This make me think of Sailor moon and the evil sister. Being that they where turned good one by one but the key thing being that once the first evil sister turned good she helped her other sister be good as well and then finally the two good sister turned there remaining sister to there side. So if these three where ever free I would agree that they would be turned one at a time, but once they had they would help the other two see friendship as well. My only wonder would be the order...I think that Chrysalis would personally be lasted to change due to the transformation and how pretty should could possibly look.


I'm honestly impressed you still make content even after a year of MLP's end. The content is real cool too so those are more points for us :)


Damn this was good. Using Pharynx as a bridge is brilliant.


Great video, but in my opinion the images of a 'reformed' chrysalis look too much like Celestia. Chrysalis would most likely look more like Pharnyx, a bit darker.


I have no doubt that if Chrysalis did reform and turned into a reformed changeling, she'd look beautiful, just like the image in the video thumbnail, that's one of the reasons why i for one would've liked to see Chrysalis reformed just to know what she'd look like, but as many say it's kinda good she didn't.


They should make a new season even if it ended 😭


In Reformation, Chrysalis would become the Spymaster of a Pan-Equestrian Alliance. Just from her debut she proved to be up there with the Culper Ring.


Though this does highlight why I don't like what happened to the changelings. They looked really cool in their creepy yet cute design and them being hideous creatures who feed on positive emotions made them very interesting.<br>I would have preferred if the ponies and changelings reached some kind of compromise. That the changelings can never create their own love and need to feed off of ponies. Maybe they create a set of laws to regulate that.

Though this does highlight why I don't like what happened to the changelings. They looked really cool in their creepy yet cute design and them being hideous creatures who feed on positive emotions made them very interesting.
I would have preferred if the ponies and changelings reached some kind of compromise. That the changelings can never create their own love and need to feed off of ponies. Maybe they create a set of laws to regulate that.


What about king sombra I would love to see him reformed

@IceFlower413 // BUGFlower413 Not really all you would have to do is make a circle and a m on it and BOOM he would return but there must be a key to reform him

The problem with that is King Sombra is dead

@Bloody Dragon The comics I say lean more towards semi-canon. Take Fiendship is Magic for instance. Both the show the comic show different origin stories as to how the Sirens got banished into the world of Equestria Girls. In the comic, King Sombra reformed. But in the show, he got destroyed a second time. In the comic, Sunset’s origin story included a different version of Moondancer. Meaning that the comic storyline isn’t at all connected to the show storyline.

Unless you count Season 10.

@Madilynn one the comics are cannon I can name 8 that link on with the show 2 either the people running the show forgot or didn't care cause it was the last season

@Bloody Dragon uh... Season 9 spoilers just in case even tho notifications are bad

In season 9 premiere he came back as a villain?? So unless this took place after he was defeated in season 9 its probably not canon due to the show contradicting it

@Madilynn you tell me what happened between that comic and season nine cause the last time I checked he was reformed also the comics link on to the actual show don't believe me I can name a few that do

@Bloody Dragon I'm pretty sure that isn't canon. That comic from what I've heard (don't quote me on this) takes place before season 9, and an season 9 he's clearly evil

All you’d have to do with him is let Luna handle it

I think we lacked a villain that was a necessary evil in the world.
imagine it, if someone destroys that evil, the whole world is thrown into chaos since without bad...good can't exist.
that would have given the show a gut punch for ages to come, if sombra became evil out of kindness and selflessness, because he knew if the world didn't have a villain then the good of ponies can't exist.

@RayzerSun they flanderised him a little that's true. Maybe his arrogance would've been pulled away after the failure and reborn again by "Grogar" and have a tight leash on him. Otherwise, yeah it makes sense he got vaporised.

@Lady Ren Wasn't he dead before "Grogar"/Discord summon him? o.o

@IceFlower413 // BUGFlower413 hes not dead

I've always bin pissed at wat they did to him in S9. Hes an ancient, evil, Umbra king and they think they can just whoop-dee-doo use <b>necromancy</b> and revive him like nothin' would be fine. Plus his personality was sh*t. He acted like he was Count Dracula and not an ancient warlord

I've always bin pissed at wat they did to him in S9. Hes an ancient, evil, Umbra king and they think they can just whoop-dee-doo use *necromancy* and revive him like nothin' would be fine. Plus his personality was sh*t. He acted like he was Count Dracula and not an ancient warlord

Have you read the comics he is reformed comic is called siege of the crystal empire


Epic Wings Of Fire spoilers/reference ahead

The changelings remind me a lot of the Rainwings because the changelings started out as tough and sorta feared. They can also shapeshift. That reminds me of the old Rainwings because the Rainwings used to be feared, and can change the color of their scales.

I don't know the reason why the Rainwings abandoned their ways, but now Rainwings are these chill dudes who eat fruit which is pretty cool, and changelings are now these chill dudes.

I also see the similarties between these to species (Rainwings and Changelings are from different franchise's though) because they both have bright colors and have like a connection to nature in some way sort of

and yes thats it


You've got some interesting ideas on this topic, Sawtooth. Thanks for sharing this with us! ^_^
Pharynx and Chrysalis do seem like they could get along, though I'm not sure how Pharynx would feel about the former queen trying to drain his brother. I'm surprised that the renegade changelings didn't seek out Chrysalis or vice versa. I guess Chrysalis didn't want to get caught, and the renegades didn't want to go too far from home. Still, it might have made for an interesting story if Chrysalis and Thorax were both trying to sway some renegade changelings to their side and a pre-reform Pharynx chose Thorax after Chrysalis tried to hurt him. Pharynx would agree to return to the hive but refuse to become "reformed", leading to the events of "To Change a Changeling".
I wonder why Chrysalis is the only changeling with hair and a pony-like eye design instead of the neck fins and jewel-like eyes most changelings have. Thorax's eyes stayed mostly the same aside from the coloring when he transformed into a changeling king. Hmm…


I just binge watched these episodes. They are actually really great!!!


The 2 dislikes were from Cozy Glow and Tirek because he chose to reform Chrysalis first😂😂😂

@phat bingus and chrysalis simps and chrysalis gf

Yeah but she is much more pretty that way

And the rest of them was nok reformed changlings

120th reply and I’m dying of laughter xD

120th reply and I’m dying of laughter xD

The 836 are tirek, cozy glow, and the unreformed changelings

The 831 dislikes are from people that did not like the video for some reason

Very very true 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Very very true 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Why reform Chrysalis?<br>Sawtooth is a reformed changeling lol so he wants to reform his queen

Why reform Chrysalis?
Sawtooth is a reformed changeling lol so he wants to reform his queen

How is there now 803 dislikes there is too many dislikes

And the 796 others Are all the villains from season one to 10 and all the movies

Now there are 722

Wow they are still making accounts

<b>the others are all villains not revealed yet.</b>

*the others are all villains not revealed yet.*

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ummm what did that mean i dont understand

ummm what did that mean i dont understand

300 likes ahead

w-wait, n-no, like mine instead!, "loses likes", * N A N I ! *

-300 likes ahead-

w-wait, n-no, like mine instead!, "loses likes", * N A N I ! *

Oh dude you need to play adopt me or watch sanna and moody BIGER BROBLEMS

If that’s not it I’m not sure what it is...

Nxptune.cherry how can some-one hit so far from the joke

Cozy Glow and Tirek are not real they are fiction character and drawn

Now there is 123 dislikes what kind of haters they have to like

And the others are just cozy and rirek too but they made as many random acc to dislike 😂 their rlly upset ayy

And the 103 dislikes is from the other accs

@Ellen's Toy Room 1. I'm a girl. 2. I have no idea what that means.

And all the other dislikes goes to their alts

@Nxptune.cherry way to ruin all the fun... TmT

Sthawtooth waves one can I work along side u an to...its a miracle that crisleise has a chance to reform one day thank God an haliloya baby

The charicters arr animaited so they cant look at yt -_-

The other dislikes were from all the villains

@R true and discord cos hes not "reformed reformed"

Uhhh they probably put a like on it because of that

Plus film and flam, the washout’s, that one character that was controlling Rara, Svengallop, that one character that was facing off with rarity in a faction show where she lost by hotel materials, that dragon who tryed to be spike’s parent (Sludge i think?). Wind Rider and a few others that may or may not watch this video and give a dislike.

@s t u p i d ! they can be from Tirek, Cozy Glow, Sombra, Chrysalis herself, and Grogar

Also those 1,000 likes are from 3 year olds

OMG I GOT 5 PERCENT BATTERY WHEN I SAW THAT

And the other one is that one unreformed changling lol 😂


As far as I see Chrisalis takes love and Cadence spreads love 💗


I'd say the villains would pull a Discord, and grow especially attached to someone, leading them to reformed


If that's official art of reformed Chrysalis, I love it! It's so pretty.


Cant discord just use his magic to cast a protection spell on them which prevents them from doing anything evil and then release them so they could find out how beneficial friendship is on their own?


Honestly I hope when chrysalis gets reformed she looks the same from when she is evil  for um reasons!


Well if I had any doubt that my love for this series had ebbed or dissipated whatsoever me getting emotional over the telling of Chrysalis meeting and fighting Phalanx only to see the truth, have her eyes open, and willingly reform put that to rest. I'm still a brony, through and through, and I can still get emotional over pastel colored horses, god I'd kill to have this exact plot be a fic I could read on FiMfiction.


This was amazing. I wish that she was reformed before the show ended. °^°


Can you please do a video about Cozy Glow’s parents.<br>She is a fillie after all.

Can you please do a video about Cozy Glow’s parents.
She is a fillie after all.

Here's Cozy Glow's backstory. <b>WARNING:</b> Hits hard in the feels. Cozy Glow had parents that were abusive, both physically and verbally. She endured constant mistreatment. She was never appreciated. She never felt loved. One day, her parents were diagnosed with cancer. It was incurable, even with magic. They died and never told her the words every child longs to hear- "I love you." But rather "You don't deserve friendship." Having taken their cruel words, Cozy Glow believed she wasn't worthy of having friends. She never knew kindness. She only felt abuse. It came to the point she contemplated ending her life.😿Prepare for anime tears and full ugly crying.

Here's Cozy Glow's backstory. *WARNING:* Hits hard in the feels. Cozy Glow had parents that were abusive, both physically and verbally. She endured constant mistreatment. She was never appreciated. She never felt loved. One day, her parents were diagnosed with cancer. It was incurable, even with magic. They died and never told her the words every child longs to hear- "I love you." But rather "You don't deserve friendship." Having taken their cruel words, Cozy Glow believed she wasn't worthy of having friends. She never knew kindness. She only felt abuse. It came to the point she contemplated ending her life.😿Prepare for anime tears and full ugly crying.

@Miniş Dünyası children can be evil you know?

@Miniş Dünyası children can be evil you know?

Good idea 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👌🏽

Good idea 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👌🏽

@Miniş Dünyası <br>It's not a quote, abuse is something I've went through and deal with still at times of my life. I'm not "cold", I'm a quite caring person but I know how to disconnect from my emotions and the world, that's why I put "cold" in quotations

@Miniş Dünyası
It's not a quote, abuse is something I've went through and deal with still at times of my life. I'm not "cold", I'm a quite caring person but I know how to disconnect from my emotions and the world, that's why I put "cold" in quotations

@Jay Did you make this quote up? Where’s this quote from? It’s a really good quote

@Jay Did you make this quote up? Where’s this quote from? It’s a really good quote

Neglect and abuse is a huge possibility, people who suffer through it sometimes will become "cold"

Neglect and abuse is a huge possibility, people who suffer through it sometimes will become "cold"

@Saki Anandani clever as she may have been, she still got stoned and lost it all.

@Saki Anandani clever as she may have been, she still got stoned and lost it all.

@Miniş Dünyası I think it’s for manipulation, you manipulate chess pieces, right? And Cozy was able to manipulate a whole school as a FILLY.

I was thinking about this the other night, and kind of came up with the thought that Cozy Glow’s parents are neglectful of her, to the point that she decided to do something drastic to prove herself worthy of her parents love

@Miniş Dünyası Maybe they died or put her in an orphanage because they couldn't look after her or they just abandoned her???

@Miniş Dünyası it’s a chess piece so people have thought that it means manipulation or something, which makes the most sense to me. :)

Absolutely!!! That would be a great video!

Absolutely!!! That would be a great video!

@Keylime python good idea also lol your profile picture

@Keylime python good idea also lol your profile picture

@Sheena Ford it doens't matter after all somethimes mlp have some dark  moments

@Sheena Ford it doens't matter after all somethimes mlp have some dark  moments

Miniş Dünyası her Mark is a chess piece maybe she’s being used as a pawn like in chess or she sees other people as her pawns

I wonder if her parents are dead, or they don't care about her. Maybe that's what drove her mad?

I wonder if her parents are dead, or they don't care about her. Maybe that's what drove her mad?

@Miniş Dünyası Its a chess piece which means she's good at calculating problems, predictions, and manipulating. She is good at controlling people. She is the player and everyone else is her pawn.

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I think trixie or starlight is the mum of her or an orphan but I do want a video about her and her parents

I think trixie or starlight is the mum of her or an orphan but I do want a video about her and her parents

@Miniş Dünyası It's a chess piece. She's a manipulator. It's about how she is constantly strategizing and moving pieces around on her board. Everything she does is a means to an end. That child is definitely some Antisocial Personality Disorder mess.

No. Stop excusing her because she’s a child

No. Stop excusing her because she’s a child

@Amber Slahlize Make me think of someone who also want power "Virgil" with his inferiority complex.

@Amber Slahlize Make me think of someone who also want power "Virgil" with his inferiority complex.

@Miniş Dünyası It's a chess piece, I <i>think</i> a rook, which is one of the most powerful in the game of chess, a mind game.

@Miniş Dünyası It's a chess piece, I _think_ a rook, which is one of the most powerful in the game of chess, a mind game.

@Miniş Dünyası its of a rook piece from chess. Not as low as a pawn, however not as important as a queen. She has always been sort of the "sidekick" and barely seen as an equal in the eyes of the other villains. From what I've seen, she is simultaneously really good at raising up her "friends" but also craves power.

I actually had a GREAT theory about that I sent to sawtooth. I hope he reads it :3

I actually had a GREAT theory about that I sent to sawtooth. I hope he reads it :3

Hasbro should a least tell us about her past of that she has parents and why is she evil in the first place.

I thought they were clear that she came from some parallel universe where there was no magic. We don't know if she's even a pony where she's from. Since the multiverse was part of the original series plans and seems to be working into G4.5, I suspect she's an underdeveloped bridge to that.

I had a dream about cozy clow being hypnost to be bad but i don't remeber who did it....

I had a dream about cozy clow being hypnost to be bad but i don't remeber who did it....

I always think off that! Like how in eQeStRia did the show not at least have like one line about Cozy clow's mom or dad! (Also she is my favoritt vilan)

@R that's might be why she's evil because she's sad that her parents abandon her

@R that's might be why she's evil because she's sad that her parents abandon her

Exactly I'm like what in the world is up with this baby 😂

Exactly I'm like what in the world is up with this baby 😂

Caleb Lardizabal Maybe it’s because of a result of her cutie mark. We’ll never know.

Caleb Lardizabal Maybe it’s because of a result of her cutie mark. We’ll never know.

GalaxyGamer 101 Says who? Jail isn’t good enough for her.

GalaxyGamer 101 Says who? Jail isn’t good enough for her.

Definitely one of the shows biggest remaining question marks...

Definitely one of the shows biggest remaining question marks...

Miniş Dünyası Yeah. What’s the deal with her? I bet she was an orphan.

Miniş Dünyası Yeah. What’s the deal with her? I bet she was an orphan.

@Saki Anandani i really like this theory cuz u know she is very good at manipulating other ponys with her "cuteness"

Poor Baby. She doesnt know right from wrong yet and is power hungry. They can knock it out of her.

Poor Baby. She doesnt know right from wrong yet and is power hungry. They can knock it out of her.

Yeah ask lauren faust whose cozy glows parents

Yeah ask lauren faust whose cozy glows parents

Awesome Geek I thought they had a good grasp on parents but then they made that episode with Scootaloos parents who are a few of the worst parents I’ve seen in a kids show painted to be good

I like to imagine that she is actualy a grown up mare trapped in a filly's body.

You know

Like that insane serial killer that looked like a child.
You know.
From that weird horror/thriller movie...

I mean.

It's a real illness.
It would be...
Effed up...

But you know...

The whole situation with her is ALREADY effed up

She's bullied by mean unicorns saying that she dont have magic because she dosent have a horn. So she got really mad and sad and became evil Idk.

Miniş Dünyası I think it’s the queen or rook in chess, meaning that she plays everyone to doing her bidding. Everyone is her pawn to be sacrificed so she can win.

And one about Kind Vlorak/Tirek’s father unless he already has

And one about Kind Vlorak/Tirek’s father unless he already has

@strxwberri_cookii that's way to dark for a kids show. I bet they're adventurers like Scootaloos parents

@strxwberri_cookii that's way to dark for a kids show. I bet they're adventurers like Scootaloos parents

For some reason, I feel like her parents died in an unfortunate and suspicious house fire...

For some reason, I feel like her parents died in an unfortunate and suspicious house fire...

What if her parents died not just her parents her whole family

What if her parents died not just her parents her whole family

@Miniş Dünyası I  think it's a reference to the tower arcana

@Miniş Dünyası I  think it's a reference to the tower arcana

Fatd0gg0 she said
“You might be the Princess of Friendship, but as headmare of this school, I can collect even more friends than you!”
She seems to think of friends as collectibles

Miniş Dünyası Chessmaster. She’s a chess piece, the rook is a chess piece that’s practically useless in the beginning of chess and just “under the radar”. Only when the board gets emptier the rook begins to matter more as it’s able to move vertically and horizontally, can go from one extreme of the board to another—it’s very used in endgames for Checkmates.

<b>makes a video talking about how Cozy Glow is not a fillie</b>

*makes a video talking about how Cozy Glow is not a fillie*

Appledash Ismyfaveship That could be the case

Appledash Ismyfaveship That could be the case

Maybe her parents sent her to the school of friendship because they knew that she could live there and forgot about or she was sent to the school of friendship because she was lonely and sad. Because her parents died before she went there and she believes that you need the power to be happy because no one was there for her so yea that's all I got

@Saki Anandani
<br>something I realized that in season 17 episode 17 she was playing chess, maybe her cutie mark has nothing to do with her evil

@Saki Anandani
something I realized that in season 17 episode 17 she was playing chess, maybe her cutie mark has nothing to do with her evil

Galaxy gamer the rulers of euqusrtria turned her to stone (twylyght hadnt been crowned yet) so it was legal

I think the one thing Cozy glow needs was friends but maybe something happened when she took it the wrong way of it begin power. One quote she said is.. (Correct me if im wrong) "Then I'll have more friends than you!" Then after begin imprisoned in Tartus. She even still tried making friends with Tirek.

@• Evil Slime 😈 Frog  • Posing as something doesn't change the motive.

@• Evil Slime 😈 Frog  • Posing as something doesn't change the motive.

Well she went to school of friendship And then tea,ed up with tirek and chrysalis

Well she went to school of friendship And then tea,ed up with tirek and chrysalis

@Princess Flutterheart Her motive is pretty lackluster...she just wants power.

@Princess Flutterheart Her motive is pretty lackluster...she just wants power.

Idk why shes bad seed get it cos she was nice then bad

Idk why shes bad seed get it cos she was nice then bad

It is not legal to turn A FILLY into stone

It is not legal to turn A FILLY into stone

Shes a queen bee or queen aunt. Young queens either leav3 wyth a small starter hyve or are kylled. Synce she obvi wasnt kylled, that means there are other changling hyves out there... Und changling hyves out there... Just waiting 2 stryke all the new civalizations full of love.. even some gryffins r freinds, gabby and rainbows freind whos name i forgot but ill remeber soon.

Synce when does she have a cutie mark? None of the changelings do

Synce when does she have a cutie mark? None of the changelings do

@Miniş Dünyası
<br>after all a real home would dominate a territory or something like that, so there would still be some dominance

@Miniş Dünyası
after all a real home would dominate a territory or something like that, so there would still be some dominance

@R Actually, her cutie mark is a piece from the game Chess. This probably means the she is very smart and plays her moves very stragically, without anyone even noticing what's happening. Her cutie mark proves that she has a clever mind and knows what to do and when to do it.

@Miniş Dünyası
<br>when in the first episode of season 9 cozy glow made a statuette of her friendship with tirek, but from the representation of their friendship it seemed to me that she saw him more as a father than as a friend

@Miniş Dünyası
when in the first episode of season 9 cozy glow made a statuette of her friendship with tirek, but from the representation of their friendship it seemed to me that she saw him more as a father than as a friend

Or maybe she escaped from her real home either her parents were awful to her or too nice

Or maybe she escaped from her real home either her parents were awful to her or too nice

I honestly think that Chrysalis or Tirek could be better parents for Cozy Glow. I mean her family was never ever there for her.

@Miniş Dünyası
<br>It can mean something of dominance, as it is a tower

@Miniş Dünyası
It can mean something of dominance, as it is a tower

Or what does her cutie mark mean?<br>It doesn’t look or mean Evil to me

Or what does her cutie mark mean?
It doesn’t look or mean Evil to me

Maybe she has some kind of growth disease

Maybe she has some kind of growth disease

Or a theory about her backstory....like why is she....she so evil? What is her motivation?

Or a theory about her backstory....like why is she....she so evil? What is her motivation?

Hmm... that makes since... wow. I mean mlp already had a pretty good grasp on lessons about parents or lack of ((haha scootalo until she got her parents tempted bacc)) but this would be really interesting...

I think she is an orphan, and that is why I send letters to tirek for lack of any adult pony to watch over her

How.... have I never thought of that before now??

How.... have I never thought of that before now??


Wow Chrysalis looks so beautiful reformed


im so mad about the treatment of changelings in mlp.<br>first they were stripped of all their interesting traits (two-pitched voices,  and especially their hive biology – thorax and pharynx are called brothers even though all of the hive should be siblings, and generally the whole hive gimmick gets abandoned pretty quick and just serves to mean 'changeling country), then chrysalis was denied chance at redemption even though realistically she was the most likely villain to be redeemed, being driven by entirely unselfish motivations; and THEN once the remaining changelings got reformed they got prettyfied because god forbid something benign look scary on the surface 🙄🙄 i love mlp but ill always be mad about the changeling thing.

im so mad about the treatment of changelings in mlp.
first they were stripped of all their interesting traits (two-pitched voices,  and especially their hive biology – thorax and pharynx are called brothers even though all of the hive should be siblings, and generally the whole hive gimmick gets abandoned pretty quick and just serves to mean 'changeling country), then chrysalis was denied chance at redemption even though realistically she was the most likely villain to be redeemed, being driven by entirely unselfish motivations; and THEN once the remaining changelings got reformed they got prettyfied because god forbid something benign look scary on the surface 🙄🙄 i love mlp but ill always be mad about the changeling thing.


Love the reformed Chrysallis screenshot design


I love how you pictured Chrysails. So beautiful🌈👌😃


honestly, you should totally do a reform vid about Sombra, sure he died but it's been shown that he can come back even easier than the three, it would be nice to see how you would work your King Cobalt headcanon into his reformation.


Before today I never realized how fascinating the original changeling culture were!! They cared for others in the hive and obeyed completely to the queen and relentlessly devour everything else…😍😍sounds evil but at the same time so attractive!!


I like the idea of reforming Chrysalis! I honestly think Chrysalis’s reformed form and original form will be combined so that way Chrysalis can learn the new ways rom Thorax!

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As I commented in one of Silverquill's videos about villains, I feel like there's a possible return of not only Chysalis, but Cozy Glow and Tirek in G5. After all, prisoners in statues don't exactly age while in their encased state, so perhaps the new mane 5 , or possibly a rouge pony (or creature), will one day find the lost statue of the old villain and somehow manage to revive them. After all, this wouldn't be the first time a villain would be awoken from their petrified slumber, so it wouldn't be out of the question. I feel like if anyone can be able to at least try to convince the old villains to reform and start anew, it could be Sunny or perhaps even Izzy.


That would be awesome to see chrysalis, lord tirek, cozy glow, and king sombra reformed


Yeah, of the 3, she does have some part of her physic that one could delve into in order to help her stop being straight out evil.  maybe without the hunger she'd become a more benevolent leader, if not stern in her leadership.

Cozy I think though would be the easiest to handle since she literally has no magic beyond flight.  One could take her and have in depth physiological study on her and then be able to teach her where she completely failed on friendship.  That's her biggest problem is despite going to that school and excelling (if wasn't all cheated), she truely did not understand anything that was taught.
The last guy is bit more difficult... Means he consumes magic and gets stronger, they'd need Discord for sure to watch over.  T-reck also doesn't seem to even have a soft side, let alone care for anyone in their world.  He's fully self consumed and isn't scared to utterly destroy everything for sake of himself becoming all powerful.  If anyone was to be left stone, it's him.  Maybe even just go safe side and crush into dust :P


If anyone can reform these three it's definitely Saw tooth, but just be careful when doing it, and probably keep a good distance from tirek since he might try to drain your magic if your too close to him so probably best to try and get to him last once you've reformed the other two first, Love the videos and hope you keep making them

@Some Guy that uses the internet Stick the horn where the sun don't shine.

@Krissy_ ᖴᗩᑎᗪOᗰ_GIᖇᒪ yeah that could work but they might argue or mess up his office so probably best to put magic proof artifacts to prevent those two from using magic just to be on the safe side

Can’t you just bring them to Doctor Wolf’s therapy sessions?? Because nobody can steal his magic since he was gifted it.

I actually think it would be beneficial to do cozy last- as long as she thinks she still has support in being evil she will keep at it, even at the start she was in contact with tirek- if tirek reforms she might just reform with him.

plot twist they turn him into a villian and he spends 2 seasons worth of time unreforming villians.

You are actually right so if i were you stay away from tirek because i don't  want to say this but he could actually  trick you and why didn't  you  tackle cozy glow you know  first she is weaker than them

@Mathew Watson It may take some time to do the reformation for Tirek though, he may still be spiteful towards Scorpan, and it may take a lot of counselling to finally get him to reform, but it still is possible, we just have to put in more effort. Cozy, I have no idea how. We weren't given much information about her, her past is really vague. The only thing that was taken into account was that she believes friendship isn't important. Maybe she made friends before but was backstabbed by them which led her to despising friendship?

@The Magnificent Dummy you may have a point

Maybe have Discord remove Tirek's power source: his horns, same with chrysalis' horns and for cozy... keep her guarded by the cmc and remove her wings (cozy would not age due to being stone and the cmc are adults assuming this takes place after the time skip of the last episode of G4)

Your going to have to use some spell that prevents him from draining magic and getting back to his villainous ways. Then we can begin the process of reforming him. As we saw in the second to last episode, Tirek just wanted to please his father. If we can convince him that pleasing his father wasn't his goal or maybe something like that, then maybe it'll be enough to reform him. The motivation behind his actions is getting praise from his father, if we can give him a feeling that he doesn't need to make his dad proud of him and that he can still be appreciated by others, then he'll no longer have to look to the dark side.

What do you think?


All Chrysalis needs is a pink puffy pony that likes tacos


Love this idea it should sooo be an episode because I would watch it in a heart beat


We should be all friends so every single Pony won't be a villain anymore


I agree w/ u chrysalis has a bright future ahead i can see it lets just hope the new generation of ponys can reason w/ her


My question is how Chrysalis and Tirek could have been reformed prior to the final 3 episodes of season 9 (the "if" I already know).


what I would love to see is anyone of them (changelings culture could be extremly intersting) reforming but without any visual aspects to it. They would still have the same old appearance but without all the violence in their behaviour.   Maybe they could even try living along the ponies.


I always wanted to see Chrysalis reformed. Now I take it as my personal headcannon. And NOT because I see Chrysalis hot af. Nope. Not at all. NOT AT ALL!! That's the official version, and I'll stick to it.


I have a theory about the flowing mane

Whenever a princess is in her element she gets her flowing mane. For, example at cadence’s wedding when her and shining armor made the heart her hair was flowing. In the second part of twilight’s kingdom when twilight takes in the magic of all four alicorns she gets a flowing mane. It’s the same later when she tries to raise the sun. Luna and Celestia’s manes are always flowing because I think if a princess does a final accomplishment her mane stays flowing. I think this happened when Twilight decided to have her friends rule with her. Maybe Celestia’s happened when she learned to raise the sun and Luna when she learned to raise the moon.

My theory is when an alicorn gets to a certain age, their magic reaches its peak. And the energy is so powerful that it makes their own mane flow with the magical energy. I wanted to make a sorta comedic story about this with each princess. Flurry heart will be the hardest.

I guess this can also be linked to unicorns too.

@Mjae Gacha Discord’s Daughter (which I just watched,ironically) is not canon

Sudhir Naik Actually, that is a good idea but...

The true flowing mane is when a pony has lots of magic. Celestia and Luna have a lot of magic and when they gave it to twilight with Cadence, she raised the sun her mane was flowing because she was using a lot of power and had it. I know it went back when she still had it and her mane was still but that’s because she didn’t have her own magic. As for cadence, she and shining armor had the power of love which is almost as much as the magic of friendship and when she used it, her mane flowed just like Twilights. But Cadence’s magic then didn’t flow because Shining armor gave her strength aswell and that’s why when she used it her mane flowed.

But still, good idea! I love the creativity. Honestly, the mane flowing has a lot of reasons so no one is right or wrong.

Then why do Mistmane and King Sombra have flowing manes?

When the sisters lost their magic their mane stopped flowing, but not sparkling. But when Luna became Luna after being night mare moon so long her mane wasn't flowing or sparkling.

But when Luna came back from the moon in season one she didnt have a flowing mane for some reason and that was when she already learnt to raise the moon

𝐅𝐢𝐯𝐞•𝐏𝐨𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫 ⧗

@Mjae Gacha Bride of Discord and Daughter of Discord are fanfictions that were turned into fanmade audio dramas. They're not canon, and have no place in talking about theories about the actual canon.

Yeah, but I hypothesize that chrysalis was a alicorn. Just watch Discords daughter:the movie and you will understand this part: Chrysalis used magic and took out her heart, but now she feeds off of love from ponies. So maybe she was an alicorn, but turned into what she is now? And that is the end of my theries

Yes I know but my theory only involves alicorns not unicorns 🦄

Sudhir Naik but that does not explain why she has flowing mane

I am talking about alicorns mist mane is just a unicorn

Corrupted  but her mane was flowing even before she gave up her beauty

Alexander Narag she gave up her beauty for some one else so that’s why her mane flows

How do you explain Mistmane? She had a flowing mane before. It’s so weird!

So did Cadence accomplish something but then it backfire? Her mane never flowed again unless I'm forgetting the last episode wrong.


I’ve always wondered what chrysalis looked like reformed!


I can understand why Thorax would be seen as a threat to her and the other changelings cultural identity, and the point of the video was about how she could be reformed, however, there is one thing I find interesting about how the changelings have exchanged their culture more easily. Their culture drastically changed because they were becoming a new and they likely didn't care much to keep the old one because of how they starved and suffered in it, so now they probably wanted a new identity to leave behind the old one, and pony culture was the closest and seemingly desirable option. Having guards and an army was one of the things they should have kept in their culture, but have associated it with their hive queen too closely; so what other important or unique parts of the original culture that could have been admired were discarded in their haste for love and change?


Yeah Chrysalis didn’t even accept it when Starlight tried to help her after her hive was destroyed, this is a great and very smart Sawtooth video, he probably had to do a lot of thinking to get these done, and the effort he puts into these videos, wow!


Also I know why chrysalis is like this because she wants love 💕 for her hive but if she is nice 👍 she can get love 💕 for her hive from herself or something and after all she did for them they Abandon her! That’s why she’s so unhappy with it


The whole test thing gives me The Good Place vibes :)


I will admit, when I was a lot younger, the Queen Chrysalis transformation sequence scared the piss out of me. I don't  know why, it may have been the eyes in that scene? It just scared me so much. I can watch it with no problem now, and I won't lie, Chrysalis was an interesting character to me. I even went as far as to own the toy. XD


I like idea you put in here I know that she's going to reform It's a beautiful changeling


Everyone: trying to find a cure for covid, and get 2020 back on track
Sawtooth:

WE MUST REFORM CHRYSALIS

Everyone: trying to find a cure for covid, and get 2020 back on track
Sawtooth:

*WE MUST REFORM CHRYSALIS*


The funniest thing about me watching these videos is that the last time I watched MLP was when I was 4 and remember nothing, and yet here I am, invested in these theories while only partially understanding them.


Honestly, i never knew why people keep making Chrysalis's reformed form blue and green and such. If anything, i would've made her the opposite colors, which is basically just a coral color and a light grey.


Great choice, i would like the queen changeling to be reformed


I just realized something, is it possible that since Twilight saw how diverse Equestria has become, stop the alicorn tradition of being the rulers of Equestria then set up a council to rule over equestria? And is it possible over the years the 3 stoned villains were released just like discord and they were the ones who separated the 3 pony tribes as well as raising tensions between species? It would kind of explain what happened to g5

Edit; Main problem with this theory is that the villains are nowhere to be seen, and I have a theory for that but all of this is speculation; maybe they were defeated by the other species since they also have friendships and can use the power of friendship, and the crystals could be the gift of those species before they defeated the villains to help them defend against the villains and maybe even reunite them, there's also the problem with the magic, if I think of something I will edit this comment again.


"Make them choose between friendship and tyranny"<br>Bruh, Cozy's entire philosophy is that they're the same thing. But like Discord, if she grows to care about somebody else enough to not want to do anything that'll hurt them, there's a chance.

"Make them choose between friendship and tyranny"
Bruh, Cozy's entire philosophy is that they're the same thing. But like Discord, if she grows to care about somebody else enough to not want to do anything that'll hurt them, there's a chance.

@Dark Whispers Stories Cozy Glow's idea of fun would make Jigsaw Killer blush. Even The Punisher would be terrified.

I ship her with pipsqueak, so he'd work!

Yeah. But how do you appeal to Cozy Glow since the same solution will never work

@ShadowWolf 909 discord didnt try to kill them given his Powers he can just think of it and the entire Equestria is Toast all he did was to change their personalities in the oposite of who they wore
Still wrong but nowhere near killing all he ever did as a "villain" was to have a very twisted version of the word "Fun"..
Cozy on the other hand..well her entire plan involved around getting rid of any threat

Te Min I think he was more of someone who’s definition of “fun” was.....really different.

@ShadowWolf 909  Kill? Really? Discord never wanted to kill anyone.

Te Min he tried to kill the mane six. Until Fluttershy convinced him friendship was better

@whudafxupd00d1 No. If he was a villain, he wouldn't give anyone a chance.

By the way that you are talking,it seems like there is not much hope. To get Cozy to see that Friendship and Tyranny aren't actually the same things. That they are in reality different and that she has just gotten them both VERY badly confused with one another somehow.


I think the method of redemption for Chrysalis is right on the money.  Pharynx is the best one to reform Chrysalis


I just need to rewatch this to see more of her in her reformed form


Cozy: Have Diamond Tiara share her personal experience of how manipulating ponies for power didn’t make her happy.

Tirek: Make him sit down with Scorpan. Let Tirek share how he felt from his brother’s betrayal, and let Scorpan share his empathy with ponykind. Maybe tackle Tirek’s dad issues.

This is probably Cozy Glow's backstory. <b>WARNING:</b> Hits hard in the feels. Cozy Glow's parents were abusive, physically and verbally. Then one day they were diagnosed with cancer. It was incurable, even with magic. (I'm not sure if they have magic that cures cancer. Probably not.) They died and never said the words every child longs to hear- "I love you." She took their cruelty to heart. She never felt loved. She never had a true friend. She never knew love. She only knew abuse and hatred. She inflicted that abuse on others. She longed for affection, but all she received was abuse to the point she wanted it to end. She thought about ending her life.😿 Prepare for anime tears and full ugly crying.

This is probably Cozy Glow's backstory. *WARNING:* Hits hard in the feels. Cozy Glow's parents were abusive, physically and verbally. Then one day they were diagnosed with cancer. It was incurable, even with magic. (I'm not sure if they have magic that cures cancer. Probably not.) They died and never said the words every child longs to hear- "I love you." She took their cruelty to heart. She never felt loved. She never had a true friend. She never knew love. She only knew abuse and hatred. She inflicted that abuse on others. She longed for affection, but all she received was abuse to the point she wanted it to end. She thought about ending her life.😿 Prepare for anime tears and full ugly crying.

I can’t believe you got the exact thing that Sawtooth did for reforming Cozy! You are very clever. Wow!

I thought it was flurry heart and cozy glow

@Jackieee sister location reference here

@Alsu Nur ÇAKMAK let’s calm her down with a controlled shock

Diamond Tiara had mother issues, I'm sure she could relate with Tirek.


Is it just me or does sawtooth sound like a good parent 😂❤


I love the design of the reformed Chrysalis. It’s so pretty 🤩


I think it would be nice to see the good in chrysalis as an mlp episode


Whenever I see something like this, especially the transformed Chrysalis from the thumbnail, I can only think of the lines from Scary Movie 3:
Chrysalis (transformed): "Thank you all. Your love has broken the curse and freed my soul. I'll never have to kill again."
Mane Six: "Really?"
Chrysalis (normal): "Nah, I'm just screwing with ya" Commences another Changeling Invasion of Canterlot

Whenever I see something like this, especially the transformed Chrysalis from the thumbnail, I can only think of the lines from Scary Movie 3:
Chrysalis (transformed): "Thank you all. Your love has broken the curse and freed my soul. I'll never have to kill again."
Mane Six: "Really?"
Chrysalis (normal): "Nah, I'm just screwing with ya" *Commences another Changeling Invasion of Canterlot*


thank you. i always thought there was something wrong with the way the changelings are now. i didn't know what it was, but now i see that they, as a newly reformed empire, turned to the cuddliness of pony life, losing all of their fierceness and a lot of their sense of pride in their empire.

Luckily, I think the changelings are getting better about that. At the end of To Change a Changeling, they agree that they've been too soft and ask Pharynx to help them rediscover their tougher side, and I figure that's probably going well.


I love this theory and I wish MLP made a episode with this theory <br>🙃🙃

I love this theory and I wish MLP made a episode with this theory
🙃🙃


Chrysalis is so pretty when she reformed !!


I think chrysalis is the most beautiful of the reformed changelings. She kind of reminds me of like season one princess Celestia


The problem with Chrysalis is she's too power hungry. Starlight tried to convince her she can be a good ruler by embracing love and not taking it from others. But she wants to rule by force, even if it means keeping the hunger the rest of the hive managed to beat. Honestly, she's the kind of villain you can't reform without hurting her. She has to suffer to fully understand why her ambitions and rejection of friendship is wrong. I think if Tirek and Cozy had run off with her magic, leaving her weak and helpless on the mountain until some compassionate pony came to help her, that would have done it.

No, I think to reform Chrysalis she must first lost Cozy and Tirek and she will see that she wanna Friendship more I think


If they were to be reformed, I feel like instead of celestia or twilight taking them out of their stone imprisonment, it would be Princess Flurry Heart, probably in her teens like 15. Since she is rumored to be the princess of light, and naturally being the daughter of cadence, she would have more kindness, trust, and forgiveness then twilight would, especially since all three of the villains have made worse damage then other villains. Twilight most likely would want to keep them in stone forever instead of taking the chance, except for our powerful light hearted alicorn princess of light. Most likely she would take precautions and use a spell to make it so chrysalis and terik cant use their power while she attempts to reform them. I imagine that they would play along, waiting to earn her trust and then backstab her. But perhaps slowly she would get a bond with each of them, like fluttershy and discord had.


I really want to see that but with a different ending. I want to see reformed Chrysalis make herself a NEW hive.
Basically, in bees, if the hive is overpopulated, the queen can fake dying and the bees would chose who would be the next queen. With that, the queen can run away with half of the hive and creat a new colony.

I really want to see Chrysalis making a new hive with changeling that doesn't want to just copy ponies. Making herself legends, stories to make the changelings different from the ponies but in a respectful way, like not saying that ponies destroyed her hive but made her realized that her tyranny had to stop and letting place to new hives, like hers or Thorax's one.


it honestly blows my mind how someone could be THIS smart! these theories....they make so much sense! love your videos btw!!!


Love the reformed Chrysalis art ! Shame that story will remain our fan dreams


You know how Cadence used her horn to make two ponies share love for each other in twilight’s flashback? If Cadence does that to Queen Chrysalis she’s be SHARING LOVE which would cause her to turn colorful and not be hungry. Although this would be a little harsh on her I think It would work out in the end


This would be interesting, although i think these three villans are meant to represent those who have done bad things and wont change, as much as some would want to help them, there are those who you cannot help.
I just find this ironic.
Starlight believed Twilight destroyed all her work since Starlight believed she "built" the perfect community, (which was a chain reaction from her choice in the past). Even though Starlight was dead set on getting her revenge, in the end she realised what she did was wrong. Than there is Chrysalis; In her eyes Starlight destroyed what she had created and also was dead set on revenge just as Starlight was towards Twilight. Even with i guess a hoof out for Chrysalis was to help her, she refused. In s9, even though she could still change, she didn't move from her plan to take out Starlight.


I do wanna see chrysalis change because when starlight talked to her infront of others i saw a quilt in her it was there so i think its still a hope


When she said that quote, she said "I watched it happen to the hive and I don't want it to happen to me." That means she had a strong bond with the hive.And she was sad she lost her family\hive.

@Zidders Roofurry Stop abusing medical terms to insult somebody.

@azamonra More like she thinks its really not good with what happened to her hive(I mean.. they turned into skittle bugs and "Feelings Forums" crap we saw in To Change A Changeling).<br>They need to touch on why is Chrysalis so stubborn to reform. Having her just be stubborn/prideful for the sake of that is just disappointing.  Having her be evil for the sake of being evil is just bland.

@azamonra More like she thinks its really not good with what happened to her hive(I mean.. they turned into skittle bugs and "Feelings Forums" crap we saw in To Change A Changeling).
They need to touch on why is Chrysalis so stubborn to reform. Having her just be stubborn/prideful for the sake of that is just disappointing.  Having her be evil for the sake of being evil is just bland.

Like bees and ants, there’s drone insects that are bred to mate with the Queen in order for her to lay eggs. In bees, the males die after wards so it’s not like there’s a parent dynamic with the new eggs, just to pass on a generation and keep their Hive alive.

If she's the queen of the hive like an ant or bee...
Dose she lay all the changeling eggs?
Do they lay eggs? They are insects after all?

If it's true....

How they get fertilized?

@azamonra at her defense it looked more like ponies conquering her hive more than helping and like a brainwash from Starlight from her point of view =^

She lost her position of power and her servants.  If she really had that strong bond she would have accepted Starlight's offer.  But she wouldn't have been ruler of the hive, she'd be leader.  And to despots that's a big difference.

She's a narcissistic egomaniac and a psychopath.


I have a question, can a regular changling (not just the queen) use magic if they turn into an alicorn? And can they breathe fire as a dragon? What if a changling turns into a baby pony and stays that way for a pong time, would they grow into an adult pony or be an elderly changling??


I'm addicted to villian redemptions so i love this


I honestly wish they would make another season and focus on the villains lol
Edit: ok where did those 1674 likes come from..? Yeah, I'm liking my own comments cause why not-
I never had that many before 🥺thank you

HOnestly that would have been a nice way to finish the series. Or atleast explore why some of them were truly irredeemable. Its not black and white.

What I think is that they should atleast put more happiness in life for them when they are villians
They probably suffered through a lot to become like that
I feel so bad for them

@Lucy Kremer <br>I guess it just shows to go how this show is basically a religion

@Lucy Kremer
I guess it just shows to go how this show is basically a religion

I think they are working on gen 5<br>Mlp friendship is magic is gen 4

I think they are working on gen 5
Mlp friendship is magic is gen 4

Wow, you I st bombed the comment section, lol.

Actually, that's kinda already been done with the Fiendship is Magic comic arc. Now I can see why my friend Alice prefers villains to heroes, King Sombra’s backstory is incredible

And revealing, I thought he was turned evil by the Alicorn Amulet (after building it) for so long

They could of made so many seasons off starswirled and the princesses ... Read the comics!!

Yah yep yap YAAASSS yes no for real they should

They are going the season 10 but it will be only in comics

@Justin U killed me on blob.io im tyt crystal on blob.io 😁

They have haven’t you read the comics girl

Me to cause season 8 let's wack in another villain season 9 lets turn that villain and tow older ones to stone


This question is in my head as I watched this. Could it be possible to reform King Sombra?


finally chrysalis is now  a good changeling  because thats creepy she turns her head  round


I rly hope the creators see this and actully make it happened


Pharynx vs Chrysalis will make one heck of a battle. I still think that Chrysalis might reform because of Pharynx. That’s all I have to say.


Well, we need Hasbro to understand that the 4th generation was the best one and bring it back so they can continue with the storyline and cover topics that they missed


well,we have to make an agreement with queen Chrysalis,as long as she agrees for example “Queen Chrysalis,if you reform then you’re colony is going to be infinitely stronger and you can get the love,especially from king Sombra, but drain from him and not from ponies “!;) :D


I love your idea! I think that chrysalis would be ruling with thorax


Maybe it can work like the "Beauty and the Beast" Transformation of Sombra in "Siege of the Crystal Empire".


I think you can’t learn a lesson without being exposed to the experience. So I think we should do what you said, but also encourage her to attack. Start giving them ideas by talking about reformed changlings and how they are trying to be like ponies, and try to get Chrysalis to attack them. Spy on her, and when she gets free, everything will be ready. They try to convince her friendship isn’t weakness, but if it doesn’t work discord will be waiting around the corner ready to turn her back to stone. Because you can tell chrysalis that changlings are strong, but she won’t believe it without seeing them in action.

@night shroud96 saying discord caused them to become more evil is a massive amounts of headcanon that isn't true. Considering the things they have done on their own for power to dominate and enslave Equestria even before season 9,  considering the bad alternate futures where chrysalis has everyone at war and tirek is destroying everything. Im not saying discord is a saint but he simply didn't think things through and wanted to help his friends. The trio ultimately choose by chrysalis own words that they refuse to change despite knowing how great friendship could be.

@Fresh2000 ZCORD His dumb plan caused them to be worse.  Period.
If he kept his damn claws off of them, they wouldn't go off the deep end further.  Pointing them to a dangerous weapon, essentially threatening them around to make them work together(and them interacting causing their behavior to be influenced to be even worse), essentially encouraging them to be bad like that, his plan caused all of this.  Even if this still their free-will, its Discord who caused them go off further for what his actions had done to them intentionally. Like intending on using them as threats to sic on Twilight to "boost" her confidence.
It doesn't freaking matter if he had good intentions, his plan caused serious issues and its still horrible.
His logic of thinking its ok to use anyone at all as pawns(villains or not) to send to their demises is something pre-reform Discord would do.  Discord needs it hammered into his head that its never ok to use anyone as disposable pawn, PERIOD.
Discord freeing the other heroes is a start, but its not enough to make up for what his plan had done. There's alot of damage in there.

@night shroud96 they ended up worse because of there own actions they were already evil and would have taken over Equestria anyways as they have done it before, also discord showed remorse for his actions and put himself in danger to help save EQ. Your also forgetting his plan came from a good place of trying to help twilight be a good leader he is capable of being good hes just a spirit of chaos but he can learn

@Fresh2000 ZCORD No, keep him the hell away from her.
His dumb plan is what caused her to end up being worse.  And the fact he could have easily find her at any time and help her but instead she was left out there going crazy and instead of giving her help while she was in that broken state, he freaking tried to use her as a disposable pawn.
He will just make things worse or cause some issues.

@night shroud96 discord definitely should be around to turn her to stone if need be shes dangerous

I prefer Discord not being ready to turn her back to stone if it doesn't work.
Like its basically having a gun secretly aimed behind her head and if she doesn't act like they want her to, BANG.
In fact Discord shouldn't be allowed anywhere near her since its HIS fault she(and the other 2) ended up freaking worse, his dumb plan got them to be worse.

Just ignore that odd comment everyone, it's not important at all

My thoughts exactly friend! I was actually about to compose a very similar suggestion

I think Carolyn said she likes Cozy Glow and st**** Chrysalis

No offense i think thats what she meant😐

Also

You're the one mean Carolyn

Look im also not trying to be mean but i just cant😔

Im a little bossy tho😒

I think Carolyn said she likes Cozy Glow and st****** Chrysalis

No offense i think thats what she meant😐

Also

You're the one mean Carolyn

Look im also not trying to be mean but i just cant😔

Im a little bossy tho😒

Sunset Stars I have no idea what she meant

And make sure that the other 2 can watch the battle with chrysalis so then they can understand her instead of thinking she is weak.


This is pure genius sad that will never happen since the show ended but maybe they will create a movie about reforming


If Tirek, Cozy Glow & Chrysalis were human at when they NEARLY became reformed: <b>talking about positive stuff</b> Chrysalis: ARGHH! Cozy Glow: Who am I kidding!? Power is better than friendship! Tirek: I will not stop until I get respect from Vorak!

If Tirek, Cozy Glow & Chrysalis were human at when they NEARLY became reformed: *talking about positive stuff* Chrysalis: ARGHH! Cozy Glow: Who am I kidding!? Power is better than friendship! Tirek: I will not stop until I get respect from Vorak!


I would die for reformed chrysalis SO PRETTY AHHH


Heres a thought. Discord was actually working with Celestia the entire time to prepare Twilght for her eventual ascension.
1. He never attacked Canterlot or Celestia when he first escaped.
2. When Twilight went grey, he actually looked a little worried to me. And somehow Celestia knew to send all those freindship lessons after he vanished.
3. He pretty much addmitted it in the final episodes that he staged alot of her toughest challenges to build her up.
Seems to me that he made a deal that as long as Twilight was challenged, he would be free to do whatever chaos was necessary.

@night shroud96 Which brings us back to the point of conspiracy theories like the Discord and Celestia partnership. Even though it is a cartoon, there are a lot of plotholes in mlp. The only advice that I can give is to think up an answer for yourself that both answers your question and makes her ending a happy one. Then spread it like crazy till all bronies consider it canon. Lol

@R F That would be a awful sendoff to Luna's character though that she couldn't handle ruling as anywhere near as long as Celestia did.
Like I said, she didn't rule for much long and the fact if she thinks she is tired of ruling then it renders her attempt to fix her public image and reconnect to the ponies pointless.
Luna can't just suddenly feel like she lose interest in ruling like that.

@night shroud96 I'm assuming she left voluntarily. Running a country is a very time consuming and stressful job. She probably could have lost interest after the episode of switching cutie marks with her sister and realizing that hanging out with nobility actually sucks. Most rulers are actually historically content with retirement because they actually don't have to be in charge of anything or anyone but themselves.

@R F Unless Luna basically had no choice due to she would be separated from Celestia.
Which is really bad too since it makes Celestia look pretty selfish since Luna is basically forced to give up her throne/crown/moon/destiny if she doesn't want to be separated from Celestia. Celestia really didn't take into account about Luna there.
There really could have been a compromise for Luna to continue ruling while still being with Celestia(who has retired). But nope, the writers brushed that aside for the sake of Twilight due to her being the "chosen one".

@night shroud96 It was a diarchy. If Celestia chose her successor and stepped down, there was no reason Luna had to step down as well. Unless she wanted to do so.

@R F That makes no freaking sense.
Luna worked her ass off to improve her image and reconnect with the ponies.  It would be pointless if it turns out she wants to retire from the start and the fact she isn't going to rule for much long.
She clearly enjoyed her job and she clearly enjoyed ruling there.

@night shroud96 I think she was probably ready to retire after the Nightmare Moon fiasco and looking forward to being in charge of her own bedtime.

@R F Doesn't make it ok though.<br>Luna really got screwed in all of this here.

@R F Doesn't make it ok though.
Luna really got screwed in all of this here.

@night shroud96 The entire plan in season 9 revealed he had been behind everything from the moment of his release. Even though Celestia released him to just test Twilight, Discord being Discord, just took it chaotically beyond what was originally intended. The escalation of the original purpose until it blows up in everyone's faces would be well in scope of Discord's past behaviors.

Though his plan  in season 9 would damage her and Luna's reputations big.<br>Really.. Celestia having Twilight be her replacement is really at the expense of Luna there.

Though his plan  in season 9 would damage her and Luna's reputations big.
Really.. Celestia having Twilight be her replacement is really at the expense of Luna there.


"Perhaps I treated you too harshly..."

~ Magic of Friendship

_"Perhaps I treated you too harshly..."_

*~ Magic of Friendship*


Oioioi- can we just- take a moment and talk bout how pretty Chrysalis is when she is reformed in this video-? Like- DAMN


Yep she is so amazing ,cool , awesome and so pretty  you are a good animator


imagination
Some say imagination has another name
Self love
The belief in one's self
That power can be stronger than any magic

*imagination*
Some say imagination has another name
Self love
The belief in one's self
That power can be stronger than any magic


5:11 This design doesn't fit her then.
Since she looks too soft and coddly, unlike Pharynx who looks more intimidating.
Her new design should look more closely to Pharynx


I like that you're going in depth with this - and I'm hoping you could answer question of mine! (It's fine if you don't and if you've already got a video pertinent could you please refer me to it?)
   Do you find it at all disturbing how Human Flash and Pony Twilight substitute  each other for the counter part of each?
   Pony Twilight gets a crush on Pony Flash at first meeting him because of her feelings for Human Flash. Isn't that just emotional displacement?
   Pony Flash and Human Flash are two different people and substituting one for the other is like falling in love with one twin only to go to the second when the first disappears just because they're similar.
   Human Flash never saw Pony Twilight as a princess, just as a girl that he liked. Pony Flash was very aware of her being a princess and that certainly affects how he sees her and interacts with her. So the very basis of their personalities and views are wildly different.
   Likewise Pony Twilight is different from Human Twilight. Just because they are counterparts do not make them clones.
   The fact that both are shown to be transferring at least some affection to the counterpart seems unhealthy to promote in a show.
   What do you think?
PS: I haven't seen much of the show, so my view might be a bit behind if I've missed a huge development, but I'd like your opinion.
PPS: I do get that they're different species, but I think a person is defined by their personalities more than any perception of "race". Relationships on the show seem to not care as much as us real-world people, and with magic it would be solvable. I understand that there are barriers, but a good relationship is worth working and sacrificing for... so why does the show have them both seem to give it up without almost any fight?


A good theory, but keep in mind that technically, Starlight and her troupe put up a similar fight with friendship as well. Sure, it was more covert, but they still used their friendship to take the, quote unquote, "fierceness" away from the changelings. While technically not the best reason to hold a grudge against "friendship," the simple fact that friendship was the first thing that took away the thing that Chrysalis was proud of, definitely complicates matters slightly more than in the video.
Another thing to note is that while yes, pony colonialism and friendship are not technically connected, the fact that the element bearers, Pillars, and the two people who freakin' raise the sun and moon all have used the magic of friendship in the past certainly pins more of a connection between the two than might be expected.

While the strategy of the video could work, I have a feeling that Chrysalis wouldn't be too phased unless Pharynx AND Thorax personally convinced her otherwise. Why? Because, Thorax is the example of "not afraid to defend, even though friendship is his whole shtick now." Seeing Thorax also stick up for himself as opposed to on the sidelines, like in the finale, wouldn't hurt in the slightest.

Also...Chrysalis wouldn't be as easy as you think. In fact, counting the comics as canon, she's come back, on at least three different occasions to try and take revenge. Sure, we have Discord, but if he goes down... I'd be afraid of what happens next. Very afraid. Especially since he'd also be in charge of keeping the other two villains in check, including the one that stole his magic...


You know what I'd like to know? Who provided Chrysalis with love while she was gone?


I always wanted to see Queen Chrysalis reform


Chrysalis was my favorite villain, and i really do feel bad for her, i really wanted her to have a redemption ark.


Chrysalis is cloaked in "Care and Compassion" for her hive but the MOMENT throax turned and didnt need to rip love out for hungry, Chrysalis lost it and doubled down. Chrysalis wants to be in Control no matter what and given a chance to change her malice burnt up the cloak to show her hostile nature. You got a better chance with Tirek over Chrysalis who malice would need pure extermination before even attempts would break through her shell.


Queen Chrysalis look very beautiful when reform


I approve of Chrysalis turning good. Excellent job on the analysis for this video.


"Realistically", you say, talking about a cartoon of magical talking horses

 Great video btw :D


The way to reform chrysalis is to bring pharynx thorax brother <br>He used to think that friendship was all about cuteness and hugs but the hive proved him wrong and showed him that friendship is not only about hugs they showed that friend's help each other and without a friend life is more harder and he could show chrysalis and she could rule the hive again

The way to reform chrysalis is to bring pharynx thorax brother
He used to think that friendship was all about cuteness and hugs but the hive proved him wrong and showed him that friendship is not only about hugs they showed that friend's help each other and without a friend life is more harder and he could show chrysalis and she could rule the hive again


Problem reforming Discord failed spectacularly, the reason the mean 3  became so powerful was because Discord made them work together.


Reformed Chrysalis's reformed version is really pretty honestly


Reformed Chrysilas is absolutely gorgeous.


There is one problem Chrysalis can still steal love maybe even from the new Hive and Tirek can still take magic from ponies and other creatures so they can do that


You should be the prime reformer prince of equestria!


Sawtooth im a pony fan and have been for the past 10 years! I KNOW a possible season 10- maybe more seasons! I would LOVE that and so would others (im not 100% sure if this would be good or bad but it dosnt have to be all good or all bad right?) also I REALLY hope Lauren Faust brings back MLP!


I think you're focusing too much on Chrysalis's thoughts on the changelings and trying too hard to make her character match Pharynx. It's true that Pharynx is similar to Chrysalis in cold demeanor, but Pharynx always cared about the hive and its strength, while Chrysalis had six solid appearances of being a tyrannical, selfish lunatic who treats her followers like extensions of her will and boasts no defensible evidence that she ever, at any point, gave a single f*ck about the changelings or their culture past their use to her as tools. About the only time she ever expressed remote 'concern' was when she first said to Celestia, 'it is my job to find food for my subjects', in Canterlot Wedding. Unfortunately, this is dubious evidence at best, because 'finding the changelings food' is synonymous with 'I get to remain in power'. In retrospect from the S6 finale and beyond, it's obvious that her focus was on herself when she said this, not on the changelings.

Unlike a lot of the other villains on this show, I'd classify her behavior as the best example of being truly psychotic. When she lost her power she grew deranged and mad, creating stumps to bark her frustrations and orders at, instead. When she was in charge, she seemingly never even tried to find the changelings a better way of life than to eternally feel starved, since, according to Thorax, changelings were always hungry. Instead, I believe Chrysalis opted to use that eternal hunger as a carrot on the metaphorical stick, keeping the changelings desperate and ready to conquer nations for her. Starlight directly challenged this hunger conundrum by telling Chrysalis that there was a better way, and Chrysalis's only response was that it was her decision how to treat the changelings, not Starlight's.

She denounced the mere concept of friendship twice not because she didn't like how weak the changelings became, but because the very idea of friendship and unity undermines her insecure need for power and control on a level that goes far beyond what any other villain had.

You talked about how Fluttershy made Discord choose between tyranny and friendship. Discord wanted attention more than actually being a tyrant in charge of everyone, so he opted for friendship because he could get attention through friendship. This is supported by the fact that he never forced ponies to directly obey him, even when chaos was swept along the land, pranking some while deharmonzing others. As long as the world was chaos he didn't really care one way or the other about what happened to the inhabitants or what they did. Chrysalis doesn't want attention, she just wants to be in control. There's no argument from canonical evidence alone that suggests she would ever want anything else, which means she will always, ultimately choose tyranny.

That aside, assuming redemption is possible, the only way she could be redeemed in a way that didn't feel shoehorned is if she redeemed over the course of an entire show, like Regina, aka the Evil Queen did on Once Upon a Time. Regina started off as a malicious b*tch, and it took her numerous seasons to go from vile villain to anti-hero. She never became a rule-following good guy, in fact, she never really became that pleasant, but she got to a point of being able to co-exist with the good guys and that was enough. I think that's the very best you could ever hope for from Chrysalis.


its like youtube can read my mind about MLP characters. (i always wanted to know what would be a best accurate character of Reformed Chrysalis)


I have a theory:

If Celestia can turn into Daybreaker  and Luna can turn into Nightmare moon, then MAYBE Chrysalis was the lost Crystal Princess before she became a changeling.

My theory is that maybe something happend between Chrysalis and Sombra leading to a war between them both and after a while she found out that Sombra became corrupt because of their argument.

Falling into deep regret then she lost her sanity and became a changeling just like how Luna became Nightmare moon, she knew she needed help to turn back but she didnt know how.

She returned to her kingdom and nobody can recognize her because of the holes on her body, everypony feared her they would run away everytime she would step into the kingdom,

Because of fear she lost every ounce of love inside her and it drew her mad and sad, she wanted that love that she had before and she wanted everypony to care for her again.

She decided to seek for revenge after to find out she was replaced by cadence and it drew her even more mad, she couldn't defeat the new Princess without the love, because of the love of the Crystal ponies it made her strong and powerfull but without it she is weak.

She needed to find a way to help herself, so she decided to turn her backs on the kingdom she onced love and take everything back especially the love she needed.

Or maybe she was Princess Amore ( The first ruler of The Crystal Empire) and she also had a big past with Sombra

I would absolutely love to see Chrysalis story we knew nothing about her?!


Wait a sec- in the statue, cosy glow is FLYING. Is she attached to anything? Or is she breaking the laws of physics

@Soft Wax on one hand yes, on the other i've seen some weird yet firmly standing sculptures before... Probably depends on what kind of stone they're made of


it'll be so incredible queen chrysails would become good.


Aight can we just talk about how PRETTY reformed Chrysalis is?


Reforming chrysalis would be easy just makes fluffle puff a canon character lol🥰


i think reforming Chrysalis might be a little more complicated than that, but also i think it could work.<br>i think more like this doesn't change her mind by one day to another, but this could be a start.

i think reforming Chrysalis might be a little more complicated than that, but also i think it could work.
i think more like this doesn't change her mind by one day to another, but this could be a start.


Chrysalis is Beautiful when she is on her new form


A reformed chrysalis would be hella awesome but gotta remember that if u look at life thro her eyes, she’s wasn’t entirely evil, just looking for places that could help feed herself and the hive like any other creature. That thing they feed on just happens to be the love ponies share with one another so it makes her look evil


Ugh I still have so many questions of the "monster" the Young Six defeated, and something happened to the CMC, and Cozy Glow's parents.

Although I might have an answer to Cozy Glow's parents. I mean why is she in a Friendship school unlike a normal school like Ms. Cheerlie's classes. I'm guessing that she was abandoned by her parents and just sent her to this school because of her manipulative behavior.
This explains why her parents weren't alerted for her evil actions.

I dunno. Just a guess

@Some Guy that uses the internet Well that bothers me so much.
Luna never got to experience life as much as Celestia did and her losing her immortality makes the dumb retirement stuff worse.
Luna didn't get to rule anywhere near as long as Celestia did nor did she enjoyed her destiny much as she did, her having to give up her immortality too just makes this even more worse.

@night shroud96 it might be that alicorns lose their immortality when they get replaced.

And on how are Luna and Celestia doing after the timeskip and such.

What if cozy is cosmos' child? We all know that cosmos is impossible to reform, it's like trying to reform freeza.


Pharynx, the key to reforming Queen Chysalis, also the handsome one.


I often wondered if there was a powerful secret villain who was behind all the other villains, someone unseen, working behind the scenes and in the shadow, perhaps one that somehow tied in with previous MLP generations, A major enemy we never knew was even there, perhaps trapped in another dimension and could only manipulate others from there rather than being able to physically get involved...? (I was going to write a story idea on this for a possible film, featuring a villain called Mara Queen of Nightmares, who was once an ordinary Pony who was corrupted by an experimental And potent dark magic spell which turned her into the evilest creature ever in the Pony world, Mara then nearly destroyed what would eventually become Equestria but was defeated and banished by the first and most powerful queen of the Pony world... Majesty, who became the very first Alicorn, their battle seemingly cost her life (although Mara had as the last bit of spite she could muster turned her to stone).... many aeons later, using all the dark power she'd fostered & collected since the recreation of the Pony world (know as now Equestria) she finally escapes to wreak havoc upon everyone and take over, not even the Mane-Six, the princesses or even Discord are strong enough to stop her, their only hope is for Twilight to use her magic of friendship to revive Mara's old enemy...)


"Pony Colonialism" is not a phrase I though I would hear.


The small pony is prob the easiest to reform or not depending

because children- it’s a child- can’t be too hard right?


Fun Fact:
Discord asked the royal sisters to turn him into stone by his own wish.
It is mentioned in the mlp comic about cosmos.

Fun Fact:
Discord asked the royal sisters to turn him into stone by his own wish.
*It is mentioned in the mlp comic about cosmos.*

@night shroud96 i havent read all of the comic and didnt read them in order, so i didnt remember wich of them are soft canon or non canon. the comic that i know canon are the season 10 comics.

@Andy Santian Which comics are canon actually?

@Varice Peyes official, but only some of the comic canon to the tv series, most of them not.

@Mr. Chaos Vicious Tell that to that blasted arc since it did happen.<br>Really messes up Luna and Celestia's achievement there.

@Mr. Chaos Vicious Tell that to that blasted arc since it did happen.
Really messes up Luna and Celestia's achievement there.

@night shroud96 So,good old Discord taking the blame for something that he did NOT really do? And erasing everybody's memories so that none could prove the contrary/contest that as well? That really does NOT sound like something,that the old "Discord The God Of Chaos" would do to me. That's pretty crazy...... 🤔

When?<br>I only recall they turn him to stone with in that "retcon" 'that blasted arc did with it turns out Cosmos caused that horrible mess and Discord erased their memories and made it look like he did it.

When?
I only recall they turn him to stone with in that "retcon" 'that blasted arc did with it turns out Cosmos caused that horrible mess and Discord erased their memories and made it look like he did it.


Chrysalis should rule alongside Thorax as mother and son 👑👑


I always wondered where Cozy Glows parents were!


I don't want chrysalis to be reformed, I want her to fly off and just be a minor threat like a bogeyman that strikes rarely and slowly trying to find a new give (hence why she strikes rarely because she wants to get a new hive to try to rule) I know if she gets reformed she's gonna loose alot of what I love about her

Then again I am also the guy who sides with the sith in star wars but this isn't about that but that's just my opinion

I don't want chrysalis to be reformed, I want her to fly off and just be a minor threat like a bogeyman that strikes rarely and slowly trying to find a new give (hence why she strikes rarely because she wants to get a new hive to try to rule) I know if she gets reformed she's gonna loose alot of what I love about her

Then again I am also the guy who sides with the sith in star wars *but this isn't about that* but that's just my opinion


You forget that Chrysalis is after Starlight, to get revenge over her for what happened with Thorax and her hive is one thing, but Starlight is still another issue she would have to overcome. And considering how far she is into it, not sure you can truly reform Chrysalis in the end.


Bottom line is that for the series there needed to be concrete villains who never changed their hearts.  They can only be reformed in fanfiction and otherwise the story goes on forever and now that it's officially over there is no going back.

Twilight and Celestia would also never release them because they have proven themselves to be true villains and unchangeable.

Out of all 3 Cozy Glow would probably be the easiest to reform,  however she is a good liar and she could easily fake reforming and is an opportunist.

Tirek might be the second hardest,   he is addicted to power and also does not want to give it up.

And twice Crysalis indeed almost opened up but rejected those alternative feelings.

But again the real reason why they won't ever change is because there needs to be an example that even despite the offers and opportunity of true love and friendship there are simply someponies who won't ever accept it and you can't make them.  And you can't force friendship.


I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE CHANCE TO CHANGE!! THEY ONLY NEED A LITTLE PUSH

FINALLY Someone said it!<br>You i can 100% say that have to hate in your life and you see the good things in others!

FINALLY Someone said it!
You i can 100% say that have to hate in your life and you see the good things in others!


To be honest Chrysalis has a great villain song, it’s no Hellfire but still it’s great


This is a really good point and well thought through but my question is where is the statue now in the new generation and where’s discord perhaps after all the mane six had long been gone he lost touch with the pony’s I think that if he was still around he would point the pony’s to friendship like fluttershy did for him but maybe when magic went out he couldn’t get to aquestria  but discord doesn’t seem to have the same magic as the pony’s so maybe his magic didn’t go out and he took the statue to his realm but with all that’s going on with all the CHAOS wouldn’t u think the spirit of chaos had something to do with it perhaps without fluttershy and the mane six around he fell back into evil?


I’m just gonna let cozy glow be cozy glow, she is cre cre!


"pharanyx is the key to reforming chrysalis"

my lizard brain: ....great, now i ship them

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The changelings were born from a tree wrapping its roots around a bone. In the comics, Starswirls found the tree and saw the wrapped bone, so he nailed a warning sign on the tree for dark magic. Over time, the hole that the nail was in grew larger, and eventually gave birth to Chrysalis.... and maybe the changelings, idk.
I've always bin confused on how queen bugs like ants and bees lay eggs without mating properly, but its a bugs life (not sorry). But when they introduced Pharynx as Thorax's older brother, I got confused. Aren't all of the changelings are siblings. Sure, some even mated with each other but still, didn't they acknowledge their birth?

The changelings were born from a tree wrapping its roots around a bone. In the comics, Starswirls found the tree and saw the wrapped bone, so he nailed a warning sign on the tree for dark magic. Over time, the hole that the nail was in grew larger, and eventually gave birth to Chrysalis.... and maybe the changelings, idk.
I've always bin confused on how queen bugs like ants and bees lay eggs without mating properly, but its a *bugs life* (not sorry). But when they introduced Pharynx as Thorax's older brother, I got confused. Aren't *all* of the changelings are siblings. Sure, some even mated with each other but still, didn't they acknowledge their birth?

Well hecc you got it stuck in my noggin now

@Mayday Baeday Thanks to certain Headcannons, her mother would be Queen Arachne. In other words, her mother is a spider changeling...

@Mayday Baeday Yeah m8 no hard feelings.

@CaptainOpvious dude I’m not disagreeing I’m just saying there are other people that are saying that, and you’d be better off responding to those.

@Mayday Baeday sooo what? An adopted child will call his adoptive parents ''parents'' or maybe after the metamorphosis changelings are dependent. Still all are her children. ;)

@CaptainOpvious Ocellus called them her parents, sooo

@Mayday Baeday Parents or guardians? The infos are to scarce anyways<br>i saw the quotes chill

@Mayday Baeday Parents or guardians? The infos are to scarce anyways
i saw the quotes chill

@CaptainOpvious nowhere did I say they are not her children. You'd be better off finding someone talking about the fact that in the new changeling colony, changelings seem to have 'parents' that are not Queen Chrysalis.

@Mayday Baeday its confirmed that they are her children she even said in the comics that they are her children,....

@illicxt OH NO!!!<br>Why do all my most creative ships end like this?

@illicxt OH NO!!!
Why do all my most creative ships end like this?

But-

.......Chrysalis is Pharanyx’s mother

INCEST! Or should I say.... INSECT! (Im not funny)

@Mayday Baeday Also,this is a show they made for kids so why would they need to include a King

DON'T GET ME WRONG,adults watch this too! I'm just saying that is what they made it for

Mrs Abbas I can’t understand your comment beyond "who is Chrysalis’ mother" and basically, in many insect colony species (bees, ants, etc) a queen is born from a previous queen (duh) and then leaves that home and quite literally births her own colony. So where is Chrysalis’ mother? Logically, either dead or somewhere off in another land feeding on love.

@Mayday Baeday that's so true... But who is chrysalises Mother residences mother lots of children why chrysalis???

People in this comment chain are dumb.
The changelings are obviously based on bugs/insects.... Let me ask you, is there any king chrysalis?

No?
Then who do you think she’s having kids with?

You cant ship him with his mother!!! lol

I know right?!? But isn't all the changlings chrysalis's sons


Hi, I have a idea to make a fanfiction using your 3 villain reforming videos as a planned out summary my character thought of. The story will be about Drananja (my mlp character) discussing the idea with Twilight and equestria's other leaders, Dragon Lord Ember, Prince Rutherford, Queen Novo, King Thorax, Princess Cadence and Shining Armor, Grandpa gruff, and the leader of the Kirin, alongside equestria's other important figures Twilight's friends, Starlight Glimmer, Sunburst, Starswirl and the pillars (and Stigyan), Discord, Spike, and the two characters we'll need to reform them Pharynx and Diamond Tiara (please correct me if I missed a character). I need your approval before I can go even further with this fanfiction, so can I use these videos as an inspiration for my FanFiction (don't worry I'll credit you and the videos at the beginning and the end of the fanfiction)?


I think that Tirek and Cozy glow don’t need to be apart for this, but Chrysalis certainly does.


Chrysalis would be a valuable addition to. changelings I think.


You know there’s proof that that’s not a chrysalis really looks like potential into the background and you’ll see a picture of her just being with glasses and really nice and cute


I really like this theory it seams pretty plausible. I think Chrysalis would find herself happy in the role of royal advisor and the link to the past, cultivating traditions and preserving culture of changelings with a small alteration that would fit the reformed hive. I mean it's in the name, Chrysalis is the middle stage of transformation, a link between past and future!


That KSP music at 4:40 suggests that if Chrysalis can't find where she belongs through friendship, she can always take the hive, start a space program, and achieve what no Equinoid has done before...

[OVER G!!!] [OVER G!!!] [OVER G!!!]
"I THOUGHT I SAID TO INSTALL THE THRUST LIMITER ON THE BOOSTER!!!  THIS IS NOT A THRUST-LIMITED BOOSTER!!!"

That KSP music at 4:40 suggests that if Chrysalis can't find where she belongs through friendship, she can always take the hive, start a space program, and achieve what no Equinoid has done before...

[OVER G!!!] [OVER G!!!] [OVER G!!!]
_"I THOUGHT I SAID TO INSTALL THE THRUST LIMITER ON THE BOOSTER!!!  THIS IS NOT A THRUST-LIMITED BOOSTER!!!"_


I want to ask if chrysalis was actually a alicorn before


i would love to see c hrysalis reformed. she has potential plu8s that reformed look in the video looks pretty and that would be interesting if that would be her canon reformed look.


I like this theory so much that it’s now canon in my head.


Imma leave this to pony magic real quick-


i think when cozy glow was with Tirek and Chrysalis and Chrysalis start spitting about friendship, i think there's a specific idealogy between Friendship, and "Pony friendship" going on in her head. She definitely correlates ponies with friendship, but i dont think she hates friendship as a whole, since she felt an almost friendship and/or motherly responsibility for taking care of her hive.


Ngl, Good Queen Chrysalis is absolutely stunning like the damn crystal she is!

That's one of the reasons, why i love fanfics.


I've always wanted chrysalis to be reformed out of all the villains.  She seamed to have the most potential.


Yes I love this chrysalis is my most favorite character and I actually kind of thought about the change of the changelings the same way but it made me look at it differently


I would love to see a reformed Chrysalis. She’s a strong Queen and loves her tribe dearly. I’m sure she misses them.


I was actually thinking that Pharynx might also be important in this too. Although I was mainly thinking about it when you mentioned that supposed group of unreformed changelings that want to bring their queen back, and what she might think when she learns of a changeling that did prefer how they were before but still preferred to stay with the hive instead of going after her and joining her.


She needs to reform she’s so pretty and will be a good helper and proctor


how do u come up with these??? ITS BRILLIANT


Sawtooth... remember this: <br>The changelings choose to leave the hive so How would Crysallis agree to be reformed then when they abandoned her

Sawtooth... remember this:
The changelings choose to leave the hive so How would Crysallis agree to be reformed then when they abandoned her


I think out of all of them, Tirek was the one who got the closest, mostly because at the time, he could have just left Cozy trapped in the cave, and left Chrysalis drained and unable to stop him and made out like gangbusters.
Cozy’s the hardest, because of what she learned about friendship, she could very well fake being reformed, but still be evil.
And honestly, I do think chrysalis could definitely be redeemed like you said. She’s kind of in the middle in terms of difficulty, because she is most definitely on edge about that, and would probably be actively against it.  I think another thing that could help her would be not seeing it AS “the hated friendship” she’s so against. She might even have several moments when she ends up hiding away alone trying to re-establish that she’s right and the others are wrong... but as you mentioned, she might not be alone there, shed have Discord watching over her and giving her things to think about.  In the end, I can definitely see her coming back to her hive, and being a much happier queen.

@Martin Gray Maybe he was planning to <i>eat</i> the bird.

@Martin Gray Maybe he was planning to _eat_ the bird.

@Marc Suraci I forgot about that... thanks...

Or when Tirek caught a bird with his hands after it fell out of a tree


If they didn't end the series we could've seen them possibly being reformed


I think Chrysalis had a lot more left of her that would have led to her being reformed. I feel like those stories weren’t ended.


“Today I’m tackling chrysalis” I laughed my head off bruh


And plus she does not want her hive to starve to death just like her loving mother would do. A mother would work hard for her child so that there childrens future will be succesful

If she loved her Hive THAT much, she would of embrace the change but at that moment, she realized she would no longer Utterly Control her hive with a Iron Fist. She rather of lose it all instead of losing control and letting her hive embrace no hungry.

@Kitty25 Control is often mistaken for love. Some control as parents is needed (dont run in the road). What she did was not be a mom but a totalitarian leader- you want food, attack

@Kitty25 She probably thought that friendship was bad.

If she truly loved her hive, she would have let them transform when she found out it meant they would never be hungry again. She loved CONTROLLING her hive; she didn't actually love her hive.


I kinda agree with Crysalis. Yeah sure the Changlings did lose their hunger yet also their culture and somewhat power. Before the Changlings were reformed they were hostile yet as well smart beings trying to provide food for themselves (in this case love). They definitely knew how to fight and if the ponies would have had accepted the Changlings then they would look a lot different. Now most of the Changlings ahve become less aggressive and almost weak. Yeah sure with the hunger gone it’s quite good yet it feels like the reformed Changlings have almost lost a part of themselves, like taking away their hunger was ironically enough taking away their power in a way. Don’t get me wrong, some reformed Changlings are still aggressive as before yet that’s barely anything compared to the rest of the hive. Forax feels a bit like a weak leader compared to the mighty Queen Chrysalis who was able to keep the hive mind (mostly) feed and still somewhat thriving, now their weak being who have left behind their culture and their power. I’m sure that the Changlings could have been reformed in a better way, one way or another


I think the video makes a lot of good points. My one beef is that I don't think the Changelings really HAD a culture before Thorax took charge. They were essentially predatory parasites who went around attacking other creatures to steal their love, at least so far as we saw. They had a community of sorts, but it existed by preying on other creatures and didn't seek to make itself sustainable or to make positive contributions to the world. Even Pharynx's guard patrol was more a matter of practicality than an actual cultural aspect.


I don't think Heart's Warming Eve that Changelings celebrated was merely an imitation, it was certainly introduced by Equestria but Changelings have their own interpretation of the celebration. Family came together and it's could also mean as a celebration for Equestria-Changelings strong relation. It's what always happened in our world, most of celebration was brought to another country from another influential country sometimes through the trade. Besides, people often forget that, Thorax never wanted to be a King, he was choose because he stood up for his belief in front of Chrysalis and save his friends. Especially after Chrysalis reject the reformed Changelings or as the fandom wiki site called it's, the Metamorphosis Changelings and their new standpoint on life. He also live for a long time in Crystal Empire, so the influence of the Pony couldn't be help. Remember, Chrysalis called Thorax as traitor, so I think what happened to him was he tried to tell Chrysalis that there's a better way than go to war with their neighbours and make enemies but Chrysalis reject him and called him as a traitor for following what she believes the Pony way of life and banished him from the hive as she mentioned that she didn't even want to hear his name in her hive. (Even Chancellor Neighsay believed that friendship was a pony way of life and culture). You could see this even in our world like how Japanese culture was heavily influenced by Tang China and how Buddhist took a root in Japanese culture despite most local Japanese opposed it at first. Now the culture brought from Tang China have completely integrated into Japanese culture and have developed independently. Even England go through this when they came under Norman and Viking ruler, the impact on English and it's culture could still be seen. The closest example was Philippines, originally Catholic was imposed by forced on the local population by the Spanish but eventually Christianity took root and become a weapon that was eventually used to fought and repelled against the Spanish rules.

Besides, Chrysalis was effectively a dictator that enforced her view and beliefs on her citizens and refused to even listened to any adviced or their problems. She believes she's always right. It's like how our parent forced us their view and planned our life like marriage life. Based on how easily Changelings change their views and standpoint simply by hearing Starlight logic and speech and Thorax determination to save his friends, it seems they just mindlessly followed Chrysalis but not to fond of life under her rules.


You should do Sombra, as well as the other three.

@☆𝓜𝓪𝓻𝓪𝓵𝔂𝓷☆ So is Discord, yet he became good. For the most parts.