It's weird... after the first time I watched this, I inquired about the Fruit of the Loom logo to my dad while visiting him. Figured since he was born in the early 60's, that he was old enough to give an interesting response, and he doesn't use the internet so his recollection wouldn't be tainted by people discussing the phenomenon. I did my best to not prime his mind, and to let his recollection be his own. He, too, recalled the cornucopia, but here's the kicker: "cornucopia" wasn't a term he was very familiar with. When I talked to him about it, I had to explain to him what a cornucopia was. The term he himself had used for the object was "Loom", as in "Yeah, [that brown basket thing is] the Loom", which makes me wonder if there was some prominent TV show or movie in the past that made a joke about the "Loom" in Fruit of the Loom being a cornucopia or basket. And from there, the thought jumped culturally from person to person until it had infected everyone's mind with the idea. A "meme' in the literal sense. I can almost see the scene and hear the dialogue in my mind, it feels like a natural joke to make. I dunno.

It's weird... after the first time I watched this, I inquired about the _Fruit of the Loom_ logo to my dad while visiting him. Figured since he was born in the early 60's, that he was old enough to give an interesting response, and he doesn't use the internet so his recollection wouldn't be tainted by people discussing the phenomenon. I did my best to not prime his mind, and to let his recollection be his own. He, too, recalled the cornucopia, but here's the kicker: "cornucopia" wasn't a term he was very familiar with. When I talked to him about it, I had to explain to him what a cornucopia was. The term he himself had used for the object was "Loom", as in "Yeah, [that brown basket thing is] the Loom", which makes me wonder if there was some prominent TV show or movie in the past that made a joke about the "Loom" in _Fruit of the Loom_ being a cornucopia or basket. And from there, the thought jumped culturally from person to person until it had infected everyone's mind with the idea. A "meme' in the literal sense. I can almost see the scene and hear the dialogue in my mind, it feels like a natural joke to make. I dunno.

I think it’s because so many of us thought a “loom” was a cornucopia.

I also distinctly remember thinking the cornucopia was a loom as a kid.

I only knew what a cornucopia was from the fruit of the loom logo when I was little

@SevenFoot Pelican Wild! I wonder where my dad got the idea from? I don't think he particularly wore many Fruit of the Loom products, but he's certainly owned his fair share. Perhaps that's why my dad misremembered the logo and your didn't.

I also wonder if the phenomenon is do to people conflating their memories of Thanksgiving Day decorations incorporating cornucopias with the Fruit of the Loom logo? Simply replacing one pile of edible plants with another?

@SevenFoot Pelican Wild! I wonder where my dad got the idea from? I don't think he particularly wore many _Fruit of the Loom_ products, but he's certainly owned his fair share. Perhaps that's why my dad misremembered the logo and your didn't.

I also wonder if the phenomenon is do to people conflating their memories of Thanksgiving Day decorations incorporating cornucopias with the _Fruit of the Loom_ logo? Simply replacing one pile of edible plants with another?

Kurt, my dad had many Fruit of the Loom undershirts and underwear in the 80's and 90's... I just asked my dad fully expecting him to also have remembered it being there. He said he didn't remember it being there! But then I showed him the actual logo and he said he didn't remember it looking like that either - then he said it's possible, but that he doesn't pay attention to small things like that... but I just feel like he must have if even I did. Such a mystery

I like how the comment started off unbiased and just from the father's opinion who's very old and doesn't use internet.... Then starts talking about a bunch of personal opinions that make no sense, does she not believe her father, because it was there!!!

@Chemikalz I remember from playing the games that it states that markings on the tail are gender markers (also probably depending on the game, I haven't played a pokemon game since diamond and pearl) and I think I remember it saying that female pikachus had an indented black mark on the tail. The show's main pikachu howerver doesn't have any markings on the tail. Even looking at pictures of the show, other pikachus have subtle differences on their tails, including black marks. This instance seems like it came out of being pedantic about THE Pikachu rather than overall 'population'.

@PTREK BOX BREAKS not at all weird, if only you 1. read my comment above, and 2. use your brain

@C L why would a music album from the 70s, a movie from the 90s, and show from the 2000s all depict the logo with a cornucopia in it? Weird huh?

@Chemikalz no no. Pikachu definitely had black tail tip

Isn't this very adequately and simply explained, by people seeing OTHER images—with the same motif to the FotL-logo—featuring a fucking corn-dog?

@Chemikalz I had a pickachu plushie with the black in it's tail in the late 90s.

@Rip Roarin' but there was! I don't know why I remember it but I do! TBH Mandela effect is when a bunch of people agree that reality is stupid

i grew up thinking that brown thing was a loom too.

@Rip Roarin' Bro, the Mandela Effect usually doesn't affect me, like I know for a fact Pikachu never had black on the tip of his tail, but the cornucopia is definitely vivid in my mind. But even while I was watching this video, my mind began to question itself, wondering if I ever had thought there was one there to begin with, or I if I just THOUGHT I thought there was one there... 🤔

@Kurt Yarish I actually just recently learned what a cornucopia is, and I still remember the cornucopia even though I had never heard of one before. Also, the drawing of the cornucopia is the exact same version everyone else remembers. Weird, isn't it?

@Eliel Solares I think that's a reasonable hypothesis. For reference, a loom is a large device that weaves yarn together into a fabric. "Fruit of the Loom" is a reference to how their product is produced using looms. "- is the fruit of -" is an archaic English saying for "this one thing is derived from another", in reference to fruit being from trees. In other words the company's products are "fruit of the loom".

Even though a loom (or modern versions of such) are vital products to modern society, they are rarely encountered by day to day people. It's not too surprising for even a native speaker to be unaware of what a "loom" is, exactly.

On another note, I know exactly what you mean by fruit being displayed in a bowl-like glass container, because that is also a somewhat common way of displaying fruit in the US. Though you will usually see fake plastic fruit (for decorative purposes), rather than real ones. Using a real cornucopia to display produce isn't common at all except for maybe on Thanksgiving or similar holidays during the Fall season. Even then, you usually see it in pictures or art rather than an actual, physical one. I imagine it was more common many decades ago, but probably not for nearly a century. Which still begs the question: "Why did their minds go to a cornucopia, rather than a glass bowl or plate like you described?"

If it interests you, i'm a native spanish speaker and even though most of the media that i watch is in english i have no idea what a Loom is
And i never paid much attention to the logo but whenever i read "fruit of the loom" first thing to pop in my head was the fruits not in a cornucopia but in a kind of glass bowl (more like a plate than a bowl idk how to explain it) because that's how generally my mother displays the fruit on the table

So maybe people that remembers the cornucopia didn't know what a loom is either and their brain just went to how fruit was displayed in their home


As someone that saw curious george for a good half of my childhood, when I heard people thought he had a tail it really messed with my mind because I remember george using his feet hands to climb and hang upside down but the thought of him having a tail just makes so much sense 😂


I am Italian and was born in the 2000s so I never really knew Fruit of the Loom because it wasn’t popular during my childhood, but once for a school play I had to buy a plain orange t-shirt and my dad (who’s from the 70s) suggested we bought a Fruit of the Loom one from Amazon. I vividly remember seeing the cornucopia on the label, although I didn’t know what it was and thought it was a willow basket. I think that this shows how I was not influenced from the reality to resemble the cornucopia with the logo, because I didn’t know what thanksgiving was nor did I ever see it on the TV because it’s really not a thing in Italy. Craziest part is that both me and my mom remember not giving this shirt away (even though I bought it when I was 11, I still have a lot of shirts from my childhood and they still fit me, so I don’t get why I should have thrown it) but, looking in my drawers and closet I can’t find it. It still leaves me shocked to this day. I don’t think this “mystery” will ever be solved, but we’ll se…


This is actually scary I SWEAR it’s always been there, I havnt worn fruit of the loom clothes since 4th grade but i swear it was there


The weirdest thing about the Mandela effect  to me is my lack of being able to visualize what I am trying to recall, for example I remember pikachu’s tail having a black mark but I can never draw or have seen an image that looks right with the black mark, and the cornucopia I remember but the one in the image looks wierd and I can’t think of where it should go to make it look right.


Who drew that exact image of the cornucopia? EVERYBODY seems to remember exactly that drawing so we only need to find whoever drew that

Who drew that exact image of the cornucopia? EVERYBODY seems to remember exactly that drawing so we only need to find whoever drew that

@Sam Browne that's beside the point. It's not about recognizing where every individual piece of fruit is, it's about knowing that the logo was a bunch of fruit in a cornucopia.

For everyone saying that's definitely exactly how it looked because they remember all the detail... pick another logo that you've come across roughly as much as the FOTL one (or even a logo you see regularly!) and see how accurately you can draw it from memory, without looking at it again beforehand. There's no way you get most the detail right unless you've specifically tried to memorise it all previously. I doubt you could even say where all the fruit are in the FOTL logo without looking again

@Tube Guy Slowly over time I've come to accept the possibility (not reality) that cornucopias were items that were very popular in the 80's and 90's... you'd see them in a lot of thanksgiving-related images.. and Fruit of the Loom is the only widespread logo in the world with a collection of fruit (plus, older variations of the logo had large brown leaves on the logo which we also could have short-circuited to be a cornucopia). so our mind automatically pairs it with cornucopia's.. but it's such a damn mystery... I think the human mind plays this trick because the cornoopia is such a strange, unconventional and rare item to see - so it's difficult to remember where we first saw it, since it's shown so rarely in images that we automatically pair it with a well known corporate logo.

Whoever made that virtual image of the fruits with the cornucopia is the person who controls reality and has the capacity to erase human memory on a mass scale. We'll never be able to accurately figure out who did it

@MysteryManTK Yes, but it's also just a stock image. It's not from the logo. It's available to use from a stock image site.

@MysteryManTK Yes, but it's also just a stock image. It's not from the logo. It's available to use from a stock image site.

Your mind has updated your memories to remember that exact picture because you just saw it. Memory is unreliable, especially over decades.

Your mind has updated your memories to remember that exact picture because you just saw it. Memory is unreliable, especially over decades.

This guy really said "me and my sister used to misspell a word with a silent / reduplicated letter in a game when we were young and that's proof quantum mechanics and/or the multiverse changed the past", questioned my grasp on the situation, refused to explain any further, then peaced out. I hardly even know what to say, haha.

I'm glad, because all these colorful objections to my point really drive it home: People need to accept that it's more likely that they made a mistake than it is that the entire universe around them changed (but left the memory intact in them uniquely, for some reason). This is some wildly self-centered ideology that seems to completely reject the inherently corporeal nature of everything that is the human mind. It's mystical nonsense, and draping it with poorly-understood science doesn't make it any more logical

This guy really said "me and my sister used to misspell a word with a silent / reduplicated letter in a game when we were young and that's proof quantum mechanics and/or the multiverse changed the past", questioned _my_ grasp on the situation, refused to explain any further, then peaced out. I hardly even know what to say, haha.

I'm glad, because all these colorful objections to my point really drive it home: People need to accept that it's more likely that they made a mistake than it is that the entire universe around them changed (but left the memory intact in _them_ uniquely, for some reason). This is some _wildly_ self-centered ideology that seems to completely reject the inherently corporeal nature of everything that is the human mind. It's mystical nonsense, and draping it with poorly-understood science doesn't make it any more logical

@John R  I am asking you: Please explain how quantum mechanics or Multiverse Theory has anything to do with the Mandela Effect, something more than "Hey, it could happen." Because frankly, it seems this exchange has not been fruitful because even you don't actually believe what you're saying, not because I'm unwilling to listen.

The Mandela Effect doesn't come from Quantum Physics, it comes from simple misremembering and/or deliberate attempts to fudge history. Its namesake makes that very clear: Are you suggesting Nelson Mandela was killed, but then came back to life decades later because of some sort of Multiverse Convergence? No fan of the scientific method would ever entertain such an outrageous claim without even a shred of offered evidence.

You're being nebulous because you pulled out "quantum mechanics" as if it was some arcane magic nobody understands that could possibly explain any fantastical concept that pops into our fallible minds. You might as well have referred to the Gods themselves, for all your data. But neither they nor quantum mechanics have anything to do with the Mandela Effect.

Again, please explain in any way how they are actually connected. Otherwise, don't blame me for your unwillingness to explain yourself

@John R  I am asking you: Please explain how quantum mechanics or Multiverse Theory has anything to do with the Mandela Effect, something more than "Hey, it could happen." Because frankly, it seems this exchange has not been fruitful because even _you_ don't actually believe what you're saying, not because I'm unwilling to listen.

The Mandela Effect doesn't come from Quantum Physics, it comes from simple misremembering and/or deliberate attempts to fudge history. Its namesake makes that very clear: Are you suggesting Nelson Mandela _was_ killed, but then came back to life decades later because of some sort of Multiverse Convergence? No fan of the scientific method would ever entertain such an outrageous claim without even a _shred_ of offered evidence.

You're being nebulous because you pulled out "quantum mechanics" as if it was some arcane magic nobody understands that could possibly explain any fantastical concept that pops into our fallible minds. You might as well have referred to the Gods themselves, for all your data. But neither they nor quantum mechanics have anything to do with the Mandela Effect.

Again, _please_ explain in _any_ way how they are actually connected. Otherwise, don't blame me for your unwillingness to explain yourself

@Chompy the Beast And that's why I said it wouldn't be fruitful. For the third time, I don't really buy into the Mandela Effect, I'm explaining to you where it comes from because you seem uninformed. Not interested in playing a game of gotcha with you anyways, though, so have a good night.

@John R What? You think etymology and literal physical records are a greater intellectual reach than quantum mechanics and merging multiverses somehow literally changing the past just to alter a silly word's spelling? You think quantum physics can change not only human memory, but every single copy of every single book ever written for thousands of years?

I cannot say I've ever heard of a physical model of quantum mechanics that describes anything like that. Even the most superstitious person would find that sort of miracle-working suspicious, I'd imagine―and if you can find me a single quantum physicist who thinks it's more likely that multiverses and quantum mechanics changed the spelling of "dilemma" than it is that you and your young sister were just being boneheads like kids do, then I'll gladly hear them out. Hell if you can explain it to me without being nebulous and hand-wavy with that "anything is possible" stuff, I'd even listen to that. But I seriously doubt there is any hard science for you to point to.

I mean, what―are you saying quantum physics changed everything, but left you and your sister's memory intact? Why are you the Chosen Ones in this narrative, and why were billions of books over thousands of years and my own memory not able to escape this Men In Black Forget-light quantum tech? Seriously, give me a break.

You can't just take mystical interpretations of the universe and then overlay an incomplete understanding of physics to bring nonsense myth into reality. Frankly, unless you're kidding with me, you seem to be refusing to accept reality and deluding yourself with stories that make the Greek myths seem like incontrovertible science. I can't help you if you're going to make nebulous claims about quantum mechanics while also dismissing very basic studies like etymology, I'm sorry, but frankly that's laughable on the face of it

@John R _What?_ You think etymology and literal physical records are a greater intellectual reach than quantum mechanics and merging multiverses somehow literally changing the past just to alter a silly word's spelling? You think quantum physics can change not only human memory, but every single copy of every single book ever written for thousands of years?

I cannot say I've ever heard of a physical model of quantum mechanics that describes _anything_ like that. Even the most superstitious person would find that sort of miracle-working suspicious, I'd imagine―and if you can find me a single quantum physicist who thinks it's more likely that multiverses and quantum mechanics changed the spelling of "dilemma" than it is that you and your young sister were just being boneheads like kids do, then I'll gladly hear them out. Hell if _you_ can explain it to me without being nebulous and hand-wavy with that "anything is possible" stuff, I'd even listen to that. But I seriously doubt there is any hard science for you to point to.

I mean, what―are you saying quantum physics changed everything, but left you and your sister's memory intact? Why are you the Chosen Ones in this narrative, and why were billions of books over thousands of years and my own memory not able to escape this Men In Black Forget-light quantum tech? Seriously, give me a break.

You can't just take mystical interpretations of the universe and then overlay an incomplete understanding of physics to bring nonsense myth into reality. Frankly, unless you're kidding with me, you seem to be refusing to accept reality and deluding yourself with stories that make the Greek myths seem like incontrovertible science. I can't help you if you're going to make nebulous claims about quantum mechanics while also dismissing very basic studies like etymology, I'm sorry, but frankly that's laughable on the face of it

@Chompy the Beast I just told you I don't buy into the Mandela Effect theory, but are you familiar with it beyond this video? It kind of seems you aren't.

I feel like it wouldn't be fruitful (sorry) to get into the implications of quantum superposition and the act of observation's ability to collapse multiple realities into one solid reality, but seeing as multiverse theory isn't exactly outside of modern mainstream scientific discussion, making a comparison to magic seems rather disingenuous and dismissive.

Trying to show faulty memory by resorting to etymological roots shows either a basic misunderstanding of the tenets of the Mandela Effect as commonly given, or an unwillingness to engage with the theory on any serious level.

There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Chompy, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

@John R  "You're free to speak to the fallibility of memory, but when doing so to counter a theory that states that reality itself is changing, don't expect to gain much traction." What are you implying? Magic?

I don't need to gain traction against absolute nonsense, nobody does. "Reality is changing" may be a true statement in many senses, but "the past is changing" is not, not in a literal sense anyway. Or if it is, I'd invite you to explain how you think so. Timetravelers meddling with our clothing logos and word-spellings?

Again, there was no conspiracy to rewrite "dilemma". You were just kids back then. It's far more likely you were just being silly, accidentally (or perhaps at one time purposely before you forgot) misspelling a word than it is that the entire world forgot how to spell it and then somehow also destroyed all the evidence that it was ever spelled that way, then somehow forgot that too.

To put this one to bed: "Dilemma" comes to English from Late Latin and is first attested in the 16th century. The Latin actually borrowed it from Ancient Greek δίλημμα (dileemma). The word has been spelled with two m's (or two μ's), therefore, for literally thousands of years. I can assure you, it was not recently changed to drop an n that was never there―This information is freely accessible not only in the modern day online, but I even have an Ancient Greek dictionary printed in the 1920s that includes the word "δίλημμα", and refers to the English word "dilemma". Unless you're a hundred years old, it's very safe to say you and your sister were just being adorable.

So I ask once more, since I feel like you're burying the lede here: If you still aren't satisfied with this explanation, then what are you really implying is happening?

@John R  _"You're free to speak to the fallibility of memory, but when doing so to _*_counter a theory that states that reality itself is changing,_*_ don't expect to gain much traction."_ What are you implying? Magic?

I don't need to gain traction against absolute nonsense, nobody does. "Reality is changing" may be a true statement in many senses, but "the _past_ is changing" is _not,_ not in a literal sense anyway. Or if it is, I'd invite you to explain how you think so. Timetravelers meddling with our clothing logos and word-spellings?

Again, there was no conspiracy to rewrite "dilemma". You were just kids back then. It's _far_ more likely you were just being silly, accidentally (or perhaps at one time _purposely_ before you forgot) misspelling a word than it is that the entire world forgot how to spell it and then somehow also destroyed all the evidence that it was ever spelled that way, then somehow forgot _that_ too.

To put this one to bed: "Dilemma" comes to English from Late Latin and is first attested in the 16th century. The Latin actually borrowed it from Ancient Greek δίλημμα (dileemma). The word has been spelled with two m's (or two μ's), therefore, for literally thousands of years. I can assure you, it was not recently changed to drop an n that was never there―This information is freely accessible not only in the modern day online, but I even have an Ancient Greek dictionary printed in the 1920s that includes the word "δίλημμα", and refers to the English word "dilemma". Unless you're a hundred years old, it's very safe to say you and your sister were just being adorable.

So I ask once more, since I feel like you're burying the lede here: If you still aren't satisfied with this explanation, then what are you really implying is happening?

@Chompy the Beast when my sister and I were kids we had a habit of always pronouncing silent letters in words. So knife would be kah-nife, castle would be cass-tull, etc. I know for a fact we would always pronounce dilemma as dilem-nuh because of the silent N. I asked her randomly to list off some of the words we used to pronounce that way without providing any additional context and that was one of the words she mentioned. When I told her it was spelt dilemma she didn't believe me at first and had to look it up because she knows as well as I did we both pronounced it that way SOLELY for the reason that it had a silent N. Turns out there are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people that also remember that silent N. Hearing that a bunch of people believe something is one thing, but having a vivid, enduring memory of something that was brought up in everyday life pretty often hits on a wholly different level.

You're free to speak to the fallibility of memory, but when doing so to counter a theory that states that reality itself is changing, don't expect to gain much traction.

I can only buy into the Mandela Effect so much as a whole, but I KNOW that for me dilemma was once spelt dilemna, and the independent confirmation without leading or coaxing from my sister is what really seals it for me. Since then I've encountered many other examples that, just like her, I refused to believe upon initially hearing, and some in which I see no change at all.

Lemon speaks briefly at the start of the video about companies using stylized spellings, and causing problems with people's recollections that way. How then, to explain how so many -- myself included -- remember the restaurant name as chic-fil-a and NOT chick-fil-a?

There are many other examples, but from what I've seen you're less interested in engaging with the topic than with defending Lemon's explanation against any who disagree. Maybe I'm wrong about that, though.

Im 32 i dont need google to remind me pickachu had q brown tail and RYACHU had a black tail lol and i still remember trading my charzard to samantha mullen for her jigglypuff lol

Yeah Chompy maybe benjamin buttons disease lol

Yeah Chompy maybe benjamin buttons disease lol

I would like to add that did in fact die as a boy for 10 mins and came back from encephalitus and those memories are prior to that. But i vaquely remember around the timecmike jordan endoraes hanes underwear that fruit of the loom was sued because the cornecopia was mean to native americans. Just my two cents peace.

@Wizard Lizard  I already offered my explanation in my reply to @EvanDooood here in this chain, I'd refer you to that comment. But the (slightly) condensed version is:

1) You haven't seen the Fruit of the Loom logo a ton lately, so it's had time to change in your memory. There's a reason people aren't swearing the McDonald's logo changed, for example: It's always around, we see it a lot.

2) Cornucopia imagery (with fruit and the horn-shaped basket) is very common, even more common than the Fruit of the Loom logo. You also used to see it a lot more in elementary school when you were making finger turkeys and whatnot for Thanksgiving, so again, that's an image baked into your brain from long ago that's had time to blend with other, similar images.

3) Not really an explanation per se, but again, what is the alternative? That ghosts changed things? That it's a conspiracy? Those are obviously less likely explanations. The best explanation is that people are conflating cornucopia imagery with a similar corporate logo because it's been a long time since they've seen it and the two images are so similar. Fairly simple.

These things happen all the time. You'll get a lot of people swearing up and down that they remember seeing this or that, but just like this mysterious alternate Fruit of the Loom logo, there is simply no proof to corroborate the stories.

Final point: If the proof existed, it would be easy to find, and it would have surfaced by now. Old VHS recordings of TV commercials, old archived newspaper ads from the 60s, something would have cropped up by now if the logo had even been used briefly for some sort of promotion. But nothing has, because it seems it never existed. The internet was not scrubbed of all offending Fruit of the Loom logos haha

Anyway, this stuff is fun to think about. Can't trust your senses to be perfect: nobody can. Have a good week!

@Wizard Lizard  I already offered my explanation in my reply to @EvanDooood here in this chain, I'd refer you to that comment. But the (slightly) condensed version is:

*1)* You haven't seen the Fruit of the Loom logo a ton lately, so it's had time to change in your memory. There's a reason people aren't swearing the McDonald's logo changed, for example: It's always around, we see it a lot.

*2)* Cornucopia imagery (with fruit and the horn-shaped basket) is _very_ common, even more common than the Fruit of the Loom logo. You also used to see it a lot more in elementary school when you were making finger turkeys and whatnot for Thanksgiving, so again, that's an image baked into your brain from long ago that's had time to blend with other, similar images.

3) Not really an explanation per se, but again, what is the alternative? That ghosts changed things? That it's a conspiracy? Those are obviously less likely explanations. The best explanation is that people are conflating cornucopia imagery with a similar corporate logo because it's been a long time since they've seen it and the two images are so similar. Fairly simple.

These things happen all the time. You'll get a lot of people _swearing_ up and down that they remember seeing this or that, but just like this mysterious alternate Fruit of the Loom logo, there is simply no proof to corroborate the stories.

*Final point:* If the proof existed, it would be easy to find, and it would have surfaced by now. Old VHS recordings of TV commercials, old archived newspaper ads from the 60s, _something_ would have cropped up by now if the logo had even been used _briefly_ for some sort of promotion. But nothing has, because it seems it never existed. The internet was not scrubbed of all offending Fruit of the Loom logos haha

Anyway, this stuff is fun to think about. Can't trust your senses to be perfect: _nobody_ can. Have a good week!

@Chompy the Beast y do many ppl remember the same thing then?

@Chompy the Beast y do many ppl remember the same thing then?

@Wizard Lizard The truth is, your memory is a lot like your skeleton: The cells that comprise it die and are replaced over time, and your memory, like your skeleton, is simply not made of the same hardware as it was a decade or so ago. That's something you'll be forced to reckon with more and more as you age, as are we all, haha.

Memory is not a perfect recreation of the past, nor are old memories even perfect recreations of the first time you remembered them. The movie changes a bit over time, for one reason or another, and often, things get conflated, or shuffled together a bit. The specific explanations for why this happened in the case of the Fruit of the Loom logo I have covered in too many words in previous comments, so I'll spare us all repeating them here.

What, you think some massive underwear brand logo change cover-up is more likely than you just mixing up similar images you used to see a lot more in the past? Or that it's some sort of glitch in the Matrix, but somehow the glitch didn't change people's memories, even though it has supernatural powers otherwise? Of course not. People misremember things all the time, and that's where all the facts are pointing to in this case, no matter how certain anyone without any evidence at all might feel about it otherwise. A strong conviction or belief simply does not always equate to a factual memory

@Wizard Lizard The truth is, your memory is a lot like your skeleton: The cells that comprise it die and are replaced over time, and your memory, like your skeleton, is simply not made of the same hardware as it was a decade or so ago. That's something you'll be forced to reckon with more and more as you age, as are we all, haha.

Memory is not a perfect recreation of the past, nor are old memories even perfect recreations of the first time you remembered them. The movie changes a bit over time, for one reason or another, and often, things get conflated, or shuffled together a bit. The specific explanations for why this happened in the case of the Fruit of the Loom logo I have covered in too many words in previous comments, so I'll spare us all repeating them here.

What, you think some massive underwear brand logo change cover-up is more likely than you just mixing up similar images you used to see a lot more in the past? Or that it's some sort of glitch in the Matrix, but somehow the glitch didn't change people's memories, even though it has supernatural powers otherwise? Of course not. People misremember things all the time, and that's where all the facts are pointing to in this case, no matter _how_ certain anyone without any evidence at all might feel about it otherwise. A strong conviction or belief simply does not always equate to a factual memory

@Chompy the Beast nah bro idk wuts going on but there was a cornucopia on the logo

@Chompy the Beast nah bro idk wuts going on but there was a cornucopia on the logo

@Wizard Lizard I would refer you to my previous comments. You may well have seen a cornucopia at Target, but it wasn't the Fruit of the Loom logo

@Chompy the Beast nah I remembered it before I heard about people thinking about it I remember being in target and thinking it was a horn or something

@Benjamin Husfelt Are you drunk, or just very young? lol

@Benjamin Husfelt Are you drunk, or just very young? lol

i know pickachu has a brown tail for a fact based off of my memory and hey guess what i am right.so you said nothing. You hinder this species

i know pickachu has a brown tail for a fact based off of my memory and hey guess what i am right.so you said nothing. You hinder this species

chompy you literally said nothing. Not one thing of coherance.

chompy you literally said nothing. Not one thing of coherance.

@Benjamin Husfelt I'm sorry, but this "trust my gut (even in the face of raw data)", puff-chestedly ignorant bs couldn't be more perfectly encapsulated in this nonsensical, devolving comment lol

I don't need Google to tell me pikachu has a brown tail and ryachu has a black one i trust my gut cus irs the reason why i am still alive anyone who says there wasnt a cornecooia8. Asl yoursedl5 why am i so selfish lol ? And ignorant to ty he vastness of the mysterious universe we know barely norhinf of .

@Chompy the Beast to add on, I would bet many others like myself noticed the fruit of the loom design as a kid but not as much as an adult. all my undershirts as a kid was fruit of the loom. I remember seeing the logo everyday and being very familiar with the brand, but I've only worn Hanes now since high school.
When you mention the thanksgiving Cornucopia depictions, I have distinct memories of that from elementary school. I personally do not recall the cornucopia design on the fruit of the loom logo, although it looks complete and better with it ngl. But i can easily see how someone as a kid would probably conflate thanksgiving imagery with fruit of the loom logo.
Its one of those things you passively add to your memory so your recollection ofc isn't going to be the accurate. Nobody intentionally memorized it and was tested on it, so limited exposure shouldn't be trusted.

@EvanDoood  These questions are easily answered: Because the Fruit of the Loom logo looks like common cornucopia imagery. But it never had it. We can easily confirm this by looking at old commercials, advertisements, and old clothes with the logo on them. Not a single instance of any of these has produced a version of the logo with the cornucopia. It never existed.

So why do people think it did? First, the Fruit of the Loom logo is one we are not encountering regularly. If you'd seen it daily or weekly for years, you would not have misremembered it. But it's not that common a logo for most of us―there is a reason why there are no "Mandela Effect" arguments surrounding the McDonald's logo, for example.

Second, cornucopia imagery is extremely common, and indeed is far older than our civilization. If you google "cornucopia" or "horn of plenty" (the translation for its Latin name), you'll get images that look distinctly like the Fruit of the Loom logo, except spilling out of a cornucopia, that go back to the Roman days. The imagery is super common in America around Thanksgiving, but it's also something that you see a lot more as a 5th grader or younger, doing Finger Turkeys and making Pilgrim Hats out of paper in class. Again, the age of these memories comes into play, and the fact that cornucopia imagery is more commonly encountered than the Fruit of the Loom logo makes it easy for people to conflate the former with the latter.

Finally, the alternative, that this is some strangely effective cover-up, or that the universe itself reset but forgot to make people forget, is just ridiculous. There isn't even any motivation for any group to purge all records of the Fruit of the Loom's logo just because it used to have a cornucopia but now doesn't. If there were any legitimate examples of the logo with that cornucopia behind it, they would have surfaced quite quickly, people would still have sweatshirts with it from back in the day in their closets. But no such photos exist.

No matter how you look at it, it's very clear that the Fruit of the Loom logo has never had the cornucopia, and that people are simply feeding into one another's misremembering with their honest but incorrect retellings of childhood memories seeing it. Those memories are warped, conflated, or simply false

@EvanDoood  These questions are easily answered: Because the Fruit of the Loom logo _looks_ like common cornucopia imagery. But it never had it. We can easily confirm this by looking at old commercials, advertisements, and old clothes with the logo on them. Not a _single_ instance of any of these has produced a version of the logo with the cornucopia. It never existed.

So why do people think it did? First, the Fruit of the Loom logo is one we are not encountering regularly. If you'd seen it daily or weekly for years, you would not have misremembered it. But it's not that common a logo for most of us―there is a reason why there are no "Mandela Effect" arguments surrounding the McDonald's logo, for example.

Second, cornucopia imagery is extremely common, and indeed is far older than our civilization. If you google "cornucopia" or "horn of plenty" (the translation for its Latin name), you'll get images that look distinctly like the Fruit of the Loom logo, except spilling out of a cornucopia, that go back to the Roman days. The imagery is super common in America around Thanksgiving, but it's also something that you see a lot more as a 5th grader or younger, doing Finger Turkeys and making Pilgrim Hats out of paper in class. Again, the age of these memories comes into play, and the fact that cornucopia imagery is more commonly encountered than the Fruit of the Loom logo makes it easy for people to conflate the former with the latter.

Finally, the alternative, that this is some strangely effective cover-up, or that the universe itself reset but forgot to make people forget, is just ridiculous. There isn't even any motivation for any group to purge all records of the Fruit of the Loom's logo just because it used to have a cornucopia but now doesn't. If there were _any_ legitimate examples of the logo with that cornucopia behind it, they would have surfaced quite quickly, people would still have sweatshirts with it from back in the day in their closets. But no such photos exist.

No matter how you look at it, it's very clear that the Fruit of the Loom logo has never had the cornucopia, and that people are simply feeding into one another's misremembering with their honest but incorrect retellings of childhood memories seeing it. Those memories are warped, conflated, or simply false

@Chompy the Beast That still doesn't explain why soooo many people chose to visualize a cornucopia behind the fruit. Yes, our memory is flawed, but... Why a cornucopia specifically? As someone who vividly and clearly remembers it being there, this whole thing is a little disturbing lol. And I have a degree in Psychology so I understand how memory works, but... it doesn't make it any less weird. Why didn't we imagine the fruit in a basket, or something other than a cornucopia? It's just such an obscure, archaic object that no one would recognize if not for Fruit of the Loom and/or Thanksgiving.

I always thought it was on the other side? Maybe it was my mind filling in a gap?

I always thought it was on the other side? Maybe it was my mind filling in a gap?

And the official logo just looks out of place everytime i see it on products and boxes.

And the official logo just looks out of place everytime i see it on products and boxes.

@im gauge Our senses are all we have to interact with the outside world, so you're right, we must rely on them. But we shouldn't trust them (and by extension, ourselves) to be infallible, for they aren't. We must understand that everything we think we know about the universe we only know through the filters of our senses, and those filters change, both moment-to-moment and over time, and their memory storage is not a 1:1 recreation of reality stored within our minds. We have never experienced the faces of our mothers or the embrace of a loved one by any means other than via our fallible senses. We have to accept, therefore, that everything we know, we only know by proxy. You and I may both look at the same rock, but we will see different things, and we will remember it differently, 10 minutes later, 10 days later, 10 years later. That's something that we must accept, whether we like the sounds of it or not. We must accept it as we must accept death: Though it may be unpleasant and it may cause existential dread, denial will not make us wiser or more correct.

And yeah, the Mandela Effect gets its name because the South African apartheid government clearly wanted everyone to forget that Nelson Mandela was still living. Cover-ups can indeed be committed, and it's good to be naturally suspicious of authority and power―it would just be better if "We the People" challenged our human masters out of skepticism far more, and physics itself a bit less (outside of scientific pursuits).

Good points, thanks for bringing them up. Have a great week

@im gauge Our senses are all we have to interact with the outside world, so you're right, we must rely on them. But we shouldn't trust them (and by extension, ourselves) to be infallible, for they aren't. We must understand that _everything_ we think we know about the universe we _only_ know through the filters of our senses, and those filters change, both moment-to-moment and over time, and their memory storage is not a 1:1 recreation of reality stored within our minds. We have never experienced the faces of our mothers or the embrace of a loved one by _any means_ other than via our fallible senses. We have to accept, therefore, that everything we know, we only know by proxy. You and I may both look at the same rock, but we _will_ see different things, and we _will_ remember it differently, 10 minutes later, 10 days later, 10 years later. That's something that we _must_ accept, whether we like the sounds of it or not. We must accept it as we must accept death: Though it may be unpleasant and it may cause existential dread, denial will not make us wiser or more correct.

And yeah, the Mandela Effect gets its name because the South African apartheid government clearly _wanted_ everyone to forget that Nelson Mandela was still living. Cover-ups can indeed be committed, and it's good to be naturally suspicious of authority and power―it would just be better if "We the People" challenged our _human_ masters out of skepticism far more, and physics itself a bit less (outside of scientific pursuits).

Good points, thanks for bringing them up. Have a great week

@im gauge Indeed, the issue is less the memory and more the way that people incorrectly think about their memory. People trust their senses far too much, especially when time has passed.

But this "Mandela Effect" stuff is just outrageous to cleave to: It can be proven beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt that the Fruit of the Loom logo never had a cornucopia in it. Old commercials and advertisements exist, and not one of them has been shown to use a cornucopia.

Some people seem to think "the Mandela Effect" doesn't refer to a collective misremembering, but to like, a glitch in the Matrix or something, where reality was literally changed, and their individual memories are more correct than external reality. That is beyond faith in one's memory, that is sheer ignorance, petulance even, a childlike demanding that one can't possibly be wrong despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary high enough to block out the sun.

If people had better understanding of their human limitations, the world would be a safer, kinder, smarter, and gentler place

@im gauge Indeed, the issue is less the memory and more the way that people incorrectly think about their memory. People trust their senses _far_ too much, especially when time has passed.

But this "Mandela Effect" stuff is just outrageous to cleave to: It can be proven beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt that the Fruit of the Loom logo _never had_ a cornucopia in it. Old commercials and advertisements exist, and not _one_ of them has been shown to use a cornucopia.

Some people seem to think "the Mandela Effect" doesn't refer to a collective misremembering, but to like, a glitch in the Matrix or something, where reality was _literally_ changed, and their individual memories are more correct than external reality. That is _beyond_ faith in one's memory, that is sheer ignorance, petulance even, a childlike demanding that one can't possibly be wrong despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary high enough to block out the sun.

If people had better understanding of their human limitations, the world would be a safer, kinder, smarter, and gentler place

@Chompy the Beast to be fair, this is a theory that is challenging someones reality, as your memory is usually synonymous with reality of the past. to give something like this up is a lot harder than it sounds logically. i think its like why its so hard to convert a religious person to another religion, we frame our lives around what we believe to be true, even in the absence of proof for it

I mainly agree, but I remember it being a bit "browner" and "straw-y".

I mainly agree, but I remember it being a bit "browner" and "straw-y".

@im gauge  Haha nah, it's not a conspiracy against you, it's just the Mandela Effect. People haven't stripped the internet of proof of this misremembered memory just to mess with those who swear they have it, nor did they design the human brain to operate the way it does.

What's weird to me is how fundamentally some people want to believe that their memory is somehow a perfect storage device, such that even when they're confronted with how is actually works, they'd reject science and reality in preference of what they think they already know, even in the absence of all proof

@im gauge  Haha nah, it's not a conspiracy against you, it's just the Mandela Effect. People haven't stripped the internet of proof of this misremembered memory just to mess with those who swear they have it, nor did they design the human brain to operate the way it does.

What's weird to me is how fundamentally some people want to believe that their memory is somehow a perfect storage device, such that even when they're confronted with how is _actually_ works, they'd reject science and reality in preference of what they think they already know, even in the absence of all proof

@Chompy the Beast your all gaslighting me

@Chompy the Beast your all gaslighting me

@Chompy the Beast it's that confirmation bias thing, ain't it? or something similar. There's a lot of memories i have - though not this one, as a non american who never even heard of this brand - of other like, brand namey things that were common over here that were not as i remembered. I have embraced the fallibility of my memory and tend to take it into account whenever i am faced with contrary views or evidence that challenges that memory, and it is honestly a good thing because it causes me to pause and check the facts as they are, not the facts as I remember them. And guess what? A lot of the time, when that happens, i find out I was absolutely wrong in my recollections! That there is proof enough to me that memory is a mutable construct that can and will change in a way that is subconscious or unconscious based on everything from dreams to external pressures or suggestions.

People should be more open to this - as being close minded about your own memory is something which often leads to folk adopting increasingly strange and illogical viewpoints, ranging from flat earther mentalities to general conspiracy theorists to the classic version of antivaxxers (the hardcore ones), all of whom completely reject evidence of reality as a whole if it runs contrary to their memory of learning the thing they believe in. Okay, a little bit of escapism generally won't hurt folk in moderation, but folk really need to consider how far they're willing to slide beyond mere escapism into full on fantasy, and need to know when to go out of their way to search for the facts without simply taking refuge in biased sources six pages deep in google just because those sources match their memory.

@Chompy the Beast it's that confirmation bias thing, ain't it? or something similar. There's a lot of memories i have - though not this one, as a non american who never even heard of this brand - of other like, brand namey things that were common over here that were not as i remembered. I have embraced the fallibility of my memory and tend to take it into account whenever i am faced with contrary views or evidence that challenges that memory, and it is honestly a good thing because it causes me to pause and check the facts as they *are,* not the facts *as I remember them.* And guess what? A lot of the time, when that happens, i find out I was absolutely wrong in my recollections! That there is proof enough to me that memory is a mutable construct that can and will change in a way that is subconscious or unconscious based on everything from dreams to external pressures or suggestions.

People should be more open to this - as being close minded about your own memory is something which often leads to folk adopting increasingly strange and illogical viewpoints, ranging from flat earther mentalities to general conspiracy theorists to the classic version of antivaxxers (the hardcore ones), all of whom completely reject evidence of reality as a whole if it runs contrary to their memory of learning the thing they believe in. Okay, a little bit of escapism generally won't hurt folk in moderation, but folk really need to consider how far they're willing to slide beyond mere escapism into full on fantasy, and need to know when to go out of their way to search for the facts without simply taking refuge in biased sources six pages deep in google just because those sources match their memory.

@MysteryManTK And that whoever made the image is the mastermind behind the conspiracy.

@MysteryManTK And that whoever made the image is the mastermind behind the conspiracy.

I remember seeing the cornucopia in a book in 1st grade. It's possible it was just a stock image used in many places and we just conflate everything.

@Tube Guy lol, then you are a savant who not only remembers incredible detail, but detail that never existed in this context. Don't be silly. Your confidence doesn't change how memory works

@Chompy the Beast bro, I remember it. Maybe you can't trust your memory, but I can mine

@Chompy the Beast bro, I remember it. Maybe you can't trust your memory, but I can mine

People in this thread who genuinely think this might have been the logo weren't paying attention during the part of the vid that explained how memory works. You think this is the way the logo looked because the image above is filling in that blank and suggesting that's how it looked. There's no way anyone remembers the exact lines or whatever of the cornucopia, if it was ever there―knowing what we know form this vid, the fact that you're so sure this is the right logo should be evidence to you that it isn't

I think it's a model from Don't Starve that was photoshopped in

I think it's a model from Don't Starve that was photoshopped in

it is pixel for pixel a perfect representation

it is pixel for pixel a perfect representation

I remember the entire thing being black and white but the design was still the exact same, and yet looking at it with color also looks correct! I feel like I'm loosing my mind lmao

I actually remember the cornucopia in question being darker than how the designer(s) drew it.

I actually remember the cornucopia in question being darker than how the designer(s) drew it.

@Squid frick What they're saying is that exact cornucopia that Emp is using is overwelmingly the one everyone remembers.

@Squid frick What they're saying is that exact cornucopia that Emp is using is overwelmingly the one everyone remembers.

@Gunplabro It isn’t. Captain D literally explained in his video, it’s a stock drawing of a cornucopia

@Gunplabro It isn’t. Captain D literally explained in his video, it’s a stock drawing of a cornucopia

@Squid frick my dude that is exactly the logo though.

@Squid frick my dude that is exactly the logo though.

@Adrian is Doing NO FAP Day 1 It’s someone who put a stock image that looked closest to the fruit of the loom artstyle, desciribing what they thought it looked like. It’s not important to find who made the image

you're speaking straight facts here. You need more likes

you're speaking straight facts here. You need more likes


I like many others think I remember the cornucopia, so this one is just really interesting. <br>I was thinking about how much I used to color with my grandma when I was a kid. Cornucopias were very common in those books, especially holiday themed ones. I wonder how much my own coloring could have conflicted with my memory of this logo I didn't pay much attention to. Just a theory I haven't seen anyone touch on before!

I like many others think I remember the cornucopia, so this one is just really interesting.
I was thinking about how much I used to color with my grandma when I was a kid. Cornucopias were very common in those books, especially holiday themed ones. I wonder how much my own coloring could have conflicted with my memory of this logo I didn't pay much attention to. Just a theory I haven't seen anyone touch on before!


As someone who grew up in the 90's, I remember the logo having the cornucopia. It wasn't until I watched this video that I became aware that it wasn't there. Strange that entire swaths of the population can misremember something the same way, makes you wonder what else we don't remember correctly.


To me it kinda looks like a set piece that people might have had for decorations. I’m sure I’ve seen something similar at my grandmas old house. But for me while it does seem vaguely familiar, as soon as you showed the initial difference I instantly could tell the one with cornucopia wasn’t right. I don’t think it would be far off to say that people have just been adding it cuz it’s definitely what I think of when I see a pile of fruit


I have no idea how to word it, but there's a phenomenon where some people can't picture objects or locations in their heads. Would be interesting to see more about that. Seems related to the Mandela Effect.


The strangest thing to me is that the drawing is EXACTLY what it looked like. It’s not like I remember a cornucopia, but the drawing isn’t how I pictured it. The cornucopia is drawn COMPLETELY the same.

I remember using the logo as a reference to draw something for thanksgiving when I was a kid

@Crumbsly no no that's not like that, first time this fruit of the loom thing has been brought up to me, somebody asked me to tell them what the logo was, so I recalled from memory before the "wrong" one was shown to me... And they were identical.

That's the strange part to me, it wasn't my brain filling information with what I saw after, but that cornucopia looks exactly how I remembered it before it was shown to me.

@Crumbsly no no that's not like that, first time this fruit of the loom thing has been brought up to me, somebody asked me to tell them what the logo was, so I recalled from memory _before_ the "wrong" one was shown to me... And they were identical.

That's the strange part to me, it wasn't my brain filling information with what I saw after, but that cornucopia looks exactly how I remembered it _before_ it was shown to me.

@Eric Lee   I was wondering the exact same thing - I didn't get "what the hey" the guy was saying at all !

So...grammar and punctuation both MATTER.  Stay in school, kids; it'll help you express yourselves better in the future!!  ;-)

@Eric Lee   I was wondering the exact same thing - I didn't get "what the hey" the guy was saying at *all* !

So...grammar and punctuation both MATTER.  Stay in school, kids; it'll help you express yourselves better in the future!!  ;-)

@Crumbsly I was literally not aware that it was a Thanksgiving thing until this video. I wasn't even aware people actually owned them.

The everyone else remembering the cornucopia is the best explanation. I don't have any other memories of them, and I've certainly never seen one irl

@NinjaCell
The fact it's simple is what makes it make sense. If you had a vague memory of a fruit logo as a kid, you wouldn't question the inclusion of a cornucopia every else swears they remember and just like that your memory changed. How long was the last time you saw the logo before the Mandela effect brought it up and how often did you ever think about the logo? If your memory is that old and irrelevant its completely easy to add details and then cement it in your brain as fact. And even if your from another nation outside the US its entirely possible you saw it in a piece of media, art, video game, movie or  literally anything America related as Thanksgiving is one of our biggest cultural celebrations and US influence on the web is huge.

Also I say again if you have ever taken a journal you will find you add and subtract details from memories constantly, and even your very headspace is completely different from how you remember even just a few months later. Now in regards to a memory of a logo you first saw as a kid and never gave any regard to for your entire life, there is a lot that would be fallible to change even in a single instant many years after the fact.

@Crumbsly I literally have only remember the object in association with that, cornucopias are not seen over here at all. Not everyone is delving into European history for ancient Greek fruit holders.

The combining memory thing is just too simple

@NinjaCell
Again I reiterate, your memory can and will change after the fact. You probably only think you remember a cornucopia after making an association with it some place later. There is also potential that your image was blury to begin with and after seeing the fake cornucopia version of the logo you made that your baseline in your memory. Cornucopia's are also not exclusive to America, they came from Ancient Greece and are fairly common in most European histories at some point.

If you want proof your memories will change, keep a diary of your exact thoughts on matters of life. When you look back after a long time, your outlook on things will be completely different and even your memory of how you felt or thought at the time is in opposition to what's written in the book.

@Crumbsly yet I have the same memory and I don't live in the US and have never seen one irl.

@Humphrey Appleby yes, and my younger brother does too. I asked him to describe the fruit of the loom logo and first thing he said was “well there was this horn or something”

if anything, that is proof that it never existed. If there was no real cornucopia, then it would be easier to trick your brain into thinking it was one particular drawing of one. This kind of memory manipulation has been documented and tested over and over again

@The Saint Laurent Don it’s not that it’s unreliable it’s just been optimised through millions of years of evolutionary programming to min-max certain traits to ensure you manage to survive long enough to reproduce offspring. Remembering the logo on your underwear probably isn’t going to help you in that sense.

@Crumbsly If our memories are that unreliable then idk even know what to believe in anymore.

@Akantares Combining two memories. Its not that you didn't ask about the cornucopia, but you saw it someplace else. Probably around thanksgiving when cornucopias are everywhere. Then sometime after you connected the cornucopia with the fruit of the loom, your brain merged those memories.

@Crumbsly alright mr memory man explain how I distinctly remember asking my mom what the cornucopia was when I was a kid

Memories are just filling in the blanks, and if your filling in a missing piece of art, naturally it would be drawn in the same style as the rest of the logo.


The only places I remember seeing a cornucopia ANYWHERE is on the Fruit of the Loom logo and around Thanksgiving..so strange🤔🤔


Couple of years late on this but I always remember that basket in the background too, and also remember it being called "the loom". Interestingly, the state I am from, NC has a cornucopia with fruit and even grapes in it right on its state seal. Something I definitely would have seen growing up when I frequently wore fruit of the loom clothing as an elementary student. Not sure how it would affect people living in other states, but it is a strange coincidence nonetheless.


I don't remember the fruit of the loom logo on the packaging or underwear having a cornucopia on it but the image of the logo is very familiar which makes me think maybe Walmart had signs with the logo up with the cornucopia added by whatever minimum wage worker they had make the sign and all the Walmarts used the same sign so everyone who went to buy fruit of the loom would see it but it was never an official logo


10:47 is the answer. Most of my fruit of the loom tags had the top cut off like that. It was easy to imagine the cornucopia was there, just hidden.


Well, this is obviously just a coverup by Big Cornucopia.

Nelson Mandela has informed me that Big Pharma actually wants to cover it up, cornucopias hurt their image of the GMO crop world


So weird. I remember a cornucopia. Now knowing fruit of the loom never had one I figured it had to be another brand with a cornucopia logo and other some other items closely matching what we see in fruit of the loom. I found a couple instances of this online, but I had never heard of these companies before so I wouldn't be remembering it from them


Well, that was certainly intriguing!  Who the hell would've thought our old childhood tighty-whities would end up proving the existence of a parallel universe as we matured (or, in my case, completely failed to mature) into adulthood?


I've had two instances where a word seemingly vanished from my vocabulary, dare I say vanished from existence. One was  a word equivalent to: amateur, but it was stronger, and more Significant. The other was equivalent to: psychology or psychological, but less strong, and more casual. I understand having that "I swear I remember this, but I can't find evidence of it" feeling. It sucks big time, as I was about to use the words on a paper I was writing when I forgot them. Fun stuff for discussion, not so fun when you're trying to write a witty paper.

@gumpy4699 thats probably just because of the words "nowhere" and "nobody"

The first word could be novice or newbie

It’s like when I was a kid I recall “no one” being one word but spelled differently


I haven’t owned that much Fruit of the Loom wear in my life but I live in Texas and I do half-remember tracing/drawing/coloring cornucopias around Thanksgiving as part of the festivities when I was in elementary. I think maybe the actual act of drawing or coloring something so distinctively similar to something so common as a brand logo a kid would own is a pretty good correlation and would explain the mixup for the most part (for America, I mean).


I blame elementary school Thanksgiving decorations and books. I've seen more cornucopias in my time in elementary school than I have in the other 16 years of my life

@ItsCorvid Same even though I'm canadian and it's considered an american "tradition." None of my american friends ever had one in their house though. People have fruit bowls or candy in a dish, nobody has cornucopias. There's like 4 old ladies in the world who have fake ones and that's it.

@VanillaAbstract i swear to god during fall in pre-k to 2nd grade teachers would always be telling us about cornucopias and i have absolutely no idea why they would teach us about them so much

@JordanScottMills I blame reddit for becoming a cesspool

I blame reddit for you existing in your current form

Cornucopias seemed like a pretty big deal at one point

let me get my crayons and color in my fruit and cornacopia

yeah, like every crappy, blurry printout that's been rescanned and reprinted 8 times, always has a cornucopia around now


This company saved my buttox from the suffering of cotton underware. Fruit of the Loom is the best company that has ever existed.


I used to love the fruit of the loom logo when I was a kid. I remember it without a cornucopia, and I think it looks weird and different when you add it in.


I feel like it has something to do with Christmas and Thanksgiving, at least here in the US. In the 90s and 00s most people watched television with a multitude of commercials, there was no ad blocker or ad free subscription tier.

Cornucopias were abundant on television during November, Macys day parade, thanksgiving football games, movies, all featured cornucopias.

Now pair that with almost every kids (and Adults) worst Christmas present, underwear. Fruit of the loom titie whities were in every kids drawer and dad’s drawer. Socks, undershirt, tanks, and of course underwear. Is it so hard to believe that we started associating the logo with other similar images during the holiday season?

I believe there has to be a correlation, it also falls inline with occams razor theory.


I love how even the Fruit of the Loom people think it was a thing, lol.


dude I remember so clearly looking on the logo off it and wondering what that brown thing is, this is insanely hard to believe

dude I remember so clearly looking on the logo off it and wondering what that brown thing is, this is insanely hard to believe

@BxPanda7 do you know what this scenario is called? Might be something interesting to research at 3am 🤣

@BxPanda7 do you know what this scenario is called? Might be something interesting to research at 3am 🤣

@The Horizon I don't blame anyone for thinking that anymore, to be fair I probably wouldn't believe me either if I was someone else, it's the rational thing to do.

@BxPanda7 It seems like you are lying but good lord is that specific

@BxPanda7 It seems like you are lying but good lord is that specific

@Quantum Puddles Oh for a sec I thought that was an insult, as in you were calling them a shit stain out of internet salt, but a sec later I got it lol

Same bro. I just found this one out and I’m tripping tf out

Same bro. I just found this one out and I’m tripping tf out

@Ceramic Bowl i also think we are imperfect creatures, but I think you give answers with too much certainty about things that nobody knows. How can you be so sure we dont have souls, how do you know there arent parallel universes or that it is impossible to obtain telepathic powers? You cant be so sure, the non-existance of proof isnt proof for non-existance. The most logical way is to ponder and take every possibility into consideration, until proven wrong.

@Neko Saiyajin It is not at all possible for your consciousness to connect to a version of you in a parallel universe. There are so many assumptions and illogical thoughts needed to get close to there being even a smidge of a chance of parallel universes, and being connected to them.

First assumption is consciousness: Consciousness (I'm getting tired of writing this word) is just electricity running through your brain. It is nothing more. It is really hard to wrap your head around consciousness (pun intended) because it doesn't correlate with any intuition that we have. I could get way into the nitty gritty about consciousness and try to explain it a little but I have other points to move onto.
Main point is that consciousness isn't significant it is just complex software.

Second assumption is parallel universes: They don't exist! sorry! There is the exact same chance of a parallel universe existing as finding out that Shrek created the universe. And that isn't an exaggeration. It is literally impossible to research anything outside of our universe, making everything outside of it purely sceptical and therefore all ideas have the same infinitesimally small chance of being right.

And final paragraph to encapsulate the rest of my ramblings. Why would our consciousness interact with other versions of ourselves from different universes, that would be information travelling at far over the speed of light (impossible) also how would information travel between universes? Is there some kind of information highway that connects them all?  Why are memories the only things being shared between universes, why not literally anything else, why are humans so special?
Spoiler alert: It's because humans made up this fictional scenario, and we like being the centre of attention.

Now. Call me crazy. But I think. Just maybe. That we are imperfect creatures, and our memories kinda suck.

@Anonymous User bro it's possible that as a kid you just thought it was a gameboy because that was the only thing you knew and didnt question it any further, so in your memory it was a gameboy, but then, as a more observant and/or knowlegeable adult you realized that it wasnt.

@Ceramic Bowl I never thought I'd be so throughly lectured about the human memory and the mandela effect by a ceramic bowl..
On a serious note though, there are memories that are easier than others to forget and some people do have better cognitive capacities than others.
Some of that guys aclamations do intrigue me a bit. He said he went to Bangkok in a place where there was a huge monument and nobody in his family remembered seing it, its possible that the monument just looks more distinct in the photos he saw it in after than from ground position where he was with his family, so they just didnt notice it and later were baffled aboit there being such monument... But its weird.
The human liver one is really weird as well. How can your idea of a basic organ change so much in your lifetime?
Maybe it's possible that our consciousness can for some reason move to a different version of ourselves in a proximate paralel universe, that features small differences from ours but not enough as to be completely different from our reality. That takes into consideration the idea in the multi-parallel universe theory that the more distant a universe is from another the more different they are and that there are infinite possibilities within. There may be universes that are so simmilar that the only difference between them is a slight difference in the position of a one single atom in the whole universe, and universes so distinct from one another that the whole inner workings of physics in them wouldnt allow for the same type of life forms to exist.

@BxPanda7 I was originally kind of on your side but as you went on you just kept getting more and more pretentious. It is amazing to me that you, as someone who is "EXTREMELY familiar with" the map seems to think at one point the North Pole was on a continent. Literally Google "where is the North Pole" and look at the FIRST picture that comes up. That is a clear representation of the Northern ice cap which has NEVER been a continent. We have had 7 continents my entire life. No more. No less. I in no way believe this is a product of parallel universes. As the great philosopher Robin Williams once said "The problem is, God gave man a brain and a penis and only enough blood to run one at a time". This would probably go a lot farther in explaining why you got a little confused with your ceiling map.

@BxPanda7 Unless they have proof to back them up, do not believe them. ANYONE, CAN SAY ANYTHING.

@BxPanda7 Unless they have proof to back them up, do not believe them. ANYONE, CAN SAY ANYTHING.

@BxPanda7  Commenting so I can follow this thread, but also you seem really sure about this, and perhaps it's plausible  - life and the universe is inconceivably strange, and it's impossible to know everything. We've been very wrong before.
But at this stage, as uneducated about this subject as I am, I have to side with the most likely scenario.
But perhaps someone will prove you right someday. :)

You don't remember anything clearly. Your own perceptions are edited by your brain before you even become aware of them, let alone recall them later.

@BxPanda7 What the hell are you on about? South America is right where it’s always been. Connected by Panama.

@BxPanda7 What the hell are you on about? South America is right where it’s always been. Connected by Panama.

@BxPanda7 there's a possiblity that the map you used to use used a different projection than the one that is popular today. Depending on what world map you look that, things can look bigger/smaller, further/closer and even different shaped. This effect is amplified the further north/South the countries are. Worth noting that there is no "more accurate" version of any flat world map, each projection will prioritize keeping one or two things the same and distort another. It's impossible to flatten something spherical without cutting it and deforming it, only truly accurate world map would be something like Google earth or a globe.

@BxPanda7 lol just start doing memory exercises buddy. You clearly misremembered stuff. It happens to all of us and it’s always a shocker. But just because YOU, a tiny speck in this universe, perceived something as something else does not make it true.

@BxPanda7 I feel it could be proven scientifically. Anything that has a physical effect, even if only in people's heads, can be tested.

Say for example you select a few facts about the world and quiz a known group of people every day for a long while and see if, don't record down the information but have the researcher memorise it and see if peoples answers change over time. If say half the people are "Mandela effect"ed into another universe you would notice. Also I think you mentioned your family went through a similar thing, so you could have groups of families or people living in close contact instead. And then just let the study run and watch for sudden changes in memory of certain people, (people getting switched with others from alternate realities in this case).

Obviously disqualify people if they get too old and start suffering from dementia or some memory affecting illness. And the study would probably have to be on a very large scale with multiple groups of researchers to maximise the portion of the population tested. But it is definitely testable.

However I doubt it would find much, but that's just my belief, you're free to differ obviously.

@Ruthacury I don't believe in the mandela effect, i know it's legit for a fact as i went trough it, and i hate it, it's the most annoying thing ever because not only does it make me look like a crazy person to the vast majority of people, but there's also literally no way to physically prove it, either it happens to you too, or you'll never know for sure that it's legit, it's so stupid.
And i can't even fault anyone for choosing not to believe in it, because if it didn't happen to me, i don't think i would believe it either, it just sounds so ridiculous and goes against everything i thought i knew about the universe, almost like we're really living in a simulation and it glitched or something, idk, but it annoys me that people are so wrong about it yet think they found the right answer, it's just not right and we aren't learning the right thing because of it.
Especially since this could easily be proof for the multiverse theory (or something similar) if only we could find a way to prove it scientifically, it's such a wasted opportunity and feels like a big step back instead of the huge leap forward it should be.

@BxPanda7 It's clear we're never going to agree on this. I didn't bring up your perceived change in the shape of the liver because that's a really subjective thing that I can't really speak on without more evidence. imo something that cannot be proven and that isn't logically consistent is not even worth considering. So anyway, nice to speak to someone that does believe in the Mandela effect. Even though I don't, it's nice to see some other perspectives on the world.

@Ruthacury Agreed, i can't just dismiss the butterfly effect, logically you are right it should have consequences on our history, and maybe it did, but in a way that i wouldn't be able to notice, that's entirely possible, best answer i can give to that is i just don't know.

Antarctica is technically still considered a continent, just like the Arctic, so it's not like there one less continent on the map, it's just that it was much bigger and much more solid than what we have now, and was on every single globe/map, now there isn't even enough space up there to have the Antarctic like it used to be.

You associating the Spanish inquisition with Italy has absolutely nothing to do with false memories, and has even less to do with the world map changing from one day to the other.

And finally, this IS something i was and still am EXTREMELY familiar with, that's why it cannot possibly be a false memory, i know the map very well and as i said before, have a map of the world literally on the wall behind my bed, i see it everyday and have seen it everyday for many years now.

And this also still doesn't explain how our liver could change TWICE while i was in the process of researching the mandela effect, it literally switched on me while i was paying very close attention to it, so again how is that possibly a false memory ???

@BxPanda7 You can't just dismiss the butterfly effect. It is simply not possible for the position of an entire continent to have been different and not change history. The world is incredibly interconnected. You can't just change one or two things and everything else stays the same.

Also if there really were another continent you would remember something about it. The name, the history, which country owns it, etc. But you can't, because its just an endless stretch of worthless floating ice as it always has been.

When I was a small child I thought the Spanish Inquisition was in Italy, even though I knew where Spain and Italy were, and that it was called the Spanish Inquisition. But I associated the church with Rome and Italy and so I thought the Spanish Inquisition must have been there. Human memory is a fragile thing.

If you think of the origin of the Mandela effect, some people thinking that Mandela died in prison, while he actually didn't and went on to be president. Wouldn't the people of South Africa have noticed this change? One very convenient thing about the Mandela effect is that it always happens to something that you're not too familiar with, or something at the back of your mind. Which is what you would expect if it was just caused by failing memories.

@BxPanda7 You can't just dismiss the butterfly effect. It is simply not possible for the position of an entire continent to have been different and not change history. The world is incredibly interconnected. You can't just change one or two things and everything else stays the same.

Also if there really were another continent you would remember something about it. The name, the history, which country owns it, etc. But you can't, because its just an endless stretch of worthless floating ice as it always has been.

When I was a small child I thought the Spanish Inquisition was in Italy, even though I knew where Spain and Italy were, and that it was called the *Spanish* Inquisition. But I associated the church with Rome and Italy and so I thought the Spanish Inquisition must have been there. Human memory is a fragile thing.

If you think of the origin of the Mandela effect, some people thinking that Mandela died in prison, while he actually didn't and went on to be president. Wouldn't the people of South Africa have noticed this change? One very convenient thing about the Mandela effect is that it always happens to something that you're not too familiar with, or something at the back of your mind. Which is what you would expect if it was just caused by failing memories.

@Ruthacury The north pole was a continent, and was illustrated on every single modern map. That's the problem.

And no, continents didn't move around on the face of the earth, that is nonsense, and again, no, apart from the geography literally nothing changed in my life that's the most mind blowing thing about it, there is no butterfly effect with the mandela effect, everything is exactly the same with only some things randomly changing for no apparent reason, it's sort of like when Rick and Morty accidentally destroy the earth and go to a parallel universe where they didn't destroy the planet, randomly die in their garage and everything else is the exact same, basically, there could be an infinite amount of parallel earth's to chose from, meaning there are many different one's where the history of the earth is exactly the same with only a few unnoticeable details changing.
And if quantum physics applies at our scale, then that's probably exactly what it is, given that every single possibility should be accounted for.

@BxPanda7 The north pole is solid. The soviets put a statue of lenin there. Its often left out of maps because its ice and not land. And for some reason they include the ice around antarctica. But if you look on google earth the top and bottom of the world are covered in ice.

And about south america, how could an entire continent move without causing any change other than on the map. The connection to north america would have to change which would end up changing the borders of nations and the outcomes of wars, etc. as geography plays a big part in conflicts. That would seriously affect the way the world is. If you were hopping between universes you would not just notice a few small changes, the name and history of the country you're in could possibly change, due to the butterfly effect of having a different shaped continent. It makes sense that people would think north and south america are on top of eachother, but reality doesnt conform to our preconceptions.

@Tessalator Basically what you're saying is the same mandela effect happened to you too but because your knowledge of the map wasn't very clear you are capable of chalking it up to bad memory, you're not the first person to tell me that, problem for me is i have the world map literally on my wall over my bed, i see it everyday and have the image burned into my mind, so when it changed i could instantly tell it did since the map over my bed changed from one day to the next, can't possibly be crude drawings or faulty memory, and the north pole being absent from the map is also a very obvious change, i used to think that the world was a sandwich with the buns being made of ice when looking at globes, that's gone now.

And also no one is mentioning the thing about the liver, because as i said, it changed TWICE while i was reseaching the mandela effect, that cannot possibly be false memories, it's literally impossible, completely outside of the realm of possibilities, and both times i was with another person who saw the changes just like i did, so being randomly insane for just that and literally nothing else in my life is also a ridiculous idea.

There's only one logical conclusion i came possibly come to, and it's that the universe can be strange and do weird things, i don't know why or how, but i'm sure one day we will figure it out and have a rational scientific explanation to this phenomenon, because telling thousands of people who have the same exact memories that they're just randomly making up false memories is not rational in any way shape or form, but merely people trying to be rational and going for whatever doesn't go against their pre-conceived beliefs about reality.

@BxPanda7 I’d say anyone who’s experienced some form of Mandela Effect or deja vu look into Quantum Suicide Theory, hard to explain here but that’s the only way I can reconcile some of the more minute Mandela Effect stuff.

@BxPanda7 As this video explains, we misremember this stuff in the same way for the same reasons. Like people misremembering 'stain' as 'stein' due to that being a more common name, or 'froot' as 'fruit' because we all normally spell it 'fruit' etc.

@BxPanda7 The South America one is the only one I really noticed. I was so sure that South America was much much more straight down below N America rather than being skewed to one side. But I'm assuming it's just due to faulty memory and crude drawings of maps and just getting the 'general impression' that S America is underneath central and North America on a map. I really do think these are memory distortions and it's only recently people have been able to share the common memory distortions with each other through social media etc.

What other memories of a “different earth” do you have?

What other memories of a “different earth” do you have?

@Pan-Athens So one day i wake up with totally random but very clear memories of a totally different world, something i actually pay attention to regularly, and when i ask the people around me i get many telling me they remember the exact same thing, then go search on internet and find multiple threads about people saying the exact same thing, but i'm supposed to believe i just randomly have a case of bad memory ?<br>That makes absolutely no sense.

@Pan-Athens So one day i wake up with totally random but very clear memories of a totally different world, something i actually pay attention to regularly, and when i ask the people around me i get many telling me they remember the exact same thing, then go search on internet and find multiple threads about people saying the exact same thing, but i'm supposed to believe i just randomly have a case of bad memory ?
That makes absolutely no sense.

@BxPanda7 yep that's definitely the only valid theory that makes sense

@BxPanda7 yep that's definitely the only valid theory that makes sense

@Komið So you think thousands of unrelated people from all around the world suddenly claiming the same thing is just people misremembering stuff ?
How does that even remotely make sense ?
Not to mention i remember these things perfectly well and clearly, so misremembering stuff makes absolutely no sense and is not a more rational explanation at all.
The only valid theory is that there are still things we just don't understand about our universe and that some things we >>>assume<<< are impossible, are indeed possible.

@Eilocke Looked it up right after the comment, you’re right. wonder how many other people confused them?

@Eilocke Looked it up right after the comment, you’re right. wonder how many other people confused them?

@BxPanda7 if you genuinely think it's more likely that you were snapped into a different universe/timeline than it is that you and your family just misremembered stuff then idk what to tell you, sis.

@BxPanda7 that's insane.. thanks for telling, really compelling stuff

@BxPanda7 that's insane.. thanks for telling, really compelling stuff

@BxPanda7 Your memories are false.

Humans are social creatures controlled by flawed pink meat things. These pink meat things are really bad at remembering and due to us being social creatures we often trust those (and adopt) the memories of our friends/family. It only takes one of you to have a blurry memory that you then fill in the gaps on, to then spread this idea convincingly towards your family and they will also agree and adopt those same memories.

For example if I asked you "What shape is the earth?". You would reply sphere (hopefully) because you trust and adopt the memories and ideas of people you know, you wouldn't do 10,000 calculations on the spot to determine the shape of the earth all you would do is remember it.

and do you wanna know how easy making false memories is? Well here we go. Two weeks ago on a Tuesday you were eating cereal for breakfast but the milk you got was tasting a bit funny, so you checked the date but it was still before its best by so you kept eating. If you were paying attention you would have made a false memory in your brain about that scenario playing out, all you need now is to be convinced that that memory is true to then spread it along to your family members if you so choose.

obviously this as worked all on a hypothetical because I know nothing about your situation but I do know that you are human and humans have terrible memory, so I am very certain that the possibility that you have false memories is immeasurably higher than the chance of parallel universes or whatever.

Because if your memory is good enough for you to be sure that none of them are false then it should be easy to tell me how many times you took a breath during the day 2014/06/09, and because I know you cant do that you obviously don't have a good enough memory to be above false ones.

@Komið Most of my close family remembers the same things... Did we all just suddenly start misremembering the exact same things for no reason ?<br>Statistically, that's extremely unlikely, so yes, it's much more likely that something weird that we don't yet understand happened. Also me and my family/close friends are not the only people who seem to be affected by those mandela effects, there are people all around the world with the exact same memories, so again, statistically speaking, misremembering is the least likely option.

@Komið Most of my close family remembers the same things... Did we all just suddenly start misremembering the exact same things for no reason ?
Statistically, that's extremely unlikely, so yes, it's much more likely that something weird that we don't yet understand happened. Also me and my family/close friends are not the only people who seem to be affected by those mandela effects, there are people all around the world with the exact same memories, so again, statistically speaking, misremembering is the least likely option.

@BxPanda7 union Jack was asymmetrical since I could remember learning it, in 1998 when I had a British Flag shirt in middle school. I worked with my mom at a British supermarket and tearoom, so I learned alot about it before I was old. I remember memorizing which direction the fat stripes and thin stripes were supposed to face in the big X.

I somehow remember seeing the cornucopia shape but I also remember just thr fruit. Weird.

I somehow remember seeing the cornucopia shape but I also remember just thr fruit. Weird.

I 100% remember being in the Commissary on Fort Benning, seeing the Fruit of the Loom logo and asking my parents what the brown thing was

I 100% remember being in the Commissary on Fort Benning, seeing the Fruit of the Loom logo and asking my parents what the brown thing was

@BxPanda7 just....... Statistically.... What do you think is more likely?  That you literally hopped into a different timeline or that you just misremembered something

Doing dues and glitches on pay to win servers to get mandellarized

Doing dues and glitches on pay to win servers to get mandellarized

He does mention the leaves used to be brown.

He does mention the leaves used to be brown.

Damn i get recommended of madela effect videos every now and then and i get recommended to you in the mean time and find you in comments of random videos...

@Hedged-Valley south america became south-east america completely distorting central america, north pole used to be a solid land mass like south pole, whole earth is smaller no idea by how much,  Australia used to be MUCH further away from Indonesia and didn't have a square indentation on it's northern side, Sicily was further away from Italy, Finland had allot less water bodies, Japan was further east and Russia gained allot of random land masses.

Also a random flying saucer shaped Temple that looks like a CPU from the top appeared near Bangkok and is supposedly a big worship site, didn't exist when i was there a couple years ago, would have deffo visited that instead of the boring ass temples i did see

The Union Jack used to be symmetrical.

The shape of our liver changed TWICE, first it became thin and elongated, then after a few days it changed again, reverting almost to it's initial state just now it looks like it's made up of 2 different parts.

In the YMCA music video there's a 6th dude that wasn't there (military costume) and they no longer do the YMCA dance with their arms.

Those are all 100% without the shadow of a doubt real mandela effects that couldn't possibly be me just misremembering stuff, especially the position of south america, every time i see a map it still hits me like a brick to the face because of how big of a change it is.
I wish i knew why or how this could happen, but as much as i researched it, there is no rational explanation for it except for the multiverse theory, everything else is crazy conspiracy theories with no evidence whatsoever, and even if it is indeed because of a multiverse, it still doesn't explain why things would change in the first place, and why only for some people and not everyone.
The only thing i know for certain is that it's not just bad memory, that would be even more insane because of how many people report the exact same memories, we'd have to all be insane in just the exact same way for that to happen, and that makes no sense.

@Quantum Puddles Why would you say something so hilarious.

@Quantum Puddles Why would you say something so hilarious.

@BxPanda7 give me some examples what things have changed for you?

@BxPanda7 give me some examples what things have changed for you?

Mandela effect does not affect everyone which is why a consensus will never be attained, on one side you have people who remember things differently and know for a fact their memory isn't false, on the other side you have non-affected people calling us crazy because they just aren't affected so they don't have the same memory.<br>These logo's and random things changing are just scraping the surface tho, for me i spent 20 years of my life on one version of earth, and the last 3 on a totally different one. Still don't know why it changed tho, and impossible that it's just false memories, literally impossible, especially since most of my family remembers the same earth i do. Not all tho, which is why it's so difficult for the unaffected people to understand what we're going trough.

Mandela effect does not affect everyone which is why a consensus will never be attained, on one side you have people who remember things differently and know for a fact their memory isn't false, on the other side you have non-affected people calling us crazy because they just aren't affected so they don't have the same memory.
These logo's and random things changing are just scraping the surface tho, for me i spent 20 years of my life on one version of earth, and the last 3 on a totally different one. Still don't know why it changed tho, and impossible that it's just false memories, literally impossible, especially since most of my family remembers the same earth i do. Not all tho, which is why it's so difficult for the unaffected people to understand what we're going trough.


When I was reading Hunger Games and the cornucopia was mentioned I imagined it just like the one on Fruit of the Loom, because that was the only reference for cornucopia that I had.


I'm from Eastern-Europe and I remember the cornucopia aswell. I've learned what a basket of plenty was thanks to the logo. Seeing the Fruit of the Loom logo on only the cheapest, worst quality T-shirts, I'm pretty sure now it's an off brand thing.


I remember being surprised the first time I actually saw clothing with the logo on it and it didn't have a cornucopia, but I have no memory whatosever of actually seeing it on anything in person.

this may be the answer to the problem, because it means that my impression of the logo came from casual exposure to media and not the brand itself, and as you noted, the logo had been parodied with a cornucopia as early as the '70s, which predates me.


A loom is a piece of textile manufacturing equipment.

Fruit of the loom should have been 2 oranges & a banana but I guess an apple & grapes fit the bill as well.
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