The confrontation with NCommander left a bad taste. To me NC has done a quality tech-journalistic inquiry, whether you agree with conclusions or not, the way they arrived at them is well substantiated and verifiable.
2:32 info-zip was first released in early 90s. It was open source permissively licensed available in Pascal and C and EVERYONE was using it. Notably, it's not the original implementation of Zip, that belongs to PKZip. So i think "wrote zip folder code" is applicable because the actual unzip implementation was a solved problem, and the key innovation was specifically hooking into Explorer's filesystem handling.
I don't actually mind the vertical watermark thing, by all reason it could have been as he remembers it and then could have eventually shipped a different implementation. Rendering to an offscreen context has some pitfalls that it will sometimes break in adventurous ways, particularly colour manipulations can have weird adverse effects and ClearType interference, i can see why it was replaced with a bitmap asset.
4:30 memory fragmentation is a REAL THING and the prime cause of web browser out-of-memory crashes on 32-bit systems, but also affects numerous videogames and other software, it concerns a pattern of allocations which creates a growing pool of unusable wasted memory in between prior allocations. Of course the utility does nothing to combat it, it just wastes memory forcing the system to swap out, and then releases its memory. It can be seen as helpful as when you're launching something memory hungry, the initial experience can be substantially more pleasant than otherwise, since the IO pressure of loading in and swapping out no longer end up fighting with each other, which is quite relevant when you're dealing with a seek-limited hard disk. Website promise of what it does is misleading.
@@OhhCrapGuy "C didn't have the ++ operator, that was introduced in C++, hence the name" is one of the dumbest and funniest things I've ever heard. Good example.
Recently, in his video on crowd strike, he actually described userspace code as running in Ring 1, which is absolutely does not. Userland is Ring 3. I know for a lot of people, even some userspace developers, the ring system will be news, but someone who wants to talk from authority on how to operating systems work would NOT get that wrong.
It would be like someone saying "C didn't have the ++ operator, that was introduced in C++, hence the name."
If you aren't a programmer, that might seem reasonable. If you are a programmer, that person just outed themselves as not being a programmer.
@@Kwpolska And now with 7zip support, it doesn't even report progress on the decompression until it's actually done, so you sit there wondering if it locked up or not.
@@Kwpolska I was writing something really long, but my opinion boils down to that 7zip is definitely faster, partly because explorer as a whole has aged pretty poorly in terms of optimization (I think this because code of the zip implementation hasn't changed since 2000, and it was fast back then), and partly because 7zip is just really good software.
This reply contains false information. @GoogleDoesEvil pointed out below that the zip code was replaced in windows 11.
There exist no publicly known Windows NT builds with the automatically generated start menu banner. Dave tried to defend his BS by talking about early beta builds, but they have a bitmap too. His video makes it sound as if millions of people were using "his" start menu, and he shows screenshots of the final NT4 build. In reality, his code was so bad that it never shipped in any known releases (and NT4 was a short project that only switched the shell).
The zip folders thing... He integrated a crap library with Explorer. Every time I accidentally use Dave's zip folders instead of 7zip, it's slow and annoying. Not much to be proud of.
yes. certain tools whose offshoots are still brazenly marketed today actually had TRUE value back in the days, simply because of fundamental difference like 16 vs 32 vs 64 bit arch or other similar fundamental workings of computers back then. so at least in this regard it is not apropriate to come to quick judgements.
@@Endermanchthe "stupid stuff" was accusing Linus Torvalds of bundling binary blobs in the Linux kernel. that's a blatant violation of the GPL and we would've known by now.
@@SianaGearz I was aware of this, but didn't want to include in the video. I think it's unrelated to the subject. There's another episode where he claimed some stupid stuff about Linux, it's available on Reddit.
@@walllable Dave and NC brought out videos about Space Cadet Pinball around the same time. Dave claims there's no 64-bit pinball for reason... i forget. Raymond Chen says he remembers that it was buggy and didn't work properly. NC found a version which is 64-bit native and actually DOES work properly, and he experimented with his own machine code level fixes for the issues.
Then Dave accused NC of stirring up drama and being clickbait, which is as far as i see it completely uncalled for.
@@Bruno_Knoxx discussing compensation can result in hurt feelings. but I'd rather people get fair treatment than worry too much about their temporarily hurt feelings. sometimes you gotta crack an egg to make an omelette. of course if all the people involved know they work at a place that does unequal treatment of employees, and the employees aren't going to band together to try to demand fixes for it, then it'd just be rubbing salt in the wound. this is why some nordic countries require compensation to be publicly available information (with some limitations, but much fewer than in other countries). they have a LOT of trust built into their society, though, so it wouldn't work nearly as well in a lot of other countries. not without a ton of social change first.
This whole "don't ask salary" stuff is something made by corporates to avoid paying equal salaries. Buuuuuuuut, its something good too, not totally evil. That was just my 2 cents; enjoy the meme ;)
@@Barnacules Bro you have nothing to add to this, I remember you going apeshit on youtube in 2016. You had the worst case of the TDS I've ever seen from a tech channel lmao.
@ns3421thelocomotives Is he really? Or is it a matter of visibility, Microsoft does a lot out in the open for how exposed everything they do is. They're all like this however, didn't Facebook have rootkits on people's phones to track what they were searching on Google and stuff? They're taking the term benign programmer term "hacker" too literally imo lol When i re-watch Pirates of Silicon Valley nowadays, when Jobs talks about how his employees are pirates, nowadays i imagine they're installing rootkits on my machines and trying to steal my search and activity data.
@@yoymate6316 I mean, I want to accomplish things in life. Sure, I'm not rich or anything, but I have a lot of fun projects and challenges to work on. And often enough, I even get to make people's lives better.
Money is a terrible way for the value of your life. I mean, can you imagine literally any other endeavor in which a single scalar value would be a smart way to measure a system?
@@ArmelM101 Especially considering how much other old school MS alumni have achieved after retiring. Pretty sure this guy worked there around the same time as Gabe Newell.
Well, looking how i windows look today, im not suprise, than old employee wanna part od cake for that, someone who buy this fake software is proof than everyone can use computer, not everyone should.
Maybe to proof a point to Microsoft, that they didn't treat customers and security seciously? Remember those days when people occupied Microsoft to return their copies of Windows?
A lot of us really liked Dave’s content before discovering something off about him. Even before this video we parted ways with each other after following eachother for a long time since we both came from Microsoft to YouTube. But he was defending Elon Musk doing illegal things to make money and getting away with it saying it should be celebrated that he’s smart enough to game the system. That instantly raised a bunch of red flags.
@@guestc142 He seems to be actively in defense of the behavior. He doesn't seem like he's really learned or moved on from it or did right by people in any way in compensation for the past. He just denies there's any problem at all.
@@guestc142 he doesn’t seem to, however a number of his windows development tales were found to be either heavy embellishments or outright lies, soooo…
You can’t be blamed, I even liked the guy until he defended Elon Musk for committing actual crimes celebrating him making money by breaking the legal system. Now I get why he took that stance.
@@RanEncounter 1. HE. ITS A HE NOT A THEY YOU CAN HEAR HIS VOICE MF 2 mf i would like you to run malware on a pc connected on your home wifi it can virus all devices connected on your home wifi
@@RanEncounteri think i said this wrong: point is, everytime ur subbed to a youtuber and watch them often, boom they get exposed for liking kids or something else
You can trust me, because I haven’t made a video in 3 years other than one weekly live stream 😂 So my fame level has dropped below the untrustworthiness sell your soul bar 😆
Dave Plummer in 1996: Let's acquire people's trust! Dave Plummer in 2003: Now that I have everybody's trust, it is time to scam everyone! Dave Plummer in 2007: *gets sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars* Dave Plummer afterwards: Let's forget stuff like this was even real
Funny how he writes a book about the secrets of how he became a millionaire while being on the spectrum and doesn’t include the part about running a scam that made millions after leaving Microsoft and paying out a settlement of hundreds of thousands of dollars and still having enough to retire for life 🤔 Seems like an important part of the story if you ask me. I wonder if he went into other scams like crypto and nft, etc that we just don’t know about yet. Usually when people are okay with scamming they will keep doing it so long as they make more money than they have to pay out when caught.
Great job tracking all this down. Small edit here: These pieces of malware also had ads that popped up. I cleaned computers during this era and we used "immunization" or host file blocks and you didn't see the extra ads that popped up because the domains no longer serve those ads.
Back in those days, there were a few companies, one of them intellisense, which aimed at injecting ads directly into the text of a web page. By searchnig for keywords in the text, then make those keywords clickable with reference to ad sites. We used to fix this problem using the HOST file, and my thinking here is, this is not something any windows user even today has a clue how to do, and so, it would be ligitimate to write a program which referenced those URLS to 0.0.0.0 or something automatically, just for the sake of avoiding this trash. Since I don't know how Daves program worked, this is how I assumed they worked, and OP too it seems, that would had been legitimate. Becausae those injected ads were absolutely scams. Very intrusive. The equivalent of today is an ad blocker, although back then they were directly in the text which was and is illegal, at least in my country, since there was no way anyone could see it was ads.
@@SianaGearz brief summary: there were at least 3 major creators on YouTube in the last couple of months who got accused (with relatively strong evidence) of abusive behaviour against their partners, among many other things: AnniTheDuck, Unge and Mois. The former two have taken a break (though Anni is already back), Mois is currently on the run, probably due to his alleged actions being relevant to the legal system.
Some people never change. It would have been different had he just come clean, been honest about everything, and just said something like "Yeah... I'm not proud of that." People respect honesty, but he doesn't seem to see an issue...
Back then the world needed champions to address the tsunami of Windows shortcomings and rather than wear a white hat he wore a black hat to make money on the deal. With his insider knowledge, he could have made a difference. He chose enrichment instead. Sad.
Yeah if it was clear he learned better and changed his ways and acted better it'd be fine. Not great because he's still yknow, benefiting in his lifestyle and stability by what he did, but better than he's doing.
actually, memory defragmentation is important for multiple reasons: * external fragmentation results in lower probability of being able to allocate large pages (to solve this memory compacting is enough), * if a large chunk is physically made contiguous (by defragmenting it) can mean being able to replace a 1024 4kB pages with a single 4MB page, with the result that the TLB is much better used, as it will only need a single entry for all that ram. * only certain ranges of the physical address space can be used for dma, so being able to relocate pages can free those valuable pages for better usage when required. * locally adjacent ram is read faster because it has higher chances of being predicted for caching.
I'm not aware if that tool defragmented the ram or was only snake oil, but in any case, newer operating systems already come with at least memory compactors
@@jakobstengard3672 You can't step in and defragment the heap inside a program. That's inside the virtual memory space of the program itself.
But step back to Win95/Win98 and you can ask the OS to defragment the physical memory assigned to the program.
Next thing - you say you allocate a large block that the program then makes use of. Nope. The program allocates an initial amount of RAM for the heap. When the program tries to allocate then malloc() [for a C program] tries to find free memory in the heap. If there is no free space large enough, then malloc() will force an OS call to request more memory to extend the heap size. So a long-running program with a memory leak can keep requesting more and more memory from the OS. And this creates fragmentation for the internal structures of the OS too.
For newer Windows versions, a long-running program that is properly releasing heap data can call the Win32 API HeapCompact() to let the OS see if it can reclaim heap memory no longer used.
For Win95 and Win98, that wasn't designed with secure process isolation, I'm pretty sure you had lots of options to force the OS to trig different optimizations that are not relevant today.
This post seems to trigger quite a lot of malice assumptions, based on people forgetting the big difference between now and 25 years ago.
@@Z3rgatul You are thinking about the use of paged memory, where the virtual me.ory can be contiguous while the physical memory was not. But 25 years ago, most people did not run NT or Win2k. And move to Win95/Win98 and they had serious issues with memory allocations.
But there is another issue - the processor has a small cache to lookup and translate from virtual page to physical address. If your page didn't fit in this TLB cache, then extra work is needed to figure out the translation.
So you indirectly have fragmentation of the paging table data too.
Newer x86 processors can make use of multiple page sizes. So not just 4 kB page sizes but up to 1 GB pages. This helps keeping down the number of page mappings.
@@johnsimon8457It was relevant for a 25 year old Windows installation - which was what the intended customers did run.
And yes - it did a difference. How big, would depend on OS version, amount of RAM and actual usage patterns. So it was the kind of program where "try for free for x weeks" would be relevant - not all people would expect any meaningful improvement.
I only had Win95, Win98 on some laptops. On my desktop machines with Win NT 4 or Win2k with max RAM the motherboard supported, the program did not make a difference.
Normally you don’t allocate small pieces of ram, you allocate a big chunk and then you split that up inside the application.
No other program can go in and mess around with another programs memmory except the kernel. So you need to be atleast a driver to do that.
What would it actually take to compact the ram for a process?
You would stop the process, copy memmory around on the OS level, and then resume the process. And then you have not defragmented anything inside the menmory of that process, you have only moved like, pages togheter or similar, with very little impact on the performance.
And the OS might do this when swapping in and out apps. So maybe Dave just triggered a swap, buy allocating a bunch of ram and then freeing it.
@@blarghblargh I see. Now I also think it was snake oil. Doing proper memory defragmentation will require very complex algorithm to be implemented, and you need kernel driver to do the job. Comparing to other Dave's software this seems like impossible task.
@@Z3rgatul 1. this was windows 95. never underestimate how awful the 9x kernel series was. hence why they ditched it for NT.
2. the program's virtual address space can also be fragmented. I am not super comfortable and familiar with how the TLB works (yet), but I think the fragmentation problem existed at two levels, and the OS probably gets around that problem by having fixed page sizes, and doing the virtualization as you described.
no idea what the program itself did tho. I suspect either snake oil, or working around easy kernel level problems. I really doubt it was going to reach into the virtual address space of a program and do anything about its fragmentation. it would have to find and rewrite pointers to be able to do that, and that sounds extremely slow and error prone unless it's in some controlled runtime/virtual machine type scenario.
"external fragmentation results in lower probability of being able to allocate large pages" Isn't OS kernel smart enough to be able to allocate "contiguous" chunk of memory from the user space process perspective, but fragmented on the physical level?
Yeah this could use a few more up votes. I could see if he handed the reigns over the software company they doctored it up more than he originally set things up in the early 90s
Cool, that’s a better explanation than mine. Still this is a job for the OS and not some 3rd party utility. On the other hand this is windows 95 and not NT
In protected mode memory fragmentation is a thing that can slow down. As an example whereas the user mode thinks $0100 cames after $00FF, in physical memory that might be in a completely other place inside the memory.
While I believe that your past shouldn't define you, what actions you take to fix your past mistakes should. I'm glad that he has gotten away from scamming people, but he hasn't taken any actions to acknowledge his mistakes, which is sad. He seemed like a cool guy.
@@iamnoname-a1 when does it come up? And every time?
Do you do that for every transgression in your life? When you meet a person, you shake their hand and then start apologizing for all the wrong things you've done decades ago?
@@sirtra It's more like if this comes up, make mention of what happened and involvement with it. Someone that is contrite in their past mistakes and actions, should be willing to show that they have learned from them and how they wronged others.
@@brookedoesstuff what action would be sufficient and who decides this? At what point can Dave move on from his past transgressions? When everyone in the world says so?
Everything in this video was already litigated over a decade ago and court orders issued.
Nobody is perfect but demanding someone "take action" beyond the court order tells me more about you than him.
@@Barnacules you never know... if techlead even after getting called out by every channel under the sun still tries to take down mutahar's video about him (and failing), it would be too far fetched that dave might try (and hopefully fail)
I don’t think Dave is dumb enough to strike this video knowing full well that it will just lead to it being invested further by even bigger channels like CoffeeZilla. But, if he’s scared about this getting out he might do it out of desperation. Wouldn’t be the first time we’ve seen it happen. Thankfully nothing in this video was outside of fair use and everything said was backed with public evidence available through Wayback machine. So any strike would be overturned in appeal.
@@JustPyroYT Same mate. Watch as he'll give his judgement on this video at some point by filing false DMCA claim to suppress the information presented here, as many true-nature disgusting YouTuber does. So, don't forget to download this video and feel free to reupload in case this video get taken down.
Memory fragmentation is important: "Memory fragmentation is when the sum of the available space in a memory heap is large enough to satisfy a memory allocation request but the size of any individual fragment (or contiguous fragments) is too small to satisfy that memory allocation request."
Thanks for covering this. I mentioned this topic years ago on various forums and in YouTube comments, and I got eviscerated by Dave fanboys. They buried their heads in the sand and made lame excuses, so I moved on. Yet here you present everything very well—much better than I did. Well done, and keep up the great content! 👍
@@Barnacules I was quite doubtful that dave even ran that site until I saw the court documents on screen. It would be nice to get a comment from him regarding it but it seems he's too busy dodging questions. Excellent evidence nonetheless.
He did a great job showing the evidence in this video. It will be harder for Dave’s fanboys to explain it away. However, some will try, they always do. The ones that think if they hang in while everyone else goes away Dave will finally give them attention. I’ve seen it happen many times.
They should cover Adobe for that. CC injects services that run on the machine, and you can't go through normal methods to uninstall Creative Cloud fully. Not related, just interesting that they've been able to get away with this stuff and nobody bats an eye, and that the FTC is coming at them over their cancelation stuff, but aren't taking other things like that into account
I have a weird feeling that this whole "registry cleaner" works almost exactly like ccleaner, so even on a fresh installation of Windows it still "looks" for problems and can find errors in the registry, even if there shouldn't be any.
@@YS_ProductionExcept the junk is literally mostly empty keys that are taking up maybe 1-2 bytes of space. You aren't losing anything of value. The point is, it's not dangerous, an error, will cause performance problems, or something you need to fix. In fact, it's probably perfectly normal. It would have been better to check these keys and make sure they weren't made up by the program itself.
I think any registry cleaner can find stuff on a fresh windows install. But not every registry cleaner will scare you into buying it or another software. Also some don't trust ccleaner either.
@@Incognitiv never used any registry cleaner myself and probably never will, but let's not be naive and think windows doesn't have junk in its registry right off the bat
Dave always triggered something suspicious in me... but I was willing to chalk it up to 20+ years of misgivings about M$ and try to separate the man from the company (he was a Dev and not responsible for the questionable things that the company did)... turns out I need to trust my Spidey sense
@@thepuzzlemaster64 If he mentioned others who helped develop relevant products more often, his channel would actually be interesting. Instead he just glosses over "other people helped" etc.
@@NitroDubzzz that is true through. at least for back then. source code was leaked in windows and if anything like that was found it would've made news
@@thepuzzlemaster64I think the not mentioning others is mostly for when they don’t want to be mentioned (and from fear of legal issues as he probably learned with SoftwareOnline), because he does have other people on his channel and interview them every while.
@@klingoncowboy4 I mean, let's not go praising bryan lunduke of all people as someone better than this guy. You don't need to take another cow turd to avoid a cow turd.
@@klingoncowboy4 Oh yeah, Bryan Lunduke is heaps better. He's the type of guy that even though I don't always agree with his opinions, he still comes off as genuine and overall a nice dude to hang-out with.
Speaking-of, a great video to compare the difference between Bryan Lunduke, and Dave Plummer is the open-source DOS 4.0 videos.
Bryan Lunduke's video talks about the oddities of the repo with how broken some of the files are, and how they don't mention which version of DOS 4.0 was released to Github since it doesn't quite match-up with the retail copy, and so on.
Meanwhile in Dave Plummer's video about it, he was able to compile it somehow through massive workarounds that are never shown, talks about his time developing part of it, and praises Microsoft for putting it out there for the public (even though no one can compile it).
You'd think a developer like Dave Plummer would be more critical about Microsoft's little blunders, but he just pretends they don't exist. Every time. That was the first massive red flag for me
@@thepuzzlemaster64 Yeah I prefer Bryan Lunduke for stories Y2K era Microsoft... he wasn't in Windows Dev ofc... and as with anyone I don't just beleive him uncritically. But he as you say he includes negative and positive moments as moments that don't always make him look the best.
Had a similar Spidey sense, but it was mostly how he acted. He felt a little too positive, a little too calm, a little too humble. There was still bits and pieces of his info that felt accurate, but things never 100% added-up. Some info didn't make sense, he'd always brush-off the negative stuff like it wasn't a big deal, and he'd try to avoid mentioning anyone else that should have worked with him (like the actual guys who made the original 3D Space Cadet pinball). It was always "me, me, me" with him.
Never really subbed to him because of that. I'd still watch a handful of his videos, but only the ones where other people covered the same topic, or if I was familiar enough with the topic. Even then it was just with a grain of salt, and as a curiosity more than anything.
@mrfoxesite And as such he may be out for revenge even if it means going after people unrelated to his channel and have been in good legal standing for over 18 years.
And of course Enderman's intro is still an Enderman obviously having sex wirh a pumpkin.
@@soundspark YouTube doesn't get involved in DMCA, DMCA is a legal problem between two individuals. YouTube will temporarily take the video down, but if the other person decides to counter the claim at this point YouTube will do whatever the court decides.
@@hedwig7s if a strike happens he's basically digging his own grave. With the way the video is designed enderman could easily counter the claim and win making it even worse for him.
@@hedwig7scorrect, with the people already aware of this video the second he strikes it then the water is chummed for someone like coffeezilla to get involved. And something tells me Dave wouldn’t want people looking into his crypto wallets with a history of doing stuff like this. 😆
Speaking of misinformation, Dave stated that Linus Torvalds includes a binary blob in the Linux kernel that nobody has access to the source for. We know there are various closed source blobs in Linux drivers but Dave's assertion here is completely false: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqWjq2SdzpI&lc=UgwFYyE8lw0hQzBQj154AaABAg
@@o0Donuts0o Yeah lets just forget about regcleaner and him being sued for selling malware. The memturbo addressed a real thing! So it must be legit! Just like regcleaner addresses a real thing, so it must be legit! You can also ignore all the comments about this being pinned and liked by the video author. Sounds like Enderman is trying to hide this because of his blind hatred right? I must be to the left of the bell curve and all those court documents, quotes from Dave's book, and live demonstrations of the software with credits to Dave's company website are just all a conspiracy
@@o0Donuts0o I'm a bit interested in how some viewers calls this journalism, while there is lots of snickering in the video instead of cool, calm and collected neutral reporting. Extra interesting given a large number of factual errors.
From a factual standpoint, I think Dave's programs was too aggressive about showing popup warnings. And implied way too big danger levels. And the actual court documents also shows that there was auto-selected options on the purchase forms - I don't like the automatic subscription etc some vendors tries to trick people into buying by preselected checkboxes.
This could have been a good video if it had focused on that. Instead, it contains a huge amount of factual errors about the programs, explicitly claiming the programs are scams by a video creator that just do not have the knowledge to discuss that subject.
One specific thing the court complained about is that the InternetShield did not explicitly test to access the over 2000 listed bad web sites. The scan did check the list of blocked sites inside InternetExplorer - so it would warn even if the user had blocked the sites by other means. The court document specifically mentioned the host file.
I'm not sure if there is a way to do a full scan as in try actual Internet accesses to the sites. It needs to be done by the IE engine. And it's specifically because the IE engine was so vulnerable that you do not want a drive by shooting by having IE connect to one of the bad sites. IE really was the most fragile and dangerous web browser, and a single one-pixel bad link from a page to a hostile site could have IE mauled. This was a time when we really did have to be very afraid of IE accessing a bad link.
Another interesting aspect about the court document is about uninstalling everything. Neither the complaint nor the judgement mentions what was left. But it would be a sad day for demo software which can do x file recoveries/cleanups/fixes if the uninstall must remove absolutely everything. That allows the user to uninstall and reinstall an infinite number of times to get around any "max x repairs in free version".
With today's sneaky inclusion of serial numbers in the processor, a backend server could be used to check if that serial number has been seen before. But "only works with Internet access" doesn't feels like an improvement. That's how we get software that stops working if the seller closes down.
@@perwestermark8920 Ah yes but your reasonable and logical response will not be adequate. The problem is that this type of channel only exists to create gossip and attract the type of mindless reactionaries who are addicted to being outraged. You could point out extremely technical information but that will not be enough because this audience of people who solely exist on the left hand side of the bell curve only want one thing. To be told what to think and what to believe.
There is a concept known as memory handles. It's a dual-indirection where the handle points to an OS-owned pointer that points to the memory block.
The OS can pause the program, move around all memory blocks - defragment - and update the second-level pointer.
The next time the program does a memory access, it can still use the same handle. But the indirection will now point to a different physical address.
Windows have special function calls to demand that a memory block must be locked. That's needed in case you may do DMA transfers in which case the hardware DMA would not understand about any defragment suddenly moving the buffer.
And you may also need to lock blocks in the lowest MB of RAM, because that memory might be shared with some old-school DOS driver/application.
So memory defragmentation is a very valid thing for situations where you don't have paged memory allocated to the running programs. We can't take Windows 10/11 experiences from 2024 and apply to 20-25 year old Windows installations.
@@vimicito programmers aren't always great at their jobs, and I'm sure it happened plenty ;) The idea is that when you allocate data using GlobalAlloc and the moveable flag is specified, you're returned an HGLOBAL that you can pass to GlobalLock to get a pointer to the memory you allocated. And once you're done with the memory (for now), then you GlobalUnlock it and the memory is free to be moved around by the memory manager. But yeah if you kept a copy of that pointer from before you'll have a bad time
Now that you mention it, it’s kind of surprising that everything wouldn’t segfault immediately after that “defragmentation”… I guess we’re both aware what that implies. Sure, dynamic memory is an abstraction from physical memory (that enables swapping), but still… I wouldn’t be confident about it doing anything at all.
16-bit windows would actually sort of defragment memory, since it was so scarce and more allocations increased the risk of allocation failures. You would have to make sure not to keep any stale pointers to unlocked global memory, otherwise you'd have problems.
That sucks. Dave looked a really sweet guy and he do give a nice vibe on his videos, but looking at this is really sad. I really hoped he addressed this better, but it seems he do not take responsibility over his scam endeavors. D:
Apparently this was "public" on reddit over 3 years ago. Was in a thread about Dave Plummer too, so it has been out there for a while. But clearly that didn't get enough exposure, hopefully this video changes that.
Let's not forget that he literally said he thinks Windows is better than Linux, I don't think you can trust any software dev that says that, not liking Linux is one thing (I personally don't cause I don't want to deal with all possible issues that can happen from the smallest things) but saying it's worse than Windows is a whole other thing.
In what context though? Because if you think of it from the perspective of available software, then there is no doubt that wiondows is better. But which parameters did he use? Comparing for example vista to any linux OS, then any linux OS would be better no matter what because I have never seen any linux system which wasn't 3-4 times faster than vista. So again, in what context? What parameters were used to define what "better" is?
What a fantastic video. Thank you so much for making it mate. I’ve been following Dave for about a year and been commenting on his Twitter stuff too. He seemed like an alright bloke.
But now, I’m completely disgusted by him.
I know he’s autistic, but imagine writing a book applauding yourself for being a millionaire when you managed that purely by scamming innocent people? What an horrendous individual. Has he no shame?
“Bad takes on many topics” is a pretty subjective thing though. I thought there was a little bit of rich jerk hiding in there but he generally seems cool and I’m sad watching this.
I remember seeing a reply to a comment on one of his videos that mentioned a "proprietary binary blob built into every Linux kernel that only Linus has the code to" and the only source I saw backing it up is Microsoft's Halloween documents. Weird of him to try and back up Microsoft's weird old propaganda
The b in blob already stands for binary, you can just say a blob instead of a binary blob, which is redundant. The discussion is nice, just a clarification for the unaware.
@@minneelyyyy binary blobs do exist but they are all stuff like certain device drivers (mostly peripherals like wifi cards), firmware and cpu microcode updates which manufacturers don't wanna open source or can't (IP reasons), without the binary blob you cannot run linux on most hardware. This is why linux-libre (kernel with foss components only) systems only work on a limited range of devices without something breaking.
@@zedzed3533the Linux kernel itself contains no proprietary code at all. Binary blobs occur when devices either require firmware to be loaded to them by the computer (the case with many wireless chipsets), or there is no open source driver available for a device. In the former case the required firmware would have to be acquired separately to the kernel, and in the latter, it’s unrelated, since the closed source driver wouldn’t come from the kernel, but from the manufacturer of the device.
@@timecubed basically Linux is open source that meaning you have access to the code BUT there are some parts that are not really open and only contain executable binary. there are binary blobs in the Linux kernel mostly firmware stuff but im not aware if they are owned by Linus Torvalds or not (because you know pratical reasons). There are some kernels like Linux-libre that aims to be completely free software but they come with compatibility issues. I don't think he said "that only Linus has the code to" he said "that Torvalds owns" meaning the was the one to push the binary code.
This is unfortunate but informative. He should have owned up to, made reparations, and apologized for this a long time ago. It’s too late now though. I’ve unsubscribed from him. Thank you for informing us as viewers about when we’re being conned.
Damn this really shocked me, i probably not gonna stop watching hos videos cus they are pretty interesting but im never gonna be able to look at him in the same way again
@@munastronaut8147 Yes, but it seems you're assuming he did proofreading and should have caught the error. What comes to mind: all those emails where I wrote "The document is in the attachment", proofread it, and clicked send, only to get a response "Ahem, attachment is missing" or – if I was very observent that day – to have to send an immediate "sorry forgot the attachment" followup.
People are fallible; Charity principle; Hanlon's razer; Occam's razor; Do onto others; etc. Also, without defending the things he has done, the law was served, and seems to have been adequately satisfied. He did not repeat the offense ever since, and he certainly shouldn't be made to preface every single thing he does with his complete history – that's an abhorrent thing to do (again, in cases where the offender "paid their dues"... but then again, I'm an European; and US-ican sensibilities [since most commenters are from USA] are often, frankly, not "sensible" to us).
Now, if he was giving advice on what type of company to start et cetera, then I'd might consider it a potential reason for disclosure, but only once at the start, and not every single time.
Additionally, that was 30 years ago, people change. If I can "painfully cringe" at my choices or writs from 15-20 years ago from the perspective of now (late 30s) and not be overly willing to re-live nor re-hash it, I am certain he is capable of the same. There is also the biological fact that every act of remebering - or just time itself - can change/deviate/color our memories from what factually happened; and the longer and more actively one lives, the stronger the effect (in my experience).
(Comment tone properties to apply for the whole of the above: neutral, non-emotional, conversational.)
@@cbs1710 I don't know why it got deleted, but I'll say it again
The difference here is that Joe was making a speech. An oral statement. He can't change what he just said. On the other hand, Plummer here made a website. A website that can be edited and can have changes before publishing a new version of it.
@@YaySyuI think he has had two companies. He did have one since long before he started to work at Microsoft. The 1984 is probably a correct date for the company used to sell Amiga software etc.
He probably killed off that company while working for Microsoft [somewhere after selling Microsoft the Explorer ZIP integration].
And then later started a new company - the one that made him decide to stop working for Microsoft. And I assume that's the company this video is about.
@@cbs1710The difference is that Joe Biden was making an oral statement. Websites are edited for hours at a time; putting 1984 must've been intentional.
And Joe Biden said "Putin", but meant "Zelensky". And my mother goes through all my siblings before she comes up with my name; just like granma, for reference. Point being: it's an error, not a potential case for a Hague tribunal.
@@YaySyu no, what the person is saying is that on the original site, it said SoftwareOnline was started around 1984, but then it changed to 1993 in the newer site.
Because historically software used to come in big boxes, usually with a CD or bunch of floppies. Including the "big box" or an image of it gave a sense of "trust" because the company could afford to package their software in the "big box"? Even though there is no physical box to speak of? Maybe some kind of psychological trickery.
yeah i assume most of the early MS guys are multi-millionaires (many times over) from the stock options alone. He even said he was spending 1mil per month on this adware nonsense and "sometimes it was profitable but on months that it wasn't, it was expensive burn" so he clearly had many millions to play with
The lawsuit against him by State of Washington was well-reported locally when it was happening. By any standards, it was a micro-scam. Dave Plummer is worth between $1 million and $5 million according to several online searches, I am not sure how accurate that estimate is but, that is what comes up. If correct, that indicates he is comfortable but is not jetting the Hollywood set or rubbing elbows with Bill Gates.
I believe people can change, but that's gonna have to start with him acknowledging this and apologizing, and by the looks of it, I don't know if that's gonna happen...
I've noticed that he is starting to remove comments, a comment asking him to address his past got over 100 likes and suddenly disappeared within less than 30 minutes. Hopefully his past will come back to his present and he will finally respond and acknowledge it.
"no no no, you see I didn't scammed people for this dope af garage. I've just written the task manager, the explorer, the IE, the entire OS so MS gave me a lot of money for my work"
why are you so relieved about the topic not being a pedophile expose?
you got something to hide yourself?
also what's with you and a lot of others self-censoring the word pedophile as if its a racial slur?
and if its not the former, why are you so tired of such discussions, quite frankly we need more of them because, just like people who conspire against the regular person to usurp their rights as a human, they get worse the more we leave them alone.
Bro, good english evolution! Still a lot of room to evolve, more specifially, the gradual "sliding" between accents. I had the same problem, when after a couple of minutes of speaking my accent suddenly became russian.
At around 6:00 you talk about registry edits that change certain things about the way networking works, currently people are still falling for that with fortnite regedits being sold for over $100 in some places.
4:20 ram defragmentation is a thing, because lets say you have 4k free but its fragmented, youd fail to allocate am 4k buffer even though there is 4k of ram free.
@@SianaGearz ok that doesnt make sense then, I assumed he was defragmenting the positions of virtual memory which would make sense, but you couldn’t just look at a chunk of ram and defragment it, you’d need to know the position and size of all the different buffers.
No, RAM fragmentation (more correctly heap fragmentation) is a thing, it's an inherent issue in many applications, but you can't achieve RAM defragmentation by an application on Windows, for the fragmentation that the same application hasn't itself caused. The claim of the software is untrue.
well, as long as you do have fragmentation because of gaps that are less than virtual page sizes, then yes. HOWEVER, if you do the defrag, any realloc would instantly create a new gap. Yeah I guess it's not big deal, but... there are pros and cons. Highly doubt it even made any sense, maybe on a system running for a lot of time with software that constantly allocates and deallocates a lot of memory (like more than usual apps back in the day).
That kind of worked, because it joined two or three concurrent dowloads from different parts of the file. So what this means is for example, that you have one download starting from the start of the file and another download starting from the middle of the file, and when they're both done, the file has been downloaded. But doing so simultaneously did increase download speed, it is just that it wasn't by that much. So, on a 56k modem, which had around 2-3kb/s, this would mean something like 3-4kb/s instead. Now, there was a lot more noise on the lines and other things which made download horrible already, and there is always an overhead, so the download speed was generally a lot lower like at around 3-4kb/s, which means the increase would have been even less noticeable. Notice, that an increase from 3kb/s to 4kb/s is actually an increase in speed of 33% (so the improved speed is 133%).
Actually, "fragmented" objects in memory are slower to access due to cpu caches, look up stride patterns. Though I doubt his utility would help with this at all and it was before superscaler cpus
And there I thought it was bad that I found the code to his "flaming LED strip" microcontroller on a random image board dated years back, almost verbatim.
i reccently started watching dave and now you upload this video. i'm not saying dave should be cancelled for this but it is pretty funny. if anything he should be more open about it and not hide it.
@@ngspace9829What sucks is there are probably technical things that Dave could explain to make the situation look better. Buts hes just deleting stuff
There are many Malware YT review channels, and while most do a good job, I haven't seen many go in-depth with breaking down apps using SRE tools like IDA, Binary Ninja, or Ghidra. John Hammond is a notable exception, although his focus is primarily on Java, Python, VBS, and WScripts. I've been a reverse engineer and developer for 25+ years, so I appreciate seeing the 'under the hood' analysis. This isn't criticism of other channels, but a preference for a deeper technical dive in malware analysis.
Is this really him getting exposed, this happened like 20 years ago, all the guy does these days is share his history and knowledge of old Microsoft stuff. He already lost a court case over this, again 20 years ago, i assume you've never made any bad decisions in your life? Its not like hes grifting for youtube money, his channels not very big and hes made a load of money already. Also he has talked about this before and didnt seem especially proud of his actions.
WOW! I think that was the very software that made me ditch Windows around 2001 and shift to Linux. I have been using Linux for everything since then. I still hear/see/read people say that you can't use Linux for everything, - well I do.
Interesting i guess. Most people could care less. I certainly don't. He pumps out informative content that's entertaining. Well done in compiling all this info, although I would have liked to see a deeper dive into reverse engineering what the software actually does. For instance you gloss over net turbo saying it only changes a few registry values. Mtu etc Ok, so for a non technical person, there is no value in that? Mark Russinovich and David Solomon do a really good explanation of what mem defrag scam is, and why it's such a bad idea. I dunno man, whilst i agree the business practices were definitely shady , this whole video just feels a little 'cancel culture'-ish. Will be interesting to see if Dave directly responds to this. Popcorn at the ready.
I agree there could be value in tweaking the registry values for a non-technical person, especially in the 90s. But that's pretty scummy, he could have made a blog post explaining the parameters or something along the lines being a former MS employee. Instead, he charged people for that. I intended this to be sort of a malware showcase video, so nothing overly sophisticated. I don't want to cancel Dave or banish him off the Internet, this video is intended to show a piece of information that's often overlooked. It's hard to understand in my mind, because had Dave not been caught, he'd for sure be scamming people until it stopped generating revenue, but he was, so now he has to hide it. I also am eagerly waiting for his response, because that was the primary motivation behind uploading this video.
the memory management was probably something useful in 9X era where XP did not need it. I have a m68K mac and it needed ram defrag which was build into system 7 of mac os back then.
22:05 Well the thought that InternetShield would write something to the hosts file was a well educated guess, but seeing that it didn't, I think that leaves us two options: 1. Maayybee it failed to update the hosts file because it was already in use by Notepad - bit misleading from you on that part if that was the case, but that also points out the negligence of the author of the program that they did not make the error handling on the hosts write file error, not even a simple check if the file is already in use. Perhaps they didn't think anyone would have looked at the hosts file while using their software? 2. There's another place where you would do the kind of blacklisting of the websites - the Windows firewall. Instead of blocking the domains in the hosts file, it would instead add all 20 IP addresses that the domains of 'potentially harmful websites' would resolve to in a block Outgoing and Incoming traffic rules. And if the program genuinely does what it tells you it does, I am fairly confident it would just add the firewall block rule to 20 of those IP addresses.
@@lowlymarine451 I thought I'd remembered something about that and figured that would be somewhere else to look. Not unreasonable for someone to miss some crusty old feature in windows XP. :p
It seems to be putting the "bad" sites (whatever they are) in the "Restricted Sites" zone in the IE settings. This is visible on the settings screen at 22:18.
I'm taking this in a direction where I'm thinking of him as an opportunistic person and a bit of a scumbag, but if I see a video from him in recommended, I would still watch it if it interests me. Like, the guy scammed a lot of people out of their hard-earned money, but didn't cause lasting damage and stopped doing it a long time ago. Heck, I used to believe cleaning up the registry sped up my PC so when CCleaner had that feature, I used to run it on my PC. Him trying to silence that part of history makes sense, as he doesn't want to associate with this dark part of his past. Still, not defending his actions or the fact he's not even trying to come clean about this but blocks/removes any mentions of this.
@@soundspark Forgiveness only happens if you do something deserving of forgiveness. If you keep lying about it, it shows you haven't learned, therefore you don't get forgiveness.
@@soundspark this was a lot more serious than a ticket, he actually took advantage of people, what makes it worse is he didn't need to, he was a microsoft engineer, dude wasn't starving
@@MarkHall-cf6ji He settled over 18 years ago. Does your car insurance raise your rates because you had a ticket decades ago? Or do they have a degree of forgiveness?
I can’t say I’m that surprised after getting celebrated Elon Musk making money by breaking the law and paying out less than he made from the crime overall. That made me think twice about him.
If we start digging into every mainstream streamer or influencer's past (and present!) out there... who's clean anyways? If everything else he says is true, if he worked at Microsoft for real and did everything he claims to do, I don't care if he was a scammer. I mean, that's the least I would expect from a Microsoft employee lmao. Have you seen what their company is doing now? I would be more concerned if he was doing that right now.
2:14 I just looked back at the video he made, he's left comment saying that apparently they replaced his method with the bitmap but the NTSUR release did use his method.
I'm on the fence, as a CTO how much code do you think he really wrote at this company by this point? I'm not saying he didn't have a hand in things, but rarely do management have a hand in everything that is going on.
This has been on my mind all day. I'm sure all these things are true. I guess I'm ultimately puzzled about what you hoped to achieve with this video. Like... Is it consequential? What is the expected outcome?
@@rootbeer666 you could say so, because his book misrepresents what actually happened. I don't know Dave's motive for his channel, but he's mainly playing off his clean reputation. Everyone knows him as the Windows man online. I've been ignored by Dave on Twitter for quite some time about this case, and when he responded it wasn't about it at all. He avoids talking about it, so I'm trying to squeeze out an appropriate response from him.
I have not read his book. Having been diagnosed with autism myself, I was always put off by his boasting about it, I skip those videos. It is classified as a disorder for a reason and I see no benefit in glorifying it. I don't think it's my kind of read. I'm only interested in technical subjects and quality fiction, and this sounds like neither.
What is Dave's motive for the channel and social media? Book sales? Are you trying to bring down his book?
I made this video to shine the light on his past, it sort of puts his work into context. His Autistic Millionaire book is twisting the reality, he keeps on ignoring any public talk about this. This was also made for him to respond to, ideally, with a story on how he came to be a scammer.
His videos are all scripted so the content and information is solid in most of them so long as he’s not bragging about something he created. So there is no harm in still enjoying those videos. But, don’t believe him when he tells you how he made his fortune. That money came from people that were tricked into giving it to him.
~10:00 -- RE: registry cleaner scams. I've been seeing those since I was in high school (my first windows was 3.11, so that should give you a hint about how long these have been happening).
My suspicion is that this scam goes back to the old Windows 3.11 registry which, if I recall correctly (I may not) was, if I recall a .ini file and COULD suffer issues with running out of space and having too many keys having to do with the limits of the .ini format. I think 95s unique brokenness also could have issues with too many registry folders, but NOTHING since XP has needed nor wanted a "registry cleaner". Issue is, like American politics, we have WAAAAYYYY too many people stuck in the early 90s operating off out of date technical information that didn't know WHY that original advise existed or was even needed.
ok, CPU Rocket is a slightly different scam, but same concept: the program's "magic" does impossible things to your computer -- this time to your "scheduler" -- to "speed it up". Where as Magna Ram claimed to "double your ram via compression" (it didn't, think one of it's contemporaries tried, and failed, but it only opened a popup and tweaked some basic registry settings that you could do for free).
~24:00 -- the memory doubler is a total scam and goes back, I beleive, so the SoftRam/MagnaRam PUP from windows 3.11 (which I fell for back in the 90s...) So good to know Dave fell back on the classics...
My $0.02: we all enjoy his videos. He may not be 100% correct in all he says, but he is highly entertaining. Love his computers, retro stuff, etc. He was not some murderer or what not, just a guy who found a not super clean way to make money. However, he got sued, paid a huge fine, and all this is way past statute of limitations as it happened way too freaking long ago. Internet was a wild place then, there were much worse companies who did much worse things and a lot of shareware was just like this. Heck Starbucks steals 2/3 of our $6 drinks every day just by adding ice. No one is bothered.
I’d keep watching if he made a proper video giving background info and apologized (assuming he’s allowed to talk about it legally), I’m sad, that’s one of my favorite interesting channels. Also, there are some aspects of this video that seem overblown
@@YS_Production oh yea, that man ain't evil at all.. what are we talking about? Just a million satisfied customers that purchased his software and never returned... man, how can anyone portray this guy as evil? He just sold sharewares
Some? Almost all are overblown. He may have done some questionable things in the past and may have published some inaccuracies in the present, but this video is the definition of trying hard to portray someone as evil.
Tbh if he was open about it and told this story alongside others on his channel, a lot less people would care purely because of how long ago this all happened He may very well be a changed man, and regret doing this, but hiding/defending it doesn't really make an impression of change or regret
4:31 On some old systems, it served a slightly different purpose: they could only store files as continious parts of the memory, so there were situations where one couldn't save a file that was too large although enough space had been freed up, and it was used as a workaround
Well... the thing is, if you compare to how companies function today, he is like an angel. I cannot really think of a tech company which is not scamming. What about the companies which make ink jet printers, and then fill less than what they say in the cartridge, and block you from using the cartridge even it is full after a certain date so you have to buy new ones? Not even google is honest anymore, they have gotten completely off the rails, and they were actually a very trustworthy company back then when they said Do no evil. I think more that dave might have been ahead of his time of what is happening today, the methods companies use today are absolutely infuriating. But I do agree that he should respond to the allegations. I don't tend to make decisions on people without having both sides.
I think the thing about "defragmenting" RAM probably referred to trying to make all of the free memory as contiguous as possible, so larger memory allocations wouldn't fail. It probably just allocated a bunch of memory until the OS paged everything else to disk and then freed everything it allocated when its requests to allocate more memory began to fail, leaving all of the free memory contiguous (except for anything that couldn't be paged out to disk). This could be helpful on a machine without much RAM, and calling it "defragmenting" the physical memory actually wouldn't even be misleading in that case. Saying it makes a machine feel like it was just rebooted sure is misleading though because the aforementioned defragmentation process wouldn't do anything about all of the leaked handles and other internal Windows accounting information that piles up over time.
I think there is hardware block for it in cpu (MMU - Memory Management Unit). It basically map continuous spaces to certain block sized areas in physical memory.
Memory is fully virtualised in Windows (95+) so whether it's contiguous or not doesn't matter. It is managed pagewise, applications receive it pagewise, and paging happens pagewise.
There is such a thing as memory fragmentation but it happens within individual applications within their unique address space, within their pages, you can't just rescue it externally.
Sometimes, allocations fail by bumping into commit limit. It can be often avoided by allocating memory slowly enough and allowing the system enough time to grow the pagefile, which also bumps up the limit.
It's guaranteed misleading. The run of allocating, dirtying, waiting for paging to catch up, and then releasing to clear memory will not create a contiguous empty RAM space, but it also doesn't matter, since applications have no awareness of physical RAM.
The tangible benefit of the application would be, after paging out already loaded applications, a new application which loads a lot of data from disk will load quicker and feel smoother. It is even quicker than letting the system page out while the application loads, because the disk pressure of loading in data and writing out pagefile data don't end up fighting each other and creating extra disk head seeking. Remember we didn't have SATA NCQ back then. I think by giving the application plausible sounding but untrue promises he could command a higher price for an application.
He claims to be autistic, which he may be, but one thing is for sure.. the blatant self-promotion and claiming to be the sole author of numerous parts of windows.
I mean, I am sure he contributed some code, but he comes off the same way that stolen valor scammers sound.
I've stopped watching his videos because of the constant chest puffing
20 to 25 years ago computers would more regularly slow down and become un usable so people like Dave sold scamware. I as a child went around making family and friends computers faster by removing junk programs, stopping unnecessary programs from staring on login, running disk cleanup and defraggimg hard drives and this started my IT career.
The Internet allows anyone to bring back anything from someone's past that makes them look bad. It happens a lot in politics and it happens a lot in various media industries. Spheres of influence have great power to cause detriment to others. Please take care in deciding whom to talk about and how you talk about them. Otherwise, great points.
it is often said that, good deeds are often unpaid in attention, (and vice versa.)
the archival of incriminating evidence is merely a reflection of that. it has nothing to do with ruining someone's current life, as theyve already ruined it themselves long ago, the archives just present the evidence and nothing more.
if one truly wanted to shed their bad past, then they must exert the effort necessary to do better than that, and in this case.. the person in question does not seem to be doing so.
Honestly, I got a dislike for him right away after every piece of video he did about open source software is to shill microsoft. During the XZ fiasco, all he did is make a video saying windows is better because it's controlled by microsoft and arguing about closed vs open source instead of discussing about the XZ itself and ways for the open source community to prevent it, maybe sharing his experience at MS and how to implement the good technique they used their into an open source development. But no, he just focus on the closed vs open source debate again, which honestly, as someone who both grow up with Linux and use Windows, both of them sucks and great in their own ways.
@@dashcharger24 he has said closed sources better simply because of the fact he feels that The ability to analyze for exploits is easier on open source products. And that is true! However, he also went into an explanation on why open source is great.
He gave both sides of the story in that comment, and that was mysteriously left out of this conversation...
I cannot remember him saying closed source was better? Or even MS was better? It's a few months ago, but I thought he did explain the problem with xz correctly. Opensource people don't receive money or the protection they deserve, especially when it's used by a lot of people.
That registry fixer upper I didn't think was so bad tbh, but intercepting the restart button... that's terrible. I enjoy Dave's videos these days - but this was certainly an eye-opener into his past
This guy always struck me as a fraud. He made a video talking about how there is no NSA backdoor in windows which is blatantly false. He could have just decided to not speak on it but he went out of his way to run cover for microsoft. Not a genuine guy
@@Sypakait was a different time. I still remember WIndows XP by default the firewall was disabled, because most people were worried about resources instead of security.
The real backdoor was just SMB1. Back then during the 56k modem age, you basically exposed your filesystem (and a couple processes) to the internet, if you had no firewall. God the 2000's were horrible.
FYI TCP/IP has "protocol" in its name ;-) The only thing that can be used to accuse Dave Plummer is the marketing via fear of non-technical customers. Analysing these tools to find out, what they really do, would be interesting.
Defragmentation of ram was a bit of a thing. In low memory machines, a crappy memory allocator in combination with a process that allocated lots of small ram chunks could result in your memory map being fragmented into lots of little bits that were useless. it was mostly history by the time of good memory management units built into hardware, so I'm not defending his product in the 2000s, but it was definitely a thing at one point in computing history. I have no idea if his product helped or not.
Also, net speed boosting was absolutely a thing. Often a badly configured tcp stack would be lacking things like compression turned on, and a lot of ISPs supported compression. You could see some boosts for plain text downloads like nntp, smtp and simple html pages. The claims of his product were probably nonsense other than turning on that compression flag tho.
@SianaGearz fragmentation of memory is always present when you have dynamic memory allocation. There is no way to avoid it. You can minimise the effect of it but will always be present. Memory defragmentation can be useful in some cases from pure performance point, fragmwnted memory exhaust cache memory and degrade performance so in some case it is beneficial to do memory defragmentation.
@@mrlazda By the time fragmentation has happened, it is generally too late to do anything about it. Both jemalloc and tcmalloc and various engineering advice like pools and frames as well as avoiding out-of-order operations cover fragmentation up-front avoidance rather than defragmentation.
Fundamental exception are virtual machine language runtimes which can just introspect all pointers going to something and don't give you raw pointer access; but the overhead of defragmentation would be so high that i'd struggle to name even one which actually does it.
Oh i know i can name one where it actually happens, Microsoft Basic on 8-bit computers. That one defragments. It's helped by not supporting references to begin with.
Only memory fragmentation is still a real problem. And that is why most of the long-running server aplication do not use default memory allocator. Most commonly used is jemalloc (choice of Facebook and was choice of Rust) or TCMalloc (used by Google).
One time, i had to help the teacher, because the audio in the laptop was not working. What i just did was that i uninstalled Avast and it worked again.
Curious - can you post a link to your claimed Dave Plummer mess? Because you seem to suffer extreme confirmation bias.
Just as this video where Enderman thinks TCP/IP isn't a protocol - failing to understand the difference between a protocol and how that protocol is implemented [the network stack - named after the 7 levels of the OSI model]
And thinks there is no concept like RAM fragmentation - so RAM defragmentation must be a scam. A scam existing in multiple OS and memory heap implementations, and part of computer science courses.
And fails to realize that with modems and sometimes well over a second of ping times, you can get big improvements by tweaking your stack for latency or raw transfer rate. And just because the settings is in the registry, then a tool to edit them must be a scam.
If this was a good video, then it would focus on the relevant parts. Advertising popups etc. But there was too much snickering about actually working tools. All because Enderman applied 2024 years Windows knowledge to Win95/Win98 - a big no-no. While failing to report in a neutral way - another big no-no.
4:40 "fragmentation" is applicable to RAM as well, is the issue when applications constantly allocate and deallocate different chucks of memory (especially when in the past structures like lists were recommended to store data) and depending on sizes "holes" were formed in RAM than can't be allocated, obviously not much of an issue now with tens of GB of RAM but in the past with worse OS allocators it was kind of an issue. With that said the actual benefit of such "RAM defragmenters" was highly questionable as it would require kernel level access and application locking to reorganize chunks in memory (if comparing to disk defrag) while in practice they were very fast which was impossible given the problem they try to solve.
@@WaltuhBlackjr brother exasperated or shocked invocation of the name of Christ is a colloquialism now. It’s not classy but it’s not worth getting upset about it. Let it bother you and you’ll be upset all the time
people do bad things. doesn’t negate the rest of his work. bet a fair few software devs have some history of malicious activity. don’t imitate, but not worth holding grudges
Ah man, I really looked up to him as an Autistic person in tech. Thank you for going to in depth, I appreciate the level of detail you go into in every video and thank you for sharing the original sources!
Dave's the kind of guy that can give some decent insight on how things are made behind the curtain.
HOWEVER! He's also the type of guy that you should take all his words with a grain of salt, because he exaggerates a ton in his videos just to feel some sort of sympathy for him. He didn't code Windows, he only coded a few apps in Windows. This adware company just kinda proves how good he is at misguiding people. Way better than Tommy "I worked with Shigeru" Tallarico at the very least.
This is why having multiple witnesses, and official proof is necessary to prove a point. Anyone can just say random stuff on the internet.
@@thepuzzlemaster64 idk, it never crossed my mind that he made a huge part of the OS. Naturally it was a group endeavour. Also I don't remember him saying he coded the pinball game, but saying he was working on a port of it. Perhaps people need to listen more carefully.
@@YS_Production Well the way he keeps boasting about coding the format menu, the task manager, the zip functionality, the freaking pinball game when in reality there was way more people involved that he almost never mentions (especially the Pinball game, who's creator got shafted by MS).
It wouldn't surprise me if he started boasting about creating Windows as a whole one day.
Wait he didn't code windows!? I see. All the time I thought he did. Wait, I didn't, because no one ever said he did, so why are you implying the opposite? Of course he only worked on couple parts here and there, as did every one of the hundreds of MS coders.
Thanks for the video mate, good job. I don't have a problem with the shareware model, but it has to be clear up-front before you download what the limitations are, and the cost of the full product. They were clearly using scare tactics and misleading information to trick people into buying their crap.
That adware that installed along with CPURocket sounds like a browser toolbar add-on. I'm glad those days are behind us.
If he had just owned his poor choices and been transparent about the whole thing, I'd be fine considering him a reformed man. But he ducks and weaves, playing it down, trying to bury the past.
I wasn't his biggest fan to begin with. His constant reminders that he is an ex-Microsoft engineer, and mentioning what he worked on at Microsoft whenever he could shoehorn it in was annoying to me. Reminds me of techlead, and we now know that he is a scammer too.
Thanks for laying out the information for us to easily parse.
That was the shareware era, Dave definitely wasn't the only guy making bullshit programs like that. Every second 'utility' program you ran into in those days was generally useless 'buy-me' junk. Not saying that he wasn't guilty for his actions, but he did get reprimanded for them and had to pay his dues.
I really hope this isn't enough for people to just write him off, it's realistically a minimal controversy in contrast to all the other crazy shit other Youtubers are getting nailed for which actually does warrant re-evaluating their merit altogether. This issue is almost 20 years old; is there some anticipation for Dave to profusely apologize and beg for forgiveness? I'd have done the same thing and not talked about it if I were in his shoes. I know I don't introduce myself by saying "Hi, I'm me, just so you know about 20 years ago I did something stupid that I want to tell you about."
We should not make criminals into public figures and celebrities. Fake security software isn't the only problem with Plummer; his videos are full of inaccuracies and lies.
It blew up on Twitter and he intentionally avoided responding to it. If he had been cool about it and owned up to it instead of hoping for the dust to settle, I wouldn't even bother making this video. Check out the quote tree — my Twitter investigation in the description.
Then why does he refuse to talk about it? It's not like he has some legal gag which forbids him from mentioning it. Constantly dodging it only aggravates the issue further. The evidence is there.
Memory is allocated in blocks. If you have a lot of little blocks that can be coalesced then you remove the overhead of memory management and pointer look ups. I suspect when membory was more limited back then Memturbo would have been beneficial.
bruh this comment section just shows how many people really know how computer works, enderman you shouldn't throw out this video just because of daves little sheeps defending the fact that before he became an old fart he was targeting vulnerable people that didnt know shit about computers to extract as much money as possible in predatory ways. Did microsoft not pay him enough or was it just all greed? You should definetly do some deeper digging and make another deeper and more fact checked video about that because dave seems like he really doesnt want his viewers to know about it by deleting every comment he sees about it and brushing it off on social media, if it were not for you i and many more would not know his dodgy past
@@thepuzzlemaster64 Could it actually be autism? I watched an interview of him on another channel, and he wasn't as expressive as he is in most of his videos. Maybe that's why he feels "a little too calm".
Well the first one was him constantly bringing up his autism for me, just felt like grifting. the other one was the fact that he seemed to never be critical of Microsoft for anything, if I had to guess he still holds shares lol
Memory fragmentation is largely solved by a 64 bit address space at this point. But it really could be a problem on 32 bit systems. It wasn't about the speed of accessing memory. It was about the speed of executing malloc. It also could cause problems like programs eventually crashing due to spurious "out of memory" errors, if they were designed in such a way that they called malloc and free a lot and fragmented their address space. Programs that allocated a large block and then divvied it up themselves wouldn't run into that problem at the OS level, but the likeliness of that sort of manual memory management really depended on who was writing the program, and how much they understood their computer and OS. Address virtualization may have helped with this to some extent - I'm not 100% sure of the details of how much that could help (if "sequential" pages in program address space could be allocated at random spots in physical memory). But either way, that didn't entirely solve the problem for long running programs that did a lot of random-ish small allocations/deallocations. I believe the program's virtual address space was still something that had to be chopped up and have sufficient sequential blocks in order for malloc to succeed. 32 bit addressing is still only 4gb, and that's not a lot of room to work in. Whether such "RAM defragmentor" programs actually did anything about this problem is a different question, though. I agree that it seems pretty unlikely.
Memory fragmentation is actually a thing. Not sure about the utility, but if you code a custom allocator or having a memory management implementation, things you consider in the design is to avoid memory fragmentation. This is generally important for devices that have memory restrictions.
He earned a lot of money, don't know if actually needed them for the lawsuits? I do understand he doesn't want to talk about his past, we all make mistakes, but I don't know if he sees it as a mistake.
Right? I've watched the entire video and I don't see anything negative other than being forced to click a second button after you tried to restart. Where's the crime?
This was back in the XP days... Where you would click a registry cleaner and it would completely eff your system. Fill it with pop-ups and crap..
Honestly this just seems like I'm done doing the hard grind and I want to write some code that people might buy...
He saw this. He's cowardly wiping out the comments about this under his videos and still doesn't want to respond. I guess the only way to get his attention is to have the big YouTubers cover this.
Why claim RAM fragmentation isn't an issue? That's like saying hundreds of thousands of senior developers are incompetent.
First off - memory fragmentation is relevant for dynamic memory allocation, where you need a contiguous block of RAM of x bytes. There are much more than x bytes free - but in many holes that each is smaller than x bytes. So no free block can be used - without the heap first being defragmented.
This is why all devices with limited RAM should be very, very careful about use if dynamic memory. In many environments, this means the only allowed place to allocate is at startup. And then keep the allocations until the device is restarted.
Next thing - RAM may mean "Random Access Memory". But it's many, many, many years since RAM was "constant access time memory". Which is why compilers and delevopers needs to optimize locations of data, and also the size of data structures. The RAM itself has burst transfer behaviour where it takes extra time for access to the first byte. Then the memory can have a decent transfer rate for up to a page of data. Then we have the issues with layer0, layer1, layer2 and maybe layer3 cache. Having the data tightly grouped can make it fit in the same cache line - and the read from RAM fills a full cache line at a time.
Next thing is that dynamically allocated memory needs a data structure to map the allocated blocks. That structure complexity adds non-constant search times.
Then we have paged and non-paged memory. Today, all programs gets memory blocks in forms of pages. Actual page size depending on processor. And the processor may support a hierarchy of two and three different size pages, so it might use 4 kB, 2 MB and 1 GB pages. Pages means a program can see a contiguous block of virtual memory, that is represented by a multiple non-contiguous blocks of physical memory pages. But data structures are used for these mappings. So you habe page tables. And you may have TLB - Translation Lookaside Buffer - that caches a linited number of paging mappings.
But move back to older Windows versions, and not everything was distinct virtual memory. You got memory handles. A memory handle represented a pointer to a pointer to RAM. Why two levels of indirection? Because the OS could then defragment the physical memory, and modify the second level pointer. Interesting - RAM not needing defragmentation and the OS still had a specific concept with dual-indirection access just to be able to defragment. Silly OS developers...
Bottom line: memory defragmentation is needed in some situations. More so 20 years ago than now.
Same with download managers that optimized TCP/IP parameters. You want different options if you want many MB/s or if you want shortest lag. So Asus and other motherboard vendors have multiple times shipped applications explicitly optimizing for gaming performance.
In short - forcing popup ads etc is bad. Very, very bad. But don't critique technical optimizations without having the technical know-how to actually debate their functionality. What is done, and if it matters or not. Especially since our needs now are different from 20 years ago, making it invalid to apply todays expectations on the logic.
I will debate the functionality because his software doesn't even defragment the RAM. It's not a job of a utility, it's a job of the kernel. All his software does I think is push memory to swap and free it back again, and regarding NetTurbo, modifying 5 registry keys shouldn't be paid for.
Alrighty, here's my pov on this: honestly, he was younger, this was the past, and the past can't be changed. I know that what he did was a bit scammy, but I feel like we should forgive him for it. Unless he is secretly doing it under another name, I still see him as a good person. I feel like targeting him for the past is just not what to do. Ok the wording in the book seems weird, but he just wants to forget about it, and I get it, we all screw up and want move on. Please, if you're reading this, don't harass him. That's not cool of you to harass people because of their past. But that is my pov
фан бой дэйва детектед
"мовет мы пвостим его за то вто он скамил людей на нифиговую такую кругленькую сумму. он ве был таким молодым и глупеньким"
чел, он даже на своих видео пытается насрать в уши людям, то что он там всю систему целиком сделал. смотрите какой я ретардед ретайред инженер супер пупер крутой.
No hard feelings! Not trying to be a dick about it, but the audience should know. I think he was about 40 years young back when that incident occurred.
I appreciate what this video's going for, but I think it would've come out a lot better if it was more structured and researched, instead of just bringing up background at random points in the video and not doing much to back it up other than "you can go and visit them yourself I won't be going through it."
What comes to mind is having two distinct parts. Have the first half lay out the groundwork and summarize your findings so that people don't have to do a bunch of research to verify your claims, even though they just watched a half-hour video. An example that comes to mind is that you barely mention much with regard to the court documents, you just scroll through them a bit and seemingly think that's enough. At least read them fully and try to support your claims with them, this is persuasive writing 101!
Then, dedicating the second half to showing off the software distributed by him to demonstrate what it did, why it was bad, and hammer your point home. You already did that (though that hosts file seemingly caught you off-guard - test your stuff and make sure your claims hold water before you try and demo it...) but some more research and testing before you made the video would've helped a lot.
You mentioned in the beginning that you heard of this whole thing yesterday, and made the video in that time-frame - I think it really shows. If you wanna make a persuasive video like this again, actually try and focus hard on the persuasive part, instead of just flippantly showing evidence you don't go into detail on and winging demonstrations assuming it'll prove your claim instead of taking away from it.
Thank you guys for the constructive feedback! If I ever make a documentary again, I'll make sure to structure it better. My initial priority was to review the scam in action, much more than talk about Dave himself, but then I read his book and the misleading coverage in there changed my mind midway through. Hence the erratic structure of this video. I initially discovered the information the night before, so that video was ~2 days in production total, no hurry.
I could see where he was coming from and it probably makes it a bit more digestible that it was just kinda overview, then switching back and forth. But yeah some people probably do better with the more linear approach, but he provides sources for people who want the nitty gritty, so it probably balances out.
Defragmenting RAM makes sense if you have millions of tiny blocks spread evenly, preventing large blocks from getting inserted in between the gaps. It is not going to make RAM any faster though
except the RAM gets flushed every time you boot, or restart your device.
It just clears all data that was stored in the RAM, so im not sure what's there to defrag.
And even if you defrag RAM, it's not going to do much, unlike HDD's. For HDD's, defraging is necessary to do every once in a while, because it optimizes read/write speeds, and even the system can do it automatically for you.
And unlike RAM, HDD doesn't get flushed every time you restart/boot the device.
7:00 His license plate is 116, 911 (156th prime) rotated 180 degrees. 11x6=66. "Dave W Plummer" = 153 ordinal. The 116th composite number. So he's, probably, into gematria and numerology.
@Endermanch I first noticed it in some of his video titles and lengths. His Microsoft employee number (32005), drop the 0s, is 325 which is the 25th triangular number. 25 is the 5th square, 5 when interpreted generously refers to spirit over matter (ie the top of the star, bottom being the four elements), but in general simply means sensory reality. The 5 primary senses. More directly however, his name is "David". The 111111 pointed star is often called the [stop deleting my comments youtube], though really it's simply a hexagram, or two triangles put together (numbers around him are often triangular numbers). So if you write out "thirty two zero zero five" it gives 3737 in Agrippa's key, 37 is the 12th prime and 3rd star number. So two 3s, 33. His full name as written on the card he shows "David Plummer" = 138, 1 off (rule of colel) from 137, the 33rd prime.
Either way, he's highly intra-aligned numerically. The main point being while I do think he's aware of it, there's also an organic layer where this stuff just happens (and is aligned well beyond statistical chance). It's also the case that if you hold a number in mind then just start writing, check your own output, you'll find it correlates closely with that number. The reason for this is probably, at least in part, that the same brain regions (namely the cerebellum) controls fine motor output of the fingers and speech, memory, mathematical calculations, language, and grammar + syntax + a bit of symbolic processing. The same area does all of this. Everyone is taught the same alphabetical order and songs in childhood, and the unconscious mind responds to rhythm and is constantly counting everything, keeping track of time, and so on. So often times your unconscious mind is producing output organized around whatever else is in mind and you aren't even aware of it.
In his case though I do see a bit of number magic going on.
@@Endermanch I first noticed it in some of his video titles and lengths. His Microsoft employee number (32005), drop the 0s, is 325 which is the 25th triangular number. 25 is the 5th square, 5 when interpreted generously refers to spirit over matter (ie the top of the star, bottom being the four elements), but in general simply means sensory reality. The 5 primary senses. More directly however, his name is "David". The six pointed star is often called the "Star of David", though really it's simply a hexagram, or two triangles put together (numbers around him are often triangular numbers). So if you write out "thirty two double o five" it gives 3737 in Agrippa's key, 37 is the 12th prime and 3rd star number. So two 3s, 33. His full name as written on the card he shows "David Plummer" = 138, 1 off (rule of colel) from 137, the 33rd prime.
Either way, he's highly intra-aligned numerically. The main point being while I do think he's aware of it, there's also an organic layer where this stuff just happens (and is aligned well beyond statistical chance). It's also the case that if you hold a number in mind then just start writing, check your own output, you'll find it correlates closely with that number. The reason for this is probably, at least in part, that the same brain regions (namely the cerebellum) controls fine motor output of the fingers and speech, memory, mathematical calculations, language, and grammar + syntax + a bit of symbolic processing. The same area does all of this. Everyone is taught the same alphabetical order and songs in childhood, and the unconscious mind responds to rhythm and is constantly counting everything, keeping track of time, and so on. So often times your unconscious mind is producing output organized around whatever else is in mind and you aren't even aware of it.
In his case though I do see a bit of number magic going on. Interesting stuff to see either way.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino Both composites and primes are relevant. 156 for example refers to the eclipse cycle. A solar eclipse will occur somewhere on Earth every 1, 5, or 6 synodic months. The Hebrew word for eclipse = 156. Another good example is 37 and 73. 37 is the 12th prime and 3rd star number. 73 is the 21st prime and 4th star number. So while incrementing by 1 star, you move through two numbers that are mirrored both in themselves and their corresponding primes.
@@Mario583a People that are into gematria and numerology believe specific numbers have special properties or powers and try to tie almost everything they do to these numbers or numeric properties of numbers, like a number being prime, for example.
4:23 In his defense, DRAM does have a latency penalty when it comes to random access, which is why cache exists. So, I guess, maybe at the best if it does something it could help out with latency.
But another technique that is verified as legit is spreading the RAM usage between various RAM banks in a precise way.
It simply forces existing applications into swap by allocating and dirtying, by all reason.
It can have a pleasant effect that next application you load, the loads aren't going to cause disk contention against writes. The flip side is that when swap back needs to happen, it will be slower and more vigorous, since the amount of swapped out data is generally beyond LRU tracking. So the application could be useful if you know the trade-offs, it shouldn't be sold on misleading claims.
DRAM has penalties when you switch the read pattern between pages and between lines, but all pages are equal to each other. System gives applications memory in pages. Applications suffer "heap fragmentation", which is really bad, but it's internal to their architecture and not something you can influence externally. The claim of the software is false.
RAM banks on PC simply arrange themselves into a wider bus if built optimally, it's even beneath the level of the operating system. Since CPU cache is populated and evicted linewise (32 bytes in that era, 64 a little later), all reads and writes will actually complete faster.
Glad I'm seeing other people down here who also got bad vibes from Dave. I've given his videos several shots over the years and something would always eventually "ping my spidey senses," as another user put it. The dude throws up red flags for all sorts of ugly personality traits.
Devil's advocate (memturbo): Defragmenting RAM is actually not complete nonsense when you consider the MMU and TLB (translation lookaside buffer).
Continuous physical addresses allow the OS to shrink the size of the TLB by increasing page size, thus reducing the amount of times the hardware needs to trigger a page fault to ask the operating system what physical address corresponds to which virtual address (The TLB is a cache for that exact question). It's essentially what linux's transparent huge pages does.
That said, I am inclined to doubt memturbo actually did this. I'm also curious if this would've had a measurable effect in hardware that old. I'd expect this to only really surface with multiple GB of RAM given the default 4KB page size of most architectures.
@@SianaGearz 1. TLB size: Kindly read the entire comment you're replying to. 2. Defragmentation avoidance: Tomato tomato. Plus memory is not only allocated. It's also freed.
@@gtsiam i have read this article, but i think there is difference between what does softram and this ram defragmentation tool. Softram compressed only some part of the memory so it didnt touch kernel and driver memory. But doesnt defragmentating ram basically means that you need to rearrange whole memory, including kernel and driver memory?
@@Barnacules Oh yes, 100%. I'm not arguing memturbo was legit. Just an interesting technical point about MMUs.
In fact I doubt the technique I mentioned in my comment would have a measurable impact on older hardware. This only really comes into play when dealing with lots and lots of 4KB pages with multiple GB of RAM.
@@Ne-vc5pm I was going to agree, but after a bit of digging, I'm not so sure.
Given that things like SoftRAM 95 are possible, I would not be surprised if this is also possible. Check out Raymond Chen's post on the old new thing if you're interested. i'd link it, but then I'd get shadow banned.
Still doesn’t explain all the upgrade tricks and nagging. That is still scammy. Along with the poor lamen explanation. But the other software was far more scammy as time went on.
@@Ne-vc5pm If you're running in kernel space (which you'd have to be to even start thinking of this kind of stuff) you can do whatever you want, period. In theory at least.
In practice, you would need a deep understanding of the NT kernel's memory management code. System instability would also be a given.
Not to mention the skill required to pull this off. For someone who mainly seems to have worked on UI stuff? No. Just no.
I became distrustful of him by seeing his unhinged takes on twitter such as "linux includes secret blob from Linus", defending elon musket, defending unlawful actions of cops etc etc. Now this video puts the final nail in the coffin.
You shouldn't have included pictures of his family like that. At least censored his son's face. I agree that he needs to speak out about this, but you aren't making yourself look good by doing that. I know those pictures are probably publicly accessible if you know where to look, but it just doesn't look good on you to use them.
You know, fair. I don't really make strong allegations against him, and I don't mention his familial background. That's just what happened in the past and he's no longer scamming people (hopefully). He posted that on Twitter. It didn't feel right to alter the image, it would feel SCP-like or as if he's a serious criminal. He's not a dangerous criminal! That's my thought process here.
Ironic, this video appeared as a recommendation right after one of Dave's videos. I'm not subscribed to him, something seemed off by his rhetoric, I couldn't really point out. Thank you for your research!
Thanks for the video. I wasn't aware he owned or operated these companies, so I learned something new. Totally agree these were sus companies with borderline sus software. That said, on the technical side (I'm 47 and been a sysadmin for almost 30 years), I did want to point out a couple things that I think were overlooked: 1. The time period when all of this was going on. People often overlook what the state of Windows was at that time. Do not think the kernel, registry, or userland programs native to Windows were "flawless". I'll cover more below. 2. Memory fragmentation: you are right that it's not something a consumer needs to worry about in most cases, especially given 2000 and XP at the time, and that the kernel tries to do its best to alleviate non-linear allocations. I also agree that the purpose of the program gives a placebo effect. But please understand memory fragmentation is a real problem that does happen and is particularly impacting if you have a large number of long-running processes with high memory utilisation. The kernel's VM (virtual memory, not virtual machine!) has memory split into pages (chunks), and quite often you need something loaded into a linear congruent piece of memory. When you consider the allocations vary in size and in quantity, eventually over time you do end up with data spread across non-congruent pages -- and there is a performance hit for that (and can be quite bad if available/free memory is limited). Not trying to defend Dave here, just educating you about the technology. 3. Registry cleaners: these have been debated since they were invented. Yes they actually can serve a useful purpose (to remove entries that cross-reference program paths no longer in place), but as you said many of them are questionable. However: the analyser you used shows numerous registry entries that, believe it or not, come broken right out of the box on a fresh OS install and ARE NOT the cleaner's fault. 2K/XP is somewhat notorious for this. Yes, Microsoft left broken/silly stuff in place on a fresh 2000/XP install. You can verify this using other cleaners like CCleaner (for XP you'll need an older version). I agree the inserts-itself-into-startup-and-shutdown and "OH NO!!!" type of warning dialogs are scummy, but some of those scan results you saw are not the fault of the cleaner. I would therefore not call this "a rogue" (whatever that means; I've never heard anyone use this term to describe software like this, we just call it crapware). The registry today (Win10/11) is so bloated and ridiculous that it's a lost cause to try and fix all the mistakes anyway.
Another reason for why it makes no sense in defraging RAM, as dave wants you to think otherwise:
BECAUSE THE RAM FLUSHES ITSELF EVERY TIME YOU BOOT UP THE MACHINE!
RAM is a TEMPORARY storage unit, that flushes itself every time you restart or the next time you boot up the machine.
It'd make sense if it was a HDD, since HDD's require defragmentation every once in a while, and even then, the computer can automatically do it for you, and unlike RAMs, HDD's do NOT flush themselves after every restart, because they are a PERMANENT storage unit. This is why the system saves stuff on the HDD, not the RAM.
However, RAM is needed to speed up your PC, obviously.
He should've knew better, being a "former MS employee", but i guess he was only there, just so he could have that title, and then move on with his scams, which we can now see.
And instead of taking that L like a man, he tries to sweep it under the rug, and pretend it's all fine.
Is it that hard to say "yes i scammed people in the past, and im guilty of that, but i will try to be a better person onwards"?
@@charlie_nolan Yes i have observed memory fragmentation a lot, but it can only happen at application level, so some other application or the system can't really do anything about it. You can inject a better implementation of malloc into an application, that helps, that's why google's tcmalloc exists and it has the capability foreseen to force inject it into any application, when the dll is loaded it will set up its own detours. Once fragmentation has happened, nothing can be done about it other than killing the application. The malloc replacement must be hooked in before an application is running.
Nowadays we don't care, but at the tail end of 32-bit era, it was a massive problem.
It's actually a key problem in most garbage collected environments where the deallocation happens in random order and not in reverse order from allocation. Javascript engines are prone to generate insane fragmentation, both internal to the engine, and secondary in the browser DOM manipulation.
I have maintained an application which was fundamentally very prone to fragmentation for similar reasons, since it was necessary to load and unload thousands of differently sized assets per minute in random order, which it would obtain via internet and which were disk cached as well.
I have also observed fragmentation in the buffer management of graphics drivers.
Of course the claim of the RAM cleaner is completely false, it does nothing for fragmentation. By adorning the program with false claims which seem just barely plausible enough, they could command a much higher price for the application than it was worth.
The little cartoon doing dave's star trek salute fucking kills me lol. I still like dave, obviously this isn't a great look... but think about it. He talks about being a software author but only wants to take credit for hypercache for the Amiga and windows visual zip. Obviously his other work was less mention worthy, or as it seems, somewhat dubious.
Dang that's wild, I've seen a few of his vids and he seemed on the level for the first few, then I started sensing something sus but I mostly dismissed it.
i hope your other reviews show less ignorance of tech than this one does.
any program which uses a heap gets fragmented, and it is perfectly ok to provide a utility to fix it. that is not a scam.
tcp/ip is indeed a protocol, and tuning the parameters is not a scam. how well it work is a matter of measurement.
registry cleaning is required due to how broken the design is for the windows registry. this is also not a scam. the registry slows down with every entry added, and people adding entries do not provide clean installers. some of this cruft left behind will even prevent you doing a clean reinstall.
having the software being paid for by showing ads is not a scam either.
so far all you have displayed is your own ignorance of how windows works, your dislike for adware, and your dislike of nagware.
the lawsuit seems to be about there being a mismatch between the exact phrasing of some of the blurb, and if the software provides the exact services provided as needed by that phrasing.
if he was a shareware hosting site, it is not his job to audit every piece of software, that is the job of the software writer.
however it is common practice to lodge a merit free lawsuit with the intent to make money by charging a nuisance fee which is cheaper than going to court. then people settle to make them go away. describing this as a few valid issues with a ton of crap claims is not lying.
@@Windows2000Professional.s of course you can. you replace the system malloc library with a different shared library at runtime. that is how some of the memory leak detectors like valgrind work.
@@grokitall First of all... Registry Cleaner IS a scam because of it begging you to buy it. Also, on clean installation of Windows, there are not that many Registry keys that go unused. Second, have you not heard of scareware? That entices you to buy it? That is what Registry Cleaner is. And InternetShield. Also, nagware is very annoying. So... Your ignorance is bliss.
Ram defragmentation might actually improve performance because of data and instruction cache; however i think such a performance improvement is more dependent on software and code optimization...
I literally met him in person! OMG I had no idea. He literally made a video for me! I know his adress. His email and everything else about him. My cuisen is literally freinds with his son and they go to the same school and live in the same city and they play on the same football team. I also know that he has I believe 2 daughters. Also he said "I hate talking on the phone." I even sent him packages and he returned them. he even gave me an M5StickCPlus. I am in pure shock. This was the only detail I didn't know about him.
@@Butterscotch_96the new owners of his website want you to go to the text equivalent of the UTF-8 CODE FOR 33 30 38 39 37 20 6C 69 6C 61 63 20 73 74 72 65 65 74 2C 20 44 61 6C 6C 61 73 20 74 78
oh yeah when I pointed out when every picture of his was the same he literally changed one of his video thumbnail pictures so that way that wasn't true anymore
one thing that i'm kinda curious is what happends if you manualy "fix" the issues that registry cleaner claims is bad. will more pop up ? they could be not even real / implented by the program
The video exaggerates badly imho. The scamware situation involving Dave Plummer and State of Washington was reported locally when it was happening and it is easy to reference the case online. It was a very small scam by any standards, it made boring news then and now. The video reports it like it is some sort of big secret, when it obviously was not. From what I can tell based on a couple 'searches'.... the man is worth between $1 and 5 million, which is comfortable but certainly not "rich" by today's standards.
I don't know did you scam thousands of people, is that normal, does everyone just do that? The question here is not of scale, it's of behaviour that was knowingly very unethical.
If he's not rich by today's standards, then he's either "read-baiting" those interested in his book Secrets of the Autistic Millionaire, published late 2021, or referring to the total amount he had earned up to that date, which also seems misleading for me.
Yeah, for the consumer market. But for server applications defrag utilities are still useful because HDDs are still being used in that market. Due to the cheap price-per-storage that HDDs provide. Though it would be cool if HDDs can defrag themselves. Thus eliminating defraging software all together.
Defragmenting RAM is real thing but I don't think the software does anything worthwhile because the kernel allocator works in pages so defragmented RAM means that this paged memory is not aligned anymore. As the kernel returns page even if you don't need whole page and this misalignment leads to defragmentation of the RAM
For the first 5 mins you were too hard on Poor Dave, but for the rest… JESUS DAVE WTF WERE YOU THINKING?! I know everyone has crap they did in the past that they hate they did, but DAMN-
WHY YOU GOTTA BE MY MILKSHAKE DUCK, DAVE? Maybe questionable windows utilities aren’t that bad but he’s put himself into the same bucket as the Indian call centers harassing grandmas to buy gift cards
4:34 That's not true. Fragmentation of RAM is a real thing. Consider the following situation: You have two objects that are 32 bits each. You assign memory to them sequentially. Now they are occupying 64 bits. You delete the first object and instead allocate a 24 bit object in its place. now between the 24bit and the 32 bit object you have 8bits of "wasted" space. This is a really complex issue garbage collected languages have to deal with. This wasted space also affects performance as it increases the amount of cache misses, because the ram is less "dense" and possibly misaligned. Can his software defragment it? Maybe.
@@Endermanch "Isn't data in RAM aligned to a certain granulation coefficient anyway? " Not always. It usually is, but let's say you have a 1000 objects with an uneven size for example 17 bits . You'd waste a lot of space by not allocating them sequentially. "I don't think it's a global problem between the process memory spaces." Nowadays I don't think it really is, because systems are way smarter about ram. Back in the day when the memory was significantly smaller I believe a skilled programmer could make a program to help *a little*.
Isn't data in RAM aligned to a certain granulation coefficient anyway? I don't think it's a global problem between the process memory spaces. Within the process, sure. But the utility would have to intrude and make a mess there. I don't see how it would offer a fix for that kind of fragmentation.
Wow the marketing definately sounds like him. He wrote 5line utilities decorated them with fake progressbars and either sold then or bundled then with ads. What a parasite
Dawg I don't get how you're going to be pedantic about the softwareonline website not saying "stack" wrt to TCP/IP when you make broad generalizations about memory subsystems that don't really hold leaving out anything like caching or situations like kernel memory where memory can in fact be allocated contiguously and therefore lead to fragmentation in the physical address space. Virtual or Intra-process memory however can easily be fragmented and cause issues which is why we have complex implementations of malloc and such.
Not a Dave defender overall btw he's definitely a hardcore grifter.
So, this all is quite relevant when you consider buying software from him.
Beyond that? How did the lawsuit end? Does it have ANY relevance whatsoever for the content of his youtube videos? Actually, no it does not. Additionally, when someone went through the legal process, payed the penalty for his mistakes, that person should be able to go on with their life. No, that does not mean continue doing what got that person in trouble, but it does mean being able to do legal things, without that past being held against them unless that past has a very very direct relation to what they are doing.
Failing that, ensures someone who gets in legal trouble will have no other choice than continuing with their illegal behavior.
While you have every right to dig up his past, and talk about that, I do not find your stated motivation for doing so to be convincing, nor do I see how this has any relevance whatsoever for his acrivity as a youtuber.
On top of that, do not blindly trust anyone, especially not people you do not actually know well in person. When it comes to someone telling stories on youtube, consider the entertainment value of those videos to you, but don't declare that person to be some kind of God. This will prevent a lot of disappointments.
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Can I ask you ... what is the point of this? What are you trying to achieve? Did he scam the millions?
6:43 - "Tweaking the registries yourself". Man this is 2001, the internet was slow, people exchanged software on floppy disks and CDs, the internet was a joke at that time.
It is very easy for a kid who did not live in those days to judge the days from the 2024. Go do your own stuff before people start shitting on you.
Like what are we trying to achieve here 20 years later? He was charged with the crime, he paid the damages and the case was closed. People fuck up, people make mistakes, people do stupid things. People get arrested and get judged, pay for their crimes and then we can move on. Yet some kid in Russia is like "mwhahahahaha, muh drama" stirring up shit 20 years later. What good does this bring to anyone?
“He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her.”
Up until the 2011-ish the internet was full of small utilities and free-floating binaries created by small companies. And people were very much free thinkers and free spirited! I was a kid back then and I installed a LOT of crap on my family's computer.
We had dozens of programs installed that we rarely ever used. We had all these "Registry cleaners", Program Files cleaners, defrag cleaners, temp file cleaners, app data cleaners, and cleaner cleaners... sometimes those programs would delete something crucial off Windows. We had 3 CD and DVD burners, we had shitty games installed, we had everything under the Sun installed.
The images from 2007 when the author of this video was 6 years old we had so many Internet Explorer toolbars it was not even funny. Malware was everywhere. As if this "Rogue software" that did not do anything wrong was very harmful and toxic. We would do everything to get those old slow computers to move faster, and it did not matter if it was a free trial, one use, or whatever. We downloaded it, we used it. Is it a shitty thing to sell something that has a questionable functionality? Sure. But we are no better nowadays than we were back then. The "rogue software" was the least offending software on the internet.
I guess that owning up to your mistakes, feeling the cringe of your past, and showing remorse, it would show that you have matured as a person. I'll own up to my mistakes, and know to avoid such mistakes for the rest of my life. ...although in my case it was incompetence, not malice. I think that owning up to it would make less people dunk on him.
As an embedded dev, two types of memory fragmentation are my pain point: userspace virtual memory (MMU) fragmentation means more complex DMA microcode (due to having to jump memory boundaries) and more likely to hit CAS latency with systems on DRAM if virtual memory is really desynchronized with their physical memory mapping. Heap fragmentation is actually a problem on desktop as well), where object allocation could randomly fail at any time if there are lots of small gaps between even remotely big objects on the heap.
As to achieve what CPU Rocket promised in the modern age, in Windows 10 if you feel like an expert, you could tweak the kernel scheduler parameters by creating a new power plan, and using regedit or powercfg to edit those scheduler parameters. "CPU core parking in Windows 10" is what led me down the rabbithole.
Does this video appear to be aimed at clout-chasing? The events mentioned happened 20 years ago, so I'm curious why they are being highlighted now. While I'm not dismissing the negative significance of the topic, I question the relevance of revisiting such old incidents. The creator has interviewed notable Microsoft employees like Dave Cutler and Raymond Chen, who have made remarkable contributions themselves, the fact they agreed to being interviewed by Mr. Plummer indicates to me he is held in at least some regard. Everyone makes mistakes, often driven by personal greed. This particular incident from two decades ago doesn't necessarily reflect someone's entire character but rather a lapse in judgment. The intent of this video seems to be more about seeking attention than providing meaningful insight.
@@Xxc-iw7yj second chances are for everyone regardless of what the person is for you, having caution and awareness of a person is a must obviously, but going to the point of harassing said person reminding previous mistakes it's just plain wrong and retarded. or else, we wouldn't be allowing irl reformed criminals and ex-convicts the opportunity of re-join society. This whole video could've been just a simple and small PSA but instead it's a "lol EXPOSED LOOK WHAT HE DID I CAN'T BELIEVE HE WAS LIKE THIS FRFR NO CAP" I could even go to the length of saying that Enderman is indeed overreacting the whole thing judging by this video and the tweets he made for no reason at all while providing no sane awareness to it's audience.
@@phenom957 Dude, check your parasociality level, because to me it looks off the charts. I stated that the guy can't be trusted, and now you respond is as if I personally attacked you. All I'm saying the guy is sus because of his past and it's good to know that in advance, in case he starts shilling some shit or tries some dubious stuff again. It's not that I hate him, sometimes he makes interesting videos I would watch. He just can't be trusted as a person with integrity as far as I'm concerned. That's it.
@@Xxc-iw7yj If you don't have that relationship to him, then what are you doing? Are you doing this as a public good, or are you shaming him, or is it something else?
@@Xxc-iw7yj When is it, then, do you not give second chances to people? What about Dave's situation is different than when you'd give a second chance?
@@PANCHO7532 He doesn't need to be scamming today. Mere knowledge that he's capable of doing any morally dubious shit because he did that in the past is enough to deem him untrustworthy basically forever. Especially since he really doesn't want to speak about the topic and when he does, he downplays it.
main thing that hits me is he still profits off of deliberately misleading claims about his successes through his book. his book which he currently sells and markets to those with autism as things he wish he had known, while also hiding the major reason he was successful was because he had scammed people
pretty much this. complaining decades later when there isn't really any proof that Dave's still scamming at this very date it's just plain stupid and unnecessary considering how Dave is nowadays
I used to fix a bunch of computers in that era, windows 98 and XP (crapware) was as prevalent as all the garbage crypto coins and overpriced manufactured e waste we are being shilled today.
Only difference is people like piling on drama on the internet.
This is sad to see. I'm not subbed to him but I did watch some of his videos and I liked them. Respected him for creating Task Manager but to find out that he quit microsoft in order to scam people who aren't aware of the existence of adware..This is unfortunate.
The microsoft MVP program wasn't "developers at microsoft". To the best of my understanding and fuzzy ass memory, it was people in their support forums who got promoted to have some profile bling (and I think they may have also gotten some free MSDN access?). I think the bc_programming guy is a person who was saying they were in that MVP list, and that they have downloaded leaked source code (obviously not through the MVP program). I believe what he's saying, of course. I am just trying to clarify minor mistakes in the video is all.
Just a heads up - the reason you might want to defragment RAM is to create larger continuous free blocks for applications. I don't know Windows so well, but on classic Mac OS, programs were allocated contiguous blocks only, so if you had 2MB free, then 1k used, then 2 more MB free, you'd effectively only have 2MB available to the next program you launched, unless you did some memory management. I believe there was stuff that managed this to a degree, but it was still a minor issue and wasted RAM on macs up until the end of the "Classic" Mac OS era. I'd give more pertinent examples, but I'm not familiar with the specifics of Windows memory management.
15:48 You state that he was indicted yet show court documents from a civil lawsuit. Accusing someone of being criminally indicted when they were not seems like solid grounds for them to sue for defamation.
25:50 You state that it's misleading and a scam yet the software tells you that you don't have to pay for it if you agree to receive ads. Whether or not you agree with this approach to software, I don't see how it is misleading or a scam. A scam requires that someone be deceived yet I don't see any deception. Calling something a "scam" suggests that someone has acted fraudulently.
As a general comment, you should consider the environment that existed nearly 20 years ago. Computers, operating systems, and the internet were all very different from how they operate now. Software was also distributed and marketed differently. The impugned actions and behaviour needs to be considered from the perspective of the extant conditions at the relevant time.
Concluding that software is a scam because it does not behave as you expect it to (e.g. modifying the hosts file) and, therefore, doesn't do anything, is also a dangerous approach. If, for example, it modified browser settings or somehow blocked connections using a blacklist, it would obviously do something. If you feel that this is unhelpful or does not provide sufficient value for the price that is paid, then you can state your opinion. Accusing a person of fraud based upon this opinion and without a full understanding of what the software does, or does not do, is dangerous.
It would be prudent for you to consult with legal counsel about potential liability and opportunities to mitigate damages.
Civil indictment is not a thing. "Indictment" refers to a criminal prosecution.
Criminal charges must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Civil claims are determined on a balance of probabilities. The judgment was actually a settlement agreement that was reduced to a court order. None of the allegations in the lawsuit were proved.
A settlement is a compromise of disputed claims; it does not require any admissions whereas a plea in a criminal proceeding does require an acknowledgement of the underlying facts. It makes sense that a person or company would agree to settle claims to avoid spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to fight the government without a guarantee of a successful outcome.
While I am not saying that your opinion about the nature of the software is right or wrong, bolstering your statements with misstatements about the court proceeding and outcome is likely quite dangerous.
Actually, it makes perfect sense to defragment RAM. Having RAM be sequentially sorted does result in better performance. If you look at what some of the Linux kernel people are doing with different malloc implementations, it is one of the major things they're trying to resolve. I suspect this would matter even more, on old computers. Look up memory fragmentation, it's a thing!
TCP/IP is actually a protocol (Transmission Control Protocol over Internet Protocol). Though he is optimizing the stack here (the implementation of TCP/IP), by changing registry values. It could realistically help, depending on a bunch of factors.
@@Endermanch Well, I have my doubts about the program actually defragmenting memory. If it were, it would probably be best if it hooks and replaces the memory allocation function of the kernel, and does some simple-ish guesses, to do it better.
How much fragmentation affects a program depends on how much dynamic memory it uses, how often it allocates/deallocates that memory, and how much of its memory is required at once. I could imagine it playing a role in some bigger productivity tasks, where a lot of objects reference eachother. But how big the impact actually is, I don't know. I just know it's there.
There are some real userspace programs for Windows that can clean something called the Working Set, introduced with Vista, and that's done with a simple function call. It can make the OS run on ridiculously small amounts of memory. It's not entirely out of the question that similar functions for freeing certain buffers might exist in older versions, so maybe the program has some validity.
I don't think it's a job a utility is fit for anyway, though? That's on the side of the operating system. I also still don't think the OS would allow the memory to be fragmented enough to create problems with allocating larger pages, else that would be a fiasco. Defrag must happen on this kind of edge cases, but RAM is optimized for random reads. It's a matter of selling the a bunch of CPU cycles to ensure faster sequential speeds (the performance improvement is insignificant)
@@EndermanchThanks. I know about this but for security reasons I cannot install 3rd party software on that cell. I have already watched your video by the time I posted my first comment on a different device with ublock and mullvad vpn hosts on my router.
I have to apologize for misunderstanding your intentions though. Is not what I originally thought.
I will also give you a hint about a technical mistake you made in the video about ram fragmentation. Its a common issue in software memory allocator to have fragmentation in heap allocations. Especially when memory is low.
Although this makes the claim even more fake as it's literally impossible even from kernel level to do defragmentation in the allocations as this besides extra temporary storage it would need from kernel level to suspend every software running and replace the allocated pointers. Something that wouldn't be enough as when the programs would resume due to context switching the previously loaded addresses may still be present in the registers or stack including the program counter which would need to restart the entire operation prior suspension.
@@YaySyuAlso for the last comment, If I was an uneducated di*k like you I would make you look totally dumb. Just make an attempt to start a technical debate with me :)
@@YaySyuYou seriously have no idea who you're talking to. I don't need tech advice. Also on Android unless you use a 3rd party app or setup a dedicated endpoint in the local network to filter relevant traffic it is not possible to skip them.
@@Corpsebridefan777 No. You're tech illiterate. I suggested you use an adblocker because the FBI recommends it as an extra anti-malware security measure
You then responded with something completely unrelated, which makes me wonder if youre just illiterate in general and cant read.
Imagine not using an adblocker in your browser because it may not block youtube ads in the future.
Yeah and passwords will be useless when quantum computers are used to brute force one day. May I reccomenf you stop using passwords at all?
@@YaySyu I would say you are as soon YouTube will be placing the ads inside the video frames being steamed and it will be impossible to detect from any ad blocker.
Also I did eventually watched it from non cellphone based device already..
Bro fr, even on iPhone im using safari and an ad blocker. At least use uBlock or something if you’re on Windows/Linux 😂 bro really complaining about ads on a tech channel
Older PCs did RAM very different, there would be some very small improvement(maybe) (aggregation for sequential reads) . FYI Dave: I had to remove your SW and many others like it from vulnerable normies in the 90's and early 2000's not being able to uninstall is scammy and kinda inexcusable for someone who worked for M$. Seeing as it's all over and done with, you should man-up and apologise so I can go back to liking you please. Thankyou Enderman, I appreciate the video, but please remember it was a different time (the wildwest) I and many people made their livings fixing the systems of ppl who fell for this kind of thing, so in a way: everyone was involved... idk
The guy always rubbed me the wrong way anyways, I think it’s how he reads from the teleprompter like a robot. Regardless I unsubscribe from Dave’s garage asap after seeing this video.
Hi enderman i have a problem, I installed Windows 11 23h2 on vmware 12 after installation there is no round corner so i have to install Vmware Tools, After a successful installation the round corner is still not present
I watched his videos originally. Now it mostly seems to just be him rehearsing his days at microsoft again and again, same shit every time. It's time to block him from my feed, thanks for bringing this up!
There are a lot of non-technical people in this forum that did not have a Windows XP machine back then. I'm sorry but nothing I have seen in this video tells me that what was done was malware out right. Was it a money grab? Sure. That's called capitalism. And any sysadmin Will tell you that the windows registry has hundreds of settings that don't need to be there because of backwards compatibility from Microsoft. Considering he worked there, he knew about them - had insider knowledge, and knew how he could clean things up. They probably bugged him, so he sought them out and provided people a way to fix it.
Did people need to do this? No. But that doesn't mean it didn't do something. Is it a scam? I'm on the fence. If it doesn't hurt you is it a scam? I don't know. That said, his channel gives a lot of great information and I enjoy it. I will reserve my judgment until I see something that shows that he actually hurt people from his software.
David released a video today that I clicked on very shortly after release. I clicked on a comment that he responded to 30 seconds prior and suggested he respond to the criticism.
The comment got 3 likes and then it was deleted. Thats not a good look, regardless of guilt.
And you cant just excuse it as capitalism when an american court literally found enough wrong doing to seek damages.
This makes me sad and angry about social media! You dont know everything about the person who is on any platform and what they did/might do while they wear a mask to make them seem good and to attract viewers and subs. A bad person can easily hide their true horrifying side behind a bunch of good text about them in the description or by saying "i worked at this company" while after that he tuened to the evil pad but he wont show!
I like these exposure channels uncovering the truth behind the person on any social platform. Lets hope we expose more of these but also lets hope that youtube aint full of these people because then there wil be no one left to watch
not any more of a grifter move than shoving openai api calls in everything now, don't really care. he saw a way to make a buck and chased it and made millions, what an absolute hustler
This makes me feel sad. I like his videos for some reason, even when they are pretty long and not always that inside information what you're seeking for.
Registry clearers do something. The thing is that even on a clean install, some regkeys are not assigned. The problem is when you delete those keys, it may need them later. But unused keys can actually cause blanks, because the database is still loaded in memory. One of the reasons I dislike it, it is pretty useless.
Thanks for posting, but also making me feel bad at the same time lol.
I didn't really get what was the problem? You didn't cover much of the legal stuff but looking at it the complaint it was not about scamming or defrauding someone but rather how difficult the software was to remove or left files around even when uninstalled and used fomo tactics to upsell more garbage software. I think this video misrepresents some of the facts for shock value
you really take after rougeamp huh down to the model m say do you remember AmpDan1 for me that was a thing I looked forward to watching during a dark time in my life. I'm not surprised by all this btw the guy seemed like a nobody and only talked about the days at microsoft. I've had suspicions about it from the start but not say anything because I was worried about being looked down on for it
you can't run an exe on mac , you can use wine or playonmac but it will give you the same errors. it is programmed to trick you into buying the full version
I could kiiiiiinda see the memory defragmentation if it allows for more efficient i guess organization as far as virtual to physical mappings of pages goes, so it in theory might be doing something but yeah it's pretty snake oily and for the average user this isn't going to mean a whole lot of difference and is kinda too much of an implementation detail that yeah the OS probably should just be doing on its own (and XP might've already been doing). The net turbo is also kinda, stuff the OS should've already been doing, and XP probably also was doing. There were also several free tools which did the same thing. And again, for the average user considering the average internet/network speeds, it's just not going to be doing a whole lot so kinda snake oil-y. I always figured he was a bit of a bootlicker but yeah just a usual kinda bougey tech nerd type who's an unapologetic serial entrepreneur. Your typical libertarian type who just believe in their personal freedom to take advantage and exploit people and justifies it for various reasons that amount to their "superiority". It's just toxic and an approach to things that if allowed to persist that at scale just creates so many problems and waste that are just unnecessary and further escalation of existing problems. (of course, he's a pretty minor case in the larger picture, but a part of a cultural problem) "The nontechnical user i convinced it was useful to thought it was useful and paid me for it, so it's obviously fine. The market said it was fine. I did nothing wrong, I'm totally innocent!"
Sounds like he just took the easy street after Microsoft. Either Stay and be made to do actual work, or start a new company that saves the unknowing civilian from the Boogie man inside the PC and the internet lol.
Seems like he got away from it before it ruined him completely 🤣.
Can you try to reverse engineer these programs to actually see what they are doing? It would be interesting to see other malware/viruses/pups reverse engineered aswell.
While I don't disagree on the exposition of the facts about Dave Plummer, I find it quite irritating the arrogant tone, especially in contrast with the clear lack of technical knowledge. As also stated elsewhere, memory can be fragmented just as well. The fact that it has been designed for random access doesn't imply that aligned data isn't going to speed up stuff. Again, as already pointed out elsewhere it is highly likely that the software mentioned here did nothing to realign memory chunks, but this is already quite clear to anyone.
Why not keeping the presentation to a level more suitable to your skills?
Dave’s fake software was better than Norton Utilities, which used more system resources than it freed up. I don’t know how many times someone would complain of a slow computer and they “optimized” their computer with Norton. I removed it and the system was back to normal.
Dave Plumber is a legend, I don't care if a bunch of people have decided to tar and feather him for something he may or may not have done over 20 years ago
Regarding memory defragmentation. I assume, the uploader never heard about memory/heap fragmentation? Memory allocation/trimming? Do your research before uploading videos. I am not defending software which is being demonstrated, but this is just a fact, that memory fragmentation exists and can lead to performance issues.
TCP/IP is a protocol not a stack, that is what the “P” stands for in both acronyms. Also fragmented ram is a real problem if you have a small amount of ram and limited address space as new allocations of buffers, etc need to be made from contiguous free memory or they will fail with an out of memory error. Not saying the tool works, but it is not making up the issue.
Wow. I mean, I didn't trust this guy for a long time, but this goes beyond what I thought him capable.
I enjoyed some of his videos in the beginning. Cracks started to show for me after he made that language benchmark series, asking for contributions of code, and then just forgot about that and moved on. Kind of dick move for the people that spend time on it (I did not, but would've been very annoyed). Then he started to make ever more egregious claims, and started putting autism in every video title. When he then released that book with that title, I knew that he was clearly not the kind of man that I wanted anything from.
Neato another hitpeice about something someone did before half the people watching this were even born, poorly researched too as dave has mentioned this before, its also not a secret it's literally on his wikipedia page, and calling the software a scam is pure ignorance, as someone else mentioned in the comments ram defragmenting is a real thing, and old on windows OS's registry cleaners did actually do things and could fix issues with your machine. This just reeks of clout sharking.
you never actually corrected your videos and the thing with thinking you are setting up the system user when in reality the oobe was checking for updates
RAM fragmentation is a real issue inherent to many applications, but it requires reconsidering whole memory management strategy. It is also largely internal within individual pages, so operating system can generally do nothing about it.
Only some virtual machine based runtimes can defragment their RAM. Even where it is hypothetically possible, most such runtimes do not, because overhead would be too high.
The claim by this utility that it can defragment RAM is misleading, it can do no such thing.
Memory is divided into fixed-size pages (that you can traverse and link in any order) which then get allocated to running programs, so I'm pretty sure it wouldn't do anything in terms of that
@@FemboyCatGaming There's also something suspicious about his machines. He has over 100 TB of storage on his main PC. Even if you were dealing with gigantic AI datasets, you wouldn't need that much storage. Considering he also promoted Chia in the past, that could be the explanation for it....
He knows nothing about linux which doesnt stop him from yapping nonsense about it. Like when he said closed source programs were better after the XZ linux eploit when months later we find out Solar Winds happened because MS refused to fix an azure exploit which countless engineers and security firms warned them about as admitting to having a security vulnerability would lower the stock and risk positional contracts. isnt closed source software SO much more secure Dave!!
Commenting for the algorithm. Knew something was up with this guy despite enjoying some of his content. Disappointed, but not surprised. Good work from you and all your fellow contributors for bringing this to light again, Enderman. I hope he addresses this properly; people deserve to know the truth. Even so, I find it unlikely with his penchant for telling tall tales.
You just exposed former MS employee, I don't watch him for like 2 years, and I wouldn't watch his chanell. I better watch your chanel, to see more exposed tech scams.
What do you mean it makes no sense to defragment RAM? Yes it does, if memory is fragmented, it becomes harder if not impossible to allocate new contiguous memory.
@@SianaGearz Yes, the software does mislead what it actually does. but Enderman doesn't seem to understand enough about the topic to have accurately criticized the software. He should really do better
Memory fragmentation (more correctly heap fragmentation) is a real problem but the only practical solution is fragmentation avoidance, you can't really defragment it, not when you have a system full of applications written in C related languages or languages with a similar memory model, be it even Pascal/Delphi or anything of a kind. Where it is possible, it's impractical for performance reasons.
Microsoft Basic actually defragmented its own memory. On 8-bit computers. It ran at a leisurely pace of several operations per second on machines that cost a little more than a nice calculator and could execute about a quarter million machine instructions per second. Memory was counted in kilobytes and compromises had to be made.
You don't need to defragment physical RAM on PC because all pages are equivalent to each other, and contiguous memory is never needed, OS just pieces together a needed contiguous chunk of virtual memory from any random assortment of physical pages. The software is misleading in what it does.
@@nikkiofthevalley No it makes total sense, like I said memory defragers usually work by moving things in PHYSICAL memory, but they stay in the same place in virtual memory (because obviously, they have to). the one thing that seems to be complete bullshit is it seems to suggest as if memory fragmentation builds up over time, even between boot cycles.
Now the question really is, does his software actually defrag ram, it's a fairly hard task. I am pretty sure it is impossible to this if paging is disabled, as in order to move memory around without crashing the program, you need some way to make sure that pointers to that memory would still be valid
As an autistic person myself, I can understand miss remembering or some memories getting filled in with extra info I later found out my brain just made up.
I don't think it's scam. You can say it's greedy and annoying. Softwares you mentioned in the video according to how it's implemented they're not scam. For example the MemTurbo. Defragmentation isn't useless for RAM. Instead it's everywhere nowdays. Linux even have this built into the kernal. And it's technology keep improving. You can see the significant improvement of memory defragmentation(they don't call it defragmentation though) every 1 or 2 year from Android or any other operating system. And NetTurbo is same. According what he says about how it work in the website. It's basically tuning the tcp window parameters etc.. in Windows. And this is the problem that exists in modern Windows. With the default tcp window parameter in Windows. I can only get 10Mbps at long distance speed test have high packet loss and latency(1000km+). After tuning TCP window myself. I can get over 150Mbps on 300Mbps fiber.
Now expose the weird guy that claims he created iTunes and was better than Jobs (no joke, it's an Apple Ex-Employee that makes dumb takes online, hope you find something like this lol), cool video, and thanks for letting us now the scammy background of Dave, never trust your heroes they said.
I'm still watching, but I'm pretty sure your wrong or rather mistaken., especially recarding any malicious or bad intent on the vendors part and whether related to DP at all? . Will comment further later.
Looks like he does cover some of it, and his perspective on it, in the book. Still tbc if anything was deliberately malicious or directly under his control.
Crazy to think that someone can “claim” all these so called scams without actually reviewing the court documents, everyone just jumps on the bandwagon. Clickbait goes crazy! Just remember anything can look bad at first glance everyone should just do their own research to get the actual truth.
Digging up someones past in an effort to smear him sounds like judgement to me.
If he has changed and is no longer partaking in such activities, is he not entitled to leave the past in the past?
Why is it important that people know this, if it's not to simply smear him today for his past actions you have a problem with, then what is your intent?
Genuinely curious - not excusing his past but if this has already been litigated and court orders executed, it seems like this isn't enough for you? You have to take matters into your own hands to get adequate justice so to speak?
That sounds like you ARE wanting to be a judge in the court of public opinion no?
@@emre_ez i haven't read the book either but i think it's a bit judgemental to take a stance that he needs to apologize for something that doesn't involve you and based off snippets shown in this video (ie one side of the story from someone not directly involved)
It's the exact pitchfork behavior this video seems to be aiming for, which by all means you're entitled to do, it just seems like a whole lot of wasted energy over events from 20 years ago.
I'm of the opinion that ppl can and do change for the better (and sometimes worse) and airing out someones dirty laundry is in poor taste when it's already been through the courts and they've "done their time" or paid the price of past mistakes so to speak.
@@sirtra i am no hater. if an intresting piece of content of his showed up at my home page i would watch it. What i figured from watching this video is that in his book, he talks about this in a very diffrent way, misrepresenting what he did. I didnt read that book. Im just talking from the snippets of it shown in the video Edit: also, yeah he can be ashamed of his past, he should be. but he shouldnt go "we never scammed" (as shown in the video" but rather "We did that yes and im not proud of it i apoligize" etc
@@emre_ez how exactly is he hiding it? Because he doesn't wear a t-shirt with it printed on it or something?
There are 2 sides to every story but even if he is actively hiding his past, is he not entitled to since he has already been punished by ruling in a court?
Why does it upset you that someone may not be proud of their past and not talk or discuss it out of shame.
I wasn't aware of this before watching this video, i've watched and commented on many of Dave's videos so i like his content but i wouldn't call myself a fan. Does this change my opinion on him? Yeah a little but not significantly enough that i'll refuse to watch his content or feel deceived by him.
Certainly doesn't make me think more highly of his character, but i'm left scratching my head at the overly strong reactions as if ppp just found out Dave had cheated on them or something.
The tone and nature of this video is designed to do just that though, it gives more a "grab your pitchforks lets get him" vibes than "heres a little dirty secret about Dave he doesn't want you to know".
what hes doing isnt leaving the past in the past and moving on, but rather hiding the past. i took this video more as a message for him to come clean about this instead of dodging questions and misrepresenting reality (like in his book)
Hey Enderman i was wondering if I could give you a challenge you can answer no or yes but basically get a new cheap pc and then modify the bios taskmgr and cmd and run cmd and taskmgr on the bios menu That’s the challenge Ok
This is honestly a bit of a witch hunt, if you consider the fact that Dave is Autistic and an ex Windows dev he likely 100% believed these utilities were fixing things he saw as problems. Did they provide any actual benefit to the end user, probably not but to describe them as malware is dishonest.
Mate, the US government convicted him and he had to pay out half a million in fines! He absolutely is a scammer. And you can’t blame autism for putting those prompts at start up and shutdown
@@pidojaspdpaidipashdisao572 TCP/IP is a protocol *stack*, it's a different thing. and who is nitpicking if you literally commented something nitpicky?
@@pidojaspdpaidipashdisao572 1.he also sold scareware and rogues, it's literally the reason he got sued 2.me correcting you doesn't mean I'm more horrible than a former scammer, I may be nitpicky, but atleast it's far better than scamming vulnerable people
@@somerandomcapybara you are even worse than him. Stop nitpicking. This whole video is also just a scam if we look at it from his perspective. Yes he sold placeboware, so what?
More like Dave Bummer, but really I dont care and still like him. He is no worse than someone making drama/clickbait youtube vids, or all of us here watching.
Listen bro, and Broski’s, to take an angle here. I have to tell you this is just the way the Internet was during the 90s.
Dave is very transparent about how everything was new, was broken, or protection needed to exist, so we can’t blame our forefathers for pushing the limits in the name of science/experimentation/it’s just the way it was…
This video is interesting, I feel informed, but slow your role for real, take a deep breath and tell yourself you wouldn’t have done the same thing in the wild west of software 30 years ago, you know you would have ;-) (
Smart enough to capitalize off of vulnerable people? I'm sorry, I'd rather make something of value before selling it. There was plenty of wiggle room back then to make something great too, instead of scamming people.
To add on, the court hearing he admited to wrongdoing and paid his dues. Doesn't make him clean but I don't think he needs to come out now and do anything with it.
Yikes, Ender. It's in the past. Everyone has skeletons in their closet, NOBODY is squeaky clean. There's a reason every big YouTuber out there is being exposed for some kind of scandal or another. I wonder what sort of fucked up shit YOU'VE done in your time 👀 maybe an investigation into you is warranted?
Look, it's a guaranteed given that if you're interesting enough to make good content on YouTube, you're interesting enough to have done questionable or even downright morally bankrupt shit in your past. Let's all stop pretending like this is some big bad revelation 🙄
@@Endermanchso you were almost 3 years old when Dave was sued? Seems like you have no context for most of your ‘documentary’. You poor pathetic young man.
wdym nobody is squeaky clean? even registered pedos past should be forgotten? enderman at least wasnt trying to extract money from tech illiterate people in predatory ways - that is the issue
My past is 20 years, I haven't royally fucked up like that guy. I get what you're saying, but research me all you want. I haven't done anything vile like that. I honestly feel like different people draw a line in a different spot, but this surely crosses the line for me and recontextualizes Dave's work.
@@Endermanch you're in it for the clout don't lie you zoomer khunt. Dave paid for his crimes 20 years ago. He doesn't owe any of you an apology or explanation you delusional fcks
The virtue-signaling too. Like man, if you really care, keep talking about current software scams, where people are ACTIVELY getting damaged. Not this ancient lore about some retired engineer.
You're wrong thinking I did this for clout. This video isn't even doing well compared to what I could have produced instead of embarking on this 2-day journey.
I remember using MemTurbo with Windows 95 back in the day and actually finding it surprisingly useful - it's worth remembering that Win9x was an actual trash fire and would typically suffer significant stability- and performance degradation over time, especially after running particularly hefty pieces of software such as games. It wasn't all that uncommon to just have to reboot the system every so many hours during heavy use just to free up system resources that Windows itself just wasn't all that willing to release on its own. In that regard at least MemTurbo did help cut down on the reboots - at least on relatively low memory systems.
Of course, MemTurbo also instantly became redundant the moment Microsoft swapped the main Windows branch from Win9x to WinNT with 2000/XP, since NT was actually capable of reliably managing system resources where 9x just... wasn't. I recall the Win9x Task Manager was similarly rather unreliable at times when it came to shutting down programs that had stopped working, to the point where I used to use this other piece of third party software - WinKill, I believe? with the sole purpose of just sitting in systray and providing a reliable way of forcibly shutting down hung processes that Win9x itself just wasn't willing or able to close down for whatever reason.
It was kind of just what it was like running Windows back then - Win9x just wasn't either particularly reliable or stable, and bluescreens used to be far, FAR more common - it wasn't unheard of to end up seeing them on a weekly, or even daily, basis in some cases. Of course, none of this was helped by how much of a transitionary period this all took place during, either - you had the steady transition from the old ISA bus to the newer PCI one, and while PCI Plug and Play was generally pretty reliable, ISA Plug and Play was... less so - there's a reason "Plug and Pray" became a turn of phrase. There was also the whole 3D hardware accelerator revolution effectively starting with the 3Dfx Voodoo cards, moving on to the TNT2 and then eventually having programmable shaders introduced with the GeForce 3, along with all the changes to both OpenGL and DirectX happening during that while, and you even had the shift from using IPX/SPX to TCP/IP as the dominant protocol stack for things like LAN parties and the like. I distinctly recall the original Half-Life having an issue with IPX where it'd randomly disconnect you with a message saying "error: no error"
The thing about MemTurbo is that it was very much a product of that particular era and doesn't really make much sense outside of it - it exists purely because of how broken Windows 95/98/Me actually was, and the moment you swap to a version of Windows that's actually capable of managing its own memory with even the slightest degree of competency, MemTurbo instantly becomes largely and entirely useless.
5:24 TCP/IP “Transmission Control PROTOCOL/Internet PROTOCOL”. What part of that is lost on you? Ah yes, everything. Because you don’t exist on a level capable of explaining anything remotely technical. How do you wake up everyday knowing you exist as a YouTube parasite?
@@Endermanch Not only are you a parasite. You’re the very scam you cry about in your widdle video. Lying about what you found. Obfuscating information. Making assertions without evidence. You ARE the lowest form of YouTube content. Low effort, rage bait and convinced of your own intelligence. Go ahead, delete this comment as well. Just proves my point further. Ps, TCP/IP is still a protocol no matter how much you want to feel you’re right.
@@Endermanch No you… since I’m forced to operate at this level now 🙄. You are a parasite. I watched your whole video and came to the conclusion that your whole schtick is to generate outrage for clicks. Let’s take your registry cleaner segment. It quite clearly outputs the registry path, the key type and the issue. But you merrily skip over verifying the results to see if it actually is factual. You’re being disingenuous on purpose and just writing it off. You stalled when the post-clean scan came back with 22 results showing the scan actually did what it was advertised to do and then swiftly moved along. And then act amazed that a registry key could be blank from RTM. Your content is low effort, caters to the most basic of viewer (picture the dented head meme with drool on the lips). You’re lazy (finding the information in the court documents) and shows a level or preparedness akin to someone in a coma. But hey, since you can make these opinions about someone you don’t know, so can I. I mean, we both came to the same conclusion over stuff found on the internet right? Right? Of course I’m right. Not even questionable. And no, that’s not what a stack is. But stay dumb. Couldn’t have you evolving otherwise you’re have to put more effort into shitting out another video.
how god damn stupid you sound.. this guy was ahead of the curve they all installed broswer helpers or some sort of ad something. you cant even use the internet today with out a ad some where start of a video middle end load a website and 30 ads will load even before the content that you want does try facebook ADS insta ADS google ADS google email or any online email ADS you can not escape the ads where ever you go back in the days you need them mem doublers and what not to fake more ram then you had some times it was the only way to get some software to work
i cant remember the name of the site but they use to have broswers that would pay you to browse the web and look at ads i want to say it was hotwire
4:50 Um, defragmenting memory isn't about speed. 🤦 Imagine you have 10mb of unused RAM on a 16mb system and want to allocate 2mb, but all of the free space is broken up into blocks that are less than 2mb. You can't allocate it (at least not without a lot of hassle). Defragmenting the memory would reorder the allocated blocks to create larger CONTIGUOUS blocks of free space. (Now whether a program COULD do such a thing is a different matter, but those were different times, so it might. 🤷)
4:57 No, I absolutely do understand that "just-booted feeling", it makes sense. As you use the system and programs allocate and free memory, it gets more and more fragmented, which creates more overhead to keep things working rather than throw misleading and specious "out of memory" errors. Most people wouldn't understand why they're getting that message when it shows that they have plenty of free space.
5:07 Any time you see "up to", just assume that's the contrived gain in a fake, manufactured-for-best-results test scenario and you'll never get anywhere close to the boasted results.
5:24 You do realize that marketing copy is not written for techies, it's written for generic customers, right? 🤨 … 5:35 Never mind. 🤦
5:45 Meh, everybody tweaked registry settings for the networking settings back then.
6:42 Does ClipMate still exist? 🤔 ClipMate 4.5.2. 😀
6:40 Freeing RAM is NOT what TurboMem did (or at least purported to do). Freeing memory is NOT a problem, freeing CONTIGUOUS blocks of memory is. 🙄
de fragmenting memory has not been an issue for 40 years. there is no "continuous memory" anymore, the OS (or hardware nowadays) just tricks the program into believing it is continuous.
I think it has been pretty aparent that his main goal with his youtube channel has always been to make money. And he has autism. Some people with autism also have some anti-social personality traits.
I used to have a friend who was an autist. He liked to go into online games, pretend to be a girl and get gifts from boys. He also lied all the time. He wasn’t really a bad person, he just did not have any morals. Im not saying all people on the spectrum are like this, but some are.
He went on to work as cobol programmer at a bank. Im worried.
Registery Cleaners were common in the days, even renominated suites like Norton SystemWorks would offer something like that. Adware, yeah, the pest of the times, but today.... ads are included in your Operating System if you're running WIndows. Oh, how times have changed.
there could be something to the memory recovery and whatnot, i dont know enough about how windows allocates ram to be sure but it could have been kernel induced issues not the physical ram? and there might be rationale behind tuning some of the scheduler parameters but i dont even know if you could do that on the old nt kernel? if dave could show how this works that'd help. the software and website were still as scammy as anything from that era but i guess its worth noting that this was literally how tech was sold back then. famously the guy from mcafee gave a talk at mit (i think it was) talking about how to recover from failure and explained how they knew their product was sh-t and didnt work and some free options were better but they still sold the hell out of it and made a fortune. that was literally the name of the game for big players and small. i still think its reprehensible *but it was normalized a lot*, everything said "buy now or die!" for a while back then much like youtubers using clickbait titles and misleading thumbnails and the rest of it. gross but i think it deserves a little asterisk.
where i get really annoyed with dave's software is when i get a call from a factory who cant produce anything because their ancient industrial control pc with xp sp1 has a clicking drive. i swap the drive, it refuses to admit its licensed because the drive serial number changed, i cant upgrade to the last service pack that disables activation because that breaks their io card drivers, and im back to bypassing wga by hand again like its the fking 2000s. last time i literally punched my hand so hard my wristwatch exploded into pieces. for nearly my entire life the only people windows activation has ever stopped from using windows are the paying fking customers. wtf is wrong with people? do they actually believe wga did something meaningful to stop piracy? or was it all a psyop to calm spooked shareholders and everyone knew it was stupid but did it anyway for the anti-piracy buzzword in the monday meeting? well thanks to that i ended up going through a literal tornado at my hotel while spending 3 days fking with this. yeah fun times. i coulda fkin died while dealing with the dying gasps of microsoft's anti-piracy heyday. people didnt get to go to work and do their job and get paid. american products got delayed and a bunch of money was spent for nothing, i cant imagine how we're being beat by china though, right? while scamware is bad, that lot has done much worse and i dunno if adware qualifies him to stand out among his peers. look up the 'windows for warships project' (no really its real) for some real facepalmage.
I think your being a tad critical. Im still waiting to hear the scam. As someone who grew up writing basic programs, shareware, and uninfecting family members pc's I personally think it sits between tame and actually useful. I bet you half that software was for win9x. Several tools are unnecesary for xp but would make a HUGE diference in win 98. Things like the registry and how the DOS kernal cleared virtual memory was an actual issue that affected long term stability. Aloso had one of the worst out of the box experiences with tcp/ip. basically broken, took a year of tweakng to get it to reach google from my network. as far as ads, I still consider that free. And so does the industry, most free software/services (bar gnu) are ad supported. "Free to Play" also worth noting, theyre probably were viruses served indirectly. I recognize the gain ad network from comprimised family members pc's. ALWAYS VET YOUR AD NETWORK. its easy to use it as an attack vector for s third party to infect you while visiting a major website where security is expected( like google). I think your giving him the third degree but I do NOT obby you to remove this. Regardless of what happened, it happened, and good on ya for reporting it. You should do due dilligence by checking the WHOIS records from that time. I have my doubts Dave owned or even had a claim to the sharware site as I have seen tons of installed programs, over the years, claiming to be from that site. I imigine they were a third party that just hosted the downloads, such sites were common in that time period. Used to hate dealing with them
I stand down my comment on shareware online. id still like to point out that its possible that a third party ad company may have done this. watch cartoon online was a safe website but the ads served on it were not. Site was "legitimate" (as legit as a free movie site gets) but people still got infected for visiting without adblock. Webmaster was oblivious at first since he doesnt get ads on his own site, and after that he couldnt find another company that would do bussiness with his. So the sites kinda stuck in limbo. offical solution sign up for no ads, unoffical solution use adblock
Memory defragmentation is a real thing, but I'm pretty dure it only makes sense on a process-by-process basis. Physical RAM addresses are calculated by the processor's memory management unit using page tables that are set up by the operating system. Pages are all the same size (usually 4KB on x86-64 processors) and can be moved around arbitrarily by the operating system, so I'm not sure what benefit, if any, you would get from defragmenting physical RAM, which is what the MemTurbo application claimed to do...
However, for individual processes, fragmentation of the virtual memory space can be a concern, especially if you're running 32-bit x86 code, which is restricted to two or three gigabytes of virtual memory (depending on how much is reserved by the operating system kernel). It can also be a concern if the operating system allocates memory to you by giving you one big continuous chunk of virtual memory and you can only adjust it by moving the upper limit of that chunk, which I believe is the traditional way of doing things in Unix-based systems.
Your process can wind up wasting lots of memory if it's allocating and deallocating space within its virtual memory for data structures in such a way that you wind up with lots of little holes in memory and no longer have enough space for a big array, for instance. Or maybe you wind up asking the operating system to reserve more memory for you than you need to.
Anyway, my point is that memory fragmentation/defragmentation is a thing to worry about, but I'm pretty sure it's something that has to be handled by applications themselves.
I am not really an expert on such things (I'm a mathematician, not a computer scientist), so I welcome corrections.
This has huge Davidsfarm vibes who is a paedofile from Lucan, Ontario, who crashed cars in the early 2010s (the “redneck rollercoaster”), became a Youtube partner and betrayed a lot of people.
Why just why… I thought David’s Garage was trustworthy with computer stuff. Evaluate everything.
@@Freedom4Ever420 I don't know how I feel about these software pieces. They don't seem too severe.. Maybe because I have seen worse growing up? That might be controversial, but his comments on tw was so lame for me. Crying about someone defending themselves from a home burglary tier comments.. Made me immediately unplug. But I don't have any other qualms with the guy other than his takes on policies that makes our country more 3rd world.
you sound insufferable and autistic. cant imagine wasting autism obsessing over closed source microshit software. shouldve picked up linux or something
I think that lots of people can tell instinctively when something isn't right about someone's personality/demeanor and I remember subbing to his channel at some point, and then after a few videos, I unsubbed just because I didn't like his attitude. So, these findings are 0% surprising lol. People NEVER change. I'm sure that he's just as much of an immoral POS these days as he always was, he just hides it much more methodically, "experience" and all. He's a very self-entitled person and has the classic domineering attitude of a scam artist. The absolute best approach towards people like that is to delete them from your memory. Don't fixate on garbage humans, it's not worth your time and attention.
If he really is autist, it casts a big shadow on the group of autists and does a disservice (even if every autistic person is different), when he made questionable decisions.
Бащированный инглиш 👍 А Дэйв просто мале́нько п...здабол ещё с того видео, где приписал себе создание 3д пинбола. Видимо, многое на старости лет в башке напуталось. И этот эпизод скипнулся
Without any comment on anything else presented in this video, I had a shareware version of MemTurbo off a PC magazine CD and for whatever reason my Windows ME shitbox was unstable and hanging/blue-screening, MemTurbo legitimately helped. It was probably a hardware issue in the end, but I personally received genuine value out of the software.
@@xgui4-studios also more than likely, I ended up going back to Windows 98 SE on it that I borrowed off a mate and things were a lot better. Still though, I think SoftwareOnline was probably started with good intentions, but very clearly lost their way.
Relax man, it's the usual stuff. Software that doesn't actually do anything but looks cool, antivirus that looks intimidating and pretends to protect and save your life, from day 1. Software that either installs the adware along itself, displays ads inside itself or is an adware to begin with.
You know how many modern reputable corporations did it, right?
Claims as of recent that “MemTurbo did not increase performance”, even though the ad for it in CpuRocket says that you should upgrade to it for “maximum performance”. I guess he admitted to lying in a way. He just won’t say that he did.
Spywarenuker was a pretty agregious bit of malware back in the day, i've also had problems with Avast, and AVG as well. As AVG is basically Spyware in itself, and it almost impossible to remove on older versions of windows, at least Avast is just infuriating to use, and has gotten worse over time. FreeRAM did the same thing, and was actually pretty useful, and is still available to download, although it's not been updated since 2007.
Scam is used too eagerly. Some products do perform tasks, just weakly like PuPs. The court judgement is justified however for the security software as that was milking the cow too much. Sounds like he didn’t know what to do when he left Microsoft and chose the path of marketing greed. You know, what America is known for!
The thing about InternetShield is at its core it could have been a valuable product. Today we have Google Safe Browsing and similar offerings by other vendors, which provide a constantly updated blacklist of dangerous websites for browsers to use. Of course the problem with InternetShield is it uses manipulation as its core sales tactic, with scary large numbers (likely they just enforce a site blacklist somewhere) and taking what could be a very simple product and making it seem complex and important, and thus worthy of being expensive. And as was the case with Registry Cleaner, the "sample" fixes for the trial are so small as to be useless. The trial's only purpose is to scare users into purchasing, not providing them with a usable sample of the software's functionality. I suspect that is the main cause of the court's ire.
Doesn't use hosts? Might be messing with networking on a lower level then to block packets or something.
A couple things: 4:20 It does make sense to "defragment ram", just not for the same reasons you would defragment a hard drive. When memory is allocated it's pinned in place and as memory is allocated and freed (if you're lucky), it becomes harder and harder to allocate large chunks of memory, which was a problem in those times. Remember back in those days we were rocking mere megabytes of memory. This is one of the reasons why older Windows versions would frequently need to be restarted. Never used MemTurbo so I can't speak for its actual effectiveness, but the idea itself is not silly.
NetTurbo changes some very well known network settings that could in fact increase your network performance. Whether I'd pay for software to do it is another question (I clearly wasn't in the demographic since I knew how to do this myself), but the technique behind it is sound, if not a bit overstated. Some of those settings were damn near necessary to play online games with any regularity. I'm gonna be real man, so far you're not batting very well.
I'm glad you agree NetTurbo is a scam. I don't think RAM defragmentation is a job of a utility, and if it's done, it's done by the OS. RAM is optimized for random reads and sequential speed isn't significantly faster, but I would assume it's a rare occurrence when there's a chunk that can't be allocated and it's due to fragmentation. But when that happens, the OS surely autodefragments it.
You need to avoid memory fragmentation, but once it has happened, it's generally way too late to do anything about it. As such the application like that can do absolutely nothing about it, as you say, the allocations are pinned in place (in the logical address space of an application, from which the allocations occur), because the memory can be referred to by pointers and pointer-offsets which are generally impossible to enumerate and fix up; and when they are possible to enumerate, it's very performance prohibitive.
What the application really does by all reason is just allocate and dirty to force everything into swap. Ascribing mechanisms and properties to it that it doesn't provide helped him charge higher price for it.
There are some examples of memory defragmenting, but it must be foreseen from ground up. Microsoft Basic on 8-bit computers defragments its memory. It was spectacularly slow, but you didn't expect much of a home computer at a price comparable to a good pocket calculator, compromises had to be made.
@@sirflimflam I agree, same for Registry app - if you know programming, then you know why it showed up those results on clean sys. Author should learn more and dig deeper then just scraping the surface. I highly doubt author's programming knowledge.
Back in the Windows XP days and earlier "win rot" was a real problem. I remember having to reinstall XP every 6 months or so since it would slow down just through normal usage. Vista/7 largely solved this problem, at least for me. But until then there were definitely a lot of tools claiming to be able to help with this problem without the need for a full OS reinstall. Some apps did indeed leave behind cruft in the registry. It was more than just folders, you'd have things like broken links to DLL files that had been removed when the application was uninstalled, if the app did not properly clean itself up. In theory Windows was spending some time trying to load these files for their original purpose which could result in performance degradation over time. Not really sure what factor this played into win rot if at all. And the weird thing to me is, Dave being an ex-MS employee who worked on Windows would have been the perfect guy to develop products for this space that actually legitimately helped.
Also 42 is a low number for these types of tools IIRC. So I wouldn't hold that against them. Though they are claiming "Empty key" is a problem (and in fact if you remove all of those I am betting that number goes down a bit) which MS likely does not consider it to be and I doubt they have a performance impact. However some of the other messages like broken file associations do have a fair chance of being legitimate, I feel, though I seriously doubt this software fixing them would noticeably improve Windows performance.
Would be interesting to actually see a commercial/cracked version of the software run on a mature system that has had lots of third-party software added/removed (to the tune of thousands of issues detected) to see if it actually makes any sort of performance impact. I feel running it on a new OS image isn't really that interesting.
That said the popups on restart and started are REALLY scammy feeling. To a lesser degree is the little warning dialog it opened when you first ran it (warning dialogs are for informing the user of problems, not conveying general information about a product). And of course the primary purpose of the trial is not as an actual sample of the software functionality, but to pressure the user into purchasing. Alone, the trial has no practical use in and of itself.
I did not reinstall XP, 2000 or 98 every 6 months, absolutely not, i didn't even reinstall them with major hardware upgrades. I have seen what these types of utilities do, and i'd say on the whole they contributed to windows rot, because all sorts of random things would break leading to reduced functionality and performance. I have had to do a lot more maintenance on my father's PC and he used these software extensively, the psychological manipulation by these tools is too great. And then he keeps saying "i never had issues with it", yeah well it's not him fixing the damage but me, and it's often noticed weeks later, the mystery issues must have come from something. Attempts at aggressive cleanup were prone to messing up the component refcount, later messing up the uninstallers and causing them to not do their job properly.
I had some tricks like deleting root PCI device and manually manipulating preload drivers in the registery when i needed to move the system to an entirely different CPU; also Windows 98 was very fragile with regard to DMA mode in the IDE driver, it would sometimes disappear from random faults and would need to be re-enabled manually, and without DMA the performance would be quite painful. The windows built-in disk cleanup utility was good and harmless. Defragmentation was a must, and some of these utilities were better than others.
Broken DLL (actually COM/OLE) references they all don't really matter, Windows won't try to parse the corresponding registry keys unless an application requests the DLL, at which point, does it even matter, the application is broken or gone, right. It's purely manipulation by the tools to make it feel like they did something.
MemTurbo could be one of those apps that eats up all your RAM to pressure Windows and applications into freeing RAM assigned to cache. So then it can technically claim it does free up RAM. The problem is this RAM was being used for the useful purpose of cache, and is now being used for nothing at all, which is useless. And if the cache's RAM was needed for some other purpose, it would have been freed anyway. So generally such tools are useless and counterproductive since the system is likely to run slower while it rebuilds the cache. Windows largely solved the problem of these apps by making "Free RAM" numbers less prominent in Task Manager in favor of "Available RAM" which counts both free RAM and RAM being used by Windows for cache.
The description is of course misleading, it's guaranteed to be a memory eater forcing swap.
Though such a utility would still have had tangible usefulness. Because when it consumes RAM, it would just dirty each page, generating no disk loads and only disk writes, and the only writes would be to a swap file which would ideally be near-contiguous, in reality it often wasn't but better than fully random.
When you load a memory hungry application which loads a lot from disk, then you have the problem that the system needs to simultaneously evict things to swap, and load things in, which causes the hard disk to seek between fully unrelated areas with reads and writes fighting against each other, which takes a lot longer and feels much less pleasant. You're not at all spending most of the time on real data transfers but waiting for head movement. Particularly bad in the era before command queueing and dynamic head path planning.
Of course the flip side is that when things need to get swapped in again, it's worse than before, but if you knew what the utility is doing, this may well be a compromise you're willing to take. Then again, if you did, should you have been willing to pay $30 for it, or rather closer to $5? I think unsubstantiated claims made it a chunk of money.
I thought it obvious the dude is dodgy af. And I really dislike boasters. A life of lies; but to the contrary, it's interesting that autistic people are known for their blunt honesty. I wonder if he has a diagnosis, wouldn't be the first imposter. But given these particular issues of concern that you raise were 18 years ago, should we be holding him accountable all these years later? I don't know the answer, but it does speak to his character.
Every person on the spectrum is unique in their behavior, so please don’t make assumptions about us. That being said, autism or not, he should be criticized and shunned for trying to downplay a literal scam operation he ran. Actions like that speak more about his character than words.
He once said that pirating software was hypocrisy, I actually pirated MemTurbo, and finding out it was made by davepl felt bad, but now feels good again
btw if you look closely at registry cleaner’s eula, you’ll see that it is developed by a company called SysTweak, Inc. that company not only still exists but also still develops the same bloody program under the name “regclean pro”
I had it right with computes all along; - they are best used either offline or on a small network at most, as music machines... - any decent computer can emulate many different classic synths...
As an application developer who worked on several applications extremely prone to RAM fragmentation, it is indeed real, but this RAM cleaner application can do absolutely nothing about it.
It became a massive problem eventually, which is why google's tcmalloc exists. Firefox also shipped a fragmentation avoiding allocator of its own, based on BSD's jemalloc, on Windows 32-bit.
the "secrets of the autistic millionaire" is that you too can be rich if you are evil! it's ironic, because autistic people tend to have a stronger moral compass, which is why we're poorer
I would not claim every piece of software Dave has been involved with at SoftwareOnline is a scam, but like he himself worded in that video/series titled: "Blame Me"–he is to blame for the sketchiness of those programs
So he went to Microsoft, made his bucks. Started a scam company, became a millionaire and got enough money to retire earlier. Got sued but not for enough to run his finances. Lived fine ever after and now scams people on YouTube by embellishing his work at Microsoft and pretending nothing bad was ever done.
I would like to add that ram fragmentation is a real thing but ppl confuse it with hdd defrag, ram de-fragmentation is achieved thru a few means like making structs in your program follow natural alignment so the compiler dose not add padding because struct{ int a; char b; int c; }; is going to be not 9 bytes as 4 + 4 + 1 but 12 bytes because there will be 3 bytes of unused space put after the "char b" by the compiler to preserve alignment,
There is also defrag inside memory allocators (malloc) witch was way more of an issue with old 32 bit computers that did not have such powerful mmu's that could just unbind entire pages of ram, large page support and also memory allocation algorithms not being soo fleshed out back then (the default vcrt malloc implementation is still not great to this day witch is why i use stuff like mimalloc) and you can even find ram fragmentation problems on gpu's as with api's like vulkan and dx12 you have to provide a vram allocator, look up on google there is a popular vulkan allocator called vma that has a html 5 generator for the memory map to check for fragmentation issues
NetTurbo would probably have been a legit tool. These days (I believe since Vista) Windows automatically grabs the correct values but on XP I have to use a similar program (And now a .reg since I exported the values) to get the most out of my network adapter.
The confrontation with NCommander left a bad taste. To me NC has done a quality tech-journalistic inquiry, whether you agree with conclusions or not, the way they arrived at them is well substantiated and verifiable.
273 likes2:32 info-zip was first released in early 90s. It was open source permissively licensed available in Pascal and C and EVERYONE was using it. Notably, it's not the original implementation of Zip, that belongs to PKZip. So i think "wrote zip folder code" is applicable because the actual unzip implementation was a solved problem, and the key innovation was specifically hooking into Explorer's filesystem handling.
I don't actually mind the vertical watermark thing, by all reason it could have been as he remembers it and then could have eventually shipped a different implementation. Rendering to an offscreen context has some pitfalls that it will sometimes break in adventurous ways, particularly colour manipulations can have weird adverse effects and ClearType interference, i can see why it was replaced with a bitmap asset.
4:30 memory fragmentation is a REAL THING and the prime cause of web browser out-of-memory crashes on 32-bit systems, but also affects numerous videogames and other software, it concerns a pattern of allocations which creates a growing pool of unusable wasted memory in between prior allocations. Of course the utility does nothing to combat it, it just wastes memory forcing the system to swap out, and then releases its memory. It can be seen as helpful as when you're launching something memory hungry, the initial experience can be substantially more pleasant than otherwise, since the IO pressure of loading in and swapping out no longer end up fighting with each other, which is quite relevant when you're dealing with a seek-limited hard disk. Website promise of what it does is misleading.
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@@OhhCrapGuy "C didn't have the ++ operator, that was introduced in C++, hence the name" is one of the dumbest and funniest things I've ever heard. Good example.
1 like@@hrr597 Apparently people do because it was changed. Learn to be a little bit more respectful.
2 likesThe commenter and everyone who respects NCommander cared. Feck off and leave the basement for once.@@hrr597
0 likesRecently, in his video on crowd strike, he actually described userspace code as running in Ring 1, which is absolutely does not. Userland is Ring 3. I know for a lot of people, even some userspace developers, the ring system will be news, but someone who wants to talk from authority on how to operating systems work would NOT get that wrong.
3 likesIt would be like someone saying "C didn't have the ++ operator, that was introduced in C++, hence the name."
If you aren't a programmer, that might seem reasonable. If you are a programmer, that person just outed themselves as not being a programmer.
@@lillywho no one cares
1 like@@GoogleDoesEvil I'm not a Windows 11 user, so I didn't know. Thanks for the info.
1 like@@gairisiuil Zip code was replaced in Windows 11
0 likes@@Kwpolska And now with 7zip support, it doesn't even report progress on the decompression until it's actually done, so you sit there wondering if it locked up or not.
0 likesYou're a man
2 likes@@Kwpolska I was writing something really long, but my opinion boils down to that 7zip is definitely faster, partly because explorer as a whole has aged pretty poorly in terms of optimization (I think this because code of the zip implementation hasn't changed since 2000, and it was fast back then), and partly because 7zip is just really good software.
2 likesThis reply contains false information. @GoogleDoesEvil pointed out below that the zip code was replaced in windows 11.
Good job! Very nice to see!@@SianaGearz
2 likes@@lillywho Fixed, i think.
3 likes@@Kwpolska without a doubt. Which is the age of said website.
1 like@@insanemalIt was acceptable with 2000-era single-threaded CPUs and spinning rust HDDs, but it aged pretty badly.
5 likes@@Kwpolska I used zip folders when it first shipped. It was fantastic for the time.
3 likesThere exist no publicly known Windows NT builds with the automatically generated start menu banner. Dave tried to defend his BS by talking about early beta builds, but they have a bitmap too. His video makes it sound as if millions of people were using "his" start menu, and he shows screenshots of the final NT4 build. In reality, his code was so bad that it never shipped in any known releases (and NT4 was a short project that only switched the shell).
11 likesThe zip folders thing... He integrated a crap library with Explorer. Every time I accidentally use Dave's zip folders instead of 7zip, it's slow and annoying. Not much to be proud of.
Thank you for this. You basically sum up everything for this, and its nice to know that actual work beats clickbait time and again.
44 likesI wouldn't say the memory defragmentation tool does nothing.
6 likesIf you could be so kind, NCommander uses they/them pronouns.
9 likesyes. certain tools whose offshoots are still brazenly marketed today actually had TRUE value back in the days, simply because of fundamental difference like 16 vs 32 vs 64 bit arch or other similar fundamental workings of computers back then. so at least in this regard it is not apropriate to come to quick judgements.
6 likes@@Endermanchthe "stupid stuff" was accusing Linus Torvalds of bundling binary blobs in the Linux kernel. that's a blatant violation of the GPL and we would've known by now.
52 likes@@SianaGearz I was aware of this, but didn't want to include in the video. I think it's unrelated to the subject. There's another episode where he claimed some stupid stuff about Linux, it's available on Reddit.
63 likes@@SianaGearz Weird. Thanks for the context
7 likes@@walllable Dave and NC brought out videos about Space Cadet Pinball around the same time. Dave claims there's no 64-bit pinball for reason... i forget. Raymond Chen says he remembers that it was buggy and didn't work properly. NC found a version which is 64-bit native and actually DOES work properly, and he experimented with his own machine code level fixes for the issues.
86 likesThen Dave accused NC of stirring up drama and being clickbait, which is as far as i see it completely uncalled for.
What happened with NCommander?
6 likesNever ask a woman her age. A man, his salary, and what dave plumber was doing in 2003
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💀 Idk how often I've encountered this already but it gets
0 likesme in every case XD. So old and good. It never dies.
woman also work nowadays?
0 likes@@Bruno_Knoxx discussing compensation can result in hurt feelings. but I'd rather people get fair treatment than worry too much about their temporarily hurt feelings. sometimes you gotta crack an egg to make an omelette. of course if all the people involved know they work at a place that does unequal treatment of employees, and the employees aren't going to band together to try to demand fixes for it, then it'd just be rubbing salt in the wound.
1 likethis is why some nordic countries require compensation to be publicly available information (with some limitations, but much fewer than in other countries). they have a LOT of trust built into their society, though, so it wouldn't work nearly as well in a lot of other countries. not without a ton of social change first.
This whole "don't ask salary" stuff is something made by corporates to avoid paying equal salaries. Buuuuuuuut, its something good too, not totally evil.
15 likesThat was just my 2 cents; enjoy the meme ;)
@@SomeAngryGuy1997 it’s a meme pal
21 likes@@SomeAngryGuy1997 apparently angry guy
20 likesBullshit. Especially the salary part. Salary should be discussed
18 likesIt honestly boggles my mind how someone would retire from Microsoft just to make adware and scareware to scam old ladies 💀
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@@Barnacules Bro you have nothing to add to this, I remember you going apeshit on youtube in 2016. You had the worst case of the TDS I've ever seen from a tech channel lmao.
0 likes@ns3421thelocomotives Is he really? Or is it a matter of visibility, Microsoft does a lot out in the open for how exposed everything they do is.
0 likesThey're all like this however, didn't Facebook have rootkits on people's phones to track what they were searching on Google and stuff? They're taking the term benign programmer term "hacker" too literally imo lol
When i re-watch Pirates of Silicon Valley nowadays, when Jobs talks about how his employees are pirates, nowadays i imagine they're installing rootkits on my machines and trying to steal my search and activity data.
@@yoymate6316 I mean, I want to accomplish things in life. Sure, I'm not rich or anything, but I have a lot of fun projects and challenges to work on. And often enough, I even get to make people's lives better.
0 likesMoney is a terrible way for the value of your life. I mean, can you imagine literally any other endeavor in which a single scalar value would be a smart way to measure a system?
@@Barnacules LMAO ex microsoft employee beef
0 likes@@ArmelM101 Especially considering how much other old school MS alumni have achieved after retiring. Pretty sure this guy worked there around the same time as Gabe Newell.
0 likesThere’d have to be a giant-assfuk ton of cash because MSFT stock in the 90’s and 2000’s was NVDA or AMZN today. Crap ware to scare rubes. Come ON!
1 likeWell, looking how i windows look today, im not suprise, than old employee wanna part od cake for that, someone who buy this fake software is proof than everyone can use computer, not everyone should.
0 likesWho's two bananitti anymore until they started making spyware@ns3421thelocomotives
0 likesfor such a yee yee ass company called "SoftwareOnline" as well
0 likesi thought he was a good old man youtuber. i didnt watch his videos. most prolly i didnt like it.
3 likes@@yoymate6316 if we were going to ignore all ethics i might as well search for a costumer support job in india
0 likesWindows XP made me a lot of money as a technican had to clean this trash on people's computers
15 likes@@DogsRNice Dave truly was ahead of his time
3 likeswell… ethics aside, which would you prefer: work your ass off for a good salary or sit around and get millions doing very little?
23 likesMicrosoft taught him how to do it! 😂
48 likesTrue. 💀
6 likes@@DogsRNice true that lmao
6 likesMaybe to proof a point to Microsoft, that they didn't treat customers and security seciously? Remember those days when people occupied Microsoft to return their copies of Windows?
0 likes@@DogsRNice and adware
67 likesUnlike the current employees of Microsoft who are making spyware
168 likesThis is like learning one of your favorite musicians quit Iron Maiden to join a cover band and got caught selling oxy out of the back of the tour bus.
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@@tankermottind very quirky and yet perfect way to describe the situation 🤣
0 likes@@Barnacules Never meet your heroes, I guess...If I heard the Elon thing, I'd 100% have been done with him on the spot.
4 likes@@chuuisinsane
7 likesBasically this dude was selling fake oxys filed with pig dewormer... lol
Would it really matter if they got caught selling drugs in either a band or a cover band? I mean, it comes with the territory.
0 likes@@charlie_nolan He literally changed the twitter logo to doge to try and bury news coverage of the trial he had for the doge coin rugpull
1 like@@Barnaculeswhere/when did that happen?
2 likes@@Barnacules Didn't know you watched Enderman!
12 likesSeems from what you say, Dave must admire a criminal who gets away with the crime, since he didn't himself.
A lot of us really liked Dave’s content before discovering something off about him. Even before this video we parted ways with each other after following eachother for a long time since we both came from Microsoft to YouTube. But he was defending Elon Musk doing illegal things to make money and getting away with it saying it should be celebrated that he’s smart enough to game the system. That instantly raised a bunch of red flags.
33 likes@@rocket2739 I realized after posting that that while I don't actually know about the oxy, Paul DiAnno did quit Iron Maiden to do covers! 🤣
17 likesthat sounds oddly specific
24 likesand the oxy was laced
33 likesNo way bro, I actually liked the guy a lot too, actually sad 😭
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@@BarnaculesHow when where
0 likesMe too.
0 likesYeah
0 likes@@ILoveGayMenToMyCore😠 😡 👿 😤 🤬
0 likes@@guestc142go check the ncommander thingy
0 likesI had no freaking idea. Thanks! Now I’m going to unsubscribe and block his channel on YouTube.
1 like@@yoymate6316 sort by newest, you might see my replies
0 likes@@EStartive he still lies about things he did despite him not having done that
2 likes@@guestc142 He seems to be actively in defense of the behavior. He doesn't seem like he's really learned or moved on from it or did right by people in any way in compensation for the past. He just denies there's any problem at all.
9 likes@@Endermanch I wasn't thinking too great of him because he did seem to kinda suck up a lot to business owners and stuff. So it probably does track.
6 likes@@Barnacules He defended the elongated muskrat?
21 likes@@yoymate6316 he's definitely going about this the wrong way. I guess he doesn't want to be known for scamming, but I guess that has changed today
0 likes@@guestc142 he doesn’t seem to, however a number of his windows development tales were found to be either heavy embellishments or outright lies, soooo…
25 likes@@Barnacules Oh damn... D: ... ...that sucks.
7 likesYou can’t be blamed, I even liked the guy until he defended Elon Musk for committing actual crimes celebrating him making money by breaking the legal system. Now I get why he took that stance.
87 likes@@EStartive does he still practice this shady business? If he doesn't, I don't see a problem.
19 likeshe seemed so nice :(
23 likes@@Endermanch me too
7 likesI was thinking better of him too before I learnt this.
310 likesbro i swear we LITERALLY CANT TRUST ANY YOUTUBER
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After the MrBeast allegations, this is more true than ever.
0 likesAnd so does this channel you just watched apparently by that logic
0 likes@@johnsimon8457 Actually that was me in a Linus costume
2 likesLinus killed my dog.
0 likesWhy would you? It's not like you know these people
1 like@@AiOinc1 Let’s hit 21k likes
0 likes@@Barnacules hey Barnacules, ex-Microsoft employee, "insert ex-google ex-facebook ex-techlead jokes", how's it going
0 likes@@Barnaculeslol
0 likeswe used to enjoy your old videos tough
We can trust Endermanch
2 likes@@RanEncounter 1. HE. ITS A HE NOT A THEY YOU CAN HEAR HIS VOICE MF 2 mf i would like you to run malware on a pc connected on your home wifi it can virus all devices connected on your home wifi
0 likes@@chromedud no. You cannot trust enderman without verifying what they say is true. We cannot just selectively apply your critical thinking skills.
1 likeexcept enderman @SOTP.
0 likesI'm calling it in 5 years smth bad will hapoen@@corndoggoiscool8223
0 likesYou need to trust the Windows Modules Installer
0 likes@@SOTP. Yes and that is why you should never skip the critical thinking part and actually verify what they say.
0 likeswe can trust enderman
0 likes@@OhNoEveryoneDiedi agree
0 likes@@RanEncounteri think i said this wrong: point is, everytime ur subbed to a youtuber and watch them often, boom they get exposed for liking kids or something else
1 like@@SOTP. Why would you trust any Youtuber in the first place without critical thinking?
3 likesbut we can trust Enderman, right? ...right?
4 likesLeast of all ones whose descriptons start with "Let's hit 20k likes".
1 like@@corndoggoiscool8223 even blud got into trust issue fights two years ago i can remember it happening before my very eyes. i cant enjoy shit no more
0 likesatleast he doesnt like kids
9 likes@@muhammadajibakriaji3753I don’t trust myself though
0 likesNever trust anybody. trust yourself
2 likes@@corndoggoiscool8223 i got bad news
0 likesi mean we can trust enderman. he’s cool
8 likesYou can trust me, because I haven’t made a video in 3 years other than one weekly live stream 😂 So my fame level has dropped below the untrustworthiness sell your soul bar 😆
21 likes@@SOTP. Same as with any other person, the successful ones are usually extremely obsessive over the rest of their lives.
26 likes@@TuxraGameryes but how come like half the youtubers are hiding something
18 likesAlmost as if youtubers could be any random person.
51 likesOh fuck your right I remember when you could trust everything n199a and you had some community but everybody's blowing up
24 likesDave Plummer in 1996: Let's acquire people's trust!
636 likesDave Plummer in 2003: Now that I have everybody's trust, it is time to scam everyone!
Dave Plummer in 2007: *gets sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars*
Dave Plummer afterwards: Let's forget stuff like this was even real
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Him: Thats my autism not me!
1 like@@vinching926 autistic people are usually the victims of scammers, but never the scammers
0 likes@@vinching926 Or the narcissism spectrum.
10 likes@@vinching926 As a guy with autism that hurt me just reading lol.
13 likesLmao fuck that's a good joke haha@@vinching926
0 likesDave in 2024 (maybe): It's in the Autism spectrum?!?!
39 likesFunny how he writes a book about the secrets of how he became a millionaire while being on the spectrum and doesn’t include the part about running a scam that made millions after leaving Microsoft and paying out a settlement of hundreds of thousands of dollars and still having enough to retire for life 🤔 Seems like an important part of the story if you ask me. I wonder if he went into other scams like crypto and nft, etc that we just don’t know about yet. Usually when people are okay with scamming they will keep doing it so long as they make more money than they have to pay out when caught.
1 likeGreat job tracking all this down. Small edit here: These pieces of malware also had ads that popped up. I cleaned computers during this era and we used "immunization" or host file blocks and you didn't see the extra ads that popped up because the domains no longer serve those ads.
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Back in those days, there were a few companies, one of them intellisense, which aimed at injecting ads directly into the text of a web page. By searchnig for keywords in the text, then make those keywords clickable with reference to ad sites. We used to fix this problem using the HOST file, and my thinking here is, this is not something any windows user even today has a clue how to do, and so, it would be ligitimate to write a program which referenced those URLS to 0.0.0.0 or something automatically, just for the sake of avoiding this trash. Since I don't know how Daves program worked, this is how I assumed they worked, and OP too it seems, that would had been legitimate. Becausae those injected ads were absolutely scams. Very intrusive. The equivalent of today is an ad blocker, although back then they were directly in the text which was and is illegal, at least in my country, since there was no way anyone could see it was ads.
0 likesGood to see you here Titus. You, Enderman, and Coffeezilla should do a collab 😆.
3 likes2024 What a year for YouTubers.
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@@TheStiepen taddl has also done a self-exposing, entire childhood breaking down T_T
0 likes@@SianaGearz brief summary: there were at least 3 major creators on YouTube in the last couple of months who got accused (with relatively strong evidence) of abusive behaviour against their partners, among many other things: AnniTheDuck, Unge and Mois. The former two have taken a break (though Anni is already back), Mois is currently on the run, probably due to his alleged actions being relevant to the legal system.
9 likes4 is always bad news just like toy story 4
1 like@@LAUCHGeorge what's happening? I am fluent in German but don't watch any Germantube.
0 likesIdk if you r german, but if you are, you'd know how fucking true this statement is lmfao
10 likesUnfortunate, but informative. Thank you for your journalism
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@@TLAngus1337 A fellow Louis Rossmann enjoyer.
0 likesi know that line and i love it
8 likesSome people never change. It would have been different had he just come clean, been honest about everything, and just said something like "Yeah... I'm not proud of that." People respect honesty, but he doesn't seem to see an issue...
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Back then the world needed champions to address the tsunami of Windows shortcomings and rather than wear a white hat he wore a black hat to make money on the deal. With his insider knowledge, he could have made a difference. He chose enrichment instead. Sad.
2 likesYeah if it was clear he learned better and changed his ways and acted better it'd be fine. Not great because he's still yknow, benefiting in his lifestyle and stability by what he did, but better than he's doing.
18 likesactually, memory defragmentation is important for multiple reasons:
68 likes* external fragmentation results in lower probability of being able to allocate large pages (to solve this memory compacting is enough),
* if a large chunk is physically made contiguous (by defragmenting it) can mean being able to replace a 1024 4kB pages with a single 4MB page, with the result that the TLB is much better used, as it will only need a single entry for all that ram.
* only certain ranges of the physical address space can be used for dma, so being able to relocate pages can free those valuable pages for better usage when required.
* locally adjacent ram is read faster because it has higher chances of being predicted for caching.
I'm not aware if that tool defragmented the ram or was only snake oil, but in any case, newer operating systems already come with at least memory compactors
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@@jakobstengard3672 You can't step in and defragment the heap inside a program. That's inside the virtual memory space of the program itself.
0 likesBut step back to Win95/Win98 and you can ask the OS to defragment the physical memory assigned to the program.
Next thing - you say you allocate a large block that the program then makes use of. Nope. The program allocates an initial amount of RAM for the heap. When the program tries to allocate then malloc() [for a C program] tries to find free memory in the heap. If there is no free space large enough, then malloc() will force an OS call to request more memory to extend the heap size. So a long-running program with a memory leak can keep requesting more and more memory from the OS. And this creates fragmentation for the internal structures of the OS too.
For newer Windows versions, a long-running program that is properly releasing heap data can call the Win32 API HeapCompact() to let the OS see if it can reclaim heap memory no longer used.
For Win95 and Win98, that wasn't designed with secure process isolation, I'm pretty sure you had lots of options to force the OS to trig different optimizations that are not relevant today.
This post seems to trigger quite a lot of malice assumptions, based on people forgetting the big difference between now and 25 years ago.
@@Z3rgatul You are thinking about the use of paged memory, where the virtual me.ory can be contiguous while the physical memory was not. But 25 years ago, most people did not run NT or Win2k. And move to Win95/Win98 and they had serious issues with memory allocations.
1 likeBut there is another issue - the processor has a small cache to lookup and translate from virtual page to physical address. If your page didn't fit in this TLB cache, then extra work is needed to figure out the translation.
So you indirectly have fragmentation of the paging table data too.
Newer x86 processors can make use of multiple page sizes. So not just 4 kB page sizes but up to 1 GB pages. This helps keeping down the number of page mappings.
@@johnsimon8457It was relevant for a 25 year old Windows installation - which was what the intended customers did run.
0 likesAnd yes - it did a difference. How big, would depend on OS version, amount of RAM and actual usage patterns. So it was the kind of program where "try for free for x weeks" would be relevant - not all people would expect any meaningful improvement.
I only had Win95, Win98 on some laptops. On my desktop machines with Win NT 4 or Win2k with max RAM the motherboard supported, the program did not make a difference.
Normally you don’t allocate small pieces of ram, you allocate a big chunk and then you split that up inside the application.
0 likesNo other program can go in and mess around with another programs memmory except the kernel. So you need to be atleast a driver to do that.
What would it actually take to compact the ram for a process?
You would stop the process, copy memmory around on the OS level, and then resume the process. And then you have not defragmented anything inside the menmory of that process, you have only moved like, pages togheter or similar, with very little impact on the performance.
And the OS might do this when swapping in and out apps. So maybe Dave just triggered a swap, buy allocating a bunch of ram and then freeing it.
@@blarghblargh I see. Now I also think it was snake oil. Doing proper memory defragmentation will require very complex algorithm to be implemented, and you need kernel driver to do the job. Comparing to other Dave's software this seems like impossible task.
0 likes@@Z3rgatul 1. this was windows 95. never underestimate how awful the 9x kernel series was. hence why they ditched it for NT.
0 likes2. the program's virtual address space can also be fragmented. I am not super comfortable and familiar with how the TLB works (yet), but I think the fragmentation problem existed at two levels, and the OS probably gets around that problem by having fixed page sizes, and doing the virtualization as you described.
no idea what the program itself did tho. I suspect either snake oil, or working around easy kernel level problems. I really doubt it was going to reach into the virtual address space of a program and do anything about its fragmentation. it would have to find and rewrite pointers to be able to do that, and that sounds extremely slow and error prone unless it's in some controlled runtime/virtual machine type scenario.
and 64 bit address spaces reduce the problem significantly
0 likes"external fragmentation results in lower probability of being able to allocate large pages"
0 likesIsn't OS kernel smart enough to be able to allocate "contiguous" chunk of memory from the user space process perspective, but fragmented on the physical level?
Yeah this could use a few more up votes. I could see if he handed the reigns over the software company they doctored it up more than he originally set things up in the early 90s
1 likeCool, that’s a better explanation than mine. Still this is a job for the OS and not some 3rd party utility. On the other hand this is windows 95 and not NT
3 likesinteresting, makes sense
3 likesIn protected mode memory fragmentation is a thing that can slow down. As an example whereas the user mode thinks $0100 cames after $00FF, in physical memory that might be in a completely other place inside the memory.
1 like"this is informative, and unfortunate" -Louis Rossmann
19 likesWhile I believe that your past shouldn't define you, what actions you take to fix your past mistakes should. I'm glad that he has gotten away from scamming people, but he hasn't taken any actions to acknowledge his mistakes, which is sad. He seemed like a cool guy.
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@@iamnoname-a1 when does it come up? And every time?
0 likesDo you do that for every transgression in your life? When you meet a person, you shake their hand and then start apologizing for all the wrong things you've done decades ago?
@@iamnoname-a1 why and where would it ever come up?
0 likes@@sirtra It's more like if this comes up, make mention of what happened and involvement with it. Someone that is contrite in their past mistakes and actions, should be willing to show that they have learned from them and how they wronged others.
0 likes@@brookedoesstuff what action would be sufficient and who decides this? At what point can Dave move on from his past transgressions? When everyone in the world says so?
3 likesEverything in this video was already litigated over a decade ago and court orders issued.
Nobody is perfect but demanding someone "take action" beyond the court order tells me more about you than him.
If Dave throws a strike, that means the fraud story is true! I didn't expect him to do that...
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i heard that a good way to get unstriked is to just send law paragraphs to yt lmao
0 likesProbably thats why he unblocked andrew, to not prove he has something to hide, at least the rogues didn't brick the computer or replace the shell
5 likes@@Barnacules you never know... if techlead even after getting called out by every channel under the sun still tries to take down mutahar's video about him (and failing), it would be too far fetched that dave might try (and hopefully fail)
5 likes@@Barnacules Unc is NOT gonna get investigated by coffee zilla 😭😭😭
0 likesI don’t think Dave is dumb enough to strike this video knowing full well that it will just lead to it being invested further by even bigger channels like CoffeeZilla. But, if he’s scared about this getting out he might do it out of desperation. Wouldn’t be the first time we’ve seen it happen. Thankfully nothing in this video was outside of fair use and everything said was backed with public evidence available through Wayback machine. So any strike would be overturned in appeal.
104 likesAdd that info to Wikipedia, He is presented as a flawless figure
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The case has been mentioned there for a long time. The page is semi-protected and subject to the Biographies of Living Persons policy.
3 likesYou changed my mind on him...
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@@eobardthawnemcoc Age doesn't matter, just don't blindly trust anyone.
0 likes@@eobardthawnemcocdo you trust your grandpa then?
7 likesI never trust old men so i didn't got surprised he was sus like i knew he was sus from beginning... I only trust young men since im a kid but like yea
0 likes@@JustPyroYT Same mate. Watch as he'll give his judgement on this video at some point by filing false DMCA claim to suppress the information presented here, as many true-nature disgusting YouTuber does. So, don't forget to download this video and feel free to reupload in case this video get taken down.
3 likesI feel so betrayed 😭
17 likesMemory fragmentation is important: "Memory fragmentation is when the sum of the available space in a memory heap is large enough to satisfy a memory allocation request but the size of any individual fragment (or contiguous fragments) is too small to satisfy that memory allocation request."
1 likeThanks for covering this. I mentioned this topic years ago on various forums and in YouTube comments, and I got eviscerated by Dave fanboys. They buried their heads in the sand and made lame excuses, so I moved on. Yet here you present everything very well—much better than I did. Well done, and keep up the great content! 👍
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Ah damn. I actually liked his videos too, not to a fanboy level, but they always were interesting to me. Never knew about any of this.
6 likes@@Barnacules I was quite doubtful that dave even ran that site until I saw the court documents on screen. It would be nice to get a comment from him regarding it but it seems he's too busy dodging questions. Excellent evidence nonetheless.
12 likesHe did a great job showing the evidence in this video. It will be harder for Dave’s fanboys to explain it away. However, some will try, they always do. The ones that think if they hang in while everyone else goes away Dave will finally give them attention. I’ve seen it happen many times.
23 likesCitizen journalism is a good thing.
9 likesyou missed the part in the court documents about how it cant be uninstalled like normal
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This video was a bit unorganized. Should have used court docs to walk through what's provable 😢
2 likesThey should cover Adobe for that. CC injects services that run on the machine, and you can't go through normal methods to uninstall Creative Cloud fully. Not related, just interesting that they've been able to get away with this stuff and nobody bats an eye, and that the FTC is coming at them over their cancelation stuff, but aren't taking other things like that into account
0 likesMissed a lot more for example the whole scamming and defrauding which I couldn't substantiate at all from the sources
3 likesI have a weird feeling that this whole "registry cleaner" works almost exactly like ccleaner, so even on a fresh installation of Windows it still "looks" for problems and can find errors in the registry, even if there shouldn't be any.
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@@YS_ProductionExcept the junk is literally mostly empty keys that are taking up maybe 1-2 bytes of space. You aren't losing anything of value.
0 likesThe point is, it's not dangerous, an error, will cause performance problems, or something you need to fix. In fact, it's probably perfectly normal. It would have been better to check these keys and make sure they weren't made up by the program itself.
I think any registry cleaner can find stuff on a fresh windows install. But not every registry cleaner will scare you into buying it or another software. Also some don't trust ccleaner either.
1 like@@YS_Production Oh I did. Fresh install, used some "Optimizer". Broke Windows. Had to reinstall. SInce then I never used those funky "cleaners".
0 likesAh yes, this fresh install of windows has 50 viruses on it
1 like@@Incognitiv never used any registry cleaner myself and probably never will, but let's not be naive and think windows doesn't have junk in its registry right off the bat
7 likesAnd then you have "Defraggler" which takes longer to work on a HDD then the build-in defrag of Windows....
0 likesI have had to fix the registry twice - a registry key can setup a modius - Windows update has done it seven times in the last twenty odd years.
0 likesAnd CCCleaner also turned out to be a bit of a scam itself.
0 likesDave always triggered something suspicious in me... but I was willing to chalk it up to 20+ years of misgivings about M$ and try to separate the man from the company (he was a Dev and not responsible for the questionable things that the company did)... turns out I need to trust my Spidey sense
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He was always a blowhard, which is not in itself a crime, but when the real truth came out it made so much sense!
0 likes@@thepuzzlemaster64 If he mentioned others who helped develop relevant products more often, his channel would actually be interesting. Instead he just glosses over "other people helped" etc.
2 likes@@NitroDubzzz that is true through. at least for back then. source code was leaked in windows and if anything like that was found it would've made news
0 likes@@NitroDubzzz well the _NSAKEY is probably not a backdoor
0 likes@@thepuzzlemaster64I think the not mentioning others is mostly for when they don’t want to be mentioned (and from fear of legal issues as he probably learned with SoftwareOnline), because he does have other people on his channel and interview them every while.
0 likes"there is no NSA backdoor in windows" ok this guys a rat
20 likes@@klingoncowboy4 I mean, let's not go praising bryan lunduke of all people as someone better than this guy. You don't need to take another cow turd to avoid a cow turd.
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0 likesOh yeah, Bryan Lunduke is heaps better. He's the type of guy that even though I don't always agree with his opinions, he still comes off as genuine and overall a nice dude to hang-out with.
Speaking-of, a great video to compare the difference between Bryan Lunduke, and Dave Plummer is the open-source DOS 4.0 videos.
Bryan Lunduke's video talks about the oddities of the repo with how broken some of the files are, and how they don't mention which version of DOS 4.0 was released to Github since it doesn't quite match-up with the retail copy, and so on.
Meanwhile in Dave Plummer's video about it, he was able to compile it somehow through massive workarounds that are never shown, talks about his time developing part of it, and praises Microsoft for putting it out there for the public (even though no one can compile it).
You'd think a developer like Dave Plummer would be more critical about Microsoft's little blunders, but he just pretends they don't exist. Every time. That was the first massive red flag for me
@@thepuzzlemaster64 Yeah I prefer Bryan Lunduke for stories Y2K era Microsoft... he wasn't in Windows Dev ofc... and as with anyone I don't just beleive him uncritically. But he as you say he includes negative and positive moments as moments that don't always make him look the best.
6 likesHad a similar Spidey sense, but it was mostly how he acted. He felt a little too positive, a little too calm, a little too humble. There was still bits and pieces of his info that felt accurate, but things never 100% added-up. Some info didn't make sense, he'd always brush-off the negative stuff like it wasn't a big deal, and he'd try to avoid mentioning anyone else that should have worked with him (like the actual guys who made the original 3D Space Cadet pinball). It was always "me, me, me" with him.
31 likesNever really subbed to him because of that. I'd still watch a handful of his videos, but only the ones where other people covered the same topic, or if I was familiar enough with the topic. Even then it was just with a grain of salt, and as a curiosity more than anything.
For me it was the constant reminding in his titles with "by a Windows developer" that triggered it
63 likesSame
7 likesThe virgin Dave Plummer vs the chad Raymond Chen
48 likesI feel this video is going to end with a strike
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@@soundspark that last line
0 likes@mrfoxesite And as such he may be out for revenge even if it means going after people unrelated to his channel and have been in good legal standing for over 18 years.
0 likesAnd of course Enderman's intro is still an Enderman obviously having sex wirh a pumpkin.
a year ago he was almost terminated
0 likes@nezu_cc If it gets taken down on Community Guidelines then my arguments would be valid.
1 like@@soundspark YouTube doesn't get involved in DMCA, DMCA is a legal problem between two individuals. YouTube will temporarily take the video down, but if the other person decides to counter the claim at this point YouTube will do whatever the court decides.
1 like@@miniak2708 me too
0 likes@@nezu_cc YouTube will however see his history of upheld strikes and consider that in any appeal.
4 likes@@dlaczegomuszerobicnowykanal i need to hear the history behind ur username lol
5 likes@@hedwig7s if a strike happens he's basically digging his own grave. With the way the video is designed enderman could easily counter the claim and win making it even worse for him.
6 likes@@hedwig7scorrect, with the people already aware of this video the second he strikes it then the water is chummed for someone like coffeezilla to get involved. And something tells me Dave wouldn’t want people looking into his crypto wallets with a history of doing stuff like this. 😆
26 likesEnderman is big enough as to where it would backfire horrifically for Dave
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5 likesDownloading this video just in case youtube throws the forbidden thunder strike of deletion
78 likesSpeaking of misinformation, Dave stated that Linus Torvalds includes a binary blob in the Linux kernel that nobody has access to the source for. We know there are various closed source blobs in Linux drivers but Dave's assertion here is completely false: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqWjq2SdzpI&lc=UgwFYyE8lw0hQzBQj154AaABAg
53 likesMemTurbo: Defragments RAM
44 likesMy pointers: 👋
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@@o0Donuts0o Yeah lets just forget about regcleaner and him being sued for selling malware. The memturbo addressed a real thing! So it must be legit! Just like regcleaner addresses a real thing, so it must be legit!
0 likesYou can also ignore all the comments about this being pinned and liked by the video author. Sounds like Enderman is trying to hide this because of his blind hatred right?
I must be to the left of the bell curve and all those court documents, quotes from Dave's book, and live demonstrations of the software with credits to Dave's company website are just all a conspiracy
@@o0Donuts0o I'm a bit interested in how some viewers calls this journalism, while there is lots of snickering in the video instead of cool, calm and collected neutral reporting. Extra interesting given a large number of factual errors.
0 likesFrom a factual standpoint, I think Dave's programs was too aggressive about showing popup warnings. And implied way too big danger levels. And the actual court documents also shows that there was auto-selected options on the purchase forms - I don't like the automatic subscription etc some vendors tries to trick people into buying by preselected checkboxes.
This could have been a good video if it had focused on that. Instead, it contains a huge amount of factual errors about the programs, explicitly claiming the programs are scams by a video creator that just do not have the knowledge to discuss that subject.
One specific thing the court complained about is that the InternetShield did not explicitly test to access the over 2000 listed bad web sites. The scan did check the list of blocked sites inside InternetExplorer - so it would warn even if the user had blocked the sites by other means. The court document specifically mentioned the host file.
I'm not sure if there is a way to do a full scan as in try actual Internet accesses to the sites. It needs to be done by the IE engine. And it's specifically because the IE engine was so vulnerable that you do not want a drive by shooting by having IE connect to one of the bad sites. IE really was the most fragile and dangerous web browser, and a single one-pixel bad link from a page to a hostile site could have IE mauled. This was a time when we really did have to be very afraid of IE accessing a bad link.
Another interesting aspect about the court document is about uninstalling everything. Neither the complaint nor the judgement mentions what was left. But it would be a sad day for demo software which can do x file recoveries/cleanups/fixes if the uninstall must remove absolutely everything. That allows the user to uninstall and reinstall an infinite number of times to get around any "max x repairs in free version".
With today's sneaky inclusion of serial numbers in the processor, a backend server could be used to check if that serial number has been seen before. But "only works with Internet access" doesn't feels like an improvement. That's how we get software that stops working if the seller closes down.
@@perwestermark8920 Ah yes but your reasonable and logical response will not be adequate. The problem is that this type of channel only exists to create gossip and attract the type of mindless reactionaries who are addicted to being outraged. You could point out extremely technical information but that will not be enough because this audience of people who solely exist on the left hand side of the bell curve only want one thing. To be told what to think and what to believe.
0 likesThere is a concept known as memory handles. It's a dual-indirection where the handle points to an OS-owned pointer that points to the memory block.
3 likesThe OS can pause the program, move around all memory blocks - defragment - and update the second-level pointer.
The next time the program does a memory access, it can still use the same handle. But the indirection will now point to a different physical address.
Windows have special function calls to demand that a memory block must be locked. That's needed in case you may do DMA transfers in which case the hardware DMA would not understand about any defragment suddenly moving the buffer.
And you may also need to lock blocks in the lowest MB of RAM, because that memory might be shared with some old-school DOS driver/application.
So memory defragmentation is a very valid thing for situations where you don't have paged memory allocated to the running programs. We can't take Windows 10/11 experiences from 2024 and apply to 20-25 year old Windows installations.
@@vimicito programmers aren't always great at their jobs, and I'm sure it happened plenty ;)
0 likesThe idea is that when you allocate data using GlobalAlloc and the moveable flag is specified, you're returned an HGLOBAL that you can pass to GlobalLock to get a pointer to the memory you allocated. And once you're done with the memory (for now), then you GlobalUnlock it and the memory is free to be moved around by the memory manager. But yeah if you kept a copy of that pointer from before you'll have a bad time
Now that you mention it, it’s kind of surprising that everything wouldn’t segfault immediately after that “defragmentation”… I guess we’re both aware what that implies. Sure, dynamic memory is an abstraction from physical memory (that enables swapping), but still… I wouldn’t be confident about it doing anything at all.
3 likes16-bit windows would actually sort of defragment memory, since it was so scarce and more allocations increased the risk of allocation failures. You would have to make sure not to keep any stale pointers to unlocked global memory, otherwise you'd have problems.
6 likesThat sucks. Dave looked a really sweet guy and he do give a nice vibe on his videos, but looking at this is really sad. I really hoped he addressed this better, but it seems he do not take responsibility over his scam endeavors. D:
24 likesApparently this was "public" on reddit over 3 years ago. Was in a thread about Dave Plummer too, so it has been out there for a while. But clearly that didn't get enough exposure, hopefully this video changes that.
14 likesLet's not forget that he literally said he thinks Windows is better than Linux, I don't think you can trust any software dev that says that, not liking Linux is one thing (I personally don't cause I don't want to deal with all possible issues that can happen from the smallest things) but saying it's worse than Windows is a whole other thing.
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In what context though? Because if you think of it from the perspective of available software, then there is no doubt that wiondows is better. But which parameters did he use? Comparing for example vista to any linux OS, then any linux OS would be better no matter what because I have never seen any linux system which wasn't 3-4 times faster than vista. So again, in what context? What parameters were used to define what "better" is?
0 likesI find this more interesting than upsetting. Humans are complicated. I wonder how he feels about this period of his life now.
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20 years and nothing new coming? He probably regrets and feels embarrassed. No wonder he doesn't talk about it.
1 likeWould love to hear a response from him.
3 likesWhat a fantastic video. Thank you so much for making it mate.
5 likesI’ve been following Dave for about a year and been commenting on his Twitter stuff too. He seemed like an alright bloke.
But now, I’m completely disgusted by him.
I know he’s autistic, but imagine writing a book applauding yourself for being a millionaire when you managed that purely by scamming innocent people? What an horrendous individual. Has he no shame?
He’s basically The Wolf of Redmond
When Dave released a vid a few years ago promoting farming of some random crypto, that was a dead giveaway he's not clean.
64 likesConstant bad takes on many topics are also glaring red flags.
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“Bad takes on many topics” is a pretty subjective thing though. I thought there was a little bit of rich jerk hiding in there but he generally seems cool and I’m sad watching this.
13 likes@@Barnacules I think they mean his video about how to mine some crypto coin called Chia
1 likeDo you know the name of the video? I suspect the may have been involved in crypto scams too if he was willing to do this.
15 likesI remember seeing a reply to a comment on one of his videos that mentioned a "proprietary binary blob built into every Linux kernel that only Linus has the code to" and the only source I saw backing it up is Microsoft's Halloween documents. Weird of him to try and back up Microsoft's weird old propaganda
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He is correct in the assertion about blobs existing in most Linux kernels, but I do not think Linus has the source, it is just firmware
0 likes@@ShuAbLe are you thinking of BLOB (binary large object)? That’s different from binary blob (that’s referring to a binary executable)
4 likes@@zedzed3533He really did say that.
0 likesThe b in blob already stands for binary, you can just say a blob instead of a binary blob, which is redundant. The discussion is nice, just a clarification for the unaware.
6 likes@@minneelyyyy binary blobs do exist but they are all stuff like certain device drivers (mostly peripherals like wifi cards), firmware and cpu microcode updates which manufacturers don't wanna open source or can't (IP reasons), without the binary blob you cannot run linux on most hardware. This is why linux-libre (kernel with foss components only) systems only work on a limited range of devices without something breaking.
0 likes@@zedzed3533the Linux kernel itself contains no proprietary code at all. Binary blobs occur when devices either require firmware to be loaded to them by the computer (the case with many wireless chipsets), or there is no open source driver available for a device. In the former case the required firmware would have to be acquired separately to the kernel, and in the latter, it’s unrelated, since the closed source driver wouldn’t come from the kernel, but from the manufacturer of the device.
21 likes@@timecubed basically Linux is open source that meaning you have access to the code BUT there are some parts that are not really open and only contain executable binary. there are binary blobs in the Linux kernel mostly firmware stuff but im not aware if they are owned by Linus Torvalds or not (because you know pratical reasons). There are some kernels like Linux-libre that aims to be completely free software but they come with compatibility issues.
6 likesI don't think he said "that only Linus has the code to" he said "that Torvalds owns" meaning the was the one to push the binary code.
"binary blob" is a phrase I never thought I'd hear, but I wonder what that comment was mentioning
7 likesThis is unfortunate but informative. He should have owned up to, made reparations, and apologized for this a long time ago. It’s too late now though. I’ve unsubscribed from him. Thank you for informing us as viewers about when we’re being conned.
16 likesNo way, i never expected this from dave plummer
27 likesI hope rogueamp eventually comes back, we need more rogue AV reviewers…
4 likesDave's current motto: "Please remember that I am ~MOSTLY~ in this for the subs and like..."
7 likesManz he actually seemed like a chill YouTuber
12 likesDamn this really shocked me, i probably not gonna stop watching hos videos cus they are pretty interesting but im never gonna be able to look at him in the same way again
1 likebruh he said that the company was founded in 1984, then changed his mind and said in 1993...
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So he was 14 years old when he started the company?
0 likes@@munastronaut8147 Yes, but it seems you're assuming he did proofreading and should have caught the error. What comes to mind: all those emails where I wrote "The document is in the attachment", proofread it, and clicked send, only to get a response "Ahem, attachment is missing" or – if I was very observent that day – to have to send an immediate "sorry forgot the attachment" followup.
0 likesPeople are fallible; Charity principle; Hanlon's razer; Occam's razor; Do onto others; etc.
Also, without defending the things he has done, the law was served, and seems to have been adequately satisfied. He did not repeat the offense ever since, and he certainly shouldn't be made to preface every single thing he does with his complete history – that's an abhorrent thing to do (again, in cases where the offender "paid their dues"... but then again, I'm an European; and US-ican sensibilities [since most commenters are from USA] are often, frankly, not "sensible" to us).
Now, if he was giving advice on what type of company to start et cetera, then I'd might consider it a potential reason for disclosure, but only once at the start, and not every single time.
Additionally, that was 30 years ago, people change. If I can "painfully cringe" at my choices or writs from 15-20 years ago from the perspective of now (late 30s) and not be overly willing to re-live nor re-hash it, I am certain he is capable of the same. There is also the biological fact that every act of remebering - or just time itself - can change/deviate/color our memories from what factually happened; and the longer and more actively one lives, the stronger the effect (in my experience).
(Comment tone properties to apply for the whole of the above: neutral, non-emotional, conversational.)
@@cbs1710 I don't know why it got deleted, but I'll say it again
1 likeThe difference here is that Joe was making a speech. An oral statement. He can't change what he just said. On the other hand, Plummer here made a website. A website that can be edited and can have changes before publishing a new version of it.
compulsive liars cant keep their lies straight
0 likes@@YaySyuI think he has had two companies. He did have one since long before he started to work at Microsoft. The 1984 is probably a correct date for the company used to sell Amiga software etc.
1 likeHe probably killed off that company while working for Microsoft [somewhere after selling Microsoft the Explorer ZIP integration].
And then later started a new company - the one that made him decide to stop working for Microsoft. And I assume that's the company this video is about.
@@cbs1710The difference is that Joe Biden was making an oral statement. Websites are edited for hours at a time; putting 1984 must've been intentional.
0 likesAnd Joe Biden said "Putin", but meant "Zelensky". And my mother goes through all my siblings before she comes up with my name; just like granma, for reference. Point being: it's an error, not a potential case for a Hague tribunal.
4 likes@@YaySyu no, what the person is saying is that on the original site, it said SoftwareOnline was started around 1984, but then it changed to 1993 in the newer site.
0 likesThat sounds like he just mispoke
35 likesThis is informative, and unfortunate.
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Fellow Rossmann viewer
3 likesI think I know how to become an autistic millionaire now with this video
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Scam people (Dave Plummer) or become a right wing transphobe and change the name of a popular social media app (Elon Musk)
2 likesI wonder what I’m gonna end up doing with my life
everybody gangsta until Enderman drops a 30 min video
32 likesWhy does every single crusty piece of trashware come with a stupid CGI product box on the download page?
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@@loganmacgyver2625 >antivirus
0 likes>legit
all antiviruses are snakeoil and cant do anything 2.5 brain cells can also do
Because historically software used to come in big boxes, usually with a CD or bunch of floppies. Including the "big box" or an image of it gave a sense of "trust" because the company could afford to package their software in the "big box"? Even though there is no physical box to speak of? Maybe some kind of psychological trickery.
5 likes@loganmacgyver2625 another example is FL studio, which you can actually buy the box at some places
0 likesThey still do that with legit software like Eset antivírus (NOD32)
3 likesdamn, well, this kinda changes changes my idea of him
30 likesalso, i somehow didn't know he was that rich, i knew he was, but not that much
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@@kneel1 Yet all sources I could find has him worth $1 to $5 million, which is comfortable but not all that rich by today's standards.
1 likeyeah i assume most of the early MS guys are multi-millionaires (many times over) from the stock options alone. He even said he was spending 1mil per month on this adware nonsense and "sometimes it was profitable but on months that it wasn't, it was expensive burn" so he clearly had many millions to play with
2 likeshe seems to be so rich that he needs to tell everyone about it... smh
3 likesThe lawsuit against him by State of Washington was well-reported locally when it was happening. By any standards, it was a micro-scam. Dave Plummer is worth between $1 million and $5 million according to several online searches, I am not sure how accurate that estimate is but, that is what comes up. If correct, that indicates he is comfortable but is not jetting the Hollywood set or rubbing elbows with Bill Gates.
1 likeI believe people can change, but that's gonna have to start with him acknowledging this and apologizing, and by the looks of it, I don't know if that's gonna happen...
8 likescant wait for fanboys to start commenting he didnt do anything wrong :\
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It already began, it already began…
0 likes"hey pwease buy me" 🥺 was just too funny😂
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lol
1 like@@unyxium thank you lmaoooo
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0 likescan you give me the timestamp? when he said that
3 likesI've noticed that he is starting to remove comments, a comment asking him to address his past got over 100 likes and suddenly disappeared within less than 30 minutes. Hopefully his past will come back to his present and he will finally respond and acknowledge it.
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Me! It could have been mine. I commented 15 minutes after he posted. Though im sure theres more
3 likes10:38 BrotherSoft? Vargskelethor Joel stumbled upon this in a Windows Destruction stream while deliberately looking for viruses. Holy crap.
3 likesNo wonder his garage is dope a.f.
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0 likes"no no no, you see I didn't scammed people for this dope af garage. I've just written the task manager, the explorer, the IE, the entire OS so MS gave me a lot of money for my work"
4 likesfinally something that isnt being a pdf file
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why are you so relieved about the topic not being a pedophile expose?
0 likesyou got something to hide yourself?
also what's with you and a lot of others self-censoring the word pedophile as if its a racial slur?
and if its not the former, why are you so tired of such discussions, quite frankly we need more of them because, just like people who conspire against the regular person to usurp their rights as a human, they get worse the more we leave them alone.
Dave plumber should at least admit to what he did.
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@@Coldsteakyet his fanbase doesnt know of such a thing.
0 likesyeah he did to a court of law 20 years ago, lmfao
0 likesBro, good english evolution! Still a lot of room to evolve, more specifially, the gradual "sliding" between accents. I had the same problem, when after a couple of minutes of speaking my accent suddenly became russian.
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@@scarm_runesame, i got a small British accent just by watching YouTube lol
0 likesthe best way to evolve it further is to just by talking to people
16 likesthats how i got a slight irish
I really enjoy your accent, it just added so much charm to the video hearing the ways you say words. I liked it
14 likesAt around 6:00 you talk about registry edits that change certain things about the way networking works, currently people are still falling for that with fortnite regedits being sold for over $100 in some places.
5 likesHe seemed really nice from his videos, people change but trying to act like this never happened is not the way
2 likesWe all knew he was prick when we saw he worked on product activation
5 likesActual Heros don't exist. Dave is another example
2 likes4:20 ram defragmentation is a thing, because lets say you have 4k free but its fragmented, youd fail to allocate am 4k buffer even though there is 4k of ram free.
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@@SianaGearz ok that doesnt make sense then, I assumed he was defragmenting the positions of virtual memory which would make sense, but you couldn’t just look at a chunk of ram and defragment it, you’d need to know the position and size of all the different buffers.
1 like@@antmoundsock1122 "Defragments your physical RAM" is the advertisement claim. Nonsensical as it is.
0 likes@@SianaGearz i’m unclear on something, is the software claiming to defragment the virtual memory of each program running, or all the memory at once?
0 likesNo, RAM fragmentation (more correctly heap fragmentation) is a thing, it's an inherent issue in many applications, but you can't achieve RAM defragmentation by an application on Windows, for the fragmentation that the same application hasn't itself caused. The claim of the software is untrue.
1 likewell, as long as you do have fragmentation because of gaps that are less than virtual page sizes, then yes. HOWEVER, if you do the defrag, any realloc would instantly create a new gap. Yeah I guess it's not big deal, but... there are pros and cons. Highly doubt it even made any sense, maybe on a system running for a lot of time with software that constantly allocates and deallocates a lot of memory (like more than usual apps back in the day).
0 likesI am sorry but i laughed at the increase download speeds by 600%
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That kind of worked, because it joined two or three concurrent dowloads from different parts of the file. So what this means is for example, that you have one download starting from the start of the file and another download starting from the middle of the file, and when they're both done, the file has been downloaded. But doing so simultaneously did increase download speed, it is just that it wasn't by that much. So, on a 56k modem, which had around 2-3kb/s, this would mean something like 3-4kb/s instead. Now, there was a lot more noise on the lines and other things which made download horrible already, and there is always an overhead, so the download speed was generally a lot lower like at around 3-4kb/s, which means the increase would have been even less noticeable. Notice, that an increase from 3kb/s to 4kb/s is actually an increase in speed of 33% (so the improved speed is 133%).
0 likesActually, "fragmented" objects in memory are slower to access due to cpu caches, look up stride patterns. Though I doubt his utility would help with this at all and it was before superscaler cpus
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@@XAMEREN yeah as I was saying his program couldn't fix that, if it did then it'd have to change every pointer in memory or remap the virtual memory
2 likesThis is typically managed by writing efficient code and choosing appropriate data structures rather than defragmenting RAM.
3 likesAnd there I thought it was bad that I found the code to his "flaming LED strip" microcontroller on a random image board dated years back, almost verbatim.
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Is this guy a complete joke
0 likesIf this guy had 10M dollar studio
9 likeshonestly, I always knew he was lying about pretty much everything, I just like listening to stories (that aren’t even true probably)
1 likethe false copyright strike in the corner
10 likesi reccently started watching dave and now you upload this video. i'm not saying dave should be cancelled for this but it is pretty funny. if anything he should be more open about it and not hide it.
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@@ngspace9829What sucks is there are probably technical things that Dave could explain to make the situation look better. Buts hes just deleting stuff
0 likesHe is censoring it, he should be cancelled for censoring it.
0 likesTo be honest, there's nothing too bad here. Crappy shareware, but as long as you can remove it - it's probably fine.
4 likesFound guilty and paid 300k dolars in fines
2 likesWhen you listen to his video, it's like he made Windows by himself ..
16 likesi did NOT expect seeing this in my feed today
1 likelol someone re-registered the certified safe downloads domain yesterday, 7-23-2024
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I looked at USPTO's trademark database and haven't found anything yet.
0 likesFor those who are curious to look for themselves.
https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-information
There are many Malware YT review channels, and while most do a good job, I haven't seen many go in-depth with breaking down apps using SRE tools like IDA, Binary Ninja, or Ghidra. John Hammond is a notable exception, although his focus is primarily on Java, Python, VBS, and WScripts. I've been a reverse engineer and developer for 25+ years, so I appreciate seeing the 'under the hood' analysis. This isn't criticism of other channels, but a preference for a deeper technical dive in malware analysis.
2 likespeople getting exposed left and right makes me think god is solely going after my enjoyment
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@@CoreStarter He actually settled the case and had much of the penalties suspended for compliance.
0 likesIs this really him getting exposed, this happened like 20 years ago, all the guy does these days is share his history and knowledge of old Microsoft stuff. He already lost a court case over this, again 20 years ago, i assume you've never made any bad decisions in your life? Its not like hes grifting for youtube money, his channels not very big and hes made a load of money already. Also he has talked about this before and didnt seem especially proud of his actions.
2 likes@@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr this year is the natural selection year
1 likeWOW!
0 likesI think that was the very software that made me ditch Windows around 2001 and shift to Linux. I have been using Linux for everything since then.
I still hear/see/read people say that you can't use Linux for everything, - well I do.
Interesting i guess. Most people could care less. I certainly don't. He pumps out informative content that's entertaining. Well done in compiling all this info, although I would have liked to see a deeper dive into reverse engineering what the software actually does. For instance you gloss over net turbo saying it only changes a few registry values. Mtu etc Ok, so for a non technical person, there is no value in that? Mark Russinovich and David Solomon do a really good explanation of what mem defrag scam is, and why it's such a bad idea. I dunno man, whilst i agree the business practices were definitely shady , this whole video just feels a little 'cancel culture'-ish. Will be interesting to see if Dave directly responds to this. Popcorn at the ready.
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I agree there could be value in tweaking the registry values for a non-technical person, especially in the 90s. But that's pretty scummy, he could have made a blog post explaining the parameters or something along the lines being a former MS employee. Instead, he charged people for that. I intended this to be sort of a malware showcase video, so nothing overly sophisticated. I don't want to cancel Dave or banish him off the Internet, this video is intended to show a piece of information that's often overlooked. It's hard to understand in my mind, because had Dave not been caught, he'd for sure be scamming people until it stopped generating revenue, but he was, so now he has to hide it. I also am eagerly waiting for his response, because that was the primary motivation behind uploading this video.
1 likeIt's been almost 20 years... And it's not like he hasn't been through the justice system for it. I guess it was atleast interesting to watch
2 likesOh btw I actually prefer this way of a documentary more than coffeezilla. Seems simpler and less of a narrative, You got straight to the point!
4 likesOh, Dave....
3 likesthe memory management was probably something useful in 9X era where XP did not need it. I have a m68K mac and it needed ram defrag which was build into system 7 of mac os back then.
1 like22:05 Well the thought that InternetShield would write something to the hosts file was a well educated guess, but seeing that it didn't, I think that leaves us two options:
12 likes1. Maayybee it failed to update the hosts file because it was already in use by Notepad - bit misleading from you on that part if that was the case, but that also points out the negligence of the author of the program that they did not make the error handling on the hosts write file error, not even a simple check if the file is already in use. Perhaps they didn't think anyone would have looked at the hosts file while using their software?
2. There's another place where you would do the kind of blacklisting of the websites - the Windows firewall. Instead of blocking the domains in the hosts file, it would instead add all 20 IP addresses that the domains of 'potentially harmful websites' would resolve to in a block Outgoing and Incoming traffic rules. And if the program genuinely does what it tells you it does, I am fairly confident it would just add the firewall block rule to 20 of those IP addresses.
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@@lowlymarine451 I thought I'd remembered something about that and figured that would be somewhere else to look. Not unreasonable for someone to miss some crusty old feature in windows XP. :p
1 likeIt seems to be putting the "bad" sites (whatever they are) in the "Restricted Sites" zone in the IE settings. This is visible on the settings screen at 22:18.
8 likesToo bad he didn't make Bonzi Buddy, he did show how to compile dos 4.0
1 likeew. unsubscribed from this scammer.
3 likesI'm taking this in a direction where I'm thinking of him as an opportunistic person and a bit of a scumbag, but if I see a video from him in recommended, I would still watch it if it interests me. Like, the guy scammed a lot of people out of their hard-earned money, but didn't cause lasting damage and stopped doing it a long time ago. Heck, I used to believe cleaning up the registry sped up my PC so when CCleaner had that feature, I used to run it on my PC. Him trying to silence that part of history makes sense, as he doesn't want to associate with this dark part of his past. Still, not defending his actions or the fact he's not even trying to come clean about this but blocks/removes any mentions of this.
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yeah i feel like this isnt a "never go online again" thing more of a "stop hiding it and come clean apoligize" type thing
0 likesjesus. the davesgarage unit? JESUS FUCK!
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@sounspark Hello Dave's alt. Try repenting first.
1 like@@excessivelysalty_81 Where does he "keep lying" about it?
0 likes@@soundspark Forgiveness only happens if you do something deserving of forgiveness. If you keep lying about it, it shows you haven't learned, therefore you don't get forgiveness.
0 likes@@automatedinsanity lmaooooooo. Your comment is 10/10.
2 likes@@soundspark grasping for straws i see
4 likes@@soundspark the russian didn't make up the lawsuit
8 likes@@soundsparkHe keeps lying about it. That doesn’t warrant forgiveness.
9 likes@@MarkHall-cf6ji You were told to be outraged 18 years later by a Russian, right?
0 likes@@soundspark this was a lot more serious than a ticket, he actually took advantage of people, what makes it worse is he didn't need to, he was a microsoft engineer, dude wasn't starving
4 likes@@MarkHall-cf6ji He settled over 18 years ago. Does your car insurance raise your rates because you had a ticket decades ago? Or do they have a degree of forgiveness?
0 likeshe seemed like a great guy too
0 likes@@Barnacules What's with all your activity here? He settled the case over 18 years ago; what ever happened to forgiveness?
4 likes@@Barnacules He celebrated elon musk?? Would've dropped him if I heard that
14 likesI can’t say I’m that surprised after getting celebrated Elon Musk making money by breaking the law and paying out less than he made from the crime overall. That made me think twice about him.
21 likesIf we start digging into every mainstream streamer or influencer's past (and present!) out there... who's clean anyways? If everything else he says is true, if he worked at Microsoft for real and did everything he claims to do, I don't care if he was a scammer. I mean, that's the least I would expect from a Microsoft employee lmao. Have you seen what their company is doing now? I would be more concerned if he was doing that right now.
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The problem is, he DIDN’T do everything he claimed to do.
0 likesbut not everybody in a compagny is necessary agree with what the compagny do so not necessaraly evil....
0 likessuch a shame, used to really love his videos
4 likesistg july 2024 so many big newses are coming out
Unlisted!!
1 likegiven how bad Windows uninstallers are, an honest, not scammy registry cleaner would be nice even if it gave no performance improvement.
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@@redstone0234 yeah that does make sense, you would have to be super careful as to not just... nuke half the registry.
0 likesIt seems to bé a legit one call
0 likesLittle-registery-cleaner FOSS but hasn't been update since 8 years
It would be konda hard to do it legit
0 likesBut i need to look at it
2:14 I just looked back at the video he made, he's left comment saying that apparently they replaced his method with the bitmap but the NTSUR release did use his method.
2 likesAt least I can trust you, right Enderman?
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@@Endermanch What's your opinion of your leader?
1 likeI make mistakes sometimes! 😁 Make sure to verify the information
2 likesMight steal your blocks but that’s about it
4 likesTrust yourself
3 likesidk you should "trust" anyone who talks on the internet.
5 likeshmmm . i am not sure ... double check information is important
2 likesDamn. Now we found the origin of the modern Indian scareware scam sites 😮
1 likeGood content to watch after a long day.
12 likesGlad that I could help with finding the remains of Plummer's site.
-gaber samir jr
Something about him was… strange.
0 likesI watched him, yet I felt like something is not right.
Now I know that my gut feeling was completely right.
i'm pretty sure dave himself didn't make registry optimizer and other rogues, but it's still bad to feature and promote buying them on his site.
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I'm on the fence, as a CTO how much code do you think he really wrote at this company by this point? I'm not saying he didn't have a hand in things, but rarely do management have a hand in everything that is going on.
1 likeWow, I havent watched Enderman in a long time. I didnt expect a random voice reveal 😂
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@@Butterscotch_96 yeah me too
0 likesI honestly like the voice videos better.
1 likeHe's been making videos with his voice, just maybe not as much lately.
1 likeNext video: "He responded...."
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hopefully not, hate clickbait like that
8 likesThis has been on my mind all day. I'm sure all these things are true. I guess I'm ultimately puzzled about what you hoped to achieve with this video. Like... Is it consequential? What is the expected outcome?
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@@rootbeer666Journalism should be done for the sake of journalism. If theres something to report on, it should be reported
1 likeIt seems disengenuos to ascribe any other ulterior motives without evidence
@@Endermanch I'm rather doubtful he will contradict the text of his book. It would be a net negative for him to respond.
0 likesI guess your video has value as a fact check for his story.
@@rootbeer666 you could say so, because his book misrepresents what actually happened. I don't know Dave's motive for his channel, but he's mainly playing off his clean reputation. Everyone knows him as the Windows man online. I've been ignored by Dave on Twitter for quite some time about this case, and when he responded it wasn't about it at all. He avoids talking about it, so I'm trying to squeeze out an appropriate response from him.
1 likeI have not read his book. Having been diagnosed with autism myself, I was always put off by his boasting about it, I skip those videos. It is classified as a disorder for a reason and I see no benefit in glorifying it. I don't think it's my kind of read. I'm only interested in technical subjects and quality fiction, and this sounds like neither.
0 likesWhat is Dave's motive for the channel and social media? Book sales? Are you trying to bring down his book?
I made this video to shine the light on his past, it sort of puts his work into context. His Autistic Millionaire book is twisting the reality, he keeps on ignoring any public talk about this. This was also made for him to respond to, ideally, with a story on how he came to be a scammer.
1 likeDamn, this sucks. His channel had some valuable retro computer information.
78 likesOh well, I guess never trust a neighbor who worked with Microsoft.
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@Barnacules Just tell people with autism are smarter than people without. Except chris chan.
1 like@@cocusar Raymond Chen is a real one
3 likesjust read Raymond Chen's blog for a more "trustworthy" source. I certainly believe that guy. He usually shares code on his posts.
6 likesThere are tons of retro computing channels that go in to more depth about things.
4 likes@@Crispe1Official Yeah. He has been replying to a lot of comments.
2 likes@@Barnacules Unexpected to see you here. Been subbed a long time :)
2 likesHis videos are all scripted so the content and information is solid in most of them so long as he’s not bragging about something he created. So there is no harm in still enjoying those videos. But, don’t believe him when he tells you how he made his fortune. That money came from people that were tricked into giving it to him.
40 likes~10:00 -- RE: registry cleaner scams. I've been seeing those since I was in high school (my first windows was 3.11, so that should give you a hint about how long these have been happening).
0 likesMy suspicion is that this scam goes back to the old Windows 3.11 registry which, if I recall correctly (I may not) was, if I recall a .ini file and COULD suffer issues with running out of space and having too many keys having to do with the limits of the .ini format. I think 95s unique brokenness also could have issues with too many registry folders, but NOTHING since XP has needed nor wanted a "registry cleaner". Issue is, like American politics, we have WAAAAYYYY too many people stuck in the early 90s operating off out of date technical information that didn't know WHY that original advise existed or was even needed.
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ok, CPU Rocket is a slightly different scam, but same concept: the program's "magic" does impossible things to your computer -- this time to your "scheduler" -- to "speed it up". Where as Magna Ram claimed to "double your ram via compression" (it didn't, think one of it's contemporaries tried, and failed, but it only opened a popup and tweaked some basic registry settings that you could do for free).
0 likes~24:00 -- the memory doubler is a total scam and goes back, I beleive, so the SoftRam/MagnaRam PUP from windows 3.11 (which I fell for back in the 90s...) So good to know Dave fell back on the classics...
0 likesTime to remove task manager and replace it with process hacker.
8 likesMy $0.02: we all enjoy his videos. He may not be 100% correct in all he says, but he is highly entertaining. Love his computers, retro stuff, etc. He was not some murderer or what not, just a guy who found a not super clean way to make money. However, he got sued, paid a huge fine, and all this is way past statute of limitations as it happened way too freaking long ago. Internet was a wild place then, there were much worse companies who did much worse things and a lot of shareware was just like this. Heck Starbucks steals 2/3 of our $6 drinks every day just by adding ice. No one is bothered.
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Paid a fine and remained in severe net gain. Sounds fire to me, let's scam some old ladies online
3 likessomething bad happens in 2004
3 likesPeople in 2024 with cancel culture : it's show time!
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Yeah, I don't disown people for their past.
2 likesNo reason to jump on a bandwagon because it's the exciting new drama.
Everyone has a past history someone dislikes, but you don't drill people you meet on their lives...
This might be the biggest year for lost media, exposals, discord, youtube, and more...
0 likesespecially the exposals part-
I’d keep watching if he made a proper video giving background info and apologized (assuming he’s allowed to talk about it legally), I’m sad, that’s one of my favorite interesting channels. Also, there are some aspects of this video that seem overblown
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What? He literally scammed people saying that his crap made computers faster.
0 likes@@Endermanch keep trying hard
0 likes@@YS_Production oh yea, that man ain't evil at all.. what are we talking about? Just a million satisfied customers that purchased his software and never returned... man, how can anyone portray this guy as evil? He just sold sharewares
0 likesSome? Almost all are overblown. He may have done some questionable things in the past and may have published some inaccuracies in the present, but this video is the definition of trying hard to portray someone as evil.
1 likeAh man, what a shame. I thought better of him until you opened my eyes on this
1 likeAnother youtuber I liked is exposed for being a turd. Just great.
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@@The_Goose2 GOOSE!
1 likeIt's almost sad....
8 likesI've watched a few of his videos, I didn't know about any of this, so thanks for spreading awareness
1 likeTbh if he was open about it and told this story alongside others on his channel, a lot less people would care purely because of how long ago this all happened
5 likesHe may very well be a changed man, and regret doing this, but hiding/defending it doesn't really make an impression of change or regret
The truth will always come out.
0 likesSomething about writing a book titled “Secrets of the Autistic Millionaire” never sat right with me. Lacks any humility whatsoever.
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@@mushroomcrepes wow nice taiko pfp
0 likesWell not watching him anymore thank you.
2 likesDownload this before it gets struck down, god damn
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Oh come on... The dude doesn't need money. Why would he even bother to go through that?
0 likes@@zoomdiamondifylike the court documents?
0 likes@@Tech101yt I did
0 likesIf he takes down the video, that would serve as an admission of guilt
1 likeHopefully reuploads will be around.
1 likeI did just that.
2 likes@@VEKTOR_87 it's not guaranteed
0 likesyup this will go down soon
1 like4:31 On some old systems, it served a slightly different purpose: they could only store files as continious parts of the memory, so there were situations where one couldn't save a file that was too large although enough space had been freed up, and it was used as a workaround
0 likesenderman just entered his hbomberguy era
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Only time until we get a two hour video on Windows that involves Tommy Tallarico (his mother is very proud)
1 like@@yoymate6316 nah, he's not insufferably smug enough for that.
2 likesThanks for sharing, never thought this guy was a scammer back in the day
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Well... the thing is, if you compare to how companies function today, he is like an angel. I cannot really think of a tech company which is not scamming. What about the companies which make ink jet printers, and then fill less than what they say in the cartridge, and block you from using the cartridge even it is full after a certain date so you have to buy new ones? Not even google is honest anymore, they have gotten completely off the rails, and they were actually a very trustworthy company back then when they said Do no evil. I think more that dave might have been ahead of his time of what is happening today, the methods companies use today are absolutely infuriating. But I do agree that he should respond to the allegations. I don't tend to make decisions on people without having both sides.
0 likesA 30 minute long video? This is going to be interesting to watch.
5 likesThis is somewhat similar to what norton av does, with all their extra addons that will make your pc "better". Why aren't they getting sued?
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or mccaffe
1 likeThat old man seems so arrogant, i can smell stinks just from few of his videos (especially from ZIP stuff he told).
2 likesfirst time I'm actually on time for a premiere
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0 likesawwww he seemed so nice. I thought the worst crime he did was making too many videos on the same subject
2 likesDave, I thought I could trust you
9 likesWell at least he's still far less evil and better than Adobe
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Adobe looks up from that bar to hell believing it is heaven.
2 likesThat bar is in hell
8 likesthat bar is underground 😭😭
12 likesLow ass bar
30 likeswow thats... quite disapointing
1 likedamn, I really thought he was genuine D:
3 likesI think the thing about "defragmenting" RAM probably referred to trying to make all of the free memory as contiguous as possible, so larger memory allocations wouldn't fail. It probably just allocated a bunch of memory until the OS paged everything else to disk and then freed everything it allocated when its requests to allocate more memory began to fail, leaving all of the free memory contiguous (except for anything that couldn't be paged out to disk). This could be helpful on a machine without much RAM, and calling it "defragmenting" the physical memory actually wouldn't even be misleading in that case. Saying it makes a machine feel like it was just rebooted sure is misleading though because the aforementioned defragmentation process wouldn't do anything about all of the leaked handles and other internal Windows accounting information that piles up over time.
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I think there is hardware block for it in cpu (MMU - Memory Management Unit). It basically map continuous spaces to certain block sized areas in physical memory.
0 likesDifferent things here.
0 likesMemory is fully virtualised in Windows (95+) so whether it's contiguous or not doesn't matter. It is managed pagewise, applications receive it pagewise, and paging happens pagewise.
There is such a thing as memory fragmentation but it happens within individual applications within their unique address space, within their pages, you can't just rescue it externally.
Sometimes, allocations fail by bumping into commit limit. It can be often avoided by allocating memory slowly enough and allowing the system enough time to grow the pagefile, which also bumps up the limit.
It's guaranteed misleading. The run of allocating, dirtying, waiting for paging to catch up, and then releasing to clear memory will not create a contiguous empty RAM space, but it also doesn't matter, since applications have no awareness of physical RAM.
The tangible benefit of the application would be, after paging out already loaded applications, a new application which loads a lot of data from disk will load quicker and feel smoother. It is even quicker than letting the system page out while the application loads, because the disk pressure of loading in data and writing out pagefile data don't end up fighting each other and creating extra disk head seeking. Remember we didn't have SATA NCQ back then. I think by giving the application plausible sounding but untrue promises he could command a higher price for an application.
He claims to be autistic, which he may be, but one thing is for sure.. the blatant self-promotion and claiming to be the sole author of numerous parts of windows.
3 likesI mean, I am sure he contributed some code, but he comes off the same way that stolen valor scammers sound.
I've stopped watching his videos because of the constant chest puffing
Great story I think I even saw one of these programs myself back then
2 likes"im gonna do some evil thing 😈👿😈" ahh scam
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Basically every scam ever?
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2 likes20 to 25 years ago computers would more regularly slow down and become un usable so people like Dave sold scamware. I as a child went around making family and friends computers faster by removing junk programs, stopping unnecessary programs from staring on login, running disk cleanup and defraggimg hard drives and this started my IT career.
0 likesSo I guess in one way I can say Thanks Dave lol.
The Internet allows anyone to bring back anything from someone's past that makes them look bad. It happens a lot in politics and it happens a lot in various media industries. Spheres of influence have great power to cause detriment to others.
19 likesPlease take care in deciding whom to talk about and how you talk about them.
Otherwise, great points.
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it is often said that, good deeds are often unpaid in attention, (and vice versa.)
0 likesthe archival of incriminating evidence is merely a reflection of that. it has nothing to do with ruining someone's current life, as theyve already ruined it themselves long ago, the archives just present the evidence and nothing more.
if one truly wanted to shed their bad past, then they must exert the effort necessary to do better than that, and in this case.. the person in question does not seem to be doing so.
It also means be careful when making these because if you say something incorrect it can come back and bite your ass
8 likesFrom coding Task Manager to becoming a Scam Manager 😮
0 likesHonestly, I got a dislike for him right away after every piece of video he did about open source software is to shill microsoft. During the XZ fiasco, all he did is make a video saying windows is better because it's controlled by microsoft and arguing about closed vs open source instead of discussing about the XZ itself and ways for the open source community to prevent it, maybe sharing his experience at MS and how to implement the good technique they used their into an open source development. But no, he just focus on the closed vs open source debate again, which honestly, as someone who both grow up with Linux and use Windows, both of them sucks and great in their own ways.
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@@dashcharger24 he has said closed sources better simply because of the fact he feels that The ability to analyze for exploits is easier on open source products. And that is true! However, he also went into an explanation on why open source is great.
0 likesHe gave both sides of the story in that comment, and that was mysteriously left out of this conversation...
I cannot remember him saying closed source was better? Or even MS was better? It's a few months ago, but I thought he did explain the problem with xz correctly. Opensource people don't receive money or the protection they deserve, especially when it's used by a lot of people.
0 likesYeah, but open source software would surely benefit from more trough reviews of updates or included libraries.
3 likesIt's like retiring from working on TF2 to host TF2 bots, a thing that goes against your previous job that also gives you less money
0 likesI mean it could be worse. He could have been the kind of file that Adobe Acrobat opens.
12 likesThat registry fixer upper I didn't think was so bad tbh, but intercepting the restart button... that's terrible.
0 likesI enjoy Dave's videos these days - but this was certainly an eye-opener into his past
This guy always struck me as a fraud. He made a video talking about how there is no NSA backdoor in windows which is blatantly false. He could have just decided to not speak on it but he went out of his way to run cover for microsoft. Not a genuine guy
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@@Sypakait was a different time. I still remember WIndows XP by default the firewall was disabled, because most people were worried about resources instead of security.
0 likesDo you have evidence that Microsoft had deliberately backdoored Windows for the NSA?
0 likesThe real backdoor was just SMB1. Back then during the 56k modem age, you basically exposed your filesystem (and a couple processes) to the internet, if you had no firewall.
7 likesGod the 2000's were horrible.
FYI TCP/IP has "protocol" in its name ;-)
0 likesThe only thing that can be used to accuse Dave Plummer is the marketing via fear of non-technical customers.
Analysing these tools to find out, what they really do, would be interesting.
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@@Endermanch And making uninstalls hard and misleading, as mentioned in the documents about the lawsuit.
0 likesAnd force installing adware with CPURocket. I know networking well, and TCP/IP is a protocol stack, despite having 2 protocols in its name.
0 likesDefragmentation of ram was a bit of a thing. In low memory machines, a crappy memory allocator in combination with a process that allocated lots of small ram chunks could result in your memory map being fragmented into lots of little bits that were useless. it was mostly history by the time of good memory management units built into hardware, so I'm not defending his product in the 2000s, but it was definitely a thing at one point in computing history. I have no idea if his product helped or not.
8 likesAlso, net speed boosting was absolutely a thing. Often a badly configured tcp stack would be lacking things like compression turned on, and a lot of ISPs supported compression. You could see some boosts for plain text downloads like nntp, smtp and simple html pages. The claims of his product were probably nonsense other than turning on that compression flag tho.
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@SianaGearz fragmentation of memory is always present when you have dynamic memory allocation. There is no way to avoid it. You can minimise the effect of it but will always be present.
0 likesMemory defragmentation can be useful in some cases from pure performance point, fragmwnted memory exhaust cache memory and degrade performance so in some case it is beneficial to do memory defragmentation.
@@mrlazda By the time fragmentation has happened, it is generally too late to do anything about it. Both jemalloc and tcmalloc and various engineering advice like pools and frames as well as avoiding out-of-order operations cover fragmentation up-front avoidance rather than defragmentation.
0 likesFundamental exception are virtual machine language runtimes which can just introspect all pointers going to something and don't give you raw pointer access; but the overhead of defragmentation would be so high that i'd struggle to name even one which actually does it.
Oh i know i can name one where it actually happens, Microsoft Basic on 8-bit computers. That one defragments. It's helped by not supporting references to begin with.
Was gonna say "nice pfp" but then I saw your About section
0 likesHello!
Only memory fragmentation is still a real problem. And that is why most of the long-running server aplication do not use default memory allocator. Most commonly used is jemalloc (choice of Facebook and was choice of Rust) or TCMalloc (used by Google).
0 likes@@teknos_ hello
0 likeshi forge modder guy
0 likesOne time, i had to help the teacher, because the audio in the laptop was not working. What i just did was that i uninstalled Avast and it worked again.
1 likewho leaves microsoft to do this????
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immoral people.
1 likeThanks, Enderman.
1 likeAhhhhh. That's why the new Task Manager is redesigned. To Plumb the mess of Dave Plummer. 💀
100 likesIt's actually sad that he scammed people. He looked trustworthy. I've changed my mind.
Edit: borgir.
Edit 2: Riccroll.
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Curious - can you post a link to your claimed Dave Plummer mess? Because you seem to suffer extreme confirmation bias.
0 likesJust as this video where Enderman thinks TCP/IP isn't a protocol - failing to understand the difference between a protocol and how that protocol is implemented [the network stack - named after the 7 levels of the OSI model]
And thinks there is no concept like RAM fragmentation - so RAM defragmentation must be a scam. A scam existing in multiple OS and memory heap implementations, and part of computer science courses.
And fails to realize that with modems and sometimes well over a second of ping times, you can get big improvements by tweaking your stack for latency or raw transfer rate. And just because the settings is in the registry, then a tool to edit them must be a scam.
If this was a good video, then it would focus on the relevant parts. Advertising popups etc. But there was too much snickering about actually working tools. All because Enderman applied 2024 years Windows knowledge to Win95/Win98 - a big no-no. While failing to report in a neutral way - another big no-no.
Did task manager have some kinda backdoor or something? Lmao
0 likes@@t0biascze644 Nvm.
0 likes@@t0biascze644The gui in a lot of other apps were changed too. Apps they haven’t usually changed in windows releases beforehand, so that’s nice
1 like@t0biascze644 Hence why all the tricks that Dave discusses still work even on Windows 11.
4 likesthe task manager is not rewritten
10 likesonly the GUI was changed
This was not at all secret, and Task Manager still has a lot of his code.
5 likes4:40 "fragmentation" is applicable to RAM as well, is the issue when applications constantly allocate and deallocate different chucks of memory (especially when in the past structures like lists were recommended to store data) and depending on sizes "holes" were formed in RAM than can't be allocated, obviously not much of an issue now with tens of GB of RAM but in the past with worse OS allocators it was kind of an issue. With that said the actual benefit of such "RAM defragmenters" was highly questionable as it would require kernel level access and application locking to reorganize chunks in memory (if comparing to disk defrag) while in practice they were very fast which was impossible given the problem they try to solve.
0 likesJesus Christ, he was an inspiration for me, me being autistic... **GODDAMMIT!**
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@@WaltuhBlackjr brother exasperated or shocked invocation of the name of Christ is a colloquialism now. It’s not classy but it’s not worth getting upset about it. Let it bother you and you’ll be upset all the time
0 likes@@SpiceFox it’s about being respectful to other people’s religions homeboy. Go back to r/atheism if you respond back to people like this.
0 likes@@SpiceFoxare you a follower of the antichrist i assume?
0 likesyou have the right to belive in religion but you also have the right to not belive in God
1 like@@SpiceFoxThat's false
1 like@@SpiceFox nah he is real
8 likespeople do bad things. doesn’t negate the rest of his work. bet a fair few software devs have some history of malicious activity. don’t imitate, but not worth holding grudges
4 likes@@WaltuhBlackjr god isn’t real
18 likes@@archae108 don’t take the lords name in vain.
5 likesAh man, I really looked up to him as an Autistic person in tech. Thank you for going to in depth, I appreciate the level of detail you go into in every video and thank you for sharing the original sources!
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his autism could be fake
0 likesDave's the kind of guy that can give some decent insight on how things are made behind the curtain.
15 likesHOWEVER! He's also the type of guy that you should take all his words with a grain of salt, because he exaggerates a ton in his videos just to feel some sort of sympathy for him. He didn't code Windows, he only coded a few apps in Windows. This adware company just kinda proves how good he is at misguiding people. Way better than Tommy "I worked with Shigeru" Tallarico at the very least.
This is why having multiple witnesses, and official proof is necessary to prove a point. Anyone can just say random stuff on the internet.
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@@thepuzzlemaster64 idk, it never crossed my mind that he made a huge part of the OS. Naturally it was a group endeavour. Also I don't remember him saying he coded the pinball game, but saying he was working on a port of it. Perhaps people need to listen more carefully.
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1 likeWell the way he keeps boasting about coding the format menu, the task manager, the zip functionality, the freaking pinball game when in reality there was way more people involved that he almost never mentions (especially the Pinball game, who's creator got shafted by MS).
It wouldn't surprise me if he started boasting about creating Windows as a whole one day.
Wait he didn't code windows!? I see. All the time I thought he did. Wait, I didn't, because no one ever said he did, so why are you implying the opposite? Of course he only worked on couple parts here and there, as did every one of the hundreds of MS coders.
0 likesThanks for the video mate, good job. I don't have a problem with the shareware model, but it has to be clear up-front before you download what the limitations are, and the cost of the full product. They were clearly using scare tactics and misleading information to trick people into buying their crap.
2 likesThat adware that installed along with CPURocket sounds like a browser toolbar add-on. I'm glad those days are behind us.
If he had just owned his poor choices and been transparent about the whole thing, I'd be fine considering him a reformed man. But he ducks and weaves, playing it down, trying to bury the past.
I wasn't his biggest fan to begin with. His constant reminders that he is an ex-Microsoft engineer, and mentioning what he worked on at Microsoft whenever he could shoehorn it in was annoying to me. Reminds me of techlead, and we now know that he is a scammer too.
Thanks for laying out the information for us to easily parse.
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but techlead is worse as he did it jn the modern day while Dave is not doing it the modern day so...
1 likeThat was the shareware era, Dave definitely wasn't the only guy making bullshit programs like that. Every second 'utility' program you ran into in those days was generally useless 'buy-me' junk. Not saying that he wasn't guilty for his actions, but he did get reprimanded for them and had to pay his dues.
21 likesI really hope this isn't enough for people to just write him off, it's realistically a minimal controversy in contrast to all the other crazy shit other Youtubers are getting nailed for which actually does warrant re-evaluating their merit altogether. This issue is almost 20 years old; is there some anticipation for Dave to profusely apologize and beg for forgiveness? I'd have done the same thing and not talked about it if I were in his shoes. I know I don't introduce myself by saying "Hi, I'm me, just so you know about 20 years ago I did something stupid that I want to tell you about."
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We should not make criminals into public figures and celebrities. Fake security software isn't the only problem with Plummer; his videos are full of inaccuracies and lies.
0 likesIt blew up on Twitter and he intentionally avoided responding to it. If he had been cool about it and owned up to it instead of hoping for the dust to settle, I wouldn't even bother making this video. Check out the quote tree — my Twitter investigation in the description.
8 likesThen why does he refuse to talk about it? It's not like he has some legal gag which forbids him from mentioning it. Constantly dodging it only aggravates the issue further. The evidence is there.
10 likesMemory is allocated in blocks. If you have a lot of little blocks that can be coalesced then you remove the overhead of memory management and pointer look ups. I suspect when membory was more limited back then Memturbo would have been beneficial.
0 likesbruh this comment section just shows how many people really know how computer works, enderman you shouldn't throw out this video just because of daves little sheeps defending the fact that before he became an old fart he was targeting vulnerable people that didnt know shit about computers to extract as much money as possible in predatory ways. Did microsoft not pay him enough or was it just all greed? You should definetly do some deeper digging and make another deeper and more fact checked video about that because dave seems like he really doesnt want his viewers to know about it by deleting every comment he sees about it and brushing it off on social media, if it were not for you i and many more would not know his dodgy past
5 likesThank you for this video!
0 likesSomething was always weird about that dude
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@@thepuzzlemaster64 Could it actually be autism? I watched an interview of him on another channel, and he wasn't as expressive as he is in most of his videos. Maybe that's why he feels "a little too calm".
2 likes@@mallninja9805Thank you so much I thought I was the only one
1 likeWell the first one was him constantly bringing up his autism for me, just felt like grifting. the other one was the fact that he seemed to never be critical of Microsoft for anything, if I had to guess he still holds shares lol
22 likesI know right. I felt it from the start with his expressions, and how he always felt a little "too calm".
7 likesHis tall tales didn't help matters either.
yup. I think of him as "That guy with the horrid youtube ponder-face thumbnails."
10 likesI got fooled ok.
1 likeBut in my defense, I am just a junior software engineering student who doesn't know much about this world 😓
I trusted this guy..
This needs more traction 🤔
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FR, he needs the justice he deserves.
0 likesMemory fragmentation is largely solved by a 64 bit address space at this point. But it really could be a problem on 32 bit systems.
0 likesIt wasn't about the speed of accessing memory. It was about the speed of executing malloc.
It also could cause problems like programs eventually crashing due to spurious "out of memory" errors, if they were designed in such a way that they called malloc and free a lot and fragmented their address space. Programs that allocated a large block and then divvied it up themselves wouldn't run into that problem at the OS level, but the likeliness of that sort of manual memory management really depended on who was writing the program, and how much they understood their computer and OS.
Address virtualization may have helped with this to some extent - I'm not 100% sure of the details of how much that could help (if "sequential" pages in program address space could be allocated at random spots in physical memory). But either way, that didn't entirely solve the problem for long running programs that did a lot of random-ish small allocations/deallocations. I believe the program's virtual address space was still something that had to be chopped up and have sufficient sequential blocks in order for malloc to succeed. 32 bit addressing is still only 4gb, and that's not a lot of room to work in.
Whether such "RAM defragmentor" programs actually did anything about this problem is a different question, though. I agree that it seems pretty unlikely.
Excuse me what? That guy?
4 likesMemory fragmentation is actually a thing. Not sure about the utility, but if you code a custom allocator or having a memory management implementation, things you consider in the design is to avoid memory fragmentation. This is generally important for devices that have memory restrictions.
0 likesI don't think he's really a bad person as people do mistakes and that was 20 years ago but the fact he doesn't want to admit it, is kinda pathetic.
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He earned a lot of money, don't know if actually needed them for the lawsuits? I do understand he doesn't want to talk about his past, we all make mistakes, but I don't know if he sees it as a mistake.
0 likesI’d be willing to forgive him if he comes out and talks about it, considering how long ago it was.
28 likesI've used many of these "registry cleaners" before. At best they don't do anything and at worst they break software that rely on dummy keys.
0 likesstill a better route than most millionaires nowadays...
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One day, you're throwing back pink lemonade on diddys yacht in San tropez...
1 like@@Barnacules woah long time no see
2 likes@@Barnacules He's been pushing his autism books. I can't help but wonder whether he's actually autistic. Maybe it's rude to doubt though.
0 likesThis was back in 2006, who knows what other scams he’s done since then he hasn’t been caught doing.
16 likesI like how the distorted startup sound in VM is adding some vibe to this scam software presentation :D
0 likesto be fair those scams are a child play by today standards
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Right? I've watched the entire video and I don't see anything negative other than being forced to click a second button after you tried to restart. Where's the crime?
0 likesThis was back in the XP days... Where you would click a registry cleaner and it would completely eff your system. Fill it with pop-ups and crap..
Honestly this just seems like I'm done doing the hard grind and I want to write some code that people might buy...
this is insane how did i not know this
0 likeswe getting a false copyright strike with this one 🔥🔥🔥
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YouTube has become really bad. :/
0 likesOh man, just recently I was thinking surely something was off with thus guy, nothing is ever just nice on YouTube
1 likeNOO WHAT???
3 likesDave needs to see this.
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@@Endermanch wow, salty move from Dave ngl
0 likesHe saw this. He's cowardly wiping out the comments about this under his videos and still doesn't want to respond. I guess the only way to get his attention is to have the big YouTubers cover this.
4 likesYour video was very good, even though you usually make other kinds of videos. Keep it up!
3 likesMan, I really liked his content. It's really sad to see what kind of person he actually is.
0 likes"tcp isn't a protocol" what do you think the p stands for
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I never said that. TCP is a protocol. TCP/IP is not, it's a protocol stack.
8 likestcp is a protocol and ip is a protocol. tcp/ip is a protocol stack.
11 likesWhy claim RAM fragmentation isn't an issue? That's like saying hundreds of thousands of senior developers are incompetent.
1 likeFirst off - memory fragmentation is relevant for dynamic memory allocation, where you need a contiguous block of RAM of x bytes. There are much more than x bytes free - but in many holes that each is smaller than x bytes. So no free block can be used - without the heap first being defragmented.
This is why all devices with limited RAM should be very, very careful about use if dynamic memory. In many environments, this means the only allowed place to allocate is at startup. And then keep the allocations until the device is restarted.
Next thing - RAM may mean "Random Access Memory". But it's many, many, many years since RAM was "constant access time memory". Which is why compilers and delevopers needs to optimize locations of data, and also the size of data structures. The RAM itself has burst transfer behaviour where it takes extra time for access to the first byte. Then the memory can have a decent transfer rate for up to a page of data. Then we have the issues with layer0, layer1, layer2 and maybe layer3 cache. Having the data tightly grouped can make it fit in the same cache line - and the read from RAM fills a full cache line at a time.
Next thing is that dynamically allocated memory needs a data structure to map the allocated blocks. That structure complexity adds non-constant search times.
Then we have paged and non-paged memory. Today, all programs gets memory blocks in forms of pages. Actual page size depending on processor. And the processor may support a hierarchy of two and three different size pages, so it might use 4 kB, 2 MB and 1 GB pages. Pages means a program can see a contiguous block of virtual memory, that is represented by a multiple non-contiguous blocks of physical memory pages. But data structures are used for these mappings. So you habe page tables. And you may have TLB - Translation Lookaside Buffer - that caches a linited number of paging mappings.
But move back to older Windows versions, and not everything was distinct virtual memory. You got memory handles. A memory handle represented a pointer to a pointer to RAM. Why two levels of indirection? Because the OS could then defragment the physical memory, and modify the second level pointer. Interesting - RAM not needing defragmentation and the OS still had a specific concept with dual-indirection access just to be able to defragment. Silly OS developers...
Bottom line: memory defragmentation is needed in some situations. More so 20 years ago than now.
Same with download managers that optimized TCP/IP parameters. You want different options if you want many MB/s or if you want shortest lag. So Asus and other motherboard vendors have multiple times shipped applications explicitly optimizing for gaming performance.
In short - forcing popup ads etc is bad. Very, very bad. But don't critique technical optimizations without having the technical know-how to actually debate their functionality. What is done, and if it matters or not. Especially since our needs now are different from 20 years ago, making it invalid to apply todays expectations on the logic.
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I will debate the functionality because his software doesn't even defragment the RAM. It's not a job of a utility, it's a job of the kernel. All his software does I think is push memory to swap and free it back again, and regarding NetTurbo, modifying 5 registry keys shouldn't be paid for.
0 likesdamn, thats insane
4 likesI had a feeling that something was off with that guy anyways
1 likeAlrighty, here's my pov on this: honestly, he was younger, this was the past, and the past can't be changed. I know that what he did was a bit scammy, but I feel like we should forgive him for it. Unless he is secretly doing it under another name, I still see him as a good person. I feel like targeting him for the past is just not what to do. Ok the wording in the book seems weird, but he just wants to forget about it, and I get it, we all screw up and want move on. Please, if you're reading this, don't harass him. That's not cool of you to harass people because of their past. But that is my pov
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@@DanielClear2 oh god
0 likesфан бой дэйва детектед
0 likes"мовет мы пвостим его за то вто он скамил людей на нифиговую такую кругленькую сумму. он ве был таким молодым и глупеньким"
чел, он даже на своих видео пытается насрать в уши людям, то что он там всю систему целиком сделал. смотрите какой я
ретардедретайред инженер супер пупер крутой.@@Endermanch If this is your "no hard feelings", I don't wanna know what your "hard feelings" are.
0 likes@@Endermanch I get it. I just feel you were at bit too much by the end of the video. I just really hope nobody goes after him, or you.
3 likesNo hard feelings! Not trying to be a dick about it, but the audience should know. I think he was about 40 years young back when that incident occurred.
16 likesBummer. I like his channel.
2 likesI appreciate what this video's going for, but I think it would've come out a lot better if it was more structured and researched, instead of just bringing up background at random points in the video and not doing much to back it up other than "you can go and visit them yourself I won't be going through it."
32 likesWhat comes to mind is having two distinct parts. Have the first half lay out the groundwork and summarize your findings so that people don't have to do a bunch of research to verify your claims, even though they just watched a half-hour video. An example that comes to mind is that you barely mention much with regard to the court documents, you just scroll through them a bit and seemingly think that's enough. At least read them fully and try to support your claims with them, this is persuasive writing 101!
Then, dedicating the second half to showing off the software distributed by him to demonstrate what it did, why it was bad, and hammer your point home. You already did that (though that hosts file seemingly caught you off-guard - test your stuff and make sure your claims hold water before you try and demo it...) but some more research and testing before you made the video would've helped a lot.
You mentioned in the beginning that you heard of this whole thing yesterday, and made the video in that time-frame - I think it really shows. If you wanna make a persuasive video like this again, actually try and focus hard on the persuasive part, instead of just flippantly showing evidence you don't go into detail on and winging demonstrations assuming it'll prove your claim instead of taking away from it.
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Thank you guys for the constructive feedback! If I ever make a documentary again, I'll make sure to structure it better. My initial priority was to review the scam in action, much more than talk about Dave himself, but then I read his book and the misleading coverage in there changed my mind midway through. Hence the erratic structure of this video. I initially discovered the information the night before, so that video was ~2 days in production total, no hurry.
4 likes@@-..._-. Bet
0 likesi appreciate what this comments going for but split it up into paragraphs PLEASE
1 likethis would have worked way better as a video essay 13 min or so. He's a well known tech youtuber, so a non 38 min video is sure to get attention.
1 likeI could see where he was coming from and it probably makes it a bit more digestible that it was just kinda overview, then switching back and forth. But yeah some people probably do better with the more linear approach, but he provides sources for people who want the nitty gritty, so it probably balances out.
2 likes@@plaonder real
0 likes@@walllable spotted in the wild
0 likesI trust his technical knowledge but wow I didn't know this. Why is everyone cool secretly a little evil?
0 likesi always hated that guy. gave me another reason.
12 likesDefragmenting RAM makes sense if you have millions of tiny blocks spread evenly, preventing large blocks from getting inserted in between the gaps. It is not going to make RAM any faster though
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SLAB and SLOB allocators makes sure stuff is continues.
0 likes“Defragmenting RAM” lmaoo. I mean seems like a cool idea in concept but like other commenter said, not practical in the slightest
0 likesexcept the RAM gets flushed every time you boot, or restart your device.
0 likesIt just clears all data that was stored in the RAM, so im not sure what's there to defrag.
And even if you defrag RAM, it's not going to do much, unlike HDD's. For HDD's, defraging is necessary to do every once in a while, because it optimizes read/write speeds, and even the system can do it automatically for you.
And unlike RAM, HDD doesn't get flushed every time you restart/boot the device.
7:00 His license plate is 116, 911 (156th prime) rotated 180 degrees. 11x6=66.
18 likes"Dave W Plummer" = 153 ordinal. The 116th composite number. So he's, probably, into gematria and numerology.
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@Endermanch I first noticed it in some of his video titles and lengths. His Microsoft employee number (32005), drop the 0s, is 325 which is the 25th triangular number. 25 is the 5th square, 5 when interpreted generously refers to spirit over matter (ie the top of the star, bottom being the four elements), but in general simply means sensory reality. The 5 primary senses. More directly however, his name is "David". The 111111 pointed star is often called the [stop deleting my comments youtube], though really it's simply a hexagram, or two triangles put together (numbers around him are often triangular numbers). So if you write out "thirty two zero zero five" it gives 3737 in Agrippa's key, 37 is the 12th prime and 3rd star number. So two 3s, 33. His full name as written on the card he shows "David Plummer" = 138, 1 off (rule of colel) from 137, the 33rd prime.
0 likesEither way, he's highly intra-aligned numerically. The main point being while I do think he's aware of it, there's also an organic layer where this stuff just happens (and is aligned well beyond statistical chance). It's also the case that if you hold a number in mind then just start writing, check your own output, you'll find it correlates closely with that number. The reason for this is probably, at least in part, that the same brain regions (namely the cerebellum) controls fine motor output of the fingers and speech, memory, mathematical calculations, language, and grammar + syntax + a bit of symbolic processing. The same area does all of this. Everyone is taught the same alphabetical order and songs in childhood, and the unconscious mind responds to rhythm and is constantly counting everything, keeping track of time, and so on. So often times your unconscious mind is producing output organized around whatever else is in mind and you aren't even aware of it.
In his case though I do see a bit of number magic going on.
@@Endermanch It deleted my in depth reply, as usual.
0 likes@@Endermanch I first noticed it in some of his video titles and lengths. His Microsoft employee number (32005), drop the 0s, is 325 which is the 25th triangular number. 25 is the 5th square, 5 when interpreted generously refers to spirit over matter (ie the top of the star, bottom being the four elements), but in general simply means sensory reality. The 5 primary senses. More directly however, his name is "David". The six pointed star is often called the "Star of David", though really it's simply a hexagram, or two triangles put together (numbers around him are often triangular numbers). So if you write out "thirty two double o five" it gives 3737 in Agrippa's key, 37 is the 12th prime and 3rd star number. So two 3s, 33. His full name as written on the card he shows "David Plummer" = 138, 1 off (rule of colel) from 137, the 33rd prime.
0 likesEither way, he's highly intra-aligned numerically. The main point being while I do think he's aware of it, there's also an organic layer where this stuff just happens (and is aligned well beyond statistical chance). It's also the case that if you hold a number in mind then just start writing, check your own output, you'll find it correlates closely with that number. The reason for this is probably, at least in part, that the same brain regions (namely the cerebellum) controls fine motor output of the fingers and speech, memory, mathematical calculations, language, and grammar + syntax + a bit of symbolic processing. The same area does all of this. Everyone is taught the same alphabetical order and songs in childhood, and the unconscious mind responds to rhythm and is constantly counting everything, keeping track of time, and so on. So often times your unconscious mind is producing output organized around whatever else is in mind and you aren't even aware of it.
In his case though I do see a bit of number magic going on. Interesting stuff to see either way.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino Yeah I know. I was making a funny joke.
0 likesDamn, that's an unexpected perspective! Could be a coincidence, though... Only he can confirm that
2 likes@@BrunodeSouzaLino Both composites and primes are relevant. 156 for example refers to the eclipse cycle. A solar eclipse will occur somewhere on Earth every 1, 5, or 6 synodic months. The Hebrew word for eclipse = 156. Another good example is 37 and 73. 37 is the 12th prime and 3rd star number. 73 is the 21st prime and 4th star number. So while incrementing by 1 star, you move through two numbers that are mirrored both in themselves and their corresponding primes.
0 likes@@Mario583a People that are into gematria and numerology believe specific numbers have special properties or powers and try to tie almost everything they do to these numbers or numeric properties of numbers, like a number being prime, for example.
0 likesChat, what does it mean??
7 likesWow, this is such a shame. All I can say is, after the AI recall fiasco, Ive permenantly moved to Linux on my personal computer
0 likesback up the video before its too late guys
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I did
1 likeSir yes sir
1 like4:23 In his defense, DRAM does have a latency penalty when it comes to random access, which is why cache exists. So, I guess, maybe at the best if it does something it could help out with latency.
0 likesBut another technique that is verified as legit is spreading the RAM usage between various RAM banks in a precise way.
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It doesn't do anything like that.
1 likeIt simply forces existing applications into swap by allocating and dirtying, by all reason.
It can have a pleasant effect that next application you load, the loads aren't going to cause disk contention against writes. The flip side is that when swap back needs to happen, it will be slower and more vigorous, since the amount of swapped out data is generally beyond LRU tracking. So the application could be useful if you know the trade-offs, it shouldn't be sold on misleading claims.
DRAM has penalties when you switch the read pattern between pages and between lines, but all pages are equal to each other. System gives applications memory in pages. Applications suffer "heap fragmentation", which is really bad, but it's internal to their architecture and not something you can influence externally. The claim of the software is false.
RAM banks on PC simply arrange themselves into a wider bus if built optimally, it's even beneath the level of the operating system. Since CPU cache is populated and evicted linewise (32 bytes in that era, 64 a little later), all reads and writes will actually complete faster.
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7 likesGlad I'm seeing other people down here who also got bad vibes from Dave. I've given his videos several shots over the years and something would always eventually "ping my spidey senses," as another user put it. The dude throws up red flags for all sorts of ugly personality traits.
0 likesDevil's advocate (memturbo): Defragmenting RAM is actually not complete nonsense when you consider the MMU and TLB (translation lookaside buffer).
9 likesContinuous physical addresses allow the OS to shrink the size of the TLB by increasing page size, thus reducing the amount of times the hardware needs to trigger a page fault to ask the operating system what physical address corresponds to which virtual address (The TLB is a cache for that exact question). It's essentially what linux's transparent huge pages does.
That said, I am inclined to doubt memturbo actually did this. I'm also curious if this would've had a measurable effect in hardware that old. I'd expect this to only really surface with multiple GB of RAM given the default 4KB page size of most architectures.
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@@SianaGearz 1. TLB size: Kindly read the entire comment you're replying to.
0 likes2. Defragmentation avoidance: Tomato tomato. Plus memory is not only allocated. It's also freed.
Please the TLB size on a computer with 128MB RAM, seriously? Page size is really hardcoded deep as well.
0 likesBesides what you suggest is not defragmentation but rather fragmentation avoidance. Defragmentation still doesn't make sense.
@@gtsiam i have read this article, but i think there is difference between what does softram and this ram defragmentation tool. Softram compressed only some part of the memory so it didnt touch kernel and driver memory. But doesnt defragmentating ram basically means that you need to rearrange whole memory, including kernel and driver memory?
0 likes@@Barnacules Oh yes, 100%. I'm not arguing memturbo was legit. Just an interesting technical point about MMUs.
0 likesIn fact I doubt the technique I mentioned in my comment would have a measurable impact on older hardware. This only really comes into play when dealing with lots and lots of 4KB pages with multiple GB of RAM.
@@Ne-vc5pm I was going to agree, but after a bit of digging, I'm not so sure.
0 likesGiven that things like SoftRAM 95 are possible, I would not be surprised if this is also possible. Check out Raymond Chen's post on the old new thing if you're interested. i'd link it, but then I'd get shadow banned.
Still doesn’t explain all the upgrade tricks and nagging. That is still scammy. Along with the poor lamen explanation. But the other software was far more scammy as time went on.
2 likes@@gtsiam Would definitely have to sign according Dave Plummer's own video on CrowdStrike.
1 like@@gtsiam yeah not sure if even a custom driver can pull this off without bsoding the system
0 likesNote: Running in kernel space doesn't mean just admin rights. It means a custom driver, which microsoft would probably have to sign.
1 like@@Ne-vc5pm If you're running in kernel space (which you'd have to be to even start thinking of this kind of stuff) you can do whatever you want, period. In theory at least.
0 likesIn practice, you would need a deep understanding of the NT kernel's memory management code. System instability would also be a given.
Not to mention the skill required to pull this off. For someone who mainly seems to have worked on UI stuff? No. Just no.
But will OS allow such recklessness? I am pretty sure OS doesnt allow programs to mess with all memory in the system.
0 likesI became distrustful of him by seeing his unhinged takes on twitter such as "linux includes secret blob from Linus", defending elon musket, defending unlawful actions of cops etc etc. Now this video puts the final nail in the coffin.
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@@papajohnscookie no
0 likesBecause he has different political views to you? Lmao
0 likesYou shouldn't have included pictures of his family like that. At least censored his son's face. I agree that he needs to speak out about this, but you aren't making yourself look good by doing that. I know those pictures are probably publicly accessible if you know where to look, but it just doesn't look good on you to use them.
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You know, fair. I don't really make strong allegations against him, and I don't mention his familial background. That's just what happened in the past and he's no longer scamming people (hopefully). He posted that on Twitter. It didn't feel right to alter the image, it would feel SCP-like or as if he's a serious criminal. He's not a dangerous criminal! That's my thought process here.
3 likesIronic, this video appeared as a recommendation right after one of Dave's videos. I'm not subscribed to him, something seemed off by his rhetoric, I couldn't really point out. Thank you for your research!
0 likesevery. fucking. time.
3 likesOh boy, I feel like it will escalate
1 likeKinda loved the guy's energy but yeah...
😂😂😂Louis Rossman needs to talk about this lmao
6 likesHe seemed pretty respectable at first, it's a shame to find out about that
0 likesThanks for the video. I wasn't aware he owned or operated these companies, so I learned something new. Totally agree these were sus companies with borderline sus software. That said, on the technical side (I'm 47 and been a sysadmin for almost 30 years), I did want to point out a couple things that I think were overlooked:
4 likes1. The time period when all of this was going on. People often overlook what the state of Windows was at that time. Do not think the kernel, registry, or userland programs native to Windows were "flawless". I'll cover more below.
2. Memory fragmentation: you are right that it's not something a consumer needs to worry about in most cases, especially given 2000 and XP at the time, and that the kernel tries to do its best to alleviate non-linear allocations. I also agree that the purpose of the program gives a placebo effect. But please understand memory fragmentation is a real problem that does happen and is particularly impacting if you have a large number of long-running processes with high memory utilisation. The kernel's VM (virtual memory, not virtual machine!) has memory split into pages (chunks), and quite often you need something loaded into a linear congruent piece of memory. When you consider the allocations vary in size and in quantity, eventually over time you do end up with data spread across non-congruent pages -- and there is a performance hit for that (and can be quite bad if available/free memory is limited). Not trying to defend Dave here, just educating you about the technology.
3. Registry cleaners: these have been debated since they were invented. Yes they actually can serve a useful purpose (to remove entries that cross-reference program paths no longer in place), but as you said many of them are questionable. However: the analyser you used shows numerous registry entries that, believe it or not, come broken right out of the box on a fresh OS install and ARE NOT the cleaner's fault. 2K/XP is somewhat notorious for this. Yes, Microsoft left broken/silly stuff in place on a fresh 2000/XP install. You can verify this using other cleaners like CCleaner (for XP you'll need an older version). I agree the inserts-itself-into-startup-and-shutdown and "OH NO!!!" type of warning dialogs are scummy, but some of those scan results you saw are not the fault of the cleaner. I would therefore not call this "a rogue" (whatever that means; I've never heard anyone use this term to describe software like this, we just call it crapware). The registry today (Win10/11) is so bloated and ridiculous that it's a lost cause to try and fix all the mistakes anyway.
Thanks! Long due to cancel this crook!
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@@nangld why long due?
0 likesSomeone get Mutahar on the phone. This is pretty big.
9 likesThe good ol' don't trust people online
0 likesAnother reason for why it makes no sense in defraging RAM, as dave wants you to think otherwise:
5 likesBECAUSE THE RAM FLUSHES ITSELF EVERY TIME YOU BOOT UP THE MACHINE!
RAM is a TEMPORARY storage unit, that flushes itself every time you restart or the next time you boot up the machine.
It'd make sense if it was a HDD, since HDD's require defragmentation every once in a while, and even then, the computer can automatically do it for you, and unlike RAMs, HDD's do NOT flush themselves after every restart, because they are a PERMANENT storage unit. This is why the system saves stuff on the HDD, not the RAM.
However, RAM is needed to speed up your PC, obviously.
He should've knew better, being a "former MS employee", but i guess he was only there, just so he could have that title, and then move on with his scams, which we can now see.
And instead of taking that L like a man, he tries to sweep it under the rug, and pretend it's all fine.
Is it that hard to say "yes i scammed people in the past, and im guilty of that, but i will try to be a better person onwards"?
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@@charlie_nolan Yes i have observed memory fragmentation a lot, but it can only happen at application level, so some other application or the system can't really do anything about it. You can inject a better implementation of malloc into an application, that helps, that's why google's tcmalloc exists and it has the capability foreseen to force inject it into any application, when the dll is loaded it will set up its own detours. Once fragmentation has happened, nothing can be done about it other than killing the application. The malloc replacement must be hooked in before an application is running.
0 likesNowadays we don't care, but at the tail end of 32-bit era, it was a massive problem.
It's actually a key problem in most garbage collected environments where the deallocation happens in random order and not in reverse order from allocation. Javascript engines are prone to generate insane fragmentation, both internal to the engine, and secondary in the browser DOM manipulation.
I have maintained an application which was fundamentally very prone to fragmentation for similar reasons, since it was necessary to load and unload thousands of differently sized assets per minute in random order, which it would obtain via internet and which were disk cached as well.
I have also observed fragmentation in the buffer management of graphics drivers.
Of course the claim of the RAM cleaner is completely false, it does nothing for fragmentation. By adorning the program with false claims which seem just barely plausible enough, they could command a much higher price for the application than it was worth.
Except RAM fragmenting is actually a thing with low amounts of memory and poor allocation. However it probably didn’t do crap for most PCs.
3 likesAnother way of "Internet never forgets"
1 likeThe little cartoon doing dave's star trek salute fucking kills me lol. I still like dave, obviously this isn't a great look... but think about it. He talks about being a software author but only wants to take credit for hypercache for the Amiga and windows visual zip. Obviously his other work was less mention worthy, or as it seems, somewhat dubious.
19 likesDang that's wild, I've seen a few of his vids and he seemed on the level for the first few, then I started sensing something sus but I mostly dismissed it.
0 likesi hope your other reviews show less ignorance of tech than this one does.
6 likesany program which uses a heap gets fragmented, and it is perfectly ok to provide a utility to fix it. that is not a scam.
tcp/ip is indeed a protocol, and tuning the parameters is not a scam. how well it work is a matter of measurement.
registry cleaning is required due to how broken the design is for the windows registry. this is also not a scam.
the registry slows down with every entry added, and people adding entries do not provide clean installers. some of this cruft left behind will even prevent you doing a clean reinstall.
having the software being paid for by showing ads is not a scam either.
so far all you have displayed is your own ignorance of how windows works, your dislike for adware, and your dislike of nagware.
the lawsuit seems to be about there being a mismatch between the exact phrasing of some of the blurb, and if the software provides the exact services provided as needed by that phrasing.
if he was a shareware hosting site, it is not his job to audit every piece of software, that is the job of the software writer.
however it is common practice to lodge a merit free lawsuit with the intent to make money by charging a nuisance fee which is cheaper than going to court. then people settle to make them go away. describing this as a few valid issues with a ton of crap claims is not lying.
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@@grokitall That is true lol.
0 likes@@Windows2000Professional.s of course you can. you replace the system malloc library with a different shared library at runtime. that is how some of the memory leak detectors like valgrind work.
0 likesmaking people pay for an app that deletes some useless registry keys and telling them it actually does something is a scam
2 likes@@grokitall First of all... Registry Cleaner IS a scam because of it begging you to buy it. Also, on clean installation of Windows, there are not that many Registry keys that go unused. Second, have you not heard of scareware? That entices you to buy it? That is what Registry Cleaner is. And InternetShield. Also, nagware is very annoying. So... Your ignorance is bliss.
0 likesBot.
The glazing is unreal
1 likeThis feels a lot like a rogueamp1 video from back in the day, to be honest.
0 likesSomeone's going to get flamed
6 likesRam defragmentation might actually improve performance because of data and instruction cache; however i think such a performance improvement is more dependent on software and code optimization...
0 likesI mean this was 2006, he probably just wants to move on from it at this point.
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It’s a bit hard to move on from the fact someone who claims to be a trustworthy expert literally ran a scam operation.
21 likesNot the news I'd like to wake up to, but oh well...
1 likeI literally met him in person! OMG I had no idea. He literally made a video for me! I know his adress. His email and everything else about him. My cuisen is literally freinds with his son and they go to the same school and live in the same city and they play on the same football team. I also know that he has I believe 2 daughters. Also he said "I hate talking on the phone." I even sent him packages and he returned them. he even gave me an M5StickCPlus. I am in pure shock. This was the only detail I didn't know about him.
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@@somerandomcapybara You know what, normally I hack the scammers for a living, but Dave Plummer will be spared
1 likeAs other has said, don't ever dox him, he's not horrible enough to deserve it
3 likesAnd enderman himself said in one of the reply thread that this video is just for bringing the light on his past
If that is true, then please don't dox him.
2 likes@@Butterscotch_96the new owners of his website want you to go to the text equivalent of the UTF-8 CODE FOR 33 30 38 39 37 20 6C 69 6C 61 63 20 73 74 72 65 65 74 2C 20 44 61 6C 6C 61 73 20 74 78
1 likePlease don’t dox him. Thats not cool.
5 likesoh yeah when I pointed out when every picture of his was the same he literally changed one of his video thumbnail pictures so that way that wasn't true anymore
2 likesI Learned about the new company who has the domain, they want you to go to 30897 lilac street, Dallas tx
1 likeenderman is my new favorate youtuber
1 likeNo this was in 2023, not during the scam. I didn't give him any money
3 likesbut at least he has stop right ???
0 likesone thing that i'm kinda curious is what happends if you manualy "fix" the issues that registry cleaner claims is bad. will more pop up ? they could be not even real / implented by the program
0 likesThe video exaggerates badly imho. The scamware situation involving Dave Plummer and State of Washington was reported locally when it was happening and it is easy to reference the case online. It was a very small scam by any standards, it made boring news then and now. The video reports it like it is some sort of big secret, when it obviously was not. From what I can tell based on a couple 'searches'.... the man is worth between $1 and 5 million, which is comfortable but certainly not "rich" by today's standards.
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I don't know did you scam thousands of people, is that normal, does everyone just do that? The question here is not of scale, it's of behaviour that was knowingly very unethical.
2 likesThat’s how these YouTube exposès go.
0 likesIf he's not rich by today's standards, then he's either "read-baiting" those interested in his book Secrets of the Autistic Millionaire, published late 2021, or referring to the total amount he had earned up to that date, which also seems misleading for me.
7 likesI actually used to watch that guy thinking he was legit, I guess that proves you can't trust anyone online.
0 likesNowadays even defragmenting is useless since most machines have SSDs instead of plate drives (aside from edge cases).
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Yeah, for the consumer market. But for server applications defrag utilities are still useful because HDDs are still being used in that market. Due to the cheap price-per-storage that HDDs provide. Though it would be cool if HDDs can defrag themselves. Thus eliminating defraging software all together.
0 likesDefragmenting RAM is real thing but I don't think the software does anything worthwhile because the kernel allocator works in pages so defragmented RAM means that this paged memory is not aligned anymore. As the kernel returns page even if you don't need whole page and this misalignment leads to defragmentation of the RAM
0 likesFor the first 5 mins you were too hard on Poor Dave, but for the rest… JESUS DAVE WTF WERE YOU THINKING?!
3 likesI know everyone has crap they did in the past that they hate they did, but DAMN-
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WHY YOU GOTTA BE MY MILKSHAKE DUCK, DAVE?
0 likesMaybe questionable windows utilities aren’t that bad but he’s put himself into the same bucket as the Indian call centers harassing grandmas to buy gift cards
If it's not writing in the hosts file, it must be using firewall rules.
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@Endermanch that's even more pathetic.
3 likesNo, it adds wildcards to IE filter lists
2 likesSave yourself half an hour and skip to 31 minutes, this video is a massive waste of time.
3 likesIs anyone surprised that comments bringing up this topic vanished from the latest video?
1 like4:34 That's not true. Fragmentation of RAM is a real thing. Consider the following situation:
7 likesYou have two objects that are 32 bits each. You assign memory to them sequentially. Now they are occupying 64 bits. You delete the first object and instead allocate a 24 bit object in its place. now between the 24bit and the 32 bit object you have 8bits of "wasted" space. This is a really complex issue garbage collected languages have to deal with.
This wasted space also affects performance as it increases the amount of cache misses, because the ram is less "dense" and possibly misaligned.
Can his software defragment it? Maybe.
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@@Endermanch
0 likes"Isn't data in RAM aligned to a certain granulation coefficient anyway? " Not always. It usually is, but let's say you have a 1000 objects with an uneven size for example 17 bits . You'd waste a lot of space by not allocating them sequentially.
"I don't think it's a global problem between the process memory spaces." Nowadays I don't think it really is, because systems are way smarter about ram. Back in the day when the memory was significantly smaller I believe a skilled programmer could make a program to help *a little*.
@@Endermanchram itself doesnt have fragmentantion, but the heap areana can be fragmented, or at least i think tgta is what theyre saying.
1 likeAprechite your content btw!
Isn't data in RAM aligned to a certain granulation coefficient anyway? I don't think it's a global problem between the process memory spaces. Within the process, sure. But the utility would have to intrude and make a mess there. I don't see how it would offer a fix for that kind of fragmentation.
2 likesWow the marketing definately sounds like him. He wrote 5line utilities decorated them with fake progressbars and either sold then or bundled then with ads. What a parasite
0 likesJesus Christ, not Dave too.
6 likesYoutube search is suppressing this video
0 likesGreat video.
3 likesDefinitely nice documentary style, keep 'em coming!
this is WILD
0 likesDawg I don't get how you're going to be pedantic about the softwareonline website not saying "stack" wrt to TCP/IP when you make broad generalizations about memory subsystems that don't really hold leaving out anything like caching or situations like kernel memory where memory can in fact be allocated contiguously and therefore lead to fragmentation in the physical address space. Virtual or Intra-process memory however can easily be fragmented and cause issues which is why we have complex implementations of malloc and such.
3 likesNot a Dave defender overall btw he's definitely a hardcore grifter.
This video needs more views
1 likeSo, this all is quite relevant when you consider buying software from him.
2 likesBeyond that? How did the lawsuit end? Does it have ANY relevance whatsoever for the content of his youtube videos? Actually, no it does not. Additionally, when someone went through the legal process, payed the penalty for his mistakes, that person should be able to go on with their life. No, that does not mean continue doing what got that person in trouble, but it does mean being able to do legal things, without that past being held against them unless that past has a very very direct relation to what they are doing.
Failing that, ensures someone who gets in legal trouble will have no other choice than continuing with their illegal behavior.
While you have every right to dig up his past, and talk about that, I do not find your stated motivation for doing so to be convincing, nor do I see how this has any relevance whatsoever for his acrivity as a youtuber.
On top of that, do not blindly trust anyone, especially not people you do not actually know well in person. When it comes to someone telling stories on youtube, consider the entertainment value of those videos to you, but don't declare that person to be some kind of God. This will prevent a lot of disappointments.
Aw man! I really like watching his videos…
1 likeFor every like this comment get, I will download a new shrek picture until my hard drive gets full 🫡
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@@siliconfire no problem
0 likes122 pictures?
0 likes@@siliconfire dont be srry lol i dont think too 😂
0 likesI couldn’t even edge to this, I exploded immediately!!! Clean up on aisle MY PANTS 😂😂😂😂
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0 likesYou think your funny huh? 🤣😂😄 Just wait till you feel the writhing goey goodness of my trickling glistening rock hard skiboner. 🪨🍆💦 Then we'll see who's begging for mercy. 🙏🧎♂
0 likes@@velkoh ermmmm ratio
0 likesI have a script in virtual basic script that I made today that does just this except you can adjust the amount of pictures. Wanna try it?
0 likeswhat drive size, what picture sizes?
0 likesYour hard drive will never get full unless it's below a GB
0 likesyou won't, get a 1gb drive and do it on there instead, and ONLY download 100mb images
0 likes@@pokorocks oh didn't think about that
0 likesSorry
@@siliconfire well they can post the picture on their community tab of how many Shrek images they have downloaded
1 like@@pokorockshow do you expect the proof?
0 likesShow us proof once you download them all
4 likesMan I remember when your channel only had a little over 100 subscribers
0 likeshi bro
3 likesyou got him like they got saul goodman
1 likeCan I ask you ... what is the point of this? What are you trying to achieve? Did he scam the millions?
3 likes6:43 - "Tweaking the registries yourself". Man this is 2001, the internet was slow, people exchanged software on floppy disks and CDs, the internet was a joke at that time.
It is very easy for a kid who did not live in those days to judge the days from the 2024. Go do your own stuff before people start shitting on you.
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And on top of that, he doesn't owe us any apology. He doesn't owe us shit. He paid the damages, the case is closed.
1 likeLike what are we trying to achieve here 20 years later? He was charged with the crime, he paid the damages and the case was closed. People fuck up, people make mistakes, people do stupid things. People get arrested and get judged, pay for their crimes and then we can move on. Yet some kid in Russia is like "mwhahahahaha, muh drama" stirring up shit 20 years later. What good does this bring to anyone?
1 like“He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her.”
Very toxic youtuber by the looks of it...
Up until the 2011-ish the internet was full of small utilities and free-floating binaries created by small companies. And people were very much free thinkers and free spirited! I was a kid back then and I installed a LOT of crap on my family's computer.
1 likeWe had dozens of programs installed that we rarely ever used. We had all these "Registry cleaners", Program Files cleaners, defrag cleaners, temp file cleaners, app data cleaners, and cleaner cleaners... sometimes those programs would delete something crucial off Windows. We had 3 CD and DVD burners, we had shitty games installed, we had everything under the Sun installed.
The images from 2007 when the author of this video was 6 years old we had so many Internet Explorer toolbars it was not even funny. Malware was everywhere. As if this "Rogue software" that did not do anything wrong was very harmful and toxic. We would do everything to get those old slow computers to move faster, and it did not matter if it was a free trial, one use, or whatever. We downloaded it, we used it. Is it a shitty thing to sell something that has a questionable functionality? Sure. But we are no better nowadays than we were back then. The "rogue software" was the least offending software on the internet.
Exactly. Feels too much like cancel culture. And let's not confuse Adware with Malware.
1 likeI guess that owning up to your mistakes, feeling the cringe of your past, and showing remorse, it would show that you have matured as a person. I'll own up to my mistakes, and know to avoid such mistakes for the rest of my life.
0 likes...although in my case it was incompetence, not malice.
I think that owning up to it would make less people dunk on him.
As an embedded dev, two types of memory fragmentation are my pain point: userspace virtual memory (MMU) fragmentation means more complex DMA microcode (due to having to jump memory boundaries) and more likely to hit CAS latency with systems on DRAM if virtual memory is really desynchronized with their physical memory mapping. Heap fragmentation is actually a problem on desktop as well), where object allocation could randomly fail at any time if there are lots of small gaps between even remotely big objects on the heap.
As to achieve what CPU Rocket promised in the modern age, in Windows 10 if you feel like an expert, you could tweak the kernel scheduler parameters by creating a new power plan, and using regedit or powercfg to edit those scheduler parameters. "CPU core parking in Windows 10" is what led me down the rabbithole.
Does this video appear to be aimed at clout-chasing? The events mentioned happened 20 years ago, so I'm curious why they are being highlighted now. While I'm not dismissing the negative significance of the topic, I question the relevance of revisiting such old incidents. The creator has interviewed notable Microsoft employees like Dave Cutler and Raymond Chen, who have made remarkable contributions themselves, the fact they agreed to being interviewed by Mr. Plummer indicates to me he is held in at least some regard. Everyone makes mistakes, often driven by personal greed. This particular incident from two decades ago doesn't necessarily reflect someone's entire character but rather a lapse in judgment. The intent of this video seems to be more about seeking attention than providing meaningful insight.
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So if I say German guy invade poland happend 80 years old, is it clot chasing?
0 likes@@Xxc-iw7yj second chances are for everyone regardless of what the person is for you, having caution and awareness of a person is a must obviously, but going to the point of harassing said person reminding previous mistakes it's just plain wrong and retarded.
0 likesor else, we wouldn't be allowing irl reformed criminals and ex-convicts the opportunity of re-join society.
This whole video could've been just a simple and small PSA but instead it's a "lol EXPOSED LOOK WHAT HE DID I CAN'T BELIEVE HE WAS LIKE THIS FRFR NO CAP"
I could even go to the length of saying that Enderman is indeed overreacting the whole thing judging by this video and the tweets he made for no reason at all while providing no sane awareness to it's audience.
@@Xxc-iw7yj I am just asking some questions to understand your position. I am looking for the essence of what you're saying.
1 like@@phenom957 Dude, check your parasociality level, because to me it looks off the charts. I stated that the guy can't be trusted, and now you respond is as if I personally attacked you. All I'm saying the guy is sus because of his past and it's good to know that in advance, in case he starts shilling some shit or tries some dubious stuff again. It's not that I hate him, sometimes he makes interesting videos I would watch. He just can't be trusted as a person with integrity as far as I'm concerned. That's it.
2 likes@@Xxc-iw7yj If you don't have that relationship to him, then what are you doing? Are you doing this as a public good, or are you shaming him, or is it something else?
1 like@@phenom957 Second chances are for friends, partners or family members, not some youtubers I don't know and won't ever meet
2 likes@@Xxc-iw7yj When is it, then, do you not give second chances to people? What about Dave's situation is different than when you'd give a second chance?
1 like@@PANCHO7532 He doesn't need to be scamming today. Mere knowledge that he's capable of doing any morally dubious shit because he did that in the past is enough to deem him untrustworthy basically forever. Especially since he really doesn't want to speak about the topic and when he does, he downplays it.
3 likesmain thing that hits me is he still profits off of deliberately misleading claims about his successes through his book. his book which he currently sells and markets to those with autism as things he wish he had known, while also hiding the major reason he was successful was because he had scammed people
6 likesis this what you should take away? Probably not
pretty much this.
3 likescomplaining decades later when there isn't really any proof that Dave's still scamming at this very date it's just plain stupid and unnecessary considering how Dave is nowadays
Actually ram defragmentation could be a real thing, you forgot that the cache exists, and that it copies contiguous parts of the ram.
1 likeIts been ~20 years. Stop crying
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So? who cares about the fact that was ~20 years? Doesn't make it any better.
1 likeI used to fix a bunch of computers in that era, windows 98 and XP (crapware) was as prevalent as all the garbage crypto coins and overpriced manufactured e waste we are being shilled today.
2 likesOnly difference is people like piling on drama on the internet.
This is sad to see. I'm not subbed to him but I did watch some of his videos and I liked them. Respected him for creating Task Manager but to find out that he quit microsoft in order to scam people who aren't aware of the existence of adware..This is unfortunate.
0 likesits disappointing I was excited to see another person who likes tech with and but just to find out they are a scammer
1 likei hope he doesnt scam billions (pls reply me)
2 likesI always found that guy odd and sketchy
2 likesThe microsoft MVP program wasn't "developers at microsoft". To the best of my understanding and fuzzy ass memory, it was people in their support forums who got promoted to have some profile bling (and I think they may have also gotten some free MSDN access?).
0 likesI think the bc_programming guy is a person who was saying they were in that MVP list, and that they have downloaded leaked source code (obviously not through the MVP program).
I believe what he's saying, of course. I am just trying to clarify minor mistakes in the video is all.
Thank you for the truth
1 likeThis American cancel culture is disgusting. He has received and presumably served his sentence. What else should be required?
0 likesWell done man
1 likeJust a heads up - the reason you might want to defragment RAM is to create larger continuous free blocks for applications. I don't know Windows so well, but on classic Mac OS, programs were allocated contiguous blocks only, so if you had 2MB free, then 1k used, then 2 more MB free, you'd effectively only have 2MB available to the next program you launched, unless you did some memory management. I believe there was stuff that managed this to a degree, but it was still a minor issue and wasted RAM on macs up until the end of the "Classic" Mac OS era. I'd give more pertinent examples, but I'm not familiar with the specifics of Windows memory management.
0 likesmy heart is broken
0 likes15:48 You state that he was indicted yet show court documents from a civil lawsuit. Accusing someone of being criminally indicted when they were not seems like solid grounds for them to sue for defamation.
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30:52 "The felony was primarily happening..." This, again, makes it clear that you are accusing him of serious criminality.
0 likesI wouldn't be surprised if he has lawyers working on a lawsuit right now.
25:50 You state that it's misleading and a scam yet the software tells you that you don't have to pay for it if you agree to receive ads. Whether or not you agree with this approach to software, I don't see how it is misleading or a scam. A scam requires that someone be deceived yet I don't see any deception. Calling something a "scam" suggests that someone has acted fraudulently.
0 likesAs a general comment, you should consider the environment that existed nearly 20 years ago. Computers, operating systems, and the internet were all very different from how they operate now. Software was also distributed and marketed differently. The impugned actions and behaviour needs to be considered from the perspective of the extant conditions at the relevant time.
Concluding that software is a scam because it does not behave as you expect it to (e.g. modifying the hosts file) and, therefore, doesn't do anything, is also a dangerous approach. If, for example, it modified browser settings or somehow blocked connections using a blacklist, it would obviously do something. If you feel that this is unhelpful or does not provide sufficient value for the price that is paid, then you can state your opinion. Accusing a person of fraud based upon this opinion and without a full understanding of what the software does, or does not do, is dangerous.
It would be prudent for you to consult with legal counsel about potential liability and opportunities to mitigate damages.
Thank you for the quick response.
0 likesCivil indictment is not a thing. "Indictment" refers to a criminal prosecution.
Criminal charges must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Civil claims are determined on a balance of probabilities. The judgment was actually a settlement agreement that was reduced to a court order. None of the allegations in the lawsuit were proved.
A settlement is a compromise of disputed claims; it does not require any admissions whereas a plea in a criminal proceeding does require an acknowledgement of the underlying facts. It makes sense that a person or company would agree to settle claims to avoid spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to fight the government without a guarantee of a successful outcome.
While I am not saying that your opinion about the nature of the software is right or wrong, bolstering your statements with misstatements about the court proceeding and outcome is likely quite dangerous.
I don't think I said he was criminally indicted? Civil indictment is a thing
0 likesActually, it makes perfect sense to defragment RAM. Having RAM be sequentially sorted does result in better performance. If you look at what some of the Linux kernel people are doing with different malloc implementations, it is one of the major things they're trying to resolve. I suspect this would matter even more, on old computers. Look up memory fragmentation, it's a thing!
1 likeTCP/IP is actually a protocol (Transmission Control Protocol over Internet Protocol). Though he is optimizing the stack here (the implementation of TCP/IP), by changing registry values. It could realistically help, depending on a bunch of factors.
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@@Endermanch Well, I have my doubts about the program actually defragmenting memory. If it were, it would probably be best if it hooks and replaces the memory allocation function of the kernel, and does some simple-ish guesses, to do it better.
0 likesHow much fragmentation affects a program depends on how much dynamic memory it uses, how often it allocates/deallocates that memory, and how much of its memory is required at once. I could imagine it playing a role in some bigger productivity tasks, where a lot of objects reference eachother. But how big the impact actually is, I don't know. I just know it's there.
There are some real userspace programs for Windows that can clean something called the Working Set, introduced with Vista, and that's done with a simple function call. It can make the OS run on ridiculously small amounts of memory. It's not entirely out of the question that similar functions for freeing certain buffers might exist in older versions, so maybe the program has some validity.
I don't think it's a job a utility is fit for anyway, though? That's on the side of the operating system. I also still don't think the OS would allow the memory to be fragmented enough to create problems with allocating larger pages, else that would be a fiasco. Defrag must happen on this kind of edge cases, but RAM is optimized for random reads. It's a matter of selling the a bunch of CPU cycles to ensure faster sequential speeds (the performance improvement is insignificant)
0 likesCalling out someone for scamming while having manually placed an advertisement every 2 to 3 minutes in a 34 min video. Pure greediness.
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@@EndermanchThanks. I know about this but for security reasons I cannot install 3rd party software on that cell. I have already watched your video by the time I posted my first comment on a different device with ublock and mullvad vpn hosts on my router.
0 likesI have to apologize for misunderstanding your intentions though. Is not what I originally thought.
I will also give you a hint about a technical mistake you made in the video about ram fragmentation. Its a common issue in software memory allocator to have fragmentation in heap allocations. Especially when memory is low.
Although this makes the claim even more fake as it's literally impossible even from kernel level to do defragmentation in the allocations as this besides extra temporary storage it would need from kernel level to suspend every software running and replace the allocated pointers. Something that wouldn't be enough as when the programs would resume due to context switching the previously loaded addresses may still be present in the registers or stack including the program counter which would need to restart the entire operation prior suspension.
@@Corpsebridefan777 install YouTube Revanced for Android or uYou+ for iOS
1 like@@YaySyuAlso for the last comment, If I was an uneducated di*k like you I would make you look totally dumb. Just make an attempt to start a technical debate with me :)
0 likes@@YaySyuYou seriously have no idea who you're talking to. I don't need tech advice. Also on Android unless you use a 3rd party app or setup a dedicated endpoint in the local network to filter relevant traffic it is not possible to skip them.
0 likes@@Corpsebridefan777 I want to scream. Its so dumb to not use an adblocker.
0 likesDo you come from a third world country? This is what third world country education looks like.
@@Corpsebridefan777 No. You're tech illiterate. I suggested you use an adblocker because the FBI recommends it as an extra anti-malware security measure
0 likesYou then responded with something completely unrelated, which makes me wonder if youre just illiterate in general and cant read.
Imagine not using an adblocker in your browser because it may not block youtube ads in the future.
Yeah and passwords will be useless when quantum computers are used to brute force one day. May I reccomenf you stop using passwords at all?
Tech illiterate logic rigght there
@@Endermanch I already had to do this as it was impossible to watch your video from my cell
0 likes@@YaySyu I would say you are as soon YouTube will be placing the ads inside the video frames being steamed and it will be impossible to detect from any ad blocker.
1 likeAlso I did eventually watched it from non cellphone based device already..
My guy left a comment to expose himself as being tech naive
0 likesGet an adblocker my dude, even thw FBI straight up recommends it.
Bro fr, even on iPhone im using safari and an ad blocker. At least use uBlock or something if you’re on Windows/Linux 😂 bro really complaining about ads on a tech channel
1 likeManually? I never set ad breaks manually. I leave this up to YouTube to do. Also you should get an AdBlocker right now, why are you enduring this
6 likes@@MilitantAntiAtheism 😆 Of course
0 likesWhat? I never noticed, I have ad blocker.
4 likesWell, he's no longer allowed to make software do that anymore according to that injunction.
0 likesEverybody gangsta till "defragmenting physical RAM"
0 likeswow that’s a shame
1 likeZoomers trying not to cancel others challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
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Bro thinks journalism is cancel culture.
3 likes10000$ this guy votes for trump
Boomers trying not to scam others challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
2 likesNo... Grandpa how could you
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grandpa found the keys
0 likesIt's pretty crazy, but I think we should respect that the dude these days seems to have a overall positive impact.
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💯 agree i will still watch him but be careful of what he do and said and unsubscribe to him if he respond to badly or something worse happpen
1 likeGreat video! I have a question tho. Why are the startup and shutdown sounds so messed up on VMWare?
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@@king_james_official ok
0 likes@@sus_sand5811 🤓
0 likesdamn he seemed like a cool guy, i was subscribed to his channel till now
0 likesInteresting story thanks enderman
2 likesThere's only one question I have, what drove a retired Microsoft employee to scam other people?
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@@trliy like every scammer. They knew they could, they knew they would get paid more doing so and lastly they think they will get away with it.
0 likesDave says that he left to do visual zip
2 likesuh oh, select your player — we have to pick a side
0 likesOlder PCs did RAM very different, there would be some very small improvement(maybe) (aggregation for sequential reads) .
0 likesFYI Dave: I had to remove your SW and many others like it from vulnerable normies in the 90's and early 2000's not being able to uninstall is scammy and kinda inexcusable for someone who worked for M$. Seeing as it's all over and done with, you should man-up and apologise so I can go back to liking you please.
Thankyou Enderman, I appreciate the video, but please remember it was a different time (the wildwest) I and many people made their livings fixing the systems of ppl who fell for this kind of thing, so in a way: everyone was involved... idk
I never knew why i didn't like the guy, now i know.
0 likesWoah .... this is something
1 likeDamn,
0 likesi thought he was alright
I love that you and Bob Pony are circling around this dude like prey ever since he made the start menu and pinball videos with wrong info lmfao
2 likesMaybe we should reverse engineer those programs with Ghidra to see whats doing in the Background.
0 likesThe guy always rubbed me the wrong way anyways, I think it’s how he reads from the teleprompter like a robot. Regardless I unsubscribe from Dave’s garage asap after seeing this video.
0 likesdo Steve Gibson next...
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feeling like i'm missing out on something, whats up with steve gibson?
0 likesAs an autistic, we no longer claim him
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I'm good at drawing too
0 likesHi enderman i have a problem, I installed Windows 11 23h2 on vmware 12 after installation there is no round corner so i have to install Vmware Tools, After a successful installation the round corner is still not present
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turn on hardware graphics acceleration, that'll help
0 likesMany damage, can be worst, but the main problem was who created many clones with terrible results
0 likesYes, was a bad idea
Wonder if there's buddy's code still somewhere in Windows 11... I think I'll install Arch tomorrow
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ава прям подходит к комменту
0 likesBros avoiding problematic code
0 likesinteresting fact. Though i do not think he is doing anything shady now.
0 likesI watched his videos originally. Now it mostly seems to just be him rehearsing his days at microsoft again and again, same shit every time. It's time to block him from my feed, thanks for bringing this up!
0 likes2024 REALLY got crazier
0 likesThere are a lot of non-technical people in this forum that did not have a Windows XP machine back then. I'm sorry but nothing I have seen in this video tells me that what was done was malware out right. Was it a money grab? Sure. That's called capitalism. And any sysadmin Will tell you that the windows registry has hundreds of settings that don't need to be there because of backwards compatibility from Microsoft. Considering he worked there, he knew about them - had insider knowledge, and knew how he could clean things up. They probably bugged him, so he sought them out and provided people a way to fix it.
1 likeDid people need to do this? No. But that doesn't mean it didn't do something. Is it a scam? I'm on the fence. If it doesn't hurt you is it a scam? I don't know. That said, his channel gives a lot of great information and I enjoy it. I will reserve my judgment until I see something that shows that he actually hurt people from his software.
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David released a video today that I clicked on very shortly after release. I clicked on a comment that he responded to 30 seconds prior and suggested he respond to the criticism.
4 likesThe comment got 3 likes and then it was deleted. Thats not a good look, regardless of guilt.
And you cant just excuse it as capitalism when an american court literally found enough wrong doing to seek damages.
Ah so that's why Dave is still using Microsoft products despite them being glorified adware.
0 likeswhy is this unlisted
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I'm in the process of remaking it, in fact!
6 likesEnderman said he made a bad job on the documentary so he decided to delist the video with possibly remaking it in the future.
1 likeWhy is this unlisted?
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@@TurboLight thnx
0 likesEnderman said he made a bad job on the documentary so he decided to delist the video with possibly remaking it in the future.
1 likeanother day, another person gets outed on youtube/twitter for some scams
0 likesThis makes me sad and angry about social media! You dont know everything about the person who is on any platform and what they did/might do while they wear a mask to make them seem good and to attract viewers and subs. A bad person can easily hide their true horrifying side behind a bunch of good text about them in the description or by saying "i worked at this company" while after that he tuened to the evil pad but he wont show!
0 likesI like these exposure channels uncovering the truth behind the person on any social platform. Lets hope we expose more of these but also lets hope that youtube aint full of these people because then there wil be no one left to watch
Wow! This is interesting!
1 likeDo I even care about this? Probably not.
1 likenot any more of a grifter move than shoving openai api calls in everything now, don't really care. he saw a way to make a buck and chased it and made millions, what an absolute hustler
0 likesThis makes me feel sad. I like his videos for some reason, even when they are pretty long and not always that inside information what you're seeking for.
0 likesRegistry clearers do something. The thing is that even on a clean install, some regkeys are not assigned. The problem is when you delete those keys, it may need them later. But unused keys can actually cause blanks, because the database is still loaded in memory. One of the reasons I dislike it, it is pretty useless.
Thanks for posting, but also making me feel bad at the same time lol.
why are sounds broken? i have the same problem maybe you can help?
0 likesI didn't really get what was the problem? You didn't cover much of the legal stuff but looking at it the complaint it was not about scamming or defrauding someone but rather how difficult the software was to remove or left files around even when uninstalled and used fomo tactics to upsell more garbage software. I think this video misrepresents some of the facts for shock value
1 likeThanks for these infos
0 likesWatch him try to c0pyr!ght str!ke this video 😂😂😂😂😂
2 likesEverybody is getting exposed for something every day lol
1 likeWhy not use process monitor to see what the website blocker was writing to?
0 likesBruh i thought he was better yhan this i have been watching his vids for years and i didn't have a clue. Good job spreading information,n
0 likesуже 4 года на тебя подписан, чувак я рандомно это сделал :D
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@@nodrognameerf круто
0 likesя смотрел его ещё лет 7 назад. как тебе такое?
0 likesbro i thought this was a livestream 💀💀
1 likeDamn, I didn't see that coming
0 likesliterally 1984
2 likesyou really take after rougeamp huh down to the model m say do you remember AmpDan1 for me that was a thing I looked forward to watching during a dark time in my life. I'm not surprised by all this btw the guy seemed like a nobody and only talked about the days at microsoft. I've had suspicions about it from the start but not say anything because I was worried about being looked down on for it
1 likegod damn it... why must the YouTube creators I like keep turning out to be arsehats
1 likeYou know its a scam when even an error has an upgrade button
1 likeOh youve got to be joking me.
0 likesIt only found those errors because it was Windows, I guarantee if you tried to run it on Mac it would not be able to find a single error.
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you can't run an exe on mac , you can use wine or playonmac but it will give you the same errors. it is programmed to trick you into buying the full version
0 likes@@xgui4-studios you should try running the program on mac to see I'm right.
1 likemac ? more like mac are crap !
0 likesnever trust microsoft employees
1 likeWhen I watched ONE video of him he already seemed like a egoist fraud. I dont believe he made task manager either.
0 likessomeone download and make a torrent link in case this video gets blocked.
0 likesDamn he disappointed me
1 likeHe gonna be busy to delete comments on his YT channel talk about his past.
0 likesI could kiiiiiinda see the memory defragmentation if it allows for more efficient i guess organization as far as virtual to physical mappings of pages goes, so it in theory might be doing something but yeah it's pretty snake oily and for the average user this isn't going to mean a whole lot of difference and is kinda too much of an implementation detail that yeah the OS probably should just be doing on its own (and XP might've already been doing).
1 likeThe net turbo is also kinda, stuff the OS should've already been doing, and XP probably also was doing. There were also several free tools which did the same thing. And again, for the average user considering the average internet/network speeds, it's just not going to be doing a whole lot so kinda snake oil-y.
I always figured he was a bit of a bootlicker but yeah just a usual kinda bougey tech nerd type who's an unapologetic serial entrepreneur. Your typical libertarian type who just believe in their personal freedom to take advantage and exploit people and justifies it for various reasons that amount to their "superiority". It's just toxic and an approach to things that if allowed to persist that at scale just creates so many problems and waste that are just unnecessary and further escalation of existing problems. (of course, he's a pretty minor case in the larger picture, but a part of a cultural problem)
"The nontechnical user i convinced it was useful to thought it was useful and paid me for it, so it's obviously fine. The market said it was fine. I did nothing wrong, I'm totally innocent!"
Ohh I installed a bunch of those scan stuff at the time lol sometimes I installed the pirat* version of those things lol good old times!!!
0 likesif you want to censor youself in the future you could call the last one there at 19:24 the TF2 spy sites lol
2 likesJust watched a video of his channel then I saw this premiere talking about himself, What?
0 likesHow much of your audience was even alive for the better part of 2006?
0 likesSounds like he just took the easy street after Microsoft. Either Stay and be made to do actual work, or start a new company that saves the unknowing civilian from the Boogie man inside the PC and the internet lol.
0 likesSeems like he got away from it before it ruined him completely 🤣.
Dave must be desperate for side income as a Microsoft dev 😀😀😀
0 likesI'm surprised it's not april 1st
0 likes4:04 that just extending the vram no not video ram virtual ram
0 likesVery interesting!
0 likesHow sad I loved his assembly videos
0 likesWonder if @DavesGarage will respond to this?
1 likeHi it's Microsoft and I'm here to fix your computer
0 likesunlistred
1 likeYeah, dave is a top tier scammer. He has good stories though. 😂
1 likeyou should definitely make more videos with your voice, i can literally hear the accent fading away lol
1 likeCan you try to reverse engineer these programs to actually see what they are doing? It would be interesting to see other malware/viruses/pups reverse engineered aswell.
0 likesposted a link to your video to fedi btw, as it seems you don't have an account
0 likesI feel like 50/50 that this is the type of thing to pop off on there tbh
Can you please install windows to folder named /
0 likesLooks like Dave has a TON of bots praising him and pretending he’s done nothing wrong. Sort by “new” and you’ll see them
2 likesWhile I don't disagree on the exposition of the facts about Dave Plummer, I find it quite irritating the arrogant tone, especially in contrast with the clear lack of technical knowledge. As also stated elsewhere, memory can be fragmented just as well. The fact that it has been designed for random access doesn't imply that aligned data isn't going to speed up stuff. Again, as already pointed out elsewhere it is highly likely that the software mentioned here did nothing to realign memory chunks, but this is already quite clear to anyone.
2 likesWhy not keeping the presentation to a level more suitable to your skills?
3:34 it was literally 1984, lol (lol no it wasn't a dystopia)
0 likesguys new enderman movie dropped
0 likescould I please get to know which virtual machine enderman uses??
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@@xgui4-studios thank u man
0 likesVMware workstation pro
0 likesOver to You @Dave, answer for yourself, once you have I may re-subscribe.
1 likeI am shocked
0 likesim sorry wtf
1 likeDave’s fake software was better than Norton Utilities, which used more system resources than it freed up. I don’t know how many times someone would complain of a slow computer and they “optimized” their computer with Norton. I removed it and the system was back to normal.
0 likesMe when Im on time for a premiere:
2 likesI was trying to make a my first video using this topic (i even had the script done, just needed to edit the video), great stuff on the video tho. ❤
1 likeDave Plumber is a legend, I don't care if a bunch of people have decided to tar and feather him for something he may or may not have done over 20 years ago
1 likeRegarding memory defragmentation. I assume, the uploader never heard about memory/heap fragmentation? Memory allocation/trimming? Do your research before uploading videos. I am not defending software which is being demonstrated, but this is just a fact, that memory fragmentation exists and can lead to performance issues.
0 likesdang in a fresh Windows installation too
0 likesmy man please close your browser tabs
0 likesThat was 2006. People change. He’s still a net positive in my book.
0 likesTCP/IP is a protocol not a stack, that is what the “P” stands for in both acronyms. Also fragmented ram is a real problem if you have a small amount of ram and limited address space as new allocations of buffers, etc need to be made from contiguous free memory or they will fail with an out of memory error. Not saying the tool works, but it is not making up the issue.
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tcp and ip are both protocols, its in their name. but tcp/ip is a stack
1 like@@QuintonDolan TCP/IP is a stack they are protocols individually. Lookup tcp/ip model
0 likes14:09 did audio stutter?
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@@Endermanchlogin sound also sounded weird
1 likeNo, I opened a water bottle 😂
1 like17:20 Section 4.4
0 likesyoo wsg my fav ytber. also damn im kinda blown away but not sure if I should be shocked
1 likeI thought he was completely halal bro...
1 likeWow. I mean, I didn't trust this guy for a long time, but this goes beyond what I thought him capable.
0 likesI enjoyed some of his videos in the beginning. Cracks started to show for me after he made that language benchmark series, asking for contributions of code, and then just forgot about that and moved on. Kind of dick move for the people that spend time on it (I did not, but would've been very annoyed). Then he started to make ever more egregious claims, and started putting autism in every video title. When he then released that book with that title, I knew that he was clearly not the kind of man that I wanted anything from.
But this... Damn.
I never liked that dude, thanks!
0 likesoh yippee more youtuber drama
0 likesNeato another hitpeice about something someone did before half the people watching this were even born, poorly researched too as dave has mentioned this before, its also not a secret it's literally on his wikipedia page, and calling the software a scam is pure ignorance, as someone else mentioned in the comments ram defragmenting is a real thing, and old on windows OS's registry cleaners did actually do things and could fix issues with your machine. This just reeks of clout sharking.
1 likeincher net chield!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 likewow, that sucks
0 likes[atleast its better than dr disrespect, but not by a lot]
Enderman can you record a video of downloading malware’s on Windows 11 “Malware11” Please
0 likesi almost "liked" the guy back then although i didn't mind
2 likesseems like 2024 is the year of exposing people
are you at all worried that youtube/dave may try to take down this video?
2 likeswait, what
0 likesyou never actually corrected your videos and the thing with thinking you are setting up the system user when in reality the oobe was checking for updates
0 likesthey're either a pdf file or a scammer. what happened to youtube...
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Don't insult PDFs by correlating them with chomos again. 😡
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0 likesThis comment was made when the view count hit 3333 views.
2 likeswouldn't defragmenting ram reduce the chance of failing a malloc ? :^)
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RAM fragmentation is a real issue inherent to many applications, but it requires reconsidering whole memory management strategy. It is also largely internal within individual pages, so operating system can generally do nothing about it.
0 likesOnly some virtual machine based runtimes can defragment their RAM. Even where it is hypothetically possible, most such runtimes do not, because overhead would be too high.
The claim by this utility that it can defragment RAM is misleading, it can do no such thing.
Memory is divided into fixed-size pages (that you can traverse and link in any order) which then get allocated to running programs, so I'm pretty sure it wouldn't do anything in terms of that
1 likeBasically, memory paging already solves this
...?
0 likesDang 5000+ views in an hour!
0 likesah 7 hours ago, it waS mIdnight
0 likesfuck
1 likeanother one bites the dust
Sadge :(
1 likeI see no evidence of anything except bad software and a lawsuit. So how does that diminish his expertise?
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@@FemboyCatGaming There's also something suspicious about his machines. He has over 100 TB of storage on his main PC. Even if you were dealing with gigantic AI datasets, you wouldn't need that much storage. Considering he also promoted Chia in the past, that could be the explanation for it....
0 likesHe knows nothing about linux which doesnt stop him from yapping nonsense about it. Like when he said closed source programs were better after the XZ linux eploit when months later we find out Solar Winds happened because MS refused to fix an azure exploit which countless engineers and security firms warned them about as admitting to having a security vulnerability would lower the stock and risk positional contracts. isnt closed source software SO much more secure Dave!!
1 like@@BrunodeSouzaLino he was , he is no longer i hope...
0 likesThat's not the point. The point is he was a scammer.
7 likesEnderman can you please make videos involving adware, and also using android virtual machines?
0 likesMe: Makes Scamware
1 likeDamm hope this does not haunt me 20 years later
Now:
Your voice is beautiful
0 likesCommenting for the algorithm. Knew something was up with this guy despite enjoying some of his content. Disappointed, but not surprised. Good work from you and all your fellow contributors for bringing this to light again, Enderman. I hope he addresses this properly; people deserve to know the truth. Even so, I find it unlikely with his penchant for telling tall tales.
2 likesWoW
0 likesYou just exposed former MS employee, I don't watch him for like 2 years, and I wouldn't watch his chanell. I better watch your chanel, to see more exposed tech scams.
0 likesOff Topic: Do you support Ukraine?
0 likesGay Network
1 likeOh no! A random old man has engaged in sketchy activity!
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I like when they did to fix
0 likesBro, what is wrong with literally every YouTuber at this point???
1 likeLIVE CHAT WENT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likescant trust shit in 2024
2 likesNOOOOOO
0 likesWild
0 likesJesus! I think I also bought this 'registry cleaner' back in 2003–04! I was so naive...
1 likeWhat do you mean it makes no sense to defragment RAM?
1 likeYes it does, if memory is fragmented, it becomes harder if not impossible to allocate new contiguous memory.
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@@SianaGearz Yes, the software does mislead what it actually does. but Enderman doesn't seem to understand enough about the topic to have accurately criticized the software. He should really do better
0 likesMemory fragmentation (more correctly heap fragmentation) is a real problem but the only practical solution is fragmentation avoidance, you can't really defragment it, not when you have a system full of applications written in C related languages or languages with a similar memory model, be it even Pascal/Delphi or anything of a kind. Where it is possible, it's impractical for performance reasons.
0 likesMicrosoft Basic actually defragmented its own memory. On 8-bit computers. It ran at a leisurely pace of several operations per second on machines that cost a little more than a nice calculator and could execute about a quarter million machine instructions per second. Memory was counted in kilobytes and compromises had to be made.
You don't need to defragment physical RAM on PC because all pages are equivalent to each other, and contiguous memory is never needed, OS just pieces together a needed contiguous chunk of virtual memory from any random assortment of physical pages. The software is misleading in what it does.
@@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683 Oh.. I was thinking about that the wrong way around.
0 likes@@nikkiofthevalley No it makes total sense, like I said memory defragers usually work by moving things in PHYSICAL memory, but they stay in the same place in virtual memory (because obviously, they have to). the one thing that seems to be complete bullshit is it seems to suggest as if memory fragmentation builds up over time, even between boot cycles.
0 likesIt says defragment physical RAM, which is nonsensical. If it said defragment virtual memory, then it would make sense.
0 likesNow the question really is, does his software actually defrag ram, it's a fairly hard task. I am pretty sure it is impossible to this if paging is disabled, as in order to move memory around without crashing the program, you need some way to make sure that pointers to that memory would still be valid
0 likesI unsubscribe to him
2 likesAs an autistic person myself, I can understand miss remembering or some memories getting filled in with extra info I later found out my brain just made up.
0 likesHi
0 likes21:35 bro cannot say 2 thousand lol
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2 likesI don't think it's scam. You can say it's greedy and annoying. Softwares you mentioned in the video according to how it's implemented they're not scam. For example the MemTurbo. Defragmentation isn't useless for RAM. Instead it's everywhere nowdays. Linux even have this built into the kernal. And it's technology keep improving. You can see the significant improvement of memory defragmentation(they don't call it defragmentation though) every 1 or 2 year from Android or any other operating system.
1 likeAnd NetTurbo is same. According what he says about how it work in the website. It's basically tuning the tcp window parameters etc.. in Windows. And this is the problem that exists in modern Windows. With the default tcp window parameter in Windows. I can only get 10Mbps at long distance speed test have high packet loss and latency(1000km+). After tuning TCP window myself. I can get over 150Mbps on 300Mbps fiber.
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He still got taken to the cleaners over it
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Yeah me too man
2 likesYes
1 likeHUH?
0 likesYO IM ON TIME (sort of)
0 likesyoooo endermanch video after so long!! instant liked
1 likethis is old news and judging again today because we are rediscovering this is not just, but you do you I guess. sips tea
0 likesBy now the only trustworthy channel is you bro😢
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@@CrystalStarscapeI hope I don't! Mark my words 😀
5 likesuntil he gets a million subs. everyone seems to lose their mind at that point.
5 likeshi!
0 likesю.
For the algorithm:)
0 likesclassic sign of someone being chronically online: dragging up shit from 20 years ago yawn
0 likesI'll keep watching him anyway lol
0 likesNow expose the weird guy that claims he created iTunes and was better than Jobs (no joke, it's an Apple Ex-Employee that makes dumb takes online, hope you find something like this lol), cool video, and thanks for letting us now the scammy background of Dave, never trust your heroes they said.
1 likewhat a nice exposing video.
0 likesI'm still watching, but I'm pretty sure your wrong or rather mistaken., especially recarding any malicious or bad intent on the vendors part and whether related to DP at all? . Will comment further later.
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Looks like he does cover some of it, and his perspective on it, in the book. Still tbc if anything was deliberately malicious or directly under his control.
0 likesWhy was he convicted by the US government then and fined half a million? Are you still “pretty sure”?
1 likewow
0 likesCrazy to think that someone can “claim” all these so called scams without actually reviewing the court documents, everyone just jumps on the bandwagon.
2 likesClickbait goes crazy!
Just remember anything can look bad at first glance everyone should just do their own research to get the actual truth.
holy shit bro
0 likesWow can’t have shit in 2024!
0 likesI bet Dave doesn't even watch skibidi toilet 😔😔
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0 likesTask manager alternatives?
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modern task manager was not created by him
0 likeswho's next? enderman exposed by enderman?
0 likesi knew that guy was sketch
1 likeBottom line
0 likesHello
0 likesTHIS IS DEPRESSING I LOVE THIS GUY 😭😭😭😭😭😭
0 likes5:14 "600%" "7 times" 😭
0 likesvid was ok
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1 likegood video
1 likeunlisted lol
2 likesDigging up someones past in an effort to smear him sounds like judgement to me.
2 likesIf he has changed and is no longer partaking in such activities, is he not entitled to leave the past in the past?
Why is it important that people know this, if it's not to simply smear him today for his past actions you have a problem with, then what is your intent?
Genuinely curious - not excusing his past but if this has already been litigated and court orders executed, it seems like this isn't enough for you? You have to take matters into your own hands to get adequate justice so to speak?
That sounds like you ARE wanting to be a judge in the court of public opinion no?
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@@emre_ez i haven't read the book either but i think it's a bit judgemental to take a stance that he needs to apologize for something that doesn't involve you and based off snippets shown in this video (ie one side of the story from someone not directly involved)
0 likesIt's the exact pitchfork behavior this video seems to be aiming for, which by all means you're entitled to do, it just seems like a whole lot of wasted energy over events from 20 years ago.
I'm of the opinion that ppl can and do change for the better (and sometimes worse) and airing out someones dirty laundry is in poor taste when it's already been through the courts and they've "done their time" or paid the price of past mistakes so to speak.
Each to their own though ✌️
@@sirtra i am no hater. if an intresting piece of content of his showed up at my home page i would watch it. What i figured from watching this video is that in his book, he talks about this in a very diffrent way, misrepresenting what he did. I didnt read that book. Im just talking from the snippets of it shown in the video
0 likesEdit: also, yeah he can be ashamed of his past, he should be. but he shouldnt go "we never scammed" (as shown in the video" but rather "We did that yes and im not proud of it i apoligize" etc
@@emre_ez how exactly is he hiding it? Because he doesn't wear a t-shirt with it printed on it or something?
0 likesThere are 2 sides to every story but even if he is actively hiding his past, is he not entitled to since he has already been punished by ruling in a court?
Why does it upset you that someone may not be proud of their past and not talk or discuss it out of shame.
I wasn't aware of this before watching this video, i've watched and commented on many of Dave's videos so i like his content but i wouldn't call myself a fan. Does this change my opinion on him? Yeah a little but not significantly enough that i'll refuse to watch his content or feel deceived by him.
Certainly doesn't make me think more highly of his character, but i'm left scratching my head at the overly strong reactions as if ppp just found out Dave had cheated on them or something.
The tone and nature of this video is designed to do just that though, it gives more a "grab your pitchforks lets get him" vibes than "heres a little dirty secret about Dave he doesn't want you to know".
Haters gotta hate ig 🤷
what hes doing isnt leaving the past in the past and moving on, but rather hiding the past. i took this video more as a message for him to come clean about this instead of dodging questions and misrepresenting reality (like in his book)
0 likesI WATCHED THIS GUY!! FUCK
2 likesBRUH
0 likesI THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE MAN ON YOUTUBE I COULD TRUST BUT NO
0 likesevery business is a scam. who isn't a scammer. pretty normal
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What the fuck do you even mean?
1 likeNope
5 likesI wonder what Louis Rossman and GN will make of this.
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Nothing... They don't chase dug up drama.
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0 likesbro i just liked and got 666
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@@Butterscotch_96 lol
0 likesOne time my teacher went to AirPlay and the code was 6666. The whole class was screaming. It was so funny.
2 likes😭 i had this happen to me twice this week
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0 likesHey Enderman i was wondering if I could give you a challenge you can answer no or yes but basically get a new cheap pc and then modify the bios taskmgr and cmd and run cmd and taskmgr on the bios menu
0 likesThat’s the challenge
Ok
This is honestly a bit of a witch hunt, if you consider the fact that Dave is Autistic and an ex Windows dev he likely 100% believed these utilities were fixing things he saw as problems. Did they provide any actual benefit to the end user, probably not but to describe them as malware is dishonest.
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Mate, the US government convicted him and he had to pay out half a million in fines! He absolutely is a scammer.
4 likesAnd you can’t blame autism for putting those prompts at start up and shutdown
TCP is protocol btw. It has protocol in it's name lmao.
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@@pidojaspdpaidipashdisao572 TCP/IP is a protocol *stack*, it's a different thing. and who is nitpicking if you literally commented something nitpicky?
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1 like1.he also sold scareware and rogues, it's literally the reason he got sued
2.me correcting you doesn't mean I'm more horrible than a former scammer, I may be nitpicky, but atleast it's far better than scamming vulnerable people
@@somerandomcapybara you are even worse than him. Stop nitpicking. This whole video is also just a scam if we look at it from his perspective. Yes he sold placeboware, so what?
0 likesHe never said TCP is not a protocol, he said that TCP/IP is not a protocol
1 likeMore like Dave Bummer, but really I dont care and still like him. He is no worse than someone making drama/clickbait youtube vids, or all of us here watching.
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what's worse: a big scammer or just a youtuber with clickbait vids?
1 likeHe's a scammer?
2 likesget Sued for Slander lmao
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0 likesShould this be funny
0 likesLOL
0 likeslol that's amazing
0 likesfirst time here on premiere
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same. incher net chield!!!!!!!
0 likesD1 yapper
0 likesListen bro, and Broski’s, to take an angle here. I have to tell you this is just the way the Internet was during the 90s.
1 likeDave is very transparent about how everything was new, was broken, or protection needed to exist, so we can’t blame our forefathers for pushing the limits in the name of science/experimentation/it’s just the way it was…
This video is interesting, I feel informed, but slow your role for real, take a deep breath and tell yourself you wouldn’t have done the same thing in the wild west of software 30 years ago, you know you would have ;-) (
(if you were smart enough).
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Smart enough to capitalize off of vulnerable people? I'm sorry, I'd rather make something of value before selling it. There was plenty of wiggle room back then to make something great too, instead of scamming people.
8 likesGood video
1 likeWhat is there really to gain by dragging people through the mud? I really hate this kind of videos right or wrong because its a poo flinging match
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well he doesn't say "runner of a scam website" in his intro, he hid it and completely underplayed the lawsuit online
4 likesTo add on, the court hearing he admited to wrongdoing and paid his dues. Doesn't make him clean but I don't think he needs to come out now and do anything with it.
0 likesYikes, Ender. It's in the past. Everyone has skeletons in their closet, NOBODY is squeaky clean. There's a reason every big YouTuber out there is being exposed for some kind of scandal or another. I wonder what sort of fucked up shit YOU'VE done in your time 👀 maybe an investigation into you is warranted?
0 likesLook, it's a guaranteed given that if you're interesting enough to make good content on YouTube, you're interesting enough to have done questionable or even downright morally bankrupt shit in your past. Let's all stop pretending like this is some big bad revelation 🙄
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@@GlenHHodges shut up npc
1 like@@Endermanchso you were almost 3 years old when Dave was sued? Seems like you have no context for most of your ‘documentary’. You poor pathetic young man.
0 likeswdym nobody is squeaky clean? even registered pedos past should be forgotten? enderman at least wasnt trying to extract money from tech illiterate people in predatory ways - that is the issue
3 likesMy past is 20 years, I haven't royally fucked up like that guy. I get what you're saying, but research me all you want. I haven't done anything vile like that. I honestly feel like different people draw a line in a different spot, but this surely crosses the line for me and recontextualizes Dave's work.
2 likesI used to really like your stuff man, how crazy for clout do you have to be to dig into 20 year old resolved bullshit?
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@@Endermanch These morons think journalism is cancel culture. You dont need these trump supporters as fans
0 likes@@hrr597 He only payed, he didn't have any prision time. Cry harder.
1 like@@dumbfloppa you should follow your own advice.
0 likes@@Endermanch you're in it for the clout don't lie you zoomer khunt. Dave paid for his crimes 20 years ago. He doesn't owe any of you an apology or explanation you delusional fcks
0 likes@@ColdsteakGo to hell
1 like@@nodrognameerfwow! you're so brave and an independent thinker! you sure showed me, repeating [youtuber opinion] to get them internet points!
2 likes@@papajohnscookie I expected nobody to give a fuck
1 likeDid you just expect this to never be mentioned?
0 likesguys look, a CPUrocket user!
3 likesThe virtue-signaling too. Like man, if you really care, keep talking about current software scams, where people are ACTIVELY getting damaged.
2 likesNot this ancient lore about some retired engineer.
Okay maybe not for clout, but a selfish personal satisfaction. Like who tf even cares. I doubt the original victims even remember.
2 likesYou're wrong thinking I did this for clout. This video isn't even doing well compared to what I could have produced instead of embarking on this 2-day journey.
2 likesthis is the 1000th comment will i get a like by enderman??
0 likesI guess autism and intellect make strange bedfellows........
0 likesAutistic millionaire :)))
0 likes“Tool to Scan” is only one letter away from “Tool to Scam”
0 likesSo you were almost 3 years old when Dave was sued? Seems like you have no context for most of your ‘documentary’. You poor pathetic young man.
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I do live kids @@eobardthawnemcoc I have 3 children and 2 of them are older than Endermanch.
0 likeswait is that a dave plummer on your video with like 60 views? lol
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0 likesYou like kids huh?
1 likeHe's also generally full of shit
1 likeI remember using MemTurbo with Windows 95 back in the day and actually finding it surprisingly useful - it's worth remembering that Win9x was an actual trash fire and would typically suffer significant stability- and performance degradation over time, especially after running particularly hefty pieces of software such as games. It wasn't all that uncommon to just have to reboot the system every so many hours during heavy use just to free up system resources that Windows itself just wasn't all that willing to release on its own. In that regard at least MemTurbo did help cut down on the reboots - at least on relatively low memory systems.
0 likesOf course, MemTurbo also instantly became redundant the moment Microsoft swapped the main Windows branch from Win9x to WinNT with 2000/XP, since NT was actually capable of reliably managing system resources where 9x just... wasn't. I recall the Win9x Task Manager was similarly rather unreliable at times when it came to shutting down programs that had stopped working, to the point where I used to use this other piece of third party software - WinKill, I believe? with the sole purpose of just sitting in systray and providing a reliable way of forcibly shutting down hung processes that Win9x itself just wasn't willing or able to close down for whatever reason.
It was kind of just what it was like running Windows back then - Win9x just wasn't either particularly reliable or stable, and bluescreens used to be far, FAR more common - it wasn't unheard of to end up seeing them on a weekly, or even daily, basis in some cases. Of course, none of this was helped by how much of a transitionary period this all took place during, either - you had the steady transition from the old ISA bus to the newer PCI one, and while PCI Plug and Play was generally pretty reliable, ISA Plug and Play was... less so - there's a reason "Plug and Pray" became a turn of phrase. There was also the whole 3D hardware accelerator revolution effectively starting with the 3Dfx Voodoo cards, moving on to the TNT2 and then eventually having programmable shaders introduced with the GeForce 3, along with all the changes to both OpenGL and DirectX happening during that while, and you even had the shift from using IPX/SPX to TCP/IP as the dominant protocol stack for things like LAN parties and the like. I distinctly recall the original Half-Life having an issue with IPX where it'd randomly disconnect you with a message saying "error: no error"
The thing about MemTurbo is that it was very much a product of that particular era and doesn't really make much sense outside of it - it exists purely because of how broken Windows 95/98/Me actually was, and the moment you swap to a version of Windows that's actually capable of managing its own memory with even the slightest degree of competency, MemTurbo instantly becomes largely and entirely useless.
5:24 TCP/IP “Transmission Control PROTOCOL/Internet PROTOCOL”. What part of that is lost on you? Ah yes, everything. Because you don’t exist on a level capable of explaining anything remotely technical.
0 likesHow do you wake up everyday knowing you exist as a YouTube parasite?
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@@Endermanch Keep deleting my comments like the pussy you are.
0 likes@@Endermanch Not only are you a parasite. You’re the very scam you cry about in your widdle video. Lying about what you found. Obfuscating information. Making assertions without evidence. You ARE the lowest form of YouTube content. Low effort, rage bait and convinced of your own intelligence. Go ahead, delete this comment as well. Just proves my point further.
0 likesPs, TCP/IP is still a protocol no matter how much you want to feel you’re right.
@@Endermanch No you… since I’m forced to operate at this level now 🙄. You are a parasite. I watched your whole video and came to the conclusion that your whole schtick is to generate outrage for clicks. Let’s take your registry cleaner segment. It quite clearly outputs the registry path, the key type and the issue. But you merrily skip over verifying the results to see if it actually is factual. You’re being disingenuous on purpose and just writing it off. You stalled when the post-clean scan came back with 22 results showing the scan actually did what it was advertised to do and then swiftly moved along. And then act amazed that a registry key could be blank from RTM. Your content is low effort, caters to the most basic of viewer (picture the dented head meme with drool on the lips). You’re lazy (finding the information in the court documents) and shows a level or preparedness akin to someone in a coma.
0 likesBut hey, since you can make these opinions about someone you don’t know, so can I. I mean, we both came to the same conclusion over stuff found on the internet right? Right? Of course I’m right. Not even questionable.
And no, that’s not what a stack is. But stay dumb. Couldn’t have you evolving otherwise you’re have to put more effort into shitting out another video.
You're a parasite. TCP is a protocol. IP is a protocol. TCP/IP is a stack.
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how god damn stupid you sound.. this guy was ahead of the curve they all installed broswer helpers or some sort of ad something.
0 likesyou cant even use the internet today with out a ad some where
start of a video middle end
load a website and 30 ads will load even before the content that you want does
try facebook ADS
insta ADS
google ADS
google email or any online email ADS
you can not escape the ads where ever you go
back in the days you need them mem doublers and what not to fake more ram then you had
some times it was the only way to get some software to work
i cant remember the name of the site but they use to have broswers that would pay you to browse the web and look at ads
i want to say it was hotwire
HEY NO ONE WILL EVER NEED MORE THEN 640K
what ever the line was
4:50 Um, defragmenting memory isn't about speed. 🤦 Imagine you have 10mb of unused RAM on a 16mb system and want to allocate 2mb, but all of the free space is broken up into blocks that are less than 2mb. You can't allocate it (at least not without a lot of hassle). Defragmenting the memory would reorder the allocated blocks to create larger CONTIGUOUS blocks of free space. (Now whether a program COULD do such a thing is a different matter, but those were different times, so it might. 🤷)
0 likes4:57 No, I absolutely do understand that "just-booted feeling", it makes sense. As you use the system and programs allocate and free memory, it gets more and more fragmented, which creates more overhead to keep things working rather than throw misleading and specious "out of memory" errors. Most people wouldn't understand why they're getting that message when it shows that they have plenty of free space.
5:07 Any time you see "up to", just assume that's the contrived gain in a fake, manufactured-for-best-results test scenario and you'll never get anywhere close to the boasted results.
5:24 You do realize that marketing copy is not written for techies, it's written for generic customers, right? 🤨 … 5:35 Never mind. 🤦
5:45 Meh, everybody tweaked registry settings for the networking settings back then.
6:42 Does ClipMate still exist? 🤔 ClipMate 4.5.2. 😀
6:40 Freeing RAM is NOT what TurboMem did (or at least purported to do). Freeing memory is NOT a problem, freeing CONTIGUOUS blocks of memory is. 🙄
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de fragmenting memory has not been an issue for 40 years. there is no "continuous memory" anymore, the OS (or hardware nowadays) just tricks the program into believing it is continuous.
0 likesI think it has been pretty aparent that his main goal with his youtube channel has always been to make money. And he has autism. Some people with autism also have some anti-social personality traits.
1 likeI used to have a friend who was an autist. He liked to go into online games, pretend to be a girl and get gifts from boys. He also lied all the time. He wasn’t really a bad person, he just did not have any morals. Im not saying all people on the spectrum are like this, but some are.
He went on to work as cobol programmer at a bank. Im worried.
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I am autistic, have many other autistic friends and we all have morals, it's just that some people are assholes that need to be shunned from society.
1 likeRegistery Cleaners were common in the days, even renominated suites like Norton SystemWorks would offer something like that.
0 likesAdware, yeah, the pest of the times, but today.... ads are included in your Operating System if you're running WIndows. Oh, how times have changed.
there could be something to the memory recovery and whatnot, i dont know enough about how windows allocates ram to be sure but it could have been kernel induced issues not the physical ram? and there might be rationale behind tuning some of the scheduler parameters but i dont even know if you could do that on the old nt kernel? if dave could show how this works that'd help. the software and website were still as scammy as anything from that era but i guess its worth noting that this was literally how tech was sold back then. famously the guy from mcafee gave a talk at mit (i think it was) talking about how to recover from failure and explained how they knew their product was sh-t and didnt work and some free options were better but they still sold the hell out of it and made a fortune. that was literally the name of the game for big players and small. i still think its reprehensible *but it was normalized a lot*, everything said "buy now or die!" for a while back then much like youtubers using clickbait titles and misleading thumbnails and the rest of it. gross but i think it deserves a little asterisk.
0 likeswhere i get really annoyed with dave's software is when i get a call from a factory who cant produce anything because their ancient industrial control pc with xp sp1 has a clicking drive. i swap the drive, it refuses to admit its licensed because the drive serial number changed, i cant upgrade to the last service pack that disables activation because that breaks their io card drivers, and im back to bypassing wga by hand again like its the fking 2000s. last time i literally punched my hand so hard my wristwatch exploded into pieces. for nearly my entire life the only people windows activation has ever stopped from using windows are the paying fking customers. wtf is wrong with people? do they actually believe wga did something meaningful to stop piracy? or was it all a psyop to calm spooked shareholders and everyone knew it was stupid but did it anyway for the anti-piracy buzzword in the monday meeting? well thanks to that i ended up going through a literal tornado at my hotel while spending 3 days fking with this. yeah fun times. i coulda fkin died while dealing with the dying gasps of microsoft's anti-piracy heyday. people didnt get to go to work and do their job and get paid. american products got delayed and a bunch of money was spent for nothing, i cant imagine how we're being beat by china though, right? while scamware is bad, that lot has done much worse and i dunno if adware qualifies him to stand out among his peers. look up the 'windows for warships project' (no really its real) for some real facepalmage.
It's incredible how Microsoft employees are almost universally lying, corporate swine, no matter how long ago they worked at the company
2 likesI think it'd be cool if some reverse engineering work was done (and showcased) on InternetShield to see if it actually does anything
0 likes...Honestly anyone stupid enough to fall for any of those probably shouldn't be on the internet in the first place.
0 likesI think your being a tad critical. Im still waiting to hear the scam. As someone who grew up writing basic programs, shareware, and uninfecting family members pc's I personally think it sits between tame and actually useful. I bet you half that software was for win9x. Several tools are unnecesary for xp but would make a HUGE diference in win 98. Things like the registry and how the DOS kernal cleared virtual memory was an actual issue that affected long term stability. Aloso had one of the worst out of the box experiences with tcp/ip. basically broken, took a year of tweakng to get it to reach google from my network. as far as ads, I still consider that free. And so does the industry, most free software/services (bar gnu) are ad supported. "Free to Play" also worth noting, theyre probably were viruses served indirectly. I recognize the gain ad network from comprimised family members pc's. ALWAYS VET YOUR AD NETWORK. its easy to use it as an attack vector for s third party to infect you while visiting a major website where security is expected( like google). I think your giving him the third degree but I do NOT obby you to remove this. Regardless of what happened, it happened, and good on ya for reporting it. You should do due dilligence by checking the WHOIS records from that time. I have my doubts Dave owned or even had a claim to the sharware site as I have seen tons of installed programs, over the years, claiming to be from that site. I imigine they were a third party that just hosted the downloads, such sites were common in that time period. Used to hate dealing with them
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lol watch the video again
2 likesI stand down my comment on shareware online. id still like to point out that its possible that a third party ad company may have done this. watch cartoon online was a safe website but the ads served on it were not. Site was "legitimate" (as legit as a free movie site gets) but people still got infected for visiting without adblock. Webmaster was oblivious at first since he doesnt get ads on his own site, and after that he couldnt find another company that would do bussiness with his. So the sites kinda stuck in limbo. offical solution sign up for no ads, unoffical solution use adblock
1 likeOh FOR FUCK SAKES...
0 likesMemory defragmentation is a real thing, but I'm pretty dure it only makes sense on a process-by-process basis. Physical RAM addresses are calculated by the processor's memory management unit using page tables that are set up by the operating system. Pages are all the same size (usually 4KB on x86-64 processors) and can be moved around arbitrarily by the operating system, so I'm not sure what benefit, if any, you would get from defragmenting physical RAM, which is what the MemTurbo application claimed to do...
0 likesHowever, for individual processes, fragmentation of the virtual memory space can be a concern, especially if you're running 32-bit x86 code, which is restricted to two or three gigabytes of virtual memory (depending on how much is reserved by the operating system kernel). It can also be a concern if the operating system allocates memory to you by giving you one big continuous chunk of virtual memory and you can only adjust it by moving the upper limit of that chunk, which I believe is the traditional way of doing things in Unix-based systems.
Your process can wind up wasting lots of memory if it's allocating and deallocating space within its virtual memory for data structures in such a way that you wind up with lots of little holes in memory and no longer have enough space for a big array, for instance. Or maybe you wind up asking the operating system to reserve more memory for you than you need to.
Anyway, my point is that memory fragmentation/defragmentation is a thing to worry about, but I'm pretty sure it's something that has to be handled by applications themselves.
I am not really an expert on such things (I'm a mathematician, not a computer scientist), so I welcome corrections.
This has huge Davidsfarm vibes who is a paedofile from Lucan, Ontario, who crashed cars in the early 2010s (the “redneck rollercoaster”), became a Youtube partner and betrayed a lot of people.
0 likesWhy just why… I thought David’s Garage was trustworthy with computer stuff. Evaluate everything.
InternetShield is so powerful that it found 2000+ exposed sites without even being connected to the internet. Dave was truly ahead of his time.
1 likeI “ do not recommend this creator” this Dave clown years ago. You could tell by the way he talked how full of himself he is.
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@@Freedom4Ever420 I don't know how I feel about these software pieces. They don't seem too severe.. Maybe because I have seen worse growing up? That might be controversial, but his comments on tw was so lame for me. Crying about someone defending themselves from a home burglary tier comments.. Made me immediately unplug. But I don't have any other qualms with the guy other than his takes on policies that makes our country more 3rd world.
1 likeyou sound insufferable and autistic. cant imagine wasting autism obsessing over closed source microshit software. shouldve picked up linux or something
3 likesI think that lots of people can tell instinctively when something isn't right about someone's personality/demeanor and I remember subbing to his channel at some point, and then after a few videos, I unsubbed just because I didn't like his attitude. So, these findings are 0% surprising lol. People NEVER change. I'm sure that he's just as much of an immoral POS these days as he always was, he just hides it much more methodically, "experience" and all. He's a very self-entitled person and has the classic domineering attitude of a scam artist. The absolute best approach towards people like that is to delete them from your memory. Don't fixate on garbage humans, it's not worth your time and attention.
1 likeGreat to see someone with bigger reach picking up on this story.
2 likesI made a video about this issue (although didn't do such a nice deep dive) but no one cared as my channel is very smol.
edit: I see some of you guys clicking on my profile, thanks a lot! The title of the video was "Dave's Blamage".
If he really is autist, it casts a big shadow on the group of autists and does a disservice (even if every autistic person is different), when he made questionable decisions.
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Yeah he has brown hair too, this is bad for brown haired people
0 likes@@xgui4-studios You are right, but unfortunately this is done too often :(
0 likesnot really , nobody should do generalisation it is bad
5 likesHe thought how John Mcafee was doing similar with his mcafee "anti-virus" and figured why not him too.
0 likes2 vids a month. endermanch finna spoil us
1 likeБащированный инглиш 👍
0 likesА Дэйв просто мале́нько п...здабол ещё с того видео, где приписал себе создание 3д пинбола. Видимо, многое на старости лет в башке напуталось. И этот эпизод скипнулся
Without any comment on anything else presented in this video, I had a shareware version of MemTurbo off a PC magazine CD and for whatever reason my Windows ME shitbox was unstable and hanging/blue-screening, MemTurbo legitimately helped. It was probably a hardware issue in the end, but I personally received genuine value out of the software.
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@@xgui4-studios also more than likely, I ended up going back to Windows 98 SE on it that I borrowed off a mate and things were a lot better. Still though, I think SoftwareOnline was probably started with good intentions, but very clearly lost their way.
0 likesWindows ME was the issue not hardware i think , Windows me is known to be bad but have not use it so i dont know it is true
0 likesI don't think it's quite a "scam" more like a dumb service for dumb people, nobodies grandma was online in 2006
1 likeRelax man, it's the usual stuff. Software that doesn't actually do anything but looks cool, antivirus that looks intimidating and pretends to protect and save your life, from day 1. Software that either installs the adware along itself, displays ads inside itself or is an adware to begin with.
2 likesYou know how many modern reputable corporations did it, right?
Claims as of recent that “MemTurbo did not increase performance”, even though the ad for it in CpuRocket says that you should upgrade to it for “maximum performance”. I guess he admitted to lying in a way. He just won’t say that he did.
1 likeSpywarenuker was a pretty agregious bit of malware back in the day, i've also had problems with Avast, and AVG as well. As AVG is basically Spyware in itself, and it almost impossible to remove on older versions of windows, at least Avast is just infuriating to use, and has gotten worse over time. FreeRAM did the same thing, and was actually pretty useful, and is still available to download, although it's not been updated since 2007.
0 likesScam is used too eagerly. Some products do perform tasks, just weakly like PuPs. The court judgement is justified however for the security software as that was milking the cow too much. Sounds like he didn’t know what to do when he left Microsoft and chose the path of marketing greed. You know, what America is known for!
0 likesTypical microsoft tech suppoat xD
0 likeswho wouldn't scam the elderly? they do nothing good anyway. BASED!
1 likeYou got it all wrong, it was the autism who got him into scamming people with malware.
0 likesThe thing about InternetShield is at its core it could have been a valuable product. Today we have Google Safe Browsing and similar offerings by other vendors, which provide a constantly updated blacklist of dangerous websites for browsers to use. Of course the problem with InternetShield is it uses manipulation as its core sales tactic, with scary large numbers (likely they just enforce a site blacklist somewhere) and taking what could be a very simple product and making it seem complex and important, and thus worthy of being expensive. And as was the case with Registry Cleaner, the "sample" fixes for the trial are so small as to be useless. The trial's only purpose is to scare users into purchasing, not providing them with a usable sample of the software's functionality. I suspect that is the main cause of the court's ire.
2 likesDoesn't use hosts? Might be messing with networking on a lower level then to block packets or something.
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@@SianaGearz You're correct, it simply adds a bunch of wildcards there. Kirb found it for me
0 likesIt used Internet Explorer settings, Zones, Restricted Sites from what i heard.
1 likeA couple things: 4:20 It does make sense to "defragment ram", just not for the same reasons you would defragment a hard drive. When memory is allocated it's pinned in place and as memory is allocated and freed (if you're lucky), it becomes harder and harder to allocate large chunks of memory, which was a problem in those times. Remember back in those days we were rocking mere megabytes of memory. This is one of the reasons why older Windows versions would frequently need to be restarted. Never used MemTurbo so I can't speak for its actual effectiveness, but the idea itself is not silly.
3 likesNetTurbo changes some very well known network settings that could in fact increase your network performance. Whether I'd pay for software to do it is another question (I clearly wasn't in the demographic since I knew how to do this myself), but the technique behind it is sound, if not a bit overstated. Some of those settings were damn near necessary to play online games with any regularity. I'm gonna be real man, so far you're not batting very well.
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I'm glad you agree NetTurbo is a scam. I don't think RAM defragmentation is a job of a utility, and if it's done, it's done by the OS. RAM is optimized for random reads and sequential speed isn't significantly faster, but I would assume it's a rare occurrence when there's a chunk that can't be allocated and it's due to fragmentation. But when that happens, the OS surely autodefragments it.
0 likesYou need to avoid memory fragmentation, but once it has happened, it's generally way too late to do anything about it. As such the application like that can do absolutely nothing about it, as you say, the allocations are pinned in place (in the logical address space of an application, from which the allocations occur), because the memory can be referred to by pointers and pointer-offsets which are generally impossible to enumerate and fix up; and when they are possible to enumerate, it's very performance prohibitive.
0 likesWhat the application really does by all reason is just allocate and dirty to force everything into swap. Ascribing mechanisms and properties to it that it doesn't provide helped him charge higher price for it.
There are some examples of memory defragmenting, but it must be foreseen from ground up. Microsoft Basic on 8-bit computers defragments its memory. It was spectacularly slow, but you didn't expect much of a home computer at a price comparable to a good pocket calculator, compromises had to be made.
@@sirflimflam I agree, same for Registry app - if you know programming, then you know why it showed up those results on clean sys.
0 likesAuthor should learn more and dig deeper then just scraping the surface. I highly doubt author's programming knowledge.
im unsubbing from you and dave
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Back in the Windows XP days and earlier "win rot" was a real problem. I remember having to reinstall XP every 6 months or so since it would slow down just through normal usage. Vista/7 largely solved this problem, at least for me. But until then there were definitely a lot of tools claiming to be able to help with this problem without the need for a full OS reinstall. Some apps did indeed leave behind cruft in the registry. It was more than just folders, you'd have things like broken links to DLL files that had been removed when the application was uninstalled, if the app did not properly clean itself up. In theory Windows was spending some time trying to load these files for their original purpose which could result in performance degradation over time. Not really sure what factor this played into win rot if at all. And the weird thing to me is, Dave being an ex-MS employee who worked on Windows would have been the perfect guy to develop products for this space that actually legitimately helped.
0 likesAlso 42 is a low number for these types of tools IIRC. So I wouldn't hold that against them. Though they are claiming "Empty key" is a problem (and in fact if you remove all of those I am betting that number goes down a bit) which MS likely does not consider it to be and I doubt they have a performance impact. However some of the other messages like broken file associations do have a fair chance of being legitimate, I feel, though I seriously doubt this software fixing them would noticeably improve Windows performance.
Would be interesting to actually see a commercial/cracked version of the software run on a mature system that has had lots of third-party software added/removed (to the tune of thousands of issues detected) to see if it actually makes any sort of performance impact. I feel running it on a new OS image isn't really that interesting.
That said the popups on restart and started are REALLY scammy feeling. To a lesser degree is the little warning dialog it opened when you first ran it (warning dialogs are for informing the user of problems, not conveying general information about a product). And of course the primary purpose of the trial is not as an actual sample of the software functionality, but to pressure the user into purchasing. Alone, the trial has no practical use in and of itself.
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I did not reinstall XP, 2000 or 98 every 6 months, absolutely not, i didn't even reinstall them with major hardware upgrades. I have seen what these types of utilities do, and i'd say on the whole they contributed to windows rot, because all sorts of random things would break leading to reduced functionality and performance. I have had to do a lot more maintenance on my father's PC and he used these software extensively, the psychological manipulation by these tools is too great. And then he keeps saying "i never had issues with it", yeah well it's not him fixing the damage but me, and it's often noticed weeks later, the mystery issues must have come from something. Attempts at aggressive cleanup were prone to messing up the component refcount, later messing up the uninstallers and causing them to not do their job properly.
0 likesI had some tricks like deleting root PCI device and manually manipulating preload drivers in the registery when i needed to move the system to an entirely different CPU; also Windows 98 was very fragile with regard to DMA mode in the IDE driver, it would sometimes disappear from random faults and would need to be re-enabled manually, and without DMA the performance would be quite painful. The windows built-in disk cleanup utility was good and harmless. Defragmentation was a must, and some of these utilities were better than others.
Broken DLL (actually COM/OLE) references they all don't really matter, Windows won't try to parse the corresponding registry keys unless an application requests the DLL, at which point, does it even matter, the application is broken or gone, right. It's purely manipulation by the tools to make it feel like they did something.
MemTurbo could be one of those apps that eats up all your RAM to pressure Windows and applications into freeing RAM assigned to cache. So then it can technically claim it does free up RAM. The problem is this RAM was being used for the useful purpose of cache, and is now being used for nothing at all, which is useless. And if the cache's RAM was needed for some other purpose, it would have been freed anyway. So generally such tools are useless and counterproductive since the system is likely to run slower while it rebuilds the cache. Windows largely solved the problem of these apps by making "Free RAM" numbers less prominent in Task Manager in favor of "Available RAM" which counts both free RAM and RAM being used by Windows for cache.
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The description is of course misleading, it's guaranteed to be a memory eater forcing swap.
0 likesThough such a utility would still have had tangible usefulness. Because when it consumes RAM, it would just dirty each page, generating no disk loads and only disk writes, and the only writes would be to a swap file which would ideally be near-contiguous, in reality it often wasn't but better than fully random.
When you load a memory hungry application which loads a lot from disk, then you have the problem that the system needs to simultaneously evict things to swap, and load things in, which causes the hard disk to seek between fully unrelated areas with reads and writes fighting against each other, which takes a lot longer and feels much less pleasant. You're not at all spending most of the time on real data transfers but waiting for head movement. Particularly bad in the era before command queueing and dynamic head path planning.
Of course the flip side is that when things need to get swapped in again, it's worse than before, but if you knew what the utility is doing, this may well be a compromise you're willing to take. Then again, if you did, should you have been willing to pay $30 for it, or rather closer to $5? I think unsubstantiated claims made it a chunk of money.
I thought it obvious the dude is dodgy af. And I really dislike boasters. A life of lies; but to the contrary, it's interesting that autistic people are known for their blunt honesty. I wonder if he has a diagnosis, wouldn't be the first imposter. But given these particular issues of concern that you raise were 18 years ago, should we be holding him accountable all these years later? I don't know the answer, but it does speak to his character.
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Every person on the spectrum is unique in their behavior, so please don’t make assumptions about us.
1 likeThat being said, autism or not, he should be criticized and shunned for trying to downplay a literal scam operation he ran. Actions like that speak more about his character than words.
btw brothersoft is also another suspicous company, known for pushing sketchy software back then (and even today). So... that's another yikes.
2 likesCant fucking trust anyone sick of this shit
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Trust yourself are better than trudt someone
1 likeHe once said that pirating software was hypocrisy, I actually pirated MemTurbo, and finding out it was made by davepl felt bad, but now feels good again
2 likesbtw if you look closely at registry cleaner’s eula, you’ll see that it is developed by a company called SysTweak, Inc. that company not only still exists but also still develops the same bloody program under the name “regclean pro”
0 likesI had it right with computes all along; - they are best used either offline or on a small network at most, as music machines... - any decent computer can emulate many different classic synths...
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Software today insists on calling home to ensure that you really really bought it x.x
0 likesPlease google "how to avoid ram fragmentation". It is very real thing and can cause serious issues.
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As an application developer who worked on several applications extremely prone to RAM fragmentation, it is indeed real, but this RAM cleaner application can do absolutely nothing about it.
0 likesIt became a massive problem eventually, which is why google's tcmalloc exists. Firefox also shipped a fragmentation avoiding allocator of its own, based on BSD's jemalloc, on Windows 32-bit.
the "secrets of the autistic millionaire" is that you too can be rich if you are evil!
3 likesit's ironic, because autistic people tend to have a stronger moral compass, which is why we're poorer
I would not claim every piece of software Dave has been involved with at SoftwareOnline is a scam, but like he himself worded in that video/series titled: "Blame Me"–he is to blame for the sketchiness of those programs
1 likeSo he went to Microsoft, made his bucks.
2 likesStarted a scam company, became a millionaire and got enough money to retire earlier.
Got sued but not for enough to run his finances.
Lived fine ever after and now scams people on YouTube by embellishing his work at Microsoft and pretending nothing bad was ever done.
The poor man is autistic. Love your stuff enderman but be more kind to the neurodivergent. You lost a sub.
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what ??? that not related what so ever....
0 likesHow is scamming related to neurodivergent? HOW!?
2 likes@@EverDodd What does running a scam have to do with being autistic? Are you implying that he didn't know what he was doing was wrong?
2 likesI'm autistic & it's not an excuse to scam people
4 likesWhat does autism have to do with what he did in 2005?
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3 likesI would like to add that ram fragmentation is a real thing but ppl confuse it with hdd defrag, ram de-fragmentation is achieved thru a few means like making structs in your program follow natural alignment so the compiler dose not add padding because
0 likesstruct{
int a;
char b;
int c;
}; is going to be not 9 bytes as 4 + 4 + 1 but 12 bytes because there will be 3 bytes of unused space put after the "char b" by the compiler to preserve alignment,
There is also defrag inside memory allocators (malloc) witch was way more of an issue with old 32 bit computers that did not have such powerful mmu's that could just unbind entire pages of ram, large page support and also memory allocation algorithms not being soo fleshed out back then (the default vcrt malloc implementation is still not great to this day witch is why i use stuff like mimalloc) and you can even find ram fragmentation problems on gpu's as with api's like vulkan and dx12 you have to provide a vram allocator, look up on google there is a popular vulkan allocator called vma that has a html 5 generator for the memory map to check for fragmentation issues
So you’re telling me the guy that made the windows task manager also scammed people
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yeah sadly
0 likesi mean hes an a*tist tho
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Are you seriously implying that all autistic people are scammers? The fuck?
5 likesNetTurbo would probably have been a legit tool. These days (I believe since Vista) Windows automatically grabs the correct values but on XP I have to use a similar program (And now a .reg since I exported the values) to get the most out of my network adapter.
0 likesAnd this mf had the audacity to sell a book on how he became millionaire as an autistic person. Miserable human
2 likesAH HELL NAH WHY YOU HATIN ON PLUMBERS?????? THEY FIX MY DRAINS AND SHIT
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