. She stood at his car window, chatting, for fifteen minutes before getting into his car, so there was SOME reason she was there of her own free will for so long before sh’t got ugly, right?
5 likeshis words when he is alone paint a different picture "you could have just told her to leave you alone"...we will never know, but there was no reason to lie there, he was thinking aloud.
5 likesguachingman Exactly. I think he was her dealer and he used and manipulated her so that she’d keep coming back. For romance and for drugs, maybe.
4 likesguachingman - I have no doubt that it’s likely the victim was going to make life difficult for Rodarte at his job. But damn. The worst outcome is he gets fired (probably just gets yelled at by management and reprimanded). Even if fired, its an easily replaceable job (there’s restaurants on every street). Getting fired sucks, but in the end its a minor hiccup. That’s why rodarte was in such mental anguish at the end. He threw his life away, and ruined so many lives, over a very minor issue that would have resolved itself in its own
6 likes@guachingman he knows the camera is there. He does have reason to lie and say some bullshit like that in hopes for some kind of defense in court. Now im not saying he is lying or not but just that he does have reasons for saying something like that.
4 likesEm Gee there was no drugs in her system
3 likesDante Goodman My hypothesis here is pretty simple, Rodarte had almost no coping skills, and a fragile ego/ narcissism. When there was an emotional upheaval that directly challenged his ego, he became extremely distraught, the emotions were overwhelming and he acted on base impulse.
2 likesThis is not to absolve him of agency, but to explain the sequence that led an otherwise sane person (albeit weakened by drug use, again no coping skills) to kill an innocent young lady.
Natalie gonzalez I missed that, thank you. But still, she did stand at his car window for awhile before getting in, so she must have had some sort of relationship with him. Do you have a timestamp of when they say no drugs were in her system? Or was the info elsewhere?
0 likesJoseph Berkeley - Agreed. And Rodarte hid his inner demons pretty well. It seems most everyone had a high opinion of him. He was a well hidden time bomb that unfortunately blew in the back of that car.
1 like@MegaJdizzle27 Based on what?
0 likesYou can really see the Lee's character shine through when, despite being here due to his own actions that resulted in the death of an innocent girl, he still says "f*cking Savannah" and appears to try to place the blame on her. As if it were the victims fault he had decided to murder her. Pathetic and disgusting.
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You couldn’t have said it better
17 likesAGREE
2 likesYes, I was feeling sorry for him until he said that too.
9 likesThat plus the "F*cking stupid," Who says they were stupid for murdering? More like stupid for confessing/being seen/being caught. Anyone who really regretted murdering someone because murder is bad would see how terrible they are. Instead of stupid, they would see themselves as some sort of monster.
17 likes@Mrs Smith 'feeling sorry for him'? Good grief.
28 likesHe also said "I'm so sorry Savannah... I'm so sorry Savannah." A roller coaster of regret was going on.
31 likesShe was the reason he murdered her. Doesn’t make it justified and as I’m sure he’s finding out, the consequences of what he did aren’t worth keeping a job at Bonefish or whatever
5 likesSo true
0 likesit doesnt matter. he just killed someone.
3 likesMm hm, it’s probably quite crass to say, but through his whole crying episode all I was thinking of to describe him is that he’s a p***y. He murdered this young lady and he’s going to cry about losing his life and the last time he’ll wear his chef outfit as well? I think he only regrets being caught which I feel from what you said about when he mentioned ‘f***** Savannah’ like he was angry.
7 likesHe also cried in great anguish saying was so sorry and how savannah was nice to him and he should have just told her to leave him alone. It is clear remorse and you choose to ignore it. Human emotions are complicated. Stop picking parts to fuel your own desire for cheap justice in the comment section.
9 likes@Alexander LI remorse DOES NOT excuse murder. He feels remorse and guilt, sure. That does not alleviate or excuse what he’s done. He needs to be punished for that.
6 likes@Gentle Khajiit mmm. yeah. you're right that remorse does not excuse murder. All i was saying is that when we recognise a killer, we ought to also recognise their humanity. In turn, we accept that we all have the capacity to do evil. This makes us a lot more self aware and less prone to evil. (Having humanity does not mean you don't get punished! We don't only punish monsters!)
11 likes@Gentle Khajiit you would all be different if she killed him.
2 likes@Secret Soul Survivor He felt NOTHING for her the ONLY thing he felt was regret he got caught. That's it.
1 like@Michael McGee what’re you talking about mate?
0 likesHe plead for that shit because he wouldn’t have wanted a harsh sentence. Of course it wasn’t self defence. I don’t know what you’re responding to, I was responding to someone else’s comment.
I don’t believe a murder should be given any excuses - they should be punished.
@Gentle Khajiit okay true, maybe we can't murder like he did when his life is In a pretty normal position, rising career, etc. But we can certainly be absolutely screwed over by life, completely mind fckd to a point of delirium and desperation, and slip into dark places.
2 likes@Ziggy Pop idk i could sort of sympathize
0 likes@MsZsc Really? That is very, very scary. Sympathising with a murderer. 🚩🚩🚩🚩
1 like@Ziggy Pop right!!!
0 likes@Secret Soul Survivor Regret he lost his freedom.
0 likesWe started of with “what pretending to be crazy looks like” and now we’re here
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These vids are so cool
22 likesDamnit, that's exactly how I started on these videos.
25 likesDude. With this video, im finished with this channel :D i mean I watched all of them already 🤣🤣🤣 now I gotta find some more 😁
8 likeswe all did
4 likesyes
0 likesLol right
0 likes3 hours later...
0 likesI’m bummed this is the last video I’m watching on this channel and I don’t know what to do right now
4 likesNah, I started with "Jennifer's Solution"
4 likesSame here... and this guy having a breakdown and talking to himself would have been more believable to be hearing demons than Nikolas in the other video
0 likesI started with The Legend Of Jeff
0 likesI started with Casey Anthony
0 likesPls so true 😭
0 likes@Jenny Cristin Can I interest you in football (soccer)? Euro 2020 is starting tonight.
0 likesStarted with the Watts interview
0 likesomg EXACTLY! haha
0 likesYou’re late to the party but we’re glad you’re here now
0 likesI started with the Chris Watts video I think.
0 likesSo did I!!!
0 likesThat video is the gateway drug.
0 likesHow do you know!!!
0 likesGlad we're all here for the same reason
0 likeswe are addicted now
2 likesI've been watching him for months.
2 likesyup
0 likesbeen binge watching the heck outta this channel lately....fkin amazing!
0 likesI love this channel. The things I've learned here could be really useful when I finally snap.
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That's exactly the kind of thing I'm afraid of, let's not help guilty people!
33 likesThere is no way he would've gotten out of that with all the surveillance footage anyway
😂
2 likesI know my hubby says he feeling worried lol I watch loads of them
10 likes🥴🙃😭😂 FACTS 😂😂😂😂
1 like😂😂😂
1 like😆😆
1 likeWhat is this? I don't remember writing this post ... at all.
23 likesI'd just be like Mike from Breaking Bad. "Lawyer."
3 likes👀
0 likesPeople of the jury, pleas see exhibit 1:
3 likesFollowing
0 likesNow I remember and I certainly was not expecting so much attention. I was just kidding guys!
20 likesIf I were going to snap, I wouldn't get caught alive.
Yooo I’m dead ☠️
0 likes@ the CIA guy assigned to watch what I do on the internet......... This guy right here, check this out.
8 likesThe joke will be on them when they realize where I actually live.
3 likesAmen
0 likesThis made me laugh, can't say I haven't thought that a couple of times while watching this channel
2 likesRemember just say I want a lawyer and nothing else
5 likesLol 💀
1 likeI'm going to do some low levels crimes first get some practice in before the big one
5 likesI was thinking the same thing
1 likeFunny as shit bro!!!
1 likeNo mistakes please!! Lol
1 likeLol no you won't. They released these things to make people like you think they know 🤣🤣🤣🤣
2 likesLol me to msn me to.. i think i am ready
0 likesGet help.
0 likesHhh
0 likesYou need help
0 likes🤣 gold
1 likeTalk less lol
0 likesUmmmmm get help buddy
2 likes@Tetsuo 😂
1 likeGovernment looking at ur comment like 👀👀
3 likesLMAO, true.😄
1 likeI’m screaming hahaha
0 likesLol love it
0 likes@Indy RAWR lawyer up and say you were trying to get her to a hospital because she wasa trippin on heroin and yoi feared she might overdose(helos explain the door kicks)..she tried to jump out, so you gave up and you let her out.
1 likeMy fear has always been that even if I was absolutely innocent I would be so anxious being questioned by police I would appear guilty
3 likes@Player One referring to Humbert Humbert?
0 likesHelps now
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likes@Mandi Tierney it's just the only choice you have when talkin to police
0 likesInto a Slim-Jim?
0 likesYou should never actually need anything here because you should never talk to the police in the first place.
4 likesHahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
0 likes😅😂😂😂🤣😂😂🤣😂
0 likesAnd now you are on a watchlist lmao
1 like@Lolien referring to OP comment
0 likes👀
0 likesI hereby volunteer to be your alibi (allegedly)
0 likes@Brian Woodruff malicious mischief is an excellent starting point for novices. Train a dozen cats to steal from neighbors.
1 like@@Frostydei Just tell them that at [convenient time frame] you had just committed the mistake of saying "Hi" when we randomly crossed paths at [convenient location] and how you had to spend the next 5 hours listening to a spiel on how absolutely awesome and life changer "The Ego and its Own" by Max Stirner is. Or tell them you saw me spending 5 hours trying to walk my cat as it if were a dog. Either one will do.
1 likeHad he not talked to the cops he’d probably be free. Even with the surveillance footage they would never have found the body. Crazy to think how many have gotten away with similar things.
0 likesIt will never prepare you for your own internal experience, i am sure it will be terrifyingly unique.
0 likes@Jack O'Jack But then they peg you as being guilty AF. My methods irritate and repel so they eventually just want me to get lost :).
0 likesHaaaaaaaaaa
0 likesFBI would like to know your location
1 like@Da Boss it isn't?
0 likes@Joseph Christ Simply brilliant comment.
0 likesBest comment
0 likes@Indy RAWR I agree, I like the content, but it seems like a lot of information open to anyone, good or bad.
0 likesIts easy just dont talk to cops for any reason.
0 likesLmao!!!
0 likesjust sayin commenting this doesn’t help your case lmfao
0 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Indy RAWR true these videos provide so much information you can take tips.
0 likesHi I’m good oio
0 likesLmao right!!!
0 likesI mean sure. But you wouldn’t know how you’d react if you were in the situation, god forbid you ever become a disgusting criminal though
0 likesYou just made me spit my coffee out
0 likes@Jason Chau hey some people are just good at it.
0 likesnervously laughing
1 likeHa haaaaa! My best friend has been warned-she May have to give an interview in front of Book Shelf Green screen & shes gonna have to pull it the F together. 😝🤣
1 like..aint it
0 likes@Mandi Tierney asking for a lawyer gets me off.
0 likesFacts
0 likesLmao I just woke my girl friend from laughing too hard at this comment.
0 likesDefeats the benefits when you pre-out yourself in the comment sections of true crime videos...
0 likesBut i know what you mean..me too.
@@Frostydei yes good plan I 'll be a cat burglar of old London Town
0 likes@Zac Hobson it's the only thing u can do
0 likesI didnt say it would save u
Give that female interrogator an Emmy. She puts exactly enough emotion in her voice. I almost pled guilty and I'm not even from the US.
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What does you not being from the US have to do with this ?
2 likes@Justin C I think he means he doesn't exactly know our grammar, diction, etc as good as he does his own native language.
6 likes@Justin C I mean: The last time I was in the US is roughly 13 years ago. There's no way I had anything to do with this but the way she plays on emotions makes me want to confess.
10 likesI didn't like the female interrogator's style at all. She was too emotional for an interrogation. The interrogation should not be a "please confess to me or else I will cry". It should have an analytical and psychological strategy.
63 likes@Kaya Karakaya At the end of the day they knew they had the criminal they just wanted to fuck his brain up so they could stop wasting their time.
8 likesKaya Karakaya but it worked tho
8 likes@Kaya Karakaya One might argue the emotional pleading is very effective in this scenario in terms of increasing the pressure. Particularly because he'd killed a woman who might've pleaded for her life.
29 likesYou say interrogations have to be analytical and psychological. But the female interrogator IS being analytical and is using psychology theory to weaken his state of mind. It's not right to assume she's not calm internally when she is clearly communicating to her partner to back off on several occassions (by tapping him with her foot). Her approach is very much a strategy they chose to use on this guy specifically because they've determined he's weak to it. If they had a psychopath in front of them they wouldn't go that route.
0000 0000 it worked despite of it, not because of it. Actually she ruined the integration a bit, lucky the suspect was weak enough
9 likesNLTops YT comments section philosopher. What makes you think you can’t? Simplest brain cells can distinguish that. 😯
0 likesBut it didn't accomplish anything. So it was just cringey
5 likes@Kaya Karakaya Maybe it works but I found it annoying as hell as well. I was postponing getting some food from the kitchen because I was too lazy but instantly got up and went for it.
2 likesHsi body language might be a sign too. He seemed to tense up during the confrontation of her questions, I think someone who is genuinely innocent might speak back a lot more against her persistence. One would think
3 likes@Kaya Karakaya "I didn't like The female interrogator Style" What is that Shopping in Wallmart?
5 likesThis people learn psychology and doing Advanced Training as interrogations,There is no such thing as "Style" The acting They do on certain levels is crucial for a confrontation with a Suspect,it's all Based on the Cooperation and how they think the best approach with every person should be.
and I really Think she timed it perfectly while the male interrogator pressured him to admit and tell them the truth,and she played it very well using the Mom and Daughter subject Reference :)
lmao
0 likesAlblooshi that just proves how smart her strategy really was. she knew he was weak and used emotional tactics to get him to cave. it wasnt luck, she knew exactly what to do.
2 likes@NLTops Right. So tell me how you know Savannah?
0 likesWhy is the period of confession held back? To me that is suspect that maybe the detectives beat him up.
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Lol ur weird! The full interrogation is already released and no one touched him.
0 likes@Johanna it’s not in THIS video, that is all. Could you point me to it please? And why did you call me weird? Are you ten years old?
0 likesThe female detective came at him with so much disarming emotion, you can see him freeze up in total shock immediately. He just shrinks beneath it.
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i don’t see it lmaooo. i don’t think she did that great of a job tbh he didn’t seem to care
56 likesI think the female detective came across as ingenuine and unnatural. Not sure if that matters in the end
52 likesShe was straight begging him. If it were me it would immediately take me out of the interrogation. If a detective was literally begging and pleading with you to give a confession if feel like it would take most people out of the situation
37 likes@Super Duper well said
3 likesI do feel like they played a game of Good Cop, Hysterical Mom Cop. But you can tell it was a deliberate tactic, which is what I watch these videos for. The strategies on both sides.
33 likesSuper Duper mommy issues alert loooool. Regardless, that was the point. That was an intentional tactic. Calmly asking questions and stating facts clearly doesn’t always work. I would find that incredibly easy to resist, but seeing real human pain would shake me.
17 likesYeah and i think that helps with getting his confession. He was pretty uncomfortable with her tactics and it helped crack him open. Inteerogations arent meant to be a talk between two friends, its all about creating a character and strategy according to the suspect's demeanor.
12 likesSuper Duper to be fair they already had sufficient evidence that he was lying. He claimed she stepped out of his car into a green SUV and it drove off; While security cameras never saw her leave or saw said green SUV.
5 likesThey could have had waited a bit longer and had him dig more lies before jumping on him like that, she seemed way too eager to. But I mean they got their confession didn’t they?
Maybe they had information we don’t and know he’s a sucker for motherly love so she went that route and begged him to be a good person for her mother’s sake.
Or she just assumed he held himself in high regard when it came to morals so she just thought begging would work.
I’ve literally never seen this before so it annoyed and took my off guard but what do I know? I’m just a 20 something nerd eating tacos watching this at 2 am.
Super Duper normally yes, but since they’re pressed on time looking for a missing person that they know Lee had information on, the begging and emotional tactic clearly gets to him
2 likesSiisKolkytEuroo I had the same reaction first pass, but then, they’re the professionals and they got a confession so I’m not certain I’m in a position to judge!
3 likesGood points. I kind of hated her, but it worked.
0 likes1:32 "HIS" whereabouts? How blind was the curmudgeon who wrote this?
0 likesTake a shot everytime he says um
0 likesMaybe this name change will keep the video from suffering YouTube's wrath.
5 likesAnyone know his ultimate fate ?
0 likesHe is just feeling sorry for himself! He will be popular with the men in prison.
0 likesSentenced to 40 years...
0 likesThis channel contradicts itself on some of the finer details, when discussing how to detect a lying suspect. It's almost pop psychology.
0 likeswhy doesnt he have more vids
0 likesI imagine this is how Stephen King would sound
0 likesI bet he is chef in prison now 😅
1 likeASK FOR A LAWYER!!!!!!!
0 likesHow Chef Boyarde ruined his life.
0 likesGuy talks about taking PAINKILLERS socially as a mood relaxer. In what class of society does that happen?
0 likesWell done ! so I watched 40 mins of video to find out fuck all.
0 likesNever take Aderall before an interrogation! Doh
0 likesIf nothing else, at least we know lee Is a human man... 🤷
0 likesHe was so lucky.
0 likesWhy would anyone have a surveillance camera that is grainy and you can't make out the person? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the camera?
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the cameras are old and the governments in every country don't want to pay for better equipment
1 likeWhy would you spend money to monitor a parking lot with high definition cameras
0 likeshe's going to jail for murder and he's sad about not being able to wear a chef coat any more
0 likeshe's got his priorities sorted
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Maybe he can work in the prison kitchen...
0 likesSeeing this in 2022. He got 40 years
0 likesSay it with me lee…lawyer
0 likesThis guy snitched on himself or what?
0 likesHe got 40 years
1 likeDon’t tell them shit! Get a attorney !! They are not your friend!!
0 likesWe sawl the tapes Lee! We sawl it!
0 likesThe animal isn’t sorry for killing the girl he is sorry to spend the rest of his worthless life in prison.
1 likethose other true crime channels don’t even come close to this content
0 likesAmerican interview techniques….just repeat the same stuff over and over until they give in.
0 likesIt’s so hollywood.
bruh hes literally acting like a middle schooler. embarrassing tbh.
0 likesAmazed at how these suspects always talk.
0 likesIf I was as innocent as mother Teresa I wouldn’t talk about the weather with the cops.
Once at band camp…😳
0 likesHe should of never of confessed
0 likesWe need more jcs .
0 likesYou're not a chef Working at Bonefish Grille lol. They're glorified cooks.
0 likesLets hope a criminal sees this chanelcus he will now how to become not guilty
0 likesShame on the snowflakes for reporting this channel. If you don't like it, don't watch. This was the only yt channel when there is a new video I stop everything I'm doing to watch it. Legend!
0 likesThis female cop just wanna go home quick
0 likesFemale interviewer needs to go on some courses I think
0 likes🤭
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Thank you! 🙄
0 likesAs an 8year 31BV5. That woman needed to relax. If you know you know.
0 likesI 🤔 think we should stop talking 'you have a mouse in your pocket', by the way I never told you the truth
0 likesMom : im gonna die in jail.. 🥲
0 likesQuestion should be 'Why?"
0 likesWhy'd you do it Lee?
0 likes15:22 i use heroin and its impossible to get paranoid and makes me super confident
0 likesThe rest of the confession is here https://youtu.be/UudPVoO0kjU?t=9739
0 likesRIP Savannah... Rot In HELL LEE!
0 likesWell dressed detectives
0 likesthe female detective is so annoying. if that were me, even if guilty, i'd go 'shut up, shut up, shut up'!
1 likeWhen "Jim" mentions short and concise responses I thought of what Jim Clemente (FBI agent who did a WIRED tradecraft video) said, "When you're telling facts, you simply have to state them. When you're telling a lie, you have to convince the person that what you are about to say is true."
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Believe me
5 likesThat’s a good way of explaining it.
10 likes@Riceracm Just search his name and the Wired video shows as a top result for me.
6 likesHe's not Jim. You don't catch the pun in the name.
1 likeLove Jim. He has a podcast. Real crime profiles. It a great show.
2 likesKristen Cyr g
0 likes@Tucsonan Dude Ah! Good to know. I'll put quotes around his name. I assumed the narrator's name was Jim!
0 likes@A Abernathy Awesome! Thanks for that info. I will definitely check it out.
0 likes@Riceracm how do people not understand how to use a search engine?
0 likes@Riceracm my point is it's pretty weird to ask for a link to a documentary someone mentioned when you have all the info you need to find it on your own.
0 likesLock him up for ever.....
0 likesYou might become a chef in prison
0 likesThe female detective saw that this was going nowhere, so she stopped surfing Facebook on her phone and hounded Lee in confession in minutes 😃
1 likeShe should get a desk job
0 likesWhy do these people not ask for an attorney?
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It makes them “look guilty”
1 likeLee Rodarte, God's Gift To Women.
0 likes"I know your not evil" 1
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
The woman has a shrill voice! 😮
0 likesDetective: how long have you known savanna?
1823 likesLee: "it all started when I was born. Neither of my parents showed up to my birth"
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LMAOO
13 likesYou know what 😂😂😂
2 likes😂😂😂
2 likesOkay I just spit up 😂😂
3 likesI just spewed orange fanta up my nose from laughing so hard!
2 likesLMFAO!!!! Quite a few of the comments were funny and gave me a chuckle but this one for some reason made me laugh so hard I woke up my fiance and our baby and she's pissed... So I blame you for that lol (oh well)... (It was still funny as fuck and I had a hard time trying to tell her cuz I'm laughing so damn hard) LMFAO!!!!
4 likesThe detective is perry the platypus in disguise
11 likes"Aah, great day to be born in an egg"
0 likesSo Doofenshmirtz actually did something truly evil?
4 likesTheir last names were Doofenschmirtz
2 likesHe said he took amphetamine salts within the first 5 min of the video. What would you expect, these videos are ....oooofffff
1 likeI was born in the matrix, what's the joke here ion get it
0 likesWhy do people murder someone.
1 likeYo wasn't talking to them for more then 1 minute before he started snitching....
0 likesDon't do drugs, kids.
0 likes...
...
... and don't kill people.
THIS OFFICER LOOKS LIKE
1 likeJEREMY KYLE
Holy shit. After he confessed and they left him alone, he started acting like Sims do whenever you box them in a room with no exit.
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Chris Fuentes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
13 likes😂😂😂
6 likesOne of the few YT comments that has ever made me genuinely laugh out loud.
22 likesI spat out my water!! I see this 😂
4 likesHa!
3 likesActually, its the Sims acting like one who confessed and realised the consequences. Not the other way around...
2 likesI wish I could laugh react😂
1 likeTHATS EXACTLY WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE OH MY GOD AHAHAH
1 likeLmao! I'm deceased ! (See what I did there )
0 likesI had to Google Sims ... but first I laid here and reread your comment over and over trying to figure out WTF you were finding so funny. I'm old
0 likes163 lb bully.... a little guy that would get killed by any teenager.may he rot in hell
0 likes"hu hu hu huuuu.. hu hu hu huuuuuuu"
0 likesTrue shit lmaao
0 likes@Danny Crockett its a video game.
0 likespeople talk about oblivion dialogue, now i declare this as morrowind dialogue
0 likesWhat was he thinking!?
0 likesOK, THIS guys clearly lying, lmao, not saying he is being truthful. BUT I have had self inflicted neck wounds personally. I dont mind telling people idk. So that actually wasn't unbelievable to me in a different situation. But you know, this guy didn't do that. I have serious mental illness, this guy is Mr. Cool.
0 likesIf I just keep talking, this will all go away!
0 likesNo sympathy for the “human” crying saying “I’m gonna die in jail” when a girl that was only 21 was getting ready for work and had no idea she would live her last terrifying moments that day.
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Women should start dating good man? There are markers in everyone's personality but girls always fell for evil man. Where is the so called women intuition ?
17 likesMost girls murdered are one way or another ironically involved with evil man.
@The Furious Killers people tend to be manipulative to others who cant immediately pick up the behavior. also some men are genuinely crazy and will go out of their way even when a woman decides to stay away.
89 likes@The Furious Killers so what really is the point of your comment.
67 likes@kae yeah whats the point, because this cycle is going to continue over and over.
11 likesI know this because my sister was murdered too.
@The Furious Killers are you blaming this girl for getting literally murdered
81 likes@sunny d Yeh i believe as an adult we are responsible for our own security, what people we chose to be with. There are markers in personalities which yells things.
8 likesI am not directly blaming her but she chose to be with a guy like him.
And please murder is not new thing. Its been done since dawn of human
don’t do heroin
3 likes@The Furious Killers So it's her fault to be murdered and not his fault to murder her...? wat
56 likes@Delightful well murderer is at fault of murdering and part of mistake was her being with that kind of guy.
5 likesI mean there are markersm
Well, he is right. No way he survive it, at least gangrape is comming
1 like@The Furious Killers This may be news to you, but shitty people don’t tend to announce that they’re shitty when getting into relationships. Abusers and the like are often master manipulators, and one of the hallmarks of a manipulator is that they know how to outwardly present themselves so they come across as likeable and charming - thus often avoid suspicion from the people around them.
44 likesIt was said near the beginning of the video that Lee Rodarte was regarded as a popular, charming, and charismatic individual. We weren’t given any indication that Rodarte had behaved violently towards Savannah Gold prior to her murder, so how the hell was she supposed to know what he was capable of doing? People aren’t mind-readers, you know.
The only one to blame for the murder of that poor girl is the murderer himself. Pushing the guilt unto the victim is such an incredibly fucked up thing to do.
@The Furious Killers how would you feel if someone blamed your sister for being killed? Thats what you're doing to this person.
17 likes@Cerberus well i would be angry but we do have free will and can chose who ever we want to be with.
2 likes@The Furious Killers I never said we don't choose who to hang out with. But that doesn't mean being killed was justified. He committed a crime, I agree she could have put herself in a safer situation. But that doesn't mean she had any fault in it. I think you want to hold people responsible for consequences but fail to understand that most people don't expect to be killed in most situations.
21 likesI feel like a terrible person and I’ve been pondering this for the past 10-15 minutes but, for some reason, I did feel some sympathy for the dude at the end.
4 likesNow, I 100% think he deserves whatever time he got in prison and I would never fight for him but there’s something about the distress that he’ll never be free again and, more significantly, that there’s nothing he can do. He’s regretting everything that he did and he wishes he could go back and just make a different decision but, unfortunately for him and Savannah, he can’t. I think it’s because I’m tryna put myself in his shoes and although I can’t fully relate to his situation, I can tell the distress he’s in is absolutely terrible. That and the fact that he not only expressed regret for his own actions but also expresses regret for Savannah’s sake (when he “apologizes” to Savannah) makes me somewhat sympathetic.
Obviously though, I feel much worse for Savannah as, like you said, she was a very young and apparently (as Lee mentioned at the end) nice girl with loads of potential and innocence (at least as far as we know).
Idk though, I just wanted to express my feelings because they were the opposite of yours and I thought it was interesting at the very least
Edit: I don’t know why I said this before but I actually don’t feel like a terrible person because of the way I feel. I trust myself and actually completely defend my feelings. Don’t know why I said “I feel like terrible person”
@HR Mariel I’m not saying anything of significance but he actually just said earlier in the thread that his sister was murdered
1 like@The Furious Killers Just read this thread and I just wanted to let you know that I understand where you’re coming from and I actually agree with you to some extent.
2 likesI understand that you’re blaming Savannah and Lee and not just Savannah as other commenters are saying you are. I just wanted to let you know that there is someone else that understands you’re level of nuance. I’m sorry for what happened to your sister and I wish you a great rest of your day.
@Anthony Donelli its understandable to sympathyse with people. He felt scared and wanted to keep his job and not have his life ruined. Thats a understandable fear. He cried cause he knew what was coming and honestly it was probbaly just a heat of the moment thing. I guarantee if he could he would have changed it if he could have. I dont think hes a horrible person. I think hes a guy who got scared and did something terrible.
3 likes@Chris Edwards u are free to think whatever u are. As am i. So dont burden ur brain on internet
1 like@The Furious Killers You don't see the point do you? They choose to be with the person but they didn't know that they are manipulative and narcissists. It's not easy to tell those kinds of people and you should not blame the victim for choosing to be with the guy. Also, you can choose to leave an abusive relationship but in this case, the guy had to end her life before that decision could be made. He could have talked it out, move on, find someone else, and etc. But no. He chose to kill her and killing, on it's own, is the worst thing to be ever done to another human being.
5 likes@The Furious Killers Well, personally I don’t agree with all of that. The death penalty is a whole different conversation which I don’t usually have much of an opinion on. I just agree that Savannah does hold at least some kind of accountability. Lee holds the vast majority of blame in my eyes but yeah, idk.
2 likesThese comments on this thread are so sophomoric and ridiculous...post less. .read more
1 like@Robbie just like our opinion has no value, your view has no value too. welcome to internet.
0 likes@The Furious Killers not the victim blaming 😐
4 likes@The Furious Killers So your blaming women for being murdered because they don't Magically know the person they are with. Married people find out they are married to murderes. Just because someone choses to date someone doesn't mean they know exactly who they are because people can hide that and no there are not always markers we aren't all psychologists
4 likesnarrator said it wouldn't be easy to watch him break down, i found it entertaining. he got what he deserved for taking that poor girl's life
2 likesThe "could have just told her to leave you alone" part makes me think that the part where he said she was blackmailing him might be true, although of course he shouldn't have dated someone from the job to begin with.
2 likesAnyone here watch ghostbusters?
0 likes@Anthony Donelli you're not a terrible person, just a 🤡🤡🤡😏😘
1 like@Sage Wisdom ...for instinctually feeling sympathy? Didn’t realize it was that unique of a feeling...
0 likes@sunny d No but maybe don’t hang out with sociopaths idk
0 likes@CancerSquad ?????? youre still blaming her
0 likes@Delightful she brought it on herself hanging out with a guy almost 10 years older doing hard drugs. Then trying to get him fired. She brought it on herself
0 likes@The Furious Killers Another note, it is very common with the promiscuity of modern women (and men, though that is usually less relevant) and the feminist ideology in modern society, they aren't taught to fear reasonable dangers to their person, it doesn't help that few women seem to ever get into the topic of being easily overpowered by men unless it has happened to them already. (which is usually at the point where crime took place) The lack of fear when it comes to the possibility of demonstrably evil men, or the jading of feeling over wicked acting men is becoming a more common problem. And a lot of women will also make irrational decisions, especially after they've had sex with a guy, increasing the chance of them ignoring or not recognizing red flags. (and taking drugs only compounds that problem) Thing too is that she was clearly not all that blameless in circumstance even in being a victim, (because of all the association and things she likely took with him) and sometimes in cases like this they get what they deserve even with the criminal being a scumbag. Not that we shouldn't try to avoid it as much as possible but its a bit like gun safety, usually nobody (undeservingly) gets hurt or dies unless multiple rules for it are broken.
0 likes@Sage Wisdom If you read the edit on my comment, you would know that I actually wasn’t considering if I was a “terrible person” or not. That’s how I know you didn’t read my full comment. You should read the full comment if you’re going to call someone a clown; you should also thoroughly think something through before you generate a strong opinion on something (in other words, like most commenters in this thread, assuming you have a similar viewpoint as the original comment, you are missing a whole lot of nuance).
1 likeAnyway, like I started this comment off, I fully stand behind my feelings because I realize that they are nuanced, justifiably empathetic, and understanding.
Didn’t know I was on r/niceguys
1 like@ソイレントシルバー keep it real. Its just a discussion not a conclusion. We can prevent many things
0 likes@Mette Abildgaard exactly. Look at Ted Bundy..
0 likes@The Furious Killers I don’t think we can predict evil acts. Woman like bad boys is true but we don’t know if someone is a murderer. Woman especially young put themselves in very bad situations and we do have to take responsibility for ourselves. As a young girl, 13 or so I never snuck out of my parents home to meet “ friends.” A 14 just stabbed a young girl 114 times. Horrible and I am not victim blaming BUT why did she meet him at 1:00am in the woods. REALLY?! So naive. RIP these young beautiful girls with a life ahead of them.
0 likes@kae murderers are manipulative we don’t know they are murderers.
0 likesMe making notes on what not to do just in case 👁👄👁📝
0 likesis kizzume making new videos?
0 likesWhy did he killed her?
0 likesdawg the telling of what happened- ⁱ straight up said shiiiiiiiiiiiiit—
0 likesDetective: “How do you know her?”
1955 likesLee: “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth…”
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Thanks for the Christian version of this comment ✝️
33 likeslmao
3 likesGod's strenght :)
9 likesBAHAHAA
0 likesBAHAHAHAHA BEST COMMENT ON THAT
2 likes😂😂😂💀
0 likes@BLANKET know your faith man. He is blaspheming our God, making our bible a joke
0 likes@My Master My King joking about how the bible is long isn't blasphemy, God bless
12 likesStolen comment
1 likeLOL
1 like@My Master My King The bible’s joke on its own, read it sometime
1 like@BLANKET Christian version? That came later; this was originally the Jewish version
1 likeOmgg right!! "Well it all started back in 1987 when my mom first birthed me "
1 like@Bowdy Up Which parts of my comments were misspelled or malformed? It is rather telling that you’d lie about my sentence structure rather than address the content.
0 likes@HailBones 666 what’s telling is that something you obviously don’t believe in hurts your feelings... says a lot really.
0 likes@Bowdy Up You’re still lying about me and my beliefs in order to avoid addressing the actual issue.
0 likesYou’re welcome to “get the last word” if you want; I won’t reply again unless you actually address the issue. *All I ask is you think about why you believe something you cannot defend.*
"Then God created drugs..."
1 likeבראשית ברא אלוהים את השמים ואת הארץ…
0 likes@HailBones 666 fool
0 likes@Alpha e A personal insult instead of you addressing my comments? It’s unfortunate how common that is :(
0 likes@HailBones 666 im just saying what i see
0 likes@Alpha e Can you back up your initial feelings with any information?
0 likesWhy didn't he take the fifth?
0 likesIs there follow up on this case now, after trail??
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Yes. I posted a comment just now.
1 like> Lee Rodarte, the man charged with killing the 21-year-old in 2017, was convicted to 40 years in prison on March 11, 2021.
> According to Action News Jax reports, Lee Rodarte Jr., 31, received his sentence on March 11, nearly three years after he was charged with killing Gold, with whom he worked at a Bonefish Grill in Mandarin. In February, Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.
> Rodarte appeared virtually before 4th Circuit Court Judge Jeb Branham to file the plea agreement made with prosecutors.
> Action News Jax was published in 2019 when Rodarte tried to claim self-defense 2019. His claim was later denied.
> Rodarte was also charged with proof tampering and abusing a body, but those charges were dropped as part of his plea agreement.
> Prosecutors and the defense negotiated a sentence of 40 years in prison with credit for time served.
@Zoltán Thank you, much appreciated
0 likesYou kill someone because of a job at f*cking bonefish
0 likesHe tries sound so smart. Lol
0 likesDetective: "So how do you know Savannah?"
2104 likesRodarte: "So around 13.7 billion years ago, everything we know of was an infinitesimally small singularity, a point of infinite denseness and infinite heat. Then, explosive expansion began..."
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The history of the world I guess
19 likes[insert big bang theory intro song]
18 likes@mocha ~Math, science, history, unraveling the mystery
13 likesIt all started with a big bang, HEY!~
@Eric Wood in the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth. The Earth was without form and void and darkness was on the face of the deep....
20 likesBut how do you know savannah?
I'm getting to that I'm getting to that just hold on...
Lee === The entropy made me do it!!
4 likesHahahaha😂😂😂
0 likesLMFAO
2 likesAwesome😁🤣
0 likes.....i thought a 60 second response was too long
0 likesI would confess anything to the lady officer her voice oooohhh
0 likesWhy does nobody ask for a lawyer? Are they just intimidated by authority or just ignorant?
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ignorant
0 likesMy god, that female detective is annoying. I feel sorry for her husband....if he's still around.
0 likesIf this guy had had better parents, they would have told him, "son, don't ever commit murder because you are too dumb to get away with it."
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Most people are
13 likesI imagine having this decision to make in itself is the real question!
1 likeAnd don't cheat either
1 likeHe didn’t ask for a coke, classic beginners mistake
27 likesAnd if you had better parents they would have told you not to upload silly comments like this because you"re way too silly to get away with it!
1 like@Erkinus Yup,had he only asked for a coke he would probably have gotten away with the murder
0 likesmy momma told me "son. always be a good boy, don't ever play with guns"
2 likesGreat comment, Katherine!
0 likes@Erkinus not many here will get the reference. I appreciate it now send me back to my cell.
2 likes@Alan Feng or a woman's heart
1 like@Psyborg Punk cause they didnt watch "how to get away with murder"
0 likesLooks like I have to go have a talk with my son 🤣😜
0 likesdude i talk so much and explain everything in detail id be screwed.
0 likesBro can’t stop talking off the addy😂💀
0 likesHello. Iv just been to a friends funeral. I'm sad. This video is meant to cheer me up. Is that odd? 🤔
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I hope you're feeling better now 😊
1 like@Calior Bustarika Thank you! Yes I feel better. Glad it's over. 👍🏻👍🏻🙏 Much love from Colin in Wales, on a sunny Thursday morning. Hope you have a great day ❤🙏
1 likeWhy would they refuse to release the confession?
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It’s available now on YouTube
0 likesProps to the parents. They knew something was wrong right away.
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seeing the way that message was phrased and the number of spelling mistakes, made it seem that her phone was hacked or someone got a hold of her phone. I don't even personally know Savannah, but I definitely felt something was wrong with those texts.
36 likes@Madtroll Some people type that way though.
3 likesPeople would know if a text was faked from my phone. I spell every word out and use punctuation. I don't shortcut words though sometimes I am tempted. So if you type "Ur nice", definitely fake as I am going to spell the correct version of the your, you're, and you are.
@John Be Bad if she did type that way and the contents of his texts made sense to her parents, then this video wouldn't have been made, would it?
0 likes@Madtroll My point, and it was lost on you, was he was pointing out typo/spelling mistakes as the reason why the parents were thinking it wasn't her. Why they thought it wasn't her was not pointed out in the video. Maybe she writes in abreviations mostly and uses lots of abbreviations, so don't be so pedantic.
3 likesWhen your parents say they don't trust your partner, listen. It could save your life
9 likesyou're not a good parent if you dont know you're child is lying right away. I can't lie to my mom, she knows everytime
0 likes@Read My Comment l wished l had listened sooo many times but I swear, when you’re in love you really are blind
1 likeIt was kinda obvious tho if you know her at all you would know if she was the type of person to run away with a boyfriend
1 likeTo be fair, if she did not have a bad relationship with her parents and usually didn't make such spelling mistakes there is legitimately no way for her to have written those texts. "Running away with my boyfriend" without ever having mentioned him is already severely out of character for most people. Texting instead of calling for such dramatic action etc.
0 likesToo bad they didn’t know when something was wrong when she started doing heavy ass drugs. Too bad it takes a terribly written text message that she’s running away to figure out somethings wrong.
0 likesThis is an underrated comment lmao, those parents know
0 likes"This would make its observation far more tolerable but by no means easy"
0 likesMe: 👁👄👁
that lady detective was getting a little too emotional , she said fuck the smart detective shit , her heart was coming out of her mouth. L
0 likesGet a lawyer...Jesus.
0 likesGod I love Bonefish. So fucking good.
0 likesDetective: “How did you know Savannah?”
2735 likesLee: “Well, it all started when I was born…”
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lol
1 like@Pllayer064 because it is :)
5 likes@Chromaggia it's a trap.
2 likes@Pllayer064 yes
5 likes@Chromaggia thats hot.
4 likes@Chromaggia let's go for a pint o beer
4 likes@Pllayer064 see you there
12 likesIt started when we first laid eyes on each other through the chef window at the bonefish. She was on day one and I was not a manager yet. I asked her what her favorite food was and she said spaghetti. I told her that's my favorite food too.....you see detective savannah and I come from similar lives...
11 likesHahaha
1 likeYou look like a doll wtf
0 likes@Viita thanks!
0 likes😂
0 likes"...and then I took my dog out for a walk. His name was Doggy Boy..."
9 likes@InfamousGhost07 great call back 😂
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@Doodle Bob notice this was a month ago… and neither have responded since….. smh….👀👁😳
1 likeive watched a lot of these completely out of nowhere and unjustified at all murder interviews and they alllwaayyys give their life story. wonder what thats about.
0 likes@Daisy Try watching the video. They explain why he speaks for so long. He is GUILTY. Guilty people give long, drawn out answers.
1 like🤣🤣🤣
1 like😅
0 likesThese are the two most annoying investigators I’ve ever seen.
0 likesTheir patreon is quite cheap but having on YouTube is pretty great
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no its not, its terrible. Constant video disappearances, whole sections of videos missing. They need to focus on their patreon.
1 like@Jackson 83 They should make more videos too.
0 likesLong live JCS
0 likessounds totally fabricated
0 likesAfter watching these videos I've learned, if you're in an interrogation, they need something from you, do not give it to them. no matter what, dont say anything except to ask for a coke.
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What's with the coke nonsense? Why is everyone saying that?
104 likesEDIT: Nvm, found the video.
Don’t forget the butterfinger.
147 likesPRECISELY!!! If they had the evidence they needed to nail u, they wouldnt be begging for u to confess. Which brings me to this female detective....like REALLY??? Is she actually BEGGING him to talk??? CRYING??? Shes auditioning for best actress in an urban drama. 🤦
82 likes@Rhea Mickens Yeah, that part was suuuper cringy xD
19 likesI'm guessing "Jeff" brought you here
29 likes@Serjo777 awkward as hell right?
5 likes@Rhea Mickens it's her job getting a confession and more info, It doesn't matter what she does
49 likes@Serjo777 now I'm curious, what video?
5 likes@Mr. Boostang Think it must have been 'The Legend of "Jeff"'.
9 likes@Serjo777 thanks, much appreciate it
6 likesWould you say that for a person actually committed the crime and hiding it?
4 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likeand state at them as long as you can without blinking
5 likesAlways ask for a coke! You may never get the butterfinger! 😄😉
6 likesDont ask for a coke.....they may be trying to extrsct DNA off the can after you tske a swig.
6 likes@Rhea Mickens - The guy got convicted, right? So her act was effective. Like REALLY???
8 likes@Joe Public dude calm down. I was having a conversation with someone else. And I can have an opinion last time I checked. I personally could care less about her method or whether or not it worked.
3 likesOh Jeff
0 likesWham bam thanks for the coke... Put me back in the cell.
9 likesMaybe don’t get interrogated because you did a crime?
1 like@Ka7al Yeah but how she did it was a bit too much.
2 likes@S'wit I'm so gonna go full Jeff if I ever get interrogated again. Gotta reep whatever benefits, right?
2 likesThat part is right, but more importantly, never work at Bonefish
4 likes#JeffRules!
2 likesThat's another reason Jeff is a legend. "I just came up here for a coke and a butterfinger" He never did get that butterfinger tho...
5 likesHow about don't murder people and you won't be in a police interrogation room
1 likeDont forget the butterfinger
2 likes@Rhea Mickens yeah she pissed me off
2 likesWhen you‘re guilty...
1 likeOr sum coke
1 like@Ian Moone What about all those innocent people that have been in police interrogation rooms? Your comment makes no sense. Innocent people make themselves look guilty all the time and that occasionally leads to their arrest. No-one, even the most innocent person in the world, should talk to the police without a lawyer present.
3 likesRules of Interrogation for Dummies - by Jeff
1 likeI guess if you're a criminal and killed someone that's probably your best move, how about don't end up in a interrogation room cause you've done something that might put you in jail for life or on death row
2 likesDon’t forget the butterfinger.... 😂
0 likes@Slime ninja lots of innocent people get interrogated, and many get convicted. If you are innocent, state your innocence firmly, ask for a lawyer, then say nothing more.
0 likesOf course! Even if obviously and completely innocent, speak only one word. Lawyer. Even if it’s you’re own loved one missing, you can get a layer Very very quickly, speak to police only through your lawyer. There are a LOT of innocent people rotting in prison on account of law enforcement and prosecutors twisting their words around.
0 likes@Filip Murzea Extremely naive of you to fail to understand that innocent people often get interrogated and many times they also end up saying something that can be incriminating. There is literally no good reason to talk to the police without a lawyer and I hope everyone ignores people that are trying to give the police an easier time convicting innocent people.
0 likesDid I miss it or was their no motive for it at all just killed her for no reason
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Supposedly, as dumb as this sounds, it was all because Lee and Savannah were in an intimate relationship of some sorts which is strictly against policy at the BoneFishGrill. Lee was a manager if I'm remembering right and Savannah was not. So to save his job he killed her. Yeah Lee is a real genius, kill savannah to save your job and get caught and throw away both the job and 40 years of freedom
0 likesIt was explained in the video. Pay attention next time.
0 likesLying at the get go!
0 likesMin 4:04 bro thats is not a 2012 malibu , more like a 2006 malibu 🤔
0 likesSavannah looked like a beautiful flower. How can a man kill a beautiful flower? This world is dark and scary.
0 likesIn his defense, he hasn't tooken Adderall since high school.
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*taken 😉
36 likesAnd yeah :D
@DE VANOV thats the joke hehe lee made the same mistake in the video
155 likes@Mya:3 Now I feel foolish :D
84 likesJoshua i like your profil pic
4 likes@DerAbsurde Always on the move I am!
5 likes@Mya:3 Hahaha! Thanks man! I actually teach linguistics!
7 likes@DE VANOV o7
0 likesTooken
4 likesHe literally probably talked his way into confessing because of the adderall
22 likesJust a little after high school*
3 likesAdderall doesn’t cause memory loss. It wasn’t like he just took barbiturates or narcotics lol
1 likeNo, he hasn't TAKEN anything...
0 likes@DE VANOV Did you know scientists have found people that are always Grammer checking people on social media are pretty much "jerks." If ya don't believe me you should look it it up. This is the you tube comment section. Get a life.
2 likes@John Koepke Well, same advice goes to you I guess ?
10 likesQuestion: Does it make you a jerk if you call other people jerks and tell them to get a life ?
You see, everytime you attack someone else, you also tell on yourself.
Tooken lol, evidently you missed out on even middle school
0 likesSince you're all about what other people have to say about this:
8 likes"Correct a mature person and they'll thank you, correct an immature person and they'll try to insult you."
Kind of common knowledge...
@Dav3 Leave them alone no one cares about simplistic errors that can be fixed.
2 likesLol I was like “yeah right” you just decided that to last night?
0 likesThat probably had something to do with his rage towards her. Stuff can turn you to a monster if you let it
It's speln "toucan"
3 likes@Grammar Nazi OMG, I love your representative symbol! It's simultaneously both hilarious and iconic! Pardon the pun.
0 likes@John Koepke It has been shown that the single most effective way of silencing so-called "grammar Nazis" is to demonstrate consistently correct grammar. As such demonstration greatly facilitates the communication of ideas, exercising correct grammar is of inestimably great benefit principally to the "speaker" having used it to transmit with reasonable exactness his intent, and secondarily to the "audience" for the precision of their consequent interpretation.
2 likesShunning good grammar is among the surest and most readily observed indices that the speaker has not only elected to forego every opportunity for self-improvement and advance, but also that he has contempt for himself and for others; the converse is likewise true: striving for good grammar is among the most easily noted proofs that the speaker is both able and willing to improve himself and his welfare by contributing positively to the community of which he is part.
For better or for worse, the choice is nevertheless yours to make.
hahaha. Grammar Nazi aside, "in his defense", I don't think the Adderall really helped him too much, lol. Also, how nice she gets clean and he takes her to get beers. What a gem. No wonder he was so "popular".
2 likesLol
0 likes@DE VANOV you should
0 likesnot tooken, tooketh
4 likesSire Sheep astute observation, chum
1 like@Austin Muncrief If he had "tooken" ketamine then i would understand the temporary memory loss but he didn't.
1 like@Corazon del Oro Wait now! “heart of the Au” It dont matter none that we ain’t talkin’ right an’ everthang.... Science dudes dun founded out that it’s all BS an’ that even if you ain’t tooken no dope in a bit - you still smart ...an’ everthang .... it’s science dude ..... as in Science ya know .....math an’ s*#t .....Kwaysions!..... nuff said!!
0 likes@Jessicajanedoe hahaha maybe! My experience with adderall/adhd is that it gets you in your head and you don't talk as much. But I don't know how it affects those w/o ADHD who take it, and I've never been interrogated so I don't know! lol/ These comments give me life hahahaha
2 likes@John Koepke why are you so mad?
0 likes@Camvin HAHAHAHAHAAHA
1 likeLmfaoooo 😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes@John Koepke You didn't need to capitalize the G in "Grammar," which you also misspelled - oh. Sorry...
1 like@Corazon del Oro we still don’t think you’re smart bro
0 likes@DE VANOV ah you fool
0 likes@Lude Zooted he has not tooketh thy adderal substances since highschool
0 likes@Mayor of Hueco Mundo Adderall is sometimes prescribed for impulse control, and the murder seemed impulsive. I dont think its responsible for what he did.
0 likes@CaseSheep Afraid I must correct you, as lee has not acquired amphetamine from me at any point in our lives so Lee never tooketh my adderall therefore your use of the word "thy" is incorrect.
0 likes90 min without even anything to read and those fluorescent lights. Maybe he could have talked to the guy standing in the corner with the video recorder. Det Bo Tie.
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Yep
0 likesWant to actually make some progress on lessoning murders? Eye for an eye
0 likesThose interrogation rooms could all use a woman’s touch,
0 likesi know the narrator said not all footage is available to the public, but how tf did they see anything on that video? 2:36
0 likesI'm confused, why don't they ever get a lawyer at the get-go?
1694 likesThe Coca-Cola guy had the right idea.
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Jeff, and he sure did.
110 likesYou guys are here from that too, huh?
96 likesJeff "Le-Gen-Da-((wait for it))-Ry"!
29 likesThe Legendary Jeff!!! Yaaas!
18 likesJeff 🤣
7 likesThey wrongly think asking for lawyer is suspicious, and they can redirect attention away from themselves by cooperating and talking.
50 likes@Liberty Prime It depends. If innocent, it "can" in theory, be better to talk.
4 likesWho's the Coca-Cola guy?
5 likesJeff is a legend. Lol
7 likes@Greg hahahahah
0 likesHe doesn't deserve a lawyer
7 likesMy name is jeeeff lol
2 likesHe know cops more then this stupid killers so he dont kill
He's not as smart as jeff obviously
1 likeJeff's video is what brought me here. Lol
3 likes@Bret Z and risk the cops latching onto something circumstantial and tunnel visioning on you? It's happened before, it'll happen again. Investigations where the leads dry up, they'll start doubling down on what they already have access to, and let's not even begin with certain times investigators have already settled on a suspect and just ignores evidence pointing towards someone else.
15 likesThis is potentially years of your life tied up in legal proceedings, name and reputation being dragged through the mud, and if you become that small percentage of wrongly accused or incompetent police work, you pretty much suffer for the rest of your life.
Uhm the coca cola guy was innocent. And usually when crimes are committed in the heat of the moment the perpetrator mostly likely is overwhelmed with guilt and very vulnerable whereas a cold blooded killer has no remorse and ready to do anything save their ass
1 likeCause Jeff knows what's up.
0 likes@Liberty Prime spot on my friend
0 likesMatt K actually, in the US that’s exactly the case. ask for a lawyer and they must stop questioning you.
1 likeThey think they can out smart the cops. They don't want to pay for a lawyer. They think it looks suspicious. All of the above.
1 like@Matt K You don't have to answer though.
1 likeYe lot in America are lucky. Here in Ireland you don't get a lawyer in the room with you when you're been questioned.
2 likesI got arrested before, asked for a lawyer. The lawyer came and said to me sure just answer the cops questions. I shit you not.
was thinking the same thing. being interrogated for 1+ hours sounds fucking awful. Guilty or not guilty id shut the fuck up and wait for a lawyer.
1 like@Irish 1916 You could just not answer though. I assume it's not required that you answer any questions.
0 likesMatt K but the key is that you need only remember that you don’t have to answer, and that when you do it’s probably not the smartest choice
1 likeThat would be the ledge Jeff
0 likeslolololol Jeff got the Coca Cola and zipped it . The cop was like " you don't deserve that coke and was about to throw it in the trash , then cop picks up the coke thats almost half full realizes this and Jeff says" Can I finish my coca cola??"....then the cop.gives it right back to him like his little bitch LMAO
1 likeIgnorance maybe... If you've groan being arrested you know how to play the game
0 likes@Matt It was serious. Importing drugs, intent to supply and possession of ammunition (a big charge here). Lawyers here are shit. Infact most of them want you to get charged because it's just more money for them.
0 likes@David You can answer all questions No Comment if you want. That's exactly what I done.
0 likes@hopeseekr Jeff. We can't find anything more about him, but damn if he ain't a legend.
0 likes@Bret Z Nope, it can never be better to talk to the cops or argue with them. Whether it's on the street, in your car, or in an interrogation room. Nothing will be up to them anyways. The cops only goal is to strengthen the prosecution, if you're talking to anyone it's a jury through your lawyer or the prosecutor, through your lawyer. The absolute best, and rare, case scenario when talking to the cops, is you simply don't screw yourself over saying something stupid. There's no scenario where it helps you.
0 likesObviously I'm glad this guy didn't ask for a lawyer and incriminated himself, but regardless of guilt or not... ALWAYS get a lawyer, don't say shit. Even if you're innocent you could say something they'll latch on to and justify them harassing you for years if they have no other leads.
0 likescarl gibson whats the vid called??
0 likesBecause criminals think they can talk their way out of trouble. They forget that cops are smarter than they are. Also, cameras are everywhere. ✌️
0 likesI dont see why you're confused nor why people agreed with this comment. Lee wasn't expecting to be accused of being involved with savanna's disappearance. Of course he wouldnt have known to get a lawyer at the get-go. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
0 likesBecause how many times has this dude been arrested before versus Jeff, the Coke guy ?? It’s call experience.
0 likescarl gibson what Jeff video? Lol
0 likesI love Jeff! I've known a few guys like him.
0 likesdon't make that info public. We would have a crap ton of unsolved murder cases... lmao!!
0 likesFemale detective shouldn't have been allowed to speak
0 likes39:47 Reality smacking you in the face
0 likesAll this just to keep your shitty restaurant manager job?🤔😅
0 likesNot a chef, kitchen mngr
1 likewhat a fool!! should of lawyered up! then it would of been took her on a ride n let her out! done!
0 likes26:05 lol this is like amber heard level melodrama def felt fake
0 likesNot Savannah was nice to you 😢 RIP
0 likesi heard a commercial for this place on Spotify this is wall I think of.
0 likesThe fact JCS has only a handful of episodes, but is one of the most successful, if not the most successful channel for crime is crazy.
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It's because his videos don't waste your fucking time. There's no ads, or irrelevant channel updates. Just good content.
101 likesAnd in the same time, it encourage people made these kind of video which show disturbing contents and thus they have to focus 100% on quality and only able to earn money from alternative party. No annoying ads or clickbait
11 likesThere is tons of other stuff on their patreon still. I subbed there right after they stopped making content. It was a good few days worth of binge watching for five bucks though. I asked if they would be making more and they kindly responded saying it would all be on YouTube from now on and I should unsubscribe from Patreon. This was about a year ago. This channel could be raking in millions easy if they would just start again.
14 likesI love how they fast forward through the dross, pure class
6 likesWhat happened to this channel? Why no new content
3 likesWhen i first started watching him a couple years ago he only had around 100k subs, and now he has 4.5 million, I've never seen a channel grow this fast(totally deserved too). It also seemed like YouTube was randomly stifling him back then also because he's had 3 or 4 great videos removed.
2 likes@BayAreaNewMan it just takes them a really long time to make. If you're interested watch him on patreon, I think it's only a dollar and he had a lot more videos on there. He puts the more graphic ones there I believe so he doesn't get copyright strikes
1 like@victoneter they’re are most definitely ads are you good?
2 likesMan I wish this channel kept making videos
1 likeQuality over quantity
3 likes@BayAreaNewMan because they take their time.
0 likes@Old Ironsides ???
0 likes@victoneter No ads? Are you sure about that?
0 likesHe used to have more not sure why some have disappeared
0 likesDefine 'successful'.
0 likes39:07 - When Eminem was a cop...
0 likesCan I rent that video camera that shot the grainy images of Lee in the parking lot in the processes of kidnapping, I need it for my video's of the Big Foot expedition that is in the planning ...Hah Her Hah ha
0 likesI'd say the woman is ruining it for the police
0 likesMommy I'm guna die in jail... Lmao. That's what you get boi.
0 likesHes a manager at the restaurant yet does not realize that the parking lot has surveillance video? Lol
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Uh, yeah. Because he’s a Manager. At. A. Restaurant. Not a manager at literally anything smarter.
50 likesHe knew that it only recorded 1 pixel at a time and couldn't be recognized.
85 likes@82ndAbnVet but it did recognize him is the WHOLE point
6 likes@_KHUSHI _ It recognized his car. His best bet would have been to say his car was stolen and he wasn't driving. Still a long shot, but a better defense than what he's going with now.
37 likes@82ndAbnVet True
0 likesWhy does that automatically mean he should know the parking lot has cameras?
5 likesLet Me Catch You Slippin restaurant managers can’t be smart?
27 likes@Joe Public if he’s worked there long enough to become manager then he had to at least know the place had cameras in case of robbery and stuff.
15 likescriminals apparently keep thinking that cameras don’t exist when they’re the ones committing the crime.
7 likes@82ndAbnVet His best bet would be to talk only in the presence of his attorney once his Miranda rights were read to him.
4 likes@82ndAbnVet his best bet was to stick with his original story, they didn't have matching plates all they had was a similar looking car of the same model. It literally could've been anybody, it's an extremely popular car a good lawyer would've had him out of there
8 likes@Zamerus he probably was the kitchen manager, not floor or GM. Corporate chains are different than your main st mom n pop, so he may actually not have been privy to that info
3 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin I think you underestimate the job unfairly ... Dealing with that many personalities (servers etc) and customers and making the night run smoothly is no easy task...
7 likesWasn’t the surveillance footage from across the street or am I mixing videos
2 likes@n64p3 there were 2 videos. 1 in the parking lot that had his car and her car on camera(video was not shown) and then one at the intersection near the lights which captured his car again.
4 likeskimielle Okay, that’s your experience. They aren’t the only restaurant manager in the world.
2 likes@82ndAbnVet That would definitely be a long shot. Why would Savannah talk to the guy who stole his car for fourteen minutes before getting in the back seat?
1 likeI mean in the restraint I work In we have managers in kitchen. Head chef sous chef and then one other junior sous chef and they wouldn’t know where any cameras or tills or anything like the such. The front of house managers are in control of that where I work. Not sure how it works at other places 👍
0 likeskimielle that is still only your experience. There are hundreds of thousands of restaurant managers in the world
0 likesNobody said he was a good manager...
1 like@Let Me Catch You Slippin their are plenty smart restaurant managers. This one just isn't. Even a dumb restaurant manager knows where the cameras are, because you see them all the time when your in the office. He most likely didn't consider them because he did this out of passion.
1 likeThat's what I was thinking. If you're a manager shouldn't you be aware what kind of surveillance you have?
1 like@Let Me Catch You Slippin Hahah the ignorance of the hospitality industry. Try a saturday shift in a busy restaurant 👍
2 likesHe's the executive chef, too, not some pissant manager. That means he does the food cost, inventory, all ordering, hiring and firing responsibilities, training and instituting a training program others can follow. He would absolutely be privy to the knowledge of cameras, I just think he underestimated the camera's reach and also that he would be a suspect. They don't check cameras, ever, unless there's a problem.
2 likesThe biggest shock is a 28 year old being executive chef. Practically unheard of, but it shows he was talented and charismatic, and convincing.
2 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin some of my brightest friends are managers at restaurants and I'm a physician. what a stupid comment.
1 like@Let Me Catch You Slippin lol rekt
0 likesThat would matter if the murder was premeditated. Which might be not the case.
0 likes@Alex that says a lot about your friend mix.
0 likes@Let Me Catch You Slippin not sure if this is sarcastic or not but I love having a diverse group of friends that bring diff career perspectives to the table so we can talk about fun new things rather than medicine all day. anyways hope you grow up. it's 2021. Happy New Years.
0 likesHe knows there are Cameras, he lost his Temper, thats it, rational thinking does not come into play here.
1 likeTisk tisk.
1 likeHell have 40 years to think about it
0 likesCry for yourself. Worry for yourself 😃😃😃
0 likesYou may be a chef in prison
0 likesDude!! ON ADDERALL AND HAVE TO SIT IN AN INTERROGATION ROOM ALONE FOR 90 min and try to act ok?!! MY GOODNESS I WOULD BE ROCKING BACK AND FORTH! LICKING MY LIPS, FREAKING OUT!! ID ALSO BE ON EDGE AND PE PISSEDBOFF AND AGITATED FROM SAID DRUG. BAD DAY TO BE ON AN ADDERALL MY FRIEND!!! WOW!
0 likes"How do you know Savannah?"
3416 likesMy great great grandparents first came to America in 1613 from Holland, arriving in the port of New York which at that time was known as New Amsterdam...
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Hahaha
4 likes"My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old..."
40 likesVery funny 😁
2 likesLOL
0 likesLmao!
0 likesPaul Mallon 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
1 likeWow I never knew that ny used to be called that
7 likes@Izzy Chambers Hahaha The comment-section can be so informative....
7 likesThese comments crack me up laughing.
4 likesDammit, I laughed.
2 likesTake me back to Constantinople
15 likesIzzy Chambers i remember hearing it at the domonic monaghan and elijah wood prank interview 😂
0 likesPaul Mallon Once upon a time . . .
4 likes😁
1 likePaul Mallon - I still can't stop laughing......it has been 3 days.
3 likesPaul Mallon hahahaha
2 likesLol
0 likes😂😂😂👏🏼
0 likesSince when did Hispanics come from Holland?
4 likesIt was a warm summer evening, in Ancient Greece...
6 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that's funny!
0 likesPaul Mallon 😂😂😂😂
0 likesHillarious
0 likesOnly your great great grandparents in 1613? That would mean you would have to be over 300 years old, at the very least lol. Guilty!
5 likesBruh 😂😂
0 likes@Eternal Reign aren't the grandkids of civil war vets and, potentially, a founding fathers grandkids?
0 likesDetective: Tell me how do you know Savanah? Savannah is a girl's name of Spanish origin meaning "flat tropical grassland..........
1 likeHahaha omg. Sorry for laughing couldn't help
0 likesIt actually started WAaaay before that, with a Big Bang know today as the Big Bang theory.....
0 likes🤣😂🤣😂🙌
0 likes... and our great great great grandfathers rode chariots together.
0 likesGotta be extra thorough otherwise they'll think you're guilty.
0 likesLmfao!
0 likesHe gave a whole history in five minutes. Lol
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesIf you say it like Grandpa Simpson it sounds funnier... “We had to call it that because the Kaiser stole Amsterdam.”
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesFunny you hun...
0 likes@Izzy Chambers 'Why they changed it, i can't say...people just liked it better that wayyy'
1 like🤣
0 likesHolland is a part of the Netherlands
0 likes"As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster"
0 likes...the heroine capital of the world, which is really where it all started. Se heroine is derived from a plant called poppy. This grows in arid climates
1 likeROFL
0 likesDas good stuff, LMAO
0 likesLMAO!!!
0 likes😂😂🤣🤣
0 likesScreaming
0 likesFunny ...but this guy ain't dutch
0 likesIts almost worthy of granpa simpson.
0 likes@Lynette I learnt something new today
0 likesLMFAO AHAHAHAHAHA
0 likesThe cry baby whiny voice of the female detective was fuckin killing me lol 😂
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Was probably killing Lee too, coerced him right into a confession with auditory torture
2 likesLol “one day when you have kids”
0 likesCompany policy against couples within the working environment. Firing squad.
0 likesIt's always due to a woman...
0 likes24:20 I definitely think that Lee loosened up a bit when the detective said "one day when you have kids". This potentially implies that the suspect will NOT be spending his life behind bars, giving him hope and therefore relaxing him a bit. Very well done by the investigator if it was intentional.
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There are plenty of men who killed people (sometimes multiple, but that’s outside of the US), went to jail, got out and had kids (or had kids while in jail through visitations).
2 likes@cutiemod you’re definitely right, but that’s not my point lol
30 likesDefo on purpose
5 likesHe got 40 years. So it's not completly impossible.
0 likesStop making us read text messages were just listening lol
0 likesA bow tie? Seriously?
0 likesI watch so many of these videos and the one thing in common for those who get caught. You people talk WAY to much. Shut up
0 likesWhy did you change the title? Nothing wrong with the old one.
1 likeEverything is fun and games , until the narrator commits a crime.
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It would be great to watch him narrate his own interrogation... while being interrogated.
302 likesim confused by this.. what do you mean??
27 likesYes, what do you guys mean?
9 likesExactly
4 likes@Duncan L Geoghegan and a greater narrator narrates over his analysis
45 likes@Paul Nel he’s saying if the guy that does these videos was guilty of murder, he would be very hard to crack during interrogation
92 likes@sirpsychosexy thats why i watch these videos
17 likes@Manuel Should we be concerned? Haha
30 likes@Uncool Loser well... yesn't
16 likesaint that the mctruth
8 likes@Manuel well isn’t that assuring 😃
3 likesWell i guess what’d happen to him is what he said in his video “The interrogation of Stephanie Lazarus” where he says: “you can know all the rules of the book, but when put in a situation of a crime you committed, fear will overcome you.”
12 likes🤣🤣
0 likesNo, the narrator would have gotten a lawyer.
7 likesThe narrator is just the narrator reading the script and not actually the maker behind these videos thats jcs
1 like@sirpsychosexy What if they got a new narrator to narrate the confession of this narrator but while in the soundbooth we hear police bursting in to arrest him and after a moment a new narrator is heard and he introduces himself and proceeds to narrate both narrator interrogations. Later he's convicted of...
2 likes@AudioGardenSlave ok thats great. time for your meds
2 likes@CRYHMNL love me. I'm so lonely.
2 likes@CRYHMNL if you don't I'll do bad things to myse... others.
1 likeYou guys know the narrator is a hired talent, right?
1 likeYou like caterpillars? Do you eat them? That's Gross!!
1 like@Melvin Pepperdash That's true. Don't break the illusion man.
0 likesFrom this point forward at this exact moment…
0 likes@JiMMy and then it becomes the seen from “Inside” where the narrator is now reviewing the review of his narration.
1 like@Paul Nel the narrator is extremely educated in interrogation tactics and criminal psychology so he would be able to lie his way through an interrogation undetected
0 likes@CajDoesStuff that is poetry
0 likesand he gets away with it
0 likesDun..dun..dunnnn
0 likes@alex Gria Fantastic quote
0 likes@AudioGardenSlave Narrateception 😱
0 likes@Melvin Pepperdash Whomever he is he is perfect for this
0 likesHe's to the direct & to the point, overall pleasant,and is firm yet easy to follow.
If that makes sense lol
@Northern green eyes You should check out his channel linked in the description.
0 likesturns to the camera in the room
0 likesThe detective has just attempted to employ a tactic known as..."
The narrator on this channel is just a narrator, there is a whole team behind these videos doing research and making the script. Plus, if any of you watched Stephanie Lazarus case even the most knowledgeable on the interrogation tactics can behave in weird manners when on the other side of the inspection
0 likes@Forrest Estes ahhh thanks for clearing that up
0 likesThe female investigator got on my nerves
0 likesHow is it I take a picture and my camera shows me every single zit, pimple, blackhead, pore, boil, defect and flaw I've had since BIRTH, yet these businesses have cameras that look like they're filming through a kaleidoscope by an early 2000's Motorola Razor?
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Because it's expensive to install a truckload of cameras that have extremely high detail.
0 likesI hope he rot in jail...
0 likesOkay. I'll take this.
0 likesPeople talking crap about the female interrogators pleading with him but fail to realize that they rehearsed how they were going to interrogate him (as mentioned in the video). They went over which cop would play which role, as is the case with all interrogations. She was appealing to his "human" side while the other was more straight forward. This mix of the two interrogation styles is clearly what got the confession. Props to both of these detectives.
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Agreed, a bunch of people who don't know what they're talking about are being pretty misogynistic and calling her a bad interrogator, but failing to realize that they got the confession through their teamwork!
107 likesIt was difficult to watch because I felt like I had to confess something. If this team was interrogating me, I'd definitely break down and tell them everything. They were so coordinated and ruthless! She did a greatjob at wearing him down and reading the situation.
39 likesagree. the way she acted was supposed to make you feel uncomfortable and stressed. her lines were cheesy sometimes but i doubt that mattered in the moment...but of course, people seeing a woman act emotional?!? she must be totally incompetent!
46 likes@revenevan11 Right! And also these are TRAINED professionals. Their job is to get a confession through different interrogation methods, kinda like actors and psychologists mixed in one. They would never let her stay there if her behavior was going to mess with the confession. Plus she didn’t plead the whole time, she chose her moments when she knew it was most affective.
35 likesit’s not that’s she’s a bad interrogator, it’s that it’s a horrible script. especially considering they had time to plan and rehearse.
4 likes@VegiemisterFTW I think it worked pretty excellently. The pleading wasn’t necessarily to get the confession then and there, it was to make him more prone to changing his story.
30 likes@stoopid apples yea i can kinda agree but personally if i was being pleaded to like that, even after everything i’ve already told them, it would remind me that i need to stfu immediately.
0 likes@VegiemisterFTW i bet you look at the stanford prison experiment and similar well known experiments and go "i wouldnt act like that!". people like you are so funny lol
17 likes@Son yes because that masterfully crafted experiment carried out by research scientists is super comparable to this hastily put together interrogation performance.
1 likeHas little to do with mysgogny whata stupid comment- that’s as stupid as all the ppl saying that the female interrogator was bad...
0 likes@VegiemisterFTW yeah but you're also ignoring that the timing of her pleading comes right around when he is caught on a lie. The trap was 100% successful. He was being hit on an emotional level, but he cant just lock up. He's been targeted with lying so he needed something else. That's a ton of pressure, all while being begged and pleaded with to give up where she is. Even if you hold out, how does that look to a jury? It looks like you were beat on the fact of lying, and now you shut down. You would look horrible.
4 likes@Wes Hannum I've been in a situation like that. Granted i didn't murder anyone, but when someone starts acting hysterical with no build up it comes off as fake, and it made me even more closed off. I know it's an act and to me it feels like you're in complete control of your emotions. but then again I didn't murder anyone and every person is different so, good job to both of these detectives.
0 likes@VegiemisterFTW Are you calling the Stanford prison experiment a "masterfully experiment carried out by research scientists"? Because this experiment was criticized for many, many reasons and probably doesn't deserve this praise.
4 likes@Paz the Pole if a male interrogator broke down in tears and begged we’d be laughing at him and saying he’s a bad actor. Why is it different becaus4 she’s female?
0 likes@Pathetic because men in the comments started to use this as an a excuse to tear her down and say that women are too “emotional” it turned misogynistic because they made it that way
1 like@Wes Hannum never said the plan/script wasn’t well executed, just that it was lousily written. there are many things that would pull on my emotions more successfully than being pleaded to by someone ik is trying to lock me up. that’s the last i’m gonna say on this. nothing against the two detectives, i’m just not fond of pleading in general. especially when it’s towards a criminal/an adversary.
0 likesI beat a young woman to death momma......now I have to pay for it...oh momma please help me, I don't feel so good momma
0 likesAll these "JCS Inspired" channels get to continue uploading while the OG can't even upload anymore. It makes me so angry
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Why cant he upload anymore?
0 likesjust dont talk to the police
0 likesHe is only crying because he got caught!
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Don't they all
1 likeUpdate, if anyone else was wondering: Lee’s been sentenced to 40 years in prison.
829 likeshttps://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/lee-rodarte-jr-florida-man-sentenced-for-killing-savannah-gold
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Thx
17 likesDamn...he killed her in 2017 and only got sentenced now....40 years in prison is a long time and if he lives the world is gonna be completely different... it's crazy to think about that
127 likesthanks kind stranger... i started watching this over a year old video yesterday and you posted the answer to the question i eventually would have while i slept. we are totally connected in a weird way.
34 likeswow, you can be sentenced to 40 years in America? That’s crazy! A single murder would be 15 years here in Germany, unless the judge comes to the conclusion it was especially gruesome or that there is no reason to believe you’ll stop murdering after that time. Then the sentence can be longer, but that’s more of an exception.
49 likesCame to the comments for this - thanks.
5 likes@MoonShadeStuff Man kann in Amerika auch sein ganze Leben weggesperrt werden, oder auch zu Tode verurteilt, dagegen ist Deutschland die reinste Kuscheljustiz, wo Steuerhinterzieher härter bestraft werden wie Mörder.
5 likes@COLDSTEEL productions Naja, da bin ich auch ganz froh drum, also dass es bei unserem Justizsystem nicht primär um Rache geht, um "eye for an eye" oder darum Privatgefängnisse zu füllen und den Investoren Geld zu verschaffen, sondern um Rehabilitation von Tätern und einer möglichen Wiedereingliederung in die Gesellschaft. Da passt das Zitat ganz gut: "A society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens but by how it treats its criminals."
9 likes@COLDSTEEL productions Erzähl doch bitte nicht so einen Stuss. Mörder erhalten grundsätzlich die lebenslange Freiheitsstrafe, die hat für Steuerhinterziehung noch niemand bekommen. Da ist die Höchststrafe auch nur 5 Jahre, in extremen Fällen 10 Jahre (die bis heute auch noch nie ausgesprochen wurden).
7 likesDass man ab 15 Jahren bei einer lebenslangen Freiheitsstrafe frei kommen kann, ist auch nicht in Stein gemeißelt. Diese Möglichkeit gebietet aber die in unserer Verfassung festgehaltene Menschenwürde, die gilt nämlich auch für Täter. Nicht selten dauert es länger oder es gibt, in gravierenden Fällen, anschließende Sicherungsverwahrung.
Und man kann sich auch fragen, ob eine tatsächliche lebenslange Freiheitsstrafe (bis zum Tod) sinnvoll ist oder ob man nach 15-20 Jahren nicht als völlig neuer Mensch aus dem Gefängnis kommt und stattdessen einen Dienst an der Gesellschaft leistet. Härtere Strafe schrecken niemanden ab und sie bringen die Opfer auch nicht zurück. Der Einzige, der damit bedient ist, ist der Bürger, der sich in seinen Rachegedanken etwas mehr bestätigt fühlt.
@COLDSTEEL productions es ist ganz einfach, der Erfolg gibt uns recht. Schau wie viele Probleme die USA haben mit ihrem Justizsystem aus Härte ohne Wiedereingliederung und Privatgefängnissen und schau wie wenig Probleme wir im Vergleich haben. Gibt ne Rückfallquote entlassener Gefangener, Vergleiche da mal USA und Deutschland. Philosophieren über die besten Ansätze kann man viel, was zählt sind die Fakten.
2 likesBtw wäre gut wenn du Leute nicht gleich beleidigst wenn die eine andere Meinung haben.
@MoonShadeStuff Ja? Hau mal raus welche Probleme die USA im Gegensatz zu D haben? Über diesen Unterschied bin ich ja mal bestens gespannt jetzt.
0 likes@COLDSTEEL productions Einen sehr wichtigen Aspekt habe ich schon genannt. Im Gegensatz zu Deutschland gibt es in den USA eine extrem hohe Gefangenenquote (relativ zu der Bevölkerungszahl) und eine extrem hohe Quote an Entlassenen Straftätern die Rückfällig werden. Teilweise weil es in Deutschland so etwas gibt wie Programme die Gefangenen vor und nach der Entlassung helfen ein normales Leben aufzubauen, teilweise weil es in den USA durch die Privatgefängnisse monetäre Interessen gibt, Gefangene so lange wie möglich im Gefängnis zu halten und nicht zu rehabilitieren, sodass sie nach der Entlassung möglichst bald wieder im Gefängnis landen und die Investoren Kohle kriegen. Das heißt übrigens nicht dass da weniger Steuergelder drauf gehen da immer noch jemand für die Gefangenen zahlen muss UND das Gefängnis muss Profit machen. Du kannst dir vorstellen, die Steuerlast in den USA zur Unterbringung so vieler Gegangener ist enorm. Das ganze hat System und läuft ziemlich korrupt ab, da gibt es Richter die den Gefängnissen zuarbeiten und härtere Strafen verhängen bzw Leute wegen Kleinigkeiten einbuchten.
3 likesDann hat natürlich die USA ebenfalls viel größere Probleme mit Verbrechen als das in Deutschland der Fall ist, die härteren Strafen haben in der Praxis keine abschreckende Wirkung. Es gibt aber noch weitere Aspekte, such auf YouTube am besten nach „germany low crime, clean prisons, lessons for America“. Die haben da noch ein paar Zahlen zusammen getragen die interessant sein dürften. Ein Blick in ein Beitrag von John Oliver lohnt auch „John Oliver prison“. Kann leider nicht direkt verlinken da YouTube sonst den Kommentar als Spam löscht.
Thanks for providing the update!
2 likes@MoonShadeStuff I'm shocked murder isn't an automatic life sentence. I mean you took a life, seems fair to take the killers life, albeit by imprisonment rather than execution.
45 likes@SarcyseTiranin I agree 40 years is not enough. The man will be 68 when he comes out and can potentially live up 90 to 100 years old in peace
16 likes@Marco I believe you only do a percentage of the 40yrs but it may be different for a murder charge
5 likeswow he’ll be in his 60’s when he gets out? i don’t know much about what they do in prison but how do they treat old people in there?
4 likes@s they probs just leave me alone. Unless they know what he did to her, then they’ll likely give him hell
0 likesIt said with time served, does that mean he got out on his court date or that time just counted toward his 40 years? Cause I know when they say your sentencing the normally always suspend some. Wondering if he got time served
0 likes@SarcyseTiranin the system in Germany is built around the idea of rehabilitation rather than revenge / eye for an eye. There is a good video explaining it better called “Germany, low crime, clean prisons, lessons for America” that goes into that philosophy and shows some numbers that I think show it’s a successful system.
12 likesI don’t want to act like we’re the “best”, there are other countries in Europe that have similar systems and of course all systems have their problems.
However, when someone is actually deemed “beyond redemption” that person can still be locked up indefinitely.
@MoonShadeStuff I'm not going to say American criminal law is better or worse than Germany, I don't know enough about your country to form a informed opinion. I simply believe that the murdered are owed vengeance from society in the form of capital punishment of their murderer. I think that most murdered people would desire retributive justice and are owed it.
1 like@SarcyseTiranin it's a valid point of view. The way I see it, it's a difference in culture, which in turn defines the primary goal of our different justice systems. Nobody is wrong or right, you can only look at the outcomes and ask, is this the outcome we really wanted to achieve with this system.
4 likesFrom my point of view, in general (not murder specifically), it's better to have less harsh sentences, but give the people opportunities and programs that help them become a functioning member of society once they served their sentence. It might not be the point of view of the victims but really 15 years is a reasonable amount of punishment, people probably don't realize what it does to a person if you take 15 years of their life away from them. I think society as a whole doesn't profit all that much from unreasonably long and harsh sentences. Every day they are imprisoned it costs us money and I'd rather have people be punished and then come back on their feet and contribute to society and the economy again.
On the notion of capital punishment, I'm glad we don't have that in our system at all. I believe a society shouldn't kill people as a form of punishment. People, even the worst ones, have human rights. And in our constitution, article 2 it says: "Every person shall have the right to life and physical integrity."
spoilers much🙄
0 likes@Lucas Vasques Just think about how much the world has changed since 2017. 40 years in prison is insane and inhuman.
3 likes@COLDSTEEL productions Die Zahl 15 wirkt für sich alleine ohne Relation sehr klein. Aber die durchscnittliche Lebenserwartung eine Mannes in Deutschland ist aktuell 78,9 Jahre. 15 Jahre Strafvollzug machen also 25% des gesamten Lebens aus.
1 likeNehmen wir uns also mal einen Zollstock und messen 78,9 cm ab. Mit dem linken Daumen gehen wir an unser aktuelles alter in cm und dann eben noch 15cm weiter. So lang ist das was übrig bleibt nicht mehr...
@FeinesFabi it’s inhuman to kill someone 😑
5 likes@MoonShadeStuff You have to remember that the American prison system is privatized and not designed to rehabilitate people. It's designed to create hardened criminals by treating them like animals. That way there's a higher chance they'll commit crime again after release, leading to another prison sentence which earns the prison more money. They're literally financially incentivized to abuse the prisoners, and the cultural propaganda teaching kids from a young age to consider "criminals" as if they're born evil means there's not a lot of people demanding change inside of the country.
3 likeswhy only 40 years
2 likes@Warrick Rhode thank you for your insights, that’s basically what I told @COLDSTEEL production in German a few comments ago. I’ve gathered as much from American reports about the justice system.
0 likes@MoonShadeStuff I think I watched that once with my family. If not it was a different but similar documentary. Extremely interesting to see the cultural differences between the US and the EU, specifically Germany. I do agree, the German inmates had WAY less repeat offenders with the German model of incarceration.
1 like@Warrick Rhode they only charged him with second degree murder because at least from what evidence they had and the defenses story, it was not premeditated. That’s why it’s only 40 years because second degree is a heat of the moment intent to harm not necessarily to kill murder.
3 likesThanks for the info kind stranger
1 likeTimestamp??
0 likes@Lucien De Rubempré it’s not in the video. This video was made before his trial you have to look it up
2 likes@Lucien De Rubempré of what?
1 like@Brandon Cole To my knowledge, it means the time he served up until and throughout the trial will be deducted from the 40 year total sentence.
0 likesI came here for this; thank you stranger
0 likes@MoonShadeStuff 15 only? That’s insane.. a life for 15 years
1 likebeen wondering, scrolling thru comments to find the info. thanks internet!
1 likeGood
0 likes@You dropped Something The system in Europe in general is disgusting. They treat murderers like victims. And I'm from Europe.
1 likeSee… he was crying for nothing. He will be able to wear a chefs coat again.
0 likes@Lucien De Rubempré watch the video yourself and stop commenting for time stamps on every one
1 like@MoonShadeStuff 😂40 years is the least you could get, someone got 90 years and then multiple life in prison sentences on murder and atempted murder.
0 likes@Ariana Rainbow daamn
0 likes@Omphaloskopie Ya connected by the youtube algorythm
1 likeDo we know why he killed her?
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It's touched on in the video. He didn't want her blabbing to management that they were seeing each other. It was probably just an argument that spun out of control.
0 likesMe every 2 second: Cap 🧢 🤡
1 likeJust here because I miss JCS
0 likesBonefish Grill * out of *****. Food was decent. Nothing to write home about. My Buffalo Jalapeno Ranch was a bit cold when they it got to table. Was originally going to leave a two star review on account of the manager/head chef clumsily murdering his ex girlfriend in the parking lot in broad daylight while I was finishing my cheesy ranch dressing bowl, but I noticed that he had been freshly UNSCABBED, and it's difficult not to recognize that level of culinary commitment and it really bumped it up to three.
2 likesMost restaurants in the Jacksonville area leave their entire staff FULLY scabbed, and I have to be honest, when you dine in a "SCAB FREE" restaurant, there really IS a noticeable difference in the quality and overall experience and it's honestly refreshing to see a head chef with the experience to take that seriously. Your average Jacksonville chef will maybe...MAAAAAYBE pick their scabs off in the shower before work, but do you think they're going to go back, 4 hours later, and pick those very same scabs off when they reform later during their shift? UNLIKELY! And that's the Bonefish Grill DIFFERENCE!
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go never eat in a restaurant for the rest of my life
Update as of 2/5/2021: He was denied his self defense claims and still rots under the prison where he belongs.
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Thanks for this
55 likesFor all sane people outside of the US it's 5/2/2021
283 likesThanks for the update, law man!
6 likes@Joseph Thank you.
19 likes@Joseph and 2021/05/02
10 likes👏👏👏👏👏 good news 🙏🌹
3 likesWhat was his sentence?
2 likes@gerry whelan still on hold since 2019. . Google his name 🤔
1 like@Habibi what is still on hold??
0 likes@Joseph thank you! I have no idea what brainlet decided month before day in north america
14 likes@Poopin Fruz we aren’t all like that lol🥴that’s not how I tell time anyway
3 likes@Tiffani Kyana Kinnebrew nice bait sister
4 likes@Arbiter of Truth OhI thought they were still talking about day/month format lol. The comment talking about how people outside the U.S tell time was really confusing and I’m not sure why it was brought up, so chill out we’re on the same side
3 likes@Arbiter of Truth in England we do day/month/year. I.e. 15/2/2021
4 likesHe's rotting under a prison? Yeah, ok then...
2 likesyup there's no way he could state it was self defence if it showed her trying to get out of the car three times.
1 likeWhat he did was unforgivable! But let's not make fun of him. The reality is we don't know if he actually intentionally killed her. You can end up killing someone unintentionally, and then you will have people making fun of you while you rot in jail, think about that! Anything can happen tomorrow, maybe you will be in the same position as him, think about that!
2 likes@Abayomrunkoje Musa you must be joking. Whether it was intentional or not, he burned her body then threw her in a lake. Only a sicko could do something like that. Also 75% her body suffered wounds and she was seen trying to get out of the car three times - thats not "accidental". Save your moral compass and stick it somewhere else other than his ass.
13 likes@Tori mhhhm So only a sicko can dispose a body the way he did? I mean have you even been in a situation where you killed someone? Is it not possible that the fear of the consequences can drive you to do things that you never believed you can do. If i killed someone unintentionally, i would probably do what he did, not because im a sicko, it's because i would do anything to avoid destroying my life, im 100 percent sure many people would do the same thing, or did you really think people will just hand themselves in to the police station and destroy the rest of their lives?
4 likesGrr i spoiled myself for the conclusion:(
1 like@Abayomrunkoje Musa Just number one rule don't put your hands on people it's that simple.
3 likesSelf defense will prove itself no need to run.
But hey man, whatever lets you sleep at night bro
Thank you
0 likesBeen found guilty
0 likes@Joseph also 05FEB2021
0 likes@Abayomrunkoje Musa yeah I totally go around killing people with my bare hands and sometimes ha trouble determining if I killed them. Totally understandable 🙄
2 likes@Poopin Fruz it’s because when you speak you say it month day year “it’s February 5th, 2021”
3 likes@Skunkskie Stink most Europeans would say "it's the fifth of February, 2021" so that is how they would write it. 5-2-2021
3 likesHe can be the prison chef.
3 likesPlead Guilty today
0 likes@Refiki when you throw out a lot of line you're going to catch a spoiler fish
0 likes@Scars, rust, & pixie dust that's crazy. Learn something new everyday. But there are several things like that that we take for granted are the same in different cultures. Like in English we say I am 33 years old. In Spanish u say I have 33 years. Age is something u have it's something u own opposed to something u literally are. So the meaning of something like years of life is completely different.
0 likes@4bibimimi i like this
0 likes@Poopin Fruz because we write the date in the order that we say it verbally: most people over here would say "February 5th, 2021" rather than "the 5th of February, 2021".
1 likeEDIT: oh, someone beat me to it. But yea, it's just an insignificant little cultural difference; not something to get worked up over or have strong feelings about, as I see in some of these other comments lol.
@Joseph For all the sane people who use the actual ISO standard way of writing dates, it is 2021-02-05 if we are talking about what Americans call February 5th, 2021. I think it is fine for archiving purposes to write 20210205 in digital filenaming and add the "-" for legibility in writing, but to not start with the biggest unit and go to smaller seems weird, especially in digital filenames (if you start with the month for example, you get all january dates from every year first and so on, while YYYYMMDD kind of auto-organizes by date when sorting alphabetically). Anyway, long story short, people should really use YYYY-MM-DD everywhere.
1 likeQuick question: why do don't people use the phrase "under the prison" to mean in prison? I've never heard it before but I've recently seem quite a few people in the comment sections of videos like this say it. I'm just curious where it comes from
0 likes@Joseph i agree with you day month year is the way it should be
0 likesI want a lawyer
0 likesI’m honestly dumbfounded by this guy, but he does deserve to be in prison
0 likes@Abayomrunkoje Musa Oh please.. unintentional my ass! His actions were intentional! Had he mistankingly hurt her, he wouldn't have intentionally tried getting rid of the evidence. Common sense must not be so common in your little realm, eh?!
2 likes@John Gribbin His sentencing?
0 likes@Tony Stankard Woah! You just put my head in a little spin! 😆
1 like@LeAnn S March 10th or 11th 2021, I think that is what I read. He plead Guilty to her Murder.
0 likes@LeAnn S crazy right? How bout this one. The Bible was originally written in Hebrew. The word "soul" does not even exist in the Hebrew language. A soul is a relatively new concept. How much does that change the whole idea if Christianity lol. We just take all this stuff for granted. The word soul was added to the Bible when translated so it would conform and confirm modern philosophies. There's billions of other things like that we take for granted are unanimous across languages and cultures and don't realize how unique and localized a lot of our characteristics are. I have a friend from chile and when u ask how tall is someone he puts his hand out to show u how tall they are by turning his hand straight up and down like u would to shake hands. The top of his thumb is their height lol. Imagine not being able to barely speak his language trying to gesture to him how tall someone is. Ud think that would be pretty universal lol but he has no idea what you are talking about because your hand is turned sideways to him haha
2 likes@LeAnn S and p.s. it's like that with everything in latin based languages not just age but anything like we say I am hungry or I am old or I am beautiful or strong or anything else. In a lot of other languages anything that describes your body is something that u have, it's not something you are. They don't think of your characteristics as something you become, it's something you acquire. And if u think about it it's kind of a better way to look at things lol
1 like@Jodi Delong that's a really common phrase down here in the south seems kinda crazy that you've never heard it before lol but if u just get put IN jail, there's a chance (however good that chance might be) that you will get out. U might get a bond or paroled or finish your sentence or break out etc. But if u get put UNDER the jail, there is no door out. Maybe ur buried under the jail or whatever. People say that meaning u should get put in jail and never have a chance to get out
0 likes@Tony Stankard oh ok that's makes sense thanks for explaining it to me! I'm from Pennsylvania and haven't heard anybody use that phrase or if I have never really noticed lol
1 likeNeeded this
0 likes@John Gribbin Has the full interrogation been released?
0 likes@Tony Stankard Although I had to read your comment twice (😅), that's quite interesting. I never knew that about the Bible or that about the Europeans (I'm assuming). I guess you're never too old to learn something new. 😊 Thanks for sharing.
1 like@Joseph My European brain should know that 2nd of May hasn't happened yet but still I had to rethink the date
0 likes@Abayomrunkoje Musa if i was in that situation, my life is destroyed the second i kill someone, whether or not it was accidental
0 likesGood, I was looking for this comment xD. Let him rot in prison
1 likeGOOD
0 likes@Joseph That date hasn't occurred yet, so you're speaking from the future... (by the US system)
0 likesHe got 40 years. This means he'll be 70 when he's released.
1 like@smileandlaughs NO CILANTRO!
0 likes@Abayomrunkoje Musa your imagination has no bounds 🤣
0 likes@Joseph oh, so its days before months?
0 likes@Joseph different combinations of numbers make you better
0 likes@LeAnn S I believe his sentence was agreed at 40 years but official sentencing won't be until March 11th.
0 likes@Blue Jazz The Election was Stolen also. LMAO
0 likes@Arbiter of Truth the metric system is messed up? 🤣🤣🤣
1 like@Joseph You can write posts in the future?! Teach me, oh blessedly educated one!
0 likes@Poopin Fruz Likely some normal person who says February 5th and not the 5th of February.
0 likes@Arbiter of Truth ?
0 likes@Poopin Fruz it’s just easier to say February fifth, not “on the fifth day of February.” In the USA, we are all about making sense. No one here walks around saying “listen to this crazy story, ok so it was the fifth of ...well I can’t remember the month”. Month is a lot more descriptive and therefor it comes first when dating an important event. If it’s in that same month you are talking about, then the date is more important. When you tell a story, and start off with “back in January....” does anyone interrupt and say, “yeah man, I get that, but was it the first, the third, the fifteenth?” No! Hence we add that in after mentioning the moth. It’s much easier to orient yourself on a monthly calendar than picturing a daily calendar when talking about past events. There’s a fifth in every month so easier to just mention the month first.
1 likewhy is he under the prison, did they dug a dungeon underneath for him?
0 likes@Poopin Fruz don’t know who put the day first... usually you care about the month first and then the day.
0 likesGood
0 likesI don't think a lengthy response is a giveaway of anything. There are quite a lot of people who would happily talk for hours after being given an open-ended question.
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I also doubt I would seem innocent if I asked "why are you asking me that?" or the like.
0 likesHe should have said he went and bought heroin with her, that would explain the lies, also he should have said he takes aspirin and thats why the cut didnt heal.
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Why do you think he should've said such things?
0 likes@nundzi for obvious reasons
0 likesppl destroying there life for no good reason
0 likesThank God he is stupid, because I rekon a good defense attorney could have caused reasonable doubt in atleast 1 juror.
0 likes“How long have you known Savannah?”
4830 likesLee: So basically my mom was addicted to meth
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68 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
3 likes@Snag_Central 😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesAdderall
0 likes@Mike Kubachka adderall and meth are not the same regardless of what ppl say
0 likesAlso, did anyone notice that he covered his tracks for any suspicion that he might have an ongoing amphetamine habit, by admitting he'd taken an Adderal (legal prescription drug), an event so rare he'd only ever done it once before. Now had they tested him, he'd have the least incriminating alibi for testing positive. Later in the story we find he dabbled but 'stepped back'. Once he had to admit to driving away with Savannah, he again contradicted himself in admitting they did drugs.
10 likesI'd guess he had a full on habit tbh.
@Skepticus Maximus it’s also kinda hilarious how easily this dude admits to crimes lmao. They got him to literally confess to MURDER in under an hour, and he admitted a crime on the first damn question they asked him with the drugs.
5 likes@Andy Gygi I guess the thinking is that, if I'm totally forthcoming with something relatively petty, they'll assume I'm honest about the alibi or denial of the murder. Trouble is he didn't even set himself up very well for that line either.
6 likesPeople please... Always always, get a lawyer and STFU. Oh and try not to kill other folks.
@vitamin water lol ok guy
0 likesSo, bungee gum has properties of both rubber and gum...
2 likes@Skepticus Maximus this is absolutely wrong. A lab can tell the difference between meth and adderall I take adderall and when I get drug tested at work it shows a failure and they have to send it to a lab to be tested and see if it’s meth or a prescription amphetamine.
0 likes@Kut Throat Well that's interesting. I wonder if its the same for dexamphetamine. Nevertheless he'd have been assuming as I did. Any amphetamine will test the same. And if they have to send it to a lab for a more rigorous test, why bother if he has given a reasonable excuse for a positive? Its half alibi half bluff... so... it's an alibluff.
0 likes"where is Savannah?"
0 likesA rodeo clown raped me once... I accidentally popped his neck
hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣 so cringe
0 likesThen spill guts 🤣
0 likesWhy the fuck did this guy kill her though
0 likeswhy isn’t the confession bit released??
0 likesNot my emotional ass feeling sorry for him 🙄
2 likes40 years. Good.
0 likes"She slapped me and I was afraid to be the first man slapped to death by a tiny lady, I had to defend myself. I fought for my life against those slaps, with just one neck grab, and her neck just snapped. 😔 I didn't mean for this to happen..."
107 likesSuch a crazy case, so interesting getting to see an actual reaction after his confession. Your work is so fantastic, thank you!
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It isn't unrealistic. For people that don't get in fights, blows to the face are really shocking. You just freeze up and and engage flight or fight and I think he could have throttled her to death easily.
2 likes@Free Candy the door opening and closing 3 times makes me think of a long struggle. He is not LEnny from of mice and men.
1 like@StainMane I don't think it's what happened but it isn't impossible. People seem to think that no man would be scared by a girl attacking them. It's a pretty ignorant and outdated belief.
0 likesDon't know if you have been hit in the face repeatably by someone you could kill with one hand but it is hard not to hit back and if you are an idiot with no will power you are going to kill them. Fight or flight is a hard instinct to overwrite. I am not saying that is what happened.
0 likes"One day when you have kids" 😂😂😂 sike
0 likesdamn thats crazy, I live here.
0 likesHow is this not coercion?
0 likesThe lady detective makes me cringe!! so obviously being fake lol I mean I get that’s her job but still 😂
0 likesNot only did this guy brutally murder the girl (probably by 5 or more minutes of strangulation), but now he's trying to assassinate her character by calling her a drug addict that "attacked him" and made him "afraid for his life". How does this guy even stand living with himself?
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A human mind does things on its own in high distress. You could be doing the same if you killed her. Its your brain trying to rescue YOU
4 likes@arbj That does not really mean she was not a drug addict.
0 likesThat story about her attacking him, must be what his attorney suggested him to say
1 likeI’m not arguing that he is good, or even that he’s not deplorable, but I will say: in his position, with such limited options, (NOT legally speaking) it makes sense & I don’t think I nor other men are above scrabbling at the sides when the tank fills up with water.
1 like@Olli Rolli because he's besmirching the character of a woman he murdered
2 likesI Immediately thought his reasoning for explaining her as a drug addict was to create a red herring. If he could convince them that she was a drug addict, it might have been a dealer somehow somewhere that would have killed her, freeing him from the spotlight.
3 likesWhether or not that is the case.. i cant know!
@Oscar Patino its longevity in your system is shorter than you'd think. However an addict would need it to constantly be in their system. Doesn't mean they weren't withdrawing or trying to kick tho.
0 likes“I don’t know” 🤕
0 likeswatching every video for mr beast 1 billion dollar among us tournment
0 likesI miss your videos.
0 likesDo you know Savannah?
0 likes"Once upon a time in America...."
JCS is the most criminally underated channel on YouTube.
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I see what y did there.
16 likesbig facts bro. like i gotta clean my house and i just discovered this channel and now boredom will not be a problem
0 likesOmg...poster boy for TMI
0 likesHat backwards, to one side, really? In my opinion? Do not ask!
1 like34:00 don't kill someone then stupid. This is beyond pathetic.
0 likesLord not another one from Jacksonville.. i may need to move.
0 likesDetective was straight up a fucking viper with “what happened to your neck?”
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@Aydin Tebyanian lmao
9 likesFemale detective "on ur neck?!"
79 likes@Aydin Tebyanian I audibly laughed
2 likesPeriod. Ain't nobody playing with you boy.
7 likesTime stamp....
1 like@Lucien De Rubempré It happens at 19:27. My man detective was fucking sharp
24 likeswhat is viper
0 likes@Aydin Tebyanian I’m howling 😭😭😭
1 like@Sveenu Vipers are a type of venomous snake known for striking their pray with lightning speed.
8 likes@Luke Gilson LOL
0 likes@Lucien De Rubempré 13:12
0 likesShit even caught me off guard lmao
3 likesHe dropped that so quickly, I put my hand to my own neck, looking for a scratch!
0 likesI wonder why they changed the title
1 likeGood news bad news situation.
0 likesGood news, they got chefs in prison cuz.
Bad news, it’s one of best gigs in there no way homebois gonna let you do shit you killed a woman you maniac.
40yrs he got
0 likeshow ironic, im cooking while watching this
0 likesThey cracked this in under an hour, I must admit I'm really impressed with both detectives
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The suspect was dead in the water
14 likesthey cracked it in 20min, because they caught him lying, because they know she never left the car, and he says she left the car
31 likes@Folk Rocket fax
3 likes@Baba booey boi I see what you did there..fucked up for sure but.. I see ya😭
1 likeWould had been sooner if he didn't give such LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG answers
7 likesnah suspect is just an idiot, should have asked if they try to make him guilty and ask for lawyer
9 likesNah it was the adderall that did most the work 🤣👀
5 likesIt was good work... but still was a solved case. maybe it was closed right after he said she got in his car that day/ maybe even from before the interrogation.
0 likesIt wasn’t too hard to crack.
2 likesYeaaah... that woman overdid her performance.
0 likesThis is a shorter version of the interrogation
0 likes@NoEscapeEver “Overdid her performance” yeah dude it was totally just a performance... missed the part when she mentioned she was a mother? Or maybe just extremely sympathetic and worried about Savanna? Was not just a performance...
1 like@NoEscapeEver It worked.
0 likes@Julie Exel Of course it worked, but she didn't need to be loud and obnoxious about it.
0 likes@Julie Exel That's not entirely why it worked. Lee is a dopey cookie, and his lies were immediately called out and ripped apart. It wasn't just the woman's terribad acting that worked, just the fact that they punched through his bullshit.
0 likesHe should to not talked to the police . Tell them you are not talking without a lawyer . They have a video but you would be a free man if you don’t open your mouth . They had evident on me but I told the police I’m not going to talk without a lawyer . I was arrested attempted murder I bailed myself out and the da never picked up the charges due to lack of Evidence. They need that confession to convict you without a reasonable doubt . They don’t have a confession 65% of the time they gonna free your guilty ass
0 likesThat car had a circle logo
0 likesthought "bon fish" was french.
1 likeI just wanna say Bone Fish Grill is delicious 🙌🏾
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I mean it is bussin 😂🤣
1 like@tem Peaq18 😂😂😂
1 likeI love how after his confession, the one thing he regrets is telling the truth and not killing a girl in cold blood and burning her body.
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Well in his mental breakdown he clearly talks about how stupid it was that he killed her instead of just walking away
513 likesIt’s a Self preservation instinct kicking in, his guilt of her murder would come later
162 likesSpoiler alert!! I'm only 10 minutes in!
39 likesActually he did, the last 25% of the whole vid is him crying sorry about what he did
168 likesHe went through whole range of thoughts emotions regrets remorse etc. I was thinking if that were me I could see going from denial to remorse to being angry at victim then realizing I am the pos & ruined both our lives over a moment of rage... I get it & I think that's what happened with him. I mean I can't justify his actions but he at least did apologize to Savannah where many killer refuse to acknowledge the victim at all or continue to blame victim never accepting their own responsibility ever so I give this guy little tiny credit for that. But I wonder if it was just for cameras cuz he did plead not guilty & self defense claim so ya he was a good actor psychopath more I think of it.
117 likes@CARI BROWN I don't think it was acting. a plea is far from someone's actual feelings
24 likes@James Baumann Maybe don't read the comments until you've finished the video, doofus.
95 likesAgreed. His plea had zero to do with his feelings.
11 likes@CARI BROWN he said they both used drugs, both young and trying to figure out life. He most likely killed her in a spur of the moment emotional distress and that big mistake caught up to him. His reaction is what I imagined to b normal after doing something that bad, out of character
31 likes@Jonathan H Kim right? Is it like the first time watching these? Most of these are mom's who respond deadpan to police talking about their dead babies bodys. But a dude balling his eyes out is a ice cold psychopath
19 likeshe assumes they understand bc his job said co-worker relationships lol
0 likesWell in his hysteria he realized that his freedom was over. Once he understood this fact, he broke down. As he only cares about self preservation
17 likes@Alex Welch I don't get this criticism. It's on every video. Of course he's gonna breakdown after punishment. That's why there's a punishment. So ppl regret bad decisions. The thing ppl don't see is usually the hell ppl face to make these decisions to even ending someone's life. Dealing with social pressure at his workplace as a chef seemed to equate to a jail cell in that moment
13 likes@hollywood dc You should regret the crime you did, not just the punishment. Especially in a murder case.
10 likes@Twilight Stories yes, read all the comments above
7 likesSPOILER ALERT!
1 likeHe did say "I'm so sorry savanna...you were so nice to me" not that it matters but 😞😞
11 likesI'm from Jacksonville and know the situation he totally lied he was trying to be with her and she didn't want him and refused him and that's why he killed her because his macho player ego was hurt
14 likesI'm from Jacksonville and know the situation he totally lied he was trying to be with her and she didn't want him and refused him and that's why he killed her because his macho player ego was hurt
1 likeHe literally said that he is sorry to Savannah in his monologue.
10 likesHe does feel remorse though in saying "Im so sorry Savannah. Im so sorry." I am in no way defending him for this crime, I'm not a murderer apologist, but he did feel remorse for killing her.
19 likesThis is simply untrue. He clearly had at least some regret. Repeatedly calling himself a piece of shit and apologizing to his victim.
10 likesFirst, why would you love that? Second, that is not the case. He says, "Savannah was so nice to you. For somebody who was a bitch to you. How does that make any sense?" He's saying that he left Savannah (and subsequently killed her) to be with someone else who, in his words, was a bitch to him. It seems quite clear that he regrets this.
6 likes@hollywood dc at first I felt his reaction was genuine & acknowledged he seemed remorseful however the fact he didn't just admit guilt & take a plea deal but instead pleaded not guilty - this alone made me pause & question how genuine & sincere he was being. He took a huge risk going to trial with all evidence against him including this video but he claimed self defense... completely blaming victim for her own death, a terrifying 90lb girl. That's where he lost all credibility with me. I understand one needs a defense in trial & this was prob only shot he had . While I do feel some of those emotions were genuine & normal when a good person makes one snap very bad decision.. I have to wonder if he was trying to seem remorseful for camera. Once he figured his self defense angle, he did blame her in the end
6 likes@CARI BROWN that's some really good acting, and really quick litigation planning, if you think he was acting to fall in line with his lawyers defense in a trial months, if not years later. I'm doubting a Applebee's chef who's never been to a murder trial, knew how to prep this up for a camera in line with a future defense..... He says several times he screwed up his own life after just seemingly getting shit together, as new head chef, and not getting in trouble with other dumb shit.... It seems more of a stretch that crying during interrogation was just manipulation for a stone cold killer
3 likes@CARI BROWN Pleading something is defined by lawyers and 'logic'. We never see a sincere criminal/perpetrator/etc. In an interview they are pressured (don't forget all the false confessions) and in court they are trying their best to survive. My mother trains pastors in working with people who have psychological issues, and that includes prison pastors and thus I have some special interest in their stories... and the way these types of criminals over time see their acts is all over the place. You have everything, from complete victim blaming to thinking they are the worst thing to have ever walked on this earth.
3 likesWhat confession? They showed everything but the confession and then after.
4 likesAnd won’t release it. Kinda odd
add spoiler pls lol
0 likes@James Baumann Why are you in the comments then?
2 likes@James Baumann why did you go into the comments
1 likeSourcy
0 likesTbf, it was an accident, ngl.@Twilight Stories When global warming really kicks in do you think people are going to be filled mostly with regret and remorse for the way they treated the planet, or with instincts of self-preservation and fear over how they can deal with new and extreme weather conditions?
1 likeWhy do you love that?
0 likesLoose lips sink ships I guess.
0 likesNot true. He had remorse. Not defending him, but you are lying.
3 likes@James Baumann this ain’t no reality drama man this is someone’s life.
0 likesThis is a prime example of why apologies mean nothing and are just empty platitudes. Anything said or done that would warrant an apology is full well known at the time of doing or saying it. If you do it or say it anyway, any apology given after the fact is to me, pointless and empty. The only thing people apologize for is getting caught or called out as they would never apologize if nobody ever knew they said or did it. I personally do not offer or accept apologies for this reason. The easiest way to avoid anyone expecting one from you is to treat all with respect and do or say nothing with intention of malice to begin with.
3 likes@-Elliott- average dragon enjoyer I'm not and never have said nor expect everyone to agree with my personal take on the psychology of apologies. My entire take on it is built from my own personal experiences and relationships. Not owing apologies is just simple logic but not accepting them is completely up to each individual. When someone offers me an apology for their behaviour or poor choice of words etc. I don't just write them off I simply offer an alternative which is...instead of apologizing because you got caught, just don't do things in the future that would require such. It really isn't all that hard to do the right thing even when nobody is watching.
0 likes@CARI BROWN he said mmultiple times that he was gonna get killed in prison, so...
0 likes@Michael Fox so you expect people to be saints? we make 'mistakes' its what people do.
4 likes@Michael Fox Apologies at their core are an individual admitting they made a mistake. That what happened was not how they wished to act. Of course there can be insincere apologies, but claiming that all apologies are insincere is claiming that humans can't learn from their mistakes, grow and forgive each other. Humans aren't machines that make perfectly calculated choices. Not offering an apology when you made a mistake is literally claiming that you don't make mistakes, thus putting the fault always with the other party. My sincere recommendation after any negative interaction with another human is to literally ask yourself "is there anything I could apologize for?", as that sets the tone for the entire discussion: a tone that invites reflection and growth.
5 likes@Άγγελος Μορίκης Im not talking about little mistakes,..im talking about actions or statements made with intent knowing full well what the outcome will be if found out. I did not use the word malice by mistake. Even little mistakes are better dealt with by learning to not do that rather than an empty "im sorry" and then 2 weeks later you do it again.
0 likes@David Mulder That is a very valid argument but doesnt really address my point. What I am referring to are actions or statements said or done with intent and full knowledge of the potential outcome. Example,..your buddy borrows your car and you trust him because he is generally a responsible person but on this occasion he goes out and has a few drinks and hits a trash can or a stop sign...nothing major just a bit of damage. An apology is hollow from that point as he knew the potential consequences of doing this but did it anyway. Same thing as in a heated argument with your wife you call her a bitch or a cunt...no real harm but you knew the use of simple words could potentially destroy your relationship but said it anyway. My entire point is not simple mistakes but actions or words that you know beforehand are going to cause harm either physically or emotionally but you do/say them anyway. Apologies at that point are pointless as the fact you gave no forethought to begin with shows you had every intention of doing or saying what you did regardless of outcome. My response to apologies is simply dont apologize just dont do it if its going to require an apology afterward.
1 likeIt sounded like he regretted MANY things. Why they didn't release the actual confession, but still released the aftermath , should be a cause for concern. Seeing JUST the emotional carnage without it's actual cause is a HIGHLY manipulative act towards the public, the media, and through the media the pool of potential jurors for any trial.
1 like@Michael Fox Extreme emotion and a overload of adrenaline can cause people to say or do something to hurt the other person not unlike a clumsy punch being thrown without thinking or the intent to kill or maim. If that is the case an apology could be both genuine and helpful, even if only as a way to move separately forward with one less festering regret and gain emotional closure of one door of life so another can be more cleanly and positively opened. Obviously that is a substantially different set of doors if the conduct in question is a horrifically violent crime or vicious, cruel words written or spoken in a calculated way for maximum harm to achieve the longest lasting lament.
4 likes@Sean Brazell If you find an apology in that sort of context useful or helpful that's fine and I'm not saying you shouldn't,.....I'm simply just not wired that way. To me anything done that would require an apology can easily be avoided with a moment of forethought and a sense of right and wrong. Situational awareness is in my opinion one of the most important aspects of living in a society.
0 likes@Sean Brazell The cause for his emotional breakdown was because he got caught....period. He had no real remorse for his actions and until he was caught never gave her a second thought. His main concern was his own welfare made apparent by his statements of he was going places...I'm gonna die in jail etc. He didn't show an ounce of remorse for having killed her. His actions were completely intentional and calculated and he deserves no sympathy of any kind.
2 likes@Sam Guile exactly my point.
3 likes@Dylan JC only cuz he got caught
1 likeHe clearly said I'm so sorry savannah while crying tf are you talking about
0 likes@Michael Fox I'm talking about the fact that he clearly apologized while crying lol
1 like@THRAX BERSERKER Im simply saying his pathetic apology is pointless meaningless and empty. The only thing he regrets is being caught. His actions prove that to be true.
4 likesYea but he only considers her way after the fact. He was more mad about getting caught then anything. Then as he grieved he regretted it but up until that point he had clearly no regrets even showing up you could tell he thought he was gana get away with it
1 likeIs he though? Are u are mind reader? I understand why u wouldnt like the guys, but still, that doesnt mean that he doesnt care about the girl (Or about killing her to be more specific)
2 likesYou shouldn't be surprised
0 likesYou must have gone out of your way to get that interpretation
2 likes@whatsgoingon07 I don’t think he has much quilt. He tried to claim self defense.
1 like@hollywood dc He claimed not guilty and said it was self defense..
1 like@Kratoes I don't understand what are you trying to say?
0 likesNot really
0 likes@hollywood dc Im saying that him whining about regretting it the last 25% means nothing since in court he plead not guilty and blames her, and claimed self defense against her.
1 like@Kratoes did you read the above comments? A legal plea in court prepared by a litigation team hardly means what someone is actually feeling about a situation
1 likeIf he cared he wouldn't have done it
1 likeYup.
0 likes@whatsgoingon07 He never felt any guilt.
0 likes@hollywood dc He was upset he was caught. That's it.
0 likes@Andrea Manning So.
0 likes@whatsgoingon07 He never had any guilt. Not one bit.
0 likes@Michael McGee how is someone supposed to act then?
0 likes@hollywood dc The ONLY reason he cried was because he realized he was going to jail.
0 likesLove how u deadahh just made that up 😐
1 like@CARI BROWN what is more genuine. Raw statements made during emotional breakdown, or moves in the cold game called court. With clear mind and lawyers giving legal advices.
1 likeTrial has little to do with feeling of regret.
9,9/10 humans that will commit a crime worth regretting, would prefer to regret it outside jail. Just because the self preservation instinct kicks in, which y'all love to talk about like you're all a psychologists, doesn't mean he won't regret that day till his death. Just because he will regret this day till his death, doesn't mean that he will abandon life and just give up.
He didn't kill her in cold blood. He stupidly allowed this girl, who was evidently troublesome, to get under his skin to the point where he snapped.
0 likesHe even said that she was good to him and that he should have told her to leave him alone.
1 likeWell actually he apologizes to her multiple times (not justifying it just saying)
1 likedid u not watch the same video i did?
0 likesHe does say "I'm sorry Savannah" at some point, and also something like "She was nice to you". There has to be some kind of guilt for killing her.
0 likes@Gui Caldo He also said "fucking Savannah" as though blaming her for his outcome. Finally if any said guilt was worth anything, even considering evidence such as a whole ass confession, why would he not plead guilty, the very least he could do, even if advised by lawyers to fabricate the story, to agree and say u killed in self defence. How low can you be.
0 likesNo, he regretted the murder.
1 like"Why didn't you tell her to leave you alone"
"This isn't you, Lee"
"I'm so sorry Savannah"
All clearly reffering to her death
OK wait I just read through these rosponses
2 likesGuys, no offence but, are you dumb?
"Why didn't you just tell her to leave you alone?"
"This isn't you, Lee"
"I'm so sorry Savannah"
"She was so nice to you"
All of those where said by him, all of them clearly refer to how much he regretted killing her. He wouldn't be apologising to her for admitting that he killed her. He's apologising for killing her. Come on.
Btw, I don't want to seem like I'm defending him. He's a murderer and deserves jail for life. I'm just annoyed that this many people got it wrong.
@Munch Moo He's feeling conflicted emotions. This man is obviously not okay, and in his state he can snap back and forth between anger, self-pity, fear, remorse within moments. All of these emotions are real, but a lot of people here zero in on one of them and pretend like the others don't exist.
1 likeI guess it's easier to see murderers as soulless monsters and not as human beings just like us.
He's an awful guy, but saying that he only felt regret about telling the truth isn't true, though it is one of the factors in his emotional response
4 likesThis is not cold blooded murder. It was done in the heat of the moment.
2 likes@James Baumann pro tip: don't check the comments lol
0 likesCries for his mommy... These people are unbelievable. Yea your a real man dude...
0 likes@CARI BROWN lmaoooooo that's decided by his lawyers
0 likes@Seth Nope you're wrong.
0 likes@Old Ironsides It's been released now. Look it up.
0 likes@Michael McGee He literally did. He's crying and apologizing. Like I said, I don't feel bad for him, or forgive him for his dumbass crime, but he did feel remorse. Remorse and anger kind of go hand in hand when you kill a person if you have even a shred of sanity. He's mad at her for him killing her, like an idiot, but he still was remorseful. Probably for both her because he ended her life, and for himself because now he has to deal with the consequences.
1 like@Seth exactly, what do these ppl not get. Nobody said let him free, but he's literally the only one of these videos that actually showed remorse. Do these ppl prefer the mom's who strangle their 2 yr old babies and dump them as if it was tues's trash, without a shred of emotion?
0 likes@Michael McGee since you are so much more morally enlightened, please describe the proper appropriate way for this man to have reacted after the interrogation
0 likes@Old Ironsides It's out there now.
0 likes@hollywood dc Mum dumps her baby as trash Lee dumps his girlfriend as trash. Please explain the difference?
0 likes@Michael McGee I like how you've avoided the question completely. How is the man supposed to react and what was the appropriate response? Without irrelevant commentary
0 likes@The Galactic Emperor How long you been out of jail or is that the psychiatric ward?
0 likes@hollywood dc Every bit of my comentary is relevent.
0 likesYou don't like tough questions that's all.
@James Baumann My common sense tells me not to read comments if I don't want anything spoiled. And here I am in the comment section after watching the entire video.
0 likes@hollywood dc A mother who dumps her baby's body in a trash can
0 likes= monster.
A guy who dumps his girlfriend's body in a trash can
= poor misunderstood sweetheart,
because he cried.
Tell me again why you're morally superior? I keep forgetting.
Well, not that it’s much…but he did say, “I’m so sorry Savanah”, AFTER crying for himself.
1 like@Dodged a Bullet So! Are you another one of these bleeding hearts that gives a vicious murderer a pass because they blubbered 'sorry' after the fact.
0 likes@Dylan JC So?
0 likesWell then "I love how.." doesnt really work here well does it
0 likesi dont understand why you or JCS think this, he was clearly telling himself he was stupid for killing her. its clear he is not a murderer and that was not at all his intention, it only became such as the moments heat continued to rise. it might baffle some people that I can say this, but I think lee is really a lot more of a normal guy than you would originally think, just with possible serious anger issues. after killing her he probably instantly goes shit what have i done, and realises he needs to save himself from incrimination.
1 likeyou can also see afterwards in his breakdown the anguish he feels at himself for ruining his life because of this mistake.
Lee is a murderer, and he should get punished, but we have to remember what prison is for. it is to threaten those of what will come if they do the wrong thing, and it is to teach people of what will happen if they do the wrong thing again. honest to god, do you think that lee would ever kill another person if he spent only a year in jail? i don't think so at all. he wants savannah to be alive, and he hates himself enough for killing her that he would probably be cautious for the rest of his life.
i really hope someone read all this, and if you did please take the time to give a detailed response with your opinion, just be careful to not talk out of emotion and think purely radically. i totally understand how crazy this sounds, he killed someone but i think he wouldnt do it again if he was barely punished? yes, but only because of my judgement of his character when he thinks no one else is watching.
and for the record this is not to say he doesnt deserve harsh punishment, only that he would not commit murder again without it.
thanks for reading btw :)
@hollywood dc good to see other people understand this
1 like@Jonathan H Kim this is a little bit attacking but i view things the same way, simply with less emotion.
0 likes@Twilight Stories exactly what he did lmao
0 likes@CARI BROWN altho i get what ur saying its clear that how he reacted in the room was real, and after having some to think he worked out how he might have a chance to save his ass. the plea has absolutely nothing to do with his true emotions, which were of remorse.
0 likes@smurphas You didn't watch the full confession. It's online they had to drag it out of him and even then he lied about how he killed her. Also the slashing of her tires and the pulling her back in as she tied to escape aswell the lying right through the interrogation and all of a sudden he's ok because he cried. Seriously?
0 likes@smurphas Nobody who strangles a person to death is a good person, no exceptions. He looked her in the eyes watched her die and didn't give a f*ck until he was caught. Don't be naive those tears were solely for himself.
0 likesHe literally says I’m so sorry savannah so I wouldn’t say that’s accurate at all and talking about how dumb he is
0 likes@James Baumann you should read comments when you already watched the video, or you will get spoilers lol
0 likes@Old Ironsides odd isn't it...
0 likes@THRAX BERSERKER yet pleads not guilty do to fearing for his own life.... Come on, he didn't mean a word of it and if he did feel sorry for killing her its only because it ruined his life.
0 likesThe putting on the chefs coat proves he's only concerned about himself and he's clearly not thinking of her.
Oh, and you may have missed it but watch the end again, thats rage when he os saying "fucking Savanna". Basically he's implying its her fault for his actions.
I hate myself for reading comments before I’m done with the video 😳
0 likesThe fact he was so passionate about being a chef "This is the last time you wear a chef clothes", also shows how a moment of stupidity can ruin your life
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And end someone else's.
84 likes@ChiefinASmith That's still by definition "a moment of stupidity". I get what you mean but OP was still right to say it like that.
25 likes@KingoftheCove cry girl
7 likes@KingoftheCove mhm… while the man is stupid, undoubtably, that word doesn’t begin to sum up the dastardly nature of this event.
8 likesHe probably got that line from Gordon Ramsey.
3 likes@KingoftheCove I mean, Lee could be a sociapath. In that case you wouldn't mind a girl's life. Don't assume that everyone have the same morals and emotions as you because they don't. But that doesn't mean they should go to jail unless they commit a crime.
3 likes@ChiefinASmith no you haven’t. Jesus fucking Christ what is it with these people. Please enlighten us all about how your parents were drugs addicts and you grew up with no moral compass and mental health issues, and you also turned to drugs. And you started dating a heroin addict and starting doing all that stuff too and then in a passion filled moment when your girlfriend is certainly attacking you, you completely lose it and lash out. Tell me that story 😉
2 likes@Oliver Cox lmao are you defending a murderer right now?
13 likes"chefs" don't work in diners. You think he knows about flavors and notes?!
3 likesYeah that bit actually got to me for some reason.
0 likes@Oliver Cox don't you ever disrespect my God again, man. Please bro delete your comment.
0 likesmurdering someone isn't just a "moment of stupidity"
4 likes@esthervs sv yes it is. Stupidity by definition is lack of sense of good judgement. We have used is in multiple places for its meaning to become something mundane, doesn't mean it's not true. What he did was stupid.
6 likes@My Master My King pipe down over there. If you don't like the comment, get off of youtube, and go to church to pray.
4 likesYou can do kitchen work in prison so not all lost lol
4 likes@Christina Forsythe I have no right?? Defending the One true God, the One who made the Heaven and the earth, ignorant people should never even blasphemed God you don't know what awaits you!
0 likes@michael forleo if you don't have anything good to say get out of youtube and clean your room
0 likes@Jek speaking from experience?
0 likes@My Master My King "should never blasphemed"? You have grammar like that, but you're lecturing people on cosmology? 😄 Go ahead and be abject to some imaginary master all you like, but don't indignantly demand that other people somehow "respect" it. That's garbage. How much respect would you have for the belief that Jack and The Beanstalk was a true story?
0 likes@Lucas Groves I have a grammar like this because I'm not an english speaker, but I could speak without even learning your pride grammar. But protecting God's dignity is my supreme duty! Let me tell you, when you die, what do you think will happened to you? You don't believe in God even though everything points out that there is a God, but what is holding you is your pride. Good luck with your damned way.
0 likes@Lucas Groves oh yes! Thank you for your criticism. I appreciate it, to be honest. But since I am not really good at english, and you are criticising me bitterly for that. Maybe after 1 month lets debate, online what would you say? I'll study grammar and you'll study your argument then lets debate?
0 likesIts your pride that stopping you from believing in God, you don't even love yourself that much but God loves you immeasurably. You think God is vindictive? How?
@Lucas Groves wheres your reply I said lets debate face to face. I will work on my grammar because you belittle me for it. Give me your email.
0 likes@My Master My King 😄 Gives me about eight things to respond to, but wants an immediate reply.
0 likes@Lucas Groves you have a lot of errors too that I could correct. But I have no time for that, but if we could debate face to face, I will have a good time. And please don't use emoji its only for kids
0 likes@Lucas Groves and let me clarify I did not mean your reply to my last reply but the long reply that you deleted thats why I ask wheres your reply. And you can laugh at my grammar but you will not laugh when you I debated you. I will expose you mark my word
0 likes@My Master My King I only ever delete a reply to avoid a trivial edit, and always replace it immediately. So you aren't missing any replies.
0 likesEvidently, you don't know it's fallacious to overstate your opponents' arguments, which you've done three times at least. You're disingenuous in claiming that I belittled you, when the opposite is what occurred. I made a rational point about the mindset of people who never notice that they've missed some basic grammar, but nevertheless move on to argue philosophy. While still never catching up on the grammar, but always ready to claim that grammar is a trivial issue. 😆 That self-involved mindset I do laugh at.
"you will not laugh when I debated you." You just did it again. blasphemed, happened, debated These are all past tense. You say "Oh, thanks for the correction, I really appreciate it." But not only is THAT a lie, you don't even actually take up the point that you call a correction! You're still making the original error! Classic passive-aggressive. You don't welcome the correction at all; you're just being sarcastic about it. Failure to notice long-missed points of development, even when they are explicitly mentioned; ordering people to remove comments because they insult some imaginary deity; persistently passive-aggressive discourse... all hallmarks of a narcissist.
@Lucas Groves thats good. But lets focus on the real issue. Lets debate, whats your answer? Are you gonna ran away like what you are doing now? Pointing unnecessary things to escape the real issue?
0 likesHe's not a chef, he's a line cook
0 likesdo passionate chefs usually peel scabs while cooking where you are from?
0 likes"A moment of stupidity". This was premeditated murder. Sheesh! He destroyed a life and left many in grief he deserves every second of jail he gets.
0 likesThis is gaslightning 191: What you saw didn't happen because I say so.
0 likes„Moment of stupidity“ was he talking to himself proud of being a chef 😝
0 likesWatching this, I realise I'm so lucky that the last time I felt this type of mortal fear was when I was 8 years old and the teacher had left me in the staff room to go call my parents and tell them that I haven't done my homework.
205 likesExperiencing that in your adulthood seems to be so crippling.
Glad I know about the long response thing and the “I don’t know” response. If I were in this situation and I were innocent I probably would have responded to those questions the same way he did
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i dont think you would. these long, detailed responses are a conscious method to appear innocent. i think in a real situation where you are being questioned by the police and also innocent your answers would be different. imagine being accused of something you didnt do by a family member or spouse.
27 likes@jonny jynxer It's important to look at this objectively too though. dude admitted he's on adderall. adderall will 100% make you ramble on about shit. so of course he was nervous bc he was guilty and I'm sure that extended his response times but an innocent man on adderall could very easily have given similarly lengthy responses.
18 likes@Tristan Miller as someone who is prescribed adderal, this is very true, I get very chatty and give overly long responses
11 likesI do interviews somewhat like this, albeit for a private company and for far less serious crimes. What you start to notice is the second point the video made -- innocent people tend to start to get mad at you when you do a direct confrontation. They'll question you, demand to see the video evidence, raise their voice, curse, etc. They'll go from totally cooperative and casual when you're in a report building phase because they think they're there to genuinely help, then get hostile as you start pressing them. That's when you start thinking maybe you've got the wrong guy. Sometimes it's an act, but usually they're actually innocent. Of course, you have to put it within the context of the individual as well. If they are a naturally meek person, they probably won't yell or curse, but they'll pout or sulk, almost disgusted at the situation.
8 likesSame I would just say I don’t know 🤷♀️
1 like@Tristan Miller but he was guilty to begin with….
0 likes@Mark von Schober reread my comment dude
1 likeall you need is one response to anything:
6 likes“lawyer”
Well, psychology isn't perfect. It's just how a majority of people will act with the help of the data collected. And those variables could vary vastly.
3 likesDon't talk without lawyer
2 likesIt's crazy because I worked with lee. He seemed like a chilled dude.
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74 likes@Natty Ok what ever you say buddy
200 likesWhat was his nickname???
34 likes(Gonna see if he was lying)
@hpallsauce I don't know his last name. When I was there we worked under a general manager named Chris. I worked at bonefish for 10 years in Gainesville then transferred there. He started working there when I got there.
188 likes@Netloc AD you guys are silly man. Lee Rodarte use to live in Los Angeles.
72 likesFor real he does seem chill and easy to trust....scary
160 likes@Ask4myOnlyFans Yeah
35 likesr/thathappened
76 likesDoes anyone else find the female interrogator a bit hysterical initially? l don't understand her approach.
299 likesProve it
5 likes@MMA TV PRODUCTIONS that’s not what he asked you buddy 🥴
16 likesYOO I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL AND I RANDOMLY FIND U, that’s pretty cool
10 likes@Grayson Thanks brother I really appreciate so much I will give you a shout out for my next video.
17 likes@MMA TV PRODUCTIONS Thanks dude but you ain’t gotta do all that man just keep posting good videos. I’m a fighter myself and the vids make the days where I’m dreading to go so much better. Just keep poppin off with the vids
16 likes@Grayson cool I got you though.
10 likesA good woman can bring out the best in the man but a bad woman can make much stronger men weak with no hope.
19 likesApparently not.
0 likes@Белый пират mwuahahaaaa watch out here I come
1 like@TD B -What an odd sentiment to put in a video like this, a video where a man murdered a young woman and blamed it on her with a "self-defence" argument. It sounds like victim blaming.
64 likesany idea why he murdered her ?
4 likesJust stop the lies. It won't help you in life.
1 like@MJBclassics What are you talking about? I worked with him for 2 years until I transferred back to Gainesville fl bonefish grill.
8 likes@EweChoober I don't get her intense appeal to emotion either. I think the narrator said it was to amp up the pressure?
13 likesFBI has entered the chat
8 likes@Matt Martinez lol
6 likes@PEATYxxjxxx meth doesn't make you a psychopath. It's literally like Adderall but less side effects and lasts twice as long. Just keep believing those harmful drug war propaganda stigmas that only perpetuate human suffering around the globe.
8 likes@wizardjokes well l guess it was so annoying it worked, like I'd probably confess too, anything to stop her wailing at me!🤣
12 likes@Bicky BooI’ve never heard someone defend meth like it was marijuana. Meth can cause rage and make people feel like they can do anything. Also the addiction is awful and in most cases ruins lives. Like it did in these case. There is also no proof this guy was s psychopath. What is evident is that these two did drugs together and under the influence of them, most likely Meth, shit got out of hand.
46 likesur sus im vote u
3 likes@MMA TV PRODUCTIONS Why was he fighting with Savanna tho? Why did they fall off?
0 likes@Divine I left Jacksonville in 2015 when it transferred back to Gainesville Bonefish. So I don't know much about his business.
3 likes🧢
0 likesHey, hey, hey, don't clout chase. Lee will never be free again. Is that what you want? Huh?
0 likes@PEATYxxjxxx He didn't say anything that was untrue. Meth has legitimate therapeutic applications and even still is used in that capacity
4 likes@D Ke and so does heroine and morphine but we know all to well that they are also highly addictive and deadly and when abused or used recreationally ruin lives.
10 likes@Mister Master what the hell are you talking of course lee will not be free again.
3 likesI am not clout chasing you silly boy. I really did work with Lee for 2 years when i transferred from Gainesville
@MMA TV PRODUCTIONS yeah thats wild i watch your vids all the time man. keep up the great work brother.
1 like@Grayson You'd be surprised at how small this world really is.
2 likes@Bicky Boo Bro stop smoking meth.
4 likesIf anything i'd recommend some shrooms or lsd.
The guy who invented lsd lived to be 102 years old.
Nuff said.
@Bicky Boo Also meth makes you lose your teeth it's really not a good idea
6 likes@Mister Master if you murder a fellow human being you deserve to be in prison for life
2 likesI didn't think i would need to explain this to you.
@Dave thanks brother appreciate it.
2 likes@EweChoober well it worked...if he didnt say nothing he woulda been able to leave as a free man.
1 like@Viper the hell he would, they already had evidence on him. He'd have left the room and been arrested right outside the police station, like Stephanie Lazarus
1 like@EweChoober they didnt they just had a recording of him but no actual footage of him commiting the crime or dnaaa
0 likes@Robotron Sage So why are you explaining it to a guy who made an obviously sarcastic statement?
0 likes@MMA TV PRODUCTIONS Have you ever heard of sarcasm?
0 likesThis dude did not think this thru.. smh. P.o.s.
1 like@Anonymous AJ dont tag reddit threads on youtube, shits cringe
4 likes@Bicky Boo so you are trying to protect meth my god please get some therapy I worry for you and your family as well as those around you get out of addiction and seek help
5 likesHe was my roommate and my best friend at one point and I do know his nickname this sucks i see this again
0 likes@MMA TV PRODUCTIONS no he has been in Jville for a long while
0 likes@john marshal he still in ducal jail or did they transport him to a different prison.
1 like@PEATYxxjxxx What's evident is that drugs have nothing to do with the scenario because the only person that mentioned drugs is the cold-blooded killer that lied from the start to the very end of this video. Don't throw drugs around as an excuse for murder.
4 likes@EweChoober Totally. She was tripping on her words and so whiny like. I didn't like her style at all. I don't feel like she's very good to tell you the truth.
1 like@TD B who's the bad woman?
3 likesInterrogation time 11:00<Guilty
1 likeU were going places, could have worn that chef coat at TGI Friday's...
1 likeIncredible
0 likesWell, he seemed like an ok dude in the video footage. Yes he killed her but he questioned his actions himself. It wasn't like he had planned of killin her, it just happened. Still awful and he deserves jail but still..
1 likeHe’s fine AF! I know he’s going to get plenty of action in prison.
0 likesHad the pleasure of meeting Lee at a charity do once. He was surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny.
1 like@TD B A man murders a woman and you think that's a reflection on HER character? Sick mind. A lost life might seem insignificant when it's a stranger and you're looking at the situation through a screen but that's a fucked up thing to say. Hope you're capable of introspection
7 likes@EweChoober "hysterical"? your internalised misogyny is showing...
4 likes@Simon HN he beat her so badly they couldn't confirm cause of death...so seriously? if you reckon this guy is an "ok dude" you are likely also a terrible person.
4 likes@kat454 Oh gtfo she literally started crying and yelling when she spoke up. Also, looks like the person you are calling misogynistic is a woman lol.. Your overzealous feminism is showing. Would you like to speak to E O C’s manager to file a formal complaint?
1 like@EweChoober I agree, was thinking the same thing. I kept thinking like lady tone it down a little.
0 likes@Simon HN dude you literally said "yes he killed her but he questioned his actions" obviously he questioned his actions?? he literally killed someone it doesn't make a difference? "yes he deserves jail BUT still" like wtf? but still what? that poor girl is dead, him "questioning his actions" does NOTHING for her.
4 likes@J woah dude don't get all hysterical on me
1 likeMMA TV PRODUCTIONS did you see savannah at all what was she like?
1 like@EweChoober I know right? She was kinda off and weird but I’m sure she caused him to worry or get scared and feel trapped and appealed to him and SHE LITERALLY BEGGED HIM damn that was interesting to watch
1 like@kat454 so you say there is absolutly no difference between a cold hearted, emotionless killer and a person with personal issues that had a rampage (probably) ONCE?!?! Yes he absolutely deserves jail but he didn't do it for pleasure, that is my point, he has a conscience. I said that it was awful, I said that he deserves jail, BUT he doesn't seem like a psychopath to me! You saying "the girl has nothing from this" is absolutely right. The only thing that matters is that he is in jail, which he is, which I agree he should be. Doesn't matter if you defend this girl or trying to condemn this man or whatever bullshit cause ou may have, just get off my balls. What is your point?
1 like@EweChoober I've thought about this, and I wanna take a stab. Lee is portrayed as a chill dude who gets along easily, and every one has something good to say about him. Her hysterics in combination with "that's someone's child" is likely trying to tug at his empathy, because it's a good guess he had some. His answers after this are subdued, and it's clear he's trying to hold himself together emotionally. I think it was worth a shot, most people in the comments seem to disagree though
4 likesHe really does seem chill, what the fuck was he thinking lol, it’s just insane, more people are capable of murder than you think I guess.
1 like@EweChoober YES!!! It was like she snapped and thought she was on a prime time cop drama or something 🙄 I wouldn’t have been able to finish the video if she went on any longer than she did. It was too extra.
1 like@TD B bologna.
2 likes@D Ke meth does not have any space in therapeutic settings. If you're referring to stimulants, they're a different story.
2 likes@mydogsioux No, people are rarely prescribed meth, e.g. for narcolepsy. You're simply incorrect, at least in regards to the US. Not sure about other countries
0 likes@MMA TV PRODUCTIONS where did you transfer from again?
0 likesarthurneddysmith thank you! Why blame a woman for the actions of a murderous man? Why blame ANYONE else for murder—other than the murderer?
1 like@kat454 first you say that i am most likely a terrible person because of thinking that he isn't a cold blooded murderer. You say he is a cold blooded murderer and then you say that he can make people (not just terrible people!) feel sorry for him. What is it now?
2 likesAnything can happen to anyone in a moment of time, it's been going on for thousands of years, and most never ever thought it could end up like this and bam bam your life and other people's lives are changed forever.. and usually over something stupid... So sad...
1 like@Milo S Anyone else who doesn't know how to use Google want to come out of the woodwork?
0 likes@Milo S Good job. You really owned that guy, whoever he was, who was arguing that it was given to kids at the same frequency of Ritalin. As well as the guy who said it was never used at all in the last 60 years. Oh wait, that was you.
0 likes@Milo S You decided to fact check it and you were wrong and yet you've been carrying on like I was wrong and as if I said all these things I didn't say while writing a novel in the comments section. Do you take stimulants yourself? Because it really sounds like it.
0 likes@Milo S You should adjust things. Tomorrow morning read this comment thread again and you'll see how unnecessary most of the things you said were. I am someone who made one-two offhand comments (which btw were accurate... I never said anything about the merits of meth, merely that it is used) and you came at me in a way I think you'll see was inappropriate. I suggest reading up on what hypomania is as well. Take it easy.
0 likes@TD B damn that is a messed up thing to say in this context - are you watching this from prison after murdering a chick or what?
3 likes@EweChoober she serves to humanize the girl and her parents. Saying she has a kid the same age and getting so upset, it worked because he confessed and did get emotional
1 like@Bicky Boo ok heisenberg
1 like@Nahani Yes right a woman shows emotions for a dead girl and she's "whiny." If she's not a mother she deserves an Oscar because I'm a mom and that's just how it is
1 like@Ya Yo gainesville Fl bonefish grill.
2 likesMMA TV PRODUCTIONS he asked you what his nickname was, not his last name. Lol Are you an accomplice?? 😎
0 likes@JJ Lady Lol Lee was just someone I worked with.
2 likes@kat454 Excuse me but do you realize what you're doing? People here watch many of these videos and have seen a lot of psychopaths showing no sign of remorse and who often planned their crimes. This person you're talking with has said nothing wrong by comparing different types of murderers. Why are you trying so hard to make him/her feel guilty about a valid comparison that criminologists do? All killers are not the same, none can be considered as "good people", but yes, some are worse than others. Thus, it's valid to say that Lee at least confessed and showed signs of remorse. It's "better" than others. He's also a coward and tried to save his skin by accusing the victim after that. Nobody here said he was a good person.
3 likesI really didn't like the way you tried to make this person feel guilty about something even criminologists say. That was abusive in itself.
So chill it froze his heart some would say
2 likesJust trying to plug your bs channel lol
0 likesGot immm
0 likes@I AM SOMEBODY I understand and Simon, I apologise. I wouldn't usually come at people so harshly but I think this case just really affected me because I find it offensive to the victim when people commend killers for showing remorse, I feel the bar is too low. However I agree none of us are criminologists and I was out of line.
3 likes@Simon HN I am sorry Simon. Please see my above comment. I truly don't think you are a terrible person, that was out of line.
3 likes@kat454 That's understandable. Your response is admirable and much appreciated... 🙏🏻
4 likes@kat454 thanks, that was the reason I kept commenting. Accused of being a terrible person and then it got out of control. Let's just agree that he belongs in prison for good! Thanks again for apologizing and sorry for getting personal.
3 likes@EweChoober hysterical with the fake sympathy and see through tactics. She would quickly bring me back to my senses if i was about to spill.
2 likesMe too.
0 likes@Cyber_sad_grl lol did you actually read the whole thread?
0 likes@kat454 ..
0 likes@arthurneddysmith
0 likesIf I poke a snake and die from the bite and someone calls me a dumbass, is that victim blaming?
Being a victim doesn't free a person from responsibility.
@TD B im sorry what? I did not just read this... Are you blaming the girl who was murdered for his actions? This is the problem with yall psychos, always blaming the victims.
1 like@EweChoober yeah I was kinda laughing, I mean she clearly was acting and she came off so suddenly.
0 likes@Gerry Crowe you remember chris, and rome
0 likes@Gerry Crowe I left jacksonville about 6 years ago.
0 likesE O' C I have a feeling that was their aim. I found her irritating and cringe but imagine being under that pressure and being irritated and feeling cringe. Would make you admit to anything just to get out the room.
0 likes@mandala 314 ooooo... you're a Mom????? Lol I'm a mom too and that's not even what I was talking about.
0 likesI can imagine that during interrogation what would have happen to Mr. lee if he was in India..
0 likes@Natty no. He isn't. Don't be a jerk.
0 likes@EweChoober it's called doing her job. It's an act.
0 likes@burnsie b I'm sure and it worked!
0 likes@Victor J. Sooo.... you recently had experience with ALL psychopaths? I dont even wanna argue, thats fucking incredible.
0 likesThat's scary man. Just goes to show, you never know who is going to take that step over the edge.
0 likes@Simon HN Late to the party but I enjoy how that conv got rescued, kudos to all 3. Always take with a huge grain of salt and patience whenever sb does the woke labeling tactic out of the gate.
1 likeI would add though, that as I read your OP I instantly thought it was too vaguely expressed for a sensitive topic like this. I figured ppl were going to interpret whatever they wanted - feminists and misogynists alike - when you left your final conclusion hanging. I wasn't convinced you actually had your own mind completely made up either on what exact conclusion you were going for.
It's worth keeping in mind that a lot of brutal killers etc garner more sympathetic attention by some than their actions and redeeming qualities merit. This is off-putting to a lot of victims, families and observers. So for all who don't want to get lumped together with knee-jerk apologists and occasional misogynists, it's wise to keep all ambiguity out of way when formulating nuanced feelings about murderer so and so.
Listen to his voice
0 likes@Per Arheim Happy you responded in such a delicate and understanding way. It is true that I am in general too vague and I can't get my point and feelings across, great analysis. And I am glad that even if I am not fully understood, it is known why I am not understood.
0 likeswhenever you see people with no issues, that's when you doubt them, people with no issue does not exist, they just hide it well. or are ashamed to share their problems with others.
0 likesThe people who complain most and talk a lot about their problems, in my experience are usually the most harmless.
@Simon HN "delicate" wasn't what I had in mind, but I'll take it 😄 And I hear you, nobody likes to get pilloried online on the latest wrongspeech charges. Knock on wood though, I rarely saw conflicts get resolved like this on YT in the past. Be it random chance, commenting format change, increasing commentor age, or a gradually maturing general attitude toward this thing - for some reason I come across more heated exchanges worth reading lately, as supposed to the standard verbal "king of the hill" contests that tend to go nowhere. Not to say there's not plenty of that around too. But still...
0 likes@Iama Sillygoose no idea what you're talking about
0 likes@PEATYxxjxxx
0 likesI agree. Meth(crank) is no joke. That stuff will fuck a person up. Maybe bath salts was involved. Both of them makes a person crazy. Weed and smack does not.
@PEATYxxjxxx probably because bicky boo is sneakin and geekin
0 likesnice
0 likesFine?? Where??? He is not cute what do ever!! Lol nooooo
0 likesOpioids mixed with love or the lack thereof are a deadly combination.
1 likeI've seen it firsthand many times, some people just break more than others.
Sad but true. Addicts shouldn't date each other.
Ted Bundy was also well liked, admired by women and thought of as a cool dude. Means nothing.
0 likes@hpallsauce Lee is a pretty short name too, not a really long name to feel the need to give a nickname for
0 likesIt’s the chilled, cool, calm and collected people that are plotting in silence.
0 likes@Matthew Chavez Was Lee an opioid user? He says himself he used different drugs to what Savannah used; and people here are saying he used meths not opioids? I don't see any evidence that Lee had a habit - he's not withdrawing in these clips.
0 likesPersonally, I think he is one of the many, many people who try blaming drugs for bad things they have done. Just like Michael Rafferty, the moron who killed a little girl. Opioids did not make him download child imagery and there are tens of millions of opioid users who would never do such a thing.
@꧁Mike Sully꧂ he said they would take pain pills together in the interrogation.
0 likesI doubt it...
0 likesThey often do🤷🏻♀️
0 likesYou worked at the restaurant?
0 likes@EweChoober no i agree, i think emotion is important to get empathy but she seemed a little too much
0 likesI don’t think he meant to kill her although they were in a altercation. Once he killed her he panicked and fucked up
0 likesPretty sad to lie on something so irrelevant
0 likes@hax i dont have anything to prove to you man. I worked with the damn guy.
0 likes@Bicky Boo uh...weed maybe, but let's not play around with meth like its such a harmless drug. Its meth dude 😶🤨😂😂
0 likes@EweChoober i think she was trying to come off as a contrast to the other detective and is trying to play the guilt trip also.
0 likes@EweChoober She really thought she was doing something! 🤦🏽♀️
0 likesI was Lee’s Siamese twin before the surgery.
0 likesHe seemed like a chilled dude.
@H D well it worked! l.personally just found her technique odd, but she got the job done. It that M.O. of annoying someone into a confession works, far be it for me to criticise!🤣
0 likes@jjarvo1 the old "good cop, bad cop routine!"
0 likes@kat454 hilarious!
0 likesWe ran out of cap. So you can have this : 🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩🎩
0 likes@Bicky Boo mmmmm debatable
0 likesits true. I was the fish.
0 likesDefinitely crazy. I worked with Lee briefly at bonefish grill and always seemed normal
0 likesSure you did
0 likes@EweChoober Imo, she tries to play off men's instinctual desire to protect women in stress and to be protectors.
0 likesI know you've done a couple, but I wish you would do some more of innocent people. It would be so interesting
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It makes me less depressed
9 likes@Amos W As long as they don't get falsely convicted. The happy endings give me a little hope for humanity.
7 likeshow do you guys even sympathize with this man when he started crying? he cursed at savannah, he questions his own stupidity, its clear he does not care one bit about savannah, he only cares about himself. just because he cries does not show that he regrets doing what he did. hes an insane man, he does not deserve your empathy and sympathy at all just for showing emotions.
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Hey now, don't give him the luxury of being insane. He isn't. This was blind rage followed by a methodical and forethought disposal of the body.
7 likes@elisabeth sherin serial??
0 likes@b m Woops! I wrote that when it was like 4 am, a bit too early for me to process words. Hes not a serial killer, but he is definitely a coldblooded killer for sure
1 likeSome folks ain't ever met a narcissist (personality trait, not NPD) before and it shows.
0 likesWe need to act empathetically with them so tht they co-op during the interrogation, okay 😊.
0 likesBecause if you force them at the start the investigation ain't gonna happen at all he'll refuse to talk itself, so thts why empathise to catch them in a trap 😊
0 likesI hope it helped a bit. Plus empathy is key to successful to therapeutic relationship
0 likesTotally not supporting the killer tho 😊
0 likespeople cant turn off their empathy. if they see another human being in pain, they will have pity. of course they know this man doesn't deserve it in the slightest. but again, it's not possible to turn off your empathy. i doubt anyone WANTS to feel pity for him. but it's a tragedy all around. a girl lost her life and two families lost a child.
0 likesGood looking men tend to get reactions like this from a lot of people, there needs to be a video series on that tbh. Murderous women don't get the same treatment. Even that Chris guy who murdered his two kids and wife had a literal fanclub and people writing him in jail that they wanted to marry him.
0 likes@Javie Milanez idk about the women part, but I agree that there should be a series of some sort about the phenomenon of killers having fan clubs. ted bundy is a big example.
0 likesThis interrogation was so well done. I’m impressed.
13 likesThe last scene was so emotional. I genuinely don’t know how to feel. This whole situation is so sad and could’ve been so easily avoided
18 likesA Florida man has been sentenced to 40 years in prison for the murder of missing woman Savannah Gold in 2017.
14 likesLee Rodarte Jr., 31, received his sentence
Just in case anyone was wondering if they sentenced him.
Whatever that female interrogator is being paid, it ain't enough.
26 likesI'm absolutely flabbergasted by her performance, she needs to get an Emmy holy sheeiitt 😶
3rd time I've watched this video since release. JCS is a true master of his craft. I'm also reminded, don't talk to the police, ever. Especially if you're guilty, but even if you're innocent.
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Seeing the announcement that JCS is no longer making vids for YouTube due to bogus YT graphic content warnings and reprimands is a tragedy and loss for everyone. His vids are the best and have gotten me really in to criminal psychology and interrogation.
1 likeThere’s no reason not to talk to police if you’re innocent
0 likesReally great channel. I just found this, and it's incredibly informative. Nice work.
3 likesThe worst thing about crimes like these (from my perspective) is the lack of explicit motivation, rather just a speculation of "that he didn't want Savannah to tell other people that they had been seeing each other because that would put his job as manager at the Bone Fish Grill in Jacksonville, Florida in jeopardy.". I hate murder, and murder without apparent or explained motivations drive me nuts. Money, "love", revenge, whatever - at least it's a motivation.
2 likesNice! I hope your other missing analysis videos will be back online as well soon!
4 likesDetective: where did y’all go? Where did you take her?
0 likesLee: well long long ago in a galaxy far far away..
Detective: WHERE DID YOU GO WITH HER!🤬🤬
Lee: Well, over the river and through the woods to grandmother’s house we go, the horse knows the way to carry the sleigh through the white and drifted snow…
Detective: good luck with that story dude.
It’s sickening to watch people accused of horrendous crimes sit there and start to cry once they realize the gig is up, and those emotions aren’t for the victim but for themselves once they put 2 + 2 together and get life as the answer. Do they honestly want someone to have sympathy for them yet they didn’t do the same for the person in which due to their actions became an innocent victim! Yeah, they can miss me with that BS. Hopefully her family found a bit of justice after he was found guilty and thrown away.💞🙏🏻😪
This was a man who couldn't handle the situation of a person who was getting used and bullied to submission and sadly it ended to a violent end to the victim and a slow silent caged end for the guy we could've said he was the victim if it ended with just a argument.
1 likeI went thru the same thing as him. Its rough. Thank fuck I never hurt anyone and can still live with myself. Dont do drugs. Seriously fucks up your life and makes you do evil things.
0 likesKind of sad how he tried to make something of his life so badly that he literally killed someone to try and save his job.
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@Briarcliv true
0 likesDrugs
0 likesIt's kinda gross that the story he took to court was that he accidentally killed her while trying to defend himself. Never mind that she struggled so hard that the car was visibly shaking and she kicked the door open 3 times. What a scumbag.
0 likesAh yes, I call this investigator duo "The Family Man" and "The Sympathetic Mother."
0 likesAnd despite his crimes, I kimd of feel bad for Lee... He seem to really love his job.
I actually found it very easy to watch his breakdown at the end 🤷♀️ even slightly satisfying. I say slightly because his breakdown was only because of what he was going to face not for what he had done, he even says "for someone that was a bitch to you" , so clearly he is not sorry for what he did to her. He spends all that time talking about how things are going to be for him!! What he was supposed to do with his life!!🤨🤨🤨.
1 likeNo sympathy at all for him from this side of the screen!!
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How much of his story was true though? That’s what I’d like to know. I’m not clear on his motivation for killing her. It’s a bummer we can’t see the moment of confession on video.
0 likesWith all the advanced technology and forensics we have nowadays, I will never understand why people murder and act like they can get away with it
3 likesThe way this narrator tells the story is like listening to a graphic novel
0 likesThe long initial response time is due to the fact that he took an adderall for the first time in many years.
1 likeHe literally admitted to taking one and then wouldn’t shut up after the first question. That had nothing to do with some psychological need to give a good answer. He’s tweaking. Lol.
Those officers are incredibly self-disciplined to let this scumbag just lie to their face for this long.
0 likesI don't know why I feel bad for him and got emotional when he was crying 🤦♀️🤦♀️. He definitely deserves his punishment. He made that choice. He must live with it. Pos.
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cause ur human, and u have empathy
0 likesThis should be a warning sign to EVERY single employer/Company! If your employee doesn't turn up! CONTACT THEN! you can't get through after trying for a while and several times + other contacts on the books! Contact the police to do a health check at their address!
3 likesLife is beautiful when you're crime free!
3 likesDetective: "How long have you known Samantha?"
9 likesLee: "The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. [beep] A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound. [ding] Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark, get ready, start."
Hearing him say "I don't know..." sounding like a infantile being caught doing something he shouldn't have sounded so fucking guilty.
6 likesDetective: "So how do you know Savannah?"
18 likesLee: "According to all known laws of aviation..."
the amount of time he took explaining how he knew savannah is so like obvious 😭 he did it lol
0 likeslooking at how the detectives are playing tf out of lee is even making ME nervous ahahahah they're so good at it its scary
0 likesIn the very beginning there’s something about the way the female detective ignores Lee and scrolls on her phone while he keeps glancing her way that is🔥
7 likes"it's probably not a great advertisement when a restaurant's head chef is picking their scabs on the job" JCS, my guy, you have a talent for entertainment
3 likesI wasn't even looking at the screen after starting the video, and hearing her name shocked the hell out of me. I looked up and saw her face, and still didn't want to believe it. Then I searched or the obituary, and it was all true. Savannah was one of my best friends in middle school. We lost touch after we left, and I didn't even know about any of this until I clicked on this video just now. It feels absolutely awful. I've always been bad at keeping up with my friends, even the ones I love like family, and it makes me wonder if things could have been different with just one more influence.
679 likesI didn't even know she was dead. Life is so fragile. Treasure the people you love while you have them.
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Sorry for your friend
44 likesSorry to hear that man.
28 likesThat's rough man. My condolences.
21 likesI’m so sorry... I’ll be praying for justice in Savannah’s case
9 likesAww, what a terrible shock :( You couldn't have done anything to stop this from happening. I'm sure you were a good friend, you were kids and lots of people lose touch. Be good to yourself.
38 likesChrist, dude, I’m sorry. I’m sure you weren’t a bad friend. Just goes to show you it’s worth checking in on those you love.
6 likesCringe
10 likes@Mr.GagReflex Your playlists, those channels you are subscribed and your music taste is way more cringy than this. Trust me.
51 likes@Graficando realidades tyler is likely a literal child based on his subs. Cut him some slack.
8 likesMy condolences. This needs to be pinned.
2 likesCrazy hope your doing okay lad
2 likes@tøxic. ♪ Lol 🤫
0 likesGake and fay
1 like@Graficando realidades hey don't say that, you might make him cry
1 like@Georgy Dunaev I can't speak for her habits at the time of this incident, but a few times while I knew her she mentioned smoking weed and we were close friends with another kid that infrequently did acid and kind of bragged about it (this was LaVilla in Jacksonville, some of the kids were pretty crazy). I'd never say that as a negative against Savannah in any way, she was a great friend and her habits never changed that.
4 likesAll of that to say, I wouldn't be surprised if she was doing recreational drugs but I highly doubt that she would let it get to self-destructive levels, at the very least not on her own. This may be my bias speaking, but specifically I don't believe that Lee was telling the truth about the heroin. I think he made that up to provide precedence for his alibi.
Sorry to hear this, but you can’t blame yourself, this man here, in this video, crying like an infant because he’s been busted, is to blame.
0 likesi'm sorry. your message shocked me.
0 likes@Graficando realidades you’re subscribed to that Minecraft cheater who couldn’t even play without cheating the system, if that ain’t cringe idk what is, kid.
0 likes@Wayward Vector You are replying to the wrong person
1 likeThank you for sharing that. Hope you’re well, and sorry for your loss.
0 likesomg I’m so sorry ❤️
0 likesWhen something like this happens we are usually haunted by "what ifs". "Maybe i could have done something to change what happened". Ofc, truthfully you probably could, anyone could if you think about it, but how where you supposed to know that? You could have done 1000 things that coincidentally ended up preventing someone's death without ever realizing any of it yourself.
1 likeI'm sorry for your loss and don't blame yourself buddy.
@Mr.GagReflex why lmao hahaha
0 likesLife isn't fragile. Life is indestructible. We are not our body. There is no such thing as death. 🌷
0 likesI mean don't get me wrong he's definitely guilty. But is it a huge red flag to anyone else when a DA doesn't release the primary confession?
3 likesBest Content Creator on YouTube. You kill it man!
2 likesI love this chanel, watched few vids in a row. Really appreciate how u narrate the responses & profiling
0 likesReal interrogations are much more dramatic than any films ever portrayed
0 likesWatching him talk to himself is like he’s reading the comments on his own video.
1 likei love just watching these while getting ready or trying to sleep. idk why but it happens and i only realize it when i finish the whole video lmao
0 likes“Mommy I’m going to spend my life in jail” 😭 Oh boo hoo you savagely killed her with no remorse! “I did something stupid “ Killing someone isn’t stupid like you stubbed your toe. He only cares about himself and that he got caught, the only truthful statement was “ Im a pos” at least he knows his place in the world 💯 BYE BYE SUKKA CRY BUBBA A RIVER 😭😂🤷♂️
1 likePSA ladies… if you be working in a restaurant, just steer clear of relationships with your coworkers, especially the kitchen staff. I’ve worked in many a restaurant and I’ve been getting the heebie-jeebies from men like this since I was 13 years old. BAD NEWS.
0 likesi couldnt watch through the parts where he was crying. i mean, i know he killed a girl, but it still makes me feel a little bad.
2 likesFor anyone intereted, the full confession is up on youtube now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU
1 likeImagine camera that 15 million people see through. Truly terrifying. Good that he didn't know
0 likesCrazy, the fact that he was apologizing to savannah but then later claimed in court it was self defense. He said she was nice to him
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He didn't claim self defense and pleaded guilty. I'm not sure why you think he did.
0 likesThe footage of him agonizing at the end is captivating
1 likeThem questioning him to his neck wound was such a good intervention.
0 likesMeanwhile me, who definitely has sel* h*rmed to the neck before thinking I should stop that if it looks that incriminating oof
Detective: How long have you known Savannah for?
1 likeLee: "She was a drug addict" and goes around it for 20 minutes.
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lol, arrest him already!
2 likesThey always interrogate you at night time. I guess its because it's to exhaust the suspect easily and no one has energy at the end of the day
0 likesI absolutely LOVE that lady inspector!!!
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@Kevbo how so
0 likesRodarte thought an outstanding traffic warrant got him cuffed and he never once asked for a lawyer.
0 likesI can't help feeling sorry for him crying just like that...
0 likesMaybee he felt the same way about killing poor girl, and not just about his not bright future.
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nah he got rid of her and went to work as if nothing had happened, you can't just fake it like that when you truly are sorry for your actions. If this ever happened to me I wouldn't get rid of the evidence if I were truly sorry.
0 likesNever talk without a lawyer, never kill people,
2 likesand
NEVER DO DRUGS
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Yes.
0 likesYes.
Cut me some slack.
Hahaha I can definitely tell he did an Adderall before he went to jail. The detectives were like JACKPOT 👍
0 likesThe amount of times I’ve watched this is astronomical. What a doofus
2 likesHe could have easily walked on that charge by simply giving a no comment interview. Those police telling lies is shocking
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Well, the bloke murdered someone. I feel like that supercedes the damage caused by some lies.
3 likesJCS WAS THE BEST!!! I will forever miss his content on here😥
1 likeDamn fine detective work, damn fine.
1 likeI don’t understand why most surveillance cameras are such low quality. Like “yes the big pixeley blob killed her”
2 likesEver notice how often criminals cry after they get caught but have no remorse for their victims.
0 likes23:42
0 likesif a family member of mine was missing, I’d rather know they’re dead than think that they’re suffering somewhere and I cant do anything about it
Wow you still see them human being. Well they are but I wouldn't refer to them as such. Either way your show is brilliant.
0 likesHe murdered her for fear of losing his job. Unbelievable
0 likesYou know the girl, when he went to the bathroom. Checked Facebook, saw a cat video, and crushed some candy. All in 3 mins. SPECTACULAR!!!
0 likesheartbreaking reaction of him at the end
0 likesA lot of people in this comment section are talking about how the lady cop needs to take acting classes and she's overwhelming and annoying. I think her emotional approach makes her very good at what she does. The killer had a supposed history of being a "ladies man," so I believe she adapted on the fly and pandered to his sensibilities by appearing emotionally invested. Law enforcement interrogators are notorious for using highly questionable strategies, but this lady just used simple emotional psychology to get the desired result. Hats off to her.
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No one bats an eye when a male detective gets hysterical, but as soon as a female detective does it, the reddit neckbeards magically spawn in full force.
198 likesAnd of course, it was pretty effective, which everyone is conveniently ignoring.
@Gonken88 If you look through some of the comments, it is. People are saying she's the reason why women shouldn't be cops, when she's the reason she gets him to speak. Mind games.... And she's very good at it.
82 likesMy favourite part is how the other detective seems to be well experienced with it, and his demeanor quickly changes to suit her more accepting approach. Pretty amazing how fast they can read each other's tactics like that
@Gonken88 I don't. That's literally what this channel is. Reading into the specific actions detectives take to get the response they want.
39 likes@Gonken88 I'm not sure you understand what entertainment is. Perhaps some of the entertainment you enjoy is mindless, but certainly not all of it is
17 likesYep! Agree one hundred percent my guy
2 likesI think it has less to do with her technical proficiency and more to do with the emotional response that it can elicit. I agree with the original point.
5 likesNope. I agree with the others. The female detective seems to be just plain annoying. Look at it this way. The accused man kidnapped and murdered a woman that he was dating off and on...and then lied to the police the very next day about EVERYTHING. Then, when he was taken into custody, he lied even more. The man is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR trying to save his own hide. Do you really think he cares at all about the woman he murdered in cold blood? As for being a so-called "ladies man"....guys like that often OBJECTIFY the many women that they have sex with. They see them as mere objects and not as human beings. The man is a total sociopath and has no idea to to be "emotionally invested" in someone's life. The female detective offered little to nothing in this interview. That male detective played it like a BOSS; he gave the man a proverbial shovel and allowed him to dig his own grave by rambling on with multiple LIES.
6 likesI guess it sped up the process of getting him charged, but it did rub me the wrong way at first.
2 likesI read it as she was pleading with him to remind him of how Savannah probably pleaded with him before he killed her, in order to make him relive the moment so it became more and more difficult to deny the truth. When you aren't very familiar with interrogation techniques its easy to misread what is going on. This is probably deliberate, in order to keep the suspect in a state of uncertainty, confusion and panic.
11 likesYes I think the male cop was able to apply pressure and the female cop was able to convince him to confess
2 likes@Gonken88 you know these cops are good at phycology right? They are doing these tactics on purpose. You just don’t know what you’re talking about lol
9 likes@Gonken88 I’m actually a physiology minor. And would I say he’s 100% right no but he’s sure as hell more right than you. These people are professionals and this is their job. They do everything for a purpose now shush and go talk about something you know about
4 likes@Gonken88 whoops autocorrect lol but yea I’ll trust you for any physics questions lol
0 likesYeah, she noticed he wasn't a psychopath. That he had probably committed a passional crime, and appealed for his feelings.
2 likes@Red Rum Wtf is this comment?
0 likes@Manatee Power 2
0 likesI didnt find a single comments that says she need to take acting classes... just yours.
0 likesYeah... Brian Blessed was a traditionally trained actor, and as epic as it would be to see him running an interrogation I'm not sure he'd get the job done like this lady did.
0 likesMale Interrogator : Where did you take her, Lee ?
Brian : ONWARD MY BRAVE HAWKMEN! LET THIS BE KNOWN FOREVER AS FLASH GORDAN'S DAY!
I mean... it worked, so you can just completely disregard any YouTube random commenting as if they knew how to do this kind of stuff.
0 likes@pagamenews You didn't watch the ending of the video, did you?
1 likeAlso nothing in this video suggests this dude is a pathological liar. Anyone in his situation would lie.
What qualifies you to judge the Detective's approach?
🐐 🐐 OG Channel that started it all. Praying for more videos soon!! 🙏🏾
0 likesAt least he knows what he's done.
1 likeVery sad situation for both.. In 5 years he will be instatutionilized selling dime bags of Coffoe for honey buns. I can't imagine that situation. Do the crime and pay in time.
0 likes"So how did you know Savannah?"
0 likes"Well, my mom was addicted to methamphetamine -"
There is something deeply satisfying about watching an evil effer get caught
0 likesdont know how they figured out he was 5'11 in that camera footage, i could only see 5.11 pixels of him.
1 like"The last time you wear a fucking chef coat" WOW! That's deep...
0 likesI wonder how the big mouth coworkers feel that they ran to tell him.
0 likesSuspect is now serving 40 years in prison.
0 likesIf this is anguishing to watch, i'm gonna be rich. i got like 50 moments in my life like this all within a few years
0 likesMore people talk their way into jail than talk their way out of it.
0 likesThe female detective was clever. It wasn’t just appealing to his human side. This is a man who loses his emotions with women. Her playing an overly feminine emotional role was meant to cause a reaction of loss of control in him. It’s ironic. People are so convinced women are overly emotional they are focused on her professionalism and losing her emotions in an interview. Come on. Use some common sense. She worked her way up to detective, spent years studying technique, and walked in with her partner with a game plan.
1382 likesThese sort of men lose it when women get emotional. When my ex had a knife against my throat I just looked at him like he was stupid and didn’t react. I stayed neutral. I got away by making him think I thought nothing of the situation and he’s been in jail ever since. These men can’t handle emotion. It makes them completely irrational. They will do anything to make it stop, whether kill or confess.
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Thank you! Saw several comments here criticizing her for being "hysterical"... but like... that's the point
187 likessuch a clever & insightful take on this tactic
75 likesCool story bro
33 likesThats how this works!
39 likesin movies it gets played down to good cop and bad cop
Use this conclusion to make your husband the sandwich he deserves.
27 likesDude im glad you're okay. A guy did that to me too
24 likes@Harvey Dent ???
33 likes@𝔎 🤣
1 like@Harvey Dent based
16 likesI agree
2 likesHi
1 likeFrom my outside perspective it was just annoying, seemed like she was trying too hard to make him emotional. Must've worked for him though
5 likes@Harvey Dent save your energy to go back to the garage where you belong so you can make us some cars or something
46 likesShe got this confession
2 likesYessss!
1 likeAgreed, almost all aspects of a police interrogation are HEAVILY scripted and controlled; I didn't believe for a second she'd "lost control of her emotions" lol. She's just excellent at her job.
31 likesHe deserves to stay in jail.
1 likeThat's what overly emotional men do. Find a laid back dude
1 like@ICryAllDayAllNight she hit him with the spongebob bait
2 likesmen in the comments proving you're right
17 likesThis is exactly what I was thinking!
2 likesYES. so many stupid comments here about her "unprofessionalism" that it hurts my head
12 likes@Jack Schoffman lol 69 alpha...
2 likesBeing overly emotional isn't dependant on sex. There's all sorts of emotionally unstable people
4 likesGlad to hear you escaped your crappy situation.
@Vasiliuu loll i aint even mad, that was a good one. Im just busting chops, i apologize if it was took offensively. Lol all peace luv and chicken grease.
5 likesShouldn’t be talking back
2 likes@Vasiliuu you showed him, didn't ya? (Sarcasm). Car fixed....now where's my sandwich! And bring some chips with it...after a hard day of fixing sh*t I need to relax with some food and YouTube.
4 likes@Dr. Bright would you believe me if I told you I made this account around 2007 2009? I was 15 to 17 at the time decades before the alpha beta chad soyboy memes came to be. If my bio is still up it reads like a cringe awkward teenager.
0 likes@Friendly Player ikr? These guys are just acting playing a role like regular cop and passionate cop
1 likeWe are overly emotional lol
0 likesShe was annoying
0 likesAll the boys who are getting triggered by this woman are exactly like Lee. They have a weakness for overly feminine women.
17 likesWow, what an insightful take that made me feel stupid for questioning how the female detective went about the investigation!
3 likesFeigning compliance or freezing does not guarantee you safety.
0 likesI was about to comment on the lack of expertise from the female detective, but this proves that I am a stupid dum-dumb. Thank you
4 likes@Harvey Dent damn bro. They'll hate you for that lol
2 likes@Aaron they dont call me Harvey Dent for Nothing baby 👹👺
2 likes@ItzToxic It wasn't really for your entertainment though, was it?
2 likes@Harvey Dent you’re gonna be alone your whole life
3 likes@lilflasheyc i actually got wife and kids 🤦♂️sorry to disappoint youuuu.
3 likes@I'm going to the border thank u, someone with humor lol.
3 likesThis is why men if they feel the need for a woman should hire a professional . You're not paying for the act. You're paying for them to leave.
0 likes@Harvey Dent Don't listen to the naysayers mate you're a legend
3 likesWhen you say "emotional", you mean anger, right? Well yes, men show and express more anger than women. after all, they are one of the few emotions they can show, although if we speak in general, women are more emotional than men and there is nothing wrong with that.
0 likes@chaheesun cherry picking?
0 likes@Dylan de Roo cherry picking?
0 likesInteresting perspective, thanks
0 likes@UCSQhGpBUnry8o9EfRrsIkqg No, I am not implying that.
0 likes@Alex D lol heck yeah 🥴😎
0 likesAlso can someone explain to me the "overly femenine emotional role" thing, i dont get it.
0 likesNotallmen
0 likes@Chris Race not one is saying all men.
0 likesDo you have to wear a face diaper in prison? I thought lockdown was a prison term. I guess we're considered prisoners because of Corona. At least obesity has been cured. 😷💩😷😵😷😱😷💩😷
0 likes@Xoire ?
0 likesAs soon as she started "getting emotional" I was like "Oh very clever." Interrogations are a play and the detectives are both actors and script writers. Their job is just to get the suspect to say their lines and they are very very well trained in how to do that.
3 likesI knew some people would have an issue with her fake crying, but like people lose sight that these people have trained for this. Also, her mentioning a daughter that age? Detectives try not to ever talk about their children, it can be dangerous. That was a big giveaway it was an act.
4 likes@SuperSmith_ based is such a stupid yet great term to let everyone know who you are as a person…
0 likes@Kingof Grim more like king of cringe
0 likesSorry that happened to you.
0 likesYes, obviously the woman detective was using a technique, people.
@Harvey Dent sorry that we didn’t take lightly to a joke you made about her husband literally trying to kill her. So sorry
0 likessure you did
0 likesHuh. When my ex girlfriend had a knife to my neck and it didn't phase me, she just stabbed me instead. She's not in jail, and was never arrested so massive dubski for me.
0 likes@Dior Linn (wouldn't have happened if she aint make him his favorite sandwich)
0 likesDétective " So tell me about you and Samantha"
1 likeLee " The Harry Potter saga . Book one . Harry Potter and the philosopher's stone....
Why don't people think of the consequences before they commit crimes 🤔 Its always after they get caught that they think.😫
0 likesThis interrogation reminds me of the song “Jenny was a friend of mine”
0 likesThat woman detective is quite annoying when she says, "I'm begging you...."
7 likesThat comment about the scabs at work thing.. hahaha JCS You slay me!
1 likeLee the Florida Genius just straight up talking about doing drugs with the chick he killed.
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I know Kori 😅😅😅
0 likesJudge Judy says…
0 likes“if they dry the water they’re guilty”
Lmao lee goes through 5 stages of grief at the last part its kind funny for me for some reason but i'm not saying i like seeing people goes tru that (im not a sadist).
0 likesThe female detective can kick rocks
0 likesThat boy killed for bone fish 🤣 could have went to the next damn restaurant and gotten a job
1 likeReally positive video Skippy. At this writing you have 15-million views. Keep it up so all criminals will know to invoke the 5th and never engage in a police interview. Its so good that you make it harder for police to bring charges against criminals. You're such a hero.
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This is maybe the funniest youtube comment ever
0 likesPlease do a video on Jacob stockdale
0 likesthe female detective was 100% there to annoy the suspect into a confession
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i think she believed Savannah was still alive and jsut tried to find her location
17 likes@juliano resuli Nah detectives never actually get that (visibly) emotional she was clearly just acting to make him feel ashamed of what he did and fess up
251 likesYeah well they managed to get a confession after 1 hour when the male detectives couldn't do that so clearly it worked
81 likes@Valerie Lefebvre ur reaching fem
7 likesShe damn sure annoyed me. Lol! I was like "why do they have her acting so stereotypical???"
50 likes@Ben Bluntx how is that reaching, it is literally in the video all three of us are watching right now lol
46 likes@Ben Bluntx grow up
49 likes@Rebecca speak from knowledge not emotion. Grow up
1 like@Ben Bluntx that doesn’t make sense
12 likes@Valerie Lefebvre it was a team effort doofus, they both got him to confess?
9 likes@Ben Bluntx Factually, it appears correct that she got a confession quicker this way.
9 likes@Ashwin Chatterji and it wasn’t good acting
1 like@Valerie Lefebvre nah that’s not how it works. she couldn’t have just walked in there and started crying right away it wouldn’t have worked. the guy was there for an hour manipulating him
6 likes@Andrew Payne Yes I know it was a team effort. But it was an act and it worked better than it did for the other videos
2 likes@i’m sad lol Yes I know. they were both manipulating him in calculated acts like they rehearsed this
5 likesThat Whiny Voice , so many American Women sound like that, Scraping Chalk on a Blackboard.
2 likes@Valerie Lefebvre how much more do you need to reach ?
0 likes@Lenzing Koyu How tf am I reaching? No one actually acts like that. It was annoying yes but not a genuine reaction
5 likes@Valerie Lefebvre who were the male detectives u are talking about ? And how many times was this dude interrogated? Koz as far as I know he was interrogated just "ONCE", the other time they just took statements.
0 likesi would have just confessed to make that horrible whining stop.
0 likesYeah, her technique of “literally begging for a confession” was certainly unique lol
1 likeWomen are good at this
2 likeshonestly respect to her, she knew what to do and did it perfectly
3 likes@Cow Man! And they rehearsed everything. Like non verbal signs and things like that. Impressive
2 likesLol
0 likes@Ben Bluntx Hes a simp for stating a fact? A fact that includes a women? Lol, what... is this misogyny, folks, or am i imagining things?
1 likeHer drama school teacher needs slap
0 likesLigit it’s her job have fun when y’all get killed or a friend dose and the killer gets away wt it
0 likesJust to be just as annoying I would’ve said I’ll confess if she leaves the room
0 likes13:33 look at the deep intake of air he takes here after the question
0 likesThese vids are amazing
1 like34:55 Well that's a bit of an understatement
1 likeI just... idk man. My brother is a really. Really angry dude. And the Kind that was born that way. When he was two he would rip the coloring book pages out and shove them in the base board heater and crank it up to start fires, which he only did bc matches, lighters, etc. had to be locked up bc he always set fires. Even once used a chair to get on a counter, on a microwave, onto a fridge to get matches out if the fridge cabinet. He was 6 years my senior and my sister was 3 years my senior, when I was just 3-4 months old I was sitting in a pile of leaves with my big sister and my brother came out and poured gas on them and my mom came out as he was trying to strike a match just in the nick of time. The last straw was when he put a rubber band around my neck and tied it to the car door handle when I was still only maybe 6 months. My mom was set to take him to a mental Institution bc she had tried everything else and my grandparents insisted he came to stay with them. There incredibly stern nature met with infinite time as a result of there already being retired and very well off made too much of a structure for even him to buck against, but in high school he was always a bully and was always a bully to my brother and I growing up, and plenty of other awful things to me that aren’t worth even mentioning. Plus my grandmother was really bi polar and constantly leveraged things he wanted to make him the kid she wanted, so by the end of high school he’d wrecked three cars two almost killing him (one of them he hit a house at over a hundred and shifted the foundation significantly, called my mom instead of 911 and she only found him bc of dim brake lights) and was starting to go off the rails. Went to jail for stealing out of cars at the college with my cousin, fast forward to today, my cousin spiraled and is off the map, my brother has his own company(he’s always been incredibly smart and specifically business savvy and people skills kinda smarts, ha great at working people like a wolf of Wall Street type character) makes a shit load of money but stays with an insane abuser who almost caused him an aneurysm a few months ago, whom he beats as well, and there kids are either neglected or beaten by both of them, I raised them for about 4 years while I worked in the same city but we had a bit of a falling out and now he won’t let me see them. I talk to the oldest one bc she was my name listed differently in her phone and she is an angel and probably a big reason why none of the other kids have died. I hope that child is given the world some day bc she’s deserves it after all the weight that’s been shoved on her shoulders since before her 6th birthday. He’s got a fuse in a way and is mean in a way and an angry drunk(and he drinks.. a. Lot.) in a way that just has me so on edge that he’s gonna snap one day.
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stay away from him and enjoy your life
0 likesI WANTED TO SEE A CONFESSION , rip Savannah
0 likesThe reason they cut the actual admission of guilt out is because he asked for a lawyer and they ignored his request and continued with the interrogation until he confessed completely.
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https://youtu.be/UudPVoO0kjU
0 likesFull interview
She is a good actor! Danm with her voice cracking!
0 likesThat women detective ruined all of the professionalism
1 likeWhy does it always seem to be the most moronic fools that think they are going to get away with murder ?
0 likesWOW! What an art form!
0 likesSo they kept their lead secret because they didn't want to hinder a potential future prosecution? Not because they were concerned it might hinder their ability to find and rescue her if she was still alive? I hope I'm misunderstanding.
0 likesHer little girl is Savanah's age? how old is this detective? She looks same age as the killer!
0 likes29:35 She really needs better acting lessons
0 likesonce more, damn is life easier if you just don't kill anyone
0 likesSeeing him cry at the end is just delicious.
0 likes"How long you know Savannah?"
0 likes"My mom was a drug addict"
I just know they'd think I'm guilty based on the fact I like to talk.
0 likesThe confession part has been released since
0 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU
Man talked himself into a suite at the Cross-Bar Hotel.
1 likeHearing him say "You could have told her to leave you alone." Tells me that Savannah did try to ruin him to the point that he did what he did.
3 likesWe all have people in our lives who won't leave us alone. Sometimes we think of ending them but we weren't in the same position and setting to do so and is still sane enough not to do so. This is just so sad seeing him realize that maybe if he had been more patient, he wouldn't lost his career and life.
Lesson learned: think before we act. Mind before emotion. :(
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are you trying to justify it? tf
2 likesI'd like to be able to see his face, his eyes, the pulse in his neck, the strain of trying to look in control, the jaw muscles clenching, the lips nervously twitching, the forgetting to breathe.......
0 likesNo, wait, hang on, what am I saying, shit....it all sounds a bit "voyeuristic" in a kind of, gleeful and nasty sort of a way, dunnit..
sorryI'll get my coat............
why would the state attorney refuse to publish it? Maybe the interrogators are using a secret psychological weapon?
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https://youtu.be/UudPVoO0kjU
0 likesFull interview
Giving big joe Goldberg vibes “she was nice to you”
0 likesFunny how they don't show the confession. Why not? What's the reason? Did they violate his rights ?
0 likesMake more videos!!
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Y ?
0 likesOff topic but with all this technology advancement why is it security cameras aren’t changing and they are always blurred and not clear
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Are u willing to increase ur taxes for it?
0 likesGlad to see this female detective had time to organize her busy social schedule on her hand held gadget before the interview started
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lol you are gonna be such an easy prey for these detectives. EVERYTHING that is going on in a interrogation room is a setup. They don't just randomly put anyone in that room. If someone is in there, they have a purpose. Even the furniture in there are put in to places with strategic advantages. In easy words, it's an act. And if you can't see through that even after watching the later part of the video, you should never talk to the cops. No one should talk to the cops before meeting their lawyers but especially you lol
0 likesThose pictures of Lee are the douchiest things I've ever seen in my life.
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I know KAR 😂😂😂
0 likesI hate to admit this, and I don’t mean this to be disrespectful to victims of murder, but watching someone lie through their teeth whilst everyone else around them knows the truth is weirdly fascinating. It’s just almost funny to see someone scramble for lies every sentence whilst having someone stare at them knowing the truth
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I know what you mean
10 likesHave you seen the other video on this channel, the "you talking to me guy"?
27 likesHe struggles for the entire video and it is cringe as hell
@Zion Simanian If you haven't already, you should take a course or two in criminal justice. I found myself seeing crimes/criminals in a whole different (and very fascinating) manner. You would probably really enjoy it! (make sure you take criminal law - also fascinating!
9 likesDeb Y appreciate the kind words and ya I’ve always been interested in criminal justice. Maybe it would be worth a shot I’ll have to see
1 likeif I were that guy I d probably also rather hope that people would believe everything I say. It s not that hard to convince somebody that you re believe him if that person is desperate. Like some child that wants chocolate and you tell him that you ll give it to him if he goes to dentist. Child will go to dentist if it s desperate enough for sweets just because you told him
0 likesZion Simanian I’m the opposite, I find it cringe to watch someone stumble around and try to come up with an excuse when the detective already knows everything
1 likeIt really makes you think if a good liar would get away with this stuff. I mean Radarte here certainly isn’t too bright. He sat alone for 90 minutes in a police interrogation room and didn’t bother to think about what he should say if they happened to bring up Savannah. If my neck had noticeable scratches, I would already have thought of a believable excuse.
2 likesHuge f'n LIE: "accidentally broke her neck, bc...fear for muh life,"
1 like@wsse 28 hahah same. some parts are interesting but other times i have to skip through because the second-hand embarrassment is too much
2 likes@Stephen Grigg Which video is that, I'm curious.
0 likesSo like whenever you a little kid lies?
0 likesRight. I got questioned before for a murder I honestly had no idea about. I went to work Monday through Friday and on the weekends played video games with my gf lol. They ended up finding the dude but what a day. I was Hella scared!
1 likesean watts oh man can you please tell me the whole story sounds so interesting what happen?
1 likeThat is not the Devil at work! IT IS A Human! All People should be aware of these type of being! A lot of brain but NO empathy!!!!!
0 likesCome back! No one makes videos like you!
0 likesA good example of why we should have a death penality.
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wouldn death penalty only let these people be free by not facing real life consequences and let them die?
0 likes15:01 a critical move by lee
0 likesThis dude f up so badly by talking to the cops that’s karma he was gonna pay anyway for what he did it was horrible !!!! But he should’ve keep his mouth shut taking to those interrogating officers put him down so fast !! Now he will think about it for the rest of his life so sad bro it couldn’t be avoided what was he was thinking why????? He doesn’t look like a bad bad kid just kinda stupid
0 likesHopefully death penalty was in place. I think all murder should death penalty. Has a result. It still would be a life sentence just a shorter time.
0 likesSoo.. “we all did drugs”
1 likeWow red flags 🚩
Life so much better when you don't kidnap and kill someone.
0 likesMan just submitted as soon as he was asked a simple question xD
0 likes35:44 predicts the feelings of every viewer
0 likesLeft there FOR 90 MINUTES? I'd die inside
0 likesWhy are these clowns waiting 90 minutes when every hour can be crucial to find her? Don't understand that.
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Cause they already knew he was the last person to have saw her. He drove off with her. Everything they do is calculated.
2 likesAll he had to say was they went for a ride to talk, argued, pulled over and kicked her out the car....the broke him start to finish in less then 1hr, bravo!
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There are lots of reasons why an innocent person will not feel confident giving short answers. The police want to convict. They are content to pursue innocent people if they can make a case. So a suspect could be apprehensive for good reason.
0 likesIf you're innocent, NEVER talk to police without a lawyer!
0 likesIn india , if we don't speak during the interrogation (thana), be it innocent or guilty, the police will trash you if ure a suspect..
0 likesYay it's back up :D
3 likesI think buddy coulda finessed his way outta that easily if he knows abt the video
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I say this bc it’s about what you can prove not what you know to be the truth
0 likesLEE! LEE!! F---ING TALK, LEE!!
2 likesLee:
im sorry, i am legally mute.
Make more vids bro
0 likesturns out he got to be something.. a prison shared hole :D
0 likesCan wear a chef coat in prison…maybe.
0 likesOhhhh… he’s in deep shit now and he knows it’s coming
0 likesSounds like someone’s got a case of the supposed to’s 38:38
0 likesDidn’t want lose his launchpad of a job at Bonefish Grill…. Ffs
3 likesThe lady investigator fked up the whole thing
0 likesbouncing leg is never a good sign
0 likesi somehow feel sorry for him
2 likesat least he admitted this fault and showed a human reaction
this means he made a (huge) mistake and isnt a cold blooded killer
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What? are we even watching the same video right now? he clearly has anger for savannah, he only cried for himself, he literally says it out loud.
0 likesTIL I'm the best suspect because I give lenghty responses to everything.
0 likesBecause I'm affraid of everything.
ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?!
Don't do drugs people... Last scene made me sad. Poor bastard. All because of drugs.
0 likesShould NOT have taken that Adderall lmao
0 likesWow. I’m boycotting Bonefish Grill until they implement a no murder policy
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And a no scabs in the kitchen policy 😬
247 likes@Dougie Haggerty It brings new meaning to the phrase, "making it from scratch". Eeeuw.
88 likesThat means they'll have to stop contributing to the murder of fish as well.
21 likes@Dairy Free Milky Way no it doesnt
29 likes@Dairy Free Milky Way you can’t even murder a fish 😂.
2 likesmanslaughter, too?
2 likes@Dreymon Green
10 likesNot a single microorganism has NEARLY as complex a brain as even the simplest fish....
@Dreymon Green 🤦
1 like@Austin Holm-McRae shhhh it’s was a good comment though
3 likesA young woman who had her entire life ahead of her was murdered. I feel like don’t is the perfect word to use in response to this comment.
1 likeIt should be boycotted for it's overpriced okayish food and criminally underpaid employees.
5 likes@Dairy Free Milky Way why are they booing you you’re right
2 likesYou joke, but this is literally how people who advocate for gun control think...
0 likes@kat Fish too yummy, will continue catching and eating =D
0 likesMe too. I'll go there 2 more times. 3 tops. But then I am done.
0 likesand no scab picking policy :)
0 likes@Dairy Free Milky Way lol
0 likes@Tzzz …
0 likesBone fish grill is way too expensive anyway and in Florida like shit theres better places to go to get good seafood 😋
3 likes@Tzzz What part of "Bonefish Grill" is supposed to sound appetizing
1 like@Dairy Free Milky Way All the fish killed by Bonefish Grill were deemed serial killers and were awaiting execution by the state so technically it's not murder
2 likes@Dairy Free Milky Way Bonefish Grill gets all its fish from the Florida State Penitentiary Firing Squad
1 like@CrazyMiles "How about YOU repent of Bonefish Grill's crazy low prices, Crazy Miles?"
2 likesJohn 3:17
@The Angry Arabian Oh, so a fish can't be murdered, but it can commit a murder? And you say there's no legal double standard?
0 likesI can accept the murder, but I draw the line at the manager picking his scabs in the kitchen tbh
0 likes@CrazyMiles Amen.
0 likes@LAVATORR factsz😭😭😭
0 likes@CrazyMiles hail Satan 🙏
1 likethats not funny
0 likes@CrazyMiles Do your best R. Budd Dwyer impression.
0 likesCome on. That’s just to far man.
1 likeThis is OUTRAGEOUS!!! . I WILL NEVER EAT at BoneGill again!!! I don’t like how I feel about this I , they will be punished for hiring such slimy ego filth. They, should have prevented this.
0 likesI TRUST MY FEELINGS OVER FACTS AND THIS JUST FEEEEEELS RIGHT. THERE I SAID IT!!!
and in this fast PASTE world I don’t have time or attention!
I got to generally got to look smart by feeling things out quick.
I don’t care about any of the facts or any of the other facts, boycott of BoneGill!!!
I could be a millennial so I like jumping onboard these sort of felt out things, I got to be part of something...but since contemplation, rezilience, compassion, health and integrity are becoming dead in some circles, I could be a lot of ages. And I am, anywhere from 16 to a stupefying 40 years old.
#FEELINGSRSOMUCHFASTERTHANFACTS
#BOYCOTTBONECHILL!
##EGOSMADEOFGLASSNPAPER
*no scabs 🤪🤮
2 likesLol
0 likes@CrazyMiles no
0 likes@Dairy Free Milky Way Nah
0 likes@M M Too bad humour is subjective
0 likesIt would require some telapathic ability to figure that out at the time they hired him. He seems as unassuming as any other frat bro tbh, probably a good worker too since he became manager
0 likesYall tripping, those bang bang shrimp go too hard 👌
0 likesI think every place has a no murder policy
0 likestbh i think of this sotry when i pass that place lol
0 likes@Austin Holm-McRae the point is "who fucking cares?"
0 likesWhat’s casual seafood, I’m UK and never heard of it.
0 likesThat’s racist.
0 likes@Ruth Todd I like that LMFAO good one
0 likesWhat has the company to do with this? This is so stupid🤦♂️😅
0 likes@Not Interested I wish I could say that's the grossest thing I've heard about the Bonefish Grill
0 likes@Awesome O thought it might apply to their clothing or attitude towards their job. Weekend only shellfish.
0 likes@Awesome O funny
0 likes@Awesome O Enlighten me, Is your name the Robot that Cartman. Becomes to play a trick on Butters ?
0 likesLmao.. Nice
0 likesI lived in Jacksonville when this happened and only lived a few miles from that bonefish grill. A lot of my friends actually knew Savannah and it was a shock to the entire community.
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My condolences
4 likesSame, it was such a weird time.
2 likesI can imagine. Ive lived in smaller towns where murders happened during my time there and yeah people start to talk and kind of look for suspects haha.
2 likesWas it a known fact she used drugs in the community like he says she did in this interview or not? Im just curios no mal intent.
I hope the bonefish grill is okay.
0 likesThat narrator voide is giving me heart attacks
0 likesBro he told everything off jump lol
0 likesCop: so how do you know her?
1364 likesThis guy: Well, it all started 13.8 billion years ago, when the universe expanded from a hot and dense state....
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reaALy? pf...
3 likesThen nearly fourteen billion years ago expansion started, wait
37 likesGood one
3 likes🤣🤣🤣
2 likesTell me more
5 likesLeaked interrogation of Neil deGrasse Tyson
9 likes@un lince cosmico "Then.... the earthbegantocool the autotrophsbegantodroolneaderthalsdevelopedtoolswebuilt a wall..."
9 likesDetective: "WE BUILT THE PYRAMIDS!!"
@Gerard Jayetileke Math, science, history, unraveling the mystery
8 likesOne non-Earth day a tiny dot that magically created itself floating in spaceless nothing rapidly expanded with the help of magical gravity from nothing...
0 likes@Kiwy. exe it all started with the Big Bang
6 likes🤣🤣🤣
0 likesright he started telling on himself then 😂😂😂😂, that was only the first question
0 likesShe's referring to the big bang theory tv show 😂
1 like@The Renegades lol so you think i didn’t get the reference
1 like@Eriana Thomas lol no I was just saying this in general not you specially 😂 idk why you thaught that
1 like😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes@killergoose since the dawn of man was really not that long
0 likes😂😂😂😂 I hate the internet...
0 likes@killergoose BANG!
4 likesAnd all this time i was assuming its "mad" science history unravelling the mystery 😃
1 likelol
0 likes@rwtlyk428 😂
0 likesthis guy seems to me, is crying over himselfe like he got cought stupidly, like he done this type of work before but clean...id bet on hem that he has done more murders of young girls....zhis one couldnt be first...
0 likesif he accsepted the oportunity like this, that means he was confident...u dont get confident from no wgere, u get it with experience....the meesed letters on messgs are the sing that he was overwhelming by the thing that he just done...allso the type of description of a boyfriend is the way he sees hemselfe....pure and clear psycho.....when he said that jail is gona kill hem, it ment that in jail noone will buy shit he sells, prisoners smell psychos on miles....this guy got hes sentence cheap, scum bag psycho rape killer, multiple i think...
Imagine some asking you how you know someone and you're like "well they did a lot of drugs and me too but not as much mr police."
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...I shouldn’t be laughing
45 likeslaylarenee me neither
2 likesIt was an attempt to establish the perception of honesty and cooperation. Idk what the technique might be called, but basically its "i have nothing to hide, and to prove it ill be honest about something illegal that ive done."
66 likesHidden Salami yeah it’s the whole thing where they’re like “oh if you’re truly innocent then you’ve got nothing to hide and should tell us everything because if you don’t then that’s suspicious,”
6 likes@Hidden Salami it seemed like he was also trying to make a flimsy attempt at character assination
16 likesLol " mr police "
3 likesLol
0 likesThe footage of Lee crying over dying in jail makes me so mad. The girl you killed didn't even have this. She ended up in fire pit like garbage, and you dare to feel sorry for yourself when your life is gonna be spared.
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Same
0 likesThe lady cop is terrifying. I'm scared, my dog is scared, like I really wanted to tell her where Savannah was and I felt guilty I didn't know.
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Right 😂😂😂
3 likesSameeee😂😂😂
2 likestelllll meeeeee telllll meeeeeeeee
6 likesNow I can't wait to get to that part! Lol
9 likes@Rafael Elh when I was a teen I realized the power the hysterical woman voice has over people... it's true, nobody likes it so they give you what you want just to make it stop 😂
15 likesI mean, I guess it worked, but she was no Tammy Lee. She scared the sh!t out of me, too, and I'm innocent. I wonder if I had the callousness to murder somebody if she would scare me or piss me off, but watching it, she came off way too aggressive and I probably would have been crying for my lawyer.
11 likes@PK 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@PK So true man, I own a jewellery shop here in India & some Indian women are so much into bargaining like they will spend 30-40 min arguing with you to lower the price despite being told multiple times to just leave don't buy from us.
4 likesWhen I was young I will just leave the counter & will ask some senior staff members to take control.
It was just too much, see this lady detective isn't even close to what I am saying.
@Rafael Elh I honestly think that was a conscious tactic from her.
1 like@A Beverage I agree that it was her tactic, and its hell of an annoying one, I'm pretty sure it works for her
0 likesHer part was SO FUCKING BAD!
1 likeScary? Absolutly not. Annoying? YES, OF COURSE!
2 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes🇩🇪😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🇩🇪 Same
0 likes@Anony Mouse kommst aus Deutschland? Lass ma treffen.
0 likesJa, komme ich. Und nein, 😂 glücklich vergeben.
1 likeomg same here !!!
0 likesnever expected to see this in comments lol
1 likeAt 35:55 I got an ad for "Smile direct club." 🤣
0 likesYou know you’re screwed when the detective walks into the interrogation with a bowtie on
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time to call your bolo wearing lawyer...
6 likesLooks like we got a renegade detective over here.
6 likesIt takes a particular kind of confidence to wear a bow tie.
16 likesYes.
You're screwed.
Icecream Headache lmao 😂
1 likeSNG 777 exactly!!!!!
2 likesPoo.
0 likesThats a confidence I havent seen in a looooong time.
2 likesIt seems to be a Southern thing. I've seen a lot of episodes of FIRST 48 from Tulsa, Oklahoma and one of the detectives wears a bowtie.
1 likeClassic! haha. I noticed the bowtie too.
0 likesLmao I said this out loud. I was like oh wow, he means business!
0 likesTaylor it’s Florida...
0 likesOk, I did it! I did get it!
0 likesWait, no. I'm just watching a video. Phew.
I can't believe that even after inflicting wounds to 75% of her body and burning her in a burn pit, he has the audacity to say, "fucking Savannah" after confessing. Like he's blaming her. No words.
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He didn't really blame her if you watch to the end
45 likesThat's your projections on a highly scattered thought process
47 likes@Robert Joseph wtf is wrong with you???????? grow up
34 likes@Robert Joseph Interesting take. Do you also think all defence lawyers belong in prison?
43 likesshe was probably always getting him into trouble. I've had girlfriends like that... never killed any though.
7 likes@JeffSayYes im not sure why you think that, but even if thats true then break up with her! Not kill her
16 likesI'd imagine the wounds to 75% of the body, were due to burning her body. He probably strangled her and in the process of trying to remove the evidence, attempted to burn her remains. Preventing the coroner from being able to accurately asses the cause of death. There is no way he had the ability to burn a human body in his back yard. Not with out filling the neighborhood with the smell of burning flesh for hours. He failed at that, then dumped her in a body of water.
11 likesThey all did drugs.
3 likesAnd all hung out
Except he wasn’t blaming her. Weird how you are unable to view a clear cut situation so inaccurately
2 likes@Colleen Whitman on camera no less
0 likesHe is not blaming her, but the way he cries at the end, it does look like more rage against himself doing it and being caught rather than being really sorry. If he wasn't caught, would he have lived all his life with the remorse or wouldn't even mind it ?
6 likesDetective: “How did you and Savannah meet?”
2138 likesLee: “I did many illegal drugs”
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😭😭😭
6 likespapas got a brand new bag !
6 likesHahahaha!
2 likes“I did them with her too- not the same drugs she did all the time”- ummmmm
17 likes😂😂😂😂🙏🏾
1 like@Jules Asher - It was BYOD.
7 likesI was waiting for him to talk about his previous murders or rspe or something... what the fuck
5 likes😂😂😂 "seeking approval"?
0 likes@Kwasi Shade maybe his reasoning was that admitting to lesser crimes would make him appear as honest and forthcoming? 🤔
1 likeAnyone else discover this channel via MandaloreGaming's video on Anonymous Agony? No? Just me?
0 likesFemale detective is getting way too emo..
0 likesThis was really difficult to watch. I was almost killed by a boyfriend, so it brought up a lot of emotion. He only did 70 days, "misdemeanor assault of a female". The only reason I am alive to type this is because, as I felt the fight leave my body as everything started to go black and the instant I accepted 'this is where I die' I somehow managed to calm myself down enough to just go limp. 'this is your only chance to live through this, girl' played through my head. So I did and it worked.
320 likesI'll be hugely fucked up for the rest of my life. 70. Fucking. DAYS.
Why?
He lawyered up and never said a damn thing. Gross, but noteworthy.
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💕💕💕✊🏽 you’re tough! Happy u got thru it
31 likes@Jelly Honey aw thanks for that. It was so hard. Then to feel so betrayed by the police and judicial system was borderline unbearable. I am very fortunate to have an amazing mother who was able to make it possible for me to get out and come home to her for some healing time, rather than living in a domestic violence shelter and changing my name.
49 likesLina Leo I understand about being betrayed by the system and you’re so brave to tell your story to them and again here 💕 much love you way!
11 likesLina Leo I’m sorry for what happened to u, and that the justice system failed u
9 likes@Daniel Sokolov thank you. I just want to say I didn't tell a little bit about what happened to me for any other reason than to point out that the courts and law enforcement don't always do the right thing. I am a real person and example of that.
19 likesI didn't even mention the part where I had to call 911 for a previous incident screaming and crying and begging for him to leave because he was attacking me...and I got arrested by the very people I called for help. The obvious older wounds/bruises/scratches demanding attention on my legs were disregarded. The bleeding wound on my face was what got him arrested as well. He bit me, and I had the imprint on my arm, lady cop spends a solid 3 minutes trying to get a solid picture of it but couldn't. She acknowledged it, she saw it with her own eyes...I get brought to jail and tell them what he did. '...he even bit me on my arm, I have a bite wound on my arm...' lady cop says no you don't, there's no bite mark.
This is a very real and completely true thing I went through. You just cannot assume what will transpire when law enforcement gets involved in your life. Victim, witness, or suspect it doesn't matter. They don't know you and often only see you at your very worst. It's so complicated.
Note - I was never convicted, the case against me was dropped after he was arrested the second time.
Hope one day you will find peace and love with your next significant other whenever you're ready. Im sorry to hear this! You're not a survivor YOURE A WARRIOR
10 likes@Lina Leo I feel you. Hope you can find peace of mind some day <3 Please, bear in mind that it's very brave to tell such story, you are a fighter! Lots of love!!!
6 likesSo sorry this happened to you. You are right, law enforcement gets a whole lot wrong because they consist of fallen human beings susceptible to corruption just like the rest of us. I even have to disagree with some of the analysis in these videos. Basically whenever the commentator says, 'an innocent person would say or react like this instead of this' . I've seen how corrupt some cops can be, so if I were being accused of something I'd be well aware of that and would probably over explain things like supposedly only guilty people would. I'd know I'm not there just to have a friendly chat, no matter how nice they acted. I mean the tactics are obviously great and all for breaking truly guilty people, but the same tactics used on the innocent is another thing entirely. This channel needs to realize many good people are scared shitless of cops because the power has gone to many of their heads, which could make them appear as having something to hide.
7 likesAlso, I don't mean to get all preachy on anyone, but I just wanted to say how Jesus has pulled me through so much. His judgement is the only one you can know is absolutely right. So while men may have failed us when we needed them most, God will bring true account to all, law enforcement included, when the time is right. Don't rely on anyone but him because man will always come up short.
Lina Leo You are so beyond strong for living through that. I wish nothing but for you to find happiness and love in life. You deserve it.
4 likesWhat did he do to you? (u don’t have to reply if it makes u uncomfortable) sorry for ur experience
1 likeSo why did you search for this kind of video ??
0 likes@Bonheur-septsix I didn't search for it. Anyways true crime isn't necessarily always about boyfriends killing girlfriends. Also, sometimes you have to make yourself uncomfortable/do hard things in order to heal and grow.
9 likes@MEKH1-CH1 too much. Just too much.
5 likesGosh that sounds so terrible I am so sorry for you, I couldn't imagine. That's almost as terrible as faking a story of terrible subject matter that ruins lives for attention.
2 likes@Gray almost as terrible? I was held captive for three month. Years of memories are just gone because of repeated blows to the head and possible damage to my brain from the first second and third strangulations blocking oxygen from going to my brain. I am so fortunate to have not only lived but also to not have to learn to talk, walk, and read
9 likesI had an ex who severely beat me 9 times then stalked me, kicked my door in and assaulted my friends boyfriend and got no jail time at all and also got an award from the mayor for the community service he did to look good for sentencing. He owns a business in a small stupid town so it scares me to think of what else he could get away with. The code name for me to say at work if he shows up and is bothering me is “summers eve” because we couldn’t use douche. I’m so sorry. Thank you for sharing. I’ve almost told mine many times and have always deleted it until a few days ago because people on the internet can be so cruel. My favorite: why didn’t you just leave? As if he wasn’t super manipulative and made sure I was dependent on him so it wasn’t like I could walk right out the first time.
6 likesGray people like you are the reason people are afraid to say anything like this on the internet. I hope you never have to endure anything like that because abuse that severe really fucks with ones head and self esteem and changes people’s lives and outlooks and ability to trust completely.
9 likesi'm sorry! hope you're doing well!
3 likes@shazamantha bruh men get away with way too much, its fucking crazy
2 likesSounds to me that your boyfriend needs to pass some teeth after they were punched down his throat.
2 likeshey! i'm so incredibly proud of you! sharing this couldn't have been easy <3 i'm so so so happy you're still on this planet living and breathing :^) i'm so sorry that the justice system completely failed you :/
2 likesI am so sorry you had to go through that
1 like@shazamantha I'm am so sorry for your pain. It's a different pain, like scar tissue on your soul. I don't get upset anymore when people don't get it, because really if they haven't gone through it, how are they to know? It's an unimaginable experience. I hope you are on your way to healing as best you can. Counseling helps, medication is sometimes needed, do not feel weak or broken if that's what you need. You take care of you and rely on your support system.
1 likeBless you and thanks for sharing
1 likeI am so deeply sorry that you went through this. But, you are still here. You are incredibly strong. Thank you for sharing your story.
2 likesur so incredibly strong, i don’t know you but i am so proud of you 🥺💚💚
2 likesСтранно Хрипы ya I’m with ya, she’s saying this shit for attention
0 likesLina Leo ya i doubt that. Good job trying to be a one upper
0 likesWhy make up stories?
0 likeskang jinha x go siwon 2020 feminist. Very original
0 likesDamn, you hella fiending for those thumbs ups and feels.
0 likes@Charles & Drusilla Keenan a one upper? The poor girl from the video WAS killed. This whole thread is so interesting to me; the things people will say when they don't have to look you in your eyes. I already explained why I posted it here, basically to say lawyer up. I know there are many hundreds of people who have been abused and sat in court alone and watched the guilty party not get punished or get a lesser charge. It's hard and it hurts. I mean I could list here everything he did, all of the court documents, my restraining order; but no, fuck that. I don't have to justify my own abuse. I don't hate all men now nor do I have an abusive partner.
0 likesI really want people to think and go inward and examine why so much hate rolls around in there. Maybe it's not hate maybe it's vulnerability because more and more women are coming to the surface and sharing their truth.
I am done with this thread completely now ( unless you need help, then leave a comment and we will go from there).
I want to end with thanking you all even you hate spewing naysayers. I grew from this and that's the goal, right? To love and be loved, and to never stop growing, learning, and changing.
Remember everyone never speak without an attorney present. Unless you actually committed the crime(s). In which case: Hell yeah man you got this you can outsmart those dumb cops for sure.
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more like... remember everyone always speak to an investigator WITHOUT an attorney if, deep down your heart, you know you killed someone 😄👍
29 likesExactly, just completely downplay everything and have unnaturally calm reactions to serious accusations!
9 likesNot only that, they literally tell him “you can be quiet and not answer to any of these questions” and then he admits of killing her 🤣🤣🤣
7 likesahahaha
0 likesadmit nothing .
0 likesTotally!
0 likesHahah well said
1 likeIf anyone is curious, his defense team claimed last minute it was self defense and savannah attacked him while high on heroin and the trial has been delayed a few times, now it should take place in January 12 2021, very soon!
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Thanks for the info 😁
23 likesGood info! However she tried to leave three times and he shut the door on her, haha. Not exactly "self defense" at that point
100 likesWhat? Self Defense my a**. That door swinging open 3 times with it being immediately shut doesn't seem like self defense to me?. What is that 5 ft 1 girl over powering him 3 separate times.. even if it was(which we all know it wasn't).. why get out.. and slash her tires? Lol. Nothing more I hate than a 'they obviously did it but we gotta reach' case that drags on.
72 likesSaw this comment before i finished the video and now i’m sad the trial hasn’t happened yet yikessss hate cases that have not been resolved yet :/ hopefully the ‘self defense’ argument won’t hold in court considering the evidence
21 likesI’ve seen a lot of people on the nod and I never saw one attack somebody. Seen some fucked up stuff, but never an attack.
10 likes@Little Miss ibonaut good job.
16 likesty for the update!
1 like@Francisco d’Anconia cheers mate 👍
4 likes@The Spy i guess he claimed he was the one trying to escape lol
3 likesAlmost lol
0 likes@Little Miss ibonaut congrats on getting clean!
8 likes@Little Miss ibonaut congrats. Keep up the good work!
8 likes@Francisco d’Anconia I’ve done lots of F n H and it’s like literally IMPOSSIBLE to attack while nodding lol idk how he thinks his argument will hold in court
6 likes@Scringus Boof Yea heroine isn't the drug he should have chose, Meth would be more believable
1 like@Travis Tarp fr tho
0 likes@Scringus Boof yep. Hey if you’re clean now, good job, keep it up. If you’re not you are not alone. Get a phone and call for help. The world wants you back.
3 likes@Francisco d’Anconia been clean for months at this point
4 likes@Francisco d’Anconia shit just made me waste away
0 likes@Little Miss ibonaut it really bothers me that your response was over 10 characters
5 likes@serchizm 😁😁
1 likeuff i hope he gets punished soon
0 likesyeah if he had already broken her neck then what was all the times the door swung open and he even went to slash her tire for some reason
2 likesTHATS MY FUCKING 18TH BIRTHDAY WHAT THE FUCK IMMA WATCH A FUCKING TRIAL ON MY BIRTHDAY BITCHESSSS
3 likes@Little Miss ibonaut still time yet that’s the honeymoon period over tho
0 likesin a week!
1 like@Scringus Boof totally agree with you mate.
0 likesYuh that’s my birthday 😤
0 likes😮😮😮😮
0 likesThanks
0 likesOmg thats tomorrow
2 likes@Jin Lee hunny wtf, where r u from? Is already 12/01/22 where r u?
2 likesOne more day
2 likesthat’s tomorrow!
2 likesJesus that is soon
1 likeAlso to be fair for the guys argument he could just say the door opening and closing was either him trying to get her to leave or him trying to leave. I am not saying it wasn’t her, but those options are on the table with his Alibi
0 likesTomorrow??
0 likesOh shit, it's 01:00 A.M January 12th. I just discovered this video.
2 likesGuess I'll search the news later or tomorrow, maybe I'll find something
It should be a airtight case. They have an admission of guilt, evidence of him lying to the police multiple times, undeniable property damage, the car door, a deliberate disposal of the body to hide evidence, and the sheer physical difference between them. She likely couldn't have been a threat to him whatsoever, especially since we know for sure that he had a knife on him, and he even said that she was on heroin, something that makes a person much more passive. There's also a crystal clear motive, and the breakdown he had here pretty clearly shows that her killing was intentional. If this isn't death sentence, then it should be life with no chance at parole, no alternatives.
3 likesIt's today people
1 likeOh shit, I'm watching on Jan 12
3 likesThat’s today!
1 likeHey that's today!
1 likeaye today is the day
0 likesTODAY
0 likesWow, what luck! I just found this vid today.
1 likeAny updates?
3 likesIt says all of this at the end of the video
0 likes@Little Miss ibonaut congrats!
1 like👀
0 likesCan't believe he got off on self defence!!! So shocking wow
1 like@Ceejay 100%
0 likesWhat happened guys? Update me.
1 likeThanks so much for taking the time to tell us !!! Stay Safe!
0 likesFemale detective is again making it about her...dont.waste our time.
0 likesThere was a glimmer of humanity, no matter how broken it had become. I was hoping that at least one of JCS's videos would end this way. It's... almost relieving to see someone tell the truth and show emotion- NEVERMIND HE PLEADED NOT GUILTY
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He has since pleaded guilty. I think there was some humanity there, which I didn't see until he said "I'm so sorry, Savannah". That felt genuine.
37 likesIt's standard practice to plead not guilty during pre-trial court proceedings.
18 likesMY EXACT REACTION. I WAS LIKE "wow he actually has remorse and reason." He's looking back at his life. He had dreams and goals and morals. Ope. Nope jackass. But I wonder if that was his lawyer telling him to say that.
16 likesIt comes off as acting for the camera to me. People don't usually talk to themselves like that when they are alone.
15 likes@RazMatazz i do
21 likes@Seda Vesi Yeah I said "usually". There's weirdos everywhere.
0 likes@RazMatazz Well I don't take too kindly to your words Sir. Not too kindly indeed.
22 likes@RazMatazz Well what if this guy was a wierdo
0 likes@RazMatazz the person there is going to jail and his emotional status is in the peak so we can't think about the usual when we are talking about him. He will be thinking about a lot of stuffs at the same time. So the most probable case is that he isn't acting but there's still chance he might be but only he knows that and we shouldn't speculate about it since we don't know it.
7 likes@Seda Vesi it was genuine because if he even spoke to his lawyer he would kno not to speak at all
1 like@RazMatazz it isn't acting.
0 likesThey have some of ppl being falsely accused so it’s not all bad 🤷🏽♀️
0 likes@RazMatazz There's really nothing that weird in talking to yourself. Tons of us do it. And if you're in an extreme emotional state you'd be surprised what comes out of your mouth alone or not, and normal for you or not.
2 likesYou can tell from the animalistic sounds he makes that it isn't staged. You can just feel that it's genuine emotion. Whether that's remorse or just feeling sorry for himself is another matter.
@Kristoffer Stalsberg nah he was sorry he got caught, not sorry he killed her
0 likes“A couple T pain pills”
0 likes"He was known for his charm and charisma amongst his colleagues, and also had a lot of success when it came to the opposite sex."
741 likesMy brain absolutely refuses to believe that.
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Probably don’t get out much then, a good amount of women tend to be drawn to people like this guy
92 likes@AbstractTraitorHero yikes
66 likes@AbstractTraitorHero LMAO SUSS????
12 likes@Robbie Cervantes Kek
7 likesHave you ever worked in the restaurant industry? I've met 10 of these guys. If you have access to drugs and are decent looking you will have a ton of "success"
49 likesWalmart brand tool lol
3 likesCharme is appreciated in jail
4 likesI believe it to be honest. From the photos he looks like he has a larger than life personality
7 likes@AbstractTraitorHero what a life
1 like@Silky smooth2000 What do you mean friendo?
2 likes@Jeff Mellow To some extent probably
1 likemy first thought when i heard that was " yeah probably because he kidnapped all the women he's been with"
3 likesIndeed, that background research they did in his circle, evidently had not much to do with reality.. Just a junkie simpleton, probably surrounded by such. Charisma? Mitsubishi?
1 likeNo joke! Bc he is absolutely cringey.
1 like@Melissa Brown lmao the one time I visit this video and you comment about a minute after I open these replies. Coincidences, I tell ya
1 likeSuperficial charm and promiscuity are both aspects of the psychopathic personality.
2 likes@hipsting hey buddy it’s so easy to bash someone when they do something wrong but I’m confident that he was indeed popular and charming lad. You’d be surprised how many criminals aren’t just ugly,socially conservative dudes who lived a horrible life. Plenty of good looking rich folks behind bars albeit how long they remain is a
2 likesDifferent story due to the court system and lawyers.
Your comment sounds ridiculously jealous and someone who thinks all bullies are ugly losers when reality could not be more different. Be careful judging based on looks. Just because they’re pretty or charming doesn’t mean they’re innocent.
Yeah, his charm and charisma proved handy when making those beautiful pieces of art, those... "collages"...
2 likes@AbstractTraitorHero she goes “I’m happy I’ll never be in a relationship” lol. So long as your happy :)
0 likes@AbstractTraitorHero Sounds like you're aromantic. If so, then welcome to the club bud.
0 likesI think they're mistaking charisma and charm with being the boss and having access to drugs.
0 likes@Gary Clark III no. Way.
0 likesIts Jacksonville FL
2 likesIt’s the jaw, son. The jaw.
0 likesLOL We don't rehearse "multiple times" before an interview. LMFAO now you're just making stuff up.
0 likesWhat I find especially unsettling about all this is the guy was so close to being a normal successful human. I'm 100% certain I would never kill anyone but I doubt this guy thought he would either. I don't know something about that just scares me
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Well, it should. That’s why these stories are so riveting. Pinky swear: we don’t kill others.
50 likes@Drew Yeah but he's not a sociopath with obvious personality disorders like a lot of killers we see. I suppose that's not particularly un-ordinary but I just wonder if this guy would have ever killed anyone and became a successful member of society if he never met Savannah. Don't mistake my curiosity for sympathy though.
82 likes@VicVinegar one murderer stated that there are 2 types of murderers "those who feel too much and don't know how to handle it, or those who don't feel at all" this was clearly a crime of passion.
90 likesEverything has a price.
1 likePeople who are capable of killing someone typically showcase traits in their life that could put that small seed of possibility within them.
5 likes@BreathofFreshAir
25 likesEvery human is capable of killing another human if put in a certain situation
@tomaa al mbark thats not accurate at all. Where every human CAN physically kill another person many humans (even if in a life or death situation) would not kill. Every person has a variety of responses and some people freeze upon a desth situation requiring them to kill. It takes a lot for someone to even kill in defense
12 likes@BreathofFreshAir
5 likesit’s the matter of whether they fail while trying to or get overpowered you said freeze as an example if they given time to process the shock and the situation they would fight too unless they given up on life and that’s another whole thing
you either kill to save your life or someone else’s if there’s no other way to prevent harm it’s just instinct that’s in everyone a mother might not kill for herself but she would for her kid
@Trevor Jones that’s what all drug addicts say. It’s a way to explain away their behavior . Just don’t do drugs.
1 like@Cheerios for honkies Drugs have nothing to do with what he said
3 likes@Cakelinky this guy admitted to taking aderall before the interrogation that day! So run that by me one more time. OF COURSE drugs have everything to do with what he’s saying. He’s an addict. Pill junkie. I’d bet $ most murderers are drugged out at some point. I’ve heard actual junkies say they “feel too much”. Very similar statements made to the one mentioned above . It’s excusing away their behavior. They don’t “feel” any more deeply than the rest of us. It’s their damaged brains talking.
2 likesits amazing how easy some people check out.
0 likesthats why analog is coming back in a big way
0 likes@BreathofFreshAir here's the thing. Talking about it is theory. One must be in a death to death fight in order to really know there true GRIT. Though I would say, if you're winning a fight and you stop as soon as you can see the other person is helpless, then you don't have a killer instinct...
1 like@Trevor Jones This wasnt a crime of passion Einstein.... pay attention of what you are watching, this video gave u the reason of why he killed her, the girl were about to reveal everything about their relationship, as a manager he could have been fired bcuz of that plus he was in an another relashionship, it seems that the girl probably blackmailed him into staying with her or something that leaded to the discussion in the parking lot then he snapped, it seems that this guy could did everything to kept his place as a chef manager, look how he cherished his coat saying that this is the last time he will have to wear a chef coat, hes just a cretin, he used his place to fornicate with coworkers but that turned badly at him when one girl decided to not let him getting away with it... poor girl tho.
4 likes@siu ken you literally described a crime of passion. He’s “passionate” about his job, he was scared he was gonna lose it. If it’s not a crime of passion it’s premeditated murder which would mean he meticulously planned out her killing beforehand, which I highly doubt given how this went down
13 likes@Derek Raynaud smh lol wtf you are talking about, a crime of passion is a crime derived from a relationship not from any kind of passion, and i highly doubt that he premedited the crime otherwise the scene couldnt had happened in the middle of the street as he killed that girl in his fuking car, so like i said earlier he snapped, he killed that girl out of pure rage..
1 like@siu ken a crime of passion means a crime in the heat of the moment. Those are the only two options. It was either in the heat of the moment (which it was, its a crime of passion) or it was a premeditated murder. Also he could’ve planned to do it in his car, but he very obviously didn’t plan anything lmao
6 likes@Derek Raynaud Well i just checked the english def of crime of passion (crime passionel in french) and ive to say that english langage is very weird, its regrouping every kind of crime that happens suddently which is false, a "crime passionnel" from the french ppl it only derived from lovely relationship or jalousy.... so you werent wrong since the def in english is totally false.
1 like@siu ken ahhh I gotcha, that totally makes sense. And yes, as a native speaker, especially in regards to law, the English language is weird.
2 likes@Derek Raynaud eh eh lol its all good. 👍🏽
0 likesRelated to drugs no one is being normal
0 likes@tomaa al mbark I don’t think so
0 likesIt's the realization that anyone is capable of evil. Knowing that, however, means that you can keep a close eye on what you and I and everyone could become, if circumstances were different, and walk the path of good instead of evil.
1 like@Roddy Piper's Irritated Corneas Absolutley. Couldn't have said it better myself
0 likesthat's exactly what I think at times when I watch these type of videos.
1 likeIt's what makes these stories so interesting and dark. But for the grace of whatever is out there, we could be him. Its something that's under the surface in all of us in some ways. And also why we are drawn to it, to maybe help us understand that unreachable dark part of ourselves and try to rectify that with our own self image.
1 like@tomaa al mbark as self defense yes . Cold blooded murder no
0 likesSuccess at speed comes at others' expense. Sociopathy is good for both getting ahead in life quickly and killing people.
1 like@Tyler F of course but the subject was the capability of every human to kill another not the reason behind it or the situation he’s in
1 like@Cheerios for honkies Yes everyone feels the exact same way as you. Also people who have depression just need to stop being sad and be happy. People who are fat should just stop eating. All of our neuro chemistry and life experience is exactly the same.
0 likesAs emotions operate you, as a clue, being outside the normal range is causing abnormal function. It can help to know that. Do you know someone who is that way?
0 likes@Mikeymurpo yes and drugs change that chemistry. Which was my point from the beginning
0 likes@Cheerios for honkies you're incredibly wrong to the point you have to be joking or very young.
0 likes@Cheerios for honkies under what circumstances do you deal with them daily? Because you're talking complete nonsense. My first comment was sarcasm. I was just seeing if you'd agree with it.
0 likes@nutzeeer One of my friend's was locked up with Raymond Clark, the man that killed Annie Le at Yale and stuffed her body into the wall at the university. He was/is just like the guy in this video, normal, decent job, no clear signs of anything being off. And then when Annie was going to expose their affair, to both of their significant others he snapped in the heat of the moment and killed her.
0 likesOther than that moment, where he snapped, he is basically a normal every day guy.
I noticed that affairs lead to a lot of irrational murders. And more times than not, it's the person who is cheating that committees the murder.
That gets me all the time. I bet most of them never planned on it but just snapped one day
0 likes@Connor Shaw Exactly. It's like the theory about putting a frog in a pot of water and then heating it up slowly to a boil. The frog doesn't realize the water is heating up until it is too late. These people have slowly gotten caught up in bad situations for themselves. Then one more thing, pushes them over the edge and they snap in the moment.
1 likeI wonder if the women were saying things purposefully to push the killers buttons, or not. Said things by accident to push their buttons. Or said nothing, and it was too late as soon as she got in the car.
normal people don't put their hands on someone else's neck...
0 likessuccessful lol he was a cook at Bone Fish
1 like@ChaseTrill you probably don't even have a job
0 likes@ChaseTrill haha yeah having worked in a kitchen I've definitely seen dudes exactly like this which is why it hits home for me
0 likes@Sapphiregriffin I don't think murdering your ex lover for spreading rumours is normal either
0 likes@Connor Shaw makes you wonder what kind of shit lies dormant in people until they snap. I think the same kinda thing watching those Hoarder shows because they were usuallly mostly normal before some traumatic event and now they are coo-coo bananas.
1 like@ChaseTrill this guy really hates the food industry
0 likesIt’s extremely shocking and sad that she was being attacked in a car in broad daylight, and no one saw it, the cars were parked fairly close to the restaurant too. She thrashed so much you could see the car shake through the security cam, yet not a single person noticed something was wrong? I can’t believe that’s how it went down, if at least one person saw the struggle maybe Savannah would still be here.
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you know what's shocking? i got attacked INSIDE store once, and i yelled as loud as i could (i knew my fiance, his parents, and a woman were standing up front) and NO ONE heard me. the store wasn't even that big. that was the moment i learned that it's naive to think you're safe just because you're inside a store, with other people around.
12 likesI wish i was Ther
0 likesQuestion is how brutal and graphic was the deed and confession that it couldn't be released? Scary stuff..
3 likesI was attacked in that same type of environment, with my purse snatched, and no witnesses during the early afternoon
0 likesI want to know how he is the manager of the place and doesn't even know that there is a surveillance camera in the parking lot
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You seem to think that being a manager this day and age means that you're somehow more competent than the staff itself or people around you. That's not how it works. All you need to be promoted to manager is to have a good track record in your current employment aka. no sick leaves, no fights, showing up on time, do extra shifts, and have a good attitude towards your bosses and for the current staff to like you to a degree aka. have no big issues with them. You need to be relatable and do as you're told that's all, basically any normal decent human. You don't actually need deep skills. By the way it's a fish grill .. you don't even need qualifications. Maybe a recommendation letter if I'm honest.
75 likes@Robert Fierce you wouldn't have to be even close to competent. You could be late everyday, or in fact it could be your first day . If you are in charge of the building ( a manager) a server or even janitorial staff how would you not notice cameras and probably a monitor in the very office you do paperwork in.
33 likesStupid is as stupid does
6 likesI think the restaurant he worked at was in a plaza. So I don’t think he was over the camera system. He’s a complete idiot manager or not for committing a crime on camera.
12 likes@Amy Usray ty for that .... I didn't think about that.
4 likesit was from a atm machine at the bank in the plaza if she basically would have parked any where else they wouldnt have seen here i worked there at the time of this.
10 likes@Donald Fletcher well first of all my condolences to your coworker I'm sure that was hard for all of you guys. But that explains a whole lot thank you for telling me that.
5 likes@Robert Fierce a recommendation letter to work at a restaurant? You’re crazy - lmao 😂
3 likesBecause owners may not want it known so it can't be tampered with by Employees.
3 likes@DorkyPorky Doodles yeah thank you but that's not it. It was from the ATM across the street it wasn't even their camera
3 likes@Robert Fierce found the low level worker.
0 likesI don't think he planned to kill her then and there I think he panicked and snapped, killing her out of anger without even thinking how easy it was for someone or cameras to see him.
2 likes@Asma that is very true you're probably right about that
1 like@Khaled Salad that's what I was trying to explain man thank you. He's not going to work for the Pentagon
0 likesFacts 😂
0 likes@Rusty Shackleford When I worked at Wendy's for over a year, there were no signs of any monitor showing a camera feed at any time. Camera feeds were probably handled by a security firm. Cameras are often designed to be a little inconspicuous, I don't recall seeing any outside the building, though there undoubtedly were. I'm kind of oblivious to that kind of thing, though, and its possible this murderous cretin in the video was, too.
1 like@Donald Fletcher Good point. That would further explain things.
0 likesAnd as Rusty said, condolences.
1 likeHe assumed there were no cameras, because no one mentioned him adding herb de scab to the lobster bisque.
2 likesWould likely say that it was a chain of restaurants and surveillance camera were owned by the landowner. But also, maybe he's just that of an idiot.
0 likes@DCOM 20 simple explanation but nevertheless true im sure.
0 likeshe is a heroin user most users only think about heroin and money thats all they think about, forget about a camera
0 likes@EP true proffesional wearing his uniform during a murder lol
0 likesam pretty sure he's crazy he was talking to himself.
0 likesLee is a very bad Liar... My cat would be able to tell he was lying...... if he told that story to my cat, 🐈⬛
0 likesSo being a detective = 50% actually being a detective + 50% acting.
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These are criminal psychologists not forensic detectives
91 likes@Norman Jackson why does he keep referring to them as detectives then??
27 likesI would be 50% a good detective I'm an amazing actor
7 likes@Anas Yousof In most American police departments, Detective is just a rank. There can be many detectives that do completely different investigation jobs. The narrator probably just calls them all detectives because it’s assumed they are one.
83 likes@Anas Yousof still a detective just a different kind
13 likes@Norman Jackson that's new information for me lol
7 likesHonestly every job is 50% that job and 50% watching talking and listening
10 likesLike any other office job.
2 likes50% poor acting
4 likesThat female was so unbelievable I was wincing. 😂
You mean terrible acting
2 likesLike what did you expect happened during interrogations?
8 likesDetectives come in and sit down
Detective 1: (Stares down suspect in silence for half an hour) Did you do it? 🤨
Suspect: No
Detective 2: Are you sure you didn't do it? 🧐
Suspect: Yes
(Detectives look at each other and angrily exit the room)
Detective 1: SHIT! (kicks water cooler) WE GOT NOTHING ON THIS GUY 😡
Detective 2: (shaking head in disbelief) Yeah. This asshole is good. I guess we gotta let him go and hope he feels guilty enough to do the right thing.
Detective 1: (takes off shoe and sits on floor to pout) I think my toe is broken 😔
That's an infinite loop
0 likesMore like playing 5d chess
0 likesproffessional beat around the busher
0 likesI know a detective, he said a lot of it is theatre, the other bit is actual investogatio
0 likesRIP Savannah
1 likeHas the JCS team considered doing an analysis of a convicted innocent person? It'd have to be a case where evidence came to surface after the conviction that without reasonable doubt proved their innocence.
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@Theo1 holtzclaw? He is guilty as sin. Come on.
1 likeTheo1 holtzclaw was 1000000 percent guilty.
1 likeI'm always impressed by how detectives are able to back someone into a corner by asking the right questions the right way.
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Same bro, same.
0 likesThese videos have made me realize how much I want to be a detective
4 likes@Bricky River that's how they get you
1 likebe one then
0 likesThat end part where Lee was by himself was fascinating
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Was like watching Gollum precious
76 likesI think he has schizophrenic prblm
18 likesAlmost makes you feel sorry for him. Almost.
103 likesYeah, Ive never seen a video like that before. Extreme emotions on display
52 likesIt was literally like the angel and devil versions of himself were talking to him!
64 likesThe fact hes blaming her
32 likesHe knows he’s f$&Ked. It’s good
25 likesYou felt sorry for him didn't you? Yes you did, be honest.
18 likesWhen it was said it wouldnt be easy to watch i got worried he was gonna go all out and whack his head against the wall and it just be gross so i was sort of holding my phone away from me. But it was super interesting watching him just crumble and realise hes going to prison and he cant get out of it now.
22 likes@Mister Master no quite the opposite. It was gratifying and I want more 🤗
20 likesI honestly don't think it's normal to fully feel bad for him or find it entertaining and funny it's a bit of both
6 likes@myadorablefosters I laughed the entire time he cried .
10 likes@I. Wynn Wynn Savannah *
4 likes@SPROJO not yet it's not death we should fear it's the judgment day. Eternal hell fire. That should be Anyone's greatest fear.
3 likes@Mister Master it's like feeling sorry for Judas. Yes I can feel it. But it t seems wrong to pity the damned. We will reap what we sow. "As you have done to the least of these my brothers you did it to me!!!"
3 likes@heyysimone so so sad. He ruined his life and cut off that beautiful young thing from hers. I count the falling tears as they fall before my eyes. The man will have them tattoo on his face down both sides before his time is come.
4 likesSPOILERS! lmfao
1 likeReminds me of Leonardo DiCaprio in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood when he's talking to himself and crying in his trailer
3 likes"You're a fucking miserable drunk" hahaha
@Specules Gorgoth Yeah, not allowing the public to see possible police misconduct during an interrogation. Sounds great
11 likes@Specules Gorgoth what is hell fire
1 like@Mohaimenul Islam Why do you say that? Curious.
0 likesCzena Petra get off your high horse
2 likesI used to be friends with someone who acted like that. He would lose his mind in fits of rage in public. I think its what happens when a man has anger/control issues.
3 likes@Fish I'm just wondering what kind of criminals are you talking about like anyone who still is doing bad things and haven't changed anything in there life or do you mean by anyone who has ever gotten in trouble in general? I can say that honestly I've been able to change my life around I've done 4 and a half months in jail for a DUI and probation violation and I also had a possession charge but I'm now clean and working I was lucky I didn't get a felony charge in my life but I know that I could have very easily. But I don't agree with murder I really don't know what can make someone else take a life from someone else for nothing or any rapest.
2 likesZombite Gaming right?! Oh my god. It in a way makes you feel sympathetic but for half a second! If! He must have known he was recorded. Battling his inner demons or whatever the term is. Horrible crime. Horrible person. I hope this man gets the full punishment for his actions
0 likesHes just a psychopath killer.
0 likesThose are popular and allowed these days
I don't understand why people use the word "fascinating"
0 likes@S
1 likeDid you ever have a job where you were supposed to do something one way but you found a shortcut that saved time and money? This interrogation saved lives. How long before he got spooked and ran? Did it to someone else along the way? Or killed himself before his victims family found justice?
They knew he was guilty of being with her. A confession is the safest thing to try to obtain from a guilty party.
The way they brought him in was shady as fuck though. How do you just pull someone in for questioning about a murder when you said it was old traffic tickets? Why couldnt they have just asked him to come talk about savannah?
Mohaimenul Islam thats is really what is was thinking. It was interesting that he was continually having a conversation between himself and not a simple exchange and thought process, putting blame on others and making it seem like a different side of him almost like and outside source pushed him to that decision.
0 likes@MissLovely42 I don't know what comment of mine you're referring to, as the only one i left was in response to someone saying these videos shouldn't be made public..
0 likesIt's not fascinating. It's pathetic.
0 likes@Specules Gorgoth Outta here with your indoctrinated nonsense. Why fear the inevitable anyway?
0 likesWatching Lee break down when he realized his life was over is the cleanest, best pleasure.
0 likesHe wasn't by himself. He was with his demons. He was literally having a converstion with one. Sad AF really. Guy actually had some remorse. Not defending him just saying the whole situation is sad. Shitty upbringing, drugs, toxic relationships. RIP Savanah.
0 likesInterrogator: So, how long do you know Savannah?
1545 likesLee: puffs on a cigarette Savannah? I haven't heard that name in years
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THIS IS THE BEST ONE😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 YOU ARE A LEGEND🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
23 likesBruh you got me dead, you're next on the channel 😆
5 likes@Aaron Yogurt takes out cigarette Unless... his entire plan was to avoid being caught!
1 likeSometime later: Savannah? I haven’t heard that name since Wednesday
5 likesomfg classic 😂😂😂
2 likesThis hits right.
2 likesSounds like trump...he doesnt know anyone "according to him" who blamed him for his BS and foul way off being....
0 likes(Sociopaths be like)
😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesDetective: "So, how did you know Savannah?"
1836 likesLee: "Hold on, let me grab the novel I wrote about it..."
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LOL
7 likesLoooool!! Guilty son of a gun
29 likesHe tries to smear her character as a druggy and all the detective ask was “how did you meet her?
Dead giveaway right outta the gate
5 likesK L well she did do drugs but not that it matters in the context of him killing her
0 likesImagine what an interrogation with Ted Mosby would be like
0 likesAs someone who used to work at a bonefish in Florida and do drugs and sleep with other employees, it’s not a bad way to get through college as long as you don’t kill them
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Correction: as long as you dont get CAUGHT killing them
26 likesthat's not true , WE HAVE PROOF .
28 likesare you gonna tell us where that body is , Austin ???
@iosofin well she took perc once in high school
32 likes😂🤣 good luck Austin!
3 likesHa
0 likestrue that
0 likesAustin Kennedy Uhh what is wrong with you?!
3 likesI wish this guy would post more, I could binge watch hours of this.
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NoodlesDuhh check out his Patreon! He upload very frequently there!
14 likesJoseph Poore yeah I only just noticed😅 thanks though. I’m considering it aha
5 likesThe patreon is worth the dollar there’s more videos!
8 likesIt's worth a dollar!
4 likes@*Noir Maria* it cost a fucking $1 lol 😂
2 likesI'm on his Patreon. Lots of content there. Don't be like me, though, and binge watch everything. You'll end up right were you started: desperate, and wanting more.
7 likes@Danny Rosero: Yes, but wanting more is the meaning of life, isn't it? :)
1 like@Jo-Erlend Schinstad touche
0 likesBut... Every video he makes means another is person dead. Doesn't it?
0 likesI'm subbed to his patreon and his videos are great but to say he uploads "very frequently" is total bullshit. He is probably one of the least frequently uploading youtubers I've ever subbed to on youtube.
0 likesJoseph Poore do you know if I can subscribe to his patreon in the UK? I’ve never used Patreon before so I’m unsure
1 like@Joseph P. I really really love his content but in all honesty he doesnt post much to his patreon at all. Despite this, it's still the best dollar I spend monthly. 🤷♀️
0 likesDetective: How long have you known her?
713 likesLee: Call me Ishmael. Some years ago—never mind how long precisely—having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people’s hats off—then, I account it high time tozz get to sea as soon as I can. This is my substitute for pistol and ball. With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship. There is nothing surprising in this. If they but knew it, almost all men in their degree, some time or other, cherish very nearly the same feelings towards the ocean with me.
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Shayne Topp is that you?
6 likes@David my immediate thought 💀
2 likes😂
1 likei cried laughing
2 likesStill not long enough. This was like a paragraph in the novel he recited.
5 likesLMAO
0 likesThis is a really interesting story. You should finish writing it for real! Like I don’t know what time period this is taking place in but based on the verbose prose and dialogues I would say it’s most likely during the whaling days so I’d imagine these journeys in which you take leave to the seas it would be for the purpose of whaling being that whales provided so much in those days for merchants of all kinds. I just wonder where you could go with it to make it engrossing. Perhaps you become fixated on some object or being that consumes you. Like a whale. And then maybe it swallows you whole and you end up in the belly of the beast. While there you find that your nose grows when you lie and a friend you’ve made along the way, maybe something like a cricket, helps you escape.
2 likesI don’t know but you’ve definitely got something here.
@AxelSpott I have no idea if you're being genuine or not 😂😂😂 I was about to correct you and say it's from Moby Dick but then I asked myself "wait how does he automatically know it's about whaling from the language alone? Is he in on the joke?" and then you summarized the story of Pinocchio and now I'm confused again. Thank you for the unintentional brain twister 😔😔😔
0 likesInterrogator: "How do you know Savannah?"
1782 likesLee: "...and so we did drugs together and then she brought heroin, did I mention we had rough childhoods?"
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Bro, he immediately told them they did drugs like no innocent person would ever fucking say that, unless they're a blabbermouth
54 likes@Gabriel Malek or if they have something worse to hide and doing heroin is somehow the better than the thing you're hiding
23 likes@Chase I’ve worked at a lot of restaurants and usually there the ones doing coke because it’s a fast paced job you can’t be nodding out on h serving food lol suspicious
4 likes@Mommy Bat ive known ppl tryna do h and work and they usually got fired unless.... the managers were doing it too lmao
0 likes@Stephen Roberts I worked at a tilted kilt for quite some time I have seen some shit lol every job I’ve worked at my atleast one or multiple co workers were doing some sort of drug. Drugs don’t discriminate. And I’ve worked as a caretaker all the way to a server a barista a waitress and toys are us and party city lol
2 likes@Stephen Roberts but some people hide it very well. I’ve known several heroin addicts who had jobs paid there bills etc there works never knew. I’m never gonna judge someone for the shit they do in there own time I mind my own fuckin buisness. Everyone’s got some kind of vice or Demons. Addicts aren’t bad people.
1 like@Gabriel Malek Bruh what? No shit he's not innocent, taking prescription meds without a prescription means your'e guilt in America. But you've definitely never been arrested if you think admitting your'e on drugs is not normal.
0 likes@Mommy Bat Some? You have worked with hundreds if not thousands. Almost all heroin addicts hold a full time job. And usually actually gain some weight
0 likes@Gabriel Malek ye he says that as if its normal and not as bad as other stuff (murder)
0 likesYes, yes, a multitude of rough childhoods. He actually time travelled but each time it just got rougher and rougher
1 like@Everything13ish I live in Indiana just outside Chicago. I’m well aware heroin addicts can keep up a full time job. I WAS a heroin addict. Most of the chick I was locked up with were heroin addicts. There’s a lot of people who can keep up the facade but it never can last forever. Shit always hits the fan at some point. Some people can ride the wave for a ahwile some can’t. I’d see chicks at my dope dealers constantly just sickly looking sleeping with men for drugs. I’m never going to judge someone’s struggle. I don’t wish the pain I’ve been through on anyone. I even lived in my car at a point. But living that life waking up sick every day chasing dope it’s not something that can last everyone hits there rock bottom. Trust me I know how big the opioid epidemic is. I’ve watched a lot of people I love die. I was simply stating about how drugs don’t discriminate your co worker your doctor the check out girl at the grocery store. Anyone who sells drugs will tell you all kinds of people do it.
0 likes“How long did you know her??”
3157 likesHim: “idk she started using drugs though”
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lmaooo
5 likesWhat is your name?
44 likesIDK but let me tell you that she was doing heroin and um... Yeah I don't know where she is
@Gusrobang4 GT jcs is right he told us that when a suspect goes on and on and on he is trying to convince detectives of his innocence. And he is not.
3 likeshe took an adderall, so that kinda scuffs everything
2 likes@Donut dude he's rambling because he is guilty not add. If he had add he would most likely go off-topic and start talking about other stuff. but if you don't have ADD and you want to convince the police you continue talking about the same subject for 5 or ten minutes. Add people can't concentrate on the same subject for this long. Figure it out
6 likes@Sviolinist I think donut dude is talking about adderall, and you're talking about ADHD...
1 like@Enjoin TheGood add means attention deficit disorder which ironically Adderall is prescribed for sometimes
2 likesLOOL
1 likeLmfaooo
0 likesLadies beware. These chumps be a dime a dozen.
0 likesDetective: “So how long have you known Savannah?"
871 likesLee: "The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it. It began with the forging of the Great Rings. Three were given to the Elves, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. Seven to the Dwarf-Lords, great miners and craftsmen of the mountain halls. And nine, nine rings were gifted to the race of Men, who above all else desire power. For within these rings was bound the strength and the will to govern each race. But they were all of them deceived, for another ring was made. Deep in the land of Mordor, in the Fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged a master ring, and into this ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.
One ring to rule them all.
One by one, the free lands of Middle-Earth fell to the power of the Ring, but there were some who resisted. A last alliance of men and elves marched against the armies of Mordor, and on the very slopes of Mount Doom, they fought for the freedom of Middle-Earth. Victory was near, but the power of the ring could not be undone. It was in this moment, when all hope had faded, that Isildur, son of the king, took up his father’s sword.
Sauron, enemy of the free peoples of Middle-Earth, was defeated. The Ring passed to Isildur, who had this one chance to destroy evil forever, but the hearts of men are easily corrupted. And the ring of power has a will of its own. It betrayed Isildur, to his death..."
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7 likes@ABS BOXING TV And I read all of it, and then wished I was reading the script of the entire movie.
27 likesMan I'm wishing I could watch that..... 🤓 in me!!
0 likesTruly, thank you for this 🤣🙌🙌🙌
0 likeslmao this is too perfect
0 likes....or, at least he thought he was dead.....but he woke up and realized it was all jyst a dream.
2 likes😂👍
0 likesIs that Scientology?
0 likesMy guy actually quoted the Lord of the Rings haha.
1 likeHahahaha😂😂😂😂
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
0 likeshis low quality face reminds me of one of the dalton brothers from lucky luke
0 likesI've watched this video a lot and each time, I wonder why he went on this diatribe about doing drugs after being asked 'how do you know Savannah?' I only realised now that it was because he wanted to smear her name as a heroin addict to give himself more credibility
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Yes, he was trashing her and thought he was making himself look good.
25 likesWait a minute. So the whole drug thing was fabricated? She didnt do any drugs???
7 likes@SacrosanctExplicator she had no drugs in her system during the autopsy
34 likesHe was just trying to give them a reason as to why Savannah would be missing that wouldn't involve him. He's just too dumb to do it with subtlety.
21 likesI highly suspect he himself was on drugs when it happened, hence the nonsensical text messages after it happened.
6 likes@Szymon Gorczynski true! it also explains his regret after confessing...i think he was high af on something and got paranoid she would say at work they're together so they argued, maybe fought and he killed her in a rage attack
1 like"So stupid!". He talks to himself like he cheated on someone, not like he murdered, burned and threw away another human being like she was trash.
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Exactly! With wounds to 75 percent of her body!! He is a monster.
35 likes@Black Skellington he isn't that bad
2 likes@ItssaLyssa96 The Irony is real.
1 like@Fee Vee What was he supposed to say instead? What would be worthy of murder?
5 likes@Black Skellington ...no, you need 80% wounds or above to be classified a monster.
8 likesPlaying with a corpse just goes with the territory. After the murder it is all about self preservation.
5 likes@Manu Shapopi Lmao its funny how you have a defensive attitude towards this. Don't even know what to tell you, I feel stupid for forgetting to take out the trash, I really hope I never find out what it feels like killing someone. I probably wouldn't call myself stupid though.
8 likesLol, so you don't know what he should say instead, but what he said was wrong. Sound logic👏🏽👏🏽. You're real smart😂.
2 likes@Manu Shapopi never claimed to be smart, but on the other hand I'm not defending a murderer so at least I have that.
13 likesClearly he only gave a shit about how it affected himself. He murdered someone.
6 likesHis mommy must be proud 😂
0 likes@Manu Shapopi what irony are you talkin bout?
1 likeHow do you talk to yourself after murdering someone?
0 likes@K C only he knows..
0 likesK C I think she was dumping him????
0 likes@Manu Shapopi I agree with you. It is obvious that the decisions we make, especially the quick ones, based on our past experiences. Most, if not all, abusers were abused. The victim in one case can become the accused in the next. It's not fair to just say that "he is a monster" and therefore he deserves what happens. I hate what he did, and in no way justify it, but it is possible to feel compassion for both the victim and the accused in all cases. No one, at birth, would choose to lead an unhappy, monstrous life. We would all like to live happy, healthy, moral lives but we do not all get the chance to learn how to do so. I am not saying that he should be given the chance to do this again, but rather that we should focus on the lifetime of events which lead to these horrible ones, and in doing so help avoid them. Calling him a monster is a cheap way to offer condolences to the victim - it does nothing to help anyone, it just makes us feel that we are not that same as the monster. No, we are just lucky to be someone else.
0 likes@Fee V. It is possible to feel more than one emotion about a situation. If someone steals food from a store to feed their family because they truly have no other way to do so, but in doing so takes the food off of someone else's table, would you simply hate them and call them a monster? I would hope not. These situations are complicated. Choosing to hate murderers and defend victims is the easy way - lets you feel moral for a minute. It doesn't help anyone and anyone with sense knows you are only doing it to show off. We all know murder is bad, lol. Manu never said murder is ok, just that critiquing him saying "stupid!" is silly. Obviously, Rodarte feels it was stupid, and it was indeed stupid. He comes across as self-centred, but also less self-centred than most murderers and more introspective than you.
0 likesOnly crying because he got caught.
0 likesDetective: "How did you know savannah?"
1699 likesLee: "Well, in order to tell that story i'll have to take you back to the day I was born."
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Lee: I mean i dont know. it was a million years ago
46 likesThis comment is the funniest thing ever
5 likes@John Dough HAHAHAHA geeez
12 likesJodi Arias will take you to the Neolithic era just to tell you she loves the Ten Commandments, puppies and her totes not jelly relationship with Travis.
14 likes@John Dough Under rated comment. LMAO
1 like@fieryelf i hope people would get it lol
2 likes😂😂
2 likes@John Dough lmaoo not a Stephanie Lazarus reference
6 likes@Irrelevance yessir 😂 geez
3 likesBaba O'Riley starts playing
0 likes"Woah woah,see that guy right there?"
"Looks like he’s hit rock bottom."
"Well that guy is actually me."
"Now I bet you’re wondering how I got into this wacky situation."
"It all started in the summer of ‘86.”
😂😂
0 likesWhy did I read that in the wonder years narrator voice
0 likesNever laughed this loud 😀😀😀
0 likesPicture it, Sicily 19- -
0 likesi swear it took him like 10 mins to go through it all i’m half asleep now ffs
0 likesLove your humour....Brilliant...Another stupid one is when people ask "Hows your day been.. So I start at the part where I woke up...
0 likes@Adam Henry this comment is just facts lololol
1 likeIt breaks my heart how the female detective is acting so much like a caring mother as if it’s her daughter that’s missing…
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it’s to make the guy feel more guilty and emotional about killing savannah
15 likes@MangoRQ Yes.Any battle between emotion and reason the emotion wins.Having the female police officer in the interrogation room with great voice inflection and emotion in her voice helped in breaking the murderer down.
4 likesI don’t think I originally realized what a fantastic job these investigators did. This would be a very difficult case to prosecute without a confession
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I agree. They more than likely recognized this and knew they had to push him to it
3 likesThis is the most emotional I’ve felt in comparison to other videos.. I got goosebumps and started to cry when the narrator explained his confession… that’s horrible.. poor poor girl..and her family. RIP Savannah..
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Okay
2 likesAs someone who’s struggled with depression, tragedy, and anger issues I’ve been in bridge burning situations before. None of the actions were murder though and future outcome wasn’t as final is 40 years in prison. Still I can at least get an idea of how Lee was feeling. Although I’ve done stupid things myself I can at least say they my actions were redeemable and that I’m trying to fix things right now.
66 likesWatching someone cry over their own actions and seeing self pity is nauseating. Where were the tears for killing her.
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I personally feel like it was somewhat satisfying. If that were my family member, I'd like to know he was suffering and scared of what he was faced with now.
4 likesIt’s so fake it hurts
4 likes@Azita Saed There's literally no reason to believe it was fake. Man I swear, some of you people can't even watch the video and get what's going on at the end EVEN WHEN the narrator is telling us in plain language what's going on and what the underlying psychology of the situation is. All because you think they know sooo much with their degree from Cereal Box University University, Reddit Campus.
4 likes@Saita Dosan She was talking about him making himself cry on purpose to receive pity dingus
0 likesOr maybe you’re right, I’m just assuming
@yowch Well the thing is the narrator who has actual degrees in this shit literally told us, the audience, what is going on, and they still act like they 100% know for a fact it was only fake tears to look pitiful on the camera. Maybe it was maybe it wasn't, but I'm inclined to actually try to learn something from an educational video like this and expand my mind instead of watch it and have that educated narrator's opinion go in one ear out the other just so I can keep my most likely wrong preconceived notions.
0 likesKnow what I'm sayin'?
Oh man. I was questioned by the Loss Prevention guy at work one time while I was on Adderall one time and even though I was innocent, that level of anxiety is sky high lol. Can't imagine if I was actually guilty lol
16 likes29:10 Wow, for the female officer. Manipulation, crying & begging him to appeal to some sliver of humanity left him. Her crying, begging & breaking voice eventually made made him confess....what a calculated performance. I get the feeling that he would probably never confess like that to a male detective. And God bless her partner... my sympathies
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why bless her partner? i didnt hear anything about her personal life other than saying she had a daughter. Did I miss something?
22 likes@b m because her partner would never be able to hide anything from her lol (joking ofc)
12 likes@b m Read reply from above 👆🏻. And chill...
1 likeShe’s an amateur that wasn’t a performance lol
0 likesToo bad God didn't bless Savanna I guess huh?
2 likes@RST28 not funny
0 likes@abby r
1 likeAnd too bad he didn't bless those kids in Texas either.
Damn shame..
Apparently homicide runs in the family, his sister was arrested for an unrelated murder as well. That aside, never talk to the police without a lawyer. This monster would've gotten out of it on reasonable doubt had he kept his mouth shut.
7 likesThis is just so incredibly interesting. Thank you for your wonderful work
1 likeSome of these techniques are also useful for any manager in any industry (it is also applicable in choosing true friends). Example and fact. If you are a newly hired manager who has managers reporting to you. If you ask, how was your weekend? The answer should be clear and short. "it was good" "It was busy". If they are start giving you a story from the beginning of time, you have a major problem in your hand, as critical thinking is something the person lacks, which in terms of work, this means the person would not be able to solve simple problems quickly; now, imagine a major issue. How was your weekend?
0 likesDetective: "So how did you know Savannah"
124 likesLee: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And God said, 'Let there be light' and there was light"
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I don’t get it
1 likeLmao
0 likes@Jenna Nicole he is rambling on nonsense
1 like@Jenna Nicole he's giving so much detail that he basically stated the whole of human history
0 likesImagine after hours of interrogation and the suspect confessing the crime, the cameras inside that room weren't recording.
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That's why they have recorder in there to
3 likesDetective: “So how long have you known Savannah?"
37 likesLee: "In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood..."
I watched this interview on a different channel a few days ago. But I knew I’ watched it from yours again it would be allot more informative. Love your channel
0 likeswith respect to the victim... can't a single kidnapper or murderer please just study the previous text messages for like a minute before texting? Like it is a very good way to find out something is wrong but just- it almost angers me because it is such a simple gesture, you open the convo you want to text, you look at the previous messages, you copy either mannerisms or genuine wording, AND THERE YOU HAVE A TOTALLY BELIEVABLE EXCUSE. Also... maybe like say something that would align with the victim's personality as well? not just a "I met someone, I'm running away with him".
4 likesIn this case it would have been more believable that she maybe said that she'd impulsively been at a friend's place, gotten high/drunk, stayed over and asked her mom to not tell anyone as she left for a rehab centre (maybe like confessing that she "had had a problem for a while") in the next town over, saying her phone is about to die but that she will call once she gets there.
I really put no thought into this so there are plot-holes, but like... would shit like this be more convincing? of course, good murderers don't get caught and smart murderers don't put themselves in such an impulsive situation.
Even if I didn’t commit a crime and get interrogated for whatever reason, the thought of a psychologist studying every vocal and physical move that I do alone would make me shit my pants.
3 likes8:45 this reasoning falls short when you realize that he knows it's about someone missing and that therefore the police need as much information as they can to help with the investigation, so it would make sense for an innocent person to feel the need to give a lenghty response. He wouldn't necessarily find that to be just an annoyance deserving of short & less helpful answer.
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It would make sense for an innocent person to wait on the detectives to ask questions before answering. Her entire history with him wouldn't be important to a detective if he was innocent. Why would an innocent person describe their history with drugs? It's irrelevant. Someone who wanted to help wouldn't do that.
1 likeI'm struggling to believe that the breakdown at the end was sincere. I think he's freaked out about going to jail and was trying to get some sympathy
1 likeThe part that really gets me is his apparent motive. He was going to lose his management position at some shitty restaurant? And that’s why he killed someone? Ok.
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Lol I'M SAYINNNN
0 likesI can’t fathom being able to function AT ALL after doing that do someone you had an intimate relationship with… not that I could do anything like that but I’d be a complete mess… crying and vomiting and rolled up into a ball in a corner of some dark room…but he’s just as cool as a breeze! Poor girl… heartbreaking.😞 💔 Rest In Peace Savanah.🌿🥀
1 likeWhile watching this, I realized there's a good chance this guy would never have been caught if it hadn't been for the CCTV that had him dead to rights. 😳
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There's a good chance he would've gotten away with it all regardless of the footage if he'd just kept his mouth shut. The detectives did good work in this interrogation but if he'd just sat there the whole time saying "I want a lawyer" they definitely didn't have enough to convict.
0 likesWow that integrator was amazing getting him to confess to everything by asking the old "So fill me in a bit" question
2 likesIt seems like female detectives can be very effective at appealing to the emotions of the suspect. The only problem is in many cases these people are sociopaths and have very obscured emotional triggers.
5 likesI couldn’t stop cringing when the detective asked him how long he knew Savana and he literally went on for 20 minutes about how they did drugs…
0 likesI see a spoilt mommy's boy that was indeed good at his job and loved it. He got arrogant and started playing girls. Savannah being the decent girl she was, she was the only girl to try and dump him and so he couldn't take it. "You were supposed to make something of yourself" || "Savannah was good to you!"
0 likesMoment of silence for the children of detectives all around the world…. They don’t get away with anything.😔
0 likes🙏
"So how long have you known Savannah?"
2 likesLee: "The missile knows where it is. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting the distant of where it was by how far it is, or the distance of how far it has gone by where it once was, whichever is greater, the missile can calculate where..."
Seeing him cry about going to jail makes me so sick. If I were him I would just sit there in silence and cry because I’d know I deserve prison and I wouldn’t further embarrass myself.
0 likesIt blows my mind that this guy prob wants this shit to end so badly, that he confessed. All he had to do was say one word and it would have ended. Lawyer.
1 likeI don't think this channel realizes what they have here, this narrator combined with the writers choice of cases and attention to the psychological details. If they uploaded again, they would be rolling in subs.
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They’re trying but if you check their videos and community tab, they’re in a rut. YouTube is targeting them and taking down their videos.
0 likesI feel he wanted to go to the toilet to delay the inevitable conclusion.
0 likesJust as asking for another water.
Another interesting thing. Was the bow tie intentionally, to be less intimidating. Just like louis theroux’s geeky exterior. It makes him less intimidating therefore giving his interviewees the feeling they are dominant and blart out more than they actually want.
9:20 but it could be he has ADD or ADHD given the Adderall comment. If thats the case, then he would give a long and lengthy series of tangentially related statements regardless of context, setting, subject matter, or guilt/innocence.
0 likesMan that breakdown footage was hard to watch. I've done that exact thing several times, though for more normal crazy person things, not murder.
2 likesThe female interrogator is so emotional in her plea.
1 likegod I kinda hate myself for feeling bad for him when he said 'you were supposed to make something of your life'
2 likesDetective: "So how long have you known Savannah?"
2 likesLee: "It is a period of civil wars in the galaxy. A brave alliance of underground freedom fighters has challenged the tyranny and oppression of the awesome GALACTIC EMPIRE.
Striking from a fortress hidden among the billion stars of the galaxy, rebel spaceships have won their first victory in a battle with the powerful Imperial Starfleet. The EMPIRE fears that another defeat could bring a thousand more solar systems into the rebellion, and Imperial control over the galaxy would be lost forever.
To crush the rebellion once and for all, the EMPIRE is constructing a sinister new battle station. Powerful enough to destroy an entire planet, its completion spells certain doom for the champions of freedom.."
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LOL
0 likesSometimes I'm scared for my freedom. I talk too much even if not being asked. I'm afraid I'm gonna admit to a crime I didn't do just because I need to say something lol
0 likestook him quite a long time to admit that maybe he shouldn't have killed an innocent person
0 likesI almost think that these people create their own alternate fictional reality in which they never screwed up and cling to it because it's preferable to the truth. This way, they can still think that they're good people. But the lie can be broken down.
0 likesGotta love when people are crying alone at the end, and start acting all remorseful and sad, but that’s only for the camera. A lot like the parkland shooter, gotta put a show on for your pity party
0 likesI’m eating subway right now. It’s in no way hard to watch an asshat breakdown after confessing to a murder. What’s hard is thinking about what that family is going through.
1 likeAre you, JCS going to make more videos? Haven't seen any ones in a long time.
0 likesFrom Canada 🇨🇦 ❤
They never seem to show the most important part— the part where they admit to the crime. Why.
1 likeAt 36:46 I think I heard him say to himself under his breath "I guess you did the right thing telling the truth, Lee".
0 likesI would kill for more content from this channel!! Oh wait…
1 likeMoral of the story, choices have consequences.
1 likeAt the beginning, I thought savannah got a text from her father that he has found some guy he loves and that he's gonna take off now. I was like whoa that's weird.
1 likeDamn, that’s just vicious.
1 likeHe could of lost his job and got a new one..but nooooo, that wasn’t dramatic enough. Monster.
Damn, imagine a supervising job at Bone Fish Grille being so important to you, you kill someone over it. 🧐
0 likesplease add English subtitles (not-autogenerated) for non-native speakers please. your videos are amazing, but I miss almost 40%-50% of them due to language barrier :(
0 likesYou guys are being questioned like this? 🤣🤣
2 likesHere in Tanzania you'll be abducted by police, get tortured for days in very inhumane ways including starvation, being hanged upside down while beating your balls, cutting your toes and peeling of your nails.
And this is all done in a police station and your name will not even be registered at that station. By the time they send you to jail to await your trial, you can't even walk or talk cause most of your teeth have been peeled of with a broken jaw
They may do all this to an innocent man. People end up admitting crimes they didn't commit just to end the torture. Lawless country
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Sucks to be a Tanzanian then, I guess!
0 likesIdk why but the part where he started crying this is the last time we get to wear my chef's coat made me laugh .
0 likesWe need a follow up on this one!
0 likes"...a real piece of shit."
0 likesHe described himself perfectly.
That’s what happens when you watch cooking shows and realize you just warm up prepared food and really can’t cook.
1 likeFYI Those of us with sight impairment cannot read those texts! 👍 Thanks
0 likesThe dude got sentenced. That “self-defence” claim got thrown immediately out.
0 likesLove the way you explain
1 likethe fact that the taped part of the actual confession is not released is suspicious...
0 likesThat ending part was gut wrenching
0 likesSpace telescopes: Catch images from 100's of light years away with crystal clear quality.
3 likesSecurity camera: "Is that a human or a truck?"
When she starts being soothing and he answers it’s like his own mother asking
0 likesVery unprofessional from the female detective, I can see why shes emotional but if she can’t control herself surely sure shouldn’t be in on the interview
0 likesIs it fairly common to admit to drug use in FL? I don’t watch many interrogation tapes. Does FL have a more party culture?
2 likesThere are countries reducing sentences by fractions because judges believe the killers have remorse. This guy broke her neck, burned her body then tried to get rid of her burned body. Then, he kept lying about his killing. He is only sorry because he got busted. He doesn’t deserve normal people’s empathy.
0 likesIs it really so hard to not kidnap and murder someone?
0 likesPsychopaths would be watching videos like this to understand how to manipulate detectives and situations like this.
0 likes16:53 he was lying an as such quickly tried to be defensive when the Detective tried to reach out.
0 likesLee called himself a idiot. At least he acknowledged that.
1 like🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kinda feel for the guy...he seemed really sorry at the end
0 likesIt so sad to think of how she fought so much the car was shaking, he was marked, the car door kicked open, and she still lost the struggle. RIP Savannah
2 likesIt was expected that he killed Savannah but I didn’t see it coming the way he did it
0 likesThe time of day and interrogation time syncing exactly is very satisfying ahah
0 likes@37:57 it sounds like he says “for somebody who was a bitch to you” perhaps someone else got in his head and made him think this was his only option.
1 likeFull interview, including confession (that was previously retracted) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU
0 likesDetective: "So how long have you known Savannah?"
0 likesLee: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth..."
Wait wait wait, I thought that female detective was a little emotional, but that was all an act? Wow.
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really bad acting
0 likesYou can tell he's guilty due to his body language alone jittery leg is a dead giveaway.
0 likes“So how long have you known her”
0 likes“So it all started with the big bang….”
Wait, what’s his motive to killing her?!?!?
0 likesThat wasn’t a 2012 Malibu in the surveillance. That was definitely a pre 2008
0 likesI don't like cops, but this channel makes me want to be a cop
0 likesThe woman was extremely annoying, no wonder he admitted his guilt. Good job ig
0 likesWhat a coward. I hope he enjoys prison.
0 likesI feel bad for these interrogators kids XD!
1 likeWhy all the plastic bottles of water? This shows again and again in these interview videos. What's wrong with tap water? (Apart from anything else, a lot of the time the water in plastic bottles is tap water in any case.)
0 likesI would have conducted the interrogation differently. The guy was obviously easy to break, his knee was constantly moving up and down which gave alot away.
0 likesThey should have stringed Lee along with his story about her getting in to his car. Asked if the car door shut once and then how she got in to the green truck and what he saw after she got out in detail and make it seem like they were believing him and then pretend the focus was now on the guy driving the green truck making Lee feel like he's out of the woods and think he was helping the detectives find the other driver.
Then they shouldve have slapped the evidence of how the car shook and the door kicked open 3 times and she didn't get out to contradict his detailed explanation, its likely he wouldve been speechless at that point as he would have been caught off guard. The interrogators should have then gone straight in for the kill and ask him where she was.
I don't agree with the 'begging' strategy the female detective was employing as it seemed like a rookie and desperate move as the second youre repeating the same question over and over and getting a cold shoulder, the suspect could have used that to his advantage and understand the interrogators were on to him and could have easily said "I'm not saying anything else until my lawyer is present" making it more dificult for the detectives.
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Problem is even innocent people exhibit those behaviours under pressure. Some of the videos on this channel even show that.
0 likesSentenced to 40 years in Jail in 2021
4 likesNothing screams I'm a serious interrogator than wearing a bow-tie
1 likeBest interrogation tactic ever: pleeaase just tell me, pretty please, I'm begging you, please just tell me!
0 likesIt is not true that a person will always give a short answer to questions. I have always been the type of person that gives a lot of information to questions. In fact my Boss once said when i got done answering a question it would make you cry. So that is NOT always the case with people and many times even if innocent questions will go over the head of a person and they do not catch the meaning given to them. Not all people are the same.
0 likesGuilty is guilty with or without lawyers
0 likes"Gonna get killed In jail" "not gonna go in there like this" yeah just like you killed someone else. Sad AF.
1 likethis man is in psychological torture to the point of exhaustion. he is a complete messs, wishing to escape this hell
0 likesIt's funny when they cry 😂, I always think about how stupid they feel lol.
0 likesI want an attorney. Those four words can save you a lot of headache, but not money...
1 likeAMAZING HOW PEOPLE RUN THEIR MOUTHS. “LAWYER!” Oh well
0 likesTypical Dark Triad guy. At least in his social and work environment he would pass as the contextual Alpha (not necessarily a general type of Alpha). Getting the girls. Getting the promotions early on in his career. He would do the work (or pretend in a believable way), he would do the partying also. The world was his oyster. The bosses liked him, the women loved him, so everything had to be placed at his feet. Once he would not get what he wanted, he would get aggressive and confrontational to the point of commiting murder. It was almost a mathematical equation that little Savannah would fall under his charm. And then she found out the type of person he is. The moral of the story is not of course that such guys exist. The moral of the story is that these are precisely the guys that the majority of women get attracted to. Which tells us a lot about female selection criteria and how they are actually feeding these guys into being who they become. In the past one could explain the existence of Dark Triad guys by means of "violence, war, instability in society", i.e. in the sense that these guys thrived and reproduced in violence. Which is not at all the case since in reality these type of guys are doing vastly better in times of peace and liberalisation of morals. It is calculated that today, they don't just have more sex with more women but on average they reproduce more than the other types of men. While Dark Triad has a genetic element, the genetic component's expression's frequency is uncertain but overall it means that future generations on the overall won't be as "tame" as the current ones.
0 likesIs this the same female interrogator as in the Yardley Love case? Sounds like her voice to me.
0 likesDetective: "How long have you known Savannah?"
43 likesLee: "The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine."
You have like 12 videos on your page and the last one posted 8 months ago with 5million subscribers..... you owe us more! 🤨
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I agree!
0 likesKind of odd that he brought up she’s into drugs.. suspicious???? I think so...
0 likesIs there not ANPR cameras around? Could they not track him via them and find out where he went when he drove out? In the UK that is what the police would do.
0 likesImagine if you knew the resolution of these cameras so you just denied having any wounds at all
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they are taking pictures of any wounds and tatoos before interrogation
0 likesor after
0 likesI know he's guilty lol it's obvious but sometimes it's a lil cringy to see cops get so desperate in their interagations like and get all fake dramatic lol
0 likesTerrible acting from the female detective 🤣
6 likesOmggg the cringe of the female detective literally begging him. Lol
1 likeI always want to rewatch this but don’t cause it ends with her yelling hysterically in the most annoying way
0 likesThe woman detective being there was a bad idea. Just saying please, please, please, please, please tell us is not investigative police work.
1 likeTherein lies the young man's problem: at approximately minute 36:13 seconds he's still blaming savannah the woman he just murdered for the problem he now faces. Lack of responsibility is self will at its weakest, and will always live for what pleases self rather than another, even to the point of murder rather than taking responsibility of a situation. It's the immature ego and the devil inside us all. Self denial, repentance, and prayer for redemption is our only hope. May God reach this young man in his prison cell, as he did me.
2 likesI feel like I'm preparing for sitting on that chair. But I don't wanna do anything lol
0 likesCop 'Do you have kids?'
0 likesOffender (Lee) 'No'
Cop 'One day when you have kids...'
Hahahaha not going to happen with a 40 year prison sentence 🤣
First 8 mins
0 likes"I'm on amphetamine salts I got from a homeboy"
Interrogator: "perfect"
We all have issues. We don't END HUMAN life over anything except REAL SELF DEFENSE! Meaning it was that or die ourselves no other option.. So pathetic. But God is the one who will Judge him. I pray for his family and foremost Savanahs family.
1 likeShe is lucky he continued to speak with her aggressive manner. Not impressed with this one, much.
0 likesSeems more like coercion than interrogation.
this channel is brilliant. miss u
0 likesMurder someone: i’m so happy
0 likesGo to jail: i’m so sad
This guy killed a petty heartbroken girl over his job at BONEFISH GRILL.
0 likesBetter get a lawyer, son
0 likesBetter get a real good one...
Hard drugs like Meth scare him, yet he abuses Adderall. Make sense.
0 likesif he kept his mouth shut, would that help him?!
0 likesYup, the female detective still annoys me. Put your big girl pants on and be a cop like you always wanted.
0 likesMy OCD is well pleased with the clock synchronization!
0 likesIf you kill people, please talk about it to the police.
0 likesPlead not guilty 🤷🏽♀️
0 likesI was actually friends with Savanah in middle school. I sadly had to move away, but just so everyone knows, she was an amazing, beautiful woman and I'm so happy I got to be able to call her my friend at one point. I still can't believe this and I hope she's in the most beautiful afterlife. This makes my heart hurt so much and he deserved life in prison.. not 40 years.
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Me too
10 likesWow
3 likesMay she RIP
4 likesDid you guys ever do heroin together?
62 likes@Lucas Zwastetzky lamp
8 likesBut just know, he might not live for another 40 years, especially in prison. Life expectancy tends to be significantly shorter in prison.
15 likesScore 101 up votes. Try harder making up stories next time.
4 likes@Princeofcups Poc That’s not even a story though that’s just a statement
13 likesWhy is every person that died just suddenly became this amazing beautiful person? Yeah no one deserves to die especially of murder, but dying doesn’t make you a good person automatically :/.
39 likesYea right
2 likes@Lucas Zwastetzky lmao
2 likes@DGXDCoder People tend to talk about their friends in a positive light, especially when they’re missed
21 likes@HillbillyHell maybe her life went to shit, what do you know? she said she knew her in middle school and didn't say she was perfect or anything
14 likesCap
0 likesHe’ll have grey hair when/if he gets out. Forty years isn’t much different from life in prison.
2 likes@Christian Allinson Fischer it is when you're only obligated to serve 50% of your sentence.
1 likeI smell cap
4 likesMe too
0 likesI actually drove through Jacksonville on my way to Georgia.
1 likeYes she was, don't know what about after that
0 likes@Lucas Zwastetzky wtf man
0 likesFfs man . Im going to hell now after laughing at that
1 like@DGXDCoder No but this person knew her and thought she was beautiful.
0 likes@Princeofcups Poc I sat with her in my middle school of the art in Jacksonville Florida is my sculpture class and gym class in high school try the fuck again when you want to post shit about people knowing her because people on the internet want to think they know everything. Real cute. She was my friend.
1 likeYall want to talk about my post when half of you guys didn't know her, when we were friends back when I was 14 she was a great person. So yall coming on her taking shit about my friend that was killed blows my mind. Someone was killed and I have good memories of them so yall want to say some fucked up things? Did yall even know her? Probably not
1 likeI totally believe you, im her great cousin and also her grandpa, she was indeed amazing and I totally knew her
0 likesI'm sorry for your loss
0 likesRewatching all of these before they get removed
2 likes34:13 “I really should’ve let you get out.”
0 likesEven I am dating my manager 😶 this shook me🤢
0 likesI’m glad he didn’t get the death sentence. Hate to see when people get it
0 likesRule number 1 don't talk so much! Also rule number 1 get a lawyer asap!
0 likesMom I'm gonna die in jail. The rest of us are thinking......good. Easier than she had it.
0 likesthat woman is GOOD at her damn job
0 likesI felt really sorry for the guy. A determined life since his mother was an addict. In what shitty societies we live in? Sorry man that you have been an American. If you were a Scandinavian you would come out of the “remaking” place as a new person. Really sorry for you having been born in this country :(
0 likesthe lady investigator is so annoying she would have aggravated me. tell us please. that tactic would never work on me.
1 likeJCS is the only channel I love to watch ads on
0 likesyou showed a 2012 malibu but i think thats a 2007. Count the number of grills on the front end.
0 likesDid y’all know he has a second channel? It’s called “J C S”, it has a cat picture.
0 likesLOL he is crying because he got caught and he is going to prison and having to face his fear of that is the only reason for his emotional outburst here in my opinion.
0 likes"please Lee, I'm begging you, please don't make me HAVE TO DO MY JOB!!" 🤣🤡🐖👮🏻♀️🐽
0 likes"The last time you get to wear a chef coat"...
0 likesJust don’t talk to the police .
1 likeyou mean pain pills arent hard drugs?? lmfao
0 likesThe female interrogator is an amateur. The male interrogator should have conducted the interview alone and would have gotten a confession sooner.
0 likesHe's fake crying, it's a show. Moans and whines, then pop! face switches back to neutral and checks if his nails are trimmed. There's nothing there.
0 likesLee:after the entire confession…… basically u got 5 dollars I can borrow?
0 likeslove his leg movements..
0 likesMan its been a year....i kinda miss your channel pleas come back to us
0 likesDo more from Jacksonville
0 likesthe female detective is as good as hell. She knows how to manipulate her target and she did it too good! smooth asf.
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She is, so good that it shouldn't be legal
0 likesThese look like some unorganized detectives... Pretty similar to what goes on here in Baltimore 😒🚫🐖
0 likesFlorida jails and prisons are fucking mad houses and are extremely tough environments. All prisons are to a certain extent, of course, but Florida is exceptionally difficult
1 likeJCS: "...Duval county..."
0 likesMe: through pavlovian conditioning "DUVAAAAAAAALLL"
at first I laughed cuz I thought his name was rotarde but then i read it again and realized I'm rotarde
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Comments don’t make me chuckle often but for some reason this one got me
0 likesHow do you know Savannah ? “…Fore score and seven years ago…”
1 likeBruh, the time of the day and interrogation lining up is extremely satisfying.
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Agreed.
10 likesVery lol
5 likesThat is usually planned. Like interrogation will begin at 09:00 or 11:30 etc
5 likesI’m sorta annoyed at it
0 likesNot a coincidence.
0 likes"I dont wanna go to jail" i dont think she wanted to die lee.
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Is right.
4 likesI feel that, U don't get to have anything anymore
7 likesDuring his cry session he said "fucking Savannah" - like it was her fault.
26 likes*murders someone*
6 likes*gets sent to jail*
Murder convict: surprised pikachu face
@Michael Jantzen Obviously was mainly her fault if he was telling the truth and she assaulted him. Dont assault someone unless you are willing to die, its common sense.
0 likes7:30 How you doin'?
0 likesTell me about yourself. I will wait until you ask me a less general question. Also, can I get some more water?
0 likesI've never seen such an emotional interrogator.
1 like@Jonny Akster M8 you don’t murder someone whos a lot smaller and weaker than you for slapping you continuously. It’s common sense
3 likes@𝓚𝓲𝓶𝓲𝓴𝓸 yeah I didn't care for the female interrogator one bit, to emotional and annoying.
0 likes@Jonny Akster That assault would happen if getting strangled. Any person would try to get away from death by assaulting someone in defense which in her case, she did. Thus the murderer having scratch marks on his body.
0 likes@TheValkosuklaa Er. If you wanna take slaps without hitting back that's on you.
0 likesNot saying I even believe it was self defense in any way cause I don't know if she even did hit him, also not saying I'd kill someone for slapping me either, but I sure as shit ain't just taking it.
@Dale C Don’t get me wrong, you should stand up against anyone hurting you. But continuing after they have stopped or can’t hurt you anymore, it’s just not self defence at that point. And I’d imagine that a person who just slaps you, will stop after you have swung back once
0 likesIf you don't like a person, just leave them. Don't kill!
0 likesShe seems like a bad interrogator
0 likesHe thinks that he's going to die in jail, no buddy your not going to the county jail you are off to the state penitentiary. You best stop your whimpering buddy and toughen up crying is forbidden in the state prison
0 likesHe got slapped twice ... So he beat the shit out of her and closed the door twice as she tried to escape then burned her body and threw it out like trash
477 likesLee: self-defense! Nailed it.
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It's Florida. We got stand your ground laws. That might have worked here.
4 likesYeah the injuries on him suggest that even he was physically assaulted by the victim. Poor jerks!!!
3 likes“she slapped him a few times which made him fear for his life so he grabbed her neck and Accidentally killed her” alright.
11 likes@Very extremely original username Cringe account
0 likesIs that what it comes down to? Say you don’t wanna answer any questions holy fuck
0 likesSurveillance cameras are so shit.
1 like"Mom. I'm gonna die when I'm in jail!" What happened Billy Badass? Fine with murdering a 5'1 90lb woman but crying like a pansy when faced with the fact that your reckoning is coming? Cry me a damn river
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Waiting for the narrator to say "he did".
29 likesHis heat of the moment action is what grants him a reason to feel regret. It wasn't premeditated, still murder, but caused by split-second reactions.
18 likesJohn Kotarsky he’s not small, he’s 5’11”.
23 likespaxsmile you are setting yourself up there friend. A woman will tell you 5’11 is short and basically dunk on you.
6 likesI saw a lot of regret. That he was cough, and more regret, that he talked. He defended himself and snapped her neck? People necks don't just snap. three times a door opens? He never let her go. There is no defense in this.
25 likes@Carrier you dont talk to people much irl do you?
27 likesDon't worry he'll get the treatment soon
4 likes@paxsmile I realize not everyone can be my size. Hehe, But seriously, he is only 160 pounds. I know high school kids bigger. That is a small dude for prison.
6 likesRoosevelt lol I’m a girl and I worked in a prison with 1600 dangerous men and I can tell you, 5’11” is not small.
17 likesJohn Kotarsky like I said before I worked in a prison with 1600 dangerous men. Ask any officer and they will tell you the really small ones 5’5” and under) are the really violent ones. They have to make up for their stature.
13 likes@Carrier
0 likes6'0
5'11
5'10
5'9
@John Kotarsky 5'11" isnt small. It's average if not above average for American men.
10 likes@John Kotarsky 5.11 is not small
5 likesI don't consider him a human being. Human beings don't kill each other.
1 likecorrection, 5'0", same height as me. Made me lol when he claimed self-defence.
0 likes@Carrier ok incel. 5'11" is tall.
2 likes@Johnny Green Face It's above average, you're right.
0 likesCould you imagine throwing your life away like this though?
0 likesWould you feel better if it had been a 6'1 290lb woman?
2 likes"Mom, I'm gonna die in jail!" sounds a lot better than what poor Savannah would have said if she could, "Mom, I'm gonna die in the back seat of this immature, impulsive, idiot's filthy car when he squeezes the last breath from my lungs for absolutely no reason whatsoever!"
3 likesRoosevelt that’s some incel logic if I’ve ever seen it
3 likesDid he say that in the video? Or some other news piece?
0 likes@Ageust2 Hahaha perfect
0 likes@Kishon Webb for real lol especially with the internet at his fingertips... Lol shame
0 likes@Ageust2 got'em
0 likes@ITHEREONETHATHASNT yes, I've seen so many cases where men have have had their necks broken after they slapped their girlfriend.
1 likeJust in case you are not sure, I was being sarcastic.
0 likesJohn Kotarsky everyday in the showers!
0 likes@Eric Harrison I'm 5'11 and my entire life I've been told I'm tall by girls and even other dudes. Not as frequently as someone who is 6'2 or above would, though.
1 like“I know you’re not evil” knowing that’s exactly what he is. I say that to compliment how good this detective is at her job. Rest In Peace to this girl. ☮️
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Rip??
2 likes@siu ken yeah the one he murdered.
7 likes@Maister oh yea fuck me.... i thought he was talking about the detective
22 likesAgreed she said that to gain vulnerability and it worked.
0 likesInterrogator: “So how do you know Savannah?”
661 likesLee: “The world is changed... I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, I smell it in the air... Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it...
It began with the forging of the great rings,”
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Phil Mycrackin it’s a lord of the rings reference
24 likesHis first day in prison, he hears "looks like meat back on the table boys"!
16 likesFrodo!!!
5 likes@Act9 I smell.. MANFLESH.
6 likesI chuckled
1 likeThat was funny....but now I feel guilty for laughing.
2 likesI see you are a man of culture
2 likesI screamed
1 likeLMAO I love this
1 likewhen he called himself stupid, i thought he regretted killing her, only when the narrator said it was over the confession i realised how messed up and unremorseful people like this are.
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Well later he does say "I'm so sorry Savannah" and then "Savannah was so nice to you, of course somebody's gonna be a bitch to you". I don't know why I can't help but feel bad for him. If I had to guess, I'd say he likely had extreme anger management issues but isn't like evil, I don't know. Unless he knew they were recording him and it was all a show?
90 likes@Momera I think he definitely did this in a fit of uncontrollable rage he had in that moment. I don't think he necessarily wanted to kill her.
56 likes@Momera It's human to empathize with someone when they look so distressed (empathy can be a quality AND a fault), but at the end of the day, he is guilty of murder. So many of us have had fits of rage and didn't kill someone over them. Even then, the culprit may not have hidden the body and outright lied to the police if he regretted his actions. He was only sorry he got caught, and at that point was clearly confused over what he was feeling himself. Again, even in the event that he did come to feel sorry that he had killed her, then if arresting him was what was needed to trigger it, then good, because he was rightfully arrested. This man, no doubt, deserves punishment, and not for people to feel sorry for him. He is responsible for his own actions. He didn't give his victim, or her loved ones, whom he attempted to manipulate, a choice.
88 likes@Ezio Augustus I definitely agree. But that doesn't make it any better. I mean if not savannah, then it would have been someone else eventually
9 likesAnd the he had the gall to plead not guilty to her murder. Man got sentenced to 40 years, and he deserves it.
22 likes@Jadzia I know that he deserves it and all, but it's still really hard to not feel a little bad for him at the end, at least for me it is.
11 likes@Pxaches Which is what I described as empathy, unless you insist on defending him somewhat.. ?
10 likes@Jadzia no no. I was just agreeing with you
4 likes@Momera Agreed. He reminds me of an old classmate who was prone to fits of anger. A teacher would be asking him to read something off the board, and he'd get progressively angry until he was threatening her with a chair. The fact that Savannah had kicked the back door open twice makes me sick. The way she was brutalized makes me feel like it was in a fit of rage that her murder happened and as much as I despise him, there's something pathetic about him. I can't help but feel bad.
5 likesAnyone who thinks they're capable of murder should take at close hard look from 33:50 on. That's clearly not regret for just confessing, that's regret for turning his life into a living hell because he thought murder would somehow solve his problems.
10 likes@Momera Murdering innocent people makes you evil, anger management issues or not. No sympathy for murderers.
7 likesFWIW, the information on this video is a bit out of date. He did plead guilty and the full confession has been released - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU
1 likeGiven he was blubbering like a baby when he confessed, I'm also of the opinion that he didn't intend to kill her, and regrets doing it. I don't think his regret is only for himself. Still, my empathy for him ends where he tried to cover his crime rather than call the cops and confess right away.
@Ezio Augustus being in a rage is no excuse for murder, could understand if he hurt her but the man strangled her to death also.
2 likes@Momera you sound like one of those people that easily gets manipulated
0 likes@The Dude You sound like one of those people who think that being kind to people makes you weak
2 likes@Momera uncontrollable rage and murder doesn't make you evil I guess guys
0 likesi was about to watch this but i realized i already watched a streamer watch it and it was SO MUCH FUNNIER!
0 likesThe fact alone that he picked off scabs In a kitchen should fetch him at least a hard 20 without possibility of parole.
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Level 4 super max
4 likes@cannoness Skylla I think you might be onto something there... You a cop? Wow..
14 likes@Jerry Boics 😂🤣 That's a big 10-4 on a large r/WHOOOOSH.
3 likesHard labor.....
0 likes@cannoness Skylla seeing the video of the car shaking was sickening.
2 likes@pierre117 the hero we need, but not the one we deserve
2 likesDiji...💀☠💀☠💀☠💀☠💀☠💀
0 likesWhy does his first response remind me of those online recipes where you have to read through 8 pages about the authors childhood before learning how to make the damn fudge cake
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Beth Horton: “If you have to wait for it you’ll appreciate it more!” - Aunt Bertha.
23 likesNow here’s my bread recipe but first I’ll tell you about the little town I grew up in. It was actually a countryside community with chickens and cows and such and I had an aunt who baked everything perfectly so we always liked going there because she made cinnamon rolls and real ice cream in a churn. As it turns out though her pumpkin pie was not actually made from pumpkins and her apple pie was sometimes not made from apples, but we didn’t know, so anyway................about that bread recipe......
When the youtube tutorial can be explained in 30 seconds, but needs to hit that 10 minute mark...
17 likesHow is it that everyone who's ever looked up a recipe online has had the same terrible experience, yet narcissistic food bloggers continue to exist? How can such people thrive in an environment where they're universally hated?
10 likesLandon Hagan: I don’t - I just scroll to the bottom of the page, glance at the ingredients and go to the kitchen and invent. I just like to see other people’s ideas sometimes.
7 likesBahaha finally someone put it in words aha
6 likes@Landon Hagan that's why the skip to recipe button was invented 😂
1 like@Landon Hagan Because they monetize through adverts and the longer it takes you to get to the end, the more ads pop up. Just a theory.
5 likesBeth Horton LMAOOOOO
1 likeI love you for this comment. "Let me tell you why my silly family of 5 just absolutely adores this cheap recipe for dinner"
13 likesshantibel probably a correct theory.
0 likesRay Ray fair enough I guess.
0 likes@bigstupidgrin and that's why you look for the Indian videos at leas than 3 minutes
2 likescatch tone right?? 😂
0 likesOh my god. Thank you. I didn’t click the link for your biography. I just wanna know how to make coq au vin.
1 likeMmmmmm...... fudge cake.
0 likes@Mikey 😊
0 likesOmg, so well said
0 likesThey do this to hit keywords so their site appears higher in searches.
0 likesOh my goodness! You PERFECTLY summed it up! Hilarious! 🤣🤣
0 likesI legit created my own browser extension to rid of that nonsense and just display the damn recipe 😂
0 likesOr the South Park episode with the food critics
0 likesOh my god I thought I was the only one who noticed and hated those recipe sites that do that.
0 likesThe female detective is a fucking genius. Interrogators have what is called a "booth persona/booth voice" and her's is perfect for the approaches they were using. You can tell she doesn't actually feel this way, hell its even possible that she doesn't even have a daughter.But the suspect doesn't know that and that added personal pressure is brilliant from them.
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I thought she was far worse then the other interviewer and should have let him control the whole thing. She fumbled her words multiple times.
49 likesThen she said please I’m
52 likesBegging you multiple times…. Very unprofessional not needed during this interview. This man was on the verge of cracking, no need to “beg” him for anything.
@Tommy Mc exactly they found the approach and dialed it up to 11 and it worked. "Unprofessional" shut up, you clearly don't know how any of this works
167 likes@Russell Contreras Great well from my point of view you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. I guess agree to disagree then 🤷♂️
12 likes@Tommy Mc that's fine, but I have the training
42 likes@Russell Contreras Oh do you?What training is that exactly..? Doesn’t seem like you do whatsoever…
14 likesare you people seriously arguing over the internet against faces you most likely have never seen before
43 likes@Glacier I wouldn’t say arguing… he did tell me to shut up though lol. Some people can’t handle a disagreement.
10 likes@Tommy Mc I've seen this tactic before in other situations where they need to find where the body is, and the criminal hasn't admitted to anything. It's actually very clever. The female officer is highly trained and she was perfect with her timing and acting to get what she wanted. I've seen male officers do the same so called begging. The point is to get that result. Job done ! - On the verge is not a confession. It's like saying a woman is nearly pregnant.
94 likes@Jim led50jl Would have cracked regardless it was clear… provide one other instance of an interrogation where the interrogator begged someone to confess… I’ll watch the video happily.
4 likes@Glacier You very clearly have no training. Training haha! Why would you need to defend yourself to random internet strangers? It’s pretty clear you know quite little of anything that’s happening, and you’re desperate attempts to feign understand of the interrogation is so transparent. She really was not that necessary to the interview. At all. Anyone could tell you that. Clearly you’re training didn’t hahahah
1 like@Tootle I think you ated the wrong guy
11 likes@Glacier Well I most certainly did, what a dreadful mistake I made. Apologies
1 like@Tommy Mc you dont know how you would react in his shoes with thst lady there. It must've been planned and well... they literally got him to confess to murder in like 30 minutes... usually it takes weeks, not minutes, so they must've done something right. Especially since the male detective didn't do anything special here to crack him, quite the contrary, he fucked up big time once during this short interview... when he told the suspect "so when Savannah left the backseat of your car" when he never mentioned she was sitting jn rhe back seat (and why would she if he said they were just supposed to talk). He literally almost immidiately blew the whole investigation up because at that moment the suspect could have realised they are lying to him and know a lot while pretending they dont know shit. If he caught up with that, he would get scared and probably lawyer up immidiately or just stop talking
35 likesSo in short, the male detective was aversge (not enough time to prove his worth) and then made s horrible mistake but thankfully it didnt backfire, while the lady immidiately started going over the top and like 5 minutes later man admitted to murder while 20 minutes earlier he thought he was being arrested for outstanding tickets.
It soes look stupid and silly, but who cares if it worked? Wtf
@Tommy Mc Read a book and you'll understand she was a genius and put the act on perfectly
16 likes@Tootle I'm sorry but I just find it so embarrassing that you're using an overly formal way of speaking with big words to obviously make yourself seem more intelligent and yet you're trying to call someone else out for 'seeking validation', all the while not knowing the difference between 'your' and 'you're'. 💀
6 likes@Jim led50jl even if its an act its poorly executed and used with the entirely wrong suspect.
0 likesI never seen a cop do what she did she was killing my ears crying and begging than she talks normal than she get back to crying and begging she sound like she belong in the crazy house
1 like@jungle357 drama are you also a cop? do you know the complete ins and outs of methods used in interrogations? you've probably never seen a cop do that before because you are neither a cop nor do cops reveal every single trick they use up their sleeves. it's odd that you think you know more about how investigations work than literal investigators.
6 likes@Tommy Mc you have no idea how that works
2 likes@LilToy Read a book 😂😂 ah typical “Look it up bro” response.
2 likesDon't come at me cuz some of ya'll are unstable here but what the detective did was right. It's like hacking into the suspect. When females show emotion or say something that sounds personal in a situation like this it's more believable. While the male will be hard on the suspect and making the suspect feels threatened..im pretty bad at explaining stuff in English cuz this isn't my first language but i hope it's readable
12 likes@Tommy Mc oh god, the begging the emotions were a tactic, if you can't even see that you're as gullible as the suspect except his guilt is making him gullible, what makes you gullible?
2 likes@Kelly Lynch she doesn't care what she comes across as to a murderer, she acted as crazily or emotionally as she had to overwhelm and stress out the suspect and it worked
5 likes@Iffat Rizvi Jeez 3 responses in one hour…. Are you okay? 😂
0 likes@sahar hajivandi no it's not obvious you're just oblivious
3 likes@Tommy Mc perfectly fine thank you, I'll tell you something that'll blow your mind though, possibly unlike yours, my brain can do a lot more in an hour than type out three simple sentences!😄👍
1 likeI disagree, she was overly dramatic and unprofessional
0 likes@Tommy Mc Totally agree, interrogations are no place for histrionics, I was cringing every time she spoke
0 likes@Ziggy Pop another dude who thinks they know what's going on. It isn't hysterics, it's acting. All this shit, was written in a plan and approved by someone higher than them.
4 likesRussell Contreras No I just know a bad interrogator when I see one from watching 20 years of this stuff. It was awful, she should get some training from Chris Watts female detective Tammy Lee
0 likes@Ziggy Pop 20 years of watching what? TV? And zero actual doing? Poetry. Sorry mr expert.
3 likesNot that genius if you can tell she doesn’t feel that way! Second he’s a dumb as hell not hard especially as he gave in just by her pleading please please please a million times, what was so genius about any of these interrogators???
0 likesAs soon as she brings up the traffic cam he starts denying denying denying
0 likes@Doc You are sensitive… Anyway, hope your life improves! All the best to you and your family.
1 like@Iffat Rizvi oh I’m sure LMAO
0 likes@Tommy Mc Pleading tactics are used just as much as the no hope tactic. Interrogators are allowed to do whatever they want within the interrogation room. It's not wrong that it isn't exactly genius to think of it, but it's hard to pull off considering the fact that within JCS's content you can see how hard it is for a person to multitask. Asking/answering questions and feigning emotions (Jennifer's Solution).
7 likesA woman in distress and pleading might've put him on edge and the reason why she mentions her daughter is to have an emotional connection. It's the same reason why someone might talk about their family when threatened, because it makes the perpetrator see them as *human*.
Please do not discredit the investigator just because she is a woman, because it's obvious that if the man did this, you would assume it was completely necessary. Let's be honest.
@im a cat Literally no idea what the gender has to do with anything I said…. You are legitimately out of your mind. Have a good day regardless!
0 likes@Tommy Mc Really? Are you sure that you're not targeting the interrogator because she happens to be a woman, and she's using tactics that would work against a woman abuser? Because majority of this "critiques" from citizens that have zero experience in her job are stemmed from misogynistic views. Why is it that being too emotional is something that discredits her, or why is was it that it was completely unnecessary? They had her in the room for a reason, did they not? Gender has a lot to do with the undertones of your comments towards her.
3 likesAlso, nice job avoiding every other thing I said in my comment that would prove you wrong about what you said abt the interrogator.
@im a cat Yes I’m sure…. Had the genders been reversed I would have felt the same way… 🤦🏻♂️🤮
0 likes@Tommy Mc LOL then whats the problem with her. cause she certainly did a good job at her job.
0 likes@im a cat So… you really didn’t read any of the prior messages that explain your question…. Amazing. 🤦🏻♂️
0 likes@Tommy Mc Sooo, you really didn’t read the rest of my original comment that would refute your ignorant points? Fantastic!
0 likes@im a cat I did but you seem very emotional and all over the place… then literally accused me of being sexist out of no where based on zero evidence. Anyway, hope you have a good day angry internet person… life’s to short.
0 likes@Tommy Mc My first paragraph was strictly about the tactic, provided with a reference to another JCS video. My second paragraph was about why I thought she did it. My third paragraph was the only one where I let my suspicion that you're just criticizing her because she's a woman.
2 likesThere is quite literally no emotion over the first two paragraphs which you avoid, because I assume it proves you wrong. The third one was completely out of my own feelings of what you sound like. You are being very immature and too emotional. These passive aggressive comments are not professional. Very bad!
@im a cat Keep assuming I guess. And the feeling is mutual about maturity. Your first message came back to gender yet again. Pretty amazing… Either way have a good day internet lady. Even though You brought gender in this discussion out of literally no where and made assumptions. I still wish you all the best. ❤️
0 likes@Tommy Mc You are still avoiding the rest of the comment. You are so dead-set onto that one flaw in my defense for her, even though I explained that what you're saying about a lady interrogator being "too emotional" has sexist undertones.
2 likesWhat don't you understand about that? That is a stereotype about many women before they got their highranking job (that they'd be too emotional to be fit for it) and it's not uncommon for people to still use it to single out a woman. That is all.
Also, you STILL just refuse to admit that the rest of the comment still stands unchallenged. Because, I assume because of how determined you are to avoid it, it is correct. Are you not going to do anything about it apart from letting out the bitchy cry of "ya being too emotional"?
@Tommy Mc Also, I brought in gender into the discussion because it's an important thing to mention. Are you saying her actions were unnecessary and unprofessional because of the begging? Because I said something about that in my original comment. If you cannot bring anything else up, then you have to admit that it is because of your own profiling because otherwise, how else would you come to that conclusion?
1 likeAdded onto your other claim that "he was going to crack regardless", that is sort of true. He has shut down multiple times and before that display the interrogator put on, didn't seem to want to get past the simple answer of "I don't know".
Her begging included telling him that she didn't think he was a bad person, that he should just tell us where they went at LEAST. Do you understand why she said at least? It's to lure him into admitting he /WAS/ the last person to see her. Although they have video camera evidence, he can deny deny deny until they catch him on tape admitting to that yes, he was the last person known to see her.
Then, once he admits to that, they can build on top of that. She was doing her job great.
This comment reply section is hilarious and I want so say my opinion on some stuff
4 likes1. In an interrogation they make their plans carefully so if u think the woman acted unprofessional the man probably knew and they worked on it together
2. Don’t make fun of someone’s voice to justify how ur opinion is of their profession
3. It worked very well so none of this matters anyway
4. This case was only meant for the suspect and not for you to watch so ur opinion on her voice doesn’t matter and u don’t have to watch it or be rude about it
5. This job is all about mindgames and getting people to break, confess, or give enough info it use against them in court so the method doesn’t matter as much as long as it works and gets the job done
This is just my opinion
If u disagree good for u ig but don’t use my grammar or insult me personally to prove ur point. Have a great day/afternoon/night :)
@BatzDoArtz This was a good way to frame your argument and all were good points that you made. No assumptions or name calling and you stated it was your opinion and you are right none of this really matters.People now days seem to get offended when others disagree and resort to assumptions and name calling. Civil disagreements are rare these days. Have a great night :)
1 like@BatzDoArtz what you said isn't just an opinion, it's the objective truth
0 likes@Russell Contreras lol I don’t want to make anyone more upset. Everyone here gets angry so easily :/
0 likes@BatzDoArtz IDK, its mostly due to the fact that there was literally no reason as to why someone would call her out for being unprofessional (other than they just don't like women or they have little understanding of the subject, which why even make a comment on it if you're just spewing rando stuff), so even if what you said is literally the truth and she's doing her job correctly, there's still going to be people who says it's an ""OpInIon"" because they want an easy way out of people calling out their bullshit.
1 likePeople get angry because it's just sort of a justice thing they have, me included. You're gonna find a lot of those kinda people under a JCS video because it deals with.. well, justice. They're not doing anything wrong (unless they are threatening a persons life), because just saying "you're a piece of shit" is way more relieving than just going back and forth with a brick wall.
I think the woman was unauthentic.
0 likeshers*
0 likesJust like you don't write his's
The investigator's are a great team. Everytime the female detective intervenes the other detective doesn't turn to look and keeps eye contact with the suspect
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Her speech had a lot of emotion in it. Not sure if that's a technique or not but it seemed forced and out place.
26 likes@Sleako I think her hysterics were calculated and planned. It’s perfect.
17 likes@Sleako Yes, it was technique. And it worked perfectly. They squeezed the confession out of him in less than an hour.
5 likes7:31 imagine you’re being interrogated for a kidnapping and your detective is just scrolling through Instagram while you wait
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Intimidating, right?
65 likesAhhhh yesss.. The ole' Good Cop, Bored Cop routine.... Gets 'em every time!
163 likesIt’s great, her pretending to not give a shit about this until suddenly she bursts like a jumpscare. It must’ve really made the bastard panic
124 likesI was thinking about that, even something as simple as being able to scroll on Instagram without worry or concern I bet feels like a luxury to him at that point. Its like a subtle way of giving him some existential dred.
59 likesCheckin her Facebook
3 likes"Jesus christ, could you just admit already? We know you did it, I want to go hang out with Becky and Mackenzie so we can parteyadadadadadaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
22 likesAlpha women move
13 likesthen writing her shopping list
0 likesSo what?
0 likesDetective : Lee what color socks are you wearing???
3065 likesLee : well so in the beginning we crawled out of the water and started to walk on land
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LMFAO this comment actually is funny
45 likesThe world would be better off if the Cambrian explosion didn’t happen
23 likes😆
4 likesLMAO!!
3 likesOH GOD LOL
4 likesThats such a stupid example/comparison! 🤦🏻♂️
0 likes@Jackson Morrison 2 you mean if Humans wouldnt exist? Thats a stupid thesis
1 like@Alessio Cece Lol yeah you’re right I was 100% not kidding around or anything. You’re weird.
7 likes@Alessio Cece wooosh
2 likesYeah so this shitty cell started to split apart and now I have to do the dishes
4 likesHaha!
0 likesYou funny
0 likesThis made me genuinely lmao
3 likesThe grass was greener upon dry earth.
1 like@Alessio Cece ur kinda cringe 😬
5 likesOmg 🤣🤣
1 likeIt is weird observing how a person behaves when they realize that their life has literally ended, however....I do not feel bad.
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I hope he felt even an ounce of the pain or fear Savannah must have felt in that car.
19 likesI do not feel bad about drug-users and those who become slaves of some f-boys. All of them are pure mess!!!! Yikes!
1 likeEdit: I know I will get attacked a lot because of my opinion because people don't want to realize how bad those two things are. Stay away from both of them, at all cost!!!
You don't have to do all huge mistakes in life, if you can learn those mistakes from other people.
Look at them closely and see their pathetic lives!
The female detective pretending to cry was slightly weird and uncomfortable to watch
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@Tahkeem Hilton2.0 raped?
21 likes@antdgar your words, not his
259 likesCOMMENT CHALLENGE, FILL IN THE BLANK:
6 likesI always _______, but I never ________.
It throws off the suspect. It's perfect.
99 likes@antdgar we see where your mind went
34 likesI don't think it was fake crying since you can see her wiping tears away. I'm certain the crying was intentional to try and play on his emotions (assuming he has any), but it wasn't "fake" per se.
88 likesRegulus poop, wipe
12 likes@Christopher Marlowe Razzie*?
6 likesWorked, didn't it?
19 likes@Dog Space Cadet It's not that uncommon to actually get tears when you pretend to cry. Or even cry about something unrelated (a recently deceased familiy member or something)
26 likesI don't think the tears say anything at all about wether it was real or not.
Detectives aren’t supposed to get emotionally involved in cases such like these, it must be hard but I think it might have been acting to throw the suspect off.
12 likesEekiki Good point, perhaps she genuinely had some emotions bubbling up and she tried to capitalize on it. Noticed she weeps a bit when talking about her daughter, which closely follows the male interrogator asking if Lee has children. I think they were building toward a “Lee, if you’re a real man and a good role model you’ll confess”
27 likesHappy Wanderer pretending? Why can’t it be real?
2 likesIt's called acting, have you ever watched a movie?
5 likes@Tahkeem Hilton2.0 Were you going to say Beheaded?
1 likeTahkeem Hilton2.0 I know right? It made ME nervous and i’m not even the one who it was directed to.
1 likeTahkeem Hilton2.0 - well the detective wasn’t going to completely lose her composure, and start bawling and run out the room in tears. She did have a job to do. Doesn’t make her emotions fake. I can tell you’re a very binary thinker that doesn’t do well with complex topics.
11 likes@Dante Good they are paid actors, that is why it is acting.
1 like@Regulus I always spit, but I never swallow?
3 likesshe wasn't pretending - she got emotional then reeled it in
2 likesIt was a lot
0 likesIt was pathetic and unnecessary, frankly. But whatever works.
15 likesShe got wayyy too emotional
8 likesShe's far too dramatic college girl for me. Don't like her at all.
10 likesit was actually pretty bad, and also kinda unneeded at this point, like "we have proof" is gonna get more out of him than her fake crying that wasnt even that convincing.
18 likesGamesux - She was was just briefly emotional for a few moments. You’re exaggerating her behavior. She spent the large part of the interrogation cornering the suspect with facts. Are you guys just irritated and bytchy over professional women w/ power over male suspects?
17 likes@Dante Good I never said that she kept up this behaviour for a longer time and I don't know what you're trying to insinuate with that last sentence my comment has nothing to do with her beeing "a professional women with power over a male" and you might just be delusional. She clearly stopped earlier than she would've because It didn't work on him, which kinda already proves my point.
3 likesSo there's really no room for discussion, have a good day. :)
@Brian Evans She was acting, dude. 29:21 "but damn it, she's someone's kid!"
7 likesPeople don't really throw "damn it" into the middle of a sentence like that. If she were trying to be an actor, I'd recommend some more lessons and a good writer, but this clearly got the job done.
The male interrogator did the same thing, really. He got emotional, tried to appeal to the suspect's sense of responsibility, of duty. The lady just came in to add the sense of a mother's fear to it all when he was pushed into a corner.
Gamesux - just kinda stupid to say her tactics were “unneeded” when they hadn’t received a confession yet, and her interrogation strategy led directly to the confession. Just seems like some would rather mock her than commend her for reasons I already stated.
11 likes@Gamesux Here we go, some internet random criticizing a professional's tactic that ended up working.
11 likes@Pablo Moysés it didn't, he wouldn't budge until they said they had evidence so don't "here we go" me.
3 likes@Dante Good it didn't work not until they said that they had evidence she literally said "cameras don't lie" that's what did it please stop talking for the love of god
4 likesIt was suppose to be uncomfortable.
3 likesI thought it was weird and annoying too
6 likes@Gamesux if you're a regular on this channel you know how hard it is for investigators to get a confession, even with overwhelming evidence. It's common to use different techniques. Also, they need to be careful so that the suspect don't stop the interrogation by asking for a lawyer. In the end, he didn't lawyer up and confessed. Both did a good job.
8 likesTahkeem Hilton2.0 I have one word for the last part of that comment: yikes!
2 likesHappy Wandered I'm curious if she made her emotional reaction seem so fake on purpose, to see how he'll respond to being looked down upon and emotionally manipulated
0 likesIKR right but I bet it was intentionally done that way she is a professional after all
2 likesIkr... That was so bad I might even confess if I was innocent just to make it stop
2 likesReally unprofessional
2 likesVaping Fury #vapefam
0 likesI thought she did a great job. It was so cringy that someone would want to admit to everything just to get her to shut up.
0 likesShe was a little annoying. Like sheesh she was the one who cracked before he did.
2 likesOf all these interrogation videos, Ive never seen a detective go from silently playing on her phone to being hysterical within 45 minutes.
1 like@antdgar Wow. Proud of yourself?
0 likes@Calico Catz She absolutely did. Thank you.
0 likesLIVERPOOL!!!!!!
1 like@antdgar TF is wrong with you.
0 likesImagine how weird and uncomfortable the suspect would have felt
0 likes@Tahkeem Hilton_2.0 yall r sum creeps, cant way to see ur investigation vid on this channel along with the 120+ that liked it
1 likethey have to like try techniques on guilty ppl, i think theyre we're doing that
0 likesBut it made him uncomfortable so it helped
0 likesThat's the whole point!!!!!!
0 likesYNWA
0 likesDetective: "So, how long have you known Savannah?"
657 likesLee: "When Mr. Bilbo Baggins of Bag End announced that he would shortly be celebrating his eleventy-first birthday with a party of special magnificence, there was much talk and excitement in Hobbiton.
Bilbo was very rich and very peculiar, and had been the wonder of the Shire for sixty years, ever since his remarkable disappearance and unexpected return. The riches he had brought back from his travels had now become a local legend, and it was popularly believed, whatever the old folk might say, that the Hill at Bag End was full of tunnels stuffed with treasure. And if that was not enough for fame, there was also his prolonged vigour to marvel at. Time wore on, but it seemed to have little effect on Mr. Baggins. At ninety he was much the same as at fifty. At ninety-nine they began to call him well-preserved, but unchanged would have been nearer the mark. There were some that shook their heads and thought this was too much of a good thing; it seemed unfair that anyone should possess (apparently) perpetual youth as well as (reputedly) inexhaustible wealth.
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you should write some books about it. they would make great movies, too. probably even get a ton of oscars.
40 likesBest one yet.
5 likes☠️
1 likeI'm upset with you. Where is the rest of this story?
3 likesYours was the best one 😚
2 likesThis is so awesome😂😂
0 likesHAVE to give a like for the humour of the comment of course, but also the length. That's dedication! Well played ol' chap. 🤣👨💻👏👏👏👏👏
0 likesThe female detective who was being very straight up and aggressive at the end, definitely helped a whole lot in this case. I can tell that it made him panic and know that theres no convincing her otherwise.
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@Edgyjeans yea female detective was fucking horrible she was getting too emotional it was only the fact that they had evidence that made him realize he was screwed and confess
102 likesId say she could use a bit more finesse that the male detective had. She was getting very emotional yet claimed to be a “fact finder” just like the much more nonchalant male detective. Although im not a criminal psychologist so maybe not
44 likes@Pyrohead i can also agree with that. She was probably too emotional. Still, i think she did good.
16 likes@Edgyjeans she was annoying, but idk I thought she did ok. Maybe not idk
7 likes@Bull Studalphamonster doesn’t matter she did what she had to do and played the role she had to. Y’all don’t do this job and have no idea what is needed I don’t understand how you think u can critique a person who has done this many times.
138 likes@Aria jackson Right? So many people in the comments bitching about her. She got the confession, what more do you need?
106 likes@Edgyjeans the interrogation worked either way, the pressure was too much for him, he cracked, and confessed. So i guess she wasn't that terrible was she?
77 likes@Tortoise Of Legends exactlyyyyy
4 likes@Anthony M yep
0 likes@Edgyjeans "oh no a female being good at her job and getting the confession i cant stand something like that thats not allowed"
92 likes@HuntedRanger "These emotional females getting confessions out of men. Oh no. So annoying."
76 likes@Tortoise Of Legends she got the confession? More like her partner did. Not to belittle her in the slightest but let's not act like she was alone in that room and her fake crying and getting too emotional and unprofessional is what made him confess.
3 likes@Dj_M1 its not any single thing that made him confess it was everything combined but emotional manipulation is very effective when used with correct timing and doing it correctly and thats what she did so she definitely played a major part in the confession
28 likes@HuntedRanger yeah I doubt that her being hysterical and fake crying made him confess it.
2 likes@Dj_M1 thats not what she did tho she didn't overreact that much and she was literally just trying to go for his humanity to make him regret everything she was emotionally manipulating him while he was already stressed which is why it worked
18 likesImagine her being the interrogator in Jennifer Pan’s case and she’d get nothing out of her. The dude was in trouble the moment he knew the footage incriminated him regardless of whoever may have told Lee about it.
3 likesExactly. Some of yall in the comments saying she should be fired as if they can do any better lmaoo, yall have no idea what was decided upon prior to the interrogation. Both detectives did their jobs and did them well!
26 likes@Cassidy Reis agreed
2 likes@Cassidy Reis exactly those detectives are professionals dont go give them shit when you yknow dont know shit about this sort of thing
7 likesThe people saying the female detective was awful and too emotional, although that is a common characteristic of female cops, I’m sure that was done intentionally. It probably made him think of his mother, or Savannah’s, begging him to help her. She was quite annoying, no doubt. She seemed impatient and annoyed at being there since she couldn’t stop looking at her phone.
6 likesI thought her approach was whiny and phony. The fake tears. The reverse psychology. I wasn’t buying it.
1 like@EnlightenedMcgee maybe because yknow you weren't the one being interrogated
10 likes@HuntedRanger I don’t know.
0 likes@Edgyjeans id thought that this was a planned thing, like to get her to be more emotional and appeal to his morality yk
9 likes@Edgyjeans I couldn't agree more! She brought zero value to this interrogation and was INCREDIBLY annoying!
2 likes@Bull Studalphamonster i think her being so emotional is what made him confess honestly. You can tell the guilt was eating him up at the end
9 likes@Moonstruck ☯️ I feel like she was the reason the confession part of the video was not released. She was showing too much emotions
1 like@Jenny Anderson i think that was on purpose. They had 90 minutes to get a plan and execute it. They knew what they where doing
3 likesPeople complaining about her need to realise that the persona the detectives put on is premeditated. Every action they make is decided.
3 likes@ everyone in these replies: how many of these jcs videos have you watched where they actually got a full confession with the location of the body?? I’ve seen most of them, and the answer is not many… now how can you say she’s bad at her job? you have no idea how it feels to be the suspect sitting there on the other side of her emotional manipulation. it’s probably unbearable to someone who actually experiences emotion unlike some of the socio and psychopaths we’ve seen, clearly he does based on the crying at the end.
3 likes@HuntedRanger imagine the male detective just randomly started crying and going I HAVE A DAUGHTEERR, you would either burst out laughing or question wtf is the point of that...
0 likesBut i still think it was on purpose, not just her having an emotional reaction. These interrogations are all planned so they do shit on purpose even if it looks stupid.
At least i hope so, if it wasnt then she shouldnt be an investigator lmao
You know what, i kinda chsnged my mind, it does look a bit stupid when you consider... if this is a succesful interrogation tactic, why isnt jt used like ever besides this case? You would think if jt works you would have a special female only unit of crying women available on demand in every police station, ready to burst into the interrogation room, surround the suspect and yell "WHERE IS XYZ? WHY DID YOU KILL HER? I HAVE A DAUGHTER HER AGE!!!!!!!!' all at once, screaming over eachother to add to the confusion.
0 likesIn all seriousness, if doing this was effective i would think we would see such technique used at some point, by female or even male detectives, abd im teying to imagine being in his position, from his oerspective it might feel different than from ours, but its hard not to cringe a bit
@Samantha Morgan im a guy lmao but its not about them being woman as you said but its just about that she is correctly emotionally manipulating him in this situation but people dont realize that because they dont know anything about interrogation
1 likeThe guy was being so calm unlike her and she was being on her phone for a lot of times she seemed unprofessional
0 likesI've just finished the video....Was she about to cry? And she started begging him lmao a what kind of detective does that
0 likes@Edgyjeans yup
0 likesNarrator speaks too fast I think but otherwise great vid
0 likesThese parents call after their grown child goes missing for 2 hours....Casey Anthony-toddler missing for 31 days & her mom calls! Gee if that doesn’t speak volumes idk what does!
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omg yes that poor girl
59 likes@florian negar It was probably the odd text messages they received that prompted them to call and then report her missing so quickly.I am an only child & I can tell you my mom was queen of the million pages & cell phones especially when I was younger & lived on my own in my own apartment lol idk of you have children & im not saying all parents will do this but worry is on a whole other level than any other kind when you have kids & something like this would and should prompt quick action. I just found the reaction to the two missing girls so drastically different because one had lots to hide & the other didn’t ya know?
141 likesShe didn’t even call. The grandmother did
37 likesGreat point. So awful
5 likesI’m very confused at what your saying as well as the responses. Are you trying to say it’s absurd for someone to call the cops after their child goes missing after a few hours just because they’re not under a certain age? I’m honestly lost
3 likes@florian negar
12 likesIt doesn’t bother me at all, better safe than sorry. If a person goes missing in a 24-hour period. Their chances off survival are slim.
@PITTSteelers76 I’m saying there’s a vast difference in the way things were handled which to me speaks for itself when it comes to a person that has something to hide vs someone that doesn’t. I’m personally used to being checked on & up until my later years-married with kids I was checked on a lot lol as an only female child to my parents & living alone at that for sometime. Some families are just like that. I’m not saying it’s never annoying but it’s certainly better than having no one to care! That’s how I’ve always looked at it
11 likesIt's because they got a strange text message
7 likes@florian negar thats normal for your family. For a family who actively communicates about their lives, and LIVES TOGETHER, it would be 100% unusual to receive a text like this out of nowhere
3 likesYeah I sometimes don’t talk to my mom for weeks at a time (I’m a terrible person, sorry Ma), but if she ever got a text from me like that she’d have the police on the line in minutes.
4 likes@florian negar So you seriously are saying it's normal for a mother not to call the police,or even not wonder where her daughter is after 31 days?
1 like@PITTSteelers76 Her comment wasnt hard to understand
1 likeStrange text messages that don't seem like they are from your loved one will arise suspicions.
4 likes@Kanye Breast The defense team for the Anthony case had the theory that the mother didn't call because she panicked and didn't know what to do after finding the child's dead body because she knew she'd committed negligence. Its a long shot, but is the most plausible explanation the defense could come up with. I could kinda understand hiding your mistake and staying silent in hopes no one would find out and as a type of self-denial. The prosecution's case was for murder which is much worse than negligence and requires a different type of evidence. Personally, I think it was murder, but I wasn't there. If the prosecution had filed for negligence, it would have been a slam dunk. I don't think they did though?
2 likes@Demi Lee in this life she did
0 likes@None yeah & Casey seemed so irritated by this. Meanwhile the grandmother is frantic! The way Casey should’ve been
0 likesCasey is lucky that trial took place when it did, if that happened in 2021 she'd easily get convicted in the court of public opinion and spend the rest of her life in prison...
1 like@David and when they tried to get ahold of her at work they said she didn’t show for her shift. Those things together would raise some alarms in my mind too.
1 like@Al Gore-ithm she was guilty as hell in the court of public opinion. It wasn’t THAT long ago.
3 likes@Carl Panzram this isnt the same, they got a message that she ran away of course they will call police and the message didnt even look like she wrote it
0 likesShe didn't call because she knew her kid had died. Probably drowned in the pool. I think she thought she could just bury Caylee and dodge the emotional super-nova of your child dying. She's "toxic positivity" and regular toxic taken to the extreme.
0 likes@Thegame .Dev that’s a great observation. It could’ve been pure denial or lying to oneself so much that you’ve convinced yourself the lies are the truths.
0 likes@Carl Panzram That's pretty pathetic lol
0 likesDang, what have you done to them?
You do realize that Casey killed Caylee right? You didn't expect her to call the cops after she killed someone or did You? 1k likes on this comment YOU gotta be kidding me.. this shows how little people are able to decode of these cases.
0 likes@David And that she hadn't showed up to work. That means She's Missing.
0 likes@Carl Panzram my parents would have put my bags on the porch and party if they got a text I ran away. They really suck though. Also.... Get better idols.
1 like@PITTSteelers76 they're saying it's absurd to wait for 31 days to report a toddler as missing.
2 likesBut there was good reason for it and different people respond to different situations. Plus she was only 21 dude that was 7 years ago I see them as kids.
0 likesThe only reason they called the cops were because of the texts he sent ... DUH
0 likes@Skelter I hate how he broke her neck and all of that extra violent shit. I understand him crying because he felt guilty and knew he would finish his life in prison but what he did pisses me off
0 likes@Carl Panzram me too man. I'm the black sheep in the extreme lol and I'm fine with it. They kinda suck tbh...
0 likes@Carl Panzram I'm the same way. I care about my family and I'm sure that they care about me but I don't talk to them for weeks, if not months, at a time. Not until a family gathering happens. I know many families are close as I see my fiancee is so close to her niece, like they're best friends. They talk and text constantly and it bothers me that they're so close. Mostly because they tend to end up spending more time together than I do with my own fiancee.
0 likesI know that it's pretty normal behavior and that I'm just likely the abnormal one, but still...
As you said, if I go missing, almost nobody would know for at least several days. As a side note, while I talk to many people, I don't like to keep friends. I'm not anti-social. I get along with everybody and people always want to hang out but I politely decline as I am a homebody and like my alone time and my bed more.
When I was 6 I was at a girls house for like 1 hour and I get home and there are police everywhere
0 likesCan’t believe she didn’t get convicted for that. Horrible person.
0 likesIt's because they had text messages that were obviously not from her, otherwise they would have had to wait the typical amount of time.
0 likesWell her toddler was never missing🤷🏾♂️
0 likesWatching that footage of Lee breaking down when he's left on his own oddly woke an old memory in me. When I was 16, I left my 3 beloved lizards out on the balcony so they could sunbathe. I had just gotten them two days prior. Only I was incredibly stupid and put them out in a small plastic container on the hot ground. I had only meant to leave them for 5 minutes or less, - I ended up leaving them for 30 minutes. By the time I remembered, I ran back out in a panic - and found they had died from heatstroke. The blacony ground was of a material that heated up so much it would burn your feet in a second. I will never forget their little faces with the tongue hanging out... For the next half hour, I basically acted like Lee in that room. Only with a lot more screaming and alot more tears. I remember running as far away from the balcony as I could - to the basement. I remember even scratching my wrists to relief some of the emotional pain. I kept screaming things like "god, please don't let this be true" even tho I am not religious at all. And I remember wishing to turn back time. To wake up. And so on. For me, it was incredible guilt and I kept screaming the little lizard's names and that I was sorry. I don't remember when I calmed down, I think I may have been so exhausted I just lay in bed and fell asleep... I have never felt something like this that so strongly again. Also I never tried keeping a lizard after that, feeling too guilty... That being said, I hope Lee didn't just feel sorry for himself there and the fact that he apologizes to Savannah was genuine... that is just the part of me that always wants to see the good in people... deep down...
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I'm sorry for the loss of your lizard pets
54 likesYour story makes me cry... I feel so horrible for you, that you had to go through that... I hope you don’t still blame yourself. It was an awful mistake, but you would never have hurt those lizards on purpose. I know the point of your comment wasn’t to get pity, but I just want to give you a big hug. I’m sorry this happened to you :(
40 likesI once caught a snake in the grass and was playing with it, very hot summer day in Texas, asphalt was scorching, I set the snake down on the asphalt to let it go, it instantly froze stiff and died...I learned that day about cold-blooded animals.
17 likesi had to pause the vid to read your comment..
6 likessorry for your pet...
but danm, thats really a story to tell
I remember one time as a kid I spilled some milk and felt bad about it. I hope I didn't just tell an irrelevant story just to add to the conversation and akwardly try to tie it to the video.
5 likesSo sorry - you made me cry, our pets trust us for their lives, and when we let them down we can't tell them sorry.
2 likesI'm sorry to hear that man. I carry a somewhat similar guilt with me today. My precious girl, my parrot who helped me through some of the toughest times in my life, flew away and didn't come back one day. I figured she would never leave me, that she would just sit with me like always, but not that day. That day, she flew towards the sparrows, who have a similar chirp, and I guess she couldn't find her way back again. I can't stop blaming myself. Sometimes it catches me of guard, the overwhelming guilt and emotions I feel when I think about it for a long time. I just wish I could go back, tell myself not to open the bird cage outside, to just play with her indoors.... But I have to live with it.
4 likesThough unlike you, I ended up overcompensating for my failure, and ended up with 7 birds in my home at one point. I thought it was the only way to stop the guilt and fill the hole in my life, but of course that's not how it works. I love them too of course, but it still hurts. I loved her, Luna, a lot, and still do.
birdgvee , WOW, your story includes parts evidencing that you need psychological help. The part of you harming yourself “scratching” is most telling.
0 likesNo, he didn't feel remorse. He is currently trying to appeal under stand your ground laws, and is trashing her memory by claiming she was high and attacked him, even though the autopsy clearly shows no drugs in her system.
1 likeI'm sorry that you have to live with this memory. You were only a child, and you were trying to be helpful to your new pets. You can let the guilt go.
Aw honey. I just want to give you the biggest hug. 😢 I understand COMPLETELY.
7 likesWhen I was about 6 or 7 I was playing in my backyard when I found I robin’s nest way high up on a branch perched precariously. I was a stupid kid and all I can remember is how badly I wanted to see the nest and find any baby birds. So I took a tennis ball and started tossing it up to knock the nest down and I thought I could catch it. Spoiler alert: I couldn’t. I didn’t understand what I was doing! I just kept tossing it and tossing it until, eventually, I hit it. And it fell so fast I couldn’t believe it. It smashed to the ground before I could even blink. I was shocked. I ran up to the crime scene. Scared out of my mind. “No, no, no, please god no, this can’t be happening,” I thought.
And inside were two tiny baby birds, just hatched, and one unhatched little blue egg. The egg was smashed. I could see the yolk. One baby bird lay still. The other wriggled slightly. I frantically picked up the little bald baby and sobbed as it peeped weakly one last time in my hands and then lay still. I had never cried so hard in my life. My mind was frantic and just repeating “What have I done?!” And “No no no no no!” Over and over. I was partially in denial. I felt like a monster. I felt the guilt run through my like a cold river. So cold it was burning. I was so young but this is one of the most vivid memories. It’s insane. I remember every bit!
In the end I ran inside to my daddy who was taking a nap in the recliner and just jumped on his lap sobbing. “I’m sorry! I’m sorry!” He was so confused and alarmed! I was a quiet, well behaved kid so this was WAY out of the norm for me. I then guiltily explained my heinous crime. He just hugged me and then went with me outside, grabbed a shovel, and helped me give them a proper burial. I love my dad. He helped me find a little closure and learn from the event.
So you see these are horrible events that unfortunately just sometimes happen. Me and my birds and you and your lizards. Don’t feel guilty. I know it’s hard. I’m 25 and I still feel awful! But you have to tell yourself you are no criminal. It was an accident! We’re certainly not “Lee Rodarte.” Think of your guilt as a sign that you are HUMAN and have EMPATHY and real EMOTIONS for other living things! That’s a great quality! 💕👍🏻
HE, on the other hand, felt nothing. No remorse. FOR A HUMAN BEING. Not even a lizard or a baby bird, AN ACTUAL PERSON! He cares about no one but himself. I can’t even begin to imagine how a person like that lives with themselves. Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk. 😘😅
That's uh... quite the remorse tale. I felt really bad when a small fish died due to me not cleaning his bowl. But this takes the cake.
1 likeSee, you felt deep remorse and grief for unintentionally killing your pets. You felt for them.
1 likeThis Lee guy is not you. He doesn't feel guilt for killing the young woman. He feels remorse over the fact that his life as he knows it is over.
You "just got them two days prior" but they were your "beloved" lizards? Story sounds like BS.
0 likesdetective: “one day when you have kids” knowing damn well this guy’ll probably be in jail for life 😂
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😂😂 they’re messed up
24 likesChances are he'll be the kid there. Probably has to call someone daddy.
33 likesHe also told him “I’ll be right back” then didn’t come back for an hour and a half
32 likes😂😂
1 like“One day when you have kids” for whatever we believe we have to presume him innocent before trial.
2 likesThat was cold
2 likesI thought that was another slick way of trying to convince lee this wasn’t that big a deal. Like even if he goes to jail he could have a life, even though as you said he knew that shit wasn’t going to happen 😂
5 likesForreal😹😹😹😹
0 likesIt's 2nd degree murder at best. It wasn't premeditated. The self talk at the end proves that. Though he's kind of screwing that up by going with the outrageous self defense angle. He probably could have pleaded down to manslaughter and got out in 20 or less. It's why you always talk to a lawyer.
4 likesPrison
0 likesWhy would he be in jail for life? Wouldn't he transfer to a prison after sentencing?
0 likes@Jimmy M your right
1 likeI didnt even realize.... damn.... got him
0 likeshaha. Bundy had kids in prison tho
0 likesI was thinking the same exact thing lmao
0 likesHoly shit. I felt that second hand anxiety when that detective walked in and Lee immediately recognized him. Jesus christ. These videos are great motivation to never commit a crime LOL
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for real life is so stress free when u dont kidnap or murder ppl lmaooo
15 likesI should really stop serial killing, these interrogations do look pretty intense to deal with!
14 likes@Maxtreme cut it out already, you crazy kid!
2 likes@Maxtreme excuse me huh
0 likesDetective, “So, how long have you known Savannah”
462 likesLee: “ I feel that there is much to be said for the Celtic belief that the souls of those whom we have lost are held captive in some inferior being, in an animal, in a plant, in some inanimate object, and so effectively lost to us until the day (which to many never comes) when we happen to pass by the tree or to obtain possession of the object which forms their prison. Then they start and tremble, they call us by our name, and as soon as we have recognised their voice the spell is broken. We have delivered them: they have overcome death and return to share our life….”
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Me reading this whole thing while listening to a police interrogation in the background: 👁👄👁
2 likesFor anyone wondering, he plead guilty to 2nd degree murder and sentenced to 40 years in prison with credits for time served.
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thx for the information mate
48 likes@SchockerGD balsa wood
3 likesso he will be released when he is 75
14 likes@daniel Cyr in theory, yes
4 likesI feel like he manages to regain his humanity back at the very last second. 40 years in prison might be a bit too long for him.
28 likes@Qopa I mean you could be right but I guess the law is the law, judge might’ve not think that. At least he gets those credits
6 likesThanks
1 likeHe doesn't deserve that
3 likes40 is steep for what appears to be a spontaneous crime "of passion," even with time served and parole. Impossible to feel sympathy for him, though, obviously.
26 likes@wildcardNS “appears to be” honestly he was probably already imagining this ever since he parked in that parking lot
8 likes@Sebas410 I really don't think so. They talked for 14 minutes. It wasn't until she got in the car that things escalated. We'll never know for sure, but when he's talking to himself he says something like "you should have just asked her to leave you alone," I really don't think he planned to kill her until it happened in a blind rage. Drugs, fear of losing your job, sexual drama, all of this can fuel a rage state that's difficult to think through. It's why cops' most feared calls are domestic disturbances.
25 likes@sneakybeaver life for 2nd degree murder? It's not like he planned it out ahead of time
9 likes@daniel Cyr Could be out earlier - many states will reduce the time based on "good behavior".
4 likes@Michael Damato i doubt after the minimum 25 year that he will sail smoothly, they dont do good really on bad behaviour of murder charges
2 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone your username speaks for itself lol
7 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone yes very unique indeed so unique absolutely breathtaking how unique you really are agreed yes
8 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone Expressing yourself in a totally inappropriate way with no relevance to the subject at all... get help.
8 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone just the way he didn’t show mercy to that poor girl, right?
6 likesAre you saying they were harsh on him? Death penalty is a fitting punishment.
7 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone I smell a troll... (WTF has anything said got to do with ableism? )
11 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone Where is any inkling of evidence of police brutality in this story? Did they entrap him? Did they beat him? Did they force a confession? None of these things occurred so "police brutality" cannot be considered here and is totally irrelevant...
8 likesIf you are not a troll you have serious issues to deal with...
@mydemonswontleavemealone bro wtf are you talking about? There's no police brutality in this video.. and as someone who has spent every year of their life since turning 14 trying to dodge and stay away from cops as much as possible, I still know defunding them would be a horrible move. I'm no cop advocate and hate dealing with them even though only like half that I've dealt with are the "drunk with power" type of cops, but defunding police would help nothing. In my town there are like 30 plus openings for city police officers due to no one wanting to take the job, and I don't blame them. They don't get paid enough to take the risk of getting publicly crucified every time they are forced to use deadly force to protect their lives. Not saying all are justified but some of the ones ppl have blown up on definitely were. You resist and fight with the police, you roll the dice
5 likes@Qopa can he bring her back with it? no!
1 like@mydemonswontleavemealone I understand that entrapment is an issue...but that is not the case here...
3 likesOh shit, just posted above, I didnt even see this comment! Thank you for posting, as soon as I heard trial 2020 I googled.
0 likes@Gamerren Chris watts doesn’t deserve his sentence
0 likes@Qopa manages to gain back his humanity by crying about a chef outfit haha
1 like@wildcardNS yeah I agree with you 100%. Sad situation. Don’t get violent no matter how appropriate it may seem in the moment, it’s not worth it having your and others lives ruined over an argument.
0 likesSebas410 Thanks for the meaningful info
0 likes@Qopa what?
0 likesThx!
0 likesThank you.
0 likes@wildcardNS doesn’t change the fact that he took a young life
0 likesWhen is he eligible for parole?
0 likes@Qopa how did he gain his humanity back? When he went to court he lied and said he was so scared the tiny little girl was gonna hurt him he snapped her neck like a twig. Once again blaming his victim who he had been slandering after murdering.
0 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone stop running away from the responsibility of your words
1 likeI still think murder warrants a death penalty. Why does the motive matter? Slaughtering someone like they're an animal shows such a careless regard for humanity that you forsake any of your own dignity.
0 likes@Phatty Bacon I see your point however, the motive matters because it shows the degree of the disregard for humanity they had. A pre-meditated murderer has a complete disregard as they are considering the negative aspects of murder and still do it (all in a period of time). A person killing someone else on the spot is going on an emotional drive and not carefully considering what murder implies. That is why the motive matters, one disregards humanity more than the other
1 like@mydemonswontleavemealone this guy kills someone and gets convicted and you’re rambling about defunding the police? Dear god, please dont vote. People will think you are a Democrat and judge us for your nonsensical thoughts.
0 likes@mydemonswontleavemealone being a bigot means that you have constant hate flowing through your heart, which i have seen here very clearly
0 likesYeah, he talked to the detectives for 40 years😂..that was everybody timed served😂😂
0 likesThat female detective is a bad actress!! Ha ha
0 likesthe text message was literally all i needed to see "hey um btw i met someone and im never coming home again aight bye" lmao wtf, why did he think that would work ?
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Imagine what's going to happen when guys like him, and the Nigerian scammers, and the Jamaican Posse learn to use "Grammarly" and actually spell normal.
100 likesBc then the police couldnt file a missing person report if there was evidence she ran away
9 likes@Dwight st. john - Funny you bring up Nigeria.. I just met this great girl last night online that went down to Nigeria for vacation, and she got stuck there cause of covid. I sent her some money for a plane ticket, and she should be getting here tonight. Im gonna wait for her at the airport. Im so happy!!!
101 likesHer spelling was pretty bad 2, but thats ok. You're probably just jealous cause we're in love now!
The Full Rodarte...never do it.
4 likesSchmeeda was here
Duece Staine literally no (good) police officer would look at that and think “case closed” and the parents certainly wouldn’t let it go with just this text message. it was too obviously fake.
5 likesBone fish benefits must be off the charts, lmao!
8 likesSending no message at all and just tossing her phone in the ocean would have been infinitely smarter.
8 likes@Kelly Andersen with like 10,000 pictures no less
2 likes@suprcrzy how'd your date go?
5 likesThat was actually pretty good strategy, he was trying to delay the missing report, since she was an adult she had the right to leave... The only problem is she hadn't the cellphone with her when he killed her...
1 likeMight adjust the rabbit 🐇 👂 unless wiga albaino nigerian, haven't been dm or emailed by nigeria since thaf scammer sent me a selfie to make the random deliveries stop to his geo jeeped lagos residence
1 likeSome times. People do run away.
0 likes@Vaxxed Nezuko not like that they don't
3 likesI think he was trying to make her family think she ran off with some drug dealer.
1 likeThat literally tripled the police response time
4 likesWhat a fool 😂😂
0 likes@Duece Staine Right, people are allowed to run away. Running away with no evidence and people look into it. Create obvious evidence but this bad, people are still going to look into it.
1 like@suprcrzy hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
2 likesHe was probably panicking
0 likesHe’s clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer 😂
2 likes@suprcrzy wow congratulations
1 likePanic. Plain and simple.
0 likesHe was trying to sound high.
0 likesFemale detective Natalie Portman going for the Oscar.
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For.Real.
21 likesS'arah Triel so fake until you are in that situation, and besides, if it isn’t broken there’s no need to fix it, the strategy worked
129 likes@S'arah Triel But it worked and that's what matters
51 likes@The Master of Whispers I dont believe he did confess, i believe he sort of half confessed to something roughly related to something and their claiming it was a ful confession so they arent showing the crucial point of the video.
14 likes@The Master of Whispers If you don't know a damn thing about the procedure don't make an arse of yourself criticising professionals who successfully got a confession.
8 likesHe just killed a woman, does he really care about the female officer's feelings?
26 likes@S'arah Triel totally made it easier for this guy to lie some more. He didn't confess because of her screeching. And he didn't confess the truth anyway.
9 likesCody Ingram because they ARE human... evil isn’t born it’s made through pain, trauma and loneliness. When they say this, it’s to subconsciously trigger whatever shred of humanity they still have
14 likesCan I get Natalie Portman to arrest me and use enhanced interrogation techniques on me?👹
2 likesNo, not making light of the missing girl at all...but I can't say the idea of Natalie Portman interrogating me in a mean way wouldn't appeal to me.
0 likes@Test Rabbit you would have to be pro Isreal or an anthropogenic climate change denier for that to happen.
1 likeYeah was a bit cringey but it worked lol
7 likesIronically, when I searched for lee rodarte on wikipedia, the first result was the actress natalie Portman. Wtf
0 likes@The Master of Whispers they found the body where he said it was in the state he said it was. Must be real enough
0 likesLol. Really.
0 likesASK FOR A LAWYER.
1 likeI'm not lying. Yeah not at all.
0 likesVideo tape is not enough evidence.
0 likesKC Nicky AGREED! should had never said ANYTHING except I WANT A LAWER
1 likeCringe performance. Yup, sounds like an Oscar all right.
7 likesCringe lol
4 likesThought she was more of an Anne Hathaway personally...
1 likeMore of a chef's shirt than a coat I'd say
0 likesI dont agree. I think she became too emotional. This would compromise the pressure the male detective had going.
6 likes@The Master of Whispers A question for the likes of every serial killer in history. It's terrifying what one person can do in a confined space.
0 likes@jacktsang05 actually no they were clearly working in tandem.
7 likesYou can clearly see her tap his foot when she needs him to stop talking and he obliges her.
They had planned the emotional woman act (yes it was all an act) perhaps to remind him of Savannah or her mother (so he feels like he's confessing to them and not a detective).
She actively reminded him of her being a mother (again to invoke Savannahs mother) as the concerned mother is easier to confess to than the police detective who can throw you in prison, hence why she "interrupts" the more traditional detective.
The fact that he so instantly regretted confessing suggested to me that he wouldn't have done so, so easily to a traditional detective where the stakes are clearer and the emotions less heightened.
Remember shes a professional detective not an "emotional woman" but i guess people still have an issue with stereotypically feminine behaviour in the police force even when its highly effective.
She's so god damn annoying. She's a terrible detective...
13 likes@Disc or Dye Nah, she isn't. She's an incredibly smart detective and with her colleague she fucking nailed this killer. Her acting was shit and she shouldn't try that over the top empathy bit again with anybody who has an IQ higher than Rodarte's. But aside from that cringeworthy performance, she's a badass and a way better interrogator than most homicide investigators in this country. Seriously. Think of all the shitty ass police departments across the country who don't have anywhere near the resources that a city as large as Jacksonville has. Check out the podcast Bear Brook if you want to hear about some absolutely terrible police work when it comes to homicide investigations in towns in Minnesota. I hate Jacksonville so I'm not trying to promote their police or anything but I feel the need to defend this woman who is very good at her job. Smart cops deserve praise from us even though they are certainly in the minority. Nonetheless, FILM EVERY COP AND DEFUND THE POLICE! November 3 is coming soon, y'all. Let's flip the fucking senate and get to work.
11 likes🤣🤣
1 like@Disc or Dye Hell yeah. Like you could hear him getting annoyed just from hearing her voice.
4 likes@arbj you're wrong about that; it actually worked
2 likes@Erika Bennett kk
0 likes@S'arah Triel kkk
0 likesCome on bro.. her acting is way better than natalie portman
0 likesS'arah Triel agreed. It seems really fake but I think when you're under that pressure Nicolas Cage is as good an actor as Tom Cruise
0 likesShe can interrogate me..anytime!
0 likesI think she's really effective. That kind of emotionalism is scary as hell when you're confronted, I'd imagine. Think of seeing someone crying, you want to stop it. May seem cringy, but damn, it worked
5 likesDamn you are so right
0 likesShe was so annoying
5 likes@Cody Ingram They try that route because it can be effective. Not all killers are psychopaths without empathy, some people kill because they lose control and snap in a highly emotional situation. These types of killers often feel bad for what they did and that's why appealing to their humanity might work, it makes it easier for them to admit to something they're ashamed of. Also, looking at an interrogation from the outside, it's very easy to spot all these tactics that the detectives employ. But when you're in that situation and you know you're guilty, you're in a very vulnerable and stressful emotional state and the detectives are slowly increasing the pressure, making it difficult to think clearly. This stress can become so unbearable that confessing seems like the best way to get out of this situation. It is highly effective which is also why there's an issue with false confessions.
1 like🚔👀🤡🐷🐷
0 likesMandi Tierney so what is your career
0 likesYou look familiar...
0 likesShe completely ruins the interrogation. She doesn't let the suspect talk. She's way too dramatic and emotional.
5 likesThe other detective is doing a great job. And she stepped in to almost ruin it.
Luckily they had him dead to rights already.
@SkenderTV did we even see her face?
0 likesDetective: “So how long have you known Savannah"
6926 likesLee: "ahh, that puts me in mind of a tale"
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33 likeshope your new year’s resolution goes well
4 likesHe is on Adderall
25 likes@Jacob Hively Ironic, right? I take Adderall to curb excessive talking due to my ADHD. But when someone without ADHD takes Adderall, it causes them to talk excessively. It's tough to determine whether the Adderall made him talk, the guilt made him talk, or maybe he had undiagnosed ADHD (like myself for 33 years) and the Adderall actually curbed the steady stream of consciousness.
49 likesDetective: "So how long have you known Savannah?"
66 likesLee: "Years ago I was Chinese..."
I am german and dont really know what this means? can someone explain🤔
6 likes"Four score and..."
13 likes@gänsefüßchen thai hi neighbour! I'm Dutch haha. I couldn't really explain. I just tried to type a explanation but it won't help you I think haha. He is referring to the suspect telling a whole long ass story after just one simple question. I think it comes down to that.
27 likes@gänsefüßchen thai When the police ask a simple question like "How do you know that person?", the usual response is short: "We work together" or "We went to high school together"; Something short and simple. It's funny that when this guy was asked how he knew Savannah, he answered it like like he was asked to write a 20 page story about their entire relationship.
23 likesahh alright 🙈thank you😊
8 likes@Johan Thank you yes now I understand 😄
7 likesLMAOOOO
1 like@gänsefüßchen thai it is the emoji for "thinking face"
2 likes😂😂😂😂
1 likeLove this comment ! 🤣🤣👌🏾👌🏾
2 likes@gänsefüßchen thai It's a random quote, to describe how Lee Rodarte is deflecting the conversation to anything other than the question he is being asked. Talking without purpose or meaning,
2 likesHi Matt!
1 likeAyy there he is
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0 likes@Dabble_Dooya75 hloogan
0 likesSteroids cause excessive talking,too.So does cocaine.
2 likes@HunterG_YT lmao, the "Lee"
0 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likes@JJ Yup, for many (myself included), that's the hyperactive element. I never considered myself physically hyperactive, but it was pointed out that the hyperactivity can be internal (especially mentally hyperactive), which comes out as excessive talking and fidgetting/toe-tapping, etc (all of which I absolutely do).
1 likeTriangle chime music kicks in 🎵🎶🎵🧐🤔
0 likes@HunterG_YT "so how long ago have you known Savannah?"
1 likeLee: "my dog stepped on a bee"
@Alex A Come up with your own comments.
0 likes@Alex A OK that seriously made me lol 😆
1 likeHe killed her over a stupid job, WTH a Job, you ruined your life and took another person's life for WHAT a job.
0 likes"Innocent people tend to give short answers"
1126 likesGenuinely talkative people: 👁️ 👄 👁️
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11 likesHahaha
5 likesGuess I'm sus
24 likesyea, the short awnser reaponse isnt legit
2 likesEven talkative people understand when to shut up. Talkative people aren't dumb they just like to talk.
8 likesRemember it says ‘tends to’. Does not mean you are guilty just cause you gave a long answer
2 likesAlso, wouldn't anyone get nervous when being interrogated at a police station regardless of guilt or innocence? lol
4 likeshonestly this made me freakout bc im autistic and as a child my mom told me to always tell me the whole story bc i used to say fragmented nonsense information, so usually when people just ask me a simple question, i explain the whole story of just one simple answer JHSDHJASD AND I RLY CANNOT TURN IT OFF I JUST PROVED MY POINT ON THIS COMMENT ITSELF
2 likesI would be taken to fucking jail 🤡 I don’t feel like I’ve answered properly unless I cover the context, relevance, and my point in saying it. I’m also prone to going on tangents if prompted... genuinely, I am long-winded and apparently guilty.
2 likesInnocent people also don't normally commit murder.
2 likes@Cloud Hwa it's a known trait of autism, as long as the fragments make sense when put together in the right order you don't have to worry, the only time it would be an issue is if you was lying and the fragments changed or the whole story didn't add up
2 likesLiterally yes! I was thinking the same thing! I'm like, but what if I'm just talkative and want to be thorough with my response 🥲
1 like@Cloud Hwa I feel that bro, im the same way
1 likeAdditionally:
2 likes“It’s because guilty people are looking for approval”
People who need approval from everyone: 👁 👄 👁
@Cloud Hwa Just because someone is talkative like that doesn't mean they're lying. Like how if someone has a runny nose, they probably have a cold. Or it could just be allergies. Its not conclusive.
0 likesI’ve always had an issue with rambling and going on tangents. I’m really bad at talking so I always throw up a lot of random words, hope they make sense, and then piece together what I can when I’m done.
1 likeIf I’m ever a suspect in a crime, I better have a good alibi or I’m fucked.
@Elodie Johnstone LOL, good addition
0 likesIf a detective is literally begging me to tell them something it would make me think that they don't have a case unless I open my mouth.
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I agree. I felt that the lady was hindering the interrogation if anything. She’d also talk over the other detective a lot which was frustrating
346 likesExactly. I just wrote a whole dang comment about how bad women are at interrogations. Pleading and begging? No. The male investigator did good work, without him she would've gotten nowhere. The other interrogation where the woman was beyond cringy, whiny, begging and pleading was the case in Canada where the Chinese gamer killed his elderly neighbors. So far Tammy Lee from the C Watts case is the only female interrogator worth her salt.
105 likes@K kitty Cat kat what a misogynistic take
443 likes@K kitty Cat kat have you seen the case of steven mcdaniel? the interrogators were men and they we're absolutely fucking awful, the only thing they did that interrogation was shame him for not washing his clothes and not having friends
307 likesAhhh, but you see?. . they Did get to where they needed to be for Lee to confess.
36 likes@K kitty Cat kat How bad women are at interrogations??? Don’t do that.
97 likes@K kitty Cat kat this is very much pick me energy.. lmao
123 likesFist time I’ve seen interrogator cry for a confession
12 likes@K kitty Cat kat bruh that was planned as you heard in the beginning “it is rehearsed” and the male investigator gave three knocks on the table for her to start crying. Or gain sympathy. 😐
80 likesi think her emotion was great and whether u can admit it or not it did help him admit it. she was A LOT though like if he didn’t say anything he probably would’ve been fine
20 likes@David Her remains were at his house. They had evidence to show she never got out of his car at the parking lot, So a judge would have issued a search warrant to his house. They would have had a case on him but it may have been more difficult to get him a long sentence.
13 likesExactly. It is putting the suspect in a position of power where they will feel like he has the advantage in the situation. I don't really understand why the female detective decided to go with this technique... I guess it worked in the long run, but it's still kind of odd.
8 likesYep.
0 likesYep pretty much!
0 likesAround 30:15, I wonder if the detective is begging and pleading, saying “I know you’re not evil” to possibly trigger the suspect by reminding him of the victim’s pleas before he killed her. If she was, it’s pretty brilliant. Bring him back to that moment where he took another human being’s life, bringing his guilt and emotions to a peak where he may just break down and confess.
27 likes@K kitty Cat kat omg I remember this women she did my fucking head in and also got him a nice sandwich during interrogation. 🧀💀
1 likeHe definitely could have beat this. All he had to do was 🤐🤫
2 likesThat’s the whole point, so you can under estimate us.
5 likes@H R if he was strangling her I dont think she'd be saying anything near that if at all. But it worked to get him to break so effective I guess.
3 likes@Zeus Almighty but most people who commit crimes or even those whom are innocent, dont think " i should shut up and get a lawyer." Instead They think I'll just tell them everything i think they would want to hear or my innocent side of the story and I'll be fine. They think talking puts them in a good spot to look like they are being honest and could had never committed the crime they are suspected of. All your doing when you answer questions is setting your self up. Innocent or guilty. Everything you say is being analyzed and applied to the crime by these police. innocent or not you've given them some kinda data to be applied and some times manipulated to fit their narrative of what they think happened even if they could be wrong. Never talk to the police in these situations. Getting a lawyer and remaining silence is not an admission of guilt, it's just you protecting your self from being misrepresented by what you said to Leo's.
5 likes@war32mec eyes can say a lot. And it’s possible she broke away at some point to say “please no, stop” or something, strangling someone to death takes several minutes.
6 likes@H R very true. And I didn't think about the struggle that shook the car before she was killed where she could had been pleading and begging as well. Either way it worked and resonated with him and caused him to confess.
3 likes@River Bleu Yes, completely ignore whether the statement might be factual or not...that does not enter into the PC society
0 likesCause youre not guilty, he was. That weighs on you man. There putting pressure on him from two sides the nice dude and the hysterical lady
2 likes@K kitty Cat kat Your comment is incredibly dumb. This investigator obtained a confession. We didn't even see the moments of the final confession, the break could have been entirely by her initiative, yet in you misogynistic world view you haven't even afforded the benefit of that doubt, you preferred to choose a male hero. She is clearly working effectively with her partner in a coordinated manner, they have practiced and are even using signals amongst themselves. I agree I was surprised to see that amount of pleading as it could signify weakness to the criminal and give them confidence, but it could also press a question that the criminal can't be afforded escape from, or it could have any other plethora of effects on this man which this woman was evidently very attuned to. You have seen a few JCS and think you know every element of interrogation. It takes years of practice to perform well on the spot, a single word or gesture could alter the interrogation, different lines of questioning have different outcomes that can't be objectively evaluated, the only standard of evaluation is whether or not it works, and it worked. This woman is literally sitting in a high profile murder interrogation after years of professional success in her career. I wish JCS would do a video on how dumb you are to think you know more than this murder investigator #Dunning–Kruger effect.
25 likes@K kitty Cat kat literally had nothing to do with her being female. I think it was only pointed out to be able to tell which one they were referencing
11 likes@K kitty Cat kat my initial response watching this is similar for this lady, but you have to think clearly. If you've ever tried lying to authority before this is actually very effective, when someone is so insistent about knowing the truth it is debilitating because you feel like they are inside your head, and they know what you know. If I've felt that for lying about stealing or some petty shit, then imagine how it would feel in the case of murder. I get its annoying to watch but when you're actually there it can make you crumble.
3 likeshowever, I will say that they basically revealed their hand too early. They could have exhausted everything before getting to this point, and the way they worked together was counterintuitive almost. Like she would say "I know she didn't get out of your car, just tell. the truth" and the guy would immediately back track and say "were not saying you did anything, just tell us what you know" like TF? that's not a strategy like people would think it's a failure to commit to one homogenous narrative, which indicated they have a weak position. So yea, my only critique is that they should have exhausted everything beforehand before getting to this point, and the execution of it wasn't very organic imo. But as the guy says the suspect is very charismatic, and so maybe he was too confident and too quick on his feet to play games with, for example the self-inflicted part was pretty good imo, that to me would indicate that it's going to be hard to trick him.
then again idk shit I'm just procrastinating from exams
@Al Wilson miss boy there are several people here who share my sentiments and explain exactly why. Women are not bad at interrogations, they get confessions from people everyday. Just because one woman was bad during an interrogation does not mean she reflects all women. There are plenty of male detectives who have botched interrogations.
4 likesI think they were betting that the victim was begging in a similar manner. The interrogation takes place the same time of day as the crime, too.
3 likes@River Bleu Pretty bad they have to many "women moments"
0 likes@K kitty Cat kat big #imnotlikeothergirls energy
3 likes@K kitty Cat kat Women pretty much aren't built for interrogations. I noticed it as well, and its a common theme in many cases. Kudos to you for sticking to your opinion, and not letting the typical virtue signaling, shaming, and gas lighting of the NPC's here change it
0 likes@Sarah how can you say she was hindering the interrogation when the suspect admitted his guilty shortly after.
2 likes@JustPlaying All women are bad at interrogation does NOT mean all men are good. If only you were capable of critical thinking.
0 likes@K2ggers What are you saying? did you even read what i said?
0 likes@David But they did? I mean the confession would only seal the deal and make the case easier, if he didn’t say anything they’d still have something to work with
1 like@Masha A. Thanks for pointing it out, now I think you're not like the other girls
0 likes@Anónimo Rojo You on about what exactly
0 likes@Masha A. is this a joke?
0 likes@Anónimo Rojo I responded to someone else you the one jumping the gun
0 likes@Masha A. And that other person responded to someone else and so on, what's your point? plus, in first place, you were the one speaking about "#i'mnotlikeothergirls" and trying to criticize her just for saying facts about the case... And you're saying that I'm the one jumping the gun 😂😂😂
0 likes@Anónimo Rojo wig
0 likesDude she was in full control. If it induced a cringe reaction in you so did it in the suspect. At a blink she was able to switch meaning it was an act.. it's called mind games.
6 likes@K kitty Cat kat and you were so proud to admit that wow
1 like@David that´s why you don´t talk to anybody without a lawer !
0 likesI think they were trying to guilt-trip him into confessing. He'll let his guard down and if he pities her he'll be less likely to antagonize her and more likely to talk.
1 like@K kitty Cat kat and you've been a Police detective for how long? These guys pull these routines all the time.
3 likesLmao and that’s why you aren’t a detective huh
1 likeYeah but keep in mind that they already found him to be a liar and the one who drove her away for the last time. Easily enough to get a search warrant and convict him. The only valuable info left would've been if she was alive.
0 likesI like the person who said, "Stop watching crime shows" and follows it up with go watch Silence of the Lambs. Just beautiful!
0 likes@Sarah I think it was intended to fluster the killer. Showing a woman begging him to do something would bring back strong memories.
0 likes@moodyflowers I know I'm supposed to take offense to these weak insults, but Ad hominems aren't an argument. You can try again or keep crying though.
0 likesThey already got him on video. They know he got her. He just had to say how she was I guess? (Dead)
0 likes@K kitty Cat kat thats awfully sexist of you.
1 like@K kitty Cat kat Lmao. Look how mad people respond. Not a single person can tell you why you're wrong, they just get angry. That's how you know you're right.
0 likes@Al Wilson the statement isn't factual and is based entirely within stereotypes
0 likesi agree. i thought this at first but it seemed to be getting at him since he looked more emotional as she kept begging. seems like it worked well to appeal to his emotions, otherwise i'm sure they would try a different approach if it wasn't working.
1 likeYou have no idea what it would make you think
0 likes@Sarah literally that tactic was rehearsed, and it earns a confession in only a couple minutes
0 likes@runamoto i love generalizing
0 likes@sydney you guys have literally one joke. can y’all come up with something better
0 likes@Cathy Sandoval you guys have literally two words in your vocabulary and thats "energy" and "pick me"
0 likes@sydney yawn
0 likesThe female police officer's ULTRA-CALCULATED hysterics are amazing.
321 likesYou can tell she is really getting under the guy's skin.
Props to both investigators!
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right??? she’s putting on the performance of a lifetime
38 likesthey’re an amazing team!! smart & calculated
27 likesCalculated chaos, very well done.
18 likesI wanna be her when I grow up
5 likesthen that mixed with the male detectives more cynical projection , god they are the perfect compliments to each-other.
13 likesI honestly couldn't watch the female detective. I was like lady shut it ngl. It worked though and they got a confession but she was annoying the crap out of me.
34 likes@Cibo From A Diverging Timeline well then she did a good job 🤣
27 likesI want to give this comment two likes, all these comments about the female officer being too emotional, they just don't gets it.
9 likes@Matthew Burgner righttt
0 likes@Matthew Burgner Yes! It was a very 'gender-motivated' crime. The guy had always done well with women, etc.
12 likesPeople who don't realize how calculated this was, how they're trying to leverage his relationship with women, are just weird lol.
she did her part very well, and male investigator did really good too at the start, but he was interrupting her when she was doing well.
5 likesThe way she was begging him lmfao
1 like@Cibo From A Diverging Timeline Totally agree. She was highly irritating. Emotional in a useless way. The male detective would have got the confession without her anyway.
4 likes@Cibo From A Diverging Timeline I had the same feeling and reading through these comments made me understand just how brilliant her work was. At first i thought she was kind of interfering with what the male detective was trying to do but now i see how she was playing the part.
4 likesI thought she was having a stroke
2 likes@SamDeaconArt Savage!!
1 likeIt's classic, she was the bad cop, male was the good cop. She kept pushing and the male detective kept giving Rodarte possible outs to draw him back in
2 likesI know she's acting, but it hurt so much to hear her plead like that and her voice breaking a bit almost made wanna confess to a crime I didn't commit
1 likeLove how the murders always try to shred the victim's character. She was spreading the rumors that they were boning.. and he just couldn't handle it.. she was doing heroin... dude, PLEASE.
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even if it was true. still no reason to kill lol.
17 likesObviously he’s not a reasonable person.
1 likeShe may have been talking about their relationship, which would cause him to lose his job. There must have been something in the relationship where she was abused, otherwise I don't see a motivation for him to murder her.
3 likesLoL ...like u wouldn't do him ..hot Mexican dude ..every girls dream boy
0 likes@P Pumpkin It's called drugs friend, you can see the hallmarks of him being under the effects of drugs at the end when he starts expressing what he is thinking which clearly were racing thoughts, I also believe that how he described Savannah is not who she was but rather who he is, he is probably addicted to drugs and since some people by nature already have the tendency to lose control over their actions, when they take drugs then they can murder people over anything and that is what he did, there is no other explanation, sure some women can be very nasty despite them appearing to be sweet and friendly but on the inside are pure evil, look at those lunatics Jodi and Dalia, but I do not think Savannah was anything like that and if she was, that still is no reason to harm her let alone murder her, when people are bad you just skip them and move on with your life, simple as that, right?
0 likesthey cut footage and say ya he confessed i call bullshit
0 likesDetective: "How do you know Savannah?"
924 likesLee: "You see, when I was a young lad, my mother did methamphetamines..."
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😂
4 likes😂 lmao
1 like🤣
1 like😂 this made me laugh so hard
1 likeI love it too!!!!
0 likesTraffic camera when someone has murdered somebody: 5 pixels
5149 likesTraffic camera when you make a right turn on red: 100 trillion pixels
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Yeah
9 likesGetting money is more important than people's safety, huh...
87 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣👌
9 likesPriorities allllll wrong lol
11 likes@S. N since when does crossing a red light is keeping anyone safe?Yes,fines is a way to gather money,because we are too stupid to even wear a seatbelt without being threatened to.This is on us
5 likes@Xrhstos Pex I was obviously being very sarcastic. Yes being fined is on us if we don't follow the law, but we are clearly talking about the camera quality in 2 different situations. It's just a bunch of people being very sarcastic on a real issue in this thread. No one of us has meant to trigger you...
36 likesSee, we are slaves
1 like@Xrhstos Pex making a right turn on a red light is legal though, i do it all the time
13 likes@SoshJam with a flash.Dont forget the flash 😂
3 likes@S. N my bad🙁
1 likeYeah, and that was no 2012 Malibu but they said it was a perfect match. It’s an older model.
1 like@Xrhstos Pex flash?
0 likesExactly why I never make a right turn on red when murdering someone
11 likesRight on red is legal in Delaware, ride on red is legal in Pennsylvania
2 likesRight turn on red is legal though lol
1 likehahah. so true, I could even see my dogs expression sitting next to me on that damm police bill :)))
2 likesBruhhhh lmao.. you can see me sipping my Starbucks coffee and everything !! Shit makes no sense
3 likes@Xrhstos Pex imagine thinking "getting milked for doing non-violent crimes" is a good thing. where does the money go? it doesn't go back into the communities or anything that benefits the people. it goes into pockets.
2 likes@auto144p well,i dont really care where the money goes when it comes to traffic laws.Because wether we like it or not,people die in the road.And if you think that violent crimes are responsible for more deaths than traffic accodents,well they are not.Because approximately 1.4 million doe every year from car crashes and 400 mil from homicides.And well,if we are that stupid that we dont want to wear a seatbelt or a helmet,or we do cross a red light,then we deserve the fines that come with them
1 likeThere's a big difference between surveillance camera and DSLR with quick exposure (shutter speed), synchronized with a bright Xenon flash
1 like@Nate Johnson it is unless you dont come to a complete stop and thats up the the officer's judgement. I got a ticket for it 2 years ago and not only was it a 500$ ticket, it also jacked up my insurance 70$ a month because of another ticket i had. Not only is it bullshit cuz I looked both ways but the compounding tickets make my insurance ass for the next 5 years. Cops have that data and knowingly give you the ticket just to ruin anything you had going for you. I didnt put anyone in danger that day, I just turned right on a red going 5mph.
1 likeI live in a right on red state. I forget there are even states you can't turn right on red. Whack.
1 likeOn many roads making a right turn on red is not allowed.
1 like@S. N fr
1 like@T H I thought the same
2 likesLol
:”perfect match”
Lol
So good 😅😂😂😂😂
0 likesLMAO
0 likes😂😂😂so true
0 likesSo freaking true. Spots my motorcycle small ass plates going 80. 😏
1 like@S. N welcome to the great "country" known as the USA
0 likesprofitable. profitability always wins.
0 likesLol
0 likesIt really shows where municipal governments put your tax money. Even the cameras in that room are bad. But they can get a clear photo of the expiration sticker on your plate when they can fine you 400$
0 likesTraffic monitoring cameras record VIDEO 24/7, which is 99.99999% uneventful and requires significant amount of storage for one week of footage, and is therefore limited in quality = Apples
0 likesTraffic cameras for fines take STILL PHOTOS a few times a day, which requires far less storage and as it is a single image, can be magnitudes higher quality = Oranges
Now let's compare the two...
XD
0 likesHere we are towards the end of 2021 and yet security cameras still run at .0001 fps with a whopping 2 pixels
0 likesBrilliant observation
0 likesthe difference is traffic cameras are paid for by the city, which has more money
0 likesSECURITY cameras are paid privately by business owners.
I could go into more details on why they are usually shit, but its too long for a post
and chances are no one is reading this anyway
Lol
0 likes@J. 'Chilly' Dawson don't forget those Million dollar fighter jet UFO videos..worst than Nintendo graphics
0 likesLol Fact
0 likes@Nate Johnson thats just in the states
0 likes@J. 'Chilly' Dawson I read it- and your post sounds like the raving of a lunatic.
0 likesHorrible crime but can't help laugh how close detective sitting to him
0 likesFor real
0 likesI needed that laugh
0 likesDont do drugs kids
1 like"Innocent people will give short, concise answers"
1883 likesMe, a hopeless babbler: Shiiiiiiit
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I am also a babbler, and this video made me realize that I babble exactly like the killer when my self-worth is low, when I believe I'm not good enough and feelings like that. And I realize that I feel guilty about that – I think I need to be better than I am, so I try to please people and convince them that I am better.
130 likes@Clay Punk Man, same here!!! I would never imagine that a video and a comment section would make me think about these things... Oh well
28 likesIf you sat there for 90 minutes arrested for some bs, you’d be pretty short and concise
35 likes@Robzilla Sharp thinking; you'd be rather pissed off.
14 likesikr. I would've tried to be extra helpful and dig deep into our whole history lol.
15 likes@Clay Punk HEY. Now what we're NOT gonna do is say things like THAT. Cause now I'm concerned for my mental health.
2 likesThat was my exact thought, whoopsies. Can’t even talk to my therapist without going on a 20 minute rant about like Mac n cheese when we’re talking about my home life…
7 likes😂
0 likes@m0rality have we been having the same therapy sessions?
0 likesSame. If i was being falsely investigated id talk a LOT. like ill tell you my soul, bro.
4 likesLiterally. It’s making me self aware
2 likesLeaving them alone for along time doesn't work on psychopaths. They don't feel empathy for anyone they hurt or kill. They would only be mad if caught. Which shows that normal people with anger issues kill sometimes.
1 likeYeah if I was in an interrogation I would probably look guilty, I ramble like a madman. But I’d probably also do so with a smile and sense of excitement. So that probably wouldn’t help either.
2 likes@Clay Punk i was just like you man
0 likesI'm an introvert but I'm a blabber😢
3 likes@Clay Punk i have brain dmg and major memory loss. So i forget or get lost in conversation and thought if u pressure me. More so i have even forgotten my own name at wallmart checkout. When i used a cc card they ask my name it caught me off guard and i couldn't remember. Almost got arrested i did nothing wrong.
0 likesSo i feel u.
@LouLou i feel u.i suck w ppl why im single love ur prof pic its adorable
0 likesI blabber at any given chance😬😬
0 likesThat is me I just cant stop thinking when I speak to people that I like..
0 likesExample if my friend asks me about my day, I would give them 2 whole paragraphs explaining where I went, what I ate, who I spoke to, my form of transpitation and what I woke up to.
I feel this on a very personal level.
2 likesYes this is not exactly true. They are saying if he's innocent he won't see the cops as a threat, but that's bullshit, the cops are a threat whether or not you are innocent because you can wind up in jail, accused just the same if you are innocent
1 likeAdd bacon bits
0 likesI just hope I don't get arrested for being on the wrong place at the wrong time
0 likeswhat if I'm afraid of the police?
0 likesWait.....am I guilty?
0 likesYou guilty as heck.
0 likesWhy you guilty of literally everything bro??
0 likes@Professionally Correct This is usually where I hold up my middle finger and say "Quantify this!"
0 likesThe long responses thing, it makes me so nervous. As someone who has bad ADHD, and I don’t take medication for it, I will ramble for so long, especially if I’m anxious, if they let me talk lmao. Like you have to stop me or I’ll go so off topic to the point where I lose everyone, and it might look deliberate. I’m hopeful that I never get interrogated 😂😅
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Same here, except I have generalised anxiety disorder and obsessive compulsive disorder. I’m so worried that if I get interrogated, I’ll end up getting falsely accused
107 likesDon't talk. Ask for a lawyer. Which is what we should all do. I watch too much TV.
114 likes@Joan Tinker my mind would go immediately to "i should really ask for a lawyer but these guys seem really interested in me and what i have to say and i really wanna talk about something"
111 likesThere's a distinct difference in being anxious of being intimidated whilst innocent vs guilty. Most detectives can see the difference. If you have a lawyer you could ask his advice if it is wise or not to mention you have an overall sense of anxiety or can look that way because of adhd.
15 likesthat's exactly what i thought lmao
1 likeSAME. I have anxiety issues and I tend to ramble and over explain myself when I feel threatened or upset. Definitely comes off as sus to some people 🤦🏻♀️
12 likesthis! I'm an outgoing person with anxiety and ADHD. i also love to be helpful. add the fact i'm a writer, and you have a LOT of talking.
10 likesYou proved your point.
0 likesSame. My ADHD is horrible and I can’t take meds for it because none work or they conflict with other meds. Hopefully o never get interrogated because they’ll definitely think I’m guilty
4 likesI thought about that, someone incriminating themselves by 'acting the wrong way', or lashing out when being wrongly accused. I'm scared that if I get interrogated for any reason, I would react 'incorrectly' if I can't prove I'm innocent. Making me look more like a culprit in the process. I'm also afraid to just confess to anything just so that it can stop and I can be alone with my thoughts. Get a lawyer.
1 likeYeah I doubt it
0 likesSame 😭😂
0 likesthis was exactly what I was thinking from the moment he mentioned the thing about guilty people talking more
1 likeI've tackled this topic in many comments, but i am always open to answer your concern.
5 likesThe detectives are not looking JUST for rambling long responses.
In this very case they have already estabilished a BASELINE of body language and behavior of this individual days before during the questioning at the restaurant, they know how he would NORMALLY act and answer.
If it was you and you were innocent, they would have estabilished your baseline as well, and then based on that, check if the real important question have similar responses.
If you are innocent, no matter your ADHD or any quirks you may have, your body would react same in a predictable way when questioned.
If you are lying, your body doesn't, can't.
That's what the detectives are looking for, not simply the "long and winded response"
But in any case, if you are in any police questioning, no matter if innocent or guilty, LAWYER UP!
Edit:
Forgot to mention, the detectives have ALREADY proof it was him, they just needed his confession, they needed to corner him, to find his resoning for doing it.
If you are innocent, is highly unlikely you will be put in a similar interrogation.
Detectives cannot afford to interrogate someone on a hunch, they need to have solid ground and be meticulous.
So don't worry about your ADHD, that is what makes you yourself, and not a liability. :)
If you get interrogated plead the fifth for every audition
2 likesJust don’t kill anyone and you’ll be fine.
1 likeLiterally same! 💯💯
0 likesDude just relax…it’s alright…be confident in who you are, and NEVER care what a stranger thinks of you…why would you?
0 likesAs long as you don't murder anyone you'll be absolutely fine 😂
0 likesAs long as you're not a suspect to anything...ur good
1 likeDon't do anything ever and you'll be grand
0 likesIkrrr, I have anxiety so I'd be shaking and fidgety and I'm scared that they might mistake that for guilt or something. Same as you, I really hope I'm never interrogated lol
0 likes@Joan Tinker This is the truest thing ever! Don't worry about "sounding guilty" if you say you won't talk without a lawyer. Screw that. They cannot hold that against you in ANY way.
0 likesI watch so many of these interrogation videos and that is the single lesson I take from all of them. I was watching one with my bf and I commented that if that were me, I would just say "I'm not saying a single word without a lawyer" and his response was "You don't want to just right away say that, they'll think you're guilty!" Poor naive fool. That really is how MOST people think though. And the cops WANT that to be the general mindset, bc then if you ever DO end up in an interrogation room, you don't want to ask for a lawyer bc you think it'll make you look bad. That's why so many of these people TALK. It's always shocking to me and I want to shake them and yell "SHUT UP!!! ASK FOR A LAWYER!" But then again, 99% of the interrogation videos I watch, the subject IS guilty, so I am GLAD they are talking and get caught.
The arrival of those text messages must have been absolutely terrifying for her family.
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@What isitNOWNatashathestalker wut
5 likesI have a lot of respect for the investigators and am always impressed with the creative and skillful tactics they use. However, as a major true crime fan and watching countless interrogations I’ve never once scene someone confess after the investigator says “the family deserves to know the truth.” As sad as that is to say I wonder why that seems to almost always come up in interrogation.
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Hopefully the killer has some guilt buried there in his black heart...also maybe it is simply paying a homage to the family....the Detectives always speak to the families first and see first hand their grief....just my thoughts. Happy New Year
24 likesit works if the killer has some kind of heart haha
9 likesYou play to every angle you can. Works better if the suspect and the victim's family know each other. One tactic on its own rarely gets the job done, but its about psychologically whittling down the suspect's defenses until they crack and either slip up, which affords more oppotunities to add pressure, or confess. Confessions aren't common, but what they say can be used against them in court, so if you can catch them slipping, or force them into a corner of defending something that can be disproven with evidence than it makes your case that much stronger.
24 likes@rain tree: Selassie. Bless. The one good thing was that there were no "black hearts" nor systemic "cards" used. Thank goodness.
2 likesI think it’s in there because you never know, but also because if they can eventually 100% prove he did it the prosecution can make him look worse by playing it and going “it was cold and calculated, look how we asked him about her family and he didn’t even care.”
2 likesStill so sad. My dad actually worked with savannah for a while at bonefish before he quit he said she was always so sweet and had such a uplifting smile everytime they worked together ❤ I really hope her family is doing well and he killer needs more time to rot in jail.
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Oh god. Im so sorry
8 likesMy dad also worked with her
9 likesmy dads uncle friends also worked with savannah
10 likesuntil he got hired by nintendo and gives me free games
13 likes@Will Hugs damn all your friends must be jealous
2 likesSo what does he think the motive was
0 likesMy friend Eric worked with her too
1 like@S Meah yea love eric he threw the craziest parties. like one time he ate cheetos dipped in cherry juice while riding a scooter
0 likesSuch a deeply satisfying ending.. witnessing the anguish of a killer realizing the consequences of their actions
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Yeah
0 likesI genuinely feel bad about him crying and realizing his entire future is ruined, but at the same time that's what you get when you do some truly dumb shit and kill someone. Him realizing that this isn't what he wanted in life really made me upset, I mean we've all done things we regret (hopefully not to this degree) and the realization that you really fucked up is a truly awful one. Idk, just me overthinking things and getting anxious lol!
2 likes@Original Username yeah I hate seeing people break down that I KNOW have done something awful, bc we can't turn our empathy off. so we end up feeling pity for him even though we dont want to and he certainly doesnt deserve it.
1 likei love seeing how upset he gets at the end. he’s such a baby and he even says he’s not gonna make it in jail. 😂
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Why are you laughing? It’s not amusing in anyway, it’s just sad.
2 likes@Primal His suffering is amusing.
0 likes@Christopher no part of this is amusing. a girl's life was ended for no reason and two families essentially lost a child.
1 likeFor those wondering:
60 likesHe changed his plea to guilty and was sentenced to 40 years in prison
This is one of my favorites! For the team utilizing patience, precision, and a simplistic yet very technical form of good cop bad cop with the added spell of this young lady giving a different feel of tension guilt and remorse to the killer to boil over with regret and come forward.
18 likesUpdate: Rodarte received a 40-year prison sentence in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to second-degree murder, according to the State Attorney's Office. Other charges of tampering with evidence and abuse of a dead body were dropped in the agreement
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That really, really grosses me out. Idk what the legalities are like in Florida and what minimum sentence for murder is there but seriously, he should have gotten life without parole.
0 likesThese videos are great because they teach you how not to fall for their mind games. As soon as I’m pulled in for interrogation for anything, out comes the lawyer.
22 likesThis female detective should consider acting as a career because she is damn convincing.
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Why? She did perfect as a detective 😁
10 likes@Yyyyzyyy That is the point
5 likesShe's probably more needed in her current job lol. Not sure we need more actors.
8 likesAyesha Munawar: It's all combined. These detectives are heavily trained.
1 like@Yyyyzyyy I agree, however majority of the comments seem to indicate that she did a good job, personally I thought that whenever she spoke she was derailing the efforts of the first detective, I expected JCS to chime in about it too but he didn't - I guess it means that her approach wouldn't work on people like us
2 likesI thought she was kinda cringe. Laid it on a little too thick, but I guess it worked and that's all that mattered.
7 likes@Les Schorlemer: Well-described. Interesting words. This was an easier case to decipher with the video evidence, working toward conjectural substance. In tougher situations, the detective wouldn't have succumbed so speedily.
0 likesWhat’s astonishing is the female detective is telling him the exact events and that they have video, yet he’s still trying to lie 🤦♂️
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I mean cops do lie about having evidence all the time but the fact that she knew about things in the video should have tipped him off
5 likesUpdate:
6 likesRodarte received a 40-year prison sentence in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to second-degree murder, according to the State Attorney's Office. Other charges of tampering with evidence and abuse of a dead body were dropped in the agreement.
Fascinating, because of your analysis and explanation in easy to understand language. He’s still a kid. That’s why he’s acted this way. Is this where some people who have had an easy life. Attractive to the opposite sex, loving parents never had any real worries end up. They believe they can do what they want. Would like to know what his life was before the event. He probably exaggerated her bad points to make himself look better. Is there any evidence she was a Heroin addict. She is attractive, why was she blackmailing him for a sexual relationship. Sounds like a fantasy of his.
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You probably hit the nail on the head here, what you just said is probably what he told himself to justify killing the girl.
2 likesI’ve watched this one a few times and always question if the female detective is fake or sincere with her pleading. I feel like it’s something she turns off as soon as she walks out the door.
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watch the full confession at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s. She turns it off way sooner, as soon as he starts confessing. Example at 2:57:45
1 likeImagine if he got away with the murder, he had absolutely no guilt on his conscience. How do these killers live with themselves. These monsters kill people as if they are flies.
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this dude committed murder with his bare hands and went to work the next day…I can’t even imagine
3 likesExactly. I over analyze every interaction with another person.....I still feel guilty for talking shit behind Mariah's back in 6th grade....that eats me up all the time. I can't imagine harming another person, let alone killing them.
0 likes@Jessica
0 likesThen find Mariah on facebook or other means and tell her you are sorry and ask for forgiveness so you can be at peace with yourself.
if you can't find her don't let it bother you, it's just gossip, I know it's bad but don't make a big deal out of it.
He's actually one of the most remorseful killers I've ever seen. He cries and shames himself for what he's done. Almost none of them do that. Most of the time they're indignant or neutral, showing no emotion or expressing any favorable sentiment for the victims. I also doubt he killed anyone before this. He's stupid and got caught easily which probably would have happened the first time too. Impulse killings of a romantic partner like this are often one-and-done.
1 like@Abe Buckingham nah, he was crying for himself.
0 likes@Big F Only a little and after the interrogation is was over. Almost all of his crying was directly in response to sharing details of the killing with the detectives. It's more obvious when you watch the entire interrogation rather than just the parts shown here.
0 likesI'm Gutted!! Just finished all jcs videos in 2 days , absolutely fascinating well presented and evocative one of the best channels I've accidentally come across
2 likesHe easily could have said, we did drugs, had sex in the back of my car, skipped work and went to a park, I told her to take an Uber home and she left and I haven’t seen her since. Simple story.
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they would check uber if its true
3 likes@Ad still. anything after he stated that she left his car wouldnt be his responsibility. maybe she walked to the store and got picked up there after he already left. any number of things she couldve done. I just feel like it wouldve also been so obvious to me that after you realized maybe they heard she got in my car to assume they think/know you left together lol. However, I'm also not stupid enough or capable of even thinking about murdering someone.
8 likesThat lady is like Jon Hamm from Black mirror
1 likethe text messages would kill that nice story
0 likesBoth the detectives were insanely good, especially the female one being emotional to try and provoke something inside of him.
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it worked too. At the uncut confession you see how she's changing tactics as soon as he starts confessing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s for example at 2:57:40
3 likes@Bumble Baa thank you, tired of people saying she was contributing nothing
6 likes@starstruck. Right? She was literally calling the shots the whole time in the interrogation. Did you see her tap her partner with her foot? Absolutely perfect police work and she deserves all the credit.
1 like@Abe Buckingham She deserves a lot of credit, but why would she deserve all of it? They were both employing effective habits. You can raise a woman up without having to put someone else down.
0 likesI LOVE your work and look for new stories every day ! Can yo do one on the latest in the Epstein Maxwell trial ? Pretty please from an enthusiastic Auusie ?
3 likesDrug addicts are crazy as hell, I had to cut a few friends out of my life for that.
6 likesCall me unsupportive but when they start stealing from you and choosing drugs over their children, there’s nothing an average guy like me can do.
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I mean you could urge them to get help but it’s hard to help addicts unless they want to be helped
0 likesI’m so glad that these detectives that catch monsters like this do such an amazing job. BUT why in the fuck do these morons not just shut up and ask for a lawyer?! I do not understand why they sit there and talk for 5 hours. They have the ability to murder a human being in cold blood but can’t say “I don’t want to talk to the cops” it’s seriously amazing.
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Many have a tendency to think that asking for a lawyer "looks guilty" to the detectives and so they refrain.
2 likesSad to see two lives destroyed over an eighth month love affair.
5 likesLoved watching him agonize over his choice. RIP Savannah.
1 likeNow for me, when you said that this reaction was hard to watch even with context, I still feel no sympathy for him, not difficult for me to watch at all. He killed a beautiful girl for no reason. I guess I just cant feel sorry.
2 likesThe moment the scars were mentioned on his neck, and he tried to give a bull crap story, the female detective wasn’t having it at all.
1 likeI’m genuinely curious what the reason would be for not releasing the confession, was it being used as part of the investigation still or something?
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no idea. You can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s Female detective's tactic worked and she became cool and un-emotional as soon as he started confessing.
1 like09:40
2 likesIs that really the case, though? If I was being interrogated in a murder/kidnapping case, I'd definitely see the interrogator as a threat even if I was innocent, because innocent people do get falsely convicted, it's something that happens.
Do things like General Anxiety Disorder or other mental health conditions make it hard to distinguish between guilt and the disorder? I know things like, for example, shaking leg syndrome probably isn’t common but is a common sign of anxiety (whether situational or not). How much are these thought about by interrogators? How do they affect their perception of a suspect?
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I think there isn't a way to tell one from the other, but it's good to analyze other aspects to tell if the person is guilty
0 likesDid this panicking person had the oportunity and motive to kill someone? Did they have power and sources? How would they do it?
And again, innocent until proven guilty
Glad he is caught, excellent work by the investigators .
0 likesNothing like watching a brutal murderer be caught out, watch them squirm, and then weep to themselves like a baby, bc they're so scared abt what's gonna happen to them in jail. Fucking sweet. I hope he rots in his cell.
2 likesNever talk to the police without a lawyer!!!
4 likesI gotta believe the lady on her phone all nonchalantly and him purposely letting the door swing open and bang against the wall was an intentional psychological trick.
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you would be right haha. See uncut confession at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s for more of their tactics.
0 likesI hate this man for what he has done to another human being, but i can't help but feel sorry for him, seeing him break down like that. He deserves life in prison though.
2 likesI've seen self harm (cutting) done on just about every part of the body except the neck and face.
0 likesIt's painful to see someone lying so badly...
0 likesi find it interesting him talking to "himself" at the end. he knows the tape is going to be examined and he's only saying stuff for the detectives to take into account. sadly a psychopath doesn't realize that emotion and remorse are useless when it's crying about yourself and not the innocent girl you just murdered for no reason. boo hoo pal. you deserve more than 40 years. the fact he is terrified of jail and getting dealt with in there makes it satisfying to watch though. don't kill people because it's an awful thing to do, but even if you lack empathy then don't kill people because you will go to jail, idiot.
4 likesThis is the most interesting content on YouTube!
0 likesThanks so much for these posts
I was horrified to see he was like blaming his victim, several times
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38:52
39:13
I know man like that unfortunately
Question...is it an issue that I feel nothing/ have no emotional reaction to this? The narrator at one point says that it should be hard to watch his reaction to it all. But if I'm being honest, this is only mildly amusing to me. And I may or may not watch these to listen to the crime description, interrogation strategies and to watch how the suspect acts.
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@Skaarphy can't honestly say I don't think about it....but I can't see losing my grip enough to be violent. Not saying there aren't scenarios that could bring it out of me. But for now just sounds like a hassle. Too many lies, and the science is too good to even try n get away.
0 likesSuperior detail and editing, most enjoyable
1 likeWow, the interrogation footage skips the whole reason most of us are here, and that was hearing him admit to killing her.
3 likesEdit: The intense buildup only to get hit by a "NOT THIS TIME".
Why did he kill her? To keep his job because they had been in a relationship? I still am not clear on this.
0 likesHis sister apparently also committed a murder and is in jail for it, so being fucked in the head runs in this family.
Shoutout to the female detective though. Damn. She channeled mama rage to be 'bad cop' (by his perspective) and put that pressure on hard.
0 likesChoices and consequences folks! All it takes is just one moment of sheer stupidity to completely wreck out your whole life.
1 likeCops are really good at this. The only safe response is to ask for a lawyer. Anything you're going to say can be said through your lawyer.
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every day is Shut the Fuck of Friday in the States.
0 likesDetective: “So how long have you known Savannah?”
10 likesLee: " Well it all started with a Big Bang.....
It takes will to sit there calmly to keep questioning the guy and persuading to admiting he done it. I would've snapped dozens of times and be sat down being interogated
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I watched my grandma kill herself with her nicotine addiction
0 likesI can’t imagine how much worse drug addiction can be
@Normal Human whats that have to do with anything?
0 likes@BRUGAR I’m really sorry I replied to the wrong comment
0 likes@Normal Human all good
0 likesdespite the fact that i know what this man has done and that he did it in cold blood, the moments of his breakdown are still extremely hard to watch.
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Why?
0 likesNah.
0 likesYou guys show the unimportant parts of an interrogation!
0 likesLife's good when you don't have a murder to hide
1 likeSo how do you know Savannah?
0 likesLee: Tells her whole life story.
🤦♂️
Have they ever released his confession yet?
0 likesHeinous violent crime: Yes, Alright!
2 likesPsychological Manipulation: Hell, Yes!
Gory details of the murder: YESSS!!!
He picked his scabs at his place of work which is a restaurant: Audible retching
“one day when you have kids”
1 likeis bone chilling and probably took a lot to say.
He got 40 years with time served counting if anyone was curious.
1 likeThis is my last video to watch in this channel...
0 likesIts been quality viewing.
Thanks JCS
When's the next one up?
Female detective: "Where is Savannah?"
0 likesLee (doesn't answer)
Female detective: "Please?"
Could this be the one and only time he has killed a person? … I wonder …
0 likesEvery time the detective says “ohh gotcha” I LOLOL 😂
0 likes8:54 I'm the complete opposite and honest to a fault to where I often over-explain things instead of keeping it short and sweet. I often give long winded truths unfortunately.
1 likeBut he is right, most of the time.
that was a super strong confrontational question. out of nowhere.
0 likesWhy is that rapper behind him at 39:11 ? Keep up the great work on these as I find them wonderful with all the extra information you put in.
0 likesHis knee starts going uncontrollable as soon as he started talking about the car park & her paranoia in the 15th minute, he knows he's been made
0 likesI'm a Junkie. Heroin does NOT make u paranoid. Exact opposite. Not having it makes u paranoid when ur a junkie
2 likesDetective: how long have you known Savannah
1 likeHim: recites a full season of law and order instead of answering the actual question
The dude steps with the wrong move every time the lady gets close. It's infuriating.
0 likesDetectives have great voices ..
0 likesFemale detective got a little too emotional with all that faux crying and raising her voice.
1 like"Could have just told her to leave you alone...". Exactly.
0 likesNever go in to an interrogation room by yourself. You are outmatched and at a disadvantage.
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I would say this: don’t murder women in the back seat of your car.
4 likesThat also has the advantage of never needing to talk to police interrogations
or just don’t murder women who’ve done nothing to you
1 likeI worked in the restaurant biz for about 8 years...get out, and finish the degree you put off. All it does is perpetuate a party lifestyle and destroys your ambitions.
0 likesObviously guilty from just asking... How long have you known her?
0 likes"At the end of a secluded road." My man I used to play back there when I was a kid lol. Yikes, were some sus people a few times, glad no kid stumbled across this!
1 likeHe asks at the end: Why are you here...?
0 likesBecause you talked to cops and didn't use your right to remain silent.
idk why but when i watch these kind of videos i always think "damn that guy's so dumb, i can lie better than that"
0 likesDon't you just hate it when you accidentally snap your friend's neck with your bare hands, by accident?
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that and paper cuts, man.
0 likesHeroin is okay at work but definitely NO fraternization
2 likeseverytime I drive by a bonefish grill I think of this girl. RIP
1 like"One day, when you have kids of your own" - hahahah good luck with that!
1 likealso a woman- as he killed a woman- is the one who confronts him
3 likesThere were three bottles of water on the table, then the video was cut and when it returns, ....... there is only two bottles of water on the table and a liquid is visable at his feet slowly moving down the floor under his shoes, so did they remove 2 water bottles, did he spill them or did he just, as you or I would in this situation - PISS OUR FREAKIN PANTS
0 likesWhy ain't this dude asking for a lawyer
1 likeHe ain't very bright
As soon as I saw the same detective again
Regardless if I did a crime or not I'm asking for a lawyer
Yup, now that you killed the girl you loved, youre all alone bud.
0 likesSatisfying ending. Rip savanna <3
1 likeDETECTIVE: So how long have you known Savannah?
1 likeLEE: (goes full stephanie Lazarus) oh gosh that was like a million years ago umm gee I have no idea but I take like 10,000 pictures
This reminds me of Stephanie Lazarus 😂 so much talking!
0 likesThis one had me gripping my seat.
0 likesDetective made a mistake there when he said "so she got out of the backseat" maybe it was intentional, I don't know but Rodarte must have thought how did he know she was in the backseat & not the front.
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Because it was on camera !!! Are y’all actually paying attention? The camera showed her getting in the backseat & trying to escape
0 likes@Alejandria Goodwin Yes I am paying attention. The police had the camera footage but at that point the suspect didn't know there was any video. Most people would assume she was in the front seat.
0 likes7:50 she almost got caught scrolling through her feed. Notice the slight angling of the phone.
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yeah… that's a tactic. She's the senior of the two. See her correcting partner with foot at about 29 minutes. Also she dropped the emotional thing as soon as he started confessing, see for example 2:57 at uncut interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s
0 likesThey can't ask me more serious questions, if I talk non-stop forever. - Lee Rodarte probably
0 likes🤮 @20:58. I’m just gon’ stop eating out. Shameful.
1 likeHe should have told them people, he got cut shaving 🪒 🤣 . I hope she’s in peace.
It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid
0 likesProbably couldve had his confession thrown out cuz he was on adderall.
0 likes“The last time you get to wear your chef coat” 💀
0 likesHe thinks too much of himself. You can tell because he talked too much. Initially the cops had to ask very little....he just talked and talked.
0 likesat 1:28 the poster of Savannah in red writing says that Savannah is actually not a female but a male.
1 likeThe female officer actually played her part brilliantly. The begging, the whining, the submissive pleading tone of her voice. The cringy-ness and drama of it all...She played to his narcissism and she got him!
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exactly. the women knows her work!
24 likesI thought she took it too far but you’re right, it clearly worked
30 likesI thought just the opposite. Played terribly. She’s playing on emotions that aren’t there. He murdered someone to save his job and she’s gonna cry and beg? he confessed because they had him on tape. That’s the only reason.
55 likesI feel like she jumped the gun on the accusation. If he was a bit more composed during his "breakdown", he could have lead the police in a longer chase.
10 likesThat performance would only work on a dumb person.
12 likesI thought she deserved an award for this
1 like@pinkwakabeagle same
3 likesThat was an unexpected result.
2 likesEveryone saying she was over the top and cringy but that's the point. If you had two cops just saying "well I don't think you did it, its okay" and being calm he would have kept up his bs. They don't know this man and don't know whether he will react to emotion or need convincing. Between her shrill begging and the mans nonchalant deamor he was probably so confused and caught up and it obviously worked regardless.
10 likesi think it’s more about causing intensity and uncomfortableness to unsettle them and make them more likely to crack as that adds to a build up of an already uneasy situation
3 likesShe was awful, he didn't confess because of her emotional breakdown. She really needs to be moved to a different position lmao.
4 likes@Jen Dark Energy 384400 Or someone who is in highly upset emotional state. Which is exactly where this guy was. He did wrong and knew it.
1 likeI hated everything about it! Wow! So annoying and obviously fake sounding. I'm surprised the accused didn't tell her to "cut it out!"
5 likes@ everybody saying "she was annoying and cringy and bad acting I wanted her to shut up", dude thats the point. imagine having her in front of you, insisting nonstop. do you want to scream at her? tell her to shut up? she is trying to trigger him in some way that simply talking will not do. Even remaining silent says a lot about your mental process. you all would fall for it.
3 likesIt was terrible. She was clearly acting and he was obviously unmoved by it.
2 likes@Daisy Gonzalez I'm pretty sure he confessed due to them revealing that they had evidence against him rather than because of her emoting.
2 likes@Captain Midnight I didn't say he confessed because of her at all in anyway so?
1 like@Londiwe Madikizela 😂 pitiful
0 likesThe way female investigators seek for confession is very annoying. I suspect it's part of the reason why this frequently succeeds.
0 likesShit just got real for this dude...
0 likesThat lady interrogator doesn't belong, she makes the investigative side look so weak. I wouldn't say anything either.
0 likesI will def say he looks like the type of guy to snap in rage. Anybody for his size and his muscles can easily snap someone neck especially such a petite woman like savanna was. Nobody average man can jus snap someone neck jus like that. He said she slapped her 3 times that 3rd time he prolly snapped in absolute rage and anger and grabbed her neck and instantly snapped it no problem. Glad he was put to justice rip savanna 🙏🏿
3 likesDetective: how do you know savana?
0 likesGuy: gives the plot for game of thrones
This shit is great, worth the sub.
0 likesIt’s hard to explain this without sounding like I’m empathizing with a killer but people with borderline personality disorder can experience fits of psychotic rage that are uncontrollable and the strength and emotion people experience during the episode is so intense you will never be able to understand it until you’re there. I’d feel bad for people like him and Jodi arias if they weren’t such disgusting liars. Just tell the truth. You were angry and did something every human is capable of. 2 lives lost.
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yeah i understand, they'd weirdly be more "forgivable" or at least far more human if just confessed immediately to the horrid shit they did, rather than lying about and defaming the people they killed
2 likes@Grace Minshull yes I think that’s what I’m trying to say. It would be easier for his guilt to be seen as authentic if he hadn’t lied about it for the first hour.
0 likesI get what you’re saying. That’s why we have first and second degree murder charges with differing sentencing guidelines. Still, if people get so angry that they can kill then those people should not be on the loose. Plus this guy took her body and burned it. I doubt he was in a blackout rage the whole time.
0 likes@V - “blackout rage” and psychosis are not the same thing. Psychosis can last days and dissociation triggered by rage isn’t uncommon. After you literally kill someone burning their body seems only crazy to us. In his mind he thought he was getting rid of evidence not committing even more heinous acts. Brains are weird and people do sick things.
0 likesHeroin gave me the literal opposite of paranoia. (2 years & 3 months clean.) This guy is so stupid, haha.
0 likesOh man I would babble on about whatever topic they questioned. Apparently that makes me super suspicious.
0 likesThat is not a cardinal rule...short answers leave vagueness and ambiguity...exactly the things needed to get away with a crime
0 likesBut detailed accounts reflect truth better. Meaning you are aware, honest, and innocent. Easier to catch a lie in a long story than short...so, I knew her from work isn't an honest answer, cause it hides truth. Obviously you knew her from work, y'all work together. They're looking for intricate detailed honesty....I am sure in some cases it is applicable, but to suggests a norm....police can lie legally. Give details or they will..cross those that t and dot those i's
He acts like not murdering someone was some difficult task and just kinda ended up in that situation. Like dude, you broke her neck, burned her, and then dumped her. Only crying because he got caught and will face the consequences of his own, murderous actions.
0 likesI worked for years in a mental hospital so nothing phases me.
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Keep telling yourself that.
0 likes34:05
0 likes"It shows a human being.."
Nah let me stop you right there lol
ngl i got a tad sad watching his eventual reaction
0 likesDoes anyone know why they don't just show Lee the video? Does it take away some tactical advantage?
0 likesEveryone praising the female detective is doing a ton of mental gymnastics to try and convince themselves that she's anything but an emotional amateur. No, she is not a "good actor", "manipulative" or anything of the sort.
0 likesWhy would anyone talk to police without an attorney?
0 likesThis guy make tge best video i hope he make more
0 likesExcellent naration.
0 likeshe didn't even feel bad about killing her
0 likesThe ending is satisfying af
0 likesThis guy is ripped!!!
0 likesBro a cop begging would tell me they dont have anything. She needs to chill out. Its not Hollywood she can blow the case to a smarter suspect
1 likeThis is one reason why I don’t work at chain restaurants.
0 likesPeeled it off at work (referring to the scab).... and now I never ever ever eat out again
0 likesnot releasing the footage of confession but the parts of him being anguished after confession... is the JSO clip farming?
0 likesThis man is so stupidd. All he had to do is say “I am going to stay silent and I need a lawyer”.
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that isn’t how your emotions work right after you’ve actually committed the act of killing someone in cold blood with your own hands and burned their body in a bonfire, and are then being faced with interrogation lol.
0 likesThe female detective is trying to win an oscar lol
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annoying as hell but I think it's a calculated approach, because he's such an emotional sap.
0 likesLQQK closely at the floor when the tape cuts off, ...something happened and they didn't wanna reveal what it was, ...then keep watching, it drys up!!! Some Sh!t went down in that room!!!
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ooooh conspiracy! perhaps you want the uncut version? it's at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s
0 likesPleaseeeeee make new videos!!!!! Please
0 likesRough to watch and very very sad
0 likesHigh pitched 13 year olds kid voice * "mom I'm gonna die in jail" everyone * "maybe don't kill innocent people."
0 likesthat was such a long winded open answer
0 likes20:00 the fact I was looking at my sh scars 💀💀💀
0 likesIs not the first time he did that. Go to his home country and you will see more
0 likesMy god this guy is spun up during this interrogation
0 likesIm on alot of oxycodone right now and im half asleep. No paranoia from heroin
1 likeIs this your real voice?
0 likesStill early into this video and just wanna ask, why does the detective wear a bowtie?
0 likesBruh I swear 90% of this channel takes place in Jacksonville Florida
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There are only two cases from there on the channel that I’m aware of. There’s a reason that Jacksonville and the rest of Florida are so popular as crime memes. It has to do with the privacy laws. Many states force you to go through the clerk to make a records request and pay for those records. Much of Florida, depending on the county, just dumps this stuff for everyone to see. Plus, I’d be curious to see where JCS is from. He could be local to the area.
2 likesLmao that woman cop is so damn annoying 🤣🤣🤣
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She was playing a role, and she played it well.
0 likesClassic good cop bad cop
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you know it.
0 likesHow to self incriminate, 101.
0 likes저 여성 수사관 만일 하나 범인 틀리거나 무고한 사람을 감옥가게 만들어다 저여성수사관도 고문시키고 인생후회할만한 저주 걸리게만들어버리겠어 내가 복수해주겠어 여성 수사관한테
0 likesAssaults a girl a breaks her neck in the back of his car, in the middle of the day middle of the parking lot of a busy business.
0 likesWhat’s the purpose of the female detective?
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To do what she did. She knew she was a female and had more of a chance of getting a confession out of him through her emotion, because logic clearly wasn't working.
1 likePeople are condemning the female detective's voice and tactic but hey, she got the job done. 👊💪👍
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She sounds SO fake though. So obvious what she was trying to do.
18 likes@Olo Patadine still did it though lls
11 likesYeah, there's good investigators and bad investigators. Hopefully she will get better with time
7 likesAs contrived as it felt, it scared the shit out of him because he realized they knew. It seemed like the perfect way to approach the interrogation with this specific suspect.
15 likesOnly so he could get away from her terrible ham acting
1 like"video camerally"
0 likes@I. Wynn Wynn But it was clear the male detective had a more monotone, unsuspecting voice compared to the female. It's not insulting her or puttng her down, she'll get better at it most likely, it seems like she was younger than the malem
1 likeI feel like the depth of voice, posture, physical size & built, tone, assertiveness and tenacity of a detective matters. For this reason I think on average women detectives may need to compensate a little for any lack in those areas by either developing those qualities, or bringing say, extraordinary wit and cleverness; lest a potential criminal may feel like they have an edge over the detective. There's a lot of intimidation at play, and while sympathy, pleading, and compassion may work initially, it won't help in the closing argument. I do think the female detective was lucky here because she held an ace card, a crucial piece of evidence that cannot be refuted, nor is there an easy way to create an alibi around it without prior contemplation and elaborate scheming. He was backed into a corner so hard, and unexpectedly causing him to abandon hope. That said, it was refreshing to see a different approach and witness how it played out.
1 like@AaronMetallion Some women, and im so so so sorry to say this but I believe it is an ability only some women have. But some women have an AMAZING condescending voice that can rile anyone to confess in anger.
0 likesWhen the detective asked, "What happened to your neck?", I felt guilty for a second. God damn that was a good change of pace
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K.O.
13 likes@Alex Recupero Where can we find Savannah?
2 likes“Seriouslee” Got me
0 likesAs a carpenter, at 7:15 you could tell whoever installed that door didn’t make sure it was level... that’s why it always opens unless completely closed. Really bothers me.
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seems intentional so as to show off them hand-cuffs dangling.
46 likeshe man, want some water? wham. HANDCUFFS
46 likesBasically ruined the whole video. i want to experience TRUE LEVEL, real level, morty!
31 likesHe pushed the door open after partially closing it
5 likes@Justin Long loved that handcuff keychain 😂
5 likesI hated the door handle not sure if it was that but something on the outside handle but it was floppy and I dont like the floppy handles
1 likeHahaha
0 likesThink of the psychological effect though. The murderinvestigator walks in, leans out, walks in, walks out, door flings open, FREEDOM, investigator walks BACK IN, door closes and then someone opens it AGAIN FOR A THIRD BOTTLE OF WATER. the torment man...
9 likesNot plumb. At all
1 like@Justin Long yeah I got that as well
0 likesI hate doors
0 likes@Icarus Alchemist yep
0 likesThe real crime
1 likeReallll fake doors!!!! Tired of real doors just cluttering up your interrogation room??? Come on down and get real fake doooooorrrssss!!!
1 likeI'm OCD and you just became my spirit animal.
3 likesHaven't you ever heard the saying, "close enough for government work?"
0 likesPerhaps the door really was installed level and plumb, but the building's foundation subsequently shifted and moved everything?
I hope I made you all feel better...
@Samaghik Samurai mhmm
0 likes@Jessica Schacht I have a brand new pair of roller-skates and you have a key.
0 likesNo door stop either, would love to see what that wall looks like.
0 likesDetective: How do you know Savanah?
4508 likesLee: I do drugs.
Detective: 😐
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Joycon boyz👊
37 likesIt’s common for cooks to use narcotics.
57 likesto explain how he met her.... he talks on and on about drugs and savannah for what felt like 20 minutes in the interrogation timer.
77 likes😄
4 likesHow well do you know Savannah?
67 likes"My mom did methamphetamines"
@Joe Public I think I've met maybe a handful of dudes on the line (backbone of any restaurant-treat em good) that didn't in my ten years ...he was definitely lying about his drug use
16 likesI've talked openly on several occasions about drug use, even on the one occasion where I was interrogated by police after "violence" against the police (I'm a small girl so there's limited damage I can do without a weapon and wasn't myself at all considering this was my FIRST proper fight due to being aggrivated while on heavy drugs) and on another occasion where I had to tell it. That time I charged a stranger with rape (cuz that's what happened and I won that case two times), and had I not told the detectives about the drugs my story would have too many holes, same thing when my addiction to drugs literally was part of my defence on that violence-case. Never have I ever even been arrested or anything for anything regarding drugs, heh. So, sometimes it makes sense to bring up personal drug use.
6 likes@Jessica Schacht wait?? Your comment coincides with his comment about most cooks using drugs. So you've only" met a handful that were not on drugs"?? Or did you mistype that?
7 likes@Boogity Hoo nope, not a mistype . True to my experience and probably most
8 likes@Jessica Schacht I don't understand why you tagged who you did then cause the person you tagged was saying the same thing but it comes off as you trying to prove them wrong.
3 likes@Jessica Schacht Ive worked restaurants my entire life or know ppl who have so I know all too well the amount of drugs.
2 likes@Boogity Hoo just supplementary commentary 😉
4 likesBusted for drugs or murder. Even so I dont think drugs are going to get you jail time initially lol.
1 like@Samuel Blackthorne Well its also not their department, plus gotta find the victims and bring to justice. You’re being interrogated for murder/possibly grieving , next you thing you know your being asked where the stash is.
0 likesJoycon boys
0 likes@Boogity Hoo It's a common occurrence from fast food to five star restaurants drug use is prevalent.
1 like@Joe Public i knew a cook and he loved coke. Every day and night at work he hammered the stuff. I dont like it myself too sweet i prefer a nice lemonade!
3 likes@Joe Public when I worked in restaurants, almost everyone used drugs, of some sort. But yeah, opiates & narcotics, find the guys who make the best money (like head chef) if you want the best stuff... Buy it from a bus boy & it will have been stepped on 😂
1 like@BreakfastClub trying to make her sound like a junkie
0 likesHe was trying to make her sound like a junkie who got into trouble. He cant get into trouble for having previously used drugs
1 like@Real Memes nor are they going to bust him for drugs
0 likes@Samuel Blackthorne you have never had a random person offer you drugs? Maybe not meth unless theyre selling it. But coke sure
0 likes@Boogity Hoo I was an addict when I worked in a restarant. So was everyone around me
1 like@Tim Challenger Believe me, I was surprised as well! I knew I had to tell them because I knew neither of my stories in either case wouldn't even make sense if I didn't tell them about being addicted, but believe me.. I did NOT expect it to go that well! 😅
0 likesDetective: "no, yeah, I get it"
0 likesRespect the PFP. RIP Etika.
0 likes@Santeri Airaksinen for life👊🏾
0 likes@Liu Kang the alternative definition is any substance that affects mood or behavior (very vague); which reminds me of how some places in the US will convict you of a dui/dwi for having caffeine in your system...
0 likes@The Burden of Light he spent so long going over things in his head he forgot his place irl conversation.. but since it's obvious he's a suspect anyone with negative police experience would likely be doing the same thing, and/or especially if they have any kind of anxiety disorder (imo)... [I'm only 15 min into the video as I type this]
0 likes...3 min later, caught in several lies, well for a moment it reminded plausible that he was innocent, but as far as what they expect & are looking for, these videos almost always make me think if they were interviewing me and I was innocent then I would still look/sound really bad...
...[34min in] Wow, that was more brutal than I was expecting.
@zyme
2 likesIf they bring you in, get a lawyer.
@The Burden of Light that's the #1 thing I've learned; also there's some excellent YouTube videos out there with lawyers explaining all the ways people get in trouble even when they've done nothing wrong and are trying to help with an investigation...
0 likesHahaha this got me
0 likesWhen the female detective got emotional talking about her daughter being the same age as Savannah (whether feigned or not) caught me so off guard bc I'm so used to detectives trying to remain stoic and commanding.
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shes appealed to his emotions very successfully
32 likesVery true. I’m sure that her role in the interrogation was well thought out.
9 likes@Murray_14it was all planned. They double teamed him to throw him off, both with different angles.
21 likes@Murray_14 did you just not listen to the narration??
7 likes@Murray_14 get some help buddy
2 likesDetective: how do you know the victim?
1674 likesLee: "Picture it, Sicily, 1932"
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Hahaha dam, I was thinkg the same thing as I was scrolling through the comments! At least it wasn't a st Olaf story haha
16 likes@Jason Juneau lol I was thinking st loaf too! but rose doesnt have a catch phrase 😊
1 like@Jason Juneau my 2 favorite lines were from Blanche: "I'm jumpy as a virgin at a prison rodeo"
2 likesAnd the one where they're on a game show and the quote is "better late than [blank]"...
@Kelly Marie Always 😊👍💜
1 likeI understood that reference 🤭
0 likes"so I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time... "
4 likesThe best reply! 😂😂
1 like😂😂😂
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesJack Anderson nice 😂
0 likesLmao 🤣🤣🤣
1 likeThis made me CACKLE
1 likeFunny
0 likes😂🤣🤣😂😂
0 likes😂!!
0 likesi literally hate that this made me laugh because the video and story is so fucked up
0 likesThat's Sophia's line.
0 likesJack Anderson I’d love to see that! Do you have a photo?!
1 likeCan't wait to go the bone grill for
1 likeScabs, fries and a 5 dollar milkshake
we all just experienced killers blueballs when the video cut
0 likesDetective: “so how long have you known Savanna ?“
1318 likesLee: starts reading the terms and conditions
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im the 393 like :D
3 likes399th like :)
3 likesahahahahaha
0 likesIt's kinda scary cause I know I'd probably do that, even while being innocent,, ó . o)
1 likeEdit: Being a black man doesn't help either.
@Nicholas Moore fr just hope that u arent at the wrong place at the wrong time ig
1 likeInnocent people: "Yeah I knew here for a couple of years or so."
736 likesGuilty people: "Let me tell you the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise..."
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He kinda has to... it's not a story the jedi would tell them.
17 likesNot trying to troll. Have you ever been in a situation like this. Obviously not murder but someone you know or you have done something wrong?
0 likes@Coldcube Yeah best revenge is to be successful. They'll see and be livid haha
0 likesHe's a sheet jedi.
0 likeshahahahaha lol
2 likesInnocent people: Gives life story
0 likesYoutube commenter: "people that go into detail when asked a very open ended question are guilty".
i spit out my drink ahahah
0 likesGotta love chef that peels scabs off at work 🤭🤭🤭
0 likesWow... The lady was phenomenal. That was INTENSE. I have never seen an interrogation so emotional. That absolutely blew my mind. The dude's anxiety must have sky rocketed at that moment... just... I am in awe.
137 likes(On a side note both of them did an amazing job, it was just shocking to see/hear something like this)
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Lmao her just saying please over and over again had me laughing 😅 sounded like my girlfriend when I have a little bit of food left
5 likes@Richard Wikert she was really annoying I had to skip past that part
5 likesshe was trying too hard
0 likesHe’s talking a lot cuz he’s high on adderall 🤣🤣. Bad idea get high that day
0 likesImpossible to feel sorry for someone feeling sorry for himself because he can't master the basic 'don't murder people' premise.
71 likesI'm wheezing at the narrator talking about how peeling off scabs is not a good look for the Bonefish Grill. LOL.
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I can't stop laughing!!!!
22 likesTry our new scab chowder.
51 likes@Derric Dueker Eeeeww, surely worse than Paco's rubber band in George Costanza's soup.
8 likes@Priscilla S hey it's been five days now, have you stopped laughing yet?
6 likes@Ahmad Hejja cant stop that laughing grind
3 likesNow you know what's in the pan crusted halibut
3 likesBruh
1 like@Derric Dueker LOLLL
1 like@J Oh, HECK no! Eww! Hahaha.
0 likeshe failed to mention that a murderous head chef is a lot worse a look
1 like@J Doodoo fart.
0 likesBruh! When he said that he peeled them off at work, my eyes popped open…!
1 likeAnd then I remembered that he was a manager….
But I still can’t unhear that!
@Nikki Schar LOL. He's a manager, so it's OK. LOL. I'm dying.
0 likes@Ahmad Hejja I'm getting kinda worried man, its been 2 weeks
0 likesScab crusted tilapia
1 likeMaybe they will let him be kitchen manager in prison
0 likes“How long have you known Savannah?”
1215 likesLee: “It all started when my mom, met my dad. And they had me. Im Lee, and my life- is kinda crazy🤪”
Edit: woah i just checked the likes???- thanks guys this is the most ive ever gotten lol ❥ hope youre all doing well
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💀💀💀💀
5 likesopening theme starts playing
20 likesi- i feel like that's a reference to somoene but i dont know what
2 likesSounded like a dumb girl's dating profile bio 😂.
1 like@Cygnus Mutai I think it's an intro to a netflix series or smth, hope I don't get woooshed
1 like@aka 098 its a reference to gen z teen era disney movies 2000-2010
1 like@Johnny Davenport ooh i see, thanks
1 likeKind of like that one scene from Tucker and Dale vs Evil
1 like😭💀
1 likeDetective: Do you have kids?
1787 likesLee: No
Detective: One day when you have kids
He won’t have kids
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They were giving him hope 😆😆😆
46 likesHe’ll have plenty of donors too over the next 40 years 💦
18 likesTo be fair there's plenty of women who will offer to marry him even in prison and will bear his children the minute they can.
30 likesYou dont fall pregnant when you're a man...being bummed...by a man😂😂
5 likesActually women have kids with cons more often than we would like to believe.
12 likes@Simon 1985 Brain: that's funny, no rape isn't a joke...seconds later HAAAAAA!!
2 likes@Simon 1985 Oof
2 likesWell he's the one who duck up his life
0 likesHey all he needs is one conjugal visit, then when he gets out he has a middle aged kid
1 liketheres crazy people marry people in jail for murder
1 likeHopefully
0 likesSame thought 😆
0 likesButts don't get preggers 🤣
0 likesHe may but it will be with a man named jerome
0 likesHe didn't just 'snap' her neck, he fought with her in the back of his car for minutes and she nearly got away 3 times, he had every opportunity to let her go, instead he went too far and NOW he is concerned about his future and whimpers like a baby, he should have thought about his future when he was murdering her. Now he can be chef to his prison wives...
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Prison husbands*
25 likesHe’s tossing salads a whole new way.
30 likes@Ross Campbell stop it😂
3 likes@Joey PeepsGeezes. I hate that commercial with a f'ing passion lol
2 likes@Ross Campbell LMAOOOOO
1 likeLook, he is talking to himself about how stupid he is. He says at one point that Savannah treated him nice. He know's he ruined his life and he feels stupid. He should have simply walked away and he knows it. He's right, he seems fairly intelligent. I wish he hadn't have done it too. Murder is evil.
2 likesI would rather be murdered than murder someone. Hell's a bad place.
Prison wives?? Naa that is not how it works..
1 likeUnless he has someone who sends him canteen money he is in for a long miserable life where he deserves every second of pain. He will be Chef Cup o Noodles.
1 like@Ross Campbell He isnt gonna like it when they ask for EXTRA DRESSING
1 likeI'd surprised he didn't go with the rough sex accidental route. I mean, it would be bullshit, but hey, reasonable doubt.
0 likes@Useful Vidiots 😁😂🤣😅
0 likes*49 seconds
1 likethe crazy part is his sister was charged with murder in a unrelated case a year after this happened
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Their parents must be so proud. Oh wait, his mother...
128 likesHoly shit. Maybe something genetic?
33 likesthey may have considered themselves privileged..i dont see any other reason 2 suppress a convicted killers confession like this
17 likesSounds like the Jenkins siblings
8 likesOh my gosh, seriously?! That is just too insane! I can't even imagine!
11 likesS 😯
0 likes@Dick Lickersson that Jenkins case happened in the city I live in. People were livid, but not the prison officials that let him out...sad, sad story and a very sick family.
8 likesHe didn't give a shit about that girl all he cared was his life was gonna be in jail and could go in looking like he had been crying. If they really arrested him on a traffic offense he wouldn't give a shit about her he would live his life right on
19 likesPsycho jealous possessive types. Ladies AND gentleman, run after the first red flag!
14 likesYou've got to be kidding! Incredible.
2 likesdamn! I was about to make a joke about bad parenting; but then I remembered, during his autobiographical monologue, he said he had a rough upbringing. At least there’s one thing he didn’t lie about. Smh
9 likesGot a link??
1 likeWow their parents must be so proud!!
0 likes@Reptilian why would it be genetic, when his mother did amphetamine?? he just had a fucked childhood, like a ton of murderers etc.
3 likesa fucked childhood is the biggest risk factor in being a criminal.
You lying!!!
0 likeswhaaaaat that's wild- I'm going to end up in a google rabbit hole after that little info snack....jesus christ
1 likeS wow
0 likesSatanic bloodlines are a real thing.
0 likeswasn't this shit happening this year?
0 likesWhich channels would you recommend that are as good as JCS? Most of the "JCS inspired" channels are crap.
0 likesCase Update: He was sentenced to 40 years imprisonment in March of 2021. He plead self defense saying she slapped him repeatedly and he grabbed her neck and accidentally broke it. Then panicked and tried to hide the remains.
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Thanks a lot
9 likesTragic story, but I'm always amused by the absurd defenses they come up with at the last minute.
27 likesOfcourse he plead “self defence” 🙄
6 likesOh yeah. He totally needed to defend himself in that manner from an unarmed twig that weighs 100lbs soaking wet. BULLSHIT
8 likesHe was misinformed, it's death of 1000 stabs...not slaps 🤦♂️
2 likesuh huh so she attacked him but she was trying to escape through the back door THREE times before he ACCIDENTALLY broke her neck........
2 likes@Capt. Price Probably not if he’s healthy
1 like@Capt. Price he was given credit for almost 4 years "time served" at the age of 32 now he has 36 more years in jail so he will be about 68 when he can be free if he doesn't get paroled early. He was convicted of second degree murder and had worked out a plea deal to avoid life imprisonment so I'm not sure if being paroled is an option.
1 like@cake his defense was Florida's infamous Stand Your Ground... no lie 🙃
0 likes@huh ohh
2 likes@Jack of All Trades aha
2 likesHeroin does NOT cause paranoia. Ever. Weed , psychadelics, uppers, cocaine, meth, yes but opioids NO .
0 likesMost of the comments “ Never talk without lawyer” , instead of “Never kill anybody “
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@TheOutLaw Carpenter yup very true
7 likesthose are sarcasm
3 likestell that to all the innocent people in prison for 30 years
54 likesBecause "Never kill anybody" is not natural.
11 likesIf you need people to say "don't kill people it's bad" then society has gone beyond redemption. "Don't talk without a lawyer" can apply to innocent people or lesser felonies and is good advice.
49 likes@Jenni Exactly. EVERY criminal defense attorney will say, "Shut up and call me. I'll come down and do the talking".
13 likesI mean, it's LITERALLY what they get paid to do. I always called my lawyer (been interrogated 3 times), screw the dumb shit lol.
Never do either tbh
1 likeThis is for after you commit the crime
0 likesAlways call lawyer. Look up how many suspects confess to things they didn't do. Cops can get crazy with it. Obviously never kill anyone simple as that. But then you say something "wrong" to the cops and they assume you are guilty when you are not. "Am I under arrest or can I leave?" If you are under arrest "I want a lawyer" and again don't kill anyone
10 likesMost people don't need to be told not to kill someone. Most people do need to be told not to talk without a lawyer...
6 likesHahaha
0 likesnever kill anybody without a lawyer
7 likesWhy not? Its certain true for most of people who dont kill or harm anybody, because talking without having consulted a lawyer can actually get them in trouble.
0 likesWhat if I killed my lawyer and have nobody to talk to? 🤔
2 likes@Chappal Souls hey man. I'm here for ya.
1 likeDo what you want with a baddie lawyer, bruh.
3 likesMost importantly definitely didn't do both.
0 likesBecause some things are obvious they don't need to be said
0 likesWait, you're NOT supposed to kill people??? I wish that someone had told me that before I made my human skull drum set and cannibal chili business!!!
1 likeWell, at least I know not to talk to the cops without a lawyer.
One of them is obvious
0 likesMost people making comments like you are white . Clearly if you're a minority it doesn't matter if you're innocent or not. As soon as you hear it's MURDER you bette lawyer up
0 likes@KidArk there's always one
0 likesNever kill without your lawyer.
0 likesYeh....wot about...stay in school....or dont do drugs etc
0 likesProblem with that is sad as it is. People will find themselves in unbelievable situations. Everyone has the ability to kill someone. No non psychopathic people want to. But most people who murder aren't psychopaths as much as we want to believe they are.
0 likesI didn't know people need to be told never to kill anybody.
0 likes@Chappal Souls or... Maybe I should get my lawyer to commit the murder 😂
1 likeThe next video youtube recommends me to watch is "Don't talk to the police" by regent university school of law.
0 likesI agree with you but still gave you a thumbs down because you didn't have any thumbs downs and I felt like you needed at least ones thumbs downs.
0 likesEven if you are innocent, you should never talk without a lawyer.
1 likeOkay I amend.
0 likesNever kill anybody. But if you do, never talk to police without a lawyer. 😬
But also get lawyer if you didn’t kill 👍
@James Klark So lawyer help do the kill? Or they just supervisor?
0 likes@Sean Matthew King emotional support
0 likesNever talk to the police without a lawyer
0 likesMan that female detective did a fantastic job. Even made me feel guilty lol.
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Glad to see someone giving her positive attention. People keep calling her obnoxious and being sexist. Emotional manipulation seems amusing through a screen but not when it's happening to you.
18 likesI felt like I needed to confess to a crime that I haven't been accused of
2 likes"How do you know Savannah?"
257 likesThe enchantment table is an interactive block used to enchant certain items using experience points. Items that can be enchanted include: swords, pickaxes, shovels, axes, bows, books, fishing rods and armor. Enchantment tables alone typically have upgrades ranging from two to seven experience levels. If a player is within a certain range, the book on the table will open, face a player, and flip pages every several seconds. As of update 1.8, lapis lazuli is required to enchant items.
The chance of getting a better enchantment can be increased by placing bookshelves around the table. Only bookshelves that are two blocks away will add enchantments. When placed correctly, an animation of floating symbols moving into the book entity will occur. The text is written in the Standard Galactic Alphabet. The ideal position of bookshelves is a square of 15 placed in a 5x5-block outli
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kabbablabba bane of Arthropods
5 likesOh I get it 👍
0 likes???
0 likesLee: crying and mumbling at the realization that his life is over
2723 likesYouTube: Here, watch a Pizza Hut commercial
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DID YOU DO IT?!
49 likesFind out after the ad break.
Well Pizza Hut is my go to when I’m at rock bottom. It’s an expensive treat.
28 likesMakes me want to order a large stuffed crust and Pepsi.
8 likesNo one out pizzas the hut.
15 likesMine was for fancy moisturizer
4 likesHahaha I needed that
2 likeshere watch a soap commercial
2 likesI got an RSPCA ad. It’s sad, the ones in a cage don’t deserve it, and the ones that aren’t in a cage, deserve it
5 likesThanks for reminding me! Cheap pizza night!
3 likesI actually really like this. The universe is like "Do you like pizza? Of course you do! Everyone does! You know who else loves pizza? THIS guy. And he doesn't get any. Because he's in fucking prison. So don't do shit that gets you into prison. You won't get any fucking pizza."
15 likesThis is so funny. Kind of makes you realize for a second that we are like some characters in a strange strange comic book (or simulation).😄
0 likesAnd what's even funnier, in a way, is that while Lee had such a very experience here (in this comedy), it's not like others/most people will leave forever or something. I mean in about 50 years all humans living now will be dead, in a few thousand years or tens of thousands - first of all who knows how the life on Earth will be, second of all certainly all we ever loved will be dead, third of all maybe even the whole human species will be no more.
This, our existence, existence, is literally nonsensical. I don't mean to say life doesn't have any sense to it, let's be depressed, but in a way it is true that the whole situation is completely nonsensical.
And this if we think only about life on Earth. Now let's extend this to who knows how many "Earth's", how many "alien" civilizations, forms of consciousness, etc.
And knowing this all (because we do, we do know it, maybe mostly unconsciously we do know the state of affairs), we (most of us) still have (illogical, unreasonable) fear of death, have different ridiculous fears in our lives, etc.
Sorry, don't mean to be depressing, just a computer trying to process the information, I guess. 😄
The ad they gave me was actually Little Caesars. What does that mean?
1 like@Brody Austin You don't get 5 dollar pizzas in prison
1 like@Brody Austin means you can have cheap pizza day whenever you want. Their prices are QUITE affordable.
0 likesI got a becel ad😅
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
0 likesHahahahaha!!!
0 likesWhat the fuck are ads)
2 likesWe still need ta sell shit!
0 likesDude, I loled for 5 straight minutes 😂😂
1 likeIn jail, he’ll be the pizza. Or pie. I’m 🥴
0 likesLmaoooo
0 likesEarn to point to get free pizza.
0 likesHere an advertisement for a carport
0 likesYes, we wil stick to YouTube lol
0 likes@Florida bathsalts man When I was in prison in Missouri, once a month or so they would sell McDonald's burgers or pizzas and you could buy it with money on your books. So maybe he can Haha
0 likes@Maxim P “in about 50 years all humans living here will be dead”
0 likesWhat? How did you get this information.
@rafer Jefferson iii
0 likesJesus... 50, 60, 80, whatever. If someone now is say 20, how much of useful time you think one could have? About 50 years.
The lady cop sounds soo fake
0 likes@Tijjy O commercials
0 likesBath fitter here!
1 likeas long as it's not for bonefish lmao
1 likei got a quantas ad
0 likesLeast you didn't get an ad for Bonegrill after Lee annouced he picked his scab at work
0 likesD
0 likesPizza Hut is leaving my country Lebanon so my life is over too 😢
0 likes💀
0 likesNothing out pizzas the hut
0 likes🤣🤣 accurate
0 likesMine is that damn Lume deodorant commercial. I've seen it like 1000000 times. "I certainly didn't invent deodorant......."🤣
0 likes@Maxim P easy elon😉
0 likes@Erika On Con
1 likeMusk? He's nothing but a celebrity, a mirage, for impressionable adolescents and adults, that adore him and science like Jesus and the Bible. And that are lead to believe that they too can become billionaires. People should check out who his parents were, how rich they were...
@CrazyMiles
0 likesJesus Christ is not better than Elon Musk, so...
@Maxim P I was kidding
0 likesCop: How long have you know Savannah?
1624 likesLee: "Everything changed when the fire nation attacked"..
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😭💀
8 likes😂😂😂😂
7 likesHahahaha
2 likesOHMYGOD THE COMMENTS ARE HILARIOUS HAHAHAHA
2 likesAyoooo lmaooo
1 like.. huh?
0 likes@iamupinacloud Lee: " Everything changed when the fire nation attacked. There she was. A lonely, beautiful castaway hiding beneath the shambles of her former home. Trying to fend off the very flames that caused it. I rushed to aid her in the nick of time preventing the destructions claim of another victim. I covered her as we ran through a rain of fire and brimstone with nothing but a cloak. Each passing second possibly being our last. We soon find shelter in a convenient 2012 Chevy malibu. We then locked eyes. Her gaze shined brighter than the very fire that consumed her home. Her beauty met no bounds, but there was a problem. Continuing to fall for her would cost me my job. (My village has yet to collapse) Despite my pleas for a friendship, she was high on heroine and wasn't fucking with the idea. Then she got out and got in a green truck with some earth benders. Haven't seen her since."
0 likesHahahaha
0 likesThe commentator”damatory moments”????🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesDetective: "when was the last time you saw savannah?"
1954 likesLee: "this story begins 7.3 billion years ago when the Earth was nothing more than a molten ball of lava orbiting around a young sun..."
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lmao
2 likesThe Earth is about 4.6 billion years old man...
27 likes@I. Tughuzh no you're confusing your mom, they're both as big so i can understand
22 likes@I. Tughuzh Why would you get on YT and lie to me like this???
9 likes@BROJAK HORSEMALE I mean he’s right tho
17 likes@BROJAK HORSEMALE he is right tho
11 likes@Krispy Bacon o ok
1 like@I. Tughuzh were you there when it was created?
1 like@Dungeon Master no i wasnt but i understand basic physics so i can show u how it happened. WITH NUMBERS!
1 like@Kyle Alexander meh. Without conducting the experiment there's no way to know.
0 likesWell It started this way
2 likesOur whole universe was in a hot dense state then nearly 13 billion years ago expansion started wait.
@samtrue3 lol. Big bang. OP comment is off by a few billion years but wats a few billion between friends
4 likes@Kyle Alexander some friendships span lifetimes
2 likesSome friendships feel like forever
And Some friendships happen before the big bang and you have to wonder what kind of eldritch dark god they are and that is not OK
@samtrue3 eldritch dark god? Care to elaborate?
1 likeAnd 10% maths 👍
0 likesHhhhhhhhhh God!
0 likesI was with her for 17 minutes after she passed out
0 likesLee: "Everybody get comfortable."
2 likes@I. Tughuzh 6000 !!
0 likesEpic
0 likes@I. Tughuzh who cares, it’s a joke in a YT comment section.
0 likesI didn’t even read this chain but brojak horse male is the chillest username ever
0 likes@I. Tughuzh you’re correct but I can’t help but feel you missed the point
0 likes@BROJAK HORSEMALE
0 likesYou nailed it sweetie! That's the best reply I have ever read on here! 😅 Absolutely brilliant 👏👌😄
"WHERE DID YOU GO WITH HER."
0 likesI like how the female detective acts emotional to make him think she's weak and possibly lying about the cctv then a few moments later crushes his thought process by revealing his exact route.
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@Francois Turgeon Exactly lol
2 likes@Francois Turgeon thats why it's so unnerving. imagine if u were in the same room as her
1 likeThe bow tie looks ridiculous on that guy.
0 likes“She just did heroin and she was anxious”
1581 likes“Actually you’re wrong.”
Tell em narrator!
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i'm also jumpin and hollerin when the narrator interrupts and be like scuuuuuuuuuuuse me thas a lie and thas a lie....i be screamin!
43 likesread this exactly as it happened in the video. Im surprised
6 likesactually, you're wrong. he said she was paranoid not anxious.
4 likes@tomer nurilov there was a better way of saying that
1 likeGiving me Dangan Ronpa vibes lmaooo
3 likesHe has a name goddamnit !
0 likes@tomer nurilov WE GOT EM BOYS!!!
0 likes@Bored Skitarri I’m sorry! This was my first video and I made this comment before I learned his name!!
0 likes@L8dyPsych0 It's okay, I was joking.
1 likeAs a recovering heroin addict I can totally understand being paranoid while high. You’ve just committed a felony and possibly have more of the felony substance on you, it’s true that you’ll normally not give a fuck about anything but depending on the dose I wouldn’t say it’s impossible.
1 likeJimmy I was getting worried but glad you’re back. Best channel on YouTube and television!
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Hank Hell : Is this also a tv show?
1 likeHank Hell please tell us what TV show
1 likehe means better than any tv show.
1 likecar keys oh 😂
0 likesChristina Acevedo no I meant that it’s superior to what’s on tv
2 likesNot a fan of the female interrogator. Begging, interrupting, and emotional 🤔
1 likeThat female detective is awesome. Stoic and silent for most of the interrogation, but as soon as the pressure is applied she dials it up to 11
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You might be right, but I have doubts. I think she was annoying. I also think a man who would kill a pretty 21 y/o girl isn’t going to take a hysterical begging woman seriously.
95 likes@weedshoes my exact thoughts. I think the male officer did all the job there. I am not an expert but that's just how I saw it
29 likes@weedshoes She wasn't hysterical, i'd be careful with that word if I were you. She was appealing to his moral sense. She put immense pressure on him and the overwhelming evidence did the rest. how can you continue lying when it's known for a fact that what you're telling is false ?
74 likesshe was annoying . women use too much emotions
26 likes@TANKTHEARC seems kinda sexist but OK
84 likes@TANKTHEARC Be quiet muppet
61 likes@Rocky Gordon she was obviously exaggerating to amplify the shock factor. She easily dialed it back down. It’s all trained tactics vs “out of control hysterical”. And it worked. And obviously the role was given to the female to act out
45 likes@TANKTHEARC You must be a hit with the ladies
29 likes@TANKTHEARC "women use too much emotion" as if killing someone out of anger had nothing to do with emotions😑
59 likes@Amber van der HooftWhat? Why are you comparing the two things haha? It’s not as if only one of those has to be an emotional action? He never even mentioned him, he mentioned her performance in the interview. Not what he’s accused of. Bizarre comment hahah
1 like@Tootle "women use too much emotion" is a general statement, if it was just about this lady, he could have said "this woman uses too much emotion". While I do think this lady is a bit annoying, I don't see why people always feel the need to say that "women use too much emotion", while men act out of emotion all the time too🙄
24 likes@Amber van der Hooft Yeah I feel you but no ones saying men don’t. It’s not really a gender debate. Men act with violence too much. But no one would respond to that and say ‘hey but women are violent as well’.
2 likesannoying one .. maybe this murderer just falls for women
0 likes@TANKTHEARC in this new day and age you can't say women are to emotional that gets them very emotional you gotta say how women are brave and strong
1 like@weedshoes no but it did throw him off, you can tell he stopped being assured and confident after that, as if he had just been scolded by his mom. He wasn't expecting something like that so he lost his charismatic composure completely
3 likes@weedshoes Hysterical? Did I go back in time and am not aware of it? The misogyny in your comment and comment of many others is out of this world.
3 likes🤔 she started out good but I think she came on too strong towards the end. hashtag armchair detective
0 likesBegging tactic is annoying asf lol
3 likes@weedshoes Spot on, he probably had thoughts of killing her too. Very unprofessional
0 likesidk out of all the investigators these two seemed to be the most bush league
0 likes“How well do you know Savannah?”
506 likes“Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so...”
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whittyjd more like “In a galaxy far far away......”
11 likesI R O N I C
1 like😂Wtf?🤣 Awesome comment... 🤷♀️👍👏👏👏
0 likesHe beat her so bad that they couldn't even determine the exact cause of death. Let that sink in.
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There's an obvious joke here but this case is too recent so I'm not going to write it.
41 likesHe burned her that's why they couldn't determine the exact cause of death
257 likes@casbyness Comedy knows no boundaries my friend
53 likes@THE xMist Well fine then. I was going to point out that as a fish chef, he didn't beat her. He obviously battered her.
324 likesSee, now we've offended everyone XD
bruh
15 likes@casbyness lool cant lie made me chuckle
35 likesthey couldn't determine cause he burnt her body bruh!!
11 likes@casbyness LMAOO hell. straight to hell.
20 likes@casbyness 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
6 likesYo, anyone who laughed at @casbyness‘s joke, need me to save a spot? You know, when we all reach hell, I’ll keep some hot seats reserved 😂
28 likes@casbyness wtf
6 likes@casbyness BAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
3 likes@casbyness Jesus has left the chat
8 likes@casbyness lool
2 likeshe also threw the burned body in a lake... let that sink in
17 likes@emma You mean that place that hath no fury like a woman scorched🔥? :okillshowmyselfout:
2 likes@iCherrryz .........naughty naughty
2 likes@casbyness I don’t believe any jokes should be off limits, you should just be careful who you say them too. If somebody gets offended by it, they should just ignore it it’s not on the joke teller
2 likes@casbyness lmfao
2 likes@casbyness ........go away please.
1 likeLet that sink in 🚪
2 likes@iCherrryz oh okay good one lol
0 likes@THE xMist Comedy do have boundaries. Haven't you heard comedians get in trouble for the wrong jokes?
1 likeHe got me when he said what’s wrong with you ngl but when he didn’t plead guilty after everything I’m just done
2 likes@Ahmed Anssaien oh....ahhh... that's bad, lmao. I'm going to hell for laughing at this one. 🤣🤣
1 like@casbyness lol
0 likes@casbyness God damn that was better than expected lmfao
0 likesI feel bad for him. God have mercy.
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What if Savannah was your daughter?
0 likes@Mls Ysm I’d be angry and have a loss that could never be replaced. But at some point I’d hope Jesus would release me of unforgiveness
0 likes"How long did you know her?"
3740 likesLee: "She did heroin."
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Yeah, and did you notice he mentioned "She went missing for three or four days from work"? He may as well have added, "So I don't think you guys should be thinking she's been murdered or anything like that."
126 likesHey Lucy
6 likes@Lady Marmalade yess I thot that to and fact is normal people would never catch on to wat he is trying to do ‼️‼️
3 likesMe: Do you happen to have her dealer? 🤔
1 like😂
1 likeWhen you put it like that 😂😂
0 likes@David Anthony Franco not funny dawg
0 likes@Cashandra Doe you need to go to school. if you graduated your school cheated you. If you dropped out go back.
3 likes@FISHIN MAGICIAN what was the use of this comment ?
1 like@David Anthony Franco me. R THE DEALS GOOD
1 like@Pac 666 😂🤣😂
0 likes@Cashandra Doe I would. It’s called suspicion.
0 likes“She did some drugs, I did some drugs, not the same drugs she did but I did some drugs”
0 likes"So, tell us about yourself"
3140 likescase closed.
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Lol
6 likes😆😆😆
2 likesLmao
1 likeAs soon as he attached it to his MOTHER? Game set match
12 likesYup!!😂😂😂😂😂
10 likesThat Addie was game over for him son.
😳
He might as well have chased the dragon like baby goku and taken a big ol fat hit of some chach before walking in there!!
His guilt was too much... Oh well
1 likeI like when the vehicle was shaking back and forth
2 likesThose drugs 🤦🏽♂️
1 likeHaha
0 likes@Judah Max exactly!
0 likesvery intense
0 likesDetective: "How long have you known her?"
904 likesLee:
"Now, this is a story all about how
My life got flipped-turned upside down
And I liked to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air
In west Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground was where I spent most of my days
Chilling out maxing relaxing all cool
And all shooting some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys who were up to no good
Started making trouble in my neighbourhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
She said 'You're moving with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'
I begged and pleaded with her day after day
But she packed my suite case and send me on my way
She gave me a kiss and then she gave me my ticket.
I put my walkman on and said, 'I might as well kick it'.
First class, yo this is bad
Drinking orang juice out of a champagne glass.
Is this what the people of Bel-Air Living like?
Hmm this might be alright.
But wait I hear they're prissy, bourgeois, all that
Is Bel-Air the type of place they send this cool cat?
I don't think so
I'll see when I get there
I hope they're prepared for the prince of Bel-Air
Well uh the plane landed and when I came out
There was a dude who looked like a cop standing there with my name out
I ain't trying to get arrested yet
I just got here
I sprang with the quickness like lightening, disappeared
I whistled for a cab and when it came near
The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror
If anything I can say this cab is rare
But I thought 'Now forget it' - 'Yo homes to Bel Air'
I pulled up to the house about seven or eight
And I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo, homes smell ya later'
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air."
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The full version doesn't get enough respect.
13 likesYou Deserve my Respect
6 likesunderrated comment
7 likesPLEASE ICANT BREATHE LMFAOOO
3 likesUnderrated comment
1 liketoo long joke dude, I thought I was dying in half of it, I stopped reading sorry
3 likes😂
0 likesThis comment is important, if only because it’s the extended intro. 🧳 ✈️ 🍊🥂 🚕 🎲
2 likes💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
1 likeA detective that begs a suspect to confess. What a shameful video.
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It's a tactic doofus
2 likesWatching him at the end squirming, crying, all over the place actually felt amazing to watch, it's only a fraction of how that poor girl Savannah must have felt.
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it is very weird to see how... human? He still is, even after comitting such a heinous act. Most of us probably know that feeling, wanting to disconect yourself to reality, wondering why the hell you are in this situation, just not to that degree of guilt. Weird af
12 likesI gotta say, when he said “last time I’ll get to wear a chef’s coat” and zipped it up I did go “aww that’s kinda-WAIT NO”
1 likeHow? Yes, he murdered another human yet he is still a person. He obviously regretted it and I can’t imagine how horrifying it must be to feel the guilt he felt. Feeling the humanity seep away. And again what he did is horrible and just as I can’t imagine what he had to go through I can’t imagine the grief Savannah’s family went through as well as the terror she must have felt moments before her murder. I’m just saying, he is a human.
1 like“Probably not the best advertisement for the Bonefish Grill, if their head chefs are peeling their scabs off at work” 😭😭😂😂
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Killing people isn't the best advertisement, either, but that at least doesn't potentially ruin the food (unless body parts are put into it).
56 likesBodenlose Dosenhose if Gordon Ramsay kills a dude and I find out he’s working in the local jails kitchen you best believe I’m skipping some parking tickets hoping for a meal or two...
31 likesI first read this the exact moment that this came up in the video
6 likesLove when that happens
🤢
3 likesThey called it a "casual" restaurant. Where I am people line up an wait hours for it 🤣
1 likeGross but it was a lie. I noticed he washed his hands after using the toilet.. I could tell as he wiped his hands on his pants. lol
6 likes🤢
1 likelmaooo
0 likesHey it’s better than saying it’s actually a scratch mark from this waiter I killed
3 likes@Enceladus mostly the scabs though
1 likeThe wounds were fresh, there were no scabs. It was a smart answer, meant to explain why the wounds looked fresh. Hoping to indicate that they were more than two days old.
1 likeI know right lol not necessary rn bro
0 likesBonefish Grill - the name in itself sounds just disgusting
1 likebone-appetit
1 like@Stephen Grogan I kid you not, he turns himself into a pickle, he's called pickle rick. Funniest shit I've ever seen
0 likesThe best part of the whole video 😂
0 likes@josh6 same!!
0 likes@Jane Doe Maybe he peed on his hand
0 likesThe saddest thing about this is that it’s more than likely she was killed in his car in the middle of a large parking lot, with what looked like a lot of general traffic in the area
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There is hella traffic there I used too live 7 minutes from bone fish grill
1 likeTrevor Davis it’s really sad and such a shame no one noticed the struggle going on in the car
6 likes@Nevin Kapi chances are, someone may have but its called survival, self preservation. Sounds horrid I know but its the truth. One of my sisters knew that my mum was abusing me when I was little and even tried to intervene one day but was told to stay out of it and she did. Most likely for fear for her own self.
7 likes@Skip Haskell fear of what dude? they could've just called the police no need for them to intervene personally
10 likes@l4ur Exactly!
2 likesBystander effect is brutal.
2 likessometimes you genuinely don't notice it.
6 likesif you drive you are focused on the road, the lights, other cars, etc...
if you walk you might be exausted, or stressed thinking at "that thing"or any other situation, we are often absorbed in our activities or thoughts. that's why we employ people whos job is to vigilate and look actively.
Yall.... I'm in Jax Fl.... nobody pays attention. There's traffic, and it's hot as shit!!! People are moving along. Nobody cares about anybody else in this city. Lol
3 likes@Christie Crawford never had my windows down except cracked to smoke when I lived in Florida, nobody probably would of heard anything
0 likes@Skip Haskel That's terrible dude.. hope you are fine now and that you know this wasn't your fault in any way.
0 likesSometimes adults have a dispute and it isn't appropriate to intervene. We can't hear sound, she might not have been able to scream while the door was open. People that are scared should at least intervene with a group or call the police in that case
0 likesSkip Haskell at a young age, that’s understandable, but any grown adult that would have seen a struggle of that kind(a murder or atleast incapacitation) going on should have intervened, I understand the whole idea that you don’t necessarily want to get into some strangers drama, believe me, I understand the thought, but having the philosophy or mentality to say you wouldn’t be curious and investigate, as an adult, a car bobbing up and down, the back door opening and shutting and likely some amount of muffled talking, is coweredly. Maybe I’m just a wanna be hero, but if I had even the slightest inclination that something inappropriate was going on, I’d have sprinted towards that direction and at the very least investigated. I’m not blaming anyone but man, I wish I was in that area at the time.
0 likesThe lady detective f’ed it up
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How so?
0 likes@DONUT she became too emotionally invested and began pleading instead of stating in control. Her tactic undermined the previous investigators progress
0 likes@Omzzz Z She knew she was a woman and could get away with using an emotional tactic. She was a big reason why they got a confession out of him.
1 like@Omzzz Z it's a tactic. Look how she changes tactics as soon as he starts confessing at the uncut interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s
0 likesMmmm... Miserable interrogation? Aah...but guess it worked... Já...
0 likesI thought about your vids while being inteviewed for shoplifting uahaha
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But these coppers wernt so smart
0 likesAs a very nervous talkative person that always feels the need to prove myself to others, I would seem so guilty in an interrogation room 😂
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@Damien Breslin meowsers
1 likeNaahh, unless the evidences are all pointing at you.
1 like@Arbiter of Truth yes that's sad, there's alot of people like that.
0 likesNo i thought that too but apparently if you’re truly innocent your survival instinct will override every feeling of nervousness because you know you’re being pressed for something you didn’t do.
1 likeIn that moment you would be more nervous about being found guilty and it would override the social awkwardness type of nervous 😺
0 likesYup me too. I don't agree with the narrator that an innocent party would give quick concise answers when asked about the victim (idk maybe because I've never been interrogated), if I was asked, I'd give a short story about how I know the person to try and prove my innocence
1 like@Arbiter of Truth no I meant specifically the question about how you know the person. With the other questions I agree with you
0 likesI think when a situation like this becomes real you would act different, more normal
0 likesActually looking at the Guilty until proven innocent video on this channel, you have little to worry about. Likely you would not be that nervous or talkative. If you were super innocent, of course. In any case, the only course of action is to shut up anyway. Especially if you are innocent.
0 likesHahahahahaha fingers crossed you never get arrested on suspicion of murder. I will be your character witness
0 likesalways get a lawyer lmao even if you’re innocent
1 likeI doubt you would say dumb shit to an obvious answer question of how you
0 likesKnow someone.
If someone asked how I know my husband I’d be like he’s my husband. I wouldn’t say wellllll it all started 5 years ago etc etc
I am a rambler too but this guy reeks of guilt.
"So how do you know savannah?"
3232 likesLee: Here's a 10 page essay on why I'm guilty
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I literally lolled. Take my like u clever bastard
52 likesFUCKING DEAD
6 likes🤣🤣🤣
6 likes@AIS AIS?
2 likesYeah. This guy is practically convicting himself. Hook him up with Jodi Arias.
17 likesthats what adderall will do to you in situations like this haha
11 likesLol
0 likes@Tony Stankard 🤣
0 likesShhh guys, it's the fuzz ^.^
0 likesBest comment ever haha
1 like😂
0 likesyo, the female detective is freaking good. the pleading pat which sounds "cringy" to you was actually well done and would affect a person in a similar situation a lot. i never got interrogated by police but i got my fair share of interrogation from school and university for appeals on stuff.
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Still cringy and annoying. If it works, awesome, I'd hope so.
4 likesOkay, actually more on that: why? They are trying to appeal to someone who may or may not (probably is) a psychopath; how is that supposed to work? What's the psychology of that?
2 likesI thought it was cringe and kinda annoying myself but I remember a male friend saying once that the voice of a woman crying sometimes makes you feel very uneasy because of a the high pitch and I guess I never thought of that, maybe it do works.
5 likes@Marisol Chávez That makes sense! Thank you!
3 likesMurdered over a manager position at Bonefish Grill?!
451 likesMy God!! That is truly miserable.
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That part gets me the most in this whole case. It really sounded like she was murdered to save a job but no job is worth that. Especially one in a chain restaurant. It's so tragic and absurd at the same time!
42 likesYes cause those fast food workers are no one special
1 like@maroon Forsyth no one said that. But killing someone over a job, especially a job that isn't some multi million dollar or crazy high income one, is even more sad. This poor girl lost her life for a restaurant job to be saved. That should feel sad to literally anyone.
46 likesthat's how serious a job is in these times
6 likesRight?! I bet the punk gave her drugs the first time, to hook up with her... Oldest evil trick in the book. And he was probably still with his girlfriend that he mentioned. Careful out there ladies!
23 likesGood jobs are difficult to come by, if you find one you gotta make sure you do everything in your power to keep it!
3 likes@Sunday Mourning never s*it where you sleep, and never get your sex where you get your checks!
14 likeswelcome to the usa
0 likesI don’t think so. I think part of the transcription was in error. It sounded like he said Savanna was so nice to him and he hurt her for someone that was a bitch to him. What sense does that make? I think this had to do with another girl.
1 likeI hope to god there was more to it the that. Like she was going to dime him out for selling drugs or SOMETHING at least a little substantial Jesus
0 likes@Peace Freedom i thought he said "savannah was so nice to you, for someone who was such a bitch to you. how does that make any sense?"
1 likeAll of this over a job at a fish place makes no sense. If it were a KFC, though...
1 like@Jax Hacks Major facts!
0 likeswell staff eat free so you can't blame him
3 likes@Art Vandelay
2 likesAn excellent point.
16:35 The fact that the detective actually played along, and had him draw the route she took when she “left his car” was brilliant.
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It was check mate by then.
13 likes@Andy T Yup. The more details they can get him to give about an easily disproven lie the better. People can say "Oops i misspoke" or "i'm sorry i didn't understand what you were asking" or "i answered wrong because I didn't understand the question". All of those defenses evaporate once you get him explaining the fake details. Get him to give as much details as possible so there can be no confusing at all with what he is claiming.
6 likesLee’s story about taking an Adderall on a whim is obviously bs, and maybe a cover for meth or coke use. Stimulants are sadly pervasive in the restaurant industry and they can fuel success in the short term, but you pay for it with your sanity.
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Well, adderall is an amphetamine as well. If you're not prescribed it it's only less illegal than coke/meth, still not legal.
30 likesThis is true unfortunately, good observation.
5 likesHow do they fuel your success
2 likes@Luke Stockstill Kitchen work requires immense energy and sustained focus.
35 likes@Luke Stockstill kitchen work means long, long hours in a hot kitchen, it's fast paced, there's a lot to do and taking amphetamines will keep you awake, focused and productive short term. It's pretty common in the food service industry
22 likesI'm calling bullshit on the fact he hadn't used Adderall in forever and then just HAPPENED to use it the day before.
16 likesAs someone who is not only a server but the occasional drug user, I can confirm that most restaurant employees are on drugs, even at a nice restaurant in a very nice area, most employees are at the very least recovering addicts
9 likesAs someone with adhd it always trips me out whenever people take Adderall or anything similar because it makes them feel less tired because like I’ve been on Adderall and it has the opposite effect on me
8 likes@Justin Crediblename i got addicted to opiods doing kitchen work which seems like a strange choice but it has a sort of endless energy about it, you dont get bored on them and you can take any physical punishment. Only problem is endless itching whilst youre meant to be making food
1 like@Normal Human honestly that’s how I found out I had ADHD in the first place I took an Adderall at the party and it just made me feel normal
2 likesI’ve worked in kitchens for the last 16 years and I can confirm. 80% of the staff I work with do some type or of drug, myself included.
0 likesYeah that was my first thought. Even the line about "not taking one since highschool" is a lie he's probably told 100 times before.
0 likes@george bird Its the itchy nose that gives you away!
0 likesI believe him on that part. Its not unheard of to experiment when you're young, I did it but never once tried meth. I think he tried it again with her and got hooked.
0 likes“I’m going to die in jail.”
274 likesBetter than the backseat of some freak’s car. He deserves worse.
This is SERIOUSLY disturbing to see this and to know there are people like this in society we'll never know!!
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for me its comforting 🤷♀
0 likes@Pine Hill Prophit it is comforting lee will be with he’s own kind. What makes me uncomfortable is the realization, many more people like lee are still around us.
2 likesanyone can make a mistake there was no need for this high sententce poor dude
0 likes@peter henderson WTF.
3 likeson 2nd thought, I'd Agree with you mate, once you drop your full actual name and address right here.
@Narendra M excuse me why should i share my personal info with you?
0 likes@peter henderson To report you of course, who in their sane mind feel bad for this dude other than his own kind.
5 likes@Narendra M u dont know what ur thalking bout kid every human being is capable of making mistakes in life and dont u see that this mister feels bad for what he did and dont forget he probably gonna do some time in jail so his life and career are also ruined
0 likes@peter henderson 1. You lost any credibility for your argument when you call the other end "kid" to make your point.
6 likes2. This "mister" feeling or not feeling bad after the fact doesn't really make a difference. Maybe a judge might think he's still human if this "mister" regrets and/or feels bad.
3. I still stick with my prior comments- you REALLY need to weigh your life choices to defend or justify or feel bad this "mister"
This will be my last reply unless you have something worth saying.
@Narendra M ofcourse it makes a difference if a person has rumorse and really feels bad of what he did.
0 likes2. i have never justified his actions or defending him my point is look at the story from his point of view cuz there s ALWAYS 2 sides of a story.
3. dont let hate overwhelm you and may jezus bless you and provide you
@peter henderson His sentence was pretty low.
4 likes@Narendra M you cant just report someone or have their name and adress cus you dont like what they said lol who do you think you are detective dipshid?
0 likes@Yemum isanicelady My God! Take a hint! that's just an expression.
2 likesyeast
0 likesI don’t understand why people feel sorry for Lee.
24 likesDoesn’t matter if Savannah attacked him or tried to blackmail him, normal people don’t murder
Lee is an idiot
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u dont know lee and he is sure not an idiot
0 likes@peter henderson u know lee ?
0 likes@Bollywood Only i spent 4 years with him back in highschool.
0 likes@peter henderson should’ve kept your boyfriend on the straight and narrow then pal
0 likes@JZimmerman28 i did all i had in my power son
0 likesHonestly, if i was in this situation i'd probably still incriminate myself. Even if i were innocent. I guess that's why there are so many cases of forced confession and coercion.
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LAWYERRRRRR
8 likes@THE number 2 doesn't matter everyone can't afford a Lawyer dude
1 like@Robert Joseph that's why in basically every nations criminal justice system you can get a public defender, a lawyer paid by the state in case you are unable to afford one.
4 likesYep, It happened to me. I was only 14 so I was very naive and ended up getting charged with something I didn't do
2 likesThis is why you should always just deny everything. If all else false, DENY. There are many innocent people who get convicted of crimes because they’re scared into doing so by hearing the list of charges they COULD face if they plead not guilty and are found guilty anyways.
0 likesThis channel is amazing. I don't know how I found it, but I can't stop watching it! The explanations of what is happening are awesome!
18 likesI can’t imagine the stress these killers are going through when they realize the game is up.
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Have you seen the interrogation of Russel Williams? There is a moment when he's confronted with the evidence and he just sits silently for about 30m while he processes the fact that he's been caught.
0 likesI could watch the beginning of that interrogation go on forever, I'm really happy they got justice for that poor girl but I'm sure if they let rodarte keep talking he'd turn a simple short answer question into a description of all the Spider-Man movies
5 likesAs someone with autism I tend to over explain about everything, especially when there is a story behind it.
18 likesMultiple times I have been accused of various things and even wrongfully arrested because I struggle with eye contact and tend to panic ramble when I am asked a question.
If I was in this guys situation but I was innocent, I would almost certainly get accused of something.
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Id argue you'd never be in this situation as long as you don't murder anyone...
0 likes@Barry Hildreth In theory I agree, but I am one of those people that just seems to get in trouble, being accused of things I know nothing about. I remember being sat at the police station some years back, no idea why I was there and trying to understand what I could have possibly done wrong. When I found out what I was actually accused of (property damage of some sort) I didn't know what to say or how to explain myself, so I went into extreme detail, trying to remember every little thing I saw that evening. I even explained how I remembered seeing someone with the same jacket as me, with a bandaged up blood covered hand, and that just made them believe me less still. I am also extremely claustrophobic so when they tried to put me in a cell I put up a fight and then went into a full blown panic attack. They called out a paramedic who checked me over and it just so happened that during that time they found the person who had actually done the damage....with witnesses! They let me go shortly after and didn't even say sorry or anything.
2 likesI have had similar experiences too but not quite as bad. Once my car broke down due to a power failure so I had to fix the issue there and then, but I was on the edge of an industrial estate, and I only pulled in there because by car light and power kept cutting on and off. ANyway I was trying to work on the issue (bad battery terminal connection) and had no tools, so was trying to find a way to wedge it on tighter. Anyway the police turned up and asked what i was doing, and again I went into extreme detail so they would understand, and within minutes my car was surrounded by police cars and they tried to put me in handcuffs whilst they searched my car. Again I panicked and fought back and tried to explain my situation and that I cnt be restricted like that as I cant cope with it.
So they just held me there while the others searched my car.....and found nothing.
The problem is that I always go instantly into so much detail without even realising until afterwards.
I know these situations are very minor, but it shows how someone like myself can end up in a bad situation despite being totally innocent. I guess though that proper investigators would likely take this into consideration, but still, it does make me worry that I could end up on the wrong side of the law again due to a misunderstanding.
@HyTyde I agree, it just makes me worry is all. Then again normal police are somewhat different than the ones who interrogate people, so I guess it would be less of a concern.
1 like@Island Visions well I am sorry to hear you have to deal with that disability other regular. It sounds like you are a very adjusted person none the less, and I commend you for it.
1 likeI stand behind my original statement. I understand your perspective, but my only point was they don't run around accusing innocent people of murder. There is a high standard for evidence and you should never find yourself in a situation where you are a suspect, unless you should be. If you are, be thankful for the preponderance of evidence that will exonerate you. Cell phone records, cctv, DNA, etc will cross you off the list in short order.
I hope that clears up what I was saying. Cheers.
I also suffer from autism and I’m almost certain I would immediately have a panic attack as soon as I was accused of anything
1 likeEven though he was into drugs and stuff, he seems to be building a life for himself, becoming a manager, a chef and all, yet in some moments of madness he lost everything, became a murderer. Mind is a strange thing, given the right conditions, the mind can totally possess a human, as if, human goes into some auto pilot mode, seemingly nicest people can flip 180, of course not every flip turns to murder, but definitely very unpredictable, and substance abuse doesn't help. Now he got 40 years to regret and ask forgiveness from Savannah, but will he ever forgive himself?
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Deep bro
3 likesWell said. Life can add up and if not dealt with in a healthy way when it releases all at once things we never thought we were capable of can happen. The choices we make can either free us or eventually cause some to loose all freedom.
6 likes@Travis Garrett Some pretty cool self-realizations in your "My gift to you" video. I agree "we can chose how we react".
0 likesyeah u get it thats why the dude deserves a second chanche in life !
2 likesHe shows no signs of remorse
1 likeHe doesn’t need to forgive himself because he doesn’t feel the guilt
keep in mind that for every video you see of such suspects like Lee, there are 10 times as many that never make this 'mistake' and ask for a lawyer....
13 likesThese two interrogators made me feel guilty!
12 likesThey were so good!
for anyone who is wondering he was found guilty and he was sentenced to 40 years in prison on march 11th 2021
34 likesI hope no one believes anymore the urban legend of having to wait 24 hours to file a missing persons report
7 likesIf something is amiss, get to the police or start your own investigation immediately, dependent upon whether you wanna deal with the police or not
DO NOT WAIT!!!
Your child’s/wife’s/mother/brother/fathers/family members life depends on you not waiting
I always laugh at Lee when he's a sniveling man child at the end. If only he had that same amount of pity and regret before strangling and murdering Savannah.
14 likesLook at how they leave him literally cornered. You gotta appreciate the psychological aspects behind the whole approach to get these bastards.
7 likesIt is extremely difficult to get away with murder in this day and age!
2 likesGuys this is what a illogical human being looks like. Hey killed her because he was sick of her so-called spreading rumors because he was afraid he lose his job. So instead he kills her as if people weren't immediately going to point him as the suspect considering they just broke up and knowing he would very likely get caught and not only then lose his job at lose his freedom. We had even an ounce of the ability to think logically then this would have crossed his mind and stopped him from doing what he did.
5 likesThe end, lee ONLY having these emotions about his own outcome.. how the hell does this person's mind work? How doesn't he feel guilty... God rest her soul.
7 likesWow. Right off the get go you can tell how guilty and obsessed with her he was. A 5 minute answer what could of been answered in one sentence
3 likesThe female investator is the most emotional one among all the videos
0 likes34:26 life is so much easier if you dont kill people
Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors in February and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.
This is the type of guy who should never be let out regardless of if she hadn't died. He's clearly self aware even saying he can't go in to prison like that, then apologizing to a spirit, then getting angry again. That's fucking frightening I'd rather the dude was just psycho 247 so u know. The fact that he knows what he did is wrong is what makes this even worse.
34 likesHow he says he's so stupid to himself,didn't quite explain how he managed to dispose of the body in such a manner, the murder,yes ,he seemed sorry, or maybe telling himself he was stupid but there was another aspect to his admission I find intriguing.
0 likesJCS: shows a powerpoint presentation of squares
96 likesAlso JCS: “A male figure was seen walking out.”
Wow, one question and he gave a college length dissertation. Good job, buddy!
0 likesCan someone explain why the state attorney wouldn’t want the confession released? Wouldn’t that benefit them?
5 likesAt 6:36 you can see Lee wipe the sweat off of his right hand in anticipation of a handshake with the detective as he entered the room. Chillingly calculated.
2 likesIt’s really sad to watch someone who seems to be pretty happy with their life throw it all away with a gruesome act of violence. Unlike other murders, I think Lee genuinely feels bad for what he’s done. He made a horrible horrible mistake out of emotion of whatever was said or done in that car. To me he clearly is remorseful but that doesn’t erase what he’s done. He’s guilty. And the whole story is incredibly sad. I don’t doubt that he may have killed her by mistake but I don’t buy self defense
9 likesHoly Shit! What looks like a normal interview, questions asked and answered doesn't look at all sus... until... you add what the detectives are looking for and answer timers, the guilt starts pouring out. My god, the more I watch the more guilty he looks. Also, this dude is really dumb, they tell him they know he is lying because of a video from a camera, then, the moment the detectives leave he continues to talk out loud like cameras don't exist. Also, this is not the first time I have seen an interview where they were caught because of a camera, then continue to talk after the police leave the room and that recording is used as evidence.
0 likes"This is the last time you'll get to wear a chef's coat" —yup, from that moment on, orange became the new black for him 😂
40 likesThe guy lied in the first minute… “I haven’t done drugs since… like high school” lmfao adios and your “you were going places” line… chef hahaha the boys at the pen will appreciate your skills. This entire story is just sad though but this guy is the saddest
4 likesIn March 2021 he was found guilty and sentenced to 40 years in prison.
1 likePraying for beautiful Savannah's family and that Lee Rodarte huge change for the better. 🙏
0 likesDetective: "How long have you known Savannah?"
5 likesLee: Puts glasses on, crosses legs, pulls out a book and licks page turning finger "Ah yes, where to begin?"
“mom… im gonna die in jail” oh no. it cant be. time to face the consequences of his actions. 😐
2 likesWhen the police wants to question you about some traffic violation and leaves you alone in the interrogation room for 90 minutes... 🙄😬
0 likesI'm going to go out on a limb here...."Trial delayed due to COVID-19..."
2 likesI just want to point out that a cause of some of his elaborate responses was most likely because he was on Adderall for the first time in years
0 likesLee is probably the weakest 5'11 guy out there, talk about fearing his life after receiving multiple slaps in the face from a 5'0 girl.. what a lame excuse..
3 likesI guess being a criminal doesn’t mean you have to know how to spell in the text messages 😂
1 likeIt is intereseting that he talks to himself in the third person - maybe he psychologically dissociates his evil part from the good one as a form of mental protection or he might be really crazy.
0 likesIf Anyone is wounding he got 40 Years in prison You can find the details on the internet
1 likeEven though some crimes seem like you obviously should be locked up for the rest your life, if not put to death, I wonder if there’s this kind of unintended level of justice that hits when the person is released when they’re like 70 and even though they have a little bit of a life to live freely, maybe it hits them super hard all the things that they didn’t do because they spent their whole life in prison. Like if you never got out you would still die after a sad depressing life but you wouldn’t necessarily know what you’ve been missing and might lose touch with that. Orrrrrrr maybe it’s better that extreme offenders all die in prison….
0 likesI remember when this happened how sad. Im from Jacksonville fl and I think the authorities knew it was her punk bf all along. R.I.P Savanah... btw the food is good at that place.
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I heard the food is to die for
0 likesYou should treat all strangers, including co-workers, with a huge amount of skepticism.
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Really, my takeaway was that you shouldn’t live a life of a drug addict and associate other drug addicts. Bad thing s tend to happen, one way or another.
0 likesWow! Killing over fear of losing a job? Kinda makes you ashamed being human. But good to know there are some good people out there still holding the human race in high regards.
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I think that's what it truly was, but he pled self defense and got a plea deal for 2nd degree murder and 40 years. Most likely why they didn't show the actual confession. It doesn't line up because she was trying to escape, so he was obviously preventing her. Apparently his sister is also in jail for a "self defense" murder. I dunno, seems kinda like a travesty of justice.
0 likesHe could of said they were fooling around in the backseat, then decided to drive off to a motel, and then she left.
0 likesimagine killing somebody to save your job at a "bonefish grill" restaurant.....
1 likeThis is really good detective work.
0 likesThe car in the video looks more like a 2005-6 Malibu.
1 likeLucky for the police that the killer didn't do much to cover his tracks. Ego? Stupidity? Both?
“Probably not the best advertisement that chefs at the Bonefish Grille are picking their scabs.”
14 likes🤣🤣🤣
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rip bonefish grill lol
2 likes"Where was the last place you saw Savannah?"
3 likes"You could start by running to the Room of the Three Gargoyles. Push in the right tongue, and a door might lead you down a staircase into the wall climb--here, you must choose your next path. You could race up to the Observatory, spin the sundial, and pass into the Room of the Golden Idols. Once there, push down on their bases to release the doors, that may take you below, or lead you into the ShRiNe of the SiLvEr MoNkEy. Assemble the statue there and you may be headed for the Torch Room! If the elevator is up, you could jump into the elevator and descend into the mine shaft. You might climb up the ladder, or plow through the stone wall. Find the key, and it may unlock the Tombs of the Ancient Kings, allowing you to climb into the Spider's Lair. If you escape, you may have a chance to sit upon the Throne of the Pretender. If the correct door is unlocked, you'll be able to crawl into the Pit of Despair, and finally make your way through the Cave of Sighs back to the Temple Gate. The choices are yours and yours alone...good luck."
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i admire the creativity of this comment
0 likesVery pleased I've subscribed to this channel
0 likesShould’ve asked for a lawyer
1 likeI watched too many cop shows but the cut of the confess segment makes me think a senator's son actually did it and they paid a guy to take the fall lmao.
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I am curious about your opinion. Here's the uncut version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s
0 likesJcs u made me lol so much when u said its not the best ad for the restaurant if the chefs are picking off their scabs at work🤣🤣🤣
0 likesYou channel is wonderful. My only recommendation is too verify the pronunciation of Spanish-based names 😊.
0 likesI can’t believe someone can do something like this
0 likesDetective: How long have you known Savannah?
1 likeLee Rodarte: Call me Ishmael...
So did this guy kill over “the bonefish grill”? Everyone who has had one of these shitty restaurant gigs knows how easy it is to just get another one.
2 likesI wonder if his responses would've been different had he not been on Adderall. I've known some people who wanna sit there and talk and talk and talk after taking one
0 likesNext time please edit the word "OPTIMISM" being thrown away as the detective close the door smoothly
1 likehe should've called his lawyer wtf
1 likeJCS has quickly risen to become one of my favorite YT channels. The expert way in which he breaks down interrogation videos is addicting and just plain interesting to watch. Love everyone of your vids, Keep up the great work.
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Check out his Patreon, there's TONS of bingeworthy content.
1 likeTaking an adderall and being in this guys position is the worst thing i can think of.
1 likeHe’s serving 40 years.
0 likes14:21 possible motive attained 11 minutes in
0 likesHeroin can make you paranoid if you’re an addict and only doing it to feel normal/not get sick. But even then using would make you way less paranoid typically. What a rookie
0 likes20:51 “probably not the best advertisement for bonefish grill”
11 likesNot defending these monster killers, but why would they talk to detectives so much without a lawyer? Why?
0 likesNote to criminals, or more importantly innocent people. SAY NOTHING TO ANYONE. The texts were idiotic. If he hadn't sent the texts the footage might have been erased before an investigation happened.
1 like"known for his charm and charisma"-- he looks like a complete douchebag. Oh. Jacksonville. Charming and charismatic for there I guess.
"she wasn't the type to get paranoid"-- This is what is known as an incredible leap of logic. (sorry I tried to reference that-- there was a drinking game for STTNG that had incredible leap of logic as one of the rule, but it seems to have disappeared)
Why would someone capable of that crime feel remorse? That's weird. This makes me feel like they talked him into admitting the crime. The emotional distress would be immediate. It would be a murder-suicide, not a tried-to-get-away-with murder. (at least for me). Did they find physical evidence at his house where he supposedly burned her? If not, I don't believe it.
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Dude its pretty obvious if you heard the confession footage
0 likesI feel like the guy was trying to make the detective tired, for some reason :))))))
0 likesRight to remain silent... Have a lawyer present bro.
0 likesDon't do drugs, don't hang around people who do.
1 likeOmg Jacksonville is like one of the most dangerous places outside Chicago for crazy shit and crimes
0 likes@10:38
1 likeMr. Lee R. You mean to tell me, she in YOUR restaurant Severing up Rice 🌾 Krispies?
Yet,
She over there 👉 taking out all the crackle.
The Lies!!!!!
36:12 he has the audacity to blame Savannah?
0 likesYou guys tend to forget one thing yeah he took a 40 year plea deal but my guess is that guy aint never coming home
1 likewhat yall think his bid will be 40 years of smooth sailing yeah right as dumb as he is he will get himself in trouble prolonging his sentence what i think this guy is gone for good
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i hope he gets free one day and start putting his life back together
0 likesNow her Dad is allowed in the room and the cameras are shut off….
0 likesHumm… .those gasses 🤓 are they for cosmetic reasons or function?
0 likes* (If he has low vision)***
If it’s used for function, as soon as that person takes off the glasses 👓.
you’re in world of trouble.
If you have low vision you already know the “why” did he remove his glasses?
Bro luv your,work and watch alot of your police interviews,but it's was Friday the 4th asto your Friday 5 just a red hern,keep rolling them out,and me and my friends luv it
0 likesDon't worry buddy.. depending on which prison you go to you can work in the kitchen and wear chef coat again 🤣
0 likesAnyone else like the fact that there's cuffs hanging on the door?!
2 likes"The Impending Reality"
So, why did he kill her?
0 likesHis text that he tried to fake as coming from her, attempting to keep the heat down were the VERY things that arouse suspicion and turned up the heat on her disappearance lol
1 likewe can take detailed photos of far away galaxies but we still have CCTV cameras that have like 3 pixels????
0 likes36:14 i think he said “Fuckin’ Savannah. Fuckin’ hated her”
1 likeWhat if, she was at work ???
0 likesAnd staff lies
im ngl i woulda started laughing at the female interegator🤣
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@DONUT its jus too forced🤷♂️ like i understand that mans was nervous and all that but like she was obnoxiusly forcing it
0 likesHere is that missing video of his confession: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9904s
0 likeshope he gets free one day and get his life together
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I don't...
0 likesI'm confused..why don't these people get an attorney? Do they think that will make them look guilty?
0 likesCan we make it a law that CCTV cameras have to give crystal clear footage 24/7 ?
1 likeHeroin causes one of the most extreme paranoias on earth. Not intrinsically perhaps but extrinsically. It induces the paranoia of getting arrested while addicted to heroin and being dope sick in jail. An extreme, visceral fear...
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I mean just saying...
0 likesthe narrator is good
1 likeMy favorite part starts at 33:45
0 likesBut she wasn't lying.. I mean they hooked up right 🙄
0 likesLooks like he's gettin' the Bone Fish now for 40 years.
0 likesI'm constantly baffled by why people incriminate themselves willingly.
6 likesI don't believe that I have the capability of being able to couch anything in a vernacular that's going to be understood by the people that you want me to talk to.
1 likeDetective: "So how long have you known Savannah?"
2 likesRodarte: "Okay so it all started with the Big Bang, right?"
Proceeds to make a timeline of the known universe
That woman is a horrible actor.
0 likesI don’t know if it’s different if she’s talking towards you or something but from a bird’s eye, this is just horrible.
The constant girly voice asking where the girl is, “Im beghing you “. How’d he fall for this?
nah but her using her femininity to secure a confession >
0 likesGuy cracked like an egg and sang like a canary.
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no fowl play here
0 likesmama life had just begun but now I gone and thrown it all away
0 likesI read the title: Just Incase Lee Rodarte
1 likeWonder how intense the urge to run was @ 7:16
1 likeSavannah Gold, sounds like an adult movie actress name
0 likesThat quick "What happened to your neck" confrontation made MY heart skip a beat while making a face. Definitely wouldn't last in an interrogation like this 😄
119 likesYou know, parents will talk to their kids about drugs, or teen pregnancy, but they never explain that letting you anger get out of control will REALLY ruin their lives. I know most parents assume their kid isn't capable. Murder is one of the only mistakes that can't be fixed or undone. It's never worth it.
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You're so right. Especially with men, who are raised to believe that anger is a much more masculine and acceptable response than a litany of other emotions... especially sadness. We need to teach our boys how to process their emotions. Crying isn't just for girls.
31 likesThat is a very important point. When you get out of Control with Anger it can cost you your freedom and or life.
6 likesSomething got “missed” in his upbringing....his sister shot and killed a woman in December 2016, and it was caught on video!
5 likesDon't stick yr kids in stranger daycare
0 likesIt ramped up in the 70s big time
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@Kevin Cook Oh Lordt!!!!!!
1 likeFrom a neuroscience perspective, it’s not necessarily about talking or not talking to your kids about anger. When people murder others in fits of rage, it’s a prefrontal cortex thing - sadly, no amount of logical explanation in childhood could have prevented it. Usually complex childhood trauma/abuse results in the underdevelopment of the prefrontal cortex, which is responsible for logical decision making. Unfortunately, if someone doesn’t have that brain buffer/censorship area developed and they’re faced with a in a highly charged, threatening situation there is no built in system to stop their rage.
6 likesWe have zero education about how to manage emotions and finances: 2 things that run our daily lives.... yet we teach geometry and wood working. It wouldn’t solve everything but could save someone undoubtedly.
3 likesin 2020 even being a honest husband can bring to the same conclusion :D or almost the same.. or even worse lol
0 likes*Almost never. I'm not answering any questions
1 likeThe female detective strategy didn’t click with me
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I was just thinking how she isn't very good at questioning.
1 like“a truthful person would give a short, concise answer”
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what if you're afraid if you don't give info that means you hiding something that means you go to jail bro
13 likes@Oran Gutan no
3 likes@Oran Gutan Surprisingly, the people who talk less are suspected less. Even if they did suspect someone of hiding evidence, they couldn't send them to jail without some form of confession or overwhelming evidence.
6 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likeHe did say he took an adderall
3 likesit was short imo @|@
0 likesYeah he started saying stuff they never even asked him about. Smh 🤦🏽♀️
1 likeSeems like longer
0 likesIt is mad annoying how she keeps saying were just fact finders
0 likesOne topic not addressed in the video: the extreme psychological advantage gained by a detective wearing a bow tie
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Bow ties are cool.
27 likes@Eirika sacredstones No, they're intimidating.
7 likes@MK Agreed. If I see just a random guy with a bowtie walking down the street, for some reason it feels out of place even though it isn't. It's just not very common to see people wearing bowties.
14 likesI work with a doctor that exclusively wears bowties and the aura of authority he exudes cannot be overstated.
28 likes@Tony Luebke a bow tie is most sanitary for a doctor because typical ties are long & swing, picking up bodily fluids, etc,
8 likesWhen I went to court the judge had a spotted bow tie, super impressed
3 likesIt’s a power move for sure
1 like@Eirika sacredstones is that a Dr.Who reference?
1 like@McKinley Mickelson ......possibly. d;
1 likeHonestly, men who wear bowties do in fact spark a sudden interest in me. I see a man with a bowtie and ask myself, "what the fuck is this dud doing wearing a bowtie? Where is he going that requires a bowtie? Who the hell is this man?" but I have to pause and reel in my curiosity, because even for a woman, stopping some random guy and asking him a billion questions over one aspect of his wardrobe is extremely frowned upon.
3 likesDefinitely adds some intrigue, though.
my dad is a math/engineering professor and wears bow ties to class. he is loved and his rate my professor reviews are great. but they also fear him and im sure much of it has to do with his choice of neckwear
0 likesTimmy Quinn - Was he?! Dang! Now I’m going to have to watch the footage again!
0 likes😅🤪
ASX - maybe not in YOUR century…….
0 likes😉🧐
Octopodes - oh dear……..😂
0 likesEvery time I watch these I think . Dammmmm what if he would’ve had a lawyer present....
0 likesI just never understand stuff like this. Worst case scenario he loses his job and gets one somewhere else yet he decides to kill her and burn her body? Just makes no sense to me.
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It’s the result of poor foresight and and judgment mixed with impatience and impulsivity.
54 likespeople do some messed up shit over love.
1 likeThey're unintelligent and impulsive. That's the gist of it.
27 likesYeah, the motive is unclear....only thing I can think of is if she was pregnant or told him she was....thats a reason to kill, but nothing else other than accidental, or maybe the instant fear of an assault charge
7 likesyep derp
0 likesWow bro its like youve never seen a good prank before.
@Scorch428 imagine thinking a woman being pregnant is a reason to murder her. get help.
14 likesIt doesn't look like it was planned.
1 like@techno cloud no shit. i'm saying "imagine having that mindset". it's fucked up.
3 likesI know.... I mean, he is in prison, right now.... What a nightmare !!! But imagine Savannah's nightmare when he started attacking her... Ugh !!!!
1 like@Misery the person you replied to wasnt saying it's a valid reason to murder her, just that it's a believable motive that some messed up people have...
1 likeExactly! And as someone who has worked in kitchens for years now, it's no secret that coworkers constantly are hooking up behind the scenes. I've seen this at every restaurant I've ever worked at. Yeah it might be "against company policy" to do it, but people are people and they're gonna do what they wanna do regardless.
1 likePlus if he's a head chef at a restaurant and if he's good at what he did, worst case is they fire him and he can go be a head chef somewhere else! Restaurants hire people like crazy. So this I truly don't understand what the FUCK he was thinking. It's a tragic situation all around. What he did was monstrous but the reasoning for it was more so. It made no fucking sense.
@MB I'm well aware.
0 likesMisery my thoughts exactly! Insanity!
0 likes@5000Seabass 😎👍🏼
0 likesMisery apparently you weren’t
1 like@Scorch428 You're Entitled to Your Opinion
0 likes@Truth Seeker Always There's no such thing :)
0 likes@5000Seabass 😂
0 likesBone fish sounds fucking unappetizing
1 likeI grew up hearing the southern phrase "Never trust a skinny chef." I didn't know it was so deep.
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That phrase is worldwide.
15 likesIt’s not so deep
4 likesDeep fried
1 likeUnless the chef is on Adderall
14 likesomg this comment is underrated XD
4 likes"i thought they just meant don't trust their food, not nothing about kidnapping and murder!"
@I. Wynn Wynn... I didn't think he was ugly
3 likesMakes perfect sense.🤔😬
0 likesStar _gazer The things he’s done, alone, makes him pretty hideous to me. I didn’t think he was “ugly” or “good-looking”, though, aesthetically speaking? He looks kinda boring. Most murderers look boring. I never understand what women—men, as well, I suppose—see in them.
0 likes@I. Wynn Wynn you watch too much Gordon Ramsay.
0 likes@Presto Hobo It's more just a folksy saying than some kind of superstition, and I doubt anybody actually believes that. I think the main difference is the fat cooks are sneaking more food during work lol.
0 likesif the chef is fat then they just eat/make mostly unhealthy food
0 likes@your dad unhealthy food tastes good. I'd be looking for a good meal not a life-partner.
0 likesGordan ramsey
0 likes@FlamingSword92 well, he's fit, a bit buff, not scrawny...which is different.
0 likesImagine killing someone and being mad at THEM because you killed them. He was more upset about ruining his life. The audacity.
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You only see what you want to see, man.
6 likes@Anonymous Anonymous 😂😂 how am I a fool?
0 likes@jenjayawearssocks I didn't say it does, but it makes it more understandable at least.
0 likes@Serjo777 to each his own I suppose lol
5 likesBut enough about George Zimmerman
1 like@AnnaKev In an insignificantly small amount of cases maybe.
0 likesSerjo777 maybe so but is that enough reason to kill a girl? Also did u watch the end he was literally saying to himself she’s so nice to me
4 likes@Serjo777 this could potentially be one of those cases.
0 likes@Serjo777 Even one is not an insignificantly small amount.
0 likes@Negasuki It very much is.
0 likesRemind me: NO BONEFISH GRILL!
0 likesHe might wear one in jail
0 likesWhen he was left alone with the female detective and she remained on her phone, silently ignoring him...that was so awkward.
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Wasn't she on tinder or bumble? I can understand... That shit is addicting.
15 likes@AlchimisteVerbal no he was a coworker
0 likes@AlchimisteVerbal It was probably a calculated move for her to be on her phone ignoring him. I don't know though, I don't know anything about interrogation tactics besides what I've seen on this channel lol
73 likesHe has a big ego and success being a womanizer which most likely put the idea in his head that he has control over women and they need to pay attention to him. Notice he was looking in that female detective's direction the whole time and she didn't give him the time of day. It subconsciously breaks him down and puts him in his real place, which is one where he has no power at all.
108 likesThat was the goal, make him feel inferior
26 likesRyan Duffy : Lol me either!! Love this channel
0 likes@Alex Galate Honestly he might have just been looking at her because he had been sitting there for 90 minutes and had nowhere else to direct his attention.
3 likesI think I know what was going on in Rodarte's head. As a certified "Playa", he was working on an effective pickup line for the detective: What's a sweet thing like you doing in 25-35 years? Wanna hookup?
6 likesshe was very rude - it seems to be typical human behaviour these days though
6 likesLooked like she was on his social medias
0 likes@Dante Good wow you sure extrapolated A LOT away from what that guy originally said lol, he's hardly wrong
5 likesASMR Pillow you must have some kind of psychological disorder. This is a homicide interrogation. Not a daycare center. Rudeness has no relevance with anything going on here. The mere fact you would suggest the murderer is being treated rudely is craziness beyond all that’s imaginable
12 likes@MostlyLoveOfMusic yeah she was very rude. she should treat this brutal murderer with care and love. hell maybe a flirtatious smile would help. maybe a friendly selfie too!
8 likesGenius interrogation move. Make him feel completely awkward and do anything to get away from the emotional guilt-tripping mom cop that ignores him like his real mommy did.
7 likes@Alex Galate You are overthinking it.
0 likes@Humanoid No I'm not
2 likesDetective: how long have you known Savannah?
526 likesLee: Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.
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@A Ultra Mega Maga alpha and omega , seriously? You took the fable of a sith lord and wanted to turn it into Bible study? What a pitiful demonstration, while taking the cringe factor to 11. Please, go save those who need saving,... like David "The Apostle" Taylor. He needs your help, go,... seek and save! Leave Star Wars alone,... they have enough problems now that it's owned by Disney. Oh, and lay off the Caps-Lock, for the love of Christ. You're either yelling or you're a sovereign citizen in court,... pick one!
10 likes@A Ultra Mega Maga alpha and omega cringe
7 likes@Just Soap HEH HEH , SORRY , I AM NOT GOOD AT STORY TELLING , BUT THAT IS A HISTORICAL FACTUAL STORY IN THE BIBLE
1 like@A Ultra Mega Maga alpha and omega why are u yelling
7 likes@gloomy yoonbum HI,
5 likesSORRY, NOT YELLING, IT IS EASIER FOR ME TO SEE AND READ IN CAPITAL LETTERS = BAD EYES
Read the first line and scrolled to the bottom…
0 likesthis comment took me out
0 likesIf you’re not going to invoke your 5th amendment rights, this is probably the way to go. Followed closely with “I AM THE SENATE” and pulling out a lightsaber.
1 like@HereIsWisdom 1318 , I know George Lucas is old, but not that old. The idea may have some roots in the bible, but its not Theology. A more appropriate template to use would be reminiscent of a Greek tragedy. Yet there are hundreds of cultures and religions that have "The Heroes Journey" genre embedded in their fables, including the bible. Yes, Jar Jar Binks was the 13th apostle.
0 likesyessssssssss that nigga could b a st8 murderer hes got evrything down pat love these videos
0 likesAny updates on this 👀
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guilty plea and 40 years in prison.
0 likes“How long did you know her?”
2362 likesHim: “The FitnessGram Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. [beep] A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound. [ding] Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark, get ready, start.”
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The fitness gram pacer test?? Jesus. We just call it the beep test. Far less of a mouthful.
42 likesM0 0
0 likes@No one Pacer test for short....your school sounds weird dawg 😂
9 likesthanks to you i finally found this meme
2 likes☠☠☠☠☠
1 like@Bigdoinks it sounds frendlier i guess. "beep" sounds funnier than "pacer"
6 likesI remember elementary school haha
2 likes@Bigdoinks 😆
1 like@Bigdoinks my school called it beep test too, I never knew it's called the fitness gram pacer test 😂
6 likes@haduki w Thats so crazy to me 😂 I've never heard anyone call it anything other then the pacer test 😳 gotta be a regional thing lol im in wisconsin
3 likes@Bigdoinks yeah, I think it’s a regional thing, I’m in Canada and most schools in my province call it the beep test. Pacer test sounds better to me tho
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0 likes@Bigdoinks I'm a Beeper too. But here's the twist - Beep crosses the fkn ocean to my Dutch middle school. "Piepjestest" (we don't put spaces between words that form their own term) to give you the literal version. Pronounced similarly though to relate; Peep(-'jes' pronounced 'yus' is a plural diminutive addition which basically turns the word Beep into 'Little beeps') test which is the same as in English. Piep (peep) doesn't have the synonymous definition in Dutch that it would have in English, where it would've been easily conflated with the act of observing (and usually implying voyeurism of some sort). At the same time in Dutch wouldn't want to use the B; the word Bieb (pronounced like beep) is commonly already used to refer to a library. (bibliotheek from the French bibliothèque and I'm sure you're familiar with the word bibliography- but just taking the first part of the word (which is pronounced with the EE sound, not like 'bib' in English) for colloquial speech). Anyway the point is that even in The Netherlands it's referred to as the "lil'-beep test".
1 like@Bigdoinks nah you already know fam either goes to a school in the streets or goes to a school located in the city 🗿
0 likesReading that gave me anxiety flashbacks to high school
1 like@No one at my school we call it the pacer
0 likesi know better buts its still so sad :(
0 likesDid he seriously murder her out of fear of losing his job as a chef... At a seafood place....
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Being a chef is an actual job. Not a reason to commit murder, but its not a job to downplay. And some people like stability in their life and become anxious about sudden changes. But I dont think his job was the real motive anyway
80 likesthey where also a couple of junkies in an on again off again relationship at each others throats.
16 likeshe seemed like a troubled guy who expected a lot from himself, for some people (actually many people) being a chef at an ok place means a lot. They probably had drug problems too, and were a toxic relationship... for someone who has trouble keeping a normal life, the fear of losing a job you like means a lot. It doesnt justify what he did tho I hope he gets life.
24 likes@Thesos320 like I said, its not a reason to commit murder but downplaying any kind of job is what moochers do
16 likes@Mer Ber I think the op was just saying that he probably could've just gotten another job as a chef elsewhere. That is if he didn't y'know, murder his girlfriend.
10 likesMer Ber you know it’s not the murder that bothers me about this guy. It’s the hypocrisy!
3 likes@Justin Green thats what Im saying too. But some people are not rational and do stupid things out of fear of losing their stability and status
1 like@Thesos320 Unfunny, intentionally offensive name that we have all see more times than we care to remember -- check
9 likesAggressive, snarky answer that adds nothing to the conversation -- check
Reference to "cool" TV show fantasy world rather than reality -- check
Presence of try-hard tweenie confirmed.
@Cutland Springs lol yeah. He probably is one of those moochers that live in their parents basement, playing video games and watching cartoons all day
2 likesYes.. it's insane
0 likesNuclearBunny970: No drugs were found in her body at autopsy despite Mr Rodarte’s claim that she was high when he killed her.
5 likes@Downstream01 you got me there, I guess I'm filling in the blanks of the guy's admitted drug use and third parry statements of them dating again.
1 likeDownstream01 In Jacksonville. Let that sink in.
0 likes@Mer Ber DOH!
0 likesI think he was a psychopathic narcissist and addiction drove him to places of anger that caused violence.
1 likeTheres a shortage of chefs because its a tough job with alot of hard work therefore you can get a new job the same day really easy
2 likesHe was "going places man.."
0 likesLol prestigous right?
1 likeLmao what did he expect to happen
0 likeswhy do women go for the bad boys?
0 likes@Mer Ber He has to be a person like myself who don't give a shit. Another reason people commit murder is REPUTATION. They keep a lot of secrets and they are quiet but dangerous.
0 likesAlthough superficial, I hated this guy the moment I saw his social photos at the beginning of the video.
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dont let hate take over you ! he has a family just like you
0 likes"my mom was addicted to methamphetamines when I was younger. So I try to stay away from that hard stuff"
278 likesMeanwhile, less than 10 minutes ago, he said he took an adderall. What do you think adderall is, Lee?
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Narcissists and psychopaths always contradict themselves every other sentence.
32 likesCrypticRaps I didn’t know that. I’m a bit ignorant about that sort of thing. Learn something new everyday. 👍🏽
8 likes@Pommie 🐻 Bears yeah, some pharmaceutical stimulants are in the amphetamine family. I only know this because I have a sleep disorder, so I've been on some of them. Tbh they worked pretty good for me but my parents didn't like them so much so we switched to something else. Whenever I signed a drug test consent form when on them, I got to leave a fun little note on the bottom, like, "feel free to test me but I'm definitely positive. Pinky promise I'm not on actual meth though!"
10 likesMadeline R lol...that’s awesome. I like people with a bit of sass. 👍🏽🌸
6 likes@Pommie 🐻 Bears thanks. I worded it slightly more formally, but that's essentially what it said
3 likesI've always known Adderall was close to meth, but never knew how. Having recently started taking it and really benefitting from it I'm curious now. Is it just cleaner, smaller doses that makes it different?
4 likes@FelonWind Adderall is based on amphetamine, not methamphetamine.
8 likesDifferent drug. Different side ffects. Different effects.
But yes, they are close and both are stimulants.
CrypticRaps comparing adderall to meth is like comparing Vicodin to heroin.
12 likesEthan B which is literally the same thing. Vicodin and heroin are opioids. Adderall and meth are both amphetamines. The Rx’s are just legal.
4 likesIf they show up as the same on drug tests maybe he hadn't taken adderall that day but meth but lied to cover it up because he knew exactly that they are similar?
2 likes@Corinne It's not, though. That extra methyl group meth has matters, and two drugs with similar chemical structure can have different effects. Adderall taken at very high doses may be somewhat similar to meth, but they're still different drugs. Meth is more potent, more addictive, and more euphoric. Plus, I don't know how many meth users weigh out their meth before using, where as Adderall is already dosed. It's more dangerous and worse for you.
3 likes@Corinne yes and no. They are very similar, but not exactly the same. They show up on the same test because the test looks for a reaction to amphetamines, not just to meth specifically. Also, when you get meds from a pharmacy, you know what you're getting and what you're getting is more optimized to be only what you need, as opposed to what is probably contaminated or otherwise unnecessarily harmful drugs from a dealer.
3 likesEthan B
2 likesNot at all. Vicodin is weak compared to heroin. Vicodin is Hydrocodone. A heroin addict wouldn't even feel vicodin.
But you can achieve the same peak abusing meth or adderall. It's not night and day. Same peak, same risk and reward for addiction, same come down. The only difference is you can't really bang or smoke adderall, so it seems cleaner. It's just legal, that's why it gets a pass.
Sarah L
0 likesI don't think he took it that day. He's not really tweaking in this interrogation. Maybe he is and he's good at hiding it. But I've never met somebody who can hide being twacked out.
Fenner
1 likeThe peak of abusing large amounts of adderall is no different than peaking on methamphetamines. It might be molecularly, but it's not a distinguishable high.
Nobody that abuses drugs cares about the scientific differences between two drugs. If it gets them to the same peak, what does it matter? The risk for abuse is the same.
@Cryptic Raps Yeah, but most people who take Adderall aren't taking it by the handfuls. It's incredibly expensive. Any Adderall addicts I've met have switched to either amphetamine paste or meth. I doubt this guy was taking 200 mg before a shift at work. I also wouldn't say the high isn't indistinguishable. I rarely have heard Adderall described as intensely euphoric and it doesn't last as long.
1 likeNot defending him but despite the pharmacological similarities there is a massive difference in many different ways between adderall and street bought methamphetamine. I sadly know this from first hand experience
2 likesI noticed that, too. I guess as long as it was stolen from a doctor it's fine.
0 likesMeth=/= adderall
2 likesCrypticRaps if you add like one neutron to water you can’t drink it, if you add one oxygen to water... you can’t drink it. Adderal is like 7 whole carbon chains off from meth, just because it sounds the same doesn’t mean it’s the same... everyone thinks they’re on to something with that lmao
5 likes@Cryptic Raps I don't mean to sound overly mean or offensive, but it sounds like you know very, very little about Adderall. It's not even close to as addictive as meth, and as a matter of fact, most studies find that children who take it are less likely to become addicted to drugs in general as adults. That's not to say that it doesn't have the potential for abuse. But taking a dose of Adderall from a friend because you want to be more focused during the day is immensely different from using meth to get high.
4 likes@Arbitrary Renaissance How would children Adderal users be less likely to get an addiction to drugs as they grow older? Where are these studies you're mentioning? It makes no logical sense that a child who uses an addictive prescription growing up would have a less addictive brain than a child who has never ingested addictive drugs. Credible sources please.
0 likesThe difference in my experience is route of administration, smoking meth makes it much easier to redose compulsively.
0 likesThe other difference is the price tag, you can get a gram of quality meth for 80£ while a gram of adderall would be closer to 150-200.
On top of that no one wants to take 20 pills.
@Anastasia Fuller The commonsense intuition is that Adderall is used to treat ADHD. If the ADHD is being successfully treated by the drug, then the likelihood of a child to get addicted to other substances is lowered, as kids with ADHD are more likely to develop substance use disorders growing up. Furthermore, I haven't found any good data indicating that Adderall is particularly addictive. Which is partly due to the fact that addiction is hard to define and diagnose in the first place, but my personal experience with ADHD stimulants leads me to believe that it's also because it really isn't addictive in the same way that tobacco is.
0 likesAnyway, I do have a source for my claim that children put on stimulants for ADHD are less likely to develop drug problems growing up. It comes from a clinical report by the American Academy of Pediatrics, which compiles and analyzes more than 80 different studies on the subject of substance abuse and ADHD. One of its conclusions is that pharmacotherapy for ADHD (i.e. prescribing medication) is associated with a reduced risk of SUDs. See the section titled "Treating ADHD and Co-occurring Mental Health Disorders to Reduce the Risk of SUDs " in the report: https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/1/e293#sec-4
Arbitrary Renaissance
0 likesYes, and using meth once is a immensely different that taking 400 adderall pills a day. That's just anecdotal. I never said anything about anyone taking adderall one time to stay focused during the day. Everything is fine in moderation. I don't know what studies would even monitor that, but of course a majority of addicts don't become addicts as a child. And adderall is overprescribed. So of course the stats would show that. But it doesn't correlate to what I'm saying at all. An addict doesn't just wake up one day saying they want to be an addict. I feel like it goes without saying that they're usually troubled kids. It must mean the parents somewhat care about the child if they're trying to get them on adderall, thinking it might help. What about the kid that just had to deal with ADHD and never got on adderall? I don't take what you said as mean or offensive, because I think you're wrong.
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0 likesThat is true. Meth is much cheaper. And there are many different ways of administering. Especially IV, where you can peak immediately. I'm just saying if the dosage is right, it'd be very hard to distinguish between the two drugs. And you can most definitely become addicted to adderall, then switch to meth because it's cheaper and you get the same effect to quell the itch for wanting to tweak.
I'll take my turn. I'm the expert!
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0 likesYou have the floor! So many scientists, so little time.
@Cryptic Raps perhaps indeed the interglobual fermistoods are vintrilically the dormate fistatude but the geneplasits don't fit the sortimolicle forensics
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1 likeMmmmyes good sir! Very astute point! The intricacy of your mind compels me. Please give me a statistic so I can log it into my microsoft excel spreadsheet
@Cryptic Rapsfromunda isn't cheese
0 likes@Arbitrary Renaissance I'll need to review those studies. Longer use equals more tolerance which increases the correlation to abuse. Not a single causation but increased correlation. Partically, due to D2 receptor sensitivity. This is addiction Physiology. If you are in the field of pharmaceutical science. This is psychopharmacology 101. Methamphetamine and amphetamine are not the same per say. They stem from the same family tree. Example, Just like lisdeteroampthetamine (which is less addictive because of slower absorbency) is a conversation step to amphetamine. Same family tree different drug. If you do the chemistry correctly you can convert it back to methamphetamine. I am a med student and I am in pharmaceuticals. Particularly, pharmacotherapy.
1 like@Cryptic Raps You kind of did say something about taking Adderall one time to stay focused during the day, because that's what you started this discussion with. You implied that the guy being interrogated here was a hypocrite because he wanted to stay away from "hard stuff" like meth, but took an Adderall to stay focused. If my dad decides to give my grandma a dose of his Adderall, because she wants to pay more attention to the road while she's driving home, does that mean she'd be a hypocrite for wanting to avoid meth?
1 likeI'm not entirely sure if you understand what the statistic I reference was saying. Take the kid who just had to deal with ADHD and never got on Adderall (or other stimulants like ritalin). Compared to the kid who was prescribed stimulants to treat their ADHD (who usually ends up going off of the prescription upon entering adulthood), this child is much more likely to develop a substance use disorder. It wasn't saying that those who are addicted to substances are more likely to develop that addiction as a child.
@Andrew Zambrana Well, developing a tolerance doesn't always mean developing an addiction. If I regularly take ritalin, I may develop a tolerance for it without ever noticing, then get off of the drug without any trouble because its effects were so marginal once I'd gained a tolerance. With regards to ADHD stimulants specifically, the studies seem to show that over the course of several years, the drug does begin to lose its effect. The good news is that it doesn't make people worse than normal, even on people who stopped the medications later. The MTA study has the details: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063150/
1 like@Marek Dycjan Have you done both?
0 likes@Cryptic Raps If you need Adderall (for ADD or ASD) it doesn't whack you out. It actually calms you down.
0 likes@Arbitrary Renaissance Probably because Adderall actually helps people with ADD and ASD to function normally and not face the bullying issues that lead to adult substance abuse.
0 likes@Anastasia Fuller Probably because Adderall actually helps people with ADD and ASD to function more normally and not face the bullying issues that lead to adult substance abuse.
0 likesAlso Adderall isn't actually addictive. The ability to focus might be "addictive" in the sense that it helps you function but Adderall doesn't get you high.
@Arbitrary Renaissance I just said this too but you said it better. Thank you. :)
0 likes@Cryptic Raps What do you mean "What about the kid that just had to deal with ADHD and never got on adderall?" Sorry I know you're replying to someone else but I used to take Adderall so I have an interest in this conversation. Also I don't know that you could take a lot of it. A few times I accidentally doubled my dose and I thought my heart might beat its way out of my chest. Felt sick and shaky too. Like I had waaay too much coffee.
0 likes@Andrew Zambrana I'm not sure it's abuse if you just need more of it to be effective because you have developed a tolerance. I think abuse is when you take more to get a stronger effect. Perhaps they are technically the same but I don't think that reflects what people think when they think drug abuse.
0 likes@Arbitrary Renaissance I think it's because they don't experience the same amount of bullying. Bullying leads to addiction and other forms of self-harm, including suicide. I can't stand people who say children should never be medicated. If you or your child hasn't got a condition that can be helped by these meds you have no idea what you're talking about so stay out of it.
0 likesThis makes us understand that people don’t think about their decisions they make until they have met the consequences
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He was thinking, he just didn’t care until he got caught.
16 likesSome people don't think.
2 likesI'm sure you are the very same way
0 likesNot everybody
1 likeAnd 98% of the population are not going to choke their ex girlfriends.
1 likeBecause they were raised without consequences, discipline and god have been erased from everything and it has fucked our society
0 likesJustin Thompson unfortunately god hasn‘t been erased from our society yet but we‘ll get there eventually
4 likes@Mercedes Adler lots of people have learned to be better than that
0 likesIQ nationalism
0 likesSome people.
0 likes"Some people", not "all people"
0 likesOn the contrary,most people do think before they act. In addition, we all know the consequences of murdering someone but many think that they'll be the one who gets away with it etc
0 likesnot gonna lie when he asked him about the scratch on his neck i thought he was gonna fumble but lowkey i was kinda impressed how quickly he came up with an actual believable lie
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Yeah, I would of started stuttering like crazy
6 likesIf that's believable to you, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you.
16 likes@Trevor PB Tell me more about this bridge
32 likes@Huh:/// Well uh, geez, I think it's a bridge. I've been on lots of bridges before, i think, golly jee.
14 likes@Trevor PB Sounds promising, how much is it going for? Send me the sort code and account number while you’re at it.
10 likespreplanned it
0 likesTimestamp?
0 likes@Trevor PB I get it - it was like a million years ago. I mean, c'mon, jeez, nobody would be able to remember such details!
1 like@OPness III 19:25
0 likesOmg that female detective please please please I’m begging you please please tell me please. Please just tell me , just tell me lee. Please learn proper technique because this ain’t it.
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It worked, didn't it?
1 likeit's a tactic. Tying in with Lee's emotional wreckage. She drops the act as soon as he starts confessing, see the uncut version at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s
0 likesLong story short: don't date a coworker, he might kill you to keep cooking fish
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seems kinda fishy to me •~•
76 likesI don't want to see your Do not do list. :)
4 likes@Kerri come on dude
4 likes@Kerri 😂
1 likeI can’t wait to try the food at the Bonefish Grill, oh my God, what committed workers!!! They would do anything to keep from losing their job, literally anything.
22 likesWhat a crazy motive... I’m actually leaning toward believing him on why and what they were talking about before he drove off.
3 likes@DJ_Cub Who knows? Neither of them was very smart. Poor girl, how did she get into this mess? Sometimes you think you know someone and don’t realize the mistake until it’s too late. We do not realize how sick that person is. I do not know what happened, I only know that she tried to escape and he, for some incomprehensible reason, did not allow it. So sad.
6 likesLOL!
0 likesDamn what a sad ending. After reading this I'm never gone date again!
1 likeDont meetoo a person u work with
1 like@P C well, it happens very often. I suppose sometimes it works.
0 likesLmao don't date anyone because they could be a potential serial killer.
0 likesI didn’t see the whole thing what was his motive?
0 likes@Daniellehndz099 It seems that she threatened to tell people something and thus make him lose his job at the Bonefish Grill. Well, it’s what he says. Crazy, right? Many years ago something similar happened to me with a girl, but my problem was very different, it was she who did not want to get out of the car. She came to my work shortly before closing, 1:00 am, more or less, she told me she had drunk and that she was tired, she asked me to take her home. She was my ex. It didn’t make me funny that she went out there alone so late, besides at that time there was a crazy guy around the neighborhood who attacked girls at night, I think he used to wait for them in the doorway of their houses. The police had not yet caught him. On the other hand, I had left her, and she was very sad, so I was eager to make her see that we could still be friends. And, ultimately, I would have brought any other girl to her house who had asked me to. We got to her house and we talked for a long time in the car, it got very late and I was sleepy, I wanted to go home to sleep, in the end I asked her to get out of the car, we could continue talking the next day, but she refused. At first I did not understand if the thing was serious or joking, I just repeated to her to get out the car, tomorrow would be another day, but she refused again. I began to understand that this was serious. I begged her to get out of the car and let me go home, but she didn’t flinch. I should have gone to the police, but I was too tired and confused to think rationally, I started yelling at her to get off the car and leave me alone, but it didn’t help. Then I began hitting her while yelling at her to get the fuck down, hit her on the shoulder because I didn’t want to hurt her, and I prayed that every hit was the last. Trust me it’s no fun hitting someone you love. Thank God at one point she changed her mind and left, that night for the first time, I dreamed of Jesus.
3 likes@Man Among Heathen 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes😂😂
0 likesor because you didn't want to switch shifts
0 likesSergio Moliné Sáez thank u
0 likesall my co-workers are fellow dudes
0 likesTrue story ..
0 likesAnd picking scabs
0 likesAnd pick his scabs while cooking
0 likesDon't bone the waitress at the bonefish grill.
0 likesWell cooking fish is important, so...
0 likesThe power of fish 🐠
0 likes"Lee has been alone with his thoughts for 90 minutes now"
2304 likesLee's thoughts: "I really need to pee"
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"Lee has been alone with his thoughts for 90 minutes now"
56 likesLee's 2nd thought: "I sure hope this Adderall doesn't make me ramble. and I still gotta pee"
It sure would have helped Lee if one of those thoughts was "get a lawyer"
26 likesAre u italian Silvano?
4 likesI can relate!
2 likes“ppl with nothing to hide are likely to give a short and concise response” GOD HE JUST KEPT TALKING LMAOOO
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😂😂 Ikr
9 likeshonestly it was probably the adderall
115 likesThe best answer is three words, "lawyer, lawyer, lawyer".
63 likesFacing a guilty plea on General assumptions always leaves room he falsely stereotyping innocent man and I see that you are a minority at least if you were in the United States say would you like somebody to base their level of mint on your guilt or innocence based on what they've seen from behaviors of other people may be of your race to.... probably not
1 likeHe murdered a young woman and you think that's funny...
5 likesIf I had nothing to hide I would be belligerent lol
1 like@Nick H they aint laughing about murder bruh, they're laughing about the murderer keep on talking and therefore revealing critical information through holes in his story. it's about how stupid he is, not how funny his murdering act is.
39 likes@ethwefdsjk that’s exactly what I was going to say.
1 likeOkay, but I'm going to be nervous af and babbling. So, take me to jail, I guess? 😂🤷🏼♀️
1 likeThe detective asked how long have u known her and he went into she takes hard drugs. I was like what... lmao. He did not stop talking omg smh
6 likesIKRR 💀
0 likeshe told his whole life story
0 likesYeah clearly he is a social butterfly, buuuuut damn! Yeah the man turned into the energizer bunny.
1 likeMe, who is highly anxious, and knows myself to over give details even when doing something simple: 👁️👄👁️
2 likeshis voice was irritating because he kept going about the patriarchy or something
0 likesplus he kept making hand gestures over and over
He just went on and on and on and on. For 5 fucking minutes.
1 likeNot gonna lie, that's totally me when lying about the pettiest shit
1 like5. MINUTES. LMAOOO
0 likesCriminals watching this will talk concisely in future. Or maybe will not talk at all without a lawyer.
0 likes@henry james yes always pay a professional liar
0 likes@gdbiw86 um. its basically the same as cocaine. same class of drugs.
0 likesPlease say God with reverence
0 likes@DeuceGenius When the Police and the District Attorney's office are given free reign to lie to suspects, when do they stop? Since we can't answer this question, it would be safe to assume all law enforcement, and all prosecutors lie at all times and under all circumstances. As such, there is no reason to answer a single question.
0 likesIt's interesting, against the context of Lee's fabricated emotional presentation, to notice that the emotional presentation of the detectives is equally fabricated. Basically, we're watching two parties lie to each other and hope it goes their way. That seems interesting and novel until you remember that this is just how social interaction among humans works.
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Why are you talking like the narrator lol
8 likesNot deliberately, nor for a particular reason. :-)
3 likes@aspidoscelistigris why are so many videos like this recommended to me...
0 likesAmungus
0 likesHow bleak
0 likesCompassionate cop-emotionally unstable cop
0 likesI hope they exaggerated his luck with the ladies
0 likes"So how long have you known her?" "Well, I would say it started about 8 months ago and lasted all the way up until I murdered her. Oh wait, whoops."
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Umm... jk guys jk
17 likesLmao this shit is crazy
0 likesAhh... It's too hot today
1 likeThe immense pressure of a "Weeping soul" the female detective is playing is so good..Omg..
342 likesAnd the male detective is literally just juicing that guy out, what a great Duo, damn.
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I'd definitely watch a TV show about them teaming up.
14 likesidk from my perspective her acting was pretty mediocre
43 likes@Al is here im sure it would be from the perspective of someone not already under the pressure of being in a murder investigation
36 likes@Soba That's a fair point, I agree.
12 likesThe female detective was cringe. She was such a bad actor.
8 likesThe female detective was garbage and it's clear she's only there for affirmative action. She almost completely ruined everything (the part where she was begging him to confess was cringe af) but the male colleague clutched it out. I hope she got demoted after this, almost denied the victim her justice.
8 likes@Sleepy Joe Didn't realise a lifelong legendary interrogator tactician was in the comments. How the fuck could you possibly know if she 'ruined everything' if footage of the confession wasn't even shown?
22 likesSleepy Joe definitely affirmative action hire.
2 likesDaleDenton1132. Yup. It’s sad, but some people would rather virtue signal and play jewish games than ensure justice is delivered. It’s a big part of the reason our society seems so corrupt today, and I hope these cultists realize their folly (although hopefully through not losing their daughter).
3 likes@Sleepy Joe yall people are so weird lmfao
1 likeIf I was arrested for a traffic violation and then questioned about a missing girl, the only words out of my mouth would be to demand legal representation before I said anything else.
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Nick except that your brain wouldn't be working if you were guilty..
6 likesagreed. the only thing is how do you say it? in this case i would have said "you made me wait 20 minutes- no respect, i'm going to talk to my legal council and we'll have this talk after that"
0 likesThis channel has taught me a valuable lesson: Give investigators nothing
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Yushamush, that’s what Casey Anthony did and she’s out and about someplace.
20 likesHopefully not working up a sequel.
7 likesJoseph Cooper Not true, when they would later have no other leads they would come back to ground zero and rework it probably leading to him anyways. #1 rule when being questioned by police wether you did or didn’t commit a crime is to say this single word “lawyer”
8 likesAdmit nothing, deny everything, make counter accusations. Oh, and ask for a lawyer.
4 likesFara Hunter People Roaming the earth guilty as can be.
0 likesOr, and stay with me here, don’t do criminal shit.
16 likesThen you’ve gained the wrong lesson. If you’re innocent you get a lawyer and cooperate with the authorities.
0 likes@Sir Dankleberry This is under the assumption I had committed some awful crime, in which case I use literally all my money to hire the best lawyer possible and then give the investigators little to no information
0 likesYushamush, if you’re getting “how to be a better criminal” lessons from YouTube, you’re probably in the wrong line of work.
2 likesAlso, get a lawyer.
0 likes@Tom Foolery You're under the assumption that only criminals can be arrested and interviewed/interrogated
0 likesNavon Myhand I think I can safely say, not being in the life lowers the fuck out of your chances of having to be in an interrogation room.
0 likesOr you know.. don't murder people
1 like@Tom Foolery You never know how your responses and reactions to questions can incriminate you in the eyes of detectives even if none of the evidence points to you directly
0 likesVery good.
0 likesOnly say lawyer, over and over again
@D DeWitty what if you don't have a lawyer? 😂
0 likes@The Menagerie see this guy was fucced from the start. He had a warrant which allowed them to bring him in, and pretty much question him till they got wht they wanted or until possibly the body was found and make their case from that. Now if u have no warrants etc and they ask u to come in YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SAY NO. There is nothing they can do about that. U just tell them u don't feel comfortable doing that without a lawyer. Yes this will peek their curiosity more but so wht. That will allow u to get a lawyer in the mean time. Even if I'm innocent of a crime I'm not saying anything without my attorney.
0 likesTHIS
0 likesALWAYS ALWAYS ASK FOR A LAWYER.
0 likesinterrogator: "so how long have you known savannah?"
842 likeslee: "according to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly-"
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random but my name is dallon too lmao
8 likeshey dallon is a cool name tbh
8 likes@Kweh thanks :)
1 likeOh hey other daltons!
1 likeHe didn’t say that?
0 likes@Greg Fisher It’s a joke
3 likessai is a banger album
0 likes@SugarcaneJuice111 an absolute banger
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likeslmfao
0 likes'Mom, I'm gonna die when I'm in jail', wow think of how the girl you've killed must have felt when she was in your car and couldn't get out.
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She could have just not talked sh*t about him, trying to ruin his life. Kind of her own fault.
6 likes@Serjo777 swell troll
106 likes@Jack SG Or, you know, common sense. If you want to minimize your risk of getting murdered, maybe don't try to ruin other people's lives.
5 likes@Serjo777 nah I think there's more common sense involved in uhh idk /not/ murdering someone? but sure dude she had it coming
118 likesCrime doesn't pay. No matter how angry you may be it isn't worth it to throw your whole life away by killing someone. Prison is full of fools who couldn't control their anger. Kinda reminds me of that song sung by Jimi Hendrix, "Hey Joe".
36 likesArmani AK47 he's a definite sociopath and they all think about themselves. No conscience.
11 likes@Emilia Davis wow, what a quick diagnose. You must be an amazing doctor
6 likes@Tanya Vasina quick diagnosis is because of a lot of knowledge about narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths, schizophrenics, etc through much reading, listening, watching. Common sense and intuition are very important too.
2 likes@Emilia Davis he is obviously not a sociopath...
5 likes@Natalie and what do you base that on?
0 likes@Emilia Davis Many things. But mainly the fact that he experiences remorse and guilt.
4 likes@Natalie he's sorry he got caught, is all.
1 like@Emilia Davis I probably watched as much of these interrogations as you, and I'd say this guy isn't cold-blooded like the others.
4 likesWe can only hope.
0 likes@Smokey The Boogaloo Bear no u
0 likes@Jack SG if he was that worried about losing his job maybe he shouldn''t of hooked up with her in the first place if he knew that would get him fired? sure thats the most common sense
0 likes@Serjo777 like I said, good troll dude, it got everyone riled up lmao
0 likes@Jack SG Except it wasn't meant as a troll, but whatever ^^
1 likeDirtbag but was surprised he apologized to savannah.
0 likesAnother reason his responses are so long, could be because he sat in anticipation for 90 minutes coming up with canned responses for possible questions. Just a theory
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True
9 likesAlso hes on Adderall, dudes mind is probably racing😂
74 likesJCS just makes shit up that fits the video/cop narrative. One video accepting water is a sign of guilt the next saying no thanks to water is a sign of guilt. It's whatever fits.
21 likesYep, they think of a lot of details in case they are asked, and when they are given awkward silence, they can’t think of anything else.
5 likes@Mark Bergin Hahah thats actually true, he would have blabbered on even if he was innocent.
5 likes@my name is jeeeyf what? Nice stretch there numbskull
1 like@my name is jeeeyf Both cases are correct. It's a tricky question. You have to bring your own water bottle or ask to drink the interrogator's saliva if you're innocent.
15 likes@Ivens Pinheiro Ivens There's no way a person like that can be guilty!
0 likes@my name is jeeeyf i would have asked for coconut juice
2 likes@my name is jeeeyf It really depends on a combination of behavioral most people get caught because they did things heat of the moment or even more stupid bragged about who they killed
1 like@my name is jeeeyf
0 likesIt depends on the person.
That’s exactly what the narrator’s point is that preplanned answers/lies are more drawn out and detailed than someone just telling the truth on the spot don’t matter if he thought of it the day Before on the way to the station or during that 90 min period try again
1 like@Mark Bergin lmfaoo word. My mind races like crazy on it, can’t imagine being on it while sitting in an interrogation room for 90 minutes by myself
0 likesThese are actual psychological tactics. Proven to work. Facts are facts and they don’t care about how you feel. If you were innocent then you wouldn’t act so defensively by elaborating on your response. This is also a year old so I don’t know why your all salty at the channel. He’s just reporting the facts with more analysis....
0 likesHe was brought in for a ticket he didn’t know he was about to be asked about the girl
1 likedetective: how long have you known her?
791 likeslee: tells their whole relationship story
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guy was on adderall
24 likesWell sonny, let me tell you about a year long story.
1 likeAnd that kids is how I met my jail time
0 likesThe female inspector is not my type at all ... First time seeing inspector beggs!!!!
0 likesthis just in: security cameras around the world have finally been upgraded from the cheap 144p quality to a much more crisp resolution of 145p
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Them dudes with the tow trucks got the 1080p cameras junk crazy
26 likesThat upgrade just cost these companies extra 1 000 000$ a year to storage the footage
11 likes@subcomandante marcos um you don't need to keep video evidence of 10 years worth. Loop record maybe 5 days.
2 likes@subcomandante marcos Ever watch the first 48. These detectives better work fast. 😂
0 likes@subcomandante marcos jeg i
0 likesCapsiiscool
0 likesProof
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0 likes@subcomandante marcos For a small premises, 6-7 decent cameras, 24/7.. 1TB for a week would suffice, so about 4 for the month, continuous rolling. The whole setup, less that $500. Storage is nothing nowadays!
1 like@subcomandante marcos
0 likesI have a solar-powered camera that has its own Wi-Fi chip and it's 1080p saves everything in the cloud for three months at a time and I'll let you research this data on your own to figure out what I got and what service it provides with only one yearly payments of $35
When are we going to see an interregation of someone inocent? love the content!
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Plus Rep that’s an interesting idea.
3 likesHe has done it once. The video is now only available on his patreon though
19 likes@IIAndersII wait which one is it on his patreon.
1 like@sky the weeb can't remember the name. He made the video at least a year ago. The interrogated person was black (despite the fact that eye witnesses said the person was white). Was a very good video - seeing interrogation strategies fail for once.
6 likes@sky the weeb I'm not a patreon, but watched it on YouTube before it got taken down. I guess it is on his patreon
0 likes@IIAndersII thank you.
0 likesHe also recently did one about a woman who was refusing to sell out her husband about killing their daughter and the cops were treating her as if she was guilty. It was heart wrenching
3 likes@Jared Willebeek-LeMair whats the videos name or link
0 likes@BidoMaggot Police interrogations pt.17, the woman at the start.
0 likesomg he made one where the innocent guy was actually shot twice in the head and was left in the interrogation room for hours and no one noticed he had bullets in his head
4 likes@BidoMaggot I think it's police interrogations pt 17, patreon only :(
0 likesyessy kongaruni : oh my God!
0 likesThere’s been a few - the commenters below mentioned two but there was another where a guy was being interrogated for murdering his girlfriend. They talked to him like they had him dead to rights even though he had a solid alibi, and they ended up putting him in jail for a time after he was literally convicted. Turns out the neighbour murdered her (I think the neighbour was a serial killer, even). Boyfriend was released.
2 likesFound it - it was the murder of Nona Dirksmeyer. Video is only on patreon but you can google the case.
Don't forget about Jeff the Junkie who played them like a fiddle for a few free Cokes
1 like@alanasbury84 haha! i had forgot about Jeff😉
1 like@Hybel Fever Wam bam, thanks for the Coke! Put me back in my cell
0 likesI don't know how on this earth people are saying that the lady detective is believable when she interjects with that "my little girl" line... She sounds like she came straight out of a D list wannabe Hollywood production. Then all those "pleaasseeee pleasseee whyyyyy"'s made me cringe super hard.
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It was for him. He was already under a lot of pressure, and he could've not really thought it was a lie and the guilt made it worse.
0 likes“How long have you known Savannah?”
0 likes“In the beginning, God created heaven and earth…”
Detective: “so, how long have you known her?”
439 likesLee: “The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds...”
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not a good meme
2 likesThis is funny and those two idiots are just trying to be different or whatever
13 likes😂😂
0 likes@Guts ...or both...
1 like@SurvivorPerro lol true
0 likesBeep
0 likes@B1 Boi do you speak English, mate? Nothing you say is remotely funny or insightful.
0 likesHaha genius.
0 likes@B1 Boi 1.) don't* and 2.) Ok zoomer
0 likesOk @Boomer Glossy
1 like@B1 Boi ...sopose?
0 likesThat female interrogator 🙄🙄🙄
0 likes... the misogyny in these comments 😬
0 likesBut why did he do it I wonder
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there is always 2 sides of the story
1 like“How long have you known her?"
267 likes"In the metaphysics of identity, the ship of Theseus is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object. The concept is one of the oldest in Western philosophy, having been discussed by Heraclitus and Plato by c. 500–400 BC. The thought puzzle was discussed by ancient philosophers such as Heraclitus (Cratylus 401d) and Plato (Parmenides 139),[1] later by Plutarch,[2] and more recently by Thomas Hobbes and John Locke. Several variants are known, including the grandfather's axe, which has had both head and handle replaced. The puzzle itself is an example of Ship of Theseus, as the original story has had various elements replaced over time.
The particular "ship of Theseus" version of the thought puzzle was first introduced in Greek legend as reported by the historian, biographer, and essayist Plutarch:
The ship wherein Theseus and the youth of Athens returned from Crete had thirty oars, and was preserved by the Athenians down even to the time of Demetrius Phalereus, for they took away the old planks as they decayed, putting in new and stronger timber in their places, insomuch that this ship became a standing example among the philosophers, for the logical question of things that grow; one side holding that the ship remained the same, and the other contending that it was not the same.
— Plutarch, Theseus[2]
Plutarch thus questions whether the ship would remain the same if it were entirely replaced, piece by piece. Centuries later, the philosopher Thomas Hobbes introduced a further puzzle, wondering what would happen if the original planks were gathered up after they were replaced, and then used to build a second ship.[3] Hobbes asked which ship, if either, would be the original ship of Theseus.
An ancient Buddhist text titled in Sanskrit Mahāprajñāpāramitopadeśa, which was later translated into Classical Chinese (Da zhidu lun 大智度論), contains a similar philosophical puzzle. It takes the form of a body-swapping story. The story tells of a traveler who encountered two demons in the night. As one demon ripped off all parts of his body one by one, the other demon replaced them with those of a corpse. The traveler was left confused about who he was after the body-swapping."
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Nice
5 likesLmao 😂
0 likesCitations and everything, damn he's good.
4 likesLMAO
0 likesYou missed out David Hume so I gave you a thumbs down.
2 likespls wat- 😃
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
0 likes🤣😂
0 likeswhy are some of jcs videos removed? like the jerrod murray or jodi arias
0 likesAll this can be avoided i you don't kill people folks
0 likesLook on this guy's face when he found out they had video was epic.
0 likesWhen he starts talking about how savannah was using drugs, I honestly believe he said that to make her look like the villain in the story. In his tiny speck sized brain he probably thought "If talk about her doing drugs then she becomes bad guy."
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That's exactly why he said it.. to try to make the guy think he didnt consider murdering a drug addicted person a real murder or something.
13 likesI think he is projecting. I think he is basically switching roles with her in his story to make himself the victim, because he knows he's not and she is, so he says she's the one using and he's the one who left her for it when it was probably the exact opposite. Especially since there was no drugs found in her system but he admits to taking unperscribed adderall that day.
19 likesAnd to make him look like the hero, lecturing her on why she shouldn't do hard drugs. He claimed he split with her when she started on hard drugs because he's all responsible and shit, but we all know she's the one who dumped his ass.
3 likes@Meghan Mitchell That's exactly it. He introduced her to hard drugs, he's the addict here, and she got addicted because of him.
0 likesGreat observation. Most abusers, DV offenders and murderers will attempt to vilify their victims. This goes for both male and female offenders.
0 likesAyyeee spider
0 likesI think, in his own twisted mind, he genuinely thinks she is the villain. After his confession, he says, "fucking Savannah," and "should've just told her to leave me alone." Nobody is around, but he is still blaming her for everything. He probably thinks that it was her fault he killed her.
1 likeLMAO at giving the cops motive
0 likesthe female police office was so melodramatic it pissed me off
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yeah! Luckily it was a tactic, trying to echo Lee's emotional state. Worked too, see confession here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9716s After he started confessing she stopped being melodramatic.
0 likesIf you have information on a missing person, only ever call the police. Do not ever provide this information to somebody claiming to be looking for the person. This is a tactic used by traffickers when one of their victims has gotten away from them.
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Wow, I did not know that that. I would be suspicious of someone asking but not realize why. that's interesting. Man, the world seems as evil as hell. I am hypersensitive to people's behavior now.
28 likesOh shit, I told that sketchy Albanian guy literally everything...now that I think of it I’m not sure he was really her brother in law
4 likesThis reminds me of a T-Shirt I saw the other day.
1 like"I will throw you in the trunk of my car and help your friends and family look for you. Please leave me alone!"
Amateur interrogation
1 likeSavannah was a beautiful girl.
0 likesThe fact that he does not want to die in jail but murdered someone is beyond me. Afraid that other inmates gonna do the same thing he did....
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@J what did you struggle to understand?
13 likessorry if my English is bad, I am not a native English speaker so sometimes I do not know if the sentences make sense or are grammatically right LOL
5 likesYou said it perfectly.
13 likes@J you can watch 34:50 for context
3 likes@J you can watch 34:35 for context
3 likes@emxne He wasn't thinking clearly when he committed the murder. That doesn't mean he's not aware that death is bad.
0 likes@emxne your English was great man
2 likesWhy? Most killings are done by normal regular people, not some special psycho type.
1 like@Kirill Burtsev Yes. The capacity for murder is within all of us, and the most seasoned detectives know this.
1 like@emxne
1 likeEnglish isn't my first language either but I understood what you said
No he’s a pretty boy so he’ll be real popular with Bubba
0 likesPolice officer 🥴
0 likesTHIS IS MY HOMETOWN???? WHAT THE HELL
0 likesI've spent many hours researching missing and unidentified bodies. Most are women, you know that, however what you may not know and is never actually stated anywhere but almost every woman that ends up with these horrific deaths are almost always 5'3 and under and under 120lbs So please...make sure that the girls you know who are in that size range to please be EXTRA careful in where you go, who your with and try to get them to understand the odds are Not in their favor when it comes to drinking or recreational drug use.
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Time to get beefy
46 likesAnd self defense classes
17 likesMe over here at 5'1.
2 likesGood thing I’m 200:)
9 likesYep.
0 likesits a good day to be a 170 5’11 girl!!
11 likesThat's horrific... Like hunting small prey...
7 likesIm on the cusp of 5'3"..can someone give me their height?
0 likesYour first sentence. Context.
3 likesplease
Me, a round gal: safe
2 likesAlso, a strong reason for women to conceal carry.
7 likesMe a 4'10 21 yrs old, weighing 102 lbs: 👁👄👁
2 likes@VisualxxKhaos but probably true
0 likesDeuceGenius just the perfect opportunity to fatshame women and in such a... classy way as well!
3 likesWow!
@bear532 tbh pepper spray isn't much use. if your opponent has the decent will power of an average person, then they'll be able to force their eyes open and attack you. They'll be pissed so they'll be even more violent in their attack. Also, if they're close enough when you used it they won't even have to open their eyes they'll just grab you where you last were before they closed their eyes. Seriously, the only thing pepper spray does is make your eyes sting and water and give you a running nose.
0 likes@EramSemperRecta unless they have balls of steel
0 likesARMYALEX I’ve never been pepper sprayed so I don’t know how it feels. I was watching a video once on one of the guys from jackass and he tested the self defense stuff on himself to find which is best. He said pepper spray was the best out of everything which is why I chose that. Plus, it’s very small and discreet so you can carry it with you all the time.
0 likes160 cm and 54,4 kg for my peeps. You’re welcome.
1 like@ARMYALEX How will the pepper spray help now with them masks on and what if the attacker has glasses on too? I didnt even think of this possibility untill a collegue told me that a pepper spray is of no use in that situation... we need guns
0 likes@Smith-Mundt Modernization NDAA 2013(Look into it) i have actually, which is why if you look at my comments one of them explained in DETAILS why pepper sprays aren't always reliable and how you can fight it off
0 likes@Sailor Moon your glasses will barely do anything when you get sprayed. it doesn't protect your eyes from all sides. you might have a better chance with a pair of goggles.
0 likesThe ending argument of JCS "well he was so much heavier and larger then her so it is obviously impossible for her to ever be threat to him" is such bullshit.
0 likesIn other JCS inspired video, suspect/victim was heavier/larger then his attacker, was trained in martial arts and still the smaller and less trained attacker managed to pummel him to ground without him able to defend himself simply due to intensity and unexpectednes of the attack.
This is clear example of bias. JCS already knew he was guilty so he decided to look at everything from that viewpoint (which would be fine), but then not realizing that his arguments are tinted by that bias and without this foreknowledge, they would not make sense
He reall got Gollum there
0 likesIt is weird to see how afraid he is to get killed in jail, while he just did that same thing to someone else.
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If he goes in there blubbering.
16 likes@Chris Campbell 💀💀💀💀
2 likesHow is that weird? Do you expect a killer to lose fear of death?
1 likeI also don’t really see why he thinks he would be a target for violence? Unless Savannah has family in state pen I’m not sure what he’s so scared of
0 likesTHe legend of Jeff...
0 likeslast time i get to wear a chefs coat lol
0 likesThere's a third type. I call it "Afraid of the Mattress-Tag Police" type. They're totally innocent & have nothing to hide but are still so paranoid they talk for 10 minutes anyway.
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My mom's like this 🤦
3 likesChristina Reeves you sound like my daughter lol :)
2 likesDumb question but why didn’t he just get up and leave the interrogation? It’s not like he was arrested.
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They arrested him and he was read his rights
0 likesFor anyone who is interested: he got sentenced to 40 YEARS in prison three months ago!
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Holy moly!
6 likesThis punishment will not do a ***t to minimize this type of case
10 likeswas looking for this thx
4 likes@Nazma Hazari What do you believe will?
7 likesThank you for this!! I feel satisfied now
8 likesyay
2 likes@Stephillpotten I wrote but YouTube deleted 🤣
1 like@Mufti_Menk trust me bro this ppl doesn't care they will only care if he is Muslim. U would see them barking like a wild dog
2 likesAin’t shit he’ll be home in 20 could do that standing on my head. #FreeDaHomie
0 likes@Nazma Hazari No, random acts of violence are hard to prevent. But what do you suggest?
2 likes@P. Albi 17 ppl in high school s***ting
0 likesGlad to know
1 likeYeah. 40 years and it wasn't even first degree murder... That's actually a little much IMO, he's not sick he just made a really bad mistake. He should have only gotten 20-25 years IMO.
6 likesDid they fined her body??
1 likeHe is where he should be. Miserable forever.
6 likes@Adam yes
1 like@Mufti_Menk He might in 40 years or less.
1 like@Nazma Hazari Muslim?? What are u talking about?
0 likesNot exactly a win but I'll take it.
3 likes@Tyler Dixon 40 actually lol
1 like@Jeff Sokol Do i seem like a dishonest dirty person?🤣
2 likes@Mufti_Menk He's not a psycho. A psycho doesn't feel human emotions. He's perfectly sane, just made a terrible decision.
1 like@Mustachio kind of agree. Dude will be 70 before he gets out, and he'll likely die in prison before that anyways.
0 likes@CheEzy Prince Andrew!!
0 likes@CheEzy how is murdering someone not worse than molesting them?
1 like@ShinkuRED To me every murderer is a psycho. You can defend killers all you want, but I won't.
1 likeI know the female detective is just doing her job but good lord, her voice made me just about turn this off. Her strategy is to whine suspects into confessing I guess, she really didnt add anything to what the other detective was doing.
1 likeDetective: “So how did you know Savanna?”
630 likesLee: “Well see, she did a lot of drugs.”
DUDE thought with his 🤔 and his 🤔 poor SAVANNAH
0 likesImagine You were telling a lie then suddenly a "click" sound paused the time, everything went gray and some mysterious calm voice said: "We can clearly see the suspect is in state of several panic while trying to convince the detectives he didn't intentionally waked up 3 am and clogged the toilet of their friends after the pepper eating party, leading them to die by the toxic gases"
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Hmm... Thats quite precise to be a random thought... Btw
11 likes•°'what`°•
@xxZozanxx My random thoughts are like: What if the guy who falled from the top floor of the 20m building yesterday in the news when he was using his phone actually was a homicide because he was being observated by someone who intentionally called him for scaring him leading both the evidence and the man falling in a seemingly natural way
9 likes@R4Fa3L 😂
1 like@R4Fa3L I feel like I just wanna ask you what are you thinking about now every 5 mins 😂
1 likesubject-verb agreement for "intentionally waked up 3 am"
1 like@Drea C It depends, my state of mind is generally very calm.
0 likesIf i am worried about something i make a plan, with a usually 3 backup plans, just to be sure i won't fail.
If there's a problem to solve, i use critical thinking.
But if i find an unusual link between things i make a joke about it for avoiding to forget later on.
@R4Fa3L and then in action, you act like Jodi instead 😂
0 likes@Cbb Blue lol
0 likesJust don’t kill people.
0 likesCrying for himself ...........
1 like14:02 UH OH! MOTIVE! MOTIVE! MOTIVE!
0 likesOne day when you have kids.....
0 likesThey left him in that room for 90 minutes, all alone, with only his thoughts to accompany him. So much must be going through his mind in all that time. And then when the door is opened after all that time, the first person who walks in is the same police detective who a day before asked him about a person who He killed.... Wow what an amazing tactic by the police. Well-done 👏👏
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Yeah, I watched the video too
54 likes@Sandra Swan Sandra watched the video your comment if hereby invalid
10 likesI mean who else was he expecting to walk through that door? Starsky and huch?
1 like@Tate Baker you're called yung bruh and expect people to take you seriosly?
2 likesThats why hes asks to go to the bathroom so he could dump his soiled undies in the trash after shtting himself when the detective walk in.....
0 likesI actually contacted the police and told them what you said. They responded by telling me they did this tactic for one reason: they knew it would please Junayd lr.
0 likesOnly weak people would feel uncomfortable due to that.
0 likes12:12 What was the question?
0 likesyou got me baging you for mercy,why wont you release me,you got me baging you for meeeeercy why wont you release me...lalala
0 likes여자주제에 남자인생을 망치지 말아라
0 likesThe female interrogator was slightly annoying. Her voice could get overly emotional and dramatic and it sounded like she was auditioning for a bad soap opera. The other interrogator was awesome.
0 likes“ Probably not the best advertisement for the Bonefish Grill” lmao
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Gustavo Gastelum neither is the food tbh
14 likesNeither is the fact that a cook killed a waitress.
36 likesDon Diego that’s literally what his comment referred to. 🤦🏻♂️
13 likes@Billy Bob Bobson no it wasn't, it was a quote from Jim about the claim from the guy who was the head chef when he said he was peeling his scabs at work.
41 likesLol
0 likesBrokebonefish Grill
0 likesThat moment the guy who does a facepalm is wrong, talk about ironic
5 likesPaul D looool!!! Gimme two orders of scabs to go with tartar sauce on the side. Oh, and yeah, the reddish the better. Thanks
3 likesBonefish Grill. We bone em, then grill em! Served fresh, everyday!
4 likesI’ve never been. I heard it’s good😋
1 likeAs this part of the video played i read this comment ahahah
0 likes@Papaya I’m no critic, but the one near me is really good and it’s pretty fancy for a chain restaurant. It’s also kinda pricey.
0 likesDruggies, murder and dinner. What more do you want?
0 likesI Laughed so hard too! 😂
0 likesPlus he said he picks his scabs at work.....🤮
0 likes“How are you”
0 likesI don’t know 🤷♂️
Give short answers, noted.
1 likeHot take: That woman investigator is kinda annoying lol
0 likesYou fucked up Lee. You did make something of your life A Convict.
0 likesi love seeing all the new comments. at least i’m not the only one binging all of their videos.
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Youtube algorithm doing work looks like! These videos are so interesting, binge watching them like an award winning TV series as well!
26 likesI'm obsessed and wish there were 100's more
12 likesno you're absolutely not
1 like@Tiffany E same but i cannot imagine how long and how much energy it takes to make just one 😫
3 likesHis videos are addictive. And so informative
4 likes@Hannah not so much actually. he just rolls the interrogation footage and comments on it every 5 minutes
1 like@StahliCell Yeah I didn't watch those kind of videos but YouTube randomly recommended me his videos and I love them
0 likesDude same
0 likesSAME
0 likesim upset there isn't more of these
0 likesI figured that too, this channel is blowing up.
0 likesSAME every video is so interesting to me i’ve been binge-watching this channel for a few days
1 likeIt makes for interesting background noise at work.
1 likei love watching them
0 likesDef not.
0 likesI got recommended the video about acting phsycotic, and after seeing how few videoes there are I'm absolutely hooked into a multi-day binge at this point
0 likes@Valentine LMAOO same exact thing for me. it was the nicolas cruz video hahah
0 likes@StahliCell youre 100% right! which video did u get recommended first? I got the one about the school shooter man did an hour pass so fast
0 likesI’ve watched like 10 in the last day lol
0 likes@Ryan Clair I'm on number 15 currently :D
0 likesWOOO CRIMINAL INTERROGATION BINGE WITH THA BOYS
1 likenot binging. this video sucked until he started crying like a little schoolgirl.
0 likessame all of them are so fascinating to watch
1 likeI'm cranking one out after I finish this video to relieve some stress lol
1 likeI love hearing men cry
0 likesLooking at a case like this just creeps me the f* out at how close some regular successful manager type employees are literally one psychotic episode away from horrifically murdering someone. Yikes.
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Yeah hope I don’t get this treatment next time I call in sick for work
18 likesI don’t think I’d call the kitchen manager at a chain restaurant “successful” lol. But I get what you mean. Any person can snap in the heat of the moment depending on circumstances. That’s why our judicial system has many different levels of charges for murder.
15 likesEven I am dating my manager 😶 this shook me🤢🤢🤢
0 likes@Jeffrey Higgins Stanford Prison Experiment
8 likes@Jeffrey Higgins cba to verify but i remember it was debunked.
2 likesNot even a psychotic episode
3 likesYou should always always have a plan to kill everyone else you ever meet. BUT at the same time you should also always treat others as if they are one last straw away from a mass killing spree themselves.
4 likesBe nice to people, but trust no one.
Be as wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
@Jeffrey Higgins The Stanford Prison Experiment? If you looked into that one, you can't even call it a proper experiment. They urged the 'guard' students to be tough and treat the 'prisoner' students like crap then turn around and act all surprised when the students start acting exactly how they wanted them to. Milgram's experiment is a better example of good people doing bad thing's in certain circumstances.
3 likes@Joralion thanks for the information. I saw that on tv years ago when the ‘experiment’ first came out. Thanks for the other referring to Milgram’s. I’ll have to look that up.
1 likeThe two had a relationship and history. There was a motive behind it.
4 likesAnybody is capable of anything
2 likesHe wasn't "regular" though. His mom was a meth head and by his own admission he had a rough early life. Now think of the type of father figures that kind of child hood likely gave him. Think of the type of guy his biological father likely was. Bad genes + bad environment = bad outcome.
3 likesThis is why you have to always be aware of red flags. You never know what somebody is going through, what they are thinking or what's going through their head. Show kindness to everyone, but also be cautious. If somebody doesn't seem right and you are scared, don't put yourself in a situation where they could harm or kill you. And if you see something, SAY SOMETHING. You might just prevent a tragedy.
2 likes@Lunar Phoenix Just cos he did something evil doesn’t mean he’s been evil or has had evil intentions before. He was a really nice guy and is actually remorseful of what he had done.
0 likesInjuries to 75% of her body?🥺 And YOU’RE crying?!! I can only imagine how she screamed for her life. And self defense??!! But that girl dealt with all those injuries slowly, suffered and died. Deepest parts of Hell for you sir! Hope you feel some of what she did.
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@Julio cbp It was
0 likes@Julio cbp It wasn't
0 likesOut of curiosity: I’m a really anxious person and when I’m telling a story (for example, why I was late somewhere), I over-explain and add unnecessary details because I’m afraid people will think I’m being dishonest. It stems from childhood trauma around not being believed about a sexual assault. Would my history be taken into consideration by a forensic psychologist if I were accused of a crime, or would it be based on the interrogation alone?
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i’ve heard of so many cases where the people being interrogated were innocent and literally didn’t even have any psychological backing to hint that they were guilty and yet they were still accused of the crimes. This question is entirely dependent on the people who’re interrogating you. If they care about their job they will likely take everything into consideration especially if there’s no evidence leading towards you, rambling won’t matter too much. But in the cases such as the innocent guys i saw from America being accused, if the interrogators just wanna close the case and move on (make their money/be lazy) then yes it could definitely play role in you being accused.
53 likesas a rule of thumb i suggest not speaking until a lawyers present guilty or not
99 likes@tad h thanks for your thorough reply! hopefully I’ll never be in this situation, but good advice nonetheless.
19 likesDont talk to the cops, and you won't have any issues like that
32 likes@J B no worries! i’m an anxious person as well so i’ve had the exact same thought before
12 likesI relate to this behavior, and I also have other neurodivergences that make me prone to this. Thankfully I'm a bit excessively contextually aware and I think my best saving grace would be the fact that I'm the sort to go fully meta and explain my own propensities and contextualize my own tone and everything I'm saying before proceeding to overexplain lol.
16 likes(That and I've watched too much of this type of content and legal content so I'd never talk at all before getting an attorney anyway lol, but like hypothetically if I were talking, I know I'd wind up going out of my way to qualify why I'm qualifying the way I'm qualifying everything I say lol, and I figure that would establish enough logical consistency overall for my behavior to be understood in an appropriate personalized way by qualified pros. But of course, without a doubt, if I were a male or a person of color or less articulate, I'd probably be a lot less willing to assume that my demeanor would be taken as sincere and that I'd turn out fine.)
@The plural is actually "asparageese". oh my god, I do the same! I’ll tell a story and start to ramble, and then I’ll say something like, “oh my god, why am I telling you all of these totally inconsequential details? sorry, I’m on a tangent. uh, where was I? …oh!”
11 likes@J B tell about the trauma, what happened? Did they tell you why they didn’t believe you?
0 likes@Tony Arcieri are you asking me to tell you, or advising I tell the police if I’m ever in this situation?
24 likesedit: I just saw your other comments on JCS’ videos. gems include, “just a typical female” in relation to jodi arias, and “barb shouldn’t have poked the bear on christmas” regarding the ‘christmas with cliff’ perp who killed his ex wife and maimed his daughter. who hurt you?
It should be factored into your baseline. Thats why he says “usually” an innocent would respond like this.
1 likeYou keep your mouth shut and ask for an attorney. Assuming you’re under arrest. If not, gtfo and don’t say shit. Cops are NOT your friends and they have one job, which is to build a case against you. Guilty or not. Don’t make it easier for them. You have the right to remain silent. Use it. Lawyer up.
14 likesAnd that’s for anyone, nothing to do with your anxiety either way.
Every attorney and decent cop I have ever known says the same.
I hope none of you never end up in that position. But you do, don’t you hesitate to use those rights. 🤗
As long as you don't murder someone the chances of that coincidence are pretty small. Guess you'll know if you're ever a murder suspect.
2 likes@tad h in America
1 likeIf you are over explaining why you are late. I think you just proved his point. Over explain = guilt
0 likesI think about this because autism often presents as a lack of emotion in the face and there are damaging academic histories that say that autistic people lack empathy, so we are often compared to or confused with sociopaths/psychopaths/narcissists
9 likes@Tony Arcieri yeah. dont tell people to tell you about their trauma. just some handy advice for next time.
0 likes@P. Elle T. exactly, mainly in america, as for other countries there aren’t many resources regarding the law/crime system
1 likeThis guys anguish is surprisingly uplifting. Watching this and others like it, gives a particular charging effect, especially in the early mornings. Thanks for the recent upload.
2 likesHearing him squirm "mom im gonna die in jail", gave me a smile...this is some heartbreaking shit..these cases break my heart..
109 likesLord please protect me & my family from this type of evil
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The God I've heard so much about doesn't like cruelty. This guy's or yours.
6 likes@That Dude Over There you should try reading the old testament then.
5 likesI was thinking about how I never seen a female detective in one of these and then I realize they used her for an "emotional approach", I wonder how common a tactic that is for female detectives, I wish he went into that more.
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There's actually many female detectives with regular tactics you just didn't watch enough videos lol
12 likes@White lilies I literally only watch these videos, I just finished watching every video on the channel after finding it in the summer
1 like@White lilies Also I never seen I didn;t think female detectives use regular tactics
0 likesIt’s annoying and does not work, especially on men.
3 likes@J K 🤨 How can you say that in the comments of a video of it working?
31 likesDid you not watch the female detective, Tammy go to work on Chris Watts? She was very impressive.
18 likes@Simon 1985 Yeah, I actually watched that one right after this, it was the last case I needed to watch on this channel, she was very impressive.
4 likes...and she looks hot there. Sweet voice too.
0 likesIt’s an amazing tool to have! This is why I think male and female detectives work very well as interrogation partners.
3 likes@J K go ahead take her place and still fail at the job
1 likeI’ve seen female deprives on here. They often offer a mom’s perspective, almost a nurturing tone in questions.
2 likes“A guilty person tends to over explain answers to simple questions”
24 likes10 minutes later…
Gre you weren’t kidding..
I really appreciate your comments and analysis. How often do you post? I wish there were more.
0 likesThat female detective learned everything she knows from crime dramas and telenovelas
7 likesi always wonder if the investigators feel a sense of giddiness when they hear someone start to ramble themselves into the confession. if they don’t, i feel it enough for us all haha
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Probably more a sense of satisfaction...
0 likeshe's honestly better than so many other criminals. at the very least he regrets his actions. also you can clearly see that he isn't mentally stable, he likely has a drug addiction and actual self harming tendencies. its just a thought idk for sure. hopefully the time in prison does him good
0 likesI only do some pain pills and adderall sometimes but hard drugs scare me! Dude, those are hard drugs! Just because they come from a pharmacy does not mean they aren’t hard drugs, and will probably mess you up worse than the “hard drugs”!
0 likesThere wasn’t anything more satisfying than seeing him crying coming to the realisation that he was going to spend the rest of his miserable life caged up like a dangerous animals .
8 likesFemale interrogator really blew her wad with that emotional act.
4 likesGod how great would it be to be a detective walking in on a suspect carrying what's essentially a royal flush in your back pocket?
1 likeThe investigator did a d*mn good job allowing this P.O.S. to bury himself.
I'm certain I probably would have gotten worked up & blurted out "LIAR!" when hearing him b.s. & badmouth the person he just murdered.
This is my second time watching this just because it's classic. Everything from how it played out to the way JCS broke it all down.
I seem to find myself always saying this in my more recent post I make on this channel, but it still remains to be true. "JCS often imitated but never duplicated." His breakdowns are just on another level compared to the others.
Hey JCS I truly hope you do begin uploading more frequently, but even if you don't thanks for giving us the many hours of great content as well as creating a whole new Genre on YouTube.
I bet his lawyer was thrilled to get handed this case lol.
2 likesThe "im so sorry savannah" thing sent me chills. The audacity.
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Why the audacity? ...I'm in no way, shape, or form condoning what he did. Despicable and senseless. But he could very well be genuinely sorry for what he did to her
0 likesI think all of that whining and crying for the camera after the confession was just part of the act. He knows he's being recorded. He didn't show his victim any mercy. He deserves none now.
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Exactly. No mercy for the devil.
0 likesThe crying was real but it wasn't for her.
0 likesMan that ending where he's literally just knowing his life is over but also realizing he never should be there in the first place...
1 likeIt's like when somebody has road rage and kills somebody.. but in their home life they have a family, a dog, a house, they're happy. And then one day something just drives them over the edge for a few seconds.
And yeah you can totally believe that they are sorry and remorseful but it's too late the person is already dead..
Seriously be nice to people be calm and courteous you just never know.. yeah they're going to jail for the rest of their life but you're dead so what's the point.
They could’ve saved a bunch of time had they just shown the dude the video he doesn’t believe they have 🤡
1 likeIt's good to know that when they have evidence they don't tell you about it, and when don't have evidence they brag about it.
1 likeI will admit, even knowing what I know, it was still difficult seeing his pure agony at the end. Don't get me wrong, he did all this, he deserves what is coming, but I don't relish in people's agony. I pity the fact that this ever happened to begin with, that this man caused so much suffering, for himself, and those around him. What a tragedy. :(
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Very well said
0 likesGotta love the continued pure quality of surveillance cameras
2 likesSuch a GREAT CHANNEL. ALWAYS AMAZING AND INFORMATIVE.FASCINATING
0 likes"But that's not true because we have proof". The timing and delivery was 10/10. What a G
1 likeI never thought I’d see a 40 minute interrogation video where the confession part is not available for some reason.
1 likeI wonder if he had gotten out of this by demanding for a lawyer from the beginning. If they only had confession and footage of leaving with her.
0 likesMade a mistake trying to not be suspicious by asking for a lawyer.
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Are you saying you want a murderer to not be convicted?
0 likesIn all of this I don’t see him really regretting doing it to her more that he got caught and is being punished.
0 likesI love the glare the detective gives to the camera at 7:10:51-ish; right after the suspect asks for more water. Right after asking to use the restroom. Total: “What the fuck dude? Let me do my job; you’re wasting my time.”
0 likesyou should make more videos you can take over Youtube 👍
0 likesDid we ever get to find out his motive, or was it really just an accident between 2 junkies.
1 likeFull video available, here is a link to where the confession starts: https://youtu.be/UudPVoO0kjU?t=9780
0 likesJCS keep doing what you do!
After the lady detective begged, I wouldn't have given a confession. It was a pathetic and annoying desperate plea just foe her to go home. She would have made me not confess with an approach like that. The male detective has a much better approach and professionalism
0 likes"Mom, I'm gonna die when I'm in jail"
10 likesRightfully so bud..
I love going to sleep to the sounds of murderers crying. ❤
0 likesFear will really hit him on the ride to prison especially when he sees the prison pulling up at the guard shack.I didn’t hurt nobody but I’ve experienced the ride
1 like“So how long have you known Savannah?”
15 likes“Well, I was born at a very young age…”
Never mess around with people from work and people who do drugs
3 likesDid anyone notice when the interrogator was talking about parents worrying about kids he said "someday when you have kids"? I'm sure the interrogator knew the suspect would never have kids, so was this simply a slip of the tongue or was it deliberate?
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Pretty sure it was deliberate to create a sense of calm and hope in the perpetrator. Unconsciously making him feel safe that “ah she wouldn’t be saying that if she thought i did it” so that hr lowers his guard
5 likesThe lady seems a bit hysterical. JCS vids are the best. Better than all the rest.
1 likeI recall sitting in the Ale House which is in the next plaza over listening to someone recount this story. I thought they were referring to the Ale House at the time. Another sad tale of the Florida Man gone by...
0 likesImagine having to wait
0 likes5.23 seconds for someone to finish an answer to a simple question.
"So how do you know Savannah"
1 likeproceeds to explain her drug life
The "to your neck?" from silent cop, cracked me up though. She's like really 😮💨... thats the lie you came up with.
Complete confession with time stamp to the unreleased portion as stated in this video for those interested: https://youtu.be/UudPVoO0kjU?t=9780
0 likesthis dude killed another human being...to save his job as a manager and cook at a restaurant...
2 likes12 minutes into this interview the killer coughs up the motive for killing her - she was talking about him. NOT TOO SMART. I didn't hear right to remain silent mentioned. Come on, Lee!
0 likesWhen you said (paraphrasing) 'someone with something to hide is long winded in responses to questions that should have very simple answers'...and he started explaining in depth about the relationship I wanted to say "Welll they -d-d ask for him to elaborate so maybe he's just trying to elaborate...".....but then he wouldn't stop. And he just....kept going.
0 likesAnd it was like....stop.
It's surprising to me that they know heroine doesn't make you paranoid. Most people, who have never used drugs, usually have no idea what they do and assume the worst. In my experience, it seems like a lot of people tend to equate heroine to something more like LSD.
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You hit the nail on the head. I have told people I have done LSD and they looked at me as if I were a Heroin user. Both drugs make you feel insanely good, but that is where the comparison ends!
1 likedetectives did a great job
0 likesBrilliant work on their part.
1 likeWho reads those texts and goes “fair enough, safe trip x”
6 likesCop 1:"the guilty guy says "what"?!"
0 likesGuy: "uuhhmm...."
Cop 2 :"what?"
Cop 1 heavy breathing "jerry, no."
Homie just called bonefish grill a diner like it’s not the 3rd fanciest restaurant in half the towns in the southeast.
9 likesHe eventually plead guilty and was sentenced to 40 years in prison.
1 likeIs there any connection between speaking to yourself in the second person and the horrible crimes these people commit, or is my sample size too small?
0 likesHe doesn’t even regret what he did, he just regrets that he got caught
0 likesBad timing on taking that adderall! 😆
3 likesi wonder if he just snapped from the stress? or was it the history of drug use ? Something just didint click in his head and made him commit this crime.
0 likesNotice how he still didn't take accountability. It might sound like it but hes saying "YOU did this" "YOURE an idiot". Sure he might be talking to himself but he still refuses to say "I did this" "What was I thinking".
0 likesGuilty of second degree murder, 40 years with 2 years credit for time served. For a moment of madness
0 likesCop asked a question and he gave them a novel 😂
0 likes2:56 Why? Did he think the car would come to life and go Christine on him in revenge for it's owner?
0 likesThe detective literally asked one question....ONE and he dimed himself out.
1 likeOk maybe I’m jumping the gun here but didn’t he say he saw her at work and she was healthy? That was the last time he saw her and now he saw her to confront her about gossip and she was on heroin? Lmao what?!
0 likesShit, i accidentally clicked and once again got roped into your videos. You're definately the best at these but i was trying to watch ghost hunting videos.
0 likesI think that the unshown footage would indicate that they made threats against him if he chose not to confess. Don't get me wrong, that guy is a piece of shit who I hope gets put under the jail, but the investigators shit the bed to get their confession and now there has to be a shadow of doubt in regard to his guilt.
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Here the full confession https://youtu.be/UudPVoO0kjU
0 likesHad he not texted with her phone and refused to submit to interrogation he would have gotten away with it. I don’t say that as a devils advocate, I say that because it’s scary to know that even in the 21st century that murder is still a crime that people can get away with.
0 likesMarch, 2021 he ended up pleading guilty to 2nd degree murder. Looks like he's getting 40 years, less time served.
0 likesyes he took her his home, called Uber they burnt her and than dumped her, wow, i didnt know uber did things like that
0 likes"but by no means" easy" meanwhile we out here laughing at this murderer's pain
0 likesAll I can think of is my mom seeing through my bullshit in one second flat after I got into trouble.
0 likesI live like 10 minutes from san hose blvd.. crazy that this shit happened so close to me
1 likeY’all ever imagine yourself in the criminals situation even though you know you’d never do it. Or I guess what you would say if you were being interrogated.
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100% in the sense of how to convey myself if I was innocent and being accused of something I didn't do.
2 likesThe problem of weak men is a very real one.
1 likeWhy do people talk to themselves in a recorded room? I don't think I've talked to myself out loud ever but after I just admitted to killing someone and know the room is taped? Nah
0 likesHis lawyer is like 'bruh you can think inside your head!'
2 likesdid he live away from other homes bc the burning of a human body would be pretty noticeable
2 likesHope he rots in jail and never EVER gets out. What he did to that poor girl is unreal. She had her entire life to get high@
0 likes"I was at work cooking food for everyone in the World, Pealing my scabs off my neck with my special stabby 'Crocodile Dundee Knife', when I slipped and murdered someone, first degree by the way, by accident on purpose! But, it wasn't me ... promise"
0 likesFor anyone curious, Lee Rodarte was sentenced to 40 years in prison with credit for the time served. He will be out when he is 70.
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Everyone posting the same comment. The oldest one I've seen giving this same update was from several months.
0 likesHe had a way with women. So, why kill one that rejected you??? You’re young. Move on. Idiot. Feel so sorry for her and her family.
1 likeNew tactic: Beg for confession
1 likeI can't feel sorry for this guy.. I do feel sorry for lobsters getting boiled or deer getting shot though.
1 likeWe all need more JCS!!!
0 likesI don't like how emotional that one detective got.
0 likesScared to lose a job… not scared enough to take a life… where you’ll not only lose your job… but also your life in jail
2 likesHe's calling himself stupid. Stupid is runni a red light.
5 likesHe's evil.
I bet she was the one who said they were moving too fast, not him.
0 likesI wonder how the trial went...
0 likesThose are what my everyday emotions look like!
0 likesAt 6:00, "I want my lawyer", would have saved him possibly
3 likeshe really killed a girl over his job at bonefish grill lmao
4 likesWhen he says what's wrong with you.sin nature.not one of us is immune.
0 likeshe got 40 years. basically life
0 likesThis mans voice is heavenly
0 likesso after he confessed to what he did the only thing he cares about is that he had to “go places in life” he didn’t care that he cold blood killed and burnt a poor young woman. what the fuck.
2 likesall these vids share one common aspect. While nice/good people get erased the *&^%^ stays on this planet and just grow in bigger quantities of our society every single day. Sad as can be
0 likesYou should never hurt a girl
1 likeJesus I would have asked for the lawyer when misses start going on holy fuck that was annoying.
0 likesThis dude killed her over a job at Bone Fish.
0 likesThat woman cop really bugs my nerves I just hate how it's really a act but it should not be
0 likesthe legend returns.
0 likesMy condolences to Savanah and her family. I hope she is at peace.
17 likesSo anyone know, what did he get in the end?!
0 likesParanoid on Heroin? Lol only time you might be Paranoid on heroin is if you are on heroin (i guess) and the cops are behind you and you got more heroin in the car.
0 likesThe most disturbing part for me is the "fucking savannah" he killed her and now it sounds like he is blaming her for what has happened.
3 likesThis is why I never gossip at work. I don’t relay what others tell me. Savannah would still be alive today if her co worker/s hadn’t told Lee that she was going to report him. That’s on that’s person/s conscious. May Savannah rest in peace.
1 likeTop tip if you kidnap someone use spell checker!
0 likesThe last part was satisfying af
0 likesJCS: And we can see that other detective is using her phone - what a coincidence! now we will talk about our sponsor horrible mobile game!
0 likesThe confession can be seen here now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudPVoO0kjU&t=9780s
0 likesIs the female cop just learning or why is she just continuing to brood in the corner the whole time?
0 likesWho else is gonna absolutely destroy the investigators whenever you get pulled in to the interrogation room for murder thanks to JCS Criminal Psychology videos?
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1. Wtf, Don’t murder anyone
0 likes2. “ I want to talk to my lawyer” is all you need to say. Don’t do anything else.
@M A I believe ya might’ve missed the joke there, brother
0 likesRodarte, more like ROBARTE, amirite?
0 likes... I'll see myself out
24:12 "One day when you have kids"
1 likeThat ain't happening
Serial killers watching this thinking I now know what to do when being interrogated
0 likes12:15 "A dozen red flags?? Thank you! I love them!"
0 likesHe got 40 years.
0 likesShe’s so annoying i would have lied even if i planned on telling the truth at first lol
0 likesLadies and gentlemen.. she got him.
0 likesI don’t believe this and I don’t think the parents should’ve either cuz the text message is all wrong you can tell somebody else is typing it
0 likesThis guy is popular with girls?? What the hell is wrong with the world?
2 likes0:54
0 likesYEP. Totally believe you.
How stupid did this guy think everyone was when he sent those obviously fake texts?
1 likeI don't see how that female cop can be effective by begging please. Unless they confess just to shut her up.
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Guilt. He wasn't buckling over pressure of the third party, but pressure of something you can't ignore is worse.
0 likesbonefish grill is hella expensive but their bang bang shrimp is hella good
6 likesNo cuz why is there more backlash towards the female investigator as opposed to the murderer who killed a young woman???
0 likes34:04 Did I just hear him correctly?
0 likeswell that explains the scabs in my french onion soup
0 likesHe’s the worst liar
0 likesHe said his ass was going to get killed in jail, he wasn't kidding. Bubba is waiting for his man wife to show up!
0 likesPrison just got a new Head Chef!
0 likesWow she kicked heroin in 4 days? Hahaha
0 likeslmao Lee with the non-slips on
0 likesThis girl is kinda hard to watch. It's giving me ptsd flashbacks from past relationships
0 likesI’m sorry but it was so fucking satisfying at the end when he whimpered like a beat dog: “mom…. I am gonna die in jail QQ”.
0 likesThey need Sipowicz.
0 likesI see a lot of people trashing the female detective but from what I watched, it seemed like she was the catalyst to getting the confession. She seemed to know what would work and appealing to his emotions did start the moment where he went from denial to silence and finally, confession.
50 likesyou don’t realize how guilty people look and sound until this guy points it out then everything just comes so clear to you. this guys BEAMS GUILTY
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I mean maybe he was guilty. But he def showed signs of regret and humanity at the end.
2 likes@Jim South exaclty, the 5 minutes of rambling after being asked a simple question just give it away immediately if you know what your looking for.
4 likesLiterally 😂😂
0 likes@Jim South We actually are, and I'm willing to somewhat agree on that. But it's not a good idea to always depend on it. You shouldn't see body language as signs of 'deceit' but rather signs of 'anxiety' or 'stress'.
2 likesBecause the person could simply be anxious about the interrogation, and if you interpret their signs of stress as immediate signs of 'deceit'. You won't uncover the actual truth.
3 likes@Monitice exactly. People see crossing your arms or looking nervous as a sign of guilt. It could actually mean anything depending on the person and what they have been through.
2 likes@A very interesting pineapple Glad you agree.
0 likes@K Kk Yeah... no. I'm willing to bet if someone took the entire video, and changed the context on how it's presented. And some bs like "this is how awful false confessions can be to people.". You'd be one of the folk to jump the gun and think the guy was coerced into a false confession.
1 likeIt's not actually 'super' obvious, here. You're just pushed into believing it because you already have the answer at the start, which gives you bias already.
@K Kk So? Man could've been simply anxious.
1 likeAre you the same guy that does monsters?
0 likes"Mom, I'm gonna die when I'm in jail..."
1524 likesYeah, maybe don't kill people, Lee.
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it sounded more like he finnaly saw the mistake he made or tthat the drugs he took made him unable to control his anger i dont know im no expert but he was showing remorse
22 likes@MONOXYDE I think it was more he was sad that he got caught. But Idk maybe he did feel remorse.
27 likes@Sawra Dawood Considering he calls himself a piece of shit and says sorry directly to Savannah i think he does feel remorse. or maybe I just want to think that because I always try to see the good in people. But that is something only Lee knows himself
21 likesBro imagine how distraught his mom must have been, especially after watching the scene after the interrogation, so fucking sad to think about
3 likes@MONOXYDE he only cared when he got caught , cared for himself .
16 likesToo late!
0 likes@Ronan Reid-Chevrette his mom is dead. he was talking to her "spiritually", like some people do with their dead parents or friends, siblings, etc.
1 likeMommy HELP ME!
0 likesDon't get caught, Lee.
0 likes@Royalgamer7 nah he’s scared of going to jail and is really only sorry he killed her cus he ruined his own life over something probably petty like an argument
3 likes@Bryan ok, you can think what you want, but you don't know if that is true unless you can actually read his thoughts (which you can't)
0 likes@Royalgamer7 you know his actions and you heard the lack of remorse in him trying to cover his tracks until it was too late
0 likes@Bryan people can change i know that first hand. Im not saying he shouldn't be punished and I also don't say that I know he thinks that way now. I'm just saying you are not him so you don't know what he thinks/thought. And as long as we can't prove either you shouldn't take it as definitely true or false. But I CHOOSE for MYSELF to believe in the good. You can think otherwise. You can call me stupid for that but unless you show me prove you can't tell me you are right and i am wrong
0 likes@Royalgamer7 Did you even see the video? My guy just spent the last 40 mins or so making up lies being real cool about it and only started breaking down after the confession was out. Honestly if i was in his shoes and i snapped somebody's neck that shit would haunt me day and night.
1 like"He only cared about not getting caught". That shit's getting old. If it's a case like Jeffrey Dahmer's of course, he didn't feel a thing. But that's different.
2 likesSomebody convicted of murder is not the same as a serial killer. There are people who genuinely feel remorse and change their lives for the better, pursue a religious lifestyle even in prison (I know it's rare) etc.
You really seem to be unable to comprehend the complexity between human emotions-actions. Literally undsr every comment section there's a comment of someone like you, who only sees the world in black and white.
@Kostas Edison he literally only cares that he got caught. That's the whole reason he killed her. He doesn't give a crap about her, and she was threatening to have him fired and stuff.
1 likeOr maybe don’t use your car next time
0 likes@Royalgamer7 as much as I would like to agree with you, everyone might start good but they end up bad, also remember he knows he is being recorded, I'm sure he thought about it, so he can be more human to people aka jury.
0 likesself defense... fucking lawyers are really slick... they are supposed to defend on the best interest of the client client, sure. But it's supposed to be based on the truth. But no... they review the evidence and just look for the one sliver of an angle that could cut the mustard on the slightest reasonable doubt and just go with that. Just look at him! That girl was slamming the car door in order to try and kill him? Is that the argument? It's just absurd!
0 likesthe conviction that the female detective spoke about her daughter really hit home. the balance of calm and emotional aggression between these two detectives is really great. they keep switching off on the roles.
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I'm surprised they made him talk. The interrogation was pretty vague in my opinion. But i'm sure they did their best.
2 likesUahh there's a missing middle part of the video ? The most important part? Those cops probably did something illegal
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@Justin I mean I'm glad he is in jail but naw B .I a dark bodied man in america am not down with police misconduct or brutality.
0 likesIs it just me who gets second hand embarrassment when these suspects get caught in a lie? It makes me cringe because these detectives already know the truth and they’re just waiting on you to confess 😬😂
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Yeah, I feel really awkward. So weird. Happens with tv shows as well and I will blush when people get caught out in dramas.
3 likesYou know...you know...um..you know...um um you know...
2 likesYes and I hate that I even feel embarrassment for a murderer it bugggggs me hahaha like he deserves al the embarrassment
0 likesHere we see the female detective use the interrogation tactic known as “PLEASE”
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Right?.. She's terrible
493 likes@tim trim except it worked hmmm
546 likesI was waiting for the: "pretty please with a cherry on top"
229 likes@catcandiez not because she begged him, that's for sure.
205 likes@catcandiez Not because of that!
158 likesBeing hysterical never helps.
Best comment on YouTube. Totally underrated
29 likesOnce the female lowered her voice he admitted to taking her home
127 likesShe probably wanted to be actress but the only job where her acting was sufficient was detective.
108 likesLol, I noticed that too. She was a bit silly.
67 likesAround 30:15, I wonder if the detective is begging and pleading, saying “I know you’re not evil” to possibly trigger the suspect by reminding him of the victim’s pleas before he killed her. If she was, it’s pretty brilliant. Bring him back to that moment where he took another human being’s life, bringing his guilt and emotions to a peak where he may just break down and confess.
410 likesIt is just ridiculous and provocative @H R
4 likes@rosaaa putony it was effective🤷♂️ she got the confession. She’s the expert, not you, don’t criticize something you don’t know much about.
381 likesShe was appealing to his humanity. Hard to do if you show no emotion.
126 likesright i almost thought she was getting emotional
19 likesIt worked.
28 likesFemale detective was totally unprofessional. Embarrassment to women.
39 likesShe was playing a role and appealing to him as a woman. She and the other officer decided on their tactics beforehand. I'm sure she's actually tough af.
226 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 hilarious.
1 likeI came to the comments for this reason, shes so irritating
19 likesBy pleading to Lee she gave him power and the begging him was very cringe and seemed like a complete act. I'd just get annoyed at it and close up then ask for a lawyer.
19 likesIf you lawyer up you lawyer up. Not like you won by not falling for her act or something.
2 likesIt worked tho lol and he felt terrible by the end
28 likes@♡ Cameo ♡ if it works, and it aint female, then its not stupid!
26 likes- some women hater-lite
They didn’t give that NPC very many lines.
5 likes@H R Damn, you're right it totally was. Especially when you consider the interrogation took place the same time of day as the crime.
18 likes@tim trim he confessed. Not so terrible after all.
26 likesany simp falls for this amazing tactic made by this powerful woman
7 likes@𝕶 𝕹 𝕺 𝕿 𝕿 𝖄 𝕭 𝖀 𝕯 𝕾 na.. begging isn't an interrogation tactic.
5 likes@𝕶 𝕹 𝕺 𝕿 𝕿 𝖄 𝕭 𝖀 𝕯 𝕾 PLEASE LEE... PLEASE TELL US.. PLEEEEEEASE?
6 likes@tim trim ok buddy. No need to reply to me twice to argue your point.
19 likesYea that was surprisingly irritating
2 likes@H R lol it wasn't because of the begging. Suspect clearly knew he was cornered with the statement he provided and the reveal that they have actual evidence of the lady not leaving her car
1 likeWay to emotional. Disgusting.
1 likeI mean, it's said right before this segment that they would have rehearsed this so uhhh
27 likesYeah, she was playing directly to an emotional response.
We were always told it's the magic word.
2 likes@V A She wasn't being hysterical. She was very aware of what she was doing, she was in control and it would have been well practiced between the both interrogators.
46 likes@Karen Hendricks
14 likesSpoken like a true Karen
@Dragoon King Dart replied like someone that should have gotten that GED. Dragoon. 🤦♀️🤣
0 likes@Arx Hobbies how does dude running the YouTube channel know what was "rehearsed"?
0 likesHer contrast with the calm male detective seems like a tactic really. It worked.
18 likesThey planed it all out so she was told to act like that
7 likes@Daisy Dickson you were there?
1 likemade me cringe tbh
1 like😂😂😂
0 likes@tim trim They wouldn’t just go in blind, they rehearse, and they’re both capable of interrogating. She broke him, she did her job
21 likes@Karen Hendricks what? trying to appeal to a suspect's emotions is an "embarrassment to women"? that's wack.
25 likes@Mr. Bubbles that was definitely a big part of it, but interrogation and getting a confession are more complicated than that. Every single thing the interrogators consciously do is to improve the chances that they get a confession. That’s why this interview wasn’t just a few minutes of “we have proof” and him confessing. It was like a half hour of them raising their chances of him confessing, and one of the tactics they chose was the lady interrogator begging and pleading.
18 likes@H R That is a brilliant analysis. Wow, if these detectives had planned to use this tactic to induce a PTSD flashback, that's hardcore.
15 likesThe scary thing is that big corporations use the same types of psychological to get consumers to buy their products. And it's so subtle and powerful, people don't realize they are being manipulated, but it works.
@H R are you on drugs? She belongs in a bikin twerking on instagram or something, not in a serious setting like an interrogation room.
0 likes@H R luckily the male detective was there to set the tone, ask the hard hitting questions, and maintain the serious nature of the conversation. Your female hero might as well have started stripping int he corner and you'd applaud her for her interrogation prowess.
0 likes@JT That’s a very mature take, not closed minded at all, It’s funny the male detective you look at so highly took every cue from the female. She taps his leg and he immediately stops talking so she can jump in. Again, unless you’re an expert in interrogation, don’t criticize someone who is. She sat there patiently saying pretty much nothing for 25 minutes until it was time to give the evidence and play the radical role to push him over the edge.
27 likesIt's great how so many people found her to be oh so "irritating", but don't consider exactly that to be the purpose of her act?! "She's so emotional and unprofessional" - well, that's the point! She's so good at what she does, that she makes even us viewers do anything to shut her up. How much emotional distress and anger, do you think, this will cause in a murderer under investigation?? He probably had a very similar emotional response to her than he did to his victim back when she got him all riled up with her "stupid" emotions and her pleas for her life... 🤷
29 likes@reddancingshoes isn’t it sad how fast people draw conclusions without thinking about it from more than one perspective? Especially as an American, I feel like I’m constantly surrounded by people who have zero ability to think critically.
22 likes@reddancingshoes speak less
0 likes@reddancingshoes Logic has no place here. Also facts. Also reality.
0 likes@tim trim because in case it wasn’t obvious, this guy clearly knows a hell of a lot about the justice system, psychology, and police interrogations.. totally not like his whole channel revolves around analysing interrogations from some of the worst crimes in modern history
6 likes@tim trim common sense my love
2 likesShe's not a good interrogater at all. Let her emotions get in the way of the interigation. U can tell the male officer was trying to reel the it back in every she cried or begged the guy "please" tell me where she is.
1 like@julegon2 😂😁😀😃😂 IKR
0 likes@tim trim 😀😁😃😅I agree😂😃😅😄
0 likesExactly. It was at that point that I came to the chat. I needed to know if anyone else was as annoyed as I was with her "interrogation tactic." It was hard to watch and listen to. Especially when she kept sounding like she was going to cry...ugh...too much!
0 likes@Karen Hendricks 😂😃😁😆
0 likes@rosaaa putony She was being hysterical on purpose, she already knew he killed him, she's literally a professional for gods sakes. I feel like this is very thinly veiled sexism.
19 likesI thought it was a pretty smart move. The more empathy and emotion you express I think is better because sometimes it can trick people into a false sense of security not to mention some people cry when they see others cry. I can't stand to look at somebody when they're upset because I get upset right with them.
12 likes@tim trim it got a grown ass man to cry, pace around the room and feel remorse. i'd say it was effective.
12 likesIt is situational, and here it worked
4 likesI thought she did a wonderful job at making the emotions very heightened to the point that Lee felt panicked, but I guess if you wanna be misogynistic.....
8 likesIt worked didn’t it?
0 likesYou guys are all proving an important point! Co[s are trained to use their strengths, but they are also trained to use other peoples expectations. I guarantee she was taught to use the feminine emotional, I'm a mother with a daughter her age tactic to gain sympathy. These two played him like a fiddle and it worked. I bet she doesn't have a daughter and I bet even she does they are not the same age. In most situation, cops are legally allowed to lie. They can't make promises or threats and they cannot use coercion, not legally anyways, but in most situations they can lie including story telling about their fake daughter and how they are so heartbroken to think this might have been her daughter. The fact that so many of you have accepted her as a hysterical, emotional woman is exactly why she tried and got him to talk. What's more likely, a homicide detective that is just allowed to break down in interviews and get emotional, which would be chaotic and completely unprofessional, or a trained professional that was taught to use calculated feminine emotional pleas just at the right moment to encourage their suspect to talk? She is why you don't talk to cops, because they are trained to extract info and pick apart your lies
14 likesThey do that to show humanity or vulnerability to make the suspect think they’re desperate, and it worked.
7 likes@Cali Charron exactly. They are trained to show humanity every bit as much as they are to bully or lie. It just depends on the tactic they decide on and we heard the moderator describe that they were working him on many occasions
4 likesShe's still in training
0 likes@David_ did it say so in the vid?
2 likesA soft answer turneth away wrath
0 likesThat’s some bad acting on her part....
0 likes@tim trim lmao she made people confess to their crimes and yet you're just sitting there like you know how to interrogate lmao🤣 sit down boy.
5 likes@Enoch Annor thin? very thick. i can’t believe people don’t realize this woman is ACTING for the sake of someone else’s life
3 likes@Karen Hendricks oh now we got a woman who brings other woman down just because she is doing her job, at least she made him confess, not like you who criticizing shit like it is your job
8 likesIkr. Sooooo bad 🙈
0 likes@Karen Hendricks ok miss pick me
2 likes@june june when you are a murder investigator you must be tough and intelligent whether you're a man or a woman.
0 likes@H RI came to the comments to see other people's thoughts of this. Was she being emotional because she was emotional or was she acting?
1 like@Juice definitely acting. She sat there calmly for 25 minutes, only acting emotional when it was most beneficial
7 likes@Britney Danise wow she's doing her job and trying to catch a murderer and u want her to shut up? if u think she's annoying don't watch the damn video
2 likes@H R Props to you for being the most rational comment under this thread and restoring my faith in humanity.
3 likesI thought they went over it before the interrogation
0 likes@ornella sapam that's the point...
0 likesIt's clearly a tactic to put pressure on him for a confession
1 likeAll these experts on getting confessions in the comments section really do be knowing what they talked about. Totally not like she brought him into admitting he brought Savannah to his house.
2 likes@Adham Koura underrated? 3.1k likes lol
0 likesMan the people in these comments literally have no idea how interrogation works
1 like@june june yeah it’s obviously an act, she’s not actually freaking out
1 likeHer favorite Naruto character is SAKURA.
1 like@H R ikr they talk like they know how it works, when she's the expert
2 likes@slovní curling actually, she is an extremely good detective and all of the emotional input was calculated and rehearsed. The sexism on here is amazing
2 likes@Karen Hendricks no, she wasn’t. She acted that way for a reason, and you can see that she was successful too
1 like@TomMakesCoffee you have absolutely no idea what you would do
1 like@tim trim it actually is. There were many calculated reasons for it
1 like@𝕶 𝕹 𝕺 𝕿 𝕿 𝖄 𝕭 𝖀 𝕯 𝕾 yea bcs she said he was caught on camera
0 likes"Please don't make us waste any more of our time!"
0 likesPolice need to make it about them, she's making it all about her.
It is a well known interigation tactic. It obviously worked so those who keep posting negatively obviously need to educate yourselves.
1 like@Karen Hendricks you’re calling her out for being an “embarrassment to women” even though she got the job done, while there is a man who murdered a girl across the desk from her? How do you not see the double standard?
2 likes@Static Gaming it literally worked?? Your comment doesn’t make sense, sit down
2 likesthat shit workt tho. i was also incredulous...i was like nope, not gunna cut it, then apparently he was like ooo okay. she ova deyr!
1 like@H R there u go.
1 like@tim trim lol you really think she's terrible? Did you not listen and watch, the detectives obvious know what they are doing, that is why the women doesn't speak to him for half the interrogation and then all of a sudden sparks an emotion. It's pretty much known, if you want to manipulate people's behavior, you got to target their emotions. By her pleading for him to tell her where Savannah is as well as being emotional about her daughter, she trying to get Lee to feel empathy or at least remorseful and guilt which will lead to him breaking his lying
2 likesI think you people fail to understand what’s actually going on. She wasn’t unprofessional or anything. She’s a detective for a reason.
2 likes@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? it’s common knowledge that, in almost everything, criticizing an expert on a topic something you’re not an expert in is just irresponsible. Look up “Dunning-Kruger Effect.”
2 likesIn general, if an expert is doing something, it’s for a reason. They have experience in the field, and they have learned what works and what doesn’t. When they started, they probably had the same opinion as you, but as they learned what worked and what didn’t work, they changed their opinion.
For instance, I’ve been in the roofing industry for 5 years and I see a lot of people nailing high. Of course if the nail is higher, it has less chance of wind-driven rain reaching it. But a higher nail misses the shingle below the shingle you’re nailing in, it give the wind more leverage on the shingle making it susceptible to wind damage, and it makes blow-through more likely. It’s wrong by every measure and can void your roof warranty and get your roof denied for damage even if a hurricane came through. You can apply the same logic to literally anything whether it be flipping burgers, flipping houses, starting a business, raising a kid, or interrogating a murderer.
@SpaceshipButterfly i didn't think personally that she was being unprofessional. at all... i recognized it as a tactic, just i thought it would be ineffective.
0 likesHi
0 likes@papalusho what do you think police interrogations are supposed to look like? Law and Order SVU? Bad Boys? Criminal Minds? I got news for you, this is not a TV show. That detective isn't there to entertain you or whatever you think she's there for.
3 likesThe tears of a female cannot be underestimated, once we get a tremble in our voice, we turn into some magical all-powerful unicorn
0 likes@rosaaa putony the point is to provoke him lmao
0 likesConsider that the “hysteric” part was planned. The whole job of these people is to get information out of HUMANS. Humans appeal to emotions. Emotions can get information out of people, or at the least, raise the tension.
1 like@Karen Hendricks you don't see the toolbox detectives have at their disposal, and there are reasons that you don't.
0 likes@tim trim lol u dont know that. They did it on purpose to convey emotion and guilt. She played "the mother" and did it well.
0 likes@tim trim it’s called psychology. she’s trying to get through to him emotionally.
0 likesITT: armchair experts
0 likesAt first, I though she was using the "I don't care, I'm getting paid anyway and my phone is WAAAY less boring than this guy" tactic
0 likes@ornella sapam it’s called appealing to someone’s humanity, I know it’s hard because you don’t function with empathy like regular people but try and keep up buddy 😬
0 likes@Adham Koura This comment was rated? By whom? I didn't realize comments had ratings.
0 likesExtra oil in that frying pan boy!!! You’re fried!
0 likesHe’s not sorry that he killed her. He’s sorry that he got caught.
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And he told Savannah he was sorry..in the room..smh
15 likesMaybe both, but yeah, he is definitely sorry that he got caught.
16 likesBingo. I didn't see an ounce of genuine emotion in him.
3 likesPeople loosely post this comment, it’s idiotic, he’s sorry that he put himself in this situation probably thinking about where he could be if he didn’t make that decision. He most likely regrets everything that lead up to that exact moment to him sitting in the room looking at a murder charge.
13 likesI like your profile picture.
3 likesHe is sorry he killed her. Pay attention to the self talk at the end. He realizes he had other options to try to get her to change her mind, and he's mad at himself for not pursuing those options. Yes he's sorry he got caught, but he's also sorry he killed her and put himself in that situation. Not all murderers are monsters. It's dangerous to believe they are.
30 likes@Ganz Bestimmtabsolutely correct
0 likes@Ganz Bestimmt Okay, corrected: No decent human being sees homicide as an option in almost every circumstance except where their or their family/friends lives are in immediate danger. If your hookup girl is blabbing her mouth and about to make you lose your job because you chose to get in a relationship with your employee, homicide as an option doesn't seem to strike my mind
4 likesThat is the most tired statement on YouTube....smmfgdh
0 likesJimmy M True, he also knows they’re listening though & it can help his case in court that he’s remorseful 😂 but yeah I agree, he regrets the whole process in my opinion including killing her
1 like@Pastel You have a very innocent peception of whats "human". Humans have killed each other for all of their existence, whatever the reason may be behind it. If you really beleive its never an option to kill, you are very niieve.
4 likesNo shit??? It’s not like they’re gonna kill someone that they would shed tears over lmfaooooo
0 likes@Danielle Byers So you didn't see him talking to himself alone in the room, completely without filter? I do believe he was sorry he did it AND sorry he got caught.
1 like@f'Azhdwol What I like about that profile pic is that it tells me who are sociopaths.
0 likesThe hysterics from the female investigator are perfect here!!!
79 likesTo a guy like this, she’s sounding like nails on a chalkboard and he won’t last long if she keeps it up!
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It's true women crying is like an IRL debuff
2 likesI wonder if it works to any similar degree on other women
She was making me crazy sounding like a soap opera actress, but I bet you're right. It probably kills you when you're guilty.
3 likesYeah I was thinking the same thing
0 likesIt kinda made me wanna watch her other movies.
5 likesBtw, I'm a woman and it's horrible to listen to her.
MDarina - I wonder if we watched the same interrogation. People acting like she was hysterical and screaming the whole time. She only got emotional in brief moments, but for the most part she was very composed and cornered him based on evidence. Seems like you guys are bringing resentment of other women into the discussion and taking it out on the detective. Remember, she watched Rotarde kill Savannah on camera, and she has a daughter her age. It’s natural that this murder resonated with her emotionally
1 like@Dante Good Who said anything about resentment? I said "It kinda made me wanna watch her other movies" and I added that as a woman it affected me the same way as the previous poster who asked, where did you see resentment? And no one said or implied she was "hysterical and screaming the whole time". You seem to be the one having problems here, not the rest of us (I say "us" because your reply is obviously not just to me).
1 likeBtw, I wouldn't be so quick to assume that she has a daughter that age or at all, detectives say anything in interrogations, it's a role.
Dante Goodman
1 likeI think you misunderstood. I wasn’t coming down on women for our emotions but was making a point that, for a man like Lee Rodarte, who actually committed murder in order to quiet someone, the tactic of the female investigator-exaggerated emotion- was well served. We already know that female emotion is one of his triggers so, whether hers was genuine or purposeful, it did contribute to finally pushing him beyond the brink- to confession.
Dante Goodman
1 likeAlso, you’re maybe assuming, perhaps because she’s a woman, that she’s unable to leave her emotions at the door, before coming into work. Have you considered the possibility her behaviors/actions here may have been scripted improv?
That “to your neck..?” Was deadly- the calm condescending tone in her voice would have stomped me into hell.
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Oh my god I know. Especially the timing of it. She let him juuuust move his train of thought past it and then pulled him back in
78 likesEspecially since she was pretty much silent all before
26 likesWattybangbang he didnt know she was apart of this boss battle too. It was at that moment he realized he was facing not 1, but two level 100 bosses.
28 likesI don’t know how the hell people do stuff like this without considering the consequences.
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Ya I've always wondered that too. You have to know when your done killing someone that's when all the problems begin.
34 likes@Lions fan they genuinely think the police will be like, “where’d she go? oh you don’t know? okay, have a nice life! 🙂”
62 likesAja that's a really good point. In sure a lot of them are thinking they can make up some story to the police thinking they can outsmart them. Then they find out differently lol
7 likesCrkheds
7 likesi think it’s adrenaline, at that moment they don’t really think about the consequences until later
44 likesWe can see that the killing was not planned. So, most likely that it happened on a whim or accidental. The killer may never had thought that he's gonna kill someone.
4 likesAn early life of abuse and poverty might have something to do with it.
6 likesMy understanding of the situation (based on his profile from the information in the video) is that he probably acted out of impulse/fear at the possibility of being fired for fraternising with the staff of the restaurant (the girl perhaps threatened to disclose their relationship to upper management). Clearly, a mentally stable man would never murder a woman and burn her corpse for this but behavioural issues combined with drug abuse further impaired his rational thinking. In the end where he breaks down for being coerced into confessing, he says things like "it's the last time you're gonna wear this chef uniform" and "man you were going places...", implying that maybe he struggled with having a steady job/income in the past and the threat of having that taken away from him made him snap.
14 likesA lot of these crimes are heat of the moment and most likely someone you already know.
3 likesIt’s normally a rash decision in the moment. They let their anger get the better of them and ruin multiple lives forever. Nevertheless they normally have personality disorders like narcissism
1 like@Aja no they don’t, it’s normally a rash decision in the heat of the moment. They’re still normally narcopaths, but most of the people JCS covers and most people in general don’t premeditate the murder
1 like@Dropit beat me to it
0 likesThey often have serious mind issues and don’t possess the ability to think rationally about consequences. Murder is a lot of times a spur of the moment thing. I sometimes feel bad for these people when they get to the interrogation room and actually face the reality of what just happened. They have basically thrown their whole life away and couldn’t see before that this would happen due to their issues.
3 likes@VarthalabauHeir I think this is the best analysis of the situation
1 likeDrugs.
0 likesShort sighted, I guess. In the moment, the ramifications of losing his job outweighed the probability of getting caught...Or, she was pregnant, and he wanted to continue hooking up with random college chicks...
0 likes@VarthalabauHeir However probably true, not a legitimate motive to kill someone...
1 like@Brent Farvors na they know wat they doing cus of adrenaline they dont think of htethe consequences. it hits them later when the rush is over.
2 likes@Brent Farvors I don't think they ever argued it was a legitimate motive, rather that it probably made sense considering the individual's priorities (as far as one can understand from just this video)
0 likes@Brent Farvors I don't think I implied there can be a legitimate motive for killing someone and burning their corpse.
0 likes@VarthalabauHeir Of course their can be...Though, his murder definitely doesn't count as one of them.
0 likesThey don't think they'll get caught
0 likeswow those text messages are cringebadly written xd
0 likes4:32 the doucheness is S T R O N G
It really doesn't take long to ruin your whole life. Imagine he would've just took the chance of being fired, instead of killing that poor girl?
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You never know what possibilities prison holds in store for him.
1 like@Verhoeven1980 lol
1 likeThen he probably would have killed the next girl who didn't give him his own way...
2 likesFrom the Bonefish Grill to the Big House on the hill.
0 likesThis guy should have asked for a lawyer.
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100% of the time no matter if your guilty or Innocent. Never give a statement without a lawyer present.
1 like@D.S.BANDIT That’ll make you look good in court 🤣
0 likesImagine killing someone and deciding to text not only the victim's parents but also the victim's sibling (if he/she had one).
210 likesLiterally one of the most biggest mistakes this guy made.
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I was literally thinking he would have had much better chances of getting away with it if he hadn't made them suspicious so soon.
17 likesYeah there's that, and.......................... forgetting there are cameras everywhere!
20 likesI think the biggest mistake was when he murdered the girl
38 likes@Kindbones hi
1 likeMost big or biggest
1 like@Kindbones ^^. i also htink that was his biggest mistake...second one was to text the parents and so on....he just had to leave her alone and all of this shit wouzld not happen
0 likesI’m sorry but I’ve seen many of these and that chick has got to be worst interviewer ever…. I’m not saying it’s cause she’s a chick but god damn… no tactics at all, just whining. Bro.
2 likesThe scab picking is something you really don't want in a head chef.
476 likesThat and, you know, the murdering.
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yes, that could potentially also be bad for business
18 likesThis is bad for the economy I think
12 likes@Compo Flask Less humans alive=less taxpayers/consumers! Good lord!
10 likesChefs murder all day long. Animals that is
0 likes@Kanye Breast you’re joking..? They’re cooking an animal that has already been killed.
0 likes@Smile More They do kill things. They kill lobsters and crabs. I know they are animals, but still 😂
2 likes@Kanye Breast pretty sure crustaceans are animals
0 likes@ootfan5 So then what's the problem? I was right wasnt I lol. That's what I said to begin with
2 likes@Kanye Breast "I know they arent animals" lolwut
0 likes@Kanye Breast that’s right! Haha I’m sorry. I completely forgot about that. Technically they are animals just like humans but they are basically at the bottom of the food chain.
0 likes@Smile More 😂 Its cool dont worry
0 likesIs it me or are more and more guys treating girls like trash?
1 likeHow did you meet her?
582 likesLee: "It was the best of times.....It was the worst of times...."
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@C R 😂👍
3 likes@C R 😂 brilliant
2 likesI read this comment one minute into this guys response.. the longer he goes on, the harder I’m laughing😭
7 likes@Dahlia Dolores 😂👍 glad to give you a laugh!
6 likesHahaha.... You so silly ! Silly, I say !!!
2 likesThat’s catchy as hell
4 likesHaha! The comments are too funny.
1 likeLMAO!!
2 likesWell, aren't you a smart butterfly😂😂😂
2 likes@Bun Soryneth #Trump2020
0 likesi wonder what the update is, its been a year and a half
0 likesI love how now when I watch interrogation videos I will think “Dossier Technique”, “Ego up”, “Narrative technique”, How and Why Solution” and ALL the other terms I’ve learned from watching your videos! Thank you so much😊❤️
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The Reid technique!
1 likeDetective: How do you know Savannah?
513 likesLee: Well...in the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth...
four hours later
Lee: ...and from man’s rib, God created Eve...
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Lmfao
4 likesI can't😂😂😂
3 likes😁😁😁😁
0 likesIt was a warm summer evening, in Ancient Greece...
6 likesThey instantly knew then he was a lier cause that shit never even happened 🤣
4 likesOnce upon a time looong time ago,far faar away..!
2 likes😅
0 likesLee: It was at that moment that Emperor Frederick Barbarossa fell into the river and effectively ended the German contribution to the crusade...
2 likesOh good work lol👏👏👏👏👏
0 likes@dazhibernian 😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 like😂
0 likesYou a real playboy ain't you?
0 likesDid you assume the gender of the detective?
0 likesCANCELED
The interrogation time being in sync with the clock is so satisfying ngl
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It is in every video it has to be a thing they do on purpose like starting right on the second of the starting of a minute always intervels of 5
32 likesI thought I was the only one to notice that.
5 likesKyle Spratt yeah I’m pretty sure it’s done on purpose. From personal experience, they waited till seconds was at 00 to start, so I just think it’s procedure to do that.
7 likesForeal bro
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Initially I thought I was a tactical mistake to bring that female detective in the room. The fact that LR's mother was addicted to meth while he was a child as well as the mention of his success with the opposite sex made me predict that her emotional way of pleading/reasoning with LR was going to not work very well. I felt he would be well prepared to dismiss her emotional engagement. Although I can't say how effective her strategy was on its own, it clearly wasn't a hindrance. It did not make him withdraw as I thought it would. In the end, his confession to murdering Savannah Gold was from a job well done from both of those detectives. Hearing LR enter a plea of not guilty makes me so thankful that interrogators like this work so hard so scumbags like him can't avoid their comeuppances. Thoughts and prayers to the Gold family.
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I agree with what you first said i thought the way she was getting emotional to him was going to make it to soft and he doesn't seem to have a soft side... It didn't seem professional but aw well
4 likesIt’s very interesting to see all these guys reactions to a woman being present during an interrogation...some men shut down and refuse to talk around a woman figure and some almost seem to lean towards a female detective...very bizarre
5 likes@KREEDofSPADES yes but it was they she went full on pleading was a bit much to start i wasn't sure of but then she must have known that was the right card to play with him
5 likesCarolyn Devins i don’t know but I would assume female detectives if not trained too,will willingly cry and create an emotional connection w the victim or their family,that’s just smart thinking IMO
3 likes@KREEDofSPADES yes i agree.. I was just worried that his guilt and evilness would make him clam up rather than what she was intending to do
1 likeCarolyn Devins - Gotta love the hubris of message board fools, who have convinced themselves they know more than seasoned professionals with high level education and training backing them. Who are you to question her tactics (actually the tactics of the whole team since this was all designed)? Especially when her tactics worked?
5 likes@Dante Good well actually we where agreeing but in another video investigation one male detective was actually going to balls up the confection with his in put and the narrator pointed that out so not every police is perfect at there job 😝
2 likesCarolyn Devins yes I’ve seen that happen before and they’ll actually take the woman out and replace her with another man,idk why or how they decide when the time is for that but hopefully one day 🤞🏽
2 likesThe cop getting emotional was very disconcerting. When imagining an interrogation you’d expect some aggression and lots of questions but a perpetrator isn’t going to see that display of emotion coming. That combined with the juxtaposition between the very different demeanors of the two cops probably made him more unsettled. Good tactic, and it worked.
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i didn't like her ways..guy was doing fine on his own with her on the side applying pressure sometimes but i guess the emotion swap startled his adderalled ass
2 likesi find it interesting when he mentioned his own mother while in distress, but he never thought of savannah's mother when he murdered her child.
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selfishness. only cared about what happened to him and nobody else
29 likesI mean, it sounds like he wasn't really thinking of anything. His impulse control is awful, and clearly he acts in self preservation (hiding the body, lying, pleading innocent), but he doesn't seem evil in the sense that he really desired to hurt someone.
10 likessomone get these detectives a raise, they work together perfectly, the female detective was also super impressive
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I liked how she was able to keep her mouth shut most of the time. A rare trait in females.
0 likesThe cut from the tape that showed him just about to confess to the details of her horrific murder was bone chilling. It sucked to see a human in pain like he was but I feel no sympathy considering how she must have felt more fear and pain at his hands.
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To me, in these circumstances it doesn’t suck at all to see a human in pain like this. I only feel a slight satisfaction seeing this violent murderer in pain like this, and also a remaining feeling of injustice since no other punishment than ‘an eye for an eye’ would feel like true justice to me in this case.
9 likesi think being murdered in the back of someone's car is a little more uncomfortable
7 likesShouldn't rat about your affairs them
0 likesIt is surprisingly distressing to see a guy repeating "I don't know" about a person he murdered, the same way i remember repeating "I don't know" about who broke X when i was a child, and remembering how it felt.
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This episode, on "i can relate to this murderer because i knocked over a vase as a kid"
17 likes@milk testing woman That's actually a sign of relatively high emotional intelligence.
29 likesThe fact that he can accurately distinguish exactly what is going on inside a murderer's head and what emotions he's feeling by using a simple run of the mill average childhood experience.
I get exactly what you're saying bro. its a sort of mental and emotional desperation where you know you're wrong and have nothing else to really say, but you're afraid of both being known as a liar AND committing whatever action you did.
3 likesbut its also sort of reassuring to know that I'll never be in a situation like THIS GUY
It’s a shame that he threw away his prosperous career prospect at the bonefish grill
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from what he described of his background, holding a steady job requiring any level of skill was probably a huge success. unfortunately, he still kept one foot in the old life
69 likes@Kryptonite i mean if Bonefish Grill is a place where scabby junkies speedballing meth and heroin are murdering each other, rising to the level of Manager must be on par with being a Made Man in the Mafia
38 likes@LAVATORR lol some people only know about their small ecosystem, so they'll try to cling to it. evidently, that ignorance can push someone to kill
7 likeshe can cook in the prison
6 likesI heard he makes the best grilled cheese sandwiches in the pen...they have the radiator grill marks and everything
1 like@LAVATORR restaurant employees use drugs more than any other field or job
11 likesWhat? This dude had an awesome career ahead of him....what a life he would of given her.....
1 like@LAVATORR You don't know very much about the restaurant industry do you?
1 like🙄
1 likeRestaurant management makes more money than most people in this thread lol.
4 likesKek everyone acting like theyre making over 100k a year in this section....
4 likesA job is a job, whatever pays the bills.
4 likesIt’s not glamorous, but it’s honest hard work. It’s kind of sad how many people think they’re too special for a career like that. It’s probably why we have millions of people who sit on their fat asses living off the government and purchasing nothing but slave labor goods, rather than work more than 40 hours a week at a thankless profession.
0 likes😂😂
0 likesLol
0 likesNew Tactic: Straight cop, Gay cop
0 likesDetectives: "What's your favorite color?"
2043 likesLee: recites the entire Lord of The Rings movies "And that's why my favorite color is blue"
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😂😂😂😂😂 on god
7 likesadderall was his first mistake
19 likesI spat out my soup 🤣🙄
3 likesBlue is a n ice colour ,,, it definitely looks healthy!
2 likes@Tristan Coleman true haha
0 likesGreen is the color I associate with the movies more. Like hobbiton and the cloaks they all wear. You could argue white, but I only associate that with the end of Return of the king. The only time blue stands out to me is at the battle of helms deep. So if his anchor to the films is that part, I guess I understand where he's coming from
1 like@Grace Rivard I associate green with The Matrix
1 like@4Legacy Or with the late Harry Potter movies ... Everything's so damn dark end green
2 likesAfter watching too many of these interrogation videos, this is how I intend to have any conversation with a detective, no matter what’s happening:
213 likesMe: “I won’t speak to you without a lawyer present.”
Cop: “We’re just gathering some info from you to determine what happened! We’re not even charging you with anything.”
Me: “Just to be safe, I want a lawyer before we sit down to talk.”
Cop: “You only have a right to an attorney if you’re under arrest. Shall we arrest you?”
Me: “Wait — if I’m not under arrest, does that mean I’m free to leave?”
Cop: “Actually, we just really need you to answer some questions first.”
Me: “Am I being detained, or am I free to leave?”
Cop: “Oh. ummm yeah i guess you’re free to leave.”
Me: exits immediately
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To get picked up a day later on an arrest warrant.
21 likes@James Upton to which you reply “I won’t speak to you without a lawyer present.”
36 likes@TheLumberjack1987 Exactly.
11 likesGet out of interrogations with this one simple trick. COPS HATE IT
29 likes@Pure Yt Youtube (WORKING 2021)
15 likesYou might want to take up Steven's tactic from another video. That works quite well also.
3 likes@S KoRona which video & what was the tactic?
1 likewhen in doubt. ask for a coke
7 likes@AJ Genuinely like the coke guy. Id drink one with him.
6 likes@Shoshanna he literally answered all the questions of 2 detectives with "yes" "no" "I don't know", with a straight face and creepy manner for 3 hours. No confession at the end!! So, the tactic worked in his favour.
4 likes@S KoRona I’d still want a lawyer! But yes, saying as little as humanly possible is good.
1 like@Shoshanna that's true.
0 likesI suggest you watch that episode. The guy was so weird.
@S KoRona what was Steven’s full name so I can find the video? Or the name of the video ?
0 likes@Shoshanna the title is "the bizarre case of Stephen McDaniel"
3 likes@S KoRona thanks 🙏🏻
0 likes@Shoshanna you're welcome 😊
0 likesFor those new here wondering what happened:
48 likesLee Rodarte Jr., 31, received his sentence on Thursday (March 11 2021), nearly three years after he was charged with killing Gold, with whom he worked at a Bonefish Grill in Mandarin, Action News Jax reports. Rodarte reached an arrangement with prosecutors in February and pleaded guilty to second-degree murder; in exchange, prosecutors proposed a sentence of 40 years with credit for time served, and the judge agreed.
Shoulda been life
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Thank you. I was going to search for it 👍
3 likesThank you! I was about to look it up.
2 likesI think it's important to remember that people can change. Even murderers.
0 likes@Titus you killed someone and then you just change to be free? is that fair? someone got killed just remember that.
2 likesDeath should be the standard punishment for all felony crime.
0 likesAll I am saying is that it's important to understand someone can change on the inside, therefore I don't want to wish upon them eternity in jail. I'm not insinuating that people should not go to jail and pay the price. But I'm a christian so my outlook on this may be very different from y'all's :)
1 like@cool guy 27 death is too easy, no punishment/rehab (when finishing time in jail)
0 likes@cool guy 27 did you know that petty theft with a prior used to be a felony in California? Get caught stealing a pack of gum in two separate events would be a felony. Death you say?
0 likes@Luna_Belle Yes
0 likes@Quantum Decoherence okay.
0 likesI’ve watched a few interrogations, and I’ve never seen an approach like the one the female detective used, it’s extremely interesting actually. You can see him get uncomfortable almost immediately!
144 likesThe amount of misogyny and gross comments in this comment section is just repulsive
1 likeIt’s hard to feel sorry for him because he doesn’t feel sorry for killing a woman, he only feels sorry for himself. He’s got enough pity for himself, he doesn’t need any of mine.
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6 likesit’s so odd how i feel bad, i don’t want to but i feel the urge to give him a coke
10 likes@Moses The Prophet according to him he grabbed her neck and heard it pop so it wouldn't seem like he was trying to kill her; but we only have one side of "what happened." He does seem to have regret but it's more so that his life is over and as he brought up his mom he isn't the first failure in his family from his point of view and was trying to do better than other family members. Which is exactly why i want the rest of the confession. What we've seen so far only tries to show empathy but if so why did he lie and cremate her? I myself think it's because before he killed her he beat her to a state of near death
11 likesRiley Cyrus lets be honest, if I fought with my GF or wife and that happened, you would call the cops straight away and explain it was a freak event. You’d also be vaguely hopeful they could resuscitate her. People call ambulances for people who are stone cold dead and obviously so. The initial reaction is disbelief. He clearly did something wrong - may not have intended to kill her but he definitely knew it wasn’t an accident
11 likesHe is making a stand-your-ground defense. That's not going to work.
2 likesHe's going to spend the rest of his life in prison.
@Moses The Prophet You don't know the context in his mind, "fucking savanna" could be just a plea of desperation in his irate state of mind, In tears after uttering those words he says "I'm so sorry savanna". And afterwards he even says to himself "Savannah was nice to you".
9 likesIt was a murder of passion, in the moment of the murder he became irate, lost control of himself, afterwards he panicked and tried to save himself. He obviously feels guilt and frustration about his own actions, guilt towards Savannah and frustration that he threw his life away. The whole self defense motive he has now adapted is probably under coaching of his lawyer.
All in all its a damn shame probably 2 people lose their lives over a conflict that was probably trivial at it's core, but that is how most murders go.
@Riley Cyrus also if you rewatch the whole interrogation for each question he was actually just building up the story to why he killed her people who feel guilty typically do this
3 likes@lopendepaddo I disagree, I don't think he was sorry just sorry he got caught. After his "fucking Savannah" he thinks about him being on camera and the sorry to Savannah was all just an act. He has no remorse.
0 likes@Debby Blanchard He didn't know the camera was in there otherwise he wouldn't have made himself so vulnerable with his breakdown.
1 like@Moses The Prophet for a prophet ur not very prophety
0 likes@Riley Cyrus oh he said sorry, hes clear on my list
0 likesImagine if this narrator gets arrested. He is going to go anime on those detectives.
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🤣🤣
4 likesactually made me laugh
5 likesGood one man!
0 likesHe’s going to ask for a lawyer no doubt
28 likesHe’d just request legal council.
14 likeshe'd somehow convince the detectives that they're guilty lol
36 likes@Primethread Yup, there's no trick to it, just shut up and ask for a lawyer. Anything else is shooting yourself in the foot, whether you're innocent or guilty.
13 likesThere’s a video on this channel where a cop/investigator of over 20 years is suspect of a murder, and during questioning even she acted a fool. The narrator makes a point to say that even if you know all the “tricks”, you likely won’t become some mind-judo jedi during an interrogation. Turns out, almost everyone sucks at lying one way or another. So yeah, best thing is to shut up and lawyer up, if you try to defend yourself then it’s potentially bad for you. Even if you are truly innocent, say little and get an attorney.
12 likesBest tactic: feel cop, squat cop
0 likesOne keeps touching on the crotch of the suspect and when he gets out of his seat to avoid being fondled, the other cop steals his seat.
Hah! Good luck sitting down now! Justice is served.
“How long did you know her?”
290 likesLee: "The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error. "
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LMAOO
6 likes@Bigboikilljoy no i obviously typed it all out by hand by sitting and listening to it second by second and even in a perfect recreation of the video even tho im not a native english speaker and it took me 69 hours to complete the comment, please like and subscribe and comment and hit the bell and report and delete this and have a good day
46 likesInvestigator: Ah. 8 months. Very good.
3 likesBad day to take adderall 😂
4 likes@Bigboikilljoy If the joke is that the dude is being evasive, providing an absurdly technical description of something unrelated. The content of what was copied doesn’t matter, the point is that it’s excessive in its detail. It’s not like copying someone else’s comment. Don’t be a dingleberry
6 likes@Christopher Lowery thanks captain obvious
0 likes@Bigboikilljoy did you like, subscribe, comment and hit the bell button?
2 likesAn informative shitpost, nice
0 likesLOL, I haven't seen that one since 1989!
1 likeThat doesn't look good on a resume
0 likesYou mentioned that the segment of him sobbing at the end can be sometimes hard to watch, but thinking of what happened to savannah and watching his whole life fall apart made me glad to watch him sob
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He’s sad for having ben caught, not for taking her life.
12 likes@Ana Uribe He definitely is somewhat sad for taking her life. As you can see he definitely feels remorse. "I'm so sorry Savannah" and "Savannah was a nice girl" are lines where you can notice that he does actually feel bad for taking her life. Also the way he talks and sounds during the interrogation can kind of show that he was at least somewhat troubled because of what he did ( or maybe not, that's just how I feel about it ). And the fact that he was sentenced for second-degree murder, meaning an unplanned, intentional killing (reacting in the heat of the moment when angry), which was most probably, I would say definitely, what happened there. Maybe it's because I am a big empath, but I can see that his usual self wouldn't ever think of killing, but he got angry and acted like an idiot. He got what he deserved, I think he should've gotten more years in jail ( he got 40 ), but I wouldn't say he is a cold-blooded murderer or that he feels no remorse. I hope I don't sound like I'm defending him.
12 likes@lopark I totally agree with you, also, even if it was an accident, he should have gone to the authorities straight away instead of disposing her body in such a gruesome manner and face the consequences.
2 likes@Azzara7 He should've gone to the authorities, but he knew he murdered a person and he wanted to try and at least save himself ( even if you have morals, when you're in a situation where your life is threatened, unless you are suicidal, your first instinct is to do anything that will save your life ). I assume that he wanted to try and burn the body completely to ashes but he didn't know that he can't do that quickly so he disposed of it in a lake instead. Both of these ways of killing are ways with which you can destroy evidence, and that's probably what he wanted to do. If his intention was to dispose of her in a gruesome way he definitely wouldn't do it in these ways. You can see panic in everything he did - he did an awful, disgusting thing, realized he dug his own grave but still had hope that he can get himself out of it and failed.
0 likes“Are you being honest?”
1927 likes“Yes”
“Okay let’s start being honest” xD
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"why are yo you geh"
83 likes"Who says I am geh"
"you are geh"
That's actually brilliant, I caught it, and I'm going to use it when I'm being lied to.
36 likesPerson lies. You ask them if they are being honest about the lie, they answer yes. Then, you switch the question, making it seem like he misunderstood it's intent, while acting as if he answered it the second way when he answered it the first way, by saying ok, so let's be honest, blah blah blah.
Harlem globetrotted.
Earl of Sandwich what did u just say?🤔
21 likes@Pataganja she asked him if he's being honest. And she intentionally makes it sound like she's asking if he has been being honest. So he answers yes, stating that he has been being honest.
11 likesBut, she then switches how she meant it, and takes his yes as meaning he is now claiming he's going to be honest now, ignoring the past tense implication he answered to.
He thought he was affirming his story with a yes. She basically asked him if he's ready NOW to start being honest, making his previous statements seem like lies to her, which he stated yes to, thus affirming without intending, to implicate he was lying.
Mesmerizing like the globetrotters styling on some white guy.
@Lucano Lallo: I think that is what's commonly referred to as "alcohol intoxication".
3 likesEarl of Sandwich indica or Sativa?
8 likes@Lucano Lallo hybrid most likely
6 likes@Michael Knight and now for my grand unification theory of reality. I'm not kidding, get ready....
4 likesMe in a fight with my boyfriend
2 likes@Lucano Lallo hahaha!
0 likesLol
0 likesI woke my girlfriend up laughing hahaha
0 likes@Mine Duck still waiting. I'll hold my breath if it helps
0 likes@Let's Talk About Prepping
0 likesThis is how it is, just by observation. First off, we start existence with two things...something, and nothing. So, 1 and 0.
The Greeks i believe defined zero as a number, as it was hard to do, even though it was used, it needed empirical law, and value...a true conundrum. When they did, they explained also the beginning and existence imo.
The zero (nothing) has no value until it is an effect on a number (something) while simultaneously being the basis for every number. This number paradox, is also reality's. Reality is an always-paradox. In order for something to ever exist, it needs the contrast of nothing, however there is no nothing, until it is created by the effect of something, which needs nothing to be. Its our polar Reality.
What is matter? There isn't an answer, but consider mine, and stay abstract.
Matter isn't moving (although it always is at some scale), no, matter IS movement.
So the actual big bang of this always-paradox, is 0 ÷ 1. The movement is a division, and matter is that movement.
Matter is the separation of something and nothing. It so far is treated as a linear expansion, but in fact it is a polar-expansion. There is polar-volume, infinite inside of everything, at every point. The smaller you go, the faster things are. More on that later.
So this expansion (division of something and nothing, called movement, which is matter) was in all directions, at all points, but also an *inspansion everywhere at all points. This straight line direction of movement will and does conglomerate, but would quickly lead to stasis, so this ex/in-spansion began to curve where it connected, and at all points and all directions this curving to avoid conglomeration led to spin, which leads to sphering, and thusseparation of these movement into units of spheres. This is our physical reality, sphering movements.
The straight line direction of expansion is the electro magnetic force, gravity is this same force curving into a sphere. Gravity is the opposite of expansion, the opposite of movement, however in a reality where all things (movement) refuse to touch, so therefore gravity becomes a capacity of movement, like a battery or coil. This is why more mass, the more potential energy, and the more energy needed to get the curve of gravity straight again.
This expansion therefore expands radially at all points, in and out, repeating pi at all points, with the .14... being the 'great mover' of Aristotle's vision, and the ratios of chemistry and electron coupling creating the intricacies of matter, from the atomic up to the molecular up to us, and down and in.
If you could get an observation in atomic orbit, you would first have to be tiny, and move very fast, but once its speed and size and acceleration is relative to it's environment, so is its observable time. However if this experiment were performed in a lab, with the atomic probe carrying a clock, it would experience relative time, but much much more time would pass on the probes clock, then the labs clock. Both times would be relative to each observer, but more time would pass at the atomic level in the same time of the labs level.
So....and theres more to say that completes this theory, there very well could be a way to have these worlds and events. It could be advanced life in one of the infinite scales of this movement able to travel in and out. It might not even be technology, because matter might be life as well. Something with intent.
There is a divide in Matter, and it quantifies the metaphysical. Puts it right into physics, and thats amazing.
Its this: Life can be defined as "matter with intent". Thus, intent can be quantified, as we have matter with, and matter without, intent.
Consequently, matter with intent is made of matter with no intent. This observation can easily close this separation of the two matters. 'It all' could be a form of life.
Man the second cop is annoying. Shed stress me the fk out.
0 likes*asking about neck wound @21:27
1708 likesDetective: So that was in July?
Suspect: ...yea
he shoulda hit him with:
So why’d July?
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Hehe.
38 likesFirst time I actually laughed out loud at a yt comment.
This one right here has to be the top comment
12 likesOh snap.
3 likesOmg that’s rich 🤑
3 likesFucking hell m8
2 likesi dont get it 😭
3 likes@mia lol 🤣🤣🤣 really??? He said in July.... so why’d July sounds like why did you lie.
6 likes10 out of 10 gets convictions 100% of the time.
2 likes@LARISSA ASSUNÇÃO AIRES MOREIRA you’re welcome!!! 🤣
0 likesGet out 😂
0 likesHahaha savage
0 likesman that is clever
0 likesHaha
0 likesGENIUS!!! LMAO!!! LUV U JOEY B 💗
1 like@mia July ≈ you lie?
1 like12:15 AM (yep!)
6/3/2021
dude, congratulations
1 likeBawhahaha, dad jokes will get 'em!
0 likesMy top comment on YouTube is a dad joke. I have achieved comedy.
1 likeThis cool how skilled these interrogators are. Man, the amount of training they had to take. I cant imagine. Theyre like verbal jedi.
55 likesThe female detective was irritating
1 likeDid he piss himself at the end?
0 likesWhat's crazy to me is how he admits to taking a schedule II without a prescription and the interrogators don't care. If Lee was smart (obviously not), he would've immediately known that the interrogators knew he killed Savannah because they aren't interested in busting him for a misdemeanor.
1 likesucks that YouTube are scamming them
0 likesI can’t be the only one who wishes we had a new video from Jim daily!! This is one of my favorite channels
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there' not enough murders!! oh wait...
2 likesPatreon
3 likes^
2 likesHe’s gotta make quality content not pump out quantity
1 likeEriq NAN quality and quantity on patreon!
0 likesBro said she got that paranoia heroin
0 likesStay a while and listen...
0 likesBro I live next to that bonefish grill I had no idea
0 likesMissed you
2 likesI’ve since read that Lee Rodartes sister was arrested for an unrelated murder as well . Must be a helluva family.
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i just googled it, it also involved a car. sounds like drugs were involved as well. although i don't know how much i believe him about the hard drugs she was doing.
11 likesI hate that I might be related to them
1 like@Efrain Rodarte just because you have the same last name? lots of people share a last name but aren't related. do you live in the same area?
0 likes@Alex Ruland you're right, there's no indication that we are related. But I'm just thinking somewhere up the Pike
1 like@Efrain Rodarte i get it, if i shared the last name with a killer i'd question it too. unless the killers name was like, smith.
0 likesAlex Ruland: I have the same last name as a famous author and I’m still trying to write my first best seller, lol.
1 like@Ray Ray what author? just curious. if you aren't related, don't think talent prolly works like that unfortunately.
1 likeAlex Ruland: I was just carrying on with the joke at hand. But yes, I do share a last name with a famous author as do several million other people with many famous authors. I was being facetious. I’ve been working on my novel for over 30 years now and should be done soon and then I’ll reveal my name, lol. Stay tuned!
0 likesThe man doth protest to much.
0 likesput on a good show for the camera at the end
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