You can actually get monitization back without going to court. Just call their bluff and deal with the video being shut down for 2 weeks. It's a pain, but I've done it and won.

@CGoody lol you gonna foot that legal Bill if he loses?

@CGoody lol you gonna foot that legal Bill if he loses?

I can only read GFM comments in his voice and i cant stop

I can only read GFM comments in his voice and i cant stop

@CGoody That’s the thing.  Everything you’re saying comes with the implication that you believe the system is perfectly fine and shouldn’t change.  And lawmakers can’t make YouTube change their copyright bot, which is what I’m talking about.  Lawmakers also aren’t going to force YouTube to do anything directly, they write laws.  People like you, who just hand wave arguments away with “just work to get the laws changed” or “throw money at the problem” are insufferable.

@Serious Saitama No, that's not what I said.  I said if you have a problem with the way things are, write to your lawmakers because they're the ones to blame, not youtube.  People like you who put words in peoples mouths are insufferable.

If I had a false copyright claim on content I made, you best believe I'd be putting my money where my mouth is, if only because of principle.  I'm willing to take a loss over it.  You should be too, and so should many others.  The fact that people aren't willing to and continue to make excuses about why they aren't is pathetic.

@CGoody This is such a cowardly take.  You’re basically saying you think everything is perfect the way it is and shouldn’t change at all because you suspect that the company might be hurt by redoing their content ID system.

I’m saying that if YouTube is going to host and benefit off of content, it is also their responsibility to make sure copyright is used properly.  They’re the host after all, and the content ID system is made for this.  Problem is that it sucks because it auto-flags videos for having a second or 2 of said material.  The system can’t actually distinguish between what is and isn’t transformative.  Not to mention that there are tons of loopholes for people who ACTUALLY INFRINGE ON COPYRIGHT to do so with impunity.  They should make it better, content ID is currently the bare minimum of what YouTube needs so that they won’t be held accountable in the event of a lawsuit.

@Serious Saitama I explained my position; put up or shut up.  Crowdfunding is a thing.  You care so much, you should contribute in some way.

If YouTube did that, they lose safe harbor privelage and they are liable for ANY infringement that takes place.  YouTube shouldn't have to pay for your copyright legal issues.  If you want that to change, you need to write to your lawmakers and tell them, because YouTube is simply doing what they must to not be liable for other people's infringement.

@CGoody Yeah, take serious legal action that will cost thousands of dollars.  I’m sure most people can afford that, while also losing money off their check due to not getting money from the video they made.  That’s a bad argument.  YouTube is a multibillion dollar company, and they should protect the people who make the content if the company is going to collect so much revenue from creators.

@kondaresto I know far better than you do apparently

@kondaresto I know far better than you do apparently

@CGoody man you really have no idea of how things work

@CGoody man you really have no idea of how things work

Guess just try it and keep in mind who it works with and doesn’t.

Guess just try it and keep in mind who it works with and doesn’t.

@Jordan Thomas "just because they can't doesn't mean they don't"

That doesn't make any sense

I agree but would rather the websites just be fully liable for all content. That way companies are the one's suing YouTube, not me.

Sucks for us just trying to make entertainment, but how much do you want them to actually pay for harassing us?

False. Not everyone has a verified mark to get that extra push.

False. Not everyone has a verified mark to get that extra push.

@Aria Jacobs He's probably not old enough to have a job and doesn't realize how the real world works.

@Awsometime except the robber is some mafia boaa. you wanna press charges against a mafia boss?

@Jordan Thomas you're probably a little kid and the pfp isn't yours

@Vainglory the most they can do is drag it out; they cant change the facts of the case.  A reasonable judge + a competent lawyer + a meritorious case + the will to deal with years of prolonging = a win no matter how much funding the opponent has.

Either you have a meritorious case and it's worth fighting to you, or you have no room to complain to begin with.  Choosing to not hold those breaking the law accountable is as much of a problem as those breaking the law to begin with.

@CGoody have fun winning a court case against a billion dollar company.<br>Not even Phoenix Wright himself can save you.

@CGoody have fun winning a court case against a billion dollar company.
Not even Phoenix Wright himself can save you.

@jbcooler ninja oh my bad!! Sorry bout that lmao

@jbcooler ninja oh my bad!! Sorry bout that lmao

@Jordan Thomas no i said very mature cause you said joe mama

@Jordan Thomas no i said very mature cause you said joe mama

@jbcooler ninja bruh its been a year my only point was companies do illegal shit all the time lmao

@CGoody An average person couldn't feasibly crowd fund anywhere near enough legal funds to fight the fucking music industry lol. A lawyer who takes a percentage after you win, you'd have to win first and after to those terms. You're not exactly being fair here.

@clamdove for the millionth time; crowdfunding, or a lawyer who takes a percentage after winning instead of an hourly rate.

@CGoody what if you can't afford a lawyer, and you don't have a law degree

@Polocatfan so do murder, theft, piracy, and rape not happen anymore bc they're illegal

@Polocatfan be like "heh, do you accept reddit karma?"

@Polocatfan be like "heh, do you accept reddit karma?"

@Tom Hill if one is going to lay down at their feet when they attack, they really have no right to complain about it.

I mean, they can, but it's meaningless nonsense at that point

If someone crowdfunds a legal campaign against false copyright claims by large companies, I'll be sure to donate.  Sadly, I have a feeling I'll be one of the few rather than the many.

@CGoody Yeah, legally, heheh, sure buddy. I'm picking up what your throwing down. Though personally I'd start with ..."property value adjustment", then work from there.

But yeah we fundamentally agree. Fight evil, until you win.

@Tom Hill exactly.  Talking as if nothing can be done is in of itself a problem.  As a community, there are clearly ways to fight back.  The problem is the community will talk about it, and don't actually do anything or try anything; they just incessantly complain.

No one said it would be easy, but there is a way to fight back legally.  It's up to us to do so, or support those that actually.... Take the shot

@Blueberry Blues crowdfunding solves that, or lawyers who take a percentage after winning.  Stop whining the same nonsense I've already answered.  Unethical isn't inherently illegal, and there are solutions.  Cry about it.

@CGoody take the shot?...Shoot them? ...well one can't argue against the effectiveness, it worked on Carnegie, he changed his tune real quick.

@CGoody I mean technically it's an unfair burden, but yes, we should be hurting UMG, even if it hurts us, however we'll need to unite. any 1 of us just doesn't have the money to take UMG.

@Randomly Entertaining Then we should assemble a warband to make UMG bleed for it. Anyone know a lawyer looking for a cause?

Cory Goodman You're right, I guess I should just have the money and legal assistance to attack a giant company. I don't have those, but if I just start having them right now, everything would be fine.

@CGoody Not everyone has the knowledge or the money to do that, so... can you really blaim them when they find they have no options for dealing with these asshats?

Cory Goodman it’s the equivalent of someone getting robbed. Except the robber leaves his home address, driver’s license, and phone number behind, and instead of going to the authorities, they go and bitch to all their friends about how they got robbed.

@Polocatfan talk about shooting the messenger like a total dufus

@Polocatfan talk about shooting the messenger like a total dufus

@Kippykip then take them to court?  If you're not willing to follow through with the law, why would they not use that against you?  UMG is not the only part of the problem; people being unwilling to take legal action is equally to blame.

Is it time consuming, expensive, and a pain in the ass in general?  Sure.  But if it means that much to you, then you should be willing to go the distance.  If you're not, you're willingly submitting to them when they have no legal standing, and thus you are an enabler.  Either stop whining and take the next step, or don't whine because you are just as culpable as they are.

There is recourse.  You not being willing to take that recourse is your problem; not the systems.  The option is there.

It's pathetic that your solution is to bitch in the comments rather than take serious action.  Just as pathetic as it is for UMG to illegally claim videos.

@Polocatfan Problem?  No, he's stating facts.  Just because something is illegal, doesn't mean people don't do it.

Despite how much you state the fair use law and how your meme is transformative, you always get this if it's related to UMG.

Dear Kippykip,

Thank you for your counter notification. Unfortunately, it's unclear to us whether you have a valid reason for filing a counter notification, so we won't be able to honour your request.

Counter notifications are only used when content has been removed as a result of mistake or misidentification, which may include exceptions like fair use. Keep in mind that using this process may result in the claimant filing a lawsuit against you for copyright infringement, so you should evaluate your legal position before filing a counter notification.

@Polocatfan Well YouTube sides with UMG for all creators, dunno what to tell ya.
Same surprisingly happens if you use RWJ's "Doin ya mum" clips for a meme. YouTube won't let me pass my counter-notification no matter what.
It's fucking bullshit.

@Polocatfan just cuz they cant doesnt mean they don't

@Polocatfan just cuz they cant doesnt mean they don't

Doesn't work with UMG though, always gets rejected no matter what.

Doesn't work with UMG though, always gets rejected no matter what.


Fun Fact: The YouTube Copyright Metagame (Part 2) was already uploaded, but it got copyright striked and blocked in all countries.

Update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvFGumd_esg It appears that the original is unblocked now.

Insert the spiderman laughing journalist laugh meme*

twitchtwotch69 glad someone reuploaded it don’t know why they decided to upload the rest of EmpLemon’s videos though

Huh i remember ut being out a week or two after part one

+Sam Ebersman <br>When something gets striked everywhere, it happens instantly. It’s happened to me.

+Sam Ebersman
When something gets striked everywhere, it happens instantly. It’s happened to me.

OMG, imagine if a company copyright-claimed a YouTube video, <b>published by YouTube of course.</b> :)

OMG, imagine if a company copyright-claimed a YouTube video, *published by YouTube of course.* :)

I contributed the 666th like. Okay? Okay.

Guys, its an obvious joke. Cmon. Part 2 just got uploaded 2 hours ago

Qjimbo No. EmpLemon would comment about this.

kind of a stretch, but it wouldnt surprise me if it was true

wow I didt know that you must have been a very luck man

Sad part is I can't tell if this is a joke.


The irony is that "reaction channels" who systematically steal other youtubers entire material are fine with youtube. But there are no alternative

@San dro For revenue and copyright purposes, in the scenario you mentioned (whole thing is in the reaction video), I think the uploader of the video being reacted to should get all of the money.

If fair use occurs (say less than a specifically defined portion of the source material), then the original uploader and reaction channel should negotiate a percentage of revenue for both parties.

That being said, it is definitely unfair that reaction channels don’t really have to deal with the metagame when they are technically bootlegging content with minimal modifications.

@Fries As you might have guessed I was focused on the worst types. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Gde-5FRWA That sadly youtube allows. Reaction in of itself in original content. But like his example of someone showing his entire 18 minutes videos only adding "Shit this is a very long video" is not really what I call fair use. Imo reaction should follow same fairuse as all other content

@San dro I see that argument.

Guess I was under the assumption that people would watch something before watching a reaction to it.

If all they did was watched reaction videos, then yeah, they’d probably not check out the original video (unless it was linked in the description and they clicked on it).

Even so, I would argue that someone’s reaction is technically original content.

@Fries If they react to bits then yes. But many show the entire clip without edit. So why would they watch the original then?

Yes, but they also do something original in the 10% that isn’t stolen.

Moreover, unless it’s a video whose initial upload has been taken down, the reaction is the reason why you’d watch the video.

So I’d say it is, and isn’t stealing. It steals, but the unique reaction is why you’d watch one of those videos.

Not a fan of the genre personally, but that’s how I’d describe it.

@Fries so you agree that over 90% of the sreen is stolen?

Technically their facial reactions are unique, but their content wouldn’t exist without the video they are reacting to being uploaded first.

I wouldn’t call that stealing personally, but I would call that a video genre that is dependent on other uploads.

@Bernie Epstein You mean reaction videos? Might not be as strong as before (dunno) but many of them had millions of views and made lots of money.

I saw a Youtuber who posted every single Wolfenstein song. I even saw someone put all of Toy story 4, but I guess it was allowed since it had a giant border around the movie.

It's because of the human element. A YouTuber has to make a concious decision to strike another YouTuber's video, whereas rights holders don't, because it's all automated for them.


Gaijin, the developers of War Thunder, use to copyright system to remove videos about their game they don't like and are very open about it.
Most recently, a guy did a video about rampant hacking in the community, the video was claimed and removed, and when called out, they said it was policy to remove any content that mentions hacks.
They removed something from a platform they don't own for their own internal policy. Nobody should have that kind of power, but here we are.

@Sam Nuell A dog turd on the street is also free. Wouldn't wanna eat that though.

@Sam Nuell I wouldn't call premo tanks free

@Void of Space and Time but its also free

@Sam Nuell war thunder has a hellish amount of grinding.

@Void of Space and Time still cant reccomend it enough

@Sam Nuell It's probably less obvious than you would think.

I have like 1400 hours I've never seen any blatant hacking

Look no further. Nintendo did the same with switch modding, blocked worldwide. The cause? 1st party game.

See modern vintage gamer for info.

+Don

It's not libel if it's true. There is no legal recourse that allows for info to simply be dropped into the void because someone thought it was rude.

That has nothing to do with a system that's sole purpose is to stop content theft.

but isnt it their right to defend themselves against libel as well?

Corparations are legally people too


That Donald Trump joker video never fails to make me laugh

@The Artisanthe last one was so successful 😂

@tristan i believe in you Tristan! Dont forget me when ninjamonkey2251 remembers you

@ninjamonkey2251 I believe in you, ninjamonkey2251. Just don’t forget me when you get rich

@ninjamonkey2251 that means you'll go down when we all revolt

@Egg Cruncher At least he believes he will get rich, what do you believe you will get? infinite robux?

@F-35 Lightning 2 The world is an angry place

@ninjamonkey2251 If you make the movie. Could you please reply me with a link so I can buy it.

And it came from Trevor Noah of all places

@Egg Cruncher I'm glad you have faith in me.

Say what you will about Trump, it's a super fitting joke for the clip. What he said sounds like something the Joker would say. Trump may not be threatening but I feel like the Joker could say it in a threatening way.

When I get rich I'm hiring Donald trump to act in a Batman parody. (if possible)


You should just copyright claim your own videos before the corporations do then you'll get the revenue

Legit, I saw a video on it. Then you get at least some revenue if it is copyright claimed.

Modern problems require modern solutions.

@Ignat Remizov yup, he made a whole video talking about the system and how it works from both sides.

@Ugly Bastard Seriously? Jogwheel got access? Good for him! He's the one behind Jon's World and Is It a Good Idea to Microwave This and Movie Night, if I recall correctly. I should go watch some more of his stuff again. Thanks for the reminder.

What if we started taking advantage of the playback speed setting, where the video is like - fast enough to bypass copyright, but if the video is on .5 speed we can watch the video in its source form

Reminds me of how Jim Sterling pit multiple companies against each other so none of them could get a cent off his videos.

Staart your own corporation then copyright your own videos genius

@Joe Ç would a captcha on the manual claims do anything ? I know they are not perfect

@Joe Ç Oppenheimer speech are claimed lel<br>And windows 95 slowed startup sound is claimed by somebody else not by microsoft

@Joe Ç Oppenheimer speech are claimed lel
And windows 95 slowed startup sound is claimed by somebody else not by microsoft

Yeah, what are they gonna do? Sue us??

It’s not like they have money! Hahahaha

......

I can't remember who, but I think a Minecraft YouTuber used his other account to claim it, and it worked.

@Joe Ç Oh wow, I feel like I shouldn't be surprised by this, but I still am. So, you're saying that this shady company was hired and given access to UMG's content owner and used a bot to scan videos which they submitted via the manual claim tool? So basically, they're also automating the manual claims as well. I'm glad you're bringing this to light, because it explains a lot about why disputes are typically very time-consuming and why these companies seem to not care about fair use: because they hire other companies to handle this which they shirk the responsibility of and give to robots instead.

@Joe Ç I guess that makes sense, although I do know that UMG, Nintendo and sony probably also  have their own content owners. But yeah, i'm a bit more familiar with the system than most, not because i've personally ever had direct access to it, but because a former friend of mine had a friend who worked for an MCN and did have direct access. Not only is it automated and you're allowed to theoretically monetize anything that gets matched with virtually no consequences, but there's also a manual claiming tool which they can use to literally search for and claim videos.

The sad thing is,this might actually work.

I’m pretty sure once you get claimed so many times your channel gets deleted

Kiwifarm's owner Josh had a tactic where he'd play conflicting copyright stuff from two companies and it seemed to stop either from claiming it...It was fucking hilarious he'd slip two songs in because of that on his streams.

theoretically speaking, if you institute a claim against yourself with a dummy account, and some jackass company tries to claim it, would they not technically be stuck in a copyright deadlock, like what jim sterling uses, in that case?<br>He usually does it by using copyright material enough that it triggers two different claims which neither will budge on, but how does that work if YOU use a dummy to do it?

theoretically speaking, if you institute a claim against yourself with a dummy account, and some jackass company tries to claim it, would they not technically be stuck in a copyright deadlock, like what jim sterling uses, in that case?
He usually does it by using copyright material enough that it triggers two different claims which neither will budge on, but how does that work if YOU use a dummy to do it?

Somebody has actually did this. I don't remember who the guy was, but it was a Minecraft youtuber

@Nolan Kanski Check out TheOriginalAce's video, believe he did that already.

@Nolan Kanski Maybe emp will explain this in part 2, lol.

Now, I truly want to know what would happen if you did this.


There's actually an exception to "Bootlegger".

While it's true that a lot of full episode uploads aren't exactly legal, there are companies who have uploaded full episodes of their shows. In master quality too. Whether it be to thier own channels, or a sister channel for that show. It is hard to tell the difference at times, but it is legal since they DO own the rights.

These channels include WildBrain (LazyTown, The Super Mario Bros. Super Show, Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Johnny Test), TreehouseTV (Little Bear, Franklin, Max and Ruby, Rolie Polie Olie), and of course, channels like Sesame Street and Peppa Pig.

If you ask me, I'd put that somewhere between "Mr. Clean" and "Cold Turkey". While they don't get taken down because of Content ID (they rarely get taken down at all), what usually happens is that the people running the channel block them in certain countries because the distribution rights holder for that country suddenly decided to change thier minds. And it isn't illegal at all because, once again, they own the rights.

It should be Mr. Clean, with the one exception being that it could be blocked in some territories depending on rights.

That's not Bootlegging by default. That is the property they created. It's Mr Clean.

That’s a valid category on the spectrum. You could call it the rights holder uploading it where they can.

I’d also argue that there is a third variant of the bootlegger called the “abandonware bootlegger”.

This is not to imply that uploading an obscure piece of media is any more legal than a well known one, but there is one thing I would argue:

If what you are bootlegging is old enough (say at least a decade old), and is something that doesn’t really have any commercial viability anymore, then the odds of it staying up increase because the company behind it is less likely to be relying on that content as a significant source of revenue.

He gave the example of Family Guy funny moments compilations. That would be a “Material Bootleg” if you will because that is a fairly well known program (and in particular one that is still in production).

If every single Family Guy episode ever produced was uploaded to this site for free, then the companies that syndicate its reruns would probably lose out on significant revenue.

Take for example MatchGameProductions.

A YouTube channel that uploads complete, full episodes of Match Game (the 70’s run, the 1990-91 version and currently the Match Game Hollywood Squares Hour from 1983-84).

All older versions of a game show, the 70’s and early 80’s versions are reran on television right now, but might not be popular enough for a company to rely on them for significant revenue, and in the case of the 1990 version, it hasn’t been reran on television in 15+ years.

In spite of all the copyrighted material, that channel continues to feature daily uploads after nine years I believe.

Do you think the obscurity of the bootleg impacts the likelihood of it getting taken down?

Shit. Had no idea I could re-watch max and ruby for free.<br>I'm gonna be right back.

Shit. Had no idea I could re-watch max and ruby for free.
I'm gonna be right back.

you aren't talking about the company's host distributor in that country because it's stupid to even think that company's host going to have more control over rights then the parent company, Then doesn't the distribution rights holder also holds the rights of the show in their country?!!! And also if the owner(who wants to upload the show globally) has just the rights of their show in USA and not copyrighted the material in any other countries or top on that sold it's copyright to other country's distribution rights holder, like an idiot then it doesn't make the company guilty who sold their rights and now wanna have full control over that material....


I personally like one of Jim Sterling's tactics, where he throws in as much assorted footage as possible and just lets the multiple different claimants duke it out.

Sterling made their own Hunger Games
The Corpo Games!
XD
(I love every Sterling Character!)


Person: breathes

Youtube: did you just breathe the air that those trees made?

Youtube: now ALL the money you earn belongs to the trees

@fluteboystump 1 No, the tree would claim it.

NO BREATHING IN MY PLATFORM! THATS RIGHT! YOU HOLD IT OR YOU DIE !

NO BREATHING IN MY PLATFORM! THATS RIGHT! YOU HOLD IT OR YOU *_DIE_* !

I'm sorry, but breathing is now copyrighted, and you have to pay 1 trillion dollars to breathe.

WHY ARE THESE FOOLS STILL BREATHING MY AIR?

You breathed the air that came from the trees that grew in the soil that we were planning to dig up to pave paradise and put up a parking lot.


“The cold turkey is very similar to Mr. Clean”<br>Out of context, this quote is unintentionally hilarious.

“The cold turkey is very similar to Mr. Clean”
Out of context, this quote is unintentionally hilarious.


We migrated to YouTube to escape from the overreaching TV corporations

Yet they still found a way back

We migrated to YouTube to escape from the overreaching TV corporations

Yet they *still* found a way back

@Vallis Daemonum it'll only be a haven until it gets big. Thats what happens. Corporations are those guys you don't invite to parties or let them in on the joke. Cause you know if they get it they'll ruin it. Happened with YouTube and the internet as a whole. Corporations are slowly pushing us off a cliff, inch by inch. Eventually unless we stop corporatism we will run out of cliff and plummet into a deep abiss

That's what happens when you let them pay all the money that runs this site via ads

"You could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? Back to me."

@Kodeb8 Socialism will fix this by violently murdering a bunch of people, presumably many of them will be overreaching TV corporations. After that we can tear down socialism and replace it with capitalism again. Think of it like a detox, only more effective.

Of course, youtube for a time was becoming bigger than TV and the news outlets started to become second hand as people would get the news which matched their opinion from their chosen youtube personality or channel. The whole "Adpocalypse" horseshit had nothing to do with protecting the integrity of brands. It was about protecting money and social control. It's horrifying how easy people are controlled.

@OneManTyranny Yeah, Vlare has a much better "Search Engine", and atleast has 720p HD Quality. So, the videos are watchable.

Мбн Цринге Бох

Ecrivon Lunyx lol It seems like you angered some folks here by pointing out the elephant in the room.

RedMatter Well copyright is but a way to protect a form of private property that is 'intellectual'. Copyright law, something pushed by large corporations, is a completely capitalist invention just as lawful protection of the private ownership of any other means of production is, i.e. the protection of private property.

@Ecrivon Lunyx ik you people just LOVE that saying but how about you delete that reply sport. It doesn't work here.

@Extra Crispy That's what happens when you put a Susan in charge

@Principleship Coleoid in a world without copyright, youtube would have a whole lot more to gain by allowing people to just post copyrighted material for free than anything else. As the video stated, the site was literally built off of the demand for it to some degree. If the businesses are paying youtube millions or billions of dollars, then maybe they might fold, otherwise however they won't since they would have a lot more to gain by simply ignoring them.

@Extra Crispy it won't. Media would just find a way to defend themself. For exapmle internet providers would probably get paid some for straight up blocking infringing notoriusly sites. Copyright Horders would have somewhat harder times I guess.

Ever heard of a site called Vlare? It's a great alternative.

@Owl TeaGames I know! And yeah, bitchute is great. It's a completely uncensored youtube (aside from porn and illegal stuff) Video creators can get payed through a donation button. And like I said, there are many sizable youtubers who upload there too as a backup site. In my opinion though, youtubers should give a bigger reason to go there, such as making bitchute exclusive videos or something. If bitchute succeeds in being a true competitor to youtube and a threat to youtube's relevance, then either youtube is forced to improve their website, or we all just move to bitchute. The only real downside I can see to bitchute is the fact that extremely alt-right white nationalists make videos there. I don't have a problem with those people expressing themselves (even if I don't agree with them), but I can see how that could damage bitchute's image with the general audience, and might be a turnoff for big youtubers wanting to migrate. On the other hand, the fact that they allow such content is proof that they aren't biased towards censoring anyone, which might be a good thing for some youtubers.

@Vallis Daemonum Yeah, no. Bitchute is trash in every way imaginable. Poor video quality, tons of misinformation and sensationalism, garbage search engine. Just forget it.

YouTube became the thing that it wanted to stop.

I'm just hoping when the next thing is coming

@Kodeb8 Talk about bitchute more. I literally have never heard of it. The internet is a big place, and not everybody has had enough time to find the good shit! If you find something awesome, make a video, and leave comments like this! I'll check it out right now.

@Ecrivon Lunyx a capitalist system would entail there being zero regulation. Copyright - an invention of regulation - is the problem, so thus this has little to do with capitalism and a whole lot to do with crappy regulations. Ironically a completely capitalist system would look like youtube prior to the creation of the copy ID system.

@Gary Oak there is no little guy anymore

@Ecrivon Lunyx <br>And socialism will somehow fix this? I also blame us for continuing to deal with youtube's bullshit. We have alternatives. Bitchute is a really good website being supported by very big youtubers yet people still refuse to migrate.

@Ecrivon Lunyx
And socialism will somehow fix this? I also blame us for continuing to deal with youtube's bullshit. We have alternatives. Bitchute is a really good website being supported by very big youtubers yet people still refuse to migrate.


"this video is blocked in 248 countries"

Well jokes on you I live on the moon take that UMG!

I also live on the moon, and I can confirm it's only been blocked on Earth, but we can watch it here on the moon.

Alexey Saranchev I could be completely incorrect but I heard from somewhere a really long time ago that America partially owns the moon, I don’t remember where but I do for sure remember it was a very credible source

UMG does not believe that the Moon is the common treasure of mankind. It owns many, many pieces of music about it. As such, it holds the copyright of the Moon.

Jokes on you, i live in another dimension

HA
I Live In Another Galaxy And A Different Dimension!

*HA*
I Live In Another Galaxy *And* A Different Dimension!

well screw myself too, I also live far away from the moon, mars


I hope in part two you bring up Jim Sterling and how he created a "copyright deadlock" on his videos so basically none of the claiming companies get any revenue

@Lilaniloxi in short, he used copyrighted material from both companies which usually take the revenue and companies which prevent you from getting any revenue.

Yeah, that's a clear metagame response to the situation.


I know I am super late to this video, but as someone studying media production... yep, once attended a seminar on copyright for extra credit, was met with a discussion on claiming people using your content on YouTube. From everyone in my class to you all, we are  about as soulless as you think we are because the industry beats the desire to care out of you.

In all seriousness, this is why I changed my mind away from working in film and tv, to radio.


Emplemon: "you don't have to respect the bootlegers."<br>Me: "ALL HAIL THE BOOTLEGGERS!!!"

Emplemon: "you don't have to respect the bootlegers."
Me: "ALL HAIL THE BOOTLEGGERS!!!"


Fact: I stopped doing YTPs in 2013 because one of my King of the Hill parodies was flagged a dozen times, and even caused my account to receive a copyright strike, which hindered my ability to upload newer videos at the time. Also, a friend of mine who's an indie horror filmmaker once uploaded a short film he made which had a 100% original soundtrack that was composed by another friend of ours. His video got automatically copyright claimed by some EDM artist in Japan, because one of the notes in my friend's soundtrack sounded similar to the same synthesizer used in the Japanese channel's song. Thus, they put ads on his video and gave all of the revenue to the EDM musician in Japan.

@Void of Space and Time well, you need poor farmers from the 3rd world to get you cheap rice.

MeatballBagel upload them on bitchute and link to them from YouTube using the announcement feature then, there’s nothing stopping you from breaking free of j℮wtubes chains.

This is why globalisation doesnt always work.

@Definitely Not Joeds i commented before that, sorey

@Lazys The dank engineer [BACK] if you watched the same video i did it even explains how suing somebody is so much more expensive and you's end up losing more money in the proscess, especially considering that they aren't even in the same country as you.

It has become increasingly difficult to make YTPs of content that I want to use because of this exact reason. Sure I could use some obscure video from 1997 that 3 people have seen and has no copywrite but what's the point? I would love to make more YTPs but more often than not they get flagged for a few seconds of some bullshit. Then most appeals get denied because they don't give a FUCK.

YTPs are an art form, and youtube is killing them.

@average fan enjoyer Do your own research? Just a thought.

From what ive heard, youtube's copyright system is more the fault of them having to rigidly follow the DMCA, rather than from youtube's own choice. From the way the US copyright system is made and since youtube is an american company, there's very little they can do when a video is claimed, they pretty much have to follow the claimant's request. Youtube has to do this or face legal wrath.

Could someone research this for me? I dont even know, and wikipedia is written too hard for me to understand it

One of my original pieces (a classical piece) got copyright claimed by some psychadelic band from the 60s for having a literal second of something that didnt even sound similar.

What a fucking joke this place is at least they are monetizing everything they can even though they are making a ton of money

@Dv2 It varies, honestly. I'd the say the majority of my chiptune songs are completely 8-bit with no additional synthesizers or instruments. Most of my chiptune covers never got claimed, but a few did: "Black Hole Sun" by Soundgarden, "Dogs" by Pink Floyd, and "Heart Shaped Box" by Nirvana all got claimed and my ad revenue was funneled to their record companies. I also got my chiptune cover of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" claimed by Disney, but I filed an appeal to prove that the song was actually a public domain classical music song, and not the specific song from Fantasia.

@Baron Julius von Brunk How different are they in terms of composition? I've done chiptune covers that get claimed no matter how different the instruments sound, it just detects the song structure instead, I think.

@Yudron Micros What I've been doing is using FL Studio to make chiptune remixes of preexisting songs – current music and classical – blended together with orchestra instruments. For example, my Nintendo Mosaic Deconstruction video has a long song that's a remix of classic NES songs mixed with classical instrument synthesizers.


Youtuber: literally just has a blurry copyrighted poster in the background that appears for less than 2 nanoseconds

Youtube: Your fool driven life has stopped at this point, we are not sorry

Youtuber: _literally just has a blurry copyrighted poster in the background that appears for less than 2 nanoseconds_

Youtube: *Your fool driven life has stopped at this point, we are **_not_** sorry*


Thank God we have people like you to explain this to us.<br>Thx Lemon.

Thank God we have people like you to explain this to us.
Thx Lemon.


I’d like to appreciate the early YTP creators, you’re the key factor of why memes exist and why I like memes at all.


I guess you can say that the copyright system is going on a

DOWNWARD SPIRAL

I guess you can say that the copyright system is going on a

*DOWNWARD SPIRAL*


Waaaaay back in the day, like no more than a year into YouTube's existence, I decided to upload my favorite clip from Late Night with Conan O'Brien. I didn't know anything about copyright laws and was under the impression anything was fair game. I ripped the clip from a file sharing website and very proudly uploaded it. 24 hours later I didn't just receive a copyright strike from YouTube,  I received a cease and desist type email from NBC Universal threatening me with legal action. It scared the crap out of a young me and I immediately deleted the video.


hey Emp, I’ve been a fan since the old YTP days and I just want to say your content has taken an amazing turn. I’m way more excited for new YouTube geographics and rant stuff, it’s much more interesting. What’s important though is that you have fun making the stuff you’re making, not curving your videos to appeal to masses, and I really respect that from any kind of YouTuber nowadays.<br>thank you, for extremely good content.

hey Emp, I’ve been a fan since the old YTP days and I just want to say your content has taken an amazing turn. I’m way more excited for new YouTube geographics and rant stuff, it’s much more interesting. What’s important though is that you have fun making the stuff you’re making, not curving your videos to appeal to masses, and I really respect that from any kind of YouTuber nowadays.
thank you, for extremely good content.


I give this a lot of thought being that I love Nintendo and use copyrighted stuff all the time.

I made a fan edit of someone's bird and it was a positive video made as a gift. People that were obviously viewing the original bird video the clips were taken of from Facebook just came by and called me a theif and I talked about both fair use and the fifth factor transformative use. To no avail, why I think debating the topic with minion loving facebookers will bring about any intelligent discussion is failure on my part lol

Anyhow, I hope you cover fifth factor transformative use in the next video because it's one of the most important additions to fair use law for us that live on the gray area.


You explaining in great detail exactly how the Copyright system is terrible is the most gratifying thing in the universe. Love ya EmpLemon.

What we really need is an explicit definition of determining if something still has commercial viability.


"The YouTube COPPA Metagame," coming in 2020


It doesn't feel like it's only been since September. I can't wait much longer for your part 2!


Bless your soul mate, I wish I had the audience and energy to go through the effort of making videos like these


I have rewatched this series of videos more times than i would like to count. This trilogy of videos is just fucking amazing.


I'm sorry your video includes the word "the", which is copyrighted by UMG

“Latte” is copyrighted by All Foods incorporated.

It’s from cyberpunk if you don’t know

im sorry but your comment includes "the", wich is a word copyrighted by UMG

I'm sorry, but your comment also contains the forbidden word. We're suing you for $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

Imagine if        word "the" was ©.<br> It's        most used word in          English language.

Imagine if        word "the" was ©.
 It's        most used word in          English language.

This comment has been copyright claimed by DIO

I'm sorry, but your video contains the words "Cinco de Mayo" which is copyrighted by the Walt Disney Company.

fettucini <br>Your reply contains “police”. This word has been claimed by BeSt. (Beanstalk)

fettucini
Your reply contains “police”. This word has been claimed by BeSt. (Beanstalk)

Yo r comment contains the twenty-first letter of the alphabet, which is c rrently copyrighted by L b L b!

Have a nice day.

Every single letter in your sentence is owned by a music company or movie company. You are going to jail for repeated acts of copyright infringement!

Bruh, why are you in like half the videos I watch?

so does your sentence, it's gonna get claimed

This is like the Fine bros debacle all over again

@Epic Despacito Gamer <b>THE</b> Ohio State University tried to copyright "the" unironically recently.  But, osu! is even scarier.

@Epic Despacito Gamer *THE* Ohio State University tried to copyright "the" unironically recently.  But, osu! is even scarier.

@Evan Gorsuch The university OSU or the game osu!

ThomasTurner69 the u in umg music should stand for unfunctional not universal

At least he didn't used the words "downward spiral" which belongs to EmperorLemon


Reactors: <b>Laughs in bland content</b>

@Roaxial they wouldn't nod, they would groan while wating their cereal.

They wouldn't laugh, they would just nod


Coming back to this series after awhile; always impressed by the research and scripting you do Emp. Love your downward spirals, hope you feel it's worth it !


I poured hundreds of hours into making a 3 part documentary about Pride Fighting Championships, only to have Part 2 get blocked 4 months and 100k views AFTER it had been uploaded. The appeal system is ridiculous. If the UFC took my video down, how in the hell is appealing to them to reinstate it going to work? No one was watching an hour long documentary as a way to circumvent paying the UFC money to watch an 8 minute long fight, the video was 100% in the category of fair use and transformative, but as long as the copyright holders are the people who decide whether or not a video stays up, creators who use copyrighted works stand ZERO chance of getting their stuff unblocked


Man, that old school YT logo makes me so nostalgic. Back when you could watch entire cam rips of films that were STILL IN THEATRES just broken into a couple of separate parts. Goooood times.


Good insight however I do not appreciate your venomous slandering of the ABSOLUTE MASTERPIECE that is 009 Sound System - Dreamscape

Hadn’t heard of that until this video.

Cool song

They also did the masterpiece that is Trinity.

I didn't expect seeing Triple-Q around here

This post was made by 009 Sound System gang


And this is one of the reasons why I'm glad to be a composer: it's really damn hard to claim original music


Random claims on videos for smaller channels are scary. Going through the appeal process for fair use work is ridiculous


The viddoe style is so freakin creative! Like im madly impressed n inspired!! Much love and respect, and very appreciated info!
#downwardspiral


I legit love all of your sponsored segments; they're always fun!


It'll be interesting to see how this situation evolves. It's definitely a problem that rights-holders claim videos for instances of fair use... but then there are also channels like yours that just indiscriminately use anyone's music they feel like for background ambiance, completely abusing fair use yourself.


This is my third time watching this, but the first time actually taking it in now that I've started to make videos. Thanks for the tutorial Emp!


Some of your finest work here, Lemon Daddy.

Now give me the part 2 I deserve.

Some of your finest work here, Lemon Daddy.

Now give me the part 2 *I deserve.*


I realize now what i find so appealing about your channel. The well versed and informed content that you do. It took me a while but it had finally hit me, theres another youtuber who does archives for speedrunning world records, Summoning Salt, his videos are like documentaries the way he formats them. While i was watching your Dale Earnhardt video you had used the same musical transition he does for most of his videos and it clicked. (around the 25 minute mark if anyone cares)  tl;dr Thank you for producing higher quality content thats well researched and versed.


dude i love your channel. Whether it is ytp or complaining or ranting its always the best content


Your usage of "Good Lord, what is happening in the there?" at the beginning is probably one of the best edits I've ever seen.


I would love to see how much someone can get a video claimed by as many companies as possible.


The Jim Sterling "copyright deadlock" is one of my favorite ways to fuck with companies.


Talking about Copyright and using Nintendo music.

Bold.

I snort Jojo like crack and even I know that wasn't Melone, he doesn't look anything like that

@ziodyne44 I think Nintendo has always been lenient with the actual usage of music in their videos, especially ones ripped from Smash (whether it be because they're more accessible or because they're special remixes made for a single game series), but has wanted to crack down on the outright uploading of the full content (i.e: extended music rips). I remember being surprised back in 2014ish that videos I was watching used Smash Bros. Brawl music and stayed unmuted and untouched probably to this day while similar videos that used a single song from Halo would have the whole thing muted or taken down almost immediately.

I mean, Nintendo's a fascinating case with copyright claiming on YouTube in general given they were pretty slow to adopt the idea that lets players are more beneficial to their business than one would assume. Sometimes it just feels like they aren't entirely sure how the system they've been given works and isn't able or willing to exploit it as much as the music corporations are.

Oh and for sauce for the pfp, go on gelbooru and type in "rainbow_mika blanka" and it should be in the first line of results

@IspamObjection
first, what is the original photo of your pfp?

second, what emp did was a bold move indeed. keep in mind, nintendo copystriked several youtube channels that uploaded extensions of their songs. although, i think they have been more calmer when it comes to copystriking people these days, idk

@Taser Tag Evolution of Fugo:
Manga: Strawberry
EoH: Swiss cheese
Anime: Moldy swiss cheese

@Meek Someone called for strawberries? Yeah, they went mouldy.

@Taser Tag "Ngl not all the colour palettes in JJBA can be considered canonically correct, so I've seen characters in quite a few shades now."
cough cough PANACOTTA FUGO cough cough

@Taser Tag "Ngl not all the colour palettes in JJBA can be considered canonically correct, so I've seen characters in quite a few shades now."
*cough cough* PANACOTTA FUGO *cough cough*

IspamObjection I read "R.Mika" as Etika lawl

wew lads tbh HI WEW NICE TO SEE YOU HERE

@funni n original I don't remember melone wearing a blue mask

@hardlybreathe We don't talk about real life ahegao here.

This part of comment section has been successfully derailed.

I guess Im pretty much used to people using ahegao dp cause thats pretty much nothing to make a fuss about

Atleast its not a real life ahegao cause thats shit is just awful to look at

He used Karn Evil 9 for a good few transitions, much safer than using in the court of the crimson king

Lowest common denominator jojo fans don't even know the quality of R. Mika smh.

Oh yeah I am aware of that,  morioh yellow sky was the first thing I could think of when it came to very apprant examples of colour and not giving a shit in JJBA.

@IspamObjection That's all of part 4 you're talking about. I mean, Giorno's outfit is canonically both blue and pink. I don't mean he switches between them, I don't mean it's a two-colored outfit, I just mean it's either consistently pink or consistently blue. But not both at the same time.

In JoJo, color isn't real.

It's Blanka, shes getting electrocuted at the same time.

Understandable, shits real in JJBA when the sky turns yellow.

@Kid Buu Thanks a bunch. I haven't played Street Fighter much lately.

Ngl not all the colour palettes in JJBA can be considered canonically correct, so I've seen characters in quite a few shades now.

Taser Tag Malone’s mask is purple, That’s Rainbow Mika from Street Fighter.

Because it's actually R.Mika from Street Fighter.

Why in the flying fuck did you choose Melone for the ahegao pic when you could have choosen Trish or Speedwagon

@Your Neighborhood Memelord I'd say a good chunk of it is comprised of spammers of the "Kono Dio da!" and "Muda × some large number" lines, but there's still a small faction that knows their way around some of the smarter memes, most of which come from areas that haven't been animated yet. (Think Parts 6-8.)

@Your Neighborhood Memelord Minor Jojos' Bizzare Adventure spoilers ahead.

That's a minor antagonist from Part 5, Golden Wind.

Please don't tell me that's Melone ahegao.


I once uploaded a four hour movie made by myself. In a five second scene someone sang the first line of the hymn of the 101st airborne military unit. It is not even copyrighted. Bamm, got blocked.


You know what I want to know?<br>Do YouTube sponsors actually look at the ads people put out for them and review those? Because if so then Emp should get more of a cut for that NordVPN one.

You know what I want to know?
Do YouTube sponsors actually look at the ads people put out for them and review those? Because if so then Emp should get more of a cut for that NordVPN one.


The worst part about this is that it seems so easy to fix. In the 'claim screen' (not a creator, clearly), you can see what percentage of a video contains copyrighted content. YouTube could just make it so companies can only claim monetisation, removal, etc, if that percentage is over a certain number, and that number would be affected by the genre a video is put into, eg. Gaming: 15%, Movies/Film/Review/Music: 45%, Education: 30%, ect. This way, if the claimant wanted to claim anything below that number, they would be the ones who would have to file an appeal with YouTube to claim the video. To make the system slightly more balanced to prevent bootleggers from having the material being 30% and then something else for the other 70%, copyright holders can manually review videos that are under the percentage limit, and file a more specialised appeal that is processed quicker/with higher priority to have the video removed. <br>There are probably flaws with this system but it would surely provide a more even balance of power between creators, copyright holders, and the YouTube corporation, and the extra effort needed to demonetise or remove videos would hopefully discourage corporations from abusing the system as much while protecting Fair Use.

The worst part about this is that it seems so easy to fix. In the 'claim screen' (not a creator, clearly), you can see what percentage of a video contains copyrighted content. YouTube could just make it so companies can only claim monetisation, removal, etc, if that percentage is over a certain number, and that number would be affected by the genre a video is put into, eg. Gaming: 15%, Movies/Film/Review/Music: 45%, Education: 30%, ect. This way, if the claimant wanted to claim anything below that number, they would be the ones who would have to file an appeal with YouTube to claim the video. To make the system slightly more balanced to prevent bootleggers from having the material being 30% and then something else for the other 70%, copyright holders can manually review videos that are under the percentage limit, and file a more specialised appeal that is processed quicker/with higher priority to have the video removed.
There are probably flaws with this system but it would surely provide a more even balance of power between creators, copyright holders, and the YouTube corporation, and the extra effort needed to demonetise or remove videos would hopefully discourage corporations from abusing the system as much while protecting Fair Use.


I wish we could find a way to fix this scenario. I wish we could stop the revenue claiming maybe by having the claim having to go through a jury of sorts.


2019 Youtube Rewind:
this video is currently unavailable due to copyright claims.
yep. that sums up the year pretty well.

2019 Youtube Rewind:
this video is currently unavailable due to copyright claims.
*yep. that sums up the year pretty well.*


Man this video is just incredible, probably your most creative idea for a series I’ve ever seen.


Great content as usual. I really think YouTube is dying because they are slowly pushing creators down, while propping up companies. I hope a new medium comes our way where we don't have to worry about being throttled, or copyright striked. Keep it up.


Emp has done it again.. he has lost it completely with yet another good video, glad to continue watching his meme like persona


I would love to see a load of smaller youtubers band together and instigate a class action lawsuit over the Content ID system. Because it's clear the system is not upholding the idea of fair use.


The story arc has finally come to its resolution.

NOW we know why the Simpsons are green

He already explained that in his podcast tho

It seems we may never truly know the answer to why the simpsons are green.

But why is the DOWNWARD SPIRAL green?

@jsweeney7359 Big oof, he was trolling you realize...?

@Cargo guessing it's to fool copyright claimers

but he already explained why they are green


I really like your videos because you have so much nuance. You actually inform people on every stance of your topic. There is such a flood of "This is the BEST/WORST thing ever" that its fresh to just speak objectively and tell me both the good AND the bad.


I'm really enjoying these more comprehensive videos of yours. also that We Are Happy Landfill sample around 13:27 made my day. I love that song. Anyway keep up the good work.


I' amazed that paying to secure the rights is never, ever discussed as an option in videos like these.


"We'll dwell into it in part 2"

Inb4 YouTube creates a system that can find copyrighted materials through simple filters like color changes


Remember the time a guy uploaded hours worth of white noise, and got a copyright claim?

Yeah...
That pretty much sums it up.

EDIT: My mistake. It was 5 claims.

@CODMarioWarfare  PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO DO THIS, IT’S FOR THE MEMES

If it wasn't claimed by Simon & Garfunkel's label I'll be disappointed.

@CODMarioWarfare can confirm. Found archives of several newspapers, one dating back to 1930 communist propaganda

When you feed literal random noise into a program designed to find patterns, it tends to produce spurious outputs yeah.

There were examples of gibberish being typed into Google translate and things like news articles being output.

<b>Give Me Evidence Of It, Please, I Want To See Evidence</b>

*Give Me Evidence Of It, Please, I Want To See Evidence*

@indeepj
Yeah... I'm serious.
It was actually covered on the news, too.

It got copyrighted by me since I invented silence


Emp I gotta be real with you
If you make that episode 2, YT will use it against you and others
(great video though, I loved the Internet Historian mention)


I like how you put as much copyrighted stuff in this video as possible


Alternative Title: There will Never Ever be a good copyright system on YouTube


I'm really curious on why the hue shift tricks the Content ID bots, I mean, isn't it as easy as just desaturating the victim video and comparing it to a desaturated version of the source material?


Youtube is basically a feudal system, except at least in feudal societies the peasants usually received military protection for their work.

@SugaryHull first have to rise up artists and labels which work ( music, , movies) are illegaly uploaded on YouTube. Copyright was long long time before YouTube so copyright was here first. You all just think you can do whatever you Want , steal others property. Its not communism or soviet state . Its civilised world where ones property is ones property, not everyones. So yeah rose up and go on strike that you cant use others property anymore😂😂😂 feel free.

“The slave of the past have food and shelter because their master have interest in a somewhat functional workforce, the today working class don’t have this” Karl Marx


I just wanna say, your music taste is pretty solid. The meme theory video introduced me to both When The Levee Breaks and The Gates of Delirium, and two years on, seeing Karn Evil 9 here only confirmed my suspicions


16:07 There clearly should be a penalty for careless or fraudulent claimants abusing the system.  After a specific number of false claims, the professed "copyright owners" ability to initiate revenue claims should first be suspended until they submit a detailed plan of action explaining why the false claims occurred and  how they intend to improve their policies.  Then, if it happens again, the company should be banned from YouTube immediately and indefinitely.  If creator's have a duty of care to ensure that the material they;re using has either been cleared by its copyright owner or is permissible under fair use, then these companies should be held equally responsible for confirming that the material they are claiming ownership of is genuinely theirs to monetize BEFORE filing the claim.


At least they can't claim revenue anymore. Thanks YouTube! The only good thing they've done.


Would the part 2 of this video actually expose all the tricks YouTube's use to sneak around the copyright system?


YouTube has betrayed what made it the most successful site in the world. It's users.

@Daniel Bojkovski well maybe not in the sense of monetary success, but the concept of it becoming such a popular platform.

Youtube barely breaks even for Google. It has to scrape as much money from the bottom of the barrel as it can.


I cant believe in 2022 we are still talking about fair use on youtube.


Emp, I see you use lots of STAR_’s  old thumbnails. I think a lot of the old disenfranchised tf2 fans would love a video on stars rise and fall. As you referenced in a previous video. It would mean lots


I immediately stepped into No Man's Land and decided that I was going to use my channel and YouTube as a full time hobby, and not a full time job on my first edited video. I do not regret my decision, for I am happy and satisfied by my newer content I am working on so far.


Say it louder for the people in the back!

Seriously, though, this copywrong abuse is absolute B.S. Can't wait for Part 2!


as a content creator, legit can't wait to see part 2.

As an amateur blender user this frightens me I just want to make my blender Creations in peace! Dammit!


A youtuber: breathes

UMG: copyright strikes

A youtuber: *breathes*

UMG: *copyright strikes*


Emperor Lemon should be the new CEO of Youtube. I'm certain he would make it at least 20 times better for creators than it is currently.


I'm almost tempted just to wait until part 2 comes out


It's funny how youtubers are so quick to say "youtube is shit now" and "they only care about the money", but yet those same people continue to use the shit and of course their videos are monetized.<br>Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

It's funny how youtubers are so quick to say "youtube is shit now" and "they only care about the money", but yet those same people continue to use the shit and of course their videos are monetized.
Sounds like hypocrisy to me.


I have no idea how I'd never encountered your channel before today, but it's a damn travesty. You are good people, and I'm so glad this is my introduction to your work ^_^


Personally I follow the Yahtzee method: just use still images and draw stuff on top, and you're home free!

...Of course my channel is also about one ten thousandth the size of his, but whatever.


Tom Scott followed this up with "YouTube's copyright system isn't broken, the world's is"


You know it's bad when the Minecraft Redstone tuber gets demonetized

@mewnani thanks. I forgot story a little bit.

@Principleship Coleoid No it's even more ridiculous than that. He had a friend compose his intro and outro, and the people that pulled a copyright claim on him based it on the fact that some of the samples used to make the song were copyrighted under them. Not even instruments are safe.

Well, he used parody of a transformed song or something like that... parodies are fair use but not if you are a YouTuber. I think it would be easier if we just started to use CC or some other fair use oriented licences.


I've been dabbling in smuggling recently.<br>Looking forward to the next part.

I've been dabbling in smuggling recently.
Looking forward to the next part.


Everytime I watch an Emp video I get deep seated nostalgia flashbacks to TF2 and it's orange box glory days.


My favourite technique is the one that Jim Sterling used to stop Nintendo from claiming when he used their gameplay. He'd play Chains of Love at the end of the video so that it'd get double claimed and no one company could claim the revenue.


Youtube should just say to copyright holders that they have to prove that someone is affirmatively breaking copyright in order to steal revenue (the point of copyright: to protect revenue on IP), instead of the current system that assumes all use of copyright content is to steal revenue.


Yeah. This is part of why I'm getting into law. They try this, it's gonna hurt them more than it hurts anyone else. Because THAT is the flavor of pain we need to stop this exploitation.


Strangely enough, I've had one of these situations before as an essentialy non existent channel over a steam hams edit before, where fox auto claimed my video even though it was an edit. however for some reason I decided to claim it with a valid reasoning and it got manually overturned by fox, so that was pretty weird.


My friend made a video which got a solid 48 views over the span of 7 months. It got striked by a music company, because of a 8 second audio clip.


Remember when reviewers were getting fucked left and right? While he’s pretty infamous, Mr Enter is a good example, almost all of his negative reviews of FOX shows were struck, but some of his positive reviews of their shows were fine, his negative reviews got struck but his positive reviews were good


YouTube: Broadcast yourself!

Also YouTube: Broadcast yourself and have a big company steal your money or keep the video but take the money!


There needs to be a way to couter-sue for coppyright-claimers that violate fair use!

As If Fair Use Would Be A Concept By Then, But, Yeah


What I think youtube should do for their copyright system is whoever is filling a claim for copyright has to type what there copying give the source and youtube sees if the claim is valid or not <br>My opinion

What I think youtube should do for their copyright system is whoever is filling a claim for copyright has to type what there copying give the source and youtube sees if the claim is valid or not
My opinion


I like the way that Yahtzee does reviews in Zero Punctuation. He has copy-paste characters that he makes slight edits on, and moves them around to describe what the game is about, along with his snarky British humor.


Well, that Nord VPN ad at the end didn't age well at all did it? Still, despite that I look forward to part 2. Hopefully it comes out soon, I know a Youtuber who could use it.


My personal favorite is when a video is claimed by 30+ different companies.

Crazee Lazee tbh it's better that way, they have to share the revenue 30 ways. The less money for these corporate scumbags the better.

@C Porter True but then why didn't the people who composed the modern version of the music flag the video instead of a fake non existent one?

@Otaku Person those songs may have been written & composed 200 years ago,  by the audio in which used and recorded was much more recent.

My favorite is for a song that was made like 200 years ago, its uploaded to youtube and it gets claimed by a non existent company. This happened quite a bit for songs that were featured in Assassin's Creed Black Flag. People uploaded the songs to just enjoy them and non existent companies put claims on them or got the audio for the video removed.

Mine is when I get claimed by a company that doesn't exist, for a song that doesn't exist! Then they go on to remove my video without me even putting it for review


Back in the summer of 2008, my older brother and his friends and I made a video to be uploaded to YouTube. My brothers friend decided to add in the song "Holiday" by Green Day when editing it. At one point, YouTube decided to mute the entire video all because of that one song, but a miracle happened. One day YouTube decided to unmute the video and it's still available to watch! I don't know if my brothers friend did something to unmute it or YouTube did something smart for once, cause his videos were not being monetized.


-Youtube Audio
-2009
-Evanescence
Damn what a time to be alive


I cannot wait for part 2!!!

Personally, I think that the spectrum you introduced, should be something used as a classification method for YouTube videos.

Jared K I think of myself as a sort of “fair user” since I make content that uses material, but not solely the material.


At this point, YouTube is TRYING to make everyone hate the website.

@Mongo Poe Sorry, can't hear you over all the people that keep getting banned and removed by Youtube for "Having the wrong opinions."

@Whiplash Athetos did you not watch this video 🤦🏻♂

What are you talking about. Media companies love them

@Daniel Bojkovski Did you not read what I just wrote? By. Any. Means. NECESSARY! They don't care who gets hit, they don't care how far they have to go. Anything to stop Trump. Also, friendly reminder. If they try to Impeach Trump, which is looking like they're actually going to, it will fail. It'll be shot down by the Republican controlled Senate. You want to see REAL change in the world? Then don't let these monsters have their way.

Whiplash Athetos <br>I dont think youtube censors political content because they have an agenda to push. I think its just that political content is not ad friendly, proven by the fact that left wing and right wing channels both suffer

Whiplash Athetos
I dont think youtube censors political content because they have an agenda to push. I think its just that political content is not ad friendly, proven by the fact that left wing and right wing channels both suffer

what are you talking about hes been doing this since his "YouTube's been on a downward spiral" video

You're half right. It's more that they're more concerned with stopping Trump in 2020. So much so that they WILL burn this platform to the ground. Remember their own words. By. Any. Means. NECESSARY.


Now that we are living in a world were YouTube is letting QuantumTV get away with what he's doing, this video hits significantly harder


Reminds me of the good old days before metacafe uses monetization. There is all sorts of garbage in there and it was fun to surf.


2:30
Wait, was this the actually reason why this song popped up SOOOOOO MUCH in older YouTube videos? Did they need to replace most of the copyrighted song back then with this? 😮


The thing I’d like to thank you for the most is the use of Persona 5 music. Definitely one of the best soundtracks of all time for my favourite RPG.


When life gives you lemons don't make lemonade, make life take the lemons back!

I'm also the 420th like of this comment

You give it a crown and watch it from wherever even if it's on the other side of earth. Unfortunately you need wifi to watch the lemon.

why do you watch my lemons :( watch your own


This guy used Nintendo MKwii music to talk about copyright... you brave man


I've had playlists of old music uploaded from 3rd party youtubers that loved their music. Around half the playlist was claimed, finding them again is impossible due to the niche Trance genre. The original artists don't even upload their music pasts itunes. Set sail to the bay


copyright law covers transformative uses of copyrighted material under the concept of derivative works. While agree to an extent that the interpretation of this concept probably could use some relaxing, it is there for a reason


This is the first I've heard of your channel, but I got mad respect for your usage of the SSBM music. 10/10 choice, chief.


Copyright on YouTube has gotten so awful the last couple of years, and all they care about is removing a check mark for a grey background, which only makes things worse

How to properly clean your metal computer


shoutouts to tom scott for showing that half of what companies are doing is legal despite the fact that the situation is still stupid either way

do keep in mind that i say half because the other half of whats going on is in fact illegal<br>8 SECONDS OF BLACK SILENCE TITLED READ DESCRIPTION GETTING COPYSTRIKED LEGIT HOW

do keep in mind that i say half because the other half of whats going on is in fact illegal
8 SECONDS OF BLACK SILENCE TITLED READ DESCRIPTION GETTING COPYSTRIKED LEGIT HOW


What I find kind of funny is that there are still Youtube uploads featuring full un-edited songs and albums that have been on the site for at least a DECADE.


Excellent work, and the ELP track was a rly nice touch!


My football coach told me something similar to this situation: “EVERYONE HATES US ABD I FREAKING LOVE IT, WE’RE NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR THE REFEREE TO BAIL US OUT.”


YouTube is off its rocker, the copyright nonsense Never ends. It’s never ogre

@Lightning Cayo m8 ur gonna get copystriked

Lightning Cayo Rolling rock! roll and rocker!


Seriously, I remember watching some of your early shit back when I was like in 8th grade. Just shit head poops. Never would I have thought that you'd make some of the best fucking introspectives on a cornucopia of topics that many of us are passionate about. And do it so well. I'm fucking happy.


Can’t wait to see EmpLemon make a vid about YouTubes new ad system.


Dont upload part 2. you'll sell us out. Tell the enemy your tricks, and you seal your fate.<br>Put the blade in the hand of those weaker then you, not those stronger.

Dont upload part 2. you'll sell us out. Tell the enemy your tricks, and you seal your fate.
Put the blade in the hand of those weaker then you, not those stronger.


11:41 "Closest thing to a crime syndicate you can find on YouTube"
Tmartn: Allow me to introduce myself


I still think the beginning minute and a half of this video is both extremely genius and extremely hilarious.


Give this man a TV rant show. great vid mate


As long as you willingly ignore that the copyright law is a negative in essence you deserve what comes your way


Lmfao I lost it at, "WWE can suck a fart out of my ass"

Also, you have to remember, they probably put some mostly uneducated, yet still degree-d, button pusher to just push claim or block and that's their whole job. Which is sad.

But, I would like to point out, that if you were to sue/counter-sue, whatever, at the VERY LEAST, if you could prove Fair Use and that their copyright claim was erroneous, you could at least recoup your legal costs and revenue loss. BUT, if you could prove their claims were negligent (they just made them, didn't watch them, didn't have an actual legal advisor determine they could claim copyright infringement) you could also sue for an amount for damages. IF you could prove their claims were outright MALICIOUS (they have done this to just about every single entry ever on the ContentID list - which you'd have to subpoena to find out) you could sue for a lot more damages, and maybe, if you found the right ambulance chaser (you know the type of lawyer) successfully initiate a class action against them at which point they would likely try to mitigate their damages by blaming YT having a faulty system. So either you get more money than you lost back, and a black mark against said company and/or YT fixes their shit.


youtuber: hums 2 seconds of a song

this channel is no longer available

youtuber: hums 2 seconds of a song

*this channel is no longer available*

@Loonie The Moonie  Thanks for clearing that up. UMG had gone full A-hole mode recently. Several places arebeing copystriked. I still remember how one guy hummed some random tune without knowing what it was and UMG copystriked him. Dear devil, this state of YouTube is worse than ever.

@The Potato Of 42 It was UMG who issued the strike not Deep Purple themselves. I realize now after re-reading  my comment how it could come across like that though. My bad.

@Loonie The Moonie  Deep Purple copystriked Jared? When? How the hell? I've never seen metal bands do that kind of thing!

That actually happened to a youtuber named Jared Dines. He got a copyright strike for humming "Smoke on the Water" by Deep Purple.

@Tomotato Yes. YouTube fair agree. Idiots speak YouTube unfair. Idiots like oldthinkers. Google correct like Minitrue. Google unever uncorrect. Google true, ever.

Youtube: You even hum for 2 seconds, your income goes BYE BYE, therefore leaving you homeless! Yay!

@Daniel Bojkovski Minitrue unallow indicated channel*

@Daniel Bojkovski sounds Orwellian to me.

<b>This channel has been removed by the department of truth</b>

*This channel has been removed by the department of truth*


I will never use YouTube without adblock. If I ever find someone who really deserves my money I'll give it to them directly.


Is no one gonna appreciate how good the edit of putting YouTube on the NES was


I like that you use prog as your background music. It somehow matches the style of your videos


I think it's possible for you to have non copyrighted works in your video, but it BECOMES copyrighted. I remember ages and ages ago using a non copyrighted song for a video and years later i got a claim on it despite youtube suggesting it to me to use.


Friendship ended with WWE<br>Now AEW is my new best friend

Friendship ended with WWE
Now AEW is my new best friend

@Muammar Gibran I can never imagine enjoying WWE with the problems it has going on rn.

@Muammar Gibran I enjoy it for Roode and what they're doing with the Fiend. most of the others on roster are hit or miss for me. You do got some good talent like AJ and Bryan, to give credit where it's due though.

@Charlie Weddle Why not, though. I still enjoy WWE despite all the problems.

@gligurr Now you just want to make me comment even more, thanks bruh

Only on the E for my homie Bobby Roode and Wyatt atm anyway. Everytime I see Seth Rollins or Lynch I want to gouge my eyes out tbh.

A E DUB!
A E DUB!
A E DUB!
A E DUB!
A E DUB!

עידן חסון - דרכים טובות

I also enjoy a little bit of the bubbly!

Agree to you, once I see AEW Double or Nothing, I'm all in !


I uploaded a few covers and an original song to YouTube (as private videos) for an audition. One of the covers was instantly copyright claimed and deemed unmonetizable (but not taken down) and my cover of Superstition and the ORIGINAL SONG THAT I WROTE WITH MY BAND were taken down a few hours later. YouTube didn't provide me with the reason but I didn't violate guidelines so idk


Holy crap, "We are Happy Landfill"? You just got a huge amount of respect from me, dude!


Fantastic use of music on this one man, I instantly recognized every track!

Edit: Especially 19:38 XD


Didn't YouTube announce that they removed the ability for companies to claim a video, but they can still demonetize and remove them?


Can we just boycott youtube? Their pseudo-monopoly is disturbing.

YouTube is already losing money so it wouldn't hurt them just the creators

@Geeeee8 "what's Bitchute?"<br>- The world

It’ll be so easy to do tbh. Just shop local and read a book.

People are too stupid to adopt another video streaming service. OSW Review and Botchamania were hit with copyright strikes relentlessly a few years ago and both moved to Vimeo for a few months. Both had their own websites with links to their content on Vimeo and hardly anyone knew about it. When they finally came back to YouTube everyone was wondering where they went and welcoming them back as if they'd been on a long hiatus from creating content.

Even longtime dedicated fans of content creators are too lazy and stupid to figure out how to move to another platform to continue watching the content of their favorite creators.

@netizen sort of, but no at the same time. The political youtubers that were getting algorithmically throttled began to set up accounts on BitChute, and these channels were mainly on the right. There are some apolitical channels on the site such as Ricky Berwick though. We need more apolitical channels on bitchute for more variety though

@TheVideoGamingChannel Bitchite has sold out too now😭This is some bullshit fr

@TankMcHavoc Productions the thing is, youtube has terrible management and nobody to stop them. Plus, monopolies are very dangerous

Youtube is actually a really good website when it comes to copyright, what we should be boycotting is the US copyright system

@TheLetterL ᨆ that's a nuclear option, and even that won't work, as Emp said in his new YouTube geography video of MattWhatitis, Attacking YouTube's wallet is useless, Since even to this day, We don't know if YouTube is profitable. Google only kept YouTube because of it's influence. So it's just going to hurt creators and nothing else

Tom Hill GUYS, we need something like most famous youtubers who can do this to make content they want to like filthy frank, idubbz or any of those 2016 era type channels, less good image= less companies backing YouTube= less power. But this should be a last resort to punish youtube   After all else fails.

@Mr. Roombastic and plus, You can't really make money off newgrounds, That's the main reason why a lot of animators from newground moved to YouTube

@Faker I don't understand how they've gone this long with no competition.

@Definitely Not Joeds metokur did and now hes the biggest guy on bitchute

i heard there's a raid on youtube on December 6th

i heard there's a raid on youtube on December 6th

@netizen What would help alot is a free market of Video Streaming sites, so its good not to stick with one.

@ChokeCJ Ah, you got me. I was bluffing, but I'd rather not pander to sites that openly promote the likes of Peterson, etc. I would use VidLii, but they don't have much storage, and from what I've gathered is hosted by themselves, which is why they crashed when NFKRZ made a video on them. I honestly haven't done much in terms of research on other sites.

@netizen Suit yourself. What site would you goto?

@netizen Suit yourself. What site would you goto?

@ChokeCJ I'd rather not use a platform that caters to the likes of Watson and Peterson, thank you. There are other sites.

@netizen Yes, so therefore we should avoid it instead of changing it for the better and stay in a platform whose daddy is in bed with the chinese government, and consistently becomes more hateful and hated of and by its creators and non prepubescent audiences.

@Faker Well I'm afraid Newgrounds is the only shot you've got. They're the closest thing You-tube has to any real competition. I guess you could try Mumkey Jones website, but he'd have to host videos other then his own there.

uuum i meant a serious competitor, a more mainstream one, not that i dont know about newgrounds,  but YouTube is full of normies, and only normies can beat normies when it comes to the consumption of media.

what are you going to do?

go to vidlii?

what are you going to do?

go to vidlii?

@Don S. MDT This guy gets it. It's not about money, it's never been about money with corporations. It's about power.

@I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter "The Fuck is LBRY?" <br>- literally The World

@I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter "The Fuck is LBRY?"
- literally The World

@Smart Alec we truly live in the Soviet states of America

@Smart Alec we truly live in the Soviet states of America

@YouTubeUsername 'anti free speech protests' are the stupidest things ever.

Then you start hearing from companies' paid protesters about how they don't value free speech and they want something censored

no, because Google funds them

Youtube, in reality, is losing billions of dollars a year.

@TheVideoGamingChannel bitchute is just a shitty proprietary version of peertube tbh

@Maachen  we dont. Thats like asking, how do we boycott disney.

@Iron Bear this is too true, people always talk about content creators leaving their entire empire and work they have behind from youtube to swap platforms to make youtube change, but nobody is ever going to do it. the difference between youtube and e.g a teachers strike is one is small scaled and can screw over the students and such, and the other is the most popular streaming site online.

@Mr. Roombastic i was asking, "How do we boycott YouTube?" since they'res not any big competitors.

@Maachen  corporations took control. The love of money = corruption. Copyright is a free form of money essentially.

Youtube has 0 streaming competition. Newgrounds would be the only possible competition. But they are more of an indie focused streaming platform

'pseudo'-monopoly?<br>I think you mean just monopoly.

'pseudo'-monopoly?
I think you mean just monopoly.

The more creators move to LBRY, the more pressure we can put on YouTube.

Jeff Bezos better get to expanding twitch to be a direct competitor to youtube


I think it's unfair to call them clowns, in the circus environment clowns are well respected professionals who have spent years perfecting their craft.


your editing is incredible, can't wait for part 2


I have had great success fighting manual copyright claims. They do it hoping you wont fight back but at the end of the day they wont fight your 3 seconds of audio. Viacom is a different story not even YouTube itself will let you fight them


It's really sad seeing all these hardworking people make something so creative, well thought out, and entertaining, and then YouTube comes along and says "hey you! Fuck your dreams, ambitions, and creativity, we own you!"


For the example around 17:45 I think I can provide some insight into why media companies would strike a positive/free-promotion type video, even if only 1min of it is copyright material.

They have to ‘protect’ their intellectual property at every turn. Not doing so weakens their ownership of it. If they found your video but didn’t claim it, it opens the door for more egregious violations in the future.

Say they don’t strike your video, then the next day I upload 2minutes of copyrighted WWE material praising them. Then someone else uploads 5min, then 30min etc.  Where does it stop for WEE?It has nothing to do with free promotion, positive reviews or money, it’s something they have to do to ensure they maintain ownership of ALL their intellectual property (clips, matches, show names, wrestlers, gimmicks, belts, catch phrases etc.) if they implicitly say ‘that EmpLemon video is fine’ then in essence, they are saying ‘we’re okay with some infringement’ and that’s just a can of worms no media company wants to get into.  Your comment about media companies being robotic is actually quite accurate.


Something i think you forget is precedent. if one small time youtuber wins in a case like this every following legal clame become streamlined and the money required to win would become less with every defeat. for exaple if you use 10% of a video for movie reviewing purposes and you win anyone else who does the same will be able to just point at it and say thats what they were doing.


I agree with almost all of the points in the video, but the reason WWE might have blocked your vid is because it sets a precedent for other people to use it, positive or otherwise.


i run a record label, and our uploads have been pretty much always claimed by OUR OWN DISTRIBUTORS, and they still deny the claims


Oh well, the copyright system was, is, and always will be broken, no matter what will happen.

@Fixed Fun Exactly! This dude being telling facts right now.

Copyright will never be fixed.<br>It only changes to various degrees of broken.

Copyright will never be fixed.
It only changes to various degrees of broken.

@pharder1234
Copyright needs to be abolished and STAY abolished.
It was never about artists rights in the first place anyway (it was always a sneaky censorship tool) and at best it only protected the shittiest of publishers who would fuck the artists (that the copyright was supposedly made for) over relentlessly with.
This is also ignoring that copyright (and patents) lets someone who did something decades ago collect money on said work that they've often done no work on since.

Asking when Youtube's copyright system will be fixed is like asking when Brexit will actually happen.

indeed we really need to abolish all of copyright law, and rewrite totally new and more open ways to use artwork


Derry The king because it’s valuable information. You don’t steal that and give it out for free. You sell that shit.

Goopy-Amethyst yeah but no ones data was leaked

@Bobby snoopy Nooperson the third they had a security breach a couple of weeks ago and pretty much the information of everyone who used their service got in the hands of the hacker(s) that made the attack.


A few years ago, I got my entire channel deleted for uploading a 30 second video with a clip of a new Drake song, but the audio was 8 kbps. 8 FUCKING KBPS. Do you know what that sounds like? Thats almost indistinguishable. It was for a stupid meme, and I lost everything. No explanation, just there one day, and then gone the next. No way of recovery, that I knew of. Had almost 1,000 subs after 6 years, and then nothing, gone forever. So yeah, FUCK these music companies and their automated systems.

RIP BunchaFX
2010-2016


Some YouTube:*Uploads Video Praising Some Company*<br>The Company: I’m about to end this whole mans career

Some YouTube:*Uploads Video Praising Some Company*
The Company: I’m about to end this whole mans career


We need to boycott YouTube. At least until they fix their copyright system.


I was introduced to YT by BFDI, tech, and early-Roblox. Still a great series imo


This man is doing the lords work over here.


You know they can just copyright claim literally silence, right? Or stuff that remotely sounds like instruments. They can still claim your 100% original videos.


I can't wait for part 2 but NordVPN is just TOO oversponsored


I've always had this idea when it comes to copyright claims on Youtube.

Couldn't you just make a alt account and copyright claim every video you make when it comes out so you still get paid for it?

copyright claim it? yea, getting a ''copyright deadlock'' where a bunch of ppl fight over the same video and no one gets anything is easy, getting the monetisation means having a claims company registered with youtube

Actually, Given Evidence (Camilia Lost An Episode Of Glitchtale Because Someone Uploaded/Stole It], No You Dont


youtube pooper here: got my most popular video (at the time) taken down due to apparently taking watch time from official mr bean content, despite being only 3 minutes long and consisting mostly of explosions. (it was also completely un-monetised due to my channel size at the time, i was making nothing)


I discovered last week that my twelve second TF2 video has been copyright claimed for using the 'Meet the medic' theme. Not that it bothers me, its just the fact that these people are so desperate for money, they will try and claim a video that has less than ten views.


when i look at my old liked videos and reach ~2014 about 90% are either deleted or private. everything on youtube has been downhill since then. unfortunately their competitors are constantly being taken down as well


I miss youtube being a place where people uploaded for fun instead of for money, and Ads didn't exist


Can I copyright claim YouTube in its entirety and then give it back to the people?

“No one man should have all dat power.” - Kanye West

So you're basically going to be the Robin hood of youtube?

In theory, yes. But you need to have solid fucking proof to back up such a claim.<br>In a lot of cases the defender ( youtube ) will probly stall it out long enough untill you run out of money to pay the lawyer and then you pull out thus ending the case.

In theory, yes. But you need to have solid fucking proof to back up such a claim.
In a lot of cases the defender ( youtube ) will probly stall it out long enough untill you run out of money to pay the lawyer and then you pull out thus ending the case.


I can't believe that we're still talking about fair use in 2021


Ive lost count of how many times Ive actually watched a movie based on me liking random clips on YouTube


5:57 there is no such thing as guaranteed safe. If you wrote and performed a song yourself you can still get matched with some other song and get it taken down or demonetized.


However often even independent 2D animators on YouTube rely on external sound effects for their original content even though they might create their own OST for their original short film animations! Also a lot of channels similar to Kazukrat actually loose money through their videos because of the ad revenue from views not making enough to fully cover the production costs so that’s why they are often dependent on donations and crowd funding through sites like Patron to keep afloat as businesses they can make a living off! :)


I think you missed an important point about copyright and poops;

Posting a full film on YouTube is for people who haven’t seen it yet and taking away a potential audience member.
Poops use the film that a viewer has already seen to poke fun at something. The poop assumes you’ve already seen it, isn’t replacing the film and is being used for something the potential audience member isn’t going to find in the original.

And if it gets popular enough, people will watch the original material just to understand the content .

Yeah ikr<br>Like with these meme song mashups, you'd have to of heard both songs originally otherwise you wouldn't really get anything from the mashup.

Yeah ikr
Like with these meme song mashups, you'd have to of heard both songs originally otherwise you wouldn't really get anything from the mashup.


I'm praying that Youtube will have a better replacement at some point


This video is exceptionally relevant rn. Suzy Lu is the new antagonist, and YouTube her accomplice


When the US morphed in to a corporate oligarchy, copyright went from a shield to protect creators from corporate greed, in to a weapon used by corporations to shut down creators. Because remember folks, corporations hate capitalism because it means they actually have to invest in creativity and put effort in to their work.

Insert Obi-Wan clip saying "Now you have become the very thing you swore to destroy."

When the US morphed in to a corporate oligarchy, copyright went from a shield to protect creators from corporate greed, in to a weapon used by corporations to shut down creators. Because remember folks, corporations hate capitalism because it means they actually have to invest in creativity and put effort in to their work.

_Insert Obi-Wan clip saying "Now you have become the very thing you swore to destroy."_


: How can we stop spam bots impersonating other well established youtubers ?
YouTube: Lets remove all them verification check marks

EDIT: Youtube actually listened for once is now changing back to the old verified check mark. Well guys we did it. This is an epic gamer moment.

They just kicked the can down the road. They'll probably wait a month and de verify everyone without a notification.


Inherently the system isn't bad(it ain't good) it's just inconsistent which makes it bad

Its open for interpretation and the ones with power can enforce their interpretarion of the issue


I tried to use a Beatles song as a medium to display my content, and UMG blocked the video in all countries.


YouTube has to die in order for this to end. It's that simple. There needs to be new competition that just doesn't give a fuck about the corpos


There needs to be a fine for copyright claims which give the creator the lost money and if it’s a company a tax on top of the fine


We gotta find a way so that youtubers can safely copyright claim their own videos and take all ad revenue from their own video. Thats the real metagame


And this is why it's just easier to make money through patreon or merch sales, in turn you give something back while being able to be financially stable


YouTubers: Make a good review about a specific product, telling people why they should buy it, giving money to the company.
Company: s i l e n c e   t h o t

YouTubers: Make a good review about a specific product, telling people why they should buy it, giving money to the company.
Company: *s i l e n c e   t h o t*


*Emp: Talks about copyright abuse.
Also Emp: Uses "Beneath the mask" from Persona.
Every Persona/MegaTen YouTuber: "May Atlus have mercy on your soul."

@Alice Margatroid Not like Atlus remembers that game exists so it should be fine to use.

It does have a banger soundtrack though.


Can someone please start creating other platforms to rival youtube? It doesnt have to be an overnight success. Just survive long enough to grow a presence to give youtube the smallest bit of competition. Thats the literal only way this problem will ever get addressed.


You're one of few YouTubers I can honestly say I can fully watch the videos of without getting bored within a few minutes. I don't even have to care much about the subject in manner because your videos are always highly enjoyable and I look forward to each upload.


Doesnt the broken copyright system have something to do with Youtube wanting to keep Vevo?


Tbh there should be an actual law against infringement of free use. Where if you infringe it, you would need to pay a giant fee


Bit late to this but I have an xp to share.

I used to save/upload music I had produced back while I was in high-school (34 now, like 30ish at the time of all this) and it was a way for me to archive it in case of hardware / data failure. Well one day, I had noticed that one of the tracks had a DMCA strike on it. I filed an appeal as this random guy was claiming that I was stealing his music/IP. I wrote YT back explaining my position, that the music was 10+ years old and that I could prove it by the creation date / file time stamp. They requested the files and such, verified on their own and unlocked the DMCA after sending me a determination letter.

I was honestly shocked at it all but was very thankful that YT sided with me, I now host the music at SoundCloud but regardless, that was sketchy and the guys stuff was like from 2014 when I had produced this stuff as far back as 2002!


17:48 that App state clip. Holy shit! That really got me. You never seize to make me laugh Emp.


Copyrighting music? That's cute.
I got a claim for my fucking exhaust note...
I wish I were lying.

yo bladed I didn't think you'd be the guy to watch this


14:01 that’s actually a Italian dude who lied about his heritage.

And the commercial itself was used for big plastic bottle companies to try and blame us for the plastic bottle problem we have today, and it worked too well.
Edit: spelling mistakes, on mobile sorry


Imagine getting your video blocked in 53 more countries than there are on earth


Had many strikes with claims made on my own voice.


the copyright system has been on a downward spiral and now it's lost it completely

It was never good though.

Then again, this copyright system is what stops YouTube from becoming another CDA PL; an unpopular site with tons of piracy.


You can make a song on a different account, register it to the content ID system, and use it in a video on your main account, then claim your video with your alt account to get monetized without having to appeal to YouTube's age appropriate monetization system.

a shame that has to be done because youtube can't fucking do this shit properly


AND HERE WE ARE IN 2021 TALKING ABOUT FAIR USE - based on the recent REMOVAL of the dislike number AND the like to dislike ratio bar.....FUCK OFF YT!!!


Someone should do a class action lawsuit against YouTube for not respecting Fair Use.


I cant believe in 2021 we are still talking about fair use on youtube.


I have been saying the same opinion about copyright all over YouTube (you probably have seen one of my comments) but i will repeated it for a 54th time, copyright isn't about protecting original authors anymore (or for the last 50 years) is about stealing money and ideas from other similar ideas, censure public opinions and to stably a legal monopoly


I was waiting for you to make an AVGN reference. You can't have all these throwbacks to the glory days in your videos without mentioning James and what he did for the reviewing medium.

I Feel Like The AVGN Reference Might Be In The Start? No Idea


Like your videos man and nice to know you’re a wrestling fan too. That block from the RAW Is War is bs but at least AEW going to be awesome.


Start a petition to fix the internet and save everyone


I spent 2 months on a half hour long The Incredibles YTP, spent ALL DAY uploading the bitch, only for Youtube to tell me fug no at the last second. I can't even upload the type of video this site was once known for!


You’re doing great work, man. Keep it up. Glad we’re stuck with you.


I know that one day, one of these companies are going to fuck up and try to steal from the wrong YouTuber and get sued HARD. But thats just in my dreams


This video's ending is the least sponsored sponsored segment I have ever witnessed.


I had an unlisted video with no sound from drone footage I took as a test, and it got taken down by Sony for copy write. Nothing I could do they just closed the dispute.

Yeah Uh
Everything Is Stolen
Eyesight? Copyrighted
Vehicles? Copyrighted
Devices? Copyrighted
Hearing? Copyrighted
Everything Is Copyrighted