I don't think it's scam. You can say it's greedy and annoying. Softwares you mentioned in the video according to how it's implemented they're not scam. For example the MemTurbo. Defragmentation isn't useless for RAM. Instead it's everywhere nowdays. Linux even have this built into the kernal. And it's technology keep improving. You can see the significant improvement of memory defragmentation(they don't call it defragmentation though) every 1 or 2 year from Android or any other operating system.<br>And NetTurbo is same. According what he says about how it work in the website. It's basically tuning the tcp window parameters etc.. in Windows. And this is the problem that exists in modern Windows. With the default tcp window parameter in Windows. I can only get 10Mbps at long distance speed test have high packet loss and latency(1000km+). After tuning TCP window myself. I can get over 150Mbps on 300Mbps fiber.

I don't think it's scam. You can say it's greedy and annoying. Softwares you mentioned in the video according to how it's implemented they're not scam. For example the MemTurbo. Defragmentation isn't useless for RAM. Instead it's everywhere nowdays. Linux even have this built into the kernal. And it's technology keep improving. You can see the significant improvement of memory defragmentation(they don't call it defragmentation though) every 1 or 2 year from Android or any other operating system.
And NetTurbo is same. According what he says about how it work in the website. It's basically tuning the tcp window parameters etc.. in Windows. And this is the problem that exists in modern Windows. With the default tcp window parameter in Windows. I can only get 10Mbps at long distance speed test have high packet loss and latency(1000km+). After tuning TCP window myself. I can get over 150Mbps on 300Mbps fiber.

He still got taken to the cleaners over it


yoooo endermanch video after so long!! instant liked


this is old news and judging again today because we are rediscovering this is not just, but you do you I guess. <b>sips tea</b>

this is old news and judging again today because we are rediscovering this is not just, but you do you I guess. *sips tea*


By now the only trustworthy channel is you bro😢

until he gets a million subs. everyone seems to lose their mind at that point.

@@CrystalStarscapeI hope I don't! Mark my words 😀


classic sign of someone being chronically online: dragging up shit from 20 years ago <b>yawn</b>

classic sign of someone being chronically online: dragging up shit from 20 years ago *yawn*


Now expose the weird guy that claims he created iTunes and was better than Jobs (no joke, it's an Apple Ex-Employee that makes dumb takes online, hope you find something like this lol), cool video, and thanks for letting us now the scammy background of Dave, never trust your heroes they said.


I'm still watching, but I'm pretty sure your wrong or rather mistaken., especially recarding any malicious or bad intent on the vendors part and whether related to DP at all? .  Will comment further later.

Why was he convicted by the US government then and fined half a million? Are you still “pretty sure”?

Looks like he does cover some of it, and his perspective on it, in the book.  Still tbc if anything was deliberately malicious or directly under his control.


Crazy to think that someone can “claim” all these so called scams without actually reviewing the court documents, everyone just jumps on the bandwagon.
Clickbait goes crazy!
Just remember anything can look bad at first glance everyone should just do their own research to get the actual truth.


I bet Dave doesn't even watch skibidi toilet 😔😔


modern task manager was not created by him


who's next? enderman exposed by enderman?


THIS IS DEPRESSING I LOVE THIS GUY 😭😭😭😭😭😭


Digging up someones past in an effort to smear him sounds like judgement to me.

If he has changed and is no longer partaking in such activities, is he not entitled to leave the past in the past?

Why is it important that people know this, if it's not to simply smear him today for his past actions you have a problem with, then what is your intent?

Genuinely curious - not excusing his past but if this has already been litigated and court orders executed, it seems like this isn't enough for you? You have to take matters into your own hands to get adequate justice so to speak?

That sounds like you ARE wanting to be a judge in the court of public opinion no?

what hes doing isnt leaving the past in the past and moving on, but rather hiding the past. i took this video more as a message for him to come clean about this instead of dodging questions and misrepresenting reality (like in his book)

@@emre_ez how exactly is he hiding it? Because he doesn't wear a t-shirt with it printed on it or something?

There are 2 sides to every story but even if he is actively hiding his past, is he not entitled to since he has already been punished by ruling in a court?

Why does it upset you that someone may not be proud of their past and not talk or discuss it out of shame.

I wasn't aware of this before watching this video, i've watched and commented on many of Dave's videos so i like his content but i wouldn't call myself a fan. Does this change my opinion on him? Yeah a little but not significantly enough that i'll refuse to watch his content or feel deceived by him.

Certainly doesn't make me think more highly of his character, but i'm left scratching my head at the overly strong reactions as if ppp just found out Dave had cheated on them or something.

The tone and nature of this video is designed to do just that though, it gives more a "grab your pitchforks lets get him" vibes than "heres a little dirty secret about Dave he doesn't want you to know".

Haters gotta hate ig 🤷

@@sirtra i am no hater. if an intresting piece of content of his showed up at my home page i would watch it. What i figured from watching this video is that in his book, he talks about this in a very diffrent way, misrepresenting what he did. I didnt read that book. Im just talking from the snippets of it shown in the video<br>Edit: also, yeah he can be ashamed of his past, he should be. but he shouldnt go "we never scammed" (as shown in the video" but rather "We did that yes and im not proud of it i apoligize" etc

@@sirtra i am no hater. if an intresting piece of content of his showed up at my home page i would watch it. What i figured from watching this video is that in his book, he talks about this in a very diffrent way, misrepresenting what he did. I didnt read that book. Im just talking from the snippets of it shown in the video
Edit: also, yeah he can be ashamed of his past, he should be. but he shouldnt go "we never scammed" (as shown in the video" but rather "We did that yes and im not proud of it i apoligize" etc

@@emre_ez i haven't read the book either but i think it's a bit judgemental to take a stance that he needs to apologize for something that doesn't involve you and based off snippets shown in this video (ie one side of the story from someone not directly involved)

It's the exact pitchfork behavior this video seems to be aiming for, which by all means you're entitled to do, it just seems like a whole lot of wasted energy over events from 20 years ago.

I'm of the opinion that ppl can and do change for the better (and sometimes worse) and airing out someones dirty laundry is in poor taste when it's already been through the courts and they've "done their time" or paid the price of past mistakes so to speak.

Each to their own though ✌


I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE MAN ON YOUTUBE I COULD TRUST BUT NO


every business is a scam. who isn't a scammer. pretty normal


I wonder what Louis Rossman and GN will make of this.

Nothing... They don't chase dug up drama.


😭  i had this happen to me twice this week

One time my teacher went to AirPlay and the code was 6666. The whole class was screaming. It was so funny.


Hey Enderman i was wondering if I could give you a challenge you can answer no or yes but basically get a new cheap pc and then modify the bios taskmgr and cmd and run cmd and taskmgr on the bios menu
That’s the challenge
Ok


This is honestly a bit of a witch hunt, if you consider the fact that Dave is Autistic and an ex Windows dev he likely 100% believed these utilities were fixing things he saw as problems. Did they provide any actual benefit to the end user, probably not but to describe them as malware is dishonest.

Mate, the US government convicted him and he had to pay out half a million in fines!  He absolutely is a scammer. <br>And you can’t blame autism for putting those prompts at start up and shutdown

Mate, the US government convicted him and he had to pay out half a million in fines!  He absolutely is a scammer.
And you can’t blame autism for putting those prompts at start up and shutdown


TCP is protocol btw. It has protocol in it's name lmao.

He never said TCP is not a protocol, he said that TCP/IP is not a protocol

@@somerandomcapybara you are even worse than him. Stop nitpicking. This whole video is also just a scam if we look at it from his perspective. Yes he sold placeboware, so what?

@@pidojaspdpaidipashdisao572
1.he also sold scareware and rogues, it's literally the reason he got sued
2.me correcting you doesn't mean I'm more horrible than a former scammer, I may be nitpicky, but atleast it's far better than scamming vulnerable people

@@pidojaspdpaidipashdisao572 TCP/IP is a protocol *stack*, it's a different thing. and who is nitpicking if you literally commented something nitpicky?


More like Dave Bummer, but really I dont care and still like him. He is no worse than someone making drama/clickbait youtube vids, or all of us here watching.

what's worse: a big scammer or just a youtuber with clickbait vids?


Listen bro, and Broski’s, to take an angle here. I have to tell you this is just the way the Internet was during the 90s.

 Dave is very transparent about how everything was new, was broken, or protection needed to exist, so we can’t blame our forefathers for pushing the limits in the name of science/experimentation/it’s just the way it was…

This video is interesting, I feel informed, but slow your role for real, take a deep breath and tell yourself you wouldn’t have done the same thing in the wild west of software 30 years ago, you know you would have ;-) (

(if you were smart enough).

Smart enough to capitalize off of vulnerable people? I'm sorry, I'd rather make something of value before selling it. There was plenty of wiggle room back then to make something great too, instead of scamming people.


What is there really to gain by dragging people through the mud? I really hate this kind of videos right or wrong because its a poo flinging match

To add on, the court hearing he admited to wrongdoing and paid his dues. Doesn't make him clean but I don't think he needs to come out now and do anything with it.

well he doesn't say "runner of a scam website" in his intro, he hid it and completely underplayed the lawsuit online


Yikes, Ender. It's in the past. Everyone has skeletons in their closet, NOBODY is squeaky clean. There's a reason every big YouTuber out there is being exposed for some kind of scandal or another. I wonder what sort of fucked up shit YOU'VE done in your time 👀 maybe an investigation into you is warranted?

Look, it's a guaranteed given that if you're interesting enough to make good content on YouTube, you're interesting enough to have done questionable or even downright morally bankrupt shit in your past. Let's all stop pretending like this is some big bad revelation 🙄

My past is 20 years, I haven't royally fucked up like that guy. I get what you're saying, but research me all you want. I haven't done anything vile like that. I honestly feel like different people draw a line in a different spot, but this surely crosses the line for me and recontextualizes Dave's work.

wdym nobody is squeaky clean? even registered pedos past should be forgotten? enderman at least wasnt trying to extract money from tech illiterate people in predatory ways - that is the issue

@@Endermanchso you were almost 3 years old when Dave was sued?  Seems like you have no context for most of your ‘documentary’.  You poor pathetic young man.


I used to really like your stuff man, how crazy for clout do you have to be to dig into 20 year old resolved bullshit?

You're wrong thinking I did this for clout. This video isn't even doing well compared to what I could have produced instead of embarking on this 2-day journey.

Okay maybe not for clout, but a selfish personal satisfaction. Like who tf even cares. I doubt the original victims even remember.

The virtue-signaling too. Like man, if you really care, keep talking about current software scams, where people are ACTIVELY getting damaged. <br>Not this ancient lore about some retired engineer.

The virtue-signaling too. Like man, if you really care, keep talking about current software scams, where people are ACTIVELY getting damaged.
Not this ancient lore about some retired engineer.

Did you just expect this to never be mentioned?

@@papajohnscookie I expected nobody to give a fuck

@@nodrognameerfwow! you're so brave and an independent thinker! you sure showed me, repeating [youtuber opinion] to get them internet points!

@@Endermanch you're in it for the clout don't lie you zoomer khunt. Dave paid for his crimes 20 years ago. He doesn't owe any of you an apology or explanation you delusional fcks

@@dumbfloppa you should follow your own advice.

@@hrr597 He only payed, he didn't have any prision time. Cry harder.

@@Endermanch These morons think journalism is cancel culture. You dont need these trump supporters as fans


this is the 1000th comment will i get a like by enderman??


I guess autism and intellect make strange bedfellows........


“Tool to Scan” is only one letter away from “Tool to Scam”


So you were almost 3 years old when Dave was sued?  Seems like you have no context for most of your ‘documentary’.  You poor pathetic young man.

wait is that a dave plummer on your video with like 60 views? lol

I do live kids @@eobardthawnemcoc  I have 3 children and 2 of them are older than Endermanch.


I remember using MemTurbo with Windows 95 back in the day and actually finding it surprisingly useful - it's worth remembering that Win9x was an actual trash fire and would typically suffer significant stability- and performance degradation over time, especially after running particularly hefty pieces of software such as games. It wasn't all that uncommon to just have to reboot the system every so many hours during heavy use just to free up system resources that Windows itself just wasn't all that willing to release on its own. In that regard at least MemTurbo did help cut down on the reboots - at least on relatively low memory systems.

Of course, MemTurbo also instantly became redundant the moment Microsoft swapped the main Windows branch from Win9x to WinNT with 2000/XP, since NT was actually capable of reliably managing system resources where 9x just... wasn't. I recall the Win9x Task Manager was similarly rather unreliable at times when it came to shutting down programs that had stopped working, to the point where I used to use this other piece of third party software - WinKill, I believe? with the sole purpose of just sitting in systray and providing a reliable way of forcibly shutting down hung processes that Win9x itself just wasn't willing or able to close down for whatever reason.

It was kind of just what it was like running Windows back then - Win9x just wasn't either particularly reliable or stable, and bluescreens used to be far, FAR more common - it wasn't unheard of to end up seeing them on a weekly, or even daily, basis in some cases. Of course, none of this was helped by how much of a transitionary period this all took place during, either - you had the steady transition from the old ISA bus to the newer PCI one, and while PCI Plug and Play was generally pretty reliable, ISA Plug and Play was... less so - there's a reason "Plug and Pray" became a turn of phrase. There was also the whole 3D hardware accelerator revolution effectively starting with the 3Dfx Voodoo cards, moving on to the TNT2 and then eventually having programmable shaders introduced with the GeForce 3, along with all the changes to both OpenGL and DirectX happening during that while, and you even had the shift from using IPX/SPX to TCP/IP as the dominant protocol stack for things like LAN parties and the like. I distinctly recall the original Half-Life having an issue with IPX where it'd randomly disconnect you with a message saying "error: no error"

The thing about MemTurbo is that it was very much a product of that particular era and doesn't really make much sense outside of it - it exists purely because of how broken Windows 95/98/Me actually was, and the moment you swap to a version of Windows that's actually capable of managing its own memory with even the slightest degree of competency, MemTurbo instantly becomes largely and entirely useless.


5:24 TCP/IP “Transmission Control PROTOCOL/Internet PROTOCOL”. What part of that is lost on you? Ah yes, everything. Because you don’t exist on a level capable of explaining anything remotely technical.
How do you wake up everyday knowing you exist as a YouTube parasite?

You're a parasite. TCP is a protocol. IP is a protocol. TCP/IP is a stack.

@@Endermanch No you… since I’m forced to operate at this level now 🙄. You are a parasite. I watched your whole video and came to the conclusion that your whole schtick is to generate outrage for clicks. Let’s take your registry cleaner segment. It quite clearly outputs the registry path, the key type and the issue. But you merrily skip over verifying the results to see if it actually is factual. You’re being disingenuous on purpose and just writing it off. You stalled when the post-clean scan came back with 22 results showing the scan actually did what it was advertised to do and then swiftly moved along. And then act amazed that a registry key could be blank from RTM. Your content is low effort, caters to the most basic of viewer (picture the dented head meme with drool on the lips). You’re lazy (finding the information in the court documents) and shows a level or preparedness akin to someone in a coma.
But hey, since you can make these opinions about someone you don’t know, so can I. I mean, we both came to the same conclusion over stuff found on the internet right? Right? Of course I’m right. Not even questionable.
And no, that’s not what a stack is. But stay dumb. Couldn’t have you evolving otherwise you’re have to put more effort into shitting out another video.

@@Endermanch Not only are you a parasite. You’re the very scam you cry about in your widdle video. Lying about what you found. Obfuscating information. Making assertions without evidence. You ARE the lowest form of YouTube content. Low effort, rage bait and convinced of your own intelligence. Go ahead, delete this comment as well. Just proves my point further.<br>Ps, TCP/IP is still a protocol no matter how much you want to feel you’re right.

@@Endermanch Not only are you a parasite. You’re the very scam you cry about in your widdle video. Lying about what you found. Obfuscating information. Making assertions without evidence. You ARE the lowest form of YouTube content. Low effort, rage bait and convinced of your own intelligence. Go ahead, delete this comment as well. Just proves my point further.
Ps, TCP/IP is still a protocol no matter how much you want to feel you’re right.

@@Endermanch Keep deleting my comments like the pussy you are.


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how god damn stupid you sound.. this guy was ahead of the curve they all installed broswer helpers or some sort of ad something.
you cant even use the internet today with out a ad some where
start of a video middle end
load a website and 30 ads will load even before the content that you want does
try facebook ADS
insta ADS
google ADS
google email  or any online email ADS
you can not escape the ads where ever you go
back in the days you need them mem doublers and what not to fake more ram then you had
some times it was the only way to get some software to work

i cant remember the name of the site but they use to have broswers that would pay you to browse the web and look at ads
i want to say it was hotwire

HEY NO ONE WILL EVER NEED MORE THEN 640K

what ever the line was


4:50 Um, defragmenting memory isn't about speed. 🤦 Imagine you have 10mb of unused RAM on a 16mb system and want to allocate 2mb, but all of the free space is broken up into blocks that are less than 2mb. You can't allocate it (at least not without a lot of hassle). Defragmenting the memory would reorder the allocated blocks to create larger CONTIGUOUS blocks of free space. (Now whether a program COULD do such a thing is a different matter, but those were different times, so it might. 🤷)

4:57 No, I absolutely do understand that "just-booted feeling", it makes sense. As you use the system and programs allocate and free memory, it gets more and more fragmented, which creates more overhead to keep things working rather than throw misleading and specious "out of memory" errors. Most people wouldn't understand why they're getting that message when it shows that they have plenty of free space.

5:07 Any time you see "up to", just assume that's the contrived gain in a fake, manufactured-for-best-results test scenario and you'll never get anywhere close to the boasted results.

5:24 You do realize that marketing copy is not written for techies, it's written for generic customers, right? 🤨 … 5:35 Never mind. 🤦

5:45 Meh, everybody tweaked registry settings for the networking settings back then.

6:42 Does ClipMate still exist? 🤔 ClipMate 4.5.2. 😀

6:40 Freeing RAM is NOT what TurboMem did (or at least purported to do). Freeing memory is NOT a problem, freeing CONTIGUOUS blocks of memory is. 🙄

de fragmenting memory has not been an issue for 40 years. there is no "continuous memory" anymore, the OS (or hardware nowadays) just tricks the program into believing it is continuous.


I think it has been pretty aparent that his main goal with his youtube channel has always been to make money. And he has autism. Some people with autism also have some anti-social personality traits.

I used to have a friend who was an autist. He liked to go into online games, pretend to be a girl and get gifts from boys. He also lied all the time. He wasn’t really a bad person, he just did not have any morals. Im not saying all people on the spectrum are like this, but some are.

He went on to work as cobol programmer at a bank. Im worried.

I am autistic, have many other autistic friends and we all have morals, it's just that some people are assholes that need to be shunned from society.


Registery Cleaners were common in the days, even renominated suites like Norton SystemWorks would offer something like that. <br>Adware, yeah, the pest of the times, but today.... ads are included in your Operating System if you're running WIndows. Oh, how times have changed.

Registery Cleaners were common in the days, even renominated suites like Norton SystemWorks would offer something like that.
Adware, yeah, the pest of the times, but today.... ads are included in your Operating System if you're running WIndows. Oh, how times have changed.


there could be something to the memory recovery and whatnot, i dont know enough about how windows allocates ram to be sure but it could have been kernel induced issues not the physical ram? and there might be rationale behind tuning some of the scheduler parameters but i dont even know if you could do that on the old nt kernel? if dave could show how this works that'd help. the software and website were still as scammy as anything from that era but i guess its worth noting that this was literally how tech was sold back then. famously the guy from mcafee gave a talk at mit (i think it was) talking about how to recover from failure and explained how they knew their product was sh-t and didnt work and some free options were better but they still sold the hell out of it and made a fortune. that was literally the name of the game for big players and small. i still think its reprehensible *but it was normalized a lot*, everything said "buy now or die!" for a while back then much like youtubers using clickbait titles and misleading thumbnails and the rest of it. gross but i think it deserves a little asterisk.

where i get really annoyed with dave's software is when i get a call from a factory who cant produce anything because their ancient industrial control pc with xp sp1 has a clicking drive. i swap the drive, it refuses to admit its licensed because the drive serial number changed, i cant upgrade to the last service pack that disables activation because that breaks their io card drivers, and im back to bypassing wga by hand again like its the fking 2000s. last time i literally punched my hand so hard my wristwatch exploded into pieces. for nearly my entire life the only people windows activation has ever stopped from using windows are the paying fking customers. wtf is wrong with people? do they actually believe wga did something meaningful to stop piracy? or was it all a psyop to calm spooked shareholders and everyone knew it was stupid but did it anyway for the anti-piracy buzzword in the monday meeting? well thanks to that i ended up going through a literal tornado at my hotel while spending 3 days fking with this. yeah fun times. i coulda fkin died while dealing with the dying gasps of microsoft's anti-piracy heyday. people didnt get to go to work and do their job and get paid. american products got delayed and a bunch of money was spent for nothing, i cant imagine how we're being beat by china though, right? while scamware is bad, that lot has done much worse and i dunno if adware qualifies him to stand out among his peers. look up the 'windows for warships project' (no really its real) for some real facepalmage.

there could be something to the memory recovery and whatnot, i dont know enough about how windows allocates ram to be sure but it could have been kernel induced issues not the physical ram? and there might be rationale behind tuning some of the scheduler parameters but i dont even know if you could do that on the old nt kernel? if dave could show how this works that'd help. the software and website were still as scammy as anything from that era but i guess its worth noting that this was literally how tech was sold back then. famously the guy from mcafee gave a talk at mit (i think it was) talking about how to recover from failure and explained how they knew their product was sh-t and didnt work and some free options were better but they still sold the hell out of it and made a fortune. that was literally the name of the game for big players and small. i still think its reprehensible *but it was normalized a lot*, everything said "buy now or die!" for a while back then much like youtubers using clickbait titles and misleading thumbnails and the rest of it. gross but i think it deserves a little asterisk.

where i get really annoyed with dave's software is when i get a call from a factory who cant produce anything because their ancient industrial control pc with xp sp1 has a clicking drive. i swap the drive, it refuses to admit its licensed because the drive serial number changed, i cant upgrade to the last service pack that disables activation because that breaks their io card drivers, and im back to bypassing wga by hand again like its the fking 2000s. last time i literally punched my hand so hard my wristwatch exploded into pieces. for nearly my entire life the only people windows activation has ever stopped from using windows are the paying fking customers. wtf is wrong with people? do they actually believe wga did something meaningful to stop piracy? or was it all a psyop to calm spooked shareholders and everyone *knew* it was stupid but did it anyway for the anti-piracy buzzword in the monday meeting? well thanks to that i ended up going through a literal tornado at my hotel while spending 3 days fking with this. yeah fun times. i coulda fkin died while dealing with the dying gasps of microsoft's anti-piracy heyday. people didnt get to go to work and do their job and get paid. american products got delayed and a bunch of money was spent for nothing, i cant imagine how we're being beat by china though, right? while scamware is bad, that lot has done much worse and i dunno if adware qualifies him to stand out among his peers. look up the 'windows for warships project' (no really its real) for some real facepalmage.


It's incredible how Microsoft employees are almost universally lying, corporate swine, no matter how long ago they worked at the company


I think it'd be cool if some reverse engineering work was done (and showcased) on InternetShield to see if it actually does anything


...Honestly anyone stupid enough to fall for any of those probably shouldn't be on the internet in the first place.


I think your being a tad critical. Im still waiting to hear the scam. As someone who grew up writing basic programs, shareware, and uninfecting family members pc's I personally think it sits between tame and actually useful. I bet you half that software was for win9x. Several  tools are unnecesary for xp but would make a HUGE diference in win 98. Things like the registry and how the DOS kernal cleared virtual memory was an actual issue that affected long term stability. Aloso had one of the worst out of the box experiences with tcp/ip. basically broken, took a year of tweakng to get it to reach google from my network. as far as ads, I still consider that free. And so does the industry, most free software/services (bar gnu) are ad supported. "Free to Play" also worth noting, theyre probably were viruses served indirectly. I recognize the gain ad network from comprimised family members pc's. ALWAYS VET YOUR AD NETWORK. its easy to use it as an attack vector for s third party to infect you while visiting a major website where security is expected( like google). I think your giving him the third degree but I do NOT obby you to remove this. Regardless of what happened, it happened, and good on ya for reporting it. You should do due dilligence by checking the WHOIS records from that time. I have my doubts Dave owned or even had a claim to the sharware site as I have seen tons of installed programs, over the years, claiming to be from that site. I imigine they were a third party that just hosted the downloads, such sites were common in that time period. Used to hate dealing with them

I stand down my comment on shareware online. id still like to point out that its possible that a third party ad company may have done this. watch cartoon online was a safe website but the ads served on it were not. Site was "legitimate" (as legit as a free movie site gets) but people still got infected for visiting without adblock. Webmaster was oblivious at first since he doesnt get ads on his own site, and after that he couldnt find another company that would do bussiness with his. So the sites kinda stuck  in limbo. offical solution sign up for no ads, unoffical solution use adblock


Memory defragmentation is a real thing, but I'm pretty dure it only makes sense on a process-by-process basis.  Physical RAM addresses are calculated by the processor's memory management unit using page tables that are set up by the operating system.  Pages are all the same size (usually 4KB on x86-64 processors) and can be moved around arbitrarily by the operating system, so I'm not sure what benefit, if any, you would get from defragmenting physical RAM, which is what the MemTurbo application claimed to do...

However, for individual processes, fragmentation of the virtual memory space can be a concern, especially if you're running 32-bit x86 code, which is restricted to two or three gigabytes of virtual memory (depending on how much is reserved by the operating system kernel).  It can also be a concern if the operating system allocates memory to you by giving you one big continuous chunk of virtual memory and you can only adjust it by moving the upper limit of that chunk, which I believe is the traditional way of doing things in Unix-based systems.

Your process can wind up wasting lots of memory if it's allocating and deallocating space within its virtual memory for data structures in such a way that you wind up with lots of little holes in memory and no longer have enough space for a big array, for instance.  Or maybe you wind up asking the operating system to reserve more memory for you than you need to.

Anyway, my point is that memory fragmentation/defragmentation is a thing to worry about, but I'm pretty sure it's something that has to be handled by applications themselves.

I am not really an expert on such things (I'm a mathematician, not a computer scientist), so I welcome corrections.

Memory defragmentation is a real thing, but I'm pretty dure it only makes sense on a process-by-process basis.  Physical RAM addresses are calculated by the processor's memory management unit using page tables that are set up by the operating system.  Pages are all the same size (usually 4KB on x86-64 processors) and can be moved around arbitrarily by the operating system, so I'm not sure what benefit, if any, you would get from defragmenting physical RAM, which is what the MemTurbo application claimed to do...

However, for individual processes, fragmentation of the virtual memory space *can* be a concern, especially if you're running 32-bit x86 code, which is restricted to two or three gigabytes of virtual memory (depending on how much is reserved by the operating system kernel).  It can also be a concern if the operating system allocates memory to you by giving you one big continuous chunk of virtual memory and you can only adjust it by moving the upper limit of that chunk, which I believe is the traditional way of doing things in Unix-based systems.

Your process can wind up wasting lots of memory if it's allocating and deallocating space within its virtual memory for data structures in such a way that you wind up with lots of little holes in memory and no longer have enough space for a big array, for instance.  Or maybe you wind up asking the operating system to reserve more memory for you than you need to.

Anyway, my point is that memory fragmentation/defragmentation *is* a thing to worry about, but I'm pretty sure it's something that has to be handled by applications themselves.

I am not really an expert on such things (I'm a mathematician, not a computer scientist), so I welcome corrections.


This has huge Davidsfarm vibes who is a paedofile from Lucan, Ontario, who crashed cars in the early 2010s (the “redneck rollercoaster”), became a Youtube partner and betrayed a lot of people.

Why just why… I thought David’s Garage was trustworthy with computer stuff. Evaluate everything.


InternetShield is so powerful that it found 2000+ exposed sites without even being connected to the internet. Dave was truly ahead of his time.


I “ do not recommend this creator” this Dave clown years ago.  You could tell by the way he talked how full of himself he is.

@@Freedom4Ever420 I don't know how I feel about these software pieces. They don't seem too severe.. Maybe because I have seen worse growing up? That might be controversial, but his comments on tw was so lame for me. Crying about someone defending themselves from a home burglary tier comments.. Made me immediately unplug. But I don't have any other qualms with the guy other than his takes on policies that makes our country more 3rd world.


you sound insufferable and autistic. cant imagine wasting autism obsessing over closed source microshit software. shouldve picked up linux or something


I think that lots of people can tell instinctively when something isn't right about someone's personality/demeanor and I remember subbing to his channel at some point, and then after a few videos, I unsubbed just because I didn't like his attitude. So, these findings are 0% surprising lol. People NEVER change. I'm sure that he's just as much of an immoral POS these days as he always was, he just hides it much more methodically, "experience" and all. He's a very self-entitled person and has the classic domineering attitude of a scam artist. The absolute best approach towards people like that is to delete them from your memory. Don't fixate on garbage humans, it's not worth your time and attention.


Great to see someone with bigger reach picking up on this story.

I made a video about this issue (although didn't do such a nice deep dive) but no one cared as my channel is very smol.

edit: I see some of you guys clicking on my profile, thanks a lot! The title of the video was "Dave's Blamage".


If he really is autist, it casts a big shadow on the group of autists and does a disservice (even if every autistic person is different), when he made questionable decisions.

not really , nobody should do generalisation it is bad

@@xgui4-studios You are right, but unfortunately this is done too often :(

Yeah he has brown hair too, this is bad for brown haired people


He thought how John Mcafee was doing similar with his mcafee "anti-virus" and figured why not him too.


2 vids a month. endermanch finna spoil us


Бащированный инглиш 👍<br>А Дэйв просто мале́нько п...здабол ещё с того видео, где приписал себе создание 3д пинбола. Видимо, многое на старости лет в башке напуталось. И этот эпизод скипнулся

Бащированный инглиш 👍
А Дэйв просто мале́нько п...здабол ещё с того видео, где приписал себе создание 3д пинбола. Видимо, многое на старости лет в башке напуталось. И этот эпизод скипнулся


Without any comment on anything else presented in this video, I had a shareware version of MemTurbo off a PC magazine CD and for whatever reason my Windows ME shitbox was unstable and hanging/blue-screening, MemTurbo legitimately helped. It was probably a hardware issue in the end, but I personally received genuine value out of the software.

Windows ME was the issue not hardware i think , Windows me is known to be bad but  have not use it so i dont know it is true

@@xgui4-studios also more than likely, I ended up going back to Windows 98 SE on it that I borrowed off a mate and things were a lot better. Still though, I think SoftwareOnline was probably started with good intentions, but very clearly lost their way.


I don't think it's quite a "scam" more like a dumb service for dumb people, nobodies grandma was online in 2006


Relax man, it's the usual stuff. Software that doesn't actually do anything but looks cool, antivirus that looks intimidating and pretends to protect and save your life, from day 1. Software that either installs the adware along itself, displays ads inside itself or is an adware to begin with.

You know how many modern reputable corporations did it, right?


Claims as of recent that “MemTurbo did not increase performance”, even though the ad for it in CpuRocket says that you should upgrade to it for “maximum performance”. I guess he admitted to lying in a way. He just won’t say that he did.


Spywarenuker was a pretty agregious bit of malware back in the day, i've also had problems with Avast, and AVG as well. As AVG is basically Spyware in itself, and it almost impossible to remove on older versions of windows, at least Avast is just infuriating to use, and has gotten worse over time. FreeRAM did the same thing, and was actually pretty useful, and is still available to download, although it's not been updated since 2007.


Scam is used too eagerly. Some products do perform tasks, just weakly like PuPs. The court judgement is justified however for the security software as that was milking the cow too much. Sounds like he didn’t know what to do when he left Microsoft and chose the path of marketing greed. You know, what America is known for!


who wouldn't scam the elderly? they do nothing good anyway. BASED!


You got it all wrong, it was the autism who got him into scamming people with malware.


The thing about InternetShield is at its core it could have been a valuable product. Today we have Google Safe Browsing and similar offerings by other vendors, which provide a constantly updated blacklist of dangerous websites for browsers to use. Of course the problem with InternetShield is it uses manipulation as its core sales tactic, with scary large numbers (likely they just enforce a site blacklist somewhere) and taking what could be a very simple product and making it seem complex and important, and thus worthy of being expensive. And as was the case with Registry Cleaner, the "sample" fixes for the trial are so small as to be useless. The trial's only purpose is to scare users into purchasing, not providing them with a usable sample of the software's functionality. I suspect that is the main cause of the court's ire.

Doesn't use hosts? Might be messing with networking on a lower level then to block packets or something.

It used Internet Explorer settings, Zones, Restricted Sites from what i heard.

@@SianaGearz You're correct, it simply adds a bunch of wildcards there. Kirb found it for me


A couple things: 4:20 It does make sense to "defragment ram", just not for the same reasons you would defragment a hard drive. When memory is allocated it's pinned in place and as memory is allocated and freed (if you're lucky), it becomes harder and harder to allocate large chunks of memory, which was a problem in those times. Remember back in those days we were rocking mere megabytes of memory. This is one of the reasons why older Windows versions would frequently need to be restarted. Never used MemTurbo so I can't speak for its actual effectiveness, but the idea itself is not silly.

NetTurbo changes some very well known network settings that could in fact increase your network performance. Whether I'd pay for software to do it is another question (I clearly wasn't in the demographic since I knew how to do this myself), but the technique behind it is sound, if not a bit overstated. Some of those settings were damn near necessary to play online games with any regularity. I'm gonna be real man, so far you're not batting very well.

@@sirflimflam I agree, same for Registry app - if you know programming, then you know why it showed up those results on clean sys.<br>Author should learn more and dig deeper then just scraping the surface. I highly doubt author's programming knowledge.

@@sirflimflam I agree, same for Registry app - if you know programming, then you know why it showed up those results on clean sys.
Author should learn more and dig deeper then just scraping the surface. I highly doubt author's programming knowledge.

You need to avoid memory fragmentation, but once it has happened, it's generally way too late to do anything about it. As such the application like that can do absolutely nothing about it, as you say, the allocations are pinned in place (in the logical address space of an application, from which the allocations occur), because the memory can be referred to by pointers and pointer-offsets which are generally impossible to enumerate and fix up; and when they are possible to enumerate, it's very performance prohibitive.

What the application really does by all reason is just allocate and dirty to force everything into swap. Ascribing mechanisms and properties to it that it doesn't provide helped him charge higher price for it.

There are some examples of memory defragmenting, but it must be foreseen from ground up. Microsoft Basic on 8-bit computers defragments its memory. It was spectacularly slow, but you didn't expect much of a home computer at a price comparable to a good pocket calculator, compromises had to be made.

I'm glad you agree NetTurbo is a scam. I don't think RAM defragmentation is a job of a utility, and if it's done, it's done by the OS. RAM is optimized for random reads and sequential speed isn't significantly faster, but I would assume it's a rare occurrence when there's a chunk that can't be allocated and it's due to fragmentation. But when that happens, the OS surely autodefragments it.


im unsubbing from you and dave

idiot clout chaser


Back in the Windows XP days and earlier "win rot" was a real problem. I remember having to reinstall XP every 6 months or so since it would slow down just through normal usage. Vista/7 largely solved this problem, at least for me. But until then there were definitely a lot of tools claiming to be able to help with this problem without the need for a full OS reinstall. Some apps did indeed leave behind cruft in the registry. It was more than just folders, you'd have things like broken links to DLL files that had been removed when the application was uninstalled, if the app did not properly clean itself up. In theory Windows was spending some time trying to load these files for their original purpose which could result in performance degradation over time. Not really sure what factor this played into win rot if at all. And the weird thing to me is, Dave being an ex-MS employee who worked on Windows would have been the perfect guy to develop products for this space that actually legitimately helped.

Also 42 is a low number for these types of tools IIRC. So I wouldn't hold that against them. Though they are claiming "Empty key" is a problem (and in fact if you remove all of those I am betting that number goes down a bit) which MS likely does not consider it to be and I doubt they have a performance impact. However some of the other messages like broken file associations do have a fair chance of being legitimate, I feel, though I seriously doubt this software fixing them would noticeably improve Windows performance.

Would be interesting to actually see a commercial/cracked version of the software run on a mature system that has had lots of third-party software added/removed (to the tune of thousands of issues detected) to see if it actually makes any sort of performance impact. I feel running it on a new OS image isn't really that interesting.

That said the popups on restart and started are REALLY scammy feeling. To a lesser degree is the little warning dialog it opened when you first ran it (warning dialogs are for informing the user of problems, not conveying general information about a product). And of course the primary purpose of the trial is not as an actual sample of the software functionality, but to pressure the user into purchasing. Alone, the trial has no practical use in and of itself.

I did not reinstall XP, 2000 or 98 every 6 months, absolutely not, i didn't even reinstall them with major hardware upgrades. I have seen what these types of utilities do, and i'd say on the whole they contributed to windows rot, because all sorts of random things would break leading to reduced functionality and performance. I have had to do a lot more maintenance on my father's PC and he used these software extensively, the psychological manipulation by these tools is too great. And then he keeps saying "i never had issues with it", yeah well it's not him fixing the damage but me, and it's often noticed weeks later, the mystery issues must have come from something. Attempts at aggressive cleanup were prone to messing up the component refcount, later messing up the uninstallers and causing them to not do their job properly.

I had some tricks like deleting root PCI device and manually manipulating preload drivers in the registery when i needed to move the system to an entirely different CPU; also Windows 98 was very fragile with regard to DMA mode in the IDE driver, it would sometimes disappear from random faults and would need to be re-enabled manually, and without DMA the performance would be quite painful. The windows built-in disk cleanup utility was good and harmless. Defragmentation was a must, and some of these utilities were better than others.

Broken DLL (actually COM/OLE) references they all don't really matter, Windows won't try to parse the corresponding registry keys unless an application requests the DLL, at which point, does it even matter, the application is broken or gone, right. It's purely manipulation by the tools to make it feel like they did something.


MemTurbo could be one of those apps that eats up all your RAM to pressure Windows and applications into freeing RAM assigned to cache. So then it can technically claim it does free up RAM. The problem is this RAM was being used for the useful purpose of cache, and is now being used for nothing at all, which is useless. And if the cache's RAM was needed for some other purpose, it would have been freed anyway. So generally such tools are useless and counterproductive since the system is likely to run slower while it rebuilds the cache. Windows largely solved the problem of these apps by making "Free RAM" numbers less prominent in Task Manager in favor of "Available RAM" which counts both free RAM and RAM being used by Windows for cache.

The description is of course misleading, it's guaranteed to be a memory eater forcing swap.

Though such a utility would still have had tangible usefulness. Because when it consumes RAM, it would just dirty each page, generating no disk loads and only disk writes, and the only writes would be to a swap file which would ideally be near-contiguous, in reality it often wasn't but better than fully random.

When you load a memory hungry application which loads a lot from disk, then you have the problem that the system needs to simultaneously evict things to swap, and load things in, which causes the hard disk to seek between fully unrelated areas with reads and writes fighting against each other, which takes a lot longer and feels much less pleasant. You're not at all spending most of the time on real data transfers but waiting for head movement. Particularly bad in the era before command queueing and dynamic head path planning.

Of course the flip side is that when things need to get swapped in again, it's worse than before, but if you knew what the utility is doing, this may well be a compromise you're willing to take. Then again, if you did, should you have been willing to pay $30 for it, or rather closer to $5? I think unsubstantiated claims made it a chunk of money.


I thought it obvious the dude is dodgy af. And I really dislike boasters. A life of lies; but to the contrary, it's interesting that autistic people are known for their blunt honesty. I wonder if he has a diagnosis, wouldn't be the first imposter. But given these particular issues of concern that you raise were 18 years ago, should we be holding him accountable all these years later? I don't know the answer, but it does speak to his character.

Every person on the spectrum is unique in their behavior, so please don’t make assumptions about us.<br>That being said, autism or not, he should be criticized and shunned for trying to downplay a literal scam operation he ran. Actions like that speak more about his character than words.

Every person on the spectrum is unique in their behavior, so please don’t make assumptions about us.
That being said, autism or not, he should be criticized and shunned for trying to downplay a literal scam operation he ran. Actions like that speak more about his character than words.


btw brothersoft is also another suspicous company, known for pushing sketchy software back then (and even today). So... that's another yikes.


Cant fucking trust anyone sick of this shit

Trust yourself are better than trudt someone


He once said that pirating software was hypocrisy, I actually pirated MemTurbo, and finding out it  was made by davepl felt bad, but now feels good again


btw if you look closely at registry cleaner’s eula, you’ll see that it is developed by a company called SysTweak, Inc. that company not only still exists but also still develops the same bloody program under the name “regclean pro”


I had it right with computes all along; - they are best used either offline or on a small network at most, as music machines... - any decent computer can emulate many different classic synths...

Software today insists on calling home to ensure that you really really bought it x.x


Please google "how to avoid ram fragmentation". It is very real thing and can cause serious issues.

As an application developer who worked on several applications extremely prone to RAM fragmentation, it is indeed real, but this RAM cleaner application can do absolutely nothing about it.

It became a massive problem eventually, which is why google's tcmalloc exists. Firefox also shipped a fragmentation avoiding allocator of its own, based on BSD's jemalloc, on Windows 32-bit.


the "secrets of the autistic millionaire" is that you too can be rich if you are evil!
it's ironic, because autistic people tend to have a stronger moral compass, which is why we're poorer

the "secrets of the autistic millionaire" is that you too can be rich if you are evil!
it's ironic, because autistic people *tend* to have a stronger moral compass, which is why we're poorer


I would not claim every piece of software Dave has been involved with at SoftwareOnline is a scam, but like he himself worded in that video/series titled: "Blame Me"–he is to blame for the sketchiness of those programs


So he went to Microsoft, made his bucks.
Started a scam company, became a millionaire and got enough money to retire earlier.
Got sued but not for enough to run his finances.
Lived fine ever after and now scams people on YouTube by embellishing his work at Microsoft and pretending nothing bad was ever done.


The poor man is autistic. Love your stuff enderman but be more kind to the neurodivergent. You lost a sub.

What does autism have to do with what he did in 2005?

I'm autistic & it's not an excuse to scam people

@@EverDodd What does running a scam have to do with being autistic? Are you implying that he didn't know what he was doing was wrong?

How is scamming related to neurodivergent? HOW!?

what ??? that not related what so ever....


I would like to add that ram fragmentation is a real thing but ppl confuse it with hdd defrag, ram de-fragmentation is achieved thru a few means like making structs in your program follow natural alignment so the compiler dose not add padding because
struct{
int a;
char b;
int c;
}; is going to be not 9 bytes as 4 + 4 + 1 but 12 bytes because there will be 3 bytes of unused space put after the "char b" by the compiler to preserve alignment,

There is also defrag inside memory allocators (malloc) witch was way more of an issue with old 32 bit computers that did not have such powerful mmu's that could just unbind entire pages of ram, large page support and also memory allocation algorithms not being soo fleshed out back then (the default vcrt malloc implementation is still not great to this day witch is why i use stuff like mimalloc) and you can even find ram fragmentation problems on gpu's as with api's like vulkan and dx12 you have to provide a vram allocator, look up on google there is a popular vulkan allocator called vma that has a html 5 generator for the memory map to check for fragmentation issues


So you’re telling me the guy that made the windows task manager also scammed people


Are you seriously implying that all autistic people are scammers? The fuck?


NetTurbo would probably have been a legit tool. These days (I believe since Vista) Windows automatically grabs the correct values but on XP I have to use a similar program (And now a .reg since I exported the values) to get the most out of my network adapter.


And this mf had the audacity to sell a book on how he became millionaire as an autistic person. Miserable human


AH HELL NAH WHY YOU HATIN ON PLUMBERS?????? THEY FIX MY DRAINS AND SHIT