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Emp, you can't keep hinting at a Jerma vs. Star video for like two years and not release it. Come on, everybody wants to see this happen. We need to know what really happened before anyone can say it's over.
Alright this is kinda stupid, but if memory is like this, isnt it possible that when I was doing something important in my life, I actually forgot to wash my hands well after using the bathroom and I had germs all over my hands, even though I remembered washing my hands correctly? Or is it really just not that bad unless I get sick due to how rare it would be?
@average Weezer fan No, First off emp needs money to pay his bills, and most of the time he gets copy striked and demonetized. second, Raycon earbuds are a good product that don't break there promises unlike raid COUGH COUGH. if emp did not have sponsors his content would be significantly worse, due to the lack of funding. And you can just skip the part of the video where he sponsors it. We all gotta eat.
Maybe in the u.s they are not expensive but brands like dickies or fruit of the loom are expensive in europe compared to "cheap" brands. So it could be something with the copyright
I remember the cornucopia from a donut shop I used to go too as a elementary school kid. The wall had some old advertisement art depicting fruit and meat with a cornucopia in the background
One thing I should note: The Berenstain Bears thing isn't simply because of the -Stein suffix being common, it's also because of the fact that several tapes were misprinted to say Berenstein rather than -stain.
@WindowsLogic Productions I’m actually fine with people being sponsored by rayon, but after some actual reviews of those earbuds, it turns out they’re pretty shitty quality.
Nearly every Mandela effect I've ever encountered has been one like this. One which can be dismissed as "poor memory" because it's simply too obscure in our daily lives to be important. And it's not important enough historically to be ingrained in our memory.
Nearly every Mandela Effect seems to be like this, Except for 2. And these 2... relate. Which is something I've never seen in any other Mandela Effect.
The Black Tom explosion of 1916.
Although it does not stand alone in this fact, the Black Tom explosion of 1916 was an event that helped pave the way for the entry of the United States into World War 1. What is the Black Tom explosion? The Black Tom explosions was an event in which Germans destroyed a stockpile of Munitions and Weaponry that was being stored on a New Jersey pier. Inside of that compound was about 100k Pounds of TNT. When it exploded the force was so great It was measured to be as powerful as a Magnitude 5 Earthquake and shattered windows 25 miles away.
The Damage to the Statue of Liberty's Arm
Despite the fact that many people have stated they remember being in the torch, looking out and even being in the torch as late as the day before 9/11. 9/11 itself did not cause the Statue of Liberty's arm to be shutdown. In fact it wasn't shutdown over security concerns at all. The Statue of Liberty's arm has been shutdown ever since July 30th 1916. When the Black Tom Explosion sent debris into several parts of the statue, it was determined travelling up the arm to the torch was too dangerous.
These two, seemingly non-important Mandela effects are absolutely mind boggling.
First, I've never had a 2-part Mandela Effect. Second, this one breaks are the standards of most Mandela Effects: - It's not related to a logo or fictional character. [Yes I know the statue of liberty is technically a fictional character, but I mean in the sense that it's not physically real.] - It's not related to a name or title. - It's not related to innocuous or forgettable events, ideas or items. - It's not related to a tiny insignificant detail
The Statue of Liberty has, is and will continue to be a national landmark, that is visited by people all of the world. World War 1 and 9/11 are both insanely memorable events, whether you were there for them or not. And they're so distant in terms of time periods, mixing the two up is just insane, not to mention the reasons for both explanations are completely different. the 9/11 claim was for security while the historical explanation is for safety following explosion damage. Explosion damage from an event most people seem to have not heard of.
That last part is mostly an assumption, but damn near every person I've asked about this, online or offline, and even those in the field of History, typically have never heard of the Black Tom explosion. Nor do they note it as a major historical event. Despite the fact that it shakes the foundations of many parts of World War 1 and of course the Statue of Liberty. The Black Tom explosions supposedly was a major event which was one of the catalysts that took us into WW1 and with an explosion so strong people in Philadelphia felt it, there's a massive Black out in memory regarding the Black Tom explosion.
This is absolutely insane, and continues to haunt me. As prior to the Black Tom Explosion + Statue of Liberty Torch Mandela Effect combo, I had basically just shoved the Mandela Effect aside as an ape-brain memory thing that our meat sack minds just jumble up and ruin. But this event is both documented well but represented so little, along with the strong memories of people being inside of parts of the Statue of Liberty that had been closed likely since before they were born just cannot be explained away as a memory thing.
Maybe it's a Mandela Effect, or maybe there is something else here I'm not seeing. But either way, this one absolutely blows my mind every time I look into it.
@bbtootall I'm sure your a nice guy but people need money and they will take the easy way out because they don't want to work 12 hours a day with no vacation.
weird thing: fruit of the loom produced the clothes used in the place where i had my workers education as a ldnscaper. not underwear but shirts and t-shirts. well i also saw a cornucopia even though i never saw or heard of fruit of the loom before. im from germany btw.
Interesting talking points discussed about the strangeness of the missing cornucopia. You know, they sound strangely identical to the very same ones I covered in my videos last year...IN FACT several images you displayed are also oddly familiar!..Wonder why that is🤭
@bbtootall I say you're the only one triggered in this comment section and his reply about raking in the dough comment. No one else. Let that sink in for a few minutes. Oh no, you won't! Hahaha typical try hard child on the internet lol
I'm praying you do another video like your how Trump used memes but on biden and how he used massive voter fraud to cheat an election. If you did a video on that I'd be so happy.
Yo Emp. You should make another NASCAR video about the story of Bobby Alison. He lost all of his children and eventually his wife as he went from NASCAR legend to living with his mother to his rebound in life after NASCAR.
Its because in the original logo like the one in the commercials you can see brown parts (either leaves or stems) on each side of the logo, we see the brown and forget the object
You know I’m sick of people thinking that the Mandela effect thing makes sense.... What does make sense is maybe the consideration of time travel there are numerous incidents in movies and culture where something changes but people can somewhat recollect it being a little different.
Hey, I have a argument for Cornucopia Fruit of the Loom; if everyone remembers the exact same cornucopia Drawing, it couldn’t possibly be the Mandela effect!
At 10:08 , Depends on the Pikachu we are talking about. Normal male and female pikachu have no black on their tail. However, If we are talking about the Cosplay forms of pikachu introduced in Pokémon X and Y, that, sadly, probably won’t come back, they do have a bit of black on their tail, however with the Cosplays it’s in the shape of a heart, with the tip pointing toward the body of pikachu.
It was defintely on the packaging, the one part of the product that's discarded immediately after opening the product. Who bought new pairs of underwear and kept the plastic bag it came in? That's why it's different on the clothes compared to how we first remember it. So I guess we'll have to scour the earth for vintage, unopened underwear bundles now.
Guys, Roanoke gaming also remember it with a cornucopia an he's honest about it. And he also finds it "pretty cool". The word "huh" was also used here, which is not used that often but often enough to be used and understood.
As with a lot of other Mandela effects, I too remember it as well. I even have an old bias tape (sewing item) FOTL put out in the 60s.. it doesn't exist there either. My husband is a process engineer for Fruit so I get reminded of this logo discrepancy daily 😁
So now I'm not sure if I actually remember the cornucopia or if watching this video has planted a false memory of the cornucopia but I could have sworn after watching this video that there was one.
@Stabin Cabin I have drawings of long ago with pikachu having a black stripe. With no access to outside drawings and trying to copy it exactly it's odd that I drew a stripe. Because apparently there was never one.
AH so this is what you're doing when you're not giving biology lessons. Honestly, kinda underwhelmed. Normally seeing a teacher outside of class is more exciting.
My dad's girlfriend had a shirt from them with it. That was the first time I saw the brand. I was confused to not see it when I saw this video now I know why
Do you though, or did you just see that image for the first time in a long time because that’s the first image you see on this video and so your mind made you think that’s what it definitely looked like.
I think if it never existed anywhere in the logo then maybe it's because we first hear of the brand as kids and are like "loom?? What's that?" And think well where would fruit be in and think oh that basket thing u see with fruit and vegetables in it that must be what a loom is.
I saw the logo he put up at first, and then as soon as he added the cornucopia I was blown away, wondering how I could've missed such a huge missing detail that I distinctly remembered.
someone proved the company applied for a trademark extension and the document gives a very vivid description of the logo, and that includes the cornucopia. I think I saw it posted on reddit. i think applied for in the 90's maybe...
@TheCat 3 Mandela effect dictates it'd be impossible to give you proof because it wouldn't exist on this timeline. Basically if we crossed into a new timeline, then it never had one here and looking up old clothing will not have it. It is a very insidious glitch. You are meeting two shards and overwriting differences. If you did that to your files they would all move in and any files that swear you were different will have no way of believing you or any attempt at proving it to them them.
@TheCat 3 It was their. The orignal logo had the cornucopia. It changed rather quickly but people want to mind fuck you with this mendela effect. I used to stock fruit of loom shirts in a clothing store back in the early 90s. I seen the tag a thousands of times to know what I saw. This Mendela effect may be real but it made a huge mistake. It may have erased it from reality but not from our brains
I'd say in my personal experience. The Fruit logo was always just the fruits. But I think my memory included the Cornucopia because it was there whenever I got one to color in from kindergarten as some Thanksgiving activity.
Definitely. Cornucopias used to be a ubiquitous Thanksgiving decoration. My mom always put one on the dining table. School decorations always had them. I colored many of those activity sheets in elementary grades.
I think this is the most logical response. I remember the loom, personality. But I also remember seeing fruits and vegetables in looms a lot during Thanksgiving.
Hmm that would also explain why the logo with the stock cornucopia looks exactly what people remember because worksheets would have the stock cornucopia as well.
I was thinking the same too, except I was thinking of store displays, school makes a lot more sense I seem to remember such line art on colored work sheets from elementary school.
There are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association
@G I'm British and we don't celebrate Thanksgiving but I specifically remember The cornucopia. I thought it was a weirdly shaped fruit bowl and I remember asking my dad about it in the car and him telling me it's a cornucopia.
I'm beginning to think this as well. But I don't know. What was the image I saw of a cornucopia that got me to conflate it? I guess cornucopias were just common to see in images back in the 80's and 90's for some reason? They're hardly shown in any sort of images today... it just makes the whole thing that much more mysterious
@SevenFoot Pelican I grew up in the 2000s/2010s though and I was a toddler when the 90s ended so I personally wouldn't remember the 80s/90s I only even started watching 80s/90s media over the past few years but I remember the logo having the cornucopia.
@Postmodern Recycler It makes total sense, however it does not account for all the foreigners like myself who neither learned about thanksgiving in school /kindergarten nor celebrated it, but still vividly remember the horn being there.............
Wait thats true! I've been thinking why fruit of the loom sounds like a familiar brand even tho i've never used them. I've bought some shirts from the flea markets!
Seriously?! I live in the Midwest, and all I've ever associated Fruit of the Loom with is underwear and white undershirts. If I wore a t-shirt with their branding, it would be like...an underwear shirt.
yeah, i'm not from UK but also from Europe and i had couple custom T-Shirts with Froot of the Loom logo... and what is funny i clearly remember cornucopia being there!
As an Australian I have never heard of this company nor seen their logo. As soon as I saw the logo it looked like it was missing something though, it seems too wide.
Exactly, it also seems as if the leaves and fruits should have a purpose or be kept in place by something. Not mentioning how the word loom sort of implies there’s something else other than fruits on the logo.
As you saw when googling cornucopia, there is tons of clip art and stuff showing essentially the exact same layout as the imagined logo. This is where I think the discrepancy comes from. While cornucopias are a generally obscure object, I distinctly remember as a kid learning about Thanksgiving seeing tons of drawings and clip art of them CONSTANTLY at the time. I don't think it's that crazy to think we just ingrained that ensemble of fruit laid out in front of a cornucopia and see the similarly assembled Fruit of the Loom fruit and subconsciously place one behind them in our memory.
I personally remember the logo with it. It feels more natural to me. But I also acknowledge that I'm likely doing what you said elsewhere in the video and creating an amalgamation of childhood experience in my mind. The reason why we also don't place one behind other logos like you showed with the capri suns is because that isn't even the logo for capri sun. It's just the image on the packaging, that changes from pouch to pouch. It hasn't been a consistent thing. Also, the Fruit of the Loom logo is a cartoon while the images on the capri suns are real photos. I think you'd actually be hard pressed finding another product logo with a similar cartoon fruit layout. There probably isn't one, at least a well known one, because it would lean into trademark territory.
There are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association
@Chloé Again, maybe because they saw simplified clip art or something as a kid? And thinking it is called a loom is just because they thought it was there and thought that’s what the brand name was referring to.
@FlashPone Yes but foreigners don't celebrate thanksgiving, i would maybe understand if you said we all sat and colored somthing so it got in our brains but it's such a random object for someone who doesn't celebrate thanksgiving and doesn't speak our language to randomly inject. People have a lot of stories of asking their parents what the "loom" is or thinking the cornucopia was called a loom, loom and cornucopia sound nothing alike. It is very weird that everyone remembers it. Pause at 5:31 the reddit posts, it's what really started to make me realize it can't just be a false memory
@Chloé It’s definitely just a false memory, lol. Our brains are built to create false stories if we can’t fully remember something. Almost nobody remembers their childhood correctly. And kids tend not to focus on small details like every detail of a random logo. So if someone is like “Didn’t this used to look like X?” people will probably not be able to fully remember. There is no evidence of dimension swapping or anything lmao.
@FlashPone Yes but there's also grown adults who remember it too... who were adults back then. And one thing is not focusing on details and another thing is inserting an object that was completely not there. Millions of people remember it, not 100 or 1000 it's very weird
@Chloé Adults are human beings too, and the human memory is notoriously shitty. That’s why eyewitness testimony is not admissible evidence in court. People can misremember stuff that happened hours earlier.
@FlashPone Millions of kids and adult saw the same non existent thing even the same color? If iIcolored it as a kid it was black and white but everyone even remembers the same shade of brown. Foreigners who don't celebrate thankgiving? If I don't know how popular cornucopia clip art is for it to be so widely agreed upon.
@FlashPone People could've "remembered" a normal fruit basket too, but everyone saw a cornucopia. Some people say the tag was their first time even seeing the object and remember thinking "what is that shell looking thing" or asking someone what is that, it's just too specific to be made up by so many people who have never met eachcother. And this is coming from someone who tried to rationalize the monocle on the monopoly guy but this one I can't explain, there's no other popular brands sporting cornucopias for people to get so confused.
@Chloé Like I said, the brain is easily conditioned into having false memories. They could easily THINK they have that memory, but don’t. And people tell other’s the story and others say “Huh, I think I remember that too.” And then suddenly they “remember” it. Personally, I think the look with the cornucopia looks right and is the design I “remember”, but I also acknowledge I’m probably just wrong.
@FlashPone I think over millions it's a reach to blame false memory for the reasons I said but that's my opinion. Besides coloring a cornucopia once in pre-k which is a flawed reason considering grown adults and foreigners, there's no reason so many would recall something so obscure. A fruit basket would make more sense and if the brain wanted to badly to place something behind the fruit there would be some people recalling maybe other objects like a fruit basket but everyone remembers the same obscure object, a cornucopia, going to the right.
@Chloé I never said “coloring one once”. I’m saying seeing a LOT of clip art, images, etc of them. I definitely remember that as a kid. And I don’t think justifying it by saying MILLIONS of people think that so they must be right. There has been how many times in history where whole groups of people thought a certain way that was obviously wrong. Humans are fallible. If one human mind can have a false memory, so can a million. And I don’t even know what a “fruit basket” looks like. That’s such a generic descriptor, while a cornucopia is a specific object.
@FlashPone That's my point fruit baskets are definitely more common than cornucopias only seen once a year, and like the video said I associaite cornucopias with vegetables and fall colors. Why would that be where everyones mind goes? I see bunched up fruit all the time my mind could've just left it alone. A fruit basket is basically like a picnic basket, or what holds fruits at farmers markets. Much more common and much more likely to be imagnied by so many, even a bowl would make more sense. Then there's the problem with foreigners who had never even seen the object. People who distinctly remember asking their parents "what's the shell looking thing on my underwear?". Even the artist in the video who made a parody of the logo on a song, but from decades ago. There's no popular similar logo to this to rationalize such a random association. I can rationalize the monoply guy because there's so many things you can confuse it with but seasonal childhood clipart is not a good enough explanation for me especially with the holes that I mentioned.
I wonder if the Hannaford logo is to blame in some of this. While also lacking a cornucopia, it does have a shape behind the fruits - which by the way, are shaded in a very similar cross-hatch way to the FotL fruits. This may have turned into a cornucopia in some people's minds.
Furthermore, I know that Hannafords will display cornucopias in ads and on displays around Fall time. Perhaps shared childhood memories of shopping for food and clothing, which could realistically have been done on the same day, could have blended the logos and imagery together.
The strangest thing, to me, is that living in Italy I've never associated Fruit of the Loom to underwear, but only to t-shirts, sweatshirts or hoodies. I've nevers seen Fruit of the Loom underwear.
@Gordon Shumway are you trying to be funny :D ? I don't remember any cornucopias, btw. And obviously no, we don't celebrate thanksgiving, but some sort of "harvest celebration" is still celebrated in some rural zones.
I avidly remember the cornucopia and even have a story about it If you care to read
This was around 2006 to 2007ish? I was very young at the time and noticed the cornucopia on a display sign. I recognized the object from thanksgiving. I asked my mom what the brown thing was called on that sign she told me it was a cornucopia. I decided that fruit of the loom was my favorite brand cause it had a unusual object that reminded me of holidays. I asked her what the sign said she said fruit of the loom. I kept saying fruit of the loom over and over so I’d remember my new favorite brand. The theory it’s an off brand would make more sense except for the fact it was on a display sign in Walmart. This is the only Mandela effect I can’t come up with some kind of reason why I created a false memory.
I associated it with the brand so much that I remember shopping a few years ago and noticing its absence. I said to my partner “huh, they trimmed down their logo—modernized it. I miss the cornucopia”
Maybe you mixed up your memories from the past. Memories fade as we age. Maybe you saw something with fruits and a cornucopia and thought it was associated with the fruit of the loom brand. My dad told me that when I was younger, I was sent to boarding school and would cry everyday but I can’t for the life of me recollect these memories
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John R2022-02-23 11:05:20 (edited 2022-02-23 11:06:04 )
@LeonFuego unanswerable question. Having a specific memory about a clothing logo featuring a cornucopia is much less likely to be false than a memory of maybe washing dishes one time
Slowly over time I've come to accept the possibility (not reality) that cornucopias were items that were very popular in the 80's and 90's... you'd see them in a lot of thanksgiving-related images.. and Fruit of the Loom is the only widespread logo in the world with a collection of fruit (plus, older variations of the logo had large brown leaves on the logo which we also could have short-circuited to be a cornucopia). so our mind automatically pairs it with cornucopia's.. but it's such a damn mystery... I think the human mind plays this trick because the cornoopia is such a strange, unconventional and rare item to see - so it's difficult to remember where we first saw it, since it's shown so rarely in images that we automatically pair it with a well known corporate logo.
i have the same thing with crisp/chip flavours in the UK, alot of people here think the colours of 2 flavours switched - and whereas there is a logical explanation i could swear on my life i remember being about 7 and my friend having a bag of them at school and i tried them for the first time and made a mental note i didnt like the "blue" flavour he gave me - which now is (and always has been) the green flavour.
@Snacks how do you explain then me not seeing it on the logo, wayyy before this whole “Mandela effect” thing was ever even thought of & wondering where the cornucopia was?
I remember it too! It’s how I learned what the word cornucopia means, because I wanted to know what the brown basket was called. This was also in the early 2000s.
@J.J. McCullough Yeah but Thanksgiving generally isn't one of them here in Australia (at least, not in my experience). We definitely get a lot of Halloween influence tho (and more recently 'Black Friday' stuff, which can actually be seen as quite insensitive here as "Black Friday" is a term used to refer to a terrible bush fire disaster we had here in the late 30s).
@Hedera True but I mean despite being an uncommon item it’s not impossible for the idea of a fruit pile and a cornucopia to be seen over there too. For example the Coat of Arms of Victoria, Australia has a cornucopia in it so it’s not like people don’t know about them there or anything lol
@SporkNotFork Lol, really??? Ngl, checking it up just now had been the only time I've ever actually seen the Victoria coat of arms, and I've lived in the state most of my life 'xD lmao
I just found this one out. Yeah it definitely had a cornucopia. I remember as a kid wondering what the hell that weird shaped basket was on multiple occasions. Man some of these really freak me out.
the thing too is. Im puertorican. i DISTINCTLY remember the cornucopia being there.
I had never seen one, and (even on our thanksgiving) cornucopias arent a common sight/symbol in my culture. So the mandela effect transcends even language/culture.
I don’t doubt you remember wondering what a cornucopia was as a kid, but you definitely didn’t wonder that while looking at a fruit of the loom logo. Because it didn’t have one. You were looking at a different image.
Yeah I always remembered it as a weird shaped basket
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Second Blackjack2021-12-30 22:29:12 (edited 2021-12-30 22:29:30 )
My personal guess is we remember the cornucopia because it's featured in movies and media to avoid copyright infringement, kind of like how modern movies and baking shows aren't allowed to show products they're not sponsored by. Nobody actively looks at the real-world logo, but the altered one gets shoved in our face, so it's not surprising if it became the dominant version in people's memory.
Well that doesn't really hold up, as per the south park example he showed. That was a banana and a large purple fruit as minimalistic shapes for 1 scene in low quality. Them keeping the cornucopia shows that thats what makes the reference, that I a part of the original design. Not to mention how it, again, crops up in so many other places
@Dat Guy I guess the main question here is... If we (the common people) remember the cornucopia because of the media we see that's imitating the logo... Where did that media and their creators get the idea of a cornucopia from then? I guess my main thought would just be that a cornucopia just felt like a natural addition in an otherwise simple logo (in the sense that it's conceptually just a bunch of fruits. A cornucopia's something for a bunch of fruits, so it isn't the largest logical leap to associate those two things together, and eventually put them together into a mental image of a logo that's literally at least one of those things; A bunch of fruits in the Fruit of the loom logo). Because of that, it eventually was added in by at least one person from one of those pieces of media, it spread onto at least another person, creating a plague where people didn't bother to check and just bothered to believe that the cornucopia was there, until it was sealed into the common consciousness. From small scale "I just didn't bother to check the logo, it has a cornucopia, right?" to big scale "Holy shit I swear there was-".
There’s been lots of things like this that I noticed throughout my life and always wrote it off as rebranding. When I find out there’s absolutely zero history about the things I remember…. THAT’S when things get weird.
i agree. about 5 years ago, a musician named Melanie Martinez released a song called "Play Date" and it was always one of my favorite songs. when i listened to the song, i always thought one of the lyrics was "we're undressed, playing hide and seek". about a year ago, the song recently gained popularity again due to tiktok and the artist released a lyric video for it. in the video, the lyrics are "we're just playing hide and seek". when i saw that, i was so confused and looked at different lyric pages and never saw what i remembered. the only things that had the lyrics i remembered were a couple little tumblr posts from 5 years ago. it completely weirded me out that it seemed like only a couple people remembered the lyric this way.
In the Philippines, there's a brand of mini-oreo style cookies called "Teenie Weenies" that were a popular snack for young kids, but was discontinued after a while. This became a sort of meme a few years ago when people looking for this nostalgic snack were shocked to find out that there seems to no pictures of it on the internet, and barely (if any) evidence that it ever existed.
There is no freakin way this wasn't real. Everyone remembers not just the actual snack, but the design of the plastic tray, the color of the packaging, and the fact that it had a picture of a cartoon hippo (and sometimes an alligator) munching on a cookie in the lower corner of the packaging.
@Vito C in the UK they used to sell 'sour cream and chive' pringles. Now they sell 'sour cream and onion'. But so many of us are sure it was chive but there is no evidence. I have memory cos I hated onions and onion flavour crisp as a kid and the only oniony flavour thing I'd eat was sour cream n chive Pringles cos I was so young I didn't know chive was a type of onion and as long as I didn't have the word onion on it then I'd eat it. I'm so confused lmao. Even on Amazon people still label these pringles as 'sour cream and chive' but it says onion lol
Here's my theory...I grew up outside of the US, in India, and I do not remember the cornucopia being in the logo. However, when the illustration was shown with the cornucopia, it seemed like it should be there. It just fit. I think it may be because when you google cornucopia, you see multiple cliparts/illustrations/pictires of the cornucopia often with the same fruits in the logo and in the same arrangement. I'm guessing a lot of people recognise a cornucopia from storybooks/textbooks/autumn posters/illustrations of the sort. And because the arrangement, choice of fruits, and even art style is so similar to what you would see in almost any representation of a cornucopia, people automatically remember it being there in the logo as well. A cornucopia is a pretty niche object but it is one of those things that you unconsciously register because it's often included in mundane sources like the textbooks/pictures of autumn, etc mentioned above. Moroever, it's an object that's more prevalent in the western world, or at least we don't have them in India. So, because I was not familiar with the object growing up (the first time I even thought of the word was when I watched hunger games lol), I never remembered it in the logo even though I wore Fruit of the loom products growing up.
The weird thing is, I dont specifically remember seeing the logo with a cornucopia, but when I see the logo with a cornucopia it just looks correct. It doesnt look like something was added
Most likely because your brain thinks the logo looks empty and incomplete with just the fruit there. With the Cornucopia added in it just makes the picture feel more complete and pleasant to look at.
someone proved the company applied for a trademark extension and the document gives a very vivid description of the logo, and that includes the cornucopia. I think I saw it posted on reddit. i think applied for in the 90's maybe...
That's how the "Mandella Effect" works. Most people don't misremember, but just don't remember it too detailed, and a person accidentally includes a faulty detail and it starts to spread, nobody bothers to check and it becomes too real memory for some people.
I think the reason why we think it had one was because when we see the cornucopia logo, and it subjectively looks better than the actual logo, making our brain think the more appealing one is the real version.
Same. I never gave much thought to the logo until the Mandela Effect became a thing, but when I first saw a video showing the two logos and asking "which is right?" I guessed the cornucopia. Also, for what it's worth, I asked my mom what the logo looked like (without telling her about the Mandela Effect beforehand) and she said it had a cornucopia s well.
Yeah, exact same situation with me. It does look much more pleasing and eye-catching with the cornucopia, I think, but I don't recall ever thinking the logo had one.
It's because your mind is using that drawing to fill in the blanks. Any recreation that he could have shown would have been exactly how you remember it. It doesn't help that the recreation is quite professionally done.
"Fruit of the loom is a confusing name. I see the fruit, so the thanksgiving cone must really be called a loom." - exact thought process of me and a lot of other people during childhood.
I’m Swedish and I distinctly remember believing a “loom” was a cornucopia until I watched the hunger games, based on the tag in my Green Day t-shirt with the text “fruit of the loom”. The logo is very distinctly different from how most logos look here in Sweden so it stuck out to me, because it was on all of the band shirts, and the cotton was particularly scratchy
Honestly, I can't remember whether or not there was a cornucopia in the logo or not. I didn't grow up with this brand of underwear, but I definitely remember seeing the logo in Walmart. I think, like Emp said, it was such a small and mundane detail that I never really sat down and studied the logo. Part of me says that there was cornucopia and another part says otherwise. I'm also wondering if seeing this video implanted the idea of the cornucopia in my head. A case of false memories being formed simply by being introduced to this new idea about a minute detail that I didn't care about.
Most people probably saw the fake logo and it just looked right so they get the thought that thats the way it always was But theres a lot of evidence to show people have remembered it that way anyway which is so crazy to me
I vividly remember seeing it on my underwear when I was little. I didn't know what the cornucopia was and jokingly assumed that the cornucopia was the "loom" where the fruit came from. I remember learning about Thanksgiving and associating the brand with it after reading what the cornucopia was. What's so weird is that there are a number of references to it that are left over. Even books have described the logo with the cornucopia. What changed?
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Mikael S2022-06-04 16:32:51 (edited 2022-06-04 16:35:12 )
I remember the first I saw the logo back in 1997. I was pretty "old" at the time (16) and thought it was a new clothing brand. To make things short: it had a cornucopia, and since english is not my native language I thought that said cornucopia was a "loom".
For me personally, the cornucopia looks like how I “remember” it but I also recall seeing the cornucopia on school lunch menus in November or on calendars. I think something about the shape and placement of the fruits triggers certain memories of seeing Thanksgiving logos and clipart.
I distinctly REMEMBER the cornucopia, only brand of britches I wore as a kid. Nobody can convince that it wasn’t there. Clearly somethings going on, reality is fleeting no average person knows how this shit works.
And there is such an obvious effort of debunking these occurrences, that there has to be something to it more that “what, are you conspiracy theorists”… GTFO W/that mess man
Also, it was the grape leaves for me. I remember the point (couldn’t give you an exact time, I just remember making note of it as a child) that I noticed that I had fruit of the loom tags which were different. They had changed the grape leaves from brown to green. At this point I noticed that what I had always just assumed was a cornucopia because I had never paid enough attention was actually leaves. Maybe this was it for a lot of people. Maybe children asked their parents what the brown on their tag was because we are trained as a society to not realize that grapes have such big ugly leaves and their parents couldn’t be assed to answer such an inane question so just answered with what made the most sense to them. It’s a cornucopia! Maybe they were deluded such as myself when they made these claims. We may never know. What it really does is makes us painfully aware of how fragile our consciousness is, even as a species
Honestly the way I see it is that Thanksgiving is an extremely forefront time of the year to most North Americans and with that the imagery of a cornucopia is extremely common every single year leading up to fall. I think people may have mistakingly taken the image of fruit pilled up as being something familiar to cornucopia imagery nearing Thanksgiving and confused the two.
I myself don't remember a cornucopia being on the logo at all and I pretty much only owned fruit of the loom undershirts and underwear up until I was out of highschool and I very much remember it just being a pile of fruit, no cornucopia. Although I can agree with people who say that it does look very nice with one added in and I wouldn't mind if the logo was changed to that.
I'm guessing it's some contextual brain fogging type thing where young children mix up "fruit of the loom" with the very common idiom "fruits of the harvest". And obviously fruits of the harvest conjure strong cornucopia vibes. I can definitely see young people that don't know what "loom" means yet making that error, then growing up and swearing the underwear has an inexplicable autumn/harvest vibe.
Doesn't explain it. People from outside the USA who don't celebrate thanksgiving at all remember it. Its not unique to a single country or even culture that's why its interesting.
It explains a large portion of it though, obviously it’s not going to be the reason for everyone but it likely is for a few. At the end of the day it’s a brain and it’s impossible to know exactly what specifically malfunctioned for so many people to misremember it but it isn’t like it’s unprecedented. Honestly if it was at all related to parallel universes it would be the least convincing proof of parallel universes there is.
@UncomfortablyClose maybe some but it's honestly so common that I think the thanksgiving explanation is slightly reductive.
Kind of like the "big foot is just bears walking on their hind legs, look at this video from a zoo!" and like sure that might explain some but bears doing that in the wild is quite rare and so on. I don't believe in bigfoot at all in just using that example. It's a one size fits all explanation that kind of doesn't fit enough to be useful?
It's definitely some of it though, that I'm sure of.
I don’t think it’s trying to be a one size fits all explanation it’s just trying to be an explanation, and I’d say it’s a pretty good one. Not everyone is American but I think it’s a good explanation for some of those who are. It doesn’t have to be the answer for every single person.
@UncomfortablyClose like I said, I'm sure it explain some of it but it's a very us-centric theory on a global brand with people remembering the same thing all over the world. That's why it's interesting, these single country explanations don't actually fit it very well. Otherwise I daresay this theory would solve 90% of it.
I'm saying this likely explains some of it but the reason this "Mandela effect" thing is more interesting than others is because its not confined to one place where a dominant cultural image (like thanksgiving) can explain it. There's a reason for example, the Shazam thing is only restricted to the US. Shaq wasn't well known in Europe and people who do remember the movie in that area remember wondering who the hell Shaq was more than the movie itself- for example.
Yes and I’m saying it wasn’t trying to explain everything, there is no one answer to why hundreds of people may misremember something, the explanation tries to answer as best it can but it isn’t applicable to every single person.
@Communist Shoplifting They are maybe sold in a few stores in other countries. But no one knows the brand outside USA. We have thousands of brands and no one cares about this small brand or what their logo looks like.
@Jurij Fedorov 32,000 employees worldwide, estimated value at over $3.5 billion, sold in every major market on earth and most countries, considered to be one of the best selling clothing companies on the entire earth.
>small company >no one outside the USA knows this company
There are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association
So much of this thread is Americans thinking they're the centre of the world. I'm European and for years never even had the concept of Thanksgiving to misremember the logo, let alone even know what a cornucopia was
I’ve looked into this a lot as it fascinates me, and I think you’re right. I’ve asked a lot of older people from the U.K. and they’ve all said they don’t remember a cornucopia at all, they described it as just fruit. it seems to be an exclusively American thing, and the thanksgiving adverts and logos often have the cornucopia on.
@immune18First if you watch the video it disputes why thanksgiving wouldn't really make sense, and there are a lot of people from other countries who remember it. Still does not explain it
It's funny, I always thought it was weird that the logo DIDN'T have a cornucopia, because why would you just have a bunch of fruit hanging free as a logo for underwear? It's supposed to carry your family fruit lmao!
I grew up about 30 minutes away from a fruit of the loom factory that employed a vast number of people when there was no other work available and it was a total outrage when they shipped production abroad a number of years ago.
As a kid I remember distinctly hearing the word "cornucopia" several times in relation to that logo. I've never seen a cornucopia anywhere but on the logo.
@Medroff I think you mistook it for a cornucopia. You probably saw one before, like in class, but your mom wasn't around to be asked. Then you saw the logo
@Devin Giltner i don't think that's it, as quite literally everyone I can ask to (without showing the images beforehand to not skew results) remembers the cornucopia, in the same style that's drawn there. And it comes from people that live literally all around the world, for example I'm in Italy. Fruit of the loom here was never a standalone brand, but that brand you'd find on the printed t-shirts on a town festival, it was never publicized or sold anything in stores. People here have only seen the logo briefly and never looked at it for long, probably just to cut the tag off as it's itchy. It's not a logo that's so generalized that you start to mix your memories with other similar stuff... so for everyone to remember the logo with a cornucopia is very weird. It's a bit like measurements. You get one measurement that's 0.08" too short? Well, that could easily be an error in the measuring instrument, or a mistake on your part. But if you repeat the measurement multiple times, with different instruments and different people, a d they all come out 0.08" too short... That's less likely to me an anomaly.
It's because your mind is using that drawing to fill in the blanks. Any recreation that he could have shown would have been exactly how you remember it.
@FAB1150 I’m late to the party, I know. Here are my two cents. No offense, I don’t mean to insult you, but from your comments here, it seems like you’ve spend a fair amount of time reading into this. You want to believe in the case you’re making. The problem with this is that you’re not a neutral observer, you can’t have a sober conversation with people and ask them about it if you already expect a specific outcome.
This happens all the time, even to the best experimenters. They expect a specific outcome and thus influence the conversation or convince themselves that the answers they receive support their hypothesis. Which is why double-blind trials were invented. :)
It’s truly unsettling how - in this case too - we cannot trust our brains to know truth from a mental image we have. It will make sure to paint colorful, lively pictures into our head whenever it serves to purpose of having a cohesive memory. And cohesive memories are memories that keep our perception of the present intact. Your perception right now is that you’re right. That >>could<< literally be all it takes.
@Beep Boop I’m A Robot that's actually a great comment and in no way an insult, don't worry.
I'm aware of that and I never mention anything about the logo on purpose. My conversation usually goes like this: "Do you remember fruit of the loom, that brand you find on promotional or street fair t-shirts?" "Oh yeah / no I don't" (If it's a yes) "can you tell me what logo you remember? Describe it to me" "It's a bunch of fruit on a weird wicker basket / a cornucopia / a brown thing in the background" (actual answers I got, obviously translated from Italian)
If they mention a basket or similar container I asked the shape of it. No descriptive terms ever got out of my mouth. It's (almost) always a cornucopia, but there's always a wicker container.
That's the weird thing, that everyone remembers at least a wicker container, even if it strictly isn't a cornucopia, without me mentioning one beforehand (since that could actually put it in their memories). When I show the actual logo, people always are at least in the "huh, weird" mood. If it was just me and a few people on the internet... Well, that would be just our memories playing with us.
With every other weird "oh do you remember it like this?" there's at least somebody I find who remembers it correctly, and some variation between how the people remembers the incorrect thing. Not with this. Every single person has the same recollection of the logo.
@FAB1150 this proves his point, those people you talk to assume that fruit of the loom in and of itself implies the existence of a cornucopia in peoples minds, it's ubiquitous in our cultural awareness and perception to do with fruit and logos, imo. Only 3 possibilities likely exist, they changed the logo but no one has one as proof, or knockoff companies made one with that logo but no one can provide one as proof, or everyone just wants the logo to have the basket cause in our minds thats what makes the most sense, but it doesnt and never has.
That's not actually how you remembered it. You remembered "there is supposed to be a cornucopia." Then someone showed it to you and your mind retroactively updated itself to imagine THAT cornucopia.
Sometimes I really wonder about people who are talking on comments, because I noticed there's a divide between people, one group of people seem unmovable in this idea that everybody's wrong and it's all a fallacy and your brain is wrong, and it's imagination, and another group of people where they saw the logo they had experiences with the logo and their normal human beings, the way some people talk doesn't seem correct have you ever noticed that read the comments in this chat and just look at the way some people talk doesn't it sound almost planned out like it's programmed into those people?? 😂😘💕
@lasarousi dude look at you. Watch some crazy shit have happened in 2012 with CERN and in the future we figure it out. Also could be quantum immortality.
The internet has made it abundantly obvious that we all keep switching to different timelines and mass scale communication has allowed us to catch the indescrepencies between each universe each time it happens, this wouldn't have been possible before
@GeoneIt would be different for different people. I didn't even know what a cornucopia was before I heard about this a long time ago and still remembered the same image
It's crazy how easy our human brains tend to fill in the gaps in reality.... Sometimes it's hard to suspend disbelief until you really take in the idea that the human brain simply is way too unreliable at remembering things, but it's very good at being creative even without you deliberately trying to do so.
This is definitely a case of conflating 2 logos in our collective memory, and I just wish I could figure out what actually had the cornucopia as part of the logo
It’s pretty common for media without product placement to tweak a logo in order to allude to the thing (Pear instead of Apple etc.). The cornucopia looks really good behind the fruit, so my guess is somebody threw it in on whatever project to make a recognizable pseudo-brand. Since it looked so nice, other people who wanted to reference Fruit of the Loom made the same addition and it became standardized with time. You probably see this media variant more or less as often as the original now, so it no longer registers as a parody.
There’s probably an obscure patient zero for this buried in decades of archives but it isn’t very searchable.
i vividly remember the cornucopia being on the logo. i had only seen the fruit of the loom logo a few times on custom t-shirts from various activities i did as a child but i swear there was a cornucopia. i’m british, so i never encountered any other fruit of the loom products nor had seen the logo anywhere but those t-shirts. i feel like cornucopias are a mostly american thing as well and i had no idea it was called a cornucopia until last year when i found out about this mandela effect. i’m literally so confused since the logo is the only place i had ever even “seen” a cornucopia before
For some reason, after rewatching this video and seeing the logo with the cornucopia, something about it felt familiar to me. Comfortable, even. I thought it was probably because I've seen this video before, but for some reason after rewatching it, now I'm getting the feeling that I've seen this version of the logo way before that, like as a kid.
What's weird is before watching this video, I didn't even remember having any memories the Fruit of the Loom logo without it. Either rewatching this video somehow triggered some Mandela affect-type memories within me for some reason, as in those false memories were always in my mind and I guess I maybe wasn't paying that much attention to the video so that's why I didn't feel that way before, or what happened was the thing where false memories are planted into your brain (I don't know what that's called, but I do know that's a thing).
Time is an infinitely looping multiversal simulation and your current consciousness can sometimes unhinge itself from this "timeline" and "swap" or even "merge" with another you. Deja Vu is your awareness of this fact, usually in the form of nostalgia. Ideally you should feel comfort but when you are hyper aware of the truth of time that nostalgia is replaced with dread causing a phenonmena known as Deja Vecu.
What people don’t realize is that your memories can be changed just in a whim. If you think you misremembered something and you change it to something else you believe that to be the actual memory but it could’ve been something completely different and like emp said we use multiple memories to construct one and the same with words which why we sometimes mistake certain words that look similar for one or the other. Reality is really just in your head and you can change it to be anything you want
I think it's perfectly in line with the Monopoly example.
The way the fruits are arranged is typical for an arrangement that would also have a cornucopia behind them. And since a cornucopia with fruits coming out of it is such a common image, it's natural for people to associate it with an image of fruit by themselves. Cornucopia arrangements aren't limited to warm colors, and pumpkins aren't always featured. Grapes are an even more common element in cornucopia pictures, and aside from the apple, the rest of the Fruit of the Loom logo is comprised of grapes and grape leaves.
People having specific memories about it are probably mistaken about those memories as well. They learned about the cornucopia from the common thanksgiving image, and mentally conflated that image with the logo which they also misremembered as having a cornucopia. Likewise with the people who thought it was called a loom. Because they mistakenly remembered the cornucopia being in the logo, they also assumed that the cornucopia was called a loom.
Yes thats what im thinking too! Growing up in europe, cornucopia connects to greek history and making wine out of grapes in my mind. It absolutely fits the image in my head just like the monopoly man
Naturalistic explanations are all fine and well with most phenomena, but they don't explain everything. I can tell you that as ignorant and as neglected of a child that I was growing up that I had no notion of where food came from. I had the image of a ranch for animal products but for the longest I thought produce came from stores. Eventually farming was explained to me, making me feel really stupid.
I didn't know what a cornucopia was nor did I know what "that basket thing" was used for nor that it was called a cornucopia, and I do remember asking about it when I was really little until I was told it was some sort of basket.
I've experienced tons of Mandela effects before even being told about this general idea that explains these phenomena.
Believe what you want but I assure you that people really have experienced some of these things. Indeed some times things might be corrected by the brain after pattern recognition has been made but small children haven't been exposed to enough to have an easy subconscious association to ignore a proper focus onto such things, I was always focusing very hard on the examples I clearly remember which aren't easily explained and asking questions about them like I was for everything.
But my overwhelmed single mother almost always was too preoccupied so I just would keep visually experiencing day to day things without words or listening to things that almost everybody's heard which generally are heard about the same way or divides into two general camps of memory.
Anyway keep an open yet critical mind, study hard and think for yourself. Peace!
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John R2021-12-17 00:20:31 (edited 2021-12-17 00:20:58 )
That doesn't really account for the people who only learnt what a cornucopia is from seeing the logo and inquiring about it. Or who thought it was a fruit or something instead until finding out what a cornucopia is from learning about the Mandela Effect.
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C L2022-01-23 11:46:50 (edited 2022-02-04 14:12:16 )
This! "Isn't this very adequately and simply explained, by people seeing OTHER images—with the same motif as the FotL-logo—featuring a fucking corn-dog?"
There are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association
That's why premises are completely irrelevant to whether a work of fiction is good or not, even though most people will attribute a lot of weight to the premise when discussing why they like something or when deciding whether they should check something out.
dude your oblivion challenges are hilarious, thanks for making them. so cool to see people still breathing life into that ancient, crooked, bloomfilled, glorious mess
This one genuinely made me question my existence. I don’t know why I would imagine such a specific thing. I was introduced to this one as a verbal question, so it couldn’t have been confirmation bias.
But even weirder, why do we ALL remember it. We all remember it in the same place. We also all recognize the drawing shown in the thumbnail as THE drawing. So weird.
Theorization: The Cornucopia is likely there due to the mental affiliation of it typically being filled with fruit in a pooling out way, which may effect memory as result in some way.
I think the Simpsons is actually the reason for a large part of this phenomenon. They constantly misquote/misrepresent Pop cultural references only slightly and therefore make adolescents believe that was a direct quote instead of a paraphrase.
There's definitely a cultural element here. I'm from the UK, I grew up with school uniforms that had fruit of the loom labels, but I've never imagined the cornucopia. Possibly since its association with harvest and Thanksgiving weren't a part of my culture. I'm not sure I even knew what one was until I was a teen. Also played Monopoly a lot as a kid, but we don't have Mr Peanut here either, and I never imagined the monacle on Mr Monopoly.
@Dzhikhad why not that would be like saying Pepsi wouldn't change the logo just because they've been using it for so long and honestly with how prevalent means the internet culture is with corporate life nowadays I could totally see this happening
The fact it looks better with it is exactly why everyone remembers it with it. The layout looks exactly like a cornucopia of fruit spilling out, so out brains form the connection when recalling.
@A Mad Hollow yes and, that has nothing do with this, just bring up science stuff doesn't prove your stupid conspiracy theory, it just proves you were drop as child
@Dan Loeb that doesn't account for all the people who didn't even know what a cornucopia was, had never seen them anywhere else, and thought it was some type of squash, or a weird tree branch thing
i have various band shirts that have shirts branded with fruit of the loom. when i started watching the video i was fully confident there was no cornucopia but as the video went on my confidence dwindled and it looked far more familiar with the cornucopia. i had to go out and find all of them just to see whether or not the cornucopia was there which it wasn't. also note that i'm not american. i had never seen the logo nor heard of the brand until i got the first of the shirts in maybe july or august of this year when they were shipped here so i've had little to no experience with observing the brand. its messing with my mind just a bit
I was on board for the explanation of the Mandela effect as being largely due to retrospective reconstruction of memories. You lost me when you put a cornucopia filled with fruit and a logo of a pile of fruit which people mistakenly remember as having a cornucopia and went "these things are irreconcilable". People don't mistakenly remember other piles of fruit as having cornucopias because they aren't inked and colored in a way that looks extremely reminiscent of default Microsoft thanksgiving clipart. It also probably helps that a fruit on a juice box is a thing you eat and not a decorative metaphor.
I full on know there wasn’t a cornucopia on any of the fruit of the loom t shirts I’ve worn, but it probably just looks so perfect for everyone’s brain that I feel as if our brain just fills in the blank for all of us just because it fits so much in with the logo
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Kurt Yarish2021-03-09 06:35:34 (edited 2021-03-09 06:41:57 )
It's weird... after the first time I watched this, I inquired about the Fruit of the Loom logo to my dad while visiting him. Figured since he was born in the early 60's, that he was old enough to give an interesting response, and he doesn't use the internet so his recollection wouldn't be tainted by people discussing the phenomenon. I did my best to not prime his mind, and to let his recollection be his own. He, too, recalled the cornucopia, but here's the kicker: "cornucopia" wasn't a term he was very familiar with. When I talked to him about it, I had to explain to him what a cornucopia was. The term he himself had used for the object was "Loom", as in "Yeah, [that brown basket thing is] the Loom", which makes me wonder if there was some prominent TV show or movie in the past that made a joke about the "Loom" in Fruit of the Loom being a cornucopia or basket. And from there, the thought jumped culturally from person to person until it had infected everyone's mind with the idea. A "meme' in the literal sense. I can almost see the scene and hear the dialogue in my mind, it feels like a natural joke to make. I dunno.
If it interests you, i'm a native spanish speaker and even though most of the media that i watch is in english i have no idea what a Loom is And i never paid much attention to the logo but whenever i read "fruit of the loom" first thing to pop in my head was the fruits not in a cornucopia but in a kind of glass bowl (more like a plate than a bowl idk how to explain it) because that's how generally my mother displays the fruit on the table
So maybe people that remembers the cornucopia didn't know what a loom is either and their brain just went to how fruit was displayed in their home
@Eliel Solares I think that's a reasonable hypothesis. For reference, a loom is a large device that weaves yarn together into a fabric. "Fruit of the Loom" is a reference to how their product is produced using looms. "- is the fruit of -" is an archaic English saying for "this one thing is derived from another", in reference to fruit being from trees. In other words the company's products are "fruit of the loom".
Even though a loom (or modern versions of such) are vital products to modern society, they are rarely encountered by day to day people. It's not too surprising for even a native speaker to be unaware of what a "loom" is, exactly.
On another note, I know exactly what you mean by fruit being displayed in a bowl-like glass container, because that is also a somewhat common way of displaying fruit in the US. Though you will usually see fake plastic fruit (for decorative purposes), rather than real ones. Using a real cornucopia to display produce isn't common at all except for maybe on Thanksgiving or similar holidays during the Fall season. Even then, you usually see it in pictures or art rather than an actual, physical one. I imagine it was more common many decades ago, but probably not for nearly a century. Which still begs the question: "Why did their minds go to a cornucopia, rather than a glass bowl or plate like you described?"
@Kurt Yarish I actually just recently learned what a cornucopia is, and I still remember the cornucopia even though I had never heard of one before. Also, the drawing of the cornucopia is the exact same version everyone else remembers. Weird, isn't it?
@Rip Roarin' Bro, the Mandela Effect usually doesn't affect me, like I know for a fact Pikachu never had black on the tip of his tail, but the cornucopia is definitely vivid in my mind. But even while I was watching this video, my mind began to question itself, wondering if I ever had thought there was one there to begin with, or I if I just THOUGHT I thought there was one there... 🤔
@Chemikalz I remember from playing the games that it states that markings on the tail are gender markers (also probably depending on the game, I haven't played a pokemon game since diamond and pearl) and I think I remember it saying that female pikachus had an indented black mark on the tail. The show's main pikachu howerver doesn't have any markings on the tail. Even looking at pictures of the show, other pikachus have subtle differences on their tails, including black marks. This instance seems like it came out of being pedantic about THE Pikachu rather than overall 'population'.
I like how the comment started off unbiased and just from the father's opinion who's very old and doesn't use internet.... Then starts talking about a bunch of personal opinions that make no sense, does she not believe her father, because it was there!!!
Kurt, my dad had many Fruit of the Loom undershirts and underwear in the 80's and 90's... I just asked my dad fully expecting him to also have remembered it being there. He said he didn't remember it being there! But then I showed him the actual logo and he said he didn't remember it looking like that either - then he said it's possible, but that he doesn't pay attention to small things like that... but I just feel like he must have if even I did. Such a mystery
@SevenFoot Pelican Wild! I wonder where my dad got the idea from? I don't think he particularly wore many Fruit of the Loom products, but he's certainly owned his fair share. Perhaps that's why my dad misremembered the logo and your didn't.
I also wonder if the phenomenon is do to people conflating their memories of Thanksgiving Day decorations incorporating cornucopias with the Fruit of the Loom logo? Simply replacing one pile of edible plants with another?
As someone that saw curious george for a good half of my childhood, when I heard people thought he had a tail it really messed with my mind because I remember george using his feet hands to climb and hang upside down but the thought of him having a tail just makes so much sense 😂
I am Italian and was born in the 2000s so I never really knew Fruit of the Loom because it wasn’t popular during my childhood, but once for a school play I had to buy a plain orange t-shirt and my dad (who’s from the 70s) suggested we bought a Fruit of the Loom one from Amazon. I vividly remember seeing the cornucopia on the label, although I didn’t know what it was and thought it was a willow basket. I think that this shows how I was not influenced from the reality to resemble the cornucopia with the logo, because I didn’t know what thanksgiving was nor did I ever see it on the TV because it’s really not a thing in Italy. Craziest part is that both me and my mom remember not giving this shirt away (even though I bought it when I was 11, I still have a lot of shirts from my childhood and they still fit me, so I don’t get why I should have thrown it) but, looking in my drawers and closet I can’t find it. It still leaves me shocked to this day. I don’t think this “mystery” will ever be solved, but we’ll se…
The weirdest thing about the Mandela effect to me is my lack of being able to visualize what I am trying to recall, for example I remember pikachu’s tail having a black mark but I can never draw or have seen an image that looks right with the black mark, and the cornucopia I remember but the one in the image looks wierd and I can’t think of where it should go to make it look right.
@Adrian is Doing NO FAP Day 1 It’s someone who put a stock image that looked closest to the fruit of the loom artstyle, desciribing what they thought it looked like. It’s not important to find who made the image
I remember the entire thing being black and white but the design was still the exact same, and yet looking at it with color also looks correct! I feel like I'm loosing my mind lmao
People in this thread who genuinely think this might have been the logo weren't paying attention during the part of the vid that explained how memory works. You think this is the way the logo looked because the image above is filling in that blank and suggesting that's how it looked. There's no way anyone remembers the exact lines or whatever of the cornucopia, if it was ever there―knowing what we know form this vid, the fact that you're so sure this is the right logo should be evidence to you that it isn't
@Tube Guy lol, then you are a savant who not only remembers incredible detail, but detail that never existed in this context. Don't be silly. Your confidence doesn't change how memory works
@Chompy the Beast it's that confirmation bias thing, ain't it? or something similar. There's a lot of memories i have - though not this one, as a non american who never even heard of this brand - of other like, brand namey things that were common over here that were not as i remembered. I have embraced the fallibility of my memory and tend to take it into account whenever i am faced with contrary views or evidence that challenges that memory, and it is honestly a good thing because it causes me to pause and check the facts as they are, not the facts as I remember them. And guess what? A lot of the time, when that happens, i find out I was absolutely wrong in my recollections! That there is proof enough to me that memory is a mutable construct that can and will change in a way that is subconscious or unconscious based on everything from dreams to external pressures or suggestions.
People should be more open to this - as being close minded about your own memory is something which often leads to folk adopting increasingly strange and illogical viewpoints, ranging from flat earther mentalities to general conspiracy theorists to the classic version of antivaxxers (the hardcore ones), all of whom completely reject evidence of reality as a whole if it runs contrary to their memory of learning the thing they believe in. Okay, a little bit of escapism generally won't hurt folk in moderation, but folk really need to consider how far they're willing to slide beyond mere escapism into full on fantasy, and need to know when to go out of their way to search for the facts without simply taking refuge in biased sources six pages deep in google just because those sources match their memory.
@im gauge Haha nah, it's not a conspiracy against you, it's just the Mandela Effect. People haven't stripped the internet of proof of this misremembered memory just to mess with those who swear they have it, nor did they design the human brain to operate the way it does.
What's weird to me is how fundamentally some people want to believe that their memory is somehow a perfect storage device, such that even when they're confronted with how is actually works, they'd reject science and reality in preference of what they think they already know, even in the absence of all proof
@Chompy the Beast to be fair, this is a theory that is challenging someones reality, as your memory is usually synonymous with reality of the past. to give something like this up is a lot harder than it sounds logically. i think its like why its so hard to convert a religious person to another religion, we frame our lives around what we believe to be true, even in the absence of proof for it
@im gauge Indeed, the issue is less the memory and more the way that people incorrectly think about their memory. People trust their senses far too much, especially when time has passed.
But this "Mandela Effect" stuff is just outrageous to cleave to: It can be proven beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt that the Fruit of the Loom logo never had a cornucopia in it. Old commercials and advertisements exist, and not one of them has been shown to use a cornucopia.
Some people seem to think "the Mandela Effect" doesn't refer to a collective misremembering, but to like, a glitch in the Matrix or something, where reality was literally changed, and their individual memories are more correct than external reality. That is beyond faith in one's memory, that is sheer ignorance, petulance even, a childlike demanding that one can't possibly be wrong despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary high enough to block out the sun.
If people had better understanding of their human limitations, the world would be a safer, kinder, smarter, and gentler place
@im gauge Our senses are all we have to interact with the outside world, so you're right, we must rely on them. But we shouldn't trust them (and by extension, ourselves) to be infallible, for they aren't. We must understand that everything we think we know about the universe we only know through the filters of our senses, and those filters change, both moment-to-moment and over time, and their memory storage is not a 1:1 recreation of reality stored within our minds. We have never experienced the faces of our mothers or the embrace of a loved one by any means other than via our fallible senses. We have to accept, therefore, that everything we know, we only know by proxy. You and I may both look at the same rock, but we will see different things, and we will remember it differently, 10 minutes later, 10 days later, 10 years later. That's something that we must accept, whether we like the sounds of it or not. We must accept it as we must accept death: Though it may be unpleasant and it may cause existential dread, denial will not make us wiser or more correct.
And yeah, the Mandela Effect gets its name because the South African apartheid government clearly wanted everyone to forget that Nelson Mandela was still living. Cover-ups can indeed be committed, and it's good to be naturally suspicious of authority and power―it would just be better if "We the People" challenged our human masters out of skepticism far more, and physics itself a bit less (outside of scientific pursuits).
Good points, thanks for bringing them up. Have a great week
@Chompy the Beast That still doesn't explain why soooo many people chose to visualize a cornucopia behind the fruit. Yes, our memory is flawed, but... Why a cornucopia specifically? As someone who vividly and clearly remembers it being there, this whole thing is a little disturbing lol. And I have a degree in Psychology so I understand how memory works, but... it doesn't make it any less weird. Why didn't we imagine the fruit in a basket, or something other than a cornucopia? It's just such an obscure, archaic object that no one would recognize if not for Fruit of the Loom and/or Thanksgiving.
@EvanDoood These questions are easily answered: Because the Fruit of the Loom logo looks like common cornucopia imagery. But it never had it. We can easily confirm this by looking at old commercials, advertisements, and old clothes with the logo on them. Not a single instance of any of these has produced a version of the logo with the cornucopia. It never existed.
So why do people think it did? First, the Fruit of the Loom logo is one we are not encountering regularly. If you'd seen it daily or weekly for years, you would not have misremembered it. But it's not that common a logo for most of us―there is a reason why there are no "Mandela Effect" arguments surrounding the McDonald's logo, for example.
Second, cornucopia imagery is extremely common, and indeed is far older than our civilization. If you google "cornucopia" or "horn of plenty" (the translation for its Latin name), you'll get images that look distinctly like the Fruit of the Loom logo, except spilling out of a cornucopia, that go back to the Roman days. The imagery is super common in America around Thanksgiving, but it's also something that you see a lot more as a 5th grader or younger, doing Finger Turkeys and making Pilgrim Hats out of paper in class. Again, the age of these memories comes into play, and the fact that cornucopia imagery is more commonly encountered than the Fruit of the Loom logo makes it easy for people to conflate the former with the latter.
Finally, the alternative, that this is some strangely effective cover-up, or that the universe itself reset but forgot to make people forget, is just ridiculous. There isn't even any motivation for any group to purge all records of the Fruit of the Loom's logo just because it used to have a cornucopia but now doesn't. If there were any legitimate examples of the logo with that cornucopia behind it, they would have surfaced quite quickly, people would still have sweatshirts with it from back in the day in their closets. But no such photos exist.
No matter how you look at it, it's very clear that the Fruit of the Loom logo has never had the cornucopia, and that people are simply feeding into one another's misremembering with their honest but incorrect retellings of childhood memories seeing it. Those memories are warped, conflated, or simply false
@Chompy the Beast to add on, I would bet many others like myself noticed the fruit of the loom design as a kid but not as much as an adult. all my undershirts as a kid was fruit of the loom. I remember seeing the logo everyday and being very familiar with the brand, but I've only worn Hanes now since high school. When you mention the thanksgiving Cornucopia depictions, I have distinct memories of that from elementary school. I personally do not recall the cornucopia design on the fruit of the loom logo, although it looks complete and better with it ngl. But i can easily see how someone as a kid would probably conflate thanksgiving imagery with fruit of the loom logo. Its one of those things you passively add to your memory so your recollection ofc isn't going to be the accurate. Nobody intentionally memorized it and was tested on it, so limited exposure shouldn't be trusted.
I don't need Google to tell me pikachu has a brown tail and ryachu has a black one i trust my gut cus irs the reason why i am still alive anyone who says there wasnt a cornecooia8. Asl yoursedl5 why am i so selfish lol ? And ignorant to ty he vastness of the mysterious universe we know barely norhinf of .
@Benjamin Husfelt I'm sorry, but this "trust my gut (even in the face of raw data)", puff-chestedly ignorant bs couldn't be more perfectly encapsulated in this nonsensical, devolving comment lol
@Wizard Lizard The truth is, your memory is a lot like your skeleton: The cells that comprise it die and are replaced over time, and your memory, like your skeleton, is simply not made of the same hardware as it was a decade or so ago. That's something you'll be forced to reckon with more and more as you age, as are we all, haha.
Memory is not a perfect recreation of the past, nor are old memories even perfect recreations of the first time you remembered them. The movie changes a bit over time, for one reason or another, and often, things get conflated, or shuffled together a bit. The specific explanations for why this happened in the case of the Fruit of the Loom logo I have covered in too many words in previous comments, so I'll spare us all repeating them here.
What, you think some massive underwear brand logo change cover-up is more likely than you just mixing up similar images you used to see a lot more in the past? Or that it's some sort of glitch in the Matrix, but somehow the glitch didn't change people's memories, even though it has supernatural powers otherwise? Of course not. People misremember things all the time, and that's where all the facts are pointing to in this case, no matter how certain anyone without any evidence at all might feel about it otherwise. A strong conviction or belief simply does not always equate to a factual memory
@Wizard Lizard I already offered my explanation in my reply to @EvanDooood here in this chain, I'd refer you to that comment. But the (slightly) condensed version is:
1) You haven't seen the Fruit of the Loom logo a ton lately, so it's had time to change in your memory. There's a reason people aren't swearing the McDonald's logo changed, for example: It's always around, we see it a lot.
2) Cornucopia imagery (with fruit and the horn-shaped basket) is very common, even more common than the Fruit of the Loom logo. You also used to see it a lot more in elementary school when you were making finger turkeys and whatnot for Thanksgiving, so again, that's an image baked into your brain from long ago that's had time to blend with other, similar images.
3) Not really an explanation per se, but again, what is the alternative? That ghosts changed things? That it's a conspiracy? Those are obviously less likely explanations. The best explanation is that people are conflating cornucopia imagery with a similar corporate logo because it's been a long time since they've seen it and the two images are so similar. Fairly simple.
These things happen all the time. You'll get a lot of people swearing up and down that they remember seeing this or that, but just like this mysterious alternate Fruit of the Loom logo, there is simply no proof to corroborate the stories.
Final point: If the proof existed, it would be easy to find, and it would have surfaced by now. Old VHS recordings of TV commercials, old archived newspaper ads from the 60s, something would have cropped up by now if the logo had even been used briefly for some sort of promotion. But nothing has, because it seems it never existed. The internet was not scrubbed of all offending Fruit of the Loom logos haha
Anyway, this stuff is fun to think about. Can't trust your senses to be perfect: nobody can. Have a good week!
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Benjamin Husfelt2021-11-18 18:42:15 (edited 2021-11-18 18:43:17 )
I would like to add that did in fact die as a boy for 10 mins and came back from encephalitus and those memories are prior to that. But i vaquely remember around the timecmike jordan endoraes hanes underwear that fruit of the loom was sued because the cornecopia was mean to native americans. Just my two cents peace.
Benjamin Husfelt2021-11-18 18:44:42 (edited 2021-11-18 18:45:31 )
Im 32 i dont need google to remind me pickachu had q brown tail and RYACHU had a black tail lol and i still remember trading my charzard to samantha mullen for her jigglypuff lol
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John R2021-11-22 02:35:47 (edited 2021-11-22 02:37:36 )
@Chompy the Beast when my sister and I were kids we had a habit of always pronouncing silent letters in words. So knife would be kah-nife, castle would be cass-tull, etc. I know for a fact we would always pronounce dilemma as dilem-nuh because of the silent N. I asked her randomly to list off some of the words we used to pronounce that way without providing any additional context and that was one of the words she mentioned. When I told her it was spelt dilemma she didn't believe me at first and had to look it up because she knows as well as I did we both pronounced it that way SOLELY for the reason that it had a silent N. Turns out there are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people that also remember that silent N. Hearing that a bunch of people believe something is one thing, but having a vivid, enduring memory of something that was brought up in everyday life pretty often hits on a wholly different level.
You're free to speak to the fallibility of memory, but when doing so to counter a theory that states that reality itself is changing, don't expect to gain much traction.
I can only buy into the Mandela Effect so much as a whole, but I KNOW that for me dilemma was once spelt dilemna, and the independent confirmation without leading or coaxing from my sister is what really seals it for me. Since then I've encountered many other examples that, just like her, I refused to believe upon initially hearing, and some in which I see no change at all.
Lemon speaks briefly at the start of the video about companies using stylized spellings, and causing problems with people's recollections that way. How then, to explain how so many -- myself included -- remember the restaurant name as chic-fil-a and NOT chick-fil-a?
There are many other examples, but from what I've seen you're less interested in engaging with the topic than with defending Lemon's explanation against any who disagree. Maybe I'm wrong about that, though.
@John R "You're free to speak to the fallibility of memory, but when doing so to counter a theory that states that reality itself is changing, don't expect to gain much traction." What are you implying? Magic?
I don't need to gain traction against absolute nonsense, nobody does. "Reality is changing" may be a true statement in many senses, but "the past is changing" is not, not in a literal sense anyway. Or if it is, I'd invite you to explain how you think so. Timetravelers meddling with our clothing logos and word-spellings?
Again, there was no conspiracy to rewrite "dilemma". You were just kids back then. It's far more likely you were just being silly, accidentally (or perhaps at one time purposely before you forgot) misspelling a word than it is that the entire world forgot how to spell it and then somehow also destroyed all the evidence that it was ever spelled that way, then somehow forgot that too.
To put this one to bed: "Dilemma" comes to English from Late Latin and is first attested in the 16th century. The Latin actually borrowed it from Ancient Greek δίλημμα (dileemma). The word has been spelled with two m's (or two μ's), therefore, for literally thousands of years. I can assure you, it was not recently changed to drop an n that was never there―This information is freely accessible not only in the modern day online, but I even have an Ancient Greek dictionary printed in the 1920s that includes the word "δίλημμα", and refers to the English word "dilemma". Unless you're a hundred years old, it's very safe to say you and your sister were just being adorable.
So I ask once more, since I feel like you're burying the lede here: If you still aren't satisfied with this explanation, then what are you really implying is happening?
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John R2021-11-22 03:09:44 (edited 2021-11-22 03:10:38 )
@Chompy the Beast I just told you I don't buy into the Mandela Effect theory, but are you familiar with it beyond this video? It kind of seems you aren't.
I feel like it wouldn't be fruitful (sorry) to get into the implications of quantum superposition and the act of observation's ability to collapse multiple realities into one solid reality, but seeing as multiverse theory isn't exactly outside of modern mainstream scientific discussion, making a comparison to magic seems rather disingenuous and dismissive.
Trying to show faulty memory by resorting to etymological roots shows either a basic misunderstanding of the tenets of the Mandela Effect as commonly given, or an unwillingness to engage with the theory on any serious level.
There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Chompy, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
@John R What? You think etymology and literal physical records are a greater intellectual reach than quantum mechanics and merging multiverses somehow literally changing the past just to alter a silly word's spelling? You think quantum physics can change not only human memory, but every single copy of every single book ever written for thousands of years?
I cannot say I've ever heard of a physical model of quantum mechanics that describes anything like that. Even the most superstitious person would find that sort of miracle-working suspicious, I'd imagine―and if you can find me a single quantum physicist who thinks it's more likely that multiverses and quantum mechanics changed the spelling of "dilemma" than it is that you and your young sister were just being boneheads like kids do, then I'll gladly hear them out. Hell if you can explain it to me without being nebulous and hand-wavy with that "anything is possible" stuff, I'd even listen to that. But I seriously doubt there is any hard science for you to point to.
I mean, what―are you saying quantum physics changed everything, but left you and your sister's memory intact? Why are you the Chosen Ones in this narrative, and why were billions of books over thousands of years and my own memory not able to escape this Men In Black Forget-light quantum tech? Seriously, give me a break.
You can't just take mystical interpretations of the universe and then overlay an incomplete understanding of physics to bring nonsense myth into reality. Frankly, unless you're kidding with me, you seem to be refusing to accept reality and deluding yourself with stories that make the Greek myths seem like incontrovertible science. I can't help you if you're going to make nebulous claims about quantum mechanics while also dismissing very basic studies like etymology, I'm sorry, but frankly that's laughable on the face of it
@Chompy the Beast And that's why I said it wouldn't be fruitful. For the third time, I don't really buy into the Mandela Effect, I'm explaining to you where it comes from because you seem uninformed. Not interested in playing a game of gotcha with you anyways, though, so have a good night.
@John R I am asking you: Please explain how quantum mechanics or Multiverse Theory has anything to do with the Mandela Effect, something more than "Hey, it could happen." Because frankly, it seems this exchange has not been fruitful because even you don't actually believe what you're saying, not because I'm unwilling to listen.
The Mandela Effect doesn't come from Quantum Physics, it comes from simple misremembering and/or deliberate attempts to fudge history. Its namesake makes that very clear: Are you suggesting Nelson Mandela was killed, but then came back to life decades later because of some sort of Multiverse Convergence? No fan of the scientific method would ever entertain such an outrageous claim without even a shred of offered evidence.
You're being nebulous because you pulled out "quantum mechanics" as if it was some arcane magic nobody understands that could possibly explain any fantastical concept that pops into our fallible minds. You might as well have referred to the Gods themselves, for all your data. But neither they nor quantum mechanics have anything to do with the Mandela Effect.
Again, please explain in any way how they are actually connected. Otherwise, don't blame me for your unwillingness to explain yourself
This guy really said "me and my sister used to misspell a word with a silent / reduplicated letter in a game when we were young and that's proof quantum mechanics and/or the multiverse changed the past", questioned my grasp on the situation, refused to explain any further, then peaced out. I hardly even know what to say, haha.
I'm glad, because all these colorful objections to my point really drive it home: People need to accept that it's more likely that they made a mistake than it is that the entire universe around them changed (but left the memory intact in them uniquely, for some reason). This is some wildly self-centered ideology that seems to completely reject the inherently corporeal nature of everything that is the human mind. It's mystical nonsense, and draping it with poorly-understood science doesn't make it any more logical
Whoever made that virtual image of the fruits with the cornucopia is the person who controls reality and has the capacity to erase human memory on a mass scale. We'll never be able to accurately figure out who did it
@Tube Guy Slowly over time I've come to accept the possibility (not reality) that cornucopias were items that were very popular in the 80's and 90's... you'd see them in a lot of thanksgiving-related images.. and Fruit of the Loom is the only widespread logo in the world with a collection of fruit (plus, older variations of the logo had large brown leaves on the logo which we also could have short-circuited to be a cornucopia). so our mind automatically pairs it with cornucopia's.. but it's such a damn mystery... I think the human mind plays this trick because the cornoopia is such a strange, unconventional and rare item to see - so it's difficult to remember where we first saw it, since it's shown so rarely in images that we automatically pair it with a well known corporate logo.
Sam Browne2022-04-29 13:02:33 (edited 2022-04-29 13:03:15 )
For everyone saying that's definitely exactly how it looked because they remember all the detail... pick another logo that you've come across roughly as much as the FOTL one (or even a logo you see regularly!) and see how accurately you can draw it from memory, without looking at it again beforehand. There's no way you get most the detail right unless you've specifically tried to memorise it all previously. I doubt you could even say where all the fruit are in the FOTL logo without looking again
@Sam Browne that's beside the point. It's not about recognizing where every individual piece of fruit is, it's about knowing that the logo was a bunch of fruit in a cornucopia.
I like many others think I remember the cornucopia, so this one is just really interesting. I was thinking about how much I used to color with my grandma when I was a kid. Cornucopias were very common in those books, especially holiday themed ones. I wonder how much my own coloring could have conflicted with my memory of this logo I didn't pay much attention to. Just a theory I haven't seen anyone touch on before!
As someone who grew up in the 90's, I remember the logo having the cornucopia. It wasn't until I watched this video that I became aware that it wasn't there. Strange that entire swaths of the population can misremember something the same way, makes you wonder what else we don't remember correctly.
To me it kinda looks like a set piece that people might have had for decorations. I’m sure I’ve seen something similar at my grandmas old house. But for me while it does seem vaguely familiar, as soon as you showed the initial difference I instantly could tell the one with cornucopia wasn’t right. I don’t think it would be far off to say that people have just been adding it cuz it’s definitely what I think of when I see a pile of fruit
I have no idea how to word it, but there's a phenomenon where some people can't picture objects or locations in their heads. Would be interesting to see more about that. Seems related to the Mandela Effect.
The strangest thing to me is that the drawing is EXACTLY what it looked like. It’s not like I remember a cornucopia, but the drawing isn’t how I pictured it. The cornucopia is drawn COMPLETELY the same.
Memories are just filling in the blanks, and if your filling in a missing piece of art, naturally it would be drawn in the same style as the rest of the logo.
@Akantares Combining two memories. Its not that you didn't ask about the cornucopia, but you saw it someplace else. Probably around thanksgiving when cornucopias are everywhere. Then sometime after you connected the cornucopia with the fruit of the loom, your brain merged those memories.
@The Saint Laurent Don it’s not that it’s unreliable it’s just been optimised through millions of years of evolutionary programming to min-max certain traits to ensure you manage to survive long enough to reproduce offspring. Remembering the logo on your underwear probably isn’t going to help you in that sense.
if anything, that is proof that it never existed. If there was no real cornucopia, then it would be easier to trick your brain into thinking it was one particular drawing of one. This kind of memory manipulation has been documented and tested over and over again
@Humphrey Appleby yes, and my younger brother does too. I asked him to describe the fruit of the loom logo and first thing he said was “well there was this horn or something”
@NinjaCell Again I reiterate, your memory can and will change after the fact. You probably only think you remember a cornucopia after making an association with it some place later. There is also potential that your image was blury to begin with and after seeing the fake cornucopia version of the logo you made that your baseline in your memory. Cornucopia's are also not exclusive to America, they came from Ancient Greece and are fairly common in most European histories at some point.
If you want proof your memories will change, keep a diary of your exact thoughts on matters of life. When you look back after a long time, your outlook on things will be completely different and even your memory of how you felt or thought at the time is in opposition to what's written in the book.
@Crumbsly I literally have only remember the object in association with that, cornucopias are not seen over here at all. Not everyone is delving into European history for ancient Greek fruit holders.
@NinjaCell The fact it's simple is what makes it make sense. If you had a vague memory of a fruit logo as a kid, you wouldn't question the inclusion of a cornucopia every else swears they remember and just like that your memory changed. How long was the last time you saw the logo before the Mandela effect brought it up and how often did you ever think about the logo? If your memory is that old and irrelevant its completely easy to add details and then cement it in your brain as fact. And even if your from another nation outside the US its entirely possible you saw it in a piece of media, art, video game, movie or literally anything America related as Thanksgiving is one of our biggest cultural celebrations and US influence on the web is huge.
Also I say again if you have ever taken a journal you will find you add and subtract details from memories constantly, and even your very headspace is completely different from how you remember even just a few months later. Now in regards to a memory of a logo you first saw as a kid and never gave any regard to for your entire life, there is a lot that would be fallible to change even in a single instant many years after the fact.
@Crumbsly no no that's not like that, first time this fruit of the loom thing has been brought up to me, somebody asked me to tell them what the logo was, so I recalled from memory before the "wrong" one was shown to me... And they were identical.
That's the strange part to me, it wasn't my brain filling information with what I saw after, but that cornucopia looks exactly how I remembered it before it was shown to me.
Couple of years late on this but I always remember that basket in the background too, and also remember it being called "the loom". Interestingly, the state I am from, NC has a cornucopia with fruit and even grapes in it right on its state seal. Something I definitely would have seen growing up when I frequently wore fruit of the loom clothing as an elementary student. Not sure how it would affect people living in other states, but it is a strange coincidence nonetheless.
I don't remember the fruit of the loom logo on the packaging or underwear having a cornucopia on it but the image of the logo is very familiar which makes me think maybe Walmart had signs with the logo up with the cornucopia added by whatever minimum wage worker they had make the sign and all the Walmarts used the same sign so everyone who went to buy fruit of the loom would see it but it was never an official logo
So weird. I remember a cornucopia. Now knowing fruit of the loom never had one I figured it had to be another brand with a cornucopia logo and other some other items closely matching what we see in fruit of the loom. I found a couple instances of this online, but I had never heard of these companies before so I wouldn't be remembering it from them
Well, that was certainly intriguing! Who the hell would've thought our old childhood tighty-whities would end up proving the existence of a parallel universe as we matured (or, in my case, completely failed to mature) into adulthood?
I've had two instances where a word seemingly vanished from my vocabulary, dare I say vanished from existence. One was a word equivalent to: amateur, but it was stronger, and more Significant. The other was equivalent to: psychology or psychological, but less strong, and more casual. I understand having that "I swear I remember this, but I can't find evidence of it" feeling. It sucks big time, as I was about to use the words on a paper I was writing when I forgot them. Fun stuff for discussion, not so fun when you're trying to write a witty paper.
I haven’t owned that much Fruit of the Loom wear in my life but I live in Texas and I do half-remember tracing/drawing/coloring cornucopias around Thanksgiving as part of the festivities when I was in elementary. I think maybe the actual act of drawing or coloring something so distinctively similar to something so common as a brand logo a kid would own is a pretty good correlation and would explain the mixup for the most part (for America, I mean).
I blame elementary school Thanksgiving decorations and books. I've seen more cornucopias in my time in elementary school than I have in the other 16 years of my life
@VanillaAbstract i swear to god during fall in pre-k to 2nd grade teachers would always be telling us about cornucopias and i have absolutely no idea why they would teach us about them so much
@ItsCorvid Same even though I'm canadian and it's considered an american "tradition." None of my american friends ever had one in their house though. People have fruit bowls or candy in a dish, nobody has cornucopias. There's like 4 old ladies in the world who have fake ones and that's it.
I used to love the fruit of the loom logo when I was a kid. I remember it without a cornucopia, and I think it looks weird and different when you add it in.
I feel like it has something to do with Christmas and Thanksgiving, at least here in the US. In the 90s and 00s most people watched television with a multitude of commercials, there was no ad blocker or ad free subscription tier.
Cornucopias were abundant on television during November, Macys day parade, thanksgiving football games, movies, all featured cornucopias.
Now pair that with almost every kids (and Adults) worst Christmas present, underwear. Fruit of the loom titie whities were in every kids drawer and dad’s drawer. Socks, undershirt, tanks, and of course underwear. Is it so hard to believe that we started associating the logo with other similar images during the holiday season?
I believe there has to be a correlation, it also falls inline with occams razor theory.
Mandela effect does not affect everyone which is why a consensus will never be attained, on one side you have people who remember things differently and know for a fact their memory isn't false, on the other side you have non-affected people calling us crazy because they just aren't affected so they don't have the same memory. These logo's and random things changing are just scraping the surface tho, for me i spent 20 years of my life on one version of earth, and the last 3 on a totally different one. Still don't know why it changed tho, and impossible that it's just false memories, literally impossible, especially since most of my family remembers the same earth i do. Not all tho, which is why it's so difficult for the unaffected people to understand what we're going trough.
@Hedged-Valley south america became south-east america completely distorting central america, north pole used to be a solid land mass like south pole, whole earth is smaller no idea by how much, Australia used to be MUCH further away from Indonesia and didn't have a square indentation on it's northern side, Sicily was further away from Italy, Finland had allot less water bodies, Japan was further east and Russia gained allot of random land masses.
Also a random flying saucer shaped Temple that looks like a CPU from the top appeared near Bangkok and is supposedly a big worship site, didn't exist when i was there a couple years ago, would have deffo visited that instead of the boring ass temples i did see
The Union Jack used to be symmetrical.
The shape of our liver changed TWICE, first it became thin and elongated, then after a few days it changed again, reverting almost to it's initial state just now it looks like it's made up of 2 different parts.
In the YMCA music video there's a 6th dude that wasn't there (military costume) and they no longer do the YMCA dance with their arms.
Those are all 100% without the shadow of a doubt real mandela effects that couldn't possibly be me just misremembering stuff, especially the position of south america, every time i see a map it still hits me like a brick to the face because of how big of a change it is. I wish i knew why or how this could happen, but as much as i researched it, there is no rational explanation for it except for the multiverse theory, everything else is crazy conspiracy theories with no evidence whatsoever, and even if it is indeed because of a multiverse, it still doesn't explain why things would change in the first place, and why only for some people and not everyone. The only thing i know for certain is that it's not just bad memory, that would be even more insane because of how many people report the exact same memories, we'd have to all be insane in just the exact same way for that to happen, and that makes no sense.
Damn i get recommended of madela effect videos every now and then and i get recommended to you in the mean time and find you in comments of random videos...
@BxPanda7 just....... Statistically.... What do you think is more likely? That you literally hopped into a different timeline or that you just misremembered something
@BxPanda7 union Jack was asymmetrical since I could remember learning it, in 1998 when I had a British Flag shirt in middle school. I worked with my mom at a British supermarket and tearoom, so I learned alot about it before I was old. I remember memorizing which direction the fat stripes and thin stripes were supposed to face in the big X.
@Komið Most of my close family remembers the same things... Did we all just suddenly start misremembering the exact same things for no reason ? Statistically, that's extremely unlikely, so yes, it's much more likely that something weird that we don't yet understand happened. Also me and my family/close friends are not the only people who seem to be affected by those mandela effects, there are people all around the world with the exact same memories, so again, statistically speaking, misremembering is the least likely option.
Humans are social creatures controlled by flawed pink meat things. These pink meat things are really bad at remembering and due to us being social creatures we often trust those (and adopt) the memories of our friends/family. It only takes one of you to have a blurry memory that you then fill in the gaps on, to then spread this idea convincingly towards your family and they will also agree and adopt those same memories.
For example if I asked you "What shape is the earth?". You would reply sphere (hopefully) because you trust and adopt the memories and ideas of people you know, you wouldn't do 10,000 calculations on the spot to determine the shape of the earth all you would do is remember it.
and do you wanna know how easy making false memories is? Well here we go. Two weeks ago on a Tuesday you were eating cereal for breakfast but the milk you got was tasting a bit funny, so you checked the date but it was still before its best by so you kept eating. If you were paying attention you would have made a false memory in your brain about that scenario playing out, all you need now is to be convinced that that memory is true to then spread it along to your family members if you so choose.
obviously this as worked all on a hypothetical because I know nothing about your situation but I do know that you are human and humans have terrible memory, so I am very certain that the possibility that you have false memories is immeasurably higher than the chance of parallel universes or whatever.
Because if your memory is good enough for you to be sure that none of them are false then it should be easy to tell me how many times you took a breath during the day 2014/06/09, and because I know you cant do that you obviously don't have a good enough memory to be above false ones.
@BxPanda7 if you genuinely think it's more likely that you were snapped into a different universe/timeline than it is that you and your family just misremembered stuff then idk what to tell you, sis.
@Komið So you think thousands of unrelated people from all around the world suddenly claiming the same thing is just people misremembering stuff ? How does that even remotely make sense ? Not to mention i remember these things perfectly well and clearly, so misremembering stuff makes absolutely no sense and is not a more rational explanation at all. The only valid theory is that there are still things we just don't understand about our universe and that some things we >>>assume<<< are impossible, are indeed possible.
@Pan-Athens So one day i wake up with totally random but very clear memories of a totally different world, something i actually pay attention to regularly, and when i ask the people around me i get many telling me they remember the exact same thing, then go search on internet and find multiple threads about people saying the exact same thing, but i'm supposed to believe i just randomly have a case of bad memory ? That makes absolutely no sense.
@BxPanda7 The South America one is the only one I really noticed. I was so sure that South America was much much more straight down below N America rather than being skewed to one side. But I'm assuming it's just due to faulty memory and crude drawings of maps and just getting the 'general impression' that S America is underneath central and North America on a map. I really do think these are memory distortions and it's only recently people have been able to share the common memory distortions with each other through social media etc.
@BxPanda7 As this video explains, we misremember this stuff in the same way for the same reasons. Like people misremembering 'stain' as 'stein' due to that being a more common name, or 'froot' as 'fruit' because we all normally spell it 'fruit' etc.
@BxPanda7 I’d say anyone who’s experienced some form of Mandela Effect or deja vu look into Quantum Suicide Theory, hard to explain here but that’s the only way I can reconcile some of the more minute Mandela Effect stuff.
@Tessalator Basically what you're saying is the same mandela effect happened to you too but because your knowledge of the map wasn't very clear you are capable of chalking it up to bad memory, you're not the first person to tell me that, problem for me is i have the world map literally on my wall over my bed, i see it everyday and have the image burned into my mind, so when it changed i could instantly tell it did since the map over my bed changed from one day to the next, can't possibly be crude drawings or faulty memory, and the north pole being absent from the map is also a very obvious change, i used to think that the world was a sandwich with the buns being made of ice when looking at globes, that's gone now.
And also no one is mentioning the thing about the liver, because as i said, it changed TWICE while i was reseaching the mandela effect, that cannot possibly be false memories, it's literally impossible, completely outside of the realm of possibilities, and both times i was with another person who saw the changes just like i did, so being randomly insane for just that and literally nothing else in my life is also a ridiculous idea.
There's only one logical conclusion i came possibly come to, and it's that the universe can be strange and do weird things, i don't know why or how, but i'm sure one day we will figure it out and have a rational scientific explanation to this phenomenon, because telling thousands of people who have the same exact memories that they're just randomly making up false memories is not rational in any way shape or form, but merely people trying to be rational and going for whatever doesn't go against their pre-conceived beliefs about reality.
@BxPanda7 The north pole is solid. The soviets put a statue of lenin there. Its often left out of maps because its ice and not land. And for some reason they include the ice around antarctica. But if you look on google earth the top and bottom of the world are covered in ice.
And about south america, how could an entire continent move without causing any change other than on the map. The connection to north america would have to change which would end up changing the borders of nations and the outcomes of wars, etc. as geography plays a big part in conflicts. That would seriously affect the way the world is. If you were hopping between universes you would not just notice a few small changes, the name and history of the country you're in could possibly change, due to the butterfly effect of having a different shaped continent. It makes sense that people would think north and south america are on top of eachother, but reality doesnt conform to our preconceptions.
@Ruthacury The north pole was a continent, and was illustrated on every single modern map. That's the problem.
And no, continents didn't move around on the face of the earth, that is nonsense, and again, no, apart from the geography literally nothing changed in my life that's the most mind blowing thing about it, there is no butterfly effect with the mandela effect, everything is exactly the same with only some things randomly changing for no apparent reason, it's sort of like when Rick and Morty accidentally destroy the earth and go to a parallel universe where they didn't destroy the planet, randomly die in their garage and everything else is the exact same, basically, there could be an infinite amount of parallel earth's to chose from, meaning there are many different one's where the history of the earth is exactly the same with only a few unnoticeable details changing. And if quantum physics applies at our scale, then that's probably exactly what it is, given that every single possibility should be accounted for.
@BxPanda7 You can't just dismiss the butterfly effect. It is simply not possible for the position of an entire continent to have been different and not change history. The world is incredibly interconnected. You can't just change one or two things and everything else stays the same.
Also if there really were another continent you would remember something about it. The name, the history, which country owns it, etc. But you can't, because its just an endless stretch of worthless floating ice as it always has been.
When I was a small child I thought the Spanish Inquisition was in Italy, even though I knew where Spain and Italy were, and that it was called the Spanish Inquisition. But I associated the church with Rome and Italy and so I thought the Spanish Inquisition must have been there. Human memory is a fragile thing.
If you think of the origin of the Mandela effect, some people thinking that Mandela died in prison, while he actually didn't and went on to be president. Wouldn't the people of South Africa have noticed this change? One very convenient thing about the Mandela effect is that it always happens to something that you're not too familiar with, or something at the back of your mind. Which is what you would expect if it was just caused by failing memories.
@Ruthacury Agreed, i can't just dismiss the butterfly effect, logically you are right it should have consequences on our history, and maybe it did, but in a way that i wouldn't be able to notice, that's entirely possible, best answer i can give to that is i just don't know.
Antarctica is technically still considered a continent, just like the Arctic, so it's not like there one less continent on the map, it's just that it was much bigger and much more solid than what we have now, and was on every single globe/map, now there isn't even enough space up there to have the Antarctic like it used to be.
You associating the Spanish inquisition with Italy has absolutely nothing to do with false memories, and has even less to do with the world map changing from one day to the other.
And finally, this IS something i was and still am EXTREMELY familiar with, that's why it cannot possibly be a false memory, i know the map very well and as i said before, have a map of the world literally on the wall behind my bed, i see it everyday and have seen it everyday for many years now.
And this also still doesn't explain how our liver could change TWICE while i was in the process of researching the mandela effect, it literally switched on me while i was paying very close attention to it, so again how is that possibly a false memory ???
@BxPanda7 It's clear we're never going to agree on this. I didn't bring up your perceived change in the shape of the liver because that's a really subjective thing that I can't really speak on without more evidence. imo something that cannot be proven and that isn't logically consistent is not even worth considering. So anyway, nice to speak to someone that does believe in the Mandela effect. Even though I don't, it's nice to see some other perspectives on the world.
@Ruthacury I don't believe in the mandela effect, i know it's legit for a fact as i went trough it, and i hate it, it's the most annoying thing ever because not only does it make me look like a crazy person to the vast majority of people, but there's also literally no way to physically prove it, either it happens to you too, or you'll never know for sure that it's legit, it's so stupid. And i can't even fault anyone for choosing not to believe in it, because if it didn't happen to me, i don't think i would believe it either, it just sounds so ridiculous and goes against everything i thought i knew about the universe, almost like we're really living in a simulation and it glitched or something, idk, but it annoys me that people are so wrong about it yet think they found the right answer, it's just not right and we aren't learning the right thing because of it. Especially since this could easily be proof for the multiverse theory (or something similar) if only we could find a way to prove it scientifically, it's such a wasted opportunity and feels like a big step back instead of the huge leap forward it should be.
@BxPanda7 I feel it could be proven scientifically. Anything that has a physical effect, even if only in people's heads, can be tested.
Say for example you select a few facts about the world and quiz a known group of people every day for a long while and see if, don't record down the information but have the researcher memorise it and see if peoples answers change over time. If say half the people are "Mandela effect"ed into another universe you would notice. Also I think you mentioned your family went through a similar thing, so you could have groups of families or people living in close contact instead. And then just let the study run and watch for sudden changes in memory of certain people, (people getting switched with others from alternate realities in this case).
Obviously disqualify people if they get too old and start suffering from dementia or some memory affecting illness. And the study would probably have to be on a very large scale with multiple groups of researchers to maximise the portion of the population tested. But it is definitely testable.
However I doubt it would find much, but that's just my belief, you're free to differ obviously.
@BxPanda7 lol just start doing memory exercises buddy. You clearly misremembered stuff. It happens to all of us and it’s always a shocker. But just because YOU, a tiny speck in this universe, perceived something as something else does not make it true.
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The Peer Review2020-12-09 16:12:45 (edited 2020-12-09 16:16:50 )
@BxPanda7 there's a possiblity that the map you used to use used a different projection than the one that is popular today. Depending on what world map you look that, things can look bigger/smaller, further/closer and even different shaped. This effect is amplified the further north/South the countries are. Worth noting that there is no "more accurate" version of any flat world map, each projection will prioritize keeping one or two things the same and distort another. It's impossible to flatten something spherical without cutting it and deforming it, only truly accurate world map would be something like Google earth or a globe.
@BxPanda7 Commenting so I can follow this thread, but also you seem really sure about this, and perhaps it's plausible - life and the universe is inconceivably strange, and it's impossible to know everything. We've been very wrong before. But at this stage, as uneducated about this subject as I am, I have to side with the most likely scenario. But perhaps someone will prove you right someday. :)
@BxPanda7 I was originally kind of on your side but as you went on you just kept getting more and more pretentious. It is amazing to me that you, as someone who is "EXTREMELY familiar with" the map seems to think at one point the North Pole was on a continent. Literally Google "where is the North Pole" and look at the FIRST picture that comes up. That is a clear representation of the Northern ice cap which has NEVER been a continent. We have had 7 continents my entire life. No more. No less. I in no way believe this is a product of parallel universes. As the great philosopher Robin Williams once said "The problem is, God gave man a brain and a penis and only enough blood to run one at a time". This would probably go a lot farther in explaining why you got a little confused with your ceiling map.
@Ceramic Bowl I never thought I'd be so throughly lectured about the human memory and the mandela effect by a ceramic bowl.. On a serious note though, there are memories that are easier than others to forget and some people do have better cognitive capacities than others. Some of that guys aclamations do intrigue me a bit. He said he went to Bangkok in a place where there was a huge monument and nobody in his family remembered seing it, its possible that the monument just looks more distinct in the photos he saw it in after than from ground position where he was with his family, so they just didnt notice it and later were baffled aboit there being such monument... But its weird. The human liver one is really weird as well. How can your idea of a basic organ change so much in your lifetime? Maybe it's possible that our consciousness can for some reason move to a different version of ourselves in a proximate paralel universe, that features small differences from ours but not enough as to be completely different from our reality. That takes into consideration the idea in the multi-parallel universe theory that the more distant a universe is from another the more different they are and that there are infinite possibilities within. There may be universes that are so simmilar that the only difference between them is a slight difference in the position of a one single atom in the whole universe, and universes so distinct from one another that the whole inner workings of physics in them wouldnt allow for the same type of life forms to exist.
@Anonymous User bro it's possible that as a kid you just thought it was a gameboy because that was the only thing you knew and didnt question it any further, so in your memory it was a gameboy, but then, as a more observant and/or knowlegeable adult you realized that it wasnt.
@Neko Saiyajin It is not at all possible for your consciousness to connect to a version of you in a parallel universe. There are so many assumptions and illogical thoughts needed to get close to there being even a smidge of a chance of parallel universes, and being connected to them.
First assumption is consciousness: Consciousness (I'm getting tired of writing this word) is just electricity running through your brain. It is nothing more. It is really hard to wrap your head around consciousness (pun intended) because it doesn't correlate with any intuition that we have. I could get way into the nitty gritty about consciousness and try to explain it a little but I have other points to move onto. Main point is that consciousness isn't significant it is just complex software.
Second assumption is parallel universes: They don't exist! sorry! There is the exact same chance of a parallel universe existing as finding out that Shrek created the universe. And that isn't an exaggeration. It is literally impossible to research anything outside of our universe, making everything outside of it purely sceptical and therefore all ideas have the same infinitesimally small chance of being right.
And final paragraph to encapsulate the rest of my ramblings. Why would our consciousness interact with other versions of ourselves from different universes, that would be information travelling at far over the speed of light (impossible) also how would information travel between universes? Is there some kind of information highway that connects them all? Why are memories the only things being shared between universes, why not literally anything else, why are humans so special? Spoiler alert: It's because humans made up this fictional scenario, and we like being the centre of attention.
Now. Call me crazy. But I think. Just maybe. That we are imperfect creatures, and our memories kinda suck.
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Neko Saiyajin2021-02-27 14:25:15 (edited 2021-02-27 21:30:40 )
@Ceramic Bowl i also think we are imperfect creatures, but I think you give answers with too much certainty about things that nobody knows. How can you be so sure we dont have souls, how do you know there arent parallel universes or that it is impossible to obtain telepathic powers? You cant be so sure, the non-existance of proof isnt proof for non-existance. The most logical way is to ponder and take every possibility into consideration, until proven wrong.
@Quantum Puddles Oh for a sec I thought that was an insult, as in you were calling them a shit stain out of internet salt, but a sec later I got it lol
@The Horizon I don't blame anyone for thinking that anymore, to be fair I probably wouldn't believe me either if I was someone else, it's the rational thing to do.
When I was reading Hunger Games and the cornucopia was mentioned I imagined it just like the one on Fruit of the Loom, because that was the only reference for cornucopia that I had.
I'm from Eastern-Europe and I remember the cornucopia aswell. I've learned what a basket of plenty was thanks to the logo. Seeing the Fruit of the Loom logo on only the cheapest, worst quality T-shirts, I'm pretty sure now it's an off brand thing.
I remember being surprised the first time I actually saw clothing with the logo on it and it didn't have a cornucopia, but I have no memory whatosever of actually seeing it on anything in person.
this may be the answer to the problem, because it means that my impression of the logo came from casual exposure to media and not the brand itself, and as you noted, the logo had been parodied with a cornucopia as early as the '70s, which predates me.
@rilla fy All I remember is something about spiders and the Mandela effect being a Mandela effect, or something along those lines. The rabbit hole goes deep and it's been years since I've looked into it.
it isn’t an “extraneous” object, fruit laid out with a cornucopias are incredibly common (we’ve seeen theme shit tons as kids on grade school for thanksgiving activities)
The strangest part about this is that I remember a whole commercial vividly with the cornucopia in the commercial. I learned what a cornucopia was because of fruit of the loom, my teachers mentioned "like fruit of the loom"
I remember when I was little, we had a fridge magnet with my sister's name on it, as well as a brightly colored image of a cornucopia full of fruits and vegetables. I think this is probably what I'm mixing the logo up with, but that doesn't explain why everyone else remembers the same thing. Are cornucopias really a prominent enough icon in American culture to confuse all of us about this one particular thing.
I don't believe in parallel universes, and I don't have an explanation. All I can say is that this is a wierd phenomenon, and I don't think anyone will ever have an explanation that really clears it up in a satisfying way.
Sure we probably misrembered it, but WHY did we all misremember it? This is what's so unsettling, about the whole thing. All of these people have one specific, wierd, random, false memory and there's no clear explanation behind it. Everyone likes to pretend they're smart and say it's the "mandella effect" it's a "false memory". No really? You deserve a Nobel Peace Prize for that one, Einstain.
Everyone can see WHAT is happening, what we want to know is WHY it's happening.
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Billy Lundevall2021-08-19 17:51:29 (edited 2021-08-19 19:22:57 )
Watching this is the first time I can remember seeing, or hearing about a cornucopia. Not as in if it's present on the Fruit of the Loom logo, but the actual object itself. If it would have been there I'd probably have wondered what a hollow turd, or possibly fucked up seashell, did next to some grapes.
I remember when I heard about the Mandela effect and someone said the cornucopia was part of it and I was like, “what people think the cornucopia isn’t there?” Only to feel horrified that the controversy is that the cornucopia actually apparently never existed. I never felt more freaked out by the Mandela effect.
But the Berenstein Bears will always be my #1, because I was an AVID reader of those books and would read them religiously for years growing up. It was never BerenstAin and I will take that to the grave
@Stevie Champagne With the Berenstain Bears thing, I feel like it's something I would have thought was funny as a kid, like "BerenSTAIN Bears? Like berry-stained bears?" And you'd think some people would have pronounced it with "stain" instead of "stein" but I never once knew anyone who said it that way. There are some Mandela Effect things that are bogus though, I remember distinctly as a kid wondering about why Curious George didn't have a tail so I know that's just people misremembering things
Dude I'd never heard of Berenstain Bears until I read about it as an example of the Mandela Effect, guess how I pronounced it.. No it's not a crazy inconsistency
@Luminous Holy shit! What the hell? I didn't think C3PO had a silver leg. I guess that I could chalk that one up to my having mainly watched the original trilogy on VHS rather than ever upgrading to a DVD set/blu-ray, but I feel like I've never seen merchandise with only one of his legs silver because I'd have been like, "What is this a bootleg version? Why's his leg wrong?"
What's interesting is it's such a specific and odd item. If it'd been a normal basket I'd just thought it a strange coincidence, but why a cornucopia of all things? I myself never even knew a cornucopia was even a horn shaped basket until watching this; it's such an oddly specific item that so many people are agreeing was there, that it makes me question if there is something to the mandella effect.
Also a horn or cylindrical shaped object in an underwear logo makes total sense to me, they should have had bananas in there.
I haven't been exposed to Fruit of the Loom and their logo that much on account of not being American, but I do remember being introduced to the concept of a cornucopia from some similar-looking stock art. I forget where or when this happened though, was it in a schoolbook or kids' encyclopedia, was it in a travel brochure, was it some completely unrelated brand's logo, even? No idea.
I pretty distinctly remember me being confused why there was fruit and some brown thing in the back at Walmart constantly. Possible but less likely I’ve brought it up to my parents before
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EW B2021-05-02 03:25:05 (edited 2021-05-02 03:25:35 )
I don’t think I’ve ever looked at the Fruit of the Loom logo before in my life, but honestly I think that the Cornucopia version looks better. Just a more complete image, I don’t know. Maybe opinions like that have something to do with this phenomenon.
One possibility is that as children we all learned about the origins of thanksgiving and the cornucopia. I remember doing a project where I would have to cut out and color fruit, then glue them onto a cornucopia. I guess we're all just so used to seeing it in our childhood that its just the norm. BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY
I remember fruit of the loom having a cornucopia on their shirt logos. As I asked about it and found out it was the loom from my mother and her friend. Later that year I was playing RuneScape when they had an event where you could get one and I thought it was a loom like on my clothing’s logos.
I specifically remember this, so I think people who are saying it’s not on the logo are taking a piss
I'm pretty sure it has to do with two key, coincidental things from childhood- Firstly, "Fruit of the Loom" has the word "Loom" in it, which despite how simple the word looks, isn't a word that most kids will know from a young age. However, Fruit of the Loom was a widely popular brand that most children were familiar with. Secondly, Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving scenery often depicts fruit inside of a cornucopia. Cornucopias are rarely ever shown outside of Thanksgiving, and the word is fairly long and unwieldy. Thusly, it's easy for a young child to make the assumption that the thing all the fruit is inside of during Thanksgiving is a loom.
In fact, it's something I hadn't even pondered until this video- The "Fruit" of the loom is a metaphor for the fabric. At no point had that thought ever remotely crossed my mind as a child. I had always just assumed, as a child, that the underwear was named after fruit because that's just how things were.
This video pokes fun at the "alternative reality" theory, but some very intelligent physicists think this is a very real possibility. The way I've heard it described is that every substantial choice represents two or more distinct realities essentially branching off at each point. Although that wouldn't really explain this effect, unless two realities were merged back together if they were almost completely identical. So even if this was true, probably not the reason for this phenomenon.
I think it’s possible that the arrangement of the fruit alludes to the existence of a cornucopia. I had never seen the logo before this video, though I’d heard of the brand, and the cornucopia being there just looks *right*. Perhaps there’s some artistic explanation similar to the line of action that alludes to a cornucopia-like shape, and our brains already associate fruit with the cornucopia specifically, allowing for that to take precedence over, say, a bugle.
Yeah I feel like there’s more to analyze here from an art theory perspective. I also wonder if it has something to do with the sort of rustic art style that alludes to antique items like cornucopias?
interesting. thats very much a thing with art, especially in music, a lot of music composition teachers stress the importance of implying things to an audience, forming things around an idea so that you can suggest an idea without ever actually directly presenting it. seems like what youre talking about.
@Youtube Pizzer It's very much plausible that people saw an image of some fruit with a cornucopia as a kid, asked "What's that horn-thingy?" and then later misattributed that image to the Fruits of the Loom logo.
Yeah I feel like the whole analysis hinges on the idea that the cornucopia couldn’t just be an easily assumed and implied thing, which IMO it totally is. It honestly doesn’t feel any different to the example given of say a monocle on the monopoly man
@Blayne Umberger pictures of a bunch of fruits put together almost always have baskets from still natures to justvlooking at the fruit in your own home, if you see a bunch of fruit without one it doesn't look likr such a stretch to picture one
That’s a super interesting point, actually. The old-fashioned art style could strengthen the association, or be the entire cause of it if we were to assume my guess is wholly incorrect.
yepp. cornucopia may be an uncommon word, but it was one of those things that came to mind a lot when i was a kid (i'm guessing from seasonal books or cartoons) so i don't think it's that far fetched
This is so unusual, here in Ireland we never saw Fruit of the Loom underwear however we would get like school uniforms and stuff made by Fruit of the Loom, but I can honestly never recall seeing a cornucopia
I think you answered the question: an image of fruit is so associated with a cornucopia that it's right there in the patent. It's no different from the monocle thing
Will never be able to convince me it never had a cornucopia. I distinctly remember asking my mom what fruit "that brown one" was at the store in the early 90's, learning then what it was, and then later that same year feeling a childish sense of pride when correctly naming it in class during a Thanksgiving activity. The combination of that proud moment while secretly knowing that "knowledge" was based on underwear (which at that age would have been embarrassing to admit) caused both events to simultaneously register as one significant-enough memory.
I have a near perfect memory of when I was about 5 or 6 and me and my dad were walking around Walmart and I remember there being a display of fruit of the loom shirts and underwear clearly being displayed along with sign showing the logo with the cornacopa
Before watching this video, I can safely say that I never pictured the Fruit of the Loom logo with a cornucopia. But now, after watching it, the cornucopia looks completely natural. Not familiar, because I definitely never pictured it there, but natural, as if it's supposed to be there.
I think it's more of a showcase of the power of suggestion. Someone asks "does fruit of the loom have a cornucopia?" And our brain goes "yeah, that makes sense", so we fill it in. It's actually possible that those distinct memories have been filled in without us knowing.
That or it's the most elaborate and thorough logo simplification of all time.
I honestly think that when most people were at an age that Thanksgiving origins were taught to them, decorations and related media were prominent, is when we first recognized the similarities between our underwear logo and Thanksgiving pictures or wtvr
What if you were asked what was in the logo without mention of a cornucopia? Do you think you’d include it then or could it be there because someone suggested it might be?
Your not wrong. Cern already proved with science you can rewrite history. It's called the quantum eraser. The residuals that prove it works are also present in Mandela effect. Big difference is cerns says it only works with small molecules and only a few seconds into the past can be rewritten.
@Boco Corwin I'm from Europe, almost never came across any images of a cornucopia, and didn't even know what its name was until now. One of the few places I DO remember is from is this logo, looks so much more natural with it there.
I'm not from the US, we don't celebrated thanksgiving here, but the image of the cournocopia is in my subconscious due to american media. I believe people underestimate how easy it woul've been to learn about it from a diferent logo or piece of media, and then mix it up with the underwear logo because since then we associate cournocopias with fruit. Since the missconception is so old and prevalent, it is possible it sustains itself by having people learn about the supposed cournocopia from a parody of the logo rather than the original.
i was reading the comments before I started the video and immediately recalled the cornucopia as well as it's placement and orientation; I asked my wife to recall the logo as well; she too recalls the fruit being held; then we watched the video and saw the new logo saying "that's not what it was" I didn't even let her know why i was asking the question about the logo; I wanted to vett out the most honest non-biased answer from her.
Second grade in the 90's the art teacher had us draw a still life for Thanksgiving of that logo. Drawing the underwear logo was the funniest thing ever at that time and hearing our teacher say fruit of the loom over and over stuck with me. It had the fruit basket and I'm sure of it.
What I always found interesting about this, is the cornucopia in the apparently FICTIONAL mock logo that doesn’t actually exist... is EXACTLY how we all remember it... you’d think we would all remember a slightly different cornucopia if it wasn’t real... so weird. (Unlike Bernestein/stain... where it’s a single letter in a worded title... so the font would match every other letter)
I'm gonna get a bit speculative, crazy-graphic-designer here. If you didn't know, there are eight principals of composition in art, one being rhythm. It's basically the elements of a composition that guide you through a piece. I'm wondering if people are adding in the cornucopia to help repair the logos rhythm. As of now, its a bit bland. You see the colorful fruit, then you read the logo. But with the added cornucopia, your eyes take a diagonal path downwards (tip of cornucopia to leftmost leaf), and end up at the start of the text. Its a more interesting, natural-feeling line than the original design, so it feels wrong when the cornucopia's missing
I once fabricated an entire area in my head in the Fallout New Vegas add on Old World Blues. I had to discover every location in the add on as well as double checking on the Fallout Wiki to realize that the area was never real and I imagined it. Which was crazy to me because I had supposedly memorized the interior of the area and an interactable object in it.
@Rkplblenny He did show his face before... several times at that. He was just very sneaky in doing so, kinda as an easter egg, so you had to be perceptive to catch that
@Rkplblenny he did it as a joker emp in one of his recentish videos, it was shown for a long time and not super hidden... but he was wearing makeup (assuming joker emp is him and not just melvin: brother of the joker with a shaved beard)
I'd say I was 95% sure it existed... it was such a strange object that I never knew what it was a child. I remember always being confused as to what that thing was. It's possible that I just saw many pictures in the 90's with cornucopias (since they showed images of it more often than they do today - as they're sort of an "old school" thing) and I just paired it with the only official logo with a collection of fruit. But the photoshopped version looks EXACTLY like what I remembered it looking like.
It's just strange, because if reality is glitched, the cornucopia is exactly the sort of item they'd use to conceal it.. it's this strange item that no one intuitively knows/understands what it is until they ask their parents. So it's hard to say if you're just imagining things or not
if there were...it had to be in the 70s. I remember all the 90s ads and some of the 80s and there were nothing but fruit. remember we wwre kids and we were also trying to just relate things. I obky knew about cornucopia theijfh Thanksgiving images. But even if it'd not a Thanksgiving imagery, if I see fruits or vegetables or a mix on a table, I immediately go back to that strange thing I learned about...the cornucopia. so I can see why when you go back in that old young, trying to relate things mind, you just slap on that cornucopia
I also vividly remember the cornucopia on the fruit if the loom logo from the late '90s maybe early 2000s being one if not my first interaction with a cornucopia. Absolutely baffled they claim it wasn't there
Yeah, I can say ive both seen the underwear with and without the cornucopia, but id also like to point out 'Demeter's Travels' has a VERY similar cornucopia to the one you put behind Fruit of the Loom's artwork.
really strange how the Mandela effect can work from country to country. In the uk fruit of the loom is still a pretty popular brand but no one talks about it having a cornucopia.
This is really off topic, but that Ed, Edd and Eddy episode Emp used briefly was the first cartoon to ever truly make an impression on me as a kid. It was so 4th wall breaking and existential.
I don't think Ed, Edd and Eddy is under-rated, but I also feel that people don't always recognize it as what an amazing cartoon it was. I still rewatch it as an adult and it never seems like it's talking down to kids or afraid to make certain jokes.
I literally don't remember seeing a cornucopia on fruit of the loom 😂 it looks so different with it all i saw was fruit and thought it was weird to have that on a underwear tag
I had never even seen a cornucopia or even heard of one when I was younger- but u still remember it looking exactly like that. When I saw a cornucopia for the first time, I even asked my grandma what it was and when she answered I literally responded with "so that’s what the fruit of the loom thingy is!"
Before you even put the cornucopia on screen, I had the EXACT mental outline of it where it should've been. Same size, position, slightly lighter colors than I remember, THAT is bizarre.
And the same exact shape. The tail continuing to curl a bit at its end, the thickness of the ribbing, the amount of taper in width along the length... Exactly how I recalled it.
I mean let's be real, how many other ways would your brain imagine it looking naturally? The only other way is flipped with the tip on the opposite side, nothing else would look right haha
This video didn't look super interesting and I clicked on it by total accident, but somehow it was extremely interesting and I stuck around for the whole thing. Really well done.
After you added the cornucopia it looked completely natural. Seeing depictions of fruit with cornucopias behind them, is super common. Not to mention, memory is absolutely horrible. We can literally implant memories into our brain under the right circumstances.
I think it’s just weird to see a pile of fruit on underwear of all things, and it would kind of make sense for it to be in a cornucopia or some other container, the way the underwear contains our “fruit”
The fact that cornucopias are included with each trademark involving piles of fruit shows just how common the association is. Whenever still life drawing is taught, you'll see examples of paintings with cornucopias. If you were asked to draw a still life of fruit, you'd be likely to put in a cornucopia, even if it was never mentioned or you don't even know what it's called.
I know all too well just how fallible memory can be. There was an anime I saw somewhere around 15 years ago give or take a few years. I recently rediscovered that anime, and the one scene I saw of it was NOTHING like what I remembered. I had it in my head that it was super detailed like along the lines of Ghost in the Shell, or Akira, but it turns out that Big O isn't anywhere near as detailed due to its style. I also mise remembered the shape of the robot in question, as well as the scale of the explosion it made as it was shot. On top of that, I misremembered the scene after it, where the butsling highway was actually just two vehicles on a city street, and the character's dress was black, and not white like how I remembered it.
As someone who saw the Fruit of the Loom logo just now(never heard of them ever), the logo with the cornucopia feels way more memorable than the normal one. Maybe it was some kind of a parody logo in some show and as it's more memorable, everybody remembered that?
I think it’s because of thanksgiving because seeing the thanksgiving version invokes an even bigger sense of correctness than the fruit of the loom logo
I'm not entirely surprised that people keep recalling seeing a brown smudge on their undergarments. The fact they recall it being around the logo, that's the worrisome part.
its a very common motif, its not that weve seen the fruit of the loom depicted so many times without the cornucopia but weve seen the cornucopia depicted so many times WITH the fruit that (like you explained in the video) we get it confused. Why so many people remember asking their parents about it, they probably saw an alternative depiction in the decoration section of hobby lobby and then just rememberd it being fruit of the loom.
As a person who worked at a clothing embroidery and printing shop for a summer where ALL our in store clothing was fruit of the loom there was never the cornucopia. I didn't even know that was a real thing. Unless that logo was before my time then it was not there man
Fruit of the Loom made my school uniform. I remember examining the logo on my jumper in the car and asking why the fruit bowl is a cone instead of a bowl and he told me it was a cornucopia. I specifically remember that's how I found out what a cornucopia was.
Why would so many different people misremember something so specific, when I was a kid I thought that the cornucopia was a “loom” and so that’s why I thought the company was named fruit of the loom because of the logo, fruit being in what I thought was called a loom. No one will ever be able to convince me that the logo never had the cornucopia. Makes me think that I shifted timelines.
Im honestly amazed that my memory is so bad that I 100% remember it having a cornucopia. All my underwear were either Hanes or FOTL back then. I remember learning what a cornucopia was in class and recognizing it from my underwear. But of course none of this ever happened, but it feels so real.
I'd never seen the fruit of the loom brand until this video and didn't even know what a cornucopia was. But it seems more balanced with it like it's obvious to have some brown basket thing in the logo to contrast with all the lively fruit.
Same here, except it actually will happen in the future when I start to missremember my underwear purchases due to the sheer amount of information I consumed in this video and in the comment section. My body is ready.
Sounds like mass-suggestion - some initial audio statement (either broadcast, in printed word or via word-of-mouth) painted a concrete visual - virtually the same visual all-around - in peoples' minds. This in turn cemented the image in everyone's brain individually, and this then took reign in the brain as the "official" memory. This was akin to the Star Wars / Empire line, "Luke, I am your father," instead of the actual, "No - I am your father !" So after a year plus of amazement and wonder, this explanation seems somewhat believable and satisfying and at least STARTS to put the puzzle together.
And it looks like Mr. Larke again has just (partially) solved the case! Here's what happened...(See previous paragraph). While it's still possible this theory is wrong or incomplete, I at least think it make the most sense so far, as a more complete paradigm begins to unfold...
Don't worry folks - no charge for this one, and my secretary Trixie will be glad to validate parking as you exit the office... ;-)
i was eight in a costco and i asked my mom what it was and she said that it was a loom, hence the name. I called the thing a loom for a very long time after that. I cant believe that it was never there. My memory seems so real and i can recall the picture in my mind. Weird.
I literally had a pack of fruit of the loom socks that had a logo with a cornucopia on it. Finally opened it and threw away the packaging around a week ago. I wish I could find it, but it's somewhere deep in the landfill now.
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Sam Garrett2021-11-09 09:21:08 (edited 2021-11-09 09:41:59 )
So I grew up in the 90s with Fruit of the Loom underwear and tees (from Walmart). I don't buy into the Mandela Effect at all because I suffered an illness as a teenager that messed up my memory for awhile, so I got a crash course on how faulty memories can be. However, I'm a visually-oriented person, and every time this logo thing came up, I couldn't ignore how much I thought I remembered the cornucopia. My first thought was that maybe Walmart was selling a knock-off brand, plus that cornucopia is in the same style of the generic clip art of the time. It's very likely that, if this was the case, the original logo we all saw has been lost to time.
Or we all just got collectively confused by some clip-art and our brains were like "that looks better, lemme just redesign that for you in your memory."
A neat trick is to ask people to draw a famous character like Batman or George Washington from memory in 1 minute. They don’t have time to look it up so they draw whatever comes to mind first. Illustrates this phenomenon nicely.
Here is something interesting, I am not familiar with the Fruit Of The Loom brand, but when I saw the logo with the cornucopia, it looked so natural, but when I saw the original logo after the old one, it looked like something was missing.
@Wowerine is he not allowed to be here? I thought YouTube was open to everybody over a certain age, why would you block one person from being able to be on a place open to most of the world, what is wrong with you?
I feel like this could be one of those things that showed up in a textbook that is widely remembered, Like how the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell... Like we saw it at some point and used it as a reference to remember other similar things.
I feel like we've just seen a lot of art with a cornucopia and some fruit in front of it, hence why so many people have the correlation lodged in their head.
I remember the cornucopia on the plastic package in the early 80s and specifically asking my parents what it was. They also said the leaves were fig leaves. Strangely I don't remember it being in the tags. Maybe it was holiday packaging.
This is great video, I do remember the cornucopia but I associated it with a supermarket brand I’ve never had a fruit of the loom underwear so I don’t know how I would remember the cornucopia logo or The fruit of the loom logo in general.
I always thought it was a seashell and now you tell me it never existed?! I even have a Fruit of the Loom sweater and that sweater was my favourite in my teens and early adulthood. Wtf man....
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T S2022-06-13 18:45:40 (edited 2022-06-13 18:59:09 )
Yeah. I got gifted a pair of underwear from Fruit of the loom as a child after seeing Stand By Me & loving the Fruit of the Loom Joke that's in it 🤣 BTW I'm Australian & there definitely was a cornucopia. I 100% remember this. Nobody can tell me different. Not a popular brand here at all, in fact they were brought back from the states for me. Don't think you could even get them here 35 odd yrs ago 🤷♂️
Ok but that jazz album cover from the 70s actually freaked me out. That means we’re almost at the 50 year mark of believing this cornucopia existed when we have ample evidence (i.e. any pair of fruit of the loom underwear) to show that it doesn’t.
I don’t think that’s the most logical interpretation of that album cover. It’s far more likely that the guy just wanted to put something music-related on the cover and thought that a cornucopia would fit well with the rest of the image.
@Dzhikhad Incorrect. I’m 13 and the video was the first ever time I’ve saw that album cover. However, I still remember the Cornucopia on the Fruit of the Loom Logo. That exact cornucopia drawing. I’m personally a believer of the “Seasonal Variant” Theory, where during autumn they sold a different logo on the underwear.
@🌟 Officer Soul Knight Unlikely. We have no material evidence of any kind that a variant was sold using the cornucopia. Our memories are more susceptible to suggestion than we think, it's very easy to convince someone they remember something that they actually do not. If enough people insist that they remember it with the cornucopia, then you might start remembering it that way too.
@EW B but the album cover features a distorted flute, not a cornucopia. The image wouldn't make any sense if it wasn't a reference to the shape of a pre-existing cornucopia, and it certainly wouldn't influence people into remembering a brown basket behind the fruit. There's no way it could be the source of the phenomenon, at least.
In I way I think you solved the mystery, or you at least have all the pieces. Totally convinced that its the way the apple looks in the center, specifically the stem. Reminds me of a lot of what's typically in the center in the horn of plenty images I've seen. Wonder what that apple looks like faded or maybe to somebody with color blindness.
that’s crazy that this phenomenon has been going on for 50 years. i’m starting to think there was a cornucopia and i didn’t even see it in the first place lmao
Either a lot of us did transition from some parallel dimension or timeline or Walmart took creative liberty with their advertising. I can see WalMart asking for high "fidelity" images from their closest underwear partnership and FotL just taking too long so Walmart has their marketing design team create one. Add that to regular fruit collections with baskets and cornucopias in art in the holiday season and you got another viable answer.
It's fantastic how Emp knows how to construct a consistently engaging documentary narrative from things as earthshaking as the Cold War to as mundane as an underwear logo. Not many creators have such versatility.
I just remember fruits man. I never remembered the Cone thing. Fruit/apple underwear we'd call it. Not an assortment basket of fruit underwear.
What's really weird to me is, "Life WAS like a box of chocolates" instead of Life IS like a box of chocolates from Forest Gump. It's either everyone didn't hear it right back in the day or some crazy shit happened. Because I remember everyone quoting it as IS instead of WAS.
I’m Brazilian but deeply into globalized American culture (yay!!), I swear I had absolutely no idea what were you talking about until you showed the version with the cornucopia. I immediately remembered it, I don’t know where it’s from, but i recalled having the distinct thought about how weird is having a logo with a cornucopia when I first saw it, but quickly dismissed it thinking it was just an American thing I couldn’t get. I swear we’re onto something here, there’s references about it, but literally it never existed? I never really understood the crase about the Mandela effect until now, I mean, some things are easy to forget or to get confused about (like Pikachu’s tail) but this?…
I decided to change the logo in 1994 as I found the horn distracting. As such, reality shifted and changed all physical examples to the current configuration while instilling a predilection of disgust with the object.
So shall it be.
I understand your disbelief. To provide circumstantial evidence, allow me to obliterate the molestation victims of Die Antwoord.
I find this whole discussion so strange, because I never-ever remembered seeing a cornucopia on the logo. The apple was always the top. I remember seeing cornucopias in other things, in children’s books and the like, but Fruit of the Loom was always a pile of fruit. I saw cornucopias in other things, from children’s books to November calendars. But never there.
In fact, when I heard people saw the cornucopia, I mentally pictured it from the left and up, not straight to the right, and had to readjust my mental image to process what it was people were seeing.
@logan H "froot loops spelled with o's instead of a u and I to avoid lawsuits. Hit it! Froot Loop Land, Froot Loop Land everybody sing along with the Froot loop band..."
I remember reading hunger games for the first time and that being the first time ever seeing the word ‘cornucopia’ and I remember thinking “oh it’s the loom thing on the fruit of the loom undies”
I always thought that the logo did have a cornucopia, but I now realize that it’s because a local supermarket chain has a strikingly similar logo to fruit of the loom, one which contains a cornucopia.
This is all very interesting, but at 4:00, how is it possible that "heatwave" is lower than "altarpiece" and "cornucopia" on the list of most common words?! I hear it all the time when it gets hot!
I've never seen or heard of a cornucopia outside the context of the fruit of the loom logo in my memory. I think I must've seen one with fruit when I was very young and just have no recollection of it at all
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Matt J2020-11-25 23:26:55 (edited 2020-11-25 23:34:23 )
The logo just looks like it should have a cornucopia on it. Frankly, it looks somewhat lacking without it. Seeing fruit coming out of a cornucopia is the most logical association you could make.
I totally agree. It seems like an easy mistake to make to me. Why would there just be a bunch of fruit in a pile and not in a cornucopia? Or a bowl? Or a tree? A hand? Anything!
I remember it, and I’ve never seen a cornucopia before, I just used to think it was a basket. It was the early 00’s, maybe there was an off brand company pretending to be Fruit of the Loom?
I think it's possible the "Flute of the Loom" album cover isn't a reference to the cornucopia but its origin. The artist wanted to add a flute to the logo to accompany the word play and chose to stylize it as a concucopia to fit the pile of fruit.
The cornucopia adds some disruptive assymmetry to the logo and I remember it to be almost symmetrical shapewise. To me it looks totally wrong with the cornucopia. I'm German and there are no brands (at least to my knowledge) that have a cornucopia in their logo, nor is it used that often elsewhere. As a kid I thought the logo was quite weird, especially for a t-shirt brand.
I had a similar experience. I too remember the horn being part of the logo. Then recently I purchased shirts of this brand and noticed the horn was gone. I assumed it was just a redesign. Watching this video about the horn never even existing was surprising.
I remember, as a kid, NOT KNOWING WHAT A CORNUCOPIA WAS, but figuring out what it was reading the Hunger Games and connecting it with the thing on the fruit of the loom tags.
The only explanation I can think of has something to do with Settlers of Catan. Honestly, I have no idea.
I think "of the" might be the culprit here. "Fruit of the Loom" implies they were produced from something, and since nobody knows what a "loom" is, people just assume there was a fruit-producing object in the logo. The artstyle always matches because that's the way the fruit is rendered.
More importantly this video makes me feel normal. I always felt like I had a bad memory and would fret about it a lot because we rarely admit to misremembering. This reminded me that I’m normal.
I am British and in my late twenties, and I also remember the cornucopia. I remember learning about it from Fruit of the Loom. Most Mandela effects don't get me, but this one really has.
I think this is way overthought out. Honestly the sign really just does evoke the cornucopia to me and I think it likely does for most of us even if we aren't fully conscious of it, and it seems very plausible (to the extent that it's almost obvious to me) that most of us are simply projecting that association onto the logo based on its resemblance at first glance to the extremely widespread cultural iconography that is the cornucopia.
I saw the logo with the cornucopia in a store in France while I was visiting there as a kid, I distinctly remember it standing out and it more big than shown in the video. I even talked to my parents about it about what it was. Pretty odd ngl.
I grew up in a household where both my parents worked at a big grocery chain store and I know a lot about brands. I remember asking about the Cornucopia and asking if that was the loom, and I also remember seeing it without it in the 2010s and thinking while they Musta took the cornucopia off their image for some reason, so I don’t know
This cannot be a coincidence that we all have memories as like toddlers in my case and seeing a cornucopia on one of there products and wondering wth we were looking at. How could I just imagine putting an object that I didn't know existed into something meanwhile not even knowing the name of it or the company. Fruit of the Loom has got to be trolling.
someone definitely time traveled and fucked with the timeline in 2021, so many people are saying they learned what a cornucopia was from the logo (i didn't, but so many people say that they did that it's oddly suspicious)
I feel pretty strongly that I want to say the cornucopia was only on things like packaging, the plastic bag the stuff came in, but that's... a really weird setup for them to have had. It might have to do with how the label interacted with the plastic and elements around it, the border around the logo and if and where the plastic became transparent. I think we'd want to look at a few original packages, either unopened or otherwise preserved, but that's a really unusual artifact to have stuck around all this time.
My theory is that the arrangement of fruit and leaves in the logo closely resemble the way fruits and leaves are arranged in drawings/decorations with cornucopias in them. And in general, what kind of basket comes to mind when a pile of fruit is seen as if sitting on a table? Why, the cornucopia, of course. Furthermore, it's more aesthetically suggested that the cornucopia go off to the right instead of the left, as the layers of the image progress towards the background from left to right, along with the way the purple grapes and the leaf behind it are sitting up so high as if propped up against something behind them to the right.
Doesn’t explain “flute of the loom” drawn in 1973 whose original artist has stated that the album cover was based on the fotl logo, you don’t need to be a genius to see that.
@Dp Not necessarily correct. If it was drawn from memory, the artist could have been subject to the same mental cues leading us to believe there was a cornucopia in the logo. I think the word loom also plays a part; as a child, I thought a cornucopia was called a loom because of the brand name Fruit of the Loom. But I can't recall ever seeing the logo with a cornucopia, as I don't remember well at all from never paying enough attention for it to stand out in memory. But I did think it had one in it.
Alot of things have changed, simple explanation is, every action has a reaction, someone's been messing with things far above their pay grade, I'm quite sure it's to do with time distortion, but it could be anyone of a thousand things.
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Random Person2021-07-03 01:10:07 (edited 2021-07-03 01:13:49 )
The thing is I don't remember seeing the cornucopia but the more I see it the more correct it feels although I know it's wrong.
Does anyone not remember going into a store like Winn-Dixie back in the day & see them doing special signs for sales? I swear, I’ve seen Fruit-Loom logo on a huge cardboard sign with the brown thing in the background. I swear.
One thing missed was in the 1990’s in the UK there was (and still is with other brands) a HUGE market of fake clothing. There were loads of market stalls selling fake FOTL T-shirts and many of them actually had the cornucopia on the label. I personally had a selection of them in different colours. It was a plain T just with the logo on the label and left side of the chest. I’ve probably still got an old grey one in the spare room or garage storage box’s.
This is crazy because I simply remember it changing overnight or at least with you know I noticed it and that year I went from the cornucopia to nothing and I didn't think too much of it I just thought that they changed their logo you know people do that all the time so weird like a lot of Mandela effects creep me out but this one specifically makes life seem off to me and I'm starting to question whether or not we are living in a simulation or somehow history is changing in a blink of an eye
@Guaco me? You look familiar yourself tbh lol You on any furry media? I also frequent StoryFire and for a little bit was fairly active on Twitch as well. Or maybe on furry_irl?
The spelling for Burndstein Bears, or what the heck ever its supposed to be, is another perennial favorite of the "remembering it wrong" genre.
Also I am absolutely baffled at EmpLemon here for not recognizing that "pile of fruit" might just get crossed over with "funny shaped basket" from all our Thanksgiving years and Christmas fruit baskets, and instead makes the dizzying leaps of logic to color theory and copyright symbology. Like, people are dumb sometimes, okay? You don't need a special theory for it.
That’s exactly what happened to me as a child I learned what a cornucopia was from the logo my mom told me. You say you remember things you find interesting and unique when I was a kid that’s exactly how I felt about the cornucopia because it was a new object I had never seen or heard before.
I thought it had a cornucopia but showed both logos to my mom and said which logo is fruit of the loom and she pointed to one without cornucopia. The creepiest part is the 3 pieces of media that purposely have a cornucopia in the logo. It's like they are purposely messing with our minds. 3 different decades, 3 different media with logos depicting a cornucopia!?! Cmon this one is WEIRD!!
Anybody else remember a couple reddish brown maple (?) Leaves behind the fruit? I distinctly remember them where the cornucopia is usually pictured, not on either side like the brown leaf version.
5:50 is the most interesting. Because why would he have the flute positioned in such a way? If the original image (that he is parodying) never had the cornucopia, then why would he randomly make the flute behind the fruit look EXACTLY like one?
Thank you! I would believe that we are all just misremembering it if it wasn't for the physical evidence that was shown from the past. Surely the artist that drew the parody looked at the original while he was painting!!! Why would the artist introduce this new feature into the parody? I am baffled.
@liquid Because he was also under the mandala effect? This phenomenon isn't a recent thing, its just that we only realized its effects in full recently due to the internet.
@liquid Because it's an easy way to make the image about music. Why would the artist making a musical parody of a logo not put anything in it related to music?
@GemGen But it isn't 100% accurate even without the cornucopia/flute. There are turnips, cabbage, squash, and what looks like some kind of meat, whereas the logo is all fruits.
Because it's warping in from a distance. It was a common visual effect on old album covers. It's just a coincidence that it looks like how we remember the logo.
Maybe that parody WAS the one that introduced the cornucopiflute and that's where the others actually get their memories from? It was reasonably famous enough to start the whole thing.
Ok, I have some interesting data. In the Mandela Effect subreddit, a user did their best to find the person who designed that album cover, but the person was unable to answer directly so they talked through their son. The response? The son said that his father said that he based the Flute 100% on the cornucopia on the logo. He said that he tried to parody the position of the horn of plenty like it was a flute. And that it would not have made sense if the logo didn't had a horn. He said that he watched the logo very closely while painting the album cover. I can send you guys the post or you can look it up, it's very interesting.
I learned about cornucopias in elementary school around thanksgiving, i wonder how many people who remember the cornucopia are from the US and got cornucopia shown to them in school
The cornucopia as a theme has always been associated with fruit since antiquity. The autumnal connection is a purely american one, by way of Thanksgiving. As a continental european, imagining a horn of plenty, i see varied produce and grains, but definitely with fruit as a major part.
I am pretty late on this, but I am NOT from the US. During a trip to Greece in 2004 I came across a t-shirt I loved, it was from Fruit of the Loom. I remember seeing some fruit on the tag and never paid much attention to it other than the shirt having great cotton fabric. I am SURE I have seen a cornucopia even though at the time I had no clue on what it was. Very odd Mandela effect.
you know. the real fruit of the loom logo looks empty without the cornucopia. it just looks right with it added in. people probably felt like something was missing and later filled in something that matched the theme of the logo
i think one of the reasons ppl in the comments feel like the cornucopia fits is because 1) the design is more proportional and balanced and 2) the icon/picture of the cornucopia that you used was adapted to fit the logo’s drawing style. the shadows and colors match. if no one had created this picture to add to the discussion, and instead we’d be using eg. photograph cutouts as pictures, people would not be as easy to jump on the idea that there was an actual cornucopia behind the fruits. i think our brains just immediately enjoy the aesthetics.
I feel like we've all misremembered this logo. But I know people who have remembered it as different things. I remember there being a harp. Two of my friends remembered an actual loom depicted behind the fruit. And then my other two friends remember a cornucopia. None of us remembered just fruit. I also feel stupid for thinking it would have been a harp. Why the fuck would I think they'd put a harp on a logo about fruit? Honestly this is the only time I'm at a loss of explaining a mandela effect. I am absolutely stumped.
@0 why not? when you're not paying attention, the brain pretty much makes up what's there (to some extent), and recent experiences/weird connections could make them think of a harp for some reason
@0 I never remembered this logo having a cornucopia. But after watching this I can't not think about it. I thought it was a bundle of fruit displayed on some grape vine.
@0 i bet the answer is just that the logo genuinely looks like it's missing something, from a design perspective, so on recollection people instinctively add whatever they think would fill out the logo
a cornucopia adds shape and color to the logo while making thematic sense, so it's the most common addition
I don't remember any of this shit like the cornucopia (probably because I'm not American) but if you asked me to draw this logo from memory I would definitely have drawn some bananas.
Fruit of the Loom is lying to us. I’m certain we’re not crazy how could so many people remember something the same totally random cornucopia without it ever being there.
We don’t really get fruit of the loom clothes where I live so I hadn’t seen the logo until I came across it in context of the Mandela effect - and yet even for me the cornucopia version just looks right, and the real logo looks empty like something is missing
Over time, some of the green leaves could fade into a brownish colour with multiple washes, to the same shade of the basket thing. I reckon that this is the cause of the anomaly.
I had three FotL shirts as a kid so it's more than possible that my memory is at fault. But I remember the fruit being placed in a basket, not cornucopia. The reason why I remember it after all those years is that the logo was very small and I never inspected it much. I always thought it was just a picture of various colored balls of wool placed in a basket and one day I was looking at it closer and I realized it was a fruit in a wool basket and suddenly it made a perfect sense to me. But now I don't know. Also, we were extremely poor so they might have easily been knock-off shirts. Which is the most rational explanation for the cornucopia misconception as well.
Frank Guy2020-11-27 06:46:34 (edited 2020-11-27 06:48:44 )
@DrTocan "They" doesn't even make sense here, what are you on about?
"Don't forget they actually named "Jiffy" Cornbread mix" ? What?
The comment reads to me like "Don't forget the ACTUALLY named "Jiffy" Cornbread mix" with emphasis on Actually to show how it is actually named Jiffy, whereas our memory is incorrect, and no peanut butter was ACTUALLY named Jiffy. I think you just misunderstood the sentence. Unless you are adding words and rearranging sentences to make them make sense "Don't forget THEY actually named Cornbread mix 'Jiffy'"
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Who drew that cornucopia in that style though? I feel like I have seen that “infamous” drawing, maybe not in a store or something, but definitely online.
im not even from the country that fruit of the loom markets at, but since my dad own one of those shirts growing up. i remember that cornucopia horn thing on the tag explicitly.i remember having an entire confersation in my head about it and its so weird....i still own that shirt and just when i knew people werent sure of the horn things existence i went back to the shirt and it wasnt there
i didnt even knew thanksgiving was a holiday, or what it was even called. i just assumed it was a horn and was called a loom...
come on man, here i am binge watching a creator who i have only just recently found and he just has to bring up the fact that my beloved falcons choked away that lead 😭 i’ll never escape this hell
@12345 678 That would be the most logical answer but if you search for old old pictures of the fruit of the loom logo you’ll notice that no one picture has a cornucopia in it. So, it’s very weird how not one person on the earth has a single picture of the fruit of the loom logo with a cornucopia. So obviously “12345 678” that’s not the answer to this mandala affect.
okay well you have to consider that especially in American tradition, even if the word cornucopia isn't thought of, the brown basket is simply commonly associated with arrays of food like on the logo of fruit of the loom. Though the word is uncommon, the object is a recognizable part of thanksgiving tradition and it could have just been associated with the logo since it is an array of food.
...never heard of fruit on the loom, the fruits and the weird thingy as I like to call it is an entirely different brand. I imagine looking up brands in Asia cause I cannot be asked
While the Berenstain/Berenstein Bears Mandela Effect has never resonated with me (I totally get how kids back in the day looked over the name and forever commit the wrong name to memory, certain that it was always that way), this one has hit me hard in recent years. I swear I remember that damn cornucopia in the Fruit of the Loom logo, I swear it was always there, I didn't need any video to call attention to it, I have clear as day memories of seeing that cornucopia, that seems far harder to misremember than an 'e' instead of an 'a' in a last name.
I personally remember that 8 used to come before 7. Yes I was very young and a mistaken tick of a teacher might have caused it but it's still very weird.
maybe you could explain this with something similar to mass hysteria ? one person incorrectly remembers it and hearing someone else recall so vividly something they remember makes you think back and add false details to memories? every time you recall a memory from your long term memory you remember it correctly less and less each time. similar to mass hysteria
I swear sometime in elementary school they made us colour what looked like the fruit of the loom with the cornucopia during thanksgiving and that’s why it’s in my memory.
same situation with me but then I went home and I asked my parents what that viking horn was suppose to be and they said it was a cornucopia. I asked like on the commercial (had no clue it was for underwear, I just new it involved a loom) ? They said yes. the memory was strong because they spend a long time helping me pronounce cornucopia and I proceeded to impress my friends and sisters by telling them the word every time I saw the image on TV.
i've never believed these "Mandala Effect" theories. i've always considered them to be stupid, pointless and an excuse for people to make excuses for their patchy, inconsistent memories.
which makes it all the more hilarious when I fall for one myself.
I remember fact-based videos with intrusive musical backgrounds that make you mute and CC the whole thing before giving up. And get this : NO ONE can tell you why Youtube content creators instinctively reach for this musical ketchup to pour onto their metaphorical steak of content.
We swapped memory for language early on, and it's literally the reason we're a social species; without consensus, not one of us would remember to get dressed in the morning.
My memory of learning of what a cornucopia is while reading The Hunger Games. I decided to look it up and I had the exact thought "oh like the old fruit of the loom" logo.
I just have very distinctive memories of being in the Walmart kids section when I was around five and looking at the display and that darn cornucopia was there 😭
okay i know emp explained it as the human brain just doesnt waste the time or energy to fully understand something that is so mundane and unimportant such as a branding on underwear, but honestly i think theres multiverses, because i cannot wrap my head around something so detailed, and unique just being made up.
I don’t think it never had a cornucopia I think what is happening is we associate piles of fruits and Vegatable with cornucopias from all the fall images of them and when we see the fruits we imagine a cornucopia. There is also some factor of the cornucopia looks like it fits and we never actually think about what it used to look like
Collocation - A collocation is made up of two or more words that are commonly used together in English.
‘fruit’ ‘loom’ and ‘cornucopia’
This is a language related compression of memory. The mystery isn’t about the logo. The mystery is that we would collectively correct the logo to match for our linguistic colocates. Thanksgiving festivals hark back to a time when looms and cornucopias were prevalent in daily life. People don’t think of today’s mechanical looms when they think of the word, the word loom single handedly brings the mind into a pre-industrialization context. A collection of fruit in the context of such a time would be related to a gathering of exuberance, and when we think of a pre-industrial celebration, our nearest frame of reference is thanksgiving holidays.
Quantum Immortality might explain this phenomenon. Basically the theory states that we can only perceive timelines or realities where we are in fact alive. It's possible that there was in fact a reality where minor differences occurred (fruit of the loom, bearenstain bears, shazam, etc), but this version of our reality was catastrophically destroyed via some asteroid or nuclear event that we have so conveniently avoided in our current timeline.
The F&G example may have been the most similar my memory can come up with . Whats weird is I completely and for sure know I remember seeing the logo and im 18 years younger than my mother but she remembers no such cornucopia absolutely maddening
In second grade I learned the word cornucopia in class and the teacher brought up the fruit of the loom logo when she explained it to us. I specifically associate it with that logo and can't imagine another cornucopia kids at that time would be familiar with.
Berenstein bears were definitely spelt stein. I've asked multiple people who don't know about the mandela effect how to spell it and they always say and remember it as stein. 100%. As for some of the other examples, I cant say for sure but that one I remember for sure.
I definitely remember the logo having the cornucopia. I had an plain white tshirt that still had it up until a few years ago. I remember asking what happened to the cornucopia and having a conversation about the commercial with the people dressed like the fruit and thinking the cornucopia wasn't in the commercial because the costume would be so lame. It's crazy this is a Mandela Effect. Super weird.
I think it's as simple as; the logo looks better with a cornucopia. People see the logo with a cornucopia painted behind it, and as it is more aesthetically pleasing, they prefer that version. People could easily lie about remembering or having conversations about the cornucopia and spread the idea further. Others could perhaps be remembering conversations about other Mandela effect items and confusing them with Fruit of the Loom as it is a popular topic.
The Pikachu one makes sense now because the female Pikachus' in games have a heart shaped tail, and in the remakes of generation 3 there is a special Pikachu you can dress up; her heart on her tail is black.
It's easily plausible that people could confuse the logo for having a cornucopia, considering they're mostly associated with food, but it's also not confused for being on other brand logos and packaging like Capri Sun, as in the video, because it'd look out of place on a Capri Sun label
Edit: NOT ME! I haven't used it in months, and it's great
"Meet the folks who remember New Zealand being in a different place," I've met them and here we just call them kids who didn't pay attention in geography.
There's surprisingly many world maps or illustrations that outright miss New Zealand (there's a subreddit for it and that made it into the and there was an IKEA map forgetting them in early 2019, that should be easy to find in the news archives). Who'll really notice if they shift up by a couple hundred kilometres? Hell, switch them with Japan and people won't even notice.
I feel like the cornucopia here is exactly like the monocle on the Monopoly Guy―traditional cornucopia imagery looks a lot like the Fruit of the Loom logo. It may not be as common an image today, but it somehow feels like it wasn't all that rare in Thanksgiving depictions a few years ago
the reason why this mandela effect baffles me so much is because i have a specific, very vivid memory related to it.
i was VERY young, i wanna say 2 or 3, maybe 4? i was in walmart with my mom and my older brother and i wandered off, still within the sight of my mom. at the end of the aisle my mom was in there was one of those lone cardboard stands filled w fruit of the loom underwear. i remember it being blue and plastered with the logo, cornucopia and all. my mom came over to grab some since that was the brand my brother wore. i asked my mom what the brown thing was and she said a cornucopia. that was too big of a word for me though, so i dubbed it the loom since the brand name was FRUIT of the LOOM. it just seemed to make sense.
i asked my brother if he remembered the cornucopia and he said he did. when seeing the current logo he literally exclaimed “what the fuck?” and honestly same. i personally believe that the logo may have been a seasonal variant, as i remember on that specific shopping trip we were shopping for back to school, in the fall. though i do have other memories of the altered logo beyond that one shopping trip, the story i told is the most vivid. i just. really don’t know. i’m positive this happened.
I must not have come from the alternate timeline where there was a cornucopia - because when i first saw the side-by-side it struck me as out of place.
"We tend to remember whatever we find important, fascinating, or unique". How appropriate you put a clip of Ultimate Showdown with this, back in the day I could recite pretty much the entire thing and it became as likely to pop up at our parties as Disney songs or other early viral songs when drinks started to flow.
While I think the Mandela Effect is totally bunk, there's an excellent X Files episode written by Darin Morgan that does an excellent job using it as a plot device called "The Lost Art of Forehead Sweat". Highly recommended.
The Monopoly guy one gets me. I could swear I remember him with a monocle, and in Ace Ventura they make a Monopoly guy joke that involves a dude with a Monopoly guys.
I swear there was a cornucopia in the Fruit of Loom logo that just looked EXACTLY like the one you use in the video so I don't know how it can be so accurate but yet not exist. Like I feel the whole universe has bend backwards to just gaslight us.
However, when you've got a few tens of thousands of people all remembering an identical and specific object each on an individual basis with no collusion between them including multiple creators of popular media throughout multiple decades referencing this misremembered piece (all of these references being made before this was even a popularized "conspiracy"), going "lol human brain dum" seems just a bit lacking...
Not to mention the unbelievably large number of people who will swear up and down there's a cornucopia meanwhile I've never seen a single person volunteer to swear on their mothers soul no cornucopia existed (save for Fruit of the Loom themselves). You'd think that if there truly wasn't one at least ONE person would come out and say "yeah I remember spending an hour staring at the logo once as a kid cause I was dumb and bored and there totally wasn't a cornucopia."
Nobody anywhere that I've seen has been prepared to swear to the "true" logo, meanwhile there's an endless stream of people willing to swear to the exact same non-existent one.
@Trevor Valance If anything that just proves that human brains are unreliable in similar ways. Maybe if our memories inserted random nonsense into memories you would be correct, but it's more likely that some common thread leads people to misremember the logo in a similar way
@PyreGnome Why would thousands of people just make up a random object of a popular logo. I can see miss spelling of the bear stain bears. Or mirror mirror on the wall. But a random object that thousands of random strangers remember is kind of hard to explain. Some people even learned about the cornucopia from the logo so...
With so many comments on this video, I doubt anyone will see this, but I just wanted to share something. In response to this video I googled trying to see if there were any logos from my past similar to fruit of the loom that may be just not be nationally known enough for you to mention. I didn’t find any. However, I found a bunch of cornucopia drawings that very much reminded me of the fruit of the loom logo. I think that might be what’s going on here. We see a bunch of cornucopia drawings that look similar to the logo and gradually start to conflate the two
If there never was an actual cornucopia on the logo why would millions of people falsely associate drawings of fruit in a cornucopia with a random logo that has just fruit on it, the cornucopia is such an obvious and specific detail that it makes it a huge stretch to assume that drawings of fruit with a cornucopia would be associated with the logo that just has fruit on it, when people think of piles of fruit nobody automatically imagines them being in cornucopias and even if they did it still doesn’t explain why people are “misremembering”
I asked my mom what that thing at the back was while we were purchasing socks. She remembers being embarrassed because she couldn’t answer and told me it was a loom. I think it was on one poster at Wal-Mart or Ames.
I feel like a fact a lot of people look over when it comes to the Mandela effect is the media bias, certain misrememberings are present all throughout TV and can greatly influence memories.
Human memory is straight up terrible, almost everything you see everywhere influences your memory of everything else, because it’s a monky brain designed to recognize predators. I’m sure 99% of the people claiming to have seen the cornucopia logo just saw some Thanksgiving clip art that looked similar
Sometimes i feel like in the late 1990s early 2000s we all missed a new story talking about how "the name of [brand name here] mysteriously changed to [close to brand name here] yet it was never [brand name here]" then the government was like "maybe we shouldn't talk about this" and we've only been noticing personally meaningful things here and there.
Idk man. I’ve seen a lot of cornucopias with fruit in them as a kid wether in school or on the internet. There’s a good chance that we see that fruit in that kind of order and just assume it to be there.
it's wild to me that people would rather believe "there's multiple universes and they got mixed up" over the obvious reality of "we just misremembered the same stuff that seems obvious"
In my mind a lot of the “Mandela effects” is like the winners/warehouse store brand of everything where someone mistyped one thing once and sold it to those places for bulk
Because most of the Mandela effects are products where someone saw and remember a certain look of a brand because it was a cheap version of it and majority of people never really notice the basic logo of the actual product
The phrase “fruit of the loom” makes people wonder what a loom is and why fruit is in it. Then they assume that a loom is that weaved cornucopia thing. Cornucopias also have fruit in them for some reason. 2+2=false memories.
The version I remember had the regular small fruits you see here, but then a big honkin' banana defying gravity and rising out of the center of them (well it leaned slightly left). I'm pretty sure that was a parody, though. Possibly Mad Magazine or Cracked?
Maybe a graphic designer wanted to show "I remember it as X" / was commissioned to draw it ("hey, Joe. Can you draw that logo? But with a c …corn … horn of plenty behind?").
I wonder if there was one really prominent either parody or reference to fruit of the loom in mass culture that first included the cornucopia and then lead to everyone referencing that. Sort of like the nickname for Jim in Huck Finn, who is never actually named anything but Jim. There's one sentence where he is identified by the n word, but more as a label of his job and not capitalized as if it was part of a Proper noun. A prominent essayist actually coined the nickname way later and that name stuck.
I didn't know what a cornucopia was until I seen my fruit of the loom underwear as a kid, and when I did see it, my stupid kid self thought the cornucopia was a big Bugel chip and I wondered why they would use a big chip mixed with fruit for a logo.
The fruit of the loom may never have had a cornucopia, but the original logo had a brown table visible under the fruits… that feels weirder and even LESS satisfying to me
i never got any of these effects except for when my friend said that blue from blues clues was a boy, and when i went online to prove that blue was a girl and magenta was a boy, i lerned they were apparently both girls. even though i watched blues clues until i was 16 with my little brother, and i always thought it was cool how the pink dog was a boy and the blue one was a girl.
I’m not sure about all the Mandela effects, but I have a memory of shopping in target with my mom when I was little and asking what that thing was on the fruit of the loom logo and her saying that it’s a cornucopia. I know that happened.
I think the problem is...I know for a fact I have memories that aren't mine. meaning...there are things that I'll see, or someone will say something of their own memory, that supposedly included me, or I'll read sometninf...and I'm like, "oh, I remember that" but I honestly 100% honestly do NOT remember it. memory only having a piece of what was said or read or whatever. of course I remember I played basketball last year in the park on a pretty clouded day...after you tell me we wwre there. is it ME remembering or is it my mind picturing what you said, and placing it in a frame that I feel like is a past experience?
I enjoy being as honest as I can with myself. I WANT to know everything and remember all things, but I have to be honest. There are things that I only have a picture of based on someone else's testimony. ot my own clear memory.
You probably just heard SOMWONE ELSE say something like that....and you searched your memory for a time you questioned about that underwear logo...but it wasn't about a cornucopia. it was probably JUST a random question...mixed with someone else saying they saw a cornucopia...and your memory honestly don't even picture the fruit even. like, on your own, you probably don't even remember seeing the fruit. you just remember a question with your mother...and you theb inserted the testimonial thoughts of others, and created that image with the cornucopia into your own past thoughts.
I don't think the counterarguments starting at around 04:20 stand up. Half the pictures on that google image search have green and purple grapes, which fall outside the red-brown color palette that the cornucopia was supposedly restricted to seconds later. I found all of those images immediately reminiscent of the FotL logo, which is likely how the memory got suggested (I'm sure similar pictures popped up during school Thanksgiving projects, just as one example).
The Capri Sun images did not have the same reminiscence at all to me. I suspect it's a combination of the lack of color variety, the physical arrangement of the fruit, or the existing background details (splashing water).
I see a lot of people theorize that the reason why they remember the cornucopia being there is because they saw that object a lot throughout their childhood during Thanksgiving, but here’s my take… I am from Poland, we don’t have Thanksgiving, and I also vividly remember the logo always having that cornucopia being there. In fact, I don’t think I ever see that object anywhere else except when relating to the Fruit of the Loom logo. When my parents were children, Poland was still mostly under communist influence, and “less technologically developed” than neighboring countries that benefited from things like, I dunno, American TV. Yet my parents also vividly remember a cornucopia in the logo. A cornucopia is something they strictly associate with the Fruit of the Loom logo… So this is a seriously strange phenomenon.
I think the golden ratio may be playing a role here. A lot of people agree that the logo looks better with the horn. Describing it as being a more “complete” image. I think the logo is more visually appealing to the human brain with an object about that size in that area.
The entire video is trying to tell me I misremembered it. I did not misremember it.
My school bus drove by a large sign of Fruit of the Loom with the cornucopia in it every single morning and I sat in the same spot seeing it every morning and wondering if it was edible, if it was made out of bread, and what it tasted like. I remember it the exact same way everyone else does. I remember thinking it was just a larger form of those cornucopia shaped corn chips you can fit your fingers in.
The only explanation that I can come up with without questioning reality is that it was an incorrect artistic recreation that added a cornucopia for whatever reason.
But I will repeat: I did not misremember it being there. Yet, 3/4 of this video is about the author alleging it's a false memory and as such I will call this video for what it is: a low effort clickbait.
artist rendition. and. ot to mention you were. a child CLEARLY of an age that didn't quite understand what it was. you could've easily imagined that...and that's what stuck in your memory. it COULD be that you saw it on an image somewhere else. as kids, we try to relate things. I'm 37 and STILL whenever I see fruit and vegs one or other or both, laid out on a table or platter, I see a "ghost image" of a cornucopia. have been doing. that since I learned what it was in kindergarten...Thanksgiving nonetheless. I've done that wjth fruit of the loom as well. I just slap the image on theere. I don't see it so much as tmjust think, "eh..could be a cornucopia there" as someone so young, you probably did what I did, and your mind went off on a tanget about it. completely normal for a child of that age
yea same, i physically gasped when I saw it wasn't there, because unlike all the other Mandela effects, this one is really different. I haven't really heard of a cornucopia before I knew of the brand, yet I so distinctly remember it with one.
@The Horizon there's also too much evidence that there's some basis for it. even the screenshot of the dms with the corporate account says some of them remember it
If anyone can do some research, in 2007 i attended a show in south africa where a band from USA called mad caddies played. I purchased a zip up hoodie with their logo printed in blue and white. I have never in my life seen the fruit of the loom logo before that day but im pretty sure this hoodie had that logo on the inside and i was fascinated by it. I have lost the hoodie but many other people who went to watch the band bought those hoodies
The bear thing isn't actually just about the suffix. Some people remember it wrong because there was apparently a knock-off version that used the different spelling. A few people have posted pictures of them online.
This one scares me, because when I realized there was never a cornucopia, I'm pretty sure I was alone. I just found out looking at my underwear one day. It just wasnt there
I remember buying some new shirts and seeing it without it. I was like, "huh, they removed the cornucopia." I cannot be convinced that it was not there.
I don't think the Sun Maid logo having the same legal code cancels out the possibility of a cornucopia in Fruit of the Loom's, or at least it isn't a solid example. You claim that code just gets attached to piles of fruit, which maybe it does but the example you show doesn't support that statement. The code relates to "baskets of fruit; containers of fruit; cornucopia" the sun maid is holding a very shallow woven basket, that's what she's carrying the grapes in. I also can't see something that's specifies "baskets of fruit; containers of fruit; cornucopia" being applied to just a pile of fruit when the Sun Maid's code alone shows two different examples each for bonnets, circles, and triangles. Why would you have two separate codes for bonnets but none for a loose pile of fruit? That doesn't make sense.
I'm honestly not where I side, I don't remember the logo that well to begin with. What I do find interesting is why parodies would have a cornucopia if the original never did. Was it just adding that detail made it distinct enough that they would avoid getting sued? Was there a big enough parody of it that that's what people are remembering? Because I can see something on a big screen sticking with you better than a tag you see everyday in the back of your underwear.
My operating theory is that there was an influx of knockoff underwear being sold in Asian-owned dime stores and gas stations during the early 90s. Our family was poor then. If I’m right you’ll find these commonalities: The people who remember the cornucopia were poor in the early 90s, or bought cheap underwear. I recall those briefs wore out quickly and were painful to wear. I distinctly remember the cornucopia.
I think it looks correct because there IS a logo with fruit coming out of a cornucopia. I even remember it was facing the same way, opening to the left. I can't remember what it is though. I thought it was the Country Mart logo but no...
Out of everything in this video, I’m confused on how cornucopia is used more than heatwave
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Jacob Kinsley2021-08-26 06:27:31 (edited 2021-08-26 06:29:10 )
When I saw the thumbnail my first thought was "wait, does the logo have a cornucopia in it? I thought it was just fruit, am I going insane??? There was never a cornucopia..."
Growing up in europe, i connect cornucopias with greek history and making wine out of grapes. And theres grapes in the logo. I didn't have any fruit of the loom clothes as a kid, so i dont remember which version it should be. But it feels like the case with the monopoly man. I, at least connect the fruits in the pic to cornucopia.
I think this video has some sort of cognitohazard in it, because I used to think it had the cornucopia, but now that I've watched this I can't remember ever thinking it had it except when this is playing.
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C L2022-01-23 11:44:55 (edited 2022-02-04 14:12:04 )
Isn't this very adequately and simply explained, by people seeing OTHER images—with the same motif as the FotL-logo—featuring a fucking corn-dog?
it might be that the company is called “fruit -of the-“ implying that the fruit is in or from something, and a cornucopia is easier to imagine than say a basket because it’s more lowkey, being positioned behind the fruit
additionally, a loom is thought of as a very old piece of technology from the days of american cottage industry, and that time period coincides perfectly with the original thanksgiving era we associate cornucopias with
I live in England and the fruit of the loom shirts was what all schools used as there uniforms in the 90s I definitely remember the cornucopia I remember it because I thought it was a bread roll 😂
Okay so I have a mildly strange theory here but... I think that the logo exists--I'm positive even. To be honest, I think the effect isn't that the logo never existed but that it's just us--people--combining the logos of two different companies.
I remember learning what cornucopias were around Thanksgiving time back when I was in grade school, and that same afternoon we had one of my FAVORITE events--our librarian did magic shows for us and then we got to pick out a book. That afternoon was a bit weird and new because our teacher challenged us to find all of the seasonal cornucopias we could in the room, and I vividly remember finding that logo and trying to turn it in and the teacher finding it funny.
And honestly, at first I am very willing to jump on the ship that it was indeed a FoTL logo but the more I think about it, the more I remember it having to do with the library itself. I couldn't place why until it hit me after like, an hour.
I wonder if maybe there's a logo for a publishing company or something that has fruit that looks uncannily like the fruit in the FoTL logo? Cornucopias aren't all that different when you look at different paintings of them, so it's not implausible to me.
I'm going to try and dig into this theory, but it's a needle in a haystack that may or may not even exist.
I SWEAR that there is a cornucopia on Fruit of the Loom clothes in the 2000’s. I remember thinking “what is that thing? is that the loom? fruit of the loom?” Of course it’s hard to find it, who is going to keep their fruit of the loom shirts from the early 2000’s? It’s in the trash!
no I really believe it was on knock offs. it would make sense why i remember using the packaging as a reference to draw one for a thanksgiving school project. my grandma always shopped at places that sold cheap knock offs for our clothes. they might have been from mexico.
I'd be curious if anyone outside of North America has experienced this? My guess is people are just associating a fruit display with a thanksgiving cornucopia.
Im from Germany. I've never seen Fruit of the Loom underwear but we've had a tote bag from them when I was a kid. Definitely with cornucopia. I'll habe to find it, maybe they printed a different logo on their underwear versus other products.
I can understand things like Mandela and Kazaam, and I don't believe in universe-sliding or conspiracies, but I am 100% positive it was Beren_stein_ Bears. I explicitly remember getting into an argument about it with another kid in elementary school when we watched the cartoon (he couldn't read well). I don't know how so many people can have "wrong" memories, but there must be something to it.
The only reason I know about this company and why I clicked on this video was because I noticed two shirts I used to have had their logo, and now I'm apparently going down a rabbit hole that will change the way I perceive the world around me forever.
Ok i just figured out Shaws had a logo with a cornucopia shape in one of its signs i didnt think about it but i think its probably the closest thing i can relate to the cornucopia in the fruit of the loom logo.
I had a similar experience with Tyler the creator's album cover wolf were there's a bee, squirrel, and frog on a rock, I swear they didn't use to be there but they are
I believe the reason we thing there’s a cornucopia in the logo is because it’s brown. When you look at the fruits alone it feels like there’s something missing. The brown from the cornucopia fills the missing colors and makes the drawing feel complete. That’s the art of making good art. Something that feels complete. But since there’s no cornucopia, the logo feels off and unfinished
There was a cornucopia, I refuse to believe it wasn't there. I remember seeing the tag in my underwear when I was little. If many people remember it being there, It had to of been at some point.
But rusty, I’m a zoomer (turning 12 next month :)) and I know so much from before I was born!!! You are generalizing!!! Also I love your knife game videos please make more haha I’ve been watching you since I was 2 :) <3
@jonas1015119 That's the joke, no one born after 1980 would recognize him as anything but the 40th president. And it's a joke that was done on Family Guy... Season 5 Episode 18.
Dwag im pretty sure zoomers would know about a lot of shit before 1999 with all the soulless nostalgia shilling of the 90s and 80s in pop culture as of late or it could be millenials idfk man
@Blaster .M Alot of my generation seems attracted to old media aswell as past events because we have easy access to it. The Nostalgia baiting is mainly for Millenials but falls flat.
@Mr. Dead Memes So I am an old millennial born in 81 and I did some research and the fruit of the loom logo never had a cornacopia. I was convinced that it did...but now I realized that it never did.
at a time i thought it had a cornucopia. looking at it now, the cornucopia seems very out of place in there. either way, i remember seeing it, but i swear it was on the left instead of the right.
Honestly, it's probably memory conflation, just not with a similar brand. Fruit of the loom's logo is simplistic and brightly colored, similar to a children's drawing in alot of way. Every year around thanksgiving, young school children are made to color thanksgiving themed pictures, mostly with an assortment of primary colors. It isn't crazy to think that people are conflating the colorings they made as children with a similarly colored logo.
Yeah, and paintings of fruit in cornucopia were plenty, paintings in general are not hot right now but if they were, people would notice they're conflating the two. Me personally, I believe there were some holiday specific logos and the holiday season is when kids are dragged off to buy clothes and gifts in the first place.
It's amazing how people would rather believe they somehow ended up in an alternate universe, where something mundane and simple is different, and not just that they remembered it wrong, because some other people corroborate their story. Never mind that talking about it in an authoritative manner can cause other people to start remembering things differently, making this an unreliable metric.
For example, there was a fairly large study done at one time where people were TOLD they say Bugs Bunny at Disneyland as a child. Bugs Bunny has NEVER been a mascot at Disneyland. Many of the participants had never even been to Disneyland in the first place. And somehow, MOST of them were convinced that it happened. Some merely by bringing up the subject, others by the researchers simply being assertive. Only a very small number of people needed a doctored photo (the child in the picture wasn't even the participant).
Ockham's Razor states that the simple and obvious solution is more often than not the correct one. So what's a simpler explanation? That human memory is flawed, or that our minds somehow ended up in another quantum reality?
yes, human memory may be flawed, as shown in many other mandela effects where we combine similar things or associate them with common things (curious george is a monkey and monkeys usually have tails, sinbad the sailor marathon + kazaam = shazaam, a dash in kit kat just seems logical) but as said in this video, this is different. why would we remember a very uncommon object in the logo if it's the result of our flawed memory? so many people say they remember first learning what it was from the logo, how could they have randomly substituted it in if they didn't know what it was before then?
As an artist, I can tell you that IF there was a cornucopia in this logo, it would be facing the other direction.
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Sad Platinum2021-11-07 01:03:26 (edited 2021-11-07 01:06:11 )
Bro I don’t normally believe in these Mandela Effect things but this one is tripping me out fr. I distinctly remember the cornucopia, and learning what it was after I mistook of for a seashell when asking my parents about it as a kid. Wild shit. I think the most likely explanation is that it was really another logo for a different product, and my memory couldn’t remember what it was, so it associated the memory with a similar logo I do remember, and then this same thing has just happened to a ton of people
I mean I see how people can add the cornucopia to the logo accidentally. Especially during thanksgiving you might think of a variety of fruits or vegetables, or hell even both in a cornucopia.
Children in the USA were and are very familiar with the image of a cornucopia. During Thanksgiving season, many of the activities they did in elementary school were laden with Thanksgiving imagery, which generally included cornucopias.
This would lead to those children associating piles of fruits and vegetables with cornucopias in the same way that they associate monocles with the rich. That would mean that this situation is not dissimilar from the one with the Monopoly Man.
@Go_Rilla26 I'm actually almost certain that's what my memory of asking what that horn thing is. I don't recall having FotL underwear, but I can easily see children associating a pile of plant-grown food with the Thanksgiving decoration after finding them so strange.
I got internet access until 12, and learnt more fluent English until 18, this year is the first time I've seen that the cornucopia wasn't there (at 23 yo), even though I do see conspiracy videos this year was the first time I saw this being a thing and it really caught my attention because I remember seeing it when I was a kid, not only that but growing up I realized that the logo didn't have the cornucopias 'anymore', but never knew that they didn't exist because as I said, I do remember seeing them in my childhood 🤨
I had no way of being influenced by american culture when I was younger, no one in my family speaks English, I started learning on my own (14) thanks to internet culture.
I don't want to come off as rude or anything, I'm only saying that I'm in another country, with no american culture influence, and yet here I'm, remembering the cornucopia, even though I called it 'la trompeta café' or 'cuernito' because I didn't know what a cornucopia was until this year. Anyways, have a nice day, be safe ✌️
I remember some company with it and it was funny cause they were trying to copy froot of the loom but there was no point since froot of the loom was cheaper
I have a shirt from Fruit of the Loom and the fruit logo does not have the cornucopia BUT it does have beige/brown leaves behind the fruits which sort of looks like a cornucopia at a glance. So maybe that could be something?
Wait until someone reads this and realises that every single clip of the Simpsons in this video (and all of EmpLemon's videos) are actually hue-shifted 44% forward towards green.
This is so wierd because I literally learned what the word cornucopia meant by asking my dad what that horn on the fruit of the looms logo when I was a kid. I'm not into conspiracies but I'm not crazy either
You're likely just getting some wires crossed. Throughout elementary school every kid sees and draws cornucopia stuff with fruit pouring out. I specifically remember it not being on the tag because I was trying to figure out what the hell a loom had to do with fruit.
And then there's me not even knowing they were an underwear brand. I've only ever seen the brand on t shirts - mostly custom ones or merch ones if I remember correctly. Though, these could even be knockoffs
I mean, has anyone considered the idea that because the logo itself is tiny and we barely spend a few seconds looking at it in detail that everyone just kinda ended up conflating it with the thanksgiving cornucopia anyway?
6:15 Is one of the reasons why people think there was one in the Fruit of the Loom logo. They've seen it and then associate that with the original image when in reality there never was one on the original logo. Just these knock off ones.
The reason pikachu is remembered with a black tail is because in the video games pichu, the lower level version had a black tail. Only real gamers would get the mandela because they would conciously see one continuous character through the character designs. Furthermore, if you played the game with pikachu your brain is going to have a more familial connection with the black tip as thats YOUR pichu/ pikachu in your brain. Even more so with the proportion of people introduced to pokemon via the game vs anime, I beleive more millenial peoples, (Not Gen X or Y because they know pikachu more from the anime) when shown a side by side image of correct pikachu and black-tail pikachu, their brain is going to tend to recognize, and rather WANT to recognize the black tip pikachu more as its not only familiar but encouraging and reaffirming.
My first thought was that I didn't remember the cornucopia, but it started to look right to me the more I saw it. Something about it just feels intuitive enough to get lodged in people's memory, so you're probably right!
@Caleb Jablonicky just goes to show how easy it is to fool ppl. Just tell them things used to look a certain way and all of a sudden ppl start thinking that. It’s not very mysterious.
@S I remembered the cornucopia before I ever saw the Mandela effect version. I honestly have no idea how so many people could have the same experience, I remember wearing Fruit of the Loom underwear as a kid and wondering what that weird horn shape next to the fruit is. I'm not saying it's weird timeline shit but I don't know how to explain that memory and why so many others remember the same thing
@Hopplar memory is a composite. If someone talks about the cornucopia on the fruit of the loom label then u would naturally add it to ur past memory reservoir. If a person was talking about how their are only apples in the label then u would have been more likely to think that there is only apples in the logo. U don’t memorize random labels 100% correctly and in those margins memories can be slightly guided by the present.
Most people under 50 probably don't even know what a loom looks like. Especially since clothing manufacturing these days is mostly done by slave labor overseas.
So if those people are misremembering the logo then it isn't much of a stretch to misapply that term to it as well.
The change is a result of quantum dynamics. If you're familiar with the double slit experiment you can change the past. Observation can literally change the result of something after it has already occurred.
Another good example of this is people talking about humans producing power in the Matrix. Morpheus holds up a battery and says that what humans are used for by the machines. He then states the machines use a form of fusion for power generation. The scene was pretty clear, but so many people seem to have seen a completely different scene leaving them with the impression humans are used to generate power, rather than store it.
I don't think a lot of people who would be participating in these discussions would still have their childhood underwear from the mid-80's to show the tag off. That's the main problem. All the examples of tags shown are clearly more recent. That "conversation with your parents about what this object is?" is so specific. I remember it like that too, don't know what else to say.
i think it's most likely a case of the logo looking complete w/ the cornucopia so we just kinda automatically fill it in
tho, i do remember always thinking cornucopias were called looms when i was younger, even tho i don't rly remember the logo having a cornucopia? idk i don't think we had fotl stuff a whole lot tho
My mom painted a Pikachu on my wall when I was a kid, and it has a black stripe on the end of it's tail. The Pikachu in question came from some Pokemon pajamas that she traced off of.
There's a plaza near me with a logo that looks like the fruit of the loom logo with a cornucopia and it took me for ever to realize the difference between the two
Wow I’m in the middle of this video. I must say that Wow I never thought that I always think it’s interesting that the name of the company is a reference to fruit of the womb which is in the hail mary
But I never thought about the cornucopia being there Now I feel like it’s hard to imagine it not being there
And I never thought of it until the start of the video
Idk, I don’t particularly remember a cornucopia but the image gives off mad cornucopia vibes to me so I could see how people would remember it that way.
I remember it with the cornucopia, this is just a new parallel dimension we transferred into where it never existed, but our consciousness still remembers it existing in that last/original dimension.
@Galaxia Stardust Or you just misremembered a very small trivial detail and your brain refuses to believe it’s mistaken. Why do you think courts consider witness testimonies to be useless unless all agree on distinct details en masse? The brain can’t remember every detail precisely even if the situation happened only 5 minutes ago.
@Galaxia Stardust Yea, but the chance of that being the case is lower than the chance of 100 people working together to properly writing a googolplex in 1,000,000 hours. Comparing the near 97% chance that’s backed by undisputed scientific evidence and research studying the human brain and its major flaws (the 2.9999% goes to the chance it does exist somewhere or some time-traveler decided to be a dick and purposely make very trivial changes to brand logos and show names to mess with us), the 0.0001% that only works with the idea that the parallel universe had been born around the same time as ours, and then have to take into factor the chance of particles aligning in a way 1 out of 10^10^122 but then you have to take into the factor of that parallel universe having the exact change of an added cornucopia onto some underwear brand, then finally take into the factor of you remembering this trivial detail from your original universe.
Look at the logo at 7:03, the leaves in the background are BROWN, like a cornucopia, many people might’ve seen the one point on the right and the wide patch of leaf on the left and simply assumed it was a cornucopia without looking much further.
The most jarring part of this phenomenon isn't just imagining that cornucopia is there, but that I picture THAT PARTICULAR render of the cornucopia at 00:33. When you phased it in, it was exactly the way I'd imagined it.
How can you be sure that the way you pictured it before you saw the video was more vague and the video only filled in the blanks? Memory is only meant to keep you alive long enough to make some babies, and your brain often fills in the blanks with newly acquired information while seeming like that’s what you thought all along.
@Shaun Enwright And that's what makes it so eerie. It felt strangely satisfying to see that particular design phased into the graphic. I wonder if I would have felt the same had he, say, uploaded a photo-realistic image of a cornucopia instead.
@Brock Beard Thats cause the cornocopia is drawn in the same artstyle as the rest of the logo. If your filling in the blanks of a piece of art, it would naturally be in the same style.
i think around this time computers were becoming mainstream with more homes having a desktop PC most of those had a word processor or even had cd's with 1000s of clipart images in them. it was one of the only ways to spruce up a school project before the internet. Could people be recalling these as I can remember seeing this cartoon image for harvest or thanksgiving.
The most fucked up thing is I remember vividly being a kid looking at the cornucopia behind fruit of the loom logo and not knowing what it was supposed to be
I'm thinking it might have to do with the fruit of the loom logo have a similar art style as coloring book drawings that could have involved cornucopias many of us may have colored in as kids, but that could also just be my own experience as midwestern white dude lol
Hella late to the video but I felt it could have to do with the leaves being orange back in the day, we saw the tone behind the fruit and our kid brains filled in the cornucopia
I SWEAR ON BOTH OF MY KIDNEYS that the logo used to have a cornucopia, i find myself to have very good memories of growing up in the early 2000s and i distinctly remember asking my mum what it was
Is it possible it was just in something else? Like some kind of random image teachers would put on Thanksgiving homework. That would explain why people remember asking there teachers
i was born in 2006 and so grew up wearing fruit of the loom clothes, and whenever i saw the logo i remember seeing the fruits and no cornocopia, but thinking 'oh wheres the basket thing? did they change the logo?'wierd
Out of all the channels on YouTube, you're probably the most YouTubey youtuber. Seriously, not only were you a YouTube poop channel reletively early on in YouTubes life, but your a meme channel, commentary channel, and a respected creator. There will never ever be another youtuber like Emperor Lemon.
This reality doesn't contain that version of the image. When you die you enter seamlessly another instance of reality. You might get a feeling of "deja-vu" when it happens but that's it. Quantum immortality.
Berenstein Bears isn't an example of the Mandela Effect. That is the actual name of the family of bears in one of the sources of media they are portrayed in: Either the videos or the comics. And Berenstain is the name of the family in the other.
A cornucopia is a common enough object, at least in the United States, it's a central piece of Thanksgiving iconography and cornucopias often include fruits like apples and grapes so it visually kind of makes sense, sense enough that several parodies of the logo decided to add one to differentiate from the brand while still obviously referring to it, these parodies would then reinforce the idea that there was ever a cornucopia in the original logo to begin with as people's memories would consolidate the two. Also, you would think that with the logo being on the inside of peoples’ underwear it would be a sure thing to remember but a shocking number of individuals tune out skidmarks in their undies so do you really expect that people would pay that kind of attention to the print on the inside band?
I'm watching this video thinking "I can see why people might misremember this, it feels like they SHOULD have put a cornucopia there" Then you say people remember calling them "looms" IUSEDTOCALLITALOOM
It must have been my memory that gave me false recollections of Saddam's nuclear weapons, the Jessica Lynch story and Assad gassing his own people whilst winning a war. This Mandela effect has a lot to answer for
I’m pretty sure the brain is just interpreting the word ‘loom’ in the name into an image.
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theo lang2020-11-30 16:19:50 (edited 2020-11-30 16:21:27 )
the cornucopia has a whole other connotation on the other side of the ocean, in Europe, and if often thought of as a symbol for spring, fresh fruit in abundance in often depicted with it! it stems from a plethora of ancient myths of one with an infinity large inside but a finite and handy-format outside, being filled with infinite fresh fruits. myths containing the cornucopia are found on all part of Europe, from Scotland and Norway to Hungary and Spain
when using a corporate logo and not wanting to pay you might turn a pile of fruit into a cornucopia of fruit; it's distinct but obvious. perhaps our memories came from seeing this version of the logo in media
I bought a People magazine in the supermarket last week with the headline “Betty White Turns 100!” Obviously she passed (RIP) after some deadline in the production process. I plan to put it away for now and in a couple of years I will bring it out and convince stupid people that I have evidence of an alternate reality.
Nah i never remember seeing a cornucopia, but i will say that it fits and i think the reason why people remember it is because of the thousands and thousands of pictures painted of fruit, i forget what its called but fools but drawing fruit w cornucopia for hundreds of years and thats not a exaggeration. Im assuming by connecting the dots there
I think it's just the design looks lacking, and the cornucopia completes it. So we just complete it in our brains, I can't tell you how many fruit with cornucopia pictures I have seen in my elementry school during November. So is it hard to believe that we just assume it had a cornucopia because it feels better
One thing I want to point out is how often do you look at your underwear? You don't, so even if there was one fluke printing with the cornucopia on it, you wouldn't remember it, so it must've been long times of printing.
it's made with passion and love for talking about this kind of stuff. if you keep it random and interesting then people will never get tired and they'll always keep coming back for more. there is a lot of obscure stuff we don't know about, and uncovering those topics for us to learn is intriguing. that's why many creators like making these kinds of videos.
I'm from Mexico and I can state that we are not familiar with cornucopias neither with brands names or adds from "fruit of the loom" so, our mind are not jaded by the media But I remember the logo and the cornucopia while buying underwear, I guess it might be counterfeits
We live in a multi-verse where realities have collapsed into each other, some of us originated from one reality while others were from another, who knows how many there are or how many have merged.
I can swear I remember it in the 90s not on the tag but on the plastic wrappers of the shirts and underwear. But I could be totally wrong it has been 20 years...
Because it looks better with the cornucopia, it makes the logo feel "complete". I think our brains know there is no cornucopia, but choose to add it simply because it feels right
also people hear other people remember something specific, and since they don't have a strong memory of said thing they accept the other person's version of events
EXACTLY there's just something about the logo design and the placement of the fruits/leaves that leave that top right corner uncomfortably open so our mind wants to fill it in with something distinct to the rest of the image.
@magica I remember years back seeing the logo and asking my mum what the basket was at the back, she told me it was a cornucopia. That’s how I came to know the word.
@magica for me it’s the same thing. Like a lot of people I thought the cornucopia was called the loom. It’s just creepy how it’s not there anymore and I remember it so vividly.
That's what I thought. I don't remember the cornucopia, but when he added it I was like "huh maybe there was a cornucopia?" But I think it's just because, like you said, looks more complete with it there.
I really don't think it works like that. Now, I'm 14 years old and have never owned Fruit Of The Loom underwear, so my thought process might not have been altered in such a way that causes me to think that. But anyways, I really don't think the brain would edit something in just because it feels "right". As the Emperor himself said, many of the Mandela Effects are chalked up to common details being altered. The brain's autocorrect would need to, by nature, expect a cornucopia where there is none. Merely adding a cornucopia because it feels "right" wouldn't make sense.
I don't think this is the answer, and the video itself succinctly sums up why; it's too uncommon of an object for people to naturally assume it's there, let alone discover the object because of the logo. It's nothing as insane as parallel universes, I don't believe in the Mandela Effect, but that isn't a logical answer when applied practically.
the one on the left is centered better, i had to stare at it for a whole minute to see it, i was looking at freds hair and clothing, and the thing i was looking for was right in front of me
I can kind of understand it. Whenever someone says the word "Flintstones", they seem to pronounce it "Flinstones". It's very rare to hear someone actually pronounce the "t", or at least in my experience it has been. So I could totally picture someone trying to write the word "Flintstones" but spelling it phonetically and not writing in the "t"
i only remember thinking it was "flinstones" as a kid when my mom would give me those flintstones vitamin gummies, i never really saw the bottle and only heard her say it and since we're from america and americans barely pronounce the letter "T" she pronounced it like "flindstones," and i never really watched the show so i never saw the name on TV. as soon as i got a bit older though i saw that it was "flintstones" and i was like "yeah that makes sense, cause cavemen made things out of flint stones"
I will never give up on the cornucopia, the other "mandela-effect" memory differences are easily explainable but I've never found resolution for the cornucopia... not even this video. The search continues...
I literally learned what a cornucopia was because I asked what the brown thing was when I was a little kid. I assumed the cornucopia was removed to modernize the logo, but this is way weirder
i will point out that the mock-up cornucopia is not in the same art style: the line thickness is different; the pen strokes have line weight; the "shading lines" on the fruit run horizontally, but on the cornucopia they are random; the cornucopia has shading (on the inside), but nothing else does
I have a plain white shirt from fruit of the loom and I don’t know where I got it from given that there’s no places in London that I know of that would sell fruit of the loom, but I also only remember the logo with a curnocopia despite seeing it quite often
The mundane... But having conversations in the past about things that apparently never existed? I remember having a conversation about this very subject BEFORE the internet was there to share in the wisdom of "you rely on your mind to remember? FOOL!" I get it, our reality is very much subjective but when things that were are not anymore then are we allowed to question? It seems not. I remember a time when the news was terrible about everything and politicians were thieves and bad guys yet some people remember better days; I think they're nuttier than a cornucopia filled with fruit.
I remember in grade school I got a pair of hand me downs that I very clearly remember having a cornucopia. I'm going to go looking for them again, perhaps there was an off brand fruit of the loom underwear that happened to have a cornucopia and people are simply misremembering the names?
the only thing I can think about that could have done it would be kids confusing it with those thanksgiving colouring things you do in kindergarten. but that wouldn't explain the 60s or 70s.
a parallel universe / timeline? no that's just ridiculous. clearly the most logical answer is we are living in a simulation and during an update some legacy graphics and scripts were altered (compatibility? accident?) but the user data conversion failed and was reverted, which is why it loads in erroneous data that doesn't exist... because it doesn't exist anymore
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John DeF2021-11-14 21:49:22 (edited 2021-11-14 22:06:00 )
The Berenstein bears always made me wonder why they had a jewish name. I wouldnt have thought that about Berenstain....just my recollections...and the reason we cant find anything with the cornucopia is we slipped into the parallel universe where it never was.
9:30 That is literally the creator of Mandela Effect's explanation for their own phenomenon. Which is a shame because the Mandela Effect is so interesting! The human brain is so interesting and the Mandela Effect is a great example of that but it just HAD to be named by a nutjob.
The craziest thing and the most baffling thing to me is that I myself am from Mexico, I remember the Fruit Of The Loom brand logo having a cornucopia and here in Mexico cornucopias are not much of a thing, in fact you will barely ever see any representation in media, advertising, seasonal products, products in general, not even physically a cornucopia, WE DON'T EVEN CELEBRATE THANKSGIVING FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
There aren't really any celebrations around fall/autum festivities like in the USA and there isn't a culture of Thanksgiving day here, the only real festivity around that season is The day of the dead (Día de Muertos) and there is no use of cornucopia nor many of the same parafernalia/symbols used in Halloween, harvest celebrations, Thanksgiving, as in the US, you can look it up. Cornucopias are a very European element or an element/ornament of very throroughly Europeanized cultures, really.
So cornucopias are pretty much a foreign concept and a foreign thing, both figuratively and literaly over here, even in large cities (I live in the second largest metropolitan area of Mexico) they aren't common, so it is pretty amazing how many of us remember there being a cornucopia on the Fruit Of The Loom logo.
I remember as a child my grandparents or my mom giving me underwear with the cornucopia logo and even the packaging, either cardboard boxes or bags having the same logo, (no, I'm pretty sure they weren't knock-off brands) and other people does remember them too, buying them from large store chains like Wal-Mart, Aurrerá, Soriana, Gigante, La Comercial Super / Mega / Hiper, Superama, Carrefour, etc. so I'm pretty sure they weren't pirate copies or anything like that, those are the things that the average person remembers... ...I even remeber at one point in elementary not knowing what it was and discoverung both at school from teachers and with my family, confirming what it was.
I remember that my mom told me what it was a "horn of abundance" in Spanish: "cuerno de la abundancia" and although the same name applies to it, "cornucopia", in Spanish, it is so uncommon here that most people either don't know the word itself or don't know what it means and don't know that's the name of them; I'm pretty sure a lot of people doesn't even know them, what they are, what purposed they're suppose to serve if they ever encounter one.
So yeah, as a kid I didn't even know what they were, the cornucopias, and I was also curious about what they were, what was that thing on the Fruit Of The Loom logo after seeing them so many times in their logo, but still the only place I can recall where I had seen it at that time and all the way to my teenage years was in that logo distinctively and nowhere else in fact, I am pretty sure of it because it was weird and unlike anything else I had seen before on any brands, logos, advertisement, commercials.
I know that I'm going off and rambling about but I want to make very clear that I was a kid in elementary and as a kid outside of the USA I did't have any other possible point of reference or contamination from any other source and that this is a very particular case in which I'm very positive we couldn't have confused that element with anything else, another very important point regarding this is that I know what a lot of you will say that maybe we saw them on the internet or through a website, video or some sort of content on the web and we mixed them up or confused them or something of that nature, but I am talking about my childhood growing up in Mexico in the 90s and early 2000s, at that moment in time the internet was barely taking off in every world market and it wasn't the thing that it is today, besides, in Mexico the computer use per capita has never matched that of the USA for example and not many people back then owned a computer or had internet service, I didn't even have a simple basic cellphone until I was 13 or 14, I'm sure. (and with no access to internet either.)
In fact since it is so uncommon and nobody ever uses it an everyday context here in Mexico, I hadn't heard of the word "cornucopia" until I was a teenager and I was discovering Black Sabbath's music and I learnt the title of the Volume 4's song: "Cornucopia" and I looked it up (it's meaning), so yeah, it's not like everyone knows what a cornucopia is, not even its name sometimes and still people remembers it being on that logo at least.
What I'm saying is that it is pretty astounding to me that it's not an isolated incident to the US peope and that even people like myself with a different culture, upbringing, background have a memory of this against all odds and regardless of all the evidence to the contrary...
...And although it is very convoluted to think that there's a conspiracy behind these phenomena or that there are alternate realities or dimesions and glitches within the fabric of our existenced having to do with this, I think it is very convoluted and conformist (and dare I say even negligent to some extent) in the same way just to deny, disregard all these discrepancies and just play it off as a false memory, a faulty collective dellusion or a mistake, since so many people in so many different cultures, with different backgrounds and upbringings have the same recollection of things even under very different circumstances and conditions.
A "Dé·jà-vu", in simple terms is a memory that is written into long term memory at the moment we experience it. So it feels very weird as we experience AND remember it at the same time.
A "Dé·jà-vu", in simple terms is a memory that is written into long term memory at the moment we experience it. So it feels very weird as we experience AND remember it at the same time.
I think by far the weirdest thing about this is the use of the cornucopia in media depictions of the logo like did those people not check what the logo looked like did it not come up with a cornucopia and they all remember the exact same thing in the exact place
The Mandela effect is terrifying if real. If reality can change and constantly is. I wonder if under string theory if something like this could actually be possible. Who would of thought time travel was possible. Or that quantum entanglement can send information MUCH faster than the speed of light. Seemingly breaking the laws of physics. The Universe is a strange interesting place.
What about knock off’s…Bootleg…. fakes? I went to a lot of flea markets as a kid….and it seems like most of my family ended up with loads of socks, underwear, hats, undershirts… Shit like that.
Obviously they were either factory overruns, errors, but mostly just knock off’s 😁
Had a t-shirt form that brand 20 years ago and it was very uncommon where I live so I remembered it better than other low cost brand trags and it didn't have the cornucopia :srhug:
The cornucopia was on the cardboard label attached to the garment. It was most definitely there. Many people still have the garment but it was not on the garment, how many people kept the throwaway cardboard tag?
This still gets me because I genuinely swear, I learned what a cornucopia was because I asked what that cone thing was on the logo. Like there's no evidence that I didn't misremember this but I really don't believe that I did 😭 like it's not really common to see one in any other context. Extremely weird
The tagless fruit of the loom logo should be colorful as the logo stickers are. They should bring the Banana back to the logo, add a cornucopia, and bring back the blue and yellow waistbands.
@Klobi for President Accurate, but not especially detailed or vivid. My memory usually works a lot better for text and textures/sensations of touch than it does for images or sound. And lots of details people just take for granted as easy to memorize (faces, names, and voices) I tend to greatly struggle with.
@Nathan the God-Fearing Highly accurate, low detail memories of written text? So you're good at remembering the gist and remembering it properly but the finer details are blurred?
@Klobi for President Yes. And I remember most pictures I've seen and liked or disliked enough to remember at all as an accurate but not especially detailed written description of them. I remember most conversations of note as accurate but not especially detailed textual transcripts of the gist of the discussion.
God damn it. I saw the logo at a Burlington Coat Factory in Las Vegas, NV when I was around 10 years old. I have a very distinct memory of being bored while shopping with my family and I was pawing through underwear and each one had that cornucopia logo on it, exactly as depicted here.
Not to beat a dead horse here...but the Sinbad genie movie is something that I can remember happening. My mom used to buy old movies from Ebay (when Ebay was just getting big) and I can remember her buying Kazaam with Shaq. I remember us talking about the movie with Sinbad because they were so similar and released around the same time. Also when the movies "A Bugs Life" and "Antz" came out I can remember discussing how similar this was to when Shaq and Sinbad both had genie movies. This is the only mandela effect that I can relate to, other than misremembering when Nelson Mandela died (I thought I remember being taught he died in prison in school and thinking how sad that was, but that is probably my brain making up stuff after hearing about the phenomena). But with Shazaam I can distinctly remember two separate conversations I had about a movie that apparently never existed.
So when I saw this video, I was like "Oh, Emp is probably tackling something about the company" and then 30 seconds in, I realized, "Oh wait, this is Emp."
Whenever a Mandela effect is discussed there should be 2 fake Mandela effects mentioned as well as I could be convinced chucky e cheese was green and wore a top hat if someone said a lot of other people remembered it that way.
I think as a kid I thought this logo had a cornucopia because there was this local grocery store near me whose logo had a bunch of fruits with a cornucopia. So…
I have an anchor memory to the cornucopia being there. This is the ONLY Mandela effect that I can’t get a hold of. Shazam and Chic Fil A kind of get me, but I get it. That being said, the cornucopia was there, and it is EXACTLY the one that they show on here. Who made it?!? The person who mocked this up remembers the real one.
ISTG FRUIT OF THE LOOM WAS HOW I LEARNT THE WORD I was shopping with my dad and I pointed to that logo and asked “hey what’s that thing called” and he said “oh that’s one of those cornucopia things Americans use during thanksgiving”
The New Zealand Mandela effect is true. We used to sit above Australia but we got bored and it was too hot up there. So decided to row the old girl down next to Antarctica and save on AC. Sorry for the confusion 😕
OH FUCK, that parody album cover really made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Why would it make any sense to parody something that wasn't there?!
Mandela Effect is a term that describes a collective misremembering of names, places, events, etc. It is named after the collective misremembering of Nelson Mandela being a heroic revolutionary and not a sadistic murdering terrorist.
I know it's not even close to the first time your face has been made known but it feels interesting seeing it in such a recent, modern-Emp style (if you so will) video. Anyways, like what the more reputable channels are saying, you really do find a way to make any topic interesting, I was slapping myself this whole video at some of the brand examples you showed. Great content as always, and keep it up.
Has anyone connected misremembering the monopoly guy having a monocle to the scene in ace Ventura where he says to a bald old guy with a mustache and monocle “you must be the monopoly guy” so then we automatically assume the monopoly guy had a monocle too
I specifically remember the fruit and cornucopia logo on a store, we'd drive past it a lot when I was a kid. I'm not actually sure what they sold or what it was called but I remember associating it with the brand Fruit of the Loom and thinking "huh, so that's a loom?"
Maybe there was some Hitler-esque person that was inspired by the cornucopia in fruit of the loom in some way. Then time travelers realized if they go back in time and somehow manipulate the designer to not include the cornucopia they can prevent this individual from gaining power to do harm. ... obviously I'm not serious but I always think of this sort of situation when I hear of mandella effect things.
I think I solved it. Bootlegs. What if there were a widespread bootlegs in 80s and 90s with the cornucopia, but were thrown away by ppl because they realised that they were fake
Having unreliable enough memory is like getting to enjoy the results of being able to draw, make music, movies and games with the only downsides being no way to share them with an audience and having to note down important things.
God I had corrected until you showed the incorrect “memory” information then I became really confused because I had thought I’m actually correct “memories” were now wrong when in actuality they were correct.
Never got the curious George had a tail thing, maybe people mistake his feet for his tail, a big thing in the show was he always swung around with his feet and essentially used them as a second pair of hands
It did have it! Thing is, that they updated the logo, just like many logo reboots. I remember when it changed. Just like logos, mascots on ceral changes, get better designed, cleaner lines, etc etc etc.
That's exactly what I assumed, too, but unless these companies are lying that's simply not correct. They are claiming that the logos or art never appeared as many remember. It's not credible to me to believe I imagined a cornucopia on my brother's underwear when I was a child. It's not credible to believe I conflated Mr. Peanut with the Monopoly man's monocle. Cornucopias and monocles are very random objects and not easily imagined to exist where they don't.
Nahhhhhh the fruit of the loom HAD a cornucopia. Period end of story. I remember with my own eyes seeing a cornucopia on my boxers. How else would i have learned what that was unless i asked my parents that said they didnt know
Weird, I remember contemplating (in my pre teen years for sure) why the logo didn't have the cornucopia on the underwear tag itself, but on the plastic bag it was in at Walmart, it had it. maybe everyone just threw it away because no one would keep some garbage
I knew of the Mandella Effect but I could swear my black shirts were having that on the logo. I am sorry. What? Are we just passing through near simillar versions of the universe when we die, but the effect of that is we get a slightly modiffied version of it in continuing living?
I don't believe in most Mandela Effects but Chic-Fil-A and the Cornucopia FOTL logo are two things that I know for certain I had memories of. It's the strangest thing.
I didnt even know there was a typo in the Dale Earnhart video, I've watched that video twice, all the way through, neither time noticing the hilarity that is the typo "Speeway"
0:42 Just so people are aware: cornucopias are a thing people in the UK know about too, that person was just ignorant. Edit: That said they do seem to be more common in American pop culture, I assume it's a symbol of the bountiful destiny the USA manifested on North America Edit2: wait why does a brit even know of Fruit of the Loom? Edit3: Pumpkins? Thanksgiving? Do Americans think they invented the cornucopia?
Nobody who was actually a Pokemon fan in 1998 and old enough to have reliable memories thinks Pikachu has a black tip on their tail. Pokemon fans tend to be artistic and obsessive. We all drew Pikachu a million times, and we all know that Pikachu never had a black tip to their tail.
I’m starting to believe that EmpLemon is an alien being that’s coming down to Earth to study how little you need to get humans interested.
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Oh so thats what that basket thingy is called. It's been bugging me for years trying to rememebr to look it up but keep on forgetting. A fucking cornucopia.
I'm not from the us I didn't know that was called a cornucopia I've never heard of this brand but i still vaguely remember that exact logo with that exact cornucopia drawing
i think it was knockoffs, berenstain bears probs knockoffs, fruit of the loom def. curios george i never seen it. new zealand i just thought it was closer to austrailia from where it actually is
When i first heard about the Mandela Effect, it sound dumb for the few first exemple. But, it was the first exemple that make my brain explode. 100% sure it miss the cornucopia. And i'm not even in the US, this is not a big brand everywhere, this is not a logo you see everyday. But i know my memory for details like this. Even when working for Amazon, i remember describing the logo to someone. I remember talking about the curnucopia, and the face of the girl when talking about it. The Mandela Effect wasn't know at the time.
I think the Berenstein Bears thing can also be attributed to how certain parts of the country pronounce "Berenstain". I come from Tennessee, and I can tell you that in a Southern accent, reading it aloud can easily sound like "stein".
i have a theory okay fotl (fruit of the loom) started out with out the cornucopia them added it for a 3 or 4 months then took it out ( ik this is really bad but its really late for me)
You may be right that it's mundane things, but it's not because we have a bad memory, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard, when we recall something we always do to the best of our ability, assuming you're not somebody with alzheimer's, but I'm guessing you are going to be able to remember with great accuracy, otherwise you just say you don't remember, but the thing is we do remember,
I asked my mom dad and sister all separately what they remember about the logo. They all said they specifically recalled the cornucopia. I asked my grandmother if she remembered a cornucopia and she said she remembered a basket although she is old
Can we all agree that cornucopias seem like a terribly insufficient way of transporting fruits, not to mention every picture the stupid basket is empty and all the fruits falling out
Pikachu fact is wrong but it's so obscure you might as well be right. It's on one pikachu in omega ruby and alpha sapphire. I original saw the fact and immediately thought you were wrong but it was just my pikachu. To anyone that doesn't know it's the cosplay one.
I'm french Canadian, as a kid, I did not speak english, tho these underwears were popular here too. I recall calling this brand of underwear : corne d'abondance ( which means cornucopia in French) How can a child not knowing a language could call something if else there is a clear drawing of the thing ? I'm very confuse to learn the basket was never on the original logo... Maybe there was a knock-off brand using the same name but having add the said cornucopia?
I am from India, only ever saw fruit of loom underwear logo twice before, since it really isn't popular here and I don't remember the conch shell thingy, I do remeber the grapes and Apple
Emp is such an amazing chameleon when it comes to his videos, you never know what the next one will be about, but you can be sure it's going to be well researched
Extra twist: there never was a genie called Shazzam (that's Captain Marvel's activation word) but there was an eponymous Hannah Barbera cartoon about a genie called Shazzan (with an N).
I got to use eponymous in a sentence :achievement unlocked 🤣.
It’s weird how the only relation I have to the brand is because my mother worked on the offices of their manufacturing plants in Honduras. In all my lifetime I never imagined a cornucopia on the logo still fruit of the loom as a product doesn’t really exist outside of the US. So it’s interesting seeing this!
i remember seeing the cornucopia on the logo every time i went to walmart until i was about 5 or 6. one day i noticed it suddenly didn't exist and it freaked me out. this whole time i just assumed they changed the look of the logo in the 2000's. i also remember the company at&t being a&t for some reason. this was around the same time too. weird.
Im from germany, we dont have thanks giving... I know the logo was like that in the 90s.. I Did not even know what a cornucopia was... just know it from the logo
Ok listen, i might of figured it out, the cornucopia is normally with fruit so thats why we think its in that logo and because a cornucopia is with fruit and its brown, and that one time the logo had brown leaves, it thought that.
I usually think Mandela Effects are dumb but this one is bugging me. Maybe it IS possible to think very hard and believe to get into another timeline. I quit weed even, this shouldn't be tripping me out.
0:05 Fruit of the Loom 0:48 Mandela Effect 1:57 Reconstruction of an event using Memory 3:49 Cornucopia 5:30 Cornucopia across decades 7:26 There Never Was Ever A Cornucopia 9:31 Parallel Universes? 10:40 Memory is connection with the past, 11:45 The Token of The Past
https://youtu.be/z-syaCoqkZA In this pbs spacetime video eventually they get to a point where quantum timelines that separate may eventually re-alignand thought of that as a potential theoretical answer to this. People who remember the Cornucopia are from a slightly different timeline that has rejoined due to synchronicity or something.
I first wore fruit of the loom back in elementary school. I also had to learn my abc's and f would be fruit. I remember there being a more generic fruit logo with a cornucopia. Maybe that would cause the confusion?
"underwear is something we have on every day" hehehehehehe Also theres just the other possibility that all these companies and brand names are just impulsively gaslighting us so they don't get memed on with the "don't make me into an oversimplified logo"
i remember the logo never having a cornucopia. but i also remember nelson mandela being elected president of south africa. so what's wrong with me? some enterprising young researcher should go to south africa and ask a bunch of south africans if they remember mandela dying in prison in the 80s. the results would be...enlightening.
I think you're reaching on the point of people not adding it in as its unrelated its close enough that people could reasonably add it in similar to the other examples
I'm from the UK and don't remember the cornocopia on the logo. I do remember pringles used to sell 'sour cream and chive' pringles but they changed it to 'sour cream and onion'. But there is no evidence of it and clearly it's Mandela effect cos u usually hear sour cream n chive and not sour cream n onion.
But I swear I'm not going crazy 😭 I really think the government is hiding the original name from us. Lmao
When I was a child my mom decorated for all the holidays for us kids and there were always cornucopia in the cutouts she would hang. Also we made them in arts class in elementary (along with "hand turkeys"lol) . Im sure everyone else did too and thats why we associate it with the logo
Ok I’ve talked to multiple people and some have the same memory of a commercial of men dressed fruit suits and a cornucopia and the butt of the joke being no one knowing what a cornucopia was
Sometimes I feel like watching videos like this trigger the rift into a parallel universe. Every time I watch one, some other thing changes. I knew Fruit of the Loom changed their logo in one of the past universes but somehow I ended up in the one where said logo never existed. My dad never ate dill pickles so I would get dill pickles on everything to keep him away from my food, then I crossed realities and he ate dill pickles regularly despite not eating them for the first 20 years of my life. I miss my dad who didn't eat pickles.
Have you talked to your dad about the pickle situation to confirm something is wrong? Otherwise people's palates can change over time, I always hated tomatoes until recently for example.
@F̡ac͜e͡l̨e̶ss͟ I sometime could had sworn there used to be an old group photo I have on my phone. Never delete it. But can still pin point the exact date when it was taken. Even posted it onto Facebook once. Now trying to look for that one specific photo is impossible. Can't find it anywhere whether is on my phone or social media. Even asked my friends about it and they say they don't remember taking a group photo. This is weird I might be tripping
I also remember it with a cornucopia for some reason. I only owned one fruit of the loom shirt in my entire life and I still distinctly remember it having the cornucopia, despite not even knowing what that was when I was around 11 years old
Berenstain Bears is misremembered because my librarian had a little dot sticker and a sharpie marker. The dot covers up the "a" and she draws the "e." Probably because kids in USA are mean to each other.
I think nearly everyone who grew up in the 80's and 90's remembers Mason Jars. The kind of jars that people put home made pickles, and beets, and stuff like that in?
Well in the 80's and 90's it became quite common to see Mason Jars with Handles for drinking out of, my family had one, I know other families that had a couple... anyway.
Everyone remembers Ball Brand Mason Jars, but do you remember Golden Harvest Brand? They were quite big as well and although their company logo is not a cornucopia filled with fruit, there was one staring at you every time you used one of those glasses.
Google Golden Harvest Canning Jar Glass.
I don't know if it solves the mystery for anyone else, but now I know why I recognize a logo like that and feel so familiar with it. I looked at it hundreds if not thousands of times and never noticed it for real... until recently.
Extra Fact: Golden Harvest also makes a small jam sized jar that has the something very similar to the foreground part of the Fruit of the Loom logo.
I swear the plastic baggie that the underwear came in had the cornucopia in a large format logo then had the smaller no cornucopia on the individual underwear
Also to go with this: Changing things to make them recognizable out of context, then proceeding to use it until it becomes widely known. (Example: Changing "No, I Am Your Father" to "Luke, I Am Your Father" in order for it to be instantly recognizable as Star Wars)
There for sure is a cornucopia somewhere in their past.. I know for sure that's how i remember it. Whether it was an ad or something I don't know, but it is real.
Yeah I was gonna say I remember looking at the fruit of the loom logo ome time and thinking "oh, they changed it and got rid of the cornucopia to simplify it"
Some people think that this logo was in the plastic packaging, which honestly makes sense as to why no one can find it. I am absolutely certain I've seen that logo before, that was literally my first introduction to what a cornucopia even was, and I didn't recognize one again until the hunger games lmao
Sure you’ll get to this eventually but a poor choice to say oh Monacle made sense cause that’s normal for rich people but not acknowledge Cornucopia is normal for pipe of fruit particularly that art style it’s the exact same principle and a missed chance
10:08 Cosplay Pikachu’s tail has a black heart shaped tip, so yeah if you get that confused you’re gonna make people think you’re talking about Cosplay Pika and not normal Pika
@Waluigi WAH I said no shit because if I’m talking about Cosplay Pikachu then I clearly know female Pikachu’s have a heart shaped tail, but only Cosplay Pika has the black heart
I think people saw the fruit of the loom logo, saw media portraying it with a cornucopia (so media doesnt want to get into legal problems), then processed the cornucopia into the fruit of the loom memories.
When I started watching this video I was thinking about how I asked my mom what the thing on the fruit of the loom tag was, and then you said that’s a widespread memory too. Very bizarre. Idk about this one.
The fruit of the loom logo is close to the Jack’s market logo which has the cornucopia. This is why we feel like it should be there, not the Mandela effect
12:20 Laying in bed rn, after he said that I took a photo of my room from where I am, maybe I'll see it in like 5 years and think "oh yeah I remember that" Probably not but u never know ig
When I was younger I always say it . I really really liked the logo to the point I always looked at it I was it and I remember it so that’s why I find it weird
my mother did not believe this. she bought my brother and me fotl our entire childhood. i think she still believes the cornucopia is real and i was trying to fool her
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I love it when my mind just photoshops things into weird places.
I'm German... Fruit of the loom is NOT a popular brand here. I do, however, have a thrifted shirt with a titanic poster printed on the front.. And I vividly remember the logo WITH a cornucopia, because it stuck out to me and I recognized it again years later seeing the hunger games?
@Ai Zee normally I'd agree with you, but I remember specifically Jif and then also Jiffy. I remember specifically wondering what a jiffy was and looked it up.
nah it's juste different grapes and vine leaves make you think of greece mythology, abundance of food so it fits. Just like the monocle. Didn't have to go this far soz
you're all so suggestible. you remember it looking like that because you just saw a picture of it in this video. that's what you're all remembering. that's how it got into your memory. through your eyes
when he said that some people claim to remember thinking that the name of that horn is a loom i got a distinct memory of having that same misconception myself as a child. amazing how he got into my head like that. you're all forgiven
But what about when they ran the ads with the dancing it’s in suits? Maybe I’m thinking of a Walmart / Kmart brand but my brain still says the logo had the design at one time.
The ad at the end was a good example of the right way to include an advertisement on YouTube. Entertaining, thought put into it, and done after the main content of the video is over.
I find it strange that people think it's a good idea to include the advertisement right in the middle of something, and don't do anything interesting with it. You're just going to make people hate what's being advertised even more. (COUGH Raid: Shadow Legends COUGH)
I know right? I know a youtuber who makes this advertisement in the most boring way posible, at the start of the video he explains about the product, the link to get a discount and finally starts the video, althought is just 1 or 2 minutos it is so boring to watch and i always skip that part and i doesnt pay atention it
In contrast, youtubers like emplemon and internet historian make ads more interesting because they make it funny and have something to do with the topic of the video instead of just being an out of place bland exposition on how the sponsored is the best thing you will ever buy, to put it simply, the more you are bored while watching you advertise the less chances someone will watch it entirely and click in the link with the discount.
And i guess because they are selling product im actualy interest in i dont know
@Raum 2901 Those are some really good points, but DO NOT buy ray cons. (they're rays con) lookup on youtube, "dankpods raycon" green laptop thumbnail, you'll see why. really nice video, if you like emp and internet historian like me, you'll like dankpods.
@Jackson i watch the video, it was entertraining, i didnt want to buy ray cons because i dont have the money to buy it and i dont listen to music in public, but if i ever want to buy a wireless earphone i will listen to dankpods recomendation
@Raum 2901 I'm sorry, I never implied that you wanted to buy raycons, I'm just saying that if you were in the market for wireless earbuds, don't buy raycons.
Are people thinking about sinbad from 2003? That cartoon from dreamworks. I remember seeing it, and I was bracing for some serious confusion if it didn’t exist.
I'm 38, I do NOT believe in this whole Mandella thing going on, but I KNOW it had the cornucopia on the logo!! I remember being a boy and asking my mom what it was cus I thought it was picture of fruit and poop! I'm so sooooo confused!!
That’s super weird, but my theory comes from the fact I live in Australia and have literally never seen or heard of that brand in my life but even to me the cornucopia versions looks correct or better so I think cus it looks better you assume it’s the right one or something
I am living for this period in youtube history where video essays on the most random shit in the world are so entertaining. I couldn't have convinced myself 2 years ago that I would be overjoyed to see a Youtuber I subscribe to talk about Fruit of the Loom, but here we are.
when I was a kid, we had an art class that was based around drawing on plastic wrap over tin foil. We had this picture to trace, which was basically the fruit of the loom logo, but it did have a cornucopia, and it also had a banana in it. I don't know if this was really a common experience, I live in a relatively small city and went to a private grade school. However, anyone else remember doing this?
Nvm just found out he has a deleted face reveal he did for 100k subs. There's an archive of it and it's literally the first thing that comes up when you search "Emplemon face reveal." So I guess I'm just dumb. Idk, never really wondered what he looked like before. Just knew I liked his content. Not like I'll ever meet the guy lol.
@darkdwarf007 That doesn't disprove it though. Occam's Razor isn't completely right, just the most reasonable. Very rarely you'll get something that really is that silly and over the top.
@AuraRavenWolfie true, maybe we should just use Newton's flaming laser sword instead. Anything that cannot be settled by an experiment is not worth debating.
You can't prove or disprove a bunch of shit that doesn't really impact how you live your life. Like last tuesdayism, simulation hypothesis, that a falling tree makes noise when nobody is around, that light travels at the same speed in all dierctions, that other people exist. Basically anything, as the concept af absolute proof makes no sense outside of logic statements.
10:59 its funny you say that and show The Thinker, because thats another Mandela Effect. His hand used to be on his forehead and his elbow wasnt resting on the opposite leg.
To elaborate on the reconstructive memory point (from an A level psych): Reconstructive memory is a concept or theory that suggests memory is not repeated, but reconstructed; this implies that our memory is maluable and subject to change. There are different ways our memories can be altered: Rationalisation occurs when a memory contains details that may seem strange and foreign to us, so our memories may change in order to make sense of what we've seen, this can be influenced by personal bias and stereotypes, aka schemas. Confabulation is where we fill gaps of our memories with confabulated (fake) stories that are constructed from past memories and schemas.
The gov build a time machine ,, and Went back in time ... and it had a ripple effect.... and now we blame the Mandela effect .. but we should blame the ppl who went back in time.
I think that there used to be a cornucopia but they just changed their logo and made sure that nobody could find the logo again by hiring someone to remove all logos from the internet and stopped putting logos on the underwear so that nobody had the old one then started putting it back on but without the cornucopia so that this would happen and they would get lots of attention therefore they get marketing
I watched this video to understand something I already didn't understand, not to be introduced to other misunderstanding that I didn't know about. I immediately regretted watching this video at the 10 minute mark.
If anyone could conclusively prove that the cornucopia was removed at some point, the next answer is easy: Why? Because it was weird having an extremely phallic object advertising underwear....
8:20: Something about "MAGA" standing for "Mexican-American Grocery Association" & being portrayed by a bunch of fruits is ironic. (Like if you see why lol.)
8:22 I wonder if that MAGA association still exist cuz that's the second time I've even seen that acronym, and it's not even used for political purposes
Fucking Hadron collider fucking up the timeline. I remember that cornucopia on all my childhood underwear. I can say I drew Pikachu thousands of times as a kid and he never had a black tail tip
I can clearly remember a cornucopia though. I literally make the connection every time I think of fruit of the loom, I think I remember being one of the kids who thought of the cornucopia as the loom. Listen I'm not big on conspiracies or mandela effect, I like to be skeptical. But it's very weird. Why in gods name does everyone remember a damn cornucopia?
The first time I watched the hunger games I heard them talking about a cournocopia and I said, out loud, “Oh, like the fruit of the loom logo.” Just now I asked her about it, and she said she doesn’t remember.
I ate a really good Sloppy Joe with lean ground beef, tomato sauce, brown sugar, vinegar, diced onion, and a side of Lays potato chips. I really enjoy this sandwich because it has a very sweet taste unlike many others, but if you don’t like the sweetness you can remove the brown sugar. I hope you all get to eat a really good sandwich as well!
Bruh, I just got done searching for a Cuban sandwich to be delivered to me and came up empty in my whole town. These jokers ain't about this fire sandwich game.
It's the brain completing something that feels incomplete, the cornocopia rounds the logo better, it doesn't help that on small prints it kinda looks like that. It's like asking somebody to rember what shirt your friend was wearing on Tuesday.
I swear there was a famous painting with a bunch of fruit spilling out of a cornucopia I can’t find it because I forgot what it was called though, maybe that is it?
The thing about the cornucopia that makes me feel so confident about it is that I specifically remember the stylized cornucopia that looks like the one you had.
Exactly. Like WHO drew it exactly like that? It's easier to remove something that exists from a picture, than add it in, exactly as it was in thousands of people's heads, down to the black lines..
"...or whether the tip of Pikachu's tail is black..." I think that one's just a common misconception, as in Gen 6, there was a Pikachu with a black-tipped tail, cosplay Pikachu; a female Pikachu given to the player to use in contests.
You already answered it; it’s the Mandela effect; the result of us smashing into us. Thanks to the super large hadron collider.
At a point Occam’s razor says it’s the only logical explanation, we can’t all keep being wrong about everything with clear and formative memories of things that don’t exist
lmfao occams razor? "yeah a bunch of people cant make the same mistake and then spread it around until other people misremember too, it has to be ALTERNATE UNIVERSES AND STUFF! That's the most reasonable explaination!"
school pictures of Thanksgiving. you wwre abiut that age probably where you related things. the table set up with a cornucopia of veges and fruits...and then fruit of the loom ads on TV. you go back to memory today and while you are more mature, when you go back to those thoughts ut really can only be in the eyes of younger you who qwre JUST trying to relate the world and categorize and understand. You try to put more logic into that younger you..your brain goes through a fixing solution, and you fix that image of Thanksgiving tk that brand tag...and when you picture it, it's hard to not picture it now.
I like how people are more likely to believe they jumped from one universe to the other where an underwear logo is slightly different than to concede that they might be wrong
I think it's more because there are so many people who remember it a certain way. Also a few people here even have memories of learning about what a cornucopia really is from the fruit of the loom symbol.
I myself at first didn't really remember one from the logo, but as the video progressed I remember seeing a variation on some underwear a while back. So now i'm in a sort of disbelief limbo
@NormalAF people are surprisingly good at convincing themselves something happened one way or another, John Bohannon has published articles on peoples memories changing in just 5 months of major events (his example was where people were and how they reacted to the challenger disaster in 1986)(google John Bohannon if you’re interested, but the study is locked behind a paywall unfortunately) the aspect affecting people is peer pressure, which can easily influence anyone, no matter how confident they are in something. (I can’t be arsed to find a proper study, but I think Darren brown did an experiment on it for you to enjoy) if there’s no evidence to support an idea you have, you have to be critical of your idea.
@Staringcorgi6 How? Can you debunk the existence of parallel universes? No you cant because we cant see anything outside of our reality. Can you debunk flat earth? Yes because its fucking obvious the earth is round. Can you debunk vaccine causing autism? Yes very easily. So tell me how believeing in parallel universes(which is rather common and is a somewhat reasonable concept) is dumber? Please enlighten us.
I don't recall the cornucopia but can see how someone might. This whole thing lost all mystique when the Flintstones thing came up though, because I had a debate with my friend Mark in grade 5 (1993) about them... he spelled it without the "t" and I corrected him. He didn't believe me, and I told him what flint was and he thought it made sense but still thought I was wrong. Then we went to my house after school and I showed him a plastic Flintstones cup I had and that was the end of that.
one thanksgiving the fruit had a commercial where people were in the fruit suits and they come out of a giant cornucopia they all were waring the underware implying they made for all sizes of people>?
Taken from the NZ article: "I'm literally sitting here in tears feeling like I'm about to have a panic attack. My entire understanding of everything has been shaken to the core," writes Reddit user dontevenknowanymore_.
Jesus Christ I hope the article mistook sarcasm for realism
It's interesting because I remember Fruit of the Loom had a cornucopia in their logo when I was around 4-7 years old. After 2009-2011, the cornucopia completely disappeared for me. I forgot about until it until I saw this video. Thanks, Emp for reminding me of this mystery.
I can distinctly recall a memory of being somewhere between K-3 grade and having to color in that exact picture for Thanksgiving, and asking the teacher why the fruit of the loom logo was in the the Thanksgiving coloring sheet. That was the day I learned what a cornucopia was. We need to check McGraw Hill teaching material between the years 1991-2005. Bet we'd find something.
I'm not sure if I just remembered the cornucopia, but honestly I think I just like it better. It just feels right, and when it's not there it just isnt the same. I wonder if people in different cultures view this the same way.
I remember it too very vividly actually and i think that’s how i learned of what a cornucopia was too and just called it a loom, as far as the stain vs stein goes I never saw that at all, I always remember it being stain because the theme song made it pretty distinct but like you said it makes sense considering that stein is a common ending for some surnames, it’s like how when people talk about ed edd n eddy and call “rolf” “ralph” because ralph is a name that people actually know so they just hear what they want. When his name’s never been ralph, I remember when I was in 9th grade there were a lot of people calling him ralph and years later some people online too
My guess for the Pikachu tail thing is that in its party sprite the ear lines up perfectly with the end of the tail and looks like part of it, though it's likely not the case because supposedly people saw it with the stripe back in the indigo league anime way before gen 3 when the sprite was introduced
The fruit of the loom logo has 1) a bunch of colors, all being relative to a more cartoony autumn 2) a bunch of food. Some people don't put everything into food groups 3) following number 2 is the leaves. The apple is big and round similar to a pumpkin, so people assume it mentally to be a pumpkin of sorts and add that cornucopia in the back.
Diagnosis: mentally separate creative thought from memory, it'll keep things like this from happening.
I'd never heard of a cornacopia when I was a kid I might see one on a thanks giving card every once in a while but I'd always remembered seeing one on my underwear but eventually I stoped using fruit of the loom and eventually I found an old pair of underwear with no cornucopia I got confused and ended up here.
I think it's because of the leaves which surround the fruit, which subconciously creates the image of the fruit sort of being nested inside some sort of object, and unlike many generic "fruit" logos, the fruit is nicely arranged in a way that makes it seem like a decorative fruit display. so when recalling the logo, and picturing a decorative fruit display nested in an object, it seems natural to imagine a cornucopia.
I recall finding it strange that there was a cornucopia and the name was "Loom". It didn't make sense. Though, I never actually recall examining the logo. I'm totally with you on this video.
What if people are remembering the fictional versions of the logo? It's incredibly possible that film and art companies added a cornucopia to help distance themselves from the official logo, and thus lowering the chances for a lawsuit. Given the main people making this confusion are people in the age range for these movies and shows, it's possible they're getting the actual logo mixed up for the fictional one. I remember a version of the logo with many of the fruits found in the fake logo.
Came back to remind everyone that the universes definitely combined. I remember these cause i used to have bowel issues as a kid and saw that cornucopia in my briefs a lot. Addendum, mr monopoly definitely had a monocle, and mandela died in 94.
This could be a US only phenomenon, it's very unusual to see a cornucopia in the UK, thanksgiving not being a thing here. I never thought of the fruit of the loom logo having a cornucopia and suspect most of the UK population would say the same.
That's not at all how I pictured you would look like but exactly how I would picture how you would look like!! I've been watching you since I was 10 years old during the YTP days. You're an awesome YouTuber!
In my job I decorate FOTL t-shirts, I have been doing it for 10 years and if you told me to describe the logo from memory I would tell you that it was just the fruit
in the movie “driving miss daisy”, starring morgan freeman, in the final scene, when miss daisy is in the nursing home, there is a ‘fruit of the loom’ esque looking logo on the wall, seemingly a decoration, complete with cornucopia. could there be that there is another design that is similar looking to the fruit of the loom logo?
Dude as soon as you showed it i literally said out loud "yeah" like it made more sense like that lol. I just thought that they got rid of it. So it never had the cornucopia? Lmao
Best guess... it did exist but fruit of the loom removed it, wiped the internet, and burned the clothing In order to prevent being canceled over the cultural insensitivity of using a Native American icon for retail
I freaked me out when I saw this because I thought that a lot of companies where just rebranding, and when they said it never existed I was like bull shit because I remember having them as a kid in the 80s and 90s
A theory of mine is that the brain whenever it got uncomfortable with so much available space and with so much available space it automatically fills the empty space with something that is large and fits in the theme of the object in whatever means possible
I don't think most people have studied the fruit of the loom logo in detail. I assume when they try to recall it, they remember (probably mostly in part by the name) that it has a group of fruit and their brain just fills in the gaps. I've learned not to fully trust my memory, because the more we realize we're very commonly misremembering these details makes me wonder how common this actually is in humans
You know what I remember I was getting shirts and underwear for school I think I was in a Walmart and we got Fruit of the Loom and I looked down on the tag it had a cornucopia.Thats the main memory I had with the cornucopia, but there are some other memories with the cornucopia though not as clear.
It seems like anyone who didn't want a copyright claim, like someone making a knockoff or a reference to Fruit of the Loom, added the cornucopia because it would make the logo different but wouldn't get in the way of how recognizable it was, and then people remembered those alternative brands and references as the real thing. If the people referencing it in cartoons put it there because they remembered it that way too, then I guess that's where it gets freaky.
At first I remembered it being there, but then I determined it was likely just a coloring page I did when I was young, likely with the same or similar stock image
There was at some point a budget clothing brand that used a logo with cornucopia. Most memories of the FOTL logo with a cornucopia are from the age period where you had to ask an adult what an object was. This is same age period where you may have been shopping for back to school clothes at major chain store. I believe that Target,K-Mart and Wal-Mart sold a budget brand in the 90s that we are mistaking for FOTL.
In the case of pennies, coins are minted all the time as old coins tarnish and corrode. It's entirely plausible that different word placements were used
i never paid attention to it so i don’t really remember the cornucopia, but i did have a painting in my childhood home that had a cornucopia with apples and grapes so maybe people with similar decorations around thanksgiving would remember that given the art style of the logo
This is making me think that illegal copies of Fruit of the Loom had the cornucopia added by mistake by the bootleggers. But without a pair with that logo, or the packaging, its just a guess.
Wow, this is weird, I remember it to. I remember it being on the packaging but I don’t remember about it being on the underwear itself, though it might of been, I remember it from the early to mid 2000s where I was 3 to 5 years old.
There was a cornucopia. I do remember hearing that Mandela died as a kid. I remember it being Berenstein and pronounced barren steen. I also remember 2012 being fucking weird and everyone was spiritual and into paranormal shit briefly.
Maybe the company used an unlicensed or not properly licensed logo long ago and they don't want to admit that they did so as that could open them up to a lawsuit. One designer said coke stole his logo design and fought them for years.
They might have also used the logo on some product labels long ago and nobody kept a record of that and nobody at the company remembers now. Also for it being easy to find proof, I doubt many pairs of underwear briefs from 40-50 years ago still exist as they get worn out after a few years.
the solution is to add the cornucopia to the logo and make the word "loom" a synonym of cornucopia. make our memories retroactivly correct. its rude for it to be otherwise
eh. You learn about Thanksgiving in school at a young impressionable age and you see images of various fruit in a cornucopia and then you notice the Fruit of the Loom tag around the same time. Then 15-20 years go by and you never think of them again until this comes up. Everyone is just misremembering.
If I was to guess why we all think there was a cornucopia behind the logo, is when we were taught what a cornucopia was as children (learning about thanksgiving normally) a traditional picture and layout of a cornucopia looked similar to what the fruit of the loom logo is. Like most people say, the cornucopia looks right behind it. It doesn’t feel out of place.
I think I remember a November calendar having a picture of fruit with a cornucopia when I was a kid. Still hard to believe the FOTL logo didn't have one tho
In my opinion the Mandela effect is a justification of false memories in an attempt to spare a person's own pride. They refuse to admit that they're memories are fallible and continue on in their own arrogance.
2:17 Go straight down from the man driving the yellow-and-white sailed sailboat, until you hit the first green/white striped towel barrier thing. Waldo's on the right end of the barrier.
This sort of thing is why it annoys me when artists get annoyed about people taking photos and videos at concerts. It's the only way you're going to remember it in a few years
I literally raised my hand in class when I was little to smugly explain that "it's called a loom" when seeing a cornucopia. Because I'd seen it on my clothes a million times before - fruit coming out of a cornucopia, labelled "fruit of the loom".
they do, i live in the uk and ive snagged some of my dads tshirts which happened to have the fruit of the loom logo on it. For some reason i can remember it both w the cornucopoa and without it.
"Unfortunately both memory and underwear are doomed to wind up permanently stained with something we don't quite understand" thank you for this sentence I will cherish it
I honestly just think this and the mandela effect was the biggest shitpost ever made, with people trying to bait a lot of people, where everyone plays even if they dont realized it yet.
Mandela effect dictates it'd be impossible to give you proof because it wouldn't exist on this timeline. Basically if we crossed into a new timeline, then it never had one here and looking up old clothing will not have it. It is a very insidious glitch. You are meeting two shards and overwriting differences. If you did that to your files they would all move in and any files that swear you were different will have no way of believing you or any attempt at proving it to them them.
I remember it being Double Stuft Oreos. Google Double Stuft Oreos and see how many people spell it that way without even mentioning the Mandela Effect.
Emp, I really like your content but God fucking damn is the Mandela effect stupid. I know you are just trying to explore the topic but it’s infuriating to hear about people who have bad memories convince themselves they are privy to some secret information (or more often are far too confident in their own abilities), then being emboldened by other idiots who are ‘so sure dude, I swear it used to XYZ’ Wish people would stop encouraging doublethink. Schizo or state actors, you decide.
Using Kazam as an explanation for the Sinbad movie is really bad. Because I watched the Shaq Movie religiously and I still remember a Sinbad movie and know that I'm not mixing the 2. I actually vividly remember a scene from the Sinbad movie.
So the mandela effect at its most basic is the development of a big-scale collective false memory of an object, image, sound, and like with this logo one parts that is quite specific.
In an old study, Psychologists were able to convince the majority of people surveyed that they had ridden in a hot air balloon when they hadn't. All it took was a 5 minute fake photo. Some people even gave vivid details about the event that never took place. The human memory is actually quite terrible.
Testing has been done on mice related to taste in cherries but genetic memory like remembering words or anything related to something you would see in an assassins creed game is impossible
Wait no I remember now. I remember being young and feeling like a horn of plenty belonged on the logo because I didn't see a pile of food without some kind of basket anywhere else.
Add that to kid brain not knowing what a loom was and boom, false memory.
Maybe I can end this once and for all. Here's a video that shows a pack of underwear I bought that has the cornucopia on it: https://youtu.be/d0tGBCCE0lc
@Egg T You can't say it's useless if you're only learning of it from this comment. I sure did, and golly am I glad to have gotten that "learn something new" off my to do list today, thank you OP
I did there pretty decent good sound like the charger and it stays alive for a while , bit of small cord to charge and it makes a weird sound when it dies
I’ve heard that they’re no better than those bootleg AirPods you can buy at Kroger. I kind of have to respect them a bit since they pay youtubers more than the site itself does at this point though
I may have some underwear lying around somewhere old enough to have this logo...
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Im just watching the movie casino and right after the part on the golf range with the planelanding, there is a fruitstore with a cornucopia and fruits on it. i dont know if thats an easteregg or maybe its one reason why people wrongly remember.
When you tell someone they remember something that they dont, you have planted that memory in their head and when their brain pieces it together trying to remember "was that there" you get "i remember the cornucopia too".
When he was talking about the relevance of the word cornucopia I was like “haha hunger games” and then he goes “...or from the place in the hunger games” I fell backwards in my chair
I haven't worn nor have I even remotely thought of Fruit of the Loom underwear since Elementary School, I'm 20 now, and I definitely remember that Cornucopia being there.
I think the Mandela effect reminds us that reality is not as concrete as we think it is. Why minor things appear to change as our consciousness moves through time? That is the question
Every year before school started in September, my mom would take me to Sears to get new school clothes for the year. This was in the early to mid 70s for Elementary and Jr High school. I could swear there was a cornucopia on these at that time. Both on plain white t shirts and the tighty whiteys.
@Allin Rockwell If you use white supremacist dogwhistles such as 'the country my people and ancestors fought for and built', and imply that America is for white european men, hell yeah I'm going to call you racist. Racism is not just hatred, it's simply treating someone different because of their skin color. And saying your country is only for a specific race implies other races do not belong, which is pretty racist all things considered.
@Groyps My father lived under the fascist dictatorship of Trujillo. He watched as some of his Hatian friends were slaughtered in the Parsley massacre. He lives in permanent regret that he did nothing to stop the dictator, nothing to challenge his power. He just sat back and pretended it wasn't his problem until it affected him personally.
What you are doing is exactly what he did, exactly what I vowed never to do. You have no argument, so you attack me. You are, perhaps inadvertently, defending fascists by not taking a side. Or maybe you know this already. It doesn't matter, the end result is the same either way.
I will not stand idly by as fascism rears its hideous head, all the while ignorant centrists deny that it's even there. All the while ignorant centrists refuse to pick a side against it. Fascism is a rabid dog. There is no reasoning with people who want you dead for the color of your skin and the content of your character. There is no reasoning with people who only wish to oppress, not to provide anything for their community. There is no reasoning with people who, at the end of the day, follow an ideology built entirely on hate. By not standing in their way, you clear the path ahead.
I have one more saying that rings true to this very day. What you are trying to do, I can see the reasoning behind it. You wish to avoid conflict, I presume. Political violence must be avoided at all costs. No one wants the people they love to be attacked simply for their beliefs. But even the Reverend Dr. King Jr. utilized violence. King's words were backed by the Panthers, by Malcolm X. If the government did not listen, he had a fallback option. He avoided it at all costs, and thankfully never had to use it, but it was there all the same.
But this isn't simply a dispute on where tax dollars should go. This isn't a petty debate on who should be president. Fascism is a cancer, and by ignoring it, the tumors grow and grow until it reaches the very brain, in which case all is lost.
You try to do good, but in the end, everyone gets hurt. After all, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. My ancestors all did nothing against tyrannical regimes. Not my father under Trujillo, not my grandfather under the boot of the US, not my great grandfather under foreign occupation, et cetera. Whether it be through cowardice or pacifism does not matter. The end result is all the same. I am not them. I will not let the nation I call home fall to people who simply wish to destroy, never to build.
The day an honest-to-god fascist takes control of the US, not an opportunist such as Trump, I mean a Proud Boy or someone like them, is the day I, like many before me, and like many will after me, get off my knees and defend those who cannot defend themselves. I hope that day will never come, but one final saying keeps me on my toes.
Whatever causes these sorts of things, it seems to keep happening to me. Just curious, but would anyone else here be surprised to find out that Tim Curry is still alive?
@Dillan Kabetzke Don't take it the wrong way. I have a lot of respect for him, and he's actually one of my inspirations. I had been living under the impression he was gone until just a few weeks ago. I clearly remembered finding out about his passing and everything, being saddened by the news, etc. Honestly, I wonder if I just happened upon one of those trolls people do every now and then, but usually any time I hear news like that I always do a troll check. No idea how it happened, and I don't claim any crazy circumstances beyond some bizarre memory situation I must have.
“Guys guys guys! We’re in a different universe! I know this because this under wear brand, right, I SWEAR it had a different thing on it! You gotta believe me!”
Mandela effect, is the most arrogant theory on the internet. Instead of admitting that their memory is faulty, people on the internet seriously claim that they actually went into a parallel universe.
Yeah, I loved the screen shots of comments from people who were Adam Ant that the logo had that baskety thing in it. Fruit of the Loom jumpers and T Shirts were quite popular here in the early 1990s, there deffo was no cornucopia. LOL at all the idiots who didn't know what a loom is.
Man is so perfect that rather than humor the idea that his memory is faulty he instead suggests that he gained the ability to cross into a parallel world, a concept that we only know as a concept and have no tangible evidence for. Man is never wrong, he knows all and remembers all.
@Mr. Potato Well considering that Ryan guy suggested that we're living in the matrix, it seems a decent amount of people believe crazy ass shit when it comes to explaining the Mandela Effect.
Honestly this video was great but it pissed me off cause I need answers. Not just "everyone had the same wrong memory" what are the odds of that???? How do so many people have the exact same false memory?????
@🌟 Officer Soul Knight Because memory isn't that good, so if people think it looks close enough, they'll think it's the exact same
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@🌟 Officer Soul Knight Because "it fits" to them... but for many others it doesn't. You will only find remarkable some comments that agreed with your beliefs especially on this kind of conspiracy. They are asking "how much people agree with me?" but they are ignoring how much people doesn't agree with them.
His first face reveal was in one of his ytps years back. It was called “Admiral Ackbar’s Traptastic Sextravagana: Episode 3”. A 40+ minute ytp and in my opinion one of the greatest of all time. It’s been removed from his channel but you can find reuploads.
The thing about this is I don’t remember what it looked like but I do remember the logo was pretty symmetrical and with the cornucopia on there it just doesn’t look right
because there's only one color we all see it as when we learn about it and there was a specific way to set it up. for art on images of Thanksgiving...like wheb you set a table, it's always a certain way. images were like that.
This is one of those hidden gem YouTube videos that you never expect you'll enjoy so much. So well researched, scripted, and edited. Great job my dude!
I love the way your brain works. You approached this whole thing in very much the same way I would have and illustrated every point perfectly; this was an incredibly satisfying watch.
I love Emp's transition. The YTP era which he learned to resent, to the complaining era where he discussed the bad things of a lot of things ranging from YouTube to his personal life, to today where Emp brings up and discusses about topics that, while they sometimes aren't too relevant depending on the topic, are made intriguing and interesting by the same surgical precision as he did in his complaining era, which was akin the the likes of the Content Cop himself, Idubbbz.
It's the best evolution of someone I've seen at all.
As someone who has never heard of the brand nor seen their logo I think it's the combination of two phenomena. First of all after seeing the proper logo and the logo with the horn of plenty I think the latter seems to look "right". In my opinion the position of the fruit is the key. The way they are arranged with the horn behind them looks "natural". This might be a result of us remembering how a horn of plenty looks in general and then superimposing this vague memory onto the logo. As for the memories of people asking their parents about the cornucopia it's probably the same situation as with Shazam movie. It's either two memories melted together or a memory of asking about cornucopia with the "memory" of the logo superimposed onto it.
This is one of those Mandela effect things that are very US-specific, especially when it comes to brand recognizance. Fruit of the Loom is not really a big thing in the UK. It's familiar, and I guess it probably exists here, but I recognise it's name as being one of those American brands as opposed to something I recognise as seeing in my daily life as a brand people are wearing. What's funny is, I remember the cornucopia as well, because it just looks right, so I guess it must have been there. But I don't have that much experience with the logo or the brand itself anyway to say for certain. I clicked on this video, because I have no idea what the Hell it was going to be about tbh, and I was simply curious. It's the first I've heard of this phenomenom. It's certainly moreso people in America, reaching into their underwear and seeing the logo near everyday, as opposed to "people all around the world", and that's going to have a big difference of brand recognition
Reminds me of something me and my gf experienced. We'd been going to the store and getting what we THOUGHT was called "Herbert's Lemonade." Then one day we looked at the bottle and it said "Hubert's." Both of us had remembered it saying Herbert's, but here was the apparent correct name. Weird stuff man
Well Cornucopias usually have a bunch of fruit in them, and so seeing a bunch of fruit would probably entail a cornucopia. We don't have time to remember each and every fruit in the image and bundle it up as "fruit" Plus, thanksgiving is celebrated by millions of Americans, and it's such an iconic symbol that in my mind it's perfectly logical to think there was a cornucopia there. Except me because I didn't even know what fruit of the loom was until this point
ive seen fruit of the loom things all my life and i never once saw a cornucopia or thought there was one. i am confused. the only placebo ive really been part of per se was the berenstein / berenstain bears. other than that i havent really fallen under them if that makes sense.
I actually noticed this missing cornucopia about two weeks ago at Target, never read anything about it on the internet.... I saw it two weeks ago at Target, and felt like something seemed.... off about the logo. Thought at that moment that maybe they redesigned the logo to something more simple, but it wasn't until a week later that someone brought this up on 4Chan, and just thought to myself, holy shit they never redesigned the logo?!
I always had Fruit of the Looms as a kid, and I have zero memory of a cornucopia being there. That that was a Mandela effect really surprised me, because I never once experienced that false memory.
I clearly remember when I was about 8 or 9 being really confused in the store because some of the underwear had the cornucopia and some didn’t. Like I picked up one package and it had the horn, but the second kind of underwear didn’t have it
I remember seeing the fruit of the loom commercials at the end of it when logo appeared 100% cornucopia was their. Yes it absolutely matters if there was one or not it proves the m. effect is real and timelines are being messed with. Leading to the only conclusion that time travel is real. How could it not matter. 🤷♂️
I have a theory of the reason the cornucopia is being misremembered. When we see pictures of the cornucopia they are very dull in color. The fruit of the loom logo is also fitting that dull color pallete. Combined with the fruit can lead people to misremembering the brand as having such a minute detail
I remember that just 2 months ago i saw the "Fruit of the loom" logo on an underwear going to WalMart and i said "huh, where's the cornucopia? Maybe they reinvented their image to make it more simple" and moved on. I'm just shocked that it never existed wtf
I've been able to give very reasonable answers to all other popular Mandela affects. Even the famous "Luke, I am your father," one. Darth Vader never said "Luke". I remember watching Star Wars for the first time in like 2006 and I was anticipating the famous line I had heard so many of my friends quote. I remember being mildly perplexed when I heard Vader say "No, I am your father" instead. I shrugged it off at the time. People subconsciously put "Luke" at the beginning of the quote because it was such a powerful statement about Luke himself. It's also an incredibly simple way to add context to your quote so naturally the mind says "Luke". Arguably one of the most famous twists in all of cinema. I've heard my friends misquote other less famous movie quotes before like some of Thanos's lines from Avengers, but the Star Wars one is special because it was the most popular. It was such a widespread false memory that even James Earl Jones himself was fooled by it when recalling the line in a later interview. He probably had loads of fans asking him to say "Luke, I am your father" whenever they met him in person. Maybe he even signed some t shirts with the phrase.)
The fruit of the loom cornucopia, however, is the only one I haven't been able to explain and it bothers me.
Hi, foreign person with no prior knowledge of fruit of the loom, perhaps the vauge familiarity of the cornucopia image is a good reason? It feels more familiar to me dispite the fact Ive never seen it before!
I think when looking at an image of a cornucopia with fruits only (no pumpkin or signs of a seasonal theme), the first thing to come to mind is fruit of the loom and your brain just sees it in that way at that point forward because no one really pays attention to the tag of your underwear thus creating that effect of the cornucopia being there the whole time.
As an Australian I never saw a cornucopia before or after seeing the underwear (which I remember there being a cornucopia on) so my brain would have no association of a cornucopia with fruits yet, I’ve always pictured the Fruit of the Loom logo with a cornucopia.
I have a vague memory of being in a supermarket and seeing some logo of a brand that sold spices i think. And the logo was basically what people are misremembering. So maybe that could be one reason how people are inserting a cornucopia.
I legit remember being on 1 of those how to draw websites and sketching pikachu with a black end tail. There is literally 0 chance of me ever finding the drawing but if your gonna tell me his tail is not black tipped then I'm fucking done trusting this universe
Pretty sure there's a similar cornucopia in The Land Before Time musical scene with the young herbavore's feasting on leaves, fruits & berries. That's 90's, early 2000's.
I really have this memory in my mind, as a kid I saw my underwear and asked my mom what that twisted horn was, and why was it next to the fruits, she told me its name and why, and it was how I learned what a cornucopia was. I live a fucking lie. We all do, this is proof... We live in the fucking Matrix and thay was just a massive glitch!.
Is nobody gonna talk about Emp revealing his entire face?
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The Keeper2020-12-26 03:29:02 (edited 2020-12-26 03:29:40 )
I remember getting fruit of the loom when I was a kid I remember the brown thing..I’m pretty sure the brown thing is real..seriously lol..I don’t even know what the brown thing is but I’m pretty sure Iv seen it before
It was Bernstein bears not bernstain bears . I know it cause Stein is my uncle's last name and I always noticed his last name was in the title of the books
This comment is for all of the 5-8 years old children who examined the tag of their underwear closely on one fateful day. All of us examined the words in their style FRUIT of the LOOM... FRUIT... LOOM.. what is a loom, is this thing behind the fruit the loom? This experience is CEMENT in the education of myself. The only time people like me have ever thought of it again is when someone said there is no cornucopia on the tag. This triggers one of the most vivid memories any of us have regarding looking at a clothing tag.
You tell me why that matters at all. I just know this one is an intentionally strong memory that has been negated by aftereffects since its existence. It stands out in that regard. We examined it closely, and not just at a glance. CLOSELY. We LEARNED using it. It became a part of us, and now it never existed. You tell me why that matters at all.
What bothers me is that cornucopia is drawn exactly the way that looks right. The art style, size, and exact placement look like I "remember" However, I'm aware that I'm wrong because mandela effect is bullshit
a'ight. So far this is the only one that works on me. All of these false memories people have generally did not happen to me, but why this one? It's so specific. Oh well.
I used to work at a Fruit of the Look manufacturing plant. I can say with 100% certainty that in the early 2005-2006 era there were a certain amount of blue underwear that came with a tag that included a cornucopia in their logo. As a matter of fact, my boss’ office had a big portrait of the logo that included said cornucopia. I might even have a few of the underwear laying around, but I’ll have to check. Part of the reason that the company doesn’t want people to know that it used to have a cornucopia is because I’m making all of this up, and I’m hoping to waste some people’s time with this absolute nonsense. But seriously guys, don’t believe everything you read on the internet.
My only guess for the reason people think that the logo had a cornucopia is Greek mythology. As someone who was raised in Greece I remember around the 3rd grade when we started learning Greek mythology there was a story about Athena or another goddess that brought people a cornucopia that had unlimited food. Most of the food was grapes, apples and pears if I remember correctly. If all those people learnt Greek mythology they would probably confuse the fruit of the loom logo because it resembled something from Greek mythology
This is whack I've never really thought about this logo so I dont specifically remember a cornucopia but the image with one looks so much more familiar than the logo without it
the fruit of the loom brown object is actually just someone else's shit stain shaped in such a way that it adds to the logo. now you all get to suffer with me
Holy shit, I've just relistened WarioWare inc. song before watching your vid, and here you are listening to it as well in raycons ad. How's that even possible?
My bet is that there was probably an off brand product that did feature a cornucopia and people mistake their early memories of this off brand for the real product.
If it were simply a rebranding or a knockoff then nobody would be talking about it to begin with. There would be no mystery.. lol
You see, the thing is there is no "off brand" with a cornucopia. At least not one that's popular, and there's a lot and I mean a LOT of people that remember it with the cornucopia. You don't realize how many memories are associated with this that don't make sense unless it WAS there. A lot of people have shared their anectodes online about this if you're willing to research it more ;p
I personally think it's cuzz there's so many realitys and we shift to different realitys every second soo think it's from us shifting to a different reality
dude im a 14 year old from britain who only ever saw this on school plain polo t-shirts and even I despite not knowing what it was have always ALWAYS seen the basket at the back.
We might be overcomplicating this a little. I think its just us confusing the logo with clip art images of cornucopias when we had to learn about thanksgiving.
Man this reminded me of the fact that my mother woke me up out of my sleep because she claimed I was the reason her boyfriend broke up with her because there was another dudes underwear which where fruit of the loom
Problem: You got the fruit of the loom logo wrong.
Solution: literally everyone else in the world is wrong except for you because at some unknown point you were transported to an alternate universe where everything else in the world is the same except the fruit of the loom logo.
The thing is, I asked my brother without showing him the video and he said the logo had a basket. So a ton of people are getting it """right"""" (wrong).
@Bootthis Nigr Talk of alternate reality is intrinsically linked to the foundation of the question of life and religion. However if you would prefer I refrain from talking the subject to you, I will abide by your wish from this point on.
@Gronn no it wasnt, i perfectly remember it being a video about a company that made storm boards for a sturdier cealing in your house, how can you forget something like that man, that was one of emps greatest videos, it even had a cameo from inernet historian smh
Its actually not completely impossible for people to developed memories of something that they didn't experience. Some famous examples are from 9/11, where people may remember vivid memories of being there even when they weren't even in the state at the time. It could be that those people saw the cornucopia on something else, then looked at their underwear and their subconscious combined the two without them realizing it.
maybe its the reverse, we see fruits coming out of a cornicopia when and when we see the fruits of the loom logo, we think "there should be a cornucopia there"
Same, but I guess we just transferred into a parallel dimension or realm or whatever, where it never existed, it did in the original one, but not this one.
"Unfortunately both memory and underwear are doomed to wind up permanently stained with something we don't quite understand" I hate this quote, so, so much.
I'm about to dig through the whole house to find this logo... edit: Only found a more recent item, it does not have the horn... maybe ill find something else tho.
8:16 - There's a Mexican-American Grocer's Association (MAGA), which started in 1977 and thus predated a certain presidential campaign by nearly 40 years
It's stein. The cornucopia was there. Mandela died in prison. Rev. 21 = LION shall lay down with the lamb. I VIVIDLY remember watching the Kazaam! Movie. S. America is too far east. Andorra did not exist. and finally.... Pineapple will never belong on pizza.
Nice try kid, but I was already well-written when Looney Tunes was still playing on television and I recall being upset regularly about the misspelling. There are others as well. You will not solve this puzzle with mind tricks. I have tried.
Man I tell you there are few people I respect more than emp probably my favorite YouTuber since 2014 I don't normally recommend youtubers but I do ol emp I hope things go well on the downward spiral for emp and everyone else
So interestingly, I had never even heard of fruit of the loom or seen its logo before watching this video; but even I have a vague memory of seeing a cornucopia on some kind of logo as a child and wondering what that thing was supposed to be
Sick documentary. Thanks for another cool video. I've been a fan on and off for a while but I finally subbed because really like the approach you take to your videos: they're just topics you enjoy. I've seen a lot of lesser YouTubers crumble under the weight of having one successful video and then pandering to that video's crowd and you've always actively discouraged that. Good luck with your next video!
Let me just say, I hadn't heard of you until I saw the Dale Earnhardt video a few months ago, and now I'm hooked. Your videos are all individual masterpieces. Greatest youtuber of all time.
Yeah things can change pretty quickly in life and it always fascinates me how another generation grew up in an entirely different environment than me. Its going to feel so weird once Im old to reminiscine about the mundane things I enjoyed back in my early adulthood. Sadly some things also do get erased from the internet...for example the entire channel of leafy. Honestly, its a shame. I understand that he crossed a lot of lines but channels like his, edgy people just ranting in the developing years of youtube, are cherishable. Although I dont agree with a lot of stuff that he said in his videos, the double standard of youtube who deletes his channel but not others who do the exact same things is honestly frustrating. Its so annoying that everything on the internet and especially on big sites like youtube or instagram is so heavily monitored. The internet is not like the wild west, a free place, like it once was and thats what saddens me the most. I would really enjoy a follow up on the Leafy video!
Yo emp I just wanna say how much I love how you present the videos. How you can deliver feeling in your videos. Your skills in using visuals to tell the story is something you do very well. Idk just wanted to comment saying i love your shit. AND UR YTP's
I think because the fruit of the loom logos used to be just line art with no color, it was a lot easier to see the grapes as a cornucopia. Especially when you see it from far away.
I remember there being a cornucopia from waaay back in one of their tongue-in-cheek commercials. Anyway, Fruit of the Loom should just throw the cornucopia in because it makes it their logo look way better.
The Mandela effect is fascinating to me. I love to go around asking my friends and family how they remember things and whatnot. My mother clearly remembers Mandela dying back in her past instead of him dying more recently. I've also remembered my mother talking about people who have died, only to find out a few years later that these people weren't dead at all. Of course, my mother saying certain movie stars had died could've just been her making a mistake.
The only Mandela effect I've actually experienced myself was the Berenstain vs. Berenstein Mandela effect. I know it was brushed off a bit in the video as a mistake of people inserting the more common spelling into the actual name, but I disagree. When I was 4, I was learning how to spell my last name. My name has an "ei" in it that sounds like "ee" instead of saying it like the word "eye." As a result, I misspellt all words with "ie" as an "ei" in them because, when I pronounced them, they made an "ee" sound just like the "ei" in my last name.
I'd get cranky whenever my mother pointed out the error, because as a 4 year old, I logically decided that because the "ei" in my last name was pronounced as "ee", it surely meant every word in the English language followed the same rules. One day, when I was still about 4, when I was reading my Berenstain Bears book on my own in my living room, it occurred to me that "Berenstein" despite having an ei in it, still was pronounced with the same "ee" sound, just like my last name.
It's a pretty clear memory since I was like, "ha, that shows you, mom." I've always remembered it since I had so much trouble spelling words because of my last name. I think it's legitimate to believe it as a real Mandela effect.
I remember vividly driving past this apartment complex when I was 4/5 and in front of the apartment is a giant cornucopia model and remember asking what it was and then realizing it was just like the underwear. I understand almost all the other Mandela effects being mid remembered but this one I just can’t
I distinctly remember the cornucopia because I remember we had just learned about it in school (because it was around Thanksgiving) and I was happy I was able to identify what it was as a kid.
I remember a similar "Mandela effect" thing happening with a grade requirement for something at my school. It required a grade of 88 or over, but me and my mother both SWORE it was 87.
It did have a cornucopia, I have SPECIFIC memories of seeing it on my underwear when i sat on the toilet as a kid and wondering why they had a cornucopia behind fruit instead of like a thanksgiving setting. That memory is 100% specific and real.
I dont know man...I think even if we had "pictures" of the cornucopia, (just like the physical objects people can no longer find) any video/photo proof we may have had would also somehow change or become digitalized and transmuted into something in which we swore was/wasn't there before. IMO, There is something very strange going on with reality itself that a majority of people are unaware of (many by choice)...but hopefully soon, this will all change.
I can confirm that I referred the word "loom" as the cornucopia in the background. I never knew it was called a cornucopia till someone told me it never existed.
Bags of fruits are typically shown with cornucopia, even if it’s a long and rarely used word. It actually is similiar to the monocle. The name may be hard to remember but you don’t need to associate a name with something to think of it
horrible, thanks. i wondered if the hannaford (grocery store) logo had a cornucopia that was confusing me but it doesn't have one either (not sure about old versions. does have a triangle shape though). i wouldn't swear on my life about this but i really expect there to be a logo from my childhood with a cornucopia. fruit of the loom's logo also reminds me of thanksgiving coloring sheets i could have encountered (like for a class activity) but that's not a universal experience, especially considering non-americans.
I’m gonna ask my friends and family to draw the fruit of the loom logo. If they try and draw a cornucopia without me mentioning it, then SOMETHING IS UP.
Is it weird that i didnt even know people thought the Fruit of the Loom logo had a cornucopia? I never saw one in the logo, nor do i ever remember thinking there was one.
I remember the cornucopia because i got fruit of the loom at hanaford and they were surrounded by other logos one of which was a cornucopia making me think they were both together
i love your videos dude! but im sorry, i actually do have very vivid memories of Jiffy peanut butter. Your evidence is all reasonable but i had day to day experience with Jiffy and it was definitely none of the examples you provided.
Something funny happened 1 month ago. Me and my parents went out to buy a new stovetop. We went around the stores looking at them and we saw one that was pretty cheap but I wanted to be smart and said "allright this looks great but... let's keep browsing the stores, we might find something better" and since I don't trust my memory I took a pic so I wouldn't forget the price. We kept browsing and didn't found anything better so we came back and bought that one. All well and good, it got packed and it was sealed and when the day it came for me to install it I took it out and noticed it was missing one burner. I looked for it everywhere but couldn't find it "there's no way it was missing a burner. I saw it, my mom saw it, my dad saw it, even my brother was inspecting it just now. There's no way 4 ppl would miss this". I considered the chance of us missing the fact it was missing a burner so then i tought "what a ripoff!!" so I was planning on going to the store and ask for my burner thinking "I have a picture!! I have proof that there were 4 burners in it!!" So I took out my phone and you may guess what happened. There was 1 burner missing and the stove was on cut price because of that. That's why it was cheaper than in other stores. Ofc I felt like an idiot afterwards but it comes to show you that you cannot trust your own memory. Not even from a few days before, hell not even from a few hours ago. Your mind will just assume things.
Not even a few minutes before either. Moments after I watched this video and saw the logo so many times, my mind remembered the grapes being central to the logo as well as the apple not existing. Then I remembered "Oh yeah, there was an apple wasn't there?" :P
It would have been a great april fools if you made this video and the logo actually had it, if you could do something similar on another product supposedly with Mandela affect links and present something else as the truth that would really get a lot of people, Brb got to check whether my one fruit of the loom shirt has a cornucopia
I think seeing a cornucopia behind an abundance of fruits or vegetables, especially framed with leaves like the fruit of the loom logo, is also just a natural inferrence like seeing a monocle on the monopoly man. All the cultural depictions of fruit of the loom parodies with cornucopia probably contributed to it.
i don't agree with your claims for why it doesn't make sense for people to have imagined it. i think it makes perfect sense. fruit goes with cornucopias and it adds balance
i remember looking at a pack of fruit of the loom underwear in walmart and just wondering what was on the logo and this has been bothering me for weeks
That’s crazy I remember the cornucopia but I wasn’t aware that it wasn’t the logo. It’s especially strange because the logo with the cornucopia is the exact one I remember
The (erroneous) parodies and references are more common in our lives than the original logo. Like how we remember "Luke I am your father" and Seinfeld's airplane food set.
This is fascinating, but just on a psychological level. I guess parallel universes could exist, but why and how would a part of the population suddenly switch to a different universe, where the only difference is one letter here, some logo there? That makes no sense. Not to mention that some of the differences simply couldn't change; Berenstain is the name of the writer, so for it to be different, something would've needed to changed ages ago, and that would have wide and far lasting consequences. Believing in all that, without a reasonable theory for why it happens and the physics of it all, is far more boring tbh. It's almost like saying "it's magic". I WISH it was paraller universes, but I need more than just belief and faith to get excited about the idea. Memory is such a fascinating thing, and the brain is just beautiful. It's something we can actually study and realistically theorize, I don't understand how people can just brush it off, they're missing out.
i think its because the logo with the cornucopia looks good without it it looks kinda weird so our minds just fill in the empty space thats also why we dont think other just random things of fruit should have a cornucopia because to us those look just fine or not thats just what i think
I literally only know what a cornucopia is because of runescape honestly, a lot of people are likely remembering getting a cornucopia in runescape, being really confused and asking their parents. Idk how underwear would tie into that though. Probably because EoC was coming out soon and both their underwear and runescape were inevitably going to be stained with the most pungent shit ever seen.
I swear I had a black sabbath T-shirt printed on fruit of the loom that had a cornucopia logo, that’s the only time I’ve ever really seen fruit of the loom...
I haven’t worn or seen fruit of the loom since i was very young, but i do remember the cornucopia, what if i’m just remembering a shit stain i made that looked like it?
Fruit of the Loom DID have a cornucopia on their shirt tags in the 90s, however I did indeed live in a third world Eastern European country, fresh out of totalitarian communism, so they were probably bootlegs. Solved.
Im very sure there WAS a cornucopia on the logo. It's the only way I even knew what it was. Almost all mandela effects examples people throw are ones I know they misremember. BUT I REMEMBER VERY WELL THERE BEING A CORNUCOPIA.
THERE May NEVER EVER BE ANOTHER DYNASTY LIKE THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS??????? You kind of touched on it in your smash bros brawl video and this one but it would fit that series perfectly
Mandela effect isn’t real. In High School me and my friends literally made some shit up and everyone remembered it as real. I’m pretty sure we were actually bullying someone but even they believed it.
FotL most well known for underwear? In Eastern Europe their T shirts were (and are in nostalgic memories) still THE shirts with band logos, best for..... IDK how you call them: pics on wax paper you could copy on t shirts with ironing. I had one for about 15 years.
I never really even thought of any of this shit until people bring this shit up. I never would have even been like, "hmm, I remember that logo having X in it!".
It isn't the kind of thing I'd remember. This seems simply like widespread confirmation bias.
I want to say, I know for a fact that brown thing was in the background. How come it’s no longer there? I used to wonder what that thing was called all the time. I know this?...I know this?...
in your refrying dory i always thought that the part you were explaining "use your ears to listen the words that came out of my mouth" i thought there was body parts pngs, at the beggining of the video, I mistook with the ear distorted voices visuALS from the "cringiest cringe that ever cringe"
Sorry guys, side effect from patches in your simulation. Your thread got a little bleak so we had to go back and change a few things in the past. It turns out that Sinbad was not the right man for the job.
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dear rat boy2020-12-04 16:24:54 (edited 2020-12-04 16:40:35 )
Damn that music got me feelin like I'm in a TheRealJims video. Also was that Jerma at the end?
i see this weird triangle with an eye on the top in all kinds of movies, tv shows, music videos, video games. anytime I point it out, I'm told to stop that or that I'm a conspiracy nut or why does it matter? Its weird though because everyone else sees it too...
If a version with the cornucopia does exist, then the knock-off theory is probably the most plausible. I could've sworn I've owned Fruit of the Loom underwear in the past that had the logo on it, and the fact that versions of it with the cornucopia exist in parody means that it either had to have existed at some point in some form, or that the version with the cornucopia is a copyright-friendly version of the logo that's circulated in our media for decades (which would be why that image has instilled itself into the memory of the public consciousness; IE - its a meme).
So it's either that, or parallel universes (which we know is probably bullshit). I don't know how someone could just "misremember" something so distinct, let alone millions of people collectively misremembering such a distinct object in the logo.
This isn't like the monopoly man missing his monocle, Curious George missing his tail, or the discrepancy of how the Berenstain Bears is spelled (that probably formed because children probably thought "stain" was how "stein" was pronounced when they were younger and were learning how to read, and they associated that memory with the Berenstain Bears since its probably the first real instance where they read "stain" and "stein" [after all, English is a pretty complicated language compared to something like Spanish; god knows i wasn't super great in English during high school either, I only started to really give a shit about my writing once I took English Comp in college]).
This is more like how people believe that Parallel Universes have moved the precise location of the Statue of Liberty (yes, that's a real thing that people believe, and they have a good chunk of "evidence" of people in pictures tagged #statue_of_liberty or #liberty_island or some shit where they're either just posed in front of the city or they're posed in front of a flagpole).
He was refering that some people believe that the tip of Pikachu's tail was black since the 90s, and not only the Cosplay Pikachu, but the normal Pikachu too. I used to believe that the tip of Pikachu's tail was black when I was little because I used to watch a lot the Pokemon anime in my childhood, infact, I have a Pikachu keychain from my childhood and somehow, I remember the black tip on it, just for one day, wake up and realize that someone erased the black tip, leaving the tail entirely yellow. What a big surprise I had when I discover Pikachu's tail has always been like that.
I think this is probably solely a result of people asking the question "does the fruit of the loom logo have a cornucopia?" and then the person asked hasn't looked at their underwear so they say it to agree.
My best guess is that somewhere someday somebody bought a knockoff with the Cornucopia logo. I mean, if you look hard enough I’m sure you can find Adidas Jordan shoes.
But for fruit of the loom? That's the cheapo brand everyone got back then. knock offs work for premium items, why knock off something that's already cheap?
What do you mean? Because of Trumps immigration policy? At the end of the day they are an American based company and aren't negatively effective by Trumps policies so I don't see the irony or how it didn't age well. I would say it did age hilariously well.
I know for a fact there was a cornucopia in this logo. I'm 17 and I remember it vividly. Unfortunately there's always gonna be skeptics and deniers who think they know more than we do.. Like shut up you don't know what we saw or experienced lol
I can't really remember exactly when I last saw it, but I'd say it was in the past 6 years at the latest, like maybe around 2015? Or 2014? Somewhere around that timeframe (That also happens to be around the time the Mandela Effect started becoming mainstream, oddly enough)
If you think we mistook some leaves for a cornucopia then you're probably dumber than we are. I mean yeah they were brown but the problem is they're not cone shaped like a cornucopia lol
Also some of us didn't grow up with the old logo so there's that. Some of us remember it specifically in the modern logo, which has green leaves instead of brown. So the brown leaf explanation becomes flawed for anyone that was familiar with the modern logo
@Bidybabies Do you really thing the average person inspects their underwear so closely that they'll tell the difference between some brown leaves and a cornucopia? I think if you imagine the leaves as a cornucopia, with the wide end on the left and the point on the right, it does look very much like a cornucopia when it's shrunk down to the size of a tag. It'll especially look like a cornucopia when put next to a pile of fruit.
So...... Ever think that maybe, just maybe, there's something else going on? Arbitrary things like logos and that, who cares if they changed or not, in the end wholly inconsequential. So..... What about things of consequence?
Okay, I’m no fan of the Mandela effect theory, but I vividly remember spending a good 20 minutes looking at the fruit of the loom logo as a kid. The basket was there. Some of the recreated images here were very close, especially the colorless line art. Also we named a dog jiffy. I had always thought they were two different brands and jiffy went under. Would love a logic based and resin bound explanation for these. Based on reality of course.
I think the confusion comes from the brand name itself. On the logo we see the fruit, but where's the loom? Looms and cornucopias are both objects that we associate with the 18th century, so people just substitute the missing loom with a cornucopia because it makes more sense than an actual loom. Add this false memory into works of popular media, and it's no wonder why so many people remember the logo with a cornucopia now.
Yeah it’s probably a mix of that and Pichu’s tail would be my guess. I remembered it as black too, I specifically remember making Pikachu pixel art in Minecraft, looking up how to make it, and then finding out it wasn’t black but I decided to make it as black anyway because it looked better.
I think maybe the fact that the fruit from the logo has a similar layout to what you would expect from a cornicopia. Plus a cornicopia would it perfectly behind the fruits, and it would round out the color scheme. Honestly I sort of remember the cornicopia and the lack of it. I think it's because your brain, when not paying full attention tries to fill in information and sometimes fails.
I never remembered a cornucopia, and I think there's some points in the video that are a bit too glossed over. Namely, the Capri Sun point is flimsy at best. The art style of the Fruit of the Loom logo combined with the way the fruit looks like it's spilling onto a table or other flat surface resembles a lot of old fall clip art you would see back when that logo is being remembered. It's pretty common to see bunches of fruit with a cornucopia, and I think that's just what's happening here. I think people's memories about asking their parents about a cornucopia probably happened, but they either misremember it having to do with that specific logo or had already developed the misconception when talking about it. I just don't think it's that far-fetched to add a cornucopia in mentally, it's a background detail more similar to the Monopoly monocle than the video gives credit for.
not sure if this applies to anyone else, but when i was in grade school during autumn my teachers would print colour-in pages as a sort of art-assignment to do, and it would always be a bunch of fall fruits, like pumpkins, apples, grapes, and some leaves with a cornucopia in the background.
maybe some people are mixing up similar colour pages with the fruit of the loom logo?
I actually remember the cornucopia as late as around 2015. This is the one that got to me the most, because I actually remember paying attention to the Fruit of the Loom logo. I actually thought that the removal of the cornucopia was just a design change.
I remember the cornucopia. I just assumed they changed it to make it easier for the computer to print a boatload of. I also remembered the movie being Shazam and starring Shaq as the genie. As a kid I assumed that was how Shazam was written in middle eastern. I know now it's called Arabic. I also remembered the monocle, but thought they changed it for the same reason as fruit of the loom.
I just love how reality is made by humans but unaffected by our memory.
This kind of mental plays is what makes me think we've just made up everything because it make sense.
I feel we didn't discover math nor it is the universal language, it's merely the translation we made up to fit our reality, Science is just the best we can do to explain something we will never be able to. We mutate or theories to fit any change we perceive but don't consider the fundamentals are wrong.
But when the fundamentals are on play, even Science people rather go to the "PARALLEL UNIVERSE" argument instead of questioning the bases of all understanding.
I lived near a store that had a fruit of the loom logo on the side of it and I remember asking my mom about what the brown thing behind it was and she said it was a cornicopia. We both remember that like it was yesterday.... Creepy
I don't remember it with a cornucopia. I used to work for Fruit of the Loom at the corporate HQ until October of this year and even the pictures hanging in the corporate office and the samples of clothing designs were sans cornucopia. So I can say I'm pretty sure it never existed in this reality.
The first time I remember seeing a cornucopia was around kindergarden when learning about the not-at-all-violent origins of Thanksgiving so that's probably where this particular.. thing, comes from.
Or the logo with the woven cone was a bootleg brand and we were too dumb as kids to know that.
This has an explanation just like the other Mandela effects you described. There are other fruit logos with a cornucopia (seen on boxes of fruit in grocery stores) with a similar art style and that must be what people are mixing with the fruit of the loom logo
I seriously wonder what people who dont forget their memory think of the mandela effect. I think it would perhaps either prove or disprove this whole Mandela effect being glitches in the matrix. After all, if they remember every single thing that happens in their lives 100%, then they shouldn't ever have any Mandela effect instances happen to them, because they are mess ups in our memory.
I'm starting to wonder if Emp's channel banner is arranged chronologically, or if it's arranged in how open and blustering the mouths of "leadership" are.
I remember seeing the logo as a child and thinking that it needed a cornucopia, if not for that memory coming back to me I'd be under the full influence of the mandela effect
I think most cases of the Mandela Effect can be explained by Pop Culture references and media portrayals.
We see the logo so many times in movies and TV to where it's just close enough to trick us into thinking it's the real deal. Might even be unintentional, they have to dodge copyright, after all.
It's just like the monopoly man's monocle. Here's a scene of fruit layed out, how many scenes of fruit have a bowl or something to hold them in? A cornucopia may not seem like an everyday item, but it's culturally significant, at least for Americans. How many of you colored in that exact scene in grade school? Thanksgiving day, draw everything your thankful for and put it in this cornucopia. It's practically been ingrained in the social unconscious and from a young age as well.
I think it's because the leaves in the background of the logo used to be brown, so when you see them as green in the modern logo it feels like something behind it is missing.
I remember the Berenstein Bears SONG, and books, from the PBS, cartoon, I think. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it's very strange this is such a debated topic that several people remember so vividly, because I thought I was an outlier or it was a joke that it wasn't "Stein." So did almost everyone I know. Probably fallible memory, sure, but... Many South Africans who suffered from Apartheid say Mandela died in the 80's in prison. That blows my mind, because I also remember learning about him dying in prison in highschool, in 4th mod Social Studies, Mr. Charles. Things are strange. There are anomalies we don't understand, I'm not going. To concede to either possibility, because I try not to be paranoid but then again debating universal continuity with no "proof" sounds insane.
Someone recorded Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back when it came out in movie theatres in the 1980's and Darth Vader did actually say "Luke, I am your father". When I watched that video, it actually blew my mind. I can't seem to find it anymore, but it makes me believe these corporations purposefully do switch their logos without telling anyone and get rid of any evidence. Not all of them, but atleast a few.
The town where I’m from had a local grocery store that had a logo that looked like the fruit of the loom logo, so I always thought fruit of the loom owned some random grocery store
I don't believe the cornucopia was ever there and can't remember ever explicitly seeing a logo with it, yet the version with the cornucopia just feels right. I think it's because the cornucopia has the same art style as the fruit and doesn't stand out as something that obviously shouldn't be there (e.g. the knockoff where the cornucopia takes up 60% of the logo space). Additionally, the logo of an underwear company is one of those things that everyone has seen, but virtually no one would have put in the effort to memorize it.
I think the art style for the logo looks like kids' coloring sheets we'd do around Thanksgiving with lots of fruits in them. Maybe that's what put the idea in peoples' heads and it would explain why it's remembered from peoples' childhoods?
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Lord of Siberia2020-12-03 10:22:04 (edited 2020-12-03 10:22:32 )
A buddy of mine and I have been binging jerma streams and hearing this 12:33 after taking a break kinda freaked me out
I’m old enough that I remember the 70’s and I definitely remember the cornucopia. I also remember berenstein as I was fascinated by the name and had multiple pronunciations in my head.
I remember think it had an st sound or scht sound. So I had stine shtine steen or schteen. Never did I se an A in their.
Honestly, I think the reason so many people remember the cornucopia is because of the logo art style. The art style is just so similar to old timey illustrations, and I dunno, it just seems like that’d be a factor
I know about Pikachu, Pikachu's ears are black at the tip, when you try to draw it from memory you paint the tail just like the ears, also considering that the beginning of the tail is also dark, one thing tends to be mixed with the other
It's more than likely due to the overwhelming presence of Thanksgiving imagery in early development, marketing, and advertising which has the same set-up with an overflowing horn of plenty. Mandela effect takes over.
The funny thing about the berenstain bears thing, I don't recall anyone ever pronouncing it "bear in stain"... Growing up we called it "bear in stein". Or "steen"... The justification for the spelling just being misrecognized, seems odd. I just think they remember everyone's struggling to pronounce the EI lettering, and either over or under emphasizing the e.
Although I'll say the justification as a transfer to a different universe.. is um... A bit to unfalsifiable to me.
I think some of my Mandela Effects that are mainstream came from hearing about them from people. Like I never cared enough about them in the past to be sure on how they looked so I'm asuming I was filling in the blanks and I thought I remembered wrong, doesn't explain my unique/mostly false memories though
Until you made this video I had never noticed that the logo didn't have a cornucopia I was born in 1994 I remember it being there I learned the term as a grade schooler because of the logo asking my parents.
How come I never remembered a cornucopia in the logo, When I was younger I always thought that The Fruit of the Loom logo looked similar to The Olive Garden logo in my head.
one of the most salient M.E.s for sure; though because it's something far more paltry than the car JFK was in it's typically laughed off when cited as evidence for said phenomenon
We had to draw company logos for an art class when I was in elementary school, I remember because I fucked up the cornucopia I was supposed to draw. I also had the tag for my shirt at the time in front of me, which is what I was trying to copy.
No there was Sinbad as a genie. Look it up. I watched it on when Netflix was sending discs and movies in the mail. I know that movie was real I loved that movie. I know I seen that movie.
Disregarding the mandela effect, the cornucopia logo just looks better. Any brain trained on a left to right language is going to read the leaves, apple, white grapes, and purple grapes as downward tilting or "negative". An upward tilting, positive cornucopia balances the rest of the image (and adds a warm neutral to rest your eye!)
Something kinda relating to this: The Beach Boys have a song called Vega-tables and there’s an early version of the song that is referred to as the Cornucopia Version, with lyrics relating to a cornucopia. Thought I might just share that
Really thought this video was gonna say the reason it was removed was because of some leftist thanksgiving outrage. Goes to show you how primed to prepare for people being offended the internet has made me.
isnt there a crap ton of old pictures of horns of plenty that are stylistically to some iterations of the fruit of the loom logo? as in they have the wood block print with flat colors look, alot of boomers and the like would have grown up seeing that stuff in decorations for halloween and thanks giving decorations as well as old books.
im pretty sure there was an add on tv in the 2000s that had a cornucopia in it during thanks giving and had it fade out with the background as the logo was put in focus. weird knowing this kind of though is constructed
This reminds me of how everyone remembers the brand name Niveá when it is actually Nivea, I swear that I could remember putting Niveá sunscreen on my belly as a kid but not Nivea.
Jk, I just made that up, but I'm sure that this has fooled a few of you, that's all the "Mandela Effect" is. It is bringing in fresh information that overrides that old memories that you had, I'm sure you never thought of Niveá until I pointed it out, but once your brain has your past memories overwritten you are incapable of remembering Nivea without the á. (This is helped immensely with use of a photo shopped image, and since I lack one the amount of people that I tricked is much smaller)
This is what every instance of the Mandela Effect is. It isn't an effect it is just an illusion, there are no parallel universes or anything there is only your shitty memory.
People only swear that they can remember a cornucopia because after they saw the photo shopped image, their brain had added a cornucopia to every past memory of Fruit of the Loom that they had. Your brain also would have created completely false ones as well because that's just what it does, your brain will stitch together other memories into a whole new memory, (this is also how dreams are made). You also shouldn't be surprised by this fact either as your brain at the end of the day is a flawed hunk of meat that didn't have any evolutionary pressure to remember tiny unimportant details.
Please don't buy into all this pseudoscience, even if you can't disprove it yourself, lack of any evidence is always a good reason to know that it's bullshit.
Mandela never died in prison, it was always Berenstain Bears, there is no monocle on the monopoly man, and there was no fucking cornucopia. The Mandela Effect is just some stupid trick that hides behind the shield of 'effect' when in actual fact there is no Mandela Effect there is just our shitty memories.
The Mandela Effect is the equivalent of me making some spaghetti epidemic by putting up pictures of spaghetti everywhere, sure its a real thing that people are experiencing but there would be no spaghetti epidemic if I just stopped putting pictures of spaghetti everywhere. There is no Mandela Effect when people stop making up false memories and spreading them to millions of people along side convincing photo shopped images.
some pikachu tails are actually black with a heart shape so, it's not too much out of the question. I also thought there was a cornucopia so, ty for making me seem dum lmao.
to thoes in the UK oddly remembering it also haveing a cornucopia dispite them not really being a thing in our culture chances are its because they manufactured your school uniform and do you remember clip art on old mid 2000's word, powerpoint and publisher one of the first images to come up on that was a horn of pleanty thats why you are putting the two together
@10:40 : The Ultimate Showdown. I can remember and recite every fucking word. I should of spent my formative years on the internet learning to code, now flash is being disconnected. fuck.
idk why, but the image of the bathroom stalls at 7:57 make uncomfortable. Actually, thats a lie i know exactly why, why is the next stall so dark?, it seemingly is behind a solid wall? and wtf is that glowing object, what is this image
We should probably stop prying, there definitely a bigger meaning to this cornucopia, there is something bigger at play this is not coincidence with mass growth progression of the human race in technology
Hi Emp, I basically never ever comment on YouTube videos but I just realized you're my favorite content creator on this platform. Each video gives me new outlooks on subjects I most of the time never really thaught about, you are really broadening my worldview with each video and I want to thank you for that. I feel like you're one of the few on this site who only talks about what they truely care about, this is motivating me to keep going forward in life and I hope you'll do the same. In short, keep it up man, fantastic content !
I think it could be just that when introduced to the idea of there being a cornucopia, we find it so easily plausible that we think "yeah I remember that" and can so easily imagine such a detail in where ever we imagine it from then on. Kind of like deja vu.
When Vinesauce showed the discrepancy picture (during "Slasher's Keep #2" @ 55:08 for anyone wondering), it took me a minute to determine which is was. It's been a while since I've so much as looked at the logo, but they both almost looked correct, if that makes sense. The cornucopia, I thought, made sense from a composition standpoint, at least to a point. It made sense to me, because of the abundance of fruit centered together. A cornucopia would fit perfectly right behind them. However, the reason why I didn't think that it made sense, is mostly because it would make the logo too complex. I only really remembered it being a relatively small logo that involved fruits (an apple, and some grapes minimum) along with a leaf or two on either sides, so there wasn't much to go off of memory wise. The cornucopia just looked out of place, not necessarily because of the color dispute, but more in terms of size. I had chosen the picture without the cornucopia, which turned out to be correct. Because looking closely at it, I figured that it really just looked weirder with it. But I understand why someone would think it's there, because the composition (aside from color) makes it really easy to see it existing there. I just think that the mandala effect is just something people reference when they don't want to admit that they got something wrong. There could be more to it than just misremembering it; maybe someone photo-shopped an image or they saw a knock-off or something. It's mostly just a couple of really, really noise people who don't want to admit that they're wrong, followed by not as noisy people that see the post and go, "hey, they're right, I don't remember it being like this", which makes it spread way more than it should.
I once tried to sing a song for someone but couldn't remember the name, and when I got to the chorus the person was really shocked. Turns out I had subconsciously mixed the first verse of Smells like teen Spirit with the chorus of Come as you are. It didnt even occur to me that they were different songs, because I had just pitch shifted them together and the results were... interesting to say the least.
I’m an insanely visual person, always have been. My ability to recall visual details even from my childhood is on the spectrum. The cornucopia did exist. Like others I learned what it was from the logo because that’s the brand of underwear my mom bought me.
I think someone could insert the cornucopia pretty easily. Firstly, it's fruit. Secondly, the term cornucopia is considered kind of an old-timey term, and so is the fruit of the loom logo. A capri sun clearly has a pretty modern style, so people don't insert it in there.
I too learned of the term cornucopia from the logo. The year was 1987, I was in my mother's art room, the floor was darkly stained hardwood and the walls were horsehair plaster.
I actually remembered it with the cornucopia. it just looks more familiar to me vs just the fruit. Which i thought was a updated version. But who knows
This is really no different than the Monopoly monocle, groups of fruit and vegetables laid out in that fashion are often in front of a cornucopia. It's not that complicated haha.
It's pretty obvious given the abundance of similar imagery involving a cornucopia that it mixes memories so you naturally associate that sort of bundle of fruit with a imagery of harvest cornucopias. The brain does that kind of "fill in the blank" all the time and it's not unreasonable to suggest that thousands of people have a similar level of image association.
Also imagine coming from a parallel universe and the only difference was that a corporate logo was slightly different lol. I'd be pissed.
I distinctly remember the cornucopia but only on these old ass sweaters my grandma kept at the hunting shack. Were they knock offs? chances are yes. My family is cheap enough to consider fruit of the loom to be a name brand.
The only supposed Mandela effect example I personally experienced was the namesake for it. Before the Mandela effect was a thing I had an experience where I was talking to a couple coworkers and one of them mentioned something about what Nelson Mandela had recently done and I was confused by it and told them I distinctly remembered watching news stories about Nelson Mandela’s death and video clips of his funeral. Other than that original “Mandela Effect” I have no other experiences.
I actually just a couple days ago had a wild example of the fallibility of perception and memory. I work retail, I was on the register with customer, and I see a dude run out the store and the little, shitty security tag detector that goes of at every other thing, legitimate or not, went off as a man ran out the doors. Didn't look like he had anything obvious to me, and I half-thought he might've just been leaving in a hurry and the shitty detector went off as a fluke, but I figured it was more likely he stole something. I let my manager know, she checks the cameras to spot the guy, and you can see, clearly, in the camera, that he was holding a big like, I think cat litter container, and a small trash bin full of other stuff. None of that registered at the time it happened; if this was serious enough to get the police involved, I woulda swore up and down I didn't see a thing in his hands. I was utterly baffled that I could be so blatantly wrong about something that *just happened*.
Maybe it wasn't an ad for another product, but an in store ad/banner for an in store deal/sale, maybe even for fruit of the loom, maybe a fall sale, and maybe the store added the horn of plenty? And that's something we may never find after it's done. Probably just thrown out and never thought of again.
And the thing about the kid thinking the horn was "the loom", I totally remember thinking that too. But now I'm questioning my entire memory lol. Which really we probably should do more often, because it's not very accurate at all.
the premise of your video is based on the assumption that that pile of fruit wouldn't naturally be associated with a cornucopia, but that's an entirely subjective call. to me the pile of fruit seems very evocative of a cornucopia, and it only takes a small percentage of a population to have a similar association for the effect to occur. remember the typical mind fallacy, you have very little frame of reference for whether your mind works anything like that of others!
Eh, I can easily imagine people just adding the cornucopia. Cornucopias, while rare and specific, are fairly simple shapes especially in the mind's eye.
Do I remember the cornucopia? I don't know. If you told me it had one, I'd believe you. If you told me it didn't, I'd believe that as well. The logo is basically a smudge of colors in my head, it's in a superposition. Same with Looney Tunes or Barenstain bears, Who even thinks about the spelling? Who has such a clear image of brand logos in their head? Who gets that invested in something they barely payed attention too?
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Fred Krazé2020-11-30 08:36:24 (edited 2020-11-30 08:58:31 )
I distinctly remember Berenstein Bears, I believe it's the Mandela effect. Let me explain, me and my sister grew up with the TV show and the books especially, we learned to read with them!!!! Another reason I remember it as Stein is because of my mini-stein/ mini-mug growing up. My grandparents are European immigrants. So when they shared a beer in the evening watching Jeopardy, me and my sister would also have our shotglass sized steins. When I learned what a stein cup is and that's what I had, I switched to mini-stein, I felt so sophisticated lol But if your thinking I was just a drunk kid, well we only got one shot. It was about 2010 when this really started. Me and my sister both noticed the name change, and we thought it was just that. But the change spawned a joke between us where my sister would make fun of the "new name" by exaggerating it, Quote: BaRenSTAAAIIIIIN Bears. Really emphasizing the "stain" as in staining your clothes, which she was infamous for. We both remember it not being "stain" until it became a meme between us. (Edit, all we knew of the internet was Webkinz) (Edit 2.5: my mom even remembers the change and discrepancy, idk how to put her words here but quote (I don't know,but that's not what I remember) And she remembers EVERYTHING.
Could it not just be an example of negative space? Like people saw a logo of fruits spilled out in such a way that they thought it belonged in a Cornucopia? Thanksgiving, Disney’s Hercules, Greek mythology, decorations - there are ample opportunities to see a “complete” cornucopia over time, whole or separated into pieces.
The Mandela effect comes down to people mixing up stuff in their mind over time. My favorite example for this is the alleged Genie movie that features Sindbad. I think, besides the facts regarding the topic shown in this video (a commercial with Sindbad dressed up as a Genie, Shaqs Genie movie, etc.), that most people, when they “remember” this, have the movie “Bernard and the Genie” in mind. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101435/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 This is a British Christmas-movie from 1991, that includes, like the title might already suggest, a Genie. It isn´t really a that well known movie, but since it was regularly on tv in the holiday-season here in Germany, I happened to see it quiet a few times when I was younger. According to the IMDB rating, as you can see, it isn´t even a bad movie, sitting solid at 7,5 out of 10. Not only is the Genie in this a black guy, played by British actor/comedian Lenny Henry, he´s also a cool funny dude, who genuinely cares about the guy who freed him and is willing to use his powers to help him. He is somewhere between a god, rigging reality with his superpowers and a little child, constantly amazed by the technological advancements of the 20th century that are present in everyday live. Also since it came out in 1991 and thus being way older than the 1996 movie Kazaam, it´s actually also older than the animated Disney movie Aladdin, that came out in 1992 and prominently features a comedic relief Genie. Therefore “Bernard and the Genie” is the first movie that showed the Genie as a nice, genuinely helpful spirit, in the form of a black man. Even though that Lenny Henry looks nothing like Sindbad at all, it was around this time, in the early 90s, that Sindbad was on the peak of his game. So, at least at that time, mixing them up would have made sense, to some extent. To close the circle, also look up Sindbad on Google. The first thing that you will find is the original Sindbad the sailor, that since he is a Mid-easterner, that lived in the middle ages, is usually shown in old mid-eastern clothing, kinda like Genies are depicted in pop-culture nowadays, since Genies have their origins in pre-islamic Arabian mythology. In conclusion or TLDR: People mix up Sindbad the actor with Sindbad the sailor, who was from the mid-east, the place Genies originate from as well. Because of that Sindbad the sailor and Genies in pop-culture have a similar style of clothing. The idea for a movie centered around a cool blackbro Genie was originally first done in “Bernard and the Genie”, a 1991 British Christmas-movie.
I don’t really agree with what you were saying about the cornucopia being so out of place in terms of color and shape that people couldn’t insert it into their memory. At least for me, when I thought cornucopia I didn’t think of any fruit or colors in particular. The fact that looking up cornucopia brings up specific fruits and colors is very interesting, but to say we associate a cornucopia with said foods and colors is to say that the exact type of food and color is the “important” detail that we remember when we think of a cornucopia. Personally, I just imagine it filled with food haphazardly spilling out, and I don’t care what type of food. When I see food piled up, I can very easily place a cornucopia behind it and imagine it as natural.
you should've gotten lastpas to sponsor this video, i can just imagine the transition from "confront the idea that our memory is fallible" to "that's why you need a password manager like lastpas"
I disagree that imagining a cornucopia behind a pile of grapes and an apple is more farfetched than imagining a monocle on a rich man. Even when you look up Google image results of a cornucopia at 4:34 nearly all pictures have grapes and one or more apples in front of the cornucopia. And sure it's not a very common word but most people have seen an image of one with grapes and possibly other fruit in front of it at least once in their lives so nearly everyone already has a mental concept of it. Monocle isn't a very common word/object but nearly everyone saw a picture of a monocle at least once before, nearly always on a rich man, just like how nearly everyone saw a picture of a cornucopia before, nearly always behind grapes and apples. And besides, looking at the logo doesn't necessarily have to inherently prime people's minds to imagine a cornucopia behind it, because any discussion of this topic prefaces by already showing people the modified logo with the cornucopia behind it, so they don't have to imagine anything because they could see the "Mandela effect" right in front of them. With that said, I do appreciate your relatively science-focused discussion of the Mandela effect, since you avoid most all of the pseudoscience a lot of other YouTube videos covering the topic. As someone who used to be one of these ignorant people, people who think the Mandela effect proves alternate timelines are actually just idiots that don't want to admit they have fallible memories. I'd recommend any believers of the Mandela effect watch Comment Etiquette's very informative video on the topic.
I always thought it was fruit in a wicker basket not a cornucopia... just to be sure, I went through my holiest ginch and checked the shirt tags. no cornucopias
Many people who claim to have memories of the cornucopia, either noting it or having conversations about it, may be experiencing planted memories - basically, it’s easy to give someone a false memory by suggesting something did happen that did not. I forget the exact study but people who had never been on hot air balloons before were able to recall details of the hot air balloon trip they went on when they were 5 when it was suggested they went on one. If we suggest people have memories of the cornucopia, you may recall one that never happened.
Ok I could swear that it was one apple, one bunch of darker purple grapes (than the ones shown), one ORANGE, a few green grapes, leaves, and a cornucopia. BIZARRE.
I was born in 2001 and I remember the cornucopia on fruit of the loom strongly in elementary school time span. I didn't know what cornucopia was until this video.
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Mr. Spaghetti2020-11-30 07:12:02 (edited 2020-11-30 07:13:28 )
This video has freaking destroyed my mind. Great video my guy
I think an essential part of Mandela stuff is like the "sunk cost fallacy"- people don't like admitting they're wrong. They'd rather make up conspiracies and universe jumping than just go "huh, guess I remembered that wrong."
Sure, people need to manage their egos, but I spent a non significant amount of thought as a child on that logo, as well as my family naming our dog jiffy. Most Mandela examples are people being idiots, and I’m sure this is the case with jiffy, but this logo... I have VIVID memories looking at the colorless line art on the back of my pants, then my fish tank.
I can confirm that the issue is that the cornucopia is a bootleg issue, here in Mexico you could see the underwear with the cornucopia in the flea markets
The underwear bit threw me lol. I live in the UK and I've only ever seen fotl brand for tshirts/polo shirts. Normaly the ones business use to for their uniforms.
I think of a cornucopia every time I see a pile of random fruit and vegetables. Maybe my mind is just more intuned in folksy Americana.
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carlos conde2020-11-30 04:23:43 (edited 2020-11-30 04:30:13 )
I mean, it would not be far off that fruit of the loom probably did put a cornucopia in the design and then backed down real fast and acted like nothing happened.
Companys are known for acting like nothing happened.
Imagine how much money fruit of the loom could make it they just put a cornucopia on their logo, like I would start shopping their products if they did that honestly
from all the way in my isolated country, i saw the video icon and only recognised the brand from the cornucopia, not knowing it was a big brand and only knowing that i had a shirt of that brand lying around
Its because in the original logo like the one in the commercials you can see brown parts (either leaves or stems) on each side of the logo, we see the brown and forget the object Edit: just got halfway into the video, i still stand with my words
I'm not American, but I also seem to recognize that picture. I think that since we all know of it because history teachers use a lot of pictures in their presentations, and maybe people really just smashed the logo and the pictures together.
For the record, my dad grew up next to the real-life Berenstains. This of course makes him old as shit, so he's not online... and when asked he remembered the name as "Berenstain" and couldn't believe people argued over it. Get rekt, atheists.
I thought that was their logo even though I’ve never owned their products and I can trace my first introduction to the cornucopia back to an angry birds game but there’s no images online of it.
Wow, I really thought there was a cornucopia on the Logo and I just checked the t shirt I am wearing and it doesn't have a cornucopia. I was so sure of it gonna check in an old shirt from my dad later
I just gonna say it, the cornucopia is more likely a brown stain from ermmm... you know where thats the only thing i can think of why ppl are thinking it existed. Its unpleasant to think ppl are bad at wiping or worse
That’s not Mandela, that the brain packaging a huge line into a meme for easy redistribution. I had a dumbass teacher in middle school who quoted it like, “Luke, I am not your father.” The actual lines follow as such, He told me enough. He told me YOU killed him. No, Luke. I am your father.
So while technically Luke I am your father is not wrong, it is.
It's weird that you say "it's not likely multiple people would have fabricated the same object on the logo", but you give examples of parodies that used the cornicopia. Couldnt these multiple cultural reference be an origin for these false memories? Sort of like how many parodies say "luke i am your father" even though that is not yhe original line
I never seen an 'Cornucopia' but i know the contemporany fruit of the loom logo is only fruit. But remeber my old underwear had it even if i didint know anyting abouth the brown horn
Zen Calibur2020-11-30 03:42:58 (edited 2020-11-30 03:44:36 )
the mandela effect basically
edit: not a second later he showed that it was posted on r/mandelaeffect also idk why thats up for debate since theres never been a cornucopia on the fotl logo
Why is it that every time there is a Mandela effect the reality is that whatever was thought to exist doesn't actually exist? can't when get some wins here and gain something that we thought didn't exist?
This is the first time I've heard of there being a cornucopia as well. This was a thing? I came to this video expecting some kind of corporate espionage or something. Now I'm wondering why people believed there was a cornucopia on the logo. This is the first time I've ever heard about it. It's cool, but I swear people are tripping.
Look the human memory is dogshit bad, it was always bad and will continue to be bad for the foreseeable future. I mean, I clearly remember that the Simpsons were yellow, yet here I am seeing green Simpsons, not knowing why.
Man I wanna call bullshit, not on the video, I loved the video, but on the most common English word list on Google. Apparently the 2nd most common word is 'be'. 'Be' is more commonly used than 'to'. How often do you hear the word 'be'?? More often than 'to'??? I don't think I do :/
Weird somehow got unsubbed must have been when I was clearing my feed. Idk, weird. Must be the Mandela affect and I never was subscribed just watched enough to think I was subscribed. Crazy. I even thought this was the video that made me sub.
This year I am thankful for RAYCON EARBUDS dropping me a fat wad of cash for the holiday season. Visit https://buyraycon.com/emplemon for 20% off your order.
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9 likesk
4 likesemplemon thank you for being an epic lad
18 likesThanks
1 likeok
2 likesCHAD B)
0 likesSell out lol
30 likesI might, I need headphones
0 likes:eyes:
1 like@APPLE Get some Apple dirty buds, these are a rip off
44 likesHow was this comment from 16 hours ago
2 likesgoogle DeathofCommunism
0 likesYikes man i was here first minute and its already demonitized
0 likesHappy Thanksgiving!
0 likesLove you man
1 likeI remember remembering a Pokemon’s stat’s being different from what it really was.
2 likesmy name jeff
0 likesThe comment was commented 16 hours ago and this video came out 12 minutes ago
4 likes@delmy lopez Scheduled upload
7 likes@WindowsLogic Productions I agree with that
0 likesNo they’re terrible
8 likesWell made video Emp. Looking forward to your next big video in a few months!
0 likesEmp, you can't keep hinting at a Jerma vs. Star video for like two years and not release it. Come on, everybody wants to see this happen. We need to know what really happened before anyone can say it's over.
6 likesAlright this is kinda stupid, but if memory is like this, isnt it possible that when I was doing something important in my life, I actually forgot to wash my hands well after using the bathroom and I had germs all over my hands, even though I remembered washing my hands correctly? Or is it really just not that bad unless I get sick due to how rare it would be?
0 likesBro when you said both underwear and memory are doomed to be stained i felt that....😔
1 like@MisterZygarde64 yeah wtf
0 likes@average Weezer fan No, First off emp needs money to pay his bills, and most of the time he gets copy striked and demonetized. second, Raycon earbuds are a good product that don't break there promises unlike raid COUGH COUGH. if emp did not have sponsors his content would be significantly worse, due to the lack of funding. And you can just skip the part of the video where he sponsors it. We all gotta eat.
1 likeMaybe in the u.s they are not expensive but brands like dickies or fruit of the loom are expensive in europe compared to "cheap" brands. So it could be something with the copyright
0 likesRaycons suck ass but get that bread!
1 like@WindowsLogic Productions fellow DankPods bro?
1 like@Athena Kuld One of my favourite channels on YouTube.
0 likesgalaxy buds are the same price and better
0 likes@ilusions4 Just get some Sony MDR-7506 headphones
1 likeI remember the cornucopia from a donut shop I used to go too as a elementary school kid. The wall had some old advertisement art depicting fruit and meat with a cornucopia in the background
0 likesEmp talk about the new TOS changes
0 likesYessssssssssss, thank you for posting again. Love you Emp❤️
0 likesOne thing I should note: The Berenstain Bears thing isn't simply because of the -Stein suffix being common, it's also because of the fact that several tapes were misprinted to say Berenstein rather than -stain.
1 likeDo you believe in timelines?
0 likesJiffy was totally a thing...
0 likesJiffy was a popcorn [Jiffy Pop], and baking mix...
0 likes@Maalik I'm very sad to see YouTube sponsorships becoming synonymous with buyer beware products...
1 likeA special thanks to yesterdays sponsor raid shadow legends.
Don’t buy them though, they’re WAYYY too basey. Like, that’s all you hear 😂
2 likes@WindowsLogic Productions I’m actually fine with people being sponsored by rayon, but after some actual reviews of those earbuds, it turns out they’re pretty shitty quality.
3 likes@delmy lopez probably an unlisted video that patreons got a link to before it went out to the public or something.
0 likesemplemon cute tho 😳😳
0 likesthe headphones are shit tho
0 likesNearly every Mandela effect I've ever encountered has been one like this.
0 likesOne which can be dismissed as "poor memory" because it's simply too obscure in our daily lives to be important.
And it's not important enough historically to be ingrained in our memory.
Nearly every Mandela Effect seems to be like this, Except for 2. And these 2... relate. Which is something I've never seen in any other Mandela Effect.
The Black Tom explosion of 1916.
Although it does not stand alone in this fact, the Black Tom explosion of 1916 was an event that helped pave the way for the entry of the United States into
World War 1. What is the Black Tom explosion? The Black Tom explosions was an event in which Germans destroyed a stockpile of Munitions and Weaponry that
was being stored on a New Jersey pier. Inside of that compound was about 100k Pounds of TNT. When it exploded the force was so great It was measured
to be as powerful as a Magnitude 5 Earthquake and shattered windows 25 miles away.
The Damage to the Statue of Liberty's Arm
Despite the fact that many people have stated they remember being in the torch, looking out and even being in the torch as late as the day before 9/11.
9/11 itself did not cause the Statue of Liberty's arm to be shutdown. In fact it wasn't shutdown over security concerns at all. The Statue of Liberty's arm has been shutdown
ever since July 30th 1916. When the Black Tom Explosion sent debris into several parts of the statue, it was determined travelling up the arm to the torch was too dangerous.
These two, seemingly non-important Mandela effects are absolutely mind boggling.
First, I've never had a 2-part Mandela Effect. Second, this one breaks are the standards of most Mandela Effects:
- It's not related to a logo or fictional character. [Yes I know the statue of liberty is technically a fictional character, but I mean in the sense that it's not physically real.]
- It's not related to a name or title.
- It's not related to innocuous or forgettable events, ideas or items.
- It's not related to a tiny insignificant detail
The Statue of Liberty has, is and will continue to be a national landmark, that is visited by people all of the world. World War 1 and 9/11 are both insanely memorable events, whether you were there for them or not. And they're so distant in terms of time periods, mixing the two up is just insane, not to mention the reasons for both explanations are completely different. the 9/11 claim was for security while the historical explanation is for safety following explosion damage. Explosion damage from an event most people seem to have not heard of.
That last part is mostly an assumption, but damn near every person I've asked about this, online or offline, and even those in the field of History, typically have never heard of the Black Tom explosion. Nor do they note it as a major historical event. Despite the fact that it shakes the foundations of many parts of World War 1 and of course the Statue of Liberty. The Black Tom explosions supposedly was a major event which was one of the catalysts that took us into WW1 and with an explosion so strong people in Philadelphia felt it, there's a massive Black out in memory regarding the Black Tom explosion.
This is absolutely insane, and continues to haunt me. As prior to the Black Tom Explosion + Statue of Liberty Torch Mandela Effect combo, I had basically just shoved the Mandela Effect aside as an ape-brain memory thing that our meat sack minds just jumble up and ruin. But this event is both documented well but represented so little, along with the strong memories of people being inside of parts of the Statue of Liberty that had been closed likely since before they were born just cannot be explained away as a memory thing.
Maybe it's a Mandela Effect, or maybe there is something else here I'm not seeing. But either way, this one absolutely blows my mind every time I look into it.
@bbtootall Conservatives dont need to be opposed of Welfare, Stalin for example pretty conservative
0 likes@bbtootall Lol stop wasting your time You could be doing anything else.
0 likesOk but raycons are shit though
0 likesRaycons are trash
0 likes@bbtootall I'm sure your a nice guy but people need money and they will take the easy way out because they don't want to work 12 hours a day with no vacation.
0 likesjew
0 likesRaking in the dough.
0 likesweird thing: fruit of the loom produced the clothes used in the place where i had my workers education as a ldnscaper. not underwear but shirts and t-shirts. well i also saw a cornucopia even though i never saw or heard of fruit of the loom before. im from germany btw.
0 likesNo
0 likesRaycon sucks.
0 likesThey aren’t really good. There’s a video about it showing the sound poor.
0 likesLightning McQueer and the quest for tires 2 WHEN
0 likes@bbtootall Seems like you have a lot of time on your hands. 😆
0 likes@bbtootall Lol you sure try too hard haha. But keep up the crying in this comment section. :)
0 likes@bbtootall Keep flapping your keyboard. That's all you're good for 😆
0 likes@bbtootall So you will cry about a handout? That's cool 🤣
0 likes@bbtootall Let's count how many times you can cry in this comment shall we? So far you have 14. Don't keep me waiting! 😆
0 likes@bbtootall 15 cries lol
0 likesRaycon is shit
0 likes@bbtootall 16 cries 😆
0 likes@bbtootall Why so serious child? ;)
0 likesInteresting talking points discussed about the strangeness of the missing cornucopia. You know, they sound strangely identical to the very same ones I covered in my videos last year...IN FACT several images you displayed are also oddly familiar!..Wonder why that is🤭
0 likestoo bad raycons make everything sound like bass boosted memes
0 likesWe are investing in this meme:https://youtu.be/25l96_-5PZI
0 likes@EmpLemon [ANGERY INTENSIFIES FOR RAYCON SPONSOR AND RAYCON BEANS]
0 likes@bbtootall 17 cries
0 likes@bbtootall 18 cries lol
0 likes@bbtootall 19 cries lol
0 likes@bbtootall Lol I like how you took the bait. :)
0 likes@bbtootall I say you're the only one triggered in this comment section and his reply about raking in the dough comment. No one else. Let that sink in for a few minutes. Oh no, you won't! Hahaha typical try hard child on the internet lol
0 likes@Tyrtol Jankins Oh wow, that burn 🤣
0 likesI'm sorry but raycons are not a good pair of wireless headphones
0 likesI'm praying you do another video like your how Trump used memes but on biden and how he used massive voter fraud to cheat an election. If you did a video on that I'd be so happy.
0 likesdo more ytps
1 like@ rob productions he should one last time
1 like@bbtootall 20 cries lol
0 likes@bbtootall 21 cries lol
0 likes@bbtootall 22 cries lol
0 likesYo Emp. You should make another NASCAR video about the story of Bobby Alison. He lost all of his children and eventually his wife as he went from NASCAR legend to living with his mother to his rebound in life after NASCAR.
0 likesIts because in the original logo like the one in the commercials you can see brown parts (either leaves or stems) on each side of the logo, we see the brown and forget the object
0 likesEmp, thank you for making my days better, your vids are awesome and i hope you're doing well through this irl apocolypse. Again, Thank you.
0 likesRaycons suck, see DankPods' video on them
0 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyzMSevpT2I
CONGRATS ON THE SPORTSBALL APPEARANCE
0 likesYou know I’m sick of people thinking that the Mandela effect thing makes sense.... What does make sense is maybe the consideration of time travel there are numerous incidents in movies and culture where something changes but people can somewhat recollect it being a little different.
0 likesanyone who expects to find the old logo, doesn't understand mandela effect.
0 likesGet that bread
0 likesSHitty earbuds.
0 likes1:32 gorilla costume! :)
0 likesWhy is it called mandela effect?
0 likes@Universpro because the main example of it is that people often think that nelson Mandela died in prison when he actually died much later
0 likesPretty sure there was a fruit of the loom knockoff with a cornucopia
0 likesHey, I have a argument for Cornucopia Fruit of the Loom; if everyone remembers the exact same cornucopia Drawing, it couldn’t possibly be the Mandela effect!
0 likesAt 10:08 , Depends on the Pikachu we are talking about. Normal male and female pikachu have no black on their tail. However, If we are talking about the Cosplay forms of pikachu introduced in Pokémon X and Y, that, sadly, probably won’t come back, they do have a bit of black on their tail, however with the Cosplays it’s in the shape of a heart, with the tip pointing toward the body of pikachu.
0 likesTrash products but we need that holiday bag
0 likesHonestly I fucked with my raycons pretty hard until I lost the box
0 likesI can't wait until everyone remembers it as Raycon instead of Reycon.
0 likesI like how you're just being honest lol
1 likeThey really are decent
0 likesReally lmao nice fucking flex
0 likesHuh, this was pretty cool. I too remember it with a cornucopia honestly.
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Didn't expect to see you here.
24 likesBecause it had one.
59 likes@P M do you have proof?
22 likesRoanoke what are you doing here
4 likesI don’t remember a cornucopia, but honestly I like the look of the cornucopia in the back better than the actual logo
89 likesI LITERALLY DUG THROUGH AND DESTROYED MY DRAWERS LOOKING AT MY T SHIRTS AND UNDERWEAR TRYING TO FIND THAT DAMN CORNICOPIA AND FOUND NOTHING...
82 likesI SWEAR THEY WERE THERE BEFORE I WATCHED THIS VIDEO
@lol stop welcome to the 46,333,382,332,769.832 timeline!
30 likesIt was defintely on the packaging, the one part of the product that's discarded immediately after opening the product. Who bought new pairs of underwear and kept the plastic bag it came in? That's why it's different on the clothes compared to how we first remember it. So I guess we'll have to scour the earth for vintage, unopened underwear bundles now.
50 likessame here
1 likeI remember it from the 2000s
4 likesI remember it without, but also hi
1 likeGuys, Roanoke gaming also remember it with a cornucopia an he's honest about it. And he also finds it "pretty cool". The word "huh" was also used here, which is not used that often but often enough to be used and understood.
2 likesAs with a lot of other Mandela effects, I too remember it as well. I even have an old bias tape (sewing item) FOTL put out in the 60s.. it doesn't exist there either. My husband is a process engineer for Fruit so I get reminded of this logo discrepancy daily 😁
8 likeswhen I saw him add it it kinda just looked right, like it should be there even though I know its not a part of the logo
9 likesDo you remember pikachu having a black stripe on its tail?
6 likes@ɤ̞ lmao what in the world
0 likesWhat this guy said.
0 likesMaybe we need to look at the toes to tell the truth of this
0 likes@Darksider .- see what, the non existent proof? Your comment makes no sense
1 like@LittleMissEevee I agree
1 likeI remember noticing that there was no cornocopia and thinking "huh I guess I always looked at it wrong and never closely"
3 likesSame
0 likes@Electric punch you might be in a different timeline now
1 likeSo now I'm not sure if I actually remember the cornucopia or if watching this video has planted a false memory of the cornucopia but I could have sworn after watching this video that there was one.
3 likes@Stabin Cabin I have drawings of long ago with pikachu having a black stripe. With no access to outside drawings and trying to copy it exactly it's odd that I drew a stripe. Because apparently there was never one.
3 likesAH so this is what you're doing when you're not giving biology lessons. Honestly, kinda underwhelmed. Normally seeing a teacher outside of class is more exciting.
0 likesMore gears THEORY
0 likesMy dad's girlfriend had a shirt from them with it. That was the first time I saw the brand. I was confused to not see it when I saw this video now I know why
1 like@Billy Bob how old are you now?
0 likes@Stabin Cabin on the end of it
0 likes@lol stop Same here.
0 likesCornucopia.
0 likesI never heard that word until yesterday and now i am seeing this here on youtube after seeing memes about it on instagram
Nice to see you watch this person too, Roanoke.
0 likesFor me, I don't remember it being specifically either way, but I do think the cornucopia one looks more "right."
0 likesA lot of the other examples, I didn't feel strongly either way for. Some I didn't even fall for.
Yes, as do I.
0 likesOr was it the power of suggestion?
0 likes100x this as a kid I had no idea what that thing was until I was in third grade.
3 likesYou cannot fool me.
same and I swear pikachu had a black bit on his tail...
2 likesDo you though, or did you just see that image for the first time in a long time because that’s the first image you see on this video and so your mind made you think that’s what it definitely looked like.
0 likes@My fellow Sonic fans Im still trying to wrap my head around the fact that pikachu doesnt have a black tail tip
1 likeMe too
1 likeSo I'm not crazy?
1 likeI think if it never existed anywhere in the logo then maybe it's because we first hear of the brand as kids and are like "loom?? What's that?" And think well where would fruit be in and think oh that basket thing u see with fruit and vegetables in it that must be what a loom is.
1 likeI never heard of Fruitof the Looms so I cant judge
0 likesLegend
0 likesShould’ve expected you to be here
0 likesI saw the logo he put up at first, and then as soon as he added the cornucopia I was blown away, wondering how I could've missed such a huge missing detail that I distinctly remembered.
2 likesI.. it had one I swear
1 like@lol stop bruh I was confused asf I knew the logo had the chordates on the logo
0 likessomeone proved the company applied for a trademark extension and the document gives a very vivid description of the logo, and that includes the cornucopia. I think I saw it posted on reddit. i think applied for in the 90's maybe...
2 likesYo I remember you
0 likesSo do I.
0 likes@TheCat 3 Mandela effect dictates it'd be impossible to give you proof because it wouldn't exist on this timeline. Basically if we crossed into a new timeline, then it never had one here and looking up old clothing will not have it. It is a very insidious glitch. You are meeting two shards and overwriting differences. If you did that to your files they would all move in and any files that swear you were different will have no way of believing you or any attempt at proving it to them them.
1 likeSame
0 likes@TheCat 3 i got proof. The fruit of loom t shirt tag logo on my old shirt had a cornucopia on it
0 likes@Evil Dax not a knock off? Actual fruit of the loom?
0 likes@Evil Dax only the in fabric one was potentially real, the tag one in that video the dude said someone photoshopped it
0 likes@TheCat 3 It was their. The orignal logo had the cornucopia. It changed rather quickly but people want to mind fuck you with this mendela effect. I used to stock fruit of loom shirts in a clothing store back in the early 90s. I seen the tag a thousands of times to know what I saw. This Mendela effect may be real but it made a huge mistake. It may have erased it from reality but not from our brains
0 likesOh that cornucopia existed in their logo. 100%.
0 likesIsn't this very adequately and simply explained, by people seeing OTHER images—with the same motif to the FotL-logo—featuring a fucking corn-dog?
0 likes@P M it did. I'm sure
0 likesI'd say in my personal experience. The Fruit logo was always just the fruits. But I think my memory included the Cornucopia because it was there whenever I got one to color in from kindergarten as some Thanksgiving activity.
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I think this has to be it. Elementary school around thanksgiving had a bunch of worksheets with cornucopias and random groups of fruit.
144 likesDefinitely. Cornucopias used to be a ubiquitous Thanksgiving decoration. My mom always put one on the dining table. School decorations always had them. I colored many of those activity sheets in elementary grades.
59 likesYeah I am almost certain I saw this at school during Thanksgiving and related the imagery to the logo on my underwear lol
19 likesI think this is the most logical response. I remember the loom, personality. But I also remember seeing fruits and vegetables in looms a lot during Thanksgiving.
16 likesHmm that would also explain why the logo with the stock cornucopia looks exactly what people remember because worksheets would have the stock cornucopia as well.
23 likesWAH
1 likethis is completely it
5 likesI was thinking the same too, except I was thinking of store displays, school makes a lot more sense I seem to remember such line art on colored work sheets from elementary school.
2 likesYeah the art style and thanks giving activity stuff reminds me of that charlie brown art style and thanksgiving cards
5 likes@Tiara Nietfeld It's not a loom. It's a cornucopia. A loom is what makes clothes.
1 likeNailed it.
3 likesAnd you can understand why even EMP would miss this.
There are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association
2 likesthere are countries where they don't celebrate thanksgiving and they remember it all the same
2 likes@G I'm British and we don't celebrate Thanksgiving but I specifically remember The cornucopia.
2 likesI thought it was a weirdly shaped fruit bowl and I remember asking my dad about it in the car and him telling me it's a cornucopia.
I'm beginning to think this as well. But I don't know. What was the image I saw of a cornucopia that got me to conflate it? I guess cornucopias were just common to see in images back in the 80's and 90's for some reason? They're hardly shown in any sort of images today... it just makes the whole thing that much more mysterious
1 like@SevenFoot Pelican I grew up in the 2000s/2010s though and I was a toddler when the 90s ended so I personally wouldn't remember the 80s/90s I only even started watching 80s/90s media over the past few years but I remember the logo having the cornucopia.
0 likesVery interesting…I wonder how many other memories we add and take away from…
0 likes@Postmodern Recycler It makes total sense, however it does not account for all the foreigners like myself
1 likewho neither learned about thanksgiving in school /kindergarten nor celebrated it, but still vividly remember the horn being there.............
It’s so funny you mention the part about calling a cornucopia a “loom” because I swear I had the exact same experience
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Me too
2 likesMe too
2 likesME TOO
1 likeI had no idea fruit of the loom made underwear, in the UK I think they’re more commonly associated with custom branded t-shirts
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Wait thats true! I've been thinking why fruit of the loom sounds like a familiar brand even tho i've never used them. I've bought some shirts from the flea markets!
11 likesyeah think my PE shirt in school was fruit of the loom and im sure it had a cornucopia so weird
4 likesSeriously?! I live in the Midwest, and all I've ever associated Fruit of the Loom with is underwear and white undershirts. If I wore a t-shirt with their branding, it would be like...an underwear shirt.
6 likesAbsolutely, like pe kits and kids clubs uniforms
4 likes@Irish Jet nah they didn't have the fruit logo on it, it was just a fruit of the loop brand t-shirt with a print on the front for something else.
3 likesyeah, i'm not from UK but also from Europe and i had couple custom T-Shirts with Froot of the Loom logo... and what is funny i clearly remember cornucopia being there!
4 likesAs an Australian I have never heard of this company nor seen their logo. As soon as I saw the logo it looked like it was missing something though, it seems too wide.
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Exactly, it also seems as if the leaves and fruits should have a purpose or be kept in place by something. Not mentioning how the word loom sort of implies there’s something else other than fruits on the logo.
48 likes@draguO doT Well the cornucopia isn't a loom, a loom is a thing used for sewing clothes (because they are a clothes company)
12 likesThe removal of the cornucopia is symbolic in our country having less abundance of all
1 likeIt would be legendary if Fruit of The Loom went full mad lad and started putting cornucopias on every 10,000th underwear
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Well great, now they're gonna see your comment and do exactly that. This is indeed where the fun begins.
155 likesAnd it's hand drawn badly to make it seem like a hoax.
156 likesRyan my man, this is mad genius level of genius.
18 likesCalm down Satan
26 likesThats a bit much. If they did it for every 1,000,000 underwear noone woukd be able to prove it
37 likesIf it weren’t for those meddling underwear companies...
14 likesNot a bad marketing move honestly lol
21 likesI could definitely see this happening
1 likenow this is corporate trolling
5 likes@BakruptFern329 A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
2 likesthen people start putting them on ebay for thousands lmao
6 likesWatch it happen
2 likesThat's not rare enough, make it once every 100,000
0 likes@RED A minute amount of conglomorated tomfoolery.
0 likes@MD24 Clips Yeah that works better, someone else suggested 1 million but I think it's too much, 100k is perfect
0 likesThey did use the cornucopia logo on April Fools Day 2022
0 likesAs you saw when googling cornucopia, there is tons of clip art and stuff showing essentially the exact same layout as the imagined logo. This is where I think the discrepancy comes from. While cornucopias are a generally obscure object, I distinctly remember as a kid learning about Thanksgiving seeing tons of drawings and clip art of them CONSTANTLY at the time. I don't think it's that crazy to think we just ingrained that ensemble of fruit laid out in front of a cornucopia and see the similarly assembled Fruit of the Loom fruit and subconsciously place one behind them in our memory.
148 likesI personally remember the logo with it. It feels more natural to me. But I also acknowledge that I'm likely doing what you said elsewhere in the video and creating an amalgamation of childhood experience in my mind. The reason why we also don't place one behind other logos like you showed with the capri suns is because that isn't even the logo for capri sun. It's just the image on the packaging, that changes from pouch to pouch. It hasn't been a consistent thing. Also, the Fruit of the Loom logo is a cartoon while the images on the capri suns are real photos. I think you'd actually be hard pressed finding another product logo with a similar cartoon fruit layout. There probably isn't one, at least a well known one, because it would lean into trademark territory.
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There are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association
3 likes@Chloé Again, maybe because they saw simplified clip art or something as a kid? And thinking it is called a loom is just because they thought it was there and thought that’s what the brand name was referring to.
5 likes@FlashPone Yes but foreigners don't celebrate thanksgiving, i would maybe understand if you said we all sat and colored somthing so it got in our brains but it's such a random object for someone who doesn't celebrate thanksgiving and doesn't speak our language to randomly inject. People have a lot of stories of asking their parents what the "loom" is or thinking the cornucopia was called a loom, loom and cornucopia sound nothing alike. It is very weird that everyone remembers it. Pause at 5:31 the reddit posts, it's what really started to make me realize it can't just be a false memory
2 likes@Chloé It’s definitely just a false memory, lol. Our brains are built to create false stories if we can’t fully remember something. Almost nobody remembers their childhood correctly. And kids tend not to focus on small details like every detail of a random logo. So if someone is like “Didn’t this used to look like X?” people will probably not be able to fully remember. There is no evidence of dimension swapping or anything lmao.
3 likes@FlashPone Yes but there's also grown adults who remember it too... who were adults back then. And one thing is not focusing on details and another thing is inserting an object that was completely not there. Millions of people remember it, not 100 or 1000 it's very weird
3 likes@Chloé Adults are human beings too, and the human memory is notoriously shitty. That’s why eyewitness testimony is not admissible evidence in court. People can misremember stuff that happened hours earlier.
5 likes@FlashPone Millions of kids and adult saw the same non existent thing even the same color? If iIcolored it as a kid it was black and white but everyone even remembers the same shade of brown. Foreigners who don't celebrate thankgiving? If I don't know how popular cornucopia clip art is for it to be so widely agreed upon.
1 like@FlashPone People could've "remembered" a normal fruit basket too, but everyone saw a cornucopia. Some people say the tag was their first time even seeing the object and remember thinking "what is that shell looking thing" or asking someone what is that, it's just too specific to be made up by so many people who have never met eachcother. And this is coming from someone who tried to rationalize the monocle on the monopoly guy but this one I can't explain, there's no other popular brands sporting cornucopias for people to get so confused.
1 like@Chloé Like I said, the brain is easily conditioned into having false memories. They could easily THINK they have that memory, but don’t. And people tell other’s the story and others say “Huh, I think I remember that too.” And then suddenly they “remember” it. Personally, I think the look with the cornucopia looks right and is the design I “remember”, but I also acknowledge I’m probably just wrong.
3 likes@FlashPone I think over millions it's a reach to blame false memory for the reasons I said but that's my opinion. Besides coloring a cornucopia once in pre-k which is a flawed reason considering grown adults and foreigners, there's no reason so many would recall something so obscure. A fruit basket would make more sense and if the brain wanted to badly to place something behind the fruit there would be some people recalling maybe other objects like a fruit basket but everyone remembers the same obscure object, a cornucopia, going to the right.
0 likes@Chloé I never said “coloring one once”. I’m saying seeing a LOT of clip art, images, etc of them. I definitely remember that as a kid. And I don’t think justifying it by saying MILLIONS of people think that so they must be right. There has been how many times in history where whole groups of people thought a certain way that was obviously wrong. Humans are fallible. If one human mind can have a false memory, so can a million. And I don’t even know what a “fruit basket” looks like. That’s such a generic descriptor, while a cornucopia is a specific object.
1 like@FlashPone That's my point fruit baskets are definitely more common than cornucopias only seen once a year, and like the video said I associaite cornucopias with vegetables and fall colors. Why would that be where everyones mind goes? I see bunched up fruit all the time my mind could've just left it alone. A fruit basket is basically like a picnic basket, or what holds fruits at farmers markets. Much more common and much more likely to be imagnied by so many, even a bowl would make more sense. Then there's the problem with foreigners who had never even seen the object. People who distinctly remember asking their parents "what's the shell looking thing on my underwear?". Even the artist in the video who made a parody of the logo on a song, but from decades ago. There's no popular similar logo to this to rationalize such a random association. I can rationalize the monoply guy because there's so many things you can confuse it with but seasonal childhood clipart is not a good enough explanation for me especially with the holes that I mentioned.
1 likeI wonder if the Hannaford logo is to blame in some of this. While also lacking a cornucopia, it does have a shape behind the fruits - which by the way, are shaded in a very similar cross-hatch way to the FotL fruits. This may have turned into a cornucopia in some people's minds.
1 likeFurthermore, I know that Hannafords will display cornucopias in ads and on displays around Fall time. Perhaps shared childhood memories of shopping for food and clothing, which could realistically have been done on the same day, could have blended the logos and imagery together.
@eat hot chip and lie Had to look that up I'm from Florida have never seen or heard of that
0 likesi'm from the netherlands, and i also remember the logo havind a "cornucopia", even though i've never seen one outside of the fruit of the loom logo.
2 likesYou’ve seen one outside of the Fruit of the Loom logo. Otherwise you wouldn’t know what a cornucopia is, considering the logo didn’t have one.
0 likes@hiker699 still doesn't explain how everyone could've imagined such an obscure object in the same color and position across the world
1 like@hiker699 i just remember seeing a shell shaped basket or something in the logo, before i saw this video i didnt know what it was
0 likesI remember it being weird that there was a cornucopia with fruit when I had associated it with just vegetables.
1 likeThe strangest thing, to me, is that living in Italy I've never associated Fruit of the Loom to underwear, but only to t-shirts, sweatshirts or hoodies. I've nevers seen Fruit of the Loom underwear.
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Do you remember it with a cornucopia? Do you celebrate Thanksgiving in Italy? lol
0 likes@Gordon Shumway are you trying to be funny :D ? I don't remember any cornucopias, btw. And obviously no, we don't celebrate thanksgiving, but some sort of "harvest celebration" is still celebrated in some rural zones.
0 likesI avidly remember the cornucopia and even have a story about it If you care to read
370 likesThis was around 2006 to 2007ish?
I was very young at the time and noticed the cornucopia on a display sign. I recognized the object from thanksgiving. I asked my mom what the brown thing was called on that sign she told me it was a cornucopia. I decided that fruit of the loom was my favorite brand cause it had a unusual object that reminded me of holidays. I asked her what the sign said she said fruit of the loom. I kept saying fruit of the loom over and over so I’d remember my new favorite brand.
The theory it’s an off brand would make more sense except for the fact it was on a display sign in Walmart. This is the only Mandela effect I can’t come up with some kind of reason why I created a false memory.
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could you ask your mother about the incident?
11 likes@Anne Kaltschmidt I did unfortunately she doesn’t remember. She does agree it should have a cornucopia though
38 likesIs fruit of the loom still your favorite brand?
9 likes@Normal Stranger Lmao no, it was a short phase
34 likesWhy do you need a reason for a false memory? Our brains do that all the time.
12 likesYou probably saw an unrelated picture of a cornucopia with fruit, then mistakenly associated it with Fruit of the Loom.
21 likesI associated it with the brand so much that I remember shopping a few years ago and noticing its absence. I said to my partner “huh, they trimmed down their logo—modernized it. I miss the cornucopia”
35 likesWas it in a Target store?
2 likes@Alex I really doubt it as the nearest target is hours away. It was likely a Walmart
0 likes@LeonFuego no, not as randomly specific a memory as that.
3 likes@John R that's the whole point of the video. The memory is as specific as that. I mean, what would be a less specific false memory?
1 likeMaybe you mixed up your memories from the past. Memories fade as we age. Maybe you saw something with fruits and a cornucopia and thought it was associated with the fruit of the loom brand. My dad told me that when I was younger, I was sent to boarding school and would cry everyday but I can’t for the life of me recollect these memories
1 like@LeonFuego unanswerable question. Having a specific memory about a clothing logo featuring a cornucopia is much less likely to be false than a memory of maybe washing dishes one time
5 likesSlowly over time I've come to accept the possibility (not reality) that cornucopias were items that were very popular in the 80's and 90's... you'd see them in a lot of thanksgiving-related images.. and Fruit of the Loom is the only widespread logo in the world with a collection of fruit (plus, older variations of the logo had large brown leaves on the logo which we also could have short-circuited to be a cornucopia). so our mind automatically pairs it with cornucopia's.. but it's such a damn mystery... I think the human mind plays this trick because the cornoopia is such a strange, unconventional and rare item to see - so it's difficult to remember where we first saw it, since it's shown so rarely in images that we automatically pair it with a well known corporate logo.
0 likesi have the same thing with crisp/chip flavours in the UK, alot of people here think the colours of 2 flavours switched - and whereas there is a logical explanation i could swear on my life i remember being about 7 and my friend having a bag of them at school and i tried them for the first time and made a mental note i didnt like the "blue" flavour he gave me - which now is (and always has been) the green flavour.
1 like"I was very young at the time"
0 likesThere ya go, that's why you're misremembering it having the cornucopia.
Yep! I ONLY know what one is from asking my mom what it was when I was little too looking at a fruit of the loom advertisement sign in Walmart!
1 like@Amelia Madden same!!!! My EXACT thoughts upon not seeing it on the logo & this was WAYYYY before the whole “Mandela effect” thing!
1 like@Snacks how do you explain then me not seeing it on the logo, wayyy before this whole “Mandela effect” thing was ever even thought of & wondering where the cornucopia was?
0 likesSame here at a Walmart too except 2004 or 2005
1 likeI remember it too! It’s how I learned what the word cornucopia means, because I wanted to know what the brown basket was called. This was also in the early 2000s.
1 like@SageSzkStu exactly the same for me
1 likeSame thing with me, both my parents are designers and often talked about logos, that's why I learned the word cornucopia.
1 likeEven as an Australian, where Thanksgiving doesn't exist. I remember the logo having a cornucopia.
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@modernmalls it’s not that strange. Non Americans are exposed to American cultural tropes constantly since they consume all the same media.
10 likes@J.J. McCullough Yeah but Thanksgiving generally isn't one of them here in Australia (at least, not in my experience). We definitely get a lot of Halloween influence tho (and more recently 'Black Friday' stuff, which can actually be seen as quite insensitive here as "Black Friday" is a term used to refer to a terrible bush fire disaster we had here in the late 30s).
9 likes@Hedera True but I mean despite being an uncommon item it’s not impossible for the idea of a fruit pile and a cornucopia to be seen over there too. For example the Coat of Arms of Victoria, Australia has a cornucopia in it so it’s not like people don’t know about them there or anything lol
2 likes@SporkNotFork Lol, really??? Ngl, checking it up just now had been the only time I've ever actually seen the Victoria coat of arms, and I've lived in the state most of my life 'xD lmao
1 likeManaged to unveil some pretty eye opening things by just focusing on a brand of underwear. Impressive.
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I would never think that this stuff would come out of some fruit.
11 likesLove your vids dude!!
4 likesYou really should collab with Emp, good projects can come out of that.
7 likesEmperor and Glink collab when?
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0 likesI just found this one out. Yeah it definitely had a cornucopia. I remember as a kid wondering what the hell that weird shaped basket was on multiple occasions. Man some of these really freak me out.
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Also Shazam was a real Movie damnit
6 likes@hitindahead I remember shazam but I think it was a part of another movie
4 likes@hitindahead huh?
1 likethe thing too is. Im puertorican. i DISTINCTLY remember the cornucopia being there.
24 likesI had never seen one, and (even on our thanksgiving) cornucopias arent a common sight/symbol in my culture. So the mandela effect transcends even language/culture.
@MikeMine2002 sometimes people have bad memories
7 likes@J.J. McCullough hey your the guy from that one jreg video
3 likesyep it had one a long time ago, found my dads old tshirt and it has it
5 likes@Fritiof Clarin no it didn’t.
3 likes@J.J. McCullough it most certainly did
2 likes@J.J. McCullough love your videos dude
2 likes@Fritiof Clarin We need to see a photo of it! I checked my old tshirts that I was sure had the logo with the cornucopia on it and it's not there
3 likesI don’t doubt you remember wondering what a cornucopia was as a kid, but you definitely didn’t wonder that while looking at a fruit of the loom logo. Because it didn’t have one.
4 likesYou were looking at a different image.
Yeah I always remembered it as a weird shaped basket
1 likeMy personal guess is we remember the cornucopia because it's featured in movies and media to avoid copyright infringement, kind of like how modern movies and baking shows aren't allowed to show products they're not sponsored by.
58 likesNobody actively looks at the real-world logo, but the altered one gets shoved in our face, so it's not surprising if it became the dominant version in people's memory.
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Well that doesn't really hold up, as per the south park example he showed. That was a banana and a large purple fruit as minimalistic shapes for 1 scene in low quality. Them keeping the cornucopia shows that thats what makes the reference, that I a part of the original design. Not to mention how it, again, crops up in so many other places
6 likes@Dat Guy I guess the main question here is... If we (the common people) remember the cornucopia because of the media we see that's imitating the logo... Where did that media and their creators get the idea of a cornucopia from then? I guess my main thought would just be that a cornucopia just felt like a natural addition in an otherwise simple logo (in the sense that it's conceptually just a bunch of fruits. A cornucopia's something for a bunch of fruits, so it isn't the largest logical leap to associate those two things together, and eventually put them together into a mental image of a logo that's literally at least one of those things; A bunch of fruits in the Fruit of the loom logo). Because of that, it eventually was added in by at least one person from one of those pieces of media, it spread onto at least another person, creating a plague where people didn't bother to check and just bothered to believe that the cornucopia was there, until it was sealed into the common consciousness. From small scale "I just didn't bother to check the logo, it has a cornucopia, right?" to big scale "Holy shit I swear there was-".
1 likeThere’s been lots of things like this that I noticed throughout my life and always wrote it off as rebranding. When I find out there’s absolutely zero history about the things I remember…. THAT’S when things get weird.
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i agree. about 5 years ago, a musician named Melanie Martinez released a song called "Play Date" and it was always one of my favorite songs. when i listened to the song, i always thought one of the lyrics was "we're undressed, playing hide and seek". about a year ago, the song recently gained popularity again due to tiktok and the artist released a lyric video for it. in the video, the lyrics are "we're just playing hide and seek". when i saw that, i was so confused and looked at different lyric pages and never saw what i remembered. the only things that had the lyrics i remembered were a couple little tumblr posts from 5 years ago. it completely weirded me out that it seemed like only a couple people remembered the lyric this way.
5 likesIn the Philippines, there's a brand of mini-oreo style cookies called "Teenie Weenies" that were a popular snack for young kids, but was discontinued after a while. This became a sort of meme a few years ago when people looking for this nostalgic snack were shocked to find out that there seems to no pictures of it on the internet, and barely (if any) evidence that it ever existed.
4 likesThere is no freakin way this wasn't real. Everyone remembers not just the actual snack, but the design of the plastic tray, the color of the packaging, and the fact that it had a picture of a cartoon hippo (and sometimes an alligator) munching on a cookie in the lower corner of the packaging.
@Vito C in the UK they used to sell 'sour cream and chive' pringles. Now they sell 'sour cream and onion'. But so many of us are sure it was chive but there is no evidence. I have memory cos I hated onions and onion flavour crisp as a kid and the only oniony flavour thing I'd eat was sour cream n chive Pringles cos I was so young I didn't know chive was a type of onion and as long as I didn't have the word onion on it then I'd eat it. I'm so confused lmao. Even on Amazon people still label these pringles as 'sour cream and chive' but it says onion lol
1 likeHere's my theory...I grew up outside of the US, in India, and I do not remember the cornucopia being in the logo. However, when the illustration was shown with the cornucopia, it seemed like it should be there. It just fit. I think it may be because when you google cornucopia, you see multiple cliparts/illustrations/pictires of the cornucopia often with the same fruits in the logo and in the same arrangement. I'm guessing a lot of people recognise a cornucopia from storybooks/textbooks/autumn posters/illustrations of the sort. And because the arrangement, choice of fruits, and even art style is so similar to what you would see in almost any representation of a cornucopia, people automatically remember it being there in the logo as well. A cornucopia is a pretty niche object but it is one of those things that you unconsciously register because it's often included in mundane sources like the textbooks/pictures of autumn, etc mentioned above. Moroever, it's an object that's more prevalent in the western world, or at least we don't have them in India. So, because I was not familiar with the object growing up (the first time I even thought of the word was when I watched hunger games lol), I never remembered it in the logo even though I wore Fruit of the loom products growing up.
9 likesThe weird thing is, I dont specifically remember seeing the logo with a cornucopia, but when I see the logo with a cornucopia it just looks correct. It doesnt look like something was added
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Same!
55 likesI remember it having it !
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8 likesSame
1 likeOmg that’s the same I don’t remember it but it looks right
33 likesMost likely because your brain thinks the logo looks empty and incomplete with just the fruit there. With the Cornucopia added in it just makes the picture feel more complete and pleasant to look at.
102 likesI know it's like I don't remember it but if I see it in the image it just looks right but how was the cornucopia in the logo in the first place.
2 likesSame
1 likeSame
1 likesomeone proved the company applied for a trademark extension and the document gives a very vivid description of the logo, and that includes the cornucopia. I think I saw it posted on reddit. i think applied for in the 90's maybe...
8 likesExactly.
1 likeThat's how the "Mandella Effect" works. Most people don't misremember, but just don't remember it too detailed, and a person accidentally includes a faulty detail and it starts to spread, nobody bothers to check and it becomes too real memory for some people.
16 likesI think the reason why we think it had one was because when we see the cornucopia logo, and it subjectively looks better than the actual logo, making our brain think the more appealing one is the real version.
6 likesSame. I never gave much thought to the logo until the Mandela Effect became a thing, but when I first saw a video showing the two logos and asking "which is right?" I guessed the cornucopia. Also, for what it's worth, I asked my mom what the logo looked like (without telling her about the Mandela Effect beforehand) and she said it had a cornucopia s well.
1 like@Voztenzuk Von Wiigunopyl *Objectively.
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0 likesYeah, exact same situation with me. It does look much more pleasing and eye-catching with the cornucopia, I think, but I don't recall ever thinking the logo had one.
0 likesThats what I thought too
0 likesThat's how it started. Someone misremembered it as being there for whatever reason, and we all just went "oh yeah that looks normal" it must be true
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0 likesThis is exactly how I feel right now
0 likesFr it looks correct both ways
0 likesI remember thinking it had one as a kid and i noticed it didn't
1 likeSame, you just see it, and it feels strangely right...
0 likesSame.
0 likesYeah!
0 likesIt's because your mind is using that drawing to fill in the blanks. Any recreation that he could have shown would have been exactly how you remember it. It doesn't help that the recreation is quite professionally done.
1 likei guess thats because it was drawn in the same style
0 likesunless you're a designer, then it looks like trash.
0 likes@Sgt. Pepper wouldnt say it looks like its correct but it matches the style of the logo
0 likesIts trippy because the cornucopia logo in the video looks exactly like the logo I remember
0 likesThe fact that everyone envisions the cornucopia in the exact same place makes me feel like there’s a different logo/image that everyone is thinking of
25 likes"Fruit of the loom is a confusing name. I see the fruit, so the thanksgiving cone must really be called a loom." - exact thought process of me and a lot of other people during childhood.
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And yet according to all the folks in the comments, just mass false memories
11 likes@John R What else could it be? No evidence of anything else
3 likes@Bunny Man think about what he said.
1 like@John R did you watch the video?
0 likesI’m Swedish and I distinctly remember believing a “loom” was a cornucopia until I watched the hunger games, based on the tag in my Green Day t-shirt with the text “fruit of the loom”. The logo is very distinctly different from how most logos look here in Sweden so it stuck out to me, because it was on all of the band shirts, and the cotton was particularly scratchy
3 likesHonestly, I can't remember whether or not there was a cornucopia in the logo or not. I didn't grow up with this brand of underwear, but I definitely remember seeing the logo in Walmart. I think, like Emp said, it was such a small and mundane detail that I never really sat down and studied the logo. Part of me says that there was cornucopia and another part says otherwise. I'm also wondering if seeing this video implanted the idea of the cornucopia in my head. A case of false memories being formed simply by being introduced to this new idea about a minute detail that I didn't care about.
43 likesI distinctly remember NOT seeing the cornucopia as a kid, but looking at the logo with it added in, it just feels like it's suppose to be there.
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The logo feels so unbalanced without it.
149 likesSomething isn't right.
21 likesMost people probably saw the fake logo and it just looked right so they get the thought that thats the way it always was
60 likesBut theres a lot of evidence to show people have remembered it that way anyway which is so crazy to me
Supposed*
1 likeyou are from this reality and those who remember the cornucopia, have jumped to your parallel world
5 likesSame I think it looks so convincing that it makes people think it was there
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0 likesThe cornucopia version looks just better
0 likesI vividly remember seeing it on my underwear when I was little. I didn't know what the cornucopia was and jokingly assumed that the cornucopia was the "loom" where the fruit came from. I remember learning about Thanksgiving and associating the brand with it after reading what the cornucopia was. What's so weird is that there are a number of references to it that are left over. Even books have described the logo with the cornucopia. What changed?
6 likesMy abnormal growth on my testies twitched at the sight of this comment
0 likesI remember the first I saw the logo back in 1997. I was pretty "old" at the time (16) and thought it was a new clothing brand. To make things short: it had a cornucopia, and since english is not my native language I thought that said cornucopia was a "loom".
2 likesFor me personally, the cornucopia looks like how I “remember” it but I also recall seeing the cornucopia on school lunch menus in November or on calendars. I think something about the shape and placement of the fruits triggers certain memories of seeing Thanksgiving logos and clipart.
0 likesSame
0 likesYea how can someone misremember something that wasn’t there that’s like you design a logo that never existed but everyone says it existed??
0 likesI distinctly REMEMBER the cornucopia, only brand of britches I wore as a kid. Nobody can convince that it wasn’t there. Clearly somethings going on, reality is fleeting no average person knows how this shit works.
0 likesAnd there is such an obvious effort of debunking these occurrences, that there has to be something to it more that “what, are you conspiracy theorists”…
GTFO W/that mess man
Also, it was the grape leaves for me. I remember the point (couldn’t give you an exact time, I just remember making note of it as a child) that I noticed that I had fruit of the loom tags which were different. They had changed the grape leaves from brown to green. At this point I noticed that what I had always just assumed was a cornucopia because I had never paid enough attention was actually leaves. Maybe this was it for a lot of people. Maybe children asked their parents what the brown on their tag was because we are trained as a society to not realize that grapes have such big ugly leaves and their parents couldn’t be assed to answer such an inane question so just answered with what made the most sense to them. It’s a cornucopia! Maybe they were deluded such as myself when they made these claims. We may never know. What it really does is makes us painfully aware of how fragile our consciousness is, even as a species
15 likesHonestly the way I see it is that Thanksgiving is an extremely forefront time of the year to most North Americans and with that the imagery of a cornucopia is extremely common every single year leading up to fall. I think people may have mistakingly taken the image of fruit pilled up as being something familiar to cornucopia imagery nearing Thanksgiving and confused the two.
69 likesI myself don't remember a cornucopia being on the logo at all and I pretty much only owned fruit of the loom undershirts and underwear up until I was out of highschool and I very much remember it just being a pile of fruit, no cornucopia. Although I can agree with people who say that it does look very nice with one added in and I wouldn't mind if the logo was changed to that.
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Yeah I also don’t particularly remember the logo with a cornucopia but it does give off cornucopia vibes
6 likesYes
0 likesI'm guessing it's some contextual brain fogging type thing where young children mix up "fruit of the loom" with the very common idiom "fruits of the harvest". And obviously fruits of the harvest conjure strong cornucopia vibes. I can definitely see young people that don't know what "loom" means yet making that error, then growing up and swearing the underwear has an inexplicable autumn/harvest vibe.
1 likeDoesn't explain it. People from outside the USA who don't celebrate thanksgiving at all remember it. Its not unique to a single country or even culture that's why its interesting.
5 likesIt explains a large portion of it though, obviously it’s not going to be the reason for everyone but it likely is for a few. At the end of the day it’s a brain and it’s impossible to know exactly what specifically malfunctioned for so many people to misremember it but it isn’t like it’s unprecedented. Honestly if it was at all related to parallel universes it would be the least convincing proof of parallel universes there is.
2 likes@UncomfortablyClose maybe some but it's honestly so common that I think the thanksgiving explanation is slightly reductive.
1 likeKind of like the "big foot is just bears walking on their hind legs, look at this video from a zoo!" and like sure that might explain some but bears doing that in the wild is quite rare and so on. I don't believe in bigfoot at all in just using that example. It's a one size fits all explanation that kind of doesn't fit enough to be useful?
It's definitely some of it though, that I'm sure of.
I don’t think it’s trying to be a one size fits all explanation it’s just trying to be an explanation, and I’d say it’s a pretty good one. Not everyone is American but I think it’s a good explanation for some of those who are. It doesn’t have to be the answer for every single person.
1 like@UncomfortablyClose like I said, I'm sure it explain some of it but it's a very us-centric theory on a global brand with people remembering the same thing all over the world. That's why it's interesting, these single country explanations don't actually fit it very well. Otherwise I daresay this theory would solve 90% of it.
2 likesI'm saying this likely explains some of it but the reason this "Mandela effect" thing is more interesting than others is because its not confined to one place where a dominant cultural image (like thanksgiving) can explain it. There's a reason for example, the Shazam thing is only restricted to the US. Shaq wasn't well known in Europe and people who do remember the movie in that area remember wondering who the hell Shaq was more than the movie itself- for example.
Yes and I’m saying it wasn’t trying to explain everything, there is no one answer to why hundreds of people may misremember something, the explanation tries to answer as best it can but it isn’t applicable to every single person.
0 likes@Communist Shoplifting It's an American company so it's hard to find this being popular outside USA. In my country it doesn't exist.
0 likes@Jurij Fedorov it's a global company that was based in America but their clothes are sold worldwide and have been for over half a century.
0 likes@Communist Shoplifting They are maybe sold in a few stores in other countries. But no one knows the brand outside USA. We have thousands of brands and no one cares about this small brand or what their logo looks like.
0 likes@Jurij Fedorov 32,000 employees worldwide, estimated value at over $3.5 billion, sold in every major market on earth and most countries, considered to be one of the best selling clothing companies on the entire earth.
0 likes>small company
>no one outside the USA knows this company
@Communist Shoplifting Try to find a single person who knows about this company outside USA. Not from the internet, but from their daily life.
0 likes@Jurij Fedorov try and find a single person who knows the second most popular clothing brand in Europe from their daily life?
0 likesYeah I'll take that challenge.
There are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association
0 likesSo much of this thread is Americans thinking they're the centre of the world. I'm European and for years never even had the concept of Thanksgiving to misremember the logo, let alone even know what a cornucopia was
0 likesI’ve looked into this a lot as it fascinates me, and I think you’re right. I’ve asked a lot of older people from the U.K. and they’ve all said they don’t remember a cornucopia at all, they described it as just fruit. it seems to be an exclusively American thing, and the thanksgiving adverts and logos often have the cornucopia on.
0 likes@immune18First if you watch the video it disputes why thanksgiving wouldn't really make sense, and there are a lot of people from other countries who remember it. Still does not explain it
0 likes@Chloé oh right. Hmmm so strange isnt it, must just be some kind of error in the brain.
0 likesIt's funny, I always thought it was weird that the logo DIDN'T have a cornucopia, because why would you just have a bunch of fruit hanging free as a logo for underwear? It's supposed to carry your family fruit lmao!
37 likesI grew up about 30 minutes away from a fruit of the loom factory that employed a vast number of people when there was no other work available and it was a total outrage when they shipped production abroad a number of years ago.
7 likesAs a kid I remember distinctly hearing the word "cornucopia" several times in relation to that logo. I've never seen a cornucopia anywhere but on the logo.
Isn’t it crazy how the recreations of the cornucopia are drawn exactly how we remember it...exactly like we never saw it.
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31 likesIt doesn't look how I remember it
11 likesGoddamn I remember telling my mom what’s that thing behind the fruit on the tag of my shirt. I think things were changed.
211 likes@Medroff I think you mistook it for a cornucopia. You probably saw one before, like in class, but your mom wasn't around to be asked. Then you saw the logo
18 likes@Medroff I have to agree with the ventriloquist magician, you definitely asked a teacher, not your mom.
12 likes@Ventriloquist Magician this was like 13 years ago in the 4th grade. She got me new clothes for school that’s when I saw it.
9 likes@wheedler damn I can’t believe people can be so adamant about something but have no context or even any knowledge about it. I’m typing about you btw.
32 likes@Medroff you remember something wrong, that's part of the human condition. it's normal.
28 likesEither you remember it wrong
or they changed the tag and there's some elaborate explanation on why it 'changed' without any record or actual solid evidence.
so you misremember it.
@Devin Giltner i don't think that's it, as quite literally everyone I can ask to (without showing the images beforehand to not skew results) remembers the cornucopia, in the same style that's drawn there.
26 likesAnd it comes from people that live literally all around the world, for example I'm in Italy. Fruit of the loom here was never a standalone brand, but that brand you'd find on the printed t-shirts on a town festival, it was never publicized or sold anything in stores. People here have only seen the logo briefly and never looked at it for long, probably just to cut the tag off as it's itchy. It's not a logo that's so generalized that you start to mix your memories with other similar stuff... so for everyone to remember the logo with a cornucopia is very weird. It's a bit like measurements. You get one measurement that's 0.08" too short? Well, that could easily be an error in the measuring instrument, or a mistake on your part. But if you repeat the measurement multiple times, with different instruments and different people, a d they all come out 0.08" too short... That's less likely to me an anomaly.
@Medroff are you really not considering how your mom could have bought a knock off?
8 likesAnd the knock off had the cornucopia.
@lasarousi They don’t have knock of fruit of the loom at Walmart.
21 likesIt's because your mind is using that drawing to fill in the blanks. Any recreation that he could have shown would have been exactly how you remember it.
14 likes@Geone that dosent make sense at all
7 likes@nano 123 then you didn't pay attention to the video
6 likes@Ventriloquist Magician Because there never was one.
1 like@FAB1150 it's never had a cornucopia in the logo in the UK, just the apple, the grapes and the leaves
2 likes@D4NOMAUS FPS yet literally everyone I asked remembers one, without knowing this story beforehand.
6 likesYup it looks exactly as I remember it as a 2000s kid
1 like@FAB1150 I’m late to the party, I know. Here are my two cents. No offense, I don’t mean to insult you, but from your comments here, it seems like you’ve spend a fair amount of time reading into this. You want to believe in the case you’re making. The problem with this is that you’re not a neutral observer, you can’t have a sober conversation with people and ask them about it if you already expect a specific outcome.
11 likesThis happens all the time, even to the best experimenters. They expect a specific outcome and thus influence the conversation or convince themselves that the answers they receive support their hypothesis. Which is why double-blind trials were invented. :)
It’s truly unsettling how - in this case too - we cannot trust our brains to know truth from a mental image we have. It will make sure to paint colorful, lively pictures into our head whenever it serves to purpose of having a cohesive memory. And cohesive memories are memories that keep our perception of the present intact. Your perception right now is that you’re right. That >>could<< literally be all it takes.
@Beep Boop I’m A Robot that's actually a great comment and in no way an insult, don't worry.
6 likesI'm aware of that and I never mention anything about the logo on purpose. My conversation usually goes like this:
"Do you remember fruit of the loom, that brand you find on promotional or street fair t-shirts?"
"Oh yeah / no I don't"
(If it's a yes) "can you tell me what logo you remember? Describe it to me"
"It's a bunch of fruit on a weird wicker basket / a cornucopia / a brown thing in the background" (actual answers I got, obviously translated from Italian)
If they mention a basket or similar container I asked the shape of it. No descriptive terms ever got out of my mouth. It's (almost) always a cornucopia, but there's always a wicker container.
That's the weird thing, that everyone remembers at least a wicker container, even if it strictly isn't a cornucopia, without me mentioning one beforehand (since that could actually put it in their memories). When I show the actual logo, people always are at least in the "huh, weird" mood.
If it was just me and a few people on the internet... Well, that would be just our memories playing with us.
With every other weird "oh do you remember it like this?" there's at least somebody I find who remembers it correctly, and some variation between how the people remembers the incorrect thing. Not with this. Every single person has the same recollection of the logo.
Not me, i remember it coming from the left. And sometimes i think of a basket instead
1 like@FAB1150 this proves his point, those people you talk to assume that fruit of the loom in and of itself implies the existence of a cornucopia in peoples minds, it's ubiquitous in our cultural awareness and perception to do with fruit and logos, imo. Only 3 possibilities likely exist, they changed the logo but no one has one as proof, or knockoff companies made one with that logo but no one can provide one as proof, or everyone just wants the logo to have the basket cause in our minds thats what makes the most sense, but it doesnt and never has.
5 likes@Medroff Take a hit, buddy!
1 likeWe're trying to help you! If you admit you saw it like the rest of us do remember it then they'll come after you!
@Ventriloquist Magician I remember the cornucopia on the left side of the fruit.
0 likesThat's not actually how you remembered it. You remembered "there is supposed to be a cornucopia." Then someone showed it to you and your mind retroactively updated itself to imagine THAT cornucopia.
2 likesInstantly when the video started I saw the logo and was like. Yeah it’s missing the cornucopia.
2 likesSometimes I really wonder about people who are talking on comments, because I noticed there's a divide between people, one group of people seem unmovable in this idea that everybody's wrong and it's all a fallacy and your brain is wrong, and it's imagination, and another group of people where they saw the logo they had experiences with the logo and their normal human beings, the way some people talk doesn't seem correct have you ever noticed that read the comments in this chat and just look at the way some people talk doesn't it sound almost planned out like it's programmed into those people?? 😂😘💕
4 likesThe Cornucopia That Never Was
1 likeIsn't this very adequately and simply explained, by people seeing OTHER images—with the same motif to the FotL-logo—featuring a fucking corn-dog?
0 likesI was thinking the same thing that looks exactly the way I remember it
1 likeIt truly is,
0 likes@FAB1150 People's minds work more similarly than you're giving credit for. Humans misremember in patterns.
1 like@lasarousi dude look at you. Watch some crazy shit have happened in 2012 with CERN and in the future we figure it out. Also could be quantum immortality.
0 likes@Beep Boop I’m A Robot and the same could be said about yourself?
0 likesThe internet has made it abundantly obvious that we all keep switching to different timelines and mass scale communication has allowed us to catch the indescrepencies between each universe each time it happens, this wouldn't have been possible before
2 likesExactly!
0 likesI remember saying that that was the loom for the fruit because I didn’t know what it was at the time
0 likes@GeoneIt would be different for different people. I didn't even know what a cornucopia was before I heard about this a long time ago and still remembered the same image
0 likes@Medroff The leaves? 🙂
0 likesIt's crazy how easy our human brains tend to fill in the gaps in reality.... Sometimes it's hard to suspend disbelief until you really take in the idea that the human brain simply is way too unreliable at remembering things, but it's very good at being creative even without you deliberately trying to do so.
0 likesThe real question is: why does Fruit of the Loom devote so much effort to censoring the truth of their old logo?
6 likesThis is definitely a case of conflating 2 logos in our collective memory, and I just wish I could figure out what actually had the cornucopia as part of the logo
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Every logo existing with a cornucopia i can find doesn't make sense. I've never heard of any of the people or companies that use a cornucopia
5 likesNo, this is evidence that CERN did do something.
2 likes@Newbuild Muse lmao imagine actually believing that 🤣
0 likesIt’s pretty common for media without product placement to tweak a logo in order to allude to the thing (Pear instead of Apple etc.). The cornucopia looks really good behind the fruit, so my guess is somebody threw it in on whatever project to make a recognizable pseudo-brand. Since it looked so nice, other people who wanted to reference Fruit of the Loom made the same addition and it became standardized with time. You probably see this media variant more or less as often as the original now, so it no longer registers as a parody.
9 likesThere’s probably an obscure patient zero for this buried in decades of archives but it isn’t very searchable.
i vividly remember the cornucopia being on the logo. i had only seen the fruit of the loom logo a few times on custom t-shirts from various activities i did as a child but i swear there was a cornucopia. i’m british, so i never encountered any other fruit of the loom products nor had seen the logo anywhere but those t-shirts. i feel like cornucopias are a mostly american thing as well and i had no idea it was called a cornucopia until last year when i found out about this mandela effect. i’m literally so confused since the logo is the only place i had ever even “seen” a cornucopia before
2 likesThat paid promotion was low key super creative
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You make good content
8 likes@L Train 45 yeah because company bad money bad right?
12 likes@L Train 45 why not
4 likesIT BROKE NEW GROUND!
1 likeSo.....is it low key or is it super?
0 likes@Charlie Benham low key is basically an adverb now
0 likesFor some reason, after rewatching this video and seeing the logo with the cornucopia, something about it felt familiar to me. Comfortable, even. I thought it was probably because I've seen this video before, but for some reason after rewatching it, now I'm getting the feeling that I've seen this version of the logo way before that, like as a kid.
9 likesWhat's weird is before watching this video, I didn't even remember having any memories the Fruit of the Loom logo without it. Either rewatching this video somehow triggered some Mandela affect-type memories within me for some reason, as in those false memories were always in my mind and I guess I maybe wasn't paying that much attention to the video so that's why I didn't feel that way before, or what happened was the thing where false memories are planted into your brain (I don't know what that's called, but I do know that's a thing).
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Time is an infinitely looping multiversal simulation and your current consciousness can sometimes unhinge itself from this "timeline" and "swap" or even "merge" with another you. Deja Vu is your awareness of this fact, usually in the form of nostalgia. Ideally you should feel comfort but when you are hyper aware of the truth of time that nostalgia is replaced with dread causing a phenonmena known as Deja Vecu.
1 likeAdding the cornucopia to fruit is exactly the same as adding a monocle to a top hat -
5 likesThey collocate perfectly!!
What people don’t realize is that your memories can be changed just in a whim. If you think you misremembered something and you change it to something else you believe that to be the actual memory but it could’ve been something completely different and like emp said we use multiple memories to construct one and the same with words which why we sometimes mistake certain words that look similar for one or the other. Reality is really just in your head and you can change it to be anything you want
4 likesI think it's perfectly in line with the Monopoly example.
168 likesThe way the fruits are arranged is typical for an arrangement that would also have a cornucopia behind them. And since a cornucopia with fruits coming out of it is such a common image, it's natural for people to associate it with an image of fruit by themselves. Cornucopia arrangements aren't limited to warm colors, and pumpkins aren't always featured. Grapes are an even more common element in cornucopia pictures, and aside from the apple, the rest of the Fruit of the Loom logo is comprised of grapes and grape leaves.
People having specific memories about it are probably mistaken about those memories as well. They learned about the cornucopia from the common thanksgiving image, and mentally conflated that image with the logo which they also misremembered as having a cornucopia. Likewise with the people who thought it was called a loom. Because they mistakenly remembered the cornucopia being in the logo, they also assumed that the cornucopia was called a loom.
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Most likely situation
3 likesYes thats what im thinking too! Growing up in europe, cornucopia connects to greek history and making wine out of grapes in my mind. It absolutely fits the image in my head just like the monopoly man
5 likesNaturalistic explanations are all fine and well with most phenomena, but they don't explain everything. I can tell you that as ignorant and as neglected of a child that I was growing up that I had no notion of where food came from. I had the image of a ranch for animal products but for the longest I thought produce came from stores. Eventually farming was explained to me, making me feel really stupid.
5 likesI didn't know what a cornucopia was nor did I know what "that basket thing" was used for nor that it was called a cornucopia, and I do remember asking about it when I was really little until I was told it was some sort of basket.
I've experienced tons of Mandela effects before even being told about this general idea that explains these phenomena.
Believe what you want but I assure you that people really have experienced some of these things. Indeed some times things might be corrected by the brain after pattern recognition has been made but small children haven't been exposed to enough to have an easy subconscious association to ignore a proper focus onto such things, I was always focusing very hard on the examples I clearly remember which aren't easily explained and asking questions about them like I was for everything.
But my overwhelmed single mother almost always was too preoccupied so I just would keep visually experiencing day to day things without words or listening to things that almost everybody's heard which generally are heard about the same way or divides into two general camps of memory.
Anyway keep an open yet critical mind, study hard and think for yourself. Peace!
That doesn't really account for the people who only learnt what a cornucopia is from seeing the logo and inquiring about it. Or who thought it was a fruit or something instead until finding out what a cornucopia is from learning about the Mandela Effect.
2 likesThis! "Isn't this very adequately and simply explained, by people seeing OTHER images—with the same motif as the FotL-logo—featuring a fucking corn-dog?"
1 likethats an astronomic reach
0 likesThere are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association
5 likesno, I exactly remember that I thought the thing was called 'loom', because of this logo.
2 likesYou can officially make anything interesting
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Interesting this giving interest of interest
14 likesAy!! Cool to see you here
6 likesKeep up the good work with those pokemon challenges!
That's why premises are completely irrelevant to whether a work of fiction is good or not, even though most people will attribute a lot of weight to the premise when discussing why they like something or when deciding whether they should check something out.
7 likesThe cornucopia in the logo is not actually a cornucopia at all. It's a Helix Fossil.
7 likesEy saw you in the comments yesterday on a gamers from mars video I think.
1 likeWhy aren’t you verified?
1 likeBut which fossil did you pick???
8 likesfruit of the loom is good for the youtube algorithm
5 likesYo, I just watched your recent video, how you doin?
0 likesOh hey it’s this guy
0 likesdude your oblivion challenges are hilarious, thanks for making them. so cool to see people still breathing life into that ancient, crooked, bloomfilled, glorious mess
2 likes@zzzaxyl Thanks man!
1 like@Astralivity wha
0 likesBut i want Lightning McQueer and the quest for tires 2
0 likesLove your videos man! It's nice to see a content creator like you watches Emplemon's videos :D
1 likeWhich Fossil did you pick, Mah-Dry-Bread?
0 likesHaha no fucking way dude. I just found this channel and I'm obsessed lmao. Man to think I was missing out over the year(s)!
1 likeThis one genuinely made me question my existence. I don’t know why I would imagine such a specific thing. I was introduced to this one as a verbal question, so it couldn’t have been confirmation bias.
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But even weirder, why do we ALL remember it. We all remember it in the same place. We also all recognize the drawing shown in the thumbnail as THE drawing. So weird.
1 likeTheorization: The Cornucopia is likely there due to the mental affiliation of it typically being filled with fruit in a pooling out way, which may effect memory as result in some way.
2 likesI think the Simpsons is actually the reason for a large part of this phenomenon. They constantly misquote/misrepresent Pop cultural references only slightly and therefore make adolescents believe that was a direct quote instead of a paraphrase.
14 likesThere's definitely a cultural element here. I'm from the UK, I grew up with school uniforms that had fruit of the loom labels, but I've never imagined the cornucopia. Possibly since its association with harvest and Thanksgiving weren't a part of my culture. I'm not sure I even knew what one was until I was a teen. Also played Monopoly a lot as a kid, but we don't have Mr Peanut here either, and I never imagined the monacle on Mr Monopoly.
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same here..old HS uniforms made by them but defo no memory of cornocopia/horn
1 likeI grew up in the UK and had lots of sportswear for sports day and school that had the logo, but I still feel like I remember the cornucopia
1 likeThey should honestly add the cornucopia, it looks better with it
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Well, I don't think they're going to add a cornucopia after 170 years just because it would look better.
82 likes@Dzhikhad why not that would be like saying Pepsi wouldn't change the logo just because they've been using it for so long and honestly with how prevalent means the internet culture is with corporate life nowadays I could totally see this happening
187 likesHard disagree
19 likesNah
4 likesCorrection- it looked better
50 likesNo it doesn't it looks like a pile of shit behind some fruit
22 likes@Dzhikhad why not? Companies change logos all the time and it'd be a nice nod to this phenomenon
19 likesThe fact it looks better with it is exactly why everyone remembers it with it. The layout looks exactly like a cornucopia of fruit spilling out, so out brains form the connection when recalling.
45 likesthey already did in the universe I'm from...
7 likes@Dzhikhad I think you missed all the redesigns in the video.
4 likesNah, it ruins the balance
0 likesIt did have a cornucopia. This timeline’s logo is different.
7 likes@Dzhikhad BUT it would become more popular & make the brand logo legendary, the only brand to change to the mandela. For the meme.
5 likesI didn't know it was called that
0 likes@rafael Perez no it didn't have cornucopia, did we watch same video?
0 likes@A Isopod yes we did, and yes it did.
3 likesYou should read the comment I posted here somewhere
@rafael Perez ok Alex Jones, whatever you say am not auguring with you
0 likesagreed
1 likeIt always did
0 likes@Joshua M Pepsi has changed their logo a few times
0 likes@A Mad Hollow but it didn't, do you need watch the video again?
0 likesThat's why our brains are inserting it.
0 likesFruits spilling from a cornucopia is such an ancient image.
cornucopium
0 likesno. it does not.
0 likes@A Isopod do you not understand how the super large hadron collider works?
0 likes@A Mad Hollow yes and, that has nothing do with this, just bring up science stuff doesn't prove your stupid conspiracy theory, it just proves you were drop as child
0 likesAgreed, and it would screw with people even more, which would be awesome and give them way more brand awareness.
1 like@Dzhikhad why not its somehow more recognizable
0 likes@Dan Loeb that doesn't account for all the people who didn't even know what a cornucopia was, had never seen them anywhere else, and thought it was some type of squash, or a weird tree branch thing
1 likeI was going to say if we are wrong and it never existed then I guess are crazy imaginations are better designers then the fruit of the loom people
1 likeSorry if that came out weird I'm really stoned
0 likesFruit of the Cornucopia
0 likesThis is exactly why people think that there's a cornucopia in it
0 likesAgreed
0 likesthey should just make like 600 underwear with cornucopias mixed in and say nothing about it
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0 likesThe cornucopia looks like absolute shit in emp's mock up.
0 likesI have my old undies still from fruit of the loom it has a cornucopia
0 likesthey should add it but in reverse to annoy people
0 likes@Dyslexic Batnam boognish in wild
0 likes@Joshua M But the thing is, Pepsi has changed it's logo
0 likesNo.
0 likes@Mann-Nova have to disagree with you
0 likesi have various band shirts that have shirts branded with fruit of the loom. when i started watching the video i was fully confident there was no cornucopia but as the video went on my confidence dwindled and it looked far more familiar with the cornucopia. i had to go out and find all of them just to see whether or not the cornucopia was there which it wasn't. also note that i'm not american. i had never seen the logo nor heard of the brand until i got the first of the shirts in maybe july or august of this year when they were shipped here so i've had little to no experience with observing the brand. its messing with my mind just a bit
5 likesRegarding the Jif and Skippy thing , there’s a brand of stove top popcorn called jiffy pop
26 likesI was on board for the explanation of the Mandela effect as being largely due to retrospective reconstruction of memories. You lost me when you put a cornucopia filled with fruit and a logo of a pile of fruit which people mistakenly remember as having a cornucopia and went "these things are irreconcilable".
2 likesPeople don't mistakenly remember other piles of fruit as having cornucopias because they aren't inked and colored in a way that looks extremely reminiscent of default Microsoft thanksgiving clipart. It also probably helps that a fruit on a juice box is a thing you eat and not a decorative metaphor.
I full on know there wasn’t a cornucopia on any of the fruit of the loom t shirts I’ve worn, but it probably just looks so perfect for everyone’s brain that I feel as if our brain just fills in the blank for all of us just because it fits so much in with the logo
2 likesIt's weird... after the first time I watched this, I inquired about the Fruit of the Loom logo to my dad while visiting him. Figured since he was born in the early 60's, that he was old enough to give an interesting response, and he doesn't use the internet so his recollection wouldn't be tainted by people discussing the phenomenon. I did my best to not prime his mind, and to let his recollection be his own. He, too, recalled the cornucopia, but here's the kicker: "cornucopia" wasn't a term he was very familiar with. When I talked to him about it, I had to explain to him what a cornucopia was. The term he himself had used for the object was "Loom", as in "Yeah, [that brown basket thing is] the Loom", which makes me wonder if there was some prominent TV show or movie in the past that made a joke about the "Loom" in Fruit of the Loom being a cornucopia or basket. And from there, the thought jumped culturally from person to person until it had infected everyone's mind with the idea. A "meme' in the literal sense. I can almost see the scene and hear the dialogue in my mind, it feels like a natural joke to make. I dunno.
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If it interests you, i'm a native spanish speaker and even though most of the media that i watch is in english i have no idea what a Loom is
131 likesAnd i never paid much attention to the logo but whenever i read "fruit of the loom" first thing to pop in my head was the fruits not in a cornucopia but in a kind of glass bowl (more like a plate than a bowl idk how to explain it) because that's how generally my mother displays the fruit on the table
So maybe people that remembers the cornucopia didn't know what a loom is either and their brain just went to how fruit was displayed in their home
@Eliel Solares I think that's a reasonable hypothesis. For reference, a loom is a large device that weaves yarn together into a fabric. "Fruit of the Loom" is a reference to how their product is produced using looms. "- is the fruit of -" is an archaic English saying for "this one thing is derived from another", in reference to fruit being from trees. In other words the company's products are "fruit of the loom".
73 likesEven though a loom (or modern versions of such) are vital products to modern society, they are rarely encountered by day to day people. It's not too surprising for even a native speaker to be unaware of what a "loom" is, exactly.
On another note, I know exactly what you mean by fruit being displayed in a bowl-like glass container, because that is also a somewhat common way of displaying fruit in the US. Though you will usually see fake plastic fruit (for decorative purposes), rather than real ones. Using a real cornucopia to display produce isn't common at all except for maybe on Thanksgiving or similar holidays during the Fall season. Even then, you usually see it in pictures or art rather than an actual, physical one. I imagine it was more common many decades ago, but probably not for nearly a century. Which still begs the question: "Why did their minds go to a cornucopia, rather than a glass bowl or plate like you described?"
@Kurt Yarish I actually just recently learned what a cornucopia is, and I still remember the cornucopia even though I had never heard of one before. Also, the drawing of the cornucopia is the exact same version everyone else remembers. Weird, isn't it?
27 likes@Rip Roarin' Bro, the Mandela Effect usually doesn't affect me, like I know for a fact Pikachu never had black on the tip of his tail, but the cornucopia is definitely vivid in my mind. But even while I was watching this video, my mind began to question itself, wondering if I ever had thought there was one there to begin with, or I if I just THOUGHT I thought there was one there... 🤔
17 likesi grew up thinking that brown thing was a loom too.
7 likes@Rip Roarin' but there was! I don't know why I remember it but I do! TBH Mandela effect is when a bunch of people agree that reality is stupid
3 likes@Chemikalz I had a pickachu plushie with the black in it's tail in the late 90s.
2 likesIsn't this very adequately and simply explained, by people seeing OTHER images—with the same motif to the FotL-logo—featuring a fucking corn-dog?
0 likes@Chemikalz no no. Pikachu definitely had black tail tip
0 likes@C L why would a music album from the 70s, a movie from the 90s, and show from the 2000s all depict the logo with a cornucopia in it? Weird huh?
2 likes@PTREK BOX BREAKS not at all weird, if only you 1. read my comment above, and 2. use your brain
0 likes@Chemikalz I remember from playing the games that it states that markings on the tail are gender markers (also probably depending on the game, I haven't played a pokemon game since diamond and pearl) and I think I remember it saying that female pikachus had an indented black mark on the tail. The show's main pikachu howerver doesn't have any markings on the tail. Even looking at pictures of the show, other pikachus have subtle differences on their tails, including black marks. This instance seems like it came out of being pedantic about THE Pikachu rather than overall 'population'.
1 likeI like how the comment started off unbiased and just from the father's opinion who's very old and doesn't use internet.... Then starts talking about a bunch of personal opinions that make no sense, does she not believe her father, because it was there!!!
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0 likesKurt, my dad had many Fruit of the Loom undershirts and underwear in the 80's and 90's... I just asked my dad fully expecting him to also have remembered it being there. He said he didn't remember it being there! But then I showed him the actual logo and he said he didn't remember it looking like that either - then he said it's possible, but that he doesn't pay attention to small things like that... but I just feel like he must have if even I did. Such a mystery
1 like@SevenFoot Pelican Wild! I wonder where my dad got the idea from? I don't think he particularly wore many Fruit of the Loom products, but he's certainly owned his fair share. Perhaps that's why my dad misremembered the logo and your didn't.
1 likeI also wonder if the phenomenon is do to people conflating their memories of Thanksgiving Day decorations incorporating cornucopias with the Fruit of the Loom logo? Simply replacing one pile of edible plants with another?
I only knew what a cornucopia was from the fruit of the loom logo when I was little
1 likeI also distinctly remember thinking the cornucopia was a loom as a kid.
1 likeI think it’s because so many of us thought a “loom” was a cornucopia.
0 likesAs someone that saw curious george for a good half of my childhood, when I heard people thought he had a tail it really messed with my mind because I remember george using his feet hands to climb and hang upside down but the thought of him having a tail just makes so much sense 😂
3 likesI am Italian and was born in the 2000s so I never really knew Fruit of the Loom because it wasn’t popular during my childhood, but once for a school play I had to buy a plain orange t-shirt and my dad (who’s from the 70s) suggested we bought a Fruit of the Loom one from Amazon. I vividly remember seeing the cornucopia on the label, although I didn’t know what it was and thought it was a willow basket. I think that this shows how I was not influenced from the reality to resemble the cornucopia with the logo, because I didn’t know what thanksgiving was nor did I ever see it on the TV because it’s really not a thing in Italy. Craziest part is that both me and my mom remember not giving this shirt away (even though I bought it when I was 11, I still have a lot of shirts from my childhood and they still fit me, so I don’t get why I should have thrown it) but, looking in my drawers and closet I can’t find it. It still leaves me shocked to this day. I don’t think this “mystery” will ever be solved, but we’ll se…
1 likeThis is actually scary I SWEAR it’s always been there, I havnt worn fruit of the loom clothes since 4th grade but i swear it was there
2 likesThe weirdest thing about the Mandela effect to me is my lack of being able to visualize what I am trying to recall, for example I remember pikachu’s tail having a black mark but I can never draw or have seen an image that looks right with the black mark, and the cornucopia I remember but the one in the image looks wierd and I can’t think of where it should go to make it look right.
2 likesWho drew that exact image of the cornucopia? EVERYBODY seems to remember exactly that drawing so we only need to find whoever drew that
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you're speaking straight facts here. You need more likes
287 likes@Adrian is Doing NO FAP Day 1 It’s someone who put a stock image that looked closest to the fruit of the loom artstyle, desciribing what they thought it looked like. It’s not important to find who made the image
317 likes@Squid frick my dude that is exactly the logo though.
130 likes@Gunplabro It isn’t. Captain D literally explained in his video, it’s a stock drawing of a cornucopia
48 likes@Squid frick What they're saying is that exact cornucopia that Emp is using is overwelmingly the one everyone remembers.
115 likesI actually remember the cornucopia in question being darker than how the designer(s) drew it.
13 likesI remember the entire thing being black and white but the design was still the exact same, and yet looking at it with color also looks correct! I feel like I'm loosing my mind lmao
19 likesit is pixel for pixel a perfect representation
18 likesI think it's a model from Don't Starve that was photoshopped in
3 likesPeople in this thread who genuinely think this might have been the logo weren't paying attention during the part of the vid that explained how memory works. You think this is the way the logo looked because the image above is filling in that blank and suggesting that's how it looked. There's no way anyone remembers the exact lines or whatever of the cornucopia, if it was ever there―knowing what we know form this vid, the fact that you're so sure this is the right logo should be evidence to you that it isn't
60 likesI will hold him hostage
3 likes@Chompy the Beast bro, I remember it. Maybe you can't trust your memory, but I can mine
13 likes@Tube Guy lol, then you are a savant who not only remembers incredible detail, but detail that never existed in this context. Don't be silly. Your confidence doesn't change how memory works
39 likesI remember seeing the cornucopia in a book in 1st grade. It's possible it was just a stock image used in many places and we just conflate everything.
8 likes@MysteryManTK And that whoever made the image is the mastermind behind the conspiracy.
0 likes@Chompy the Beast it's that confirmation bias thing, ain't it? or something similar. There's a lot of memories i have - though not this one, as a non american who never even heard of this brand - of other like, brand namey things that were common over here that were not as i remembered. I have embraced the fallibility of my memory and tend to take it into account whenever i am faced with contrary views or evidence that challenges that memory, and it is honestly a good thing because it causes me to pause and check the facts as they are, not the facts as I remember them. And guess what? A lot of the time, when that happens, i find out I was absolutely wrong in my recollections! That there is proof enough to me that memory is a mutable construct that can and will change in a way that is subconscious or unconscious based on everything from dreams to external pressures or suggestions.
4 likesPeople should be more open to this - as being close minded about your own memory is something which often leads to folk adopting increasingly strange and illogical viewpoints, ranging from flat earther mentalities to general conspiracy theorists to the classic version of antivaxxers (the hardcore ones), all of whom completely reject evidence of reality as a whole if it runs contrary to their memory of learning the thing they believe in. Okay, a little bit of escapism generally won't hurt folk in moderation, but folk really need to consider how far they're willing to slide beyond mere escapism into full on fantasy, and need to know when to go out of their way to search for the facts without simply taking refuge in biased sources six pages deep in google just because those sources match their memory.
@Chompy the Beast your all gaslighting me
3 likes@im gauge Haha nah, it's not a conspiracy against you, it's just the Mandela Effect. People haven't stripped the internet of proof of this misremembered memory just to mess with those who swear they have it, nor did they design the human brain to operate the way it does.
11 likesWhat's weird to me is how fundamentally some people want to believe that their memory is somehow a perfect storage device, such that even when they're confronted with how is actually works, they'd reject science and reality in preference of what they think they already know, even in the absence of all proof
I mainly agree, but I remember it being a bit "browner" and "straw-y".
0 likes@Chompy the Beast to be fair, this is a theory that is challenging someones reality, as your memory is usually synonymous with reality of the past. to give something like this up is a lot harder than it sounds logically. i think its like why its so hard to convert a religious person to another religion, we frame our lives around what we believe to be true, even in the absence of proof for it
4 likes@im gauge Indeed, the issue is less the memory and more the way that people incorrectly think about their memory. People trust their senses far too much, especially when time has passed.
5 likesBut this "Mandela Effect" stuff is just outrageous to cleave to: It can be proven beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt that the Fruit of the Loom logo never had a cornucopia in it. Old commercials and advertisements exist, and not one of them has been shown to use a cornucopia.
Some people seem to think "the Mandela Effect" doesn't refer to a collective misremembering, but to like, a glitch in the Matrix or something, where reality was literally changed, and their individual memories are more correct than external reality. That is beyond faith in one's memory, that is sheer ignorance, petulance even, a childlike demanding that one can't possibly be wrong despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary high enough to block out the sun.
If people had better understanding of their human limitations, the world would be a safer, kinder, smarter, and gentler place
@im gauge Our senses are all we have to interact with the outside world, so you're right, we must rely on them. But we shouldn't trust them (and by extension, ourselves) to be infallible, for they aren't. We must understand that everything we think we know about the universe we only know through the filters of our senses, and those filters change, both moment-to-moment and over time, and their memory storage is not a 1:1 recreation of reality stored within our minds. We have never experienced the faces of our mothers or the embrace of a loved one by any means other than via our fallible senses. We have to accept, therefore, that everything we know, we only know by proxy. You and I may both look at the same rock, but we will see different things, and we will remember it differently, 10 minutes later, 10 days later, 10 years later. That's something that we must accept, whether we like the sounds of it or not. We must accept it as we must accept death: Though it may be unpleasant and it may cause existential dread, denial will not make us wiser or more correct.
3 likesAnd yeah, the Mandela Effect gets its name because the South African apartheid government clearly wanted everyone to forget that Nelson Mandela was still living. Cover-ups can indeed be committed, and it's good to be naturally suspicious of authority and power―it would just be better if "We the People" challenged our human masters out of skepticism far more, and physics itself a bit less (outside of scientific pursuits).
Good points, thanks for bringing them up. Have a great week
And the official logo just looks out of place everytime i see it on products and boxes.
0 likesI always thought it was on the other side? Maybe it was my mind filling in a gap?
0 likes@Chompy the Beast That still doesn't explain why soooo many people chose to visualize a cornucopia behind the fruit. Yes, our memory is flawed, but... Why a cornucopia specifically? As someone who vividly and clearly remembers it being there, this whole thing is a little disturbing lol. And I have a degree in Psychology so I understand how memory works, but... it doesn't make it any less weird. Why didn't we imagine the fruit in a basket, or something other than a cornucopia? It's just such an obscure, archaic object that no one would recognize if not for Fruit of the Loom and/or Thanksgiving.
1 like@EvanDoood These questions are easily answered: Because the Fruit of the Loom logo looks like common cornucopia imagery. But it never had it. We can easily confirm this by looking at old commercials, advertisements, and old clothes with the logo on them. Not a single instance of any of these has produced a version of the logo with the cornucopia. It never existed.
3 likesSo why do people think it did? First, the Fruit of the Loom logo is one we are not encountering regularly. If you'd seen it daily or weekly for years, you would not have misremembered it. But it's not that common a logo for most of us―there is a reason why there are no "Mandela Effect" arguments surrounding the McDonald's logo, for example.
Second, cornucopia imagery is extremely common, and indeed is far older than our civilization. If you google "cornucopia" or "horn of plenty" (the translation for its Latin name), you'll get images that look distinctly like the Fruit of the Loom logo, except spilling out of a cornucopia, that go back to the Roman days. The imagery is super common in America around Thanksgiving, but it's also something that you see a lot more as a 5th grader or younger, doing Finger Turkeys and making Pilgrim Hats out of paper in class. Again, the age of these memories comes into play, and the fact that cornucopia imagery is more commonly encountered than the Fruit of the Loom logo makes it easy for people to conflate the former with the latter.
Finally, the alternative, that this is some strangely effective cover-up, or that the universe itself reset but forgot to make people forget, is just ridiculous. There isn't even any motivation for any group to purge all records of the Fruit of the Loom's logo just because it used to have a cornucopia but now doesn't. If there were any legitimate examples of the logo with that cornucopia behind it, they would have surfaced quite quickly, people would still have sweatshirts with it from back in the day in their closets. But no such photos exist.
No matter how you look at it, it's very clear that the Fruit of the Loom logo has never had the cornucopia, and that people are simply feeding into one another's misremembering with their honest but incorrect retellings of childhood memories seeing it. Those memories are warped, conflated, or simply false
@Chompy the Beast to add on, I would bet many others like myself noticed the fruit of the loom design as a kid but not as much as an adult. all my undershirts as a kid was fruit of the loom. I remember seeing the logo everyday and being very familiar with the brand, but I've only worn Hanes now since high school.
1 likeWhen you mention the thanksgiving Cornucopia depictions, I have distinct memories of that from elementary school. I personally do not recall the cornucopia design on the fruit of the loom logo, although it looks complete and better with it ngl. But i can easily see how someone as a kid would probably conflate thanksgiving imagery with fruit of the loom logo.
Its one of those things you passively add to your memory so your recollection ofc isn't going to be the accurate. Nobody intentionally memorized it and was tested on it, so limited exposure shouldn't be trusted.
Nobody drew it
1 likeI don't need Google to tell me pikachu has a brown tail and ryachu has a black one i trust my gut cus irs the reason why i am still alive anyone who says there wasnt a cornecooia8. Asl yoursedl5 why am i so selfish lol ? And ignorant to ty he vastness of the mysterious universe we know barely norhinf of .
0 likes@Benjamin Husfelt I'm sorry, but this "trust my gut (even in the face of raw data)", puff-chestedly ignorant bs couldn't be more perfectly encapsulated in this nonsensical, devolving comment lol
1 likechompy you literally said nothing. Not one thing of coherance.
0 likesi know pickachu has a brown tail for a fact based off of my memory and hey guess what i am right.so you said nothing. You hinder this species
0 likes@Benjamin Husfelt Are you drunk, or just very young? lol
0 likes@Chompy the Beast nah I remembered it before I heard about people thinking about it I remember being in target and thinking it was a horn or something
0 likes@Wizard Lizard I would refer you to my previous comments. You may well have seen a cornucopia at Target, but it wasn't the Fruit of the Loom logo
0 likes@Chompy the Beast nah bro idk wuts going on but there was a cornucopia on the logo
0 likes@Wizard Lizard The truth is, your memory is a lot like your skeleton: The cells that comprise it die and are replaced over time, and your memory, like your skeleton, is simply not made of the same hardware as it was a decade or so ago. That's something you'll be forced to reckon with more and more as you age, as are we all, haha.
0 likesMemory is not a perfect recreation of the past, nor are old memories even perfect recreations of the first time you remembered them. The movie changes a bit over time, for one reason or another, and often, things get conflated, or shuffled together a bit. The specific explanations for why this happened in the case of the Fruit of the Loom logo I have covered in too many words in previous comments, so I'll spare us all repeating them here.
What, you think some massive underwear brand logo change cover-up is more likely than you just mixing up similar images you used to see a lot more in the past? Or that it's some sort of glitch in the Matrix, but somehow the glitch didn't change people's memories, even though it has supernatural powers otherwise? Of course not. People misremember things all the time, and that's where all the facts are pointing to in this case, no matter how certain anyone without any evidence at all might feel about it otherwise. A strong conviction or belief simply does not always equate to a factual memory
@Chompy the Beast y do many ppl remember the same thing then?
0 likes@Wizard Lizard I already offered my explanation in my reply to @EvanDooood here in this chain, I'd refer you to that comment. But the (slightly) condensed version is:
0 likes1) You haven't seen the Fruit of the Loom logo a ton lately, so it's had time to change in your memory. There's a reason people aren't swearing the McDonald's logo changed, for example: It's always around, we see it a lot.
2) Cornucopia imagery (with fruit and the horn-shaped basket) is very common, even more common than the Fruit of the Loom logo. You also used to see it a lot more in elementary school when you were making finger turkeys and whatnot for Thanksgiving, so again, that's an image baked into your brain from long ago that's had time to blend with other, similar images.
3) Not really an explanation per se, but again, what is the alternative? That ghosts changed things? That it's a conspiracy? Those are obviously less likely explanations. The best explanation is that people are conflating cornucopia imagery with a similar corporate logo because it's been a long time since they've seen it and the two images are so similar. Fairly simple.
These things happen all the time. You'll get a lot of people swearing up and down that they remember seeing this or that, but just like this mysterious alternate Fruit of the Loom logo, there is simply no proof to corroborate the stories.
Final point: If the proof existed, it would be easy to find, and it would have surfaced by now. Old VHS recordings of TV commercials, old archived newspaper ads from the 60s, something would have cropped up by now if the logo had even been used briefly for some sort of promotion. But nothing has, because it seems it never existed. The internet was not scrubbed of all offending Fruit of the Loom logos haha
Anyway, this stuff is fun to think about. Can't trust your senses to be perfect: nobody can. Have a good week!
I would like to add that did in fact die as a boy for 10 mins and came back from encephalitus and those memories are prior to that. But i vaquely remember around the timecmike jordan endoraes hanes underwear that fruit of the loom was sued because the cornecopia was mean to native americans. Just my two cents peace.
0 likesYeah Chompy maybe benjamin buttons disease lol
0 likesIm 32 i dont need google to remind me pickachu had q brown tail and RYACHU had a black tail lol and i still remember trading my charzard to samantha mullen for her jigglypuff lol
0 likes@Chompy the Beast when my sister and I were kids we had a habit of always pronouncing silent letters in words. So knife would be kah-nife, castle would be cass-tull, etc. I know for a fact we would always pronounce dilemma as dilem-nuh because of the silent N. I asked her randomly to list off some of the words we used to pronounce that way without providing any additional context and that was one of the words she mentioned. When I told her it was spelt dilemma she didn't believe me at first and had to look it up because she knows as well as I did we both pronounced it that way SOLELY for the reason that it had a silent N. Turns out there are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people that also remember that silent N. Hearing that a bunch of people believe something is one thing, but having a vivid, enduring memory of something that was brought up in everyday life pretty often hits on a wholly different level.
1 likeYou're free to speak to the fallibility of memory, but when doing so to counter a theory that states that reality itself is changing, don't expect to gain much traction.
I can only buy into the Mandela Effect so much as a whole, but I KNOW that for me dilemma was once spelt dilemna, and the independent confirmation without leading or coaxing from my sister is what really seals it for me. Since then I've encountered many other examples that, just like her, I refused to believe upon initially hearing, and some in which I see no change at all.
Lemon speaks briefly at the start of the video about companies using stylized spellings, and causing problems with people's recollections that way. How then, to explain how so many -- myself included -- remember the restaurant name as chic-fil-a and NOT chick-fil-a?
There are many other examples, but from what I've seen you're less interested in engaging with the topic than with defending Lemon's explanation against any who disagree. Maybe I'm wrong about that, though.
@John R "You're free to speak to the fallibility of memory, but when doing so to counter a theory that states that reality itself is changing, don't expect to gain much traction." What are you implying? Magic?
1 likeI don't need to gain traction against absolute nonsense, nobody does. "Reality is changing" may be a true statement in many senses, but "the past is changing" is not, not in a literal sense anyway. Or if it is, I'd invite you to explain how you think so. Timetravelers meddling with our clothing logos and word-spellings?
Again, there was no conspiracy to rewrite "dilemma". You were just kids back then. It's far more likely you were just being silly, accidentally (or perhaps at one time purposely before you forgot) misspelling a word than it is that the entire world forgot how to spell it and then somehow also destroyed all the evidence that it was ever spelled that way, then somehow forgot that too.
To put this one to bed: "Dilemma" comes to English from Late Latin and is first attested in the 16th century. The Latin actually borrowed it from Ancient Greek δίλημμα (dileemma). The word has been spelled with two m's (or two μ's), therefore, for literally thousands of years. I can assure you, it was not recently changed to drop an n that was never there―This information is freely accessible not only in the modern day online, but I even have an Ancient Greek dictionary printed in the 1920s that includes the word "δίλημμα", and refers to the English word "dilemma". Unless you're a hundred years old, it's very safe to say you and your sister were just being adorable.
So I ask once more, since I feel like you're burying the lede here: If you still aren't satisfied with this explanation, then what are you really implying is happening?
@Chompy the Beast I just told you I don't buy into the Mandela Effect theory, but are you familiar with it beyond this video? It kind of seems you aren't.
1 likeI feel like it wouldn't be fruitful (sorry) to get into the implications of quantum superposition and the act of observation's ability to collapse multiple realities into one solid reality, but seeing as multiverse theory isn't exactly outside of modern mainstream scientific discussion, making a comparison to magic seems rather disingenuous and dismissive.
Trying to show faulty memory by resorting to etymological roots shows either a basic misunderstanding of the tenets of the Mandela Effect as commonly given, or an unwillingness to engage with the theory on any serious level.
There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Chompy, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
@John R What? You think etymology and literal physical records are a greater intellectual reach than quantum mechanics and merging multiverses somehow literally changing the past just to alter a silly word's spelling? You think quantum physics can change not only human memory, but every single copy of every single book ever written for thousands of years?
2 likesI cannot say I've ever heard of a physical model of quantum mechanics that describes anything like that. Even the most superstitious person would find that sort of miracle-working suspicious, I'd imagine―and if you can find me a single quantum physicist who thinks it's more likely that multiverses and quantum mechanics changed the spelling of "dilemma" than it is that you and your young sister were just being boneheads like kids do, then I'll gladly hear them out. Hell if you can explain it to me without being nebulous and hand-wavy with that "anything is possible" stuff, I'd even listen to that. But I seriously doubt there is any hard science for you to point to.
I mean, what―are you saying quantum physics changed everything, but left you and your sister's memory intact? Why are you the Chosen Ones in this narrative, and why were billions of books over thousands of years and my own memory not able to escape this Men In Black Forget-light quantum tech? Seriously, give me a break.
You can't just take mystical interpretations of the universe and then overlay an incomplete understanding of physics to bring nonsense myth into reality. Frankly, unless you're kidding with me, you seem to be refusing to accept reality and deluding yourself with stories that make the Greek myths seem like incontrovertible science. I can't help you if you're going to make nebulous claims about quantum mechanics while also dismissing very basic studies like etymology, I'm sorry, but frankly that's laughable on the face of it
@Chompy the Beast And that's why I said it wouldn't be fruitful. For the third time, I don't really buy into the Mandela Effect, I'm explaining to you where it comes from because you seem uninformed. Not interested in playing a game of gotcha with you anyways, though, so have a good night.
1 like@John R I am asking you: Please explain how quantum mechanics or Multiverse Theory has anything to do with the Mandela Effect, something more than "Hey, it could happen." Because frankly, it seems this exchange has not been fruitful because even you don't actually believe what you're saying, not because I'm unwilling to listen.
2 likesThe Mandela Effect doesn't come from Quantum Physics, it comes from simple misremembering and/or deliberate attempts to fudge history. Its namesake makes that very clear: Are you suggesting Nelson Mandela was killed, but then came back to life decades later because of some sort of Multiverse Convergence? No fan of the scientific method would ever entertain such an outrageous claim without even a shred of offered evidence.
You're being nebulous because you pulled out "quantum mechanics" as if it was some arcane magic nobody understands that could possibly explain any fantastical concept that pops into our fallible minds. You might as well have referred to the Gods themselves, for all your data. But neither they nor quantum mechanics have anything to do with the Mandela Effect.
Again, please explain in any way how they are actually connected. Otherwise, don't blame me for your unwillingness to explain yourself
This guy really said "me and my sister used to misspell a word with a silent / reduplicated letter in a game when we were young and that's proof quantum mechanics and/or the multiverse changed the past", questioned my grasp on the situation, refused to explain any further, then peaced out. I hardly even know what to say, haha.
2 likesI'm glad, because all these colorful objections to my point really drive it home: People need to accept that it's more likely that they made a mistake than it is that the entire universe around them changed (but left the memory intact in them uniquely, for some reason). This is some wildly self-centered ideology that seems to completely reject the inherently corporeal nature of everything that is the human mind. It's mystical nonsense, and draping it with poorly-understood science doesn't make it any more logical
Your mind has updated your memories to remember that exact picture because you just saw it. Memory is unreliable, especially over decades.
1 like@MysteryManTK Yes, but it's also just a stock image. It's not from the logo. It's available to use from a stock image site.
0 likes@John R Aww! Sweet Schizo thread.
0 likesWhoever made that virtual image of the fruits with the cornucopia is the person who controls reality and has the capacity to erase human memory on a mass scale. We'll never be able to accurately figure out who did it
0 likes@Tube Guy Slowly over time I've come to accept the possibility (not reality) that cornucopias were items that were very popular in the 80's and 90's... you'd see them in a lot of thanksgiving-related images.. and Fruit of the Loom is the only widespread logo in the world with a collection of fruit (plus, older variations of the logo had large brown leaves on the logo which we also could have short-circuited to be a cornucopia). so our mind automatically pairs it with cornucopia's.. but it's such a damn mystery... I think the human mind plays this trick because the cornoopia is such a strange, unconventional and rare item to see - so it's difficult to remember where we first saw it, since it's shown so rarely in images that we automatically pair it with a well known corporate logo.
0 likes@Joemus ok James
0 likesThats what they want you to think.
0 likesFor everyone saying that's definitely exactly how it looked because they remember all the detail... pick another logo that you've come across roughly as much as the FOTL one (or even a logo you see regularly!) and see how accurately you can draw it from memory, without looking at it again beforehand. There's no way you get most the detail right unless you've specifically tried to memorise it all previously. I doubt you could even say where all the fruit are in the FOTL logo without looking again
0 likes@Sam Browne that's beside the point. It's not about recognizing where every individual piece of fruit is, it's about knowing that the logo was a bunch of fruit in a cornucopia.
0 likesI like many others think I remember the cornucopia, so this one is just really interesting.
1 likeI was thinking about how much I used to color with my grandma when I was a kid. Cornucopias were very common in those books, especially holiday themed ones. I wonder how much my own coloring could have conflicted with my memory of this logo I didn't pay much attention to. Just a theory I haven't seen anyone touch on before!
As someone who grew up in the 90's, I remember the logo having the cornucopia. It wasn't until I watched this video that I became aware that it wasn't there. Strange that entire swaths of the population can misremember something the same way, makes you wonder what else we don't remember correctly.
1 likeTo me it kinda looks like a set piece that people might have had for decorations. I’m sure I’ve seen something similar at my grandmas old house. But for me while it does seem vaguely familiar, as soon as you showed the initial difference I instantly could tell the one with cornucopia wasn’t right. I don’t think it would be far off to say that people have just been adding it cuz it’s definitely what I think of when I see a pile of fruit
1 likeI have no idea how to word it, but there's a phenomenon where some people can't picture objects or locations in their heads. Would be interesting to see more about that. Seems related to the Mandela Effect.
3 likesThe strangest thing to me is that the drawing is EXACTLY what it looked like. It’s not like I remember a cornucopia, but the drawing isn’t how I pictured it. The cornucopia is drawn COMPLETELY the same.
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Memories are just filling in the blanks, and if your filling in a missing piece of art, naturally it would be drawn in the same style as the rest of the logo.
76 likes@Crumbsly alright mr memory man explain how I distinctly remember asking my mom what the cornucopia was when I was a kid
99 likes@Akantares Combining two memories. Its not that you didn't ask about the cornucopia, but you saw it someplace else. Probably around thanksgiving when cornucopias are everywhere. Then sometime after you connected the cornucopia with the fruit of the loom, your brain merged those memories.
62 likes@Crumbsly If our memories are that unreliable then idk even know what to believe in anymore.
16 likes@The Saint Laurent Don it’s not that it’s unreliable it’s just been optimised through millions of years of evolutionary programming to min-max certain traits to ensure you manage to survive long enough to reproduce offspring. Remembering the logo on your underwear probably isn’t going to help you in that sense.
45 likesif anything, that is proof that it never existed. If there was no real cornucopia, then it would be easier to trick your brain into thinking it was one particular drawing of one. This kind of memory manipulation has been documented and tested over and over again
11 likes@Humphrey Appleby yes, and my younger brother does too. I asked him to describe the fruit of the loom logo and first thing he said was “well there was this horn or something”
11 likes@Crumbsly yet I have the same memory and I don't live in the US and have never seen one irl.
6 likes@NinjaCell
6 likesAgain I reiterate, your memory can and will change after the fact. You probably only think you remember a cornucopia after making an association with it some place later. There is also potential that your image was blury to begin with and after seeing the fake cornucopia version of the logo you made that your baseline in your memory. Cornucopia's are also not exclusive to America, they came from Ancient Greece and are fairly common in most European histories at some point.
If you want proof your memories will change, keep a diary of your exact thoughts on matters of life. When you look back after a long time, your outlook on things will be completely different and even your memory of how you felt or thought at the time is in opposition to what's written in the book.
@Crumbsly I literally have only remember the object in association with that, cornucopias are not seen over here at all. Not everyone is delving into European history for ancient Greek fruit holders.
3 likesThe combining memory thing is just too simple
@NinjaCell
2 likesThe fact it's simple is what makes it make sense. If you had a vague memory of a fruit logo as a kid, you wouldn't question the inclusion of a cornucopia every else swears they remember and just like that your memory changed. How long was the last time you saw the logo before the Mandela effect brought it up and how often did you ever think about the logo? If your memory is that old and irrelevant its completely easy to add details and then cement it in your brain as fact. And even if your from another nation outside the US its entirely possible you saw it in a piece of media, art, video game, movie or literally anything America related as Thanksgiving is one of our biggest cultural celebrations and US influence on the web is huge.
Also I say again if you have ever taken a journal you will find you add and subtract details from memories constantly, and even your very headspace is completely different from how you remember even just a few months later. Now in regards to a memory of a logo you first saw as a kid and never gave any regard to for your entire life, there is a lot that would be fallible to change even in a single instant many years after the fact.
@Crumbsly I was literally not aware that it was a Thanksgiving thing until this video. I wasn't even aware people actually owned them.
4 likesThe everyone else remembering the cornucopia is the best explanation. I don't have any other memories of them, and I've certainly never seen one irl
Yup!!! You are absolutely correct!!!
0 likes@Eric Lee I was wondering the exact same thing - I didn't get "what the hey" the guy was saying at all !
0 likesSo...grammar and punctuation both MATTER. Stay in school, kids; it'll help you express yourselves better in the future!! ;-)
IT IS THE EXACT SAME AS I REMEMBER
1 likeIt doesn't look how I remember it
0 likes@Crumbsly no no that's not like that, first time this fruit of the loom thing has been brought up to me, somebody asked me to tell them what the logo was, so I recalled from memory before the "wrong" one was shown to me... And they were identical.
1 likeThat's the strange part to me, it wasn't my brain filling information with what I saw after, but that cornucopia looks exactly how I remembered it before it was shown to me.
I remember using the logo as a reference to draw something for thanksgiving when I was a kid
0 likesThe only places I remember seeing a cornucopia ANYWHERE is on the Fruit of the Loom logo and around Thanksgiving..so strange🤔🤔
2 likesCouple of years late on this but I always remember that basket in the background too, and also remember it being called "the loom". Interestingly, the state I am from, NC has a cornucopia with fruit and even grapes in it right on its state seal. Something I definitely would have seen growing up when I frequently wore fruit of the loom clothing as an elementary student. Not sure how it would affect people living in other states, but it is a strange coincidence nonetheless.
0 likesI don't remember the fruit of the loom logo on the packaging or underwear having a cornucopia on it but the image of the logo is very familiar which makes me think maybe Walmart had signs with the logo up with the cornucopia added by whatever minimum wage worker they had make the sign and all the Walmarts used the same sign so everyone who went to buy fruit of the loom would see it but it was never an official logo
3 likes10:47 is the answer. Most of my fruit of the loom tags had the top cut off like that. It was easy to imagine the cornucopia was there, just hidden.
2 likesWell, this is obviously just a coverup by Big Cornucopia.
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Nelson Mandela has informed me that Big Pharma actually wants to cover it up, cornucopias hurt their image of the GMO crop world
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0 likesnice
Should have said corpucopia
6 likesSo weird. I remember a cornucopia. Now knowing fruit of the loom never had one I figured it had to be another brand with a cornucopia logo and other some other items closely matching what we see in fruit of the loom. I found a couple instances of this online, but I had never heard of these companies before so I wouldn't be remembering it from them
2 likesWell, that was certainly intriguing! Who the hell would've thought our old childhood tighty-whities would end up proving the existence of a parallel universe as we matured (or, in my case, completely failed to mature) into adulthood?
4 likesI've had two instances where a word seemingly vanished from my vocabulary, dare I say vanished from existence. One was a word equivalent to: amateur, but it was stronger, and more Significant. The other was equivalent to: psychology or psychological, but less strong, and more casual. I understand having that "I swear I remember this, but I can't find evidence of it" feeling. It sucks big time, as I was about to use the words on a paper I was writing when I forgot them. Fun stuff for discussion, not so fun when you're trying to write a witty paper.
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It’s like when I was a kid I recall “no one” being one word but spelled differently
0 likesThe first word could be novice or newbie
1 like@gumpy4699 thats probably just because of the words "nowhere" and "nobody"
1 likeI haven’t owned that much Fruit of the Loom wear in my life but I live in Texas and I do half-remember tracing/drawing/coloring cornucopias around Thanksgiving as part of the festivities when I was in elementary. I think maybe the actual act of drawing or coloring something so distinctively similar to something so common as a brand logo a kid would own is a pretty good correlation and would explain the mixup for the most part (for America, I mean).
0 likesI blame elementary school Thanksgiving decorations and books. I've seen more cornucopias in my time in elementary school than I have in the other 16 years of my life
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yeah, like every crappy, blurry printout that's been rescanned and reprinted 8 times, always has a cornucopia around now
30 likeslet me get my crayons and color in my fruit and cornacopia
8 likesCornucopias seemed like a pretty big deal at one point
7 likesI blame reddit for you existing in your current form
1 like@JordanScottMills I blame reddit for becoming a cesspool
2 likes@JoshFloor Thanks for the confirmation
0 likes@VanillaAbstract i swear to god during fall in pre-k to 2nd grade teachers would always be telling us about cornucopias and i have absolutely no idea why they would teach us about them so much
2 likes@ItsCorvid Same even though I'm canadian and it's considered an american "tradition." None of my american friends ever had one in their house though. People have fruit bowls or candy in a dish, nobody has cornucopias. There's like 4 old ladies in the world who have fake ones and that's it.
1 likeThis company saved my buttox from the suffering of cotton underware. Fruit of the Loom is the best company that has ever existed.
0 likesI used to love the fruit of the loom logo when I was a kid. I remember it without a cornucopia, and I think it looks weird and different when you add it in.
0 likesI feel like it has something to do with Christmas and Thanksgiving, at least here in the US. In the 90s and 00s most people watched television with a multitude of commercials, there was no ad blocker or ad free subscription tier.
0 likesCornucopias were abundant on television during November, Macys day parade, thanksgiving football games, movies, all featured cornucopias.
Now pair that with almost every kids (and Adults) worst Christmas present, underwear. Fruit of the loom titie whities were in every kids drawer and dad’s drawer. Socks, undershirt, tanks, and of course underwear. Is it so hard to believe that we started associating the logo with other similar images during the holiday season?
I believe there has to be a correlation, it also falls inline with occams razor theory.
I love how even the Fruit of the Loom people think it was a thing, lol.
5 likesdude I remember so clearly looking on the logo off it and wondering what that brown thing is, this is insanely hard to believe
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@Quantum Puddles Lol
24 likesSame
5 likessAme.
6 likesMandela effect does not affect everyone which is why a consensus will never be attained, on one side you have people who remember things differently and know for a fact their memory isn't false, on the other side you have non-affected people calling us crazy because they just aren't affected so they don't have the same memory.
38 likesThese logo's and random things changing are just scraping the surface tho, for me i spent 20 years of my life on one version of earth, and the last 3 on a totally different one. Still don't know why it changed tho, and impossible that it's just false memories, literally impossible, especially since most of my family remembers the same earth i do. Not all tho, which is why it's so difficult for the unaffected people to understand what we're going trough.
@BxPanda7 give me some examples what things have changed for you?
36 likes@BxPanda7 .
0 likes@T L .
0 likes@Quantum Puddles Why would you say something so hilarious.
1 like@Hedged-Valley south america became south-east america completely distorting central america, north pole used to be a solid land mass like south pole, whole earth is smaller no idea by how much, Australia used to be MUCH further away from Indonesia and didn't have a square indentation on it's northern side, Sicily was further away from Italy, Finland had allot less water bodies, Japan was further east and Russia gained allot of random land masses.
26 likesAlso a random flying saucer shaped Temple that looks like a CPU from the top appeared near Bangkok and is supposedly a big worship site, didn't exist when i was there a couple years ago, would have deffo visited that instead of the boring ass temples i did see
The Union Jack used to be symmetrical.
The shape of our liver changed TWICE, first it became thin and elongated, then after a few days it changed again, reverting almost to it's initial state just now it looks like it's made up of 2 different parts.
In the YMCA music video there's a 6th dude that wasn't there (military costume) and they no longer do the YMCA dance with their arms.
Those are all 100% without the shadow of a doubt real mandela effects that couldn't possibly be me just misremembering stuff, especially the position of south america, every time i see a map it still hits me like a brick to the face because of how big of a change it is.
I wish i knew why or how this could happen, but as much as i researched it, there is no rational explanation for it except for the multiverse theory, everything else is crazy conspiracy theories with no evidence whatsoever, and even if it is indeed because of a multiverse, it still doesn't explain why things would change in the first place, and why only for some people and not everyone.
The only thing i know for certain is that it's not just bad memory, that would be even more insane because of how many people report the exact same memories, we'd have to all be insane in just the exact same way for that to happen, and that makes no sense.
Damn i get recommended of madela effect videos every now and then and i get recommended to you in the mean time and find you in comments of random videos...
2 likesHe does mention the leaves used to be brown.
3 likesDoing dues and glitches on pay to win servers to get mandellarized
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@BxPanda7 just....... Statistically.... What do you think is more likely? That you literally hopped into a different timeline or that you just misremembered something
57 likesI 100% remember being in the Commissary on Fort Benning, seeing the Fruit of the Loom logo and asking my parents what the brown thing was
2 likesI somehow remember seeing the cornucopia shape but I also remember just thr fruit. Weird.
3 likes@BxPanda7 union Jack was asymmetrical since I could remember learning it, in 1998 when I had a British Flag shirt in middle school. I worked with my mom at a British supermarket and tearoom, so I learned alot about it before I was old. I remember memorizing which direction the fat stripes and thin stripes were supposed to face in the big X.
9 likes@Komið Most of my close family remembers the same things... Did we all just suddenly start misremembering the exact same things for no reason ?
3 likesStatistically, that's extremely unlikely, so yes, it's much more likely that something weird that we don't yet understand happened. Also me and my family/close friends are not the only people who seem to be affected by those mandela effects, there are people all around the world with the exact same memories, so again, statistically speaking, misremembering is the least likely option.
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0 likes@BxPanda7 Your memories are false.
31 likesHumans are social creatures controlled by flawed pink meat things. These pink meat things are really bad at remembering and due to us being social creatures we often trust those (and adopt) the memories of our friends/family. It only takes one of you to have a blurry memory that you then fill in the gaps on, to then spread this idea convincingly towards your family and they will also agree and adopt those same memories.
For example if I asked you "What shape is the earth?". You would reply sphere (hopefully) because you trust and adopt the memories and ideas of people you know, you wouldn't do 10,000 calculations on the spot to determine the shape of the earth all you would do is remember it.
and do you wanna know how easy making false memories is? Well here we go. Two weeks ago on a Tuesday you were eating cereal for breakfast but the milk you got was tasting a bit funny, so you checked the date but it was still before its best by so you kept eating. If you were paying attention you would have made a false memory in your brain about that scenario playing out, all you need now is to be convinced that that memory is true to then spread it along to your family members if you so choose.
obviously this as worked all on a hypothetical because I know nothing about your situation but I do know that you are human and humans have terrible memory, so I am very certain that the possibility that you have false memories is immeasurably higher than the chance of parallel universes or whatever.
Because if your memory is good enough for you to be sure that none of them are false then it should be easy to tell me how many times you took a breath during the day 2014/06/09, and because I know you cant do that you obviously don't have a good enough memory to be above false ones.
@BxPanda7 that's insane.. thanks for telling, really compelling stuff
2 likes@BxPanda7 if you genuinely think it's more likely that you were snapped into a different universe/timeline than it is that you and your family just misremembered stuff then idk what to tell you, sis.
27 likes@Eilocke Looked it up right after the comment, you’re right. wonder how many other people confused them?
2 likes@Komið So you think thousands of unrelated people from all around the world suddenly claiming the same thing is just people misremembering stuff ?
3 likesHow does that even remotely make sense ?
Not to mention i remember these things perfectly well and clearly, so misremembering stuff makes absolutely no sense and is not a more rational explanation at all.
The only valid theory is that there are still things we just don't understand about our universe and that some things we >>>assume<<< are impossible, are indeed possible.
@BxPanda7 yep that's definitely the only valid theory that makes sense
25 likes@Komið From my perspective, yes.
1 likeI am subbed to your channel.
0 likes@Pan-Athens So one day i wake up with totally random but very clear memories of a totally different world, something i actually pay attention to regularly, and when i ask the people around me i get many telling me they remember the exact same thing, then go search on internet and find multiple threads about people saying the exact same thing, but i'm supposed to believe i just randomly have a case of bad memory ?
1 likeThat makes absolutely no sense.
What other memories of a “different earth” do you have?
3 likes@BxPanda7 The South America one is the only one I really noticed. I was so sure that South America was much much more straight down below N America rather than being skewed to one side. But I'm assuming it's just due to faulty memory and crude drawings of maps and just getting the 'general impression' that S America is underneath central and North America on a map. I really do think these are memory distortions and it's only recently people have been able to share the common memory distortions with each other through social media etc.
12 likes@BxPanda7 As this video explains, we misremember this stuff in the same way for the same reasons. Like people misremembering 'stain' as 'stein' due to that being a more common name, or 'froot' as 'fruit' because we all normally spell it 'fruit' etc.
7 likes@BxPanda7 I’d say anyone who’s experienced some form of Mandela Effect or deja vu look into Quantum Suicide Theory, hard to explain here but that’s the only way I can reconcile some of the more minute Mandela Effect stuff.
1 like@BxPanda7 you might just be crazy
4 likes@Tessalator Basically what you're saying is the same mandela effect happened to you too but because your knowledge of the map wasn't very clear you are capable of chalking it up to bad memory, you're not the first person to tell me that, problem for me is i have the world map literally on my wall over my bed, i see it everyday and have the image burned into my mind, so when it changed i could instantly tell it did since the map over my bed changed from one day to the next, can't possibly be crude drawings or faulty memory, and the north pole being absent from the map is also a very obvious change, i used to think that the world was a sandwich with the buns being made of ice when looking at globes, that's gone now.
1 likeAnd also no one is mentioning the thing about the liver, because as i said, it changed TWICE while i was reseaching the mandela effect, that cannot possibly be false memories, it's literally impossible, completely outside of the realm of possibilities, and both times i was with another person who saw the changes just like i did, so being randomly insane for just that and literally nothing else in my life is also a ridiculous idea.
There's only one logical conclusion i came possibly come to, and it's that the universe can be strange and do weird things, i don't know why or how, but i'm sure one day we will figure it out and have a rational scientific explanation to this phenomenon, because telling thousands of people who have the same exact memories that they're just randomly making up false memories is not rational in any way shape or form, but merely people trying to be rational and going for whatever doesn't go against their pre-conceived beliefs about reality.
@BxPanda7 The north pole is solid. The soviets put a statue of lenin there. Its often left out of maps because its ice and not land. And for some reason they include the ice around antarctica. But if you look on google earth the top and bottom of the world are covered in ice.
5 likesAnd about south america, how could an entire continent move without causing any change other than on the map. The connection to north america would have to change which would end up changing the borders of nations and the outcomes of wars, etc. as geography plays a big part in conflicts. That would seriously affect the way the world is. If you were hopping between universes you would not just notice a few small changes, the name and history of the country you're in could possibly change, due to the butterfly effect of having a different shaped continent. It makes sense that people would think north and south america are on top of eachother, but reality doesnt conform to our preconceptions.
@Ruthacury The north pole was a continent, and was illustrated on every single modern map. That's the problem.
1 likeAnd no, continents didn't move around on the face of the earth, that is nonsense, and again, no, apart from the geography literally nothing changed in my life that's the most mind blowing thing about it, there is no butterfly effect with the mandela effect, everything is exactly the same with only some things randomly changing for no apparent reason, it's sort of like when Rick and Morty accidentally destroy the earth and go to a parallel universe where they didn't destroy the planet, randomly die in their garage and everything else is the exact same, basically, there could be an infinite amount of parallel earth's to chose from, meaning there are many different one's where the history of the earth is exactly the same with only a few unnoticeable details changing.
And if quantum physics applies at our scale, then that's probably exactly what it is, given that every single possibility should be accounted for.
@BxPanda7 You can't just dismiss the butterfly effect. It is simply not possible for the position of an entire continent to have been different and not change history. The world is incredibly interconnected. You can't just change one or two things and everything else stays the same.
8 likesAlso if there really were another continent you would remember something about it. The name, the history, which country owns it, etc. But you can't, because its just an endless stretch of worthless floating ice as it always has been.
When I was a small child I thought the Spanish Inquisition was in Italy, even though I knew where Spain and Italy were, and that it was called the Spanish Inquisition. But I associated the church with Rome and Italy and so I thought the Spanish Inquisition must have been there. Human memory is a fragile thing.
If you think of the origin of the Mandela effect, some people thinking that Mandela died in prison, while he actually didn't and went on to be president. Wouldn't the people of South Africa have noticed this change? One very convenient thing about the Mandela effect is that it always happens to something that you're not too familiar with, or something at the back of your mind. Which is what you would expect if it was just caused by failing memories.
@Ruthacury Agreed, i can't just dismiss the butterfly effect, logically you are right it should have consequences on our history, and maybe it did, but in a way that i wouldn't be able to notice, that's entirely possible, best answer i can give to that is i just don't know.
1 likeAntarctica is technically still considered a continent, just like the Arctic, so it's not like there one less continent on the map, it's just that it was much bigger and much more solid than what we have now, and was on every single globe/map, now there isn't even enough space up there to have the Antarctic like it used to be.
You associating the Spanish inquisition with Italy has absolutely nothing to do with false memories, and has even less to do with the world map changing from one day to the other.
And finally, this IS something i was and still am EXTREMELY familiar with, that's why it cannot possibly be a false memory, i know the map very well and as i said before, have a map of the world literally on the wall behind my bed, i see it everyday and have seen it everyday for many years now.
And this also still doesn't explain how our liver could change TWICE while i was in the process of researching the mandela effect, it literally switched on me while i was paying very close attention to it, so again how is that possibly a false memory ???
@BxPanda7 It's clear we're never going to agree on this. I didn't bring up your perceived change in the shape of the liver because that's a really subjective thing that I can't really speak on without more evidence. imo something that cannot be proven and that isn't logically consistent is not even worth considering. So anyway, nice to speak to someone that does believe in the Mandela effect. Even though I don't, it's nice to see some other perspectives on the world.
6 likes@Ruthacury I don't believe in the mandela effect, i know it's legit for a fact as i went trough it, and i hate it, it's the most annoying thing ever because not only does it make me look like a crazy person to the vast majority of people, but there's also literally no way to physically prove it, either it happens to you too, or you'll never know for sure that it's legit, it's so stupid.
1 likeAnd i can't even fault anyone for choosing not to believe in it, because if it didn't happen to me, i don't think i would believe it either, it just sounds so ridiculous and goes against everything i thought i knew about the universe, almost like we're really living in a simulation and it glitched or something, idk, but it annoys me that people are so wrong about it yet think they found the right answer, it's just not right and we aren't learning the right thing because of it.
Especially since this could easily be proof for the multiverse theory (or something similar) if only we could find a way to prove it scientifically, it's such a wasted opportunity and feels like a big step back instead of the huge leap forward it should be.
@BxPanda7 I feel it could be proven scientifically. Anything that has a physical effect, even if only in people's heads, can be tested.
3 likesSay for example you select a few facts about the world and quiz a known group of people every day for a long while and see if, don't record down the information but have the researcher memorise it and see if peoples answers change over time. If say half the people are "Mandela effect"ed into another universe you would notice. Also I think you mentioned your family went through a similar thing, so you could have groups of families or people living in close contact instead. And then just let the study run and watch for sudden changes in memory of certain people, (people getting switched with others from alternate realities in this case).
Obviously disqualify people if they get too old and start suffering from dementia or some memory affecting illness. And the study would probably have to be on a very large scale with multiple groups of researchers to maximise the portion of the population tested. But it is definitely testable.
However I doubt it would find much, but that's just my belief, you're free to differ obviously.
@BxPanda7 lol just start doing memory exercises buddy. You clearly misremembered stuff. It happens to all of us and it’s always a shocker. But just because YOU, a tiny speck in this universe, perceived something as something else does not make it true.
8 likes@BxPanda7 there's a possiblity that the map you used to use used a different projection than the one that is popular today. Depending on what world map you look that, things can look bigger/smaller, further/closer and even different shaped. This effect is amplified the further north/South the countries are. Worth noting that there is no "more accurate" version of any flat world map, each projection will prioritize keeping one or two things the same and distort another. It's impossible to flatten something spherical without cutting it and deforming it, only truly accurate world map would be something like Google earth or a globe.
8 likes@BxPanda7 What the hell are you on about? South America is right where it’s always been. Connected by Panama.
4 likesYou don't remember anything clearly. Your own perceptions are edited by your brain before you even become aware of them, let alone recall them later.
2 likes@BxPanda7 cap
3 likes@BxPanda7 Commenting so I can follow this thread, but also you seem really sure about this, and perhaps it's plausible - life and the universe is inconceivably strange, and it's impossible to know everything. We've been very wrong before.
3 likesBut at this stage, as uneducated about this subject as I am, I have to side with the most likely scenario.
But perhaps someone will prove you right someday. :)
@BxPanda7 Unless they have proof to back them up, do not believe them. ANYONE, CAN SAY ANYTHING.
3 likesSame here bro
0 likes@BxPanda7 Finland doesn't even exist
2 likes@BxPanda7 I was originally kind of on your side but as you went on you just kept getting more and more pretentious. It is amazing to me that you, as someone who is "EXTREMELY familiar with" the map seems to think at one point the North Pole was on a continent. Literally Google "where is the North Pole" and look at the FIRST picture that comes up. That is a clear representation of the Northern ice cap which has NEVER been a continent. We have had 7 continents my entire life. No more. No less. I in no way believe this is a product of parallel universes. As the great philosopher Robin Williams once said "The problem is, God gave man a brain and a penis and only enough blood to run one at a time". This would probably go a lot farther in explaining why you got a little confused with your ceiling map.
2 likes@Ceramic Bowl I never thought I'd be so throughly lectured about the human memory and the mandela effect by a ceramic bowl..
1 likeOn a serious note though, there are memories that are easier than others to forget and some people do have better cognitive capacities than others.
Some of that guys aclamations do intrigue me a bit. He said he went to Bangkok in a place where there was a huge monument and nobody in his family remembered seing it, its possible that the monument just looks more distinct in the photos he saw it in after than from ground position where he was with his family, so they just didnt notice it and later were baffled aboit there being such monument... But its weird.
The human liver one is really weird as well. How can your idea of a basic organ change so much in your lifetime?
Maybe it's possible that our consciousness can for some reason move to a different version of ourselves in a proximate paralel universe, that features small differences from ours but not enough as to be completely different from our reality. That takes into consideration the idea in the multi-parallel universe theory that the more distant a universe is from another the more different they are and that there are infinite possibilities within. There may be universes that are so simmilar that the only difference between them is a slight difference in the position of a one single atom in the whole universe, and universes so distinct from one another that the whole inner workings of physics in them wouldnt allow for the same type of life forms to exist.
@Anonymous User bro it's possible that as a kid you just thought it was a gameboy because that was the only thing you knew and didnt question it any further, so in your memory it was a gameboy, but then, as a more observant and/or knowlegeable adult you realized that it wasnt.
1 like@Neko Saiyajin It is not at all possible for your consciousness to connect to a version of you in a parallel universe. There are so many assumptions and illogical thoughts needed to get close to there being even a smidge of a chance of parallel universes, and being connected to them.
0 likesFirst assumption is consciousness: Consciousness (I'm getting tired of writing this word) is just electricity running through your brain. It is nothing more. It is really hard to wrap your head around consciousness (pun intended) because it doesn't correlate with any intuition that we have. I could get way into the nitty gritty about consciousness and try to explain it a little but I have other points to move onto.
Main point is that consciousness isn't significant it is just complex software.
Second assumption is parallel universes: They don't exist! sorry! There is the exact same chance of a parallel universe existing as finding out that Shrek created the universe. And that isn't an exaggeration. It is literally impossible to research anything outside of our universe, making everything outside of it purely sceptical and therefore all ideas have the same infinitesimally small chance of being right.
And final paragraph to encapsulate the rest of my ramblings. Why would our consciousness interact with other versions of ourselves from different universes, that would be information travelling at far over the speed of light (impossible) also how would information travel between universes? Is there some kind of information highway that connects them all? Why are memories the only things being shared between universes, why not literally anything else, why are humans so special?
Spoiler alert: It's because humans made up this fictional scenario, and we like being the centre of attention.
Now. Call me crazy. But I think. Just maybe. That we are imperfect creatures, and our memories kinda suck.
@Ceramic Bowl i also think we are imperfect creatures, but I think you give answers with too much certainty about things that nobody knows. How can you be so sure we dont have souls, how do you know there arent parallel universes or that it is impossible to obtain telepathic powers? You cant be so sure, the non-existance of proof isnt proof for non-existance. The most logical way is to ponder and take every possibility into consideration, until proven wrong.
1 likeSame bro. I just found this one out and I’m tripping tf out
0 likes@Quantum Puddles Oh for a sec I thought that was an insult, as in you were calling them a shit stain out of internet salt, but a sec later I got it lol
0 likes@BxPanda7 It seems like you are lying but good lord is that specific
0 likes@The Horizon I don't blame anyone for thinking that anymore, to be fair I probably wouldn't believe me either if I was someone else, it's the rational thing to do.
0 likes@BxPanda7 do you know what this scenario is called? Might be something interesting to research at 3am 🤣
0 likesWhen I was reading Hunger Games and the cornucopia was mentioned I imagined it just like the one on Fruit of the Loom, because that was the only reference for cornucopia that I had.
1 likeI'm from Eastern-Europe and I remember the cornucopia aswell. I've learned what a basket of plenty was thanks to the logo. Seeing the Fruit of the Loom logo on only the cheapest, worst quality T-shirts, I'm pretty sure now it's an off brand thing.
2 likesI remember being surprised the first time I actually saw clothing with the logo on it and it didn't have a cornucopia, but I have no memory whatosever of actually seeing it on anything in person.
0 likesthis may be the answer to the problem, because it means that my impression of the logo came from casual exposure to media and not the brand itself, and as you noted, the logo had been parodied with a cornucopia as early as the '70s, which predates me.
A loom is a piece of textile manufacturing equipment.
0 likesFruit of the loom should have been 2 oranges & a banana but I guess an apple & grapes fit the bill as well.
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The Mandela Effect is an elaborate publicity stunt to advertise The Twilight Zone reboot.
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You know to much
168 likes@ꓘ〣K
73 likesSome of the episodes are good but people get too nostalgic.
And here I thought it was a Zelda boss.
26 likes@ꓘ〣K The original was awsome and well made with dedication
31 likesno its increasing awareness of nelson mandela
8 likesI really think the cornucopia was a real deal and I’m 15 and remember it
12 likesI could see EmpLemon making a good Twilight Zone show
9 likesLook into the sources for why it's called the Mandela effect. You will lose your mind.
5 likes@James McComb lol how does it blow anyones mind
4 likes@rilla fy All I remember is something about spiders and the Mandela effect being a Mandela effect, or something along those lines. The rabbit hole goes deep and it's been years since I've looked into it.
1 like@James McComb hmm ill try lookingninto it
0 likesThe one with Forest Whitaker?
0 likesFBI: "Stay right where you are"
0 likesor as a brazilian "goku was about to SSJ3 when 9/11 happenned and interrupted the episode lol"
4 likesNo not for a movie that bad
0 likesOr was it? 🤔
0 likesI liked the episode with Leonard Nimoy
1 likeWe are investing in this meme:https://youtu.be/25l96_-5PZI
0 likesI live in Ohio so I'm always in The Twilight Zone.
1 likeNo you misremembered it dude.
0 likesit isn’t an “extraneous” object, fruit laid out with a cornucopias are incredibly common (we’ve seeen theme shit tons as kids on grade school for thanksgiving activities)
0 likesWhy
0 likesI think it’s legit people are dumb
0 likesHave you seen this man?
1 likeI read this comment before watching the video and I swear it said fruit of the loom instead of Mandela effect...
0 likesX-Files Theme Music Plays
1 likeThe what :I
0 likesLet me know when they remake The Outer Limits.
0 likesLoved that intro so f**king much.
@Rush B take him out
0 likesVery elaborate
0 likes3:55 wordcount.org ranks the term cornucopia around the 42,000th most common word in the English language
0 likesTwilight Zone reboot sucks ass
1 likeNON PLAYER CHARACTER COMMENT
0 likes@Mackey bianor
0 likesIt's not the twilight zone it's just the zone
1 likeI think you’re falsely remembering. The twilight zone hasn’t aired yet.
0 likesThe strangest part about this is that I remember a whole commercial vividly with the cornucopia in the commercial. I learned what a cornucopia was because of fruit of the loom, my teachers mentioned "like fruit of the loom"
0 likesI remember seeing it as I played inside of the clothing racks at Walmart as a kid. These type of things are unsettling
0 likesI remember when I was little, we had a fridge magnet with my sister's name on it, as well as a brightly colored image of a cornucopia full of fruits and vegetables. I think this is probably what I'm mixing the logo up with, but that doesn't explain why everyone else remembers the same thing. Are cornucopias really a prominent enough icon in American culture to confuse all of us about this one particular thing.
3 likesI don't believe in parallel universes, and I don't have an explanation. All I can say is that this is a wierd phenomenon, and I don't think anyone will ever have an explanation that really clears it up in a satisfying way.
Sure we probably misrembered it, but WHY did we all misremember it? This is what's so unsettling, about the whole thing. All of these people have one specific, wierd, random, false memory and there's no clear explanation behind it. Everyone likes to pretend they're smart and say it's the "mandella effect" it's a "false memory".
No really? You deserve a Nobel Peace Prize for that one, Einstain.
Everyone can see WHAT is happening, what we want to know is WHY it's happening.
Watching this is the first time I can remember seeing, or hearing about a cornucopia. Not as in if it's present on the Fruit of the Loom logo, but the actual object itself. If it would have been there I'd probably have wondered what a hollow turd, or possibly fucked up seashell, did next to some grapes.
0 likesI remember when I heard about the Mandela effect and someone said the cornucopia was part of it and I was like, “what people think the cornucopia isn’t there?” Only to feel horrified that the controversy is that the cornucopia actually apparently never existed. I never felt more freaked out by the Mandela effect.
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It really is one of the most glaring ones.
18 likesBut the Berenstein Bears will always be my #1, because I was an AVID reader of those books and would read them religiously for years growing up. It was never BerenstAin and I will take that to the grave
@Stevie Champagne With the Berenstain Bears thing, I feel like it's something I would have thought was funny as a kid, like "BerenSTAIN Bears? Like berry-stained bears?" And you'd think some people would have pronounced it with "stain" instead of "stein" but I never once knew anyone who said it that way.
14 likesThere are some Mandela Effect things that are bogus though, I remember distinctly as a kid wondering about why Curious George didn't have a tail so I know that's just people misremembering things
The cornucopia scares the fuck outa me
6 likesDude I'd never heard of Berenstain Bears until I read about it as an example of the Mandela Effect, guess how I pronounced it.. No it's not a crazy inconsistency
2 likesThe C3PO one blew my mind. He's entirely gold-colored, right? Look again. Yeah, my mind was blown by that one.
2 likes@Luminous Holy shit! What the hell? I didn't think C3PO had a silver leg. I guess that I could chalk that one up to my having mainly watched the original trilogy on VHS rather than ever upgrading to a DVD set/blu-ray, but I feel like I've never seen merchandise with only one of his legs silver because I'd have been like, "What is this a bootleg version? Why's his leg wrong?"
7 likesA loom is “an apparatus for making fabric by weaving yarn or thread”
0 likesI think that the association with loom and weaving makes us think of a woven basket
What's interesting is it's such a specific and odd item. If it'd been a normal basket I'd just thought it a strange coincidence, but why a cornucopia of all things? I myself never even knew a cornucopia was even a horn shaped basket until watching this; it's such an oddly specific item that so many people are agreeing was there, that it makes me question if there is something to the mandella effect.
0 likesAlso a horn or cylindrical shaped object in an underwear logo makes total sense to me, they should have had bananas in there.
I haven't been exposed to Fruit of the Loom and their logo that much on account of not being American, but I do remember being introduced to the concept of a cornucopia from some similar-looking stock art. I forget where or when this happened though, was it in a schoolbook or kids' encyclopedia, was it in a travel brochure, was it some completely unrelated brand's logo, even? No idea.
0 likesI pretty distinctly remember me being confused why there was fruit and some brown thing in the back at Walmart constantly. Possible but less likely I’ve brought it up to my parents before
0 likesI don’t think I’ve ever looked at the Fruit of the Loom logo before in my life, but honestly I think that the Cornucopia version looks better. Just a more complete image, I don’t know. Maybe opinions like that have something to do with this phenomenon.
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The 'recreation' is way too good. Fits the artstyle so exactly that you feel like it needs to be there. This is not a good thing.
8 likesOne possibility is that as children we all learned about the origins of thanksgiving and the cornucopia. I remember doing a project where I would have to cut out and color fruit, then glue them onto a cornucopia. I guess we're all just so used to seeing it in our childhood that its just the norm.
1 likeBUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY
I remember fruit of the loom having a cornucopia on their shirt logos. As I asked about it and found out it was the loom from my mother and her friend. Later that year I was playing RuneScape when they had an event where you could get one and I thought it was a loom like on my clothing’s logos.
0 likesI specifically remember this, so I think people who are saying it’s not on the logo are taking a piss
I'm pretty sure it has to do with two key, coincidental things from childhood- Firstly, "Fruit of the Loom" has the word "Loom" in it, which despite how simple the word looks, isn't a word that most kids will know from a young age. However, Fruit of the Loom was a widely popular brand that most children were familiar with. Secondly, Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving scenery often depicts fruit inside of a cornucopia. Cornucopias are rarely ever shown outside of Thanksgiving, and the word is fairly long and unwieldy. Thusly, it's easy for a young child to make the assumption that the thing all the fruit is inside of during Thanksgiving is a loom.
0 likesIn fact, it's something I hadn't even pondered until this video- The "Fruit" of the loom is a metaphor for the fabric. At no point had that thought ever remotely crossed my mind as a child. I had always just assumed, as a child, that the underwear was named after fruit because that's just how things were.
This video pokes fun at the "alternative reality" theory, but some very intelligent physicists think this is a very real possibility. The way I've heard it described is that every substantial choice represents two or more distinct realities essentially branching off at each point. Although that wouldn't really explain this effect, unless two realities were merged back together if they were almost completely identical. So even if this was true, probably not the reason for this phenomenon.
0 likesI think it’s possible that the arrangement of the fruit alludes to the existence of a cornucopia. I had never seen the logo before this video, though I’d heard of the brand, and the cornucopia being there just looks *right*. Perhaps there’s some artistic explanation similar to the line of action that alludes to a cornucopia-like shape, and our brains already associate fruit with the cornucopia specifically, allowing for that to take precedence over, say, a bugle.
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Yeah I feel like there’s more to analyze here from an art theory perspective. I also wonder if it has something to do with the sort of rustic art style that alludes to antique items like cornucopias?
58 likesinteresting. thats very much a thing with art, especially in music, a lot of music composition teachers stress the importance of implying things to an audience, forming things around an idea so that you can suggest an idea without ever actually directly presenting it. seems like what youre talking about.
25 likesdoesn't explain how people had memories of learning what a cornucopia is from the fruit of the loom logo though
7 likes@Youtube Pizzer It's very much plausible that people saw an image of some fruit with a cornucopia as a kid, asked "What's that horn-thingy?" and then later misattributed that image to the Fruits of the Loom logo.
45 likesYeah I feel like the whole analysis hinges on the idea that the cornucopia couldn’t just be an easily assumed and implied thing, which IMO it totally is. It honestly doesn’t feel any different to the example given of say a monocle on the monopoly man
19 likes@Blayne Umberger pictures of a bunch of fruits put together almost always have baskets from still natures to justvlooking at the fruit in your own home, if you see a bunch of fruit without one it doesn't look likr such a stretch to picture one
2 likesI live in brazil and never heard of this brand before, I feel like the logo with the cornucopia just looks better, like a natural fit
2 likesit also is drawn in an art style I'm sure I've seen a cornucopia in and may be confused because it looks like that cornucopia
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2 likesThat’s a super interesting point, actually. The old-fashioned art style could strengthen the association, or be the entire cause of it if we were to assume my guess is wholly incorrect.
Honestly kinda sad how much time you people have.
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4 likesMate it took me less than two minutes to write that comment, chill
yepp. cornucopia may be an uncommon word, but it was one of those things that came to mind a lot when i was a kid (i'm guessing from seasonal books or cartoons) so i don't think it's that far fetched
2 likesThis is so unusual, here in Ireland we never saw Fruit of the Loom underwear however we would get like school uniforms and stuff made by Fruit of the Loom, but I can honestly never recall seeing a cornucopia
0 likesI think you answered the question: an image of fruit is so associated with a cornucopia that it's right there in the patent. It's no different from the monocle thing
0 likesI love when we lose our minds over trivial things like this.
1 likeWill never be able to convince me it never had a cornucopia. I distinctly remember asking my mom what fruit "that brown one" was at the store in the early 90's, learning then what it was, and then later that same year feeling a childish sense of pride when correctly naming it in class during a Thanksgiving activity. The combination of that proud moment while secretly knowing that "knowledge" was based on underwear (which at that age would have been embarrassing to admit) caused both events to simultaneously register as one significant-enough memory.
0 likesI have a near perfect memory of when I was about 5 or 6 and me and my dad were walking around Walmart and I remember there being a display of fruit of the loom shirts and underwear clearly being displayed along with sign showing the logo with the cornacopa
4 likesAnother example is from the James Bond film, "Mooneaker" where Jaws meets a blonde girl with braids and falls in love after she smiles at him.
0 likesI distinctly remember her smile revealing a mouthful of braces (hence the love-at-first-sight moment).
My fiancé and I both saw this movie in the theater when it first came out...a good seven years before we even met, and we both remember this scene.
However any modern print of the film ahows her free of any visible orthodontia.
Before watching this video, I can safely say that I never pictured the Fruit of the Loom logo with a cornucopia. But now, after watching it, the cornucopia looks completely natural. Not familiar, because I definitely never pictured it there, but natural, as if it's supposed to be there.
0 likesI think it's more of a showcase of the power of suggestion. Someone asks "does fruit of the loom have a cornucopia?" And our brain goes "yeah, that makes sense", so we fill it in. It's actually possible that those distinct memories have been filled in without us knowing.
0 likesThat or it's the most elaborate and thorough logo simplification of all time.
Damn, if you had asked me before this video if the logo had a cornucopia, I'd have said yes.
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I honestly think that when most people were at an age that Thanksgiving origins were taught to them, decorations and related media were prominent, is when we first recognized the similarities between our underwear logo and Thanksgiving pictures or wtvr
54 likesAt least, you think so now. But who knows what we'd really say if someone asked what the logo looked like, without mentioning a cornucopia?
22 likesI am quite sure it has on some slot machines.
2 likesWhat if you were asked what was in the logo without mention of a cornucopia? Do you think you’d include it then or could it be there because someone suggested it might be?
9 likesThe power of suggestion is, well, powerful 🤷♂️
6 likesHope you’re doing well max!!
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1 like@Boco Corwin i concur, the cornucopia is from a thanksgiving themed childrens drawing book.
4 likes@Boco Corwin America is the only country to celebrate thanksgiving, i grew up in the UK and I remember the fruit of the loom logo having a cornicopia
14 likesYour not wrong. Cern already proved with science you can rewrite history. It's called the quantum eraser. The residuals that prove it works are also present in Mandela effect. Big difference is cerns says it only works with small molecules and only a few seconds into the past can be rewritten.
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MAX WHERE IS TC2 ITS TRADITION NOW SINCE YOU DID IT TWICE
0 likesI actually remember the cornucopia being removed in around 2016.
2 likes@ׂ we are being brainwashed by the company, and the alternate universe we have entered.
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0 likes@Megan Adams just what i was thinking, being a kid in Denmark in the early 2000s I thought it was a waffle
2 likesMight have to see if I can dig that old iron maiden t-shirt up, probably won't find a cornucopia on it lol
@Boco Corwin I'm from Europe, almost never came across any images of a cornucopia, and didn't even know what its name was until now. One of the few places I DO remember is from is this logo, looks so much more natural with it there.
3 likes@Boco Corwin you’d think so but I’m in the U.K. and we don’t have anything thanksgiving related but I KNOW it had a cornucopia
4 likesIt did.
0 likesI'm not from the US, we don't celebrated thanksgiving here, but the image of the cournocopia is in my subconscious due to american media. I believe people underestimate how easy it woul've been to learn about it from a diferent logo or piece of media, and then mix it up with the underwear logo because since then we associate cournocopias with fruit. Since the missconception is so old and prevalent, it is possible it sustains itself by having people learn about the supposed cournocopia from a parody of the logo rather than the original.
0 likeshi max
1 likeExcept that's a loaded question.
0 likes@Astral Haze exactly my thoughts
0 likesi was reading the comments before I started the video and immediately recalled the cornucopia as well as it's placement and orientation; I asked my wife to recall the logo as well; she too recalls the fruit being held; then we watched the video and saw the new logo saying "that's not what it was"
0 likesI didn't even let her know why i was asking the question about the logo; I wanted to vett out the most honest non-biased answer from her.
Second grade in the 90's the art teacher had us draw a still life for Thanksgiving of that logo. Drawing the underwear logo was the funniest thing ever at that time and hearing our teacher say fruit of the loom over and over stuck with me. It had the fruit basket and I'm sure of it.
0 likesWhat I always found interesting about this, is the cornucopia in the apparently FICTIONAL mock logo that doesn’t actually exist... is EXACTLY how we all remember it... you’d think we would all remember a slightly different cornucopia if it wasn’t real... so weird. (Unlike Bernestein/stain... where it’s a single letter in a worded title... so the font would match every other letter)
0 likesInteresting to think about!
I'm gonna get a bit speculative, crazy-graphic-designer here. If you didn't know, there are eight principals of composition in art, one being rhythm. It's basically the elements of a composition that guide you through a piece. I'm wondering if people are adding in the cornucopia to help repair the logos rhythm. As of now, its a bit bland. You see the colorful fruit, then you read the logo. But with the added cornucopia, your eyes take a diagonal path downwards (tip of cornucopia to leftmost leaf), and end up at the start of the text. Its a more interesting, natural-feeling line than the original design, so it feels wrong when the cornucopia's missing
1 likeI once fabricated an entire area in my head in the Fallout New Vegas add on Old World Blues. I had to discover every location in the add on as well as double checking on the Fallout Wiki to realize that the area was never real and I imagined it. Which was crazy to me because I had supposedly memorized the interior of the area and an interactable object in it.
0 likesFun Fact: EmpLemon is actually green irl. The footage he shows of himself is not edited. He is actually a goblin.
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Is it just me, or is this Emp's face reveal? I don't remember him showing his full face before...
10 likes@Rkplblenny He did show his face before... several times at that. He was just very sneaky in doing so, kinda as an easter egg, so you had to be perceptive to catch that
32 likes@Rkplblenny he did it as a joker emp in one of his recentish videos, it was shown for a long time and not super hidden... but he was wearing makeup (assuming joker emp is him and not just melvin: brother of the joker with a shaved beard)
0 likes@Knack Okay...so, that's a "no" to my question. Thanks everyone for weighing in.
0 likesNo, EmpLemon is actually a simpson being because Simpsons are green.
1 likeIs EMP asian or hispanic?
0 likesAsian
0 likes@Arman Zakwan really? :(
0 likesI think it is a scar that the Downward Spiral left him
0 likes@Rkplblenny He showed his face in a stream he did with the Smash Bros Melee player
1 likeOkay, he may be green, but is he even retired? Didn't think so.
2 likesI'd say I was 95% sure it existed... it was such a strange object that I never knew what it was a child. I remember always being confused as to what that thing was. It's possible that I just saw many pictures in the 90's with cornucopias (since they showed images of it more often than they do today - as they're sort of an "old school" thing) and I just paired it with the only official logo with a collection of fruit. But the photoshopped version looks EXACTLY like what I remembered it looking like.
2 likesIt's just strange, because if reality is glitched, the cornucopia is exactly the sort of item they'd use to conceal it.. it's this strange item that no one intuitively knows/understands what it is until they ask their parents. So it's hard to say if you're just imagining things or not
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if there were...it had to be in the 70s.
0 likesI remember all the 90s ads and some of the 80s and there were nothing but fruit.
remember we wwre kids and we were also trying to just relate things.
I obky knew about cornucopia theijfh Thanksgiving images. But even if it'd not a Thanksgiving imagery, if I see fruits or vegetables or a mix on a table, I immediately go back to that strange thing I learned about...the cornucopia.
so I can see why when you go back in that old young, trying to relate things mind, you just slap on that cornucopia
I also vividly remember the cornucopia on the fruit if the loom logo from the late '90s maybe early 2000s being one if not my first interaction with a cornucopia. Absolutely baffled they claim it wasn't there
0 likesI like the idea that we all moved up a different timeline because maybe a previous one was doomed, even though its totally ridiculous rationally.
0 likesYeah, I can say ive both seen the underwear with and without the cornucopia, but id also like to point out 'Demeter's Travels' has a VERY similar cornucopia to the one you put behind Fruit of the Loom's artwork.
0 likesEvery emplemon video is like a regular show episode: it starts off normal than spirals into something deep
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Downward, I presume.
15 likesit’s never ogre
1 likeDeep? Perhaps.
1 likeSurreal? yeah, Thats regular show.
really strange how the Mandela effect can work from country to country. In the uk fruit of the loom is still a pretty popular brand but no one talks about it having a cornucopia.
0 likesThis is really off topic, but that Ed, Edd and Eddy episode Emp used briefly was the first cartoon to ever truly make an impression on me as a kid. It was so 4th wall breaking and existential.
1 likeI don't think Ed, Edd and Eddy is under-rated, but I also feel that people don't always recognize it as what an amazing cartoon it was. I still rewatch it as an adult and it never seems like it's talking down to kids or afraid to make certain jokes.
I literally don't remember seeing a cornucopia on fruit of the loom 😂 it looks so different with it all i saw was fruit and thought it was weird to have that on a underwear tag
0 likesI had never even seen a cornucopia or even heard of one when I was younger- but u still remember it looking exactly like that. When I saw a cornucopia for the first time, I even asked my grandma what it was and when she answered I literally responded with "so that’s what the fruit of the loom thingy is!"
0 likesHere's the thing.
431 likesBefore you even put the cornucopia on screen, I had the EXACT mental outline of it where it should've been. Same size, position, slightly lighter colors than I remember, THAT is bizarre.
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SAME WHAT THE FUCK
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And the same exact shape. The tail continuing to curl a bit at its end, the thickness of the ribbing, the amount of taper in width along the length... Exactly how I recalled it.
63 likesit's because it's in the thumbnail, it was already subconsciously implanted in your memory
45 likesI mean let's be real, how many other ways would your brain imagine it looking naturally? The only other way is flipped with the tip on the opposite side, nothing else would look right haha
11 likesGlitches in the simulation.
0 likesMe too, but that's because I saw the thumbnail.
2 likesMust be because it's look more prettier that way more stuff on top right to even the image
0 likesThis video didn't look super interesting and I clicked on it by total accident, but somehow it was extremely interesting and I stuck around for the whole thing. Really well done.
0 likesAfter you added the cornucopia it looked completely natural. Seeing depictions of fruit with cornucopias behind them, is super common.
0 likesNot to mention, memory is absolutely horrible. We can literally implant memories into our brain under the right circumstances.
I think it’s just weird to see a pile of fruit on underwear of all things, and it would kind of make sense for it to be in a cornucopia or some other container, the way the underwear contains our “fruit”
0 likesEmplemon really just made me emotional in a video about a freaking underwear logo.
0 likesSomeone give this man a Golden Globe or something.
Maybe the real cornucopia was the fruits we made along the loom
60 likesThe fact that cornucopias are included with each trademark involving piles of fruit shows just how common the association is. Whenever still life drawing is taught, you'll see examples of paintings with cornucopias. If you were asked to draw a still life of fruit, you'd be likely to put in a cornucopia, even if it was never mentioned or you don't even know what it's called.
0 likesI know all too well just how fallible memory can be. There was an anime I saw somewhere around 15 years ago give or take a few years. I recently rediscovered that anime, and the one scene I saw of it was NOTHING like what I remembered. I had it in my head that it was super detailed like along the lines of Ghost in the Shell, or Akira, but it turns out that Big O isn't anywhere near as detailed due to its style. I also mise remembered the shape of the robot in question, as well as the scale of the explosion it made as it was shot. On top of that, I misremembered the scene after it, where the butsling highway was actually just two vehicles on a city street, and the character's dress was black, and not white like how I remembered it.
0 likesAs someone who saw the Fruit of the Loom logo just now(never heard of them ever), the logo with the cornucopia feels way more memorable than the normal one. Maybe it was some kind of a parody logo in some show and as it's more memorable, everybody remembered that?
0 likesI think it’s because of thanksgiving because seeing the thanksgiving version invokes an even bigger sense of correctness than the fruit of the loom logo
0 likesI'm not entirely surprised that people keep recalling seeing a brown smudge on their undergarments. The fact they recall it being around the logo, that's the worrisome part.
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Uh oh...
7 likesI too am from the shit dimension
2 likes@Tim Tim ACTUALLY?!??!??????
0 likes@Tim Tim same here 😂😂😂
0 likesits a very common motif, its not that weve seen the fruit of the loom depicted so many times without the cornucopia but weve seen the cornucopia depicted so many times WITH the fruit that (like you explained in the video) we get it confused. Why so many people remember asking their parents about it, they probably saw an alternative depiction in the decoration section of hobby lobby and then just rememberd it being fruit of the loom.
0 likesI always thought fruit of the loom was missing an object, but this makes sense.
0 likesAs a person who worked at a clothing embroidery and printing shop for a summer where ALL our in store clothing was fruit of the loom there was never the cornucopia. I didn't even know that was a real thing. Unless that logo was before my time then it was not there man
1 likeFruit of the Loom made my school uniform. I remember examining the logo on my jumper in the car and asking why the fruit bowl is a cone instead of a bowl and he told me it was a cornucopia.
1 likeI specifically remember that's how I found out what a cornucopia was.
Why would so many different people misremember something so specific, when I was a kid I thought that the cornucopia was a “loom” and so that’s why I thought the company was named fruit of the loom because of the logo, fruit being in what I thought was called a loom. No one will ever be able to convince me that the logo never had the cornucopia. Makes me think that I shifted timelines.
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@user d'you have photos of these plates anywhere? I come from the UK and my parents had a bunch of stuff from years past, that could be it for me
0 likesI think the leaves kinda make you expect the fruits to be somewhere other than void
1 likeIm honestly amazed that my memory is so bad that I 100% remember it having a cornucopia. All my underwear were either Hanes or FOTL back then. I remember learning what a cornucopia was in class and recognizing it from my underwear. But of course none of this ever happened, but it feels so real.
0 likesI'd never seen the fruit of the loom brand until this video and didn't even know what a cornucopia was. But it seems more balanced with it like it's obvious to have some brown basket thing in the logo to contrast with all the lively fruit.
0 likesI was 6 years old in a target, when I asked my mom what the thing behind the fruit was. That was the first time I ever heard the word.
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Same thing here and...I also remember it being in a target
97 likesSame story . Exact same story.
58 likesSame story, except I'm not american so I was at Soriana.
42 likesSame here, except it actually will happen in the future when I start to missremember my underwear purchases due to the sheer amount of information I consumed in this video and in the comment section. My body is ready.
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0 likesSame here as well…
0 likesDUDE WTF SAME LIKE SAME EXACT STORY AND SAME AGE BRO IM SCREDDD
3 likesI was in a target too
0 likes@Sangrino u guys making me scared I was in target too and truly remember seeing this and learning from my mom
4 likes@Sriracha I bought a bag of chicken at soriana when visiting family in Mexico.
3 likesI never asked my parents, and I remember thinking that the cornucopia was "the loom". It's strange lol
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0 likesSounds like mass-suggestion - some initial audio statement (either broadcast, in printed word or via word-of-mouth) painted a concrete visual - virtually the same visual all-around - in peoples' minds. This in turn cemented the image in everyone's brain individually, and this then took reign in the brain as the "official" memory. This was akin to the Star Wars / Empire line, "Luke, I am your father," instead of the actual, "No - I am your father !" So after a year plus of amazement and wonder, this explanation seems somewhat believable and satisfying and at least STARTS to put the puzzle together.
4 likesAnd it looks like Mr. Larke again has just (partially) solved the case! Here's what happened...(See previous paragraph). While it's still possible this theory is wrong or incomplete, I at least think it make the most sense so far, as a more complete paradigm begins to unfold...
Don't worry folks - no charge for this one, and my secretary Trixie will be glad to validate parking as you exit the office... ;-)
liar...didnt happen
0 likes@Sewer World If you are OP's mom, why are your named Sewer World? Doesn't seem like a very motherly name
1 likeWhat if everyone just has implanted memories
0 likes@Coteh The Matrix (1999)
0 likesIt was there for sure!
0 likesi was eight in a costco and i asked my mom what it was and she said that it was a loom, hence the name. I called the thing a loom for a very long time after that. I cant believe that it was never there. My memory seems so real and i can recall the picture in my mind. Weird.
0 likesNah bro. I had that shit as my underwear and it had no corn on it. /serious
0 likesI literally had a pack of fruit of the loom socks that had a logo with a cornucopia on it. Finally opened it and threw away the packaging around a week ago. I wish I could find it, but it's somewhere deep in the landfill now.
0 likesSo I grew up in the 90s with Fruit of the Loom underwear and tees (from Walmart). I don't buy into the Mandela Effect at all because I suffered an illness as a teenager that messed up my memory for awhile, so I got a crash course on how faulty memories can be. However, I'm a visually-oriented person, and every time this logo thing came up, I couldn't ignore how much I thought I remembered the cornucopia. My first thought was that maybe Walmart was selling a knock-off brand, plus that cornucopia is in the same style of the generic clip art of the time. It's very likely that, if this was the case, the original logo we all saw has been lost to time.
0 likesOr we all just got collectively confused by some clip-art and our brains were like "that looks better, lemme just redesign that for you in your memory."
A neat trick is to ask people to draw a famous character like Batman or George Washington from memory in 1 minute. They don’t have time to look it up so they draw whatever comes to mind first. Illustrates this phenomenon nicely.
1 likeHere is something interesting, I am not familiar with the Fruit Of The Loom brand, but when I saw the logo with the cornucopia, it looked so natural, but when I saw the original logo after the old one, it looked like something was missing.
0 likeshaha i love how you compared memory to underwear by saying we always have it on unless we're intoxicated
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Hi Cary ._.
18 likesmmm yes, i too, intoxicate myself to correct my memories
6 likesDidn't expect to see you here 0_0
10 likesBfb moment
2 likesOr dementia. That'll also do it
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yes the funny rubiks cube stick figure
0 likesokay but what about the scotti-
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Hi Cary
0 likesHell yeah dude I was already subbed but you being part of the downward spiral made you my hero
0 likesCary, why are you here?
1 likedidnt expect cary here
0 likesLike memeory
0 likes@Wowerine is he not allowed to be here? I thought YouTube was open to everybody over a certain age, why would you block one person from being able to be on a place open to most of the world, what is wrong with you?
0 likes@Gmail Ugh calm down little thing
0 likes@Wowerine the words, “calm down” do not apply to me.
0 likesHello
0 likesCary ketchup holes
0 likeson one hand i wanna be like "bfdi" but i dont think cary wants to be known for that for the rest of his life
0 likesWhat????!?
0 likes@hmmm. Want or no want, he will be remembered for that, no matter what.
0 likesI feel like this could be one of those things that showed up in a textbook that is widely remembered, Like how the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell... Like we saw it at some point and used it as a reference to remember other similar things.
0 likesI feel like we've just seen a lot of art with a cornucopia and some fruit in front of it, hence why so many people have the correlation lodged in their head.
0 likesI remember the cornucopia on the plastic package in the early 80s and specifically asking my parents what it was. They also said the leaves were fig leaves. Strangely I don't remember it being in the tags. Maybe it was holiday packaging.
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Huh, packaging - that could be a lead that might explain why nobody can find evidence of it - seasonal packaging would be rare and thrown away
0 likesThis is great video, I do remember the cornucopia but I associated it with a supermarket brand I’ve never had a fruit of the loom underwear so I don’t know how I would remember the cornucopia logo or The fruit of the loom logo in general.
0 likesI always thought it was a seashell and now you tell me it never existed?! I even have a Fruit of the Loom sweater and that sweater was my favourite in my teens and early adulthood. Wtf man....
0 likesYeah. I got gifted a pair of underwear from Fruit of the loom as a child after seeing Stand By Me & loving the Fruit of the Loom Joke that's in it 🤣
0 likesBTW I'm Australian & there definitely was a cornucopia. I 100% remember this. Nobody can tell me different.
Not a popular brand here at all, in fact they were brought back from the states for me. Don't think you could even get them here 35 odd yrs ago 🤷♂️
This video made me feel like my perception of reality is completely wrong and that I shouldn't trust anything, then fixed it in like 2 minutes
0 likesMeanwhile I'm over here like "so THAT's what whose food things are called"
5 likesOk but that jazz album cover from the 70s actually freaked me out. That means we’re almost at the 50 year mark of believing this cornucopia existed when we have ample evidence (i.e. any pair of fruit of the loom underwear) to show that it doesn’t.
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I don’t think that’s the most logical interpretation of that album cover. It’s far more likely that the guy just wanted to put something music-related on the cover and thought that a cornucopia would fit well with the rest of the image.
41 likes@EW B Yes, and that's probably where most people got the idea of a cornucopia being in the logo in the first place.
13 likes@Dzhikhad Incorrect. I’m 13 and the video was the first ever time I’ve saw that album cover. However, I still remember the Cornucopia on the Fruit of the Loom Logo. That exact cornucopia drawing. I’m personally a believer of the “Seasonal Variant” Theory, where during autumn they sold a different logo on the underwear.
28 likes@🌟 Officer Soul Knight Unlikely. We have no material evidence of any kind that a variant was sold using the cornucopia. Our memories are more susceptible to suggestion than we think, it's very easy to convince someone they remember something that they actually do not. If enough people insist that they remember it with the cornucopia, then you might start remembering it that way too.
23 likes@🌟 Officer Soul Knight unrelated - is your profile picture a character from soul knight or enter the gungeon?
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1 like@PrCr I get asked that daily
1 like@🌟 Officer Soul Knight you comment a lot or soul knight has a bigger player base than I thought
1 like@EW B there’s an interview with the artist and he says he based it off the tag on a shirt
4 likes@__ Proof? In that case the myth could have originated with him.
0 likes@EW B but the album cover features a distorted flute, not a cornucopia. The image wouldn't make any sense if it wasn't a reference to the shape of a pre-existing cornucopia, and it certainly wouldn't influence people into remembering a brown basket behind the fruit. There's no way it could be the source of the phenomenon, at least.
5 likesI could go either way, honestly. I've only been around for 20 years and haven't even worn fruit of the loom for, God, as long as I can remember.
0 likesIn I way I think you solved the mystery, or you at least have all the pieces. Totally convinced that its the way the apple looks in the center, specifically the stem. Reminds me of a lot of what's typically in the center in the horn of plenty images I've seen. Wonder what that apple looks like faded or maybe to somebody with color blindness.
0 likesthat’s crazy that this phenomenon has been going on for 50 years. i’m starting to think there was a cornucopia and i didn’t even see it in the first place lmao
0 likesEither a lot of us did transition from some parallel dimension or timeline or Walmart took creative liberty with their advertising.
0 likesI can see WalMart asking for high "fidelity" images from their closest underwear partnership and FotL just taking too long so Walmart has their marketing design team create one.
Add that to regular fruit collections with baskets and cornucopias in art in the holiday season and you got another viable answer.
It's fantastic how Emp knows how to construct a consistently engaging documentary narrative from things as earthshaking as the Cold War to as mundane as an underwear logo. Not many creators have such versatility.
16 likesI just remember fruits man. I never remembered the Cone thing. Fruit/apple underwear we'd call it. Not an assortment basket of fruit underwear.
0 likesWhat's really weird to me is, "Life WAS like a box of chocolates" instead of Life IS like a box of chocolates from Forest Gump. It's either everyone didn't hear it right back in the day or some crazy shit happened. Because I remember everyone quoting it as IS instead of WAS.
I’m Brazilian but deeply into globalized American culture (yay!!), I swear I had absolutely no idea what were you talking about until you showed the version with the cornucopia. I immediately remembered it, I don’t know where it’s from, but i recalled having the distinct thought about how weird is having a logo with a cornucopia when I first saw it, but quickly dismissed it thinking it was just an American thing I couldn’t get.
0 likesI swear we’re onto something here, there’s references about it, but literally it never existed? I never really understood the crase about the Mandela effect until now, I mean, some things are easy to forget or to get confused about (like Pikachu’s tail) but this?…
I decided to change the logo in 1994 as I found the horn distracting. As such, reality shifted and changed all physical examples to the current configuration while instilling a predilection of disgust with the object.
3 likesSo shall it be.
I understand your disbelief. To provide circumstantial evidence, allow me to obliterate the molestation victims of Die Antwoord.
I find this whole discussion so strange, because I never-ever remembered seeing a cornucopia on the logo. The apple was always the top. I remember seeing cornucopias in other things, in children’s books and the like, but Fruit of the Loom was always a pile of fruit. I saw cornucopias in other things, from children’s books to November calendars. But never there.
0 likesIn fact, when I heard people saw the cornucopia, I mentally pictured it from the left and up, not straight to the right, and had to readjust my mental image to process what it was people were seeing.
WAIT IT'S FROOT LOOPS????? NOT "FRUIT"??
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I thought it was sugar rings, i buy the knock off stuff don't hate.
59 likesDo you remember there being a lawsuit about fruit loops having to change there name because it contains no fruit?
22 likesI thought it was Fruit Luips
34 likes@Woody OFP857 Chaotic Evil
33 likes@Woody OFP857 what?!
7 likesthis guy
2 likesSup shy guy I don't know why but all of my favorite youtubers have a great taste in youtubers :)
4 likesYes
0 likesSo they say...
0 likesYeah, it's always been like that.
2 likes@Please enter a name Fruit Rounds for me.
0 likes@Chocov 123 Hey another member of the "legit not fake cereal club" Welcome!
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Can’t believe people don’t remember the 4 loops on the box spelling out the words.
2 likesI actually do distinctly remember it as "froot" because the spelling used to annoy the hell out of me as a kid.
1 likeYeah.
0 likesWith "Froot" flavor.
froot luips
0 likesi kinda just pronounced the "oo" in "froot" like "boot"
0 likesFruit of the Loops
0 likesYou must be blind, cause I remember noticing the spelling of Froot Loops when I first learned how to read at age 4-5.
0 likes@logan H "froot loops spelled with o's instead of a u and I to avoid lawsuits. Hit it! Froot Loop Land, Froot Loop Land everybody sing along with the Froot loop band..."
0 likesI never thought it was fruit loops
0 likesI remember reading hunger games for the first time and that being the first time ever seeing the word ‘cornucopia’ and I remember thinking “oh it’s the loom thing on the fruit of the loom undies”
0 likesI always thought that the logo did have a cornucopia, but I now realize that it’s because a local supermarket chain has a strikingly similar logo to fruit of the loom, one which contains a cornucopia.
0 likesThis is all very interesting, but at 4:00, how is it possible that "heatwave" is lower than "altarpiece" and "cornucopia" on the list of most common words?! I hear it all the time when it gets hot!
1 likeI've never seen or heard of a cornucopia outside the context of the fruit of the loom logo in my memory. I think I must've seen one with fruit when I was very young and just have no recollection of it at all
1 likeThe logo just looks like it should have a cornucopia on it. Frankly, it looks somewhat lacking without it. Seeing fruit coming out of a cornucopia is the most logical association you could make.
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I totally agree. It seems like an easy mistake to make to me. Why would there just be a bunch of fruit in a pile and not in a cornucopia? Or a bowl? Or a tree? A hand? Anything!
5 likesI'm almost entirely certain that it's just the word "loom" throwing people off. They're imagining a "loom" with fruit in it. Simple as that.
0 likesI remember it, and I’ve never seen a cornucopia before, I just used to think it was a basket. It was the early 00’s, maybe there was an off brand company pretending to be Fruit of the Loom?
0 likesI think it's possible the "Flute of the Loom" album cover isn't a reference to the cornucopia but its origin. The artist wanted to add a flute to the logo to accompany the word play and chose to stylize it as a concucopia to fit the pile of fruit.
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Actually no. Someone contacted the original artist and he confirmed that he remembers the cornucopia.
0 likesThe cornucopia adds some disruptive assymmetry to the logo and I remember it to be almost symmetrical shapewise. To me it looks totally wrong with the cornucopia. I'm German and there are no brands (at least to my knowledge) that have a cornucopia in their logo, nor is it used that often elsewhere. As a kid I thought the logo was quite weird, especially for a t-shirt brand.
0 likesI remember a few years ago thinking “oh they got rid of the horn,” but I had no idea that the horn never existed to begin with!!!
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this is exactly what I was going to say, I thought it was just a case of brand simplification
13 likesI had a similar experience. I too remember the horn being part of the logo. Then recently I purchased shirts of this brand and noticed the horn was gone. I assumed it was just a redesign. Watching this video about the horn never even existing was surprising.
3 likesthe expressions lemon make are just perfect
1 likeI remember, as a kid, NOT KNOWING WHAT A CORNUCOPIA WAS, but figuring out what it was reading the Hunger Games and connecting it with the thing on the fruit of the loom tags.
0 likesThe only explanation I can think of has something to do with Settlers of Catan. Honestly, I have no idea.
Do you think it's the leaves? They make it look like the fruit is emerging from something and are often part of cornucopia designs.
0 likes"Both memory and underwear are doomed to get stained by something we don't really understand"
0 likesYeap. Words of wisdom
Emp 3 years ago: Why aren't there more people trying to be like the next Vsauce?
579 likesEmp now: Fine, I'll do it myself.
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Who knows, maybe he will be the next dunkey aswell
5 likesWhen did he say that? If you don't mind me asking.
2 likes@Iby Institute YouTube Downward Spiral one from 2-3 years ago
1 like@LEG10N nah he couldn’t he’d have to ytps to get good at being funny again
0 likes@Iby Institute rant
0 likes@Quang Thank you, Nguyen.
0 likes@LEG10N joey pouck
0 likesperfectly balanced, as all things should be
0 likesI think "of the" might be the culprit here. "Fruit of the Loom" implies they were produced from something, and since nobody knows what a "loom" is, people just assume there was a fruit-producing object in the logo. The artstyle always matches because that's the way the fruit is rendered.
0 likesPretty crazy because I remember it with a cornucopia. It actually looks weird without it
0 likesMore importantly this video makes me feel normal. I always felt like I had a bad memory and would fret about it a lot because we rarely admit to misremembering. This reminded me that I’m normal.
0 likesRight when I saw the ant bully scene I knew exactly why people including me were confused. I watched that movie a lot as a kid, that’s why.
0 likesthe real question is: how did he get the cornucopia on the logo. EmpLemon is, without a shadow of a doubt a clone from an other realty.
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THIS, WHO CREATED THE LOGO, THEY KNOW THE ANSWERS
7 likesIlluminati confirmed
2 likesI am British and in my late twenties, and I also remember the cornucopia. I remember learning about it from Fruit of the Loom. Most Mandela effects don't get me, but this one really has.
0 likesI think this is way overthought out. Honestly the sign really just does evoke the cornucopia to me and I think it likely does for most of us even if we aren't fully conscious of it, and it seems very plausible (to the extent that it's almost obvious to me) that most of us are simply projecting that association onto the logo based on its resemblance at first glance to the extremely widespread cultural iconography that is the cornucopia.
0 likesI saw the logo with the cornucopia in a store in France while I was visiting there as a kid, I distinctly remember it standing out and it more big than shown in the video. I even talked to my parents about it about what it was. Pretty odd ngl.
0 likes“Horn of Plenty” totally unlocked a memory I had with my dad about Fruit of the Loom. There’s no way that there wasn’t a cornucopia
2 likesIt's likely because most artworks that display a pile of fruit directly in front of a cornucopia have such similar fruits and art styles.
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Yea
4 likesThis is the most likely explanation
5 likesI don’t see how anyone else didn’t think of this.
4 likesI have never seen a pile of fruit in front of a cornucopia except on the fruit of the loom underpants
4 likes@Friend then you have a serious problem my guy
3 likes@Omeletttte I promise you I literally remember asking my mom what it was
1 likeI'm Purrito yeah I said that
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0 likesI grew up in a household where both my parents worked at a big grocery chain store and I know a lot about brands. I remember asking about the Cornucopia and asking if that was the loom, and I also remember seeing it without it in the 2010s and thinking while they Musta took the cornucopia off their image for some reason, so I don’t know
0 likesI’m just glad your videos have improved since you made this one…
0 likesThis cannot be a coincidence that we all have memories as like toddlers in my case and seeing a cornucopia on one of there products and wondering wth we were looking at. How could I just imagine putting an object that I didn't know existed into something meanwhile not even knowing the name of it or the company. Fruit of the Loom has got to be trolling.
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someone definitely time traveled and fucked with the timeline in 2021, so many people are saying they learned what a cornucopia was from the logo (i didn't, but so many people say that they did that it's oddly suspicious)
0 likes2:07 was a perfect example of what he was talking about at the time.
0 likesI feel pretty strongly that I want to say the cornucopia was only on things like packaging, the plastic bag the stuff came in, but that's... a really weird setup for them to have had. It might have to do with how the label interacted with the plastic and elements around it, the border around the logo and if and where the plastic became transparent.
0 likesI think we'd want to look at a few original packages, either unopened or otherwise preserved, but that's a really unusual artifact to have stuck around all this time.
My theory is that the arrangement of fruit and leaves in the logo closely resemble the way fruits and leaves are arranged in drawings/decorations with cornucopias in them. And in general, what kind of basket comes to mind when a pile of fruit is seen as if sitting on a table? Why, the cornucopia, of course. Furthermore, it's more aesthetically suggested that the cornucopia go off to the right instead of the left, as the layers of the image progress towards the background from left to right, along with the way the purple grapes and the leaf behind it are sitting up so high as if propped up against something behind them to the right.
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Doesn’t explain “flute of the loom” drawn in 1973 whose original artist has stated that the album cover was based on the fotl logo, you don’t need to be a genius to see that.
0 likes@Dp Not necessarily correct. If it was drawn from memory, the artist could have been subject to the same mental cues leading us to believe there was a cornucopia in the logo. I think the word loom also plays a part; as a child, I thought a cornucopia was called a loom because of the brand name Fruit of the Loom. But I can't recall ever seeing the logo with a cornucopia, as I don't remember well at all from never paying enough attention for it to stand out in memory. But I did think it had one in it.
0 likesAlot of things have changed, simple explanation is, every action has a reaction, someone's been messing with things far above their pay grade, I'm quite sure it's to do with time distortion, but it could be anyone of a thousand things.
0 likesThe thing is I don't remember seeing the cornucopia but the more I see it the more correct it feels although I know it's wrong.
1 like"Ultimately memory is a lot like underwear."
139 likesNever in a million years did I think I would ever hear such a great sentence uttered.
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Does anyone not remember going into a store like Winn-Dixie back in the day & see them doing special signs for sales? I swear, I’ve seen Fruit-Loom logo on a huge cardboard sign with the brown thing in the background. I swear.
0 likes4:52 its not farfetched to believe most people associate a cornucopia and fruit, this is such a wild and bold claim
0 likesOne thing missed was in the 1990’s in the UK there was (and still is with other brands) a HUGE market of fake clothing. There were loads of market stalls selling fake FOTL T-shirts and many of them actually had the cornucopia on the label. I personally had a selection of them in different colours. It was a plain T just with the logo on the label and left side of the chest. I’ve probably still got an old grey one in the spare room or garage storage box’s.
0 likesThis is crazy because I simply remember it changing overnight or at least with you know I noticed it and that year I went from the cornucopia to nothing and I didn't think too much of it I just thought that they changed their logo you know people do that all the time so weird like a lot of Mandela effects creep me out but this one specifically makes life seem off to me and I'm starting to question whether or not we are living in a simulation or somehow history is changing in a blink of an eye
0 likesThere will NEVER EVER be another YouTube like EmperorLemon
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I believe so my good man.
0 likesI’ve been seeing you everywhere lately
0 likes@mckinnonwolf who?
0 likes@Spongiroth EnaPants - EnaTenkiyoGaming the 90 days to change my name guy
0 likesI feel like I've seen you somewhere before
0 likes@Guaco me? You look familiar yourself tbh lol You on any furry media? I also frequent StoryFire and for a little bit was fairly active on Twitch as well. Or maybe on furry_irl?
0 likes@mckinnonwolf lol I meant uh XD the commenter but I have been on furry_irl so idk
1 like@Guaco oh lol but yea that dude’s everywhere and quite often has top comments
0 likesThe spelling for Burndstein Bears, or what the heck ever its supposed to be, is another perennial favorite of the "remembering it wrong" genre.
0 likesAlso I am absolutely baffled at EmpLemon here for not recognizing that "pile of fruit" might just get crossed over with "funny shaped basket" from all our Thanksgiving years and Christmas fruit baskets, and instead makes the dizzying leaps of logic to color theory and copyright symbology. Like, people are dumb sometimes, okay? You don't need a special theory for it.
That’s exactly what happened to me as a child I learned what a cornucopia was from the logo my mom told me.
0 likesYou say you remember things you find interesting and unique when I was a kid that’s exactly how I felt about the cornucopia because it was a new object I had never seen or heard before.
I thought it had a cornucopia but showed both logos to my mom and said which logo is fruit of the loom and she pointed to one without cornucopia.
0 likesThe creepiest part is the 3 pieces of media that purposely have a cornucopia in the logo. It's like they are purposely messing with our minds. 3 different decades, 3 different media with logos depicting a cornucopia!?! Cmon this one is WEIRD!!
Anybody else remember a couple reddish brown maple (?) Leaves behind the fruit? I distinctly remember them where the cornucopia is usually pictured, not on either side like the brown leaf version.
0 likes5:50 is the most interesting. Because why would he have the flute positioned in such a way?
1478 likesIf the original image (that he is parodying) never had the cornucopia, then why would he randomly make the flute behind the fruit look EXACTLY like one?
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Thank you! I would believe that we are all just misremembering it if it wasn't for the physical evidence that was shown from the past. Surely the artist that drew the parody looked at the original while he was painting!!! Why would the artist introduce this new feature into the parody? I am baffled.
204 likes@liquid He's parodying it. A parody is not 100% accurate or else there would be copyright claims to deal with.
75 likes@liquid Because he was also under the mandala effect? This phenomenon isn't a recent thing, its just that we only realized its effects in full recently due to the internet.
109 likesUpload more street fighter five shit
3 likes@liquid Because it's an easy way to make the image about music. Why would the artist making a musical parody of a logo not put anything in it related to music?
34 likesThey had to put a flute in the picture, making it look like a cornucopia was just perfect to make it with the fruit theme.
36 likesMy take. He wore knock-offs.
6 likes@GemGen But it isn't 100% accurate even without the cornucopia/flute. There are turnips, cabbage, squash, and what looks like some kind of meat, whereas the logo is all fruits.
17 likesBecause it's warping in from a distance. It was a common visual effect on old album covers. It's just a coincidence that it looks like how we remember the logo.
7 likesMaybe that parody WAS the one that introduced the cornucopiflute and that's where the others actually get their memories from?
18 likesIt was reasonably famous enough to start the whole thing.
@Marzipancutter that's what I think
1 likeOk, I have some interesting data. In the Mandela Effect subreddit, a user did their best to find the person who designed that album cover, but the person was unable to answer directly so they talked through their son. The response? The son said that his father said that he based the Flute 100% on the cornucopia on the logo. He said that he tried to parody the position of the horn of plenty like it was a flute. And that it would not have made sense if the logo didn't had a horn. He said that he watched the logo very closely while painting the album cover. I can send you guys the post or you can look it up, it's very interesting.
8 likesright? wouldnt he be looking at a reference to make the cover? aagh
0 likesI learned about cornucopias in elementary school around thanksgiving, i wonder how many people who remember the cornucopia are from the US and got cornucopia shown to them in school
0 likesThe scrambled words idea is interesting. Any native Japanese speakers know if this would work in Japanese? Or other languages like Korean/Chinese.
0 likesI first learned the word "cornucopia" as a kid from asking what it was, in the fruit of the loom logo, as a kid. So ... this is weird.
0 likesThe cornucopia as a theme has always been associated with fruit since antiquity.
0 likesThe autumnal connection is a purely american one, by way of Thanksgiving.
As a continental european, imagining a horn of plenty, i see varied produce and grains, but definitely with fruit as a major part.
I love it when YouTubers make mini-documentaries on completely mundane topics like this and yet keep my attention the whole way through.
85 likesI remember acting in an elementary school play about thanksgiving and thinking about the fruit of the loom logo when wondering what a cornucopia was
1 likeI am pretty late on this, but I am NOT from the US. During a trip to Greece in 2004 I came across a t-shirt I loved, it was from Fruit of the Loom. I remember seeing some fruit on the tag and never paid much attention to it other than the shirt having great cotton fabric. I am SURE I have seen a cornucopia even though at the time I had no clue on what it was. Very odd Mandela effect.
0 likesyou know. the real fruit of the loom logo looks empty without the cornucopia. it just looks right with it added in. people probably felt like something was missing and later filled in something that matched the theme of the logo
0 likesi think one of the reasons ppl in the comments feel like the cornucopia fits is because 1) the design is more proportional and balanced and 2) the icon/picture of the cornucopia that you used was adapted to fit the logo’s drawing style. the shadows and colors match. if no one had created this picture to add to the discussion, and instead we’d be using eg. photograph cutouts as pictures, people would not be as easy to jump on the idea that there was an actual cornucopia behind the fruits. i think our brains just immediately enjoy the aesthetics.
0 likesThey should add it. Logo looks wrong with no cornucopia.
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I feel like we've all misremembered this logo. But I know people who have remembered it as different things. I remember there being a harp. Two of my friends remembered an actual loom depicted behind the fruit. And then my other two friends remember a cornucopia. None of us remembered just fruit. I also feel stupid for thinking it would have been a harp. Why the fuck would I think they'd put a harp on a logo about fruit? Honestly this is the only time I'm at a loss of explaining a mandela effect. I am absolutely stumped.
93 likes@0 no cap I thought about a harp as well at first
3 likes@0 why not? when you're not paying attention, the brain pretty much makes up what's there (to some extent), and recent experiences/weird connections could make them think of a harp for some reason
11 likes@0 I never remembered this logo having a cornucopia. But after watching this I can't not think about it. I thought it was a bundle of fruit displayed on some grape vine.
10 likes@0 as am I
0 likes@0 i bet the answer is just that the logo genuinely looks like it's missing something, from a design perspective, so on recollection people instinctively add whatever they think would fill out the logo
20 likesa cornucopia adds shape and color to the logo while making thematic sense, so it's the most common addition
i remember a bicycle
2 likesI don't remember any of this shit like the cornucopia (probably because I'm not American) but if you asked me to draw this logo from memory I would definitely have drawn some bananas.
3 likesitd be great
0 likesFruit of the Loom is lying to us. I’m certain we’re not crazy how could so many people remember something the same totally random cornucopia without it ever being there.
0 likesWe don’t really get fruit of the loom clothes where I live so I hadn’t seen the logo until I came across it in context of the Mandela effect - and yet even for me the cornucopia version just looks right, and the real logo looks empty like something is missing
0 likesOver time, some of the green leaves could fade into a brownish colour with multiple washes, to the same shade of the basket thing. I reckon that this is the cause of the anomaly.
0 likesI had three FotL shirts as a kid so it's more than possible that my memory is at fault. But I remember the fruit being placed in a basket, not cornucopia. The reason why I remember it after all those years is that the logo was very small and I never inspected it much. I always thought it was just a picture of various colored balls of wool placed in a basket and one day I was looking at it closer and I realized it was a fruit in a wool basket and suddenly it made a perfect sense to me. But now I don't know. Also, we were extremely poor so they might have easily been knock-off shirts. Which is the most rational explanation for the cornucopia misconception as well.
0 likesDon't forget the actually named "Jiffy" Cornbread mix.
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I wonder how many people will read your “the” as “they”
63 likes@DrTocan I feel called out
31 likesJiffy pop
6 likesIt's pronounced "giffy"
5 likesIn a jiffy
0 likesThere's also Jiffy Pop, a brand of popcorn that comes in an aluminum foil pan. I remember eating some while camping as a kid.
10 likesOr their pizza crust mix. That was some good stuff to make pizza on.
1 likeAmd popcorn, and oil changers lol
0 likesYo that shit's good tho
0 likesyeah bro I've got like 20 boxes of that shit in my cupboard
0 likesYiffany Harley Lalonde
0 likesHow could I forget? I live in the town where the factory is
1 like@UShallKnow My Wal-Mart carried Jiffy crust kits two years back. Haven't been able to find them since, but they were great.
0 likesOr Jiffy Lube
3 likesJiffy pop popcorn
0 likes@DrTocan "They" doesn't even make sense here, what are you on about?
0 likes"Don't forget they actually named "Jiffy" Cornbread mix" ? What?
The comment reads to me like "Don't forget the ACTUALLY named "Jiffy" Cornbread mix" with emphasis on Actually to show how it is actually named Jiffy, whereas our memory is incorrect, and no peanut butter was ACTUALLY named Jiffy. I think you just misunderstood the sentence. Unless you are adding words and rearranging sentences to make them make sense "Don't forget THEY actually named Cornbread mix 'Jiffy'"
Yeah it was good
0 likessml joke
0 likesThe peak
0 likesidk what that is, i do know of jiffy lube though
0 likes@redxpen you're the third to say that after me and marble
0 likes@marble what is there an echo in here?
1 like@𝓿𝓲𝓬𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 LOL
0 likes@𝓿𝓲𝓬𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 hey you missed one: jiffy pop stovetop popcorn available in only one flavor: jiffy pop butter flavor popcorn, and other products jiffy pop microwave pop butter flavor popcorn and jiffy pop microwave pop "natural".
0 likesJiffy pop is a ConAgra product, and is a subsidiary of International foods purchased by ConAgra in the year 2000.
Jiffy pop is not responsible for any accident death or dismemberment due to a misuse of their products.
Sure, but my dad and sister named the dog jiffy after the peanut butter, not the cornbread. This was in 2008.
0 likesLearning a new language with non-latin characters will show you just how fallible your memory can truly be.
0 likesWho drew that cornucopia in that style though? I feel like I have seen that “infamous” drawing, maybe not in a store or something, but definitely online.
0 likesim not even from the country that fruit of the loom markets at, but since my dad own one of those shirts growing up. i remember that cornucopia horn thing on the tag explicitly.i remember having an entire confersation in my head about it and its so weird....i still own that shirt and just when i knew people werent sure of the horn things existence i went back to the shirt and it wasnt there
0 likesi didnt even knew thanksgiving was a holiday, or what it was even called. i just assumed it was a horn and was called a loom...
come on man, here i am binge watching a creator who i have only just recently found and he just has to bring up the fact that my beloved falcons choked away that lead 😭 i’ll never escape this hell
0 likesI vividly remember thinking that cone thing was a weird waffle cone as a kid.
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Yes same here!
6 likesI distinctly remember thinking it was a croissant
44 likesI thought they got rid of it to simplify the logo...
37 likes@12345 678 That would be the most logical answer but if you search for old old pictures of the fruit of the loom logo you’ll notice that no one picture has a cornucopia in it. So, it’s very weird how not one person on the earth has a single picture of the fruit of the loom logo with a cornucopia. So obviously “12345 678” that’s not the answer to this mandala affect.
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@Asdf1010 same
0 likesokay well you have to consider that especially in American tradition, even if the word cornucopia isn't thought of, the brown basket is simply commonly associated with arrays of food like on the logo of fruit of the loom. Though the word is uncommon, the object is a recognizable part of thanksgiving tradition and it could have just been associated with the logo since it is an array of food.
0 likesThe ultimate showdown footage at 10:41 is a throwback
1 like...never heard of fruit on the loom, the fruits and the weird thingy as I like to call it is an entirely different brand. I imagine looking up brands in Asia cause I cannot be asked
0 likesWhile the Berenstain/Berenstein Bears Mandela Effect has never resonated with me (I totally get how kids back in the day looked over the name and forever commit the wrong name to memory, certain that it was always that way), this one has hit me hard in recent years. I swear I remember that damn cornucopia in the Fruit of the Loom logo, I swear it was always there, I didn't need any video to call attention to it, I have clear as day memories of seeing that cornucopia, that seems far harder to misremember than an 'e' instead of an 'a' in a last name.
0 likes11/10 for using a clip from “Smiling Friends.”
150 likesNo, but seriously, this was a great video! Informative and enjoyable as always!
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I smiled when I saw it :) little Zach is going places.
3 likesYour videos and channel are like a drug unpredictable and interesting
1 likeActualy good video essays… good job emplemon
0 likesI personally remember that 8 used to come before 7. Yes I was very young and a mistaken tick of a teacher might have caused it but it's still very weird.
0 likesmaybe you could explain this with something similar to mass hysteria ? one person incorrectly remembers it and hearing someone else recall so vividly something they remember makes you think back and add false details to memories? every time you recall a memory from your long term memory you remember it correctly less and less each time. similar to mass hysteria
0 likesI swear sometime in elementary school they made us colour what looked like the fruit of the loom with the cornucopia during thanksgiving and that’s why it’s in my memory.
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This is what I was thinking must have happened too
17 likesTbh sounds legit
5 likessame situation with me but then I went home and I asked my parents what that viking horn was suppose to be and they said it was a cornucopia. I asked like on the commercial (had no clue it was for underwear, I just new it involved a loom) ? They said yes. the memory was strong because they spend a long time helping me pronounce cornucopia and I proceeded to impress my friends and sisters by telling them the word every time I saw the image on TV.
25 likesOh wow, that makes a lot of sense actually
4 likesThats exactly what I was thinking, that people took the fruit of the loom logo and used it as a reference to make images with cornucopias of fruit.
2 likesI distinctly remember no cornucopia, maybe being in England where cornucopia are less prevalent (no thanksgiving) has an effect.
1 likei've never believed these "Mandala Effect" theories. i've always considered them to be stupid, pointless and an excuse for people to make excuses for their patchy, inconsistent memories.
0 likeswhich makes it all the more hilarious when I fall for one myself.
I remember fact-based videos with intrusive musical backgrounds that make you mute and CC the whole thing before giving up. And get this : NO ONE can tell you why Youtube content creators instinctively reach for this musical ketchup to pour onto their metaphorical steak of content.
0 likesWe swapped memory for language early on, and it's literally the reason we're a social species; without consensus, not one of us would remember to get dressed in the morning.
0 likesThe cornucopia logo looks better, personally.
118 likesSo if they didn’t have it, they should have.
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That's the truth. Although, the cornucopia changes the box outline of the logo from a rectangle to a square, making it take up a lot more tag space.
12 likesWrong
0 likesMy memory of learning of what a cornucopia is while reading The Hunger Games. I decided to look it up and I had the exact thought "oh like the old fruit of the loom" logo.
0 likesI remember it pretty vividly so something had to exist like that even if it wasn't fruit of the loom
0 likesI just have very distinctive memories of being in the Walmart kids section when I was around five and looking at the display and that darn cornucopia was there 😭
0 likesokay i know emp explained it as the human brain just doesnt waste the time or energy to fully understand something that is so mundane and unimportant such as a branding on underwear, but honestly i think theres multiverses, because i cannot wrap my head around something so detailed, and unique just being made up.
0 likesThe real conspiracy is how this dude went from making YTPS to full in mini documentaries
82 likesI don’t think it never had a cornucopia I think what is happening is we associate piles of fruits and Vegatable with cornucopias from all the fall images of them and when we see the fruits we imagine a cornucopia.
0 likesThere is also some factor of the cornucopia looks like it fits and we never actually think about what it used to look like
Collocation -
0 likesA collocation is made up of two or more words that are commonly used together in English.
‘fruit’ ‘loom’ and ‘cornucopia’
This is a language related compression of memory. The mystery isn’t about the logo. The mystery is that we would collectively correct the logo to match for our linguistic colocates.
Thanksgiving festivals hark back to a time when looms and cornucopias were prevalent in daily life. People don’t think of today’s mechanical looms when they think of the word, the word loom single handedly brings the mind into a pre-industrialization context. A collection of fruit in the context of such a time would be related to a gathering of exuberance, and when we think of a pre-industrial celebration, our nearest frame of reference is thanksgiving holidays.
For me George never had a tail, but I do recall as a small child the fruit of the look having the cornucopia
0 likesI specifically remember asking my mom what the cornucopia was on the logo as a young child !
0 likesMeanwhile in an alternate universe
625 likes“Didn’t the Fruit Of The Loom logo never have a cornucopia?”
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"Didn't the Fruit of the Loom logo have fruits?"
23 likes"Didn't the Fruit Of The Loom exist?"
10 likes"Didn't the Fruit of the Cornucopia logo have a loom on it?"
10 likesYes I'd like to order one Large sofa chair, with extra chair, please.
7 likesHighchair! No. no. no. Recliner! And, Wheelchair on half.
Those are the people we switched realities with lol
1 likeQuantum Immortality might explain this phenomenon. Basically the theory states that we can only perceive timelines or realities where we are in fact alive. It's possible that there was in fact a reality where minor differences occurred (fruit of the loom, bearenstain bears, shazam, etc), but this version of our reality was catastrophically destroyed via some asteroid or nuclear event that we have so conveniently avoided in our current timeline.
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or maybe people’s memories are just shit
7 likesThe F&G example may have been the most similar my memory can come up with . Whats weird is I completely and for sure know I remember seeing the logo and im 18 years younger than my mother but she remembers no such cornucopia absolutely maddening
0 likesIn second grade I learned the word cornucopia in class and the teacher brought up the fruit of the loom logo when she explained it to us. I specifically associate it with that logo and can't imagine another cornucopia kids at that time would be familiar with.
0 likesBerenstein bears were definitely spelt stein. I've asked multiple people who don't know about the mandela effect how to spell it and they always say and remember it as stein. 100%. As for some of the other examples, I cant say for sure but that one I remember for sure.
0 likesI definitely remember the logo having the cornucopia. I had an plain white tshirt that still had it up until a few years ago. I remember asking what happened to the cornucopia and having a conversation about the commercial with the people dressed like the fruit and thinking the cornucopia wasn't in the commercial because the costume would be so lame. It's crazy this is a Mandela Effect. Super weird.
0 likesI think it's as simple as; the logo looks better with a cornucopia. People see the logo with a cornucopia painted behind it, and as it is more aesthetically pleasing, they prefer that version. People could easily lie about remembering or having conversations about the cornucopia and spread the idea further. Others could perhaps be remembering conversations about other Mandela effect items and confusing them with Fruit of the Loom as it is a popular topic.
1 likeThe Pikachu one makes sense now because the female Pikachus' in games have a heart shaped tail, and in the remakes of generation 3 there is a special Pikachu you can dress up; her heart on her tail is black.
0 likesIt's easily plausible that people could confuse the logo for having a cornucopia, considering they're mostly associated with food, but it's also not confused for being on other brand logos and packaging like Capri Sun, as in the video, because it'd look out of place on a Capri Sun label
0 likesEdit: NOT ME! I haven't used it in months, and it's great
"Meet the folks who remember New Zealand being in a different place," I've met them and here we just call them kids who didn't pay attention in geography.
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more like, not paying attention to geography and [doubling down] on that 'belief' that it was where they remembered it
19 likesIm genuinely positive i've seen (maybe just really low quality) maps with NZ in the wrong spot. Props to them for not forgetting it entirely
8 likesFrom New Zealand, I can confirm we don't exist, stop looking for us
14 likesThere's surprisingly many world maps or illustrations that outright miss New Zealand (there's a subreddit for it and that made it into the and there was an IKEA map forgetting them in early 2019, that should be easy to find in the news archives). Who'll really notice if they shift up by a couple hundred kilometres? Hell, switch them with Japan and people won't even notice.
0 likes@desallis Then how can you explain Split Enz?
0 likesI haven't thought about Fruit of the Loom for years but when I saw the logo with the cornucopia, I swore it was the right one lol
0 likesI feel like the cornucopia here is exactly like the monocle on the Monopoly Guy―traditional cornucopia imagery looks a lot like the Fruit of the Loom logo. It may not be as common an image today, but it somehow feels like it wasn't all that rare in Thanksgiving depictions a few years ago
0 likesthe reason why this mandela effect baffles me so much is because i have a specific, very vivid memory related to it.
0 likesi was VERY young, i wanna say 2 or 3, maybe 4? i was in walmart with my mom and my older brother and i wandered off, still within the sight of my mom. at the end of the aisle my mom was in there was one of those lone cardboard stands filled w fruit of the loom underwear. i remember it being blue and plastered with the logo, cornucopia and all. my mom came over to grab some since that was the brand my brother wore. i asked my mom what the brown thing was and she said a cornucopia. that was too big of a word for me though, so i dubbed it the loom since the brand name was FRUIT of the LOOM. it just seemed to make sense.
i asked my brother if he remembered the cornucopia and he said he did. when seeing the current logo he literally exclaimed “what the fuck?” and honestly same. i personally believe that the logo may have been a seasonal variant, as i remember on that specific shopping trip we were shopping for back to school, in the fall. though i do have other memories of the altered logo beyond that one shopping trip, the story i told is the most vivid. i just. really don’t know. i’m positive this happened.
I must not have come from the alternate timeline where there was a cornucopia - because when i first saw the side-by-side it struck me as out of place.
1 like"We tend to remember whatever we find important, fascinating, or unique". How appropriate you put a clip of Ultimate Showdown with this, back in the day I could recite pretty much the entire thing and it became as likely to pop up at our parties as Disney songs or other early viral songs when drinks started to flow.
90 likesWhile I think the Mandela Effect is totally bunk, there's an excellent X Files episode written by Darin Morgan that does an excellent job using it as a plot device called "The Lost Art of Forehead Sweat". Highly recommended.
0 likesI don't live in the USA but I have seen a bunch of food logos with the cornucopia.
0 likesIt's quite possible that there is cross-contamination in memories from other companies knocking them off
The Monopoly guy one gets me. I could swear I remember him with a monocle, and in Ace Ventura they make a Monopoly guy joke that involves a dude with a Monopoly guys.
0 likesThere must have been a lot of knockoffs in the 70s-80s, cuz I absolutely remember that cornucopia in the logo. No doubt.
0 likesI swear there was a cornucopia in the Fruit of Loom logo that just looked EXACTLY like the one you use in the video so I don't know how it can be so accurate but yet not exist. Like I feel the whole universe has bend backwards to just gaslight us.
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I Remember the oddly braided rim too. I thought it was a viking horn for the longest time, why I remembered it so vividly.
17 likessomebody edited this simulation because i'm absolutely sure it existed
13 likesThe cornucopia existed, you’ve just shifted timelines.
6 likesI honestly think this cornucopia discrepancy is literally an example of someone gaslighting us.
14 likes@/X/EN
2 likesWhich government agency do you work for... we all know this is the government trying to see if they can influence the memory of the public
I kinda remember it had a cornucopia but i use froot of the loom so i for sure knew it did have
0 likes@/X/EN on an individual basis, sure.
4 likesHowever, when you've got a few tens of thousands of people all remembering an identical and specific object each on an individual basis with no collusion between them including multiple creators of popular media throughout multiple decades referencing this misremembered piece (all of these references being made before this was even a popularized "conspiracy"), going "lol human brain dum" seems just a bit lacking...
Not to mention the unbelievably large number of people who will swear up and down there's a cornucopia meanwhile I've never seen a single person volunteer to swear on their mothers soul no cornucopia existed (save for Fruit of the Loom themselves). You'd think that if there truly wasn't one at least ONE person would come out and say "yeah I remember spending an hour staring at the logo once as a kid cause I was dumb and bored and there totally wasn't a cornucopia."
Nobody anywhere that I've seen has been prepared to swear to the "true" logo, meanwhile there's an endless stream of people willing to swear to the exact same non-existent one.
@Trevor Valance If anything that just proves that human brains are unreliable in similar ways. Maybe if our memories inserted random nonsense into memories you would be correct, but it's more likely that some common thread leads people to misremember the logo in a similar way
0 likes@PyreGnome Why would thousands of people just make up a random object of a popular logo. I can see miss spelling of the bear stain bears. Or mirror mirror on the wall. But a random object that thousands of random strangers remember is kind of hard to explain. Some people even learned about the cornucopia from the logo so...
2 likesWith so many comments on this video, I doubt anyone will see this, but I just wanted to share something. In response to this video I googled trying to see if there were any logos from my past similar to fruit of the loom that may be just not be nationally known enough for you to mention. I didn’t find any. However, I found a bunch of cornucopia drawings that very much reminded me of the fruit of the loom logo. I think that might be what’s going on here. We see a bunch of cornucopia drawings that look similar to the logo and gradually start to conflate the two
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If there never was an actual cornucopia on the logo why would millions of people falsely associate drawings of fruit in a cornucopia with a random logo that has just fruit on it, the cornucopia is such an obvious and specific detail that it makes it a huge stretch to assume that drawings of fruit with a cornucopia would be associated with the logo that just has fruit on it, when people think of piles of fruit nobody automatically imagines them being in cornucopias and even if they did it still doesn’t explain why people are “misremembering”
0 likesI kinda remember it having a cornicopia too!!! especially in the early 00s when they still did the commercials with the men dressed as the fruit.
0 likesI find this funny because I use too only by Fruit of the Loom underwear until my senior year and genuinely believed it had the cornucopia
0 likesI asked my mom what that thing at the back was while we were purchasing socks. She remembers being embarrassed because she couldn’t answer and told me it was a loom. I think it was on one poster at Wal-Mart or Ames.
0 likesI feel like a fact a lot of people look over when it comes to the Mandela effect is the media bias, certain misrememberings are present all throughout TV and can greatly influence memories.
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Human memory is straight up terrible, almost everything you see everywhere influences your memory of everything else, because it’s a monky brain designed to recognize predators. I’m sure 99% of the people claiming to have seen the cornucopia logo just saw some Thanksgiving clip art that looked similar
24 likes@Denice Sandburg seems like I'm one of the few who never remembered a cornucopia at all
5 likesSometimes i feel like in the late 1990s early 2000s we all missed a new story talking about how "the name of [brand name here] mysteriously changed to [close to brand name here] yet it was never [brand name here]" then the government was like "maybe we shouldn't talk about this" and we've only been noticing personally meaningful things here and there.
0 likesIdk man. I’ve seen a lot of cornucopias with fruit in them as a kid wether in school or on the internet. There’s a good chance that we see that fruit in that kind of order and just assume it to be there.
0 likesAsk a photo memory savant what they remember the fruit of the loom logo looked like.
0 likesInteresting thing that the indie video game "Atomicrops" uses cornucopias as the currency for the permanent upgrades.
0 likesit's wild to me that people would rather believe "there's multiple universes and they got mixed up" over the obvious reality of "we just misremembered the same stuff that seems obvious"
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When "we" is literally millions of people, you have to admit something is going on.
0 likes"Wait, Fruit of the Loom is an oversimplified logo now?"
1 likeaims gun "Always has been."
In my mind a lot of the “Mandela effects” is like the winners/warehouse store brand of everything where someone mistyped one thing once and sold it to those places for bulk
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Because most of the Mandela effects are products where someone saw and remember a certain look of a brand because it was a cheap version of it and majority of people never really notice the basic logo of the actual product
0 likesThe phrase “fruit of the loom” makes people wonder what a loom is and why fruit is in it. Then they assume that a loom is that weaved cornucopia thing. Cornucopias also have fruit in them for some reason. 2+2=false memories.
0 likesI sweeeaaar I learned the horn of plenty from my parents while staring fruit of the loom logo!!
0 likesI have never heard or seen fruit of the loom since I don't live in the US, but the cornucopia just seems to belong
0 likesThe version I remember had the regular small fruits you see here, but then a big honkin' banana defying gravity and rising out of the center of them (well it leaned slightly left). I'm pretty sure that was a parody, though. Possibly Mad Magazine or Cracked?
0 likesWeird, I always remembered those earbuds as being called "Roycons".
0 likesIf the logo never contained a cornucopia, then where did that drawing of a cornucopia that fits perfectly with the logo style come from?
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Maybe a graphic designer wanted to show "I remember it as X" / was commissioned to draw it ("hey, Joe. Can you draw that logo? But with a c …corn … horn of plenty behind?").
40 likesI was thinking the same exact thing
1 likeSomeone made it to illustrate how it would look.
1 likeadding a flute shaped like cornucopia helps play off the title
1 likeI remember learning the word cornucopia because of Fruit of the Loom. Weird.
0 likesI wonder if there was one really prominent either parody or reference to fruit of the loom in mass culture that first included the cornucopia and then lead to everyone referencing that. Sort of like the nickname for Jim in Huck Finn, who is never actually named anything but Jim. There's one sentence where he is identified by the n word, but more as a label of his job and not capitalized as if it was part of a Proper noun. A prominent essayist actually coined the nickname way later and that name stuck.
0 likesThis was very well made
0 likesI think the cornucopia just appears with fruit so it's easy to add it to the image
0 likesI was expecting a rant on the new "right to monetize" stuff from YouTube, but he delivers on Fruit of the Loom. Never change, Emp
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I don’t want another rant from Emp, ever again.
0 likesI didn't know what a cornucopia was until I seen my fruit of the loom underwear as a kid, and when I did see it, my stupid kid self thought the cornucopia was a big Bugel chip and I wondered why they would use a big chip mixed with fruit for a logo.
1 likeThe fruit of the loom may never have had a cornucopia, but the original logo had a brown table visible under the fruits… that feels weirder and even LESS satisfying to me
0 likesi never got any of these effects except for when my friend said that blue from blues clues was a boy, and when i went online to prove that blue was a girl and magenta was a boy, i lerned they were apparently both girls. even though i watched blues clues until i was 16 with my little brother, and i always thought it was cool how the pink dog was a boy and the blue one was a girl.
0 likesI’m not sure about all the Mandela effects, but I have a memory of shopping in target with my mom when I was little and asking what that thing was on the fruit of the loom logo and her saying that it’s a cornucopia. I know that happened.
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I think the problem is...I know for a fact I have memories that aren't mine.
0 likesmeaning...there are things that I'll see, or someone will say something of their own memory, that supposedly included me, or I'll read sometninf...and I'm like, "oh, I remember that" but I honestly 100% honestly do NOT remember it. memory only having a piece of what was said or read or whatever.
of course I remember I played basketball last year in the park on a pretty clouded day...after you tell me we wwre there. is it ME remembering or is it my mind picturing what you said, and placing it in a frame that I feel like is a past experience?
I enjoy being as honest as I can with myself. I WANT to know everything and remember all things, but I have to be honest. There are things that I only have a picture of based on someone else's testimony. ot my own clear memory.
You probably just heard SOMWONE ELSE say something like that....and you searched your memory for a time you questioned about that underwear logo...but it wasn't about a cornucopia. it was probably JUST a random question...mixed with someone else saying they saw a cornucopia...and your memory honestly don't even picture the fruit even. like, on your own, you probably don't even remember seeing the fruit. you just remember a question with your mother...and you theb inserted the testimonial thoughts of others, and created that image with the cornucopia into your own past thoughts.
Man, I can never get over how much work you put into these videos. 👍🏿 I try making a youtube video and give up after a day.
26 likesI don't think the counterarguments starting at around 04:20 stand up. Half the pictures on that google image search have green and purple grapes, which fall outside the red-brown color palette that the cornucopia was supposedly restricted to seconds later. I found all of those images immediately reminiscent of the FotL logo, which is likely how the memory got suggested (I'm sure similar pictures popped up during school Thanksgiving projects, just as one example).
1 likeThe Capri Sun images did not have the same reminiscence at all to me. I suspect it's a combination of the lack of color variety, the physical arrangement of the fruit, or the existing background details (splashing water).
I see a lot of people theorize that the reason why they remember the cornucopia being there is because they saw that object a lot throughout their childhood during Thanksgiving, but here’s my take…
0 likesI am from Poland, we don’t have Thanksgiving, and I also vividly remember the logo always having that cornucopia being there. In fact, I don’t think I ever see that object anywhere else except when relating to the Fruit of the Loom logo.
When my parents were children, Poland was still mostly under communist influence, and “less technologically developed” than neighboring countries that benefited from things like, I dunno, American TV.
Yet my parents also vividly remember a cornucopia in the logo. A cornucopia is something they strictly associate with the Fruit of the Loom logo…
So this is a seriously strange phenomenon.
Fun fact: In europe, they're known for (low quality) t-shirts, not underwear. Often used in merch products stemming from the 90s/00s.
0 likesI clearly remember it back in the 90s it changed, figured it was a rebrand until it was disappeared forever other than collective memory
0 likesemp can talk about the process of paint drying and i'll still be interested
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I mean... Behr, Sherwan-Willams, and Dupont...
1 likePlease. Please don’t give him any ideas
1 likeI think the golden ratio may be playing a role here. A lot of people agree that the logo looks better with the horn. Describing it as being a more “complete” image. I think the logo is more visually appealing to the human brain with an object about that size in that area.
0 likes4:37 for me thats the answer, every thanksgiving cornucopia has fruit, so the fruit logo must have a cornucopia too
0 likesThe entire video is trying to tell me I misremembered it. I did not misremember it.
2 likesMy school bus drove by a large sign of Fruit of the Loom with the cornucopia in it every single morning and I sat in the same spot seeing it every morning and wondering if it was edible, if it was made out of bread, and what it tasted like. I remember it the exact same way everyone else does. I remember thinking it was just a larger form of those cornucopia shaped corn chips you can fit your fingers in.
The only explanation that I can come up with without questioning reality is that it was an incorrect artistic recreation that added a cornucopia for whatever reason.
But I will repeat: I did not misremember it being there. Yet, 3/4 of this video is about the author alleging it's a false memory and as such I will call this video for what it is: a low effort clickbait.
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artist rendition.
0 likesand. ot to mention you were. a child CLEARLY of an age that didn't quite understand what it was. you could've easily imagined that...and that's what stuck in your memory.
it COULD be that you saw it on an image somewhere else. as kids, we try to relate things. I'm 37 and STILL whenever I see fruit and vegs one or other or both, laid out on a table or platter, I see a "ghost image" of a cornucopia.
have been doing. that since I learned what it was in kindergarten...Thanksgiving nonetheless.
I've done that wjth fruit of the loom as well. I just slap the image on theere.
I don't see it so much as tmjust think, "eh..could be a cornucopia there"
as someone so young, you probably did what I did, and your mind went off on a tanget about it. completely normal for a child of that age
"low effort"
0 likesI remember being a kid and seeing the commercial of the men dressed in the fruit commercials and wondering how they’d make a costume of the cornucopia
0 likesI distinctly remember thinking the cornucopia being the “loom”.
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right?
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yea same, i physically gasped when I saw it wasn't there, because unlike all the other Mandela effects, this one is really different. I haven't really heard of a cornucopia before I knew of the brand, yet I so distinctly remember it with one.
10 likes@The Horizon there's also too much evidence that there's some basis for it. even the screenshot of the dms with the corporate account says some of them remember it
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This man literally just talked about the logo of an underwear brand for 15 minutes
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If anyone can do some research, in 2007 i attended a show in south africa where a band from USA called mad caddies played. I purchased a zip up hoodie with their logo printed in blue and white. I have never in my life seen the fruit of the loom logo before that day but im pretty sure this hoodie had that logo on the inside and i was fascinated by it. I have lost the hoodie but many other people who went to watch the band bought those hoodies
0 likesI do think it's a case of people mistaking the older brown leaves for a cornicopia.
0 likesThe bear thing isn't actually just about the suffix. Some people remember it wrong because there was apparently a knock-off version that used the different spelling. A few people have posted pictures of them online.
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That was one of the few effects that bug me tbh, that and South America and Australia seem to be slightly out of position.
0 likesThis one scares me, because when I realized there was never a cornucopia, I'm pretty sure I was alone. I just found out looking at my underwear one day. It just wasnt there
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Are you by any chance an oneyplays fan?
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2 likesi thought they just switched their marketing.
6 likesI remember buying some new shirts and seeing it without it. I was like, "huh, they removed the cornucopia." I cannot be convinced that it was not there.
2 likes@F-22 Raptor landing zone I only play games with cow physics
0 likesI seem to remember the cornucopia...but I think the confusion may be due to similar images that were popular around Thanksgiving
0 likesI also recall thinking that the Cornucopia was the loom but it's something I haven't thought about until seeing this video
0 likesI don't think the Sun Maid logo having the same legal code cancels out the possibility of a cornucopia in Fruit of the Loom's, or at least it isn't a solid example. You claim that code just gets attached to piles of fruit, which maybe it does but the example you show doesn't support that statement. The code relates to "baskets of fruit; containers of fruit; cornucopia" the sun maid is holding a very shallow woven basket, that's what she's carrying the grapes in. I also can't see something that's specifies "baskets of fruit; containers of fruit; cornucopia" being applied to just a pile of fruit when the Sun Maid's code alone shows two different examples each for bonnets, circles, and triangles. Why would you have two separate codes for bonnets but none for a loose pile of fruit? That doesn't make sense.
0 likesI'm honestly not where I side, I don't remember the logo that well to begin with. What I do find interesting is why parodies would have a cornucopia if the original never did. Was it just adding that detail made it distinct enough that they would avoid getting sued? Was there a big enough parody of it that that's what people are remembering? Because I can see something on a big screen sticking with you better than a tag you see everyday in the back of your underwear.
Woah, that Ant Bully scene explains the issue for me so easily.
0 likes4:00 There's no way 'Cornucopia' is a word used more often than 'heatwave', surely?
1 likeI don’t ever recall a cornucopia being in the logo so this video makes me feel like the main character
0 likesHow do you make such a good, long, interesting video about a cornucopia on an underwear company logo? Idk but I was hooked the whole video
0 likesMy operating theory is that there was an influx of knockoff underwear being sold in Asian-owned dime stores and gas stations during the early 90s. Our family was poor then. If I’m right you’ll find these commonalities: The people who remember the cornucopia were poor in the early 90s, or bought cheap underwear. I recall those briefs wore out quickly and were painful to wear. I distinctly remember the cornucopia.
0 likesTIL "cornucopia" is a more popular word than "heatwave".
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Heatwave is almost always used as two separate words - heat wave
13 likesI think it looks correct because there IS a logo with fruit coming out of a cornucopia. I even remember it was facing the same way, opening to the left. I can't remember what it is though. I thought it was the Country Mart logo but no...
0 likesIt's easier to fool someone than to convince someone they have been fooled
0 likesOut of everything in this video, I’m confused on how cornucopia is used more than heatwave
0 likesWhen I saw the thumbnail my first thought was "wait, does the logo have a cornucopia in it? I thought it was just fruit, am I going insane??? There was never a cornucopia..."
1 likeGrowing up in europe, i connect cornucopias with greek history and making wine out of grapes. And theres grapes in the logo. I didn't have any fruit of the loom clothes as a kid, so i dont remember which version it should be. But it feels like the case with the monopoly man. I, at least connect the fruits in the pic to cornucopia.
0 likesI think this video has some sort of cognitohazard in it, because I used to think it had the cornucopia, but now that I've watched this I can't remember ever thinking it had it except when this is playing.
1 likeIsn't this very adequately and simply explained, by people seeing OTHER images—with the same motif as the FotL-logo—featuring a fucking corn-dog?
1 likeThey literally legally cannot claim that Froot Loops are real fruit and that's why it's spelt with two o's
0 likesOn one hand, I remember the with a cornucopia, on another, I remember there being no cornucopia at all
481 likesSchrodinger's underpants.
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SAME HERE. I remember only fruits being there, but now after seeing the cornucopia, I feel like I remember it being there now and it's freaking me out
32 likes@Alex Thibodeau You probably only remember it being there because you're thinking about it now so your brain subconsciously makes the association.
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0 likesPoggers
0 likesImplanted memories are a thing
0 likesSame with me, it's strange
0 likesFruit loops has changed back and forth on me over my life lmao
0 likes"the score of the falcons before they choked"
1 like21 to 3.
i remember it clearly.
i was so hyped and then they choked.
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0 likesI clearly remember being confused by what a cornucopia was as a child. I remember it in the grocery store. But not on no damned underwear.
0 likesI remember the Cornucopia on the there clothing, it brings back memories of Costco in the early 2010's.
0 likesYou managed to go 9 and a half minutes into this subject without bringing up parallel universes. Amazing. 👍🏻
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1 like@Peach Pie he didnt mention parallel universes until 9:30. a very self explanatory comment
2 likesit might be that the company is called “fruit -of the-“ implying that the fruit is in or from something, and a cornucopia is easier to imagine than say a basket because it’s more lowkey, being positioned behind the fruit
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additionally, a loom is thought of as a very old piece of technology from the days of american cottage industry, and that time period coincides perfectly with the original thanksgiving era we associate cornucopias with
0 likesThere is a german brand called füllhorn, which features a cornucopia, and I kinda associated fruit of the loom with it when I was a kid
0 likesI live in England and the fruit of the loom shirts was what all schools used as there uniforms in the 90s I definitely remember the cornucopia I remember it because I thought it was a bread roll 😂
0 likesOkay so I have a mildly strange theory here but... I think that the logo exists--I'm positive even.
0 likesTo be honest, I think the effect isn't that the logo never existed but that it's just us--people--combining the logos of two different companies.
I remember learning what cornucopias were around Thanksgiving time back when I was in grade school, and that same afternoon we had one of my FAVORITE events--our librarian did magic shows for us and then we got to pick out a book.
That afternoon was a bit weird and new because our teacher challenged us to find all of the seasonal cornucopias we could in the room, and I vividly remember finding that logo and trying to turn it in and the teacher finding it funny.
And honestly, at first I am very willing to jump on the ship that it was indeed a FoTL logo but the more I think about it, the more I remember it having to do with the library itself. I couldn't place why until it hit me after like, an hour.
I wonder if maybe there's a logo for a publishing company or something that has fruit that looks uncannily like the fruit in the FoTL logo? Cornucopias aren't all that different when you look at different paintings of them, so it's not implausible to me.
I'm going to try and dig into this theory, but it's a needle in a haystack that may or may not even exist.
I will never stop shilling EmpLemon, truly one of the best content creators on this platform.
25 likesI SWEAR that there is a cornucopia on Fruit of the Loom clothes in the 2000’s. I remember thinking “what is that thing? is that the loom? fruit of the loom?”
0 likesOf course it’s hard to find it, who is going to keep their fruit of the loom shirts from the early 2000’s? It’s in the trash!
I distinctly remember the cornucopia design specifically being on their shirts, but not underwear.
0 likesno I really believe it was on knock offs. it would make sense why i remember using the packaging as a reference to draw one for a thanksgiving school project. my grandma always shopped at places that sold cheap knock offs for our clothes. they might have been from mexico.
0 likesI'd be curious if anyone outside of North America has experienced this? My guess is people are just associating a fruit display with a thanksgiving cornucopia.
0 likesThis is the most unexpected controversy I've ever encountered
251 likesDude, that memory and underwear comparison was amazing
0 likesIm from Germany. I've never seen Fruit of the Loom underwear but we've had a tote bag from them when I was a kid. Definitely with cornucopia. I'll habe to find it, maybe they printed a different logo on their underwear versus other products.
4 likesI can understand things like Mandela and Kazaam, and I don't believe in universe-sliding or conspiracies, but I am 100% positive it was Beren_stein_ Bears. I explicitly remember getting into an argument about it with another kid in elementary school when we watched the cartoon (he couldn't read well). I don't know how so many people can have "wrong" memories, but there must be something to it.
0 likesThe only reason I know about this company and why I clicked on this video was because I noticed two shirts I used to have had their logo, and now I'm apparently going down a rabbit hole that will change the way I perceive the world around me forever.
0 likesI think the most logical explanation here is that everybody just had shit stains on their Fruit of the Loom tags
1 likeYep at this point it's obvious our consciousnesses have been transferred and it honestly explains a lot
0 likesOk i just figured out Shaws had a logo with a cornucopia shape in one of its signs i didnt think about it but i think its probably the closest thing i can relate to the cornucopia in the fruit of the loom logo.
0 likesOk but just because the fruit of the loom logo has different fruit than fall time doesn’t really mean it’s so weird to remember a cornucopia~
0 likesI had a similar experience with Tyler the creator's album cover wolf were there's a bee, squirrel, and frog on a rock, I swear they didn't use to be there but they are
0 likesI believe the reason we thing there’s a cornucopia in the logo is because it’s brown. When you look at the fruits alone it feels like there’s something missing. The brown from the cornucopia fills the missing colors and makes the drawing feel complete. That’s the art of making good art. Something that feels complete. But since there’s no cornucopia, the logo feels off and unfinished
0 likesI can see this being a misconception from an individual, however if multiple people remember it in the EXACT same way that is pretty convincing.
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multiple people xan do .ath the incorrect way.
0 likesThere was a cornucopia, I refuse to believe it wasn't there. I remember seeing the tag in my underwear when I was little. If many people remember it being there, It had to of been at some point.
1 likeThis is literally just "ZOOMERS DONT KNOW ANYTHING BEFORE SPONGEBOB"
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Hello.
5 likes"Durrr whats a corndacopydia?? durr ronald reagan?? like the actor?? durr durr"
182 likesEy Rusty, hope you're fightin' that pesky alcoholism
37 likes@Rusty Cage Ronald ragen the actor and Ronals ragen the president are the same guy my boomer dude
24 likesOkeys
1 like@Rusty Cage why on earth would a zoomer know ronald reagan as an actor but not as president?
126 likesHi
1 like@_gorillaz freakinc._ they dont teach humor apparently
33 likes@Rabbi Goldberg I mean you can still point out flaws in a joke while still acknowledging that its a joke
23 likesYooooo my guyyyy
0 likes@Rusty Cage jerry lewis??? the vice president???
1 likeYou're very handsome.
0 likes@_gorillaz freakinc._ Did you hear Danny Phantom say that and so you thought you'd repeat it here?
17 likesBut rusty, I’m a zoomer (turning 12 next month :)) and I know so much from before I was born!!! You are generalizing!!! Also I love your knife game videos please make more haha I’ve been watching you since I was 2 :) <3
3 likesberenstein
0 likesyall cringe, arguing over who has the biggest brain or not.
4 likesWe used to beat people up for saying things like that.
How does a cornucopia have anything to do with Zoomers?
2 likes@A52 It’s a joke. An unfunny joke, but a joke nonetheless.
8 likesI wish this was true so I didn't have to see "I'm 12 and I hate my generation xd" on every Pink Floyd video on YouTube ever.
6 likes@Rusty Cage I'm 11 and I don't want to get political or anything: but what the fuck is an oat
14 likesOMG RUSTTY CAGE??? FROM THE KNIFE GAME SONG
0 likes@jonas1015119 That's the joke, no one born after 1980 would recognize him as anything but the 40th president. And it's a joke that was done on Family Guy... Season 5 Episode 18.
1 likeDwag im pretty sure zoomers would know about a lot of shit before 1999 with all the soulless nostalgia shilling of the 90s and 80s in pop culture as of late
6 likesor it could be millenials idfk man
ok boomer
0 likesHey it's that knife song guy
2 likesGrab some popcorn and watch kids try to debate Rusty thinking he's just some shmuck on the internet.
1 like@Richie Demo Everyone is just some schmuck on the internet, having an established channel doesn't give your opinion more weight.
15 likesThat said, he was clearly not making any argument, it was a joke... and so are most of these replies.
@Rabbi Goldberg actually that's you zoomie
0 likesThose be fighting words
0 likeshow the fuck does rusty cage have a checkmark but emp doesn't 🤯
0 likes@Blaster .M Alot of my generation seems attracted to old media aswell as past events because we have easy access to it. The Nostalgia baiting is mainly for Millenials but falls flat.
1 likeOk boome
0 likesThis thread is about as uninspiring and vaguely frustrating as expired dairy
0 likes@Rabbi Goldberg log off and take your meds schizo
1 likeThey only know how to eat hot chip.
1 likeYo rusty what's up
0 likesYup
0 likes@odobenus159 if you're referring to the joke about reagan the actor, i'm highly certain that was done in back to the future, long before family guy
0 likes@tsundereCat [TC] I said it's been done on Family Guy, I didn't say it's the only place it's been done.
0 likesReading comprehension is hard, but I don't know what I'd expect from someone that can't grasp capitalization.
"how dare people not know things that i like it's not like tastes advance when time passes everyone else is wrong"
1 like@Mr. Dead Memes So I am an old millennial born in 81 and I did some research and the fruit of the loom logo never had a cornacopia. I was convinced that it did...but now I realized that it never did.
1 like@Nocturnal Recluse this
0 likeshad nothing to do with the cornacopia
im gonna break my rusty cage
0 likesIt true tho
0 likesat a time i thought it had a cornucopia. looking at it now, the cornucopia seems very out of place in there. either way, i remember seeing it, but i swear it was on the left instead of the right.
0 likesThis still doesn’t explain why the object everyone remembers is a cornucopia
1 likeI remember the cornucopia looking the same but he older version was more wider.
0 likesAny one remember that, that old cornucopia use to be more wider?
Wait, you're telling me that all those capri suns I've had, had no cornucopia on them?
1 likeHonestly, it's probably memory conflation, just not with a similar brand. Fruit of the loom's logo is simplistic and brightly colored, similar to a children's drawing in alot of way. Every year around thanksgiving, young school children are made to color thanksgiving themed pictures, mostly with an assortment of primary colors. It isn't crazy to think that people are conflating the colorings they made as children with a similarly colored logo.
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Yeah, and paintings of fruit in cornucopia were plenty, paintings in general are not hot right now but if they were, people would notice they're conflating the two.
0 likesMe personally, I believe there were some holiday specific logos and the holiday season is when kids are dragged off to buy clothes and gifts in the first place.
It's amazing how people would rather believe they somehow ended up in an alternate universe, where something mundane and simple is different, and not just that they remembered it wrong, because some other people corroborate their story. Never mind that talking about it in an authoritative manner can cause other people to start remembering things differently, making this an unreliable metric.
0 likesFor example, there was a fairly large study done at one time where people were TOLD they say Bugs Bunny at Disneyland as a child. Bugs Bunny has NEVER been a mascot at Disneyland. Many of the participants had never even been to Disneyland in the first place. And somehow, MOST of them were convinced that it happened. Some merely by bringing up the subject, others by the researchers simply being assertive. Only a very small number of people needed a doctored photo (the child in the picture wasn't even the participant).
Ockham's Razor states that the simple and obvious solution is more often than not the correct one. So what's a simpler explanation? That human memory is flawed, or that our minds somehow ended up in another quantum reality?
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yes, human memory may be flawed, as shown in many other mandela effects where we combine similar things or associate them with common things (curious george is a monkey and monkeys usually have tails, sinbad the sailor marathon + kazaam = shazaam, a dash in kit kat just seems logical) but as said in this video, this is different. why would we remember a very uncommon object in the logo if it's the result of our flawed memory? so many people say they remember first learning what it was from the logo, how could they have randomly substituted it in if they didn't know what it was before then?
0 likes13:27 the fact he sat there for like a minute smiling like that is creepy and funny.
0 likesThen again, some guy has made hundreds of videos just sitting in front of a camera and smiling for hours straight each vid so what do I know?
I remember Pikachu's tail being black. I have clear memories of drawing it
0 likesAs an artist, I can tell you that IF there was a cornucopia in this logo, it would be facing the other direction.
0 likesBro I don’t normally believe in these Mandela Effect things but this one is tripping me out fr. I distinctly remember the cornucopia, and learning what it was after I mistook of for a seashell when asking my parents about it as a kid. Wild shit. I think the most likely explanation is that it was really another logo for a different product, and my memory couldn’t remember what it was, so it associated the memory with a similar logo I do remember, and then this same thing has just happened to a ton of people
0 likesthe fruit of the loom is such a normal thing and yet no one even talks about it
0 likesI vaguely remember the cornucopia too, after you pointed it out. Am I crazy??
0 likesI mean I see how people can add the cornucopia to the logo accidentally. Especially during thanksgiving you might think of a variety of fruits or vegetables, or hell even both in a cornucopia.
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40 likesChildren in the USA were and are very familiar with the image of a cornucopia. During Thanksgiving season, many of the activities they did in elementary school were laden with Thanksgiving imagery, which generally included cornucopias.
This would lead to those children associating piles of fruits and vegetables with cornucopias in the same way that they associate monocles with the rich. That would mean that this situation is not dissimilar from the one with the Monopoly Man.
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I was saying that the logo looks like a filled in coloring book and in grade school you'd always do a cornucopia one around Thanksgiving.
4 likesI'm mexican, we don't do that here, and I remember seeing it when I was younger... Idk man
2 likes@Punching Bag Could be you're being influenced by Americans claiming they remember a cornucopia or American media.
4 likes@Go_Rilla26 I'm actually almost certain that's what my memory of asking what that horn thing is. I don't recall having FotL underwear, but I can easily see children associating a pile of plant-grown food with the Thanksgiving decoration after finding them so strange.
0 likesI got internet access until 12, and learnt more fluent English until 18, this year is the first time I've seen that the cornucopia wasn't there (at 23 yo), even though I do see conspiracy videos this year was the first time I saw this being a thing and it really caught my attention because I remember seeing it when I was a kid, not only that but growing up I realized that the logo didn't have the cornucopias 'anymore', but never knew that they didn't exist because as I said, I do remember seeing them in my childhood 🤨
1 likeI had no way of being influenced by american culture when I was younger, no one in my family speaks English, I started learning on my own (14) thanks to internet culture.
I don't want to come off as rude or anything, I'm only saying that I'm in another country, with no american culture influence, and yet here I'm, remembering the cornucopia, even though I called it 'la trompeta café' or 'cuernito' because I didn't know what a cornucopia was until this year.
Anyways, have a nice day, be safe ✌️
Even the people who made the fruit of the loom logo couldve sworn on everything it had a cornocopia
0 likesI remember some company with it and it was funny cause they were trying to copy froot of the loom but there was no point since froot of the loom was cheaper
0 likesI always remember it having a cornucopia but I'm pretty sure I'm mixing it up with the DECA logo.
0 likesI have a shirt from Fruit of the Loom and the fruit logo does not have the cornucopia BUT it does have beige/brown leaves behind the fruits which sort of looks like a cornucopia at a glance. So maybe that could be something?
0 likesThat excerpt from Jerma and Star at the end, making me extremely nostalgic.
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Indeed.
1 likeI just want him to do a Jerma video at this point.
17 likesI remember watching those videos all the time. Man :D
3 likesI'm glad they're friends again
1 like@Doodguy The blank id pay for a never ever about jerma
9 likesI knew thats what i was hearing! Love those boys
0 likes@Greg Brech jerma and star were never mad at eachother
1 likeI cant wait for the star video im sure its happening at somepoint
1 like@rilla fy oh yeah man totally. Any day now.... sob
0 likesUnderwear are the most common piece of clothing that get thrown out so it would be hard if it was a discontinued Logo.
1 like10:07 - Maybe people saw Pikachu's black-tipped ears and misremembered his tail being the same, because it would be a sensible design choice
0 likesWait until someone reads this and realises that every single clip of the Simpsons in this video (and all of EmpLemon's videos) are actually hue-shifted 44% forward towards green.
0 likesThis is so wierd because I literally learned what the word cornucopia meant by asking my dad what that horn on the fruit of the looms logo when I was a kid.
1 likeI'm not into conspiracies but I'm not crazy either
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You're likely just getting some wires crossed. Throughout elementary school every kid sees and draws cornucopia stuff with fruit pouring out. I specifically remember it not being on the tag because I was trying to figure out what the hell a loom had to do with fruit.
1 likeThis really makes you think about just how we really do live in a society.
53 likesAnd then there's me not even knowing they were an underwear brand. I've only ever seen the brand on t shirts - mostly custom ones or merch ones if I remember correctly. Though, these could even be knockoffs
0 likesMysteries are what keep humanity at the edge of their seats
0 likesI do indeed remember asking my parents what the cornucopia was
0 likesI mean, has anyone considered the idea that because the logo itself is tiny and we barely spend a few seconds looking at it in detail that everyone just kinda ended up conflating it with the thanksgiving cornucopia anyway?
0 likesHow EmpLemon makes then most mundane subjects so interesting to watch is a real talent.
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Alec from Technology Connections: "Hold my toaster."
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0 likesIs one of the reasons why people think there was one in the Fruit of the Loom logo. They've seen it and then associate that with the original image when in reality there never was one on the original logo. Just these knock off ones.
How the hell am I fully invested in a video about an underwear logo?
0 likesEmpLemon strikes again.
The reason pikachu is remembered with a black tail is because in the video games pichu, the lower level version had a black tail. Only real gamers would get the mandela because they would conciously see one continuous character through the character designs. Furthermore, if you played the game with pikachu your brain is going to have a more familial connection with the black tip as thats YOUR pichu/ pikachu in your brain. Even more so with the proportion of people introduced to pokemon via the game vs anime, I beleive more millenial peoples, (Not Gen X or Y because they know pikachu more from the anime) when shown a side by side image of correct pikachu and black-tail pikachu, their brain is going to tend to recognize, and rather WANT to recognize the black tip pikachu more as its not only familiar but encouraging and reaffirming.
0 likesI've asked my mother about the cornucopia as a child I remember!!
0 likesI never remembered a cornucopia in the logo. Ironically, now that I've seen this video, ask me in a year and I'll probably swear there was one LOL.
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Exactly what's going on with me lmao.
11 likes@David's piano he's actually gonna do it guys
2 likesMy first thought was that I didn't remember the cornucopia, but it started to look right to me the more I saw it. Something about it just feels intuitive enough to get lodged in people's memory, so you're probably right!
15 likes@Caleb Jablonicky just goes to show how easy it is to fool ppl. Just tell them things used to look a certain way and all of a sudden ppl start thinking that. It’s not very mysterious.
2 likes@S I remembered the cornucopia before I ever saw the Mandela effect version. I honestly have no idea how so many people could have the same experience, I remember wearing Fruit of the Loom underwear as a kid and wondering what that weird horn shape next to the fruit is. I'm not saying it's weird timeline shit but I don't know how to explain that memory and why so many others remember the same thing
0 likes@Hopplar memory is a composite. If someone talks about the cornucopia on the fruit of the loom label then u would naturally add it to ur past memory reservoir. If a person was talking about how their are only apples in the label then u would have been more likely to think that there is only apples in the logo. U don’t memorize random labels 100% correctly and in those margins memories can be slightly guided by the present.
0 likesI didn't even know it was called a cornucopia. I haven't really ever seen one other than on the logo. I call blasphemy! It has always been there!
0 likesMost people under 50 probably don't even know what a loom looks like. Especially since clothing manufacturing these days is mostly done by slave labor overseas.
0 likesSo if those people are misremembering the logo then it isn't much of a stretch to misapply that term to it as well.
The change is a result of quantum dynamics. If you're familiar with the double slit experiment you can change the past. Observation can literally change the result of something after it has already occurred.
0 likesAnother good example of this is people talking about humans producing power in the Matrix. Morpheus holds up a battery and says that what humans are used for by the machines. He then states the machines use a form of fusion for power generation. The scene was pretty clear, but so many people seem to have seen a completely different scene leaving them with the impression humans are used to generate power, rather than store it.
0 likesDamn there’s something poetic about a YouTube pooper discussing underwear.
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Damn, you right.
3 likesDeep.
1 likeAnd there's also something poetic about how your username fits into this.
6 likesPhone Thief lmao true!
3 likes@Phone Thief there's also something poetic about how you said "fits into"
4 likesYou should make one of these where you pretend the one people remember wrong is the actual one
0 likesI think someone just had some fun with a time machine.
0 likesEmpLemon is the only guy who can make a 15-minute interesting video about underwear
0 likesI remember when i was in Poland, were we don’t celebrate thanksgiving, seeing a truck with the fruit of the loom with the cornucopia.
0 likesMaybe the real cornucopia was the friends we made along the way.
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Nice
5 likesYa!
0 likesI don't think a lot of people who would be participating in these discussions would still have their childhood underwear from the mid-80's to show the tag off. That's the main problem. All the examples of tags shown are clearly more recent. That "conversation with your parents about what this object is?" is so specific. I remember it like that too, don't know what else to say.
0 likesi think it's most likely a case of the logo looking complete w/ the cornucopia so we just kinda automatically fill it in
0 likestho, i do remember always thinking cornucopias were called looms when i was younger, even tho i don't rly remember the logo having a cornucopia? idk i don't think we had fotl stuff a whole lot tho
My mom painted a Pikachu on my wall when I was a kid, and it has a black stripe on the end of it's tail. The Pikachu in question came from some Pokemon pajamas that she traced off of.
0 likesThere's a plaza near me with a logo that looks like the fruit of the loom logo with a cornucopia and it took me for ever to realize the difference between the two
0 likesIt’s the brown leaves thing because the green leaves just feels like there’s something missing
0 likesWow I’m in the middle of this video. I must say that
0 likesWow
I never thought that
I always think it’s interesting that the name of the company is a reference to fruit of the womb which is in the hail mary
But I never thought about the cornucopia being there
Now I feel like it’s hard to imagine it not being there
And I never thought of it until the start of the video
Idk, I don’t particularly remember a cornucopia but the image gives off mad cornucopia vibes to me so I could see how people would remember it that way.
0 likesI didn't remember the colored image but the outline logo on the white shirt looked WAY more familiar. Spooky.
1 likeWords can’t describe the anxiety I feel knowing literally every memory I have, regardless of how many people share it, could be fake.
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I remember it with the cornucopia, this is just a new parallel dimension we transferred into where it never existed, but our consciousness still remembers it existing in that last/original dimension.
1 like@Galaxia Stardust Or you just misremembered a very small trivial detail and your brain refuses to believe it’s mistaken. Why do you think courts consider witness testimonies to be useless unless all agree on distinct details en masse? The brain can’t remember every detail precisely even if the situation happened only 5 minutes ago.
6 likes@The Talking Stick Still a possibility.
0 likes@Galaxia Stardust Yea, but the chance of that being the case is lower than the chance of 100 people working together to properly writing a googolplex in 1,000,000 hours. Comparing the near 97% chance that’s backed by undisputed scientific evidence and research studying the human brain and its major flaws (the 2.9999% goes to the chance it does exist somewhere or some time-traveler decided to be a dick and purposely make very trivial changes to brand logos and show names to mess with us), the 0.0001% that only works with the idea that the parallel universe had been born around the same time as ours, and then have to take into factor the chance of particles aligning in a way 1 out of 10^10^122 but then you have to take into the factor of that parallel universe having the exact change of an added cornucopia onto some underwear brand, then finally take into the factor of you remembering this trivial detail from your original universe.
0 likes@Galaxia StardustYeah, and it's just as possible that you just popped into existence seconds ago, or that were all living inside of a turnip.
0 likesPossible, but dumb.
@Brett VV Yeah that is indeed possible! :)
0 likesI had this discussion with some people today about traffic lights. Is the green light on the bottom or top?
0 likesLook at the logo at 7:03, the leaves in the background are BROWN, like a cornucopia, many people might’ve seen the one point on the right and the wide patch of leaf on the left and simply assumed it was a cornucopia without looking much further.
0 likesI actually did wind up with knock off fruit of the loom
0 likesIt was with the cornucopia
I swear, I remember the Western faction in TABS being called the “Wild West” faction, does that count as the Mandela Effect
0 likesThe most jarring part of this phenomenon isn't just imagining that cornucopia is there, but that I picture THAT PARTICULAR render of the cornucopia at 00:33. When you phased it in, it was exactly the way I'd imagined it.
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How can you be sure that the way you pictured it before you saw the video was more vague and the video only filled in the blanks? Memory is only meant to keep you alive long enough to make some babies, and your brain often fills in the blanks with newly acquired information while seeming like that’s what you thought all along.
15 likes@Shaun Enwright And that's what makes it so eerie. It felt strangely satisfying to see that particular design phased into the graphic. I wonder if I would have felt the same had he, say, uploaded a photo-realistic image of a cornucopia instead.
16 likes@Brock Beard I know right! I swore I saw that exact cornucopia......my brain hurts
2 likes@Brock Beard
6 likesThats cause the cornocopia is drawn in the same artstyle as the rest of the logo. If your filling in the blanks of a piece of art, it would naturally be in the same style.
I too saw this but mirrored, so the cornucopia on the left side
0 likesi think around this time computers were becoming mainstream with more homes having a desktop PC most of those had a word processor or even had cd's with 1000s of clipart images in them. it was one of the only ways to spruce up a school project before the internet. Could people be recalling these as I can remember seeing this cartoon image for harvest or thanksgiving.
0 likesThe most fucked up thing is I remember vividly being a kid looking at the cornucopia behind fruit of the loom logo and not knowing what it was supposed to be
0 likes“We always have it on unless were very intoxicated.” I need to use that out of context
0 likesIt's a thanksgiving decoration confusion! Happy Turkey Day!!
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33 likesI can't believe "cornucopia" is more common than "heatwave".
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I know right? I know I've used the word "heatwave" in conversation, but definitely not cornucopia.
6 likesmisleading because many people probably type it as "heat wave" or "heat-wave"
1 likeI'm thinking it might have to do with the fruit of the loom logo have a similar art style as coloring book drawings that could have involved cornucopias many of us may have colored in as kids, but that could also just be my own experience as midwestern white dude lol
0 likesHella late to the video but I felt it could have to do with the leaves being orange back in the day, we saw the tone behind the fruit and our kid brains filled in the cornucopia
0 likesI SWEAR ON BOTH OF MY KIDNEYS that the logo used to have a cornucopia, i find myself to have very good memories of growing up in the early 2000s and i distinctly remember asking my mum what it was
0 likesIs it possible it was just in something else? Like some kind of random image teachers would put on Thanksgiving homework. That would explain why people remember asking there teachers
0 likesMr. President, EmpLemon's here to give you a brief.
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Damn i didnt think you will be here welcome
43 likesHey Shuck, how’s the stop motion going
10 likesClimb up the ladder if you want another go. Otherwise come over to the monitors for a debrief.
8 likesLike a Lemon he just brings the coolest (and weirdest) people to him
3 likesI thought the president wears boxers?
4 likes@Delirious _Z9 bruh shuck constantly makes downwards spiral and emp jokes lol
14 likesNgl fruit of the loom sounds like a Steven Spielberg book or movie.
0 likeszuccminster
1 likeHow’s the vtubing going shuck? Have you managed to convince Nux to join you yet?
2 likeswell this is a bruh moment
0 likesThe monopoly guy’s name is actually rich uncle penny bags
0 likesYou really socked that pun at me.
0 likes@Doofus and emp on several occasions said he hates anime and will try to avoid people watching it
1 likeEmplemon: top Youtuber among turtle audiences
0 likesLadies and gentlemen, the Shuck has entered the building.
0 likesTake my like and get out
0 likesThe shuck has arrived
0 likesI like how everytime a popular creator leaves any comment they get swarmed to no end
1 likeDamn dude you're everywhere in the videos I watch lmao
0 likesIs this code or something
0 likesIs that a...
0 likesMore like to give him a pair of briefs 😂
0 likesBut is the threat real?
0 likes@Al Ease Not anymore, thankfully, but this new guy looks like he'll be almost as shit.
0 likesThe design for pikachus tail has changed over the years
1 likei was born in 2006 and so grew up wearing fruit of the loom clothes, and whenever i saw the logo i remember seeing the fruits and no cornocopia, but thinking 'oh wheres the basket thing? did they change the logo?'wierd
0 likesIf I was transferred to a parallel universe I wish I would have been transferred to one I'm truly happy in.
0 likesWhen I was younger I always thought the cornucopia was a horn or "the loom" on the logo
1 likeOut of all the channels on YouTube, you're probably the most YouTubey youtuber. Seriously, not only were you a YouTube poop channel reletively early on in YouTubes life, but your a meme channel, commentary channel, and a respected creator. There will never ever be another youtuber like Emperor Lemon.
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couldn't've said it better myself
1 likeI'm more of a Hanes man now, but yes, back when I did wear Fruit of the Loom I remember the cornucopia...
0 likesThis reality doesn't contain that version of the image. When you die you enter seamlessly another instance of reality. You might get a feeling of "deja-vu" when it happens but that's it. Quantum immortality.
0 likesBerenstein Bears isn't an example of the Mandela Effect. That is the actual name of the family of bears in one of the sources of media they are portrayed in: Either the videos or the comics. And Berenstain is the name of the family in the other.
1 likeA cornucopia is a common enough object, at least in the United States, it's a central piece of Thanksgiving iconography and cornucopias often include fruits like apples and grapes so it visually kind of makes sense, sense enough that several parodies of the logo decided to add one to differentiate from the brand while still obviously referring to it, these parodies would then reinforce the idea that there was ever a cornucopia in the original logo to begin with as people's memories would consolidate the two. Also, you would think that with the logo being on the inside of peoples’ underwear it would be a sure thing to remember but a shocking number of individuals tune out skidmarks in their undies so do you really expect that people would pay that kind of attention to the print on the inside band?
0 likes"Enjoy the Now" is the best moral to this mundane topic. And I'm gonna enjoy my Thanksgiving, shutdown be damned.
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Yolo I guess.
0 likesHopefully while obeying lockdown rules, right?
2 likesI'm watching this video thinking "I can see why people might misremember this, it feels like they SHOULD have put a cornucopia there"
0 likesThen you say people remember calling them "looms"
I USED TO CALL IT A LOOM
shit
It must have been my memory that gave me false recollections of Saddam's nuclear weapons, the Jessica Lynch story and Assad gassing his own people whilst winning a war.
0 likesThis Mandela effect has a lot to answer for
I always heard about the Mandela effect but never experienced it until this.
0 likesI’m pretty sure the brain is just interpreting the word ‘loom’ in the name into an image.
0 likesthe cornucopia has a whole other connotation on the other side of the ocean, in Europe, and if often thought of as a symbol for spring, fresh fruit in abundance in often depicted with it! it stems from a plethora of ancient myths of one with an infinity large inside but a finite and handy-format outside, being filled with infinite fresh fruits. myths containing the cornucopia are found on all part of Europe, from Scotland and Norway to Hungary and Spain
21 likeswhen using a corporate logo and not wanting to pay you might turn a pile of fruit into a cornucopia of fruit; it's distinct but obvious. perhaps our memories came from seeing this version of the logo in media
0 likesI bought a People magazine in the supermarket last week with the headline “Betty White Turns 100!” Obviously she passed (RIP) after some deadline in the production process. I plan to put it away for now and in a couple of years I will bring it out and convince stupid people that I have evidence of an alternate reality.
0 likesNah i never remember seeing a cornucopia, but i will say that it fits and i think the reason why people remember it is because of the thousands and thousands of pictures painted of fruit, i forget what its called but fools but drawing fruit w cornucopia for hundreds of years and thats not a exaggeration. Im assuming by connecting the dots there
0 likesI'm just gonna guess that most of the memories come from that album cover.
0 likesI swear the Simpsons used to be yellow, Mandella strikes again? Or is this a TIMELINE SWAP
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Claiming the “called it” bragging rights when someone inevitably gets r/whooooshed.
9 likesWhy aren't the Simpsons green?
3 likesNope your crazy
0 likes@Ethan Satcher r/wooooshed CARD, ACTIVATE!!!
1 likethis is a bit of a stretch, ive always remembered them being green
3 likes@Surogou Yeah, they were green!
1 likeI remember them being pink
2 likes@ShardTheDDon you bring shame to emp's comment section. surely by now you must be aware of his great disdain for your reddit kind
7 likes@ShardTheDDon reddit is a lot better than https://www.twitter.com. You're right
0 likes@ShardTheDDon obviously an attempt to get on r/rareinsults
8 likes@Australian Anarchist Seriously man, Reddit is far from the worst things to love.
0 likes@ShardTheDDon and? still cringe
5 likesYou're wrong, man. They've always been green. Don't know what reality you've grown up in.
0 likes@ShardTheDDon both cringe af tbh
1 like@ShardTheDDon r/wosh OP was joking
0 likes@ShardTheDDon at first I thought you were being ironic but then you kept going...
1 likeReddit is a plague that I'd give anything to exterminate
In other news, I picked the right penny, even verifying it with one from my spare change container before seeing that the video reveals it.
0 likesafter years of forgetting to wear underwear, putting on fruit of the loom undergarments... seemed wrong.
1 likewhere the fuck is the cornucopia?
I think it's just the design looks lacking, and the cornucopia completes it. So we just complete it in our brains, I can't tell you how many fruit with cornucopia pictures I have seen in my elementry school during November. So is it hard to believe that we just assume it had a cornucopia because it feels better
0 likesOne thing I want to point out is how often do you look at your underwear? You don't, so even if there was one fluke printing with the cornucopia on it, you wouldn't remember it, so it must've been long times of printing.
0 likesI actually remember a cornucopia for fruit of the loom.
0 likesPeople probably remember jokes with cornucopia better than the everyday product itself. This is how conceptual art works.
0 likesIt had to be knock-offs. Seems most reasonable explanation to me.
0 likesA simple google search will show there WAS a cornucopia! I just did a 5 second google search and found many images of both!
0 likesHow do you come up with these videos 😭
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Its kinda scary how random but good the topics are
53 likesit's made with passion and love for talking about this kind of stuff. if you keep it random and interesting then people will never get tired and they'll always keep coming back for more. there is a lot of obscure stuff we don't know about, and uncovering those topics for us to learn is intriguing. that's why many creators like making these kinds of videos.
26 likes4chan
2 likesProbably just looked at r/MandelaEffect and made a good Thanksgiving connection.
6 likesMandela effect has been a thing for so many years
5 likesHe said it in the beginning, he asks his viewers for topics.
2 likesYour profile picture still doesn't look right to me...
0 likes@SleepyRaccoon it looks weird on the thumbnail of my second most viewed vid
0 likes@Bandstand happy thanksgiving brah
0 likeshow are you everywhere
0 likesDon't ask that question again, that was the dumbest goddamned question - I'll tell ya where he got his ideas - RALFS. OK? That's where he got em...
0 likesI'm from Mexico and I can state that we are not familiar with cornucopias neither with brands names or adds from "fruit of the loom" so, our mind are not jaded by the media
0 likesBut I remember the logo and the cornucopia while buying underwear, I guess it might be counterfeits
We live in a multi-verse where realities have collapsed into each other, some of us originated from one reality while others were from another, who knows how many there are or how many have merged.
0 likesI can swear I remember it in the 90s not on the tag but on the plastic wrappers of the shirts and underwear. But I could be totally wrong it has been 20 years...
0 likesThere was a grocer in my area as a kid called produce junction that has a cornucopia in its logo. That's my personal explanation
0 likesBecause it looks better with the cornucopia, it makes the logo feel "complete". I think our brains know there is no cornucopia, but choose to add it simply because it feels right
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also people hear other people remember something specific, and since they don't have a strong memory of said thing they accept the other person's version of events
29 likesEXACTLY there's just something about the logo design and the placement of the fruits/leaves that leave that top right corner uncomfortably open so our mind wants to fill it in with something distinct to the rest of the image.
39 likesI never even knew what a cornucopia was until I saw the logo years ago. Why would I put something there I don’t know about.
21 likes@magica I remember years back seeing the logo and asking my mum what the basket was at the back, she told me it was a cornucopia. That’s how I came to know the word.
10 likes@magica for me it’s the same thing. Like a lot of people I thought the cornucopia was called the loom. It’s just creepy how it’s not there anymore and I remember it so vividly.
11 likesThat's what I thought. I don't remember the cornucopia, but when he added it I was like "huh maybe there was a cornucopia?" But I think it's just because, like you said, looks more complete with it there.
8 likesI really don't think it works like that. Now, I'm 14 years old and have never owned Fruit Of The Loom underwear, so my thought process might not have been altered in such a way that causes me to think that. But anyways, I really don't think the brain would edit something in just because it feels "right". As the Emperor himself said, many of the Mandela Effects are chalked up to common details being altered. The brain's autocorrect would need to, by nature, expect a cornucopia where there is none. Merely adding a cornucopia because it feels "right" wouldn't make sense.
9 likesI don't think this is the answer, and the video itself succinctly sums up why; it's too uncommon of an object for people to naturally assume it's there, let alone discover the object because of the logo. It's nothing as insane as parallel universes, I don't believe in the Mandela Effect, but that isn't a logical answer when applied practically.
4 likesBeing a zoomer you would have zero memory of there being a cornacopia in the logo, so such a logic would be easy for you to accept.
0 likesHow does that make any sense? I and many others distinctly remember as a kid asking our parents what the cornucopia was
1 likeHow did I add an object to an image that I didn't know existed? There has to be an even better logical answer for all of this
0 likesThat doesn’t make sense though, I’ve never heard of this thing aside from the logo itself.
0 likesThere WAS a cornucopia.
2 likesnatures photoshop
0 likesI just remember asking my mom what the thing behind the fruit was called and she told me it was a cornucopia.
0 likesTheory: A little poop went conveniently in the area of the cornucopia and stained it
0 likesThe one Mandela Effect thing that still gets me is Dolly not having braces in "Moonraker"
0 likesThe cornucopia looks familiar ish but honestly so do the fruits alone. This one doesn’t weird me out that much, I don’t know why.
0 likesI didn't know what a cornucopia was when I was a kid, but I know it was there.
0 likesYou would have to be a world class headass to believe that it was “Flinstones” instead of “Flintstones”
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I much prefer FLEENTSTONES
76 likes@Marzipancutter GRAND DAD?
38 likes@BananaCat 310 FLEENTSTONZ? UGHHHH
15 likesConic GRAND DAD? GRAND DAD?
8 likesthe one on the left is centered better, i had to stare at it for a whole minute to see it, i was looking at freds hair and clothing, and the thing i was looking for was right in front of me
8 likesit’s because we pronounce flintstones as flinstones, that’s why people automatically processed it as flinstones
10 likesyeah, a lot of Mandela Effects are just this
3 likesI can kind of understand it. Whenever someone says the word "Flintstones", they seem to pronounce it "Flinstones". It's very rare to hear someone actually pronounce the "t", or at least in my experience it has been. So I could totally picture someone trying to write the word "Flintstones" but spelling it phonetically and not writing in the "t"
0 likesTheir name is literally a Stone-Age object/tool; only a very young kid who was unfamiliar with the term would remember the misspelling
2 likes"World class headass" got me weak 💀
5 likes@Marzipancutter GRAND DAD
0 likesi only remember thinking it was "flinstones" as a kid when my mom would give me those flintstones vitamin gummies, i never really saw the bottle and only heard her say it and since we're from america and americans barely pronounce the letter "T" she pronounced it like "flindstones," and i never really watched the show so i never saw the name on TV. as soon as i got a bit older though i saw that it was "flintstones" and i was like "yeah that makes sense, cause cavemen made things out of flint stones"
1 likeAgreed 100%
0 likesI will never give up on the cornucopia, the other "mandela-effect" memory differences are easily explainable but I've never found resolution for the cornucopia... not even this video. The search continues...
0 likesI literally learned what a cornucopia was because I asked what the brown thing was when I was a little kid. I assumed the cornucopia was removed to modernize the logo, but this is way weirder
0 likesHoly shit that jerma and ster twilight zone bit got me, I remember that tf2 video. Great video man!!
0 likesIts crazy i still cant help to think theres something missing
0 likesEvery Fruit of the Loom logo is personalized
11 likesI remember specifically thinking it was weird there was a cornocopia because it wasnt a lume.
0 likesI specifically remember the cornucopia that’s super strange
1 likeThat little smiling friends clip got me excited for smiling friends.
0 likesi will point out that the mock-up cornucopia is not in the same art style: the line thickness is different; the pen strokes have line weight; the "shading lines" on the fruit run horizontally, but on the cornucopia they are random; the cornucopia has shading (on the inside), but nothing else does
0 likesMissed opportunity not putting the downward spiral logo on the bottom of the mug so you can get sucked in every time you take a drink
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+Westles your profile picture is scary.
2 likesThis is the one ME I can not be swayed on. It’s pretty upsetting lol.
1 likeI have a plain white shirt from fruit of the loom and I don’t know where I got it from given that there’s no places in London that I know of that would sell fruit of the loom, but I also only remember the logo with a curnocopia despite seeing it quite often
0 likesThe mundane... But having conversations in the past about things that apparently never existed? I remember having a conversation about this very subject BEFORE the internet was there to share in the wisdom of "you rely on your mind to remember? FOOL!" I get it, our reality is very much subjective but when things that were are not anymore then are we allowed to question? It seems not. I remember a time when the news was terrible about everything and politicians were thieves and bad guys yet some people remember better days; I think they're nuttier than a cornucopia filled with fruit.
0 likesWhen is fruit ever grouped like that except for a cornucopia?
0 likesI feel like Emplemon could make a 4 hour long video about paint drying and I would still watch the whole thing
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Factss
1 likeas long as it has his trademark narration and/or editing, of course
2 likesWhich map will stand the test of time?
0 likesGreat, now he has a good idea for an april fool's joke video.
2 likesI remember in grade school I got a pair of hand me downs that I very clearly remember having a cornucopia. I'm going to go looking for them again, perhaps there was an off brand fruit of the loom underwear that happened to have a cornucopia and people are simply misremembering the names?
1 likethe only thing I can think about that could have done it would be kids confusing it with those thanksgiving colouring things you do in kindergarten. but that wouldn't explain the 60s or 70s.
1 likefruit of the loom made my school uniform from around 2011 and I'm certain it had a cornucopia on it, ill have to find it
0 likesI think here in Canada, we had knock off brands which may have used a cornucopia
0 likesThis is like the Office episode where they forget if Stanley has a mustache or not
23 likesnobody ever considered that the cornucopia is just a doo doo stain ?
2 likesa parallel universe / timeline? no that's just ridiculous. clearly the most logical answer is we are living in a simulation and during an update some legacy graphics and scripts were altered (compatibility? accident?) but the user data conversion failed and was reverted, which is why it loads in erroneous data that doesn't exist... because it doesn't exist anymore
0 likesThe Berenstein bears always made me wonder why they had a jewish name. I wouldnt have thought that about Berenstain....just my recollections...and the reason we cant find anything with the cornucopia is we slipped into the parallel universe where it never was.
0 likesI think I thought the corniwefion was there because the grocery store near me had a similar fruit pile and cornicoposdidif
0 likesAll I'm saying is that it DEFINITELY jad a cornucopia
0 likesI only remembered the cornucopia, I didn't remember fruit being in it.
0 likesthe ending of this is great.
0 likes9:30
1 likeThat is literally the creator of Mandela Effect's explanation for their own phenomenon. Which is a shame because the Mandela Effect is so interesting! The human brain is so interesting and the Mandela Effect is a great example of that but it just HAD to be named by a nutjob.
The craziest thing and the most baffling thing to me is that I myself am from Mexico, I remember the Fruit Of The Loom brand logo having a cornucopia and here in Mexico cornucopias are not much of a thing, in fact you will barely ever see any representation in media, advertising, seasonal products, products in general, not even physically a cornucopia, WE DON'T EVEN CELEBRATE THANKSGIVING FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!
14 likesThere aren't really any celebrations around fall/autum festivities like in the USA and there isn't a culture of Thanksgiving day here, the only real festivity around that season is The day of the dead (Día de Muertos) and there is no use of cornucopia nor many of the same parafernalia/symbols used in Halloween, harvest celebrations, Thanksgiving, as in the US, you can look it up. Cornucopias are a very European element or an element/ornament of very throroughly Europeanized cultures, really.
So cornucopias are pretty much a foreign concept and a foreign thing, both figuratively and literaly over here, even in large cities (I live in the second largest metropolitan area of Mexico) they aren't common, so it is pretty amazing how many of us remember there being a cornucopia on the Fruit Of The Loom logo.
I remember as a child my grandparents or my mom giving me underwear with the cornucopia logo and even the packaging, either cardboard boxes or bags having the same logo, (no, I'm pretty sure they weren't knock-off brands) and other people does remember them too, buying them from large store chains like Wal-Mart, Aurrerá, Soriana, Gigante, La Comercial Super / Mega / Hiper, Superama, Carrefour, etc. so I'm pretty sure they weren't pirate copies or anything like that, those are the things that the average person remembers...
...I even remeber at one point in elementary not knowing what it was and discoverung both at school from teachers and with my family, confirming what it was.
I remember that my mom told me what it was a "horn of abundance" in Spanish: "cuerno de la abundancia" and although the same name applies to it, "cornucopia", in Spanish, it is so uncommon here that most people either don't know the word itself or don't know what it means and don't know that's the name of them; I'm pretty sure a lot of people doesn't even know them, what they are, what purposed they're suppose to serve if they ever encounter one.
So yeah, as a kid I didn't even know what they were, the cornucopias, and I was also curious about what they were, what was that thing on the Fruit Of The Loom logo after seeing them so many times in their logo, but still the only place I can recall where I had seen it at that time and all the way to my teenage years was in that logo distinctively and nowhere else in fact, I am pretty sure of it because it was weird and unlike anything else I had seen before on any brands, logos, advertisement, commercials.
I know that I'm going off and rambling about but I want to make very clear that I was a kid in elementary and as a kid outside of the USA I did't have any other possible point of reference or contamination from any other source and that this is a very particular case in which I'm very positive we couldn't have confused that element with anything else, another very important point regarding this is that I know what a lot of you will say that maybe we saw them on the internet or through a website, video or some sort of content on the web and we mixed them up or confused them or something of that nature, but I am talking about my childhood growing up in Mexico in the 90s and early 2000s, at that moment in time the internet was barely taking off in every world market and it wasn't the thing that it is today, besides, in Mexico the computer use per capita has never matched that of the USA for example and not many people back then owned a computer or had internet service, I didn't even have a simple basic cellphone until I was 13 or 14, I'm sure. (and with no access to internet either.)
In fact since it is so uncommon and nobody ever uses it an everyday context here in Mexico, I hadn't heard of the word "cornucopia" until I was a teenager and I was discovering Black Sabbath's music and I learnt the title of the Volume 4's song: "Cornucopia" and I looked it up (it's meaning), so yeah, it's not like everyone knows what a cornucopia is, not even its name sometimes and still people remembers it being on that logo at least.
What I'm saying is that it is pretty astounding to me that it's not an isolated incident to the US peope and that even people like myself with a different culture, upbringing, background have a memory of this against all odds and regardless of all the evidence to the contrary...
...And although it is very convoluted to think that there's a conspiracy behind these phenomena or that there are alternate realities or dimesions and glitches within the fabric of our existenced having to do with this, I think it is very convoluted and conformist (and dare I say even negligent to some extent) in the same way just to deny, disregard all these discrepancies and just play it off as a false memory, a faulty collective dellusion or a mistake, since so many people in so many different cultures, with different backgrounds and upbringings have the same recollection of things even under very different circumstances and conditions.
I honestly thought there were more fruits, like a banana and an orange...
0 likesA "Dé·jà-vu", in simple terms is a memory that is written into long term memory at the moment we experience it. So it feels very weird as we experience AND remember it at the same time.
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A "Dé·jà-vu", in simple terms is a memory that is written into long term memory at the moment we experience it. So it feels very weird as we experience AND remember it at the same time.
0 likesI didn't know what a cornucopia was at the time but I still remember it
1 likeI think by far the weirdest thing about this is the use of the cornucopia in media depictions of the logo like did those people not check what the logo looked like did it not come up with a cornucopia and they all remember the exact same thing in the exact place
0 likesThe cornucopia by itself looks unusually scary
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It's like a vessel of infinite emptiness.
0 likesSpooky.
Yeah I’m lying in bed and when imp showed the cornucopia I covered up more
0 likesThe Mandela effect is terrifying if real. If reality can change and constantly is. I wonder if under string theory if something like this could actually be possible. Who would of thought time travel was possible. Or that quantum entanglement can send information MUCH faster than the speed of light. Seemingly breaking the laws of physics. The Universe is a strange interesting place.
0 likesWhat about knock off’s…Bootleg…. fakes?
0 likesI went to a lot of flea markets as a kid….and it seems like most of my family ended up with loads of socks, underwear, hats, undershirts… Shit like that.
Obviously they were either factory overruns, errors, but mostly just knock off’s 😁
Had a t-shirt form that brand 20 years ago and it was very uncommon where I live so I remembered it better than other low cost brand trags and it didn't have the cornucopia :srhug:
0 likesI like how you went full RedLetterMedia at the end 😅
0 likesYou know what’s funny?
9 likesThe Cornucopia design of the logo looks nicer and makes the logo looks more full overall.
The cornucopia was on the cardboard label attached to the garment. It was most definitely there. Many people still have the garment but it was not on the garment, how many people kept the throwaway cardboard tag?
0 likesThis still gets me because I genuinely swear, I learned what a cornucopia was because I asked what that cone thing was on the logo. Like there's no evidence that I didn't misremember this but I really don't believe that I did 😭 like it's not really common to see one in any other context. Extremely weird
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OTHER PEOPLE DID THIS TOO?? That's so wild! I hadn't ever heard of someone else having such specific recollections
0 likesThe tagless fruit of the loom logo should be colorful as the logo stickers are. They should bring the Banana back to the logo, add a cornucopia, and bring back the blue and yellow waistbands.
0 likesAs a latino person, I can confirm that looney was tunes, cuz I remember I spelled incorrectly like "too-neh-s" cuz I didn't know what means
0 likesEmp is the only person in this barren land that can keep my attention for 20 minutes while talking about underwear.
9 likesThe actual explanation-
1 likeMillions of people were all mistaking millions of individual, coincidental shit marks near the logo with a brown cornucopia.
The logo looks normal to me with the cornucopia and without it.
2 likesmakes sense the cornucopia is in the films and album cover because it has to be different because of copywrite, giving a reason for its existence.
0 likesThis is the only instance of the Mandela Effect that gets me.
1 likeI think memory is designed to be useful, not accurate, and there’s less overlap than we’d like to think.
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That’s a great point. We use our memory differently than any creature ever before.
1 likeI often wind up with uselessly accurate memories. This checks out.
0 likes@Nathan the God-Fearing
0 likesAccurate, detailed or vivid? They're three different things.
@Klobi for President Accurate, but not especially detailed or vivid. My memory usually works a lot better for text and textures/sensations of touch than it does for images or sound. And lots of details people just take for granted as easy to memorize (faces, names, and voices) I tend to greatly struggle with.
0 likes@Nathan the God-Fearing
0 likesHighly accurate, low detail memories of written text? So you're good at remembering the gist and remembering it properly but the finer details are blurred?
@Klobi for President Yes. And I remember most pictures I've seen and liked or disliked enough to remember at all as an accurate but not especially detailed written description of them. I remember most conversations of note as accurate but not especially detailed textual transcripts of the gist of the discussion.
0 likesOkay I've never heard of the NZ Mandela effect before haha! I think we can chalk that one up to poor geography education
0 likesI had a few shirts that were printed on fruit shirts and I swear there was a basket on it...
0 likesGod damn it. I saw the logo at a Burlington Coat Factory in Las Vegas, NV when I was around 10 years old. I have a very distinct memory of being bored while shopping with my family and I was pawing through underwear and each one had that cornucopia logo on it, exactly as depicted here.
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It wasn't EXACTLY as depicted. It was a darker brown with tighter circles that were better suited for embroidery.
0 likesNot to beat a dead horse here...but the Sinbad genie movie is something that I can remember happening. My mom used to buy old movies from Ebay (when Ebay was just getting big) and I can remember her buying Kazaam with Shaq. I remember us talking about the movie with Sinbad because they were so similar and released around the same time. Also when the movies "A Bugs Life" and "Antz" came out I can remember discussing how similar this was to when Shaq and Sinbad both had genie movies. This is the only mandela effect that I can relate to, other than misremembering when Nelson Mandela died (I thought I remember being taught he died in prison in school and thinking how sad that was, but that is probably my brain making up stuff after hearing about the phenomena). But with Shazaam I can distinctly remember two separate conversations I had about a movie that apparently never existed.
0 likesSo when I saw this video, I was like "Oh, Emp is probably tackling something about the company" and then 30 seconds in, I realized, "Oh wait, this is Emp."
32 likestheory: there was a bootleg brand of fruit of the loom and THAT used the cornucopia
0 likesWhenever a Mandela effect is discussed there should be 2 fake Mandela effects mentioned as well as I could be convinced chucky e cheese was green and wore a top hat if someone said a lot of other people remembered it that way.
0 likesI think as a kid I thought this logo had a cornucopia because there was this local grocery store near me whose logo had a bunch of fruits with a cornucopia. So…
0 likesIt's simple, cornucopia is associated with pile of fruits/food. Then, we add it to pile of fruits.
0 likesEmplemon is a blessing to this website
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@Egg T you can say that again
5 likesYeah, he is. Amazing content.
0 likesI hope he makes a video about my name jeff.
0 likestru
2 likeson fucking god
2 likes@TheSamuel Quality content is not what we see often
1 likeWhen I was little for Thanksgiving we made a drawing of a cornucopia with fruit in it that's probably why I thought their was a cornucopia in the logo
0 likesI remember it exactly like that. Insane
0 likesI have an anchor memory to the cornucopia being there. This is the ONLY Mandela effect that I can’t get a hold of. Shazam and Chic Fil A kind of get me, but I get it. That being said, the cornucopia was there, and it is EXACTLY the one that they show on here. Who made it?!? The person who mocked this up remembers the real one.
0 likes"Oh, grapes, an apple...what the hell is THAT supposed to be? Tobacco?"
1 like"Both memory and underwear and both doomed to be permanently stained by something we don't quite understand"
0 likesi had to post this just because its too good lmao
ISTG FRUIT OF THE LOOM WAS HOW I LEARNT THE WORD I was shopping with my dad and I pointed to that logo and asked “hey what’s that thing called” and he said “oh that’s one of those cornucopia things Americans use during thanksgiving”
1 likeSinbad dressed so terrible that we all had no choice but to remember him as a genie.
0 likesThe New Zealand Mandela effect is true. We used to sit above Australia but we got bored and it was too hot up there. So decided to row the old girl down next to Antarctica and save on AC. Sorry for the confusion 😕
0 likesI REMEMBER THE CORNUCOPIA. After learning about this a couple years ago it has cast a tint of doubt over my reality that I can never scrub clean
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First time?
2 likesi remember my childhood friend's voice sounding the same as he does now except we were 10
3 likesIn regards to the Berenstain Bears, even the tv show pronounces it -stine while still spelling it correctly: https://youtu.be/7h8jqEs_8kA
0 likesI’ve always seen the the cornucopia until now… interesting
0 likesIts been over 5 years since 'cornucopia' was said in my brain
0 likesi remember the day i learned what a cornucopia was, and then going home and seeing the tag like “ohhh that’s what that brown object is”
0 likesOH FUCK, that parody album cover really made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Why would it make any sense to parody something that wasn't there?!
0 likesEveryone I know adds the cornucopia when asked specifically, but that may just be the power of suggestion
0 likesThis video when showing other examples just made me realize I had been Mandela Effecting thr Flintstones into the Flinstones.
0 likesMandela Effect is a term that describes a collective misremembering of names, places, events, etc. It is named after the collective misremembering of Nelson Mandela being a heroic revolutionary and not a sadistic murdering terrorist.
0 likesI know it's not even close to the first time your face has been made known but it feels interesting seeing it in such a recent, modern-Emp style (if you so will) video. Anyways, like what the more reputable channels are saying, you really do find a way to make any topic interesting, I was slapping myself this whole video at some of the brand examples you showed. Great content as always, and keep it up.
3 likesAre you really trying to tell me that “Cornucopia” is a more common word than “Heatwave”? Yeah, ok.
0 likes>memory is like underwear
1 like>its with on us everyday with the exception unless we're extremely intoxicated
Has anyone connected misremembering the monopoly guy having a monocle to the scene in ace Ventura where he says to a bald old guy with a mustache and monocle “you must be the monopoly guy” so then we automatically assume the monopoly guy had a monocle too
0 likesAs a non-american, I always remember them as the logo on my school gym shirt.
0 likesall i can say is there is still change happening. watch out for the subtleties.
0 likesMr Monopoly is actually named "Mr Moneypenny"
0 likesThe more you know
I’m a simple woman.
0 likesI see JEB!, I keep watching.
4:20 you, sir, come from an education system and society deprived of classical art.
0 likesI specifically remember the fruit and cornucopia logo on a store, we'd drive past it a lot when I was a kid. I'm not actually sure what they sold or what it was called but I remember associating it with the brand Fruit of the Loom and thinking "huh, so that's a loom?"
3 likesI choose to believe that the FotL logo has a cornucopia in an alternate universe, and that we're all seeing glimpses of that.
0 likesThis video ruined my life, thank you Emperor Lemon
0 likes“A movie that everyone remembers if you’re over 20 years old” welp me being 20, makes sense why I don’t remember it then
0 likesMe watching this video:
0 likes“Wait…Kit Kat doesn’t have a hyphen?”
I didnt even know what a cornucopia was but I literally remember it
0 likesMaybe there was some Hitler-esque person that was inspired by the cornucopia in fruit of the loom in some way. Then time travelers realized if they go back in time and somehow manipulate the designer to not include the cornucopia they can prevent this individual from gaining power to do harm. ... obviously I'm not serious but I always think of this sort of situation when I hear of mandella effect things.
0 likesWhen rusty started ranting, he kinda sounded like the nerd
0 likesSome people reeeeeeeeally don't want to admit that their memories are fallible and primed to respond to peer pressure.
0 likesThis dude is able to turn literally ANYTHING into the most fascinating and interesting thing in the universe
3 likesTim Hortons had a donut box with a cornucopia on it, I wonder how many people with the discrepancy are Canadian?
0 likesI think I solved it. Bootlegs. What if there were a widespread bootlegs in 80s and 90s with the cornucopia, but were thrown away by ppl because they realised that they were fake
0 likes2:35 Sinbad was a genie in American Dad though.
1 likeI might be the only one here… but I don’t think I ever imagined it with a cornucopia
0 likesHaving unreliable enough memory is like getting to enjoy the results of being able to draw, make music, movies and games with the only downsides being no way to share them with an audience and having to note down important things.
5 likesGod I had corrected until you showed the incorrect “memory” information then I became really confused because I had thought I’m actually correct “memories” were now wrong when in actuality they were correct.
0 likesI literally didn't recognize the logo until you put the cornucopia !!!
1 like11:34 it took 6.5 billion years for someone to make this metaphor.
0 likesWho else got the Safeway logo mixed up with the Fruit Of The Loom logo?
0 likesNever got the curious George had a tail thing, maybe people mistake his feet for his tail, a big thing in the show was he always swung around with his feet and essentially used them as a second pair of hands
3 likesBefore the mandela effect was "founded" I allready had asked friends why the logo changed.
0 likesi think it's because we want to believe the fruit has a home and not just sitting on a table or something
0 likesIt did have it! Thing is, that they updated the logo, just like many logo reboots. I remember when it changed. Just like logos, mascots on ceral changes, get better designed, cleaner lines, etc etc etc.
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That's exactly what I assumed, too, but unless these companies are lying that's simply not correct. They are claiming that the logos or art never appeared as many remember. It's not credible to me to believe I imagined a cornucopia on my brother's underwear when I was a child. It's not credible to believe I conflated Mr. Peanut with the Monopoly man's monocle. Cornucopias and monocles are very random objects and not easily imagined to exist where they don't.
0 likesNahhhhhh the fruit of the loom HAD a cornucopia. Period end of story. I remember with my own eyes seeing a cornucopia on my boxers. How else would i have learned what that was unless i asked my parents that said they didnt know
0 likesWeird, I remember contemplating (in my pre teen years for sure) why the logo didn't have the cornucopia on the underwear tag itself,
3 likesbut on the plastic bag it was in at Walmart, it had it.
maybe everyone just threw it away because no one would keep some garbage
or maybe its just a theory 🤔
I know for a fact jiffy peanut butter feels so real in my memories
0 likesI think they’re just trolling cause I remember as a kid asking my mom what’s that called and that’s litterly how I learned what a cornucopia was
0 likesI knew of the Mandella Effect but I could swear my black shirts were having that on the logo. I am sorry. What? Are we just passing through near simillar versions of the universe when we die, but the effect of that is we get a slightly modiffied version of it in continuing living?
0 likesI do remember the cornicopium pretty vividly
0 likesi don’t remember it with a cornucopia, it just looks better with one or more satisfying
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Yah almost like it belongs there
0 likesmy (british) school uniform was made by fruit of the loom, with the cornucopia it just looks wrong, i’ve never seen that before
0 likesThe image on older clothes is washed out, and has leaves and holes, which are grapes. It could be mistaken.
0 likesI feel like I remember it because when I was a kid I think I remember thinking of it as a horn
0 likesI don't believe in most Mandela Effects but Chic-Fil-A and the Cornucopia FOTL logo are two things that I know for certain I had memories of. It's the strangest thing.
1 likeTherapist: Chad Dale Gribble isn't real, he can't hurt you!
1 like'Chad' Dale Gribble: 2:08
9:49 explains the entire video and my thoughts on it
1 likeI didnt even know there was a typo in the Dale Earnhart video, I've watched that video twice, all the way through, neither time noticing the hilarity that is the typo "Speeway"
0 likesah, the far-reaching Normie explanations for the effects of CERN, gotta love to hear it
0 likesMy theory:
301 likesIt was in the logo, which is why everyone remembers it, but the reason that no one has physical proof is that underwear gnomes stole them.
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I am gnome and you been...
7 likesROBBED
They figured out what step three was finally
4 likesRegular show?
0 likes@Masline South Park
1 like@Trillyana That was my second guess
0 likesi think this is the third time i have met you, greetings fellow youtube commentor
0 likes@MelecieDiancie Well, I've had this account for almost 15 years so not too surprising. Hello!
1 like0:42 Just so people are aware: cornucopias are a thing people in the UK know about too, that person was just ignorant.
0 likesEdit: That said they do seem to be more common in American pop culture, I assume it's a symbol of the bountiful destiny the USA manifested on North America
Edit2: wait why does a brit even know of Fruit of the Loom?
Edit3: Pumpkins? Thanksgiving? Do Americans think they invented the cornucopia?
I even remember an older version of the logo with a cornucopia.
0 likesThat’s… weird. I remember the cornucopia. So strange.
0 likesNobody who was actually a Pokemon fan in 1998 and old enough to have reliable memories thinks Pikachu has a black tip on their tail. Pokemon fans tend to be artistic and obsessive. We all drew Pikachu a million times, and we all know that Pikachu never had a black tip to their tail.
0 likesI’m starting to believe that EmpLemon is an alien being that’s coming down to Earth to study how little you need to get humans interested.
31 likesOh so thats what that basket thingy is called. It's been bugging me for years trying to rememebr to look it up but keep on forgetting. A fucking cornucopia.
1 likeI'm not from the us
0 likesI didn't know that was called a cornucopia
I've never heard of this brand
but i still vaguely remember that exact logo with that exact cornucopia drawing
I always thought people were remembering an art piece with a cornocopia
0 likesYeah okay now let me tell you what REALLY happened
2 likesTo think, out of all the infinite universes, we were unlucky enough to get one where the live action Sinbad movie was never made
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Truly we live in a Grimdark universe.
4 likesOr lucky depending how you look at it
7 likesKazam is way better than Shazam, trust me.
1 like@LumpySpaceBrotha well ik Kazam isn’t that good, but how do we know Shazam would have be good?
1 like@LumpySpaceBrotha switch kazam and Shazam lol I messed up
1 likei think it was knockoffs, berenstain bears probs knockoffs, fruit of the loom def. curios george i never seen it. new zealand i just thought it was closer to austrailia from where it actually is
0 likesI love the star and jerma twilight zone part I remember that video just like the cornucopia
0 likesI never remembered that logo with a cornucopia and it looks strange with it in. People are crazy, I swear.
0 likes8:20 damn I feel bad for the Mexican American Grocers Association
1 likeThanksgiving cornucopia always has fruits in front of it, so it’s easy to think it’s a background object
4 likesI'm from the UK and to me the logo with the cornucopia looks like clip art and logos used around the harvest time in church and school
0 likesI haven't finished the video, but maybe there was mass produced "fake" fruit of the loom with a cornucopia
0 likesEDIT: Yeah he brings that up lol
Ah looks like I'm going down the fruit of the loom rabbit hole
0 likesThis whole time I thought this fruit of the loom was cider or like an event 😂 it's underwear?
0 likesI vaguely remember the cornucopia being on underwear packaging rather than on the underwear itself. Maybe that's it?
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Nah it's just gone, man. Welcome to Earth #293567
27 likesNo i distinctly remember it being on my underwear. I took notice of it becuase the fruit of the loom tag was getting super worn out lol
12 likesI remember the cornucopia too.
0 likes@Captain Codpiece i remember that shit too
1 likeThe fruit of the loom is plentiful
0 likesWhen i first heard about the Mandela Effect, it sound dumb for the few first exemple. But, it was the first exemple that make my brain explode. 100% sure it miss the cornucopia. And i'm not even in the US, this is not a big brand everywhere, this is not a logo you see everyday. But i know my memory for details like this. Even when working for Amazon, i remember describing the logo to someone. I remember talking about the curnucopia, and the face of the girl when talking about it. The Mandela Effect wasn't know at the time.
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not knowing a term doesn't mean your brain did different things lol.
0 likesno cornucopia
Let me believe.
2 likesi think its just that a cornucopia looks like it should be called a loom lol
0 likesi didn't even know fruit of the loom had a logo
0 likesThis sounds like something I would hear in an SCP article.
0 likesI spent a good 5 minutes looking at the two pictures of curious george going "What is changed?" before noticing the tail. I'm a dumbass.
1 likeHowd he get the smiling friends scene a year before that season came out?
0 likesi am not from america, but i remember the cornucopia only from watching thrift store videos, that is some matrix level shit
1 likeI think the Berenstein Bears thing can also be attributed to how certain parts of the country pronounce "Berenstain". I come from Tennessee, and I can tell you that in a Southern accent, reading it aloud can easily sound like "stein".
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I'm from the Northeast. We pronounced it the same as Frankenstein
0 likesPeople have also found versions of the merchandise with both spellings.
1 likeThere are Double Stuff and Double Stuf. We bought 2 packs of Oreos and one was Double Stuf and the other was Stuff
0 likesCould have sworn it was the "Mandala effect"
0 likesi have a theory okay fotl (fruit of the loom) started out with out the cornucopia them added it for a 3 or 4 months then took it out ( ik this is really bad but its really late for me)
0 likesYou may be right that it's mundane things, but it's not because we have a bad memory, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard, when we recall something we always do to the best of our ability, assuming you're not somebody with alzheimer's, but I'm guessing you are going to be able to remember with great accuracy, otherwise you just say you don't remember, but the thing is we do remember,
0 likesI asked my mom dad and sister all separately what they remember about the logo. They all said they specifically recalled the cornucopia. I asked my grandmother if she remembered a cornucopia and she said she remembered a basket although she is old
30 likesI never heard of Skippy peanut butter but i still remember jif as jiffy
0 likesI simply...can't. All the other Mandela effects make sense but this one is difficult to accept.
0 likesI am one of those who knows there isn't, and never remembered seeing, a cornucopia on the logo.
0 likessomewhere out there is an old children's book with an image of some fruit in a cornucopia
0 likesI would never have expected that a jerma clip would segway into a merch segment but here we are
65 likesCan we all agree that cornucopias seem like a terribly insufficient way of transporting fruits, not to mention every picture the stupid basket is empty and all the fruits falling out
0 likesI really enjoyed this thx
2 likesThe only example of a fictional fruit of the loom logo without a cornucopia i can think of is from the pete and pete episode "inspector 34".
0 likesWe all died young and went to heaven. But they couldn't get every detail right
0 likesThe monopoly man had a monocle. That’s a fact I will never dispute
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Chick-Fil-A was always spelled Chic-Fil-A
0 likesPikachu fact is wrong but it's so obscure you might as well be right. It's on one pikachu in omega ruby and alpha sapphire. I original saw the fact and immediately thought you were wrong but it was just my pikachu. To anyone that doesn't know it's the cosplay one.
0 likesOkay what if the idea that fruit of the loom has a cornucopia that it causes the mandella effect.
0 likesI saw a video not too long ago talking about how the cornucopia was always there and people don't remember it.
0 likesI'm french Canadian, as a kid, I did not speak english, tho these underwears were popular here too. I recall calling this brand of underwear : corne d'abondance ( which means cornucopia in French) How can a child not knowing a language could call something if else there is a clear drawing of the thing ? I'm very confuse to learn the basket was never on the original logo... Maybe there was a knock-off brand using the same name but having add the said cornucopia?
0 likesMy virgo brain is LIVING for this. Set them straight PERIODDDDD
0 likesI am from India, only ever saw fruit of loom underwear logo twice before, since it really isn't popular here and I don't remember the conch shell thingy, I do remeber the grapes and Apple
0 likesWe can't just ignore how horizontal and shit the logo looks without it, right?
0 likesEmp is such an amazing chameleon when it comes to his videos, you never know what the next one will be about, but you can be sure it's going to be well researched
22 likesI'm 42. I sort of remember the people dressed as the fruit in an 80s commercial running out of a cornicopia
0 likesI never remembered it having a cornucopia. Y'all just have bad memories.
1 likeExtra twist: there never was a genie called Shazzam (that's Captain Marvel's activation word) but there was an eponymous Hannah Barbera cartoon about a genie called Shazzan (with an N).
0 likesI got to use eponymous in a sentence :achievement unlocked 🤣.
This whole cornucopia thing is getting me so mad.
0 likesIt’s nice to see that EmpLemon is trying to stay positive in the apocalypse. Will he invite Plague Roach onto his show and do a crossover?
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That would be amazing
0 likes@km099
0 likesRusty Cage is obviously a robot.
Apocalypse?
0 likes@Sammich Smiggms
0 likesI guess you didn't watch the ad.
i remember asking my mum especially because she used to work there
0 likesThere is a Fruit of the Loom Statue in my city. It has the cornucopia.
0 likesIt’s weird how the only relation I have to the brand is because my mother worked on the offices of their manufacturing plants in Honduras. In all my lifetime I never imagined a cornucopia on the logo still fruit of the loom as a product doesn’t really exist outside of the US. So it’s interesting seeing this!
0 likesYou also missed a "Datona" typo in the Earnhardt video, but never mind that.
0 likesi remember seeing the cornucopia on the logo every time i went to walmart until i was about 5 or 6. one day i noticed it suddenly didn't exist and it freaked me out. this whole time i just assumed they changed the look of the logo in the 2000's. i also remember the company at&t being a&t for some reason. this was around the same time too. weird.
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I remember seeing ads for AT&T being marketed as a merger of a merger
0 likesIm from germany, we dont have thanks giving... I know the logo was like that in the 90s.. I Did not even know what a cornucopia was... just know it from the logo
2 likesOk listen, i might of figured it out, the cornucopia is normally with fruit so thats why we think its in that logo and because a cornucopia is with fruit and its brown, and that one time the logo had brown leaves, it thought that.
0 likesIt looks wrong woth the cornucopia. This is also the first time ive heard the name as anything other than "horn of plenty" and ive never seen it.
0 likesI'm from the uk so I only have one shirt with that logo on the tag, from overseas, but yeah even I thought there was a cornicopia.
1 likeno, I don't remember that at all , but tbh I never knew that was called a cornucopia either.
0 likesI usually think Mandela Effects are dumb but this one is bugging me. Maybe it IS possible to think very hard and believe to get into another timeline. I quit weed even, this shouldn't be tripping me out.
0 likesThis is the first time in my life that I've had a slight interest in underwear brands
0 likesthe answer is the devs patched it out with the 2020 update of earth and all the textures got changed
0 likes0:05 Fruit of the Loom
8 likes0:48 Mandela Effect
1:57 Reconstruction of an event using Memory
3:49 Cornucopia
5:30 Cornucopia across decades
7:26 There Never Was Ever A Cornucopia
9:31 Parallel Universes?
10:40 Memory is connection with the past,
11:45 The Token of The Past
13:00 The Advertizement
I didn’t remember The cornucopia,
0 likesuntil you showed it to me,
🧐
https://youtu.be/z-syaCoqkZA In this pbs spacetime video eventually they get to a point where quantum timelines that separate may eventually re-alignand thought of that as a potential theoretical answer to this. People who remember the Cornucopia are from a slightly different timeline that has rejoined due to synchronicity or something.
0 likesThe world did end in 2012. Reality was destroyed. We are in limbo where nobody knows the truth.
1 likeReminds me of something out of The Dark Tower series by Stephen King
0 likesI first wore fruit of the loom back in elementary school. I also had to learn my abc's and f would be fruit. I remember there being a more generic fruit logo with a cornucopia. Maybe that would cause the confusion?
3 likesI didn’t know it was called a cornocopia. I called it a horn a of plenty and basically only use it to sing the song from the hunger games
0 likesHow is altarpiece more common than heatwave?
0 likes10:26 the most exciting part of the video was when I got this right
0 likesI remember seeing the cornucopia logo when I was 8 in the late summer/ early fall of 2012
0 likesWell done.
0 likesMaybe the real cornucopia was the friends we made along the way
0 likesthis man straight up denies Bernstein
1 likeat least I can be confident about one of these quibbles. Pikachu has never had a black stripe on its tail
0 likesThis is an absolutely fantastic video.
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0 likesnice
I remember the cornucopia.. I must be from another universe ;)
1 like"underwear is something we have on every day"
0 likeshehehehehehe
Also theres just the other possibility that all these companies and brand names are just impulsively gaslighting us so they don't get memed on with the "don't make me into an oversimplified logo"
Berenstein bears changing to Berenstain bears freaked me out.
0 likesi remember the logo never having a cornucopia. but i also remember nelson mandela being elected president of south africa. so what's wrong with me? some enterprising young researcher should go to south africa and ask a bunch of south africans if they remember mandela dying in prison in the 80s. the results would be...enlightening.
0 likesWhen I hear about Fruit of the Loom I can't stop laughing for some reason. Somehow I find the name hillarious.
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Isnt it kind of a balls joke? Ive always thought it was
4 likesLoom of the fruit
0 likesI remember the Cornucopia from the 90s. Mandela effect is crazy.
0 likesmaybe the unfindable logo is from an art piece? maybe a painting or statue?
0 likesThe Mandela Effect, AKA remembering things incorrectly
0 likes10:42
0 likesThis is the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny!
Storytime:
18 likesIn my Sophomore year, we had to do trivia quiz for to gain competition points for our grade. We were given this statement to answer:
“Also known as Rich Uncle Pennybags, give the name of the game from which this monocle-wearing man comes from.”
I answered Monopoly and then told the questionnaire that Rich Uncle Pennybags never had a monocle. He said: “Don’t question me, I’m right.”
(What a jerk, couldn’t even Google to make sure.)
I think you're reaching on the point of people not adding it in as its unrelated its close enough that people could reasonably add it in similar to the other examples
0 likes18 dollars for 4 pair of boxers says they’re not so concerned about providing a cheap product.
0 likesI wonder who drew that version of the logo with the cornucopia.
0 likesSims 2 had an item that is a bunch of fruits with a curnocopia!
0 likesI like Emp's wide smile at the end. It's like an Aphex Twin grin
3 likes"has nothing to do with underwear" dude the logo is fruit. the name is fruit of the loom. that has everything to do with underwear.
1 likeI'm from the UK and don't remember the cornocopia on the logo.
0 likesI do remember pringles used to sell 'sour cream and chive' pringles but they changed it to 'sour cream and onion'. But there is no evidence of it and clearly it's Mandela effect cos u usually hear sour cream n chive and not sour cream n onion.
But I swear I'm not going crazy 😭 I really think the government is hiding the original name from us. Lmao
Watched this video muted while very stoned and still learned so much
0 likesWhen I was a child my mom decorated for all the holidays for us kids and there were always cornucopia in the cutouts she would hang. Also we made them in arts class in elementary (along with "hand turkeys"lol) . Im sure everyone else did too and thats why we associate it with the logo
0 likesOk I’ve talked to multiple people and some have the same memory of a commercial of men dressed fruit suits and a cornucopia and the butt of the joke being no one knowing what a cornucopia was
0 likesalways appreciate a rare jerma sound clip
0 likesCan we appreciate the star and jerma part
0 likesOh for real I never had the Mandela effect happen to me but god damnit.
0 likesSometimes I feel like watching videos like this trigger the rift into a parallel universe. Every time I watch one, some other thing changes. I knew Fruit of the Loom changed their logo in one of the past universes but somehow I ended up in the one where said logo never existed. My dad never ate dill pickles so I would get dill pickles on everything to keep him away from my food, then I crossed realities and he ate dill pickles regularly despite not eating them for the first 20 years of my life. I miss my dad who didn't eat pickles.
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Have you talked to your dad about the pickle situation to confirm something is wrong? Otherwise people's palates can change over time, I always hated tomatoes until recently for example.
1 likeShit is trippin me out
3 likes@F̡ac͜e͡l̨e̶ss͟ I sometime could had sworn there used to be an old group photo I have on my phone. Never delete it. But can still pin point the exact date when it was taken. Even posted it onto Facebook once. Now trying to look for that one specific photo is impossible. Can't find it anywhere whether is on my phone or social media. Even asked my friends about it and they say they don't remember taking a group photo. This is weird I might be tripping
1 likecornucopias are fucking everywhere in elementary school tho especially in november so the image of one will always be extremely distinct in my mind
1 likehehe, i have an explanation 🤓
0 likesit’s simply that the logo looks better to most people with "whatever that brown loom thing in the back
is supposed to be" (paraphrasing)
So there's recently been a new Mandela Effect example.
0 likesApparently many people remember the South Park character Tolkien Black being named "Token Black".
Right, but the logo looks so much better with the cornucopia included
0 likesNah I just changed I thought the cornucopia didn’t look that good
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See, guys? Even God understands Logo Design.
25 likesThanks God, doing a public service
9 likesYou’re wrong
1 likeSomeone make an account as Stephen from SMT and dedicate it to bully this account.
0 likesoh my god
1 likeWhat if it’s there but we all left to a parallel universe instead where the cornucopia isn’t there
0 likesBro honestly YouTube videos can replace a college education with stuff like this
0 likesThat or we really have had a “conjunction of the spheres”….
1 likeMr. Rogers committing seppuku is a blast from the past tho
0 likesI also remember it with a cornucopia for some reason. I only owned one fruit of the loom shirt in my entire life and I still distinctly remember it having the cornucopia, despite not even knowing what that was when I was around 11 years old
21 likesme: the hell is everybody talking about a cornucopia? i came here to figure out where the fuck the pear that used to be behind the grapes went
0 likeseverybody else: ......
who tf put a cornucopia in their memory of Fruit of the Loom wtf? lmao
0 likesThere is no "Mandela Effect." There is widespread lack of mental discipline.
0 likesLove the Jerma/STAR_ reference at 12:30
1 likePOV: You shat yourself and are trying to convince people it's just the logo
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don't make people relive their memories
5 likesLmao best comment on this!
0 likesThere was a windows 95 icon of fruit with a cornucopia.
1 likeBest sponsorship ad ever hahaha, glad I stuck around
0 likesSorry, but out of all the Mandela effects, this one I will go to my grave claiming happened.
0 likesBerenstain Bears is misremembered because my librarian had a little dot sticker and a sharpie marker. The dot covers up the "a" and she draws the "e." Probably because kids in USA are mean to each other.
0 likesFinally, Emplemon face reveal on main.
35 likesWe're living in a simulation, y'all.
0 likesOk so I’m British, so I literally have no reason to imagine a cornucopia on the logo but I do remember it being there wtf
0 likesWTF there are people who think Pikachu has a black strip on the end of it's tail?
1 likeWhen they started doing the commercial with the fruit has actual humans in costumes that might be when I drop the cornucopia
0 likesThere Will Never Ever be a Fruit of the Loom Logo with a Cornucopia
37 likesWhoa this is well done
0 likesMy memory is faulty. I distincly remember The Simpsons having yellow skin, not green.
0 likesHonestly, wasn't this exact logo with the cornucopia in the sims 3 shopping expansion?
1 likewhat’s the discrepancy? the cornucopia was there. i know because i remember it
1 likeI think nearly everyone who grew up in the 80's and 90's remembers Mason Jars. The kind of jars that people put home made pickles, and beets, and stuff like that in?
6 likesWell in the 80's and 90's it became quite common to see Mason Jars with Handles for drinking out of, my family had one, I know other families that had a couple... anyway.
Everyone remembers Ball Brand Mason Jars, but do you remember Golden Harvest Brand? They were quite big as well and although their company logo is not a cornucopia filled with fruit, there was one staring at you every time you used one of those glasses.
Google Golden Harvest Canning Jar Glass.
I don't know if it solves the mystery for anyone else, but now I know why I recognize a logo like that and feel so familiar with it. I looked at it hundreds if not thousands of times and never noticed it for real... until recently.
Extra Fact: Golden Harvest also makes a small jam sized jar that has the something very similar to the foreground part of the Fruit of the Loom logo.
https://www.healthycanning.com/wp-content/uploads/Golden-Harvest-mason-Jars-FB.jpg
he could be telling the truth or this could be the biggest gaslight ever
1 likeKit kat lost her hyphen during a drunken weekend.
1 like8:25 i think my reason to think fruit of the loom has s cornucopia is because of a disney hercules tv show episode wherein adonis is eating froot
0 likesInb4 that was disney making a loom reference so it's a circular kind of thing
the thing thats wild to me is that is exactly how I pictured the cornicopia.
0 likes12:31 The noises of Jerma985 hit like a truck when you least expect them
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Was scrolling through the comments to see if it was him and I wasn’t going crazy
13 likesout of the things i expected to see in this video, jerma wasnt one of them
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0 likesnice
When the Impostor is unexpected
0 likesCurious Jorge had a tail, at least in some of the cartoons
0 likesI swear the plastic baggie that the underwear came in had the cornucopia in a large format logo then had the smaller no cornucopia on the individual underwear
0 likesTo be fair, the singers for the berenstain bears canadian tv show pronounce it as "steen", so other people drilled the mistake into my audio brain.
0 likesMaybe the cornucopia was the memories we made along the way
0 likesAlso to go with this: Changing things to make them recognizable out of context, then proceeding to use it until it becomes widely known.
4 likes(Example: Changing "No, I Am Your Father" to "Luke, I Am Your Father" in order for it to be instantly recognizable as Star Wars)
Seeing the cornucopia in textbooks in elementary school may have something to do with ir
0 likesThere for sure is a cornucopia somewhere in their past.. I know for sure that's how i remember it. Whether it was an ad or something I don't know, but it is real.
0 likesI swear I saw a cornucopia on fruit of the loom logo!
0 likes"No bro I didn't misremmeber, I uh, I'm from a parallel universe!!!" while the examples are fun, people really need to get over themselves
0 likesWhile I don’t remember there ever being a cornucopia, I must say, it looks better.
12 likesI think I envision a monocle on the monopoly guy because of ace ventura when nature calls
0 likesThe STAR_/Jerma video reference about memory was a nice touch.
0 likes“Does it really matter-“ YES OMG YES IDK WHY BUT YES 😭
0 likesNever to my knowledge
0 likes[It maybe was there in Bologna's Montagnola Fake Copies of Clothes]
"The present makes up a tiny fraction of our lives compared to the past and future, but it's the only time frame we will ever truly know."
15 likesThat hit too hard for a video about underwear.
I think I may have seen it on packaging before, but not the actual underwear
0 likesIn a vaccum the cornucopia looks right, but once it is imposed on the white shirt something in me knows it is wrong.
0 likesi need to uncover the lore behind this word
0 likesbeautiful metaphor between underwear and memory never thought id say that
0 likesemplemon sometimes: One of mankind's greatest achievements was built on the back of one of its greatest atrocities.
3 likesalso emp sometimes: Fruit of the Loom is an American clothing manufacturer most well known for selling underwear.
You cannot tell me there was no cornucopia I REMEMBER that shit!
0 likesim from scotland and i couldve sworn that logo had the basket
0 likesI remember the cornucopia % 💯
0 likeshoo boy that "Mexican American Grocery Association" has probably had a rough couple of years considering what their name acronyms into....
0 likesI never saw a basket on the underwear on my father's undies. Me neither
0 likesi have a theory, what if some random unknown man, sneakily put a cornucopia in the logo for trolling purposes, now we have been trolled?
0 likesI specifically fucking remember that cornucopia. Specifically. Theres no way in hell
1 likewait fruit of the loom didn't have a cornucopia?
0 likesWhenever I notice little changes like this I just think it is rebranding, then I learn that it never existed ???? Crazy 👁👄👁
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It’s like Trix, we saw the shapes as kids but now we are older and they are just spheres.
3 likesYeah I was gonna say I remember looking at the fruit of the loom logo ome time and thinking "oh, they changed it and got rid of the cornucopia to simplify it"
1 likeYeah when I found out they were just spheres I was like huh.. that's more boring then I thought they were.
0 likesSome people think that this logo was in the plastic packaging, which honestly makes sense as to why no one can find it. I am absolutely certain I've seen that logo before, that was literally my first introduction to what a cornucopia even was, and I didn't recognize one again until the hunger games lmao
0 likesSure you’ll get to this eventually but a poor choice to say oh Monacle made sense cause that’s normal for rich people but not acknowledge Cornucopia is normal for pipe of fruit particularly that art style it’s the exact same principle and a missed chance
0 likesThe facts can not be denied there is something to this Mandela effect. ..as to what it is ????
3 likesI'm from Germany and I remember the cornucopia too. W - T -F..
0 likesthe last cornucopia I thought about was the one in Cornflake Crisis
0 likesTHAT STAR AND JERMA REFERENCE GAVE ME LIFE.
35 likesI've watched "What really happened" Way too many times.
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I was looking for this ^
2 likesamen
0 likesI refuse to believe there was never a cornucopia
1 likeI kinda remember it being there, but then again the California sun raisin girl had something like it too in her logo. So maybe there?
0 likes10:08 Cosplay Pikachu’s tail has a black heart shaped tip, so yeah if you get that confused you’re gonna make people think you’re talking about Cosplay Pika and not normal Pika
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Female pikachus have that on their tail. It's in the games too.
1 like@Waluigi WAH no shit
1 like@Call me Zelda ONE moar time No shit sherlock.
0 likesPokemon fans explaining why the 95% accuracy move missed 3 times: These cognitive techniques give us speed at the cost of accuracy
0 likes@Waluigi WAH I said no shit because if I’m talking about Cosplay Pikachu then I clearly know female Pikachu’s have a heart shaped tail, but only Cosplay Pika has the black heart
0 likes@Call me Zelda ONE moar time Oh, I forgot that pikachu was a female. So it has a black instead of a brown? Interesting. Sorry that i'm stupid though.
0 likesFruit!
0 likesStuff it in the cornucopia!
Emp is the only guy I know who can make me watch a 16 minute long video on underwear and keep my interest.
7 likesi swear to god, when i was younger the fruit of the loom had a cornucopia. i had pairs of underwear with this fuckin cornucopia.
0 likesI swear it had a cornucopia, but no, it never has apparently
0 likesThe cornucopia was a cognitohazard and had to be removed from humanity's memory
0 likes"MANDELA EFFECT"
1 like"STUFF IT IN THE CORNUCOPIA"
I think people saw the fruit of the loom logo, saw media portraying it with a cornucopia (so media doesnt want to get into legal problems), then processed the cornucopia into the fruit of the loom memories.
11 likesI thought the Mandela effect from Fruit of the Loom, was that there was only a cornucopia, i thought there was actually no fruit
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I didnt even know cornucopias were a thing
0 likesWe can never escape super bowl 51 I swear
0 likesi always thought the cornucopia was on the other side
0 likesYou have the best titles.
0 likesWe don't have the Looney Tunes problem over here in the UK, since tunes are pronounced chewns
0 likesI think they used it but used ink that vanished after a while.
0 likesGo to sleezy flea markets and small dollar stores. There's a common bootleg with the cornucopia
0 likesTake a shot every time he says Cornucopia.
0 likesWhen I started watching this video I was thinking about how I asked my mom what the thing on the fruit of the loom tag was, and then you said that’s a widespread memory too. Very bizarre. Idk about this one.
5 likesIt seems there are some logos with the leaves being brown. I assume it’s that 🎉
0 likesThe fruit of the loom logo is close to the Jack’s market logo which has the cornucopia. This is why we feel like it should be there, not the Mandela effect
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how many countries are jack's market goods sold in? fruit of the loom sells in 89 countries.
2 likesfruit of the loom should just add the corucopia
0 likes12:20 Laying in bed rn, after he said that I took a photo of my room from where I am, maybe I'll see it in like 5 years and think "oh yeah I remember that"
0 likesProbably not but u never know ig
"Mexican American Growers Association"
207 likesOtherwise known as
MAGA
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I wonder if anyone has ever been harrassed for wearing a Mexican American Growers Association hat.
39 likes@awkwardcultism they don't create hats
5 likes@IcyFrost they should
47 likesI thought the cornucopia was featured in a brand of glass jars? Very similar logo.
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After looking it up, we had a mason jar with a cornucopia and I’m almost sure this is why I thought that the fruit of the loom logo had a cornucopia.
0 likesReal shit: How did they get the supposedly 'incorrect' logos? 🔎
0 likesWhen I was younger I always say it . I really really liked the logo to the point I always looked at it I was it and I remember it so that’s why I find it weird
0 likesmy mother did not believe this. she bought my brother and me fotl our entire childhood. i think she still believes the cornucopia is real and i was trying to fool her
0 likesI love it when my mind just photoshops things into weird places.
31 likesPikachu never had a black tail end, he only had it in the first movie. In the anime
0 likesWhat?? But i always remembered it there… even as recent as a few months ago… this is so confusing
1 likeI'm German... Fruit of the loom is NOT a popular brand here. I do, however, have a thrifted shirt with a titanic poster printed on the front.. And I vividly remember the logo WITH a cornucopia, because it stuck out to me and I recognized it again years later seeing the hunger games?
0 likesmaybe there was fake fruit of the loom that had it
0 likesI didn’t even know what a cornercopia was
2 likesit never had one
0 likesit was my favorite brand of hoodies in the 2000s
believe me, it never had one, atleast not at this time
Plot twist: this entire video was just to cover up that he got Speedway spelled wrong.
20 likesWhen I hear the word cornucopia I always think of the Black Sabbath song.
0 likesI remember jiffy peanut butter because that's how I learned that a jiffy was a measurement of time.
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@Ai Zee normally I'd agree with you, but I remember specifically Jif and then also Jiffy. I remember specifically wondering what a jiffy was and looked it up.
0 likesnah it's juste different grapes and vine leaves make you think of greece mythology, abundance of food so it fits. Just like the monocle. Didn't have to go this far soz
0 likesOn April fool's Day of this year the cornucopia was used in the logo until next day
0 likesyou're all so suggestible. you remember it looking like that because you just saw a picture of it in this video. that's what you're all remembering. that's how it got into your memory. through your eyes
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when he said that some people claim to remember thinking that the name of that horn is a loom i got a distinct memory of having that same misconception myself as a child. amazing how he got into my head like that. you're all forgiven
0 likesBut what about when they ran the ads with the dancing it’s in suits? Maybe I’m thinking of a Walmart / Kmart brand but my brain still says the logo had the design at one time.
0 likesThree funny part is that Pikachu does have black on the tip of it's tail, as long as it's female.
0 likesThe simulation is inconsistent
2 likesNo other explanation
I'm I the only one not remembering a cornucopia lol
1 likeThe ad at the end was a good example of the right way to include an advertisement on YouTube. Entertaining, thought put into it, and done after the main content of the video is over.
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I find it strange that people think it's a good idea to include the advertisement right in the middle of something, and don't do anything interesting with it. You're just going to make people hate what's being advertised even more. (COUGH Raid: Shadow Legends COUGH)
1 likeunlike pyrocinical
0 likesI know right? I know a youtuber who makes this advertisement in the most boring way posible, at the start of the video he explains about the product, the link to get a discount and finally starts the video, althought is just 1 or 2 minutos it is so boring to watch and i always skip that part and i doesnt pay atention it
1 likeIn contrast, youtubers like emplemon and internet historian make ads more interesting because they make it funny and have something to do with the topic of the video instead of just being an out of place bland exposition on how the sponsored is the best thing you will ever buy, to put it simply, the more you are bored while watching you advertise the less chances someone will watch it entirely and click in the link with the discount.
And i guess because they are selling product im actualy interest in i dont know
@Raum 2901 Those are some really good points, but DO NOT buy ray cons. (they're rays con) lookup on youtube, "dankpods raycon" green laptop thumbnail, you'll see why. really nice video, if you like emp and internet historian like me, you'll like dankpods.
1 like@Jackson i watch the video, it was entertraining, i didnt want to buy ray cons because i dont have the money to buy it and i dont listen to music in public, but if i ever want to buy a wireless earphone i will listen to dankpods recomendation
0 likes@Raum 2901 I'm sorry, I never implied that you wanted to buy raycons, I'm just saying that if you were in the market for wireless earbuds, don't buy raycons.
0 likes@meme I love dankpods. Such a cool guy. He actually replied to a comment of mine once!
0 likesThey should put one on every 50,000th tag
0 likesAre people thinking about sinbad from 2003? That cartoon from dreamworks. I remember seeing it, and I was bracing for some serious confusion if it didn’t exist.
0 likesI'm 38, I do NOT believe in this whole Mandella thing going on, but I KNOW it had the cornucopia on the logo!! I remember being a boy and asking my mom what it was cus I thought it was picture of fruit and poop! I'm so sooooo confused!!
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That’s super weird, but my theory comes from the fact I live in Australia and have literally never seen or heard of that brand in my life but even to me the cornucopia versions looks correct or better so I think cus it looks better you assume it’s the right one or something
0 likesThese people just got doo stains on their tag and they try to cope by imagining it's a cornucopia
0 likesI am living for this period in youtube history where video essays on the most random shit in the world are so entertaining. I couldn't have convinced myself 2 years ago that I would be overjoyed to see a Youtuber I subscribe to talk about Fruit of the Loom, but here we are.
6 likesLove you emp, keep making good ass videos.
how tf is cornucopia a more common word than heatwave??
0 likesHoly shit, the logo didn't have a cornucopia???
0 likesEmplemon is shilling against the mandela effect!! Quick, everyone take refuge in the hollow Earth!
0 likesI distinctly remember the logo having the cornucopia
0 likesThey should make cotton diapers and call them fruit of the womb
0 likesHey ya, I don't know what fruit of the loom is, but i rememember seeing that logo with the cornucopia before.
0 likesDo you think there werre some counterfeit versions of fruit of the loom ?
0 likesThere's no reason for me to remember this but I do. I day something up. That cornucopia was there at some point
0 likesI know in my heart of hearts there is no cornucopia on the fruit of the Loom logo
26 likes* Shows the cornucopia *
Hol up...
I never saw the Cornucopia so this video won't affect me...
1 like"There is no Jiffy Peanut butter"
EXUSE ME WHAT
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Tbf their is Jiffy lube and Jiffy pop, just jif is the weird one.
0 likes'the adventures of sinbad' was a cartoon in the '90s...maybe people are combining it with the genie movie in their memories
0 likesI remember the cone too!
0 likesThe problem with the sinbad thing Is that he is going to be in the new DC movie Shazam! Furry of the gods
0 likeswhen I was a kid, we had an art class that was based around drawing on plastic wrap over tin foil. We had this picture to trace, which was basically the fruit of the loom logo, but it did have a cornucopia, and it also had a banana in it. I don't know if this was really a common experience, I live in a relatively small city and went to a private grade school. However, anyone else remember doing this?
3 likesi remember it being a shallow basket
0 likesBro this popped up in my feed while I was sitting in my recliner wearing nothing but my fruit of the loom underwear.
0 likesThat logo is from those pre packaged pastries
0 likesOk this is crazy, I remember a cornucopia wow....
0 likesEmplemon revealed his full face in a video about an underwear logo. Genuinely couldn't have been done better.
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"Revealed"? He briefly showed his face for the 1st time on Goop Videos' channel, like 3 years ago lol :)
2 likes@noob2243 I've never even heard of Goop Videos. This is the first time it's been put on full display on his own channel as far as I know.
1 likeHe’s shown his face before
0 likes@Supa Player Not in full, he's always had sunglasses or something else on. Now he's only got the green filter to hide his identity.
1 like@noob2243 I saw that too.
0 likesNvm just found out he has a deleted face reveal he did for 100k subs. There's an archive of it and it's literally the first thing that comes up when you search "Emplemon face reveal." So I guess I'm just dumb. Idk, never really wondered what he looked like before. Just knew I liked his content. Not like I'll ever meet the guy lol.
0 likes@8:21 the most mindblowing detail of this entire video is easily: THE ORIGINAL #MAGA.. = “MEXICAN AMERICAN GROCER’S ASSOCIATION”
2 likesthere’s no way, I know it was there
1 likeOccam's razor, we’re living in a simulation.
0 likesYou mean to tell me it DOESN’T have a cornucopia?
0 likesHonestly it’s cursed that we literally can’t prove or disprove the mandela multiverse somehow
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just use Occam's Razor
22 likes@darkdwarf007
15 likesThat doesn't disprove it though. Occam's Razor isn't completely right, just the most reasonable. Very rarely you'll get something that really is that silly and over the top.
wait till you hear about solipsism
3 likesThere's a ton of things that we can't prove or disprove. You can't prove that at some point I was a fish that only ate oranges in my past life.
6 likes@darkdwarf007 occams rasor is just bored person think. It's not even relevent or should be thought about as a legitimate thing
2 likes@AuraRavenWolfie true, maybe we should just use Newton's flaming laser sword instead. Anything that cannot be settled by an experiment is not worth debating.
2 likesYou can't prove or disprove a bunch of shit that doesn't really impact how you live your life. Like last tuesdayism, simulation hypothesis, that a falling tree makes noise when nobody is around, that light travels at the same speed in all dierctions, that other people exist. Basically anything, as the concept af absolute proof makes no sense outside of logic statements.
0 likes@AuraRavenWolfie I assume you feed your cat plastic then, seeing as feeding him cat food would be using Occam's Razor.
1 like13:45 hey isn't it that one guy from Reservoir Dogs that's too much of a cheap goombah to tip a single mother for serving him lunch? Eck!
0 likes10:59 its funny you say that and show The Thinker, because thats another Mandela Effect. His hand used to be on his forehead and his elbow wasnt resting on the opposite leg.
0 likesI'm not sure if I thought it had the cornucopia or not but now itll stuck with me forevor
0 likesan old family guy cutaway gag taught me what a cornucopia was
0 likesTo elaborate on the reconstructive memory point (from an A level psych):
6 likesReconstructive memory is a concept or theory that suggests memory is not repeated, but reconstructed; this implies that our memory is maluable and subject to change.
There are different ways our memories can be altered:
Rationalisation occurs when a memory contains details that may seem strange and foreign to us, so our memories may change in order to make sense of what we've seen, this can be influenced by personal bias and stereotypes, aka schemas.
Confabulation is where we fill gaps of our memories with confabulated (fake) stories that are constructed from past memories and schemas.
Why does no one else remember that MadTV did a sketch with Sinbad as Sinbad?
1 likei swear the cornucopia was there. You can’t convince me otherwise
0 likesThis is the first time I'm learning that there wasn't one.
0 likes2:17 when I can’t find Groudon😔
0 likesI remember farmers markets as a kid having the fruit of the loom logo with an added cornucopia as their own logo. Might be an explanation.
5 likesPoor Sinbad, he was popular a whole, entire generation ago.
0 likesSo they ended up using that specific cornucopia logo on their website for only one day on April Fools Day 2022
0 likesHanes Is the GOAT Fruit of the Loom is weak AF
0 likesThe simulation is beginning to unravel.
0 likesHuh weird I could’ve sworn the simpsons were yellow… must just b my memory failing me
0 likesIt’s just like the Kit Kat mandela effect and it makes me so mad
0 likesThe gov build a time machine ,, and Went back in time ... and it had a ripple effect.... and now we blame the Mandela effect .. but we should blame the ppl who went back in time.
0 likesI think that there used to be a cornucopia but they just changed their logo and made sure that nobody could find the logo again by hiring someone to remove all logos from the internet and stopped putting logos on the underwear so that nobody had the old one then started putting it back on but without the cornucopia so that this would happen and they would get lots of attention therefore they get marketing
0 likesPeople are so arrogant they'd rather make up theories of alternate dimensions and glitches in the universe than admit they were wrong.
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But it was there tho
5 likesthe cornucopia is real
2 likesIt’s the same effect as thinking people on the radio “look like they sound” when you see a picture of them.!
1 likeTested their extended washable ink
0 likesmaybe the cornucopia was on the packaging but not the clothing tag.
0 likesthis is a weird corner of youtube and i am happy to report that i am onboard and have subscribed
0 likesi fell asleep and dreamed i was playing a game. i awoke from the dream, but am i still playing the game?
0 likesI could have sworn the brand was called „Froot of the Loom“
5 likesEveryone associating the cornucopia with Thanksgiving, thee are foreigners who don't celebrate thanksgiving who remember it too!
1 likeBro this is the only one that freaks me out.
0 likesFunny - I don't remember any of the Simpsons ever being GREEN! Mandela effect there?!?!? :-O
0 likesNot a lot of fruit in those looms
0 likesPart of me was waiting for you to say at some point “actually there is a cornucopia in the logo you’ve been fooled”
53 likesI watched this video to understand something I already didn't understand, not to be introduced to other misunderstanding that I didn't know about. I immediately regretted watching this video at the 10 minute mark.
0 likesFruitloops is not froot loops.. I just looked at my box what the actual fu-
0 likesNo it definetley used to have a corucopia i remember it so distinctly but at the same time i dont
0 likesMe before this vid: "wtf is a cornucopia?"
0 likesI don't remember a cornucopia in the Fruit of the Loom logo, but it does feel like something is missing...
22 likesHuman brains are weird af
That album cover parody tho? I mean... wtf?!
0 likesI've never seen this logo with a cornucopia and it doesn't seem right with it. It always has been without it, wake up guys.
0 likesThe cornucopia is definitely real
0 likesIf anyone could conclusively prove that the cornucopia was removed at some point, the next answer is easy: Why? Because it was weird having an extremely phallic object advertising underwear....
0 likesYou can tell me I'm crazy idc. I know there was a cornucopia.
0 likesYour telling me there wasn't a cornucopia?
0 likesThe only reason I know about cornucopias is because of the logo
1 likeI never heard of this brand ??!
0 likesEmpLemon can make LITERALLY ANYTHING interesting.
8 likesDude I remember this EXACT logo
0 likesI remember that music video at 10:41 but not the song… I really need to watch that music video again
0 likesLife is but a dream and reality is much stranger than it seems.
0 likesOkay so I definitely remember this
0 likesI totally remember the cornucopia! I feel like I am being gaslighted right now!
6 likesI will brutally fist fight anyone who says there is no cornucopia
0 likesin a video game of course
to be honest it looks better when its got the cornucopia
0 likes8:20: Something about "MAGA" standing for "Mexican-American Grocery Association" & being portrayed by a bunch of fruits is ironic. (Like if you see why lol.)
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PS: The brown leaves explaining makes total sense at a glance especially! That's gotta be at least part of why this phenomenon exists.
0 likesThat ad though 😂😂😂
0 likes8:24 - Wait, so MAGA actually means Mexican American Grocers association?
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Ironic considering trumps stance on mexico
29 likesI came looking for this comment lmao
5 likesHilaryous in hindsight
2 likes@Mythitorium ehh I’d say it’s a funny coincidence seeing as plenty of mexican americans love trump
22 likes@Literally me
0 likesliterally ask any latin person in florida
I didn’t watch the ant bully and have a distinct memory when I was five asking my sister what the cornucopia was (2005) doesn’t add up
0 likesI’ve never heard of this company
0 likes14:43 i remember that too.. but it was because back then i didn't understand english so my brain confused those words
0 likesThe absolute extent of the mass false memories in this comment section are wild lmao
0 likesI'm not American and have never heard of fruit of the loom but I still thought it had a cornucopia
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Same
0 likesHas anybody considered that people shit their pants and "made" a "cornucopia" on the tag
1 like8:22 I wonder if that MAGA association still exist cuz that's the second time I've even seen that acronym, and it's not even used for political purposes
0 likesI bought one of those shirts once
0 likesFruit of the Loom, stuff it in the cornucopia
0 likesWe also reconstruct memories when trying to understand things we never seen before. It's the way intelligence works.
4 likes10:04 why do you say cape cad? Its a Kit Kat
0 likesRUSTY CAGE OMG BEST CROSSOVER EVER
0 likesThat cornucopia was a fart stain!
0 likes10:07 the tip of Pikachu's tail ISN'T black?!?! This clearly is not universe prime
0 likesFucking Hadron collider fucking up the timeline. I remember that cornucopia on all my childhood underwear. I can say I drew Pikachu thousands of times as a kid and he never had a black tail tip
0 likesthis video is pretty trippy to watch stoned af
0 likesthis is absolutley fucking my brain up
0 likesMy theory is that people confused their shit stains on their underwear with a cornucopia
0 likesbtw... its fruitS of the loom... plural... not just one fruit...
0 likesFor some reason cornucopia is unnerving to me
1 likeMandela effect? I thought it was called a Mandingo effect! Oh wait no that's something else, different website.
0 likesI know Fruit of the Loom for t-shirts here in England.
0 likesI can clearly remember a cornucopia though. I literally make the connection every time I think of fruit of the loom, I think I remember being one of the kids who thought of the cornucopia as the loom. Listen I'm not big on conspiracies or mandela effect, I like to be skeptical. But it's very weird. Why in gods name does everyone remember a damn cornucopia?
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The first time I watched the hunger games I heard them talking about a cournocopia and I said, out loud, “Oh, like the fruit of the loom logo.” Just now I asked her about it, and she said she doesn’t remember.
1 likeSimulation theory
0 likesI'm pretty sure I've seen both versions (irl)
0 likesIn Europe it has one. Atleast there is a brand with that logo.
0 likesI'm literally wearing their underwear right now
1 likeLook up for the coat of arms of Honduras and Colombia, they have somthing like that.
0 likesI could listen to you talk about bread for an hour and still be entertained
3 likesI vividly remember the cornucopia on the logo
0 likesYou just won yourself a subscriber
0 likesOne theory is that there is no cornucopia in the simulation.
0 likesI know that damn cornucopia was there
0 likesI was seven years old in a Kmart when I told my mom the logo could really benefit from adding a cornucopia, and she asked me what a cornucopia was.
22 likesWas there.. a Jerma reference in this video?... Seriously impressed.
0 likesI think it was the Scott's logo that people are conflating
0 likes8:00 is that a knife?
0 likesThe matrix is glitching. Or aliens are playing mind games.
0 likesAhh yes the Emperor Lemon
6 likesThe man who can analyze, simplify and explain the Mandela Effect and also make good Youtube Poops
I'm pretty sure pikachu did had a couple of black stripes in the tail
0 likesI haven’t use or heard Cornucopia in about 25 years
0 likesThnkx for a brilliant video ✅
0 likesExcuse me you say your underwear is going to be stained by something you don't quite understand? Thank you for subscribing to poop facts.
0 likesNaw the cornucopia was there when I was a kid for sure .
1 likeLmfao I just watched one about Everest now it’s fruit of the loom ???
0 likesIt never had a cornuocopia, i wear them since im a child and it never had it
0 likesis it just me or does this guy sound like Big Joel
0 likesEmp is the only Youtuber I'll watch a 15 minute video on an underwear company for
8 likes...I remember it having a conocopia... wtf...
0 likesYoure fucking with us about the monopoly man, and you cant tell me otherwise.
0 likesRetitle- Why you never proofread your own work.
0 likesJIffy lube is also a mechanical lubricant
0 likesI ate a really good Sloppy Joe with lean ground beef, tomato sauce, brown sugar, vinegar, diced onion, and a side of Lays potato chips. I really enjoy this sandwich because it has a very sweet taste unlike many others, but if you don’t like the sweetness you can remove the brown sugar. I hope you all get to eat a really good sandwich as well!
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The sandwich man has blessed us with his presence
1 likeThank you Sandwich Man
0 likesThank you Sandwich Man
0 likesBruh, I just got done searching for a Cuban sandwich to be delivered to me and came up empty in my whole town. These jokers ain't about this fire sandwich game.
0 likesthank you The Sandwich Man
0 likesCould only get one take outta ol' rust bucket hey?
0 likesIt's the brain completing something that feels incomplete, the cornocopia rounds the logo better, it doesn't help that on small prints it kinda looks like that.
1 likeIt's like asking somebody to rember what shirt your friend was wearing on Tuesday.
Dude I thought emplemon was blue not green
0 likesGaslighting on a global scale
1 likeAlso, in the movie casino, there's a shop with a cornucopia fruit of the loom logo
34 likesplease dont ever do these real life sketches again in every reality they are cringe
0 likesthe matrix is cracking... that's the real explanation
0 likesJiffy is also probably because of jiffy lube
0 likesJust like the prisoner emoji. We all seem to remember but it doesn’t exist.
0 likesI'm so confused I thought for sure that was a thing
0 likesI always said doubled stuffed oreos
0 likesWhy everybody knows the concept of "cornucopia"?
0 likesThere's gotta be a better explanation... Like I remember this shit so vividly
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I swear there was a famous painting with a bunch of fruit spilling out of a cornucopia I can’t find it because I forgot what it was called though, maybe that is it?
0 likesMe: yeah wait I think there were bananas in the background....
26 likesEmp: people speculate there was a cornucopia behind the logo
Me: ....
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I mean hey, if we're already considering alternate universes, you could always fallen in from a third banana timeline :/
3 likesI thought the cornucopia was the loom...
0 likesI remember seeing it on the logo
0 likesPeople remembering a brown object on their underwear... wait a minute
0 likesHoly shit this fucked with me hardcore
1 likeHOLY SHIT. The ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny.... I have not thought about that in YEARS. 10:45. THANK YOU.
3 likesI just watched the Dale Earnhardt video before this one and I didn't even notice the typo
0 likes12:32 jerma reference in emp lemon video epic
0 likesI COULD'VE SWORN I SAW THE CORNUCOPIA ON THE LOGO WHEN I WAS YOUNGER
0 likesI don't remember a cornucopia in the logo, only after I saw it on Reddit.
0 likesThe thing about the cornucopia that makes me feel so confident about it is that I specifically remember the stylized cornucopia that looks like the one you had.
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Exactly. Like WHO drew it exactly like that? It's easier to remove something that exists from a picture, than add it in, exactly as it was in thousands of people's heads, down to the black lines..
0 likesWow I did not notice the misspelling of speedway
0 likesShit like this makes me think that time travel does exist.
0 likesCornucopias can't melt steel beams.
0 likesBut it it never existed, how come the "edit" looks just how I remember it?
Berenstain Bear effect... alternate universe collides again...
0 likesHowever, there is a Jiffylube.
0 likesHowever, there is a Jiffylube.
0 likesI remember seeing it on the tag
0 likes2:00 Foreshadowing the Wizard of Oz video
0 likes"...or whether the tip of Pikachu's tail is black..."
4 likesI think that one's just a common misconception, as in Gen 6, there was a Pikachu with a black-tipped tail, cosplay Pikachu; a female Pikachu given to the player to use in contests.
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Yes, but people have been remembering and depicting fan art with it long before gen 6.
0 likes@Christopher Hubac Fair point, I just found it odd to bring it up in this later account, but I guess that makes sense.
0 likes@Skies of Icarus reasonable
0 likesI bought a FOTL shirt only because of the logo.
0 likesMaybe we getting it confused with thanksgiving shit
0 likesNah bro we def had our universes mixed somehow. I'm not in the right place anymore
0 likesYou already answered it; it’s the Mandela effect; the result of us smashing into us.
2 likesThanks to the super large hadron collider.
At a point Occam’s razor says it’s the only logical explanation, we can’t all keep being wrong about everything with clear and formative memories of things that don’t exist
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lmfao occams razor? "yeah a bunch of people cant make the same mistake and then spread it around until other people misremember too, it has to be ALTERNATE UNIVERSES AND STUFF! That's the most reasonable explaination!"
1 likeNEVER STOP MAKING FANTASTIC CONTENT. EVERY TIME YOU UPLOAD IT MAKES MY WEEK.
5 likesI don't remember a cornucopia. Guess I am in the minority
0 likesThe mandela effect is real, check out Brian S Staveley
0 likesI thought it was doubled stuffed
0 likesi vaguely remember something else had the almost exact logo with a cornucopia but i can’t remember what it was.
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school pictures of Thanksgiving. you wwre abiut that age probably where you related things.
1 likethe table set up with a cornucopia of veges and fruits...and then fruit of the loom ads on TV.
you go back to memory today and while you are more mature, when you go back to those thoughts ut really can only be in the eyes of younger you who qwre JUST trying to relate the world and categorize and understand. You try to put more logic into that younger you..your brain goes through a fixing solution, and you fix that image of Thanksgiving tk that brand tag...and when you picture it, it's hard to not picture it now.
I like how people are more likely to believe they jumped from one universe to the other where an underwear logo is slightly different than to concede that they might be wrong
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I think it's more because there are so many people who remember it a certain way. Also a few people here even have memories of learning about what a cornucopia really is from the fruit of the loom symbol.
4 likesI myself at first didn't really remember one from the logo, but as the video progressed I remember seeing a variation on some underwear a while back. So now i'm in a sort of disbelief limbo
@NormalAF people are surprisingly good at convincing themselves something happened one way or another, John Bohannon has published articles on peoples memories changing in just 5 months of major events (his example was where people were and how they reacted to the challenger disaster in 1986)(google John Bohannon if you’re interested, but the study is locked behind a paywall unfortunately) the aspect affecting people is peer pressure, which can easily influence anyone, no matter how confident they are in something. (I can’t be arsed to find a proper study, but I think Darren brown did an experiment on it for you to enjoy) if there’s no evidence to support an idea you have, you have to be critical of your idea.
2 likes@Staringcorgi6 How? Can you debunk the existence of parallel universes? No you cant because we cant see anything outside of our reality. Can you debunk flat earth? Yes because its fucking obvious the earth is round. Can you debunk vaccine causing autism? Yes very easily. So tell me how believeing in parallel universes(which is rather common and is a somewhat reasonable concept) is dumber? Please enlighten us.
6 likesBecause you're denying people's long-term memories
0 likesCERN and their time travel experiments smh
1 likeI don't recall the cornucopia but can see how someone might. This whole thing lost all mystique when the Flintstones thing came up though, because I had a debate with my friend Mark in grade 5 (1993) about them... he spelled it without the "t" and I corrected him. He didn't believe me, and I told him what flint was and he thought it made sense but still thought I was wrong. Then we went to my house after school and I showed him a plastic Flintstones cup I had and that was the end of that.
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I’m willing to say all other Mandela effects are complete bullshit but not the cornucopia on the fruit of the loom logo.
0 likesI remember there was NOT a cornucopia on the logo
0 likesApparently humans us ECC memory?
0 likesthis has very much upset me, where's the cornucopia
424 likeswhere is it
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in your heart
27 likesIn your mom, oh yeah i'm so cool 😎
7 likesAlive in our memories, even if it shouldn't be alive in our memories.
12 likesmaybe the real cornucopia was the friends we made along the way
13 likesin the center
0 likesIt fell in the void sea
1 likeIt has ascended past our mortal coil
these replies are gold
2 likesA rare rain world fan!
3 likes@Cidball Cidball we exist in the deepest reaches…
2 likeslurking
I have no idea what Fruit of the Loom is
0 likesremove the grapes and add the cornucopia, then gaslight everyone
0 likesone thanksgiving the fruit had a commercial where people were in the fruit suits and they come out of a giant cornucopia they all were waring the underware implying they made for all sizes of people>?
0 likesalright, he pulled up the image, where is he? 2:18
0 likesTaken from the NZ article:
186 likes"I'm literally sitting here in tears feeling like I'm about to have a panic attack. My entire understanding of everything has been shaken to the core," writes Reddit user dontevenknowanymore_.
Jesus Christ I hope the article mistook sarcasm for realism
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It’s not even a real person, I tried looking it up
2 likes@Tanner201X it does exist
0 likes@Mulan - Jingles e Músicas ...... Or is it?
0 likesYeah I’ve never even seen that fucking icon before lmao or atleast noticed it, or heard of the brand
1 likeThe underwear gnomes took all the cornucopia drawers
0 likesIt's interesting because I remember Fruit of the Loom had a cornucopia in their logo when I was around 4-7 years old. After 2009-2011, the cornucopia completely disappeared for me. I forgot about until it until I saw this video. Thanks, Emp for reminding me of this mystery.
2 likesI can distinctly recall a memory of being somewhere between K-3 grade and having to color in that exact picture for Thanksgiving, and asking the teacher why the fruit of the loom logo was in the the Thanksgiving coloring sheet. That was the day I learned what a cornucopia was. We need to check McGraw Hill teaching material between the years 1991-2005. Bet we'd find something.
2 likesI'm not sure if I just remembered the cornucopia, but honestly I think I just like it better. It just feels right, and when it's not there it just isnt the same. I wonder if people in different cultures view this the same way.
2 likesI remember it too very vividly actually and i think that’s how i learned of what a cornucopia was too and just called it a loom, as far as the stain vs stein goes I never saw that at all, I always remember it being stain because the theme song made it pretty distinct but like you said it makes sense considering that stein is a common ending for some surnames, it’s like how when people talk about ed edd n eddy and call “rolf” “ralph” because ralph is a name that people actually know so they just hear what they want. When his name’s never been ralph, I remember when I was in 9th grade there were a lot of people calling him ralph and years later some people online too
0 likesMy guess for the Pikachu tail thing is that in its party sprite the ear lines up perfectly with the end of the tail and looks like part of it, though it's likely not the case because supposedly people saw it with the stripe back in the indigo league anime way before gen 3 when the sprite was introduced
1 likeThe fruit of the loom logo has
0 likes1) a bunch of colors, all being relative to a more cartoony autumn
2) a bunch of food. Some people don't put everything into food groups
3) following number 2 is the leaves. The apple is big and round similar to a pumpkin, so people assume it mentally to be a pumpkin of sorts and add that cornucopia in the back.
Diagnosis: mentally separate creative thought from memory, it'll keep things like this from happening.
I'd never heard of a cornacopia when I was a kid I might see one on a thanks giving card every once in a while but I'd always remembered seeing one on my underwear but eventually I stoped using fruit of the loom and eventually I found an old pair of underwear with no cornucopia I got confused and ended up here.
2 likesI've always thought the mandella effect was just a case of bad collective memories, but this one certainly is interesting.
0 likesI think it's because of the leaves which surround the fruit, which subconciously creates the image of the fruit sort of being nested inside some sort of object, and unlike many generic "fruit" logos, the fruit is nicely arranged in a way that makes it seem like a decorative fruit display. so when recalling the logo, and picturing a decorative fruit display nested in an object, it seems natural to imagine a cornucopia.
0 likesI recall finding it strange that there was a cornucopia and the name was "Loom". It didn't make sense. Though, I never actually recall examining the logo. I'm totally with you on this video.
0 likesAwesome channel man, subbed. Serously entertaining stuff. You got me into NASCAR
0 likesWhat if people are remembering the fictional versions of the logo? It's incredibly possible that film and art companies added a cornucopia to help distance themselves from the official logo, and thus lowering the chances for a lawsuit. Given the main people making this confusion are people in the age range for these movies and shows, it's possible they're getting the actual logo mixed up for the fictional one. I remember a version of the logo with many of the fruits found in the fake logo.
0 likesMy explanation: Fruit of the loom underwear sometimes had a oval around the logo that from far away looks like a front facing cornucopia
8 likesCame back to remind everyone that the universes definitely combined. I remember these cause i used to have bowel issues as a kid and saw that cornucopia in my briefs a lot. Addendum, mr monopoly definitely had a monocle, and mandela died in 94.
0 likesThis could be a US only phenomenon, it's very unusual to see a cornucopia in the UK, thanksgiving not being a thing here. I never thought of the fruit of the loom logo having a cornucopia and suspect most of the UK population would say the same.
0 likesThat's not at all how I pictured you would look like but exactly how I would picture how you would look like!! I've been watching you since I was 10 years old during the YTP days. You're an awesome YouTuber!
0 likesI’m very proud of myself for knowing which penny was the real one
0 likesIn my job I decorate FOTL t-shirts, I have been doing it for 10 years and if you told me to describe the logo from memory I would tell you that it was just the fruit
1 likeI’m 15 and I remember specifically that when I was little I would always get fruit of the loom, and I recall seeing a cornucopia.
0 likesI can safely say that I've never imagined it to have the cornucopia
0 likesit throws the whole balance of the logo off
in the movie “driving miss daisy”, starring morgan freeman, in the final scene, when miss daisy is in the nursing home, there is a ‘fruit of the loom’ esque looking logo on the wall, seemingly a decoration, complete with cornucopia. could there be that there is another design that is similar looking to the fruit of the loom logo?
0 likesI like the multiverse idea... then again, I struggle to remember what I did only a week ago 😂
0 likesDude as soon as you showed it i literally said out loud "yeah" like it made more sense like that lol. I just thought that they got rid of it. So it never had the cornucopia? Lmao
1 likeBest guess... it did exist but fruit of the loom removed it, wiped the internet, and burned the clothing In order to prevent being canceled over the cultural insensitivity of using a Native American icon for retail
1 likeI freaked me out when I saw this because I thought that a lot of companies where just rebranding, and when they said it never existed I was like bull shit because I remember having them as a kid in the 80s and 90s
0 likesA theory of mine is that the brain whenever it got uncomfortable with so much available space and with so much available space it automatically fills the empty space with something that is large and fits in the theme of the object in whatever means possible
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That doesn't explain many people "filling in" the space with something they had to as what it was
0 likesIdk i thought of It in 5 minutes
0 likesI don't think most people have studied the fruit of the loom logo in detail. I assume when they try to recall it, they remember (probably mostly in part by the name) that it has a group of fruit and their brain just fills in the gaps. I've learned not to fully trust my memory, because the more we realize we're very commonly misremembering these details makes me wonder how common this actually is in humans
0 likesYou know what I remember I was getting shirts and underwear for school I think I was in a Walmart and we got Fruit of the Loom and I looked down on the tag it had a cornucopia.Thats the main memory I had with the cornucopia, but there are some other memories with the cornucopia though not as clear.
0 likesI remember it with a cornucopia quite well. I'm actually shocked that you're telling me it wasn't there. No. Sorry there's something to this.
0 likesThis was not about a cornucopia, it was a lesson about living in the moment.
0 likesIt seems like anyone who didn't want a copyright claim, like someone making a knockoff or a reference to Fruit of the Loom, added the cornucopia because it would make the logo different but wouldn't get in the way of how recognizable it was, and then people remembered those alternative brands and references as the real thing. If the people referencing it in cartoons put it there because they remembered it that way too, then I guess that's where it gets freaky.
0 likesThe mandela effect was originally called False memory syndrome and the concept was around a long time before mandela.
0 likesAt first I remembered it being there, but then I determined it was likely just a coloring page I did when I was young, likely with the same or similar stock image
1 likeThere was at some point a budget clothing brand that used a logo with cornucopia. Most memories of the FOTL logo with a cornucopia are from the age period where you had to ask an adult what an object was. This is same age period where you may have been shopping for back to school clothes at major chain store. I believe that Target,K-Mart and Wal-Mart sold a budget brand in the 90s that we are mistaking for FOTL.
0 likesIn the case of pennies, coins are minted all the time as old coins tarnish and corrode. It's entirely plausible that different word placements were used
0 likesi never paid attention to it so i don’t really remember the cornucopia, but i did have a painting in my childhood home that had a cornucopia with apples and grapes so maybe people with similar decorations around thanksgiving would remember that given the art style of the logo
0 likesThis is making me think that illegal copies of Fruit of the Loom had the cornucopia added by mistake by the bootleggers. But without a pair with that logo, or the packaging, its just a guess.
0 likesWow, this is weird, I remember it to. I remember it being on the packaging but I don’t remember about it being on the underwear itself, though it might of been, I remember it from the early to mid 2000s where I was 3 to 5 years old.
0 likesThe cornucopia should be on the left unless whoever made that graphic design intended the fruit and the cornucopia to be shaded oppositely.
0 likesThere was a cornucopia. I do remember hearing that Mandela died as a kid. I remember it being Berenstein and pronounced barren steen. I also remember 2012 being fucking weird and everyone was spiritual and into paranormal shit briefly.
0 likesMaybe the company used an unlicensed or not properly licensed logo long ago and they don't want to admit that they did so as that could open them up to a lawsuit. One designer said coke stole his logo design and fought them for years.
0 likesThey might have also used the logo on some product labels long ago and nobody kept a record of that and nobody at the company remembers now. Also for it being easy to find proof, I doubt many pairs of underwear briefs from 40-50 years ago still exist as they get worn out after a few years.
the solution is to add the cornucopia to the logo and make the word "loom" a synonym of cornucopia. make our memories retroactivly correct. its rude for it to be otherwise
0 likes5:04 no. the angle of the logo and the orientation of where the "fruit" is placed in the logo plays a crucial part in this
0 likesI think the leaves is what I'm thinking of because I don't remember the swirly part on the cornocopia
1 likeeh.
0 likesYou learn about Thanksgiving in school at a young impressionable age and you see images of various fruit in a cornucopia and then you notice the Fruit of the Loom tag around the same time. Then 15-20 years go by and you never think of them again until this comes up.
Everyone is just misremembering.
If I was to guess why we all think there was a cornucopia behind the logo, is when we were taught what a cornucopia was as children (learning about thanksgiving normally) a traditional picture and layout of a cornucopia looked similar to what the fruit of the loom logo is. Like most people say, the cornucopia looks right behind it. It doesn’t feel out of place.
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I think I remember a November calendar having a picture of fruit with a cornucopia when I was a kid. Still hard to believe the FOTL logo didn't have one tho
0 likesI don't remember a cornucopia but it was definitely Berenstein Bears (also I appreciate the Jerma/Star_ reference at the end there)
0 likesAs someone who has had a pikachu profile pic for the last 10 years, I can confirm his tail has never been black
0 likesI am using the innerwears made by Fruit of the Loom which are the most comfortable cotton innerwear.
0 likes3:25 yes it is. many AMERICANS would associate the logo with a cornucopia because it is implied by the vast amounts of "fruit"
0 likesI... honestly always assumed there was a cornucopia
0 likesthat's weird. REALLY weird
In my opinion the Mandela effect is a justification of false memories in an attempt to spare a person's own pride. They refuse to admit that they're memories are fallible and continue on in their own arrogance.
0 likesI always appreciate the jerma references
10 likesi think they just looked into the downward spiral, till they've found out it was secretly in the logo of fruit of the loom
0 likes“Both memory and underwear are doomed to wind up permanently stained with something we don’t quite understand” 😆
0 likes2:17
0 likesGo straight down from the man driving the yellow-and-white sailed sailboat, until you hit the first green/white striped towel barrier thing. Waldo's on the right end of the barrier.
I hadn’t thought of it for a while but now that I see this, I do remember a cornucopia
0 likes3:59 How on earth is cornucopia more common than heatwave? 🤔
0 likesThis is by far the best Raycon add entry I jave seen
0 likesWearing Fruit of the Loom clothing is a sure sign you've fucked up somewhere.
0 likesThx I love ur videos, I’m personally Mandela effected, 6 ppl in the jfk car flipped me out, they call it an anchor effect
0 likesThis sort of thing is why it annoys me when artists get annoyed about people taking photos and videos at concerts. It's the only way you're going to remember it in a few years
0 likesive never heard of the fruit of the loom before but i swear the logo is missing something
0 likesOr someone is testing out paradox resolution caused by time travel in some cases.
0 likesIt looks wrong without the cornucopia.
3 likesI remember the cornucopia on the left side and the fruit was spilling out of it
0 likesI literally raised my hand in class when I was little to smugly explain that "it's called a loom" when seeing a cornucopia. Because I'd seen it on my clothes a million times before - fruit coming out of a cornucopia, labelled "fruit of the loom".
0 likesI remember them for my old PE kit 😂
0 likesI always remembered the fruit of a loom logo without the cornucopia
0 likesThe fact that it was in books and other forms of media shows there's a glitch in the matrix. Case solved
0 likesThe only time I think about a cornucopia is when I think of fruit of the loom
0 likesI literally remember the cornucopia. But I haven't worn fruit of the loom since I was 7
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Probably from other people
0 likesThat underwear metaphor is way too accurate
0 likesI've never heard the word "cornucopia" so many times in my life
0 likesYou know, You could have gas lit us all by making one of those Mandela effect examples. and almost no one would have said anything
0 likesI feel like God reached down and placed the cornucopia memory in random people's brains and is now eating popcorn and laughing at our confusion
0 likesI'm british and even I remember the logo with a cornucopia even though they don't sell their products over here, or atleast I don't think they do.
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they do, i live in the uk and ive snagged some of my dads tshirts which happened to have the fruit of the loom logo on it. For some reason i can remember it both w the cornucopoa and without it.
1 likeYep, I seem to recall clear memories of a cornucopia on their logo as well. Weird shit.
0 likes"Unfortunately both memory and underwear are doomed to wind up permanently stained with something we don't quite understand"
2 likesthank you for this sentence I will cherish it
Fruit of the loom should add the cornucopia to confuse people
0 likesMe, who has never heard of fruit of the loom in my life: I n t e r e s t i n g
6 likesI honestly just think this and the mandela effect was the biggest shitpost ever made, with people trying to bait a lot of people, where everyone plays even if they dont realized it yet.
0 likesI've never heard of Fruit of the Loom lol
0 likesMandela effect dictates it'd be impossible to give you proof because it wouldn't exist on this timeline. Basically if we crossed into a new timeline, then it never had one here and looking up old clothing will not have it. It is a very insidious glitch. You are meeting two shards and overwriting differences. If you did that to your files they would all move in and any files that swear you were different will have no way of believing you or any attempt at proving it to them them.
0 likesAll this time I missed that The Simpsons had zombies all along
0 likesI remember it being Double Stuft Oreos. Google Double Stuft Oreos and see how many people spell it that way without even mentioning the Mandela Effect.
0 likesWhat if there was a Cornicorpia on the Fruit of the Loom logo but it's a glitch in the matrix
0 likesI don't remember the cornucopia on the underwear itself. But I do remember it on some of the packaging. But that's probably just a false memory
0 likesI remember wondering at some point if they changed there logo. I remember that cornacopia
0 likesI’m thinking there must be another fruit themed logo with a cornucopia
0 likesKeepupthegoodwork
0 likesIt might have been the old Hannaford logo, which is strictly a northeast thing
0 likesEmp, I really like your content but God fucking damn is the Mandela effect stupid.
0 likesI know you are just trying to explore the topic but it’s infuriating to hear about people who have bad memories convince themselves they are privy to some secret information (or more often are far too confident in their own abilities), then being emboldened by other idiots who are ‘so sure dude, I swear it used to XYZ’
Wish people would stop encouraging doublethink. Schizo or state actors, you decide.
Wait so does that face reveal entail that emp is canonically yellow
0 likesSo that's why I always spell "favorite" as "favourite!" Well, no going back now.
0 likesUsing Kazam as an explanation for the Sinbad movie is really bad. Because I watched the Shaq Movie religiously and I still remember a Sinbad movie and know that I'm not mixing the 2. I actually vividly remember a scene from the Sinbad movie.
0 likesMaybe there was a generic store brand that every state has that has a cornucopia.
0 likesSo the mandela effect at its most basic is the development of a big-scale collective false memory of an object, image, sound, and like with this logo one parts that is quite specific.
0 likesHah I was right about the penny 🤣
0 likesThe aliens came and took our cornucopia!
2 likes28-3 Wdym we don’t remember the lead the Falcons threw 😂
0 likesdamn brah, I've been using bootleg underwear all my life
0 likesthis gave me adrenaline rush
0 likesIf you have a pair of underwear from the 70s, don't use it to prove theories on the internet until you sterilize them.
0 likesThank you for the Jerma and Star reference
0 likesI swear to god I had some clothes that had the cornucopia on it but I cant find them anymore.
1 likeNever thought I’d watch a documentary about a Mandela underwear
0 likesI cannot be convinced that the cornucopia never existed on the logo.
0 likesI love having false memories
2 likesIn an old study, Psychologists were able to convince the majority of people surveyed that they had ridden in a hot air balloon when they hadn't. All it took was a 5 minute fake photo. Some people even gave vivid details about the event that never took place. The human memory is actually quite terrible.
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Could you point me in the direction of this study? I'd be interested in reading about it, sounds pretty cool.
0 likes0:55 Did anybody else think it was "The Bearenstain Bears?" (Notice I added an A in the first syllable.)
1 likeI remember the ending of this video being a parody of red letter media
0 likes8:59 Wait, on that underwear, in English they claim it's made in Tanzania, but in Spanish it's made in El Salvador.
0 likes5:19 genetic memory is a real thing you know.
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Testing has been done on mice related to taste in cherries but genetic memory like remembering words or anything related to something you would see in an assassins creed game is impossible
0 likesI honestly don't know if I remembered the cornucopia there before this video or not.
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Wait no I remember now. I remember being young and feeling like a horn of plenty belonged on the logo because I didn't see a pile of food without some kind of basket anywhere else.
1 likeAdd that to kid brain not knowing what a loom was and boom, false memory.
Also, why is the baby version of Looney Tunes called "Tiny Toons"?
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that's actually a solid point
0 likesIt's Jim Beam not Jim Bean. Welcome to the new dimension...
0 likesThis is a side effect of time travel
0 likesI used to think the Sompsins were yellow.
0 likesCheck the Commisary Logo, it’s similar enough. I am unsure if this was mentioned in the vid but it’s pretty similar
0 likesCornacupia was there 1000% I wore those everyday when they got rid of it I thought oh weird they got rid of the fucking cornacupia
1 likeMaybe I can end this once and for all.
0 likesHere's a video that shows a pack of underwear I bought that has the cornucopia on it: https://youtu.be/d0tGBCCE0lc
But that Hunger Games/cornucopia reference, though
0 likesOr, perhaps it wasn’t the company that removed it. Simulation theory anyone?
0 likespff that's what some one from the non cornucopia universe would say.
2 likesWhat if they put the cornucopia on like 1 out of every 100 packages just to fuck with people.
1 likeBruh im telling you, the basket was there and it was BerenSTEIN not Berestain....WTF man
1 likeHonestly, the Hunger Games probably made the use of the word cornucopia more prevalent
10 likes"at the end of the day does it really matter?"
78 likesYes
wait, pikachu didn't have a black tip at the end of his tail?
0 likesGreat video
0 likesI really hope a bunch of people in the future don’t remember the Simpsons as being green.
5 likesthey had physical evudence for the berenstein bears on old vhs tapes
0 likesMAGA actually means Mexican American Grocers Association. How very apt.
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@Egg T You can't say it's useless if you're only learning of it from this comment. I sure did, and golly am I glad to have gotten that "learn something new" off my to do list today, thank you OP
18 likes@Smokey Edits You're welcome. I got this random fact from somewhere in this video FWIW.
13 likes@Egg T I tried, but sadly Youtube won't let me remove your comment :/
9 likesMake America Shop at Ranch Market again
3 likesEmpLemon face reveal??? I'm here for it
13 likesHoly crap I just threw out a shirt with the cornucopia on it
0 likesHuh, I clearly remember none of this.
1 likeNot present in my country lol
Imagine, just imagine, buying a pair of raycons.
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I did there pretty decent good sound like the charger and it stays alive for a while , bit of small cord to charge and it makes a weird sound when it dies
0 likesI’ve heard that they’re no better than those bootleg AirPods you can buy at Kroger. I kind of have to respect them a bit since they pay youtubers more than the site itself does at this point though
0 likesLol the “Mexican American Grocers Association” (MAGA) that was funny
168 likesguess i refreshed youtube at the right time
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Yep
3 likesSame
2 likesSame lol
1 likeYep
2 likesSame here
0 likesAnonymongoose same
0 likesYep
1 likeWe all did
0 likesYep
3 likesYep
1 likeamen brother
0 likesemplemon upload is the best possible time to refresh
0 likesRefreshing like a new pair of underwear.
0 likesSame here
0 likesYeah
0 likesyea
0 likesSame ha
0 likesSame
0 likesOr did you? Did the video come out after or before you refreshed it? This is clearly showing that we have parrallel universes
0 likesLove it when it happens
0 likessame
0 likesSame LMFAO
0 likesi guess you did
0 likesI may have some underwear lying around somewhere old enough to have this logo...
0 likesIm just watching the movie casino and right after the part on the golf range with the planelanding, there is a fruitstore with a cornucopia and fruits on it. i dont know if thats an easteregg or maybe its one reason why people wrongly remember.
5 likesI was born in 2007 and I remember a cornucopia
1 likeWait? There was no cornucopia?
0 likesThe thumbnail for this video had blur on the cornucopia or the fruit?
1 likeThis proves that the brain creates the entire reality we live in, but with a 99.9% accuracy, the 0.01% being the mandela effect
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sexy
0 likesWhat about the last 0.09% ?
1 likeI would say that it is less accurate than that.
0 likesWhen you tell someone they remember something that they dont, you have planted that memory in their head and when their brain pieces it together trying to remember "was that there" you get "i remember the cornucopia too".
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Maybe in the weak willed, but not all
0 likesBut not for me though, I swear I remember it.
0 likes😉
0 likesJoke's on all of you guys I haven't worn underwear in a decade
1 likeWhen he was talking about the relevance of the word cornucopia I was like “haha hunger games” and then he goes “...or from the place in the hunger games” I fell backwards in my chair
10 likesDBZA
66 likes“What do you call a group of Namekians?
Piccolo: A cornucopia.”
All the way in the Bahamas, and I remember it.
0 likesI haven't worn nor have I even remotely thought of Fruit of the Loom underwear since Elementary School, I'm 20 now, and I definitely remember that Cornucopia being there.
5 likesI heard Jerma985 at 12:35... but I DEFINITELY remember it being Jerma986 at some point.
0 likesI think the Mandela effect reminds us that reality is not as concrete as we think it is. Why minor things appear to change as our consciousness moves through time? That is the question
9 likesIdea: upward spiral
0 likesThere will never be another cartoon like King of the Hill
3 likesAnyone remember when the actors dressed up as GIANT fruits?
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That shit was scary
1 likeWAIT THEY DID WHAT XD
3 likesIn my memory, curious George had his tail on the front
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No bro that was DBZ great ape
0 likesgeorge pp
2 likesHow did this never show up in my sub box?
0 likesEvery year before school started in September, my mom would take me to Sears to get new school clothes for the year. This was in the early to mid 70s for Elementary and Jr High school. I could swear there was a cornucopia on these at that time. Both on plain white t shirts and the tighty whiteys.
6 likesWait capri suns dont have a cornucopia?
0 likesMy company's shirts are made by this company!
0 likesThe only explanation is Ruin’s influence. Everybody remove any metal piercings
6 likes“ memory and underwear are doomed to whine up stand with something we don’t quite understand.”
11 likesDamn that shit deep
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So.... stained with something that isn't poo?
1 likeKnight Wing idk man, that shit runs deep and green
0 likesI was just writing a paper on unreliable memory. Now this pops up
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Are you gonna add what Emplemon said to your paper?
1 likeSpeaking of unreliable memory...........................................
2 likesI don't remember asking.
(Jk, jk, hope your paper gets an A, my dude.)
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5 likes"Ready to have your fucking mind blown?..."
How is that paper on unrelated memory going?
0 likesLol Curious George is one of the dumbest cases because it was a running joke that people called him a monkey but he was an ape, a chimp.
9 likesFruit (of a tree bush or vine) of the loom (the cornucopia which is weaved or loomed)
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So since a cornucopia is made on a loom. You could say fruit of a loom is actually a cornucopia? That makes things even more confusing
0 likes8:18 MAGA "Mexican American Grocers Association"
164 likesSometimes fact is funnier then fiction, what a damn coincidence.
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Was digging for this one
3 likes@Allin Rockwell thank you allin you solved politics
7 likes@Allin Rockwell Then I guess you know nothing John Snow.
5 likes@Allin Rockwell Holy racism, batman!
2 likes@Allin Rockwell If you use white supremacist dogwhistles such as 'the country my people and ancestors fought for and built', and imply that America is for white european men, hell yeah I'm going to call you racist. Racism is not just hatred, it's simply treating someone different because of their skin color. And saying your country is only for a specific race implies other races do not belong, which is pretty racist all things considered.
2 likes@Groyps My father lived under the fascist dictatorship of Trujillo. He watched as some of his Hatian friends were slaughtered in the Parsley massacre. He lives in permanent regret that he did nothing to stop the dictator, nothing to challenge his power. He just sat back and pretended it wasn't his problem until it affected him personally.
1 likeWhat you are doing is exactly what he did, exactly what I vowed never to do. You have no argument, so you attack me. You are, perhaps inadvertently, defending fascists by not taking a side. Or maybe you know this already. It doesn't matter, the end result is the same either way.
I will not stand idly by as fascism rears its hideous head, all the while ignorant centrists deny that it's even there. All the while ignorant centrists refuse to pick a side against it. Fascism is a rabid dog. There is no reasoning with people who want you dead for the color of your skin and the content of your character. There is no reasoning with people who only wish to oppress, not to provide anything for their community. There is no reasoning with people who, at the end of the day, follow an ideology built entirely on hate. By not standing in their way, you clear the path ahead.
I have one more saying that rings true to this very day. What you are trying to do, I can see the reasoning behind it. You wish to avoid conflict, I presume. Political violence must be avoided at all costs. No one wants the people they love to be attacked simply for their beliefs. But even the Reverend Dr. King Jr. utilized violence. King's words were backed by the Panthers, by Malcolm X. If the government did not listen, he had a fallback option. He avoided it at all costs, and thankfully never had to use it, but it was there all the same.
But this isn't simply a dispute on where tax dollars should go. This isn't a petty debate on who should be president. Fascism is a cancer, and by ignoring it, the tumors grow and grow until it reaches the very brain, in which case all is lost.
You try to do good, but in the end, everyone gets hurt. After all, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. My ancestors all did nothing against tyrannical regimes. Not my father under Trujillo, not my grandfather under the boot of the US, not my great grandfather under foreign occupation, et cetera. Whether it be through cowardice or pacifism does not matter. The end result is all the same. I am not them. I will not let the nation I call home fall to people who simply wish to destroy, never to build.
The day an honest-to-god fascist takes control of the US, not an opportunist such as Trump, I mean a Proud Boy or someone like them, is the day I, like many before me, and like many will after me, get off my knees and defend those who cannot defend themselves. I hope that day will never come, but one final saying keeps me on my toes.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
@Edward Sallow
0 likesDude, everything you just said, it's based as fuck. I wish more people thought like you did, the world would be a much better place.
The biggest question is why anyone cares this much about the logos and names
0 likesWhatever causes these sorts of things, it seems to keep happening to me. Just curious, but would anyone else here be surprised to find out that Tim Curry is still alive?
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Okay, that shit bothers me
1 like@Dillan Kabetzke Don't take it the wrong way. I have a lot of respect for him, and he's actually one of my inspirations. I had been living under the impression he was gone until just a few weeks ago. I clearly remembered finding out about his passing and everything, being saddened by the news, etc. Honestly, I wonder if I just happened upon one of those trolls people do every now and then, but usually any time I hear news like that I always do a troll check. No idea how it happened, and I don't claim any crazy circumstances beyond some bizarre memory situation I must have.
2 likes@Pensive Scarlet I’m on the same page as you. I had a mini heart attack when I read your comment because I was certain that he had passed.
1 like@Dillan Kabetzke Oh. Oh whoa. Well thanks for responding. Sorry I misunderstood. ;D
2 likes@Pensive Scarlet It’s all good!
0 likesI always thought it was Jiffy.... I hate you Emp. I hate you.
0 likesWow using smiling friends, a show that might not even exist, for a split second.
0 likesYou........you person.
Heyyy thats some jazzy end music...oddly reminds me i need my vcr repaired...
0 likesI’ve always been fascinated by the Mandela effect, like how Bela Lugosi never says “I want to suck your blood!” in Dracula.
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Or "Luke, I am your father"
0 likes@Jupiter that’s a good example to
0 likesor like from Water world (1995) "Dryland is not a myth; I have seen it," was never said in the film.
0 likesI remember a brand of raisins with a cornucopia, looked very simulate to the underwear logo
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Sun made raisins, red box with a lady on the front? I thought so too but looked it up and no cornucopia
0 likesYou’re such a smart fella that seems interested in a lot of things. I wonder what you are going to do in the future
4 likesA L T E R N A T E R E A L I T I E S
0 likes5:15 yes that’s how i learned what it was
0 likes“Guys guys guys! We’re in a different universe! I know this because this under wear brand, right, I SWEAR it had a different thing on it! You gotta believe me!”
5 likesYou've just crossed over into... the Twilight Zone. Downward Spiral, Downward Spiral.
24 likesonce i saw a chinese knock off of fruit of the loom spelt froot like frootloops and had the cornocopia logo so yknow~
0 likesThis is just more proof that we’re living in the Berenstain universe
5 likesMandela effect, is the most arrogant theory on the internet.
44 likesInstead of admitting that their memory is faulty, people on the internet seriously claim that they actually went into a parallel universe.
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Yeah, I loved the screen shots of comments from people who were Adam Ant that the logo had that baskety thing in it. Fruit of the Loom jumpers and T Shirts were quite popular here in the early 1990s, there deffo was no cornucopia. LOL at all the idiots who didn't know what a loom is.
11 likesRight? Maximum arrogance.
4 likes@daniel wiles oh no, I've been caught
6 likesMan is so perfect that rather than humor the idea that his memory is faulty he instead suggests that he gained the ability to cross into a parallel world, a concept that we only know as a concept and have no tangible evidence for. Man is never wrong, he knows all and remembers all.
3 likesMost people don't think that. The Mandela effect is just a name to describe collective faulty memory.
1 like@Mr. Potato Well considering that Ryan guy suggested that we're living in the matrix, it seems a decent amount of people believe crazy ass shit when it comes to explaining the Mandela Effect.
1 like@Mastegoh Hot damn, you dismembered that guy. Have some mercy.
1 like@Mastegoh Hot damn, you dismembered that guy. Have some mercy.
1 likeEmp Lemon: *uploads vídeo about literally anything
119 likesMe: “Whatever this is, it must be important. Linda! Cancel my appointments and hold all my calls!”
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Actually sir, they called to reschedule as well... Funny that
2 likesStack Overflows
2 likesLinda doesn't exist
0 likesLinda took the kids
0 likesI remember the Simpsons beeing yellow!
0 likesHonestly this video was great but it pissed me off cause I need answers. Not just "everyone had the same wrong memory" what are the odds of that???? How do so many people have the exact same false memory?????
0 likesIf there was never a cornucopia why does the one in this video look EXACTLY how I and many others remember it looking like?
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honestly probably just because it's drawn in the same artstyle as the rest of the logo tbh. thus it fits in with everything, looks 'right'.
24 likes@Cernunnos Then why do people remember the exact thing, line for line, color for color, and even remembering the cornucopia tilting to the right?
9 likesCause that’s how cornucopia usually look
8 likes@🌟 Officer Soul Knight Because memory isn't that good, so if people think it looks close enough, they'll think it's the exact same
5 likes@🌟 Officer Soul Knight Because "it fits" to them... but for many others it doesn't. You will only find remarkable some comments that agreed with your beliefs especially on this kind of conspiracy. They are asking "how much people agree with me?" but they are ignoring how much people doesn't agree with them.
0 likes@🌟 Officer Soul Knight Because they don't remember it line for line, they see it and say, yeah checks out, I remember that.
0 likesThe Loom/Cornucopia existed.
0 likesMany of us died in 2012 and woke up in this alternate dimension which is just slightly off from the dimension we were in previously.
I remember seeing this
0 likesDoes anyone else find it ironic and kind of funny that MAGA originally stood for Mexican American Grocer's Association?
0 likesI had to check my underwear. Not just for the logo but this video also made me shit myself.
0 likesIs this the first EmpLemon face reveal?
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You again? Just saw you on Angel's video... go to sleep ;)
15 likesNo he was revealed one or two years ago on Mumkey Jones
88 likesFirst on his main channel since the ytp era(without glasses/mask)
34 likesNah, Mandela effect, he always makes the outro like that
57 likes65 likes
2 likesNO.
@Copper 29 lol
0 likesHe's been on hungrybox before and him and his face was on it
14 likesDid you forget the Joker cosplay?
0 likesthe first i remember is the hungrybox stream when they reacted to the smash bros vid
1 likeHis face was revealed on a ytp channel in 2016
1 likeHis first face reveal was in one of his ytps years back. It was called “Admiral Ackbar’s Traptastic Sextravagana: Episode 3”. A 40+ minute ytp and in my opinion one of the greatest of all time. It’s been removed from his channel but you can find reuploads.
2 likes@CZsWorld hey. Love your videos!
0 likesNope
0 likesMy mans don’t know what an olive is
0 likeswe're in a different parallel universe
0 likesGood video
1 likeWhat a weak ending to good video. The FotL Mandela Effect is incredible and you chose to bail out...
0 likesThe thing about this is I don’t remember what it looked like but I do remember the logo was pretty symmetrical and with the cornucopia on there it just doesn’t look right
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That's probably why they never added a cornucopia to it in the first place
1 likeSTUFF IT IN THE CORNUCOPIA!
0 likesCORN!
STUFF IT IN THE CORNUCOPIA!
If there was never a cornucopia why do we all think it looks the same?
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because there's only one color we all see it as when we learn about it and there was a specific way to set it up. for art on images of Thanksgiving...like wheb you set a table, it's always a certain way.
0 likesimages were like that.
This logo was something you see everytime you pull your pants down at the urinal, so why
0 likes8:22 the Mexican American Grocers Association has the abbreviation of MAGA.
0 likesThis is one of those hidden gem YouTube videos that you never expect you'll enjoy so much. So well researched, scripted, and edited. Great job my dude!
1 likeI love the way your brain works. You approached this whole thing in very much the same way I would have and illustrated every point perfectly; this was an incredibly satisfying watch.
2 likesI love Emp's transition. The YTP era which he learned to resent, to the complaining era where he discussed the bad things of a lot of things ranging from YouTube to his personal life, to today where Emp brings up and discusses about topics that, while they sometimes aren't too relevant depending on the topic, are made intriguing and interesting by the same surgical precision as he did in his complaining era, which was akin the the likes of the Content Cop himself, Idubbbz.
1 likeIt's the best evolution of someone I've seen at all.
As someone who has never heard of the brand nor seen their logo I think it's the combination of two phenomena. First of all after seeing the proper logo and the logo with the horn of plenty I think the latter seems to look "right". In my opinion the position of the fruit is the key. The way they are arranged with the horn behind them looks "natural". This might be a result of us remembering how a horn of plenty looks in general and then superimposing this vague memory onto the logo. As for the memories of people asking their parents about the cornucopia it's probably the same situation as with Shazam movie. It's either two memories melted together or a memory of asking about cornucopia with the "memory" of the logo superimposed onto it.
0 likesThis is one of those Mandela effect things that are very US-specific, especially when it comes to brand recognizance. Fruit of the Loom is not really a big thing in the UK. It's familiar, and I guess it probably exists here, but I recognise it's name as being one of those American brands as opposed to something I recognise as seeing in my daily life as a brand people are wearing. What's funny is, I remember the cornucopia as well, because it just looks right, so I guess it must have been there. But I don't have that much experience with the logo or the brand itself anyway to say for certain. I clicked on this video, because I have no idea what the Hell it was going to be about tbh, and I was simply curious. It's the first I've heard of this phenomenom. It's certainly moreso people in America, reaching into their underwear and seeing the logo near everyday, as opposed to "people all around the world", and that's going to have a big difference of brand recognition
0 likesReminds me of something me and my gf experienced. We'd been going to the store and getting what we THOUGHT was called "Herbert's Lemonade." Then one day we looked at the bottle and it said "Hubert's." Both of us had remembered it saying Herbert's, but here was the apparent correct name.
0 likesWeird stuff man
I definitely remember asking my parents what the cornucopia was. Pretty sure I thought it was a loom. This was the early 00’s
0 likesWell Cornucopias usually have a bunch of fruit in them, and so seeing a bunch of fruit would probably entail a cornucopia. We don't have time to remember each and every fruit in the image and bundle it up as "fruit" Plus, thanksgiving is celebrated by millions of Americans, and it's such an iconic symbol that in my mind it's perfectly logical to think there was a cornucopia there. Except me because I didn't even know what fruit of the loom was until this point
0 likesive seen fruit of the loom things all my life and i never once saw a cornucopia or thought there was one. i am confused. the only placebo ive really been part of per se was the berenstein / berenstain bears. other than that i havent really fallen under them if that makes sense.
0 likesI actually noticed this missing cornucopia about two weeks ago at Target, never read anything about it on the internet.... I saw it two weeks ago at Target, and felt like something seemed.... off about the logo. Thought at that moment that maybe they redesigned the logo to something more simple, but it wasn't until a week later that someone brought this up on 4Chan, and just thought to myself, holy shit they never redesigned the logo?!
0 likesThe topics you choose to talk about are super bizarre but I'm really glad you do. Keep with the work, is very cool!
0 likesJust as an aside, I LOVE IT when I hear music that TheRealJims also uses (IE: Intoxica and abstractions of rain, as heard in this one).
0 likesi love that you're friends with rusty, didn't expect that one
0 likesI always had Fruit of the Looms as a kid, and I have zero memory of a cornucopia being there. That that was a Mandela effect really surprised me, because I never once experienced that false memory.
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That's weird, I'm 17 and I remember the logo having a cornucopia. You must be native to this timeline lol
0 likesI clearly remember when I was about 8 or 9 being really confused in the store because some of the underwear had the cornucopia and some didn’t. Like I picked up one package and it had the horn, but the second kind of underwear didn’t have it
0 likesI remember seeing the fruit of the loom commercials at the end of it when logo appeared 100% cornucopia was their. Yes it absolutely matters if there was one or not it proves the m. effect is real and timelines are being messed with. Leading to the only conclusion that time travel is real. How could it not matter. 🤷♂️
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Annoyingly there is no way to concretely prove or disprove such a thing
1 likeI like how in the first minute of examples he blew my mind several times
1 likeI have a theory of the reason the cornucopia is being misremembered. When we see pictures of the cornucopia they are very dull in color. The fruit of the loom logo is also fitting that dull color pallete. Combined with the fruit can lead people to misremembering the brand as having such a minute detail
0 likesYour references and music are on point as usual.
0 likesI remember that just 2 months ago i saw the "Fruit of the loom" logo on an underwear going to WalMart and i said "huh, where's the cornucopia? Maybe they reinvented their image to make it more simple" and moved on. I'm just shocked that it never existed wtf
0 likesI've been able to give very reasonable answers to all other popular Mandela affects. Even the famous "Luke, I am your father," one. Darth Vader never said "Luke". I remember watching Star Wars for the first time in like 2006 and I was anticipating the famous line I had heard so many of my friends quote. I remember being mildly perplexed when I heard Vader say "No, I am your father" instead. I shrugged it off at the time. People subconsciously put "Luke" at the beginning of the quote because it was such a powerful statement about Luke himself. It's also an incredibly simple way to add context to your quote so naturally the mind says "Luke". Arguably one of the most famous twists in all of cinema. I've heard my friends misquote other less famous movie quotes before like some of Thanos's lines from Avengers, but the Star Wars one is special because it was the most popular. It was such a widespread false memory that even James Earl Jones himself was fooled by it when recalling the line in a later interview. He probably had loads of fans asking him to say "Luke, I am your father" whenever they met him in person. Maybe he even signed some t shirts with the phrase.)
0 likesThe fruit of the loom cornucopia, however, is the only one I haven't been able to explain and it bothers me.
My brain hurt so much waiting for him to say THANKSGIVING 😭
1 likeI LITERALLY didn't even realize this was an EmpLemon until you used the downward spiral!
0 likesTo be honest, I'd never heard of fruit of the loom before
0 likesHi, foreign person with no prior knowledge of fruit of the loom, perhaps the vauge familiarity of the cornucopia image is a good reason? It feels more familiar to me dispite the fact Ive never seen it before!
0 likesI think when looking at an image of a cornucopia with fruits only (no pumpkin or signs of a seasonal theme), the first thing to come to mind is fruit of the loom and your brain just sees it in that way at that point forward because no one really pays attention to the tag of your underwear thus creating that effect of the cornucopia being there the whole time.
0 likesI know I had two at the same time cause I asked my parents about why the “loom” was on this one but not the other.
0 likesThe cornucopia that people remember might have come from movies after the design was changed to include the cornucopia to avoid copyright.
1 likeAs an Australian I never saw a cornucopia before or after seeing the underwear (which I remember there being a cornucopia on) so my brain would have no association of a cornucopia with fruits yet, I’ve always pictured the Fruit of the Loom logo with a cornucopia.
0 likesI have a vague memory of being in a supermarket and seeing some logo of a brand that sold spices i think. And the logo was basically what people are misremembering. So maybe that could be one reason how people are inserting a cornucopia.
0 likesI legit remember being on 1 of those how to draw websites and sketching pikachu with a black end tail. There is literally 0 chance of me ever finding the drawing but if your gonna tell me his tail is not black tipped then I'm fucking done trusting this universe
0 likesYour literally great. I want to own your videos on DVD
0 likesPretty sure there's a similar cornucopia in The Land Before Time musical scene with the young herbavore's feasting on leaves, fruits & berries. That's 90's, early 2000's.
0 likesAlthough I don’t remember a cornucopia on the logo, when I see it added, it doesn’t look weird at all. It looks like it should be there... weird
0 likesFinding your channel was/is a blessing.
0 likesI really have this memory in my mind, as a kid I saw my underwear and asked my mom what that twisted horn was, and why was it next to the fruits, she told me its name and why, and it was how I learned what a cornucopia was. I live a fucking lie. We all do, this is proof...
0 likesWe live in the fucking Matrix and thay was just a massive glitch!.
I think it was a huge troll by fruit of the loom, the made it really early and removed it and was like "what are you talking about"
0 likesDunno, it just doesn't convince me, aesthetically, that there isn't a cornucopia, like: is it really just a pile of fruit on the floor?
0 likes100% Remember being a kid and looking at the "Brown thing" in the back and wondering what it was. Multiple times...😲
0 likesI remember seeing a fruit of the loom logo with a cornucopia in a store long before I had access to the internet
0 likes9:57 such a good song, I love your content EmpLemon. Its Cruiser by ESPRIT (with some Japanese lettering that I'm too lazy to copy)
0 likesThere definitely was a cornucopia, I remember having an entire conversation about the Fruit of the Loom logo with a friend when I was like 9
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I believe you. I'm 17 and I saw it too as a kid. We're not making this stuff up. We have no reason to lie about something like this
0 likesI honestly thought this was going to be another “expose” drama video
0 likesI’m so glad it’s not
I never knew Fruit of the Loom made underwear, in Ireland they only have T-Shirts
1 like"Everyone remembers if they're older than 20 years old"
1 likeMe, a 21 year old who very clearly remembers watching that when I was little.
"Hee-Hoo, boom box genie go KAZAM"
I remember doing a fill in the color that had a cornucopia on it and looked kind of like that so maybe thats y ppl think it has a cornucopia.
0 likesGreat video EmpLemon 😀
0 likesIs nobody gonna talk about Emp revealing his entire face?
0 likesI remember getting fruit of the loom when I was a kid I remember the brown thing..I’m pretty sure the brown thing is real..seriously lol..I don’t even know what the brown thing is but I’m pretty sure Iv seen it before
0 likesIt was Bernstein bears not bernstain bears . I know it cause Stein is my uncle's last name and I always noticed his last name was in the title of the books
1 likeYou should do a "There Will Never Be Another Videogame Like Team Fortress 2."
0 likesThat Pittsburgh dad reference for the downward mug add is funny
1 likei never even heard berenstain bears before the mandella effect stuff
1 likeand my mind seems to wander towards the word stein for some reason.
I'm a young teen with little interaction with fruit of the loom. I bought a shirt of theirs a few years ago. Don't remember a cornucopia.
0 likesThis comment is for all of the 5-8 years old children who examined the tag of their underwear closely on one fateful day. All of us examined the words in their style FRUIT of the LOOM... FRUIT... LOOM.. what is a loom, is this thing behind the fruit the loom? This experience is CEMENT in the education of myself. The only time people like me have ever thought of it again is when someone said there is no cornucopia on the tag. This triggers one of the most vivid memories any of us have regarding looking at a clothing tag.
0 likesYou tell me why that matters at all. I just know this one is an intentionally strong memory that has been negated by aftereffects since its existence. It stands out in that regard. We examined it closely, and not just at a glance. CLOSELY. We LEARNED using it. It became a part of us, and now it never existed. You tell me why that matters at all.
What bothers me is that cornucopia is drawn exactly the way that looks right. The art style, size, and exact placement look like I "remember"
0 likesHowever, I'm aware that I'm wrong because mandela effect is bullshit
How many fucking memory analogies can Emp fit in one vid? Watch and find out!
0 likesI forget the exact context but my favorite use of the word cornucopia is “cornucopia of bullshit”
0 likesI don’t ever remember the fruit of the loom logo having a cornucopia...
0 likesa'ight. So far this is the only one that works on me. All of these false memories people have generally did not happen to me, but why this one? It's so specific. Oh well.
0 likesBro I remember calling that thing the "Loom"!!!
5 likesI never thought an underwear logo would give me an existentialm crisis.
0 likesIf the original logo had that cornucopia then why would the part hidden by the fruit be separately viewable for this video?
0 likesI remember the F.A.D Assault rifle in CoD Modern Warfare 3 having a "Rapid Fire" attachment. And Tainted love being featured in GTA VCS
0 likesTo all the doubters, can you confidently disprove the existence of parallel universes? because the math suggests they exist.
0 likesI could’ve sworn my old fruit of the loom underwear had that cornucopia. Huh.
0 likesI used to work at a Fruit of the Look manufacturing plant.
1 likeI can say with 100% certainty that in the early 2005-2006 era there were a certain amount of blue underwear that came with a tag that included a cornucopia in their logo. As a matter of fact, my boss’ office had a big portrait of the logo that included said cornucopia. I might even have a few of the underwear laying around, but I’ll have to check.
Part of the reason that the company doesn’t want people to know that it used to have a cornucopia is because I’m making all of this up, and I’m hoping to waste some people’s time with this absolute nonsense. But seriously guys, don’t believe everything you read on the internet.
My only guess for the reason people think that the logo had a cornucopia is Greek mythology. As someone who was raised in Greece I remember around the 3rd grade when we started learning Greek mythology there was a story about Athena or another goddess that brought people a cornucopia that had unlimited food. Most of the food was grapes, apples and pears if I remember correctly. If all those people learnt Greek mythology they would probably confuse the fruit of the loom logo because it resembled something from Greek mythology
0 likesThis is whack I've never really thought about this logo so I dont specifically remember a cornucopia but the image with one looks so much more familiar than the logo without it
0 likesI was born in 2003, I remember the cornucopia, My memory actually works from when I was about 6 years old and foword
0 likesI don’t remember there ever being a cornucopia, didn’t know there were people that did
0 likesthe fruit of the loom brown object is actually just someone else's shit stain shaped in such a way that it adds to the logo.
0 likesnow you all get to suffer with me
Jiffy most likely comes from the jiffy corn bread
0 likesHoly shit, I've just relistened WarioWare inc. song before watching your vid, and here you are listening to it as well in raycons ad. How's that even possible?
0 likesMy bet is that there was probably an off brand product that did feature a cornucopia and people mistake their early memories of this off brand for the real product.
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If it were simply a rebranding or a knockoff then nobody would be talking about it to begin with. There would be no mystery.. lol
0 likesYou see, the thing is there is no "off brand" with a cornucopia. At least not one that's popular, and there's a lot and I mean a LOT of people that remember it with the cornucopia. You don't realize how many memories are associated with this that don't make sense unless it WAS there. A lot of people have shared their anectodes online about this if you're willing to research it more ;p
I actually do remember seeing a cornucopia on the logo as a kid
0 likesYeah mine is due to ant bully, totally explained it for me
0 likesCornacopia. I do classical studies and went over the Nile God thise year and used it in my internal and external exams. That word now plagues my mind
0 likesHonestly, I'm just wondering why they have fruit for a logo. Was that ever explained?
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because its called fruit of the loom
0 likes@Mulan - Jingles e Músicas
0 likesYou know...Sometimes I surprise even myself with my own stupidity.
I distinctly remember this logo with the cornucopia. I can’t believe this is not true.
0 likesIt would be funny if The Mandela Effect was real, but the only thing that changed was the logo of Fruit of the Loom. Just that. Just the logo.
0 likesIt's really obvious this is because many people would call a cornucopia a loom...
0 likesjiffy could just be a nickname, like tim and timmy
0 likesI've never understood the pikachu example, tail was always yellow
0 likesSCP-1: force that makes people remember a cornucopia in the fruit of the loom logo
0 likes5:01 Ah yes, CapriCornucopia.
2 likesThis guy's videos all sound like he's padding a middle school essay out as long as he can
0 likesThe IB ToK coming in hot in the intro
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huh
0 likesI appreciated the Jerma/Star reference.
0 likesWhy did i change my mind about 100 times watching this🤔🤔🤔
0 likes3:16 hey I’ve seen this one before it’s a classic
0 likesI remember the damn cornacopia. 🤔
0 likesWe Miss you emplemon
0 likesI personally think it's cuzz there's so many realitys and we shift to different realitys every second soo think it's from us shifting to a different reality
0 likesWhat if one day you look at the logo and the tomato is not there that would be a trip
1 likedude im a 14 year old from britain who only ever saw this on school plain polo t-shirts and even I despite not knowing what it was have always ALWAYS seen the basket at the back.
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Same it's not like we have Thanksgiving in the UK I didn't even know what that thing was called yet I remember it on the fruit of loom logo
0 likesim gonna need some cornucopium after this
0 likesThis video is so trippy and not trippy at the same time
0 likesWe might be overcomplicating this a little. I think its just us confusing the logo with clip art images of cornucopias when we had to learn about thanksgiving.
1 likeNow I wish it had a cornucopia even though it makes no sense it just looks better idk
0 likesYou should do a video on flash games...
0 likesJust a misconception. There was no cornucopia
0 likesI remember a robber emoji. A guy in black/white strips running with a bag of money in his hand, but I can't find it.
0 likesdamn am i the only one who has never seen the logo or heard of it?
1 likeThat smile is haunting
0 likes4:10 Well there it goes for 2021
1 likeAh yes. The great mandela effect.
0 likesThis is a parallel universe. 100%. Please don’t kill me parallel cat universe rulers
2 likesBro the Government straight MK Ultra'd us on Underwear homie...damn
1 like"the award for most youtube comments generated on a video about underwear company logos goes to emplemon"
0 likesMaybe the cornucopia was only on the packaging
0 likesi REMEMBER going to fruit of the loom as a kid and looking up at the cornucopia on the building
0 likesMan this reminded me of the fact that my mother woke me up out of my sleep because she claimed I was the reason her boyfriend broke up with her because there was another dudes underwear which where fruit of the loom
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oof
1 likewtf even is this comment
5 likesOh wow emp lemon looks like a normal dude. Face reveal ahhhh.
1 likei was wondering if you’d ever bring up the Speeway thing, i don’t even know how i caught it watching that episode
9 likesThat was extremely cute
0 likesthis is one Mandela effect that gets me, i know i remember the cornucopia damnit.
14 likeswhy does this guy only have 690k subs?
0 likesProblem: You got the fruit of the loom logo wrong.
22 likesSolution: literally everyone else in the world is wrong except for you because at some unknown point you were transported to an alternate universe where everything else in the world is the same except the fruit of the loom logo.
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The thing is, I asked my brother without showing him the video and he said the logo had a basket. So a ton of people are getting it """right"""" (wrong).
2 likesand just like religion there is no way to know if we are right and no way to show verifiable proof of it being false or real.
1 like@Alexia Hoardwing WOAH watch out guys it’s a big brain atheist
2 likes@jakebun Wouldn't the ideology I mentioned be Agnosticism, not Atheism?
0 likes@Bootthis Nigr Talk of alternate reality is intrinsically linked to the foundation of the question of life and religion. However if you would prefer I refrain from talking the subject to you, I will abide by your wish from this point on.
0 likes@Alexia Hoardwing i’m not reading that lol
0 likesthe grapes in front of cornucopias is familiar just not from the logo.
0 likes2016: Why are the Simpsons green?
28 likes2020: Why is the Fruit of the Loom logo misremembered?
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kill
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3 likesThe only Mandela Effect that ever really screwed with me.
20 likesI'm just wearing their pyjamas right now lol.
0 likesDidn't you already address this in your Star Trek Retrospective?
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hi kenny
4 likeshmmmmm...
0 likeshi kenny
1 likeWDYM? I don't remember Emp doing a video on Star Trek.
6 likes@Alexia Hoardwing Are you sure?
12 likesWasnt it a star wars retrospective?
5 likes@Gronn no it wasnt, i perfectly remember it being a video about a company that made storm boards for a sturdier cealing in your house, how can you forget something like that man, that was one of emps greatest videos, it even had a cameo from inernet historian smh
2 likesoh yeah
0 likesI love this podcast, they should get William Shatner to be a guest
1 likeAh, I get the joke!
1 likeHmm
0 likesThey should add it and dump gasoline back onto that conspiracy fire
0 likesYou know what ? I’m telling the next generation that The Simpsons were always green.
4 likesGod.....that smile.
0 likesWhy is EmpLemon green? I hope the Mandela effect isn't tricking my brain...
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Hehehe
1 like“Hey google, show me some quality content”
25 likesthis video starts playing
Is it weird that new cars smell better than new shirts?
0 likesIts actually not completely impossible for people to developed memories of something that they didn't experience. Some famous examples are from 9/11, where people may remember vivid memories of being there even when they weren't even in the state at the time.
3 likesIt could be that those people saw the cornucopia on something else, then looked at their underwear and their subconscious combined the two without them realizing it.
I feel like this is the first time Emp’s shown his face and I’m certainly not disappointed 😳
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There was another time, that was when the Admiral ackbar ytb poop part 3 was released, half a decade ago.
0 likesLiked for King of the Hill <3
0 likesRegarding the Monopoly Man, Jim Carrey makes fun of a guy for looking like him while he wears a monocle in Ace Ventura .
4 likesAm I just the weirdo who never thought there was a cornucopia?
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Yes. There definately was one.
0 likesYou're not alone, I never even knew this was a problem for people assuming everyone knew there never was a cornucopia.
1 likeIt had a cornucopia on it until someone told me it didn’t. I specifically remember yesterday looking at my underwear with a cornucopia on it WTF
8 likesCrazy. I was just talking about this with my classmates yesterday. Conspiracy?
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I literally learned yesterday that the logo doesn't have a cornucopia and it still blows my mind. 😤
3 likesTurkish knockoffs sold in Romania in the late '90s had the cornucopia.
0 likesok but there definitely was a cornucopia on the logo
0 likesEveryone else: it has/doesn't has the cornucopia
30 likesMe, not even knowing fruit of loom existed: ok
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@Billy Bob most likely because I don't live in the US lol, I've never seen that brand here
4 likesrich kids...
0 likesI have never heard of it in my life because I’m not American
0 likesIs that a jerma reference at the end?
0 likesI remember the cornucopia on the tag before I even knew what a cornucopia was, and didn't have any way to possibly make connections. What the fuck
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now that you can make connections, your memory has been altered
0 likesWait- if it doesn’t exist them how come your video uses the EXACT CORNUCOPIA ART I remember it having!? This is crazy shit...
0 likesmaybe its the reverse, we see fruits coming out of a cornicopia when and when we see the fruits of the loom logo, we think "there should be a cornucopia there"
5 likes8:18 lmao "MAGA: the Mexican American Grocers Association"
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Now that's a spooky coincidence.
3 likesCaught that too. They shoulda sued Trump for taking their branding.
7 likes20th D chess my boy
1 likeLooney Tunes is called how it is because it was a show about songs for children at start.
0 likesThis video is underrated.
0 likes8:16 there is a mexican american groceries association and the irony is through the roof.
5 likesI always thought there was a bunch of bananas...
0 likesI dont care what you say, but the monopoly man had a glass
0 likesSome people apparently think Hitler’s eyes were Brown but they were actually blue
3 likesBut Hitler is like a popular historical figure
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probably because virtually every photo and video of him is black and white, and most people with black hair have brown eyes
1 like@Hardlydank Good point
0 likesTl;dr: Our memories are EMPerfect.
5 likesi am homer settling for the close enough universe
0 likesIt's almost like one person got it wrong, and then other people started remembering that version.
3 likesFun fact about black-tail pikachu: it DOES exist in Omega Ruby/Alpha Saphire as a cosplay costume for Pikachu.
4 likesWoah emp is green irl?!?!?
0 likesI swear there was a cornucopia. I remember, as a kid, looking at it and thinking it was weird.
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Same, but I guess we just transferred into a parallel dimension or realm or whatever, where it never existed, it did in the original one, but not this one.
0 likesThis beginning to this video could also be the beginning of a video titled "Why every programmer is dyslexic"
3 likes2:56
2 likesSo you're telling me-
10:36 man I can’t escape this shit
0 likesMy dude really looked at a frame from a 2012 episode of Southpark just to show a ten second example
5 likesI REMEMBER SEEING THE THUMBNAIL HAVING A DETAILED CORNUCOPIA INSTEAD OF A BLURRY ONE!!!!!
12 likesThat’s cool and all, but you’re wrong, the parallel universe one, is correct.
0 likeswhat the fuck i had no idea what fruit of the loom was and clicked this video expecting fruitsoftheape100 and got... underwear
0 likesSometimes I take my friend and slap his dog but then I need more information from women
0 likesThey hate me
"Unfortunately both memory and underwear are doomed to wind up permanently stained with something we don't quite understand"
5 likesI hate this quote, so, so much.
13:20 As if Cornucopia's are only associated with a U.S. American holiday.
3 likesDayum I did NOT see that promotion coming.
3 likesSpoiler alert at 10:35, Atlanta Falcon fans get triggered AF. lol
1 likeI was agreeing with everything until you told me that the tip of Pikachu’s tail wasn’t black. PARALLEL UNIVERSE IS REAL.
6 likesAnybody else know cornucopia because of that Even Stevens episode?
0 likesHe looks like a younger Seth macfarlane
0 likesFun fact if you lick a pair of dirty underwear they mix with a special chemical to make it taste like gummy bears.
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Omg! You're right!
1 likeWtf... it worked?
0 likesIt fits the logo tho
0 likesI do not ever recall a cornucopia in the logo
0 likesdude that ad was so smooth
0 likesI thought they changed it!
0 likesI'm about to dig through the whole house to find this logo...
10 likesedit: Only found a more recent item, it does not have the horn...
maybe ill find something else tho.
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Godspeed.
1 likeFast
0 likesAnd? Anything?
0 likesWOOP WOOP
0 likesATTENTION
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JERMA REFERENCE DETECTED
I REPEAT
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8:16 - There's a Mexican-American Grocer's Association (MAGA), which started in 1977 and thus predated a certain presidential campaign by nearly 40 years
0 likesis matt damon in this one?
0 likesWhat are the four horsemen of the apocalypse?
0 likesi'm starting to feel like i'm seing things, are the simpsons actually green or are my eyes fucked?
0 likesIt’s because every kid my age learned about the cornucopia every fall in 1st through 5th grade elementary.
0 likesSo...a lot of people are confusing their 2nd grade art class cornucopia picture they were coloring in with the fruit of the loom logo.
Gonna be honest i don't remember the logo ever having a cornucopia
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How old are you ?
0 likes@What born in 2006
0 likes@the gamer fan of fans that's probably why then lmao
0 likesIt is possible this is very, very important.
0 likesIt's also possible that this doesn't really matter.
[Disclaimer: I'm Australian, so I have no idea about the undies brand.]
Better watch this before it gets taken down for literally no reason.
17 likesThe logo doesn't even look complete without the cornucopia. I'm sick of this cornucopia-less bearenstain ass universe.
0 likesMy memory is that there is no cornecopea
0 likesIRL higashikata fruit parlor
0 likesIt’s strange because I’m not American and don’t celebrate Thanksgiving but I’ve also thought it had a cornucopia
0 likesAll I learned was MAGA also stands for Mexican American grocers association.
25 likesThere was Jiffy cornbread
0 likesTHEY PUT A RABBIT IN MANDELAS EAR WAAAAAKE UP
0 likesI will die on these hills:
0 likesIt's stein.
The cornucopia was there.
Mandela died in prison.
Rev. 21 = LION shall lay down with the lamb.
I VIVIDLY remember watching the Kazaam! Movie.
S. America is too far east.
Andorra did not exist.
and finally....
Pineapple will never belong on pizza.
9:45 - Who the fuck ever thought it was "The Flinstones"
0 likesDolly had Braces Damnit, otherwise, the scene where she and Jaws kissed doesn’t make a lick of sense. Trust me, something screwy is going on....
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You telling me she doesn't have braces?
0 likes@the pasta progenitor Nope, no braces on her....
0 likesNice try kid, but I was already well-written when Looney Tunes was still playing on television and I recall being upset regularly about the misspelling. There are others as well. You will not solve this puzzle with mind tricks. I have tried.
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And before you hide, my parents remember me complaining about it.
0 likesI do remember the cornucopia, but I cannot evidence it.
0 likeswho in the fuck are creating these "mandella versions" of the images
0 likesDownward spiral, downward spiral!
0 likesMan I tell you there are few people I respect more than emp probably my favorite YouTuber since 2014 I don't normally recommend youtubers but I do ol emp I hope things go well on the downward spiral for emp and everyone else
1 likeSo interestingly, I had never even heard of fruit of the loom or seen its logo before watching this video; but even I have a vague memory of seeing a cornucopia on some kind of logo as a child and wondering what that thing was supposed to be
1 likeSick documentary. Thanks for another cool video. I've been a fan on and off for a while but I finally subbed because really like the approach you take to your videos: they're just topics you enjoy. I've seen a lot of lesser YouTubers crumble under the weight of having one successful video and then pandering to that video's crowd and you've always actively discouraged that. Good luck with your next video!
1 likeLet me just say, I hadn't heard of you until I saw the Dale Earnhardt video a few months ago, and now I'm hooked. Your videos are all individual masterpieces. Greatest youtuber of all time.
0 likesYeah things can change pretty quickly in life and it always fascinates me how another generation grew up in an entirely different environment than me. Its going to feel so weird once Im old to reminiscine about the mundane things I enjoyed back in my early adulthood. Sadly some things also do get erased from the internet...for example the entire channel of leafy. Honestly, its a shame. I understand that he crossed a lot of lines but channels like his, edgy people just ranting in the developing years of youtube, are cherishable. Although I dont agree with a lot of stuff that he said in his videos, the double standard of youtube who deletes his channel but not others who do the exact same things is honestly frustrating. Its so annoying that everything on the internet and especially on big sites like youtube or instagram is so heavily monitored. The internet is not like the wild west, a free place, like it once was and thats what saddens me the most.
0 likesI would really enjoy a follow up on the Leafy video!
Yo emp I just wanna say how much I love how you present the videos. How you can deliver feeling in your videos. Your skills in using visuals to tell the story is something you do very well. Idk just wanted to comment saying i love your shit. AND UR YTP's
1 likeI think because the fruit of the loom logos used to be just line art with no color, it was a lot easier to see the grapes as a cornucopia. Especially when you see it from far away.
0 likesI remember there being a cornucopia from waaay back in one of their tongue-in-cheek commercials. Anyway, Fruit of the Loom should just throw the cornucopia in because it makes it their logo look way better.
2 likesWhen my mum was growing up, fruit of the loom was a top of the line, fancy and expensive brand
0 likesThe Mandela effect is fascinating to me. I love to go around asking my friends and family how they remember things and whatnot. My mother clearly remembers Mandela dying back in her past instead of him dying more recently. I've also remembered my mother talking about people who have died, only to find out a few years later that these people weren't dead at all. Of course, my mother saying certain movie stars had died could've just been her making a mistake.
2 likesThe only Mandela effect I've actually experienced myself was the Berenstain vs. Berenstein Mandela effect. I know it was brushed off a bit in the video as a mistake of people inserting the more common spelling into the actual name, but I disagree. When I was 4, I was learning how to spell my last name. My name has an "ei" in it that sounds like "ee" instead of saying it like the word "eye." As a result, I misspellt all words with "ie" as an "ei" in them because, when I pronounced them, they made an "ee" sound just like the "ei" in my last name.
I'd get cranky whenever my mother pointed out the error, because as a 4 year old, I logically decided that because the "ei" in my last name was pronounced as "ee", it surely meant every word in the English language followed the same rules. One day, when I was still about 4, when I was reading my Berenstain Bears book on my own in my living room, it occurred to me that "Berenstein" despite having an ei in it, still was pronounced with the same "ee" sound, just like my last name.
It's a pretty clear memory since I was like, "ha, that shows you, mom." I've always remembered it since I had so much trouble spelling words because of my last name. I think it's legitimate to believe it as a real Mandela effect.
I remember vividly driving past this apartment complex when I was 4/5 and in front of the apartment is a giant cornucopia model and remember asking what it was and then realizing it was just like the underwear. I understand almost all the other Mandela effects being mid remembered but this one I just can’t
2 likesI distinctly remember the cornucopia because I remember we had just learned about it in school (because it was around Thanksgiving) and I was happy I was able to identify what it was as a kid.
0 likesI remember a similar "Mandela effect" thing happening with a grade requirement for something at my school. It required a grade of 88 or over, but me and my mother both SWORE it was 87.
0 likesJust want to say I really enjoyed your cameo on urinating tree.Most ambitious crossover all time
0 likesIt did have a cornucopia, I have SPECIFIC memories of seeing it on my underwear when i sat on the toilet as a kid and wondering why they had a cornucopia behind fruit instead of like a thanksgiving setting. That memory is 100% specific and real.
0 likesNeat analysis! Thanks for uploading!
0 likesI dont know man...I think even if we had "pictures" of the cornucopia, (just like the physical objects people can no longer find) any video/photo proof we may have had would also somehow change or become digitalized and transmuted into something in which we swore was/wasn't there before. IMO, There is something very strange going on with reality itself that a majority of people are unaware of (many by choice)...but hopefully soon, this will all change.
0 likesWhat an extremely well made video.
0 likesI can confirm that I referred the word "loom" as the cornucopia in the background. I never knew it was called a cornucopia till someone told me it never existed.
0 likesBags of fruits are typically shown with cornucopia, even if it’s a long and rarely used word. It actually is similiar to the monocle. The name may be hard to remember but you don’t need to associate a name with something to think of it
0 likesI normally find these stupid but the Fruit of the Loom really gets me...
1 likehorrible, thanks.
0 likesi wondered if the hannaford (grocery store) logo had a cornucopia that was confusing me but it doesn't have one either (not sure about old versions. does have a triangle shape though). i wouldn't swear on my life about this but i really expect there to be a logo from my childhood with a cornucopia. fruit of the loom's logo also reminds me of thanksgiving coloring sheets i could have encountered (like for a class activity) but that's not a universal experience, especially considering non-americans.
I’m gonna ask my friends and family to draw the fruit of the loom logo. If they try and draw a cornucopia without me mentioning it, then SOMETHING IS UP.
0 likesThis was cool. I remembered a cornucopia too, but then really thinking about it, yeah, I don’t think it ever was there.
0 likesGreat video as always, emp
0 likesIs it weird that i didnt even know people thought the Fruit of the Loom logo had a cornucopia? I never saw one in the logo, nor do i ever remember thinking there was one.
0 likesI remember the cornucopia because i got fruit of the loom at hanaford and they were surrounded by other logos one of which was a cornucopia making me think they were both together
0 likesi love your videos dude! but im sorry, i actually do have very vivid memories of Jiffy peanut butter. Your evidence is all reasonable but i had day to day experience with Jiffy and it was definitely none of the examples you provided.
0 likesSomething funny happened 1 month ago.
0 likesMe and my parents went out to buy a new stovetop. We went around the stores looking at them and we saw one that was pretty cheap but I wanted to be smart and said "allright this looks great but... let's keep browsing the stores, we might find something better" and since I don't trust my memory I took a pic so I wouldn't forget the price.
We kept browsing and didn't found anything better so we came back and bought that one.
All well and good, it got packed and it was sealed and when the day it came for me to install it I took it out and noticed it was missing one burner. I looked for it everywhere but couldn't find it "there's no way it was missing a burner. I saw it, my mom saw it, my dad saw it, even my brother was inspecting it just now. There's no way 4 ppl would miss this". I considered the chance of us missing the fact it was missing a burner so then i tought "what a ripoff!!" so I was planning on going to the store and ask for my burner thinking "I have a picture!! I have proof that there were 4 burners in it!!"
So I took out my phone and you may guess what happened. There was 1 burner missing and the stove was on cut price because of that. That's why it was cheaper than in other stores.
Ofc I felt like an idiot afterwards but it comes to show you that you cannot trust your own memory. Not even from a few days before, hell not even from a few hours ago. Your mind will just assume things.
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Not even a few minutes before either. Moments after I watched this video and saw the logo so many times, my mind remembered the grapes being central to the logo as well as the apple not existing. Then I remembered "Oh yeah, there was an apple wasn't there?" :P
0 likesIt would have been a great april fools if you made this video and the logo actually had it, if you could do something similar on another product supposedly with Mandela affect links and present something else as the truth that would really get a lot of people, Brb got to check whether my one fruit of the loom shirt has a cornucopia
0 likesI remember there being some type of brown thing there, I am picturing two pieces of yellow-brown corn, but I never really thought about it
1 likeWe have seen bundles of fruit in cornucopias before, and those yellowish grapes are enough I feel to trick the subconscience.
0 likesI've never used a fruit of the loom product but I swear I remembered seeing a brown part of the logo (Also I misremembered it as Froot of the Loom)
0 likesI think seeing a cornucopia behind an abundance of fruits or vegetables, especially framed with leaves like the fruit of the loom logo, is also just a natural inferrence like seeing a monocle on the monopoly man. All the cultural depictions of fruit of the loom parodies with cornucopia probably contributed to it.
0 likesI swear the cornucopia used to be there but was slowly phased out over time to be more “simplistic”
0 likesi don't agree with your claims for why it doesn't make sense for people to have imagined it. i think it makes perfect sense. fruit goes with cornucopias and it adds balance
0 likesi remember looking at a pack of fruit of the loom underwear in walmart and just wondering what was on the logo and this has been bothering me for weeks
0 likesIt's evil...
2 likesIt's diabolical...
IT'S EMPEROR LEMON SCENTED!
That’s crazy I remember the cornucopia but I wasn’t aware that it wasn’t the logo.
0 likesIt’s especially strange because the logo with the cornucopia is the exact one I remember
The (erroneous) parodies and references are more common in our lives than the original logo. Like how we remember "Luke I am your father" and Seinfeld's airplane food set.
0 likesThis is fascinating, but just on a psychological level. I guess parallel universes could exist, but why and how would a part of the population suddenly switch to a different universe, where the only difference is one letter here, some logo there? That makes no sense. Not to mention that some of the differences simply couldn't change; Berenstain is the name of the writer, so for it to be different, something would've needed to changed ages ago, and that would have wide and far lasting consequences. Believing in all that, without a reasonable theory for why it happens and the physics of it all, is far more boring tbh. It's almost like saying "it's magic". I WISH it was paraller universes, but I need more than just belief and faith to get excited about the idea. Memory is such a fascinating thing, and the brain is just beautiful. It's something we can actually study and realistically theorize, I don't understand how people can just brush it off, they're missing out.
0 likesi think its because the logo with the cornucopia looks good without it it looks kinda weird so our minds just fill in the empty space thats also why we dont think other just random things of fruit should have a cornucopia because to us those look just fine or not thats just what i think
0 likesI literally only know what a cornucopia is because of runescape
0 likeshonestly, a lot of people are likely remembering getting a cornucopia in runescape, being really confused and asking their parents. Idk how underwear would tie into that though. Probably because EoC was coming out soon and both their underwear and runescape were inevitably going to be stained with the most pungent shit ever seen.
I never knew that people saw that on the logo. It's nice to finally be on the other side of the mandella effect
0 likesI remembered it as having a watermill wheel behind the fruit
0 likesI swear I had a black sabbath T-shirt printed on fruit of the loom that had a cornucopia logo, that’s the only time I’ve ever really seen fruit of the loom...
0 likesI don't remember a cornucopia, personally. I find it really interesting how people can remember something that wasn't even there.
0 likesI haven’t worn or seen fruit of the loom since i was very young, but i do remember the cornucopia, what if i’m just remembering a shit stain i made that looked like it?
0 likesFruit of the Loom DID have a cornucopia on their shirt tags in the 90s, however I did indeed live in a third world Eastern European country, fresh out of totalitarian communism, so they were probably bootlegs. Solved.
0 likesIm pretty sure the berenstain vs berestein one is caused by American television providers spelling it as berestein in the guide
0 likesgonna be honest i never even heard of fruit of the loom
0 likesIm very sure there WAS a cornucopia on the logo. It's the only way I even knew what it was.
0 likesAlmost all mandela effects examples people throw are ones I know they misremember.
BUT I REMEMBER VERY WELL THERE BEING A CORNUCOPIA.
12:32
0 likesWasn't expecting to hear Jerma. THE STREAMER who beat Pinwheel ON STREAM.
They for sure had it it’s no way we all made that up
0 likesTHERE May NEVER EVER BE ANOTHER DYNASTY LIKE THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS??????? You kind of touched on it in your smash bros brawl video and this one but it would fit that series perfectly
0 likesI thought they took it out of the logo somewhere around 2015, guess I just pointed this out to myself back then
0 likesMandela effect isn’t real. In High School me and my friends literally made some shit up and everyone remembered it as real. I’m pretty sure we were actually bullying someone but even they believed it.
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Bully :/
0 likesspeaking of The Mandela Effect did Wonderbread ever make rainbow colored bread? EmpLemon get on this
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no, its only blue
0 likesno, its only blue
0 likestbh the image itself looks more right with the cornucopia. rounds out the image, and leads your eye.
0 likesI feel like I’m on drugs how did the cornucopia never exist
8 likesThe lettuce looks like leaves.
2 likesThe red, yellow, and purple beside the leaves are autumn colored.
Gives a strong “thanksgivingish” vibe on its own.
my man said fruit of the loom knock offs, don't you know all the knockoffs are already made on fruit of the loom shirts because they're the cheapest.
0 likesLegit remember all of my classmates in 3rd grade fucking up berenstain bears, as berenstein bears. So nostalgic.
0 likesI was wondering if you could do a video on the consequences of YouTube being a monopoly.
0 likesWhat website is used at 4:51 to identify the hex codes used in the logo?
0 likesThis is wrinkling my brain, how I Starting looking at the thing and thought yeah that's the sign, I feel like I'm being gaslit
2 likesI don't remember there being a cornucopia in the logo, only the fruit. :/
0 likesFotL most well known for underwear? In Eastern Europe their T shirts were (and are in nostalgic memories) still THE shirts with band logos, best for..... IDK how you call them: pics on wax paper you could copy on t shirts with ironing. I had one for about 15 years.
0 likesWait you're telling me there ISN'T a cornucopia in the Capri Sun logo?
0 likesThe Sun Maid lady is holding a basket so that’s not a great example of unnecessary basket/cornucopia trademark use:/
0 likes"Something they see every time they pull down their pants to use the toilet" the weird brown thing we equate with Froot of the Loum is poop
0 likesI actually gasped at the 0:30 mark, I hate first realizing berenstain bear moments.
0 likesMaybe the real cornucopia was the friends we made along the way.
0 likesMaybe the real cornucopia was the friends we made along the way.
0 likesRusty doesnt know how to dance in the rain like Ray J
0 likes5:05
0 likesWas it the CORNUCOPIA that really shot Mr. Burns?
I never really even thought of any of this shit until people bring this shit up. I never would have even been like, "hmm, I remember that logo having X in it!".
0 likesIt isn't the kind of thing I'd remember. This seems simply like widespread confirmation bias.
The simulation has glitched once again I see.
39 likes"We keep making it better, not expensive!"
0 likesPerhaps that logo was designed in order to avoid legal trouble
1 likeI want to say, I know for a fact that brown thing was in the background. How come it’s no longer there? I used to wonder what that thing was called all the time. I know this?...I know this?...
0 likesPikachu has both a brown and yellow tail tip. One is the design of the male Pikachu, the other is the design of the female Pikachu.
0 likesin your refrying dory i always thought that the part you were explaining "use your ears to listen the words that came out of my mouth" i thought there was body parts pngs, at the beggining of the video, I mistook with the ear distorted voices visuALS from the "cringiest cringe that ever cringe"
0 likesAh the old reality shift
0 likesYou NEED to make a video on the lost McDonald’s Ds game
0 likesHuh, I didn't know the Pikachu tail one was a Mandela effect, I just thought it only me..
0 likesAs far as I'm going to think, this is true proof of mandela effect
0 likesI'll believe in parallel universes once a Mandela effect reverts after we discuss it.
4 likesBruh it ABSOLUTELY had a fucking Cornicopia, 100%.
2 likesdamn, I really remember it with a cornucopia.... how the fuck do I remember that?
0 likesEmpLemon: *Does a video of an underwear brand, of all things, has fun doing it.*
0 likesMe, a miserable cumbrain: I DON'T GIVE A SHIT!!!
REMOVE ALGORITHMS.
Before this video: What are you guys taking about? There never was a cornucopia on the logo...
0 likesAfter the video: Holy shit, where the fuck did that damn cornucopia go?!
I always thought the Cash sign $ had 2 lines, It has one. I hasn't had 2 lines since the 1910's when they actually had bags of cash.
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people sometimes use the two line version
0 likes@beanpepper I still write is with 2 lines
0 likesSorry guys, side effect from patches in your simulation. Your thread got a little bleak so we had to go back and change a few things in the past. It turns out that Sinbad was not the right man for the job.
0 likesDamn that music got me feelin like I'm in a TheRealJims video. Also was that Jerma at the end?
3 likesholy shit i knew the ad was coming but it was so good honestly hahahaha
0 likesVery cool, but aren't you the guy who made the legendary saga Frying Nemo?
0 likesAlso to add to this: Counterfeit Brands + Off-Brands / Copy-cat Brands
0 likesWas the title always discrepancy? I thought it was conspiracy. I’m gonna assume its just me who’s too used with that word.
0 likestake a shot every time he says cornucopia
0 likesThere was no Jiffy peanut butter, but there is Jiffy Lube
0 likesholy crap he changed the channel art. When did he do that?
0 likesHow is cornucopia a word just about as common as heatwave, what even is that ranking lol
0 likesVideo was great, but I kept getting sidetracked by those absolute bangers in the background
1 like2:44 you want the crucible, Shaq is the crucible
0 likesEMP is handsome
2 likesCertainly doesn't help that it's a visually better looking logo :U
0 likesjust got banned from [you tuber]'s chat for making jokes and saying a fact that i have seen a dead body luckily emp lemon can chear me up
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im love you
0 likesi have no idea what is different about my brain, but i don't and never have remembered there being a cornucopia.
0 likesI don't remember it having one at all lol.
0 likesLittle brown thing in your underwear that wasn't part of its original design...
0 likesi guess i know where it could come from
Not even watching the video
0 likesJust wanted to say
Your not convincing me their was never a cornucopia
Emp could you answer this question do you regret the absolute in cell content you made 4 years ago? I like your content but that shit was one sided
0 likesBut I remember it drawn exactly as you have it drawn there, I remember it on my dads underwear when he left it on the floor in my parents room
0 likesUse the speaking of the words “downward spiral” from the movie Easy A. I’ll leave it up to you to find it. I don’t know how else to send this message.
0 likesI have a test tomorrow and need to go sleep, but here I am watching a conspiracy video about an under wear logo
0 likes"Memory is a lot like underwear" - EmpLemon 2020
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"Sometimes they're not the cleanest and sometimes people use them with a skid mark." -Possibly in the video
0 likesI swear it was on the knockoffs got a bunch of random wrestling t-shirts on holidays when I was young and remember the cornucopia
0 likesI recognize the half in the bad music, you hack fraud. - subscribed
0 likesI feel like spongebob is full of these mandela effects
0 likesI can't even count on my own eyes for my own typing like 99% of the time.
4 likesI can't see that money without hearing "BBBUT MUUUUMKEYYY"
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Boy...I hope someone was fired for that blunder
0 likesMan.....it sucks that this is the kid responsible for gate-keeping and attacking my man, Behind the Meme.😒
0 likesLast time I was this early, Emp was still uploading Incredibles YTPs.
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I wish he made a YTP today but that’s never gonna happen
0 likesthe logo just looks wrong without the cornucopia :(
0 likesW h y i s t h e E m p l e m o n g r e e n ?
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I think he was going for a yellow skin tone like the Simpsons. Hence the live action Simpsons clip at the end.
3 likesEmpLemon is a Simpson
8 likesHes a frogposter
1 likeToo much or not enough YTP radiation.
2 likesThis is very epic.
3 likesI remembered cheez-it as cheez-itz but yeah
0 likesBullshit I've definitely seen it in unless 1 ad from a fruit of the loom
0 likesim here because vinny told me the cornucopia was never there
4 likesI SWEAR TO GOD IT HAS A CORNUCOPIA
3 likesi see this weird triangle with an eye on the top in all kinds of movies, tv shows, music videos, video games. anytime I point it out, I'm told to stop that or that I'm a conspiracy nut or why does it matter? Its weird though because everyone else sees it too...
1 likeIs this just a massive advert for fruit of the loom
0 likesMandela Effect Instance: Rusty Cage was never actually in this video.
7 likesIt got patched out in the last update.
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Underrated comment
0 likesIf a version with the cornucopia does exist, then the knock-off theory is probably the most plausible. I could've sworn I've owned Fruit of the Loom underwear in the past that had the logo on it, and the fact that versions of it with the cornucopia exist in parody means that it either had to have existed at some point in some form, or that the version with the cornucopia is a copyright-friendly version of the logo that's circulated in our media for decades (which would be why that image has instilled itself into the memory of the public consciousness; IE - its a meme).
4 likesSo it's either that, or parallel universes (which we know is probably bullshit). I don't know how someone could just "misremember" something so distinct, let alone millions of people collectively misremembering such a distinct object in the logo.
This isn't like the monopoly man missing his monocle, Curious George missing his tail, or the discrepancy of how the Berenstain Bears is spelled (that probably formed because children probably thought "stain" was how "stein" was pronounced when they were younger and were learning how to read, and they associated that memory with the Berenstain Bears since its probably the first real instance where they read "stain" and "stein" [after all, English is a pretty complicated language compared to something like Spanish; god knows i wasn't super great in English during high school either, I only started to really give a shit about my writing once I took English Comp in college]).
This is more like how people believe that Parallel Universes have moved the precise location of the Statue of Liberty (yes, that's a real thing that people believe, and they have a good chunk of "evidence" of people in pictures tagged #statue_of_liberty or #liberty_island or some shit where they're either just posed in front of the city or they're posed in front of a flagpole).
Nope! It's an alternative Universe.
0 likesEmp Lemon: The Mandela effect is never about anything important
5 likesNelson Mandela: Am I a joke to you?
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Americana who don't understand there's a rest of the world: yes.
0 likes(Not emp lemon specifically, Americans generally.)
Love the Jerma in there
0 likeswhy does lemon man look like hes having a stroke in the live action ad?
3 likeslemon man are you alright buddy?
EmpLemon looks like the perfect balance between an american and an asian american.
6 likesi looked at your channel then left, came back again and you uploaded wtf
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0 likes@Egg T Your right
6 likes@Egg T im not a youtuber just a guy with a cool badge
4 likesMagik
0 likesSame... we must have switched timelines at some point
1 likeThanks. If you hadn't done that he would have never posted again. It's all thanks to you.
0 likesyou're about to get me to watch a 15 minute video about underwear and enjoy it.
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indeed
0 likesRemember that time we saw Captain Underpants?
0 likesthis is crazy i could have sworn there wa da cornucopia
0 likes1:54 - 6:46 sounds like I'm watching Simpsons Mysteries
5 likesI wonder how much more popular this video will make the word "cornucopia" on wordcount .org
3 likesMaybe the real cornucopia were the friends we made along the way.
4 likesAll of this analysis.....
15 likesFor an underwear company.
In all seriousness this illoominated my mind.
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bruh. perfect
1 like"Mr. Monopoly" is not the name of the Monopoly guy. His name is actually Rich Uncle Pennybags.
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Imagine having “Uncle” as a middle name lmfao
0 likesLooking at the comments first, i refuse to watch it, i wanna believe there is a Cornucopia in the logo, ill stick with that...
0 likesWait, you mean there was no cornucopia?
6 likesEVERYTHING I KNOW IS A LIE
10:06 Well, yes, but actually no.
4 likes(If you don't know what am I talking about, look at Pikachu in ORAS)
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He was refering that some people believe that the tip of Pikachu's tail was black since the 90s, and not only the Cosplay Pikachu, but the normal Pikachu too.
0 likesI used to believe that the tip of Pikachu's tail was black when I was little because I used to watch a lot the Pokemon anime in my childhood, infact, I have a Pikachu keychain from my childhood and somehow, I remember the black tip on it, just for one day, wake up and realize that someone erased the black tip, leaving the tail entirely yellow. What a big surprise I had when I discover Pikachu's tail has always been like that.
I think this is probably solely a result of people asking the question "does the fruit of the loom logo have a cornucopia?" and then the person asked hasn't looked at their underwear so they say it to agree.
0 likesMandela Effect, huh more like people dont want to admit they're wrong-effect
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Pretty much that mixed with brain’s autofill properties
0 likesMy best guess is that somewhere someday somebody bought a knockoff with the Cornucopia logo. I mean, if you look hard enough I’m sure you can find Adidas Jordan shoes.
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But for fruit of the loom? That's the cheapo brand everyone got back then. knock offs work for premium items, why knock off something that's already cheap?
0 likes8:18 Mexican America Grocers Association (MAGA) lmao the irony. Did not age well
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Counterpoint: it aged perfectly
2 likesWhat do you mean? Because of Trumps immigration policy? At the end of the day they are an American based company and aren't negatively effective by Trumps policies so I don't see the irony or how it didn't age well. I would say it did age hilariously well.
0 likesYou read “Subliminal: How Your Unconscious Mind Rules Your Behavior” didn’t you? ;)
21 likesEmpLemon video. Stuff it in the cornucopia.
0 likesThis is like Berenstain bears.
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True
0 likesKIT KAT DOESNT HAVE THE HYPHEN????!?!?
0 likesI NEED A REAL EXPLANATION!!!
0 likesPeruvian flag has one too
0 likesWe all won the "open youtube at the right time" game
3 likesTfw when all your underwear is Fruit of the Loom or Michael Adams because Calvin Klein is expensive.
8 likesFRUIT. STUFF IT IN THE CORNUCOPIA
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wow
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8 likesFIRST TIME IVE HAD MANDELA EFFECT
0 likesFr 😔
0 likesWow
2 likesWait a minute aren't you the guy who made those plushie mario adventures like a decade ago?
3 likeswow
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1 like@StuGLyfe nope different guy
0 likesEdit: wow
wow
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0 likesOnly a verified channel can say something simple and insignificant as "wow" and get 600 likes.
0 likescan someone pls tell Mandela to stop effecting us
0 likesdoes anyone else remember seeing this logo in that one kids movie "ANTZ" ?
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he talks about that at like 5:48
0 likesI know for a fact there was a cornucopia in this logo. I'm 17 and I remember it vividly. Unfortunately there's always gonna be skeptics and deniers who think they know more than we do.. Like shut up you don't know what we saw or experienced lol
1 likeI can't really remember exactly when I last saw it, but I'd say it was in the past 6 years at the latest, like maybe around 2015? Or 2014? Somewhere around that timeframe (That also happens to be around the time the Mandela Effect started becoming mainstream, oddly enough)
Emplemon is making me interested in the logo of an underwear brand.
4 likesAt this point, Emp can make paint drying and grass growing interesting.
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He can make a Quinton Reviews interview bearable.
0 likesok, great video and all, but
1 like0:53 who the FUCK thinks New Zealand is in that spot and can I interview them
Plot twist: the original cornucopia is actually another fate of the mandela affect -- it was originally a watermelon.
0 likesSounds like a lot of cornacope.
0 likes8:23 Mexican American Grocers Association? So that's this "MAGA" thing I've heard so much about!
0 likesMandela effect YAWN Mandela effect is just proof that people can’t accept the fact that they’re wrong
3 likesFroot of the Loomy Tunes
1 likeStop gaslighting us we all can’t be making it up
1 likenah b i absolutely remember shazzam with sinbad.
0 likesYou wear ur underpants the front way if I see the logo every day
1 likeMore like fruit of the coom
3 likesI bet they did it on shirts but not undies or something like that
0 likesNever heard of a cornucopia
0 likesFruit of the Looming cornucopia
0 likesI really do not like that thing with the yellow balls.
0 likesWhen’s the next YTP coming out
9 likesIt was definitely the brown leaves.
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If you think we mistook some leaves for a cornucopia then you're probably dumber than we are. I mean yeah they were brown but the problem is they're not cone shaped like a cornucopia lol
0 likesAlso some of us didn't grow up with the old logo so there's that. Some of us remember it specifically in the modern logo, which has green leaves instead of brown. So the brown leaf explanation becomes flawed for anyone that was familiar with the modern logo
@Bidybabies Do you really thing the average person inspects their underwear so closely that they'll tell the difference between some brown leaves and a cornucopia? I think if you imagine the leaves as a cornucopia, with the wide end on the left and the point on the right, it does look very much like a cornucopia when it's shrunk down to the size of a tag. It'll especially look like a cornucopia when put next to a pile of fruit.
0 likesTrash Taste brought me here! You have a sub from me dear sir!
0 likesIt had the cornucopia. BerenSTEIN bears.
0 likesAnyone got the song at 9:56 ?
0 likesHi Vinny's Stream
3 likesIts the round border.
0 likesI have never heard of this.
0 likesSo...... Ever think that maybe, just maybe, there's something else going on? Arbitrary things like logos and that, who cares if they changed or not, in the end wholly inconsequential. So..... What about things of consequence?
0 likesthey obviously just changed the logo?
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I will always believe it is Berenstein.
0 likesFruit of the loops
0 likesC-3PO has a silver leg! I shit you not google it.
0 likesBoth logos look correct...
0 likesnot u gaslighting us into thinking we weren't time line swapped
0 likesyour channel is probably one of my favorites in terms of its character development
0 likesOkay, I’m no fan of the Mandela effect theory, but I vividly remember spending a good 20 minutes looking at the fruit of the loom logo as a kid. The basket was there. Some of the recreated images here were very close, especially the colorless line art.
0 likesAlso we named a dog jiffy. I had always thought they were two different brands and jiffy went under.
Would love a logic based and resin bound explanation for these. Based on reality of course.
Blessed enjoyment of yet another well-written content. Goodspeed Emp!
0 likesI think the confusion comes from the brand name itself. On the logo we see the fruit, but where's the loom? Looms and cornucopias are both objects that we associate with the 18th century, so people just substitute the missing loom with a cornucopia because it makes more sense than an actual loom. Add this false memory into works of popular media, and it's no wonder why so many people remember the logo with a cornucopia now.
1 likeI remember the tip of pickachu's tail always being solid yellow. I've never seen it black, but some old Tcg art and figures has the tail brown tipped
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Yeah it’s probably a mix of that and Pichu’s tail would be my guess. I remembered it as black too, I specifically remember making Pikachu pixel art in Minecraft, looking up how to make it, and then finding out it wasn’t black but I decided to make it as black anyway because it looked better.
0 likesI think maybe the fact that the fruit from the logo has a similar layout to what you would expect from a cornicopia. Plus a cornicopia would it perfectly behind the fruits, and it would round out the color scheme. Honestly I sort of remember the cornicopia and the lack of it. I think it's because your brain, when not paying full attention tries to fill in information and sometimes fails.
1 likeI never remembered a cornucopia, and I think there's some points in the video that are a bit too glossed over. Namely, the Capri Sun point is flimsy at best. The art style of the Fruit of the Loom logo combined with the way the fruit looks like it's spilling onto a table or other flat surface resembles a lot of old fall clip art you would see back when that logo is being remembered. It's pretty common to see bunches of fruit with a cornucopia, and I think that's just what's happening here. I think people's memories about asking their parents about a cornucopia probably happened, but they either misremember it having to do with that specific logo or had already developed the misconception when talking about it. I just don't think it's that far-fetched to add a cornucopia in mentally, it's a background detail more similar to the Monopoly monocle than the video gives credit for.
0 likesnot sure if this applies to anyone else, but when i was in grade school during autumn my teachers would print colour-in pages as a sort of art-assignment to do, and it would always be a bunch of fall fruits, like pumpkins, apples, grapes, and some leaves with a cornucopia in the background.
0 likesmaybe some people are mixing up similar colour pages with the fruit of the loom logo?
I actually remember the cornucopia as late as around 2015. This is the one that got to me the most, because I actually remember paying attention to the Fruit of the Loom logo. I actually thought that the removal of the cornucopia was just a design change.
0 likesI remember the cornucopia. I just assumed they changed it to make it easier for the computer to print a boatload of. I also remembered the movie being Shazam and starring Shaq as the genie. As a kid I assumed that was how Shazam was written in middle eastern. I know now it's called Arabic. I also remembered the monocle, but thought they changed it for the same reason as fruit of the loom.
0 likesI just love how reality is made by humans but unaffected by our memory.
1 likeThis kind of mental plays is what makes me think we've just made up everything because it make sense.
I feel we didn't discover math nor it is the universal language, it's merely the translation we made up to fit our reality, Science is just the best we can do to explain something we will never be able to. We mutate or theories to fit any change we perceive but don't consider the fundamentals are wrong.
But when the fundamentals are on play, even Science people rather go to the "PARALLEL UNIVERSE" argument instead of questioning the bases of all understanding.
I lived near a store that had a fruit of the loom logo on the side of it and I remember asking my mom about what the brown thing behind it was and she said it was a cornicopia. We both remember that like it was yesterday.... Creepy
0 likesI don't remember it with a cornucopia. I used to work for Fruit of the Loom at the corporate HQ until October of this year and even the pictures hanging in the corporate office and the samples of clothing designs were sans cornucopia. So I can say I'm pretty sure it never existed in this reality.
0 likesThe first time I remember seeing a cornucopia was around kindergarden when learning about the not-at-all-violent origins of Thanksgiving so that's probably where this particular.. thing, comes from.
0 likesOr the logo with the woven cone was a bootleg brand and we were too dumb as kids to know that.
This has an explanation just like the other Mandela effects you described. There are other fruit logos with a cornucopia (seen on boxes of fruit in grocery stores) with a similar art style and that must be what people are mixing with the fruit of the loom logo
0 likesI seriously wonder what people who dont forget their memory think of the mandela effect. I think it would perhaps either prove or disprove this whole Mandela effect being glitches in the matrix. After all, if they remember every single thing that happens in their lives 100%, then they shouldn't ever have any Mandela effect instances happen to them, because they are mess ups in our memory.
0 likescan we talk about how far emplemon has come in a few years?
0 likesI'm starting to wonder if Emp's channel banner is arranged chronologically, or if it's arranged in how open and blustering the mouths of "leadership" are.
0 likesYou could literally talk about a chair for an hour and I would still listen till the end.
0 likesI remember seeing the logo as a child and thinking that it needed a cornucopia, if not for that memory coming back to me I'd be under the full influence of the mandela effect
1 likeI think most cases of the Mandela Effect can be explained by Pop Culture references and media portrayals.
0 likesWe see the logo so many times in movies and TV to where it's just close enough to trick us into thinking it's the real deal. Might even be unintentional, they have to dodge copyright, after all.
It's just like the monopoly man's monocle. Here's a scene of fruit layed out, how many scenes of fruit have a bowl or something to hold them in? A cornucopia may not seem like an everyday item, but it's culturally significant, at least for Americans. How many of you colored in that exact scene in grade school? Thanksgiving day, draw everything your thankful for and put it in this cornucopia. It's practically been ingrained in the social unconscious and from a young age as well.
0 likesI think it's because the leaves in the background of the logo used to be brown, so when you see them as green in the modern logo it feels like something behind it is missing.
0 likesWait- I never imagined EmpLemon having that IRL appearance.
0 likesI remember the Berenstein Bears SONG, and books, from the PBS, cartoon, I think. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but it's very strange this is such a debated topic that several people remember so vividly, because I thought I was an outlier or it was a joke that it wasn't "Stein." So did almost everyone I know. Probably fallible memory, sure, but... Many South Africans who suffered from Apartheid say Mandela died in the 80's in prison. That blows my mind, because I also remember learning about him dying in prison in highschool, in 4th mod Social Studies, Mr. Charles. Things are strange. There are anomalies we don't understand, I'm not going. To concede to either possibility, because I try not to be paranoid but then again debating universal continuity with no "proof" sounds insane.
0 likesSomeone recorded Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back when it came out in movie theatres in the 1980's and Darth Vader did actually say "Luke, I am your father". When I watched that video, it actually blew my mind. I can't seem to find it anymore, but it makes me believe these corporations purposefully do switch their logos without telling anyone and get rid of any evidence. Not all of them, but atleast a few.
0 likesThe town where I’m from had a local grocery store that had a logo that looked like the fruit of the loom logo, so I always thought fruit of the loom owned some random grocery store
0 likesI don't believe the cornucopia was ever there and can't remember ever explicitly seeing a logo with it, yet the version with the cornucopia just feels right. I think it's because the cornucopia has the same art style as the fruit and doesn't stand out as something that obviously shouldn't be there (e.g. the knockoff where the cornucopia takes up 60% of the logo space). Additionally, the logo of an underwear company is one of those things that everyone has seen, but virtually no one would have put in the effort to memorize it.
0 likesIt might not have to do with fall time vegetables/fruits but the shapes being round.
0 likesI think the art style for the logo looks like kids' coloring sheets we'd do around Thanksgiving with lots of fruits in them. Maybe that's what put the idea in peoples' heads and it would explain why it's remembered from peoples' childhoods?
0 likesA buddy of mine and I have been binging jerma streams and hearing this 12:33 after taking a break kinda freaked me out
0 likesI’m old enough that I remember the 70’s and I definitely remember the cornucopia. I also remember berenstein as I was fascinated by the name and had multiple pronunciations in my head.
0 likesI remember think it had an st sound or scht sound. So I had stine shtine steen or schteen. Never did I se an A in their.
Honestly, I think the reason so many people remember the cornucopia is because of the logo art style.
0 likesThe art style is just so similar to old timey illustrations, and I dunno, it just seems like that’d be a factor
12:31 Well that sure is nostalgic. I refuse to believe that was from 6 years ago.
0 likesI know about Pikachu, Pikachu's ears are black at the tip, when you try to draw it from memory you paint the tail just like the ears, also considering that the beginning of the tail is also dark, one thing tends to be mixed with the other
0 likesIt's more than likely due to the overwhelming presence of Thanksgiving imagery in early development, marketing, and advertising which has the same set-up with an overflowing horn of plenty. Mandela effect takes over.
0 likesThe funny thing about the berenstain bears thing, I don't recall anyone ever pronouncing it "bear in stain"... Growing up we called it "bear in stein". Or "steen"... The justification for the spelling just being misrecognized, seems odd. I just think they remember everyone's struggling to pronounce the EI lettering, and either over or under emphasizing the e.
0 likesAlthough I'll say the justification as a transfer to a different universe.. is um... A bit to unfalsifiable to me.
I really like the analysis on the significance of mandela effect.
0 likesI've never heard of a cornucopia, and still don't know what one is, but I remember something like that being in the logo 😂
0 likesI think some of my Mandela Effects that are mainstream came from hearing about them from people. Like I never cared enough about them in the past to be sure on how they looked so I'm asuming I was filling in the blanks and I thought I remembered wrong, doesn't explain my unique/mostly false memories though
0 likesWow it has been 7 seven years I've been watching this man and this is the first time I've seen his face
0 likesUntil you made this video I had never noticed that the logo didn't have a cornucopia I was born in 1994 I remember it being there I learned the term as a grade schooler because of the logo asking my parents.
0 likesThis is clearly the proof of a time machine
0 likesNever personally associated fruit of the loom with a cornucopia
0 likesHow come I never remembered a cornucopia in the logo, When I was younger I always thought that The Fruit of the Loom logo looked similar to The Olive Garden logo in my head.
0 likesEven if the cornucopia isn't real, it makes the logo look a lot more complete
0 likesI would have gotten all of the mandela effect items wrong if I had to recreate them
0 likesone of the most salient M.E.s for sure; though because it's something far more paltry than the car JFK was in it's typically laughed off when cited as evidence for said phenomenon
0 likesAnd on the topic of the logo, I swear it had several other fruits in it and maybe a Cornucopia
0 likesFor a sec I thought this was going to be a video about fruit of the loom scamming someone or something. 😅
0 likesI’m actually fairly certain that there was a cheap european toy company with a very similar cornucopia logo
1 like0:31 I don’t know why but I started laughing and crying uncontrollably
0 likesWe had to draw company logos for an art class when I was in elementary school, I remember because I fucked up the cornucopia I was supposed to draw. I also had the tag for my shirt at the time in front of me, which is what I was trying to copy.
0 likesWow, Emperor, way to make your video title the same as a Big Bang Theory episode.
0 likesi remember the logo having the cornucopia as a kid before i even knew what a cornucopia was. honestly thought it was rope or bread
0 likesbig fan, but i feel like this subject has been covered by too many people and found it hard to even finish the video.
0 likesI don't remember a cornucopia in the fruit of the loom logo, but the real logo does look off. I thought there was a banana or orange in it
0 likesI remember the Berenstein Bears, I remember the Cornucopia, and so much more
0 likesAs someone who has never heard of 'Fruit of the Loom' I really thought the title was just a bunch of meaningless words lmao
0 likesit definitely had a cornucopia, the first time I saw one was on the underwear package
0 likesI remember seeing a basket instead of that "cornucopia"
0 likesthe logo reminds me of old Thanksgiving art with the pilgrims/ natives
0 likesNo there was Sinbad as a genie. Look it up. I watched it on when Netflix was sending discs and movies in the mail. I know that movie was real I loved that movie. I know I seen that movie.
0 likesDisregarding the mandela effect, the cornucopia logo just looks better. Any brain trained on a left to right language is going to read the leaves, apple, white grapes, and purple grapes as downward tilting or "negative". An upward tilting, positive cornucopia balances the rest of the image (and adds a warm neutral to rest your eye!)
0 likesI remember it with a cornucopia as well.
1 likekitkat hyphen can be explained in the white background version, between the letters "T" and "K" a square space is formed.
0 likesYou are the only reason I thought about a cornucopia in the last 2 reasons man, I have never thought that was on the logo anyhow.
0 likes10:41 Now, that's a throwback!
0 likesThe pikachus tail being black one sorta makes sense because on female pikachus they have a black heart at the end of the tail
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Oh never mind, it's not black. I guess the world changed
0 likesSomething kinda relating to this: The Beach Boys have a song called Vega-tables and there’s an early version of the song that is referred to as the Cornucopia Version, with lyrics relating to a cornucopia. Thought I might just share that
0 likesReally thought this video was gonna say the reason it was removed was because of some leftist thanksgiving outrage. Goes to show you how primed to prepare for people being offended the internet has made me.
1 likeThings i remember:
0 likesAll the words to the Ultimate Showdown.
That is all.
I genuinely can’t tell if this video is gaslighting or not
0 likesI have a distinct memory of me looking at the tag as a kid and seeing a cornucopia
0 likesisnt there a crap ton of old pictures of horns of plenty that are stylistically to some iterations of the fruit of the loom logo? as in they have the wood block print with flat colors look, alot of boomers and the like would have grown up seeing that stuff in decorations for halloween and thanks giving decorations as well as old books.
0 likesit’s not a face reveal because it’s green emp, also the first face reveal at least to my knowledge was hungry box reacting to the doc emp made on him.
1 likeim pretty sure there was an add on tv in the 2000s that had a cornucopia in it during thanks giving and had it fade out with the background as the logo was put in focus. weird knowing this kind of though is constructed
0 likesThis reminds me of how everyone remembers the brand name Niveá when it is actually Nivea, I swear that I could remember putting Niveá sunscreen on my belly as a kid but not Nivea.
2 likesJk, I just made that up, but I'm sure that this has fooled a few of you, that's all the "Mandela Effect" is. It is bringing in fresh information that overrides that old memories that you had, I'm sure you never thought of Niveá until I pointed it out, but once your brain has your past memories overwritten you are incapable of remembering Nivea without the á. (This is helped immensely with use of a photo shopped image, and since I lack one the amount of people that I tricked is much smaller)
This is what every instance of the Mandela Effect is. It isn't an effect it is just an illusion, there are no parallel universes or anything there is only your shitty memory.
People only swear that they can remember a cornucopia because after they saw the photo shopped image, their brain had added a cornucopia to every past memory of Fruit of the Loom that they had. Your brain also would have created completely false ones as well because that's just what it does, your brain will stitch together other memories into a whole new memory, (this is also how dreams are made). You also shouldn't be surprised by this fact either as your brain at the end of the day is a flawed hunk of meat that didn't have any evolutionary pressure to remember tiny unimportant details.
Please don't buy into all this pseudoscience, even if you can't disprove it yourself, lack of any evidence is always a good reason to know that it's bullshit.
Mandela never died in prison, it was always Berenstain Bears, there is no monocle on the monopoly man, and there was no fucking cornucopia. The Mandela Effect is just some stupid trick that hides behind the shield of 'effect' when in actual fact there is no Mandela Effect there is just our shitty memories.
The Mandela Effect is the equivalent of me making some spaghetti epidemic by putting up pictures of spaghetti everywhere, sure its a real thing that people are experiencing but there would be no spaghetti epidemic if I just stopped putting pictures of spaghetti everywhere. There is no Mandela Effect when people stop making up false memories and spreading them to millions of people along side convincing photo shopped images.
ok rant over time for bed gn.
Without the cornucopia, the logo is a bunch of fruit. With the cornucopia, the logo is a Unit.
0 likesHey emp, can you do a video about deja vu's? I have a LOT
0 likesHello Emp, you should make a video on Alex Trebek
2 likesThe Jerma TF2 twilight zone was a nice touch
0 likesI’ve never heard of this company but I do remember the cornucopia
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I remember my family had these magnets on their fridge
0 likesI call it proof of the matrix being rewritten
0 likesMaybe knockoff fruit of the loom had a cornucopia
0 likesThis reminds me of paradox between barenstein bears and bearstain bears
0 likesKIT-KAT was spelled with a dash "-", your not crazy
0 likesHuh, never thought I'd be the victim of the Mandela effect, what a bizarre thing to misremember
0 likesWait. So your sayin’ there wasn’t a cornucopia behind the fruit?
0 likesI never remember it having one personally.
0 likesThe f in the Ford Logo is the one that always gets me. I swear that little curl was never there.
0 likesI too believed it had the cornucopia but I guess not
0 likesThere’s probably a similar logo everyone is confusing it with
0 likesFruit of the Loom?
1 likeSTUFF IT IN THE CORNUCOPIA
As far as I remember, there was a cornucopia
0 likesI remember Frying Dory had a cornucopia in it
0 likesI just noticed the yellow grapes on the bottom are not grapes but currants
0 likesThat red letter media bit is appreciated.
0 likesI thought it was there because the art style looks like it would fit one
0 likessome pikachu tails are actually black with a heart shape so, it's not too much out of the question. I also thought there was a cornucopia so, ty for making me seem dum lmao.
0 likesI cant be the only one that never remembered the cornucopia
0 likesI dont ever recall a cornucopia in the logo honestly
0 likesThe cornucopia existed before you watched this video
2 likesMan i never remembered it with a cornucopia wtf
0 likesto thoes in the UK oddly remembering it also haveing a cornucopia dispite them not really being a thing in our culture
2 likeschances are its because they manufactured your school uniform
and do you remember clip art on old mid 2000's word, powerpoint and publisher
one of the first images to come up on that was a horn of pleanty
thats why you are putting the two together
There’s a restaurant in my city called the Cornucopia
0 likesWoah wasn't expecting a Jerma reference right next to a redlettermedia reference
0 likeshow do people think pikachu had a black tip on its tail??? that would look so stupid
0 likesImagine having a company be tainted because you use similar acronyms to MAGA Feelsbadman
2 likes“Memory is like underwear...”
0 likesI always thought there was a pear in the logo
0 likesI actually don't believe the cornucopia existed, however I believe "Looney Toons" goes as follows. Which is apparently untrue.
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i remember kit-kat being on older packaging but apparently that seemingly never happened either.
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2 likes"Hello, and welcome to Half In The Bag. I'm Jay."
"And I'm Mike."
Our hard drive data has been transferred to a parallel universe with some slight packet loss.
1 like@10:40 : The Ultimate Showdown. I can remember and recite every fucking word. I should of spent my formative years on the internet learning to code, now flash is being disconnected. fuck.
0 likesBest Raycon ad I've seen
0 likesThe monopoly man's name is Uncle Pennybags
0 likesidk why, but the image of the bathroom stalls at 7:57 make uncomfortable. Actually, thats a lie i know exactly why, why is the next stall so dark?, it seemingly is behind a solid wall? and wtf is that glowing object, what is this image
0 likes"at the end of the day does it really matter?"
1 likeYes
Aight, imma prove you wrong by looking into my drawer real qui-...WHAT THE FUCK
0 likes9:09 who tf buys special seasonal underwear
1 like8:18 I find it hilarious that there's a MAGA organization which stands for Mexican American Grocers Association.
0 likesTHERE WAS A GODDAMN CORNUCOPIA
0 likesIts funny because i learned both what a loom and a cornucopia is from terraria
0 likesidk what it used to be the the Cornucopia looks better tbh
0 likesFirst lmao
3 likesedit: never mind yall be using some mr robot headass tactics
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0 likesWhat if I told you it was all just a skid mark
2 likesI remember the cornucopia tbh
0 likesI vaguely recall looking at the logo on my underwear and seeing it
0 likesI never remembered a cornucopia
0 likes8:23 I did not expect to see maga abreviate to that
0 likesTIL the place with all the weapons had a name
0 likesis that end background music from pong: the next level, so niche
0 likesChanging the Narrative, I see. Don't think I won't be fruiting your looms with a cornocopia in the future, boyo.
0 likesthere will never be. When's the next one?
0 likesI KNEW Mandela was dead!
0 likesbad news boys, the cornucopia is a stock image. A guy just edited the Fruit of the loom logo to gaslight idiots on reddit
0 likesWait wasn't this channel called EmpLemmon?
0 likesCan’t wait until Ray J goes broke again
0 likesWait I thought it still had one
0 likesNgl I also remember it with a cornucopia but I'm not exactly sure as to why I did...
0 likes5:25 ah but not I...
0 likesRESEARSCH LOOOOOM!
Holy shit I didn't realize i was dead!
0 likeslmao, I remember a burger idk what y'all talking about.
0 likesMy memory has cleared. I know why we think there's a Cornucopia.
0 likesIt's because we mistook the thanksgiving color pages from first grade for the logo!
Why is the lemon green?
0 likes11:21 Ha hah, in my case you're wrong, for multiple reasons. I win.
0 likesI remember both
0 likesI dont focus on that. But the cornucopia fits
0 likes"...one of the most mysterious and widespread misconceptions of our time."
0 likesWhat a dumb thing to say
I miss your gran turismo 4 music :(
0 likesPeople who play atomicrops be like
0 likesMy old ass froot of the loom underwear doesn't have a cornucopia
0 likesYeah ok. Next your gonna tell me there is no Indian on the butter
1 likeAnd then ur friends are all like "no dUmBasS oFc iT doEsNt haVe a CoRnuCopiA"
0 likesTheir was a jiffy i swear
0 likesWhatever the source of this curio, its good for business. So plenty of reason for subversive advertisemeng
0 likesIt's confirmation bias imo
0 likesBut the end of pikachu's tail was black? It is kit-kat?
0 likesI was just thinking: CD, CD, CD, CD, CD.
0 likesI like the king of the hill clips
0 likesYeah man no one believes me when i say thay america used to be a big apple tree. Apple truthers will reveal the truth 😡
0 likes3:14 mumkey cameo
0 likesLol they just changed it in the early 2000s
0 likesIt was never there and the Mandela effect is not even real.
0 likeswait... the cornucopia is brown...
1 likePeople really be out here so self assured that they'd rather think the entire universe changed than admit they're wrong
1 likeThis video is gaslighting me
0 likesThere is many band tshirt got fruit of the looms tag.
0 likesRusty Cage!!
0 likesI think I'm being gaslit by a youtuber over underwear.
0 likes10:10 esprit in the background🤌🏼
0 likesSo that's what his eyes look like
0 likesI swear to god it had a cornucopia
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yes
1 likeit looks bad without it
1 likemandela effect moment
0 likesNot the video that I needed to find at 2:22am
0 likesNever saw a cornucopia but they make good underwear
0 likesWas that jerma at the end of the video?
0 likesThe matrix is glitching.
0 likesWho’s here after the urinating tree vid?
1 likeBruh did you change the thumbnail to have the cornucopia in the background is was that just me
0 likesBro captain disillusion did a video about this. Go watch it
1 likeI know the old band tee I'm wearing rn doesn't show any cornucopia
0 likesI think I have one with that basket when I find it I comment under this comment
0 likesbrooklyn 99 season 1 episode 10 just around 3:47
0 likesI believe its just genius 9d marketing
0 likesi guess it was just shit in the back of my boxers the whole time
0 likesARE YOU SATISFIED NOW YOUTUBE?????
0 likes11:35 theres poop stains bro...
0 likesShazam was a real movie
0 likesWhat's that word count website? I just wanna see what the last word is.
0 likesLol the lyrics on Spotify say "in A Barbie world" but it does seem to be wrong? Idk
0 likesLogos change all the time.
0 likesWhat's the video at 10:45??? I remember it from the somewhat early days of the internet
0 likesI don't even recognise the brand name but I recognised the logo when the thing was added what do you meeeann
0 likesThanks for the existensial crisis
0 likesWe should probably stop prying, there definitely a bigger meaning to this cornucopia, there is something bigger at play this is not coincidence with mass growth progression of the human race in technology
0 likesSeeing emp with colored skin disgust me.
0 likesAnd theres jiffy cornbread mix or something
0 likesHonestly, the sinbad thing seems just about as strange as the fruit of the loom discrepancy does.
2 likesHi Emp, I basically never ever comment on YouTube videos but I just realized you're my favorite content creator on this platform. Each video gives me new outlooks on subjects I most of the time never really thaught about, you are really broadening my worldview with each video and I want to thank you for that. I feel like you're one of the few on this site who only talks about what they truely care about, this is motivating me to keep going forward in life and I hope you'll do the same. In short, keep it up man, fantastic content !
0 likesI think it could be just that when introduced to the idea of there being a cornucopia, we find it so easily plausible that we think "yeah I remember that" and can so easily imagine such a detail in where ever we imagine it from then on. Kind of like deja vu.
0 likesOddly enough, I remember fruit going in the cornucopia because it was a mural outside of a local publix. So I just assumed fruit goes in cornucopias.
0 likesWhen Vinesauce showed the discrepancy picture (during "Slasher's Keep #2" @ 55:08 for anyone wondering), it took me a minute to determine which is was. It's been a while since I've so much as looked at the logo, but they both almost looked correct, if that makes sense.
0 likesThe cornucopia, I thought, made sense from a composition standpoint, at least to a point. It made sense to me, because of the abundance of fruit centered together. A cornucopia would fit perfectly right behind them. However, the reason why I didn't think that it made sense, is mostly because it would make the logo too complex.
I only really remembered it being a relatively small logo that involved fruits (an apple, and some grapes minimum) along with a leaf or two on either sides, so there wasn't much to go off of memory wise. The cornucopia just looked out of place, not necessarily because of the color dispute, but more in terms of size.
I had chosen the picture without the cornucopia, which turned out to be correct. Because looking closely at it, I figured that it really just looked weirder with it. But I understand why someone would think it's there, because the composition (aside from color) makes it really easy to see it existing there.
I just think that the mandala effect is just something people reference when they don't want to admit that they got something wrong. There could be more to it than just misremembering it; maybe someone photo-shopped an image or they saw a knock-off or something. It's mostly just a couple of really, really noise people who don't want to admit that they're wrong, followed by not as noisy people that see the post and go, "hey, they're right, I don't remember it being like this", which makes it spread way more than it should.
I could've sworn it's ALWAYS had a cornucopia on it! That's how I remember it! It to me looks so wrong without it.
0 likesI once tried to sing a song for someone but couldn't remember the name, and when I got to the chorus the person was really shocked. Turns out I had subconsciously mixed the first verse of Smells like teen Spirit with the chorus of Come as you are. It didnt even occur to me that they were different songs, because I had just pitch shifted them together and the results were... interesting to say the least.
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list of thing Dr. Bright is not allowed to do: Sing Nirvana songs,..........
0 likes@Roosevelt Brentwood Come as you [REDACTED]
0 likesI remember not only the cornucopia, but also looking at the regular fruit label and having a feeling it didn't look right, and that was many years ago
0 likesI’m an insanely visual person, always have been. My ability to recall visual details even from my childhood is on the spectrum. The cornucopia did exist. Like others I learned what it was from the logo because that’s the brand of underwear my mom bought me.
1 likeI think someone could insert the cornucopia pretty easily. Firstly, it's fruit. Secondly, the term cornucopia is considered kind of an old-timey term, and so is the fruit of the loom logo. A capri sun clearly has a pretty modern style, so people don't insert it in there.
0 likesI too learned of the term cornucopia from the logo. The year was 1987, I was in my mother's art room, the floor was darkly stained hardwood and the walls were horsehair plaster.
0 likesI actually remembered it with the cornucopia. it just looks more familiar to me vs just the fruit. Which i thought was a updated version. But who knows
0 likesI usually think most of the Mandella effect is dumb, but the fruit of the loom one is probably the one that actually confuses me
0 likesThis is really no different than the Monopoly monocle, groups of fruit and vegetables laid out in that fashion are often in front of a cornucopia. It's not that complicated haha.
0 likesIve NEVER seen the cornucopia. I remember the logo vividly. I always loved the fruits
0 likesIt's pretty obvious given the abundance of similar imagery involving a cornucopia that it mixes memories so you naturally associate that sort of bundle of fruit with a imagery of harvest cornucopias.
0 likesThe brain does that kind of "fill in the blank" all the time and it's not unreasonable to suggest that thousands of people have a similar level of image association.
Also imagine coming from a parallel universe and the only difference was that a corporate logo was slightly different lol. I'd be pissed.
I distinctly remember the cornucopia but only on these old ass sweaters my grandma kept at the hunting shack. Were they knock offs? chances are yes. My family is cheap enough to consider fruit of the loom to be a name brand.
0 likesThe only supposed Mandela effect example I personally experienced was the namesake for it. Before the Mandela effect was a thing I had an experience where I was talking to a couple coworkers and one of them mentioned something about what Nelson Mandela had recently done and I was confused by it and told them I distinctly remembered watching news stories about Nelson Mandela’s death and video clips of his funeral. Other than that original “Mandela Effect” I have no other experiences.
0 likesI actually just a couple days ago had a wild example of the fallibility of perception and memory. I work retail, I was on the register with customer, and I see a dude run out the store and the little, shitty security tag detector that goes of at every other thing, legitimate or not, went off as a man ran out the doors. Didn't look like he had anything obvious to me, and I half-thought he might've just been leaving in a hurry and the shitty detector went off as a fluke, but I figured it was more likely he stole something.
0 likesI let my manager know, she checks the cameras to spot the guy, and you can see, clearly, in the camera, that he was holding a big like, I think cat litter container, and a small trash bin full of other stuff. None of that registered at the time it happened; if this was serious enough to get the police involved, I woulda swore up and down I didn't see a thing in his hands. I was utterly baffled that I could be so blatantly wrong about something that *just happened*.
When emp started bopping his head, that was one if the most wholesome things I've seen
0 likesMaybe it wasn't an ad for another product, but an in store ad/banner for an in store deal/sale, maybe even for fruit of the loom, maybe a fall sale, and maybe the store added the horn of plenty? And that's something we may never find after it's done. Probably just thrown out and never thought of again.
0 likesAnd the thing about the kid thinking the horn was "the loom", I totally remember thinking that too. But now I'm questioning my entire memory lol. Which really we probably should do more often, because it's not very accurate at all.
the type and order of the fruit and leaves seems to suggest a cornucopia to me at least, but I never remembered it having one.
0 likesthe premise of your video is based on the assumption that that pile of fruit wouldn't naturally be associated with a cornucopia, but that's an entirely subjective call. to me the pile of fruit seems very evocative of a cornucopia, and it only takes a small percentage of a population to have a similar association for the effect to occur. remember the typical mind fallacy, you have very little frame of reference for whether your mind works anything like that of others!
0 likesI’ve never heard of Fruit of the Loom but thought the cornucopia was natural.
0 likesEh, I can easily imagine people just adding the cornucopia. Cornucopias, while rare and specific, are fairly simple shapes especially in the mind's eye.
0 likesDo I remember the cornucopia? I don't know. If you told me it had one, I'd believe you. If you told me it didn't, I'd believe that as well. The logo is basically a smudge of colors in my head, it's in a superposition. Same with Looney Tunes or Barenstain bears, Who even thinks about the spelling? Who has such a clear image of brand logos in their head? Who gets that invested in something they barely payed attention too?
I distinctly remember Berenstein Bears, I believe it's the Mandela effect.
0 likesLet me explain, me and my sister grew up with the TV show and the books especially, we learned to read with them!!!!
Another reason I remember it as Stein is because of my mini-stein/ mini-mug growing up.
My grandparents are European immigrants.
So when they shared a beer in the evening watching Jeopardy, me and my sister would also have our shotglass sized steins.
When I learned what a stein cup is and that's what I had, I switched to mini-stein, I felt so sophisticated lol
But if your thinking I was just a drunk kid,
well we only got one shot.
It was about 2010 when this really started.
Me and my sister both noticed the name change, and we thought it was just that.
But the change spawned a joke between us where my sister would make fun of the "new name" by exaggerating it, Quote: BaRenSTAAAIIIIIN Bears.
Really emphasizing the "stain" as in staining your clothes, which she was infamous for.
We both remember it not being "stain" until it became a meme between us.
(Edit, all we knew of the internet was Webkinz)
(Edit 2.5: my mom even remembers the change and discrepancy, idk how to put her words here but quote (I don't know,but that's not what I remember)
And she remembers EVERYTHING.
Could it not just be an example of negative space? Like people saw a logo of fruits spilled out in such a way that they thought it belonged in a Cornucopia? Thanksgiving, Disney’s Hercules, Greek mythology, decorations - there are ample opportunities to see a “complete” cornucopia over time, whole or separated into pieces.
0 likesA lot of people associate piles of vegetables/fruits with cornacopias. As you explained at the start of the video, it's not actually that strange.
0 likesThe Mandela effect comes down to people mixing up stuff in their mind over time.
0 likesMy favorite example for this is the alleged Genie movie that features Sindbad.
I think, besides the facts regarding the topic shown in this video (a commercial with Sindbad dressed up as a Genie, Shaqs Genie movie, etc.), that most people, when they “remember” this, have the movie “Bernard and the Genie” in mind.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101435/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
This is a British Christmas-movie from 1991, that includes, like the title might already suggest, a Genie. It isn´t really a that well known movie, but since it was regularly on tv in the holiday-season here in Germany, I happened to see it quiet a few times when I was younger. According to the IMDB rating, as you can see, it isn´t even a bad movie, sitting solid at 7,5 out of 10.
Not only is the Genie in this a black guy, played by British actor/comedian Lenny Henry, he´s also a cool funny dude, who genuinely cares about the guy who freed him and is willing to use his powers to help him. He is somewhere between a god, rigging reality with his superpowers and a little child, constantly amazed by the technological advancements of the 20th century that are present in everyday live.
Also since it came out in 1991 and thus being way older than the 1996 movie Kazaam, it´s actually also older than the animated Disney movie Aladdin, that came out in 1992 and prominently features a comedic relief Genie. Therefore “Bernard and the Genie” is the first movie that showed the Genie as a nice, genuinely helpful spirit, in the form of a black man.
Even though that Lenny Henry looks nothing like Sindbad at all, it was around this time, in the early 90s, that Sindbad was on the peak of his game. So, at least at that time, mixing them up would have made sense, to some extent.
To close the circle, also look up Sindbad on Google. The first thing that you will find is the original Sindbad the sailor, that since he is a Mid-easterner, that lived in the middle ages, is usually shown in old mid-eastern clothing, kinda like Genies are depicted in pop-culture nowadays, since Genies have their origins in pre-islamic Arabian mythology. In conclusion or
TLDR:
People mix up Sindbad the actor with Sindbad the sailor, who was from the mid-east, the place Genies originate from as well. Because of that Sindbad the sailor and Genies in pop-culture have a similar style of clothing. The idea for a movie centered around a cool blackbro Genie was originally first done in “Bernard and the Genie”, a 1991 British Christmas-movie.
I don’t really agree with what you were saying about the cornucopia being so out of place in terms of color and shape that people couldn’t insert it into their memory. At least for me, when I thought cornucopia I didn’t think of any fruit or colors in particular. The fact that looking up cornucopia brings up specific fruits and colors is very interesting, but to say we associate a cornucopia with said foods and colors is to say that the exact type of food and color is the “important” detail that we remember when we think of a cornucopia. Personally, I just imagine it filled with food haphazardly spilling out, and I don’t care what type of food. When I see food piled up, I can very easily place a cornucopia behind it and imagine it as natural.
0 likesyou should've gotten lastpas to sponsor this video, i can just imagine the transition from "confront the idea that our memory is fallible" to "that's why you need a password manager like lastpas"
0 likesI disagree that imagining a cornucopia behind a pile of grapes and an apple is more farfetched than imagining a monocle on a rich man. Even when you look up Google image results of a cornucopia at 4:34 nearly all pictures have grapes and one or more apples in front of the cornucopia. And sure it's not a very common word but most people have seen an image of one with grapes and possibly other fruit in front of it at least once in their lives so nearly everyone already has a mental concept of it. Monocle isn't a very common word/object but nearly everyone saw a picture of a monocle at least once before, nearly always on a rich man, just like how nearly everyone saw a picture of a cornucopia before, nearly always behind grapes and apples. And besides, looking at the logo doesn't necessarily have to inherently prime people's minds to imagine a cornucopia behind it, because any discussion of this topic prefaces by already showing people the modified logo with the cornucopia behind it, so they don't have to imagine anything because they could see the "Mandela effect" right in front of them.
0 likesWith that said, I do appreciate your relatively science-focused discussion of the Mandela effect, since you avoid most all of the pseudoscience a lot of other YouTube videos covering the topic. As someone who used to be one of these ignorant people, people who think the Mandela effect proves alternate timelines are actually just idiots that don't want to admit they have fallible memories. I'd recommend any believers of the Mandela effect watch Comment Etiquette's very informative video on the topic.
I always thought it was fruit in a wicker basket not a cornucopia... just to be sure, I went through my holiest ginch and checked the shirt tags. no cornucopias
0 likesMany people who claim to have memories of the cornucopia, either noting it or having conversations about it, may be experiencing planted memories - basically, it’s easy to give someone a false memory by suggesting something did happen that did not. I forget the exact study but people who had never been on hot air balloons before were able to recall details of the hot air balloon trip they went on when they were 5 when it was suggested they went on one. If we suggest people have memories of the cornucopia, you may recall one that never happened.
0 likesWhat's weird is, the fruit of the loom logo you have with the cornucopia, is the EXACT logo I remember.
0 likesI remembered the logo as just a pile of fruit, didn’t know people even thought it had a cornucopia
0 likesOk I could swear that it was one apple, one bunch of darker purple grapes (than the ones shown), one ORANGE, a few green grapes, leaves, and a cornucopia. BIZARRE.
0 likesI don't know what I was expecting, but this felt rather underwhelming
0 likesI was born in 2001 and I remember the cornucopia on fruit of the loom strongly in elementary school time span. I didn't know what cornucopia was until this video.
0 likesThis video has freaking destroyed my mind. Great video my guy
0 likesI think an essential part of Mandela stuff is like the "sunk cost fallacy"- people don't like admitting they're wrong. They'd rather make up conspiracies and universe jumping than just go "huh, guess I remembered that wrong."
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Sure, people need to manage their egos, but I spent a non significant amount of thought as a child on that logo, as well as my family naming our dog jiffy. Most Mandela examples are people being idiots, and I’m sure this is the case with jiffy, but this logo... I have VIVID memories looking at the colorless line art on the back of my pants, then my fish tank.
0 likesI can confirm that the issue is that the cornucopia is a bootleg issue, here in Mexico you could see the underwear with the cornucopia in the flea markets
0 likesThe underwear bit threw me lol. I live in the UK and I've only ever seen fotl brand for tshirts/polo shirts. Normaly the ones business use to for their uniforms.
0 likesI think of a cornucopia every time I see a pile of random fruit and vegetables. Maybe my mind is just more intuned in folksy Americana.
0 likesI mean, it would not be far off that fruit of the loom probably did put a cornucopia in the design and then backed down real fast and acted like nothing happened.
0 likesCompanys are known for acting like nothing happened.
Or knock offs sneaking in hard enough
Imagine how much money fruit of the loom could make it they just put a cornucopia on their logo, like I would start shopping their products if they did that honestly
2 likesfrom all the way in my isolated country, i saw the video icon and only recognised the brand from the cornucopia, not knowing it was a big brand and only knowing that i had a shirt of that brand lying around
0 likesThis is the first time I’m hearing of this company.
0 likesIts because in the original logo like the one in the commercials you can see brown parts (either leaves or stems) on each side of the logo, we see the brown and forget the object
1 likeEdit: just got halfway into the video, i still stand with my words
This is such a great video. And I'm not even American, so I can't even relate to this!
0 likesI'm not American, but I also seem to recognize that picture. I think that since we all know of it because history teachers use a lot of pictures in their presentations, and maybe people really just smashed the logo and the pictures together.
0 likesSome of the older logos had the leaves and even grapes in a brown color, that may be it because I do sort of remember brown in some of the logos.
0 likesEmplemon is actually making videos to trick people into thinking the Simpsons were green and not yellow.
0 likesMy theory is that a counterfeit brand, used the cornucopia but we're of shoddy quality & haven't survived the ravages of time & chaffing
0 likesI never remembered a cornucopia. It's just fruit
1 likeI VERY VERY distinctly remember the cornucopia... I am not believing I am wrong, there was somehow a huge coverup.
0 likesMaybe the cornucopia came on off brand fruit of the loom that was sold in major retailers
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Then where’s the clothing Raees? Show me the damn logo on the damn clothing?!
1 like@Seth Montgomery shit idk that’s what makes this confusing for me
1 likeI also remember the VW logo not having a gap in between, but apparently it does
1 likeWhat's funny about this is that I just got a shirt made by these guys
0 likesFor the record, my dad grew up next to the real-life Berenstains. This of course makes him old as shit, so he's not online... and when asked he remembered the name as "Berenstain" and couldn't believe people argued over it. Get rekt, atheists.
0 likesI love these videos, but I miss the meme videos
0 likesMy mom, in her 50s remember a Cornucopia, my grandmother, who's in her 70s! Remembers a cornucopia, but your telling me there ISN'T a cornucopia
0 likesExcuse me, no special thanks to Jeremy the CMLXXXVth for that AMAZING Twilight Zone cover???? Wtf.
0 likesThe closest to the matrix that I've ever been, 2 AM in the red district in Amsterdam. So much tight leather there.
0 likesThis is what you get when you buy cheap underwear that disintegrate after one wash, your brain starts disintegrating.
0 likesDid Emp have a falling out with Mumkey or something? The terms of their relationship seem ambiguous.
0 likesI can sing the entire ultimate showdown song by remembering the flash video xD
0 likesThe mandela effect is an excuse for people to always think they are right
0 likesI thought that was their logo even though I’ve never owned their products and I can trace my first introduction to the cornucopia back to an angry birds game but there’s no images online of it.
0 likesDoes anyone else have memories of the skin color on the Simpsons being yellow and not green? Weird.
0 likesI'm still recovering from the hyphen-less kitkat, don't sabotage my recovery
1 likeI always wondered why they changed it.
0 likesWow, I really thought there was a cornucopia on the Logo and I just checked the t shirt I am wearing and it doesn't have a cornucopia. I was so sure of it gonna check in an old shirt from my dad later
0 likesI remember thinking that a loom was a cornucopia from this logo....
0 likesI don't remember the Cornucopia at all. I guess I haven't been Loompilled yet.
0 likesI’ve never seen a cornucopia outside of the fruit of the loom logo
0 likesA genius stroke putting Wario ware inc over the ad... or was that master stroke?
1 likeEmplemon be like: "I'm original! I'm the best!"
0 likesproceedes to list reasons why he's better than his audience
12:44
0 likesWell Mike, We'd better get to work on Mr. Plinkett's VCR...
I followed Fruit of the Loom on Instagram when they had under 100 followers
0 likesMemory: YouTube compression in real life.
1 likeWho tf thought it had a cornucopia?? It never had that.
1 likeMany times "But Mumkey!" Played in my head....
0 likesthey should add the cornucopia to the logo, it looks better in my opinion
0 likesHavent finished the vid but I’m gonna bet it’s because of thanksgiving imagery
0 likesI never knew Oreo was stuf by brain thought it was stuff for 12 years
0 likesAt the seashell's center lies the Cornucopia's smallest door
0 likesOversaturated bart isnt real, he cant hurt you:
0 likesThe fucking Jerma twilight zone into ad read absolutely killed me
0 likesThing is i never would have even looked it up. Id just be like. Hey they changed their logo. But so does everyone
0 likesgreat video!
0 likesI swear I remember that being on the logo. It’s just freaky I don’t know how to explain it. It just doesn’t add up.
2 likesIm convinced this channel is run by funke and no one can convince me otherwise
2 likesI remember it on the other side of the fruits.
0 likesI just gonna say it, the cornucopia is more likely a brown stain from ermmm... you know where thats the only thing i can think of why ppl are thinking it existed. Its unpleasant to think ppl are bad at wiping or worse
0 likesI LOVE THE RLM PARODY. 🤣
0 likesDefinitely earned my sub
0 likesWhat about “Luke I am your father”? There are toys that say that line and the actor himself remembered this line yet it says different today.
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That’s not Mandela, that the brain packaging a huge line into a meme for easy redistribution. I had a dumbass teacher in middle school who quoted it like, “Luke, I am not your father.” The actual lines follow as such,
0 likesHe told me enough. He told me YOU killed him.
No, Luke. I am your father.
So while technically Luke I am your father is not wrong, it is.
@HiveTyrant36 Middle school teacher said that? Wow that’s interesting thanks Hive mind tyrant.
0 likesI had never even heard of the fruit of the loom before... netherless guessing it was underwear
0 likesThe obvious answer is that the usage in parodies and nock offs created the false memory of the cornucopia
0 likesEven the Bible has changed. What animal lies with the lamb?
0 likesThe Wolf.
It's weird that you say "it's not likely multiple people would have fabricated the same object on the logo", but you give examples of parodies that used the cornicopia. Couldnt these multiple cultural reference be an origin for these false memories? Sort of like how many parodies say "luke i am your father" even though that is not yhe original line
0 likesI never look at my underwear when I pull down my pants to go to the restroom. My big, big pens usually gets in the way of seeing it.
0 likesI want some bugel chips now
0 likesI don't believe in the Mandela Effect, but I swear there was a cornucopia. I distinctly remember it.
0 likesIn 20 years everyone is going to remember Raycon as Gaycon.
0 likesI didn’t know what a cornocoupia was but yea there used to be one
0 likesI like the random Jerma noises at the end
0 likesI love all the koth references
0 likesYou made underwear logo sound like a documentary
0 likesI think i saw the logo in thrift shop, maybe it was a fake, but it had the cornucopia
0 likesYou used to make crazy ytp now youre making vsauce videos. I haven't seen you in so long and was like whaaaa
0 likesGreat video, what's the adult swim show at around 2:14?
0 likesCornicopuia is associated with fruits = associated with fruit of the loom logo
0 likesI like fruit of loom’s white tees. I have a couple
0 likesUh oh... Rusty is drinking again. 🥴
0 likesDo a video about the robber emoji! I swear there was a robber emoji!
0 likesthe jerma clip was a nice touch
0 likesI don't remember it having a cornucopia...?
0 likesthe real reason is why is word altarpiece used more than heatwave
0 likesI never seen an 'Cornucopia' but i know the contemporany fruit of the loom logo is only fruit. But remeber my old underwear had it even if i didint know anyting abouth the brown horn
0 likesBut...I never noticed the cornucopia or even heard of it...
0 likesNo, I saw this logo with the cornucopia in the 90's. I know I have.
0 likes2 minutes in & I damn near lost my mind Lmfaoo
0 likesi like the star_ bits in your videos
0 likesthe mandela effect basically
0 likesedit: not a second later he showed that it was posted on r/mandelaeffect also idk why thats up for debate since theres never been a cornucopia on the fotl logo
Wait, Pikachu doesn't have a black tail?
0 likesAlways been more of a Hanes guy anyway
0 likesWhy is it that every time there is a Mandela effect the reality is that whatever was thought to exist doesn't actually exist? can't when get some wins here and gain something that we thought didn't exist?
0 likesI know that the cornucopia has never been there because it’s ugly enough that I would remember it
0 likesWhat is that color palette program?
0 likesHow'd you get Steve Buchemi to appear in your ad?
0 likesDid anybody else go through their underwear drawer trying to see if they could find it?
0 likesRandom Jerma references never cease to make me laugh
0 likesI never remembered a cornucopia
0 likesMy dad said the logo didn't feature a cornucopia but the old commercials did. is that true?
0 likeswait it doesnt have a cornucopia? holy shit mmy lifes a lie
0 likesI don’t trust big loom.
0 likesPeople just sold off brand fruit of the loom
0 likesThis is just the Mandela effect, I never remembered it with a cornucopia.
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This is the first time I've heard of there being a cornucopia as well. This was a thing? I came to this video expecting some kind of corporate espionage or something. Now I'm wondering why people believed there was a cornucopia on the logo. This is the first time I've ever heard about it. It's cool, but I swear people are tripping.
0 likes@Castroy The Universal Interloper lmao I know right. Title should've just been 'The Fruit of the Loom Mandela Effect', would've been more clear
0 likesIt looks better with the cornicopia tbh
0 likesWAIT ITS NOT FLINSTONES?!?! ITS FLINTSTONES ?!?!?!
0 likesThey may be thinking about the produce junction logo
0 likesI also remember that in the back of the logo....
0 likeslol as someone who wore this shit as a kid, there was never a cornucopia
0 likesBru i swear the logo had a cornucopia.
1 likei fucking never remember a cornucopia
0 likesI feel like I’ve seen this video before...
0 likes12:20 - The Patriots would disagree with that very much.
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Never really thought about the logo or the company before, just wasn't super important is all. Interesting video though.
0 likesAlso... cheeseitz is now... cheesit
0 likesStuff it in the cornucopia.
0 likesso is your brother on the Turndownforwalt melee channel or what?
0 likes12:33 is that a very compact man I hear?
1 likeFroot of the Loop
0 likesWhy is rust cage in this vid is he a friend of him or something
0 likeshow it really happened
0 likesNo one gonna mention the Jerma985 reference?!
0 likesWait what pikachu's tail isnt black??
0 likesDie wichtigste Frage ist: Wieviel shirts hat 4tune verkauft
0 likesPls make one on dr. disrespect, why he got banned and shit
0 likesHyley imp,when you gonna live up to the tweet about shitposting again if biden wins
0 likes11:33 You're telling me I don't understand what shit is?
0 likesLook the human memory is dogshit bad, it was always bad and will continue to be bad for the foreseeable future. I mean, I clearly remember that the Simpsons were yellow, yet here I am seeing green Simpsons, not knowing why.
0 likesI only knew that word as a Black Sabbath song.
0 likesMan I wanna call bullshit, not on the video, I loved the video, but on the most common English word list on Google. Apparently the 2nd most common word is 'be'. 'Be' is more commonly used than 'to'. How often do you hear the word 'be'?? More often than 'to'??? I don't think I do :/
0 likesMandela effect, alternate universe.
0 likesI will die on the cornucopia hill.
1 likeI swear it was there before I swear on it
0 likes03:49 cornucopia
1 like3:15 MUMKEY JONES GOT A CAMEO YOOOOOOOO
0 likesDamn I remember the YouTube poops
0 likesWait the tip of Pikachus tail isn’t black??? Wtf
0 likesI stg I thought the cornucopia was the loom
0 likesIT WAS RONALD REAGAN!
0 likesNah bruh, we livin in an alternate reality...
0 likesJust look at america and covid 19...
Its about to be covid 22. 😂
So good
0 likesHuh I rembered it with out the cornucopia
0 likesSinbad and cornucopias were bigger in the 80s and 90s. As was Nelson Mandela.
0 likesmemory is often like underwear
0 likes2:55 its "Gif" bro...
0 likesWho makes those Mandela effect pictures tho?????
0 likeswait till u learn about airplane engines
0 likesnecessary discrepancy
0 likesThere is a lot of clip art of cornucopia.
0 likeswhy you couldn't find the 7 inch conucopia in the tag? it was in your underwear all along boys
0 likesThis creeps me out!
0 likesThis is why I buy Hanes
0 likesinconsistencies make me crazy.
0 likesi remember Shazam and the Cornucopia
0 likesI remember a basket tho
1 likeSong at 1:56? Couldn't find it in the Pastebin.
0 likesbruh that shit was totally there
0 likesDownward Cornucopia
1 likeBruh nice Jerma and star reference
0 likesWeird somehow got unsubbed must have been when I was clearing my feed. Idk, weird. Must be the Mandela affect and I never was subscribed just watched enough to think I was subscribed. Crazy. I even thought this was the video that made me sub.
0 likesall i see is a glow in the dark
0 likeswe better ask the hardly boys
1 likeI had a school jumper with a cornucopia
0 likes8:20 MAGA - "Mexican American Grocers Association". Oh boy that's unfortunate.
0 likesIt's just an artifact of a simultaneously incredibly efficient, or horribly terrible compression method that we all use.
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