I personally think there are no objects that represent them, but one living entity instead. Discord IS the spirit of disharmony. He is also cruel, greedy, deceptive, not exactly loyal, not the good type of laughter, and is for sure fueled with dark magic.

According to the My Little Pony Wiki: In the My Little Pony Guidebook: The Elements of Harmony, Lauren Faust comments in an interview where she toyed with the idea of Elements of Discord.<br>It is possible that in an alternate world (we know alternate worlds in My Little Pony exist because of some of the comics) there is such a thing as the Elements of Disharmony (more specifically, elements of discord). Chrysalis was able to create the Mean 6 in later seasons (I think season 8?) and according to real world logic, you cant think of a face that doesn't exist, thus meaning that in some world, the mean 6 had to have been a thing, and Chryalis created clones of them. This means that, most likely, we already have the Elements of Discord. In my opinion, I dont think that Discord would be the embodiment of those elements, but more so the ruler of those elements. Twilight and her friends go under the guidance of Princess Celestia, Princess Luna, or Princess Cadence, so the Elements of Discord would probably go under the guidance of Discord in an alternate universe.

According to the My Little Pony Wiki: In the My Little Pony Guidebook: The Elements of Harmony, Lauren Faust comments in an interview where she toyed with the idea of Elements of Discord.
It is possible that in an alternate world (we know alternate worlds in My Little Pony exist because of some of the comics) there is such a thing as the Elements of Disharmony (more specifically, elements of discord). Chrysalis was able to create the Mean 6 in later seasons (I think season 8?) and according to real world logic, you cant think of a face that doesn't exist, thus meaning that in some world, the mean 6 had to have been a thing, and Chryalis created clones of them. This means that, most likely, we already have the Elements of Discord. In my opinion, I dont think that Discord would be the embodiment of those elements, but more so the ruler of those elements. Twilight and her friends go under the guidance of Princess Celestia, Princess Luna, or Princess Cadence, so the Elements of Discord would probably go under the guidance of Discord in an alternate universe.


Elements of disharmony wouldn’t be independent instead it would be held together by hatred (if they exist for sure) so basically
Harmony=friends
Disharmony=enemies

@Aee Bee Cee which one is optimism? There’s honesty, loyalty, kindness, laughter, generosity, and magic

The elements of harmony: Generosity, Honesty, Kindness, Loyalty, optimism; combine those five elements to get the sixth element of harmony, the magic of friendship.

The elements of disharmony: Greed, Deception, harshness, treachery, pessimism; combine those five elements to get the sixth element of harmony, the magic of enmity.

@Adriana Ibarra not frenemies because that would be half harmony half disharmony


Maud Pie wouldn't really be the element of gloom, she just shows joy in a different way

I agree her family (and her bf) are basically the only ones who understand her

Thats true these people are just different they arent bad their just different from us.

It's a family member of the element of laughter so it's not the element of gloom!

Selfish is about self, selfless is about other ponies, harmony is about both of every-pony.

What about one of pinkies sisters being element of gloom

I like Maud Pie ‘cause she is not Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

LOL I THINK THE ROYAL GUARD WOULD BE GLOOM true fact: remember the episode when Fluttershy took care of the phoenix rainbow tried to make royal guards laugh but they just stood there, in the end, they did laugh so not really but its a possibility

Yeah. She also smiles very few, but she still shows joy in a different way

I mean she loves rocks and Pinkie pie and now we know she has a boyfriend

Maud reminds me of spock from star trek.

When we look at terix in this light we actually feel a bit sad for him.

@Rainbow terix, he is driven by a desire to please his father, that he wallows in gloom because he felt his father didn't love him.

But if Maud isn’t the element of gloom, who is?

Ya she was no emotions but she gets happy sad mad embarrassed she just shows her feeling like saying it not by her facle expression she's like raven from teen Titans go

Yup!!! Maud loves Pinkie so much as a sister!! She doesn’t show joy like everyone else!!

i  think so  to and alot of the ponnys and humenes used to be evel or not evel at all

@Jasmine Brooke LIMESTONE PIE LOVES MUSIC AND SMILES

Here's my idea for a new vedio.              Why doesn't Luna s mane do the same wavey thing in episode 2 ?

@GWENDOLYN THOMAS  she smiled sometimes-

@GWENDOLYN THOMAS  she smiled sometimes-

I think element of gloom is limestone pie

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@Peter Porker mud briar maud pies boy friend

@Jasmine Brooke Limestone showed happiness though, she isn't really evil or mean. She's just temperamental

Pick up a very Desna/Mai vibe from her (AtLA/TLoK)

WhiteClover_Animations :3 <br>Actually she doesn’t really show it but she is always happy especially with Pinkie Pie

WhiteClover_Animations :3
Actually she doesn’t really show it but she is always happy especially with Pinkie Pie

she just has happiness in her, bu she dosn't express it.

yeah once she showed happiness but whith a frown

PINKE WILL DONT LOVE HER SISTHER but bad ending

Yeah, and she fought against King Sombra in the war in the alternative timeline. She'd never fight again her sister.

Yeah and I think that we know that Maud wouldn't do anything to make pinkie sad

I agree. I think the real element of gloom would be limestone pie

How about stick in the mud not even pinky can see happiness in him

Michelyn Bright yea I remember that episode


Without Disharmony there would be no such thing as harmony

(Just as, “without dark there would be no light”)

I don't think that without disharmony there would be no such thing  as harmony . Flurry heart is princess of light so there will no disharmony . See the Crystal heart protects Crystal empire, princess flurry heart has a Crystal. I don't know which Crystal but we have to find it out okay

But disharmony is basically Discord, he doesnt have to be bad to create a bit of chaos

Yin and yang. Can’t have the darkness without the light

Yea! It's like Order and Chaos; they're two sides of the same coin, one can't exsist without the other.

I think it is the other way, without light there is no shadow or something or shadows are caused by light. Idk tho


@sweet chicken nugget it was actually season 5.

@sweet chicken nugget it was actually season 5.

@Vanilla Milkshakes YEAH WHEN SHE FAILED SHE BECAME * E.      V.         I.         L*

@Vanilla Milkshakes Cozy could be Deceit because she did lied to the hole school 🏫 the CMC and the student 6 as well as the mane 6 and I think Tirek fits betrayal more because he betrayed his family as for Chrysalis she would be greed or cruelty and sombra would be dark magic

Thank you ! I’ve seen a,most all wonder bolt episodes and what did spitfire even do I think lighting dust would be betrayal ..

@The Asprey Sisters true but even tho she was faking it, she still betrayed twilight and all that, cause they thought that she was good. So it checks our

@thatbozobri really? It seems like I have only watched season 1 on Netflix

Well she was bad from the start she wasn’t friends with them for a second

Yes but this is when she was not in the mlp Fandom

Yes but this is when she was not in the mlp Fandom

Well d****t in case you didn’t notice this was before cozy glow came into the pic

This vid was before cozyglow but I agree 👍

This vid was before cozyglow but I agree 👍

Spoiler she is she took all of equestrias magic and was pen pals with um  . . .  Tirek

@Fireflowfam yeah probably see some eight nine didn't exist or was being worked on

@Vanilla Milkshakes and she almost sucked up all the magic in the world and all she wants his power so

Also remember diamond tiara isn't evil anymore

Also remember diamond tiara isn't evil anymore

Correct but the actually  cozyglow  would be manipulative

Correct but the actually  cozyglow  would be manipulative

@sweet chicken nugget now THAT makes sence

@sweet chicken nugget now THAT makes sence

or the one who was in the episode wonder bolts academy paired with rainbow

or discord he betrayed the mane - 6 for Trec oh however you spell his name

Or the evil magic cus Sunset already turned good

Or the evil magic cus Sunset already turned good

I don’t Believe this vid was during when the show introduced cozy glow

@Vanilla Milkshakes Mane 6 and the cutie mark crusaders ( I think )

yes i dont think it needs to be spit fire even if its not cozy

@Vanilla Milkshakes she didn’t really betray them she was manipulating them

but she wouldn't be introduce in season 2 or other season  she would be exist in season 9  but that could work

Actually decit, bur yes that is rather true

Actually decit, bur yes that is rather true

This was before she existed, but yes she would

This was before she existed, but yes she would

Oh shut up over six years ago in 2021 now

Oh shut up over six years ago in 2021 now

She didn’t exist at the time of this video

She didn’t exist at the time of this video

Yes but you have to understand. This was made before cozy glow

Your right and sunset shimmer turnerd good and represents the element of empiphy

@IzTagz <br>Of course she was just pretending.  Although, she was very convincing at first.

@IzTagz
Of course she was just pretending.  Although, she was very convincing at first.

she didn't exist at the time, but yea definitely

she didn't exist at the time, but yea definitely

@Henna Boström <br>Except for one thing.  That was season 5.  Now, that she’s good now, she’s got friends with the mane six, and Maude Pie.

@Henna Boström
Except for one thing.  That was season 5.  Now, that she’s good now, she’s got friends with the mane six, and Maude Pie.

Actually I think it would be starlight glimmer as the possessor because she betrayed everyone who trusted her.

@simplykhlxe <br>It’s also on kisscartoon.

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Happya🥳🥳🥳🤩🤩🤩😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰

Also known as the seventh element of disharmony.  Since the seventh element of harmony would obviously be reconciliation.  Betrayal would be the exact opposite of that.

Honestly? Now that season 9 is over and done with (yes I'm aware this video was done during season 7), let me add that Twi said they're just symbols, powerful fruit of the Harmony Tree. As for the vilians, here's who I think is what:

Mane 6 - disharmony element | embodiment
Laughter - Misery | Chrysalis
Generosity - Avarice | Tirek
Honesty - Deception | Cozy Glow
Loyality - Betrayal | Tantabus [Nightmare Moon]
Kindness - Cruelty | King Sombra
Magic - Power | Grogar

Honestly? Now that season 9 is over and done with (yes I'm aware this video was done during season 7), let me add that Twi said they're just symbols, powerful fruit of the Harmony Tree. As for the vilians, here's who I think is what:

*Mane 6 - disharmony element | embodiment*
Laughter - Misery | Chrysalis
Generosity - Avarice | Tirek
Honesty - Deception | Cozy Glow
Loyality - Betrayal | Tantabus [Nightmare Moon]
Kindness - Cruelty | King Sombra
Magic - Power | Grogar

@Vanilla Milkshakes Well betrayal means you were have to be one of the group, then go against that group. But CozyGlow was never apart of that group, her intentions were to never associate with them. So, I'd like to think it would be deceit.

Yeah spitfire doesn’t really prove for betrayal

Yeah spitfire doesn’t really prove for betrayal

@Wolflower Movies me to I keep finding these extra episodes that are not on Netflix

CleoRAWR that would make so much sense!!

CleoRAWR that would make so much sense!!

This was made 5 years ago. Cozy glow didn’t exist back then

This was made 5 years ago. Cozy glow didn’t exist back then

But this was a pretty long ago sooo cozy glow was not in the MLP yet

Yea but this was made before cozy glow was made.

Yea but this was made before cozy glow was made.

Honestly I feel like she would be “Munipulitive”

Honestly I feel like she would be “Munipulitive”

This video was made on 2015 copy glow probally did not exist yet

This was created WAYYYYY before she was in the show,

This was created WAYYYYY before she was in the show,

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Yha cozy glow  and I am starlight I now I have the same name as the my little Pony girl but my friend name is angel wolf  I'm just a pony

SEASON 9 IS ON HULU NETFLIX WATCHERS.!!!!

SEASON 9 IS ON HULU NETFLIX WATCHERS.!!!!

when this was made cozy glow wasent here

when this was made cozy glow wasent here

Would there be a element of manipulation? Cozy glow would definitely fall under there <del>w</del>

Would there be a element of manipulation? Cozy glow would definitely fall under there -w-

Or whenever she was powerful she could’ve been evil magic

Or whenever she was powerful she could’ve been evil magic

sweet chicken nugget yeah I bet she’s seen a sneak peek (maybe but season eight is already on Netflix)season eight

They posted this when it was season 7 so that means cozyglow wasn't there yet

Yeah cozy glow would be betrayal! She betrayed the mane six

Yeah cozy glow would be betrayal! She betrayed the mane six


If the young 6 have elemental powers these would be their powers

Sandbar : Ice
Smolder : Fire
Silverstream : Hydro
Gallus : Lightning
Yona : Earth
Ocellus : Energy

@plut0ven imao i had the same thought 💀 but there is actually a Silverstream in mlp, i think shes a hippogriff

I like this, but I think Ocellus should be "Nature", rather, in my opinion; because, thermal(heat) and electrical energy are taken already.

Actually I think sandbar should be water

@plut0ven ikr! I was watching mlp and when Silverstream popped up I was freaking out becuase of the warrior cat. And my family just looked at me like i was nits.

Littlecloud is  my fav cat tho lol

Silverstream? We got my least favorite warrior cat here?

@G5 Studio energy, makes me think of chakra v: in naruto XDD

Is enargy nature magic, cause if it's not then it makes no sense


I have an idea
Trixie had the alicorn amulet
Rarity got a book of spells.
The dazzling have the crystal necklaces.
The other two are missing or were destroyed.


NightmareMoon-  Treachery
Master Discord -Insanity
Queen Chrysalis-Deception
King Sombra- Cruelty
Lord Tirek -Greed
Starlight Glimmer - Magic of Isolation

Most of them are refirmed or dead and besides can the elements even be used on a non pony?

@bee the change and idk what pony, the magic of FACISIM

@bee the change this is the best thing I’ve heard all day🤣🤣🤣

3 are reformed,I destroyed,two still evil

Nightmare Moon: She's back to Luna, woo!
Discord: Reformed in some way?
Chrysalis & Tirek: Turned to stone.
Sombra: Dead.
Starlight Glimmer: Reformed, she became good.

Weeeelll Starlight and Discord are reformed.

But starlight is good now she is reformed

@Kelsie Shelley I think there might be ‘seemingly harmful harmony’ (or some other name for that,) elements. Mentioned in tirek’s monologue, his brother scorpan ‘Warned celestia of tirek’s scheme,’ but of course, because he wasn’t a pony, nobody believed him. They could’ve thought he meant harm, but I’m guessing his element could be.. ‘Aching (or not) Truth?’

Well, there are a few problems with that. Nightmare moon is now Luna, discord is reformed queen chrysalis is turned to stone with lord tirek and cozy glow. And king Sombra died and starlight glimmer is reformed

@Alicia Chiminje <br>I’ll note real quick, it’s not entirely gone away, she has the magical capabilities in her vanes to keep doing so.

@Alicia Chiminje
I’ll note real quick, it’s not entirely gone away, she has the magical capabilities in her vanes to keep doing so.

Alicia Chiminje hmm, maybe. I’m just gunna say real quick, daybreaker doesnt count, it was just a creation in starlight’s dreams.

Shouldnt starlight have deception? She tricked an entire town of ponies into thinking that everypony is the same.

Shes nice now. A full grown mayor of the changlings reformed

And now Starlight could be the element of magic of social distancing!

@Amalesh De that is true but if she was to go evil or lose control or such well yeah

Sunset Shimmer is now reformed to a good person person.

@Fixielle wwell not entirely i mean sin is kinda like geometry the main reason you learn it (As far as i know) is to teach it its a thing that exists for itself sin exists cuz of itself say lying you lie sometimes for good purposes but those purposes could be cuz of a certain flaww in life like maybe you are hiding someone in your house to protect them you are forced to lie to the person searching for them cuz that person wants to harm them which is a sin if that person didnt wish harm you'd have no reason to hide the 1st person these things exist in some good ways simply cuz of the bad side so not really if there was no sin in the wworld no flaws it would technically be a perfect world although thats impossible not to meantion sin also exists cuz someone waanted to do something they knewww they shouldnt good or bad use of things everything sorta winds back into the fabric of the world affect and effect and such if that makes any sense

@Sapphire Star Even tho they are counted as sins, without them we would also be screwed. We just mustn't get them take over us.

I CAN'T FIND A FLIPPING ORIGINAL NAME SO HERE

Brigitte Pajares yes but before she was bad

Ramieverse ! I love how you rewrote the elements of disharmony

@Jupiter Girl 6007 Not Nightmare Moon. Nightmare Moon was never reformed. Luna was the one who was reformed. She left the dark side and repented, but Nightmare Moon is literally her evil side that can't be reversed. She has already transformed once, Nightmare Moon is still part of her, just her good side is much stronger.

Puppygamer 99 WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY???!! 🤣🤣🤣😂😂

@XYZ  lol shes just like "oops..." honestly imagine if cozy glow managed to take away all magic and the human world is the result  i mean we are pretty disharmonious

In that case Starlight used magic on the earth and created corona

@Teddy Laté make sense but she would also wwork for wwrath

I mean what if you based it instead on the deadly sins as it would make sense as our world is in disharmony cuz of those sins

Yeah that makes sense EXCEPT most of them are either dead or reformed


You know, in Season 2, The return of harmony part 1 and 2, Discord turns the main 6 into pretty much the opposite of themselves. What if the elements of disharmony are the main 6, but they just choose to show the harmony part of themselves. I haven't put much thought into this, it's just what I think goes with the vid. 😊

Basically the elements of harmony are the elements of disharmony. It just depends on how you use them.

You know, in Season 2, The return of harmony part 1 and 2, Discord turns the main 6 into pretty much the opposite of themselves. What if the elements of disharmony *are* the main 6, but they just choose to show the harmony part of themselves. I haven't put much thought into this, it's just what I think goes with the vid. 😊

Basically the elements of harmony are the elements of disharmony. It just depends on how you use them.


There's the Elements of Insanity, but I NEED  more Elements of DISharmony in the actual MLP:FiM episodes.


Am I the only one who loves how when Sawtooth does a video with EventHorizon they're fighting and insulting each other but with CC they're being so nice and disagreeing in the most peaceful way possible-


The elements of harmony: Generosity, Honesty, Kindness, Loyalty, optimism; combine those five elements to get the sixth element of harmony, the magic of friendship.

The elements of disharmony: Greed, Deception, harshness, treachery, pessimism; combine those five elements to get the sixth element of harmony, the magic of enmity.


There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force

@scvv no....was it about the guy almost getting raped by a horse?

@LucasHFTheWolf well well well if it isn't my old chum,remember me >:)

@•Starry Sky Light• ACTUALLY THERE IS 663 LIKES OMG  ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° (◍•ᴗ•◍)

Then there’s so balance. And people aren’t people without emotion and passion.

Starcea Silvester a Harry Potter character (Professor Trewlawny) said that…

The Wanderer wait aren’t emotion and passion GOOD?

Anger leads to hate
Hate leads to sufering
Sufering leads to the darkside


Sombra’s Horn is an element. As well with the necklace.

What if the elements are already found? Sombras necklace and horn , Raritys book and The Sirens 3 necklaces

@Dobby The Houself oh hi dobby i didnt know u liked mlp

Yes.

Me: Gimme that. I want to collect these now.

Yes.

Me: *Gimme that. I want to collect these now.*


I Think That The Element Of Magic Is Actually The Balance Between The 5 True Elements Of Harmony And The 5 (Not 6) Elements Of Disharmony


CC: didnt gandalf say that?
shows picture of dumbledore

CC: didnt gandalf say that?
*shows picture of dumbledore*

@Berta Dellasala the element of disharmony makes me think of the element of insanity videos made by invertedshadow where brutalight is the element of brutality or insanity, rarifruit is greed, apple pills is the element of addiction, pinkis cupcake is the element of either madness or bloodlust, fluttershout is cruel and rainbine is cybernetics if I remember ^^💧

HARRY DID U PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE dumbledore said <b>calmly</b>

HARRY DID U PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE dumbledore said *calmly*

Ikr i was like 😶 maybe ur working a little too hard


I think the elements of DISharmony formed the alicorn amulet since it can beat twillights lvl


The alicorn amulet makes sense.
The gem in the middle looks like the element of generosity’s gem.
Also Trixie got it to get more power, The opposite of generosity.


Well when you were talking about the relics it could be another way of showing the elements of disharmony just like in season 8 when the different relics went to each of the main students as the color of the normal elements. This could be the same with the elements or relics of disharmony.


I would say cozy glow would be the elemant of dark magic. I mean, she acts to gets friends and she wants power. Sunset is from Canterlot in another world, shes now changed.

Thats my theory, what do u guys think? I like ur vids and theories Sawtooth waves! 😄

Edit: She would also make a good one for betrayal. Acting to get friends knowing that she wants power for herself = betrayal


Cruelty: King Sombra (He was a tyrant when he ruled the Crystal Empire)(IDK)
Selfishness: Lord Tirek (He stole all the ponies' strength, flight, and magic(and Discord's powers)for himself)(The book from Inspiration Manifestation)
Deception: Chrysalis (Pretends to be other ponies/creatures)(IDK)
Treachery: Cozy Glow (Betrayed Mane 6 when she tried to take over the school)(IDK)
Fear: Pony of Shadows (The Stygian part of him is reformed, but the shadow part they sent back to limbo made everyone scared of him like in the Castle Mane-ia episode)(IDK)
Magic of Isolation/Dark Magic: Grogar(The REAL Grogar, not Discord!)(Created monsters and ruled over a young Equestria)(Alicorn Amulet)

Well, I go by which virtue defeats it...
Chrysalis' throne would be anti-magic. It was destroyed by love/friendship.
Alicorn Amulet: greed -- wearer must give it away.
and the Book: deception - since the spell could ONLY be broken by truth. Eating the book didn't help - though that means it's not around anymore.

Deciet- Gladmane (he lied to people and tricked them into if he is there only friend) IDK


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I'ma start using that

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The elements of disharmony would be more phycological than a physical item, so depression would be gloom or something. After all, everything about the elements of disharmony are opposite of the element of harmony!


I always kind of expected Discord to set up his own anti-mane 6 with some evil counterparts and elements of disharmony.


Maybe the elements of harmony and disharmony are the same thing.


"May the force beam you up Katniss."<br>-Gandalf, Headmaster of Hogwarts

"May the force beam you up Katniss."
-Gandalf, Headmaster of Hogwarts

What- isn't Gandalf dumbledores long lost brother?

@Pluto Jerusalem <b>my potterhead heart cringed upon reading that</b>

@Pluto Jerusalem *my potterhead heart cringed upon reading that*

Okay Star Wars, Hunger Games, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter......uh

Combining Harry Potter, hunger games, the lord of the rings and Star Wars, ha

Head master, hogwarts dont tell me you're Dumbledore

The Brony Notion 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 you REALY love your fans

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Hey didn't get didn't Gandalf say that on the Millennium Falcon

Pluto Jerusalem he should have said something like this Gandalf didn’t he say that while he was playing Pokémon go

Maya the Meif'wa Sorry *4 Because
Star Wars
The Hunger Games
The Lord of the Rings\The Hobbit
Harry Potter

Parzival
Fandom's this excluded
Star Wars
The Hunger Games
The Lord of The Rings\The Hobbit
Harry Potter

Allison Schaffer it's a joke dude calm down

Parzival the headmaster of Hogworts is Albus Dumbuldor

Parzival The Fact that I'm watching Harry Potter in the TV

Moira Shaughnessy Gandalf: Lord of the Rings.
Dumbledor: Harry Potter
like how do you not know that?

Moira Shaughnessy Dumbledore is the headmaster

HippoPig21 Dumdledor is the headmaster of hogwarts

Brony notion I want to send you to funky town

HippoPig21 BEAM pff MORE LIKE BEAT U UP KATNIS

I read this before cc brought it up and it confused me greatly

@Zane Wedgeworth 5 actually, beam you up instead of beam me up scotty from star trek

Lol dis is soooo weird y was dis in da video

ok that was 4 mixmatched movies/books in 1 sentence. LOL

@stormy giroux I'm just mixing up fandoms plus the force isn't divergent and it can't beam people up

Derpy doesn't have a T.A.R.D.I.S. the doctor does

May the divergent force beam you up in derpy hooves' TARDIS, Katniss

@HippoPig21 i get why there would be the Doctor and the picture of Spock but why Luke?

And all the fallen klingon reunite in Stovokor singing tales of victory over the orcs of mount doom. :P

"You're a Divergent,Harry"

I mean,he would still have a whole group of people after him. . . .

OMG <br>i just say you're a lizard harry

@The Brony Notion It's like this one picture I saw that said,
"You're a wizard, Luke" ~Doctor Who
And it had a picture of Spock.


I might know but starlight glimmer’s cutie mark has a part that looks like Twilights cutie mark so what if starlight glimmer‘s cutie mark is basically the opposite of twilight’s crown So yeah that’s all I’m really guessing


Cc's "may the force beam u up" line is how to piss of 7 fandoms at once.


I think the Anti element of Magic should be the Element of Power.<br>Since the good ones have mostly magic, the evil people who absorb it or have it, they might call it Power

I think the Anti element of Magic should be the Element of Power.
Since the good ones have mostly magic, the evil people who absorb it or have it, they might call it Power


I remember watching this when I was little . Rewatching it now , brings back memories.


but we have already seen the 'Elements of Disharmony' (maybe) in 'the return of harmony' when Discord 'corrupts' the mane six right? the liar, the grump, the hoarder, the brute and selfish.  (S.2 Ep.2)

If there was new ones where they are
Cozy Glow:Munipulation
Chrysalis: Liar (because she can change how she looks)
Terik: abuse of power
Irk about the rest

I don't think so. The elements had the same color, even though the main six were corrupted.

Nina Ben-Ami i meaan, Selfishness is broader. Hoarder specifically refers to items, and selfishness can refer to anything else, including ego

Drawing with Leoleeparker21!!! nah, insanity refers to the mental state of a consciousness. Discord is a better term for Disharmony than insanity

@Jennifer Smith maybe the opposite of laughter? the three of them always stuck together so i feel loyalty is a bit ehh

@Sienna Frost The siren's necklaces would be the opposite of loyalty since they cause fighting and feed off of negative energy.

OkAy thiS iS A biT diFFeREnT to WHAt i LAst suGGEsteD bUT;,,
What if the "elements of disharmony" ARE the elements of harmony, hear me out-

As the Brony Notion quotes at 4:18 "in the light, there is a darkness and in the darkness, a light". Simply meaning one cannot exist without the other; 'A shadow is a darkness cast by an object blocking the light. If there were no light, then there could be no shadows'.

MAYBE, the elements of harmony literally mean  "disharmony/bad" and "harmony/good" WORKING together in HARMONY to create forces such as friendship, love, sun/moon, and to protect Equestria.

Its hard to explain everything in one comment, so i'd love to see The Brony Notion do an updated version on this theory!! After all we have learnt so many things now that the show is finished.

@AppleDashFan she has, in episodes like S2 E2, S8 E13, and maybe even S2 E3.

We still need a disharmony element for twilight bc she wasnt turned evil

Did you know that it showed them in the video

Also the elements of disharmony dont have to be 'used for bad'  for example, discord is literally DISCORD, but he is still a good person at heart, meaning well for the main six

@Sienna Frost  thats true,,, however we learn that the elements are not necessarily always bound to a gem, and neither to just one person,  but it is found in people who represent harmony... people who represent disharmony could simply be a group of people who do not work well together, e.g.   Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy glow at the end of the series.

Jade Ho you are right, but we still have no clue on what ARE the gems of the ‘Elements of Disharmony’? Probably this might be it:
Alicorn Amulet- Opposite of Magic
Rarity’s Book- Opposite of Generosity
Sirens’ Necklaces- ???
Im not sure about the others though

Discord is the all of the elements of disharmony

You mean the Liar, the Grump, the Hoarder, the Brute and the Betrayer

@GaRbS i guess we know now that, the bearers represent the elements.

Simply..... THE ELEMENTS OF INSANITY are the elements of disHarmony right???

The hoarder, is selfish. It's the same thing. I think u mean, betrayer

Those are the bearers, these guys are talking the items themselves.

And when Chrysalis makes the Mean Six. I think that if the Mean Six wore the Elements of Harmony, then they would turn into the Elements of Chaos/Disharmony.


Since the elements of harmony are just symbols as stated in the ending of the end part 2, maybe the elements have the ability to symbolize disharmony if used for the wrong reasons which would explain why Twilight's own element turned Sunset Shimmer into a demon. I think the only reason why the elements didn't work on the mane 6 corrupted by Discord was because they weren't really interested in doing anything with the elements.


I think the evil elements would actually belong to (if they exist)
Cruel : Sombra
Selfish : Flim and flam
Lying : Cozy glow
Disloyal : Tirek
Gloom: Chrysalis
Evil magic: Grogar
(I’m not counting anyone who got reformed)


here’s what i think:
first, the elements of disharmony don’t need to be the exact opposite of the elements of harmony, since what the pillars represent are exactly synonymous with the elements of harmony
second, i think that the elements of disharmony would be jealousy, greed, power, manipulation, fear, and chaos
discord-chaos, cozy glow-manipulation, nightmare moon-jealousy, sombra-fear, chrysalis-greed and tyrek-power


Maybe the Elements of disharmony don't actually represent the exact opposite of the elements of Harmony. They're different, but similar. If it was the opposite then the alicorn amulet should have used the opposite of magic (whatever that may be).

Instead, they still represent the same elements, but they're taken to the extreme to the point that they become a force for Evil.

It would explain why Trixie was instead using magic for evil instead of for good like Twilight. And when Rarity used that book, she thought she was still being generous, but it was taken to the extreme, to the point that she was forcing her wants on others.


I have a theory to match ‘Five missing elements of Disharmony’….. in the first episode, there are five elements found first. With Disharmony, everything will probably be different including how many are missing. The alicorn amulet was the only supposed element of Disharmony known. With the elements of harmony, there are five that are known. What I’m basically saying is :
Five missing elements of Disharmony - 1 known.
One missing element of Harmony - 5 known.
If they are opposites on other things, it makes sense for this to just be another ‘spark’ prophecy.


I love how 5/6 of the bearers have some kind of connections or relationship with the original harmony element bearer.


You know how after Sombra kapowed the harmony tree the spirit of harmony began showing up, well The Brony Notion did a video after this one saying Discord is the parallel to the harmony spirit as he represents chaos. Wouldn't it then make sense if there was a chaos tree of some sorts that was destroyed and Discord is the released spirit. The tree would've probably been destroyed a little before Celestia and Luna first banish Discord as they haven't seen him before. In addition, one could say that teh different animals discord is made up of are the species of teh chaos element barers . It'd make sense because the barers would work independently so discord is like a blend of them whereas twilight best represents all her friends qualities combined so the tree of harmony took her form.


Elements of Harmony to Disharmony are :
Magic-Evil Magic
Generosity-Selfishness
Kindness-Mean-ness?
Honesty-Liying
Loyalty-Faithlessness
Laughter-Sadnees

Yor Welcome

@eunahjang Actually, I think it would be known as wrath

Kindness would be rudeness or hatred I think


dark doesn't always mean evil, its just dark. plus the elements of disharmony could be used by some of the protagonists as long as they embody the element


Actually, in the comics, there's another reality that balances Equestria by having all the characters on the opposite side (Sombra is good, Celestia is evil,...) so if the elements of disharmony exists, they'd rather be there.


I like to imagine that when the elements of disharmony fight each other their power grows.


I think friendship and teamwork, the kind of stuff that make evildoers unstoppable, would transform the elements of disharmony, because that's part of harmony! Even if they knew that they would be stronger together, they would probably also know that the power in those gems would dissolve if they used harmony to create disharmony.🤔


Maybe the elements of disharmony are trapped inside the elements of harmony and celestia and Luna thought that it would be safe since the barriers of the elements kept them safe

Bloodmoon and Midnight I have another idea! Maybe the elements of disharmony weren’t trapped in the elements but their power was.So the necklace that she bought didn’t have any power until Nightmare Moon broke it.Maybe I’m just being stupid....

Oh! And then, when Nigthmare moon broke them, she released the elements of disharmoni! Because she would remember that they captured them when she was still Luna! That makes sense!<br>(I think)

Oh! And then, when Nigthmare moon broke them, she released the elements of disharmoni! Because she would remember that they captured them when she was still Luna! That makes sense!
(I think)


The alicorn ambulet: element of corruption magic
Rarity's spell book: the element of selfishness
Siren' necklace: the first one dishonesty second unhappiness third greed


I think Discord is the "counterweight" for the elements of harmony.<br>He is the spirit of disharmony, the embodiment of chaos.

I think Discord is the "counterweight" for the elements of harmony.
He is the spirit of disharmony, the embodiment of chaos.


What if the elements of harmony could be turned into the elements of disharmony and back, but only the most powerful ponies could do it, like the alicorns, and what if the were turned into the elements of disharmony centuries ago and before they turned them back they used them to create dark magic items to keep the balance in the future and to keep the elements of harmony good.And what if starsworld the bearded translated ancient texts talking about alicorns, but he couldn’t figure out how to bring alicorns back and didn’t figure it out until clover the clever told him about her experience in the cave with the three leaders and their helpers.


I have a theory of my own but may not be canon:

Have you ever heard of My Little Pony the Movie? Yes, I watched it too. And after I watched it, as a gift, my relatives gave me a comic book; My Little Pony: The Prequel. I was intrigued by the book, it was entertaining, but I now realize...
THAT THIS BOOK CONTAINED ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF DISHARMONY
Basically, the book revolved around this green jewel necklace called the ‘Misfortune Malachite’. It caused misfortune, suffering, and destruction to whoever held it. It was stolen from the castle of (I forget) and taken by the Storm King. The king and queen warned him of it’s power, but he didn’t listen and took it anyway, leaving the kingdom in ruins. This is also where Capper sneaks onto one of his ships. And so, the story progresses, changing the owners of the jewel, from Storm King, to Capper, then finally, to Tempest. This specific chapter shows Tempest decided to team up with the Storm King and him taking back the malachite.
If you read this far and are interested yourself, please, go purchase My Little Pony the Movie: Prequel for yourself and see that this IS one of the Elements of Disharmony, most likely the opposite of laughter, misfortune. Or it may be the opposite of generosity. WHATEVER. Just thank you for reading this far. Have a nice day.

I have a theory of my own but may not be canon:

Have you ever heard of My Little Pony the Movie? Yes, I watched it too. And after I watched it, as a gift, my relatives gave me a comic book; My Little Pony: The Prequel. I was intrigued by the book, it was entertaining, but I now realize...
*THAT THIS BOOK CONTAINED ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF DISHARMONY*
Basically, the book revolved around this green jewel necklace called the ‘Misfortune Malachite’. It caused misfortune, suffering, and destruction to whoever held it. It was stolen from the castle of (I forget) and taken by the Storm King. The king and queen warned him of it’s power, but he didn’t listen and took it anyway, leaving the kingdom in ruins. This is also where Capper sneaks onto one of his ships. And so, the story progresses, changing the owners of the jewel, from Storm King, to Capper, then finally, to Tempest. This specific chapter shows Tempest decided to team up with the Storm King and him taking back the malachite.
If you read this far and are interested yourself, please, go purchase My Little Pony the Movie: Prequel for yourself and see that this *IS* one of the Elements of Disharmony, most likely the opposite of laughter, misfortune. Or it may be the opposite of generosity. WHATEVER. Just thank you for reading this far. Have a nice day.


Ok, so this is a good theory but I have another one for you. Twilights element can work alone in the human world so I think it is the same with Trixies alicon thing. All of the element of disharmony are at Crystal Prep, and that neckalce somehow got into Equestria. It is the “leading” neckalce so it can work alone. And since the main one is in Equestria all of the other ones are useless.


In the first 2 episodes of season 2, when the ponies go through the maze, them and their elements turn into the elements of disharmony, they become opposites😯


Also I say the the crown sunset wore was the element of evil magic, the book from Rarity is the element of greed, the a alicorn amulet is the element of cruelty, the main sirens gem is the element of boredom, the left siren gem is the element of lyingness, and the right siren is the element of betrayal.


Puts a photo of Dumbledore on the screen

Me: Breaks into song: SNAPE SNAPE SEVERUS SNAPE DUMBLEDORE!

*Puts a photo of Dumbledore on the screen*

Me: Breaks into song: *SNAPE SNAPE SEVERUS SNAPE DUMBLEDORE!*

I like that song but whats it to do with mlp dobbyyyyyyyy 😂

@Hudd I don’t use it, nor have the app. I just like the style, also thats your opinion. In my heart, the song will always be memorable and funny.


So, what is the element Trixie had, and why did it seem to distort her mind unlike the elements of harmony?

Also wouldn't the opposite of friendship magic be not evil magic, but animosity magic?

elements of disharmony would probably destort your mind, well it's possible The elements of Harmony bring your mind and focus.

Also I agree with the second part

@Ciannait Owens Deane What does the elements of harmony do that can be thought of as the opposite of mind altering the user?

Phesheya Bhembe the reason it did that is it is the oppasite to the elements of harmony so does the oppasite to the ponys .


Here’s my theory: both the elements of harmony and disharmony exist, but as one physical item. If an element of harmony was worn by the bearer of the corresponding element of disharmony, it would either turn into or be used as an element of disharmony. Like what happened when sunset wore twilight’s crown


now you need to rework this theory with Starswirl’s tree of harmony in mind. i feel like this could create a good head canon since nothing can disprove it now


I think one of the elements of disharmony is  king sombra's necklace armor jewel thing on his chest and he may have been good but it may have corrupted him


Well, yeah, Twilights element did turn Sunset Shimmer into something awful… but that’s only because she didn’t use it the way it was meant to be. The crown itself realized her true intentions and THATS what turned her into the demon she became.


Raritys book=lust makes more sense because the more rarity wanted something the more it took over oppite of genorosity
Sirens jewels=wrath they spread there wrath of anger through equestria and then the jewles absorbed all of that wrath oppiste of kindness
Alicorn amulet=Pride not evil magic trixie got more powerful the more pride she had and the minute she had loads of pride her eyes glowed red oppiste of magic
Those are the crystals by can replace them all
Oppiste of honesty is greed because they wont stop at nothing untl they get what they want even if it mean being dishonest and this flows perfectly with flim and flams charcter
Oppiste of loyalty is sloth not caring to anyhting at all
Oppiste of laghter is gluttony somebody who is a glutton for no laghter
As you said jewles can hold magic but with raritys book or any of the other elemnts of disharmony they have to be summoned


If the whole point of the elements of disharmony is to be opposites of the elements of harmony then maybe just maybe they will be totally opposite.

If the elements of harmony Exits

And the elements of disharmony are opposites of them ....

Then they probably don’t exist either


I highly doubt the elements of disharmony could be used: they involve elements of disharmony (duh) which includes the inability to actually cooperate. If they could be used, it would be individually, with each causing a specific sort of damage, maybe Betrayal/Disloyalty being able to scatter groups of tightly bonded friends, or anger to cause chaos in groups.

The elements of disharmony would negate each other in the same way that the elements of harmony reinforce each other. Kind like matter and antimatter.


What if the Nightmare Moon VS. Celestia battle was different than what was showed?<br>Instead of Nightmare Moon being stronger than Celestia, she was using the elements of disharmony against her. Celestia then would use the elements of harmony to banish Celestia to the moon. When Nightmare Moon returns, she doesn't show the elements directly but she still has them; but when she is destroyed, so are the elements of disharmony; except the Alicorn Amulet, of course.

What if the Nightmare Moon VS. Celestia battle was different than what was showed?
Instead of Nightmare Moon being stronger than Celestia, she was using the elements of disharmony against her. Celestia then would use the elements of harmony to banish Celestia to the moon. When Nightmare Moon returns, she doesn't show the elements directly but she still has them; but when she is destroyed, so are the elements of disharmony; except the Alicorn Amulet, of course.


Also, there is always an opposite universe. For example: when you decided to eat cereal instead of a donut for breakfast, there is a universe where you ate that donut for breakfast. So in another universe, the elements of disharmony do exist and are used very often and the elements of harmony are still to be fully discovered.

Also, there is *always* an opposite universe. For example: when you decided to eat cereal instead of a donut for breakfast, there is a universe where you ate that donut for breakfast. So in another universe, the elements of disharmony *do* exist and are used very often and the elements of harmony are still to be fully discovered.

`Aryuki` yh that could exist as there is an human alternative world

@Yuri Gacha-San LAUGHS

In the alternative universe, they would've said that you hated them.

@Yuri Gacha-San *LAUGHS*

In the alternative universe, they would've said that you hated them.

@Yuri Gacha-San in that dimension, they love you.

@EnderX oh my gosh, so in a different dimension I hate gacha?! I HATE MY ALTERNATIVE SELF

Like the dimension that I hate gacha and that my boyfriend is my enemy


I believe that the elements of disharmony were shown in season 8 episode 13. when queen chrysalis turns trees into the main 6 they resemble the complete opposite of the elements of harmony so maybe they were the spirits of disharmony in the form of the main six?


Well of course the elements of disharmony(probably) exist! If nightmare moon was able to make a dark version of the wonderbolts, then she could create a dark version of the elements,right? And plus there was an episode for each pony where they weren't acting like their element but that episode is also the episode that they get the relic that turns into a key in season 4. So the elements of disharmony probably do exist as mentioned in the video,there are dark relics that turn a character evil like Trixie and the alicorn stone thingy or the book that gave rarity all of those speels to make things "pretty" etc. BUT HEY THAT'S JUST A THEORY, A FILM THEORY


Is it possible that discord may have transformed some of his magic into the necklace that trixie had used,I mean, discord is still the spirit of disharmony,right?<br>Tough its now a long time later,the bell that tirek,cozy glow and crysalis used might be one sign of the disharmony?

Is it possible that discord may have transformed some of his magic into the necklace that trixie had used,I mean, discord is still the spirit of disharmony,right?
Tough its now a long time later,the bell that tirek,cozy glow and crysalis used might be one sign of the disharmony?


I’m genuinely upset that the show didn’t even suggest the idea that the elements of disharmony. <br>They could’ve done a season where they have to try and find the evil elements

I’m genuinely upset that the show didn’t even suggest the idea that the elements of disharmony.
They could’ve done a season where they have to try and find the evil elements


I think they may have existed at one point, but were destroyed and the spirit of disharmony from the anti elements manifested into discord


SEASON NINE UPDATE
Hi, just thought I'd give my two cents on the bearers themselves, I was never too sure on the element items themselves...
As Twilight said in the end, the physical elements were just symbols! Here's the two sides of the coin in my opinion

ELEMENTS OF HARMONY
The Pillars — Mane 6 — Student 6
Strength — Honesty — Determination | Yona
Bravery — Loyalty — Reliability | Smolder
Beauty — Generosity — Initiative | Ocellus
Healing — Kindness — Empathy | Gallus
Hope — Laughter — Joy/Optimism | Silverstream
Sorcery — Magic — Unity | Sandbar
(Gallus was the first kind Griffin we know of and Sandbar brought them together to the castle of the two sisters to be together)

ELEMENTS OF DISHARMONY
Mane 6 - disharmony element | embodiment
Laughter - Misery | Chrysalis
Generosity - Avarice | Tirek
Honesty - Deception | Cozy Glow
Loyality - Betrayal | Tantabus [Nightmare Moon]
Kindness - Cruelty | King Sombra
Magic - Power | Grogar

You're welcome.

_SEASON NINE UPDATE_
Hi, just thought I'd give my two cents on the bearers themselves, I was never too sure on the element items themselves...
As Twilight said in the end, the physical elements were just symbols! Here's the two sides of the coin in my opinion

*_ELEMENTS OF HARMONY_*
*The Pillars — Mane 6 — Student 6*
Strength — Honesty — Determination | Yona
Bravery — Loyalty — Reliability | Smolder
Beauty — Generosity — Initiative | Ocellus
Healing — Kindness — Empathy | Gallus
Hope — Laughter — Joy/Optimism | Silverstream
Sorcery — Magic — Unity | Sandbar
(Gallus was the first kind Griffin we know of and Sandbar brought them together to the castle of the two sisters to be together)

*_ELEMENTS OF DISHARMONY_*
*Mane 6 - disharmony element | embodiment*
Laughter - Misery | Chrysalis
Generosity - Avarice | Tirek
Honesty - Deception | Cozy Glow
Loyality - Betrayal | Tantabus [Nightmare Moon]
Kindness - Cruelty | King Sombra
Magic - Power | Grogar

You're welcome.


I don't think there are elements of "disharmony" because "disharmony" goes by a more common name... Discord, literally defined as "a lack of Harmony". He is the spirit of chaos incarnate. Therefore, unlike the Elements of Harmony, which needs multiple individuals to come together, harmoniously, he best preforms alone.


Rewatching this now with the show ending I gots a theory u-u
I think it's possible for the elements of disharmony to exist. However there should be certain things that have to happen like the elements of harmony and how they were created.
Let's start with the tree of harmony. It was planted and therefore boom the elements were born. But maybe those that are corrupt could do the same just with dark power. Obviously-
Next we have the question 'who would represent the dark elements?' Well it's simple. Grogar's little squad will take 5 of them:
Grogar - Power (as he lead them all and wanted destruction of the mane 6)
Chrysalis - Cruelty (she was mean to pretty much everyone like her hive sometimes and the mane 6)
Cozy - Dishonesty (as she lied to everyone as we know)
Tirek - Greed (he wants magic for himself right?)
Sombra - Betrayed (this is because he was reluctant to work together and only focused on himself)
But obviously that's only five. What about the sixth? Who will take that role?
So basically I don't think it'll be discord. At the end of the show it seems he's been fully reformed or so it seems. However it couldn't have been him as if it was by now discord would've gotten some sort of punishment you'd think.
So who is the replacement you wonder?
Someone that's good.
Yeah that's right. Maybe someone like the mane 6 or the princesses will become corrupt and aid the darker side. If not do this on purpose. Why I think that is simple. It seems to be very easy for someone to undergo a switchero from good to bad. Like how easy it was for the vines to kidnap celestia and luna. If it's taken the smallest event like starlight's past just because of one tiny thing it won't mean it'll cause damage.
I don't think the designs will even look the same for the villains cus the elements we know of represent the mane 6's cutie marks. But this cannot follow the same trend for the new elements as most of the villains don't even have cutie marks. So instead it'll focus more on personality instead in my opinion.

Idk ;-;


We all know generosity is Rarity, and what I the opposite of generosity? Greed. That's why I think the book Rarity had found WAS an element of disharmony.


this is a video i keep coming back to for osme reason. i don't think that, if the elements of disharmony (i like to call them elements of dissonance) were to exist, they'd be PURELY evil - i think it comes from a misconception. the elements of harmony aren't 100% good and any of them in excess can be bad, that's why they need the others to 'harmonize' with to keep them in check:
too much kindness can leave you vulnerable (which is why fluttershy had her whole arc about learning to assert herself when needed)
too much generosity can make you forget to take care of yourself, living for others and not you (which i believe is why they chose rarity for it, as she's already confident)
loyalty is only as good as whoever you're loyal to, and it's easy to lose yourself in it (without reaching to any tasteless real-world examples, wouldn't you say the pre-reformed changelings were extremely loyal to the hive? thorax (and you) were the exception, not the rule)
honesty in excess can lead to easily hurt feelings, i think we all know someone who's a jerk and justifies it as 'i'm just being honest'
laughter can be innapropiate in certain moments, and can be downright mean sometimes (evil villain laugh?)
and as we know, magic can go both ways. we've seen both twilight and midnight sparkle.

i think if there's elements of disharmony, they would have to be opposite, yet similar - not 100% bad, but something that is bad in excess but good in small amounts. magic would be the same, of course, but i would hitnk they wouldn't just go for the seven sins either? just food for thought.
also, given that the pillars of equestria had their own "elements" (sorcery, beauty, healing, hope, determination and bravery) it's not out of the question that they could be multiple sets


The Elements of Disharmony are real. Celestia and Luna destroyed their physical forms, but the spirits of the elements of disharmony were transferred into the elements of harmony yet the elements of harmony overpowered them and they lay dormant until something brings out the disharmony in the bearers. Evidence: the return of harmony.


The elements of harmony came from the tree of harmony and discord is the opposite of harmony. So from what I've heard discord who'd have to create the elements of disharmony. At least in a fiscal form like the tree did. But it doesn't matter because the power doesn't come from the gemstone there just catalysts for there power of harmony and/or disharmony. So I think the disharmony there is true but that may not have a fiscal form or they may have been destroyed so it's also possible that the Alicorn amulet is one of them


Ok so here's what I got, the red amulet thing is the OPPOSITE of the elements of harmony, so of there is a spell that makes a dark light if you do it in a room the other ones will appear. But just a thought.


The amulet is a combo of loyalty and generosity from the shape and colours


The owners the opposite elements are versions of the mane 6, perhaps even opposite colours.


I re watched this, and, didn't this already happened?
When chrysalis and her army wanted to take revenge, the changelings, took the forms of the mane six, including spike.
Although it wasn't the mane six who fought the changelings, it was starlight, discord, and Trixie.

I also remember another episode, where the mane six are separated, and was found by the other mane six, but complete opposite. Rarity, instead of being generous, was possible of a rock she found.

Did I make sense?
Also, I'm a fan!
I'm just commenting what I thought of.


Diamond Tiara being the element of cruelty and Blueblood being selfishness seems pretty accurate to me


My theory: so if you get the alicorn amulet you create a dark spark and so the other amulets appear in other places in equestria.

LEAVE MAUD OUT OF THIS!!!! She's flat not sad. Her monatone is not a sad thing. Sometimes I TALK LIKE THAT!!!!! I'm not sad. Sometimes a voice Is just..... ---------- like that. And she loves ... sorry I just think someone else should be gloom... HUUUUUUUU = sound of inhale btw. .. TROUBLE SHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's perfect! !!

yet we haven't heard of or seen any of them in the slightest

Sarah and Sadie I have something to add the elements would all be hidden such as rarity’s book would turn into a amulet for selfishness

Thats works out....but who would have the power to do that? MY Theory is that maybe Twi-Sparks turns evil and she uses the Alicorn Amulet to make Fluttershy, Pinkie Pie, Rainbow Dash,Rarity and Applejack EVIL too! And casts the same spell on the Elements of Harmony.

Maybe the alicorn amulet is all the amulets in one

Good theory. I read dark spank and was so confused.

sarah and sadie, that is really smart!!!!!!!!


I don't think spitfire deserves a reputation being the element of betrayal. she actually works hard to make all her students elite flyers. and maud may have no personality, (no offence) she doesn't deserve the element of hate. because even though she is super dull, and has no expression, she loves her sister, and her family. she doesn't hate everything like an element of hate would. and diamond tiara got reformed, so she doesn't disserve her element either, but I agree with everything else


This is incredibly late, but I feel like the elements of disharmony do exist, but not in the physical matter as the ones of harmony do. I feel it’s also necessary to be told that I’m not even caught up to the finale of g4, but I’d still like to try and share my input.
Proven by later videos, the disharmony elements wouldn’t have been made into gems in the first place for reasons not said in this particular video. I think that the bearers of the elements of harmony (mane 6), are also the bearers of disharmony. My reasoning is because the opposites of what they stand for are the ones most often used to tempt them. In addition to this, is that the balance based argument in this video would be supported. Because the mane 6’s elements are so closely tied to them, it makes sense that they would also have the internal struggle of staying on the harmony side. The balance is already off, so the temptation is trying to get the mane 6 to be equal in both harmony and disharmony. So basically, opposites attract, always fighting for equilibrium. Thus, my reasoning that go for this theory. But, in the end that’s all it really is: a theory. A GAME HORSE THEORY— okay I’m sorry I had to.

This is incredibly late, but I feel like the elements of disharmony do exist, but not in the physical matter as the ones of harmony do. I feel it’s also necessary to be told that I’m not even caught up to the finale of g4, but I’d still like to try and share my input.
Proven by later videos, the disharmony elements wouldn’t have been made into gems in the first place for reasons not said in this particular video. I think that the bearers of the elements of harmony (mane 6), are also the bearers of disharmony. My reasoning is because the opposites of what they stand for are the ones most often used to tempt them. In addition to this, is that the balance based argument in this video would be supported. Because the mane 6’s elements are so closely tied to them, it makes sense that they would also have the internal struggle of staying on the harmony side. The balance is already off, so the temptation is trying to get the mane 6 to be equal in both harmony and disharmony. So basically, opposites attract, always fighting for equilibrium. Thus, my reasoning that go for this theory. But, in the end that’s all it really is: a theory. A -GAME- HORSE THEORY— okay I’m sorry I had to.


Interesting ways for the elements of disharmony to be a way for Gen 5 to explain why they are separated.


Watching back to these videos after season 8 i have a new theory for this. The elements of disharmony do exist but inside the elements of harmony hense why sunset shimmer was turned into a raging she demon because the element of disharmony magic was activated by her evil spirit we see this when the mean 6 perform the oposite actions of the elements of harmony around the elements of harmony


The elements of disharmony are real because on season 2 (first 2  episodes) Discord gave them the elements of harmony which was fake. The real one was at Twilights tree house. Also Discord is the spirit of not just cheos but also disharmony

Yeah! The fake elements turned them into their opposites too! But then again, queen chrysalis made fake versions of the ponies and they were the exact opposite, so yeah.

Princess Cadence that’s what I was thinking


I think the disharmony version of magic is power.<br>Cozy glow has proved that. Friendship is magic but if it fallen into the wrong hand, it become power

I think the disharmony version of magic is power.
Cozy glow has proved that. Friendship is magic but if it fallen into the wrong hand, it become power


I think the other five elements of disharmony were destroyed by Starswirl or something, but they lost the Alicorn Amulet. Or maybe the siren's necklaces are fragments of one of the elements....


Would this mean, if one were to be destroyed, it's counter part would get stronger 🤔? And what would happen if the element USER wore BOTH at once?


“May the forse beam you up, Katniss” <br>Im getting that hung up somewhere in my house hold on..

“May the forse beam you up, Katniss”
Im getting that hung up somewhere in my house hold on..


The Alicorn Amulet Had The Power Of An Alicorn, Of Course It'd Be Hard To Destroy.

Sombra's Horn: The Element Of Fear

The Alicorn Amulet: The Element Of Power

Grogar's Bell: The Element Of Greed

Rarity's Book: The Element Of Selfishness

The Siren's Necklaces: The Element Of Manipulation

(There could be more items, You can reply if you think another item could fit into this :D)


I'm about to go on a rant, so get prepared for a lot of reading. I kind of hopped on this theory about there being an elements of disharmony. I don't really understand the origins that much, but there is still some kind of the opposite of the main 6 here. On season 2 episode 2 discord reverse the main six, They all become themselves but opposite. Everything ends up fine in the end, but this is not the only time we've seen this. Season 8 episode 13 Chrysalis did just about the same thing but in a different way. She used a picture and a lock of their hair to summon the "mean 6". Chrysalis is version is all the same to discord's except twilight, but that can be easily explained. Twilight from season 2 to season 8 has developed more, as in twilight is now a princess, and twilight is an alicorn (as in a stronger and more powerful). So it's kind of is plausible that there could be a"mean 6", or elements of disharmony. Just wanted to bring that to light☺!


Hold up. There was the Alicorn Amulet only right? With five other elements missing? When the Elements Of Harmony where introduced in the first season, one, the element of Magic, was missing. The other five were there. Coincidence?


Hmm a little opinion
The element of magic in the first EQ movie turned Sunset into a she demon because she was filled with negative emotions and evilness. But the Crystal's magic was different towards Twilight because her intentions are pure.

So IMO if the elements of harmony went to the wrong evil hands the magic in it will turn dark

Idk does this make sense??


Well... sunset shimmer was reformed and Diamond tiara learned the power of friendship and learned that her cutie mark wasn't what she thought


Here what I think
Dark magic - sunrise dull.
Gloom- greyie cake
Disloyalty - solid slow
Greed- Commonity
Dishonesty- Orangejill
Cruelty- rushoutgping
All of these are characters I came up with. They would be inverted in colors.


I wanted to tell you, don't you all know that Diamond Tiara and Sunset Shimmer are reformed? They can't fit the chain and become the bearers. Neither can Spitfire. So, here is the updated version of the bearers.
Betrayal - Lightning Dust
Cruelty - Sombra
Evil Magic - The Dazzlings
Just a Hunch.


They could reform in season 9. So all I know is Grogar is evil magic!


The alicorn amulet might be the element of greed because it has a rhombus crystal shape just like rarity’s and greed is the opposite of generosity


i think the “mean six” episode already showed us that there is the element of disharmony. Imagine if the mean six get the elements of harmony，they really could turn into the elements of disharmony，right？


But if The elements of harmony was created by the tree of Harmony, planted by the pillars, how was the Element of disharmony created? Was there a tree of disharmony?


I've just had a brilliant idea.<br>What if, because of the balance, the Element of magic would have been imbetween. As in, if the Element was infused with a good heart, it would be harmonious. Yet, when infused with a dark/evil heart, it would cause disharmony, which is why sunset turned into a 'raging she-demon'!

I've just had a brilliant idea.
What if, because of the balance, the Element of magic would have been imbetween. As in, if the Element was infused with a good heart, it would be harmonious. Yet, when infused with a dark/evil heart, it would cause disharmony, which is why sunset turned into a 'raging she-demon'!


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Okxy_Avery but what if Hasbro is DUN DUN DUUUUNNN

Yeah but come on wouldn't you want to see theses in the real episodes??😅

oh god i don't know but we can find it lol

Well some one should<br>any one know how to contact hasbro

Well some one should
any one know how to contact hasbro

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My Theory-<br>Discord is the creation of the elements of disharmony and the only reason the alicorn amulet survived in a sence is because it's more powerful then the others!

My Theory-
Discord is the creation of the elements of disharmony and the only reason the alicorn amulet survived in a sence is because it's more powerful then the others!


realistic but it does kind of remind me of the 7 deadly sins i think wwhat if the 5 elements of disharmony  based more around the 7 deadly sins for example lust(getting love without returning it) = chrysalis / trek = greed (or gluttony since he eats magic in a sense) /  cozy glow: envy / nightmare moon=anger/ king sombra= pride/ think about it the elements are generousity loyalty kindness honesty and magic your thinking of more of direct opposite wwhen you think about it greed and gluttony are both the opposite of generousity / envy is the opposite of loyalty (since envy usually leads to betrayal)/ anger/wwraith is the opposite of kindness since kindness is forgiving and wwarm while anger is cold and stubborn (as shown in mending fences when twilight goes to meet old friends only to find one of them holds a grudge and infact shuts herself off) pride is the opposite of honesty (kind of) since usually people will lie to hide their flaws like that time rainbow dash was framed (i forgot who by) but that guy was willing to shame someone else to save his own pride and wwwell as for magic and lust idk but you can see it but another thing that maybe that makes the elements strong is that they can affect other ponies wwho harbor similar feelings wwhich means that even the mane 5 would have trouble due since they arent perfect but i can imagine the elements of harmony can sorta cure but its harder since they dont have a area affect i can also imagine that people harbor these feelings the strongest would also be drawwn to the these elements which is how they find them give me a like or a comment if you think if this is reasonable a dislike or comment if you think im more likely wwrong


Disharmony would be too much dark or to much light. Harmony is balance. So is harmony really good and disharmony really bad? We have already seen harmony literally every single time a villain turns good. Such as luna, discord, starlight glimmer, sunset shimmer, shadow, midnight sparkle, and gloriosa daisy. Where there is bad there is good. The only disharmony I have seen is when queen chrysalis is defeated and the Siren's gems are destroyed. Do you agree?


What if since Princess Celestia used the elements of harmony on NightMare moon, besides Twilight, Princess Celestia is the beholder of the elements of harmony, while NightMare Moon is the beholder of the elements of disharmony?


Good theory and I agree with almost everything, but I don't think that Diamond Tiara should be the element of cruelty just because she was only a filly who teased people. Also, the elements of HARMONY'S wielders are very close with each other and share a special bond. Those ponies have never met each other and hardly share the same intention. Hmm, yes, yes, we have seen dark crystals as well as good cryslals (elements of harmony).  Also, from what I can remember King Sombra's crytstals didn't possess any special powers.

but disharmony is the opposite of harmony, and the opposite of wielders sharing a specila bond is the bearers share no bonds

What your saying about them never meeting,
The elements of disharmony would be completely opposite of the elements of harmony.
So if the elements of harmony are close. Then the elements of disharmony they would have never met,
Hence the answer to your question

What your saying about them never meeting,
The elements of disharmony would be completely *opposite* of the elements of harmony.
So if the elements of harmony are close. Then the elements of disharmony they would have never met,
Hence the answer to your question

The Campbell Channel it’s a great theory
Season 8 spoilers below!!

In Season 8 Episode 13 “Mean 6” (one of my favorites) Queen Chrysalis makes clones of the mane 6 but in their opposite version! So we saw the tree of Harmony but I think when they hit the tree it was the tree of Harmony that sense in presence of Disharmony and I think it turned a backfire on the mean 6 turning them in wood! My theory no one has to agree lol

The less the group know each other the less they will be able to relate creating more arguments and more disharmony and making the elements stronger. Also most of the time they would be used apart since they are stronger

Pilo 115 Fluttershy is kind and diamond tiara is unkind. So that means that the elements of disharmony is opposite of the elements of harmony!

The them not knowing each other part kind of does make sense, as it’s DISHarmony.

Well, disharmony is basically harmony with opposite rules, since the main 6 are always close, I’d expect that the wielders of disharmony don’t contact eachother that much. But I do agree that Diamond Tiara shouldn’t have the element of cruelty just because she makes fun of others... and she’s starting to be a little bit better personality wise.

What about Maud? She’s a party animal! Why is she gloom?

Hey Camp, that "bond" thing makes sense, doesn't it?

The Campbell Channel Let me give you and example. Sunset and Twilight, Spitfire and Rainbow Dash, FF and Applejack, Maud and Pinkie Pie, and Rarity and Blue Bloods. I honestly don't know how Fluttershy relates to diamond tiara, so Ill let that one slide. All those combinations share at least a connection, and the villian has a faded version of the good version.

The Campbell Channel Well, it is disharmony in can be used invidually

The Campbell Channel Well, it is *disharmony* in can be used *invidually*


btw the allicorn amulet has a diamond on it like rarity's necklace and Trixie was hungry\greedy for power so she would have more power from being away from the others and it representing what she used it for at the time.


Wait a minute, what if one of the elements of disharmony were actually in Rarity's book, and when Spike ate it,
does that mean some villain who heard of such elements and their containers have to journey thru Spike's stomach
to get the book?

Too Gross?


I think these should be the people of the elements of disharmony
Cruelty: Sombra
Betrayal: Crysaliss (Idk how to spell it)
Selfishness: Nightmare Moon
Gloom: [Idk, give some ideas]
Dark magic: Cozy Glow (I think it should be called Darkness)
Deceit:  [Idk, give some ideas]

What about chryssi is deceit, gloom is one of pinkies sisters

Deceit could be gladmane because he tricked all the other ponies at his resort into thinking he is their only friend so they can't drive the resort like it's a playhouse

Cruelty: sombra  deceit: Queen chrysalis ( because she lied to the changelings lol) betrayal: cozy glow  selfishness: blue blood      / Gloom : ( BRO no is as gloomy as maud pie) maud pie.    Evil magic: Daybreaker ( when Celestia is "evil" )

@Olina Lin Yes but Rarity wasn’t generous, Applejack was a liar, Rainbow Dash betrayed her friends, Discord turned each of them to their opposites. So in that case, the mane six is the elements of disharmony.


What if the elements of disharmony are the elements itself, just think about it we seen moments where each pony are the opposite of their elements even though they pull it together in the end, but it would be a good balance. Think about it  the tree of harmony would like to see balance in Equestra its like the ying and yang situation. Rainbow dash has shown disloyality before, Futtershy has been rude before(rarely but ya know), pinkie has been gloomy before, rarity has been selfish before, and applejack has been dishonest before, I don't have much to say on twilight tho cause how can she not show magic? But also remember when discord was evil and made them all opposite, what if he didn't change them he just brought out something that was always there just made it bigger if ya know what I mean, and for twilight well again there wasn't really much of a change it was just she was gloomy and forgot everything she learned about friendship tbh. so yea


Wel, I could debunk the element of evil magic at the start.<br>Sunset shimmer is good now, isint she? So I think that, like the alicorn amulet, trixie should have The element of evil Magic.

Wel, I could debunk the element of evil magic at the start.
Sunset shimmer is good now, isint she? So I think that, like the alicorn amulet, trixie should have The element of evil Magic.


there are some negative energy hidden around equestria. what if the elements of harmony itself, have a few negative energy in it. or maybe finding out more stuff that has bad magic (like rarity's book) may affect the elements of harmony. (example, when sunset shimmer turned into a demon) but plz pick me. i will subscribe if u do (see more stuff in the replies)


If the alicorn amulet is a element of disharmony it would be selfishness witch makes sense since it’s a diamond shape and rarity’s element is also diamond shape witch also means the writers thought that out and could mean they do exist


I would love to see the elements of disharmony


the elements of disharmony are dangerous magic relics but maybe its better to leave them they are too powerful


That is an amazing theory! Of course! Where else would all these stupid, ancient, evil relics come from!?

amber margheim I like the use of the word buggar 😂👌

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The Campbell Channel perhaps some of them are beyond Equestrian borders, Season 8 may touch on this.


I agree with your theory as disharmony or discord isn't really evil just chaotic and harmony isn't totally good just orderly as explianed in the comics and as for that war you were talking about I think that war was between discord the spirit of chaos and his opposite harmony the spirit of order each created by the universe to try to coexist keeping each other in check but every so often one would attack the other unprovoked and when this happened they were each exiled to their own dimensions for a thousand years by the universe like discord would go to his chaos dimenion and harmony her Oder dimension. This would be the norm until one day discord got the upper hand and harmony was shattered and while discord was in exile peaces of harmony fell to equatorial either creating the elements of harmony the princesses or the first pony race explaining why they pretty much worship harmony why friendship is magic and why everyone tries to get along with discord even though he gets on their nerves


What if the sirens’ amulets were the anti generosity (selfishness) element split up to pieces


I think that the Sironses necklaces would make good elements of cruelty, because if the Sirons sang with there necklaces on everyone started to fight


The only candidates for the Elements of Disharmony I can think of are (and this is before Season 5):

Sunset Shimmer: Evil Magic
Discord: Betrayal
Trixie: Deceit
Lightning Dust: Gloom
Queen Chrysalis: Selfishness
Pony of Shadows: Cruelty


I don't think the element of betrayal really suits Spitfire. Yes she did lie about Soarin but she was quick to acknowledge her mistake and she does value loyalty.

Minty The Green Oreo Seri Polomare, I think.  I probably botched the spelling.

+Hell Queen (loser) Or maybe gillda the griffin

Discord deserves the element of betrayal because in the fight with Tirek he betrays the mane 6.

+The Boneless Fighting Maggot Coco Pomell

+marinus18  the Pony from Rarity take manehatten might work, not her minion i forgot her name D:

Windrider seems a more appropriate choice,


Well I disagree with sunset shimmer she is reformed after all so I think the evil magic element should definitely go to chrysalis


In the comic "Of Kings and Changelings" theres acually a tree of disharmony after the alternate weilders of the elements (Chrysalis,Trixie,Derpy,Sunset Shimmer,Gilda,and Maud Pie) defeated the evil version of Cadence to save King Sombra.<br>Go check it out

In the comic "Of Kings and Changelings" theres acually a tree of disharmony after the alternate weilders of the elements (Chrysalis,Trixie,Derpy,Sunset Shimmer,Gilda,and Maud Pie) defeated the evil version of Cadence to save King Sombra.
Go check it out


Well, now we know that the Pillars planted the Tree of Harmony. :/ So why WOULD they plant a seed for the Tree of "Dis-Harmony".


I don't think Maud would be gloom. To me, Gloom is unhappy and miserable, and Maud is just extremely neutral, calm, and unexpressive.


I think the elements of disharmony would be power for magic  tears for laughter greed for generosity betrayal for loyalty cruelty for kindness deciving for honesty.


Here is what I think the ‘Elements of Disharmony’ are (or at least some of them)
Evil Magic : Alicorn Amulet/The gems King Sombra makes
Bearer: Grogar/King Sombra
Greed/Selfishness : Rarity’s Book
Bearer: Blue Blood
Betrayal : Tirek’s Necklace (the one he gave to Discord)
Bearer: Tirek/Lightning Dust/Cozy Glow
Cruelty : Sirens’ Necklace
Bearer: The Sirens
Deceit : ?
Bearer: Flim and Flam
Gloom : ?
Bearer: ?
I’m not sure what else to add or exchange with, so if any of you have any other ideas, please tell me what they are.
I know that MLP has ended, but I would just like to know what any of you guys think. Thanks!

Edit: I would love to add Queen Chrysalis here somewhere, but I don’t know where she fits here.

Here is what I think the ‘Elements of Disharmony’ are (or at least some of them)
*Evil Magic* : Alicorn Amulet/The gems King Sombra makes
Bearer: Grogar/King Sombra
*Greed/Selfishness* : Rarity’s Book
Bearer: Blue Blood
*Betrayal* : Tirek’s Necklace (the one he gave to Discord)
Bearer: Tirek/Lightning Dust/Cozy Glow
*Cruelty* : Sirens’ Necklace
Bearer: The Sirens
*Deceit* : ?
Bearer: Flim and Flam
*Gloom* : ?
Bearer: ?
I’m not sure what else to add or exchange with, so if any of you have any other ideas, please tell me what they are.
I know that MLP has ended, but I would just like to know what any of you guys think. Thanks!

Edit: I would love to add Queen Chrysalis here somewhere, but I don’t know where she fits here.


The element of cruelty would actually belong to cozy glow because diamond tiara changed same thing with sunset so the element of evil magic would belong to to teric or king sombra


my theory is that if the elements of disharmony exist they are the hearts of windigos.  Windigos appeared when the pony tribes much conflict and hated each other. When the leaders and their number 2's were in the cave and the fire heart was created the windigos were gone but because hate is inevitable so the elements of disharmony were all thats left.<br>The elements of disharmony were scattered to the edges of equestria and beyond.

my theory is that if the elements of disharmony exist they are the hearts of windigos.  Windigos appeared when the pony tribes much conflict and hated each other. When the leaders and their number 2's were in the cave and the fire heart was created the windigos were gone but because hate is inevitable so the elements of disharmony were all thats left.
The elements of disharmony were scattered to the edges of equestria and beyond.


if Maud Pie was the element of Gloom,
than wouldn't she be fighting her sister?
and she's the oppisite of her sister's element.


Element of evil magic? How about the element of science? And Clarke’s third law?


I think the main villains might be the element of disharmony
Magic- nightmare moon
Generosity- crystalist
Honesty- flimflam
Loyalty- cozyglow
Kindness- triek (cause he could of made friends with ponies as his brother but didn't)
Laughter- I don't have one yet so you can say in the comments


Princess luna: guilt
Queen crysalis: deceit
Maud pie: gloom
Cozyglow: Betrayal
Lord tirek: selfishness
King sombra: evil magic


I think that the alicorn amulet was broken  into 3, and celestia cast it into the equestria .The sirens found them them.

no bc the gems are a piece of there scales


After seeing sunset shimmer turn into a she demon i believe that there is no harmony or dishormony element at all let me explain we saw twilight turn into a powerful pony but more powerful help of her friends but sunset shimmer turned into a she demon why by a element harmony somehow it has disharmony in it . it  means that the powerful gem's magic depends on wearer 's intentions like sunset shimmer 's intentions were evil but twiligth's intention's were good


I agree with you but not maud, sunset, spitfire

Maud: she shows happiness but in a different way, she is happy but she doesn’t smile

Sunset: I would agree with you ONLY if she was still mean/evil, she is now nice now, you can look at equestrian girls forgotten friendship

Spit fire: I’m just confused, why would she be the element of betrayal???


The Elements of Disharmony theriosey by me! 1. They would have diffrent shaped gems EXAMPLE Dishonesty wouldn't have an Apple, but something to do with the bearer's cutie mark, not Applejack's. 2. Like you said, Discord could have been created because the Tree of Harmony was planted. So, with this therioy, the Elements of Disharmoney were created to oppose The Elements!


I can’t believe this hasn’t been brought up in the show


Can you make an updated version of this please :D <3


I wish Lauren Faust notice your theories they are masterpiece!


My theory is that Nightmare Moon created the elements of disharmony, except for the  alicorn amulet and the crown or the spirits of the elements were in the people mentioned all along


Why should there be 6 elements of disharmony? <br>There could be also only be 1 element of disharmony. I mean harmony is the opposite of disharmony. More is the opposite of less.

Why should there be 6 elements of disharmony?
There could be also only be 1 element of disharmony. I mean harmony is the opposite of disharmony. More is the opposite of less.


Is it bad that when CC said "just a theory" I wanted to shout "A GAME THEORY"? ._.

I love that channel, but I don't do that, being that I'm one of the few who doesnt, I'm the weird one.

+Valerie Willham  I shouted " A FILM THEORY"

I did that... hahah... ahh I'm a nerd

_.

I shouted it out. My mom said "What's a game theory?".

+Valerie Willham dude i was hoping they would say "its just a theory...a PONY theory"!!!

You watched brooks how EWW Big hero 6 didn't you?


I honestly thought trixy would own the evil magic thing,I honestly forgot sunset was in mlp 😂


Element of Magic
Element of Kindness
Element of honesty
Element of generosity
Element of laughter
Element of loyalty

Element of evil
Element of cruelty
Element of lies
Element of greed
Element of gloom
Element of disloyalty


I know this was WAY before that, but Cozy Glow is THE REAL element of betray<br>Edit: she could also be the element of evil magic, due to her knowlage about magic and teamwork

I know this was WAY before that, but Cozy Glow is THE REAL element of betray
Edit: she could also be the element of evil magic, due to her knowlage about magic and teamwork


I think discord would be the mane one incharge of elements of disharmony, another would have to be sombra with dark magic and slavery, tirek for greed (would also explain why he and discord know each other), maby crystalis with dishonesty, the shadow pony that took over luna would be opposite of joy, the pony of shadows betrayal<br>Well that's what I think I mean the mane 6 elements of harmony mane villains elements of disharmony makes sense

I think discord would be the mane one incharge of elements of disharmony, another would have to be sombra with dark magic and slavery, tirek for greed (would also explain why he and discord know each other), maby crystalis with dishonesty, the shadow pony that took over luna would be opposite of joy, the pony of shadows betrayal
Well that's what I think I mean the mane 6 elements of harmony mane villains elements of disharmony makes sense


I believe there should be balance in your social life you can't spend every second being social you'd stress yourself out or burn out but you also can't spend all day alone with your thoughts it leads to loneliness and suicidal thoughts in some cases


I read the title as "could the elements of DISH harmony exist?"


but IF there were the elements of disharmony that would be to much chaos because discord was made because the tree of harmony was made so there would have had to been even more of an equal amount of harmony to make the elements of disharmony.


What if instead of there being separate elements of disharmony, the same elements of harmony WHERE the elements of disharmony? Like since Apple Jack is always honest, if she where to lie her element would transform into the element of deseat ? Or if reraty  where to think only of her self her element would turn into greed? And even in one epasode, with discord the first time he was menchond the main five had turned into they're oppasits! And I apologise for my bad spelling but I just thought of this! And since the old elements like hope brevary and straing and all the others since they could turn into lighter loyelty honesty why couldn't they too turn into weakness cowerdness and hopelessness?


what about Starlight's staff? The one that took everyone's cutie marks? And discords necklace? and didn't nightmare moon have the moon relic on her armor?


Do the
Does elements of insanity exists as well?
I really wanna know
Pretty please


You’re forgetting about grow Guard . Grow grack was the first one to find a questionnaire


Well makes sense because harmony <b>can’t</b> exist without evil somewhere. Ex. : Raava and Vatu from The Legend Of Korra.

Well makes sense because harmony *can’t* exist without evil somewhere. Ex. : Raava and Vatu from The Legend Of Korra.


How about starlight glimmer instead of sunset shimmer as the element of evil magic? Ehhhh?!?

they would share the power well because think about it........

Yeah makes more sense or maybe selfishness cuz she wanted to live ruling over all of equestria by taking their cutiemarks.

@Jokernui Yeah, that's a good take on it.

@TheNoobIncorporated I always thought that it wasn't so much that Starlight Glimmer didn't believe in friendship, but that she believed in it too much and had a skewed understanding of what it was.

@geekqueen2010 There are four counterarguments to that, but I don't know which one to take, so here's all three:
1.As Shelby Isawesome said, Starlight Glimmer doesn't believe in friendship.
2. In the first episode, I'm fairly certain they said the element was the element of magic
3. I thought she was the princess of friendship and the element of magic
4. the title of the show is "friendship is magic", which makes the two pretty much interchangeable in regard's to Twilight.

@TheNoobIncorporated For your information, since Twilight's element is the Element of <b>Friendship</b> (NOT magic) the corresponding Element of Disharmony/Chaos can not be "evil magic" at all. It has to be the Element of Feuding. Secondly, Sunset Shimmer would have been perfect for the Element of Feuding since it was her fault that the human Mane 6 were not friends when Twilight first went to their school. Sadly though, since Sunset Shimmer reformed she's now more representative of the Element of Redemption than the Element of Feuding.

@TheNoobIncorporated For your information, since Twilight's element is the Element of *Friendship* (NOT magic) the corresponding Element of Disharmony/Chaos can not be "evil magic" at all. It has to be the Element of Feuding. Secondly, Sunset Shimmer would have been perfect for the Element of Feuding since it was her fault that the human Mane 6 were not friends when Twilight first went to their school. Sadly though, since Sunset Shimmer reformed she's now more representative of the Element of Redemption than the Element of Feuding.

True cause sunset shimmer knows what friendship is from rainbow rocks

@David Gonzalez Himynameis i was just thinking that but then again she isnt a very powerful pony

@TheNoobIncorporated your right since she doesnt believe in friendship

Ooh, that would be nice, seeing that Twilight and Starlight are opposites. Starlight says cutie marks are bad things, and strives to bring everypony to equality.

@TheNoobIncorporated then it would make sense as long as it really is the element of magic not friendship

@Jack Harris I meant like now that they do know about her.

@TheNoobIncorporated this was made Before rainbow rocks and by default before season 5.

Or she could be the element of lies (AJs anti element) she lied to a whole town of ponies, you can't get worse than that! Or can you?....

@TheNoobIncorporated he didn't know starlight glimmer but good point i would say more of the villains would be disharmony cuz like there bad and there adults but discord is not part of it cuz hes not a bad gut anymore BTW who likes fluttercord if u do go watch Bride Of Discord it is awesome

@coolcreeperz  I know but now that they do, it would make more sense. also @Paige T good idea.

Or her staff could be the element of deceiving

By they didn't really know about her back in February


SEVEN DEADLY SINS some of them already exist in mlp.(Nightmare moon as envy, Daybraker as pride, Chrysalis as Lust,Sombra as gluttony,Maniac Mayhem as greed, and Maud as sloth)


Diamond tiara isn’t the only jerk

blueblood also isn’t the only jerk

flim and flam weren’t fully lying because their machine could probably run day and night without stop so Idealy it would be better if they just used the machine properly

Spitfire... spitfire is a decent candidate so ok

and isn’t sunset supposed to be not canon and in another dimension?


the moral only works while it can make more profits for individual genetic selfishness than competitors.
Mother nature only prefer creature that making more benefits for its own gene.
Think about it: if ponies drop the one of upmost disharmony imoral crime -- racism, the feature can treat and classify creatures(even is the same specie in biology) into two of enemie and friendly specie, bad and good specie, dirty and pure specie, ugly and beautiful specie, harmony and discordy specie.
Then the ponies might hardly to make any goods for its own individual genetic selfishness while doing the fights toward the carnivore specie during the disharmony circumstance of wartime.


Now that there are equestria girls I feel like there's a similar type of magic of course there is friendship the most powerful magic but in the first episode in a equestria girls when twilight and her friends blasted sunset shimmer the rainbow bend over her the same thing happened with the villains in equestria when the villains combined together anything similar


3:42 every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Maybe when the elements of harmony were created the elements of disharmony were created too. :)


Don't forget when chrysalis was trying to get revenge on starlight glimmer and made  clones of the element holders such as twilight fluttershy rarity apple jack and rainbow dash but evil anyway so when the clones of them were in the cave with the tree of harmony they were arguing making the elements on the tree go black in that period of time we saw the elements of disharmony


Who thinks that Sawtooth and CC should make a remake of this video using some of the newer characters from the later seasons


Twilight's element turned sunset shimmer into a demon... because sunset was not really kind... I think whoever uses the element... the element reflects the attitude of that person!<br>(Sorrt about my bad english, it sounded better in my head)

Twilight's element turned sunset shimmer into a demon... because sunset was not really kind... I think whoever uses the element... the element reflects the attitude of that person!
(Sorrt about my bad english, it sounded better in my head)


Ok. I’m sorry, i think that this is an interesting theory... however.....

The main parts of what you discussed of your theory was proving why we  haven’t or wouldn’t ever see them, therefore we would never have proof...


My theory: The barriers of the Elements of Disharmony are the gray ponies that Discord caused would be the  barriers. Here’s why, Discord would be the element of disharmony. And the gray ponies would be the other 5 barriers. When Discord takes over the main 6 would be changed into the elements of disharmony. So they only turn into the dark ponies when Discord takes over. But, when Discord takes over Twilight would be a backup like spike.


So, If there's Elements of Harmony, and Elements of Disharmony, and then someone in the comments said frenemies..

Does that mean there's also elements of ying-yang harmony?


Elements of Disharmony
Sunset Shimmer (Dark Magic) (Element of Magic)
Rarity (Selfishness) (Manifestation Book)
Trixie (Anger) (Allicorn Amulet)
Adiago Dazzle (Controlling) (Siren Gem)
Sonata Dusk (Clutsy) (Siren Gem)
Aria Blaze (Lier) (Siren Gem)


I don't think Sunset Shimmer would be the Element of Evil Magic because finally she became good, didn't she?


Okay now that you said it I realized something what if the elements of disharmony are hiding within the elements of harmony so when Sunset Shimmer put it on her head the element of disharmony was able to show but you couldn't see it


I think lightning dust instead of spit fire would work and Maud pie is happy just in a different way


What about grogar's bell? Or the Jewel/Crystal in Storm King's staff?


Harmony requires both parts, evil and good is not apply to harmony, so elements of disharmony never existed, they were already whole, and that explains why twilight's crown can be used for bad purposes


What is the opposite of all the elements of harmony/the main six good magic - evil magic loyalty - disloyalty laughter - no laughter kind - unkind and the rest


Another thing discord's necklace that Tirek gave him could be an element, I'm still workin that one out.

Technically Tireks necklace was given to him by his brother in friendship so it can’t be one

I agree with this whole vid...exempt maid is not gloomy, she's quiet and calm, does she ever seem sad?or just flat, grey yes but not sad. And I think there are 7 disharmony elements. In in of the my little pony comics, the mane six travel through the mirror, but into the opposite dimension.  There were the stain glass windows. One had queen crisalis as love. So I think she's the element of hate or spite. Gloom sounds like...well u always forget get name. Oh and if u read the night mare rarity comic collection which I REALLY HOPE YOU GUYS DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #readit  you see muffins as doctor hooves sidekick
... I think....... look closly... oh wait that's the kidnapping of the cutie mark crusaders well read that too.  I think muffin is an element , but not of harmony or disharmony, she Is confusion . This is disharmony, it's also not evil.

Also You know when you said that there is darkness in light and light in darkness? Well, Thorax is the only good changeling in the hive at one point. Sounds like light in darkness to me. Just wanted to mention him.

Guys!!!! The elements of disharmony are the main six the crysalys created did anyone see that btw there by dead the three of harmony distryed them

It’s not, since it happened to be the key to the chest.

It was twilight's  key because she gave up her alicorn magic to save discord and her friends

Frances O'Connor that's what she said (I'm sorry😭)

but that ended up being twighlights key to open the chest


Elements of Harmony;
Kindness,
Laughter,
Loyalty,
Generosity,
Honesty,
Magic,
All together: Friendship.

Elements of Disharmony;
Cruelty,
Unhappiness,
Betrayal,
Greed,
Lies,
Dark Magic,
All Together: Corruption.

The Alicorn Amulet might be a mix of ALL the elements of diharmony, because if you aaw the episode, the Alicorn Amulet CORRUPTED Trixie.


Evil Magic: Queen Chrysalis
Betrayal: Cozy Glow
Greed: Tirek
Cruelty: Nightmare Moon (no longer in action cuz Luna)
Chaos: Discord
Selfishness: Gilda


I also have something to say about these disharmony elements. So we know they exist because in the grand galloping galla episode we see fluttershy being cruel to the animals. So we KNOW her cruelty disharmony element exists so the others must also have them. And if pinkie pie has chaos we know she has that because we saw her go crazy bonkers from the creepypasta AND and actual episode it the series! And Raritys is existing because we see her infect the whole pony Ville. So I'm still looking into twilight AJs and dashies and I'll let us know when I do.


Wait, what about discord? remember how he switched their elements to the opposite, for example apple jack switched from honesty to dishonesty?


you are the smartest and most intelligent pony or person i have ever seen,you should be avorded for that.well done!!


I actually think that the eodhs would work bonded by haterit  same as the eahs are bonded by friendship