Update for anyone interested: Rodarte received a 40-year prison sentence in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to second-degree murder, according to the State Attorney's Office.

Update for anyone interested: Rodarte received a 40-year prison sentence in exchange for agreeing to plead guilty to second-degree murder, according to the State Attorney's Office.

@A Crazy Sheep Dog I've already answered that argument.

@A Crazy Sheep Dog I've already answered that argument.

@policeMarcus it is pretty complex. I agree America should do better, much better, but what about psychopaths? How do you rehabilitate someone like that? Someone who is incapable of feeling empathy or sympathy for others? A person who is likely to cause pain to others for the thrill of it? What about rapists and serial killers? What about child predators? It’s a very, VERY slippery slope, and most people just want nothing to do with people like that, and for good reason.

@policeMarcus I wish America took mental health and psychology more seriously, and even if he was released, his life is over, he doesn’t have much left. If he is released, he’s going on the streets most likely, and he sure as hell isn’t going to be a playboy by that point. It’s hard to pity the guy, but the prison system in the U.S. is not very effective at the whole “rehabilitation” thing.

That’s all he got was 40 years? That means he’ll be out earlier than that.

That’s all he got was 40 years? That means he’ll be out earlier than that.

Thanks for posting this here. They kinda left us hanging, you would have thought they'd update it in the comments. Thanks again.

Thanks for posting this here. They kinda left us hanging, you would have thought they'd update it in the comments. Thanks again.

Thank you for the update. This people always exaggerate when assuming a sentence time. For 1 murderer that usually doesn't happens. Even though they deserve it.

Thank you for the update. This people always exaggerate when assuming a sentence time. For 1 murderer that usually doesn't happens. Even though they deserve it.

I too would like to be preepair for the Tomb Raidy

I too would like to be preepair for the Tomb Raidy

@policeMarcus no I never claimed that you were my google, my claim is more in the line of this:

Because you have had access to google, and seen the video about a prison in Norway here on YouTube. You try hard to portray yourself as competent.
My conclusion after your response is actually just been reinforced by you. So thank you sir. Well done.

@Ken Olsen I've never served in any prisons, and have never claimed to either.
I don't quite understand any of those arguments as those are points I've aleady taken up.
And why do you ask me the reoffendance rate of murders in america? Couldn't you search that up yourself before posting that comment? I'm not your google.

@Ken Olsen I've never served in any prisons, and have never claimed to either.
I don't quite understand any of those arguments as those are points I've aleady taken up.
And why do you ask me the reoffendance rate of murders in america? Couldn't you search that up yourself before posting that comment? I'm not your google.

@policeMarcus how long time have you served in Norwegian prisons? And which ones, as they indeed are not the same all over. And how many reoffending murderers are there in America? Here in Norway there are actually some of those. Sexual offenders are reoffending in high numbers, probably due to the short sentences and high focus on reintroducing them back in freedom, where they can find victims.<br>And yes I am Norwegian, and yes I base my knowledge on facts and not governmental propaganda.

@policeMarcus how long time have you served in Norwegian prisons? And which ones, as they indeed are not the same all over. And how many reoffending murderers are there in America? Here in Norway there are actually some of those. Sexual offenders are reoffending in high numbers, probably due to the short sentences and high focus on reintroducing them back in freedom, where they can find victims.
And yes I am Norwegian, and yes I base my knowledge on facts and not governmental propaganda.

@policeMarcus youre right about this. But The US prison system is for profit and that 40 (less probly with bail) years is equal to probably hundreds of thousands of dollars of labour for pennies on the dollar. In this case though, if my daughter was brutally murdered for no reason by this guy, id be happy to have him rot. Violent murder is where I am okay with death penalty or never see the light of day. In other cases of violence like assault and whatnot, im all for rehabilitation. And I also don't think people should be imprisoned for drugs. Its a touchy subject. I probably would have agreed with you before I had a daughter, but the thought of someone murdering her so violently and senselessly and disposing of her body like its a piece of trash makes me ill and I would happily see her murderer executed and/or made to suffer.

@policeMarcus What do you mean by unrealistic? I agree that there are HUGE problems with the American justice system, the main one is mandatory minimums for certain drug possession crimes, so a person gets sent to prison for years and years because they were a drug addict, when what they really need is treatment, not punishment. But I think people who commit horrendous, vicious, cold-blooded crimes of violence, especially premeditated murder, deserve harsh punishment. It is the state acting on behalf of the victim, who is no longer alive, and it is the state acting in the interest of public safety, and it is the state acting in the interest of justice.

If you murder somebody in cold blood, with no regard for their right to exist, no regard for the endless pain you will cause to their loved ones, no regard for the law or the rights of another person, I think you deserve to be punished harshly. In general I disagree with the death penalty (except in the most extreme cases like war crimes) but I think murder should be punished by long prison sentences, including life in prison in some cases. It is simply an unacceptable act, and is antithetical to a free, open, fair society. Punishment is often the form that justice takes. It is society's way of saying that this act is so cruel that you do not deserve to be part of a free society.

@policeMarcus English is hard for you isn’t it?

@policeMarcus English is hard for you isn’t it?

@Tyler Ruble I said I didn't get an answer but I didn't either ask for one.

@Tyler Ruble I said I didn't get an answer but I didn't either ask for one.

@policeMarcus Says the guy previously complaining about not getting an answer 👍

@policeMarcus Says the guy previously complaining about not getting an answer 👍

@Tyler Ruble I don't need an answer for anything right now.

@Tyler Ruble I don't need an answer for anything right now.

@JAYDEE As I said, I don't trust american judgement, because it's often unrealistic and overexaggerated.

@JAYDEE As I said, I don't trust american judgement, because it's often unrealistic and overexaggerated.

@policeMarcus What YOU deem appropriate, because you're such an expert with so many decades of experience, unlike actual judges who obviously have no experience and no idea what they're doing. You're more of an expert than judges are, right?

@policeMarcus What YOU deem appropriate, because you're such an expert with so many decades of experience, unlike actual judges who obviously have no experience and no idea what they're doing. You're more of an expert than judges are, right?

@policeMarcus you should probably ask a question if you need an answer. That’s generally how it works

@policeMarcus you should probably ask a question if you need an answer. That’s generally how it works

@Tyler Ruble Doesn't answer my comment, does it?

@Tyler Ruble Doesn't answer my comment, does it?

@policeMarcus I just voted for you for president for that brilliant idea, yet you’re still attempting to make your point. Fine, you can be king. If you keep up the brilliance, maybe someday you can be emperor

@policeMarcus I just voted for you for president for that brilliant idea, yet you’re still attempting to make your point. Fine, you can be king. If you keep up the brilliance, maybe someday you can be emperor

@Tyler RubleYou can't see what could go wrong? Well that's good, because often nothing goes wrong.<br>Remember, Norway barely has any re-offendence rate and they rehab murders, so barely nothing goes wrong in fact.

@Tyler RubleYou can't see what could go wrong? Well that's good, because often nothing goes wrong.
Remember, Norway barely has any re-offendence rate and they rehab murders, so barely nothing goes wrong in fact.

@JAYDEE As I said, my point wasn't either that "all murders get 5 years in norway". But it was what I would deem appropiate, because I don't trust american judgement at all.

@JAYDEE As I said, my point wasn't either that "all murders get 5 years in norway". But it was what I would deem appropiate, because I don't trust american judgement at all.

@policeMarcus No my point was you have no idea how long it would take to rehabilitate Lee Rodarte. And murderers in Norway get 21 years, not 5 years lol.

@policeMarcus No my point was you have no idea how long it would take to rehabilitate Lee Rodarte. And murderers in Norway get 21 years, not 5 years lol.

@JAYDEE With USA's economy, the point was that, yes, in statistics, they have the biggest one. But if you look deeper, their debt is crippling them.

And in my judgement, Lee Rodarte may be rehabbed in 5 years, but for others it may differ depending on situation. Makes sense?

I think you're the one who didn't get the context of every respective comment.

@policeMarcus Dude, in one comment you said the USA has the world's biggest economy, next comment you said USA has a failing economy. Which is it?

Also you say 5 years in a Norwegian prison would be enough to rehabilitate this guy, and later you say that it's a case by case basis and everyone is different and it's up to the experts to work with prisoners and determine when someone is rehabilitated. So....you're an expert on Lee Rodarte even though you've never met him, let alone worked with him towards rehabilitation?

Don't pretend to be smarter than everyone.

@SOLOMEA QUINN the phrase “I could not care less” does not rule out the possibility of caring at all.  For instance, I love you and I care about you.  I love and care about you so much that I could not care less.  It is not possible for me to care less because I’m so in love with you.

P. S. I love you.

@SOLOMEA QUINN the phrase “I could not care less” does not rule out the possibility of caring at all.  For instance, I love you and I care about you.  I love and care about you so much that I could not care less.  It is not possible for me to care less because I’m so in love with you.

P. S. I love you.

@binarybus11000 babe. “ i could care less” means: you actually care.<br>the right way to say only i this manner: I COULD NOT care less

@binarybus11000 babe. “ i could care less” means: you actually care.
the right way to say only i this manner: I COULD NOT care less

@binarybus11000 Lost quite the interest now, I believe my point is clear. But I will still respond to those I see fit.

@binarybus11000 Lost quite the interest now, I believe my point is clear. But I will still respond to those I see fit.

@policeMarcus shit man, 2 months ago when you started and still going.  I’m curious to see how long you can keep this going.

@policeMarcus shit man, 2 months ago when you started and still going.  I’m curious to see how long you can keep this going.

@policeMarcus Norway has a VERY different demographic. You can't compare a tiny little place with ALL white people to what we have in this massive country full of DIFFERENT races and cultures. To attempt a 1:1 comparison is insanity.

@policeMarcus Norway has a VERY different demographic. You can't compare a tiny little place with ALL white people to what we have in this massive country full of DIFFERENT races and cultures. To attempt a 1:1 comparison is insanity.

@Mage_wielder if I may ask, how come you believe they don’t deserve death? Assuming someone killed you for no other reason than because it was convenient for them, do you not think that blatant disregard for human life deserves to be reciprocated with disregard for their life? Especially in this example, as he killed someone because of a disagreement that he ultimately could have settled normally, and that would have had a relatively small effect on his life, if any at all.

@policeMarcus rehabilitation should be saved for people who’s crimes don’t cause lives to be taken or ruined. A stolen loaf of bread can always be baked again, but once you kill someone there’s no bringing them back. Do you really think people who can purposely take an innocent person’s life deserve to eventually be able to enjoy theirs again? If so I’m very curious as to why because at that point I hardly think they have any reason to be treated humanely, golden rule and all that. As for the money side of things, if you can prove without a shadow of a doubt that someone is a murderer, you can spend a nice crisp 0 dollars on them for the rest of their prison stay by having them executed rather than rehabilitating them with an apparent 1/5 chance to kill again anyways. It’s a win-win-win-win, the victim gets their revenge, the killer gets their just deserts, the family doesn’t have to feel the torment that comes with seeing someone who caused you so much pain and loss walk free, and there’s an absolutely 0% chance of them reoffending. Now there of course are reasons someone may have to kill, like if they believe their life is in danger, and people also may kill by accident, which doesn’t deserve such a harsh punishment IMO (it still of course does deserve punishment though). It’s the taking of innocent lives because of relatively trivial reasons, like the one in this video, that does not deserve a second chance. Rehabilitation is a good idea however it should be saved for people who deserve a second chance, and I don’t believe the man in this video is entitled to that chance after what he did.

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@JEANNIE LORENE As I have said before, emotions can't be used in court.

@JEANNIE LORENE As I have said before, emotions can't be used in court.

@yaya That's not what I was refering too, I myself has some standards.

@yaya That's not what I was refering too, I myself has some standards.

@K D An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. That's to black and white of a view, rehabilitation albeit the more expensive and less likely to succeed option should be pursued. If someone killed me I don't think they deserve death everyone should have their chance at redemption.

@K D An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. That's to black and white of a view, rehabilitation albeit the more expensive and less likely to succeed option should be pursued. If someone killed me I don't think they deserve death everyone should have their chance at redemption.

this is gonna sound really messed up but i kinda feel bad for the man...

this is gonna sound really messed up but i kinda feel bad for the man...

it's stupid imo that they can make deals. Leads to all kinds of unjust sentences in both directions. He shouldn't get a reduced sentence just for pleading guilty. He was going to be found guilty anyway so wtf

it's stupid imo that they can make deals. Leads to all kinds of unjust sentences in both directions. He shouldn't get a reduced sentence just for pleading guilty. He was going to be found guilty anyway so wtf

@K D it helps the victim's loved ones?? how'd you feel if you saw the day the person that killed your child was released from prison? some people who accidentally kill someone in a bar fight or through a car accident get longer sentences than 40 years.

@K D it helps the victim's loved ones?? how'd you feel if you saw the day the person that killed your child was released from prison? some people who accidentally kill someone in a bar fight or through a car accident get longer sentences than 40 years.

@K D 40 years is too long for killing another person? alright.

@K D 40 years is too long for killing another person? alright.

@policeMarcus I have to ask about your stats. You said the reoffending rate in Norway is 20%. Is that strictly for violent offenders (ie rapists, murders, etc)? Or is that the general reoffending rate? Because if 1/5 of violent criminals are released back into the public after only a few years then you would inevitably have a higher population reoffending in relation to population size. Also, that wouldn’t discourage others from committing those violent crimes in the first place knowing their sentences will be light. Idk about you, but that sounds like a frightening place for women to live where rapists and murders only get a slap on the wrist. Makes it worth their while to keep offending. Might I add that I do not believe the US prison system is perfect by any means. But clarifying your stats would be helpful in this discussion.

@TrashCrab Not sure why this guy is a troll, he stated his opinion just like I have done. People may have called me stupid in this matter but a troll I've never heard.<br>If tonio is a troll I can't imagine what I am according to your idea.

@TrashCrab Not sure why this guy is a troll, he stated his opinion just like I have done. People may have called me stupid in this matter but a troll I've never heard.
If tonio is a troll I can't imagine what I am according to your idea.

@K. Leo I'm not the one who murdered someone because of their skin color.  Take your hate elsewhere.

@K. Leo I'm not the one who murdered someone because of their skin color.  Take your hate elsewhere.

@TrashCrab the eye for an eye dogshit has no place in our society

@TrashCrab the eye for an eye dogshit has no place in our society

@TrashCrab what about my replies was possibly perceived as troll?<br>you're just doing the "i don't agree with this guy so he must be trolling" strategy

@TrashCrab what about my replies was possibly perceived as troll?
you're just doing the "i don't agree with this guy so he must be trolling" strategy

@Tonio Kettner I got to say you're the best troll I've met in a while.

@Tonio Kettner I got to say you're the best troll I've met in a while.

@They Hold No Quarter if you don't believe in himan rights that's a valid take

@They Hold No Quarter if you don't believe in himan rights that's a valid take

@guy there are countless cases of innocent people executed in the US. can't unexecute someone. but you can undo someone's prison sentence.

@guy there are countless cases of innocent people executed in the US. can't unexecute someone. but you can undo someone's prison sentence.

@Secret ! What race do you hate? Let me guess, anyone not lily white. I bet that's who you hate. "Ahh man hate, hate, hate, hate, hate hate..." - Ice T, The Dave Chappelle Show

@Secret ! What race do you hate? Let me guess, anyone not lily white. I bet that's who you hate. "Ahh man hate, hate, hate, hate, hate hate..." - Ice T, The Dave Chappelle Show

@WillieRants I'd reckon I have learnt the US prison system by this point.

@WillieRants I'd reckon I have learnt the US prison system by this point.

@policeMarcus So what is a suitable sentence in your mind?  Have you ever bothered to learn prison systems of other countries?

@policeMarcus So what is a suitable sentence in your mind?  Have you ever bothered to learn prison systems of other countries?

@policeMarcus I understand what you’re saying but I’d say that would only apply to certain crimes. He literally murdered a woman.. and in this case, I think the victims family should have a say in what’s done to him. I have a feeling it still wouldn’t be a slap on the wrist

@policeMarcus I understand what you’re saying but I’d say that would only apply to certain crimes. He literally murdered a woman.. and in this case, I think the victims family should have a say in what’s done to him. I have a feeling it still wouldn’t be a slap on the wrist

he got only 40 years? he got of way to easy

he got only 40 years? he got of way to easy

It's weird the US has sentences that combine to such big lengths, I feel like you either give a smaller one, or life sentence, because what is the differentating factor otherwise? You either go "hey, this guy is possible to rehabilitate" or "nah, let's keep him away as a danger to society, his presence is more dangerous and rehabilitation is too much of a gamble in his case". But 40 years kinda falls in no-mans land, it shouldn't take this long to rehabilitate anyone if rehabilitation is possible, and if it is not, then why not give a life sentence? I think this guy is definitely rehabilitable though, and any rehibilitation is doable in less time than that.

@Life with Bart No? About the original comment.

@Life with Bart No? About the original comment.

@policeMarcus Are we still talking about Tom Brady here?

@policeMarcus Are we still talking about Tom Brady here?

@binarybus11000 Conversations like this usually last a month, replies have begun to die out.

@binarybus11000 Conversations like this usually last a month, replies have begun to die out.

@policeMarcus your first comment on this thread says “4 Weeks Ago.”  So yeah, it’s been like a month now.  I made a comment 3 weeks ago and just revisited today and I see that you’re still going hard.

@policeMarcus your first comment on this thread says “4 Weeks Ago.”  So yeah, it’s been like a month now.  I made a comment 3 weeks ago and just revisited today and I see that you’re still going hard.

@binarybus11000 I began when the comment said "posted a week ago" I believe, and yes I am.

@binarybus11000 I began when the comment said "posted a week ago" I believe, and yes I am.

@policeMarcus man you still going in about this?  It’s been like a month now.

@policeMarcus man you still going in about this?  It’s been like a month now.

Ah, so he’ll be out when he’s about 75 yrs old. Maybe by that time, he’s hoping, people will be just brains in jars with robot bodies.

Ah, so he’ll be out when he’s about 75 yrs old. Maybe by that time, he’s hoping, people will be just brains in jars with robot bodies.

@Beasley I get it.  But listen to how Brady says “Lets Go” before game time.  Its not the same as on that idiot car ad.

@Beasley I get it.  But listen to how Brady says “Lets Go” before game time.  Its not the same as on that idiot car ad.

@HereIsWisdom 1318 LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@HereIsWisdom 1318 LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@Capnskurk Never stated anything about that case.

@Capnskurk Never stated anything about that case.

@policeMarcus honestly I get it too. I don't want the government murdering people on my behalf. An eye for an eye makes us all blind. But, you know, Merica and all in the comments.

@policeMarcus honestly I get it too. I don't want the government murdering people on my behalf. An eye for an eye makes us all blind. But, you know, Merica and all in the comments.

@policeMarcus it is not even an idea. in some countries is the law. Unfortunately is very difficult of Americans to get it. they are full of fears and have lost (if they ever had) their trust to humans. I mean look their society, it all started with slaves, guns and killings, and it continues till today. i just feel sorry for the one's who will never survive in this wild wild west like the boy on the video.

@shaq: Great question -- Premier League striker.

@shaq: Great question -- Premier League striker.

Thats really sad. He will suicide in the jail :( that’s really cruel

Thats really sad. He will suicide in the jail :( that’s really cruel

@Mike Potter I don't pull money out of my own pockets, that's not how tax works.

@Mike Potter I don't pull money out of my own pockets, that's not how tax works.

@policeMarcus that’s right I’m a patriotic American. Is there a problem with that? Give me a direct answer to my question, have you reached into your snotty pockets and pulled your personal money out to help an inmate? Until you have, you can’t debate on same platform as me. My economics are just fine. I would respond to your other statements if they made sense. Perhaps learn grammar and sentence structure of the people you hate before you criticize them? It makes your argument quite pale.

@TrueCrimeGuru I know what your saying. Something about hurting the defenseless stirs me up. I don’t understand why someone wants to hurt someone.

@TrueCrimeGuru I know what your saying. Something about hurting the defenseless stirs me up. I don’t understand why someone wants to hurt someone.

@Mike Potter That's actually an easy and merciful death. 40 years in prison seems worse but it probably was not second degree murder. He got her in a car and took her off seems premeditated because she was risking his position at work. He gives them motivation immediately like an idiot.

@Mike Potter That's actually an easy and merciful death. 40 years in prison seems worse but it probably was not second degree murder. He got her in a car and took her off seems premeditated because she was risking his position at work. He gives them motivation immediately like an idiot.

The police woman is lying that her little girl is the same age.

The police woman is lying that her little girl is the same age.

So let me get this straight. While his victim can no longer be alive forever.. gone forever
While her family is suffering
You think it's okay for him to still be living free
Ok

So let me get this straight. While his victim can no longer be alive forever.. gone forever
While her family is suffering
You think it's okay for him to still be living free
Ok

@policeMarcus no, I got plenty. You compare an inconsequential, tiny group of people to the predominant nation on the globe. We are a complex machine that welcomes all races, creeds and faiths. Our prison and punitive system is equally complex. And, in fact quite successful in case the correct person encounters it. We finance complete and sophisticated libraries for the inmates. We finance technical schools for the inmates to study and learn during their incarceration time. There are leaders of faith who dedicate their lives to share with the inmates. Here is the big difference, all of the benefits are voluntary. If a criminal desires to sit and rot, so be it. If an inmate wishes to learn and better his or her self, the chance is there. I hired a man who was in jail. Got him out early. Spent money on him. He is out, working and loves the Lord. Have you reached into your personal pocket and brought an inmate out. Okay then. Ya snide smart ass.

@Little Lou And as a side note, I don't mean "ALL" murders, I mean those who are deemed fit and mentally sane to go trough that process.

@Little Lou And as a side note, I don't mean "ALL" murders, I mean those who are deemed fit and mentally sane to go trough that process.

@Little Lou First of all, the rehabilitation takes place while they are in prison, and that is the place where it is supposed to take place too.
Second of all, if someone is rehabilitated, that means they won't re-offend, and that is the whole point.
I think you have no idea what you are talking about as you think being in prison and being rehabilitated are different things and happen in different facilities.

Not enough time tbh but at least he'll be behind bars for a LONG time.

Not enough time tbh but at least he'll be behind bars for a LONG time.

"That was the worst deal in the history of deals, maybe ever!"

"That was the worst deal in the history of deals, maybe ever!"

@policeMarcus lol It's ok. If a person haven't learned the language it's easy to can't differenciate it from other languages from the same language family. It is hard for me to tell which slavic language belongs to which country, too. Before I started learning Spanish, it was hard to differ it from Portugaise and Italian. Ah... I really can't speak with 2-3 words 😅 I meant it is ok and totally understandable ❤

@Nora I'm sorry, can't see difference between Bulgarian and Russian.

@Nora I'm sorry, can't see difference between Bulgarian and Russian.

@policeMarcus Thank you for your kind words! Only to mention in case what you say about Russia was because you had the impression I am from there - I am from a small country in East Europe called Bulgaria. We have very similar language as Russians. We also were a comunist country.
The thing is we were able to survive almost 2 centuries under Byzantines, 5 centuries under Otomans but what really is about to erase us is the corruption of our own people. The impact it has is so huge and the worst cosequence is not even the poverty. It is the change in people.

I'm kidding you not when I tell you I do believe there are whole generations of sociopaths recent years. To explain what I mean (according to the things I have read - I am not a psychologist either) - both psychopaths and sociopaths are incapable or very rarely able to feel empathy towards another live creature. The difference is psychopaths are born this way while sociopaths are created due to the environment they've grown and have lived under.
Last decades created a society with wrong morals, no values and no respect. It is sad how you seeing humans all around you but you rarely see humanity. But if it turns out my country may lose the battle with the evil, I still hope that the world won't and the good will win  ❤

@guy is it better to execute 10 convicted murderers and 1 innocent convict that you later found evidence to clear them for<br>or let 10 convicted murderers serve life in prison and that 1 person gets to live when the truth gets out

@guy is it better to execute 10 convicted murderers and 1 innocent convict that you later found evidence to clear them for
or let 10 convicted murderers serve life in prison and that 1 person gets to live when the truth gets out

@Nora Wow, that is a very special story and it is an example of what justice and police enforcement shouldn't be.

Sadly however, Russia don't have the best reputation when it comes to those matters.
I hope you find a better life elsewhere, you should plan on moving if it were up to me.

I must give it to you, your English is pretty good.

@policeMarcus Ok, thanks for your answer. As to separating paragraphs, you are right. I just get easily swept away especially when I get too much emotionally involved.

I apologise if I sounded too harsh at the beginning. It's not because of Norway system or anything related to USA. It's because I am fed up with the impunity in my own country. So it makes me crave for seeing criminals really paying for their crimes. And here it's not so much about the system but about corruption, laziness and inconcering. Just 2 examples of what I mean:

1. When me and my bf were attacked at our house (a woman holding my throat with her hands and a man who had his knife put next to my bf's stomach) and then our phone stolen, we went to the police station that is just 2 mins away from home. They sent us away saying we should report it on the morning. On the next day we were told to go search for it alone and Inform them if we see some house for 2nd hand items to sell it. When we found it days later (there were also cameras showing them leaving the phone for selling at the house), police told us to buy it from there alone because they don't confiscate items that cost low price. Because we reported the crime, a few days later my bf got ambushed from the back and beaten by the guy who attacked us at home. Police said if he doesn't have witnesses, they can't do anything about it. A year later we received a letter that there won't be a trial because the phone was only partely stolen. It was my 1st time hearing such a noncence and I still believe this was made up and we don't have a law saying that if someone steals from you but don't sell what they stole but give it to a 3d party to sell it, it means it is not fully but partly stollen.

2. The second story is why I stopped reading/watching news from my country. A guy around 25 was at a party under the open sky out of the city. It was organised in fb and he didn't know anyone. Around 2 am he sent a SOS message to his parents with his location and after his phone couldn't be reached out. Police has been informed but they couldn't find him for 2 days. On the 3d day a random guy finds his body around the place he supposed to be and was researched. The man had 8 broken ribs. The police conclusion: it was a suicide 🤷♀ They claim he must have had climbed a tree in order to hang himself but after the branch has broken under his weight and with the falling his ribs must have broken . The guy who found the body claims there hasn't been any loop around the man's neck or a branch. The explaination from the police - the loop must have became loose during the fall, has pullen out from his neck and got lost with the branch somewhere.
There are so so many things like this here. And I am angry and at the same time desperate and feel powerless.

I can continue telling you about brutally attempted murders that are treated as causing "not serious" injuries as a broken spine, broken skull and they literally run a man off 2 times with their car before go out of their vehicle and start beating his head with a pipe. But they were convicted with causing injuries and not a murder attempt.

Or the student who went in the USA embassy for getting a working visa but never got out. His friends waited for him 4 hours before they give up. For some unknown reason the cameras inside stopped working exactly at the moment they supposed to show the boy making his way out of there. It's been years since then and the boy is still missing. Police couldn't do much about it because they don't have right to search the embassy. But they found later a body (remains) nearby of a guy who has been hanged but all of his teeth were broken and missing. The cloths and the shoes weren't the same as the missing boy and it was concluded it is not the same person.

The woman who went to another city to visit her bf was found on the very next day drawned in 20 sm wather. Her bf told that at 2 in the morning she decided to go on a walk alone in the unknown city... It was concluded to be an accident.

Should I even mention what is happening if you try to call ambulance or fire brigade or child protection? I have so many real stories about it as well 😥

I apologise for my long monologue complaining and for my not so good English. I just needed to get this out of my chests.
Stay safe all and let's justice be with you 😔❤

@policeMarcus strange to say but i agree. you could tell that deep down inside he has good morals, and after 40 years of being punished he should come out a changed man and after that he almost deserves to live his last few years on the outside.

@policeMarcus strange to say but i agree. you could tell that deep down inside he has good morals, and after 40 years of being punished he should come out a changed man and after that he almost deserves to live his last few years on the outside.

Thanks for the update. I hope you're legit. I'm not feeling google tonight...

Thanks for the update. I hope you're legit. I'm not feeling google tonight...

@The Beast How have I been comparing murder to other crimes?

@The Beast How have I been comparing murder to other crimes?

@Alucard You can, Goku. And it's happening every day.

@Alucard You can, Goku. And it's happening every day.

@policeMarcus dude how you want to rehab guy who killed smbdy raped fucking butchered it's simple ya can't dude lol i don't get ur point of view

@policeMarcus dude how you want to rehab guy who killed smbdy raped fucking butchered it's simple ya can't dude lol i don't get ur point of view

This should be the top comment, though he's your lookalike.

This should be the top comment, though he's your lookalike.

@policeMarcus and also are you looking at murder cases from Norway or just all of the crimes ?

@policeMarcus and also are you looking at murder cases from Norway or just all of the crimes ?

@policeMarcus I think we agree with each other and the only thing I disagree with it guilty of murder … id love to try why Norway does … but not with murder … no… also I don’t think it’s possible due to the population difference and also the taxation difference… it’s just not possible … you think the rich in the USA would take those taxes ? They run everything unfortunately….

@They Hold No Quarter You're not looking at the fact that the number of prisoners would be reduced if the USA used a restorative justice system as more people would be released according to the new rules. That would also bring down the costs and many facilities could maybe even close due to not needing that high of a capacity anymore.

You can't compare USA's current system with a new one. Plus USA's economy is also astounding if you compare them to Norway.

And what you may have missed is that the United States government is in fact saying "hey let's do what norway does". Because, as also stated before, they have sent multiple advisors and inspectors to Norway to check on how they do it and why they are so successful with their system.

Although I doubt anything will happen due to the arms race with China at the moment, perhaps the USA would change to a more human system in the near future.

@policeMarcus you’re not looking at the population of Norway compared to the US (which is way smaller) and you’re not also looking at the fact that Norway spends around 90k to the US 32,000$ per prisoner…. Norway has around 4,000 prisoners compared to 2.2 million (USA)…

I do understand what you’re trying to say and I would agree and say hey let’s do what Norway is doing and see the results!

But your logistics with it working in Norway can’t compare to the USA … the population is astounding compared to Norway

@They Hold No Quarter It's not, you both have communications officers and psychologists, there is no lying to them.
Wan't proof? Look at Norway, they use this system, and they have very low re-offending rates, proving that they know when someone is rehabilitated and can let them out at that moment.
The system isn't based on questions either, you notice on a person if they stay inside a prison on how they behave when they come in and how they behave when they come out.
And as already stated, it works, and it is effective.

@policeMarcus I understand what you’re saying … the issue is we are human … the “rehabilitation” of someone varies… too many variables … so how do we know when someone is rehabilitated? Cause humans lie not only with their words but with body language as well… if you give the right answers to the questions on how you feel now and how you’re so sorry  “ you’re free” …. It’s too complex brother

@They Hold No Quarter I don't imply all crimes are equal, I understand the weight of murder and the barely noticable weight of stealing bread.
However, your stay in prison shouldn't have any specific time, there shouldn't be a manual or a minimum or maximum per each crime. It should be based per person how long it takes for them to be rehabilitated, and once that process is done then can they leave.
And this isn't a theoretical system, it exists and is much more effective.

One guy on your side on the other hand equaled every crime to death to prevent "re-offendence". I see you guys are running a little desperate.

@policeMarcus you’re implying all crime is equal … it is not in my opinion … stealing a loaf of bread compared to murder is way different … so I agree with jay … life for a life …

@policeMarcus you’re implying all crime is equal … it is not in my opinion … stealing a loaf of bread compared to murder is way different … so I agree with jay … life for a life …

@J K Is it more expensive to keep a criminal in for life or for 10 years? Plus, as stated before, if Norway can cope with the costs then the USA can too. Quit spending so much on the military and the people will get better living standards.

@J K Is it more expensive to keep a criminal in for life or for 10 years? Plus, as stated before, if Norway can cope with the costs then the USA can too. Quit spending so much on the military and the people will get better living standards.

@policeMarcus <br>It’s more expensive to let criminals out on the street.  It’s not the governments job to each people not to murder and steal.

@policeMarcus
It’s more expensive to let criminals out on the street.  It’s not the governments job to each people not to murder and steal.

ayo i was the 1400th like , i disliked to check

ayo i was the 1400th like , i disliked to check

When discussing whether or not this dude got the right sentence, I could care less about the system, Norway’s system, emotion in a trial, or the reoffending rate.  Fuck his rehabilitation.  Savannah doesn’t get hers, neither should he.

When discussing whether or not this dude got the right sentence, I could care less about the system, Norway’s system, emotion in a trial, or the reoffending rate.  Fuck his rehabilitation.  Savannah doesn’t get hers, neither should he.

@policeMarcus Well, it may have been partially his fault. How you react after things go wrong, especially if you have been trained, like most truck drivers are, could make it negligent homicide. But still, no matter what, the sentence is unjust comparatively.

@policeMarcus Well, it may have been partially his fault. How you react after things go wrong, especially if you have been trained, like most truck drivers are, could make it negligent homicide. But still, no matter what, the sentence is unjust comparatively.

@Joe Baxter How the hell did he even get sentenced? It wasn't his fault?

@Joe Baxter How the hell did he even get sentenced? It wasn't his fault?

And a truck driver with runaway brakes in Colorado got 110 years. This PoS killed a girl in cold blood and gets 40.

And a truck driver with runaway brakes in Colorado got 110 years. This PoS killed a girl in cold blood and gets 40.

@guy I don't even live in Norway my "guy".

@guy I don't even live in Norway my "guy".

@policeMarcus Sounds like denial to me, but enjoy your Country you can have it. But I'm sure you will be calling on us when you get invaded. A deluded people are usually content to let others defend them because, you know, that won't happen. I would never set foot in Norway because its illegal to defend your family there. But again, its best to believe one would never need to. Cheers

@guy Well it looks like Norway is more functional than the USA, so it might be the opposite effects.

@guy Well it looks like Norway is more functional than the USA, so it might be the opposite effects.

@policeMarcus Obviously not. I may be wrong but it appears that you were advocating for leniency for someone who has been convicted of a violent Murder. In my opinion that is an insult to the family and to the individuals that make up society. <br>It would be unjust and humans have a need for Justice. Only a dysfunctional society does not provide for the need for Justice and Just Desserts.

@policeMarcus Obviously not. I may be wrong but it appears that you were advocating for leniency for someone who has been convicted of a violent Murder. In my opinion that is an insult to the family and to the individuals that make up society.
It would be unjust and humans have a need for Justice. Only a dysfunctional society does not provide for the need for Justice and Just Desserts.

@guy I'm comparing the two systems as a whole, you cannot execute everyone for any crime can you?

@guy I'm comparing the two systems as a whole, you cannot execute everyone for any crime can you?

@policeMarcus  Execution= 0% re-offending rate.<br>It's called Justice. Or Just Desserts. Also called Deterrent. Also called Civilization.

@policeMarcus  Execution= 0% re-offending rate.
It's called Justice. Or Just Desserts. Also called Deterrent. Also called Civilization.

@Mike Potter Is that all you got in store for me? Alright then.

@Mike Potter Is that all you got in store for me? Alright then.

@red watch Ask their court and their sentecning program, I made an estimate based on what I have seen and how it works.

@red watch Ask their court and their sentecning program, I made an estimate based on what I have seen and how it works.

@policeMarcus you have no idea what you speak of

@policeMarcus you have no idea what you speak of

@HereIsWisdom 1318 You know people say LETS GOOOO because they're excited in response to what was said? You're looking to far into it lol

@HereIsWisdom 1318 You know people say LETS GOOOO because they're excited in response to what was said? You're looking to far into it lol

Did he say why he did it? The way he was talking in the end made it look like it was crime of passion, or like he was on drugs or something, and getting rid of the body was more of a panic thing. Or did he stick with the self defense reason?

Did he say why he did it? The way he was talking in the end made it look like it was crime of passion, or like he was on drugs or something, and getting rid of the body was more of a panic thing. Or did he stick with the self defense reason?

@Mike Potter  It's called a comparison between a failing and succesful system, and if you can't see people are listening to what I have to say.
And yes, someone technically did ask by claiming there was one solution,  but I showed them another more succesful one.
And that beast of yours could become a world champion against crime one day with the right treatment.

@policeMarcus Thank you for an honest answer.

@policeMarcus Thank you for an honest answer.

@red watch To rehabilitate the man, yes.
To fulfill my emotional anger, no.
Although personal emotion shouldn't sway the court.

@red watch To rehabilitate the man, yes.
To fulfill my emotional anger, no.
Although personal emotion shouldn't sway the court.

@Secret ! You didn't mention murder in your original comment sorry.

@Secret ! You didn't mention murder in your original comment sorry.

@policeMarcus Hate crime and murder, thats what they did to James Fields and his wasn't even premeditated.

@policeMarcus Hate crime and murder, thats what they did to James Fields and his wasn't even premeditated.

@Secret ! Hate crime is equal to life in prison? How does that nake sense?

@Secret ! Hate crime is equal to life in prison? How does that nake sense?

@CodexPwnz he won't serve 40 years he will get out earlier then that  with some bs reason.

@CodexPwnz he won't serve 40 years he will get out earlier then that  with some bs reason.

So he could get out in 20 years and wear a chef jacket again that sucks.

So he could get out in 20 years and wear a chef jacket again that sucks.

@Solaire of Astora About 5 years in a Norwegian prison would be enough to rehabilitate him, prepare him, and make him ready for a new life. Meanwhile in the USA you give them 30+ years and what is the outcome? 76.6% re-offending rate, a failing economy, mental illness and abusive guards. No wonder so many tries to escape.

@Mech i hear him, he makes a good point, US system obviously doesnt work too well. I dont agree that this kid should see the light of day for the contradictory answer the guy said himself, that US prisons offer no rehabilitation. So yea, dont let him out. However, if they changed the system, even if it caused one person to be rehabbed, that would save lives and cost less for taxpayers.

@Mech Looks like I'm talking to you and the other 2 guys in the conversation.

@Mech Looks like I'm talking to you and the other 2 guys in the conversation.

@policeMarcus looks like your doing a whole lot of talking to absolutely no one

@policeMarcus looks like your doing a whole lot of talking to absolutely no one

@Mech And that "solution" of yours doesn't seem to work so great does it?
USA reoffending rate: 76.6%
Norway reoffending rate: 20%

Why is there a difference? Because Norway focuses on rehabilitation and restorative justice (prepare the inmate to be released, make prison similiar to the outside life with comfortable rooms, free outdoor space and large windows to the outside) while USA focuses on punishment and makes up sentences based on public relations about a certain convic).

And don't give me the "it's too expensive" bullshit, because USA has the worlds biggest economy (+ with the largest debt too lmao) whilst Norway is on 48th place in the world.

@Mech The fact that I answered the sentence "Scums can't re-offend if they're dead." and not comparing what Lee did to every other crime makes your point invalid.

@Mech The fact that I answered the sentence "Scums can't re-offend if they're dead." and not comparing what Lee did to every other crime makes your point invalid.

@policeMarcus the solution is to take the lives of people who have taken the lives of others. The fact you lumped what this person did with just any "crime" is insane

@policeMarcus the solution is to take the lives of people who have taken the lives of others. The fact you lumped what this person did with just any "crime" is insane

@policeMarcus I hope you will never see one of your loved ones be murdered. I wouldn't wish it to my worst enemies.

@policeMarcus I hope you will never see one of your loved ones be murdered. I wouldn't wish it to my worst enemies.

@policeMarcus why. he murdered someone in cold blood

@policeMarcus why. he murdered someone in cold blood

@Daniel O'Brien I think he deserves to be released later in life.

@Daniel O'Brien I think he deserves to be released later in life.

@HereIsWisdom 1318 who the fuck is Tom Brady

@HereIsWisdom 1318 who the fuck is Tom Brady

@HereIsWisdom 1318 Bruh you act as if that is a unique phrase.

@HereIsWisdom 1318 Bruh you act as if that is a unique phrase.

@HereIsWisdom 1318 the point? you brought it up yourself and not a single person other than you  cares

@HereIsWisdom 1318 the point? you brought it up yourself and not a single person other than you  cares

@Andes Mint Yea, i think this comment got attached while transitioning videos, which sometimes happens on my iphone!  Lol

But the point remains, Tom Brady doesnt say “Lets Go” in his pre-game hype up like he does in the stupid commercial.

@Andes Mint Yea, i think this comment got attached while transitioning videos, which sometimes happens on my iphone!  Lol

But the point remains, Tom Brady doesnt say “Lets Go” in his pre-game hype up like he does in the stupid commercial.

@HereIsWisdom 1318 wasnt referencing that but ok

@HereIsWisdom 1318 wasnt referencing that but ok

@Andes Mint That Tom Brady “Lets Go” commercial is stupid.  He doesnt even say “Lets Go” like he normally does.

@Andes Mint That Tom Brady “Lets Go” commercial is stupid.  He doesnt even say “Lets Go” like he normally does.

Thanks for the update! Was looking through the comments to see if anyone updated it! Lol

Thanks for the update! Was looking through the comments to see if anyone updated it! Lol


Detective: How long have you known Savanna?

Lee: My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, a time of peace when the Avatar kept balance between the Water Tribes, Earth Kingdom, Fire Nation, and Air Nomads. But that all changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar mastered all four elements. Only he could stop the ruthless firebenders. But when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years have passed and the Fire Nation is nearing victory in the War. Two years ago, my father and the men of my tribe journeyed to the Earth Kingdom to help fight against the Fire Nation, leaving me and my brother to look after our tribe. Some people believe that the Avatar was never reborn into the Air Nomads, and that the cycle is broken. But I haven't lost hope. I still believe that somehow, the Avatar will return to save the world."


Coming back here to say I found a news broadcast that showed Lee actually ended up at the same prison his SISTER is at, who ALSO was convicted of murder as well.  Their parents must be so proud


I’d never seen a technique like the female detective’s before: an appeal to morality but pled so forcefully, as if Savannah’s own family were there.

And she guessed right. Judging by the back half of the footage, Rodarte was actually somewhat remorseful and could be gotten to that way.


with these videos not really showing much on the victims i find myself weirdly empathizing and it’s weird because i know he obviously deserves whatever consequence he is given but just hearing someone accepting their entire life is over and there destiny is to die in jail really screws with my mind.

@William Cipher No sympathy for this monster. None of his tears illicit sympathy within me. Just regret that we don't do more to make criminals suffer than lock them in jail.

Understandable till a limit. It's only human to empathise but remind yourself he took someone's life and his guilt is because he got caught not that he killed someone

Yeah. As you just hear his story- and he is seeking sympathy and not guilty vibes. Makes sense. And you realize he is a killer.... so your good. Its part of psychology and not abnormal to sympathize with story of who your hearing..... trust

Sympathize with him? Wtf? He murdered, mutilated and burned the body of a young girl and would have happily continued his life if they didn’t catch him. And you’re empathizing with him crying, not because he killed her, but because he got caught? And when he’s wailing, he’s saying ‘fucking Savannah’, basically blaming the victim for his fate? Nah, dude. I’m enjoying seeing him suffer and hope he got much, much worse inside.

@Sport 2k I actually agree, it’s sometimes difficult to link the person to the crime when all you see is them cornered or seeming vulnerable. Plus, I think it’s natural to still have sympathy for someone who’s upset—it can be difficult to suspend that instinct even when you know the person is horrible. It doesn’t mean you don’t have sympathy for the victim or that you won’t feel angry towards the same person later, it’s just a “what’s in front of you” kind of reaction, in my opinion. <br>Personally, the concept of having that psychological weight on you or being imprisoned for life is terrifying, so that resounds very deeply with me—a bit more so than getting murdered—and I think it’s normal for your reaction to match your deepest fears.

@Sport 2k I actually agree, it’s sometimes difficult to link the person to the crime when all you see is them cornered or seeming vulnerable. Plus, I think it’s natural to still have sympathy for someone who’s upset—it can be difficult to suspend that instinct even when you know the person is horrible. It doesn’t mean you don’t have sympathy for the victim or that you won’t feel angry towards the same person later, it’s just a “what’s in front of you” kind of reaction, in my opinion.
Personally, the concept of having that psychological weight on you or being imprisoned for life is terrifying, so that resounds very deeply with me—a bit more so than getting murdered—and I think it’s normal for your reaction to match your deepest fears.


That poor girl fought for her life. She managed to scratch him on his neck and arms, kick the door open 3x and fought so hard that the car visibly shook.

Bruh I can make the car shake just by farting - not a big deal

Bruh I can make the car shake just by farting - not a big deal

@yarnpower what’s that have to do with it lol. So if she was a big girl it would have been better ? Lmfao. ‘Oh he murdered his gf, but she was a whale so she was able to fight back. So it was actually kind of fair. ‘ lol , makes sense.

@Cody Richey no, what video? Where do I find it ?

@Cody Richey no, what video? Where do I find it ?

@ToastyArmor the reason he was caught was the video evidence. The scratches were just a part of it.  Not the reason.

@ToastyArmor the reason he was caught was the video evidence. The scratches were just a part of it.  Not the reason.

Yeah, we all watched the same thing you did, we know what happened. You’re not going to add anything of substance to your comment? Just going to write what you heard the narrator say happened ? Why? What’s the point of that.  Is it fun to do that? Let me try. This guy lee killed her, he said he didn’t know anything about what happened, and then he admitted it.   Okay I see now , Misskay, that was fun! I feel like I added to the whole video watching experience. You might be on to something here , Misskay. Thank you!!!!!!!!!! 🥱🙄

Even if she were high at the time, that little lady was a fighter! She fought long and hard. But sadly, pure evil is stronger. RIP Savannah ❤

@yarnpower Careful there, that’s sexist.

@yarnpower Careful there, that’s sexist.

@drownerofpikmin Formerly"AFKAAF"productions it actually does....  low IQ is correlated with level of criminality in Western cultures and likely others.  It comes with less executive function to forsee consequences and inhibit impulsivity.  More likely to be relatively poor and likely low in social standing with less to lose,  etc.

@Kingof Grim did you get concussions from sports?  It's terrible how many young boys are neurologically damaged this way

If the cars-a-rocken don’t come-a-knocking

If the cars-a-rocken don’t come-a-knocking

@Ethan CR Alright, well, touche on the first point. Now, as for "having some respect", I have plenty. People often forget that this is the internet which is full of trillions of comments on thousands of platforms that as far as I'm concerned just go into the ether. My belief is that if you are too sensitive or unprepared to read every comment, from every lifestyle and background, ethnicity, race, creed, gender you get the point, you shouldn't be here, especially not playing moral police. Ted Bundy was also a human being, let's not get into this.

@Outrun Sedans, especially like the Malibu, are pretty hard to shake like that.

Plus, she had wounds on 80% of her body. It was a pretty horrible fight.

@EightySix Nah, fam. Malibus are on a different build than jeeps. It's pretty easy to rock a large vehicle, but the smaller and closer to the ground they are the harder you gotta be moving to visibly shake it. She fought hard--80% of her body had injuries.

Also, she wasn't "just an annoying druggie." She was a human being. Have some respect.

@vermili0n Sorry, I find this comment so infuriating. We're more aware that we need to live like prey, so I doubt your comment was revolutionary or even a reminder to any of us. We very often do have self defense tools handy... but we deserve to live a life where if we accidentally leave without a fatal weapon, we dont fucking have to die... we shouldnt need to be so concerned that each time we leave home we may need to fend off a murderer.

So I'd like to offer you an edited version of your comment: This is why all you guys shouldnt kill us. Provide your kids with the skills needed to grow up without using violence against any man or woman unless saving a life is involved.

I get what ur trying to say but I can visibly shake a car easily

I get what ur trying to say but I can visibly shake a car easily

@Margarita Magdalena 🇷🇺 but I agree there is an age for a child to leave home..<br>Karl the Marxist didn't believe that.

@Margarita Magdalena 🇷🇺 but I agree there is an age for a child to leave home..
Karl the Marxist didn't believe that.

@Margarita Magdalena 🇷🇺 what is your argument? I see none..

@Margarita Magdalena 🇷🇺 what is your argument? I see none..

@zejd land Said the kid who still lives with his mom 🤣

@zejd land Said the kid who still lives with his mom 🤣

@EightySix IQ has absolutely nothing to do with criminal actions, what are you on?

@EightySix IQ has absolutely nothing to do with criminal actions, what are you on?

@Kingof Grim sure that's your choice but I bet you have somewhere that voice in the back that tells you that you should

@Kingof Grim sure that's your choice but I bet you have somewhere that voice in the back that tells you that you should

@protatoplays games Oprah's "aha" moment...20 years ago!

@protatoplays games Oprah's "aha" moment...20 years ago!

I wanted to say he killed her by accident in a hate filled moment judging by his reaction at the end, but I forgot this detail since it was mentioned so early on in the video. She fought for her life, and she has wounds on 75% of her body. That’s not an accidental “oops I killed her” thing, not that it makes it any better.

@Kingof Grim Thank you for the John Mulaney reference.

@Kingof Grim Thank you for the John Mulaney reference.

@wh3elson cause idk tradition and the common belief of an afterlife. if you saw someone just piss on your grave from wherever you’d be angry right?

Not premeditated huh?  This guy is nothing but a cold blooded killer.  The Courts and juries need to wake up and smell the coffee.

@zejd land to me that sounds like if I don’t stop it won’t make it worse! 😁 Thank you kind sir! I’ll never stop now :)

@zejd land to me that sounds like if I don’t stop it won’t make it worse! 😁 Thank you kind sir! I’ll never stop now :)

@Kingof Grim studies show it helps in the short term but not long term.. so when you eventually will want to stop then your anxiety will get worse.

@zejd land LMAO pls if u really smoked weed before I need to see this bc the way you’re talking about it is the most undercover cop kinda way I’ve seen… since an undercover cop meme.

Studies do show it does not help depression much, however. I am unable to get medication for my illnesses at this point. (Also studies show weed GREATLY reduces anxiety… as well as the entire point of the drug is relaxation. But as always, it effects everyone differently, some get paranoid for example.)

Without weed I would be in a much worse spot than I am now. And with even worse coping mechanisms in an attempt to stop depression.

Also my memory always been destroyed so that ain’t matter much, concussions did way worse to me than weed has

@Kingof Grim I was also tired from the 3 4 grade..
But drugs won't help, I get how weed makes you feel... nothing matters and you feel like a god on it..
But it destroys your memory..(I still have problems with memory and clumsiness)

@Kingof Grim yes I also used weed ... but I don't try to use excuses to keep taking it..
No it doesn't treat your depression or anxiety.. maybe in a short term you will feel a little better BUT IN THE LONG TERM it makes especially anxiety worse..
(Speaking from experience and scientific studies)

@Kingof Grim you should know that marijuana doesn't help with depression but makes it worse...
Countless studies on it..
Not only that but it makes your anxiety worser..

@zejd land you’re frankly just someone who doesn’t understand the world too well and very likely buys into the “war on drugs”

@zejd land LMFAO no… I got depression due to a shit ton of awful events, trauma, and chemical inbalances..
I smoke weed like most people do. It’s not pulling money away from me… on top of it actually helping me treat and tolerate my depression and anxiety.

Also I wish I could blame weed for being tired all the time… unfortunately I have quite literally been tired since 3rd or 4th grade, just about everyday of my life

@zejd land LMFAO no… I got depression due to a shit ton of awful events, trauma, and chemical inbalances..
I smoke weed like most people do. It’s not pulling money away from me… on top of it actually helping me *treat* and tolerate my depression and anxiety.

Also I wish I could blame weed for being tired all the time… unfortunately I have quite literally been tired since 3rd or 4th grade, just about everyday of my life

@Kingof Grim grow up.. you won't reach money if drugs are pulling you down.

@Kingof Grim grow up.. you won't reach money if drugs are pulling you down.

@Kingof Grim why would you search a group that uses drugs??
Not to mention he used hard drugs...
You're one of those people that take drugs and then wonder why they're depressed and tired

@protatoplays games thank you Detective JJ bittenbinder, ur not taking me to any secondary location

@protatoplays games thank you Detective JJ bittenbinder, ur not taking me to any secondary location

I wish she would've screamed too :/ might've caught more attention

I wish she would've screamed too :/ might've caught more attention

If you're ever taking captive always try to fight with everything you have because if they move you to another location you're just about as good as dead

@Time Eternal uuuuh that smells like misogony

@Time Eternal uuuuh that smells like misogony

Feel like I'm missing out on the comments here, what did Superduper say, yall?

Feel like I'm missing out on the comments here, what did Superduper say, yall?

@Time Eternal misogyny stay winning ig ? 😐

@Time Eternal misogyny stay winning ig ? 😐

@Ollie Mann Prob not the best idea but what was the context of dudes comment? It's no longer here ): Simply curious as to what the cringe lord said

It's very important for me to know what Super Duper said that has so many people pissed off in this comment thread

It's very important for me to know what Super Duper said that has so many people pissed off in this comment thread

Ollie Mann what did he say cause I think he deleted it and a lot of comments are saying something about what he said

Ollie Mann what did he say cause I think he deleted it and a lot of comments are saying something about what he said

What a creep he is. She was only 100 pounds, had no chance of fighting back against him.

What a creep he is. She was only 100 pounds, had no chance of fighting back against him.

damian Babiec Wow victim blaming at its finest 😑

damian Babiec Wow victim blaming at its finest 😑

Skinny girls don’t get cake, fat girls don’t get murdered..... much.

Skinny girls don’t get cake, fat girls don’t get murdered..... much.

I know people that shake the car by stepping into it, not trying to downplay her fighting but slightly moving the suspension isn’t impressive.

Blake Walker here is a better question, why should we? The dead don’t care.

Blake Walker here is a better question, why should we? The dead don’t care.

@Cody Richey Oh ok. Yeah it's pretty morbid and graphic but if you found it on the site I found it on, you've likely seen alot more gore than that! Shocking but yeah, 2020!

@EightySix no I found it and it was horrible I didn't know if anyone else has seen it

@EightySix no I found it and it was horrible I didn't know if anyone else has seen it

@Cody Richey You trying to find where to see it? I saw it a few days ago.

@Cody Richey You trying to find where to see it? I saw it a few days ago.

Has anyone seen the video of the guy that committed suicide on Facebook?

Has anyone seen the video of the guy that committed suicide on Facebook?

I mean, my windshield wiper shake my whole Jeep on the high setting. Might've been him kicking the door open as he was strangling her. Anyway, sad story, guy must have a very low IQ to resort to murder over something like an annoying junkie girl. Almost feel bad for him watching him weep like that, knowing he threw his life away, but then you realize he murdered a girl.

I always love when victims' valiant efforts are the main reason why badguys are caught

I always love when victims' valiant efforts are the main reason why badguys are caught

@zejd land So... like... you know this guy or what? Like personally

@zejd land So... like... you know this guy or what? Like personally

@zejd land True but the investigation didn't show that he was an abusive partner. I'm pretty sure the poor woman was taken by surprise.

@Dan Franco he also took heavy drugs.. how did she see her future

@Dan Franco he also took heavy drugs.. how did she see her future

@Blake Walker i mean women have a natural instict for choosing men her failed or she just wanted the money...  there was a reason she wanted to break up.. he probably did abuse her...

@zejd land She was going to break up with him and there wasn't any time he was violent with her while dating so she didn't think he'd hurt her.

@Super Duper That comment is disrespectful as hell to her. Ever been told to respect the dead?

@Super Duper That comment is disrespectful as hell to her. Ever been told to respect the dead?

Ollie Mann Which is so sad that Savannah didn’t make it. She tried so hard and scratched the shit out him. Sealing his fate.

@Olli Rolli did you see the footage quality ? It would be hard to realize something is moving even if the Hulk was break-dancing in front of that shitty camera

@Super Duper she is dead man... not cool you should be ashamed...wauw

@Super Duper she is dead man... not cool you should be ashamed...wauw

What hurts to know is even then :( it wasn't enough

What hurts to know is even then :( it wasn't enough


That female detective is really on it. She is straight up destroying these interrogations. I almost confessed to killing savannah.


Detective: "So how long have you known Savannah?"<br>Lee: "We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones... "

Detective: "So how long have you known Savannah?"
Lee: "We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. I didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones... "


You can do this JCS. You create incredible content. We notice this.

JCS can't keep doing this with YouTube's arbitrary rules.


I went to high school with Savannah Gold at Mandarin high, class of 2011. Never in a million years would I guess Lee would murder her, who I also personally knew. I'm still friends with them on Facebook. Crazy

@Landon Torppey Let me correct myself. I went to HS with savannah and had classes with her. Lee was a popular friend of everyone and was at every party.

Crazy you knew both of them. Did you have a connection to the Bonefish? They are about 10 years apart in age so I feel like Lee's only connection to Savannah was the BoneFishGrill


The detective asked him one question about how he knew her and he literally talked himself into trouble.

@Musical Box Yes because just everyone knows extensively about ADHD medication & it's chemical makeup. For God's sake I've met parents giving the shit to their children without even knowing it's likeness to meth.

@DogeLife No, the video wasn't enough:  The cops didn't even have a body so they needed a confession to prove murder.

To Andrew McG: I agree: Too much talking and trying to impress: A bad platform for this.

@Tom Staunton Adderall is an amphetamine, very similar to methamphetamine but not quite the same. So different you can see a physical difference between the two molecules.

@Shellman that’s the thing, luckily they got the right guy

@DogeLife he was not recognizable on the video

@Jack Trade it would’ve not been enough. You can’t recognize him in the camera picture

I would act so suspicious cause I am naturally talkative

The trouble that he brought upon yourself

Yep, something like 90% of criminals get convicted on their own statements. Good thing they're too stupid to keep their mouth shut and lawyer up or I'd have nothing to watch lol

they had him on video and was the last person to see her. Game over man

@Mia Smith Race sure covers a lot more territory than it used to.

The female officer was so cringe. I know she’s just doing her job, but her acting was so, “soap opera” level bad.

@Faqyur Ma'ama it test the same bc it is the same. adderall is just perscription meth

you have no idea how many people think talking to the police is a good idea. Im a cop, its not, lol.

@bladee_ He's smart in a social aspect, not so much other aspect, and thats what investigators prey on.

It doesn't matter whether he talked or not.<br>Just the cameras alone evidence would be probably enough to convince him.

It doesn't matter whether he talked or not.
Just the cameras alone evidence would be probably enough to convince him.

“Knew her for 8 months... we started hangin out... we did drugs together... yeah i killed her”

Did you or did you not know Dookie Shoes?

So, lemme get this right, they did a couple drugs together?

Yea I kept double tapping cause I was tired of his bull shit, and my thumb got tired

Legend has it he’s still talking about how he knew her.

literally🤣🤣 he ain’t the sharpest tool in the shed. It got funnier and funnier as he told his life story trying to answer a question about a co-worker


God damn it YouTube, I miss this man 😮💨. We love and miss the shit out of your glorious work JCS. I hope we can all find a platform that you can continue on so we can support you more💞

@Erin Wnuk Wow... Seriously??? That's is such BS. Especially since there are multiple channels that have pretty much the EXACT SAME videos as JCS! Thats very upsetting. I wish I could boycott YouTube, but **sigh**, we all know I can't actually stick to that... Thank You for the info though!

@Marta Hardt classic YouTube censorship and unfair algorithm concerning more serious video subjects. Basically since JCS isn't a main news channel or a larger creator, he got the shit end of YouTubes content "rules" on the subject matter of some of his stuff. Not only is this completely unfair to JCS, as his videos weren't anything less than proffesional and genuine, but also just solidifies how much of a mess YouTube is as a corporation and how they aren't made for the little guys anymore.

Yes! When I first discovered JCS I flew through all of the videos in virtually no time at all. I've watched some of these "JCS Inspired" channels, and there are some decent ones, but I miss JCS so badly! <br>Do you know WHY he stopped making/posting videos on YouTube?

Yes! When I first discovered JCS I flew through all of the videos in virtually no time at all. I've watched some of these "JCS Inspired" channels, and there are some decent ones, but I miss JCS so badly!
Do you know WHY he stopped making/posting videos on YouTube?


With the car door being kicks open 3 times and a struggle inside- I I’m surprised no walking by standers witnessed the struggle and tried to help her.

Sadly I'm not. More often than not people won't get involved.


I fully agree, the female did very well the other interigator should NOT EVER interupt her again if she gets going.She analyzed him perfectly. She also gave her colleague ample time to do his thing.


I wish there was more. I just found this channel and it’s so bittersweet. Love the length of videos too. I really enjoy seeing the full picture and not just a sparks notes version of events.