@Unicorn Fairy both thorax and pharynx have an older sister named larynx Both celestia and Luna have a younger brother named stariotwinklio and both smolder and garble have to middle siblings named flame and fire. Flame is a boy and fire is a girl and they are both twins with fire being a little older than flame by 29 minutes.
ocelus and pharynx hang out with sandbar and smolder and Garble and Luna and Thorax hangs out with ember and Celestia and Chrysalis hangs out with twilight and spike and rarity and the whole mane 6 when she is with sawtooth and his older sister larynx.
I have a head theory. First, those aren't her children. Mostly because of the introduction of thorax and his brother, (why doesn't he call other changelings his siblings?) So maybe her role is more to over look the grubs to see what jobs they would be good at. And second, what the changelings got reformed into was actually their original form. But something turned them cruel and love hungry between back then and now so they became the changelings from the earlier seasons.
@HECXHOCK Games even if she did care about the hive she clearly as no place there anymore. So what if she does care about flowers and feeling circle and hippies.
@Unicorn Fairy I get you are going to say that they are not so different run along a bunch of traits that you think they share and try to convince thorax to join chrysalis's side. Well stop right there fairy! Let me tell you fairy they are nothing alike thorax earned his kingdom his subjects and his friends chrysalis took her throne by force and she inslaved the other changeling for her own selfish gain. In other thorax got to where he is thought love and friendship chrysalis try to get there though fear and violence and she was defeated for it twice. What I am saying is that chrysalis is not thorax equal she's not even a real queen. She just a mean smuggler straight out of a nean smuggler's ally lounge.
@Unicorn Fairy she was evil but she wasn't for the sake of it she was doing it because she was hurt. Spike knows chrysalis well enough to know that she just wanted the best for her son and baby boy thorax.
The mean 6 are on the a list and so is spike. They have things named after them but the villains don't have anything named after them because they are on the d list.
Guys please embrace the fact that chrysalis is a kind of mom to the original changeling hive in from where and back again. She always understood friendships and love she just didn’t want to lose her leadership. And she cared for her kind of kids as the royal wedding shows that she only came to canterlot to feed her subjects and herself.
I also think that's the reason why she's mad at starlight not thorax, thorax is her kid, she isn't mad at him, she just thinks he's misguided, l mean why would she be mad at starlight? Thorax was the one who took over the hive, so lm guessing she's like a over protective mother who thinks starlight is a bad influence on her kids
@Lil' J I think she doesn’t like starlight because she was one of the people who reformed the whole hive and leaded alway the hive from her. Also I’m pretty sure she is mad at Thorax too because in one of the episodes she said something like “Don’t mention that traitors name in my hive!” and something like “ you will see what happens to the ones who leave the hive and come back.”
I would see this... if she didn't act the way she did in To Where And Back Again. To change was best for all her people; it would ensure they never starved again. But she didn't. And from the subtext I can gather, it seems like the reason she didn't was that it's easy to control the desperate and hungry.
@so you what , but her anger after the betrayal was mostly directed at starlight, after the hive was taken, all she talked about was starlight, she barely even mentions thorax
@Quacker ik he was never like that. what I meant is that it'll constantly make him hiss and growl just like when spike found him and he constantly hissed bc of the lack of love. and I think if chrysalis did remove the love inside of him she'd either lock him up somewhere or keep a close eye on him.
I don't think they where her children at all. I know they are based off of bugs but I don't think their whole hive works like that. But yeah she did care for them, I think she was just too stubborn.
When Chrysalis threatened to tear off Spike's wings, she didn't really mean to do it, I think. She even gave him back to his friends. So there is yet hope to reform her.
Um, I'm pretty sure she would have done it, and gladly, had the Mane Six not submitted to her. And she "gave him back" pretty much just so she could kill him along with them.
Also Thorax is a really bad king in how weak he is. Celestia might be peaceful but she has shown on multiple occasions that she can stand her ground and can assert her authority if needed. She has a sense of self-confidence and charisma to her that Thorax just lacks. The episode with Larynx didn't do anything but confirm to me how weak Thorax is.
I see your point but to be fair he didn't exactly ask to be the leader, it was kinda thrust upon him like twilight, he's doing his best and we can clearly see he's just doing what he thinks is right, sure he's kinda a wimp, but we see throughout multiple episodes like "triple threat" and "uprooted" that he can be assertive and wise when he needs to be
@{Well Hello} Yeah, it did make me warm up to him slightly more. Though with the episode of Phalynx I do kinda think he should have banished him. The episode kind of chickened out by not having Thorax make the hard decision to choose the needs of the many over the few.
“Pharynx” actually,but yeah I agree,there was en episode where Ember tries to help him be more assertive and he helps her be more gentle which kinda helped
As much as I love my boy thorax. I agree. I think he'd be better off as the one who makes allies between other creatures and changelings while his brother or reformed chrysalis (or both) where the rulers that did most of the hard stuff.
Chrysalis seems to be the most susceptible to reformation. Shes not world ending evil just conquering evil. She wants the best for her people and she thinks her way is the best. It's not hard to appeal to someone like her. Tirek has betrayal issues from his brother he would need some form of support to get him to accept that no one is going to betray him and that he doesn't need to be all powerful. Cozy Glow is just crazy keep her in stone.
Actually I believe it could be possible to reform Cozy Glow. If she believes that friendship is power and control, which kinda is, why not show her a way to control people but in a healthy way? Teachers control their students for example, they teach them things and make sure they are not bothering anyone from learning. The really difficult part I believe is "How to satisfy her?" because she seems like someone who always want more, more control, more power over people and I am not too sure how they would use that as an advantage to reform her.
@Amos_ FR I can agree on the friendship being power thing. But the term control gives off a "negative" connotation. I think that if she were to be reformed it would have to be shown that friendship is beneficial to ones mental health as well as social support. I do think that a bit of Chrysalis rubbed off on her with the virus thing but I do see her finding actual supportive friends who could help her kick her conniving side.
"She wants the best for her people and she thinks her way is the best."
If she really thought that deliberately starving her people of love for control and dependence in the Season 6 finale was a good thing, she pretty much crossed the line with that notion.
she is a CHILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pigifi Except Chrysalis didn’t show any indication she even knew about it. She regards it as a “corruption”. The idea that she was deliberately starving them is, like Cozy Glow secretly being an adult, a fan theory regarded as fact despite a lack of evidence for it.
Marek1shtar Cozy being an adult? Yeah, it’s how some fans rationalize both her imprisonment in Tartarus as well as her petrification. But no evidence for this is given in the show.
@pigifi She mentioned her changelings would have love for generations if her plan works though. And she literally said she wants to feed her subjects and have them obtain power in the wedding, she said it even if none of her buggos are around. Besides, pretty sure it works with how the queen of a hive gets the most honey or it goes to her first and then distributed among the hive in question and such.
@Bottlenose Cactus a child that planned to destroy magic, sent the mane six to Tartarus to get them out of the way, took over a school, and took two ponies hostage with one actually being nice to her only to be repaid with a knife in the back.
Gotta repeat what I said in a different comment thread: I don’t think Cozy Glow is irredeemably evil, I definitely don’t think she’s more evil than Queen Chrysalis and Tirek, and leaving her in stone would be completely irresponsible IMO. If she ever gets out, she’ll just be angrier and worse than before. As for what to do with her: high-security mental hospital. She’ll probably need years of therapy to become a functioning member of pony society, and wherever she’s put would need to be actually capable of holding her. (Incidentally, I’ve heard of cases that are at least somewhat similar to Cozy Glow: kids who needed to be put in long-term psychiatric care because they were a danger to their families, and after years of therapy were able to become functional members of society, even starting families of their own. So Cozy Glow’s case isn’t completely hopeless, or at least I don’t think so.)
@Violet AB Or she belongs locked away from anything with a pulse in a steel vault. Still, she's a child. Children are innocent, right? Cozy Glow might not be completely hopeless.😿👻
@Sour Rodent she's not a child she's a grown pony that looks like a child and she literally almost ended the world twice but sure just ignore those two huge factors.
@magicaltour1 Cozy being an adult was confirmed by one of the writers though. This was probably to get the "but she's a child stone is too harsh a punishment" people off their backs. But even if she was a child, she nearly ended the world twice.
@Tananda Lynch If it isn’t on screen, it doesn’t exist. Every indication in the show is that she is a child. One writer claiming otherwise doesn’t mean that it’s so. If they wanted us to believe she was an adult who looked like a child, they should have said so to begin with. But even Cozy says she is “just a kid,” and no-pony every contradicts about it. Further, did this writer have anything to do with her creation? One writer making a claim does not mean any of the other writers agreed with it.
While Chrysalis was overly militant, you're right that Thorax was having the Changelings go too far the other way and forsaking their entire history and culture in favour of acting like ponies.
If Chrysalis could be shown that friendship and pacifism aren't the same thing by Pharynx who like you said, would fight tooth and nail to try and stop her from retaking the Hive and to protect his brother Thorax, it could help her opt to embrace friendship and reform.
She'd of course still be angry at Starlight for causing her people to turn into pacifists but that's something else she can work on moving past once she's embraced friendship.
I kind of want to see a follow-up on Phrynanx. Maybe now that he's become a little more moderate he sets up a new changeling guard and military. I don't think he's truly the only changeling who feels some nostalgia for the old ways and misses being able to express themselves through force. It could make for a good IDW issue. Phrynax finding others like him and realizing he's not as unusual as he thought he was. Maybe making a new changeling guard to not only protect the hive but also project changeling power. Thorax is peaceful by nature but having 2 impressive looking guards at his side will certainly make dignitaries think twice about trying to take advantage of him. It could also be a small lesson for Thorax as well. After all Celestia is peaceful yet she still has guards posted when on official duty.
@marinus18 Yeah, I don't believe for a minute that Pharnyx was the only Changeling who feels nostalgia for the old ways. There had to have been others in the Hive who weren't happy with their people turning into total pacifists. Why they weren't there in Pharnyx's episode can be explained in that they were in other parts of the Hive not shown in the episode or on guard duty.
Still, I think that the Hive is finding that balance plus when Chancellor Neighsay called Changelings "unpredictable creatures", Thorax was as angry as the other heads of the allied races were and looked ready to beat down Neighsay. This shows that Thorax still has some Classic Changeling instinct left in him as he won't let outsiders slander his people.
@ryan macdonald Thorax though is somewhat impulsive. He can be aggressive on impulse but he struggles to be aggressive in a controlled way which is something a ruler needs to have. That could be a good way that it opens. That Thorax lets himself be manipulated by some bandit ponies who promise to stop their raiding and Phyranx scolds him for that. He then sets up the changeling guard and when Thorax protests Phyranx says the changelings should still be a strong race and that they should let others know not to mess with them. He would then bow down to Thorax and ask him to be their king which would make Thorax uncomfortable. He would argue but Phyranx would bring up how many see him as a pushover and how a king needs to make it clear to dignitaries that the changelings are still to be feared. Then a group of bandits attack and the guard shows off what they can do. Intimidating them and making it clear that from now on attacking changelings or raiding on hive territory will have consequences. They already used up their second chance so he locks them up. Maybe the end could be Thorax meeting with an ambassador who tries to be pushy but then Phyranx steps forward menacingly and tells the king will not be spoken to like that which makes the pony back down.
Am I the only one who thinks that thorax isn't "changing their culture in favor of ponies" I kinda see it as him setting up a sort of "therapy camp" for the changelings, after all, activities like dancing, craft making, and talking about your feelings are activities that therapists or psychologists use to encourage patients to express themselves so they have a better way to Cope with their trauma, after all, living almost all your life constantly starving under the rule of an "evil" Queen seems very stress inducing
@Lil' J The Changelings literally changed overnight from "I must consume love to life" to "Love of people sustain me", they no longer were "forced" to be evil and with changing morality most probably felt weird and scares of what they did.
He had a bad hand but by mending and strengthing the bonds of family, putting aside out traditions that no longer make sense for how they act and embracing who they are and not be literally drones. Changelings could move forward as Changelings started to learn how to be nice and being nice with friends eho care for you is alot more kinder then ripping out love like a sewer Rat.
Didn't Thorax say : "because all the changeling did was hunt and patrol" They're peaceful now so they don't need to hunt and patrol so thorax added new activities.
@I like pie well, I suppose they could reproduce other ways. With eachother, I don’t think Chrysalis is the only female changeling capable of laying eggs.
@Athena Unfortunately, yes, there is such a method of reproduction in nature - but it is "wrong". If the queen disappears from the hive, then one of the worker bees can become a "laying worker bee" - and randomly lays eggs. But these eggs give only drones, that is, male bees. The laying workers thus accelerate the degradation of the hive, and in this case, the beekeepers urgently destroy the laying workers and look for the queen to move in - otherwise the hive will go crazy and die without the control of the queen.
@SunFlowerif you are right with bees, than the future of the hive is not bright... Some of worker bees can transform into laying worker bees and start to make eggs, but these eggs are drone eggs. And such a laying worker bee is a big danger for a hive as it makes other bees crazy without queen
4:25 I would think Chrysalis would know Phalanx. He is fiercely loyal to the hive and as head of patrol was of a very high rank. Seeing one of her most loyal subjects fight just as hard and fiercely as before would impact her. I don't think Phalanx will ever fit in with the new mainstream changeling culture. But his loyalty to the hive likely will cause him to make a small group of like minded changelings. Now that he's dropped some of his most toxic tendencies I do think he's not as alone as he thought.
That could be a good season 10 issue. Phalanx still feeling out of place but now with a more moderate attitude he meets and befriends others who also feel some level of nostalgia for the old days. Those who also rather not express themselves through emotions but through strength.
You know technically speaking if the Changelings function like most hive insects, wouldn't they need a queen to actually, you know, stay alive as a species? It would offer a motivation to reform Chrysalis rather than keep her in stone forever.
This is what should've happened in the show, I finally feel some sort of closure at imagining Chrysalis and the villains being reformed through your well-thought out theories!
I'm torn. On one hand, I like the idea, as reformation is a major theme in the show. On the other hand, not everyone who is a jerk in real life will just become better people. Some people are just bad and irredeemable. It's harsh, but an important lesson.
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@Aesthetic Tale You're right. Evil can't be redeemed. Queen Crysalys should die and let the changelings go extinct. It's not like they need her to save the species. Changelings are filthy parasites like how breezies are no different from cockroaches. (Totally not reverse psychology.)😼👻
"They decided to not accept friendship, for one reason or another" yeah the writers for S9 were awful. it felt like they just rushed it so it could be over with, which is sad.
@Mrirani's Life how can a theory, which is by definition an analysis of a hypothetical circumstance, possibly be considered fake?
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I honestly think they just wanted it to be over. Also what's the message here "accept friendship or burn in hell" has some major Christianity overtones in it don you think?
@Kane Hodder I had to reread that because I kept seeing "except friendship can burn in hell", because you the right word, which was "accept" also no??? this isnt Veggie Tales dude
It wasn’t awful, some people don’t change and not like taht and this VII or just addressed why Chrysalis has issues, they are real. Also people were upset for years that all villains are being reformed and when they don’t reform some people are upset?
@Kane Hodder I think if you lay down what each of the bad guys did, feeling sorry for what they did and embracing Friendship is Way Nicer.
Tirek alone literally sucked the magical essence of ponies leaving most barely able to run, attempted to dominate the world under his Iron Hoof and absorb the Alicorns magic so no one could appose him.
That went from "Abit of a Jerk" to full on "I will burn everything if I cant have it" which goes above morality and is just flat out "Literally just No". I think he getting it off lightly imo.
The more I think about it, the more I realize, Chrysalis didn’t even really start out as a villain. She was just trying to feed the other changelings. She just went about things the wrong way and later, let vengeance cloud her judgement.
Finally... I found somebody coment about queen chrysalis reformed... Cause... Hell!! She is so beautiful!!! And the only one with the most brighter color too
I for one think crysalis is perfect the way she is and reforming her would be a disservice to her unique character :) and devalue her past efforts. Yeah i really like her :3.
I think she did not reform because she knew that even if she did her son thorax would never forgive or welcome her back because because she was not a good mother to thorax. So every changeling likes him and every changeling hates her.
@Unicorn Fairy he throw the baby out with the bath water instead of reforming changeling culture he pretty finished it in favor of coping pony culture.
@Ashley Hawk I feel bad for her. She just wanted the best for her children. But now she can see that she has no place in the hive anymore or with her kids.
Wow! That's a very astute observation about Chrysalis and her hive: even though it was changed for the better (most would agree), this resulted in mass genocide of the Changeling culture 😨
Acutally if you think about it Thorax wasn't trying to turn the hive into ponies by celebrating hearths warming eve. If you watch "The Hearth's warming club" Ocellus says "It's out favorite Holiday! Well ever since heamare Twilight shared it with us last year." Thorax wasn't celebrating it to become ponies they celebrated it cause theh wanted to! But let me know what you guys think!
Considering the only form of celebration they had was "a gorde fest", I honestly don't blame thorax for wanting his subjects to celebrate a new holiday
@Lil' J Although, they could’ve done a holiday that celebrated their liberation from starvation, maybe even the Crystal Ponies would do that. It would’ve been cool to see the Hive have some sort of Hanukkah type of celebration.
I think thorax does "pony stuff" because that's the only positive influence he's ever had, he associates changeling stuff with hunger and suffering, but since the poinies welcomed him and showed him love, he probably associates them with "being good" so to be "good" he does pony stuff
Cozy glow: i've just realized that a filly won over a dark shadow prince, a giant red monster, a former queen of a civilization and discord and I just wondered where is this filly's parents?
Cozy glows parents: We were never here you never saw us and we weren't in a episode
Is anyone else concerned by the fact that they imprisoned then turned a child pony into stone without even considering reform or some other option of punishment or even consulting her parents. Like she appears to be the same age as the cutie mark crusaders or maybe a bit older. Like it’s the same as turning Diamond Tiara in stone because she was at time a conflict. Like Cozy Glow went far pretty fast. But there was hardly any interaction between her and the main characters and any discussion on trying to help her. She wasn’t even a full grown pony, like damn. Like maybe she need some kind of mental institute and a full time therapist and one on one friendship eduction and full time surveillance. But again. She a kid. Not even full grown. She has no impulse control, she has not reach maturity. I don’t really like her that much but it still insane that they just straight up impressions her like she has the same reputation as Tirek who has been causing terror for thousands of year or Chrysalis who was a queen with an entire army.
Also. We all know the answer to Chrysalis reform is Fluffle Puff.
I definitely flinched when they changed her to stone. Like DUDE SHE'S A CHILD WAIT!!!?!? I know she probably always uses that to her advantage but... 😬 Yikes. Hey mlp there's an imprisoned child caught in your nicely tied bow!
I beg to differ. Child or no, Cozy Glow was a dangerous opponent who committed serious crimes, and she must atone for those crimes, as well as be rendered powerless. We often turn a blind eye to the antics of children, since we believe they don't know any better and they can't do any real harm. Cozy on the other hand demonstrated that she knew exactly what she was doing and sought power in a way not too dissimilar to other power hungry individuals. In doing so, Cozy Glow endangered nearly all of Equestria. If a dangerous person like that was to get off scott free, who knows what they may try next.
Children deserve less is a common argument people like to make. I can see where they're coming from. Normally, a slap on the wrist and a stern 'NO!', or maybe a spanking would be enough to get a child to think twice before doing that again. Not so with Cozy. It was highly likely Cozy would be a repeat offender, and that is way more headache than what Equestria is willing to put up with. With that, I feel imprisonment was the best option, at least temporarily, until a time where reconditioning wouldn't be a problem.
Diamond Tiara and Cozy Glow are two different things for goodness sake... Diamond Tiara was just self absored and that was it... Cozy Glow is ponyfied psychosis... Cozy Glow planned each and every single detail for world domination... And another thing, Cozy Glow posed a huge threat, not once, TWICE... That alone is enough reason why she deserves to be imprisoned
Just use actual #RehabilitativeJustice & depetrify them, put them in prison for life & have various counsellors talk to them daily; which is what should've been done with Tirek & Cozy Glow in the 1st place. Even if they don't reform, whatever's learned from couselling them can be used in dealing with others initially displaying criminal behaviour.
At the last bronycon, the show's creators said that Cozy Glow was actually grown pony that just looks like a child, almost like those possession movies where a demon takes over the body of a child.
@Serena Breeze that's so dumb, an evil child is a classic trope in entertaintment, but now they have to justify it, cause people can't stop crying about it
We don't have any REAL confirmation that Cozy is indeed a Filly. She could be a fully grown but very short pony. She seems to have a more advanced mind than real Fillies like the CMC.
Honestly I know many people believe Cozy Glow to be a Psycopath but she reminds me so much of Baby Doll from Batman. Baby Doll struggled between reality and illusions because she was physically unable to age. She went off the deep end even worse than Cozy Glow did in that instead of just imprisoning people and wanting to rule she wanted to take the entire city of Gotham down in a nuclear Explosion and tried to kill off the entire cast of her show because of the conflict waging deep within her subconscious. Even after all that she still managed to finally give up evil for good and even attempted to live a normal life. What if Cozy Glow faced a similar issue? If not by actually being a adult in child form then maybe she was forced to grow up really fast because she was practically raising Herself?
@Gracekim24 bro that does not matter you don't run up to a psychopath and yell in there face be good and then shoot then if they day no. She needs to be in a hospital and what if she is completely sentient in the stone? Discord and tirec are ancient beings and would probably be fine but the queen was losing her marbles being alone for a couple months and you think giving a life sentence to a child is the with the inability to move or stretch or blink or sleep is the best thing the could do?
@TimberJackEB a yes send a child with mental issues to be alone in her thoughts for who knows how many years? Is she going to be about the age of an adult before they let her out? If she was not ok before how is being turned to stone help her at all? When she does come out she will not have the mental capacity of here age with no one to talk to is completely fine and a just punishment. Even if anyone with eyes sees that she needs to be in a mental health institute.
@TinyKittenKisses why does anyone even watch this stupid shit? Who cares? Its obviously for children and you have no reason to have an opinion and should not even be here.
This can also be considered a stupid take by people.
@Jovanni Lopez Equestria couldn't afford to release Cozy Glow due to the danger she posed to Equestria. When you give a psychopath room to stretch their legs, there needs to be someone significantly stronger than the psychopath in question to make sure they stay in line. It wouldn't take much for Cozy to use her cunning or small stature to escape whoever was assigned to her. If she goes missing, she can scheme about getting payback. Knowing her, she will stumble on a great source of power and once again be a serious threat.
Each of the three villains imprisoned in stone at one point threatened the fate of Equestria, twice (or more), and Cozy Glow is no exception. They need to be kept under, or they will threaten Equestria yet again. Besides, there needs to be repercussions for their actions.
@TimberJackEB you are not telling me that in all of equestrian there is not a single prison that does not involve some princes or discord to send them there. Are you really trying to say that no on ever anywhere had mental issues at all or have some people that need help. Like for instance manhatten im pretty sure would have an asylum or even a prison in a max security im pretty sure someone could teleport her there and if you cant trust the guards people code visit here like twilight and celestia. Putting a psychopath into a position were the only things they have left to do is talk to them selfs will not just "magically" fix the problem if you keep her there for 10 50 100 or how many years they decide this time. Even putting her back in tarterus is 1000 times better and gets the job done still.
@Jovanni Lopez You make a sound point. Thinking about it now, Tartarus was a good option, since the only reason Tirek and Cozy Glow managed to escape was because Discord released them. Other than that, I doubt there are many institutional correctional facilities or prisons in Equestria that could hold them.
I think ultimately, Discord had a big role in deciding their fate, and figured 'How about we petrify them, since they did much worse than me?'. This is pretty bad, but I think Discord takes losing his powers very personally, and was feeling spiteful. He isn't a saint, so I can see this being a possibility. Why no one in Equestria was concerned? Probably because the population suffers from extreme psychological and empathetic ignorance, as is demonstrated many times throughout the show. Why, Celestia and Luna thought it was a good idea to petrify Discord, so I'm sure they saw no problems with this.
Maybe ponies aren't as forgiving as we previously thought, to fire and forget on these villains. It's also something of note that Gorgons keep gardens of petrified creatures, and are seen as evil. Celestia does the same, keeping Discord as one of her lawn ornaments. Who is to say those other statues aren't actually sentient creatures? Is Celestia Secretly evil?
@TimberJackEB most likely not directly evil more like all opposition is stoned in her pursuit of HER version of equestrian. If anyone did anything ponys would consider a horrible act then no one would really care if they got stoned even if being traped in stone is literally the worst punishment i can think of other then death. Image you stuck in stone for hundreds of years never ageing or moving and all you have to do is think. These other creatures that have been alive for 1000 of years could handle it but having a normal life span of maybe 100 years stretched to infinity till someone thinks that your powers could be used for good?
This is like the one of those punishment worse then death forever imprisoned in your own mind till some princess decide they want you out for a lesson for there student?
It's really lame and kinda stupid how she was made a villain in the first place. For a teensy little pegasus who goes from 0-60 in what, like, 3.5 episodes, she's pretty single dimensional. Why wasn't there a Fiendship is Magic issue released about her?
@Jovanni Lopez if it's a show for kids then don't over think it and demand legal u.s.a. based human child rights to a cartoon horse, don't lose sleep over the rights of a cartoon, as soon as the show ended that was it, she's not gonna be alone with her thoughts for thousands of centuries cause she and the show stopped existing. Geez these people
@Jovanni Lopez what is a strong midset?? To cry and cry and cry a search for justice because little cartoon horse got punished in tv show and is not fair :( :( yeah, you sure are the mature guy here
@TinyKittenKisses no its to think theoretically about these scenarios in there own world or concepts. The show might be over but the comic books are still going and the most i was implying is that i hope that eventually they will let them out. Then there are the thousand of fanfiction, mods(for games), and projects would have stop at "its just a kid show". One of the most silly yet best mod inspired by mlp is for Herat of iron 4 called eqwestria at war and is also one of the most well made mods. But obviously all there work and dedication to the project is pointless because its a kid show. Ok now lets move into the fanfiction side. Have you ever heard of bride of discord and daughter of discord? Well in my opinion these were done pretty well but obviously they should just throw it in a dumpster fire and burn because when the show ended fluttercord did not become canon.
The way you say it makes it a wall of text that can invalidate any and everything in the community with just a "its a kid show, stop it". I dont know how you got this mindset when there were conventions with hundreds of people dressed up as ponys. That lined was crossed a LOOOOOONG time ago.
Also i just like theory crafting and thinking what if scenarios.
@Jovanni Lopez do you think i care about a fanfiction some loser in arkansas wrote in his basement??? Why is that even an argument?? I didn't even read half of that response. Why would i care about that??? And the comics well, nothing that happens there matters, chrysallis lives in an european castle in the comic, twilight"s mother wrote daring do, sombra died peacefully, the comics don't matter cause they're not canon. If the comics that are official material don't matter, then i couldn't care less about some random fanfiction. Plus the final episode was years into the future and cozy is still trapped, just make peace with it
@TinyKittenKisses dude its called a theory man you act like i just shot your dog and told you that your mother did it. Its a what if and perhaps situation that i thought up in my head. The reason i used the fanfic is that should that dude get rid of it all because its not "cannon". No one in this conversation was going to grab a pitch fork and go raid hasbro for warcrimes. Its a "what if the show keep going on and this happened or that.
@TimberJackEB I think the Royal Sisters were blinded with anger with how on their last days as rulers, they ended up looking like failures once again. And the fact they weren't included in the final rainbow laser, like it shows that despite they used the Elements before and their Cutie Marks were on the damn tree, losing their connection to the Elements apparently means Harmony has tossed Luna and Celestia aside.
@vikk biff Apparently Tartarus is ultimately just a edgy animal control/zoo rather than a place of damnation. Due to the only "prisoners" in there aside from Tirek(and Cozy Glow) is just non-sapient monsters that just growls and stuff. Its surprising Tirek didn't lose his mind due to not having anyone that can actually talk back to him for a 1000 years.
@King explosion murder fuck off Children understand their actions sooner than you might think. Discipline is key, especially in early childhood development. When you let a child get away with doing something bad because she's a kid, she's going to do it again, and you help to nurture the mentality of 'I'm going to do whatever I want at other people's expense, and no one will stop me, because I'm the most important being in the universe'.
Eventually, a child could commit a criminally atrocious act, such as grand theft or even murder. At some point, the line has to be drawn. Better to draw it sooner than later.
Was the punishment for Cozy Glow harsh. Absolutely, but bear in mind she threatened the National Security of Equestria and the neighboring realms, and she escaped from what is effectively a maximum security prison. She's a repeat offender that has established herself as a danger to society, and for the safety of the public, she needs to be detained, child or not.
@TimberJackEB i dont think you know how children work. shes like, ten at MOST. her brain is literally not fully developed. there is no possible way for her to ever understand the weight of what she did at such a young age, same goes for real children. they literally cannot comprehend it. children need to be disciplined, yes, but they dont deserve to be permanently imprisoned in fucking stone dude what
@TimberJackEB also, hitting a child is not discipline, its been proven that all it does is traumatize them. the fact that you think its okay to hit a child to “correct” them says enough about your stance
@columbidaze You're jumping the gun here. Not once did I mention 'hitting', that is unless you consider spankings as a form of abuse, nor do I advocate for people to beat their children senseless in the name of 'discipline'.
Discipline can take on many different forms. Whatever the method used, as long as it is effective at deterring people from misbehaving, it's a viable form of discipline. Discipline can take the form of timeouts, extra chores, no desserts, groundings, device and toy confiscation, spankings, community service, fines, and jail time just to name a few.
There is no justification in beating a child senseless as if you're in a drunken frenzy. That said, when all else fails, I've found through personal experience that the mere threat of a spanking was enough to deter me from misbehaving, at least some of the time. Every so often, I had to be reminded of just how painful a spanking can be, not just in effect, but also in anticipation.
To tell you the truth, I was a horrible, rotten problem child, prone to anger, and prone to violence. Prospects of landing in prison at 18 were very high when I was younger, but thanks to the Lord and to my parent's tough love, I really turned my life around. You would never be able to tell I harbored such a dark past based on how I conduct myself to this day.
Discipline works. It has throughout history, and it's necessary in order to develop people of merit. Otherwise, the practice of discipline would have died out long ago. Another important note is not to just go around disciplining them willy-nilly without explaining why, but to let the child know what he or she did wrong; why the child is being disciplined. That is the single most important aspect of childhood discipline.
Yeah. I know it’s a kids’ show, one that won’t even say someone died before the events of the show, but from a Watsonian perspective what Cozy Glow really needed was probably a long stay in a mental hospital. Or maybe prison, but if you’re trying to reform her, definitely a mental hospital. It’s not even like cases somewhat similar to Cozy Glow don’t exist: I have heard of children who need to be placed in long-term psychiatric care because they were a danger to their families. (In the cases I’ve heard of, the kids did eventually get better and become functioning members of society, but it took years of therapy.) As Sawtooth’s pointed out, leaving Cozy Glow in stone for god knows how long is probably just going to make her eventual escape worse if and when it does happen.
There's no redemption for anyone who allies themselves with Tyrek. The only reason discord got away with it is he was betrayed and had friendship in his heart long before that. Plus Tyrek did manipulate him. Cozy was allied with him of her own volition
I think diamond tiara might have been known to be in capable of empathy entirely. I don’t understand why they needed to imprison them in stone thought, they could have just revamped Tartarus
"First of all, we've gotta keep them apart." *Co-dependance* Also, this video is SO good. Gotta admit, I didn't think you'd be able to convince me there was a way to reform Chrysalis, but this checks out. Can't wait to see the other two!
Neat theory and way to break down her motivations in the actual episode! My one issue is her “reformed version” in this video. It looks too much like a pony and not like the other reformed changelings (which would almost seem to reinforce the very thing Chrysalis is afraid of).
Only reforming Discord took almost 3 seasons and he was willing to give friendship a try. Chrysalis doesn't even bother to give it a chance, completely reforming her would be a miracle.
Reforming Discord take zero seasons because he never was a villain. He actually has a point for most of the time and justifiably was convinced that Celestia is "power hungry pony witch" (cause she was in his timeline as granddaughter of the Sombra). When Twilight released him he still suspect trickery but acknowledged that current incarnation of Shadow Pony isn't evil anymore (PS: Midnight Sparkle as Sombra's doughtier, clearly should be final boss of whole series). Same Chrysalis (aka Ocellus) is not evil. But she did know truth about Shadow over the Equestria and didn't trust minions of Shadow even slightly. She actually deeply cared about own hive and was trying secure border by taking control over potentially hostile country. Her only problem was that she was jealous and in her bias failed to recognize change in current timeline. Her imprisonment in the end was bullshit! Though I love how young Celestia wrecked her in the combat. Probably only good part in show finale.
Discord also doesn't really care about anything. He doesn't have some kind of code or morality that he works with unlike Chrysalis. Chrysalis does have a code of conduct; a warped code but a code nonetheless.
Also if you look at the attack on Cantor lot from a changing perspective, they were literally just trying to survive, As you know, they eat emotions eze food and as such need other sentient beings to feed off of.
It's like the terranids from warhammer 40K, yeah there big and scary but they're not "evil"
@TheRezro and what support do you have that Celestia is by any ways related to Sombra? she's weirdly benevolent for a power hungry pony witch. And that Discord come from another timeline? And Midnight Sparkle, daughter of Sombra? really? As far as i know, Chrysalis and Ocellus are two different peoples and chrysalis has proved through the whole serie that she is evil, i don't undestand what make you think she's not. Taking control of neiboring realms is not securing borders, it's invasion, you know? Young Celestia?
@Éfar Isti Sombra is king of the Equestria and peoples change. Chrysalis care about her hive and have legit reason to distrust ponies. Whole, she is evil because evil would undermine whole message of this franchise. Even Tirek who still is ass, at least do care about his shadowy brother.
@TheRezro he was king of the crystal empire, not Equestria and Celestia and Luna ruled it before he came to the scene. That's true but they can also change from bad to worse.
Yeah she care... in her own ways i guess. and her reasons to distrust ponies are lighttly questionnable since she's the one who attack them first.
Not after his betrayal, he didn't or have you forget what he said to Discord after taking his magic the first time?
@Éfar Isti Crystal Empire is Equestria, or at least its old capital. That part isn't even a theory. Plus city itself was ruled by Princes Amore in comic. We can safely assume that Celestia and Luna were her relatives ruling over vasal states after events of Hearts Warming Eve (they find crystal heart in mines, what impact Clover the Clever aka Sombra, as Wendigo are clearly the Sirens and he himself was Kirin).
The reason Chrysalis don't trust the ponies is because she know who secretly control them and what is true nature of Spirit of the Harmony aka the Shadow. In Agents of SMILE comic, it is confirmed that Battle with Tirek was staged. Despite acting like ass, Tirek did hold tears when his niece visit him in the prison. He also ostentatiously ignore Spike, as he is still salty, afer Spike served under him during Midnight Empire as Scorpan adjutant.
@TheRezro And where are your evidence of that? If the empire was the capital of Equestria, why was inhabited only by cristal ponies and not by earth ponies, pegasus and unicorns? why Celestia and Luna were the ruler of Equestria when Amore was still in power? they rules over Equestria, and there is no indication that it was a "vassal state". Clover the Clever is Sombra? what are the evidences of that? and no the Wendigos are not the sirens, they look different, they don't sings and they still exists in Equestria unlike the Sirens.
The tree was born from the magic planted by Starswill ans his companions, that is a canon fact, not the shadow ponie, i mean, we have seens his episodes, he clearly have nothing to do with it. You should be carefull with considering the comics canon, they don't always go in tune with the series.
@Éfar Isti Crystal ponies are result of crystal heart. It is why they not show up that commonly later. Canterlot also has unusual concentration of unicorns, same as Pegasopolis of Pegazi. They don't show up that commonly in other towns. Evidence for identity of Clover is how he react on spell and where he show up. I'm not talking about nature of tree but the spirit. If you pay attention discoloring of stones in documents aren't mistake. There is distinctive lack of one orb in planetarium, what later is revealed to be in possession of spike. It is green one and Rarity is actually one who own core element on diagram. Weird spiky element of Twilight is not present there.
Twilight, Celestia and Sombra are also only characters who can use Shadow magic, what in event with foresight potion is confirmed to be alicorn magic. Twilight also tend to turn a blaze when angry (so called Rapidash Twilight) and Minotaur said that she born under the tree, with her parents ignoring to address that entirely. There is also recurring joke about similarity of Twilight and Starlight, usually by foreign beings. Starlight and Trixie Lulamoon are also no one else then young Celestia and Luna. Also implied when Discord went super salty against Starlight, despite never talking to her beforehand. There is lot of evidence, though I admit that it is Dark Souls level of storytelling.
@TheRezro i really would like to know where you take your sources. Because most of what you said seems to be theories based on hasards and coincidences.
Shadow magic is just(evil) magic, anyone could use it if he learned how to do it. I think the part where the shadow magic is showed as Alicorn magic is a weird mistake of the serie since it is not specified why Twilight use it instead of her usual magic and shadow magic would contradict the benevolent nature of the Alicorns. There was a video on it about how it didn't make much sense for Twilight to use this type of magic. So she do magic when she is angry, how is that a proof or her lineage? what Minotaur? Starlight and Trixie are Celestia and Luna now? you're being more and more confusing, you know? Discord isn't particularly pleasant with anyone he doesn't know. All of this seems overly complicated and dark, especially for a kid show.
Chrysalis never reforming she is very bad but the video I see Tirek Cosy Glow Chrysalis together work thats look like friendship but I like this video so much.
@ʍou ʇɥƃᴉɹ pᴉdnʇs ʞooʅ no⅄ Because YouTube love to not give notifications. Also there was no reason to do so anyway. He make obvious statement that those are theory (d'oh) and then obliviously bring own theories as facts. But if you interested then when Zecora ask Twilight to use unicorn magic on potion, she did use same magic what Sombra did. Also full name of Trixie is Lulamoon. Starlight and Flurry Heart look almost identical (and there is mentioned in the show several times that apparently Starlight and Twilight also, but they do have different colors, but that is not relevant here directly). Discord also make weird attack on Starlight, which he literally never meet her, accusing her of being "power hungry pony". People also miss that he was no villain, but only extremely suspicious regard Celestia. And there are implications that she was different in the past, what is something Sunset Shimmer did comment about when she meet her. There is lot of hints. Either more or less direct.
@Play and be creative🧁 She is not as bad as people think. She in fact love her hive, but doesn't know how to behave always being center of attention. Also she has good reasons to be suspicious regard ponies, knowing that they use Shadow magic. Plus people seams to forget that Ocellus old form, coincidently look exactly the same as Chrysalis. Sadly this fact was never explored. Turning Cozy into stone was also BS as she is still a kid and they straight forget that Tirek also did have some development (he was lonely with harsh father, what lead him to creating himself a brother, who then start walking with dragon and obsessing over ponies, what angered him). Sadly because Hasbro randomly moved production during finale, we can't know what was intended ending. Beside that everything implied for Midnight Sparkle to be final boss. As well, it is where friendship they did build through the show, would stop be fueled by weird magic what bounded them. And we would see them dealing with they bad sides, we only hear about until now. And finally become true friends. But nop!
@Celine Rosali Adopted. Possibility yes. what is more important is that Twilight is his actual doughtier (which is why she end as a queen). The funny thing is that we do know that she has Nirik form, from first season. Just no one make connection. Lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFQ6xZ6qTz8
Mike Angelo吴耀辉2021-10-06 05:26:44 (edited 2021-10-06 05:27:34 )
@TheRezro everything your saying is pure BS 1 Celestia isn't Sombra's daughter or grand daughter 2 discord is THE SPIRIT OF CHAOS not some being from another timeline tf
As you did say it took almost 3 seasons, to fully reform. Each teacher has their own way of teaching, and so maybe they're could be someone close who could teach crystalist ways to become better. Not a complete change but a change to start to go down a calmer path
Maybe for cozy glow and tirek is too late to change. Because i saw that they are completely emotionless. But i dont think chrysalis deep down really hated mane six and starlight. I think chrysalis had a posibility of changing. Starlight could. And she did horrible things too but not than enslaving whole canterlot by pretending to be princess cadence. By using hive to help. Or replace the mane six and others. She created portals. And changed the future which is worse than what chrysalis did. She enslaved the whole city by taking their cutie marks away making them believe cutie marks are a distraction to their purpose. Starlight was far more dangerous. Than chrysalis and she could change. So i believe chyrsalis could too
lets remember he still did...questionable things. he had ab ackdrop when tirek apperaed and...we do not mention him getting 4 villains like sombra back
Discord was easy because he's not really evil (compared to others) just a prankster Chrysalis has potential in her to be reformed so she shouldn't be too hard. Cozy glows past isn't known much about so she might be hard to reform. Teirk is impossible King Sombra is also impossible because... Well... R.I.P 2x
@Mild Monster Because people from Hasbro are idiots, who were blocking creators from making series actually great. Cause it is for "little girls" BS. Gladly lot of that was delivered Dark Souls style, through indirect story telling and team has more free hands in the spoin off series. For reminder Hasbro actually move production to another studio during finale! It is quite obvious that plot collapse in the middle.
@Fresh2000 ZCORD A code of conduct isn't always good. A code of conduct is a code of conduct. It can be good or bad. For Chrysalis, it's obviously bad.
When I first saw Pharynx, I thought he was just pretty cool at first. But now after watching this, he feels like the most underrated MLP character EVER created. I love him so much now, that I want to turn him into a leather jacket XD. Also, for the subject of Chrysalis's true nature, you should cut her some slack. I mean, she was physically manifested into existence almost the exact same way Gunmar was...
I’d imagine cozy glow’s parents crying in front of the statue every once in a while and maybe even bring flowers, I was hoping that maybe cozy glow could be freed when Twilight sparkle meets cozy glow’s parents
no, her cuteness is but a weapon, her power is being able to chessmaster at such a young age. Cozy was able to play the long game building up to the events of School Raze, building a reputation, maneuvering her pieces, so much of Season 7 was devoted just to that little Filly and her prep work for a world takeover attempt that came damn close to succeeding. and think on this, she WAS just a filly, not a millennium old super power, but a filly of tender years.
I think that’s why she should be reformed last, if the 2 closest things to friends she has accept friendship that will make it much easier to reform her
Brandon Hill i think what she meant by that is that, her physical form is a filly, but her mind is something else more sinister and a lot smarter than most could have anticipated. Maybe the reincarnation of Grogar? jk
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Jennifer Smith2020-07-10 18:38:53 (edited 2020-07-10 18:39:03 )
@Brandon Hill The problem is children can be as violent and cruel as the adults...if not worse. In war torn countries there are gangs of children who rob and pillage villages.
Candy Peach I’ll try to answer your questions, and help you with clearing things up! Mind that some of this might draw on comic details and past generations, as well as the Mlpfim cartoon.
1. Yes, Cosy Glow is a filly; a young female pony that is not fully matured, which in MLP is the equivalent of a child or a teenager. A filly is a girl, a colt is a boy. A foal can either be a girl or a boy. Once they grow up and become adults, they become a mare or a stallion(I doubt geldings exist in this universe, as they’re a neutered stallionXD).
2. Because Tirek craves power, and that blinds one to other ways of doing things. Once you base your life only on what you can take from others, you will always crave more and never be satisfied. He’s wanted to steal pony magic from the moment he heard of Equestria, so I suspect he never saw them as actual “people”; just a means to an end.
3. No idea why she can’t make a new hive; her requirements for reproduction were never brought up. Though since she’s based off of a colony insect queen, and said insect queens rely on mating with a male from their own hive(unless a foreign male finds her, and there don’t appear to be any other colonies), it’s safe to say that her ability to fertilize eggs is beyond her reach as long as she stays alienated from her original, reformed hive.
4. There’s a huge difference between receiving love and understanding love, and if you don’t understand it it’s hard to accept it. As well, capable leadership doesn’t require that you love those you lead; just that their well-being matters in your overall choices. Her inability to understand love is cannon; it’s just food and a source of power to her. From the examples of hive life we’ve been given, love was never actually encouraged. While she appreciated her drone’s services, raised them and sought to keep them fed, she was otherwise a cold leader. She didn’t discourage in-fighting or bullying, she didn’t actively give love(craving superiority and power over lessers), and otherwise acted like a typical queen ant or bee.
A lot of that comes from her origins, as well. Basically, a rotten acorn fell into a mysterious, toxic underground pool filled with the bones of deceased unicorns. The acorn grew in near-darkness out of the bubbling, green waters into a twisted tree whose branches contained Venus flytrap-like pods with fanged teeth, feeding on the equally twisted and blood-sucking flying insects living there. Unfortunately Starswirl the Bearded found the underground swamp, recognized the dark magic it was filled with, and nailed a warning sign to the tree to keep people away. That nail allowed the bark to crack open further, and out spewed Chrysalis and the first few changeling drones, hissing at each other angrily and violently. Let’s just say she was not born of anything resembling “good”.
5. Lord Tirek is a centaur prince, and has a race of centaurs like him back in his homeland; including his mentor who introduced him to equestrian magic through a kidnapped unicorn- right before the king banished Tirek’s mentor to the mines for his crimes(Tirek’s dad was P*SSED). I suspect that because humans don’t exist in the Mlpfim universe, a centaur isn’t half a human/half horse fusion, but it’s own kind of creature. Despite there being humans in G1, the humans had to be brought to the MLP world through some sort of mystical transportation by one of the G1 MLP. The humans in G1 owned perfectly normal horses, like we do. There was a manticore earlier in the series, showing that in this universe a manticore is much different kind of creature than Tirek.
Think about Plague of Babies. They had what looked like normal Earth babies, but they were actually aliens, not babies. Therefore Cozy Glow is an alien.
Ember embraced friendship but she was proud to be a dragon. While she was somewhat frustrated with her position she never faced rejection or outright hostility like Thorax did. She felt accepted by her culture and wanted to prove herself in it. Thorax never felt like he belonged with his own people.
Alright so someone help me with what they 'represent ' but here is what I got: 1 obviously Sawtooth 2 Mlp-Silver-Quill 3 Dr Wolf 4 CannedCream 5 HoriXZ0n 6??? Help haha
@Im XxWolfie_RockruffxX I am all for that bud lol. Doc Wolf would be.... kindness? Idk. I honestly feel like they represent different things than the elements.... they represent the different views and aspects of theory 😎
@Sawtooth Waves I wouldn't feel too sorry for chrysalis. Don't worry I'd there one thing I am sure of is that chrysalis is gone. Probably just the old hive settling.
This make me think of Sailor moon and the evil sister. Being that they where turned good one by one but the key thing being that once the first evil sister turned good she helped her other sister be good as well and then finally the two good sister turned there remaining sister to there side. So if these three where ever free I would agree that they would be turned one at a time, but once they had they would help the other two see friendship as well. My only wonder would be the order...I think that Chrysalis would personally be lasted to change due to the transformation and how pretty should could possibly look.
Great video, but in my opinion the images of a 'reformed' chrysalis look too much like Celestia. Chrysalis would most likely look more like Pharnyx, a bit darker.
I have no doubt that if Chrysalis did reform and turned into a reformed changeling, she'd look beautiful, just like the image in the video thumbnail, that's one of the reasons why i for one would've liked to see Chrysalis reformed just to know what she'd look like, but as many say it's kinda good she didn't.
Though this does highlight why I don't like what happened to the changelings. They looked really cool in their creepy yet cute design and them being hideous creatures who feed on positive emotions made them very interesting. I would have preferred if the ponies and changelings reached some kind of compromise. That the changelings can never create their own love and need to feed off of ponies. Maybe they create a set of laws to regulate that.
I've always bin pissed at wat they did to him in S9. Hes an ancient, evil, Umbra king and they think they can just whoop-dee-doo use necromancy and revive him like nothin' would be fine. Plus his personality was sh*t. He acted like he was Count Dracula and not an ancient warlord
@RayzerSun they flanderised him a little that's true. Maybe his arrogance would've been pulled away after the failure and reborn again by "Grogar" and have a tight leash on him. Otherwise, yeah it makes sense he got vaporised.
I think we lacked a villain that was a necessary evil in the world. imagine it, if someone destroys that evil, the whole world is thrown into chaos since without bad...good can't exist. that would have given the show a gut punch for ages to come, if sombra became evil out of kindness and selflessness, because he knew if the world didn't have a villain then the good of ponies can't exist.
@Bloody Dragon I'm pretty sure that isn't canon. That comic from what I've heard (don't quote me on this) takes place before season 9, and an season 9 he's clearly evil
@Madilynn you tell me what happened between that comic and season nine cause the last time I checked he was reformed also the comics link on to the actual show don't believe me I can name a few that do
@Bloody Dragon uh... Season 9 spoilers just in case even tho notifications are bad
In season 9 premiere he came back as a villain?? So unless this took place after he was defeated in season 9 its probably not canon due to the show contradicting it
@Madilynn one the comics are cannon I can name 8 that link on with the show 2 either the people running the show forgot or didn't care cause it was the last season
@Bloody Dragon The comics I say lean more towards semi-canon. Take Fiendship is Magic for instance. Both the show the comic show different origin stories as to how the Sirens got banished into the world of Equestria Girls. In the comic, King Sombra reformed. But in the show, he got destroyed a second time. In the comic, Sunset’s origin story included a different version of Moondancer. Meaning that the comic storyline isn’t at all connected to the show storyline.
@IceFlower413 // BUGFlower413 Not really all you would have to do is make a circle and a m on it and BOOM he would return but there must be a key to reform him
The changelings remind me a lot of the Rainwings because the changelings started out as tough and sorta feared. They can also shapeshift. That reminds me of the old Rainwings because the Rainwings used to be feared, and can change the color of their scales.
I don't know the reason why the Rainwings abandoned their ways, but now Rainwings are these chill dudes who eat fruit which is pretty cool, and changelings are now these chill dudes.
I also see the similarties between these to species (Rainwings and Changelings are from different franchise's though) because they both have bright colors and have like a connection to nature in some way sort of
You've got some interesting ideas on this topic, Sawtooth. Thanks for sharing this with us! ^_^ Pharynx and Chrysalis do seem like they could get along, though I'm not sure how Pharynx would feel about the former queen trying to drain his brother. I'm surprised that the renegade changelings didn't seek out Chrysalis or vice versa. I guess Chrysalis didn't want to get caught, and the renegades didn't want to go too far from home. Still, it might have made for an interesting story if Chrysalis and Thorax were both trying to sway some renegade changelings to their side and a pre-reform Pharynx chose Thorax after Chrysalis tried to hurt him. Pharynx would agree to return to the hive but refuse to become "reformed", leading to the events of "To Change a Changeling". I wonder why Chrysalis is the only changeling with hair and a pony-like eye design instead of the neck fins and jewel-like eyes most changelings have. Thorax's eyes stayed mostly the same aside from the coloring when he transformed into a changeling king. Hmm…
Plus film and flam, the washout’s, that one character that was controlling Rara, Svengallop, that one character that was facing off with rarity in a faction show where she lost by hotel materials, that dragon who tryed to be spike’s parent (Sludge i think?). Wind Rider and a few others that may or may not watch this video and give a dislike.
Cant discord just use his magic to cast a protection spell on them which prevents them from doing anything evil and then release them so they could find out how beneficial friendship is on their own?
Well if I had any doubt that my love for this series had ebbed or dissipated whatsoever me getting emotional over the telling of Chrysalis meeting and fighting Phalanx only to see the truth, have her eyes open, and willingly reform put that to rest. I'm still a brony, through and through, and I can still get emotional over pastel colored horses, god I'd kill to have this exact plot be a fic I could read on FiMfiction.
Hmm... that makes since... wow. I mean mlp already had a pretty good grasp on lessons about parents or lack of ((haha scootalo until she got her parents tempted bacc)) but this would be really interesting...
@Miniş Dünyası
when in the first episode of season 9 cozy glow made a statuette of her friendship with tirek, but from the representation of their friendship it seemed to me that she saw him more as a father than as a friend
@R Actually, her cutie mark is a piece from the game Chess. This probably means the she is very smart and plays her moves very stragically, without anyone even noticing what's happening. Her cutie mark proves that she has a clever mind and knows what to do and when to do it.
Shes a queen bee or queen aunt. Young queens either leav3 wyth a small starter hyve or are kylled. Synce she obvi wasnt kylled, that means there are other changling hyves out there... Und changling hyves out there... Just waiting 2 stryke all the new civalizations full of love.. even some gryffins r freinds, gabby and rainbows freind whos name i forgot but ill remeber soon.
I think the one thing Cozy glow needs was friends but maybe something happened when she took it the wrong way of it begin power. One quote she said is.. (Correct me if im wrong) "Then I'll have more friends than you!" Then after begin imprisoned in Tartus. She even still tried making friends with Tirek.
Maybe her parents sent her to the school of friendship because they knew that she could live there and forgot about or she was sent to the school of friendship because she was lonely and sad. Because her parents died before she went there and she believes that you need the power to be happy because no one was there for her so yea that's all I got
Miniş Dünyası Chessmaster. She’s a chess piece, the rook is a chess piece that’s practically useless in the beginning of chess and just “under the radar”. Only when the board gets emptier the rook begins to matter more as it’s able to move vertically and horizontally, can go from one extreme of the board to another—it’s very used in endgames for Checkmates.
Fatd0gg0 she said “You might be the Princess of Friendship, but as headmare of this school, I can collect even more friends than you!” She seems to think of friends as collectibles
Miniş Dünyası I think it’s the queen or rook in chess, meaning that she plays everyone to doing her bidding. Everyone is her pawn to be sacrificed so she can win.
Awesome Geek I thought they had a good grasp on parents but then they made that episode with Scootaloos parents who are a few of the worst parents I’ve seen in a kids show painted to be good
I always think off that! Like how in eQeStRia did the show not at least have like one line about Cozy clow's mom or dad! (Also she is my favoritt vilan)
I thought they were clear that she came from some parallel universe where there was no magic. We don't know if she's even a pony where she's from. Since the multiverse was part of the original series plans and seems to be working into G4.5, I suspect she's an underdeveloped bridge to that.
@Miniş Dünyası its of a rook piece from chess. Not as low as a pawn, however not as important as a queen. She has always been sort of the "sidekick" and barely seen as an equal in the eyes of the other villains. From what I've seen, she is simultaneously really good at raising up her "friends" but also craves power.
@Miniş Dünyası It's a chess piece. She's a manipulator. It's about how she is constantly strategizing and moving pieces around on her board. Everything she does is a means to an end. That child is definitely some Antisocial Personality Disorder mess.
@Miniş Dünyası Its a chess piece which means she's good at calculating problems, predictions, and manipulating. She is good at controlling people. She is the player and everyone else is her pawn.
I was thinking about this the other night, and kind of came up with the thought that Cozy Glow’s parents are neglectful of her, to the point that she decided to do something drastic to prove herself worthy of her parents love
@Miniş Dünyası It's not a quote, abuse is something I've went through and deal with still at times of my life. I'm not "cold", I'm a quite caring person but I know how to disconnect from my emotions and the world, that's why I put "cold" in quotations
Here's Cozy Glow's backstory. WARNING: Hits hard in the feels. Cozy Glow had parents that were abusive, both physically and verbally. She endured constant mistreatment. She was never appreciated. She never felt loved. One day, her parents were diagnosed with cancer. It was incurable, even with magic. They died and never told her the words every child longs to hear- "I love you." But rather "You don't deserve friendship." Having taken their cruel words, Cozy Glow believed she wasn't worthy of having friends. She never knew kindness. She only felt abuse. It came to the point she contemplated ending her life.😿Prepare for anime tears and full ugly crying.
im so mad about the treatment of changelings in mlp. first they were stripped of all their interesting traits (two-pitched voices, and especially their hive biology – thorax and pharynx are called brothers even though all of the hive should be siblings, and generally the whole hive gimmick gets abandoned pretty quick and just serves to mean 'changeling country), then chrysalis was denied chance at redemption even though realistically she was the most likely villain to be redeemed, being driven by entirely unselfish motivations; and THEN once the remaining changelings got reformed they got prettyfied because god forbid something benign look scary on the surface 🙄🙄 i love mlp but ill always be mad about the changeling thing.
honestly, you should totally do a reform vid about Sombra, sure he died but it's been shown that he can come back even easier than the three, it would be nice to see how you would work your King Cobalt headcanon into his reformation.
Before today I never realized how fascinating the original changeling culture were!! They cared for others in the hive and obeyed completely to the queen and relentlessly devour everything else…😍😍sounds evil but at the same time so attractive!!
I like the idea of reforming Chrysalis! I honestly think Chrysalis’s reformed form and original form will be combined so that way Chrysalis can learn the new ways rom Thorax!
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Lady Almathea2022-05-19 17:45:54 (edited 2022-05-19 17:55:29 )
As I commented in one of Silverquill's videos about villains, I feel like there's a possible return of not only Chysalis, but Cozy Glow and Tirek in G5. After all, prisoners in statues don't exactly age while in their encased state, so perhaps the new mane 5 , or possibly a rouge pony (or creature), will one day find the lost statue of the old villain and somehow manage to revive them. After all, this wouldn't be the first time a villain would be awoken from their petrified slumber, so it wouldn't be out of the question. I feel like if anyone can be able to at least try to convince the old villains to reform and start anew, it could be Sunny or perhaps even Izzy.
Yeah, of the 3, she does have some part of her physic that one could delve into in order to help her stop being straight out evil. maybe without the hunger she'd become a more benevolent leader, if not stern in her leadership.
Cozy I think though would be the easiest to handle since she literally has no magic beyond flight. One could take her and have in depth physiological study on her and then be able to teach her where she completely failed on friendship. That's her biggest problem is despite going to that school and excelling (if wasn't all cheated), she truely did not understand anything that was taught. The last guy is bit more difficult... Means he consumes magic and gets stronger, they'd need Discord for sure to watch over. T-reck also doesn't seem to even have a soft side, let alone care for anyone in their world. He's fully self consumed and isn't scared to utterly destroy everything for sake of himself becoming all powerful. If anyone was to be left stone, it's him. Maybe even just go safe side and crush into dust :P
If anyone can reform these three it's definitely Saw tooth, but just be careful when doing it, and probably keep a good distance from tirek since he might try to drain your magic if your too close to him so probably best to try and get to him last once you've reformed the other two first, Love the videos and hope you keep making them
Your going to have to use some spell that prevents him from draining magic and getting back to his villainous ways. Then we can begin the process of reforming him. As we saw in the second to last episode, Tirek just wanted to please his father. If we can convince him that pleasing his father wasn't his goal or maybe something like that, then maybe it'll be enough to reform him. The motivation behind his actions is getting praise from his father, if we can give him a feeling that he doesn't need to make his dad proud of him and that he can still be appreciated by others, then he'll no longer have to look to the dark side.
Maybe have Discord remove Tirek's power source: his horns, same with chrysalis' horns and for cozy... keep her guarded by the cmc and remove her wings (cozy would not age due to being stone and the cmc are adults assuming this takes place after the time skip of the last episode of G4)
@Mathew Watson It may take some time to do the reformation for Tirek though, he may still be spiteful towards Scorpan, and it may take a lot of counselling to finally get him to reform, but it still is possible, we just have to put in more effort. Cozy, I have no idea how. We weren't given much information about her, her past is really vague. The only thing that was taken into account was that she believes friendship isn't important. Maybe she made friends before but was backstabbed by them which led her to despising friendship?
You are actually right so if i were you stay away from tirek because i don't want to say this but he could actually trick you and why didn't you tackle cozy glow you know first she is weaker than them
I actually think it would be beneficial to do cozy last- as long as she thinks she still has support in being evil she will keep at it, even at the start she was in contact with tirek- if tirek reforms she might just reform with him.
@Krissy_ ᖴᗩᑎᗪOᗰ_GIᖇᒪ yeah that could work but they might argue or mess up his office so probably best to put magic proof artifacts to prevent those two from using magic just to be on the safe side
what I would love to see is anyone of them (changelings culture could be extremly intersting) reforming but without any visual aspects to it. They would still have the same old appearance but without all the violence in their behaviour. Maybe they could even try living along the ponies.
I always wanted to see Chrysalis reformed. Now I take it as my personal headcannon. And NOT because I see Chrysalis hot af. Nope. Not at all. NOT AT ALL!! That's the official version, and I'll stick to it.
Whenever a princess is in her element she gets her flowing mane. For, example at cadence’s wedding when her and shining armor made the heart her hair was flowing. In the second part of twilight’s kingdom when twilight takes in the magic of all four alicorns she gets a flowing mane. It’s the same later when she tries to raise the sun. Luna and Celestia’s manes are always flowing because I think if a princess does a final accomplishment her mane stays flowing. I think this happened when Twilight decided to have her friends rule with her. Maybe Celestia’s happened when she learned to raise the sun and Luna when she learned to raise the moon.
Yeah, but I hypothesize that chrysalis was a alicorn. Just watch Discords daughter:the movie and you will understand this part: Chrysalis used magic and took out her heart, but now she feeds off of love from ponies. So maybe she was an alicorn, but turned into what she is now? And that is the end of my theries
@Mjae Gacha Bride of Discord and Daughter of Discord are fanfictions that were turned into fanmade audio dramas. They're not canon, and have no place in talking about theories about the actual canon.
But when Luna came back from the moon in season one she didnt have a flowing mane for some reason and that was when she already learnt to raise the moon
When the sisters lost their magic their mane stopped flowing, but not sparkling. But when Luna became Luna after being night mare moon so long her mane wasn't flowing or sparkling.
The true flowing mane is when a pony has lots of magic. Celestia and Luna have a lot of magic and when they gave it to twilight with Cadence, she raised the sun her mane was flowing because she was using a lot of power and had it. I know it went back when she still had it and her mane was still but that’s because she didn’t have her own magic. As for cadence, she and shining armor had the power of love which is almost as much as the magic of friendship and when she used it, her mane flowed just like Twilights. But Cadence’s magic then didn’t flow because Shining armor gave her strength aswell and that’s why when she used it her mane flowed.
But still, good idea! I love the creativity. Honestly, the mane flowing has a lot of reasons so no one is right or wrong.
My theory is when an alicorn gets to a certain age, their magic reaches its peak. And the energy is so powerful that it makes their own mane flow with the magical energy. I wanted to make a sorta comedic story about this with each princess. Flurry heart will be the hardest.
I can understand why Thorax would be seen as a threat to her and the other changelings cultural identity, and the point of the video was about how she could be reformed, however, there is one thing I find interesting about how the changelings have exchanged their culture more easily. Their culture drastically changed because they were becoming a new and they likely didn't care much to keep the old one because of how they starved and suffered in it, so now they probably wanted a new identity to leave behind the old one, and pony culture was the closest and seemingly desirable option. Having guards and an army was one of the things they should have kept in their culture, but have associated it with their hive queen too closely; so what other important or unique parts of the original culture that could have been admired were discarded in their haste for love and change?
Yeah Chrysalis didn’t even accept it when Starlight tried to help her after her hive was destroyed, this is a great and very smart Sawtooth video, he probably had to do a lot of thinking to get these done, and the effort he puts into these videos, wow!
Also I know why chrysalis is like this because she wants love 💕 for her hive but if she is nice 👍 she can get love 💕 for her hive from herself or something and after all she did for them they Abandon her! That’s why she’s so unhappy with it
I will admit, when I was a lot younger, the Queen Chrysalis transformation sequence scared the piss out of me. I don't know why, it may have been the eyes in that scene? It just scared me so much. I can watch it with no problem now, and I won't lie, Chrysalis was an interesting character to me. I even went as far as to own the toy. XD
The funniest thing about me watching these videos is that the last time I watched MLP was when I was 4 and remember nothing, and yet here I am, invested in these theories while only partially understanding them.
Honestly, i never knew why people keep making Chrysalis's reformed form blue and green and such. If anything, i would've made her the opposite colors, which is basically just a coral color and a light grey.
I just realized something, is it possible that since Twilight saw how diverse Equestria has become, stop the alicorn tradition of being the rulers of Equestria then set up a council to rule over equestria? And is it possible over the years the 3 stoned villains were released just like discord and they were the ones who separated the 3 pony tribes as well as raising tensions between species? It would kind of explain what happened to g5
Edit; Main problem with this theory is that the villains are nowhere to be seen, and I have a theory for that but all of this is speculation; maybe they were defeated by the other species since they also have friendships and can use the power of friendship, and the crystals could be the gift of those species before they defeated the villains to help them defend against the villains and maybe even reunite them, there's also the problem with the magic, if I think of something I will edit this comment again.
"Make them choose between friendship and tyranny" Bruh, Cozy's entire philosophy is that they're the same thing. But like Discord, if she grows to care about somebody else enough to not want to do anything that'll hurt them, there's a chance.
By the way that you are talking,it seems like there is not much hope. To get Cozy to see that Friendship and Tyranny aren't actually the same things. That they are in reality different and that she has just gotten them both VERY badly confused with one another somehow.
@ShadowWolf 909 discord didnt try to kill them given his Powers he can just think of it and the entire Equestria is Toast all he did was to change their personalities in the oposite of who they wore Still wrong but nowhere near killing all he ever did as a "villain" was to have a very twisted version of the word "Fun".. Cozy on the other hand..well her entire plan involved around getting rid of any threat
Cozy: Have Diamond Tiara share her personal experience of how manipulating ponies for power didn’t make her happy.
Tirek: Make him sit down with Scorpan. Let Tirek share how he felt from his brother’s betrayal, and let Scorpan share his empathy with ponykind. Maybe tackle Tirek’s dad issues.
This is probably Cozy Glow's backstory. WARNING: Hits hard in the feels. Cozy Glow's parents were abusive, physically and verbally. Then one day they were diagnosed with cancer. It was incurable, even with magic. (I'm not sure if they have magic that cures cancer. Probably not.) They died and never said the words every child longs to hear- "I love you." She took their cruelty to heart. She never felt loved. She never had a true friend. She never knew love. She only knew abuse and hatred. She inflicted that abuse on others. She longed for affection, but all she received was abuse to the point she wanted it to end. She thought about ending her life.😿 Prepare for anime tears and full ugly crying.
Whenever I see something like this, especially the transformed Chrysalis from the thumbnail, I can only think of the lines from Scary Movie 3: Chrysalis (transformed): "Thank you all. Your love has broken the curse and freed my soul. I'll never have to kill again." Mane Six: "Really?" Chrysalis (normal): "Nah, I'm just screwing with ya" Commences another Changeling Invasion of Canterlot
thank you. i always thought there was something wrong with the way the changelings are now. i didn't know what it was, but now i see that they, as a newly reformed empire, turned to the cuddliness of pony life, losing all of their fierceness and a lot of their sense of pride in their empire.
Luckily, I think the changelings are getting better about that. At the end of To Change a Changeling, they agree that they've been too soft and ask Pharynx to help them rediscover their tougher side, and I figure that's probably going well.
The problem with Chrysalis is she's too power hungry. Starlight tried to convince her she can be a good ruler by embracing love and not taking it from others. But she wants to rule by force, even if it means keeping the hunger the rest of the hive managed to beat. Honestly, she's the kind of villain you can't reform without hurting her. She has to suffer to fully understand why her ambitions and rejection of friendship is wrong. I think if Tirek and Cozy had run off with her magic, leaving her weak and helpless on the mountain until some compassionate pony came to help her, that would have done it.
If they were to be reformed, I feel like instead of celestia or twilight taking them out of their stone imprisonment, it would be Princess Flurry Heart, probably in her teens like 15. Since she is rumored to be the princess of light, and naturally being the daughter of cadence, she would have more kindness, trust, and forgiveness then twilight would, especially since all three of the villains have made worse damage then other villains. Twilight most likely would want to keep them in stone forever instead of taking the chance, except for our powerful light hearted alicorn princess of light. Most likely she would take precautions and use a spell to make it so chrysalis and terik cant use their power while she attempts to reform them. I imagine that they would play along, waiting to earn her trust and then backstab her. But perhaps slowly she would get a bond with each of them, like fluttershy and discord had.
I really want to see that but with a different ending. I want to see reformed Chrysalis make herself a NEW hive. Basically, in bees, if the hive is overpopulated, the queen can fake dying and the bees would chose who would be the next queen. With that, the queen can run away with half of the hive and creat a new colony.
I really want to see Chrysalis making a new hive with changeling that doesn't want to just copy ponies. Making herself legends, stories to make the changelings different from the ponies but in a respectful way, like not saying that ponies destroyed her hive but made her realized that her tyranny had to stop and letting place to new hives, like hers or Thorax's one.
You know how Cadence used her horn to make two ponies share love for each other in twilight’s flashback? If Cadence does that to Queen Chrysalis she’s be SHARING LOVE which would cause her to turn colorful and not be hungry. Although this would be a little harsh on her I think It would work out in the end
This would be interesting, although i think these three villans are meant to represent those who have done bad things and wont change, as much as some would want to help them, there are those who you cannot help. I just find this ironic. Starlight believed Twilight destroyed all her work since Starlight believed she "built" the perfect community, (which was a chain reaction from her choice in the past). Even though Starlight was dead set on getting her revenge, in the end she realised what she did was wrong. Than there is Chrysalis; In her eyes Starlight destroyed what she had created and also was dead set on revenge just as Starlight was towards Twilight. Even with i guess a hoof out for Chrysalis was to help her, she refused. In s9, even though she could still change, she didn't move from her plan to take out Starlight.
When she said that quote, she said "I watched it happen to the hive and I don't want it to happen to me." That means she had a strong bond with the hive.And she was sad she lost her family\hive.
She lost her position of power and her servants. If she really had that strong bond she would have accepted Starlight's offer. But she wouldn't have been ruler of the hive, she'd be leader. And to despots that's a big difference.
@azamonra at her defense it looked more like ponies conquering her hive more than helping and like a brainwash from Starlight from her point of view =^
Like bees and ants, there’s drone insects that are bred to mate with the Queen in order for her to lay eggs. In bees, the males die after wards so it’s not like there’s a parent dynamic with the new eggs, just to pass on a generation and keep their Hive alive.
@azamonra More like she thinks its really not good with what happened to her hive(I mean.. they turned into skittle bugs and "Feelings Forums" crap we saw in To Change A Changeling). They need to touch on why is Chrysalis so stubborn to reform. Having her just be stubborn/prideful for the sake of that is just disappointing. Having her be evil for the sake of being evil is just bland.
I have a question, can a regular changling (not just the queen) use magic if they turn into an alicorn? And can they breathe fire as a dragon? What if a changling turns into a baby pony and stays that way for a pong time, would they grow into an adult pony or be an elderly changling??
I honestly wish they would make another season and focus on the villains lol Edit: ok where did those 1674 likes come from..? Yeah, I'm liking my own comments cause why not- I never had that many before 🥺thank you
Actually, that's kinda already been done with the Fiendship is Magic comic arc. Now I can see why my friend Alice prefers villains to heroes, King Sombra’s backstory is incredible
And revealing, I thought he was turned evil by the Alicorn Amulet (after building it) for so long
What I think is that they should atleast put more happiness in life for them when they are villians They probably suffered through a lot to become like that I feel so bad for them
Well, we need Hasbro to understand that the 4th generation was the best one and bring it back so they can continue with the storyline and cover topics that they missed
well,we have to make an agreement with queen Chrysalis,as long as she agrees for example “Queen Chrysalis,if you reform then you’re colony is going to be infinitely stronger and you can get the love,especially from king Sombra, but drain from him and not from ponies “!;) :D
I think you can’t learn a lesson without being exposed to the experience. So I think we should do what you said, but also encourage her to attack. Start giving them ideas by talking about reformed changlings and how they are trying to be like ponies, and try to get Chrysalis to attack them. Spy on her, and when she gets free, everything will be ready. They try to convince her friendship isn’t weakness, but if it doesn’t work discord will be waiting around the corner ready to turn her back to stone. Because you can tell chrysalis that changlings are strong, but she won’t believe it without seeing them in action.
I prefer Discord not being ready to turn her back to stone if it doesn't work. Like its basically having a gun secretly aimed behind her head and if she doesn't act like they want her to, BANG. In fact Discord shouldn't be allowed anywhere near her since its HIS fault she(and the other 2) ended up freaking worse, his dumb plan got them to be worse.
@Fresh2000 ZCORD No, keep him the hell away from her. His dumb plan is what caused her to end up being worse. And the fact he could have easily find her at any time and help her but instead she was left out there going crazy and instead of giving her help while she was in that broken state, he freaking tried to use her as a disposable pawn. He will just make things worse or cause some issues.
@night shroud96 they ended up worse because of there own actions they were already evil and would have taken over Equestria anyways as they have done it before, also discord showed remorse for his actions and put himself in danger to help save EQ. Your also forgetting his plan came from a good place of trying to help twilight be a good leader he is capable of being good hes just a spirit of chaos but he can learn
@Fresh2000 ZCORD His dumb plan caused them to be worse. Period. If he kept his damn claws off of them, they wouldn't go off the deep end further. Pointing them to a dangerous weapon, essentially threatening them around to make them work together(and them interacting causing their behavior to be influenced to be even worse), essentially encouraging them to be bad like that, his plan caused all of this. Even if this still their free-will, its Discord who caused them go off further for what his actions had done to them intentionally. Like intending on using them as threats to sic on Twilight to "boost" her confidence. It doesn't freaking matter if he had good intentions, his plan caused serious issues and its still horrible. His logic of thinking its ok to use anyone at all as pawns(villains or not) to send to their demises is something pre-reform Discord would do. Discord needs it hammered into his head that its never ok to use anyone as disposable pawn, PERIOD. Discord freeing the other heroes is a start, but its not enough to make up for what his plan had done. There's alot of damage in there.
@night shroud96 saying discord caused them to become more evil is a massive amounts of headcanon that isn't true. Considering the things they have done on their own for power to dominate and enslave Equestria even before season 9, considering the bad alternate futures where chrysalis has everyone at war and tirek is destroying everything. Im not saying discord is a saint but he simply didn't think things through and wanted to help his friends. The trio ultimately choose by chrysalis own words that they refuse to change despite knowing how great friendship could be.
If Tirek, Cozy Glow & Chrysalis were human at when they NEARLY became reformed: talking about positive stuff Chrysalis: ARGHH! Cozy Glow: Who am I kidding!? Power is better than friendship! Tirek: I will not stop until I get respect from Vorak!
Heres a thought. Discord was actually working with Celestia the entire time to prepare Twilght for her eventual ascension. 1. He never attacked Canterlot or Celestia when he first escaped. 2. When Twilight went grey, he actually looked a little worried to me. And somehow Celestia knew to send all those freindship lessons after he vanished. 3. He pretty much addmitted it in the final episodes that he staged alot of her toughest challenges to build her up. Seems to me that he made a deal that as long as Twilight was challenged, he would be free to do whatever chaos was necessary.
Though his plan in season 9 would damage her and Luna's reputations big. Really.. Celestia having Twilight be her replacement is really at the expense of Luna there.
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R F2020-11-10 00:38:44 (edited 2020-11-10 00:39:09 )
@night shroud96 The entire plan in season 9 revealed he had been behind everything from the moment of his release. Even though Celestia released him to just test Twilight, Discord being Discord, just took it chaotically beyond what was originally intended. The escalation of the original purpose until it blows up in everyone's faces would be well in scope of Discord's past behaviors.
@R F That makes no freaking sense. Luna worked her ass off to improve her image and reconnect with the ponies. It would be pointless if it turns out she wants to retire from the start and the fact she isn't going to rule for much long. She clearly enjoyed her job and she clearly enjoyed ruling there.
@night shroud96 It was a diarchy. If Celestia chose her successor and stepped down, there was no reason Luna had to step down as well. Unless she wanted to do so.
@R F Unless Luna basically had no choice due to she would be separated from Celestia. Which is really bad too since it makes Celestia look pretty selfish since Luna is basically forced to give up her throne/crown/moon/destiny if she doesn't want to be separated from Celestia. Celestia really didn't take into account about Luna there. There really could have been a compromise for Luna to continue ruling while still being with Celestia(who has retired). But nope, the writers brushed that aside for the sake of Twilight due to her being the "chosen one".
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R F2020-11-10 01:56:28 (edited 2020-11-10 01:57:11 )
@night shroud96 I'm assuming she left voluntarily. Running a country is a very time consuming and stressful job. She probably could have lost interest after the episode of switching cutie marks with her sister and realizing that hanging out with nobility actually sucks. Most rulers are actually historically content with retirement because they actually don't have to be in charge of anything or anyone but themselves.
@R F That would be a awful sendoff to Luna's character though that she couldn't handle ruling as anywhere near as long as Celestia did. Like I said, she didn't rule for much long and the fact if she thinks she is tired of ruling then it renders her attempt to fix her public image and reconnect to the ponies pointless. Luna can't just suddenly feel like she lose interest in ruling like that.
@night shroud96 Which brings us back to the point of conspiracy theories like the Discord and Celestia partnership. Even though it is a cartoon, there are a lot of plotholes in mlp. The only advice that I can give is to think up an answer for yourself that both answers your question and makes her ending a happy one. Then spread it like crazy till all bronies consider it canon. Lol
5:11 This design doesn't fit her then. Since she looks too soft and coddly, unlike Pharynx who looks more intimidating. Her new design should look more closely to Pharynx
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Mary Y2020-08-14 13:21:11 (edited 2020-08-14 13:27:14 )
I like that you're going in depth with this - and I'm hoping you could answer question of mine! (It's fine if you don't and if you've already got a video pertinent could you please refer me to it?) Do you find it at all disturbing how Human Flash and Pony Twilight substitute each other for the counter part of each? Pony Twilight gets a crush on Pony Flash at first meeting him because of her feelings for Human Flash. Isn't that just emotional displacement? Pony Flash and Human Flash are two different people and substituting one for the other is like falling in love with one twin only to go to the second when the first disappears just because they're similar. Human Flash never saw Pony Twilight as a princess, just as a girl that he liked. Pony Flash was very aware of her being a princess and that certainly affects how he sees her and interacts with her. So the very basis of their personalities and views are wildly different. Likewise Pony Twilight is different from Human Twilight. Just because they are counterparts do not make them clones. The fact that both are shown to be transferring at least some affection to the counterpart seems unhealthy to promote in a show. What do you think? PS: I haven't seen much of the show, so my view might be a bit behind if I've missed a huge development, but I'd like your opinion. PPS: I do get that they're different species, but I think a person is defined by their personalities more than any perception of "race". Relationships on the show seem to not care as much as us real-world people, and with magic it would be solvable. I understand that there are barriers, but a good relationship is worth working and sacrificing for... so why does the show have them both seem to give it up without almost any fight?
A good theory, but keep in mind that technically, Starlight and her troupe put up a similar fight with friendship as well. Sure, it was more covert, but they still used their friendship to take the, quote unquote, "fierceness" away from the changelings. While technically not the best reason to hold a grudge against "friendship," the simple fact that friendship was the first thing that took away the thing that Chrysalis was proud of, definitely complicates matters slightly more than in the video. Another thing to note is that while yes, pony colonialism and friendship are not technically connected, the fact that the element bearers, Pillars, and the two people who freakin' raise the sun and moon all have used the magic of friendship in the past certainly pins more of a connection between the two than might be expected.
While the strategy of the video could work, I have a feeling that Chrysalis wouldn't be too phased unless Pharynx AND Thorax personally convinced her otherwise. Why? Because, Thorax is the example of "not afraid to defend, even though friendship is his whole shtick now." Seeing Thorax also stick up for himself as opposed to on the sidelines, like in the finale, wouldn't hurt in the slightest.
Also...Chrysalis wouldn't be as easy as you think. In fact, counting the comics as canon, she's come back, on at least three different occasions to try and take revenge. Sure, we have Discord, but if he goes down... I'd be afraid of what happens next. Very afraid. Especially since he'd also be in charge of keeping the other two villains in check, including the one that stole his magic...
Chrysalis is cloaked in "Care and Compassion" for her hive but the MOMENT throax turned and didnt need to rip love out for hungry, Chrysalis lost it and doubled down. Chrysalis wants to be in Control no matter what and given a chance to change her malice burnt up the cloak to show her hostile nature. You got a better chance with Tirek over Chrysalis who malice would need pure extermination before even attempts would break through her shell.
The way to reform chrysalis is to bring pharynx thorax brother He used to think that friendship was all about cuteness and hugs but the hive proved him wrong and showed him that friendship is not only about hugs they showed that friend's help each other and without a friend life is more harder and he could show chrysalis and she could rule the hive again
There is one problem Chrysalis can still steal love maybe even from the new Hive and Tirek can still take magic from ponies and other creatures so they can do that
Sawtooth im a pony fan and have been for the past 10 years! I KNOW a possible season 10- maybe more seasons! I would LOVE that and so would others (im not 100% sure if this would be good or bad but it dosnt have to be all good or all bad right?) also I REALLY hope Lauren Faust brings back MLP!
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N. Colt2021-02-16 20:55:18 (edited 2021-02-16 22:19:24 )
I think you're focusing too much on Chrysalis's thoughts on the changelings and trying too hard to make her character match Pharynx. It's true that Pharynx is similar to Chrysalis in cold demeanor, but Pharynx always cared about the hive and its strength, while Chrysalis had six solid appearances of being a tyrannical, selfish lunatic who treats her followers like extensions of her will and boasts no defensible evidence that she ever, at any point, gave a single f*ck about the changelings or their culture past their use to her as tools. About the only time she ever expressed remote 'concern' was when she first said to Celestia, 'it is my job to find food for my subjects', in Canterlot Wedding. Unfortunately, this is dubious evidence at best, because 'finding the changelings food' is synonymous with 'I get to remain in power'. In retrospect from the S6 finale and beyond, it's obvious that her focus was on herself when she said this, not on the changelings.
Unlike a lot of the other villains on this show, I'd classify her behavior as the best example of being truly psychotic. When she lost her power she grew deranged and mad, creating stumps to bark her frustrations and orders at, instead. When she was in charge, she seemingly never even tried to find the changelings a better way of life than to eternally feel starved, since, according to Thorax, changelings were always hungry. Instead, I believe Chrysalis opted to use that eternal hunger as a carrot on the metaphorical stick, keeping the changelings desperate and ready to conquer nations for her. Starlight directly challenged this hunger conundrum by telling Chrysalis that there was a better way, and Chrysalis's only response was that it was her decision how to treat the changelings, not Starlight's.
She denounced the mere concept of friendship twice not because she didn't like how weak the changelings became, but because the very idea of friendship and unity undermines her insecure need for power and control on a level that goes far beyond what any other villain had.
You talked about how Fluttershy made Discord choose between tyranny and friendship. Discord wanted attention more than actually being a tyrant in charge of everyone, so he opted for friendship because he could get attention through friendship. This is supported by the fact that he never forced ponies to directly obey him, even when chaos was swept along the land, pranking some while deharmonzing others. As long as the world was chaos he didn't really care one way or the other about what happened to the inhabitants or what they did. Chrysalis doesn't want attention, she just wants to be in control. There's no argument from canonical evidence alone that suggests she would ever want anything else, which means she will always, ultimately choose tyranny.
That aside, assuming redemption is possible, the only way she could be redeemed in a way that didn't feel shoehorned is if she redeemed over the course of an entire show, like Regina, aka the Evil Queen did on Once Upon a Time. Regina started off as a malicious b*tch, and it took her numerous seasons to go from vile villain to anti-hero. She never became a rule-following good guy, in fact, she never really became that pleasant, but she got to a point of being able to co-exist with the good guys and that was enough. I think that's the very best you could ever hope for from Chrysalis.
If Celestia can turn into Daybreaker and Luna can turn into Nightmare moon, then MAYBE Chrysalis was the lost Crystal Princess before she became a changeling.
My theory is that maybe something happend between Chrysalis and Sombra leading to a war between them both and after a while she found out that Sombra became corrupt because of their argument.
Falling into deep regret then she lost her sanity and became a changeling just like how Luna became Nightmare moon, she knew she needed help to turn back but she didnt know how.
She returned to her kingdom and nobody can recognize her because of the holes on her body, everypony feared her they would run away everytime she would step into the kingdom,
Because of fear she lost every ounce of love inside her and it drew her mad and sad, she wanted that love that she had before and she wanted everypony to care for her again.
She decided to seek for revenge after to find out she was replaced by cadence and it drew her even more mad, she couldn't defeat the new Princess without the love, because of the love of the Crystal ponies it made her strong and powerfull but without it she is weak.
She needed to find a way to help herself, so she decided to turn her backs on the kingdom she onced love and take everything back especially the love she needed.
Or maybe she was Princess Amore ( The first ruler of The Crystal Empire) and she also had a big past with Sombra
I would absolutely love to see Chrysalis story we knew nothing about her?!
@Soft Wax on one hand yes, on the other i've seen some weird yet firmly standing sculptures before... Probably depends on what kind of stone they're made of
i think reforming Chrysalis might be a little more complicated than that, but also i think it could work. i think more like this doesn't change her mind by one day to another, but this could be a start.
A reformed chrysalis would be hella awesome but gotta remember that if u look at life thro her eyes, she’s wasn’t entirely evil, just looking for places that could help feed herself and the hive like any other creature. That thing they feed on just happens to be the love ponies share with one another so it makes her look evil
Ugh I still have so many questions of the "monster" the Young Six defeated, and something happened to the CMC, and Cozy Glow's parents.
Although I might have an answer to Cozy Glow's parents. I mean why is she in a Friendship school unlike a normal school like Ms. Cheerlie's classes. I'm guessing that she was abandoned by her parents and just sent her to this school because of her manipulative behavior. This explains why her parents weren't alerted for her evil actions.
@Some Guy that uses the internet Well that bothers me so much. Luna never got to experience life as much as Celestia did and her losing her immortality makes the dumb retirement stuff worse. Luna didn't get to rule anywhere near as long as Celestia did nor did she enjoyed her destiny much as she did, her having to give up her immortality too just makes this even more worse.
I often wondered if there was a powerful secret villain who was behind all the other villains, someone unseen, working behind the scenes and in the shadow, perhaps one that somehow tied in with previous MLP generations, A major enemy we never knew was even there, perhaps trapped in another dimension and could only manipulate others from there rather than being able to physically get involved...? (I was going to write a story idea on this for a possible film, featuring a villain called Mara Queen of Nightmares, who was once an ordinary Pony who was corrupted by an experimental And potent dark magic spell which turned her into the evilest creature ever in the Pony world, Mara then nearly destroyed what would eventually become Equestria but was defeated and banished by the first and most powerful queen of the Pony world... Majesty, who became the very first Alicorn, their battle seemingly cost her life (although Mara had as the last bit of spite she could muster turned her to stone).... many aeons later, using all the dark power she'd fostered & collected since the recreation of the Pony world (know as now Equestria) she finally escapes to wreak havoc upon everyone and take over, not even the Mane-Six, the princesses or even Discord are strong enough to stop her, their only hope is for Twilight to use her magic of friendship to revive Mara's old enemy...)
When? I only recall they turn him to stone with in that "retcon" 'that blasted arc did with it turns out Cosmos caused that horrible mess and Discord erased their memories and made it look like he did it.
@night shroud96 So,good old Discord taking the blame for something that he did NOT really do? And erasing everybody's memories so that none could prove the contrary/contest that as well? That really does NOT sound like something,that the old "Discord The God Of Chaos" would do to me. That's pretty crazy...... 🤔
@night shroud96 i havent read all of the comic and didnt read them in order, so i didnt remember wich of them are soft canon or non canon. the comic that i know canon are the season 10 comics.
I don't want chrysalis to be reformed, I want her to fly off and just be a minor threat like a bogeyman that strikes rarely and slowly trying to find a new give (hence why she strikes rarely because she wants to get a new hive to try to rule) I know if she gets reformed she's gonna loose alot of what I love about her
Then again I am also the guy who sides with the sith in star wars but this isn't about that but that's just my opinion
You forget that Chrysalis is after Starlight, to get revenge over her for what happened with Thorax and her hive is one thing, but Starlight is still another issue she would have to overcome. And considering how far she is into it, not sure you can truly reform Chrysalis in the end.
Bottom line is that for the series there needed to be concrete villains who never changed their hearts. They can only be reformed in fanfiction and otherwise the story goes on forever and now that it's officially over there is no going back.
Twilight and Celestia would also never release them because they have proven themselves to be true villains and unchangeable.
Out of all 3 Cozy Glow would probably be the easiest to reform, however she is a good liar and she could easily fake reforming and is an opportunist.
Tirek might be the second hardest, he is addicted to power and also does not want to give it up.
And twice Crysalis indeed almost opened up but rejected those alternative feelings.
But again the real reason why they won't ever change is because there needs to be an example that even despite the offers and opportunity of true love and friendship there are simply someponies who won't ever accept it and you can't make them. And you can't force friendship.
This is a really good point and well thought through but my question is where is the statue now in the new generation and where’s discord perhaps after all the mane six had long been gone he lost touch with the pony’s I think that if he was still around he would point the pony’s to friendship like fluttershy did for him but maybe when magic went out he couldn’t get to aquestria but discord doesn’t seem to have the same magic as the pony’s so maybe his magic didn’t go out and he took the statue to his realm but with all that’s going on with all the CHAOS wouldn’t u think the spirit of chaos had something to do with it perhaps without fluttershy and the mane six around he fell back into evil?
Mrs Abbas I can’t understand your comment beyond "who is Chrysalis’ mother" and basically, in many insect colony species (bees, ants, etc) a queen is born from a previous queen (duh) and then leaves that home and quite literally births her own colony. So where is Chrysalis’ mother? Logically, either dead or somewhere off in another land feeding on love.
@CaptainOpvious nowhere did I say they are not her children. You'd be better off finding someone talking about the fact that in the new changeling colony, changelings seem to have 'parents' that are not Queen Chrysalis.
@Mayday Baeday sooo what? An adopted child will call his adoptive parents ''parents'' or maybe after the metamorphosis changelings are dependent. Still all are her children. ;)
The changelings were born from a tree wrapping its roots around a bone. In the comics, Starswirls found the tree and saw the wrapped bone, so he nailed a warning sign on the tree for dark magic. Over time, the hole that the nail was in grew larger, and eventually gave birth to Chrysalis.... and maybe the changelings, idk. I've always bin confused on how queen bugs like ants and bees lay eggs without mating properly, but its a bugs life (not sorry). But when they introduced Pharynx as Thorax's older brother, I got confused. Aren't all of the changelings are siblings. Sure, some even mated with each other but still, didn't they acknowledge their birth?
Hi, I have a idea to make a fanfiction using your 3 villain reforming videos as a planned out summary my character thought of. The story will be about Drananja (my mlp character) discussing the idea with Twilight and equestria's other leaders, Dragon Lord Ember, Prince Rutherford, Queen Novo, King Thorax, Princess Cadence and Shining Armor, Grandpa gruff, and the leader of the Kirin, alongside equestria's other important figures Twilight's friends, Starlight Glimmer, Sunburst, Starswirl and the pillars (and Stigyan), Discord, Spike, and the two characters we'll need to reform them Pharynx and Diamond Tiara (please correct me if I missed a character). I need your approval before I can go even further with this fanfiction, so can I use these videos as an inspiration for my FanFiction (don't worry I'll credit you and the videos at the beginning and the end of the fanfiction)?
You know there’s proof that that’s not a chrysalis really looks like potential into the background and you’ll see a picture of her just being with glasses and really nice and cute
I really like this theory it seams pretty plausible. I think Chrysalis would find herself happy in the role of royal advisor and the link to the past, cultivating traditions and preserving culture of changelings with a small alteration that would fit the reformed hive. I mean it's in the name, Chrysalis is the middle stage of transformation, a link between past and future!
That KSP music at 4:40 suggests that if Chrysalis can't find where she belongs through friendship, she can always take the hive, start a space program, and achieve what no Equinoid has done before...
[OVER G!!!] [OVER G!!!] [OVER G!!!] "I THOUGHT I SAID TO INSTALL THE THRUST LIMITER ON THE BOOSTER!!! THIS IS NOT A THRUST-LIMITED BOOSTER!!!"
i would love to see c hrysalis reformed. she has potential plu8s that reformed look in the video looks pretty and that would be interesting if that would be her canon reformed look.
i think when cozy glow was with Tirek and Chrysalis and Chrysalis start spitting about friendship, i think there's a specific idealogy between Friendship, and "Pony friendship" going on in her head. She definitely correlates ponies with friendship, but i dont think she hates friendship as a whole, since she felt an almost friendship and/or motherly responsibility for taking care of her hive.
Yes I love this chrysalis is my most favorite character and I actually kind of thought about the change of the changelings the same way but it made me look at it differently
I was actually thinking that Pharynx might also be important in this too. Although I was mainly thinking about it when you mentioned that supposed group of unreformed changelings that want to bring their queen back, and what she might think when she learns of a changeling that did prefer how they were before but still preferred to stay with the hive instead of going after her and joining her.
Sawtooth... remember this: The changelings choose to leave the hive so How would Crysallis agree to be reformed then when they abandoned her
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Martin Gray2020-07-19 08:25:27 (edited 2020-07-19 08:28:55 )
I think out of all of them, Tirek was the one who got the closest, mostly because at the time, he could have just left Cozy trapped in the cave, and left Chrysalis drained and unable to stop him and made out like gangbusters. Cozy’s the hardest, because of what she learned about friendship, she could very well fake being reformed, but still be evil. And honestly, I do think chrysalis could definitely be redeemed like you said. She’s kind of in the middle in terms of difficulty, because she is most definitely on edge about that, and would probably be actively against it. I think another thing that could help her would be not seeing it AS “the hated friendship” she’s so against. She might even have several moments when she ends up hiding away alone trying to re-establish that she’s right and the others are wrong... but as you mentioned, she might not be alone there, shed have Discord watching over her and giving her things to think about. In the end, I can definitely see her coming back to her hive, and being a much happier queen.
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Marc Suraci2021-06-01 02:11:54 (edited 2021-06-01 02:12:02 )
Or when Tirek caught a bird with his hands after it fell out of a tree
And plus she does not want her hive to starve to death just like her loving mother would do. A mother would work hard for her child so that there childrens future will be succesful
If she truly loved her hive, she would have let them transform when she found out it meant they would never be hungry again. She loved CONTROLLING her hive; she didn't actually love her hive.
@Kitty25 Control is often mistaken for love. Some control as parents is needed (dont run in the road). What she did was not be a mom but a totalitarian leader- you want food, attack
If she loved her Hive THAT much, she would of embrace the change but at that moment, she realized she would no longer Utterly Control her hive with a Iron Fist. She rather of lose it all instead of losing control and letting her hive embrace no hungry.
I kinda agree with Crysalis. Yeah sure the Changlings did lose their hunger yet also their culture and somewhat power. Before the Changlings were reformed they were hostile yet as well smart beings trying to provide food for themselves (in this case love). They definitely knew how to fight and if the ponies would have had accepted the Changlings then they would look a lot different. Now most of the Changlings ahve become less aggressive and almost weak. Yeah sure with the hunger gone it’s quite good yet it feels like the reformed Changlings have almost lost a part of themselves, like taking away their hunger was ironically enough taking away their power in a way. Don’t get me wrong, some reformed Changlings are still aggressive as before yet that’s barely anything compared to the rest of the hive. Forax feels a bit like a weak leader compared to the mighty Queen Chrysalis who was able to keep the hive mind (mostly) feed and still somewhat thriving, now their weak being who have left behind their culture and their power. I’m sure that the Changlings could have been reformed in a better way, one way or another
I think the video makes a lot of good points. My one beef is that I don't think the Changelings really HAD a culture before Thorax took charge. They were essentially predatory parasites who went around attacking other creatures to steal their love, at least so far as we saw. They had a community of sorts, but it existed by preying on other creatures and didn't seek to make itself sustainable or to make positive contributions to the world. Even Pharynx's guard patrol was more a matter of practicality than an actual cultural aspect.
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Mohd Ghazali2020-11-14 10:03:50 (edited 2020-11-14 10:06:14 )
I don't think Heart's Warming Eve that Changelings celebrated was merely an imitation, it was certainly introduced by Equestria but Changelings have their own interpretation of the celebration. Family came together and it's could also mean as a celebration for Equestria-Changelings strong relation. It's what always happened in our world, most of celebration was brought to another country from another influential country sometimes through the trade. Besides, people often forget that, Thorax never wanted to be a King, he was choose because he stood up for his belief in front of Chrysalis and save his friends. Especially after Chrysalis reject the reformed Changelings or as the fandom wiki site called it's, the Metamorphosis Changelings and their new standpoint on life. He also live for a long time in Crystal Empire, so the influence of the Pony couldn't be help. Remember, Chrysalis called Thorax as traitor, so I think what happened to him was he tried to tell Chrysalis that there's a better way than go to war with their neighbours and make enemies but Chrysalis reject him and called him as a traitor for following what she believes the Pony way of life and banished him from the hive as she mentioned that she didn't even want to hear his name in her hive. (Even Chancellor Neighsay believed that friendship was a pony way of life and culture). You could see this even in our world like how Japanese culture was heavily influenced by Tang China and how Buddhist took a root in Japanese culture despite most local Japanese opposed it at first. Now the culture brought from Tang China have completely integrated into Japanese culture and have developed independently. Even England go through this when they came under Norman and Viking ruler, the impact on English and it's culture could still be seen. The closest example was Philippines, originally Catholic was imposed by forced on the local population by the Spanish but eventually Christianity took root and become a weapon that was eventually used to fought and repelled against the Spanish rules.
Besides, Chrysalis was effectively a dictator that enforced her view and beliefs on her citizens and refused to even listened to any adviced or their problems. She believes she's always right. It's like how our parent forced us their view and planned our life like marriage life. Based on how easily Changelings change their views and standpoint simply by hearing Starlight logic and speech and Thorax determination to save his friends, it seems they just mindlessly followed Chrysalis but not to fond of life under her rules.
First i would cast a spell so she doesnt shoot spells or a shield ao she doesnt cast spells on th hive or something to protect the hive or pharanx so she doesnt attack. We have seen how powerful ahe is. I just want to support sawtooth.
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Max Love2020-10-23 08:37:52 (edited 2020-10-23 08:39:37 )
I mean Chrysalis and Cozy Glow are the most easy to reform. The Hardest ones to reform would be have been King Sombra & Lord Tirek
And is clear the only way is to make them reform one at the time: They need to reform Cozy Glow first because she would be the only pony the others will be willing to listening to.
Note to self: Figure out how to convince that bronies that morality exists independently of friendship. Believe me, I would love to see the characters of be morally correct, without the surrender to christ- I mean "Friendship".
What if Chrysalis became a badass loner, doing good things for the Hive, WITHOUT rejoining it, wouldn't that be cool? A large part of the problems I have with the series, Is this notion that the "Magic of Friendship" is a literal, Physical thing, IN ADDITION to being "Moral concept"
It's boring to see "morals" Approached in such a empty, meaningless way.
I also read a fanfiction about it. I can't remember the title. It was unfinished. Flurry Heart released Cozy and tried to reform her, but she escaped with a plan to free the other two and try to take over Equestria again. She got help from Lil Cheese and Big Mac's kid, because she lied to them. Needless to say, she started liking them along the way...
Edit: It's Cracked open, written by Ghuntz, and it is complete now
@Polina Borodikhina It's on fimfiction, you can find it, if you search for this title: Cracked open. The first one with a picture of the villains as statues will be it.
I honestly believe Starlight Glimmer is the only one who can reform Crysilis. Crysilis just needs to spend time with Starlight and perhaps learn about her story.
It is actually really clever. Celestia & Luna never had the ability to "turn ponies into stone" (that was just a side effect from the Elements of Harmony interacting with a "Spirit"). Discord was in NO POSITION to sugest any punishment (given that he was the responsible for liberating & forcing them to work together against "The ponies of Equestria" ); so he discretely sugested to the sisters: "I would turn them into stone, but you will have to "cover" me. Shoot at the cake!"
@Argamis (SilverComet) I feel like the sisters were too furious to realize its wrong to let Discord decide the trio's fates like that. I mean, on their very last days as rulers they ended up looking like failures again(no, distracting the trio doesn't fix that) and the fact salt is added to the wound about losing their connection to the Elements due to not being included in the final rainbow laser(despite they used the Elements before and their cutie marks were on the tree). Luna has it worse due to her track record looks worse compared to Celestia's due to losing a 1000 years. Those 2 were absolutely furious inside that their emotions blinded them pretty much.
You've missed one vital component of reforming those three. They have to want to be reformed. The best example of what I'm getting at is an addict. You can't force an addict to give up their addiction. If you do they will just go back to it when you're no longer on the scene. They have to hit their rock bottom and realize they not only just need to change their ways but want to change their ways. With those three if you don't convince them that they do in fact want to change they never will.
I'm not even going to touch your Sombra video on how he lost his wings. It's pure conjecture he ever had wings in the first place. Sombra ever having wings is a "what if" fanfiction story more than anything else. I'm not saying that you're wrong to speculate on it but I'm not going to touch that with a 10 foot pole.
I would love to see a My Little Pony movie special showing Chrysalis reforming, becoming friends with Starlight, becoming beautiful. That would be awesome. Also Chrysalis was one of my favorite characters.
I think that the hive should have changed again- there colors should be similar to before and like the dragons keep there culture so they still transform still fight and all they
Thorax did reform the Changeling’s because he took there evil away and took advise from the ponies and use it as an example for the changeling’s he is not coping them
I would offer Queen Chrysalis, Tirek, Cozy Glow, even King Sombra a chance at redemption. Like Optimus Prime I too believe that “Freedom is the Right of All Sentient beings”. But no one can teach the villains the true meaning of friendship it’s a lesson they must learn themselves. Like how the Changelings, Discord, Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, Dragons, the Flim Flam Brothers, Nightmare Moon, Tempest Shadow, Gilda, Snips, Snails, Starlight Glimmer, Sunset Shimmer, & Trixie changed their ways. They must learn to be selfless, compassionate, sympathetic, understanding, optimistic, kind, & friendly.
Discord was basically forced into friendship, although he did have a chance to choose he was basically forced because he didn’t wanna loose something he wouldn’t ever get back. This probably could go the same for cozy, trainwreck and chrysalis.
As in for Chrysalis, she’d probably be the easiest to reform. When she didn’t accept starlight’s [forgot the word] It looked pretty clear that she didn’t wanna leave the hive. In this situation, she’d have to choose to being alone or being along with the hive. Basically how discord got reformed, So it’d be pretty easy to reforming her to do just that. Would take a while tho, you can’t just get a villain like her to sit tight and let others teach her about friendship and not get the chance to destroy the hive while she could.
Cozy glow, hmmm she’d probably be the 2nd easiest. She isn’t interested in friendship at all, so there could be problems with reforming her. Obviously, if we’d force her and make her choose then she’d not even stand a chance into friendship. In another way, she’d basically have to make a friend and understand the concept of friendship first. Flurry heart would be a good example, but i think she’d be a bit too busy to be a huge best friend with her, Diamond Tiara could maybe help her out. With silver spoon, her, diamond tiara and silver spoon could honestly become a squad like the cmc’s! Now, this is something Cozy Glow would actually accept and be interested in, Yes yes I get she is a villain but honestly this could be a absolute yes with no doubt for her! Maybe we actually WOULD have to force her, but not that much because she could see the perks with friendship already since she has witnessed it a little with the cmc’s. Their squad name could be Gold Glow! Fits a lot because in the middle of diamond and silver, probably would be guaranteed gold. And “Glow” as in “Cozy Glow” really gives a nice touch to it! The purpose of the squad could probably be kindness! Diamond Tiara = Generosity [Like Rarity] Silver Spoon = Tough one..they could represent some of the elements in the mane 6, but that’d kinda be copying but some of their purposes REALLY fits with them..So Silver Spoon would probably be awareness [I don’t know the word for it, probably is loyalty, yet she’d seem like the type of pony to look out for her friends and always be there for them.] Cozy Glow = Basically kindness, not all the perks with it since she shouldn’t be too overpowered with it, but in this squad she’d basically be the main character so she’d maybe be like twilight. [Exclude the Alicorn part, no way she can become one in that matter of time.]
Something that bugs me about changelings and their design is their black sleek design was a part of them, instead of changing their appearance I wish they had done something else.
I think Chrysalis is definitely the most likely of the three villains to receive reformation; While like Tirek and Cozy, she did advance her plots through manipulation, Chrysalis definitely had loyal followers and she was looking out for the needs of her people; even if the way she went about it wasn't ethical. The fact that when she was at her lowest point, she carried around the log from Mean Twilight shows that she was starting to become desperate; keeping close what is implied to be the remains of Mean Twilight, even after she betrayed Chrysalis to take the Elements of Harmony for herself and the other Mean 6 clones (only for the Tree to smite them all), it's clear she can't stay alone forever.
Reformed Villains-Nightmare Moon, Discord, Trixie, Starlight Glimmer, Sunset Shimmer, etc. Villains who have the possibility to be reformed-Queen Chrysalis, Tirek, Cozy Glow Villains who will never be reformed-King Sombra, Grogar, The Dazzlings
That's not a problem if you put her under good guard. She showed in Frenemies that she can't maintain the facade if directly confronted by someone who will put the rules first.
Existing Chalateo When i first watched that season finale, I thought her parents were gonna pop out and be like, “COZY! This is the fifth dimension you’ve tried to take over! That’s it, you’re grounded!” And they would drag her off and she’d be like “MOOOOM!!!”
@Carolyn Signore "You really need a Full time proofreader You dumb mouth-breather Well, you should hire Some cunning linguist To help you distinguish What is proper English" -cheese sandwich
@Camp Gravity My headcanon is that Cozy is an adult pony stuck in the body of a filly, being by magic or handicap, don't know, but this is what made her so hungry for power
Yup after about nine seasons that will never happen like this is like a alternate reality nobody would continue this my little pony is over but I want somebody to write like a story or a comic about it
I would have liked if they maintained more of their own identity. Maybe the changelings would be a much more disciplined society. Where they are very polite but want a firm hoof. Hard workers but one who can only bond through work.
I agree on reforming them in case something bad happens but its weird to think how Discord did the stone spell and not the royal sisters it’s pretty strange I liked it better thinking it was all three of them but now it’s just Discord but whatever
Chrysalis is a character who was amazing when she was a villain and owning every second of it. A good villain doesn’t need a redemption. Unless these theoretical events are occurring several decades or centuries after she was turned to stone, to where she’d essentially be a stranger in a brand new world when released, a redemption won’t work
Check out Toriko, main early antagonist (a literal walking nuke named Zebra) basically changed nothing aside from realising that it's a lot more fun to fight with the good guys cuz they keep running into stronger and stronger opposition. I feel like that's one possibility for Chrysalis to change sides without reforming, just plain getting bored! it's silly, but it can happen! Heck, look at what Super did with Frieza.... still an evil as shit bastard! LoL Like Frieza, Chrysalis would probably require constant "behaviour checks" to avoid going power mad again.
And of course, One Piece's full of examples, from Buggy to Perona to Bellamy to the whole Baroque Works crew!
@CaptainOpvious That's reform. Forcing someone to adapt, personality or not, is reform. People need to allow the villains be villains. Those character are needed to have an interesting story. If you force all villains to adapt or reform, then it's kind of boring, since you know that they won't go too far, and will end up as nice guys. That's why Disney old villains work so well. They end up either disappearing or dying, and their role is fullfilled, they can't be redeemed.
@night shroud96 I agree. The reformation process must be handled carefully. Handling a “redemption” like how the creators handled Starlight is going to be lazy at best and ridiculously toxic at worst. And I’m the context of mlp, more and more villains are getting ‘redemptions’. A villain not being redeemed is going to be new
I was hoping to see cozy glows back story as well as them reformed. I was confused in the last season in why she was imprisoned in a cage next to tierk since she is a child and now she is turned into stone. Where are her parents/guardian? If she was an orphan, she would of use her cuteness to be adopted and be successful. If she was bullied badly and had no friends so she travel to twilight school to make friends but she doesn't seem to have any intentions of making friends with anyone there before entering. She wanted everyone to bow down to her and rule Equestria so I can't think of any possible back story apart from she was bullied and want revenge but since she is a child, wouldn't the mane 6 try to ask her like with starlight glimmer or find her parents/guardian to get some information about her? If she is actually a fully grown adult, it makes less sense
You can't exactly blame Thorax for trying to emulate a successful culture. Let's be honest, changelings were never depicted to have a culture of their own, and after living in Crystal Empire for a while he saw it as something worthwhile. Yea, he definitely needs more backbone, but him copying ponies makes very much sense.
I'm rather sure that the writers had in the idea that the two sisters participate in the petrification of Tirek & co. After all, why would they be satisfied to just destroy a giant cake? it sounds like a waste of time and energy considering that Discord could have done this on his own.
Good luck with reforming Chrysalis, she's the one that despised friendship the most. I'm actually not sure she see friendship the way described in the video.
And the reformed changelings adopted pony culture on their own, no one forced them so it's hardly colonialism. the problem is that their culture was a lot about violence and taking advantage of others so that's not a surprised they don't have much left once they're reformed.
Maybe crystalis is allready an transformed changeling. We dont know. I think it would be cool for crystalis tirek and cozyglow to rule their own kingdoms.
I can see chrysalis going back to the hive,but I'm not sure what kingdoms the other 2 could rule.i mean isn't tirek the last of their species?and cozy glow is a child
The culture thing was addressed with Pharinx in the end honestly. He's gotten them tough again, made able to defend themselves the same way they used to in the end along with embracing friendship. So far, he's the reason they're still unique aside from the transformation. He would indeed be the link!! Her problem however? Arrogance. She should've seen the badass attitude that the battles over the years with the mane 7 have shown. He would honestly be a fantastic proof of this. I hope G5's transitional film does this.
Chrysalis went down with thorax for a fight so then they would go along and Christina's might lose and lose trust and try and ask for help and then after she asked for help the leader will give advice and give like a hand and then she will turn nice that's what I think at least
I'm thinking maybe the next one's should be lot longer, Queen Chrysalis tire or get drained from what she's enduring from the others, Tireck possibly counciling, Cozy Glow may need a harsh lesson.
reforming the villain ... the link needed from g4 to g5.
I haven't watch much of any g5, but from what I've seen of it, I have a theory about why magic "died".
what if g4 "killed" all the bad guys? and while no bad guys is a nice thing, it caused an imbalance (maybe a welcomed imbalance?). with no evil, the "balance" of "good and evil" was shifted, and as a result, something had to give. that something, was magic.
What exactly was Changeling culture? Being a bunch of violent, parasitic invaders who were stunted in their development because Chrysalis wanted to keep them addicted and so easier to control? Yeah, no. The previous "Changeling Identity" was based on lies and abuse, so I fail to see how the Changelings gave up anything of meaning here.
The very first thing Chrysalis would have to accept is not the power of friendship but to acknowledge that what she did to her people was wrong and that she caused them and their victims needless pain and suffering all for the sake of obtaining power. I'm concerned that this didn't show up even once in your video, but instead you were almost falling over yourself to almost excuse her past actions by going on and on about "changeling identity" which was supposedly lost by that "race-traitor" Thorax becoming king. No, just no.
Tbh I'm surprised that there are still adults theorizing on this after how many years after the show instead of focusing on their own life. Yes their is the arguement this show is made for kids but their is also the argument that media is a outlet from your own reality and not fixing your own life and projecting your psychology and problems on a fictional character wont ever fix your real world issues.
Awesome theories as always- Chrysalis is actually my fav character, But my fav MLP theorist is you- I have a request- Maybe do zecora? If your visibly confused, what I mean is: Zecora was mistaken as a bad guy according to every pony. Even pinky made a song. Now I know there’s rumors but theirs gotta be detail why? Was she framed or something? Is it she being unknown? Idk, just one random thought that came to my mind ;-;
TBH I don't think Thorax is the best leader for the Changelings, it's not good to try and erase your own culture and history to adopt an entirely new one just because you think one culture is better than the other. Good intentions =/= Good Results
I personally think it is better to reform the others first, part of my reason is that she doesn´t want to be alone as we can see she wants to get her hive back. Icolating her may cause her to think that friendship made her alone, as it did with the rest of the changlings. having the others reform and still be together could show her that she doesn´t have to be alone. Yes i do think that she should be around the other changlings but not so soon, her seeing them in their current state may trigger her hate even more. As you said she doesn´t like the thorax leads, seeing the colony as it is now is what is making hate friendship. I don´t know, maybe I´m wrong, but i like this theory.
Again, this is assuming she even WANTS to change. Cuz while we can speculate about this all we want? Only Chyrisalis can decide. Every person in existance could want to help you but unless you WANT help & WANT to change? You won't. Some people won't change Even when their life is on the line.
"I can understand where Chrysalis is coming from here"
I mean, you are a changeling. This makes you at least a BIT more credible. But then there's the issue of bias. I'm not opening this can of soda yet though.
it's really such a shame that this never happened . however , i think that some villains deserve to stay villains . reforming every baddie in existence just leaves a bland world where nothing ever happens
Like a lot of people, I wish Chrysalis, Tirek and Cozy would of accepted a friendship between them and SLOWLY start a redemption from there. But you probably do have a point that it would be better keeping them apart, at least until after their redemptions. There’s plenty of fanfics already that try to do just that, reform each of them separately, but I’ll admit I’m in the small percentage that wants to see them be kept together. Three villains finding comfort and acceptance with each other, not only would that have been cute, but show there’s more than one form of friendship. Heck, with Cozy being just a child and somewhat confirmed she doesn’t have any parents, maybe they could form a little family dynamic too
You have a point. Maybe Sawtooth Waves could teach at that school. One student at a time, like with keeping them isolated from each other. But Tirek is one tough cookie, biscuit or whatever hard, round food you prefer. Tirek is the kid-friendliest Satan can get, and he'd be that one student who needs the most help. As for Chrysalis and Cozy Glow, Chrysalis would be like that one student who tries their hardest. Cozy Glow is in-between Tirek and Chrysalis as she is the youngest, but Cozy is also the one who wants, and I quote from a song, "A new Equestria". I feel Tirek, Cozy Glow and Chrysalis have lots of potential in being good, and mostly Chrysalis and Cozy Glow. Tirek could be a guard, Chrysalis a guard or a side ruler, and Cozy Glow a teacher(when she grows up).
Yes. "Kindness Reform School". Where they're taught about friendship by force. Is this a thing? Does this sound familiar? It sounds a lot like a concentration camp. Forcing them to learn about friendship with torture. That's a concentration camp. I'm sure that's how the Nazis made friends.🙄👻
Hey sawtooth I love your awesome my little pony theories and because of you I heard there was a season 9 but for some reason I can’t watch it can you tell me what I can watch it on
Hey i will tell u something u said that the mentors of the two sis are alicorn but in the episode finding the lost question in one thousand years luna and celstia said our mentor star swirl so it means that there is no more alicorn
Honestly? Idk if changling culture was something that could be helped or preserved.. Their entire race's purpose and way of life was built upon stealing and deceit. Both inherently evil actions. I can't think of a single thing changlings might've done pre-reform that would be redeemable and worthy of preservation in their future. Hell, changlings didn't even do friendships until now. Why would they have a culture when culture is usually centered around community and how the people act to one another and their traditions they share with one another? So I think the pony colonization and cultural wipe was good for them. (Not counting Pharynx still being a badass. That part of the changlings could stand to live on so that they're not just weird shape-shifting pony clones. Maybe they could become like the dragon ponies, with more gruff and tumble attitudes. Idk.)
Chrysalis would probably have to come back for the sake of the Changeling species, she's the only one we know of that is the queen mother of the Changelings, Thorax certainly can't breed and lay eggs, the Changelings seem to work like most insects like bees and ants, a queen gives birth to drones that maintain the hive, unless a female Changeling was bred to be a new queen then the species is doomed, they'd have to free just Chrysalis, send her to her hive and let her see she's needed with Pharynx's help, Thorax needs guidance, the Changelings need their culture, they clearly have one since there is a changeling artifact! (That beetle staff) and they need to thrive! Chrysalis is not only needed to preserve Changeling's history and culture, she's needed for the survival of the hive. Ocellus was obviously one of the youngest Changelings the hive had at the time so that's why she was sent to the school of friendship but now all the hatchlings are grown, they're workers and drones for the hive and unless Thorax had a new queen bred, there won't be any more Changelings
I have the theory for you to make if you want to is baby flurry heart really the first alicorn that didn't have to earn it or was it the captain of the royal guard because half of them are like alicorns?
I don't think reformed Chrysalis should be redesigned to the new changeling style especially if her role is to reconnect the hive with changeling culture. Maybe she could just lose the holes through her legs to show that she's not empty inside anymore but is otherwise still herself.
Marina and the Saints Ok but pretty much all of the changelings became lighter in colour after they were reformed. So.. I guess they’re all ‘whitewashed’. 😂
She lost what may very well have been her children. I cannot say for sure, but I can kind of sympathize with her if I lost my child to some foreign influence...
Sawtooth: I'll tackle Chrysalis today, I'll tackle the others later. Also Sawtooth: *literally tackling Chrysalis first* Edit: Oh wow I didnt think I'd get this many likes- tysm!
So tirek eats magic. He could eat magic as a punishment for certain crimes, or infinite magic generator. Chrysalis just wants to have the changelings thrive, and it's already happening, so she just needs to accept peace. Cozy, yeah no she's true evil
Queen Chrysalis loses to Pharynx and gets angry and takes them back by hypnotizing discord and the changelings and destroys equestria and the main 6 needs to fight back Another questions did the bridesmaids become normal or are they still on the side of evil and are hidden
Love is just a history that they may prove
And when you’re gone
I’ll tell them my religion’s you
When Punktious comes to kill the king upon his throne
I’m ready for their stones
You can not reform me. I am too evil to be turned to good, whatever good means. My power can destroy most but power of friendship. This "friendship" is so annoying! I wish it was gone... Forever...
Honestly if you look at the changeling interpretation of hearths warming, that shows true changeling culture. Imitation but in a unique way. As that is what changelings did best. Blend in but not by conventional means.
Watch the scene again, sure they may be emulating pony tradition but its in a uniquely changeling way(mainly they took instructions and metaphors literally)
Agree, besides isn't this what happened with most of celebration in our world. Most of them was brought to another country from another influential country sometimes through trade.
So like America with basically anything. As stupid as we are, we are really good at taking others ideas, and making it out own, by putting our own spin on it. Take Pizza, it's originally an Italian dish, but we took the idea, and changed it so much that our Pizza, isn't even real Pizza by Italian standards.
@Coralline idk, that up for interpretation, but I like it. It shows a certain humbleness to he will to learn and adapt others ideas. I always viewed the America as the nation that should always be willing to adopt others ideas, and make it out own. Sadly, the America I live in, doesn't really match my ideals
So for me, chrysalis NOT being reformed is part of why i like her. Shes one of the few villins to not reform or die. Shes a rare character, and to reform her would cause her to lose something that made her special. But thats just my thoughts
If so, it doesn't work, but do I have to do my habilitation? Is this another fight between her and the new pony that is eventually ruined by the strange queen who grabs you as you rush to enjoy the beautiful shawl of the old palace, but in the final sixth season you will be ranked associated alien queens? Season 9 is the premiere of teams made up of Mr. Tirek and Cozy Glow defeat the Grogar Six Manes and face Equestria. The Mane Six and their allies go to stone with Tireek and take it easy in the season 9 finale. Discuss your stories below! My ass five times!
Wait wait wait- what is chrysalis is a good queen before she go evil ok When queen chrysalis was her reformed self she was a good queen but what is she a alicorn? a unicorn that have a butterfly wings? Im confused
What culture? Chrysalis only saw the hive as an army for her use when Thorax was missing she didn't even look for him. I'm sorry but she'll never change.
How to reform teirek: probably have him visit chrysalis or try to show him that taking magic could damage himself aswell (flash back to glow taking almost all the magic from equastria) and just take his reform step by step little by little but if he tries doing damage he is forced to give it back.
i'm disappointed by the ending since i was really sure the three would understand friendship or something like there were even some clues that it ends up like this but instead they just got turned in stone and were never seen again c.c
I honestly do hope they reform Chrysalis, Thorax is kind of wimpy and he doesn't really act like a true leader in my opinion. And Chrysalis' love and leadership for the hive would be better then having a leader like Thorax.
I feel like tirek and chrysalis could be reformed in time, but cozy glow is just too...... evil. Cozy glow pretended to be good again, I can't imagine her being reformed.
Seeing this now made me think on if they will find the statue in G5 because like either the villains are still a statue in G5 or they got delt with in some other way but in the end atleast one of them is probably still around in G5 tin neck has been alive for atleast over a thousend years with no food there only is one changeling hive impiyng that there can only be one hive with one ruler also the changelings have to still be around in G5 like seriusly where are the villains in G5 discord is alive he is the pure imbodyment of chaos like now i'm questoning where all the probably immortal beings are like we can assume that the destroyer of dreams and the prinses of merchandising would be around for atleast a thousend years unless she's difrent celestia and luna might be dead but they have been alive for well over a thousend years as equestia is implied have had them for a long time how long is it until G5 after the story of G4 like the implication is that all the immortals maybe there's only one immortal being and that's discord as the embodyment of chaos would probably not just disapear
Wait I just realized Why is Chrysalis the only changeling that looks like a pony (kinda) Like she has the horn and she uses it like a regular unicorn horn confused
I rewatched this and I remember this fic where Ocellus is a queen, like Chrysalis (there are quite a few of these.) Pretty unrelated, but I noticed during one of the clips Ocellus has that pink head wing-material thing that the others have on their tails, which could signify how she's of higher power? Changelings are weird, Ocellus should be as much of Chrysalis's daughter as Thorax, her "siblings", and her "parents".
If Chrysalis had multiple litters (can't get cats out of my mind, ah), they'd still be siblings and the next generation would be very weird (if Ocellus isn't a queen, there is no literal next generation, or apparently metamorphosis has made changelings into literal ponies.
Maybe incorporate the Ocellus head ruff-thing into Chrysalis's design?
The changelings weren’t “colonised” by ponies. Their culture wasn’t taken from them etc because they didn’t have any culture to begin with. They were all consumed with the constant need to eat that they didn’t develop any culture. That’s why Princess Celestia tells everyone to leave the changlings to themselves after they turn good. So they can figure themselves out without interference. It’s only natural that they would take some of their friends holidays etc because they don’t have anything like that yet.
1:07 in the return of harmony discord clearly said “ he doesn’t turn ponies in to stone “ yet in season 9 he turned not one but 3 ponies into stone. i think he lies to himself
I believe her core problem is to do with lack of faith in others, her primary ability and what she exemplified throughout her appearances was that she trusted no one to help her or care about her, to take love from others instead of having faith that you would receive it after giving it, the idea that it’s about culture is an idea made on the assumption that there is was a culture, granted we don’t know the history of changlings, I’d gamble on the idea that they were her creation for the sole purpose of being her tools to do just what she wanted to do, guarantee love and loyalty, through taking it and ruling with fear. I do agree that Ferinx is a good key to helping her with this, but I also feel that rainbow dash, rarity, and fluttershy would be the best candidates for teaching her to have faith in others, that she would receive love and friendship without having to force it; by giving it.
But we are shown that.. Chainglings didn't have much of a culture beyond serving a leader? They are lit designed to change? And like .. Being docile isn't always weak? ... Changelings are trying to develop a culture beyond just servitude and gathering.. So they are doing what changelings do and copying the nearest culture to fit in. They are? Being themselves? Anyway some of this "docile and weak" and "losing our culture" stuff is handled in the ep with thoraxes older bro? Like?
Wait wait wait aren't you going to talk about how chrisilyas turned evil and how she was born as a changeling ampmd made all the others and became queen i am curious about that
The villains that reformed are Discord Night mare moon Starlight glimmer Sunset shimmer Trixie lula moon
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Neil DuLake2022-06-18 09:30:47 (edited 2022-06-24 08:11:20 )
Dang twilight just wants everything to be her way she needs help to except others and chrysalis is nice to her hive twilight just needs to see it edit: I'm not saying she's evil but when you look at it you can understand what I mean
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M T2020-07-10 16:07:53 (edited 2020-07-10 16:09:29 )
I love this theory, but who knows what will happen in mlp pony life. I can't wait to see your next theories.
Maybe Chrysalis can’t be reformed because she had a chance to reform and she said no. I think she also has a chance of reforming tho too because she kinda considered it for a moment when starlight held out her hoof
I think a good idea would be to free one villain at a time. Then when the other villinas still stuck see how there 'friend' changed they will see how they can be be accepted even considering the past things. It's like you said in your video about the transformations of Twilight and Sunset. Power clouded our there sound judgement. They forgot that they needed to be accepted if they wanted to rule but the power corrupted them.
idea for a special called a queen can changed: when queen chrysalis and King Changer (the king of the changlings) and their army of rouge changling are powerfull and is up to everypony and creature to stop them and starlight and thorax tries to reason with her to change.
Would you please make a video on the real reason behind night mare moon .See the theory goes like this If you remember the tale of the 2sisters was after Luna was banished to the moon celestia took in charge of both sun and moon if you think about it how did celestia get the power to reach the moon? although there are 2 explanations Explanation number 1- after Luna was banished to the moon celestia use the elements of harmony to gain the power of raising the moon too Explanation number 2 - celestia had the ability to raise the moon long before Luna was banished. Luna might have gotten to know that celestia had this power and become jealous and felt like a spare . celestia would have probably give in that position the Luna for raising the moon because she was her sister. this explains a lot and makes a lot more sense for Luna to become jealous of celestia and turn into a nightmare moon
I told you about this theory invite of you videos of yours. If you think me during make sense then please make a video about it
You can't just throw in "culture" and not explain. Culture isn't food and clothes, it's beliefs, social norms, passed down behaviors and ways of life. Culture is not static, it evolves and changes over time. The changelings old culture was to lie, deceive, steal and enslave. Rather then "preserving" that culture, they need to explore their new social position and develop a new culture better adapted to their new situation. Trying to import pony culture whole sale isn't working, but that doesn't mean retaining their incompatible old cultural norms would work any better. It's simply incompatible with the world they live in now.
I honeslty believe that chrysalis should have been reformed. i was staying that when teh episode premiered, and i stand by that now. she should have been reformed with her hive for the exact same reason she was a villian: her hive. she was its leader. her pride if nothing else should have stopped her from splitting with it.
I don't think this would work. I think it would work better like how ember and thorax were talking to each other, remember? I have watched the videos many times so I have found a few gaps.
I want to see what happened when Queen chrysalis turn holes on her wings holes on her horn and holes on her well everything she's so bad but I know in the future or I mean in the past seamless good and gentle but he is mad at Princess cadence
To be honest, I would rather have only Chrysalis reformed. I like Tirek more as villian. Cozy Glow.....I don't really care for, good or bad, I don't think she should have appeared at all. But those are just my optinions so I'm not gonna judge anyone else's.
Do you know if Steven universe was in the same thanks and then if you seen the movie you would see that there’s a really starter weapon just use that on her I’ll restart her maybe you’ll be able to find out how she looked in the past
Discord is stronger then both celestia and Luna combined and could have effortlessly defeated sombra like nothing. I doubt that chrysalis can get out of his spell (only Cosmos and stygian in his shadow pony form is stronger without any transformation)
@Sea Agate Pretty much. Discord's ex who is crazy and turns out caused all that chaos in the past and Discord made it look like he did it by erasing the princesses' memories and such. It really screwed up the sisters' achievement there.
Am i the only one who thinks Glimmer should have swapped with Cozy Glow? Like I know there might be some who will hate me for this but there's a reason why Season 9 was pretty bad writing wise.
All three have different reasons to go away from friendship Crisalist doesn’t want to be weak Cosey glow wants leadership and Terek whants to follow in his fathers footsteps
Chrysalis cozy glow and tirek are dangerous and they may be able to reform but they'll be people or others down the line in the generations you see that there way before they were reformed what's the best way to rule
I think that it should be Chrysalis who rules, and Thorax who advises. She is the Mother Figure in the hive, something a father, though u can get very close, doesn't really give (this is my opinion, I am actually biased). She also has a lot of experience. Thorax would be a very good friendship advisor etc...
Don’t what to be a downer but once evil always evil What I mean by this is although you become a better person the thoughts and dos of evil remain in your mind as a memory
Chrysalis was given a chance to reform and rejected it. Tyrek and Cozy are beyond redemption as one sees ponies as weak and murked his own brother, the other views friendship as a power source
Chirsilis is probably just scared of change she wants to be incontrol of atleest a group of creatures/aka tirek and cozy glow/ i belive there's hope for her I love chriselis she's my favorite mlp villan 😊
The only thing I don't agree with is how she looks after reforming if she is supposed to retain some of her old self then I think she should be a darker color like pharanyx
What you say is true what about her family every Royal Kingdom has to loyal family like Luna Celestia first sepal they're both sisters and no one knows about their parents maybe Queen Chrysalis is jealous of her older brother Allis is the original the sin of lust he doesn't use his changeling powers to transform stealing the energy of love as stay he use his gorgeous body and his gorgeous looks means he's beautiful the anyone he ever see he's not hungry for love he wants to steal love for himself The truth is he was desperate to find out who his real love is a special some Pony or special someone he use his gorgeous body his gorgeous looks for ruin marriage and relationship it's like the husband cheating his wife for another beautiful younger woman and the wife do the same thing
Reasons twilight is the worst pony: she locked a legitimate child in stone A CHILD!! Abandoned the friends she had in her old home. Let Thorax take cychrisalist's Children, and let him get rid of channeling culture. Tends not to be understanding at all.
2:30 The magic of friendship is like a disease. An infection that spreads to those around you. Me: The Coronavirus is a virus. An infection that spreads to those around you.
i honestly think starlight glimmer would be better at reforming her. they basically had the same stories. starlight glimmer used to lead an equal society where everyone would be the same and then got defeated by the mane 6, which made her get revenge on twilight. chrysalis' hive was basically an equal society as well since all changelings were the same. then she was defeated by starlight and also ended up trying to seek revenge, but failed. starlight could have taught her that revenge is not the best way and friendship would be the better way to go. plus, thorax doesn't need to be the changelings' only leader
To be honest I wouldn't mind seeing chrysalis reformed at all...Firery Joker sadly got her description right...as her Princess Cadence disquised she was a GOOD villian...when she revealed herself...not so much.
Josh: "I think I liked her better when she was princess s🤣t"
Granted she improved in her returns but...it was never as good as her disquise. She could've disquised herself as someone else and pulled the same cruel behavior but she never did. For the queen of the changelings, shapeshifting was never explored.
What episode/season is the pink pony in When I heard it ended I went on Netflix to watch it again, but it doesnt have anything past season 9 anyone know where I can watch it?
Like on the cutie mark problem I'm so after we can all be friends but that depends on the villains it will be hard to make them nice because Crystalis I hate when people ruin her stuff
Maybe they can try to make another episode about it and maybe they can read the villains and maybe those characters that the ponies can understand what they're saying
i just got my self wondering will we see a reformed chrysalis in mlp new generation 2 i have no clue how long changelings live for old version and new version of them if it changes things
Chrysalis' story is just so sad. All she ever did was feed herself and her subjects. She did everything she could for them. You can't blame her for not "reforming". Maybe she knew that by feeding oneself with one's own love only destroyed one. Or that you cannot depend on only one group's love for you to survive. After all that she did for them, her subjects just ditched her, just like that. Now that's got to hurt. She had every right to be mad at the mane 7. Then, after she tried to get her revenge, without looking at her past, the"good" ponies just turned her to stone. It just makes me sad. I like chrysalis just the way she was.
so in G5 all of the vilans hold back with magic where are they or what happened to them when magic disaper?
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Bruce Wang2020-07-24 07:57:22 (edited 2020-07-27 08:37:53 )
When Human Twilight went through the portal to equestria she was an unicorn but when she ponys up she grows wings.Why?Since she discovered friendship. Off the topic I know. Plus I have no idea how tirek can be reformed
In the human world Sci-Twi and the others (besides Sunset) probably derive magic from their counter-parts which is why she has wings in The Human World but not Ponyville
I think celestia freed discord as she thought chaos was not evil as it could turn to friendship but why would twilight teach him friendship I mean she tried but didnt she give up why would she try to but it makes sence that she would as she is the princess of friendship
I don't like how everyone connects reforming with transforming, Thorax was already good before he became a hideous rainbow moose so I don't see why Chrysalis needs to change on the outside if she doesn't want to
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Lewis Durrant2021-11-08 09:07:25 (edited 2021-11-08 09:17:33 )
I think diamond tiara could reform Queen chrysalis
The fact that the villains weren't redeemed at the end for once was one of the things I liked about the finale because it got so boring seeing antagonist after antagonist get redeemed (with very few of them left by the end).
@Connor Beith Its botched up big time due to Discord's crap there though. And the fact the criteria for unreformed villains is already met with what happened to the Shadows, Sombra and Storm King.
I kinda don’t want chrysalis to be reformed. Maybe it’s just me, but she’s an OG Villain! I liked her the way she was! Maybe it’s just, me maybe not who knows?
gues I just realise something, in the new episode of my little pony, make your mark, we got to see a new villain, I noticed that it has the same hair color, as that evil little poney, what if that happened, twilight, tries to release them and show them the right way but she failed, they won and took control over the world as her last hope she gave up magic to stop them, what do you think.
It’s Twilight Sparkle we are talking about. Of course she is going to take after her mentor. But she needs to contact you before freeing them. Cause you’ve got it all planned out.
Nope. Sometimes it’s an insult to who they were if they’re reformed. It can be cheap and out of character for them if they give in to the heroes. Not all villains should be reformed. They deserve a chance sometimes but sometimes not, or don’t want it.
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Ok ok ! YOU may be right! HE can change Chrysalis!! But let me think about Chrysalis.Where did she first appreal from??Of course Canterlot Weeding!But why she mark only Cadence and pretended Cadence!!Maybe she love.....Shining Armor!! Just kidding! Ok!Just want to attack Canterlot??I don't think so.I guess; Chrysalis has her LOVER!"Chrysalis has lover"don't tell me crazy!Think!!She's a queen ok then how she produce an Changelings army without a male support.Ok you can tell it can be made Changelings army with magic.I don't think so.Because there is no magic like that.isn't it??I know MLP is just a cartoon!! But think deeply!!But you can ask me if she has a lover then why she is so evil and ruthless? Ok!!Then let me ask you a question!! If your lover die; how will you feel? Heart broken!isn't it? Ok here's question!Did someone do to her lover?With heart broken; Chrysalis can't control her feelings and want to revenge everyone who have been in love because of that she attack Canterlot to absorb every pony's love and want to know them how she truely felt!! "Geez you gonna make a movie??" Don't ask me like that! I can prove!! At Canterlot wedding:Chrysalis sung about .......ok stop right there" there is no ROOM IN MY HEART!!there you go!! I saw what you explain that in other video Sawtooth Waves!!OK I agree it! but I have another thought!She has no room in her heart that's it!!Because of her lover was dead and she can't replace anyone else to her lover.She replaced her room with her children Changelings army!!But Starlight Glimmer destroy everythig she has has:even her love ; everything so because of that she really want to revenge Starlight badly!When Starlight ask Chrysalis to be the leader of Changelings she refused because the Changelings were known about love and friendship.And this is the most fear she has.SHE IS Evil because she thought that friendship is destroying everything;her children,her love everything and the main is no pony ever know how she truly felt!!That's my thought!! I will tell it again. That's my thought only!!!
I thought maybe twilight could reform them and then if they don’t reform and the only thing I can say well I don’t know I’ll say that in your next video.
I wish that could happen if I give them my legend element when they're like friendly they would actually know the magic of friendship my pony is the princess of helping the princess of helping would help
Why couldn’t you do the same thing as ferret because you saw the same thing for a friendship unless you’re in a different timeline why didn’t I think of that earlier
Chrysalis wasn't even that bad of a queen,she prioritize her hive and give them love but she probably didn't know where to get love for her hive and maybe because of her physical appearance no one would give her love so she took it,and by experience i would be angry to if I built something and then someone just takes it away from me like it's nothing and the millions of creatures I created turned their backs on me because the other person is a "better leader"
There is no chance that we see Chrissy being reformed unless G5 is continueing G4 but like 1000 years in the future. At least there is hope if the very last scene of G4 actually showed us the new Mane 6. Until then, we have to suffer with Calarts Life.
Hey can you video the unicorn magic because if you see closly unicorn using magic before twilight became a princess it wasn't a colour aura but twilight's cutimark just watch when raity cut her tail in season 1 and twilight in mare duwell
heyy! im pretty new to this fandom, and i literally need some help. what communities should i join? should i make ocs? should i watch the full lore of mlp before watching the whole series or after? sorry if im annoying btw!
Well. For all of those who watched as new content came out, we did what we could and had fun with it! Take your time with the series season by season and if you feel like it, come join some brony communities and make some content to add to the Fandom! This fan base never really dies so you should get some admirers for your work (again if you do happen to make any)
The community is very welcoming to everyone, you can be an artist if you want, or animator, voice actor, musician, and anything in between or beyond. OCs are optional, and if you just want to watch, that's fine too
They can make a lot of troopers kill each other so if you kill or take them prisoners to save to cost a lot of people and sadness to there families if you make a video on that it will be great it could change my mind
The problem here is her grudge against Starlight. You'd need to redirect that into something less... violent. She can still seek 'revenge' on Starlight, but in more socially acceptable ways. I can invisage a scenario where Chrysalis tries to destroy the School of Friendship by founding her own school, or by campaigning against it. She can still be 'reformed' in that scenario, but still be a jerk, the way Discord and frankly Starlight often are. (Though the show's downplaying of Starlight's flaws, which were her most interesting character trait, are another whole discussion.)
Hmmm, I could also see a scenario where Pharynx is made her jailer/guard and goes along with some of what she wants while also talking up the advantages. While it is a common fan wank that first-stage Changeling hunger is what drives them, it's also indisputable disadvantageous. That same hunger also clouds rational thought, and increases the risk of starvation. Tranformed/reformed Changeling feeding is much more sustainable.
Side-note: Changeling 'reformation' only makes sense if they were some magically-created species, such as they were portrayed in the comics, or as the popular 'love poison princess' theory has it. Otherwise, wouldn't they have already known about that? Or at least Chrysalis would have, and she seemed as surprised as anyone else.
Pharynx is the best avenue, though I've seen one fanfic ("What did I do to deserve this?") that came up with another one. Now it was human in equestria, but it doesn't have to be. The point of it was that it gave her a reliable, useful minion that she came to care about due to those traits. She then risked her own life to save him, without really thinking, and changed as a result. That is also a reasonable path.
Well, discord was more nicer than chrysalis. Even when cozy glow and tirek had worked together to get the bell, chrysalis got angry. This will never happen what chrysalis was reformed.
I agree with you. I feel like the reformed changeling designs are too pastel and bright compared to their original colors. I think reformed Chrysalis should keep her main color scheme, with more colors that make it clear she’s changed but that are still grounded in her older design. Probably a combination of blues, greens, and purples.
Does anyone noticed that she is a ali-corn?? She has a horn she has wings too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!which means she was the old queen with king sombra(idk how to spell that) the thing was Both of them ruled the pony world but soon after celestia and luna were born a ali-corn they knew they will become the princess Did anyone noticed that celestia and luna aren't QUEENS!!!which means there's a secret queen
I imagine that Tirek's reform will be based around his relationship with his brother Scorpius, which seems to be a point of contention for his character.
@Josie Thomas It is "kinda canon" that Scorpan also had the same ability than Tirek. In the original script for the MLP MOVIE (2017); the Storm King obtained the Staff of Saccanas from an eldery King Scorpan who became too weak & frail to handle all the magic he accrued over the years (he had it stored inside the staff instead of his body). -> To avoid that power getting in the hands of an evil "Maffia Boss" Yeti, Scorpan send the magic "to another world" as a last resort (it would explain the weird implied "backstory" in the Equestria Girls special "Spring Breakdown").
Satan is able to be reformed back into an angel, it's just that he doesn't want to nor does he plan to. Satan is more of an evil ruler than a dude who's willing to do anything. With Tirek, you have a point. He's the kid-friendliest Satan can get, and he's unable to be reformed, no matter how hard people may try.
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@Sawtooth Waves There is no category for men (or women!). There is no right or wrong way to be a man or woman. I think you need to give this a lot more thought and reason. You're acting like you have to be a walking stereotype of a man to be one.
@Carolyn it's a lot more complicated than that, just trust me when i say i have given it much thought. feminine men exist, but i am not one of them. that's about all i have to say, might be good to read up on nonbinary identities to learn more, i cant speak for everyone
@Reese Well, as I said, IF she had good parents. But we mostly see her on her own, so either her parents are caring but ignorant of their child's personality sending her away, uncaring and abusive which may led Cozy to believe friendship is power (because it is something she lacked and heard stories how Twilight and her friends used it), or her parents are dead.
Sawtooth: DA MAGIC OF FRIEND🛳(SHIP) IS A DISEASE! AN INFECTION THAT SPREADS TO THOSE AROUND YOU! I WATCHED IT INTECT MY HIVE(HOUSE)! I WILL NOT LET IT GET MEH!
meh: you mean Corona right? Friend~
Sawtooth: GET OUT!
meh: WHAT WHY?!
Sawtooth: YOU ARE SPREADING FRIENDSHIP SO NOW GET OUT!
Wait right the mane 6 want to end the villians why cant they just turn them into stones and then break them and villians usally want to kill the heros and also I never want the villians to die because its so fun to see them fight 😊
Chrysalis is right when she says friendship is a disease it does make peeps weak but it also helps others mentally and yes it can be strong too but it makes you sad at times which make you sad for awhile which will make you not want to fight or be strong…it’s a ticking time bomb that has a 5050 % chance of not exploding
I want something can you look into something where I was watching on space becomes drain one then gives it to Amber in Amber doesn't know what a hug is but but gargoyle does is is a Amber does not as is Amber does on educating as much or is gargoyle hiding something from us
look at title take off glasses * reform Chrysalis* *put on glasses * * don’t Reform chrysalis* *take off glasses * REFORM CHRYSALIS Me: What is this a joke?
YouTube: Puts this in my recommendations Me: Huh, I should probably tell it not to do this, I haven't been in the MLP fandom since 2016 Also me: Watches it anyway
Now that you mention the changelings new leaders bother I'm not even trying to remember some and try to spell the rest I just noticed that there all like siblings because of chrysalis she is the channeling mom wow I'm surprised someone or somepony???????? Just somepony ok that's it what even is chrysalis just someone?like here can even have kids even if it's for I don't know, this
@Bloody Dragon What should they have done?? She wasn't going to stop so they could learn about her. This was the best thing they could have done at the time....
I prefer King sombra 1. Nightmare moon a alicorn failed to accomplish anything twice. King sombra a unicorn turned himself to a king and ruled with a iron fist. 2. Discord took the elements of harmony only to give it back. King sombra took the crystal heart and hid it behind traps. 3. Queen chrysalis tried to take over a castle with an army and failed. King sombra took over an entire empire on his own.
Hamilton ! Any number is good honestly it doesn’t matter. I don’t want to upset anyone, but some usually the person who’s actually first doesn’t say first
And have a redemption ark and Its an orphan however this version îs an Ace Combat charachter than an EQG one Belkan have blonde Green eyes shes played by Anna de Armas
Tbh reforming discord started in like season 3- and he still let sombra chrysalis cozyglow and tirek back in the last season soooo reforming 3 other villains who are wayyyyy worse would take tooooooo many seasons....
Its a good fury butttttt i think if she never came back she be like UMMMMM YEAH LM THE QUEEN BOW DOWN BICH or the change wings would want there old queen back or even Franck and crshlish will marry!?¿
OMAY but heres anoutherthing when crysalis first faced of at the cristal wedding against celestia celestaia stoped wit like guilt so they dont have a past it got me wondering what if There was anouther side to crysalis we all now now when changelings share love they change but were they like that and turned bad? Im not sure im 11 i dont have enough brains but what if crysalis new celestia? just brain storming why did she stop or bigger how dose she now her? just like luna went evil maybe crisalist was like the changlings we new today A LONG TIME AGO and new the sisters maybe they said somthing or maybe the sister were at the crystal plice when kt happend and so she formed a grudge take love STORING it for herself becuse they didnt love her? Like a student THINK ABOJT THAT FOR WON MOMENT
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YEAH IK LONG TIME AGO But ive never seen somebody say that if u think about it credit me as "isparaition - cOmMeNt" lol
i don't agrea, nothing in Chrysalis actions said anything about culture being the problem. that statement about friendship being a disease, yes can be interrupted a cultural issues, but it seam more like Chrysalis is a x quean, that doesn't want to actually have to consider what is best for her people, she seams to be protecting herself more than her hive to mean. her violent outbursts at the idea of friendship along wither her completely dismissive language used when speaking of friendship, speaks to me of a childhood trauma that has compounded over her life time. ading in that friendship is literally food for them for most of the series,
When u sed if only we had some sort of- oh wait, I do😏, that was funny and... ironic XD 😝
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Lewis Durrant2021-11-08 09:16:56 (edited 2021-11-09 09:04:42 )
I think this because Queen chrysalis may of had a mate changelings aren't like ants ther termites in ants all are female but in termites ther can be both male and female and why didn't chrysalis make a New hive bees don't need males the qeen bee can breed without so is the same for ants so why didn't chrysalis but termites need A king and a qeen to breed in the wedding when we first met the qeen she says here hearts somewhere else I think the male what's wher it whas she may have been so scard of gowing back because the male aka the king may have been mad at qeen chrysalis for faling so she didn't go back and now can't have any subjects
Just because she is evil doesn't mean she does not care about her people. Everything and anything she has ever done is only ever being for the sake of her people the changelings. It is in the ways that go about leading people that the problems are to be found. She cared too much for Unity and did not realize that each and every changeling of the hive is in essence their own individual who works part and parcel to the betterment of the group as a whole bunch of individual gears working together in a perfect Machinery of life
Stark Solutions2020-07-21 16:09:42 (edited 2020-07-21 16:12:24 )
1:11 False. Celestia and Luna conjured a "banning" spell, we don't know a thing about magic. But who we are to say something like that? They are mere speculations.
Вау! Просто, вау!!! Я хоть и смог лишь немного понять из сказанных слов автора, но общую суть я уловил. Мне этот выпуск очень понравился, и кто бы что ни говорил но Кризалис в новом образе смотрится как... как новая вайфу! (Селестия, Луна, А НУ ОТОДВИНЬТЕСЬ! Вы загораживаете няшную Королеву Кризалис! ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) P.S. А что за музыка играет в конце видео? P.P.S. Кризалис... КОРОЛЕВА Кризалис, в новом образе не уступает Селестии... а, то и превосходит (͠≖ ͜ʖ͠≖). Ну, это не удивительно. Ведь она же не принцесса, а королева.¯\_( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
It got me thinking about that episode where Thorax learned from the Dragoness leader about being angry isn't always something wrong! Like learning a child with a determend voice that it isn't ok to do that something, whatever the situation now is, like hitting someone.
What is Changeling culture and history? Given the comics are the only canon we have for Changeling past, their entire existence has been subvert, trick, steal love and move on. What was Thorax meant to preserve?
I have a pretty uncommon question: Why are Celestia and Luna titled as Princesses as there's no Queen? I mean, why not queens? We all know before Cadance we got Queen Amore (from comics) so I don't wonder about that. I mean usually, in medieval years, when a family member died, the other generation was getting the name and throne. But since we have no clue who was before them It's kind of confusing. And why queen Chrysalis?
Although I like the idea of the two sisters being useless again and playing no part in the villains' petrification, that doesn't make much sense. One mustn't over-interpret video "footage" of a world of which we have such a biased perception, in which so much is metaphoric.
I've joined a discussion similar to this on reforming Azula from ATLA, and I'll say pretty much the same thing I said there. Not every villain can, or should, be reformed. Even if they could be, if a show reforms every villain, then where are the consequences of being a villain? Any rando could try to take over the world, and it wouldn't have any consequences because even if you failed, you get to just be a normal member of society again. It'd be like Batman getting rid of Arkham, and just sitting every baddie down when he catches them to give them a stern lesson on making friends instead of trying to destroy Gotham. It just doesn't work.
Chrysalis looked like she was considering the path of friendship at one point. Only her hatred of being bested by Starlight got the better of her. If a different pony (not Twi and co.) said the same speech as Starlight did, I think it would have gone a lot further. Who knows? Chryssy has hinted at underlying issues that point to her motivations, but the show never explored those hints.
They should have never ended the series knowing how much stuff they could have made Sawtooth please ping this comment love the content bud and keep it up.
other way would be making her reflect that her children are thriving with this new lifestyle than the one she was forcing them to live with as parasites, not only they don't have to fight, die and kill for their survival, they can improve themselves and live longer and happier lives
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Sir Aroun2020-07-24 17:35:56 (edited 2020-07-24 17:37:14 )
"pony colonialism" make it sound a lot more malevolent then was it really was, Pones didn't force their culture on them. it was just the only thing around to fill the void after rejecting Chrysalis. Chrysalis in a way doomed her own culture by making it so centered around her.
Or, just use actual #RehabilitativeJustice & depetrify them, put them in prison for life & have various counsellors talk to them daily; which is what should've been done with Tirek & Cozy Glow in the 1st place. Even if they don't reform, whatever's learned from couselling them can be used in dealing with others initially displaying criminal behaviour.
I don’t think the changelings had a culture beforehand. Every waking moment seems to have been geared towards stealing love and once they didn’t have to do that anymore they realized how little they actually had.
But wait a sec Discord was reformed with something more than just friendship. Something that we call love. If Fluttershy was not there, he could be not reformed. + He wasn't very evil from start. He was just egoistic and was liking all " fun " things too much, but his " jokes " hurted " another pony. He was not too evil, that why he got reformed.
Her future may be looking great! But what about tirek? I mean diamond tiara can help cozy, and yeah your right about reforming, Chrysalis, but what about tirek?? I'll be thinking about this for awhile.
Good points. MLP season 8 did have issues with some weird writing that suggested pony culture and pony friendship was superior and it felt like the writers were trying to teach a diversity lesson artificially through the other creatures but anytime the MLP writers tackled racism it just didn't work for me. MLP universe just doesn't seem conducive to the judgements found in our human world but your idea could work much better.
I agree that culture had something to do with it, but Chrysalis was also power hungry. She liked being a figure of authority because that's how it has always been until the hive was shown friendship. Friendship took everything away from her: her authority, her subjects, and yes, as you've said, her culture. So I don't think it's as cut and dry reforming her as you say it is. Yes, Pharynx can help, but that still leaves the fact that she absolutely hates friendship due to what it took away. And it is those feelings that made her the first to deny it when the triad was so close. I mean, the only reason she even worked with Cozy and Tirek was because she knew she couldn't do it alone and the power of the bell was far too tempting to pass up. Not to mention, the destruction of the Mane 6 and company.
And the thing is, Chrysalis is smart. She'll do whatever it takes to get what she wants. Being tricked into accepting friendship is not in the cards. She would definitely see through any ruse, whether intentional or not.
And honestly, the same could be said for any of the three. They are all highly intelligent and that's why them working together was so disastrous for Equestria. They would see through any lie. Even in Cozy's case, she would probably trick you into believing she accepted friendship as they view it, and then stab you in the back and take advantage of that same friendship.
I understand reformation because we all want them to change. But sometimes, some people just can't be saved.
No changes actually you improve and adapt. The most important thing she will need to learn is regret of caused harm which to achieve you need the right person to handle it and find the that little click every being has inside.
i disagree. because at the end of the day, chrysi would still have a problem that they are all still submissive to the ponys. she would refuse to be under the ponies thumbs . more lilkly then now she would instead ask them to break away, they can keep their new forms and eating habits, but demand they become independent .
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I have a question what would discord look like as a human if he went to the human world and by extension what would the villans like cozy tirek chrysalis and the other villans look like if they went to the human world
I want chrysalis to meet up with the kirens and autumn blaze to tell chrysalis that she should talk a lot and she will be positive and soon cryhsalys to become nice UwU
I agree with Pharynx being the one to help her, but he did not throw the "baby out with the bathwater" in the opposite direction. The queen didn't really establish much of a culture for the changelings outside of feeding/obeying the queen. Pharynx and Thorax almost look like the emotions associated with two different endorphins involved in caring/love for others. Thorax seems to lean more towards the feelings associated with Oxytocin (bonding with others, including basic social bonding) and Pharynx with Vasopressin (defensive loyalty). Despite this, Pharynx participates in the misunderstood traditions of pony culture for their holidays. Ponies were the group which helped the changelings initially transform and offered suggestions when problems arose or help was sought out. So, while establishing some of their own traditions/culture is a completely valid concept, throwing away anything associated with ponies is a bit extreme as well.
It sounds like the story plot is lacking a certain solution for a ratified resolve among the villian character.my best guess for a resolve among this would have too be something extrodanary like an introduction of another new character of an ancient pony of Darkness?.🥶
can you do cozy glow next because she should be much easier to reform then tirek.i think that because cozy is just a child and she hasn't been evil for that long if I would to reform her I would say this:you can have power cozy glow,just not like this,have you seen how much power twilight and her friends have,it's because of friendship,you did try to use friendship to get power but by being evil,you don't need to steal power,you can just use friendship,similar to the changelings reform,instead of stealing love,they share it,you might think it made them weaker,but they actually became stronger because of friendship,so you can get power and friendship,your just using the wrong way to get it
I like and hate how you are speaking of reforming them like brainwashing. "Made to think they have a choice but should they choose it there's no real threat" gives me cultish vibes lol
Cecília J. Daood2020-07-24 19:09:37 (edited 2020-07-25 17:56:28 )
Maybe this is stupid but my thoery in my head about her is that actually she wasn't born as a changeling, but a pony alicorn, and she did something wrong so she got cursed for it or something, because there are some details about her that makes her look like she is half pony. Like all changelings have a "horn" on their head but that is not a horn actually bc they can't use it to anything. They only have changeing magic. But Chrysalis has magic in her horn like a unicorn. You could say that it is bc she is the queen, but then she could just be only stronger or something. I mean unicorns are also have magic in their horn, not just princesses. And also her mane and tail is hair, and not that weird skin (or idk what) thing that other changelings have. And it would be logical that she rejected referming when Starlight changed the hive, bc she can't just reform with sharing love like other normal changelings, bc of the curse. Can someone tell me their opinion if someone reads this? 😂 Edit: I mean she was a normal pony and then an alicorn and after that this happend bc I know nopony can be born as an alicorn.
Whan i first saw chrysalis i think that she was a hero turned evil because most shows have a goofy persone that want insane or got backstabbing and got a crazy makeover
Hmm...I'm not sure I buy into that. While Chrysalis definitely believes that friendship makes one weak and foolish, that's not what makes Chrysalis a "monster". What ultimately drives her is wrath and hate stemming from vanity. She can't stand the thought of "being beaten". She can't even live with it without it eating her up inside. By the time Season Nine rolled around, she no longer cares about her hive beyond the fact that it was something she possessed that she feels was "taken" from her. All she cares about is making the ones who caused her to lose her hive suffer, specifically Starlight Glimmer and, by extension, the rest of the Mane Six. The only time she ever vents her anger against a Changeling was against Thorax for "betraying her"...in effect robbing her of another subject, something else she "possessed". Even her pose in the statue reveals how twisted and demented she's become...a hissing, biting monster defiantly raging to the last.
If Chrysalis was going to be reformed, I can only see it happening if she somehow lets go of her hate, and that can't happen unless she lets go of her vanity.
And it's plain to see that she's never going to let go of that. As much as people want to make theories about how it could be done, the reality is that Chrysalis is simply irredeemable.
i hope that never happens, they deserve eternal punishment and no redemption, that's what kinda turned me off from steven universe, i saw everything as a waste of time, pointless. Turning everyone good is lame, lazy and unrealistic even for color horses standards. There were 8 season of reforming, Discord, Starlight and many others turn good, but that is not enough for people! Let us enjoy a villain defeat with punishment. GEEZ!
SPOILERS: Optimus and The Mane 6 used the Matrix of Leadership and the Elements of Harmony was Chrysalis reformed to a good side. Thanks for the Matrix of Leadership. It's a weapon of light. In TF MLP FID
Today I'm tackleing chrysalis I'll tackle T-EX and cozy glow another day :3 Me: maybe Chrysalis can be related to Luna too because if Luna can show chrysalis a way to be good because in the past Luna got sent to the moon the a few years later she came back as nightmare moon apple Jack and twilight showed her another way right?
Um.. their might be a better way. But this may sound cruel for Chrysalis. U could transport her to the new tribe. Until she had a place of her own on the hive(a.k.a, maybe queen or the advisor) the could put her in friendship lessons taught by Therinx it will take time but she will see that the hives new culture had nothing to do with friendship
Her soldiers u mean her children after all she gave birth to them . Once u think about it she actually care's for her hive she just show it diffrently cause u know she's got a temper
The only thing I don’t agree with is the model u gave crystalis, XD, I think she’d still wanna be somewhat like her other form just no as ragged I’d keep her colorsceme
You're way to form the is amazing but I think I have a good one to start so half the loan and separate with a pony know what with a been through then slaps the ponies show them what they did spin have the villains do the opposite of that and the same of that and then she would someday like better to whether they should be turn back to stone or to whether they could be good and with more
I know the people who make MLP made their FINAL and LAST season, But I think they should make 1 more, and the REAL LAST season Where they reform each of the three villains. I would like that
Also- I cant watch the final season because I only have Netflix and it has not Updated yet for some reason- 😭😭😭😭😭😢
I'm sorry, but I don't think MLP Needs to redeem every single villain in the show. I’m not saying I don’t like the idea of redeeming villains, it’s just the way MLP Did them. The absolute worst thing about the annoying trope of redeeming villains in MLP is that it takes the responsibility away from the bad guys.
It basically tells the audience that it's never okay to be angry at someone who's hurt you, nearly killed you and your friends and it's your responsibility to make them better people despite the horrible things they did to you.
The way MLP does A few of the villain redemption to me is plain. It's just The villain does bad stuff, heroes beat villain, villain asks for forgiveness, villain changes and becomes good like nothing ever happened.
I started having this issue when Starlight was redeemed, and I consider her to be the WORST reformed MLP villain and Character in general, along with the character starting undeserved Villain reformations for scumbags that were hell-bent on harming people and destroying the world who then turn out to have a terrible Excuse for it. I'm looking at you, Starlight and Tempest Shadow
I mean, sure, Redemption is a good lesson to teach sometimes and that there are always two sides to a story and that compassion can go a long way but when you start telling the victims that it's their responsibility to fix their abusers and being Angry for their actions towards them in any way is bad, it's just an unacceptable lesson to teach.
Look you see season 4 the name is princess twilight sparkle when the princesses was gone zekora said drink the potion and then twilight drink it so there's 2 dreams and this is the first accident and the first dream when nightmare moon was defeted by Celestia and the the second accident and the second dream was when the two sisters defeated discord and my question way Luna is in that accident when she was nightmare moon and trap in the moon so that's why I'm asking you that because it didn't make sense to be so make a video about it plss because I wanna know😀😀😊😊
Maybe if she feels happy she how much the hive Nico feels loved well she might come back Metro PC phone kind of like how the weather's going to be just like that he just needs to be loved now we may be love Toto don't know who this is this is Samantha
OMG OMG SAWTOOTH I JUST FOUND A SECRET EPISOD DELETED BYE THE MAKERS OF MLP it's about the changling and how they have a big problem un like crysalis she can lay eggs and still produce changelings but now that thoraxe can't so is the episode I found out a HUGE SECRET (most changelings are male only a few are female and gess what! Thoraxe has a crush!!!!!!!!! And from the DELETED scenes thorax is worried in the future changelings could be extinct that's when they stopped the animations and deleted this episode I thought you might want to do the video on this so yeah just saying I love your videos and keep up the good work
I think.... cozy glow is good just got nuged in the wrong direction twilight could have done it but her......Freinds they kept her from that they got got obsessed with....well.....Having badguys in jail twilight was in the right direction Right right?But it's just a filly Brainwashed Her freinds kept her in 1/2 in right she said",I'm so sorry you thought that Freinds Don't let a bad apple keep you from what's right.🤠🥳What they mean is getting carried away with winning THEY ARE WRONG
DID YOU NOT seE THE Frist video well hey deleted it now but crisalish idk how to spell the name sryy but she was a alicorn but she wasn't treated like a princess so then she snapped and became a changeling Read this plzz
My OC, Goldie Rose, daughter of Chrysalis (I mean royalty type) will only reform a while after her mother does. She will try to get revenge, but will eventually reform to be with pharynx. Yes, they were dating.
I go deep with my OC backstories. Goldie Rose is just the name to her pony form. Arachnet is her real name.
I have a theory on Chrysalis, I think sh once had friends with the crew of the flutter flyer. It's a group of pirates of mostly ponies that protect unnatural things from beyond, Chrysalis was the spy, her other crewmember was Dr. Timbur, he use to be the one of the smartest ponies in the world, Timbur like to study creachers from a evergreen forest, until the event.... (Dramatic music 🎶)
4:03 essentially embodies a major part of why I continued to watch FiM to its conclusion and beyond. Faust’s creations show that worthy principles of cooperation are far from weak, though they can appear to be at times.
I actually am really happy at this as an as of yet unreformed changeling. It feels good to see reformed changelings still have high hopes for our queen.
I was hoping the series would go into an evil friendship at some point, but they never really did. A group of evil creatures with evil goals but still were good friends to one another.
That would be amazing. Just imagine, Chrysalis, Cozy Glow and Tirek being friends. Then Chrysalis would become a reformed Changeling, but still be evil. Adding to that, imagine having Chrysalis came and the mane six are like who is this then the two come and they are like Chrysalis. Then Chrissy vs Starlight. It would be an even epic finale, 100x better then the one, we got. Not saying, one we got wasn't good or great. Plus, think about it, Chrissy can raise Cozy Glow, when they are trapped in stone. So, little Cozy gets someone to do it. Something tells me, Cozy's parents were evil or just hated her and that's why, she is like this or she never had parents. Maybe, something like that. So, you'll get a evil nice bug mom, instead. She'll be happy, they'll all be happy.
I think your idea might be the best one for this because I never thought of the idea of pony colonialism being the problem here until you mentioned it.
I have always loved the reformed designs and corrupted designs. Though I haven't seen much on the possibility of Cadence becoming corrupt. I assume because that's what chrysalis is in the series but I love the idea of watching Cadence becoming ( Heart Breaker) or whoever and joining forces with Chrysalis.
i just wonder. she is a queen, meaning she is the mother of whole hive. so... thorax cant be a new mommy? if only they dont have a baby changeling to rise as a new queen. or thorax changing his sex.
One of the only ways to reform them would be for them to see what it is like to get the same treatment from someone more powerful than them (they have no idea what Grogar is actually like and he is most likely much smarter than those three combined considering he is older and wiser than them in an evil sense and not a good sense) and Grogar fits that though we don't know much about him either or why he decided to become Emperor of All He Saw, so maybe just maybe if the REAL Grogar comes back to take back his lands that were taken from him then we could learn more about him when he starts to tell people what it was like for him when he was younger or be told by some of his oldest creations or in other words monsters of legend like Typhon, the Kraken, Jormungandr, Fenrir and etc.
Good plan but you miss one detail, she see friendship as a corrupting force and she prefers the old way which is counter productive. That ironic which in the name changeling, they changed.
I hope you can do Tirek next. At first I thought the idea of Chrysalis turning good would be bad due to the fact she might lose her identity and personality that we all came to enjoy. But your video once again dose prove a good and interesting way of it being possible.
Oskar winters2020-07-21 07:11:59 (edited 2020-07-21 07:14:25 )
That ending would have been more satisfying than what we got. Cossyglows parents should have been the ones to convince the princesses to give her another chance.
Chrysalis was the culture of the changelings. Her will was law. So regretting the old culture is synonymous with her ouster. I don't see her being able to bring any of the old ways if she came back with her. She the proud leader would have to bend to there will instead of hers.
Sociopaths lack the ability to feel friendship. So cozy glow is out as a redeemable creature.
2:17 I can actually see ponies doing that... "MAGIC FRIENDSHIP POUNCE!" "Aaaahhh!!" Also, great theory, though Chrysalis will probably never be cheerful and friendly... The 'Lings need someone better than Thorax. Ambassador? Yes. Big brother to all? Of course. King? Oh TARTARUS no! If I was making a new changeling government after Chrysalis reforms, I'd set up a three-seat council, a Triarchy if you will, where Thorax, Chrysalis, and Pharynx are all involved. If it was just Chryssi and Thorax, it'd be gridlock, and Chrysalis would almost always get her way. Pharynx understands both sides, could mediate, and him being there would boost Thorax's confidence while keeping Chrysalis from dominating. . Other than that, I think your reasoning is spot-on. . Conspiracy Theory of the Day: How many well-known ponies from the Unification and Two Sisters eras were actually changelings who got dragged into pony shenanigans?
Chrysalis is definitely the most likely to be redeemed. And way you described sounds rather fitting. I’m suddenly hoping that IDW’s season 10 does such a thing.
I wonder who drew that reformed look for her? Very good, it looks official practically.
If Queen Chrysalis got friends in Cozy and Tirek, would she transform? She would give some kind of love to her friends and other changed by giving love
why not release them one at a time? that way you could reform one without the others interfering, and as an added bonus could help the others in getting reformed. having all three free at once spreads the resources too thin. just some thoughts.
What would their culture/history look like though? Constant hunger, attempts and failures at taking over kingdoms? This sounds mean but i don't mean it that way, i'm just wondering what their culture/history would look like; how they were created/evolved, how their shapeshifting works? Maybe even their ability to take the best from others and mimic it themselves to make the best society they can?
I believe tyrek (I think I spelt that wrong) would be the next easiest because all he wants is power, kinda like sunset shimmer wanted before twilight sparkle changed her mindset. He needs to see how bad he becomes with all that power he “wanted” before he sees its better to just keep at the same level instead of take over all his friends and his friends family
I’m confused about the timeline of the banishments Nightmare moon: she was in the moon for exactly 1000 years Discord: was defeated before Luna became nightmare moon, so if he really was trapped in stone for around 1000 years, even if not exactly he still should’ve been freed before nightmare moons banishment was over The pillars: they ended up in Limbo before discord was turned to stone, maybe even before his reign started, and yes they were brought back by the main 6, but it’s still incorrect to say that they were in Limbo for 1000 years, it would be longer
You are right. But it would have been a 1000 years, maybe even 2000. As this was when, Luna and Celestia were young. So, I'll go with 2000 years. As Celestia ruled for around a 1000 years. Then, you had the times with Luna, which must been a long time. That''ll be my chance. But I'll fix this then make a video on it.
I have a theory about cozy glow. You can probably turn her into a Alicorn. Here is how she can reform, when Chrysalis. reformed Cozy Glow was suspicious she asked why she turned into this “ Monster” Chrysalis told her everything then Cozy Glow realized that friendship can be good then she finally turns into her true Alicorn self. But what do you think!
I don't think she and the others should ever be reformed. They're essentially performance pieces, designed to hype up a boss fight similar to the Sirens. To reform them would to strip them if everything that makes them fun.
Dear Sawtooth Waves, Could you please look over (and possibly make a video on) this not-so-little conspiracy of mine? Look at it like this: Rainbow Dash got the others their cutie marks, can do this incredible, life changing stunt (sonic rainboom) with ease, has, if you look at it right, broken the fourth wall a couple times, and of course most of the ultra powerful magic in the show is rainbow... WHO ARE YOU DASHIE???
Bruh- I thought of making a new hive that would be some kinda gurds or guild that would do jobs for items and money and chrysalis would be the leader xD
Okay so here's the thing, I believe to get paid you have to go past the 10-minute mark on almost every video. which means he's not doing this to get money he's doing this to confuse our brains, and I think something beautiful in that.
You know I DO agree with and I wish MLP had this kind of ending But I guess author wanted to say that something or someone never changes depending on themselves And crysalis didn't wanted to change till the end like thorax and cozy glow They tried to help to crysalis TWICE like to discord and starlight and from the second time got that they were wrong and changed but crysalis didn't wanted to change so i guess maybe its even good that she was turned into a stone.... 😞
I was thinking the same thing about How to reform Queen Chrysalis. Friendship has no correlation with just pony culture. i mean seriously, I have an OC that in his backstory was a danger to ponykind and has to learn that the new era of ponies are different.... more friendship oriented... than when he was young
With cozy glow, she has the idea that friendship is magic, but she has the wrong idea on how it should be used. I think the options cozy has are “friendship for power” and “friendship for the sake of it”. Cozy is probably going to be the hardest to reform because of this, and we’ll need to come up with a strategy on how to make her understand the true magic of friendship. Good luck Sawtooth. If anyone can find a way, it’s you.
They should have Cozy Glow sent to a friendship camp to learn about friendship in a painful way. Then again, maybe Devon Smith is right about Cancer Glow being a lost cause.😿🔫
I can't say I'd want Chrysalis to be reformed. Not everyone's going to change who they are just because your kind to them. Its important thing for kids to learn that morale.
This has nothing to do with this video, but I had a random thought one night. What if the FlimFlam brothers are changelings. Im probably wrong, I was tired when I thought of this.
wait wait i have a lot of thing in my head like mabey Sombra Chrisalis are Candence parents and when star swirl said 1000+ i remembered nighmare moon mayby he is the one banished nightmare moon and when celestia and luna used the elements of harmony their hair started to wave and i thought the elements of harmony can only be used for good but sunset shimmer dint do that and i remember the elememts of disharmony mabey crogars bell is accualy one of them and the stone in equestria girls and a lot more and maby this why dint candence hurt king sombra or chrislis bc they are her parents is this enoigh i think so tho
Your right pharynx said the changlings once used to be fiearce warriors now they,re all weak and stuff The changlings turned weak after they reformed is chrisalis afraid of that do you think she wants a fiearce army
Regular fans of MLP: ugh, Chrysalis can NEVER be reformed, she's true EVIL! Hate her so much! >:0 True bronies: REFORM 👏CHRYSALIS👏TO👏HER👏BETTER SELF👏AND👏MAKE👏A NEW👏FRIEND👏
I feel lile Rainbow dash would be the best one to reform Tirek and where his loyalties should lie and Twilight reform Cozy Glow because Cozy Glow knows friendship is power she just doenst know how to use it in the right way so I think Twilight would be the best with reforming her since she represents the Element of Magic. I think Rarity would be the best at reforming Chrysalis because she can learn to share love instead of being selfish and taking it for yourself Rarity would be best for since she can show her Generosity and the ways of being Generous to Others
I have a question to ask you and maybe u can answer can a earth pony turn into an alicorn and since you said in your other video a alicorn is made by discovering or making new magic so if an earth pony could idk figure out how to move the earth kinda like maud but i guess like an earth bender i know its a stretch but could and earth pony become one ?
I mean Cozy Glow might be able to he reformed. She's manipulative and annoying but she's young so they can probably get by. Chrysalis hates the idea of being reformed probably and tired is a literal demon. I'm not sure if they'll be able to reform tirek but eh, friendship rules over I guess
This appeared in the Up Next box while watching a video about a very strange prototype rifle. What is my life? Waaaaitaminit... that rifle was pretty small, and designed to be used with winter mittens... Oh crud. The Royal Equestrian Army is about to invade, aren't they? They will "liberate" all our COOKIES!! oh noes...
I like chrysalis because she thinks she is doing the right thing, she was trying to feed her Hive but in the loss of the pony's happiness but she didn't care. She thought of only her Hive and her own people and I admit that was very horrible but she didn't realize or understood that.
Changelings were in the final battle but she wasnt convincef she needs to sloely trandition pretenfing unteformed chsngeling are there but then she will befriend them then when they reveal they are reformed she will realise what true friendship is and that its different for every culture. Like if U agree.
Hey I have a theory, when flurry heart was born Celestia said this was something EQUESTTRIA has never seen before. Maybe Celestia and Luna where born Alicorns
Sorry I'm talking about a video from 2 years ago, but you said Celestia and Luna were not born alicorns because Celestia said "The birth of an alicorn has never been seen in Equestria" but you see Celestia and Luna were not born in Equestria. So wouldn't that mean that they were born alicorns??? And maybe the difference behind the mane is the fact that only unicorns who were born alicorns have wavy hair?! But... in season 9 twilight has wavy hair so maybe it's the only older alicorns who have it??? Let me know ur thoughts!
I dunno which is actually the case. BUT what I can say though,is that if Cozy does actually have parents. It seems like they really,REALLY screwed the pooch. Because if Cozy was showing some sort of behavioral issues at home. That were bad enough that they wanted to send her to the school of friendship,in an attempt to try and correct them. Then they really should have just taken and had her evaluated at some sort of mental health facility instead. Because it seems like the kid clearly is/was displaying some hardcore behavioral issues,like psychopathic/sociopathic level kinda hardcore. Not just shoving her into some school that teaches friendship and hope for the best. Because we ALL saw just exactly how well that turned out.....😑
She is the little pagasus filly sitting on the stone statue base at the beginning of the video. The one who has a pink coat and the super curly blue hair. The kid may LOOK cute,innocent and sweet;but I promise you that she is ANYTHING but that. The kid acts like a TOTAL friggin' psycho,except when she is trying to be manipulative AF and "play" at being sweet and innocent in an attempt to influence others.
Ummmm...... It's been a week and no video Sawtooth Wave?????? I'm still angry 😠😠😠😠 what happened did you change your upload date ?????????????🙎🙎🙎🙎🙎🙍🙍🙍🙍🙍🙍🙍
Three ponies hu connected the unicorns the Earth and the wind habits for help Singh Twilight friends and her we soak them cannot start and any other time
Just saying Chrysalis is powerful and can control minds like the bridesmaids so she could maybe control changlings and take over equestria after the fight
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why oh way in chanted night if you see the light if you can see the light by something to hang us out of your mind and you want to go out so you have to brace
That's... huh. That's really good, actually. Like, REALLY good. I always wanted Chrysalis to be reformed in the show and well... you gave a really good example of how that could happen.
That is very interesting. I never thought of it like that. Maybe they could be changed. The series is over but I think I agree that maybe those villains could change. I do think Thorax is doing really good as a leader. Some want to be kinda like ponys others are fine with being themselves. Maybe Pharnex could help. Maybe they can change. And if I spelt his name wrong sorry. lol. Bye.
Yes, I LOVE your idea for Chrysalis! But how would you go about doing the other two. As far as we know, they care about no one but themselves. So I think that the best way to reform them is to teach them empathy, I don't know how to do that, though.
Cozy is most likely gonna be the hardest to reform because she doesnt really have a reason to be good but chrysalis and tirek do chrysalis' reason is this video basically but for tirek i think the way to reform him is to reunite him with his brother,scorpan.
I really hope all 3 villains do get reformed in Season 10, & I also think they should start with Cozy Glow or Chysalis. But I do need to slightly disagree with the Changeling Culture part. Their old culture was all about invading lands & stealing love, never to be satisfied. Thorax was trying to find new ways for them to explore a new life for each other, but simply missed the "needing to defend themselves" part. That's where Pharynx came in. Chrysalis is, of course, stuck on the old ways, believing that this was the best way for the Changelings, & they should stay with it. And the only part that the Changelings were mimicking from the ponies, was Hearths Warming. Of course, they did misinterpret the instructions.
Not an MLP fan but loving the nostalgia even though I know nothing of Cozy Glow bc I never watched past season 4. Abandoned the fandom awhile ago but occasionally I come back to enjoy the childhood memories and knowing absolutely nothing.
if changelings live off of imitating other´s than i think its natural that the reformed colony did the same with ´´being ponies´´ theyre doing what they did before but in another way
Okay wow! The redesign of Chrysalis as a good queen is absolutely stunning! She looks like Elsa and Rapunzel put together and turned into a pony! 😍😍😍 Thorax may not still be alive when they decide to release the villains, but if this plan works, she will be an amazing queen. And she and Thorax do look cute together. 😏
I had an idea of how she can reform but in a different way. Yes it’s a good point separate them but instead we take part of an episode where the new six went under the school. But instead under the school it’s an unknown location a palace she doesn’t know at first where or who did this she couldn’t escape the palace because of some strange force she then sees hallways full of memories of her past but I also see every single one of thorax memories. She see’s his past at first she hates it but as you go along she thinksShe needs to continue in order to escape. Starts to have little thoughts and then she meets thorax his brother and then she has the sense of performing like you said. Then she takes the final test where she somehow is at the hive when she has the choice to overthrow thorax or become part of the hive never feeding off others love but embrace it. If she failed she goes back to the beginning and if she succeed she can leave the palace and see it was thorax’s brother who tested her the chance to come back.
It could maybe work, but remember that Starlight also played a big part of Chrysalis lost her empire. Maybe she will still feel hate over what Starlight did to her, and that will make some problems to reform her.
With some help of brony notion theories on chrysalis I was able to know some of the backstory of chrysalis and after putting them all together I found that chrysalis is the princess of love earlier than cadence but I don't know what happened to her that she become so nasty maybe it will be revealed in the later episodes of my little pony
I never considered Pharenx as a potential person to help save Chrissy. But the one person I acually did consider was Flurry Heart whether grown up or baby. If grown up form, then Flurry can try to learn about the queen who traumatized her parents wedding and see that Chrissy only did it to support her hive. At first there would be animosity between them as they won't see eye to eye, but when the Changling Hive is under attack from an old enemy (changling threat specifically) Chrissy might step up to save them our of her own subcounsious love for the hive that left her. Though how that will hlp reform her is another story.
If the baby version; this would work prior to season 9. If Chrissy, somehow, kidnapped Flurry Heart as revenge against Shiny and Cadance, she would have to go on the run while at the same time keeping the baby quiet and content. One thing that Chrissy will have trouble with is the fact that since the baby has so much love put onto it (the parents, the entire crystal empire, and the other three alicorns and EoH) Chrissy is both having trouble taking in all that love and finding that the love in question is too potent or even addictive. It doesn't help the fact that Flurry might actually show love back causing Chrissy to slowly care for the child without knowing. It could finally end up where Chrissy is face-to-face against another kidnapper (or maybe a rouge adult dragon) and she has to decide whether to fight to protect flurry heart or ust flee and let the dragon take her. Chrissy decides to proect and asumes a form probably similar to Ember's father(forgot his name) and scares off the dragon. However, in doing so, Chrissy exhausts most of her magic and passes out while at the same time some royal guards spot the commotion. Chrissy later wakes up on a bed, in chains, with Flurry Heart snuggled next to her while Celestia, Cadance, Shiny, and Twilight (luna maybe) watch on. They explain to her that after they brought her back to Canterlot and healed her up, mostly, they were planning on sending her to jail only to be stopped by Flurry Heart after trying to seperate them. At this, Cadance can offer Chrissy the option to help look after the child as both Cadance and Shiny will no doubt be busy with ruling the Crystal Empire. In all honesty, if going with option B, Chrissy might've been given the Starlight treatment where it takes one or two seasons for her to fully reform into someone even Shiny/Twilight can trust.
Well here's my Reasonable/ Logical Conclusion of what Sentence should be suitable for this Monster's Society of Evil Trio: - Tirek: since it all started with his brother and their schemes as well as their betrayal, it's best to Exile him to his homeland and let his family deal with his actions. -Cozy Glow: like everyone has said she is still a child and she should be treated as such so a probation under a watchful militant family or a royal family and to help her reform through her teenage years and earn her trust back after Equestria from her young crimes ( the perfect test for Flurryheart!) - Chrysalis: ... 😤😡 honestly she either stays a statue Forever; the Mane 6 and starlight glimmer try to redeem her with her changelings as support; Or (My Vote) for her numerous crimes and irredeemable actions multiple times as the 'Enemy of Equestria' , her treason to her own people, squandered the one chance she had to redeem herself and continue to plot in the shadows, as well as her conviction and never stopping to harm Equestria in any way with no signs of stopping. I'm afraid we must consider that she is one villain that's too dangerous to be kept imprisoned or unchecked; her actions continues to get worse over time as well as desperate and proving herself she is beyond Redemption; and since every pony (including the fandom) thinks she is the Best Villain then you wish will be granted as we give her the worst punishment for her crimes such as sharing the same fate as King Sombra! Shattered by the Forbidden Execution of Order 65!
I can see this working but there is a problem, freeing them. With Discord we see that the moment he is freed he is awake he can move around the moment he is freed from stone. When they realize what is happening they can easly try and run away. Even if we have guards and discord ready at any moment there is still a change they can get away. Crysalis has a horn and can easliy teleport them, or just herself, away. Now let's say that we free them all at the same moment and split them up. Discord can't stay with all of them at the same time. He can only be with the one they are trying to reform. Now let's say they try to reform Crysalis first. It dosn't stop the other two from trying to escape. Cozy glow is a massive lier and mulipelator and can lie about anything. Tyrek can absorb magic from any magic creatur and take it's magic to get stronger. But here is my plan and we must ask a simple question. Are their statues conected to each other? Crysalis and tyrek's statue's seems not to be conected, they are both standing sepretly, But Cozy is flying. So if we can seperet the statue's or figer away to free one at a time. We can really focus on refroming one at a time and have all the secyrety on one. Insted of risking more by haveing secyrety spred on all three at once.
Sawtooth my dude I think you've just made an awesome mlp episode/arc but that also could leave some potential of a double cross if the plan doesn't work out...🤔
The biggest hurdle in reforming Chrysalis is that she does not want to share glory. Yes she wants her subjects to be saved, but she wants to BE the one to do it. She wants bragging rights, she wants to lord it over them and say "Look what I did. You have been saved and I am the one to be thanked for it!". She cannot share glory, and nothing enrages her more someone else doing 'her' job. In fact she would rather tear it all down than accept being anything less than the 'hero' in her story. Think of the kind of people who when they start losing a game, will take their ball and go home.
Can we do a video about reforming Sombra? The old man had like five near death experiences, two of those were actual deaths. He literally just pops into existence and immediately everyone wants to kill him. Ironic that the Princesses decided to reform the LORD OF CHAOS and not the guy who they tried to kill five times and successfully did so twice.
Twilight: We have built our empire upon friendship and peace-
Me: And upon the deaths and imprisonmentof every single threat. Nice friendship you have going there.
Twilight: ...
Me: Seriously I could make an argument that every single threat was inadvertently caused by you guys, as in the ponies of Equestria.
Twilight: what? Oh please!
Me: all of Ponyville treated Zecora as a witch... EVEN THOUGH THE DEFINITION OF A WITCH IS BOTH A POTION AND A MAGIC USER!
Twi: But-
Me: And that Stigyan or whatever his name was who became the Pony of Shadow after being rejected by the Pillars.
Twi: That... Proves nothing! He was just a kid and nobody knew Zecora.
Me: Everyone tried to kill Sombra without trying to understand his past.
Twi: he killed the princess of that empire stealing the Crystal Heart.
Me: Do you even know why he did that? Or heck how many friends he even had.
While i agree on the part with abolishing changeling cultur, it wasn't solely Thorax fault. Before the reformation, Changeling live was pretty much: Be born, get trained as drone/soldier, serve the Hive/Queen and infiltrate other species to steal love and leave after you done. Not much room for individualism and to form any form of culture other the thing mentioned above and whatever species the were infiltrating, which was left behind as soon as they were done.
Then comes the big reformation of the changelings and suddenly there is no need for infiltration and a lot of room for individualism which made even more evident how little of an own culture the changelings actually had. And since copying is kind of their thing, it's not a stretch that they would copy the one cultur that bested their old ways and brought these changes.
Of course culture is usually formed be experience of the people, so simply just mimiking another cultur without understanding it leads to alot problems. Other then that i completely agree with you.
Imma keep it real with you, I'm sick to fucking death of villains being reformed and redeemed. Do the storm king thing again and shatter these three into a million pieces.
Frankly if you want to reform I would say the best choice to do it would be to select the element that best supplies a positive force on the villain's main issues. Look at Discord, Celestia pointed out that Fluttershy would be the most important part in reforming him. Why is that? One would think a crazy and bubbly figure like Pinkie would serve to be a better friend to Discord and she certainly was the 2nd pony to try a bit harder to befriend him. Its the kindness of Fluttershy that Discord needed, a creature who no one else could ever understand and would shun because of his differences needed to feel accepted and applauded with sincerity. So Chrysalis what does she need? Loyalty, true loyalty, I would think Rainbow would be the best choice to handle her and show that fear is not needed to have others stand behind you.
I have a theory for Cozy, but beware, it won’t make sense. So, here we go: When we first met Cozy was when AppleBloom, Sweetiebelle, and Scootaloo was trying to get into Twilight’s new school. There they met Cozy Glow. I forgot how the crusaders got Cozy her cutie mark, or if Cozy had it already, but she also wanted to learn friendship. Further on in the season, we now see the new students talking to Cozy while falling asleep, telling her about the basement with the tree of harmony. This is when all things went haywire. Cozy goes into the basement and (idk if this is right) get the magic from the tree, making her (powerful?) because of the tree’s harmony. This is also where we can consider the problem and how she can reform. The problem could either be that she’s power hungry or elements of harmony hungry, or even FRIENDSHIP hungry. I didn’t really catch all the details so you can tell me in the comments. Anyways, the new kiddos fought Cozy with the elements of harmony. The new elements of harmony. Cozy ends up in a cage and somehow with Tirek and Chrysalis. Fast forward to the part where they almost got along and realized friendship. But it backfired and you know what happens. Sawtooth covered Chrysalis, and hopefully he could look at this comment and consider doing Cozy next. Anyways, now I continue my theory about how to reform Cozy. Since she isn’t a changeling, she could possibly be turned into stone and end up being changed like discord, but since MLP is so diverse, it won’t be easy because ya know, it s Cozy. Different creatures can be effected in different ways. So, if that doesn’t work, she can possibly be persuaded by the crusaders...But at the same time, (and do read this part) Cozy is manipulatively so....IDK...LIKE I SAID, I FORGOT THE DETAILS SO I MAY NEED HELP HERE...Anyways, yeah, that’s my theory. I hope you take this with a grain of salt, pepper, cinnamon, paprika, sugar, sprinkles, spice and everything nice. Thank you.
Chrysalis is the only one who deserves to be redeemed. I mean She was given the choice to evolve with her kind and lead as queen along with Thorax. But she threw it all away for revenge.
This is SUPER inportend on the last problem there’s a window that has the elements of harmony / that we’re not used to team them to stop in the frist place sooooo THAY DO COME BACK
You might actually be true! The queen probably had a bad past too. And I think she learned something through out her life. Later when she helped tirek and cozy glow, she felt something new. Friendship!
This is an excellent way of going about this! But I do hope that chrysalis dosent look like how she looks in the thumbnail, I think dark greens, dark teals, greenish teals, and greenish blues would work best for her since she is rekindling changling culture and past Changlings had colors like that
Oh and also it is possible to give her a color scheme like this since they kinda did that with pharynx (plus all that light and pastel color really dosent reflect her)
The hive the 1st one was better than it the new one.It would a good battle for the army of the human world the 1st one not the new one it would be a no a good battle
I think 🤔 I know who can replace Luna it’s It Obvious someone that reform , some one from the Human world, someone that can read minds , and Their name Rhymes with pun pet glimmer?
I love queen chrysaila she is the best best favorite villain I did lots of stories about her in this fandom is she turned good I would love to see that she's my favorite character of all the character
I have read a fanfiction where Discord was reforming the 3 villains but each of them with a different way and for Chrysalis it's pretty much like you said but without Thorax.
@Shadow Lycan Three second chances by TCC56 on Fimfiction. The story was great because it has explain why they were bad and the way to makes them gentle is differents for each person.
I think the only way to get Chrysalis to reform is to show her that a revolt was going to happen anyway sure thorax was the catalyst but it only happened because of the attack.
If it didn’t happen maybe some would get worried about thorax like maybe his brother or ocellus. And decide to spy on him. Only to be confused that thorax wasn’t draining the love. And maybe overhear a conversation about it like with Spike. They go back and reveal what they learn. Other changelings don’t believe and go check it out. Some won’t be able to accept it. And chryalis would have to deal with a divided hive. One that was ready to snap. Basically showing her that it was only a matter of time before she loses the hive and she was the only one to blame.
My issue with this is while chrysalis was wrong for not at least trying to get along with ponies she was still the queen of the changelings who's hive was usurped by what seems like a puppet . thorax in no shape or form is clearly meant to lead he just got the job because he's the one who lead the koo and was placed on the throne by celestia. In essence should chrysalis ever be reformed she goes right back to being the queen because there would be no hive or thorax without her
Chrysalis and changelings in the beginning before they were over reformed they had basically ate love and the ponies saw that as evil but that's not really evil it's not your fault that your only form of food comes in the form of lovr you I mean yeah Crystal was she was kind of an a**** but is that evil I mean like how you said she was mad at thorax for changing the hives cultural into Pony cultural and if some basically stripped me of everything that I believed in or I grew up with I would be a little mad yeah I get that the changelings they've done bad and I'm pretty sure that they probably killed people well ponies but still though like I never honestly thought they were really evil I mean yeah they're basically me Chrysalis and her Hive is being like real evil misunderstood as s*** but not evil
I really don't want her to be reformed. When you think of chrysalis you think of evilness. I just can not see her being good honestly. I love her design i don't really want to change that. What if she makes a deal with twilight or something. So she will learn friendship in return not being reformed. ((to be fair i dont think chrysalis really likes the new rainbow beetle designs lol)) So she can still keep her design. she would still be chrysalis mean and grumpy but she will learn friendship and be welcomed into society. so yeah i hope this makes sense... I daydream A LOT.. so yeahhhhh
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Jed Marie :*2020-07-13 15:17:30 (edited 2020-07-13 15:19:36 )
Chrysalis is pretty lol oh and the pharex or how you spell it sounds like me when i protecc meh friends
Wait do you remember that video about discord and the draconequus and stuff like that well when the sisters Celestia and Luna said the birth of a Alicorn is something equestria Has never seen And also Beyond even our understanding and stuff well equestria probably wasn’t even around then and Celestia and Luna were born ailcorns well well Equestria was around When fully was born so ya then is the first to be born A Alicorn in equestria
Omg. You know what I just realized!? What if the red goat guy is a human, like from the other world and got a hold of magic to he turned half goat! And he only stays in the pony realm bc they banished him from the human world!?
Um can you make a video about why there were a changeling at mathila wedding and if you ask why i Just Said mathilda becuse i cant remeber her husban name😂
Sawtooth waves did you watch the ending of My Little Pony friendship is Magic if you didn't make an episode of your show on YouTube talking about the ending then I think you should look dude I know you're a human pretending to be this fictional character what's the reason what do you gain they just want to entertain people need don't care if you lie or entertain and you want to make discussions and what ifs related My Little Pony friendship is Magic please tell them the truth that your fans who you really are
I love this idea and I think if this was canonized it would be absolutely awesome. However, in the episode “Times they are a Changeling”, Thorax said that all the Changelings’ used to do before he took charge was “hunt and patrol”. Even when arguing in favour of the “old days”, Pharynx confirms this, stating that “the hive used to be a fearsome swarm”. If you were going to reform Chrysalis and turn her into a cultural personality, you would need to provide an explanation for why Changeling culture was so underdeveloped, so you would need to dive into the history of the Hive, maybe even a flashback to Chrysalis’ tragic backstory and how she insists on taking love instead of giving back because it was the only way she acquire the love her own mother denied her (see Daughter of Discord by DisneyFanatic2364, the YouTube episodes give Chrysalis’ a beautifully heartbreaking backstory). Chrysalis is one of the most terrifying villains in MLP, both because she refuses to change and because we don’t know much about her. If you’re going to humanize a villain as black-and-white as her, it needs to have a really good story behind it.
That is awesome you did a theory video about Chrysalis! Thank you very much! I think it is a good idea based on your theory on how she would reform. Hopefully the season 10 comics covers something there.
I wanted Chrysalis to reform so bad. I love her so much. I agree though, the changelings kinda lost themselves, and this would be the perfect way to reform Chrysalis and bring Changelings their own culture. Its hard though, considering they were so hated for such a long time. They blend in on purpose, so its natural to want to adopt their pony neighbors behaviors as a means to fit in and be considered a good race.
While the Pharynx theory is good, I also think that if Twilight takes the Celestia approach she'll get Luster Dawn and all her friends of different species (maybe even a changeling will be a part of this) to aid in the reformations of all of them, instead of in different situations
90% of the reason I wanted Chrysalis to be reformed was because I wanted to see how she would look after she transformed. All the fanart I've seen of the concept is great.
I agree with you about her motivations, and that it would likely be the best way to go about reformation.
The only issue I have is with Chrysalis' "reformed" design. It really just looks way too much like a Changeling-ified Celestia. And since we want her to keep her old personality for the most part, it really doesn't fit her all that well.
I think one of the reasons the changelings abandoned their old culture so swiftly is because what little culture they had was almost exclusively geared towards work. Seeing the hive before the reform, there seem to be no amenities of any sort, just corridor upon corridor. And changelings don't really understand the concept of fun either, unless it's cruelty to one another, which is understandable when you remember that 'the hunger of changelings can never be satisfied', so changelings pre-reformation were essentially always starving, which means they weren't exactly inclined to being nice to eachother and risk giving away what little love they had. So when Thorax shows a new way, ever changeling jumped it because it meant no longer starving, and then they looked at their culture and realized their entire culture they'd lived so far was centred around hurting creatures, mostly for food, which with their newfound empathy terrified them and made them drop it, but leaving little if any actual changeling culture behind and making them reach out to pony culture to fill the void.
I really hope there's a chance for this show to be revived the new pony series is not my really favorite doesn't hold a lot of what I love about MLP I really hope that they bring out a new student and all that and like you said I want to see the other villains reformed but I'm thinking that new series might be a holdover until they can make the next one who knows, but your theory is great!
I think this will work or would if the creators of MLP friendship is magic would make another episode. I love Queen Chrysalis so much, I have a toy of her and a changeling too
I seem to like the comic i saw of twilight sparkle entering crysisy's dreams and making her go on a date as herself to learn that without changing she can be accepted or loved. baby steps to accepting others is accepting yourself.
My Cozy Glow theory They seriously need to make a Cozy Glow Origin because if you “tackle” her, you don’t have much to go off of because all we know is 1: She entered Ponyville out of the blue 2: She is terrifyingly intelligent for her age 3: Obviously wants to rule Equestria (like the others) She is really clever and even managed to lead the mane 6 far away with no magic so she could make her move... I feel like Cozy Glow is trying to spell something out here... When the six artifacts were all in place, she had to of learned them from Twilight’s school, right??! If not, then they neeeeed to make some sort of Cozy Glow’s Origin because if she did learn it from Twilights school, that means she just used them like a shortcut to rule Equestria. What I mean is, people can use you for only what they need you to spill up. But since they made a school out of it, they’re just giving out pretty useful information that if fell into the wrong hands (which it did) it could have devastating actions. So that’s probably JUST what Cozy Glow needed. Another thing, before Cozy Glow made her move, she was acting so innocent, and made people trust her. That is another thing that made her a dangerous villain. She had people trust her so if they had to choose, they wouldn’t pick Cozy Glow to be that crazy AND she’s a kid! She made a whole school of students trust her into making part of her plan work! She even made Princess Twilight Sparkle believe she was good. So if Cozy Glow gets freed..... Equestria better watch out because An intelligent girl like her can’t come close to trying to rule the world with her knowledge. And ANOTHER ANOTHER thing. Like you said Sawtooth, they can hear EVERYTHING happening. But I think it matters where they get put. So they can hear important stuff. I would talk about Tirek, but I think this comment is a little too long. Again Love your videos Sawtooth!! Great theories!
I mean the ponies arent colonizing them. It's more like acculturation. I think your reform idea is really good though. We could even have an arc where maybe Thorax doesnt want to be leader or becomes envious of Chrysalis immediately acceptance go slowly become an advisor. I would love to see the development of Changeling culture in general.
I'm not sure she'd be happy with anything other than complete power over the other Changelings. That's another stepping stone to get over before she could 'reform', her desire to be in control at all times.
Also, personal headcanon - Pharynx totally trained a couple of the other less-cuddly changelings to stand as the hive's army. :P
I had a similar idea/fanfic in mind : as Chrysalis rants and hisses about what the Hive had become without HER, thorax puts his hoof down and goes "I KNOW !!! We WANT you back dammit ! But NOT as you used to be ! Not a fearsome leader full of empty promises and schemes ! We want our queen ! ... If only you'd accept the change, join your people instead of crushing them..."
Also, total fanfic here : As Fluttershy explains one on one to Chryssy how she's trying too hard to be bad, how EVERY creature has bad AND good within themselves, but she's been actively repressing her good side, Chrysalis challenges Fluttershy to "show her bad side"... Fluttershy smiles, pushes angel out of the room, then walks next to a table with an apple basket on it. Chrysalis goes 50 shades of NOPE as crunching ans slurping noises can be heard, then Fluttershy serenely spits out the seeds back in the bowl. "Well ?" Chrysalis.exe error, please try again ;7
This should have been in the show and they still could've gotten grogar in as well by reforming the villains grogar would've been disgusted and attacked himself which would have led to his defeat
My two cents is that a key to help reform these three would look at the origins of their psychology.
From my perspective, Chrysalis is the embodiment of Greed. For most, some would have seen her as being privilege as she gets to collect more and more love to the point it seems endless. But, in a very painful, inconvenient truth for her, perhaps the origin of her Greed came from a background where there was a famine of love. For one to become greedy, they have to grow up or experience a time when such resources were very limited. Better for one to store up as much one can than starve. No one who really felt secure would require a greed for love. In other words, the origin of Greed is insecurity. Something to take into consideration when dealing with Chrysalis.
Terik, obviously, is the embodiment of Wrath. Most people tend to think that very angry people are very gloomy types - far from it! In truth, look beneath the anger, and you would find an optimist. It is in fact having too much hope that drives their anger. And when they find that all their hopes are dashed, when their fears have come true, they become angry. Anger is really an intense form of fear. It wouldn't make sense to tell Tirek that he's a terrible being - chances are, he might think this already. Instead, the best way to go about it is to look at what he's really afraid of.
As for Cozy... hers is tricky but perhaps the best interpretation is her lust for power. One has to have grown up in an environment where she had no power and no say in what goes on with her life. This could come up from a wide number of reasons from being ignored for too long, to being emotionally neglected, or simply never been listened to by those she needed to be heard the most from. The reason why one would love to be in power was that they knew what it was like to be powerless.
Hey so love your videos! Chrysalis is a hard subject! But in some episode we saw BABY changlings! So why do they need Chrysalis? I’m a changling my self but still.
I want her to be reformed just because of the design lol
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Life Nugget2020-07-11 11:09:54 (edited 2020-07-11 11:10:07 )
Wait... I'm not sure if u mentioned this but I remember you said on you previous video that there was this weird green pony picture on a locker right? I think I found him in an episode.... When rarity rereopens her canterloat boutique at the end when her friend(helps at boutique I forgot her name) hugs her, there's this big green pony that walks in HMMMM
This is very close to my own "what if" but I saw it more like she is very proud, and remembers events as Starlight and Thorax stealing her hive, and her race are all traitors. Our theories are the same in that you need Pharynx to reform Chrysalis, for many of the same reasons. But he could also help her see a new perspective. The hive wasn't stolen and the changelings aren't traitors. She ran away and if anything, she's the traitor. But Pharynx would want her to come back and find her new place, largely out of lingering loyalty and respect.
What bugs me is how she didn't realize its ultimately due to Spike befriending Thorax. It felt like Spike got robbed big time in To Where And Back Again. Having him get a big hand in helping Chrysalis reform would have been interesting.
I think Tirek might be easier to reform than anybody else because he seems childish in a strange way. Chrysalis has a painful past and Cozy glow is to manipulative. (I can't exactly remember) Because in a episode he had some sort of brother that was good. so maybe they could make Tirek's brother help reform him.
I also have an idea but about cozy glow She can be easily reformed by showing her that friendship is not only power and she may ho back to the school of friendship as a student and learn the real magic of friendship ! What do you think ?
Thorax:i think chrysalis should be my new royal adviser! Other advisers:*starting to sweat* are you sure your highness? Thorax:yes she is reformed! 1 year later Chrysalis makes a coup Thorax: Why? Why? You where reformed... Chrysalis: But does that mean my personality has to change? Does that mean i can't be Queen? Of cours not
there is also the fact that these three villains were provoked while discord was not. Discord was simply doing what he was born to do, friendship gave him a mind of his own in a way, friendship was the first real choice he had. But chrysalis at first was also only following nature, but she was provoked by ponies because she was beaten, later she was beat again but now everything was ripped away in an instant. So imagine this, you are doing what you think is right and basically what you were told To be your whole life, and by being just that everything you ever had was taken. In my opinion tirek would be the easiest. He is much more leaval headed in a way. He is most likely to understand, somewhat. He was punished for his desisions not nature. Cozy is a brat who most likely won't get till shes an adult and even then she can be a brat. For her just don't give her magic and your all fine.
Yo yo yo. I just realised something. The villains are the elements of witchcraft: Discord - laughter Chrysalis - honesty Sombra - kindness Tirek - loyalty Starlight - generosity. But that leaves Nightmare Moon, Pony of Shadows and Cozy Glow. Maybe Nightmare Moon doesn't have an element, Pony of Shadows is magic and Cozy Glow is all of the elements. Idk about these 3
the biggest issue with reforming any of them would be disappearing to parts unknown from what we know of equestria its an almost self sustaining kingdom with more than enough resources to stay afloat with no real reason to explore the world and bridge the cultures around it only close neighboring kingdoms are allied but what I am saying is the villains could go almost anywhere outside of equestra to gain great power
This picture in Derpibooru really got things political among ponykind, with Twilight already a big alicorn and also the ruling figure, it makes me wonder would she rethink of Cozy after seeing how she was terrified when she's about to turned to stone. https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2020/7/1/2388569.jpg
What if she isn’t reformable? She created her bugs on magic, love from ponies, so that magic which was taken from the ponies exists in the changelings (like dna) which made them reform.
Here's a thought. Just because they were frozen in stone together, does that mean that they have to be released from stone together too? If they can be released one at a time, that will work well in keeping them apart.
As for who could help to reform Chrysalis, I think Pharynx is a good first step. But I also think a good changeling to help would be Ocellus. Not in the sense that she would actively help her, but rather, Ocellus would have to face her fears. If it helps to reform Chrysalis, it can kill two birds with one stone. Ocelllus' greatest fear is becoming Queen Chrysalis. But why is she so afraid of Chrysalis? I mean, yeah, she's mean. But that's not much of an explanation.
In any case, let's say that Chrysalis doesn't reform at first. In comes Ocellus, who Chrysalis sees as a young and impressionable mind (although perhaps we may have to go with a daughter or something, considering the time skip). She convinces the child that she's good, and starts acting as a mentor while implanting subliminal messages. Chrysalis would work to put effort into making the child into her ideal version of a changeling. Or to be more specific, like her. But Chrysalis does too good of a job. Now Chrysalis has to deal with her own creation... herself. And Ocellus, with her fear of Chrysalis, has her fear distracted as she sees her own child turned into a Chryssie clone. Chrysalis sees just how cruel she is through the child, realizing just how hurtful she was to her own kind. She asks Ocellus for help. Though apprehensive, Ocellus agrees, since it is her child after all. Ocellus does most of the work, seeing as the familial relationship would be what brings the child back to her senses.
Chrysalis, seeing from the outside just how love was able to defeat her, is now conflicted. Despite the now wimpy changelings, she sees just how powerful a changeling's love actually is. Also, her time with that child has actually grown a bond. But we'll save that for later. This is where the interaction with Pharynx comes in. Again, she doesn't reform immediately, since she hasn't actually discovered love yet... or so she thinks.
She goes back to Ocellus to apologize. She apologizes to Ocellus for everything, including her fear of Chrysalis. And she apologizes to both of them for what she did to the child. Ocellus is still not over her fear. Seeing this, Chrysalis just turns to leave to apologize to the rest of the hive. But she's stopped. Not by Ocellus, but the child. The child then convinces Ocellus to at least talk. Seeing the child, the very one that she used for her own greedy purposes, the one that she had corrupted, was the one sticking up for her... a single tear runs down Chrysalis' cheek as she realizes that despite the original reason for using the child, she had bonded with her. She loved her. And then the metamorphosis happens.
And the rest is what's to be expected.
Did I just write the premise for a masterpiece fanfic?
Personally, I still believe that the villains' reformation should stick only to the realm of fanfiction. Because I still think it's satisfying to have villains that couldn't be reformed.
I mean, this is probably the most logical way to do it, but positive reinforcement should be included as well, giving rewards for good deeds instead of punishment for bad ones. This way, she would be more inclined to act good instead of going back to her previously evil ways. Simple animal training comes in handy sometimes.
the plan is a good one...cause lets be honest,Thorax may be good at helping others share thier feelings but he is not a confident leader If Chrysalis did return and see the hive under attack,possibly by that giant mole thing again I'm sure her instics would kick in and she would take the thing on...a tattsil ((i have no clue how to spell it)) worm "accidentally" misplaced by Discord could work too Gotta keep her pride in mind here. If one of the reformed,even a tough one was to actually hold thier own against her she would feel an even stronger need to obtain more power,but if she's in a situation where they need her,her insticts as a queen will kick in. If she's welcomed back after earning it,and realising she did it cause she cares for them...that may just be enough. Also it may just be me,but I would't want her colors to change,the rest of the redesign is good but she'd stand out way more if she kept her colors after the reformation.
You say the three kept dragging each other back, but I don't see it. Chrysalis was the one who kept dragging Tirek and Cozy along. Two times Tirek and Cozy looked about ready to give up in different ways. In Frenemies, they seemed about to embrace Friendship, but Chrysalis' tirade about what it does to people and how she 'saw' it happen made them afraid of the idea. Then in the end of The Ending of the End, Chrysalis spoke up in defiance after the three of them lost their power, and neither of them said anything. When Chrysalis raged about always returning, Twilight had a look on her face that seemed to convey that she was about to offer another chance, but it was snubbed before she could.
Out of all the reformed villains, Discord stands as an outlier because Celestia took a chance with him on account of seeing a need for his power in the future. Remember Celestia gets visions when she sleeps. She must have seen something that forced her hoof on the matter. Every other reformed villain has always come to some realization, or at least apologized for what they've wrought beforehand. Honestly when I think of the track record of MLP reformed villains, I'm reminded of the exchange in Dragon Ball Z Abridged where Goku lets Vegeta go, especially the bit at the end where Goku says to his friend who has Vegeta held at the point of a sword, "Let him go. If he's sorry, really sorry, then there's nothing we can do".
I personally dont like that reformed chrysalis look that much... I just feel like she needs more warm colors instead of all that blue,, But yeah i love the video !
First release cozyglow first, and before she can escape cast a spell to remove her cutiemark *which would prevent her ability to trick ponies since her mark was obviously linked to that*. Then she would be FORCED to understand true friendship, instead of being power. Tirek,,, Could be easy... Stick him in a cage with pinkie until he goes crazy xD
5:22 hopefully twilight DOESN'T choos to be like Celestia The only reason she wanted to reform discord was because of his power, and luna was her sister She never gave cozy, tirek, chrysalas, sombra, ect a second thought (she sent a little filly to hell) And her mentor (starswirl) kick his own friend out of the team and then send him to tarterus That's why it's better to be mortal, new people come with fresh fews on the world
Technically Stygian when he was the pony of shadows wasnt sent to tartarus but trapped in limbo. Then they were going to try and banish the pony of shadow's again. The sombra from the show is different then the sombra from the comics. The comic version had a better shot at redemption and actually did have it. Though not counting the mirror version. Tirek may be the kind of villain who can't be redeemed. And as for Cozy <shrugs> not enough info on her.
how about putting them against a harmony infused king sombra? i mean he is still somewhere out there maybe in limbo or who knows but he could study some things and then do like in that comic where he confronts twilight only to force her to use his magic against him, let's think about a scenario where this happens but is not about how she uses her magic but about how she rules equestria, naturally it will start with that fight over who is worse because they can control umbrum magic, but after that what if sombra actually show her what just happened and make a side comparation between hie rule over the crystal empire and her rule over equestria
3 comments: 1) I honestly hoped to see at least Chrysalis and Cozy Glow get reformed in the finale. 2) Tirek on the "other hoof" (according to what I can recall in the comics) I kinda saw him (and Tempest Shadow/Fizzlepop Berrytwist) as more like most anime (or even real life villains) are like. As in if they got into a losing situation while still at their most (like what the storm soldiers got into during the movie) and if the heroes try to be merciful by telling him to "never hurt any living creature for as long as you live;" I honestly think his last word would have been something like "ON MY HONOR! I PROMISE I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL AND LIVE, AT ALL COST!" 3) I think the best reasons why Chrysalis did not end up getting reformed though out the series was because; a] Like she said in "Frenemies" she attacked Equestria numerous times before and always found a way to escape her prisons and return. b] Like both the comic books and the series confirmed it "love" to her and any unreformed Changeling is like what "food and water" would be to like any other living creature and like Thorax said in the season 6 finale "Changelings are always hungry," which I guess meant that in some way unreformed Changelings are like caterpillars and maybe reformed Changelings are like Butterflies.
Isn't the sun a star so if Princess Celestia can control the sun doesn't that means you can control the Stars so any villain trapped in the stars would be able to escape and at that moment she was also controlling the moon so should be able to let Princess Luna out but this is just my hypothesis I wouldn't she be able to grow got out of his present in the stars she's like a villain out before shot him out of stone to create balance in the scale what to say she won't do the same with grow
Discord was free from his prison cause of a fight of a friendship and he is also turn to stone by the magic of friendship so it still make sense in 'general'.
Now we're talking about freeing those 3, they are frozen by the power of sun, moon and chaos. Now dis complicate things also the power of the artifact is strong but can it defeat chaos? Chaos is like untamable right? What do u think?
Threaten to sacrifice her to Rarchord Grarchordson. If she doesn't listen, sacrifice her to our lord and savior Celestia because I REFUSE to support Rarchord Grarchordson's vile actions.
Ok so I have a theory that is out of the blue, does not connect at all with this, and I’m not even sure if you’ve covered this since I am new to this channel, but if you haven’t, please hear me out. I’m not going to be super specific, since I can’t really be, so just bear with me😅. The mane 6 got their cutie marks at the same time, what a coincidence, or is it? They never really address this issue, they sort of brush it off. I don’t think it just happened, what if cutie marks, please no hate, are not earned when you find out what your passion is, or what not, what if it’s destiny, or some part of it, and everyone has one, big or small. Here is why- The mane 6 got their cutie marks, at the same time as when Rainbow Dash did the sonic rainboom, everyone DID display their element, there is always that, sure. But, it’s not exactly right. You never know, they could have displayed their element so many times in the past, they might have better yet done it in the future, but they all got it, at this specific moment, where Rainbow Dash did the impossible, the legend. And if you think about it, cutie marks are already determined at birth, cuz I’m pretty sure nomader what, they would have had this cutie mark anyway, so like I said before, destiny. And you might argue about how they showed their element, which is their cutie mark, ok then, true, but- Let’s look at Twilight Sparkle as an example, sure she did magic, her element, but let’s be real, she’s not exactly magic more friendship, and the only reason she was able to do that, was when the sonic rainboom happened, I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t have done it without the help of the rainboom, where’s the friendship in that? Fate/destiny, whatever, choose the moment, where they were, in a way, all lined up together, all together to show case the elements, in a way🤔. They all saw the rainboom, or did it(aka rainbow). Also, it could have been just about anyone, but that rainboom made everyones paths match, so they were the... correct candidates? And now that I think about it, what about everybody else, they saw it, and though their is no proof, I’m pretty sure nothing happened to them. You might say, they didn’t do it at the same time, maybe not, but it mostly was. And about everyone else, I don’t have much evidence on them, and I probably got some things wrong, I’m not an expert, it’s just a theory😅 If you made it all this way, thx, please tell me what you think, not sure if he’s gonna see this, but I needed to take a shot, right?
1:04-1:14 Um, no, that's entirely your opinion on things. Side note to your side note: Magical effects can sometimes take on the form of electricity. The Sisters agreed to turning the villains to stone with Discord, not blasting the cupcake for him; something pitifully easy for any mage with marginal skill. It's a cupcake for crying out loud.
I wouldn't attribute the loss of changeling culture primarily to pony colonialism; I'd attribute it more to changelings wanting to distance themselves from an unpleasant past. Under Chrysalis, the changelings did a lot of bad things and life was bad (as evidenced by how quick most changelings were to follow when Thorax offered a better way). The changelings don't want anything to do with that. Think for example of modern Germany; it is illegal to do things like display Nazi symbols or deny that the Holocaust happened, because modern Germany does not want a repeat of Hitler and does not want there to be any ambiguity about them being anti-Hitler. The changelings presumably feel similarly, but unlike Germany they don't have any past that predates Chrysalis. All of their original culture is tainted by association, and while they are throwing the baby out with the bathwater to some extent it's not just Thorax doing the throwing.
And on a related note, I doubt it's the loss of culture that Chrysalis is really against. It's the loss of power. Chrysalis is a proud queen, used to being feared and obeyed without question, and I really don't think that's changed in the time since she was deposed. She's not wrong, either, that she could never reclaim that sort of absolute power if she accepted friendship into her life; friendship requires accountability to others. And that's not to mention how she presumably associates friendship with those she hates most and still desires revenge against: Thorax and Starlight, who brought friendship in to ruin her hive. That means that as long as she believes she can get revenge and reclaim her rightful throne she'll never let herself be reformed. She needs to be broken down to her base parts, because proud Queen Chrysalis can never get what she wants with friendship and so has no incentive to change. Only once she has given up completely can she be rebuilt into a harmonious member of society.
Reforming Chrysalis would not be a pleasant process for anycreature involved.
I have a idea for a new video but first let me tell you that when I was watching your previous video's I just noticed you said sunset shimmer is or could be the 5th alicorn but you forgot flurry heart and what if sunset shimmer bumped into her human self
I don't want Chrysalis to be reformed. She is wonderful as she is. A changeling. A queen. A mother. A warroir. Thorax is an effing traitor and usurper, and must be demolished
dr ravi trivedi2020-07-11 10:49:54 (edited 2020-07-12 11:38:10 )
When cozy glow will be free se will be a little grown up like CMC...... If mean 3 will be free maybe they will get a chance or.....maybe not or....well no one is sure ....the thumbnail you have put is so beautiful I love your & dr wolf's channel you are awwwwwwwwsome 😊😊😊😊
Hey i had this throught about equestria girls. For every pony theres a human variation. However sunset originally was a pony and became human when going through the portal and yet we never see the humans worlds version of sunset. We only see the pony turned to human. Why is that?
Wait if you go back to season 8 of my little pony then you find cosy gloya reason why she is evil, and sunset shimmer or starlight glimmer can reform her
Remember that ep where twilight said who that than Celestia said the lost princess of the empire that cadence ruled ya ee all new that was her so maybe she will only look slightly different than right now that might be her reform
feeling disgusted by the idea of Chrysalis being reformed and is against it That's the most foolish idea I ever heard! No reforming for Chrysalis, after what she did to Princess Celestia in the 2 part episode, "The Royal Canterlot Wedding", she doesn't deserved to be reformed and she deserved to be turned to stone!
I have to question for you I think shining armor won’t be an hour, because he’s frayed of heights want to fly he’ll never fly and second question is I think not not starlight glimmer going to be a Alcorn I saw the future there’s a best student of twilight I think she will be at the Alcorn that I will think FYI there is any reason about it make it in a video
I got it theory what if the change form now is were original form but They were cursed In some sort of way to make them look like they were before. But who curse them and why. Just something I was thinking about.
This is about reforming Cozy glow so what if shes evil because her entire family died i mean its makes since since she is just a filly and has no guardian if she did she wouldn't become evil unless her parents were abusive that would also make sense
What could have happened to Chrysalis did did your video come true or is she still evil and she doesn't want to change like all the other reforms changelings oh and by the way is I'm sorry for like commenting so late I actually lost my phone sorry but what if since terick was like wait gave French like they were bonding with friendship when they went to get girl guards Belle and maybe she wants to change or she still wants a secret revenge or what could have have a T-Rex and cozy glow do they want to change maybe well if the villains broke out of the stone like discord did at least one of the nieces change I mean Chrysalis can still rule rule her pack right well T-Rex could help discord with whatever he does all day and cozy glow can help twilight with the school or maybe even help princess Celestia and princess Luna so they don't fight again what's going to happen to the changelings please make another video quick but T-Rex he doesn't have his magic where will he get it The magic of friendship okay so T-Rex can I don't know just like run around or something but he still has some magic cuz he has friends right
How abaut you satooth make the new sezon of my little pony frendship is magik I think you wood have excellent ideas you are still making videos and imagening thet there's going to be a nother sezon and the ideas are very good I now that it's hard to do them but we fans will apresheade the work that you put in
But one thing that still confuses me if if you get them out of that stone what how would you separate them this Discord can be there for each one of them but how you going to keep them in one area T-Rex can steal Magic cozy glow is small in a Philly and can fly how do you keep them contained that's what I want to know
No offense, but is this why Japan appreciates American culture so much? Do they think their prewar culture is that associated with imperialism and colonialism?
Really I've nothing to say but that's the only way that I think that's gonna happen by pc by pc by that make her feel loved for big kids oh racks or whatever his name is yeah so racks and show him and Tell her I have him tell her the story and what Is that all the name with love and all he lost his hunger for for love Have him say the more that they have them or if they want it the less that can get
Are you trying to be rude but there’s no way you’re going to be reformed because these villains are in in in toilet is that means the cake if you split them apart so just find a way to get together again and make more chaos
Oh my goodness, when will I get used with Sawtooth Waves?? Every time I see you post a video, my first thought is "The Brony Notion!" And then "...wait, no-".
Anyway, I like the idea of them being reformed and I agree with your way of doing it. Changeling culture is a mystery and it's a pity to not get to know it. Chrysalis could be the one to change things
Okay so, I have another theory. The Young 6 all do represent the elements of harmony. If you look at the last episode where at the end when they sang the song magic of friendship and at the end showed all Characters that resembles too the mane 6 chacters. So SilverStream represents the element of laughter, this actually makes total sense because In a lot the episodes You can see, how she wants everyone to be happy and always makes everyone laughs, just like pinky. Yona represent honesty, she is always honest with he group and in ever episode we have seen in her, she always never afraid to speak the truth. Smolder represents loyalty, the way she’s loyal within In the group and in most of the episodes when some one gets in trouble, she’s the first one to Volunteer to pay the same price as them, and just go back to the episodes and you can see her loyalty. Sandbar represents kindness, I’m School Daze he was the one, the only pony In the school you really wanted to be with the other creatures, and also just go back to all the other episodes he acts literally just like flutter shy. Ocellus represents Generosity, I’m one episode you can see her giving her friends notes 📝 for the hw, and always helping them study and etc, u can see in the episodes how she resembles rarity. Well, the last one I don’t have a clue, the last one points to Gallous idk how he represents magic, but he’s some one resemblance to Twilight. Please give to a like so He can see it!
One I love the reform chrysalis design two I feel like chrysalis would be the harder of the 3 to reform and while I agree with the culture thing I think another reason chrysalis doesn’t wanna embrace friendship is because she feels abandoned by her people let’s face it her whole character was all about keeping her and her subjects alive though feeding suddenly thorax comes along with friendship and changes everything her subjects no longer need her to live I think that feeling of abandonment and betrayal is the root of why she remained a villian she wanted her people back so that above everything else has to be tackled for her to be reformed
Such a great video. Glad that someone finally pointed out thorax's not very good leadership. I can't wait for cozy glow's and tirek's video I really wanna see how to redeem them
You know we never see or hear about them or the statue in the final episode so its possible they could have been released and reformed during the time jump
I like this idea a lot! I’ve always found it sad that the changelings thought they had to emulate pony culture since they lost all of theirs. This is what the hive needs: their identity back!
Didn't Changeling culture involve stealing love from other creatures, though? If so; then, it IS a good idea that Thorax abolished it. Such tactics are pretty evil, any way you look at it
Why is my only thought "What if the prince of light(aka Flurry Heart) is reforming one of the villains using the crystal heart in the stained glass window?"
Erase their memories and then teach them about friendship and tell them about who they were before. After, you can either choose to give them their memories back or keep them the same.
Tirek got his powers from the Staff of Sacanas. How: a piece of the staff’s crystal broke out & went down the throat of ether a very young Tirek or his mother while she was still pregnant with him. This also happen to Sendak the Elder. Evidence: the staff can preform the same magic as Tirek, in an unused prologue for the movie reveals that the Storm King stole the staff from an older version of Scorpan, Tirek’s younger brother.
What could also help us getting to know her psyche. Getting to know her from a psychological point of view will help her see that they're not just out there to reform her like the others were. Let's see... From a more psychoanalytic perspective, we have to get to know how where her hunger for vengeance and control come from. Where did she come from? Where is her original hive? Did they grow up to be similar to Chrysalis? What were her parents like?
From a more trait point of view, we can see that there's some biological and genetic factors that lead to her possessiveness, anger, denial, etc. It's innate in their biology to hunger for love. So, since might steal it to satisfy their hunger. Some, like Thorax and his kingdom, is to live one another. Their hunger is satisfied. The biggest and most important thing to her reformation from this perspective would be starving for love. As dark as it is, Thorax and Pharynx could slow Chrysalis that kind of love and friendship. For her to hear that this is how they've felt when the juice was stealing love from others. She would feel that spark of friendship forming in her, firm that friendship and promise to share the love. That's when she would transform.
From a behavioral viewpoint, it's purely looking at what she's learned from her previous hive. How she learned to take that love from others and helping her slowly learn to share the love and create that love for her hive. It would take a lot of trial and error, as learning to do something new takes time and positive reinforcement. She's learned to take that love, it will be hard for her to learn to give love to others.
Finally, the social cognitive aspect of personality theory. Simply by observing others giving that love. She needs to observe how to make those changes for herself. Throughout her life, she has seen her old methods work time and time again, but she hasn't taken into account that her subjects hunger wasn't truly satisfied. They were always hungry. And to bring that aspect where she learns after ages presented with that information from Pharynx and Thorax would help her truly see that her subjects were right to reject her old ways as now, they're never hungry. She wants to not feel that hunger for love anymore and accepts the new way of life while teaching the hive about their history.
I agree with your idea for Chrysalis' reformation. Actually, the whole first part of the video, I was hoping you'd bring up tsunderebug (Pharynx), because he represented the balance between the warriors they used to be and the lovebugs they became. It's a great idea that Pharynx is the one that could help Chrysalis embrace friendship. I'm looking forward to seeing the reformation ideas for Tirek and Cozy.
Now that you mention it, this could work with her. Have like a messenger that was the most stubborn on reforming actually confront Chrysalis and showing that there are different types of friendship. At least she could help reconnect the past of she gives up her tyrannical thoughts and disgust of ponies and friendship.
I think you're forgetting the fact that Chrysalis doesn't just want her subjects back but she also has the inevitable desire to consume love from whoever she meets. I guess to fully reform her, you would also have to tackle her belief that consuming love is the only way to go.
You said once in the Changeling Civil War video, that Thorax couldn't lay eggs for the changelings. And, you are right. Kings can't lay eggs, only Queens. In theory, all the changelings could possibly go extinct if Chrysalis doesn't reform. 😬 I think Twilight needs to step up her game quick...
It would help if we knew more of Her Majesty's back story, and about Changelings in general. Is there only one hive? If so, why? Why has it taken until now for the Changelings to find out about their ability, even destiny, to change into the love sharing form? I wonder about the future of the Hive, if the Changelings are modeled after social insects, as they appear to be, then the Queen is the ONLY egg layer, which means that the hive literally is made up of her sons and daughters. If true (I said "if") then for Chrissy this is way personal beyond just being about her having command and control, she's literally been cut off from her family. It also means that with no new changelings being born the clock is already ticking down to extinction for the hive. That might explain why why she wants the hive back so much instead of just starting a new one. Of course she's going about it all wrong, but that's what she has to get her head around yet. And her heart.
It's an interesting idea but the issue is that Changeling culture was being starving drones and that's how Chrysalis liked it cause that meant she was always in charge. The Changelings embraced their new culture because it allowed them to be free and individual. Chrysalis pushed a culture of hostility and insular paranoia.
I mean do we really know what Changeling culture was before Chrysalis's rule? For all we know they were similar to Ponies in the beginning but over time Queens sought to take only love and not embrace it thus turning them into the creatures that hungered after love and became aggressive and actually distant from their original identities. I could see Thorax and Pharynx finding this out with help from Twilight and anyone who would know about the Changelings of old and help to either fight back Chrysalis and help her see the truth or to just let her see the truth without fighting.
Hey Sawtooth Waves It could be possible that Chrysalis might have sisters with their own hives and might of found different emotions to feed on but might have side effects depending on the emotion they eat and they might want to fight Thorax for what he did to Chrysalis but it is just a theory that I am giving you an idea of if you catch my drift
That's an interesting theory. But here is a problem I have with the idea of reforming the 3 of them. That even after being fully reformed, I would certainly not want to have the 3 of them ever gathered together again. It would not take too much for a trigger to set them back down a path together towards evil. But herein lays a possible answer in Tirek. He is old, not by Discord's Standards but old enough to pre-date Nightmare Moon. If Cozy and Crysalis could be reformed, then Cozy could live out her days before they release Tirek and risking her Influence on him. He is pretty smart when he's not letting the power control him, but I don't think it would be wise to have her voice in his ear again. On the flip side, he has now been defeated 3 times. That would give him some pause for reflection if he had the opportunity to talk it out without risking him getting any power. As such, Discord would be the ideal to handle this. As for Cozyglow? How can you reform that twisted mind? She's a manipulator, even Starlight would have her hands full trying to deal with that mess and she's an expert.
Another reason why the hive needs Queen Chrysalis is so that she can keep giving birth to changelings, because all of the changelings are siblings and they can't have babies because of that.
Your idea about reforming chrysalis make a certain amount of sense. Pharyx could be the key to reforming chrysalis as he is probably the only one who could do it. But it also shows that there really needed to be different changeling hives with there own queens who didn't copy some pony traditions an kept fully changeling while being friendly with ponykind. as for reforming the three unfreezing them one at a time would be the best option that way you still have two frozen if the first goes rogue.
This is a really good theory, but I’m a big Cozy Glow fan, so I can’t wait for that one! But when Cozy Glow almost killed Twilight Sparkle, I was the most exited, sorry Twilight fans...
Well Thorax said that all the changelings did before was hunt and patrol, so they wouldn’t have any good ways to come back to. And I don’t think it’s acting like ponies, they just like some of the things ponies did and decided to do it themselves. And we didn’t see any kind of houses or anything, and plants grow everywhere, so that’s some non pony things they do.
For cozy glow...she went evil because she thought she had the power to do so. So maybe she should be showed to a friend group with no magic (unless unicorns, or pegasus: so rule the out the main 6, the young six, and the cutie mark crusaders because they all had at least one experience with powerful friendship magic) spending time with them and not gaining anything magic related out of it she may realize the real friendship, cozy was more then willing to be friends with everyone even her partners in crime, that’s not the problem, the problem is what she thinks it can do. Maybe Tula Rula and Coconut Cream would be a good fit???
The very concept of family is what could finally get to these three. Tirek hates his family, Chrysalis misses her family, and Cozy.....well, let's assume she has none. Tirek needs to make amends with his brother who he hates for "betraying" him (and probably also his father due to what Tirek said about Vorak), Cozy Glow either needs to find her parents if she has any, or accept a new family consisting of some of the protagonists, and Chrysalis needs to reunite with the hive and accept the fact that her loyalty to them is more important than how "good" she might have to be.
I have a thought but it's about the turning to stone thing theory (forgive my spelling) so when they froze discord all it took was a little fight to set him free so maybe it will take a bigger fight to set them free because they used way more magic then they did on discord they used discords magic too and discord is REALLY powerful we saw all his magic when terek drained it and discord can make the world look like chaos with the snap of his fingers. Thats all I would really like if you explained this in one of your videos.
I can definitely see why she considers it a sickness. Once they accepted it they all physically changed. I think another problem is that she felt betrayed by the hive. She had been in charge for a long time after all. One reason why I love her as a villain is that she is the most relatable. She isn't "evil" for the sake of it (at least not at first...) she was "evil" so she could feed her hive. The first time we see her she points out the reasons for her taking over was for the hive and not just for her personal reasons. She feels they survived for as long as they did because of her. So when they threw her away seemingly it must have felt like a huge slap to her face. (And to her ego...) I don't think only getting her to see that their new image isn't as bad as she thinks would be enough. You would have to make her see that the changes were an improvement and that she was still needed and wanted. She IS their mother after all...
I think part of the problem is that changelings most likely had no culture to begin with? As in, the original changelings had no culture I can't imagine them having holidays or birthday celebrations or any type of celebrations whatsoever Their objective was to survive and feed off
So maybe instead of taking from pony culture they should have created their own?
What if the royal sisters didn't destroy the cupcake, but teleported it to the other place so they could eat it later? This sounds much more like a true
after the reformation, Chrysalis would aid Thorax in ruling the Changelings. but it's only a matter of time before the two speak of things of another matter, and from the council to the royal bedroom. get the hint? E.G they would become lovers and a proper power couple with an heir or two to succeed them. after all the importance of a royal dynasty is to have a lot of descendants to carry on your legacy.
Sounds like cozy cuz everyone in the My Little Pony Universe act like children like what Cozy did understand the magic of friendship I mean she went to the school of friendship what if reforming she had to do it on her own like you have to know how to get well with yourself before you can get well with other people maybe she just going to school bus work Media destroy the fun and being friendly like when she was a villain shoes free to do what she wanted
That makes sense, but I wanna know Cozy's parents, i mean like she's a pegaus so her parents should be pegasi... i read my My Little Pony Character Guide which it haves all of the ponies of questria, i read all of the info about Cozy Glow but it says nothing about her parents or a picture about them Cozy Glow in three words: subtle, persuasive, opportunistic Nothing much about her in the book so i search Google I saw Cozy Glow's parents but i don't think its real... her dad's skin colour is blue and his mane is also blue, just like Cozy's... her mom's skin and mane colour is light red, her eyes are darker red, just like Cozy's. Her big brother's skin colour is blue just like his dad, its strange that his eye colour is blue🤔, more starnge his mane is purple. I think its his mom and his dad combined their hair into purple, coz u know, red and blue makes purple, i know. It combines red and blue mane into purple mane... I searched Google once more for her parents and her brother names but there was nothing... Also we havent seen her parents or her brother in I think in Season 8 or 9, i dunno i didnt watch that season yet, even tho im a fan of My Little Pony😆😆😆 👇Like this comment if you agree😸😸😸
About the changing conspiracy video there is evidence that they are asleep because in the mlp movie when tempest was unstoned she seemed to have no idea that the storm king was gone and there is evidence that it is temporary because as you said it was only discord who cast the spell and discord is less powerful than the elements of harmony and they only cast a temporary spell.
Reforming those three will be a dangerous thing to do but I’m not afraid to reform those three, because I accept that as a challenge. Perhaps I can start with Queen Chrysalis first so I will propose to her on Halloween.
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Explorer Vale2020-07-11 01:42:18 (edited 2020-07-11 01:44:20 )
Something to delve into should be why the Changelings attacked Equestria. If they’ve been around for a few thousand or even just a few hundred years, then shouldn’t they have already had a stable kingdom? Did something force them out of their old home, something that didn’t use magic? It is never really explained why Chrysalis invaded the Royal Wedding other than to feed her hive.
But, if changelings used to always be starving and played mostly infiltrator roles, why did they suddenly expose themselves to the spotlight? Chrysalis is an experienced Queen, her ability to manipulate ponies with just words was pretty impressive. I still find it hard to believe that a manipulator of that level didn’t have a back up plan for the wedding. She must have weighed the risks that could come with trying to challenge Equestria considering it’s rulers can move the freaking sun and moon!
(Honestly, I have a feeling Luna may have been replaced or investigating something important during her absence in the invasion.) Spending time on the throne making her arrogant doesn’t seem like a reason. She must have had to deal with the constant worry her hive is always starving, that nymphs soon to be born will have to be raised starving as well not to mention her own hunger. The power which she has easily outclasses a drone. Chrysalis probably needed to eat at the very least twice the amount normal changelings do. We have seen at first that she is willing to perform infiltration herself for big operations.
Sorry for going on kinda a rant, but this has been a kind of issue that’s never resolved in the show. Also the fact that supposedly Thorax the only nice changeling to be born. There must have been another changeling in history to have defied a Queen. There’s that one the artifact belonging to a changeling, she looked like an non-transformed changeling and had a powerful enough artifact to be involved in an effort to banish all magic from Equestria. (How Tirek even knew how to banish that much magic, about the artifacts, and that alchemic type circle used in the scheme is still a mystery)
Imagine they made a season 10 out of nowhere showing the next six thrive and the main six rule . Oh and some shippers dreams might come true like , Pinky and Cheese , Spike and Rarity , flutter shy and discord and finally get rainbow and twilight a stallion . It's my dream
I think Chrysalis doesn't want to reform because she thinks friendship makes you weak. Her hive didn't just loss their way, to her, they also lost their strength, and she's right about both points...not only do they not know what to do with themselves now, they are also consequently weak. You got one part of her motive right, but you left out the other, which was *strength*. As for reforming her...even the one guy (forgot his name) saying yeah they're lost without you, wont make her see that friendship is a good idea...to convince her that friendship doesn't weaken you, she has to see how it strengthens you...her hive is the best way for her to see it, but without them trying to be ponies... Think about what made the Changelings fierce, add that to the equation. I'm afraid that it comes down to her thinking friendship makes you weak, because it's not something that you're suppose to fear...where as with Changelings, that's a force which you are suppose to fear...Chrysalis may know this...if so, she cannot be reformed.
I actual think that chrysalis is right something wrong with the speed and aggressiveness of the change in the changelings some dark magic was going on there.
The better question is.... where is Cosmos? She made Discord shit his pants in the comic, maybe next movie? She is by far more powerful then even full power Tirek or Grogar so yeah...
You should really make an animation of the villains becoming good ( maybe have a family with each other cozy glow the adopted ) Edit: pls like for sawtooth to see or anything else
I fully agree with you that Chrysalis' issue with Friendship is due to a major psychological hand up. Though I disagree about friendship not being the issue. Friendship genuinely IS the problem. Chrysalis had her entire Hive - her children taken from her by The Magic of Friendship. That is a major stumbling block to work through.
And I agree that a Reformed Changeling might be the Key. Though I'm not sure anyone from the Hive would be able to pull it off. Pharynx is fierce true, but until recently, the only authority any of the Hive knew was Chrysalis. That's going to play merry havoc with dynamics.
If one were to suppose that there USED to be other hives, and that they are all but extinct, a still surviving Changeling, one who remembers days when the Reformed state was a normal part of growing up, that could be a good person to help her.
They took after ponies so much because they only thing they did before transforming was defending the hive and starving looking for food. They most likely took after ponies because they were the only other species that showed kindness and friendship. I doubt that the changings even have any traditions
The only dislikes are from Brony Haters, Cozy Glow, and Tirec Because no one eles could dislike such an amazing idea Really great theory!
P.S. I think a theory on how starlight looks like flurry heart could be cool, my theory is that they are related, we never meet Starlight's mother after all, what if it was Cadence!?
(Sorry for bad english) I thing that if Chrysalis was relesed, she would try to hurt thorax or even Twilight. So to reform Chrysalis we need new friend or friend who had similar problem. Becouse all the reformed villians have friends like these... It would just be cool if Chrysalis acepted friendship of Starlight after some problem in changeling kingdom... Some examples of friends of villians... Discord- Fluttershy Starlight, Sunset- Trixie (Luna- Celestia)
I think that discord could erase all of their memories and take them back to the kingdoms they came from and tell the residents there to be inclusive to the villains and not be scared of them
Discord could. But he wouldn't do that. He could take the memories from the princesses themselves if he wanted to. But to do so would be to take away the identity from the creature against its will. This is what Twilight wanted to do with Discord. But Discord won't do that
I have a better theory on Pinkie Pie my theory is that before discord was turned into stone his plan was to send out Orbis of his magic to pony's so if something went wrong someone else could take his place but at the very moment before 🌕and 🌑 turned him to stone he was able to send one of his Orbis then after almost 1000 years later Pinkie Pie is born from that moment the Orbis land on her nose and she now has a piece of discords now you might have a lot of questions but let me finish my theory on the day of the rainboom not only does she get her cutey mark but the Orbis inside her start to go into action when she is happy discords magic goes into action when she is sad she goes back to normal and that basically explains everything and that's my theory it's the best theory I got for Pinkie Pie
When cozy glow attacks cantorlot the sisters try to do something but cozy takes there magic in season 3 the crystal empire part 1 celestia and Luna banish him. Look how they banished him there magic combined and that's what they did in season 9. Where celestia and Luna trying to banish her? And that's my theory.
I think it can be done, but chrysalis is very stubborn and her dislike to what changelings have become is not the only thing that she opposes so if she is forced into it, I think she most likely will go insane or get turned back to stone or something of the sort. 1:08 this is far from clear, you can see discord's magic blowing away the cupcake too, it's very possible that discord's magic aura fade's away differently than ponies. In my opinion the sisters and discord can't do that by themselves(turn powerful beings(minus cozy) to stone for eternity without the elements) and they managed to do it only because they used the spell(or spells) at the same time together. Whatever happened after the show is up to anyone's interpretation, I prefer to believe they stayed in stone for a very long while, maybe even forever, it's a harsh punishment but it feels right to me. Some beings are irredeemable, like these 3(I would say especially chrysalis, even after she was defeated for the last time she just stayed mad while the other 2 cowered), sombra and the storm king(I would have included nightmare moon too but we simply know to little about her, and she probably does not exist anymore).
Mange chrysalis doesn't want to be reformed because she's scared if she might she might make friends and they might use her and just be awful friends to her so in my guess she's holding back on it bc she doesn't want to feel used and alone (and maybe that's what turned cozy bad and her maybe) but that's just my guess
Dude I just got you one thing if you want to dig in. Okay so in the human word there are 6 “elements” but in phoney world there is 5 how? And how is the six?
I think : 1. The theory is awesome ! I can totally see Chrysalis accepting the magic of friendship after seeing Pharynx ! 2. I still wish this theory never come true ( or at least for Tirek / Cozy Glow ) Because I find it's a good lesson that "not everyone can be reform and they are evil not because of particular reasons"
Wait this video was posted just 2 hours ago dude that's crazy. I saw the other video I just wanted to say that it's this crazy that this video was posted 2 hours ago and I'm seeing it right now on the same day that it was posted
Chrysalis always said "The hive..." rather then "me" so she did love her kids a lot
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She just didnt knew how to express it
327 likesCause she’s like a 👑🍯🐝.
210 likes@Unicorn Fairy yes
54 likes@Unicorn Fairy I think chrysalis will never have a place again.
45 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 🤔 That sounds logical.
23 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Pinkie Pie- Hey Spike I got a to tell you.
31 likesSpike- Ok Pinkie I’m ready.
Pinkie Pie- Why did 👑 Chrysalis go to Zecora?
Spike- 🤷♂️.
Pinkie Pie- To see if she has hives!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Spike- Ohhhhhhhhh I get it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Unicorn Fairy 🍭 pinkie pie? Spike? 🎀
11 likes@Unicorn Fairy but we are talking about chrysalis and thorax.👑🏰
10 likes@Unicorn Fairy not the mane 6 and their dragon.
8 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 I was making a joke
11 likesvery funny haha! but how can chrysalis make it up for thorax?
7 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Possibly
3 likes@Unicorn Fairy possibly what.
1 like@Unicorn Fairy she likes bumble bees.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 She could apologize to him
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy but even if she apologizes to him he still wouldn't forgive her. But He does seem to miss her though.
1 like@Unicorn Fairy she was mad that her son thorax betrayed her and left her hanging in the forest of the everfree.
5 likes@Unicorn Fairy but she does miss her baby boy thorax and just want to make it up to him. But how can she be a better mother for him?
1 like@Unicorn Fairy both thorax and pharynx have an older sister named larynx Both celestia and Luna have a younger brother named stariotwinklio and both smolder and garble have to middle siblings named flame and fire. Flame is a boy and fire is a girl and they are both twins with fire being a little older than flame by 29 minutes.
1 like@Unicorn Fairy gallas is in love with silverstream and yona like taramar her little brother and Gabriella is gallas's younger sister.
1 likeocelus and pharynx hang out with sandbar and smolder and Garble and Luna and Thorax hangs out with ember and Celestia and Chrysalis hangs out with twilight and spike and rarity and the whole mane 6 when she is with sawtooth and his older sister larynx.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜💖
0 likesOk you made me think chrysalis is nice
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy how is thorax going to set this right with chrysalis?
1 like@Roblox Sunshine poor changelings.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 By having a talk between mother and son.
1 like@Unicorn Fairy but he was never her son.
1 like@Unicorn Fairy how can chrysalis apologize to thorax?
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy she never bothered to ask him what he wanted
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Oh come on! All of the changelings are her children!
1 like@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 By saying I’m so sorry over and over again or trying to earn her son’s respect.
1 like@Unicorn Fairy I guess she was mad at the mane 6 and their dragon for taking her home away and her babies and her everything.
1 like@Unicorn Fairy but she never bothered to ask them what they wanted.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy but that's assuming that pharynx isn't one of her children.
1 like@Unicorn Fairy ocullus is not one of her children because neither her mother nor her father are queen chrysalis's children.
3 likes@Unicorn Fairy also she is now ex queen of the castle.👑🏰
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy I wouldn't feel too sorry for her. She did want to crush the changelings under her hoof.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy but one good thing is that she is gone. So don't worry that is one thing I am sure of.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy so in her journal if there is nothing else then that must be the last thing she wrote before she left the hive.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy I insect can mother hundreds but that just not possible for humans.
0 likesI have a head theory. First, those aren't her children. Mostly because of the introduction of thorax and his brother, (why doesn't he call other changelings his siblings?) So maybe her role is more to over look the grubs to see what jobs they would be good at. And second, what the changelings got reformed into was actually their original form. But something turned them cruel and love hungry between back then and now so they became the changelings from the earlier seasons.
0 likes@UmbreonTwinkle interesting
2 likesExactly
0 likes@HECXHOCK Games totally.
2 likes@HECXHOCK Games but lots of people love horses.
2 likes@Unicorn Fairy poor chrysalis and why did thorax have to replace her?
3 likes@UmbreonTwinkle what do you think starlight started it by taking her children away.
3 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 FRRRR SHE WAS ONLY LOST NOT EVIL!
3 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Yeah she totally deserves that.
3 likes@Unicorn Fairy now she can't go back because the changelings do need her anymore.
3 likes@HECXHOCK Games not even thorax will let her back in the hive.
3 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 I know right? It’s so sad!
3 likes@HECXHOCK Games even if she did care about the hive she clearly as no place there anymore. So what if she does care about flowers and feeling circle and hippies.
1 like@Roblox Sunshine but you know what the hive maybe a safer friendlier place that doesn't mean they won't have to defend themselves. Clearly.
1 like@Unicorn Fairy just because it worked for pharynx doesn't mean we should take our chances with chrysalis.
1 like@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Yup
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy sadness
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy yes
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy alone
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Squidward- Alone
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy mlp not SpongeBob.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 I know, I was just making it funnier
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy it not funny.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy chrysalis is not thorax equal she's not even a real queen she's just a creche bad straight of a mediocre fantasy book.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy she is not a a list mlp character she's more like a d list mlp character.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy sawtooth is not an a list brony youtuber he's more like a d list brony youtuber.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 I see
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy exactly he clearly knows nothing about changeling culture.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy I haven't been totally honest with you so have to show something.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Show me what?
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy I actually support chrysalis.
1 likeAynen köylülerden olmasına rağmen
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Why would you support her
1 like@KARA PANTER what
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy because I like her more than thorax.
1 like@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Oh ok
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy but I think she deserves an apology from thorax.
1 like@Unicorn Fairy how can she apologize to thorax her son.
1 like@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 A long apology
1 like@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Maybe she should write I’m sorry 1 million times.
1 like@Unicorn Fairy 1 thousand he will write i forgive you.
1 like@Tora nikiforov thorax sure misses his mom chrysalis she just wants her to come home.
1 likeChrysalis She misses her son thorax she wishes her could have been a better mother for him.
0 likes@Yey now chrysalis us forever trapped in stone. She's frozen in one place forever.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy how dare sawtooth run away from his hive.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy how dare thorax replace her own mother chrysalis!?
1 like@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 But she’s evil
1 like@Unicorn Fairy I get you are going to say that they are not so different run along a bunch of traits that you think they share and try to convince thorax to join chrysalis's side. Well stop right there fairy! Let me tell you fairy they are nothing alike thorax earned his kingdom his subjects and his friends chrysalis took her throne by force and she inslaved the other changeling for her own selfish gain. In other thorax got to where he is thought love and friendship chrysalis try to get there though fear and violence and she was defeated for it twice. What I am saying is that chrysalis is not thorax equal she's not even a real queen. She just a mean smuggler straight out of a nean smuggler's ally lounge.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy thorax was a ruthless savage and a nasty barbarian. Twilight love him because she loves crocodiles.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy rairty like him because when thorax eats he's like a bamboo or crocodile and she loves aligators.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy she was evil but she wasn't for the sake of it she was doing it because she was hurt. Spike knows chrysalis well enough to know that she just wanted the best for her son and baby boy thorax.
0 likesThe mean 6 are on the a list and so is spike. They have things named after them but the villains don't have anything named after them because they are on the d list.
0 likesI think she could be reformed by her own people cuz she clearly does care
0 likes@King Neptune that kind of a long shot.
0 likes@King Neptune she's cool but there's always someone better than her.
0 likesshe juste wanted her kids back
0 likes@moni tsumi probably
0 likes@moni tsumi but she left anyway.
0 likes@moni tsumi she does not like ponies.
0 likestrue
2 likes@Wolf Girl so moonfang
0 likesWell that's true
0 likes@LeeAnna Fallon too bad sorry thorax.
0 likes@LeeAnna Fallon why are the ponies naked and hairless and have no tails or a mane and no pupils.
0 likesYeah I feel like she was good in a way it’s just she didn’t understand that being “good” won’t replace her identity
2 likes@0-•Aurxella•-0 🍃 yeah or take her roots away.
0 likes@0-•Aurxella•-0 🍃 like larva and grub.
0 likes𝕋𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕚𝕤 𝕥𝕣𝕦𝕖.
0 likesYeah I totally agree
0 likesYes exactly she just didn’t want to lose their traditions and culture
0 likesWait…the changlings are Chrysalises kids…?
0 likesI always knew she did
0 likesBee pony
1 likeAnd through the walls of ash, we’ll revive, the Mothohive!
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy not so 🐝 🍯 but 🐞
0 likes@☆TaylxhDre4ms☆ What do you mean by that?
0 likesYeah but maybe something happened and that why she can’t show her love for her kids and everything else?
1 like@Sophia the wolf AKA Bellla Ya think?
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy yeah?
0 likesBog Standard Borg Queen
0 likesthats a good band name
True
0 likesI mean true
0 likesGuys please embrace the fact that chrysalis is a kind of mom to the original changeling hive in from where and back again. She always understood friendships and love she just didn’t want to lose her leadership. And she cared for her kind of kids as the royal wedding shows that she only came to canterlot to feed her subjects and herself.
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I also think that's the reason why she's mad at starlight not thorax, thorax is her kid, she isn't mad at him, she just thinks he's misguided, l mean why would she be mad at starlight? Thorax was the one who took over the hive, so lm guessing she's like a over protective mother who thinks starlight is a bad influence on her kids
540 likes@Lil' J I think she doesn’t like starlight because she was one of the people who reformed the whole hive and leaded alway the hive from her. Also I’m pretty sure she is mad at Thorax too because in one of the episodes she said something like “Don’t mention that traitors name in my hive!” and something like “ you will see what happens to the ones who leave the hive and come back.”
271 likesYou’re a wizard
20 likesAll so hoi4 mod
7 likesBro she literally was going to murder Thorax in cold blood.
36 likesI would see this... if she didn't act the way she did in To Where And Back Again. To change was best for all her people; it would ensure they never starved again. But she didn't. And from the subtext I can gather, it seems like the reason she didn't was that it's easy to control the desperate and hungry.
31 likesDamn, didn’t know that the boy who lived was a brony.
4 likesthe second sentence made me confused because there wasn’t any commas, I eventually got it
2 likes@Lil' J She said she was gonna make an example of Thorax and was about to kill him.
8 likes@so you what , but her anger after the betrayal was mostly directed at starlight, after the hive was taken, all she talked about was starlight, she barely even mentions thorax
8 likesWait- chrysalis is the entire hives motherr.. dose that mean WhAaAt I thought-
6 likesthis is bs
0 likes@Xx Måłwãrë Gāčhâ xX Harry Potter vibes.
0 likes@Idk Really_what to_put_here I would be very mad too when someone betrays me
4 likes@Quacker she wasn't,she was just taking his love away from him
3 likes@Bombardier_the hivewing did you see Thorax's flashback?
0 likes@UnknownError what flashback
0 likes@Bombardier_the hivewing when he was our of the shell thinf
0 likesOkay pOtTaH
0 likes@Quacker What would you do if yourchild betrayed you? duh its obvi kill the child
0 likesi think it's she's worried that her son thorax will never forgive her.
0 likesYes thats a very good way of putting it 👏 👍
0 likes@Willa Francis really
0 likesPoor chrysalis
0 likesthis makes it even worse that they just turned to stone and that's where it ended..
0 likes@DontTouchMyTea but it was thorax idea
0 likes@DontTouchMyTea and pharynx and ocellus agreed.
0 likes@Quacker she wasn’t. taking the love out of him was going to revert him back to a love-hungry changeling who is always aggressive
0 likes@wxnderer He was never like that????? Did you not pay attention to his backstory? And that's still a horrible thing to do.
0 likes@Quacker ik he was never like that. what I meant is that it'll constantly make him hiss and growl just like when spike found him and he constantly hissed bc of the lack of love. and I think if chrysalis did remove the love inside of him she'd either lock him up somewhere or keep a close eye on him.
0 likes@wxnderer Yeah, and that's a fucking horrible thing to do to what is basically your child
2 likes@Quacker ik. I was just explaining what would've happened. but since chrysalis was betrayed I understand why she would do it.
0 likesWhat those were similar thoughts that I had and that's a good way of summing it up
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 it was discord's idea actually
0 likes@Àíďàñ but thorax never cared about her.
0 likes@Àíďàñ so discord liked it
0 likesI don't think they where her children at all. I know they are based off of bugs but I don't think their whole hive works like that. But yeah she did care for them, I think she was just too stubborn.
0 likes@UmbreonTwinkle interesting
0 likes@wxnderer dude for real!?
0 likes@Bombardier_the hivewing she's a mother of thousands?...
0 likes@sweetsuniaLMAO
0 likesI didn’t know she knew Friendship
0 likesI think they didn't have to put them to the stone. I think they should do the same thing as they did to reform Discord.
0 likesIf true they would probably not be hungry but otherwise awwwww
0 likesWhen Chrysalis threatened to tear off Spike's wings, she didn't really mean to do it, I think. She even gave him back to his friends. So there is yet hope to reform her.
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When was this? I haven’t watched MLP in sooooo long
10 likes@Unidentified The 2nd to last episode
17 likes@UmbreonTwinkle Cut her wings off and see how she likes it.
1 like@UmbreonTwinkle oh ok,thx!
4 likes0:00 idk looks kinda suspect. Could be an imposter you know um.
5 likes@Trent Penner1261 Changelings are just filthy bugs anyway. They're better off dead. Bug bomb those vermin. Oh, Glob! I'm becoming my dad.😿👻
1 likeUm, I'm pretty sure she would have done it, and gladly, had the Mane Six not submitted to her. And she "gave him back" pretty much just so she could kill him along with them.
0 likesAlso Thorax is a really bad king in how weak he is. Celestia might be peaceful but she has shown on multiple occasions that she can stand her ground and can assert her authority if needed. She has a sense of self-confidence and charisma to her that Thorax just lacks.
566 likesThe episode with Larynx didn't do anything but confirm to me how weak Thorax is.
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I see your point but to be fair he didn't exactly ask to be the leader, it was kinda thrust upon him like twilight, he's doing his best and we can clearly see he's just doing what he thinks is right, sure he's kinda a wimp, but we see throughout multiple episodes like "triple threat" and "uprooted" that he can be assertive and wise when he needs to be
96 likesThe show did also acknowledge this witht he episode triple threat, though i would have to say DWK's Totally Legit Recap episode did it much better.
8 likes@{Well Hello} Yeah, it did make me warm up to him slightly more. Though with the episode of Phalynx I do kinda think he should have banished him. The episode kind of chickened out by not having Thorax make the hard decision to choose the needs of the many over the few.
7 likes@marinus18 Well, I think that's not very true. We just haven't seen it.
0 likes“Pharynx” actually,but yeah I agree,there was en episode where Ember tries to help him be more assertive and he helps her be more gentle which kinda helped
12 likesAs much as I love my boy thorax. I agree. I think he'd be better off as the one who makes allies between other creatures and changelings while his brother or reformed chrysalis (or both) where the rulers that did most of the hard stuff.
5 likes@UmbreonTwinkle I agree
3 likesChrysalis seems to be the most susceptible to reformation. Shes not world ending evil just conquering evil. She wants the best for her people and she thinks her way is the best. It's not hard to appeal to someone like her. Tirek has betrayal issues from his brother he would need some form of support to get him to accept that no one is going to betray him and that he doesn't need to be all powerful. Cozy Glow is just crazy keep her in stone.
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Actually I believe it could be possible to reform Cozy Glow. If she believes that friendship is power and control, which kinda is, why not show her a way to control people but in a healthy way? Teachers control their students for example, they teach them things and make sure they are not bothering anyone from learning. The really difficult part I believe is "How to satisfy her?" because she seems like someone who always want more, more control, more power over people and I am not too sure how they would use that as an advantage to reform her.
83 likes@Amos_ FR I can agree on the friendship being power thing. But the term control gives off a "negative" connotation. I think that if she were to be reformed it would have to be shown that friendship is beneficial to ones mental health as well as social support. I do think that a bit of Chrysalis rubbed off on her with the virus thing but I do see her finding actual supportive friends who could help her kick her conniving side.
50 likesDoctor Wolf therapy sessions-
13 likesAmos_ FR she is power hungry
8 likesstevenstrumpf7 her parents probably abused her
12 likesBut Cozy Glow is my baby :(
2 likesGive cozy glow therapy, THEN we think about what to do with here
10 likesWhy is everybody saying cozy glow will be soooooooo hard
3 likesMy theory is also like that.
2 likesCozy glow needs to be in child therapy, she is a child being treated like a world ending threat
12 likes@Space bunny THANK YOU, SOMEONE SAID IT
4 likes"She wants the best for her people and she thinks her way is the best."
8 likesIf she really thought that deliberately starving her people of love for control and dependence in the Season 6 finale was a good thing, she pretty much crossed the line with that notion.
she is a CHILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 likesGIVE KRISSY MORE LIKES
0 likespigifi Except Chrysalis didn’t show any indication she even knew about it. She regards it as a “corruption”. The idea that she was deliberately starving them is, like Cozy Glow secretly being an adult, a fan theory regarded as fact despite a lack of evidence for it.
10 likes@magicaltour1 wait that's a theory?
2 likesMarek1shtar Cozy being an adult? Yeah, it’s how some fans rationalize both her imprisonment in Tartarus as well as her petrification. But no evidence for this is given in the show.
7 likes@magicaltour1 I could see it work if there was evidence for it but yeah I agree it just sounds like a very loose theory.
2 likes@pigifi She mentioned her changelings would have love for generations if her plan works though.
5 likesAnd she literally said she wants to feed her subjects and have them obtain power in the wedding, she said it even if none of her buggos are around.
Besides, pretty sure it works with how the queen of a hive gets the most honey or it goes to her first and then distributed among the hive in question and such.
@Bottlenose Cactus a child that planned to destroy magic, sent the mane six to Tartarus to get them out of the way, took over a school, and took two ponies hostage with one actually being nice to her only to be repaid with a knife in the back.
3 likesWhen all else fails, Telltale Head.
1 likeIsn't she an orphan she has to have Pict it up from somewhere so maybe shining armour and his family for cozy glow to look up to or to teach them
0 likesGotta repeat what I said in a different comment thread: I don’t think Cozy Glow is irredeemably evil, I definitely don’t think she’s more evil than Queen Chrysalis and Tirek, and leaving her in stone would be completely irresponsible IMO. If she ever gets out, she’ll just be angrier and worse than before.
0 likesAs for what to do with her: high-security mental hospital. She’ll probably need years of therapy to become a functioning member of pony society, and wherever she’s put would need to be actually capable of holding her. (Incidentally, I’ve heard of cases that are at least somewhat similar to Cozy Glow: kids who needed to be put in long-term psychiatric care because they were a danger to their families, and after years of therapy were able to become functional members of society, even starting families of their own. So Cozy Glow’s case isn’t completely hopeless, or at least I don’t think so.)
@Violet AB Or she belongs locked away from anything with a pulse in a steel vault. Still, she's a child. Children are innocent, right? Cozy Glow might not be completely hopeless.😿👻
1 like@Sour Rodent she's not a child she's a grown pony that looks like a child and she literally almost ended the world twice but sure just ignore those two huge factors.
0 likes@magicaltour1 Cozy being an adult was confirmed by one of the writers though. This was probably to get the "but she's a child stone is too harsh a punishment" people off their backs. But even if she was a child, she nearly ended the world twice.
0 likes@Tananda Lynch If it isn’t on screen, it doesn’t exist. Every indication in the show is that she is a child. One writer claiming otherwise doesn’t mean that it’s so. If they wanted us to believe she was an adult who looked like a child, they should have said so to begin with. But even Cozy says she is “just a kid,” and no-pony every contradicts about it. Further, did this writer have anything to do with her creation? One writer making a claim does not mean any of the other writers agreed with it.
0 likesWhile Chrysalis was overly militant, you're right that Thorax was having the Changelings go too far the other way and forsaking their entire history and culture in favour of acting like ponies.
2059 likesIf Chrysalis could be shown that friendship and pacifism aren't the same thing by Pharynx who like you said, would fight tooth and nail to try and stop her from retaking the Hive and to protect his brother Thorax, it could help her opt to embrace friendship and reform.
She'd of course still be angry at Starlight for causing her people to turn into pacifists but that's something else she can work on moving past once she's embraced friendship.
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I feel like Chrysalis needs to know that its Spike befriending Thorax is what ultimately caused her hive to reform.
42 likesIt would also be cool to see her reaction when she goes to take back the hive and gets fought off by pharanx.
22 likesMy Oc Emma could provide some good therapy with the starlight issue chraysils will have,but that's judt a concpet
5 likes😐👍👍🏻👍🏼👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿
3 likesI kind of want to see a follow-up on Phrynanx. Maybe now that he's become a little more moderate he sets up a new changeling guard and military. I don't think he's truly the only changeling who feels some nostalgia for the old ways and misses being able to express themselves through force.
24 likesIt could make for a good IDW issue. Phrynax finding others like him and realizing he's not as unusual as he thought he was. Maybe making a new changeling guard to not only protect the hive but also project changeling power. Thorax is peaceful by nature but having 2 impressive looking guards at his side will certainly make dignitaries think twice about trying to take advantage of him. It could also be a small lesson for Thorax as well. After all Celestia is peaceful yet she still has guards posted when on official duty.
@marinus18 Yeah, I don't believe for a minute that Pharnyx was the only Changeling who feels nostalgia for the old ways. There had to have been others in the Hive who weren't happy with their people turning into total pacifists. Why they weren't there in Pharnyx's episode can be explained in that they were in other parts of the Hive not shown in the episode or on guard duty.
16 likesStill, I think that the Hive is finding that balance plus when Chancellor Neighsay called Changelings "unpredictable creatures", Thorax was as angry as the other heads of the allied races were and looked ready to beat down Neighsay. This shows that Thorax still has some Classic Changeling instinct left in him as he won't let outsiders slander his people.
@ryan macdonald I do think though they did integrate in changeling society much better. They were not as extreme as Pharynx.
4 likes@ryan macdonald Thorax though is somewhat impulsive. He can be aggressive on impulse but he struggles to be aggressive in a controlled way which is something a ruler needs to have. That could be a good way that it opens. That Thorax lets himself be manipulated by some bandit ponies who promise to stop their raiding and Phyranx scolds him for that. He then sets up the changeling guard and when Thorax protests Phyranx says the changelings should still be a strong race and that they should let others know not to mess with them.
7 likesHe would then bow down to Thorax and ask him to be their king which would make Thorax uncomfortable. He would argue but Phyranx would bring up how many see him as a pushover and how a king needs to make it clear to dignitaries that the changelings are still to be feared. Then a group of bandits attack and the guard shows off what they can do. Intimidating them and making it clear that from now on attacking changelings or raiding on hive territory will have consequences. They already used up their second chance so he locks them up.
Maybe the end could be Thorax meeting with an ambassador who tries to be pushy but then Phyranx steps forward menacingly and tells the king will not be spoken to like that which makes the pony back down.
Am I the only one who thinks that thorax isn't "changing their culture in favor of ponies" I kinda see it as him setting up a sort of "therapy camp" for the changelings, after all, activities like dancing, craft making, and talking about your feelings are activities that therapists or psychologists use to encourage patients to express themselves so they have a better way to Cope with their trauma, after all, living almost all your life constantly starving under the rule of an "evil" Queen seems very stress inducing
9 likes@Lil' J The Changelings literally changed overnight from "I must consume love to life" to "Love of people sustain me", they no longer were "forced" to be evil and with changing morality most probably felt weird and scares of what they did.
2 likesHe had a bad hand but by mending and strengthing the bonds of family, putting aside out traditions that no longer make sense for how they act and embracing who they are and not be literally drones. Changelings could move forward as Changelings started to learn how to be nice and being nice with friends eho care for you is alot more kinder then ripping out love like a sewer Rat.
She is just sad that thorax kicked her out.
0 likesPoor her.
0 likesDidn't Thorax say : "because all the changeling did was hunt and patrol" They're peaceful now so they don't need to hunt and patrol so thorax added new activities.
0 likes@Shu xin yes but he just run away because he was too cowardly to fight chrysalis.
0 likes@Shu xin yes but it doesn't make sense
0 likes@Shu xin thorax knows nothing about changelings.
0 likesChangelings really need crysalis, she’s their mother after all
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I agree
10 likesWait.. Doesn’t that mean they could go extinct?
32 likes@I like pie well, I suppose they could reproduce other ways. With eachother, I don’t think Chrysalis is the only female changeling capable of laying eggs.
21 likes@Athena Good point, I guess we just have to wait and see.
1 like@Athena
17 likesi dont think so, it's known that changelings are like bugs, their system is very similar to an ant's and a bee's
yea i mean like she took care of them and cared for them
4 likes@Athena Unfortunately, yes, there is such a method of reproduction in nature - but it is "wrong". If the queen disappears from the hive, then one of the worker bees can become a "laying worker bee" - and randomly lays eggs. But these eggs give only drones, that is, male bees. The laying workers thus accelerate the degradation of the hive, and in this case, the beekeepers urgently destroy the laying workers and look for the queen to move in - otherwise the hive will go crazy and die without the control of the queen.
3 likes@SunFlowerif you are right with bees, than the future of the hive is not bright... Some of worker bees can transform into laying worker bees and start to make eggs, but these eggs are drone eggs. And such a laying worker bee is a big danger for a hive as it makes other bees crazy without queen
3 likesRidiculous. She's only care for herself and ignore everthing even her childs. And the worst part she never let them call her 'mother'.
0 likesThey really don't though. They're clearly doing just fine with Thorax at the helm
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270 likesI would think Chrysalis would know Phalanx. He is fiercely loyal to the hive and as head of patrol was of a very high rank. Seeing one of her most loyal subjects fight just as hard and fiercely as before would impact her.
I don't think Phalanx will ever fit in with the new mainstream changeling culture. But his loyalty to the hive likely will cause him to make a small group of like minded changelings. Now that he's dropped some of his most toxic tendencies I do think he's not as alone as he thought.
That could be a good season 10 issue. Phalanx still feeling out of place but now with a more moderate attitude he meets and befriends others who also feel some level of nostalgia for the old days. Those who also rather not express themselves through emotions but through strength.
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Pretty sure his name's "Pharynx", not "Phalanx". But yeah.
9 likes@Executor Akamia it is
0 likesFtr
0 likesYou know technically speaking if the Changelings function like most hive insects, wouldn't they need a queen to actually, you know, stay alive as a species? It would offer a motivation to reform Chrysalis rather than keep her in stone forever.
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Boom! Changelings are extinct.
4 likesThis is what should've happened in the show, I finally feel some sort of closure at imagining Chrysalis and the villains being reformed through your well-thought out theories!
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I'm torn. On one hand, I like the idea, as reformation is a major theme in the show. On the other hand, not everyone who is a jerk in real life will just become better people. Some people are just bad and irredeemable. It's harsh, but an important lesson.
8 likeswhy do you people want EVERY VILLIAN to be reformed? it's a bad lesson
0 likes@Evil Paradigm Exactly. That's why I don't agree with the idea of reforming EVERYONE
2 likes@Gracekim24 Some people save others, Some need saving, Some save Accidently and others will literally defy odds to have a Yak Party.
0 likesIf you attempt to dominate, destory or otherwise ruin people AND THEN reject what they are trying to do, you are beyond saving.
@Gracekim24
0 likes..
Chrysalis reform
Oh no bad writing!
@Aesthetic Tale 🎵I have a dream. I'm here to tell about a wonderful fantastic new hotel. Yes, it's one of a kind right here in Hell made to cater to specific clientele. Inside of every demon is a rainbow. Inside every sinner is a shiny smile. Inside of every creepy hatchet-wielding maniac is a jolly happy cupcake-loving child. We can turn them `round. They'll be heaven-bound with just a little time here at the Happy Hotel.🎵
2 likes@zimmygirl777 SING FOR ME
0 likes@Aesthetic Tale You're right. Evil can't be redeemed. Queen Crysalys should die and let the changelings go extinct. It's not like they need her to save the species. Changelings are filthy parasites like how breezies are no different from cockroaches. (Totally not reverse psychology.)😼👻
1 like"They decided to not accept friendship, for one reason or another"
564 likesyeah the writers for S9 were awful. it felt like they just rushed it so it could be over with, which is sad.
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You are very very right ✅ lilblueOnk. They didn't wanted to accept friendship. This video is a fake.
8 likes@Mrirani's Life the video is a theory of what if's and would be's, not sure how that makes it fake.
62 likes@Mrirani's Life how can a theory, which is by definition an analysis of a hypothetical circumstance, possibly be considered fake?
52 likesI honestly think they just wanted it to be over. Also what's the message here "accept friendship or burn in hell" has some major Christianity overtones in it don you think?
11 likes@Kane Hodder I had to reread that because I kept seeing "except friendship can burn in hell", because you the right word, which was "accept"
14 likesalso no??? this isnt Veggie Tales dude
@LilBlueOnk oh yeah sorry about the word usage but my point was this could have S9 was poorly written
8 likesIt didn't feel like that to me. I do like dumb stuff, though.
4 likes@LilBlueOnk yea
2 likes@Mrirani's Life -_- this sounds mean
2 likes@Noah Maldonado yea
3 likesBut atleast we can create theories of what happens next and the mane sixes kids
I wish I could see s9
2 likes@monie_29 you don't want that, be happy you missed it.
2 likesIt wasn’t awful, some people don’t change and not like taht and this VII or just addressed why Chrysalis has issues, they are real. Also people were upset for years that all villains are being reformed and when they don’t reform some people are upset?
4 likes@Kane Hodder I think if you lay down what each of the bad guys did, feeling sorry for what they did and embracing Friendship is Way Nicer.
5 likesTirek alone literally sucked the magical essence of ponies leaving most barely able to run, attempted to dominate the world under his Iron Hoof and absorb the Alicorns magic so no one could appose him.
That went from "Abit of a Jerk" to full on "I will burn everything if I cant have it" which goes above morality and is just flat out "Literally just No". I think he getting it off lightly imo.
@Kane Hodder nah
0 likesSawtooth:I KNOW HOW TO REFORM THEM ALL
220 likesThe rest of equestria: s t o n e.
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Lol druun
13 likesthey still deserved their fate.
2 likesAfter breaking out and finding Dischord tricked them, they really went off the deep end and Storm King is evnious of their treatment lol
4 likesIt's a trick. Ge an ax.
1 likeThe more I think about it, the more I realize, Chrysalis didn’t even really start out as a villain. She was just trying to feed the other changelings. She just went about things the wrong way and later, let vengeance cloud her judgement.
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she started off as a villain
0 likesI’ve always wondered what Chrysalis would look like reformed!
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Cool idea
26 likesNo offence lady ceag840 but I think he just showed you
24 likesMaybe someday......
8 likes@Dr Anjali Shetty Not officially
56 likesAlthough Discord didn’t change
6 likesYeah
4 likes@Dr Anjali Shetty she meant that she was wondering what she would look like reformed before he showed her
21 likesAgreed
4 likesShe’d be beautiful!
7 likes@teletubby queen She already is
10 likesMe too :D
3 likesHoly. A regal looking version of a reformed changeling, almost angelic.
8 likesChrysalis needs a long calm hypnosis and then she can be reformed.
2 likesHer fav color is green so we can add it to the reformed changeling picture
2 likesMe to
0 likes@Dr Anjali Shetty He or she said I’ve always wondered so he got the answer here
0 likesYeah
0 likes@Violet Fantasy I don’t know but I love his rainbow colors and he was already really cute anyway
1 likeSame
2 likesI kinda like the way she looks now
3 likes@Noah yes! BUT EVEN BEATUFULER! Sorry rarity but chrysalis is taking ur place as the most buetofulest creature in equestria!
2 likes@Eliza Villena no it isn't she never said or showed that
0 likesFinally... I found somebody coment about queen chrysalis reformed... Cause... Hell!! She is so beautiful!!! And the only one with the most brighter color too
2 likesMe too
0 likesI was 🤔 she could be more pink and beautiful!!!
0 likesI for one think crysalis is perfect the way she is and reforming her would be a disservice to her unique character :) and devalue her past efforts. Yeah i really like her :3.
3 likes😺🎩-Homina-homina-homina-homina! Who is this? Ohh!
0 likesConrad-That's 👑 Chrysalis who is now reformed.
😺🎩- Awkward, yeah.
@Matt Mercurio I think Queen Chrysalis would look more beautiful with 🌈 colors!
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy if she wasn’t black!
0 likesCool idea
0 likes@Matt Mercurio CALM DOWN
0 likes@Abrar don’t tell me to calm down, I was just saying what I was thinking
0 likes@Abrar Thank you! 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
0 likesO' my
0 likes@Dr Anjali Shetty lol true I was thinking the same thing
0 likesshe's worried that her son thorax will never want her back. she is worried that she was not a good mother to thorax.
2 likesShe looks beautiful
0 likes@TMNT FanGirl true
2 likesI think she did not reform because she knew that even if she did her son thorax would never forgive or welcome her back because because she was not a good mother to thorax. So every changeling likes him and every changeling hates her.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy she is not queen anymore thorax replaced her and kick her out.
0 likes@MoDX she has no place in their hive anymore.
0 likesAnd she blamed starlight for taking her everything away from her. And she blamed thorax for kicking her out. As well as replacing her.
0 likesShe said this it's bad enough that you betrayed me now you are replacing me.
0 likesshe said How could you do this to Me?
0 likesShe was banished from there changeling kingdom.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Technically she decide to leave
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy yeah
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy what
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy why
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Well she refused starlight glimmer’s friendship
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy why
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy yes
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy she probably was too angry to forgive her.
0 likesSo she said you are just going to make me weak like him. So then she said I am out of here.
0 likesShe then said I am leaving. Any that's not here. I am not staying here.
0 likesOceluss and her family tryed to reason with her. But she was not convinced and she didn't think so.
0 likesThorax said to her you have no place in this hive anymore you must leave.
0 likesThen he said go away and do not Come near.
0 likesShe was so hurt by his words that she ran out crying.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 That might be it
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy shame on you thorax.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 But at least he’s the 👑 of Changeling Kingdom.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy but it was hers first.
0 likesI guess she rule along side him.
0 likesI guess she had to leave.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 royalty can be pretty strange
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy she was his mother
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 How come her children never called her “mom”?
1 likethey sure like thorax the king.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy idk
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy maybe they did not notice it.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 That sounds logical
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy they never gave her a chance.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy unlike thorax who could do no wrong.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy it was then one thing she was truly good at.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy or pharynx who could do not better.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy or ocelluess and her mom and dad and brother and sister.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 Yep been evil is her specialty
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy but I think they real reason she didn't reform is because she is afraid that her son thorax will never forgive her.
0 likesStealing a person life force that's so weird.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 I know right?!?!
0 likesSo thorax wings changed when he became satisfied.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy she is probably worried that thorax will never forgive her.
0 likesHer son thorax.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy because she actually keeps them love for herself and share it. Very selfish and greedy.
0 likesBut thorax us just her good for nothing son.
0 likesBut I think differently than that. I think he is worried that her son thorax will never forgive her and never want her back.
0 likesShe is just worried that she let her son thorax down.
0 likesAnd know he will never forgive her.
0 likesSo even if she did reform thorax still wouldn't forgive her.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 😺🎩- Uh yup.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy she just want her son thorax to be happy.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy so thorax is just a changeling who refuses his culture.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy chrysalis is more cultured.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy those changelings are acting like ponies.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy they think they are ponies.
0 likesKing thorax you will pay for that.
0 likesI will never forgive you for that king thorax.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy what about king sombra he worse than chrysalis.
0 likes@Ananika Bhaskaran even if she chrysalis did reform her son thorax will never forgive her or welcome her back.
0 likes@Princess Starlaixy Arixes poor chrysalis.
0 likes@BeccAurora poor chrissy
0 likes@Violet Fantasy shame on you king thorax.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 But at least he’s being a good king
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy but he cant reporduce on his own because he's male. But yes thorax is a good king.
0 likes@ponyhorse & muledonkey.🐎🐴 😺🎩- Uh yup
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy he throw the baby out with the bath water instead of reforming changeling culture he pretty finished it in favor of coping pony culture.
0 likes@Unicorn Fairy queen chrysalis she cared for thorax as he is her son.
0 likesChrysalis helped pharynx give thorax a bath.
0 likesUnfortunately the show is over, so we'll never get to see it :(
2 likes@Ashley Hawk true.
0 likesSame
0 likes@Sparkle XD I feel sorry for chrysalis. She never got to see her hive again.
0 likes@Sparkle XD I feel bad for chrysalis. She just wanted the best for her son thorax.
0 likes@Ashley Hawk I feel bad for her. She just wanted the best for her children. But now she can see that she has no place in the hive anymore or with her kids.
0 likes@Ashley Hawk but now it's over she is all done and that is it. In other she has no place in the hive any longer.
0 likesshe looks sooo pretty in this video
0 likesSame but sadly MLP didn’t ongoing that series …
0 likesI think it would be the same as the thumbnail but black.
0 likesYeah but I'm a little disappointed in the popular version sawtooth used. It feels a little lacking
2 likesI love that reformed Chrysalis design.
59 likesWow! That's a very astute observation about Chrysalis and her hive: even though it was changed for the better (most would agree), this resulted in mass genocide of the Changeling culture 😨
14 likesAcutally if you think about it Thorax wasn't trying to turn the hive into ponies by celebrating hearths warming eve. If you watch "The Hearth's warming club" Ocellus says "It's out favorite Holiday! Well ever since heamare Twilight shared it with us last year." Thorax wasn't celebrating it to become ponies they celebrated it cause theh wanted to! But let me know what you guys think!
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Considering the only form of celebration they had was "a gorde fest", I honestly don't blame thorax for wanting his subjects to celebrate a new holiday
11 likes@Lil' J Although, they could’ve done a holiday that celebrated their liberation from starvation, maybe even the Crystal Ponies would do that. It would’ve been cool to see the Hive have some sort of Hanukkah type of celebration.
15 likesI think thorax does "pony stuff" because that's the only positive influence he's ever had, he associates changeling stuff with hunger and suffering, but since the poinies welcomed him and showed him love, he probably associates them with "being good" so to be "good" he does pony stuff
17 likes@The Lanktheist Yeah, sort of like how the hippogriffs have a celebration of being freed from the storm king.
10 likesCozy glow:
58 likesi've just realized that a filly won over a dark shadow prince, a giant red monster, a former queen of a civilization and discord
and I just wondered where is this filly's parents?
Cozy glows parents: We were never here you never saw us and we weren't in a episode
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haha but yeah I know right, best assume she was an orphan. At least the writers left that part out.
8 likesshe killed them
0 likesCozy Glow: wouldn’t you like to know,weather boy
0 likesLily.Hahjim Kim:
Lily.Hahjim Kim: where are your parents
Her parents were in her belly `cause she ate them.
1 likeI bet her parents sit around watching their version of FOX News.😾👻
1 likeIs anyone else concerned by the fact that they imprisoned then turned a child pony into stone without even considering reform or some other option of punishment or even consulting her parents. Like she appears to be the same age as the cutie mark crusaders or maybe a bit older. Like it’s the same as turning Diamond Tiara in stone because she was at time a conflict. Like Cozy Glow went far pretty fast. But there was hardly any interaction between her and the main characters and any discussion on trying to help her. She wasn’t even a full grown pony, like damn. Like maybe she need some kind of mental institute and a full time therapist and one on one friendship eduction and full time surveillance. But again. She a kid. Not even full grown. She has no impulse control, she has not reach maturity. I don’t really like her that much but it still insane that they just straight up impressions her like she has the same reputation as Tirek who has been causing terror for thousands of year or Chrysalis who was a queen with an entire army.
1065 likesAlso. We all know the answer to Chrysalis reform is Fluffle Puff.
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i fully agree with everything you said but mostly that last sentence
125 likesI definitely flinched when they changed her to stone. Like DUDE SHE'S A CHILD WAIT!!!?!? I know she probably always uses that to her advantage but... 😬 Yikes. Hey mlp there's an imprisoned child caught in your nicely tied bow!
123 likesChrysalis + Fluffle Puff = MLP OTP and Chrysalis reformed :3
50 likes🤦♀️she turned down Twilight’s offer. She can NOT be reformed.
35 likesIf she didn't get trapped in taurturaus I'd agree
8 likesI beg to differ. Child or no, Cozy Glow was a dangerous opponent who committed serious crimes, and she must atone for those crimes, as well as be rendered powerless. We often turn a blind eye to the antics of children, since we believe they don't know any better and they can't do any real harm. Cozy on the other hand demonstrated that she knew exactly what she was doing and sought power in a way not too dissimilar to other power hungry individuals. In doing so, Cozy Glow endangered nearly all of Equestria. If a dangerous person like that was to get off scott free, who knows what they may try next.
77 likesChildren deserve less is a common argument people like to make. I can see where they're coming from. Normally, a slap on the wrist and a stern 'NO!', or maybe a spanking would be enough to get a child to think twice before doing that again. Not so with Cozy. It was highly likely Cozy would be a repeat offender, and that is way more headache than what Equestria is willing to put up with. With that, I feel imprisonment was the best option, at least temporarily, until a time where reconditioning wouldn't be a problem.
Diamond Tiara and Cozy Glow are two different things for goodness sake... Diamond Tiara was just self absored and that was it... Cozy Glow is ponyfied psychosis... Cozy Glow planned each and every single detail for world domination... And another thing, Cozy Glow posed a huge threat, not once, TWICE... That alone is enough reason why she deserves to be imprisoned
50 likesThey have to male fluffle puff canon and make her reform crysalis
2 likesJust use actual #RehabilitativeJustice & depetrify them, put them in prison for life & have various counsellors talk to them daily; which is what should've been done with Tirek & Cozy Glow in the 1st place.
5 likesEven if they don't reform, whatever's learned from couselling them can be used in dealing with others initially displaying criminal behaviour.
Gracekim21 yes she can. FLUFFLE PUFF.
2 likesthese people are so annoying, who cares if she's a child, is a CARTOON, is a series finale villain! who cares, such a dumb take
5 likesAt the last bronycon, the show's creators said that Cozy Glow was actually grown pony that just looks like a child, almost like those possession movies where a demon takes over the body of a child.
18 likes@Serena Breeze that's so dumb, an evil child is a classic trope in entertaintment, but now they have to justify it, cause people can't stop crying about it
11 likesWe don't have any REAL confirmation that Cozy is indeed a Filly. She could be a fully grown but very short pony. She seems to have a more advanced mind than real Fillies like the CMC.
8 likesHonestly I know many people believe Cozy Glow to be a Psycopath but she reminds me so much of Baby Doll from Batman. Baby Doll struggled between reality and illusions because she was physically unable to age. She went off the deep end even worse than Cozy Glow did in that instead of just imprisoning people and wanting to rule she wanted to take the entire city of Gotham down in a nuclear Explosion and tried to kill off the entire cast of her show because of the conflict waging deep within her subconscious. Even after all that she still managed to finally give up evil for good and even attempted to live a normal life. What if Cozy Glow faced a similar issue? If not by actually being a adult in child form then maybe she was forced to grow up really fast because she was practically raising Herself?
16 likes@Gracekim24 bro that does not matter you don't run up to a psychopath and yell in there face be good and then shoot then if they day no. She needs to be in a hospital and what if she is completely sentient in the stone? Discord and tirec are ancient beings and would probably be fine but the queen was losing her marbles being alone for a couple months and you think giving a life sentence to a child is the with the inability to move or stretch or blink or sleep is the best thing the could do?
1 like@TimberJackEB a yes send a child with mental issues to be alone in her thoughts for who knows how many years? Is she going to be about the age of an adult before they let her out? If she was not ok before how is being turned to stone help her at all? When she does come out she will not have the mental capacity of here age with no one to talk to is completely fine and a just punishment. Even if anyone with eyes sees that she needs to be in a mental health institute.
3 likes@Daniel Rosales dude shes a psychopath and the best thing you could think of is trap her in her head for who knows how many years?
1 like@TinyKittenKisses why does anyone even watch this stupid shit? Who cares? Its obviously for children and you have no reason to have an opinion and should not even be here.
0 likesThis can also be considered a stupid take by people.
@Jovanni Lopez Equestria couldn't afford to release Cozy Glow due to the danger she posed to Equestria. When you give a psychopath room to stretch their legs, there needs to be someone significantly stronger than the psychopath in question to make sure they stay in line. It wouldn't take much for Cozy to use her cunning or small stature to escape whoever was assigned to her. If she goes missing, she can scheme about getting payback. Knowing her, she will stumble on a great source of power and once again be a serious threat.
8 likesEach of the three villains imprisoned in stone at one point threatened the fate of Equestria, twice (or more), and Cozy Glow is no exception. They need to be kept under, or they will threaten Equestria yet again. Besides, there needs to be repercussions for their actions.
@TimberJackEB you are not telling me that in all of equestrian there is not a single prison that does not involve some princes or discord to send them there. Are you really trying to say that no on ever anywhere had mental issues at all or have some people that need help. Like for instance manhatten im pretty sure would have an asylum or even a prison in a max security im pretty sure someone could teleport her there and if you cant trust the guards people code visit here like twilight and celestia. Putting a psychopath into a position were the only things they have left to do is talk to them selfs will not just "magically" fix the problem if you keep her there for 10 50 100 or how many years they decide this time. Even putting her back in tarterus is 1000 times better and gets the job done still.
3 likes@Jovanni Lopez You make a sound point. Thinking about it now, Tartarus was a good option, since the only reason Tirek and Cozy Glow managed to escape was because Discord released them. Other than that, I doubt there are many institutional correctional facilities or prisons in Equestria that could hold them.
3 likesI think ultimately, Discord had a big role in deciding their fate, and figured 'How about we petrify them, since they did much worse than me?'. This is pretty bad, but I think Discord takes losing his powers very personally, and was feeling spiteful. He isn't a saint, so I can see this being a possibility. Why no one in Equestria was concerned? Probably because the population suffers from extreme psychological and empathetic ignorance, as is demonstrated many times throughout the show. Why, Celestia and Luna thought it was a good idea to petrify Discord, so I'm sure they saw no problems with this.
Maybe ponies aren't as forgiving as we previously thought, to fire and forget on these villains. It's also something of note that Gorgons keep gardens of petrified creatures, and are seen as evil. Celestia does the same, keeping Discord as one of her lawn ornaments. Who is to say those other statues aren't actually sentient creatures? Is Celestia Secretly evil?
@TimberJackEB most likely not directly evil more like all opposition is stoned in her pursuit of HER version of equestrian. If anyone did anything ponys would consider a horrible act then no one would really care if they got stoned even if being traped in stone is literally the worst punishment i can think of other then death. Image you stuck in stone for hundreds of years never ageing or moving and all you have to do is think. These other creatures that have been alive for 1000 of years could handle it but having a normal life span of maybe 100 years stretched to infinity till someone thinks that your powers could be used for good?
2 likesThis is like the one of those punishment worse then death forever imprisoned in your own mind till some princess decide they want you out for a lesson for there student?
they did also reform someone who literally brainwashed an entire village
8 likesIt's really lame and kinda stupid how she was made a villain in the first place. For a teensy little pegasus who goes from 0-60 in what, like, 3.5 episodes, she's pretty single dimensional. Why wasn't there a Fiendship is Magic issue released about her?
5 likesMaybe Cozy Glow had a hard life growing up
2 likes@Jovanni Lopez if it's a show for kids then don't over think it and demand legal u.s.a. based human child rights to a cartoon horse, don't lose sleep over the rights of a cartoon, as soon as the show ended that was it, she's not gonna be alone with her thoughts for thousands of centuries cause she and the show stopped existing. Geez these people
1 like@TinyKittenKisses weak mind set
0 likes@Jovanni Lopez what is a strong midset?? To cry and cry and cry a search for justice because little cartoon horse got punished in tv show and is not fair :( :( yeah, you sure are the mature guy here
0 likes@TinyKittenKisses no its to think theoretically about these scenarios in there own world or concepts. The show might be over but the comic books are still going and the most i was implying is that i hope that eventually they will let them out. Then there are the thousand of fanfiction, mods(for games), and projects would have stop at "its just a kid show". One of the most silly yet best mod inspired by mlp is for Herat of iron 4 called eqwestria at war and is also one of the most well made mods. But obviously all there work and dedication to the project is pointless because its a kid show. Ok now lets move into the fanfiction side. Have you ever heard of bride of discord and daughter of discord? Well in my opinion these were done pretty well but obviously they should just throw it in a dumpster fire and burn because when the show ended fluttercord did not become canon.
3 likesThe way you say it makes it a wall of text that can invalidate any and everything in the community with just a "its a kid show, stop it". I dont know how you got this mindset when there were conventions with hundreds of people dressed up as ponys. That lined was crossed a LOOOOOONG time ago.
Also i just like theory crafting and thinking what if scenarios.
@Jovanni Lopez do you think i care about a fanfiction some loser in arkansas wrote in his basement??? Why is that even an argument?? I didn't even read half of that response. Why would i care about that???
0 likesAnd the comics well, nothing that happens there matters, chrysallis lives in an european castle in the comic, twilight"s mother wrote daring do, sombra died peacefully, the comics don't matter cause they're not canon. If the comics that are official material don't matter, then i couldn't care less about some random fanfiction. Plus the final episode was years into the future and cozy is still trapped, just make peace with it
@TinyKittenKisses dude its called a theory man you act like i just shot your dog and told you that your mother did it. Its a what if and perhaps situation that i thought up in my head. The reason i used the fanfic is that should that dude get rid of it all because its not "cannon". No one in this conversation was going to grab a pitch fork and go raid hasbro for warcrimes. Its a "what if the show keep going on and this happened or that.
1 likeEven slightly more disturbing is how Celestia sent her into Tartarus and that Tartarus even exists in the first place in this show.
0 likes@vikk biff well for one your forcing your definition of tartarus on there's wich could just be a maximum security prison.
0 likesI fully agree i was like cHiLd AbUsE
1 likeOliver The Oreo I wanna like but it’s 69 and I’m too immature for this Shit xD
0 likes@Serena Breeze Did they actually say that?
2 likesDid they say anything about Luna too? Like why is she retiring too?
@TimberJackEB I think the Royal Sisters were blinded with anger with how on their last days as rulers, they ended up looking like failures once again. And the fact they weren't included in the final rainbow laser, like it shows that despite they used the Elements before and their Cutie Marks were on the damn tree, losing their connection to the Elements apparently means Harmony has tossed Luna and Celestia aside.
0 likes@vikk biff Apparently Tartarus is ultimately just a edgy animal control/zoo rather than a place of damnation.
3 likesDue to the only "prisoners" in there aside from Tirek(and Cozy Glow) is just non-sapient monsters that just growls and stuff. Its surprising Tirek didn't lose his mind due to not having anyone that can actually talk back to him for a 1000 years.
I hate night mare moon 🌒
0 likes@TimberJackEB Yes, we can turn 'a blind eye'to the antics of children. They are not fully developed at all, and don't understand.
0 likes@Daniel Rosales Shw was a child
0 likes@King explosion murder fuck off Children understand their actions sooner than you might think. Discipline is key, especially in early childhood development. When you let a child get away with doing something bad because she's a kid, she's going to do it again, and you help to nurture the mentality of 'I'm going to do whatever I want at other people's expense, and no one will stop me, because I'm the most important being in the universe'.
0 likesEventually, a child could commit a criminally atrocious act, such as grand theft or even murder. At some point, the line has to be drawn. Better to draw it sooner than later.
Was the punishment for Cozy Glow harsh. Absolutely, but bear in mind she threatened the National Security of Equestria and the neighboring realms, and she escaped from what is effectively a maximum security prison. She's a repeat offender that has established herself as a danger to society, and for the safety of the public, she needs to be detained, child or not.
The same happened with Discord really, the mane 6 will probably give her another chance later on
0 likes@TimberJackEB i dont think you know how children work. shes like, ten at MOST. her brain is literally not fully developed. there is no possible way for her to ever understand the weight of what she did at such a young age, same goes for real children. they literally cannot comprehend it. children need to be disciplined, yes, but they dont deserve to be permanently imprisoned in fucking stone dude what
0 likes@TimberJackEB also, hitting a child is not discipline, its been proven that all it does is traumatize them. the fact that you think its okay to hit a child to “correct” them says enough about your stance
0 likes@columbidaze You're jumping the gun here. Not once did I mention 'hitting', that is unless you consider spankings as a form of abuse, nor do I advocate for people to beat their children senseless in the name of 'discipline'.
0 likesDiscipline can take on many different forms. Whatever the method used, as long as it is effective at deterring people from misbehaving, it's a viable form of discipline. Discipline can take the form of timeouts, extra chores, no desserts, groundings, device and toy confiscation, spankings, community service, fines, and jail time just to name a few.
There is no justification in beating a child senseless as if you're in a drunken frenzy. That said, when all else fails, I've found through personal experience that the mere threat of a spanking was enough to deter me from misbehaving, at least some of the time. Every so often, I had to be reminded of just how painful a spanking can be, not just in effect, but also in anticipation.
To tell you the truth, I was a horrible, rotten problem child, prone to anger, and prone to violence. Prospects of landing in prison at 18 were very high when I was younger, but thanks to the Lord and to my parent's tough love, I really turned my life around. You would never be able to tell I harbored such a dark past based on how I conduct myself to this day.
Discipline works. It has throughout history, and it's necessary in order to develop people of merit. Otherwise, the practice of discipline would have died out long ago. Another important note is not to just go around disciplining them willy-nilly without explaining why, but to let the child know what he or she did wrong; why the child is being disciplined. That is the single most important aspect of childhood discipline.
Yeah. I know it’s a kids’ show, one that won’t even say someone died before the events of the show, but from a Watsonian perspective what Cozy Glow really needed was probably a long stay in a mental hospital. Or maybe prison, but if you’re trying to reform her, definitely a mental hospital. It’s not even like cases somewhat similar to Cozy Glow don’t exist: I have heard of children who need to be placed in long-term psychiatric care because they were a danger to their families. (In the cases I’ve heard of, the kids did eventually get better and become functioning members of society, but it took years of therapy.) As Sawtooth’s pointed out, leaving Cozy Glow in stone for god knows how long is probably just going to make her eventual escape worse if and when it does happen.
3 likesI am
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0 likesThere's no redemption for anyone who allies themselves with Tyrek. The only reason discord got away with it is he was betrayed and had friendship in his heart long before that. Plus Tyrek did manipulate him. Cozy was allied with him of her own volition
0 likes@Jovanni Lopez if there was Tartarus/turned to stone/death wouldn't be the only options for the irredeemable.
0 likesI think diamond tiara might have been known to be in capable of empathy entirely. I don’t understand why they needed to imprison them in stone thought, they could have just revamped Tartarus
0 likesThat plan for Chrysalis is actually brilliant. It gets a thumbs up from me.
8 likesI would wish that the reformed changelings looked like reformed Chrysalis in this video, instead of the abominations that they do in the show.
5 likes"First of all, we've gotta keep them apart." *Co-dependance*
6 likesAlso, this video is SO good. Gotta admit, I didn't think you'd be able to convince me there was a way to reform Chrysalis, but this checks out. Can't wait to see the other two!
Neat theory and way to break down her motivations in the actual episode! My one issue is her “reformed version” in this video. It looks too much like a pony and not like the other reformed changelings (which would almost seem to reinforce the very thing Chrysalis is afraid of).
2 likesOnly reforming Discord took almost 3 seasons and he was willing to give friendship a try. Chrysalis doesn't even bother to give it a chance, completely reforming her would be a miracle.
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and just imagine how reforming cozy will turn out.
197 likesReforming Discord take zero seasons because he never was a villain. He actually has a point for most of the time and justifiably was convinced that Celestia is "power hungry pony witch" (cause she was in his timeline as granddaughter of the Sombra). When Twilight released him he still suspect trickery but acknowledged that current incarnation of Shadow Pony isn't evil anymore (PS: Midnight Sparkle as Sombra's doughtier, clearly should be final boss of whole series). Same Chrysalis (aka Ocellus) is not evil. But she did know truth about Shadow over the Equestria and didn't trust minions of Shadow even slightly. She actually deeply cared about own hive and was trying secure border by taking control over potentially hostile country. Her only problem was that she was jealous and in her bias failed to recognize change in current timeline. Her imprisonment in the end was bullshit! Though I love how young Celestia wrecked her in the combat. Probably only good part in show finale.
216 likes@TheRezro discord came from a different timeline?
41 likes@TheRezro What kind of fanfic is this?
152 likesDude....at some point even she must realize that her desire and her goal are lost causes.
25 likes@laszlo zsurka It is something called a theory. There are arguments to support most of those claims.
8 likesI thought it took one episode -_-
9 likeswhich is why all of this headcanon will only occur in your dreams
6 likesVegeta was eventually reformed
4 likesHa. Good luck trying to talk Tirek into reforming.
12 likes@Modern Queen Oop- your right-
2 likesI can see Cozy Glow and Chrysalis{possibly chrysalis} Reform
Thats why Chrysalis is my favorite antagonist
0 likesDiscord also doesn't really care about anything. He doesn't have some kind of code or morality that he works with unlike Chrysalis. Chrysalis does have a code of conduct; a warped code but a code nonetheless.
15 likes@marinus18 Why should Discord care? He's the most overpowered character in the show, he's basically a GOD. He can do anything he wants.
4 likes@laszlo zsurka and even as a God he CHOSE friendship
13 likesAlso if you look at the attack on Cantor lot from a changing perspective, they were literally just trying to survive, As you know, they eat emotions eze food and as such need other sentient beings to feed off of.
5 likesIt's like the terranids from warhammer 40K, yeah there big and scary but they're not "evil"
@marinus18 wat code does chrysalis have? She isnt really honorable
1 like@laszlo zsurka discord cares as hes capable of feeling remorse and he does want to be good, his fear thought process just isn't to care a lot of times
5 likes@TheRezro and what support do you have that Celestia is by any ways related to Sombra? she's weirdly benevolent for a power hungry pony witch. And that Discord come from another timeline? And Midnight Sparkle, daughter of Sombra? really? As far as i know, Chrysalis and Ocellus are two different peoples and chrysalis has proved through the whole serie that she is evil, i don't undestand what make you think she's not. Taking control of neiboring realms is not securing borders, it's invasion, you know? Young Celestia?
4 likes@Éfar Isti Sombra is king of the Equestria and peoples change. Chrysalis care about her hive and have legit reason to distrust ponies. Whole, she is evil because evil would undermine whole message of this franchise. Even Tirek who still is ass, at least do care about his shadowy brother.
1 like@Éfar Isti Also that:
0 likeshttps://youtu.be/yYvGN13vqHM?t=180
@TheRezro he was king of the crystal empire, not Equestria and Celestia and Luna ruled it before he came to the scene. That's true but they can also change from bad to worse.
5 likesYeah she care... in her own ways i guess. and her reasons to distrust ponies are lighttly questionnable since she's the one who attack them first.
Not after his betrayal, he didn't or have you forget what he said to Discord after taking his magic the first time?
@Éfar Isti Crystal Empire is Equestria, or at least its old capital. That part isn't even a theory. Plus city itself was ruled by Princes Amore in comic. We can safely assume that Celestia and Luna were her relatives ruling over vasal states after events of Hearts Warming Eve (they find crystal heart in mines, what impact Clover the Clever aka Sombra, as Wendigo are clearly the Sirens and he himself was Kirin).
0 likesThe reason Chrysalis don't trust the ponies is because she know who secretly control them and what is true nature of Spirit of the Harmony aka the Shadow. In Agents of SMILE comic, it is confirmed that Battle with Tirek was staged. Despite acting like ass, Tirek did hold tears when his niece visit him in the prison. He also ostentatiously ignore Spike, as he is still salty, afer Spike served under him during Midnight Empire as Scorpan adjutant.
@TheRezro And where are your evidence of that? If the empire was the capital of Equestria, why was inhabited only by cristal ponies and not by earth ponies, pegasus and unicorns? why Celestia and Luna were the ruler of Equestria when Amore was still in power? they rules over Equestria, and there is no indication that it was a "vassal state". Clover the Clever is Sombra? what are the evidences of that? and no the Wendigos are not the sirens, they look different, they don't sings and they still exists in Equestria unlike the Sirens.
1 likeThe tree was born from the magic planted by Starswill ans his companions, that is a canon fact, not the shadow ponie, i mean, we have seens his episodes, he clearly have nothing to do with it. You should be carefull with considering the comics canon, they don't always go in tune with the series.
@Éfar Isti Crystal ponies are result of crystal heart. It is why they not show up that commonly later. Canterlot also has unusual concentration of unicorns, same as Pegasopolis of Pegazi. They don't show up that commonly in other towns. Evidence for identity of Clover is how he react on spell and where he show up. I'm not talking about nature of tree but the spirit. If you pay attention discoloring of stones in documents aren't mistake. There is distinctive lack of one orb in planetarium, what later is revealed to be in possession of spike. It is green one and Rarity is actually one who own core element on diagram. Weird spiky element of Twilight is not present there.
1 likeTwilight, Celestia and Sombra are also only characters who can use Shadow magic, what in event with foresight potion is confirmed to be alicorn magic. Twilight also tend to turn a blaze when angry (so called Rapidash Twilight) and Minotaur said that she born under the tree, with her parents ignoring to address that entirely. There is also recurring joke about similarity of Twilight and Starlight, usually by foreign beings. Starlight and Trixie Lulamoon are also no one else then young Celestia and Luna. Also implied when Discord went super salty against Starlight, despite never talking to her beforehand. There is lot of evidence, though I admit that it is Dark Souls level of storytelling.
@TheRezro i really would like to know where you take your sources. Because most of what you said seems to be theories based on hasards and coincidences.
5 likesShadow magic is just(evil) magic, anyone could use it if he learned how to do it. I think the part where the shadow magic is showed as Alicorn magic is a weird mistake of the serie since it is not specified why Twilight use it instead of her usual magic and shadow magic would contradict the benevolent nature of the Alicorns. There was a video on it about how it didn't make much sense for Twilight to use this type of magic.
So she do magic when she is angry, how is that a proof or her lineage? what Minotaur?
Starlight and Trixie are Celestia and Luna now? you're being more and more confusing, you know?
Discord isn't particularly pleasant with anyone he doesn't know.
All of this seems overly complicated and dark, especially for a kid show.
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Chrysalis never reforming she is very bad but the video I see Tirek Cosy Glow Chrysalis together work thats look like friendship but I like this video so much.
1 likeNo gaps enough the friendship is magic is true really really true.
0 likes@TheRezro why didnt u answer
0 likes@ʍou ʇɥƃᴉɹ pᴉdnʇs ʞooʅ no⅄ Because YouTube love to not give notifications. Also there was no reason to do so anyway. He make obvious statement that those are theory (d'oh) and then obliviously bring own theories as facts. But if you interested then when Zecora ask Twilight to use unicorn magic on potion, she did use same magic what Sombra did. Also full name of Trixie is Lulamoon. Starlight and Flurry Heart look almost identical (and there is mentioned in the show several times that apparently Starlight and Twilight also, but they do have different colors, but that is not relevant here directly). Discord also make weird attack on Starlight, which he literally never meet her, accusing her of being "power hungry pony". People also miss that he was no villain, but only extremely suspicious regard Celestia. And there are implications that she was different in the past, what is something Sunset Shimmer did comment about when she meet her. There is lot of hints. Either more or less direct.
0 likes@Play and be creative🧁 She is not as bad as people think. She in fact love her hive, but doesn't know how to behave always being center of attention. Also she has good reasons to be suspicious regard ponies, knowing that they use Shadow magic. Plus people seams to forget that Ocellus old form, coincidently look exactly the same as Chrysalis. Sadly this fact was never explored. Turning Cozy into stone was also BS as she is still a kid and they straight forget that Tirek also did have some development (he was lonely with harsh father, what lead him to creating himself a brother, who then start walking with dragon and obsessing over ponies, what angered him). Sadly because Hasbro randomly moved production during finale, we can't know what was intended ending. Beside that everything implied for Midnight Sparkle to be final boss. As well, it is where friendship they did build through the show, would stop be fueled by weird magic what bounded them. And we would see them dealing with they bad sides, we only hear about until now. And finally become true friends. But nop!
1 likeNo, it would just be more of a fight then that!!!
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0 likes@p i n k b v n n y oof
0 likestry and give constructive criticism
0 likesyup
1 likeDiscord didn't want to give it a chance in the beginning, either.
1 like@laszlo zsurka I think it was comic related or something
0 likes@Celine Rosali This comment is like over a year old and it's still getting replies xD.
0 likes@Celine Rosali Adopted. Possibility yes. what is more important is that Twilight is his actual doughtier (which is why she end as a queen). The funny thing is that we do know that she has Nirik form, from first season. Just no one make connection. Lol.
0 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFQ6xZ6qTz8
@TheRezro Is the evidence for this theory based on the comics?
0 likes@TheRezro your acting like your ThEoRy is a fact
1 like@TheRezro everything your saying is pure BS 1 Celestia isn't Sombra's daughter or grand daughter 2 discord is THE SPIRIT OF CHAOS not some being from another timeline tf
2 likes@Mike Angelo吴耀辉 Are you serious? This is literally a theory site. I could say more detail, but you don't sound as someone who care to listen.
0 likes@TheRezro WHERE TF DO YOU GET THESE INFO TO MAKE IT AN THEORY?
1 like@Das Institut i agree... But it might take awhile, so unless someone snaps her into the reality of it, that won't happen anytime soon...
0 likesAs you did say it took almost 3 seasons, to fully reform. Each teacher has their own way of teaching, and so maybe they're could be someone close who could teach crystalist ways to become better. Not a complete change but a change to start to go down a calmer path
0 likesexactly
0 likesMaybe for cozy glow and tirek is too late to change. Because i saw that they are completely emotionless. But i dont think chrysalis deep down really hated mane six and starlight. I think chrysalis had a posibility of changing. Starlight could. And she did horrible things too but not than enslaving whole canterlot by pretending to be princess cadence. By using hive to help. Or replace the mane six and others. She created portals. And changed the future which is worse than what chrysalis did. She enslaved the whole city by taking their cutie marks away making them believe cutie marks are a distraction to their purpose. Starlight was far more dangerous. Than chrysalis and she could change. So i believe chyrsalis could too
1 likeIt did not take three seasons to reform discord
0 likeslets remember he still did...questionable things. he had ab ackdrop when tirek apperaed and...we do not mention him getting 4 villains like sombra back
0 likesShe might be worried that her son thorax will never forgive her.
0 likesBut there is one more who could help and that's larynx.
0 likesTrue, but you must admit sawtooths method is better than celestias
0 likesshe actually nearly did at the part she almost took Starlight's hoof
1 likeDiscord was easy because he's not really evil (compared to others) just a prankster
0 likesChrysalis has potential in her to be reformed so she shouldn't be too hard.
Cozy glows past isn't known much about so she might be hard to reform.
Teirk is impossible
King Sombra is also impossible because... Well... R.I.P 2x
@ADF That's why I think there's some potential
1 like@TheRezro Midnight Sparkle was never in the cards, the main series actively avoided trying to mention stuff from EG as if it never existed
0 likes@Mild Monster Because people from Hasbro are idiots, who were blocking creators from making series actually great. Cause it is for "little girls" BS. Gladly lot of that was delivered Dark Souls style, through indirect story telling and team has more free hands in the spoin off series. For reminder Hasbro actually move production to another studio during finale! It is quite obvious that plot collapse in the middle.
0 likes🎶 there still waiting on a miracle 🎶
0 likes@Fresh2000 ZCORD A code of conduct isn't always good. A code of conduct is a code of conduct. It can be good or bad. For Chrysalis, it's obviously bad.
0 likes@p i n k b v n n y Get her some loving parents
0 likesTttt
0 likesChrysalis is an epic Queen, she deserved a better end
11 likesWhen I first saw Pharynx, I thought he was just pretty cool at first. But now after watching this, he feels like the most underrated MLP character EVER created. I love him so much now, that I want to turn him into a leather jacket XD.
2 likesAlso, for the subject of Chrysalis's true nature, you should cut her some slack. I mean, she was physically manifested into existence almost the exact same way Gunmar was...
...by Star Munch the Beardo!
their language: reforming chrysalis
122 likesme, an intellectual: metamorphosis
dood i accidentally deleted this comment lmfao
I’d imagine cozy glow’s parents crying in front of the statue every once in a while and maybe even bring flowers, I was hoping that maybe cozy glow could be freed when Twilight sparkle meets cozy glow’s parents
5 likesCozy is VERY manipulative SERIOUSLY
928 likesHer "cuteness" is her only power
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no, her cuteness is but a weapon, her power is being able to chessmaster at such a young age. Cozy was able to play the long game building up to the events of School Raze, building a reputation, maneuvering her pieces, so much of Season 7 was devoted just to that little Filly and her prep work for a world takeover attempt that came damn close to succeeding. and think on this, she WAS just a filly, not a millennium old super power, but a filly of tender years.
116 likesI think that’s why she should be reformed last, if the 2 closest things to friends she has accept friendship that will make it much easier to reform her
41 likes@Brandon Hill I'm starting to think Cozy isn't actually a filly...
27 likes@Jennifer Smith yooo
8 likes@Jennifer Smith no, thats been confirmed that she IS just a Filly, a very misinformed and therefore dangerous Filly, but still just a Filly
19 likesBrandon Hill i think what she meant by that is that, her physical form is a filly, but her mind is something else more sinister and a lot smarter than most could have anticipated. Maybe the reincarnation of Grogar? jk
23 likes@DracoSerpentisCruor That's exactly what I meant.
11 likesI would not be surprised if her mother is Cosmos
6 likes@DracoSerpentisCruor or as I said maybe Cosmos' daughter, you can reform everyone but Cosmos
4 likesso make her ugly??
0 likesHer cutie mark says "check mate" so I think she's cunning
2 likesAnd I hate cute stuff. And I try to stay away from it.
0 likes@Brandon Hill
6 likesThe problem is children can be as violent and cruel as the adults...if not worse.
In war torn countries there are gangs of children who rob and pillage villages.
over you
0 likesCandy Peach
6 likesI’ll try to answer your questions, and help you with clearing things up! Mind that some of this might draw on comic details and past generations, as well as the Mlpfim cartoon.
1. Yes, Cosy Glow is a filly; a young female pony that is not fully matured, which in MLP is the equivalent of a child or a teenager. A filly is a girl, a colt is a boy. A foal can either be a girl or a boy. Once they grow up and become adults, they become a mare or a stallion(I doubt geldings exist in this universe, as they’re a neutered stallionXD).
2. Because Tirek craves power, and that blinds one to other ways of doing things. Once you base your life only on what you can take from others, you will always crave more and never be satisfied. He’s wanted to steal pony magic from the moment he heard of Equestria, so I suspect he never saw them as actual “people”; just a means to an end.
3. No idea why she can’t make a new hive; her requirements for reproduction were never brought up. Though since she’s based off of a colony insect queen, and said insect queens rely on mating with a male from their own hive(unless a foreign male finds her, and there don’t appear to be any other colonies), it’s safe to say that her ability to fertilize eggs is beyond her reach as long as she stays alienated from her original, reformed hive.
4. There’s a huge difference between receiving love and understanding love, and if you don’t understand it it’s hard to accept it. As well, capable leadership doesn’t require that you love those you lead; just that their well-being matters in your overall choices. Her inability to understand love is cannon; it’s just food and a source of power to her. From the examples of hive life we’ve been given, love was never actually encouraged. While she appreciated her drone’s services, raised them and sought to keep them fed, she was otherwise a cold leader. She didn’t discourage in-fighting or bullying, she didn’t actively give love(craving superiority and power over lessers), and otherwise acted like a typical queen ant or bee.
A lot of that comes from her origins, as well. Basically, a rotten acorn fell into a mysterious, toxic underground pool filled with the bones of deceased unicorns. The acorn grew in near-darkness out of the bubbling, green waters into a twisted tree whose branches contained Venus flytrap-like pods with fanged teeth, feeding on the equally twisted and blood-sucking flying insects living there. Unfortunately Starswirl the Bearded found the underground swamp, recognized the dark magic it was filled with, and nailed a warning sign to the tree to keep people away. That nail allowed the bark to crack open further, and out spewed Chrysalis and the first few changeling drones, hissing at each other angrily and violently. Let’s just say she was not born of anything resembling “good”.
5. Lord Tirek is a centaur prince, and has a race of centaurs like him back in his homeland; including his mentor who introduced him to equestrian magic through a kidnapped unicorn- right before the king banished Tirek’s mentor to the mines for his crimes(Tirek’s dad was P*SSED). I suspect that because humans don’t exist in the Mlpfim universe, a centaur isn’t half a human/half horse fusion, but it’s own kind of creature. Despite there being humans in G1, the humans had to be brought to the MLP world through some sort of mystical transportation by one of the G1 MLP. The humans in G1 owned perfectly normal horses, like we do. There was a manticore earlier in the series, showing that in this universe a manticore is much different kind of creature than Tirek.
Hope that helps!
Never trust curly hair girls
0 likesShinigami Phantom exactly
0 likesThink about Plague of Babies. They had what looked like normal Earth babies, but they were actually aliens, not babies. Therefore Cozy Glow is an alien.
1 likeNow I really want to see this in the actual series
3 likeschrysalis would become the friend who over shares their feelings
7 likesEmber embraced friendship but she was proud to be a dragon. While she was somewhat frustrated with her position she never faced rejection or outright hostility like Thorax did. She felt accepted by her culture and wanted to prove herself in it. Thorax never felt like he belonged with his own people.
3 likesImagine if Hasbro actually watches these to get ideas for the My Little pony show
6 likesReforming these three would be an insane mission for whoever dares to try.
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bet
105 likesahah
2 likesSawtooth Waves I bet 5 bucks
12 likesSawtooth Can you please do everything wrong with Th3birdman
3 likesWell reforming discord wasn't that easy either
9 likesI think Sawtooth has got this. Brohoof
10 likesWhat if you got your own team together to be a new 'main 6' witch a purpose of extreme reformation? ....
I'm doing my research for YouTubes best bronies and pegasisters now hehe......
@Sawtooth Waves i bet 5000000 bits
3 likesI've searched it up, 2 bits=25¢
True
2 likesBruh you actually replied. I'm going to think through my own opinion for their reformation soon
5 likesThe Phoenix 3000 and speaking of discord you can join sawtooth’s discord at Patreon.com/SawtoothWaves Edit:please do everything wrong with Th3birdman
2 likesMe too
0 likesYeah, they might pretend to be nice but you wont know if they're plotting something evil behind ya!
2 likes@Awsome Geek yasss
2 likes@Awsome geek what do you have so far
2 likesAlright so someone help me with what they 'represent ' but here is what I got:
6 likes1 obviously Sawtooth
2 Mlp-Silver-Quill
3 Dr Wolf
4 CannedCream
5 HoriXZ0n
6??? Help haha
@Awsome Geek maybe the 6th member can be Magpiepony
3 likes@Im XxWolfie_RockruffxX I am all for that bud lol. Doc Wolf would be.... kindness? Idk. I honestly feel like they represent different things than the elements.... they represent the different views and aspects of theory 😎
4 likes@Awsome Geek yeah
2 likesI STILL want a grogar battle !
3 likesDiscord: "Wait,did someone jusy say "insane mission?!" I REALLY like the sound of that,so count me in!" 😳
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves I wouldn't feel too sorry for chrysalis. Don't worry I'd there one thing I am sure of is that chrysalis is gone. Probably just the old hive settling.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves was thorax chrysalis's son?
0 likesI myself have taken that mission.
0 likes@Sweet Dreams 💙 really
0 likesOk
0 likesLMAO THAT REPLY
0 likesThis make me think of Sailor moon and the evil sister. Being that they where turned good one by one but the key thing being that once the first evil sister turned good she helped her other sister be good as well and then finally the two good sister turned there remaining sister to there side. So if these three where ever free I would agree that they would be turned one at a time, but once they had they would help the other two see friendship as well. My only wonder would be the order...I think that Chrysalis would personally be lasted to change due to the transformation and how pretty should could possibly look.
6 likesI'm honestly impressed you still make content even after a year of MLP's end. The content is real cool too so those are more points for us :)
3 likesDamn this was good. Using Pharynx as a bridge is brilliant.
2 likesGreat video, but in my opinion the images of a 'reformed' chrysalis look too much like Celestia. Chrysalis would most likely look more like Pharnyx, a bit darker.
3 likesI have no doubt that if Chrysalis did reform and turned into a reformed changeling, she'd look beautiful, just like the image in the video thumbnail, that's one of the reasons why i for one would've liked to see Chrysalis reformed just to know what she'd look like, but as many say it's kinda good she didn't.
150 likesThey should make a new season even if it ended 😭
6 likesShe so pretty when reformed
3 likesIn Reformation, Chrysalis would become the Spymaster of a Pan-Equestrian Alliance. Just from her debut she proved to be up there with the Culper Ring.
2 likesThough this does highlight why I don't like what happened to the changelings. They looked really cool in their creepy yet cute design and them being hideous creatures who feed on positive emotions made them very interesting.
2 likesI would have preferred if the ponies and changelings reached some kind of compromise. That the changelings can never create their own love and need to feed off of ponies. Maybe they create a set of laws to regulate that.
What about king sombra I would love to see him reformed
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Have you read the comics he is reformed comic is called siege of the crystal empire
82 likes...But he's dead now O.O
34 likesI've always bin pissed at wat they did to him in S9. Hes an ancient, evil, Umbra king and they think they can just whoop-dee-doo use necromancy and revive him like nothin' would be fine. Plus his personality was sh*t. He acted like he was Count Dracula and not an ancient warlord
96 likes@IceFlower413 // BUGFlower413 hes not dead
11 likes@Lady Ren Wasn't he dead before "Grogar"/Discord summon him? o.o
9 likes@RayzerSun they flanderised him a little that's true. Maybe his arrogance would've been pulled away after the failure and reborn again by "Grogar" and have a tight leash on him. Otherwise, yeah it makes sense he got vaporised.
11 likesYea
3 likesI think we lacked a villain that was a necessary evil in the world.
8 likesimagine it, if someone destroys that evil, the whole world is thrown into chaos since without bad...good can't exist.
that would have given the show a gut punch for ages to come, if sombra became evil out of kindness and selflessness, because he knew if the world didn't have a villain then the good of ponies can't exist.
All you’d have to do with him is let Luna handle it
4 likeshe ded
2 likes@Bloody Dragon I'm pretty sure that isn't canon. That comic from what I've heard (don't quote me on this) takes place before season 9, and an season 9 he's clearly evil
5 likes@Madilynn you tell me what happened between that comic and season nine cause the last time I checked he was reformed also the comics link on to the actual show don't believe me I can name a few that do
2 likes@Bloody Dragon uh... Season 9 spoilers just in case even tho notifications are bad
4 likesIn season 9 premiere he came back as a villain?? So unless this took place after he was defeated in season 9 its probably not canon due to the show contradicting it
@Madilynn one the comics are cannon I can name 8 that link on with the show 2 either the people running the show forgot or didn't care cause it was the last season
4 likes@Bloody Dragon The comics I say lean more towards semi-canon. Take Fiendship is Magic for instance. Both the show the comic show different origin stories as to how the Sirens got banished into the world of Equestria Girls. In the comic, King Sombra reformed. But in the show, he got destroyed a second time. In the comic, Sunset’s origin story included a different version of Moondancer. Meaning that the comic storyline isn’t at all connected to the show storyline.
8 likesUnless you count Season 10.
The problem with that is King Sombra is dead
2 likesHes a lost cause
2 likesHe dead
2 likesYes but he's not a changeling ._.
2 likesHes dead
2 likesHe's dead -_-
2 likesNo
2 likesBut he died
2 likes@IceFlower413 // BUGFlower413 Not really all you would have to do is make a circle and a m on it and BOOM he would return but there must be a key to reform him
2 likes/summon king_sombra
2 likesHe’s dead but yes I agree
0 likesBut he's dead lmao
0 likesme to!! but he’s dead.
3 likesHuh
0 likesEpic Wings Of Fire spoilers/reference ahead
2 likesThe changelings remind me a lot of the Rainwings because the changelings started out as tough and sorta feared. They can also shapeshift. That reminds me of the old Rainwings because the Rainwings used to be feared, and can change the color of their scales.
I don't know the reason why the Rainwings abandoned their ways, but now Rainwings are these chill dudes who eat fruit which is pretty cool, and changelings are now these chill dudes.
I also see the similarties between these to species (Rainwings and Changelings are from different franchise's though) because they both have bright colors and have like a connection to nature in some way sort of
and yes thats it
I would love to see G5 tackle this!
4 likesYou've got some interesting ideas on this topic, Sawtooth. Thanks for sharing this with us! ^_^
0 likesPharynx and Chrysalis do seem like they could get along, though I'm not sure how Pharynx would feel about the former queen trying to drain his brother. I'm surprised that the renegade changelings didn't seek out Chrysalis or vice versa. I guess Chrysalis didn't want to get caught, and the renegades didn't want to go too far from home. Still, it might have made for an interesting story if Chrysalis and Thorax were both trying to sway some renegade changelings to their side and a pre-reform Pharynx chose Thorax after Chrysalis tried to hurt him. Pharynx would agree to return to the hive but refuse to become "reformed", leading to the events of "To Change a Changeling".
I wonder why Chrysalis is the only changeling with hair and a pony-like eye design instead of the neck fins and jewel-like eyes most changelings have. Thorax's eyes stayed mostly the same aside from the coloring when he transformed into a changeling king. Hmm…
I just binge watched these episodes. They are actually really great!!!
2 likesThe 2 dislikes were from Cozy Glow and Tirek because he chose to reform Chrysalis first😂😂😂
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And the other one is that one unreformed changling lol 😂
110 likesH........ how??? Their spares?
35 likesOMG I GOT 5 PERCENT BATTERY WHEN I SAW THAT
34 likesAlso those 1,000 likes are from 3 year olds
23 likes@s t u p i d ! they can be from Tirek, Cozy Glow, Sombra, Chrysalis herself, and Grogar
25 likeshoney saeed uh that’s chrysalis
7 likesruben cabrera true....
6 likes@s t u p i d ! 😂😂😂😂😂
6 likesPlus film and flam, the washout’s, that one character that was controlling Rara, Svengallop, that one character that was facing off with rarity in a faction show where she lost by hotel materials, that dragon who tryed to be spike’s parent (Sludge i think?). Wind Rider and a few others that may or may not watch this video and give a dislike.
10 likesUhhh they probably put a like on it because of that
7 likesXD
4 likes@R true and discord cos hes not "reformed reformed"
4 likes25 dislikes
3 likes26 likes
3 likes@ETERNAL PG3D ?
1 likeThe other dislikes were from all the villains
3 likesThe charicters arr animaited so they cant look at yt -_-
2 likesBoi
3 likesLol
3 likes@R that's Twilight celestia and luna
2 likesThey made so many accounts
5 likes33
4 likesSthawtooth waves one can I work along side u an to...its a miracle that crisleise has a chance to reform one day thank God an haliloya baby
4 likesThere's 44 now uhh
3 likesBut who are the other 43 from?
3 likes@phat bingus so true
2 likes@Nxptune.cherry way to ruin all the fun... TmT
5 likesAnd all the other dislikes goes to their alts
2 likesyou have 666 likes
4 likescrazy glue + parents = not evil!!!
2 likes@Ellen's Toy Room 1. I'm a girl. 2. I have no idea what that means.
3 likes69 dislikes now
2 likesLol
2 likes@Yangchen Chogyal lol
1 likeThey made 79 alt accounts
0 likesWhat about 82-
0 likes@Indigo_ Explain tomorrow
0 likesThere are 95 dislikes
0 likes._.
1 likeAnd the 103 dislikes is from the other accs
0 likesAnd the others are just cozy and rirek too but they made as many random acc to dislike 😂 their rlly upset ayy
0 likesThe dislikes are from the villans
0 likesTheir alt accounts
0 likes@honey saeed yep
0 likesoverused joke
0 likesThere 121 I believe
0 likes123 dislikes 😔
0 likesNow there is 123 dislikes what kind of haters they have to like
0 likesI know
0 likesCozy Glow and Tirek are not real they are fiction character and drawn
1 likeLol😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
2 likesLol
1 likeThey should be grateful.
1 like@s t u p i d ! Who Cares
0 likesNOW THERE ARE 181 DISLIKES
2 likesNxptune.cherry how can some-one hit so far from the joke
0 likeslol
0 likesLol
2 likesI agree let's do chrysalis first
1 like253 dislikes!!!!!
0 likesHhhaaaaaa brelliant
0 likesLol
0 likesYeah 😭😭😭
0 likesim going to surpass uuuuu... uwu
0 likes@eatornator3000 Ok?
0 likesIf that’s not it I’m not sure what it is...
0 likesYa
0 likesUr right
0 likesChrisilis is easier
0 likesOh dude you need to play adopt me or watch sanna and moody BIGER BROBLEMS
2 likes
2 likes300 likes aheadw-wait, n-no, like mine instead!, "loses likes", * N A N I ! *
And their clones
0 likesThere are 337
1 like@cute wool wrong, i made it 338
0 likesHow did you guessed?
1 likeYup 😂😂😂😂
0 likesummm what did that mean i dont understand
0 likesLol
0 likes@Nxptune.cherry R/Woosh
0 likesHi, my meme is stronger
0 likes@eatornator3000 And?
0 likesNow its 495
0 likesWith their multi accounts
0 likesHahahha
0 likesthe others are all villains not revealed yet.
1 likeNow there are 722
0 likesWow they are still making accounts
it actually has 722 dislikes sadly :(
0 likesnow 775 hundred dislikes
0 likesOmg lol and ur right
0 likesNow there is 787 dislikes
0 likesAnd the 796 others Are all the villains from season one to 10 and all the movies
0 likesHow is there now 803 dislikes there is too many dislikes
0 likesDang they made a hell lot of alt accs
0 likes@Janel Paslowski 809 now
0 likesMakes sense I guess😂🤣
1 likeWhy reform Chrysalis?
0 likesSawtooth is a reformed changeling lol so he wants to reform his queen
there’s now 814 so okay-
0 likesNow it’s 815
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesVery very true 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesThe 831 dislikes are from people that did not like the video for some reason
0 likesLol 😂
0 likesThe 836 are tirek, cozy glow, and the unreformed changelings
0 likes120th reply and I’m dying of laughter xD
0 likesAnd the rest of them was nok reformed changlings
0 likesYeah but she is much more pretty that way
0 likes@phat bingus and chrysalis simps and chrysalis gf
0 likesHe?
0 likesOk
0 likesRemember when we could see dislikes
0 likesAs far as I see Chrisalis takes love and Cadence spreads love 💗
5 likesI'd say the villains would pull a Discord, and grow especially attached to someone, leading them to reformed
2 likesIf that's official art of reformed Chrysalis, I love it! It's so pretty.
0 likesCant discord just use his magic to cast a protection spell on them which prevents them from doing anything evil and then release them so they could find out how beneficial friendship is on their own?
1 likeHonestly I hope when chrysalis gets reformed she looks the same from when she is evil for um reasons!
2 likesI LOVED THIS THANKS SO MUCH!!!
1 likeWell if I had any doubt that my love for this series had ebbed or dissipated whatsoever me getting emotional over the telling of Chrysalis meeting and fighting Phalanx only to see the truth, have her eyes open, and willingly reform put that to rest. I'm still a brony, through and through, and I can still get emotional over pastel colored horses, god I'd kill to have this exact plot be a fic I could read on FiMfiction.
0 likesThis was amazing. I wish that she was reformed before the show ended. °^°
0 likesCan you please do a video about Cozy Glow’s parents.
3746 likesShe is a fillie after all.
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Yesssss!!!!!!!!!!!
88 likesHow.... have I never thought of that before now??
182 likesI think she is an orphan, and that is why I send letters to tirek for lack of any adult pony to watch over her
252 likesHmm... that makes since... wow. I mean mlp already had a pretty good grasp on lessons about parents or lack of ((haha scootalo until she got her parents tempted bacc)) but this would be really interesting...
103 likesOr a theory about her backstory....like why is she....she so evil? What is her motivation?
107 likesMaybe she has some kind of growth disease
33 likesOr what does her cutie mark mean?
46 likesIt doesn’t look or mean Evil to me
@Miniş Dünyası
47 likesIt can mean something of dominance, as it is a tower
I think she is a self-made orphan.
30 likes@Keylime python who knows
15 likesI honestly think that Chrysalis or Tirek could be better parents for Cozy Glow. I mean her family was never ever there for her.
44 likesruben cabrera Thanks
4 likesOr maybe she escaped from her real home either her parents were awful to her or too nice
20 likes@Miniş Dünyası
34 likeswhen in the first episode of season 9 cozy glow made a statuette of her friendship with tirek, but from the representation of their friendship it seemed to me that she saw him more as a father than as a friend
@R Actually, her cutie mark is a piece from the game Chess. This probably means the she is very smart and plays her moves very stragically, without anyone even noticing what's happening. Her cutie mark proves that she has a clever mind and knows what to do and when to do it.
57 likes@Miniş Dünyası
6 likesafter all a real home would dominate a territory or something like that, so there would still be some dominance
OOoH yes
0 likesPrincess Flutterheart power
0 likesI'm sure he will
2 likesYesssssssssss
2 likesruben cabrera I think you’re right
2 likesSynce when does she have a cutie mark? None of the changelings do
2 likesShes a queen bee or queen aunt. Young queens either leav3 wyth a small starter hyve or are kylled. Synce she obvi wasnt kylled, that means there are other changling hyves out there... Und changling hyves out there... Just waiting 2 stryke all the new civalizations full of love.. even some gryffins r freinds, gabby and rainbows freind whos name i forgot but ill remeber soon.
3 likesAnt not aunt
1 likeIt is not legal to turn A FILLY into stone
8 likesyasss pleasee
0 likesYeah!
0 likesGalaxyGamer 101 I hope so in Equestria
4 likesOh yh
0 likesIdk why shes bad seed get it cos she was nice then bad
0 likes@Princess Flutterheart Her motive is pretty lackluster...she just wants power.
3 likes@Amber Slahlize Oh yh
0 likesWell she went to school of friendship And then tea,ed up with tirek and chrysalis
0 likes@• Evil Slime 😈 Frog • Posing as something doesn't change the motive.
0 likesRolling Thunder
0 likesI think the one thing Cozy glow needs was friends but maybe something happened when she took it the wrong way of it begin power. One quote she said is.. (Correct me if im wrong) "Then I'll have more friends than you!" Then after begin imprisoned in Tartus. She even still tried making friends with Tirek.
6 likesGalaxy gamer the rulers of euqusrtria turned her to stone (twylyght hadnt been crowned yet) so it was legal
1 like@Saki Anandani
2 likessomething I realized that in season 17 episode 17 she was playing chess, maybe her cutie mark has nothing to do with her evil
Miniş Dünyası filly*
0 likesMaybe her parents sent her to the school of friendship because they knew that she could live there and forgot about or she was sent to the school of friendship because she was lonely and sad. Because her parents died before she went there and she believes that you need the power to be happy because no one was there for her so yea that's all I got
4 likesAppledash Ismyfaveship That could be the case
2 likesmakes a video talking about how Cozy Glow is not a fillie
1 likeOh yes
0 likesMiniş Dünyası Chessmaster. She’s a chess piece, the rook is a chess piece that’s practically useless in the beginning of chess and just “under the radar”. Only when the board gets emptier the rook begins to matter more as it’s able to move vertically and horizontally, can go from one extreme of the board to another—it’s very used in endgames for Checkmates.
4 likesFatd0gg0 she said
3 likes“You might be the Princess of Friendship, but as headmare of this school, I can collect even more friends than you!”
She seems to think of friends as collectibles
It would be interesting to know
1 like@Miniş Dünyası I think it's a reference to the tower arcana
1 likeI have wonder who her parents are
0 likes@Saki Anandani bro that's smart
1 likeWhat if her parents died not just her parents her whole family
2 likesyes omg!
0 likesMøchi Bear Maybe
1 likeFor some reason, I feel like her parents died in an unfortunate and suspicious house fire...
4 likes@strxwberri_cookii that's way to dark for a kids show. I bet they're adventurers like Scootaloos parents
0 likesAnd one about Kind Vlorak/Tirek’s father unless he already has
0 likesXD Cozy is homeless now XD
0 likesMiniş Dünyası 😂
0 likesMiniş Dünyası I think it’s the queen or rook in chess, meaning that she plays everyone to doing her bidding. Everyone is her pawn to be sacrificed so she can win.
3 likesShe's bullied by mean unicorns saying that she dont have magic because she dosent have a horn. So she got really mad and sad and became evil Idk.
1 likeI like to imagine that she is actualy a grown up mare trapped in a filly's body.
3 likesYou know
Like that insane serial killer that looked like a child.
You know.
From that weird horror/thriller movie...
I mean.
It's a real illness.
It would be...
Effed up...
But you know...
The whole situation with her is ALREADY effed up
Her parents MUST be Karens
1 likeAwesome Geek I thought they had a good grasp on parents but then they made that episode with Scootaloos parents who are a few of the worst parents I’ve seen in a kids show painted to be good
0 likesYeah ask lauren faust whose cozy glows parents
0 likesPoor Baby. She doesnt know right from wrong yet and is power hungry. They can knock it out of her.
3 likes@Saki Anandani i really like this theory cuz u know she is very good at manipulating other ponys with her "cuteness"
0 likesWhat’s a filli
0 likessen de mi turk
0 likesCihan Keskin Yes
1 likeMiniş Dünyası Yeah. What’s the deal with her? I bet she was an orphan.
0 likesDefinitely one of the shows biggest remaining question marks...
0 likesAwesome Geek/ Sunshine *sense
0 likesGalaxyGamer 101 Says who? Jail isn’t good enough for her.
0 likesEmily Clarke Teamed up.
0 likesFatd0gg0 Friends? More like minions.
0 likesCaleb Lardizabal Maybe it’s because of a result of her cutie mark. We’ll never know.
0 likesExactly I'm like what in the world is up with this baby 😂
1 like@R that's might be why she's evil because she's sad that her parents abandon her
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası exactly
0 likesTeddyO That could be the case
2 likesFilly
0 likesI always think off that! Like how in eQeStRia did the show not at least have like one line about Cozy clow's mom or dad! (Also she is my favoritt vilan)
0 likesI had a dream about cozy clow being hypnost to be bad but i don't remeber who did it....
0 likesYepp
0 likesI thought they were clear that she came from some parallel universe where there was no magic. We don't know if she's even a pony where she's from. Since the multiverse was part of the original series plans and seems to be working into G4.5, I suspect she's an underdeveloped bridge to that.
1 likeKemlo Caesar Maybe
1 likeHasbro should a least tell us about her past of that she has parents and why is she evil in the first place.
1 likeI actually had a GREAT theory about that I sent to sawtooth. I hope he reads it :3
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası its of a rook piece from chess. Not as low as a pawn, however not as important as a queen. She has always been sort of the "sidekick" and barely seen as an equal in the eyes of the other villains. From what I've seen, she is simultaneously really good at raising up her "friends" but also craves power.
0 likeslucarin Thanks
1 like@Miniş Dünyası It's a chess piece, I think a rook, which is one of the most powerful in the game of chess, a mind game.
1 like@Amber Slahlize Make me think of someone who also want power "Virgil" with his inferiority complex.
0 likesNo. Stop excusing her because she’s a child
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası It's a chess piece. She's a manipulator. It's about how she is constantly strategizing and moving pieces around on her board. Everything she does is a means to an end. That child is definitely some Antisocial Personality Disorder mess.
2 likesYes
0 likesI think trixie or starlight is the mum of her or an orphan but I do want a video about her and her parents
0 likesYesh
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası Its a chess piece which means she's good at calculating problems, predictions, and manipulating. She is good at controlling people. She is the player and everyone else is her pawn.
2 likesI wonder if her parents are dead, or they don't care about her. Maybe that's what drove her mad?
1 likeMiniş Dünyası her Mark is a chess piece maybe she’s being used as a pawn like in chess or she sees other people as her pawns
1 like@Sheena Ford it doens't matter after all somethimes mlp have some dark moments
1 like@francisco Davi true
1 like@Keylime python good idea also lol your profile picture
0 likesOo
0 likesI bet you do dont know my backstory😈😈
1 likeYASS
1 likeAbsolutely!!! That would be a great video!
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası it’s a chess piece so people have thought that it means manipulation or something, which makes the most sense to me. :)
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası Maybe they died or put her in an orphanage because they couldn't look after her or they just abandoned her???
0 likesI was thinking about this the other night, and kind of came up with the thought that Cozy Glow’s parents are neglectful of her, to the point that she decided to do something drastic to prove herself worthy of her parents love
2 likesYesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
0 likesYea
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası I think it’s for manipulation, you manipulate chess pieces, right? And Cozy was able to manipulate a whole school as a FILLY.
1 likeI agree
0 likesBig time
@Keylime python damn probably
0 likes@Saki Anandani clever as she may have been, she still got stoned and lost it all.
1 likeNeglect and abuse is a huge possibility, people who suffer through it sometimes will become "cold"
1 like@Jay Did you make this quote up? Where’s this quote from? It’s a really good quote
1 like@Miniş Dünyası
0 likesIt's not a quote, abuse is something I've went through and deal with still at times of my life. I'm not "cold", I'm a quite caring person but I know how to disconnect from my emotions and the world, that's why I put "cold" in quotations
Good idea 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👌🏽
1 likeanswer: She KILLED her parents
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası children can be evil you know?
0 likes@Keylime python yeah she killed them
0 likesHere's Cozy Glow's backstory. WARNING: Hits hard in the feels. Cozy Glow had parents that were abusive, both physically and verbally. She endured constant mistreatment. She was never appreciated. She never felt loved. One day, her parents were diagnosed with cancer. It was incurable, even with magic. They died and never told her the words every child longs to hear- "I love you." But rather "You don't deserve friendship." Having taken their cruel words, Cozy Glow believed she wasn't worthy of having friends. She never knew kindness. She only felt abuse. It came to the point she contemplated ending her life.😿Prepare for anime tears and full ugly crying.
0 likesWow Chrysalis looks so beautiful reformed
1 likeim so mad about the treatment of changelings in mlp.
1 likefirst they were stripped of all their interesting traits (two-pitched voices, and especially their hive biology – thorax and pharynx are called brothers even though all of the hive should be siblings, and generally the whole hive gimmick gets abandoned pretty quick and just serves to mean 'changeling country), then chrysalis was denied chance at redemption even though realistically she was the most likely villain to be redeemed, being driven by entirely unselfish motivations; and THEN once the remaining changelings got reformed they got prettyfied because god forbid something benign look scary on the surface 🙄🙄 i love mlp but ill always be mad about the changeling thing.
Love the reformed Chrysallis screenshot design
1 likeI love how you pictured Chrysails. So beautiful🌈👌😃
0 likeshonestly, you should totally do a reform vid about Sombra, sure he died but it's been shown that he can come back even easier than the three, it would be nice to see how you would work your King Cobalt headcanon into his reformation.
1 likeshe's SOO beautiful!:3
0 likesBefore today I never realized how fascinating the original changeling culture were!! They cared for others in the hive and obeyed completely to the queen and relentlessly devour everything else…😍😍sounds evil but at the same time so attractive!!
0 likesShe looks so different!
2 likesI like the idea of reforming Chrysalis! I honestly think Chrysalis’s reformed form and original form will be combined so that way Chrysalis can learn the new ways rom Thorax!
0 likesAs I commented in one of Silverquill's videos about villains, I feel like there's a possible return of not only Chysalis, but Cozy Glow and Tirek in G5. After all, prisoners in statues don't exactly age while in their encased state, so perhaps the new mane 5 , or possibly a rouge pony (or creature), will one day find the lost statue of the old villain and somehow manage to revive them. After all, this wouldn't be the first time a villain would be awoken from their petrified slumber, so it wouldn't be out of the question. I feel like if anyone can be able to at least try to convince the old villains to reform and start anew, it could be Sunny or perhaps even Izzy.
0 likesThat would be awesome to see chrysalis, lord tirek, cozy glow, and king sombra reformed
0 likesYeah, of the 3, she does have some part of her physic that one could delve into in order to help her stop being straight out evil. maybe without the hunger she'd become a more benevolent leader, if not stern in her leadership.
0 likesCozy I think though would be the easiest to handle since she literally has no magic beyond flight. One could take her and have in depth physiological study on her and then be able to teach her where she completely failed on friendship. That's her biggest problem is despite going to that school and excelling (if wasn't all cheated), she truely did not understand anything that was taught.
The last guy is bit more difficult... Means he consumes magic and gets stronger, they'd need Discord for sure to watch over. T-reck also doesn't seem to even have a soft side, let alone care for anyone in their world. He's fully self consumed and isn't scared to utterly destroy everything for sake of himself becoming all powerful. If anyone was to be left stone, it's him. Maybe even just go safe side and crush into dust :P
If anyone can reform these three it's definitely Saw tooth, but just be careful when doing it, and probably keep a good distance from tirek since he might try to drain your magic if your too close to him so probably best to try and get to him last once you've reformed the other two first, Love the videos and hope you keep making them
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Your going to have to use some spell that prevents him from draining magic and getting back to his villainous ways. Then we can begin the process of reforming him. As we saw in the second to last episode, Tirek just wanted to please his father. If we can convince him that pleasing his father wasn't his goal or maybe something like that, then maybe it'll be enough to reform him. The motivation behind his actions is getting praise from his father, if we can give him a feeling that he doesn't need to make his dad proud of him and that he can still be appreciated by others, then he'll no longer have to look to the dark side.
18 likesWhat do you think?
Maybe have Discord remove Tirek's power source: his horns, same with chrysalis' horns and for cozy... keep her guarded by the cmc and remove her wings (cozy would not age due to being stone and the cmc are adults assuming this takes place after the time skip of the last episode of G4)
10 likes@The Magnificent Dummy you may have a point
6 likes@Mathew Watson It may take some time to do the reformation for Tirek though, he may still be spiteful towards Scorpan, and it may take a lot of counselling to finally get him to reform, but it still is possible, we just have to put in more effort. Cozy, I have no idea how. We weren't given much information about her, her past is really vague. The only thing that was taken into account was that she believes friendship isn't important. Maybe she made friends before but was backstabbed by them which led her to despising friendship?
6 likesYou are actually right so if i were you stay away from tirek because i don't want to say this but he could actually trick you and why didn't you tackle cozy glow you know first she is weaker than them
3 likesplot twist they turn him into a villian and he spends 2 seasons worth of time unreforming villians.
5 likesI actually think it would be beneficial to do cozy last- as long as she thinks she still has support in being evil she will keep at it, even at the start she was in contact with tirek- if tirek reforms she might just reform with him.
4 likesCan’t you just bring them to Doctor Wolf’s therapy sessions?? Because nobody can steal his magic since he was gifted it.
5 likes@Krissy_ ᖴᗩᑎᗪOᗰ_GIᖇᒪ yeah that could work but they might argue or mess up his office so probably best to put magic proof artifacts to prevent those two from using magic just to be on the safe side
5 likes@Some Guy that uses the internet Stick the horn where the sun don't shine.
0 likesAll Chrysalis needs is a pink puffy pony that likes tacos
6 likesLove this idea it should sooo be an episode because I would watch it in a heart beat
0 likesWe should be all friends so every single Pony won't be a villain anymore
2 likesI agree w/ u chrysalis has a bright future ahead i can see it lets just hope the new generation of ponys can reason w/ her
1 likeMy question is how Chrysalis and Tirek could have been reformed prior to the final 3 episodes of season 9 (the "if" I already know).
1 likewhat I would love to see is anyone of them (changelings culture could be extremly intersting) reforming but without any visual aspects to it. They would still have the same old appearance but without all the violence in their behaviour. Maybe they could even try living along the ponies.
0 likesI always wanted to see Chrysalis reformed. Now I take it as my personal headcannon. And NOT because I see Chrysalis hot af. Nope. Not at all. NOT AT ALL!! That's the official version, and I'll stick to it.
1 like1:43 that chrysalis is bootiful
5 likesI have a theory about the flowing mane
274 likesWhenever a princess is in her element she gets her flowing mane. For, example at cadence’s wedding when her and shining armor made the heart her hair was flowing. In the second part of twilight’s kingdom when twilight takes in the magic of all four alicorns she gets a flowing mane. It’s the same later when she tries to raise the sun. Luna and Celestia’s manes are always flowing because I think if a princess does a final accomplishment her mane stays flowing. I think this happened when Twilight decided to have her friends rule with her. Maybe Celestia’s happened when she learned to raise the sun and Luna when she learned to raise the moon.
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So did Cadence accomplish something but then it backfire? Her mane never flowed again unless I'm forgetting the last episode wrong.
22 likesHow do you explain Mistmane? She had a flowing mane before. It’s so weird!
28 likesAlexander Narag she gave up her beauty for some one else so that’s why her mane flows
17 likesCorrupted but her mane was flowing even before she gave up her beauty
14 likesI am talking about alicorns mist mane is just a unicorn
6 likesSudhir Naik but that does not explain why she has flowing mane
5 likesYes I know but my theory only involves alicorns not unicorns 🦄
6 likesYeah, but I hypothesize that chrysalis was a alicorn. Just watch Discords daughter:the movie and you will understand this part: Chrysalis used magic and took out her heart, but now she feeds off of love from ponies. So maybe she was an alicorn, but turned into what she is now? And that is the end of my theries
6 likesDaughter of Discord The Movie
3 likesThe magic backfired
2 likes@Mjae Gacha Bride of Discord and Daughter of Discord are fanfictions that were turned into fanmade audio dramas. They're not canon, and have no place in talking about theories about the actual canon.
4 likesBut when Luna came back from the moon in season one she didnt have a flowing mane for some reason and that was when she already learnt to raise the moon
4 likesWhen the sisters lost their magic their mane stopped flowing, but not sparkling. But when Luna became Luna after being night mare moon so long her mane wasn't flowing or sparkling.
3 likesThen why do Mistmane and King Sombra have flowing manes?
3 likes@Joseline Costa Maybe she is too young
2 likesSudhir Naik Actually, that is a good idea but...
4 likesThe true flowing mane is when a pony has lots of magic. Celestia and Luna have a lot of magic and when they gave it to twilight with Cadence, she raised the sun her mane was flowing because she was using a lot of power and had it. I know it went back when she still had it and her mane was still but that’s because she didn’t have her own magic. As for cadence, she and shining armor had the power of love which is almost as much as the magic of friendship and when she used it, her mane flowed just like Twilights. But Cadence’s magic then didn’t flow because Shining armor gave her strength aswell and that’s why when she used it her mane flowed.
But still, good idea! I love the creativity. Honestly, the mane flowing has a lot of reasons so no one is right or wrong.
@Mjae Gacha Discord’s Daughter (which I just watched,ironically) is not canon
0 likesMy theory is when an alicorn gets to a certain age, their magic reaches its peak. And the energy is so powerful that it makes their own mane flow with the magical energy. I wanted to make a sorta comedic story about this with each princess. Flurry heart will be the hardest.
1 likeI guess this can also be linked to unicorns too.
@UmbreonTwinkle oh that’s a cool idea!
0 likesI’ve always wondered what chrysalis looked like reformed!
0 likesI can understand why Thorax would be seen as a threat to her and the other changelings cultural identity, and the point of the video was about how she could be reformed, however, there is one thing I find interesting about how the changelings have exchanged their culture more easily. Their culture drastically changed because they were becoming a new and they likely didn't care much to keep the old one because of how they starved and suffered in it, so now they probably wanted a new identity to leave behind the old one, and pony culture was the closest and seemingly desirable option. Having guards and an army was one of the things they should have kept in their culture, but have associated it with their hive queen too closely; so what other important or unique parts of the original culture that could have been admired were discarded in their haste for love and change?
1 likeThat was so good I’m tearing up
1 likeYeah Chrysalis didn’t even accept it when Starlight tried to help her after her hive was destroyed, this is a great and very smart Sawtooth video, he probably had to do a lot of thinking to get these done, and the effort he puts into these videos, wow!
0 likesAlso I know why chrysalis is like this because she wants love 💕 for her hive but if she is nice 👍 she can get love 💕 for her hive from herself or something and after all she did for them they Abandon her! That’s why she’s so unhappy with it
2 likesThe whole test thing gives me The Good Place vibes :)
1 likeI will admit, when I was a lot younger, the Queen Chrysalis transformation sequence scared the piss out of me. I don't know why, it may have been the eyes in that scene? It just scared me so much. I can watch it with no problem now, and I won't lie, Chrysalis was an interesting character to me. I even went as far as to own the toy. XD
0 likesI like idea you put in here I know that she's going to reform It's a beautiful changeling
0 likesEveryone: trying to find a cure for covid, and get 2020 back on track
276 likesSawtooth:
WE MUST REFORM CHRYSALIS
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YASS QUEEN
12 likesPLOT TWIST!
10 likesChrysalis IS COVID 19!!!!
@Some Guy that uses the internet haha
2 likesThat might be the cure lmao
3 likesy e s
2 likesThe funniest thing about me watching these videos is that the last time I watched MLP was when I was 4 and remember nothing, and yet here I am, invested in these theories while only partially understanding them.
0 likesHonestly, i never knew why people keep making Chrysalis's reformed form blue and green and such. If anything, i would've made her the opposite colors, which is basically just a coral color and a light grey.
1 likeGreat choice, i would like the queen changeling to be reformed
0 likesI just realized something, is it possible that since Twilight saw how diverse Equestria has become, stop the alicorn tradition of being the rulers of Equestria then set up a council to rule over equestria? And is it possible over the years the 3 stoned villains were released just like discord and they were the ones who separated the 3 pony tribes as well as raising tensions between species? It would kind of explain what happened to g5
0 likesEdit; Main problem with this theory is that the villains are nowhere to be seen, and I have a theory for that but all of this is speculation; maybe they were defeated by the other species since they also have friendships and can use the power of friendship, and the crystals could be the gift of those species before they defeated the villains to help them defend against the villains and maybe even reunite them, there's also the problem with the magic, if I think of something I will edit this comment again.
"Make them choose between friendship and tyranny"
576 likesBruh, Cozy's entire philosophy is that they're the same thing. But like Discord, if she grows to care about somebody else enough to not want to do anything that'll hurt them, there's a chance.
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By the way that you are talking,it seems like there is not much hope. To get Cozy to see that Friendship and Tyranny aren't actually the same things. That they are in reality different and that she has just gotten them both VERY badly confused with one another somehow.
31 likesDiscord was never a villain
5 likesYes he was
9 likes@whudafxupd00d1 No. If he was a villain, he wouldn't give anyone a chance.
10 likesTe Min he tried to kill the mane six. Until Fluttershy convinced him friendship was better
8 likes@ShadowWolf 909 Kill? Really? Discord never wanted to kill anyone.
11 likesTe Min I think he was more of someone who’s definition of “fun” was.....really different.
12 likes@ShadowWolf 909 discord didnt try to kill them given his Powers he can just think of it and the entire Equestria is Toast all he did was to change their personalities in the oposite of who they wore
9 likesStill wrong but nowhere near killing all he ever did as a "villain" was to have a very twisted version of the word "Fun"..
Cozy on the other hand..well her entire plan involved around getting rid of any threat
Yeah. But how do you appeal to Cozy Glow since the same solution will never work
2 likesI ship her with pipsqueak, so he'd work!
0 likes@Dark Whispers Stories Cozy Glow's idea of fun would make Jigsaw Killer blush. Even The Punisher would be terrified.
1 likeShe looks stunning 👀
0 likesI think the method of redemption for Chrysalis is right on the money. Pharynx is the best one to reform Chrysalis
0 likesReformed Chrysalis is beautiful >w<
0 likesI just need to rewatch this to see more of her in her reformed form
0 likesCozy: Have Diamond Tiara share her personal experience of how manipulating ponies for power didn’t make her happy.
842 likesTirek: Make him sit down with Scorpan. Let Tirek share how he felt from his brother’s betrayal, and let Scorpan share his empathy with ponykind. Maybe tackle Tirek’s dad issues.
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dAdDy iSsUeS
49 likesDiamond Tiara had mother issues, I'm sure she could relate with Tirek.
8 likes@Alsu Nur ÇAKMAK let’s calm her down with a controlled shock
14 likes@Jackieee sister location reference here
7 likesI thought it was flurry heart and cozy glow
4 likes@Soft Wax YESS
0 likesHe's dead
0 likesI can’t believe you got the exact thing that Sawtooth did for reforming Cozy! You are very clever. Wow!
2 likesThis is probably Cozy Glow's backstory. WARNING: Hits hard in the feels. Cozy Glow's parents were abusive, physically and verbally. Then one day they were diagnosed with cancer. It was incurable, even with magic. (I'm not sure if they have magic that cures cancer. Probably not.) They died and never said the words every child longs to hear- "I love you." She took their cruelty to heart. She never felt loved. She never had a true friend. She never knew love. She only knew abuse and hatred. She inflicted that abuse on others. She longed for affection, but all she received was abuse to the point she wanted it to end. She thought about ending her life.😿 Prepare for anime tears and full ugly crying.
1 likeIs it just me or does sawtooth sound like a good parent 😂❤
0 likesI love the design of the reformed Chrysalis. It’s so pretty 🤩
2 likesI think it would be nice to see the good in chrysalis as an mlp episode
1 likeWhenever I see something like this, especially the transformed Chrysalis from the thumbnail, I can only think of the lines from Scary Movie 3:
0 likesChrysalis (transformed): "Thank you all. Your love has broken the curse and freed my soul. I'll never have to kill again."
Mane Six: "Really?"
Chrysalis (normal): "Nah, I'm just screwing with ya" Commences another Changeling Invasion of Canterlot
thank you. i always thought there was something wrong with the way the changelings are now. i didn't know what it was, but now i see that they, as a newly reformed empire, turned to the cuddliness of pony life, losing all of their fierceness and a lot of their sense of pride in their empire.
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Luckily, I think the changelings are getting better about that. At the end of To Change a Changeling, they agree that they've been too soft and ask Pharynx to help them rediscover their tougher side, and I figure that's probably going well.
0 likesChrysalis is so prettyyy! <3
0 likesI love this theory and I wish MLP made a episode with this theory
1 like🙃🙃
Chrysalis is so pretty when she reformed !!
0 likesI think chrysalis is the most beautiful of the reformed changelings. She kind of reminds me of like season one princess Celestia
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Yea
5 likesThe problem with Chrysalis is she's too power hungry. Starlight tried to convince her she can be a good ruler by embracing love and not taking it from others. But she wants to rule by force, even if it means keeping the hunger the rest of the hive managed to beat. Honestly, she's the kind of villain you can't reform without hurting her. She has to suffer to fully understand why her ambitions and rejection of friendship is wrong. I think if Tirek and Cozy had run off with her magic, leaving her weak and helpless on the mountain until some compassionate pony came to help her, that would have done it.
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No, I think to reform Chrysalis she must first lost Cozy and Tirek and she will see that she wanna Friendship more I think
0 likesIf they were to be reformed, I feel like instead of celestia or twilight taking them out of their stone imprisonment, it would be Princess Flurry Heart, probably in her teens like 15. Since she is rumored to be the princess of light, and naturally being the daughter of cadence, she would have more kindness, trust, and forgiveness then twilight would, especially since all three of the villains have made worse damage then other villains. Twilight most likely would want to keep them in stone forever instead of taking the chance, except for our powerful light hearted alicorn princess of light. Most likely she would take precautions and use a spell to make it so chrysalis and terik cant use their power while she attempts to reform them. I imagine that they would play along, waiting to earn her trust and then backstab her. But perhaps slowly she would get a bond with each of them, like fluttershy and discord had.
0 likesSigue Siendo Maravilloso ☺️
0 likesI really want to see that but with a different ending. I want to see reformed Chrysalis make herself a NEW hive.
0 likesBasically, in bees, if the hive is overpopulated, the queen can fake dying and the bees would chose who would be the next queen. With that, the queen can run away with half of the hive and creat a new colony.
I really want to see Chrysalis making a new hive with changeling that doesn't want to just copy ponies. Making herself legends, stories to make the changelings different from the ponies but in a respectful way, like not saying that ponies destroyed her hive but made her realized that her tyranny had to stop and letting place to new hives, like hers or Thorax's one.
it honestly blows my mind how someone could be THIS smart! these theories....they make so much sense! love your videos btw!!!
56 likesLove the reformed Chrysalis art ! Shame that story will remain our fan dreams
0 likesYou know how Cadence used her horn to make two ponies share love for each other in twilight’s flashback? If Cadence does that to Queen Chrysalis she’s be SHARING LOVE which would cause her to turn colorful and not be hungry. Although this would be a little harsh on her I think It would work out in the end
0 likesThis would be interesting, although i think these three villans are meant to represent those who have done bad things and wont change, as much as some would want to help them, there are those who you cannot help.
0 likesI just find this ironic.
Starlight believed Twilight destroyed all her work since Starlight believed she "built" the perfect community, (which was a chain reaction from her choice in the past). Even though Starlight was dead set on getting her revenge, in the end she realised what she did was wrong. Than there is Chrysalis; In her eyes Starlight destroyed what she had created and also was dead set on revenge just as Starlight was towards Twilight. Even with i guess a hoof out for Chrysalis was to help her, she refused. In s9, even though she could still change, she didn't move from her plan to take out Starlight.
I do wanna see chrysalis change because when starlight talked to her infront of others i saw a quilt in her it was there so i think its still a hope
0 likesWhen she said that quote, she said "I watched it happen to the hive and I don't want it to happen to me." That means she had a strong bond with the hive.And she was sad she lost her family\hive.
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She's a narcissistic egomaniac and a psychopath.
10 likesShe lost her position of power and her servants. If she really had that strong bond she would have accepted Starlight's offer. But she wouldn't have been ruler of the hive, she'd be leader. And to despots that's a big difference.
45 likes@azamonra at her defense it looked more like ponies conquering her hive more than helping and like a brainwash from Starlight from her point of view =^
32 likesIf she's the queen of the hive like an ant or bee...
10 likesDose she lay all the changeling eggs?
Do they lay eggs? They are insects after all?
If it's true....
How they get fertilized?
Darian true
4 likesLike bees and ants, there’s drone insects that are bred to mate with the Queen in order for her to lay eggs. In bees, the males die after wards so it’s not like there’s a parent dynamic with the new eggs, just to pass on a generation and keep their Hive alive.
0 likes@azamonra More like she thinks its really not good with what happened to her hive(I mean.. they turned into skittle bugs and "Feelings Forums" crap we saw in To Change A Changeling).
1 likeThey need to touch on why is Chrysalis so stubborn to reform. Having her just be stubborn/prideful for the sake of that is just disappointing. Having her be evil for the sake of being evil is just bland.
@Zidders Roofurry Stop abusing medical terms to insult somebody.
0 likesI have a question, can a regular changling (not just the queen) use magic if they turn into an alicorn? And can they breathe fire as a dragon? What if a changling turns into a baby pony and stays that way for a pong time, would they grow into an adult pony or be an elderly changling??
0 likesShe is so pretty ☺️
0 likesI'm addicted to villian redemptions so i love this
0 likesI love these videos!
0 likesI honestly wish they would make another season and focus on the villains lol
2060 likesEdit: ok where did those 1674 likes come from..? Yeah, I'm liking my own comments cause why not-
I never had that many before 🥺thank you
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Me to cause season 8 let's wack in another villain season 9 lets turn that villain and tow older ones to stone
33 likesOmg ur pfp is Zen
8 likes@Midoriyasbby lol I know
3 likesThey have haven’t you read the comics girl
7 likes@Justin U killed me on blob.io im tyt crystal on blob.io 😁
2 likesYESSS
2 likesYour hope will lead you to despair
3 likes@𖤐MIZUKI𖤐 o hey tirek =P
2 likes"I care."
2 likes@Pau Lara it's ok 😂 and thank you!😊
2 likes@Rosalee Withrow lol I did?
1 likeZ e n
4 likesThey are going the season 10 but it will be only in comics
1 likeJustin .-. Me to
2 likesYah yep yap YAAASSS yes no for real they should
3 likesThey could of made so many seasons off starswirled and the princesses ... Read the comics!!
1 likeyEaH LoL
1 likeFocus on the villans past
2 likesActually, that's kinda already been done with the Fiendship is Magic comic arc. Now I can see why my friend Alice prefers villains to heroes, King Sombra’s backstory is incredible
1 likeAnd revealing, I thought he was turned evil by the Alicorn Amulet (after building it) for so long
Wow, you I st bombed the comment section, lol.
1 likeI think they are working on gen 5
1 likeMlp friendship is magic is gen 4
@Lucy Kremer
2 likesI guess it just shows to go how this show is basically a religion
fanfic time
2 likesYeahhh
1 like0:25
1 likeI do that to. XD
2 likesIn the comics season has begun. :)
0 likesWhat I think is that they should atleast put more happiness in life for them when they are villians
1 likeThey probably suffered through a lot to become like that
I feel so bad for them
HOnestly that would have been a nice way to finish the series. Or atleast explore why some of them were truly irredeemable. Its not black and white.
1 likeThis question is in my head as I watched this. Could it be possible to reform King Sombra?
0 likesChrysalis is so coool when she reform
1 likefinally chrysalis is now a good changeling because thats creepy she turns her head round
4 likesI rly hope the creators see this and actully make it happened
0 likesPharynx vs Chrysalis will make one heck of a battle. I still think that Chrysalis might reform because of Pharynx. That’s all I have to say.
102 likesWell, we need Hasbro to understand that the 4th generation was the best one and bring it back so they can continue with the storyline and cover topics that they missed
0 likeswell,we have to make an agreement with queen Chrysalis,as long as she agrees for example “Queen Chrysalis,if you reform then you’re colony is going to be infinitely stronger and you can get the love,especially from king Sombra, but drain from him and not from ponies “!;) :D
1 likeI love your idea! I think that chrysalis would be ruling with thorax
0 likesMaybe it can work like the "Beauty and the Beast" Transformation of Sombra in "Siege of the Crystal Empire".
0 likesI think you can’t learn a lesson without being exposed to the experience. So I think we should do what you said, but also encourage her to attack. Start giving them ideas by talking about reformed changlings and how they are trying to be like ponies, and try to get Chrysalis to attack them. Spy on her, and when she gets free, everything will be ready. They try to convince her friendship isn’t weakness, but if it doesn’t work discord will be waiting around the corner ready to turn her back to stone. Because you can tell chrysalis that changlings are strong, but she won’t believe it without seeing them in action.
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And make sure that the other 2 can watch the battle with chrysalis so then they can understand her instead of thinking she is weak.
23 likesCarolyn Signore what?
6 likesSunset Stars I have no idea what she meant
7 likesCarolyn Signore, Wdym?
4 likesI think Carolyn said she likes Cozy Glow and st**** Chrysalis
2 likesNo offense i think thats what she meant😐
Also
You're the one mean Carolyn
Look im also not trying to be mean but i just cant😔
Im a little bossy tho😒
@Carolyn Signore ok cool
0 likesMy thoughts exactly friend! I was actually about to compose a very similar suggestion
4 likesJust ignore that odd comment everyone, it's not important at all
2 likesLeave that to Discord. XD
0 likes"boop", over you
0 likesI prefer Discord not being ready to turn her back to stone if it doesn't work.
2 likesLike its basically having a gun secretly aimed behind her head and if she doesn't act like they want her to, BANG.
In fact Discord shouldn't be allowed anywhere near her since its HIS fault she(and the other 2) ended up freaking worse, his dumb plan got them to be worse.
@night shroud96 discord definitely should be around to turn her to stone if need be shes dangerous
0 likes@Fresh2000 ZCORD No, keep him the hell away from her.
0 likesHis dumb plan is what caused her to end up being worse. And the fact he could have easily find her at any time and help her but instead she was left out there going crazy and instead of giving her help while she was in that broken state, he freaking tried to use her as a disposable pawn.
He will just make things worse or cause some issues.
@night shroud96 they ended up worse because of there own actions they were already evil and would have taken over Equestria anyways as they have done it before, also discord showed remorse for his actions and put himself in danger to help save EQ. Your also forgetting his plan came from a good place of trying to help twilight be a good leader he is capable of being good hes just a spirit of chaos but he can learn
0 likes@Fresh2000 ZCORD His dumb plan caused them to be worse. Period.
0 likesIf he kept his damn claws off of them, they wouldn't go off the deep end further. Pointing them to a dangerous weapon, essentially threatening them around to make them work together(and them interacting causing their behavior to be influenced to be even worse), essentially encouraging them to be bad like that, his plan caused all of this. Even if this still their free-will, its Discord who caused them go off further for what his actions had done to them intentionally. Like intending on using them as threats to sic on Twilight to "boost" her confidence.
It doesn't freaking matter if he had good intentions, his plan caused serious issues and its still horrible.
His logic of thinking its ok to use anyone at all as pawns(villains or not) to send to their demises is something pre-reform Discord would do. Discord needs it hammered into his head that its never ok to use anyone as disposable pawn, PERIOD.
Discord freeing the other heroes is a start, but its not enough to make up for what his plan had done. There's alot of damage in there.
@night shroud96 saying discord caused them to become more evil is a massive amounts of headcanon that isn't true. Considering the things they have done on their own for power to dominate and enslave Equestria even before season 9, considering the bad alternate futures where chrysalis has everyone at war and tirek is destroying everything. Im not saying discord is a saint but he simply didn't think things through and wanted to help his friends. The trio ultimately choose by chrysalis own words that they refuse to change despite knowing how great friendship could be.
0 likesThis is pure genius sad that will never happen since the show ended but maybe they will create a movie about reforming
0 likesIf Tirek, Cozy Glow & Chrysalis were human at when they NEARLY became reformed: talking about positive stuff Chrysalis: ARGHH! Cozy Glow: Who am I kidding!? Power is better than friendship! Tirek: I will not stop until I get respect from Vorak!
0 likesI would die for reformed chrysalis SO PRETTY AHHH
0 likesHeres a thought. Discord was actually working with Celestia the entire time to prepare Twilght for her eventual ascension.
2 likes1. He never attacked Canterlot or Celestia when he first escaped.
2. When Twilight went grey, he actually looked a little worried to me. And somehow Celestia knew to send all those freindship lessons after he vanished.
3. He pretty much addmitted it in the final episodes that he staged alot of her toughest challenges to build her up.
Seems to me that he made a deal that as long as Twilight was challenged, he would be free to do whatever chaos was necessary.
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Though his plan in season 9 would damage her and Luna's reputations big.
1 likeReally.. Celestia having Twilight be her replacement is really at the expense of Luna there.
@night shroud96 The entire plan in season 9 revealed he had been behind everything from the moment of his release. Even though Celestia released him to just test Twilight, Discord being Discord, just took it chaotically beyond what was originally intended. The escalation of the original purpose until it blows up in everyone's faces would be well in scope of Discord's past behaviors.
0 likes@R F Doesn't make it ok though.
0 likesLuna really got screwed in all of this here.
@night shroud96 I think she was probably ready to retire after the Nightmare Moon fiasco and looking forward to being in charge of her own bedtime.
0 likes@R F That makes no freaking sense.
0 likesLuna worked her ass off to improve her image and reconnect with the ponies. It would be pointless if it turns out she wants to retire from the start and the fact she isn't going to rule for much long.
She clearly enjoyed her job and she clearly enjoyed ruling there.
@night shroud96 It was a diarchy. If Celestia chose her successor and stepped down, there was no reason Luna had to step down as well. Unless she wanted to do so.
0 likes@R F Unless Luna basically had no choice due to she would be separated from Celestia.
0 likesWhich is really bad too since it makes Celestia look pretty selfish since Luna is basically forced to give up her throne/crown/moon/destiny if she doesn't want to be separated from Celestia. Celestia really didn't take into account about Luna there.
There really could have been a compromise for Luna to continue ruling while still being with Celestia(who has retired). But nope, the writers brushed that aside for the sake of Twilight due to her being the "chosen one".
@night shroud96 I'm assuming she left voluntarily. Running a country is a very time consuming and stressful job. She probably could have lost interest after the episode of switching cutie marks with her sister and realizing that hanging out with nobility actually sucks. Most rulers are actually historically content with retirement because they actually don't have to be in charge of anything or anyone but themselves.
0 likes@R F That would be a awful sendoff to Luna's character though that she couldn't handle ruling as anywhere near as long as Celestia did.
0 likesLike I said, she didn't rule for much long and the fact if she thinks she is tired of ruling then it renders her attempt to fix her public image and reconnect to the ponies pointless.
Luna can't just suddenly feel like she lose interest in ruling like that.
@night shroud96 Which brings us back to the point of conspiracy theories like the Discord and Celestia partnership. Even though it is a cartoon, there are a lot of plotholes in mlp. The only advice that I can give is to think up an answer for yourself that both answers your question and makes her ending a happy one. Then spread it like crazy till all bronies consider it canon. Lol
0 likes"Perhaps I treated you too harshly..."
24 likes~ Magic of Friendship
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quote from Thanos
2 likesOioioi- can we just- take a moment and talk bout how pretty Chrysalis is when she is reformed in this video-? Like- DAMN
0 likesYep she is so amazing ,cool , awesome and so pretty you are a good animator
0 likesGreat idea!
0 likesimagination
0 likesSome say imagination has another name
Self love
The belief in one's self
That power can be stronger than any magic
5:11 This design doesn't fit her then.
1 likeSince she looks too soft and coddly, unlike Pharynx who looks more intimidating.
Her new design should look more closely to Pharynx
I like that you're going in depth with this - and I'm hoping you could answer question of mine! (It's fine if you don't and if you've already got a video pertinent could you please refer me to it?)
0 likesDo you find it at all disturbing how Human Flash and Pony Twilight substitute each other for the counter part of each?
Pony Twilight gets a crush on Pony Flash at first meeting him because of her feelings for Human Flash. Isn't that just emotional displacement?
Pony Flash and Human Flash are two different people and substituting one for the other is like falling in love with one twin only to go to the second when the first disappears just because they're similar.
Human Flash never saw Pony Twilight as a princess, just as a girl that he liked. Pony Flash was very aware of her being a princess and that certainly affects how he sees her and interacts with her. So the very basis of their personalities and views are wildly different.
Likewise Pony Twilight is different from Human Twilight. Just because they are counterparts do not make them clones.
The fact that both are shown to be transferring at least some affection to the counterpart seems unhealthy to promote in a show.
What do you think?
PS: I haven't seen much of the show, so my view might be a bit behind if I've missed a huge development, but I'd like your opinion.
PPS: I do get that they're different species, but I think a person is defined by their personalities more than any perception of "race". Relationships on the show seem to not care as much as us real-world people, and with magic it would be solvable. I understand that there are barriers, but a good relationship is worth working and sacrificing for... so why does the show have them both seem to give it up without almost any fight?
She look's soo beautiful~♥~~♥~
0 likeslove your channel!!!!!
0 likesA good theory, but keep in mind that technically, Starlight and her troupe put up a similar fight with friendship as well. Sure, it was more covert, but they still used their friendship to take the, quote unquote, "fierceness" away from the changelings. While technically not the best reason to hold a grudge against "friendship," the simple fact that friendship was the first thing that took away the thing that Chrysalis was proud of, definitely complicates matters slightly more than in the video.
29 likesAnother thing to note is that while yes, pony colonialism and friendship are not technically connected, the fact that the element bearers, Pillars, and the two people who freakin' raise the sun and moon all have used the magic of friendship in the past certainly pins more of a connection between the two than might be expected.
While the strategy of the video could work, I have a feeling that Chrysalis wouldn't be too phased unless Pharynx AND Thorax personally convinced her otherwise. Why? Because, Thorax is the example of "not afraid to defend, even though friendship is his whole shtick now." Seeing Thorax also stick up for himself as opposed to on the sidelines, like in the finale, wouldn't hurt in the slightest.
Also...Chrysalis wouldn't be as easy as you think. In fact, counting the comics as canon, she's come back, on at least three different occasions to try and take revenge. Sure, we have Discord, but if he goes down... I'd be afraid of what happens next. Very afraid. Especially since he'd also be in charge of keeping the other two villains in check, including the one that stole his magic...
You know what I'd like to know? Who provided Chrysalis with love while she was gone?
0 likesI wanted to see her reform soooo bad
0 likesI always wanted to see Queen Chrysalis reform
0 likes5:02 SHE LOOKS SO BEAUTIFUL😍!
0 likesReformed Chrysalis looks so beautiful.
15 likesChrysalis was my favorite villain, and i really do feel bad for her, i really wanted her to have a redemption ark.
0 likesChrysalis is cloaked in "Care and Compassion" for her hive but the MOMENT throax turned and didnt need to rip love out for hungry, Chrysalis lost it and doubled down. Chrysalis wants to be in Control no matter what and given a chance to change her malice burnt up the cloak to show her hostile nature. You got a better chance with Tirek over Chrysalis who malice would need pure extermination before even attempts would break through her shell.
0 likesQueen Chrysalis look very beautiful when reform
0 likesI approve of Chrysalis turning good. Excellent job on the analysis for this video.
2 likes"Realistically", you say, talking about a cartoon of magical talking horses
379 likesGreat video btw :D
The way to reform chrysalis is to bring pharynx thorax brother
0 likesHe used to think that friendship was all about cuteness and hugs but the hive proved him wrong and showed him that friendship is not only about hugs they showed that friend's help each other and without a friend life is more harder and he could show chrysalis and she could rule the hive again
Problem reforming Discord failed spectacularly, the reason the mean 3 became so powerful was because Discord made them work together.
1 likeReformed Chrysalis's reformed version is really pretty honestly
0 likesReformed Chrysilas is absolutely gorgeous.
0 likesThere is one problem Chrysalis can still steal love maybe even from the new Hive and Tirek can still take magic from ponies and other creatures so they can do that
0 likesYou should be the prime reformer prince of equestria!
1 likeSawtooth im a pony fan and have been for the past 10 years! I KNOW a possible season 10- maybe more seasons! I would LOVE that and so would others (im not 100% sure if this would be good or bad but it dosnt have to be all good or all bad right?) also I REALLY hope Lauren Faust brings back MLP!
0 likesI think you're focusing too much on Chrysalis's thoughts on the changelings and trying too hard to make her character match Pharynx. It's true that Pharynx is similar to Chrysalis in cold demeanor, but Pharynx always cared about the hive and its strength, while Chrysalis had six solid appearances of being a tyrannical, selfish lunatic who treats her followers like extensions of her will and boasts no defensible evidence that she ever, at any point, gave a single f*ck about the changelings or their culture past their use to her as tools. About the only time she ever expressed remote 'concern' was when she first said to Celestia, 'it is my job to find food for my subjects', in Canterlot Wedding. Unfortunately, this is dubious evidence at best, because 'finding the changelings food' is synonymous with 'I get to remain in power'. In retrospect from the S6 finale and beyond, it's obvious that her focus was on herself when she said this, not on the changelings.
2 likesUnlike a lot of the other villains on this show, I'd classify her behavior as the best example of being truly psychotic. When she lost her power she grew deranged and mad, creating stumps to bark her frustrations and orders at, instead. When she was in charge, she seemingly never even tried to find the changelings a better way of life than to eternally feel starved, since, according to Thorax, changelings were always hungry. Instead, I believe Chrysalis opted to use that eternal hunger as a carrot on the metaphorical stick, keeping the changelings desperate and ready to conquer nations for her. Starlight directly challenged this hunger conundrum by telling Chrysalis that there was a better way, and Chrysalis's only response was that it was her decision how to treat the changelings, not Starlight's.
She denounced the mere concept of friendship twice not because she didn't like how weak the changelings became, but because the very idea of friendship and unity undermines her insecure need for power and control on a level that goes far beyond what any other villain had.
You talked about how Fluttershy made Discord choose between tyranny and friendship. Discord wanted attention more than actually being a tyrant in charge of everyone, so he opted for friendship because he could get attention through friendship. This is supported by the fact that he never forced ponies to directly obey him, even when chaos was swept along the land, pranking some while deharmonzing others. As long as the world was chaos he didn't really care one way or the other about what happened to the inhabitants or what they did. Chrysalis doesn't want attention, she just wants to be in control. There's no argument from canonical evidence alone that suggests she would ever want anything else, which means she will always, ultimately choose tyranny.
That aside, assuming redemption is possible, the only way she could be redeemed in a way that didn't feel shoehorned is if she redeemed over the course of an entire show, like Regina, aka the Evil Queen did on Once Upon a Time. Regina started off as a malicious b*tch, and it took her numerous seasons to go from vile villain to anti-hero. She never became a rule-following good guy, in fact, she never really became that pleasant, but she got to a point of being able to co-exist with the good guys and that was enough. I think that's the very best you could ever hope for from Chrysalis.
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u described it perfectly
0 likesits like youtube can read my mind about MLP characters. (i always wanted to know what would be a best accurate character of Reformed Chrysalis)
0 likesI have a theory:
1 likeIf Celestia can turn into Daybreaker and Luna can turn into Nightmare moon, then MAYBE Chrysalis was the lost Crystal Princess before she became a changeling.
My theory is that maybe something happend between Chrysalis and Sombra leading to a war between them both and after a while she found out that Sombra became corrupt because of their argument.
Falling into deep regret then she lost her sanity and became a changeling just like how Luna became Nightmare moon, she knew she needed help to turn back but she didnt know how.
She returned to her kingdom and nobody can recognize her because of the holes on her body, everypony feared her they would run away everytime she would step into the kingdom,
Because of fear she lost every ounce of love inside her and it drew her mad and sad, she wanted that love that she had before and she wanted everypony to care for her again.
She decided to seek for revenge after to find out she was replaced by cadence and it drew her even more mad, she couldn't defeat the new Princess without the love, because of the love of the Crystal ponies it made her strong and powerfull but without it she is weak.
She needed to find a way to help herself, so she decided to turn her backs on the kingdom she onced love and take everything back especially the love she needed.
Or maybe she was Princess Amore ( The first ruler of The Crystal Empire) and she also had a big past with Sombra
I would absolutely love to see Chrysalis story we knew nothing about her?!
Awesome idea:)
0 likesWait a sec- in the statue, cosy glow is FLYING. Is she attached to anything? Or is she breaking the laws of physics
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I thought her tail or leg touches Tirek
1 like@Mo Ss but she would still fall?
0 likes@Soft Wax on one hand yes, on the other i've seen some weird yet firmly standing sculptures before... Probably depends on what kind of stone they're made of
0 likesit'll be so incredible queen chrysails would become good.
0 likesAight can we just talk about how PRETTY reformed Chrysalis is?
0 likesShe's beautiful
1 likeThat would be so beautyful :)
0 likesReforming chrysalis would be easy just makes fluffle puff a canon character lol🥰
1 likei think reforming Chrysalis might be a little more complicated than that, but also i think it could work.
0 likesi think more like this doesn't change her mind by one day to another, but this could be a start.
Chrysalis is Beautiful when she is on her new form
0 likesA reformed chrysalis would be hella awesome but gotta remember that if u look at life thro her eyes, she’s wasn’t entirely evil, just looking for places that could help feed herself and the hive like any other creature. That thing they feed on just happens to be the love ponies share with one another so it makes her look evil
0 likesUgh I still have so many questions of the "monster" the Young Six defeated, and something happened to the CMC, and Cozy Glow's parents.
126 likesAlthough I might have an answer to Cozy Glow's parents. I mean why is she in a Friendship school unlike a normal school like Ms. Cheerlie's classes. I'm guessing that she was abandoned by her parents and just sent her to this school because of her manipulative behavior.
This explains why her parents weren't alerted for her evil actions.
I dunno. Just a guess
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What if cozy is cosmos' child? We all know that cosmos is impossible to reform, it's like trying to reform freeza.
5 likesAnd on how are Luna and Celestia doing after the timeskip and such.
2 likes@night shroud96 it might be that alicorns lose their immortality when they get replaced.
0 likesthere called, "the student six"
0 likes@Some Guy that uses the internet Well that bothers me so much.
2 likesLuna never got to experience life as much as Celestia did and her losing her immortality makes the dumb retirement stuff worse.
Luna didn't get to rule anywhere near as long as Celestia did nor did she enjoyed her destiny much as she did, her having to give up her immortality too just makes this even more worse.
Pharynx, the key to reforming Queen Chysalis, also the handsome one.
0 likesI often wondered if there was a powerful secret villain who was behind all the other villains, someone unseen, working behind the scenes and in the shadow, perhaps one that somehow tied in with previous MLP generations, A major enemy we never knew was even there, perhaps trapped in another dimension and could only manipulate others from there rather than being able to physically get involved...? (I was going to write a story idea on this for a possible film, featuring a villain called Mara Queen of Nightmares, who was once an ordinary Pony who was corrupted by an experimental And potent dark magic spell which turned her into the evilest creature ever in the Pony world, Mara then nearly destroyed what would eventually become Equestria but was defeated and banished by the first and most powerful queen of the Pony world... Majesty, who became the very first Alicorn, their battle seemingly cost her life (although Mara had as the last bit of spite she could muster turned her to stone).... many aeons later, using all the dark power she'd fostered & collected since the recreation of the Pony world (know as now Equestria) she finally escapes to wreak havoc upon everyone and take over, not even the Mane-Six, the princesses or even Discord are strong enough to stop her, their only hope is for Twilight to use her magic of friendship to revive Mara's old enemy...)
0 likes"Pony Colonialism" is not a phrase I though I would hear.
1 likeThe small pony is prob the easiest to reform or not depending
1 likebecause children- it’s a child- can’t be too hard right?
Fun Fact:
214 likesDiscord asked the royal sisters to turn him into stone by his own wish.
It is mentioned in the mlp comic about cosmos.
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The comics are non-canon though
15 likesWhen?
7 likesI only recall they turn him to stone with in that "retcon" 'that blasted arc did with it turns out Cosmos caused that horrible mess and Discord erased their memories and made it look like he did it.
@night shroud96 So,good old Discord taking the blame for something that he did NOT really do? And erasing everybody's memories so that none could prove the contrary/contest that as well? That really does NOT sound like something,that the old "Discord The God Of Chaos" would do to me. That's pretty crazy...... 🤔
8 likes@Mr. Chaos Vicious Tell that to that blasted arc since it did happen.
2 likesReally messes up Luna and Celestia's achievement there.
@DarkWebs11 level 2 cannon
2 likesYEP
0 likes@night shroud96
0 likesYah
@night shroud96.
0 likesIs the comic Hasbro/MLP official ?
0 likesIt aint canon, sorry.
3 likes@Varice Peyes official, but only some of the comic canon to the tv series, most of them not.
2 likes@Andy Santian Oh Ok, Thanks
0 likesThe comics are no canon??
2 likes@Mr. Chaos Vicious He was never evil
0 likes@Andy Santian Which comics are canon actually?
0 likes@night shroud96 i havent read all of the comic and didnt read them in order, so i didnt remember wich of them are soft canon or non canon. the comic that i know canon are the season 10 comics.
0 likesChrysalis should rule alongside Thorax as mother and son 👑👑
1 likeLove it
0 likesI always wondered where Cozy Glows parents were!
0 likesI don't want chrysalis to be reformed, I want her to fly off and just be a minor threat like a bogeyman that strikes rarely and slowly trying to find a new give (hence why she strikes rarely because she wants to get a new hive to try to rule) I know if she gets reformed she's gonna loose alot of what I love about her
1 likeThen again I am also the guy who sides with the sith in star wars but this isn't about that but that's just my opinion
You forget that Chrysalis is after Starlight, to get revenge over her for what happened with Thorax and her hive is one thing, but Starlight is still another issue she would have to overcome. And considering how far she is into it, not sure you can truly reform Chrysalis in the end.
70 likesBottom line is that for the series there needed to be concrete villains who never changed their hearts. They can only be reformed in fanfiction and otherwise the story goes on forever and now that it's officially over there is no going back.
0 likesTwilight and Celestia would also never release them because they have proven themselves to be true villains and unchangeable.
Out of all 3 Cozy Glow would probably be the easiest to reform, however she is a good liar and she could easily fake reforming and is an opportunist.
Tirek might be the second hardest, he is addicted to power and also does not want to give it up.
And twice Crysalis indeed almost opened up but rejected those alternative feelings.
But again the real reason why they won't ever change is because there needs to be an example that even despite the offers and opportunity of true love and friendship there are simply someponies who won't ever accept it and you can't make them. And you can't force friendship.
I LOVE REFORMING Chrysalis
0 likesI would love a reformed Chrysalis
0 likesI BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE CHANCE TO CHANGE!! THEY ONLY NEED A LITTLE PUSH
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FINALLY Someone said it!
0 likesYou i can 100% say that have to hate in your life and you see the good things in others!
To be honest Chrysalis has a great villain song, it’s no Hellfire but still it’s great
15 likesThis is a really good point and well thought through but my question is where is the statue now in the new generation and where’s discord perhaps after all the mane six had long been gone he lost touch with the pony’s I think that if he was still around he would point the pony’s to friendship like fluttershy did for him but maybe when magic went out he couldn’t get to aquestria but discord doesn’t seem to have the same magic as the pony’s so maybe his magic didn’t go out and he took the statue to his realm but with all that’s going on with all the CHAOS wouldn’t u think the spirit of chaos had something to do with it perhaps without fluttershy and the mane six around he fell back into evil?
0 likesShe looks beautiful 4:58
1 likeLove it
0 likesI’m just gonna let cozy glow be cozy glow, she is cre cre!
1 like"pharanyx is the key to reforming chrysalis"
365 likesmy lizard brain: ....great, now i ship them
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I know right?!? But isn't all the changlings chrysalis's sons
42 likesYou cant ship him with his mother!!! lol
40 likes@Mjae Gacha yes, she has many children
18 likesThank you. Now I know you agree
6 likesPeople in this comment chain are dumb.
15 likesThe changelings are obviously based on bugs/insects.... Let me ask you, is there any king chrysalis?
No?
Then who do you think she’s having kids with?
@Mayday Baeday that's so true... But who is chrysalises Mother residences mother lots of children why chrysalis???
8 likesSameee
0 likesMrs Abbas I can’t understand your comment beyond "who is Chrysalis’ mother" and basically, in many insect colony species (bees, ants, etc) a queen is born from a previous queen (duh) and then leaves that home and quite literally births her own colony. So where is Chrysalis’ mother? Logically, either dead or somewhere off in another land feeding on love.
12 likes@Mayday Baeday Also,this is a show they made for kids so why would they need to include a King
5 likesDON'T GET ME WRONG,adults watch this too! I'm just saying that is what they made it for
Same...
0 likesBut-
4 likes.......Chrysalis is Pharanyx’s mother
INCEST! Or should I say.... INSECT! (Im not funny)
Bruh I-
3 likesThey’re mother and son-
I think
@illicxt OH NO!!!
0 likesWhy do all my most creative ships end like this?
@Mayday Baeday its confirmed that they are her children she even said in the comics that they are her children,....
5 likes@CaptainOpvious nowhere did I say they are not her children. You'd be better off finding someone talking about the fact that in the new changeling colony, changelings seem to have 'parents' that are not Queen Chrysalis.
0 likes@Mayday Baeday Parents or guardians? The infos are to scarce anyways
2 likesi saw the quotes chill
@CaptainOpvious Ocellus called them her parents, sooo
0 likes@Mayday Baeday sooo what? An adopted child will call his adoptive parents ''parents'' or maybe after the metamorphosis changelings are dependent. Still all are her children. ;)
3 likes@CaptainOpvious dude I’m not disagreeing I’m just saying there are other people that are saying that, and you’d be better off responding to those.
0 likes@Mayday Baeday Yeah m8 no hard feelings.
1 likeSame
0 likes@Mayday Baeday Thanks to certain Headcannons, her mother would be Queen Arachne. In other words, her mother is a spider changeling...
2 likesWell hecc you got it stuck in my noggin now
0 likes"Pharalis" anyone?
0 likes@Mayday Baeday of of of
0 likes@Mayday Baeday of of of of
0 likesThe changelings were born from a tree wrapping its roots around a bone. In the comics, Starswirls found the tree and saw the wrapped bone, so he nailed a warning sign on the tree for dark magic. Over time, the hole that the nail was in grew larger, and eventually gave birth to Chrysalis.... and maybe the changelings, idk.
2 likesI've always bin confused on how queen bugs like ants and bees lay eggs without mating properly, but its a bugs life (not sorry). But when they introduced Pharynx as Thorax's older brother, I got confused. Aren't all of the changelings are siblings. Sure, some even mated with each other but still, didn't they acknowledge their birth?
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0 likesEww! Sweet home Alabama!🤢👻
1 likeHi, I have a idea to make a fanfiction using your 3 villain reforming videos as a planned out summary my character thought of. The story will be about Drananja (my mlp character) discussing the idea with Twilight and equestria's other leaders, Dragon Lord Ember, Prince Rutherford, Queen Novo, King Thorax, Princess Cadence and Shining Armor, Grandpa gruff, and the leader of the Kirin, alongside equestria's other important figures Twilight's friends, Starlight Glimmer, Sunburst, Starswirl and the pillars (and Stigyan), Discord, Spike, and the two characters we'll need to reform them Pharynx and Diamond Tiara (please correct me if I missed a character). I need your approval before I can go even further with this fanfiction, so can I use these videos as an inspiration for my FanFiction (don't worry I'll credit you and the videos at the beginning and the end of the fanfiction)?
0 likesI think that Tirek and Cozy glow don’t need to be apart for this, but Chrysalis certainly does.
0 likesChrysalis would be a valuable addition to. changelings I think.
0 likesYou know there’s proof that that’s not a chrysalis really looks like potential into the background and you’ll see a picture of her just being with glasses and really nice and cute
0 likesI really like this theory it seams pretty plausible. I think Chrysalis would find herself happy in the role of royal advisor and the link to the past, cultivating traditions and preserving culture of changelings with a small alteration that would fit the reformed hive. I mean it's in the name, Chrysalis is the middle stage of transformation, a link between past and future!
15 likesThat KSP music at 4:40 suggests that if Chrysalis can't find where she belongs through friendship, she can always take the hive, start a space program, and achieve what no Equinoid has done before...
1 like[OVER G!!!] [OVER G!!!] [OVER G!!!]
"I THOUGHT I SAID TO INSTALL THE THRUST LIMITER ON THE BOOSTER!!! THIS IS NOT A THRUST-LIMITED BOOSTER!!!"
I want to ask if chrysalis was actually a alicorn before
1 likei would love to see c hrysalis reformed. she has potential plu8s that reformed look in the video looks pretty and that would be interesting if that would be her canon reformed look.
0 likesI like this theory so much that it’s now canon in my head.
0 likesImma leave this to pony magic real quick-
1 likei think when cozy glow was with Tirek and Chrysalis and Chrysalis start spitting about friendship, i think there's a specific idealogy between Friendship, and "Pony friendship" going on in her head. She definitely correlates ponies with friendship, but i dont think she hates friendship as a whole, since she felt an almost friendship and/or motherly responsibility for taking care of her hive.
0 likesshe looks so Beautiful
0 likesI would love this to happen
0 likesNgl, Good Queen Chrysalis is absolutely stunning like the damn crystal she is!
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That's one of the reasons, why i love fanfics.
0 likesI've always wanted chrysalis to be reformed out of all the villains. She seamed to have the most potential.
0 likesYes I love this chrysalis is my most favorite character and I actually kind of thought about the change of the changelings the same way but it made me look at it differently
1 likeI would love to see a reformed Chrysalis. She’s a strong Queen and loves her tribe dearly. I’m sure she misses them.
0 likesI was actually thinking that Pharynx might also be important in this too. Although I was mainly thinking about it when you mentioned that supposed group of unreformed changelings that want to bring their queen back, and what she might think when she learns of a changeling that did prefer how they were before but still preferred to stay with the hive instead of going after her and joining her.
18 likesShe needs to reform she’s so pretty and will be a good helper and proctor
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0 likeshow do u come up with these??? ITS BRILLIANT
0 likesSawtooth... remember this:
0 likesThe changelings choose to leave the hive so How would Crysallis agree to be reformed then when they abandoned her
I think out of all of them, Tirek was the one who got the closest, mostly because at the time, he could have just left Cozy trapped in the cave, and left Chrysalis drained and unable to stop him and made out like gangbusters.
40 likesCozy’s the hardest, because of what she learned about friendship, she could very well fake being reformed, but still be evil.
And honestly, I do think chrysalis could definitely be redeemed like you said. She’s kind of in the middle in terms of difficulty, because she is most definitely on edge about that, and would probably be actively against it. I think another thing that could help her would be not seeing it AS “the hated friendship” she’s so against. She might even have several moments when she ends up hiding away alone trying to re-establish that she’s right and the others are wrong... but as you mentioned, she might not be alone there, shed have Discord watching over her and giving her things to think about. In the end, I can definitely see her coming back to her hive, and being a much happier queen.
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Or when Tirek caught a bird with his hands after it fell out of a tree
4 likes@Marc Suraci I forgot about that... thanks...
0 likes@Martin Gray Maybe he was planning to eat the bird.
2 likesIf they didn't end the series we could've seen them possibly being reformed
0 likesAww she looks so pretty
0 likesI think Chrysalis had a lot more left of her that would have led to her being reformed. I feel like those stories weren’t ended.
0 likes“Today I’m tackling chrysalis” I laughed my head off bruh
0 likesAnd plus she does not want her hive to starve to death just like her loving mother would do. A mother would work hard for her child so that there childrens future will be succesful
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If she truly loved her hive, she would have let them transform when she found out it meant they would never be hungry again. She loved CONTROLLING her hive; she didn't actually love her hive.
15 likes@Kitty25 She probably thought that friendship was bad.
8 likes@Kitty25 Control is often mistaken for love. Some control as parents is needed (dont run in the road). What she did was not be a mom but a totalitarian leader- you want food, attack
2 likesIf she loved her Hive THAT much, she would of embrace the change but at that moment, she realized she would no longer Utterly Control her hive with a Iron Fist. She rather of lose it all instead of losing control and letting her hive embrace no hungry.
0 likesI really wanted Chrysalis to reform
0 likesI kinda agree with Crysalis. Yeah sure the Changlings did lose their hunger yet also their culture and somewhat power. Before the Changlings were reformed they were hostile yet as well smart beings trying to provide food for themselves (in this case love). They definitely knew how to fight and if the ponies would have had accepted the Changlings then they would look a lot different. Now most of the Changlings ahve become less aggressive and almost weak. Yeah sure with the hunger gone it’s quite good yet it feels like the reformed Changlings have almost lost a part of themselves, like taking away their hunger was ironically enough taking away their power in a way. Don’t get me wrong, some reformed Changlings are still aggressive as before yet that’s barely anything compared to the rest of the hive. Forax feels a bit like a weak leader compared to the mighty Queen Chrysalis who was able to keep the hive mind (mostly) feed and still somewhat thriving, now their weak being who have left behind their culture and their power. I’m sure that the Changlings could have been reformed in a better way, one way or another
1 likeI think the video makes a lot of good points. My one beef is that I don't think the Changelings really HAD a culture before Thorax took charge. They were essentially predatory parasites who went around attacking other creatures to steal their love, at least so far as we saw. They had a community of sorts, but it existed by preying on other creatures and didn't seek to make itself sustainable or to make positive contributions to the world. Even Pharynx's guard patrol was more a matter of practicality than an actual cultural aspect.
0 likesI don't think Heart's Warming Eve that Changelings celebrated was merely an imitation, it was certainly introduced by Equestria but Changelings have their own interpretation of the celebration. Family came together and it's could also mean as a celebration for Equestria-Changelings strong relation. It's what always happened in our world, most of celebration was brought to another country from another influential country sometimes through the trade. Besides, people often forget that, Thorax never wanted to be a King, he was choose because he stood up for his belief in front of Chrysalis and save his friends. Especially after Chrysalis reject the reformed Changelings or as the fandom wiki site called it's, the Metamorphosis Changelings and their new standpoint on life. He also live for a long time in Crystal Empire, so the influence of the Pony couldn't be help. Remember, Chrysalis called Thorax as traitor, so I think what happened to him was he tried to tell Chrysalis that there's a better way than go to war with their neighbours and make enemies but Chrysalis reject him and called him as a traitor for following what she believes the Pony way of life and banished him from the hive as she mentioned that she didn't even want to hear his name in her hive. (Even Chancellor Neighsay believed that friendship was a pony way of life and culture). You could see this even in our world like how Japanese culture was heavily influenced by Tang China and how Buddhist took a root in Japanese culture despite most local Japanese opposed it at first. Now the culture brought from Tang China have completely integrated into Japanese culture and have developed independently. Even England go through this when they came under Norman and Viking ruler, the impact on English and it's culture could still be seen. The closest example was Philippines, originally Catholic was imposed by forced on the local population by the Spanish but eventually Christianity took root and become a weapon that was eventually used to fought and repelled against the Spanish rules.
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Besides, Chrysalis was effectively a dictator that enforced her view and beliefs on her citizens and refused to even listened to any adviced or their problems. She believes she's always right. It's like how our parent forced us their view and planned our life like marriage life. Based on how easily Changelings change their views and standpoint simply by hearing Starlight logic and speech and Thorax determination to save his friends, it seems they just mindlessly followed Chrysalis but not to fond of life under her rules.
1 likeYou should do Sombra, as well as the other three.
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Problem: he's not a changeling.
2 likes@☆𝓜𝓪𝓻𝓪𝓵𝔂𝓷☆ So is Discord, yet he became good. For the most parts.
8 likesSombra is dead.
2 likesSombra's dead.
1 likeThis is wonderful! Lol
0 likesFirst i would cast a spell so she doesnt shoot spells or a shield ao she doesnt cast spells on th hive or something to protect the hive or pharanx so she doesnt attack.
0 likesWe have seen how powerful ahe is. I just want to support sawtooth.
I mean Chrysalis and Cozy Glow are the most easy to reform.
0 likesThe Hardest ones to reform would be have been King Sombra & Lord Tirek
And is clear the only way is to make them reform one at the time: They need to reform Cozy Glow first because she would be the only pony the others will be willing to listening to.
Note to self: Figure out how to convince that bronies that morality exists independently of friendship.
0 likesBelieve me, I would love to see the characters of be morally correct,
without the surrender to christ- I mean "Friendship".
What if Chrysalis became a badass loner, doing good things for the Hive,
WITHOUT rejoining it, wouldn't that be cool?
A large part of the problems I have with the series,
Is this notion that the "Magic of Friendship" is a literal, Physical thing,
IN ADDITION to being "Moral concept"
It's boring to see "morals" Approached in such a empty, meaningless way.
You're not the only one who thought of reforming all three villains. I've actually started writing it, but may I take some of your ideas with this?
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I also read a fanfiction about it. I can't remember the title. It was unfinished. Flurry Heart released Cozy and tried to reform her, but she escaped with a plan to free the other two and try to take over Equestria again. She got help from Lil Cheese and Big Mac's kid, because she lied to them. Needless to say, she started liking them along the way...
10 likesEdit: It's Cracked open, written by Ghuntz, and it is complete now
@Polina Borodikhina It's on fimfiction, you can find it, if you search for this title: Cracked open. The first one with a picture of the villains as statues will be it.
1 likeThe fanfic I started writing isn't nearly finished. But maybe people will find it enjoyable when it is. 🙂
2 likesImagine some of the main sixes children playing with Flurryheart ( Or maybe even start dating Flurryheart ) . I'm so weird lol
1 likeIt's all rhetorical anyway. The show ended so we won't see it officially happen. Maybe if they're brought back in G5?
7 likesI would love being chrysalis to be good >w<
4 likesI wondered what happened to the changelings after the magic contastrophe, where the magic when into the crystals that twilight made?
0 likesNow that you explained the plan I am convinced
0 likesI honestly believe Starlight Glimmer is the only one who can reform Crysilis. Crysilis just needs to spend time with Starlight and perhaps learn about her story.
0 likesyour reformed chrysalis looks realy pretty
0 likesCozy glow is my favorite but I didn't know that she became evil
0 likesIs that her actual reformation 🤩
0 likes"all the royal sisters did was destroy the cupcake"
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5 likesThat's just savage
11 likesIt is actually really clever.
20 likesCelestia & Luna never had the ability to "turn ponies into stone" (that was just a side effect from the Elements of Harmony interacting with a "Spirit").
Discord was in NO POSITION to sugest any punishment (given that he was the responsible for liberating & forcing them to work together against "The ponies of Equestria" ); so he discretely sugested to the sisters:
"I would turn them into stone, but you will have to "cover" me. Shoot at the cake!"
@Argamis (SilverComet) I feel like the sisters were too furious to realize its wrong to let Discord decide the trio's fates like that.
10 likesI mean, on their very last days as rulers they ended up looking like failures again(no, distracting the trio doesn't fix that) and the fact salt is added to the wound about losing their connection to the Elements due to not being included in the final rainbow laser(despite they used the Elements before and their cutie marks were on the tree). Luna has it worse due to her track record looks worse compared to Celestia's due to losing a 1000 years. Those 2 were absolutely furious inside that their emotions blinded them pretty much.
Timestamp for that 1:08
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2 likesJust give chrysalis Fluffle Puff and she’ll be good
1 likeStarlight already tried too help her when she got defeated by the thorax
1 likeYou've missed one vital component of reforming those three. They have to want to be reformed. The best example of what I'm getting at is an addict. You can't force an addict to give up their addiction. If you do they will just go back to it when you're no longer on the scene. They have to hit their rock bottom and realize they not only just need to change their ways but want to change their ways. With those three if you don't convince them that they do in fact want to change they never will.
0 likesI'm not even going to touch your Sombra video on how he lost his wings. It's pure conjecture he ever had wings in the first place. Sombra ever having wings is a "what if" fanfiction story more than anything else. I'm not saying that you're wrong to speculate on it but I'm not going to touch that with a 10 foot pole.
Dear goodness, i am praying this happened after the series ended.
0 likesI would love to see a My Little Pony movie special showing Chrysalis reforming, becoming friends with Starlight, becoming beautiful. That would be awesome. Also Chrysalis was one of my favorite characters.
8 likesI think that the hive should have changed again- there colors should be similar to before and like the dragons keep there culture so they still transform still fight and all they
0 likesi think star swirl can help, he is skilled at magic, and who says he cant cancel magic when those villains wanna use it lol
0 likesThorax did reform the Changeling’s because he took there evil away and took advise from the ponies and use it as an example for the changeling’s he is not coping them
1 likeI would offer Queen Chrysalis, Tirek, Cozy Glow, even King Sombra a chance at redemption. Like Optimus Prime I too believe that “Freedom is the Right of All Sentient beings”. But no one can teach the villains the true meaning of friendship it’s a lesson they must learn themselves. Like how the Changelings, Discord, Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, Dragons, the Flim Flam Brothers, Nightmare Moon, Tempest Shadow, Gilda, Snips, Snails, Starlight Glimmer, Sunset Shimmer, & Trixie changed their ways. They must learn to be selfless, compassionate, sympathetic, understanding, optimistic, kind, & friendly.
0 likesThe reformed design for Chrysalis is so pretty. Who ever designed it did an amazing job!💖
12 likesDiscord was basically forced into friendship, although he did have a chance to choose he was basically forced because he didn’t wanna loose something he wouldn’t ever get back. This probably could go the same for cozy, trainwreck and chrysalis.
0 likesAs in for Chrysalis, she’d probably be the easiest to reform.
When she didn’t accept starlight’s [forgot the word]
It looked pretty clear that she didn’t wanna leave the hive. In this situation, she’d have to choose to being alone or being along with the hive. Basically how discord got reformed, So it’d be pretty easy to reforming her to do just that.
Would take a while tho, you can’t just get a villain like her to sit tight and let others teach her about friendship and not get the chance to destroy the hive while she could.
Cozy glow, hmmm she’d probably be the 2nd easiest. She isn’t interested in friendship at all, so there could be problems with reforming her. Obviously, if we’d force her and make her choose then she’d not even stand a chance into friendship. In another way, she’d basically have to make a friend and understand the concept of friendship first. Flurry heart would be a good example, but i think she’d be a bit too busy to be a huge best friend with her, Diamond Tiara could maybe help her out. With silver spoon, her, diamond tiara and silver spoon could honestly become a squad like the cmc’s! Now, this is something Cozy Glow would actually accept and be interested in, Yes yes I get she is a villain but honestly this could be a absolute yes with no doubt for her! Maybe we actually WOULD have to force her, but not that much because she could see the perks with friendship already since she has witnessed it a little with the cmc’s.
Their squad name could be Gold Glow!
Fits a lot because in the middle of diamond and silver, probably would be guaranteed gold. And “Glow” as in “Cozy Glow” really gives a nice touch to it! The purpose of the squad could probably be kindness!
Diamond Tiara = Generosity [Like Rarity]
Silver Spoon = Tough one..they could represent some of the elements in the mane 6, but that’d kinda be copying but some of their purposes REALLY fits with them..So Silver Spoon would probably be awareness [I don’t know the word for it, probably is loyalty, yet she’d seem like the type of pony to look out for her friends and always be there for them.]
Cozy Glow = Basically kindness, not all the perks with it since she shouldn’t be too overpowered with it, but in this squad she’d basically be the main character so she’d maybe be like twilight. [Exclude the Alicorn part, no way she can become one in that matter of time.]
Tirek, oh no no no I’m skipping him
Something that bugs me about changelings and their design is their black sleek design was a part of them, instead of changing their appearance I wish they had done something else.
0 likesTo Whoever edits these videos; I respect your work soo much!
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thank you so much <333
0 likesI think Chrysalis is definitely the most likely of the three villains to receive reformation; While like Tirek and Cozy, she did advance her plots through manipulation, Chrysalis definitely had loyal followers and she was looking out for the needs of her people; even if the way she went about it wasn't ethical. The fact that when she was at her lowest point, she carried around the log from Mean Twilight shows that she was starting to become desperate; keeping close what is implied to be the remains of Mean Twilight, even after she betrayed Chrysalis to take the Elements of Harmony for herself and the other Mean 6 clones (only for the Tree to smite them all), it's clear she can't stay alone forever.
0 likesi love it make more please
0 likesI do agree with you about reforming crisalis(sorry I spelled it wrong) but I think crisalis should rule and thorax like a sidekick.
0 likesI categorized the villains into three groups.
0 likesReformed Villains-Nightmare Moon, Discord, Trixie, Starlight Glimmer, Sunset Shimmer, etc.
Villains who have the possibility to be reformed-Queen Chrysalis, Tirek, Cozy Glow
Villains who will never be reformed-King Sombra, Grogar, The Dazzlings
Just give Chrysalis her Fluffle Puff and she'll be reformed in no time 😌 kidding, but nice video!!
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She's my favorite villain of the show!
14 likesI agree. She can manipulate the power of friendship in a toxic way that goes against everything in the show. Very naughty girl lol
33 likesNo, no he got a point
3 likesTrue
3 likesTrue, true
2 likesCozy just needs a more forceful approach with the use of dream magic to show her the way.
13 likesI’d want to know who Cozy’s parents are and what they thought when they found out their daughter was sent to Tartarus and turned to stone.
16 likesKun Feng and cute 😂
4 likes@Camp Gravity Why did they let their 10-year-old daughter destroy the world?
6 likesThat's not a problem if you put her under good guard. She showed in Frenemies that she can't maintain the facade if directly confronted by someone who will put the rules first.
11 likesExisting Chalateo When i first watched
13 likesthat season finale, I thought her parents were gonna pop out and be like, “COZY! This is the fifth dimension you’ve tried to take over! That’s it, you’re grounded!” And they would drag her off and she’d be like “MOOOOM!!!”
@Carolyn Signore
6 likes"You really need a
Full time proofreader
You dumb mouth-breather
Well, you should hire
Some cunning linguist
To help you distinguish
What is proper English"
-cheese sandwich
Anna. G, I wonder.
2 likes@Camp Gravity That would be a great ending... I love it.
2 likes@Toad256 i ment I loved that she was a in plain sight villain!
2 likes@Toad256 or just do what Gravity Falls did with Gideon in Weirdmageddon
2 likesThat’s why cozy’s the boss battle
0 likes@Camp Gravity 😂😂😂😂
0 likesCozy glow is just a pathetic child
0 likes@Camp Gravity My headcanon is that Cozy is an adult pony stuck in the body of a filly, being by magic or handicap, don't know, but this is what made her so hungry for power
0 likesEveryone has their weakness - exploit it... FOR FRIENDSHIP!
0 likesThe story is coming together
1 likeYup after about nine seasons that will never happen like this is like a alternate reality nobody would continue this my little pony is over but I want somebody to write like a story or a comic about it
0 likesI would have liked if they maintained more of their own identity. Maybe the changelings would be a much more disciplined society. Where they are very polite but want a firm hoof. Hard workers but one who can only bond through work.
0 likesChrysalis reformed concept is really AMZING. I'm impressed. 👏🏻
4 likesI think you should make your own episodes where this happens.
0 likesthey need more my little pony episode & seasons
0 likesOkay, what I don't understand, is that. When Ocellus was trapped by the tree, she turned into Chrystalis, so, Ocellus has to be part of Chrysalis
0 likesShe look so pretty reformed
0 likesFor Tirek, There is one who can reform him: Scorpan. He can convince Tirek that he doesn't need power to gain love and approval.
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If Scorpan is still alive
7 likesI agree on reforming them in case something bad happens but its weird to think how Discord did the stone spell and not the royal sisters it’s pretty strange I liked it better thinking it was all three of them but now it’s just Discord but whatever
0 likesClosing Globe was much cuter when she was a nice student at friendship school of Twilight sparkle
1 likethis show is amazing
0 likesI think she needs a second chance
0 likesChrysalis is a character who was amazing when she was a villain and owning every second of it. A good villain doesn’t need a redemption. Unless these theoretical events are occurring several decades or centuries after she was turned to stone, to where she’d essentially be a stranger in a brand new world when released, a redemption won’t work
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FINALLY! Someone who gets it.
8 likesWe don't need to reform every single villain. That's why they work so well, because they are villains.
Check out Toriko, main early antagonist (a literal walking nuke named Zebra) basically changed nothing aside from realising that it's a lot more fun to fight with the good guys cuz they keep running into stronger and stronger opposition.
4 likesI feel like that's one possibility for Chrysalis to change sides without reforming, just plain getting bored! it's silly, but it can happen!
Heck, look at what Super did with Frieza.... still an evil as shit bastard! LoL
Like Frieza, Chrysalis would probably require constant "behaviour checks" to avoid going power mad again.
And of course, One Piece's full of examples, from Buggy to Perona to Bellamy to the whole Baroque Works crew!
@Zef Davenport Not reform them but make them adapt they keep their personalities and same time improving themselves...
3 likes@CaptainOpvious That's reform. Forcing someone to adapt, personality or not, is reform. People need to allow the villains be villains. Those character are needed to have an interesting story.
2 likesIf you force all villains to adapt or reform, then it's kind of boring, since you know that they won't go too far, and will end up as nice guys.
That's why Disney old villains work so well. They end up either disappearing or dying, and their role is fullfilled, they can't be redeemed.
A villain reforming doesn't make them not a good villain though.
2 likesIt depends on how Chrysalis is handled after reforming and such.
@night shroud96 I agree. The reformation process must be handled carefully. Handling a “redemption” like how the creators handled Starlight is going to be lazy at best and ridiculously toxic at worst.
0 likesAnd I’m the context of mlp, more and more villains are getting ‘redemptions’. A villain not being redeemed is going to be new
Oh yeah. You're right. That's why Experiment 627 had to be dehydrated back to pod form. He couldn't be redeemed. Neither can Cozy Glow.
1 likeI was hoping to see cozy glows back story as well as them reformed. I was confused in the last season in why she was imprisoned in a cage next to tierk since she is a child and now she is turned into stone. Where are her parents/guardian? If she was an orphan, she would of use her cuteness to be adopted and be successful. If she was bullied badly and had no friends so she travel to twilight school to make friends but she doesn't seem to have any intentions of making friends with anyone there before entering. She wanted everyone to bow down to her and rule Equestria so I can't think of any possible back story apart from she was bullied and want revenge but since she is a child, wouldn't the mane 6 try to ask her like with starlight glimmer or find her parents/guardian to get some information about her? If she is actually a fully grown adult, it makes less sense
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She was imprisoned because she tried to drain equestria of all its magic which would doom everyone, did u watch the s8 finale?
0 likesYou can't exactly blame Thorax for trying to emulate a successful culture. Let's be honest, changelings were never depicted to have a culture of their own, and after living in Crystal Empire for a while he saw it as something worthwhile. Yea, he definitely needs more backbone, but him copying ponies makes very much sense.
0 likesI'm rather sure that the writers had in the idea that the two sisters participate in the petrification of Tirek & co. After all, why would they be satisfied to just destroy a giant cake? it sounds like a waste of time and energy considering that Discord could have done this on his own.
0 likesGood luck with reforming Chrysalis, she's the one that despised friendship the most. I'm actually not sure she see friendship the way described in the video.
And the reformed changelings adopted pony culture on their own, no one forced them so it's hardly colonialism. the problem is that their culture was a lot about violence and taking advantage of others so that's not a surprised they don't have much left once they're reformed.
There are a set of comics for My Little Pony made by the same company as the show, and in the swap universe of MLP Chrysalis is an alicorn princess.
0 likesMaybe crystalis is allready an transformed changeling. We dont know. I think it would be cool for crystalis tirek and cozyglow to rule their own kingdoms.
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I can see chrysalis going back to the hive,but I'm not sure what kingdoms the other 2 could rule.i mean isn't tirek the last of their species?and cozy glow is a child
9 likesMaybe they finded new kingdoms? I mean, i cant belive the world is that small. And theyre wold isnt round right???
1 likeThe culture thing was addressed with Pharinx in the end honestly. He's gotten them tough again, made able to defend themselves the same way they used to in the end along with embracing friendship. So far, he's the reason they're still unique aside from the transformation. He would indeed be the link!! Her problem however? Arrogance. She should've seen the badass attitude that the battles over the years with the mane 7 have shown. He would honestly be a fantastic proof of this. I hope G5's transitional film does this.
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she is very arrogant but i would say pride more than arrogance
0 likesChrysalis is literally a changing Celestia epic
0 likesAll I'm thinking is chrysalis looks so pretty remormed Imao
0 likesChrysalis went down with thorax for a fight so then they would go along and Christina's might lose and lose trust and try and ask for help and then after she asked for help the leader will give advice and give like a hand and then she will turn nice that's what I think at least
0 likesWhy do i feel like Starlight and Autumn Blaze could Be The ones to help in reforming Cozy? Or maybe even The CMC
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I was singing autumn blaze’s song before I read this comment
2 likesCoOl BeAnS i love Thesong ^^
0 likesI wish the vilans were reformed In the last season because I wonder what they would look like
0 likesI'm thinking maybe the next one's should be lot longer, Queen Chrysalis tire or get drained from what she's enduring from the others, Tireck possibly counciling, Cozy Glow may need a harsh lesson.
0 likesi think they should put chrisis, twilite discord and fierince in a room that she can't escape
0 likesreforming the villain ... the link needed from g4 to g5.
0 likesI haven't watch much of any g5, but from what I've seen of it, I have a theory about why magic "died".
what if g4 "killed" all the bad guys? and while no bad guys is a nice thing, it caused an imbalance (maybe a welcomed imbalance?). with no evil, the "balance" of "good and evil" was shifted, and as a result, something had to give. that something, was magic.
I loved Reformed Chrysalis design <3
4 likesWhat exactly was Changeling culture? Being a bunch of violent, parasitic invaders who were stunted in their development because Chrysalis wanted to keep them addicted and so easier to control? Yeah, no. The previous "Changeling Identity" was based on lies and abuse, so I fail to see how the Changelings gave up anything of meaning here.
0 likesThe very first thing Chrysalis would have to accept is not the power of friendship but to acknowledge that what she did to her people was wrong and that she caused them and their victims needless pain and suffering all for the sake of obtaining power. I'm concerned that this didn't show up even once in your video, but instead you were almost falling over yourself to almost excuse her past actions by going on and on about "changeling identity" which was supposedly lost by that "race-traitor" Thorax becoming king. No, just no.
Tbh I'm surprised that there are still adults theorizing on this after how many years after the show instead of focusing on their own life. Yes their is the arguement this show is made for kids but their is also the argument that media is a outlet from your own reality and not fixing your own life and projecting your psychology and problems on a fictional character wont ever fix your real world issues.
0 likesThis video is reminding me how long it’s been since I watched anything MLP related, damn.
1 likeChrysalis Reformed is pretty although at the beginning she was all with ripped bug wings and parasitic green eyes
0 likesAwesome theories as always-
15 likesChrysalis is actually my fav character,
But my fav MLP theorist is you-
I have a request-
Maybe do zecora?
If your visibly confused, what I mean is:
Zecora was mistaken as a bad guy according to every pony.
Even pinky made a song.
Now I know there’s rumors but theirs gotta be detail why?
Was she framed or something? Is it she being unknown?
Idk, just one random thought that came to my mind ;-;
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Indeed. Chrysalis is also one of my favorites. She may be angry sometimes, but she really does care for others.
0 likesExcuse me... But why did people need to make Chrysalis look so god damn good as good changeling?
0 likesTBH I don't think Thorax is the best leader for the Changelings, it's not good to try and erase your own culture and history to adopt an entirely new one just because you think one culture is better than the other. Good intentions =/= Good Results
1 likeI personally think it is better to reform the others first, part of my reason is that she doesn´t want to be alone as we can see she wants to get her hive back. Icolating her may cause her to think that friendship made her alone, as it did with the rest of the changlings. having the others reform and still be together could show her that she doesn´t have to be alone. Yes i do think that she should be around the other changlings but not so soon, her seeing them in their current state may trigger her hate even more. As you said she doesn´t like the thorax leads, seeing the colony as it is now is what is making hate friendship. I don´t know, maybe I´m wrong, but i like this theory.
0 likesAgain, this is assuming she even WANTS to change. Cuz while we can speculate about this all we want? Only Chyrisalis can decide. Every person in existance could want to help you but unless you WANT help & WANT to change? You won't. Some people won't change Even when their life is on the line.
1 likeHey Sawtooth, can you update your previous conspiracies since the series has ended?
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Um. They could use them in gen 5 ya know. Lol
3 likes"I can understand where Chrysalis is coming from here"
0 likesI mean, you are a changeling. This makes you at least a BIT more credible. But then there's the issue of bias. I'm not opening this can of soda yet though.
it's really such a shame that this never happened . however , i think that some villains deserve to stay villains . reforming every baddie in existence just leaves a bland world where nothing ever happens
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i thought this was real lmao
0 likesLike a lot of people, I wish Chrysalis, Tirek and Cozy would of accepted a friendship between them and SLOWLY start a redemption from there. But you probably do have a point that it would be better keeping them apart, at least until after their redemptions.
0 likesThere’s plenty of fanfics already that try to do just that, reform each of them separately, but I’ll admit I’m in the small percentage that wants to see them be kept together. Three villains finding comfort and acceptance with each other, not only would that have been cute, but show there’s more than one form of friendship.
Heck, with Cozy being just a child and somewhat confirmed she doesn’t have any parents, maybe they could form a little family dynamic tooWhy is chrysalis so beautiful (sorry if I spell her name wrong)
0 likesChrysalis, Tirek and Cozy-Glow should be sent to a Kindness Reform School!
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You have a point. Maybe Sawtooth Waves could teach at that school. One student at a time, like with keeping them isolated from each other. But Tirek is one tough cookie, biscuit or whatever hard, round food you prefer. Tirek is the kid-friendliest Satan can get, and he'd be that one student who needs the most help. As for Chrysalis and Cozy Glow, Chrysalis would be like that one student who tries their hardest. Cozy Glow is in-between Tirek and Chrysalis as she is the youngest, but Cozy is also the one who wants, and I quote from a song, "A new Equestria". I feel Tirek, Cozy Glow and Chrysalis have lots of potential in being good, and mostly Chrysalis and Cozy Glow. Tirek could be a guard, Chrysalis a guard or a side ruler, and Cozy Glow a teacher(when she grows up).
8 likesYes. "Kindness Reform School". Where they're taught about friendship by force. Is this a thing? Does this sound familiar? It sounds a lot like a concentration camp. Forcing them to learn about friendship with torture. That's a concentration camp. I'm sure that's how the Nazis made friends.🙄👻
1 likeHey sawtooth I love your awesome my little pony theories and because of you I heard there was a season 9 but for some reason I can’t watch it can you tell me what I can watch it on
0 likesHey i will tell u something u said that the mentors of the two sis are alicorn but in the episode finding the lost question in one thousand years luna and celstia said our mentor star swirl so it means that there is no more alicorn
2 likesHonestly? Idk if changling culture was something that could be helped or preserved.. Their entire race's purpose and way of life was built upon stealing and deceit. Both inherently evil actions. I can't think of a single thing changlings might've done pre-reform that would be redeemable and worthy of preservation in their future. Hell, changlings didn't even do friendships until now. Why would they have a culture when culture is usually centered around community and how the people act to one another and their traditions they share with one another?
1 likeSo I think the pony colonization and cultural wipe was good for them. (Not counting Pharynx still being a badass. That part of the changlings could stand to live on so that they're not just weird shape-shifting pony clones. Maybe they could become like the dragon ponies, with more gruff and tumble attitudes. Idk.)
Love your videos
0 likesNever knew queen crisalis is so pretty when she is reformed
7 likesChrysalis would probably have to come back for the sake of the Changeling species, she's the only one we know of that is the queen mother of the Changelings, Thorax certainly can't breed and lay eggs, the Changelings seem to work like most insects like bees and ants, a queen gives birth to drones that maintain the hive, unless a female Changeling was bred to be a new queen then the species is doomed, they'd have to free just Chrysalis, send her to her hive and let her see she's needed with Pharynx's help, Thorax needs guidance, the Changelings need their culture, they clearly have one since there is a changeling artifact! (That beetle staff) and they need to thrive! Chrysalis is not only needed to preserve Changeling's history and culture, she's needed for the survival of the hive. Ocellus was obviously one of the youngest Changelings the hive had at the time so that's why she was sent to the school of friendship but now all the hatchlings are grown, they're workers and drones for the hive and unless Thorax had a new queen bred, there won't be any more Changelings
0 likesPerfect reform to crisalis
0 likesI have the theory for you to make if you want to is baby flurry heart really the first alicorn that didn't have to earn it or was it the captain of the royal guard because half of them are like alicorns?
1 likeI don't think reformed Chrysalis should be redesigned to the new changeling style especially if her role is to reconnect the hive with changeling culture. Maybe she could just lose the holes through her legs to show that she's not empty inside anymore but is otherwise still herself.
0 likesreformed chrysalis is so beautiful wtf?
14 likesSince the shows over, I’m going to head canon this LOL
0 likesOmg reformed crycilace is sooo pretty
0 likesi love that reformed crysalis
0 likesThis guy has the best mlp ideas
0 likesReformed Crysalis. There is something I really wanted to see since a long time ago
7 likesYou're years out of date. Chrysalis found friendship with Fluffle Puff.
0 likesI love your channel
0 likesI hope this will happen in real life
1 likenow that we know gen 5 is returning to equestria, this is possible!
0 likesd a m n
45 likesreformed chrysalis be looking fineeeee
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She kinda looks like the Changeling version of Celestia to be totally honest.....🤔
4 likesShe looks whitewashed
1 like@Charms how???
2 likesShe looks really pretty. Better than she is now
3 likesYeah, cez she/they literally have holes through their bodies!
0 likesHoles Through Their Bodies!!!
Marina and the Saints Ok but pretty much all of the changelings became lighter in colour after they were reformed. So.. I guess they’re all ‘whitewashed’. 😂
0 likesShe lost what may very well have been her children. I cannot say for sure, but I can kind of sympathize with her if I lost my child to some foreign influence...
0 likesShes beautiful
0 likesI love MLP, and i drawing them, And this kanal Is just amazing. (Sorry for my enghlish, i am from czech) Btw, i like your woice.😉🥰
0 likesHe should be the one making my little pony shows
0 likesSawtooth: I'll tackle Chrysalis today, I'll tackle the others later.
146 likesAlso Sawtooth: *literally tackling Chrysalis first*
Edit: Oh wow I didnt think I'd get this many likes- tysm!
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Sawtooth: (LITERALLY tackles Queen Chrysalis.)
3 likesChrysalis: (Surprised and angry Bug Horse noises.)
@Mr. Chaos Vicious ah yes
2 likesSawtooth commit belly flop
0 likesThere are alot of OCs but this guy seems like he was taken straight from the show. No joke.
0 likesYes sir that’s a perfect idea
0 likesI hope she gets reformed or maybe she can be reformed in the second my little pony movie . It could happen
0 likesIt would've been cool if she actually did reform
0 likesChrysalis's reform true form is very beautiful, it's a shame that never happen in season 9 finale of "MLP Friendship is Magic".
8 likesReformed chrysalis is beautiful tho
0 likesFor some reason, I’d think of reformed chrysalis was just the same colors just less evil looking and with less cheesy holes
0 likesWhen discord release them just ask him to merge them all and then the celestial and luna to put them on the moon
0 likesThats a beautiful cryshalys
0 likesThis is such a good theory you should be in charge of a my little pony epilogue series
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Welp, time to contact the MLP Production Team because that sounds like a good idea!
0 likesI think queen chrysails should be like you showed at the end of th video bright and white
0 likesI wish if chrysalis be like other changelings reformed
0 likesokay Chrysalils doesnt need to be white She just needs to change style like
0 likesmaking her horn smooth, making her wings connected, making her ALMOST look like a pony!
got it?
So tirek eats magic. He could eat magic as a punishment for certain crimes, or infinite magic generator. Chrysalis just wants to have the changelings thrive, and it's already happening, so she just needs to accept peace. Cozy, yeah no she's true evil
0 likes“Every series still needs some solid villains.”
1 likeI'm sad she choosed to be evil :(
1 likeBut imagine this,
0 likesQueen Chrysalis loses to Pharynx and gets angry and takes them back by hypnotizing discord and the changelings and destroys equestria and the main 6 needs to fight back
Another questions did the bridesmaids become normal or are they still on the side of evil and are hidden
Question…. How did they turn cozy glow to stone when she was flying..
0 likesI would love to see what reformed Chrysalis looks like.
8 likesI mean how powerful but kind she would end up looking like.
We love Thorax, but Chrysalis has always been a better leader.
0 likesI like the thought of her palette still being dark color like the one dudes brother
0 likesimagine if in G5 they get reformed
0 likesnow i wanna make this into a AudDra :)
0 likesWhy couldn't this happen in the actual show?
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Idk
2 likesokay so. ive always wondered this. Why does ferinx have horns while the other lower ranking(as in not the king) changelings, dont?
0 likesLove is just a history that they may prove
0 likesAnd when you’re gone
I’ll tell them my religion’s you
When Punktious comes to kill the king upon his throne
I’m ready for their stones
This is so cool
0 likeswow she is so pretty
0 likesJust give her some gingerbread. Everybody know you get nicer if you eat gingerbread
0 likesReformed Chrysalis is beautifull ngl
0 likesYou can not reform me. I am too evil to be turned to good, whatever good means. My power can destroy most but power of friendship. This "friendship" is so annoying! I wish it was gone...
1 likeForever...
Queen Chrysalis 🦋
0 likesHonestly if you look at the changeling interpretation of hearths warming, that shows true changeling culture. Imitation but in a unique way. As that is what changelings did best. Blend in but not by conventional means.
35 likesWatch the scene again, sure they may be emulating pony tradition but its in a uniquely changeling way(mainly they took instructions and metaphors literally)
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Agree, besides isn't this what happened with most of celebration in our world. Most of them was brought to another country from another influential country sometimes through trade.
3 likesSo like America with basically anything. As stupid as we are, we are really good at taking others ideas, and making it out own, by putting our own spin on it. Take Pizza, it's originally an Italian dish, but we took the idea, and changed it so much that our Pizza, isn't even real Pizza by Italian standards.
4 likes@Michael Gillespie So is that bad?
0 likes@Coralline idk, that up for interpretation, but I like it. It shows a certain humbleness to he will to learn and adapt others ideas. I always viewed the America as the nation that should always be willing to adopt others ideas, and make it out own. Sadly, the America I live in, doesn't really match my ideals
1 like@Michael Gillespie Which one do you live in? The North or South, or the States?
0 likes@Coralline Oh no, I meant it figuratively, like the time I was born into the United States doesn't live up to my ideals yet.
0 likes@Michael Gillespie Ohhh. Gotcha.
0 likesI love your Redemption!Chrysalis design!
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She was supposted ylto a be the main protagonist or Adagio rather than Sonata or Moondancer however no one wanted Chrysalis and Starlight to be friend
0 likesBecause this Starlight îs with ne-o nazi influence
0 likesWho îs Sonatas childhood friend în this
0 likesThey're Changelings - imitation IS their culture.
0 likesI love the intro
0 likesNot sure why everyone thinks a literal child deserves to be turned to stone for all eternity. Lol
0 likesSo for me, chrysalis NOT being reformed is part of why i like her. Shes one of the few villins to not reform or die. Shes a rare character, and to reform her would cause her to lose something that made her special. But thats just my thoughts
16 likesThis is honestly how they should have handled this but I think were too afraid too.
0 likesI think it a great idea mabe she can be a good pony and not make war in her coltcher. And her pony friends would chang to
0 likesWhat happened to the changelings with no queen to rule over them?
1 likethey could release queen chrysalis and take hear to the mirror pool and make a duplicite and teach the duplicit about friend ship.
0 likesMakes sense in terms of reforming it’s the perfect way to go for chrysalis
5 likesI feel like the only 2 that can be reformed is the changeling queen and cozy glow
0 likesWell, cozy glow became an Alicorn from that special bell. Then when the bell was destroyed, she again became normal. And they never got realised
1 likeIf so, it doesn't work, but do I have to do my habilitation? Is this another fight between her and the new pony that is eventually ruined by the strange queen who grabs you as you rush to enjoy the beautiful shawl of the old palace, but in the final sixth season you will be ranked associated alien queens? Season 9 is the premiere of teams made up of Mr. Tirek and Cozy Glow defeat the Grogar Six Manes and face Equestria. The Mane Six and their allies go to stone with Tireek and take it easy in the season 9 finale.
0 likesDiscuss your stories below! My ass five times!
Good Night.
Chrysalis did have potential to become a princess
0 likesThis is such an amazing idea that I wish Hasbro had gone with this in the original show! 🤩🤩🤩
3 likesWait wait wait- what is chrysalis is a good queen before she go evil ok
3 likesWhen queen chrysalis was her reformed self she was a good queen but what is she a alicorn? a unicorn that have a butterfly wings? Im confused
What culture? Chrysalis only saw the hive as an army for her use when Thorax was missing she didn't even look for him. I'm sorry but she'll never change.
1 likeI love reformed chrysalis
0 likes4:40 so she has a halo now. Ready to reform!
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😂😂😂😂
0 likesHow to reform teirek: probably have him visit chrysalis or try to show him that taking magic could damage himself aswell (flash back to glow taking almost all the magic from equastria) and just take his reform step by step little by little but if he tries doing damage he is forced to give it back.
5 likesi'm disappointed by the ending since i was really sure the three would understand friendship or something like there were even some clues that it ends up like this but instead they just got turned in stone and were never seen again c.c
0 likesdang chrysalis looks pretty-
0 likesI honestly do hope they reform Chrysalis, Thorax is kind of wimpy and he doesn't really act like a true leader in my opinion. And Chrysalis' love and leadership for the hive would be better then having a leader like Thorax.
0 likesOne of the main reasons I listen until the end is for Sawtooth to say Yoshi Dark Lord's name.
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This was a year ago wow. Sawtooth is still making amazing theories.
0 likesI feel like tirek and chrysalis could be reformed in time, but cozy glow is just too...... evil. Cozy glow pretended to be good again, I can't imagine her being reformed.
1 likecozy: yes
0 likescrysalis:maybe
tirek: NO
I know one way
2 likesIntroduce her to fluffle Puff
That sure to do it.
Crysalis was the quen of love
0 likesI think that Crystalys was always my fav villain. It would be nice to see her reform but it would be still weird for me to see her good...
7 likesI dont want her to reform i love chrysalis
0 likesSeeing this now made me think on if they will find the statue in G5 because like either the villains are still a statue in G5 or they got delt with in some other way but in the end atleast one of them is probably still around in G5 tin neck has been alive for atleast over a thousend years with no food there only is one changeling hive impiyng that there can only be one hive with one ruler also the changelings have to still be around in G5 like seriusly where are the villains in G5 discord is alive he is the pure imbodyment of chaos like now i'm questoning where all the probably immortal beings are like we can assume that the destroyer of dreams and the prinses of merchandising would be around for atleast a thousend years unless she's difrent celestia and luna might be dead but they have been alive for well over a thousend years as equestia is implied have had them for a long time how long is it until G5 after the story of G4 like the implication is that all the immortals maybe there's only one immortal being and that's discord as the embodyment of chaos would probably not just disapear
0 likesmaybe you could do a sombra reform video involving radiant hope to help
0 likesWait I just realized
0 likesWhy is Chrysalis the only changeling that looks like a pony (kinda)
Like she has the horn and she uses it like a regular unicorn horn
confused
I rewatched this and I remember this fic where Ocellus is a queen, like Chrysalis (there are quite a few of these.) Pretty unrelated, but I noticed during one of the clips Ocellus has that pink head wing-material thing that the others have on their tails, which could signify how she's of higher power? Changelings are weird, Ocellus should be as much of Chrysalis's daughter as Thorax, her "siblings", and her "parents".
6 likesIf Chrysalis had multiple litters (can't get cats out of my mind, ah), they'd still be siblings and the next generation would be very weird (if Ocellus isn't a queen, there is no literal next generation, or apparently metamorphosis has made changelings into literal ponies.
Maybe incorporate the Ocellus head ruff-thing into Chrysalis's design?
Everytime I see Chrysalis I think it's my name 😭
0 likesThe changelings weren’t “colonised” by ponies. Their culture wasn’t taken from them etc because they didn’t have any culture to begin with. They were all consumed with the constant need to eat that they didn’t develop any culture. That’s why Princess Celestia tells everyone to leave the changlings to themselves after they turn good. So they can figure themselves out without interference. It’s only natural that they would take some of their friends holidays etc because they don’t have anything like that yet.
0 likesYes i think i have an Idea that you are amazing sawtoot waves
1 likeWait, isn’t Sawtooth a Changeling who left the hive before Chrysalis fell?
0 likesgreat job as always, love ♡
3 likesi think the reason mlp villans dont want to reform is because they see it as a cult. or in chrysalis's case, a infection
1 like1:07 in the return of harmony discord clearly said “ he doesn’t turn ponies in to stone “ yet in season 9 he turned not one but 3 ponies into stone. i think he lies to himself
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Only one of them is a pony
0 likesI mean like Crysalis needs to be reformed cause the changeling culture would die out without her
0 likesI think this is a really great theory
0 likesChrysalis’s reformed form (too many forms) is very pretty-
14 likesI believe her core problem is to do with lack of faith in others, her primary ability and what she exemplified throughout her appearances was that she trusted no one to help her or care about her, to take love from others instead of having faith that you would receive it after giving it, the idea that it’s about culture is an idea made on the assumption that there is was a culture, granted we don’t know the history of changlings, I’d gamble on the idea that they were her creation for the sole purpose of being her tools to do just what she wanted to do, guarantee love and loyalty, through taking it and ruling with fear. I do agree that Ferinx is a good key to helping her with this, but I also feel that rainbow dash, rarity, and fluttershy would be the best candidates for teaching her to have faith in others, that she would receive love and friendship without having to force it; by giving it.
0 likesreformed chrysalis looks way better than the reformed changelings i'm using this as inspiration
0 likesshe looks so much better then before
0 likesok but this chrysalis reformed version looks amazing
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She looks like a princess
0 likesMe: trying not to watch spoilers of season nine
64 likesAlso me: watches sawtooth waves because of his awesome theory’s of season 9
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Pinkyy YT you wanted to not watch spoilers of season nine and then you found this video and you then realized it was a season nine theory😅😆
3 likesI know a season nine theory 😎
1 likePinkyy YT lol same
0 likesI HATE the mlp final SO much !
0 likesCaleb Prescott
0 likesWhy?
What about king sombra
0 likesI love see him reforming
I like that idea 😁😁😁
0 likesHi I really want you to reform cozy glow!
0 likesBut we are shown that..
0 likesChainglings didn't have much of a culture beyond serving a leader?
They are lit designed to change?
And like .. Being docile isn't always weak?
...
Changelings are trying to develop a culture beyond just servitude and gathering..
So they are doing what changelings do and copying the nearest culture to fit in.
They are? Being themselves?
Anyway some of this "docile and weak" and "losing our culture" stuff is handled in the ep with thoraxes older bro?
Like?
I think it might be an oversimplification, but this is a good thought, and perfectly suitable for the sort of show MLP:FIM is.
10 likesWait wait wait aren't you going to talk about how chrisilyas turned evil and how she was born as a changeling ampmd made all the others and became queen i am curious about that
0 likesHow did they even become evil in the first place.
0 likesThe villains that reformed are
2 likesDiscord
Night mare moon
Starlight glimmer
Sunset shimmer
Trixie lula moon
Dang twilight just wants everything to be her way she needs help to except others and chrysalis is nice to her hive twilight just needs to see it edit: I'm not saying she's evil but when you look at it you can understand what I mean
0 likesI love this theory, but who knows what will happen in mlp pony life. I can't wait to see your next theories.
11 likesDo cozy glow next
0 likesBro reformed crystalist is beautiful
1 like"if you havent see it yet u might wanna watch the video"
1 likeme: i have class after this-
Wow that was the coolest thing ever
0 likesWait a minute did you make that reformed chrysalis art? The aesthetic works very well.
5 likesBaby blue is so chrysalis shade💙
0 likesExcelente
0 likeswhat if she appears in g5? and is possibly reformed then?
0 likesThey’re just stubborn. It’s like when your sad, you don’t want to be happy but you also want to be happy. It’s hard to explain
0 likesYou will need to do Cozy Glow last she is too much of a risk
9 likesMaybe Chrysalis can’t be reformed because she had a chance to reform and she said no. I think she also has a chance of reforming tho too because she kinda considered it for a moment when starlight held out her hoof
0 likesWhen reformed she........looks.......BEAUTIFUL WOW CHRYSALIS YOU LOOK FANTASTIC
0 likesSeparate their heads from their necks. Permanent solutions are so often the best solutions.
0 likesi think Chrysalis would look more like Fairings
0 likesI think a good idea would be to free one villain at a time. Then when the other villinas still stuck see how there 'friend' changed they will see how they can be be accepted even considering the past things. It's like you said in your video about the transformations of Twilight and Sunset. Power clouded our there sound judgement. They forgot that they needed to be accepted if they wanted to rule but the power corrupted them.
3 likesMom: GET TO WORK
0 likesMe: I’m listening to sawtooth waves!
Mom: NOW
Me: he’s the best YouTuber!
Mom:
whats a youtuber?
Let’s just say, my little pony needs more seasons.
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#G4ContinuePls
0 likesReform a character without completely destroying their character design or their core personality then keep them as a villain
0 likes4:58 She is so beautiful she is like a butterfly pony 🦋
0 likesidea for a special called a queen can changed: when queen chrysalis and King Changer (the king of the changlings) and their army of rouge changling are powerfull and is up to everypony and creature to stop them and starlight and thorax tries to reason with her to change.
39 likesMy question is why are her eyes like the pony's? All the other changelings have those solid eyes
0 likesWould you please make a video on the real reason behind night mare moon .See the theory goes like this
0 likesIf you remember the tale of the 2sisters was after Luna was banished to the moon celestia took in charge of both sun and moon if you think about it how did celestia get the power to reach the moon? although there are 2 explanations
Explanation number 1- after Luna was banished to the moon celestia use the elements of harmony to gain the power of raising the moon too
Explanation number 2 - celestia had the ability to raise the moon long before Luna was banished. Luna might have gotten to know that celestia had this power and become jealous and felt like a spare . celestia would have probably give in that position the Luna for raising the moon because she was her sister. this explains a lot and makes a lot more sense for Luna to become jealous of celestia and turn into a nightmare moon
I told you about this theory invite of you videos of yours. If you think me during make sense then please make a video about it
You can't just throw in "culture" and not explain. Culture isn't food and clothes, it's beliefs, social norms, passed down behaviors and ways of life. Culture is not static, it evolves and changes over time. The changelings old culture was to lie, deceive, steal and enslave. Rather then "preserving" that culture, they need to explore their new social position and develop a new culture better adapted to their new situation. Trying to import pony culture whole sale isn't working, but that doesn't mean retaining their incompatible old cultural norms would work any better. It's simply incompatible with the world they live in now.
0 likesIt hard to believe Queen of the changeling
0 likesI can Imagine Hasbro seeing this and putting it into the show
4 likesWow, a YouTube than actually CREDITS THE ART IN THEIR VIDEO???? Finally
0 likesI honeslty believe that chrysalis should have been reformed. i was staying that when teh episode premiered, and i stand by that now. she should have been reformed with her hive for the exact same reason she was a villian: her hive. she was its leader. her pride if nothing else should have stopped her from splitting with it.
0 likesIf only my little pony was this smart
0 likesWait a Minute how would The changelings Reproduce if the Queen is no longer there
1 likeDid thorax become pregnant and Lay eggs👁️👄👁️
5:12 she look soo pretty when she is reformed
4 likesI do think that they can be reformed .
1 likefor those who wonder the music at the start is called ice flow
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yep i put all music in the description
0 likesI don't think this would work. I think it would work better like how ember and thorax were talking to each other, remember? I have watched the videos many times so I have found a few gaps.
0 likesAre they ever going to free
0 likesthe villains?
Someone needs to make an episode of this.
5 likesCulture is pride
0 likesTo abandon it
Is like abandoning who you are
And thats abandoning you're pride
I agree with this video
Yes it would be a good idea but think about how will you get them out one at a time
0 likesWow shes pretty
1 likeI love you so much 🌺
0 likesI can't believe that Chrysalis will change
0 likesI want to see what happened when Queen chrysalis turn holes on her wings holes on her horn and holes on her well everything she's so bad but I know in the future or I mean in the past seamless good and gentle but he is mad at Princess cadence
2 likesAlso thorax wasn't forcing them to forsake anything. He made these suggestions and outside of Phalanx, every changeling was okay with his system.
0 likesFlufflepuff is the key to reforming Chrysi
0 likesShe actually has a look it’s in the books she’s the lost princess
20 likesi don’t even like my little pony but this is mad interesting
0 likesyes and i hope true pony show come back with season 10+
0 likesPlot twist,: Sawtooth is actually a maker of the show, and is explaining the concepts to us slowly.
2 likesI think its a good idea but what if in the fight tirekr cozy come? I mean it can be true that they try to keep chrysalis bad
0 likesPony colonialism/gentrification is not a topic I'd ever thought I'd be thinking about but it's 2020 so all bets are off.
0 likesChrysalis looks beautiful as reformed and she should rule alongside with ? (Idk his name)
0 likesSo great 😃👍🏻💗🥰🥰😍♥️♥️♥️♥️💕👋✨😁😊
0 likesWhat you mean she gave them life she deserves to be thee leader
0 likesPs / I agree
Mlp: finishes
20 likesSawtooth: i can milk you
To be honest, I would rather have only Chrysalis reformed. I like Tirek more as villian. Cozy Glow.....I don't really care for, good or bad, I don't think she should have appeared at all. But those are just my optinions so I'm not gonna judge anyone else's.
1 likeIt wood be good if Chrysalis become good
1 likeDo you know if Steven universe was in the same thanks and then if you seen the movie you would see that there’s a really starter weapon just use that on her I’ll restart her maybe you’ll be able to find out how she looked in the past
0 likesThe real pony to reform chrysalis is.... Fluffle Puff XDDD
1 likeWait....
205 likesDiscord could use his magic when he was stone
What’s stoping crystalis from breaking the spell I mean she beat the princesses before
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Because he has chaos power
15 likesHe's the god of Chaos. He has a place in the universe whether ponies like it or not. Like all forces of nature you can't contain them for long.
23 likesDiscord is stronger then both celestia and Luna combined and could have effortlessly defeated sombra like nothing. I doubt that chrysalis can get out of his spell (only Cosmos and stygian in his shadow pony form is stronger without any transformation)
15 likesShe had Shinings love for Cadence powering her up
7 likes@Sheena Ford Not to mention she had Celestia aiming down at her in a crowded room, plus it was just Celestia.
5 likes@Some Guy that uses the internet Who's Cosmos? A character from the comics?
4 likes@Sea Agate Pretty much.
0 likesDiscord's ex who is crazy and turns out caused all that chaos in the past and Discord made it look like he did it by erasing the princesses' memories and such.
It really screwed up the sisters' achievement there.
Discord is the the god of Chaos the opposite of harmony
1 likeAm i the only one who thinks Glimmer should have swapped with Cozy Glow? Like I know there might be some who will hate me for this but there's a reason why Season 9 was pretty bad writing wise.
0 likesAll three have different reasons to go away from friendship Crisalist doesn’t want to be weak Cosey glow wants leadership and Terek whants to follow in his fathers footsteps
0 likesChrysalis cozy glow and tirek are dangerous and they may be able to reform but they'll be people or others down the line in the generations you see that there way before they were reformed what's the best way to rule
0 likesYeahhhh they should’ve done a 10th season...
0 likesI think that it should be Chrysalis who rules, and Thorax who advises. She is the Mother Figure in the hive, something a father, though u can get very close, doesn't really give (this is my opinion, I am actually biased). She also has a lot of experience. Thorax would be a very good friendship advisor etc...
0 likesIn her reformed style she looks like queen Elsa from the movie "Frozen 2". She is so beautiful!
0 likesDon’t what to be a downer but once evil always evil
0 likesWhat I mean by this is although you become a better person the thoughts and dos of evil remain in your mind as a memory
Chrysalis is my favorite villain :D
2 likesHive: eating nuggets
13 likesChrysalis: .kicks nuggets
Hive: Why you bully me?
wow 🤩 wow 🤩 wow 🤩!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesYou’re, You’re omg.
AMAZING 😉
Chrysalis was given a chance to reform and rejected it. Tyrek and Cozy are beyond redemption as one sees ponies as weak and murked his own brother, the other views friendship as a power source
0 likesNgl, the only one of the villians I really wanted to be reformed was Chrysi TwT
0 likesChirsilis is probably just scared of change she wants to be incontrol of atleest a group of creatures/aka tirek and cozy glow/ i belive there's hope for her I love chriselis she's my favorite mlp villan 😊
0 likes"If only we had a detailed guide of some sort-"
38 likesOh wait. We do.
Me: Welp, that is Sawtooth for ya
The only thing I don't agree with is how she looks after reforming if she is supposed to retain some of her old self then I think she should be a darker color like pharanyx
0 likesComments freaking out about Cozy Glow turning to stone.
2 likesMe disappointed they all weren't just reduced to ash to neutralize any future threats.
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i mean that would have been the smartest option but the finale would have been even more controversial lol
0 likesThat's actually a very believable, yet simple and elegant reformation story! It would've been awesome if that'd been what happened
1 likeHasbro should make season 10 and chrysalis should get reformed in S10 E9
0 likesChrysalis becoming reformed would be the BEST thing to happen to the series I'd crY DUDE
8 likesHow the hell did it take me 2 years to see this
1 likeyaii, a mission for Twillights star pupil... and who knows, perhaps some of the friends :D
0 likesI know this was a year ago but I didn’t know they were sent out of stone
0 likesIt's a different magic called gaslighting
0 likesI feel like Chrysalis would stay evil even by herself. I mean, she was the only who did.
22 likesMaybe controlling minds might be difficult to pass
0 likesYay I like the reform better
1 likeMORE VIDEOS
Phyrx is a good example buddy
0 likesWhat you say is true what about her family every Royal Kingdom has to loyal family like Luna Celestia first sepal they're both sisters and no one knows about their parents maybe Queen Chrysalis is jealous of her older brother Allis is the original the sin of lust he doesn't use his changeling powers to transform stealing the energy of love as stay he use his gorgeous body and his gorgeous looks means he's beautiful the anyone he ever see he's not hungry for love he wants to steal love for himself The truth is he was desperate to find out who his real love is a special some Pony or special someone he use his gorgeous body his gorgeous looks for ruin marriage and relationship it's like the husband cheating his wife for another beautiful younger woman and the wife do the same thing
0 likesThis would have been a FANTASTIC turnaround for Chrysalis! I wish this would have happened.
5 likesThis is my history down God Night
0 likesyou know who can reform Chrysalis FLUFFLE PUFF
0 likesCozy glow is a child,
0 likesShe would be the easiest
Normal fans: Me: styles hair like cozy glow
1 likeTo be honest Chrysalis has a great villain song, it’s no Hellfire but still it’s great
6 likesReasons twilight is the worst pony: she locked a legitimate child in stone A CHILD!! Abandoned the friends she had in her old home. Let Thorax take cychrisalist's Children, and let him get rid of channeling culture.
0 likesTends not to be understanding at all.
She needs love
0 likesThe true way to reform chrysalis: Flufflepuff.
0 likesAlso, queen Christmas heheheheh.
What if You became 1 of those changelings but instead of reforming you turned into a pony when that'd be crazy!
0 likes2:30 The magic of friendship is like a disease. An infection that spreads to those around you.
18 likesMe: The Coronavirus is a virus. An infection that spreads to those around you.
First video I've seen from you.. Subscribed!
0 likesMaybe she already has changed but is in her original form because wage wants to look big and powerful
0 likesIs chrysalis reforming into what they are on Netflix?
0 likesWithout Chrysalis, the Changeling Kingdom HAS to FALL. So in insects living in a colony. Or Triax SHOULD have married.
0 likesБез Кризалис Королевство Перевёртышей ПАСТЬ ДОЛЖНО. Так у насекомых живущих колонией. Или Тракс ДОЛЖЕН БЫЛ жениться.
You know, Thorax’s reformation of changeling culture kinda reminded me of when the US occupied Japan after WW2.
14 likesi honestly think starlight glimmer would be better at reforming her. they basically had the same stories. starlight glimmer used to lead an equal society where everyone would be the same and then got defeated by the mane 6, which made her get revenge on twilight. chrysalis' hive was basically an equal society as well since all changelings were the same. then she was defeated by starlight and also ended up trying to seek revenge, but failed. starlight could have taught her that revenge is not the best way and friendship would be the better way to go. plus, thorax doesn't need to be the changelings' only leader
0 likesNo way no how i’m not letting her have a home
0 likesyou forget discord freed himself after like 1000 years if beeing in stone.
0 likesI saw all of the videos of chrysalis, cozy glow and tirek. But can you do reform videos of nintendo and sega villans in the future?
0 likesI like the fact of how you still make theories of mlp even though the show already ended
5 likesBut when chrysalis Ranaway I thought she ran to find a new hive
0 likesI love my little pony
0 likesTime to reform your bug queen
0 likesAll we need to do is call in the FLOOF
0 likes2:50-3:20 Remember when Thorax offered to throw starlight a gorge fest right after she graduated, this shows that he didn’t abolish the culture
10 likesAll looks so cute oh Chris the weathers like a tiny Paul Kiry who am I saying oh
0 likesHow to make Chrysalis reformed- make Flufflepuff canon.
0 likesBUT
0 likesLegends never die😵
I didn't even know Cozyglow was evil-
1 likeSomeone pls explain to me whats happening
No, i won't become a brony again... although it looks pretty interesting
0 likesThat s pretty clever
0 likesIt makes since Chrysalis Was First Because Sawtooth is A Changeling
2 likesI think Tempest reformed Chrysalis
1 likeTo be honest I wouldn't mind seeing chrysalis reformed at all...Firery Joker sadly got her description right...as her Princess Cadence disquised she was a GOOD villian...when she revealed herself...not so much.
0 likesJosh: "I think I liked her better when she was princess s🤣t"
Granted she improved in her returns but...it was never as good as her disquise. She could've disquised herself as someone else and pulled the same cruel behavior but she never did. For the queen of the changelings, shapeshifting was never explored.
Pov: you hated discord in season 2 episode 1-2 but loved him after
0 likesSo we're not gonna reform Sombra then?
0 likesShe is reformed, and Celestia took over her
0 likesI wish theyd make a season 10 :( to bad tho
0 likesDude you so smart you can even find things l can't even dream of
0 likesWhy can’t you just use groar bell to take their magic?
0 likesI like cozy glow and chrysalis
0 likesHuh, this is an interesting scenario, I wouldn't mind seeing this in action
3 likesWhat episode/season is the pink pony in
0 likesWhen I heard it ended I went on Netflix to watch it again, but it doesnt have anything past season 9 anyone know where I can watch it?
Like on the cutie mark problem I'm so after we can all be friends but that depends on the villains it will be hard to make them nice because Crystalis I hate when people ruin her stuff
1 likeWhat if princess celestia was watching this right now 🤔
0 likeswait- so is sawtooth trying to reform his damn MOTHER????!!?!
0 likesI like the art good job makeing her reformed art before she looked like burnt Swiss cheese
4 likesJust unfreeze their heads until they cooperate (exept chrysalis horn and t Recks mouth)
1 likeI have a very good idea of this wonderful message
0 likesyeah thanks to lauren we dont ever see if the become good persons !!!!
0 likesI think twilight should let them go or just leave them, plus how come season o haven't made it onto Netflix yet.
0 likesI like cozy glow
0 likesMaybe they can try to make another episode about it and maybe they can read the villains and maybe those characters that the ponies can understand what they're saying
0 likesI like chrysalises good form
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Because she maybe might be tall as celestia
0 likesFor some reason my intuition aways said that Queen Chrysalis is actually Princess Amore
0 likesSawtooth:- solves every problem of mlp
0 likesMe thinking:- why didn't mlp season 10 come with all this and instead just leaving everything 😐😐
Did you see Nightmare Moon before in the My Little Pony before Queen Chrysalis came out Stone
0 likesActually I’m thinking about making a fanfic about reforming the villains
0 likesI know this is stupid to get mad about. But why is her being white “good” and not evil 💀, they could be darker color schemes
1 likeI could see a situation where 2 of the villains accept friendship but 1 doesn't similar to jasper in Steven universe future
6 likesOk but what did the changelings do before other than eat and attack?
0 likesI think that Chrysalis would like to become Good or not
0 likesNO BC LIKE- CHRYSALIS IS SO PRETTYYYY
0 likesalso the Pharynx guy is really cool-
Reforming chrysalis yes the other two not so much
1 likeIt's easy, introduce her to Fluffle Puff! :D
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Wut
0 likesY e s
0 likesO yassss
0 likesYESSSSSA
0 likesi just got my self wondering will we see a reformed chrysalis in mlp new generation 2 i have no clue how long changelings live for old version and new version of them if it changes things
0 likesIf you did make your own episodes make the animation just like the real ones.
0 likesthey are evil I know that when they work as a team so I guess friendship is for them they worked together but the bell from roguard is actually magic?
0 likesThe changlings when chrysalis them. OUT YOU GO.
0 likesIt’s probably a stupid question but aren’t changelings technically Alcones because they have Wings and horns? Just thinking
1 likeChrysalis should be reformed. if only a season 10 existed.
0 likesIs it wrong that I'm still scared of queen chrysalis
0 likesThis is a lie, only fluffle puff will reform chrysalis
0 likesScootaloo, Sweetiebelle and applebloom would release them and cause the end of the pony universe
1 likeWe would like to see and Nightmare Moon reformed
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Nightmare Moon is Luna's evil side she is reformed
0 likesWhat if the mlp creators watched this? 😏
0 likesChrysalis' story is just so sad. All she ever did was feed herself and her subjects. She did everything she could for them. You can't blame her for not "reforming". Maybe she knew that by feeding oneself with one's own love only destroyed one. Or that you cannot depend on only one group's love for you to survive. After all that she did for them, her subjects just ditched her, just like that. Now that's got to hurt. She had every right to be mad at the mane 7. Then, after she tried to get her revenge, without looking at her past, the"good" ponies just turned her to stone. It just makes me sad. I like chrysalis just the way she was.
0 likes"if only we had a detailed guide of-"
5 likes"Oh wait i do! "
Y e s
Y e s. y o u. d o
make a video about fluffle puff, i love him/her
0 likesfluffle puff: omg she must be beatiful reformed mabye?
0 likesMe: looks at intro
1 likeMe: opens wattpad
Me: go on?
LOL the way he tackles them
0 likesI think it's a wagers investment (??) Deal.
6 likesShe's been doing this for so long, she doesn't see value in change.
If she does, she supressess that.
You need her to actually see the value in combining interests.
Right now, all she sees is her toys running off being people.
That's a good idea
0 likesPony colonialism!? Quick someone go warn the buffalos.
0 likesMimicking pony nature the change lanes they can change into things LOL
1 likeso in G5 all of the vilans hold back with magic where are they or what happened to them when magic disaper?
0 likesWhen Human Twilight went through the portal to equestria she was an unicorn but when she ponys up she grows wings.Why?Since she discovered friendship. Off the topic I know. Plus I have no idea how tirek can be reformed
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In the human world Sci-Twi and the others (besides Sunset) probably derive magic from their counter-parts which is why she has wings in The Human World but not Ponyville
5 likesme remembering his name was thorax: 💀
0 likesWow hasbro should hire you to make for episodes
1 likeIs that place finally have a nationallity of dragons ponies and changelings
0 likesThere could be none reformed changlings in the hive but they just made themselves look like the reformed ones......
0 likesOmg, that’s what I’ve been thinking about after the show ended.
6 likesflutter-cord = half chaos half pony hybrid named Chaotic!
0 likesI think celestia freed discord as she thought chaos was not evil as it could turn to friendship but why would twilight teach him friendship I mean she tried but didnt she give up why would she try to but it makes sence that she would as she is the princess of friendship
0 likesI don't like how everyone connects reforming with transforming, Thorax was already good before he became a hideous rainbow moose so I don't see why Chrysalis needs to change on the outside if she doesn't want to
0 likesI think diamond tiara could reform Queen chrysalis
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eh, i don't think so.
0 likesI hope she doesn't reform ngl she's best villain ;3
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I mean,chrysalis is a good character with their evilness but her going back to her hive could make a good comic,special,spinoff,ect
32 likesYou gotta admit though, the art of reformed Chrysalis is beautiful.
17 likesTJDraws agree
3 likesETERNAL PG3D Tirek and “Grougar” come back from G1 so anything can happen
3 likesThe fact that the villains weren't redeemed at the end for once was one of the things I liked about the finale because it got so boring seeing antagonist after antagonist get redeemed (with very few of them left by the end).
4 likesConnor Beith better let some villains stay in the dark side
3 likes@Connor Beith Its botched up big time due to Discord's crap there though.
0 likesAnd the fact the criteria for unreformed villains is already met with what happened to the Shadows, Sombra and Storm King.
I really want to see that who is the parents of cozy glow’s
0 likes2:16 this just looks soooooo funny
0 likes..............
It kinda reminds me of fluffle puff tales
Well you’re a challengling so you can reform her
0 likesYes she is the real princess of love cadence is criseltel princess
1 likeI kinda don’t want chrysalis to be reformed. Maybe it’s just me, but she’s an OG Villain! I liked her the way she was! Maybe it’s just, me maybe not who knows?
18 likes2:32 Chrysalis knew about corona lol
0 likesyou should raveil your true side
0 likesChrysalis cod make more changlings
0 likesRead :the journal of the 2 sisters
1 like"new culture who dis?"
101 likesme: W H E E Z E
this feels like an scp containment video
1 likegues I just realise something, in the new episode of my little pony, make your mark, we got to see a new villain, I noticed that it has the same hair color, as that evil little poney, what if that happened, twilight, tries to release them and show them the right way but she failed, they won and took control over the world as her last hope she gave up magic to stop them, what do you think.
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Not bad
0 likesWhat they did to the other Christmas ponies was a nightmare their eye bleed colors
0 likesI think it’s Crystal’s fault that it that they don’t become friends she did just has to make them or not be friends
0 likesBut Starlight told her that she can be leader of changelings after reforming.
4 likesGuys I have one question : "where is owlowiscious?"
0 likesAll you need is flufflepuff JUST FUFFLEPUFF
1 likeIt’s Twilight Sparkle we are talking about. Of course she is going to take after her mentor. But she needs to contact you before freeing them. Cause you’ve got it all planned out.
0 likesHow do u even know what will she look like when reform!“?
0 likesNo offense, but this dude is a HUGE OPTIMIST
1 likeI also think Fluttershy should be not there, but in the relitive area, to guide discord, as Cesea did with Twilight
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Peaceful nature and quite place in front of Virgin forest is the best place of reabilitation.
0 likesWas closing gloves childhood bad or good 😃
1 likeI want klesalets to re frome she is pretty and if you do that would be a amazing
0 likesYES YOU HAVE POSTED!!!!!!!!!!WE HAVE MISSED YOU
6 likesBut yes theories take time so I respect you
Why is Cozy glow's cutie mark a chess rook?
0 likesMaybe reform every villan
0 likesWhy not just take them out of stone one by one and not release them all together and taking them away from each other?
0 likesDid the series really just full on destroy a society's culture? Seriously?
1 likeI hope I'm not the only one who actually prefers them as villains
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Nope. Sometimes it’s an insult to who they were if they’re reformed. It can be cheap and out of character for them if they give in to the heroes. Not all villains should be reformed. They deserve a chance sometimes but sometimes not, or don’t want it.
2 likesI got to save my queen
0 likesCan you make a video about reforming king sombra
1 likeCozy Glow LOVES to make friends and LOVED magic but HATES the FRIENDSHIP of MAGIC! Why? That's a question to solve.
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She never loved making friends. She loved "manipulating" friends.
0 likesI always thought that queen chrysalis was the most sympathetic villain. While others wanted power, she just wanted to feed her people.
4 likesOmg reformed Crisalis is so beautiful
3 likesThere is no hope only despair-
0 likesso much fun
0 likesnoone littrely noone
1 likeCHRYSALIS LOOKS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRETTY
Make a video about Twilight's dark side and what is a dark side's name and look
0 likesSawtooth: makes theory
4 likesProducers: lEtS dEbUnK tHiS tHeOrY
Sawtooth: my theory has been debunked
Pharynx and Diamond Tiara, Villains Reforming Inc.
0 likesNo but seriously yeah
Hold on what about the big fluffy unicorn dancing on rainbows??
0 likesHow can you not believe that this will be true love and happiness for the future is possible and really possible 🤗😁
0 likesI'm angry that the creators are turning a great show into a gimmick with the new series coming out, that's what they did with Teen Titans.
0 likesPossibilities of being Reformed.
14 likesTirek:0%
Cozy Glow:30%
Chrysalis:40%
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0 likesReforming chrysalis the queen of changeling
0 likesDid anyone notice that pharynx was named after the scientific name of throat
0 likesOk ok ! YOU may be right! HE can change Chrysalis!! But let me think about Chrysalis.Where did she first appreal from??Of course Canterlot Weeding!But why she mark only Cadence and pretended Cadence!!Maybe she love.....Shining Armor!! Just kidding! Ok!Just want to attack Canterlot??I don't think so.I guess; Chrysalis has her LOVER!"Chrysalis has lover"don't tell me crazy!Think!!She's a queen ok then how she produce an Changelings army without a male support.Ok you can tell it can be made Changelings army with magic.I don't think so.Because there is no magic like that.isn't it??I know MLP is just a cartoon!! But think deeply!!But you can ask me if she has a lover then why she is so evil and ruthless? Ok!!Then let me ask you a question!! If your lover die; how will you feel? Heart broken!isn't it? Ok here's question!Did someone do to her lover?With heart broken; Chrysalis can't control her feelings and want to revenge everyone who have been in love because of that she attack Canterlot to absorb every pony's love and want to know them how she truely felt!! "Geez you gonna make a movie??" Don't ask me like that! I can prove!! At Canterlot wedding:Chrysalis sung about .......ok stop right there" there is no ROOM IN MY HEART!!there you go!! I saw what you explain that in other video Sawtooth Waves!!OK I agree it! but I have another thought!She has no room in her heart that's it!!Because of her lover was dead and she can't replace anyone else to her lover.She replaced her room with her children Changelings army!!But Starlight Glimmer destroy everythig she has has:even her love ; everything so because of that she really want to revenge Starlight badly!When Starlight ask Chrysalis to be the leader of Changelings she refused because the Changelings were known about love and friendship.And this is the most fear she has.SHE IS Evil because she thought that friendship is destroying everything;her children,her love everything and the main is no pony ever know how she truly felt!!That's my thought!! I will tell it again. That's my thought only!!!
1 likeHasbro: This isn't Steven Universe.
0 likesMe: FACTS!
Imagine Cozy glow being Celestias secret daughter o.O
6 likesalways thought chrysalis was hot
0 likesWhat if sombra was still here …
0 likesWait Christmas is actually a pony that got really mad then turned in to a mean changing she is a pony but evil 🦄🦹🏿♀️
0 likesI have not seen my little pony in years, why was this actually decent MLP video in my recommended? LOL
0 likesNeed to watch past season 2... I disconnected, but this seems deep.
0 likesBut fr Chrysalis refornes is toooo pretty
0 likesWhy dose Chrysalis remind me of Queen wasp from WoF
0 likesI really like watching my little pony but I haven't watched it in a while I guess I should watch it......... peace!
0 likesYou will need to do Cozy Glow last she is too much of a risk
5 likeswhat is the name of the melody that was in the background at the beginning?
0 likesI thought maybe twilight could reform them and then if they don’t reform and the only thing I can say well I don’t know I’ll say that in your next video.
1 likeReform her!
0 likesWell theres a way to reform tirek: do what the punisher does all the time Aka at the barrel of a gun (note: I'm just fucking around)
0 likesI wish that could happen if I give them my legend element when they're like friendly they would actually know the magic of friendship my pony is the princess of helping the princess of helping would help
0 likesWhat would happen if the villains came good
0 likesHello i have a question..
0 likesWhat happened to Cozy Glow.
She didn't show up in the future.
What if she get free?
Or something?
the princesses do be imprisoning a literal child doe
0 likesDid anyone hear how he said “yoshi dark lord” so deeply than the others and he’s facial expression changed?
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No when?
1 likeNear end
0 likesUh no she’s the queen, she won’t be second rank when she is the true queen. Thoraxe can be the adviser but he shall not be above the queen
0 likesI would like to see all of there back stories
1 likeIs Tirek a Centaur?
0 likesI actually wrote a story about Chrysalis’ reformation thanks!
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I wanna see it
1 likeSawtooth waves is my favorite MLP character
5 likesYeah because it doesn’t last that long just like discord maybe they already escaped I think that’s gonna be a season 10 I hope there is a season 10
1 likePut them all in a resident Evil 4 play.
1 like2:19 Why does he look so confused XD
3 likeswhere can i watch the new mlp season?
0 likesi cant find it on netflix
*Twilight Sparkles a year after freeing Chrysalis*
35 likesTwilight: I can't believe she killed Thorax...
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Shining after three months: I can't believe she can't see why her hive chooses Cinnamon Toast Crunch!
2 likes@Reiterpallasch cinnamon and sugar in every bowl. It's almost magical
2 likesSometimes she is a bad mother but she does have over 100 kids so it could be stressful
0 likesChrysalis should not be reformed
0 likesBecause as she said
She saw the
Changelings turn into weekling
My little pony in a nutshell 👌
0 likesWhy couldn’t you do the same thing as ferret because you saw the same thing for a friendship unless you’re in a different timeline why didn’t I think of that earlier
0 likesis it just me or douse reformed Chrysalis look like a Silkwing?
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1 I'm a Carmen sandiago fan to. 2 what's a silkwing?
5 likesButterfly Monarch it’s a wings of fire thing
8 likesOh my gosh ur right, I never noticed that!
5 likes@strawberri Wings of Fire? I'm gonna have to check that out! Thank you!
4 likesButterfly Monarch EYYY CARMEN SANDIEGO
1 likeYes, it’s the first thing I thought
1 likeEmma N. I think she looks like a cross of Celestial and Silverstream.
3 likes...she does!
1 likeWait you’re right.
0 likesfrom Wings of Fire? A little bit
0 likesLol all off them look like Silkwings, except for Pharynx cause no black
0 likeschyric said that bcoz she is a changeling if the other should. friendship like thorax brother and be will be a good changelling
0 likesBut like how is tyreck going to be reformed
0 likesChrysalis wasn't even that bad of a queen,she prioritize her hive and give them love but she probably didn't know where to get love for her hive and maybe because of her physical appearance no one would give her love so she took it,and by experience i would be angry to if I built something and then someone just takes it away from me like it's nothing and the millions of creatures I created turned their backs on me because the other person is a "better leader"
0 likesDiscord:i dont turn ponies into stone
0 likesCozy glow: a peagasi pony
OwO dont trust that liar
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Well he doesn't turn innocent ponies to stone
0 likesThere is no chance that we see Chrissy being reformed unless G5 is continueing G4 but like 1000 years in the future. At least there is hope if the very last scene of G4 actually showed us the new Mane 6. Until then, we have to suffer with Calarts Life.
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Everyone died. The end.
1 likeIf thorax is the new leader..... how does he lay eggs
0 likesugh im so sad it’s over
0 likesyeah! I think theres a way to reform tirek and cozy! ☹️😾 not because you did with Chrisalis...…
0 likesI so agree.....Thorax is a good guy....changeling😅But i feel like reformed chrysalis would be a better leader of the changelings
0 likesShe's pretty when she's not evil
65 likesThen again everyone's pretty no matter what so
2:32
0 likesBc she lost everything Bc of the pernceses thats y whan a word like friendship remembered of her losing every things she had :(
What if Crystalis has a good side like queen luna and celestial has a dark side what if they have a good side think of it
0 likesHey can you video the unicorn magic because if you see closly unicorn using magic before twilight became a princess it wasn't a colour aura but twilight's cutimark just watch when raity cut her tail in season 1 and twilight in mare duwell
0 likesput a spela wich makes her chang like vr glasses
1 like👑cool
0 likesIn which season did they release?
0 likesWill u make theories when the next season comes out
0 likesCool🤩😎
1 likeI want to say to every one Celestia is best princess 😤😀
0 likesAnd then she marries Fluffle Puff
0 likesThe end
Also also ever since the ponies tought the the other cultures including the changelings have copied the ponies holidays to🧐
0 likesI wish this actually happened in season 10. IF THERE WAS ONEEEEE 😖😖😖😖😭😭😭😭😭😭
0 likeschrysalis is like the one villain in mlp who will never want to be good
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But if Thorax and his brother can help Chrysalis maybe she can find a way to redeem herself from staying away from her old self.
6 likesWhy did he tackle Chrysalis first?
1 likeh e ' s a c h a n g e l i n g
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0 likesrightWAIT A SEC HE'S BACKK
0 likesWho was cozy glow again? Hahaha sorry for my bad memory. I haven’t watched this in a few years
0 likesНичего не понятно, но очень интересно
0 likesheyy! im pretty new to this fandom, and i literally need some help. what communities should i join? should i make ocs? should i watch the full lore of mlp before watching the whole series or after? sorry if im annoying btw!
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Watch the full mlp!!
1 likeIt’s amazing
1 likeAnd will help you understand more
0 likesYup, also, watching analysis videos made by the brony community is a next step
0 likesAfter that you've got tons of fanmade content, i.e. fanfics (fimfiction.com), music, pmvs, art, animations and more
0 likesThis channel was my first introduction to the fandom, you can also check out the likes of Dr wolf if you haven't already
0 likesWell. For all of those who watched as new content came out, we did what we could and had fun with it! Take your time with the series season by season and if you feel like it, come join some brony communities and make some content to add to the Fandom! This fan base never really dies so you should get some admirers for your work (again if you do happen to make any)
1 likeSorry thats so long oof
The community is very welcoming to everyone, you can be an artist if you want, or animator, voice actor, musician, and anything in between or beyond. OCs are optional, and if you just want to watch, that's fine too
1 likeWelcome to the mlp community, and wishing you a wonderful stay!
1 like@Awesome Geek/ Sunshine I wholeheartedly agree!
1 likeokay! thank yall so much! 💕
0 likesI think you’re right
0 likesjust show them Morbius (2022) it will change there lifes
1 likeWhere do you find these episodes are they on Netflix
0 likesSure celestia is twilight's mentor BUT CELESTIA IS PRINCESS TWILIGHT SPARKLE'S REAL MOTHER!)
0 likesThey can make a lot of troopers kill each other so if you kill or take them prisoners to save to cost a lot of people and sadness to there families if you make a video on that it will be great it could change my mind
7 likesI don't think it would work due to starlight glimmer
0 likesMlp is sooooooooooooooooo great and awesome and amazing and cool y'all and super duper extra great
0 likesnever knew MLP had ethnical genocide
0 likesI have no clue why, but near the end of this video I started laughing quite evilly for absolutely no reason...
1 likeGrogar should have been the real Grogar, not Discord disguised.
13 likesYou should open a school about my little pony
1 likeWe won’t be ever be able of see 🥺 the series it’s sadly over
0 likesYou are the best
0 likesYour like the mat pat of ponies
0 likesThe problem here is her grudge against Starlight. You'd need to redirect that into something less... violent. She can still seek 'revenge' on Starlight, but in more socially acceptable ways. I can invisage a scenario where Chrysalis tries to destroy the School of Friendship by founding her own school, or by campaigning against it. She can still be 'reformed' in that scenario, but still be a jerk, the way Discord and frankly Starlight often are. (Though the show's downplaying of Starlight's flaws, which were her most interesting character trait, are another whole discussion.)
13 likesHmmm, I could also see a scenario where Pharynx is made her jailer/guard and goes along with some of what she wants while also talking up the advantages. While it is a common fan wank that first-stage Changeling hunger is what drives them, it's also indisputable disadvantageous. That same hunger also clouds rational thought, and increases the risk of starvation. Tranformed/reformed Changeling feeding is much more sustainable.
Side-note: Changeling 'reformation' only makes sense if they were some magically-created species, such as they were portrayed in the comics, or as the popular 'love poison princess' theory has it. Otherwise, wouldn't they have already known about that? Or at least Chrysalis would have, and she seemed as surprised as anyone else.
Pharynx is the best avenue, though I've seen one fanfic ("What did I do to deserve this?") that came up with another one. Now it was human in equestria, but it doesn't have to be. The point of it was that it gave her a reliable, useful minion that she came to care about due to those traits. She then risked her own life to save him, without really thinking, and changed as a result. That is also a reasonable path.
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i cant find that fanfic could you link me to it?
0 likes@CaptainOpvious https://www.fimfiction.net/story/460833/what-have-i-done-to-deserve-this
0 likes@Professor Haystacks thank you
0 likesYou T posing is something i did not know needed
0 likesCall me Max the Lady-class engine
0 likesDid anyone else think about LPS when they heard the music in the beginning?
1 likeSawtooth how about king sombra a will like to see him reform
0 likesReformed crysalis is adorable
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I really want chrysalis to get reformed
2 likes@Jariatu Bangura we all do!
0 likesWell, discord was more nicer than chrysalis. Even when cozy glow and tirek had worked together to get the bell, chrysalis got angry. This will never happen what chrysalis was reformed.
3 likesQueen Chrysalis is cute pony °3°
0 likeswhy did mlp end i love it check out pony life
0 likesi like it
0 likesMlp : The show Ended
7 likesSawtooth:
Not for me
Changelings are actually abandon fairies no they’re not bugs
0 likesWait can changelings leaving out chriselis out but if so why haven’t we seen them do it
0 likesIn a episode cozy glow was nice to tirex and chriysleis so if she acts nice to villains why don’t she be reformed and be nice to everyone instead
0 likescrisalis look sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better reformed
0 likesI am sorry but I like crysaliz in her original black form
1 likeI prefer she is just like the one villain that never gets redeemed and just stuck in stone.
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Also is it really necessary to force to do friendship? Like as long as shes not evil and does not turn into nazi germany is it not fine?
0 likesNO SAWTOOTH CRISALIS IS EVIL
0 likesOk queen chrysalis when she reform looks beautiful and colorful and lovely but before...ugly :/
0 likes“ chrysilis reforms “
99 likesMe : oh no, she is Ugly WHY IS SHE- OH NO OH DEAR GOD NO-
My sis : shes-
Bootiful.
:>
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I agree with you. I feel like the reformed changeling designs are too pastel and bright compared to their original colors. I think reformed Chrysalis should keep her main color scheme, with more colors that make it clear she’s changed but that are still grounded in her older design. Probably a combination of blues, greens, and purples.
19 likes@Element’s Fanfics kinda like Thoax ,he kept his colors but still reformed and looked bootiful.
9 likesAnd Apparently, Boys Go To Jupiter To Get "Stupider" ._.
0 likes@BluekidRcat_MinxTheRabbit o-o no he didn't
0 likesIs your sister really said that?🤔
0 likesWas chrysalis always a changing?
0 likesDoes anyone noticed that she is a ali-corn?? She has a horn she has wings too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!which means she was the old queen with king sombra(idk how to spell that) the thing was
1 likeBoth of them ruled the pony world but soon after celestia and luna were born a ali-corn they knew they will become the princess
Did anyone noticed that celestia and luna aren't QUEENS!!!which means there's a secret queen
This is my theory
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C-Conspirology
0 likesI know y she a bad guy its bc she knows nothing About friendship so they should teach her about it!
1 likeSawtooth Waves? I thought you were called Brony Notion
0 likesYou can't reform Tirek, I'm sorry. He's the closest this series has to Satan, and can yoou reform Satan? Wellll...maybe?
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Your grammer
3 likesI imagine that Tirek's reform will be based around his relationship with his brother Scorpius, which seems to be a point of contention for his character.
13 likesEatornator3000 imagine not spelling “grammar” right
9 likesYou can if his brother who could also absorb magic he can.
2 likes@Josie Thomas It is "kinda canon" that Scorpan also had the same ability than Tirek.
3 likesIn the original script for the MLP MOVIE (2017); the Storm King obtained the Staff of Saccanas from an eldery King Scorpan who became too weak & frail to handle all the magic he accrued over the years (he had it stored inside the staff instead of his body).
-> To avoid that power getting in the hands of an evil "Maffia Boss" Yeti, Scorpan send the magic "to another world" as a last resort (it would explain the weird implied "backstory" in the Equestria Girls special "Spring Breakdown").
@eatornator3000 are you being ironic
1 likeSatan is able to be reformed back into an angel, it's just that he doesn't want to nor does he plan to. Satan is more of an evil ruler than a dude who's willing to do anything. With Tirek, you have a point. He's the kid-friendliest Satan can get, and he's unable to be reformed, no matter how hard people may try.
1 likeNO,that wrong! There is possibility to reform Tirek! I say this like Tirek
0 likesWith God's 2020 plan, I'm pretty sure Satan can be reformed, therefore Tirek can be reformed-
0 likes@dog Well corona is ruining our lives and god has created it so maybe he has more time to think about the plan to reforming him
0 likesI was hoping Scorpan & Star Swirl would reunite or Twilight would go to Scorpan's kingdom.
0 likesThere are people who believe Satan can be reformed.
1 like🍀
0 likesLove how this guy added a flower to his ponies hair and then claimed to be "nonbinary". 🤣
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it was more the other way around, where i realized i was nonbinary and wanted a way to express that without commissioning new stills. it's done me really well but im considering redesigning soon! ^^
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Why do you think you're nonbinary though?
0 likes@Carolyn i vibe with femininity a lot in like, a gender way. not a woman tho, it's complicated!
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Feminity is not attached to gender though? All because you're a feminine man doesn't mean you're nonbinary.
0 likes@Carolyn im not a man either. that's how i know im nonbinary
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Why do you say that? How do you know?
0 likes@Carolyn i just dont fit into that category!
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves There is no category for men (or women!). There is no right or wrong way to be a man or woman. I think you need to give this a lot more thought and reason. You're acting like you have to be a walking stereotype of a man to be one.
0 likes@Carolyn it's a lot more complicated than that, just trust me when i say i have given it much thought. feminine men exist, but i am not one of them. that's about all i have to say, might be good to read up on nonbinary identities to learn more, i cant speak for everyone
0 likesFluffle puff would be pround
0 likesI think you are right though I still have some questions
0 likesI wish that'll happen :((
0 likesAnd besides; who is going to lay eggs for the hive ? Not Thorax that's for sure
0 likesYou wonder where are Cozy Glow's parents. If she had good parents to keep her in check, then she is probably the most able to be reformed
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How do we know if her parents even cared about her?
0 likes@Reese Well, as I said, IF she had good parents. But we mostly see her on her own, so either her parents are caring but ignorant of their child's personality sending her away, uncaring and abusive which may led Cozy to believe friendship is power (because it is something she lacked and heard stories how Twilight and her friends used it), or her parents are dead.
0 likesHumans: why my Little pony called my Little pony?
1 likeMe: cause it about Twilight since she a Little pony
≤:(
Humans: ohhhh
2.40
5 likesSawtooth: DA MAGIC OF FRIEND🛳(SHIP) IS A DISEASE! AN INFECTION THAT SPREADS TO THOSE AROUND YOU! I WATCHED IT INTECT MY HIVE(HOUSE)! I WILL NOT LET IT GET MEH!
meh: you mean Corona right? Friend~
Sawtooth: GET OUT!
meh: WHAT WHY?!
Sawtooth: YOU ARE SPREADING FRIENDSHIP SO NOW GET OUT!
Meh: oh ok
Also meh: wait where is the door
So chrysalis would kinda be the changling queen and thorax the king or prince??????????? (5:02 and 5:13)
0 likesThorax can reform Chrysalis
0 likes!!!!!!
Wooooooooow😀😀
0 likesReform Sombra
0 likesI feel like chrysalis is too stubborn to think about friendship so it might not work :/
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Everyone has its weakness at given time she'd come through
0 likesHmmm... thinks ...math checks out. Also this is why Therenx is best changling. Second is Osalis.
0 likesYa I'm not sure it will be that easy
0 likesPony be like:
0 likesDiscord:makes their world crazy like FNAF lore:THE FREIND OF MAGIC IS WITHIN YOU (your free)
Child who removes magic from villains and hero’s:YOU WANNA SEE WHAT WE DID TO WILLIAM AFTON (FNAF is gorey so why not use it)
Wow
1 likeNice
20 likesTo bad there won't be king sombra anymore
0 likesERASE THEIR MEMORIES
0 likesur forgetting shes damn stubborn and how pharynx was hated
0 likesCall me weird, but i don't like new chanchelings design
0 likesI like the Old design =<
Let's all be thankful for a moment that you don't have to turn down your audio before the inevitable
14 likesFRIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNDDDDSSSS
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was that too loud? oops
5 likesActually they dosent have a Culture bc remember they dont celebrate events like bday , or parties i kinda think 🤔
0 likesAm i the only one that noticed that the changeling names so far in mlp, is related to a bug?
0 likesSince when did Discord get so it’s power
0 likesThis guy is basically the My Little Pony version of Matpat
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Yep
1 likeI love how you chose chrisalis first but i do think it is the case you just chose her because you are a changeling
3 likesI thought this brony businesses was dead. Its interesting
0 likesНи фига не поняла, но так интереснооооо
0 likesFLIRY HEART
0 likeschange chrysalis name crystal sine
1 likeThe army knows how to get too the pony land
5 likeschrsalys is sad cause she dosent have friends or her army
0 likesI think she should still be queen and that's a reason why she would not reform
0 likesI have to save my queen
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Save de queen
1 likewe have to save the queen
1 likeWait right the mane 6 want to end the villians why cant they just turn them into stones and then break them and villians usally want to kill the heros and also I never want the villians to die because its so fun to see them fight 😊
0 likesI like the theory behind however there is the revenge of Starlight Glimmer that you forgot to mention so what about that
37 likesWhy are their no Kirin in the finale...???
0 likesChrysalis is right when she says friendship is a disease it does make peeps weak but it also helps others mentally and yes it can be strong too but it makes you sad at times which make you sad for awhile which will make you not want to fight or be strong…it’s a ticking time bomb that has a 5050 % chance of not exploding
0 likesChrasalis looks so Beautiful last time
0 likesyeah no one of them is a child 🧍♂️🧍♂️
0 likesI feel like Chrysalis is going to marry thorax
3 likesThis version îs Celestias Childhood Friend
0 likeswas there such an episode 1:28
2 likesI think all she needs is fluffle puff XD https://www.youtube.com/user/FluffyMixer
0 likesPinkie:pointing at me saying what do you think
0 likesMe:trys to high five pinkie lol
Wait what if Chrysalis was in a ancient race that went extinct from a monster that will show in the futuree
0 likesok so i know that this has nothing to do with this vid but i have to get this off my chest rainbow dash is the real prices
0 likesOnly reform Chrysalis.
0 likesMake her property of Fluffle Puff.
I can't be reformed I'm cursed and I don't want to be reformed to be honest
0 likesUse a powerful jelly give them it and ya
0 likesAre all the new 6 animals, kids of the Yaks,dragons,ponies,changing and the other one?
0 likesLmao the music the he used for the first part reminded me of seven super girls
0 likesMy little Pony Friendship is Magic is finished with complete and no longer works idea.
0 likesI haven’t been on this channel in a long time. It used to be called, “TheBronyNotion”. I saw that they changed it.
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Yo same
3 likesYup
1 likesamee
1 likeWAIT H E S THE BRONY NATION OMG
0 likesSame here yo
0 likesЯ закохалася в добру Кризаліс😍
0 likesWow
0 likesThat was good
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yo did amazing
0 likesMake a new videos on what will the villain s look like unveil?! PLZ I love you vidZ?!!?
0 likes"Seeing fearsome soldiers turning into docile changelings"
23 likesMe: Docile WEEBS
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i like this. I'm something of a weeb myself btw. 😆😅
1 likeIf she saw the whole "Feelings Forum" crap from To Change A Changeling, she would most likely go even more insane.
1 like@night shroud96 basically dropping the sun on them.
0 likesI hoping that the mean 3 reforming in 5th genration just like discord with mane 6
0 likesPinkie Pie- Hey Spike I got a to tell you.
0 likesSpike- Ok Pinkie I’m ready.
Pinkie Pie- Why did 👑 Chrysalis go to Zecora?
Spike- 🤷♂️.
Pinkie Pie- To see if she has hives!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Spike- Ohhhhhhhhh I get it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
is that true crestalis is bing a good
0 likesCan you put a video of reform T-Rex
1 likeHive: screeching
22 likesChrysalis: ears bleeding
Chrysalis: dies
Hive: the power of screeches
Please make a video of friends
1 likeHey twilight I may be able to help with reforming queen Cryssalys
0 likesThis comment is like 1 year late but idc
1 likeIf phorax doesnt work we can always get fluffle puff
i luv queen cisins
0 likesSawtooth waves: *Talks about this*
10 likesHasbro: wRiTe ThIs DoWn!!!!
I want something can you look into something where I was watching on space becomes drain one then gives it to Amber in Amber doesn't know what a hug is but but gargoyle does is is a Amber does not as is Amber does on educating as much or is gargoyle hiding something from us
1 likeIf performing one of the reforms all of that because they were together.
2 likesme:Hmm…….how did equastira come to be
1 likeSawtooth:I have a video about that!
Me:Who is discord?
Sawtooth:(takes out a 1,000,00 videos)
me:😲😲😲😬😬😬😮😮😮
What did cozy glow do?
0 likesI’d say the reason chrysalis wouldn’t want friendship is cause...that’s what a bad guy would say and she’s completely crazy
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Garf head and pals yeah I now noticed that and how if pharynx reformed her which I think is a great theory
0 likesWhos the pink pony?
0 likesI've never seen her
I smell great fanfictans
0 likesEu não sou mais esses dois em pessoas boas
0 likesChrysalis is sad :(
1 likelook at title
20 likestake off glasses
* reform Chrysalis*
*put on glasses *
* don’t Reform chrysalis*
*take off glasses *
REFORM CHRYSALIS
Me: What is this a joke?
Changlings lost there identity’s, ironic
0 likes2:17 Yes tackle T-pose
0 likesWhat they could change?
1 likeI Agree On it
0 likesWell I think Queen chrysalis will never turn good Because it will not put action into the show
0 likesNice
0 likescylis nice the out side pet the in side
1 likehello evil
What about all the Magic get together
1 likeThe fact this channel is still uploading surprises me.
3 likesMaybe but how about the villains
0 likeswhat about king ?
0 likeswow
0 likeshay can you draw me as a crystel sorry for spellings but as a crystel princes alicorn i love your vids
0 likesYouTube: Puts this in my recommendations
3 likesMe: Huh, I should probably tell it not to do this, I haven't been in the MLP fandom since 2016
Also me: Watches it anyway
Now that you mention the changelings new leaders bother I'm not even trying to remember some and try to spell the rest I just noticed that there all like siblings because of chrysalis she is the channeling mom wow I'm surprised someone or somepony???????? Just somepony ok that's it what even is chrysalis just someone?like here can even have kids even if it's for I don't know, this
0 likestwilight the pick me girl
0 likesNo please just do the dragons
0 likesReformed Chrysalis could even marry Thorax.
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Thorax is her biologically mother (not approved, but) or be like stepmother, that's gross. But if in parallel universe...
0 likesChrysalis reformed? That’ll be the day. Maybe in a special or movie.
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That actually could be a good idea for a movie where they're trying to reform them
1 like@Bottlenose Cactus, i wish!
0 likesand he was reformed
0 likesCool
1 like5:08 Soldier leader
0 likes4:46 Okay so maybe a Farrinx X Chrissy fan fiction?
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No
1 like@Garvityツ shhhh
0 likes@LiterallyPip stop you're giving them ideas
0 likesThat intro tho
3 likesI love rainbow dash
0 likesI love youuuuuuuuuuuu
0 likescan no one spell Pharynx in the comments?!?
0 likesgood thinking sawtooth wave
0 likesCozy could have been reformed I mean they should have given her some backstory.
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Thank you for finally getting that we should learn about her past and not just say new villain ok turn to stone next season wtf more like
0 likes@Bloody Dragon
0 likesWhat should they have done?? She wasn't going to stop so they could learn about her. This was the best thing they could have done at the time....
not really when you think about it
0 likesYes 👍🏽
1 likeI think your right
0 likesIs cozy glow sisters with flurry heart
1 likeYea who the hell is going lay eggs for the changelings anyway They'll just disappear extinction
0 likeschrysalis will look soo beautiful if she changes
5 likesIs crisalist thorax mom?
0 likesCompensating for something with that horn?
0 likesyou are correct
0 likesWhat dose sandbars cutiemark mean
0 likesI tirek can be reformed because why he’s doing evil because he think he’s not going enough To please his father
7 likesLook Cozy Is Evil
0 likesI haven’t seen the entire series since I watch on Netflix so how could I watch the entire thing?
0 likesWhy is there no Queen of Equestria? just a bunch of princesses
0 likesReforming christmas
0 likesMaybe they get reformed in the season 10 idw comics or the 2021 mlp fim movie... But i hope chrysalis stays evil she is the best villian in mlp fim
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I prefer cozy glow. She's my favorite type. Hidden in plain sight
4 likesI prefer King sombra
1 like1. Nightmare moon a alicorn failed to accomplish anything twice. King sombra a unicorn turned himself to a king and ruled with a iron fist.
2. Discord took the elements of harmony only to give it back. King sombra took the crystal heart and hid it behind traps.
3. Queen chrysalis tried to take over a castle with an army and failed. King sombra took over an entire empire on his own.
alsooooo lore thing discord and flutter shy gets together soooo yeahhh-
0 likesYo what if Queen Chyraslis (and the other villains) reacted to this?
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Sawtooth Waves would be dead where he stands.
1 like🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏🏏
1 likeThat will be in the future in season 14 2045 flag ball and ponys
0 likesWow your so smart
0 likesbros created a whole new episode
0 likescozy cow
0 likesQueen chrysalais was not always mean...
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until princess cadence took shining armor from her.
1 like2:38 CORONAA IS THAT YOUUU!!!!!!
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wear a mask so you don't catch the magic of friendship
9 likes@Sawtooth Waves 😂😂😂
2 likesOr at least you won't be fined
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves oof😂😂😂
0 likesI luv it♡♡♡
0 likeshow do you drawl your one pony
0 likesGoodness, I forget how many edelords are fans of mlp. Those patrons names sent me. I respect them for supporting you when I can't, but geeze.
2 likesARE YOU SURE?
0 likesWhat is evil?
0 likesEveryone: “FIRST”
52 likesMe: “Just watch the video!”
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I know no one cares if you are first
6 likesHamilton ! Exactly
5 likesSorry...
5 likes• B o b a c h a n • Oh god I’m so sorry, I didn’t mean to insult anyone, I just wanted to say that to the people who are likely to argue who’s first
4 likes• B o b a c h a n • yeah I just meant it is annoying when people argue over a pointless like being first
3 likesFirst
4 likesFirst
First
First
First
First
First
First
First
Fist
I want people to say second because second is good too
3 likesIt's ok I just do it randomly
3 likesHamilton ! Any number is good honestly it doesn’t matter. I don’t want to upset anyone, but some usually the person who’s actually first doesn’t say first
3 likes• B o b a c h a n • I’m glad I didn’t upset you
2 likesI haven't watched it yet😂
0 likesI think We should do that
0 likesI saw the mlp ending......and nobody was reformed, besides discord
0 likesAnd have a redemption ark and Its an orphan however this version îs an Ace Combat charachter than an EQG one Belkan have blonde Green eyes shes played by Anna de Armas
0 likesWait isint crisalis TEACNICLY AN ALACORN
0 likesTbh reforming discord started in like season 3- and he still let sombra chrysalis cozyglow and tirek back in the last season soooo reforming 3 other villains who are wayyyyy worse would take tooooooo many seasons....
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well the thing is to be fair discord has a different mindset because he inherently thinks chaotically on some level
2 likes@Fresh2000 ZCORD yea and he was reformed he did something good
0 likesThey came back but that's a GOOD thing
0 likesWho was adopte by Hydra Madame Hydra and Baron Zemo
0 likesDid you know that thorax was named after the bugs middle part the thorax?
1 likeI actually hate discord now for doing this to em
0 likesCan somebody make a video in gacha that chrysalis reacts to this????
0 likescool
0 likesLegendary Paco Taco
0 likesAre you still going to make videos?I was wondering because my little pony is over
3 likesOMG
0 likesMake a vid about human reformed crisilis
0 likesWait Wait Wait i know thorax he has a brother named pharyrn i don.t know how to spell it tne name is hard okay
1 likeWhat would you look like as a change and I’m not a changing like the them???
0 likesRefrom sombra
0 likesYesterday was the anniversary of this video
0 likeswhy are changelings named after respiratory organs
0 likesThis ending is better for chrisalis
0 likesMovie Sonic: that’s my girlfriend twilight sparkle
3 likesBy princess
0 likesTiara
Short answer: Fluffle Puff.
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Not canon to the show.
0 likesIts a good fury butttttt i think if she never came back she be like UMMMMM YEAH LM THE QUEEN BOW DOWN BICH or the change wings would want there old queen back or even Franck and crshlish will marry!?¿
0 likesThis good
0 likesHowdy yall
157 likesWho are you
I’m chrysalis
Attacks them
Reforms
Never mind
Idk
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XD
1 like2021
2 likes?
2 likesLol, ur not actually Crystalis right?
0 likesI read it backwards and it made more sense than reading it forwards
0 likesI mean she maybe mad at Princess cadence
1 likeNot gonna lie, Sawtooth, u being Matpat 2.0
0 likesMaybe she misses her kids 😕 😔
0 likesI thought you were Thorax
0 likesI feel like chrysalis could’ve deserved better I can agree with this reform idea
3 likesTwilight:*smartest pony in series*
1 likeEverybody else:*literally way smarter than her*
XD
난 그중간이 좋음
0 likes해지면서 달뜨는거나 달지면서 해뜨는거
OMAY but heres anoutherthing
0 likeswhen crysalis first faced of at the cristal wedding against celestia celestaia stoped wit like guilt so they dont have a past it got me wondering what if There was anouther side to crysalis we all now now when changelings share love they change but were they like that and turned bad? Im not sure im 11 i dont have enough brains but what if crysalis new celestia? just brain storming why did she stop or bigger how dose she now her? just like luna went evil maybe crisalist was like the changlings we new today A LONG TIME AGO and new the sisters maybe they said somthing or maybe the sister were at the crystal plice when kt happend and so she formed a grudge take love STORING it for herself becuse they didnt love her? Like a student THINK ABOJT THAT FOR WON MOMENT
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YEAH IK LONG TIME AGO
But ive never seen somebody say that
if u think about it credit me as "isparaition - cOmMeNt" lol
i don't agrea, nothing in Chrysalis actions said anything about culture being the problem. that statement about friendship being a disease, yes can be interrupted a cultural issues, but it seam more like Chrysalis is a x quean, that doesn't want to actually have to consider what is best for her people, she seams to be protecting herself more than her hive to mean. her violent outbursts at the idea of friendship along wither her completely dismissive language used when speaking of friendship, speaks to me of a childhood trauma that has compounded over her life time. ading in that friendship is literally food for them for most of the series,
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the problem with her is she simply refuses to ever change she just wants power
0 likesI believe that queen Chrysalis can be reformed just like discord
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Rocky? What are you doing in MLP? Aren't you from Paw Patrol? Xd
5 likes@Tomáš Dimitrov I'm just a brony like you
2 likesLol XD anyway I think that theres always a chance to start again
1 likeNO.
2 likes@Tab Doma fine I will delete my account dose that make you happy
1 like@Tab Doma What? What is your problem? If you want to act like this, than go away
0 likesI don't. She's far too stubborn and power hungry.
0 likesDiscord is the powerfull one he ccan make chrysalis be norrmal again
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0 likesOh- cause why is reformed chrysalis kinda cute?
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WAIT I DONT MEAN IN A HOT WAY I MEAN AS IN A NEWBORN PUPPY WAY
0 likesyes yes cool
0 likesChrysalis is scared of corona. So she treats friendship like corona. Simple. How do I know? I have a way of jumping through dimensions.
6 likesWhat would happen if you Teleported behind twilight
0 likesI am like her Scorpio
0 likesWow what a long horn
0 likesIsolated, hmmm
2 likesInteresting choice of word. 😑
Ok so sawtooth is a changeling??? Then why does he stay a pony instead a changeling?? I'm 8 so I don't know
0 likesimmm happyyy yayyy
0 likesI never saw that changeling I didn't saw season 7 or 8 or 9
0 likesbecause they were not even there
reforming sombra how
0 likesIf you don’t no what I am saying it is a cannon see the other show that is cannon
6 likesExcept the show is over and gen 5 is a reboot
0 likesThe evil queen was nice but no one nos why she’s mean now but me she’s mean because of the mane six
0 likesDis-cord WAIT A MINUTE
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yes 😊
0 likesI'm first to see my changeling friend sawtooth waves
4 likesWait there more episodes NOOO WAY NETFLIX PNLY HAD SEASONS 1-8 AUGH
0 likesWhen u sed if only we had some sort of- oh wait, I do😏, that was funny and... ironic XD 😝
0 likesI think this because Queen chrysalis may of had a mate changelings aren't like ants ther termites in ants all are female but in termites ther can be both male and female and why didn't chrysalis make a New hive bees don't need males the qeen bee can breed without so is the same for ants so why didn't chrysalis but termites need A king and a qeen to breed in the wedding when we first met the qeen she says here hearts somewhere else I think the male what's wher it whas she may have been so scard of gowing back because the male aka the king may have been mad at qeen chrysalis for faling so she didn't go back and now can't have any subjects
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C-Conspirology.
0 likesSmart
0 likesCan you please send me 💗 video of reforming tirek and cozy glow please sawtooth waves 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
0 likesOops she is Applejack's friend and Applejack is Moonlight's aunt. Moonlight is an 8-yr-old alicorn filly i am her age
0 likesIT WAS SO CLOSE 😂😭😂😭😭😂😂😭😭😁😁😭😂😭😭
0 likesYes yes yes
0 likesHi I'm finally early please reply ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ💜big fan
5 likesJust because she is evil doesn't mean she does not care about her people. Everything and anything she has ever done is only ever being for the sake of her people the changelings. It is in the ways that go about leading people that the problems are to be found. She cared too much for Unity and did not realize that each and every changeling of the hive is in essence their own individual who works part and parcel to the betterment of the group as a whole bunch of individual gears working together in a perfect Machinery of life
0 likesYes I do!
0 likesWhere’s Fluffly Puff?
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likeOmg when I saw this I clicked super fast I’m second
6 likesThere is 1 impostor Among us
1 likeYes but she still well have the but that hrut her soo much losing every things at onec its just hard but she could be a queen
0 likesI. Love
0 likesChrysalis is from fluffle puff
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Chrysalis first appeared in the season 2 finale, A Canterlot Wedding. Flufflepuff came after that.
0 likesYoutube: 39 comments!!!!
12 likesMe: Cool, can I see them?
YouTube: Uhhhhhhhhh no
Me: <Refreshes the page>
YouTube: 👁👄👁
nowtwilte prinnsses then crisles can be fight with twilte so she profromded
0 likesLove you s.
0 likesHey, dint give the writers any ideas!
0 likesReform sombra man
0 likes1:11 False. Celestia and Luna conjured a "banning" spell, we don't know a thing about magic. But who we are to say something like that? They are mere speculations.
3 likesWhy always paco-taco
0 likesyes!!!!
0 likesWait, season 9 came out!?! Where is it!!!! I CANT FIND IT ANYWHERE!?!?!?? 😟😭😭😭
0 likes#Todostemumasegundachanche
0 likesVideo: 10 minutes ago
19 likesMe: :0
Lol they need to social distance
0 likesI honestly don't think you should, don't judge me.
0 likesHydra îs redeemed too în this version
0 likes3 in a row… whoa whoa whoa
0 likesYoutube: no views
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Me: YouTube’s drunk again
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YouTube’s always drunk
3 likesGalaxyGacha tru
2 likesIt also had 7 likes :DDD
1 likeYah
2 likesWhere is queen Chrysalis
1 likeMe: not me ok you: aaaaaaa
0 likesI did not know that is cool
0 likesU TACKLED THEm
0 likesNo views 100+ likes and 12 comments and when I go in the comments I see 1
6 likesCinematical EQG
0 likesThen why discord help to celestia and luna to willans in to stones. He always discord
0 likes“They” we’re not blocking friendship the queen was
0 likesin which episode is crystaline reformed?? i watched all 9 seasons and didnt see her
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Season 10
1 like@RediteLeftTheOvenOn oh i thought there's only 9 seasons
0 likes@RediteLeftTheOvenOn you are a lier lier butterflier I know mlp really well and i have not heard of season 10
0 likes@Deepak Balgi Season 10 was made in the form of comics, but Chrysalis doesn't reform in it.
0 likes@Geppy🌸 There is; season 10 was made into comics.
0 likesFIRST COMMENT
4 likesI would absolutely love to see this!
1 likeLove to see how Tirek might reform
1 likeI really like how you answer questions the best you can because it’s really interesting and fun to watch
0 likesJust discovered this channel. It feels like film theory but with mlp. I love mlp even tho I’m probs too old for it but it’s kinda cool.
1 likeВау! Просто, вау!!! Я хоть и смог лишь немного понять из сказанных слов автора, но общую суть я уловил. Мне этот выпуск очень понравился, и кто бы что ни говорил но Кризалис в новом образе смотрится как... как новая вайфу! (Селестия, Луна, А НУ ОТОДВИНЬТЕСЬ! Вы загораживаете няшную Королеву Кризалис! ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉)
0 likesP.S. А что за музыка играет в конце видео?
P.P.S. Кризалис... КОРОЛЕВА Кризалис, в новом образе не уступает Селестии... а, то и превосходит (͠≖ ͜ʖ͠≖). Ну, это не удивительно. Ведь она же не принцесса, а королева.¯\_( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
It got me thinking about that episode where Thorax learned from the Dragoness leader about being angry isn't always something wrong! Like learning a child with a determend voice that it isn't ok to do that something, whatever the situation now is, like hitting someone.
0 likesReformed Chrysalis is so pretty! :O
0 likesI think its an awesome idea!, I love ur channel!!
0 likesWould love to see that episode! Thank you!
0 likesI suppose the big question in this is...
1 likeWhat is Changeling culture and history? Given the comics are the only canon we have for Changeling past, their entire existence has been subvert, trick, steal love and move on. What was Thorax meant to preserve?
I have a pretty uncommon question:
4 likesWhy are Celestia and Luna titled as Princesses as there's no Queen? I mean, why not queens? We all know before Cadance we got Queen Amore (from comics) so I don't wonder about that. I mean usually, in medieval years, when a family member died, the other generation was getting the name and throne. But since we have no clue who was before them It's kind of confusing. And why queen Chrysalis?
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Omg you read the comics as well then do you know that season 9 was either a fake or rushed a little
1 likeI don't know if this is official, but Celestia and Luna's parents are named Queen Galaxia and King Cosmos. Hope that helped!
2 likes@Bloody Dragon I've heard a bit about it but did not really read comics just the ones that caught my attention.
0 likes@KopiCat Thanks! But apparently neither of them are canon xd
1 likeAlthough I like the idea of the two sisters being useless again and playing no part in the villains' petrification, that doesn't make much sense. One mustn't over-interpret video "footage" of a world of which we have such a biased perception, in which so much is metaphoric.
0 likesI know it’s a theory scenario but reforming the last three villains of the show is a BAD IDEA
1 likeCozy glow will never change
1 likeI gotta say reform chrysalis looks Beautiful and amazing
0 likesLo que siempre me e preguntado.De como Crhysalis se vería como una cambiante buena 😁😁
0 likesI've joined a discussion similar to this on reforming Azula from ATLA, and I'll say pretty much the same thing I said there. Not every villain can, or should, be reformed. Even if they could be, if a show reforms every villain, then where are the consequences of being a villain? Any rando could try to take over the world, and it wouldn't have any consequences because even if you failed, you get to just be a normal member of society again. It'd be like Batman getting rid of Arkham, and just sitting every baddie down when he catches them to give them a stern lesson on making friends instead of trying to destroy Gotham. It just doesn't work.
0 likesShes beautiful :D
0 likesi would love to see all three villians reform
0 likesThat lil drawing of Chrysalis is adorable
0 likes~Reformed~ chrysalis is so cute
1 likei like the new chrysalis !
1 likeChrysalis looked like she was considering the path of friendship at one point. Only her hatred of being bested by Starlight got the better of her. If a different pony (not Twi and co.) said the same speech as Starlight did, I think it would have gone a lot further. Who knows? Chryssy has hinted at underlying issues that point to her motivations, but the show never explored those hints.
0 likesThat reformed chrysalis design is awesome wtf
0 likesThey should have never ended the series knowing how much stuff they could have made Sawtooth please ping this comment love the content bud and keep it up.
1 like3:38 I thought there problem was they couldn't get enough love.
2 likesI used to watch mlp when I was probably 9 and I want them to make another series based on the villains reforming
0 likesother way would be making her reflect that her children are thriving with this new lifestyle than the one she was forcing them to live with as parasites, not only they don't have to fight, die and kill for their survival, they can improve themselves and live longer and happier lives
0 likes"pony colonialism" make it sound a lot more malevolent then was it really was, Pones didn't force their culture on them. it was just the only thing around to fill the void after rejecting Chrysalis. Chrysalis in a way doomed her own culture by making it so centered around her.
0 likesOr, just use actual #RehabilitativeJustice & depetrify them, put them in prison for life & have various counsellors talk to them daily; which is what should've been done with Tirek & Cozy Glow in the 1st place.
0 likesEven if they don't reform, whatever's learned from couselling them can be used in dealing with others initially displaying criminal behaviour.
I don’t think the changelings had a culture beforehand. Every waking moment seems to have been geared towards stealing love and once they didn’t have to do that anymore they realized how little they actually had.
0 likesI am already wondering if there will be a new generation for MLP.
0 likesi like your plan for chrysalis!
0 likesBut wait a sec Discord was reformed with something more than just friendship. Something that we call love. If Fluttershy was not there, he could be not reformed. + He wasn't very evil from start. He was just egoistic and was liking all " fun " things too much, but his " jokes " hurted " another pony. He was not too evil, that why he got reformed.
0 likesHer future may be looking great! But what about tirek? I mean diamond tiara can help cozy, and yeah your right about reforming, Chrysalis, but what about tirek?? I'll be thinking about this for awhile.
0 likesChrysalis looks beautiful in the thumb nail
0 likesI think the name "cozy glow" should be changed to evil glow unless she is reformed
0 likesI love this video i wonder if they were apart and see they're good looks and ways
1 likeI like how you saw that. You make a really good point
1 likeThis man is a literal GENIUS
0 likeschrysaylis im sure she will be reformed under twilight sparkles rule just give her time ps love your channal mr sawtooth waves
1 likeIf Chrysalis is going to be good, please, don't let her look like the rest of em ;_;.
0 likesGood points. MLP season 8 did have issues with some weird writing that suggested pony culture and pony friendship was superior and it felt like the writers were trying to teach a diversity lesson artificially through the other creatures but anytime the MLP writers tackled racism it just didn't work for me. MLP universe just doesn't seem conducive to the judgements found in our human world but your idea could work much better.
0 likesI’m pretty sure my demon changeling friend doesn’t want to see a reformed Chrysalis
0 likes1:42 was Soooo cuteee 😍
1 likeThe best way to reform a morally incorrect person is to go back to the past. You gotta know where you came from to know where you're headed.
0 likesI agree that culture had something to do with it, but Chrysalis was also power hungry. She liked being a figure of authority because that's how it has always been until the hive was shown friendship. Friendship took everything away from her: her authority, her subjects, and yes, as you've said, her culture. So I don't think it's as cut and dry reforming her as you say it is. Yes, Pharynx can help, but that still leaves the fact that she absolutely hates friendship due to what it took away. And it is those feelings that made her the first to deny it when the triad was so close. I mean, the only reason she even worked with Cozy and Tirek was because she knew she couldn't do it alone and the power of the bell was far too tempting to pass up. Not to mention, the destruction of the Mane 6 and company.
1 likeAnd the thing is, Chrysalis is smart. She'll do whatever it takes to get what she wants. Being tricked into accepting friendship is not in the cards. She would definitely see through any ruse, whether intentional or not.
And honestly, the same could be said for any of the three. They are all highly intelligent and that's why them working together was so disastrous for Equestria. They would see through any lie. Even in Cozy's case, she would probably trick you into believing she accepted friendship as they view it, and then stab you in the back and take advantage of that same friendship.
I understand reformation because we all want them to change. But sometimes, some people just can't be saved.
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No changes actually you improve and adapt. The most important thing she will need to learn is regret of caused harm which to achieve you need the right person to handle it and find the that little click every being has inside.
0 likesI think the end result of this reformation path would be spmething similar to equestria at war. A vengful Queen who wants to put down Equestria.
0 likesi disagree. because at the end of the day, chrysi would still have a problem that they are all still submissive to the ponys. she would refuse to be under the ponies thumbs . more lilkly then now she would instead ask them to break away, they can keep their new forms and eating habits, but demand they become independent .
0 likesHiiii I love my little pony I have watch it ever since I was 6 years old and I still watch it but the only thing that sooth waves haven’t done is give it a tutorial about what he uses to make his pony and how to upload and edit please tell us the apps u use I am eager
0 likesPlease send an email to MLP Creators they should make it !!!
0 likesPlease please tell me that there was DEFINITLY some... eyebrow wiggeling between Pharynx and Thorax
0 likesI want too see that form in the show
0 likesI have a question what would discord look like as a human if he went to the human world and by extension what would the villans like cozy tirek chrysalis and the other villans look like if they went to the human world
0 likesI want chrysalis to meet up with the kirens and autumn blaze to tell chrysalis that she should talk a lot and she will be positive and soon cryhsalys to become nice UwU
0 likesYou’re saving your mom first
2 likeschrysalis since you’re a changeling
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I don't think the changeling hive works like a bee hive or a ant colony??? Or does it... Because you see ocellus has parents
1 likeIdk but he said in another or this video he said he was a changeling and also said chrysalis was their mom
1 like@Rat time In the comics she said that they are her children so i think it does work like a colony
0 likesI agree with Pharynx being the one to help her, but he did not throw the "baby out with the bathwater" in the opposite direction. The queen didn't really establish much of a culture for the changelings outside of feeding/obeying the queen. Pharynx and Thorax almost look like the emotions associated with two different endorphins involved in caring/love for others. Thorax seems to lean more towards the feelings associated with Oxytocin (bonding with others, including basic social bonding) and Pharynx with Vasopressin (defensive loyalty). Despite this, Pharynx participates in the misunderstood traditions of pony culture for their holidays. Ponies were the group which helped the changelings initially transform and offered suggestions when problems arose or help was sought out. So, while establishing some of their own traditions/culture is a completely valid concept, throwing away anything associated with ponies is a bit extreme as well.
0 likesMaybe part of the reason Chrysalis doesn't want to reform is because she wants to keep he gothic look instead of transforming into a more cutesy one.
0 likesI mean she can always transform to look like her old form but it's just a light joke ^^. There's even a meme art about it too.
You are a genius
1 likeThis was an interesting theory and I love the reformed Chrysalis design, fanfic story potential ^^ Great video ^^
0 likesFluffle puff is the one that can make her good
0 likeswow queen creseless is very peritty when she froms
0 likesIt sounds like the story plot is lacking a certain solution for a ratified resolve among the villian character.my best guess for a resolve among this would have too be something extrodanary like an introduction of another new character of an ancient pony of Darkness?.🥶
0 likesİf my little pony creators listend to this video they would’ve changed crysalis
2 likesi would give Chrysalis a Chance and Let her Find out What Friendship is About before Reforming her
0 likesI don't want the villains to get reformed, adds more realism to the show. Since not all people can or are willing to change their ways.
0 likesWe need a season 10 bois that way we can see all this happen
0 likesA wise man once told me "A true act of good will, will always sparks another"
0 likesJust realized that if Thorax had a human name it would pretty much be Ass lmao
0 likesThe reforming spell that twilight wanted to use for discord
0 likesHA! Good luck reforming Tirek.
1 likecan you do cozy glow next because she should be much easier to reform then tirek.i think that because cozy is just a child and she hasn't been evil for that long if I would to reform her I would say this:you can have power cozy glow,just not like this,have you seen how much power twilight and her friends have,it's because of friendship,you did try to use friendship to get power but by being evil,you don't need to steal power,you can just use friendship,similar to the changelings reform,instead of stealing love,they share it,you might think it made them weaker,but they actually became stronger because of friendship,so you can get power and friendship,your just using the wrong way to get it
0 likesSend them all to Tartarus Dan release the one at a time to get reform
0 likesI like and hate how you are speaking of reforming them like brainwashing. "Made to think they have a choice but should they choose it there's no real threat" gives me cultish vibes lol
0 likesChrysalis is after love? Her belief that consuming love is the only way to satiate a changeling's hunger? Does that not count as a thing to tackle???
0 likesWHAT EPISODE IS THIS!? I WANT TO SEE IT!!! I HAVEN’T HEARD OF THIS YET
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0 likesrule34friendship compels youMaybe this is stupid but my thoery in my head about her is that actually she wasn't born as a changeling, but a pony alicorn, and she did something wrong so she got cursed for it or something, because there are some details about her that makes her look like she is half pony. Like all changelings have a "horn" on their head but that is not a horn actually bc they can't use it to anything. They only have changeing magic. But Chrysalis has magic in her horn like a unicorn. You could say that it is bc she is the queen, but then she could just be only stronger or something. I mean unicorns are also have magic in their horn, not just princesses. And also her mane and tail is hair, and not that weird skin (or idk what) thing that other changelings have.
1 likeAnd it would be logical that she rejected referming when Starlight changed the hive, bc she can't just reform with sharing love like other normal changelings, bc of the curse.
Can someone tell me their opinion if someone reads this? 😂
Edit: I mean she was a normal pony and then an alicorn and after that this happend bc I know nopony can be born as an alicorn.
Sawtooth waves: the reason why she was first was bc she was the first to back out
0 likesMe:…or bc she is your queen :3
Whan i first saw chrysalis i think that she was a hero turned evil because most shows have a goofy persone that want insane or got backstabbing and got a crazy makeover
0 likesHmm...I'm not sure I buy into that. While Chrysalis definitely believes that friendship makes one weak and foolish, that's not what makes Chrysalis a "monster". What ultimately drives her is wrath and hate stemming from vanity. She can't stand the thought of "being beaten". She can't even live with it without it eating her up inside. By the time Season Nine rolled around, she no longer cares about her hive beyond the fact that it was something she possessed that she feels was "taken" from her. All she cares about is making the ones who caused her to lose her hive suffer, specifically Starlight Glimmer and, by extension, the rest of the Mane Six. The only time she ever vents her anger against a Changeling was against Thorax for "betraying her"...in effect robbing her of another subject, something else she "possessed". Even her pose in the statue reveals how twisted and demented she's become...a hissing, biting monster defiantly raging to the last.
0 likesIf Chrysalis was going to be reformed, I can only see it happening if she somehow lets go of her hate, and that can't happen unless she lets go of her vanity.
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And it's plain to see that she's never going to let go of that. As much as people want to make theories about how it could be done, the reality is that Chrysalis is simply irredeemable.
0 likesi'll stress this...what Changeling Culture? As far as I can tell..they had none. brutal Tribalism at best.
0 likesi hope that never happens, they deserve eternal punishment and no redemption, that's what kinda turned me off from steven universe, i saw everything as a waste of time, pointless. Turning everyone good is lame, lazy and unrealistic even for color horses standards. There were 8 season of reforming, Discord, Starlight and many others turn good, but that is not enough for people! Let us enjoy a villain defeat with punishment. GEEZ!
0 likesWhat do you think of the G 4.5 series Pony Life?
1 likeSPOILERS: Optimus and The Mane 6 used the Matrix of Leadership and the Elements of Harmony was Chrysalis reformed to a good side. Thanks for the Matrix of Leadership. It's a weapon of light. In TF MLP FID
0 likesYou should rewach the episode in which oseles terende too creaseles it seems to be looking like she was creaseles
0 likesI love your reasoning
0 likesToday I'm tackleing chrysalis I'll tackle T-EX and cozy glow another day :3
0 likesMe: maybe Chrysalis can be related to Luna too because if Luna can show chrysalis a way to be good because in the past Luna got sent to the moon the a few years later she came back as nightmare moon apple Jack and twilight showed her another way right?
Um.. their might be a better way. But this may sound cruel for Chrysalis. U could transport her to the new tribe. Until she had a place of her own on the hive(a.k.a, maybe queen or the advisor) the could put her in friendship lessons taught by Therinx it will take time but she will see that the hives new culture had nothing to do with friendship
0 likesI would love to see this actually!
0 likesAnyone know the Wings of Fire book series? At the end, Chrysilas kinda looks like a Silkwing.
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Why the heck do you think chrysalis looks like a silkwing?
0 likes@Rat time I meant at the very end, when she is reformed.
0 likesMaybe the changelings were ponies before? They just like, corrupted because they feed on love? Just my theory
0 likesTirek's brother tried to reform him already and it didn't work
0 likesMe trying to remember all the changelanes names👁👄👁
0 likesReform Sombra!
0 likesHer soldiers u mean her children after all she gave birth to them . Once u think about it she actually care's for her hive she just show it diffrently cause u know she's got a temper
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She does
0 likes;_;; Man I just wanna see my favorite character outside stone again
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Same
1 likeThe only thing I don’t agree with is the model u gave crystalis, XD, I think she’d still wanna be somewhat like her other form just no as ragged I’d keep her colorsceme
0 likesIs that an edit?? ..but chrysalis is beautiful
0 likesSo basically Thorax = pony puppet.
0 likesSo I am wondering why her name is queen chrysalis because i am asking because it reminds me of the christal empire
0 likesNext video ideas: are rainbow dash and Applejack really a couple? And the theorizing the love relationships of each of the mane six!
0 likesWhat if this information was given to you by GUMMY?
0 likesYou're way to form the is amazing but I think I have a good one to start so half the loan and separate with a pony know what with a been through then slaps the ponies show them what they did spin have the villains do the opposite of that and the same of that and then she would someday like better to whether they should be turn back to stone or to whether they could be good and with more
0 likesOr just let her to Flufflepuff...
0 likesMy brother came up with a theory that pharyx is the heir
0 likesHow about you reform her into a ginormous heart of love
0 likesThorax brother is a nice changing but he is still warrior
0 likes❤️💜🖤🖤🖤
0 likes>Reforming Chrysalis
0 likes<Flufflepuff
I know the people who make MLP made their FINAL and LAST season,
0 likesBut I think they should make 1 more, and the REAL LAST season
Where they reform each of the three villains. I would like that
Also- I cant watch the final season because I only have Netflix and it has not
Updated yet for some reason- 😭😭😭😭😭😢
You can tell her the truth about Her 🤤🤤
0 likesEquestria is like US, pony colonialism xD
0 likesHave you watch my little pony pony life yet it is Fun 🤣
0 likeswatch the creators of mlp take this idea OvO
0 likesah yes
0 likesBrony Notion
Nice to see you again, old....
Friend? No, that ain't it-
I'm sorry, but I don't think MLP Needs to redeem every single villain in the show. I’m not saying I don’t like the idea of redeeming villains, it’s just the way MLP Did them. The absolute worst thing about the annoying trope of redeeming villains in MLP is that it takes the responsibility away from the bad guys.
0 likesIt basically tells the audience that it's never okay to be angry at someone who's hurt you, nearly killed you and your friends and it's your responsibility to make them better people despite the horrible things they did to you. The way MLP does A few of the villain redemption to me is plain. It's just The villain does bad stuff, heroes beat villain, villain asks for forgiveness, villain changes and becomes good like nothing ever happened.
I started having this issue when Starlight was redeemed, and I consider her to be the WORST reformed MLP villain and Character in general, along with the character starting undeserved Villain reformations for scumbags that were hell-bent on harming people and destroying the world who then turn out to have a terrible Excuse for it. I'm looking at you, Starlight and Tempest Shadow
I mean, sure, Redemption is a good lesson to teach sometimes and that there are always two sides to a story and that compassion can go a long way but when you start telling the victims that it's their responsibility to fix their abusers and being Angry for their actions towards them in any way is bad, it's just an unacceptable lesson to teach.
You reform Cozy Glow and Chrysalis but not Tirek?
0 likesUnsure if ever answered, but does anyone know the music at 2:19?
0 likescan you do who is chrysalis parents pls
0 likeswhy not terik hes to strong
0 likesFluffle puff. Yr forgetting fluffle puff if they would help her become Cannon 😐 ( ik I'm stoopid I'll go know...)
1 likeShe might be Green not Blue
0 likesOh hey. MLP is still a thing? No idea why this was in my recommendations...
0 likescan u make a video of reforming tirek
0 likesLook you see season 4 the name is princess twilight sparkle when the princesses was gone zekora said drink the potion and then twilight drink it so there's 2 dreams and this is the first accident and the first dream when nightmare moon was defeted by Celestia and the the second accident and the second dream was when the two sisters defeated discord and my question way Luna is in that accident when she was nightmare moon and trap in the moon so that's why I'm asking you that because it didn't make sense to be so make a video about it plss because I wanna know😀😀😊😊
0 likesMaybe if she feels happy she how much the hive Nico feels loved well she might come back Metro PC phone kind of like how the weather's going to be just like that he just needs to be loved now we may be love Toto don't know who this is this is Samantha
0 likesAre these real episodes about them trying to ‘get along’ or not ;-;
1 likeDiscord can free them if he chose to
0 likesReforming Kind Sombra
0 likesYou also can reform Terec
0 likesI think Starlight glimmer
1 likeHahahahahahaha I like when he sed I will tackle tee rekc and cosy glow later Hanrahanahaha
0 likesFIRST
3 likesTo ❤️ this
1 like5:3 i do want them back, bet it fluttership agan
0 likesI mAy JuSt hAvE tHe AnSwEr
0 likesMe:WHY DID THAT HAVE TO BE SO FUNNY WHEN YOU SAID THAT
Yes I hope so
0 likesWait when did this happen?
0 likesWhat’s the outtro song called?
0 likeswhen can you upload cozy and t recks
0 likesWho's been a fan before 2020 I know I am!!!
0 likesI ship Starlight and Chrysalis 😅 Chryslight
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0 likesFlame thrower
0 likesI want queen chrysalis to be good
1 likeUmmmmmm that looks like a snow Queen 😅
0 likesMade it this way what is they broke the statue and try to reform
0 likesWhy she has normal eyes?
0 likesOMG OMG SAWTOOTH I JUST FOUND A SECRET EPISOD DELETED BYE THE MAKERS OF MLP it's about the changling and how they have a big problem un like crysalis she can lay eggs and still produce changelings but now that thoraxe can't so is the episode I found out a HUGE SECRET (most changelings are male only a few are female and gess what! Thoraxe has a crush!!!!!!!!! And from the DELETED scenes thorax is worried in the future changelings could be extinct that's when they stopped the animations and deleted this episode I thought you might want to do the video on this so yeah just saying I love your videos and keep up the good work
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Sorry it's long
0 likesAbout chrysalis people, how they gort new body? Is there had a secret?
0 likeswhat u gunna do now
0 likesmy little ponny has endid???
I’m a Alcorn
0 likesMy little pony 2
0 likesBeyond Equestria
wait the Brony nation?
0 likesso true
0 likesCozy clos goz back to school
0 likesQueen crisalis q
Sees a comments with 1000 likes
0 likesMe: i wish i had likes like those ;w;
Flash warning
0 likesI see that
0 likesCan you and me to your Alicon list things my Alison name is princes reem
1 likeJasmine a.h I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOUR VIDEEYOS
1 likeAre u the maker of my little pony? Couse I really want to that 9 season
0 likesNext part
0 likesI guess reforming is not a good idea because then all the vilians will get reformed it just stinks
0 likeswow tell us please pleasen i need to see this so i can now what happpend
0 likesOmg.....
1 likei agree
0 likesГрустный факт: я тоже делаю крутые ролики но меня не замечают 😭
0 likesДай бог здоровья тем кто заметит 🤗✨
Hey I knew that too
0 likesI think.... cozy glow is good just got nuged in the wrong direction twilight could have done it but her......Freinds they kept her from that they got got obsessed with....well.....Having badguys in jail twilight was in the right direction Right right?But it's just a filly Brainwashed Her freinds kept her in 1/2 in right she said",I'm so sorry you thought that Freinds Don't let a bad apple keep you from what's right.🤠🥳What they mean is getting carried away with winning THEY ARE WRONG
0 likesHow to change chrysalis
0 likesDID YOU NOT seE THE Frist video well hey deleted it now but crisalish idk how to spell the name sryy but she was a alicorn but she wasn't treated like a princess so then she snapped and became a changeling
0 likesRead this plzz
okay but why is she suddenly white
0 likesInteresting. I suppose.
0 likes3:08 not like sawtooth at all 🙄
0 likesyes can you please
0 likes2:17
0 likesMy brain said worse answer he said i should hug the villain i am dum
0 likesChrysalis: watches video
0 likesChrysalis: what the fuck is this,WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!?!?!?!!?!
Who the fuck is cozy glow and how many seasons have a missed I’ve seen up to the end of season 5 but I can’t find anything else online
0 likesDivide and conquer
0 likesReformed A.U.
0 likesThat + dragon's
0 likesI can say that Shining Armor can not be is not the first stallicorn because what about Celestia dad?
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Alicorn
0 likesFriend ship was saaaaad beacouse crysalis was the truth quen of love not bad
0 likesare you sure about that
0 likesHahaahaha 4:08/6:25
0 likesi am a dupe
1 like😂😂😅
0 likesTo bad mlp ended.
0 likesCrisalis is a good guy 👧🏼😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨
0 likesWhy was this recommended for me? I have MLP lmao
0 likesTrinston was here .
0 likesMy OC, Goldie Rose, daughter of Chrysalis (I mean royalty type) will only reform a while after her mother does. She will try to get revenge, but will eventually reform to be with pharynx. Yes, they were dating.
0 likesI go deep with my OC backstories. Goldie Rose is just the name to her pony form. Arachnet is her real name.
А можно на русском
0 likesBut she wants to be mean
0 likesI wonder how to get season 9
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You can watch it part by part
1 like@Dil Afrose oh so I need to finish all the videos?
0 likesthe anser is how perents get us to school
0 likesIs this true :00000000000
1 like0:01
1 likeShe would have been so damn cute if she actually reformed
2 likesI have a theory on Chrysalis, I think sh once had friends with the crew of the flutter flyer. It's a group of pirates of mostly ponies that protect unnatural things from beyond, Chrysalis was the spy, her other crewmember was Dr. Timbur, he use to be the one of the smartest ponies in the world, Timbur like to study creachers from a evergreen forest, until the event.... (Dramatic music 🎶)
1 likeThis is genuinely pleasant to see. AAAAAAAAAAA this is wonderful.
1 likeOh my god, this channel is still a thing! I used to watch hours of your content, this is awesome!
1 like4:03 essentially embodies a major part of why I continued to watch FiM to its conclusion and beyond. Faust’s creations show that worthy principles of cooperation are far from weak, though they can appear to be at times.
0 likesI actually am really happy at this as an as of yet unreformed changeling. It feels good to see reformed changelings still have high hopes for our queen.
0 likesI was hoping the series would go into an evil friendship at some point, but they never really did. A group of evil creatures with evil goals but still were good friends to one another.
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That would be amazing. Just imagine, Chrysalis, Cozy Glow and Tirek being friends. Then Chrysalis would become a reformed Changeling, but still be evil. Adding to that, imagine having Chrysalis came and the mane six are like who is this then the two come and they are like Chrysalis. Then Chrissy vs Starlight. It would be an even epic finale, 100x better then the one, we got. Not saying, one we got wasn't good or great. Plus, think about it, Chrissy can raise Cozy Glow, when they are trapped in stone. So, little Cozy gets someone to do it. Something tells me, Cozy's parents were evil or just hated her and that's why, she is like this or she never had parents. Maybe, something like that. So, you'll get a evil nice bug mom, instead. She'll be happy, they'll all be happy.
0 likesThis is amazing! I’d love to see this!
0 likesI thought the music was from Beauty and the Beast... it sounds so similar! xD I love it.
2 likesI think your idea might be the best one for this because I never thought of the idea of pony colonialism being the problem here until you mentioned it.
0 likesI have always loved the reformed designs and corrupted designs. Though I haven't seen much on the possibility of Cadence becoming corrupt. I assume because that's what chrysalis is in the series but I love the idea of watching Cadence becoming ( Heart Breaker) or whoever and joining forces with Chrysalis.
0 likesi just wonder. she is a queen, meaning she is the mother of whole hive. so... thorax cant be a new mommy? if only they dont have a baby changeling to rise as a new queen. or thorax changing his sex.
2 likesI watched this when I had an essay. It helped me a lot!ᑌᗯᑌ
0 likesOne of the only ways to reform them would be for them to see what it is like to get the same treatment from someone more powerful than them (they have no idea what Grogar is actually like and he is most likely much smarter than those three combined considering he is older and wiser than them in an evil sense and not a good sense) and Grogar fits that though we don't know much about him either or why he decided to become Emperor of All He Saw, so maybe just maybe if the REAL Grogar comes back to take back his lands that were taken from him then we could learn more about him when he starts to tell people what it was like for him when he was younger or be told by some of his oldest creations or in other words monsters of legend like Typhon, the Kraken, Jormungandr, Fenrir and etc.
1 likeGood plan but you miss one detail, she see friendship as a corrupting force and she prefers the old way which is counter productive. That ironic which in the name changeling, they changed.
1 likeI hope you can do Tirek next. At first I thought the idea of Chrysalis turning good would be bad due to the fact she might lose her identity and personality that we all came to enjoy. But your video once again dose prove a good and interesting way of it being possible.
0 likesOk but your reformed chrysalis design in the thumbnail is so heckin pretty.
1 likeNice! Oh I have an idea for cozy! She could be an advisor for twilight alongside spike as her royal friendship ambassador!
0 likesChrysalis’s new form looks really kewl
0 likesThat ending would have been more satisfying than what we got. Cossyglows parents should have been the ones to convince the princesses to give her another chance.
0 likesChrysalis was the culture of the changelings. Her will was law. So regretting the old culture is synonymous with her ouster. I don't see her being able to bring any of the old ways if she came back with her. She the proud leader would have to bend to there will instead of hers.
1 likeSociopaths lack the ability to feel friendship. So cozy glow is out as a redeemable creature.
2:17 I can actually see ponies doing that... "MAGIC FRIENDSHIP POUNCE!" "Aaaahhh!!"
0 likesAlso, great theory, though Chrysalis will probably never be cheerful and friendly...
The 'Lings need someone better than Thorax. Ambassador? Yes. Big brother to all? Of course. King? Oh TARTARUS no!
If I was making a new changeling government after Chrysalis reforms, I'd set up a three-seat council, a Triarchy if you will, where Thorax, Chrysalis, and Pharynx are all involved. If it was just Chryssi and Thorax, it'd be gridlock, and Chrysalis would almost always get her way. Pharynx understands both sides, could mediate, and him being there would boost Thorax's confidence while keeping Chrysalis from dominating.
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Other than that, I think your reasoning is spot-on.
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Conspiracy Theory of the Day: How many well-known ponies from the Unification and Two Sisters eras were actually changelings who got dragged into pony shenanigans?
Chrysalis is definitely the most likely to be redeemed. And way you described sounds rather fitting. I’m suddenly hoping that IDW’s season 10 does such a thing.
0 likesI wonder who drew that reformed look for her? Very good, it looks official practically.
If Queen Chrysalis got friends in Cozy and Tirek, would she transform? She would give some kind of love to her friends and other changed by giving love
1 likewhy not release them one at a time? that way you could reform one without the others interfering, and as an added bonus could help the others in getting reformed. having all three free at once spreads the resources too thin. just some thoughts.
1 likeThat's a beautiful design for a reformed Chrysalis.
0 likesWhat would their culture/history look like though? Constant hunger, attempts and failures at taking over kingdoms? This sounds mean but i don't mean it that way, i'm just wondering what their culture/history would look like; how they were created/evolved, how their shapeshifting works? Maybe even their ability to take the best from others and mimic it themselves to make the best society they can?
0 likesI believe tyrek (I think I spelt that wrong) would be the next easiest because all he wants is power, kinda like sunset shimmer wanted before twilight sparkle changed her mindset. He needs to see how bad he becomes with all that power he “wanted” before he sees its better to just keep at the same level instead of take over all his friends and his friends family
0 likesMy daughter also thinks that the villains' power should be kept from interfering while reforming them.
0 likesI watched you since 2019 yet I can't belive your still in YouTube
2 likesReform Chrysalis is lovely honestly
0 likesMost people: we can reform our villains to be productive for society.
1 likeMe: IF THEY BREAK THE LAW I BREAK THEIR JAW.
I’m confused about the timeline of the banishments
1 likeNightmare moon: she was in the moon for exactly 1000 years
Discord: was defeated before Luna became nightmare moon, so if he really was trapped in stone for around 1000 years, even if not exactly he still should’ve been freed before nightmare moons banishment was over
The pillars: they ended up in Limbo before discord was turned to stone, maybe even before his reign started, and yes they were brought back by the main 6, but it’s still incorrect to say that they were in Limbo for 1000 years, it would be longer
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You are right. But it would have been a 1000 years, maybe even 2000. As this was when, Luna and Celestia were young. So, I'll go with 2000 years. As Celestia ruled for around a 1000 years. Then, you had the times with Luna, which must been a long time. That''ll be my chance. But I'll fix this then make a video on it.
1 likeThey should release one at a time
1 likeI have a theory about cozy glow. You can probably turn her into a Alicorn. Here is how she can reform, when Chrysalis. reformed Cozy Glow was suspicious she asked why she turned into this “ Monster” Chrysalis told her everything then Cozy Glow realized that friendship can be good then she finally turns into her true Alicorn self. But what do you think!
0 likesI really like pharynx is a interesting character just like chrisalys
0 likesWoahh.... She looks so pretty as a nice queen
0 likesWow ,if chrysalis can change good like thorax she will look very beautiful
0 likesHer reformed side is sooooo pretty
0 likesI think chrysalis should be with cadence to learn love and friendship
0 likesI think reformed Chrysalis looks gorgeous UwU
0 likesChrysalis needs to be good and better let cozy glow and the other guy be evil while Chrysalis be nicer and learns friendship
2 likesI don't think she and the others should ever be reformed. They're essentially performance pieces, designed to hype up a boss fight similar to the Sirens. To reform them would to strip them if everything that makes them fun.
1 likeRefored crysalys is so pretty
0 likesDear Sawtooth Waves,
0 likesCould you please look over (and possibly make a video on) this not-so-little conspiracy of mine? Look at it like this: Rainbow Dash got the others their cutie marks, can do this incredible, life changing stunt (sonic rainboom) with ease, has, if you look at it right, broken the fourth wall a couple times, and of course most of the ultra powerful magic in the show is rainbow... WHO ARE YOU DASHIE???
SHE LOOKS GORGEOUSSSSSS
0 likesPlot twist:
2 likesThe bugs things I forgot what they were called transformed because they wanted to look good.
I wish I can see chrysalis form into good,😃🤫😍😭🤷*
2 likeswhile that's a nice picture I believe Crysalis would look much darker similar to Therenx instead of a less rainbowy Celestia
0 likesChrysalis and Sombra is my favorite villain characters.
0 likesCongratulations on 300k!
0 likesCrysalis is pretty when she reformed
0 likesCongrats on 300k!
1 likeBruh- I thought of making a new hive that would be some kinda gurds or guild that would do jobs for items and money and chrysalis would be the leader xD
2 likesCongrats Sawtooth! You hit 300K! Pls make a 300K sub special
0 likesOkay so here's the thing, I believe to get paid you have to go past the 10-minute mark on almost every video. which means he's not doing this to get money he's doing this to confuse our brains, and I think something beautiful in that.
0 likesYou know I DO agree with and I wish MLP had this kind of ending
0 likesBut I guess author wanted to say that something or someone never changes depending on themselves
And crysalis didn't wanted to change till the end like thorax and cozy glow
They tried to help to crysalis TWICE like to discord and starlight and from the second time got that they were wrong and changed but crysalis didn't wanted to change so i guess maybe its even good that she was turned into a stone.... 😞
I was thinking the same thing about How to reform Queen Chrysalis. Friendship has no correlation with just pony culture. i mean seriously, I have an OC that in his backstory was a danger to ponykind and has to learn that the new era of ponies are different.... more friendship oriented... than when he was young
0 likesStarlight: huh chrysalis is evolving
2 likesChrysalis has evolved to reformed chrysalis
Chrysalis looks better now than before
0 likesdo a video about why chrysalis was the only unreformed female changeling
1 likeWith cozy glow, she has the idea that friendship is magic, but she has the wrong idea on how it should be used. I think the options cozy has are “friendship for power” and “friendship for the sake of it”. Cozy is probably going to be the hardest to reform because of this, and we’ll need to come up with a strategy on how to make her understand the true magic of friendship. Good luck Sawtooth. If anyone can find a way, it’s you.
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They should have Cozy Glow sent to a friendship camp to learn about friendship in a painful way. Then again, maybe Devon Smith is right about Cancer Glow being a lost cause.😿🔫
1 likei was watching the ep were Starlight Glimmer and the others (if u know )broke Chrysalis's throne and the changelings reformed!!
2 likesI am going to a stable and going to explain ‘tHe MaGiC oF fRiEnDsHiP’ to the horses
0 likesHmm well that's a good destiny for her. It solves all her problems with friendship and her place in the hive.
0 likesVery good the vídeo!
0 likesAwesome video
0 likesWhy do I keep thinking that Thorax's brother is named Anthrax????
0 likesAlso I was hoping that there would be a secret season ten, but the book closing really destroyed me.
I can't say I'd want Chrysalis to be reformed. Not everyone's going to change who they are just because your kind to them. Its important thing for kids to learn that morale.
0 likesTirek could also be reformed by usin' 'is brother..
0 likesCozy is the one with NO redemption, to stone with 'er!!
* hasn’t watched mlp for years *
2 likesCome back to a evil small tiny cutie...
me : wtf -
No,you have to have chrysalis being evil. She's the perfect villain!
0 likesHave you ever thought of reacting to a brony fan fiction? If so may i suggest Bride of Discord followed by Daughter of Discord?
1 likeThis has nothing to do with this video, but I had a random thought one night. What if the FlimFlam brothers are changelings. Im probably wrong, I was tired when I thought of this.
2 likesPersonally I hope that they don't get reformed. It shows how not everyone can be saved, and sets good lesson and boundary.
0 likeswait wait i have a lot of thing in my head like mabey Sombra Chrisalis are Candence parents and when star swirl said 1000+ i remembered nighmare moon mayby he is the one banished nightmare moon and when celestia and luna used the elements of harmony their hair started to wave and i thought the elements of harmony can only be used for good but sunset shimmer dint do that and i remember the elememts of disharmony mabey crogars bell is accualy one of them and the stone in equestria girls and a lot more and maby this why dint candence hurt king sombra or chrislis bc they are her parents is this enoigh i think so tho
2 likesBig fan of your details
0 likesHave you noticed that the cutie marks are sometimes on the left and sometimes on the right of their body?
0 likesCongrats on 300K subs today 👏
0 likesYour right pharynx said the changlings once used to be fiearce warriors now they,re all weak and stuff
0 likesThe changlings turned weak after they reformed is chrisalis afraid of that do you think she wants a fiearce army
I can't wait another week also can you do cozy glow timestamp 0:00
0 likesHappy 300k sawtooth!
0 likes:D
Chrysalis, maybe. Tirek, 👋🏾eeh sorta. Cozy Glow, mmm hard odds
0 likesRegular fans of MLP: ugh, Chrysalis can NEVER be reformed, she's true EVIL! Hate her so much! >:0
0 likesTrue bronies: REFORM 👏CHRYSALIS👏TO👏HER👏BETTER SELF👏AND👏MAKE👏A NEW👏FRIEND👏
I loved the name pack taco
1 likeI feel lile Rainbow dash would be the best one to reform Tirek and where his loyalties should lie and Twilight reform Cozy Glow because Cozy Glow knows friendship is power she just doenst know how to use it in the right way so I think Twilight would be the best with reforming her since she represents the Element of Magic. I think Rarity would be the best at reforming Chrysalis because she can learn to share love instead of being selfish and taking it for yourself Rarity would be best for since she can show her Generosity and the ways of being Generous to Others
0 likesI have a question to ask you and maybe u can answer can a earth pony turn into an alicorn and since you said in your other video a alicorn is made by discovering or making new magic so if an earth pony could idk figure out how to move the earth kinda like maud but i guess like an earth bender i know its a stretch but could and earth pony become one ?
0 likesI mean Cozy Glow might be able to he reformed. She's manipulative and annoying but she's young so they can probably get by. Chrysalis hates the idea of being reformed probably and tired is a literal demon. I'm not sure if they'll be able to reform tirek but eh, friendship rules over I guess
0 likesThis appeared in the Up Next box while watching a video about a very strange prototype rifle.
0 likesWhat is my life?
Waaaaitaminit... that rifle was pretty small, and designed to be used with winter mittens...
Oh crud. The Royal Equestrian Army is about to invade, aren't they? They will "liberate" all our COOKIES!! oh noes...
You should make a video about how the pony Twilight can turn into Midnight Sparkle (from Equestria Girls) and like Nightmare Moon and Day Breaker
0 likesI wish this could happen 😭 but it's over
0 likesLESS GOOOO 300K SUBSRIBERS WOOOOO ITS BEEN AN ADVENTURE MR. WAVES! Congratulations :)
0 likesI like chrysalis because she thinks she is doing the right thing, she was trying to feed her Hive but in the loss of the pony's happiness but she didn't care. She thought of only her Hive and her own people and I admit that was very horrible but she didn't realize or understood that.
0 likesI don't how you think you can reform cozy glow but I guess you can give her a chance well if you're lucky
0 likeschrysalis go from bee to butterfly
0 likesthis is why we need season 10
0 likesChangelings were in the final battle but she wasnt convincef she needs to sloely trandition pretenfing unteformed chsngeling are there but then she will befriend them then when they reveal they are reformed she will realise what true friendship is and that its different for every culture. Like if U agree.
1 likeNice👍
0 likesHEY I know this might seem weird but... CAN YOU PROVE THAT UNICORNS 🦄 POOP RAINBOWS/SPRINKLES/MAGIC (etc)
0 likesIf you can reform the god of chaos you can reform a small child and the bug queen, idk about grumpy pants
0 likesyup yup vilints always be good with a good way😌
0 likesI rather keep Chrysalis her old self hisses softly
1 likeHey I have a theory, when flurry heart was born Celestia said this was something EQUESTTRIA has never seen before. Maybe Celestia and Luna where born Alicorns
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But Luna then said, it was beyond their understanding, meaning they werent alicorns when they born
0 likes@Report Trollchas They were born as Alicorns in Lauren Faust's book.
0 likes@Report Trollchas but that's just a theory a game theory
0 likesGO COZY GLOW! I LIKE HER EVIL! No offense...But i can’t wait to see hers!
0 likesI heard if u say a YouTuber’s name 5 times they will pin u...
Sawtooth Waves
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Please send this to Hasbro so they can continue mlp they said they stopped because they ran out of ideas
0 likesThis is an amazing idea but....season 9 had the finale so...😬
0 likesCount all the evil changelings and when they turn normal count all them and see if they were all there sale and see if you’re still 101,000
0 likesI love your vids I feel ashamed that I forgot about your channel I’m sorry ;^; 😢yet your as funny as ever 🙂🙃
0 likesWill there be video about reforming Sombra?
0 likesI just realized how much I relate to Ferinx-
0 likesThey are so evil 🦹🏻♀️
0 likesMmm, that thumbnail is pretty nice.
0 likesCongrats on 300k
0 likesCozy Glows CANNOT be reformed
0 likesHAPPY 300K 🎉🥳🥳
0 likesWhat’s funny is because they’re called changelings but chrysalis hates the change.
0 likesChrysalis should not be re-created I like her the way she is
0 likeswhere do you find these episodes and series? i only watch mlp on netflix but i don't know where everyone finds all those series and stuff
0 likeswhat about reforming king sombra???
0 likesFRIENDSHIP IS WITCHCRAFT
0 likesshit why am I in this fandom now
0 likessince sunset shimmer is a pony will she bump into human sunset shimmer meet like twilight met twilight
2 likesThat’s my question I’ve always thought of
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I actually want to see that now
0 likesSorry I'm talking about a video from 2 years ago, but you said Celestia and Luna were not born alicorns because Celestia said "The birth of an alicorn has never been seen in Equestria" but you see Celestia and Luna were not born in Equestria. So wouldn't that mean that they were born alicorns??? And maybe the difference behind the mane is the fact that only unicorns who were born alicorns have wavy hair?! But... in season 9 twilight has wavy hair so maybe it's the only older alicorns who have it??? Let me know ur thoughts!
0 likesThere are 4. WHY ARE U FORGETING SOMBRA?!
0 likesYe, he might be unteformable..
Unfortunately the show is over, so we'll never get to see it :(
0 likesWho is oldest? Twilight or Chrystalis?
0 likesThis would have been awesome if Ponylife didn't come out. (I am not a fan of Gen 5
0 likesCan you talk about pony life?
0 likesplease do a castle mania pony of shadows video
0 likesCan you please do a video on pinkie pies baby?
0 likesMake T-Rex and cozy glow video of reforming them
0 likesBig fluffy unicorn jumping on rainbows.
0 likesBig fluffy unicorn jumping on rainbows.
Big fluffy unicorn jumping on rainbows.
does anybody know that cozy glow don't have parents🤔? Or cozy glow have parents and I don't know😅
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I dunno which is actually the case. BUT what I can say though,is that if Cozy does actually have parents. It seems like they really,REALLY screwed the pooch. Because if Cozy was showing some sort of behavioral issues at home. That were bad enough that they wanted to send her to the school of friendship,in an attempt to try and correct them. Then they really should have just taken and had her evaluated at some sort of mental health facility instead. Because it seems like the kid clearly is/was displaying some hardcore behavioral issues,like psychopathic/sociopathic level kinda hardcore. Not just shoving her into some school that teaches friendship and hope for the best. Because we ALL saw just exactly how well that turned out.....😑
2 likesWow 😯
0 likesIt could happen. ^^
0 likesOh god, you massacred her.
0 likesPlz make a poll video on best pony from mane six through poll
1 likeMLP:FIM IS FINISHED
0 likesThe rest of your theories are 2020.
!I think crysalis was wrong and now crysalis change!!
0 likesAre you posting again soon? I don't want to pressure you, I'm just wondering
0 likesWAITTT THIS IS THE BRONY NOTION? WOAHH ITS BEEN AWHILE
0 likestry to solve maud
0 likesedit: if you haven’t or if you cant
All those likes must be from all the pinkies from the mirror pool.
0 likesOoohh yeah !!! The new series is coming of mlp
0 likesI am so excited are u excited oh I never been so excited .......pinkie pie....😂😂
MORE MORE MORE MORE
0 likesHappy 300k
1 likeI have a theory. Wat if star swirl was a so many great grandfather of twilight sparkle.
0 likesGood luck brony
0 likesYOU GOT 300K Subs
0 likesWho is cozy glow btw I need to know
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She is the little pagasus filly sitting on the stone statue base at the beginning of the video. The one who has a pink coat and the super curly blue hair. The kid may LOOK cute,innocent and sweet;but I promise you that she is ANYTHING but that. The kid acts like a TOTAL friggin' psycho,except when she is trying to be manipulative AF and "play" at being sweet and innocent in an attempt to influence others.
0 likes@Mr. Chaos Vicious thank you so much I know already 😋
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0 likesUmmmm...... It's been a week and no video Sawtooth Wave?????? I'm still angry 😠😠😠😠 what happened did you change your upload date ?????????????🙎🙎🙎🙎🙎🙍🙍🙍🙍🙍🙍🙍
0 likesThey probably Brake out like discord
0 likesDidn't Sawtooth already upload this?
0 likesGood game good good good good good 😉
0 likes300k!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesI agree
0 likesI think Thorax should still be the leader and...Stop talking about the reformed Changelings like that!
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…ill wait till i get there
0 likes2:50 Ohhhh, But this comment is uh….Sorta…Kinda…..Cringey….I donno maybe im wrong
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0 likesSawtooth when will you post another Vedio I have waited tooooo long😭😭😭😡
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 likeIs your real name Jeffrey? And birthday is march 17 1998 ? Am i wrong or i am right???
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0 likesi agree with u said
0 likesI honestly hope those 3 NEVER redeem, I'm tired of the shows stupid redemptions at this point
0 likes??😕😨😭😭😭✨✨✨✨
0 likesAnxiety cc"c"""
0 likesMe to i have always wondered to
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0 likesИнтересно однако.
0 likesТут есть русские, лал?
Three ponies hu connected the unicorns the Earth and the wind habits for help Singh Twilight friends and her we soak them cannot start and any other time
0 likeswhat is this show mann ??
0 likesEvolusi
0 likesNo more ways.
0 likesi don't like them putting friendship in the water that turn the freaking changelings gay!
0 likesLike tórax no crysalis
0 likesА перевод будет а то я в английском не селён.
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Pls make a new vid it's been 2 weeks
1 likeOh brother. I think he is the only brony also other public that not in present time. He still in past and lack of youtube video attractions
0 likesHasbro would like to know your location
0 likesMe too
0 likesMe too
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0 likeshahahaha
0 likesJust saying Chrysalis is powerful and can control minds like the bridesmaids so she could maybe control changlings and take over equestria after the fight
0 likesTAH PFTTTTTTT
0 likesDid you see Star strike
0 likesYour going to run out of mlp to talk about
0 likesBruh the show is over
0 likesthere can be mutipul two exapels there is cudely freindship and than there is tsunami
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1 likewait a minute arent you illegal
0 likesSO NOT JUST Like ponies the changelings , the changelig sttill being themself not changingtheir culture .
0 likesand is thr leadership
it is not pony colonism and imitation
to disconect the ideas of friendshipwith pony coloanism in the mind
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0 likesSorry for grammatical, a hope you alive this
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0 likesThis watl shold do wat to not bo gana not gans dy evil
0 likesCozy low dack.to school
Queen crisalis To lurn how to dy nice
RED PONY GUY idk the neme To by back to a pone
why oh way in chanted night if you see the light if you can see the light by something to hang us out of your mind and you want to go out so you have to brace
0 likesI follow u on band amp
0 likesThat's... huh. That's really good, actually. Like, REALLY good. I always wanted Chrysalis to be reformed in the show and well... you gave a really good example of how that could happen.
2 likesThat is very interesting. I never thought of it like that. Maybe they could be changed. The series is over but I think I agree that maybe those villains could change. I do think Thorax is doing really good as a leader. Some want to be kinda like ponys others are fine with being themselves. Maybe Pharnex could help. Maybe they can change. And if I spelt his name wrong sorry. lol. Bye.
2 likescan we just talk about how beautiful the thumbnail looks though? 💖
2 likesI LOVE your look for 're-formed' Queen Cristalis!
2 likesShes so pritty!
I'm imagining that Chrysalis reformed and rule along side with Thorax! So maybe here's a plan?
2 likesReform Chrysalis--> Isolate her in the hive by keeping her busy--same with the others--> let thewm meet again
Now I want an entire movie around this whole concept! Why didn't Hasbro consider this?
2 likesYes, I LOVE your idea for Chrysalis! But how would you go about doing the other two. As far as we know, they care about no one but themselves. So I think that the best way to reform them is to teach them empathy, I don't know how to do that, though.
1 likeBEST! IDEA! EVER!!! THAT JUST PERFECT!
2 likesCozy is most likely gonna be the hardest to reform because she doesnt really have a reason to be good but chrysalis and tirek do chrysalis' reason is this video basically but for tirek i think the way to reform him is to reunite him with his brother,scorpan.
2 likesThere's always hope for everyone, there will always be a way to friendship to anyone. And that's Chryssy's <3
0 likesI really hope all 3 villains do get reformed in Season 10, & I also think they should start with Cozy Glow or Chysalis.
1 likeBut I do need to slightly disagree with the Changeling Culture part. Their old culture was all about invading lands & stealing love, never to be satisfied. Thorax was trying to find new ways for them to explore a new life for each other, but simply missed the "needing to defend themselves" part. That's where Pharynx came in. Chrysalis is, of course, stuck on the old ways, believing that this was the best way for the Changelings, & they should stay with it.
And the only part that the Changelings were mimicking from the ponies, was Hearths Warming. Of course, they did misinterpret the instructions.
Not an MLP fan but loving the nostalgia even though I know nothing of Cozy Glow bc I never watched past season 4. Abandoned the fandom awhile ago but occasionally I come back to enjoy the childhood memories and knowing absolutely nothing.
0 likesCan i just say, im so glad u still make these videos and i love all of these theories
0 likesif changelings live off of imitating other´s than i think its natural that the reformed colony did the same with ´´being ponies´´ theyre doing what they did before but in another way
1 likeShe looked so beautiful.
0 likesOMG.
The only 2 reasons i want Chrysalis to be reformed is bc she is beautiful reformed and i can tell she will be shiped with thorax:>
1 likeGreat video, I love your MLP theories!
0 likesOkay wow! The redesign of Chrysalis as a good queen is absolutely stunning! She looks like Elsa and Rapunzel put together and turned into a pony! 😍😍😍 Thorax may not still be alive when they decide to release the villains, but if this plan works, she will be an amazing queen. And she and Thorax do look cute together. 😏
0 likesSo cool, i cant wait to the other villains to turn good
0 likesI always hoped that Chrystalis and Therenx would get together some day she would reform
1 likeI had an idea of how she can reform but in a different way. Yes it’s a good point separate them but instead we take part of an episode where the new six went under the school. But instead under the school it’s an unknown location a palace she doesn’t know at first where or who did this she couldn’t escape the palace because of some strange force she then sees hallways full of memories of her past but I also see every single one of thorax memories. She see’s his past at first she hates it but as you go along she thinksShe needs to continue in order to escape. Starts to have little thoughts and then she meets thorax his brother and then she has the sense of performing like you said. Then she takes the final test where she somehow is at the hive when she has the choice to overthrow thorax or become part of the hive never feeding off others love but embrace it. If she failed she goes back to the beginning and if she succeed she can leave the palace and see it was thorax’s brother who tested her the chance to come back.
0 likesThat makes so much sense. I woud love to see that happening
0 likesI agree since I really want to see the villains be good
1 likequeen chrysalis looks nice when she's reformed
1 likeIt could maybe work, but remember that Starlight also played a big part of Chrysalis lost her empire. Maybe she will still feel hate over what Starlight did to her, and that will make some problems to reform her.
0 likesIt's good to see that people still care about this show. :)
0 likesWith some help of brony notion theories on chrysalis I was able to know some of the backstory of chrysalis and after putting them all together I found that chrysalis is the princess of love earlier than cadence but I don't know what happened to her that she become so nasty maybe it will be revealed in the later episodes of my little pony
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you do realize it ended right
0 likesIn the thumbnail, she looked like she was the queen of the breezies
2 likesI feel like a certain some Pony would want to do this
1 likeHonestly would be cool to see a special about this lmao
0 likesI agree 100% on your idea.
1 likeOkay but that circle untangle thing was really cool!
0 likesmy little pony ended so there is no way we'll ever know if they'll ever reform. I do hope it comes back tho
1 likeI never considered Pharenx as a potential person to help save Chrissy.
1 likeBut the one person I acually did consider was Flurry Heart whether grown up or baby.
If grown up form, then Flurry can try to learn about the queen who traumatized her parents wedding and see that Chrissy only did it to support her hive. At first there would be animosity between them as they won't see eye to eye, but when the Changling Hive is under attack from an old enemy (changling threat specifically) Chrissy might step up to save them our of her own subcounsious love for the hive that left her. Though how that will hlp reform her is another story.
If the baby version; this would work prior to season 9. If Chrissy, somehow, kidnapped Flurry Heart as revenge against Shiny and Cadance, she would have to go on the run while at the same time keeping the baby quiet and content. One thing that Chrissy will have trouble with is the fact that since the baby has so much love put onto it (the parents, the entire crystal empire, and the other three alicorns and EoH) Chrissy is both having trouble taking in all that love and finding that the love in question is too potent or even addictive. It doesn't help the fact that Flurry might actually show love back causing Chrissy to slowly care for the child without knowing. It could finally end up where Chrissy is face-to-face against another kidnapper (or maybe a rouge adult dragon) and she has to decide whether to fight to protect flurry heart or ust flee and let the dragon take her. Chrissy decides to proect and asumes a form probably similar to Ember's father(forgot his name) and scares off the dragon. However, in doing so, Chrissy exhausts most of her magic and passes out while at the same time some royal guards spot the commotion. Chrissy later wakes up on a bed, in chains, with Flurry Heart snuggled next to her while Celestia, Cadance, Shiny, and Twilight (luna maybe) watch on. They explain to her that after they brought her back to Canterlot and healed her up, mostly, they were planning on sending her to jail only to be stopped by Flurry Heart after trying to seperate them. At this, Cadance can offer Chrissy the option to help look after the child as both Cadance and Shiny will no doubt be busy with ruling the Crystal Empire.
In all honesty, if going with option B, Chrissy might've been given the Starlight treatment where it takes one or two seasons for her to fully reform into someone even Shiny/Twilight can trust.
Well here's my Reasonable/ Logical Conclusion of what Sentence should be suitable for this Monster's Society of Evil Trio:
0 likes- Tirek: since it all started with his brother and their schemes as well as their betrayal, it's best to Exile him to his homeland and let his family deal with his actions.
-Cozy Glow: like everyone has said she is still a child and she should be treated as such so a probation under a watchful militant family or a royal family and to help her reform through her teenage years and earn her trust back after Equestria from her young crimes ( the perfect test for Flurryheart!)
- Chrysalis: ... 😤😡 honestly she either stays a statue Forever; the Mane 6 and starlight glimmer try to redeem her with her changelings as support; Or (My Vote) for her numerous crimes and irredeemable actions multiple times as the 'Enemy of Equestria' , her treason to her own people, squandered the one chance she had to redeem herself and continue to plot in the shadows, as well as her conviction and never stopping to harm Equestria in any way with no signs of stopping. I'm afraid we must consider that she is one villain that's too dangerous to be kept imprisoned or unchecked; her actions continues to get worse over time as well as desperate and proving herself she is beyond Redemption; and since every pony (including the fandom) thinks she is the Best Villain then you wish will be granted as we give her the worst punishment for her crimes such as sharing the same fate as King Sombra! Shattered by the Forbidden Execution of Order 65!
Imagine the trouble of getting these three to reform.
0 likesI think you might be on to something. The whole idea makes sense.
0 likesP.S. reformed chrysalis looks amazing.
I agree they should make the episode of their reform
0 likesI wish Chyrisalis got reformed because I bet her design would be really cool
0 likesI can see this working but there is a problem, freeing them. With Discord we see that the moment he is freed he is awake he can move around the moment he is freed from stone. When they realize what is happening they can easly try and run away. Even if we have guards and discord ready at any moment there is still a change they can get away. Crysalis has a horn and can easliy teleport them, or just herself, away.
0 likesNow let's say that we free them all at the same moment and split them up. Discord can't stay with all of them at the same time. He can only be with the one they are trying to reform. Now let's say they try to reform Crysalis first. It dosn't stop the other two from trying to escape. Cozy glow is a massive lier and mulipelator and can lie about anything. Tyrek can absorb magic from any magic creatur and take it's magic to get stronger.
But here is my plan and we must ask a simple question. Are their statues conected to each other?
Crysalis and tyrek's statue's seems not to be conected, they are both standing sepretly, But Cozy is flying.
So if we can seperet the statue's or figer away to free one at a time. We can really focus on refroming one at a time and have all the secyrety on one. Insted of risking more by haveing secyrety spred on all three at once.
Sawtooth my dude I think you've just made an awesome mlp episode/arc but that also could leave some potential of a double cross if the plan doesn't work out...🤔
0 likesThe biggest hurdle in reforming Chrysalis is that she does not want to share glory.
1 likeYes she wants her subjects to be saved, but she wants to BE the one to do it.
She wants bragging rights, she wants to lord it over them and say "Look what I did. You have been saved and I am the one to be thanked for it!".
She cannot share glory, and nothing enrages her more someone else doing 'her' job. In fact she would rather tear it all down than accept being anything less than the 'hero' in her story.
Think of the kind of people who when they start losing a game, will take their ball and go home.
Can we do a video about reforming Sombra? The old man had like five near death experiences, two of those were actual deaths. He literally just pops into existence and immediately everyone wants to kill him. Ironic that the Princesses decided to reform the LORD OF CHAOS and not the guy who they tried to kill five times and successfully did so twice.
0 likesTwilight: We have built our empire upon friendship and peace-
Me: And upon the deaths and imprisonmentof every single threat. Nice friendship you have going there.
Twilight: ...
Me: Seriously I could make an argument that every single threat was inadvertently caused by you guys, as in the ponies of Equestria.
Twilight: what? Oh please!
Me: all of Ponyville treated Zecora as a witch... EVEN THOUGH THE DEFINITION OF A WITCH IS BOTH A POTION AND A MAGIC USER!
Twi: But-
Me: And that Stigyan or whatever his name was who became the Pony of Shadow after being rejected by the Pillars.
Twi: That... Proves nothing! He was just a kid and nobody knew Zecora.
Me: Everyone tried to kill Sombra without trying to understand his past.
Twi: he killed the princess of that empire stealing the Crystal Heart.
Me: Do you even know why he did that? Or heck how many friends he even had.
Twi: ...
Me: Make a video about Sombra being reformed.
While i agree on the part with abolishing changeling cultur, it wasn't solely Thorax fault.
0 likesBefore the reformation, Changeling live was pretty much: Be born, get trained as drone/soldier, serve the Hive/Queen and infiltrate other species to steal love and leave after you done.
Not much room for individualism and to form any form of culture other the thing mentioned above and whatever species the were infiltrating, which was left behind as soon as they were done.
Then comes the big reformation of the changelings and suddenly there is no need for infiltration and a lot of room for individualism which made even more evident how little of an own culture the changelings actually had.
And since copying is kind of their thing, it's not a stretch that they would copy the one cultur that bested their old ways and brought these changes.
Of course culture is usually formed be experience of the people, so simply just mimiking another cultur without understanding it leads to alot problems.
Other then that i completely agree with you.
Imma keep it real with you, I'm sick to fucking death of villains being reformed and redeemed. Do the storm king thing again and shatter these three into a million pieces.
0 likesI wonder how you would go with reforming Cozy glow, She's proven that kids can be a threat Maybe just send your home to our parents.
1 likeFrankly if you want to reform I would say the best choice to do it would be to select the element that best supplies a positive force on the villain's main issues. Look at Discord, Celestia pointed out that Fluttershy would be the most important part in reforming him. Why is that? One would think a crazy and bubbly figure like Pinkie would serve to be a better friend to Discord and she certainly was the 2nd pony to try a bit harder to befriend him. Its the kindness of Fluttershy that Discord needed, a creature who no one else could ever understand and would shun because of his differences needed to feel accepted and applauded with sincerity. So Chrysalis what does she need? Loyalty, true loyalty, I would think Rainbow would be the best choice to handle her and show that fear is not needed to have others stand behind you.
0 likesLove your chanal!<3
0 likesThis should be an episode!
0 likesI have a theory for Cozy, but beware, it won’t make sense. So, here we go: When we first met Cozy was when AppleBloom, Sweetiebelle, and Scootaloo was trying to get into Twilight’s new school. There they met Cozy Glow. I forgot how the crusaders got Cozy her cutie mark, or if Cozy had it already, but she also wanted to learn friendship. Further on in the season, we now see the new students talking to Cozy while falling asleep, telling her about the basement with the tree of harmony. This is when all things went haywire. Cozy goes into the basement and (idk if this is right) get the magic from the tree, making her (powerful?) because of the tree’s harmony. This is also where we can consider the problem and how she can reform. The problem could either be that she’s power hungry or elements of harmony hungry, or even FRIENDSHIP hungry. I didn’t really catch all the details so you can tell me in the comments. Anyways, the new kiddos fought Cozy with the elements of harmony. The new elements of harmony. Cozy ends up in a cage and somehow with Tirek and Chrysalis. Fast forward to the part where they almost got along and realized friendship. But it backfired and you know what happens. Sawtooth covered Chrysalis, and hopefully he could look at this comment and consider doing Cozy next. Anyways, now I continue my theory about how to reform Cozy. Since she isn’t a changeling, she could possibly be turned into stone and end up being changed like discord, but since MLP is so diverse, it won’t be easy because ya know, it s Cozy. Different creatures can be effected in different ways. So, if that doesn’t work, she can possibly be persuaded by the crusaders...But at the same time, (and do read this part) Cozy is manipulatively so....IDK...LIKE I SAID, I FORGOT THE DETAILS SO I MAY NEED HELP HERE...Anyways, yeah, that’s my theory. I hope you take this with a grain of salt, pepper, cinnamon, paprika, sugar, sprinkles, spice and everything nice. Thank you.
0 likesSHES SO PRETTY
0 likesI be glad the brony fandom still be going strong.
1 likeI think so queen chrysalis sure reform her to be good at all time
1 likeI thin kthat if you want to change Cozy Glow, you might need the Cutie Mark Crusaders to help. They WERE Cozy's friends before.
0 likesChrysalis is the only one who deserves to be redeemed. I mean She was given the choice to evolve with her kind and lead as queen along with Thorax. But she threw it all away for revenge.
0 likesThis could work, everypony!
1 likeThis is SUPER inportend on the last problem there’s a window that has the elements of harmony / that we’re not used to team them to stop in the frist place sooooo THAY DO COME BACK
1 likeI totally do agree, it makes total sense.
0 likesRight?! I think they could reform just as Discord did. It may not be as instantaneous as his but it could happen. Given the right terms.
0 likesI tried to reform them once and there new colors are pink purple blue (my favorite color)
0 likesYou might actually be true! The queen probably had a bad past too. And I think she learned something through out her life. Later when she helped tirek and cozy glow, she felt something new. Friendship!
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She did. And she rejected it.
0 likesI think that cozy glow can be reformed with the cutie mark crusaders
0 likesThis is an excellent way of going about this! But I do hope that chrysalis dosent look like how she looks in the thumbnail, I think dark greens, dark teals, greenish teals, and greenish blues would work best for her since she is rekindling changling culture and past Changlings had colors like that
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Oh and also it is possible to give her a color scheme like this since they kinda did that with pharynx (plus all that light and pastel color really dosent reflect her)
0 likesReformed chrysallis looks great not gonna lie
0 likesDang i hope they make a comic about it so it can be cannon
0 likesYou should make videos on crystals empire, crystal heart and king sombra
0 likesThe hive the 1st one was better than it the new one.It would a good battle for the army of the human world the 1st one not the new one it would be a no a good battle
3 likesPlease do a video about cozy glow's cutie mark
1 likeI hated how they froze cozy glow
4 likesLike how you gonna freeze a CHILD? She probably had no attention from her parents or had no parents at all :(
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She was a villain and wasn't going to stop. What could they have done...
1 likeOh shut up is a cartoon
2 likesAn ending that should’ve happened.
0 likesI think 🤔 I know who can replace Luna it’s It Obvious someone that reform , some one from the Human world, someone that can read minds , and Their name Rhymes with pun pet glimmer?
0 likesI....am Impressed. Well thought out sir.
1 likeI love queen chrysaila she is the best best favorite villain I did lots of stories about her in this fandom is she turned good I would love to see that she's my favorite character of all the character
0 likesThe image of Chrysalis looks like Cadance.
0 likesWho else was enjoying the beauty and the beast music in the backround
2 likesI have read a fanfiction where Discord was reforming the 3 villains but each of them with a different way and for Chrysalis it's pretty much like you said but without Thorax.
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What is the name of this fanfiction and what was it on?
0 likes@Shadow Lycan Three second chances by TCC56 on Fimfiction. The story was great because it has explain why they were bad and the way to makes them gentle is differents for each person.
0 likesI think the only way to get Chrysalis to reform is to show her that a revolt was going to happen anyway sure thorax was the catalyst but it only happened because of the attack.
0 likesIf it didn’t happen maybe some would get worried about thorax like maybe his brother or ocellus. And decide to spy on him. Only to be confused that thorax wasn’t draining the love. And maybe overhear a conversation about it like with Spike. They go back and reveal what they learn. Other changelings don’t believe and go check it out. Some won’t be able to accept it. And chryalis would have to deal with a divided hive. One that was ready to snap. Basically showing her that it was only a matter of time before she loses the hive and she was the only one to blame.
I think you ask lauren faust. she is the creator and she can make what happened to the villains, still that a great theory.😉
0 likesI hope they are in G5 i mean we can only hope.
1 likeI did a fanfic based off of this idea!
0 likesInteresting theory. I still miss MLP but the fandom will live on. MLP 4EVER!!
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like G4
0 likesThis could happen in the season 10 comics
0 likescurrent changeling culture is like kindergarten ngl XD
0 likesWhat if chrysalis turns Into a good perform like thorax did
1 likeMy issue with this is while chrysalis was wrong for not at least trying to get along with ponies she was still the queen of the changelings who's hive was usurped by what seems like a puppet . thorax in no shape or form is clearly meant to lead he just got the job because he's the one who lead the koo and was placed on the throne by celestia. In essence should chrysalis ever be reformed she goes right back to being the queen because there would be no hive or thorax without her
0 likesMLP S10 E1, "A queen reforming", by Sawtooth Waves ^v^
1 likeI'll tackle christalis first
1 likelegit tackles her
I died with that lol XD
All hail queen Chris Cringle.
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Sawtooth waves , you are very smart
1 likeChrysalis and changelings in the beginning before they were over reformed they had basically ate love and the ponies saw that as evil but that's not really evil it's not your fault that your only form of food comes in the form of lovr you I mean yeah Crystal was she was kind of an a**** but is that evil I mean like how you said she was mad at thorax for changing the hives cultural into Pony cultural and if some basically stripped me of everything that I believed in or I grew up with I would be a little mad yeah I get that the changelings they've done bad and I'm pretty sure that they probably killed people well ponies but still though like I never honestly thought they were really evil I mean yeah they're basically me Chrysalis and her Hive is being like real evil misunderstood as s*** but not evil
0 likesChystalis could be the 6th princess but instead of being a PONY she is a CHANGLING
1 likeThe only way the deformed tea rack is reunite him with his brother
0 likesI really don't want her to be reformed. When you think of chrysalis you think of evilness. I just can not see her being good honestly. I love her design i don't really want to change that. What if she makes a deal with twilight or something. So she will learn friendship in return not being reformed. ((to be fair i dont think chrysalis really likes the new rainbow beetle designs lol)) So she can still keep her design. she would still be chrysalis mean and grumpy but she will learn friendship and be welcomed into society. so yeah i hope this makes sense... I daydream A LOT.. so yeahhhhh
0 likesChrysalis is pretty lol oh and the pharex or how you spell it sounds like me when i protecc meh friends
1 likeI'm with you I think we're changelings have to turn how to turn evil but creating kind
0 likesAnyone else besides me remember those gags Sawtooth would do at the end of a video back then?
0 likesWelp now fluffle puff has her chrissy back :3
0 likes4:58 Glorious.
0 likesEsa es una buena idea🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
0 likesThinks of soooo many fanfic ideas for this XD
0 likesHow would Chrystilis actually look reformed? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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She looks like a Changling version of Princess Celestia
2 likes@Samuel Watson I like to think that she'd have blonde hair.
1 likeTirek should be first to be reformed then chryssy
0 likesreform chrisalise is fine
1 likeWhen G6 be produces, we need you.
0 likesSawtooth I've a question on the last mlp episode.WHAT HAPPENED TO STARLIGHT GLIMMER!!!
0 likesSo there are bronies still alive?
0 likesGood thought i was the only one hahah
Give her glasses
0 likesJust throw Fluffle Puff at her
1 likeNow do Tirek plsssss
0 likesNice.
1 likeReformed chrysalis looks beautiful but maybe change the orange to turquoise and u got a good lookin chrisy
0 likesThis is just my opinion don’t hate meh 🥴
Free Chrysalis !!!
0 likesYou do what you want
1 likeI know how to reform chrysalis It’s pink and fluffy and named Fluffle Puff
0 likesHow is it like being a changeling...
0 likesI was wondering that I want to know about cozy like she is just filly why be evil
0 likesWe not even in Gen 4 anymore lmao I wish we still were because Gen 5 is not it sis 👁👄👁
0 likesI like villains, can we have villains
0 likesNot trying to crap on your vid or anything, but I personally prefer Chrysalis being evil. Not everyone needs to be reformed.
0 likesReform King Sombra then..
0 likesWhat the hell happened to the army in the human world please make a video for that it would make a great video
0 likesI personally don’t want her to reform
0 likes2 should be reformed. the other 1 well..
0 likesI dunno if this is possible cuz mlp fim already ended BUT what if there is a 2021 movie? What do u think?
0 likesFsfsfsfsfsfsf I need this
2 likesI dont care if its official or a fanfic but i need this
Oh no found this channel again.... I can’t go back to mlp I’m in 6th grade!!!
2 likesZero stars if I could have a good night and then go to my place and then go back and then get the service done I was a bit disappointed in my order
0 likes... Metamorphosis
1 likedo about how creepy when the intro in my little pony discord is at the window .-.
0 likesWait do you remember that video about discord and the draconequus and stuff like that well when the sisters Celestia and Luna said the birth of a Alicorn is something equestria Has never seen And also Beyond even our understanding and stuff well equestria probably wasn’t even around then and Celestia and Luna were born ailcorns well well Equestria was around When fully was born so ya then is the first to be born A Alicorn in equestria
0 likesI wonder how paerbutter and brightman died or disapiered? What happend to them? Owo?
0 likesnice
0 likesOmg. You know what I just realized!? What if the red goat guy is a human, like from the other world and got a hold of magic to he turned half goat! And he only stays in the pony realm bc they banished him from the human world!?
0 likesThanks YouTube i love not getting notifications for 5 DAYS 5 DAYS
1 likeI make a lot of fan fiction and I could yous this to help with that😏😁😊
0 likesUm can you make a video about why there were a changeling at mathila wedding and if you ask why i Just Said mathilda becuse i cant remeber her husban name😂
0 likesBut the friendship is Magic series is over
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А что насчёт комиксов?
0 likesSince ur a changeling r u reformed sawtooth?
0 likesSawtooth waves did you watch the ending of My Little Pony friendship is Magic if you didn't make an episode of your show on YouTube talking about the ending then I think you should look dude I know you're a human pretending to be this fictional character what's the reason what do you gain they just want to entertain people need don't care if you lie or entertain and you want to make discussions and what ifs related My Little Pony friendship is Magic please tell them the truth that your fans who you really are
4 likesyes! :3
0 likesToo bad mlp is over ( ᵒ̴̶̷̥́_ᵒ̴̶̷̣̥̀ )
0 likesBut isent crysalist stoned?
0 likesmlp is over anyway what can we do about it
0 likesLike they said corona virus dizzeis so do friend ship dizzeis LOL :-D
0 likes2:37 corona virus anyone?
0 likesTo bad the shows over.. I wish
0 likes4:28 ............... I ship it. XD they would be a funny ship if ya don't think about it to hard...
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Cause he is her child
0 likesthis that really ganna happen
0 likesMlp is real
0 likesYes I think so
0 likesYoutube didnt recommend your video so i am late.
0 likesDo you know any other big MLP Channels
0 likesWow I’m only three days late this time
0 likesIm a kid watching this :v
0 likesAre you sure?
0 likesWait Nameless🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
0 likesDo you think spike lothers sunset shimmer
0 likesSuch a shame I'm still here and you don't realize it
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Hi there, Chrystilis.... wanna hug?????? 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
2 likes@Robens Monteau Sure I "love love love" hugs
2 likes@Queen Chrysalis I as a human, give Chrystilis a very big hug. Willingly sharing my love.
1 likeOh wow, it's actually pretty good to emit love. You should try it. 😃😃😃
Refrom king sombuhr
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0 likessame
0 likesRekha DS reformer
0 likesOk yes
0 likesOml this was a year ago?
0 likesThe like watching this for ideas
0 likesI have a joke your a rock rock rok
0 likesno off with there heads
1 likei think you have whach all these show
0 likesChrysalis is too bad.
0 likesDiscord is the TRUE villain of season 9 he bring back the villains and make the mean 3 in pain !
0 likeswho are you in reall life
0 likesThis is a very good theory
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Why not yes
0 likesHmm imma save my comment in the next vid =3
1 likenahh I like avater the last airbender better
0 likesDon't want to see any everything okay so bye-bye haha
0 likesPony so...
1 likeyas
0 likesМожно на русскок
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Good idea
0 likeswow what, are you a psychologist?
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absolutely not
2 likes333 dislikes .-.
0 likesrai
1 likeI think that you should not free hir she might be ………………………………………… sorry but I can’t think 💭
0 likesTrinston was here. . ...
0 likesyou will see hafl your anaser
0 likesi cri ;0
0 likesDo you a World War II pony thing. If you can. Not to be rude.
0 likesRather be bug than be gay rainbow deer
0 likesWOW UR SAMRT UWAHH
0 likesWHAT
0 likesХаха, видимо я один русский
0 likesIly im sorry i cant donate financialy im a kid and dont know how and i have abusive parents im sorry ily
0 likesyes
0 likesyes
0 likesyes
0 likesWhere is here quiy mark?
0 likesYes
1 likeAdopt me has more problems SCAMMERS AND NOOBS
1 likehmmmmm im not sure if your right or not
0 likesBad to be good
0 likesYess
0 likesThat reformed chrysalis send chills down my spine.
2 likesI love this idea and I think if this was canonized it would be absolutely awesome. However, in the episode “Times they are a Changeling”, Thorax said that all the Changelings’ used to do before he took charge was “hunt and patrol”. Even when arguing in favour of the “old days”, Pharynx confirms this, stating that “the hive used to be a fearsome swarm”. If you were going to reform Chrysalis and turn her into a cultural personality, you would need to provide an explanation for why Changeling culture was so underdeveloped, so you would need to dive into the history of the Hive, maybe even a flashback to Chrysalis’ tragic backstory and how she insists on taking love instead of giving back because it was the only way she acquire the love her own mother denied her (see Daughter of Discord by DisneyFanatic2364, the YouTube episodes give Chrysalis’ a beautifully heartbreaking backstory). Chrysalis is one of the most terrifying villains in MLP, both because she refuses to change and because we don’t know much about her. If you’re going to humanize a villain as black-and-white as her, it needs to have a really good story behind it.
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you do realize this could involve training and learning about changeling figures
0 likesImpressive.
1 likeThe shows been over for months and you've managed to keep building on it with new theories.
Kepp it up!
Your Knowledge never ceases to amaze me so keep making more theories.
1 likeMaybe the future elements of harmony weilders like Luster dawn and her friends would break the three from stone and then,rise,recycle,repeat
3 likesI like this. This would be a nice way to redeem everyones favorite buggy queen.
1 likeThat is awesome you did a theory video about Chrysalis! Thank you very much! I think it is a good idea based on your theory on how she would reform. Hopefully the season 10 comics covers something there.
0 likesOr you could tear open a hole between realities and swap these 3 out for their mirror universe counterparts. That way how they act is normal.
1 likeI forgot Pharynx existed, but i think your right on the Money that he'd be the ideal bridge between changelings, and their former Queen.
1 likeI wanted Chrysalis to reform so bad. I love her so much. I agree though, the changelings kinda lost themselves, and this would be the perfect way to reform Chrysalis and bring Changelings their own culture. Its hard though, considering they were so hated for such a long time. They blend in on purpose, so its natural to want to adopt their pony neighbors behaviors as a means to fit in and be considered a good race.
0 likesWhile the Pharynx theory is good, I also think that if Twilight takes the Celestia approach she'll get Luster Dawn and all her friends of different species (maybe even a changeling will be a part of this) to aid in the reformations of all of them, instead of in different situations
0 likesvery solid method of reformation, and very in character for all involved.
0 likeschrysalis looks so beautiful when they change her colors to good
0 likesThis is a very smart idea, and i agree with it.
1 like90% of the reason I wanted Chrysalis to be reformed was because I wanted to see how she would look after she transformed. All the fanart I've seen of the concept is great.
0 likesI agree with you about her motivations, and that it would likely be the best way to go about reformation.
0 likesThe only issue I have is with Chrysalis' "reformed" design. It really just looks way too much like a Changeling-ified Celestia. And since we want her to keep her old personality for the most part, it really doesn't fit her all that well.
We would love to see this as an actual episode.
0 likesI think one of the reasons the changelings abandoned their old culture so swiftly is because what little culture they had was almost exclusively geared towards work. Seeing the hive before the reform, there seem to be no amenities of any sort, just corridor upon corridor. And changelings don't really understand the concept of fun either, unless it's cruelty to one another, which is understandable when you remember that 'the hunger of changelings can never be satisfied', so changelings pre-reformation were essentially always starving, which means they weren't exactly inclined to being nice to eachother and risk giving away what little love they had. So when Thorax shows a new way, ever changeling jumped it because it meant no longer starving, and then they looked at their culture and realized their entire culture they'd lived so far was centred around hurting creatures, mostly for food, which with their newfound empathy terrified them and made them drop it, but leaving little if any actual changeling culture behind and making them reach out to pony culture to fill the void.
0 likesI really hope there's a chance for this show to be revived the new pony series is not my really favorite doesn't hold a lot of what I love about MLP I really hope that they bring out a new student and all that and like you said I want to see the other villains reformed but I'm thinking that new series might be a holdover until they can make the next one who knows, but your theory is great!
0 likesI think this will work or would if the creators of MLP friendship is magic would make another episode. I love Queen Chrysalis so much, I have a toy of her and a changeling too
1 likeThis is extremely interesting and cool
0 likesI seem to like the comic i saw of twilight sparkle entering crysisy's dreams and making her go on a date as herself to learn that without changing she can be accepted or loved. baby steps to accepting others is accepting yourself.
0 likesWould love Cozy as a wing man with her hidden dark humor/attitude.
0 likesI agree with ya on the idea to reform the villains and feel that what could happen is possible
0 likesI think the reformed version of her is beautiful
0 likesMy Cozy Glow theory
1 likeThey seriously need to make a Cozy Glow Origin because if you “tackle” her, you don’t have much to go off of because all we know is
1: She entered Ponyville out of the blue
2: She is terrifyingly intelligent for her age
3: Obviously wants to rule Equestria (like the others)
She is really clever and even managed to lead the mane 6 far away with no magic so she could make her move...
I feel like Cozy Glow is trying to spell something out here... When the six artifacts were all in place, she had to of learned them from Twilight’s school, right??! If not, then they neeeeed to make some sort of Cozy Glow’s Origin because if she did learn it from Twilights school, that means she just used them like a shortcut to rule Equestria. What I mean is, people can use you for only what they need you to spill up. But since they made a school out of it, they’re just giving out pretty useful information that if fell into the wrong hands (which it did) it could have devastating actions. So that’s probably JUST what Cozy Glow needed. Another thing, before Cozy Glow made her move, she was acting so innocent, and made people trust her. That is another thing that made her a dangerous villain. She had people trust her so if they had to choose, they wouldn’t pick Cozy Glow to be that crazy AND she’s a kid! She made a whole school of students trust her into making part of her plan work! She even made Princess Twilight Sparkle believe she was good. So if Cozy Glow gets freed..... Equestria better watch out because An intelligent girl like her can’t come close to trying to rule the world with her knowledge. And ANOTHER ANOTHER thing. Like you said Sawtooth, they can hear EVERYTHING happening. But I think it matters where they get put. So they can hear important stuff. I would talk about Tirek, but I think this comment is a little too long. Again Love your videos Sawtooth!! Great theories!
Here [he] is againnn!! Good points, good logic, good understanding!👏🙌
0 likesI mean the ponies arent colonizing them. It's more like acculturation. I think your reform idea is really good though. We could even have an arc where maybe Thorax doesnt want to be leader or becomes envious of Chrysalis immediately acceptance go slowly become an advisor. I would love to see the development of Changeling culture in general.
0 likesHow are they going to separate the 3 tho?
i think cozy glow's motivation is power
1 likeI'm not sure she'd be happy with anything other than complete power over the other Changelings. That's another stepping stone to get over before she could 'reform', her desire to be in control at all times.
0 likesAlso, personal headcanon - Pharynx totally trained a couple of the other less-cuddly changelings to stand as the hive's army. :P
I had a similar idea/fanfic in mind : as Chrysalis rants and hisses about what the Hive had become without HER, thorax puts his hoof down and goes "I KNOW !!! We WANT you back dammit ! But NOT as you used to be ! Not a fearsome leader full of empty promises and schemes ! We want our queen ! ... If only you'd accept the change, join your people instead of crushing them..."
0 likesAlso, total fanfic here : As Fluttershy explains one on one to Chryssy how she's trying too hard to be bad, how EVERY creature has bad AND good within themselves, but she's been actively repressing her good side, Chrysalis challenges Fluttershy to "show her bad side"... Fluttershy smiles, pushes angel out of the room, then walks next to a table with an apple basket on it.
Chrysalis goes 50 shades of NOPE as crunching ans slurping noises can be heard, then Fluttershy serenely spits out the seeds back in the bowl. "Well ?" Chrysalis.exe error, please try again ;7
This should have been in the show and they still could've gotten grogar in as well by reforming the villains grogar would've been disgusted and attacked himself which would have led to his defeat
0 likesMy two cents is that a key to help reform these three would look at the origins of their psychology.
0 likesFrom my perspective, Chrysalis is the embodiment of Greed. For most, some would have seen her as being privilege as she gets to collect more and more love to the point it seems endless. But, in a very painful, inconvenient truth for her, perhaps the origin of her Greed came from a background where there was a famine of love. For one to become greedy, they have to grow up or experience a time when such resources were very limited. Better for one to store up as much one can than starve. No one who really felt secure would require a greed for love. In other words, the origin of Greed is insecurity. Something to take into consideration when dealing with Chrysalis.
Terik, obviously, is the embodiment of Wrath. Most people tend to think that very angry people are very gloomy types - far from it! In truth, look beneath the anger, and you would find an optimist. It is in fact having too much hope that drives their anger. And when they find that all their hopes are dashed, when their fears have come true, they become angry. Anger is really an intense form of fear. It wouldn't make sense to tell Tirek that he's a terrible being - chances are, he might think this already. Instead, the best way to go about it is to look at what he's really afraid of.
As for Cozy... hers is tricky but perhaps the best interpretation is her lust for power. One has to have grown up in an environment where she had no power and no say in what goes on with her life. This could come up from a wide number of reasons from being ignored for too long, to being emotionally neglected, or simply never been listened to by those she needed to be heard the most from. The reason why one would love to be in power was that they knew what it was like to be powerless.
Hey so love your videos! Chrysalis is a hard subject! But in some episode we saw BABY changlings! So why do they need Chrysalis? I’m a changling my self but still.
0 likesI want her to be reformed just because of the design lol
0 likesWait... I'm not sure if u mentioned this but I remember you said on you previous video that there was this
2 likesweird green pony picture on a locker right?
I think I found him in an episode.... When rarity rereopens her canterloat boutique at the end when her friend(helps at boutique I forgot her name) hugs her, there's this big green pony that walks in HMMMM
This is very close to my own "what if" but I saw it more like she is very proud, and remembers events as Starlight and Thorax stealing her hive, and her race are all traitors. Our theories are the same in that you need Pharynx to reform Chrysalis, for many of the same reasons. But he could also help her see a new perspective. The hive wasn't stolen and the changelings aren't traitors. She ran away and if anything, she's the traitor. But Pharynx would want her to come back and find her new place, largely out of lingering loyalty and respect.
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What bugs me is how she didn't realize its ultimately due to Spike befriending Thorax.
0 likesIt felt like Spike got robbed big time in To Where And Back Again. Having him get a big hand in helping Chrysalis reform would have been interesting.
I think Tirek might be easier to reform than anybody else because he seems childish in a strange way. Chrysalis has a painful past and Cozy glow is to manipulative. (I can't exactly remember) Because in a episode he had some sort of brother that was good. so maybe they could make Tirek's brother help reform him.
0 likesYou should do one talking about King Vlorak/Tirek’s father
1 likeI also have an idea but about cozy glow
0 likesShe can be easily reformed by showing her that friendship is not only power and she may ho back to the school of friendship as a student and learn the real magic of friendship ! What do you think ?
Thorax:i think chrysalis should be my new royal adviser!
0 likesOther advisers:*starting to sweat* are you sure your highness?
Thorax:yes she is reformed!
1 year later Chrysalis makes a coup
Thorax: Why? Why? You where reformed...
Chrysalis: But does that mean my personality has to change? Does that mean i can't be Queen? Of cours not
the reformed Chrysalis is so pretty-
0 likesthere is also the fact that these three villains were provoked while discord was not. Discord was simply doing what he was born to do, friendship gave him a mind of his own in a way, friendship was the first real choice he had. But chrysalis at first was also only following nature, but she was provoked by ponies because she was beaten, later she was beat again but now everything was ripped away in an instant. So imagine this, you are doing what you think is right and basically what you were told To be your whole life, and by being just that everything you ever had was taken. In my opinion tirek would be the easiest. He is much more leaval headed in a way. He is most likely to understand, somewhat. He was punished for his desisions not nature. Cozy is a brat who most likely won't get till shes an adult and even then she can be a brat. For her just don't give her magic and your all fine.
0 likesI agree, but remember that starlight glimmer's relationship with Chrysalis isn't great and would stand out as an obstacle.
0 likesI do find it funny Pharynx is the key to Chrysalis' reformation since he would probably be the changeling most against reformation.
0 likesI want to know about Coze Glow's family. Please do a video about it.
0 likesNext gen Mlp theories??? I approve 👍
0 likeswell she is beautiful when she is form kind
1 likeThe message of them not being reformed was that you can't convince everyone to not be bad.
0 likesYo yo yo. I just realised something. The villains are the elements of witchcraft:
0 likesDiscord - laughter
Chrysalis - honesty
Sombra - kindness
Tirek - loyalty
Starlight - generosity.
But that leaves Nightmare Moon, Pony of Shadows and Cozy Glow. Maybe Nightmare Moon doesn't have an element, Pony of Shadows is magic and Cozy Glow is all of the elements. Idk about these 3
the biggest issue with reforming any of them would be disappearing to parts unknown from what we know of equestria its an almost self sustaining kingdom with more than enough resources to stay afloat with no real reason to explore the world and bridge the cultures around it only close neighboring kingdoms are allied but what I am saying is the villains could go almost anywhere outside of equestra to gain great power
0 likesThis picture in Derpibooru really got things political among ponykind, with Twilight already a big alicorn and also the ruling figure, it makes me wonder would she rethink of Cozy after seeing how she was terrified when she's about to turned to stone.
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i think you got a point there, if you let pharix talk to chrysalis she might re form
0 likesPart of me says no but a bigger part of me says, "Bring Back Bug Queen"
0 likesChrysalis is my fav villian!
1 likeWhat if she isn’t reformable? She created her bugs on magic, love from ponies, so that magic which was taken from the ponies exists in the changelings (like dna) which made them reform.
0 likesWe should make a fanfiction where this happens.
0 likesUm i think i like the buggy idea.i love the editing chrystalis make her look so beautiful
0 likescrissy + fluffle = more evil sawtooth + crissy = light! flurry + crissy = light
0 likesHere's a thought. Just because they were frozen in stone together, does that mean that they have to be released from stone together too? If they can be released one at a time, that will work well in keeping them apart.
0 likesAs for who could help to reform Chrysalis, I think Pharynx is a good first step. But I also think a good changeling to help would be Ocellus. Not in the sense that she would actively help her, but rather, Ocellus would have to face her fears. If it helps to reform Chrysalis, it can kill two birds with one stone. Ocelllus' greatest fear is becoming Queen Chrysalis. But why is she so afraid of Chrysalis? I mean, yeah, she's mean. But that's not much of an explanation.
In any case, let's say that Chrysalis doesn't reform at first. In comes Ocellus, who Chrysalis sees as a young and impressionable mind (although perhaps we may have to go with a daughter or something, considering the time skip). She convinces the child that she's good, and starts acting as a mentor while implanting subliminal messages. Chrysalis would work to put effort into making the child into her ideal version of a changeling. Or to be more specific, like her. But Chrysalis does too good of a job. Now Chrysalis has to deal with her own creation... herself. And Ocellus, with her fear of Chrysalis, has her fear distracted as she sees her own child turned into a Chryssie clone. Chrysalis sees just how cruel she is through the child, realizing just how hurtful she was to her own kind. She asks Ocellus for help. Though apprehensive, Ocellus agrees, since it is her child after all. Ocellus does most of the work, seeing as the familial relationship would be what brings the child back to her senses.
Chrysalis, seeing from the outside just how love was able to defeat her, is now conflicted. Despite the now wimpy changelings, she sees just how powerful a changeling's love actually is. Also, her time with that child has actually grown a bond. But we'll save that for later. This is where the interaction with Pharynx comes in. Again, she doesn't reform immediately, since she hasn't actually discovered love yet... or so she thinks.
She goes back to Ocellus to apologize. She apologizes to Ocellus for everything, including her fear of Chrysalis. And she apologizes to both of them for what she did to the child. Ocellus is still not over her fear. Seeing this, Chrysalis just turns to leave to apologize to the rest of the hive. But she's stopped. Not by Ocellus, but the child. The child then convinces Ocellus to at least talk. Seeing the child, the very one that she used for her own greedy purposes, the one that she had corrupted, was the one sticking up for her... a single tear runs down Chrysalis' cheek as she realizes that despite the original reason for using the child, she had bonded with her. She loved her. And then the metamorphosis happens.
And the rest is what's to be expected.
Did I just write the premise for a masterpiece fanfic?
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Personally, I still believe that the villains' reformation should stick only to the realm of fanfiction. Because I still think it's satisfying to have villains that couldn't be reformed.
0 likesReally fluffy white she could look a little more hardcore come on now. nice artwork.
0 likesFor Cosy Glow, We will need CMC
0 likesI wish all villains could be reformed to the good side right?
0 likesI mean, this is probably the most logical way to do it, but positive reinforcement should be included as well, giving rewards for good deeds instead of punishment for bad ones. This way, she would be more inclined to act good instead of going back to her previously evil ways. Simple animal training comes in handy sometimes.
0 likesthe plan is a good one...cause lets be honest,Thorax may be good at helping others share thier feelings but he is not a confident leader
0 likesIf Chrysalis did return and see the hive under attack,possibly by that giant mole thing again I'm sure her instics would kick in and she would take the thing on...a tattsil ((i have no clue how to spell it)) worm "accidentally" misplaced by Discord could work too
Gotta keep her pride in mind here.
If one of the reformed,even a tough one was to actually hold thier own against her she would feel an even stronger need to obtain more power,but if she's in a situation where they need her,her insticts as a queen will kick in.
If she's welcomed back after earning it,and realising she did it cause she cares for them...that may just be enough.
Also it may just be me,but I would't want her colors to change,the rest of the redesign is good but she'd stand out way more if she kept her colors after the reformation.
You say the three kept dragging each other back, but I don't see it. Chrysalis was the one who kept dragging Tirek and Cozy along. Two times Tirek and Cozy looked about ready to give up in different ways. In Frenemies, they seemed about to embrace Friendship, but Chrysalis' tirade about what it does to people and how she 'saw' it happen made them afraid of the idea. Then in the end of The Ending of the End, Chrysalis spoke up in defiance after the three of them lost their power, and neither of them said anything. When Chrysalis raged about always returning, Twilight had a look on her face that seemed to convey that she was about to offer another chance, but it was snubbed before she could.
0 likesOut of all the reformed villains, Discord stands as an outlier because Celestia took a chance with him on account of seeing a need for his power in the future. Remember Celestia gets visions when she sleeps. She must have seen something that forced her hoof on the matter. Every other reformed villain has always come to some realization, or at least apologized for what they've wrought beforehand. Honestly when I think of the track record of MLP reformed villains, I'm reminded of the exchange in Dragon Ball Z Abridged where Goku lets Vegeta go, especially the bit at the end where Goku says to his friend who has Vegeta held at the point of a sword, "Let him go. If he's sorry, really sorry, then there's nothing we can do".
I wish the series ACTUALLY went this way...
0 likesWe need new episodes just about freeing and reforming them
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s10 comics SOOON!
0 likesThat was pretty cool
0 likesDon't judge them they will come around sooner or later its a chance they need.
0 likesI personally dont like that reformed chrysalis look that much... I just feel like she needs more warm colors instead of all that blue,,
0 likesBut yeah i love the video !
First release cozyglow first, and before she can escape cast a spell to remove her cutiemark *which would prevent her ability to trick ponies since her mark was obviously linked to that*.
0 likesThen she would be FORCED to understand true friendship, instead of being power.
Tirek,,, Could be easy... Stick him in a cage with pinkie until he goes crazy xD
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Yay, Starlight is using her powers. As you know, she can remove her cutie mark.
0 likesI think your theory of reforming Her could work.
0 likes5:22 hopefully twilight DOESN'T choos to be like Celestia
0 likesThe only reason she wanted to reform discord was because of his power, and luna was her sister
She never gave cozy, tirek, chrysalas, sombra, ect a second thought (she sent a little filly to hell)
And her mentor (starswirl) kick his own friend out of the team and then send him to tarterus
That's why it's better to be mortal, new people come with fresh fews on the world
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Technically Stygian when he was the pony of shadows wasnt sent to tartarus but trapped in limbo. Then they were going to try and banish the pony of shadow's again. The sombra from the show is different then the sombra from the comics. The comic version had a better shot at redemption and actually did have it. Though not counting the mirror version. Tirek may be the kind of villain who can't be redeemed. And as for Cozy <shrugs> not enough info on her.
0 likesYour so smart i never thought of this!
0 likesReformed Chrysalis looks like a changeling version of Princess Celestia without the rainbow main and tail
0 likesReformed Chrysalis is actually creepier then regular Chrysalis.
0 likeshow about putting them against a harmony infused king sombra? i mean he is still somewhere out there maybe in limbo or who knows but he could study some things and then do like in that comic where he confronts twilight only to force her to use his magic against him, let's think about a scenario where this happens but is not about how she uses her magic but about how she rules equestria, naturally it will start with that fight over who is worse because they can control umbrum magic, but after that what if sombra actually show her what just happened and make a side comparation between hie rule over the crystal empire and her rule over equestria
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0 likes1) I honestly hoped to see at least Chrysalis and Cozy Glow get reformed in the finale.
2) Tirek on the "other hoof" (according to what I can recall in the comics) I kinda saw him (and Tempest Shadow/Fizzlepop Berrytwist) as more like most anime (or even real life villains) are like. As in if they got into a losing situation while still at their most (like what the storm soldiers got into during the movie) and if the heroes try to be merciful by telling him to "never hurt any living creature for as long as you live;" I honestly think his last word would have been something like "ON MY HONOR! I PROMISE I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL AND LIVE, AT ALL COST!"
3) I think the best reasons why Chrysalis did not end up getting reformed though out the series was because;
a] Like she said in "Frenemies" she attacked Equestria numerous times before and always found a way to escape her prisons and return.
b] Like both the comic books and the series confirmed it "love" to her and any unreformed Changeling is like what "food and water" would be to like any other living creature and like Thorax said in the season 6 finale "Changelings are always hungry," which I guess meant that in some way unreformed Changelings are like caterpillars and maybe reformed Changelings are like Butterflies.
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Congrats on releasing your novel!
0 likesImagine if lord Tirek vs dragon lord torch
1 likeVideo idea: The other creatures in the equastria girls world, what do they look like? Where are they?
0 likesthey just need to know where Fuffle Puffs live and bring one of them to live with Chrysalis
0 likesIsn't the sun a star so if Princess Celestia can control the sun doesn't that means you can control the Stars so any villain trapped in the stars would be able to escape and at that moment she was also controlling the moon so should be able to let Princess Luna out but this is just my hypothesis I wouldn't she be able to grow got out of his present in the stars she's like a villain out before shot him out of stone to create balance in the scale what to say she won't do the same with grow
1 likeEh.. I was thinking about like
0 likesDiscord was free from his prison cause of a fight of a friendship and he is also turn to stone by the magic of friendship so it still make sense in 'general'.
Now we're talking about freeing those 3, they are frozen by the power of sun, moon and chaos. Now dis complicate things also the power of the artifact is strong but can it defeat chaos? Chaos is like untamable right? What do u think?
Chrysalis is my favourite villain in mlp,
1 likeI wish we could actually see if this would happen shame the shows over
0 likesOhhhh I remember chrysalis she's from season 5 episode 15!
0 likesThreaten to sacrifice her to Rarchord Grarchordson. If she doesn't listen, sacrifice her to our lord and savior Celestia because I REFUSE to support Rarchord Grarchordson's vile actions.
1 likeFLUFFPUFF for reform chrysalis we need FLUFPUFF
1 likeWow........I never thouth of it that way I all was thouth she would be evil FOREVER. But I gess ever one deserves a second chance
0 likesCan y’all try to tell the creator of mlp bout this XD they need to know, this would make a great movie
0 likesChrysallis is so beutifull 😍😍❤❤❤🤩🤩🤩👍👍
0 likesIt's ridiculous that Thorax took over, EAW has thought me that the harmonist revolution is nigh on immpossible.
1 likeI think sawtooth Should be in the show
0 likesOk so I have a theory that is out of the blue, does not connect at all with this, and I’m not even sure if you’ve covered this since I am new to this channel, but if you haven’t, please hear me out. I’m not going to be super specific, since I can’t really be, so just bear with me😅.
1 likeThe mane 6 got their cutie marks at the same time, what a coincidence, or is it? They never really address this issue, they sort of brush it off. I don’t think it just happened, what if cutie marks, please no hate, are not earned when you find out what your passion is, or what not, what if it’s destiny, or some part of it, and everyone has one, big or small. Here is why-
The mane 6 got their cutie marks, at the same time as when Rainbow Dash did the sonic rainboom, everyone DID display their element, there is always that, sure. But, it’s not exactly right. You never know, they could have displayed their element so many times in the past, they might have better yet done it in the future, but they all got it, at this specific moment, where Rainbow Dash did the impossible, the legend. And if you think about it, cutie marks are already determined at birth, cuz I’m pretty sure nomader what, they would have had this cutie mark anyway, so like I said before, destiny. And you might argue about how they showed their element, which is their cutie mark, ok then, true, but-
Let’s look at Twilight Sparkle as an example, sure she did magic, her element, but let’s be real, she’s not exactly magic more friendship, and the only reason she was able to do that, was when the sonic rainboom happened, I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t have done it without the help of the rainboom, where’s the friendship in that?
Fate/destiny, whatever, choose the moment, where they were, in a way, all lined up together, all together to show case the elements, in a way🤔. They all saw the rainboom, or did it(aka rainbow). Also, it could have been just about anyone, but that rainboom made everyones paths match, so they were the... correct candidates? And now that I think about it, what about everybody else, they saw it, and though their is no proof, I’m pretty sure nothing happened to them. You might say, they didn’t do it at the same time, maybe not, but it mostly was.
And about everyone else, I don’t have much evidence on them, and I probably got some things wrong, I’m not an expert, it’s just a theory😅
If you made it all this way, thx, please tell me what you think, not sure if he’s gonna see this, but I needed to take a shot, right?
It's been soo long since I have seen anything my little pony related
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0 likesUm, no, that's entirely your opinion on things. Side note to your side note: Magical effects can sometimes take on the form of electricity. The Sisters agreed to turning the villains to stone with Discord, not blasting the cupcake for him; something pitifully easy for any mage with marginal skill. It's a cupcake for crying out loud.
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However, logically speaking Discord should be able to do it anyways.
0 likesI wouldn't attribute the loss of changeling culture primarily to pony colonialism; I'd attribute it more to changelings wanting to distance themselves from an unpleasant past. Under Chrysalis, the changelings did a lot of bad things and life was bad (as evidenced by how quick most changelings were to follow when Thorax offered a better way). The changelings don't want anything to do with that. Think for example of modern Germany; it is illegal to do things like display Nazi symbols or deny that the Holocaust happened, because modern Germany does not want a repeat of Hitler and does not want there to be any ambiguity about them being anti-Hitler. The changelings presumably feel similarly, but unlike Germany they don't have any past that predates Chrysalis. All of their original culture is tainted by association, and while they are throwing the baby out with the bathwater to some extent it's not just Thorax doing the throwing.
0 likesAnd on a related note, I doubt it's the loss of culture that Chrysalis is really against. It's the loss of power. Chrysalis is a proud queen, used to being feared and obeyed without question, and I really don't think that's changed in the time since she was deposed. She's not wrong, either, that she could never reclaim that sort of absolute power if she accepted friendship into her life; friendship requires accountability to others. And that's not to mention how she presumably associates friendship with those she hates most and still desires revenge against: Thorax and Starlight, who brought friendship in to ruin her hive. That means that as long as she believes she can get revenge and reclaim her rightful throne she'll never let herself be reformed. She needs to be broken down to her base parts, because proud Queen Chrysalis can never get what she wants with friendship and so has no incentive to change. Only once she has given up completely can she be rebuilt into a harmonious member of society.
Reforming Chrysalis would not be a pleasant process for anycreature involved.
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I wished she acknowledged Spike too due to he's the one who befriended Thorax and led that stuff to happen.
0 likesI have a idea for a new video but first let me tell you that when I was watching your previous video's I just noticed you said sunset shimmer is or could be the 5th alicorn but you forgot flurry heart and what if sunset shimmer bumped into her human self
0 likesAll the dislikes are from chrysalis's alt accounts
1 likeI wish MLP wasn't over
1 likeOk ok, off topic but like, twilight is going to have to live through her friends dying
0 likesReformed chrissy is cute
1 likeThat's not the problem. The problem is that Chrylias was cold-hearted and cruel, not one ounce of warmth had come from her at all.
0 likesI don't want Chrysalis to be reformed. She is wonderful as she is. A changeling. A queen. A mother. A warroir. Thorax is an effing traitor and usurper, and must be demolished
0 likesOOF. you tackled them for real
0 likesshe OK??? i love her.
3:13
0 likesNo one:
Sawtooth: New culture. Who dis?
Everyone: New culture. Who dis?
Me: Who dis? Nan idaero neomu jeoeungeol bakkuryeo geuljima nae seutaireudaero sara~~(Singing "Who Dis?" by Secret Number lmaoo)
Sorry :)
P.S. Reformed Chrysalis is so pretty <3
I never shipped Thorax and Chrysalis until now
0 likesOmg
0 likesQueen Chrysalis and King Thorax!!! We have to come up with this ship name
Aww man, I missed this by one day!!!!!!!!
1 likeWhen cozy glow will be free se will be a little grown up like CMC...... If mean 3 will be free maybe they will get a chance or.....maybe not or....well no one is sure ....the thumbnail you have put is so beautiful I love your & dr wolf's channel you are awwwwwwwwsome 😊😊😊😊
0 likesWait what episode were they turned into stone again-
1 likeI think no one like that chrysalis but this one is very good looking
0 likesHey i had this throught about equestria girls. For every pony theres a human variation. However sunset originally was a pony and became human when going through the portal and yet we never see the humans worlds version of sunset. We only see the pony turned to human. Why is that?
0 likesYes.
2 likesThats all i have to say.
Wait if you go back to season 8 of my little pony then you find cosy gloya reason why she is evil, and sunset shimmer or starlight glimmer can reform her
0 likesi think this should be season 10
0 likesThe good chrysalis looks hot
1 likemy fav villane is nightmare moon and i love luna and i love chrysalist
0 likesI’m getting Game Theory vibes from this vid :D
1 likegreat plan
0 likesSawtooth Waves is Film Theory but MLP Version
0 likesWow good idea
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Your the best sawtooth waves
0 likesBruh She Cange To Beautiful Bug Pony Ever So Beautiful than Princess Candace Noe i Know why Shining Armor can be controlled By Chrysalis
0 likesChrysalis will be pretty
0 likesRemember that ep where twilight said who that than Celestia said the lost princess of the empire that cadence ruled ya ee all new that was her so maybe she will only look slightly different than right now that might be her reform
0 likesfeeling disgusted by the idea of Chrysalis being reformed and is against it That's the most foolish idea I ever heard! No reforming for Chrysalis, after what she did to Princess Celestia in the 2 part episode, "The Royal Canterlot Wedding", she doesn't deserved to be reformed and she deserved to be turned to stone!
0 likesYass reform the chrysalis
0 likescan she TRANSFORM?????????
0 likesIf Chrysalis is a princess don't you think she should be with the other princesses maybe that would help her with her friendship problem
0 likesWhere can I watch all seasons of my little pony?
0 likesSawtooth i have a theory. look at mist manes horn. then look at king sombras. they came the same village
0 likesU know I actually knew that Chrysilis (not sure about spelling) would change
0 likes5:33 OH GOSH I THOUGHT YOU HAD NO EYES
0 likesSome villains don't GET reformed.... such as King Sombra.
0 likesyesss Chrysalissss
0 likesmy fav character kinda XD
Omg I need chrysalis to formmmmm she loooks soo pweeettyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
0 likesI have to question for you I think shining armor won’t be an hour, because he’s frayed of heights want to fly he’ll never fly and second question is I think not not starlight glimmer going to be a Alcorn I saw the future there’s a best student of twilight I think she will be at the Alcorn that I will think FYI there is any reason about it make it in a video
0 likesAfter all this time- he still has 73 comments 😂
1 likeWhere do you find these videos and season 10 i wanna watch it U-U i need to catch up ti my childhood show ;(
1 likeFANFICTION WRITERS TO YOUR KEYBOARDS!!!!!
0 likesShe just needs a vaccination.
0 likesPharynx: Le smack
0 likesQueen Crys: Nvm I be gud
I got it theory what if the change form now is were original form but They were cursed In some sort of way to make them look like they were before. But who curse them and why. Just something I was thinking about.
0 likesthose twilight student tranfrom her a alocron
0 likesI am I the only one here wondering what's up with Sawtooth and Yoshi Darklord lmao?
0 likesSeason 9 was the last season so why mlp still have many unsolved mysteries
0 likesThis is about reforming Cozy glow so what if shes evil because her entire family died i mean its makes since since she is just a filly and has no guardian if she did she wouldn't become evil unless her parents were abusive that would also make sense
0 likesSo does anyone else ship pharynx and chrysalis after this video
0 likesOne thing my little pony are doneno more than
0 likesThis theory was kinda... cUtE?!
0 likes#Queen Papilyon
0 likesWow this boi really likes rainbows😂🤣🤣😂
0 likesI think ur right sawtooth waves
0 likesSawtooth, please talk to sliver quill
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pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
0 likesYou are rite!!!
0 likesShe cannot reform its hard🙄
0 likesDo you think sunset shimmer raises the sunset or sets
0 likesBug mom needs help lol
0 likesSomepony's been watching The Good Place. :P
0 likesThe MLP show already ended D:
0 likesIm a fan
1 likeHow are would they do that if mlp g. 4 is gone!?
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Movie or special
0 likesDude where can I watch the last season??
0 likesNice video ❤️
0 likesuhh no need to reform them ... especially Chrysalis cuz she doesn't interested at all .. just KILL em for meh !!! 😂🤣
0 likesPls answer this
0 likesWhy are earth ponies called earth ponies even when they don't live on earth
Sawtooth it’s my brothers birthday 🍰🥳
0 likesMidLight Stars
0 likesWhat could have happened to Chrysalis did did your video come true or is she still evil and she doesn't want to change like all the other reforms changelings oh and by the way is I'm sorry for like commenting so late I actually lost my phone sorry but what if since terick was like wait gave French like they were bonding with friendship when they went to get girl guards Belle and maybe she wants to change or she still wants a secret revenge or what could have have a T-Rex and cozy glow do they want to change maybe well if the villains broke out of the stone like discord did at least one of the nieces change I mean Chrysalis can still rule rule her pack right well T-Rex could help discord with whatever he does all day and cozy glow can help twilight with the school or maybe even help princess Celestia and princess Luna so they don't fight again what's going to happen to the changelings please make another video quick but T-Rex he doesn't have his magic where will he get it The magic of friendship okay so T-Rex can I don't know just like run around or something but he still has some magic cuz he has friends right
0 likesThis one I Agree but not the look
0 likesI dident reckonize you XD
0 likesOmg
1 likeHow abaut you satooth make the new sezon of my little pony frendship is magik I think you wood have excellent ideas you are still making videos and imagening thet there's going to be a nother sezon and the ideas are very good I now that it's hard to do them but we fans will apresheade the work that you put in
0 likesYou pikt queen chrysalis becose your a qengling
Good...
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Ggggghghhhggg(I'm a banana)
What about ocellus
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who is that
0 likesAmen
0 likesYessss
0 likesHi i"m jurice i can make the diffecerents about of twilight wedding the equtsria girls and my little pony
0 likesTwilight does not wants to see them what are you talking about well nice plan
0 likesThis would make sense but what if she doesn't want to be reformed
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But one thing that still confuses me if if you get them out of that stone what how would you separate them this Discord can be there for each one of them but how you going to keep them in one area T-Rex can steal Magic cozy glow is small in a Philly and can fly how do you keep them contained that's what I want to know
0 likesHmmmmm, okay.
0 likesNo offense, but is this why Japan appreciates American culture so much? Do they think their prewar culture is that associated with imperialism and colonialism?
0 likesby the way, you shouldn't say all those names at the end. it's annoying.
0 likese.e
2 likesReally I've nothing to say but that's the only way that I think that's gonna happen by pc by pc by that make her feel loved for big kids oh racks or whatever his name is yeah so racks and show him and Tell her I have him tell her the story and what Is that all the name with love and all he lost his hunger for for love Have him say the more that they have them or if they want it the less that can get
0 likesPlease please please a flying person
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I hate myself
0 likesThat's useless now cause
1 likeMY LITTLEPONY REMAKE LOL
HORRIBLE IT IS
Ну это.
0 likesТипо, привет
Are you trying to be rude but there’s no way you’re going to be reformed because these villains are in in in toilet is that means the cake if you split them apart so just find a way to get together again and make more chaos
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i feel like at least one of them would pretend to be reformed
0 likesYes
1 likeNo to good
0 likesI Hate this topic about Tierek, Crhisalas and Cozy Glow being freed from stone if you keep talking about this topic I will not subscribe. 😒💀🖤🐎🤯🤪👽👻👎🏿
0 likesYeah they were working together but...........
0 likeswhy?
1 likeMENTIRASAA BUUU
0 likesYes
0 likesF
1 likeShe îs very redeemeble în The 3rd universe
0 likesYes
0 likesOh my goodness, when will I get used with Sawtooth Waves?? Every time I see you post a video, my first thought is "The Brony Notion!" And then "...wait, no-".
2 likesAnyway, I like the idea of them being reformed and I agree with your way of doing it. Changeling culture is a mystery and it's a pity to not get to know it. Chrysalis could be the one to change things
Okay so, I have another theory. The Young 6 all do represent the elements of harmony. If you look at the last episode where at the end when they sang the song magic of friendship and at the end showed all Characters that resembles too the mane 6 chacters. So SilverStream represents the element of laughter, this actually makes total sense because In a lot the episodes You can see, how she wants everyone to be happy and always makes everyone laughs, just like pinky. Yona represent honesty, she is always honest with he group and in ever episode we have seen in her, she always never afraid to speak the truth. Smolder represents loyalty, the way she’s loyal within In the group and in most of the episodes when some one gets in trouble, she’s the first one to Volunteer to pay the same price as them, and just go back to the episodes and you can see her loyalty. Sandbar represents kindness, I’m School Daze he was the one, the only pony In the school you really wanted to be with the other creatures, and also just go back to all the other episodes he acts literally just like flutter shy. Ocellus represents Generosity, I’m one episode you can see her giving her friends notes 📝 for the hw, and always helping them study and etc, u can see in the episodes how she resembles rarity. Well, the last one I don’t have a clue, the last one points to Gallous idk how he represents magic, but he’s some one resemblance to Twilight. Please give to a like so He can see it!
3 likesOne I love the reform chrysalis design two I feel like chrysalis would be the harder of the 3 to reform and while I agree with the culture thing I think another reason chrysalis doesn’t wanna embrace friendship is because she feels abandoned by her people let’s face it her whole character was all about keeping her and her subjects alive though feeding suddenly thorax comes along with friendship and changes everything her subjects no longer need her to live I think that feeling of abandonment and betrayal is the root of why she remained a villian she wanted her people back so that above everything else has to be tackled for her to be reformed
2 likesIt will be a proud day in changling history when our lost queen's stone cold heart is finally melted!
2 likesSuch a great video. Glad that someone finally pointed out thorax's not very good leadership. I can't wait for cozy glow's and tirek's video I really wanna see how to redeem them
1 likeYou know we never see or hear about them or the statue in the final episode so its possible they could have been released and reformed during the time jump
2 likesI like this idea a lot! I’ve always found it sad that the changelings thought they had to emulate pony culture since they lost all of theirs. This is what the hive needs: their identity back!
0 likesI really like the thumbnail! It’s super cute!
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Didn't Changeling culture involve stealing love from other creatures, though? If so; then, it IS a good idea that Thorax abolished it.
1 likeSuch tactics are pretty evil, any way you look at it
This one is one of my favorites of your theories (the other being pinkie with the discord magic). Definitely plausible and a great idea
0 likesHonestly, the hive really need Chrysalis back, or they're going to go extinct
2 likesThis is so perfect! I just hope some day the creators of mlp will do something like this! Also reformed Crysalis is really cute uwu
0 likesWhy is my only thought
2 likes"What if the prince of light(aka Flurry Heart) is reforming one of the villains using the crystal heart in the stained glass window?"
I love Chrysalis's reformed form. That being said I also adore her unreformed form just as much. ❤
0 likesIt be amazing to see her reformed because I love her as a villain I'd love to see her reformed side
0 likesShe looks beautiful :) i wish they made an episode of that :)
0 likesI love the way the reformed form looks!
0 likesShe looks so beautiful reformed!!!
0 likesI’m excited to see how the other villains will be reformed.
0 likesErase their memories and then teach them about friendship and tell them about who they were before. After, you can either choose to give them their memories back or keep them the same.
1 likelet her reform but allow her to keep her old look. she's beautiful already and perfect. dont be afraid to be yourself Chryssy
0 likesSimply genius!
0 likesI have a theory about Tirek. (I just wrote it)
1 likeTirek got his powers from the Staff of Sacanas.
How: a piece of the staff’s crystal broke out & went down the throat of ether a very young Tirek or his mother while she was still pregnant with him. This also happen to Sendak the Elder.
Evidence: the staff can preform the same magic as Tirek, in an unused prologue for the movie reveals that the Storm King stole the staff from an older version of Scorpan, Tirek’s younger brother.
I wish we could have seen this in the real show 😭
0 likesReformed Chrysalis is sooooooooooooooooooooooo beautiful!
0 likesWhat could also help us getting to know her psyche. Getting to know her from a psychological point of view will help her see that they're not just out there to reform her like the others were.
0 likesLet's see... From a more psychoanalytic perspective, we have to get to know how where her hunger for vengeance and control come from. Where did she come from? Where is her original hive? Did they grow up to be similar to Chrysalis? What were her parents like?
From a more trait point of view, we can see that there's some biological and genetic factors that lead to her possessiveness, anger, denial, etc. It's innate in their biology to hunger for love. So, since might steal it to satisfy their hunger. Some, like Thorax and his kingdom, is to live one another. Their hunger is satisfied. The biggest and most important thing to her reformation from this perspective would be starving for love. As dark as it is, Thorax and Pharynx could slow Chrysalis that kind of love and friendship. For her to hear that this is how they've felt when the juice was stealing love from others. She would feel that spark of friendship forming in her, firm that friendship and promise to share the love. That's when she would transform.
From a behavioral viewpoint, it's purely looking at what she's learned from her previous hive. How she learned to take that love from others and helping her slowly learn to share the love and create that love for her hive. It would take a lot of trial and error, as learning to do something new takes time and positive reinforcement. She's learned to take that love, it will be hard for her to learn to give love to others.
Finally, the social cognitive aspect of personality theory. Simply by observing others giving that love. She needs to observe how to make those changes for herself. Throughout her life, she has seen her old methods work time and time again, but she hasn't taken into account that her subjects hunger wasn't truly satisfied. They were always hungry. And to bring that aspect where she learns after ages presented with that information from Pharynx and Thorax would help her truly see that her subjects were right to reject her old ways as now, they're never hungry. She wants to not feel that hunger for love anymore and accepts the new way of life while teaching the hive about their history.
I think that’s such a good idea! They should’ve done it!
0 likesIt would be cool if Luster dawn and the friends she made could help reform all three of them :D
0 likesI love this!
0 likesBeautiful Cris ❤
0 likesI agree with your idea for Chrysalis' reformation. Actually, the whole first part of the video, I was hoping you'd bring up tsunderebug (Pharynx), because he represented the balance between the warriors they used to be and the lovebugs they became. It's a great idea that Pharynx is the one that could help Chrysalis embrace friendship. I'm looking forward to seeing the reformation ideas for Tirek and Cozy.
0 likesI think to reform chrysalis is that showing the love between the changelings 😊
0 likesHi I’m a new subscriber I love my little pony it’s so great Queen chrysalis is one of my favorite characters
1 likeawwww she looks adoraable :D
0 likesNow that you mention it, this could work with her. Have like a messenger that was the most stubborn on reforming actually confront Chrysalis and showing that there are different types of friendship. At least she could help reconnect the past of she gives up her tyrannical thoughts and disgust of ponies and friendship.
0 likesI think you're forgetting the fact that Chrysalis doesn't just want her subjects back but she also has the inevitable desire to consume love from whoever she meets. I guess to fully reform her, you would also have to tackle her belief that consuming love is the only way to go.
0 likesIf all of the alicorns had a fight to reform Chrysalis, something might get more strong then her power, reforming her.
0 likesthis makes me wish there was still more episodes
0 likesYou said once in the Changeling Civil War video, that Thorax couldn't lay eggs for the changelings. And, you are right. Kings can't lay eggs, only Queens. In theory, all the changelings could possibly go extinct if Chrysalis doesn't reform. 😬 I think Twilight needs to step up her game quick...
0 likesokay but can i just point out how good that reformed chrysalis design looks?
0 likesIt would help if we knew more of Her Majesty's back story, and about Changelings in general. Is there only one hive? If so, why? Why has it taken until now for the Changelings to find out about their ability, even destiny, to change into the love sharing form? I wonder about the future of the Hive, if the Changelings are modeled after social insects, as they appear to be, then the Queen is the ONLY egg layer, which means that the hive literally is made up of her sons and daughters. If true (I said "if") then for Chrissy this is way personal beyond just being about her having command and control, she's literally been cut off from her family. It also means that with no new changelings being born the clock is already ticking down to extinction for the hive. That might explain why why she wants the hive back so much instead of just starting a new one. Of course she's going about it all wrong, but that's what she has to get her head around yet. And her heart.
0 likesIt's an interesting idea but the issue is that Changeling culture was being starving drones and that's how Chrysalis liked it cause that meant she was always in charge. The Changelings embraced their new culture because it allowed them to be free and individual. Chrysalis pushed a culture of hostility and insular paranoia.
0 likesI'm going to stan reformed Chrysalis from now on-
0 likesI mean do we really know what Changeling culture was before Chrysalis's rule? For all we know they were similar to Ponies in the beginning but over time Queens sought to take only love and not embrace it thus turning them into the creatures that hungered after love and became aggressive and actually distant from their original identities. I could see Thorax and Pharynx finding this out with help from Twilight and anyone who would know about the Changelings of old and help to either fight back Chrysalis and help her see the truth or to just let her see the truth without fighting.
0 likesI always have watched all of ur videos and all are awesome 😎
0 likesHey Sawtooth Waves It could be possible that Chrysalis might have sisters with their own hives and might of found different emotions to feed on but might have side effects depending on the emotion they eat and they might want to fight Thorax for what he did to Chrysalis but it is just a theory that I am giving you an idea of if you catch my drift
0 likesThat's an interesting theory. But here is a problem I have with the idea of reforming the 3 of them. That even after being fully reformed, I would certainly not want to have the 3 of them ever gathered together again. It would not take too much for a trigger to set them back down a path together towards evil. But herein lays a possible answer in Tirek. He is old, not by Discord's Standards but old enough to pre-date Nightmare Moon.
0 likesIf Cozy and Crysalis could be reformed, then Cozy could live out her days before they release Tirek and risking her Influence on him. He is pretty smart when he's not letting the power control him, but I don't think it would be wise to have her voice in his ear again. On the flip side, he has now been defeated 3 times. That would give him some pause for reflection if he had the opportunity to talk it out without risking him getting any power. As such, Discord would be the ideal to handle this. As for Cozyglow? How can you reform that twisted mind? She's a manipulator, even Starlight would have her hands full trying to deal with that mess and she's an expert.
i think cozy and flurry will be good friends once shes reformed
0 likesSuch a good video 👍
0 likesAnother reason why the hive needs Queen Chrysalis is so that she can keep giving birth to changelings, because all of the changelings are siblings and they can't have babies because of that.
0 likesMan I really wanted to see if Chrysalis turn good like the rest of chrysalis. And I still think Discord is the strongest of the mlp universe.
0 likesYour idea about reforming chrysalis make a certain amount of sense. Pharyx could be the key to reforming chrysalis as he is probably the only one who could do it. But it also shows that there really needed to be different changeling hives with there own queens who didn't copy some pony traditions an kept fully changeling while being friendly with ponykind. as for reforming the three unfreezing them one at a time would be the best option that way you still have two frozen if the first goes rogue.
0 likesThis is a really good theory, but I’m a big Cozy Glow fan, so I can’t wait for that one! But when Cozy Glow almost killed Twilight Sparkle, I was the most exited, sorry Twilight fans...
0 likesI NEVER KNEW WHAT SHE WOULD LOOK LIKE!!!!!! And would she be Queen of the Reformed Changelings?
0 likesOk who else loves the way that reformed chrysalis looks?
0 likesWell Thorax said that all the changelings did before was hunt and patrol, so they wouldn’t have any good ways to come back to. And I don’t think it’s acting like ponies, they just like some of the things ponies did and decided to do it themselves. And we didn’t see any kind of houses or anything, and plants grow everywhere, so that’s some non pony things they do.
1 likeFor cozy glow...she went evil because she thought she had the power to do so. So maybe she should be showed to a friend group with no magic (unless unicorns, or pegasus: so rule the out the main 6, the young six, and the cutie mark crusaders because they all had at least one experience with powerful friendship magic) spending time with them and not gaining anything magic related out of it she may realize the real friendship, cozy was more then willing to be friends with everyone even her partners in crime, that’s not the problem, the problem is what she thinks it can do. Maybe Tula Rula and Coconut Cream would be a good fit???
0 likesThe very concept of family is what could finally get to these three. Tirek hates his family, Chrysalis misses her family, and Cozy.....well, let's assume she has none. Tirek needs to make amends with his brother who he hates for "betraying" him (and probably also his father due to what Tirek said about Vorak), Cozy Glow either needs to find her parents if she has any, or accept a new family consisting of some of the protagonists, and Chrysalis needs to reunite with the hive and accept the fact that her loyalty to them is more important than how "good" she might have to be.
0 likesI have a thought but it's about the turning to stone thing theory (forgive my spelling) so when they froze discord all it took was a little fight to set him free so maybe it will take a bigger fight to set them free because they used way more magic then they did on discord they used discords magic too and discord is REALLY powerful we saw all his magic when terek drained it and discord can make the world look like chaos with the snap of his fingers. Thats all I would really like if you explained this in one of your videos.
0 likesI can definitely see why she considers it a sickness. Once they accepted it they all physically changed. I think another problem is that she felt betrayed by the hive. She had been in charge for a long time after all. One reason why I love her as a villain is that she is the most relatable. She isn't "evil" for the sake of it (at least not at first...) she was "evil" so she could feed her hive. The first time we see her she points out the reasons for her taking over was for the hive and not just for her personal reasons. She feels they survived for as long as they did because of her. So when they threw her away seemingly it must have felt like a huge slap to her face. (And to her ego...) I don't think only getting her to see that their new image isn't as bad as she thinks would be enough. You would have to make her see that the changes were an improvement and that she was still needed and wanted. She IS their mother after all...
0 likesYou took the words right out my mouth
0 likesI think part of the problem is that changelings most likely had no culture to begin with? As in, the original changelings had no culture
0 likesI can't imagine them having holidays or birthday celebrations or any type of celebrations whatsoever
Their objective was to survive and feed off
So maybe instead of taking from pony culture they should have created their own?
What if the royal sisters didn't destroy the cupcake, but teleported it to the other place so they could eat it later?
0 likesThis sounds much more like a true
after the reformation, Chrysalis would aid Thorax in ruling the Changelings. but it's only a matter of time before the two speak of things of another matter, and from the council to the royal bedroom. get the hint? E.G they would become lovers and a proper power couple with an heir or two to succeed them. after all the importance of a royal dynasty is to have a lot of descendants to carry on your legacy.
0 likesI agree with you about reforming them once a time but what if they start a rebellion with changeling against twilight and led to distraction
0 likesHow do they feel about their daughter turning evil then being turned to stone?
0 likesShe looks so pretty. Can u make a video about king Sombra.
0 likesI got nothing to dump this theory but I really enjoyed it 😁
0 likesSounds like cozy cuz everyone in the My Little Pony Universe act like children like what Cozy did understand the magic of friendship I mean she went to the school of friendship what if reforming she had to do it on her own like you have to know how to get well with yourself before you can get well with other people maybe she just going to school bus work Media destroy the fun and being friendly like when she was a villain shoes free to do what she wanted
2 likesrw:for them to be all reformed ,it will take one hoof at a time Sawtooth Waves .
0 likesHmm. This definitely sounds plausible.
0 likesMind if I use this method in my fanfics?
That makes sense, but I wanna know Cozy's parents, i mean like she's a pegaus so her parents should be pegasi... i read my My Little Pony Character Guide which it haves all of the ponies of questria, i read all of the info about Cozy Glow but it says nothing about her parents or a picture about them
0 likesCozy Glow in three words: subtle, persuasive, opportunistic
Nothing much about her in the book so i search Google
I saw Cozy Glow's parents but i don't think its real... her dad's skin colour is blue and his mane is also blue, just like Cozy's... her mom's skin and mane colour is light red, her eyes are darker red, just like Cozy's. Her big brother's skin colour is blue just like his dad, its strange that his eye colour is blue🤔, more starnge his mane is purple. I think its his mom and his dad combined their hair into purple, coz u know, red and blue makes purple, i know. It combines red and blue mane into purple mane...
I searched Google once more for her parents and her brother names but there was nothing...
Also we havent seen her parents or her brother in I think in Season 8 or 9, i dunno i didnt watch that season yet, even tho im a fan of My Little Pony😆😆😆
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I think that twilight should help all the villains in the show even king sombra, and maybe grogar
0 likesYESSSSS YOU MADE THE VIDEO also wow that thumbnail art is beautiful
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0 likesTHIS IS SO COOL
0 likesAbout the changing conspiracy video there is evidence that they are asleep because in the mlp movie when tempest was unstoned she seemed to have no idea that the storm king was gone and there is evidence that it is temporary because as you said it was only discord who cast the spell and discord is less powerful than the elements of harmony and they only cast a temporary spell.
0 likesChrysalis looks vert pretty at the reformed ver
0 likesReforming those three will be a dangerous thing to do but I’m not afraid to reform those three, because I accept that as a challenge. Perhaps I can start with Queen Chrysalis first so I will propose to her on Halloween.
0 likesSomething to delve into should be why the Changelings attacked Equestria. If they’ve been around for a few thousand or even just a few hundred years, then shouldn’t they have already had a stable kingdom? Did something force them out of their old home, something that didn’t use magic? It is never really explained why Chrysalis invaded the Royal Wedding other than to feed her hive.
0 likesBut, if changelings used to always be starving and played mostly infiltrator roles, why did they suddenly expose themselves to the spotlight? Chrysalis is an experienced Queen, her ability to manipulate ponies with just words was pretty impressive. I still find it hard to believe that a manipulator of that level didn’t have a back up plan for the wedding. She must have weighed the risks that could come with trying to challenge Equestria considering it’s rulers can move the freaking sun and moon!
(Honestly, I have a feeling Luna may have been replaced or investigating something important during her absence in the invasion.) Spending time on the throne making her arrogant doesn’t seem like a reason. She must have had to deal with the constant worry her hive is always starving, that nymphs soon to be born will have to be raised starving as well not to mention her own hunger. The power which she has easily outclasses a drone. Chrysalis probably needed to eat at the very least twice the amount normal changelings do. We have seen at first that she is willing to perform infiltration herself for big operations.
Sorry for going on kinda a rant, but this has been a kind of issue that’s never resolved in the show. Also the fact that supposedly Thorax the only nice changeling to be born. There must have been another changeling in history to have defied a Queen. There’s that one the artifact belonging to a changeling, she looked like an non-transformed changeling and had a powerful enough artifact to be involved in an effort to banish all magic from Equestria. (How Tirek even knew how to banish that much magic, about the artifacts, and that alchemic type circle used in the scheme is still a mystery)
Will we ever find out what Yoshi Darklord did to have even the kindest soul be slightly annoyed?
0 likesAlso, can you do a video about each of their families?
0 likesImagine they made a season 10 out of nowhere showing the next six thrive and the main six rule . Oh and some shippers dreams might come true like , Pinky and Cheese , Spike and Rarity , flutter shy and discord and finally get rainbow and twilight a stallion . It's my dream
0 likesI think if she change then she would be perfect for princess.
0 likesWhen will you do tirek and cozy glow next
1 likeI hope Chrysalis will reform
0 likesto bad we can't see this happen unless they decide to revive the series
0 likesI really don't think it's possible to reform Chrysalis, maybe cozy when she's older and Tirek by getting his dad but Chrysalis is just way to evil.
0 likesyes chrysails she have to change bad to good and help out everyone.
1 likeI bet she would be very very very very very pretty because each princesses look pretty but she’s a queen
1 likeI think Chrysalis doesn't want to reform because she thinks friendship makes you weak. Her hive didn't just loss their way, to her, they also lost their strength, and she's right about both points...not only do they not know what to do with themselves now, they are also consequently weak.
0 likesYou got one part of her motive right, but you left out the other, which was *strength*.
As for reforming her...even the one guy (forgot his name) saying yeah they're lost without you, wont make her see that friendship is a good idea...to convince her that friendship doesn't weaken you, she has to see how it strengthens you...her hive is the best way for her to see it, but without them trying to be ponies...
Think about what made the Changelings fierce, add that to the equation. I'm afraid that it comes down to her thinking friendship makes you weak, because it's not something that you're suppose to fear...where as with Changelings, that's a force which you are suppose to fear...Chrysalis may know this...if so, she cannot be reformed.
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0 likesI actual think that chrysalis is right something wrong with the speed and aggressiveness of the change in the changelings some dark magic was going on there.
0 likesThe better question is.... where is Cosmos? She made Discord shit his pants in the comic, maybe next movie? She is by far more powerful then even full power Tirek or Grogar so yeah...
0 likesYou should really make an animation of the villains becoming good ( maybe have a family with each other cozy glow the adopted )
0 likesEdit: pls like for sawtooth to see or anything else
I hope she gets reformed
0 likesThe former Changling queen could see the light
0 likesI fully agree with you that Chrysalis' issue with Friendship is due to a major psychological hand up. Though I disagree about friendship not being the issue. Friendship genuinely IS the problem. Chrysalis had her entire Hive - her children taken from her by The Magic of Friendship. That is a major stumbling block to work through.
0 likesAnd I agree that a Reformed Changeling might be the Key. Though I'm not sure anyone from the Hive would be able to pull it off. Pharynx is fierce true, but until recently, the only authority any of the Hive knew was Chrysalis. That's going to play merry havoc with dynamics.
If one were to suppose that there USED to be other hives, and that they are all but extinct, a still surviving Changeling, one who remembers days when the Reformed state was a normal part of growing up, that could be a good person to help her.
They took after ponies so much because they only thing they did before transforming was defending the hive and starving looking for food. They most likely took after ponies because they were the only other species that showed kindness and friendship. I doubt that the changings even have any traditions
0 likesI gotta say where did that form of chrysalis come from
0 likesOnly problem is that the only media left is pony life and I highly doubt the villains will return in that.
0 likesQueen chrysalis is my favorite villan
0 likeswhy did cozy betray the ponies? she is one of then after all
0 likesplease do video about cozy glow, we have lots of question about her.
:)
Hold on, can we talk about how nice the reformed chrysalis is?
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Yes we could
0 likesI luv it♡♡♡
0 likes:D
0 likesThe only dislikes are from Brony Haters, Cozy Glow, and Tirec
0 likesBecause no one eles could dislike such an amazing idea
Really great theory!
P.S. I think a theory on how starlight looks like flurry heart could be cool, my theory is that they are related, we never meet Starlight's mother after all, what if it was Cadence!?
(Sorry for bad english) I thing that if Chrysalis was relesed, she would try to hurt thorax or even Twilight. So to reform Chrysalis we need new friend or friend who had similar problem. Becouse all the reformed villians have friends like these... It would just be cool if Chrysalis acepted friendship of Starlight after some problem in changeling kingdom... Some examples of friends of villians...
0 likesDiscord- Fluttershy
Starlight, Sunset- Trixie
(Luna- Celestia)
Now i want that to happen
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0 likesOkay how would you and twilight not get along seriously you two are two peas and a pod
0 likesIf I was one then I would pretend to be good, but then secretly be evil.
0 likesI like how u said changlings to weaklings 😂😂😂😂
0 likesI whole heartedly agree with you this is what God would rather have than judgement
0 likesI thought my little pony episodes were over I thought the show was over !
0 likesI wNt this to really be it and im sad the series is over
0 likesYou're assuming of course Chrysalis is an actually a changeling.
0 likesWait a minute changelings have horns,wings, and tie to the ground that sounds familiar.....
0 likesYoshi Darklord must feel VERY special...
0 likesbut what about a king that was fogotten... the king of the hippogriffs
1 likeShe became pretty
0 likesI would have loved it
0 likesI think that discord could erase all of their memories and take them back to the kingdoms they came from and tell the residents there to be inclusive to the villains and not be scared of them
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Discord could. But he wouldn't do that. He could take the memories from the princesses themselves if he wanted to. But to do so would be to take away the identity from the creature against its will. This is what Twilight wanted to do with Discord. But Discord won't do that
0 likesI feel like your missing the point
0 likes@Bottlenose Cactus Me?
0 likesI have a better theory on Pinkie Pie my theory is that before discord was turned into stone his plan was to send out Orbis of his magic to pony's so if something went wrong someone else could take his place but at the very moment before 🌕and 🌑 turned him to stone he was able to send one of his Orbis then after almost 1000 years later Pinkie Pie is born from that moment the Orbis land on her nose and she now has a piece of discords now you might have a lot of questions but let me finish my theory on the day of the rainboom not only does she get her cutey mark but the Orbis inside her start to go into action when she is happy discords magic goes into action when she is sad she goes back to normal and that basically explains everything and that's my theory it's the best theory I got for Pinkie Pie
0 likesWhen cozy glow attacks cantorlot the sisters try to do something but cozy takes there magic in season 3 the crystal empire part 1 celestia and Luna banish him. Look how they banished him there magic combined and that's what they did in season 9. Where celestia and Luna trying to banish her? And that's my theory.
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Look how they banished Sombra
1 likeI think it can be done, but chrysalis is very stubborn and her dislike to what changelings have become is not the only thing that she opposes so if she is forced into it, I think she most likely will go insane or get turned back to stone or something of the sort.
0 likes1:08 this is far from clear, you can see discord's magic blowing away the cupcake too, it's very possible that discord's magic aura fade's away differently than ponies. In my opinion the sisters and discord can't do that by themselves(turn powerful beings(minus cozy) to stone for eternity without the elements) and they managed to do it only because they used the spell(or spells) at the same time together.
Whatever happened after the show is up to anyone's interpretation, I prefer to believe they stayed in stone for a very long while, maybe even forever, it's a harsh punishment but it feels right to me. Some beings are irredeemable, like these 3(I would say especially chrysalis, even after she was defeated for the last time she just stayed mad while the other 2 cowered), sombra and the storm king(I would have included nightmare moon too but we simply know to little about her, and she probably does not exist anymore).
yes chrysails she have to change bad to good and help out everyone.
0 likesMange chrysalis doesn't want to be reformed because she's scared if she might she might make friends and they might use her and just be awful friends to her so in my guess she's holding back on it bc she doesn't want to feel used and alone (and maybe that's what turned cozy bad and her maybe) but that's just my guess
1 likeI think the way to reform tirek is using pinkie to force him to be nice because she is annoying to him😂🙂
0 likesyour videos are top brony quality
0 likesCozys cutie mark is a chess ruck , which is overpowered just like her
0 likesHi love your videos
0 likesThere was a whole fanfic about reforming the three
0 likesIll tackle chrysalis today
1 likeLiterally tackles her
I’ll tackle rosy and Tereck another day
Tackles Both is them
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Sawtooth, use Tackle!
0 likesNO BAD CRYSTALES
0 likesTheir working together but in a evil way
0 likesWhy did mlp have to end 😭😭😭 at least my friends don’t make fun of me since I’m a guy and I’m 15 and I watch the show
0 likesNo never reform chrysalis if it removes the Swiss legs
0 likesIRL to bad gen4 MLP ended, otherwise this Idea could have possibly become canon
0 likesBut what about the other's? Maybe you should Explore that topic
1 likeI do agree with you but you really think she would look like that. She would probably look a little darker like pharix.
0 likesI LIKED THE BRONY NOTION BETTER!
1 likeDo a video on why Cozy Glow has no Parents
0 likesWhy is there so many mlp experts :')
0 likesi like the idea sawtooth
0 likesAlso they should scrap the skittle-bug design
0 likesSawtooth, what do you think about pony life???
0 likesBut it is the end of Magic of freindship that Will never happen
0 likesYay I'm lucky I saw ur new videos in time!!!!!
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And please make a video about reforming cozy glow
0 likesDude I just got you one thing if you want to dig in. Okay so in the human word there are 6 “elements” but in phoney world there is 5 how? And how is the six?
0 likesOpp- lets reform dem! :/
1 likeno, this is not real, NO WAY SAWTOOTH POSTED 1 HOUR AFTER I WOKE UP
0 likesHow about King Sombra
0 likesI'M YOUR BIGGEST FAN!I WACH ALL YOUR VIDEOS
0 likesI think :
0 likes1. The theory is awesome ! I can totally see Chrysalis accepting the magic of friendship after seeing Pharynx !
2. I still wish this theory never come true ( or at least for Tirek / Cozy Glow ) Because I find it's a good lesson that "not everyone can be reform and they are evil not because of particular reasons"
All that is said from 2:30 to 2:39
0 likesMe:why is this so familiar... CORONA
Wait this video was posted just 2 hours ago dude that's crazy. I saw the other video I just wanted to say that it's this crazy that this video was posted 2 hours ago and I'm seeing it right now on the same day that it was posted
1 likeQueen c h r i s u s is a hot acorn and i troller epic
0 likesYay you did another vid
0 likesChrysalis first huh? Ok (coughs) Says the Changeling (cough) lol
0 likesWhy go to school if I can watch this
0 likesIm trying not to watch it Vida until season 9 comes out on netflix....
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I watched netfilx but there is no Season 9😔😔😔
0 likesSAD LIFE~
What's the opening song
0 likesI could not blame you.
0 likesMLP: Brainwashing is Magic
0 likesWhere are cozyglows parents?
0 likesDo you have any plans for non-brony vids?
0 likesHe right it right away
0 likesI don't see this happening to me I think their defeat is saying you can't befriend everyone people will sooooooooooooo
0 likesI haven't watched map for so long :') I'm 9 now
0 likesI wish that'd Happen
0 likesWhat is chrysalis cutie mark
0 likesNice video sorry I was sorta late :\
0 likesUwU
2 likesBut still, what about twilight, i mean what about her, does she have a twin what about twivine sparkle. Plsss make a vid about it plssssssss.
1 likeYayy!!
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0 likesMY LITTLE IS ENING HOW ARE WE SOPSED TO NO
0 likessmh smh, imagine reforming
0 likesWhaa, nightmares D:
0 likesPlz no Dx
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0 likesHello imma big fan
0 likesits torak
0 likesThe changelings didn't really have a culture before. As Thorax put it, all they did was hunt and patrol.
0 likesOh come on in always asleep :c
0 likesThis is the earliest I've ever been
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Aww today is my dad’s bday. Lol
0 likesWill mlp continu
0 likesCan you just stop talking about your old ruler
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0 likesBesides who is there mother and can lay eggs 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
0 likesI don't like cozy glow
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0 likesI already.
0 likesor you could leave them alone and not mess with our ships
0 likesMake a video pLzzzz
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