You can actually get monitization back without going to court. Just call their bluff and deal with the video being shut down for 2 weeks. It's a pain, but I've done it and won.
@Polocatfan Well YouTube sides with UMG for all creators, dunno what to tell ya. Same surprisingly happens if you use RWJ's "Doin ya mum" clips for a meme. YouTube won't let me pass my counter-notification no matter what. It's fucking bullshit.
Despite how much you state the fair use law and how your meme is transformative, you always get this if it's related to UMG.
Dear Kippykip,
Thank you for your counter notification. Unfortunately, it's unclear to us whether you have a valid reason for filing a counter notification, so we won't be able to honour your request.
Counter notifications are only used when content has been removed as a result of mistake or misidentification, which may include exceptions like fair use. Keep in mind that using this process may result in the claimant filing a lawsuit against you for copyright infringement, so you should evaluate your legal position before filing a counter notification.
@Kippykip then take them to court? If you're not willing to follow through with the law, why would they not use that against you? UMG is not the only part of the problem; people being unwilling to take legal action is equally to blame.
Is it time consuming, expensive, and a pain in the ass in general? Sure. But if it means that much to you, then you should be willing to go the distance. If you're not, you're willingly submitting to them when they have no legal standing, and thus you are an enabler. Either stop whining and take the next step, or don't whine because you are just as culpable as they are.
There is recourse. You not being willing to take that recourse is your problem; not the systems. The option is there.
It's pathetic that your solution is to bitch in the comments rather than take serious action. Just as pathetic as it is for UMG to illegally claim videos.
Cory Goodman it’s the equivalent of someone getting robbed. Except the robber leaves his home address, driver’s license, and phone number behind, and instead of going to the authorities, they go and bitch to all their friends about how they got robbed.
@CGoody Not everyone has the knowledge or the money to do that, so... can you really blaim them when they find they have no options for dealing with these asshats?
Cory Goodman You're right, I guess I should just have the money and legal assistance to attack a giant company. I don't have those, but if I just start having them right now, everything would be fine.
@CGoody I mean technically it's an unfair burden, but yes, we should be hurting UMG, even if it hurts us, however we'll need to unite. any 1 of us just doesn't have the money to take UMG.
@Blueberry Blues crowdfunding solves that, or lawyers who take a percentage after winning. Stop whining the same nonsense I've already answered. Unethical isn't inherently illegal, and there are solutions. Cry about it.
@Tom Hill exactly. Talking as if nothing can be done is in of itself a problem. As a community, there are clearly ways to fight back. The problem is the community will talk about it, and don't actually do anything or try anything; they just incessantly complain.
No one said it would be easy, but there is a way to fight back legally. It's up to us to do so, or support those that actually.... Take the shot
@CGoody Yeah, legally, heheh, sure buddy. I'm picking up what your throwing down. Though personally I'd start with ..."property value adjustment", then work from there.
But yeah we fundamentally agree. Fight evil, until you win.
@Tom Hill if one is going to lay down at their feet when they attack, they really have no right to complain about it.
I mean, they can, but it's meaningless nonsense at that point
If someone crowdfunds a legal campaign against false copyright claims by large companies, I'll be sure to donate. Sadly, I have a feeling I'll be one of the few rather than the many.
@CGoody An average person couldn't feasibly crowd fund anywhere near enough legal funds to fight the fucking music industry lol. A lawyer who takes a percentage after you win, you'd have to win first and after to those terms. You're not exactly being fair here.
@Vainglory the most they can do is drag it out; they cant change the facts of the case. A reasonable judge + a competent lawyer + a meritorious case + the will to deal with years of prolonging = a win no matter how much funding the opponent has.
Either you have a meritorious case and it's worth fighting to you, or you have no room to complain to begin with. Choosing to not hold those breaking the law accountable is as much of a problem as those breaking the law to begin with.
@CGoody Yeah, take serious legal action that will cost thousands of dollars. I’m sure most people can afford that, while also losing money off their check due to not getting money from the video they made. That’s a bad argument. YouTube is a multibillion dollar company, and they should protect the people who make the content if the company is going to collect so much revenue from creators.
@Serious Saitama I explained my position; put up or shut up. Crowdfunding is a thing. You care so much, you should contribute in some way.
If YouTube did that, they lose safe harbor privelage and they are liable for ANY infringement that takes place. YouTube shouldn't have to pay for your copyright legal issues. If you want that to change, you need to write to your lawmakers and tell them, because YouTube is simply doing what they must to not be liable for other people's infringement.
@CGoody This is such a cowardly take. You’re basically saying you think everything is perfect the way it is and shouldn’t change at all because you suspect that the company might be hurt by redoing their content ID system.
I’m saying that if YouTube is going to host and benefit off of content, it is also their responsibility to make sure copyright is used properly. They’re the host after all, and the content ID system is made for this. Problem is that it sucks because it auto-flags videos for having a second or 2 of said material. The system can’t actually distinguish between what is and isn’t transformative. Not to mention that there are tons of loopholes for people who ACTUALLY INFRINGE ON COPYRIGHT to do so with impunity. They should make it better, content ID is currently the bare minimum of what YouTube needs so that they won’t be held accountable in the event of a lawsuit.
@Serious Saitama No, that's not what I said. I said if you have a problem with the way things are, write to your lawmakers because they're the ones to blame, not youtube. People like you who put words in peoples mouths are insufferable.
If I had a false copyright claim on content I made, you best believe I'd be putting my money where my mouth is, if only because of principle. I'm willing to take a loss over it. You should be too, and so should many others. The fact that people aren't willing to and continue to make excuses about why they aren't is pathetic.
@CGoody That’s the thing. Everything you’re saying comes with the implication that you believe the system is perfectly fine and shouldn’t change. And lawmakers can’t make YouTube change their copyright bot, which is what I’m talking about. Lawmakers also aren’t going to force YouTube to do anything directly, they write laws. People like you, who just hand wave arguments away with “just work to get the laws changed” or “throw money at the problem” are insufferable.
It's because of the human element. A YouTuber has to make a concious decision to strike another YouTuber's video, whereas rights holders don't, because it's all automated for them.
I saw a Youtuber who posted every single Wolfenstein song. I even saw someone put all of Toy story 4, but I guess it was allowed since it had a giant border around the movie.
Guess I was under the assumption that people would watch something before watching a reaction to it.
If all they did was watched reaction videos, then yeah, they’d probably not check out the original video (unless it was linked in the description and they clicked on it).
Even so, I would argue that someone’s reaction is technically original content.
@Fries As you might have guessed I was focused on the worst types. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Gde-5FRWA That sadly youtube allows. Reaction in of itself in original content. But like his example of someone showing his entire 18 minutes videos only adding "Shit this is a very long video" is not really what I call fair use. Imo reaction should follow same fairuse as all other content
@San dro For revenue and copyright purposes, in the scenario you mentioned (whole thing is in the reaction video), I think the uploader of the video being reacted to should get all of the money.
If fair use occurs (say less than a specifically defined portion of the source material), then the original uploader and reaction channel should negotiate a percentage of revenue for both parties.
That being said, it is definitely unfair that reaction channels don’t really have to deal with the metagame when they are technically bootlegging content with minimal modifications.
Gaijin, the developers of War Thunder, use to copyright system to remove videos about their game they don't like and are very open about it. Most recently, a guy did a video about rampant hacking in the community, the video was claimed and removed, and when called out, they said it was policy to remove any content that mentions hacks. They removed something from a platform they don't own for their own internal policy. Nobody should have that kind of power, but here we are.
Say what you will about Trump, it's a super fitting joke for the clip. What he said sounds like something the Joker would say. Trump may not be threatening but I feel like the Joker could say it in a threatening way.
When I get rich I'm hiring Donald trump to act in a Batman parody. (if possible)
theoretically speaking, if you institute a claim against yourself with a dummy account, and some jackass company tries to claim it, would they not technically be stuck in a copyright deadlock, like what jim sterling uses, in that case? He usually does it by using copyright material enough that it triggers two different claims which neither will budge on, but how does that work if YOU use a dummy to do it?
Kiwifarm's owner Josh had a tactic where he'd play conflicting copyright stuff from two companies and it seemed to stop either from claiming it...It was fucking hilarious he'd slip two songs in because of that on his streams.
@Joe Ç I guess that makes sense, although I do know that UMG, Nintendo and sony probably also have their own content owners. But yeah, i'm a bit more familiar with the system than most, not because i've personally ever had direct access to it, but because a former friend of mine had a friend who worked for an MCN and did have direct access. Not only is it automated and you're allowed to theoretically monetize anything that gets matched with virtually no consequences, but there's also a manual claiming tool which they can use to literally search for and claim videos.
@Joe Ç Oh wow, I feel like I shouldn't be surprised by this, but I still am. So, you're saying that this shady company was hired and given access to UMG's content owner and used a bot to scan videos which they submitted via the manual claim tool? So basically, they're also automating the manual claims as well. I'm glad you're bringing this to light, because it explains a lot about why disputes are typically very time-consuming and why these companies seem to not care about fair use: because they hire other companies to handle this which they shirk the responsibility of and give to robots instead.
What if we started taking advantage of the playback speed setting, where the video is like - fast enough to bypass copyright, but if the video is on .5 speed we can watch the video in its source form
@Ugly Bastard Seriously? Jogwheel got access? Good for him! He's the one behind Jon's World and Is It a Good Idea to Microwave This and Movie Night, if I recall correctly. I should go watch some more of his stuff again. Thanks for the reminder.
While it's true that a lot of full episode uploads aren't exactly legal, there are companies who have uploaded full episodes of their shows. In master quality too. Whether it be to thier own channels, or a sister channel for that show. It is hard to tell the difference at times, but it is legal since they DO own the rights.
These channels include WildBrain (LazyTown, The Super Mario Bros. Super Show, Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Johnny Test), TreehouseTV (Little Bear, Franklin, Max and Ruby, Rolie Polie Olie), and of course, channels like Sesame Street and Peppa Pig.
If you ask me, I'd put that somewhere between "Mr. Clean" and "Cold Turkey". While they don't get taken down because of Content ID (they rarely get taken down at all), what usually happens is that the people running the channel block them in certain countries because the distribution rights holder for that country suddenly decided to change thier minds. And it isn't illegal at all because, once again, they own the rights.
you aren't talking about the company's host distributor in that country because it's stupid to even think that company's host going to have more control over rights then the parent company, Then doesn't the distribution rights holder also holds the rights of the show in their country?!!! And also if the owner(who wants to upload the show globally) has just the rights of their show in USA and not copyrighted the material in any other countries or top on that sold it's copyright to other country's distribution rights holder, like an idiot then it doesn't make the company guilty who sold their rights and now wanna have full control over that material....
That’s a valid category on the spectrum. You could call it the rights holder uploading it where they can.
I’d also argue that there is a third variant of the bootlegger called the “abandonware bootlegger”.
This is not to imply that uploading an obscure piece of media is any more legal than a well known one, but there is one thing I would argue:
If what you are bootlegging is old enough (say at least a decade old), and is something that doesn’t really have any commercial viability anymore, then the odds of it staying up increase because the company behind it is less likely to be relying on that content as a significant source of revenue.
He gave the example of Family Guy funny moments compilations. That would be a “Material Bootleg” if you will because that is a fairly well known program (and in particular one that is still in production).
If every single Family Guy episode ever produced was uploaded to this site for free, then the companies that syndicate its reruns would probably lose out on significant revenue.
Take for example MatchGameProductions.
A YouTube channel that uploads complete, full episodes of Match Game (the 70’s run, the 1990-91 version and currently the Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour from 1983-84).
All older versions of a game show, the 70’s and early 80’s versions are reran on television right now, but might not be popular enough for a company to rely on them for significant revenue, and in the case of the 1990 version, it hasn’t been reran on television in 15+ years.
In spite of all the copyrighted material, that channel continues to feature daily uploads after nine years I believe.
Do you think the obscurity of the bootleg impacts the likelihood of it getting taken down?
I personally like one of Jim Sterling's tactics, where he throws in as much assorted footage as possible and just lets the multiple different claimants duke it out.
@Ecrivon Lunyx And socialism will somehow fix this? I also blame us for continuing to deal with youtube's bullshit. We have alternatives. Bitchute is a really good website being supported by very big youtubers yet people still refuse to migrate.
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@Ecrivon Lunyx a capitalist system would entail there being zero regulation. Copyright - an invention of regulation - is the problem, so thus this has little to do with capitalism and a whole lot to do with crappy regulations. Ironically a completely capitalist system would look like youtube prior to the creation of the copy ID system.
@Kodeb8 Talk about bitchute more. I literally have never heard of it. The internet is a big place, and not everybody has had enough time to find the good shit! If you find something awesome, make a video, and leave comments like this! I'll check it out right now.
@Vallis Daemonum Yeah, no. Bitchute is trash in every way imaginable. Poor video quality, tons of misinformation and sensationalism, garbage search engine. Just forget it.
@Owl TeaGames I know! And yeah, bitchute is great. It's a completely uncensored youtube (aside from porn and illegal stuff) Video creators can get payed through a donation button. And like I said, there are many sizable youtubers who upload there too as a backup site. In my opinion though, youtubers should give a bigger reason to go there, such as making bitchute exclusive videos or something. If bitchute succeeds in being a true competitor to youtube and a threat to youtube's relevance, then either youtube is forced to improve their website, or we all just move to bitchute. The only real downside I can see to bitchute is the fact that extremely alt-right white nationalists make videos there. I don't have a problem with those people expressing themselves (even if I don't agree with them), but I can see how that could damage bitchute's image with the general audience, and might be a turnoff for big youtubers wanting to migrate. On the other hand, the fact that they allow such content is proof that they aren't biased towards censoring anyone, which might be a good thing for some youtubers.
@Extra Crispy it won't. Media would just find a way to defend themself. For exapmle internet providers would probably get paid some for straight up blocking infringing notoriusly sites. Copyright Horders would have somewhat harder times I guess.
@Principleship Coleoid in a world without copyright, youtube would have a whole lot more to gain by allowing people to just post copyrighted material for free than anything else. As the video stated, the site was literally built off of the demand for it to some degree. If the businesses are paying youtube millions or billions of dollars, then maybe they might fold, otherwise however they won't since they would have a lot more to gain by simply ignoring them.
RedMatter Well copyright is but a way to protect a form of private property that is 'intellectual'. Copyright law, something pushed by large corporations, is a completely capitalist invention just as lawful protection of the private ownership of any other means of production is, i.e. the protection of private property.
Of course, youtube for a time was becoming bigger than TV and the news outlets started to become second hand as people would get the news which matched their opinion from their chosen youtube personality or channel. The whole "Adpocalypse" horseshit had nothing to do with protecting the integrity of brands. It was about protecting money and social control. It's horrifying how easy people are controlled.
@Kodeb8 Socialism will fix this by violently murdering a bunch of people, presumably many of them will be overreaching TV corporations. After that we can tear down socialism and replace it with capitalism again. Think of it like a detox, only more effective.
@Vallis Daemonum it'll only be a haven until it gets big. Thats what happens. Corporations are those guys you don't invite to parties or let them in on the joke. Cause you know if they get it they'll ruin it. Happened with YouTube and the internet as a whole. Corporations are slowly pushing us off a cliff, inch by inch. Eventually unless we stop corporatism we will run out of cliff and plummet into a deep abiss
UMG does not believe that the Moon is the common treasure of mankind. It owns many, many pieces of music about it. As such, it holds the copyright of the Moon.
Alexey Saranchev I could be completely incorrect but I heard from somewhere a really long time ago that America partially owns the moon, I don’t remember where but I do for sure remember it was a very credible source
I hope in part two you bring up Jim Sterling and how he created a "copyright deadlock" on his videos so basically none of the claiming companies get any revenue
@Lilaniloxi in short, he used copyrighted material from both companies which usually take the revenue and companies which prevent you from getting any revenue.
I know I am super late to this video, but as someone studying media production... yep, once attended a seminar on copyright for extra credit, was met with a discussion on claiming people using your content on YouTube. From everyone in my class to you all, we are about as soulless as you think we are because the industry beats the desire to care out of you.
In all seriousness, this is why I changed my mind away from working in film and tv, to radio.
Fact: I stopped doing YTPs in 2013 because one of my King of the Hill parodies was flagged a dozen times, and even caused my account to receive a copyright strike, which hindered my ability to upload newer videos at the time. Also, a friend of mine who's an indie horror filmmaker once uploaded a short film he made which had a 100% original soundtrack that was composed by another friend of ours. His video got automatically copyright claimed by some EDM artist in Japan, because one of the notes in my friend's soundtrack sounded similar to the same synthesizer used in the Japanese channel's song. Thus, they put ads on his video and gave all of the revenue to the EDM musician in Japan.
@Yudron Micros What I've been doing is using FL Studio to make chiptune remixes of preexisting songs – current music and classical – blended together with orchestra instruments. For example, my Nintendo Mosaic Deconstruction video has a long song that's a remix of classic NES songs mixed with classical instrument synthesizers.
@Baron Julius von Brunk How different are they in terms of composition? I've done chiptune covers that get claimed no matter how different the instruments sound, it just detects the song structure instead, I think.
@Dv2 It varies, honestly. I'd the say the majority of my chiptune songs are completely 8-bit with no additional synthesizers or instruments. Most of my chiptune covers never got claimed, but a few did: "Black Hole Sun" by Soundgarden, "Dogs" by Pink Floyd, and "Heart Shaped Box" by Nirvana all got claimed and my ad revenue was funneled to their record companies. I also got my chiptune cover of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" claimed by Disney, but I filed an appeal to prove that the song was actually a public domain classical music song, and not the specific song from Fantasia.
One of my original pieces (a classical piece) got copyright claimed by some psychadelic band from the 60s for having a literal second of something that didnt even sound similar.
From what ive heard, youtube's copyright system is more the fault of them having to rigidly follow the DMCA, rather than from youtube's own choice. From the way the US copyright system is made and since youtube is an american company, there's very little they can do when a video is claimed, they pretty much have to follow the claimant's request. Youtube has to do this or face legal wrath.
Could someone research this for me? I dont even know, and wikipedia is written too hard for me to understand it
It has become increasingly difficult to make YTPs of content that I want to use because of this exact reason. Sure I could use some obscure video from 1997 that 3 people have seen and has no copywrite but what's the point? I would love to make more YTPs but more often than not they get flagged for a few seconds of some bullshit. Then most appeals get denied because they don't give a FUCK.
YTPs are an art form, and youtube is killing them.
@Lazys The dank engineer [BACK] if you watched the same video i did it even explains how suing somebody is so much more expensive and you's end up losing more money in the proscess, especially considering that they aren't even in the same country as you.
MeatballBagel upload them on bitchute and link to them from YouTube using the announcement feature then, there’s nothing stopping you from breaking free of j℮wtubes chains.
Waaaaay back in the day, like no more than a year into YouTube's existence, I decided to upload my favorite clip from Late Night with Conan O'Brien. I didn't know anything about copyright laws and was under the impression anything was fair game. I ripped the clip from a file sharing website and very proudly uploaded it. 24 hours later I didn't just receive a copyright strike from YouTube, I received a cease and desist type email from NBC Universal threatening me with legal action. It scared the crap out of a young me and I immediately deleted the video.
hey Emp, I’ve been a fan since the old YTP days and I just want to say your content has taken an amazing turn. I’m way more excited for new YouTube geographics and rant stuff, it’s much more interesting. What’s important though is that you have fun making the stuff you’re making, not curving your videos to appeal to masses, and I really respect that from any kind of YouTuber nowadays. thank you, for extremely good content.
I give this a lot of thought being that I love Nintendo and use copyrighted stuff all the time.
I made a fan edit of someone's bird and it was a positive video made as a gift. People that were obviously viewing the original bird video the clips were taken of from Facebook just came by and called me a theif and I talked about both fair use and the fifth factor transformative use. To no avail, why I think debating the topic with minion loving facebookers will bring about any intelligent discussion is failure on my part lol
Anyhow, I hope you cover fifth factor transformative use in the next video because it's one of the most important additions to fair use law for us that live on the gray area.
Coming back to this series after awhile; always impressed by the research and scripting you do Emp. Love your downward spirals, hope you feel it's worth it !
I poured hundreds of hours into making a 3 part documentary about Pride Fighting Championships, only to have Part 2 get blocked 4 months and 100k views AFTER it had been uploaded. The appeal system is ridiculous. If the UFC took my video down, how in the hell is appealing to them to reinstate it going to work? No one was watching an hour long documentary as a way to circumvent paying the UFC money to watch an 8 minute long fight, the video was 100% in the category of fair use and transformative, but as long as the copyright holders are the people who decide whether or not a video stays up, creators who use copyrighted works stand ZERO chance of getting their stuff unblocked
Man, that old school YT logo makes me so nostalgic. Back when you could watch entire cam rips of films that were STILL IN THEATRES just broken into a couple of separate parts. Goooood times.
It'll be interesting to see how this situation evolves. It's definitely a problem that rights-holders claim videos for instances of fair use... but then there are also channels like yours that just indiscriminately use anyone's music they feel like for background ambiance, completely abusing fair use yourself.
I realize now what i find so appealing about your channel. The well versed and informed content that you do. It took me a while but it had finally hit me, theres another youtuber who does archives for speedrunning world records, Summoning Salt, his videos are like documentaries the way he formats them. While i was watching your Dale Earnhardt video you had used the same musical transition he does for most of his videos and it clicked. (around the 25 minute mark if anyone cares) tl;dr Thank you for producing higher quality content thats well researched and versed.
@Your Neighborhood Memelord I'd say a good chunk of it is comprised of spammers of the "Kono Dio da!" and "Muda × some large number" lines, but there's still a small faction that knows their way around some of the smarter memes, most of which come from areas that haven't been animated yet. (Think Parts 6-8.)
@IspamObjection That's all of part 4 you're talking about. I mean, Giorno's outfit is canonically both blue and pink. I don't mean he switches between them, I don't mean it's a two-colored outfit, I just mean it's either consistently pink or consistently blue. But not both at the same time.
Oh yeah I am aware of that, morioh yellow sky was the first thing I could think of when it came to very apprant examples of colour and not giving a shit in JJBA.
@Taser Tag "Ngl not all the colour palettes in JJBA can be considered canonically correct, so I've seen characters in quite a few shades now." cough cough PANACOTTA FUGO cough cough
@IspamObjection first, what is the original photo of your pfp?
second, what emp did was a bold move indeed. keep in mind, nintendo copystriked several youtube channels that uploaded extensions of their songs. although, i think they have been more calmer when it comes to copystriking people these days, idk
@ziodyne44 I think Nintendo has always been lenient with the actual usage of music in their videos, especially ones ripped from Smash (whether it be because they're more accessible or because they're special remixes made for a single game series), but has wanted to crack down on the outright uploading of the full content (i.e: extended music rips). I remember being surprised back in 2014ish that videos I was watching used Smash Bros. Brawl music and stayed unmuted and untouched probably to this day while similar videos that used a single song from Halo would have the whole thing muted or taken down almost immediately.
I mean, Nintendo's a fascinating case with copyright claiming on YouTube in general given they were pretty slow to adopt the idea that lets players are more beneficial to their business than one would assume. Sometimes it just feels like they aren't entirely sure how the system they've been given works and isn't able or willing to exploit it as much as the music corporations are.
Oh and for sauce for the pfp, go on gelbooru and type in "rainbow_mika blanka" and it should be in the first line of results
I once uploaded a four hour movie made by myself. In a five second scene someone sang the first line of the hymn of the 101st airborne military unit. It is not even copyrighted. Bamm, got blocked.
You know what I want to know? Do YouTube sponsors actually look at the ads people put out for them and review those? Because if so then Emp should get more of a cut for that NordVPN one.
The worst part about this is that it seems so easy to fix. In the 'claim screen' (not a creator, clearly), you can see what percentage of a video contains copyrighted content. YouTube could just make it so companies can only claim monetisation, removal, etc, if that percentage is over a certain number, and that number would be affected by the genre a video is put into, eg. Gaming: 15%, Movies/Film/Review/Music: 45%, Education: 30%, ect. This way, if the claimant wanted to claim anything below that number, they would be the ones who would have to file an appeal with YouTube to claim the video. To make the system slightly more balanced to prevent bootleggers from having the material being 30% and then something else for the other 70%, copyright holders can manually review videos that are under the percentage limit, and file a more specialised appeal that is processed quicker/with higher priority to have the video removed. There are probably flaws with this system but it would surely provide a more even balance of power between creators, copyright holders, and the YouTube corporation, and the extra effort needed to demonetise or remove videos would hopefully discourage corporations from abusing the system as much while protecting Fair Use.
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I wish we could find a way to fix this scenario. I wish we could stop the revenue claiming maybe by having the claim having to go through a jury of sorts.
Great content as usual. I really think YouTube is dying because they are slowly pushing creators down, while propping up companies. I hope a new medium comes our way where we don't have to worry about being throttled, or copyright striked. Keep it up.
I would love to see a load of smaller youtubers band together and instigate a class action lawsuit over the Content ID system. Because it's clear the system is not upholding the idea of fair use.
I really like your videos because you have so much nuance. You actually inform people on every stance of your topic. There is such a flood of "This is the BEST/WORST thing ever" that its fresh to just speak objectively and tell me both the good AND the bad.
I'm really enjoying these more comprehensive videos of yours. also that We Are Happy Landfill sample around 13:27 made my day. I love that song. Anyway keep up the good work.
Emp I gotta be real with you If you make that episode 2, YT will use it against you and others (great video though, I loved the Internet Historian mention)
I'm really curious on why the hue shift tricks the Content ID bots, I mean, isn't it as easy as just desaturating the victim video and comparing it to a desaturated version of the source material?
“The slave of the past have food and shelter because their master have interest in a somewhat functional workforce, the today working class don’t have this” Karl Marx
@SugaryHull first have to rise up artists and labels which work ( music, , movies) are illegaly uploaded on YouTube. Copyright was long long time before YouTube so copyright was here first. You all just think you can do whatever you Want , steal others property. Its not communism or soviet state . Its civilised world where ones property is ones property, not everyones. So yeah rose up and go on strike that you cant use others property anymore😂😂😂 feel free.
I just wanna say, your music taste is pretty solid. The meme theory video introduced me to both When The Levee Breaks and The Gates of Delirium, and two years on, seeing Karn Evil 9 here only confirmed my suspicions
16:07 There clearly should be a penalty for careless or fraudulent claimants abusing the system. After a specific number of false claims, the professed "copyright owners" ability to initiate revenue claims should first be suspended until they submit a detailed plan of action explaining why the false claims occurred and how they intend to improve their policies. Then, if it happens again, the company should be banned from YouTube immediately and indefinitely. If creator's have a duty of care to ensure that the material they;re using has either been cleared by its copyright owner or is permissible under fair use, then these companies should be held equally responsible for confirming that the material they are claiming ownership of is genuinely theirs to monetize BEFORE filing the claim.
Emp, I see you use lots of STAR_’s old thumbnails. I think a lot of the old disenfranchised tf2 fans would love a video on stars rise and fall. As you referenced in a previous video. It would mean lots
I immediately stepped into No Man's Land and decided that I was going to use my channel and YouTube as a full time hobby, and not a full time job on my first edited video. I do not regret my decision, for I am happy and satisfied by my newer content I am working on so far.
It's funny how youtubers are so quick to say "youtube is shit now" and "they only care about the money", but yet those same people continue to use the shit and of course their videos are monetized. Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
I have no idea how I'd never encountered your channel before today, but it's a damn travesty. You are good people, and I'm so glad this is my introduction to your work ^_^
Well, he used parody of a transformed song or something like that... parodies are fair use but not if you are a YouTuber. I think it would be easier if we just started to use CC or some other fair use oriented licences.
@Principleship Coleoid No it's even more ridiculous than that. He had a friend compose his intro and outro, and the people that pulled a copyright claim on him based it on the fact that some of the samples used to make the song were copyrighted under them. Not even instruments are safe.
My favourite technique is the one that Jim Sterling used to stop Nintendo from claiming when he used their gameplay. He'd play Chains of Love at the end of the video so that it'd get double claimed and no one company could claim the revenue.
Youtube should just say to copyright holders that they have to prove that someone is affirmatively breaking copyright in order to steal revenue (the point of copyright: to protect revenue on IP), instead of the current system that assumes all use of copyright content is to steal revenue.
Yeah. This is part of why I'm getting into law. They try this, it's gonna hurt them more than it hurts anyone else. Because THAT is the flavor of pain we need to stop this exploitation.
Strangely enough, I've had one of these situations before as an essentialy non existent channel over a steam hams edit before, where fox auto claimed my video even though it was an edit. however for some reason I decided to claim it with a valid reasoning and it got manually overturned by fox, so that was pretty weird.
Remember when reviewers were getting fucked left and right? While he’s pretty infamous, Mr Enter is a good example, almost all of his negative reviews of FOX shows were struck, but some of his positive reviews of their shows were fine, his negative reviews got struck but his positive reviews were good
What I think youtube should do for their copyright system is whoever is filling a claim for copyright has to type what there copying give the source and youtube sees if the claim is valid or not My opinion
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Daniel Jones2019-10-22 17:21:06 (edited 2019-10-22 17:21:31 )
I like the way that Yahtzee does reviews in Zero Punctuation. He has copy-paste characters that he makes slight edits on, and moves them around to describe what the game is about, along with his snarky British humor.
Well, that Nord VPN ad at the end didn't age well at all did it? Still, despite that I look forward to part 2. Hopefully it comes out soon, I know a Youtuber who could use it.
Mine is when I get claimed by a company that doesn't exist, for a song that doesn't exist! Then they go on to remove my video without me even putting it for review
My favorite is for a song that was made like 200 years ago, its uploaded to youtube and it gets claimed by a non existent company. This happened quite a bit for songs that were featured in Assassin's Creed Black Flag. People uploaded the songs to just enjoy them and non existent companies put claims on them or got the audio for the video removed.
Back in the summer of 2008, my older brother and his friends and I made a video to be uploaded to YouTube. My brothers friend decided to add in the song "Holiday" by Green Day when editing it. At one point, YouTube decided to mute the entire video all because of that one song, but a miracle happened. One day YouTube decided to unmute the video and it's still available to watch! I don't know if my brothers friend did something to unmute it or YouTube did something smart for once, cause his videos were not being monetized.
You're half right. It's more that they're more concerned with stopping Trump in 2020. So much so that they WILL burn this platform to the ground. Remember their own words. By. Any. Means. NECESSARY.
Daniel Bojkovski2019-09-23 02:21:52 (edited 2019-09-23 02:22:56 )
Whiplash Athetos I dont think youtube censors political content because they have an agenda to push. I think its just that political content is not ad friendly, proven by the fact that left wing and right wing channels both suffer
@Daniel Bojkovski Did you not read what I just wrote? By. Any. Means. NECESSARY! They don't care who gets hit, they don't care how far they have to go. Anything to stop Trump. Also, friendly reminder. If they try to Impeach Trump, which is looking like they're actually going to, it will fail. It'll be shot down by the Republican controlled Senate. You want to see REAL change in the world? Then don't let these monsters have their way.
2:30 Wait, was this the actually reason why this song popped up SOOOOOO MUCH in older YouTube videos? Did they need to replace most of the copyrighted song back then with this? 😮
I've had playlists of old music uploaded from 3rd party youtubers that loved their music. Around half the playlist was claimed, finding them again is impossible due to the niche Trance genre. The original artists don't even upload their music pasts itunes. Set sail to the bay
copyright law covers transformative uses of copyrighted material under the concept of derivative works. While agree to an extent that the interpretation of this concept probably could use some relaxing, it is there for a reason
Copyright on YouTube has gotten so awful the last couple of years, and all they care about is removing a check mark for a grey background, which only makes things worse
do keep in mind that i say half because the other half of whats going on is in fact illegal 8 SECONDS OF BLACK SILENCE TITLED READ DESCRIPTION GETTING COPYSTRIKED LEGIT HOW
What I find kind of funny is that there are still Youtube uploads featuring full un-edited songs and albums that have been on the site for at least a DECADE.
My football coach told me something similar to this situation: “EVERYONE HATES US ABD I FREAKING LOVE IT, WE’RE NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR THE REFEREE TO BAIL US OUT.”
Seriously, I remember watching some of your early shit back when I was like in 8th grade. Just shit head poops. Never would I have thought that you'd make some of the best fucking introspectives on a cornucopia of topics that many of us are passionate about. And do it so well. I'm fucking happy.
Dont upload part 2. you'll sell us out. Tell the enemy your tricks, and you seal your fate. Put the blade in the hand of those weaker then you, not those stronger.
Lmfao I lost it at, "WWE can suck a fart out of my ass"
Also, you have to remember, they probably put some mostly uneducated, yet still degree-d, button pusher to just push claim or block and that's their whole job. Which is sad.
But, I would like to point out, that if you were to sue/counter-sue, whatever, at the VERY LEAST, if you could prove Fair Use and that their copyright claim was erroneous, you could at least recoup your legal costs and revenue loss. BUT, if you could prove their claims were negligent (they just made them, didn't watch them, didn't have an actual legal advisor determine they could claim copyright infringement) you could also sue for an amount for damages. IF you could prove their claims were outright MALICIOUS (they have done this to just about every single entry ever on the ContentID list - which you'd have to subpoena to find out) you could sue for a lot more damages, and maybe, if you found the right ambulance chaser (you know the type of lawyer) successfully initiate a class action against them at which point they would likely try to mitigate their damages by blaming YT having a faulty system. So either you get more money than you lost back, and a black mark against said company and/or YT fixes their shit.
@Tomotato Yes. YouTube fair agree. Idiots speak YouTube unfair. Idiots like oldthinkers. Google correct like Minitrue. Google unever uncorrect. Google true, ever.
@The Potato Of 42 It was UMG who issued the strike not Deep Purple themselves. I realize now after re-reading my comment how it could come across like that though. My bad.
@Loonie The Moonie Thanks for clearing that up. UMG had gone full A-hole mode recently. Several places arebeing copystriked. I still remember how one guy hummed some random tune without knowing what it was and UMG copystriked him. Dear devil, this state of YouTube is worse than ever.
I think it's possible for you to have non copyrighted works in your video, but it BECOMES copyrighted. I remember ages and ages ago using a non copyrighted song for a video and years later i got a claim on it despite youtube suggesting it to me to use.
@Muammar Gibran I enjoy it for Roode and what they're doing with the Fiend. most of the others on roster are hit or miss for me. You do got some good talent like AJ and Bryan, to give credit where it's due though.
I uploaded a few covers and an original song to YouTube (as private videos) for an audition. One of the covers was instantly copyright claimed and deemed unmonetizable (but not taken down) and my cover of Superstition and the ORIGINAL SONG THAT I WROTE WITH MY BAND were taken down a few hours later. YouTube didn't provide me with the reason but I didn't violate guidelines so idk
@Iron Bear this is too true, people always talk about content creators leaving their entire empire and work they have behind from youtube to swap platforms to make youtube change, but nobody is ever going to do it. the difference between youtube and e.g a teachers strike is one is small scaled and can screw over the students and such, and the other is the most popular streaming site online.
uuum i meant a serious competitor, a more mainstream one, not that i dont know about newgrounds, but YouTube is full of normies, and only normies can beat normies when it comes to the consumption of media.
@Faker Well I'm afraid Newgrounds is the only shot you've got. They're the closest thing You-tube has to any real competition. I guess you could try Mumkey Jones website, but he'd have to host videos other then his own there.
@netizen Yes, so therefore we should avoid it instead of changing it for the better and stay in a platform whose daddy is in bed with the chinese government, and consistently becomes more hateful and hated of and by its creators and non prepubescent audiences.
@ChokeCJ Ah, you got me. I was bluffing, but I'd rather not pander to sites that openly promote the likes of Peterson, etc. I would use VidLii, but they don't have much storage, and from what I've gathered is hosted by themselves, which is why they crashed when NFKRZ made a video on them. I honestly haven't done much in terms of research on other sites.
Tom Hill GUYS, we need something like most famous youtubers who can do this to make content they want to like filthy frank, idubbz or any of those 2016 era type channels, less good image= less companies backing YouTube= less power. But this should be a last resort to punish youtube After all else fails.
@TheLetterL ᨆ that's a nuclear option, and even that won't work, as Emp said in his new YouTube geography video of MattWhatitis, Attacking YouTube's wallet is useless, Since even to this day, We don't know if YouTube is profitable. Google only kept YouTube because of it's influence. So it's just going to hurt creators and nothing else
@netizen sort of, but no at the same time. The political youtubers that were getting algorithmically throttled began to set up accounts on BitChute, and these channels were mainly on the right. There are some apolitical channels on the site such as Ricky Berwick though. We need more apolitical channels on bitchute for more variety though
People are too stupid to adopt another video streaming service. OSW Review and Botchamania were hit with copyright strikes relentlessly a few years ago and both moved to Vimeo for a few months. Both had their own websites with links to their content on Vimeo and hardly anyone knew about it. When they finally came back to YouTube everyone was wondering where they went and welcoming them back as if they'd been on a long hiatus from creating content.
Even longtime dedicated fans of content creators are too lazy and stupid to figure out how to move to another platform to continue watching the content of their favorite creators.
I think it's unfair to call them clowns, in the circus environment clowns are well respected professionals who have spent years perfecting their craft.
I have had great success fighting manual copyright claims. They do it hoping you wont fight back but at the end of the day they wont fight your 3 seconds of audio. Viacom is a different story not even YouTube itself will let you fight them
It's really sad seeing all these hardworking people make something so creative, well thought out, and entertaining, and then YouTube comes along and says "hey you! Fuck your dreams, ambitions, and creativity, we own you!"
For the example around 17:45 I think I can provide some insight into why media companies would strike a positive/free-promotion type video, even if only 1min of it is copyright material.
They have to ‘protect’ their intellectual property at every turn. Not doing so weakens their ownership of it. If they found your video but didn’t claim it, it opens the door for more egregious violations in the future.
Say they don’t strike your video, then the next day I upload 2minutes of copyrighted WWE material praising them. Then someone else uploads 5min, then 30min etc. Where does it stop for WEE?It has nothing to do with free promotion, positive reviews or money, it’s something they have to do to ensure they maintain ownership of ALL their intellectual property (clips, matches, show names, wrestlers, gimmicks, belts, catch phrases etc.) if they implicitly say ‘that EmpLemon video is fine’ then in essence, they are saying ‘we’re okay with some infringement’ and that’s just a can of worms no media company wants to get into. Your comment about media companies being robotic is actually quite accurate.
Something i think you forget is precedent. if one small time youtuber wins in a case like this every following legal clame become streamlined and the money required to win would become less with every defeat. for exaple if you use 10% of a video for movie reviewing purposes and you win anyone else who does the same will be able to just point at it and say thats what they were doing.
I agree with almost all of the points in the video, but the reason WWE might have blocked your vid is because it sets a precedent for other people to use it, positive or otherwise.
@pharder1234 Copyright needs to be abolished and STAY abolished. It was never about artists rights in the first place anyway (it was always a sneaky censorship tool) and at best it only protected the shittiest of publishers who would fuck the artists (that the copyright was supposedly made for) over relentlessly with. This is also ignoring that copyright (and patents) lets someone who did something decades ago collect money on said work that they've often done no work on since.
@Bobby snoopy Nooperson the third they had a security breach a couple of weeks ago and pretty much the information of everyone who used their service got in the hands of the hacker(s) that made the attack.
A few years ago, I got my entire channel deleted for uploading a 30 second video with a clip of a new Drake song, but the audio was 8 kbps. 8 FUCKING KBPS. Do you know what that sounds like? Thats almost indistinguishable. It was for a stupid meme, and I lost everything. No explanation, just there one day, and then gone the next. No way of recovery, that I knew of. Had almost 1,000 subs after 6 years, and then nothing, gone forever. So yeah, FUCK these music companies and their automated systems.
You know they can just copyright claim literally silence, right? Or stuff that remotely sounds like instruments. They can still claim your 100% original videos.
copyright claim it? yea, getting a ''copyright deadlock'' where a bunch of ppl fight over the same video and no one gets anything is easy, getting the monetisation means having a claims company registered with youtube
youtube pooper here: got my most popular video (at the time) taken down due to apparently taking watch time from official mr bean content, despite being only 3 minutes long and consisting mostly of explosions. (it was also completely un-monetised due to my channel size at the time, i was making nothing)
I discovered last week that my twelve second TF2 video has been copyright claimed for using the 'Meet the medic' theme. Not that it bothers me, its just the fact that these people are so desperate for money, they will try and claim a video that has less than ten views.
when i look at my old liked videos and reach ~2014 about 90% are either deleted or private. everything on youtube has been downhill since then. unfortunately their competitors are constantly being taken down as well
In theory, yes. But you need to have solid fucking proof to back up such a claim. In a lot of cases the defender ( youtube ) will probly stall it out long enough untill you run out of money to pay the lawyer and then you pull out thus ending the case.
5:57 there is no such thing as guaranteed safe. If you wrote and performed a song yourself you can still get matched with some other song and get it taken down or demonetized.
However often even independent 2D animators on YouTube rely on external sound effects for their original content even though they might create their own OST for their original short film animations! Also a lot of channels similar to Kazukrat actually loose money through their videos because of the ad revenue from views not making enough to fully cover the production costs so that’s why they are often dependent on donations and crowd funding through sites like Patron to keep afloat as businesses they can make a living off! :)
I think you missed an important point about copyright and poops;
Posting a full film on YouTube is for people who haven’t seen it yet and taking away a potential audience member. Poops use the film that a viewer has already seen to poke fun at something. The poop assumes you’ve already seen it, isn’t replacing the film and is being used for something the potential audience member isn’t going to find in the original.
When the US morphed in to a corporate oligarchy, copyright went from a shield to protect creators from corporate greed, in to a weapon used by corporations to shut down creators. Because remember folks, corporations hate capitalism because it means they actually have to invest in creativity and put effort in to their work.
Insert Obi-Wan clip saying "Now you have become the very thing you swore to destroy."
We gotta find a way so that youtubers can safely copyright claim their own videos and take all ad revenue from their own video. Thats the real metagame
And this is why it's just easier to make money through patreon or merch sales, in turn you give something back while being able to be financially stable
YouTubers: Make a good review about a specific product, telling people why they should buy it, giving money to the company. Company: s i l e n c e t h o t
*Emp: Talks about copyright abuse. Also Emp: Uses "Beneath the mask" from Persona. Every Persona/MegaTen YouTuber: "May Atlus have mercy on your soul."
Can someone please start creating other platforms to rival youtube? It doesnt have to be an overnight success. Just survive long enough to grow a presence to give youtube the smallest bit of competition. Thats the literal only way this problem will ever get addressed.
You're one of few YouTubers I can honestly say I can fully watch the videos of without getting bored within a few minutes. I don't even have to care much about the subject in manner because your videos are always highly enjoyable and I look forward to each upload.
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Daniel Bojkovski2019-09-23 02:18:12 (edited 2019-09-23 02:18:30 )
Doesnt the broken copyright system have something to do with Youtube wanting to keep Vevo?
I used to save/upload music I had produced back while I was in high-school (34 now, like 30ish at the time of all this) and it was a way for me to archive it in case of hardware / data failure. Well one day, I had noticed that one of the tracks had a DMCA strike on it. I filed an appeal as this random guy was claiming that I was stealing his music/IP. I wrote YT back explaining my position, that the music was 10+ years old and that I could prove it by the creation date / file time stamp. They requested the files and such, verified on their own and unlocked the DMCA after sending me a determination letter.
I was honestly shocked at it all but was very thankful that YT sided with me, I now host the music at SoundCloud but regardless, that was sketchy and the guys stuff was like from 2014 when I had produced this stuff as far back as 2002!
14:01 that’s actually a Italian dude who lied about his heritage.
And the commercial itself was used for big plastic bottle companies to try and blame us for the plastic bottle problem we have today, and it worked too well. Edit: spelling mistakes, on mobile sorry
You can make a song on a different account, register it to the content ID system, and use it in a video on your main account, then claim your video with your alt account to get monetized without having to appeal to YouTube's age appropriate monetization system.
AND HERE WE ARE IN 2021 TALKING ABOUT FAIR USE - based on the recent REMOVAL of the dislike number AND the like to dislike ratio bar.....FUCK OFF YT!!!
I have been saying the same opinion about copyright all over YouTube (you probably have seen one of my comments) but i will repeated it for a 54th time, copyright isn't about protecting original authors anymore (or for the last 50 years) is about stealing money and ideas from other similar ideas, censure public opinions and to stably a legal monopoly
I was waiting for you to make an AVGN reference. You can't have all these throwbacks to the glory days in your videos without mentioning James and what he did for the reviewing medium.
I spent 2 months on a half hour long The Incredibles YTP, spent ALL DAY uploading the bitch, only for Youtube to tell me fug no at the last second. I can't even upload the type of video this site was once known for!
I know that one day, one of these companies are going to fuck up and try to steal from the wrong YouTuber and get sued HARD. But thats just in my dreams
I had an unlisted video with no sound from drone footage I took as a test, and it got taken down by Sony for copy write. Nothing I could do they just closed the dispute.
I use AlgoMusic for all my copyright avoiding needs. My YouTube page is now a dumping ground for 6 to 10 second long shitposts and randomly generated noises made into randomly generated music. I also have a filter and overlay if I ever have to display something that's copyrighted (a WIP), and if I were to ever stream on this platform again, I have to train myself to never say the name of a copyrighted work, or just not use a mic at all.
I may seem a bit over the top about it, but I had to stop playing music at all on streams due to the Content ID system flagging my every video. Ironically, my YTP channel hasn't been bombed nearly as hard, but that's because maybe the edits are too frantic to be fully detected.
Are you at all surprised that a link with completely nonsensical basis is a Rickroll, Absolutely Not a Russian Dictator? SMH some people still not on the guard for Rolls.
Do you all remember back in the day when YouTube used to be what it is until from October 2012 onward it has became a shell of it's former self. The system is on drugs and we are the ones who are stuck with it as there are no other website to replace it's popularity.
The reason why I have stopped uploading videos from Autumn 2016 is because I have been realising more about the website and how much it has changed over the years. I have returned with a new channel but only to make people happy and not YouTube by it's self because the website now is completely dejective, disdainful, stingy and doesn't give a shit of who ever is on the website unless if it's someone that plays movies or TV episodes that are copyrighted and YouTube is like best friends to Nickelodeon or other channels that has became a shell of there own former self like this fractured, trainwreck environment. Nobody ever asked for YouTube in the first place back in the 2000s only to make the world a worser place that it has become over the last 10 or 15 years.
I feel sorry for people who try their very hardest to get an audience. But at least having an audience is more achievable and should be more important than trying to be the most popular channel on this broken website.
It would be nice if somethings can go back to the good old days but that'll never happen because YouTube and whatever executive doesn't give a shit 1 bit. At least you got lots of subscribers and viewers Emperorlemon.
You can't complain about the copyright system without a plan of action to either solve the system or at least try to work with it to the best of your ability. YouTube is a unique platform with hours of content being uploaded every few seconds. You have to recognize that nobody will care if you get claimed or even striked down. I had a completely original song get taken down because a company wanted to block it for another strike which already expired.
Should be super simple. You must watch the video fully to claim a video. Sure, there are still ways around it. Sure, someone is going to upload 10 of the 10 hour videos that are just like "Everytime there is a letter E the movie repeated" things. And yes, someone will turn on the video, let it play, and walk away until it's done, just to strike it without context. But it would be better than the system we have.
I have to tell you, Japan's copyright law is the most repressive, even more than the EU's. Anti file sharing tools are too powerful, the law doesn't give you a non-profit defense (which is enforced in Switzerland, Spain, and Poland), the government refers copyright as a criminal offense, you face 10 years in prison (which is absolutely horrible), it is easy for the authorities to spy you on YouTube (it's worse than getting your channel terminated), and Japan-based copyright organizations could even sue you for criticizing their actions!
Yep. The copyright system is garbage. Yesterday, one of my older videos got blocked in the UK for using literally 10 seconds of a Pendulum song. 10 seconds.
I swear there used to be a limit on this shit, but now? Nope.
The people "manually reviewing" aren't what you think they are. They are reading reports from the robots and just maybe having a look at the video before clicking yes or no.
I noticed the song near the end of the video was a remix of a Gorillaz song. That is very clever and just proves your point even more. Great video my dude.
I'm positive that the Ice Mountain song that EmpLemon is currently utilizing in any of his videos is getting old. Personally, it would help if we have a more diverse soundtrack in Emp's videos.
How do you know that isn't in the works? I mean, it would be one hell of a long play (especially if it were unabridged), but they are scummy enough to try that.
say what you want about other countries they at least are upfront with their censorship and don't rely on proxies copyright just strangles everybody in the end
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Vir Rob2019-10-14 05:24:55 (edited 2019-10-14 05:28:59 )
So, every kind of non-Youtube company is now trying to nuke Youtubers. Sweet.
Holy shit. 1 year since the video was released and nothing's changed, if not worsened. I don't make content of my own but seeing channels I follow getting copyrighted by the most absurd thing really makes me feel a bit sad and angry for them, because they not only dedicate a lot of their time and effort into creating those videos but also they often have to spend time dealing with nonsense bullshit.
@Sam MaxGoof I'd love to too, but there's a risk of these companies refusing to publish anything on YT and just push everything on shitty alternatives instead.
@Drew Insur That group called Uniao brasileira do editoras do musica, those thug bastards claims ID every song that is on YouTube, even copyright videogame music like Final Fantasy, which is already property of another music company, so those disgusting bastard straight up stole the music. I'm even thinking that this editorial doesn't exist at all.
This video is inaccurate, the only copyright claim I've ever received was on a 3 second video of literally nothing. I got a strike and everything, hellsite.
Was your clip of WWE content fair use? If so, that would have been a much stronger argument to present. If not, there's really no grounds for complaint. Your personal opinion that your use of the copyrighted work was beneficial to the rights holder carries no weight if they disagree.
If content ID can detect where the copyrighted content starts and ends, why don't they just calculate what percentage of the content is copyrighted material, and take that percentage of your video earnings? Seems pretty trivial to implement, and fair for both parties.. Well, too fair for the little guy.
I have a problem with this. My channel, (not this one im posting with) is about to come out with a long serious of many videos in which I'm translating foreign language music into English. Do the creators care? No. Do they care they're breaking the law? No. Do they care they'd get more advertising if they just left off? No. Are they humans deserving of human rights? pfffffffffffff. No, of course not!
What about the stuff that jim sterling used to do? Use all the copyrights so when multiple companies claim the revenue, no one gets the money, because it can't be split between multiple claimants. Does that still work?
With so much copyright claim, I feel proud that I am gonna watch now The Mandalorian's episode 3 illegaly downloaded trough The Pirate Bay website. Bye.
There's a "group"(?) called "The Orchard Music" that have copyright claimed a few songs that have nothing to do with them, and are essentially public domain because they were never released in a for-profit, or label manner. Watch out.
i once had an independent wrestling promotion copyright strike a music video i made out of one of the matches they booked. Not a major promotion like WWE, but a MINOR LEAGUE INDY PROMOTION. I traded emails back and forth with them saying that how it benefited them and they just said "well we'd rather do it ourselves." They might as well have said "thanks for buying our show, but fuck you." so it's not just a problem with big corporate entities.
14:16 “the transformers”, I believed that ytpmv (youtube poop music videos) are on there. I really hope it is less at risk than regular ytp of recent movies since some of them are quite good.
@Erik-Hans Eisenheber It's a reference to how the characters are given vastly different colors on their outfits for certain scenes in the anime as well as most promotional drawings and album covers for the manga.
No good. Viz Media owns the rights to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure in the U.S and they're stingy with copyright as they took down Sailor Moon Reanimated twice. You might get your video mistaken for a JoJo clip.
I hope we get an alternative to YouTube that's not cancer. That way we can go over there. If they wanted to do this right they would have someone at YouTube look at the claim for you either before or when appealing. They're just lazy and don't want to hire people to do it.
I watched part 2 before this because this didn't show up in my notifications even though I have your channel set to send all notifications to me. I dislike YouTube so much.
Fair use (as you said in the video at 11:05) is a DEFENSE. You can only use it when a copyright claim has happened. It's the same for stuff off youtube as well. You can't use "It's fair use" before a copyright claim happened.
when i did youtube i noticed that if you use more than like 15 secs of copyright stuff you'll get copyright claimed thats why i used to cut copyright stuff around 10 or less secs
i hope everyone being demonitized makes a split happen. those who are passionate will keep making videos, maybe allow fans to donate directly. those who just want money will perish or leave for a shitty paid platform
Can a collective group organize against a single entity to appeal against an unlawful claim? "We 10,000+ (or so) youtubers who have been victims of evident unlawful copyright claims vote against [COMPANY] so that they are penalized and have their copyright infringement accusation rights removed for the following year"? Sounds weird but something along the lines of that. There HAS to be something we can all do together that at least serves as disciplinary action against an entire company for irresponsible using their power.
General knowledge: mumbos case for copyright strike, was technically not mumbo's or YouTube's fault as the music he used was copyrighted and the person who gave permission to mumbo didn't actually have permission to do that and therefore Mumbo was using copyrighted music
Why don't people just upload a video completely composed of the raw material (footage/music) they intend to use in a real video to test the Content ID system and use only half of the material that gets detected by the system as copyrighted? If it gets marked when raw, it could possibly be marked when edited, too. That way, you can control how much of your revenue is yours and how much time you spend editing a video.
Aew has been hitting just about every yt creator that mentions them with a copyright claim...they even accidentally struck one of there own videos..not to mention dynamite just straight sucks
Just like most people, I'm not really one to spend the time to write a comment on a video--I consume the content I decide is worth my time and I get on with my life. But you've compelled me to comment here, if only in some vain attempt to reach a creator that has managed to leave a bigger impact on me in the meager handful of days I've been perusing your channel than most I've come to watch regularly on this site for the past several years of my life.
While I haven't dug into every single video and every single story on this channel, its content (particularly the more contemporary commentary videos) has presented me with such a compelling and thoroughly internally consistent experience as a new viewer that I just have to follow it up myself somehow. The downward spiral has claimed another victim, and it's been a hell of ride so far. Especially dipping my toes into your old poops, since I'm a huge fan of YTPs (Captain Duckturd is my current favorite YTPer, can't wait for new stuff from him). I'm a bit saddened that you've essentially closed the book on your YTP antics, but that's pretty understandable given all the shit that went flying after a while when you did.
What I really wanted to talk about, though, is the strange position you hold in the YouTube landscape and the shockingly unique personality that you've become on this site. The first video to sneak me into this channel was, unsurprisingly, your newest one: this one. I watched it the day it came out, and the memes you invoked in it intrigued me to say the least. I knew there was more to the downward spiral, your editing style, and visual source material. It all comes together to create something capable of causing culture shock, honestly. That includes the stellar music choice for all of the videos I've watched so far.
You've been effectively sitting out of this game called YouTube for years now, and it's given you and, by extension, your viewers an incredibly interesting perspective on the events that came and went over these past years on YouTube. You've had the opportunity to experience, spectate, and dissect the many baffling things that have gripped this site and its users. Seeing the events that I saw from afar as what's best described as a YouTube lurker, I was totally disconnected and unable to really grasp their contexts and finer nuances. The semi-jaded, cynical lens that your channel expresses itself through is something entirely new to me. And that combined with your eagerness to interact with others and to operate constructively despite the coarse language you tend to employ was frankly enough to force my hand in hitting the un-unsubscribe button.
I'm looking forward to your upcoming videos, and the continuation of the epic saga of the downward spiral.
Speaking of aew, they had the same problem wwe had when claiming videos, turns out both systems are automated and when a large YouTube created actually reached out to aew, they redid the system and stoped claiming all the videos they had falsely flagged..wwe has not done the same
Hey Emp, will we ever see a return of Minute Memes? I'm not demanding content more often, just wondering if you've abandoned the project in favor of these more large scale edits instead.
You ever think that youtube allows a select group to make large amounts of money as a way to convince creators to make content that will be claimed "for no reason" by the very companies andorganizations that make youtube its money
Nah. The Bootleggers are called the Pirates. Pirating is illegally downloading something. Bootlegging is making their own something with a copyrighted thing without the owner of the copyrighted thing's permission.
I like how this struggle between good and evil forces content creators to push the boundaries. They'll evolve and survive. The only downside is that old videos might dissapear entirely when we die. Like two armies fighting in historic ruins only to have the ruins completely destroyed. Gone forever.
Nobody: Emplemon:"I'm Tired of these phony motherfucking copyright claims on this motherfucking website!"
Gets demonitized by New Line Cinema for using a transformative line of dialogue that they shouldn't even be able to strike due to legal reasons but Youtube still get money so they dont care.
Jeorge Sparve is your guy, my dude. He and his union are suing YouTube for this and it's due to take place on October 22nd. Look at his channel for details. He's the Slingshot channel.
If you do a rearrangement of a song its completely fine. I have some on my channel and they are 100% legally owned by me, even tho their is some music from Zelda for example. (feel free to use them as u wish, crediting me would be great)
I think Youtube should just stop giving corporations the option to make money of someones video entirely. The only reason why coypright claims are such an issue is that at the moment is because corporations have absolutely no incentive not to copyright claim videos. With trailer reactions for example, production studios simply get the best deal possible when claiming fraudulently: free advertising for their product AND free money from the videos.
I think that if they didn't have the option to make money off of these, they would just leave the videos up because deep down they really don't care about the infringement and understand the videos are free advertising. It's just that they're leaving money on the table if they don't claim the video.
And maybe at first we'd see an increase in videos getting blocked, but if there's no money in it, why would a company spend thousands of dollars trying to remove content that is based in fair use and on top of that passively benefiting them? Additionally to this system, Youtube should allow Youtubers to edit out the copyrighted material (it was in the news a while ago that this is possible for clips under a certain length, but I don't know how this turned out) and reupload and remonetize the video.
In my opinion Youtubers should also get some sort of protection from copyright claims at a certain subscriber milestone (somewhere in the range of 200,000-500,000 subs maybe). At this point the Youtuber is expected to be a legit content creator who's livelihood likely depends on his channel, and it should become impossible to take down their videos from then on. If a company still takes issue with a certain video, they'd have to fill out a form or something (it should be as annoying a process as possible) and send it to the youtuber. They then get to decide themselves if they want to edit the content out or want to dismiss the claim. If the company still thinks they're in the right, Youtube themselves should have someone look at the video and determine if the video needs to be taken down.
That last thing is very unlikely, because Youtube (understandably) doesn't want any responsibility regarding copyright. It would open them up to lawsuits after all. Still, I see no reason why they can't just stop giving companies the ability to make money off of someone else's work.
Also, ads should just have a small disclaimer on them saying something like ''this ad is based on your preferences and was put here by an algorithm''. ''It is not an endorsement of the content/creator you're about to watch''. Voila, now every video can be monitized again, because companies wouldn't have to worry about appearing in front of controversial content! It would be the end of demonitization! I'm a genius!
Can we get... hundreds upon thousands of youtubers to rise up and sue these companies for being little... hm. if i curse then the video could get demonetized. You get what I mean. Everyone should band together and take down the companies holding youtubers back. Like the Area 51 raid, but people would actually do stuff.
Where do you categorize the guy, that streamed a pay tv boxing match, on Twitch, while pretending with a controller in his hand, to play the boxing game?
If you're not aiming to be supported by ads, try the Copyright Deadlock! Infringe on as much copyright from as many different sources as you want because if two or more copyright holders try to claim one video no one gets the money! Companies dont even check to see if they claimed something so it'll just be deadlocked forever. So if that sounds great, do it, and thank God for Jim Sterling
YTPs pretty much always go directly in the fire, unfortunately unless they’re using the most obscure of sources. I’m not a youtuber by any stretch of the imagination, but even my shitty YTPs are blocked in more countries than Orwell’s 1984 is (thanks, Vince MacMahon....)
Im waiting for the year when an billionaire super skilled advocate gets his terraria lets play claimed and he uses all media companys for a trillion dollars and they make a deal with him promising not to claim any fair use or transformative video
Copyright is the lifetime of the author plus 70 years. The Simpsons came out in the late 80s(far less than 70 years ago) and last I checked, most all of its creators were still around, so I severely doubt that claim
i havent made a video in one year i still get claims every few weeks, sometimes claiming nothing but my Voice. So i will make a song using nothing but static mic noise and then im going to claim EVERYTHING
Remember when the recommended videos on the right would actually show more videos related to the video you just watched? Instead of showing you your entire Recommended section from the front page like it does now. Those were good times. Times when I could actually find new videos.
Am I crazy, or was this video uploaded a while before September 21 2019 (which is what the description lists the upload date as)? Did EmpLemon take it down or make it private, and then put it back up?
You raised such an interesting point that I hadn't even considered. So many people got into youtube, me included, so we could watch shows for free. It brought back so many memories of 'Naruto episode 10 - part 1/5' and there was always one of the parts always missing
@Plaguis If you're a kid who doesn't have money and doesn't know much about the internet other than cool math games and YouTube, how would you watch shows?
I feel like requiring the audience to be familiar with the material isn't a crutch for music review, considering the nature of the genre. It'd be pretty ridiculous to demand that the person reviewing something also deliver the thing they're reviewing.
Copyright claims being as strict as they are and not allowing for the completely legal criticism of the work can be obnoxious for a plethora of reasons, but the whole argument of Fantano's reviews "lacking context" and being "dependant on the popularity" only makes sense in a vaccum where people aren't looking to listen to any new music.
I remember when full movies were set at like 1.25 speed to trick the bot and the person in the description told you to set the video to play at 0.75 speed
I remember it as late as 2016 because that's how our high school english class watched "a streetcar named desire" movie. the 1.25 speed youtube rip was higher quality than the teacher's official DVD
This "i edited (cartoon) because (insert reason)" is getting out of hand. These normies are trying to normalize ytps (moat of the time they arent even good "edits" either"
We really need to address this problem because im getting sick and tired of this because i dont want something I loved as a child ruined
12:46 "And many of you watching now are only here because you were first introduced to this site by binging on licensed TV clips."
I don't know about that. I think the very first video I watched on YouTube was a Mortal Kombat Fatality compilation video back in 2005. This was when Google Video was still around and I would watch most of the seasons of Red vs Blue on it.
we're sorry, your video has been handed over to: "YouTube" as all revenue will go to them, this is due to the fact that you uploaded this on "YouTube" :/
Claimant: Hey! That's mine! Creator: Fine! Own my hot piece of garbage! Hope you can stand the smell! Claimant: On second thought, this should be thrown away... Creator: Then give it back. Why'd you take it in the first place? Claimant: Cause we're greedy.
WWE either hired a third party company, or they don't see any videos with their content as beneficial - they want everyone going to them for their content, no matter how small the part they want to see is.
i hope everyone being demonitized makes a split happen. those who are passionate will keep making videos, maybe allow fans to donate directly. those who just want money will perish or leave for a shitty paid platform
Not just Youtube, Google has always been like this. Not only does it disregard fair use on youtube, they tend to think themselves above the law by treating DMCA laws in a very one side (and likely deliberate) way. In that they will comply with DMCA notices with haste, as they are obligated to do, but tend to ignore or decide not to act on counter-DMCA notices (which is strange, seeing as major media companies can file these too). In fact, they literally responded to a counter-DMCA notice of a website I'm using with "we have decided not to respond" which is absolutely not legal.
Also not to mention the bogus corporations that will copyright claim what legitimately isn't theirs BUT it's on content that's been live for around 6+ years. That means people have been sent to scout out for potential victims to YouTube's rubbish system in the hopes of earning some quick revenue. By the Get-Rich-Quick God is it profitable too.
I'm actually conflicted on Content ID, on one hand, it's one of the only ways a person like myself with the word "Bastard" in their fucking channel title could ever hope to make money from their own videos. On the other hand, it basically gives massive companies free reign to fuck people over and shuts anyone else out of using it unless they become a big company.
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A person2021-01-12 05:01:44 (edited 2021-01-12 14:32:22 )
According to these big corporations fair use doesn’t exist
Don't forget this: One of Vinny's VoDs was Copyright Claimed FOR CRICKET SOUNDS https://youtu.be/IoEhBCivhW4?t=4807 Thankfully it doesn't exist anymore
Something I've slowly been realizing is that the internet has, ironically, made it more likely than ever that noteworthy media vanishes forever.
Original Youtube content is remarkably ephemeral, between copyright claims of varying bogusness and the occasional creator breakdown followed by mass deletion of videos.
Streaming services for TV and movies are constantly swapping who owns the rights to what, while driving down the demand for physical releases, meaning something could very easily vanish off the net and not have a physical version anywhere.
And the general attitudes of digital media companies does not leave me with any faith that if, say, that book I just bought on Kindle were to get wiped from their servers in a freak accident, that Amazon would do anything to get it back or compensate me.
I've started to become a media hoarder. Do I wanna watch a TV show? I'll buy the DVD or Blu-Ray, and if I can't I'll pirate it and keep it on a hard drive, safe and sound where no one can go "Netflix has the rights. No wait, Hulu has the rights. No wait, Amazon has the rights." I don't use Spotify, I purchase Mp3s from Google Play and iTunes, and keep them on SD cards, because I no longer have faith that the music I like will be there tomorrow.
I'm seriously worried that one day, 30 years from now, I won't be able to enjoy the media I like now, even though it's no problem for me to go out and buy a copy of basically anything major from 30 years ago now.
You too huh? I fear the day when we will no longer be able to own music. Instead just permission to play it. Scary eh? I've been saving up mp3 and cds too. Need to get a hard drive soon.
@Nel Zelpher I mean, Mp3 files are a fairly safe bet. You can just copy them onto spare hard drives, SD cards, flash drives, etc. A 64gb flash drive will run like $15 USD, and can hold enough music that you could play music nonstop for a week and never repeat a song. You can make a spare copy, keep it in a storage locker or at a family member's house or something, and have a backup. And since it's standardized computer file with a non-proprietary format, it should still work on any computer made after the early 2000s. Assuming you'll live a full life and die sometime in the 2090s, you'll still be able to either play Mp3s on whatever sort of computer we use then, or be able to get a second or third year computer science student to program an Mp3 player in exchange for a case of beer.
If you're a part of the very small crowd who can, in fact, tell the difference between an Mp3 and high quality vinyl records, there are other computer formats. Look into lossless audio compression. Downside is that lossless formats require a lot more space.
After that, well, it gets tricky. CDs are easy to burn with a computer with a CD drive, but are easy to scratch up. Cassette tapes are bulky and wear out with enough use. Not to mention, tape decks aren't mass-produced like they used to be, and have a lot of moving parts that will eventually break. Vinyl records are even bulkier than cassettes, can get scratched, and require specialized equipment to copy.
Oh, that’s where the Spongbob Saw parodies came from. YouTube poop-ers has scarred me in my mid to late childhood.
An 2D slide show of drawings of spongebob, Patrick and two random guys with the ending similar to the first saw movie, just with Patrick slicing his neck open with a knife.
And I used to wonder how I got fucked up. (Sarcasm)
If you are trying to monetize your videos then you are pretty much going to get canned if it has someone elses content its been in the laws for a long time if you dont monetize the videos they just dont really do anything you are protected under fair use laws
I disagree that some YouTubers would be better using copyrighted stuff. I see when people use copyrighted outside of reviews as cheap and just not good at art themselves and have to steal it.
There are ways to do some gaming content as an example while being "Mr.Clean". The way I do it is by strictly recording all of my own gameplay and in-game soundtracks myself and using that material alone. Instead of a song in the backround - well it's still a song but just the in-game soundtrack.
Some games that you can pull this off easily - FoRtNiTe, upcoming Crab Champions or CSGO (record an music kit). With those three, thanks to the wide selection of songs (and great ones may I add) so you can use different tracks for different videos AND all 3 allow unique gameplay, due to they're built like that.
Mr Clean and Cold Turkey aren't really that safe. Even if you make your own content, someone could parody or remix that content, then file a false claim against you which you may have to go to court to resolve.
You probably wont read this but I recently had my YouTube channel of 200 subs terminated. I tried to get the termination appealed but nothing has happened so far. I have no evidence to back up my innocence. What would you suggest?
The long and short of it: YouTube is for corporate entities and people who (literally) sell their dignity to make mindless, repetitive content that makes a lot of money.
some dumb things ive seen happen with youtubes copyright system include guy 1 gets permission from guy 2 to use their music, still gets claimed guy 3 uploads 10 seconds of complete black (title was "read description") gets claimed by guy 4 since their song has a part with no sound guy 5 has the power to (luckily didnt use it) claim basically any video with the japanese intro cutscene of ocarina of time guy 6 gets striked by wbm when he used music from mario guy 7 gets striked by guy 8 because of differing political opinions guy 9 gets claimed by sony for uploading his own music guy 10 gets claimed 30 times by sony in the span of less than a minute for using nothing guy 11 gets striked for using audio that was used by guy 12 in a remix 10 months later guy 12 gets ALL his videos claimed by disney when he as far as i know has never done anything at all related to disney and finally guy 13 gets his channel taken down after 4 years for using 2 seconds of a clip in one video thanks disney again
did i mention that animal rights groups are going after google for using monkeys to do work because people were saying their bots are horrible and so they use monkeys instead for certain things which is where the "highly trained monkeys" message comes from so this whole time they have been using monkeys for most of the work
I cannot fathom how so many Youtubers are still so Capitalist, even after all the crap Capitalism does to them. Copyright abuse isn't a bug of the system; it's a feature.
I'm finding it harder and harder to stay on youtube. Not as a creator, but just as a viewer. A lot of my fav youtubers have been moving off of YouTube onto private websights. and I fully support them. Most requir e me to pay like 3 bucks a month, but I'm totally fine supporting them that way.
I used to make music. Terrible music, albeit, but it was music I made. Don't think I ever made a dime off it, and I think I had it up for something like 4-5 years or so, even after the point where I was no longer proud of it.
But I'll be damned if I didn't dispute the copyright claim the bitch that claimed my song as their own. I must have gotten lucky or something since my dispute was upheld. But yeah, this was probably about 2013 or so, and the fact that it's happening on bigger creators who make actually good music... I couldn't even imagine being in that situation. I'd lose my shit.
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Beta Ray Tasty2019-09-21 18:40:26 (edited 2019-09-21 18:41:17 )
I remember doing a musical cover of a Chrono Trigger song a few years ago.
I just got NordVPN 3 years at 70% off literally 2 weeks ago with no affiliate code or anything like that.... its just a sale they're having I got 3 years for like 3.50 a month
>emplemon uploads >my day is instantly better Edit: I love how my low effort comment gets 59 likes but my historical analysis mini essay on the state of YouTube gets 1, but im not complaining, thanks mates
Are you talking about another comment you left or a video essay? Bc in my experience people usually don't read long comments, long comments will sometimes be top comment, but they're just one essay out of hundreds. If you make that into a video or podcast, you're way more likely to get a response
Ecrivon Lunyx it was a comment, and you’re not wrong, I noticed that trend to, that was kinda my point by saying that, I just find it funny I guess. (Also I don’t have means of making it a podcast or video or anything)
11:23 Actually tho go watch MauLer. He's a really good channel and makes extensive high-quality uploads. He deserves to be more popular-just like EmpLemon here.
Honestly, this is why YouTubers need to form a legal defense collective. Something like an insurance fund for legal fees, where you buy in for legal protection from greedy and overzealous media conglomerates infringing on all of our rights. The music reviewer who can't play clips of something that he should be legally entitled to use is one of the most heartbreaking and disgusting things I've ever seen. The government isn't going to change any of these laws, I think it's time to start lawyering up and suing some of these companies into compliance with, you know, the fucking explicit letter of the law. I'm so sick of this myth that's been spread around that fair use is this murky and ill defined thing, when in many cases it just simply isn't I'll defined at all. Education and critique are very, very explicitly protected parts of free speech, but these are always the aspects that the misinformation floating around always tries to claim is poorly tested in court, when this is just not true. Criticism, especially, is one of the most consistently upheld aspects of fair use in American copyright law, since attempting to use the courts in a way that even kind of smells like an attempt to censor detracting speech is generally met with open scorn by judges and there are oodles of examples of companies and people having their cases dismissed with prejudice and getting the entire bookcase hucked through their heads for trying it.
Side note: I love it when judges get really fired up and shred someone who deserves it to pieces. I think it's just a satisfying mix of righteous anger being doled out by someone who's probably the smartest person in the room and who also has a lot of power and authority and you're not the one being hit by the death laser. It's like the grown up version of watching the teacher yell at that kid who you just fucking hate when they really deserve it (double fun if you were doing the exact same thing but just narrowly avoided being seen doing it.)
The Kurzgesagt example though is actually an example where not using any copyrighted content actually improved the content. You can always spot a Kurzgesagt video on the music alone, and having the ability to just compose your own music allows you to create a song for a specific purpose, which can significantly improve the effect it has. And having it to where you can also adjust the animation to the music you made can give an extremely good impression. It also makes your videos extremely unique, because there is quite literally no other channel with the same exact music and animation. All of these good qualities are best shown in my favorite Kurzgesagt video "the limits of humanity"
But the main issue is that even though it can be beneficial for large channels with several million subscribers like Kurzgesagt, smaller channels simply do not have the assets to achieve this. They dont have teams of animators, researchers, directors, artist, and composers. This is also shown by the fact that even though the Kurzgesagt team has quite a few people and gets ton of professional help, they only upload once every couple weeks. And small channels simply cant do that unless they are corporately funded.
Hey emp, I was in the ytp game back in the day and remember when you were small time, my account was squidwong really small. Remember cartoonlpver98? Whatever happened to that guy
Emplemon, the ftc are making it where videos that appeal to children cannot be seeable, isn't recommended or suggested and hits you with a $42,000 fine, per video.
You're not going to get legal copyright problems with animation or music unless you really go out of your way to copy something lol It needs to have a pretty obvious likeness to get any kind of legal grounds... They'd even get a load of crap to deal with...
"If you send a cease-and-desist letter to an infringer, there is a risk that the infringer may file a lawsuit in the infringer’s jurisdiction naming you as a defendant and seeking a declaratory judgment that your copyright is invalid. One recent court decision found that the sending of a single cease-and-desist letter into the state was enough to subject the defendant to personal jurisdiction in that state.
If you send a DMCA takedown notice that is both false and meant in bad faith (such as to harass, or doesn’t state a real claim), you have committed perjury. Though unlikely, if the party you sent the takedown notice to decided to pursue this in court, you could face all of the consequences that your state imposes on people who lie in court.
If you sue someone for copyright infringement in an attempt to harass that person and you lose because there was no infringement, the attorneys’ fees provisions may take effect, and you may be forced to pay the other side’s lawyer’s fees"
I think some of these bootleggers are actually fans of the movie/show they are uploading, & they probably are doing so because they know it'll be the only way to watch it later on.
For example, there is this show called Captain Simian And the Space Monkeys which has seemingly never gotten a home media release(in the USA at least, apparently France got a VHS release of the 1st episode), & is no longer airing on any channel at all. So what are people going to do other than just upload full episodes onto YouTube? Heck, the copyright holders of that show don't seem to even CARE about the fact that they are uploading entire episodes unedited.
Big companies are ran by people who are completely out of touch with reality and still live in the era before Youtube, so it doesn't matter whether claiming or taking down the video makes sense or not.
They don't understand that it's free advertising. They don't understand that they could just upload their stuff to Youtube and earn a shit ton of money. Well, at least most companies are like that. Gaming companies (especially SEGA) seem to get that at least partially. They even uploaded some of their songs to the official Sonic channel and let their marketing team do bi-weekly livestreams. It works great for marketing.
I also want to add that I got introduced to the Sonic franchise through fangames and videos and will propably stay with it for the rest of my life because of how good their music is. Hell, I might even buy some of that music despite it being available on Youtube, just like I did with Minecraft after years of using a cracked launcher.
My point is, companies are dumb and fan content is free marketing.
> Start a platform to compete with YouTube > Don't give rights holders any tools to automagically take down "copyrighted" content. > Have channels tagged if they use any content picked up by your automated ID system. > Hire people to MANUALLY REVIEW THE FLAGGED CONTENT > Don't give any big music/movie industry companies access (to create accounts, for example). If the big music/movie companies decide they want to file a class-action lawsuit against your media company, play ball. Take them to court, not only for attempted extortion, but for literally getting butthurt because you were complying with the fair use clause of the DMCA.
I made a review of nascar vs f1 and I was praising f1 and shitting on nascar and fucking liberty media took down my video over a minute of a highlight clip i used for a background that I even sped up.
It's why I ultimately gave up trying to make content. It had 3k views which to me is like a 1M to big youtubers and it had a lot of interaction. It fucking infuriates me that YouTube allows this shit to happen
The video that could've launched my channel fucking dead in the waters.
Me a new sub here, is it just me or does YouTube crash/closes on all of the video that are slightly controversial. Happened twice one you. Maybe its just me but still its worrisome.
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Herra Skanki2020-05-29 19:59:30 (edited 2020-05-29 20:01:23 )
The 2 videos i got a claim are just demonetized which i couldn't give a shit about (one was blocked in one country), i upload videos for entertainment to others and friends, i'm kinda nervous to upload the next video since its a ytpmv with a copyrighted song. So i'm a transformer by the way.
Just make a youtube channel upload some stuff Copyright the stuff then put them In your videos and if it get's clamed you can get 90% of the revenue if you only have 9 alt accounts with stuf that make you able to claim your own videos atleast that's what the original Ace says In his abusing the youtube Copyright sydtrm
The worst is when a record company claims you used a song because the songwriter sampled a clip from a movie, and you used the same clip. So essentially they claim you’re violating fair use by using this thing they used under fair use!
Don't remind me about that Happy Tree Friends animation. I remember when I read the news that it existed several years ago. I still used YouTube to watch Naruto in three parts (remember when that was a thing), so I was really pissed off at Mondo. I don't think I've watched a single animation of them since then.
If pewdiepie can get copyrighted for singing someone else's song, Kurzgesagt can theoretically get copyrighted for drawing a Pokemon. It probably won't, though.
It's a bit ironic how you show MST3K as a way to watch movies, when many, many, many episodes that have been uploaded by users not affiliated with the show are being removed by those who ARE affiliated with the show, or by the CR owner of the movie being lampooned.
What a strange move. The only smart move is not to play. We should all switch to Peertube.
Decentralized, federated, you can run your own instance and have users on it be able to view videos on other instances. It's like if you could watch videos on Vimeo from YouTube. Also there's no ads, but making money would be harder... No grifters!
I wonder how many people complaining about big corporations controlling YT also vote for people who give tax breaks for big corporations and will argue in other areas that they trust businesses rather than government with their best interests.
What the fuck? I paused the video at 3:30 and got lost in my own thoughts and remembered how good Shawshank redemption was when I saw it earlier today. And what do I see two seconds later? One of the best god damn scenes from the movie.
18:26 LOOOLLLL, and Raw is still ass to this day, I always wondered how you were able to get away with playing wrestling themes in ur old vids, like u played Jericho’s, and I forget which wrestling theme it was, but u damn near played the entire theme. Ig u got too big, and u were put on the radar. But idk if AEW’s copyright is any better, ik they copyright AEW botches a lot, but I never of any wrestling youtuber complain about AEW taking down their stuff
My Nutcracker video went through a fuck ton of claims and takedowns by Disney. Its up now but the footage has to be massively edited but I still can't make money off it if I wanted to.
I literally only have 2 videos on my channel and they are shitty beats I made when I was bored in 11th grade yet I still got a claim on one of my videos because the claimant had a song that used the same sample I got from Looperman. Very cool
YT uploader: I want to upload a video to generate ad revenue. Copyright holder: Yeah. YTU: I could do all the work to make my own assets. CH: Uh-huh. YTU: But making assets is really hard work. CH: Tell me about it. YTU: So I want to use your assets. CH: Makes a lot of sense. YTU: But I don't want to pay you for the use of your assets. CH: Right. YTU: And I don't want you to get the ad revenue - you see, I want that ad revenue. If you got the ad revenue, that would be you stealing my hard work. CH: The best option would be to make your own assets, then, and reap the benefits. Or use our valuable assets and pay us. YTU: YOU FASCIST CH: :/
YTU: i want to include your assets without paying you CH: okay... YTU:but your assets will only comprise a fraction of my video CH: yeah YTU: therefore, the revenue i gain from this video will be only be due fractionally to your assets CH: makes sense YTU: i did not transform your assets, so you have a legal and logical right to take advantage of those assets' usage. CH: damn right YTU: and clearly, youre only entitled to that aforementioned fraction of revenue, right? CH: nah, we'll take all the revenue YTU: :/
@Henry Martin That assumes the assets are of equal value. If the YTU assets are generated by a schlub with a potato webcam and free A/V editing software, the value per minute of YTU content is very low. If the CH assets are created by professionals and are cherry-picked to include only the most valuable slices of a commercial or something, and that commercial is valuable because of significant investment by the CH, then the CH assets are extremely valuable per minute. Remember that a McDonald's commercial for example is valuable not only because the company made the asset, but they paid a lot to distribute it, and most of its value is in the brand recognition of the company itself which was developed over a very long time and cost a LOT of money to do.
What that leads to is a 10-minute video where 9 minutes is almost worthless because the YTU assets are cheap cheap cheap, and 1 minute of CH assets which are incredibly valuable in comparison. Let's call it 9 minutes at a penny a minute but 1 minute at $99.91 a minute. Those numbers may not be accurate but the relationship between them is. Possibly more generous to the YTU than we should be.
If the video generates $10 in ad revenue, it would be appropriate for the YTU to take almost 1 cent and for the CH to take the remaining $9.99. Which is so close to taking the whole enchilada that the distinction is meaningless.
As an example of just how cheap user-generated content is, it took me a couple minutes to formulate this excellent response against which there can be no defense, but for no pay, and if any company were hiring me to do it they'd have paid me something like $1.00 gross wages.
That said, we live in a culture where property ownership is a thing. I can't come into your home and feed cattle there without your permission. So the relative values don't actually matter; all that matters is that the YTU uses content he didn't have a right to. The penalty for that infringement is loss of revenue from the work containing stolen assets. And everyone knows that before we even start. So it's a choice, and a gamble, that the YTU is hoping not to get caught. If he wanted to actually make a deal with the CH instead of sneaking assets, he could try. But CH's offered deal would probably be pretty damn close to 99.99:1.
Does anyone remember the CONJOPI guys back in 2010 and how they got Chuggaconroy, NintendoCapriSun’s, and possibly more let’s play channels suspended because of the stupid copyright claim system?
You used Karn Evil 9 (Carnival 9) by Emerson, Lake and Palmer in a video that references clown world, wanton abuse of power and ownership of entertainment content. I can't tell if you're a genius or just into really great music... or both.
Yo Mr downward spiral i could compare your hiatuses to something like berserk but then again at least you don't upload shit between your masterpieces so it's worth the wait.
Wasn't one of pewdiepie's videos claimed because he said Despacito? Oh yes, I remember when you could get copyrigjt striked for saying a word in spanish. I swear that if you write a song and it has 3 notes in a row that happen to be in another song, oh no you're getting sued for these 3 notes in your origional song. It's even gitten to the point where a company like sony will claim a song they don't even own, Sony claimed a video of a woman playing the piano and it was because of a song they "owned". So what song did they "own"? Bach, they apparently "own" the music of Bach. To go even farther, I could bet that if you flashed a single frame of an episode of spongebob in your video your video would then become claimed, in which now it will have little to no ads, and any money you do earn is instantly lost to the company who claimed your video.
You know what's even dumber? It's likely that you could get your video claimed by referring to a sponge who wears pants, but then if another tv show made by another company than the one who owns spongebob, well, we can't sue them if they have an episode in the background, now can we. Since Youtube is an American company you'd think they'd try to have a petition or something to try an get a law passed that could help content creators for the platform and other platforms as well, and even if it doesn't get passed at least they would've tried. U.S. law states that if a petition gets enough signitures the government has to address it. (This is off topic, but the reason why I know about this law is because apparently enough people signed a petition to have the U.S. government create a life size death star, and of course it wasn't passed, but this shows that the U.S. government would have to address petitions.) I don't know the specifica on how a law like that would work, but I know that if a law in one country can affect other countrie's experiences on youtube negatively (COPPA and Article 13) then laws passed in one place should be able to affect youtube across the world positively as well.
To be fair though, even experts in vpn services were recommending nordvpn. Nobody knew about the breach, until it was reported on. I mean if your gonna take a sponsor, at least do it on some creditable company. So it's really nobodies fault for accepting the sponsor money from nordvpn.
14:34 i don’t’ agree with you if I want to watch the incredible I watch the uncredible and the noncredible and maybe the excredible if I’m really feeling like hearing sus in 2019
Yo if someone's video is monetized and an Ad plays I won't buy your shit just for putting ads on YouTube. That way media won't want anything to do with it and will instead do sponsorships like NordVPN.
see i work on music and i want to upload to youtube but FUCK UMG i've been hit by them once for something they did not have the rights to at all but they wanted to make money of it anyway and i had to take down the song (the funny thing is it wasnt even a good song it was when i was just starting out making trash)
YouTubers need to Unionize or stop bellyaching. It’s like YouTubers tried nothing and are all out of ideas. Why won’t y’all consider using actual leveraging of content together? This works for ALL aspects of bringing the bosses of digital media to the bargaining table. The thing of value y’all have to bargain is your content that makes up the whole YT site’s cash flow. They know y’all wont band together bc y’all hate each other. Fk all that. If YouTubers put aside their tone deaf feeble analysis and collectivize. There’s plenty of resources on how to organize a completely unrealized potential international content creator Union. Look into it. Bc if you don’t you’re ignoring over 100 years of fighting unjust exploitation of creator/laborers.
Maybe we should all go back to making old-school style videos with nothing but a webcam and MS Movie Maker. No more professional videos. That way, we cannot get copyright-striked anymore.
Also, the Joker memes have already been done to death, not cool.
Wow...just wow.... ever see a video that you are excited to see the follow up to?..... what am I witness too? Nothing. Or the start of something. Drunk ass thought.
taps head Don't have to worry about being claimed if you have no viewers...
But really though, after adpocolypse I decided not to chase monetization. Then they changed the qualifiers and that sealed the deal. I'm fine with the owners of the music I use in my vids getting any ad money from the few clicks I get. I just want feedback.
Besides isn't patreon and other related sites better anyway?
dont use mainstream trash music then.. and make your own,most music is the same generic sounds anyway,and i dont even care about music,saves me time not listening to repetitive things and copyright bs in the future
I really wish you would reupload or try to dispute your old ytps it’s not like I’m asking for you to make frying dory but if you have some spare time maybe try? I love going on old ytp nostalgia trips
Alex Shih2019-09-22 00:29:10 (edited 2019-09-22 00:39:16 )
EmpLemon conveniently forgot to mention that this year YouTube implemented a policy that doesn't allow companies to monetize manually claimed videos that use very short song clips (e.g. 5 seconds of a song) or have unintentional copyrighted audio (e.g. passing cars). They also made it so that companies have to include timestamps for where the copyrighted material is. YouTube's Content ID is still pretty shit, but at least now you don't have to play the guessing game of what part of the video the Content ID system didn't like. EmpLemon is making the Content ID system look worse than it actually is.
If I ever decide to actually finish the YouTube like site (molded by users, IDGAF about money so long as it can pay for itself, I can get a job. Cuz fuck YouTube) how should I implement copyright? Would love some ideas and will implement whatever may work the best. By the way, I'm coding all of it so the only way they can kick us off is if the hosting site/CDN (cloudflare) refuses us service....which will result in a huge lawsuit because, ya know, contracts :3
Just gonna shove my copyright law comments in your hot comment section, but renditions aren't transformative : ). But w/e it's not like there are many people who know the difference.
I mean, I know your a sophisticated guy. The world is a MESS, the world is as ANGRY as it gets! What, you think this is gonna cause some more anger? The world is an angry place!
Well l have a chanel with my best friend that has over 2 k subs did a 10 min anime rewiwew video it took like 30+ hour and a clip got claimed so we had to re upload hole fuking thing
5:26 Sorry if it's out of context but what's show that clip came from. I used to watch it on TV when I was a child if I wasn't wrong but I forgot the title.
Emp I honestly love your style of video and even though it’s born from hurdles due to copyright I do think it has such a unique flare. Honestly I’d love to see more creators do this transformer approach to copyrighted content. I really think this is a video series many aspiring creators should keep in mind
Thank you mentioning how royally screwed YTPers were back in the dark days of '08-'09. So many YTP channels were destroyed or forced to retire thanks to YouTube's scorched earth policy back then, to the point where they basically killed off the format. My old account's Favorites playlist is a veritable graveyard of deleted videos from that era.
I hope Emp talks about "copyright deadlock" in his next video. It's use case is specific, but it's one of the few ways you can use the system against corperations on youtube.
I use backing tracks for cutting montages (don’t ask 🤣) in some of ny videos. I find slowing the song down to 85% or so lets it limbo under content ID pretty well whilst still having the same recognition of a known song, which people seem to respond well to. Thanks for making these sorts of videos, its invaluable.
Very good video, I really like your style, can't wait for the second part and I agree with most of it, but I have to correct one thing, this is gonna be a long comment but I think its important.
You say after a rejected dispute you can only take them to court, thats false, after a disputed claim gets rejected by the claimant, which happens 99% of the time, you can appeal the rejected dispute (as seen in the image you used), and if they want to keep the rights of the video THEY have to take you to court, which they never do in cases of fair use because not only they would lose but also set a precendent. In other words, Youtube gives you the tools to force them to take you to court if you insist on keeping the rights of your video.
Most youtubers don't take that secod step because they are afraid of a giant corporation suing them and youtube giving them strikes and ending their channels, but the truth is if you go though with the second appeal and your work can be seen as fair use, you will win and get the rights back. It can take up to two months and youtube clearly made a system that encourages copyright fraud, but if you are right youtube allows you to fight for it.
I have seen a lot of youtubers say what you said in this video about having no options after the first rejection, don't know if people lie to get sympathy and make youtube seem worse or if you guys don't know what really happens because never tried to appeal for the second time and are just repeating what you heard, but I wish youtubers would stop spreading this lie, because it just encourages people to not fight for their rights even though they can and let the big companies take their money
I had some videos blocked that were clearly fair use. When I appealed them, they told me that they didn't care about Fair Use and still were gonna block the videos. Now, as a small creator, I didn't want to go toe-to-toe legally with these people, so I just moved on. Reactor gave me some advice, which was to never use a clip for more than 10 seconds. Since taking that advice, none of my reviews have ever been flagged.
Sometimes I just want to watch a certain clip for nostalgia or to refresh my memory but the the official channels either doesn't have or edited. I was talking about a rocko's modern life episode and wanted to show sad clip but the clip I found had music over it. It was that episode where Rocko's dog Spunky was in love with a mop and he runs into the closet where you can hear some eye brow raising sound effects. The person I told this to didn't believe they did it but i didn't want to go through the hassle of downloading, editing and uploading to google docs.
Came to learn what video title was about, stayed to find out premier date of AEW on TV.
What needs to happen is for people to start taking this stuff to court. Even if you don't win or make any money in the end, making abuse of the copyright system so expensive and time consuming that corporations don't want to deal with it is the only way things will change. Yes, it's a long and hard road but that's usually how revolutions go. The US didn't win its independence in a couple years by a bunch of people asking nicely. People had to fight and suffer for the greater good.
And then theres Jim Sterling who purposely gets multiple copyright strikes from several companies so no one can benefit from his work if he cant. Love him or hate him you have to admit its genius
Back in 2016 someone made a ytp of an internet show called “Ken’s Cinema of Shenanigans.” What did the copyright owner do? Reacted to it on a live stream.
Frankly, I just think that YouTube should just grow a pair and say that it's the Youtubers responsibility to watch out for what he posts. Not bending over to influencers and corporate shills. If they said "It's Jack Paul's fault, not ours, he's getting his ass destroyed", not only none of the bad decisions that happened after the Suicide Drama would have occurred, the Paul's would have terminated, and the corporates would calm down, if not shut up about it. But no, YouTube loves his influencers even if their content is absolute garbage watched by drooling drones with 2 of IQ, Muh money is what matters. But again, if the website totally gave Youtubers total responsibility over any drama, YouTube would not be in such shit. And they should have done this many aeons ago, not just when the Jack Paul incident occurred or any other drama.
Just blame (((Susan))) for that. The Old YouTube was way better than this new platform. Did not care about your data, your content, could be anything as long as it's not porn, could make an account separated from Google+, had full creativity over your channel appearance, and of course, people did videos our of pure passion. I don't mind earning money from those videos, but it truly shaped YouTube and its users in a really, really bizarre way.
Youtube needs a team that observes and settles disputes between creators and copyright holder. Since the ID system only sees the use of copyrighted content, not the context, this team could review the video and decide if needs to be claimed or not. Of course, this will take time and recourses for youtube. But given how much youtubers have lost, it would be deserved.
no way its gonna get better until the are rules/laws that enforce youtube and other platforms to give similar support to both the copyright holder and user. US law enforces youtube to help copyright holders (result of Viacom vs Youtube lawsuit) which has lead to the current mess. only way to balance it is a similar law for helping the other side too.
It's painful because it gives AI's (particularly AGIs) a bad name. They have terrifyingly awesome prowess in discovering patterns the above average human could occasionally miss except consistently. The content ID system is neglected and it's painful to see such a large step of normalized usage for AGIs being crippled in favor of media industry bs.
Shed not a tear for the bootlegger gone in the night, his job complete, the smile on your face and the laugh in your voice is all the payment he needs.
Personal anecdote, one of my videos is a posting of a public domain 1960 film, and it has been claimed because content ID thinks it's some guy's song that sampled from that movie
If you were to ask me five years ago if creating a YouTube channel and making videos for the heck of it would be a worthwhile hobby for when I grew up, I would've had no problem with it. Practically everything I've been seeing on YouTube lately was how people are trying to sneak past a paranoid security system and how said security system is disposing content that had practically nothing wrong with it. At this point, it's basically a battle between major companies and the people that this fucking site was MADE FOR!!! This is the reason I will NEVER post anything I make on this website. I don't want to have to deal with "copyright infringement" and having to explain to defective robots that Fair Use is a thing that exists for the fifty trillionth time. The sooner that the website's target audience can stop having to deal with this inept horseshit, or we can get a suitable replacement that doesn't have this, the better.
I had an account a long time ago that was mildly successful with just a little over 20k subs.. In 2010 I started uploading Reach beta footage, and all of a sudden my channel was wiped from existance from multiple bogus 3rd party claims, ranging from claiming the audio, to the visuals, to even my own outro which I made myself. Youtube pretty much told me to go fuck myself, Bungie closed their eyes and ears, and even a lawyer told me unless I'm willing to spend a minimum of a few thousand to get the ball rolling I'm SOL. Since then I only use this account, a backup I made long long ago, which has all those videos privatised.. and each one of them, despite being private and unavailable to the public, is demonitised permanently. Youtube, as a platform, is fucked in the fucking head, and I've been slowly but surely moving all my content over to other platforms, like Pornhub.. At least they talk to me when I receive a claim on my videos.
Trying to monetize my videos is like trying fly the USS Enterprise over New York City without anyone noticing. Precisely why I have a job at my local Meijer. Life sucks...
I think the whole YouTube copyright system should be based on a percentage. If 1% of my video is using copyrighted material, the claiment can gain 1% of my revenue. If 100% of my video is copyrighted material, the claiment gets 100% of the revenue. It wouldn't be hard to implement since YouTube had / has this feature already to see from what till what time your video is using copyrighted material.
What this will do is give parts of claimed video revenue still to the creator, fight full on copyrighted movies, and maybe discourage big corporations to claim videos that use under 5-10% of revenue.
first videos I watched on youtube were resident evil parody cartoons. That's back then when resident evil 4 got released on PC (first PC port with keyboard aiming).
@Isaac Cea Aye, there exists multiple companies that make a living off of false copy right claims, and they are supported by foreign court rulings. Thus, youtube sets up a flawed system in order to appease those foreign courts, rather than the local law where the company is based.
I hate how copyright (which is really quite outdated for the internet age) allows huge companies to make EVEN MORE money with little effort - implying that it's those who use or even liberally sample a work are somehow stealing from a poor helpless. Our current system doesn't even really help those who are actually vulnerable to having their work ripped off in the first place, especially when the legal system is disgustingly favoured towards companies. Look, take Disney and Kimba the White Lion - can you seriously imagine a lawsuit there (which already costs SO much money, for attorneys and court fees) not resulting in a Disney win on BUDGET alone, which is why there was no lawsuit and there probably will never be one even if Mushi Production and Right Stuf Inc. has interest to do so.
tl:dr - Fuck copyright holders. Copyright law is old and shit and at the very least needs a serious update. The system only favours those who continue to exploit creators.
One thing wrong with this video is the assumtion that youtube doesn't care who recieves the add revenue, because they still proffit from it. Google doesn't care about revenue of youtube in a first place. It wouldn't suprise me, that when google finally finishes developing deep learning based video compression, that would drastically reduce storage requirements, google would end any kind of monetisation for non-corp channels. Google bought youtube not to earn money, but to prevent competition and they have admited that that they care more about "social impact" of youtube, than revenue.
16:05 what's the 2nd background music next to Mr. game and watch? Is the guitar part of the song? It's so feint, but it sounds really recognizable and sweet.
I was less upset at the idea that people can copyright strike your videos if it's justified. I was really fucking upset at Youtube's "LOL THIS GUY HAS FUCKING NO EVIDENCE BUT HE SAID IT'S TRUE SO THIS IS HIS VIDEO NOW, YOU ALSO CAN'T GET OWNERSHIP OF THE VIDEO BACK IF HE REJECTS YOUR APPEAL". This sort of unprofessional, inhuman and robotic response to someone losing their monthly income over a completely ignorant and heartless approach on Youtube's behalf made me lose my faith in Youtube's direction. Google has no empathy for the people that rake in cash for Youtube and it's disgusting.
I saw a ster_ thumbnail and heard a Jerma reference. If that isn't foreshadowing that ster and/or Jerma video you hinted at a while ago, I don't know what is. Everybody wants to see this happen.
okay but I legit havent thought about or seen the spongebob shooting patrick video since like 2009 sorry emp I'll finish the vid later I gotta find this classic
Good to see a new video, but I have a problem, should I not care that T-Series reached 100 mil first because they're a corporation, it's just a meme and that even Pewds didn't really care or should I be concerned that we missed our chance to represent an individual channel reach the 100 lillion milestone first?
Not to be rude but I got 60 subscribers and I don't edit or use copyright stuff. Well I mean even if I did I dont have enough subscribers to get adsince. But still 60 subs by just being me. The way YouTube was and should be. Why must we relying on other people's shows and songs to be famous? Why cant we just be are self's?
I don't get the thinking behind taking down vids for clips cause oh I listened 2 5 sec of a beatles song guess I won't buy it know like wth if anything it'll make me want to buy it more
could U make American Dad YTP By the way if you can't do any of those YTPs that's fine I'm just giving you suggestions you're still one of my Fav YouTubers
A way to counteract the "we can't take them to court" issue is to make a union. No joke. Have a coalition of YTers and fans make a union to protect people.
I have an hour's worth of footage over a few videos that I had like so many views on... I gave up and never reposted any of them. especially when you are in fear of losing my channel all together right? I'm looking forward to your next video... im thinking I may use your methods in an attempt to share the media I simply love and want to support in my own way ❤️🤘 *most of the were dragon ball
something tells me that a fuuuuuuuuck tone big wigs are gonna be all "ohh these kids don't know how to use the legal system " i point to this channel and laugh
I don't care anymore, i want youtube to become the sequel to blockbuster. Pornhub owner should make a competing platform and NOT SELL OUT to google regardless of how much pay they give.
Employee: Hey boss! There a video using our clips! Boss: There is, send a copyright claim! Employee: But sir the video title is "Why insert company name is so great" Boss: What did I just say! That shit out there is using our clips, and isn't benefiting from it in anyway except his audience viewing it! Employee: wait.... but then why do we ca- Boss: Do it or you're gonna be demonetized in a second!
Wow the cringe from your skit advertisement at the end... Apart from that mess I enjoyed the video but I wish you had plet us know when part 2 is coming out.
Makes a video about video revenue getting stolen; 0:58 steals a webm made for 4Chan. HOWEVER EmpLemon was probably the one who made it originally. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. its well used in this videos' opener so fuck it, Its not like OP got paid anyway
18:04 I mean, the video taught me a lot and I'll leave a like because I liked it, but could you not use a meme that describes screeching as "autistic?"
Hey guys I'm poor and need money so I'm gonna find out how to make money uploading Family Guy Funny Moments videos without getting copyright striked. Wish me luck gang 👌💰💸
Seriously? Those fucking autists at WWE blocked your video AFTER THE MONETIZING CLAIM? This shit reminds me when I did a lil' remix of Benassi's Satisfaction. To this day it's the only video blocked worldwide I got, and I don't understand why. Is it because I used the vocal drop from "Put Your Hands Up For Detroit" and that thing is owned by another company that won't settle with Benassi's label for the ad royalties?
So 009 Sound System was actually Youtube recommended? I thought it was just people jumping on some band-wagon, I didn't make videos so I never encountered that.
I really appreciate how well researched and Informed your videos seem to be. It makes them incredibly interesting and have good re-watchable ability. It always makes me glad to wait even if it's a long time since it's always a good video.
hey emp, I have to admit, I'm going to watch Part 2, since I was actually thinking of starting my own channel detailing some covers, rant, and a bit of some VOD streams (Mainly ill do it on Twitch), it'd be honestly nice for you to share some tips for people on the fence of starting a YT career in this absolute hellscape
I actually have a ton of respect for you putting the affiliate ad at the end, very few content creators do that and it's much less intrusive. and yours was quite a bit funnier too.
Great video Emp, luv the subjects you cover. All I will say tho is that I'm pretty sure Youtube doesn't get involved in copyright claims because they don't want to get sued, which actually makes sense considering if a lot multi million dollar corporations like UMG took Youtube to court over every transformative media video and won just a few of those cases then Youtube would go completely bankrupt.
Don't forget the fact that the bootleggers regularly put the fair use law in their description/in their videos when they clearly don't fall under that protection.
I think YouTube can manually check every video claimed, the system is able to detect what part of the video is copyrighted and leave a timestamp. So YouTube can have a specific set of staff, set to watch and review all the time stamps.
Not expecting everyone to have their claims removed the same day they're trying to fight it, but at least within 3 days. While 3 days are going on, the monetization is still running and which every party wins is granted the money. And depending on how bad the copyrighted video is there will be different punishments.
Also, YouTube will have their staff decide on things instead of those big corporations, who often times than not instantly deny your appeal.
Great editing, great music choice Great video as usual Now prepare for Nintendo to spam you for Icicle Mountain and Flat Zone Oh and whatever label it is that does Gorillaz They're pretty anal about stuff too
Gaming channel here. Reached a point where, even when playing for self/not recording, I have a flinch reaction to seeing a jukebox, radio, or other audio media player in games. Background music gets a LOT of questionable claims.
I can'r wait 'til part 2 where EmpLemon finally reveals the ploy to pump all this revenue into the sequel to McDonald's Treasure Land Adventure. The signs were all there, we just didn't connect the dots soon enough.
Mr Enter uploads a dire warning about Social Credit systems the same day Emp uploads this. Perhaps the omnipresence of cyber surveillance is a truly important issue.
This is very good video EmpLemon. WWE did you so dirty coming from a wrestling fan which makes you think that Companies actually care about your videos whether falling under copyright or fair use 👍
A curious thought just came to mind. What if you made 2 channels, one to create content, and one to copyright claim your other channel? You could get all the money from your own channel through the other channel, that way other people can't claim sole ownership of your video, cause you are also claiming your video.
Everything about Youtube these days feels so depressing. They really want to be a cable company so badly, they make up excuses for their policy changes in order to trim the fat of content creators. Its a dark age right now.
You should put a thing in the description of your videos telling us if the video is monetized. Then if it's been claimed I'll know to watch on my PC with adblock on lul
YouTube's content claim/block system is so fucked. I once uploaded a video that used a 30 second clip of the "Roundabout" song from the JoJo to be continued meme, and for 7 months the video was untouched. Then one day, the video was blocked in all countries. In response, I removed that section from the video, and reuploaded a new version of the video without it. A week later, the reupload gets claimed by some company that had no evidence of existing when I googled them. Their claim was basically that the game I was playing was copyrighted and I couldn't use it (as if we were back in 2008 or some shit) So I re-reupload the video, made no changes, and this time it's fine. No claims, no blocks.
A week later, both previous videos get unblocked and I now have 3 of the same video on my channel with the only differences between them being the outro.
And of course, this doesn't even cover how some channels will be demonetized despite not relying on copyrighted content, simply for saying The Bad Things. (coughStevenCrowdercough)
The point about Fantano is really valid, by the time I see a review from him, it’s unnecessary for me cause it’s usually for a new song or album for an artist I like and have already listened to, making a review unnecessary, and without clips, I’m unable to get samples of new bands I haven’t heard of I judge whether I like it despite him saying it’s good or not, is it worth listening to a 40 minute album that he says is great if I don’t like the first song and it’s putting me off? Well if I’m given a sample of the good stuff to come, it can be that little push you need, his content would he so much better if the copyright system didn’t actively fuck you over
I agree with everything but the FlyingKitty's Despacito 2 video. I have my doubts, but I don't know why I feel like music is something different from animations... (Drawings, illustrations, etc).
Hahahahaah so funny guys! This isn’t actually affecting us directly and thus we will forget it in about half a week just like the other thousands of problems with YouTube and google, right? We don’t have to do anything and this is just le funny meme haha imagine if people’s living conditions depended on this hahahahahahahah
well there is a solution, just not care about youtubes dismal ad revenue and just have sponsorships from other companies which is what the majority of people are doing anyway. the monetary system put its own rigs in the game to favor corporations. adsense made youtubers make content for money and not content for passion.
So all the music used in this video is from smash bros. Is this just because Emp’s been playing a lot of smash lately, or is this some kind of cryptic foreshadowing?
Your Game Sucks2019-09-21 18:43:32 (edited 2019-09-21 18:44:47 )
The only way to create content and still profit (currently) is to not care about feeding the corporations that are stealing your money, and depending on the fans of the content to support you. PayPal, CashApp, Patreon, etc. are the only services Content Creators like EmpLemon and myself can depend on in order to make money.
16:46 There's your problem; "private citizen" is not a man or woman but rather a "person" who subjugate themselves to corporations. Private citizen is a fictitious legal entity and is treated no differently than any corporation because, under legal, there is no difference. They are a fictitious legal entity that holds no office and has no rights but rather "privileges". Independent Youtubers don't know how to sue under the common law using a financial hardship status. The requirements are to understand common law and how to properly file paperwork and handle oneself in court. You want freedom; then you must take individual responsibility as an American not a US CITIZEN and learn the common law from which the Constitution was written. Only then will one understand how rights truly work.
Copyright, as a whole have a whole lot of other issues:
-Copyright last way too long, thanks to RIAA and Disney wanting to make copyright last far longer than most people are willing to protect their IP. Resulting things like orphaned works and abandonware. There are cases where copyright holders “disappears”, their work aren't “adopted” (transfer ownership) and thus, the work is in-copyright undefended.
-EULAs and DRM, companies essentially can write their own laws and prohibit actions that would normally be legal, such as repairing a tractor (f*ck john deere). EULA is backed by contract law, and DRM is backed by the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA.
-DMCA alone have enormous flaws, the latest extreme is when a youtube user named “Cxlvxn” (Calvin on twitter) got swatted when filing a counternotice.
I have talked to my state representative about this, my suggestions are:
-Instead of deleting/removing materials, why not just lock them up and then release them (downloadable from that website) when proven legal or enters the public domain. A database that takedown'ed materials must be uploaded here (not available to public) when this happens (DMCA notice and lawsuits).
-All DMCA notices are not to be private, they are to be hosted in the database, for the public to see. This is my response to things on the internet can be secretly removed. Any person can pay a fee to access the material (also being monitered to prevent that person from sharing that material) to verify the claim and the material, and fight back that the claim is wrong. If the person wins, he'll get refunded, if the copyright holder wins, then the money the person paid goes to that holder.
-Copyright holders must notify the government that they're still holding on to their works every 5 years, if they don't they have until the next 5 years or else their works will enter public domain sooner. This is my response to works that copyright holders cease defending them and abandon them.
Game? If your talking about the Movie, it's the Incredible' If your talking about the Scout Mercenary shrugging, that's Team Fortress 2, and if your talking about the guy pointing at the screen next to Robots, that's Mystery Science Theater 3000
If agent 47 exist I bet the CEO of yourube won't fuck with their website because people will start donating and fund that hitman to do a surprise visit
NordVPN was a trap, beware of those techy craps next time EmpLemon . Besides, I am really excited for part two so that I can make non-subliminal videos even less copyrighted. At least until I move my content to PeerTube or anywhere open source enough to secure my self-hosting control priviledges.
It's gone beyond 'Not feeling bad when the bootleggers get caught', for me. I actively resent getting claimed over background music or game cutscenes, while still easily able to find whole episodes of shows on other channels.
Honestly I do have a high appreciation for Bootleggers. Seeing how whenever there's a scene from a movie/tv show I really like, I always go to Youtube to re-watch it.
You've seriously hit the perfect balance between humor and information with this video. Great job, i'm looking forward to part two. But how fucking dare you dislike the anthem of Youtube
Here's how I got banned from livestreaming on YouTube for 3 months, I was streaming the game Fate Extella Link. Normally streaming gameplay is OK except if the publisher gives a big warning beforehand (Persona 5), but these people didn't. I streamed, it got blocked, I asked them why, they said "Well North American version is released now but Europe version doesn't release for 2 more days so we're blocking streaming!" I said OK, but because my livestream was "blocked", YouTube banned my streaming pviledges for 3 months automatically with no appeal form at all, I had to talk to the Fate Extella Link publishers to talk to YouTube for me, really depressing situation and you see faults from both publishers and YouTube themselves. The publishers here though didn't realize that blocking the livestream would make YouTube automatically ban your streaming ability, and YouTube thinks that whenever a livestream is blocked that you're doing the worst of the worst like streaming movies or TV. But in the end, I'm definitely never touching that game again, shame too because people really love the characters.
I honestly just feel so bad for you and youtubers on this platform, your content is honestly revolutionary and more interesting than most things I even see on TV. Your "Never Ever" Series was even how I found you, and it was an in-depth analysis on what made that topic so good in the first place with some spice of your Youtube Poop editing with the sugar of good and compelling research info. It's truly sad to see how easily companies can literally abuse this system and letting you and other channels literally get thrown into the side when in some contexts it's beneficial for the company who copyrighted it anyway when they don't even need to. Really hope for the next episode and still try to stay afloat in shark waters that is YouTube.
I could only guess that copyright claiming your own videos is one of the many ways to avoid getting copyright claimed (or splitting the ad revenue) on the next part.
I like how Jim Sterling does it: load a vid with all sort of copyrighted content, to ensure the vid is content ID'd by several corporations so no one gets any revenue.
I remember countless youtube videos I bookmarked back in the day that ended up muted. Not a single one survived. I had to find reuploads. I don't have then saved today because upon rewatching them I realized they are hot garbage.
I've had to deal with the same thing happening around 17:32 with a review I did on Cheers, I literally had less than around 30 seconds of a clip from Cheers which had some B-Roll placed on top, after I removed that and moved more stuff around they went hey no copyrighted material here.
I hope that the techniques the people use to avoid copyright claims can still be used by the creators after you post a video pointing out what those techniques are.
I believe there are some really easy fixes to YouTube Strikes (both copyright and community guideline.
A. Have everybody upload a transcript of their video with the video, maybe not even synced with the audio. Reviewers and commentary channels already have their scripts written. It’s bootleg and pirating channels that will be forced to take time to write out a lengthy script.
B. Check the script with the autocaptions. Scripts that are obviously fake (10% fidelity) can get easily found out. Actual text is much easier to check for content ID than the crapshoot that is AI identification. The script can also be available to watchers, meaning the YouTuber can more easily employ their own audience to make good captions and in multiple languages.
C. Human Review. YouTube has an army of people who watch an hour or more of YouTube a day. A lot of them would like the benefits of YouTube Premium (no ads, download videos) but don’t want to pay. YouTube can track your watch time, and if you go over, say, 1 hour in a day, they offer you a pre-roll. It says, “Want YouTube Premium for 24 hours? Manually review this video!” YouTube informs the viewer what the video was flagged for. The watcher then watches the whole video, unable to skip it (like an ad), and at the end, YouTube simply asks “Was this video suitable for [ ] children and families, [ ] teens and older, or [ ] mature audiences.” Then, “does this video include copyright material from Company X.”
I don’t think it’s a silver bullet, but it seems like a good start to me to employ the YouTube community.
I started watching youtube when I was a young, sonic-obsessed boy. I used youtube to watch all 3 seasons of Sonic X, the only Sonic tv show that wasn't on netflix.
You can bring them to small claims court, it's much more streamlined and has a maximum financial penalty of $5,000 so they can't counter sue for a sizable amount. The court fees are also much smaller, around only $35 for a filing. You can also offer a percentage of your possible court winnings in your lawyer's contract to subsidize cost
For most claims on youtube the results are pretty cut and dry, so your lawyer likely wouldn't need a lot of time to formulate a case. If you have an hourly agreement with your lawyer this means the costs will likely not exceed 1-2k in fees
Emp I'm not very sure if it'd be such a wise idea to make a public video showing how people can get past the Content ID bot. Even though it might not look like it, there still are real people working at Youtube, at least people who program and update the site. I don't think it'd turn out too well if one of those people saw a video pointing out all the holes in their current iteration of the Content ID algorithm.
Ever noticed how spirals have no theoretical end? No matter how far you zoom it all looks the same, and in the end we will always be in a downward spiral.
(NOTE: this is a joke) i don't think its a good idea to upload part 2 to youtube. its basically giving them ideas to try and counter the ways other youtubers get around false copyright. i highly recommend you upload the video to lessser known video sites like vidme or daily motion.
YouTube giving away free money was bait for the trap, and it gave them a near total monopoly on video hosting online. Competitors can't offer monthly payouts to YouTubers like Google can, and some people have built their lives around that money, so they won't jump ship even if a less censorious option appears.
There's no real solution for monetization (yet), but at the very least YouTubers in Modern Year need to be looking at alternative networks to function as backup channels. Bitchute is okay-ish (mostly), but PeerTube instances offer a more flexible, less censorious network to host content on. Using YouTube as the main, and PeerTube as the backup makes it easy to at least keep your content visible to everybody. Add a Patreon, SubscribeStar, or Flote account (if you're into the cryptocurrencies), and you can point your viewers at them after a Copystrike against you causes a stir among them.
It won't be enough to make up for the kind of money Google/YouTube can offer through AdSense and the Partner Program, but people need to realize that the pennies they give out is only ever about securing their monopoly and creating a serf class to prop up their platform. The time to diversify into other platforms and revenue streams is now, while there's time to ease into it. Not during the next Adpocalypse or Copyright disaster. Don't wait for the crises to hit before you start building Plan B.
FYI, I've got 11 years in the army. My information has been sold to every country that exists and will exist. Hell, that strip of 9 numbers is everywhere in the world now.
You know, you used the word “meta” in this video But I thought of doing that first, a few hours ago Expect a copy strike soon, “Electro Magnetic Pulse Lemon”
I remember when I posted a video of an Alex Van Halen drum solo back in 08/09, and it was just muted. I tried to re-upload, and the same shit. Honestly, at that time I thought I was gonna have legal issues or have my channel removed, but what's a 13 year old to believe lol Some years later, I see the video isn't playable because content isn't available to the USA. Now I go on the same video, and it's actually playable now, solo and all.
It’s so wrong that you need to play a game to have a good channel. Copyright system is so stupid, anybody can use it and your channel will get fricked if get copyright claimed. And YouTube won’t do anything, they don’t care about content creators.
You used Munkey's song again without crediting him? How is he going to make ends meet without those royalties, especially when he keeps spending all his money on booze and expensive cat toys?
The only way to fix a problem like this is to either A: sue Google (good luck), or B: move to a new video platform (ie Bitchute). As long as YouTube has the power, they have no reason to care about the creators. And the more people like Mumkey are censored and deplatformed, the more people will be forced to move off of YouTube. It is inevitable at this rate.
Not only that but there are people that claim leaked songs from people such as Kanye West because they know they’ll keep getting reuploaded and get consistent views and get the ad revenue from it and the people that actually worked on the song get nothing but YouTube doesn’t do anything about it
Tbh are the risks worth it when Patreon (or other money sites) and merchandise exist? Like I feel like Patreon is a way more worth it and the only disadvantages I see are lacks of Money from views/kids and Patron taking some of the cut.
do you understand he uses song karn evil 9 which stands for CARNIVAL and he uses a circus from a fucking carnival thats my man right there EMERSON LAKE AND PALMER I HAVE THAT SHIITS ON VINYL MY MAAANN\
if you have to rely on copyrighted content to not be boring or bland maybe that says more about you or other you tubers than anything to do with the copyright system. I think fair use should exist but your argument is horrible.
that copyrighted content is extremely recognizable and relatable because people nowadays see as much of it as they do things in the real world, like cars or trees. im not kidding either, think of how recognizable just the outline of spongebob is. he's as ingrained in most peoples brains as the silhouette of an apple. so then to not be allowed to make use of spongebob to say, idk, transform a scene from the show to look like spongebob is killing everyone becomes unreasonable. corporations have shoved star wars and cartoons and all this iconography down our throats and largely against our wills since most of us were born. theyre key components of our world, and a creative mind makes use of the key components of their world, often to turn them into something new. now key components are being locked behind paywalls because ppl who already made bank with them years and years ago still get to hold all the value they potentially hold, even if some of that value only comes from others who have new ideas for these pre-existing things. taking away access to these components leaves only what the creators of those components had, which are now less useful because they have been used to make new things, and making new things from them will only yield bland and overdone results. thats where the blandness and boringness comes from. i think emplemons editing skill and comedic timing should tell you that hes more than capable of making great content as long as he has access to the same quantity of creative fuel that everyone before him had
Anyone have any free pc editing softwares for making videos like kitty0706? I actually wanna make good videos one day but i don't have the money right now to get good stuff? If you actually suggest something i would appreciate it alot (also hoping EmpLemon see's this somehow)
Use bitchute. Youtube doesn't give a flying fuck what the users think and absolutely will not listen, no matter what bullshit happens. Google can buy their way out of court. The only way to fix this shit is to move to a different platform, namely bitchute. Continuing to rely on this platform and this platform alone is YOUR problem. Bitchute may be spicier, but you don't have to rely on godawful ads to get money. Users can directly support content creators through bitchute.
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joe moma2021-05-25 16:28:50 (edited 2021-05-25 16:29:00 )
That WWE thing at the end sounded like the most Vince McMahon thing I could possibly think of. Just doing something to piss off the othe side, even if it is gonna harm themselves.
Also, your ad has no power over me. My data is already well-known by the Chinese goverment because I own a Huawei phone! How are you gonna counter that JokeEmp?!
It's true, I first came here just to watch episodes of Trailer Park Boys before the show really caught on in the US and it was the only place to do so.
Kindhapp Says hi but he literally says in this video he puts copyrighted content into his videos purely for the point to put copyrighted content in his videos (not all the time however) Just seems like a hypocritical move. Or maybe he’s chicken🤷🏻♂️
I always love watching these copyright videos EmpLemon. Ever since i my first YTP was claimed by b_viacom, I looked to your videos about why the hell this shit is going on.
I used to want to start up a YouTube channel. I gave up on that idea because of how bad it’s gotten. It’s too hostile towards the creators for me to put the effort into fighting everything aimed towards keeping small channels small. Everywhere I look, I see nothing but reasons not to upload as opposed to upload. It’s hell. YouTube broke their website, and that broke me.
You can get as many views and subs from talking into a webcam now, as you could in 2009. The only thing that's changed is that people expect to get more than a few hundred views to be successful now >_<
THIS WHOLE FUCKIN VIDEO CONTAINS COPYRIGHT MATERIAL FROM UMG WHICH HAS WHICH HAS BEEN BLOCKED ON THE COPYRIGHT GROUNDS THEIR UNCLE AINT THE ONLY THING THEY POUND DOWN IN RIAA BLUES
Yeah copyright is pretty shitty nowadays, I made a YouTube poop back in the day that I think I either removed or is still up but Viacom claimed it, I didn’t know other people were having this issue though
Where do you place bootleggers who upload unedited footage that's no longer accessible via the original owners? Archives of Old shows that never get shown anymore?
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV, Jesus Christ is the only way........
You can actually get monitization back without going to court. Just call their bluff and deal with the video being shut down for 2 weeks. It's a pain, but I've done it and won.
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Doesn't work with UMG though, always gets rejected no matter what.
89 likes@Polocatfan just cuz they cant doesnt mean they don't
237 likes@Polocatfan joe mama
189 likes@Jordan Thomas No u
12 likes@Polocatfan Well YouTube sides with UMG for all creators, dunno what to tell ya.
66 likesSame surprisingly happens if you use RWJ's "Doin ya mum" clips for a meme. YouTube won't let me pass my counter-notification no matter what.
It's fucking bullshit.
Despite how much you state the fair use law and how your meme is transformative, you always get this if it's related to UMG.
40 likesDear Kippykip,
Thank you for your counter notification. Unfortunately, it's unclear to us whether you have a valid reason for filing a counter notification, so we won't be able to honour your request.
Counter notifications are only used when content has been removed as a result of mistake or misidentification, which may include exceptions like fair use. Keep in mind that using this process may result in the claimant filing a lawsuit against you for copyright infringement, so you should evaluate your legal position before filing a counter notification.
@Polocatfan Problem? No, he's stating facts. Just because something is illegal, doesn't mean people don't do it.
80 likes@Kippykip then take them to court? If you're not willing to follow through with the law, why would they not use that against you? UMG is not the only part of the problem; people being unwilling to take legal action is equally to blame.
13 likesIs it time consuming, expensive, and a pain in the ass in general? Sure. But if it means that much to you, then you should be willing to go the distance. If you're not, you're willingly submitting to them when they have no legal standing, and thus you are an enabler. Either stop whining and take the next step, or don't whine because you are just as culpable as they are.
There is recourse. You not being willing to take that recourse is your problem; not the systems. The option is there.
It's pathetic that your solution is to bitch in the comments rather than take serious action. Just as pathetic as it is for UMG to illegally claim videos.
@Polocatfan talk about shooting the messenger like a total dufus
18 likesCory Goodman it’s the equivalent of someone getting robbed. Except the robber leaves his home address, driver’s license, and phone number behind, and instead of going to the authorities, they go and bitch to all their friends about how they got robbed.
1 like@Awsometime exactly.
0 likes@CGoody Not everyone has the knowledge or the money to do that, so... can you really blaim them when they find they have no options for dealing with these asshats?
8 likesCory Goodman You're right, I guess I should just have the money and legal assistance to attack a giant company. I don't have those, but if I just start having them right now, everything would be fine.
22 likesIt now has 666 likes
0 likes@Randomly Entertaining Then we should assemble a warband to make UMG bleed for it. Anyone know a lawyer looking for a cause?
0 likes@CGoody I mean technically it's an unfair burden, but yes, we should be hurting UMG, even if it hurts us, however we'll need to unite. any 1 of us just doesn't have the money to take UMG.
2 likes@CGoody take the shot?...Shoot them? ...well one can't argue against the effectiveness, it worked on Carnegie, he changed his tune real quick.
3 likes@Blueberry Blues crowdfunding solves that, or lawyers who take a percentage after winning. Stop whining the same nonsense I've already answered. Unethical isn't inherently illegal, and there are solutions. Cry about it.
1 like@Tom Hill exactly. Talking as if nothing can be done is in of itself a problem. As a community, there are clearly ways to fight back. The problem is the community will talk about it, and don't actually do anything or try anything; they just incessantly complain.
2 likesNo one said it would be easy, but there is a way to fight back legally. It's up to us to do so, or support those that actually.... Take the shot
@CGoody Yeah, legally, heheh, sure buddy. I'm picking up what your throwing down. Though personally I'd start with ..."property value adjustment", then work from there.
2 likesBut yeah we fundamentally agree. Fight evil, until you win.
@Tom Hill if one is going to lay down at their feet when they attack, they really have no right to complain about it.
1 likeI mean, they can, but it's meaningless nonsense at that point
If someone crowdfunds a legal campaign against false copyright claims by large companies, I'll be sure to donate. Sadly, I have a feeling I'll be one of the few rather than the many.
@Polocatfan be like "heh, do you accept reddit karma?"
0 likes@Polocatfan so do murder, theft, piracy, and rape not happen anymore bc they're illegal
1 like@CGoody what if you can't afford a lawyer, and you don't have a law degree
1 like@clamdove for the millionth time; crowdfunding, or a lawyer who takes a percentage after winning instead of an hourly rate.
0 likes@CGoody An average person couldn't feasibly crowd fund anywhere near enough legal funds to fight the fucking music industry lol. A lawyer who takes a percentage after you win, you'd have to win first and after to those terms. You're not exactly being fair here.
1 like@Jordan Thomas very mature
0 likes@jbcooler ninja bruh its been a year my only point was companies do illegal shit all the time lmao
0 likes@Jordan Thomas no i said very mature cause you said joe mama
1 like@jbcooler ninja oh my bad!! Sorry bout that lmao
0 likes@CGoody have fun winning a court case against a billion dollar company.
2 likesNot even Phoenix Wright himself can save you.
THANK YOU!!!
0 likes@Vainglory the most they can do is drag it out; they cant change the facts of the case. A reasonable judge + a competent lawyer + a meritorious case + the will to deal with years of prolonging = a win no matter how much funding the opponent has.
1 likeEither you have a meritorious case and it's worth fighting to you, or you have no room to complain to begin with. Choosing to not hold those breaking the law accountable is as much of a problem as those breaking the law to begin with.
#BlessedGamerFromMars
0 likes@Jordan Thomas you're probably a little kid and the pfp isn't yours
0 likesIs war ready
0 likes@Awsometime except the robber is some mafia boaa. you wanna press charges against a mafia boss?
1 like@Aria Jacobs He's probably not old enough to have a job and doesn't realize how the real world works.
2 likesFalse. Not everyone has a verified mark to get that extra push.
0 likesI agree but would rather the websites just be fully liable for all content. That way companies are the one's suing YouTube, not me.
0 likesSucks for us just trying to make entertainment, but how much do you want them to actually pay for harassing us?
@Polocatfan what can they do
0 likesDab nb
0 likes@Jordan Thomas "just because they can't doesn't mean they don't"
0 likesThat doesn't make any sense
Guess just try it and keep in mind who it works with and doesn’t.
0 likesMen, am I right?
0 likes@CGoody man you really have no idea of how things work
0 likes@kondaresto I know far better than you do apparently
0 likes@CGoody Yeah, take serious legal action that will cost thousands of dollars. I’m sure most people can afford that, while also losing money off their check due to not getting money from the video they made. That’s a bad argument. YouTube is a multibillion dollar company, and they should protect the people who make the content if the company is going to collect so much revenue from creators.
1 like@Serious Saitama I explained my position; put up or shut up. Crowdfunding is a thing. You care so much, you should contribute in some way.
0 likesIf YouTube did that, they lose safe harbor privelage and they are liable for ANY infringement that takes place. YouTube shouldn't have to pay for your copyright legal issues. If you want that to change, you need to write to your lawmakers and tell them, because YouTube is simply doing what they must to not be liable for other people's infringement.
@CGoody This is such a cowardly take. You’re basically saying you think everything is perfect the way it is and shouldn’t change at all because you suspect that the company might be hurt by redoing their content ID system.
0 likesI’m saying that if YouTube is going to host and benefit off of content, it is also their responsibility to make sure copyright is used properly. They’re the host after all, and the content ID system is made for this. Problem is that it sucks because it auto-flags videos for having a second or 2 of said material. The system can’t actually distinguish between what is and isn’t transformative. Not to mention that there are tons of loopholes for people who ACTUALLY INFRINGE ON COPYRIGHT to do so with impunity. They should make it better, content ID is currently the bare minimum of what YouTube needs so that they won’t be held accountable in the event of a lawsuit.
@Serious Saitama No, that's not what I said. I said if you have a problem with the way things are, write to your lawmakers because they're the ones to blame, not youtube. People like you who put words in peoples mouths are insufferable.
0 likesIf I had a false copyright claim on content I made, you best believe I'd be putting my money where my mouth is, if only because of principle. I'm willing to take a loss over it. You should be too, and so should many others. The fact that people aren't willing to and continue to make excuses about why they aren't is pathetic.
@CGoody That’s the thing. Everything you’re saying comes with the implication that you believe the system is perfectly fine and shouldn’t change. And lawmakers can’t make YouTube change their copyright bot, which is what I’m talking about. Lawmakers also aren’t going to force YouTube to do anything directly, they write laws. People like you, who just hand wave arguments away with “just work to get the laws changed” or “throw money at the problem” are insufferable.
0 likesI can only read GFM comments in his voice and i cant stop
0 likes@CGoody lol you gonna foot that legal Bill if he loses?
0 likesFun Fact: The YouTube Copyright Metagame (Part 2) was already uploaded, but it got copyright striked and blocked in all countries.
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Disappointed, but not surprised.
192 likesReally?
41 likesThis has to be a joke...right?
131 likesI wouldn't be surprised.
41 likes*posted one week ago
37 likesnah
Alll that’s wack
11 likeswat
3 likesSad part is I can't tell if this is a joke.
110 likesCan't find any reuploads.
9 likeswow I didt know that you must have been a very luck man
2 likesIronic
0 likeskind of a stretch, but it wouldnt surprise me if it was true
8 likeslol
0 likesQjimbo No. EmpLemon would comment about this.
6 likesGuys, its an obvious joke. Cmon. Part 2 just got uploaded 2 hours ago
7 likesWell, it's truly up now :>
2 likesB R U H
1 likeI contributed the 666th like. Okay? Okay.
0 likesOMG, imagine if a company copyright-claimed a YouTube video, published by YouTube of course. :)
0 likesIT'S A CONSPIRACY MAN!
1 like+Sam Ebersman
0 likesWhen something gets striked everywhere, it happens instantly. It’s happened to me.
Huh i remember ut being out a week or two after part one
0 likesC o o l
0 likesironic
0 likestwitchtwotch69 glad someone reuploaded it don’t know why they decided to upload the rest of EmpLemon’s videos though
0 likesHow ironic.
1 likeIn all 248 countries of our planet
2 likesInsert the spiderman laughing journalist laugh meme*
1 likeUpdate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvFGumd_esg It appears that the original is unblocked now.
0 likesWhat
0 likesJESUS CHRIST
0 likesThe irony is that "reaction channels" who systematically steal other youtubers entire material are fine with youtube. But there are no alternative
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It's because of the human element. A YouTuber has to make a concious decision to strike another YouTuber's video, whereas rights holders don't, because it's all automated for them.
58 likesI saw a Youtuber who posted every single Wolfenstein song. I even saw someone put all of Toy story 4, but I guess it was allowed since it had a giant border around the movie.
13 likes@Nana that's not how it's works.
1 likePeople actually watch those?
3 likes@Bernie Epstein You mean reaction videos? Might not be as strong as before (dunno) but many of them had millions of views and made lots of money.
1 likeTechnically their facial reactions are unique, but their content wouldn’t exist without the video they are reacting to being uploaded first.
0 likesI wouldn’t call that stealing personally, but I would call that a video genre that is dependent on other uploads.
@Fries so you agree that over 90% of the sreen is stolen?
0 likesYes, but they also do something original in the 10% that isn’t stolen.
0 likesMoreover, unless it’s a video whose initial upload has been taken down, the reaction is the reason why you’d watch the video.
So I’d say it is, and isn’t stealing. It steals, but the unique reaction is why you’d watch one of those videos.
Not a fan of the genre personally, but that’s how I’d describe it.
@Fries If they react to bits then yes. But many show the entire clip without edit. So why would they watch the original then?
0 likes@San dro I see that argument.
0 likesGuess I was under the assumption that people would watch something before watching a reaction to it.
If all they did was watched reaction videos, then yeah, they’d probably not check out the original video (unless it was linked in the description and they clicked on it).
Even so, I would argue that someone’s reaction is technically original content.
@Fries As you might have guessed I was focused on the worst types. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Gde-5FRWA That sadly youtube allows. Reaction in of itself in original content. But like his example of someone showing his entire 18 minutes videos only adding "Shit this is a very long video" is not really what I call fair use. Imo reaction should follow same fairuse as all other content
0 likes@San dro For revenue and copyright purposes, in the scenario you mentioned (whole thing is in the reaction video), I think the uploader of the video being reacted to should get all of the money.
1 likeIf fair use occurs (say less than a specifically defined portion of the source material), then the original uploader and reaction channel should negotiate a percentage of revenue for both parties.
That being said, it is definitely unfair that reaction channels don’t really have to deal with the metagame when they are technically bootlegging content with minimal modifications.
Gaijin, the developers of War Thunder, use to copyright system to remove videos about their game they don't like and are very open about it.
317 likesMost recently, a guy did a video about rampant hacking in the community, the video was claimed and removed, and when called out, they said it was policy to remove any content that mentions hacks.
They removed something from a platform they don't own for their own internal policy. Nobody should have that kind of power, but here we are.
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but isnt it their right to defend themselves against libel as well?
2 likesCorparations are legally people too
That has nothing to do with a system that's sole purpose is to stop content theft.
64 likes+Don
55 likesIt's not libel if it's true. There is no legal recourse that allows for info to simply be dropped into the void because someone thought it was rude.
Look no further. Nintendo did the same with switch modding, blocked worldwide. The cause? 1st party game.
26 likesSee modern vintage gamer for info.
I have like 1400 hours I've never seen any blatant hacking
0 likes@Sam Nuell It's probably less obvious than you would think.
7 likes@Void of Space and Time still cant reccomend it enough
0 likes@Sam Nuell war thunder has a hellish amount of grinding.
8 likes@Void of Space and Time but its also free
0 likes@Sam Nuell I wouldn't call premo tanks free
7 likes@Sam Nuell A dog turd on the street is also free. Wouldn't wanna eat that though.
1 likeThat Donald Trump joker video never fails to make me laugh
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Say what you will about Trump, it's a super fitting joke for the clip. What he said sounds like something the Joker would say. Trump may not be threatening but I feel like the Joker could say it in a threatening way.
156 likesWhen I get rich I'm hiring Donald trump to act in a Batman parody. (if possible)
@ninjamonkey2251 you will never be rich
40 likes@Egg Cruncher I'm glad you have faith in me.
139 likesAnd it came from Trevor Noah of all places
8 likes@ninjamonkey2251 If you make the movie. Could you please reply me with a link so I can buy it.
8 likesIts funny because its true.
2 likes@F-35 Lightning 2 The world is an angry place
6 likesI love the soviet propaganda pfp
1 like@Egg Cruncher At least he believes he will get rich, what do you believe you will get? infinite robux?
2 likes@ninjamonkey2251 that means you'll go down when we all revolt
1 like@ninjamonkey2251 I believe in you, ninjamonkey2251. Just don’t forget me when you get rich
0 likes@tristan i believe in you Tristan! Dont forget me when ninjamonkey2251 remembers you
0 likes@The Artisanthe last one was so successful 😂
0 likesThe world is an angry place
0 likes@ninjamonkey2251 I have faith in you! 😁
0 likesYou should just copyright claim your own videos before the corporations do then you'll get the revenue
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epic
82 likesOwning yourself to own the corporations
356 likesMmmmmmm yes this is big brain time
185 likesNow, I truly want to know what would happen if you did this.
236 likes@Nolan Kanski Maybe emp will explain this in part 2, lol.
65 likesModern problems require modern solutions.
174 likes@Nolan Kanski Check out TheOriginalAce's video, believe he did that already.
37 likesYeah. This is big brain time.
20 likesSomebody has actually did this. I don't remember who the guy was, but it was a Minecraft youtuber
10 likestheoretically speaking, if you institute a claim against yourself with a dummy account, and some jackass company tries to claim it, would they not technically be stuck in a copyright deadlock, like what jim sterling uses, in that case?
25 likesHe usually does it by using copyright material enough that it triggers two different claims which neither will budge on, but how does that work if YOU use a dummy to do it?
Kiwifarm's owner Josh had a tactic where he'd play conflicting copyright stuff from two companies and it seemed to stop either from claiming it...It was fucking hilarious he'd slip two songs in because of that on his streams.
34 likesI’m pretty sure once you get claimed so many times your channel gets deleted
3 likesNow that’s what I call a pro gamer move
8 likesThe sad thing is,this might actually work.
6 likes@Joe Ç I guess that makes sense, although I do know that UMG, Nintendo and sony probably also have their own content owners. But yeah, i'm a bit more familiar with the system than most, not because i've personally ever had direct access to it, but because a former friend of mine had a friend who worked for an MCN and did have direct access. Not only is it automated and you're allowed to theoretically monetize anything that gets matched with virtually no consequences, but there's also a manual claiming tool which they can use to literally search for and claim videos.
1 like@Joe Ç Oh wow, I feel like I shouldn't be surprised by this, but I still am. So, you're saying that this shady company was hired and given access to UMG's content owner and used a bot to scan videos which they submitted via the manual claim tool? So basically, they're also automating the manual claims as well. I'm glad you're bringing this to light, because it explains a lot about why disputes are typically very time-consuming and why these companies seem to not care about fair use: because they hire other companies to handle this which they shirk the responsibility of and give to robots instead.
2 likesThis.....is fucking genius actually
1 likeI can't remember who, but I think a Minecraft YouTuber used his other account to claim it, and it worked.
1 likeif only it worked that way
1 likeYeah, what are they gonna do? Sue us??
4 likesIt’s not like they have money! Hahahaha
......
This man is a genius what the fuck??
0 likesBrilliant!
1 likeBig. Brain
1 like@Joe Ç Oppenheimer speech are claimed lel
1 likeAnd windows 95 slowed startup sound is claimed by somebody else not by microsoft
200 IQ play
0 likesNot using the same account I hope.
0 likesQuick before the devs patch it!
0 likes@Joe Ç would a captcha on the manual claims do anything ? I know they are not perfect
0 likesStaart your own corporation then copyright your own videos genius
1 likePro gamer moves right here.
0 likesReminds me of how Jim Sterling pit multiple companies against each other so none of them could get a cent off his videos.
0 likesElon Musk is that you?
0 likesOh shit is that actually a thing?
0 likesWhat if we started taking advantage of the playback speed setting, where the video is like - fast enough to bypass copyright, but if the video is on .5 speed we can watch the video in its source form
1 like@Ugly Bastard Seriously? Jogwheel got access? Good for him! He's the one behind Jon's World and Is It a Good Idea to Microwave This and Movie Night, if I recall correctly. I should go watch some more of his stuff again. Thanks for the reminder.
1 like@Ignat Remizov yup, he made a whole video talking about the system and how it works from both sides.
0 likesHow do I copyright myself?
0 likesModern problems require modern solutions.
0 likesLegit, I saw a video on it. Then you get at least some revenue if it is copyright claimed.
0 likesHow is this done? Feels like a paradox.
0 likes5000 iq move.
0 likesThere's actually an exception to "Bootlegger".
289 likesWhile it's true that a lot of full episode uploads aren't exactly legal, there are companies who have uploaded full episodes of their shows. In master quality too. Whether it be to thier own channels, or a sister channel for that show. It is hard to tell the difference at times, but it is legal since they DO own the rights.
These channels include WildBrain (LazyTown, The Super Mario Bros. Super Show, Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Johnny Test), TreehouseTV (Little Bear, Franklin, Max and Ruby, Rolie Polie Olie), and of course, channels like Sesame Street and Peppa Pig.
If you ask me, I'd put that somewhere between "Mr. Clean" and "Cold Turkey". While they don't get taken down because of Content ID (they rarely get taken down at all), what usually happens is that the people running the channel block them in certain countries because the distribution rights holder for that country suddenly decided to change thier minds. And it isn't illegal at all because, once again, they own the rights.
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you aren't talking about the company's host distributor in that country because it's stupid to even think that company's host going to have more control over rights then the parent company, Then doesn't the distribution rights holder also holds the rights of the show in their country?!!! And also if the owner(who wants to upload the show globally) has just the rights of their show in USA and not copyrighted the material in any other countries or top on that sold it's copyright to other country's distribution rights holder, like an idiot then it doesn't make the company guilty who sold their rights and now wanna have full control over that material....
2 likesShit. Had no idea I could re-watch max and ruby for free.
3 likesI'm gonna be right back.
That was mentioned in the video.
1 likeThat’s a valid category on the spectrum. You could call it the rights holder uploading it where they can.
3 likesI’d also argue that there is a third variant of the bootlegger called the “abandonware bootlegger”.
This is not to imply that uploading an obscure piece of media is any more legal than a well known one, but there is one thing I would argue:
If what you are bootlegging is old enough (say at least a decade old), and is something that doesn’t really have any commercial viability anymore, then the odds of it staying up increase because the company behind it is less likely to be relying on that content as a significant source of revenue.
He gave the example of Family Guy funny moments compilations. That would be a “Material Bootleg” if you will because that is a fairly well known program (and in particular one that is still in production).
If every single Family Guy episode ever produced was uploaded to this site for free, then the companies that syndicate its reruns would probably lose out on significant revenue.
Take for example MatchGameProductions.
A YouTube channel that uploads complete, full episodes of Match Game (the 70’s run, the 1990-91 version and currently the Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour from 1983-84).
All older versions of a game show, the 70’s and early 80’s versions are reran on television right now, but might not be popular enough for a company to rely on them for significant revenue, and in the case of the 1990 version, it hasn’t been reran on television in 15+ years.
In spite of all the copyrighted material, that channel continues to feature daily uploads after nine years I believe.
Do you think the obscurity of the bootleg impacts the likelihood of it getting taken down?
That's not Bootlegging by default. That is the property they created. It's Mr Clean.
2 likesIt should be Mr. Clean, with the one exception being that it could be blocked in some territories depending on rights.
0 likesI personally like one of Jim Sterling's tactics, where he throws in as much assorted footage as possible and just lets the multiple different claimants duke it out.
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Sterling made their own Hunger Games
12 likesThe Corpo Games!
XD
(I love every Sterling Character!)
Person: breathes
962 likesYoutube: did you just breathe the air that those trees made?
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That's exactly what they'd do too
11 likesYou breathed the air that came from the trees that grew in the soil that we were planning to dig up to pave paradise and put up a parking lot.
23 likestrees: You're getting PAID?
9 likesNO BREATHING IN MY LOBBY
4 likesWHY ARE THESE FOOLS STILL BREATHING MY AIR?
3 likesI'm sorry, but breathing is now copyrighted, and you have to pay 1 trillion dollars to breathe.
3 likesgay
2 likesNO BREATHING IN MY PLATFORM! THATS RIGHT! YOU HOLD IT OR YOU DIE !
3 likes@Diego Moreno yag
1 like@fluteboystump 1 No, the tree would claim it.
1 likeYoutube: now ALL the money you earn belongs to the trees
1 likeLol
0 likesIkr
0 likes“The cold turkey is very similar to Mr. Clean”
58 likesOut of context, this quote is unintentionally hilarious.
We migrated to YouTube to escape from the overreaching TV corporations
2203 likesYet they still found a way back
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That's capitalism for ya
113 likes@Ecrivon Lunyx
130 likesAnd socialism will somehow fix this? I also blame us for continuing to deal with youtube's bullshit. We have alternatives. Bitchute is a really good website being supported by very big youtubers yet people still refuse to migrate.
@Gary Oak there is no little guy anymore
15 likesI prefer vlare
1 like@Ecrivon Lunyx a capitalist system would entail there being zero regulation. Copyright - an invention of regulation - is the problem, so thus this has little to do with capitalism and a whole lot to do with crappy regulations. Ironically a completely capitalist system would look like youtube prior to the creation of the copy ID system.
54 likes@Kodeb8 Talk about bitchute more. I literally have never heard of it. The internet is a big place, and not everybody has had enough time to find the good shit! If you find something awesome, make a video, and leave comments like this! I'll check it out right now.
8 likesI'm just hoping when the next thing is coming
4 likesYouTube became the thing that it wanted to stop.
10 likes@Vallis Daemonum Yeah, no. Bitchute is trash in every way imaginable. Poor video quality, tons of misinformation and sensationalism, garbage search engine. Just forget it.
10 likes@Owl TeaGames I know! And yeah, bitchute is great. It's a completely uncensored youtube (aside from porn and illegal stuff) Video creators can get payed through a donation button. And like I said, there are many sizable youtubers who upload there too as a backup site. In my opinion though, youtubers should give a bigger reason to go there, such as making bitchute exclusive videos or something. If bitchute succeeds in being a true competitor to youtube and a threat to youtube's relevance, then either youtube is forced to improve their website, or we all just move to bitchute. The only real downside I can see to bitchute is the fact that extremely alt-right white nationalists make videos there. I don't have a problem with those people expressing themselves (even if I don't agree with them), but I can see how that could damage bitchute's image with the general audience, and might be a turnoff for big youtubers wanting to migrate. On the other hand, the fact that they allow such content is proof that they aren't biased towards censoring anyone, which might be a good thing for some youtubers.
3 likesEver heard of a site called Vlare? It's a great alternative.
3 likes@Extra Crispy it won't. Media would just find a way to defend themself. For exapmle internet providers would probably get paid some for straight up blocking infringing notoriusly sites. Copyright Horders would have somewhat harder times I guess.
5 likesWe must migrate again then
3 likes@Principleship Coleoid in a world without copyright, youtube would have a whole lot more to gain by allowing people to just post copyrighted material for free than anything else. As the video stated, the site was literally built off of the demand for it to some degree. If the businesses are paying youtube millions or billions of dollars, then maybe they might fold, otherwise however they won't since they would have a lot more to gain by simply ignoring them.
9 likes@Extra Crispy That's what happens when you put a Susan in charge
4 likes@Vallis Daemonum l
0 likes@Ecrivon Lunyx ik you people just LOVE that saying but how about you delete that reply sport. It doesn't work here.
1 likeRedMatter Well copyright is but a way to protect a form of private property that is 'intellectual'. Copyright law, something pushed by large corporations, is a completely capitalist invention just as lawful protection of the private ownership of any other means of production is, i.e. the protection of private property.
1 likeEcrivon Lunyx lol It seems like you angered some folks here by pointing out the elephant in the room.
0 likes@OneManTyranny Yeah, Vlare has a much better "Search Engine", and atleast has 720p HD Quality. So, the videos are watchable.
1 likeOf course, youtube for a time was becoming bigger than TV and the news outlets started to become second hand as people would get the news which matched their opinion from their chosen youtube personality or channel. The whole "Adpocalypse" horseshit had nothing to do with protecting the integrity of brands. It was about protecting money and social control. It's horrifying how easy people are controlled.
1 like@Kodeb8 Socialism will fix this by violently murdering a bunch of people, presumably many of them will be overreaching TV corporations. After that we can tear down socialism and replace it with capitalism again. Think of it like a detox, only more effective.
0 likes"You could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? Back to me."
1 likeThat's what happens when you let them pay all the money that runs this site via ads
1 likeVimeo time.
0 likes@Vallis Daemonum it'll only be a haven until it gets big. Thats what happens. Corporations are those guys you don't invite to parties or let them in on the joke. Cause you know if they get it they'll ruin it. Happened with YouTube and the internet as a whole. Corporations are slowly pushing us off a cliff, inch by inch. Eventually unless we stop corporatism we will run out of cliff and plummet into a deep abiss
0 likesBoycott YouTube
0 likes@Vallis Daemonum what's a bitchute?
0 likes"this video is blocked in 248 countries"
488 likesWell jokes on you I live on the moon take that UMG!
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well screw myself too, I also live far away from the moon, mars
8 likesHA
7 likesI Live In Another Galaxy And A Different Dimension!
Jokes on you, i live in another dimension
1 likeUMG does not believe that the Moon is the common treasure of mankind. It owns many, many pieces of music about it. As such, it holds the copyright of the Moon.
13 likesThe Moon is an American State.
2 likesAlexey Saranchev I could be completely incorrect but I heard from somewhere a really long time ago that America partially owns the moon, I don’t remember where but I do for sure remember it was a very credible source
0 likesI also live on the moon, and I can confirm it's only been blocked on Earth, but we can watch it here on the moon.
1 liketheyre gonna block it on the moon too
0 likesI hope in part two you bring up Jim Sterling and how he created a "copyright deadlock" on his videos so basically none of the claiming companies get any revenue
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Yeah, that's a clear metagame response to the situation.
11 likesHow did he do that?
2 likes@Lilaniloxi in short, he used copyrighted material from both companies which usually take the revenue and companies which prevent you from getting any revenue.
22 likesI know I am super late to this video, but as someone studying media production... yep, once attended a seminar on copyright for extra credit, was met with a discussion on claiming people using your content on YouTube. From everyone in my class to you all, we are about as soulless as you think we are because the industry beats the desire to care out of you.
24 likesIn all seriousness, this is why I changed my mind away from working in film and tv, to radio.
Emplemon: "you don't have to respect the bootlegers."
82 likesMe: "ALL HAIL THE BOOTLEGGERS!!!"
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Intense Trumpet Solo
1 likeFact: I stopped doing YTPs in 2013 because one of my King of the Hill parodies was flagged a dozen times, and even caused my account to receive a copyright strike, which hindered my ability to upload newer videos at the time. Also, a friend of mine who's an indie horror filmmaker once uploaded a short film he made which had a 100% original soundtrack that was composed by another friend of ours. His video got automatically copyright claimed by some EDM artist in Japan, because one of the notes in my friend's soundtrack sounded similar to the same synthesizer used in the Japanese channel's song. Thus, they put ads on his video and gave all of the revenue to the EDM musician in Japan.
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@Yudron Micros What I've been doing is using FL Studio to make chiptune remixes of preexisting songs – current music and classical – blended together with orchestra instruments. For example, my Nintendo Mosaic Deconstruction video has a long song that's a remix of classic NES songs mixed with classical instrument synthesizers.
81 likes@Baron Julius von Brunk How different are they in terms of composition? I've done chiptune covers that get claimed no matter how different the instruments sound, it just detects the song structure instead, I think.
24 likes@Dv2 It varies, honestly. I'd the say the majority of my chiptune songs are completely 8-bit with no additional synthesizers or instruments. Most of my chiptune covers never got claimed, but a few did: "Black Hole Sun" by Soundgarden, "Dogs" by Pink Floyd, and "Heart Shaped Box" by Nirvana all got claimed and my ad revenue was funneled to their record companies. I also got my chiptune cover of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" claimed by Disney, but I filed an appeal to prove that the song was actually a public domain classical music song, and not the specific song from Fantasia.
31 likesWhat a fucking joke this place is at least they are monetizing everything they can even though they are making a ton of money
24 likesYou can sue, you know.
11 likesOne of my original pieces (a classical piece) got copyright claimed by some psychadelic band from the 60s for having a literal second of something that didnt even sound similar.
18 likesFrom what ive heard, youtube's copyright system is more the fault of them having to rigidly follow the DMCA, rather than from youtube's own choice. From the way the US copyright system is made and since youtube is an american company, there's very little they can do when a video is claimed, they pretty much have to follow the claimant's request. Youtube has to do this or face legal wrath.
4 likesCould someone research this for me? I dont even know, and wikipedia is written too hard for me to understand it
@average fan enjoyer Do your own research? Just a thought.
5 likesIt has become increasingly difficult to make YTPs of content that I want to use because of this exact reason. Sure I could use some obscure video from 1997 that 3 people have seen and has no copywrite but what's the point? I would love to make more YTPs but more often than not they get flagged for a few seconds of some bullshit. Then most appeals get denied because they don't give a FUCK.
2 likesYTPs are an art form, and youtube is killing them.
@Lazys The dank engineer [BACK] if you watched the same video i did it even explains how suing somebody is so much more expensive and you's end up losing more money in the proscess, especially considering that they aren't even in the same country as you.
2 likes@Definitely Not Joeds i commented before that, sorey
1 likeThis is why globalisation doesnt always work.
5 likesMeatballBagel upload them on bitchute and link to them from YouTube using the announcement feature then, there’s nothing stopping you from breaking free of j℮wtubes chains.
3 likes+Cao
1 like*Never works
@Void of Space and Time well, you need poor farmers from the 3rd world to get you cheap rice.
2 likesHow you doing bro
1 likeYoutuber: literally just has a blurry copyrighted poster in the background that appears for less than 2 nanoseconds
167 likesYoutube: Your fool driven life has stopped at this point, we are not sorry
Thank God we have people like you to explain this to us.
5 likesThx Lemon.
I’d like to appreciate the early YTP creators, you’re the key factor of why memes exist and why I like memes at all.
5 likesI guess you can say that the copyright system is going on a
35 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL
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Ah..ahm..yeah
1 likeSo is the rest of the legal system.
1 likeWaaaaay back in the day, like no more than a year into YouTube's existence, I decided to upload my favorite clip from Late Night with Conan O'Brien. I didn't know anything about copyright laws and was under the impression anything was fair game. I ripped the clip from a file sharing website and very proudly uploaded it. 24 hours later I didn't just receive a copyright strike from YouTube, I received a cease and desist type email from NBC Universal threatening me with legal action. It scared the crap out of a young me and I immediately deleted the video.
2 likeshey Emp, I’ve been a fan since the old YTP days and I just want to say your content has taken an amazing turn. I’m way more excited for new YouTube geographics and rant stuff, it’s much more interesting. What’s important though is that you have fun making the stuff you’re making, not curving your videos to appeal to masses, and I really respect that from any kind of YouTuber nowadays.
2 likesthank you, for extremely good content.
I give this a lot of thought being that I love Nintendo and use copyrighted stuff all the time.
8 likesI made a fan edit of someone's bird and it was a positive video made as a gift. People that were obviously viewing the original bird video the clips were taken of from Facebook just came by and called me a theif and I talked about both fair use and the fifth factor transformative use. To no avail, why I think debating the topic with minion loving facebookers will bring about any intelligent discussion is failure on my part lol
Anyhow, I hope you cover fifth factor transformative use in the next video because it's one of the most important additions to fair use law for us that live on the gray area.
Thank you, Emp, for all your hard work
2 likesYou explaining in great detail exactly how the Copyright system is terrible is the most gratifying thing in the universe. Love ya EmpLemon.
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HEAVENS LOST PROPERTY PART 10 WHEN?!
0 likesWhat we really need is an explicit definition of determining if something still has commercial viability.
0 likes"The YouTube COPPA Metagame," coming in 2020
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Nah.
0 likesIt doesn't feel like it's only been since September. I can't wait much longer for your part 2!
5 likesBless your soul mate, I wish I had the audience and energy to go through the effort of making videos like these
3 likesI have rewatched this series of videos more times than i would like to count. This trilogy of videos is just fucking amazing.
0 likesI'm sorry your video includes the word "the", which is copyrighted by UMG
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U:nknown
100 likesM:eme
G:riefer
At least it's not OSU.
28 likesAt least he didn't used the words "downward spiral" which belongs to EmperorLemon
22 likesThomasTurner69 the u in umg music should stand for unfunctional not universal
6 likesW U T
1 like@Evan Gorsuch The university OSU or the game osu!
6 likes@Epic Despacito Gamer THE Ohio State University tried to copyright "the" unironically recently. But, osu! is even scarier.
17 likesYour comment includes; "the"
4 likesThomasTurner69 reported by Viacom
2 likesUniversal Money Grabbers
3 likes@Wilm Hosenfeld ?
1 likeThis is like the Fine bros debacle all over again
0 likesso does your sentence, it's gonna get claimed
0 likesBruh, why are you in like half the videos I watch?
2 likesGameMaker 3_5 yare yare daze
0 likesUr video my now bye bye
0 likesEvery single letter in your sentence is owned by a music company or movie company. You are going to jail for repeated acts of copyright infringement!
2 likesYo r comment contains the twenty-first letter of the alphabet, which is c rrently copyrighted by L b L b!
1 likeHave a nice day.
What T H E hell?
0 likesfettucini
2 likesYour reply contains “police”. This word has been claimed by BeSt. (Beanstalk)
I'm sorry, but your video contains the words "Cinco de Mayo" which is copyrighted by the Walt Disney Company.
2 likesFine Bros*
0 likesThis comment has been copyright claimed by DIO
1 like@MSAmber now you did
0 likesImagine if word "the" was ©️.
1 likeIt's most used word in English language.
I'm sorry, but your comment also contains the forbidden word. We're suing you for $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
0 likesim sorry but your comment includes "the", wich is a word copyrighted by UMG
0 likesLol
0 likesHow the fuck am i supposed to- D'OH!!!
0 likesWhy do i see you all over the site
0 likes“Latte” is copyrighted by All Foods incorporated.
0 likesIt’s from cyberpunk if you don’t know
Reactors: Laughs in bland content
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They wouldn't laugh, they would just nod
6 likes@Roaxial they wouldn't nod, they would groan while wating their cereal.
0 likesComing back to this series after awhile; always impressed by the research and scripting you do Emp. Love your downward spirals, hope you feel it's worth it !
0 likesI poured hundreds of hours into making a 3 part documentary about Pride Fighting Championships, only to have Part 2 get blocked 4 months and 100k views AFTER it had been uploaded. The appeal system is ridiculous. If the UFC took my video down, how in the hell is appealing to them to reinstate it going to work? No one was watching an hour long documentary as a way to circumvent paying the UFC money to watch an 8 minute long fight, the video was 100% in the category of fair use and transformative, but as long as the copyright holders are the people who decide whether or not a video stays up, creators who use copyrighted works stand ZERO chance of getting their stuff unblocked
2 likesMan, that old school YT logo makes me so nostalgic. Back when you could watch entire cam rips of films that were STILL IN THEATRES just broken into a couple of separate parts. Goooood times.
0 likesGood insight however I do not appreciate your venomous slandering of the ABSOLUTE MASTERPIECE that is 009 Sound System - Dreamscape
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This post was made by 009 Sound System gang
48 likesI didn't expect seeing Triple-Q around here
8 likesAyy didn’t think you’d be here Q
5 likesKfaD intensifies
1 likeWhooOoooooOOOOOOoooOoooOooooo-OoooooooOoooooo00000Ooooohh
4 likeshow to unlock luigi in super mario 64
1 likeThey also did the masterpiece that is Trinity.
3 likesDarude-Sandstorm
1 likeHadn’t heard of that until this video.
0 likesCool song
And this is one of the reasons why I'm glad to be a composer: it's really damn hard to claim original music
0 likesRandom claims on videos for smaller channels are scary. Going through the appeal process for fair use work is ridiculous
1 likeThe viddoe style is so freakin creative! Like im madly impressed n inspired!! Much love and respect, and very appreciated info!
1 like#downwardspiral
I legit love all of your sponsored segments; they're always fun!
1 likeIt'll be interesting to see how this situation evolves. It's definitely a problem that rights-holders claim videos for instances of fair use... but then there are also channels like yours that just indiscriminately use anyone's music they feel like for background ambiance, completely abusing fair use yourself.
0 likesThis is my third time watching this, but the first time actually taking it in now that I've started to make videos. Thanks for the tutorial Emp!
0 likesSome of your finest work here, Lemon Daddy.
0 likesNow give me the part 2 I deserve.
I realize now what i find so appealing about your channel. The well versed and informed content that you do. It took me a while but it had finally hit me, theres another youtuber who does archives for speedrunning world records, Summoning Salt, his videos are like documentaries the way he formats them. While i was watching your Dale Earnhardt video you had used the same musical transition he does for most of his videos and it clicked. (around the 25 minute mark if anyone cares) tl;dr Thank you for producing higher quality content thats well researched and versed.
0 likesdude i love your channel. Whether it is ytp or complaining or ranting its always the best content
0 likesYour usage of "Good Lord, what is happening in the there?" at the beginning is probably one of the best edits I've ever seen.
7 likesI would love to see how much someone can get a video claimed by as many companies as possible.
0 likesThe Jim Sterling "copyright deadlock" is one of my favorite ways to fuck with companies.
0 likesTalking about Copyright and using Nintendo music.
4144 likesBold.
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Please don't tell me that's Melone ahegao.
96 likesWho the hell's Melone?
34 likes@Your Neighborhood Memelord Minor Jojos' Bizzare Adventure spoilers ahead.
56 likesThat's a minor antagonist from Part 5, Golden Wind.
Rip Jojo Fandom.
2 likesR.Mika
74 likes@Your Neighborhood Memelord I'd say a good chunk of it is comprised of spammers of the "Kono Dio da!" and "Muda × some large number" lines, but there's still a small faction that knows their way around some of the smarter memes, most of which come from areas that haven't been animated yet. (Think Parts 6-8.)
22 likesWhy in the flying fuck did you choose Melone for the ahegao pic when you could have choosen Trish or Speedwagon
14 likesBecause it's actually R.Mika from Street Fighter.
111 likesUnderstandable have a great day
29 likesTaser Tag Malone’s mask is purple, That’s Rainbow Mika from Street Fighter.
10 likes@Kid Buu Thanks a bunch. I haven't played Street Fighter much lately.
12 likesNgl not all the colour palettes in JJBA can be considered canonically correct, so I've seen characters in quite a few shades now.
Taser Tag I think that Rainbow Mika
1 likeUnderstandable, shits real in JJBA when the sky turns yellow.
16 likesIt's Blanka, shes getting electrocuted at the same time.
9 likes@IspamObjection That's all of part 4 you're talking about. I mean, Giorno's outfit is canonically both blue and pink. I don't mean he switches between them, I don't mean it's a two-colored outfit, I just mean it's either consistently pink or consistently blue. But not both at the same time.
3 likesIn JoJo, color isn't real.
Oh yeah I am aware of that, morioh yellow sky was the first thing I could think of when it came to very apprant examples of colour and not giving a shit in JJBA.
1 likeLowest common denominator jojo fans don't even know the quality of R. Mika smh.
5 likesHe used Karn Evil 9 for a good few transitions, much safer than using in the court of the crimson king
2 likesNot everything is a Jojo reference.
3 likesI guess Im pretty much used to people using ahegao dp cause thats pretty much nothing to make a fuss about
1 likeAtleast its not a real life ahegao cause thats shit is just awful to look at
This part of comment section has been successfully derailed.
6 likes@hardlybreathe We don't talk about real life ahegao here.
0 likes@funni n original I don't remember melone wearing a blue mask
0 likeswew lads tbh HI WEW NICE TO SEE YOU HERE
0 likesI call it...
0 likesBold and Brash
IspamObjection I read "R.Mika" as Etika lawl
1 like@Taser Tag "Ngl not all the colour palettes in JJBA can be considered canonically correct, so I've seen characters in quite a few shades now."
1 likecough cough PANACOTTA FUGO cough cough
Why is this a conversation?
0 likes@Meek Someone called for strawberries? Yeah, they went mouldy.
0 likes@Taser Tag Evolution of Fugo:
2 likesManga: Strawberry
EoH: Swiss cheese
Anime: Moldy swiss cheese
@Meek Seems about right.
0 likes@Taser Tag Di... MOLTO!
0 likes@Taser Tag i refuse to watch that shit
0 likes@Taser Tag
0 likesJojo hell member?
@Your Neighborhood Memelord joe mama
0 likesI love hentai
2 likes@IspamObjection
1 likefirst, what is the original photo of your pfp?
second, what emp did was a bold move indeed. keep in mind, nintendo copystriked several youtube channels that uploaded extensions of their songs. although, i think they have been more calmer when it comes to copystriking people these days, idk
IspamObjection sauce?
1 likebold
0 likesNice pfp
0 likes@ziodyne44 I think Nintendo has always been lenient with the actual usage of music in their videos, especially ones ripped from Smash (whether it be because they're more accessible or because they're special remixes made for a single game series), but has wanted to crack down on the outright uploading of the full content (i.e: extended music rips). I remember being surprised back in 2014ish that videos I was watching used Smash Bros. Brawl music and stayed unmuted and untouched probably to this day while similar videos that used a single song from Halo would have the whole thing muted or taken down almost immediately.
0 likesI mean, Nintendo's a fascinating case with copyright claiming on YouTube in general given they were pretty slow to adopt the idea that lets players are more beneficial to their business than one would assume. Sometimes it just feels like they aren't entirely sure how the system they've been given works and isn't able or willing to exploit it as much as the music corporations are.
Oh and for sauce for the pfp, go on gelbooru and type in "rainbow_mika blanka" and it should be in the first line of results
I snort Jojo like crack and even I know that wasn't Melone, he doesn't look anything like that
0 likesI once uploaded a four hour movie made by myself. In a five second scene someone sang the first line of the hymn of the 101st airborne military unit. It is not even copyrighted. Bamm, got blocked.
2 likesYou know what I want to know?
0 likesDo YouTube sponsors actually look at the ads people put out for them and review those? Because if so then Emp should get more of a cut for that NordVPN one.
The worst part about this is that it seems so easy to fix. In the 'claim screen' (not a creator, clearly), you can see what percentage of a video contains copyrighted content. YouTube could just make it so companies can only claim monetisation, removal, etc, if that percentage is over a certain number, and that number would be affected by the genre a video is put into, eg. Gaming: 15%, Movies/Film/Review/Music: 45%, Education: 30%, ect. This way, if the claimant wanted to claim anything below that number, they would be the ones who would have to file an appeal with YouTube to claim the video. To make the system slightly more balanced to prevent bootleggers from having the material being 30% and then something else for the other 70%, copyright holders can manually review videos that are under the percentage limit, and file a more specialised appeal that is processed quicker/with higher priority to have the video removed.
2 likesThere are probably flaws with this system but it would surely provide a more even balance of power between creators, copyright holders, and the YouTube corporation, and the extra effort needed to demonetise or remove videos would hopefully discourage corporations from abusing the system as much while protecting Fair Use.
I wish we could find a way to fix this scenario. I wish we could stop the revenue claiming maybe by having the claim having to go through a jury of sorts.
0 likes2019 Youtube Rewind:
221 likesthis video is currently unavailable due to copyright claims.
yep. that sums up the year pretty well.
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*2012
11 likesMan this video is just incredible, probably your most creative idea for a series I’ve ever seen.
0 likesGreat content as usual. I really think YouTube is dying because they are slowly pushing creators down, while propping up companies. I hope a new medium comes our way where we don't have to worry about being throttled, or copyright striked. Keep it up.
0 likesEmp has done it again.. he has lost it completely with yet another good video, glad to continue watching his meme like persona
0 likesI would love to see a load of smaller youtubers band together and instigate a class action lawsuit over the Content ID system. Because it's clear the system is not upholding the idea of fair use.
0 likesThe story arc has finally come to its resolution.
972 likesNOW we know why the Simpsons are green
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The true EmpLemon OGs knew it all along
95 likesbut he already explained why they are green
39 likes@Cargo guessing it's to fool copyright claimers
30 likes@Cargo that's literally it lol
10 likes@Cargo I'm not joking
3 likesBlue
0 likes@jsweeney7359 Big oof, he was trolling you realize...?
4 likesIt seems we may never truly know the answer to why the simpsons are green.
3 likesBut why is the DOWNWARD SPIRAL green?
He already explained that in his podcast tho
0 likesI really like your videos because you have so much nuance. You actually inform people on every stance of your topic. There is such a flood of "This is the BEST/WORST thing ever" that its fresh to just speak objectively and tell me both the good AND the bad.
0 likesI'm really enjoying these more comprehensive videos of yours. also that We Are Happy Landfill sample around 13:27 made my day. I love that song. Anyway keep up the good work.
1 likeI' amazed that paying to secure the rights is never, ever discussed as an option in videos like these.
0 likes"We'll dwell into it in part 2"
6 likesInb4 YouTube creates a system that can find copyrighted materials through simple filters like color changes
Remember the time a guy uploaded hours worth of white noise, and got a copyright claim?
985 likesYeah...
That pretty much sums it up.
EDIT: My mistake. It was 5 claims.
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It got copyrighted by me since I invented silence
137 likesYou Serious?
16 likesobviously hotpies invented it
25 likes@indeepj
30 likesYeah... I'm serious.
It was actually covered on the news, too.
Give Me Evidence Of It, Please, I Want To See Evidence
7 likesWhen you feed literal random noise into a program designed to find patterns, it tends to produce spurious outputs yeah.
19 likesThere were examples of gibberish being typed into Google translate and things like news articles being output.
@CODMarioWarfare can confirm. Found archives of several newspapers, one dating back to 1930 communist propaganda
15 likessillyname396 WTF
1 likeIf it wasn't claimed by Simon & Garfunkel's label I'll be disappointed.
3 likes@CODMarioWarfare PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO DO THIS, IT’S FOR THE MEMES
0 likesEmp I gotta be real with you
1 likeIf you make that episode 2, YT will use it against you and others
(great video though, I loved the Internet Historian mention)
I like how you put as much copyrighted stuff in this video as possible
1 likeAlternative Title: There will Never Ever be a good copyright system on YouTube
2 likesI'm really curious on why the hue shift tricks the Content ID bots, I mean, isn't it as easy as just desaturating the victim video and comparing it to a desaturated version of the source material?
1 likeYoutube is basically a feudal system, except at least in feudal societies the peasants usually received military protection for their work.
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“The slave of the past have food and shelter because their master have interest in a somewhat functional workforce, the today working class don’t have this” Karl Marx
19 likes@Diablo Rojo YouTubers rise up!
6 likes@SugaryHull first have to rise up artists and labels which work ( music, , movies) are illegaly uploaded on YouTube. Copyright was long long time before YouTube so copyright was here first. You all just think you can do whatever you Want , steal others property. Its not communism or soviet state . Its civilised world where ones property is ones property, not everyones. So yeah rose up and go on strike that you cant use others property anymore😂😂😂 feel free.
0 likesI just wanna say, your music taste is pretty solid. The meme theory video introduced me to both When The Levee Breaks and The Gates of Delirium, and two years on, seeing Karn Evil 9 here only confirmed my suspicions
0 likes16:07 There clearly should be a penalty for careless or fraudulent claimants abusing the system. After a specific number of false claims, the professed "copyright owners" ability to initiate revenue claims should first be suspended until they submit a detailed plan of action explaining why the false claims occurred and how they intend to improve their policies. Then, if it happens again, the company should be banned from YouTube immediately and indefinitely. If creator's have a duty of care to ensure that the material they;re using has either been cleared by its copyright owner or is permissible under fair use, then these companies should be held equally responsible for confirming that the material they are claiming ownership of is genuinely theirs to monetize BEFORE filing the claim.
1 likeAt least they can't claim revenue anymore. Thanks YouTube! The only good thing they've done.
1 likeWould the part 2 of this video actually expose all the tricks YouTube's use to sneak around the copyright system?
0 likesYouTube has betrayed what made it the most successful site in the world. It's users.
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Youtube barely breaks even for Google. It has to scrape as much money from the bottom of the barrel as it can.
41 likes@Daniel Bojkovski well maybe not in the sense of monetary success, but the concept of it becoming such a popular platform.
14 likes"You"Tube
9 likesI cant believe in 2022 we are still talking about fair use on youtube.
2 likesEmp, I see you use lots of STAR_’s old thumbnails. I think a lot of the old disenfranchised tf2 fans would love a video on stars rise and fall. As you referenced in a previous video. It would mean lots
9 likesI immediately stepped into No Man's Land and decided that I was going to use my channel and YouTube as a full time hobby, and not a full time job on my first edited video. I do not regret my decision, for I am happy and satisfied by my newer content I am working on so far.
0 likesSay it louder for the people in the back!
0 likesSeriously, though, this copywrong abuse is absolute B.S. Can't wait for Part 2!
as a content creator, legit can't wait to see part 2.
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NCHProductions ok :3
0 likesDidn't expect to see u here
2 likesIt’s banbaro time
3 likes:o its NCH
1 likehehe the 4chan city guy, nice
2 likesi like both of u :)
0 likesWhat the
0 likesAs an amateur blender user this frightens me I just want to make my blender Creations in peace! Dammit!
0 likesPart 2 is the best part
0 likesA youtuber: breathes
13 likesUMG: copyright strikes
Emperor Lemon should be the new CEO of Youtube. I'm certain he would make it at least 20 times better for creators than it is currently.
1 likeI'm almost tempted just to wait until part 2 comes out
0 likesI’m so excited for Part 2! Great Video!
0 likesIt's funny how youtubers are so quick to say "youtube is shit now" and "they only care about the money", but yet those same people continue to use the shit and of course their videos are monetized.
0 likesSounds like hypocrisy to me.
I have no idea how I'd never encountered your channel before today, but it's a damn travesty. You are good people, and I'm so glad this is my introduction to your work ^_^
0 likesPersonally I follow the Yahtzee method: just use still images and draw stuff on top, and you're home free!
4 likes...Of course my channel is also about one ten thousandth the size of his, but whatever.
Tom Scott followed this up with "YouTube's copyright system isn't broken, the world's is"
1 likeYou know it's bad when the Minecraft Redstone tuber gets demonetized
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Pixelcraftian poor mumbo
3 likesWell, he used parody of a transformed song or something like that... parodies are fair use but not if you are a YouTuber. I think it would be easier if we just started to use CC or some other fair use oriented licences.
4 likes@Principleship Coleoid No it's even more ridiculous than that. He had a friend compose his intro and outro, and the people that pulled a copyright claim on him based it on the fact that some of the samples used to make the song were copyrighted under them. Not even instruments are safe.
8 likes@mewnani thanks. I forgot story a little bit.
1 likeI've been dabbling in smuggling recently.
0 likesLooking forward to the next part.
Everytime I watch an Emp video I get deep seated nostalgia flashbacks to TF2 and it's orange box glory days.
0 likesMy favourite technique is the one that Jim Sterling used to stop Nintendo from claiming when he used their gameplay. He'd play Chains of Love at the end of the video so that it'd get double claimed and no one company could claim the revenue.
0 likesYoutube should just say to copyright holders that they have to prove that someone is affirmatively breaking copyright in order to steal revenue (the point of copyright: to protect revenue on IP), instead of the current system that assumes all use of copyright content is to steal revenue.
0 likesYeah. This is part of why I'm getting into law. They try this, it's gonna hurt them more than it hurts anyone else. Because THAT is the flavor of pain we need to stop this exploitation.
0 likesStrangely enough, I've had one of these situations before as an essentialy non existent channel over a steam hams edit before, where fox auto claimed my video even though it was an edit. however for some reason I decided to claim it with a valid reasoning and it got manually overturned by fox, so that was pretty weird.
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Fascinating
0 likesMy friend made a video which got a solid 48 views over the span of 7 months. It got striked by a music company, because of a 8 second audio clip.
3 likesRemember when reviewers were getting fucked left and right? While he’s pretty infamous, Mr Enter is a good example, almost all of his negative reviews of FOX shows were struck, but some of his positive reviews of their shows were fine, his negative reviews got struck but his positive reviews were good
1 likeYouTube: Broadcast yourself!
349 likesAlso YouTube: Broadcast yourself and have a big company steal your money or keep the video but take the money!
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This Is Why SimpleMoments Exists
0 likesThere needs to be a way to couter-sue for coppyright-claimers that violate fair use!
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As If Fair Use Would Be A Concept By Then, But, Yeah
0 likesWhat I think youtube should do for their copyright system is whoever is filling a claim for copyright has to type what there copying give the source and youtube sees if the claim is valid or not
0 likesMy opinion
I like the way that Yahtzee does reviews in Zero Punctuation. He has copy-paste characters that he makes slight edits on, and moves them around to describe what the game is about, along with his snarky British humor.
0 likesWell, that Nord VPN ad at the end didn't age well at all did it? Still, despite that I look forward to part 2. Hopefully it comes out soon, I know a Youtuber who could use it.
2 likesMy personal favorite is when a video is claimed by 30+ different companies.
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Mine is when I get claimed by a company that doesn't exist, for a song that doesn't exist! Then they go on to remove my video without me even putting it for review
9 likesMy favorite is for a song that was made like 200 years ago, its uploaded to youtube and it gets claimed by a non existent company. This happened quite a bit for songs that were featured in Assassin's Creed Black Flag. People uploaded the songs to just enjoy them and non existent companies put claims on them or got the audio for the video removed.
6 likes@Otaku Person those songs may have been written & composed 200 years ago, by the audio in which used and recorded was much more recent.
2 likes@C Porter True but then why didn't the people who composed the modern version of the music flag the video instead of a fake non existent one?
7 likesCrazee Lazee tbh it's better that way, they have to share the revenue 30 ways. The less money for these corporate scumbags the better.
0 likesBack in the summer of 2008, my older brother and his friends and I made a video to be uploaded to YouTube. My brothers friend decided to add in the song "Holiday" by Green Day when editing it. At one point, YouTube decided to mute the entire video all because of that one song, but a miracle happened. One day YouTube decided to unmute the video and it's still available to watch! I don't know if my brothers friend did something to unmute it or YouTube did something smart for once, cause his videos were not being monetized.
1 likeThis was fantastic. Great job.
0 likes-Youtube Audio
20 likes-2009
-Evanescence
Damn what a time to be alive
I cannot wait for part 2!!!
1 likePersonally, I think that the spectrum you introduced, should be something used as a classification method for YouTube videos.
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Jared K I think of myself as a sort of “fair user” since I make content that uses material, but not solely the material.
0 likesAt this point, YouTube is TRYING to make everyone hate the website.
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That's the icon for R/cringetopia
0 likesKing James bond It is
0 likesI'll start watching Vimeo instead
1 likeYou're half right. It's more that they're more concerned with stopping Trump in 2020. So much so that they WILL burn this platform to the ground. Remember their own words. By. Any. Means. NECESSARY.
3 likesTru
0 likeswhat are you talking about hes been doing this since his "YouTube's been on a downward spiral" video
0 likesI wish there was an alternative to YT
0 likesWhiplash Athetos
0 likesI dont think youtube censors political content because they have an agenda to push. I think its just that political content is not ad friendly, proven by the fact that left wing and right wing channels both suffer
@Daniel Bojkovski Did you not read what I just wrote? By. Any. Means. NECESSARY! They don't care who gets hit, they don't care how far they have to go. Anything to stop Trump. Also, friendly reminder. If they try to Impeach Trump, which is looking like they're actually going to, it will fail. It'll be shot down by the Republican controlled Senate. You want to see REAL change in the world? Then don't let these monsters have their way.
0 likesWhat are you talking about. Media companies love them
0 likes@Whiplash Athetos did you not watch this video 🤦🏻♂️
0 likes@Mongo Poe Sorry, can't hear you over all the people that keep getting banned and removed by Youtube for "Having the wrong opinions."
0 likesNow that we are living in a world were YouTube is letting QuantumTV get away with what he's doing, this video hits significantly harder
0 likesReminds me of the good old days before metacafe uses monetization. There is all sorts of garbage in there and it was fun to surf.
0 likes2:30
0 likesWait, was this the actually reason why this song popped up SOOOOOO MUCH in older YouTube videos? Did they need to replace most of the copyrighted song back then with this? 😮
The thing I’d like to thank you for the most is the use of Persona 5 music. Definitely one of the best soundtracks of all time for my favourite RPG.
1 likeWhen life gives you Lemons, I watch it.
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Now that is epikku.
3 likeswhy do you watch my lemons :( watch your own
2 likeswhen life gives you a lemon party..
5 likesIs it ogre though?
1 likeYou give it a crown and watch it from wherever even if it's on the other side of earth. Unfortunately you need wifi to watch the lemon.
0 likesWhen life gives you lemons don't make lemonade, make life take the lemons back!
1 likeI'm also the 420th like of this comment
This guy used Nintendo MKwii music to talk about copyright... you brave man
7 likesI've had playlists of old music uploaded from 3rd party youtubers that loved their music. Around half the playlist was claimed, finding them again is impossible due to the niche Trance genre. The original artists don't even upload their music pasts itunes. Set sail to the bay
0 likescopyright law covers transformative uses of copyrighted material under the concept of derivative works. While agree to an extent that the interpretation of this concept probably could use some relaxing, it is there for a reason
0 likesThis is the first I've heard of your channel, but I got mad respect for your usage of the SSBM music. 10/10 choice, chief.
0 likesCopyright on YouTube has gotten so awful the last couple of years, and all they care about is removing a check mark for a grey background, which only makes things worse
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Hey its this guy hes everywhere
0 likesshoutouts to tom scott for showing that half of what companies are doing is legal despite the fact that the situation is still stupid either way
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do keep in mind that i say half because the other half of whats going on is in fact illegal
1 like8 SECONDS OF BLACK SILENCE TITLED READ DESCRIPTION GETTING COPYSTRIKED LEGIT HOW
What I find kind of funny is that there are still Youtube uploads featuring full un-edited songs and albums that have been on the site for at least a DECADE.
0 likesExcellent work, and the ELP track was a rly nice touch!
1 likeMy football coach told me something similar to this situation: “EVERYONE HATES US ABD I FREAKING LOVE IT, WE’RE NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR THE REFEREE TO BAIL US OUT.”
0 likesYouTube is off its rocker, the copyright nonsense Never ends. It’s never ogre
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Lightning Cayo Rolling rock! roll and rocker!
1 likeTill it’s ogre
3 likes@Lightning Cayo m8 ur gonna get copystriked
0 likesIt's all onion now.
0 likesSeriously, I remember watching some of your early shit back when I was like in 8th grade. Just shit head poops. Never would I have thought that you'd make some of the best fucking introspectives on a cornucopia of topics that many of us are passionate about. And do it so well. I'm fucking happy.
0 likesCan’t wait to see EmpLemon make a vid about YouTubes new ad system.
2 likesDont upload part 2. you'll sell us out. Tell the enemy your tricks, and you seal your fate.
1 likePut the blade in the hand of those weaker then you, not those stronger.
11:41 "Closest thing to a crime syndicate you can find on YouTube"
0 likesTmartn: Allow me to introduce myself
I still think the beginning minute and a half of this video is both extremely genius and extremely hilarious.
0 likesGive this man a TV rant show. great vid mate
1 likeAs long as you willingly ignore that the copyright law is a negative in essence you deserve what comes your way
1 likeLmfao I lost it at, "WWE can suck a fart out of my ass"
1 likeAlso, you have to remember, they probably put some mostly uneducated, yet still degree-d, button pusher to just push claim or block and that's their whole job. Which is sad.
But, I would like to point out, that if you were to sue/counter-sue, whatever, at the VERY LEAST, if you could prove Fair Use and that their copyright claim was erroneous, you could at least recoup your legal costs and revenue loss. BUT, if you could prove their claims were negligent (they just made them, didn't watch them, didn't have an actual legal advisor determine they could claim copyright infringement) you could also sue for an amount for damages. IF you could prove their claims were outright MALICIOUS (they have done this to just about every single entry ever on the ContentID list - which you'd have to subpoena to find out) you could sue for a lot more damages, and maybe, if you found the right ambulance chaser (you know the type of lawyer) successfully initiate a class action against them at which point they would likely try to mitigate their damages by blaming YT having a faulty system. So either you get more money than you lost back, and a black mark against said company and/or YT fixes their shit.
youtuber: hums 2 seconds of a song
613 likesthis channel is no longer available
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This channel has been removed by the department of truth
18 likes@Daniel Bojkovski sounds Orwellian to me.
4 likes@Daniel Bojkovski Minitrue unallow indicated channel*
3 likesYoutube: You even hum for 2 seconds, your income goes BYE BYE, therefore leaving you homeless! Yay!
0 likes@Tomotato Yes. YouTube fair agree. Idiots speak YouTube unfair. Idiots like oldthinkers. Google correct like Minitrue. Google unever uncorrect. Google true, ever.
5 likes@The Potato Of 42 hahahahha
2 likesThat actually happened to a youtuber named Jared Dines. He got a copyright strike for humming "Smoke on the Water" by Deep Purple.
0 likes@Loonie The Moonie Deep Purple copystriked Jared? When? How the hell? I've never seen metal bands do that kind of thing!
0 likes@The Potato Of 42 It was UMG who issued the strike not Deep Purple themselves. I realize now after re-reading my comment how it could come across like that though. My bad.
1 like@Loonie The Moonie Thanks for clearing that up. UMG had gone full A-hole mode recently. Several places arebeing copystriked. I still remember how one guy hummed some random tune without knowing what it was and UMG copystriked him. Dear devil, this state of YouTube is worse than ever.
2 likesI will never use YouTube without adblock. If I ever find someone who really deserves my money I'll give it to them directly.
0 likesIs no one gonna appreciate how good the edit of putting YouTube on the NES was
0 likesI like that you use prog as your background music. It somehow matches the style of your videos
0 likesI think it's possible for you to have non copyrighted works in your video, but it BECOMES copyrighted. I remember ages and ages ago using a non copyrighted song for a video and years later i got a claim on it despite youtube suggesting it to me to use.
0 likesFriendship ended with WWE
1739 likesNow AEW is my new best friend
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I understood that referrence
28 likesAgree to you, once I see AEW Double or Nothing, I'm all in !
13 likesLet's go all out for AEW!
4 likes@Nismo Go Hell Yeah !
3 likesWWE killed emps goat
6 likesFacts bruh
0 likesAEW Hyped!
3 likesI also enjoy a little bit of the bubbly!
9 likesNice
0 likesYou mean Impact 2.0
1 likeA E DUB!
2 likesA E DUB!
A E DUB!
A E DUB!
A E DUB!
Only on the E for my homie Bobby Roode and Wyatt atm anyway. Everytime I see Seth Rollins or Lynch I want to gouge my eyes out tbh.
2 likesstop commenting
1 like@gligurr Now you just want to make me comment even more, thanks bruh
2 likes@Charlie Weddle Why not, though. I still enjoy WWE despite all the problems.
0 likes@Muammar Gibran I enjoy it for Roode and what they're doing with the Fiend. most of the others on roster are hit or miss for me. You do got some good talent like AJ and Bryan, to give credit where it's due though.
0 likesNewby Ton gay
0 likes@Muammar Gibran I can never imagine enjoying WWE with the problems it has going on rn.
0 likesI uploaded a few covers and an original song to YouTube (as private videos) for an audition. One of the covers was instantly copyright claimed and deemed unmonetizable (but not taken down) and my cover of Superstition and the ORIGINAL SONG THAT I WROTE WITH MY BAND were taken down a few hours later. YouTube didn't provide me with the reason but I didn't violate guidelines so idk
1 likeHoly crap, "We are Happy Landfill"? You just got a huge amount of respect from me, dude!
1 likeFantastic use of music on this one man, I instantly recognized every track!
1 likeEdit: Especially 19:38 XD
Didn't YouTube announce that they removed the ability for companies to claim a video, but they can still demonetize and remove them?
1 likeCan we just boycott youtube? Their pseudo-monopoly is disturbing.
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Jeff Bezos better get to expanding twitch to be a direct competitor to youtube
45 likesThe more creators move to LBRY, the more pressure we can put on YouTube.
13 likesWe blew our chance years ago.
25 likes'pseudo'-monopoly?
51 likesI think you mean just monopoly.
Youtube has 0 streaming competition. Newgrounds would be the only possible competition. But they are more of an indie focused streaming platform
24 likesHow? Where do we go?
5 likes@Maachen corporations took control. The love of money = corruption. Copyright is a free form of money essentially.
3 likes@Mr. Roombastic i was asking, "How do we boycott YouTube?" since they'res not any big competitors.
2 likes@Iron Bear this is too true, people always talk about content creators leaving their entire empire and work they have behind from youtube to swap platforms to make youtube change, but nobody is ever going to do it. the difference between youtube and e.g a teachers strike is one is small scaled and can screw over the students and such, and the other is the most popular streaming site online.
3 likes@Maachen we dont. Thats like asking, how do we boycott disney.
7 likes@TheVideoGamingChannel bitchute is just a shitty proprietary version of peertube tbh
2 likesno, because Google funds them
10 likesYoutube, in reality, is losing billions of dollars a year.
Pseudo monopoly is why we can't
1 likeThen you start hearing from companies' paid protesters about how they don't value free speech and they want something censored
8 likes@YouTubeUsername 'anti free speech protests' are the stupidest things ever.
5 likes@Smart Alec we truly live in the Soviet states of America
2 likes@I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter "The Fuck is LBRY?"
5 likes- literally The World
@Don S. MDT This guy gets it. It's not about money, it's never been about money with corporations. It's about power.
0 likeswhat are you going to do?
2 likesgo to vidlii?
We can't cuz u tube got not competition
2 likes@Faker Newgrounds.
0 likesuuum i meant a serious competitor, a more mainstream one, not that i dont know about newgrounds, but YouTube is full of normies, and only normies can beat normies when it comes to the consumption of media.
2 likes@Faker Well I'm afraid Newgrounds is the only shot you've got. They're the closest thing You-tube has to any real competition. I guess you could try Mumkey Jones website, but he'd have to host videos other then his own there.
2 likes@netizen Yes, so therefore we should avoid it instead of changing it for the better and stay in a platform whose daddy is in bed with the chinese government, and consistently becomes more hateful and hated of and by its creators and non prepubescent audiences.
3 likes@ChokeCJ I'd rather not use a platform that caters to the likes of Watson and Peterson, thank you. There are other sites.
1 like@netizen Suit yourself. What site would you goto?
0 likes@ChokeCJ Ah, you got me. I was bluffing, but I'd rather not pander to sites that openly promote the likes of Peterson, etc. I would use VidLii, but they don't have much storage, and from what I've gathered is hosted by themselves, which is why they crashed when NFKRZ made a video on them. I honestly haven't done much in terms of research on other sites.
0 likes@netizen What would help alot is a free market of Video Streaming sites, so its good not to stick with one.
0 likesi heard there's a raid on youtube on December 6th
0 likesYes. Use bitchute please
0 likes@Definitely Not Joeds metokur did and now hes the biggest guy on bitchute
1 like>pseudo
0 likes@Faker I don't understand how they've gone this long with no competition.
0 likes@Mr. Roombastic and plus, You can't really make money off newgrounds, That's the main reason why a lot of animators from newground moved to YouTube
0 likesFace it pal, it’s YouTube or bust.
0 likesTom Hill GUYS, we need something like most famous youtubers who can do this to make content they want to like filthy frank, idubbz or any of those 2016 era type channels, less good image= less companies backing YouTube= less power. But this should be a last resort to punish youtube After all else fails.
0 likes@TheLetterL ᨆ that's a nuclear option, and even that won't work, as Emp said in his new YouTube geography video of MattWhatitis, Attacking YouTube's wallet is useless, Since even to this day, We don't know if YouTube is profitable. Google only kept YouTube because of it's influence. So it's just going to hurt creators and nothing else
0 likesTo Bitchute!!!!
0 likesYoutube is actually a really good website when it comes to copyright, what we should be boycotting is the US copyright system
0 likes@TankMcHavoc Productions the thing is, youtube has terrible management and nobody to stop them. Plus, monopolies are very dangerous
0 likesNo
0 likes@Maachen storyfire we have a way
0 likes@TheVideoGamingChannel Bitchite has sold out too now😭This is some bullshit fr
0 likes@netizen sort of, but no at the same time. The political youtubers that were getting algorithmically throttled began to set up accounts on BitChute, and these channels were mainly on the right. There are some apolitical channels on the site such as Ricky Berwick though. We need more apolitical channels on bitchute for more variety though
0 likesPeople are too stupid to adopt another video streaming service. OSW Review and Botchamania were hit with copyright strikes relentlessly a few years ago and both moved to Vimeo for a few months. Both had their own websites with links to their content on Vimeo and hardly anyone knew about it. When they finally came back to YouTube everyone was wondering where they went and welcoming them back as if they'd been on a long hiatus from creating content.
0 likesEven longtime dedicated fans of content creators are too lazy and stupid to figure out how to move to another platform to continue watching the content of their favorite creators.
It’ll be so easy to do tbh. Just shop local and read a book.
0 likes@Geeeee8 "what's Bitchute?"
0 likes- The world
YouTube is already losing money so it wouldn't hurt them just the creators
0 likesI think it's unfair to call them clowns, in the circus environment clowns are well respected professionals who have spent years perfecting their craft.
1 likeyour editing is incredible, can't wait for part 2
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yeah!
0 likesI have had great success fighting manual copyright claims. They do it hoping you wont fight back but at the end of the day they wont fight your 3 seconds of audio. Viacom is a different story not even YouTube itself will let you fight them
0 likesIt's really sad seeing all these hardworking people make something so creative, well thought out, and entertaining, and then YouTube comes along and says "hey you! Fuck your dreams, ambitions, and creativity, we own you!"
0 likesFor the example around 17:45 I think I can provide some insight into why media companies would strike a positive/free-promotion type video, even if only 1min of it is copyright material.
1 likeThey have to ‘protect’ their intellectual property at every turn. Not doing so weakens their ownership of it. If they found your video but didn’t claim it, it opens the door for more egregious violations in the future.
Say they don’t strike your video, then the next day I upload 2minutes of copyrighted WWE material praising them. Then someone else uploads 5min, then 30min etc. Where does it stop for WEE?It has nothing to do with free promotion, positive reviews or money, it’s something they have to do to ensure they maintain ownership of ALL their intellectual property (clips, matches, show names, wrestlers, gimmicks, belts, catch phrases etc.) if they implicitly say ‘that EmpLemon video is fine’ then in essence, they are saying ‘we’re okay with some infringement’ and that’s just a can of worms no media company wants to get into. Your comment about media companies being robotic is actually quite accurate.
Something i think you forget is precedent. if one small time youtuber wins in a case like this every following legal clame become streamlined and the money required to win would become less with every defeat. for exaple if you use 10% of a video for movie reviewing purposes and you win anyone else who does the same will be able to just point at it and say thats what they were doing.
0 likesI agree with almost all of the points in the video, but the reason WWE might have blocked your vid is because it sets a precedent for other people to use it, positive or otherwise.
0 likesi run a record label, and our uploads have been pretty much always claimed by OUR OWN DISTRIBUTORS, and they still deny the claims
0 likesOh well, the copyright system was, is, and always will be broken, no matter what will happen.
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indeed we really need to abolish all of copyright law, and rewrite totally new and more open ways to use artwork
9 likesAsking when Youtube's copyright system will be fixed is like asking when Brexit will actually happen.
1 like@pharder1234
2 likesCopyright needs to be abolished and STAY abolished.
It was never about artists rights in the first place anyway (it was always a sneaky censorship tool) and at best it only protected the shittiest of publishers who would fuck the artists (that the copyright was supposedly made for) over relentlessly with.
This is also ignoring that copyright (and patents) lets someone who did something decades ago collect money on said work that they've often done no work on since.
Copyright will never be fixed.
3 likesIt only changes to various degrees of broken.
@Fixed Fun Exactly! This dude being telling facts right now.
0 likesThat NordVPN add didn't age well
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ooh drama?
0 likesGive us the details!
3 likes@Bobby snoopy Nooperson the third they had a security breach a couple of weeks ago and pretty much the information of everyone who used their service got in the hands of the hacker(s) that made the attack.
24 likesGoopy-Amethyst yeah but no ones data was leaked
2 likesDerry The king because it’s valuable information. You don’t steal that and give it out for free. You sell that shit.
9 likesA few years ago, I got my entire channel deleted for uploading a 30 second video with a clip of a new Drake song, but the audio was 8 kbps. 8 FUCKING KBPS. Do you know what that sounds like? Thats almost indistinguishable. It was for a stupid meme, and I lost everything. No explanation, just there one day, and then gone the next. No way of recovery, that I knew of. Had almost 1,000 subs after 6 years, and then nothing, gone forever. So yeah, FUCK these music companies and their automated systems.
1 likeRIP BunchaFX
2010-2016
Some YouTube:*Uploads Video Praising Some Company*
1 likeThe Company: I’m about to end this whole mans career
We need to boycott YouTube. At least until they fix their copyright system.
0 likesI was introduced to YT by BFDI, tech, and early-Roblox. Still a great series imo
0 likesThis man is doing the lords work over here.
0 likesYou know they can just copyright claim literally silence, right? Or stuff that remotely sounds like instruments. They can still claim your 100% original videos.
0 likesI can't wait for part 2 but NordVPN is just TOO oversponsored
0 likesI've always had this idea when it comes to copyright claims on Youtube.
40 likesCouldn't you just make a alt account and copyright claim every video you make when it comes out so you still get paid for it?
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You need proof.
1 likeAnd an audience.
1 likeActually, Given Evidence (Camilia Lost An Episode Of Glitchtale Because Someone Uploaded/Stole It], No You Dont
1 likecopyright claim it? yea, getting a ''copyright deadlock'' where a bunch of ppl fight over the same video and no one gets anything is easy, getting the monetisation means having a claims company registered with youtube
3 likesyoutube pooper here: got my most popular video (at the time) taken down due to apparently taking watch time from official mr bean content, despite being only 3 minutes long and consisting mostly of explosions. (it was also completely un-monetised due to my channel size at the time, i was making nothing)
2 likesI discovered last week that my twelve second TF2 video has been copyright claimed for using the 'Meet the medic' theme. Not that it bothers me, its just the fact that these people are so desperate for money, they will try and claim a video that has less than ten views.
0 likeswhen i look at my old liked videos and reach ~2014 about 90% are either deleted or private. everything on youtube has been downhill since then. unfortunately their competitors are constantly being taken down as well
0 likesI miss youtube being a place where people uploaded for fun instead of for money, and Ads didn't exist
0 likesCan I copyright claim YouTube in its entirety and then give it back to the people?
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In theory, yes. But you need to have solid fucking proof to back up such a claim.
41 likesIn a lot of cases the defender ( youtube ) will probly stall it out long enough untill you run out of money to pay the lawyer and then you pull out thus ending the case.
Calm down there, Bane.
8 likesSeize the memes of production
18 likesTo use! The people!
0 likesVIVA LA REVOLUTION!
10 likesSo you're basically going to be the Robin hood of youtube?
7 likes“No one man should have all dat power.” - Kanye West
8 likesBuahahaha
0 likesI can't believe that we're still talking about fair use in 2021
1 likeIve lost count of how many times Ive actually watched a movie based on me liking random clips on YouTube
0 likes5:57 there is no such thing as guaranteed safe. If you wrote and performed a song yourself you can still get matched with some other song and get it taken down or demonetized.
0 likesHowever often even independent 2D animators on YouTube rely on external sound effects for their original content even though they might create their own OST for their original short film animations! Also a lot of channels similar to Kazukrat actually loose money through their videos because of the ad revenue from views not making enough to fully cover the production costs so that’s why they are often dependent on donations and crowd funding through sites like Patron to keep afloat as businesses they can make a living off! :)
0 likesI think you missed an important point about copyright and poops;
49 likesPosting a full film on YouTube is for people who haven’t seen it yet and taking away a potential audience member.
Poops use the film that a viewer has already seen to poke fun at something. The poop assumes you’ve already seen it, isn’t replacing the film and is being used for something the potential audience member isn’t going to find in the original.
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Yeah ikr
1 likeLike with these meme song mashups, you'd have to of heard both songs originally otherwise you wouldn't really get anything from the mashup.
And if it gets popular enough, people will watch the original material just to understand the content .
1 likeI'm praying that Youtube will have a better replacement at some point
0 likesThis video is exceptionally relevant rn. Suzy Lu is the new antagonist, and YouTube her accomplice
2 likesWhen the US morphed in to a corporate oligarchy, copyright went from a shield to protect creators from corporate greed, in to a weapon used by corporations to shut down creators. Because remember folks, corporations hate capitalism because it means they actually have to invest in creativity and put effort in to their work.
1 likeInsert Obi-Wan clip saying "Now you have become the very thing you swore to destroy."
Helpful and informative. Thanks
0 likes: How can we stop spam bots impersonating other well established youtubers ?
71 likesYouTube: Lets remove all them verification check marks
EDIT: Youtube actually listened for once is now changing back to the old verified check mark. Well guys we did it. This is an epic gamer moment.
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They just kicked the can down the road. They'll probably wait a month and de verify everyone without a notification.
2 likesInherently the system isn't bad(it ain't good) it's just inconsistent which makes it bad
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Its open for interpretation and the ones with power can enforce their interpretarion of the issue
1 likeI tried to use a Beatles song as a medium to display my content, and UMG blocked the video in all countries.
4 likesYouTube has to die in order for this to end. It's that simple. There needs to be new competition that just doesn't give a fuck about the corpos
0 likesThere needs to be a fine for copyright claims which give the creator the lost money and if it’s a company a tax on top of the fine
0 likesWe gotta find a way so that youtubers can safely copyright claim their own videos and take all ad revenue from their own video. Thats the real metagame
38 likesAnd this is why it's just easier to make money through patreon or merch sales, in turn you give something back while being able to be financially stable
0 likesYouTubers: Make a good review about a specific product, telling people why they should buy it, giving money to the company.
0 likesCompany: s i l e n c e t h o t
*Emp: Talks about copyright abuse.
12 likesAlso Emp: Uses "Beneath the mask" from Persona.
Every Persona/MegaTen YouTuber: "May Atlus have mercy on your soul."
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It's such a good song though
1 likeshould have used persona 2 music
0 likes@Alice Margatroid Not like Atlus remembers that game exists so it should be fine to use.
1 likeIt does have a banger soundtrack though.
Can someone please start creating other platforms to rival youtube? It doesnt have to be an overnight success. Just survive long enough to grow a presence to give youtube the smallest bit of competition. Thats the literal only way this problem will ever get addressed.
0 likesYou're one of few YouTubers I can honestly say I can fully watch the videos of without getting bored within a few minutes. I don't even have to care much about the subject in manner because your videos are always highly enjoyable and I look forward to each upload.
19 likesDoesnt the broken copyright system have something to do with Youtube wanting to keep Vevo?
0 likesTbh there should be an actual law against infringement of free use. Where if you infringe it, you would need to pay a giant fee
0 likesBit late to this but I have an xp to share.
0 likesI used to save/upload music I had produced back while I was in high-school (34 now, like 30ish at the time of all this) and it was a way for me to archive it in case of hardware / data failure. Well one day, I had noticed that one of the tracks had a DMCA strike on it. I filed an appeal as this random guy was claiming that I was stealing his music/IP. I wrote YT back explaining my position, that the music was 10+ years old and that I could prove it by the creation date / file time stamp. They requested the files and such, verified on their own and unlocked the DMCA after sending me a determination letter.
I was honestly shocked at it all but was very thankful that YT sided with me, I now host the music at SoundCloud but regardless, that was sketchy and the guys stuff was like from 2014 when I had produced this stuff as far back as 2002!
17:48 that App state clip. Holy shit! That really got me. You never seize to make me laugh Emp.
0 likesCopyrighting music? That's cute.
5 likesI got a claim for my fucking exhaust note...
I wish I were lying.
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Who by?
1 likeyo bladed I didn't think you'd be the guy to watch this
0 likes14:01 that’s actually a Italian dude who lied about his heritage.
0 likesAnd the commercial itself was used for big plastic bottle companies to try and blame us for the plastic bottle problem we have today, and it worked too well.
Edit: spelling mistakes, on mobile sorry
Imagine getting your video blocked in 53 more countries than there are on earth
1 likeHad many strikes with claims made on my own voice.
2 likesthe copyright system has been on a downward spiral and now it's lost it completely
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It was never good though.
5 likesThen again, this copyright system is what stops YouTube from becoming another CDA PL; an unpopular site with tons of piracy.
You can make a song on a different account, register it to the content ID system, and use it in a video on your main account, then claim your video with your alt account to get monetized without having to appeal to YouTube's age appropriate monetization system.
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a shame that has to be done because youtube can't fucking do this shit properly
0 likesAND HERE WE ARE IN 2021 TALKING ABOUT FAIR USE - based on the recent REMOVAL of the dislike number AND the like to dislike ratio bar.....FUCK OFF YT!!!
4 likesSomeone should do a class action lawsuit against YouTube for not respecting Fair Use.
0 likesI cant believe in 2021 we are still talking about fair use on youtube.
0 likesI have been saying the same opinion about copyright all over YouTube (you probably have seen one of my comments) but i will repeated it for a 54th time, copyright isn't about protecting original authors anymore (or for the last 50 years) is about stealing money and ideas from other similar ideas, censure public opinions and to stably a legal monopoly
16 likesI was waiting for you to make an AVGN reference. You can't have all these throwbacks to the glory days in your videos without mentioning James and what he did for the reviewing medium.
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I Feel Like The AVGN Reference Might Be In The Start? No Idea
0 likesLike your videos man and nice to know you’re a wrestling fan too. That block from the RAW Is War is bs but at least AEW going to be awesome.
0 likesStart a petition to fix the internet and save everyone
0 likesI spent 2 months on a half hour long The Incredibles YTP, spent ALL DAY uploading the bitch, only for Youtube to tell me fug no at the last second. I can't even upload the type of video this site was once known for!
0 likesYou’re doing great work, man. Keep it up. Glad we’re stuck with you.
28 likesI know that one day, one of these companies are going to fuck up and try to steal from the wrong YouTuber and get sued HARD. But thats just in my dreams
0 likesThis video's ending is the least sponsored sponsored segment I have ever witnessed.
0 likesI had an unlisted video with no sound from drone footage I took as a test, and it got taken down by Sony for copy write. Nothing I could do they just closed the dispute.
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Yeah Uh
0 likesEverything Is Stolen
Eyesight? Copyrighted
Vehicles? Copyrighted
Devices? Copyrighted
Hearing? Copyrighted
Everything Is Copyrighted
I use AlgoMusic for all my copyright avoiding needs. My YouTube page is now a dumping ground for 6 to 10 second long shitposts and randomly generated noises made into randomly generated music. I also have a filter and overlay if I ever have to display something that's copyrighted (a WIP), and if I were to ever stream on this platform again, I have to train myself to never say the name of a copyrighted work, or just not use a mic at all.
0 likesI may seem a bit over the top about it, but I had to stop playing music at all on streams due to the Content ID system flagging my every video. Ironically, my YTP channel hasn't been bombed nearly as hard, but that's because maybe the edits are too frantic to be fully detected.
Joke's on you, Emp. I was watching this video with Nord VPN enabled.
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Are you at all surprised that a link with completely nonsensical basis is a Rickroll, Absolutely Not a Russian Dictator?
0 likesSMH some people still not on the guard for Rolls.
Calling it now, the highest risk ones are going to be music channels that upload original music videos from movies, videogames, etc.
0 likesDo you all remember back in the day when YouTube used to be what it is until from October 2012 onward it has became a shell of it's former self. The system is on drugs and we are the ones who are stuck with it as there are no other website to replace it's popularity.
0 likesThe reason why I have stopped uploading videos from Autumn 2016 is because I have been realising more about the website and how much it has changed over the years. I have returned with a new channel but only to make people happy and not YouTube by it's self because the website now is completely dejective, disdainful, stingy and doesn't give a shit of who ever is on the website unless if it's someone that plays movies or TV episodes that are copyrighted and YouTube is like best friends to Nickelodeon or other channels that has became a shell of there own former self like this fractured, trainwreck environment. Nobody ever asked for YouTube in the first place back in the 2000s only to make the world a worser place that it has become over the last 10 or 15 years.
I feel sorry for people who try their very hardest to get an audience. But at least having an audience is more achievable and should be more important than trying to be the most popular channel on this broken website.
It would be nice if somethings can go back to the good old days but that'll never happen because YouTube and whatever executive doesn't give a shit 1 bit. At least you got lots of subscribers and viewers Emperorlemon.
You can't complain about the copyright system without a plan of action to either solve the system or at least try to work with it to the best of your ability. YouTube is a unique platform with hours of content being uploaded every few seconds. You have to recognize that nobody will care if you get claimed or even striked down. I had a completely original song get taken down because a company wanted to block it for another strike which already expired.
0 likesShould be super simple. You must watch the video fully to claim a video. Sure, there are still ways around it. Sure, someone is going to upload 10 of the 10 hour videos that are just like "Everytime there is a letter E the movie repeated" things. And yes, someone will turn on the video, let it play, and walk away until it's done, just to strike it without context. But it would be better than the system we have.
0 likesI remember a video called "10 minutes of silence" it had like 4mil views and it got deleted.
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Jesus XD
0 likesFact: You Cant Even Have Silence Without Being Fucked Over
26 likesEver heard of The Ballad Of Richard Nixon by John Denver?
8 likesIt's just 10 seconds of silence.
@Happyarch yep.
1 likeCOPYRIGHTED FOR HAVING THE COLOUR WHITE ON YOUR WALLS
1 like@K19 or maybe it was 4'33
0 likesI have to tell you, Japan's copyright law is the most repressive, even more than the EU's. Anti file sharing tools are too powerful, the law doesn't give you a non-profit defense (which is enforced in Switzerland, Spain, and Poland), the government refers copyright as a criminal offense, you face 10 years in prison (which is absolutely horrible), it is easy for the authorities to spy you on YouTube (it's worse than getting your channel terminated), and Japan-based copyright organizations could even sue you for criticizing their actions!
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Even modifying consoles and rom hacking will get you jailed in Japan.
0 likesYep. The copyright system is garbage. Yesterday, one of my older videos got blocked in the UK for using literally 10 seconds of a Pendulum song. 10 seconds.
0 likesI swear there used to be a limit on this shit, but now? Nope.
wouldn’t it be great if companies get striked if they falsely claim a video, three videos and consequences will happen
0 likesThe people "manually reviewing" aren't what you think they are.
1 likeThey are reading reports from the robots and just maybe having a look at the video before clicking yes or no.
I noticed the song near the end of the video was a remix of a Gorillaz song. That is very clever and just proves your point even more. Great video my dude.
0 likesI'm positive that the Ice Mountain song that EmpLemon is currently utilizing in any of his videos is getting old. Personally, it would help if we have a more diverse soundtrack in Emp's videos.
0 likesI would be super interested in what you think of the YT strike, and union Emp.
0 likesA veces me dan ganas de llorar de lo limitada que está la libertad de expresión
1 likeWe need to replace YouTube
2 likesI was introduced to YouTube thanks to 2011-2014 YTPs
0 likes2:40 this is a super good way to change the song props to you emp
0 likesfun fact: most YouTubers regard the song at 2:32 with nostalgia and fondness instead of hatred nowadays
0 likesHow long until these companies make a song where the singer is just reading a dictionary aloud so they can claim all the videos in English?
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How do you know that isn't in the works? I mean, it would be one hell of a long play (especially if it were unabridged), but they are scummy enough to try that.
1 likeItalian it is then.
1 likesay what you want about other countries they at least are upfront with their censorship and don't rely on proxies
1 likecopyright just strangles everybody in the end
So, every kind of non-Youtube company is now trying to nuke Youtubers. Sweet.
0 likes3:13 “Eventually, media companies began to realize that monetizing claimed content was a much better option than just removing it”
5 likesremoving or blocking.
Holy shit. 1 year since the video was released and nothing's changed, if not worsened. I don't make content of my own but seeing channels I follow getting copyrighted by the most absurd thing really makes me feel a bit sad and angry for them, because they not only dedicate a lot of their time and effort into creating those videos but also they often have to spend time dealing with nonsense bullshit.
0 likesWho's more aggressive?
513 likes1.UMG
2.WMG
3.SME
Answer:
They're all abusive, let's face it.
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That brazilian group,.even has videogame music ID claimed.
8 likesUWSMMMGGE
0 likeskfc
2 likesATF
0 likes@Sam MaxGoof I'd love to too, but there's a risk of these companies refusing to publish anything on YT and just push everything on shitty alternatives instead.
1 like@Daniel Barbona kondzilla?
0 likesBFG
0 likes4-Viacom
3 likesShould’ve trusted the EU.
0 likesRandom penguin house
0 likesUMG.
1 like@Drew Insur That group called Uniao brasileira do editoras do musica, those thug bastards claims ID every song that is on YouTube, even copyright videogame music like Final Fantasy, which is already property of another music company, so those disgusting bastard straight up stole the music. I'm even thinking that this editorial doesn't exist at all.
3 likesFor musicians umg by far
0 likesYar I guess I’ll be a pirate then
0 likesWe’ll find out after the uprising at the trials. They can three-way pit fight like on Star Trek and see who lives.
0 likes@Daniel Barbona what's worse, is Oppenheimer speech is claimed by wmg sevenged avenfold due to being present in MV
1 likeDid you forget CDbaby?
0 likesViacom
0 likesThey are an evil company, and we are all stuck.
0 likesah yes, more quality content
0 likesI've seen people compose their own music only for it to get claimed by someone else. Disgusting.
0 likesThis video is inaccurate, the only copyright claim I've ever received was on a 3 second video of literally nothing. I got a strike and everything, hellsite.
0 likesTooltip: There is no such thing as something that's too big to fail.
5 likesEVERYTHING falls to time.
Was your clip of WWE content fair use? If so, that would have been a much stronger argument to present. If not, there's really no grounds for complaint. Your personal opinion that your use of the copyrighted work was beneficial to the rights holder carries no weight if they disagree.
0 likesWith Fantano's content, not using the music also forces you to go listen to the music yourself, which can be good.
0 likesCan't believe we're still talking about fair use on YouTube in 2022.
0 likesIf content ID can detect where the copyrighted content starts and ends, why don't they just calculate what percentage of the content is copyrighted material, and take that percentage of your video earnings? Seems pretty trivial to implement, and fair for both parties.. Well, too fair for the little guy.
8 likesYouTube: Everything is fine.
7 likesCreators: The copyright system is bro-
YouTube: EVERYTHING IS FINE!
I have a problem with this.
2 likesMy channel, (not this one im posting with) is about to come out with a long serious of many videos in which I'm translating foreign language music into English.
Do the creators care? No.
Do they care they're breaking the law? No.
Do they care they'd get more advertising if they just left off? No.
Are they humans deserving of human rights? pfffffffffffff. No, of course not!
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention, they're not demonetising my videos
0 likesThey're deleting them.
That spiral thing in the beginning is the most painful thing I’ve ever seen on YouTube.
0 likesThat AEW shout out made me smile greatly.
0 likesWhat about the stuff that jim sterling used to do? Use all the copyrights so when multiple companies claim the revenue, no one gets the money, because it can't be split between multiple claimants. Does that still work?
0 likesY'all should get a class action against YouTube itself
0 likesWith so much copyright claim, I feel proud that I am gonna watch now The Mandalorian's episode 3 illegaly downloaded trough The Pirate Bay website. Bye.
1 likeThere's a "group"(?) called "The Orchard Music" that have copyright claimed a few songs that have nothing to do with them, and are essentially public domain because they were never released in a for-profit, or label manner. Watch out.
0 likesI await part 2 eagerly
0 likesIs one of the secret forbidden copyright techniques turning the simpsons green?
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yes.
8 likesYes.
5 likesyES.
5 likesNo that just means that they have entered combat with an enemy stand
6 likesi once had an independent wrestling promotion copyright strike a music video i made out of one of the matches they booked. Not a major promotion like WWE, but a MINOR LEAGUE INDY PROMOTION. I traded emails back and forth with them saying that how it benefited them and they just said "well we'd rather do it ourselves." They might as well have said "thanks for buying our show, but fuck you." so it's not just a problem with big corporate entities.
0 likes14:16 “the transformers”, I believed that ytpmv (youtube poop music videos) are on there. I really hope it is less at risk than regular ytp of recent movies since some of them are quite good.
0 likesWow, this video wasn't recommended to me at all even though I watch and like everything you make
0 likesI can't believe we're still talking about YouTube copyright in 2057 😆
1 likePlease keep using the smash ultimate library as background music.
3 likesAwsome choice.
I wouldn't say bootleggers are at the highest risk; they somehow seem to get fewer claims and strikes
0 likesEasy solution to all of this: use copyrighted stuff and then when you get flagged just appeal the unlawful strike. Ez.
0 likesI can't wait to see YTPs in a few decades. If the world hasn't abandoned YouTube by then.
0 likesHow to avoid youtube copyright : Colorize your videos like JoJo's Bizzare Adventure
534 likesYellow skin : Demonetized
Green skin : Monetized
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Turn `em green to keep your green.
56 likesWhat does that have to do with JoJo? Am I missing something from parts 6-8?
2 likes@Erik-Hans Eisenheber It's a reference to how the characters are given vastly different colors on their outfits for certain scenes in the anime as well as most promotional drawings and album covers for the manga.
45 likes@Dimwiddy Ohhhh of course. I can't believe I forgot that was a thing.
11 likes@Erik-Hans Eisenheber No sweat! It's done when the mood is appropriate so it doesn't stick out too much in your mind.
17 likesSo that's why the Simpsons are green
11 likes@Ovidiu Toma somehow, Emplemon hates/dislike JoJo, But in the same time, He uses JoJo's color technique
1 likeI think the sjw jokes speak for themselves
0 likes@Random Internet User He does? no dignity
0 likesJust fucking play Jotaro’s theme already
0 likesNo good. Viz Media owns the rights to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure in the U.S and they're stingy with copyright as they took down Sailor Moon Reanimated twice. You might get your video mistaken for a JoJo clip.
0 likesThis video is great, especially the part about the WWE video is hilarious
0 likesI usually just memorize the max length that the claim doesn't occur as a strike when uploading CN clips
0 likesA Swedish rapper tried to claim my own voice. No music! Just my voice!
1 likeI hope we get an alternative to YouTube that's not cancer. That way we can go over there. If they wanted to do this right they would have someone at YouTube look at the claim for you either before or when appealing. They're just lazy and don't want to hire people to do it.
0 likesSir you took several breaths which has been copyrighted by Nature and trees
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I am the Lorax I speak for the trees. Now give me your revenue if you please!
15 likesCut the Sjw Trees down!
3 likesI can't believe EmpLemon called YTP a genre
0 likes17:05 and this is why Youtube corporate probably agreed to make these rules with the government smh
1 likeWhat about only uploading public domain content, or at least concent with a Creative Commons license?
0 likesI watched part 2 before this because this didn't show up in my notifications even though I have your channel set to send all notifications to me. I dislike YouTube so much.
0 likesFigured it was about time for you to show up and tear Youtube another asshole. Always great to see you in the sub box, Hoss.
5 likesgenuinly laughed out loud at that sponsorship
0 likesFair use (as you said in the video at 11:05) is a DEFENSE. You can only use it when a copyright claim has happened. It's the same for stuff off youtube as well. You can't use "It's fair use" before a copyright claim happened.
0 likeswhen i did youtube i noticed that if you use more than like 15 secs of copyright stuff you'll get copyright claimed thats why i used to cut copyright stuff around 10 or less secs
0 likesIn a couple of years from now
0 likesYouTube will eventually die as a platform a new platform will rise from the grave
Imagine having your career and livelihood depend on Youtube
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i hope everyone being demonitized makes a split happen. those who are passionate will keep making videos, maybe allow fans to donate directly. those who just want money will perish or leave for a shitty paid platform
3 likesCan a collective group organize against a single entity to appeal against an unlawful claim? "We 10,000+ (or so) youtubers who have been victims of evident unlawful copyright claims vote against [COMPANY] so that they are penalized and have their copyright infringement accusation rights removed for the following year"? Sounds weird but something along the lines of that. There HAS to be something we can all do together that at least serves as disciplinary action against an entire company for irresponsible using their power.
0 likes"If you're looking for evidence that we're living in a clown society, keep watching my videos."
0 likesI had two channels be taken down for making YTP and uploading some gameplay from a rhythm game.
0 likesGeneral knowledge: mumbos case for copyright strike, was technically not mumbo's or YouTube's fault as the music he used was copyrighted and the person who gave permission to mumbo didn't actually have permission to do that and therefore Mumbo was using copyrighted music
0 likesThis comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim from WMG.
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white house meme vid got deleted lol
3 likesWhy don't people just upload a video completely composed of the raw material (footage/music) they intend to use in a real video to test the Content ID system and use only half of the material that gets detected by the system as copyrighted? If it gets marked when raw, it could possibly be marked when edited, too. That way, you can control how much of your revenue is yours and how much time you spend editing a video.
1 likeAew has been hitting just about every yt creator that mentions them with a copyright claim...they even accidentally struck one of there own videos..not to mention dynamite just straight sucks
0 likesJust like most people, I'm not really one to spend the time to write a comment on a video--I consume the content I decide is worth my time and I get on with my life.
0 likesBut you've compelled me to comment here, if only in some vain attempt to reach a creator that has managed to leave a bigger impact on me in the meager handful of days I've been perusing your channel than most I've come to watch regularly on this site for the past several years of my life.
While I haven't dug into every single video and every single story on this channel, its content (particularly the more contemporary commentary videos) has presented me with such a compelling and thoroughly internally consistent experience as a new viewer that I just have to follow it up myself somehow. The downward spiral has claimed another victim, and it's been a hell of ride so far. Especially dipping my toes into your old poops, since I'm a huge fan of YTPs (Captain Duckturd is my current favorite YTPer, can't wait for new stuff from him). I'm a bit saddened that you've essentially closed the book on your YTP antics, but that's pretty understandable given all the shit that went flying after a while when you did.
What I really wanted to talk about, though, is the strange position you hold in the YouTube landscape and the shockingly unique personality that you've become on this site.
The first video to sneak me into this channel was, unsurprisingly, your newest one: this one. I watched it the day it came out, and the memes you invoked in it intrigued me to say the least. I knew there was more to the downward spiral, your editing style, and visual source material. It all comes together to create something capable of causing culture shock, honestly. That includes the stellar music choice for all of the videos I've watched so far.
You've been effectively sitting out of this game called YouTube for years now, and it's given you and, by extension, your viewers an incredibly interesting perspective on the events that came and went over these past years on YouTube. You've had the opportunity to experience, spectate, and dissect the many baffling things that have gripped this site and its users. Seeing the events that I saw from afar as what's best described as a YouTube lurker, I was totally disconnected and unable to really grasp their contexts and finer nuances. The semi-jaded, cynical lens that your channel expresses itself through is something entirely new to me. And that combined with your eagerness to interact with others and to operate constructively despite the coarse language you tend to employ was frankly enough to force my hand in hitting the un-unsubscribe button.
I'm looking forward to your upcoming videos, and the continuation of the epic saga of the downward spiral.
It was fun watching your videos, but it's gotten tiring.
0 likesOne sub goes away, but another will take its place...
From YTP, to dank memes, to Internet documentaries....The Spiral is getting worse...
0 likesGreat work, great video👏👏👏
0 likesAs somebody who's right there with you on wrestling opinions, the middle finger to WWE and AEW plug was chef's kiss
0 likesYou know youtube's copyright system doesn't work, when it couldn't even figure out that rusty cage stole that song from mumkey jones!
0 likessomeone should sue youtube so they fix this shit
1 likegod i remember that full metal jacket scream being audible the first time around
1 likeGot a strike today on my other channel. I uploaded it over 7 years ago. What changed?? Good job YT!
0 likessaw the word "metagame" and my brain quickly thought it was a tierzoo video, good lord
0 likes0:32
180 likesI guess you could say...
Their copy right system is all Mumbo Jumbo
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Wumbo
8 likesNice pun
1 likeHAAAAAAAAAAA, funny
0 likesEEKUM BOKUM
3 likescries in redstone
2 likes@LX Verdant I wumbo, you wumbo, he she wumbo
1 like@Stereo Monovici Oominaka
0 likes*This comment has been claimed by Microsoft*
3 likesIt's really quite simple...
1 likeStill waiting for part 2.
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It'll be out in another month, and 3 months after that we'll get part 3.
1 likeSpeaking of aew, they had the same problem wwe had when claiming videos, turns out both systems are automated and when a large YouTube created actually reached out to aew, they redid the system and stoped claiming all the videos they had falsely flagged..wwe has not done the same
0 likesi laughed at the TNT part lol. good vid
1 likeYoutube Content ID. Many vloggers dub copyrighted music in other footages, to avoid this terrible system.
0 likesHey Emp, will we ever see a return of Minute Memes? I'm not demanding content more often, just wondering if you've abandoned the project in favor of these more large scale edits instead.
0 likesHey Emp sorry you have meta in your title
0 likesMany people have copyrighted meta so pay up
(Hey Emp love your videos btw, after you finish this can you talk about Instagram normies stealing memes?)
You ever think that youtube allows a select group to make large amounts of money as a way to convince creators to make content that will be claimed "for no reason" by the very companies andorganizations that make youtube its money
0 likesNah. The Bootleggers are called the Pirates. Pirating is illegally downloading something. Bootlegging is making their own something with a copyrighted thing without the owner of the copyrighted thing's permission.
1 likeI like how this struggle between good and evil forces content creators to push the boundaries. They'll evolve and survive.
22 likesThe only downside is that old videos might dissapear entirely when we die. Like two armies fighting in historic ruins only to have the ruins completely destroyed. Gone forever.
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Siao Wun not anymore we have technology (ytmp4)
1 likeComedy sketches and animations that don't use copyrighted music or characters can also count as Mr. Clean
0 likesNobody:
0 likesEmplemon:"I'm Tired of these phony motherfucking copyright claims on this motherfucking website!"
Gets demonitized by New Line Cinema for using a transformative line of dialogue that they shouldn't even be able to strike due to legal reasons but Youtube still get money so they dont care.
Jeorge Sparve is your guy, my dude. He and his union are suing YouTube for this and it's due to take place on October 22nd. Look at his channel for details. He's the Slingshot channel.
1 likeThis is the more accurate to reality take I've seen. Awesome research and editing!
4 likes0:34 Didn't that end up being his outro music using copyrighted samples?
1 likeThis video never showed up in my subscriptions. Found it by accident more than a week later. Thanks youtube.
1 likeAfter rewatching the video I now understand why the 2nd part was blocked
0 likesi remember getting striked for using a german marching song in one of my videos. the song was "Drei Lilien"
0 likesYoutuber: Breathes
46 likesUMG: Stay out of my territory.
If you do a rearrangement of a song its completely fine. I have some on my channel and they are 100% legally owned by me, even tho their is some music from Zelda for example. (feel free to use them as u wish, crediting me would be great)
0 likesI think Youtube should just stop giving corporations the option to make money of someones video entirely. The only reason why coypright claims are such an issue is that at the moment is because corporations have absolutely no incentive not to copyright claim videos. With trailer reactions for example, production studios simply get the best deal possible when claiming fraudulently: free advertising for their product AND free money from the videos.
0 likesI think that if they didn't have the option to make money off of these, they would just leave the videos up because deep down they really don't care about the infringement and understand the videos are free advertising. It's just that they're leaving money on the table if they don't claim the video.
And maybe at first we'd see an increase in videos getting blocked, but if there's no money in it, why would a company spend thousands of dollars trying to remove content that is based in fair use and on top of that passively benefiting them? Additionally to this system, Youtube should allow Youtubers to edit out the copyrighted material (it was in the news a while ago that this is possible for clips under a certain length, but I don't know how this turned out) and reupload and remonetize the video.
In my opinion Youtubers should also get some sort of protection from copyright claims at a certain subscriber milestone (somewhere in the range of 200,000-500,000 subs maybe). At this point the Youtuber is expected to be a legit content creator who's livelihood likely depends on his channel, and it should become impossible to take down their videos from then on. If a company still takes issue with a certain video, they'd have to fill out a form or something (it should be as annoying a process as possible) and send it to the youtuber. They then get to decide themselves if they want to edit the content out or want to dismiss the claim. If the company still thinks they're in the right, Youtube themselves should have someone look at the video and determine if the video needs to be taken down.
That last thing is very unlikely, because Youtube (understandably) doesn't want any responsibility regarding copyright. It would open them up to lawsuits after all. Still, I see no reason why they can't just stop giving companies the ability to make money off of someone else's work.
Also, ads should just have a small disclaimer on them saying something like ''this ad is based on your preferences and was put here by an algorithm''. ''It is not an endorsement of the content/creator you're about to watch''. Voila, now every video can be monitized again, because companies wouldn't have to worry about appearing in front of controversial content! It would be the end of demonitization! I'm a genius!
Can we get... hundreds upon thousands of youtubers to rise up and sue these companies for being little...
0 likeshm. if i curse then the video could get demonetized.
You get what I mean. Everyone should band together and take down the companies holding youtubers back.
Like the Area 51 raid, but people would actually do stuff.
Where do you categorize the guy, that streamed a pay tv boxing match, on Twitch, while pretending with a controller in his hand, to play the boxing game?
1 likeIf you're not aiming to be supported by ads, try the Copyright Deadlock! Infringe on as much copyright from as many different sources as you want because if two or more copyright holders try to claim one video no one gets the money! Companies dont even check to see if they claimed something so it'll just be deadlocked forever. So if that sounds great, do it, and thank God for Jim Sterling
0 likesI lost some of my best content and a whole channel to copyright
0 likesits funny because youtube poops fall under parody law and therefore should be entirely legal
1 like@EmpLemon what do you think of those of us who use adblock and skip the sponsored segments
0 likes"Clown-based society" is being added to my vernacular immediately, thanks~
3 likesWhat do you think about coppa? And how it could effect Ytp-ers
0 likesGoing forward?
"imagine if your ex wife was in charge of determining your alimony payment" you mean like real life?
1 likeThat G&W music drop in the automation section is just 😘👌🏻
0 likesRemember, they stole C418's musics and copyrighted people with it. They shamelessly stole the music and got other peoples revenues ffs.
0 likesLesson from the video: be a clickbait YouTuber or no YouTuber at all
0 likesI remember my cat died the same day this video came out, definitely made my day better
0 likesWas this video monetized? Just wanna know if the Media fell into your trap ;)
0 likesSuch a good sponsored segment I didn't even skip
0 likesUMG, SME, WMG and VIACOM are the 4 horses of the adpocalypse
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horsemen
1 like@hank mart nono just the horses
0 likesIs Studio Ghibli their rider?
0 likesYour probably incredibly lucky Disney’s copyright bots don’t realize the color shifted Simpsons.
0 likesWhen you used the devil's staircase as background music I knew it was gonna be good
0 likesI wonder what Emp has to say about the newest problem of YouTube and the possible nail in the coffin. You people probably know what I'm refering to
0 likesI wonder were the copyright deadlock fall on the spectrum.
1 likeMeme makers are in no mans land. Lost a channel that made 6k in 2 months. Now only got 1k on this new one. I’d say we’re in the middle
0 likesYTPs pretty much always go directly in the fire, unfortunately unless they’re using the most obscure of sources. I’m not a youtuber by any stretch of the imagination, but even my shitty YTPs are blocked in more countries than Orwell’s 1984 is (thanks, Vince MacMahon....)
0 likesHaha, can't say I've ever heard Emerson Lake & Palmer as background music in a YouTube video.
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He's got some good taste lol
0 likesIm waiting for the year when an billionaire super skilled advocate gets his terraria lets play claimed and he uses all media companys for a trillion dollars and they make a deal with him promising not to claim any fair use or transformative video
0 likesGood thing Simpsons are nearly old enough the be public domain.
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You really think the mouse will let you off so easily?
147 likesThey have like 35 years still dont they?
28 likes@Tritone2276 yep.
11 likes@Shape Shifting The mouse is the big cheese here
30 likes@Shape Shifting A long as the mauuss (c) has that show on life support
6 likesCopyright is the lifetime of the author plus 70 years. The Simpsons came out in the late 80s(far less than 70 years ago) and last I checked, most all of its creators were still around, so I severely doubt that claim
41 likesTiberius Magnificus Caeser
21 likesEven if they were all dead, Maus would buy senators steak dinners to keep it for all eternity
Copyright last an inordinate length now, because of Disney. The simpsons won't be free for decades, and I doubt the mouse won't try to lobby again.
9 likesLET'S CALL DALE'S DEADBUG TO EXTERMINATE THE MOUSE
5 likes*Laughs in Disney*
1 like@Shape Shifting The Mouse is also close to being public domain, but we'll see how Disney shapes the copyright laws this time to avoid that happening.
3 likesMaus
0 likesRemember when youtube's tag line was "broadcast yourself" yeah neither do I
0 likesGood vid man, keep it up.
0 likesSomeone did a great smuggle
1 likeBut then it got blacklisted 🙅
So no more views 👻
i havent made a video in one year i still get claims every few weeks, sometimes claiming nothing but my Voice. So i will make a song using nothing but static mic noise and then im going to claim EVERYTHING
0 likesRemember when the recommended videos on the right would actually show more videos related to the video you just watched? Instead of showing you your entire Recommended section from the front page like it does now. Those were good times. Times when I could actually find new videos.
29 likes"Do you know the Tragedy of Darth Lemon the Emperor? Its not a story the Youtube copyright system would let you view."
0 likesAm I crazy, or was this video uploaded a while before September 21 2019 (which is what the description lists the upload date as)? Did EmpLemon take it down or make it private, and then put it back up?
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You're crazy
0 likesTake your meds
When you watch this video for the third time and realize behind the mask plays <3
0 likesPart 2 coming soon, huh... Sure bud
2 likesYeah bruh TheFatRat is like my favourite artist I have no idea how somebody copyright claimed his own song
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If rusty cage can be told he's not rusty cage by twitter because he took the piss out of a cheese company, anything can happen.
16 likesYou raised such an interesting point that I hadn't even considered. So many people got into youtube, me included, so we could watch shows for free. It brought back so many memories of 'Naruto episode 10 - part 1/5' and there was always one of the parts always missing
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...why would anyone do that? Sounds terrible. There's always been far better ways.
0 likes@Plaguis
0 likesIf you're a kid who doesn't have money and doesn't know much about the internet other than cool math games and YouTube, how would you watch shows?
Oh wow, was that Simian Jimmy's doing playing during that Nord VPN ad read? Amazing AND original! 🥴
0 likesWelp
1 likeThat NordVPN sponsor aged like milk
I feel like requiring the audience to be familiar with the material isn't a crutch for music review, considering the nature of the genre. It'd be pretty ridiculous to demand that the person reviewing something also deliver the thing they're reviewing.
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Copyright claims being as strict as they are and not allowing for the completely legal criticism of the work can be obnoxious for a plethora of reasons, but the whole argument of Fantano's reviews "lacking context" and being "dependant on the popularity" only makes sense in a vaccum where people aren't looking to listen to any new music.
2 likesHmm you know that youtube doesn't wanna get sued so they have this broken sytem for a reason
0 likesI remember when full movies were set at like 1.25 speed to trick the bot and the person in the description told you to set the video to play at 0.75 speed
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Yeah it was like back in 2009-2010 i remember there was a lot of them.
0 likesI remember it as late as 2016 because that's how our high school english class watched "a streetcar named desire" movie. the 1.25 speed youtube rip was higher quality than the teacher's official DVD
0 likes@Alfie Edwards i remember it was like some DreamWorks animation or something...
2 likesThis "i edited (cartoon) because (insert reason)" is getting out of hand. These normies are trying to normalize ytps (moat of the time they arent even good "edits" either"
0 likesWe really need to address this problem because im getting sick and tired of this because i dont want something I loved as a child ruined
Okay but you really didn't have to put Fantano in the "Mr. Clean" category because of his appearance
0 likesAnd then there's umg copyrighting you even if you use original music
37 likes12:46 "And many of you watching now are only here because you were first introduced to this site by binging on licensed TV clips."
1 likeI don't know about that. I think the very first video I watched on YouTube was a Mortal Kombat Fatality compilation video back in 2005. This was when Google Video was still around and I would watch most of the seasons of Red vs Blue on it.
we're sorry, your video has been handed over to: "YouTube" as all revenue will go to them, this is due to the fact that you uploaded this on "YouTube" :/
1 like0:38
3 likes“You wouldn’t copyright claim my content would you Brendan?”
“Oh fer sure my guy one hundurd percent”
i used to just changed the filter of a video or pitch the audio of a song but now it’s crazy.
2 likesHow 2 win:
97 likesCreate Smurf company
Upload each video you're about to upload to content id
Upload video
Claim it
Get revenue even if your not monetized
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This actually has me thinking, I think someone should do a video on this.
0 likesIf that actually happens, YOUTUBE WILL SHART ITSELF SILLY!
0 likesXD
That sounds fucking amazing.
0 likesClaimant: Hey! That's mine!
0 likesCreator: Fine! Own my hot piece of garbage! Hope you can stand the smell!
Claimant: On second thought, this should be thrown away...
Creator: Then give it back. Why'd you take it in the first place?
Claimant: Cause we're greedy.
You can get away with it if you distort the video and audio.
0 likesHype for part 2
0 likesWWE either hired a third party company, or they don't see any videos with their content as beneficial - they want everyone going to them for their content, no matter how small the part they want to see is.
0 likes13:05 I could've gone my entire life without seeing that.
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yeah wtf
7 likesSame
0 likes18:06
12 likes@An Easy-Bake Oven I'm scared of what the future generation of kids will be like on the internet
1 likeI remember seeing that in a random Minecraft channel. Why people would use this
3 likeslet alone make thisis beyond me.Amen.
0 likesLmao
1 likei hope everyone being demonitized makes a split happen. those who are passionate will keep making videos, maybe allow fans to donate directly. those who just want money will perish or leave for a shitty paid platform
0 likesI rarely have problems with copyright :)
0 likesNot just Youtube, Google has always been like this.
0 likesNot only does it disregard fair use on youtube, they tend to think themselves above the law by treating DMCA laws in a very one side (and likely deliberate) way.
In that they will comply with DMCA notices with haste, as they are obligated to do, but tend to ignore or decide not to act on counter-DMCA notices (which is strange, seeing as major media companies can file these too).
In fact, they literally responded to a counter-DMCA notice of a website I'm using with "we have decided not to respond" which is absolutely not legal.
Also not to mention the bogus corporations that will copyright claim what legitimately isn't theirs BUT it's on content that's been live for around 6+ years. That means people have been sent to scout out for potential victims to YouTube's rubbish system in the hopes of earning some quick revenue. By the Get-Rich-Quick God is it profitable too.
0 likes"The Cold Turkey"
31 likesAnthony is Vegan.
Maybe the cold....lettuce....
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*melon
6 likesI'm actually conflicted on Content ID, on one hand, it's one of the only ways a person like myself with the word "Bastard" in their fucking channel title could ever hope to make money from their own videos. On the other hand, it basically gives massive companies free reign to fuck people over and shuts anyone else out of using it unless they become a big company.
0 likesAccording to these big corporations fair
1 likeuse doesn’t exist
Besides taking wwII footage from a documentary and mixing it with some catchy pop songs. I would I admit it would amuse me.
0 likesI sure do love this site!!!
1 likeoh... if only youtube didn't become so embezzled with corporations........ what a dark age we live in
4 likesJust preemptively make your own claim on your own video as soon as you upload. Sorted.
0 likesLegitimately couldn’t tell if this was a YTP or not, from that opening..
0 likesLoving the use pf “We Are the Happy Landfill” during the no mans land section
0 likes"I can't wait to see AEW this October on TNT". LOL. Very funny!!!!
1 likeI actually uploaded the entirety of saw 3 on my channel. still hasn't been claimed. Just blocked in some country
1 likeIn the time between your last upload and now, I finished all of Persona 5. Thanks for the lil surprise:)
0 likesSo is this a clue that he should burn the content ID system to the ground?
0 likesDon't forget this: One of Vinny's VoDs was Copyright Claimed FOR CRICKET SOUNDS
1 likehttps://youtu.be/IoEhBCivhW4?t=4807
Thankfully it doesn't exist anymore
Something I've slowly been realizing is that the internet has, ironically, made it more likely than ever that noteworthy media vanishes forever.
84 likesOriginal Youtube content is remarkably ephemeral, between copyright claims of varying bogusness and the occasional creator breakdown followed by mass deletion of videos.
Streaming services for TV and movies are constantly swapping who owns the rights to what, while driving down the demand for physical releases, meaning something could very easily vanish off the net and not have a physical version anywhere.
And the general attitudes of digital media companies does not leave me with any faith that if, say, that book I just bought on Kindle were to get wiped from their servers in a freak accident, that Amazon would do anything to get it back or compensate me.
I've started to become a media hoarder. Do I wanna watch a TV show? I'll buy the DVD or Blu-Ray, and if I can't I'll pirate it and keep it on a hard drive, safe and sound where no one can go "Netflix has the rights. No wait, Hulu has the rights. No wait, Amazon has the rights." I don't use Spotify, I purchase Mp3s from Google Play and iTunes, and keep them on SD cards, because I no longer have faith that the music I like will be there tomorrow.
I'm seriously worried that one day, 30 years from now, I won't be able to enjoy the media I like now, even though it's no problem for me to go out and buy a copy of basically anything major from 30 years ago now.
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Exactly why I'm worried about this new digital era we seem to be slowly ushering into.
23 likesYou too huh? I fear the day when we will no longer be able to own music. Instead just permission to play it. Scary eh? I've been saving up mp3 and cds too. Need to get a hard drive soon.
13 likesAvex blocked Initial d stuff after 12 yrs afaik. It exists since 2006.
6 likesI need advice how to start saving physical music copies and devices to play them. I was born in '99 and am unfamiliar with this technology.
0 likes@Nel Zelpher I mean, Mp3 files are a fairly safe bet. You can just copy them onto spare hard drives, SD cards, flash drives, etc. A 64gb flash drive will run like $15 USD, and can hold enough music that you could play music nonstop for a week and never repeat a song. You can make a spare copy, keep it in a storage locker or at a family member's house or something, and have a backup. And since it's standardized computer file with a non-proprietary format, it should still work on any computer made after the early 2000s. Assuming you'll live a full life and die sometime in the 2090s, you'll still be able to either play Mp3s on whatever sort of computer we use then, or be able to get a second or third year computer science student to program an Mp3 player in exchange for a case of beer.
2 likesIf you're a part of the very small crowd who can, in fact, tell the difference between an Mp3 and high quality vinyl records, there are other computer formats. Look into lossless audio compression. Downside is that lossless formats require a lot more space.
After that, well, it gets tricky. CDs are easy to burn with a computer with a CD drive, but are easy to scratch up. Cassette tapes are bulky and wear out with enough use. Not to mention, tape decks aren't mass-produced like they used to be, and have a lot of moving parts that will eventually break. Vinyl records are even bulkier than cassettes, can get scratched, and require specialized equipment to copy.
This is why we must all buy physical media - BluRays, because we won't be able to own media any more.
0 likeswhen you get copyright claimed, if you can afford to sue, sue youtube.
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Nobody does
1 likeI like how you suggest that copyright infringement is the only way to not make your content "bland, repetitive and unengaging for new viewers."
0 likesOh, that’s where the Spongbob Saw parodies came from. YouTube poop-ers has scarred me in my mid to late childhood.
0 likesAn 2D slide show of drawings of spongebob, Patrick and two random guys with the ending similar to the first saw movie, just with Patrick slicing his neck open with a knife.
And I used to wonder how I got fucked up. (Sarcasm)
rip SantaWithTeeth
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Who?
4 likesMost indeed
0 likes@Goditto Idk man search it up
0 likesIf you are trying to monetize your videos then you are pretty much going to get canned if it has someone elses content its been in the laws for a long time if you dont monetize the videos they just dont really do anything you are protected under fair use laws
0 likesI disagree that some YouTubers would be better using copyrighted stuff. I see when people use copyrighted outside of reviews as cheap and just not good at art themselves and have to steal it.
0 likesDamn. Even feeling more helpless
0 likesThere are ways to do some gaming content as an example while being "Mr.Clean". The way I do it is by strictly recording all of my own gameplay and in-game soundtracks myself and using that material alone. Instead of a song in the backround - well it's still a song but just the in-game soundtrack.
0 likesSome games that you can pull this off easily - FoRtNiTe, upcoming Crab Champions or CSGO (record an music kit). With those three, thanks to the wide selection of songs (and great ones may I add) so you can use different tracks for different videos AND all 3 allow unique gameplay, due to they're built like that.
I want Part 2 right now! I have HAD IT WITH NOT WATCHING IT RIGHT AWAY!
4 likes3:02 and thus, youtubes downward spiral was born.
0 likesMr Clean and Cold Turkey aren't really that safe. Even if you make your own content, someone could parody or remix that content, then file a false claim against you which you may have to go to court to resolve.
0 likesBest video on this issue I've seen
0 likesYoutube been real quiet since this diss track got dropped
0 likesOh wait, no it hasn’t. 😒
Technological progress has merely provided us with more efficient means for going backwards.
13 likes~ Aldous Huxley (Brave New World)
12:50 nah, just looked up games and 6 yo self thought a youtube video was a game. Turns out it was an LP. Man do I miss 2010 Youtube
0 likesI've officially decided to copyright the number "13". Anyone who uses that number is gonna get sued for all the money on the planet.
0 likesYou probably wont read this but I recently had my YouTube channel of 200 subs terminated. I tried to get the termination appealed but nothing has happened so far. I have no evidence to back up my innocence. What would you suggest?
1 likeFamily guy made a copy of a youtube clip that was popular- in one of their episodes.
0 likesNot long after, the original youtube clip had to be taken down because of a copyright claim.
(Don't worry though, it got brought back later)
Also, I agree with you guy, but you switched from an in depth explanation into an emotional venting clip. Which is...weird.
YouTuber: breathes
151 likesVIACOM: hippity hoppity, I shall destroy your hopes and dreams
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1 likeAs Expected
1 likeBut that doesn’t even rhym—
1 likeViacom: <SLAP> 👋 REBUTTALS ARE COPYRIGHTED TOO
The long and short of it: YouTube is for corporate entities and people who (literally) sell their dignity to make mindless, repetitive content that makes a lot of money.
0 likesSoon we may need to get out of the spiral
1 likeI feel you too
0 likes3 of my videos on 5-Minute Crafts got taken down by copyright.
Boi they gonna add counter measures for part 2, you feeding em ):
0 likes2:30 minutes in and we get our first mention of YouTube poop. Never change.
4 likesHot Take: Ronald McDonald is hella thicc
2 likesBruh I cannot freaking breathe this is the best video ever made
0 likesReady to learn, Professor Lemon.
0 likessome dumb things ive seen happen with youtubes copyright system include
0 likesguy 1 gets permission from guy 2 to use their music, still gets claimed
guy 3 uploads 10 seconds of complete black (title was "read description") gets claimed by guy 4 since their song has a part with no sound
guy 5 has the power to (luckily didnt use it) claim basically any video with the japanese intro cutscene of ocarina of time
guy 6 gets striked by wbm when he used music from mario
guy 7 gets striked by guy 8 because of differing political opinions
guy 9 gets claimed by sony for uploading his own music
guy 10 gets claimed 30 times by sony in the span of less than a minute for using nothing
guy 11 gets striked for using audio that was used by guy 12 in a remix 10 months later
guy 12 gets ALL his videos claimed by disney when he as far as i know has never done anything at all related to disney
and finally
guy 13 gets his channel taken down after 4 years for using 2 seconds of a clip in one video thanks disney again
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did i mention that animal rights groups are going after google for using monkeys to do work because people were saying their bots are horrible and so they use monkeys instead for certain things which is where the "highly trained monkeys" message comes from so this whole time they have been using monkeys for most of the work
0 likesI Didn't get this in my sub feed or recommended, I got it from part 2's link, SMH youtube this is a good video
0 likesI cannot fathom how so many Youtubers are still so Capitalist, even after all the crap Capitalism does to them. Copyright abuse isn't a bug of the system; it's a feature.
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Yeah and converting to socialism or communism isn’t going to fix the system
0 likesYup that's how I lost my first channel made in 2009 on 2014
0 likesBut I came back, and stronger ans wiser then ever beofre
I wish I can tag WWE in here just to make them see you flipping them off :))
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Ironically AEW actually started copyright claiming videos over petty shit.
0 likes@JLR84 what they've been doing are all petty shit
0 likesAll Ex WWE
Love the Persona 5 soundrack in the background, the music from that is so good lol
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0 likesI'm finding it harder and harder to stay on youtube. Not as a creator, but just as a viewer. A lot of my fav youtubers have been moving off of YouTube onto private websights. and I fully support them. Most requir
0 likese me to pay like 3 bucks a month, but I'm totally fine supporting them that way.
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We're going back to 2005
0 likesWaiting for part 2 for over a month, also how that nordvpn sponsor working out for you :P
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I'm gonna bet Part 2 is going to be sponsored by ExpressVPN, since Nord is now likely a lost cause.
0 likes@Deley18 Nah, it's gonna be shadow legends
1 likeI used to make music. Terrible music, albeit, but it was music I made. Don't think I ever made a dime off it, and I think I had it up for something like 4-5 years or so, even after the point where I was no longer proud of it.
1 likeBut I'll be damned if I didn't dispute the copyright claim the bitch that claimed my song as their own. I must have gotten lucky or something since my dispute was upheld. But yeah, this was probably about 2013 or so, and the fact that it's happening on bigger creators who make actually good music... I couldn't even imagine being in that situation. I'd lose my shit.
I remember doing a musical cover of a Chrono Trigger song a few years ago.
10 likesIt got claimed by Warner Brothers.
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How the fu-
4 likes@ነፕልዪዕሁነፕ No idea.
0 likesThey dont even OWN Chrono Trigger
0 likesHey emp do you ever think you will ever do minute memes again? I found them really entertaining and I liked to see your view on memes
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He said he will never create any more minute memes for now
0 likesRail videos require zero copyright and often zero editing ;-)
0 likesI just got NordVPN 3 years at 70% off literally 2 weeks ago with no affiliate code or anything like that.... its just a sale they're having I got 3 years for like 3.50 a month
1 likeThat plug for the AEW killed me
0 likes>emplemon uploads
68 likes>my day is instantly better
Edit: I love how my low effort comment gets 59 likes but my historical analysis mini essay on the state of YouTube gets 1, but im not complaining, thanks mates
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And your pleasure is measurable?
2 likesDonutgames00 fair
1 likeAre you talking about another comment you left or a video essay? Bc in my experience people usually don't read long comments, long comments will sometimes be top comment, but they're just one essay out of hundreds. If you make that into a video or podcast, you're way more likely to get a response
0 likesEcrivon Lunyx it was a comment, and you’re not wrong, I noticed that trend to, that was kinda my point by saying that, I just find it funny I guess.
0 likes(Also I don’t have means of making it a podcast or video or anything)
14:51 That moment when you recognize a random thumbnail of a 6 year old video.
0 likesI miss old STAR_...
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We all miss him.
0 likesUMG copyright claimed a 5 secone video i made that said I was live on twitch. No audio. Just a black background and white text.
0 likesboycott.UMG AND YouTube
Shout-out to the fact the Fantano gave both MTBMB and My Dark And Twisted Fantasy 6's
0 likesAlmost two years in, are you still watching AEW? If so, what’re your thoughts on the promotion?
0 likesPlease make a video where you just rant as Joker Emp about society for an hour.
9 likesCan't believe we still care about Fair Use in 2020.
0 likesCorporations being corporation, dont ya love it
0 likesThat is the best sponsored promotion ive seen in a video
0 likesJust use the pro strategy by The Original Ace: Copyright claim your own video
0 likes11:23 Actually tho go watch MauLer. He's a really good channel and makes extensive high-quality uploads. He deserves to be more popular-just like EmpLemon here.
0 likesEvery youtuber in the universe: get nordVPN
1 likeHonestly, this is why YouTubers need to form a legal defense collective. Something like an insurance fund for legal fees, where you buy in for legal protection from greedy and overzealous media conglomerates infringing on all of our rights. The music reviewer who can't play clips of something that he should be legally entitled to use is one of the most heartbreaking and disgusting things I've ever seen. The government isn't going to change any of these laws, I think it's time to start lawyering up and suing some of these companies into compliance with, you know, the fucking explicit letter of the law. I'm so sick of this myth that's been spread around that fair use is this murky and ill defined thing, when in many cases it just simply isn't I'll defined at all. Education and critique are very, very explicitly protected parts of free speech, but these are always the aspects that the misinformation floating around always tries to claim is poorly tested in court, when this is just not true. Criticism, especially, is one of the most consistently upheld aspects of fair use in American copyright law, since attempting to use the courts in a way that even kind of smells like an attempt to censor detracting speech is generally met with open scorn by judges and there are oodles of examples of companies and people having their cases dismissed with prejudice and getting the entire bookcase hucked through their heads for trying it.
0 likesSide note: I love it when judges get really fired up and shred someone who deserves it to pieces. I think it's just a satisfying mix of righteous anger being doled out by someone who's probably the smartest person in the room and who also has a lot of power and authority and you're not the one being hit by the death laser. It's like the grown up version of watching the teacher yell at that kid who you just fucking hate when they really deserve it (double fun if you were doing the exact same thing but just narrowly avoided being seen doing it.)
So wait. Is that why you made the Simpsons green to get around the copyright system if so that is genius.
0 likesYouTube has been in such a downward spiral since 2016. ❌ 🧢.
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Like most of the internet
13 likes2016 was a craaazy year....
8 likesFirst Name Last Name my favorite year I’ve lived through. It was so full of hilarity
6 likesIt was going down the shitter way before 2016, people didn't notice/didn't care.
6 likes2014 was even we all died and went to hell
1 likeOnly now, have we been able to manage building our own torturous paradise.
Just like you,I only want MY content to be seen
1 likeThe Kurzgesagt example though is actually an example where not using any copyrighted content actually improved the content. You can always spot a Kurzgesagt video on the music alone, and having the ability to just compose your own music allows you to create a song for a specific purpose, which can significantly improve the effect it has. And having it to where you can also adjust the animation to the music you made can give an extremely good impression. It also makes your videos extremely unique, because there is quite literally no other channel with the same exact music and animation. All of these good qualities are best shown in my favorite Kurzgesagt video "the limits of humanity"
0 likesBut the main issue is that even though it can be beneficial for large channels with several million subscribers like Kurzgesagt, smaller channels simply do not have the assets to achieve this. They dont have teams of animators, researchers, directors, artist, and composers. This is also shown by the fact that even though the Kurzgesagt team has quite a few people and gets ton of professional help, they only upload once every couple weeks. And small channels simply cant do that unless they are corporately funded.
Hey emp, I was in the ytp game back in the day and remember when you were small time, my account was squidwong really small. Remember cartoonlpver98? Whatever happened to that guy
0 likesYOUTUBE HAS BEEN ON A DOWNWARD SPIRAL DOWNWARD SPIRAL HASN’T STOPPED SINCE 2016
1 likeCompanies who sponsor youtubers directly are really hot and are what's supporting true and uncensored content
0 likesHoly shit the nostalgia shot I got when I read your name
0 likesEmplemon, the ftc are making it where videos that appeal to children cannot be seeable, isn't recommended or suggested and hits you with a $42,000 fine, per video.
0 likesSo you're saying they're stealing from you? Boycott them and make your own youtube.
0 likesThe G&W sound effects made me feel so strange
0 likesYou're not going to get legal copyright problems with animation or music unless you really go out of your way to copy something lol It needs to have a pretty obvious likeness to get any kind of legal grounds... They'd even get a load of crap to deal with...
0 likes"If you send a cease-and-desist letter to an infringer, there is a risk that the infringer may file a lawsuit in the infringer’s jurisdiction naming you as a defendant and seeking a declaratory judgment that your copyright is invalid. One recent court decision found that the sending of a single cease-and-desist letter into the state was enough to subject the defendant to personal jurisdiction in that state.
If you send a DMCA takedown notice that is both false and meant in bad faith (such as to harass, or doesn’t state a real claim), you have committed perjury. Though unlikely, if the party you sent the takedown notice to decided to pursue this in court, you could face all of the consequences that your state imposes on people who lie in court.
If you sue someone for copyright infringement in an attempt to harass that person and you lose because there was no infringement, the attorneys’ fees provisions may take effect, and you may be forced to pay the other side’s lawyer’s fees"
- new media rights
There may never ever be a sequel to this video
0 likes12:30 i remember when the yt icon was a TV, and being able to watch a whole pokémon movie
2 likesOh dear, 21 minutes only being a part 1. Let's see what Emp has in store for us
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"Aw, shit! Here we go again."
0 likesI think some of these bootleggers are actually fans of the movie/show they are uploading, & they probably are doing so because they know it'll be the only way to watch it later on.
1 likeFor example, there is this show called Captain Simian And the Space Monkeys which has seemingly never gotten a home media release(in the USA at least, apparently France got a VHS release of the 1st episode), & is no longer airing on any channel at all. So what are people going to do other than just upload full episodes onto YouTube? Heck, the copyright holders of that show don't seem to even CARE about the fact that they are uploading entire episodes unedited.
We live in the age of entitlement and outrage. I just hope this garbage dies down by the time I'm in my 40's.
0 likesBig companies are ran by people who are completely out of touch with reality and still live in the era before Youtube, so it doesn't matter whether claiming or taking down the video makes sense or not.
0 likesThey don't understand that it's free advertising. They don't understand that they could just upload their stuff to Youtube and earn a shit ton of money. Well, at least most companies are like that. Gaming companies (especially SEGA) seem to get that at least partially. They even uploaded some of their songs to the official Sonic channel and let their marketing team do bi-weekly livestreams. It works great for marketing.
I also want to add that I got introduced to the Sonic franchise through fangames and videos and will propably stay with it for the rest of my life because of how good their music is. Hell, I might even buy some of that music despite it being available on Youtube, just like I did with Minecraft after years of using a cracked launcher.
My point is, companies are dumb and fan content is free marketing.
The HungryBox video is what brought me in, but this is the video that made me sub. You rock.
0 likesMy question to everyone who watched through the whole video: Did you just watch an episode of Simpsons just then?
26 likesI rest my case.
I got a vid yoinked because it had "funky town" in the title. I literally danced to no music. That was the joke. I knew they would pull some bullshit.
0 likesso glad i found this channel
0 likescheers
0 likesgod bless the bootleggers.
the last bastions of the old internet.
This really says we live in a society
0 likes> Start a platform to compete with YouTube
0 likes> Don't give rights holders any tools to automagically take down "copyrighted" content.
> Have channels tagged if they use any content picked up by your automated ID system.
> Hire people to MANUALLY REVIEW THE FLAGGED CONTENT
> Don't give any big music/movie industry companies access (to create accounts, for example).
If the big music/movie companies decide they want to file a class-action lawsuit against your media company, play ball. Take them to court, not only for attempted extortion, but for literally getting butthurt because you were complying with the fair use clause of the DMCA.
Bootleg something off them. Then claim their video first.
0 likesyou tubers should just all get together and sue youtube for all of the lost revanue, thats like billions of dollars from false claims
0 likesthis channel is a treasure
0 likesSometimes it feels like you grab the music for your videos from a music folder identical to mine.
5 likesHey, Emp. Regarding the subject matter, I messaged you about this before but did you know your YouTube Poop (particularly “Lightning McQueer & The Quest For Tires”) is blocked by SME because of copyright © and what are you going to do about it? Also, what happened to your “Drake & Josh YouTube Poop Collaboration?”
0 likesEmpLemon sounds just enough like Christian Slater to give me Mr. Robot flashbacks with his ending section.
0 likesWhat software do you use for making your videos?
0 likes16:32 is so relatable it hurts
0 likesStill waiting for the day Revenge gets taken down for copyright. Because let’s face it, not even that would be safe by now.
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I mean, that already happened in 2016, so I hope it won’t do it again... hopefully...
2 likesI made a review of nascar vs f1 and I was praising f1 and shitting on nascar and fucking liberty media took down my video over a minute of a highlight clip i used for a background that I even sped up.
0 likesIt's why I ultimately gave up trying to make content. It had 3k views which to me is like a 1M to big youtubers and it had a lot of interaction. It fucking infuriates me that YouTube allows this shit to happen
The video that could've launched my channel fucking dead in the waters.
Loving all the tf2 references
0 likesMe a new sub here, is it just me or does YouTube crash/closes on all of the video that are slightly controversial. Happened twice one you. Maybe its just me but still its worrisome.
1 likeThe 2 videos i got a claim are just demonetized which i couldn't give a shit about (one was blocked in one country), i upload videos for entertainment to others and friends, i'm kinda nervous to upload the next video since its a ytpmv with a copyrighted song. So i'm a transformer by the way.
0 likesOversimplified and Emplemon upload in the same day!? It’s a Saturday miracle!!
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Hi five brother
1 likeEnough is enough, still the best poop ever concieved imho.
0 likesI like the persona music, keep up the great work!
0 likesWell YouTube definitely doesn't have this video in my sub box.... hmmmmmmm
5 likesyoutube algorithm aboutta watch your next video and learn all the secrets
0 likesi cant believe you left out 009 Sound System - Dreamscape , unbelievable
16 likesJust make a youtube channel upload some stuff Copyright the stuff then put them In your videos and if it get's clamed you can get 90% of the revenue if you only have 9 alt accounts with stuf that make you able to claim your own videos atleast that's what the original Ace says In his abusing the youtube Copyright sydtrm
1 likeYoutube cancelled the partner of my whole channel because I made Source Filmmaker videos about Shrek and Hitler having romantic adventures....
1 likeThe worst is when a record company claims you used a song because the songwriter sampled a clip from a movie, and you used the same clip. So essentially they claim you’re violating fair use by using this thing they used under fair use!
0 likesHas anyone taken these big corpos to court? No?
0 likesWell this problem will go on, then. Keep complaining you guys, nothing will happen.
Don't remind me about that Happy Tree Friends animation. I remember when I read the news that it existed several years ago. I still used YouTube to watch Naruto in three parts (remember when that was a thing), so I was really pissed off at Mondo. I don't think I've watched a single animation of them since then.
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I loved Happy Tree Friends when it was on G4tv what happened?
0 likesI wonder how many claims this video'll get lmao
0 likeshonestly like i put so many songs in my videos 90% of the time it doesnt recognize it at all
0 likesI wonder if the copyrighted content in this vid has been spotted by the mothership
0 likes>plays Zircons music
0 likesDang you got good taste emplemon 👌
If pewdiepie can get copyrighted for singing someone else's song, Kurzgesagt can theoretically get copyrighted for drawing a Pokemon. It probably won't, though.
0 likesI guess Joker Emp penetrated the system! ;)
0 likesNord VPN's been hacked now, so idk if those VPN sponsorships are as concrete as they one were
0 likesI have 2 copyright strikes for 2 covers I've made. Fuck YouTube.
1 likeI see Emp has been using a lot of smash music.
18 likesBanned.
It's a bit ironic how you show MST3K as a way to watch movies, when many, many, many episodes that have been uploaded by users not affiliated with the show are being removed by those who ARE affiliated with the show, or by the CR owner of the movie being lampooned.
0 likes4:48 I can't believe I just heard Karn Evil 9 actually used in anything, EVER
0 likesWhat a strange move. The only smart move is not to play. We should all switch to Peertube.
0 likesDecentralized, federated, you can run your own instance and have users on it be able to view videos on other instances. It's like if you could watch videos on Vimeo from YouTube. Also there's no ads, but making money would be harder... No grifters!
I saw you were using a song from elp in there 👌 good placement for it
0 likesHow about all of the creators just put 50 dollars each into a project to sue youtube because of fair rights infringement?
0 likesYou cant just drop Mumbo Jumbo's face like that
0 likesI've just copyrighted the word ContentID™®©
0 likesImmagonnaberich!
God bless the bootleggers
1 likeI wonder how many people complaining about big corporations controlling YT also vote for people who give tax breaks for big corporations and will argue in other areas that they trust businesses rather than government with their best interests.
0 likeswill Emp copyright the [Downward Spiral] ?
0 likesMeesa think lemon has been on a downward spiral and he's still loosing it completely.
0 likeswow you actually got paid for the advertising at the end lmao
0 likesBy now I think we all know what Youtube Poop really means
3 likesWhat the fuck? I paused the video at 3:30 and got lost in my own thoughts and remembered how good Shawshank redemption was when I saw it earlier today. And what do I see two seconds later? One of the best god damn scenes from the movie.
0 likesDONT RELEASE PART 2 ON YT THEY WILL JUST USE IT AGAINST YOU!
0 likesUPLOAD ON BITCHUTE NO ONE CARES OVER THERE!
It would be ironic as all hell of this video got claimed.
0 likesI made a music video for my channel. Literally made everything from scratch, the song and visuals. Copy striked. fml
0 likesGood lord do I have some stories about copyright claims
0 likesYoutube is getting out of hand with the claims. They did a Worldwide block on a Maopost.
0 likesThe Joker/Trump mash-up creeped me the f out. Nolan's writers couldn't come up with anything that disturbing
1 likeYouTube's own policies is eventually what will be it's own downfall. YouTube sucks these days and it's why I dont upload content anymore
0 likesThe safest one you said of just talking to a webcam isn't save because you might say a sentence that was used in a song once.
0 likesBruh that bootlegger drop was hilarious lol
0 likes18:26 LOOOLLLL, and Raw is still ass to this day, I always wondered how you were able to get away with playing wrestling themes in ur old vids, like u played Jericho’s, and I forget which wrestling theme it was, but u damn near played the entire theme. Ig u got too big, and u were put on the radar. But idk if AEW’s copyright is any better, ik they copyright AEW botches a lot, but I never of any wrestling youtuber complain about AEW taking down their stuff
0 likesSomeone draw Emp-lemon as a transformer
1 likeEmplemon using Persona 5 music? Very cool man, very cool.
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Ew anime profile picture
2 likes@Tom245332 Watch Death Note, you'll really like it. There's a great character named L. That detective has crazy skills.
5 likes@Cretin H I never played Persona 5 but the soundtracks in that game sounds like sang in English and pretty much Jazz to me
9 likesYou'll never see it coming
@Cretin H True intellectuals know that my profile picture matches the choice of music
6 likesEveryone knows weebs don’t equal chads, let betas be betas guys
4 likes@Peter Parker This does not apply to Yu Narukami though, he is a verified chad.
6 likesBy who’s standards
0 likes@Peter Parker search Chad Narukami
7 likesY'all don't know what a perfect game is until you've played persona 5
2 likesWe got another one boys...we got another one.
1 likeWow. This gives me some serious Persona vibes.
0 likes18:00-18:35
0 likesYou basically shitting on WWE was the best thing I have ever seen.
AEW is going to be fucking awesome!!
kurzgesagt sometimes steals their video ideas and scripts from lesser known youtubers
0 likesAndy Warhol's art is definitely an ad for campbells soup
0 likesanyone else just happy EmpLemon posted (:
0 likesEmpLemon: Never thought I had to comeback to this downward spiral...
7 likesYoutube: Oh ho, are you approaching me?
Emplemon: I can't rant out my feelings, evidence, and anything else unless I beat the crap out of your ass...
YouTube: oh, then come as close as you like...
What about the demonetisation metagame?
0 likesThe clip at 13:10 was amazing. Where can I find it?
1 like2:33 all rise for the youtube national anthem
1 likeLove the use of TF2 clips.
1 likeEmplemon: incorporates prog rock into backgroud music
12 likesturns to camera
Like a boss!
My Nutcracker video went through a fuck ton of claims and takedowns by Disney. Its up now but the footage has to be massively edited but I still can't make money off it if I wanted to.
0 likesI once got a video deleted because I threw a calculator at a patio
1 likeVid seems to imply that people need to use copyrighted content in order to make good videos...
0 likesI wonder if all the smash Bros music put in this video specifically is made to reference the falling of BrawlBRTSTM and GiIvasunner
0 likesI for one, am glad we are stuck with you.
3 likesWhat I learned: the youtube copyright system is an anarcho-capitalist dystopia
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You can’t have anarchy and capitalism, that’s quite contradictory
0 likes@rose_Gaming I know, but "anarcho"-capitalist is what these people call themselves
1 like@NanUser that’s weird
0 likesThat's a funny way of spelling joke.
0 likesMasterpiece!
0 likesIf we create a bunch of accounts and claim their videos, we can spam them into getting rid of it or making it too complex to claim troll
0 likesWhen deadman, routenote etc. claims the original song
0 likesFunny I literally listen to all my music on YouTube
0 likesPoor pyro, all of his videos were copyrighted because of one clip of a song with a sample from UMG..
0 likesgod I enjoy your taste in music EmpLem
0 likesr.i.p. Emerson and Lake
Corporate companies taking advantage of copyright? Naaaahh!
0 likesIt detected a song that was so low you couldn't even hear it in the video. I couldn't even hear it.
0 likes2:30 So you're telling me that people making tutorials back then didn't just like this song for no fucking reason?
0 likesTwitch is now suffering from this
0 likesYouTube: Broadcast Yourself™
1 likeGood morning kind sir, i am a youtube bot, and i've seen more than 10 seconds of a Spongebob clip, i will demonetize you.
3 likesI literally only have 2 videos on my channel and they are shitty beats I made when I was bored in 11th grade yet I still got a claim on one of my videos because the claimant had a song that used the same sample I got from Looperman. Very cool
0 likesTerrible news, Emplemon! YouTube is making new Terms of Service that will suspend or terminate your channel!
2 likesYT uploader: I want to upload a video to generate ad revenue.
0 likesCopyright holder: Yeah.
YTU: I could do all the work to make my own assets.
CH: Uh-huh.
YTU: But making assets is really hard work.
CH: Tell me about it.
YTU: So I want to use your assets.
CH: Makes a lot of sense.
YTU: But I don't want to pay you for the use of your assets.
CH: Right.
YTU: And I don't want you to get the ad revenue - you see, I want that ad revenue. If you got the ad revenue, that would be you stealing my hard work.
CH: The best option would be to make your own assets, then, and reap the benefits. Or use our valuable assets and pay us.
YTU: YOU FASCIST
CH: :/
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missed a part
1 likeYTU: i want to include your assets without paying you
CH: okay...
YTU:but your assets will only comprise a fraction of my video
CH: yeah
YTU: therefore, the revenue i gain from this video will be only be due fractionally to your assets
CH: makes sense
YTU: i did not transform your assets, so you have a legal and logical right to take advantage of those assets' usage.
CH: damn right
YTU: and clearly, youre only entitled to that aforementioned fraction of revenue, right?
CH: nah, we'll take all the revenue
YTU: :/
@Henry Martin That assumes the assets are of equal value. If the YTU assets are generated by a schlub with a potato webcam and free A/V editing software, the value per minute of YTU content is very low. If the CH assets are created by professionals and are cherry-picked to include only the most valuable slices of a commercial or something, and that commercial is valuable because of significant investment by the CH, then the CH assets are extremely valuable per minute. Remember that a McDonald's commercial for example is valuable not only because the company made the asset, but they paid a lot to distribute it, and most of its value is in the brand recognition of the company itself which was developed over a very long time and cost a LOT of money to do.
0 likesWhat that leads to is a 10-minute video where 9 minutes is almost worthless because the YTU assets are cheap cheap cheap, and 1 minute of CH assets which are incredibly valuable in comparison. Let's call it 9 minutes at a penny a minute but 1 minute at $99.91 a minute. Those numbers may not be accurate but the relationship between them is. Possibly more generous to the YTU than we should be.
If the video generates $10 in ad revenue, it would be appropriate for the YTU to take almost 1 cent and for the CH to take the remaining $9.99. Which is so close to taking the whole enchilada that the distinction is meaningless.
As an example of just how cheap user-generated content is, it took me a couple minutes to formulate this excellent response against which there can be no defense, but for no pay, and if any company were hiring me to do it they'd have paid me something like $1.00 gross wages.
That said, we live in a culture where property ownership is a thing. I can't come into your home and feed cattle there without your permission. So the relative values don't actually matter; all that matters is that the YTU uses content he didn't have a right to. The penalty for that infringement is loss of revenue from the work containing stolen assets. And everyone knows that before we even start. So it's a choice, and a gamble, that the YTU is hoping not to get caught. If he wanted to actually make a deal with the CH instead of sneaking assets, he could try. But CH's offered deal would probably be pretty damn close to 99.99:1.
It would've been funnier if you called Derek Savage "Daddy Derek"
55 likeshey. i have a question. This will be not solved by the rule 14 in Europe.
0 likesCan someone explain to me what changes now with EU new rule about content?
that’s how the law works.
0 likesI hear that persona 5 soundtrack….
3 likesCan't we just all up and go to another platform?
0 likesPersona 5 music? You're even more cultured than I thought!
3 likesI guess we have to make our own music.
0 likesI'm addicted to this mans content
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same
0 likesCan you please do another Never Ever on a Formula 1 driver? Michael Schumacher, Ayrton Senna, etc please
0 likesDoes anyone remember the CONJOPI guys back in 2010 and how they got Chuggaconroy, NintendoCapriSun’s, and possibly more let’s play channels suspended because of the stupid copyright claim system?
0 likesYou used Karn Evil 9 (Carnival 9) by Emerson, Lake and Palmer in a video that references clown world, wanton abuse of power and ownership of entertainment content. I can't tell if you're a genius or just into really great music... or both.
11 likesDamn, that was good!
0 likesAfter 6:08 minutes I realized I have already watched this video
0 likesBoot-leggers sounds like an underground crime syndicate
0 likesShame ytps have just been wiped off the site
0 likesI mean, at this point we should just wait for Susan Wajawdjloski to retire.
0 likesCracked up when you started talking about watching AEW
0 likes11:28 Shoutout to Mauler and the EFAP crew. Praise be to the Don.
0 likes6:32 oh holy shit what do you know? My names on this video...
2 likescopystrikes intensifies
14:06 I'm done with internet historian and the downward spiral
7 likesI am positively jazzed to hear a cover of Karn Evil 9 1st Impression pt. 2
0 likesIt is not only right, but encouraged to use adblock in 2019.
0 likes13:05 Can we just address what kind of intro this is?
0 likesThe McMangos shoutout yesss dude you're legit (besides all these dope vidumentaries)
0 likes4:36 yo did lumpy just memorize that whole url
0 likesI'm very happy with the use of Smash and Persona 5 music
0 likeslove how he just used a sr pelo clip
0 likesI love your editing is very cool
0 likesemperorlemon has entered a new phase... the CLOWNWARD SPIRAL
3 likesThere will never be another group like n.w.a
0 likesthe feeeeeeeelin' gets to the brain
0 likesThat's capitalism in action boys
0 likesMan dissed WWE for copyrighting just for AEW to attack even worse
0 likes14:52 boi that was the slickest thing I’ve ever heard
0 likesWe should boicot youtube
0 likesThat Freddy Ruins Sam's Life soundbite though hahaha
0 likesI have seen if you use clips less than 10 sec they would not be labled copyright. Correct me if Im wrong
0 likesCan we plz have a full ytp of trump as the joker? I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddddddddd it
38 likesand then there is the nerf yotubers who upload game photage who can upload raw while putting in the effort in the content itself
0 likesIs that an Emerson, Lake, And Palmer remix playing throughout the video?
1 likeEdit: just saw the music used link. Nice.
That Persona song at the Cold Turkey part hit me riiiight here.
0 likes6:19 unless your house are copyrighted :<
0 likes15:46 I never knew about this. LOOK AT ME, I AM THE CAPTAIN, NOW!
0 likesYouTube’s copyright downward spiral
0 likesReally love all the tf2 stuff
0 likesPart1????? I need 2!
0 likes2:51 Did they have to make up countries for this?! XD
4 likesThat is the best ad for nordvpn I've seen yet
0 likesI’m betting this got copyright claimed
0 likes19:58
1 likeDon't touch that dial now, we're just getting started.
13:22. Thank you for playing Happy Landfill
0 likesYo Mr downward spiral i could compare your hiatuses to something like berserk but then again at least you don't upload shit between your masterpieces so it's worth the wait.
5 likesDamn what about pyro losing all of his videos for a sample in his end song
0 likesNever Ever Idea: There will Never Ever be another company like Nintendo
1 likePart II might be about COPPA Now?
0 likesWhy is the ad in the end actually good why is the video good why did I never watch emp lemon before
0 likesmay not be about the videos topic but damn Karn Evil 9 playing in the background made me so happy
6 likesWhy doesn't every small youtuber just decide a day where they all go around claiming every single video that isn't theirs? Might send a message.
0 likesImagine watching the first 1,2 minutes while tripping... no thx pls no NOOO.
0 likes#justiceforactman
2 likesWasn't one of pewdiepie's videos claimed because he said Despacito? Oh yes, I remember when you could get copyrigjt striked for saying a word in spanish. I swear that if you write a song and it has 3 notes in a row that happen to be in another song, oh no you're getting sued for these 3 notes in your origional song. It's even gitten to the point where a company like sony will claim a song they don't even own, Sony claimed a video of a woman playing the piano and it was because of a song they "owned". So what song did they "own"? Bach, they apparently "own" the music of Bach. To go even farther, I could bet that if you flashed a single frame of an episode of spongebob in your video your video would then become claimed, in which now it will have little to no ads, and any money you do earn is instantly lost to the company who claimed your video.
0 likesYou know what's even dumber? It's likely that you could get your video claimed by referring to a sponge who wears pants, but then if another tv show made by another company than the one who owns spongebob, well, we can't sue them if they have an episode in the background, now can we. Since Youtube is an American company you'd think they'd try to have a petition or something to try an get a law passed that could help content creators for the platform and other platforms as well, and even if it doesn't get passed at least they would've tried. U.S. law states that if a petition gets enough signitures the government has to address it. (This is off topic, but the reason why I know about this law is because apparently enough people signed a petition to have the U.S. government create a life size death star, and of course it wasn't passed, but this shows that the U.S. government would have to address petitions.) I don't know the specifica on how a law like that would work, but I know that if a law in one country can affect other countrie's experiences on youtube negatively (COPPA and Article 13) then laws passed in one place should be able to affect youtube across the world positively as well.
(Guitar riff) Time to play the game......(Guitar riff) TIME TO PLAY THE GAAAAAAAAAMMMME!!!!
4 likesReplies (1)
pLaY tHe gAaAaAAmE
0 likesYour a god damned hero muh lorwd!
0 likesNeeded now more than ever, this series. Fuck copyright law.
0 likesNaughty naughty YouTube we seriously should just make a new website at this point join together to create a new and better place but one can dream
0 likeshow about the "epic meme compilation"on youtube now? is that a same thing?
0 likesvery nice Ronald McDonald insanity cameo god damn i love touhou
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ran ran ruu
4 likesRan Ran Ruu!
2 likesDonald McDonald*
0 likesPeasant
@Le Bro what?
0 likes@ThiccAstley
2 likesRonald is called Donald McDonald in Japan.
What if I just never monitize my videos?
0 likes17:20 - Probably a bad example
0 likesNever thought I’d hear “Karn Evil 9” by ELP in a YouTube video, wow
0 likesThats not exactly what transformative means, though.
0 likes13:20 the real political spectrum
0 likesspeaking of imcompetent
1 likeYoutube
WWE Takes Off Ad Revenue off of a video praising there content
7 likesEmp: You have created the very thing you swore to destroy
Any movie + Brazilian Portuguese dubbing = no copy strike 🏴☠️
0 likesWHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!?!
6 likesKrmaL actually get his Low Death video unblocked by appealing, so it's not completely useless
0 likes12:29 Brazillian Bootleg upload. I'm very proud
0 likesWhatever happened to the part 2 of this?
0 likesThe Sponsorship did not age well, Oof
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To be fair though, even experts in vpn services were recommending nordvpn. Nobody knew about the breach, until it was reported on. I mean if your gonna take a sponsor, at least do it on some creditable company.
2 likesSo it's really nobodies fault for accepting the sponsor money from nordvpn.
If you play EmpLemon at .75 speed it sounds like Chills of Top15s
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Holy shit
3 likesI'm going to have to leave a dislike for not playing the drop of YouTube's national anthem
0 likesThis video is just too good
0 likesLast vid I heard Jethro Tull, this video I hear ELP, subbed.
0 likesAt the moment I dont care about money but when I will eventually care I will be pissed
0 likes14:00 I recognize the clip from my Fresh Comp. Skills college class
3 likesThis is why I encourage everyone to always have adblock, ublock origin and whatever other add-ons to block ads on youtube, on at all times.
0 likesNordVPN lol
0 likesThat aged badly.
5:46 that would be a gradient not a spectrum
0 likesNow how can we create a vid/post that can destroy the bots?
0 likesTheirs nothing we can do, all we can do is wait until a new competitor to YouTube and jump ship.
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A man can dream.
1 likebit chute
0 likesNo chance. The corporations will be on it before you will.
0 likes+D
0 likesmy ass, why would they bother?
I respect you for using Jerma's jokes and Star_ pictures ;;;;)))
0 likesVimeo:
0 likesMy time has come
Socialism is what would save youtube.
0 likesThe creators should democratically run the system.
Those bastards took away the uncredibles. Too far YouTube.. too far!!
0 likesAw shit, here we rant again.
12 likesdidn't see that sponsor coming
0 likeshmm over 99% likes, must be a great video...based on the EmpLemon scale.
0 likesI thought 1984 by George Orwell was a fiction
0 likesDoes anyone have a link to part 1 of Youtube Copyright School???
0 likesThe Boot-Leggers:
0 likesGANG-PLANK GALLEON STARTS PLAYING
>Blocked in 248 countries
1 like>there are 195
You're forgetting Israel 2-54
Where's the part 2?
3 likesGreat video
0 likesHey wait a minute. You used MY Mr. Clean trademark! I'm suing!!!!! I'm suing!!!!!
0 likesI just rely on making money on the outside and not relying on being paid by corporate greedhogs.
0 likesHere before part II for once in my life
0 likesIm glad prager u is takeing YouTube to cort on copyright
0 likes999k subs man been here since 2016 im happy to see u hit 1mll
0 likeswouldn't it be more bullshit if this video were to be unironically be taken by a big company?
0 likesI bet this video got copyrighted hard.
0 likesHOW DARE YOU MUTE 009 SOUND SYSTEM
0 likesYOU CAN BE WHATEVER YOU WANT WHEN YOU'RE HIGH
I was going to watch porn but i guess i have to watch this now instead
10 likesReplies (2)
Porn is less and less interesting the more time goes by
2 likesAndrew Demidov emplemon however only gets better with time
0 likesYoutubers need to pool their money together and put in a class action lawsuit.
0 likesReplies (1)
They tried but H3H3 stoled the money
0 likes1:10
1 likeLemon, are you a touhou fan?
Please, Lemon. Please tell me.
this is good entertainment
1 likehold up, I feel like an idiot right now but is the downward spiral theme just the mario 64 infinite staircase theme in reverse?
0 likes14:34 i don’t’ agree with you if I want to watch the incredible I watch the uncredible and the noncredible and maybe the excredible if I’m really feeling like hearing sus in 2019
5 likesWhen are you hopping on the Yang train Emp?
0 likesYour remix of the incredibles is better than the incredibles 2 in every way.
0 likes>people AND corporations
0 likesDoesn't that guy know that those are the same thing?
you put Nintendo music in a video about copyright? Mad Lad.
1 likeHow the heck do we even fix this shit show?
4 likesReplies (1)
Sue The Companies That Spam-Report Using Bots
0 likesThey Also Try To Trample Upon Fair Use
You kinda gave credit to rusty cage when simian jimmy made that background music-
0 likesI like the subtle MST3K reference
0 likesYo if someone's video is monetized and an Ad plays I won't buy your shit just for putting ads on YouTube. That way media won't want anything to do with it and will instead do sponsorships like NordVPN.
1 likeDidn't expect to see Mumbo Jumbo in this video
1 likeI appreciate all the Smash Bros. music
0 likes12:15
0 likesI actually remember that video...
I also can't wait to watch AEW on TNT sir...
0 likesThAnk u soooo much for this
0 likesPersona music??? In my emplemon video??? Perfection.
0 likesVimeo exists. Abandon shitty and abusive platforms
0 likesReally cool music that you wrote at 19:38 mind if I use it?
0 likesIf you post an entire song into the Youtube comment section could you get a copyright strike?
0 likes10:57 “Commentary channels”
10 likesshows clips from a Sr Pelo video
Aaaaahahahhaahhahahahahahahaa
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Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder AHHAHAHA
0 likesSr Pelo IS a commentary channel
0 likesBut companies are people, my friend.
0 likesThis was all funny in the past but dis shit is getting too real like the downward spiral theme is hitting too hard
1 likeTip: can’t be demonetized if you weren’t monetized in the first place
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Pro gamer move
0 likes13:05 i really didn't need to see that
2 likes2:33 Aw, I wanted to hear that. :-(
3 likesjust claim your own videos goddamit its not that hard
0 likessee i work on music and i want to upload to youtube but FUCK UMG i've been hit by them once for something they did not have the rights to at all but they wanted to make money of it anyway and i had to take down the song (the funny thing is it wasnt even a good song it was when i was just starting out making trash)
0 likesThat one persona track, thanks for that
0 likes"Downward spiral!"
1 likeHow many copyrighted things used in this one video !!!??
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ESC Pro
5 likesZero.
Yes
1 likeYoutuber: Has 5 seconds of a song.
2 likesUMG: I'm gonna end this man's whoke career.
YouTube: Broadcasting yourself or the company?
0 likesOk this is bullshit. I have bell notifications on and YouTube decides to not notify when emp posts.
1 likewe live in a society.
1 likeYou hate to see it.
I saw that STAR_ thumbnail at 14:53 👀🤭
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It's a STAR_ fan!
1 likeGive me a five, pal!
you know what else i saw at 14:53? the last year of byzantium and the final death of the roman empire at the hands of the ottomans.
1 likeSTAR_ and Jerma are the best
1 likeyep we live in a hellworld alright
0 likesyoutube is a failure
0 likesHmmmmmmm..... avoid copyright vie changing all the colors and muting the sounds? Neat
0 likes18:19 Hey you used unfiltered WWE footage!
1 like18:10 I'm actually dying, god bless
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LOVED IT
0 likesLMFAO First time ive laughed that hard in a while
0 likesGive an epilepsia warning it could be aprecieted
0 likeslove this
0 likescant wait for new corect youtube. youtube is dead and shit now ive been here since year 2 and its sickining
0 likesPoor mumbo:(
0 likesCool vid, see you next year.
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Quality over quantity I’m not 10 so I don’t mind waiting
0 likes@Wanicki 357
0 likes*inferring i was talking about his upload schedule
Okay, Mr. 11-year-old.
dude i' nailed the first one, i'm already high on the spectrum.
0 likesLove the Emerson Lake and Palmer music
0 likeswe dont need robots youtube
0 likesHow you deal with colab is call their ceo during dinner
0 likesSo, basicly you STAND with AEW?
28 likesIma right
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WWE is pure shite nowadays.
5 likesBoth are fighting for wrestling industry domination.
0 likesSociety or no society that is the question!
0 likesYouTubers need to Unionize or stop bellyaching. It’s like YouTubers tried nothing and are all out of ideas. Why won’t y’all consider using actual leveraging of content together? This works for ALL aspects of bringing the bosses of digital media to the bargaining table. The thing of value y’all have to bargain is your content that makes up the whole YT site’s cash flow. They know y’all wont band together bc y’all hate each other. Fk all that. If YouTubers put aside their tone deaf feeble analysis and collectivize. There’s plenty of resources on how to organize a completely unrealized potential international content creator Union. Look into it. Bc if you don’t you’re ignoring over 100 years of fighting unjust exploitation of creator/laborers.
0 likesThe Kurzgesagt slogan
1 likeQuality>Quantity
Just your Channel
A E DUB!
0 likesA E DUB!
A E DUB!
Also, thoughts on the finish of the Fiend match?
YouTube: Video blocked in 248 countries
4 likesGoogle: There are only 195 countries
Oh my god is that Ran Ran Ru? I'm getting old Youtube nostalgia and it hasn't even been 90 seconds.
0 likesWhen does the pain stop?
0 likesThis is gonna get removed so hard someone download lol
0 likes14:54 Yes,Artistic
0 likesMaybe we should all go back to making old-school style videos with nothing but a webcam and MS Movie Maker. No more professional videos. That way, we cannot get copyright-striked anymore.
4 likesAlso, the Joker memes have already been done to death, not cool.
20:08 IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING JOJO REFERENCE
0 likesCreate a second account, claim your own video. Bam gottem
0 likesWow...just wow.... ever see a video that you are excited to see the follow up to?..... what am I witness too? Nothing. Or the start of something. Drunk ass thought.
0 likesSolution: make 2nd channel and copyright claim yourself.
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Big brain momment
0 likes13:06 Hol up
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Yeah......😬
0 likesWHOA
0 likesYour taste in music is astonishing.
0 likesNgl can’t wait for part2
0 likestaps head
0 likesDon't have to worry about being claimed if you have no viewers...
But really though, after adpocolypse I decided not to chase monetization. Then they changed the qualifiers and that sealed the deal. I'm fine with the owners of the music I use in my vids getting any ad money from the few clicks I get. I just want feedback.
Besides isn't patreon and other related sites better anyway?
One of my videos uses a copyright free track that another youtuber made, but it's still flagging me
0 likesA trans theories vid is perfectly good balance
4 likesJokes on you I use adblock
0 likesThere is one more type of youtuber. Fake uploader. They upload 2 h video of something and its generaly video of piracy is wrong non-sense.
0 likesGood video this is 🧰⛏
0 likes
0 likes-These days, you even try to say the word "wrestling" and WWE ends up copystriking you.-<Comment deleted>
tl;dw: "capitalism stifles artistic freedom, and ruins everything in the search of more money as usual"
6 likesAnd the shitty thing is he can use music on twitch and he doesn’t get a copyright strike.
0 likesChanging pitches and augmenting the angles can get you pass the bot?
0 likesThis video is copyrighted by not Viacom but ME
0 likes>cold turkey
0 likes>kurzgesagt
I see what you did there
daddy lemon has returned bearing gifts...
3 likesdont use mainstream trash music then.. and make your own,most music is the same generic sounds anyway,and i dont even care about music,saves me time not listening to repetitive things and copyright bs in the future
0 likesWhy are they doing this to so many YouTubers I love.
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0 likesno homoI really wish you would reupload or try to dispute your old ytps it’s not like I’m asking for you to make frying dory but if you have some spare time maybe try? I love going on old ytp nostalgia trips
0 likesNice little bit of Karn Evil 9 by ELP!
0 likesSorry, the static in your microphone is a registered trademark of Sony.
4 likesBut isnt Mr Clean copyrighted?
1 like14:15 genius
2 likesJimSterling~ Copyright gridlock :)
0 likesAt 13:05 I think that’s not family friendly
0 likesYES DADDY
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No mama
0 likesTHe jerks who made the new copyright law in the european union should watch that video
0 likesthey claim with royalty free youtube audio
0 likesHeres a solution. How about get an actual job. Instead of trying to take the easy route and play games and clickbait shit all day
0 likesLiked this video 5 times.
0 likesDo you remember? The 21st night of September.
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I don't
0 likesThe clip with Trump as joker was actually pretty killer. Thought it was fuckin Keith ledger
1 likeMentions "No Mans Land" and the fallen YTP channels.
0 likesSantaWithTeeth
F
Part TWO!? PART TWO PART TWO PART TWO PART TWO PART TWO PART TWO---what's for part two?
0 likesTouhou remixes ftw
0 likesEmpLemon conveniently forgot to mention that this year YouTube implemented a policy that doesn't allow companies to monetize manually claimed videos that use very short song clips (e.g. 5 seconds of a song) or have unintentional copyrighted audio (e.g. passing cars). They also made it so that companies have to include timestamps for where the copyrighted material is. YouTube's Content ID is still pretty shit, but at least now you don't have to play the guessing game of what part of the video the Content ID system didn't like. EmpLemon is making the Content ID system look worse than it actually is.
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It still is reallllllllly bad though
1 likeHow did that switch to AEW go for ya?
0 likesIf I ever decide to actually finish the YouTube like site (molded by users, IDGAF about money so long as it can pay for itself, I can get a job. Cuz fuck YouTube) how should I implement copyright? Would love some ideas and will implement whatever may work the best. By the way, I'm coding all of it so the only way they can kick us off is if the hosting site/CDN (cloudflare) refuses us service....which will result in a huge lawsuit because, ya know, contracts :3
0 likesYoutube needs to wake up, seriously >_> and use humans instead of bots :P
0 likesYo emplemon do a video on senna like you did to Dale Earnhardt 🤷♂️
1 likeAlways on point, Emp. Great job on this video
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Arjun Trivedi bro its a 22 minute video its only been uploded for 1 minute
6 likesHonestly
0 likesHe is a legend, of course.
2 likesSir don’t ever change your profile picture.
2 likes@Joe Mama I already knew that it was gonna be good, like all of Emp's other videos
0 likesLiking mainly for the shout-out to AEW
0 likesi was unsubscribed without me doing it youtube at it again
0 likesNobody:
0 likesAEW: ooooh little bit of the bubblegh!
Hey man I'm sure there was no harm intended, but please try not to make fun of us autistic people in the future okay?
0 likes13:06
0 likesIs nobody gonna talk about this?
Is Panchitomatrix original content? He redraws and I always watched him when I was a kid on yt
0 likesWow, I just realized that this was made a day before my birthday
1 likeEverytime I see EmpLemon or Fantano mention eachother, I get giddy
2 likesHow do you get all your clips anyway
0 likesJust claim your own video with another account
0 likesGuys let’s make a large company and copyright claim all videos which are wrongfully struck initiating a deadlock lmao
0 likesHow is it even worth it Jesus
1 likeThis is why Susan needs to be fired.
0 likesDamn it WWE
0 likesYouTube is the biggest pie on the Internet, and everyone wants a piece of it.
0 likes15:21 what's the song? cant find it in the description's pastebin
0 likesI’m gonna copyright the word “big brain”. If anyone uses it you have 2 days and then I get your subs.
1 like:( is everything ok? did the UMG police get to you?
0 likesCould you reupload your Lightning McQueer TYP?
0 likestime to delet YouTube
0 likesdelete copyright law
2 likes15:36 Creepy Produce Reference
0 likesWhy dose everyone complain about the public domain I say it should enter the domain if you have no plans to use it
1 likeCan you possibly make a video about the garbage in the youtube trending tab?
1 likeKarn Evil 9 slaps 👌
0 likeswho drew the art work at 15:20
0 likesBootleggers are heroes
0 likes13:49 What YTP was that?
1 likeMake two accounts, copyright claim yourself, profit...
0 likesJust gonna shove my copyright law comments in your hot comment section, but renditions aren't transformative : ). But w/e it's not like there are many people who know the difference.
0 likesPart 2: COPPA is going to screw everyone on YouTube
2 likesdislike count before youtube hid it all: 480
0 likesOrganized crime syndicates are only bootleggers on the platform? Uhhhhh maybe not
0 likesAre going to talk about copyright deadlock?
0 likesTheFatRat, press F
1 likeW E L I V E I N A S O C I E T Y
0 likesAnd then there is Wabbit Season....
0 likeskurzgesagt :payed by german tax payers
0 likesI watched the series backwards.
0 likesThat minecraft intro tho
1 like14:47 im not happy bob, NoT, hApPy
0 likesThe world’s legal system is a mess.
0 likesI dig the use of Gorillaz music
0 likesGood thing YouTube isn't your job... right?
0 likes13:23
2 likesWhy is it called no man's land if there's a man
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His name is no man
0 likesOr Norman but he took out the r to hide his identity
0 likesWHO ARE YOU!!!!
0 likesHe responds, I am nobody
Love the Persona music
0 likesHow does happy landfill not get striked on this video
0 likesdownward spiral funy joke lol
0 likesIs that the greatest song of all time Karnevil 9?
0 likesWhy does this soundtrack slap doe
0 likesThat add tho!
0 likesIm so happy I noticed Karn Evil 9
0 likesWelp this is going to Hunt me
0 likesNo wonder Pirate bay is back again
0 likes18:37 what movie is that?
1 likei like the K. Rool joke
1 liketrump be like: gamers rise up
1 likeI heard that Karn Evil 9 playing in the background
0 likesAw shit, here we go again.
0 likesEmerson Lake and Palmer = shit's about to get serious.
0 likesDidn't you have a million subscribers before?
0 likesWait... Patrick says "Eat sperm."?!!!
0 likesUPLOAD MORE
1 likePeople need to stop accepting this shit
1 likePitch shift that music bro it works everytiem
0 likes10/10 background music. from ELP
0 likesAww. I hope ChristianU2ber2009 is doing ok. Poor guy.
0 likesFinally, you made a video that wasn't utter garbage. Go, lemon, stride far far away from your alwful dislike video
0 likesWWE has B I G B R A I N
0 likesoh god. 009 soundsystem dreamscape!
0 likescopystrike your own video to get revenue
0 likes2:32 Thank you JohnTron
0 likesI'm currently Mr clean I'm just not good at editing
0 likesftc destroyed youtube
0 likesA N D S O L D T O T H E C H I N E S E
0 likesoh good
What if I told you AEW isn’t as good as the Marks want you to believe
0 likesThere should be YouTube killer made
0 likeshere's to the obligatory
0 likes*iS tHaT pERsONA 5 MUSIC*
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13:06 we not gonna talk about this?
0 likesIdiots thought they’d become famous and rich forever using YouTube. Honestly everyone who makes money making videos on YouTube needs a real job.
0 likesThat female thanos lookin gooooooood
0 likesThanks for the vid daddy
0 likesI just stream to Trovo AND HURT Yo-yo
0 likes>Complains about big company, shoutouts other big comapnies
0 likes07:18 Persona fan are we Emp?
0 likes9:40 Why is Fantano, GREEN!!!?
0 likesjust VPN the youtube!
0 likescant wait for next vid
0 likesthis video is blocked in 248 countries
0 likesOnly 198 countries in the world
2:51 Autonomous Countries.
0 likesFunny how this doesn't have the views it should deserve
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it couldn't be because youtube hides this video, could it?
1 like7:34 its sayed like this: "koortsgesagt".
0 likesnot "kursgesagt".
great persona 5 music choice bro
0 likesNobody talking about Karn Evil 9, only the vidya music :(
1 likeBasically remove shit you don’t like and also get money button exclusively made for huge companies
0 likesIf i would get my video claimed i would delete it to teach fucko that im not making him richer
0 likesI see the same Star_ thumbnails is back again.
1 likeAh, Persona and Smash music?
1 likeI see you’re a man of culture as well
Emerson Lake and Palmer music? Nice.
0 likesAs shit, here we go again.
0 likesThe people wants NONCREDIBLES 2
0 likes*ahem
2 likesLETS ALL JUST MOVE TO BITCHUTE
STOP AUTOMATION.
0 likesI watched the whole video clip
0 likesjust claim your own video
0 likesSo... How's AEW?
0 likes13:35 flashback to kitty0706
0 likeslevel 9001 youtuber
0 likesmissed u ❤
0 likesThat persona 5 song tho
0 likesFantano. Consistency? FGAHAHA
0 likesblocked in 248 countries wtf hahaha
1 likeUpward Spiral.
0 likesI mean, I know your a sophisticated guy.
0 likesThe world is a MESS, the world is as ANGRY as it gets!
What, you think this is gonna cause some more anger?
The world is an angry place!
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IM GETTING ANGRYYYYYYY
0 likesThanks, dad.
0 likesWhat is it with private information and the Chinese?
0 likesOoooooh that's why the Simpsons are green. You sneaky boy
0 likesWell l have a chanel with my best friend that has over 2 k subs did a 10 min anime rewiwew video it took like 30+ hour and a clip got claimed so we had to re upload hole fuking thing
0 likesFirst song sounds like world of illusion final boss
0 likesThis background music is bomb dude! Elp! Cmon..
0 likesI think it’s fitting
0 likesdoes anybody know the original song that plays from 15:22 to 17:19 ?
0 likes6:06 whats the song used there
0 likesI'LL BE THERE
0 likesI'LL BE THERE
I WILL BE THERE
5:26 Sorry if it's out of context but what's show that clip came from. I used to watch it on TV when I was a child if I wasn't wrong but I forgot the title.
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The price is right
1 like@Generally Trash Thanks, dude...
0 likesNOT THE NAVY!!
0 likesI am always impressed with the amount of effort you put into your videos, it really shows through, keep it up!!!
0 likesYour videos are amazing. The editing and work you put in is very apparent. Anything you upload is "can't miss" content
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Wow, nice to see you here.
0 likesGreat job again, love your work Emp.
0 likesEmp I honestly love your style of video and even though it’s born from hurdles due to copyright I do think it has such a unique flare. Honestly I’d love to see more creators do this transformer approach to copyrighted content. I really think this is a video series many aspiring creators should keep in mind
0 likesreally looking forward to part 2!!
1 likeI love all the content you upload, even if it is just ranting about why being a video editor on YouTube sucks
0 likesThank you mentioning how royally screwed YTPers were back in the dark days of '08-'09. So many YTP channels were destroyed or forced to retire thanks to YouTube's scorched earth policy back then, to the point where they basically killed off the format. My old account's Favorites playlist is a veritable graveyard of deleted videos from that era.
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It's still happening to this day sadly...
1 likeI hope Emp talks about "copyright deadlock" in his next video. It's use case is specific, but it's one of the few ways you can use the system against corperations on youtube.
1 likeI use backing tracks for cutting montages (don’t ask 🤣) in some of ny videos. I find slowing the song down to 85% or so lets it limbo under content ID pretty well whilst still having the same recognition of a known song, which people seem to respond well to. Thanks for making these sorts of videos, its invaluable.
0 likesAll of this shit killed my growth (which was steadily rising until I started complaining and speaking out against licensors).
1 likeThe worst thing is the corruption of YouTube employees by these claimants as well as by competitor channels or mcns
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Also this is a much needed and impressive report. And that's what I see it as. I dont see anyone else doing this work. Well done.
0 likesVery good video, I really like your style, can't wait for the second part and I agree with most of it, but I have to correct one thing, this is gonna be a long comment but I think its important.
1 likeYou say after a rejected dispute you can only take them to court, thats false, after a disputed claim gets rejected by the claimant, which happens 99% of the time, you can appeal the rejected dispute (as seen in the image you used), and if they want to keep the rights of the video THEY have to take you to court, which they never do in cases of fair use because not only they would lose but also set a precendent.
In other words, Youtube gives you the tools to force them to take you to court if you insist on keeping the rights of your video.
Most youtubers don't take that secod step because they are afraid of a giant corporation suing them and youtube giving them strikes and ending their channels, but the truth is if you go though with the second appeal and your work can be seen as fair use, you will win and get the rights back. It can take up to two months and youtube clearly made a system that encourages copyright fraud, but if you are right youtube allows you to fight for it.
I have seen a lot of youtubers say what you said in this video about having no options after the first rejection, don't know if people lie to get sympathy and make youtube seem worse or if you guys don't know what really happens because never tried to appeal for the second time and are just repeating what you heard, but I wish youtubers would stop spreading this lie, because it just encourages people to not fight for their rights even though they can and let the big companies take their money
I had some videos blocked that were clearly fair use. When I appealed them, they told me that they didn't care about Fair Use and still were gonna block the videos. Now, as a small creator, I didn't want to go toe-to-toe legally with these people, so I just moved on. Reactor gave me some advice, which was to never use a clip for more than 10 seconds. Since taking that advice, none of my reviews have ever been flagged.
0 likesI hope you include the copyright deadlock scheme Jim Sterling uses to keep his Patreon funded videos ad-free.
0 likesI love your videos and can't wait to see part 2
0 likesSometimes I just want to watch a certain clip for nostalgia or to refresh my memory but the the official channels either doesn't have or edited. I was talking about a rocko's modern life episode and wanted to show sad clip but the clip I found had music over it. It was that episode where Rocko's dog Spunky was in love with a mop and he runs into the closet where you can hear some eye brow raising sound effects. The person I told this to didn't believe they did it but i didn't want to go through the hassle of downloading, editing and uploading to google docs.
0 likesHave I ever mentioned how much I love your editing style?
0 likesI love the bird science channel. Really good production and info
1 likeSomehow i have this feeling that explaining the techniques will make them non-valid in a couple of months
0 likesCame to learn what video title was about, stayed to find out premier date of AEW on TV.
0 likesWhat needs to happen is for people to start taking this stuff to court. Even if you don't win or make any money in the end, making abuse of the copyright system so expensive and time consuming that corporations don't want to deal with it is the only way things will change. Yes, it's a long and hard road but that's usually how revolutions go. The US didn't win its independence in a couple years by a bunch of people asking nicely. People had to fight and suffer for the greater good.
Youtube needs a viable competitor.
1 likeThere's a simple solution to all this, GETTING RID OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY!
0 likes"But then who would we buy usage rights from?"
Oh, right.
Thank you for being a great YouTuber
0 likesAnd then theres Jim Sterling who purposely gets multiple copyright strikes from several companies so no one can benefit from his work if he cant. Love him or hate him you have to admit its genius
0 likesWorking around the copyright system is like a Clever as hell stand user with a sh*t stand.
0 likesBack in 2016 someone made a ytp of an internet show called “Ken’s Cinema of Shenanigans.” What did the copyright owner do? Reacted to it on a live stream.
0 likesHuh, this is the most informative YTP i've ever seen
0 likesFrankly, I just think that YouTube should just grow a pair and say that it's the Youtubers responsibility to watch out for what he posts. Not bending over to influencers and corporate shills. If they said "It's Jack Paul's fault, not ours, he's getting his ass destroyed", not only none of the bad decisions that happened after the Suicide Drama would have occurred, the Paul's would have terminated, and the corporates would calm down, if not shut up about it. But no, YouTube loves his influencers even if their content is absolute garbage watched by drooling drones with 2 of IQ, Muh money is what matters. But again, if the website totally gave Youtubers total responsibility over any drama, YouTube would not be in such shit. And they should have done this many aeons ago, not just when the Jack Paul incident occurred or any other drama.
1 likeJust blame (((Susan))) for that. The Old YouTube was way better than this new platform. Did not care about your data, your content, could be anything as long as it's not porn, could make an account separated from Google+, had full creativity over your channel appearance, and of course, people did videos our of pure passion. I don't mind earning money from those videos, but it truly shaped YouTube and its users in a really, really bizarre way.
I hope copyright gets abolished, or we'll get a video-hosting platform where it's impossible to enforce copyright law.
0 likesthe more they changed the copyright system, it just seems to get worse
0 likesif you order the clips just right, you'll notice Emp Lemon actually uploaded a bootleg movie in this video.
0 likesman i love it when you upload.
0 likesalso
plz don't end state of youtube
Youtube needs a team that observes and settles disputes between creators and copyright holder. Since the ID system only sees the use of copyrighted content, not the context, this team could review the video and decide if needs to be claimed or not. Of course, this will take time and recourses for youtube. But given how much youtubers have lost, it would be deserved.
0 likesno way its gonna get better until the are rules/laws that enforce youtube and other platforms to give similar support to both the copyright holder and user. US law enforces youtube to help copyright holders (result of Viacom vs Youtube lawsuit) which has lead to the current mess. only way to balance it is a similar law for helping the other side too.
1 likeWhy is it that every single YouTube alternative fails? I know YouTube might fail cause of this shit but what alternatives could we use?
0 likesI love how you create scientific graphs for youtube phenomena, presenting it in such a way as for people to not know they are being educated
1 likeI'm not a fan of Jim Sterling, but his copyright deadlock technique is brilliant
0 likesSupport the youtube union stand strong hold the line
0 likesA court case where it is demanded that all claimants who ignored fair use need to pay back all that money to the transformers or derivative editors. 🤞
0 likesAwesome!! Can't wait for pt2!!!
0 likesIt's painful because it gives AI's (particularly AGIs) a bad name. They have terrifyingly awesome prowess in discovering patterns the above average human could occasionally miss except consistently. The content ID system is neglected and it's painful to see such a large step of normalized usage for AGIs being crippled in favor of media industry bs.
0 likesI hope you'll say something about Jim Sterling's "copyright deadlock" in the next video.
0 likesRemember like a month or so ago when they said they were really cracking down on the copyright stuff? Yeah..
0 likesEmbrace AI-generated background music.
1 likeI'm actually ok with that.
Shed not a tear for the bootlegger gone in the night, his job complete, the smile on your face and the laugh in your voice is all the payment he needs.
0 likesJust wait for a site with a better copyright system to show up and YouTube would be gone in a flash
0 likesPersonal anecdote, one of my videos is a posting of a public domain 1960 film, and it has been claimed because content ID thinks it's some guy's song that sampled from that movie
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Same case with Oppenheimer speech
1 likeI even made a playlist of falsely claimed videos
If you were to ask me five years ago if creating a YouTube channel and making videos for the heck of it would be a worthwhile hobby for when I grew up, I would've had no problem with it. Practically everything I've been seeing on YouTube lately was how people are trying to sneak past a paranoid security system and how said security system is disposing content that had practically nothing wrong with it. At this point, it's basically a battle between major companies and the people that this fucking site was MADE FOR!!! This is the reason I will NEVER post anything I make on this website. I don't want to have to deal with "copyright infringement" and having to explain to defective robots that Fair Use is a thing that exists for the fifty trillionth time. The sooner that the website's target audience can stop having to deal with this inept horseshit, or we can get a suitable replacement that doesn't have this, the better.
0 likesI had an account a long time ago that was mildly successful with just a little over 20k subs.. In 2010 I started uploading Reach beta footage, and all of a sudden my channel was wiped from existance from multiple bogus 3rd party claims, ranging from claiming the audio, to the visuals, to even my own outro which I made myself. Youtube pretty much told me to go fuck myself, Bungie closed their eyes and ears, and even a lawyer told me unless I'm willing to spend a minimum of a few thousand to get the ball rolling I'm SOL.
0 likesSince then I only use this account, a backup I made long long ago, which has all those videos privatised.. and each one of them, despite being private and unavailable to the public, is demonitised permanently.
Youtube, as a platform, is fucked in the fucking head, and I've been slowly but surely moving all my content over to other platforms, like Pornhub.. At least they talk to me when I receive a claim on my videos.
Trying to monetize my videos is like trying fly the USS Enterprise over New York City without anyone noticing. Precisely why I have a job at my local Meijer. Life sucks...
0 likesI cannot wait for part 2!!!!!!
0 likesWhen you endorse the competitor of a company that tried to yoink your revenue
0 likesNice TLJ review choice there. Love it.
0 likesI think the whole YouTube copyright system should be based on a percentage.
0 likesIf 1% of my video is using copyrighted material, the claiment can gain 1% of my revenue.
If 100% of my video is copyrighted material, the claiment gets 100% of the revenue.
It wouldn't be hard to implement since YouTube had / has this feature already to see from what till what time your video
is using copyrighted material.
What this will do is give parts of claimed video revenue still to the creator, fight full on copyrighted movies,
and maybe discourage big corporations to claim videos that use under 5-10% of revenue.
My psychiatrist: JokerEmp isn't real, he can't hurt you
0 likesMy subconscious at 2:37AM: 19:38
Don't upload part 2 because they will remove those options
1 likeEverybody Gangster, til Emplemon starts uploading again
0 likesShit Emp I can't have you selling my info, now people will know what kind of porn I watch, DAMN IT
0 likesAnother amazing video.
0 likesThe Boot-leggers are the anti-heros of digital media.
0 likesThe ending had a Joker hacking all advertisement screens in a city? Sounds familiar...
0 likesYES EmpLemon! AEW FTW!
0 likeslol, that Ice Climber theme at the end
1 likefirst videos I watched on youtube were resident evil parody cartoons. That's back then when resident evil 4 got released on PC (first PC port with keyboard aiming).
0 likesHas this video been copyright claimed yet?
0 likesGood thing there is no copyright on making videos
0 likesAh good thing even Content ID won’t bother flagging Karn Evil 9.
2 likesIt sucks because Anthony should have the full legal right to use the music he's reviewing in his video's since it falls under fair use.
0 likesEnding: We live in a society
0 likesMore ppl need to talk about this vid
0 likesPlaying Devil's Advocate, here is an example of Youtube attempting to help creators with its flawed system:
0 likeshttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/08/youtubes-new-lawsuit-shows-just-how-far-copyright-trolls-have-go-theyre-stopped
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I mean, youtube is doing what they can, trying to avoid a lawsuit, its companies like umg that are the problem
0 likes@Isaac Cea Aye, there exists multiple companies that make a living off of false copy right claims, and they are supported by foreign court rulings. Thus, youtube sets up a flawed system in order to appease those foreign courts, rather than the local law where the company is based.
0 likesVery sorry sir, but the word "Youtube" is actually copyrighted by Youtube, a Video-Sharing website owned by Google.
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Eh sorry sir. You said Google. The search engine site owned by Alphabet
0 likesI hate how copyright (which is really quite outdated for the internet age) allows huge companies to make EVEN MORE money with little effort - implying that it's those who use or even liberally sample a work are somehow stealing from a poor helpless. Our current system doesn't even really help those who are actually vulnerable to having their work ripped off in the first place, especially when the legal system is disgustingly favoured towards companies. Look, take Disney and Kimba the White Lion - can you seriously imagine a lawsuit there (which already costs SO much money, for attorneys and court fees) not resulting in a Disney win on BUDGET alone, which is why there was no lawsuit and there probably will never be one even if Mushi Production and Right Stuf Inc. has interest to do so.
0 likestl:dr - Fuck copyright holders. Copyright law is old and shit and at the very least needs a serious update. The system only favours those who continue to exploit creators.
I liked that Happy Tree Friends reference.
0 likesEmperor Lemon whatever happens make videos for as long as you can if I end up rich somehow in the near future I'll send you some cash.
0 likesWhatever keeps money out of civilian hands and in the hands of corporations or the government.
0 likesYou have YouTube in the video, so you will get copyrighted by YouTube.
0 likesOh boy, it's all gonna start anew eventually.
0 likesJokes on you JokerEmp
0 likesI ALREADY HAD A VPN
hears beneath the mask
0 likesHuzzah A Man Of Culture!
One thing wrong with this video is the assumtion that youtube doesn't care who recieves the add revenue, because they still proffit from it.
0 likesGoogle doesn't care about revenue of youtube in a first place. It wouldn't suprise me, that when google finally finishes developing deep learning based video compression, that would drastically reduce storage requirements, google would end any kind of monetisation for non-corp channels.
Google bought youtube not to earn money, but to prevent competition and they have admited that that they care more about "social impact" of youtube, than revenue.
Poor Emp...he just wanted to make green Simpsons
0 likesi was listening Persona music for days and then 7:17 kicks in dis awesome video, coincidence? i think not
0 likesSo how long before this video gets nuked because of Emp's commentary?
0 likesI WILL find a video of yours where you DON'T say "Youtube poop".
0 likesYoutube is a Zipf's Law simulator.
0 likes16:05 what's the 2nd background music next to Mr. game and watch? Is the guitar part of the song? It's so feint, but it sounds really recognizable and sweet.
0 likesAnd that's why copyright is unethical.
0 likesyoutube poops are technically fair use.
0 likesCongrats youtube ya messed up
0 likesYou ever heard of the Copyright Deadlock?
0 likesI hope mumkey Copyright claimed your video for the use of his music at your ad near the end!
0 likesInfernoPlus has a video of him talking about how his channel gets flagellated by companies
0 likesi watched the Dragonball Super Broly Movie on Youtube!
0 likeswith the original english dub, I don't think you even get this version on dvd/bluray
Lemon really loves ELP
0 likesi hear Happy Landfill under the transformers section and i’m happy
0 likesgreat vid
Emplemon is my favourite youtuber
0 likes13:06 I get it, slapping on.
0 likesI was less upset at the idea that people can copyright strike your videos if it's justified.
0 likesI was really fucking upset at Youtube's "LOL THIS GUY HAS FUCKING NO EVIDENCE BUT HE SAID IT'S TRUE SO THIS IS HIS VIDEO NOW, YOU ALSO CAN'T GET OWNERSHIP OF THE VIDEO BACK IF HE REJECTS YOUR APPEAL". This sort of unprofessional, inhuman and robotic response to someone losing their monthly income over a completely ignorant and heartless approach on Youtube's behalf made me lose my faith in Youtube's direction. Google has no empathy for the people that rake in cash for Youtube and it's disgusting.
Emplemon for youtube CEO
0 likesI saw a ster_ thumbnail and heard a Jerma reference. If that isn't foreshadowing that ster and/or Jerma video you hinted at a while ago, I don't know what is. Everybody wants to see this happen.
0 likesHey another video from my favourite alt right wing youtuber 😍
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What has this to do with the topic of the video?
0 likesIs that Gorillaz music i hear once again? you truly make me glad im subbed
0 likesStand Name:
2 likes『MISTER CLEAN』
Stand User:
Kwebbelkop
broke: youtube revenue a big problem
0 likeswoke: youtube copystrike is big stupid
bloke: youtube only video site on online
I appreciate the midi version of Karn Evil 9
0 likesI like the midi Karn Evil 9, keep up the goods Emp
0 likesAEW honestly looks worse than WWE. Their last four shows have shown so little promise that I doubt their show on TNT will even be watchable.
0 likeswe genuinely need a new youtube at this point they just dont fucking care
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bitchute my guy
1 like3 cheers for anarcho-capitalism
0 likesYouTube is on a clownward spiral
0 likesokay but I legit havent thought about or seen the spongebob shooting patrick video since like 2009 sorry emp I'll finish the vid later I gotta find this classic
0 likesThat acting at the end was better than most school plays ive seen.
0 likestype: mr Clean
0 likes*uploads 2 hour video of white background with suddle noice sound
gets striked by 5 people
Can a copyrighted video get copyrighted again by someone else?If not can someone copyright his own videos by another channel to secure his money :) ?
0 likesMan, this really is Endgame
0 likesYou just infringed on my copyright of internet videos so I will be taking the Adsense dollars
0 likesI'm an idiot. I should have used NordVPN. I didn't and Emp hacked my latest video and inserted 1 frame of downward spiral into it.
0 likesthis man just used flat zone 2
0 likesThat scout thumbnail looks familiar...
0 likesIt's 2019, I can't believe we're still talking about the DoWnWaRd SpIrAl on youtube.
0 likesEmp man can you do a vid on Shooting Stars? Those memes were pretty good man.
0 likesIs Emp an ELP fan?
0 likes18:23 damn 😂
0 likesWait. If you give the techniques then you they will get more data to stop said techniques
0 likesThe song is ice climber (melee)
1 likeJoker emp sounds like MumkeyJones, precrash
2 likesTrack at 7:50 is beneath the mask from persona
0 likesWhat would we do without you?
0 likesDownward spiral.
1 likeI made a playlist that contains falsely claimed videos
0 likesGood to see a new video, but I have a problem, should I not care that T-Series reached 100 mil first because they're a corporation, it's just a meme and that even Pewds didn't really care or should I be concerned that we missed our chance to represent an individual channel reach the 100 lillion milestone first?
0 likesThen beneath the mask instrumental
1 likeHey man Seth Rollins is good. He's one of the few
0 likesWhy did you use Mumkey's song in your VPN ad?
0 likeswe live in a society
0 likesDude, you gotta stop putting ELP in your videos. I just stop listening to you and listen to the music instead.
0 likesEMPCORD JIHAD UNITE!!!!
0 likesmake emps discord better
Don't mind me, just here to copyright claim this video because youtube isn't going to double check how valid my claim is
0 likesWE ARE BACK AT IT AGAIN WAAAAAHAAHAHAHA
0 likesIs that Persona 5 and DKC music I hear?
0 likesWhat's the best way to make an iron farm?
0 likesAaaaa , the no man's land ... home
0 likesMan i hated when i clicked a vid way back when and it was fucking muted and pretty much unwatchable because of it
0 likesJoker Emp sounds like Mumkey Jones
0 likesDownward Spiral
0 likesDownward Spiral
0 likesDownwards Spiral
0 likesand then there is Dead Meat...
0 likesdownward spiral. Downward Spiral. DOWNWARD SPIRAL
0 likesSuper Smash Bros.: "I have the most bullshit metagame in the world."
0 likesYouTube Content ID System: "Hold my freedom of speech that I stole."
9:47 is where I am at
0 likes9:47 is where I am at
0 likes9:47 is where I am at
0 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL - Jumkey Mones
0 likesNot to be rude but I got 60 subscribers and I don't edit or use copyright stuff. Well I mean even if I did I dont have enough subscribers to get adsince. But still 60 subs by just being me. The way YouTube was and should be. Why must we relying on other people's shows and songs to be famous? Why cant we just be are self's?
0 likesYouTube needs to burn burn burn
0 likesI don't get the thinking behind taking down vids for clips cause oh I listened 2 5 sec of a beatles song guess I won't buy it know like wth if anything it'll make me want to buy it more
0 likeswhy is mcdonald on the thumbnail? like dont get me wrong their a awful company on their own rights but as far as i can tell they dont really cc anyone
0 likesWho’s with me on the fact that Monetization is useless? What’s the point of it? I would like to post a video without earning money from YouTube.
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If your video gets demonetized it stops being recommended, so it affects the visibilty of your channel
0 likesAEW is gonna be dope
0 likesEmplemon our true leader, CorpTube is absolutely harrible
0 likesUh oooooh you said YouTuuuuube. Your getting sueeeeeeeeeeed.
0 likesi already Nord when regan told me not to! ha!
0 likesWhaddup LemonNation iz ya boi, EmpLemon 👑🍋👇♻
0 likesMake a TF2 video already
0 likesWheres part 2
0 likesIs that TJ Kirk at the end?
1 likeDOWNWARD SPIRAL
0 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL
0 likesthanks capitalism
0 likescould U make American Dad YTP By the way if you can't do any of those YTPs that's fine I'm just giving you suggestions you're still one of my Fav YouTubers
0 likesWhere do gaming channels lie
0 likesIsn't there a better a analogue to youtube?
0 likes5:27 I'm sorry what gameshow is this? You just awaken my deep memory here but can't tell where is this coming from
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It's the portuguese gameshow "Preço certo", I think
0 likesIt's a game show called The Price Is Right
0 likesYOO. LOVE. TO UPLOAD. COPYRIGHTED. CARTEWNS.
1 likeCommies run YouTube. What do you expect?
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Who’s gonna tell them?
0 likesPart2?
0 likesWhere's the second video though🤔🤔
1 likeWho wants an EmpLemon/internet historian podcast
0 likesAnyone else think EmpLemon sounds like FunkE?
0 likesIs it possible to learn this power?
0 likes0:01 You pop thispice of crap
1 likeI made a video of me cutting cheese.
1 likeCareful. Webster’s dictionary owns the rights to words now
0 likeswhat the hell is a youtube poop?
0 likesDOWNWARDS SPIRAL
0 likesI already got NordVPN
0 likesI'm a video game pirate
2 likeshey emp you gonna see avgn in orlando on the 24th?
0 likesI want ad revenue off my video..how do this
0 likesNice pitch shifted ELP
0 likesEmplemon will you make an bitchute account?
0 likesSo why haven’t you made any YTP’s
0 likesi saw a full movie with fake loading in it
0 likeswe are happy landfill
1 likeMyth is Tekashi flags copyrighted content
0 likesNice use of tf2
0 likeshears persona 5 music
0 likesClicks the like button
Great video, but that song was the fucking Ice Climbers song from Melee? I hate those guys so much.
0 likesThink it’s time to look somewhere else then?
0 likesGood video my man. Really enjoying your commentary videos. Can't wait for part 2!
0 likesLove this! Cant wait for part 2 awesome content
0 likesThis makes me want to get big on youtube just to go to war with a company
1 likeKeep it up man, you are one hell of a good dude
0 likesAnother hit, Emp. Excited for part 2!!
0 likesCan't wait for some other company take youtube's place. Fully aware it could be worst, but hell do I want the satisfaction of watching this site burn.
0 likesHonestly was waiting for this series because it must be made
0 likesThis vid is great. Can't wait for part 2.
0 likesAre we not gonna talk about how TheOriginalAce literally COPYRIGHT CLAIMED HIS OWN VIDEO to combat a claim from a record label?
0 likesA way to counteract the "we can't take them to court" issue is to make a union. No joke. Have a coalition of YTers and fans make a union to protect people.
0 likesI have an hour's worth of footage over a few videos that I had like so many views on... I gave up and never reposted any of them. especially when you are in fear of losing my channel all together right? I'm looking forward to your next video... im thinking I may use your methods in an attempt to share the media I simply love and want to support in my own way ❤️🤘 *most of the were dragon ball
0 likesThe copyright system has always been bad
1 likeI think that copyright should be abolished in its entirety as a legal concept. Sure it comes with problems but it's better than what we have now.
0 likesyoutube should charge copyright claims 1$ and use the money to pay people to manually review the claim.
0 likes2:36 I actually thought my Project+ build had turned the music volume back up after I lowered it.
0 likes“I know you’re a sophisticated guy... the world is a mess” 😂😂😂 that edit is gold
1 likeSad part is youtube is so far reaching that nobody can realistically migrate so you just have to deal with it
0 likesWelcome to the downward spiral, it's worse than hell so enjoy your stay
0 likesI hear that goddamn Beneath the Mask Lemon
0 likesand I thought my respect for you couldn't get any higher
This needs to be on trending
0 likesI’m a Entertainment Wrestling fan, and that AEW line was fucking hilarious
0 likesInternet insults through time:
2 likes- aids
- cancer
- ebola (with exclamation "m8")
- cringe (exclamation "boi")
- clown (exclamation "bruh")
emp: wwe is pretty epic watch it
0 likeswwe: i’m abouta end this mans whole career
Additionally, people who follow the Fair-Use method and onward oftentimes get the content from the Bootleggers. The circle of life...
0 likesWe need a group of people to make another website to upload videos
0 likesI’m a simple man, I see an EmpLemon vid, I click
0 likesHow to Survive Youtube
0 likesPart 1
Copyright
Would've been the perfect title
may the legacy of the downward spiral live on
0 likesListening to a half chinese half american man absolutely brutalize the pronunciation of "Kurzgesagt" was extremely painful, thank you Emp
0 likes2:54 197 if you include non-UN countries that meet the definition of an independent country.
1 likeThis is a great video emperor lemon
0 likessomething tells me that a fuuuuuuuuck tone big wigs are gonna be all "ohh these kids don't know how to use the legal system " i point to this channel and laugh
0 likeswhen you edit an original video and copyright it
1 likeSTONKS
At 17:50-18:31 Emp threw WWE off hell in a cell and it plummeted 16ft through an announcers table.
0 likesWhy don't all the big youtubers ever go on strike? Tank their site for a day or 2 and protest their issue on social media then youtube might respond
0 likesI would love to see a court case against a sad bart Simpson edit
0 likesOHHHH So that's why every bandicam notepad using tutorial videos always has the same music. I thought those youtubers at that time just like it.
0 likesU got a nice taste in music.
0 likesI Love your vids.
Part 2 in a nutshell: "the simpsons are green for a reason".
0 likesHoly shit I wasnt expecting a mention of Daddy Derek..
0 likesSo Youtube has downward spiral and Metagame...Here we go again.
1 likeU: UNWANTED.
M: METAGAME.
G: GENERATOR.
This is the greatest nordvpn plug ever
0 likesthat crusty instrumental of We are Happy Landfill at 13:00 lmao i love it
0 likesi fucking LOVE your music choice in every video holy shit
0 likesIf we didn't have ©ID, we'd have NIИ references in the Downward Spiral
0 likesThis video has been copyright claimed by "big dick energy company" because you spoke with words and they use words.
0 likesI enjoy this video from its music choice to you saying that your gonna watch AEW
0 likesI love the Persona 5 soundtrack hope you don't get copyright claimed.
0 likesI don't care anymore, i want youtube to become the sequel to blockbuster.
0 likesPornhub owner should make a competing platform and NOT SELL OUT to google regardless of how much pay they give.
The power of the downward spiral. It’s too much...
0 likesEmployee: Hey boss! There a video using our clips!
0 likesBoss: There is, send a copyright claim!
Employee: But sir the video title is "Why insert company name is so great"
Boss: What did I just say! That shit out there is using our clips, and isn't benefiting from it in anyway except his audience viewing it!
Employee: wait.... but then why do we ca-
Boss: Do it or you're gonna be demonetized in a second!
I think these videos should be taught in schools
0 likesImagine unironically saying that we live in a "clown based society"
2 likesWe live in a downward spiral
1 likeWhat's your opinion on the YouTube union also you should do a video on it to spread the word
1 likeOnly noob pirates watch on streaming sites. The experienced ones get them through encrypted P2P over a VPN.
0 likesWow the cringe from your
0 likesskitadvertisement at the end...Apart from that mess I enjoyed the video but I wish you had plet us know when part 2 is coming out.
Looks like Emp enjoys a little bit of the bubbly too
0 likes19:04 I reccomend using clips from the wall music video or borgs from star trek.
0 likesOoh nice, another Emplemon upload-
2 likes"Part (1)"
hnnnnnng
Wait... THATS why all those videos from way back used that generic music?
0 likesMauLer and Rags are having this problem too!
1 likeWhy are all your uploads fucking great?
1 likeYour usage of Persona 5 OST is perfect.
0 likesgod i love the amount of tf2 in this
0 likesI'm sorry in order to use the name EMPLEMON you will have to buy the license from Disney.
0 likesim going to need part 2 like right now pls
0 likesMakes a video about video revenue getting stolen; 0:58 steals a webm made for 4Chan. HOWEVER EmpLemon was probably the one who made it originally. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
0 likesits well used in this videos' opener so fuck it, Its not like OP got paid anyway
This was great
0 likesPerfect nord vpn intro
0 likesPersona OST? TF2 clips? What are you? My soulmate?
0 likesbe sure to use nord vpn, it will make you feel better about your divorce
0 likesGreat video mang
0 likesYou should do a never ever on Jim Morrison
0 likesAw frick it mumbo jumbo, the madlad who makes town moving.
0 likesif it's a downward spiral then why do you use the music for bljing UP the stairs
0 likesThe Downward spiral is back
0 likesoh epic do more talking with beneath the mask thats epic
0 likesOversimplified and Emplemon in one day?
0 likesViacock still needs to stop
1 likeI want a downward spiral profile pic and wallpaper.
0 likesIs it weird that I recognized the sound clip at 0:52 from DikeKike's iCarly poop?
0 likesI like how you used a clip of a sir pelo video
0 likesIf you take this long to upload a video again I'll copyright the 2 second clip you used from my channel.
2 likesRonald's creepyness factor lies somewhere between Willy Wonka and the It clown.
0 likesIs that clip of MumboJumbo talking about demonitization just a coincidence???? HMMMMMMMMMM?
0 likesI can't believe it. A good ad for something. Nicely executed, have a tasty one
0 likesThanks Capitalism!
1 likeThe first time I ever got on YouTube was to watch Guns N' Roses music videos when I was 7. The EMP IS BACK BABY! We've missed you.
0 likesAt long last we now know why the Simpsons are green!
0 likescoming part 2, how to green simpson
0 likesMake sure to fasten your seatbelts, we're entering the Downward Spiral
1 likei see sir pelo in there uwu
0 likesSoon all conversation will be copyrighted. Ahahahaha
0 likesWE ARE HAPPY LANDFILL!!!
0 likesThat wwe call out, good stuff emp.
0 likes19:55 Who is in the background? Is that TJ Kirk?
0 likesEmerson, Lake and Palmer? Holy shit, kudos
0 likesyes, episode 2, where you tell youtube how to stop people from avoiding the robot
0 likesgreat idea
TL;DR - fuck materialism and money, time to hang out innawoods and brew beer.
0 likesAlso I'm on publick Wi-Fi so I guess I'm fök'd
2:50 parallel universes dude
0 likesHuh. This could be useful. My content is shit and my channel is tin but I plan on using copyrighted content in it soon
0 likesAh gangplank galleon a classic
1 likeNo one:
2 likesEmpLemon: same goddamn decreasing pitch sound effect
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And?
1 likeDownward Society
0 likesI'm not getting notifications when you upload I have the bell on and shit
0 likesMan, I fuckin love your video's prog rock soundtrack
0 likesWow the cringe from your
0 likesskitadvertisement at the endYou seem to love Freddy Ruins Sam's Life. Why is it in so many of your videos?
0 likesWHAT A FCKIN INTRO
0 likesLove me some P5
0 likesLmao is that Smash Bros music
0 likesWhat is that grungy guitar song with piano?
0 likes18:04 I mean, the video taught me a lot and I'll leave a like because I liked it, but could you not use a meme that describes screeching as "autistic?"
0 likesAll in all, maybe don't live off of YouTube, because why would you do that to yourself?
0 likesWe life in a free market. Oh did i say market? I meant society...
0 likes14:08 Internet Historian steals?
0 likesThe angry video game nerd?
0 likesYou can just do like Danny Gonzalez and tweet out that you're "reviewing your legal options" and you'll be fine.
0 likes2:35
0 likesSinner
And this video has AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADS!!!!!!
0 likes18:23 IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKIN JERMA REFERENCE????????????????????????
0 likesWhat happened to the Lightning McQueen video?!
0 likeswhy is there a hypnotization visual in the background ?.? brainwash
0 likesHeh, persona 5 music
1 likethat minecraft intro is beyond me
0 likesCan someone give me an ost for the vid?
0 likesEmp u ok, I haven't uploaded in a while. Missing ya
2 likesDOWNWARDS, SPIRAL. DOWNWARDS, SPIRAL. DOWNWARDS, SPIRAL.
0 likes11:23
0 likes* gaaasp *
MAULER !!!
Mc - Mangles - is - suspended hAHahHAHahahHAh
0 likesI prefer EmpJoker.
0 likesScoffs and clicks away
0 likesHey guys I'm poor and need money so I'm gonna find out how to make money uploading Family Guy Funny Moments videos without getting copyright striked. Wish me luck gang 👌💰💸
0 likes12:15 lmao
0 likesTony Sadano has shiet taste
0 likesEMPLEMON HELP PLEASE
0 likesEmplemon likes persona WeirdChamp
0 likesSeriously? Those fucking autists at WWE blocked your video AFTER THE MONETIZING CLAIM? This shit reminds me when I did a lil' remix of Benassi's Satisfaction. To this day it's the only video blocked worldwide I got, and I don't understand why. Is it because I used the vocal drop from "Put Your Hands Up For Detroit" and that thing is owned by another company that won't settle with Benassi's label for the ad royalties?
0 likesA E W! A E W! A E W!
1 likeI mean.... or everyone could just get real jobs like most of the population instead of making money off of videos. But I guess that's just me
0 likesdOwNwArD sPiRaL
0 likesPreach
0 likesate brasileiro apareceu
1 likeThis is why I comment never upload
0 likesA e w a e w!
0 likes18:27 yes!
0 likesPersona 5 music, nice
0 likesEmo emp? Emolemon
0 likesWhy are you using “Karn evil”?
0 likes"artistic interpretation"
1 likeThat minecraft pp doe 13:07
1 likeThen flat zone 2
1 likeWhere's petscop 2
0 likes9:17 TOOL
0 likes16:34 Schaffrillas Productions, is that you???
0 likesyou really like karn evil nine huh?
0 likesIs that Karnevil I hear!??!?
0 likes13:52 Is that from Awful Fawful or Sinn3dTradgedy?
0 likeswhat's the song at 2:40?
0 likesanother banger great job emp
0 likesSo 009 Sound System was actually Youtube recommended? I thought it was just people jumping on some band-wagon, I didn't make videos so I never encountered that.
1 like6:26 oh there's my name
0 likesDon't even get me started on Siivagunner
0 likesemplemonnnnnnnn uploaaaddd yay
0 likes13:05 rexo plays😶
1 likeim puking looking at gus johnson
1 likeA-E DUBB
1 likeA-E DUBB
A-E DUBB
A-E DUBB
Where we doing this all the sudden
0 likesHonestly I think YouTube needs a competitor
0 likesCan't we migrate to bitchute?
0 likesLETS FUCKING GO AEW GANG
0 likesminutes after this video, my own video got copyrighted.
0 likes13:05 what the hell
1 likeMumbo Jumbo 😭😭
0 likesI hate that youtube isn’t showing me your videos. this is the most interesting shit and I don’t even know if it’s here or not
0 likes13:06 Um, WHAT IS THAT.
0 likes13:05 what the hell?
0 likesBut muh personal information...
0 likesohh look its mauler! efap represent
0 likeswhat is the music at 15:20
0 likesDOCTOR WHO!!!!!
0 likesfinally, a emplemon video
0 likescan you fix your sound levels. my ears are bleeding
0 likes>6:56
0 likeswhat are ya talking about I'm not irrelevant!
Care to make Uncredibles 2?
0 likes18:30
0 likesAaaaaaaaaand blocked...
When are you making frying Dory?
0 likesBro, is that Emerson Lake and Palmer
0 likesA E W
0 likesA E W
A E W
10:15 sqid game
1 likeI used NordVPN
0 likesdownward spiral downward spiral
0 likesBack in the day EA would kill my custom Dead Space trailers nearly as fast as they killed Visceral Games Studios
0 likes2021, still shit
0 likes17:18 - Tharen.
1 like👌
0 likesWhat's with your infatuation with green Simpson's?
0 likesWhat's the song at 7:18
0 likesRip Marco
0 likesThat's my emp. I already lost hope in you, but there you are. Taking on the establishment. You my man deserve a salute.
0 likesI really appreciate how well researched and Informed your videos seem to be. It makes them incredibly interesting and have good re-watchable ability. It always makes me glad to wait even if it's a long time since it's always a good video.
0 likeshey emp, I have to admit, I'm going to watch Part 2, since I was actually thinking of starting my own channel detailing some covers, rant, and a bit of some VOD streams (Mainly ill do it on Twitch), it'd be honestly nice for you to share some tips for people on the fence of starting a YT career in this absolute hellscape
0 likesEmp, whenever you upload, i drop everything and go to watch. Seriously, you deserve more subs.
0 likesMay we now have a moment of silence for all of the vaporwave artists that got copyright'd by companies
1 likeIt's always a good day when Emp uploads
0 likesI actually have a ton of respect for you putting the affiliate ad at the end, very few content creators do that and it's much less intrusive. and yours was quite a bit funnier too.
0 likesEMp you have become an influencer of the real culture of the Internet. I love it.
0 likesGreat video Emp, luv the subjects you cover. All I will say tho is that I'm pretty sure Youtube doesn't get involved in copyright claims because they don't want to get sued, which actually makes sense considering if a lot multi million dollar corporations like UMG took Youtube to court over every transformative media video and won just a few of those cases then Youtube would go completely bankrupt.
0 likesi feel like everyone has always hated the copyright system
1 likeDon't forget the fact that the bootleggers regularly put the fair use law in their description/in their videos when they clearly don't fall under that protection.
2 likesEmp has some of the most creative sponsor segments ever.
0 likesGreat Video. Looking forward to part 2 (and 3 if you need to)
0 likesI think YouTube can manually check every video claimed, the system is able to detect what part of the video is copyrighted and leave a timestamp. So YouTube can have a specific set of staff, set to watch and review all the time stamps.
0 likesNot expecting everyone to have their claims removed the same day they're trying to fight it, but at least within 3 days. While 3 days are going on, the monetization is still running and which every party wins is granted the money. And depending on how bad the copyrighted video is there will be different punishments.
Also, YouTube will have their staff decide on things instead of those big corporations, who often times than not instantly deny your appeal.
i'm just more and more trying to make everything myself for my short films.
0 likesthe visuals of course, but now also the music, the sounds, the visual effects, ect...
not because i want money, but because i want to widen my horizon.
You've never stop making YouTube Poops, you have just upgraded them to the max level possible
0 likesThe copyright system was broken to begin with starting with the classic ytp days, but since it mostly affected those creators, no one gave a shit.
0 likesI always learn something from your videos and they’re very entertaining
1 likeGreat editing, great music choice
0 likesGreat video as usual
Now prepare for Nintendo to spam you for Icicle Mountain and Flat Zone
Oh and whatever label it is that does Gorillaz
They're pretty anal about stuff too
Gaming channel here. Reached a point where, even when playing for self/not recording, I have a flinch reaction to seeing a jukebox, radio, or other audio media player in games. Background music gets a LOT of questionable claims.
0 likesYoutube: Is everything we've done making the platform almost entirely broken?
0 likesUsers: Yes
Youtube: Okay watch what I'm about to do
I can'r wait 'til part 2 where EmpLemon finally reveals the ploy to pump all this revenue into the sequel to McDonald's Treasure Land Adventure. The signs were all there, we just didn't connect the dots soon enough.
0 likescant wait to see part 2! :D
0 likesMe: sees new EmpLemon video
0 likesAlso me: sees Part 1 in the title
Oh, Emp. You spoil us way too much.
Can't wait for part 2!
0 likesMr Enter uploads a dire warning about Social Credit systems the same day Emp uploads this. Perhaps the omnipresence of cyber surveillance is a truly important issue.
0 likesThis is very good video EmpLemon.
0 likesWWE did you so dirty coming from a wrestling fan which makes you think that Companies actually care about your videos whether falling under copyright or fair use 👍
A curious thought just came to mind.
0 likesWhat if you made 2 channels, one to create content, and one to copyright claim your other channel? You could get all the money from your own channel through the other channel, that way other people can't claim sole ownership of your video, cause you are also claiming your video.
I remember getting content claimed for a Beethoven song once. I forget who the claimant was.
0 likesEverything about Youtube these days feels so depressing. They really want to be a cable company so badly, they make up excuses for their policy changes in order to trim the fat of content creators. Its a dark age right now.
0 likesI remember when people did youtube as a hobby and fun and now everyone just wants money.
0 likesYou should put a thing in the description of your videos telling us if the video is monetized. Then if it's been claimed I'll know to watch on my PC with adblock on lul
1 likeI love the progressive rock in your videos, oh my god! <3
1 likeIt turns out Youtube's system is evan more broken than my cat's habit of trying to eat my dog's kebble.
0 likesI have a feeling that Article 13 is a huge part of the issue. I'm even surprised that some YouTube poop videos from 2008 and 2009 are up as of now.
0 likesYouTube's content claim/block system is so fucked.
0 likesI once uploaded a video that used a 30 second clip of the "Roundabout" song from the JoJo to be continued meme, and for 7 months the video was untouched. Then one day, the video was blocked in all countries.
In response, I removed that section from the video, and reuploaded a new version of the video without it.
A week later, the reupload gets claimed by some company that had no evidence of existing when I googled them. Their claim was basically that the game I was playing was copyrighted and I couldn't use it (as if we were back in 2008 or some shit)
So I re-reupload the video, made no changes, and this time it's fine. No claims, no blocks.
A week later, both previous videos get unblocked and I now have 3 of the same video on my channel with the only differences between them being the outro.
Amazing.
The people manually reviewing the claims seem more robotic than the automated system itself
0 likesThe nordVPN plug was genius, was totally not expecting that
0 likesThis is epic but we still need to rise up.
0 likesWhen's the last time copyright system made sense?
0 likesAnd of course, this doesn't even cover how some channels will be demonetized despite not relying on copyrighted content, simply for saying The Bad Things. (coughStevenCrowdercough)
0 likesIf there is said in part 2 that there is a part 3 and no part 3 gets released can half-life sue Emp?
0 likesThe point about Fantano is really valid, by the time I see a review from him, it’s unnecessary for me cause it’s usually for a new song or album for an artist I like and have already listened to, making a review unnecessary, and without clips, I’m unable to get samples of new bands I haven’t heard of I judge whether I like it despite him saying it’s good or not, is it worth listening to a 40 minute album that he says is great if I don’t like the first song and it’s putting me off? Well if I’m given a sample of the good stuff to come, it can be that little push you need, his content would he so much better if the copyright system didn’t actively fuck you over
0 likesMate they have been improving the copyright system, but still not perfect
0 likesEMP has some serious spiral power!
0 likesI agree with everything but the FlyingKitty's Despacito 2 video. I have my doubts, but I don't know why I feel like music is something different from animations... (Drawings, illustrations, etc).
0 likesThis video made me lose hope in humanity... and wish that copyright didn't exist.
1 likeBrewstew and Emplemon upload in a 24 hour period take it Ice Cube
0 likesI gotta say, today was a good day
Uncredibles is so good
0 likesI still joke with my friend about it and we quote it once in a while
I love it when videos that have nothing to do with Persona uses music from Persona
0 likesThis is the greatest content on youtube
0 likesI did not come here expecting wrestling but I was all for Emp hyping AEW on TNT
0 likesWhat if all of us started a class action against viacom?
1 likeLove your taste in Music!
0 likesNever hear Emerson, Lake and Palmer anywhere
After your done with this series, you should link the soundtrack.
0 likesEdit: thx
I really miss old Anthony
0 likesI knew the downward spiral was up to nothing good
0 likesThe Content ID System is copyrighted by Youtube so... no money for you!...
0 likesThese companies have literal "Fuck you" money. And still, they greed for more...
0 likesYes the downward spiral continues.
0 likes8:00 rest in peace to thatistheplan, may we never forget
0 likesHahahahaah so funny guys! This isn’t actually affecting us directly and thus we will forget it in about half a week just like the other thousands of problems with YouTube and google, right? We don’t have to do anything and this is just le funny meme haha imagine if people’s living conditions depended on this hahahahahahahah
1 liketime for all of us to mass sue umg
0 likeswell there is a solution, just not care about youtubes dismal ad revenue and just have sponsorships from other companies which is what the majority of people are doing anyway. the monetary system put its own rigs in the game to favor corporations. adsense made youtubers make content for money and not content for passion.
0 likesWait, where did that "navy's automated phone service" remix come from @EmpLemon
1 likeI think lemon has watched too much Smash Bros content (specifically Alpharad) cus there is a lot of bold Nintendo Smash tunes on this video😎😎😎
0 likesTe quedo re bueno el video, saludos desde chile
0 likes6:33 PUIUUUUUUIIIIIIIIIIIIG! I honestly didn’t think I’d see my favorite baseball player’s name in an Emp Lemon video...
0 likesPress F for all the fallen pirates
1 likeliterally the greatest youtuber
0 likesSo all the music used in this video is from smash bros. Is this just because Emp’s been playing a lot of smash lately, or is this some kind of cryptic foreshadowing?
0 likesI see a new emplemon video I click
0 likesawful day + Emplemon videos = Good day
0 likesWe don't need no
0 likescopyright claims
We don't need no
blocked vid-e-os....
No shadows corps' looming over...
Hey, Youtube, leave them kids alone!
We're simple rubes... just another... Channel in the 'tube.
Don't mind me, just greasing the algorithm.
1 likeCan’t all YouTubers affected by unfair copyright claims jointly file a class action lawsuit?
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Y’know, one for each mega corporation :P
1 likefirst this, then verified accounts wooshing away
0 likesi'm gonna seriously move to ph
Your video includes the color red, which is infringement on McDonalds. Say goodbye to your revenue
0 likesSo you put in the Joker refrences to make an ad.
0 likesWhatever works works
Good mumkey impression at the end there.
0 likesThat Emerson Lake & Palmer caught me off guard
0 likesMonetization was a mistake.
0 likesYour using the word YouTube so in theory would youtube claim this
1 likewhen will we reach the end of the downward spiral
0 likesI hope to hear about the Deadlock
0 likesCan I reupload this video and give you credit if it ever gets taken down?
0 likesOne Nation under Copyright.
0 likesThe only way to create content and still profit (currently) is to not care about feeding the corporations that are stealing your money, and depending on the fans of the content to support you. PayPal, CashApp, Patreon, etc. are the only services Content Creators like EmpLemon and myself can depend on in order to make money.
0 likes16:46 There's your problem; "private citizen" is not a man or woman but rather a "person" who subjugate themselves to corporations. Private citizen is a fictitious legal entity and is treated no differently than any corporation because, under legal, there is no difference. They are a fictitious legal entity that holds no office and has no rights but rather "privileges". Independent Youtubers don't know how to sue under the common law using a financial hardship status. The requirements are to understand common law and how to properly file paperwork and handle oneself in court. You want freedom; then you must take individual responsibility as an American not a US CITIZEN and learn the common law from which the Constitution was written. Only then will one understand how rights truly work.
0 likesOh my god the joker theme 😂
0 likesDigging the Smash music my man. Great video!
0 likesWhat if you copyright claimed yourself? 🤔
0 likesAnyone know the song around 19:15, it seems it's not included in the paste bin.
0 likestodd in the shadows uses clips in his videos and he said like 95% of his videos are claimed
0 likesWell, even if you would use original Pictures at an Exhibition ELP would not claim your video cause they are mostly dead :(
0 likesInstant like from me due to persona 5 music, tho its still a good video.
0 likes[This comment contains content from UMG who has blocked it on copyright grounds]
0 likesCopyright, as a whole have a whole lot of other issues:
0 likes-Copyright last way too long, thanks to RIAA and Disney wanting to make copyright last far longer than most people are willing to protect their IP. Resulting things like orphaned works and abandonware. There are cases where copyright holders “disappears”, their work aren't “adopted” (transfer ownership) and thus, the work is in-copyright undefended.
^Surprisingly, in 2018, the companies are no longer willing to further extend the copyright term, making 1998 the last time to extend copyright under “Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act”. See the info here: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/a-whole-years-worth-of-works-just-fell-into-the-public-domain/
-EULAs and DRM, companies essentially can write their own laws and prohibit actions that would normally be legal, such as repairing a tractor (f*ck john deere). EULA is backed by contract law, and DRM is backed by the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA.
-DMCA alone have enormous flaws, the latest extreme is when a youtube user named “Cxlvxn” (Calvin on twitter) got swatted when filing a counternotice.
I have talked to my state representative about this, my suggestions are:
-Instead of deleting/removing materials, why not just lock them up and then release them (downloadable from that website) when proven legal or enters the public domain. A database that takedown'ed materials must be uploaded here (not available to public) when this happens (DMCA notice and lawsuits).
-All DMCA notices are not to be private, they are to be hosted in the database, for the public to see. This is my response to things on the internet can be secretly removed. Any person can pay a fee to access the material (also being monitered to prevent that person from sharing that material) to verify the claim and the material, and fight back that the claim is wrong. If the person wins, he'll get refunded, if the copyright holder wins, then the money the person paid goes to that holder.
-Copyright holders must notify the government that they're still holding on to their works every 5 years, if they don't they have until the next 5 years or else their works will enter public domain sooner. This is my response to works that copyright holders cease defending them and abandon them.
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Copyright in general is just a fucked up thing, being abused like Eminent Domain.
0 likesNice use of Tarkus btw.
1 likeYouTube is Tumblr 2: Absolute Shit Boogaloo.
0 likesYou sound like a younger version of Jim Sterling.
0 likesSort-of.
i posted a video with that Trance_ 009 sound system dreamscape and believe it or fucking not. it got copyright claimed
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License expires
0 likesmuch like ncs musics like ahrix nova
Theirs nothing we can do, all we can do is wait until a new competitor to YouTube and jump ship.
1 like18:17 Watch the potty mouth Emp
0 likesI'm here half an hour early because Disney claimed a review of Muppets Wizard of Oz I wanted to watch first.
0 likesLots a tf2 in this vid. I love it ;D
0 likesWhat about that lawsuit PragerU did with youtube?
0 likesHi, im here to let you know that i liked this very video
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0 likesWe should get rid of Capitalism ASAP.
0 likesELP playing in the back is top.
0 likesPlease upload more
0 likesHey I've got a good idea! Why don't we make our own music and put it on our videos? 😮😲🤑
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Well, literal silence has seen strikes, soo...
1 like@odioalospoopers well shit, even silence has been copyrighted. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ANYMORE ALL OF OUR ACTIONS AND WORDS ARE OWNED BY SONY AND UMG!!!!
1 likeIn case anybody wanted to know the ending background music: https://youtu.be/2wEWS3KZJTA
0 likesYoutubers Rise Up
0 likesam i living in a fucking dystopia ?
0 likesyess give us that sweet, sweet persona theme 😯😫😫
0 likesfrom when do you use persona music in your videos?
0 likesIn the end of the video i hear my song by reactor.
0 likesI originally came to this site for Halo 3 machinimas
0 likesCompanies exhude small brain energy
0 likesPlease become like the president or something because you're just one of the best candidates for changing the world
0 likes17:17 RedPill gang inbound
0 likesUnrelated, but do you play melee? And if so, do you play ice climbers? And if so, let's fucking ditto.
0 likesYou should replace WWE with UFC instead.
0 likesstart your weekend with some spiral
0 likesStill waiting for the Star_ video
0 likesHow many copystrikes does this video have?
0 likesgood stuff
0 likesLet’s not forget the crap that obbyraidz and when Calvin got swatted.
0 likesSame energy on wwe emp
0 likesWe live in a lemon
0 likesPlease tell me more about AEW.
0 likesGreetings from Brazil, Rio de Janeiro. U are the best, simply that.
0 likesDownward Spiral
0 likes14:51 "What game is this?"
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Game? If your talking about the Movie, it's the Incredible' If your talking about the Scout Mercenary shrugging, that's Team Fortress 2, and if your talking about the guy pointing at the screen next to Robots, that's Mystery Science Theater 3000
0 likesCLOWNS RISE UP
1 likeAEW? the same aew thats going to have a man as a womens champion lmfao all inclusive imirite?
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Still better than WWE at this point
0 likeshaha I'm using Nord right now sucka!
0 likesAew for life.
0 likesdownwards worldview worldview society
0 likescould you make a separate video for trump joker pls i was in tears
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also great video btw
0 likesjames rolfe clips make me warm
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what about doug walker :)
0 likesI like the part where there was a implied rape scene in one of his movies
If agent 47 exist I bet the CEO of yourube won't fuck with their website because people will start donating and fund that hitman to do a surprise visit
0 likesAll 39 Audio swap songs from 2007:
0 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn1sz7bVexUOaybihTmp2ITv4ibR0_o9_
why can't they use patreon?
0 likesAtleast I’m not vegan
0 likesreal clown hours
0 likesNo Man's land squad!
0 likesso many tf2, jerma, and star references you working on a tf2 vid or somethin
0 likesNice using beneath the mask, persona has my favorite music
0 likesIt helps a lot of you're able to make your own music.
1 liketoo many smash bros songs in this video
0 likesJust look what happened to mcjuggernuggets....
0 likes14:51 Ster_ thumbnail?
0 likesNo Man's Land team where you at?
0 likesMe like angry red vegan meme man
0 likesMontezon preserve us...
0 likesAdpocalypse Now
0 likesCant wait for part 2
0 likesi wanna sneak pass this jokers too
AEW! 😂
0 likesDisliked for pausing 009 Sound System.
0 likesIts time
0 likesGRU
E.L.P., nice!
0 likesCan u do never ever monster jam
0 likesDOWNWORD SPIRAL DOWNWORD SPIRAL DOWNWORD SPIRAL
0 likesmake a downward spiral merch
1 like3 days and less than 250k views? Hmmmmmmmm
0 likesAnd AEW is great
0 likesThis comment was blocked by Viacom.
1 likeDAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAaaaaaa! SHE LIKES LEWBERT!!!
0 likesT-Y-C-M
0 likesFinally an upload, damn boi.
0 likes6:50 k Emp. What’s your iFunny
0 likesNew video let’s go
0 likesTeach me Papa
0 likesUMG
0 likesUnknown
Media
Giant.
(I have no idea who UMG is.
Fuck man that first minute if music hurt my ears
0 likesMusical melon is an og
0 likesNordVPN was a trap, beware of those techy craps next time EmpLemon . Besides, I am really excited for part two so that I can make non-subliminal videos even less copyrighted. At least until I move my content to PeerTube or anywhere open source enough to secure my self-hosting control priviledges.
1 likeLove Gus Buckets
0 likes13:05 wtf?
0 likes2:33 how could you do that
0 likesIt's gone beyond 'Not feeling bad when the bootleggers get caught', for me. I actively resent getting claimed over background music or game cutscenes, while still easily able to find whole episodes of shows on other channels.
0 likesHey bud, have you tried,
2 likesｃｏｍｍｕｎｉｓｍ？？？
I hate copyright
1 likeDOWNWARD SPIRAL
0 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL
DOWNWARD SPIRAL
DOWNWARD SPIRAL
DOWNWARD SPIRAL
where's the QnA?
0 likesCopyright is both great and terrible.
0 likesYou like brockhampton? Cos i heard one of there songs in ur video
0 likesG R E E N S I M P S O N S
0 likes13:07 free robux kids
0 likesA E DUB A E DUB A E DUB
0 likesWow, that was delivered fast.
0 likesI love gus johnson
0 likesIt is him, our favorite youtube guy
0 likesWhat video is that @ 1:30
0 likesTrue story, unsubscribe.
0 likesGankplank galeon 😍
0 likesjared letto is the best joker
0 likesFREE BEIGE!
0 likesCannot wait for Part 2! This was just an incredible video, Emp. Thanks for all the hard work you've clearly been doing to create this. 🖤
0 likesHonestly I do have a high appreciation for Bootleggers. Seeing how whenever there's a scene from a movie/tv show I really like, I always go to Youtube to re-watch it.
0 likesWatching your videos is almost always like taking a History of Youtube 101 course, and I appreciate that.
0 likesSo happy you keep on making great work for us! Thank you!
0 likesI need some advice: Should I watch this video now or should I wait until part 2 comes out to watch it in full?
0 likesThank you for your time.
You've seriously hit the perfect balance between humor and information with this video. Great job, i'm looking forward to part two.
0 likesBut how fucking dare you dislike the anthem of Youtube
Here's how I got banned from livestreaming on YouTube for 3 months, I was streaming the game Fate Extella Link. Normally streaming gameplay is OK except if the publisher gives a big warning beforehand (Persona 5), but these people didn't. I streamed, it got blocked, I asked them why, they said "Well North American version is released now but Europe version doesn't release for 2 more days so we're blocking streaming!" I said OK, but because my livestream was "blocked", YouTube banned my streaming pviledges for 3 months automatically with no appeal form at all, I had to talk to the Fate Extella Link publishers to talk to YouTube for me, really depressing situation and you see faults from both publishers and YouTube themselves. The publishers here though didn't realize that blocking the livestream would make YouTube automatically ban your streaming ability, and YouTube thinks that whenever a livestream is blocked that you're doing the worst of the worst like streaming movies or TV. But in the end, I'm definitely never touching that game again, shame too because people really love the characters.
2 likesI honestly just feel so bad for you and youtubers on this platform, your content is honestly revolutionary and more interesting than most things I even see on TV. Your "Never Ever" Series was even how I found you, and it was an in-depth analysis on what made that topic so good in the first place with some spice of your Youtube Poop editing with the sugar of good and compelling research info. It's truly sad to see how easily companies can literally abuse this system and letting you and other channels literally get thrown into the side when in some contexts it's beneficial for the company who copyrighted it anyway when they don't even need to. Really hope for the next episode and still try to stay afloat in shark waters that is YouTube.
1 likeSo basically, Youtube has evolved from a bootlegger's paradise to a genuine font of creativity, but the copyright system just hasn't caught up.
0 likesI could only guess that copyright claiming your own videos is one of the many ways to avoid getting copyright claimed (or splitting the ad revenue) on the next part.
0 likesWhen you read an EmpLemon video title and immediately get confused, you know it's gonna be a good video.
0 likesAs someone who does shitposts on youtube, I like that you've adressed the copyright BS that I get.
0 likesI like how Jim Sterling does it: load a vid with all sort of copyrighted content, to ensure the vid is content ID'd by several corporations so no one gets any revenue.
0 likesI wonder if someone would be insane enough to take a claimant to court, while representing themselves?
0 likesI hope we get a couple nerfs and buffs for YouTube in the next patch updates
1 likeI remember countless youtube videos I bookmarked back in the day that ended up muted. Not a single one survived. I had to find reuploads. I don't have then saved today because upon rewatching them I realized they are hot garbage.
0 likesYou really need to get more videos up, you're one of the most entertaining people on youtube! Also Carn Evil 9 is fucking sick!
0 likesThis was the single best sponsor plug I have seen in my life
0 likes19:50 Good to see you using your own, completely self-made background music!
0 likesI look forward to your next video Emp. Will certainly help me out with my content.
0 likesHey, this was an excellent, entertaining and informative video, but I think you lost me at the part where you had a man turn his head and cough.
0 likesI've had to deal with the same thing happening around 17:32 with a review I did on Cheers, I literally had less than around 30 seconds of a clip from Cheers which had some B-Roll placed on top, after I removed that and moved more stuff around they went hey no copyrighted material here.
0 likesI hope that the techniques the people use to avoid copyright claims can still be used by the creators after you post a video pointing out what those techniques are.
0 likesI believe there are some really easy fixes to YouTube Strikes (both copyright and community guideline.
1 likeA. Have everybody upload a transcript of their video with the video, maybe not even synced with the audio. Reviewers and commentary channels already have their scripts written. It’s bootleg and pirating channels that will be forced to take time to write out a lengthy script.
B. Check the script with the autocaptions. Scripts that are obviously fake (10% fidelity) can get easily found out.
Actual text is much easier to check for content ID than the crapshoot that is AI identification. The script can also be available to watchers, meaning the YouTuber can more easily employ their own audience to make good captions and in multiple languages.
C. Human Review. YouTube has an army of people who watch an hour or more of YouTube a day. A lot of them would like the benefits of YouTube Premium (no ads, download videos) but don’t want to pay. YouTube can track your watch time, and if you go over, say, 1 hour in a day, they offer you a pre-roll. It says, “Want YouTube Premium for 24 hours? Manually review this video!” YouTube informs the viewer what the video was flagged for. The watcher then watches the whole video, unable to skip it (like an ad), and at the end, YouTube simply asks “Was this video suitable for [ ] children and families, [ ] teens and older, or [ ] mature audiences.” Then, “does this video include copyright material from Company X.”
I don’t think it’s a silver bullet, but it seems like a good start to me to employ the YouTube community.
Another great episode of THE TRUTH!
1 likeCan't wait for part 2!
0 likesI started watching youtube when I was a young, sonic-obsessed boy. I used youtube to watch all 3 seasons of Sonic X, the only Sonic tv show that wasn't on netflix.
0 likesI hope a lot of people see this before its suspiciously taken down..
2 likesI wish we could create a different site where people would be paid for their work instead of it relying on viewership and copyright.
0 likesBUT THAT’S JUST A THEORY
I wish this wasn’t around kickoff because I would watch this to completion immediatky
0 likesYou can bring them to small claims court, it's much more streamlined and has a maximum financial penalty of $5,000 so they can't counter sue for a sizable amount. The court fees are also much smaller, around only $35 for a filing. You can also offer a percentage of your possible court winnings in your lawyer's contract to subsidize cost
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For most claims on youtube the results are pretty cut and dry, so your lawyer likely wouldn't need a lot of time to formulate a case. If you have an hourly agreement with your lawyer this means the costs will likely not exceed 1-2k in fees
0 likesThe Emp is in the house! God, I've been waiting for this!
0 likesI have never seen an advertiser for sponsored content on this website more effective than Joker Emp
0 likesWell done as always.
0 likesThat's a real fucking bummer about your Never Ever on RAW. Definitely one of my favorite videos you've ever made.
0 likesHere we go.
0 likesRan ran ru.
I'm honestly expecting a YouTuber to eventually meet the company that copyrights them in real life, in person, one day.
Lore bit: The downward spiral effects all forms of technology
0 likesAnyone ever just sit there and think, man, theres no way in hell my info hasnt been sold to China already? Feels Bayt Main
0 likesCan we call every moment YouTube fucks up an "Oh YouTube moment"?
0 likesEmp is just giving me more reasons to watch AEW
0 likesEmp I'm not very sure if it'd be such a wise idea to make a public video showing how people can get past the Content ID bot.
0 likesEven though it might not look like it, there still are real people working at Youtube, at least people who program and update the site. I don't think it'd turn out too well if one of those people saw a video pointing out all the holes in their current iteration of the Content ID algorithm.
Ever noticed how spirals have no theoretical end? No matter how far you zoom it all looks the same, and in the end we will always be in a downward spiral.
0 likes(NOTE: this is a joke) i don't think its a good idea to upload part 2 to youtube. its basically giving them ideas to try and counter the ways other youtubers get around false copyright. i highly recommend you upload the video to lessser known video sites like vidme or daily motion.
0 likesI guess we could say that the roots of youtube are bootleggers
0 likesEven the co-founder could be one
YouTube giving away free money was bait for the trap, and it gave them a near total monopoly on video hosting online. Competitors can't offer monthly payouts to YouTubers like Google can, and some people have built their lives around that money, so they won't jump ship even if a less censorious option appears.
0 likesThere's no real solution for monetization (yet), but at the very least YouTubers in Modern Year need to be looking at alternative networks to function as backup channels. Bitchute is okay-ish (mostly), but PeerTube instances offer a more flexible, less censorious network to host content on. Using YouTube as the main, and PeerTube as the backup makes it easy to at least keep your content visible to everybody. Add a Patreon, SubscribeStar, or Flote account (if you're into the cryptocurrencies), and you can point your viewers at them after a Copystrike against you causes a stir among them.
It won't be enough to make up for the kind of money Google/YouTube can offer through AdSense and the Partner Program, but people need to realize that the pennies they give out is only ever about securing their monopoly and creating a serf class to prop up their platform. The time to diversify into other platforms and revenue streams is now, while there's time to ease into it. Not during the next Adpocalypse or Copyright disaster. Don't wait for the crises to hit before you start building Plan B.
FYI, I've got 11 years in the army. My information has been sold to every country that exists and will exist. Hell, that strip of 9 numbers is everywhere in the world now.
0 likes19:38
0 likesHow ironic that you preach about fair use but use Rusty Cage’s amazing, original piece of music without credit!
Unsbubed!!
Nevermind, just checked the pastebin. You have earned my resubb.
these vids are always a treat
0 likeswhat if everyone on youtube decided to not upload anything for a week or month and move to somewhere else for that time?
0 likesEmp you are on a great big lawsuit. You made a big mistake lemon.
0 likesGreat video as always.
0 likesYou know, you used the word “meta” in this video
0 likesBut I thought of doing that first, a few hours ago
Expect a copy strike soon, “Electro Magnetic Pulse Lemon”
14:10 Internet Historian did nothing wrong
1 likeCan we get an "F" for literally every channel that speaks or posts German in any way? Especially Dr. Ludwig.
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Why?
0 likes37 minutes after the vid landed, i want another one. Its like fast food.
1 likeUploading content to YouTube is now harder than crossing into the Canadian boarder.
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That’s not hard though
0 likesI’m surprised the segment with Emp shit talking the WWE didn’t end with the screen going black and Emp being attacked by the Fiend.
1 likeNow everyone gets a taste of the Downward Spiral
0 likesThis is the birth of EmpLemon censoring his vids. R.I.P. Good EmpLemon content. 😭😭😭
0 likesAnother fantastic video!
0 likesA video from emplemon? Ok this is fucking insane🔥🔥🔥🔥
0 likesI like that the downward spiral meme is still goin haha
0 likesI want a downward spiral shirt so badly, man
0 likesEnough is ENOUGH !
0 likesIf youtubers actually cared and would do something other than a #youtubeisoverparty things wouldn't be so bad
0 likesWe need something just like youtube but we can cuss and shit like that you know?
0 likesIts good to see a new emplemon video
0 likes18:18 Lemon delivering some pipebomb promo against WWE
0 likesThank you emplemon!
0 likesWe truly live in a society.
0 likesWith fake nose and glasses in the next episode, Emp is going to teach youtubers how to avoid ContentID bot detection.
0 likesNice verification check mark, would be a shame if you've lost it.
1 likeIt's never gonna be better if all you can do is hope
0 likesI remember when I posted a video of an Alex Van Halen drum solo back in 08/09, and it was just muted. I tried to re-upload, and the same shit. Honestly, at that time I thought I was gonna have legal issues or have my channel removed, but what's a 13 year old to believe lol Some years later, I see the video isn't playable because content isn't available to the USA. Now I go on the same video, and it's actually playable now, solo and all.
0 likesOne of my videos was claimed for the use of music so old copyright no longer applied, I appealed and won though...
0 likesIt’s so wrong that you need to play a game to have a good channel. Copyright system is so stupid, anybody can use it and your channel will get fricked if get copyright claimed. And YouTube won’t do anything, they don’t care about content creators.
0 likesNoticed that the downward spiral video on your alt channel got taken down, do you have a list of all the songs that were on it?
0 likesYou used Munkey's song again without crediting him? How is he going to make ends meet without those royalties, especially when he keeps spending all his money on booze and expensive cat toys?
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copyright metajoke
0 likes18:23 Was that a Mista GG reference?!
0 likesGreat video, but something about the editing feels off
0 likesMake a video that violates TOS? That's a paddlin'.
0 likesMake a video that doesn't violate TOS? That's a paddlin'.
Make a video exposing unfair and biased TOS?
You better believe that's a paddlin'.
I need a downward spiral t-shirt
0 likesI thought we all voted for a 50 minute video?
0 likeslol copyright is just another way to stop the expantion in art.
1 likeI enjoy your videos but I really loved your memes before
0 likesIn b4 youtube will update their copyright policies for the worse based on this series.
0 likesHow does YT still have such a large userbase??
0 likesSimply epic
0 likesThe only way to fix a problem like this is to either A: sue Google (good luck), or B: move to a new video platform (ie Bitchute). As long as YouTube has the power, they have no reason to care about the creators. And the more people like Mumkey are censored and deplatformed, the more people will be forced to move off of YouTube. It is inevitable at this rate.
0 likesthat fucking intro though
0 likesso great
Karn Evil 9 in the background, fuckin nice! I sometimes forget Emp likes Prog
0 likes>uses persona 5 music
0 likesI see you're a man of many culture
What if we just...
0 likesStop uploading videos?
ABSOLUTELY DOWNWARD SPIRAL
1 likeSend in The Copyright Clowns.
0 likesDownward spiral keeps getting worse.
0 likesNot only that but there are people that claim leaked songs from people such as Kanye West because they know they’ll keep getting reuploaded and get consistent views and get the ad revenue from it and the people that actually worked on the song get nothing but YouTube doesn’t do anything about it
1 like4:48 Karn Evil 9! A man of taste I see.
0 likesJokerEmp is a really good edit of your logo by the way. Just wanted to say.
0 likesgimme some of that internet money
1 likeP5 music? I see you’re a man of culture...
0 likesYou're the GOAT
0 likeswatch out before persona copyrights ya, bro
0 likesJokerEmp should be an eternal character
0 likesTell me what company takes this for copyright
0 likesThAnk dUByA they fixed the music issue
0 likesor so the email in the inbox claims
Thanks a lot, capitalism.
1 likeI made a video and in less than 3 mins mine got strike
0 likesAlso granted I don’t get money has sub amount but I just find it funy
#youtube owes me my money
0 likesWhere on earth did you acquire an instrumental variant of Karen Evil 9 1st Impressions Part 1
0 likesTbh are the risks worth it when Patreon (or other money sites) and merchandise exist? Like I feel like Patreon is a way more worth it and the only disadvantages I see are lacks of Money from views/kids and Patron taking some of the cut.
0 likesI fucking love this lemon
0 likesIs that REALLY the Amazing Atheist at the end? Blast to the past wow
0 likesITS DOWNWARD SPIRAL BOYS LETS GO
0 likes18:21 - 18:31 HELL YEAH BROTHER
0 likesHe’s back our preacher is back
0 likesWhich muli-million dollar company will copyright strike this video for the few dollars it will generate?
0 likesleave your bets now and you will find out soon™!
That midi of Karn Evil 9 though.
0 likesBAH GAWD, EMPLEMON TURNS HEEL ON THE WWE!
0 likesFinally a video!!!!!
0 likesGood to see old mumbo jumbo in here
0 likes"Clown based society"
0 likesHope you aren't dogwhistling there mister Lemon
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stop the clowning
0 likesRusty Cage background music starts playing
0 likesthe persona 5 music came out of nowhere
0 likesThoughts on FairTube?
2 likesLemon pulling out ChristianU2ber in 2019 tho
0 likesHim and JoshU2ber ran a great fiasco during that time
Can this just become the tarkus channel
0 likes5:08 Is that ELP I hear?!
0 likesPress F for Robbie Rotten.
0 likesUMG=Money
2 likesI just wanna grill for god's sake
0 likesIf they can they will.
0 likesFuck yes new EmperorLemon video
0 likesCopyright 4D chess
0 likesnew emplemon video? i like
0 likesUMG punching the air rn
0 likess o c i e t y
0 likesYouTubers rise up
Fun ad at the end
0 likeswait so why 2 parts is it that it takes so long to upload eh
0 likesNO they got Mumbo Jumbo
1 like14:30 Are those.... Yellow Simpsons?
0 likesMEANWHILE IN THE PHILLIPINES
0 likesman its 037 in the middle of the night i should go to sleeap my face and stay awake for another 22 minutes
12 people work for megacorperations
0 likesGANG WEED EmpLemon
0 likesUh oh, YouTube Bad
0 likesI'm sorry your video has the word "react" in it you are gonna have to take this video down
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Now your comment has “react” within it! Prepare to be copyrighted!
1 likeOh no! Now I’m going to be copyrighted!
2 likes@Griffin O'Leary we are all fucked
3 likesYoutube fucked the corporate system
0 likesWe live in a society gang weeders
0 likesRip Verified status
0 likesPlease use more persona music
0 likespoor mumbo
0 likesStop ! MacPolice !
0 likesdo you understand he uses song karn evil 9 which stands for CARNIVAL and he uses a circus from a fucking carnival thats my man right there
0 likesEMERSON LAKE AND PALMER I HAVE THAT SHIITS ON VINYL MY MAAANN\
that Trump joker scene was fucking brilliant
0 likesNobody has a worse experience with this than David Productions
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The anime studio or a YouTube channel?
0 likes@Tom Cruise The former
0 likesNice to see again.
0 likesWtf was that Minecraft intro
0 likesWe don't care about the "downward spiral" stop talking about it. It's a dumb inside joke
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We are all jokes inside the spiral.
2 likesAEW! AEW! AEW! AEW!
0 likesSmash OST nice
0 likesNice music
0 likesOh shit it's Bus Jackson
0 likesThis is why I'm never going to be a youtuber
0 likesany honkers in chat?
0 likesif you have to rely on copyrighted content to not be boring or bland maybe that says more about you or other you tubers than anything to do with the copyright system. I think fair use should exist but your argument is horrible.
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that copyrighted content is extremely recognizable and relatable because people nowadays see as much of it as they do things in the real world, like cars or trees. im not kidding either, think of how recognizable just the outline of spongebob is. he's as ingrained in most peoples brains as the silhouette of an apple. so then to not be allowed to make use of spongebob to say, idk, transform a scene from the show to look like spongebob is killing everyone becomes unreasonable. corporations have shoved star wars and cartoons and all this iconography down our throats and largely against our wills since most of us were born. theyre key components of our world, and a creative mind makes use of the key components of their world, often to turn them into something new. now key components are being locked behind paywalls because ppl who already made bank with them years and years ago still get to hold all the value they potentially hold, even if some of that value only comes from others who have new ideas for these pre-existing things. taking away access to these components leaves only what the creators of those components had, which are now less useful because they have been used to make new things, and making new things from them will only yield bland and overdone results. thats where the blandness and boringness comes from. i think emplemons editing skill and comedic timing should tell you that hes more than capable of making great content as long as he has access to the same quantity of creative fuel that everyone before him had
0 likesWhy do you hate me Aaron Lemos?
0 likesI never noticed how much you like jethro tull
0 likesLol nice elp the backround
0 likesNice
0 likesAnyone have any free pc editing softwares for making videos like kitty0706? I actually wanna make good videos one day but i don't have the money right now to get good stuff? If you actually suggest something i would appreciate it alot (also hoping EmpLemon see's this somehow)
0 likesBoy oh boy some more emplemon content.
1 like17:25
0 likesI love you
0 likes13:05 wtf
0 likesMusic 12:40
0 likesThis is why you shouldn't make YouTube your job
0 likesSees the add for a VPN
0 likesMe: scofs and clicks away
song at 7:18?
0 likesUse bitchute. Youtube doesn't give a flying fuck what the users think and absolutely will not listen, no matter what bullshit happens. Google can buy their way out of court. The only way to fix this shit is to move to a different platform, namely bitchute.
0 likesContinuing to rely on this platform and this platform alone is YOUR problem.
Bitchute may be spicier, but you don't have to rely on godawful ads to get money. Users can directly support content creators through bitchute.
18:06
0 likesUwu what's this persona 5 music is swee your a man of culture
0 likesTrap lore ross
0 likesELP, ELP...
0 likesThat WWE thing at the end sounded like the most Vince McMahon thing I could possibly think of. Just doing something to piss off the othe side, even if it is gonna harm themselves.
0 likesAlso, your ad has no power over me. My data is already well-known by the Chinese goverment because I own a Huawei phone! How are you gonna counter that JokeEmp?!
NO Mcdonald RAN RAN RU
0 likesIt's true, I first came here just to watch episodes of Trailer Park Boys before the show really caught on in the US and it was the only place to do so.
0 likesNumber 8, burp.
0 likes13:06
1 likeUsing the slow, Persona 5 music? Great taste Emp.
0 likesHow come you always color the Simpson’s green??
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Copyright
0 likesKindhapp Says hi but he literally says in this video he puts copyrighted content into his videos purely for the point to put copyrighted content in his videos (not all the time however)
0 likesJust seems like a hypocritical move. Or maybe he’s chicken🤷🏻♂️
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0 likesLARIPS DRAWNWOD
0 likesclowntube
0 likesadblock
0 likesI think copyright abuse is part of the reason why old-guard, original memes like Wojak persist and grow
0 likesI like clowns...
0 likesA E DUB
0 likesWow
0 likesAyy mumbo jumbo 0:36
0 likes11:34
0 likesI always love watching these copyright videos EmpLemon. Ever since i my first YTP was claimed by b_viacom, I looked to your videos about why the hell this shit is going on.
0 likesThanks
You know it's gonna be a great weekend when lemon uploads 🙌👌
0 likesAaah yes, complaining/discussion about YouTube. a lemony classic!
0 likesLove your stuff Emp
I used to want to start up a YouTube channel. I gave up on that idea because of how bad it’s gotten. It’s too hostile towards the creators for me to put the effort into fighting everything aimed towards keeping small channels small. Everywhere I look, I see nothing but reasons not to upload as opposed to upload. It’s hell. YouTube broke their website, and that broke me.
1 likeI can't believe someone would go that low and copyright a redstone minecraft you tuber.
2 likesLove the melee music as a total melee nerd. Thanks emp! you the best!
0 likesIt,s a great day when Mr enter and emp lemon upload after so long.
0 likesYou know shit is serious when it's only part 1
0 likesHey emp great vid! Keep it up!
0 likesplease crowd fund a class action lawsuit to stop this abuse of the copyright
0 likesI wonder why YouTube never tried to fix copyright claim, instead working other thing like, removed verified.
0 likesYouTube legally can not interfere. To fix copyright we would have to fix copyright laws.
0 likesI come from the space odyssey gate open scene, I gota say I appreciate your downward spirals intros even more
0 likesGood, insightful video emp
1 likeCan’t wait for part 2
0 likesI’m strapped in and ready for the downward spiral
0 likesThank you Emp, very cool.
0 likesSay hello to the new verification system kids!
1 like7:18
1 likeI didn’t expect Emplemon of all people to use a Persona 5 song in his videos, but here we are.
Thank you for content all-knowing father of shitposts
0 likesEmplemon: uploads a video
0 likesMe: I sleep
Emplemon: uploads a video about YouTube.
Me: REAL SHIT?
Always happy to see you in my notifications emp
0 likesLove it or hate it, emp speakin straight faxs 😳
0 likesLove your videos!
0 likesI am a simple man i see a Emp Lemon video i click
0 likesFinally. Some good fucking content.
0 likesFATHER EMP HAS RETURNED WITH GRAPE JUICE.
0 likesWhat's this, my private information is stolen by China?
0 likesI play my UNO reverse card: NordVPN!
You've been outplayed, Joker Lemon!
A month later, god uploads again
0 likes1:16 when your mom is trying to pose for a good picture
2 likesFor some reason, this video didn’t appear in my recommended like how all of the other videos that I am notified of do. How strange.
0 likesTotally true, Emp. Glad to see this being brought up.
0 likesThank you for posting a video Love!
0 likeshavent watched the video yet because its only been up for one minute, but amazing video.
1 likeYou can get as many views and subs from talking into a webcam now, as you could in 2009. The only thing that's changed is that people expect to get more than a few hundred views to be successful now >_<
0 likes7:18 P5 music? ah i see you're a man of culture
0 likesThe Copyright Spiral.
0 likesEMPLOAD :downward-emp: :load:
2 likeswait i just uploaded a fanmade music video which was took down for copyright strike wtf
0 likesFuck it’s time for the dose of downward spiral
0 likesEMPLOAD :downward-emp: :load:
0 likesPersona and Gorillaz music in the same video? You and I have the same musical tastes
0 likesALL HAIL MONTIZON!
0 likesNice video my man
1 likeHoly shit an EmpLemon video
0 likesLove ur vids
0 likesNice return to ELP in your videos
0 likesThe Down Fall Of Fun
0 likesWe live in a
1 likeD o w n w a r d
S p i r a l c i e t y
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It's just spirals
0 likesall the way down
Aw yeah its gamer time
0 likesAs soon as I saw an upload I had to watch!
0 likesNice persona 5 music.
0 likesprobably gonna get copyrighted though
YouTube has failed us! We must switch to...
0 likesWARNING: SHAMELESS PLUG!
WARNING: SHAMELESS PLUG!
WARNING: SHAMELESS PLUG!
WARNING: SHAMELESS PLUG!
vlare.tv
More broken than chris chan's duck
0 likesI HAVE BEEN SUMMONED.
0 likesMAY I INTRODUCE MYSELF?
Epic!
0 likesEpic game time
0 likesEmp best YouTuber
0 likesCorporate tube strikes again
1 likeThe fact you haven't used the voice clip from the Donald Trump board game where one of the actors say "Whats your game Donald?" hurts me deeply.
0 likesI just want to make a video of the simpsons food clips
0 likesHERE WE GO
0 likesWe’re back in boys
0 likesi'm sorry but the intro just made me go back to AVGN but then again everything makes me go back to AVGN
0 likesReplies (1)
also RUN RUN ROOOOO!!!!!!! but isn't that more nico video
0 likesmissed you boy
0 likesWatch this video get copyrighted
0 likesYouTube Endgame.
1 likeThis is why I only upload to pornhub
0 likesHere we fucking go!
0 likesHey Emp! How are you doing?
0 likesDownward spiral
0 likesepic very WIN!!
1 likedownward spiral
1 likeAwh shit, here we spiral again
0 likesYAY NEW UPLOAD
0 likesNice AEW plug
0 likesJESUS LEMON IS BACK 0_0
0 likesNEW DOWNWARDS SPIRAL
0 likesTHIS WHOLE FUCKIN VIDEO CONTAINS COPYRIGHT MATERIAL FROM UMG
0 likesWHICH HAS
WHICH HAS BEEN BLOCKED ON THE COPYRIGHT GROUNDS
THEIR UNCLE AINT THE ONLY THING THEY POUND DOWN IN RIAA BLUES
Based Grillman
0 likesDid you get unverified as well?
0 likesIn b4 this video gets falsely claimed
0 likesMake Frying Shrek
2 likesYoutube is dead
1 likegood video kthxbye gonna get copykilled
0 likes9:37 why is the fantano green?
0 likesWILL YOU BE MY SECOND DAD
0 likesMmm yes, enslaved bullshit
0 likesWho’s this sliding into my em box
0 likesepic
0 likesThis made me striaght
0 likesWe all love bus Jackson
0 likesIma trump fan but that joker/trump edit is too funny
1 likeCool new series
0 likesReplies (1)
Yeah copyright is pretty shitty nowadays, I made a YouTube poop back in the day that I think I either removed or is still up but Viacom claimed it, I didn’t know other people were having this issue though
0 likesHEYYYYY Persona 5 music!
0 likesDOWNWARD SPIRAL
0 likes20 million dislike bomb incoming
0 likesI havent even watched the video
0 likesOh yeah boi a new video
0 likesYESSSS
0 likesGAMeR time
0 likesI love gus johnson
0 likesSusan "clown" Wojcicki?
0 likesOh boy syrup
0 likestfw the video came out 1min ago but some nigga was here already 12 hours ago
0 likesДля меня не было бы
0 likesWow
0 likesWould a class action lawsuit against youtube or these media companies for copyright abuse be possible?
0 likes1:01
0 likesThese poor baby angels won't make youtube money anymore. F
0 likesAE DUB AE DUB AE DUB
0 likesRAN RAN RUU!
0 likesMumkey should copyright this
0 likesI cant wait till Atlus claims the persona 5 music
0 likesbro just watch NJPW its better
0 likesClownworld Spiral
0 likesClownworld Spiral
Clownworld Spiral
Welp. I guess I should be an edm producer and an animator to avoid such a nightmare.
0 likesWhere do you place bootleggers who upload unedited footage that's no longer accessible via the original owners? Archives of Old shows that never get shown anymore?
0 likesJoker Emp is oc
0 likes5:30 is that Tarkus by ELP?
0 likesYES
0 likesThen gangplank galleon
1 likeYEEEEEHAAAAWWWW
0 likesmy god i'm early
0 likesYou talk as if you don't get claimed for your own creations.
0 likeslmao 100gecs
0 likesyes big dady
1 likeSOCIETY
0 likeswhats the show here : 4:32
0 likesReplies (1)
You are a lucky man... (It's call "Happy Tree Friends", DO NOT look it up!)
0 likesThis didn't show on my feed fuck YouTube
0 likeslol 5 views and 109 likes god damn guys
0 likesDo frying Dory
0 likesmore Never Ever
0 likeskarn evil 9
0 likes"jawd karim"
0 likesWhy is the mashed potato green?
0 likesIts back
0 likescool
0 likesHere before 1mil :)
0 likesMubo jumpo no 😔
0 likesPossible communism?
0 likes2 years later
0 likesUm I think there's a mistake in your music list, the last song was actually by Simian Jimmy, not Rusty Cage
0 likesFloppy noodle
0 likesEmpLemon, What is your standing opinion of ifunny?
0 likes#WTFU
0 likesHehe, society trump
0 likesBuncha clowns
1 likeno relief
0 likesYO ELP MUSIC NICE
0 likesFor God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 KJV, Jesus Christ is the only way........
0 likesJoe?
0 likesJoe mama
Copyright claiming, a good idea, worst result in the universe. I’m not joking, can copyright claim Pewdiepie, and I have 11 subs
0 likesWhy does it say that emp lemon doesn’t have any subscribers
0 likesReplies (1)
The devil
0 likesI don't make revenue anyway so I don't give a fuck.
0 likesImma need to see that part 2 because me videos stay getting blocked
0 likescool cool yeah cool man yeah cool cool yeah cool
1 likeIm wet
0 likesWhat is the song at 15:20
0 likesReplies (3)
Flat Zone 2
1 like@Tea Master Thank you
0 likesAndrew Royall No problem bro
1 likeGuys just go to porn hub
0 likesWait, could you use copyrighted material if you cite its origin?
0 likesyeah okay
0 likescoppa coppa coppa coppa coppa
0 likesYouTube has addressed this issue. They have changed the policies reguarding manual copywrite claims.
0 likesYou just stole mumkey's music.
0 likes7 views 222 likes
0 likesBring back YTP
0 likesGorillaz b side heard
0 likesGood
0 likesDidn’t show up in my sub feed
0 likesDO A VIDEO ON PETER CAINES DOG TRAINING VIDEOS (The guy with sam the raven)
1 likeyoooo beneath mask lol
0 likes:/
0 likesWhy is the Simpsons footage Green?
0 likesReplies (2)
It’s so he doesn’t get falsely copyright claimed.
0 likesMakes sense
0 likesOy vey and screech
0 likesgamers...
0 likesCorptube
0 likesHi emp
0 likesHi emp
0 likesoh no
0 likesHahaha
0 likesLemon
0 likesPeople call YouTube stupid or the worst because of the copyright, look, they want this out of the way too, its not easy to deal with big corporations.
0 likescool but where is frying dory
0 likesWell now.
0 likesHa ha jokes on you, my ip address is already on dark web
0 likesWhat's your iFunny account?
0 likesOh s*** Donald Trump does sound like forget the guy's names joker
1 likefather I have arrived
0 likes*obligatory 'early' comment*
0 likesSimpsons green
0 likesholy
0 likesoh yeah bay beee
0 likesHey you're alive
0 likesso... is Emp an ice climbers main?
0 likesWe have arrived.
0 likesThis is honestly quite terrible
0 likesreported
0 likesEmerson, like and Palmer
0 likesJoker Trump is my favorite!
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