Could the Elements of DISharmony Exist? (Feat. Cannedcream)

I personally think there are no objects that represent them, but one living entity instead. Discord IS the spirit of disharmony. He is also cruel, greedy, deceptive, not exactly loyal, not the good type of laughter, and is for sure fueled with dark magic.

Elements of disharmony wouldn’t be independent instead it would be held together by hatred (if they exist for sure) so basically
Harmony=friends
Disharmony=enemies

Maud Pie wouldn't really be the element of gloom, she just shows joy in a different way

Without Disharmony there would be no such thing as harmony

(Just as, “without dark there would be no light”)

Cozyglow would be betrayal, actually...

If the young 6 have elemental powers these would be their powers

Sandbar : Ice
Smolder : Fire
Silverstream : Hydro
Gallus : Lightning
Yona : Earth
Ocellus : Energy

I have an idea
Trixie had the alicorn amulet
Rarity got a book of spells.
The dazzling have the crystal necklaces.
The other two are missing or were destroyed.

NightmareMoon- Treachery
Master Discord -Insanity
Queen Chrysalis-Deception
King Sombra- Cruelty
Lord Tirek -Greed
Starlight Glimmer - Magic of Isolation

You know, in Season 2, The return of harmony part 1 and 2, Discord turns the main 6 into pretty much the opposite of themselves. What if the elements of disharmony are the main 6, but they just choose to show the harmony part of themselves. I haven't put much thought into this, it's just what I think goes with the vid. 😊

Basically the elements of harmony are the elements of disharmony. It just depends on how you use them.

There's the Elements of Insanity, but I NEED more Elements of DISharmony in the actual MLP:FiM episodes.

Am I the only one who loves how when Sawtooth does a video with EventHorizon they're fighting and insulting each other but with CC they're being so nice and disagreeing in the most peaceful way possible-

The elements of harmony: Generosity, Honesty, Kindness, Loyalty, optimism; combine those five elements to get the sixth element of harmony, the magic of friendship.

The elements of disharmony: Greed, Deception, harshness, treachery, pessimism; combine those five elements to get the sixth element of harmony, the magic of enmity.

There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force

Sombra’s Horn is an element. As well with the necklace.

I Think That The Element Of Magic Is Actually The Balance Between The 5 True Elements Of Harmony And The 5 (Not 6) Elements Of Disharmony

CC: didnt gandalf say that?
shows picture of dumbledore

I think the elements of DISharmony formed the alicorn amulet since it can beat twillights lvl

The alicorn amulet makes sense.
The gem in the middle looks like the element of generosity’s gem.
Also Trixie got it to get more power, The opposite of generosity.

Well when you were talking about the relics it could be another way of showing the elements of disharmony just like in season 8 when the different relics went to each of the main students as the color of the normal elements. This could be the same with the elements or relics of disharmony.

I would say cozy glow would be the elemant of dark magic. I mean, she acts to gets friends and she wants power. Sunset is from Canterlot in another world, shes now changed.

Thats my theory, what do u guys think? I like ur vids and theories Sawtooth waves! 😄


Edit: She would also make a good one for betrayal. Acting to get friends knowing that she wants power for herself = betrayal

Cruelty: King Sombra (He was a tyrant when he ruled the Crystal Empire)(IDK)
Selfishness: Lord Tirek (He stole all the ponies' strength, flight, and magic(and Discord's powers)for himself)(The book from Inspiration Manifestation)
Deception: Chrysalis (Pretends to be other ponies/creatures)(IDK)
Treachery: Cozy Glow (Betrayed Mane 6 when she tried to take over the school)(IDK)
Fear: Pony of Shadows (The Stygian part of him is reformed, but the shadow part they sent back to limbo made everyone scared of him like in the Castle Mane-ia episode)(IDK)
Magic of Isolation/Dark Magic: Grogar(The REAL Grogar, not Discord!)(Created monsters and ruled over a young Equestria)(Alicorn Amulet)

"Coocoo crazy banana bonkers"

I'ma start using that

The elements of disharmony would be more phycological than a physical item, so depression would be gloom or something. After all, everything about the elements of disharmony are opposite of the element of harmony!

I always kind of expected Discord to set up his own anti-mane 6 with some evil counterparts and elements of disharmony.

Maybe the elements of harmony and disharmony are the same thing.

"May the force beam you up Katniss."
-Gandalf, Headmaster of Hogwarts

I might know but starlight glimmer’s cutie mark has a part that looks like Twilights cutie mark so what if starlight glimmer‘s cutie mark is basically the opposite of twilight’s crown So yeah that’s all I’m really guessing

Cc's "may the force beam u up" line is how to piss of 7 fandoms at once.

I think the Anti element of Magic should be the Element of Power.
Since the good ones have mostly magic, the evil people who absorb it or have it, they might call it Power

I remember watching this when I was little . Rewatching it now , brings back memories.

but we have already seen the 'Elements of Disharmony' (maybe) in 'the return of harmony' when Discord 'corrupts' the mane six right? the liar, the grump, the hoarder, the brute and selfish.  (S.2 Ep.2)

Since the elements of harmony are just symbols as stated in the ending of the end part 2, maybe the elements have the ability to symbolize disharmony if used for the wrong reasons which would explain why Twilight's own element turned Sunset Shimmer into a demon. I think the only reason why the elements didn't work on the mane 6 corrupted by Discord was because they weren't really interested in doing anything with the elements.

I think the evil elements would actually belong to (if they exist)
Cruel : Sombra
Selfish : Flim and flam
Lying : Cozy glow
Disloyal : Tirek
Gloom: Chrysalis
Evil magic: Grogar
(I’m not counting anyone who got reformed)

here’s what i think:
first, the elements of disharmony don’t need to be the exact opposite of the elements of harmony, since what the pillars represent are exactly synonymous with the elements of harmony
second, i think that the elements of disharmony would be jealousy, greed, power, manipulation, fear, and chaos
discord-chaos, cozy glow-manipulation, nightmare moon-jealousy, sombra-fear, chrysalis-greed and tyrek-power

Maybe the Elements of disharmony don't actually represent the exact opposite of the elements of Harmony. They're different, but similar. If it was the opposite then the alicorn amulet should have used the opposite of magic (whatever that may be).

Instead, they still represent the same elements, but they're taken to the extreme to the point that they become a force for Evil.

It would explain why Trixie was instead using magic for evil instead of for good like Twilight. And when Rarity used that book, she thought she was still being generous, but it was taken to the extreme, to the point that she was forcing her wants on others.

I have a theory to match ‘Five missing elements of Disharmony’….. in the first episode, there are five elements found first. With Disharmony, everything will probably be different including how many are missing. The alicorn amulet was the only supposed element of Disharmony known. With the elements of harmony, there are five that are known. What I’m basically saying is :
Five missing elements of Disharmony - 1 known.
One missing element of Harmony - 5 known.
If they are opposites on other things, it makes sense for this to just be another ‘spark’ prophecy.

I love how 5/6 of the bearers have some kind of connections or relationship with the original harmony element bearer.

You know how after Sombra kapowed the harmony tree the spirit of harmony began showing up, well The Brony Notion did a video after this one saying Discord is the parallel to the harmony spirit as he represents chaos. Wouldn't it then make sense if there was a chaos tree of some sorts that was destroyed and Discord is the released spirit. The tree would've probably been destroyed a little before Celestia and Luna first banish Discord as they haven't seen him before. In addition, one could say that teh different animals discord is made up of are the species of teh chaos element barers . It'd make sense because the barers would work independently so discord is like a blend of them whereas twilight best represents all her friends qualities combined so the tree of harmony took her form.

Elements of Harmony to Disharmony are :
Magic-Evil Magic
Generosity-Selfishness
Kindness-Mean-ness?
Honesty-Liying
Loyalty-Faithlessness
Laughter-Sadnees



Yor Welcome

dark doesn't always mean evil, its just dark. plus the elements of disharmony could be used by some of the protagonists as long as they embody the element

Actually, in the comics, there's another reality that balances Equestria by having all the characters on the opposite side (Sombra is good, Celestia is evil,...) so if the elements of disharmony exists, they'd rather be there.

I like to imagine that when the elements of disharmony fight each other their power grows.

I think friendship and teamwork, the kind of stuff that make evildoers unstoppable, would transform the elements of disharmony, because that's part of harmony! Even if they knew that they would be stronger together, they would probably also know that the power in those gems would dissolve if they used harmony to create disharmony.🤔

Maybe the elements of disharmony are trapped inside the elements of harmony and celestia and Luna thought that it would be safe since the barriers of the elements kept them safe

The alicorn ambulet: element of corruption magic
Rarity's spell book: the element of selfishness
Siren' necklace: the first one dishonesty second unhappiness third greed

I think Discord is the "counterweight" for the elements of harmony.
He is the spirit of disharmony, the embodiment of chaos.

What if the elements of harmony could be turned into the elements of disharmony and back, but only the most powerful ponies could do it, like the alicorns, and what if the were turned into the elements of disharmony centuries ago and before they turned them back they used them to create dark magic items to keep the balance in the future and to keep the elements of harmony good.And what if starsworld the bearded translated ancient texts talking about alicorns, but he couldn’t figure out how to bring alicorns back and didn’t figure it out until clover the clever told him about her experience in the cave with the three leaders and their helpers.

I have a theory of my own but may not be canon:

Have you ever heard of My Little Pony the Movie? Yes, I watched it too. And after I watched it, as a gift, my relatives gave me a comic book; My Little Pony: The Prequel. I was intrigued by the book, it was entertaining, but I now realize...
THAT THIS BOOK CONTAINED ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF DISHARMONY
Basically, the book revolved around this green jewel necklace called the ‘Misfortune Malachite’. It caused misfortune, suffering, and destruction to whoever held it. It was stolen from the castle of (I forget) and taken by the Storm King. The king and queen warned him of it’s power, but he didn’t listen and took it anyway, leaving the kingdom in ruins. This is also where Capper sneaks onto one of his ships. And so, the story progresses, changing the owners of the jewel, from Storm King, to Capper, then finally, to Tempest. This specific chapter shows Tempest decided to team up with the Storm King and him taking back the malachite.
If you read this far and are interested yourself, please, go purchase My Little Pony the Movie: Prequel for yourself and see that this IS one of the Elements of Disharmony, most likely the opposite of laughter, misfortune. Or it may be the opposite of generosity. WHATEVER. Just thank you for reading this far. Have a nice day.

Ok, so this is a good theory but I have another one for you. Twilights element can work alone in the human world so I think it is the same with Trixies alicon thing. All of the element of disharmony are at Crystal Prep, and that neckalce somehow got into Equestria. It is the “leading” neckalce so it can work alone. And since the main one is in Equestria all of the other ones are useless.

In the first 2 episodes of season 2, when the ponies go through the maze, them and their elements turn into the elements of disharmony, they become opposites😯

Also I say the the crown sunset wore was the element of evil magic, the book from Rarity is the element of greed, the a alicorn amulet is the element of cruelty, the main sirens gem is the element of boredom, the left siren gem is the element of lyingness, and the right siren is the element of betrayal.

Puts a photo of Dumbledore on the screen

Me: Breaks into song: SNAPE SNAPE SEVERUS SNAPE DUMBLEDORE!

So, what is the element Trixie had, and why did it seem to distort her mind unlike the elements of harmony?

Also wouldn't the opposite of friendship magic be not evil magic, but animosity magic?

Here’s my theory: both the elements of harmony and disharmony exist, but as one physical item. If an element of harmony was worn by the bearer of the corresponding element of disharmony, it would either turn into or be used as an element of disharmony. Like what happened when sunset wore twilight’s crown

now you need to rework this theory with Starswirl’s tree of harmony in mind. i feel like this could create a good head canon since nothing can disprove it now

I think one of the elements of disharmony is king sombra's necklace armor jewel thing on his chest and he may have been good but it may have corrupted him

Well, yeah, Twilights element did turn Sunset Shimmer into something awful… but that’s only because she didn’t use it the way it was meant to be. The crown itself realized her true intentions and THATS what turned her into the demon she became.

Raritys book=lust makes more sense because the more rarity wanted something the more it took over oppite of genorosity
Sirens jewels=wrath they spread there wrath of anger through equestria and then the jewles absorbed all of that wrath oppiste of kindness
Alicorn amulet=Pride not evil magic trixie got more powerful the more pride she had and the minute she had loads of pride her eyes glowed red oppiste of magic
Those are the crystals by can replace them all
Oppiste of honesty is greed because they wont stop at nothing untl they get what they want even if it mean being dishonest and this flows perfectly with flim and flams charcter
Oppiste of loyalty is sloth not caring to anyhting at all
Oppiste of laghter is gluttony somebody who is a glutton for no laghter
As you said jewles can hold magic but with raritys book or any of the other elemnts of disharmony they have to be summoned

If the whole point of the elements of disharmony is to be opposites of the elements of harmony then maybe just maybe they will be totally opposite.




If the elements of harmony Exits



And the elements of disharmony are opposites of them ....



Then they probably don’t exist either

I highly doubt the elements of disharmony could be used: they involve elements of disharmony (duh) which includes the inability to actually cooperate. If they could be used, it would be individually, with each causing a specific sort of damage, maybe Betrayal/Disloyalty being able to scatter groups of tightly bonded friends, or anger to cause chaos in groups.

The elements of disharmony would negate each other in the same way that the elements of harmony reinforce each other. Kind like matter and antimatter.

What if the Nightmare Moon VS. Celestia battle was different than what was showed?
Instead of Nightmare Moon being stronger than Celestia, she was using the elements of disharmony against her. Celestia then would use the elements of harmony to banish Celestia to the moon. When Nightmare Moon returns, she doesn't show the elements directly but she still has them; but when she is destroyed, so are the elements of disharmony; except the Alicorn Amulet, of course.

Also, there is always an opposite universe. For example: when you decided to eat cereal instead of a donut for breakfast, there is a universe where you ate that donut for breakfast. So in another universe, the elements of disharmony do exist and are used very often and the elements of harmony are still to be fully discovered.

I believe that the elements of disharmony were shown in season 8 episode 13. when queen chrysalis turns trees into the main 6 they resemble the complete opposite of the elements of harmony so maybe they were the spirits of disharmony in the form of the main six?

Well of course the elements of disharmony(probably) exist! If nightmare moon was able to make a dark version of the wonderbolts, then she could create a dark version of the elements,right? And plus there was an episode for each pony where they weren't acting like their element but that episode is also the episode that they get the relic that turns into a key in season 4. So the elements of disharmony probably do exist as mentioned in the video,there are dark relics that turn a character evil like Trixie and the alicorn stone thingy or the book that gave rarity all of those speels to make things "pretty" etc. BUT HEY THAT'S JUST A THEORY, A FILM THEORY

Is it possible that discord may have transformed some of his magic into the necklace that trixie had used,I mean, discord is still the spirit of disharmony,right?
Tough its now a long time later,the bell that tirek,cozy glow and crysalis used might be one sign of the disharmony?

I’m genuinely upset that the show didn’t even suggest the idea that the elements of disharmony.
They could’ve done a season where they have to try and find the evil elements

I think they may have existed at one point, but were destroyed and the spirit of disharmony from the anti elements manifested into discord

SEASON NINE UPDATE
Hi, just thought I'd give my two cents on the bearers themselves, I was never too sure on the element items themselves...
As Twilight said in the end, the physical elements were just symbols! Here's the two sides of the coin in my opinion

ELEMENTS OF HARMONY
The Pillars — Mane 6 — Student 6
Strength — Honesty — Determination | Yona
Bravery — Loyalty — Reliability | Smolder
Beauty — Generosity — Initiative | Ocellus
Healing — Kindness — Empathy | Gallus
Hope — Laughter — Joy/Optimism | Silverstream
Sorcery — Magic — Unity | Sandbar
(Gallus was the first kind Griffin we know of and Sandbar brought them together to the castle of the two sisters to be together)

ELEMENTS OF DISHARMONY
Mane 6 - disharmony element | embodiment
Laughter - Misery | Chrysalis
Generosity - Avarice | Tirek
Honesty - Deception | Cozy Glow
Loyality - Betrayal | Tantabus [Nightmare Moon]
Kindness - Cruelty | King Sombra
Magic - Power | Grogar

You're welcome.

I don't think there are elements of "disharmony" because "disharmony" goes by a more common name... Discord, literally defined as "a lack of Harmony". He is the spirit of chaos incarnate. Therefore, unlike the Elements of Harmony, which needs multiple individuals to come together, harmoniously, he best preforms alone.

Rewatching this now with the show ending I gots a theory u-u
I think it's possible for the elements of disharmony to exist. However there should be certain things that have to happen like the elements of harmony and how they were created.
Let's start with the tree of harmony. It was planted and therefore boom the elements were born. But maybe those that are corrupt could do the same just with dark power. Obviously-
Next we have the question 'who would represent the dark elements?' Well it's simple. Grogar's little squad will take 5 of them:
Grogar - Power (as he lead them all and wanted destruction of the mane 6)
Chrysalis - Cruelty (she was mean to pretty much everyone like her hive sometimes and the mane 6)
Cozy - Dishonesty (as she lied to everyone as we know)
Tirek - Greed (he wants magic for himself right?)
Sombra - Betrayed (this is because he was reluctant to work together and only focused on himself)
But obviously that's only five. What about the sixth? Who will take that role?
So basically I don't think it'll be discord. At the end of the show it seems he's been fully reformed or so it seems. However it couldn't have been him as if it was by now discord would've gotten some sort of punishment you'd think.
So who is the replacement you wonder?
Someone that's good.
Yeah that's right. Maybe someone like the mane 6 or the princesses will become corrupt and aid the darker side. If not do this on purpose. Why I think that is simple. It seems to be very easy for someone to undergo a switchero from good to bad. Like how easy it was for the vines to kidnap celestia and luna. If it's taken the smallest event like starlight's past just because of one tiny thing it won't mean it'll cause damage.
I don't think the designs will even look the same for the villains cus the elements we know of represent the mane 6's cutie marks. But this cannot follow the same trend for the new elements as most of the villains don't even have cutie marks. So instead it'll focus more on personality instead in my opinion.



Idk ;-;

We all know generosity is Rarity, and what I the opposite of generosity? Greed. That's why I think the book Rarity had found WAS an element of disharmony.

this is a video i keep coming back to for osme reason. i don't think that, if the elements of disharmony (i like to call them elements of dissonance) were to exist, they'd be PURELY evil - i think it comes from a misconception. the elements of harmony aren't 100% good and any of them in excess can be bad, that's why they need the others to 'harmonize' with to keep them in check:
too much kindness can leave you vulnerable (which is why fluttershy had her whole arc about learning to assert herself when needed)
too much generosity can make you forget to take care of yourself, living for others and not you (which i believe is why they chose rarity for it, as she's already confident)
loyalty is only as good as whoever you're loyal to, and it's easy to lose yourself in it (without reaching to any tasteless real-world examples, wouldn't you say the pre-reformed changelings were extremely loyal to the hive? thorax (and you) were the exception, not the rule)
honesty in excess can lead to easily hurt feelings, i think we all know someone who's a jerk and justifies it as 'i'm just being honest'
laughter can be innapropiate in certain moments, and can be downright mean sometimes (evil villain laugh?)
and as we know, magic can go both ways. we've seen both twilight and midnight sparkle.

i think if there's elements of disharmony, they would have to be opposite, yet similar - not 100% bad, but something that is bad in excess but good in small amounts. magic would be the same, of course, but i would hitnk they wouldn't just go for the seven sins either? just food for thought.
also, given that the pillars of equestria had their own "elements" (sorcery, beauty, healing, hope, determination and bravery) it's not out of the question that they could be multiple sets

The Elements of Disharmony are real. Celestia and Luna destroyed their physical forms, but the spirits of the elements of disharmony were transferred into the elements of harmony yet the elements of harmony overpowered them and they lay dormant until something brings out the disharmony in the bearers. Evidence: the return of harmony.

The elements of harmony came from the tree of harmony and discord is the opposite of harmony. So from what I've heard discord who'd have to create the elements of disharmony. At least in a fiscal form like the tree did. But it doesn't matter because the power doesn't come from the gemstone there just catalysts for there power of harmony and/or disharmony. So I think the disharmony there is true but that may not have a fiscal form or they may have been destroyed so it's also possible that the Alicorn amulet is one of them

Ok so here's what I got, the red amulet thing is the OPPOSITE of the elements of harmony, so of there is a spell that makes a dark light if you do it in a room the other ones will appear. But just a thought.

The amulet is a combo of loyalty and generosity from the shape and colours

The owners the opposite elements are versions of the mane 6, perhaps even opposite colours.

I re watched this, and, didn't this already happened?
When chrysalis and her army wanted to take revenge, the changelings, took the forms of the mane six, including spike.
Although it wasn't the mane six who fought the changelings, it was starlight, discord, and Trixie.

I also remember another episode, where the mane six are separated, and was found by the other mane six, but complete opposite. Rarity, instead of being generous, was possible of a rock she found.

Did I make sense?
Also, I'm a fan!
I'm just commenting what I thought of.

Diamond Tiara being the element of cruelty and Blueblood being selfishness seems pretty accurate to me

My theory: so if you get the alicorn amulet you create a dark spark and so the other amulets appear in other places in equestria.

I don't think spitfire deserves a reputation being the element of betrayal. she actually works hard to make all her students elite flyers. and maud may have no personality, (no offence) she doesn't deserve the element of hate. because even though she is super dull, and has no expression, she loves her sister, and her family. she doesn't hate everything like an element of hate would. and diamond tiara got reformed, so she doesn't disserve her element either, but I agree with everything else

This is incredibly late, but I feel like the elements of disharmony do exist, but not in the physical matter as the ones of harmony do. I feel it’s also necessary to be told that I’m not even caught up to the finale of g4, but I’d still like to try and share my input.
Proven by later videos, the disharmony elements wouldn’t have been made into gems in the first place for reasons not said in this particular video. I think that the bearers of the elements of harmony (mane 6), are also the bearers of disharmony. My reasoning is because the opposites of what they stand for are the ones most often used to tempt them. In addition to this, is that the balance based argument in this video would be supported. Because the mane 6’s elements are so closely tied to them, it makes sense that they would also have the internal struggle of staying on the harmony side. The balance is already off, so the temptation is trying to get the mane 6 to be equal in both harmony and disharmony. So basically, opposites attract, always fighting for equilibrium. Thus, my reasoning that go for this theory. But, in the end that’s all it really is: a theory. A GAME HORSE THEORY— okay I’m sorry I had to.

Interesting ways for the elements of disharmony to be a way for Gen 5 to explain why they are separated.

Watching back to these videos after season 8 i have a new theory for this. The elements of disharmony do exist but inside the elements of harmony hense why sunset shimmer was turned into a raging she demon because the element of disharmony magic was activated by her evil spirit we see this when the mean 6 perform the oposite actions of the elements of harmony around the elements of harmony

The elements of disharmony are real because on season 2 (first 2 episodes) Discord gave them the elements of harmony which was fake. The real one was at Twilights tree house. Also Discord is the spirit of not just cheos but also disharmony

I think the disharmony version of magic is power.
Cozy glow has proved that. Friendship is magic but if it fallen into the wrong hand, it become power

I think the other five elements of disharmony were destroyed by Starswirl or something, but they lost the Alicorn Amulet. Or maybe the siren's necklaces are fragments of one of the elements....

Would this mean, if one were to be destroyed, it's counter part would get stronger 🤔? And what would happen if the element USER wore BOTH at once?

“May the forse beam you up, Katniss”
Im getting that hung up somewhere in my house hold on..

The Alicorn Amulet Had The Power Of An Alicorn, Of Course It'd Be Hard To Destroy.

Sombra's Horn: The Element Of Fear

The Alicorn Amulet: The Element Of Power

Grogar's Bell: The Element Of Greed

Rarity's Book: The Element Of Selfishness

The Siren's Necklaces: The Element Of Manipulation

(There could be more items, You can reply if you think another item could fit into this :D)

I'm about to go on a rant, so get prepared for a lot of reading. I kind of hopped on this theory about there being an elements of disharmony. I don't really understand the origins that much, but there is still some kind of the opposite of the main 6 here. On season 2 episode 2 discord reverse the main six, They all become themselves but opposite. Everything ends up fine in the end, but this is not the only time we've seen this. Season 8 episode 13 Chrysalis did just about the same thing but in a different way. She used a picture and a lock of their hair to summon the "mean 6". Chrysalis is version is all the same to discord's except twilight, but that can be easily explained. Twilight from season 2 to season 8 has developed more, as in twilight is now a princess, and twilight is an alicorn (as in a stronger and more powerful). So it's kind of is plausible that there could be a"mean 6", or elements of disharmony. Just wanted to bring that to light☺!

Hold up. There was the Alicorn Amulet only right? With five other elements missing? When the Elements Of Harmony where introduced in the first season, one, the element of Magic, was missing. The other five were there. Coincidence?

Hmm a little opinion
The element of magic in the first EQ movie turned Sunset into a she demon because she was filled with negative emotions and evilness. But the Crystal's magic was different towards Twilight because her intentions are pure.

So IMO if the elements of harmony went to the wrong evil hands the magic in it will turn dark

Idk does this make sense??

Well... sunset shimmer was reformed and Diamond tiara learned the power of friendship and learned that her cutie mark wasn't what she thought

Here what I think
Dark magic - sunrise dull.
Gloom- greyie cake
Disloyalty - solid slow
Greed- Commonity
Dishonesty- Orangejill
Cruelty- rushoutgping
All of these are characters I came up with. They would be inverted in colors.

I wanted to tell you, don't you all know that Diamond Tiara and Sunset Shimmer are reformed? They can't fit the chain and become the bearers. Neither can Spitfire. So, here is the updated version of the bearers.
Betrayal - Lightning Dust
Cruelty - Sombra
Evil Magic - The Dazzlings
Just a Hunch.

They could reform in season 9. So all I know is Grogar is evil magic!

The alicorn amulet might be the element of greed because it has a rhombus crystal shape just like rarity’s and greed is the opposite of generosity

i think the “mean six” episode already showed us that there is the element of disharmony. Imagine if the mean six get the elements of harmony，they really could turn into the elements of disharmony，right？

But if The elements of harmony was created by the tree of Harmony, planted by the pillars, how was the Element of disharmony created? Was there a tree of disharmony?

I've just had a brilliant idea.
What if, because of the balance, the Element of magic would have been imbetween. As in, if the Element was infused with a good heart, it would be harmonious. Yet, when infused with a dark/evil heart, it would cause disharmony, which is why sunset turned into a 'raging she-demon'!

damn hasbro needs to watch these it'll make the series come a lot faster and wayyy more juicy

My Theory-
Discord is the creation of the elements of disharmony and the only reason the alicorn amulet survived in a sence is because it's more powerful then the others!

realistic but it does kind of remind me of the 7 deadly sins i think wwhat if the 5 elements of disharmony based more around the 7 deadly sins for example lust(getting love without returning it) = chrysalis / trek = greed (or gluttony since he eats magic in a sense) / cozy glow: envy / nightmare moon=anger/ king sombra= pride/ think about it the elements are generousity loyalty kindness honesty and magic your thinking of more of direct opposite wwhen you think about it greed and gluttony are both the opposite of generousity / envy is the opposite of loyalty (since envy usually leads to betrayal)/ anger/wwraith is the opposite of kindness since kindness is forgiving and wwarm while anger is cold and stubborn (as shown in mending fences when twilight goes to meet old friends only to find one of them holds a grudge and infact shuts herself off) pride is the opposite of honesty (kind of) since usually people will lie to hide their flaws like that time rainbow dash was framed (i forgot who by) but that guy was willing to shame someone else to save his own pride and wwwell as for magic and lust idk but you can see it but another thing that maybe that makes the elements strong is that they can affect other ponies wwho harbor similar feelings wwhich means that even the mane 5 would have trouble due since they arent perfect but i can imagine the elements of harmony can sorta cure but its harder since they dont have a area affect i can also imagine that people harbor these feelings the strongest would also be drawwn to the these elements which is how they find them give me a like or a comment if you think if this is reasonable a dislike or comment if you think im more likely wwrong

Disharmony would be too much dark or to much light. Harmony is balance. So is harmony really good and disharmony really bad? We have already seen harmony literally every single time a villain turns good. Such as luna, discord, starlight glimmer, sunset shimmer, shadow, midnight sparkle, and gloriosa daisy. Where there is bad there is good. The only disharmony I have seen is when queen chrysalis is defeated and the Siren's gems are destroyed. Do you agree?

What if since Princess Celestia used the elements of harmony on NightMare moon, besides Twilight, Princess Celestia is the beholder of the elements of harmony, while NightMare Moon is the beholder of the elements of disharmony?

Good theory and I agree with almost everything, but I don't think that Diamond Tiara should be the element of cruelty just because she was only a filly who teased people. Also, the elements of HARMONY'S wielders are very close with each other and share a special bond. Those ponies have never met each other and hardly share the same intention. Hmm, yes, yes, we have seen dark crystals as well as good cryslals (elements of harmony). Also, from what I can remember King Sombra's crytstals didn't possess any special powers.

btw the allicorn amulet has a diamond on it like rarity's necklace and Trixie was hungry\greedy for power so she would have more power from being away from the others and it representing what she used it for at the time.

Wait a minute, what if one of the elements of disharmony were actually in Rarity's book, and when Spike ate it,
does that mean some villain who heard of such elements and their containers have to journey thru Spike's stomach
to get the book?


Too Gross?

I think these should be the people of the elements of disharmony
Cruelty: Sombra
Betrayal: Crysaliss (Idk how to spell it)
Selfishness: Nightmare Moon
Gloom: [Idk, give some ideas]
Dark magic: Cozy Glow (I think it should be called Darkness)
Deceit: [Idk, give some ideas]

What if the elements of disharmony are the elements itself, just think about it we seen moments where each pony are the opposite of their elements even though they pull it together in the end, but it would be a good balance. Think about it the tree of harmony would like to see balance in Equestra its like the ying and yang situation. Rainbow dash has shown disloyality before, Futtershy has been rude before(rarely but ya know), pinkie has been gloomy before, rarity has been selfish before, and applejack has been dishonest before, I don't have much to say on twilight tho cause how can she not show magic? But also remember when discord was evil and made them all opposite, what if he didn't change them he just brought out something that was always there just made it bigger if ya know what I mean, and for twilight well again there wasn't really much of a change it was just she was gloomy and forgot everything she learned about friendship tbh. so yea

Wel, I could debunk the element of evil magic at the start.
Sunset shimmer is good now, isint she? So I think that, like the alicorn amulet, trixie should have The element of evil Magic.

there are some negative energy hidden around equestria. what if the elements of harmony itself, have a few negative energy in it. or maybe finding out more stuff that has bad magic (like rarity's book) may affect the elements of harmony. (example, when sunset shimmer turned into a demon) but plz pick me. i will subscribe if u do (see more stuff in the replies)

If the alicorn amulet is a element of disharmony it would be selfishness witch makes sense since it’s a diamond shape and rarity’s element is also diamond shape witch also means the writers thought that out and could mean they do exist

I would love to see the elements of disharmony

the elements of disharmony are dangerous magic relics but maybe its better to leave them they are too powerful

That is an amazing theory! Of course! Where else would all these stupid, ancient, evil relics come from!?

I agree with your theory as disharmony or discord isn't really evil just chaotic and harmony isn't totally good just orderly as explianed in the comics and as for that war you were talking about I think that war was between discord the spirit of chaos and his opposite harmony the spirit of order each created by the universe to try to coexist keeping each other in check but every so often one would attack the other unprovoked and when this happened they were each exiled to their own dimensions for a thousand years by the universe like discord would go to his chaos dimenion and harmony her Oder dimension. This would be the norm until one day discord got the upper hand and harmony was shattered and while discord was in exile peaces of harmony fell to equatorial either creating the elements of harmony the princesses or the first pony race explaining why they pretty much worship harmony why friendship is magic and why everyone tries to get along with discord even though he gets on their nerves

What if the sirens’ amulets were the anti generosity (selfishness) element split up to pieces

I think that the Sironses necklaces would make good elements of cruelty, because if the Sirons sang with there necklaces on everyone started to fight

The only candidates for the Elements of Disharmony I can think of are (and this is before Season 5):

Sunset Shimmer: Evil Magic
Discord: Betrayal
Trixie: Deceit
Lightning Dust: Gloom
Queen Chrysalis: Selfishness
Pony of Shadows: Cruelty

I don't think the element of betrayal really suits Spitfire. Yes she did lie about Soarin but she was quick to acknowledge her mistake and she does value loyalty.

Well I disagree with sunset shimmer she is reformed after all so I think the evil magic element should definitely go to chrysalis

In the comic "Of Kings and Changelings" theres acually a tree of disharmony after the alternate weilders of the elements (Chrysalis,Trixie,Derpy,Sunset Shimmer,Gilda,and Maud Pie) defeated the evil version of Cadence to save King Sombra.
Go check it out

Well, now we know that the Pillars planted the Tree of Harmony. :/ So why WOULD they plant a seed for the Tree of "Dis-Harmony".

I don't think Maud would be gloom. To me, Gloom is unhappy and miserable, and Maud is just extremely neutral, calm, and unexpressive.

I think the elements of disharmony would be power for magic tears for laughter greed for generosity betrayal for loyalty cruelty for kindness deciving for honesty.

Here is what I think the ‘Elements of Disharmony’ are (or at least some of them)
Evil Magic : Alicorn Amulet/The gems King Sombra makes
Bearer: Grogar/King Sombra
Greed/Selfishness : Rarity’s Book
Bearer: Blue Blood
Betrayal : Tirek’s Necklace (the one he gave to Discord)
Bearer: Tirek/Lightning Dust/Cozy Glow
Cruelty : Sirens’ Necklace
Bearer: The Sirens
Deceit : ?
Bearer: Flim and Flam
Gloom : ?
Bearer: ?
I’m not sure what else to add or exchange with, so if any of you have any other ideas, please tell me what they are.
I know that MLP has ended, but I would just like to know what any of you guys think. Thanks!

Edit: I would love to add Queen Chrysalis here somewhere, but I don’t know where she fits here.

The element of cruelty would actually belong to cozy glow because diamond tiara changed same thing with sunset so the element of evil magic would belong to to teric or king sombra

my theory is that if the elements of disharmony exist they are the hearts of windigos. Windigos appeared when the pony tribes much conflict and hated each other. When the leaders and their number 2's were in the cave and the fire heart was created the windigos were gone but because hate is inevitable so the elements of disharmony were all thats left.
The elements of disharmony were scattered to the edges of equestria and beyond.

if Maud Pie was the element of Gloom,
than wouldn't she be fighting her sister?
and she's the oppisite of her sister's element.

Element of evil magic? How about the element of science? And Clarke’s third law?

I think the main villains might be the element of disharmony
Magic- nightmare moon
Generosity- crystalist
Honesty- flimflam
Loyalty- cozyglow
Kindness- triek (cause he could of made friends with ponies as his brother but didn't)
Laughter- I don't have one yet so you can say in the comments

Princess luna: guilt
Queen crysalis: deceit
Maud pie: gloom
Cozyglow: Betrayal
Lord tirek: selfishness
King sombra: evil magic

I think that the alicorn amulet was broken into 3, and celestia cast it into the equestria .The sirens found them them.

After seeing sunset shimmer turn into a she demon i believe that there is no harmony or dishormony element at all let me explain we saw twilight turn into a powerful pony but more powerful help of her friends but sunset shimmer turned into a she demon why by a element harmony somehow it has disharmony in it . it means that the powerful gem's magic depends on wearer 's intentions like sunset shimmer 's intentions were evil but twiligth's intention's were good

I agree with you but not maud, sunset, spitfire


Maud: she shows happiness but in a different way, she is happy but she doesn’t smile




Sunset: I would agree with you ONLY if she was still mean/evil, she is now nice now, you can look at equestrian girls forgotten friendship




Spit fire: I’m just confused, why would she be the element of betrayal???

The Elements of Disharmony theriosey by me! 1. They would have diffrent shaped gems EXAMPLE Dishonesty wouldn't have an Apple, but something to do with the bearer's cutie mark, not Applejack's. 2. Like you said, Discord could have been created because the Tree of Harmony was planted. So, with this therioy, the Elements of Disharmoney were created to oppose The Elements!

I can’t believe this hasn’t been brought up in the show

Can you make an updated version of this please :D <3

I wish Lauren Faust notice your theories they are masterpiece!

My theory is that Nightmare Moon created the elements of disharmony, except for the alicorn amulet and the crown or the spirits of the elements were in the people mentioned all along

Why should there be 6 elements of disharmony?
There could be also only be 1 element of disharmony. I mean harmony is the opposite of disharmony. More is the opposite of less.

Is it bad that when CC said "just a theory" I wanted to shout "A GAME THEORY"? ._.

I honestly thought trixy would own the evil magic thing,I honestly forgot sunset was in mlp 😂

Element of Magic
Element of Kindness
Element of honesty
Element of generosity
Element of laughter
Element of loyalty

Element of evil
Element of cruelty
Element of lies
Element of greed
Element of gloom
Element of disloyalty

I know this was WAY before that, but Cozy Glow is THE REAL element of betray
Edit: she could also be the element of evil magic, due to her knowlage about magic and teamwork

I think discord would be the mane one incharge of elements of disharmony, another would have to be sombra with dark magic and slavery, tirek for greed (would also explain why he and discord know each other), maby crystalis with dishonesty, the shadow pony that took over luna would be opposite of joy, the pony of shadows betrayal
Well that's what I think I mean the mane 6 elements of harmony mane villains elements of disharmony makes sense

I believe there should be balance in your social life you can't spend every second being social you'd stress yourself out or burn out but you also can't spend all day alone with your thoughts it leads to loneliness and suicidal thoughts in some cases

I read the title as "could the elements of DISH harmony exist?"

but IF there were the elements of disharmony that would be to much chaos because discord was made because the tree of harmony was made so there would have had to been even more of an equal amount of harmony to make the elements of disharmony.

What if instead of there being separate elements of disharmony, the same elements of harmony WHERE the elements of disharmony? Like since Apple Jack is always honest, if she where to lie her element would transform into the element of deseat ? Or if reraty where to think only of her self her element would turn into greed? And even in one epasode, with discord the first time he was menchond the main five had turned into they're oppasits! And I apologise for my bad spelling but I just thought of this! And since the old elements like hope brevary and straing and all the others since they could turn into lighter loyelty honesty why couldn't they too turn into weakness cowerdness and hopelessness?

what about Starlight's staff? The one that took everyone's cutie marks? And discords necklace? and didn't nightmare moon have the moon relic on her armor?

Do the
Does elements of insanity exists as well?
I really wanna know
Pretty please

You’re forgetting about grow Guard . Grow grack was the first one to find a questionnaire

Well makes sense because harmony can’t exist without evil somewhere. Ex. : Raava and Vatu from The Legend Of Korra.

How about starlight glimmer instead of sunset shimmer as the element of evil magic? Ehhhh?!?

SEVEN DEADLY SINS some of them already exist in mlp.(Nightmare moon as envy, Daybraker as pride, Chrysalis as Lust,Sombra as gluttony,Maniac Mayhem as greed, and Maud as sloth)

Diamond tiara isn’t the only jerk

blueblood also isn’t the only jerk

flim and flam weren’t fully lying because their machine could probably run day and night without stop so Idealy it would be better if they just used the machine properly

Spitfire... spitfire is a decent candidate so ok

and isn’t sunset supposed to be not canon and in another dimension?

the moral only works while it can make more profits for individual genetic selfishness than competitors.
Mother nature only prefer creature that making more benefits for its own gene.
Think about it: if ponies drop the one of upmost disharmony imoral crime -- racism, the feature can treat and classify creatures(even is the same specie in biology) into two of enemie and friendly specie, bad and good specie, dirty and pure specie, ugly and beautiful specie, harmony and discordy specie.
Then the ponies might hardly to make any goods for its own individual genetic selfishness while doing the fights toward the carnivore specie during the disharmony circumstance of wartime.

Now that there are equestria girls I feel like there's a similar type of magic of course there is friendship the most powerful magic but in the first episode in a equestria girls when twilight and her friends blasted sunset shimmer the rainbow bend over her the same thing happened with the villains in equestria when the villains combined together anything similar

3:42 every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Maybe when the elements of harmony were created the elements of disharmony were created too. :)

Don't forget when chrysalis was trying to get revenge on starlight glimmer and made clones of the element holders such as twilight fluttershy rarity apple jack and rainbow dash but evil anyway so when the clones of them were in the cave with the tree of harmony they were arguing making the elements on the tree go black in that period of time we saw the elements of disharmony

Who thinks that Sawtooth and CC should make a remake of this video using some of the newer characters from the later seasons

Twilight's element turned sunset shimmer into a demon... because sunset was not really kind... I think whoever uses the element... the element reflects the attitude of that person!
(Sorrt about my bad english, it sounded better in my head)

Ok. I’m sorry, i think that this is an interesting theory... however.....

The main parts of what you discussed of your theory was proving why we haven’t or wouldn’t ever see them, therefore we would never have proof...

My theory: The barriers of the Elements of Disharmony are the gray ponies that Discord caused would be the barriers. Here’s why, Discord would be the element of disharmony. And the gray ponies would be the other 5 barriers. When Discord takes over the main 6 would be changed into the elements of disharmony. So they only turn into the dark ponies when Discord takes over. But, when Discord takes over Twilight would be a backup like spike.

So, If there's Elements of Harmony, and Elements of Disharmony, and then someone in the comments said frenemies..


Does that mean there's also elements of ying-yang harmony?

Elements of Disharmony
Sunset Shimmer (Dark Magic) (Element of Magic)
Rarity (Selfishness) (Manifestation Book)
Trixie (Anger) (Allicorn Amulet)
Adiago Dazzle (Controlling) (Siren Gem)
Sonata Dusk (Clutsy) (Siren Gem)
Aria Blaze (Lier) (Siren Gem)

I don't think Sunset Shimmer would be the Element of Evil Magic because finally she became good, didn't she?

Okay now that you said it I realized something what if the elements of disharmony are hiding within the elements of harmony so when Sunset Shimmer put it on her head the element of disharmony was able to show but you couldn't see it

I think lightning dust instead of spit fire would work and Maud pie is happy just in a different way

What about grogar's bell? Or the Jewel/Crystal in Storm King's staff?

Harmony requires both parts, evil and good is not apply to harmony, so elements of disharmony never existed, they were already whole, and that explains why twilight's crown can be used for bad purposes

What is the opposite of all the elements of harmony/the main six good magic - evil magic loyalty - disloyalty laughter - no laughter kind - unkind and the rest

Another thing discord's necklace that Tirek gave him could be an element, I'm still workin that one out.

Elements of Harmony;
Kindness,
Laughter,
Loyalty,
Generosity,
Honesty,
Magic,
All together: Friendship.


Elements of Disharmony;
Cruelty,
Unhappiness,
Betrayal,
Greed,
Lies,
Dark Magic,
All Together: Corruption.

The Alicorn Amulet might be a mix of ALL the elements of diharmony, because if you aaw the episode, the Alicorn Amulet CORRUPTED Trixie.

Evil Magic: Queen Chrysalis
Betrayal: Cozy Glow
Greed: Tirek
Cruelty: Nightmare Moon (no longer in action cuz Luna)
Chaos: Discord
Selfishness: Gilda

I also have something to say about these disharmony elements. So we know they exist because in the grand galloping galla episode we see fluttershy being cruel to the animals. So we KNOW her cruelty disharmony element exists so the others must also have them. And if pinkie pie has chaos we know she has that because we saw her go crazy bonkers from the creepypasta AND and actual episode it the series! And Raritys is existing because we see her infect the whole pony Ville. So I'm still looking into twilight AJs and dashies and I'll let us know when I do.

Wait, what about discord? remember how he switched their elements to the opposite, for example apple jack switched from honesty to dishonesty?

you are the smartest and most intelligent pony or person i have ever seen,you should be avorded for that.well done!!

I actually think that the eodhs would work bonded by haterit same as the eahs are bonded by friendship

“Didn’t uhh.. Gandalf say that?”
* puts picture of dumbledor on screen*
Me: TRIGGERED BECAUSE I LOVE BOTH OF THOSE FRANCHISES

I feel that the villains would hold the elements of disharmony.

When chrysalis's minions took form of twilight and her friends and then when they reached the tree of harmony and fought chrysalis the elements became black and the minions turned into wood does all of this have a connection with the elements of disharmony.

I think that there's a ship shaping element that must involve chrysalis so why isn't there one

I wish instead of Grogar as Discord they did The elements of disharmony.

It’s funny to think this came out 6 years ago. Canned Cream stopped making pony videos a long time ago. Who else feels old?

I think the dark magic element is human twilights device that turned her into midnight sparkle the dark magic element got into the human world but it was destroyed until twilight in the human world. Made a copy of it that sucks in all magic not just good magic but bad magic

Diamond tiara actually could not be the bearer of the element of cruelty, after the cmc helped her see the light of her cutie mark. So who is...

Yeah the elements of disharmony do exit because when discord came back and change the mane 6 I think that actually made the elements of disharmony

I believe this is how it goes. Midnight sparkle is the element of power, pinkamena is the element of sadness, flutterbat is the element of cruelty, rainbow bash would be the element of betrayal, nightmare rarity would be the element of greed, Timberjack would be the element of dishonesty, starlight shatter would be the element of war, and sunset demon would be the element of humility. Now for the mane 8. Twilight sparkle is the element of magic, pinkie pie is the element of happiness, Fluttershy is the element of kindness, rainbow dash is the element of loyalty, rarity is the element of generosity, Applejack is the element of honesty, starlight glimmer is the element of peace and sunset shimmer is the element of empathy.

Why is spitfire betrayal?

Maybe the element of selfishness is actually the book like the element got transferred to the book that rarity had that caused her to become selfish

why is spitfire the element of betrayal? she’s never showed an act of betrayal

its the same thing with discord. there can't be harmony without any chaos or chaos without harmony. therefore the elements of disharmony must exist somewhere or somehow

Maybe if the element of magic gets hit with all the magic of all the villains it because evil magic.when it turns into a element of disharmony so dose the rest of the elements. I have no proof just a thought

hmm... none of them have been commiting something evil, although sunset shimmer has, but that doesn't mean that they should be it, there should be a reason.

How could Raritys book be an element of harmony

sawtooth we already have seen disharmony remember when the queen of the changelings made clones of the mane - 6 they act the opposite of the mane - 6 so they would be the people connected to the elements of disharmony maybe or idk

Perhaps Celestia ordered the Disharmony Elements to be locked away and all books mentioning it to be burned.

I would like to add 1st the alicorn amulate shows a resembles raritys element wich is the element of generosity and this being "the dark side" it could mean the opposite selfishness because trixie showed selfishness when it took her over also 2nd I would like to point out celestia might know about those elements of disharmony cause she used to be sunsets teacher and sunset says in equestria girls don't you know what happens when you bring an element or somethin lkke that equestrian magic stuff into a different dimension wich made her turn into a raging she demon later sooooo celestia obviously had taught her about those elements of disharmony and it might have something to do with the different dimension thing so ya just wanted to give my opinion

My elements of disharmony (based on the hints)

Trixie - Dark Magic
Alternate Universe Rarity - Keeping (Generosity’s oppisite)
The Dazzlings (Adagio Dazzle (Fighting), Aria Blaze (Meanness), and Sonata Dusk (Evil Comedy))
Sunset Shimmer - Evil Magic

wait at one point in the war the two sides may have been fighting over the element of magic since it turned sunset into a "raging she demon" her words not mine

Sunset would work but isn't discord literally disharmony he is a spirt of pure chaos so maybe it would be discord having twilights and maybe changing a few others

kindness-rudeness
honesty-dishonesty
loyalty-disloyalty
laughter-crying
Generosity-Greediness
magic- ordinary, powerless

it could be
lies,betrayal,greediness/possessiveness,dark magic,meanness etc

Rather than Sunset Shimmer I would say that trixie should be the element of evil magic. Afterall Sunset showed that her power magic is stronger than Twilight's.

CC: Mirror pond

Google: did you mean “Mirror pool”

I think that Sombra,s gem is the element of, well the opposite of generasity

The elements of harmony are just crystals it is their friendship that is the power

Sunset shimmer turned good now. So she can't be an element of evil magic,she is an element of harmony now.

If the elements of harmony were in the wrong hands they turn into the elements of disharmony

wait, if the elements of disharmony exist, wouldn't discord know about them? if anything they are the artifacts of HIS MAGIC.

wait but if element of magic turned someone evil then were all those crystals harmony and disharmony simultaneously? and i am seeing a pattern in the flip side of misunderstood cutie marks...

I think if there were elements of disharmony they would be the elements of chaos cause discord is the spirit of chaos and twilight (in season 8) becomes the spirit of harmony like ying-yang

I agree with most of the elements of disharmonys match ups except one, sunset shimmer. I believe the element of dark magic/loneliness belongs to discord because I believe when luna and celestia defeat him with the elements of harmony   it symbolizes the end of the war of good and evil, good having prevailed

Well combing this with the theory that sombra used to be a alicorn would make star swirl the maker of that balance

I think that

Cozy glow is opposite loyalty

Film and flam would take 1 crystal and break it into half and share it which is the opposite honesty

I dont know of laughter

Magic could be sunset

Iron will would be opposite of kindness

And blue blood would be the opposite of generosity

Friendship = Friends
Harmony = Friendship
Disharmony = Loneliness
Friends = Multiple
Loneliness = Singular
Elements of HARMONY = Multiple people, being friends.
Elements of DISHARMONY = One person.

What if i told you the elements of haromy are the elements of disharmony , cuz if the main 6 turn their opposite , it could means disharmony . Thats my belive or theory .

When discard made the ponies look all grey they sing the opposite of themselves

Wait so if the elements of disharmony exist that means the element of laughter's sister is the element of gloom?

Cruelty: sombra selfishness: tirek flim flam correct betray :cozy gloom : chrysalis well she was upset and kinda gloomy after losing the hive and the evil magic : grogar

I think another peace of evidence for The Elements of Disharmony is with the Mean Six from MLP Season 8

And what about the elements of insanity?

I think Discord himself is the elements of disharmony. Chaos is the opposite of harmony after all!!

But when the Sirens where singing they where using their magic TOGETHER. So how does that work?

The bearers of Disharmony are
Cosy Glow- betrayal
Diamond Dogs- greed
Sunset Shimmer- Leader
Nightmare Moon- disloyal
Flim and Flam- disceatful

My opinion

What did spit fire do to be the element of betrayal?

this is out of date because dimond tiara is good now and so is sunset!!! please make a new video on this!!

I think Discord should be a element of disharmony The element of Chaos 😁😁 Even though he doesn’t have a good side or oppposite

Since the Alcorn amulet was a diamond shape it was probably selfishness disharmony

And the alicorn amulet exists that could very possibly be a element of disharmony

wouldnt twlights neck less be one of the disharmony thingys the neckless from the movie where they are humans and stuff also wouldmt twlights crown from that unvirse be one of those as well

Libra=Scales Scales=Balance Balance=MLP

Ilumminati confirmed😂

i think the "elements of chaos" is a more fitting name :)

Maybe not because of discord. When you think about it he is the lord of chaos and causes disharmony I guess? It’s hard to explain

One change; Her amulet was selfishness not anti-magic.

Actually ...
In the actual comics there is a war of these "disharmony vs harmony" thingy

wouldent the elements of harmony be the elements of disharmony changing between good and bad depending on the intentions of the user?

HOLD UP
Sunset shimmer had the power to see their backstory like in that one equestrian movie of everfree
She became nice a few episodes and in one, she came back to the pony world to I think forgive her mistakes
She then became apart of the mane six, thus the name becoming the mane 7.
In the friendship games movie she became a good person and save the equestrian twilight not the pony twilight that knew magic from being corrupted and opening the portal to the pony world. She may became a demon in the past but she is now good. Also diamond tiara, she wanted to forgive her sins and what she done to the cutiemark crusaders.(This May came before these so sorry)

What if Celestia is secretly evil?

The Disharmony sounds like an evil version of Twilight and her friends with a dim skin Sawtooth

But wait, isn’t the grogar bell a relic as well?

whoa whoa whoa slow down sunset shimmer and diamond tiara changed.Maud pie is gloomy but not evil. spitfire isn't loyal but is not not loyal. she is neutral And how can two ponies share an element?other than that I agree.I also agree with flim and flam but I am not sure how they share an element . I think lightning dust is betrayal. Tirek should be evil magic.

Elements of Dishharmony sound pretty creepy.

Why didn't the main 6 reasoned with all of the villain in Mlp like they did in season 7

0:55 in order (because I'm too lazy) I think it would go like this:
Chancellor naysay, Prince Blueblood, Flim and Flam, Lightening Dust, Maud Pie and Maybe discord? Although he IS reformed, but I feel like Sunset is too far off..

i know i a little late or alot late but i just wanted say that we have seen the elements of disharmony not as elements but the ponies showing it in the episode the mean six we see the opposites of the elements of harmony and in return of harmony we see the mane 6 show the opposite of there element. :D these are just some things that i was thinking while watching the vid.

I would love to see a video analyzing the mlp season 5 trailers and season 5 spoiler. I am quite intrigued by the pony's equal sign cutie marks and curious to hear everypony's predictions!

I thought they were the Elements of Chaos. idk, it just sounds better than 'Disharmony'. But that's just me, I suppose.
rubs head

If you ask me the elements if disharmony should belong to Sunset Shimmer and The Shadowbolts from The Friendship Games (Sugarcoat,Sunny Flare,Sour Sweet,Lemon Zest and Indigo Zap)

Well When Discord Corrupted the mane 6 they become their opposites so the elements are.

Element Of Greed
Element Of Anger
Element Of Lies
Element Of Decieving
Element Of Cruelty
Element Of Idk (you can name the opposite of magic)

That's because it is the element of dark magic it also enemies because friendship is magic

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I always thought Pinkie's element was a skull. Well.... 2 years ago actually.

Wait a minute. Disharmony doesn't means evil. Discord is the best example for this.

After having talked about Star Wars I sincerely hoped you’d say “Even when the villain seems to have the high ground”

Spit fire, diamond tiara, and sunset shimmer would not be the bearers of the elements of disharmony because diamond tiara and sunset shimmer changed and spit fire is the captain of the wonder bolts and she has NEVER betrayed her team. She even made friends.
Like if you agree

In simple statement:
The either Selfishness or Selflessness are Disharmony.

Can you make a difference between the two dimension?

I know this is five years ago but the show is over so the elements of disharmony don’t exist...



















































































Or do they......?

What if the elements of DISharmony are the human world's version of the elements

i think lighting dust should be betrayal not spitfire because she's not that evil, just really strict

We have all heard about the elements of harmony but is it possible that the elements of disharmony exist as well? FRIENDS

Did you know dragon's breath is the case of magic

Well there's not only the owners this harmony with the elements of neutralizing neutral what can be described as neutral a pony or anyone with neutral standards neutral 50/50 the bad and good now if we take a close look at all the characters you can wait for that can be described that's neutral neutral people disarming one that's Harmony your favorite opinions are 50/50 their personality 50/50 so if we can find individual six individuals like this okay I just wanted and consider them into a neutral state

I think trixie's Item would be a element and it would make who ever where’s it a alicorn and if u take it off it where’s off and it would be the element
Of POWER! And belong to trixie ...

Maybe the alacorn amulet is from the human world..... what happens when you put a element to another world?

You know spitfire is good not bad so she wouldn't have that element other than that I kinda agree with u

Of choice it can be exist, you know the nature never create rightness.

I think the element of evil magic should be power you know the bad kind of power

There's a word for Disharmony, Discord.

i think that the element of evil magic would be sombra or chrysalis or trek

My theary: king sombra’s dark magic can turn the elements of harmony into the elements os disharmony

The elements or disharmony would be gloom (laughter) dishonestly( honestly) un loyal (loyal) selfish (generosity) devilisment (magic) mean (kindness)

The elements of disharmony might be in the alicorn amaubulent or the green element

The opposite of magic could be darkness

Maybe there's another element hidden for the future

They probably don’t exist do to the fact that the tree was created by the pillars and no one ever created an alternate tree or different elements.

I do think the equal opposite is possible but I kinda don’t agree with the candidates.

I don’t think Maud and Sunset would not be the bearers of the elements of disharmony Maud is just gloomy and Sunset reformed

The story that you get told when you watch the first episode at the beginning well guess what there is an element of harm me a picture of the elements of harmony and there’s a green element who the heck is the bearer of this green element of Harmony that means a seventh element Existes

Maybe you can replace Spit fire for Lightning dust

Ok I just want to come from the future and the elements of disharmony would probably be the mane six that crisheles (sorry idk how to spell her name) but still maybe those are the ones were the elements of disharmony

'Brony Notion'? Today it was more like 'Star Wars Notion'! I loved today's episode! :) I too have thought of the elements of dis-harmony, and if they exist. But now that we have seen Rainbow Rocks, I think Sunset Shimmer should be removed as the bearer of the element of dark magic and replaced with Trixie. 

I have a very about the element of magic what is one in the same disharmony and harmony that's why it comes sunset shimmer into a shedemon because it's the magic it represented dark and light magic

This theory was proven wrong when Starswirl and the other ponies told the Main 6 they planted the tree of Harmony. ;--;

“we all know about the elements of harmony, but is it possible the elements DISharmony exist as well? FRIENDSSSSSSSSSSS” 0:01 - 0:10 oh and ALSO i believe when sunset brought the crown to the human dimension the only reason she became a demon thing is because she was trying to use equestrian magic in the human realm.

Could the elementents of DIShomarny exist?




Yes, you saw in the first episode with discord in it ;-; he turned the mane six into the elements of DISharmony

may the force beam you up katniss
-gandalf

If there are elements of disharmony, don't you think discord would be one of them?

Can you make this video again cause we know some of those Ponys wound hold the elements.

I doubt you could destroy an element of harmony or disharmony

evil canned cream is so right it would be a perfect match

diamond tiara redeemed herself at crusaders of the lost mark, change that role, and she didnt be mean herself, her mom made her "big poopy meanie face"

Dis elements :unicorn amulet : king sombras horn :grogars bell :the spell book : the memory stone: dis elements powers: craziness :madness :evil magic :darkness

Betrayal would be Lightning Dust
And Envy ( evil magic ) would Idk you can tell me what you think.

we did see the mean six and spitfire cannot be the element of betrayal i think it would be lightening dust

cRyStAlS.
-King Sombra

Sun Set Shimmer is not the Element Of Dark Magic...She is the Element of Magic/Friend Ship in Equestria Girls
I know I know...Im From The Future Btw Sun set Is The Leader Of The Mane 6 In human form
Just To Inform You People!
Btw Balance Is Perfect!

I have a feeling that when discord came out for the first time then celestia said “discord is from the disharmony” that’s what i think?

i know this is old but if the elements of disharmony ever existed it will be non reformable villains

Wait.…… in the Equestria girls movie when sunset confronted twilight she asked “do you know what happens if you take an Element of harmony into an alternate dimension?....” and twilight’s Element turned sunset into and evil demon……… i think you know what I’m getting at………🤔 think about that one…...

"What made her go co coo crazy banana bonkers" XD I laughed so hard!

what about the gems in the equestria girls camping movie one thing? the one that the evil person used to turn into a monster? just a thought. also i hv a theory. what if discord had a brother? i know this is farfetched but think about it. the opposite of princess luna is nightmare moon. the opposite of celestia is... i forgot but there is someone so what if discord has a brother that is the lord of harmony? he would be the opposite of chaos and discord

Omg Cannedcream I love how you made your pony with the app pony creator, I used that to make mine too

Every Yin has a Yang. Thank you.

Hold on so now you’re saying Evil will win that is Insane!!! What about none of the elements exist how did that go

But Maud is anything but gloom! Why is Maud one!?

For some crazy reason I always think it's pronounced DISH harmony idk why 😅

7th element celestia’s necklace element of harmony celestial makes sure that everyone has harmony

My theory for the DisHarmony thing is that the mane six would still have them but they're reverse i know this video was long ago tho-

The alicorn amulet's real owner is Celestia and luna's big sister witch never became a alicorn and got the amulet

BRONY NOTION! REMEMBER WHEN U SAID 7 ELEMENTS WERE THARE AND SPIKE STOLE 1 MAKING 6 ELEMENTS. SO DOES THAT MEAN THE LAST ELEMENT OF HARMONY IS DISHARMONY? :|

maybe that Alicorn amulet IS the element of disharmony.
but since it is the element of disharmony is DOESN'T need ''other parts''

The Alicorn amulet looks like the element of genorousity but opposite. Does it for u guys?

what if sombra Amulet is one of the six disharmony elements that would be the disgenerosity and u would tell me why because the jewels shaped a like the only change would be the necklace shape and the rest of disharmony elements doesn't have to be jewels i think those elements of harmony are made by star swirl what if the creators of the elements of dis harmony distored them so no one could use it after them because they made a huge mess and distarctions all the land and they were a legend or star swirl before he gone and went to the limbo he banished all the disharmony elements to human world or should i say equestria girls world that the only Explanation that no pony ever found any disharmony and star swirl did that so could be be only harmony and thanks to twilight and her friends they make that wish come true ............p.s sorry if my english poor and thank you for making those videos sawtooth waves my little pony for ever

Nightmare Moon would probably be either revenge or jealousy.

Disharmony = Anti friendship so it is possible that the owner of element have never seen each other...

Canned cream, ask the creators of my little pony if their is such things as the elements of disharmony.

you might want to update this, sunset shimmer got redeemed, so might want to find another bearer.

I have a question
What will happen if sambra weared the alicorn amulet?

Headcanon accepted. And officially added to my browser's dictionary so it stops giving me a squiggly red underline every time I use it.

if Spitfire Represents one of the elements of disharmony the wonderbolts wouldn’t exist.

Trixie represents the evil magic, not Sunset Shimmer.

You know you should really visit the secret Rift sometime

What about discord planted the seeds tried to steal the magic from the tree is harmony those could’ve made the tree a disharmony

“May the force be me wabcatenss” I died.

Notice that the alicorn amalet is shaped like the rarity’s element.
(Sorry I don’t know how to spell it)

Star wars AND my little pony? YAAAASSSSSS

Does anyone else realized that when CC was talking about gandalf use the picture of Dumbledore

May the force beam you up,Katniss!

The mean 6!
Magic = Witchcraft?
Honesty = Lying
Kindness = Mean-ness?
Loyalty = Disloyalty?
Generosity = Selfishness
Laughter = Boredom

I WANT AN Element of manipulation

The Element Of Dark Magic is Cozy Glow.

The element of magic isent called the element of good magic its the element of magic. The opposite of magic is science.

its just a theory a film theory.