This year I am thankful for RAYCON EARBUDS dropping me a fat wad of cash for the holiday season. Visit https://buyraycon.com/emplemon for 20% off your order.

I can't wait until everyone remembers it as Raycon instead of Reycon.

I can't wait until everyone remembers it as Raycon instead of Reycon.

Honestly I fucked with my raycons pretty hard until I lost the box

Honestly I fucked with my raycons pretty hard until I lost the box

Trash products but we need that holiday bag

Trash products but we need that holiday bag

At 10:08 , Depends on the Pikachu we are talking about. Normal male and female pikachu have no black on their tail. However, If we are talking about the Cosplay forms of pikachu introduced in Pokémon X and Y, that, sadly, probably won’t come back, they do have a bit of black on their tail, however with the Cosplays it’s in the shape of a heart, with the tip pointing toward the body of pikachu.

Hey, I have a argument for Cornucopia Fruit of the Loom; if everyone remembers the exact same cornucopia Drawing, it couldn’t possibly be the Mandela effect!

Pretty sure there was a fruit of the loom knockoff with a cornucopia

Pretty sure there was a fruit of the loom knockoff with a cornucopia

@Universpro because the main example of it is that people often think that nelson Mandela died in prison when he actually died much later

anyone who expects to find the old logo, doesn't understand mandela effect.

You know I’m sick of people thinking that the Mandela effect thing makes sense.... What does make sense is maybe the consideration of time travel there are numerous incidents in movies and culture where something changes but people can somewhat recollect it being a little different.

Raycons suck, see DankPods' video on them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyzMSevpT2I

Emp, thank you for making my days better, your vids are awesome and i hope you're doing well through this irl apocolypse. Again, Thank you.

Its because in the original logo like the one in the commercials you can see brown parts (either leaves or stems) on each side of the logo, we see the brown and forget the object

Yo Emp. You should make another NASCAR video about the story of Bobby Alison. He lost all of his children and eventually his wife as he went from NASCAR legend to living with his mother to his rebound in life after NASCAR.

@ rob productions he should one last time

@ rob productions he should one last time

I'm praying you do another video like your how Trump used memes but on biden and how he used massive voter fraud to cheat an election. If you did a video on that I'd be so happy.

I'm sorry but raycons are not a good pair of wireless headphones

I'm sorry but raycons are not a good pair of wireless headphones

@bbtootall I say you're the only one triggered  in this comment section and his reply about raking in the dough comment. No one else. Let that sink in for a few minutes. Oh no, you won't! Hahaha typical try hard child on the internet  lol

@bbtootall Lol I like how you took the bait. :)

@bbtootall Lol I like how you took the bait. :)

@EmpLemon [ANGERY INTENSIFIES FOR RAYCON SPONSOR AND RAYCON BEANS]

@EmpLemon [ANGERY INTENSIFIES FOR RAYCON SPONSOR AND RAYCON BEANS]

We are investing in this meme:https://youtu.be/25l96_-5PZI

We are investing in this meme:https://youtu.be/25l96_-5PZI

too bad raycons make everything sound like bass boosted memes

too bad raycons make everything sound like bass boosted memes

Interesting talking points discussed about the strangeness of the missing cornucopia. You know, they sound strangely identical to the very same ones I covered in my videos last year...IN FACT several images you displayed are also oddly familiar!..Wonder why that is🤭

@bbtootall Let's count how many times you can cry in this comment shall we? So far you have 14. Don't keep me waiting! 😆

@bbtootall So you will cry about a handout? That's cool 🤣

@bbtootall So you will cry about a handout? That's cool 🤣

@bbtootall Keep flapping your keyboard. That's all you're good for 😆

@bbtootall Keep flapping your keyboard. That's all you're good for 😆

@bbtootall Lol you sure try too hard haha. But keep up the crying in this comment section. :)

@bbtootall Seems like you have a lot of time on your hands. 😆

@bbtootall Seems like you have a lot of time on your hands. 😆

Lightning McQueer and the quest for tires 2 WHEN

Lightning McQueer and the quest for tires 2 WHEN

They aren’t really good. There’s a video about it showing the sound poor.

They aren’t really good. There’s a video about it showing the sound poor.

weird thing: fruit of the loom produced the clothes used in the place where i had my workers education as a ldnscaper. not underwear but shirts and t-shirts. well i also saw a cornucopia even though i never saw or heard of fruit of the loom before. im from germany btw.

@bbtootall I'm sure your a nice guy but people need money and they will take the easy way out because they don't want to work 12 hours a day with no vacation.

@bbtootall Lol stop wasting your time You could be doing anything else.

@bbtootall Lol stop wasting your time You could be doing anything else.

@bbtootall Conservatives dont need to be opposed of Welfare, Stalin for example pretty conservative

Nearly every Mandela effect I've ever encountered has been one like this.
One which can be dismissed as "poor memory" because it's simply too obscure in our daily lives to be important.
And it's not important enough historically to be ingrained in our memory.

Nearly every Mandela Effect seems to be like this, Except for 2. And these 2... relate. Which is something I've never seen in any other Mandela Effect.

 The Black Tom explosion of 1916.

Although it does not stand alone in this fact, the Black Tom explosion of 1916 was an event that helped pave the way for the entry of the United States into
World War 1. What is the Black Tom explosion? The Black Tom explosions was an event in which Germans destroyed a stockpile of Munitions and Weaponry that
was being stored on a New Jersey pier. Inside of that compound was about 100k Pounds of TNT. When it exploded the force was so great It was measured
to be as powerful as a Magnitude 5 Earthquake and shattered windows 25 miles away.

The Damage to the Statue of Liberty's Arm

Despite the fact that many people have stated they remember being in the torch, looking out and even being in the torch as late as the day before 9/11.
9/11 itself did not cause the Statue of Liberty's arm to be shutdown. In fact it wasn't shutdown over security concerns at all. The Statue of Liberty's arm has been shutdown
ever since July 30th 1916. When the Black Tom Explosion sent debris into several parts of the statue, it was determined travelling up the arm to the torch was too dangerous.

These two, seemingly non-important Mandela effects are absolutely mind boggling.

First, I've never had a 2-part Mandela Effect. Second, this one breaks are the standards of most Mandela Effects:
- It's not related to a logo or fictional character. [Yes I know the statue of liberty is technically a fictional character, but I mean in the sense that it's not physically real.]
- It's not related to a name or title.
- It's not related to innocuous or forgettable events, ideas or items.
- It's not related to a tiny insignificant detail

The Statue of Liberty has, is and will continue to be a national landmark, that is visited by people all of the world. World War 1 and 9/11 are both insanely memorable events, whether you were there for them or not. And they're so distant in terms of time periods, mixing the two up is just insane, not to mention the reasons for both explanations are completely different. the 9/11 claim was for security while the historical explanation is for safety following explosion damage. Explosion damage from an event most people seem to have not heard of.

That last part is mostly an assumption, but damn near every person I've asked about this, online or offline, and even those in the field of History, typically have never heard of the Black Tom explosion. Nor do they note it as a major historical event. Despite the fact that it shakes the foundations of many parts of World War 1 and of course the Statue of Liberty.  The Black Tom explosions supposedly was a major event which was one of the catalysts that took us into WW1 and with an explosion so strong people in Philadelphia felt it, there's a massive Black out in memory regarding the Black Tom explosion.

This is absolutely insane, and continues to haunt me. As prior to the Black Tom Explosion + Statue of Liberty Torch Mandela Effect combo, I had basically just shoved the Mandela Effect aside as an ape-brain memory thing that our meat sack minds just jumble up and ruin. But this event is both documented well but represented so little, along with the strong memories of people being inside of parts of the Statue of Liberty that had been closed likely since before they were born just cannot be explained away as a memory thing.

Maybe it's a Mandela Effect, or maybe there is something else here I'm not seeing. But either way, this one absolutely blows my mind every time I look into it.

Nearly every Mandela effect I've ever encountered has been one like this.
One which can be dismissed as "poor memory" because it's simply too obscure in our daily lives to be important.
And it's not important enough historically to be ingrained in our memory.

Nearly every Mandela Effect seems to be like this, Except for 2. And these 2... relate. Which is something I've never seen in any other Mandela Effect.

 The Black Tom explosion of 1916.

Although it does not stand alone in this fact, the Black Tom explosion of 1916 was an event that helped pave the way for the entry of the United States into
World War 1. What is the Black Tom explosion? The Black Tom explosions was an event in which Germans destroyed a stockpile of Munitions and Weaponry that
was being stored on a New Jersey pier. Inside of that compound was about 100k Pounds of TNT. When it exploded the force was so great It was measured
to be as powerful as a Magnitude 5 Earthquake and shattered windows 25 miles away.

The Damage to the Statue of Liberty's Arm

Despite the fact that many people have stated they remember being in the torch, looking out and even being in the torch as late as the day before 9/11.
9/11 itself did not cause the Statue of Liberty's arm to be shutdown. In fact it wasn't shutdown over security concerns at all. The Statue of Liberty's arm has been shutdown
ever since July 30th 1916. When the Black Tom Explosion sent debris into several parts of the statue, it was determined travelling up the arm to the torch was too dangerous.

These two, seemingly non-important Mandela effects are absolutely mind boggling.

First, I've never had a 2-part Mandela Effect. Second, this one breaks are the standards of most Mandela Effects:
- It's not related to a logo or fictional character. [Yes I know the statue of liberty is technically a fictional character, but I mean in the sense that it's not _physically_ real.]
- It's not related to a name or title.
- It's not related to innocuous or forgettable events, ideas or items.
- It's not related to a tiny insignificant detail

The Statue of Liberty has, is and will continue to be a national landmark, that is visited by people all of the world. World War 1 and 9/11 are both insanely memorable events, whether you were there for them or not. And they're so distant in terms of time periods, mixing the two up is just insane, not to mention the reasons for both explanations are completely different. the 9/11 claim was for security while the historical explanation is for safety following explosion damage. Explosion damage from an event most people seem to have not heard of.

That last part is mostly an assumption, but damn near every person I've asked about this, online or offline, and even those in the field of History, typically have never heard of the Black Tom explosion. Nor do they note it as a major historical event. Despite the fact that it shakes the foundations of many parts of World War 1 and of course the Statue of Liberty.  The Black Tom explosions supposedly was a major event which was one of the catalysts that took us into WW1 and with an explosion so strong people in Philadelphia felt it, there's a massive Black out in memory regarding the Black Tom explosion.

This is absolutely insane, and continues to haunt me. As prior to the Black Tom Explosion + Statue of Liberty Torch Mandela Effect combo, I had basically just shoved the Mandela Effect aside as an ape-brain memory thing that our meat sack minds just jumble up and ruin. But this event is both documented well but represented so little, along with the strong memories of people being inside of parts of the Statue of Liberty that had been closed likely since before they were born just cannot be explained away as a memory thing.

Maybe it's a Mandela Effect, or maybe there is something else here I'm not seeing. But either way, this one absolutely blows my mind every time I look into it.

@delmy lopez probably an unlisted video that patreons got a link to before it went out to the public or something.

@WindowsLogic Productions I’m actually fine with people being sponsored by rayon, but after some actual reviews of those earbuds, it turns out they’re pretty shitty quality.

Don’t buy them though, they’re WAYYY too basey. Like, that’s all you hear 😂

Don’t buy them though, they’re WAYYY too basey. Like, that’s all you hear 😂

@Maalik I'm very sad to see YouTube sponsorships becoming synonymous with buyer beware products...

A special thanks to yesterdays sponsor raid shadow legends.

Jiffy was a popcorn [Jiffy Pop], and baking mix...

Jiffy was a popcorn [Jiffy Pop], and baking mix...

One thing I should note: The Berenstain Bears thing isn't simply because of the -Stein suffix being common, it's also because of the fact that several tapes were misprinted to say Berenstein rather than -stain.

Yessssssssssss, thank you for posting again. Love you Emp❤

Yessssssssssss, thank you for posting again. Love you Emp❤

I remember the cornucopia from a donut shop I used to go too as a elementary school kid. The wall had some old advertisement art depicting fruit and meat with a cornucopia in the background

@ilusions4 Just get some Sony MDR-7506 headphones

@ilusions4 Just get some Sony MDR-7506 headphones

galaxy buds are the same price and better

galaxy buds are the same price and better

@Athena Kuld One of my favourite channels on YouTube.

@Athena Kuld One of my favourite channels on YouTube.

@WindowsLogic Productions fellow DankPods bro?

@WindowsLogic Productions fellow DankPods bro?

Maybe in the u.s they are not expensive but brands like dickies or fruit of the loom are expensive in europe compared to "cheap" brands. So it could be something with the copyright

@average Weezer fan  No, First off emp needs money to pay his bills, and most of the time he gets copy striked and demonetized. second, Raycon earbuds are a good product that don't break there promises unlike raid  COUGH COUGH. if emp did not have  sponsors his content would be significantly worse,  due to the lack of funding. And you can just skip the part of the video where he sponsors it. We all gotta eat.

Bro when you said both underwear and memory are doomed to be stained i felt that....😔

Alright this is kinda stupid, but if memory is like this, isnt it possible that when I was doing something important in my life, I actually forgot to wash my hands well after using the bathroom and I had germs all over my hands, even though I remembered washing my hands correctly? Or is it really just not that bad unless I get sick due to how rare it would be?

Emp, you can't keep hinting at a Jerma vs. Star video for like two years and not release it. Come on, everybody wants to see this happen. We need to know what really happened before anyone can say it's over.

Well made video Emp. Looking forward to your next big video in a few months!

@WindowsLogic Productions I agree with that

@WindowsLogic Productions I agree with that

The comment was commented 16 hours ago and this video came out 12 minutes ago

I remember remembering a Pokemon’s stat’s being different from what it really was.

Yikes man i was here first minute and its already demonitized

Yikes man i was here first minute and its already demonitized

@APPLE Get some Apple dirty buds, these are a rip off

@APPLE Get some Apple dirty buds, these are a rip off

emplemon thank you for being an epic lad

emplemon thank you for being an epic lad


Huh, this was pretty cool. I too remember it with a cornucopia honestly.

Isn't this very adequately and simply explained, by people seeing OTHER images—with the same motif to the FotL-logo—featuring a fucking corn-dog?

Oh that cornucopia existed in their logo. 100%.

Oh that cornucopia existed in their logo. 100%.

@TheCat 3 It was their. The orignal logo had the cornucopia. It changed rather quickly but people want to mind fuck you with this mendela effect. I used to stock fruit of loom shirts in a clothing store back in the early 90s. I seen the tag a thousands of times to know what I saw. This Mendela effect may be real but it made a huge mistake. It may have erased it from reality but not from our brains

@Evil Dax only the in fabric one was potentially real, the tag one in that video the dude said someone photoshopped it

@Evil Dax not a knock off? Actual fruit of the loom?

@Evil Dax not a knock off? Actual fruit of the loom?

@TheCat 3  i got proof. The fruit of loom t shirt tag logo on my old shirt had a cornucopia on it

Just some coronavirus with Internet Access

@TheCat 3 Mandela effect dictates it'd be impossible to give you proof because it wouldn't exist on this timeline. Basically if we crossed into a new timeline, then it never had one here and looking up old clothing will not have it. It is a very insidious glitch. You are meeting two shards and overwriting differences. If you did that to your files they would all move in and any files that swear you were different will have no way of believing you or any attempt at proving it to them them.

someone proved the company applied for a trademark extension and the document gives a very vivid description of the logo, and that includes the cornucopia. I think I saw it posted on reddit.  i think applied for in the 90's maybe...

@lol stop bruh I was  confused asf I knew the logo had the chordates on the logo

I saw the logo he put up at first, and then as soon as he added the cornucopia I was blown away, wondering how I could've missed such a huge missing detail that I distinctly remembered.

I never heard of Fruitof the Looms so I cant judge

I never heard of Fruitof the Looms so I cant judge

I think if it never existed anywhere in the logo then maybe it's because we first hear of the brand as kids and are like "loom?? What's that?" And think well where would fruit be in and think oh that basket thing u see with fruit and vegetables in it that must be what a loom is.

@My fellow Sonic fans Im still trying to wrap my head around the fact that pikachu doesnt have a black tail tip

Do you though, or did you just see that image for the first time in a long time because that’s the first image you see on this video and so your mind made you think that’s what it <b>definitely</b> looked like.

Do you though, or did you just see that image for the first time in a long time because that’s the first image you see on this video and so your mind made you think that’s what it *definitely* looked like.

same and I swear pikachu had a black bit on his tail...

100x this as a kid I had no idea what that thing was until I was in third grade.

You cannot fool me.

For me, I don't remember it being specifically either way, but I do think the cornucopia one looks more "right."

A lot of the other examples, I didn't feel strongly either way for. Some I didn't even fall for.

Nice to see you watch this person too, Roanoke.

Nice to see you watch this person too, Roanoke.

Cornucopia.<br>I never heard that word until yesterday and now i am seeing this here on youtube after seeing memes about it on instagram

Cornucopia.
I never heard that word until yesterday and now i am seeing this here on youtube after seeing memes about it on instagram

My dad's girlfriend had a shirt from them with it. That was the first time I saw the brand. I was confused to not see it when I saw this video now I know why

AH so this is what you're doing when you're not giving biology lessons. Honestly, kinda underwhelmed. Normally seeing a teacher outside of class is more exciting.

@Stabin Cabin I have drawings of long ago with pikachu having a black stripe. With no access to outside drawings and trying to copy it exactly it's odd that I drew a stripe. Because apparently there was never one.

So now I'm not sure if I actually remember the cornucopia or if watching this video has planted a false memory of the cornucopia but I could have sworn after watching this video that there was one.

@Electric punch you might be in a different timeline now

I remember noticing that there was no cornocopia and thinking "huh I guess I always looked at it wrong and never closely"

@Darksider .- see what, the non existent proof? Your comment makes no sense

Maybe we need to look at the toes to tell the truth of this

Do you remember pikachu having a black stripe on its tail?

when I saw him add it it kinda just looked right, like it should be there even though I know its not a part of the logo

As with a lot of other Mandela effects, I too remember it as well. I even have an old bias tape (sewing item) FOTL put out in the 60s.. it doesn't exist there either.  My husband is a process engineer for Fruit so I get reminded of this logo discrepancy daily 😁

Guys, Roanoke gaming also remember it with a cornucopia an he's honest about it. And he also finds it "pretty cool". The word "huh" was also used here, which is not used that often but often enough to be used and understood.

It was defintely on the packaging, the one part of the product that's discarded immediately after opening the product. Who bought new pairs of underwear and kept the plastic bag it came in? That's why it's different on the clothes compared to how we first remember it. So I guess we'll have to scour the earth for vintage, unopened underwear bundles now.

@lol stop welcome to the 46,333,382,332,769.832 timeline!

I LITERALLY DUG THROUGH AND DESTROYED MY DRAWERS LOOKING AT MY T SHIRTS AND UNDERWEAR TRYING TO FIND THAT DAMN CORNICOPIA AND FOUND NOTHING...

I SWEAR THEY WERE THERE BEFORE I WATCHED THIS VIDEO

I don’t remember a cornucopia, but honestly I like the look of the cornucopia in the back better than the actual logo


I'd say in my personal experience. The Fruit logo was always just the fruits. But I think my memory included the Cornucopia because it was there whenever I got one to color in from kindergarten as some Thanksgiving activity.

@Postmodern Recycler It makes total sense, however it does not account for all the foreigners like myself <br>who neither learned about thanksgiving in school /kindergarten nor celebrated it, but still vividly remember the horn being there.............

@Postmodern Recycler It makes total sense, however it does not account for all the foreigners like myself
who neither learned about thanksgiving in school /kindergarten nor celebrated it, but still vividly remember the horn being there.............

Екатерина Мартюшина

Very interesting…I wonder how many other memories we add and take away from…

@SevenFoot Pelican I grew up in the 2000s/2010s though and I was a toddler when the 90s ended so I personally wouldn't remember the 80s/90s I only even started watching 80s/90s media over the past few years but I remember the logo having the cornucopia.

I'm beginning to think this as well. But I don't know. What was the image I saw of a cornucopia that got me to conflate it? I guess cornucopias were just common to see in images back in the 80's and 90's for some reason? They're hardly shown in any sort of images today... it just makes the whole thing that much more mysterious

@G I'm British and we don't celebrate Thanksgiving but I specifically remember The cornucopia.<br>I thought it was a weirdly shaped fruit bowl and I remember asking my dad about it in the car and him telling me it's a cornucopia.

@G I'm British and we don't celebrate Thanksgiving but I specifically remember The cornucopia.
I thought it was a weirdly shaped fruit bowl and I remember asking my dad about it in the car and him telling me it's a cornucopia.

there are countries where they don't celebrate thanksgiving and they remember it all the same

There are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association

Nailed it.

And you can understand why even EMP would miss this.

@Tiara Nietfeld It's not a loom. It's a cornucopia. A loom is what makes clothes.

Yeah the art style and thanks giving activity stuff reminds me of that charlie brown art style and thanksgiving cards

I was thinking the same too, except I was thinking of store displays, school makes a lot more sense I seem to remember such line art on colored work sheets from elementary school.

Hmm that would also explain why the logo with the stock cornucopia looks exactly what people remember because worksheets would have the stock cornucopia as well.

I think this is the most logical response. I remember the loom, personality. But I also remember seeing fruits and vegetables in looms a lot during Thanksgiving.

Yeah I am almost certain I saw this at school during Thanksgiving and related the imagery to the logo on my underwear lol

Definitely.  Cornucopias used to be a ubiquitous Thanksgiving decoration.  My mom always put one on the dining table.  School decorations always had them.  I colored many of those activity sheets in elementary grades.

I think this has to be it. Elementary school around thanksgiving had a bunch of worksheets with cornucopias and random groups of fruit.


It’s so funny you mention the part about calling a cornucopia a “loom” because I swear I had the exact same experience


I had no idea fruit of the loom made underwear, in the UK I think they’re more commonly associated with custom branded t-shirts

yeah, i'm not from UK but also from Europe and i had couple custom T-Shirts with Froot of the Loom logo... and what is funny i clearly remember cornucopia being there!

@Irish Jet nah they didn't have the fruit logo on it, it was just a fruit of the loop brand t-shirt with a print on the front for something else.

Absolutely, like pe kits and kids clubs uniforms

Seriously?!  I live in the Midwest, and all I've ever associated Fruit of the Loom with is underwear and white undershirts.  If I wore a t-shirt with their branding, it would be like...an underwear shirt.

yeah think my PE shirt in school was fruit of the loom and im sure it had a cornucopia so weird

Wait thats true! I've been thinking why fruit of the loom sounds like a familiar brand even tho i've never used them. I've bought some shirts from the flea markets!


As an Australian I have never heard of this company nor seen their logo. As soon as I saw the logo it looked like it was missing something though, it seems too wide.

The removal of the cornucopia is symbolic in our country having less abundance of all

@draguO doT Well the cornucopia isn't a loom, a loom is a thing used for sewing clothes (because they are a clothes company)

Exactly, it also seems as if the leaves and fruits should have a purpose or be kept in place by something. Not mentioning how the word loom sort of implies there’s something else other than fruits on the logo.


It would be legendary if Fruit of The Loom went full mad lad and started putting cornucopias on every 10,000th underwear

They did use the cornucopia logo on April Fools Day 2022

@MD24 Clips Yeah that works better, someone else suggested 1 million but I think it's too much, 100k is perfect

@RED A minute amount of conglomorated tomfoolery.

That's not rare enough, make it once every 100,000

then people start putting them on ebay for thousands lmao

@BakruptFern329 A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

If it weren’t for those meddling underwear companies...

Thats a bit much. If they did it for every 1,000,000 underwear noone woukd be able to prove it

Ryan my man, this is mad genius level of genius.

And it's hand drawn badly to make it seem like a hoax.

Well great, now they're gonna see your comment and do exactly that. This is indeed where the fun begins.


As you saw when googling cornucopia, there is tons of clip art and stuff showing essentially the exact same layout as the imagined logo. This is where I think the discrepancy comes from. While cornucopias are a generally obscure object, I distinctly remember as a kid learning about Thanksgiving seeing tons of drawings and clip art of them CONSTANTLY at the time. I don't think it's that crazy to think we just ingrained that ensemble of fruit laid out in front of a cornucopia and see the similarly assembled Fruit of the Loom fruit and subconsciously place one behind them in our memory.

I personally remember the logo with it. It feels more natural to me. But I also acknowledge that I'm likely doing what you said elsewhere in the video and creating an amalgamation of childhood experience in my mind. The reason why we also don't place one behind other logos like you showed with the capri suns is because that isn't even the logo for capri sun. It's just the image on the packaging, that changes from pouch to pouch. It hasn't been a consistent thing. Also, the Fruit of the Loom logo is a cartoon while the images on the capri suns are real photos. I think you'd actually be hard pressed finding another product logo with a similar cartoon fruit layout. There probably isn't one, at least a well known one, because it would lean into trademark territory.

I remember it being weird that there was a cornucopia with fruit when I had associated it with just vegetables.

@hiker699 i just remember seeing a shell shaped basket or something in the logo, before i saw this video i didnt know what it was

@hiker699 still doesn't explain how everyone could've imagined such an obscure object in the same color and position across the world

You’ve seen one outside of the Fruit of the Loom logo. Otherwise you wouldn’t know what a cornucopia is, considering the logo didn’t have one.

i'm from the netherlands, and i also remember the logo havind a "cornucopia", even though i've never seen one outside of the fruit of the loom logo.

@eat hot chip and lie Had to look that up I'm from Florida have never seen or heard of that

I wonder if the Hannaford logo is to blame in some of this. While also lacking a cornucopia, it does have a shape behind the fruits - which by the way, are shaded in a very similar cross-hatch way to the FotL fruits. This may have turned into a cornucopia in some people's minds.

Furthermore, I know that Hannafords will display cornucopias in ads and on displays around Fall time. Perhaps shared childhood memories of shopping for food and clothing, which could realistically have been done on the same day, could have blended the logos and imagery together.

@FlashPone That's my point fruit baskets are definitely more common than cornucopias only seen once a year, and like the video said I associaite cornucopias with vegetables and fall colors. Why would that be where everyones mind goes? I see bunched up fruit all the time my mind could've just left it alone.  A fruit basket is basically like a picnic basket, or what holds fruits at farmers markets. Much more common and much more likely to be imagnied by so many, even a bowl would make more sense. Then there's the problem with foreigners who had never even seen the object. People who distinctly remember asking their parents "what's the shell looking thing on my underwear?". Even the artist in the video who made a parody of the logo on a song, but from decades ago. There's no popular similar logo to this to rationalize such a random association. I can rationalize the monoply guy because there's so many things you can confuse it with but seasonal childhood clipart is not a good enough explanation for me especially with the holes that I mentioned.

@Chloé I never said “coloring one once”. I’m saying seeing a LOT of clip art, images, etc of them. I definitely remember that as a kid. And I don’t think justifying it by saying MILLIONS of people think that so they must be right. There has been how many times in history where whole groups of people thought a certain way that was obviously wrong. Humans are fallible. If one human mind can have a false memory, so can a million. And I don’t even know what a “fruit basket” looks like. That’s such a generic descriptor, while a cornucopia is a specific object.

@FlashPone I think over millions it's a reach to blame false memory for the reasons I said but that's my opinion. Besides coloring a cornucopia once in pre-k which is a flawed reason considering grown adults and foreigners, there's no reason so many would recall something so obscure. A fruit basket would make more sense and if the brain wanted to badly to place something behind the fruit there would be some people recalling maybe other objects like a fruit basket but everyone remembers the same obscure object, a cornucopia, going to the right.

@Chloé Like I said, the brain is easily conditioned into having false memories. They could easily THINK they have that memory, but don’t. And people tell other’s the story and others say “Huh, I think I remember that too.” And then suddenly they “remember” it. Personally, I think the look with the cornucopia looks right and is the design I “remember”, but I also acknowledge I’m probably just wrong.

@FlashPone People could've "remembered" a normal fruit basket too, but everyone saw a cornucopia. Some people say the tag was their first time even seeing the object and remember thinking "what is that shell looking thing" or asking someone what is that,  it's just too specific to be made up by so many people who have never met eachcother. And this is coming from someone who tried to rationalize the monocle on the monopoly guy but this one I can't explain, there's no other popular brands sporting cornucopias for people to get so confused.

@FlashPone Millions of kids and adult saw the same non existent thing even the same color? If iIcolored it as a kid it was black and white but everyone even remembers the same shade of brown. Foreigners who don't celebrate thankgiving? If I don't know how popular cornucopia clip art is for it to be so widely agreed upon.

@Chloé Adults are human beings too, and the human memory is notoriously shitty. That’s why eyewitness testimony is not admissible evidence in court. People can misremember stuff that happened hours earlier.

@FlashPone Yes but there's also grown adults who remember it too... who were adults back then. And one thing is not focusing on details and another thing is inserting an object that was completely  not there. Millions of people remember it, not 100 or 1000 it's very weird

@Chloé It’s definitely just a false memory, lol. Our brains are built to create false stories if we can’t fully remember something. Almost nobody remembers their childhood correctly. And kids tend not to focus on small details like every detail of a random logo. So if someone is like “Didn’t this used to look like X?” people will probably not be able to fully remember. There is no evidence of dimension swapping or anything lmao.

@FlashPone   Yes but foreigners don't celebrate thanksgiving, i would maybe understand if you said we all sat and colored somthing so it got in our brains but it's such a random object for someone who doesn't celebrate thanksgiving and doesn't speak our language to randomly inject. People have a lot of stories of asking their parents what the "loom" is or thinking the cornucopia was called a loom, loom and cornucopia sound nothing alike. It is very weird that everyone remembers it. Pause at 5:31 the reddit posts, it's what really started to make me realize it can't just be a false memory

@Chloé Again, maybe because they saw simplified clip art or something as a kid? And thinking it is called a loom is just because they thought it was there and thought that’s what the brand name was referring to.

There are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association


The strangest  thing, to me, is that living in Italy I've never associated Fruit of the Loom to underwear, but only to t-shirts, sweatshirts or hoodies. I've nevers seen Fruit of the Loom underwear.

@Gordon Shumway are you trying to be funny :D ? I don't remember any cornucopias, btw. And obviously no, we don't celebrate thanksgiving, but some sort of "harvest celebration" is still celebrated in some rural zones.

Do you remember it with a cornucopia? Do you celebrate Thanksgiving in Italy? lol


I avidly remember the cornucopia and even have a story about it If you care to read

This was around 2006 to 2007ish?
I was very young at the time and noticed the cornucopia on a display sign. I recognized the object from thanksgiving. I asked my mom what the brown thing was called on that sign she told me it was a cornucopia. I decided that fruit of the loom was my favorite brand cause it had a unusual object that reminded me of holidays. I asked her what the sign said she said fruit of the loom. I kept saying fruit of the loom over and over so I’d remember my new favorite brand.
The theory it’s an off brand would make more sense except for the fact it was on a display sign in Walmart. This is the only Mandela effect I can’t come up with some kind of reason why I created a false memory.

Same thing with me, both my parents are designers and often talked about logos, that's why I learned the word cornucopia.

I remember it too! It’s how I learned what the word cornucopia means, because I wanted to know what the brown basket was called. This was also in the early 2000s.

Same here at a Walmart too except 2004 or 2005

@Snacks how do you explain then me not seeing it on the logo, wayyy before this whole “Mandela effect” thing was ever even thought of & wondering where the cornucopia was?

@Amelia Madden same!!!! My EXACT thoughts upon not seeing it on the logo & this was WAYYYY before the whole “Mandela effect” thing!

Yep! I ONLY know what one is from asking my mom what it was when I was little too looking at a fruit of the loom advertisement sign in Walmart!

"I was very young at the time"

There ya go, that's why you're misremembering it having the cornucopia.

i have the same thing with crisp/chip flavours in the UK, alot of people here think the colours of 2 flavours switched - and whereas there is a logical explanation i could swear on my life i remember being about 7 and my friend having a bag of them at school and i tried them for the first time and made a mental note i didnt like the "blue" flavour he gave me - which now is (and always has been) the green flavour.

Slowly over time I've come to accept the possibility (not reality) that cornucopias were items that were very popular in the 80's and 90's... you'd see them in a lot of thanksgiving-related images.. and Fruit of the Loom is the only widespread logo in the world with a collection of fruit (plus, older variations of the logo had large brown leaves on the logo which we also could have short-circuited to be a cornucopia). so our mind automatically pairs it with cornucopia's.. but it's such a damn mystery... I think the human mind plays this trick because the cornoopia is such a strange, unconventional and rare item to see - so it's difficult to remember where we first saw it, since it's shown so rarely in images that we automatically pair it with a well known corporate logo.

@LeonFuego unanswerable question. Having a specific memory about a clothing logo featuring a cornucopia is much less likely to be false than a memory of maybe washing dishes one time

Maybe you mixed up your memories from the past. Memories fade as we age. Maybe you saw something with fruits and a cornucopia and thought it was associated with the fruit of the loom brand. My dad told me that when I was younger, I was sent to boarding school and would cry everyday but I can’t for the life of me recollect these memories

@John R that's the whole point of the video. The memory is as specific as that. I mean, what would be a less specific false memory?

@LeonFuego no, not as randomly specific a memory as that.

@Alex I really doubt it as the nearest target is hours away. It was likely a Walmart

I associated it with the brand so much that I remember shopping a few years ago and noticing its absence. I said to my partner “huh, they trimmed down their logo—modernized it. I miss the cornucopia”

You probably saw an unrelated picture of a cornucopia with fruit, then mistakenly associated it with Fruit of the Loom.

Why do you need a reason for a false memory? Our brains do that all the time.

@Normal Stranger Lmao no, it was a short phase

Is fruit of the loom still your favorite brand?

@Anne Kaltschmidt I did unfortunately she doesn’t remember. She does agree it should have a cornucopia though

could you ask your mother about the incident?


Even as an Australian, where Thanksgiving doesn't exist. I remember the logo having a cornucopia.

@SporkNotFork Lol, really??? Ngl, checking it up just now had been the only time I've ever actually seen the Victoria coat of arms, and I've lived in the state most of my life 'xD lmao

@Hedera  True but I mean despite being an uncommon item it’s not impossible for the idea of a fruit pile and a cornucopia to be seen over there too. For example the Coat of Arms of Victoria, Australia has a cornucopia in it so it’s not like people don’t know about them there or anything lol

@J.J. McCullough Yeah but Thanksgiving generally isn't one of them here in Australia (at least, not in my experience). We definitely get a lot of Halloween influence tho (and more recently 'Black Friday' stuff, which can actually be seen as quite insensitive here as "Black Friday" is a term used to refer to a terrible bush fire disaster we had here in the late 30s).

@modernmalls it’s not that strange. Non Americans are exposed to American cultural tropes constantly since they consume all the same media.


Managed to unveil some pretty eye opening things by just focusing on a brand of underwear. Impressive.

You really should collab with Emp, good projects can come out of that.

I would never think that this stuff would come out of some fruit.


I just found this one out. Yeah it definitely had a cornucopia. I remember as a kid wondering what the hell that weird shaped basket was on multiple occasions. Man some of these really freak me out.

Yeah I always remembered it as a weird shaped basket

I don’t doubt you remember wondering what a cornucopia was as a kid, but you definitely didn’t wonder that while looking at a fruit of the loom logo. Because it didn’t have one. <br>You were looking at a different image.

I don’t doubt you remember wondering what a cornucopia was as a kid, but you definitely didn’t wonder that while looking at a fruit of the loom logo. Because it didn’t have one.
You were looking at a different image.

@Fritiof Clarin We need to see a photo of it! I checked my old tshirts that I was sure had the logo with the cornucopia on it and it's not there

yep it had one a long time ago, found my dads old tshirt and it has it

@J.J. McCullough hey your the guy from that one jreg video

@MikeMine2002 sometimes people have bad memories

the thing too is. Im puertorican. i DISTINCTLY remember the cornucopia being there.

I had never seen one, and (even on our thanksgiving) cornucopias arent a common sight/symbol in my culture. So the mandela effect transcends even language/culture.

@hitindahead I remember shazam but I think it was a part of another movie


My personal guess is we remember the cornucopia because it's featured in movies and media to avoid copyright infringement, kind of like how modern movies and baking shows aren't allowed to show products they're not sponsored by.<br>Nobody actively looks at the real-world logo, but the altered one gets shoved in our face, so it's not surprising if it became the dominant version in people's memory.

My personal guess is we remember the cornucopia because it's featured in movies and media to avoid copyright infringement, kind of like how modern movies and baking shows aren't allowed to show products they're not sponsored by.
Nobody actively looks at the real-world logo, but the altered one gets shoved in our face, so it's not surprising if it became the dominant version in people's memory.

@Dat Guy I guess the main question here is... If we (the common people) remember the cornucopia because of the media we see that's imitating the logo... Where did that media and their creators get the idea of a cornucopia from then? I guess my main thought would just be that a cornucopia just felt like a natural addition in an otherwise simple logo (in the sense that it's conceptually just a bunch of fruits. A cornucopia's something for a bunch of fruits, so it isn't the largest logical leap to associate those two things together, and eventually put them together into a mental image of a logo that's literally at least one of those things; A bunch of fruits in the Fruit of the loom logo). Because of that, it eventually was added in by at least one person from one of those pieces of media, it spread onto at least another person, creating a plague where people didn't bother to check and just bothered to believe that the cornucopia was there, until it was sealed into the common consciousness. From small scale "I just didn't bother to check the logo, it has a cornucopia, right?" to big scale "Holy shit I swear there was-".

Well that doesn't really hold up, as per the south park example he showed. That was a banana and a large purple fruit as minimalistic shapes for 1 scene in low quality. Them keeping the cornucopia shows that <b>thats</b> what makes the reference, that I a part of the original design. Not to mention how it, again, crops up in so many other places

Well that doesn't really hold up, as per the south park example he showed. That was a banana and a large purple fruit as minimalistic shapes for 1 scene in low quality. Them keeping the cornucopia shows that *thats* what makes the reference, that I a part of the original design. Not to mention how it, again, crops up in so many other places


There’s been lots of things like this that I noticed throughout my life and always wrote it off as rebranding. When I find out there’s absolutely zero history about the things I remember…. THAT’S when things get weird.

@Vito C in the UK they used to sell 'sour cream and chive' pringles. Now they sell 'sour cream and onion'. But so many of us are sure it was chive but there is no evidence. I have memory cos I hated onions and onion flavour crisp as a kid and the only oniony flavour thing I'd eat was sour cream n chive Pringles cos I was so young I didn't know chive was a type of onion and as long as I didn't have the word onion on it then I'd eat it.  I'm so confused lmao. Even on Amazon people still label these pringles as 'sour cream and chive' but it says onion lol

In the Philippines, there's a brand of mini-oreo style cookies called "Teenie Weenies" that were a popular snack for young kids, but was discontinued after a while. This became a sort of meme a few years ago when people looking for this nostalgic snack were shocked to find out that there seems to no pictures of it on the internet, and barely (if any) evidence that it ever existed.

There is no freakin way this wasn't real. Everyone remembers not just the actual snack, but the design of the plastic tray, the color of the packaging, and the fact that it had a picture of a cartoon hippo (and sometimes an alligator) munching on a cookie in the lower corner of the packaging.

In the Philippines, there's a brand of mini-oreo style cookies called "Teenie Weenies" that were a popular snack for young kids, but was discontinued after a while. This became a sort of meme a few years ago when people looking for this nostalgic snack were shocked to find out that there seems to *no pictures of it on the internet,* and barely (if any) evidence that it ever existed.

There is no freakin way this wasn't real. Everyone remembers not just the actual snack, but the design of the plastic tray, the color of the packaging, and the fact that it had a picture of a cartoon hippo (and sometimes an alligator) munching on a cookie in the lower corner of the packaging.

i agree. about 5 years ago, a musician named Melanie Martinez released a song called "Play Date" and it was always one of my favorite songs. when i listened to the song, i always thought one of the lyrics was "we're undressed, playing hide and seek". about a year ago, the song recently gained popularity again due to tiktok and the artist released a lyric video for it. in the video, the lyrics are "we're just playing hide and seek". when i saw that, i was so confused and looked at different lyric pages and never saw what i remembered. the only things that had the lyrics i remembered were a couple little tumblr posts from 5 years ago. it completely weirded me out that it seemed like only a couple people remembered the lyric this way.


Here's my theory...I grew up outside of the US, in India, and I do not remember the cornucopia being in the logo. However, when the illustration was shown with the cornucopia, it seemed like it should be there. It just fit. I think it may be because when you google cornucopia, you see multiple cliparts/illustrations/pictires of the cornucopia often with the same fruits in the logo and in the same arrangement. I'm guessing a lot of people recognise a cornucopia from storybooks/textbooks/autumn posters/illustrations of the sort. And because the arrangement, choice of fruits, and even art style is so similar to what you would see in almost any representation of a cornucopia, people automatically remember it being there in the logo as well. A cornucopia is a pretty niche object but it is one of those things that you unconsciously register because it's often included in mundane sources like the textbooks/pictures of autumn, etc mentioned above. Moroever, it's an object that's more prevalent in the western world, or at least we don't have them in India. So, because I was not familiar with the object growing up (the first time I even thought of the word was when I watched hunger games lol), I never remembered it in the logo even though I wore Fruit of the loom products growing up.


The weird thing is, I dont specifically remember seeing the logo with a cornucopia, but when I see the logo with a cornucopia it just looks correct. It doesnt look like something was added

Its trippy because the cornucopia logo in the video looks exactly like the logo I remember

@Sgt. Pepper wouldnt say it looks like its correct but it matches the style of the logo

unless you're a designer, then it looks like trash.

i guess thats because it was drawn in the same style

It's because your mind is using that drawing to fill in the blanks. Any recreation that he could have shown would have been exactly how you remember it. It doesn't help that the recreation is quite professionally done.

Same, you just see it, and it feels strangely right...

I remember thinking it had one as a kid and i noticed it didn't

That's how it started. Someone misremembered it as being there for whatever reason, and we all just went "oh yeah that looks normal" it must be true

Yeah, exact same situation with me. It does look much more pleasing and eye-catching with the cornucopia, I think, but I don't recall ever thinking the logo had one.

Same. I never gave much thought to the logo until the Mandela Effect became a thing, but when I first saw a video showing the two logos and asking "which is right?" I guessed the cornucopia. Also, for what it's worth, I asked my mom what the logo looked like (without telling her about the Mandela Effect beforehand) and she said it had a cornucopia s well.

I think the reason why we think it had one was because when we see the cornucopia logo, and it <b>subjectively</b> looks better than the actual logo, making our brain think the more appealing one is the real version.

I think the reason why we think it had one was because when we see the cornucopia logo, and it *subjectively* looks better than the actual logo, making our brain think the more appealing one is the real version.

That's how the "Mandella Effect" works. Most people don't misremember, but just don't remember it too detailed, and a person accidentally includes a faulty detail and it starts to spread, nobody bothers to check and it becomes too real memory for some people.

someone proved the company applied for a trademark extension and the document gives a very vivid description of the logo, and that includes the cornucopia. I think I saw it posted on reddit.  i think applied for in the 90's maybe...

I know it's like I don't remember it but if I see it in the image it just looks right but how was the cornucopia in the logo in the first place.

Most likely because your brain thinks the logo looks empty and incomplete with just the fruit there. With the Cornucopia added in it just makes the picture feel more complete and pleasant to look at.

Omg that’s the same I don’t remember it but it looks right


The fact that everyone envisions the cornucopia in the exact same place makes me feel like there’s a different logo/image that everyone is thinking of


"Fruit of the loom is a confusing name. I see the fruit, so the thanksgiving cone must really be called a loom." - exact thought process of me and a lot of other people during childhood.

@John R What else could it be? No evidence of anything else

And yet according to all the folks in the comments, just mass false memories


I’m Swedish and I distinctly remember believing a “loom” was a cornucopia until I watched the hunger games, based on the tag in my Green Day t-shirt with the text “fruit of the loom”. The logo is very distinctly different from how most logos look here in Sweden so it stuck out to me, because it was on all of the band shirts, and the cotton was particularly scratchy


Honestly, I can't remember whether or not there was a cornucopia in the logo or not. I didn't grow up with this brand of underwear, but I definitely remember seeing the logo in Walmart. I think, like Emp said, it was such a small and mundane detail that I never really sat down and studied the logo. Part of me says that there was cornucopia and another part says otherwise.  I'm also wondering if seeing this video implanted the idea of the cornucopia in my head. A case of false memories being formed simply by being introduced to this new idea about a minute detail that I didn't care about.


I distinctly remember NOT seeing the cornucopia as a kid, but looking at the logo with it added in, it just feels like it's suppose to be there.

I distinctly REMEMBER the cornucopia, only brand of britches I wore as a kid. Nobody can convince that it wasn’t there. Clearly somethings going on, reality is fleeting no average person knows how  this shit works.

And there is such an obvious effort of debunking these occurrences, that there has to be something to it more that “what, are you conspiracy theorists”…
GTFO W/that mess man

Yea how can someone misremember something that wasn’t there that’s like you design a logo that never existed but everyone says it existed??

For me personally, the cornucopia looks like how I “remember” it but I also recall seeing the cornucopia on school lunch menus in November or on calendars. I think something about the shape and placement of the fruits triggers certain memories of seeing Thanksgiving logos and clipart.

I remember the first I saw the logo back in 1997. I was pretty "old" at the time (16) and thought it was a new clothing brand. To make things short: it had a cornucopia, and since english is not my native language I thought that said cornucopia was a "loom".

My abnormal growth on my testies twitched at the sight of this comment

I vividly remember seeing it on my underwear when I was little. I didn't know what the cornucopia was and jokingly assumed that the cornucopia was the "loom" where the fruit came from. I remember learning about Thanksgiving and associating the brand with it after reading what the cornucopia was. What's so weird is that there are a number of references to it that are left over. Even books have described the logo with the cornucopia. What changed?

The cornucopia version looks just better

Same I think it looks so convincing that it makes people think it was there

you are from this reality and those who remember the cornucopia, have jumped to your parallel world

Most people probably saw the fake logo and it just looked right so they get the thought that thats the way it always was<br>But theres a lot of evidence to show people have remembered it that way anyway which is so crazy to me

Most people probably saw the fake logo and it just looked right so they get the thought that thats the way it always was
But theres a lot of evidence to show people have remembered it that way anyway which is so crazy to me

The logo feels so unbalanced without it.


Also, it was the grape leaves for me. I remember the point (couldn’t give you an exact time, I just remember making note of it as a child) that I noticed that I had fruit of the loom tags which were different. They had changed the grape leaves from brown to green. At this point I noticed that what I had always just assumed was a cornucopia because I had never paid enough attention was actually leaves. Maybe this was it for a lot of people. Maybe children asked their parents what the brown on their tag was because we are trained as a society to not realize that grapes have such big ugly leaves and their parents couldn’t be assed to answer such an inane question so just answered with what made the most sense to them. It’s a cornucopia! Maybe they were deluded such as myself when they made these claims. We may never know. What it really does is makes us painfully aware of how fragile our consciousness is, even as a species


Honestly the way I see it is that Thanksgiving is an extremely forefront time of the year to most North Americans and with that the imagery of a cornucopia is extremely common every single year leading up to fall. I think people may have mistakingly taken the image of fruit pilled up as being something familiar to cornucopia imagery nearing Thanksgiving and confused the two.

I myself don't remember a cornucopia being on the logo at all and I pretty much only owned fruit of the loom undershirts and underwear up until I was out of highschool and I very much remember it just being a pile of fruit, no cornucopia. Although I can agree with people who say that it does look very nice with one added in and I wouldn't mind if the logo was changed to that.

@Chloé oh right. Hmmm so strange isnt it, must just be some kind of error in the brain.

@immune18First if you watch the video it disputes why thanksgiving wouldn't really make sense, and there are a lot of people from other countries who remember it. Still does not explain it

I’ve looked into this a lot as it fascinates me, and I think you’re right. I’ve asked a lot of older people from the U.K. and they’ve all said they don’t remember a cornucopia at all, they described it as just fruit.  it seems to be an exclusively American thing, and the thanksgiving adverts and logos often have the cornucopia on.

So much of this thread is Americans thinking they're the centre of the world. I'm European and for years never even had the concept of Thanksgiving to misremember the logo, let alone even know what a cornucopia was

There are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association

@Jurij Fedorov try and find a single person who knows the second most popular clothing brand in Europe from their daily life?

Yeah I'll take that challenge.

@Communist Shoplifting Try to find a single person who knows about this company outside USA. Not from the internet, but from their daily life.

@Jurij Fedorov 32,000 employees worldwide, estimated value at over $3.5 billion, sold in every major market on earth and most countries, considered to be one of the best selling clothing companies on the entire earth.

>small company
>no one outside the USA knows this company

@Communist Shoplifting They are maybe sold in a few stores in other countries. But no one knows the brand outside USA. We have thousands of brands and no one cares about this small brand or what their logo looks like.

@Jurij Fedorov it's a global company that was based in America but their clothes are sold worldwide and have been for over half a century.

@Communist Shoplifting It's an American company so it's hard to find this being popular outside USA. In my country it doesn't exist.

Yes and I’m saying it wasn’t trying to explain everything, there is no one answer to why hundreds of people may misremember something, the explanation tries to answer as best it can but it isn’t applicable to every single person.

@UncomfortablyClose like I said, I'm sure it explain some of it but it's a very us-centric theory on a global brand with people remembering the same thing all over the world. That's why it's interesting, these single country explanations don't actually fit it very well. Otherwise I daresay this theory would solve 90% of it.

I'm saying this likely explains some of it but the reason this "Mandela effect" thing is more interesting than others is because its not confined to one place where a dominant cultural image (like thanksgiving) can explain it. There's a reason for example, the Shazam thing is only restricted to the US. Shaq wasn't well known in Europe and people who do remember the movie in that area remember wondering who the hell Shaq was more than the movie itself- for example.

I don’t think it’s trying to be a one size fits all explanation it’s just trying to be an explanation, and I’d say it’s a pretty good one. Not everyone is American but I think it’s a good explanation for some of those who are. It doesn’t have to be the answer for every single person.

@UncomfortablyClose maybe some but it's honestly so common that I think the thanksgiving explanation is slightly reductive.

Kind of like the "big foot is just bears walking on their hind legs, look at this video from a zoo!" and like sure that might explain some but bears doing that in the wild is quite rare and so on. I don't believe in bigfoot at all in just using that example. It's a one size fits all explanation that kind of doesn't fit enough to be useful?

It's definitely some of it though, that I'm sure of.

It explains a large portion of it though, obviously it’s not going to be the reason for everyone but it likely is for a few. At the end of the day it’s a brain and it’s impossible to know exactly what specifically malfunctioned for so many people to misremember it but it isn’t like it’s unprecedented. Honestly if it was at all related to parallel universes it would be the least convincing proof of parallel universes there is.

Doesn't explain it. People from outside the USA who don't celebrate thanksgiving at all remember it. Its not unique to a single country or even culture that's why its interesting.

I'm guessing it's some contextual brain fogging type thing where young children mix up "fruit of the loom" with the very common idiom "fruits of the harvest". And obviously fruits of the harvest conjure strong cornucopia vibes. I can definitely see young people that don't know what "loom" means yet making that error, then growing up and swearing the underwear has an inexplicable autumn/harvest vibe.

Yeah I also don’t particularly remember the logo with a cornucopia but it does give off cornucopia vibes


It's funny, I always thought it was weird that the logo DIDN'T have a cornucopia, because why would you just have a bunch of fruit hanging free as a logo for underwear? It's supposed to carry your family fruit lmao!


I grew up about 30 minutes away from a fruit of the loom factory that employed a vast number of people when there was no other work available and it was a total outrage when they shipped production abroad a number of years ago.

As a kid I remember distinctly hearing the word "cornucopia" several times in relation to that logo. I've never seen a cornucopia anywhere but on the logo.


Isn’t it crazy how the recreations of the cornucopia are drawn exactly how we remember it...exactly like we never saw it.

It's crazy how easy our human brains tend to fill in the gaps in reality.... Sometimes it's hard to suspend disbelief until you really take in the idea that the human brain simply is way too unreliable at remembering things, but it's very good at being creative even without you deliberately trying to do so.

@GeoneIt would be different for different people. I didn't even know what a cornucopia was before I heard about this a long time ago and still remembered the same image

I remember saying that that was the loom for the fruit because I didn’t know what it was at the time

The internet has made it abundantly obvious that we all keep switching to different timelines and mass scale communication has allowed us to catch the indescrepencies between each universe each time it happens, this wouldn't have been possible before

@Beep Boop I’m A Robot and the same could be said about yourself?

@lasarousi dude look at you. Watch some crazy shit have happened in 2012 with CERN and in the future we figure it out. Also could be quantum immortality.

@FAB1150 People's minds work more similarly than you're giving credit for. Humans misremember in patterns.

I was thinking the same thing that looks exactly the way I remember it

Isn't this very adequately and simply explained, by people seeing OTHER images—with the same motif to the FotL-logo—featuring a fucking corn-dog?

Sometimes I really wonder about people who are talking on comments, because I noticed there's a divide between people, one group of people seem unmovable in this idea that everybody's wrong and it's all a fallacy and your brain is wrong, and it's imagination, and another group of people where they saw the logo they had experiences with the logo and their normal human beings, the way some people talk doesn't seem correct have you ever noticed that read the comments in this chat and just look at the way some people talk doesn't it sound almost planned out like it's programmed into those people?? 😂😘💕

Instantly when the video started I saw the logo and was like. Yeah it’s missing the cornucopia.

That's not actually how you remembered it. You remembered "there is supposed to be a cornucopia." Then someone showed it to you and your mind retroactively updated itself to imagine THAT cornucopia.

@Ventriloquist Magician I remember the cornucopia on the left side of the fruit.

@Medroff Take a hit, buddy!
We're trying to help you! If you admit you saw it like the rest of us do remember it then they'll come after you!

@Medroff Take a hit, buddy!
We're trying to help you! If you admit you saw it like the rest of us do remember it then _they'll_ come after you!

@FAB1150 this proves his point, those people you talk to assume that fruit of the loom in and of itself implies the existence of a cornucopia in peoples minds, it's ubiquitous in our cultural awareness and perception to do with fruit and logos, imo. Only 3 possibilities likely exist, they changed the logo but no one has one as proof, or knockoff companies made one with that logo but no one can provide one as proof, or everyone just wants the logo to have the basket cause in our minds thats what makes the most sense, but it doesnt and never has.

Not me, i remember it coming from the left. And sometimes i think of a basket instead

@Beep Boop I’m A Robot that's actually a great comment and in no way an insult, don't worry.

I'm aware of that and I never mention anything about the logo on purpose. My conversation usually goes like this:
"Do you remember fruit of the loom, that brand you find on promotional or street fair t-shirts?"
"Oh yeah / no I don't"
(If it's a yes) "can you tell me what logo you remember? Describe it to me"
"It's a bunch of fruit on a weird wicker basket / a cornucopia / a brown thing in the background" (actual answers I got, obviously translated from Italian)

If they mention a basket or similar container I asked the shape of it. No descriptive terms ever got out of my mouth. It's (almost) always a cornucopia, but there's always a wicker container.

That's the weird thing, that everyone remembers at least a wicker container, even if it strictly isn't a cornucopia, without me mentioning one beforehand (since that could actually put it in their memories). When I show the actual logo, people always are at least in the "huh, weird" mood.
If it was just me and a few people on the internet... Well, that would be just our memories playing with us.

With every other weird "oh do you remember it like this?" there's at least somebody I find who remembers it correctly, and some variation between how the people remembers the incorrect thing. Not with this. Every single person has the same recollection of the logo.

@Beep Boop I’m A Robot that's actually a great comment and in no way an insult, don't worry.

I'm aware of that and I never mention anything about the logo on purpose. My conversation usually goes like this:
"Do you remember fruit of the loom, that brand you find on promotional or street fair t-shirts?"
"Oh yeah / no I don't"
(If it's a yes) "can you tell me what logo you remember? Describe it to me"
"It's a bunch of fruit on a weird wicker basket / a cornucopia / a brown thing in the background" (actual answers I got, obviously translated from Italian)

If they mention a basket or similar container I asked the shape of it. No descriptive terms ever got out of my mouth. It's (almost) always a cornucopia, but there's always a wicker container.

That's the weird thing, that _everyone_ remembers at least a wicker container, even if it strictly isn't a cornucopia, without me mentioning one beforehand (since that could actually put it in their memories). When I show the actual logo, people always are at least in the "huh, weird" mood.
If it was just me and a few people on the internet... Well, that would be just our memories playing with us.

With every other weird "oh do you remember it like this?" there's at least somebody I find who remembers it correctly, and some variation between how the people remembers the incorrect thing. Not with this. Every single person has the same recollection of the logo.

@FAB1150 I’m late to the party, I know. Here are my two cents. No offense, I don’t mean to insult you, but from your comments here, it seems like you’ve spend a fair amount of time reading into this. You want to believe in the case you’re making. The problem with this is that you’re not a neutral observer, you can’t have a sober conversation with people and ask them about it if you already expect a specific outcome.

This happens all the time, even to the best experimenters. They expect a specific outcome and thus influence the conversation or convince themselves that the answers they receive support their hypothesis. Which is why double-blind trials were invented. :)

It’s truly unsettling how - in this case too - we cannot trust our brains to know truth from a mental image we have. It will make sure to paint colorful, lively pictures into our head whenever it serves to purpose of having a cohesive memory. And cohesive memories are memories that keep our perception of the present intact. Your perception right now is that you’re right. That >>could<< literally be all it takes.

Yup it looks exactly as I remember it as a 2000s kid

@D4NOMAUS FPS yet literally everyone I asked remembers one, without knowing this story beforehand.

@FAB1150 it's never had a cornucopia in the logo in the UK, just the apple, the grapes and the leaves

@Ventriloquist Magician Because there never was one.

@Ventriloquist Magician Because there never was one.

@nano 123 then you didn't pay attention to the video

@nano 123 then you didn't pay attention to the video

It's because your mind is using that drawing to fill in the blanks. Any recreation that he could have shown would have been exactly how you remember it.

@lasarousi They don’t have knock of fruit of the loom at Walmart.

@Medroff are you really not considering how your mom could have bought a knock off?

And the knock off had the cornucopia.

@Devin Giltner i don't think that's it, as quite literally everyone I can ask to (without showing the images beforehand to not skew results) remembers the cornucopia, in the same style that's drawn there.
And it comes from people that live literally all around the world, for example I'm in Italy. Fruit of the loom here was never a standalone brand, but that brand you'd find on the printed t-shirts on a town festival, it was never publicized or sold anything in stores. People here have only seen the logo briefly and never looked at it for long, probably just to cut the tag off as it's itchy. It's not a logo that's so generalized that you start to mix your memories with other similar stuff... so for everyone to remember the logo with a cornucopia is very weird. It's a bit like measurements. You get one measurement that's 0.08" too short? Well, that could easily be an error in the measuring instrument, or a mistake on your part. But if you repeat the measurement multiple times, with different instruments and different people, a d they all come out 0.08" too short... That's less likely to me an anomaly.

@Devin Giltner i don't think that's it, as quite literally everyone I can ask to (without showing the images beforehand to not skew results) remembers the cornucopia, in the same style that's drawn there.
And it comes from people that live literally all around the world, for example I'm in Italy. Fruit of the loom here was never a standalone brand, but that brand you'd find on the printed t-shirts on a town festival, it was never publicized or sold anything in stores. People here have only seen the logo briefly and never looked at it for long, probably just to cut the tag off as it's itchy. It's not a logo that's so generalized that you start to mix your memories with other similar stuff... so for _everyone_ to remember the logo with a cornucopia is very weird. It's a bit like measurements. You get one measurement that's 0.08" too short? Well, that could easily be an error in the measuring instrument, or a mistake on your part. But if you repeat the measurement multiple times, with different instruments and different people, a d they all come out 0.08" too short... That's less likely to me an anomaly.

@Medroff you remember something wrong, that's part of the human condition. it's normal.

Either you remember it wrong

or they changed the tag and there's some elaborate explanation on why it 'changed' without any record or actual solid evidence.

so you misremember it.

@wheedler damn I can’t believe people can be so adamant about something but have no context or even any knowledge about it. I’m typing about you btw.

@Ventriloquist Magician this was like 13 years ago in the 4th grade. She got me new clothes for school that’s when I saw it.

@Medroff I have to agree with the ventriloquist magician, you definitely asked a teacher, not your mom.

@Medroff I think you mistook it for a cornucopia. You probably saw one before, like in class, but your mom wasn't around to be asked. Then you saw the logo

Goddamn I remember telling my mom what’s that thing behind the fruit on the tag of my shirt. I think things were changed.


The real question is: why does Fruit of the Loom devote so much effort to censoring the truth of their old logo?


This is definitely a case of conflating 2 logos in our collective memory, and I just wish I could figure out what actually had the cornucopia as part of the logo

@Newbuild Muse lmao imagine actually believing that 🤣

No, this is evidence that CERN did do something.

Every logo existing with a cornucopia i can find doesn't make sense. I've never heard of any of the people or companies that use a cornucopia


It’s pretty common for media without product placement to tweak a logo in order to allude to the thing (Pear instead of Apple etc.). The cornucopia looks really good behind the fruit, so my guess is somebody threw it in on whatever project to make a recognizable pseudo-brand. Since it looked so nice, other people who wanted to reference Fruit of the Loom made the same addition and it became standardized with time. You probably see this media variant more or less as often as the original now, so it no longer registers as a parody.

There’s probably an obscure patient zero for this buried in decades of archives but it isn’t very searchable.


i vividly remember the cornucopia being on the logo. i had only seen the fruit of the loom logo a few times on custom t-shirts from various activities i did as a child but i swear there was a cornucopia. i’m british, so i never encountered any other fruit of the loom products nor had seen the logo anywhere but those t-shirts. i feel like cornucopias are a mostly american thing as well and i had no idea it was called a cornucopia until last year when i found out about this mandela effect. i’m literally so confused since the logo is the only place i had ever even “seen” a cornucopia before


That paid promotion was low key super creative

@Charlie Benham low key is basically an adverb now

@L Train 45 yeah because company bad money bad right?


For some reason, after rewatching this video and seeing the logo with the cornucopia, something about it felt familiar to me. Comfortable, even. I thought it was probably because I've seen this video before, but for some reason after rewatching it, now I'm getting the feeling that I've seen this version of the logo way before that, like as a kid.

What's weird is before watching this video, I didn't even remember having any memories the Fruit of the Loom logo without it. Either rewatching this video somehow triggered some Mandela affect-type memories within me for some reason, as in those false memories were always in my mind and I guess I maybe wasn't paying that much attention to the video so that's why I didn't feel that way before, or what happened was the thing where false memories are planted into your brain (I don't know what that's called, but I do know that's a thing).

Time is an infinitely looping multiversal simulation and your current consciousness can sometimes unhinge itself from this "timeline" and "swap" or even "merge" with another you. Deja Vu is your awareness of this fact, usually in the form of nostalgia. Ideally you should feel comfort but when you are hyper aware of the truth of time that nostalgia is replaced with dread causing a phenonmena known as Deja Vecu.


Adding the cornucopia to fruit is exactly the same as adding a monocle to a top hat -<br>They collocate perfectly!!

Adding the cornucopia to fruit is exactly the same as adding a monocle to a top hat -
They collocate perfectly!!


What people don’t realize is that your memories can be changed just in a whim. If you think you misremembered something and you change it to something else you believe that to be the actual memory but it could’ve been something completely different and like emp said we use multiple memories to construct one and the same with words which why we sometimes mistake certain words that look similar for one or the other. Reality is really just in your head and you can change it to be anything you want


I think it's perfectly in line with the Monopoly example.

The way the fruits are arranged is typical for an arrangement that would also have a cornucopia behind them. And since a cornucopia with fruits coming out of it is such a common image, it's natural for people to associate it with an image of fruit by themselves. Cornucopia arrangements aren't limited to warm colors, and pumpkins aren't always featured. Grapes are an even more common element in cornucopia pictures, and aside from the apple, the rest of the Fruit of the Loom logo is comprised of grapes and grape leaves.

People having specific memories about it are probably mistaken about those memories as well. They learned about the cornucopia from the common thanksgiving image, and mentally conflated that image with the logo which they also misremembered as having a cornucopia. Likewise with the people who thought it was called a loom. Because they mistakenly remembered the cornucopia being in the logo, they also assumed that the cornucopia was called a loom.

no, I exactly remember that I thought the thing was called 'loom', because of this logo.

There are a lot of foreigners who remember the cornucopia who do not celebrate thanksgiving, also people thinking the cornucopia was called a "loom", if it was never there why would they make the association

This! "Isn't this very adequately and simply explained, by people seeing OTHER images—with the same motif as the FotL-logo—featuring a fucking corn-dog?"

That doesn't really account for the people who only learnt what a cornucopia is from seeing the logo and inquiring about it. Or who thought it was a fruit or something instead until finding out what a cornucopia is from learning about the Mandela Effect.

Naturalistic explanations are all fine and well with most phenomena, but they don't explain everything. I can tell you that as ignorant and as neglected of a child that I was growing up that I had no notion of where food came from. I had the image of a ranch for animal products but for the longest I thought produce came from stores. Eventually farming was explained to me, making me feel really stupid.

I didn't know what a cornucopia was nor did  I know what "that basket thing" was used for nor that it was called a cornucopia, and I do remember asking about it when I was really little until I was told it was some sort of basket.

I've experienced tons of Mandela effects before even being told about this general idea that explains these phenomena.

Believe what you want but I assure you that people really have experienced some of these things. Indeed some times things might be corrected by the brain after pattern recognition has been made but small children haven't been exposed to enough to have an easy subconscious association to ignore a proper focus onto such things, I was always focusing very hard on the examples I clearly remember which aren't easily explained and asking questions about them like I was for everything.

But my overwhelmed single mother almost always was too preoccupied so I just would keep visually experiencing day to day things without words or listening to things that almost everybody's heard which generally are heard about the same way or divides into two general camps of memory.

Anyway keep an open yet critical mind, study hard and think for yourself. Peace!

Yes thats what im thinking too! Growing up in europe, cornucopia connects to greek history and making wine out of grapes in my mind. It absolutely fits the image in my head just like the monopoly man


You can officially make anything interesting

Haha no fucking way dude. I just found this channel and I'm obsessed lmao. Man to think I was missing out over the year(s)!

Which Fossil did you pick, Mah-Dry-Bread?

Love your videos man! It's nice to see a content creator like you watches Emplemon's videos :D

But i want Lightning McQueer and the quest for tires 2

dude your oblivion challenges are hilarious, thanks for making them. so cool to see people still breathing life into that ancient, crooked, bloomfilled, glorious mess

Yo, I just watched your recent video, how you doin?

fruit of the loom is good for the youtube algorithm

Ey saw you in the comments yesterday on a gamers from mars video I think.

The cornucopia in the logo is not actually a cornucopia at all. It's a Helix Fossil.

That's why premises are completely irrelevant to whether a work of fiction is good or not, even though most people will attribute a lot of weight to the premise when discussing why they like something or when deciding whether they should check something out.

Ay!! Cool to see you here<br>Keep up the good work with those pokemon challenges!

Ay!! Cool to see you here
Keep up the good work with those pokemon challenges!

Interesting this giving interest of interest


This one genuinely made me question my existence. I don’t know why I would imagine such a specific thing. I was introduced to this one as a verbal question, so it couldn’t have been confirmation bias.

But even weirder, why do we ALL remember it. We all remember it in the same place. We also all recognize the drawing shown in the thumbnail as THE  drawing. So weird.


Theorization: The Cornucopia is likely there due to the mental affiliation of it typically being filled with fruit in a pooling out way, which may effect memory as result in some way.


I think the Simpsons is actually the reason for a large part of this phenomenon. They constantly misquote/misrepresent Pop cultural references only slightly and therefore make adolescents believe that was a direct quote instead of a paraphrase.


There's definitely a cultural element here. I'm from the UK, I grew up with school uniforms that had fruit of the loom labels, but I've never imagined the cornucopia. Possibly since its association with harvest and Thanksgiving weren't a part of my culture. I'm not sure I even knew what one was until I was a teen. Also played Monopoly a lot as a kid, but we don't have Mr Peanut here either, and I never imagined the monacle on Mr Monopoly.

I grew up in the UK and had lots of sportswear for sports day and school that had the logo, but I still feel like I remember the cornucopia

same here..old HS uniforms made by them but defo no memory of cornocopia/horn


They should honestly add the cornucopia, it looks better with it

@Joshua M But the thing is, Pepsi has changed it's logo

they should add it but in reverse to annoy people

I have my old undies still from fruit of the loom it has a cornucopia

The cornucopia looks like absolute shit in emp's mock up.

they should just make like 600 underwear with cornucopias mixed in and say nothing about it

This is exactly why people think that there's a cornucopia in it

Sorry if that came out weird I'm really stoned

I was going to say if we are wrong and it never existed then I guess are crazy imaginations are better designers then the fruit of the loom people

@Dan Loeb that doesn't account for all the people who didn't even know what a cornucopia was, had never seen them anywhere else, and thought it was some type of squash, or a weird tree branch thing

@Dzhikhad why not its somehow more recognizable

Agreed, and it would screw with people even more, which would be awesome and give them way more brand awareness.

@A Mad Hollow yes and, that has nothing do with this, just bring up science stuff doesn't prove your stupid conspiracy theory, it just proves you were drop as child

@A Isopod do you not understand how the super large hadron collider works?

That's why our brains are inserting it.<br>Fruits spilling from a cornucopia is such an ancient image.

That's why our brains are inserting it.
Fruits spilling from a cornucopia is such an ancient image.

@A Mad Hollow but it didn't, do you need watch the video again?

@Joshua M Pepsi has changed their logo a few times

@rafael Perez ok Alex Jones, whatever you say am not auguring with you

@A Isopod yes we did, and yes it did.

You should read the comment I posted here somewhere

@rafael Perez no it didn't have cornucopia, did we watch same video?

@Dzhikhad BUT  it would become more popular & make the brand logo legendary, the only brand to change to the mandela. For the meme.

It did have a cornucopia. This timeline’s logo is different.

@Dzhikhad I think you missed all the redesigns in the video.

they already did in the universe I'm from...

The fact it looks better with it is exactly why everyone remembers it with it.  The layout looks exactly like a cornucopia of fruit spilling out, so out brains form the connection when recalling.

@Dzhikhad why not? Companies change logos all the time and it'd be a nice nod to this phenomenon

No it doesn't it looks like a pile of shit behind some fruit

@Dzhikhad why not that would be like saying Pepsi wouldn't change the logo just because they've been using it for so long and honestly with how prevalent means the internet culture is with corporate life nowadays I could totally see this happening

Well, I don't think they're going to add a cornucopia after 170 years just because it would look better.


i have various band shirts that have shirts branded with fruit of the loom. when i started watching the video i was fully confident there was no cornucopia but as the video went on my confidence dwindled and it looked far more familiar with the cornucopia. i had to go out and find all of them just to see whether or not the cornucopia was there which it wasn't. also note that i'm not american. i had never seen the logo nor heard of the brand until i got the first of the shirts in maybe july or august of this year when they were shipped here so i've had little to no experience with observing the brand. its messing with my mind just a bit


Regarding the Jif and Skippy thing , there’s a brand of stove top popcorn called jiffy pop


I was on board for the explanation of the Mandela effect as being largely due to retrospective reconstruction of memories. You lost me when you put a cornucopia filled with fruit and a logo of a pile of fruit which people mistakenly remember as having a cornucopia and went "these things are irreconcilable".<br>People don't mistakenly remember other piles of fruit as having cornucopias because they aren't inked and colored in a way that looks extremely reminiscent of default Microsoft thanksgiving clipart. It also probably helps that a fruit on a juice box is a thing you eat and not a decorative metaphor.

I was on board for the explanation of the Mandela effect as being largely due to retrospective reconstruction of memories. You lost me when you put a cornucopia filled with fruit and a logo of a pile of fruit which people mistakenly remember as having a cornucopia and went "these things are irreconcilable".
People don't mistakenly remember other piles of fruit as having cornucopias because they aren't inked and colored in a way that looks extremely reminiscent of default Microsoft thanksgiving clipart. It also probably helps that a fruit on a juice box is a thing you eat and not a decorative metaphor.


I full on know there wasn’t a cornucopia on any of the fruit of the loom t shirts I’ve worn, but it probably just looks so perfect for everyone’s brain that I feel as if our brain just fills in the blank for all of us just because it fits so much in with the logo