@doja Came here from the Lee Rodarte video, couldn't recall the coke reference in the comments and decided to watch this again.. and this fucking legend pins a link to Jeff's channel an hour ago! Perfect timing
@Spanishkid obviously. rampant daily use of drugs doesn't make you a beauty queen, especially when you've been doing it for a good while. He seems like he's off the junk and smoking nug instead. At least thats my assumption. Hopefully hes on nothing but weed isn't bad as long as you remain productive and forward thinking. Check out who he's subscribed to, a couple spiritual channels. He's definitely moving up.
The fact he is able to pull this off while in withdrawals is super impressive hahaha He's definitely got the junkie voice, that low rumble I grew up with guys just like him, super blunt and honest about using haha
It's funny the murderers are all stupidly honest & admit shit despite their planning But hes actually smart and doesn't say a damn word haha You're not my friend, you're trying to get my confession, he knows the drill hahaha It's great
idk doesnt sound like the same guy, original jeffs voice sounds way deeper. also doesnt seem to have the same demeanor as original jeff, or even be the same height as original jeff. also, doesnt even live in the original area this took place. original jeffs hair is darker and face is different. one could argue heroine use will do things but not change a persons face bone structure and height for instance. be cautious it may just be someone trying to cash in on this original jeff guys clout.
@Spanishkid Well, he was a "junkie" for 14 years, that's quite a while. Doing drugs that much, possibly every single day, isn't gonna make you look all nice and pretty. But he might've changed since then. If not, he probably switched to something lighter.
Imagine walking into that room and trying to get someone to confess when you KNOW they didn’t do it.....it’s a form of evil! What must they be saying to each other outside! Because it bloody isn’t them talking about how they actually think he done it
Pls interview Jeff on your channel JCS! That interrogation video is from a few years back I guess and a lot must have happened since that you two could talk about! That would be so epic.
@Calcium Crusader They are allowed to hold them under suspicion while they gather evidence for a limited period of time or get a confession. In this case it looks like he was there for a day before they let him go due to current lack of evidence to charge. Always best to get a lawyer and decline to speak. If you're guilty and they have the evidence you're fucked anyway.
A detective is a respectable human being jeff. He wouldn't lie to you. If he tells you that he thinks it's in your best interest to talk to him than he really means it. He is offering you guidance Jeff trying to help you out brother. Smarten up jeff, talk to the detective man. Lol.
JCS.... with your video, you handed Jeff a way out. I am floored. God bless you and may The Lord bless Jeff out of his turmoil and give him peace from smack and pills. Jeff... if you are reading this... the Deep State counts on you being a victim. Use that as your higher power and get off the smack. I'll be praying for you.
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Brian Morien2021-01-04 10:48:33 (edited 2021-01-04 10:49:08 )
Didn't really care for the video. Hard to follow along or watch when the narrator can't shut up for more than 2 seconds and allow the video to play. I don't mind stopping but stopping every couple seconds is rather disrupting to the viewer.
Jeff's awesome you guys. Hes still just as crazy and hilarious. The song links are him. Hot waters is favorite. He wrote it while he was living in a cabin in the middle of fucking nowhere with no hot water running around naked until his dad kicked him out cause the neighbors complained too much 😆 I wish I could share the ones from when we jammed at his moms last summer 🤣 fucking gold, but they're just video recordings on my phone lol
If he had prior convictions, there is no way Coca-Cola will hire him EVER! It would be easier to believe that he married a Canadian girl and lives there as a rich guy.
@are bee There are plenty of other videos out there if you don't like JCS. He adds other information in to explain the psychology behind the people and acts which I think is very interesting and adds to the value.
The truth of the matter is this guy could possibly actually be innocent I don’t know if he was or wasn’t but sometimes innocent people get pinned and this is how it goes.....
He wants his candy bar but he dont ask for a lawyer he dont ask to see there proof he has a gun or anything important just give me my candy bar and he dont get it either poor guy
Question. How long after one asks for a lawyer does it take to get one? And do the police have the right to interrogate after detained person asks for lawyer or do they just hope he gets more desperate and he’ll talk? The burden of guilt is in the police. Jeff doesn’t have to prove he’s innocent. I’m concerned with the police questioning a sick man. He’s bound to say anything to get out of there and get well. This scenario is troubling.
Damn. Heroin addict for 14 years. Everyone I know who was addicted to opiates (and is still alive, including myself) is either is off of the heroin now or I'm sure they are incarcerated or dead. Most of those people (some of them my friends) are dead.
Well thanks for interrupting about Jeff, the host of this video loves to hear himself talk. It makes him feel smarter than all of us. Keep in mind people, Psychology is one of the worse things that’s happened in America. Psychology is anti-God it is anti-Christ it is anti-Holy Bible and all of its teachings is the opposite of what Gods word teaches. Example-Gods word teaches us to forgive those who has trespassed against us. Psychology teaches to remember what they’ve done to us. Gods word teaches that when we have done something wrong or sinful to ask for forgiveness, Psychology teaches if you done something wrong or sinful it’s not your fault but it’s the fault of a parent or family member. Who founded Psychology a man who was influenced by demonic spirits who stated that as he was thinking about his theory of reading the soul-mind that he could feel the evil in the room with him why? Because they was in the room with him. Yes Psychology is evil and it’s destroying Americans lives everyday. It does not have any answers to any problem.
A legend? this is so stupid, if you act like this you are 100% guilty proven lol. Those young guys that made the questions to him where very very bad and unexperienced.
@Howard Thomas He's not a criminal. He's a human being that has committed crimes. More than that he was suffering from a substance abuse disorder the entire time.
Sorry JVS, but I think you do mankind and or senses a bit short of on this one. I don't need to hear him thanks for the coke to know he's got a glimmer of something human in him. I can simply great it in all his reactions, he simply is be being himself and is completely straight whereas the cops are not.
I am sympathetic for him cuz he’s not like you know a mass murderer or something like I wouldn’t feel scared of this person being out in public I just think he probably needs help for addiction to heroin obviously because drugs suck. And sometimes they make you do dumb things so yeah
Psychology is contrary to True Christianity, it teaches the opposite of what Gods word teaches Christianity the Holy Bible is Gods word and those who claim to be Christian but you embrace psychology you are not a True Born Again Believer, there is a Heaven there is a Hell all who rejects Jesus Christ will burn for eternity.
@CHSD he might be cleaned but he’s not delivered from it. The desire will always be there that’s why a large percentage will always fail and go back into that pleasure of their choice. Jesus can save cleanse and deliver from any bondage and there will be no desire, “ I’m free at last free at last thank God I’m free at last”
Bro for having so many subscribers u sure take ur time posting videos. About one video a month it looks like. Im not tryin to criticize but just say we would love more!!!!
I don’t feel bad for Jeff if you do the crime you do the time. The detective doesn’t seem to get it when reading the rights “you have the right to remain silent”
Idk about all the psychological mumbo jumbo, but I like him because he has a great sense of humor. Hopefully he got clean and is getting things figured out.
@Verify Truth Been A smackhead for twenty years. Believe me, don't try it. It is very nice and so easy to get into that you will probably regret it for a very long time.
Yep, but they continue to 'interview' him. He could have got something from this $ wise, held with no evidence, no representation when requested, they knew they had nothing all along. Sadly compensation would have likely gone up his arm as fast as it was 'won' . . . so a good thing that didn't happen (I hope).
@Les Skinner that’s typically not how civil suites work
You CAN sue, that’s your right. The point is you won’t see substantial gain, if anything at all
This is because judgements are based on the level of harm/loss one sustains from the infringement
I don’t know all nation’s laws but they aren’t dissimilar on things like this
The first guy was awarded because he was wrong accused, he was specifically told his process was going to be different, it was unusual and he was detained for 3 days. There are also racial implications
In the second guy he literally GAINED from the interaction and there were no resultant losses
He was wronged but there was no real measurable loss or infringement
The result of this already has legal precedence. Anything he said would be inadmissible as evidence and he would probably have charges dropped if there were no other outstanding evidence (which there probably wouldn’t be since they don’t interrogate aggressively if they have enough)
So let’s say he sued for 1.00 and a formal apology
Would probably win and be awarded both
Sue for substantial amounts and the judge is most likely going to state some statute that protects the municipality stating the officer in question has been (insert slap on wrist here) to keep the public faith in the system
You CAN sue, yes you are right. It’s your time and money
I’m just saying that it’s not just cut and dry
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ronald macdonald2022-05-31 00:23:27 (edited 2022-05-31 00:23:58 )
@Les Skinner you have no right to representation being present unless you have been arraigned
@ronald macdonald False. You are allowed to have a lawyer present during questioning.
U.S. (512 U.S. 453 (1994).) The Court noted that if a suspect invokes the right to counsel at any time, the police must at once stop the questioning until a lawyer is present
Fifth Amendment's right to be protected from giving incriminating testimony or the Sixth Amendment's right to have an attorney for your defense.
"The U.S. Supreme Court considered facts much like these in a case called Davis v. U.S. (512 U.S. 453 (1994).) The Court noted that if a suspect invokes the right to counsel at any time, the police must at once stop the questioning until a lawyer is present. (A suspect can also invoke the right to remain silent—see Is post-arrest silence enough to stop police questioning?) But the Court also said that, after a suspect waives the Miranda rights, officers may continue asking questions until the suspect makes a clear request for a lawyer.
If the comment is ambiguous—if a reasonable officer would interpret it as a potential request for a lawyer—then the police can continue interrogating. The suspect must "actually" request an attorney to end matters. In other words, the suspect must say something that is clear enough for a reasonable officer to interpret it as a request for a lawyer."
What kind of annoys me is that he very clearly said "I want a lawyer" and nobody stopped the interview to get him a lawyer. Like fuck, what's the point of reading someone's rights if you just casually go about it.
From what I know if you ask for a lawyer, but you keep talking anyways, it’s like you waived your right. He knew he was innocent, the cop knew he was innocent, so he probably figured he would talk to get a chance to get out sooner then then just lock him in a room waiting for a lawyer
@Mr. Mock That, plus a lot of the time you have to be very, very specific with how you state that you're exercising your rights. Like, for a lawyer you'd have to specifically state "I'm requesting an appointed lawyer and will not speak until you supply me one" or something along those lines. I can't remember exactly, but basically you have to stay by your demand, and actually demand it OF THEM instead of just saying "I won't speak until I have a lawyer." because then they'll just just make you wait in there, since you didn't say anything about actually Getting one, just that you wouldn't talk without one. Cops are going to do everything in their power to loophole you into a cell, regardless of your innocence. They're just looking to fill quotas and keep power. Cops don't protect people, they protect the state. And the state Does Not Like Heroin Addicts.
The answer is simple Jeff pretty much waived his right to a lawyer by continuing to talk after the request and by agreeing to do more interrogations for soda and candy. What Jeff should have done is demanded his right to a lawyer and kept demanding it while keeping his mouth shut about anything else. However the police can legally detain you without a single charge for 48 hours if your a suspect.
@Cookiesrfood Wrong, once the request for a lawyer is made, the police must do two things by law. First, STOP ALL QUESTIONING. Second, remove the individual from the interrogation room as soon as possible until representation has been procured. There is no legal precedent for continuing a conversation after a suspect has called for a lawyer. Yes, if the individual continues to talk, that is still admissible, but the police CAN NOT persuade the suspect to continue to talk after by asking more questions.
@John Herrin Not wrong at all, First of all they did stop the interrogation once a lawyer was asked for and returned him to his cell. The police are legally allowed to hold you for a 48 hour period without question though the hour time limit varies by state. Then they start a NEW interrogation when they reread him his MIRANDA rights again and this new interrogation only takes place because presumably Jeff agreed to it for a coke. The police didn't persuade the suspect by asking more questions they persuaded him by offering a coke can. What probably happened behind the scenes is that they offered him a coke if he agreed to talk with them more Jeff could have said "no I won't say anything until my lawyer gets here" but it looks like he agreed to talk more for a coke which gives police the go ahead to talk to him again. Additionally when they reread him his miranda rights the 2nd time that was Jeff's opportunity to assert he wanted a lawyer again and didn't want to talk to them.
The reason for the first interrogation was because he was a suspect and Jeff had no choice but to attend the interrogation; however the subsequent interrogations only take place because Jeff himself agrees to them. They most likely did contact a public defender lawyer after the initial interrogation but public defender's don't just magically appear it takes time for them to show up because there typically swamped with cases. Are the police being manipulative here and taking advantage of a junkies withdrawl symptoms? Yes they are but it is still legal. Now a defense lawyer could argue that the police were taking advantage of a known junkies withdrawl symptoms and claim it was a form of coercion to try to get what he said in the interrogation room thrown out; however they would have a tough time proving that the police didn't uphold his rights to a lawyer especially when Jeff agreed to talk more and was read his Miranda rights multiple times before each interrogation.
@kooolkidninjamaster not anymore. There are new coercion laws. All a suspect has to say is the word "lawyer" after that the cops must stop asking questions. If they dont it falls under coercion. This may have been a while ago and before that but no you do not have to say you evoke your right to a lawyer. Quite the opposite actually. You have to sign or verbally agree to waive any rights which is why Jeff reiterates hes not signing anything
The thing that touches me is that Jeff clearly feels like the system has failed him, and has no trust in it whatsoever, maybe hes even angry. Yet, he remains polite and respectful towards the officers questioning him. Thats a rare quality. I hope he managed to get his life together!
Went there myself, you aren't polite because you feel like being nice, you're """"somewhat"""" polite because otherwise they can easily make the whole process either much longer, or much harsher.
You have no control over what you decide especially behind the bars, they know it and they use that as much as they can, as long as it stays "ethical".
Hahaha!!!! Polite and respectful?!?! Hahaha I know when I'm teaching my kids manners I make sure they know to call people pricks and to tell them "fuck no".
Lol. The person being interrogated is the one who is asking you what the evidence is. This is clearly a great miconduct on the officer's side. Yeah, you say you have evidence of what Jeff did? We have evidence of your little misconduct here buddy. Oh yeah and it's a video so we have recordings of you actually doing it.
There's a reason for that actually. I mean he may just really like cokes but he's going through heroin withdrawal, the sugar in those cokes will be releasing some dopamine and help alleviate a small amount of the discomfort. Science
@Ithrum first off, you only have to read Miranda Rights when interrogating someone. You don’t have to be read your rights if you’re not going to be interrogated. Second off, he’s read his rights each and every time he’s in the interrogation room. Third off, he’s only requesting to be interrogated to get a coke. That’s why he complies until he gets a soda, and then he demands his lawyer and the interrogation is immediately ended and the cops stop interrogating him. He willingly requests an interrogation each time, nothing the cops did in this video would result in a mistrial.
Perhaps you should actually maybe study the law before you comment about it, cause what you said is just not true at all.
@PissOtter Flyswatter yeah definitely not as someone who was a junkie for years coke is not going to offer you any relief at all homie was just enjoying the stuff cuz he knows its bologna sandwiches and watered down kool aid after this
@Peero N you'd be surprised how much coke helps, I know if I go through herion withdrawals and I don't drink a coke ima gag on flem and puke all over the place, the fizziness and acid break down the flem in the back of the throat. Doesn't happen to every addict though ,everybody is different ,
@Pacman da pack man drink coke can help if you're the type who's withdrawals cause head congestion and water eyes . If I don't drink coke ima throw up all over the place from flem draining down the back of my throat and I know I'm not the only one
@Pacman da pack man lol I think you'd agree with me there's nothing lucky about any part of heroin withdrawal, but hell I'd of thrown up if I drank water too , coke was the only thing I could drink , idk where you're currently at in your addiction , I hope you never have to withdrawal again but if you do I'd recommend atleast trying it , I've had alot of people look at me crazy over the years for recommending it but it can help.
@Ithrum that’s not true. You can most definitely be booked and charged without being read the Miranda warning. Miranda is literally for people being questioned
Genuine question, why didn't he receive the lawyer he asked for? The second time he enters the interrogation room it is five hours later than his request, he gets interrogated once more without his lawyer present. Is that not a mistreat? They clearly hadn't got enough evidence to hold him, so they had to release him! But, I am still very confused about my first question.
After a request for an attorney, the police have to stop the interrogation. But they can wait a while, give Miranda again and try to restart the questioning. Notice the 5 hour break after he asks for an attorney. Source: Formerly a criminal defense lawyer.
I'm an attorney. When you assert the right to counsel in an interrogation, you have to assert it and stick to it. Say, "I want my attorney," and shut your mouth. If they start asking you questions after that, say you want to wait until you see your attorney and shut your mouth. If you don't, it doesn't matter that you asserted your right to counsel.
@Cavios precedent is actually good otherwise you’d be automatically ruled by statutes that can’t account for the uniqueness of each case. Unless you want to move to Louisiana and try living under a Civil law code rather than Common law
@McGuffin Doe Good precedents are good; bad precedents are bad. If you have a shitty system, rife with corruption & inequalities, then it's scarcely a saving grace that the broken clock is sometimes right.
@McGuffin Doe No, there's tons of room for improvement, and expert consensus already even knows a number of the changes that we should demand. However, America is a conservative society in a conservative world, and so there is significant opposition to every reasonable improvement we can make.
It's a broken system, but it doesn't have to be: People want it to be.
@Cavios what “experts”? If you want it to change, convince 2/3 of your fellow citizens and it’ll be changed. Thankfully, our constitution does not defer to so-called “experts”
The gridlock is not a bug, it’s a feature:
“From this view of the subject it may be concluded that a pure democracy, by which I mean a society consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer the government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole; a communication and concert result from the form of government itself; and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious individual.”
@McGuffin Doe What experts? Are you serious? Well for starters, how about you look up the recommendations by the various disciplines that oppose the looming ecological catastrophe, and have all kinds of helpful suggestions about the mathematically necessary actions to prevent it.
As for a legal example: If you truly cannot think of a single systemic civil rights matter that's been relevant in the past decade, that... just do us all a favor and stop your ignorance. Black Lives Matter.
@Cavios oh I don’t care about those people. Thank God we don’t just make law based on whatever they say. That would be such a disgusting and unamerican tyranny
@apalsnerg He was mirandized, so he knows he doesnt have to talk, but looks like the police 'restart' the interogation clock after leaving the suspect alone for a while, then returning to ask questuons. I suspect the interrogator is hoping the suspect will talk anyway, because rights were read, and suspect has the choice to talk or not talk, knowing what he says can and will be used against him/her. That is the key...dont talk except to ask for an attorney.
@Rich Taylor so basically he doesnt have the right to a lawyer upon request? so it’s a fake right??
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K M2022-03-28 18:30:33 (edited 2022-03-28 18:35:17 )
@Abby Carpenter on request but not immediately. plus, I don't think he asked for a lawyer, just said I don't wanna talk and they put him back in holding. they can hold him for some hours while trying to get enough evidence to charge
Because he kept talking. You gotta say it then literally shut your mouth till they arrive. They’ll try to wait you out and get you to give in. Attorney Tom on YouTube always is saying how you should absolutely never talk to cops lol
@apalsnerg because a cops main goal is to get a confession regardless of if you did the crime or not. 9/10 talking to the cops without you're attorney present is digging a deeper hole for yourself
Why do you think he was read his miranda rights every time they began a new interrogation? lol Yes you do have the right to a lawyer at any time but Jeff essentially waived that right by continuing to talk after the request and by agreeing to do interrogations for soda and candy lol The Police can't force you to talk but they can offer incentives and deals and there's no rules saying you have to take care of a junkies withdrawl symptoms. Additionally the Police are allowed to hold you for 48 hours without bringing up a single charge.
@Rich Taylor question for a defense lawyer. If someone is innocent, and they fight cops trying to arrest them, only to be discovered later that person was completely innocent, how well would Plummer v State hold? Since that says a person has the right to resist any excessive force. If the arrest turns out to be unlawful, isn’t any force excessive? Always been curious why this hasn’t come up more. All that “good faith” bullshit shouldn’t hold water if the cop is an idiot and doesn’t do a thorough investigation before placing someone under arrest. Seems like most the time they go off of some idiot who doesn’t know the law, and a “suspicious person” seems to be a reason to detain for most cops. They leave out the second part of suspicious of “x” crime being committed.
@Laura Darby This is not true at all, any decent lawyer can have the entire interrogation thrown out with ease, regardless of what was said. The only thing is there's nothing physically stopping them from reinterrogating, it's not a video game, they can do what they want up until you actually fill out the paperwork.
Good news! This week (June 2022) the SCOTUS ruled that there’s no repercussions for not Mirandising a suspect. I’d say “don’t hold your breath waiting for that lawyer”, but you can’t say anything incriminating while holding your breath and you definitely won’t say anything at all once you pass out! Remember folks, even if you didn’t do anything, you might end up saying something police, a court, and a jury misinterpret. Ask for a lawyer, then exercise your right to remain silent early and often.
My heart hurts for Jeff. His intelligence and above-average cognitive ability shines through his miserable state of heroin withdrawal. He is not a dick, either. I wish someone had supported&loved him in his early years. Whatever he'd commited, he definitely sounds smarter and more likeable than that last detective, for one.
@Hoody's House intelligence does not breed boredom. If you were truly intelligent you could just pay attention to a blade of grass or a flower forever and be amazed
@Meg Noonan Addiction is more likely to develop when someone, at an early age, faces parental mistreatment; i.e. abuse, abandonment or neglect. And there are other, independent variables that may contribute to the onset of addictive disorders. I'm a therapist, I should know this. And I do.
This. Isn't one of the main pieces of advice for dealing with cops "Don't eat their food, don't drink their pop" or something like that? Besides just not talking to them, I mean.
Yeah but the sad part is, apparently only because he already was a dozen times in such situation and learned with time, that there are absolute zero benefits to talk for him.
Is there in any way I can watch or research about a “smart” criminal out IQ-ing their investigators@detectives and came out un-punished , because that would be an interesting documentary to read and/or watch
@MediumSur Moon well, it is not exactly what you are looking for, but still worth to mention I think, as this guy basically manages to drive the interrigating officers crazy. They ask him like "look at me" and after that moment the guy starres at him straight for like 2 hours and overall he is just giving the same stupid answers with "yes, no, I dont know" without any emotion. I think he kind of managed to not help them at all...........but the entire evidence was just too obvious anyway. Mcdaniel interrogation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_xb_JnXGeI
@Itzlolo1991 he is sober and have a YouTube channel too
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Too Hip to Hop2022-01-31 12:40:00 (edited 2022-01-31 12:59:22 )
I watched 9 seconds into this video. Jeff asks "I'm I under arrest" sitting handcuffed in a cell wearing a "prisoner" outfit. I dunno, Jeff, what do you reckon? 😀
So Jeff in this situation still no being sure if he is under arrest, I'd say his brain catches up to things extremely slowly. But if you say he is smarter than anybody else being interrogated on this channel, I'm looking forward to be extremely surprised about Jeff's intelligence in the rest of this video 🤣🤣🤣
Edit: I watched the entire video and indeed Jeff is smarter than anybody else being interrogated on this channel. 40 seconds into the video they read him his rights and he instantly stops talking, even the interrogator didn't get it. Brilliant 😂😂😂😂😂
Smart? Yeah maybe. I’d say more aware than anything. A lot of people make the mistake of not thinking before they speak, but in Jeffs case he has been through this so he is used to it all.
Most of the time even buddy's dont tell their buddies about committing theft, robbery, strong-armed robbery & damn sure not murder. Cops can sense if a suspect of interest has genuine body language responses OR OVER compensation or peak interest in the crime in question.
Know this. Here in LOUISIANA Unlikely he would be released.
hell yes! He's like oh u wanted to tell me everything and now after i read this you dont wanna tell me, n jeff is like i already told u? how did i not tell you? and he actually legit told the interrogator upfront you guys are tryin to get. aconfession and u aint getting it coz i did nothing. lol....
remember folks: you do not have to talk during an interrogation. first, ask if you are under arrest; if so, ask for a lawyer and dont talk until you get one. if not, ask if you are free to go. repeat as many times as necessary until you have representation or are released.
As a recovering heroin addict I’m just here to express my support and admiration for this extremely capable individual stuck chasing the dragon, my heart goes out to ya brother, hope you’re always well.
@Sarcastimation Knowing the difference between two drugs isn't exactly some deep and nasty secret. This is grade school health education type shit my dude.
@Sarcastimation medics, doctors, surgeons and many many other educated people know that there is a very distinct difference between those two substances.. you are calling someone else a cretin because they have more knowledge than you... not a good look on your part at all and is a testament to your lack of intelligence..
@Sarcastimation Explain why that is gross to know the difference? You don't need to be an addict to know this and it's not gross. You're just a child. So can you please explain why that is gross to know?
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Walter Clements2021-05-29 10:40:50 (edited 2021-05-29 10:41:16 )
@Sarcastimation It's common knowledge that heroin is an opiate that causes a sedated euphoria and "nodding off"/that the withdrawal is like a terrible flu, while meth is a stimulant that keeps you up for days "tweaking"/the withdrawal is marked by depression and fatigue. I'll never do either (or any hard drugs for that matter) and know that. Being educated on that doesn't make u a low-life
@Sarcastimation god forbid someone you are close to ever has a injury and gets put on pain meds. You'd be surprised how many people start out with prescribed pain meds and end up on heroin. You should change your views. It could be someone close to you or related to you. Most people don't just wander into the city and buy dope because they are curious.
@Sarcastimation nope you skipped the part where everyone said doctors, emts, and people with common sense know the difference not just “junkies” and now you’re making up things. You basically just said “I don’t know something and refuse to learn about it because I’m ignorant” 😂😂 take 2 champ, sit this one out.
@Sarcastimation There's nothing wrong with admitting you are wrong. Being stubborn is just making you look more and more dumb.
I understand it doesn't feel great to get corrected by someone else so you instinctively want to defend yourself, but if you're wrong, then you are wrong. Make it easier on yourself.
Cyn Hicks2021-05-30 04:41:51 (edited 2021-05-30 04:42:47 )
Most people get fearful and docile in cuffs and shackles while being held at gunpoint by authorities. Jeff on the other hand seems to get upset and defensive. 🤔
@Sarcastimation Assuming that education is equal to drug use is a batshit false dichotomy. You can know about drugs and not be a user. What, do you think pharmacists are all drug addicts? And don’t even get me started on surgeons!
@Detroit FettyGhost Isn't it amazing how society is fed opiates stronger than heroine in large quantity so that even their grandparents are on large doses yet they still seem to ignorantly put it in the same category with anything that a person might use to cope? Using Heroine then you may as well be sniffing gas and doing PCP. 🤣
@Sarcastimation Did you know that Heroine was a brand name drug made by Bayer sold over the counter at one point? It is where the name came from. It is slightly more powerful than morphine and not near as powerful as most prescribed opiods that are used today. Did you know that it comes from a plant? The point I'm making is that not all foods and drugs are the same. In fact, there are wild plants out there that are completely legal that will cause people serious delirium if not death when consumed and people do.
Dude....@Sarcastimation is a prime example of how the internet is eroding this generations brain. No communication skills and they swear up and down that they’re invincible till someone calls their phone and leaves their address in a voicemail. The internet is growing morons daily nowadays.
OMG what an idiot interrogator. Right after he says “you have the right to remain silent” then demands he say “yes or no.”
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Cyn Hicks2021-05-30 16:25:02 (edited 2021-05-30 16:27:11 )
@Dr. Bright There is nothing in your comment that is new information to me. I've done them all but for oxymorphone, Opana. I stand by what I said. Not gonna waste more time here. Have a good one.
@HagonIsTheMan Please point to anything I said that at all implies drug use. If anything it was implied, almost outright stated, that any knowledge I have on the subject is from watching TV. Not only that, you're trying real hard to defend a racist. Maybe rethink your argument.
Edit: Nevermind. You're homophobic, I'm wasting my time here.
@Detroit FettyGhost Sorry for those decades of lost time. Just don't forget to turn off caps lock, it doesn't really do you any favors no matter what way you slice your pie
@Extra Crispy Your right I'm sorry. I just get feeling so strongly I feel like the caps lock conveys it when in reality it just makes it less fun to read. Thank u for your kind words. Much love. Hugs and good days ahead to u.
@HagonIsTheMan I mean… it looks that way? LMAO you’re acting just like the (self proclaimed) child for no reason other than to try and be annoying? Rough sorry for whatever is going on
@Sarcastimation Well, you do you, not gonna judge. Since you get pleasure from people shitting on you, wish you all the best. Can’t blame you for doing what makes you happy.
I don’t really care enough to try to convince you that you’re wrong. If you think you’re right, I’m too lazy to change your mind lmao.
@Sarcastimation "I refuse to know about the things I think are scary and icky" is not a good way to go through life. The things you learn will become a lot less scary.
@Sarcastimation I think insults like that land even harder coming from junkies. Think about it. If he was some wealthy business guy wearing a suit, he would come off as arrogant, belittling, and entitled. But since it's from the "lower end", it comes off as genuine, earnest, and quite frankly, bad ass. He's a junkie with very little power and his little "stick it to the man" is quite embolden and awe-inspiring. It's why people find this so endearing. But at the end of the day, humor is subjective, so feel free to have a differing opinion.
I doubt it…the junky sitting in a Tyvec suit with handcuffs on being interrogated for a major felony…doesn’t induce a lot of of admiration, fear or sadness in these detectives I would imagine. Nor would it “cut his confidence” ? Coming from that? Nahhh…
@TheHorseWife 98% of this country should have done that over a decade ago, and we wouldn't be watching the Greatest Country being unplugged. In fact, there was quite a few did the research for everyone, but people didn't look.
CAPO GAMING2022-06-18 05:48:07 (edited 2022-06-18 05:49:27 )
I've done this before while being questioned for an alleged counterfeit charge. They could only hold me for 24 hrs, so I went up there, they pulled me out, I got 2 cigarettes and a soda out the detective, he tries walking in with a big folder of "evidence" and says he has me dead to rights, told him I'm not saying nothing, not signing nothing, put me back in my cell, he got in my face screaming that he was going to nail me and have me carted off to county in the morning, and that I was a heroin addict blah blah blah I said do what you got to do, in the meantime put me back in my cell. I was released next morning, walked out that bitch smiling.
Being addicted to herion (and crack cocaine in my case) for 7 years I will explain to the best of my abilities. At first it was because it was cheaper than getting pain pills (lortab, percaset, roxies, opana etc) and the feeling to me was im floating in mid-air, thrilling and full of energy- wow I can do anything. This is helping me excel at work and at home. Im the one everyone calls on at work because I get shit done, my house is impeccably clean. Nothing bothers me- my emotions are in check. I started off only doing a half of a tenth at a time (0.05 grams, a blunt of weed is usually 1.0 grams for those who dont know) and it was every other day. But then I slowly started depending on it so I could do daily things and I recognized that but liked what it helped me achieve. Then after all of that I was doing it just so I wasnt sick, to feel normal and was running out of money a lot faster and couldnt work the days I was in withdrawals so in turn made less money to keep me well daily. At the time a tenth was 20$ but I was doing 0.8 of a gram a day and had to do that much a day to feel like doing shit. I felt like I needed it to be normal and on top of all of that was trying to take care of a toddler and newborn.. I was drowning in debt, betrayed those I love, disappointed at myself and believed I wasnt gonna live much longer due to people cutting it with fentanyl but no longer cared because I believed I deserved it. No body in my family except my older brother has been addicted to drugs and hes been in prison all my life except for 4 or 5 years (im 27) so nobody understood my situation and felt more alone than ever. But ive been clean for about 2yrs and I never wanna go through that shit again.
Hope that helps someone rather in understanding or just in curiousity.
@thejose970 I dont see why that matters. People can wonder out of curiosity on drug addicts. I know I felt alone because none of my family understood. If im able to help one person directly or indirectly then I dont care if anyone asked or not. Everyones free to share
Sounds like undiagnosed ADHD to me. My meds are a stimulant and are the only reason I pass school. The feeling you describe seems like how I feel on my medication, that you have finally unlocked the ability to do things.
6:43 - every police detective will tell you this blatant lie if you end up in the interrogation room. Remember it is NEVER “in your best interest” to talk to the police.
Jeff is likeable because he genuinely comes across like he knows whats what. hes not trying to be manipulative or to seem like a victim. Hes standing up for himself while remaining polite and amicable. All while going through withdrawal.
That and people inherently dislike when they see people in authority try to trick or manipulate people. I think most people have a pretty strong negative reaction when they see actual police interrogations. We have an idea of how these things should go and watching multiple guys come in and straight up lie to a guy that they have had chained up for hours doesn't sit well with us. The guy asked for a lawyer hours ago and they are still playing musical cops with him just hoping to break him down and get a confession.
@dash4800 exactly. You see other folk who are guilty doing the whole poor-me act or trying to act crazy or like theyre some sort of dangerous supervillain bollocks... and the police are all pussyfooted around them. But Jeff is actually co-operating within his rights and they just use that as an oppertunity to dog-pile onto him.
@kartikeya tiwari i disagree. Even in cases where we strongly suspect that the person is guilty we tend to dislike the way interrogations are run. Like I said above, we want our cops to be honest and straight forward. Its just like when we see traffic stop videos. We know the guy was likely speeding or something, but we also know that the cop wants to try to find something else to stack on top of it. So when we see a traffic stop where the cop starts lying to the driver about his rights or tries to manipulate him to incriminate himself we get irritated and insist that he refuse to answer questions. Cops are trained to manipulate people. And most people aren't prepared to deal with it. So when we see someone who can call them out, guilty or not, they instantly become likeable.
@kartikeya tiwari Disagree, I'd still hold my current position on him. I don't like him as a friend, I like that he understood the process and turned on their heads so damn effectively it earned my respect. If he had murdered people, I'd agree with you because it would most likely mean he's a psycho or sociopath, but here he's just a junkie who knows to keep his mouth shut unless he's presented with a wicked burn opportunity that doesn't incriminate him.
@15thobserver thats the point, we DONT KNOW if he committed the crime he was being asked about. This is why he is "likeable"
Change the situation, imagine if u were witnessing the interrogation of a man who has committed a violent armed bank robbery .... would you be inspired by his ability to fool the police?
@kartikeya tiwari This is a false statement as I DO KNOW that according to state records he did not commit the crime. The man has a youtube account and is very much not in jail and was never convicted. So I don't really have to do your little 'what if' game because thats not reality. The fantasy of 'what if' is just something to do when you're bored if you already know the legitimate outcome.
@15thobserver that just strengthens my point, I hope u realize that. If someone either doesn't know if he committed a crime or not or knows that he didn't commit the crime then its way easier to like him.
If it was the trial of a known killer which was being shown retroactively, then he won't be likeable
You are completely wrong. Maybe thats the allure of him. He is an inmate, product of the prison system and highly manipulative. He is not owning victim, but claiming the "system" is against him. Maybe thats what people relate to, is the feeling that we are up against "the Man" in a game we likely will never win. But make no mistake, I would bet good money is not only guilt of this crime, but others he has not yet been connected to. His body language alone is enough to give that away. But his talk like an inmate is a dead ringer.
@Laurin Grace true if you've been robbed by someone like Jeff he's not so likeable having said that I hope he's sober and doing well. But likeable is a stretch..
He's only at the beginning of withdrawal here, if he was in the full swing of w/d he'd be all over that room, wouldn't even begin to entertain their questions and wouldn't want a candy bar or a coke.
The moment Jeff asked for a lawyer, that interview should have been terminated. His rights have not been respected and he's being taken advantage of by the interviewer because they know he is starting to withdraw, so a medic should also have been called. Shameful abuse of his human rights.
It’s hard to do. Imagine being in a situation like that, having anxiety and spilling your guts out to a cop. Then consider this religion we have in America of worshipping police and shows like law and order portraying cops as human and caring individuals, it’s very unlikely that a lot of people would refuse to talk to cops because they’re brainwashed into thinking that these pigs have any decency or humanity. Instead it’s important to understand that all cops are bastards and to never talk to one especially when you’re innocent.
@Adel Fazelrahman their job while interrogating you is to find you guilty, even when you’re not. This is proven time and time again. Most cops are good people, but when their entire purpose of talking to you is to take away your freedom then you should shut the hell up around them
Oliver Lemke2021-07-15 22:01:49 (edited 2021-07-15 22:02:44 )
It really doesn’t matter what your opinion on cops is. Even a good guy can falsely imprison someone, even if they don’t mean to. If they think you’re guilty they’ll do anything to get a confession or some kind of evidence against you. And that’s fine, that’s their job. But that’s why you never, ever, talk to the police without a lawyer present. Because even if you’re innocent, you’ll misremember something, or say something wrong in the heat of the moment and boom, it will now be used against you in court. There’s a great talk from a professor (and a cop) on YouTube, who will explain that better than I ever can, it’s called „Don’t talk to the police“. But to sum it up, nothing you can say during an investigation will ever help, while anything can (and will) come back to hurt you. Just don’t do it.
@dont care lol DARE. The lies around marijuana abound group? The ones that told us that drug dealers would lace a $20 drug with a $100 drug and not mark the price up? Yeah, they lied to you and here you are talking about how they built a bind of trust with you.
Funny how it’s a response to being brainwashed by the cops and you demonstrate how you were.
@bruh Seriously Giving them a chance to do what, exactly? If the police are interrogating you, it's never, ever for your benefit, regardless of what they tell you. "We just want to eliminate you as a suspect" - do you even watch the videos on this channel?
Someone commented above in reference to a video from a lawyer and a cop called "don't talk to the police" - both the lawyer AND the cop agree that talking to the police will never help you, it can only hurt you. Their job is not to find you innocent or guilty, it's to collect evidence for trial.
The only things you should ever say when being questioned by police are "am I being detained" (can I leave) and "I want a lawyer".
It's not about judging them, it's about understanding why they're asking you questions, and that is NOT to help you, EVER.
Don't take my word for it, ask a lawyer. Hell, if you have cops in your family or social group that you trust, ask THEM. They'll tell you the same thing - you should never, ever talk to police without a lawyer, because it can only harm you. If you don't have a lawyer or cop you can trust, go watch that video from the lawyer and cop, they explain in excellent detail why it's never a good idea, ESPECIALLY if you're innocent. It might just save your freedom someday.
@bruh Seriously It's not the job of black people to shoot people. It's the job of the police to find you guilty even if you aren't. Very bad comparison. I guess if you wanted a comparison of something that fit your narrative that not all police are out to get you would be something like "Don't trust fast food employees because they can spit in your food." But honestly all police may not be out to get you, but it is their job to find you guilty. They aren't our friends. When they are interrogating us what we say and do will be used against us in the court of law. Notice the wording of against and not for us in the court of law. They state it in plain view. If I say nothing but the truth and they find one way to pin the crime on me in my statement it will be used against me and I will be facing time behind bars for telling the truth. My best option is to say nothing. Even if I know the culprit, even if I could 100% recall everything perfectly and put the culprit at the scene of the crime, I could still be found guilty.
@Adel Fazelrahman When someone is in a position where they could get a promotion by getting you locked up for a very long time, your best approach is to assume they're bastards. It also doesn't help that some cops are indeed bastards. I'm friends with a few ex-cops and they'd be the 1st to corroborate that fact.
@Tyler Rainsi mean not really they aren't against you as there not putting a gun to your head making you commit a crime and yes it's there job to figure out if you committed a crime and again if your there 99% you probably deserved it
@bruh Seriously so if a crime happens around me I deserve to be treated like the criminal that committed it? Yikes man yikes. Also police are known to force false confessions as well. So ya they do sometimes put a gun (could be literally or a metaphorical gun) to your head and make you commit a crime.
@bruh Seriously Ya let's ignore all the falsely imprisoned innocent people. I'm sure they deserve being in prison for some reason or another cause the police can do no wrong.
@Tyler Rains again do you know the odds of you being wrongly convicted? Less than 1% of the entire prison population is suspected of being wrongly convicted. But hey with your logic we shouldn't take the 1% risk and should let rapists and murderers roam free.
@bruh Seriously It's estimated that 1% are wrongly convicted no real solid evidence that it's above or below 1% just estimated. And it's better to not take that risk when you can wait, get a lawyer that will help you and then you and your lawyer can talk to the police to put the real criminal behind bars. We can twist your words and say you believe letting the "1%" of true criminals roam free and wild because you don't believe in going through the true process of getting a lawyer then talking to the police after.
@bruh Seriously No one is suggesting we let ANYONE walk free. The only thing people are saying is that it's always bad to be questioned by police without a lawyer, because they are NOT your friends, and the only reason they're questioning you is to get information to use against you.
I posted a detailed explanation above, but you chose not to reply to that, presumably because there was nothing you could try to twist to your bootlicking narrative.
Any lawyer and any cop that cares about you (like a family friend) will tell you not to talk to the police. There is no way it will improve your situation, and can only make things worse, ESPECIALLY if you're innocent.
I really advise you to search for "don't talk to the police" here on YouTube, that video, from a lawyer and a cop, explains this in detail.
This is not up for debate, talking to police without legal counsel is a bad idea and could put you in a legally actionable position regardless of your innocence or good intentions. It doesn't matter what the probability is that an innocent person will get falsely convicted - ANY chance of that is far too dangerous. There is no benefit, only risk.
If, after having been told this, you still choose to talk to police while being questioned, you are a fool for thinking you know better than legal professionals, and deserve anything that might happen.
nah. he read a book describing a heinous crime and that included an example of the john reid technique in use. THEN he ran across dont talk to the police. id put money on it. hes jonesing and still he gets the meaning.
@Operation Lull see the thing is police in shows will be portrayed as far more aggressive and rough than in real life as they will sweet talk you into spilling your guts
@Adel Fazelrahman When it comes down to being arrested and questioned, if you don't think that way, then you will probably end up talking to them instead of demanding your right to a lawyer. Most people think if they're innocent, then they are safe to talk. They don't understand how they can be screwed from something as simple as stating they were somewhere at a certain time, and maybe they are off by even 15 minutes and depending on the charge, that 15 minutes could make a difference. But now they are on the record as saying whatever they did and didn't realize how important it was to the charge. That's why you never say a word. I don't know why people don't get this, especially when they tell you stupid things like " just tell us what happened and you can be out of here in an hour", for example. They stop thinking about the fact they were arrested in the first place.
@bruh Seriously Not the same at all. You can not trust any cop who says that if you just tell him what happened, you can be on your way out the door in a half an hour. Your innocence is not the point, it is locking yourself into a statement that will be on the record, and if you innocently say anything that can be somehow tied to whatever you're charged with, then you have unknowingly screwed yourself. You don't know the details of the incident you got charged with, but of course they do. That is why you NEVER give a statement, and demand your right to a lawyer. No matter how easy the question may seem, you have to keep your mouth shut. What is it about this people don't get?
@dont care That's all great, but has absolutely nothing to do with being interrogated. Your right is to keep quiet and ask for a lawyer. If you don't remember this and realize why it's so important, then, oh well. You had better not forget that you were arrested in the first place at that point.
About 8 minutes into this video I got up, went to the fridge, and got a coke without even realizing I was doing it until i sat back down. Well played, Jeff.
I've watched this video multiple times and I am always impressed by how well Jeff handles these cops. Of course I support law enforcement and understand the pressures they operate under but to see a citizen who a) knows his rights and b) knows how to deal with manipulative cops is gratifying
i am so glad that jeff stood his ground and never gave the cops an ounce of evidence or anything that could backfire against him! what an absolute legend, i hope he's doing well nowadays!
Pure gold. Got me every time I hear this conversation. He said "play" as there's no such thing as a "good" cop in the interrogation room! And that cop played along makes it funnier.
@M About 1.30 in, though I don't get why you wouldn't just watch the video seeing as you're here now. Might need to start a little earlier for context anyway.
@M Ahhh, that makes more sense. I was wondering who on earth would ask for a timestamp for a 14 min video they clearly didn't actually wanna watch ahah. Glad I could help anyway :)
"While many of us can't relate to the feeling of being addicted to heroin for well over a decade, we can certainly understand the feeling of sadness" Is possibly my favorite youtube quote of all time
As an on and off, currently ex-addict, it hurts me to see someone going through what I went through multiple times before I was even an adult. The desperate lengths an addiction makes you go to are so painful to reflect on. I really hope Jeff here managed to get his life back on track. I’d admire anyone who manages that
You left out something major but something about an anti-hero that makes them such underdogs and garner support is, as The Nostalgia Critic says, they are able to act in socially unacceptable ways that we want to (but are unable to). It's not just the idea of redemption, but that they allow some of our own need for catharsis to be expressed through their assholery. We repress it because we'll be ridiculed otherwise. Ever wanted to yell at a kid for doing annoying kid things? Well, an antihero can do that for you. You can see it in the way Jeff is so firmly curt in his responses when he isn't being totally unresponsive. He also has the occasional sarcastic or snarky remark which definitely earns him some relatability points.
@Mista Don't Play I only ever did pills, never heroin. I still think I shoulda kicked and went through a few days of sick instead of this shit. It sucks big time and I’m not even the same person, but you might be right. I still need off this shit cuz I’m still chained to it like any addiction, plus it completely took the fun out of life
@# lakewood20 Which actually makes it harder. The more you know about opioid withdrawal, the worse it tends to get, at least, assuming you’re as unprepared as you’d be in a Georgia county jail cell.
FYI, for anyone who needs a list, the things you want to buy if you’re in withdrawal - assuming you can’t just buy more opioids to taper - are:
Kratom (kind of in the ‘more opioids’ pile but still) Thiamine/vitamin B-1 Gatorade Nutrient shakes/protein bars Any sort of sedative you can get your hands on, ideally Valium, but less ideally, a muscle relaxer A fan and/or a heating pad (ideally both) A subscription to Tubi, Netflix, Hulu, et al.
@Daniel Gregson I’m not trying to be a contrarian here, but if you were on doctor-prescribed Suboxone, you would’ve had a lot more than just a few days to deal with. So, if anything, the buprenorphine very likely kept you from relapsing.
Full-time opioid addiction takes anywhere from one to three years to correct. It’s probably not the subs that had you feeling like a zombie but the fact that your brain doesn’t relearn how to regulate body temp, endorphin release, sympathetic reaction (sneezing, yawning, watery eyes, etc) for at least 6 months.
@Daniel Gregson same here bro, I'm fucking miserable. Finally got down from 16mg sub to 8mg but I still have no energy. Want off this shit so bad, wish I never got addicted to H and subs
@David Judd I’m a everything junkie...speedballer..and an alcoholic. I can addicted do anything. If I can put in a spoon I will🤷🏻♂️....well, would. 9 years clean & sober. I grew up in gifted programs and have known people who went to MIT who wore Velcro shoes. Not even kidding. Cats that are completely socially inept and utterly void of so much as whisper of common sense. Just because you’re smart doesn’t make you good company.
I go through withdrawal all the time even though I’m prescribed it. I’m an addict too, I know. I do have real chronic pain but I’m physically hooked on it. The pharmacy will say I need some prior authorization or suddenly the meds I need are out of stock, the Drs office forgets to call it in even though I call 3 times a day. It’s not fun and it sucks. I’m sure heroin withdrawal is ten times worse than what I go through.
@Micheal Huff Thanks for sharing and being so transparent Michael. I'm praying for you, and will continue to. I say I'll pray, not because of spiritual arrogance, or superiority, but because as I pray for you or anyone, I see the log in my eye, as I pray for the thorn in theirs. Good day.
@Who piddled on your post toasties Kratom is just another opioid. What's the point. I went from sub to kratom and it was brutal. I was on kratom for 5+ years. Getting off kratom was just as bad as any other opiate withdrawal. Not as intense, but the insomnia of paws lasted for months.
People stop maintaining or switching opiates. If you want to get off opiates, take six months of clean time and stop expecting yourself to get better faster than that. Prioritize sleep, get hard cardio every fucking morning, get direct sunlight on your skin as much as possible, do sauna and cold showers daily, do breathwork.
At the end of that six months you will be higher than you've ever been in your life. All the time.
@dustin drew Kratom is not an opiate or opioid or even a synthetic. Kratom is an evergreen that contains the stimulant mitragynine and narcotic 7-hydroxymitraginine.
@Daniel Gregson It's best to stay on it for a short period of time, they left me on it for years and I didn't realize the long term effects it was having on me and for every year you're on it that feeling will follow you for about an equal amount of time.
@Daniel Gregson Chemical handcuffs. I always had way more luck with methadone, fucking hated Suboxone. At least they're both cheaper, that's the only good thing about them.
@Daniel Gregson Nah. I think it's a pretty easy rollover, from what I remember it's only the other way around that fucks you up. You can still use on Suboxone but you can't take Suboxone until you're withdrawing.
@Christopher Hammond wow wtf 😳 if I would have know that 2 years ago smh thanks for the info brother, I’m looking for the best way out. I’m hoping Kratom will work
@Shane Charles that’s really interesting, actually… i read the comment you replied to and immediately thought of my brother who got hooked on heroin years ago. i always remember him being super smart and my parents constantly praising him for it, to this day my mom will mention how smart he was. not that the rest of her kids weren’t of course, just that he was exceptionally intelligent. he has anxiety though and it started off with pill popping and well, you know the rest. makes me wonder if there’s a psychology around people with high intelligence being more susceptible to addiction.
@sara Whats the inverse of the phrase ignorance is bliss? Knowledge is anxiety inducing and depressing. Thats why i used the phrase "soothe the ol supercomputer" because our minds race with many problems other peopel dont even consider i assume. My brother would pass out every night in 5-10 minutes. It would take me 1-3 hours nightly because i cant stop thinking now matter how tired i am. I would space out in classes where i was way ahead as they couldn't keep my attention, and still its anxieties that would come to me. Not only this, being praised is pressure. IF your so smart, a lot is expected of you. IF you dont deliver, those anxieties and the fear of failure creep in faster and faster. Thanks for your reply, as the way you spoke about your mom reminds me of my mom(she passed 11 years ago which also crushed me of course.) Everyone in our family is smart, but i would be talked about as an anomaly similar to how you described.
The police know how miserable withdrawals are for heavy addicts and exploit that to try and get a confession. They know the longer they keep them in that room the worse the withdrawals will get and the more desperate they'll be to get out of it, which will lead to them saying anything they think will get that for them.
@Flamur Miftari Suppose you have vomiting and diarrhea, you have a strange pain all over your body, you have a feeling of cold and tension in your hands. You have a runny nose and the worst kind of depression you can't imagine. You want to cry but you can't even sit down or sleep.its the worst than any pain because you don't have just pain you are huge sad at the same time. If you endure this for three days, it will end. But about methadone and other opioids, although these symptoms are mild, last a very long time. It is almost easier to die than this torture believe me.
@Derp Y-Derp whilst it differs from person to person, and that society is still uneducated when it comes to addiction, you are fairly accurate. Good comment man
@GalacticUnicorn🌌🦄 it sucks you're going true that. If you're prescribed opioids the feeling is not much different than that of heroin withdrawal, depend on what and how much you take tho. I suggest to either look up alternatives and how to detox from opiates, or find someone who actually wants to help and would would be able to accomodate your needs with a prescription that works. Hope your good tho, good luck!
Im shocked that foos get dopesic from the dope. Not to brag and i do not glorify this, but i did tar from California all the way to Louisiana. And the best and cheapest still comes from California
@Shane Charles hey man idk if you’ll read this, but you are describing me 110% the nighttime mind racing, the constant pressuring myself, the anxiety, the crippling opiate addiction (on subs for 1year now)…. I sometimes get really really depressed about the opportunities and potential that my brain fucked me out of. Literally every days feels like a battle and it’s absolutely exhausting. I still enjoy laughing tho and I love hot chocolate and talking to people so I’m not all gone just yet lol. Best of luck to ya brotha
Actually, having withdrawals puts you in a kind of “survival mode” where your senses and also often even brain capabilities gets hightened… at the same time it is really distracting when its bad of course
@Jacob Andersson I've found the less sub the better- once I got to 2mg I felt all my energy back. Less is more with bupe! I hope either you've gotten where you want or off my dude. Sending love and good vibes!
@SinsOfSkins thanks bro. I appreciate it. I'm got down to about 6 MG a day but still feel like I have no energy or motivation. You're saying by taking less I'll feel better in the long term? The short term just sucks so bad that it's hard to cut down a significant amount.
@Daniel Gregson it does not. I got off Fentynal, subs, and heroin with Kratom. And it’s legal. Although, if Kratom is used long term, you will get addicted anddddd you can withdrawl from it as well. Fentynal is the worst. I was off it for 3 days and took subs and STILL went into precipitated withdrawals.
My father was only addicted to heroin for around a year and said that when he stopped he nearly threw himself out of a car going down the highway and had his hand on the door handle the entire time. This guy is a legend for keeping such composure while withdrawing and being falsely accused, so much respect.
I was in a car accident once. One of the things that came out of it was that I realised talking to the police at the scene, without a lawyer, is always, always a mistake. To anyone treading this, no matter how much you wish to 'do good' as I did, get a lawyer and say nothing to the police except what is legally required.
Public execution for drug dealers. Ruining society.
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It’s also a perfect example of how amazing heroin is that if a man that’s this intelligent allows himself to “try” it and then goes back for more...and more...and more...etc.
I use to be on meth. Deep into it. I lived up in the hills where the whole community was on it. The vast majority were pieces of crap. They were losers before the meth, and straight up villains while on it. Its not always some poor person forgotten by society. Quite the opposite. They hate society they hate order. They wanted to do whatever they felt like. They'd steal from their best friends and cheat with their wives/gfs. Be careful with all the bleeding heart assumptions.
Sputnik - I cringe when I read this, because I’m sure countless black folk would have loved to experience this kind of compassion and understanding during the crack epidemic. Instead all they got were insane prison sentences.
@LCU Nash If you watch these videos of Jim, you know how difficult it is to pass an interrogation, he is intelligent for playing the officer instead of getting played by him. And if you say he isn't intelligent just because he is an addict, than you should spend more time with addicts because you are far from their reality.
I used to do a lot of drugs but I am clean now. They never caused me to do other crime though. Never robbed anyone or anything. That guy is not intelligent.
@Doza Ditore e Dijes you just can't convince some people man. I've met so many scumbags that tell me I'm a morally corrupt, idiot, junkie low-life because I'm an addict.
The stigma is real, and incredibly harmful to our society.
@Sputnik Drugs should be illegal, as they can do THIS to someone intelligent... they absolutely should NOT be criminally punished on the same level as heinous crimes, unless one is a drug dealer.
@Sputnik well said. Addiction to drugs like heroin is incredibly hard to overcome and a few small scale studies in Europe seem to show that if given reasonable access to their drug of choice great many opiate addicts will be able to lead at least somewhat normal life and definitely stay out of jail. The vast majority of junkies just want to be left alone and are not violent or necessarily criminals as society sees them.
I mean, majority of heroin users dont have big problems with a drug itself. They have problems with a law and the society which makes them disfunctional. Drug war creates addiction. People with big life trauma and mental illness are one of those who usually get addicted to heroin, and bcs its illegal majority of users are poor street people with mental illness and trauma. Morphine is the same drug as heroin, same effect, identical substance. If it was so addictive then anyone who gets morphine in the hospital while injured, would become a junkie, but thats not the case. Heroin addicts need help, we should all look up to Switzerland that did a great job about it.
Its incredibly upstting that he will be criminalized for what is actually a health problem. You can't just decide to stop doing heroin and get better. Like why do we put human beings in cages? it will not cure him.
Dexy Nash what do you mean . Is there a prescription for liquid heroine possible in us? I am from Germany and some addicts can legally use this by doctors. It is like methadon treatment. And it’s good for the People to stay out of trouble! Maybe i misunderstood you?
@Zeke Hester :) I love what you are saying.... but putting them into cages is NOT to fix them. its to punish them... :( (and generally come out worse, unless they have some SERIOUS willpower)
@Zeke Hester i guess the focus is not on 'doing drugs' here.. there is a big difference between doing drugs and robbing a person/a store or whatever to do drugs
@Taylor M Thats not reason for them to stay illegal, bcs when they are illegal, they come from questionable sorces which can make them more dangerous. People should have access to clean drugs so they can funtcion normally, alcohol can do this to someone intelligent just like heroin can. Legal means, control of quality, quantity, purity and dosage, which make people more safe. And education of course.
@Ching Chong I sincerely doubt anyone has ever called you an intellectual, or arrested you merely for being a racist bigot, but good job playing the eternal victim card.
I know, it's crazy how the addiction just went out and got some heroin and stuck it in his arm and said ha I've got you now. Dam that disease. You know,I cant wake up tomorrow and choose not have cancer, but I can wake up and choose not to put junk in my veins.
braydenwis this has nothing to do with intelligence. God knows how many times this guy got arrested, he just don’t want to talk to detectives anymore. Give him some heroin he will start talking immediately. Like they brought him back to investigations room just for a can of coke
I guess this section's veering off, but this is why America needs to expand access to medication-assisted therapies like Methadone (what he asked for in the vid) and Suboxone. Even after the opioid crisis, facilitated by Big Pharma, was declared a national emergency, little has been done to expand access and lower affordability. If government-funded therapies were available for "Jeff," it's very possible that he would not be robbing and stuck in the addiction cycle. It also means the US wouldn't be on the hook for the tens of thousands of dollars that have been spent institutionalizing this man. The War on Drugs was one of the biggest failures in American history, yet it's still going on today. I believe this is one of the few issues where people on the far right and the far left typically agree.
@sox Same. There are people who do drugs but still have self respect. Then there are others who don't care about anything. When you've been there, you know people are still individuals. The word Addiction has become a convenient excuse for people to think they're showing empathy and acceptance. Truth is, all druggies/addicts aren't the same and not all deserve compassion. Not all even want it. This guy didn't seem special to me.
@Zeke Walker I helped me. I took care of other people kids when they wouldn't. I was just as deep as they were, but still knew better. Drugs didn't make my parents abandon me, nor did they make the person give my dad a hot shot and kill him. Get off your high horse and stop judging me when you know nothing about me. I at least knew these people, not you. The word addiction can't be a blanket excuse for bad behavior. There are good and bad people on drugs. Don't lump them all together so you can feel compassionate online.
The other hard part is having a friend you party a little bit with then all of a sudden the real shit comes to the party and then you dip out. Then every time you come around its escalated and escalated and all that's left is them screaming and you and everybody else and only hitting you up for money. And you give some. And you pay a light bill, and a water bill, and some rent. And you know you're not even helping and might even be just prolonging it. And you worry about them. And you're powerless yourself and still have to try and get on and live your life even though you owe some of your best times to them
@sox intelligent people can and do commit crimes. Some of them get away with it. What you are referring to is wisdom, not intelligence. Intelligence can help you figure out the best way to rob a house without getting caught. Wisdom helps you to see that the risk isnt worth it, or it is morally wrong, etc.
AnonymousAnglo It’s not the dealers who are at fault. It’s much bigger than that, a systematic issue with America. You should do some research on the Reagan presidency.
@Taylor M weed is absolutely a drug that can wreck people's lives. Most people can use it without it getting to that point (like most people use alcohol without wrecking their life) People that pretend weed is literally harmless are deluding themselves.
That shit is powerful! It took moving to new city away from my friends and family to kick it for me but I still have cravings and I still have few friends who might end up dead or in jail. It's a horrible idea start getting high off opioids, it never leads anywhere good.
Eternal420 - Read up on crack laws and then get back to me. 1 gram of crack was penalized the same as 100 grams of coke. And crack possession was met with extremely harsh mandatory minimums specific to only that drug. Stop being ignorant
@Taylor M I don't know enough about this guy to know if he is intelligent or not but I think you all are misinterpreting smarts for experience. This is a man who knows not to talk thru experience.
AnonymousAnglo legalise & supervising in some way will hugely reduce the problems & costs around drugs. Portugal for one, has massively reduced its problems with drastic drug law changes.
You think the billions on the war on drugs is working ?? 😂😂
@Dante Good my dad and step father, who are white, were not treated any better during the crack epidemic. There was no understanding or compassion at all. They both were in and out of jail. In fact, my stepdad was murdered and little to no investigation was ever done and his case is still unsolved... He was buying crack when he was robbed and killed. They (cops) were also very terrible to my pregnant mother when they did the death notification... And she is white as well. But I do think that the way they handled drug users was terrible and the charges were too stiff for the crimes committed. Even severe sentences for dealers who, with time and treatment, could also live successful lives. I just wanted you to know that it wasn't only blacks as my family and other families I know suffered greatly at that time too.
@sox I think you have to be prone to that type of behavior beforehand. I am also a former drug user and never had the compulsion to steal or sell myself for drugs. Maybe I am just lucky? But I don't think that's all... I agree 100% with you.
@Alexandria 279BC Weed doesn't make people lazy, weed makes lazy people lazier. Vast majority of those I went to grad school with smoked weed to reduce stress, and none of whom are what you call degenerates... Chronic stress is highly linked to a plethora of medical problems, with heart health being the most proximate danger - it's arguably healthier to smoke to destress than to have a glass of wine. Sure everyone's heard the "one glass of wine per day is good for your heart" idiom; one joint per week is probably just as good for your heart, worse for your lungs, better for your liver. Weed is innocuous enough to be as legal as alcohol and tobacco.
@Dante Good I appreciate that you're taking the time to engage with people who are clearly wrong, but unless conversion occurs it's pointless. The internet will forever be a no-man's-land for smooth brains with illusory superiority to spew shit takes, including me. Fuck... I just realized that I'm a doomer.
79tazman alcohol is the only drug you can die from when you are in withdrawal. Heroin is extremely painful to go through but they can’t die, even though they probably wish they could!
@Taylor M You're missing the point, drugs should be decriminalised to stop putting people who are sick in prison. Drug use doesn't suddenly become more popular when it's legal, it becomes safer and if you look at Portugal, it goes down. You're never going to stop people from getting high so the least we could do is try and help.
@Taylor M 75-80% of drug users do not have problems and are not disfunctional. Why should we restrict use only bcs of 20% irresponsible users? When illegal you double the problem bcs now 20% that are disfuctional and have health problems also have LAW PROBLEMS. And 75-80% that doesnt have a big drug problems also have LAW problems. Making drugs legal would control purityy quality and quantity of the drugs. Which means, less people would overdose and actually die. Which means that legalizing is precisely responisble thing to do. Also there would be less crime, black market and drug cartels. By criminalizing we make cartels stronger. To say that heroin addict can give up whole familiy is not really a good argument bcs any addict can. But not many of them do. If you give legal access to drugs, people would cause less problems to their families and society which is percisely what Switzerland proved. If some activity is dangerous, that doesnt mean it should be illegal. Dr. David Nutt made a perfect point by compering ecstasy to horse riding. By detaild analysis and research he proved that horse riding is more dangerouse then ecstasy. But if its dangerous that doesnt mean it should be illegal. Just look how many legal dangerous activities exist. Just look up Switzerland, they enabled a clean drugs to people, and it works!! Also, drug dealers dont check IDs. Some countries that legalized cannabis (Colorado), showed that usage among underaged kids has decreased. Which is huge, bcs marijuana can have a big impact on underdeveloped brain, underaged brain.
@Ma Rk Even if fentanyl was controled, by that i mean quality, quantity and dosage, it wouldnt kill as much people. People die bcs purity on the streets varies from batch to batch. Fentanyl is much more potent then heroin so people doesnt take proper dosage bcs they dont know. Sometimes you get 3 times stronger product on the street then what you expect, then boom, overdose. Also they lace heroin with fentanyl which kills a lot of people as well. Most overdoses come from uncontroled puritiy of the product or mixing drugs like heroin with other sedatives like alcohol.
Fr1endlyf1re I’m not judging them or you. I don’t believe anyone is inherently good or bad so I don’t think there are two separate kinds of people that do drugs. I think everyone deserves a legitimate chance to get help no matter how “bad” we think they are(mostly because money is just the best opportunity to find help and some people happen to be born with unfathomable amounts no matter how good or bad they are). And i won’t be shamed out of being a compassionate person even if I am wasting my time on people on the internet who seem to be dead set against compassion. It’s cool that you had the ability to help yourself out of a drug addiction but much like rolling your Rs and having a photographic memory, not everyone can do it and some things just can’t be taught. Like apparently I can’t teach you that people shouldn’t be shoved in a box just because we perceive them as bad.
@Bill Myers Thats not true, my brother started self medicating because he wasn't getting the treatment he needed for schizophrenia, he was real bad. He's now doing much better. We fought for him, I looked after him and didn't let him out. We used vallium and he didn't get out without me. I fed him healthy meals, started going to the gym, acted as his therapist. They can be helped but there is no money in truly helping a heroin addict.
@Sputnik he wasn't arrested for drugs, ya maddie! Armed robbery should be given counselling not with the other animals?? Ahahah! I'm no fan of police or drug laws but c'mon, your bias is absurd.
@Funny is Subjective the high really isn't as great as you often hear, at some point the addiction is as much about the process of procuring it, preparing it for use, and using the the actual high. As a for instance, I was never into IV use, I preferred to snort it. I've been offered shit in a spoon ready to be sucked up through that cotton and said no before, conversely, I've seen people sick as a dog who had real trouble finding a vein, so I'd snort mine and feel better in 2 minutes, while they sat there literally for 1, sometimes 2 hours searching for good vein. But the process of setting up their work and finding a vein is as much if not more of the addiction than the actual high (I mean it is pretty great, but not ruin my life great) somehow all that combined together adds up to give u one of the worst addictions the world has ever known.
@Ching Chong George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton ran one of the biggest Cocaine cartels in the U.S.....made Pablo Escobar look like a boy scout. Barry Seal, Mena Arkansas.....Search....Goggle may have buried, but tons of evidence, testimony and books on this. Boys on the Tracks murdered in Mena Arkansas when they witnessed a drug drop by plane.
@Zeke Hester actually, it would, but ketamine and vitamins in any pysch ward would do the trick. Doing nothing is the worst thing you can do in a drug epidemic.
I mean let's not execute people in the streets I was a heroin addict and sold to support my habit but I just actually spoke to my old dealer he now has 5 kids and a quit the lifestyle seeking a relationship with God.
@AnonymousAnglo bad idea... What we need is if we find someone addicted... We need not arrest them... We should force them into rehab, and allow them to save themselves... Cause it's clear that something in society has failed them... As that is how every drug addict ends up on drugs in the first place... As an escape
@AnonymousAnglo how about government funded rehab centers and low income housing/homeless shelters/clean free needle exchanges/better access to resources
@79tazman no they really can't die from heroin withdrawal. The only drugs that can kill you from withdrawal is benzodiazepines (xanax, klonopin, valium) or alchohol. Heroin in withdrawal is actually really terrifying if u are about to be in it, or when you are, cause its takes 4 or 5 days of feeling as shitty as you ever have in your life, but can't kill you. I almost guarantee you if they got him some methadone and dangled it as a reward for talking, he would have.
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@AnonymousAnglo what about them? You keep mentioning San Fran and Portland like they have adopted a legit decriminalization and network of help. They haven't. Plus, what about those 2 cities? The homeless problem is pretty bad, but they are both pretty great place with a close to normal level of addiction than anywhere else. Switzerland completely improved a very bad opiate problem by offering addicts a safe amount of the drug and a clean place to use it paid for my the healthcare system. It works incredibly well. You keep bringing up these points like the war on drugs has ever even remotely worked anywhere, and ignore the examples that have had a hugely positive effect on the issue. It doesn't create more addicts, would you start doing heroin tomorrow if it were legal? That's how most people feel, because the negative effects are widely known.
Simon Folkard There is some kind of psychological neurosis in our country that leads people to venerate losers and criminals while at the same time villainize the successful, law abiding and responsible people of this world.
@AnonymousAnglo Well we don't all turn into junkies do we. Life is incredibly hard on a lot of people, yet most don't start pumping drugs in our veins.
@AnonymousAnglo the war on drugs is bullshit, it is a war that never ends and just generates revenue. Executions for selling drugs? Why not start with big pharma and our own government? Ask why soldiers were protecting poppy fields in Afghanistan (opium/heroin/prescription meds) the biggest drug dealer around is your own government.
Sheepdog Wrangler you don’t know his situation. He clearly was going through some stuff, and this could have likely used drugs to get away from that. Not excusing it, but addiction is a disease. It does no good to call them stupid.
@Lobotomytogo wait wait wait. So, if im an addict in Germany, the country will give me a script for said addiction? ( opiates) I mean no offence or any kind of dishonor when i say this, but im going to move to Germany, Heil the deustchland! What do i need to know to become a citizen for the test Brother :)
@mc thuggin - not funny, your „ Heil „ ! . Yes, if you are addicted to heroin you can participate in a Program for legal injections or by substitution of methadon or Polamidon. But it isn’t that easy to get the allowance for the injection program..and you have to visit the doc 1-3 times a day - the morphin isn’t a take a way thing . You have to proof , how many other ways you tried to recover. It’s the last way .......
@mc thuggin Than you are lost- maybe you have the luck to convince your doctor. But this is dangerous for him . The doc is only allowed to give small amounts of this pills.
Fr1endlyf1re But they’re in that situation because of poverty, no? Isn’t the point that they don’t have the chance to be better, or at least that the chances they have and the frequency of said chances aren’t the same as those with more means, who have had their needs filled for generations? I think we make our own villains, and while it’s easy to blame them, it’s less easy to look in the fucking mirror.
Taylor M Poverty is the root issue here, not drugs. We tried that with alcohol. It was called prohibition. It didn’t go well. There’s this weird thing that happens when people’s basic needs are met. They don’t turn to drugs, they commit less crime, and they live happier and more fulfilled lives. I know. Surprising.
The core of the problem is emotional intelligence. This is why many Americans choose a vice - drugs, food, alcohol to cope. Teach a generation emotional intelligence and the world will change.
@sox Whether ur drug use lead to other crime proves absolutely nothing. Except that u were blessed w/ other access to essential resources, and that despite ur experiences, u don't have much perspective.
@Molly Cote In addition to alcohol withdrawal, withdrawal from benzodiazepines (valium, klonopin, xanax) methadone, and buprenophine (in Suboxone) can be fatal, as well
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@quick schweezy that dude is heartless. People forget there are addictions that are not illegal. Ehat makes it the same is it doesnt matter what the addiction is it's the same to the brain
@Fr1endlyf1re finally someone says it. i'm tired of hearing how he's a good man and wholesome and smart and whatnot just a "victim of circumstances". it's not like that in the vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of cases.
@Cakelinky most often, addicts start doing drugs to numb mental, psychological or physical anguish. Many have been abused, used or had medical trauma and got addicted on prescription medication. You don't have to be stupid to become addicted. You just have to suffer greatly. Alcohol is just as destructive and harmful but is legal and highly taxed. Social drinking is flashed at us through commercials every few minutes. I can't count the number of lives Alcohol has destroyed but can remember the few with heroin, meth or other street drugs have effected. Alcoholics are generally treated with sympathy while any other addict is treated with contempt. There is definitely a lack of education out there. And big brother can't tax street drugs, so they go after it. It's a mess.
Intelligence and experience is very different. Some of the dumbest people I know can do things I'd never dream of because they've got experience under their belt.
@JustAnother IrishMan it really isn't, you're talking to someone with a family with BLOODLINE addiction.everyone on my father's side is addicted to drugs and alcohol so no it is not that easy. I saw the process myself growing up both intoxicated and the process of sobriety. It is not that easy and it will never be that easy because once you are addicted, shit is hard. You can why didn't you just drink, well his drinking problem happened after he drank it socially and not in a bad light but after war is where it fucked him over. So please do not say it is that easy when it really isn't. It's not easy for the addict and it is not easy for the people around them.
@LCU Nash Despite his behavior and obvious addiction symptoms. He still has a clean grasp on his situation, despite the situation itself. If we look at all the other videos, there's a clear difference in intelligence between the others who got interrogated. He remains calm and trolls the interrogator. They even had to switch interrogators, which means the first one got stuck in a dead end, that doesn't happen very often.
Sure, he might be a heroin junkie but he's a smart one, perhaps not wise but sharp nonetheless.
@JustAnother IrishMan actually many choices a person makes can cause them to get cancer. If you eat only processed foods because you’re too lazy to cook you have a high likelihood of getting cancer. If your choose to smoke cigarettes you have a high likelihood of getting cancer…. So yes getting cancer CAN be a choice. Not always, as there’s different types of cancer
@Caroline Murray yes completely true we can live a healthy life or a unhealthy life and that is our personal choice. But when I’ve been diagnosed with cancer and I am dying from it, I can not decided to not have cancer in the same way I can decide not to have a drink. It’s extremely simple but you would rather do mental gymnastics blame everybody and everything else instead of looking at yourself. I am responsible for ME.
@Doza Ditore e Dijes It's not a matter of intelligence, it's a matter of experience, as Jeff said he got through the system multiple times, I also got through the system, and I didn't fell again for it, I don't consider that intelligence I consider that common sense, it's the classical: "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me".
Plenty people have common sense. Doesn't mean they automatically are successful in society. matter fact common sense seems like a negative for most places now days. People want sheep to work for them.
Of all the JCS videos I have watched this guy is a genius compared to all the others. -He refuses to talk to the cops, which will lead him to incriminate himself. -He knows the cops are out to get him. -He asked for a lawyer. -He scores some Coca Cola while giving these cops nothing! He teaches the lesson that all these videos have taught me. Guilty or not guilty, NEVER talk to the police. Ask for a lawyer. Refuse DNA swabs. Protect your rights!
I've never been in legal trouble, other than missing court date f9r a ticket, but it amazes me most people can talk their way into a conviction. Anyone who is arrested should do what this guy did. Stay silent. Especially if you're guilty.
Holy shit watching him, I can feel it. Anyone that knows what it's like to come off dope, this is about the worst scenario you can be in. He is actually handling it quite well, definitely a strong willed sumbish.
The interrogator treating him like a child offering him a butter finger and trying to take his coke lmao. Good on Jeff they tried so hard to coerce him. Never talk to the cops ever even if you’re 100% innocent
Damn I feel for this guy Having been a heroin addict myself for almost a decade before I got clean in 2014, I know the absolute agony of going into withdrawal. Wether “he did that to himself” or not, you don’t end up addicted to hard drugs for no reason. There’s something that drove you to that substance. Usually trauma. I feel for this dude.
@Emily Davis One time I was doing a scavenger hunt with my friends and we had to get a funny picture. We had the bright idea to go to the police station and ask for a mugshot. They actually took the picture for us😂 No cake though.
A career criminal once told me . Interrogation is a game The only way to win the game is not to play. The minute you believe you are smarter than them you already lost . He said you start with multiple paths to freedom and every question you answer takes away a path as now you are locked in to a certain direction .
@Emily Davis It was a trick. If you didn't eat the cake, they'd know you were feeling guilt about something. Or whatever that guy said in the Transformers movie.
@s h a d ø w b a n n e d noticed how he opened his coke with his teeth as to not pop the top with his fingers. They probably most def grabbed that coke can out of the trash to check it tho.
These are always so interesting to watch/listen to while drawing :D they're also really useful to get some real world examples of the things I'm learning about in uni. Thank you for making these!
I know that this really isn't something to laugh about but I couldn't help but smile while watching this he seems like a good guy and definitely a smart one too, favorite case yet
I like his bluntness speaking about how he got popped. I've gotten involved with cops a few times and pretty much every time you're just like "ayo why the hell is there 50 cops outside" and they start running you down.
Being interrogated while going through opiate withdrawals absolutely sucks. I was interrogated twice while dope sick. You can't get comfortable, but under interrogation it's like every second is a f'n hour long. Every emotion is amplified 100x, I feel like even just KNOWING an interrogation is forthcoming is agonizing. Same with jail or the police cells being cold as shit, you literally feel so cold yet sweating hot. I got busted in 2014 for a gun charge technicality and spilled my guts (Canada has laws that require you to trigger lock your firearms at all times unless being used, that's what I got arrested for) my 2nd interrogation was because my addict roommate took my airsoft AK outside and got swatted for it. This time I got popped for "weapons possession" when the only literal weapons I owned were knives. Thank GOD I started watching interrogation stuff because they tried to make me cop to a prohibited weapon charge. This time I knew to STFU and it saved my ass. SAVED ME.
I’m sorry that happened to you. I’m glad you’ve learned ways to keep yourself safe when being questioned. Honestly I think that if someone is going through withdrawal anything they say shouldn’t be admissible because they aren’t in a state of mind to think of anything except how awful they feel, they should be talked to by a medical professional and given something to get them through their symptoms and then the interview could carry on. It’s a physical and mental health problem, I’m autistic but I have pregabalin prescribed and it gives you brutal withdrawal where you sweat, shake, feel faint, have an upset stomach, and can’t think straight or process what’s going on around you and if I was to be interviewed while going through that (obviously opiate withdrawal is far, far worse) I wouldn’t be able to understand what was being said to me and I don’t see how it’s ok to talk to somebody who isn’t in a state where they can understand and focus. Withdrawal puts you in that state, to me it should be seen as torture for the police to hold someone who is withdrawing and not get them any help and interrogate them. Even if they did commit a crime, letting them sit there suffering is just cruel and it shouldn’t be a tactic that is allowed to be used. In my opinion it is torture and if you’re not allowed to get a confession under duress, continuing to question someone who is going through withdrawal without getting them medical attention shouldn’t be allowed. You can’t make sane decisions when you’re suffering, you’re incapacitated.
@Ren Well to be fair he has to accept that he understands the rights or else anything he says wont be able to be used. If they dont get a yes or a no then they cant go on with the interrogation
@James Blackwood yeah what does this mean, what did they rule exactly and would it be in my best interest to do what Jeff did and just not respond to whether I understand my rights? Why don’t more ppl do that. I think I’m going to just not even answer like him. Can only benefit me probably unless I was about to go into withdrawal like in jeffs case. That’s the one thing that really impressed me about how ready he was to dismiss the detective and say I don’t talk to the police several times. Personally I would be worried about withdrawal and want to get out if I didn’t do anything and I’d probably think it was in my best interest to talk to them and try to get out as soon as possible given the oncoming withdrawals
@Christopher G the Supreme Court ruled that you have to state that you're exercising you're right to remain silent. Once you say that you don't have to say anything else. The police have to be informed of your decision, that remaining silent and not saying anything isn't enough. So if you're ever in this situation just tell them you're exercising your 5th amendment right to remain silent, and you would like your lawyer present for any other questions.
@James Blackwood why would they rule that and how could they possibly rule that. Like what’s the difference. And what would the consequences be. That’s odd. Wonder what the case was
@James Blackwood No, you misunderstood. In the case where the detectives keep asking you questions and then you make a statement that is used against you, you must have asserted your right to silence in order for the statement you made to be ruled inadmissible. If you simply remain silent, then you wont be making any statements that can be used against you and thus there will be no statements to rule inadmissible. So no, you do not have to assert your right to remain silent as long as you are smart enough to actually remain silent. Like Jeff.
Living Dead Girl2022-06-26 13:47:27 (edited 2022-06-26 13:52:19 )
@James Blackwood He asked for a Lawyer. They violated his rights and intentionally put him in withdrawal in an attempt to coerce a false confession. Even the blind can see Jeff didn’t do it. Lazy cops just tryna pin it on one of the familiar neighborhood addicts with absolutely no probable cause to even detain him. Total abuse of power.
And NO — you don’t have to verbally invoke the 5th, to invoke the goddamn 5th amendment. Asking for a lawyer and invoking the 5th are 2 different things. The moment Jeff asked for a lawyer, the cops were not legally allowed to continue questioning him without his lawyer present. Period. Hope these cops were reprimanded for 17M people watching them violate this man’s constitutional rights, and torturing him by forcing him into withdrawal to wear him down 5 hours AFTER he asked for a lawyer!
I always thought a cool game show would be for "participants" be interogated by pro senior investigaters. And the object is to either not confess to something you didn't do (to get out of jail because it sucks) or to stick to your guns and not confess. But the kicker is you have to be believable enough for a jury (audience) to believe your innocent .
I haven't worked out all the details, but something along those lines. I would watch that in a heartbeat and it would be fun to try and outsmart interrogators knowing that your not going to prison for life if you fail to be believable enough.
Hold up. I'm confused. In his second interveiw attempt, he clearly uses his right to have a lawyer present . Then 5 hours later, they pull him out for questioning again with no lawyer? How does that work?
This dude is gold! He totally exposes the detectives false promises. Also, i want a lawyer means now, but they ignore his rights, case should be dismissed straight out!!
A few of us know what a decade of heroin addiction feels like lol. On my long journey I similarly learned from previous mistakes in dealing with law enforcement how to better respond while incriminating myself as little as possible. The more interactions with police the more confident you become dealing with them. I know a bunch of Jeff’s to be fair, he kept his mouth shut because he knew they needed more evidence, for him to incriminate himself somehow, as he was only on a hold. Also any addict knows uncomfortable withdrawals are. I’ve been in a similar position, fortunately with the stakes not nearly as high as Jeff has them. Respect for handle your business, hope you found your way out of the cycle.
Well a few of us know what a decade of her induction feels like… lol. Similarly I learned from my mistakes in dealing with law enforcement how to better respond while incriminating myself as little as possible. The more interactions with police the more confident you become dealing with them. I know a bunch of Jeff’s to be fair, he kept his mouth shut because he knew they needed more evidence as he was only on a hold. Also any addict how uncomfortable withdrawals are. I’ve been in a similar position, fortunately with the stakes not nearly as high as Jeff
"I am currently running from the police. Judging by the way he is pulling a taser out of his pocket with an annoyed but not angry look on his face, I can conclude that he is utilizing the common police technique known as a tackle."
@sewichsjs “see here how the officer presses my face into the ground and grips my hands behind my back tightly? Using this information, I can conclude that the officer believes I have caused an offence and may be a danger to society. In order to make sure he knows that I do not consider myself a threat, I will comply without issue.”
"This is the Lockpicking Lawyer and what I have for you today is a pair of Smith & Wesson Police Issue Double Lock handcuffs as I'm being brought to the station for robbing my local bank. Now as you can see, relatively obscured by all the blood, there are several design flaws.
Honestly I'd love this so much hahahaha. If he ever does get arrested i hope he does that so that it eventually circles back around and gets on his channel.
The police would likely be so confused at first lol.
“Here you can see i am using my hands to talk. I use my hands to express what i want to say. The caviat here is, im not. You are only seeing it in your head since this is only text•
The minutes he said he wanted a lawyer,there was no reason to keep questioning him and not bringing him to his cell. So anything they got our of him is under duress.
What would a cop do if someone being interrogated asks them about the entire history of the Miranda rights and what every single word/phrase in every single right means?
How can Jeff give his side of the story to an incident he claims no knowledge of? It’s the sad state of policing I general, let’s not investigate, let’s just hang this crime (plus anything else we can hang on him) and whilst he’s undergoing withdrawal he’ll crack and admit to anything. Btw - where’s that fucking lawyer got to? Presumably the police weren’t criticised or reprimanded for not getting the lawyer that was requested numerous times in this heavily edited video? No? Wow, what a shocker - police not held to account (is that a new thing? /s). Nice to see the narrator going along as if there’s nothing wrong with the “justice system” in police state America, as clearly only the guilty go to gaol.
as if the whole "antihero" thing didn't give jeff a general appeal, i especially sympathize with him since he looks and talks just like my uncle. my dad was also addicted to heroin and meth, so i can't help but sympathize with him for that as well.
There’s the general consensus that comes with substance abuse treatment (which I’ve worked in) is that typically people who become addicts are definitely some of the more intelligent people around. Think of all of the famous writers, poets, philosophers, artists who all had substance issues. The smartest people I know to this day were addicts.
@Bob Builder well you’re sure ain’t no Sigmund Freud, Janis Joplin, Hemmingway, or Benjamin Franklin. There’s actual studies that have been done that people with higher IQs are more likely to try drugs or do them more frequently than normal people.
@Twizted what does this have to do with addiction at all? If you really wanna get down to the nitty gritty of politics. You could argue that capitalism fuels the war on drugs, and the private prison system that lobbies for harder punishments for non-violent offenders. Also people usually become addicts due to the pharmaceutical industry. Big pharma incentivizes doctors to purposefully prescribe highly addictive medication, and they do so by paying off medical students’ college loans that they can’t afford. None of this has to do with any idea of government intervention or socialism as all, quite the opposite. Ironically many European countries that seem much more “socialist” than America have a decriminalization approach to drugs. Which is proven to work much better against addiction than our “war on drugs”
@Leonardo Landi yes actually I have, my original comment i mentioned that I have worked in treatment. In the height of addiction no, but if these people are able to get sober they are incredibly bright and intelligent. And there have been studies done that show that people who are smarter tend to be more likely to get addicted to a substance or more willing to experiment
Yeah his mental intelligence really showed he was getting shit tests this whole time but never gave in. If this guys was tortured to release a valuable information I bet he would not say shit.
Yes, I agree. However, too bad he wasn’t intelligent enough to stay away from drugs.
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Bob Builder2021-06-02 19:40:31 (edited 2021-06-02 19:41:09 )
@Albert Forletta intelligence or lack there of isn't what drives a man to sedate themselves, when others break your mind relentlessly whether it is the outside society or prison system , eventually you'll become an addict of something
I love that the cop tries the whole "we have so much evidence just admit it already" and Jeff goes "like what?" and the cop just freezes like a deer in headlights.
The interrogator gave a physical anxious tell as he leaned back. Its the kind of thing someone does when they nervously ask someone out. Given the context of the situation, if I saw the interrogator do that as he said "oh all kinds of evidence" I'd grin like an idiot and then not say a single word until my eventual, inevitable, release.
Yep, I'm pretty sure a cop is going to start listing shit way before Jeff asked him 'like what?' He'd fish for a bit I'm sure but after pulling him out of a cell a few times and getting cuked for cokes, he'd lay something on Jeff to try and jar him.
Mad respect i cant even handle a cigarette withdrawal without going crazy. I would definitely end up in prison in a situation like this and he mastered it like an absolute champ. Legend!
Interesting. Though you missed part of the definition. An antihero can be either a) a bad guy who is portrayed in a way that makes you root for them, or b) a hero that has less than admirable behavior, and questionable ethics. Deadpool would be a currently well known example of the latter.
Jeff knows what's at stake and it's tough for him to get through.. I experienced it a few times and it's horrible, being in a cold cell going through withdrawal and being interrogated.. Holly shit got chills down my spine just thinking about it !
I can't say if truly is innocent or guilty, but he really can talk his way through an interrogation room like it's nothing. This is the shortest video I've watched, and the way he plays it shows why. He's wrecklessly smooth
It's brutal even if you're safe at home NOT being charged with anything. I can't even imagine. At least his withdrawal was just starting and he was released 12 hours later, so he didn't have to go through the worst of it in that environment.
It's psychological, he damn knew no way he will get heroine there so his mind was prepared. Coke worked as a substitute for him. I did same with my nicotine addiction, replaced with a Hard candy. 🍬 We underestimate the power of mind.
I was addicted to heroin for 6 years and I went through withdrawals at home and I thought I was literally going to just die.. I can't even imagine going through that in jail/interrogation oh my god
Yeah, having recently cold turkeyed I can only imagine. Good thing he was only beginning the withdrawals at that point, hard to interact while your whole fucking body hurts and you vomit. Jesus, I really hope I keep recovering, cause damn. Not my first withdrawal, but my first completely finished one.
@Investor Sudhir Opiate addiction causes physical addiction, unlike nicotine. Read up the effects of the withdrawal from opiates and you'll get it's not as easy as dropping cigarettes.
@A K wow, well done! I've never experienced addiction so I can't imagine what that must be like, but I hope you keep going. you're gonna do yourself real proud.
@random Yeah, it ain't easy, but I'm trying to rebuild ^ ^' Thank you. I could only compare it to hunger, the psychological addiction and the effect long term use of opiates has on the brain receptors. Every now and again your brain is just like "INJECT IT NOW", and there is that compulsion... but thankfully it happens rarer and rarer every day, and I built some mechanisms to cope better. I'm relying on old friends to keep me responsible as well.
@NuckChorris What do you mean by that? I mean, I'm well aware that there are physical issues you feel when you try to stop smoking, I just feel the physical dependency of the body on the nicotine is incredibly low compared to opioids. And of course, there are worse addictions, where withdrawals can kill a person, the most abused substance, alcohol being one of those.
@A K Oh, I see. I have to completely agree with your comment now. I just wanted to point out that those "physical issues" are sign of physical withdrawal.
@Investor Sudhir Nicotine withdrawal is nothing like opiate withdrawal. I've been through both, there's no "mind over matter" coming off opiates, just seizures, vomiting, sweating, shaking... once you get to that point, some hard candies aren't going to help lol.
@A K Hope all is still well. I’ve been struggling for nearly 20 years with it. Got clean in September, found a decent job at the end of November, managed to get promoted and got a raise, and now I’m up for a team lead position. It’s amazing what we can accomplish when we get clean and work hard.
@Janoy Cresva Yeah, things are well! I had a single use relapse because I'm also dealing with a mental illness and I found a stash accidentally while cleaning (I found a few others after that, since I was cleaning the entire house, but those went down the pipes). I threw it in the trash, but had a psychotic break a day after and ended up using it. I can't say if I would have ended up picking it from the trash otherwise, honestly, I want to say no, but I can't really say. Thankfully I managed to scrape together the money to see a psychiatrist at the start of february, the medicine is working well and at this point it's fully effective. At this rate of mental recovery I might be able to find a job, and more importantly, hold it soon, probably this month or the next. It's good to hear you're doing well too! I was addicted for 4 years, so it's nothing compared to you, but honestly, reading stories like yours are what gave me hope when I decided to get clean. I mean, I decided that a few times, but this time it stuck. It was worth it. I can say it even at this point, so it will only keep getting truer. Recovery really is amazing, isn't it, even if at the beginning it's as hard as it is.
@A K This makes me really happy to hear! Just remember you have to keep at it, and make sure you keep yourself away from people who are more interested in using drugs because that’ll only bring you down. Surround yourself with winners and you’ll do just fine!
@Janoy Cresva Thank you c: That's what I did, I never had many friends, but addiction took me away from my old circle and put me in another, giant one. That giant one, there were some nice people, but I know I'd have a bigger chance of using if I kept in contact with even those. The very few of those old circle people, that I knew would accept me despite everything that happened and would help me become a better person, those I managed to reconnect them. I wouldn't want to disappoint them, but even though I do have occasional urges nowadays, I just... don't feel like I have no reason to take - I started to "self medicate" due to horrible luck with psychiatrists. That being said, now I'm going to a great one, thanks to an old mentor (and teacher) of mine so that's covered too c: I'm writing a lot about it, but today exactly is the second month since I got clean, not counting that one single use but I try to disregard that... It was an early failure just a few days after the end of withdrawals. I think if I counted from that I'd just hang up on it as a major failure rather than an early misstep, that are so common when getting back on your feet. It's not something I'd ever chance again, obviously. What do you think? When should I count from?
@A K If you think it was a misstep then you count from the first time brother. That’s where you got clean for good… It’s not like you’re going to AA meetings or something like that, and if you feel like you’re doing better now then hey!
And what a weird coincidence. Today is 6 months for me! Keep up the great work bud!
@Janoy Cresva I appreciate your answer, I do have a tendency to hang up on minor fuckups so it's really good to be reassured. It is a weird coincidence, but high five in that case! And, obviously, same to you, man, half a year is a huge milestone!
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Bill A2022-03-08 08:14:08 (edited 2022-03-08 08:14:47 )
Jeff: "Yo enough of that Coke already, now get me some smack, then I'll talk!!" :D Cop: "Done!!" lol
@Corn0nTheCobb 12 hours of withdrawal is bad. Been there. Yes everyone is different but 12 hours is still pretty bad.
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Kelly Wood2022-03-19 03:17:26 (edited 2022-03-19 03:21:09 )
@Investor Sudhir omg nicotine an an opiates are two very very very different things , u don’t go through any physical withdrawal from nicotine but with an opiate omg I wouldn’t put it on my worse enemy , the sweating , the pain , the shakes x if only coke helped with it x if it was that easy I think all addicts would quit lol 😂, meds are prescribed to stop the withdrawals , if only it was mind over matter
@Kelly Wood Too much information is not good. If you are already prepared with withdrawal symptoms for your addiction, you will get it. To know mind Power, Read about placebo effect.(Sugar pills) All I am saying is don't ignore Power of mind.
@Zachary Bergeron I've only experienced typical opiate and Suboxone withdrawal but a buddy of mine used to do H every day and he said the 2 weeks he was locked up was horrible and he was done after he got out. That was about 10yrs ago
@Investor Sudhir you are clueless, nicotine withdrawal is physical just not nearly as intense as heroin or opiate withdrawal, I've done both, speaking from experience, you need to read up before you run your mouth, hahaha ZERO STREET CRED lol..
I'm a recovering addict and this is so hard to watch I'm on the verge of tears watching this video I feel so bad for this man being an addict is horrible and he would be freezing he would be sick he would be sweating why he's freezing withdrawals from heroin are the worst feelings iv ever had the lowest point of my life when I was using
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Random Videos2022-03-02 08:15:16 (edited 2022-03-02 08:17:00 )
Interrogator: "You have the the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will used against you in a court of law.." Do you understand your rights?
Jeff: .......(silent)........
Interrogator: Yes or no? Do you understand what I read to you?
Jeff: .........(totally silent)......
The man just did what the interrogator read him about his right to remain silent.. 😅
People like Jeff because he's a genius. He knows his rights, he sees through cop's bullshit, he refuses to speak and asks for lawyer. He does everything exactly right. Regardless of what happened to him after, DON'T TALK TO COPS, TALK TO A LAWYER
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only angel2021-06-01 14:46:41 (edited 2021-06-04 03:16:54 )
"you have the right to remain silent" Jeff: and I took that personally
What is insane about the whole exchange is he actually said details regarding the day, but he did not give away anything that the police didn't already know. Amazing.
Also, this proves that we need to focus more on mental health and drug programs as opposed to incarcerating people. I know he robbed But still, there has to be a better way to help these people. There’s one thing that my father taught me when I turn 13. Never talk to Coos. Even if you do something wrong. Don’t talk to them.
a "glimmer of humanity"? what the hell, who said he didn't have loads of it! to start with? it just shows he was well brought up. just because he's a dope head doesn't mean his a shit head. and THEN the cop has the nerve to complain that he's been handcuffed when Jeff won't speak to him. "I'm the prick," could he have left the door open any wider? ROFL. Priceless. how on earth did the victim not mention Jeff's height, 6.5', in the 1st place?
I have worked in corrections for 20+ years, yes, there are many just like this guy in there. We refer to this as intuitionalized. They actually become better at these scams the longer they are in the system.
You know it is federal law that all prisons in US must have a law library that is kept up to date of both all criminal and tort laws of the state and federal laws available to inmates at all times? They know as much about the law or more than most lawyers. Their interpretation leaves alot to be desired.
I've had friends who convinced cops to get them a mcdonalds menu. Matter of fact nearly everyone does get some sort of treat from them while being interrogated. They usually ask you to talk and when you say no, they will have an offer for you. Often even say that if you had said yes the first time you would have gotten a real meal instead of some nasty soggy crap prepared by chef mike. The beauty of this clip is that the cop thinks Jeff is easy to turn over, but that's just his inexperience. Junkies are often some of the best liars.
@Wesley Hobbs dude you're the expert at your job that's a given but the fact that you chose one of the most miserable jobs in the world and you label every "jeff" you see as a scumbag doesn't really speak for much
@Ichinek Its not a miserable job to me. I am helping to kept these people off the streets. And every once in a very long while, you get to make a difference when one actually listens.
I think we got a good conclusion. I found his youtube channel and in one video he talk about how his life has been better than it was ever before. Good for Jeff.
Until you've gone through withdrawal you will never understand how the childhood you were trying to forget with booze or opiates manifests itself into physical symptoms that make you feel like you want to die or are just about to.
This man, while talking slow and sounding like an obvious abuser , handled his situation better than anyone else I've seen on YouTube. Either the interrogators were just dogshit, or this man said the right things and subtly manipulated the whole interrogation. Even used a little bit of reverse psychology. That shit can only come from years of dealing with the system.
Imagine you’re Jeff just casually strolling through YouTube and you see a video of you from years ago has 8 million views and you’re being studied like character in a movie
Now imagine a 15 year old in this situation, perhaps with 1000x more pressure, while they're drunk, and/or they have mental health issues. Been there! And they got me, before I wised up to their tactics. For juveniles they will deny you access to your parents for hours like they didn't get Jeff a lawyer.
Oh and of course the "I'll get you a good deal" line - something cops have no power to offer and are in many cases prohibited from even saying, but of course they still do it. These situations unfold everyday in America. Unfortunately most people aren't as streetwise or as steadfast as good ol' Jeff
I have never laughed louder or harder than when the police officer told Jeff that he had the right to remain silent, proceeded to ask Jeff if he understood, and received total silence in response. xD
It’s only because they need to hear him say that he understands so that they can actually use this testimony if he does end up saying anything. Y’know “miranda rights” type beat
One things that comes from going through the system is knowing the tactics of police ("playing good cop?) , not only knowing your rights (to remain silent, for instanc) and excersising them, (as he sits in silence and says nothing), and recognizing the manipulation to get what they want (in this case likely a confession as he said.) "anything you say can and WILL BE USED AGINST YOU" is completely true. Talking tot he police NEVER helps your case. NEVER. Jeff is obviously aware of all this.
I love you can tell cops have gotten him before dude learned his lesson. Kept his mouth closed asked questions about specifics. Cops had quite literally nothing just wanted the usual suspect
So basically this is the street-smart guy. He knows how to deal with cops and is mature enough to not fall for their bluffs even though he has been a junkie for over 10 years
I'm 35, been a junkie 16 years. Clean 3. I've been arrested 6 times, never did any time though. I learned very quickly that if the police want to talk to you to ask "Am I under arrest?". If they say anything but yes, ask to leave, and if they won't let you, lawyer up. If you are under arrest, lawyer up immediately. Talking to the police is never, ever in your interest. They'll give you shit, act like you are making a big mistake by asking for a lawyer. I just say they can talk to me all they want, I just would like a lawyer present.
I'm at a sort of crossroads right NOW. I NEEDED TO SEE THE LEGEND OF JEFF, AND TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ANTIHERO, AND A VILLAIN . I NEVER REFLECTED ON THE DIFFERENCE. I HOPE JEFF GOES FREE, BOTH WAYS.
"Even though he has been a junkie for 10 years" whats that even have to do with it? lol you have this idea that all drug users are ignorant and immature but i promise you, you encounter FAR more "junkies" than you realize every day.
@Anthony R I know better than you think. It has everything to do with it since drugs impair your ability to think clearly and with years of use the damage becomes permanent.
Junkie or not. He’s a smart man. He’s asked for a lawyer several times because he knows there is nothing he says that won’t be simply used against him, so it’s best to keep his mouth shut 🤐
Most "junkies" are smart. How do you think they figure out how to consistently get money for dope without holding down a job? It's sad that their wits aren't used for good. The ones that get clean usually excel in life
@James Jenkins They start stealing from family then when family no longer allows them around, they steal from a bank and get caught and ohh... what is he being interrogated for again? 🤔
@Drake Oola this type of attitude and stigma is exactly why addicts recede from friends and society. they’re not some innate monster, the way people are treated directly effects how they behave.
@Kinny Yeah no, not like I had to get my dad locked up for life for pointing a gun at me when he's a convicted felon. Life is a breeze when your parents are addicts, drugs are great. Totally didn't spend 5 grand bailing his ass out for him to do it all again. Didn't suffer a lifetime of abuse like waking up to him smashing a brand new laptop on my mothers face while she was asleep or walking upstairs to see him dangling her over a balcony by the neck. Didn't have a whole squad of officers show up at 4 am because my grandparents called in a gun threat when he showed up, grandpa didn't pull out a gun to defend himself either.
@Drake Oola yes and I sympathise with you but you've had experiences with one addict, you can't judge them all based on your experience. Your dad clearly sounds like a nasty, unhinged pos! I think he would of done many of those thing without drugs
Karl Marksman2021-12-16 23:02:48 (edited 2021-12-16 23:03:12 )
@Drake Oola Your dad was a bad junkie, boo hoo. Stay out of peoples business and they won't pull guns on you. Ridiculous how simple some minds become because of trauma
@Drake Oola yikes the amount of hate you’re getting is gross and naive, my town is full of addicts that steal to feed their addictions and my biological dad is one of those. Stolen from all of his family to feed that addiction. Sure some people can’t get help and are destined for the same path but these comments are trying to gate keep “junkies” and disregard facts… wow
It's ALWAYS best to keep your mouth shut. Every defense lawyer in existence will tell you this. There is literally nothing you can say that will help you in the long run.
But tbh there some kids who actually suffer from voices in their head who DOSENT always tell them good things aka I’m one of those kids but they never tell me to cause harm to anyone other then myself.
@Suweyda Bashir there is a distinguishable difference between intrusive thoughts and auditory hallucinations. Intrusive thoughts are more frequently occurring in OCD while auditory hallucinations are a symptom of schizophrenia or psychotic disorder
@Krunk Cobain I have auditory hallucinations and I suffer from none of these things. Auditory hallucinations are actually quite common and can be as innocent as thinking you heard someone say your name. Or one of the most common is sting the TV or Radio playing in another room. Sooo everyone is just arguing about nothing. But I think we can all agree that the autism comment was super off base, offensive, and demeaning. So carry on friends I think my mom is calling me.
@Andrea White I have bipolar disorder and I believe in weird things like thinking that people can hear mind, to thinking that people are going to hurt me if I blink sometimes. And self-harm is high with BPD, too. So seeing this guy pisses me off. And that's why I commented that because I hate when people pretend to act 'crazy'. It's lame.
@Andrea White who's arguing? I'm trying to classify terminology because people above seem to be throwing opinions around without definition. The anecdotal evidence that you "have auditory hallucinations and suffer from none of these things" doesn't take away from either of my statements whichever you were responding to. Whatever "sting the TV or radio playing in the other room" is supposed to mean also doesn't detract that auditory hallucinations frequently occur in patients suffering from schizophrenia or psychosis. I didn't say people who suffer from auditory hallucinations are schizophrenic psychos... So I don't know why you felt the need to respond to me. I don't care what your mom says, listen to daddy.
@Nada Mostafa No that’s not DID. DID is essentially where the brain has created another consciousness, so it’s like now more than one person is living in one body. People with DID can’t hear the other person and only one person can be in control at a time. Typically when the other conscious is in control, the person with the disorder doesn’t have any memory of what happened when the identity is in control, but when the person with the disorder is in control the identity knows what is happening. Very distinctive from auditory hallucinations and psychosis.
@Matthew it can sometimes though but I maybe wrong because I heard bipolar depression, which I have, can lead to delusions of such, I believe. But I can be wrong.
You can't compare the two. At most he robbed someone with a gun or at the least he didn't do shite. That croc gobbler killer 17 people and injured another 17. 😒👋👋
I feel like it should be against the law for a investigator to lie and say they have evidence against someone they're investigating when they really don't.
@Professionally Correct Were you triggered by a simple word? I feel like you were. Your caps and punctuation mark volume is at level 10. Try to take a breath. Everything will be alright.
I just came up here for a coke.🤣🤣🤣 This dude is good,a life on the streets is what we all need to keep us sharp and keeping ourselves distanced from police physical and verbally. We are all innocent before been proven guilty but yet the cop wanted him to go 1st hoping for some self incriminating evidence.The whole idea of having a police force for the good is too weed out the un trustworthy in society and cops are on that list but how many cops have arrested cops a very very very low number.
Green Garnish whoever told you this must be from some magical paradise where a Coke eases opiate wd’s. (Wouldn’t addicts load up on sugar instead of robbing & fucking ppl over if that worked?) Sweets don’t help; more opiates do
@M Y I don't know where are you from, but they do crap like that, or similar. But they definitely do bribe H addicts to say whatever the police want. At key moments.
Some heroin guys do cocaine also. A lot of heroin addicts like to add a little cocaine to their shot. But I'm sure this guy wouldn't want cocaine being sick on heroin. In fact you probably could get this heroin addict who is sick to confess by threatening to shoot him up with cocaine. Any heroin addict k n o w s that that cocaine is one of the worst things you can put in your body when your sick on heroin.
@Bushy Haired Stranger where's your comments about the fluff in the cocaine and you're getting cut dope if you're paying $65 a ball. Here where I'm at in Washington State. The worst cocaine we get or you'll find being sold on the street by some two-bit dealer will be 80%. But most cocaine that's sold in the Oregon and Washington area is around 90%. The reason why Coke is so good and so cheap now on the West Coast. Is because you got so many illegal aliens coming over the Border. You have mini drones flying things in to the US. People want heroin and methamphetamine and cocaine is not selling like it used to sell. Why would somebody want to buy cocaine when they can buy methamphetamine. Does a way better of a job keeping you active and keeping you up for a lot cheaper then Jonesy cocaine. Nobody wants to buy the cocaine except Rich college kids blowing their parents money. But any real drug addict will choose methamphetamine over cocaine any day unless there a crack addict. And like I said Mexicans coming to America now are bringing these drugs with them. They don't stop in California anymore because the welfare system sucks and there's already so many illegal aliens that they continued until they get to Oregon or Washington State. Now there's also such a huge population now in western Washington and Oregon that the Mexican sell cocaine for very cheap. So you are saying, or you did before you I guess deleted the comment. Said that if your getting cocaine $65 a ball you're getting cut or as you call it fluffed dope. But that's just simply not true it all depends on where you're located
@Green Garnish no, I’ve been in a situation where I was in jail detoxing and I drank about 2 sodas and it only made it worse with all the caffeine making me sweat even more
@Eddie Redd I'm detoxing right now and sometimes a soda is the ONLY thing that will make my stomach stop burning and let me burp and feel normal. Shit is weird. It's all over the place. Sometimes caffeine pisses me off and makes it worse, sometimes it helps. I'm quitting large doses of Alp (Xanax 10-20mg per day) though, so I know, not the same chemicals. Down to 2mg per day now. Almost done with this shit.
@The Opinionist High Quality Opinions i was on methadone....thought the same thing...wives tale....went to a dentist...and he legit asked me if I was on methadone...he could tell by my teeth
@Alina Yuditskaya I'm a heroin addict and basically we crave sugar when we start withdrawing because we're not hungry we can't really eat but sugar is a small way to get a boost of energy, until you can get more opiates and subconsciously sugar gives a dopamine boost in the brain so you're essentially chasing getting high but it doesn't actually help it's more placebo. But yeah it's energy when you can't eat anything else
This is actually abusive. Coming from an interviews and interrogations fangirl. Using his medical dependence on any substance- be it Prozac or heroin- should shit tank any confession, anyway.
The interrogator almost got him by questioning what door he came through but Jeff realized he didn’t give af he just wanted him to keep talking. Respect to Jeff man
I’ve never been arrested, but I had a bad run with oxy and morphine for about three years. All I can think about is how much pain he’s going through in there, detoxing. I wouldn’t talk either.
God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!) 🥰🤍
@shoulderBirb i understand your point, but if you're actually trying to get through to her, you should use a valid argument and not a rhetorical question that can be easily answered with a couple of bible verses...
He said he wanted a lawyer and nothing happened. If someone asks for a lawyer, don’t the police have to stop? Every time they seem to accept that Jeff isn’t going to talk to them “take me back to the cell”, there’s a break but he ends up back being questioned and there’s still no lawyer.
If I had to guess he's very likely guilty but at the same time I gotta respect the dude, cop clearly was trying to make him confess by abusing his withdrawal and somehow stayed strong, I know I and 90% of other people here wouldn't be able to do that
Being in a gown and handcuffed while sitting in a police interrogation room after committing a robbery would definitely be a good sign that ur under arrest
Jeff was the smartest man in that room that day. You never, ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever, talk to the police. They are allowed to, and often do, lie to you. Even if you are 100% innocent, you will tell them something that they can turn against you.
So you have to acknowledge your rights and call upon them for there to be proof that you’re not just ignoring or refusing to accept your rights
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Dan Black2020-09-10 18:00:25 (edited 2020-09-10 18:00:52 )
Anton Nikitin you’re oblivious. You know how many innocent and guilty people both go to prison because they don’t terminate the interrogation and get a lawyer? It seems obvious but a ton of times people just don’t get a lawyer. So yeah he’s smarter than most in that regard.
@Nicholas Sternon that's bullshit. The only reason you wouldn't be able to trust them is if they were a bad cop, or if you were guilty. that's how people get killed or shot, when they dont listen to what an officer says. My entire family is made up of cops, soldiers, or airmen. I know what I'm talking about. Take the time to walk up to a cop and ask them what their life is like. A couple may tell you that they have a family. They are regular people, just like you or I. There is no reason not to trust them unless they give you a reason not to. Be safe.
@Ivy Waterstrong lol, I got taught not to talk to the police in my official elevator instruction (for janitors) by a fireman. Not under any circumstances if you do not have to. Literally even if they are asking you for water or where the bathroom is. Here is a lawyer thats explaining why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
@Alec Cline I think it was just a timeline of events happening to him, I do not know how you reach the conclusion that he is insinuating that not being incarcerated would have led to farther substance abuse.
Actually if you do some math: he is 14 years clean, and now 36. he got off prison when he was 22. and got into prison when he was 13.
That means he turned sober AFTER being freed of incarceration. So either he was already on it when he was 12-13 or he got addicted IN PRISON.
@jakehr3 all I am saying it's not that difficult to say ''i want a lawyer''. He didnt outsmart the cops, it's not like he got out free and took their car lmao. The cops cant do sh*t when the person they're interrogating asks for a lawyer.
This is true. I got accused of robbery and they claimed they had all of this evidence and that multiple people had called me in, but I knew it was all BS cuz I didn't do anything lol
Yes, a million times yes. And the game they play best is to try and get you thinking you can outsmart them. You can't, there is nothing you can say that will help you out. And you're not talking to them, you're talking to a jury watching a video many months or years down the road.
The only way to win that game is silence, which this guy does perfectly and the cop's reaction is priceless. With silence he just won. That's what winning in that situation actually looks like. Not witty zingers or some other trash. That guy is in very, very, very real danger with people that are truly monstrous in what they'll do to him (and won't lose a wink of sleep over it either) whether he's guilty or innocent. They want to put someone away, they'd be happy if it's the right guy, but if it looks like it could fit with this guy then that's good enough for them too. Because they can't get them all right all the time, and that has to be good enough.
He starts talking later which is a HUGE mistake, but he starts so strong.
@Brandon Hancock Considering he's probably either still stealing things to fund his heroin addiction, in prison or dead from an overdose, it seems unlikely he outsmarted anyone in the grand scheme of things
@Kubomi I guess it wouldnt be much of a channel if most vids were about people saying the line : I want to talk to my lawyer. Watch a show called the first 48. Plenty of low iq criminals say this line, there's absolutely nothing spectacular about it
first they denied him methadone, which can be legitimately dangerous, then when he exercised his right to get a lawyer to not be interrogated anymore, they proceeded to interrogate him for at least 5 more hours. what.
Alas! This gift of drink, refreshing as it is, Has done sated mine thirst, But has failed to whet mine tongue. Prithee, return me to thine keep, For there is naught left for me to say.
I’m from Georgia and actually this “antihero” is a thing. Pretty much we are all laid back and viewed as ignorant because of our accent but we can be pretty crafty when it’s all said and done.
These are great. Been watching for a long time now. Just wish the sound was better or there were captions for the full video. I have to constantly turn it way up and then down and way back up again on every single video. I tried it on my tv and still the same thing. Is there anyways to equalize the sound or do captions? I know it’s a lot of work but it’d be very helpful.
Me: idk who this “Jeff” is but I’m ready to psychoanalyze him… 🤗 Narrator: people tend to love the antihero bc they can relate to their flaws and failures Me: 🦗🦗🦗 … well played 😔
"You have the right to remain silent" followed by him remaining silent to an officer asking 10 times if he understands made me laugh hard. I think he understood
@MannyTwice as in for anything to be admissable in court he would have to verbally confirm before answering questions. But you're right, don't talk to the cops lol
@Denis L well according to the law book, silence itself isn't good enough. if you're choosing to invoke your right to remain silent, you have to verbally announce it.
@MannyTwice actually that's wrong there's been court precedent that if you don't invoke your 5th admendment right then you don't get it. In 2013 In a case where a subject didn't say anything at all he was ruled to not have invoked his 5th admendment rights. You have to say something otherwise it'll be used against you also.
@Rick Shorts I think that verbally announcing your desire to stay silent by definition makes you no longer silent. That's the joke. The absurdity of having to say out loud that you want to stay silent.
@イカの嵐 (Storm Squid) oh yeah, I mean, I get the irony of it. it seems a bit silly and I'm not really sure what sort of impact literally staying silent vs. invoking silence would even have on a legal case, but it is something the courts have ruled on 🤷
@Joe Walton This is tricky because invoking your 5th in court is different than with police. A judge can order you to answer a question and hold you in contempt for not doing so unless you verbally say "I'm invoking my 5th amendment right to remain silent" which warrants a valid response to the question and clear you of any possible contempt. In a police setting you are not required to respond to them, they want a verbal "yes" because if you haven't invoked your right to an attorney or silence yet they can talk to you, but if you haven't given that verbal "yes" then you can always claim later you didn't understand the rights as explained causing that evidence collected to be harder to use.
@Nosib https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/cert/12-246 2013 case of Salinas vs Texas although some have pointed out that he answered other questions but stayed silent about the casings matching his gun and that him being silent was used against him in court and wasn't thrown out by the judge like the defense wanted to. The supreme court ruled that silence in itself isn't invoking your 5th admendment and therefor isn't protected, now will this happen always of course not but can it be possible. I would rather err of the side of caution when it comes to my freedom and possibly been prosecuted. The only questions I would answer to a cop that is interrogating me on a case they suspect me of is I would like my lawyer and after that say I'm invoking my 5th admendment right and stay silent from there on. This has been shown to be very helpful in many cases even in some that the guilt was pretty much already known, but the second you give them any information that they can find untrue or think they have evidence real or not you can screw youself.
@Joe Walton I dug a bit too and it's worth noting that the supreme court affirmed this ruling (Salinas v. Texas) that the defendant must invoke their fifth amendment right and that silence is ambiguous as you said in your reply.
All of this though only transpired because the defendant voluntarily went along with police and answered questions yet fell silent when a specific question was asked. Don't get to this point - ask for a lawyer and say you intend to remain silent as soon as the police want to ask you questions.
Funniest thing in the world is seeing the cop ask “do you understand?” over and over after he was told he had the right to remain silent. What an idiot 🤣
@Bink this is a man who's gone through a system so many times, he knows the process as well as any veteran cop. In gaming terms, he's flexing on the noobs.
Jeff: explains what happened according to him. Police: you didn't tell me what happened. All in all, a good look into police strategy to extort a false confession. Police: so there's no way you could have been so drunk so wouldn't remember what you did? Jeff: f@ck no man Police: ok, so you remember you robbed the place. Wait, what?
@Floyd McGregor I feel sad but you need to actually explain your jokes in the future because there are people here who does not have humor and think you are stupid when they don't get sarcasm.
Jeff is my new hero. People should watch this video as it is exactly the way to deal with police. Notice he was released within 24 hours & beat the cops out of at least two cokes. The time to tell your side of the story is in a courtroom with a lawyer, not to a cop who’s only job is to convict you.
I thought that the minute a person asked for a lawyer and the police continued on questioning meant that none of this was admissible - is that correct or is it state to state?
If they release Jeff then that should show how full of shit the detective is. That’s why they try the buddy routine. In this case Jeff knows the cops tricks. He has definitely been in the system and he did the right thing. Weather he did it or not . You should never talk to law enforcement without a attorney present.Because everything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
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Christian Pratt2021-08-11 08:53:25 (edited 2021-12-08 09:19:17 )
“Do you understand the rights I’ve read to you” “No” “Huh” “Yes” priceless 😂 8:20 time stamp
No robbery,they gave him those cokes.And thinking about it,isn't that a poisoning charge?Attempt to cause harm to Jeff's health.(leaving aside the very real psychological degradation the situation in itself inflicts,both ways.)
@Aubrey J finally, someone who knows the real age generation of boomers! They were the heaps of babies (the baby boom) born after WW2, inc my aging parents
@Gage Mahaffee lmao, buddy... they have had Jeff's prints for a long time. I'm sure his addiction is in part fueled by the hopelessness of his situation and it's time to stop ruining people's lives over mental issues... it also costs more per year to imprison someone than it does to attend most colleges.
Gage Mahaffee If you’re arrested for a misdemeanor they take your prints as soon as you get booked. If it’s a felony they take dna samples, this was a felony. They had his dna when he was booked.
@Kasper Vestergaard But the point is, WHO CARES what some random dude wants to do with his life? Hes obviously intelligent enough to outsmart these state thugs. All he wanted was a Butterfinger and a good high...WHO CARES???
@Gavin James They use caffeine intentionally to wear the defendant down and cause anxiety as well. It's always either coffee, Pepsi or Coke. Also why they've quit allowing the 'perp' to smoke as it helps calm them.
@🌻Tantrika Exotica🌻 They give you whatever you want to drink. I've seen interrogations where they give bottled water plenty of times. He wanted sugar because it helps with withdrawals. And they don't let you smoke because you cant smoke anywhere.
@Gage Mahaffee they take your prints the second you get arrested. He's in jail bro they don't need to do all that he already is in the system from before that anyway lol..
Samuel Lourenço knowing an actual heroin addict, it’s not that simple, my family member went to rehab, everything was looking good for him, then he was forcibly sent to a halfway house, where people stole from him, and got him hooked again. Currently he’s on the good path, but when it comes to heroine you’re never truly 100% clean, there’s always going to be that urge, it overpowers everything, and I mean everything. He will have a lifelong battle to never use again.
Dude has OD’d 2 times now, it’s a fucking miracle he’s alive, he’s just pushing on. But man is it hard.
Oh and the withdrawal of heroine can literally kill you. So he’s lucky he has a supportive family so he can get what he needs to not die.
Dude didn’t even want to try it, a guy harassed him enough, swearing it “wasn’t heroine” he ended up doing it to get the dude to leave the party he was at and. Boom. Hooked
@Erin You mean the abusive lifestyle that drug laws impose on heroin users(unless you're Keith Richards)Look up the pharmacology,discover the relative harmless nature compared to,say,soft drinks,abused or not.Incidentially,4 cans of drink in a pillowcase can be fatally damaging,I suppose it's what you do with the drug.
@Erin Really?Horrible for your body?Read a medical textbook and come back on that.The lifestyle which the majority of users lead,with abuse of said drug combine to cause the majority of horrible consequences.
@Gavin James Long term effects of heroin users: Bad teeth Inflammation of the gums Constipation Cold sweats Itching Weakening of the immune system Coma Respiratory (breathing) illnesses Muscular weakness, partial paralysis Reduced sexual capacity and long-term impotence in men Menstrual disturbance in women Inability to achieve orgasm (women and men) Loss of memory and intellectual performance Introversion Depression Pustules on the face Loss of appetite Insomnia Those symptoms are just from USING the drug.
What you’re talking about is the lifestyle of an addict. Which those consequences would be things like frequent needle use can lead to collapsed veins and infections, which would be the addicts fault for injecting, but heroin ITSELF is inherently NOT good for you.
@Erin If you need to go to Foundation For A Drug Free World for a list,rather than direct prior knowledge,then you should read more carefully.No,heroin is far from inherently good for you,but abuse of a drug and the consequent medical penalties don't make the drug itself liable for that abuse.A glass of wine occasionally can hardly be a problem,but 50 glasses a day is.Abuse of a drug isn't compulsory.Incidentally,it's constipation and reduced sex drive.
@Gavin James “direct prior knowledge” dude my sister is a heroin addict, I’ve seen enough of what that shit does to you. It’s a choice to do that drug yes, but becoming addicted to it literally changes your brain. You can clearly see on scans that drug users and non drug users brains function differently.
@Carl Friedrich Gauss: Indeed, that's definitely not robbery, in fact I'd argue that they robbed him of that butterfinger. That said, he's definitely guilty of murder, 11:40 is the smoothest verbal execution I've seen for some time, and with only 2 words. (Nice choice of username, btw 😉)
Like how the pig took the can of coke then let him finish it when he was asked.Hoping he may lock him in & get a statement. This ain't Jeff's 1st rodeo.
@pousXB not for people actually withdrawaling lol. Maybe if you call yourself a junkie but can't barely scrape together a point a day or something. The literal only true counter I've found, is making sure I stay up for two weeks straight before I get sick, cuz then I literally sleep the entire time and just do not wake up. But I also don't mix and match anymore, staying up really damages your sanity too much for my liking in my older age. Now I just make sure I don't run out, or have one of the two pharmecutical treatment options immediately handy, but even then the first few days are terrible even with those.
Anyway, only time I ever had a magic cure from some sugar and caffeine was as a youngster when I thought a junkie spent $10-20 a day lulz do a g a day at minimum then talk to me bout sugar and caffeine helping. He was just straight clowning on them cops bro. For real. He's pissed and he's pissing them off. They took his time up and he's doing the same.
@G- jaguar beast-S lmao what I was making a joke about how the comment had 420 likes. You should get out a little more if you're trying to make a personal attack based off literally one sentence.
I’m positive he isn’t a bad guy to the core…he’s the product of having an addiction while lacking the resources to receive proper treatment and social services post-incarceration. He’s continuously recycled back into a system that guarantees persistent hardships and ultimate failure. He’s clearly intelligent and has a zero tolerance for bs, and refuses to have a crime pinned on him that he didn’t commit. He has even impressively found a legal loophole to get ample Coke through popo 😹😹😹
I wish I knew my rights when they tricked me into the car and had hair ties over their badge numbers, maybe I wouldn't have spent 7 years on felony probation for a dumpster fire my so-called best friend and secret gay lover set and then played dumb on when I gave them his house number to prove it wasn't me
@Fluffy Little Bear That's a rough way to roll. You'll see eventually if you continue. The outcome is always the same. If you get time away from it, you will see that life is worth living without it and much better when you get out of your head and perceived needs and start participating in your life. You have to want it though. If you don't see a glimpse of that yourself, nobody can help you. Best of luck with your situation and thinking. I hope you can see that using hard drugs typically ends up in jail or death or severe health problems. From what I've seen, it's never worth it.
@Jeffafa Laureanti That's great man! Good job!! Keep it up!!! Talk to friends, go to meetings or whatever you need if you feel like using. Sometimes just a quick change in thinking and actions can alleviate a temporary craving. I like the phrase 'Feelings Aren't Facts'. If I'm feeling down or weak, it almost always changes for the better with a walk or chat/hang with a friend that's clean.
@Jeffafa Laureanti man, I was addicted in my teenage years, it was horrible, then some Firefighters, police, and EMS workers saved me from an overdose, I cleaned up my act and now I'm a firefighter. I'm proud you're clean man, it's hard to stay clean but after a while things get a bit easier, keep safe and away from that stuff, hold your goals high.
@kobeisbose Good point. Hard to understand if not impossible to understand what other people go through. What makes one tick? What are their circumstances are in life. Some lives are likely unimaginably difficult sober or high. Mental problems, extreme poverty, no opportunities. Maybe drugs are the only relief? So lucky to not have that life.
@Eric Y Thanks, I struggle with addiction its a tough situation sometimes I get the urge to take Heroin but the stuff where I am is also shit so it makes it even worse when you want to use but can't even get any decent gear but next time I'm feeling the urge ill talk to someone see if that helps good day m8
@Fluffy Little Bear I’m gonna have to go ahead and concur. Granted, I live with horrific chronic pain, so my dope is prescribed, but shit- straight Oxy + Klonopin every day (throw in Kratom in between) not only tempers my physical pain, it buffers the horrible misery of living in this shit world.
@Fluffy Little Bear That’s a hard way to live I imagine. I hope someday that you come to a different point in your life! Good luck and you’ll be in my prayers!
@iamcasihart Took the words right out of my mouth. It's all about your worldview. People who live happy lives and see the world as a decent place, don't understand why some people can't stand to be sober, and can't seem to comprehend that not everybody can have the happy life they have.
I mean, I could be sober, I have the willpower - I just don't want to be, because every moment of my life would be miserable, physically and emotionally. Drug use isn't the problem in my life - it's the treatment.
I'm an opiate addict as well. I've used for 12 years although the last 9 years I've been on methadone maintenance. I was a pretty bright kid in high school but in my senior year I started to get depressed and extreme anxiety and ended up using Oxycontin to cope. Of course the high that I got off the drug was temporary and it only served to postpone the depression for later. The withdrawal exacerbated the anxiety that I already suffered. Eventually my tolerance built so much that I didn't even get high, rather I used just to avoid getting sick. I'm 29 years old now and for the last year I've steadily been decreasing my methadone dose. At the rate I'm decreasing I will be off of it by the time I'm 30. I hope my 30s will be what my 20s should have been. When I was younger I always assumed that I would have a family and a good job by the time I was 30. Although I threw away 12 years of my life to drugs, I think that I can still make something of myself.
@Jordan Morris You're still young enough to put that behind you and turn it around for a good life. It's never too late really. Get out of that methadone system which is just another money making deal. You might feel strange and off for many months, but it will pass and you'll no longer be in the grip.
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Jordan Morris2021-06-01 19:22:13 (edited 2021-06-01 19:25:45 )
@Eric YI know now that the methadone program is all about money. When I told my doctor that I wanted to get off he was trying to persuade me to stay on. On top of that he wanted to see me everytime I decreased my dose. My mom is a nurse and told me the doctor makes about $200 for every appointment you have (which are only 5 minutes) and on top of that they get a percentage of every prescription they fill. When I first started the program my doctor would increase my dose nearly every two weeks. He had no problem doing this. But I realize now that he wanted my dose to be as high as possible because it would mean I'm on it for longer.
I'm just curious if you've gone through methadone withdrawal yourself. If you did is there any advise you have that could help me deal with it?
@Fluffy Little Bear that’s cus addiction blocks everything out from your life and all you want is the high. If you don’t have the high you feel like your life is meaningless and shitty. Stay safe cus it never ends well man
Eric Y2021-06-01 21:17:15 (edited 2021-06-01 21:19:15 )
@Jordan Morris How long you've been on it and what does is everything. It's a tough drug to kick. More so than H. You have to taper. I would get to 10mg as quick as possible and stay there for a few weeks. Then look at tapering to zero. Honestly, you'll have to sign up for some pretty rough discomfort. I haven't fooled with it in years, but I know the longer you're on it and the higher the does, the longer it will take. You can do it though! Many have done it. Methadone is rough on the body. It will give you kidney stones which are very painful to pass. You're doctor isn't really helping you at this point. You need to learn when your using or want to use, why you feel the need to change how you feel. Since you started young, you will have some challenges. Maybe check out some meetings? You can pick and choose through the people and find someone that's solid and wants to help. There's good and bad in those rooms, but at least the goal is get clean and stay clean. There's unfortunately no easy answer. Once on a low does, you can switch from methadone to Vicodin to Ultram and this stop. It's a little easier landing, but I'm not a doctor and can't really give that as medical advice. I only know that worked because each drug is less powerful than M.
@Fluffy Little Bear as the child of an addict, that’s a selfish mentality. Drugs aren’t good for you or some other bullshit, they make you think you can’t live without them and it makes you think that they make you a better person when that couldn’t be further from the truth.
@Fluffy Little Bear thats a terrible way to look at life, obviously theres plenty of other things to live for and appreciate while being sober but whats the name of the stuff ur on 👀
@Jordan Morris it's never too late ! You got yourself out of that, you're very strong and I think you can do anything you set your mind to. Well done 👏 I may be a stranger on the internet but I'm proud of you
@Pinkie thank you so much. I wish people in my personal life were as supportive as you.
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Jordan Morris2021-06-02 19:19:07 (edited 2021-06-02 19:48:36 )
@Eric Y hi Eric thanks for your response. I've been on methadone since 2012 so I've been on it for 9 years. I started tapering down last September (2020). I was at 100mg when I finally decided to go down. In the last 8 months I've managed to taper down to 28mg (which is what I'm currently on). The first 50mg weren't to bad, but when I went from 50mg to 45mg the withdrawals started to hit me pretty hard. I've gone to NA meetings in the past but unfortunately, it's become a place where addicts go to find new dealers, rather than get help. I've gone to AA meetings as well, and although I'm not an alcoholic, I find they are much more encouraging and respectful than NA.
I'm curious about kidney stones. I haven't had them yet but are you more likely to get them when you're off methadone or while you're still on it?
@Jordan Morris on or off. They form while taking it. AA is good. Whatever works! Keep working down and you'll be surprised when you're out of the trap. Shame on the doc for ever putting you on more than 20~30mg. It's not necessary to take more. Don't get into Suboxone either. It's no good. Same difficult withdrawal as M.
@Fluffy Little Bear Absolutely on the same page with you. Seriously. And I’m the same. I, too, have the willpower, but fuck it. Everything hurts too much, both emotionally and physically. I feel too much and too strongly, and this world is so often cruel and shitty. I love my music. I love animals. I love art. And I prefer to be a little bit “high” or “stoned.”
They just keep dragging guy outta the cell and giving him cokes. He drinks the coke, doesnt sign anything, then says "take me back to the cell". Fantastic.
Remember though that each time he gets out the cell for interview he is further into withdrawals. Heroin addiction makes you need lots of sugar (don’t ask me why, it’s a strong craving) the police are using (or hoping) to use his withdrawals to get him to crack. It’s like being in hell when you get nicked and got a habit. Jeff is actually a pro with these guys and they know it.
@naturallylula uh... the most assuredly already have his finger prints... the do that when they don't have probable cause and don't have a warrant to demand his prints or DNA, not when hes already locked up, and has already been through the system... hes had his prints taken multiple times. DNA too
Alexander Carder it’s not a craving. Sugar helps dull the ache a bit since it forces your body to release endorphins similar to getting high. This isn’t a “well actually “ I’m speaking from many years down that same path. I got my Platinum in heroin long ago.
squirrel7t7 it’s 24 hours in the US if they are detaining you, but they stated he was under arrest. Which means he’s being charged, so they can hold him up to 48 before he has to go in front of a judge, where they discuss terms of bail. If he doesn’t receive bail he will be held in jail leading up to and during trial. So quite possibly he wouldn’t get to go home. In the U.S. probable cause is needed to arrest and charge. Him admitting his crimes would make it nearly impossible for him to be found not guilty though, so police always try and get a confession.
@CLINCH CHEESE yes, I'm just saying that would be my reaction. But if that' s true then better only repeat over and over that you want a lawyer and nothing more.
Jeff's like "I was to smacked out of my mind to do an armed robbery!" Can you imagine a high heroin addict trying to rob a place all nodded out and shit?
I was a heroin addict at one point , NEVER STOLE OR VIOLATED THE PUBLIC FOR MONEY THO but going to jail was my WORST NIGHTMARE, I went thru withdrawals in there (also asked for methadone and they laughed) it was the most excruciating thing I’ve ever been thru. I’ve been clean 8 YEARS now :)
I was on fentanyl and went to jail ik what you me that is hell. You can't sleep at all, body aches and shakes and they dont give a fuck and treat addicts worse. No methadone or suboxone. But alcoholics get valium and shit for their withdrawals in there
Same here except I just learned how to afford it & use it as if were prescribed...a regiment and discipline. lol so I been using every day 6 years now.
@Mike Garrett Congrats, my friend, for sobriety. I know how hard it is... I'm a sober alcoholic, and I was in jail for 36 hours for a DUI. No, they didn't give me any benzo, but at least I lived. Alcohol withdrawal can lead to fatal convulsions, whereas I've heard that heroin withdrawal, while pretty awful, is not fatal even if you feel it will be!! That said, sobriety is a difficult bird to catch, but when you keep it, at least you can think, talk, make and carry out plans, love, be a real parent/son/daughter/wife/husband /friend. For us addicts, that's the end of the story. As someone further down says, "Keep pushing and don't look back."
@Fran Buckley congrats to you too. Idk why they didnt give you anything for it bc theyre supposed to give alcoholics something bc they can die from it. I feel bad for any addict that has ti withdrawal in jail bc it sucks no matter what you're on
Well done you! Jehovah God made it so you were taken to a place where you had no access to your drugs, it was the only way to have you stop damaging the beautiful body he gave you. I hope you've given him thanks and praise! 😁
You've been given an opportunity to have everlasting life by giving your life to God...many won't have that opportunity as I'm sure you know people who are still dealing with their own private hell, but you've seen the light 😌 God bless you! May He continue to bless you! 🙏👍
It’s fun to pretend you don’t understand for an absurdly long time. They cannot move forward until you understand. Then after hours you say “oh I understand now: that I need a lawyer.” Then remain silent forever.
I had a Jeff robbed and killed my Twin brother. Knowing my brother, confinement wouldn’t have been what he wanted since he was involved with community outreach and a Jeff is who killed killed him. Strung out. Self medicating to escape the bullying of “The System” backing him into a corner to either rob, kill or steal to fund their system because Their system works faster than the world’s system. Back on track. So my family claims to have cut all ties with me as if they’ve ever been relevant to me since age 15 which I’m now 40. I don’t ask them for nothing, don’t attend nothing, (they’ve never seen my 12 and 11 year old kids) so WTBS, I fought against the charges of 1st degree murder. Made a deal with the PA, Judge and Accused that I would accept a reckless endangerment resulting in death AKA involuntary manslaughter in exchange for 5 years of rehabilitation, not forced, he walks free today and has to make the commitment himself. On top of that, he has to pay restitution aka (Child’s support) of $500 per month until 2030 to take care of expenses my nephew may need. (My brother wasn’t rolling In it and he was only ordered to pay $85 per month while he was alive anyhow.) and…..that’s all. Everyone agreed. He is now a Pastor of a semi mega Church telling the exact same story I just told. While telling this story one Easter Sunday I showed up. I raised my hand for 45 mins as questions weren’t allowed but he called on me. Sometimes I wonder if he wondered what I would’ve said but anyhow, I asked him….”All of the prior arrest, drug test failures, let downs of your kids, family , 7 rehab centers on top of prison time……what made you change this time around?
He said, “Humanity & Compassion”.
Someone showed him that every mistake isn’t punishable. There’s a learning lesson in everything. The lazy punished. The strong leads.
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An User2022-01-18 08:18:57 (edited 2022-01-18 08:25:14 )
"You have the right to remain silent and all these that we muted to prevent people from knowing them. We will also ask you questions so you can violate your own right to remain silent, keep you for an indefinite period of time in the interrogation room until you say something to convict you- listen Jeff your going to prison either way because we don't like you and need to be payed; I need a raise." Also two people without uniform.. I wouldn't drink that beverage.
NO, he did not. The cop had to question the subject. He did. The subject didn't have to say anything but he knew that he would still either need to try to get out of the situation by lying or by talking to the cop at some point.
@SauliusLT cool if they have no evidence they can't keep you past a certain amount of time simple as that. If they think they are close to getting a confession then they can apply for a 24 hour extension but even that will end eventually. It's not China or North Korea.
@SauliusLT cool He would be put in jail if there would be a substantial evidence for it. He doesn't have to say shit and this saved him, cause all interview does is getting more evidence.
SauliusLT cool so 2 things: Jeff asked if he was detained or not, if you aren’t detained, you are free to walk whenever, psychologically however people don’t, because they see the cop as an obstacle that must be overcome. Being detained isn’t much different, and that brings us to the second thing. Being detained does not mean you’re guilty or necessarily charged, what is most likely going to land you in trouble will be talking, the more you say, the more details you give the officer, the more likely they will use that against you. It’s in most people’s best interest not to talk, as seen here as the cop tried to break Jeff.
All Jeff had to do was accept the Coke and the cop was confused....just don't ever answer the question they ask....just reply as if you are asking a completely different question....example....when a cop asks you if you were at any given location....this is your reply....My favorite childhood game? Hmmm...like team game or solo game?....wait i always liked Red Rover, and wiffleball....
Being that broken record and asking again and again will often lead to results. Jeff is an exception, most people don’t know how risky it is to talk without a lawyer and will eventually give up information that can land them in prison.
@SauliusLT cool you don't talk to the police without a lawyer. You might think you're smarter but they're in control and can spin your story to suit their own narrative.
Well now this is the first I’m hearing of this guy. What happened to him? Tell me he didn’t end up going back to prison. They didn’t fix him up with some rehab?
Rick the Swift2020-08-07 12:12:34 (edited 2020-08-07 12:13:35 )
I'm 4 and 1/2 minutes in, have read most of the comments, and still have no clue wtf I'm watching other than Jeff choosing to remain silent...oh well can't ever get those minutes back can we😂😂😂
@foxtailedcritter don't take anything, sign anything or say ANYTHING except "I want my lawyer& I need a doctor "(don't explain why, when they ask), then pick a spot on the wall or on the floor&watch it ,simple.
@hurr durr what good is "training" when a person simply sits in silence drowning out their questions by daydreaming about whatever distraction they choose ?it is not as hard as you think or maybe you just don't know how to be quiet. If a person doesn't listen to what they're saying they might as well be reading the menu for a Thai restaurant .
@hurr durr wow ,why are you so bothered ,no need to get mad we're only disagreeing on a simple topic calm down, lol. If you're not mature enough to handle someone with a different opinion then u shouldn't comment. It's not that serious no need to be rude. (You'd lose your bet 😂😂).
@Molly's Lips💋💋 Seriously, cops do everything they can to make you to talk. If you are a mother they threaten to have CPS take your children away as you are "uncooperative". They withold meals, subject you to interrogations lasting 23 hours without so much as a glass of water. Getting in your face, threatening to arrest family members on parole, deliberate sleep deprivation. If you're hispanic they threaten to pass details of family and known associates to ICE. The list goes on. For most it is extremely difficult to stay silent. The best action to take is to simply state is that I understand my rights and that I am not prepared to speak to you without a lawyer. But they play so many mind games with you a lot of people are desperate some are in withdrawals and just want to GTFO and think that by talking it will speed the process up and they will get out, which they likely wont. On another note, in this case, surely anything he said after "I want a lawyer" would be ruled inadmissible?
@blahblahblah mememe incorrect. They read him his rights each time, thus it is official questioning. Denied of attorney present during official questioning is a violation.
The candy and pop helps with drug withdrawals. He mentioned methadone a lot of jails offer suboxone for those suffering through withdrawals. Jail is already uncomfortable without withdrawals. And most that anger I can speculate is the withdrawals because he seems like a well mannered man. Poor guy hope he gets the help he needs. A think we like anti heros because their is a chance of them being a good person. I know this information i.e. about the suboxons and pop and candy because I'm in recovery myself. Jails would be a lot emptier if drugs weren't so rampant.
The level of empathy that JCS has is quite frankly astounding. It makes for a compelling view and listen, and makes this channel stand out from the rest .
9:14 this is straight out of a Monty Python argument sketch. "I just told you" "No you didnt" "Yes I did, YES.I.DID" Literally minutes earlier: 07:56 (cop: that didnt happen, so please talk to ME, *about something I can accuse you of on tape)
That's a tactic that's always baffled me. Like if you had all the evidence you need then you wouldnt need a confession in the first place. I dont understand how that tricks anyone
@Lance Mannly Sometimes the evidence is only enough if it's in combination with a confession. Even if the evidence is very strong at first glance, each individual piece can be combed over thoroughly by the defence and potentially ruled inadmissable for X Y or Z. Whereas if they leverage it to get a confession their chances of conviction go way up
He hadn't given them a statement yet. If they reveal what they know he can try to alter his alibi to make him appear more innocent. The first thing they do is try to catch you in a lie. Once they've got you in the lie, they tighten the line and lay on the heat. By the time they've accused you, you're already too far into the interview to just stop talking. You either go into denial or you confess. If you confess, you save the State a lot of money. If you don't, there's a chance you'll get off in court. That's why this process seems so convoluted. These interrogations are very effective, when done correctly, and are the fastest and cheapest way to get a criminal serving their sentence.
what's the deal with people simply repeating a quote from the video in the comments that ANYONE who watched OBVIOUSLY picked up on? They make it to the top comments every time, because a bunch of ogres are like "YEAH! I HEARD THAT TOO!" Woopti-fuckin-doo. And the poster feels important for acting like a parrot and getting all their praise/likes, but as a result actual interesting thoughts are pushed down the toilet, where nobody will read them. (Just like real life!)
Now, please, everyone tell me what I'm missing about the brilliance and relatability of it, and how that's so much better than encountering a different thought/take.
This exact thing happened to me at school. I was falsely accused of hacking into someone's gmail account and writing disgusting things on a Google doc. The principal and the resource officer interrogated me and the resource officer told me that they had "an IT guy" on the case and lots of evidence pointing it towards me. I said that's impossible and kept claiming my innocence. I asked about the evidence and she downplayed it and completely switched the question. It's a horrible situation of forcing people to give in and confess. She kept saying that I could be "charged with child pornography and go to jail" for something that wasn't even that serious and I was in high school. I still kept my innocence so they decided to just suspend me for a day. I'm still so angry about that whole experience.
@Lance Mannly Confession seals the deal, if I have video of you lobbing a brick through a window and you don't confess, the video can be picked apart and experts can argue that the video was doctored and pretty much just wear it down till everyone passes a not guilty just so they can go home and quit wasting their life over it.
Now if you confess they get to skip all of that drama.
@Dan Gander You said it yourself "just like real life". In your dream world everyone listen to you but in the real world (Idiocracy) the majority likes fart jokes.
@x and I highly doubt ol Jeff here ACTUALLY did anything wrong but thats all they have to go on. Typically it would more than likely work if he was actually guilty
Jeff is definitely a likable guy and he's got the "street smarts". Don't talk to the cops, they aren't your friend and are only talking to you to try and pin something on you or if you're guilty get a confession. Jeff went home in 12 hours because he kept his mouth shut. If he talked who knows what would have happened with him
Any decent public defender could have gotten this whole interview thrown out as evidence because he asked for a lawyer and was ignored. And I’m assuming Jeff probably knew that and just let it ride.
Jeff has been through that situation so many times its more of an annoyance at this point, most murderers get hit with the full force of law enforcement for the first time in thier lives, jeff is no murderer, those officers have nothing to threaten him with
I believe Jeff was telling the truth. Forget the drugs, the voice and his tangible hatred for the police: all I hear is a man angry at being accused of something he didn't do. Would u be happy at an accusation from a certain someone that may be able to make it "stick" to u?
Why do they keep questioning him for hours AFTER he asked for an attorney? That is BS. AND he needed methadone or he will get very sick. That's cruel to withhold from him.
Jeff should be given his own show! The Anti Hero is someone who just says what any switched on individual who knows the score is really thinking and feeling. No filter…..real honesty! This policeman just wants to have Jeff cut and dried so he can justify his salary to his boss! He has Jeff down as just another scratchy addict who is an easy target. Lazy policing.
watch enough interrogations and yeah. basically the ones that keep quiet or lawyer up are the ones that get away with it. police are under no obligation to tell you the truth or what they do or dont have on you and you have no obligation to give them any information.
@Chris Shaffer yes he actually does, if you dont acknowledge your rights amy good lawyer can make the claim that the officer didnt ensure you understood ur rights and abused that fact to get information from you, if you dont say yes then you havent been read your rights
@Surr3alD3sign No. It is stupid to not say yes and it is stupid to then not ask for a lawyer rifht away. Some cases recently have ruled against the defendent for keeping his mouth shut and not acknowledging their Miranda rights. Miranda is there for your protection and by not answering that is more often being considered a waving of those rights.
Also while answering questions after refusing to acknowldge your Miranda rights, wven if the court throws it out (which is not certain) what you say can be used to rebut contradicting statements that you may say.
He was an idiot. Say yes. Get your lawyer. Be out in ten minutes.
@Chris Shaffer The police should have stopped interrogating him immediately when he asked for a lawyer, regardless of any acknowledgment of the Miranda reading. Also, he was explicitly told that he was under arrest for armed robbery. Until bail is set (if at all), he would be returned to jail—not "out in ten minutes."
@I’m Surrounded By Muggles The suspect must voluntarily waive their Miranda rights before questioning can proceed. So yes, for questioning to proceed, he has to agree but Jeff is just another species.
@Chris Shaffer if this is court, the judge DOES need an answer. i don't know if that holds true for "police," but through the trickery of the legal system, you give the judge standing over you when you say "i understand." etc. or so they say.
@Ed *those that get away with it or don't talk themselves into a conviction for a crime they didn't do. A LOT of people help the police get super flimsy convictions by talking. They are 100% not on your side and as I understand it nothing you say there can or will be used FOR you in a court of law under any circumstances. There is zero upside to giving someone (who is very smart, very willing, and very capable) more tools to destroy you.
You don't have to confess to end up doing time either; you just have to give them enough to build a house of cards just strong enough to convince the jury you're in front of, on that day.
@DayTipster no. EVERYTHING & ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU. You're understanding is wrong and there are many innocent people in prison. There's a reason they are making conviction integrity units now.
@Ed anyone who has ever watched a cop show should know by now to never talk to the police under any circumstances if accused of a crime, no matter what they claim to have or no matter how much they act like they wanna help you. weird thing is that in all these cop shows, the accused can be a lawyer or another cop and they are still fooled into confessing their way into jail, seems pretty unrealistic.
@Jack M yeah people should use common sense but they don't. Anyways I was put in a hospital recently, in part, for my unwillingness to talk to the police.
It was an attempt to trick him, kinda, to seem like he's a friend and on his side... but Jeff shuts him down with "You look like a prick" absolutely brilliant man 😂
Weirdly respect him for that. I can relate to being an addict but not in trouble for it luckily, the way he's upfront and accepting of what he's done I think is why I kinda forgive him. Weird how it works. Hope he's doing better.
Jeff is smart af! He played those cops like a fiddle lmfao Jeff is kinda like able 🤷🏾♀️ just don’t hurt/murder anyone Jeff :)
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Han Wagu2022-02-04 05:59:08 (edited 2022-02-04 06:08:32 )
Jeff's could be considered an antihero, because of the david and goliath situation. Popo read rights and he said he wanted a lawyer, which should have immediately ended the interrogation, but popo ignored it. He said he was a junkie and was going to go into withdrawal but popo ignored it. Although I'm not sure this situation actually fits Jeff being an antihero. He called popo's bluff, and popo had to release him. We seem to incorrectly associate antihero with someone standing up to authority, whereas villains are doing harm to innocent people.
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@dookie fingers What cuz I don't want to play pretend like they actually care.. Remember that when the put some false charges on you and you get to go to prison or spend thousands of dollars fighting some bullshit you had nothing to do with..The justice system is nothing but a business.. I mean no it's not we got that person with a tag light out no need to worry about all those missing kids and women
The one thing he said that everyone in this situation needs to remember, guilty or innocent, doesn't matter. "Everything I say CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST ME" "You're not my friend." "You're not here to help me." And when the cop says "I can talk to your P.O. and tell him. Hey Jeff here is a good guy." Jeff justs laughs at him.
@mark Harrison Uh. . I don't know if you missed the timeline, but the first time he mentioned methadone was *(at the least) 2.5 hours after the first interrogation. And that's just after the first interrogation. There's all the time while he's being arrested, transported, booking, then waiting before the first interrogation even happened. Withdrawal definitely occurs after HOURS for someone who has been doing dope for 14 years. And that's on the off chance that he did a shot RIGHT BEFORE he was arrested. There's a possibility he hadn't even gotten well before they picked him up. Of course he's sick.
The first time he asked for methadone, when he got a Coke, he was obviously sick. You can tell just by looking at him.
For those who want to know what happened to Jeff, I just found his channel from the description. There are recent videos of him going to a dentist and driving a car, so I think the outcome turned out to be in his favour. He replies to questions, so you can show your love and support to him over there. Here's the link https://youtube.com/c/SYRENGEMUSIC. Don't go there to be a prick, we don't know his story and have no right to throw judgement at him. Peace✌️
@BabyBoat 15 or you know, there's a huge overdose epidemic and sweeping policy changes happening everyday and i'm informed about evidence-based approaches to healthcare? but ok
@mermaidyoshi Erm... I think they were saying a joke about how shooting heroin sounds like murdering someone called heroin. You may be informed about evidence- baased approaches to healthcare but your approach to humour could use some work.
Well of course he does. He has been to jail/prison before and probably fucked up on interrogations before so he knows not to talk to police. Murderers are usually first timers when it comes to interrogations and fuck it up as any normal guilty person would fuck up their first interrogation
@Predo Child True but if you're a previously intelligent person, drugs won't suddenly make you dumb (though they may affect your cognition). Addicts can be of all levels of intelligence. I've been addicted to many things including heroin for many years, and I graduated college, maintained a fairly normal high functioning life, and now work as a web developer. :)
@Predo Child And I guess I would refute the claim that drugs significantly damage the brain. It depends on what drug we're talking about but heroin does not cause 'significant' damage. Damage over time yes, but not significant. Maybe I'm just being autistic and nit picking though 😅
For most of the murderers on this channel, it's their first rodeo. For someone with 10 years of heroine addiction under his belt, this is just another Tuesday night.
@Cristian Martinez You do know that criticism only applies if nobody got the joke, right? I got the joke, therefore the person who made the joke in the first place didn't have to explain it. A third party (me) had to explain it to one of the other people who read the joke because they didn't get it.
This is something I dislike about aphorisms: they are easily misapplied or worn down into meaninglessness. When you were a child and you heard a joke on television that you didn't understand, but your parents laughed, did you assume it wasn't funny or that you didn't get it because you were ignorant of the knowledge required to get it? The second, right? Well, there you go! Not every time someone needs a joke explained does it have to do with the joke being flawed.
@ThePikeyPrince lmao why is no one telling you that how you explained the joke is wrong though ??? it's like every other "tell me you pregnant without telling me you pregnant" joke on a photo of ice cream and pickles or "tell me you got dumped without telling me you got dumped" on a video of you cutting bangs at 3 am. literally the entire internet knows these jokes except you apparently.
@Heather McNally Well, I appreciate you telling me the true meaning of the joke. I applied it to the context I encountered it in and it made sense, but I am glad that I know the real source of the joke.
On the other hand, this thread alone demonstrates that I am not the only person who isn't familiar with the joke: the person I originally responded to and the person who criticised the obscurity of the joke obviously weren't aware of the joke either. On top of that, the specific interpretation of the joke as you explain it isn't easy to understand when applied to an entire video about different cases, as opposed to a single photo of ice cream and pickles.
@ThePikeyPrince well, I think at least you'll start noticing it more in other contexts and find it funny, and you'll even start making some up on your own! the fun of it is that it can be applied to almost any situation :)
Watching Jeff own these guys is like doing ok enough at driving on PolePosition ......that you keep getting that "time extended" message on the screen. Go Jeff! You remind me of my middle school years! Op!!
they have to get the confirmation before they interrogate him im pretty sure, if the person doesnt understand their rights then the answers you give to them are not admissible in court, but they can still just send you to jail and use any other information they have against you
Surprised me that they seemed confused by his reaction. I was thinking I would do the same thing. They told him anything he says can be used against him, not for him, so therefore isn't he best to not react at all and just sit and smile??
@Judita I mean the this person: me: type comments and the face. Wasnt quite sure which they meant so i just said that shit lmao sorry for the confusion!!
RoachDoggJR /Raven what’s funny about it? That you put together the emojis some corporation gave you to make a firby face? Hilarious dude good one. Some normie tier humor here.
@Lora Wiese no. It means that "they want an attorney". Which means they have to provide him with one. That's it. The police can talk all they want afterwards; ask as many questions as they want afterwards; sing "Jingle Bells" if they want afterwards. The question is, would anything Jeff says AFTER he asks for attorney, would any of that be immisable in court? Pretty sure the answer is NO. Nevertheless, if Jeff would have kept talking after requesting an attorney, while his answers may not be used against him in court, they still may very well be used against him in terms of the ongoing investigation as a whole, especially if the cops are still searching for evidence, explanation, and answers regarding questions that they are unable to answer/solve themselves
Officer Dudley DoRight just could not get it Jeff was not going to talk with out a lawyer. Dudley was hoping that Jeff would slip before he saw a lawyer. That cop implied he want to help him . Jeff knew he wasn't his friend.
@Timberly Warrington All that shittin made me think of Steve Martin at the airline counter trying to get a ticket home..of course it was a different expletive, lol
@LifeInPink999 it's clear that everybody in this situation- Yes, EVERYBODY in these rooms, living these situations seem to be deeply suffering of Borderline Syndrome.. And seriously, I don't think I would act and answer much better than Jeff, or the "Inquisitor" too. (This investigator's acting is cheesy as fuck! He looks more like "Inquisitor")😆😂. 🕵️📢 "Jeff, fhfhthrhd.. 💪💉🤡"I need my prescription of heroin medication, Man!?
@wulf77 also that face is older than tik tok. Sorry if you didn’t use it that much but other people did, at least me and my friends did before tik tok that’s why I’m pretty sure other people did. Is this too long for you to read as well.
I cracked up when the cop asked if he understood his rights and Jeff didn't respond. I knew immediately what he was doing, he sure as shit understood his right to remain silent lmao.
@Mathias B. because anything you say can, and will be used against you in the court of law. The cops read him his Miranda Rights, Jeff is refusing to talk until he has legal representation, but the cops are still trying to interrogate Jeff, and that, is a big no no
The fact that a good amount of you guys are pressed over an eye and mouth emoji is astonishing really. I find it no different than the 😐 or 😀 emojis, and if your problem is just emojis in general and you can't learn how to just swipe away, then the Internet is probably not a good place to be for you. :/
@casey dunbar no, no, noooo, just no. What do you not understand about YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, EVERYTHING (YES INCLUDING YES OR NO) CAN BE USED AGAINST YOU. You don’t have to answer yes or no. You don’t have to answer ANYTHING.
wow you got a lot of like's, the coppers do warn them then they play them, coppers lying, agreeing, pretending whatever it takes. these interrogations are fascinating to watch, green M above
There is no reason to talk to the cops they won't believe anything you say that proves you innocent because criminals lie and the only thing you can ever manage to do is say something that will get you in trouble, which you can do even if you're innocent and just have a shit memory or misspoke. If it's something good that can help you, save it for a lawyer.
@fieldy409 If you want to go in jail fast then yes, there is no reason to tal to the cops xD . If you want to be free then the only option is to talk with them.
@DUCKONAROLL NO ONE BOUGHT UP BEING GAY, JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DISAGREES WITH YOU DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE HOMOPHOBIC. I LITERALLY WANNA BE STRAIGHT AT THIS POINT ASSOCIATING WITH THIS COMMUNITY IS THE WORST THING I EVER DID
@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven it's not from tiktok, that face has been used on Discord at least since 2016, before Tiktok even existed in its current name. Kids just don't have a concept of time.
@zachary z Dude, I’m 22. If anything, it’s not very mature of you to keep saying “i dont care”. That’s cringe. C’mon Zac, if you really didn’t care, you would’ve stopped replying. I can tell by your uninformed speech that you’re in your early teens and trying to act older, but instead of being tactful and respectful, you’re being irrational and cringey.
What this tape shows me is a total abrogation of Jeff's rights. He asks for an attorney, and in response is left sitting in a cell for five hours until the next round of interrogation begins. This video should have been made available to the attorney he eventually gets.
Honestly he’s a breath of fresh air after all the frankly psychotic people we’ve been looking through he talks like a normal person not some wack job. I mean I don’t know if he’s exactly a good guy or whatever but he certainly isn’t a school shooter or lover murderer like he isn’t a complete sicko I can tell from the way he’s talking
I honestly don't know how these trained cops didn't understand what he was doing. the way he kept saying "do you understand do you understand" to the point they had speed it up bc he wouldn't stop asking 😂 I understood what he was doing after maybe the third "do u understand" like if I figured it out how did they not 💀
@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven It wasn't from tik tok at all, I've seen people use them back in 2017 I'm pretty sure and I was like "STOP IT, IT'S DISGUSTANG"
It may have been said already but your right to remain silent starts when you acknowledge that you understand your rights. Would think that would be obvious.
@Jayson Iorg I was being nice because he has a likable personality no matter what he did or didn’t do. Otherwise I would have said, he was denying and evading as anyone in such situations would, I guess. Otherwise, I know nothing about heroin and I don’t plan to know :) Knowing it doesn’t bring out your best self is enough for me.
LOL- Jeff is guilty as guilty gets my friend- he did it. I'd bet my right nut on it. The main thing that give sit away to me is that when they accuse him of it he never asks where or when it took place. If someone accused me of a robbery I knew I didn't commit the first thing I would want to know is where and when- wouldn't you? Then you know where you where and what you were doing and can provide that information to the police and hopefully go home- right? But he never asks, which tells me he either knows about it or was involved in it. Also- when you're innocent you never refuse to talk- you refuse to shut up, you provide every tiny detail to them of what you were doing and where you where, who else was there- and you do so passionately. You should be angry- I would be, this guy is just resigned to what's happening to him really. He thinks they probably don't have much of a case if they're continuing to interview him- and in a way he's right- I don't know if they got him or not but, he's guilty.
@Stoney's Dead you're logic is flawed if you've been in the system before innocent or not you'd never talk under investigation if you knew what was good for you.
@Stoney's Dead There's a good chance he doesn't give a shit when and where it happened. He knows he's not gonna convince the detectives of anything they don't already think they know. He's been through the system and knows how it works. All he's concerned with is not giving them anything that can and will be used against him. He did the right thing by not talking. Wether you are guilty or innocent never speak to the people trying to pin a crime on you, always refer to a lawyer.
If he’s that bad of a junkie I would think he probably is kinda of afraid of going to jail (unless he knows that there is heroin readily available in the jail) but for a junkie the scariest thing is going through withdrawal. The thing he’s probably most concerned with is how he’s gonna get out of there and how’s gonna score when he does.
@Stoney's Dead you dont do that you dont ask where and when you're just setting yourself up to not be ruled out. He played it perfectly you know why you're sure he did it yet he beat it
He would be troubled by spending time in there as he is beginning to withdraw from heroin, which is a living hell, especially in that environment. He just knows the way the whole legal game works, that's all.
@Stoney's Dead There are a great deal of innocent people doing time for crimes they did not commit who spoke to them in their interview, and appealed their innocence throughout. Anything you say can be and often is twisted around by the prosecution. It is always a risky road. That is why the Miranda Rights exist. Anyone experienced with legal troubles knows not to talk to them at all once charged/under arrest, and to request a lawyer to be present, and answer with "No comment" or silence. They will have to let you go before too long anyhow, and you can then begin to organise your defence without having given them anything they can dissect and find a way to twist around on you. Once they have charged a given individual, they won't turn around and believe you are innocent upon talking with you. Their whole mission from that point is to find a way to get you convicted. The approach mentioned above is the same advice that a lawyer will give you.
@Joe Coonan Jesus christ- how many times do I have to answer this same exact post? Every one of you has said this same thing I- and I never said any different nor do I disagree with you- I was talking about what ppl "do"- not what they "should do". I worked in the system for many years bud- I'm not guessing here, I'm telling you flat out what the majority of ppl do- period. You can argue with it if you like but it doesn't change the fact that 99% of innocent ppl will talk to you without a lawyer present, whether it's the right thing to do or not. And that includes ppl who have been in trouble before, who know exactly how the police operate, ppl who have been advised in the past to never speak to a cop without representation present- they still talk when they're innocent. And when their lawyer gets there they all say the same thing- "But I'm innocent this time..." Now granted- I didn't deal with a lot of organized crime or gang members- maybe they're different- but the average joe, which is by far what makes up the bulk of the prison population- talks when he's innocent. At least until they feel they're being setup or that no one is listening. Then they often want counsel but, until then- 99% of them think they can go home without ever needing counsel because they're innocent.
@Stoney's Dead Not everyone reacts angrily in these situations though. Some people stay calm and collected, and since he had been arrested before, he knew what a detective who has true evidence looks like. If they don't have anything, there is literally no reason to talk until you can go over your story with an attorney and make sure that you don't accidentally misspeak.
@Stoney's Dead police don’t care if you’re innocent or not they just need someone to take the fall for an arrest or conviction so they can get promoted .
@Stoney's Dead bro your so wrong it’s kinda funny, he has been in there before he’s not entirely innocent because he’s a junkie so obviously he’s not going to talk as much
HE GUILTY AS HELL.HE WANTS TO GET OUT TO SCORE BUT HE AINT SQUIRRELY ENOUGH YET TO COP TO NUTTIN,ANOTHER 24 HOURS AND THAT DUDE ICED KENNEDY,EPSTEIN,TUPAC N BIGGIE
@Stoney's Dead and your ass would end up in jail thinking that you would out smart ppl trying to pin a crime on you. always shut up and ask for a lawyer, whether you're innocent or not. that's common sense.
@Stoney's Dead You owe us your right nut. He's a free man living his life right now and has a youtube channel. If he were guilty and they had evidence to back it up, he'd be in prison still. They got him on a much smaller charge, but was never officially connected with the armed robbery.
That would be a great point until you put his background on top of it and then you can see that any information that could have helped would be against everything he’s ever done and his silence stems from the genuine hate for the police. Why make their job easier when you can play games all night
So we should convict solely on him being honest about smack In happy to know that someone of your caliber will never be in any kind of power because let’s face it your not cut out for much more than being jealous of this (Jeff) guy in fact didn’t you bump wieners with him in pre school?
@Just Some Guy with a Moustache aa No nothing he say make them believe he is innocent or rather: they don't care about that, the just want him convicted no matter what.
@Just Some Guy with a Moustache aa yeah because when a suspect calls an attorney and ask advice the attorney always says to "tell them everything". Are you freaking kidding me?
@Silver then don’t reply at all. I was giving reasoning there but it seems you don’t have reasoning in anything you do considering you replied and then got hostile when someone corrects you.
the supreme court ruled about 15 years ago that a defendant has to affirmatively invoke their right to remain silent. Just saying "I want a lawyer" might not be enough.
@Jonathan Kessler Do you have a reference for that ruling? I only found Davis v. U.S. (512 U.S. 453 (1994)) -- which doesn't fit your time frame -- but that case specifically referred to a defendant who said "Maybe I should talk to a lawyer." The court (IMHO reasonably) affirmed that this "was not a request for counsel."
However, it held in the introduction of the syllabus that "[if] the suspect invokes that right at any time, the police must immediately cease questioning him until an attorney is present. (Edwards v. Arizona, 451 U. S. 477, 484–485.) The Edwards rule serves the prophylactic purpose of preventing officers from badgering a suspect into waiving his previously asserted Miranda rights [...]".
But I don't know, maybe a subsequent ruling established a tighter definition of what it means to "invoke that right."
However, ignoring a guy (under the duress of onsetting withdrawal symptoms no less) repeating multiple times "I'm not talking to you" and "I want a lawyer" seems to me pretty much like the epitome of "badgering a suspect into waiving his previously asserted Miranda rights."
@Jonathan Kessler Thanks. I don't think this applies here. It deals with the borderline philosophical question of whether remaining almost completely silent during hours of questioning already constitutes the act invoking the "right to remain silent" in and of itself. The suspect never said he wouldn't want to talk or wanted to request counsel. I get that police want to push the boundaries as much as possible (we've seen countless times on this channel that, when done right, this can be extremely important). On the other hand, if the workaround for Miranda v. Arizona is to require increasingly specific language like "I hereby do declare to invoke my Fifth Amendment right to remain silent and shall not speak to you henceforth without having been granted my right to counsel according to the document I signed in the presence of officers X and Y and the Lord Almighty"... you know something is just wrong with the system.
@Screamin’ Dog CYA, dude. You can't assume that any cop you talk to is a good dude. There are tons of literal criminals wearing uniforms, man. "Protect and serve" is just a motto, they protect the status quo, and serve the government.
@John Redberg The system is pretty clear. You have to invoke your right to remain silent to well, invoke it. Simply remaining silent isn't enough. Any lawyer worth a shit will tell you the same thing. If you say "I want to remain silent" it removes any ambiguity. After that the questioning has to stop and anything else gleaned from it is no longer admissible.
@John Redberg , you are correct, it is amazing how people can read something and twist a crazy meaning out of it. The court saying you must affirm, simply means say it out loud once. It does not mean that you must say it over and over until an officer decides you mean it.
They didn’t infringe on his rights. He has the right to remain silent and they have the right to continue asking questions wether he answers them or not
@Dick Sherman Depending on the way they question him and for how long it can border on psychological torture though. Especially when the guy is already suffering withdrawal he might end up saying anything to get out of the situation, truth or not.
This is why Jeff is a genius. You don't talk to the police---ever. You have the right to remain silent. Their job is to elicit evidence from you. You never have anything to gain by talking to them.
So. This is strange. Occasionally, I get these weird glitches in YouTube comments. Scrolling down, I see your comment as "The left gets censored too... (etc) Pretty sure it's from a JP vid with London real guy, Rose. I was just there and fairly sure I saw your comment. When I click to "Replies" it changes to "This is why Jeff is a genius. (etc)" Click back to main comments: "The left gets etc" Replies: "Jeff" Comments: "The left etc". YouTube is broken. Free speech is almost murdered. Now, I'm a life long left leaning liberal type, and I hated Trump from the start. Still appalled by him, but, I've been watching China and the rapid advance of the elite globalist agenda for a NWO ('Fraid so!), I've lost my faith in the left, never had any in the right, but never dreamed that China really was bankrolled by the long term social engineers that mold our policies and initiatives, through prestigious endowments and Think tanks and so on. You must have seen those videos of news stations all over the US giving identical bulletins, and the censorship of alternative voices that's reached an absurd level now. The left is fake.. just as the right are. But it's the left who are giving the appearance of shutting down Trump, and fanning the flames of racial disparity, not to mention the virus. Nothing is real. I have no sympathy for Trump, but they are censoring the right in a blatantly obvious way. Yes, I'm a conspiracy theorist. We are being prepared for a one world government with the UN dominated by China and the same old multinational corporate arseholes (I'm a New Zealander), pushing a technocratic "Socialist" Authoritarian surveillance control grid. Check out Agenda 21, and Rosa Koire's book "Behind the green mask" readings are on YouTube. I actually wouldn't be surprised if this Pandemic was planned as a ruse for the economic reset and strategies the globalist agenda have openly been pushing for decades. Corbett report is a good place to find some well researched info, you can verify for yourself. Weird about the comments getting mixed up though, happens to me a lot...
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Jimmy Wells2020-08-26 00:16:03 (edited 2020-08-26 00:16:30 )
@Chuffpup Rosa knows what's up and the Google construct is real. It's time we stop drawing lines in the sand over political choices of Right vs Left. We're ALL going to be slaves together if we don't unite...like yesterday! I'm for freedom, period.
well you could possibly have something to gain if you are actually innocent. it could clear things up with you and they’d leave you alone if you talked with them. but i do get your point
Music IS Lyfe yeah i after most of the time. but if you literally had nothing to do with it you could explain yourself and they’d let you go. my point is it COULD help to talk to them if you are truly innocent
@Leilababy89 I'm aware of him and watched a vid just a few days ago. He's better than most, but still needs to be filtered to remove certain biases. My fave is James Corbett of the Corbett report. Here's the deal: You watch Corbett, I'll watch Glen.
@Lucas334 your comment about being innocent and explaining yourself is wrong. In America, you're guilty until proven innocent. If you are accused of something they say oh you get a one time deal otherwise if you fight it you're looking at a felony if you lose. Do you know what that's like in real life? Never talk to the police. It'll never benefit you.
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Jimmy Wells2020-08-28 18:47:09 (edited 2020-08-28 18:49:51 )
@Lucas334 that's naive. They're looking to pin a conviction on someone. They try to prove you're guilty, not innocent. They're NOT your friends. Say the five magic words ("I have nothing to say") and get a lawyer ASAP. Let him do the talking for you. Anything else and you're asking to get railroaded.
@Smileyrie James this is elite conversation skills, inpecabil social skills literally no self consciousness threw out the whole interview even tho his life is on the line. he never contradicted him self! bro he broke that cop down to decimals..he was talking to the cop like the cop was his son or nephew..he completely took over the conversation like a man didnt even leave room for the cop to debate..
@Smileyrie James my father taught me to never cop out to anything and dont ever leave space for them to pin you on ANYTHING..meaning =always ask for a LAWYER ! ..
@Lucas334 No.. even if you are innocent, you should keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer. There are plenty of innocent people jailed because they talked and the cops twisted their words.
@Hooligan "Just don't do illegal things, and you won't be placed in this position" It isn't always that simple, and sometimes it's the cops breaking laws. It's just possible, old Jeff is innocent. I know... he's a junky, deserves anything that happens... Really? Is that really true? Who knows? All I know, is for all the cops who are decent, upstanding guys, there are a few, who are bad, and of all the junkies who have lost any moral compass, there are many who are just ordinary people with an addiction, surrounded by scumbags taking advantage of them, and hating them for it.
911s73targa that’s just not true dude. not all cops are out to jail everyone they talk to. lawyers can be a waste of money. but i’m not saying for all cases. yes for some it would be smart to get a lawyer but what i’m saying is sometimes you can clear things up if you just tell the truth
@Chuffpup You've made it onto someone's list would be my guess. If a local 16yo here can hack and put into disarray the online educational system due to Covid, I'm sure a small group could pull off much bigger, or more subtly, disturbances.
I understand your passion but..maybe just take a break from online stuff so much. I had a client who once told me about gang stalking or something like that...looked into it a bit and I couldn't even objectively begin to help this guy. Either he was misdiagnosed and prescribed suitable meds or he simply crossed the wrong persons path. I'll never know.. His story was a crazy rabbit hole of coincidences and/or paranoia. It happens evidently and was sad to hear. Do what ya feel you must honestly...I'm just...I guess off nothing else..trying to convey that fucked up things happen and you're not alone? I don't know...I'm sure my thoughts are only making it worse. Sorry.. Would delete, but already taken the time to text this so just posting anyways* Best of luck to you though!
@Bee Bee Agreed. Genius by no stretch of the means. Dudes been through the system and basically just knows to not incriminate himself...or basically don't tell cops shit, accept gifts and be cordial, but you're ultimately their prisoner at this point so just buy your time and wait for legal representation. Junkies aren't dumb...well some* just alot of poor life choices
@DV8N1 I'm feeling like there are so many lists to be on right now, it isn't gonna make much difference, but I appreciate and understand your opinion. My YouTube presence is very sporadic lately, preferring to hang out on BitChute for the diverse and somewhat alternative content. It's kind of strange negotiating the Neo nazis and Alex Jones's over there, but all the stuff that gets kicked off YouTube ends up in those places, including some actual information and dare I say, free speech. I really think the Chinese are being groomed by the elite (yes, they actually call themselves that) to lead a completely UN mandated technocratic system of centrally controlled smart cities and micro managed inhabited zones (agenda 21). Bush senior's "New world order" led by the phony communist Chinese! This statistically dubious P(L)andemic and economic "reset" conveniently tie in with media engineered "race wars" to finish America off . We're all on a scary list, or soon will be. Sooner than you may think. But I suspect you know that. Sorry about the "quotation marks" and obvious ranting, but this is it, the actual war for our future, and I for one just don't buy this Corona lockstep mass hallucination. I'd rather have the flu, and freedom to be a human being with dignity and rights, even if I die. Cheers.
@Chuffpup Thank you for not strictly interpreting my comment as some shadow masquerade or whatever! Just trying to be genuine...I saw the anguish and paranoia from my aforementioned client..and I just felt stuck...regardless of what was said, nothing could be believed sort of feeling.. It sucked. Anyways...you seem Extremely smart. I wish you the best of wishes in navigating these..well, mirky waters. Wish I could learn or fully perceive what all you're saying, but sadly I just don't have the time, finances, or prowess to invest in learning more.....
Wish you well! Not sure why I'm repeating it..but years ago an acquaintance asked:
"What is a true truth?" My response...a false falsehood. .....My thoughts, our truths in life come to us as deemed necessary, and not through will alone.
@Lucas334 Their job is not to find you innocent their job is to convict you, it says "will be used AGAINST YOU" not "for you" or "may help you in a court of law". They can not use your words to help you, and they wouldnt if they could. They are not there to help you they are not your friend. Jeff did the smartest thing because there is no way talking to the cops helps you in anyway. There has never been a single person who has TALKED their way out of going to jail, innocent or guilty.
Jeff is the master of interrogations. The one detective trying being soft to get Jeff to open up “Jeff if you have something to say now is your time to talk” Jeff dashes that with the point of the finger at the detective and then tries to reclaim the upper hand by calling the officer out on his game “you playing good cop” the detective then tries to assert the top dog in the conversation “no, I’m usually the prick” Jeff then finally stops the whole game with only a few words “you look like a prick” instant domination. Jeff played these detectives like a fittle.
Nothing like a thorough spelling lesson to take the mind off the subject matter....if we know the meaning, does it matter how someone spelled it? We decide which is right and which is wrong...we decide if it's just an illusion or reality. Don't try to adjust your horozontal hold or your vertical hold because we can roll the image anytime we decide and you have no control anyhow.
A friend of mine is similar to Jeff. My friend’s parents weren’t able to look after him so he grew up in a children’s home. The home didn’t give them the money they were supposed to for clothes and other necessities. So he had to steal and commit other crimes. So my friend has grown up defending himself to get out of trouble in interviews. The person interviewing has learnt how to interview in college, no match.
@A Day I found it humorous that the person that pointed out the other fellows mistake couldn't spell either. Kind of the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? If I offended you...well...you're just easily offended.
I gotta give the man some respect for being dope sick and being able to lip off the cops like that. Last time I was dope sick couldn’t even think straight loool
@Vortex24 only consume food that your ancestors consumed not coke not Frosties not mentos or starburst every “food” I’ve listed wasn’t around 150 years ago meaning it isn’t food “if nature didn’t make it don’t take it”
@Raymond Lumsden it's just so funny how you guys never have any more words than the 5-10 word sentences that Faux News gives you. Bet you couldn't define what you're talking about if it was worth a million dollars.
After being released for 12 hours in that room and only having cans of Coke and not having butterfinger they promised, he realized rather than to rob and go to jail better to be employed in Coca-Cola company and get free coke every Christmas.. 🤣
Bad fortune to wind up at the station to start with. Half of the interrogations you see on YT feature those who come in voluntarily, never having known that no matter what they say—the case will be built around it
What most people fail to see about addicts is that they are actually most of the time very intelligent. A lot of the time and of course not all of the time , we tend to analyze the world around us constantly without relief. My analytical mind never shuts off and because of that though unconsciously to me at the time I was seeking out ways to bring some peace to my mind and body. Even from a young age I will try and distract myself with video games or hobbies of all varieties. I am an addict and I’m in recovery and I can tell you that all of the people that I’m around that are in recovery are actually VERY intelligent people. they have a high level of functioning, a strong grasp of how society works and their place in it, how to manipulate situations and/or people and how to achieve outcomes in different situations etc. Just got into some funky things along the way to finding some sort of peace and relief and couldn’t find a way out before it was too late. Before they could use that willpower. Willpower disappears once you cross over a certain line in addiction. I don’t expect everyone to understand this but if you have an addict or an alcoholic in your family, I highly suggest you read the AA big book where you will find everything you need to know about the disease of addiction.
@NFTbandit i can agree that addicts are more creative, but im not sure about IQ. also, it's way more easy to get in contact with smartest junkies on the hood, then getting in contact with smartest non-junkies in the hood - hope you gonna find more of those now, so you can tell us the difference soon. cheers
@NFTbandit you're absolutely right, a lot of studies showed that intelligent people are more likely to get addicted to something either alcohol, drugs or even work as a coping mechanism for their understanding of the world, people should have never gotten that smart and it's an anomaly which creates a sense of loneliness to smart people
@NFTbandit I’d argue that a lot of people turn to addiction BECAUSE they’re smart and understand the harsh realities of the world that less intelligent people choose to ignore. For example, it’s easier to believe a someone in the sky giving meaning to your life than realize that you cease to exist after death.
@DANI SANCHES i think your misunderstanding the term smart in this context. Galileu was smart but did he understand the world? I think you are confusing smarts to actually testable intelligence (which by the way, there are still plenty of smart ppl who turn to drugs but), when we are using “smarts” as understanding the world as a whole. Most of the time, addicts turn to drugs because they know the tricks of the world and often times understand situations and problems a lot better than the average person. I think we are saying that “smart” people (people who understand the deeper meanings) do turn to drugs. As for testable intelligence, plenty of lawyers and judges do drugs because of the same reason. Even scientists from long ago participated in drug activity. So it’s not a reach suggesting that addicts are actually intelligent people, but it’s muddled by often mind altering drugs which leave them out of sorts.
@Kabob Hope there are actually studies that link intelligence and addiction. To sum it up what it basically comes down to is people that can function at a higher level tend to get overwhelmed easier And tend to seek out distractions like working out or drinking or getting into hobbies very heavily almost obsessively. Alcohol and drugs is a really efficient way to shut those thoughts down but comes with very terrible side effects.
@Sophia Troanska yeah absolutely. I’ve found that in myself for sure. I get overwhelmed easily because I see and feel so much around me that it was like I found a superpower when I found drugs because it shut down my mind.
@IceBear310 the ignorance that you just spewed is glaring. Knowing a potential danger of something doesn’t make you any more or any less smart. I knew how dangerous drugs could be but I had no idea I would become addicted to them. Not everybody who does drugs is an addict. It turned my racing mind and my anxiety off and because of that I used it when I felt like that but before I knew it my body was physically dependent on it and then I had to take it to prevent myself from going into withdrawal which is the vicious cycle. I’m absolutely not stupid and it got me. you need to educate yourself more on the subject. Addiction is a Disease. Not a lack of willpower or intelligence.
@ronhenny yes! Your explanation is perfect. I consider myself to be highly empathic and have a very thorough understanding of human relations, analyzing situations, determining outcomes etc. and my mind gets very overwhelmed by these nuances of life. Because of that unconsciously at the time I sought out something that would dampen my racing mind so I could find some peace. Had nothing to do with a poorly thought out decision, rather a desperate attempt to cope.
@NFTbandit I'm not sure if I only ready half your original comment previously, or if you edited it, but everything you wrote, I agree with and feel as well. I've been told I analyze things to death. Even my therapist said that I could drive my mind to psychological insanity if I chose to. I've been distracting from a young age. I started getting paralyzing fear of death in third grade. People feel like I'm talking down to them, when really, I just voice the way my thoughts are formed. Apparently it comes off as pompous. Distractions included books. Then television. The phone. Food addiction. That one became a real problem. I casually fluctuate 25 lbs up and down like it's nothng.
@NFTbandit Oh my God, sometimes I get genuinely depressed when I see people as dim as the Ice Bear guy exist. You can see the difference in intelligence with your simple eloquence in expression vs his outright "I'm better than everyone" attitude.
@M Pulverman No. It takes experience (or learning) to know talking will never help you. Knowledge doesnt equal intelligence. He literally says thats how he knows it himself lmao.
@NFTbandit another addict in recovery here...i grew up with a father who called me stupid as a habit. when he didn't call me that he was generally a dude who was emotionally abusive or "grangry" (grumpy and/or angry).
i thought all of my failures with addiction and life stemmed from the stupid things i was doing.
i also assumed that the people who never "got me" (including my family) couldn't understand me because i was dumb.
after getting sober i got a battery of IQ tests. it turns out that i am one standard deviation above the normal IQ...i still do stupid things but it's because i am human.
Addiction is not a disease. If you SAY you are "in recovery," but are not using, you are likely recovered. That permanent addict BS and the "disease" BS is from the Oxford Moral Rearmament movement, religious revivalism that was repackaged as the 12 steps when they replaced "depravity" with "drunkenness" (later "addiction") and kept the religious BS the same. (why do you think you have to turn to a higher power in that stupid stupid model.) Keep believing it and I promise you will relapse because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. believe that you actually have agency and stopped because of what you have done with your life, and know you won't go back to it because it's better now, and you have a much better chance of making it. There's plenty of studies that demonstrate you are more likely to relapse if you have had AA/NA than if you haven't. AND: Most people who quit addictions quit on their own. That's another thing the ridiculous recovery industry will never tell you.
I am addicted by myself (pain killers) and I can say that addiction has nothing to do with intelligence. I know what I am doing, I know why I am doing it (I am afraid of myself and my emotions, I’m taking cover), I know how I can get out. But I don’t. This is not dumb, this is called emotions. People deal with emotions differently, addicts just don’t do That. we hide, we are afraid of this society, our own reality and the steps it takes to find a solution. This is sad, I have to admit that, but it’s not dumb. It’s just sad.
@Magenta thank you very much for your understanding. Actually I started therapy a month ago and I was sober for 3 weeks until Christmas, then I got bad cravings and did it again, until today. I am working on this and I’m realizing that there will be no time again in my life that it will be easier to stop than right now. Everyday would make it harder, just like you said
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tamo 962020-12-28 20:25:12 (edited 2020-12-28 20:26:43 )
@Magenta and yes I’ve Heard that a lot of times and I also understood it, but this shit makes you fuck up your life under total consciousness. I think that is the saddest part for most addicts. Your are completely aware of what the hell happens and this is leading to Self hate. And I’m talking so much self hate that it hurts physically, I’ve been there. People like you, strangers who care, can change a whole life. It’s not that much but out there are people who got it way worse than me. People with nobody left, sleeping on the streets. If words like that can cheer my heart up, I can’t imagine how impactful they have to be on someone on completely rock bottom. Please always treat addicts for what they are, Ill and sick people.
Actually I will update here a little bit in a few weeks. It motivates me because I’ve come this way. I was way worse, on fentanyl and shit having the baddest withdrawals in my life and I’m not going back for nothing. I handeld scarier shit in my life. But this teached me so much. When I was younger I thought of addicts like losers, now I understand what that is. We all somewhere got it, never let it come to drugs. Feelings is the hottest fire you could ever play with.
@IceBear310 bro you got the wrong conclusion. They said people with higher intelligence are more likely to get an addiction. That doesn't mean all addicts are intelligent, because that statement doesn't state that dumb people can't be become an addict.
Also, being aware of the effects doesn't mean you will always avoid it. People do drugs knowing the consequences anyway especially if they are in a turbulent time of their lives. So don't look down on them for being worst off than you, ok?
@Dan Gander It's sad when you see a "recovered" addict and they're so brainwashed into this bullshit that they are still ADDICTED to it. They mention how they're clean every chance they get and always say "as a junkie" etc and fucking worst of all say things like "Ive been clean for 4 years 6months 3 days and 14 hours" things like that showing that their addiction has become their entire life and personality, even if they aren't using the drug anymore.
@tamo 96 Keep on trying bro as long as you keep trying one day you're gonna wake up and not even think about the craving to do said addiction again. You have to rebuild the pathways in your brain. Imagine it like a river. That river is water, flowing, over time. It erodes away a path for itself and the rest of the water follows the path of least resistance. In this metaphor, you would need to repeatedly divert the water over time to carve out a "new" path. I hope that makes sense.
@toast How the hell are you talking about how somebody should get over thoughts of cravings while also in the same section call somebody a junkie? You clearly have so many demons you can’t even count them anymore.
@NFTbandit sorry, take responsibility for your actions . Life is tough, wearing your addiction on your sleeve is a crutch a way of justifying illegal activities. You leading a productive life is the way of showing you mean business
@BananaSplit What you're referencing is termed "all or nothing" thinking. It often involves using absolute terms, such as "never" or "ever". This type of faulty thinking can also include an inability to see the alternatives in a situation or solutions to a problem.
@Anthoney Degroat it's really sad you think your comment makes any sense so let me ask you people that join the army or fly planes do you not think they know it's dangerous i'll let you ponder that question and have a good day lol.
@NFTbandit so intelligent that they cannot avoid addiction to the point where it ruins their life. Ha ha no. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure our when to mug someone for money. Nor does it take genius to wind up in jail over and over again. Intelligence is more than book smarts. It is also situational awareness and the management of ones person al journey. And this guy has zero of that, only good for a witty joke or come back which in the end, is honestly worthless besides social commentary.
@Steve Broadsmith disciplined enough to keep shooting that shit up his veins without fail. or else his body will go into withdrawal and that's no fun. discipline can be used for good or bad purposes
He gave the right answers; I didn't do it, your not my friend, you only want a confession, give me a lawyer. ALWAYS ask for a lawyer especially when innocent.
Edit: Jeff's not in prison he has a YouTube channel The Legend of Jeff
I watched an interrogation of a former chief of police accused of murder. Let me tell you, Jeff is smarter than the law enforcer who's familiar with their own tactics.
I think Jeff got him on that. Because Jeff didn’t say yeah right after the question. Jeff said yeah after the detective said huh. So Jeff gave a no answer to the question and a yeah answer to the huh. So technically he didn’t admit to understanding the rights.
I saw this as a good way to have the case thrown out. The defense could argue that he never understood the Miranda rights, granted they read them to him several times so maybe it wouldn’t work
i actually got off a charge of criminal damage to someone who was dating someone in my class who was 14 or 15 he was 20 i kicked his car when he dropped her off by are school and he actually got me arrested but because when he asked me if i understood my rights in interview i said yes first then no straight after and the officer missed it and carried on with the interview the case was thrown out so not that bad move really just should of said ye i mean no haha
@eu mafia Listen...you sure that things happened that way? There are so many things wrong with that story, although I have no interest writing a lengthy explanation. But you don't need to be a detective to see some inconsistencies, but who knows could be wrong.
@GoogleLetsThisNameBeWayLongerThanItEverShouldBe @GoogleLetsThisNameBeWayLongerThanItEverShouldBe it did happen why would i say that no need for me to lie i was just trying to inform people if you say yes then no you can use that against them if they don't explain your rights properly ! hence why the officer is pushing it so hard like you say you don't care but took the time to respond i am not lying i promise you i was not trying to push my story only told why i was arrested so people didn't think i was arrested for something scum like burglary an attacked me so fort i would tell the story i swear down am not lying tell me were my story is a lie please? i was a child when interviewed why do you find this so hard to believe ? if i want to make you not believe me more i told the police this man was seeing a girl in my class and he was never arrested for it fact
@eu mafia Fair enough bud. Judging by your written English, It's probably fair to assume you live somewhere outside the United States. Which is where a lot of my circumstantial suspicion was being based off.
In the US people under the age of 17/18 get charged as a juvenile, thus when being questioned by detectives, requires their legal parents/guardian to sign with you when being read your rights. Also, the situation you described would most likely be a lower misdemeanor for property damage, especially at a high school. Meaning a Citation, which includes fines/reparations and the promise to appear in count on a set date. There also would be little to no need for an interrogation for a crime of that nature. Furthermore, if the case was thrown out on those grounds it would mean your case was heading to trial and you had a defense lawyer. He would need to bring up this evidence well into the judiciary process, which is what made me even more suspicious. There is also minimal supporting legislation for situations where 2 "teenagers" are in a consensual relationship, but is still a grey area and often left up to individual circumstances.
Also your story gave off suspicion from you describing (from my perspective anyways) you "White Knighting" some girl in your class you had a crush on, who was probably dating one of your upper classman. Which you presented as saving her from some terrible child predator just because he was 4 or 5 years older than her. And I could totally see someone in that situation daydreaming about saving her from "the evil older guy" like some kinda princess..... lol
All good though my guy. Sry for doubting your epic tale!
@GoogleLetsThisNameBeWayLongerThanItEverShouldBe so you speak my language then because am English not the most academic as you have pointed out and its the same here i think i cant remember if i had someone in the room with me am not 100% but i do no the laws similar here an they question you with a guardian here to when your under 18 but if am being honest i don't remember if one was there and i feel like i was not maybe that was another reason who knows i was only young
@GoogleLetsThisNameBeWayLongerThanItEverShouldBe nah it wasn't like that only seen the end of of your big script then no i was not white knighting the girl i didn't get on with her either and she was not happy with us abusing her man obviously we use to shout nonce to him everyday i was no hero or was not trying to be but unlike you i seem to think a man dropping a year 10 no older than 15 off in a car when he is 20 is wrong in my eyes maybe not yours? you digging deep into my story bloody hell wish i never said it now getting accused of all kinds and you not from here but telling me i how uk police are you know any crime gets investigated especially when he'd making an insurance claiming all these damages i have no reason to lie and why would i it was not about my story! just what i said by mistake what got me off police interview people for criminal damage in this country i went to fuking court over it it only got threw out after first court appearance that error did not get found out till after the first court date but if you don't believe me i dont really care as i dont no who you are i have done my best to tell you what happened i no why your attacking me because you think i was acting like a hero when infact i was not doing it for the girl just to terrorise the man so no am no saint was 15 but think my morals were in the right place
@eu mafia No worries my friend. Sorry for giving you a hard time. I wasn't trying to be rude when I made an observation to your English typing. I genuinely thought maybe English was a second language for you, and that you were referring to a legal procedure I'm not familiar with. Not always the easiest to convey intent though typing online, and that includes me at times also. Wasn't questioning your "Academics" just your typing skill (bad typing doesn't mean your stupid) so no sweat.
Honestly I think a lot of my misinterpretation was attributed to the lack of punctuation in your first paragraph. Was a big run on sentence, so I had to stop a few times to read it again.
Just to clarify, so you are from the UK then is that what you were saying? That's what I was implying about living outside the US and different legal procedures which would make sense then.
Regardless, it's all good man. Really isn't a huge deal, wasn't my intention to ruin your day... Take care!
@GoogleLetsThisNameBeWayLongerThanItEverShouldBe no worries mate ye my typing skills and punctuation isn't my strong point i just type haha no worries all the best for the future
what's the deal with people simply repeating a quote from the video in the comments that ANYONE who watched OBVIOUSLY picked up on? They make it to the top comments every time, because a bunch of ogres are like "YEAH! I HEARD THAT TOO!" Woopti-fuckin-doo. And the poster feels important for acting like a parrot and getting all their praise/likes, but as a result actual interesting thoughts are pushed down the toilet, where nobody will read them. (Just like real life!)
Now, please, everyone tell me what I'm missing about the brilliance and relatability of it, and how that's so much better than encountering a different thought/take.
@Dan Gander i imagine a majority of us think this but don’t verbalize it; however, these things are an eventuality, as the internet is a complicated and diverse ecosystem. just remember that the people who aren’t liking those types of comments are similar in dogma to you, so think to yourself that you instead must simply make the observation and move on, for the exclamation of a given only serves those most involved in a solution :)
@Pam Ellwood I think honestly its just too uncomfortable to do that since they know you're lying. And we all have a sense of fairness. Like we'd concede 'yes I understand, but I'm not saying anything else'
i believe this guy for one thing, they've arrersted him countless times before and never interrogated him this long before so that just kept playing in my mind why not arrest him jail him n be done with it. it makes sense
@We Remotely Low I've been stolen from by addicts like this, and seen them ruin their families. Cops tend to be manipulative and untrustworthy, and so do people that have been addicted to heroin for 10 years. There's obvious exceptions but I don't see anything about this guy that stands out as being different. Also, I was having a particularly unempathetic day. I don't feel that the man being judging or hateful of himself or his situation as something that should yield more empathy from me. I'm sorry for my use of language not being understanding of other's emotional needs.
Injustice is happening to Cameron in front of millions of people but no one stands by him How long do innocent young people suffer in prison? This won't make the world a better place. Prison won't be a fix. What is this torment that we see by the policeman, especially during the interrogation of the prisoner. Be kind. They are human beings like you. The world has become so frightening, condemning the innocent. I will pray for freedom for every prisoner around the world. Sacrifice him that damn judge and those unfair courts in Florida Justice for cameron herrin🗽🙏🏻
People actually think this was a role for Christian Bale. But that's a fairytale. He actually lost his shit after his starring role in American Psycho, got addicted to heroin, started robbing places, suffered an identity crisis, changed his name to Jeff, and here we are. Sad
I didn’t finish going off on my soapbox. Often times the social and legal consequences that addicts face, incarceration included, are much worse than the effects of the drugs themselves. Jails and prisons should all offer methadone, suboxone and other may drugs to inmates dependent on opiates but the fact is right now they aren’t. They don’t fucking care.
Us addicts in recovery have a saying, JID. Stands for Jails, Institutions, or Death. If you don’t get off the stuff those are the only places you can end up.
This guy is pretty cool. But it surprises me how many people fawn over him just for that, while figuratively yelling for the most disproportionate punishment for others who rob, pulls guns on people etc.,
that actually makes a lot of sense. i assume he was on the streets for years and had to deal a lot with cops and the law, especially being a heroin addict. murderers often have no record of such things (example is chris watts, who was charged for the first time in his life). watts had a normal life until the moment he killed his family, and probably never thought about being investigated once, but jeff must have had already so many encounters that he is a true pro. probs to him.
Because he's not a murderer. Those people think they're smarter than everyone and get caught and don't know what to do. This guy has been around cops and in trouble and around people like himself that tell him nuances of what to do and what not to do for basically his whole life. He's a different breed than those lowlife people that murder because of their ego and think they're a step above everyone
It’s simple… if your a murder the. Chances are you aren’t being run through the system constantly… it would likely be a a one and done thing or very minimal thing… now a heroin addiction of over a decade… well chances are they have been run through the gamut or the system chewed up and spit out, all because America’s “war on drugs”.. this is the same reason that on average people who have been convicted of a a severe drug crime can and usually will do more time than someone who abuses woman and children. Etc etc…sad but unfortunately true
@Grant Reinhart if anything I implied murderers are dumb lmao, it’s impressive he’s able to keep his story persistent even with all the different psychological tactics that they use lool
@Meral I just saw an interview with a criminology guy from the UK. Their bigges expert on serial killers and those kind of psychos (Chris Watts, I count him with them). He said what they often had in common was no sense of humor, implying they where really, really socially stupid. He had never met a psychopath killer that was the charming handsome type, and he had interviewed them all. He said they where more really creepy. Many he said was very clingy and needy people.. More than that many have never encountered the police, I believe it is more their mantal health making them look so stupid in police interrigations.. I at least cannot remember one of them seeming like a normal smart guy.
@Meral Very much this. There's also the fact that he knows he didn't do what they're accusing him off, so the lack of guilt and fear makes him much harder to manipulate.
Alot of murderers do it for the attention because they think it'll make them famous. Which in a way it does. But addiction isnt for anyone else. It's you doing it because you want to do it.
The types of disordered people that commit murder are the epitome of self centered. They love to feel powerful, important, love to deceive others, and love the sound of themselves talking. Nothing moves them more than their own sad stories. They get off on specialists picking them apart, asking them questions about why, how, what, where, when. Its time for their greatest performance. "I struggle, Im sad, my life is a nightmare, my childhood was bad, I committed a crime and now I feel important, smart, powerful". They can't stop themselves, not talking completely escapes their logic. Even if they know they shouldn't its still too exciting.
I feel like murderers are usually sociopathic or psychopathic and feel that they’re uniquely able to deceive or manipulate people because they’re able to do it in their own personal lives. It would take a lot of arrogance to think that you are entitled to kill another person to begin with
@Rashad Avery it's frustrating because of this human emotion called empathy, you can tell Jeff isn't an actual monster live most of the people who get interviewed and doesn't deserve the life he's living. Seeing anyone in a poor situation should make you feel bad if your a normal person
@GuessImTj Na why would I feel bad for somebody I don’t even know lol plus he chose to do drugs I smoke weed an never once thought of doing hard drugs not once no matter what I’m going through
@Rashad Avery “why would I feel bad for somebody I don’t even know lol” - that’s a scary thing to hear. Are you a sociopath or something? You seem to lack empathy.
@Eris Gh0sted ok was that supposed to be an insult? If so it didn’t bother me 🤣😂
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Cami Kaye2021-10-08 22:14:05 (edited 2021-10-08 22:16:01 )
@[A]ddiction no. not at all. i don’t care about him in a personal way, but i have empathy for every human being, even the most vile of people. i have people i absolutely despise but still feel empathy towards. i don’t know this man, i don’t like him nor do i dislike him. but he is human. i like to remember that, at the core, we are all humans and should be treated as such.
we are largely a product of our environment, of which we don’t have much control. i empathize majorly with anyone who was forced to live through such hardships.
@Cami Kaye Perfectly put. I don’t understand how people lack basic empathy and then act as if that’s the “normal thing”. It will always be strange to me
im born in a shit environment , i have 2 jobs and went to med school dont complain and blame where and who gave birth to you , its your responsibility to make it in life a looser or a winner
they do see it, it's obvious. they simply don't just let you go after you remain silent past a question, they try wear you down.. for example he wasn't released for 12 hours
Bcs sometimes the language they use is hard to understand. They need verbal confirmation before they can continue reading off the rest of his rights. If he says he didn’t understand what they meant, courts would have to throw out any evidence gotten from the interrogation.
Because legal procedure dictates you can't just say "he looked like he understood his rights" in court because that's extremely arbitrary and subjective. How did you not see that?
Also, the right to stay silent applies to questions that may incriminate him or be used against him in court. He needs to confirm that he knows his rights in some way and being silent in that regard is not what the right is made for.
They see it, but they want him so slip up and say something the wrong way so they can nail him to the wall. Interrogation is easier than really searching for criminals. They don't even bother to look for any of the missing kids either.
seems like its not his first rodeo and he saw first or second hand what talking to the cops gets you as a heroin junky. His best course of action would have been just to remain silent like he tried to do in the beginning.
No... he is a drug addict who can't seem to do anything but stay addicted to drugs, lie, cheat and steal. He has no merit and there is nothing to cheer on here. He requires rehabilitation or needs to stay in a cell till he dies.
@Bella Rosewood Why do you think that just because someone is addicted they can't be smart? Addiction is a mental illness, as is depression. And he's a heroin addict, not an alcohol addict, meaning that he could probably life his whole life with this addiction without getting severe brain damage or something.
@kul 2 so instead of feeling awkward you'd let the investigators coerce you into a confession as they are your friends, they know best and they are there to help you
People don't fall for it, they just think they are smart enough to not incriminate themselves. The truth is though that everyone is susceptible to interrogation techniques. Some folks may not incriminate themselves but they will reveal information that the cops can use.
Yeah all the other dumb people not realize they are the prime suspects in the interrogation room 🤣🤣🤣 this guys knew you’re good cop bad cop and you want a confession from me
@Erica Mercado exactly. If you're not there as a witness then you are a potential suspect. The police don't want to help them. They are just doing their job trying to get a confession as you say
God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
@olivia gracewhilst your entitled to your beliefs, I'm not interested in your religious propogander. As far as I'm concerned religion is a control mechanism for gullible weak minded people that need to be led in life. I'm not going to be told how to live my life based on a 2000 year old story book about a magical sky fairy, who if does exist seems to be allowing an awful lot of pain and suffering in the world. You may want to dedicate your life to worshipping that but I don't. There are many religions in the world, they can't all be right, What makes you so sure yours is the correct one?
Just about everybody is addicted to something. The chemical known as "heroin" isn't any more harmful to the body than caffeine in appropriate doses. It's the "war on drugs" mentality and the stigma around it that causes most of the damage. That's what's a crying shame
I agree that he's not stupid, and I do like him.. but I always thought the metaphor "good head on their shoulders" referred to clarity of mind and goal-oriented behaviour, which I would not attribute to Jeff.
@Myata Myatnya Obviously, I didn't say they were the same, and I didn't even mention coffee at all. Did you know that an excessive amount of caffeine is bad for your heart and can kill you?
@Nekrone Schwartz an excessive amount of anything can kill you. bet if I eaten a big shitton amount of nice healthy vegetables I'd also die. good that nobody would actually willingly eat that much food/drink that much coffee, so it's kinda harmless anyway
@Myata Myatnya About 10 grams of caffeine can kill the average person. A tablespoon of sugar weighs 12 grams. A tablespoon of sugar won't harm the average person, but a tablespoon of caffeine will kill
@Nekrone Schwartz just gonna completely gloss over the potential for physical addiction in heroin and the other drugs and tolerance build-up huh. There are some drugs that I don't think should be part of the "war" narrative but heroin sure as hell isn't one of them
@deathendz Drugs like caffeine and nicotine build up tolerance too and cause physical addiction. You might not know this, but heroin was legal once and was sold by Bayer - the same company that makes aspirin. It wasn't that big of a deal at the time, and was nothing like the devastation that's occurred since the "war on drugs"
@Nekrone Schwartz yes I do know it the same way I know that coke had actual coke in it back in the day as well. They were removed for the same reason why codeine is gradually being phased out from cough medications because they had a huge propensity for tolerance build-up and addiction and subsequently, abuse. They act strongly and if I recall, way differently on the dopaminergic receptors than most other drugs and your brain self corrects much more quickly on them leading to a dependency on a way larger level than other drugs. And their side effects? The only other drug that has withdrawal symptoms as bad as or even worse than heroin that I know of is alcohol. No caffeine or nicotine? What's the worse that could happen? A little anxiety? Insomnia?
No heroin? Cramps, vomitting, profuse sweating, possible seizures among others. Withdrawal symptoms so bad that people actually need the drug just to stop them.
The craving it can cause is so unbelievably strong and the drug does so much damage that I agree with the "war on heroin". I mean, I'm willing to bet never in the history of humans has there been a marijuana addict that goes to rob a bank to fuel his addiction or a nicotine addict that murders someone for a pack of cigarettes just so he can get his nicotine fix. But heroin sure as shit has led to these outcomes before.
@Nekrone Schwartz this comment is nauseatingly damn stupid. You’re trying to say the damage of heroin is done by “stigma” and that’s it? If there were no “stigma”, heroin addicts would be in peak physical shape and have none of the problems heroin addiction causes? Let me tell you something about your “caffeine is just as harmful as heroin!” thing. My father consumed caffeine for decades. Coffee and Red Bull were his favorites. Never killed him, never causes withdrawals or physical issues. THEN when I was 12/13, he became addicted to heroin. Within a short span of time, he lost a large amount of weight, would vomit and shake whenever he tried to stop, and had to wear long sleeves at all times because his arms were covered in track marks. He died a matter of feet away from my sleeping siblings and I (I was 13) and left us to wake up to our mom picking us up crying and a house surrounded by police cars. Like… I had to wake up and the first words I hear are “come on, I’m taking you home, daddy died last night”. And you’re gonna look at me deadass and tell me that his caffeine consumption was as destructive and harmful as his heroin consumption? Sometimes when y’all try to be “woke”, you just sound fcking idiotic
@Ben Franklin Inanimate object didn't make you do anything, you chose to do that! Regardless of how harmful you think heroin is, take a tablespoon of caffeine and you will be dead
@Nekrone Schwartz I would agree, if it wasnt for the fact that a majority of hard drugs are being cut with Fentynl and Carfentynl(if they can get it) which even medically dispersed is in a patch that's 500 micrograms with a dose release over 12 hours via patch. With the current ecosystem I believe that one could reasonably assume that due to the cutting of diethylmorphine with fentynl would indeed make the substance far less than safe.
If the drugs were not being cut commonly (according to public sources such as drug dealers AMAs, news stories, vice in depth videos, etc ) I'd completely agree with your statement as it is relatively inert when used properly(as in medical morphine not street morphine like heroin), as morphine is still a damn good chemical for the job.
The fact that illicit drugs are cut with extremely toxic substances (i.e. carfentanyl) strengthens my point.
If said drugs weren't illegal; people that need them could buy them at a pharmacy and they wouldn't have to worry about it being cut with potentially lethal substances.
If we're talking about what an appropriate dose of carfentanyl would be for someone, it's unlikely that it would be used for human consumption in the first place since fentanyl would be easily affordable and available. Carfentanyl would of course still be appropriate when treating elephants or other large animals.
@abzd The addiction probably started much earlier, you just didn't notice back then and it seems you are still unable to understand the obvious by now. Sounds idiotic as well.
I know he's a criminal but when he gets asked how long he's been on drugs and he says "long time" you can hear that sadness in his voice. Like he's lost all hope.
@Cameron Grant oh don't get me wrong! I a low life, beyond all measure! I've done things that are unforgivable even by my own standards. But I've met people on both sides of the law who were good, and people who were bad. But a criminal violates the law, not morality. You have to remember to keep right and wrong, legal and illegal, separate.
yeaa. right. and in the same moment you can see specific nervous foot clench which he did. feet are the most "truthtelling" parts of the body, which is very hard to control and "professional liars" usually don't pay attention to learn to control that part. back to the topic: he clench feet just after he said that phrase - it can mean, just as you think "great sadness" but it can also mean "yeaa, that sounded cool" - which was my first thought. he's a junky, he lives from telling lies to normal ppl and he's professional after whole these years. if you never knew that kind of ppl, then u can just believe me, but i don't expect you to.
Most heroin addicts would get clean if they could, and if there was anything else left in their lives. Without anything else, they don't have the will to get clean even though they know the drugs make it impossible to have anything else. It's a really vicious cycle.
@Cameron Grant I'm not misunderstanding anything. You asked a really clear question and I gave you a really clear answer. It's not my problem if the only way you can justify your own flouting of the law is by projecting your own issues onto others. Cars have a speedo for a reason, try looking at it more often 🙄
@Cameron Grant how many times do I have to say that I'm not 100% certain but to the best of my knowledge? I've asked you for examples and instead you've just tried to attack me. Take your weird issues elsewhere.
@Cameron Grant fussing? You're the one refusing to believe that I never went over the speed limit. Incredible how many people have selective memory on here.
@Cameron Grant oh yeah you haven't resorted to insults at all lmao. Sad that you have nothing better to do than berate someone who doesn't break the law.
@Cameron Grant I never said I was 100% perfect. I said I'd never gone over the speed limit. Because I know how to use my eyes and look at the speedo. You seem awfully interested in whether it's past my bad time or I've had my afternoon snack for someone who isn't name calling or berating.
@Cameron Grant being a disingenuous trog doesn't make you cool. Also, primary school children aren't allowed to drive. You'd think someone with so much objective truth on their side would know that.
@Cameron Grant no, you just said everything but those specific words, knowing you could feign innocence, which makes you disingenuous and you're well aware of it. Go away.
@mydogeatspuke because you believe you are somehow a better person than the rest of us. Everyone goes past the limit at least once in a lifetime when focusing on the road and not the speedometer. Pretending not to have done it is ridiculous, unless you've never driven a car.
@Cameron Grant There is no point in you saying that unless it is in the context of a comparison. It is a ridiculous comparison even if you don't understand that you did it.
@Cameron Grant @mike Grutt that's your opinion and you're entitled to it even though I disagree. Ill voice my opinions as I see fit regardless if you or anyone else thinks its "ridiculous " <- OMG dude you're ridiculously insanely creepy!
As a recovering heroin addict thats been clean about 4 years, that statement hit home. I know the feeling of being completely trapped. Not wanting to do the bad things you do. But get so lost and dug yourself so deep that you don't see there being a way out. Feeling like a lost cause after so many failed attempts to get sober... It's sad stuff. I don't with it on even my worst of enemies
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matt snead2020-12-04 15:26:47 (edited 2020-12-04 15:43:01 )
@Głowa Bez Jeźdźca that was true sadness and regret! Trust when I tell you that. I am a recovered heroin addict. I have been sober now going on 6yrs. I was an addict for over 20yrs of my life. So much time, money, people, and love I've wasted. I didnt want to be that way. I hated that way of life. I wanted out. I wanted to be normal. I felt I could never be and that I didnt deserve it. Was I even worth it? I've tried so many times. It's pointless. So yeah, when he said it, I heard and seen all that sadness,regret, and complete hopelessness, that wasnt said. -April
@mydogeatspuke check your state and city laws. You wouldnt believe some. I read that in Louisville, Kentucky it is against the law to walk down the highway in a bathing suit without carrying a bat. Lol not sure what circumstances in life would bring you there but if it does, now you know. So many laws are way out dated.
@matt snead I don't need to check anything lol. I don't break the law. And even if I had worn a bathing suit in Kentucky, that is in no way comparable to murder, which was the original "point" someone was trying to make. That none of us could judge a psychotic killer who took the lives of his young children as they begged him not to, because we'd all broken the law at some point. Instead of seeing how insane that statement is, you chose to try and correct me. That speaks volumes about both their intent and yours, as well as your characters.
@Cameron Grant LMAO! It's not worth your time. You cant change the mind of someone who is so deliriously perfect. They just gotta win this dang argument lol. I said Good Day -A
@M Pulverman okay fine whatever 🙄. Im sure this guy is a saint and never did anything wrong or illegal in his life. Feel better now that I've apologized for insulting your boyfriend?
@M Pulverman im fully aware of that. Which is kind of the whole point of my original comment. Maybe when you grow up you'll be able to understand the things people white instead of looking for reasons to get offended on other people's behalf.
I think smokers can really empathize with him. Im not saying that he is rightfull to commit a crime or does not deserve punishment...but trust me, no one , NO ONE thinks drugs or any addiction is good to be in your life. Also...i felt so much mercy when he kept asking for sweets because when i want to smoke and i cant for some reason i tend to replace it with sweets, it has almost the same brain reaction and he just wanted to calm his nerves with coke. Sugar is a drug too, trust me.
If I had known that this many people would get but hurt about me feeling for another human being and showing empathy, I would have never bothered with it.
@revolver taco Being a criminal simply means you've broken the law and breaking the law does not equate to doing bad stuff. Law is manmade and constantly instrumentalized in the interest of a handful of people.
Being a criminal doesn't make you a bad person. Sometimes you find yourself in situations where you're forced to do things you won't normally do. Not all laws are morally correct and sometimes the morally correct thing is against the law. Home robbery is not morally correct, however, he felt forced into the situation. Heroin is one hell of a drug. It makes a person completely different. He needs a medical detox and metal help. I fully believe he would be an amazing member of society if he was reformed. There is no reformation programs in American jails. I have first hand experience of that
@revolver taco I'm right they may be still criminals but I'd like to point out that not all laws are good and some shouldn't exist at all. Breaking those laws that shouldn't exist makes you a criminal. And that's not even going as far as to point out the other criminal in the room which is the cop trying to manufacture evidence against him by finding out what time he got to his friend's house and what door he came out of when he was arrested so that they can skew the story in that direction. These people aren't investigators they're more like novelists. Their job is to make that story fit whoever they catch. Nobody gives a fuck whether they get the right guy they give a fuck whether or not they get a conviction. A closure on the case means money for the department which means money for the city and money for the state. Long story short it's all about the kickbacks
I have a certain amount of sympathy and empathy for criminal behavior. If you murder an innocent person/child or touch kids it depletes and you’re not human to me. Drugs or violent crimes? Well I have less sympathy/empathy for them but I still consider the human. It just makes me sad. Georgia legalizing drugs isn’t going to stop all this shit that’s for sure .
How is it not known if he went to prison or not? If he did, there will be a record of it happening. No record, he didn't go. It seems pretty easy to work out.
I know this is kinda irrelevant but watching him chug the cokes to get his dopamine receptors kicking from the sugar hits home so hard with my parents and I feel bad for this man
HE ASKED FOR A LAWYER AND THE COP KEEPS TALKING TO HIM. WTF?!
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The Dragon Bloom2022-06-05 18:09:09 (edited 2022-06-05 18:09:27 )
The psychological torment that the police use against people in an interrogation could be considered cruel and usual punishment. The psychological torment that the police use to obtain confessions could also be used to throw out those confessions by having a psychologist come down and show how duress and fear tactics can be used to obtain a confession to just about anything.
The more he sits in that jail cell and starts to go through withdrawal the more he's willing to talk and they know that. BEING DOPE SICK IN JAIL IS ONE OF THE WORST THINGS ONE CAN EXPERIENCE.
“Give me your side of the story. Convince me.“ It’s not Jeff’s job to convince the cops that he’s innocent. The burden of proof is on them to prove that he’s guilty.
Alex Badillo2021-05-30 03:09:36 (edited 2021-05-30 03:10:17 )
@Spikedthenuke I lived it all the time I’ve been arrested and had to wait to see the judge before I was let out or given bell! If I’m innocent until proven guilty why am i in jail Waiting to see the judge?
@Spikedthenuke from reality. A far cry from the ideals we supposedly hold on paper, ain't it? Take a look at the world, sparky. You'll soon see all the mud that stains our streets, and eventually realize that it's not actually mud.
@Koyi Chan It's interrogation techniques meant to expose the guilty. If guilty people think the police have evidence, then they'll be more likely to admit to their guilt. Unfortunately, innocent people can be caught up in the crossfire, leading to a Type I error where an innocent person is convicted
@Alex Badillo It'd be nice if there was more discretion or something of an "in between". In countries like Czech Republic they let you go home for crimes and will take months to process it. While that sounds liberating it's also slightly laughable. There needs to be a revision that molds both concepts into one fair, singular thing.
@Chance Gomm they had no evidence the fact the interviewed him so many times told Jeff all he needed to know. The detectives are good Jeff is even better.
@AMagicalTortoise guilty until proven guilty in the west.
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Ben Wil2021-05-30 18:18:04 (edited 2021-05-30 18:22:41 )
@Alex Badillo that sounds like a holding cell and should be limited to 48h. If the police/state break the law you take them to court. It’s called the trias politica and is a foundational pillar of the constitutional state
It's an interrogation technique, not a legal demand.
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Matthew Prier2021-05-30 18:48:01 (edited 2021-05-30 18:48:59 )
@Spikedthenuke When he asked clearly for a lawyer and we see multiple times for the next HOURS the police attempting to get a confession instead of leaving him alone until he has legal representation. They claim to have solid evidence he is guilty so they do not NEED a confession. Fun fact, a confession is 100% guilty and unassailable by the defense unless EXTREME duress can be proven. 2 Cokes? Yeah, he says anything he's gone for 15 to 20. AND HE KNOWS THIS!
Cops are trained to pressure for a confession, not to find the truth. I would be willing to bet not a single officer is out looking for more evidence or making sure they have the right guy at any time during this.
@Alex Badillo that is wrong. america is one of the few countries that i know where you're innocent until proven guilty whereas many other countries you are truly guilty until proven innocent
@Ben Wil And that right there is the problem most of Americans can’t afford A lawyer!! And if you try to defend yourself you’re guilty automatically because this whole system is rigged to get money out of you or send you to jail!!!
Yeah, but he did JUST say that he had substantial evidence against him, but asked him for his side as well, either to actually get his side, or for Jeff to bury himself.
@Thundercrack von Asswhistle Why is that laughable? That’s actually the definition of innocent until proven guilty!!! There shouldn’t be no in between that you’re innocent what are you guilty!!!!
@Alex Badillo don't you have pro deo lawyers in America? I can agree the prison system is a trick of the states to still have slaves though, America really is the disgrace of the west sometimes
If you are In a interrogating room With handcuffs on you And they’re reading you you’re right the cops already think your guilty!!! All they’re doing is trying to get even more evidence against you!! I just knew that!!!!
@Ben Wil Well here in New Jersey you still got to pay $250 And I don’t know no one who has won any case with a pro bono lawyer! Are they want you to do is to take a plea deal so they won’t have to do no work!!
@Spikedthenuke it's facts, the innocent till proven guilty routea has never been exercised. Otherwise you wouldn't be jailed before proven guilty or innocent
@Alex Badillo What I mean is, my friend I know from there got busted for weed and coke and they legit let him walk home and he had to wait 4 months just to get a simple fine. If that was me I'd sure be laughing lol. I just find both ends of the spectrum a bit much, so it's not really me saying "oh he should go to jail" I just am stuck wondering how do you come up with something new to "break the mold". If it was heroine for instance like this guy, I'd really not want to ruin his life, especially since he shows so much merit and is all-together there. I think that instead of prison they should just actually try help them (nicer help than it usually is and genuine) get off the substance, and if they continue heinous crimes then actually lock them up. I just think there should be a balance between it all and instead of "jail or no jail" it should be a bit more.. thoughtful and tailored to the specifics. You get what I mean?
Basically I'm just stuck here with an empty thought on how you could mesh both ends together into something that isn't so heartless and robotic, but still remains pragmatic. I think the whole jail-scene should be ditched if it's apparent the people actually need their lives saved from themselves. They should take it from there if the suspect is showing the signs the video here underlines instead of trying to bait or gaslight them into imprisonment/incarceration.
Yep but he left without his Butterfinger the cops didn't keep their word so they're branch of designers cops. I tell you one thing I keep my word all the time and I'm prom and I don't BS anybody I say imma do something I do it I say I'm going to buy something buy it. I said take him out for dinner I do it I don't flake out...
Also detoxed for few days so got his tolerance down for extra few days too so you know he was tripping hard on that needle after getting released, not to mention the relief of not going to prison for life lol
Written in feb2022 Jeff got off hard drugs still sold thc products across the Midwest went to jail after a long police chase (he had a mustang it was totaled I know this because cause he took me in like a lil bro ) he got out recently and works legally setting up Walmarts around the Midwest
@maria aquino but even if you are guilty, there's a reason your rights are read to you. Don't say anything without a lawyer unless you want the harshest punishment
To be fair to “Bad Santa,” he was on his break at a shit job and a much more well off woman with no respect for his plight came up and naively expected him to act for her child. His response could have been nicer but I mean, come on.
Junkies always sound honest when they`re lying. Particularly heroin addicts. We all want to believe Jeff, and he`s a great subject for this channel. But, I would not be inclined to give Jeff the benefit of any doubt here. Lot of charisma and presence. I don`t curse him because he`s a junky; that`s just a sickness. But, he has to commit crime repeatedly to pay for the junk. It`s in the nature of the smack head. I like to believe he cleaned up. But then, I tell my kids that santa is real as well.
@Shadow Xxx It's mostly to initiate the psychology of reciprocation. I did something nice for you now you do something nice for me. It builds rapport.
The irony being Jeff knew damn well the "Nice" thing they wanted in return was to put Jeff away for what would probably be the rest of his life so said NOPE.
@Cyn Hicks Its possible for anyone to commit a crime and not remember. The question garners no information whatsoever, and yet they somehow use it as evidence against you. If you say 'yes, it is possible for a human to perform an act and then forget' then that is considered evidence against you...
@Daniel - I think a lot of people make bad choices in early life, often because they are in bad circumstances... and then it's hard to crawl out of the hole you've dug. And fewer people are going to give them a chance/opportunity to get them going in a good/positive direction.
I write this as my god-son is going to be released from prison in about 2 weeks, after being in for 2.5 years. He is so smart, kind, thoughtful, handsome, charming, athletic, musically talented, amazing at picking up foreign languages, etc... has so much potential. But when his parents divorced - sisters went with mom - so he went with his father to take care of him as his father is a gambler and alcoholic - father would spend dole money too quickly and leave his boy hungry and without heat in winter. He was then thrown onto the street at 15/16. His mother wouldn't take him back because she felt he had chosen his father. So to survive, he ended up in a gang... once in it was hard to get out. So that's what I was thinking about "a person with potential if he had decent options".
@The Primordial Logic , i hope for him look like a nice guy. Original OG i can see that. How Man, everybody ho see and now , ... now man just that ! ;))
@Neko Kitty Cat your assuming there was help available and not all "help" actually helps
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Neko Kitty Cat2021-11-02 20:21:11 (edited 2021-11-02 20:21:28 )
@Jackson Cremean yes, but MILLIONS of people came from abusive families or unfavorable backgrounds and only a small percentage of them become criminals, so if help is "bad" in one place it should be good enough in another place if a person truly wants to change circumstances.
@Neko Kitty Cat So you understand the situation of millions of people? Impressive!
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Neko Kitty Cat2021-11-02 22:44:01 (edited 2021-11-02 22:47:14 )
@Jackson Cremean everyone understands who learn history. I don't want argue and push my opinion here, just want to say -we responsible for our own choices
@Greg Brogan Greg gets it. It's a fucking shame too many ppl in this world just don't get it. They think everyone has the options they have/had, or at least something similar.
It's infuriating to hear about how anyone can work their way up outta the ghetto if they just work hard, because this ONE dude they heard of did it. Yes, those few ppl who make it probably worked hard, but they also likely hit the fucking lottery a few times along the way by meeting the right person, getting a lucky opportunity, not getting caught doing something wrong, etc.
I'm white, I'm relatively successful, I've worked hard...but I was 10000000% afforded way more opportunities than most people in the world. It would be very easy for me to tell everyone to just work hard, and if you're not successful then you obviously didn't try hard enough or are just a shitty person. But that's not how life is.
So cut people some fucking slack and get over yourself. I pray that everyone that has no empathy for people struggling in life get taken down a few notches and have to experience what it's like...that's the only way they'll learn.
@Matt Neal - Thanks, Matt. It really is frustrating to hear people say "He made his choices" with no understanding of what options someone may have had available. I am also white and come from quite a privileged background. But I have some friends who I admire deeply who really struggled...
@Matt Neal - By the way... I mentioned my godson/friend getting out of prison in a couple weeks. Well... He has now been out a couple weeks. He is so smart... He had just a bit of money when he went into prison - he researched, bought and traded cryptocurrencies - he did so well that he got out with a nice stash of money. He hit one of those lotteries in life that you mentioned. He really deserves some good luck now - and to be able to choose between nice options! Today he bought himself a used Range Rover - it looks like a beautiful car - I'm so happy for him.
@Greg Brogan good to hear man👍 Hope he keeps it up! Tell him he went from a great investment to a shitty one tho...cars are the worst investments ever! Might look nice, but eventually every car is worth zero.
Good to splurge on yourself every once in a while, sounds like he deserves it!
@Matt Neal - Yah, not an investment, more a practical need where he is. He got a 2013 used car. I think it will hold some value. He was spending too much on public transport - he really needs a car to get around...
@Greg Brogan lol I hear ya man. Was just joking around referencing his solid investment in the crypto. Like we said before, no one knows other ppl's circumstances. That was actually a perfect example.
Might seem like a dumb splurge, but actually will save money and time over public transport.
@Claudiu Dan Maybe you're a little out of touch with the themes and progression's for the average adolescent in growing-up and coming of age in North America (Probably the entire world I dont know) over the last twenty some years. It is not an uncommon experience to feel peer pressure as an early teen or young adult and for which, using alcohol or drugs is a common and usual reason for this. Considering the range of ages for this demographic, purchasing alcohol is impossible so procurring drugs can even be easier for this group. This was almost a guarantee some years ago, but at least the word is now out that parents should keep an eye on their prescription meds. For instance when I was in highschool, it was much easier to find oxycontin than it was to find alcohol.
@breckoz - I have friends who have made bad choices, and even spent time in prison - makes for interesting friends. LOL Great people can make bad choices.
@Neko Kitty Cat so what? He can change now, he's forever doomed because he made a wrong choice? Of course in this guy's case he probably kept right on making those choices, but it doesn't mean he can't change. He just needs something better than the drug makes him feel.
@Mabi Thanks! I appreciate that! He is trying... But it's tough.... He had put a US$150 deposit down on renting an apartment about a week ago - that just takes the property off the market for a week to process his application. Then his financial score came back in the red-zone, so he agreed to pay a year rent + security deposit = 13 months rent in advance = US$17,000. They made him jump through hoops for a week to show that he had paid a US$150 outstanding fine that he hadn't realized existed, and show he has finances available to cover himself for at least a year, etc.. All while the landlord told him he would be happy to rent to him. But then yesterday when my godson was supposed to go pay the US$17,000 in advance, they informed him by email that they rejected his rental application. Felt like a kick in the gut - even paying a year up front, he was still rejected. It's hard on him - he feels like he's never going to catch a break. I can't imagine his situation if he had gotten out of prison with no money like most people... Really not easy... But I'm really proud of him. He is a such good guy and so talented. When he was in prison he submitted a song to an arts contest (witn categories like painting, music, etc) - 1,300 songs entered and he took second/silver. Not sure if you have spotify but this is the song https://open.spotify.com/album/5DaZBcvLCtLpZrtVcwDjii I think it's really good. Thanks again for the good wishes. Kind of you... Wish you all the best too.
@Greg Brogan thanks, man! All I can do is send good thoughts his way, but heck, I'm sure good things will come his way. All the best to you too! (I'll check his song out!)
@Fa Mulan - When your own parents abuse you, how much trust do you think you're going to have in random strangers... That was not an easy choice for him... And again, you make a choice at 16 and it impacts your whole future... He is really trying now to stay clear of any trouble.
@Greg Brogan As someone who had a drug problem earlier in life, this can't be more true. The longer you live like that, the more normal life skills everyone assumes you have atrophy, the more difficult it becomes to reintegrate. In a way, these kind of lifestyles are even worse than long term isolation - it's almost like rehabilitating someone who's lived in the wild like an animal. You need to re-learn basic things that everyone takes for granted, and it's not always easy to find someone who will teach a grown man to organize himself like they would a child. Nor easy for a grown man to accept that kind of help when it's offered.
@Zetsumi - Hey - thanks for your comment. Interesting... it sounds like you were able to break your drug problem. Would you mind telling me more about how you were able to do that? Did you get and accept the help you mentioned? Wish you all the best.
@Jackson Cremean By saying someone "didn't have decent options" you are indeed taking the responsibility for their actions off their shoulders as you are implying they had no other choice but to do wrong. However, this is not true. Even people in the most destitute circumstances can make the right choices, it is just harder to as in those circumstances it's easier to do wrong for short term gain than it is to go the hard route for long term gains. This is basically the same for everyone albeit someone in a middle class or upper class upbringing usually doesn't have to worry about the worst possible outcomes such as homelessness or starving.
@Zach no absolutely not Having a simplistic view of the world that some people are simply evil and others are good is just childish life is more complex than this I'm simply saying to look at things from Jeff's perspective and who knows you may have done worse than what Jeff did if you were in his shoes
@Zach no - Your language is telling. It's interesting you say "it's easier to do wrong for short term gain..." It shows you really don't understand "the most destitute circumstances". In my "godson's" case, it wasn't "short term gain" but rather short term survival. He would be thinking, how am I going to make it the next couple days or to the end of the week... and would worry about how to survive next week, next week. You can't think of right choices when you are really on edge of not surviving the week. He did go hungry at times. And cold with no heat in winter. That desperation really affects you. As a 15/16 year old, these were what he saw as his 2 options when his father threw him out on the street: 1. live on the street trying to find some labourer work but the work wouldn't pay the bills so wouldn't get him off the street. 2. deliver some drugs for a gang and have money enough to eat and have shelter. I'd say that he "didn't have decent options". And when you are desperate trying to survive, your mental state is quite different, you're not thinking about how this will affect my future. You're not thinking about getting to university or a career... It's how am I going to eat today? So until you have faced "the worst possible outcomes such as homelessness or starving" I think you should try to be a lot less judgemental and have a lot more compassion. Even people who make bad choices can try to make good choices later in life. They can be haunted by their past always making it more difficult to make good choices in the future... When you get out of prison and no one will rent an apartment to you because of your past, again you are getting into a desperate situation. My "godson" (recently released from prison) has just rented a far-too-big house for twice what he was hoping to pay because that landlord was the only one willing to rent to him... and they made him pay a year upfront.
@Greg Brogan <3 Thanks! For the most part, yeah. Still have the addiction to the medication that keeps me off of the heroin BUT at least there's that. It looks like Jeff is doing pretty well these days too so that's good to see.
I am spending the holidays with my wife and her family so I'm happy about that.
Merry Christmas to you and hope you are having a good holidays!
@Christopher Anderson - Wow, good. Sounds like a good path. One day at a time. Glad you are with wife and family at the holidays. Please take care. Wish you all the best for the holidays and beyond.
@G B - You are incredibly judgemental. You have no idea what his options were. And even if he made bad decisions, those choices would narrow future options so that it is more and more difficult to change... People can make mistakes and still need a break.
@Greg Brogan . I judge people for making bad decisions. No matter what circumstances we come from it's up to us to make good choices. We are responsible for ourselves and our own destiny.
@Greg Brogan when you make bad choices for your whole life...it's not like he just made some bad choices, it's in ones character. Look at the people who had everything.....and still made "bad choices" like the menendez brothers. You are who you are, no matter your upbringing it situations. The childhood I went through I should be a serial killer, at least that's what they all blame it on. This guy may not rob people, but his shitty life is all on him, I'm sure there were those who tried to help....and look where's he's at....hanging with a crowd that is always targeted by cops.
@Greg Brogan Hey man just wanna say that as someone who can sometimes be judgemental just by labels. This story is a good reflection on the depth of things beyond those labels. I come from an EXTREMELY privledged background, my dad is an actual millionare. But I can still recognize problems with the system I've benefitted so greatly from and had good options from. Just like we can have some fucking EMPATHY for someone who didn't have as great choices. Hope you're both doing great.
@Neko Kitty Cat not everyone has had the se options and choices and life u had and have. It's called reality. I hate people that day "but if everyone else this and what if that". Um yeah.. bad home life , bad relationships to life and others. Etc and morons putting all the blame and exuse on them .
It's not even aggressive or a dig or anything. The overwhelming majority of people have just heard these rights before or are aware of them, you're literally watching a video and hearing the rights yourself, hence you would've heard of them before.
@Moss Rocks that’s if you’re trying to be optimistic about what he said, I personally feel he most likely said that as a jab at how many times he’s been in trouble or something.
As for which one I believe I would have to say neither. Bottom line, don't talk to your enemies, don't give them what they want and they'll let you go. Most people hang themselves falling for that buddy bs when cops hide to give traffic tickets and have the power to put you where you don't want to be. If that sounds like a friend you need to be a loner. They aren't on your side so piss on em.
This guy clearly still has his wits, he says last time they didn't interview him as much, therefore they most not have enough evidence this time. That's a great observation I didn't really think about.
Jeff was clearly just running his mouth because he knew he could get away with it and it would give him more clout with all of his junkie friends and followers. Jeff could have remained silent, but his antagonistic demeanor is likely the reason cops keep putting him behind bars. Sucks to be Jeff really. Probably didn't really think about that one either, did ya?
@Rick the Swift yeah we did and what you say doesn't fit the profile of him at all. You just have bad blood against junkies without reasoning beyond the scope.
@Mishel R. hes one of those people who knows someone who became a junkie or a close family member became one so now hes on a self given mission to hate all of them meanwhile not knowing how it really feels being physically dependent on an illegal substance himself.
Not so swift after all.. And if we're talking swift, like the trucking company, they're a fuckin wreck anyway..
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Rick the Swift2020-08-08 02:33:06 (edited 2020-08-12 04:00:42 )
@Mishel R. Please do tell- what exactly is the profile of Jeff? And How exactly do I have "bad blood against junkies without reasoning beyond scope"? Please enlighten a brother because from what I can see, my words stand true, while yours are confusing and based on?
Only good thing about getting in trouble is you learn about how the police work and what kinda routine they use when they don't have enough evidence on somebody and they need some kind of confession or slip up. It's always better to stay silent and get a lawyer if anybody might be in some kind of trouble.
@Rick the Swift haha stand true against what? A prejudice?. I could explain it as a clinical psychologist but 1) i really don't think you give a shit 2) it implies to have a scientist research and I don't give that freely because we'll it's my job. y You just go there giving explanations like you were a professional, opinions based on prejudice, everything is always more difficult to study than an opinion based on your beliefs, but hey yes you stand true about your non professional opinion.
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Rick the Swift2020-08-09 16:18:20 (edited 2020-08-10 02:36:06 )
@Matt Murphy Actually no, I was growing my own weed before it became legal, and while I was there I was very cordial and only said thank you or no thank you for the most part. One of my old highschool classmates was one of the arresting officers, and he tried to apologize for taking me in, but I told him no apology was necessary for doing his job. After all he hadn't had any fault in the matter that I was aware of.
You see, unlike Jeff, and probably unlike yourself, I am usually able to realize when I'm the one at fault. Was Jeff at fault in this instance? We don't know if he committed or aided in robbery. But, Has Jeff been at fault in the past for all of the other many instances he was arrested, and if so, was his demeanor in those instances cordial or compliant? Is it really his cordiality the reason why you all refer to him as "The Legend"?
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Rick the Swift2020-08-09 16:34:54 (edited 2020-08-12 04:02:28 )
@RJ Clark I'm not sure what video you watched, but the one I watched we all can see Jeff didn't "try" to remain silent at all. Do you think those cops had some kind of magical powers to invoke his vocal cords into action? The reason he was in the room for questioning was because he'd made a deal with them and agreed to go there to be questioned- thinking he'd receive a coke and butterfinger for his compliance.
Perhaps you should scroll up and watch the video above in case you'd accidentally watched something else.
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Rick the Swift2020-08-09 16:59:03 (edited 2020-08-10 03:00:12 )
@Mishel R. If you truly are a professional as you claim to be, I'd highly recommend you making less assumptions in your line of work than you've made with me. You've said my words don't fit his profile, and I'm saying they do, yet all you can offer to back up your claims is that I have "bad blood against junkies", based on?
You see, some of my best friends literally are or have been "junkies", while many others I've known and loved have died from heroin use. Being a good friend, I try to be as real and honest with them as I possibly can and hope it's enough to save their lives. Sugarcoating or denying certain truths would only lead to me feeling as if I hadn't done my best to catch someone who's in the middle of a free fall.
Jeff 's profile is of one who seeks to self-pleasure as much as possible, while sacrificing as little as possible in the short term future. Part of the reason you stand up for him is because you find his behavior stimulating or perhaps even clinically fascinating. But this won't help Jeff. Even if Jeff does meet the right person who isn't afraid to be honest with him, he'll still likely die an early death while hurting many people along the way. Jeff knows this fact better than either you or I, but likely will never change his self-pleasuring/self-preserving course as it simply wouldn't fit his psychological profile that you have studied and promoted with all of your educational background and professional diligence.
EDIT: I'm sorry if my amateur opinion doesn't sit well with you, but just wanted to let you know I'd prefer you spare me the details of your professional qualifications and would rather appreciate something that resembles a logical explanation for your response.
@Rick the Swift Holy shit Rick how about finding a friend or two instead of writing dozens of paragraphs on Youtube of complete and utter fucking insanity?
I'd rather have a beer with Jeff than a guy like you, dude.
Rick the Swift .....I completely agree with your analysis of this clip. Right or wrong, at least your response is well articulated and not overly showy or even slightly rude. I would rather have a coffee w/ you, I think our “stories” would make for a fascinating afternoon. Not that you need or probably care, but I stand with your take on this clip. Best wishes
Rule #1 the only word that comes out of your mouth is "Lawyer" Cop asks: How you doing today? Your Response: "Lawyer" Cop: Why do you need a lawyer? Your Response: "Lawyer"
Anything else... A N Y T H I N G will be construed to hurt you in any way imaginable. You say "the weather is beautiful" They WILL use that against you. They WILL figure out a way. They will also make up shit, and they are legally allowed to lie their asses off to you, and they will lie on the stand, under oath.
Go to your local courthouse and just watch this shit. It is insane. I heard a DA say "I know your client is innocent, but I have a 99% conviction rate. Do you want to take that chance?"
Over 60% of incarnated Americans never went to trial and instead took plea bargains. Meaning instead of Fair Trial their Freedom was decided upon by pre court negotiation between cops and prosecutors and under resourced, over burdened, unmotivated Public Defenders. In USA you are fighting for your Freedom everytime you interact with Law Enforcement. By the design of the US Legal System, there are NO Good Cops.
@Jericko Doggo Absolutely!! The U.S. is only 4% of the world's population but we have MORE prisons than ALL countries COMBINED!!!! Very alarming!! More than half of all prisoners are caged for non violent, victimless crimes!! Let My People Go!!! Not only back to work but out of the filthy jails where they are held after being kidnapped, persecuted relentlessly by our government oftentimes in the opposition of truth to feed the monstrous prison industry that preys on the poor of society
@Teresa Lynn let your people go? We should put everyone in the country into prison so that even the wealthy can see what it is truly like and change will occur. I feel like everyone should be put into prison for a minimum of 25 years and a max of 254 years, depending on age of course.
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Toe Rogaine2020-07-01 00:49:50 (edited 2020-07-01 00:56:03 )
If you’re in that room. Their intention is to lock you up. Facts be damned.
Way too many! It's not problem about "Jeff's awareness ". It's about police trying to push people into admitting to crime whether or not they did it or they not. Police don't care about truth. They just won't one little "+" for solving a crime! They really don't care even if they have completely innocent man and they know that, but when they have junkie as Jeff is they going in total "feeding frenzy" mode. 99% of them assume if someone is heroin addict (or an addict of any kind) he had do many crimes in his "career". Many of that coming from well accepted prejudice that junkies are all at least petty criminals and if they rot in jail it would be good for society. I mean I don't know if Jeff is guilty or not. And I know that many junkies are in did petty criminals, but this is not way system should work. I know that idea coming from good intentions "If someone is quality and there is no enough evidence... try to talk him into confessing to the crime." But that grows in something really weird and sick. When you have police persuading people into to confess to crime they didn't commit and they (police) feel good and get rewarded about it. Don't care much about fucking true! that is a big problem. Ouh, If Jeff is in Serbia there would be no filming and there wild be a lot of beating! So i'm not sure Jeff would stay "anti hero" or lying in jail for crime he maybe did not committed!
LOL right?? Cops; Damn, apparently he was casting some kinda dark magic spell called the "paying attention" spell... we gotta figure out how to get past that... I mean goddammit, those rights are for US to cover OUR asses with by reading them out loud while he stares in a nonspecific direction and drools on himself! He's not supposed to actually listen and USE them! How does he expect us to illegally finger him if he actually USES the rights?? This ain't how it's supposed to go, this all topsy-turvy!
Not technically. Itll be a long response but there is a loophole to it, how he phrased his question and even his silence can still be used as an admission of guilt.
@NaySay Network even if he’s guilty he has the right to a lawyer. so i don’t see what your getting at there’s no “loophole” to him not getting a lawyer. if you mean something different can you please clarify further.
@NaySay Network Uhm no. There’s not a loophole. If a person asks for their lawyer, the interview/ interrogation stops until a lawyer is present. Period, and by law. Guilty or innocent, no one should talk to cops without a lawyer
@NaySay Network nonsense, you have a right to remain silent under your right against self incrimination and exercising that right cannot be construed as an admission of guilt. The constitution is clear and the precedent is strong.
Ex cop and ex jailer here. They can ask for a lawyer, and you have to end it. He did not ask for lawyer at first meeting-- they said he was under arrest and he said, Take me to my cell... Prisoner can ask to meet again, which happened to get a coke. He asked for lawyer in second meeting and it ended. But it may be a day or two to get a free lawyer. But then the prisoner can rescind and ask to speak the cop, which happened only so he could get his coke. But the cop had to try to get him to agree to waive his rights before starting over. Which he tried, but got schooled by Jeff. This went along fairly smoothly. The one time Jeff opened up and was yacking about his friend's dog and going out side and seeing cops, the cop stopped Jeff and tried to read the rights. So...?
@NaySay Network what? If he asks for a lawyer they have to stop and get him one or at least counsel. Silence and phrasing of the question is not admission to guilt
Saying “I SHOULD ask for a lawyer” and “I want a lawyer and will not speak until I meet them” even if it seems dumb are somehow considered two completely different statements and they capitalized on him
@Will Mccauley exactly. Interrogators are super smart and will twist your words to either get a confession, whether it's true or not, or they will gain an advantage over you
@JustKeith You can't "try to get" someone to agree to waive their rights, that's literally coercion and any lawyer worth his weight in salt would get it thrown out without much more effort then the words 'motion for dismissal' coming out of his mouth.
@clifton james No, they will not twist your words. A clear, uncoerced confession with a signature is literally the only thing that holds up in court. Even telling suspects "your cooperation will look good" has gotten confessions straight up thrown out.
The amount of ignorance in these threads is fucking hilarious.
I never defend any of the people in the videos, their crimes are insane. However, it's always funny to see a guy give it straight back to the detectives and their mind games.
He’s the one exception where I feel at least sympathetic idk if he committed armed robbery but he seems more like the friend that gets themselves into trouble vs the school shooter or the woman who murders people cuz crazy. Even if he did commit armed robbery he seems noticeably not malicious in nature by how he acted in the interview. And if he did it it seems like something he would do if he was maybe messed up on drugs and confused or something he did cuz he needed money. I can just see this guy isn’t a mean person by nature at least yeah he is a drug addict but that’s something that’s hard to quit
@I’mActually Not a furry its also refreshing after seeing countless idiots not call for a lawyer yet this guy does the right thing for himself and doesn’t dig a massive hole
@I’mActually Not a furry for me,even if he did it wouldnt matter.Because when you are an addict,you a victim.You need help,and he needed help 11 years ago when he started using till the day that he stopped.Addicts shouldnt just be placed in a cell doing life,they should get the help they deserve.Because no matter what you do as a state to a drug addict,he is already inside his own prison.And its not easy to get out
It seems like the only crime this dude committed was to himself -- drug addiction is pretty awful thing; if he hasn't gotten help yet, he should and I hope he does
@WarlordofBritannia he is clean now. He didnt go to prison for the robbery, however he did go to prison for 2 years for violating probation. He doesnt mention when he decided to get clean tho
I’m not advocating adopting a criminal mindset...but the average person on the street would be doing themselves a huge favor if they spent a little time studying a devoted, lifetime criminals approach to dealing with law enforcement. You see, the average person operates under the delusion the cops are their friends, people who have been sent out to do a service to the public. The average person believes that law enforcement officers do what they do as a service to them. This could not be further from the truth.
Sure, if you’re a cop caller...or have a delusional belief about cops being your friend...you might find yourself in a position to benefit from cooperating with them and/or helping them take control of the situation and it’s outcome. This, however is not proof that their intent, or motivation , is to do this as a service to you.
Police have only one primary motivation...and everything they do in their capacity as law enforcement...is driven by this motivation. The primary motivation of law enforcement is to find any reason they can to justify stripping you of any agency over your own life.
The police do not serve you, they serve the system. They do not give a shit about doing what is in the public’s best interests...they only care about the systems interests.
What system? The system of control which has the authority to completely take over your life and your ability to decide what is best for you and society as a whole.
Law enforcement has become a militarized arm of the government which has been given the mandate to conduct operations on behalf of the government against the public. Police officers are not trained to see themselves as working for you in service of your best interests. They are trained to see everyone as a potential criminal and if they make contact with you, it is as an agent of a system that sees your sovereignty as a threat. If a cop stops you to find out what you are doing or why you are doing it, they have already decided that you could be a criminal and will treat you as such. They do not care about making society a safer place, they care about maintaining the systems control over society.
This means that when a cop is questioning you about your activities, they are looking for proof that their suspicion about you being a criminal is correct. They do not care if you are guilty or inocent...they have already decided that you are doing something which justifies the system taking control of your life. They have already decided that you should not have the freedom to go about your business and that it is their duty to interfere with and stop you from making your own decisions about what is acceptable behavior.
Why is it important to realize this? Because until you realize this you will continue to hold the delusional belief that you can explain yourself to the police and convince them that there is nothing wrong with what you are doing and more over that they have no reason to interfere with your affairs. Until you realize this you will continue co operating with the police, thinking that this is in your best interests when in fact the only thing you are doing is giving them more “evidence” they can work with to justify arresting you and placing your future in the hands of the system.
There is only one course of action when a cop has made contact with you. Keep your mouth shut. Only do what the law requires you to do. This means if you live in a state with laws that give the police the right to compel you to identify yourself, then do so and nothing more. If you live in a state with that laws that force the police to have enough evidence of a crime to detain you before having the ability to demand identification. Then only ask them if you are being detained, and if they say yes, ask for what. Then shut your fucking mouth.
Unfortunately, in the militarized culture of American law enforcement...which sees you as its enemy...many cops view any challenge to their authority as a threat and it has become more and more common for police to justify taking violent action against someone for simply refusing to identify themselves when they are under no obligation to do so. Unfortunately many American law enforcement officers are either ignorant of the laws which govern their interaction with the public, or they operate under the grossly mistaken belief that their own personal suspicion is equivalent to probable cause.
It is because of this that one must be careful to read each interaction with an officer and base their decisions on how to interact with them upon. Their assessment of the officers level of hostility and delusions of authority. It’s better to hand over an id and live than assert your right to refuse I’d and die.
To combat this epidemic of out of control officers who labor under delusions of being all powerful and having unlimited authority over the public, I suggest all of us begin wearing cameras whenever In public which live stream our public activities to a cloud based file storage platform. Only by exposing the police for their violation of the very laws they are supposed to uphold, will we be able to generate enough awareness in the public to force the governments hand and demand that they call off their dogs.
This is the only way we will return the police to their intended role as public servants who act in the public’s interests and strip them of their role as soldiers fighting a war against the public.
My point is this guy clearly isn’t some kind of vicious psycho path even if he committed armed robbery he probably had no plans of actually shooting anyone if they didn’t comply he just isn’t some kind of psycho murderer he’s a unlucky drug addict
In the sense that he accepts his self perpetuated fate with a nihilistic attitude? Or because he’s scornful in the face of his inevitable judgement? Those are almost the same, but I’d like to hear your articulation what justifies this timeline of cause and effect
Logan Harris he’s not detached from reality, especially as the interview progresses. Heroin has a short half-life and when your rock bottom and broke you are no longer ‘getting high’ you’re simply trying to not be sick. But the main point is when you start withdrawl, not only are you removed from any ‘haze’, but actually end up with hyper-active senses; all are intensified, and not in a good way (initially). So, by the end of (and during) his awareness of was actually heightened compared to the Avg person.
Lastly, jeff knows exactly who he is.his horrible sickness that leads to horrible faults is the objective truth and he accepts this. You mentioning words like judgement and nihilism giving off the strong impression that you’re implying the Abrahamic God is somehow a missing key factor. Maybe I’m wrong and I can stand to be corrected..but if I’m right, I’d first like to say it is irrelevant and furthermore, baseless (I acknowledge the creator and not an atheist fwiw) in this situation. And I’m def not implying he’s a good person or that the crimes he commits in fear of terrible sickness are somehow a lesser crime or bad action.
All I’m saying here is he seems to have a lot more philosophical substance than you credit. And I certainly don’t know where you get ‘nihilistic attitude’ from, as opposed to someone seeped so deep in the most physically addictive substance and rather than deny the size of the problem he fully understands and acknowledges the severity of the problem....which coincidentally almost all addicts in the downward spiral fail to do...AND is the 1st and biggest step of treating the sickness;not just identifying a problem but the literal severity.
Rufus St. Hubbins thank you, I find your comment interesting and worth reflecting on, although I’m going to have to research the “heightened senses” symptom myself. Also, when I said Judgement and Nihilism earlier above, I only meant he seemed to appear rather flippant with the officers while he underwent due process (or Judgement)
Logan Harris thanks for the thoughtful response. I am speaking from not only someone who has went through addiction, recovery, but now actually works in the field. Let me elaborate on the heightened senses because empirical data may not emphasize the hyperactive senses to the degree of which it actually entails. Let me explain it in perhaps a more relavant way; when you are steeped in a drug like heroin for yrs/decAdes/etc you are essentially numbing all pain receptors, as well as plethora of other receptors that basically puts you in a bubble of emptiness for the entire duration. Yet the addict preserves because he’s trapped in a security blanket that numbs feeling...And now imagine your supply is cut off from a short half-life drug..it’s like ripping off a bandaid that covers your whole body, where heroin was the bandaid and now within hours you now feel everything all at once. This completely shocks the body and puts you Into a hyperactive paranoid state mentally and physically all the while knowing in your mind it’s only going to get exponentially worse and worse as time goes on. The amount of hyper sensitivity is also directly related to duration of use. Hopefully that makes some sense.
Gawd dang Rufus . . . you just made my whole day!! So glad you decided to chime in, your statement is so well versed, insightful, intelligent & just plain cool. Really glad I scrolled down on this one💕 Wishing you a lovely day & many blessings💋
Rick the Swift2020-08-07 15:04:35 (edited 2020-08-07 15:27:23 )
@rufus st hubbins I read your comments, and although it appears you may have an over-tendency at times to engage in religious debate when one has not been warranted, which can be somewhat deafening to your own cause IMO, I can also respect and appreciate what you've said regarding the effects that withdrawal can produce having been an addict for most of my own life. And while I've probably snorted enough opiates in my day to have put down a train car of mules, I have never considered my self to be "steeped" in the opiate addiction as you have discussed. And while I also agree with much of what you say, having attended many re-hab type classes myself, I would like to point out that in fact many heavy-use addicts understand that their sickness and feeling of pain and despair will eventually pass without further use of substance. I just wanted to challenge what you've said regarding the feelings an addict endures when you said, "it’s like ripping off a bandaid that covers your whole body, where heroin was the bandaid and now within hours you now feel everything all at once. This completely shocks the body and puts you Into a hyperactive paranoid state mentally and physically all the while knowing in your mind it’s only going to get exponentially worse and worse as time goes on." You see, I believe it's this false feeling of "knowing" what is to come that causes many addicts to stray from sobriety and fix their problem with another dose. And while we may 'think' that the feelings of despair, sickness and pain will continue to become exponentially worse as time goes on, what really happens is that our feelings of withdrawal only continue to get worse for 'some' time, and then those feelings will in fact pass as long as the addict can remain clean for a long enough period of time. This in fact is what the addict must "know" if they are to get past their moments of despair without resorting to getting high. We must "know" that we can in fact exponentially get better/feel better as time goes on without use of drugs, and that only for a relatively short amount of time will we feel exponentially worse. Hope that makes some sense.
Rufus St. Hubbins thanks. I was struggling to find the words for what I meant. It’s not a simple thing to describe, and people tend to get a bit touchy about addiction and drugs.
Rufus St. Hubbins two intellectual juggernauts, steeped in pontification, musing over the banal tribulations of an interrogation video of a recalcitrant heroin addict is quite a volley to witness...
@CitizenSnips thanks for the typing lesson don't remember asking but ok. Obviously you got what I ment so I will remain smug. Your welcome for making you feel superior for typing errors after 20 mins of what you had on me. Nice
@CitizenSnips I do and you do as well so...why you buggin? That's all you have. How I word things. Petty really. Anyway you are wasting your time I don't feel your clever so
These are mere tests to make you give up on a fellow man and when you do you will Pay handsomely no ones better than anyone else You reap what u sowe don't sell ur self for a imagined future u will get what u eadned
@Rick the Swift intravenous dope addicts, typically swirled with a somewhat frequent methadone consumption, can experience awful withdrawal symptoms for well over a month. I dont know many heavy users who could/would ride out these withdrawals even though they knew they eventually would subside. Light to moderate users, maybe.
@Del Squacho FPV True that. I have a friends who were a couple and are still alive today, who were both on the verge of death from their intravenous use. They'd be so high, we'd think they were constantly going to choke on their own saliva. Often my buddy would lay in the shower for hours when he was having withdrawal. Their breaking point came when she almost died from o.d., while he was in another state getting the shit kicked out of him and left for dead in a dumpster by some dudes he thought he was buying from but ended up robbing him. When they came to their senses, they realized their 3 year old daughter had been taken away due to their neglect, and it was then they decided to commit to the help they needed for their daughter's sake, and to keep from going to prison. I'm sure it was an all out battle for them, just like climbing Mt. Everest is for the few who are dedicated. I agree too that sadly most heavy users won't likely have the mustard or discipline it takes to endure that kind of pain.
@Rick the Swift yeah man.... it is so fucking brutal. The media has so poorly portrayed dope addiction as some sort of thrill seeking type thing, rather than the mere struggle for moment to moment survival that it truly is. Congrats on your sobriety, brother. We gotta keep vigilant!!!
@GarrisonFall you must either believe in the automatic assumption of guilt or that all humans are infallible. Just because you need a lawyer to competently defend your rights and your innocence doesn't mean you are guilty.
This is hands down the smartest suspect I’ve ever seen on video. He doesn’t fall for any of the police question traps and asked for an attorney early on. Darn good for a heroine addict
While JCS uploads are a welcome blip on the flatline of most day-to-day, most of the time it means we get to find out what is more horrible out in the world to show us. (Yeah; as I think someone described: ironic.)
Yes because when you try to understand rationally the psychologie of a human being you know how to avoid problems and maybe tragedies for you and your entourage. Thank you Jim for your very instructive lessons ! ^^
I had a friend that was very similar in attitude to Jeff. While being very frustrating to be around at times, I don't think I ever would have learned how to grow a spine if it weren't for him. He had a LOT of medical problems and a drinking problem, but he was the best friend someone could ask for. Unfortunately he died 2 years ago.
@Dreamflying153 Wow this dude reminded my friend that passed away 3 years this November. He was a miserable shit but he still had heart deep down n was such a character. He actuallh passed away from fentanyl od 1 day after being clean for a year
@Dreamflying153 Rest in peace to your friend. I too had a male.friend like that not heard from him in 2 years I fear hes passed away in prison or still doing what he does
This is a form of torture. They let they waiting there for 2,5 hours. Is there a legal time limit that the person can stay on the interrigation chmaber? I mean IMm totaly fine when the person is guilty but when the person is not guilty its a real sad thing
So hang on ..you have the right to remain silent...definition of silent..no noise..so why do cops get agitated and annoyed when you remain silent as is your right...
Jeff should be a cop. 1 police officer - let me read your rights... "you may stop talking when...." 2 Jeff - mute as a wall.... 3 police officer - come on man you need to tel me what happened tell me your version 4 Jeff - mute as a wall.....
Heroin doesn't make you stupid.... just out of the normality.
That’s just made me really want a coke and I don’t even like the stuff. Should be illegal to interview someone when they’re withdrawing from heroin or any other drug. And they should sort a doctor as soon as someone mentions meth-done and not play dumb like he’s gonna have a regular doctor or afford healthcare in America…
Oh damn y’all, im worried about jeff, hes a good guy, legend has it he knows the secret coke recipe, an wont tell no gd body, cause thats who jeff is. 🤣
The Justice system is in dire need of reform. Has been for decades. There are behaviors that stem from a health condition that are criminalized by the system. We need to break these tabboos because that's just plain wrong.
or your clever enough to outsmart the cops with youre story good together knowing what to say and play on their humanity works also pretty fine. cause mostly cops have still humanity within them
@Stouthuyzen Bob In an interrogation, the cops aren't your friends, they're trying to crack you. A cop that's too nice to let their suspect off the hook would be off the force. It's nothing personal, it's their job, but that means you gotta do your best to keep quiet.
shojimujo shojimujo Yeah lawyers tell their clients to remain silent because their guilty. So really your here defending guilty people of crimes and I don’t see why
Why are you guys are trying to get people and even children to stay quiet when questioned by the police. You are basically saying its OK to be dishonest and not help the police do their jobs and resolve the case.
@Jacob Criswell you need to go and read about people who have been falsely convicted of crimes they didn't commit because of "evidence" they gave detectives during these interrogations. Reality is not everyone can handle it, some people say what the police want to hear to make it go away. Safest option is to not fall into their traps. Recent events show us police kill innocents. Just stay quite and l let your lawyer work it out.
What are you saying that detectives gaslight people and try to force a confession? If your stupid enough to tell the police you did something you didn't do than go right ahead. If I got interrogated I wouldn't give anything but the truth.
@Jacob Criswell Yer that's exactly what I'm saying. Google "police interrogation false confessions" there's a whole lot of examples out there and a whole lot of scientific papers as to why people confess to crimes they didn't commit. These detectives get it wrong, they believe they have the right man so they use all sorts of psychology tricks. Stay safe people say nothing, especially if you are innocent.
DozeMan You are so incredibly naive. Life isn’t black and white. So while you are coming clean helping the cops close the case, a politically ambiguous prosecutor may throw as much your way as they can to make a name for themselves. No, even if you are guilty, keep your mouth shut and ask for an attorney!
If you are ever placed under arrest, ask if you are under arrest, then either stop talking, or announce that you're going to stop talking... and then stop talking.
Just don't talk. Not to the cops. Not to anyone but your lawyer. Co-operate, but don't talk. Don't resist, but don't talk.
If you don't speak, they can't entrap you or talk you in circles. The more and longer you speak the more likely you are to talk your way into a corner, if you don't speak at all they can't really ascertain much from you and must rely solely on the evidence before them, which sometimes isn't enough.
@Majikalis what?! You better not ever commit a crime! 😆 In the words of my friend Jeff, I'm not talking to you, anything I say can and will be used against me, I want a lawyer and you talking to the prosecutor/parole officer don't mean d!ck, there's no way, I didn't do it!! That should be the ONLY COOPERATION YOU GIVE! Talk to any attorney and the first thing they'll ask is what you told the police followed by the legal advise of don't say anything!
@Majikalis In a perfect world you cooperate but this isn't a perfect world, law can be specially tricky depending on your government but usually cops just wanna put someone in prison and call the case closed, in short...you shouldn't trust anyone blindly even or maybe specially the law, also if they make questions with the intent to incriminate you, you don't have to give an answer at all, by law you don't have to incriminate yourself and your silence CANNOT be used against you as admission of guilt, best thing to do is always stay quiet and get a lawyer, it sounds wrong but that's how it is
Not just the adversity that comes w being an addict. But the misery that caused it in the first place. This world is shit. Especially the law enforcement world. They're a bunch of villains themselves - cops, lawyers, judges.
how many more times did they question him after he asked for a lawyer? they just keep coming back every few hours, reading him his rights again, and giving it another try, pretending as if he never asked for legal council, even though they stated that he had a right to a lawyer each time they insisted on him stating he understands his rights. "yes i understand you are trying to cover all your bases by reading me Miranda, while simultaneously violating my rights guaranteed therein". this happens everyday, guilty or not.
Truth Hurts TV2021-02-01 05:11:44 (edited 2021-02-01 05:12:34 )
Well the cops say "anything you say can and will be used AGAINST you in a court of law" they don't say "anything you say can and will be used in your favor to help you out"
Search on YouTube, never talk to the police. It's 11 million views and like 8 years old. It's the classic God tier video on why you don't. Even your grandma wouldn't talk after understanding it.
@James Mclaughlin Primitive learning if they had anything on you then they wouldn't even bother trying to talk to you period. Never help them cause if you talk then your just f'n yourself in court. Not to mention they will just twist your words and make shit up. They ain't there 4 you!
Well you know, it does say anything you say can AND WILL be used AGIANST YOU. For a heroin addict im surprised he's not acting like a walking dead extra lmao
Jeff is _intelligent_. That's something else. And it's so sad that we're wasting so many useful lives on the childishness of old male politicians. The stupidity of thinking that the threat of prison can be a deter an addict from using heroin when he's willing to buy mystery powder from an unknown source and inject it into his bloodstream, knowing full well that it might kill him … Difficult to understand that level of stupidity.
@Jo-Erlend Schinstad im not sure what your point is, it seems as you have a problem with prohibition as do i which is the cause of all the problems surrounding gruds, Not even the death penalty is a deterrent. The only answer is decriminalisation of all gruds including the worst, alcohol instead of ironically selling it in drive throughs. Firstly a Human being should have the right to do as he pleases with his own body in his own home. So i think we are in agreement there. My problem is with your statement saying that gruds make you stupid, tyhe only one that probably does is the legal one alcohol. Opiates do not decrease your intelligence at all, either do they make you behave badly, Maybe alcohol will, but not opiates thats for sure. Your statement perpetuates the stereotype and prejudice which must stop in order to make progress on this issue. Unfortunately you only hear from those who use and behave badly then even blame their bad behaviour on the grud instead of taking responsibility. There are plenty more decent people who use than pos but you will never know bc they dont have nothing to lose like those able to speak. Its so bad that i have to censor the word gruds or risk having my comment held for review on many channels. As for injecting an unknown chemical, stupidity is the wrong word. During alcohol prohibition, people used to die from bad manufacturing process's. If H was decriminalised and regulated, the supply could be regulated and safer. Another myth is that it is deadly, even if it were, people are allowed to jump out of planes and ride motorcycles. The fact though is that is is very hard to take a fatal dose of H, most od's also have alcohol and benzos involved. I would argue that many are suicide in disguise by people being forced to quit by those around them and the feeling like a failure bc they cannot, even after suffering immensely. Opiate addiction has been with us forever and is here to stay. We cannot make any progress unless we first stop with the knee jerk comments of prejudice and stereotypes that are wrong, this is the biggest problem and causes stigma of some gruds, there are som many worse gruds both over the counter and on prescription, society is even ok with substituting H for a much worse grud in every way except for this stigma. H should be prescribed using the same infrastructure, this is the only solution. A person who has an opiate addiction should not have to take risks with an unregulated supply, having said H is an unmistakeable substance. It may be a surprise for you to learn that there is no long term side effects of using H hygienically. If you want to ban a white powder that causes the most human deaths ever, ban sugar, its the worst and im not even joking. If you want more, i have plenty but ill leave it there unless you ask otherwise ill stfu now. Have a nice day, just please remember that H use and bad behaviour or intelligence have nothing to do with each other at all. Its just bad people use gruds and are able to talk about it, users are not bad people and must stay in the closet lest lose everything causing the cycle to continue. I want to break this cycle and maybe lay the framework for change. See Portugal who have half implemented the solution. , Oregon is on the way. Not in my life time but eventually there will be change. Look how we use to treat women, and homosexuals. Everyone is human despite their like dislikes, habits, hobbies and preferences does not make them less human, especially if their actions do not harm others. Today people get upset at second hand smoke from s cigarette in the out doors but happily serve someone a glass or 2 of wine with their dinner at a restaurant. Alcohol is in the same class as the others but is treated differently. I think the only reason that alcohol is treated this way is bc how easy it is to manufacture from everyday ingredients at home everywhere, its even made in prison using scrap food tray items. Ok im done die now, or am i? should i still stfu?
@Johnny Star: As for whether or not it is a persons own choice, that is debatable. If you could get a private insurance company to assume the financial risks associated with your addiction, then I might entertain that notion. But I live in a country where that would never happen and where we would never let you be homeless or without medical care or otherwise destitute. One of the reasons for that, is that destitute people have an enormous risk of falling into crime and then we would have to lock you up. We can't first watch as you fall into destitution and hopelessness on your way into crime only to then punish you. We have to step in and give you a chance to recover long before that happens, both for your good and the good of the people. The alternative is completely immoral. But it does cost money and if we're the ones who's paying, then we get a say.
The assertion that heroin is not addictive, that there are no long-term effects and that it cannot cause death, is plain stupid. I am not going to discuss that.
@M Wallace: You seem very confused. I never said anything remotely similar to what you think I said and your confusion really doesn't affect my education.
@Cassi Crawford: Why do you say that? Do you seriously believe that the threat of a fine or jail will prevent an addict from using drugs? How hard do you think we should we punish addicts in order to solve their problems? In the Phillipines, the president wants to drop addicts from helicopters and that doesn't cure addiction. How much is enough?
@Cassi Crawford: Well, I wrote about the stupidity of politicians who thinks punishment works as a deterrent to drug use and you told me I don't understand addiction. I would assume that you disagree with me.
@Jo-Erlend Schinstad oops! I actually am guilty of poor reading comprehension. I thought you were calling Jeff stupid for knowingly injecting unknown drugs! I was so tired and skipped over anything else. I agree completely with your comment lol
@Cassi Crawford: Hehe, that's ok. You're not alone. Several others seem to have made the same mistake. In 1902, Norway decriminalized suicide. You know what that means; at some point, a policitian sat down and thought it was a good idea to criminalize suicide. Like «I want to kill myself, but I can't because I'm too afraid to go to prison». That is the type of stupidity that really boggles my mind.
@Jo-Erlend Schinstad and you are someone who has noooo clue as to what your talking about the majority of addicts are over intelligent and deeply intellectuals actually. Stop judging and think properly ans clearly before you speak. If you don’t have a clue be quiet
@Louisette LEveille: You didn't understand what I wrote. I wrote that politicians are stupid for believing that punishment and humiliation solves addiction.
@Johnny Star having those things legal is questionable. Right now there are many jailed for such things and along with that comes incarceration problems people complain about such as conditions, space, and treatment. What makes you think that all those things will disappear? If anything it'll all go higher and more people will self destruct. Like it or not, people who think they can control themselves with those gruds most likely end up being addicts. You mentioned how it's self responsibility when it comes to that and people should do what they want, so why should there be help/treatment for those who become addicts if it's self responsibility? If that's what they want to do?(I'm not oppose helping, the opposite actually just saying to try to prove a point I suppose) Making gruds like those legal would lower the self responsibility you claim that should arise from that.
@Emily Rose God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!) 🥰🤍
@Zunaid Ashraf God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!) 🥰🤍
@Jo-Erlend Schinstad it gets around users quickly who has the best stuff. Normally entrenched users don't overdose... Its when strength of the gear changes that csuses the problem.
@Ben Cheevers: «Street smarts» is just a specific form of wisdom and a drug addict can be very wise, because they experience so many things in life that the rest of us don't. He's clearly quite intelligent, but that doesn't make him smart, because the difference between being intelligent and being smart, is that the smart makes the right choices. You can be as intelligent as humanly possible and still be an addict, but there's no such thing as a smart addict, because the only smart choice when it comes to drug addiction, is to stop being an addict. I think it's very important to understand the difference between intelligence, wisdom and smarts. They are three entirely different things.
@nos: I spammed the most liked comments with it in this comment section. I don't remember the address right now. But yes, he was doing well at the time and has a channel with some music he's made and trying to get straight. If you care as much as I do, then you'll just look for it and find my link.
@nos: He's not an entertainer. We enjoy one of the worst days of his life. Don't you agree it's only fair that we give a little back to him if we like him and wish him well?
@Johnny Star is pretty accurate. The legislation itself is the cause for most of the harm, if not directly, then indirectly (black markets attract unethical businessmen, who sell bad products, while regulated, legal markets have standards). I have a strong dislike for opiates, my bestfriend growing up OD'd 10 years ago... however, I understand that it was the demand of being drug-free that killed him, indirectly. He didn't want to live drugfree. So when pushed into rehab, they just removed his tolerance to it. Gradually improving his quality of life, while teaching him how to gradually spend more and more time off drugs, doing smaller doses, even swapping drug into something else comfortable, but not potentially deadly could have saved him. Legislation doesn't allow this route of action.
@nos: Well, the only thing I knew how to help him, was to write a bot to spread the word to people who might be willing to help. You throw some bread on the water, you know, you never know what the consequences will be, but it can't be wrong.
That's just smart smart. He has enough foresight to know that nothing he says to the police can possibly help him (literally), and his future hangs in the balance.
@Hazding thanks for sharing that, ive known many dead people that felt like failures due to the opinions of their loved ones and bc they couldn't stop, I dont know even 1 person who has used opiates for a decade or more and successfully quit, Actually i lie, i know many but they are no longer alive. The majority of opiate users must keep it to themselves otherwise they will lose everything , there is absolutely no help for the majority who are good people. How can they admit to anyone and go to rehab and keep their career and reputation intact, they even risk losing their children. There is a whole group of users that nobody even knows of. Lastly ill try to give you a perspective of what it feels like to be a long term user trying to kick this habit. Imagine being a 30 year old man and having regular sex since being an adult which is most of us. Now imagine being told by everyone that you are an awful person for doing that and enjoying an orgasm and in order to be part of our society you cannot ever orgasm again. You try your hardest and after a few months, you do it, you feel so ashamed. There is always going to be a hole missing in this persons life which is very hard to fill with anything else, many would rather not exist at all, Say what you like, im just trying to help people understand the mindset of an opiate addict. It is of course different for example the whole withdrawal thing but i hope i can provide some sort of facsimile for people to understand. I also want to people to know that being a user does not lower your intelligence, it may increase your self confidence but it also does not turn you into an immoral criminal, you can not use long term successfully by behaving badly, Most users work hard for their grud which goes on to fund the high up criminal enterprises that we can all say are awful. For some reason humans want a section of society to hate, there is nobody left but grud users. They are just the same as everyone else, some good, some bad, some poor some rich but whenever they come out the closet, they ruin their lives unless they have ruined it themselves allready. I really think that most overdose deaths when relapsing are suicides in disguise bc they should know their tolerance is low and it also takes a mega big dose to be fatal, usually over doses are when mixed with other things such as alcohol or benzo's, I do know that most over dose fatalities are by people struggling with quitting and relapsing so i offer this advice to all, its better to continue being a user than dead. Unfortunately most will say that its better to be dead than be a user. I bet that would be everyone's opinion here. No a users life is just as valuable as anyone else, it is unfair we must risk our lives daily. I given my first opiate at just 4 years old due to horrific burns and skin grafts. when i became 18, there was a H epidemic in my area and after a stressful period at 18yo i tried it. Along with the normal euphoric feelings everyone gets, i also had a nostalgic feeling that took me back to my childhood. a bit like eating grandmas cookies as an adult for the first time since you were a child. I have used H since i was 18, i am now 43, i am no criminal, i am a decent person, and you would never know unless i told you which i just did. Ive been through all of this but if you cannot accept me for who i am i dont want to know you. I do not need to be who you want me to be. Go away from my life if you dont like me. I dont tell you what you can do in your home. Its not fair that i cannot acquire my stuff safely through legal channels, there is legal methadone but that is very bad for you, so much more addictive and also weakens bones. But i cannot afford to buy the amount of H i need to be ok so i must use methadone 3 times a week to not feel sick. You are supposed to have it every day but i go as long as i can without it. I recently badly broke my leg as it is weaker now due to 5 years of methadone. Nobody has a problem with me destroying my body with this legal opiate, i wish i could just get H on a prescription. I will be a user for the rest of my life, i accept that and am ok with it. I have tried quitting before when i was saving for my house but i was so depressed. I had access to all of life's pleasures at my fingertips but nothing makes me feel ok with life. If for some reason H disappeared for a year, i would check out like so many people do. Like i said, i do not know even one person that is still alive after a decade of use and quit, just many dead people who kept trying, the only way they succeeded in quitting was to die. Do i deserve to die, i know some here would say yes. but why. Just a few decades ago most of you would say that a homosexual deserves to die if he cant be normal. Anyway, there is my rant, i hope someone gets a different perspective, just please stop the prejudice stereotypes and discrimination against people you dont know. The guy in the video here represents the minority. All gruds need to be decriminalised and regulated including alcohol that is sold in drive throughs and kills millions on our roads, Alcohol should be sold discreetly in rations and should only be consumed in your home, Pubs should not exist just like opium dens shouldn't. While im at it, psychotropics should be available in treatment centres to help people aswell. There is a way to do it. Not just sell everything in a corner store but set up infrastructure and add it to the cost of said grud. It will still be cheaper and the money wouldnt be funding exotic animal and human trafficing and other awful things these high up ugly people like to do. Anyway, you do you, BeHave Be good, Be happy, Be alive, You deserve to live. All of you, no matter your hobby or sexuality or gender or whatever it is, as long as you dont harm others you are a good person, but you allready know this. I hope you read this
@Johnny Star Fentanyl isn't strong because it's extracted from transdermal patches, it's used for transdernal patches because it's so strong. It's a full mu receptor agonist, and had a very high binding affinity with the receptors. That allows it to be incredibly effective in sub milligram doses, hence, transdernal patches are an option.
It seems they don't mean shit though. He stated multiple times that he wasn't talking and that he wanted a lawyer present, and they spent hours trying to question him without calling a lawyer.
A good lawyer could certainly use this video in order to discredit all evidence gathered from this interview, since his multiples requests for a lawyer were continually ignored by the officers. Seriously, that is so absurd
@Andrew no, it was an assumption given the whole situation... they obviously left him cooking for hours to get anything out of him so it's not a wild assumption in my opinion
@Andrew Yes. Their intent is plain because of the disrespect they show his rights. "We've got the right guy, even if we don't." It's borne out in the rate of wrongful conviction. Far too often, police just want a resolution that makes them look efficient. There is no other justification for hearing a suspect say, "I want an attorney" and then continuing to interrogate him. Even trying to make him feel stupid for making a request they just outlined as a constitutional right. When a cop tries to talk people out of the rights they just outlined, they're trying to play prosecutor, not law enforcer. That's not all police, obviously. But the moment you hear, "I want a lawyer present" followed by, "Oh come on, that's not necessary," their intent is crystal clear.
@Ivens Pinheiro Ivens he doesn't want to talk, that doesn't mean they can't talk to him. they will try to make him talk. because you said you wouldn't talk, doesn't mean you won't talk.
@Brohvakiin Dova They didntl.... notice how at the "5 hours later" section of the video, almost at the end, Jeff states that "I only came here bc of the coke", he probably had already talked to the lawyer, but came back to questioning due to the offer he was made.
He doesn't want to talk to you because he's convinced you are going to railroad him on the charges. He already confessed to heroin charges so he's trying to avoid being sent up the river. His involvement is questionable.
@CaptainSkelebones pretty sure they got the idea from the Stephen McDaniel video uploaded right before this one. One of the most liked comments made this same joke long before this one.
Alex Galate this is true but speaking as someone who’s been there, when you start withdrawing things like caffeine and sugar will give you a quick boost but once you’re in deep the only thing you can think of is opiates and you’ll have all day and night to do it because you won’t sleep a wink until you get more. It’s truly awful. It’s clear that Jeff is hurting at this point but he’s not too far in to withdrawal or I doubt he’d be doing as well as he appears.
Histify true that I personally don’t define what is and is not funny but I can objectively and comfortably state that your “joke” was not funny in anyway. So it shouldn’t come as such a shock to you that I didn’t understand you thought you were making a joke.
Miranda Brooks agreed, he did he released in the end but I hope that the story about him getting clean and straightening himself up is true. I doubt he works in marketing for Coca Cola but maybe he works at a bottling facility or delivers for them. It’s clear that his crimes were a result of his opiate addiction, having dealt with that myself I know it’ll make you do things you never would’ve clean. It changes you if you stay with it too long also. I would feel pretty comfortable saying that if Jeff isn’t in prison or didn’t get help he is probably dead, heroin addicts have a bad habit of overdosing especially if they’ve been clean and relapse or use after being locked up for a few months. They go back to using the same amount they did before not realizing their tolerance has dropped and it kills them. It happens a lot and to really sad.
@VTwin Builder Arguably my joke about butterfingers was more funny, and appropriate than your "black tar heroin" comment, but yeah. I was inappropriate and unfunny in the situation. Makes sense.
Histify well we are getting close to the truth, Jeff is a heroin addict after all so I’ll stand behind my statement (not a joke, meaning not meant to be funny) that upon his release he undoubtedly was more interested in finding more heroin than he is in getting a candy bar. Also if you knew much about the drug trade, especially in the area he is from you’d know that black tar is the predominant form of heroin available there. So my comment was right on. You should worry more about the things you yourself are writing as this thread has clearly demonstrated.
@Stevey TeeVee from the coke cans put into the garbage. Law states if you dispose of something it becomes municipal property and cops can then search it.
Yes, its always smarter to bring in the desired item and place it on the desk away from the con, they can see it but cant have it yet.... These guys gave him the items first and he drank them as quick as possible. You keep the item near you (against the wall on his right elbow) and if the person gives you nothing you drink it yourself...in front of them while the guards are summoned. Works much better that way.
Actually, I’m pretty sure he was asking for so much coke because of his heroin addiction. I have family members addicted to heroin, and when they don’t have it, they crave the fuck out of sugar and it helps them not feel so bad, especially chocolate.
@JohnZackarias he actually got clean if that makes you feel any better. And I don’t talk to those family members anymore, but my partner got clean after he ODed so that’s good :)
I used to be an addict myself, although, my addiction was alcohol(22 years sober). I would mention the weed but that was really just a modifier. I used to be really nice, laid back, accepting of the human natured flaws. Now that I am sober I am a straight up ass; hole, I want nothing but the truth, nothing but facts. And I do not tolerate any foolishness. I reformed, mostly because I was forced to, I was forced into living the life I currently lead, and I hate it. And as a result, I hold all of you to the same standards you held me to. Your society judged me and my flaws. Now I judge YOU and all of YOUR flaws. And I have found you lacking. Jeff, if you ever see this(not likely); if nobody else is on your side, I am on your side.
Jeff is smart, smarter than you are, for sure. I definitely know why he gets high. When this guy gets sober he sees how stupid you are and it makes him angry, and the only thing that drowns that anger out is the drugs. Your idiocy drove this man to drugs.
To anyone who is finding this video now, Jeff actually did 2 years for parole violation after this incident. However, today he makes music and owns his own place thanks to the support that's come from this video. Wham bam, thank you JCS for the coke and making a man's life better.
@erizo I really hope this is true. Beating this level of addiction after so many years of being hooked and dependent just to function in daily life is almost impossible.
@FAHRI ANGKASA This is the internet. Don't believe any information without a link to a credible course. Every band has a website nowadays. Believe me, where Jeff is he has no internet.
@WallSt Bets Pinned comment in the video leads you to his channel. From there, scroll down till you find a video named 'Facts' itll explain everything there
LOL I nearly pissed myself when they set up the end of a rumor that he works for Coca-Cola now LOL where do people come up with this shit. That sucks though I can only imagine being cuffed up being stuck in there and going through heroin withdrawals. Like oh my God.
Martin Ljubic2022-02-03 05:01:14 (edited 2022-02-03 05:07:42 )
Just a criminal here. Watching only for his particular psycho babble. Half way through: a half assed life because of a half assed effort. Whether guilty of this particular crime: unknown. I then watched all the way to the end. Outcome: unknown. I'll have that coke now!!
(The edit) I then read other comments: Jeff the criminal, had charges dropped this time; two weeks later.
@Christina Ellis seriously people will find anything to complain about. As an autistic person I don't get offended when people have to do stuff their body makes them do. Like having to blow your nose when its runny or burp when you have gas. I mean they're just normal human functions and honestly it sounds rude to me to expect someone to have to remove themselves from their current situation just to go blow their nose when they need to.
@James Jones ich hab ja nicht gesagt, dass ich einen Kommentar abgebe in der Situation lol soll jeder machen was er will, trotzdem habe ich einen persönlichen Standard haha und gewalt wegen eines kommentars einzusetzen finde ich eher charakterschwach aber naja
I have a hard time understanding how and why things so simple like blowing your nose became "rude"? Is it rude to sneeze? Is it rude to cough? As long as you do it Cleanly I don't see a problem. Same with blowing your nose. As long as it in a tissue and not your fingers.
This is sooooooo wrong by the police. What part of “I want a lawyer,” do the police not understand? Never ever speak to the police guilty or especially innocent.
He's thinking, If he wants a lawyer, he's done something and I'm gonna get a confession. You do have the right, but they don't have to leave you alone.
@erika being able to not move your mouth is hardly a right, I'd say the spirit of the law is that if you don't want cops hassling you for evidence you should be able to not be hassled.
It depends on where you are. In many places you don't have to answer but the officers can ask you as many questions as they like, even after asking for an attorney
@Love or Leave! exactly, people let these pieces of shit they pay wrong them too often.
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Bruce Andrade2021-04-14 11:36:06 (edited 2021-04-14 11:37:34 )
I've been preaching on that exact issue! If you're actually innocent, you REALLY need to keep your rights because they'll do anything they can just to get a conviction. I was a VERY sheltered child and was emphatically taught to trust the Police. TLDR: Fool me once but never again. I flippin' feel for this guy SO hard. I gotta believe that he's living his best life. Whatever that might be.. ;-)
The cops aren't the ones that possibly broke the law. They are the ones who's job it is to find the truth. You want to allow the criminals to lie and not let cops use proven tactics to attempt to get evidence needed to convict? You're a smart one. Man with gun and bags of money in hand : I didn't rob that bank i'm walking out of. Cops: Well, shit.
Especially when the cop asks you "know why I pulled ya over" or "you have any idea what I got you here for?" More than likely, if you say anything before the cop does, they'll take it as a confession and have you accuse your self. The right to remain silent is a right even before handcuffs.
@Kelsey Guard the foundation and science of interrogation is inherently one sided. Look at more of these videos they literally try to fatigue you in hopes that your mental capacity lowers and you can't fight against them/give lower iq counterarguments. They'll do this if you are innocent too since they get commission based on how many people they arrest. their entire system is designed to FISH for "criminals". With extra incentive to catch people instead of finding a truth like you've uttered . If anything everything that cops do has some sort of dirtiness to it. This isn't about "getting evidence" like your little strawman argument makes it look like. It's about mental manipulation and exploiting the lack of attorney whenever they feel like it.
@Kelsey Guard a cops job isn't to find the truth it's to get a conviction, When you're being interrogated you hold almost no power compared to the interrogators, the cops can choose what parts of that interrogation they want to use to convict. so giving the cops any information whether true or false and even if you're innocent, is to your disadvantage.
@Kelsey Guard that’s not what they said. they just described how it works. it’s true, you can’t lie, but they can. and anything you say will be used against you. you should never speak to a cop, whether you’re guilty or innocent, it’ll only hurt you.
@Kelsey Guard Why should anyone care about people robbing banks? The money of the people is insured, the money that's being robbed is the banks - the same people fucking the world over.
can you blame most of the addicts for being and addict? having a job without benefits no sick days no payed vacation what is making you mentaly and physicly sick, you get into pain, the doctor prescribing you opium based painkillers to keep you on your feet in order to not lose your job and there is your addiction. and heroin is cheaper than oxicodon. so amarica has not a drug or crime issue, it is systematic, you treat your own people without dignity, a minimum guaranted standart of living and decency.
@Samael78 im from germany and i can tell you, if we get sick here and are not able to work, we get some payed rest time and meds that dont make addicted. stuff like opium you usually get in the last stages of pain. also we all in all get more money at work, i didnt got shot in school, i can go on the streets without fear, our justice system dont depends on who has the best speech. i dont know man. the more i talk the more i am happy to not live in america. poor people
@Samael78 Depends on the person. I have close family that have been addicts, one became an addict because he was an angry criminal asshole who would do anything to briefly take away that anger and make himself feel good no matter the consequences. Unfortunately in time it just made the anger worse, and sure, most people don't go into it thinking they're going to be addicted, but not all of them are just nice guys with a legitimate reason either. Some of them are real sociopaths and jerks who only care about making themselves "feel good" at the expense of everybody else in their lives around them. Some are just people who had some serious medical issues and needed pain killers. Others are people trying to forget the pain of some horrible life experiences. There are all types, but not all of them are innocent and good.
So yeah, in fact I can blame some addicts for being addicts, especially when they are the kind that never want to begin to see if they can come down and don't care about all the lives they constantly ruin and screw up around them. I know that kind too well. But I also know some enablers can be at least as bad and sometimes a worse part of the problem than the addicts themselves.
We don't know this guy is some good guy. You want to give him an excuse for holding up a store because he didn't have drug money? He could get on a program to get off this stuff but doesn't want to. Let's not presume to know why, either way. He shouldn't be commiting armed robbery and he doesn't have an excuse for that tho.
Saying "thanks for the Coke" is no big thing showing he's nice. You live with socipaths long enough, you see they can be quite polite when the mood takes them.
Most people are addicted to something. The chemical known as "heroin" isn't any more harmful to the body than caffeine in appropriate doses. It's the "war on drugs" mentality and the stigma around it that causes most of the damage. That's what's a crying shame
@Great Cold Emptiness society is made from everyone, including the junkies and criminals, removing them is a way to rid of crime, but that doesn't stop them from keep coming up. Maybe when people start looking in the problem instead of blaming it on all of them and "just lock em up" and see why society continues to let these people become like that, only by then can they find the solution for the root of the problems.
I grew up in a normal family with two great parents who are very good to me.. but I became addicted to pain pills due to heavy kidney stones and it wasn't like I went out there and did it and I think that's in most cases where it starts with pain medicine then sometimes people take it to heroin or crystal meth.. with my withdrawals and my addiction to pain medicine. Actually help so much so I want to see what would happen if I took pain medicine again and I did one day and it absolutely did not do anything for me and I was happy about it and I'll probably be on this Suboxones for a long time but I can understand a little what Jeff went through I was just lucky that it didn't really damaged me as bad as others but it does not mean he's a bad person when people Rob and steal and do robberies is because of drugs I stolen a lot of stuff worth thousands of dollars and barely got caught it was all because I just wanted extra money and I rely on that medicine to function
@Great Cold Emptiness OK I don't use drugs but even I can see the benefit of having legal heroin on prescription because it stops addicts committing crimes, it takes pressure off the health care system from sickness resulting from bad cutting agents in the drugs. Switzerland shows how it should be they have less than 3% of the original people on heroin from their trial program.... This means it's more successful in treating addicts because it helps them get stable find work and housing and eventually they come off it or they are stable and happy. No needles out on the street. I understand your comment but it comes from a place of lack of education and almost 60 years of government propoganda and lies.
World war 2 vets in England lived full lives on prescription heroin and died in their 80s and 90s even though they used heroin since their 20s. America stop this war. It needs to be targeted there doesn't need to be illegal drugs turned legal and be over the counter but they need to be available for addicts. Though it seems the government needs the war on drug money it's like being able to write off billions every year and not having to show any progress. All these people who have died or been hurt and injured because of illegal drugs and leaving it in the hands of ruthless cartels who don't care who they hurt or what's in it.
A lot of people have jobs because of the war on drugs as well. Part of the reason it is still around is because the prison systems have been built around it and the law enforcement jobs L.E.A.P law enforcement against prohibition is full of retired police officers saying how wrong the war is but anyone still getting a paycheuqe still sings the government's tune.
@Bella Bear they actually do have “legal heroin on prescription” - it’s called Suboxone. Suboxone is a pretty cool innovation that’s extremely helpful to recovering addicts, it’s a legal medication that contains a combination of opiates and opiate blockers - so you take it, the opiate content prevents your body from going into physical withdrawal, and the opiate blockers do two things - they make you NOT get high at all, and when you have that in your system and say you go buy heroin or pain pills and you attempt to take it - it won’t work. You won’t get high, because you have an opiate blocker in your system. If you attempt to take a lot of pain pills or heroin on top of the suboxone, it can actually CAUSE sickness, that has the potential to be so extreme, it’ll feel like the worst withdrawal symptoms ever. So it actually does a great job getting people off of heroin/opiate abuse safely so they can lead normal lives in a stable condition.
@Great Cold Emptiness I have spotted the Californian. That state has pandered to the addicts and for what? Feces and used needles all over the streets like confetti. I feel ya.
A lot of us addicts (I suffer from alcoholism) are good people at heart. Its the fucking shit we put into our system that fucks us up. I wanna get my shit together so I can enjoy my life again, but its fucking hard. Relapse is such a bitch.
Not all junkies are bad people...I'm 6yrs clean myself and have been where Jeff is sitting in an interrogation for something I didn't do. I was questioned for about 8hrs but it was much easier knowing they were full of sh*it about the evidence because I knew I didn't do it! Go Jeff!!
@Chloe Kit I was pulled over because they claimed my tags were improperly attached and had a coworker in the vehicle with me, I was giving a ride home to. The coworker had a drug history on record so they asked to search my vehicle and sure enough, he had stashed a handful of "caps" of heroin under my carseat...the police interrogated me for 8 hours asking me where all I had taken the guy, they were trying to get me to confess where the "big" dope boy was...the dealer. My passenger never claimed the drugs so we were both charged with possession...I had to hire a lawyer and prove I was just giving him a ride but honestly, the police almost talked me into a fake confession because I wanted to leave after 8hrs of it. I never mentioned I wanted a lawyer because I had nothing to hide...but I wish I would have!!
@Jesus IS Lord I wouldn't agree with that. Humans are not 100% bad and 100% good (I wouldn't see Jesus being 100% good but I don't want to touch on that topic that much) . Most have flaws that can be managable to conform in society, I would see that as being good in my Book
@Bruh...... our view of "good" has isn't what matters. God is Holy and won't allow any sin in his presence and mankind chooses sin over God over and over from Adam to present day.
This is why the gospel is good news instead of just a history lesson because the penalty of sin is so severe it requires blood as payment, OT laws were animal blood as temporary payment and the NT was God Himself pays it permanently for anyone willingly accepting it.
For anyone that believes "God has no right to judge me" I like to use this as an example. The punishment is directly related to the amount of authority you break the against. If I lie to my child, I'm the authority, and there is no direct punishment, maybe my child stops trusting me etc but that's not a punishment in the same sense. If I lie to my boss at work I can be fired as a result of my lie. If I lie to a police officer I can be arrested for filing a false report or obstruction of justice etc and can be criminally charged. If I lie on the witness stand I can be charged with perjury. When a perfect omnipotent being sets the rules and we break them, without seeking forgiveness, then the penalty is eternal separation from Him.
This guy. A hero. 200IQ. I don't know if anybody can appreciate how difficult it is to stay silent in a situation like that and this guy is additionally feeling withdrawal so naturally would want this to end as quickly as possible.
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Leonard Milcin2020-10-26 02:37:56 (edited 2020-10-26 02:38:49 )
@Sabrina Tschäß I don't know if the guy is guilty or not. I just admire how a junkie on withdrawal can show more composure than almost everybody else faced with this situation.
Unless, of course, you’re a career-criminal which this guy clearly is. I’m not above feeling empathy for somebody whose life was ruined by drugs, but there are people far more deserving of that empathy than this man. If you’ve ever had your house burgled or better yet, your soul CRUSHED by a loved one who is addicted to drugs, you might see things from a different perspective. Not to say that these cops aren’t being complete douche bags, though. I can agree with that much at least.
@Sabrina Tschäß Empathy isn't a finite quantity, having empathy for him does not reduce the available empathy for others. I have had my house burgled, twice: that does not make Jeff a burglar or guilty of this crime. It seems at least as likely that Jeff was picked up on 'arrest the usual suspects and see if we can find someone to pin it on' and not due to actual evidence pointing to Jeff specifically. And, it is possible to have empathy for both the victim of a crime and the soul whose life by horrible choices or bad circumstances has led them being criminals at the same time.
Further and why I bothered to reply: I have a couple pretty close relatives addicted to drugs, including a very close age mate cousin that lived with us when we were both children due to his mom's addiction to alcohol and abusive men who died of an overdoes in a 'crack house' after a 9 year struggle to meth that stole everything from him; if anything that gives me more empathy for Jeff not less. IF you're 'not above feeling empathy for somebody whose life was ruined by drugs' then how is Jeff less deserving of empathy than others? Your disclaimer is completely voided by the rest of your statement.
@Sabrina Tschäß even as a career criminal, they make holding cells cold and uncomfortable. You can only sit so long before you just wana get on with it.
colpul2 Empathy that is genuine hurts. That’s why it’s called empathy. You are vicariously experiencing the other person’s pain. it takes up energy and drains you spiritually and emotionally. You can feel bad for someone but then at the same time decide not to expend too much of your emotional energy on that person by thinking about them. We all do it and some of us have learned, for our own well-being (and the well-being of others we love) not to dwell too much on the problems of people who aren’t going to try to better their own situation. I understand that drug addiction is very real do not get me wrong on that, but there is a point after which your empathy no longer does any good. Being someone who has lived with the same things that you have, I have learned to harden myself to it as a natural defense and there is nothing wrong with that.
Dwelling on somebody else’s demons will suck the life out of you
It’s so sad how police in this country just want a confession and don’t care if it’s a false confession or a true confession. This is why everyone needs to know their rights. Cops will try to minimize the charge and make deals like “we’ll put a good word in with your parole officer”, so someone will falsely confess to a crime and it’s sick. Also, Jeff as of two weeks ago got this charge dismissed!
Although I agree by looking from your perceptive but If I talk from my POV , I am amazed how polite is police there. Indian police would have beat the shitt out him , he would have confessed world bank robbery along with two kittens murder until the end of interrogation.
Thing is, Jeff knew his rights and asked for a lawyer, that's when the interview should have ended. His rights were abused, as was he because the interviewer knew he was starting withdrawals. Shameful policing.
@Jay Cee if you think these are the bad ones you are clueless. There are some in Anderson, Indiana that made my buddy stand for his mugshot for a public intoxication charge on two broken ankles which were the reason he was arrested. He jumped down of a ledge drunk and broke his ankles. Someone called 911 for him and they didn't take him to the hospital, they took him to jail. That's just one of many from that jail/police department. So yeah these guys are freaking angels.
@Brad Sanders How many 'angels' do you think have been responsible for ensuring innocent persons have incarcerated over the years, some of whom have been put to death as a result, suffered the most heinous crimes against them by fellow prisoners and guards.. and that was made possible due to an abuse of power.
@katherine20 .com the thing is people operating the court system are supposed to have no bias. but the fact your arrested already sets a tone for thier opinion before you even go in to court. many many police write full in five page book reports of incidents . while others lie and write one page summaries. these reports greatly impact your outcome of you are on his side of the table ... while this guy is crazy they system is the system
@Vinícius Egidio they're asking for a source because you made a claim. the burden of proof is on you. & unfortunately dropping a Wikipedia article and the classic "do your own research" isn't a valid source. just sayin
@Isaachow is being respectful towards women being a simp idk yall call guys simps for being respectful towards women + Wikipedia is not the best source
@Isaac y'all call any guy who defends or is even nice to a woman a "simp" when rlly a simp isn't like that at all guys can't b nice to women anymore bc u guys start to call him a simp or white knight 😭
@C P It was less difficult to prove than it would be to honestly prove she was innocent ,but they felt they achieved that. Parents just don't lie and deflect for weeks over an accident, there's no reason to unless you know that you should be convicted of murder. She didn't have any other family she cared to protect, she wanted to protect herself. The defence manipulated the shit out of the jury. That is the only reason they came to the verdict they did. They were told repeatedly that if they stated she was guilty it was because they were overly emotional and not suited to be on the jury. I don't understand how the way her defense attorney acted wasn't enough manipulation to call a mistrial, but i also don't understand the illogical nature of the "justice" system
@a jedi youngling That implies that an overused word people constantly grasp onto has any power over anyone else. Know that if someone is frothing at the mouth shouting you down as a simp when it's completely irrelevant they're just wasting their time. Of all the "bias" in the U.S court system a supposed leaning towards sympathy for women (biological women or all women?) is the least of our problems.
@lily oh come on. seriously. It isnt reliable because you get people who sometimes troll it not because it has full bullshit articles. Wikipedia is almost entirely clear 99.99 percent of the time with honesty. The whole unreliability claim is stupid because its innaccurate and exaggerated.
@Alexander Bell It's biased and is statistically verifiable. On a balance of probabilities a man is less likely to get away with a crime. So 'men get away with this shit'. Is not a valid arguement.
@Vinícius Egidio I think it depends. Statistically darker skinned women are given the same sentence as men. What you are talking about is how the justice system benefits young & light skinned women who are pretty.
@a jedi youngling wikipedia is typically built off of academic sources and publishes meshed into one summary. your teachers didn't want you to have the easy way to information bud...
Whatever happened to basic logic and common sense? It's true women often (often is the key word, not always or even most of the time) get it easier than their male counterparts but it's also true that the system is awful and unfair to people in general. Both of these narratives can be correct at the same time, it's not always one or the other. Also, saying Wikipedia is unreliable is a cheap excuse to not even read the actual sources that it links to because everyone with a brain knows that Wikipedia doesn't pretend to be a primary source, it LINKS to primary sources. People just want to be able to lazily dismiss it for the sake purpose of fulfilling their own agendas. This horrible argument that so many people throw around is basically a genetic fallacy.
@Miracle Sage Wikipedia is as accurate as its sources and the drive of its writers to tell the fact from the personal opinion. You are right in pinpointing that people are lazy in dismissing instantly whatever is mentioned out of Wikipedia but then such people can equally claim that the one who references out of Wikipedia is also lazy for not scrolling down to the sources to actually reference these directly rather than the writers of the Wikipedia article. I am a lover of history so I can tell that most historical articles are correctly referenced and generally unbiased. However, that is "generally unbiased" and that only due to the large number of people writing in them, often specialists of the field. This means that quite on a frequent basis I find inaccuracies, "convenient omissions" and downright erroneous affirmations. But considering the ease of use and availability to everyone, Wikipedia can serve as a satisfactory-enough first-recourse source of information on anything.
As you mentioned, women get lighter sentences, and this is by no stretch of the imagination a US phenomenon. It is the same everywhere in the world - in fact in Europe the phenomenon maybe even more pronounced. It was not like that in past societies where women were held as accountable as men, precisely because sentences were given for the sole purpose of revenge for the victim(s). Yes, today women are treated in all ways and manners as A-class citizens and men as B-class and this is reflected also in the justice system. But all is not entirely down to that : to play the devil's advocate here, a sentence has 3 major components : 1) Revenge for the victim and its relatives = the law replaces the customary law of vendetta/revenge 2) Correction; i:e: redressing the offender = the law replaces socio-religious practices 3) Society protection from the offender => the offender may probably go on to do it again, thus locking him up will protect society from his expected future behaviour 4) Society protection from like-minded potential offenders => other wannabe offenders may hesitate to act upon their urges knowing the types of sentences awaiting them
People mostly count on No1 and at best they may go on 2 but they keep forgetting 3 and 4. Now, comparing men and women, it is instantly visible that as our species is biologically set, it is men who are more inclined to crime. Yes it is down to sexual/reproductive functions afterall - women have instant access to sex and are more sheltered from the bad corners of life (e.g. far less homeless women than men - all a woman has to do is sell her body to someone or to many), thus they are far less inclined to commit crimes to survive and have a try at gaining advantage. So that means that female offenders are generally expected to present, on a statistical basis, less of a risk in terms of No3 and No4. As such the sentences they receive for same/similar crimes are comparatively of visibly shorter periods. People (not just men but also victimised women and relatives) count on 1 and 2 and thus get frustrated at this reality. So there you have it.
In my personal opinion, it is not just in the sentences the women receive but in the overall treatment of women in the justice system. Everywhere in the world police and courts just don't push it when it comes to women - and they will only convict them when there is extraordinary amount of evidence against them while for men, this is not the case. And of course they are virtually left free when it comes to lying and giving false testimonials. It is rather in the sexual crimes where this is far more pronounced. For example it is roughly estimated that "way more" than 50% of "rape accusations" do not conform to what the crime of rape actually is and mostly refer to "he said, she said" situations and yet men are condemned with all the lack of evidence. Out of these 50% "unverified rape accusations" about half are evidently "regretted sex" and a significant number of them are outright lies. And yet there is almost no repercussion for women for lying, even in cases where innocent men have been imprisoned, lost jobs, lost marriages and overall had their lives destroyed. You know, in muslim Saria Law the testimony of a woman is given 50% validity as that of a man. We may think of this as "atrociously unfair" but what do westernised women do in practice if not really trying their best to prove Saria Law right? Evidently, not an advocate of it, but... there is always a but. I think the law needs to get redressed as to the treatment of women - it is because of the laxity and general impunity that women are inclined to behave like that. If the law provided the same space to men to lie and wrongfully accuse (and men do so of course), men would do it in a statistically far greater frequency.
@Dinos Thank you for the very insightful response! I will read it and if I have anything to add I'll respond. For now I skimmed, and I am not at all surprised that the gender sentencing gap is an issue throughout the world. But again I'll fully read and analyze your post in a bit and I appreciate the insight a ton!!
@Vinícius Egidio linking the Wikipedia page for “sentencing disparity” has NOTHING to do with proving Casey Anthony was acquitted because she’s a woman. nice try though 👍
@M all i said was wikipedia is not the best source for reliability. also who cares it's the internet not the fucking dictionary or the thesaurus im allowed to use slang or spell the way that i want to 😭
@Alexander Bell babe it’s not rocket science. im pretty sure it’s a known fact that women have it much easier when it comes to crimes and being convicted of them. i mean a girl can say she was sexually abused at a young age and suddenly she’s not guilty which is EXACTLY what casey did💀💀
I can say with almost certainty that he didnt get sober & start his journey towards working for coca coca 12 hours later. That is a load of fu fu internet bullshit
Not necessarily due to any of the overly analytic narration but I like this guy. I want to put some money on his books. Does anyone know if this can be done?
This guy didn't even have to try to punk the cops. All these wannabe geniuses who get interrogated let their narcissism get in the way of them easily slapping away the elementary level manipulation detectives pull. I would personally act very similarly as him. I probably wouldn't be comedic gold with pitch perfect timing as this guy though. I would be sarcastically throwing back every bit of their bullshit back at them. I learned from a young age when detectives manipulated me into a corner and they never punked me again after that.
FIVE hours later on H time...sorry I would be in the John by then with NO possibility of being anywhere else for the forseeable future....Thank the Lord I am not in a police station on H time! Forget the Anti....Jeff is a Hero!
How is the conclusion unknown? Doesn't this channel investigate at all the stories they cover or do they simply regurgitate old videos then give some pop-sci analysis?
Just want to point out that the cop violated his rights, as soon as Jeff said “I’m not talking to you. I want a lawyer.” The cop should have stopped talking and left the room. But he kept trying to get Jeff to talk.
Right...If they thought he was guilty and planned on charging Jeff.. They were never going to prosecute Jeff. Jeff could only claim he asked for a lawyer in court, which the detectives knew would never happen. He was a witness...at best. Them continuing to talk should have been an indicator that they didn't have shit. In fact, I think Jeff knows this and says so.
@Ricicici 33 what? This is absolutely not the same thing. Firstly, these guys are policemen, if they punched a member of public in the face for no reason, they'd be fired or something similar. Secondly, a member of public SHOULD uphold the law, whilst you're not a policeman, you wouldn't get in trouble for punching someone in the face once unless they held a position.
They can not force him against his will into the interrogation room without the lawyer present. They lured him into the room using food and drinks, to which he agreed. If anything, they failed to hold up their end of the deal of butterfingers. It seems like they just held him for the remaining of the time and then released him.
@Gregory Esposito no it does not. Its constitution and spans all states.. ask for a lawyer, interview is terminated until they get there, any information gained before lawyer gets there after the sixth was invokes is inadmissable in court
i dont know what the law says about it but in practice that never happens and you should expect this. the phrase "i want a lawyer" can be interpreted as just a expression that you would like to have a layer right now, as if you were talking about a feeling.
Wtf part don’t people understand?! “I want a lawyer!” Duct tape- over the mouth. SHUT UP! There’s no talking after that statement. Everyone has a right to one my god! He even knows the whole system and the game and he continues to talk. Oy!
i was in the police cells in the UK for 7 days & nights & had to drink water from the flushing toilet, the cell even had shit all over the walls, i do miss that cell
The antihero phenomenon is not something superb in my opinion.. I don't find him or any other antiheros "amazing" or anything. Sure they don't behave as an everyday person should, and it's interesting to see, in the movies for example, the tale behind a supposedly evil person. But in real life, besides examining someone's history with the purpose of learning and later applying that knowledge, justifying any crime is just bullshit to me. Not in this case in particular, but in general, we learn to "justify" killers, rapists through "their tumultuous upbringing"; we often also learn to forget the lives these people impacted. In some occasions less concerning, like this guy who I suppose didn't kill anybody, but then there's criminals who have taken lives and we're showing "understanding" for the criminal, and completely forget about the victims with time.
@Krak Head go on then free all the murderers rapists and other kind if nasty individuals instead of just staying at the good point that some cops are bad at their jobs But ofc murder, robbery, assault and other things are irrelevant if you're colored, that's the way the world should go on obviously
I was taken for questioning once as a suspect. I told them everything, got myself a cup of coffee, and was released. I was not the young girl they wanted to hold for the night.
@ditzyalpaca Nah, Jeff is just trying to make sure he isn't sentenced to a couple of decades behind bars convicted of something he didn't do. He has every right to stay silent even though it might be inconvenient for the people interrogating him.
He's displaying confidence because he knows they have no evidence, they have no idea what they're talking about, they just want a confession.
And a confession without an evidence only helps the interrogator, but never the suspect. He knows this. He was basically baited and lied to, just to get a confession....
@The Artisan this guy knows, my dad got jumped by a guy and because "witnesses" (people who knew the guy who started it) called the police they made their minds up it was my dads fault and he got arrested and fined for assault he now has a record for someone attacking him , and the footage of the guy starting it mysteriously disappeared from the cameras on the street/establishment it happened at... police hardly bothered asking my dads side of the story and thought it was cut and dry because he was on his own and no body would stand up for him the system failed him.
@Troy Wallace Lad, I'm told he's got clean by people who theoretically know him. I chose to believe and I truly don't care whether or not you do the same.
@João Martins So you just repeat something you have no idea about as truth? Gotcha "lad"
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João Martins2021-07-22 21:33:41 (edited 2021-07-22 21:33:52 )
@Troy Wallace pal, the dude who said it was quite detailed so yes, I considered it to be quite believable. As I said I don't really care if u believe it or not
I’ve looked at his channel I see nothing about him being clean and he still looks and acts like he’s in the grips of active addiction not recovery. Maybe I’m missing a few videos or something
@João Martins Not sure about him being clean but when this video was initially posted somebody put up the link to his YouTube channel. He has a band or had depending on how things have gone since for him. In his own words, he didn't even know this video of him was circulating and many people were on there sending their regards and hoping the best for him. I'm sure the comment where the link was posted is somewhere still in here.
@ResilientSweeper You either had to search "Jeff The Anti Hero", read the pinned comment or the description. In fact JCS mentioned it at the end of the video. Your ignorance is proof why you don't deserve the right to think or act freely.
@João Martins my dear friend Evan met Eppstein in a bar two or so weeks back. It was around noon, he was drinking a beer and he was approached by a man who claimed he was eppstein. It sounds like that. Stop ducking like farming by benefiting from this sad cituation.
Man,iv been jeff but an English version and the cops used to purposely leave you in the cells to miss the sat morning court then get you out for interview and you'd be stuck in them damn cells till Monday detoxing. Fcuking dark times
Those cops had nothing. Only a couple pieces of evidence I'm missing lol. Ha, like him being there and the confession of him doing it. He didn't do that shit. He came out the front door of the house he said I didn't do shit at
The moment he says, “I ain’t talking. I want a lawyer...at that moment, the interrogation MUST STOP. Any confession after this would be thrown out as coercive. that’s why that rule is there. These are baaaaad cops
Unfortunately not true. The right to remain silent is the most important tool. Yes get a lawyer, but know the cops can and will keep questioning you. If anything they will put more pressure on you if they think you’re guilty. So it comes down to you to keep your mouth shut until your lawyer gets there.
@bbz232 For sure.. the overwhelming majority eventually gets tricked into talking, even though it's common knowledge to not talk under any circumstance. pretty hard when you're used to being 'respectful' during ordinary conversations..
Self-incriminating evidence would be thrown out, yes. But, evidence toward another individual’s arrest wouldn’t. I get the feeling that these detectives didn’t think it was him the whole time and were trying to narrow down suspects or get more evidence as to what happened, not necessarily a confession.
Chez LeMac2020-09-07 14:27:37 (edited 2020-09-07 14:37:12 )
@bbz232 Incorrect reply from a non-lawyer. When a person who is subject to custodial interrogation (not free to leave) requests counsel, all questioning must cease and any prompted statements are inadmissible. There are more nuances, read up (as in why he is reinterviewed after asserting right to counsel- Defendant can make unprompted request to speak to police after doing so and questioning may continue). Some criminal procedure may vary State to State, can't claim to know blanket rules, just PA and Federal. From an atty, thanks.
@John Hooper No, it's actually not "on you." The second you request an attorney nothing that is said after that point is admissible. They denied him an attorney and used him withdrawal to break him down. That's coercion...and even a public defender would have that entire case against him dismissed and the cops would (should) have been reprimanded.
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John Hooper2020-09-08 19:14:36 (edited 2020-09-08 19:15:26 )
@M Pando Yeah sure.. If he keeps on talking it is on him.. You have to the right to remain silent.. But he did not.. it is simple..
@Dorian Gray Very interesting.. but as I read this, it is very clear that its not black or white..
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John Hooper2020-09-08 21:19:49 (edited 2020-09-08 21:22:48 )
@Dorian Gray So at minute 2:30 he clearly says he does not want to talk.. He also DID NOT ask for a lawyer.. They instantly abort the mission.. but they let him sit there for 2 hours.. Then another cop starts over.. The cop DOES NOT ask him about the case.. Jeff starts the conversation on his own.. These cops exactly know what they are doing and Jeff fucked up..
John Hooper I can appreciate you wanting to defend your position. But no, all questioning of any type must cease. It doesn’t matter whether they’re asking him about the case whether they’re asking him about his personal life wanting to be his friend. He is in an interrogation room being held for interrogation. The moment he asked for a lawyer, the cop needs to put them back in the cell and give them the opportunity to call a lawyer. That’s it. It’s black-and-white. I do agree with you, the cops know exactly what they’re doing. The system, unfortunately, is not perfect.
Do you really believe any of the five levels of courts below SCOTUS would throw out a conviction for armed robbery unless OJ's attorneys were representing him? In the real world, most conviction are illegal. Only the rich and/or famous have a chance at ultimate justice.
@Nate Leal The rich already have lawyers on retainer. They don't say, "I want a lawyer". They say, "call attorney so and so before anything else happens." And the police know that a real lawyer will have their ass if they try to play games.
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Cero of Clouds2020-09-09 11:59:48 (edited 2020-09-09 12:00:56 )
@Dodged a Bullet Incorrect. He's obviously already in jail (looks like a suicide watch suit he's wearing, but idk for sure) which is why he says "put me back in the cell." Jeff must've said he'd talk to police which is why they interview him again and reread his Miranda rights. You can talk to police whenever you want even after you lawyer yourself up. You still retain the right to waiver the Miranda warning. But Jeff never said anything anyways.
@scarlet starlet How is he a cop lover for believing people should think before speaking... or not speaking? Since you made the assertion you must be an antifa member.
Come on people it used to be taught on the playground loose lips sink ships think about it. You have the right to remain silent but the question is do you have the capability?
T/A Plus Hemi you got the definition of ACAB from someone who doesn’t support it, which is fair, but my two cents as a supporter of ACAB is that it’s just a phrase to say that the current system when it comes to police is pretty shit, and while cops as individuals may be perfectly fine people, they still work for and support a shitty system that hurts a lot of people.
@Idollize it was the abbreviation I was asking to be deciphered. I don't care about anyone's movement or ideas. I've got my own movement it's called ISLE. The point of our group is to remain just me, as founder president and head of moral standards, myself as the VP and treasurer and I usually is in charge of coordinating meetings outings and ISLE Awards banquets. So thank you for telling me about yours you are kind.
B Sheppard someone said “oh, he’s a cop lover”, to which he replied “for sure.” Interpret that how you’d like, but I personally take it as him admitting to loving cops.
@bbz232 I know it's you that's wrong. What this guy said is absolutely true. I'm a lawyer and I've gotten evidence where people first have said they don't want to talk and want a lawyer and then in that same interview a few minutes later let information go that they maybe shouldn't. The two times that. Has happened I've got the evidence that the cops got after the fact that the person declined to speak and ask for a lawyer thrown out. What does gentleman said when someone says they want a lawyer and they don't want to talk the interview has to stop. And before any of the evidence that can be used that the accused says after that. He has two again re-read the guy his rights before what he says can be submitted in court. It's you that is wrong and what this guy said is absolutely right.
@Vin Kie no he's not right. Yes cops later can trick or whatever to get somebody to confess. But they first then again have to re-read this guy's rights. Just as that gentleman said that you're commenting under. Once the accused says he wants a lawyer and does not want to talk. Anyting he says after that can be argued to not be submitted as evidence. Like I said the cop would have to then again re-read this guy has rights and get him to say what he said again. It's funny how you people want to interpret the law when none of you are even lawyers and it's obvious. If any of you were a lawyer. Which I assume the guy who originally wrote this comment might be. In law school this point is drilled in your head. If you got caught up on something that you said after you didn't want to talk. That's just because you didn't have a good lawyer to argue for you. A good enough lawyer to identify that these cops got their statement after he declined to speak with them. Any lawyer knows that you can get evidence thrown out that was said after they declined to speak with cops. Again the cop would have had to reread the person his rights and then ask him to repeat what he said. If anybody comes back and says otherwise and says they're a lawyer I do not believe them that they are actually really a lawyer as myself. I've worked in the criminal court system for over 20 years. 8 of those years I spent as a court-appointed attorney in Washington State. This is no different in Georgia. The reason why this guy has thousands of comments is because he's correct.
@Chez LeMac finally someone with a brain. I'm actually an attorney and you explained it more professionally than myself LOL. But that's what I'm explaining that the guy who made the original comment is absolutely correct. I'm glad you pointed out the fact that that's why these cops had to keep coming back with this guy and rereading him his rights. I was trying to explain that once he says he doesn't want to talk and ask for a lawyer. Everything he says after cannot be used unless they re-read the man his rights then make him repeat what he said.
@Kristi Black what are you talkin about? Actually what are you trying to even say? Are you saying that cops are low-level Freemason? Yes it's possible just like any profession for someone to be a Freemason or as you say even a low-level Freemason. . When you talk about low-level I guess you mean people that are in the The Apprentice stage? Because even a police officer can be also a journeyman or a master. There's been cops who reach the 33 degree of Freemasonry. No it's not common but it has happened. Do you know the guy who played Kramer on Seinfeld is US 33 degree Mason. You don't have to be a president or someone of great importance to be a Freemason. So you really don't know what you're talkin about and only probably starting to Dabble and conspiracies without knowing or even caring to know the full truth. All you probably do is hear the name Freemasonry and think bad, evil and control the world. But no it's not really the Freemasons who control the world. If I were to actually say who controls the world as far as power. My comment would be reported and taking down or not even put up or anybody else to see about myself. That's because a lot of channels like possibly this one has their comments go through a review process that YouTube so they can pick and choose which comments they want to go up. But back to Freemasonry and your comment. Can you explain yourself further instead of like some meth addict
@alia meow go look up the definition of interrogate. It doesn't have to be aggressive interviewing to be considered interrogation. Interrogation can also be formal interviewing.. hot it surprises me how many people will just open their mouth and say something when they don't really know s***
@Miley Morales yep exactly. It's good to see others also have a brain. It's obvious that these people watch too many movies and believe everything in them.
@John Hooper do do you need to just stop talking. I am an attorney and you don't know what you're talkin about. If you are being interviewed, interrogated anyway you want to say it. Once you say that you want to talk to an attorney. Anything that is said after that they cannot use unless day read you your rights again and then get you to repeat what you said. If you were 2 let's say being charged of murder. They have no evidence on you except someone just said you committed this murder. They sit you down and you tell them I don't want to speak to you. Then you tell them you want a lawyer. Then let's say after you did that you mediately said to them I am guilty of this murder. They could in no way even if they had you recording saying that. There is no way that that will be used in court. Even if your lawyer somehow missed that the judge would catch it and not allow it. You do not know what you're talkin about. It's just crazy that you will go on or several people on here Will Go On acting like what they're saying is the truth. But all they have to do is a simple Google search to find out the truth. But they don't and they just continue pushing their BS. Go to your Yellow Pages right now and pick any lawyer you want and then you call them and ask them if that's true. I'm sure not a lawyer one will tell you what you're saying is factual
You know, not every single cop is bad, and I honestly think all y'all want to hate on everyone of them. Not every single one of them, are bad we have amazing police officers too, and in reality, we need them, yes, they need to be retrained and have more sensitive training, and they need to be trained a lot longer, but not every single one of them are bad, and it's ridiculous to act like they all are.
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Joy Walker2020-09-12 01:18:37 (edited 2020-09-12 01:22:20 )
If people are stupid enough to keep talking then that's on them. I have no sympathy for a murderer whatsoever, even if cops murder, but not every single cop is bad, we do have a lot of wonderful and amazing police officers stop hating on every single one of them. But this guy wasn't a murderer, I think they were just questioning him about it.
Yeah, it should be thrown out, but they won't. Bad judges allow it all the time in despite of the protest of the defence lawyers. As well, I have never heard them read him his Miranda rights!!!!!
Sure but they can still use whatever the suspect says as tips for their investigation. Clever cops could say it was hearsay (not directly coming from the suspect).
Is there such a thing as a good one? I’d argue there isn’t.
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Chez LeMac2020-09-17 22:28:20 (edited 2020-09-17 22:29:13 )
@excep7 Read em and weep XD Criminal Procedure was one of my strong suits back in lawyer school. An explicit request for an attorney requires all questioning to cease. If the suspect makes an ambiguous or equivocal statement concerning the right to legal counsel following an unequivocal waiver of the right to counsel, the officer does not need to stop and ask clarifying questions.
Though the suspect’s invocation of the right to counsel absolutely cuts off interrogation, the suspect may open the door to additional interrogation by initiating communication with officers (Minnick v. Mississippi, 498 U.S. 146 (1990); Edwards v. Arizona, 451 U.S. 477 (1981)).
@Chez LeMac Son, did you even read what you quoted? If the suspect re engages, the exclusion rule doesn't apply. If your advice is "feel free to keep talking after you asked for a lawyer," that is just stupid.
@Dorian Gray you couldn’t be more wrong. Let me explain. If a suspect asks for an attorney, but they continue talking to him afterwards, and the suspect makes an incriminating statement, then the suspect or his counsel can file a motion to suppress any incriminating statements made after invoking his right. Now carry on
Did this video get re-editied?? I swear there was a part where he talked about body language analysis and the detective talking about the gun over at Eric's house.
@Butter Block what?? Man that's sum bs fr that was one of my favorite parts of the video. I thought I was trippin and just couldn't find it. Hate YT bruh
Humanity isn't selflessness and grace. There can be a glimmer of humanity long before anything like that is shown. If a "glimmer of humanity" is put down to selflessness and grace then most anti-heroes fail at being anti-heroes.
I wish more people would pay attention to this, Jeff told the cops the truth. He said I know you don't have any evidence or you wouldn't be talking to me this much. Bingo, release in 12 hours
I’d imagine people who would be dumb and evil enough to murder would not want to look guilty by asserting their right to a lawyer. Like that girl who hired people to kill her parents because they didn’t want her wasting her life on their dime. If someone really broke into your house and killed your parents (or tried in the case of the father) in a robbery gone wrong then surely you’d just help, right? I think that’s as far as they think.
It's the most intelligent question for EVERYONE, innocent or guilty, to ask for a lawyer when being accused on something . Never ever talk to the police alone when they accuse you of doing illegal shit , in their eyes you're the predator anyways.
@sadi al The monitoring shit is borderline abusive, but other than that it's sheer bad parenting to me, no more, no less. Her mother actually sacrificed her own life for Jennifer under the false pretense that her daughter was in grave danger too, when in fact Jennifer was responsible for her mother's murder and the attempted murder on her father. They loved their daughter, she hated them.
@CC well you think he's a nice guy right?! There shouldn't be any issues with him staying at your house! Right?! Oh he would like you! I'm being facetious.
Yea, right? I was noticing the comments were kinda liking him, so before I thought this was one of those cases were the suspect is innocent. I hope he cleaned his act up as well.
Plot Twist - "Jeff" works for the CIA and is undergoing a clandestine counter-interrogation training program. This was his last test before graduation as an espionage specialist.
"you have the right to remain silent" remains silent "do you understand?" remains silent "do you comprehend the right I've just said to you?" remains silent
Unfortunately, SCOTUS has ruled that you must articulate reserving your right to remain silent. Simply remaining silent doesn't invoke it.
Berghuis v. Thompkins
The real fuck-up here was when they continued to interrogate him after he demanded an attorney before answering any questions, even if they coerced him to momentarily waive that right by falsely agreeing to give him some candy and then reneging, negotiating in extremely bad faith.
what makes me laugh these days is no smoking i would say to the cops if i was in a cell i need a smoke and until you prove im guilty i can have a some so i require someone to take me outside at least once an hour for a smoke or its the human rights court
@Samuel Bennett Yes! But when you are given an example in school it’s usually some very unrealistic and stupid model character 😕 not many teachers use real people (for that I know of)
The problem is that if he has been in a heroin addiction for 14 years! If he isn’t given methadone or any other treatment against his addiction! He can die, it’s extremely dangerous just going cold turkey with heroin!
Update: Guys he wasn't arrested (obvi he was falsely accused). he has a Youtube channel titled "The Legend of Jeff". link to his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0srs6NKm-s
@DONALD Duck no, i mean in the way he talks. doing drugs is very stupid, but as my comment said “it really is a shame that his life went down this path”
@Meme Juice {they-them} I completely agree with your comment. Even if people make dumb decisions you can tell in the way he talks he’s not by any means an idiot. If things had ended up differently he might have done big things in his life time
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Who Cares2021-08-21 13:23:25 (edited 2021-08-21 13:23:33 )
@sadi al I love how you call other people names instead of putting up constructive arguments, really does reenforce ur arguement
@John Semmens chill out man. at the end of the day not everyone just chooses, and even if they did who knows what they thought would come of it? let’s not group a whole bunch of people together please.
As a former heroin addict, as well as someone who went through the justice system in my state, I genuinely hope that guy really is working for Coca-Cola and is living the dream.
Alexander Carder2020-07-01 00:32:08 (edited 2020-07-01 00:32:58 )
Yeah me too. I’m an ex addict to and is like watching myself seeing poor old Jeff here. It’s a fricken nightmare when you get nicked and you start rattling off the smack. In my early years and when I wasn’t well known to the feds I would just confess just to get out on bail because I needed a fix. But as the years roll bye you just canny afford to get mugged off else you’re looking at time.
this is proof positive that the police will railroad you guilty or not. hope these cops were fired for trying to violate this guys rights. just tell me your side, i didn't do anything, i want a LAWYER, just tell me and....3 more times same shit.
This is a perfect example of how to handle one of these situations. The detective asking you questions has one job and one job only, to get you in as MUCH trouble as possible and to get as much info out of you as possible so he can use it against you in court. People have to understand that when you’re in a room like that these people will act like your friend but they are your enemy from the beginning and are looking to slap you with whatever offense they can just by using the words you used while talking to them.
Virgin Norman: works a job, goes to a store, buys a coke. Chad Jeff: gets accused of armed robbery, gets a few cokes from the cops, gets back to his life.
Or maybe we should help our addicts rather than putting them into a pig pen where drugs are everywhere.. we treat them and put them with criminal's when they need substance abuse help..
Oh wait, there's no money to be made if addicts are recovering... Let's give em narcan and Suboxone and synthetic opiate's to deter them off the hardcore stuff and into the pharmaceutical stuff..... Absolute evil of a system.
@Da Feef If you're so mature why didn't you just leave it be, Mother Teresa? All I did was highlight the lack of originality within the YouTube comment section. The guy's initial comment was basically a 1:1 copy of the one directly above his (not saying either is remotely funny IMO). I just told it like it is.
@Elegant Monstrous again as I said did I say I was going to do anything about it? Did you miss your hospital appointment about your memory or something
@Elegant Monstrous to be completely honest I see no point in this no more and wish to not make this one of those comment threads that big youtubers like Penguinz0 talk about though actually that would be cool but I'm sure you can get my point that I can't be bothered making this a huge long thing that's kind of pointless so goodbye and good day to you sir/ma'am
anyways i'm bein a jerk was just noticing how deep you went into the thread it's all good homie we all been there. as to typing lessons, it's the youtube comment section, not James Joyce
@tie woah out of tens of thousands of people two people have similar ideas for a meme? damn that's freakin NUTS, a coincidence like that is ASTRONOMICAL, 100% gotta be copied, unoriginal, dogshit comment.
@JustMeHere _ anyways at the time that the comment was written, the top comment nearly identical and had a few words switched up, so I’m positive they copied it but this was blown way out of proportion lmfao
@Blindeyeseesfar that is not true anything they say in the interview can be used against them, even before their rights are read, watch the other videos on this channelq
Nope. It was all perfect according to Miranda. Interrogation immediately stopped. Officer is allowed to ask questions peripherally which he did, nothing was "what happened " line. If suspect initiates any conversation, it is admissable. Also you can't tell if you don't watch closely but otherwise it's obvious thar these are multiple interviews. He was returned to holding and he requested to talk again mainly to keep getting Cokes....and a Butterfinger. See the sixteen minute mark. Also the officers went above and beyond because they did not have to read his rights every time like they did unless 14 days had passed.
@TrAsH You're not making a good case for your side unless you're just trying to rile people up. Some police officers are great people others are the dregs of society. However, what is certain is that it's a profession that will give a gun to just about anyone and because they don't pay well either the lowest of the low go for the job or those who really want to make a difference. Look at public school teachers for example. Some of the nicest people in the world when they do the job because they want to help children and also has some of the absolute most despicable people that just want to have power over children
BatJeff so many people don’t understand this 💁♀️💁♀️ they will put u through of a hell of a fight to challenge them even in court. Money and time and agony
Cops aren't interested in guilt but in results hence why there are so many laws put in place to protect people against the police. Only a naive idiot will automatically assume they're on your side.
@DANIEL BIN OMAR - lool if that was the case then why do so many police officers and blue lives matter people worship the Punisher, a fictional character whose entire thing is murdering criminals?
@TrAsH What sucks is the ones that are bad are often protected even by the good ones. This gives an overall appearance of them being bad. Especially when it comes to how they handle peaceful protesters. Key word peaceful. But if you are ok with what’s been going on, on that end there’s no way we’ll agree or come to a common ground.
@DANIEL BIN OMAR - Police don't deal out justice, but okay.
No one is demanding vigilantly justice. Most of us want stronger social programs to help make LEOs jobs easier. And then of course proper vetting and training of LEOs.
@DANIEL BIN OMAR - Life is not black and white. Sometimes there will be gray areas. This is one of those gray areas. I'm not a moderate. Just firm enough in my opinions to not be constrained into thinking my options are "right" and "left."
Its very naive of you guys to think that anything after when he asked for a lawyer not being able to be used. I have seen first hand that very thing happen, an addict kept in a room withdrawing asks for a lawyer keeps asking and keeps being left in the room to squirm eventually tells on himself just to get out of the room after continued questioning.. the cops have no interest or concern of playing by the rules or LAWS even tho they are such good/honorable people LOL they are scum, ALL of them.. not 1 would say hey, the kid asked for a lawyer, let’s just stop cuz we won’t be able to use this... NOT ONE. And so if not ONE would do that, you then can CORRECTLY say yes in fact ALL cops are bad
@You Won’t Reply Are you talking about ACAB? Acab doesn't mean all cops are bad, its means are Cops are Bastards, Bastard with indirectly refers to being corrupt
@D Bk damn what state do you live in that pays kindergarten teahcers 59k with these "amazing benefits" and then 90k for higher grades? Because that shit ain't happening in Florida
@D Bk I dont know what municipality you are from but I made more as the GM of a fast food chain than the average cop in Philadelphia with less than 5 years on the job. Teachers start out under 30k a year in most schools there. The city often tries to buy out older teachers because they are making too much by offering them a 40-50k bonus to retire at 20 years and collect a pension because it is cheaper over time. Most inner city education systems are corrupt as hell and full of white collar criminals.
@You Won’t Reply orginal. Who writes your insults? The guy who invented wonder bread? Here I'll write the next one for you. "Your username is accurate" Feel free to use it 😊
On the last link, control-F for "North carolina" and you will notice that the highest for police officer is about 41k (these are median salaries mind you some are lower and some are above).
Regarding the poverty claim: https://livingwage.mit.edu/states/37. I was mistaken, I was thinking of the living wage and not poverty wage and I will admit to that error. Notice however that the police officer salary, when paid hourly, is about 19ish an hour (divide by 2 and drop the excess zeros) below the living wage requirement for a single parent house hold or some other cases that you can look into yourself if you really care and aren't just trying to start arguments on the internet
@Aria Regardless of how it may seem, I do agree that is a low salary for what they are doing. Risking your life for 40k a year is kinda trash. I have family who fill bags at a medical facility for around 33k a year with no risk of injury and plenty of upward movement without an education.
If police officers were paid more, I genuinely believe that there would be more competition and their superiors could be more selective. I do not think that cop = racist or cop = evil. It's a job that will attract people who are more likely to be both because of the low pay so it's got to be something you want to do. Whether you want to actually protect and serve or just want power, That's really hard to tell in a simple interview (I'd imagine anyway). And every encounter I've had with a police officer has been fairly good (aside from the ticket but that's my fault for speeding).
It's like teachers in public school, you get the great ones who love what they do and the ones who just need a job and can barely put up with kids, The bad really overshadow the good in most cases.
@Blindeyeseesfar that's not how the legal system works whatsoever, you're thinking of one of miranda rights and applying it to the whole legal system. Please don't say things about a subject you don't know about
@Exandah Uhm. If you count the number of bad cops on video, you can even double that for the bad cops not on video, that number could not compare to the entire number of the Police Force.
@DANIEL BIN OMAR - you realize that's what people who want to defund the police actually believe, right? It's not super ultra centrist, that's what the "radical" side wants for the most part
Not if he doesnt have money for a lawyer to get it thrown out. A public pretender will do nothing but urge him to plead guilty for a deal. Believe me I've been thru the "justice" system many times as a former heroin addict myself.
@You Won’t Reply cops are human. Nothing more. Nothing less. Don't think for one moment that just becuase someone's on the police force that they have a strong set of morals, or are even willing to act on ethical morals.
@You Won’t Reply Not simpleton, just a 29 year old historian and university teacher who has is not only read about theory but already have experience with these pigs.
The police are not your friend and are not there to serve and protect you.
@Blindeyeseesfar And even if your words are inadmissible, you never know what tidbit of information you're giving them to help construct their rube goldberg argument that you did it. People inadvertently hand investigators the lynchpin of prosecutions all the time. Talking to them will never help you.
They're not bad people either, they're not monsters. But they have a job to do, our system is adversarial, and if you're in a jumpsuit they are your adversary, one that would just really, really, appreciate your cooperation in their efforts to orchestrate your downfall.
It’s because he’s been in this position before. Most of the murderers and other criminals on this channel have had minimal, if any, contact with LE. They only know the bullshit they see on TV.
You only gotta go through the system once to learn it, you’ve got nothing but free time once you’re in there to learn every trick like the back of your hand.
A lot of us grow up knowing to shut our mouths around the police. 🤷🏻♀ Never give extra info, never tell them (any office, etc, not just legal) anything you don't absolutely have to tell them.
A lot of it has to do with experience and learning from them. He has gone through it before, so maybe his first time he did it just as bad as any other people. But once you look into it and know what the process is like, you'll know how to behave to not incriminate yourself.
He was in this position before, at this point, he knew what bullshit the cops will pull, and he just either don't give af anymore and just let it slide.
@CHSD a lot of us who had good parents. Lol my kids were 1 when they learned the only thing to ever say to law enforcement is "idk" and "lawyer". But my family has some legal system ptsd from an uncle who was wrongly convicted of rape for 13 yrs and was exonerated by DNA. We kinda dont trust the cops around here haha but with that being said the one cop i absolutely adored, who was a legitimately good man and officer committed suicide 7 years ago... so i know there are good ones out there.
I had friends like this in my early 20s they got arrested so many times that they just learned to lie better. This guy could have done the robbery but he knows better than to confess because lying worked for him before.
So, Jeff asks for a lawyer, never gets one, and gets interrogated for twelve hours without being charged. Note to self: if I’m detained, ask if I am under arrest and if not, leave.
He was under arrest at that time. He got his lawyer, all interviews are entirely optional. As shown, he can simply say "take me back to my cell" and they do.
@DeathnoteBB Not true. If they persist attempting to question without taking you back to your cell after request, you can not only formally complain (which most police stations are actually scared of, because it can directly impact funding, especially if media catch wind), but you can sue them for it, different names in different places but refusing to let you in your cell can be considered cruel/failure of a duty of care, and literally no police station wants that.
They sure as hell can't do 'whatever they want', you say it like they can chain you up and beat you and you have no legal standing.
Yeah, weird how he asked for a lawyer and the cop kept talking. What part of "I want a lawyer" was ambiguous? Jeff's mistake was saying anything other than "I want a lawyer" over and over again
Actually if you're detained, you're not free to go. You're not under arrest, but the police have a right to question you and confirm your identity if they have some reasonable suspicion that you've committed a crime. If you try to walk away while you're being detained you'll get arrested for sure, and even if you really weren't doing anything wrong beforehand you've just committed a legitimate crime. One thing to consider though is that not every time the police talk to you is legally considered a detainment so you should ask if you're being detained if an opp tries to talk to you. If they say no, then you are perfectly fine to walk away.
@Taylor yeah the case is toast but you still suffer waiting on bail pretrial etc
i won my last case due to improper police conduct but still they robbed me of my rolex, 10Gs went missing and other jewellery. And i still had to pay my lawyer 30,000 and couodnt see my coaccused my wife for over a year.
If your hungry. They'll run out and get ya food if they think they can get a confession. Might as well get a good meal especially if you don't know if you'll get another one like it. As soon as they realized he stood firm. They made him toss that coke out.
@Andrew Apel look nothing help coming off junk not a coke not a fucking butterfinger what ever they are no doubt we call em something else so your saying sugar help withdrawals ? ok not been though that shit sice ma teen in early 90,s in the jail over er ,you might be right if our body have EVOLVED lol
@keoizcheuw translation: Look, nothing helps coming off of junk. Not a Coke, not a butterfinger, or whatever they are. We call them something else. So you’re saying that sugar helps with withdrawals? Ok, I haven’t been through that shit since my teen years in the early 90’s, even been in jail over them. You might be right (about the sugar helping with withdrawals) if your body has evolved lol
@Kimberly Marshall All the time = more than zero, and more times than should ever happen. Also, innocent people don't have to get convicted to be harassed, police have weaponized the process, the thousands of dollars needed to defend yourself and stress endured while doing so. There's a great and popular video on YT entitled "Don't talk to the police". Law Professor James Duane makes the case much better than I can, check it out.
@Kimberly Marshall I exaggerated, bad use of hyperbole, didn't mean to throw anyone off, I'll be more careful next time. I used to have your position, was pretty sure a middle ground existed where being cooperative showed good faith and a willingness to work out the issue. His video and many others of interactions with cops has changed my mind. I think more times than not, saying nothing, or bare minimum, is the better strategy. Either way, hope I never have to personally decide. Cheers!
@Kimberly Marshall Its actually a commonly known fact that you shouldnt talk to the cops; anything you say can be used to incriminate you, but nothing you say can exonerate. Just search on youtube for "Why you shouldnt talk to the police" and youll find several videos from lawyers and doctors at law explaining the concept.
@deesine "All the time = more then zero" lmao what. Don't get me wrong it REALLY sucks when innocent people are taken to jail, but saying this happens all the time is just insane. With how much crimes that are committed every day there's bond to be a few people in the wrong place at the wrong time. No matter how good your legal system is that number will always be more then zero.
@Kimberly Marshall There are attorneys out there that advocate for innocent people to keep their mouths shut. Invoke the 5th Amendment if you are an American and get yourself an attorney. The cops are out for convictions.
@Kimberly Marshall Your position assumes the intent of investigators is to find truth, not guilt. When looking for guilt people are predisposed to see it where it doesn't exist. Even when telling the truth people are notoriously inconsistent. We sometimes recollect things differently, leave out a detail by mistake, or include information that isn't even relevant. This, and more, serves to muddy the waters.
Getting an attorney in the very beginning is an effort to keep things from escalating to the point of a trial. An innocent person who gets an attorney right away isn't thinking "I need an attorney for my trial." Instead, the thought is "I am innocent and don't want the cops to mistakenly believe I am guilty."
You can see in these videos that cops often use methods that induce stress, fatigue, and anxiety. These methods inevitably lead to innocent people giving off the wrong "vibe" during interviews.
Play it safe, as many attorneys advocate, and hire an attorney as soon as cops want to start questioning you. The number of innocent people behind bars is astounding.
@Kimberly Marshall "Cool. Can you name some of these innocent people behind bars, and most importantly, how you know they're innocent?"
- Why do you assume there are no innocent people behind bars? There are news stories, consistently, that feature a person that was wrongfully accused and imprisoned.
"By saying cops look for guilt and not truth, you're saying they're happy to lock anyone up for the crime!"
- No, what I am saying is that they are looking for evidence that could imply guilt. Their job is to collect evidence and build a case. Even innocent people can unwittingly provide evidence that makes them look innocent.
"Never mind the compensation you'd have to pay or the pension you'd lose! Nahhh, just lock anyone up. That'll do! Case closed! Now for some Candy Crush!"
- So, in your view, corrupt cops don't exist? What about negligent ones? How about cops that try to do what is right, but make mistakes along the way?
"Of course attorneys advocate hiring attorneys! You've fallen for the oldest trick in the book! You need me, therefore hire me, or you'll regret it!"
- Yes, there is no possible way it could just simply be a good idea or good advice. The nasty, mean-spirited attorneys are only out for themselves. Meanwhile, all cops are angels that never make mistakes. Right? (Cheeky, I know, but you opened up that can of worms yourself.)
@Kimberly Marshall It might benefit you to learn about the case of Michael Dickson. He was believed to be guilty by multiple investigators. It just so happened they were entirely mistaken, because he was entirely innocent.
@Kimberly Marshall "Please try to confine your thoughts to one comment. It gets real messy otherwise. You also don't need to quote me back. I remember what I said."
- I sent you two replies because I had the thought and care to double check the name of the man whose case I was referring you to.
- I include quotes for your convenience, as well as mine. I will do it as long as it benefits me, and I alone determine whether or not it does.
"There's a reason the first three letters of "assume" are as they are, because assuming makes an "ass" out of the assumer. I prefer facts and logic."
- You assume you don't need an attorney as long as you are innocent. You assume this despite evidence to the contrary. This evidence is provided by attorneys that advise against talking to cops without an attorney. The evidence is also provided by cops and ex-cops that advise having an attorney when talking to cops. Further, this evidence is provided by the fact there are ANY innocent people behind bars.
"But you said there are an "astounding amount" of them. I want to know how you know that."
- You should first determine what I define to be an astounding amount. :)
I didn't read any further into your comment. What I have read of it so far, coupled with your attitude in previous replies, lends me to believe you aren't worth further effort on my part. I hope one day you come to value the insights and positions of others just a bit higher, at least high enough to refrain from being an ass. Cheers!
@Shinkajo i get the feeling they are naive tbh, she thinks attorneys are the only sharks in the process when really, there is a reason cops get so sticky when people ask for a lawyer
@The Opiner cops will literally abuse people who plead the 5th. they can and will take away things or access to basic human needs to force a confession.
A lawyer once gave me this advice, and,though I never thought I'd be in that kind of situation, I filed the information away. Needless to say, I ended up in a situation that would have ended up much differently had I spoken with the police. NEVER SPEAK TO THE POLICE! ALWAYS ASK FOR A LAWYER.
You should not talk to the cops, because they are simply not the people you need to convince that you are innocent. The cops are trying to build a case, and gathering evidence to build that case is their job.
The place where you defend yourself is the court room, and the person you discuss your defense with is your lawyer. It's not a cop's job to defend you from prosection so there is no point trying to convince them of your innocence.
It's so sad that this is necessary, but that's just how the cookie crumbles...
@Funny Stuff Corp The point is that all too often they put their career and getting promoted ahead of finding the truth, so innocent people get railroaded and sent to prison. It doesn't benefit you one bit to trust the police and help them in their investigation, not when you are the target of that investigation -- hence say nothing. The police never let people go because they talked and convinced the police of their innocence.
@deesine you re right. Innocent people get convicted often, especially if they,like Jeff, had been through the system and had previous convictions. It is always the safest not to talk to police because everything you say can and usually is used against you.
If I'm not mistaken - because he had not acknowledged his rights when he told the story, but rather after the fact, the officer would be completely unable to use his statement in court. If Jeff did that on purpose, he's much more intelligent than he already let on.
@Liz Joy this is a common myth. Police do not have to read you your rights at all and anything you say can and will be used against you either way. The exceptions are things like coerced confessions. Stating facts or having a conversation isn’t a confession though. Confession is “I’m guilty” along those lines. And the miranda rights only apply to that if the person is coerced and even that depends on individual state statutes, jurisdiction-by-jurisdiction. If the police simply ask you a question and you voluntarily answer it, you’re darn tootin’ there’s no miranda violation.
An example of there being a miranda violation would be if they didn’t read Jeff his rights and said “if you just tell us you did it we’ll let you go with a warning” and Jeff said “fine, I did it” and then the police say “can you tell us where the bag of money is” and Jeff says “it’s in the trunk in my closet.” That would be a clear violation of miranda rights and neither the confession nor the discovery of money would be admissible. However, if they read his rights first, there’d be no violation, police could let Jeff go, get the money, and rearrest him using the evidence. Or if instead of coercing him they just said, “what’d you do” and he voluntarily answered, miranda rights are not necessary.
Jeff destroyed that cop on the Miranda Rights by accepting the can of coke TWICE as “co-ersion” for him to speak, and then even though the video was edited, Jeff says at the end “How about that Butterfinger you promised me?” And the cop saying “No, you didn’t give me what I wanted.” And completely destroyed Miranda again by admitting that Jeff was under coercion to testify against himself for a “Butterfinger” He is every lawyers dream client to defend, even Saul could get Jeff off the hook and probably a job afterwards.
@SID There is no court in the universe that would consider the goddamn coke a coercion. The police would say it's hospitality since they kept him in a room for 3 hours waiting and it's standard procedure anyways. They will always offer a drink to someone under interrogation because that helps them establish a bond and create common ground to help facilitate a confession.
@Monkey006 it SHOULD be, I agree with you 100% but nobody takes facts into consideration that's why Kyle Rittenhouse got off. People cared more about what it would mean for their own personal murder machines than justice. It's always about what the court or the wealthy or the victim can get from it. Justice is not a part of our criminal justice system
@Chase Webster Pretty interesting, what is the situation for Miranda rights to someone who is a deaf, blind person who cannot read or write, does not know ASL or braille and essentially wouldn't not be able to understand: (1) in written form, (2) via lipreading, or (3) in sign language?
Hypothetically speaking, say before the suspect was apprehended and some incident impaired their vision and hearing
Jeff is very smart, didn’t talk to the police, wanted to talk with his lawyer right away, he knew from the very start that the cops weren’t helping him at all.
@MangledWomb85 Dude many really smart people had fucking horrible lives purely because of bad luck. It doesn't matter how smart you are if you just get dealt shit cards, this might actually be the best anyone could do with what this guy was dealt. Point is we don't know the circumstances, he could have done all the right choices and still end up there.
@kingpest13 Sure, I'm not saying addicts can't get clean, I am just saying being an addict doesn't mean you are dumb and although most people think, in his situation they would do better, they probably wouldn't.
@Blueberry Jelly yeah you know what, you're right. Having watched the full interview I actually liked this guy a lot and I can see he's smart too. We can all take the wrong path in life no matter how good we've got it. I take back my original comment, I judged too quickly. Maybe I just get pissy about the whole addict thing due to having problems with those types of people in my life and they're hard work and have caused a lot of pain but I don't hate them by any means. Just people who lost their way in life I guess. But dealing with them isn't fun that's all.
James Knik2020-09-20 05:13:24 (edited 2020-09-21 00:21:12 )
kingpest13 getting off dope has almost nothing to do with how smart you are. When getting off drugs your going against the most primitive part of your brain
@MangledWomb85 You're alright CharlesLeeRay. And although I never quite reached the greatest of Jeff, I was that guy, causing trouble and creating calamity for innocent people around me, and doing stupid things. Although things are better now and all that is in the past, and I do have a level of understanding that many of these people aren't inherently bad people, I still struggle with patience in regards to dealing with them. It's very frustrating, to say the least.
@Vic Jang yeah I know man. If you read the comments you'll see I took back what I said and admitted I judged the guy too quickly. That'll teach me lol.
kingpest13 Heroin addiction will always be there though, always inches from relapse. And that addiction can lead you to throw away everything. A family member of mine had it forced on him at a party. He was a filmmaker, and a damn good one, but his life went from his love of filmmaking to his horrid addiction. He’s getting clean, but is trying to fix his life, and getting clean from heroin, can kill you without medical help. Luckily he has continued to keep clean but he has told me that he is still wants it, but he is pushing for his life,
@Ondřej Javůrek this is purely false. Intelligent people are not addicted to narcotics. Intelligent people fight out of their shit starts rather than complacently accepting it...
@Andrew McAllister So none of these is an intelligent person?! Charles Dickens - opium Ernest Hemingway - alcohol Thomas Edison - cocaine Vincent van Gogh - alcohol Sigmund Freud - morphine Stephen King - cocaine, Xanax, Valium
@Ondřej Javůrek I would say no. Freud is largely considered to be an idiot by modern psychologists, edison was rich person who bought inventions from others and claimed them as his own and the rest are artists.
@Andrew McAllister Ok so, I disagree with artists not being intelligent, especially with writers, but lets ignore that. Most psychologists might disagree with Freud on many things but he essentially created their field, and saying he wasnt intelligent is just nonsense. Edison was in my opinion intelligent but ok we disagree. How about Benjamin Franklin - opiate and alcohol mixture
Paul Erdös (mathematician) — Amphetamines
Samuel Colt – Nitrous
Bill Gates - ketamine
???
@Mister Ee No, ad hominem is about attacking the arguer not the argument. I literally didn't do that a single time.... Learn what you're talking about before you speak...
@Ondřej Javůrek the founding fathers used drugs, there is no formal evidence for any sort of addiction. Many people take painkillers and aren't addicted to them. Ben Franklin does not apply to the argument.
Literally the first source about paul erdos says he wasn't addicted to drugs.... He took them. You seem to me mixing up the ideas of addiction and drug use. Not all people who take drugs are drug addicts... I imagine most of the others follow suit.
@Andrew McAllister Look we can't really judge if they were addicted or not because the only way to decide this would be taking the drug away and watching the effect on them, but I am ok with assuming you are correct because I dint research into their addiction any more than googling a list of people who according to the websites I found were addicted. However this still doesn't mean addicts can't be intelligent, lets consider these two fictional characters, Sherlock Holmes and Greg House, they are both very tormented, intelligent people who turn to drugs to num their emotional/physical pain, and both get addicted. Although these are fictional characters they draw inspiration from the reality that intelligent people are depressed more often, because of this they also take drugs often to ease their pain, and in my opinion intelligent people can definitely get addicted to drugs just like anyone else. Now when they get addicted they might be better suited to getting rid of this addiction and although I am not sure of that, that's not the discussion we were having here, we were talking about intelligent people not being addicts, so where do we disagree?
@MangledWomb85 I was talking about the custody. It was said that it wasn't his first time being in question therefore he'll have better chances dealing with the police. Plus, he didn't do it.
@Alphanumeric oh haha. Yeah he knows the system for sure, Jeff has been around the block a few times. But yeah I guess it helps when you're also innocent lol.
@dereksjourney anyway I've been through this with a few others in these comments which you'd know if you read them. We've established that Jeff isn't actually an idiot or a bad person, just a guy with an addiction who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. So, I'm done with this comment section. But I will probably watch this video again because it was interesting.
@kingpest13 Sometimes "keep fighting" means keep banging your head up against a wall. That kind of black and white thinking doesn't always apply. Sometimes you have to take a completely different approach that you might not even KNOW about if you don't have the money and resources to get a good psychotherapist (for example). Life can be way more complicated than the simple black and white thinking that people tend to resort to. What if he's somebody who's gene presentation or gene expression causes a little too much cortisol to be present naturally. Meaning greater susceptibility to stressors. Then, what if he has a alcoholic father who is horribly abusive to the children and the mother too maybe. That combination is a guaranteed formula for PTSD. Which is a form of mental and physical illness. It literally causes brain damage. So now, what was that business about "oh yeah, lots of people have it real rough and go on and make a success out of themselves, blah blah blah, ad nauseam"? People usually don't have a clue how complicated these things can get. Mostly because they don't want to be bothered to think. Or else they're projecting their own self-hate onto the other person, and hating them.
@kingpest13 It takes not just stamina, but support, being centered, and money. If you're on dope because you're already weak-willed, good luck. If you're all over the place, good luck. If you got not a damn soul giving you a hand then good goddamn luck and if you're an addict and about to go to jail you ain't got cash.
It's easy to simplify this as, "Well a lot more people can do it." Yeah pal, and there are plenty of amputees that have gotten limb transplants, and thousands more who never will becauze their physiology won't support it.
Not talking to the police is not smart the smart thing is to collaborate specially is usa becuase they be asking you questions they already know the answer for and they use strategies to let you talk
It’s funny how everyone in this thread moved on from the actual ex addict in this chat criticizing this guy “Jeff” because everyone decided to act like redditors and try to feel soft for a criminal. The police are no one anyone wants to talk to more than they have to, but what’s with so many people on the internet with these argumentative crushes on random criminals? Makes me feel like none of you have dealt with addicts, thieves, and hardened criminals, a lot of you guys argue for 10+ comments for a charismatic criminal I hope you’re never on jury duty if you’re that quick to let you defenses down on a person because they “seem nice”
Ever since I was a sweet little girl from a great family with decent money, I always idolized the bad guys and wanted to be one every time I watched a movie.
"I just came here to get a coke" "How about that butterfinger you promised me?" Junkie, robber, whatever, this guy doesnt give a shit, he just wants his damn snacks
@3Clod I'm not sure who's bragging. I'm stating facts. I am a recovering addict and while detoxing addicts crave sugar. Where's the bragging coming in, I'm lost lil buddy. I guess the true comment is that what I said is nothing to troll about. But I'm sure you're living in your mom's basement with no gd, all alone and bored so you troll for attention. I get it. Well, I just gave you two minutes worth attention so don't worry, friend... Someone sees you. You're relevant. Anyways, have a good day and try not to go blind down there in your mom's basement
@Lee 14 read back, he said he does drugs on a daily basis, uncaring if some kid might read and take example. When I pointed that out he said "oh but I'm quitting obviously" and it's not obvious. Jumkies hurt their own families, I'd shut up and clean myself if I were him. I know my parents would roll in their graves if they discovered I do drugs (he said I live in my mom's house not even knowing if she's even still alive or how old I am, just supposing in his self importance).
They should have stopped questioning him immediately after he said “I want a lawyer.” Anything he said after that point with coercion from police is inadmissible in a court of law.
He's just using his right to be silent. Oh by the way nothing is legal to do with anyone who needs their chemical balance. Not supplying his needs is human rights violation.
@Jeremiah Johnson literally !! that was my first time hearing it and i seriously got chills ... like this is what you were listening to ... when shooting at people ...???
@anulichanel Exactly, I was genuinely creeped out. It makes you think about how comfortable he was when he did it. That and that dumbass cellphone video.
This is kind of neat - I’m a longtime JCS fan who thinks their content has kind of gone downhill. A lot of their earliest videos have been taken off the channel for some reason (might have been copyright strikes? The old intro music was a bop remix of “sh-boom”)
But do you see what I mean? The older videos have a lot of interrogation techniques, described in detail. The new stuff seems more focussed on major headline cases and “justice porn” style hot takes, like commenting on the suspect’s personality or how they “are getting what they deserve.” Or, in this case, making jokes about Jeff working for Coca Cola. They don’t even call the “mutt and jeff” technique by the name interrogators use, instead calling it “good cop bad cop” which is how it’s popularly known by the public.
They also used to do bonus videos about prison life, including an interesting one called “the lifer perspective” where they interviewed people serving life without parole. I just think the channel was way more interesting, it seems to have realized that there’s more money in dramatizing headline grabbing True Crime and given up on their more informational video formats
Glad to see a new set of viewers are going back and watching the older content!
Bro I sent one of these to my friends and she said she's been binge watching this channel I said I started with the crazy episode she said me too. Like they must have bought a space on YouTube or something
This channel is a gem in the rabbit hole of YouTube. I was half hoping they wouldn’t get to successful so they wouldn’t lessen the quality of future videos. So far they have hit it out of the park every time.
Dude im so with you lol, i watched the same video and havent stopped since 😂 it popped up on my youtube, girlfriends, and best friends on the same day lol, we all had no clue we knew about the same video until i broght it up 😂😂😂 crazy how life works
Ya same here,it seems like everyone has seen that video I keep seeing it on my insta feed and its wild I wouldn't expect something like that to actually blow up like it has..
I've been watching this channels videos for some time, glad they've gone viral and gotten the recognition they deserve! They do some incredibly fantastic work
ya! I watched that one yesterday! Check out "The Wrath of Jodi" ... I think it's called that. It's much longer but it is worth it. It's quite absurd the shit people do..
You never know where a YouTube wormhole will lead...I’m here watching my G Jeff and notice this absolutely angelic face in the comments 😍😍 now I gotta check out your channel and figure out my game plan 😘
The amount of self awareness that Jeff has in regards to his issues, the acceptance of who he is, the despair that comes with it. Yup, I relate to him, JCS.
This is police abuse. He asked for a lawyer - where is the lawyer? He admitted to being a heroine user and any cop who knows anything can see he has already entered withdraw - but the cop still hammers away. It makes no difference whether Jeff is innocent or guilty - he deserves to be treated humanely.
My brother is a heroine addict. Has been my entire adult life (18 yrs). He’s been off and on methadone and suboxone. I’ve heard horror stories of the way he gets treated when he goes to jail. I’m not saying whatever he did to go to jail is ok. But it usually drug related or something not so severe. I feel that heroine especially should be treated fairly for inmates to AT LEAST be able to taper off while in jail from suboxone or methadone. Not be forced to go throw painful withdrawal with bright lights etc etc. I’m talking about minor crimes, like drug possession, not prison or felonies that involve hurting ppl in any way.
I find it so weird how when they know they’re interrogating a serial killer and they have evidence, they are nicer than they’re to innocent people. Wtf ??
@Luciana Holmes One thing you learn when you watch more of these is they're information gathering. You think they're your best friend, and meanwhile they're trying to find out a motive to give court an open and shut case. (E.g. He resented his mother) A lot of the times these are serious cases which is hard to fully grasp. These are traumatic times for ordinary people, and in my opinion it helps to have 'order' /structure in the way of police.
@Luciana Holmes When you know someone is guilty you usually have eveidence of at least a good part of the Who, What, Where, When, and How. You don't want those. You want the WHY. WHY did they do it? WHY were they motivated to do it? So, you want to get them talking and comfortable enough to feel a sort of trust. Now if someone is still presumed innocent (as all shall be in the US) but is being questioned then they are usually still trying to figure out the Who What Where etc... Thats WHY (hehe see what I did there) they are more rough. They just want to force out the info. The facts. Data is what they are after.
Different locations have different time periods in regards to this. They can still go in after x amount of time (specific amount of time depending on location), reread rights, and try again BUT they still have to honor the right to an attorney. But in between getting an attorney and the suspect talking with them, they can still legally go back in and start over! These interrogators were well within their rights (as long as they did get an attorney and followed their local laws regarding interrogations).
There are specific laws regarding interrogations that must be followed.. whether or not they are followed is what can make or break a case. It’s honestly in interrogators best interest to follow the law. In certain circumstances, the whole case can be thrown out if it’s found due process wasn’t followed (such as unethical tactics, not getting an attorney when it was requested, etc).
This is why it is SO important for people to know their rights and what is allowed and what’s not.
@bigboymatthew How in the world did that make any sense in your brain? He should have received the methadone, but he got two cans of fuckin soda instead, so that's good? Lol what???
As a former junkie myself. It’s literally comparable to cruel and unusual punishment to leave someone going through withdrawals SITTING IN A ROOM for 5 hours. They’re lucky he didn’t start puking on them, crapping himself. Poor Jeff lol.
Those cokes help alot lol they still won't get rid of the pain or that foggy feeling but it'll settle your stomach for a little while probably the only reason he didn't puke
I went through withdrawal from mood stabilizer and anti depressant and I will tell you going through that, if I had to sit for 5 hours. For one I wouldn't be able to sit and for two I'd be hysterical. Like, withdrawal makes you want to diiiieeeeeeeee. Eventually my doctor put me back when after a week I didn't recover from the detoxing.
@Peero N sugar actually helped me for all of 5 minutes then I wanted more. I guess what the opiates can do is mess with the way our bodies process sugar lol. The RLS. The being tired but not sleeping. Never again lol.
@Lauren Murray yeah thats the worst.. tired af fuck but cant lay still, it feels a little like a burn inside until i move for me.. hope you doing good :)
@Kimber Dayton I mean they just antes to question him…so he’s where he’s supposed to be..but putting someone who is actively in withdrawal in a tiny room, ALONE, nothing but a soda like you clearly don’t get what I meant cause you’ve never been through it but that’s the worst even having someone to talk to or something to do like read ANYTHING. But sitting in a box with nothing to do with all the anxiety and mental torture not to mention the physical that comes next. Just cruel.
It IS cruel and unusual as someone who has withdrawn from heroin in a freezing tiny concrete and metal cell minimum 5 times, I quite literally have ptsd from it. You physically and mentally and emptiness could not torture someone all 3 ways at the same time more. I've given birth, been smacked off my bike by an suv then parked on by it, been in a 4 wheeling accident where I was pinned under a 2000 lb side by side by my shattered elbow, had covid and post covid pneumonia, and I would do ALL OF THEM AGAIN, not just one, all again, before I would choose to withdraw in jail again. They don't do shit to help you, they know you're coming off dangerous drugs like benzos, alcohol, and heroin all at once, they do not care. You see ppl seize in jail all the time, crack their heads going down, they do NOT get taken to a hospital. I seized once, woke up to being dragged down a hallway by my foot because I was "faking it" while the 4 officers laughed at me and the me in a cell, alone, in the middle of winter, withdrawing (if you Don't know that means you could be on the surface of the damn sun and still be cold) in front of the door that the officers were going in and out of in 35° f weather. I hate cops, I've NEVER had one help me, never, even when i wasn't an addict, they did NOTHING when I got drugged and raped but give me a DUI for driving under the influence of the DATE RAPE DRUG. Said I took it myself.
Don't talk to the cops. If they interview you, it means they don't know something, they won't even respond to an entire cell of women screaming that someone is seizing or beating their head on the wall if it doesn't help them.
You aren't safe in jail than on the street, my parents firmly believed that but jail is the only place I've had a seizure, been jumped, gotten in multiple fist fights from random meth heads losing their minds, they don't get you help for your addiction, they don't have programs, they don't make sure you don't die, they don't care. If the only reason you leave your kid in jail instead of, for example, going and getting YOUR KIDS OWN MONEY to bail themselves out, is because you think their safer in jail and will get help (my family did this to me multiple times) they won't get help, they aren't safe, and the relapse rate from jail is almost 100% because of it, and that's when ppl really die because they haven't had drugs for a little while, they're desperate for the pain to stop, they do too much and OD because their tolerance had plummeted. NOW you have a dead kid.
We need to stop the war on drugs. It hasn't changed drug use ONE BUT since it started, check the stats. Drug addicts are used to fill our massive incarceration nation, they need ppl to fill all these private prisons, they have zero vested interest in getting people clean. All research shows that treatment is where funds should go. Not incarceration. This applies to many other crimes too but right now we're talking about drugs. It's a PUBLIC health issue, not a justice system issue. Addicts need help, support, they desperately need to be destigmatized so that they don't lose every person in their lives because the stigma is that addicts are gross, bad ppl who need their lives ones to cut them off, not just from money which is totally ok, but from love, from emotional support, from providing help when the addict is ready, not just cutting them out from everything and everyone they love "until they're better" because with a reason to live, people to love and be loved by, support of some kind, WHY GET CLEAN? It's all you have. The people you use with, good or bad, are all you have. Your string out significant other is the only person in the planet who doesn't look at you like trash, no matter how bad the relationship might be.
1. Drug war has failed 2. Incarceration Nation must end 3. Destigmatization must occur 4. Addicts need support 5. Treatment is the only way 6. Addicts are ppl too, and many people are one accident, one party night getting too drunk to make a wise choice, one misstep away from being the same way. 6. Other addictions are bad, some just as bad, but because they aren't stigmatized they are allowed to remain in society, keep their jobs, keep their family in their lives... but your just the same.
When you’re detoxing off heroin all you want to be is alone. I didn’t leave my room at rehab for 5 days except when they made me go for mealtimes after day 3. You can’t think about anything except for withdrawal so the last thing on your mind is wanting to interact socially with people.
@Emily McGuckin 😂😂 I am girl thanks ❤️❤️ my name is very common. That’s why I don’t have to hide it on YT. I could be anyone. I could be your best friend 😂🤷♀️
@Aris Ven those are WORSE!’ Or people like coming off methadone. I wouldn’t be sitting still either. People hallucinate . Honestly this is the equivalent of torture for an addict 5 hours in a tiny spot like this .
@missalexx key thing for YOU: AT REHAB. lol. Did you ever detox without meds ? I’m not laughing at you but the comparison to being in jail and rehab detoxing is incompatible and I don’t know your story or how long you were on the sh*t for and im not even saying this guy wanted to talk to anyone but read the long comment like 5 comments up . People would generally rather do ANYTHING , experience ANYTHING other than detoxing without meds in jail . It’s torture.
Also your comment kind of irks me. Your coming across like you feel some sort of entitlement because you have detoxed in jail without meds so it makes you better than the people that have done it in rehab with meds. There were always people that had attitudes like yours in the rooms so that’s why I stopped going. It doesn’t matter how people got clean. You should just be happy and grateful that they are.
Yeah heroin withdrawal cold turkey is literal hell. I’ve gone through it so many times and it hurts really bad. Like the worst flu type pain along with emotional pain. True hell. I’d rather use b till i fall then go through more withdrawal
@missalexx no one said "it makes you better" your projecting weird insecurities about your own past with addiction. It's called imposter syndrome. It's okay, I understand and have those feelings often. No one is invalidating you except for yourself friend :)
@missalexx there just isn't an argument, rehab will always be a more supportive environment than jail. This seems obvious so what's the point of insisting otherwise.
Spoken like a true non heroin addict. As a heroin addict, you're liable to spend periods of your life where you may be in withdrawal for days sometimes. Its just part of the reality of being a junkie. If it isn't the cops playing with your addiction, it can easily be some psychopath criminal that sells dope.
I’m sorry but can you read? I said “she is coming across like” I never said she literally said that. Also you’re not my friend and you don’t know me :)
I’m not arguing that rehab is more helpful than jail, it’s pretty obvious which is more helpful. I’m arguing that this chick thinks that because she went through detox in jail she deserves some medal than people that did it through rehab. Because from all her comments that’s pretty much what she has been implying.
I feel so lucky I never had physical withdrawals from heroin. Mine were all mental, I was damn near psychotic. Ive never had physical withdrawals from anything I quit, caffeine as well. Kind of odd.
@Ryan that’s interesting. Did you only use for a short time period? HONESTLY I could do all the puking in the world but the mental/anxiety NEVER AGAIN.
@Lauren Murray I probably used over the course of 5 or 6 years total. Quit a couple of times for a month or so before relapsing. The most I ever did was a bit over a half of a gram a day which is pretty tame compared to other people I knew. I dont know how I never let myself do enough to get full on physically addicted. It might help that I mostly sniffed it so it would last longer(not sure if it works that way, but who knows).
@Lauren Murray Buy yeah, looking back, my already bad mental health was made significantly worse from coming off of heroin. I can totally understand the mental anxiety part.
If you generalize those common characteristics of guilt or innocence you would find yourself with a lot of false accusations. People who are innocent often get defensive and assert their story confidently.
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@God Of Spaghett I agree with your first statement but the second sentence shows that you clearly completely misunderstood/misread the OP's comment. They were saying that innocent people do "get defensive and assert their story confidently".
Not sure about Jeff being completely innocent. He got into a defensive stance as soon as the police asked him about his friend's gun. He might not be completely involved but he might know some stuff that he's not telling. But he was smart throughout the interrogation, probably had a lot of experience in similar situations with the police. Smart enough be released without having any charges brought on him.
@Cheeseburger Inparadise Being a "thug" or an addict doesn't mean they don't tell the truth once in a while. And it doesn't mean they rob every single place you accuse them of.
incase one person watching doesn’t know. heroin withdrawl is terrible. and knowing you are gonna be locked in a cold cell while going thru it is a terrifying thought.
I feel like people more like him because he said he wasn't gonna talk to them, but they kept trying, which I think we all can agree is shitty. Like, after he said he wasn't gonna say anything and asked for a lawyer, they shouldn't be able to keep trying. At all.
@ObiWAANKenobi 44 No someone said that Ellen is now Elliott.. so I'm saying that she didn't just change her name.. she changed her name because she's a he now. Just to clarify
@The Besties just get really sick for hours feel like I'm gonna die and keep throwing up and dry heaving. Get real thirsty but can't drink because I just throw up and start sweating profusely
@The Besties years ago took a percaset and was sick over 8 hours and I was really healthy and exercising a ton at the time. I always worry they might give it to me by accident if I was ever in the hospital
@Derek Staroba Sorry, I just saw your other comment. So it's actually not that uncommon for your first time taking an opiate to make you repeatedly vomit. Some are way more sensitive than others though. It doesn't necessarily mean you're allergic. Which may be a good thing for you if you're ever in an emergency. Often if the person hasn't had opiates, but need for a surgery, they'll give them anti nausea meds with it. I have known people when they started taking oxycontin, or whatever you know, they barf nonstop from it, but yet still like the feeling, so they come back. Eventually they get addicted. Even in addicts, some get used to it, but some still puke.
@The Besties I've tried it several times believe me it's not a good feeling I think u are mistaken it feels like I'm dying I've had a lot of people try to tell me otherwise and even have people get literally angry and frustrated over the fact that I don't get "hi" I also observed others and what it happens when they take it like "nodding off" and it looks very bad to me and yes I would say evil but I digress
@martin kerr I've known 3 in my life (I'm not from the US) All three were born intersex.. I believe they wait to a certain age to see which gender is more dominant. All three started as females and turned into males at the age of 19. 2 of them over the years became males with beards and wide frames. 1 still looked like a female, her voice didn't change, but the doctors still decided to keep her a male because of the male genitalia. But I believe you're talking about people who decide to change because they want to, not their actual bodies deciding this.
@Derek Staroba its not allergy dude , the first time you try heroin /morphine etc , throwing up is absolutely normal, you vomit a lot. People really allergic to opioids fall into coma
@Derek Staroba while there are some forms of drug withdrawals that can kill you (such as withdrawals from alcohol, benzos, barbiturates, etc), opioid withdrawal very rarely does, except in prisons where people don't treat it and effectively kill folk through dehydration (from sweating, puking, and diarrhea). The fact that it very rarely kills you also doesn't detract from how unbelievably hellish of an experience it can be (it's often described as a flu but that's really only qualitatively speaking. It goes far beyond the realm of imagination for the average folk), and it's gonna be especially bad when you've been abusing an opioid like heroin and for so many years. The fact that that man had to spend so many hours there must've been horrible as straight faced as he may have been.
Jeff without a doubt is an addict but you can tell that he is not responsible what the fuck happens here based on his tone of voice and his natural badass manner
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Grant H2021-06-02 18:30:40 (edited 2021-06-02 18:31:01 )
You can be detained and not free to go but not under arrest. But yeah as a general rule that is good. If you are detained don't talk to cops. Everything can and will be used against you. Not to help you
@Evexin you no nothing so why say probly haha. If someone request a lawyer there menna get 1 straight away it’s best to always get legal advice before u say ANyTHInG
@Danny Tourigny they do. But an example might be a traffic ticket. You aren't under arrest but you can't leave. But you also don't have to say anything. You just need to provide license registration and insurance but you don't have to say anything
@Kier TiVi this right here is why the world is going to shit Stop judging a book by it’s cover He is an armed robber How exactly do you expect an armed robber to respond?
@Grant H they need to come up with a term that describes being "detained" and NOT free to go. I don't think there is one. Or, it was supposed to be "detained," but then they perverted it and no one said anything lol
I can't stress this enough absolutely never talk to the cops when you're picked up for shit like this. Even if you're completely innocent, sadly their motive is to send you to jail. Because once they get key information that they could mold to make it look like you did it that's all they're looking for.
What kind of idiot helps police investigate themselves? Any lawyer worth their salt will tell you you never under any circumstance talk to police. Anything you say can and will be held against you but it will never be used in your favor.
Memorize these words: “I don’t answer questions”, and my personal favorite- “I decline to comment on any questions, but out of respect I am handing you my lawyers card.” After that you DONT SAY ANOTHER DAMN WORD!
I’d bet my entire net worth that that guy does not work for Coke at their headquarters in their marketing division. Living in Atlanta, I see their job postings pop up and it’s ridiculous. It’s like entry level job - PHD in astrophysics required.
I have a hard time believing a dude that was was strung out for nearly two decades got hired on. Not saying it’s not possible to turn your life around, I just highly doubt he went from drug addict with multiple felonies on his record to working for one of the most sought after companies around.
I think you misunderstood. It said his outcome was unknown which implies that him working for coca cola was merely a comedic suggestion or a "legend". Otherwise putting your life savings on it isn't a bad call!
Probably got high right before the robbery (if he did it) typically takes at least 24 hours since last use for withdrawal to hit. He’s not showing any real symptoms here and likely didn’t the entire time he was in jail. Probably got high within an hour of being released and never felt a thing.
@Mr. Ryan with an addition like his, he could of been feeling withdrawals anywhere from 12-16hrs, maybe even less depending on delivery. He definitely felt something, I can tell by his movement. ( ex heroine addict for 8yrs )
@No Mind I’m not too familiar with Methadone, is it the same as Suboxone where if you take it with dope still in your system you go into precipitated withdrawal?
@Mr. Ryan no, methadone is not the same as suboxine. No matter what time you take methadone during a withdrawal it will cease all withdrawl symptoms. But he didn't take methadone, right?
@No Mind nah he didn’t get any but asked for it. I’ve gone into precipitated myself taking subs too early and was thinking this guy was nuts and probably gonna end up sweating like crazy and shitting his pants if he took it, but I guess they’re not the same.
@No Mind keep at it bro. How does weed treat you? Perhaps switching to edibles would be better than kratom. Personally during the time i was on kratom my heart didn't feel right. And i had a thing called SVT happen where your heart starts beating extremely fast (i was 190 bpm when i got to the hospital). Scared tf outta me and helped me stop kratom. I was using mostly maeng da. I'm curious if you've noticed any ill effects with your heart while on kratom?. But i was living with my ex gf and she was really what was keeping me straight at the time. Loved that bitch ahah. Since then been through bouts of heroin use usually not lasting longer than a month (I'm able to force myself to quit because i know how horrible withdrawals will be). Luckily i have access to suboxone illegally. I'm trying to taper off of subs currently. Taking about a half a sub a day. Good luck man, would love to hear back on your experience w/kratom!
@Mr. Ryan do you plan on tapering off of suboxone? I'm down to half a strip daily but it's rough. I don't have a prescription and can't really afford to be paying 10$ a strip, so tapering is a necessity for me rn. I can't work if I'm sick but i need to work so i can't be sick. Lol it sucks. But I'm glad to hear you are doing good bro keep with it! Edit: my insurance doesn't cover suboxone so ive been having to buy it from the street. Which is fkin shitty because I'm probably supporting someone's heroin addiction as they're selling scripts to buy dope.
@Lbot beenthere it's derived from leaves off of a tree in southeast Asia. That tree is part of the coffee/tea family i believe. At small doses it has stimulating effects similar to caffeine. But when you take higher doses (over 5 grams) its reported to have a more opiate-like effect. There's also different strains that produce different effects.
@Lbot beenthere Personally, i used it for work. I have knee problems and was always on my feet. Its very good at dealing with aches and pains even if you are micro-dosing (taking like 1 gram).
@Lbot beenthere Kratom is definitely addictive for some people, but nowhere near as bad as pills or other opiates. If you take too much, you will simply throw up. Get capsules, and order them online from a reputable seller. Or order the powder and make your own capsules (powder is generally higher quality than pre-capsuled kratom but it just depends on your source). If you order the powder alone it is very nasty to chug. I'd advise to stay away from smoke shop kratom, but if you're in a pinch most smoke shops do carry it, but the quality of the powder is actually pretty important. As far as strains go id advise you to do some research into that. The red Thai strains are supposedly good for pain. Get a few different strains and see which works best for you. If you feel any ill effects then another option for you could be CBD oil or edibles.
@squanchy squanch I started off on 12 mg a day just over 2 years ago, reduced to 8mg a day after about a year, and am taking a half of an 8mg strip= 4 mg a day now for several months. My goal is to ultimately not need them at all but my insurance has covered it and allowed me to do it gradually to this point. Along with some type of group therapy ( NA meetings, IOP groups) I recommend suboxone maintenance to any former dope addicts. I wish your healthcare would give you the option to obtain medication I feel is as necessary to an addict as insulin is to a diabetic but the system is mostly broken. I wish you the best friend.
Jewels inSD not for nothing, Jeff isn’t stupid by any means. The proof is in the pudding. The officers did everything in their power to make Jeff incriminate himself, and yet the tactics of these professionals didn’t work on “some junkie scumbag”....they presented him with a game, and he outplayed them. Simple as that. At the very least he has shown that he isn’t stupid.
@Mr. Ryan - If you're shooting heroin, multiple times and grams per day, you can start withdrawal within a few hours. He definitely was going through withdrawal. His nose was running, legs were restless and he was getting anxiety. He wasn't in full blown withdrawal, but they were setting in.
Mr. Ryan I’m on subs after getting addicted to pain pills and being on them for over 10 years from military injuries. They wanted to put me back on perks once I told them of my problem and trying to withdrawal on my own but I said no and said put me on sub. I still get fentanyl for my SI injections every three months and don’t have any side effects. I take my medicine before the procedure as well because I found it helps more than not taking it for a couple days before. Seems not having any side effect is not normal? Been on them for five years now. I thought it would cause me to be sick with the mix but it doesn’t. I do not get any buzz from the fentanyl and it seems to only help a small amount. I can’t smoke or do edibles because I value my CCP to much to give it up.
Nicole so you’re taking subs everyday, but come off them to get fent injections only before procedures? If that’s the case you are 100% going to get sick just from being on subs that long. It’s going to take a lot longer to get sick from not taking subs, then it is any other opiate for the most part. Usually takes about 24-36 hours to really start getting minor w/d from subs, and the real w/d’s don’t kick in until about 36-48 hours, maybe that’s why you don’t feel sick when you stop the subs for a day or two before getting fent injections? I was on subs for 10 years as well almost, and when I went cold turkey I had to take 7 weeks off of work before I got my strength back and the random tired fits went away enough where I could work. I do construction so it was really tough to be able to go back while sick. Getting addicted to pain pills, then doing dope was the worst thing that ever happened to me, but I used kratom to ween down properly so I could still work and not go into a detox. Kratom is a god send and works amazing, and the w/d’s are nowhere near as bad as any opiate or sub...
@squanchy squanch hey buddy, sorry for l8 reply. I have a weird relationship with weed. When I got off kratom before my stint now, I smoked a weed pen and was the dumbest idiot alive, just couldn't think to save my life. I couldn't work like that so I had figure something else out. I started using gabapentin and it worked great. But then i started working a very physical job that was tearing me apart so I started using Bali kratom again for the pain but ended up staying on. I've noticed that kratom from head shops are using crap quality and it does mess with my heart a bit. ( clarity kratom ) is probably your best bet when using head shop kratom but the rest is filler garbage that will mess you up. Also kratom from bulk suppliers is usually a cleaner , better quality kratom that shouldn't mess with your heart. God bless man, stay in touch, stay away from H man. I used to get fentanyl thinking it was H and I've od'd so many times it's a miracle I'm still breathing.
Nicole also having subs in your system before doing any other opiate is not going to get you sick. They are probably giving you fent for your procedures bc they need something really strong to overpower the subs in your brains’ opiate receptors. That’s why u don’t really get a buzz bc they have probably dialed the fent dose in well enough to kill pain but not too much to get you buzzed. But if you went the opposite, and had opiates in your system, and took subs too early, you’d throw yourself into precipitated w/d’s and you’d feel the worst sickness you will ever feel in your life. I only did it once and I wanted to run out into traffic to end it. Worst feeling on earth. Good luck with recovery, shit is a long hard road.... 🙃
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@Nicole sounds like it’s two different doctors that prescribed you subs for your opiate addiction and fentanyl for your sacroiliac. You wouldn’t be effected by the fentanyl shot if on subs but if you took suboxone within 2 days after a shot of fentanyl you would likely end up in precipitated withdrawal. Everybody’s responses to this stuff is different, but I’d recommend you lay of the suboxone following your fentanyl shots.
I feel bad for any person who’s charged with a crime whether falsely accused or not. People don’t commit crimes without reason and many don’t have a choice. Unless it’s something truly heinous and unjustifiable like rape, torture, or serial murder, they’re still just a normal person like you or I and just made a snap decision/mistake, or seemingly had no other choice.
I thought this was going to show the "my name jeff" soundbyte origin. Disappointed.
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He's got a suicide pair of pants and shirt, and he doesn't snitch lol 😂. He is very smart, u always show them ur in control of this and no I am not talking so bring me back to my cell. U don't argue with them and he's right, they don't want to help you and they ant ur friend. Any good lawyer will tell you, never say a word to them because you will only make it harder for him to help you. They want you to say u did it but he knew exactly what you say. I want my lawyer and bring me back to my cell because I don't talk to the police. No they let him go because u can't hold someone without anyone talking and the lawyer told the cops, charge him for the crime or let him go. U can't just hold someone just because u want to, they will get sued. It's no legend behind it, they deal with this everyday. Just some like him and me and others, if they don't have nothing they will tell you exactly what they have and he doesn't have anything and u know they don't because he gave it away. U just have to be a smart azz if ur arrested, if ur under arrest, everybody I know want talk and say if I'm arrested u take me back to my cell. They can't hold you but 12 hours and he knows they don't have nothing. But u don't talk to them because most people will talk their way in prison and u all have seen it. If they would just say if I'm not arrested I'm leaving but take me to the cell if u are because I ant saying nothing, why are you going to do their job, he wants you to give him the evidence and if they interview you like this, they are running out of time, I know the same thing they know and I'm going to wave when I leave, tell me the evidence because you don't have no evidence
Does anybody have any info on the narrator of this piece? He sounds like a guy that worked for The Young Turks and now works for a conservative outlet, and I can't for the life of me recall his name. AND IT'S BUGGIN' ME! I suffer from Bidenitis.
@Jon M ...no.. he was a junkie going through withdrawls, the sugar is all he was looking for, hence the request first for methodone, then for 2 cokes and a butterfinger.
Don't mind these other cats. I thought that was one of the funniest parts of the video. He told him the he had a right to remain silent, and then kept asking him the same question demanding a response. That's either a massive contradiction or a very slow officer.
@TheMengusDew Psychology, the officer did try to be nice, aim for getting a confession, the job is stressful tbh I mean, from here, I could tell it is stressful when your job is to gain information but then the law says this way and the suspect behave like that. Damn.
@Foken Dikhed He did get it. But because he was trying to do his job he didn't break his professionalism. These guys are smart - no way that got past him.
@Stoner gamer He has the right to an attorney, speaking without one present is sacrificing that right. It doesn't mean it's gone permanently just that its gone in that moment. He's trying to manipulate someone into doing something that can only hurt him
how does he prove he understood or explain his consent by not answering the question? they need to know the suspect understood, it's the protocol and it's normal human contact. Then after that, he CAN and HAS THE RIGHT to remain silent.
@Apex Shinøbi showing the example of the Bad Santa movie, which I've never seen, but it looks like the Joker movie borrowed from that movie where the scene where the Santa is in the change room with the midget. The Joker movie really clouded the anti-hero image
Welp, lets discuss "the law". In this case the law is a 1966 United States Supreme Court ruling in Miranda v. Arizona. Being a SCOTUS ruling, it becomes the law of the land, meaning the law in the entire country.
In this ruling they say: "If the individual indicates in any manner, at any time prior to or during questioning, that he wishes to remain silent, the interrogation must cease ... If the individual states that he wants an attorney, the interrogation must cease until an attorney is present. At that time, the individual must have an opportunity to confer with the attorney and to have him present during any subsequent questioning."
Seems to me the law has been clear since 1966. He requested an attorney, there should be no further questions until there is an attorney to represent him during questioning. Any smart attorney would tell the cops to go fuck themselves and prove the charges without the suspects answers.
@clownworld heretic (Myron) it seems the original comment i was responding to has been deleted. The entire context might not be there. But i think the idea of "the law" and the law of the land described the supreme court's role in making things "law" without them actually being "law". In this case the supreme courts decision is binding in the entire country, it is essentially law.
Problematic? Of course, but they're cops so they'll do as much as they can manage to get away with lol. Problematic, absolutely. Shocking? Absolutely not
Our law system and medical system is non-existent. Our medical system in the US is a fucking hustle. Our judicial system is a police state. And it's all owned by our fucked up thugy cartels that love to call themselves "billionaires and millionaires" and their distancing act calling their businesses corporations so they're not legally responsible for any disaster or illegal acts their cartels do. This man should have had a lawyer provided as soon as he stated he didn't want to talk to them. And he was entrapped in given food and drink to entice to talk... this should be illegal unless used for military purposes. Using this for civil criminal courts is very improper... it isn't uncommon to misspeak even in when innocent of a crime. We should have a rehab program for the multitude of drug addicted people that they can be remanded into custody particularly if the use makes them completely unable to make basic reasonable decisions. And not some prison sentence that consigns them to a lifetime of shit jobs and no hope often resulting in more crimes and more drug use.
He admits at one point that he told them he would talk to them for a coke and a butterfinger and then says later that he only told them that so he could get a coke, so I think we're missing some of the picture as well. And to be fair they did read him his rights every time and took his addiction into account.
Im pretty sure he told them he would talk and than they dont need to wait for a lawyer, because it was is own wish to talk. I dont think they could have put him there and tell him to talk with them even tho he wanted a lawyer and if they did i dont think he wouldn´t talk about it on the video. Btw nice hate for no reason on the Cops lol.
@jhnnytsunami1 It actually not illegal to keep asking you questions after you have asked for a lawyer. Your answers probably won't be admissible in court but yeah they can ask you questions. So before you condemn all police, just look up the policies for your State. Not all cops are bad bro
@Paul Pantsoff not sure why you think you know what you're talking about. Go read case law. The 5th amendment violation occurs at the statement's introduction into evidence. Even then it can be used for impeachment purposes and not for its truth. This is complicated stuff
@Forever Raining nah, I love it when the government follows the rules. Personally I think it's abhorrent to push the limits like this, but what they did isn't illegal
It is complete BS. Find an attorney, get their card, and carry it on you.. Memorize the number. Once you get a call, if they haven't given you an attorney already, call the number on the card. Worry about paying that shit off later once you are free to go.
Bobby Brady don’t forget who protects your ass from real criminals or protesters. I don’t live in America so I can’t understand how cops are in that country, but here they do their best and law stands in their way most of the time.
@jhnnytsunami1 Actually I'm not related to any cops I just choose to respect those who are there to protect us and uphold the law. I also choose to believe that not all people are bad and therefore not all cops are bad.
@jhnnytsunami1 I don't have any issues with anyone who wants to peacefully protest and exercise their 1st Amendment rights. "Peacefully" being the operative word there. I do not condone violence, rioting or looting from anyone, regardless if the cause.
No, it’s not problematic because just as he asked for a lawyer, he can also agree to talk without a lawyer. He asked for a lawyer the first time and they let him go. The next sessions, he didn’t mention a lawyer so he evidently offered to talk without one.
Bobby Brady wait for it...you’ve been arrested before...right? 😂😂😂 “The people who scream for barriers to be removed benefit by the removals of barriers!” Want to reduce your interaction with cops? Don’t break the law!! 😂😂😂
jhnnytsunami1 uh, no it’s not illegal to talk to a suspect after they ask for a lawyer IF they agree to talk without one! 😂😂😂 Keep that in mind as you graduate law school.
Remember everything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law . So after they read you your rights say you want a lawyer and keep your mouth shut . Thank me later
No only bc he was telling them he would talk. If they were just going back to his cell and bringing him back in to question him, itd be illegal. That's why they read him his rights each time they brought him in. He admits that he only said he'd talk to get a coke and butterfinger
Former cop here, as long as they read his rights each time they talk, whichever time he signs that he understands his rights and doesn't want a lawyer, that's the one they keep. The rest go in a shredder.
@Wanheda2112 I wish we all lived in Mayberry with Andy Griffith and Barney Fife, but cops don't protect anything where I come from. Making arrests and writing parking tickets doesn't make anyone an upholder of the law. Really, if your job is to arrest people, isn't in your best interest to find ways to arrest people? I know cops, they aren't particularly bright or good people, and they certainly aren't philosophers. You can't live in the United States and claim that the police uphold the law, either in practice or by job description. Sorry, I really am, but I live in the United States and I cannot agree with your uninformed idealism approaching an inaccurate assessment of reality. Much love from bayou country.
Oh cops will do anything to make sure you don't talk to a lawyer, cops will lie to you, they'll tell you that you're gonna go to jail so you might as well confess and all that... DEMAND A LAWYER BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING
@Antonino Bilello I also live in the United States so I don't appreciate you calling me uninformed and idealistic when I see good cops every day. I'm not saying every one is perfect but it's also not fair to say that all cops aren't particularly bright or good people just because you've had encounters with bad cops. Not all people are smart or nice but that doesn't mean everyone's bad does it? I say that yes your experiences inform your views of cops but so do mine. The middle ground is what matters and that is that not all cops are bad, I hope we can at least agree on that.
@Wanheda2112 I never said I hadn't met helpful or polite cops. I'm guessing if you see cops every single day you work with a security detail? I'm "good" to people I can't stand if I have to work with them. You said you don't have any cops in your family? All of these things you've admitted to freely are claims of ignorance that I can't claim. Why then lack appreciation for the truths that are your idealistic social expectations and a decidedly narrow set of experiences? A contradiction to your perspectives and self-perception is something, on the contrary, to appreciate, if it's honest. We haven't lied to each other, have we? Thank you for your time, and please thank your daily police workers for being good people for me when you see them.
@Jackie Bunny 🗣️Preach! I'm always super polite and nice to cops. When they've tried to get on my case, guess what? They just get upset. If the average person knew how much overtime pay for cops came out of taxpayer treasuries for paperwork (read: ruining someone's day or WHOLE LIFE for their job and advancement), we would have had protests far before Mr Floyd was killed.
@Antonino Bilello No, I don't work in any sort of security job, I just live in an area with police departments that are very involved in the community. Though to your point, would the fact that you have different experiences than I do point to you also having a narrow set of experiences that contribute to your own ignorance? And I agree that experiences and ideas contradictory to my own are valuable and are to be respected. I do not believe we have lied to each other, I certainly haven't lied to you. I believe, as you said, that our individual life experiences contribute to our stances on this matter. I do appreciate that we've been able to have a civil discussion about this, it seems that's relatively difficult to do nowadays.
@Wanheda2112 Sure, I can understand everything you've just said, but I was comparing my experiences in more than one city, more than one state, between calling the cops on private and commercial security breaches through the full spectrum of getting falsely accused, arrested, detained, and jailed. I've met polite cops, I've had cops cuss me out, and I've been interacted with them in all sorts of weather. I've interacted with wildlife and fisheries, many flavors of local cops, plus state troopers and sheriff's deputies. I've shaken hands with three different active sheriffs, but none of them were bright and none of them gave me the impression that they cared about anyone but their family, especially when they would tell me that in private, not to mention in different, more public circumstances. I would agree that the only way my experiences don't align with yours is that cops in the states and cities I've lived in don't care about their communities, so, again, thank those good cops you see every day for me.
@Antonino Bilello Will do my friend. I'm sorry you've had so many bad experiences with law enforcement. And again thank you for the civil conversation on such a hot button topic that so many people seem to explode about these days
Withdrawal is horrible man, I would of been singing like a canary to get some methadone....Jeff is definitely a legend, that would be a nightmare situation to be in.
@Detective M never ever said that or insinuated that but ur trying to strawman my argument buddy thought he was gonna catch me lacking in this bih nice try tho
I was thinking 'they really should give these dudes methadone if they're sick in jail', but then I realized he would never have been so smooth if they had because it would've softened him up. His game was SOLID for someone getting dope sick with 15yrs hanging over his head.
Had they given him the methadone, he could have later claimed the entire interrogation invalid because he was under the influence of something the police gave him
@Who Cares It's possible. They don't give men menthadone in jail in the USA, so I don't think there's any protocol for that sort of situation. Also, if you're used to shooting dope every day for ten years like Jeff, a little bit of methadone isn't going to do much to you, but I see what you mean.
I've never heard of Jeff before but how did this interrogation even become public? Like I don't understand why and how this interrogation was released to the public, news and YouTube? It's not like it's a murder case or he was accused of some high profile crime, it's just an armed robbery and by the sounds of things the cops had no evidence on him if he was released 12 hours later. Sounds like he could have just been at the wrong place at the wrong time if he was hanging out at a buddy's house. Cops swarm the area looking for an armed robbery suspect, he comes outside with his buddy they run his name, see he has a record and bring him in and try and get a confession
How come it's not mentioned that Jeff asked for a lawyer numerous times, yet was never provided a lawyer. When you ask for a lawyer, the interview stops until you get a lawyer. Police don't get to stop the interview and throw you back into a cell when you ask for a lawyer, just to interview you again a couple hours later, without a lawyer. A cell is not a timeout, in hopes that the suspect forgets that he already asked for a lawyer.
To clarify, he's in holding because he IS being charged. The reason for the multiple interviews is because Jeff kept saying he would talk if he gets a coke and candy. So they bring him back up there for the interview. Jeff of course gives them nothing after he gets his coke. Try to keep up
@Michael P smart guy, well at least clever. Smart and heroin doesn’t match up in my brain but I don’t get a skeevery vibe from the dude. Hope his life turns around honestly/;
because he never "invoked" his rights. Wanting a lawyer is very different than actively invoking your right to one. They're very serious when they say "anything you say, can and will be used against you"
Lee Wisda that's hair splitting only that would be shot down in court. You're asking arrested people to use narrow legalese or it doesn't count. Asking for a lawyer IS the same as "invoking the right to one". Christ the ACLU would tear a new asshole into any DA or cop trying that shady excuse.
@Hyra Elle https://www.pittsburghcriminalattorney.com/when-and-how-to-invoke-your-right-to-silence-and-an-attorney/ Semantics matter more than you think...i want to agree with you, but what do you think "anything, can and will be used against you" means.. it means they'll use your own semantics against you. wanting something is very different than actively asserting your legal protected right to something. I can say I want to eat a burger, but that doesn't mean I will order a burger at the resturant I'm at. I can say I want a million dollars. That doesn't mean I will get a milllion dollars. I can say I want an attorney. That doesn't mean I'll actually get an attourney. INVOKING your rights is undeniably applying your constitutionally protected rights. Do your own researach
@Jame Retief I want to agree with you so badly, but unfortuanately there's a lot more evidence of the contrary... do your own research into the difference of asking for a lawyer vs actively invoking
@Hyra Elle just because you say "objection denied" doesn't make you right. do your own reasearch. I say all of this because its a genuine fear. what do you think they mean when they say "anything you say can and will be used against you." Cases are won and lost over semantics. I promise you wanting something is not the same thing as actively invoking your legally protected rights, and they will absolutely use that against you if they think your guilty and they're trying to coaxe a confession out of you.
@Jame Retief https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-rights/invoking-the-right-to-remain-silent.html reasonable officers will hear " i want a lawyer" and respond accordingly, but what if they're not reasonable.... what if they're convinced you're guilty and will do anythig to coax a confession out of you. what do you think "anything you say can and will be used against you". when you say you're invoking there is undeniably no turn around or "wiggle room" as they say. its the terrifying truth that they don't have your best interest at heart when they're interrogating you. semantics 1000% matter in the court of law. hair splitting terminology matters.
Lee Wisda so let me know the exact wording ti get a lawyer. Because if you want a lawyer the officer must tell you to use the words invoke asking for one is not enough. I looked it up and you are correct and that is a scummy trick if the police do not carefully tell them the wording to use. In spirit it violates Miranda and lowers my respect for cops that don't explain it to suspects that are absolutely unaware of the distinction. Why is that not specifically pointed out on the Miranda rights?
Lee Wisda unless it is to use the toilet, ask for a drink or food, or your prescribed meds keep your mouth shut and don't sign a damn thing until you lawyer advises you to. They're just trying to clear a case, they don't give a damn if you innocent they just want a clear rate on their job evaluation. This doesn't go for all police, just a vast majority because of the pressure from above. Take a page from Jeff's book and remember a few hours later he walked, if he had talked it would have been a couple of decades later if he was lucky.
@Jame Retief yes yes yes yes yes ! they'll hit you with the, "if you're innocent you have nothing to hide why do you need a lawyer? only guilty people need a lawyer" yeah fuck that, bye 100 times over. Don't talk to cops if they're reading you your miranda rights because after you agree to understanding your rights every single thing in that interview will be used against you if they can. If you don't verbalize your agreement to the miranda rights, or even sign it they can't interview you. ironically its an example from a fictionary film, but in 21st jump street they have to let go someone they arrested because they didn't read him his miranda rights. also look into the histroy of miranda rights and why they're even called miranda rights. when jeff said "put me back in my cell" it was a clear direct way of ending the interview. I promise you if he had said "i want to be put back in my cell" they would have ignored him for the same reason they didn't get him a lawyer when he said he wanted one.
Lee Wisda I'm not in the least mad at you and am grateful you pointed this crap out to me. If I'm ever arrested I'll remember this. I also plan to tell,all my family and friends. Thanks and if I ever run into you I owe you a coke.....and a Butterfinger 😎
@Jame Retief My genuine pleasure! I feel a lot of passion about it because its easy to say stay out of trouble, dont do things that will get you arrested yada yada, but you never know... wrongful convictions happen all the time..
also, that fuckin butterfinger omg haha. eat one for jeff, for me, will ya?
Asking for a lawyer is not the same as invoking your fifth amendment right. Most people should ask for a lawyer then shut up. Invoking your fifth amendment rights - despite what we are told - can be used by the police as justification for arresting you or getting a search warrant - so in many cases it's better just to say "I need a lawyer" and then shut up.
There was a case where a suspect "asked for a lawyer" - so the cop left and a well dressed detective came in sat, and said nothing. The suspect presumed the well dressed detective was a lawyer appointed for him - so he spilled his guts. His conviction was upheld in court.
@Lee Wisda Lee, both of your sources back up what we're telling you about your hair-splitting semantics. They both say that saying "I want a lawyer" is the same as invoking your right to a lawyer. The kind of conjectural semantic hair-splitting you're doing isn't insightful or intelligent. It's just you being silly and acting grandiose.
@Reheat The Pasta People who have been “successfully” on heroin for years are usually extremely smart! It’s a cruel world where the less smart and resourceful either end up in jail or dead! Trust me, I know this from personal experiences with addicts.
@SaraG what makes you think cops have your best interest at heart? especially when they think you're guilty and trying to coax a confession out of you. they're leagally allowed to lie to you...
"Real life is not like TV." This was told to a friend of mine who was in jail arrested for cannabis for which she had a legal prescription when she asked to make a phone call and was denied. This happened in Oakland California btw.
he was using them for sweets because it helps with heroin withdrawals so he kept waving his right for a lawyer and them giving them nothing. he was playing them.
@Lee Wisda you’re wrong. I work @ Preti, Flaherty, in the Portland office(rather than Augusta). I’m not an attorney, but a paralegal/notary/A. Brokers lic.(for real estate purposes; deeds, zoning etc.) & I just spoke to 3 attys after a deposition re:this. It’s laughable. You don’t have to say ‘invoke ‘, & btw, if you did have to- ya know that EVERY 2 bit criminal, thug, delinquent, drug dealer or user would KNOW that! Thes3 are people who have been bounced through the judicial process repeatedly. Nee, it’d be common knowledge. Jeff just kept changing his mind & telling em he’d talk(for Coke, Butterfinger..). He was playing em like a fiddle. He just wanted outta the cell, get a soda & maybe see what he could figure out from them. But soon as it came to really divulging anything, he shut his mouth, said he wanted lawyer & told them to take him back to his cell. Stop arguing this, really. You’re digging a moronic hole & speaking on a subject 3 attys just refuted instantly. Every one of them, & one alooked at me with raised eyebrows and started saying “what’s the joke? Gimme the punchline”, because he thought it was such a ludicrous question. Walt said, “.watch any true crime program on television and you can see that there’s no legislation on what vocabulary is used. Don’t even have to ask for atty, just say you’re done talking. Ends the interview.” Ya can see in this where the first cop says “I’m handcuffed now, ya asked for a lawyer “. Don’t try & be interpretive about something you saw or read, just get it from the horses mouth- ask an attorney, a judge, or just see how it’s functioning in the real world. You ever see a case where they say “well he asked for a lawyer, said he didn’t wanna talk, but he didn’t say INVOKE, so we got him!”?!! They’d be laughed out of the courtroom & drummed out of their job.
Jeff has to initiate the conversation each time by telling the detectives he will talk. That's why there are several attempts to interrogate him with each time having his miranda rights read.
As a criminal with over 30 years experience in various prisons, i can add that I've never heard of someone having to use the word "invoke". I think i would have heard of it. Hell, i was a law library clerk for over 3 years...
I'm going to speak to the heroine heroine use vs intelligence thing : I've personally NEVER touched it, but I I have known multiple people who were addicted to it. All of them were smart people and all of them had "good" teeth. We tend to view junkies how Hollywood portrays them, and I'm sure that there are some who would be like that, but none of the ones I knew were. Only one went from pain meds to heroine. Some I knew prior to their use, some after they got clean and some during.. ALL of them would have been deemed above average intelligence I. Q. Score wise. What I know is that in most cases they were trying to cope with pain, mental pain, not physical except for the one that was on pain meds first. Believe it or not but the world is not easy for smart people to deal with. You'd think there would be an advantage, but that ISN'T the case. Ask the smartest person you know if they have to dumb down for other people. It's also a misconception that money and intelligence go hand in hand. You can have an I. Q. Close to 200 but if you have no money you'll find it difficult to make money. (yes, I do actually know some one that topped out the Iq chart and he's dirt poor, not a heroine user to my knowledge) it seems to be that they got hooked because of the escape it provided.
"How come it's not mentioned that Jeff asked for a lawyer numerous times, yet was never provided a lawyer" How come most young people fuck up at the most basic of things, like ending questions with a question mark? :o
@BlackWallStreet While there are no specific words required to invoke, the Supreme Court has held that an invocation is sufficient so long as "a reasonable police officer, in the circumstances, would understand the statement to be a request for an attorney." REASONABLE POLICE OFFICER since when tf are officers reasonable?? they can and will happily say well he said he wanted a lawyer but then he started confessing so how am I suppose to know what he really wanted?? what part about ACAB do you not understand. I would never under any circumstances trust a cop to fully respect my rights unless i used unrefutable language. Yes you don't have to specifically say invoke but it is the surest way to ensure your rights legally have to be respected. but I highly advise against say "I want..." becuase it is not the same thing as "get me a lawyer now" or "I won't talk until I see my lawyer" . It's your life do whatever you want, but this is my truth and every single link I read about it says the same thing about reasonable police officers and that's fucking comical here in the US. I don't trust cops, and never will
up quite well. I don't know if the info is true but Jeff did turn his life around He got clean and he is doing something with music ( producing or something like that)
@Lee Wisda yes sir you are absolutely correct you must invoke your right to an attorney and you must invoke your right to remain silent they can still talk in front of you and ask questions to each other hoping you'll answer or maybe see how you react to them "reviewing the case notes" so we are "on the same page " as the investigating officers, we have to be able to "corroborate", Your Honor. We were not talking to the defendant, we were talking to each other. This is for anyone who think they can help LEOs by answering questions! ***VERY IMPORTANT! - In the US, police are allowed to testify by stating "hear say" as facts. Yes, you heard that right! Police can get on the stand & swear an oath that what someone else told the officer is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. But it has to be a "truth" that points toward your guilt. IF THE OFFICER STATS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED TO POINT TOWARDS YOUR INNOCENTS, IT IS NOT ALLOWED & MUST BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD AND DISREGARDED BY THE JURY!!!! Making a statement to LEOs without an attorney can only be used to hurt you! It cannot & will not be used to help you!!! If that doesn't make you see why talking to police is a bad idea, then nothing will!
@Picture me trollin cops are hella shady and all they care about are convictions, they don't care if you're guilty or not. i really don't get what people don't understand about "*anything you say can and will be used against you" they mean anything, including semantics. Wanting something is not the same thing as asserting your constitutionally protected rights.
@Lee Wisda my statement, if necessary. "Excuse me officer, I will have to invoke my right to counsel and will be unable to give a statement or answer any questions until I can contact my attorney. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. I will give you a full statement and cooperate fully as soon as possible. Thank you for your understanding in this matter." Then I prepare to go to jail. lol
@Lee Wisda Had he said “I️ THINK I️ want a lawyer” or even “MAYBE I should get a lawyer” you’d be correct. The interrogation can continue, because THINKING you want to ask for a lawyer, or saying you MAYBE should get one doesn’t count as invoking, as it’s merely a hypothetical. However if you say the words “I️ want a lawyer” that is instantly invoking your right to council. You don’t have to say the words verbatim “I️ would like to invoke my right to council.” And even AFTER invoking said right, the police can still talk AT you, they just can’t use any response you give in court.
In this case he’d invoke, they’d take him back to his cell, he’d waive his right to council so they’d bring him back in for an interrogation and he could get soda or candy, just to invoke again. Rinse and repeat. You can waive your right to council and re-invoke as many times as you’d like.
Personally I️ like him for this ingenuity, that’s why the term “antihero” is explained. He was smart, he used his rights to his advantage without ever divulging any evidence, and subsequently was released from jail because of it. But he DID invoke by saying “I️ want a lawyer” and he DID continue being brought in for waiving said right. I️ trust police as far as I️ can throw them, and I’m severely physically disabled. I️ couldn’t throw a dumbbell over 70lbs. But everything about this was by the books.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 He WAS an addict in withdrawal, hence why he asked for methadone, yet refused to SPEAK let alone sign anything. I️ hate the entire police force, please don’t get me wrong here. But they continued to put him in his cell as soon as he asked for representation, and subsequently brought him back out into interrogation when he waived his right to council in order to get soda or a candy bar, just to invoke his rights (which is entirely within his power) once again.
In this particular case the police followed procedure completely, which is why he was released from jail and never put into the prison system for this charge, or even tried for his suspected crime. He outsmarted all of them, and in a way I respect him for that. However even with that being said, armed robbery specifically certainly isn’t a victimless crime, and I’m sure the victims involved (y’know, the innocent people with guns pointed in their face that likely thought they’d be killed that night) DO deserve justice. Does he deserve life in prison? Absolutely not. But let’s say police had the right person, he should have served some hard time for putting innocent people through such a traumatic experience.
On the other hand, clearly they didn’t have sufficient evidence to continue holding him, so it’s quite possible he wasn’t the one to commit the robberies. We don’t know.
I’ve read about this in a forensic justice course I took once. It’s well within their rights to skirt around somebody saying that by dropping the interview at that time and then later asking to speak with the suspect again. It won’t get thrown out in court. It’s the suspects responsibility to say “I want a lawyer” any time they are about to be questioned. Just one of those things where there’s more “bend” in real-life scenarios than one may expect reading the letter of the law
They probably kept interrogating because he was coming down from heroin and his attorney could use his impairment as a defense. I'm sure the prosecution wants him to make his statement as clear headed in order to make a solid case against him.
Often times remaining silent when asked if they understand is a sign they are guilty, especially if not trying to deny what they did. Which is surprising in itself he would give himself up that easy 😂
Jay but it shouldn’t be taken as a sign that they are guilty. It should be taken as they do not want to accidentally incriminate themselves, and would rather consult with a lawyer. You can’t read somebody their rights and then not expect them to take advantage of them😂
@Jay "remaining silent when asked if they understand is a sign they are guilty," in the UK it does, in the Unite States of America it does NOT. You have a right to remain silent and that means it, as it should be you need evidence, a justice system based on shitty kafka-traps liberates criminals and imprisons the innocent.
I love how English Judges instruct jurors in trials "the defendant has a right to remain silent... but if they are silent you can use that to find them guilty" it's utter gobshite, if you're punished for exercising a right then no such right exists. It's like saying you have a right to vote but if you vote I'll arrest you just because you voted.
When the law was changed to allow such a violation of rights there were protests and riots but as the Labour party was in agreement with the Tory party on denying this right then it was pushed through despite it not being what was wanted by everyone else.
I think youre all missing the point. He can remain silent after admitting he understands his rights. He sstaying silent so that in court he can try and argue that they interogated him without him understanding his rights. Thats why they wont proceed until he acknowledges that he understands
@Jay thats exactly what they want you to think. People think that they are smart and beleive that they have to talk and give a statement. Since u refused your right to remain silent every thing you say is going to only incriminate your self becouse a statement isint for you its not to help u. When questioned and ask if you are willing to talk and give them a statement its becouse its only in there best interest that you do they aren't asking you to talk to help u its to help them every thing you say will only be misquoted and used against u late. Just u gotta look at it from a different angle or look at it from outside the box ok you have already been placed under arrest and are going to jail regardless and people think they have the ultimate story and once they explained it all out the detectives are gonna. Say will golly gee why diddnt you tell us that from the beginning come here and let me take those hand cuffs off and then apologize to you for the inconvenience before giving u a ride home .. So Jay i hope my points and views. Have helped you see the blunders of how they want you to think .
@Treblaine Sorry, but I'm a crmj major in the USA. I understand what I'm talking about, and even with the right to remain silence, anyone who is not guilty would speak up, its basic psychology, which I needed for my degree. :))
@Jay no wonder someone studying to work with the cops would have this interpretation of remaining silent, it's the same one cops seem to have. But your right to remain silent is something you should use whether guilty or not. Cops are trying to convict someone, and if they are arresting you that means they are trying to convict you. Anything you say could potentially be used against you, so it's sensible not to say anything at all. If you have a story that will exonerate you, good, keep it to yourself until you have consulted with an attorney and they are present. Until then it's only logical to stay silent and ask for a lawyer.
@Jay oghs jay you seem intelligent.. but.. your soo wrong in that statement.. silence is not a admission of guilt at all.. as seen here in this vid, it is merely a usage of ones rights.. and knowing that you are being set up / have the situation set against you .. in an unfair way.. silence is often a tool of the smart and .. dodged survivalist.. who knows the lay of the land.. as any good hunter / woodsman knows.. or as I said.. survivalist.. don't be so ignorant and judgmental and naive please .. there are whole doctrines of thought out there that are soo contritictive to what you posted..
@Jay coughs a paper degree can .. be very misinformed of the real world. I was a detention officer for a year in a bad county jail.. doing everything from booking to feeding the jail of 300+ solo to being the court officer 3 days a week.. to doing visitations .. to dealing with violent disturbances.. I bet your degree hasn't taught you half of 6 months doing that job taught me... just saying.. but im sure .. you "know" what you think you "know" but understand .. there are always angles you haven't seen and don't have a clue about.. this is true for all peoples.. be well Jay
@desperate dave Thats cool! You also dont know me, what ive been through with court and the law, and what my current job is! Dont assume you know my whole life!
Being silent is seen as guilty because, why not talk if you’re innocent. The same with seeking a lawyer while talking to cops. Ether way they are seen as defensive and will lead them to believe you are guilty. If you are telling the truth or didn’t do anything wrong you shouldn’t have a problem talking to the cops. Just don’t let them intimidate you because intimidation leads to fear and when you’re scared you seek a way to get out of the situation. This could lead to you accidentally incriminating yourself just because you’re going along and agreeing with everything just to get it done and over with.
@Jay why dont you tell it to any # of the shows presently on tv, netflix, hulu, etc...where each episode is about someone wrongfully convicted by police. Many of which involve gross misconduct by the police and DA. Your views of the world where the police are always the "good guys" is either childish or stupid...not sure which one.
Pizza Party doesn’t matter what they believe in at the end of the day. Nobody cares if the cop knows you’re guilty. What matters is what that judge says, and if you keep your mouth shut there’s not much evidence for the judge to find you guilty lol. Who cares if the cop “believes you’re guilty” silence in these situations guilty or not is always best
Jay after all that arguing with people and bragging about ur MaJoR that’s what you have to say lol. But thanks for calling me a genius it’s more of just having common sense 😬 you could learn a thing or 2 about that.
@Jay Too bad you didn't need goddam English grammar for your degree "Right to remain SILENT" for fuck's sake not even adjectives are safe from butchering nowadays? Btw if that is what they teach you in criminal JUSTICE I don't think other words are needed to comment on the state of the legal system in the US...
Hey guys whatever u guys say and whatever knowledge and life experience you have dont matter coz i have a paper telling me i am the law and the world centers around me. If you dare to try to correct me i will tell you have a degree on it so i automatically win! My logic beats all yallllll
@Jay Even if you're innocent it's stupid to say anything. The police are not there to prove your innocence and regardless of what the court says, once in custody the police believe that you're guilty until proven innocent.
Jay bruh the amount of times innocent people have confessed to a crime they didn’t commit after being interrogated for hours is unreal. if i were innocent, i would still remain silent and ask for a lawyer. the pigs can and will twist anything you say during the interrogation (it puts SO MUCH STRESS on a person, which allows the cops to make you question everything you say. it is absolutely disgusting) and use your own words against you. it’s just basic knowledge. so anyway, fuck 12, acab, and sign petitions.
Opiate withdrawal is such a bitch. Cold sweats, restlessness like you can’t believe, body aches, you cant sleep, sometimes you hear shit. I can’t bring myself to stop using because of it. It’s too hard. I don’t know how this Jeff dude got through all of us this but it reminds me that addicts are fucking strong when we have to be. This dude rocks.
They always use that bs. I am from the UK and have a bit of a criminal record. I was once arrested under suspicion of criminal damage because the damage caused was similar to a crime I had committed before. I knew I was innocent but during the interview the officer said, "we are building a strong case against you". I replied, "in that case, why are you interviewing me? Just charge me now and don't pretend you're here to help me because you're only interested in conviction numbers." I said nothing else for the entire interview
@AnObviousMjolnir I never really "chose to become a criminal". I was going through a rough patch after leaving school. I'd been severely depressed and had no future at the time. I committed a number of crimes over a 5 year period. I was arrested around 30-40 times, appeared in court 10 times, had numerous probation meetings, completed over 100 hours of community service and did a few months in prison
Shane Sawyer ye sorry probably should have worded it better but I’m not the best with semantics at sometimes. Being on a binge of murderer videos probably didn’t put me in the most sensitive/caring mindset but I honestly didn’t mean it in a judgey way, was just a quick comment without much thought in. Thanks for still choosing to answer though, I was curious about the psychology and circumstances that leads to the point where people end up on the wrong side of the law. I hope life is better for you now
@Generic Human best tactic is to talk like fuck until they caution you and then no comment. I once got driven from Lancashire to wiltshire by dectetives chatting all the way for 4 hours and shut up in interview
@Generic Human Actually if you were arrested then you were in fact already charged with the crime you were arrested for. Saying "charge me now" wouldn't really make any sense for as long as you remain incarcerated you remain under charges. Only when they decide to drop charges are you let go. I recommend educating yourself on the subject before committing any other crimes or comments.
@AnObviousMjolnir There was no need to apologize as what you said to Shane was in fact correct. Shane chose to commit all those crimes, so yes he did in fact choose to become a criminal. Shane is obviously shortsighted though as is apparent in his comments, which may be the leading factor in his arrest history. However sugarcoating your wording, and allowing Shane to continue denying obvious truths won't benefit either of you IMO. Just saying..
@Rick the Swift He literally said he's gotten his life under control already, so putting in that petty ending comment really makes you sound like a jerk. Also by taking in someone for questioning the police can't actually officially arrest you unless they have enough evidence to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you did indeed commit the crime. Questioning is typically used to try and extract more information on a case, analyze the suspect's behavior in order to determine a psychological profile as well as if anything they're saying might be legitimate, and to potentially extract a confession for the crime they are suspected of. In this circumstance, he made it apparent that the crime committed was similar to one he'd committed before, but he was indeed innocent and had nothing to do with it. So he gave them little to no information, that way nothing he said could be taken as a confession and used against him when the person who actually committed the crime was yet to be found. He knew that he was innocent and being familiar with the system, he knew that they would try to use the 'we have enough evidence' tactic to try and extract a confession early on. It's a method that is often used on suspects that investigators are heavily suspicious of being guilty but may not necessarily have the evidence to prove it yet. Perhaps you should kindly educate yourself before deciding to leave a pretentious-sounding comment directed toward someone who has already stated that they have been through the system enough to understand what happens in an investigation. It would make you look a lot less like a jerk. Just saying. :)
@Rosario BY " by taking in someone for questioning the police can't actually officially arrest you unless they have enough evidence to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you did indeed commit the crime.. " Please, are you really trying to say our man Jeff wasn't arrested? Did you not see the handcuffs?? The prison garbs?? Him expressing his wishes to be detained in his "cell"?? What exactly do think being arrested entails?? I'm sorry if I sounded like a jerk, but you must realize the absurdity that you and so many of his other defenders are proposing!
@Rick the Swift you seem like a hate filled individual so I will not argue with you, but instead leave this one comment. I was taken to a police station, under arrest on suspicion of the offence. I was then interviewed, as stated in my comment. The CPS are then handed the information collected by the police and decide if there is enough to charge someone. There was not enough evidence and I was therefore bailed for 3 weeks. I attended the police station 3 weeks later and they told me that I was not being charged.
They bought me in under suspicion because the act of criminal damage was almost identical to a previous offence.
I also do not appreciate your lecture. My mental health was at its lowest point during that time. Most of my offences lead to no harm, physically or mentally, to other people. 90% of my arrests were for being drunk and disorderly, public order offences and carrying weapons that I used to self harm. I don't blame anyone but myself for what I did and your comments just show your holier than thou attitude. During my time in prison, I quickly learned that almost all petty crime was being committed by people who were mentally ill or addicted to alcohol or drugs. This is no excuse but how about showing some kindness and understanding. Maybe that way we can actually work towards preventing crime, instead of punishing people after the fact
@No One thanks for the kind words. I usually just ignore negative people but couldn't let this one go. Some people are so ignorant when it comes to the mindset of criminals. They seem to think every person that commits a crime is just a horrible person with a lack of morals.
It's nice to have some positivity and respect in these comments too. A few people like yourself have been very kind
@Generic Human Good luck mate. I'm glad you're doing better. I hope things continue in that vain.
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Rick the Swift2020-08-09 20:32:27 (edited 2020-08-09 20:33:00 )
@Generic Human Call me ignorant if you like, I won't argue either, but know this- all those crimes you committed didn't choose you, it was you who chose to commit to them. I'm glad you feel you've learned a thing or two about the system and how to stay out of it, and glad to hear that you also feel you are now doing great, but that doesn't negate the fact that you continue to paint yourself as a victim of circumstance, rather than owning up to the fact that you chose to commit the crimes you did. Like you, I'm capable of having all of the emotions contained within the human condition and yes "hate" may rear its ugly head from time to time, even though I don't believe this is one of those times. And like you as well, I've committed many crimes, sins, and transgressions against more than just my fellow humans. But unlike you, I'm perfectly aware those were choices I made, which I am deeply sorry for, and they weren't just due to the circumstances of my mental state, my family problems or whatever other excuse you may try to think of. Blatantly ignoring my own responsibility for the damage I've caused to others would be a kin to me blaming society for the shitty way you and others may feel I've spoken to you. If you feel I've been shitty and hateful towards you, I truly apologize and hope you can accept it- those were not my intentions.
I hope that makes some sense, and I also wish you a bountiful journey on your own path of self-correction and raising awareness. :)
@Rick the Swift Surely you must realize that I wasn't referring to Jeff, but the man who left a comment here previously. Being held for questioning can actually sometimes entail handcuffs and actually being held in a cell (especially if it's someone who's been arrested for previous offenses.) However, unless they are proven guilty of what they're being accused or questioned about and there is sufficient evidence to hold them for trial, the police are required to release them. In Jeff's case, it is implied that there might actually be more evidence to incarcerate him, not to mention there may have been other offenses that weren't being brought up. The man that was leaving a comment about his experiences stated that he hadn't committed the crime and was later released when they couldn't get anything out of him. Why? Because although he was suspected, there was NO EVIDENCE to hold him for actual arrest. Cops can take you in for questioning with handcuffs, find no evidence or information from you and then release you, because if there is no evidence and no confession to lead to said evidence, then it is illegal to officially arrest and detain you.
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Rick the Swift2020-08-17 02:37:40 (edited 2020-08-17 02:38:11 )
@Rosario BY I appreciate your reply as I'd realized shortly after making my comment that I'd misunderstood whom you were speaking of, but was unable to retrieve the original link to recant my retort. I am clear now in understanding you were referring to Shane Sawyer's comment, and not to the video's content or the main character (Jeff)within. However, I would still point out that you are wrong when you say people (at least in the United States of America)can be taken in "for questioning with handcuffs" without being officially arrested and detained. I thought I'd explained in a previous post that when a police officer in the USA puts handcuffs on you and locks you in a cell, you in fact are officially arrested and detained. What happens after that is the initial charges are then forwarded to higher levels of authority, such as detectives, police chiefs, and prosecutors who make recommendations and final decisions as to whether or not the initial charges "will stick", and/or "be held up in a court of law". I'm doubting you are a lawyer or have proper legal expertise in the U.S. legal system, so will not argue further in the matter, but will instead end with the following:
Perhaps you were 100% correct that I sounded like a jerk for pointing out Shane's shortsightedness, but perhaps it is you who should also educate yourself regarding the policies and legal nomenclature within the U.S. police precincts before attempting to educate others. Hope that helps 🙏
@Rosario BY Just because I want to help you understand, please watch the video again. At 0:05 Jeff asks (while in handcuffs), "Am I under arrest?", and the officer replies "Yeah, for now". Also please re-read Shane's original comment where he says, "I was once arrested for suspicion of criminal..."
So hopefully you can see that both of these men were in fact arrested and detained.
El general2020-09-30 19:43:29 (edited 2020-09-30 19:44:19 )
@Generic Human i want to work in a prison.. I deal with theives allday. they chose to do their crimes but they have a reason for it. desperation, etc. somencrimes are more serious or less. not every criminal is a bad person. im no better then they are. they know what they did. I want to learn more about how they think becuase I want to be able to work with them
@Generic Human You just have to be willing to stay in a cell for two days. That’s the longest they can keep you. And keep your mouth shut. Ask for a lawyer. They let you go after 24 hours.
Okay this is kinda funny hahaha😅😆 the only reason why he is there because they give him free coke, he said😆 and then asking for butterfinger the cops promised him😆
@J K Did you even listen to the narrator? Obviously not. He explains why we root for the "everyman, underdog, antihero. Oh wait, your one of those people that cherry pick what they want to hear and leave out the rest. Damn it..you probably don't even know what cherry picking is, do you? And no, its not the picking cherries from tree's in this context. SHIT!🤦♀️ I just did it again..i suppose you don't know what context means either. I give up, nothing to see here..move along folks
@George Jones No, it's not. The Supreme Court has ruled that, if you have been informed of your rights, and demonstrate a clear recognition of those rights, and you talk to the police anyway, you have voluntarily waived your rights. To invoke your right to remain silent, you have to be silent. That means not talking. If you want a lawyer present during your interrogation, you can tell the police that you want a lawyer, but they can keep you in the room until your lawyer arrives, and if you say anything to them before that time, that statement is admissible as evidence against you.
I am recovering heroin addict and it was the hardest thing I had to kick. It was brutal to come off so I can sympathize with jeff. Btw I am 4 years clean and working as a peer at my local rehab with others struggling with the terrible disease of addiction. And personally proud of Jeff standing up for his rights.
@• 72 years ago Oh and I know because of my bf story who stopped doing heroine because was caught by mother and forced to stop and she didn't give a damn fuck about withdrawal, that was 2 years ago, we still can't talk.
@• 72 years ago 20 years from now someone clean could see a syringe and get that familiar itch in his stomach.. No one is an ex-addict, just a clean one..
Why you tried heroin in the 1st place ?! You did not know it will ruin your life?! I have no sympathy with heroin addicts because it’s your choice so assume it!!
I suffer severe chronic pain, and I'm sure it would give me an hour or two relief, but the other side is bad. Maybe just a puff of Opium? Lol. It would be nice to have a break, even if a short one. It's something people can't and won't understand. I was once that way too.
@Salma EL ASMAI you talk the same way to fat people? Forbid them to eat at Macdonads? Its their fault? Your way of looking at people with addiction scares me..
@Salma EL ASMAI do my homework? you want me to explain it for you? YES.. sugar addiction is on same lvl. Addiction in every form is an illness. Do your own search..
I'm glad you're recovering, but you better not be one of those uptight anti drug guys now, because the government should have zero control over what I do with my body, all drugs should be legalised, people that can't control their addictions are NOT my problem
@Rashad Avery Smoking weed does not make you more intelligent than anyone else. It’s unnecessary, you don’t need it, and I honestly don’t know anyone over 30 who smokes weed and is in good mental health.
Why are all of your videos suddenly disappearing? I watched 5 or 6 of these last night and now I can’t even find the same ones I watched on your channel…?
it doesnt want to tell you what to be you can be like jeff or not you can be a heroin addict or not idk who are they to tell you they are showing the pros and cons
Jeff has survived heroin addiction for 14 Years, gets free Cokes (but where's the butterfinger?) and either takes the right to remain silent to the most literal degree possible, and even when he does talk - out talks the police (they say they have tons of evidence, and give him none, plus is they have tons of evidence why would they need more?) while telling them nothing ! What I'd like to know is what planet is Jeff really from , he's obviously more than super human !
I like jeff. I believe he didnt rob anybody but his BUDDY's prolly did lol while jeff doin his own thing.. u got the violent friends with propensity for violence then their polar opposite jeff.
@عمر الفرارجة a prick means unhonest person or someone who is very unpleasant The cop tried to gain empathy by telling Jeff he's a prick but jeff knows he's bullshitting
While standing at the Er waiting to be checked in for a mandatory psych hold (suicide stuff) i looked over at the cop with me and said so calmly "your hair looks like shit". He got sheepish brushed it down and said he had been wearing a hat. In reality he waa balding. That shit hurt him and ive never stopped feeling bad about it. He was kind to me at my lowest.
Do we all remember the rules? 1. Always go peacefully and don’t argue. No reason to plea your case to the cops 2. Don’t talk to the police. Everything you say to them “can and will be used against you”, it CANNOT help you. 3. “Lawyer” should be the only word you ever say. 4. Tell your lawyer the truth. No reason to lie to them. 5. Follow the rules.
I don't know about the whole "no reason to pleas your case to the cops" bit. If there's ambiguity in the circumstances of arrest, the way you conduct yourself can definitely play a role in whether they seek to pursue charges back at the station after an interview etc. It plays part of a cumulative effect.
James No...Look, the police 9/10 only care about the interrogation in order to get a confession. And that’s how you should see it. If you’re sitting there thinking that they’re there to help you, then you are gravely mistaken. They are trained to beat confessions out of people, they don’t care if you’re innocent or not. Best thing to do is shut your mouth. Any lawyer will tell you the same thing.
F-35A Lightning II I didn't say I think they're there to help me, I said if there's u uncertainty/ambiguity surrounding the case you've been arrested for, somebody has to make the conscious decision whether to pursue charges. As per the body language analysis in this video, sometimes pleading your case without actually giving anything away, can be the difference between them pursuing those charges or not.
James But that doesn’t matter. Let them pursue charges, ok? You have a better chance of saying something stupid then convincing them you’re innocent. Mind you, you’ve ALREADY been arrested. The guys behind the one way glass have already made they’re decision. They just want an interaction like this: Interrogator: “Look man, You were driving erratically and I could smell alcohol on you.” You: “I don’t know what to say, the last time I had a drink was last Sunday.” Interrogator: “But look at from where I am. Do you see how I could think that? Do you really think I’m going to sit here and lie to you?” You: “No, but-“
Uh oh, you just indirect admitted to a possibility of you being intoxicated while driving AND that the officer wasn’t lying meaning you also played a role in confessing to erratically driving and smelling of alcohol. This case actually happened, by the way. And it’s an easy mistake to make if you agree to talk to the police. You really don’t get much out of it. This illusion you’re playing on, that you can plead your way out of it, just usually isn’t true. It a gamble and you still might screw it up with some simple slip up. Just shut your mouth, get your phone call, and talk to your lawyer.
F-35A Lightning II can you name/supply the case you're referring to above? I find it highly unlikely that saying "No, but-" when asked by a police offer if you think they're lying, can lead to a "indirect admitting " and conviction.
James Not conviction, but you’re sitting here and trying to claim that it’s reliable to talk to the police. They can use that “no, but-“ in court to dismiss a statement about how you definitely weren’t drinking and driving, which just prolongs your proceedings. I’m saying that it’s like playing roulette. Sure, it’s possible you might convince them that you’re innocent, but you’re more likely to dig your hole a little deeper. I’m not saying that it would lead to prison, but by saying no to a question about lying, it implies you believe that they’re telling the truth, which implies you aren’t denying that there was alcohol, which implies you could have been drinking and driving, which definitely isn’t helpful if you’re trying to prove you certainly were drinking and driving. I mean, you’re technically right, right? You COULD talk you’re way out of it, but why try.
As for the case, you must bare with me as I do not know the specific name and it is not prevalent enough to simply find on the internet. However, I suggest you read this:
It gives some background on confessions and self-incrimination. The reason you have your 5th amendment right is BECAUSE of this process the police commit to. Because if you didn’t have it, the police would always make you talk and always try to squeeze it out of you. So, why on Earth would you ever subject yourself to that voluntarily? It’s made to be a malicious system and nothing else. And if you are in an appropriate setting, questioned for a reasonable amount of time, we’re given your Miranda rights, were perfectly able to contact a lawyer, you openly and without prompting answer with an incriminating answer, are of a certain maturity, and are of a healthy physical state, that “no, but-“ counts not necessarily as a confession of guilt, but of uncertainty. And if you weren’t guilty, why hamper your chance by answering to anything at all? Even if you don’t say anything incriminating, of the police do charge you with a crime, you can’t use any part of the interrogation as evidence for your case. It’s essentially a lose-lose situation.
F-35A Lightning II I agree with most the points you make here, but you're definitely putting words in my mouth now. I've never said it's reliable to talk to the police or that I advise of trying to convince them of your innocence. I just said, if there's uncertainty as to whether they believe you're guilty/the evidence suggests you are - how you conduct yourself will definitely play a role in whether they pursue charges/continue an investigation against you. Anyway, have a good day, it was good chatting.
@James It was good. I did not intend to put words in your mouth, but it seemed to me as if you were suggesting to talk to police as a means to prove your innocence, which is not at all where you should be doing that.
Zak Griffiths No, actually they are legally required not to. Look up attorney-client privilege, dude. You’re lawyer is legally bound not to reveal anything you tell to them in private, even if it’s a confession to a crime. Unless you give them instruction to disclose information, they can’t say anything.
In the case of sorella she didn't talk but when the cop showed her the pictures of her muredered daughters and she didn'react or talk .. that was used against her in court
Your lawyer should not ask you anything at start.. He should just say dont say anything!! If your lawyer first meets you and ask if you did it hes not a good one
I was working a pot grow that was raided by the police and was arrested for it 5 years later. the fed who was driving me to jail asked how long did I have that grow? I replied I don't know what you're talking about. In court the bitch prosecutor told the judge I had so many pot grows that I didn't know which one he was asking about. Obviously not what I said, but I learned you can't say a single word to pigs because they'll change it to mean anything they want.
You have to remember cops only have a high school diploma at most. I would definitely speak to those degenerates, please my case and they'd be too confused not to let me go.
@James this video mentions the butterfly effect and there is a 50 minute lecture here on youtube called "never talk to the cops" where they go in to great detail how even a 100% honest and innocent statement that doesn't in anyway incriminate you, can be used to turn on you, and incriminate you. That 50 minute lecture is 50% a professor of law 50% a police officer.
The ONLY reason why you are in that room, is for the cops to get material against you. In that room, they aren't your friends. That's why they have to read you your rights: "everything you say can and will be used AGAINST you", the law is very specific in that way.
The officer in that lecture says something along the lines of: "86% of all arrests lead through conviction through confession". You have to lawyer up, even if you are the victim, or for example the only witness to a murder.
I've only been in trouble once.. its true.. even if they act like they're on your side they are just trying to get you for something :( scary shit for me at the time.
@F-35A Lightning II cops are only human and trying to do their job. Is it not possible the majority of them actually want to get to the truth and see justice served?
@Person Incognito Oh PI! You sing my song! I'm a girl and I watch a lot (a lot) of MMA, BJJ and Sumo. Because most of those commenting are guys on martial art channels, I'm always saddened to hear two guys dissolving from intelligent gentlemen to calling each other names and insulting one another. Guess it's just another sign of the times.... really sad though. PI, I applaude your maturity, elegance and intelligence❣🎖
@Brady Neal ...and now, things have relaxed so much... I remember when it was a big deal! 🌱 Thanks for sharing, your analogy is a good one! Hope life had become better and nicer for you!
@Blue eyes Thank you for the kind words. My incident happened in Vegas in 2015. Weed had become legal in Vegas at that time and the bitch prosecutor must have passed weed billboards on her way to court because I know I did. And she was still trying to give me 20 years! Luckily the judge was an honorable man and ignored her bullshit that I was a danger to society and gave me 5 years probation, which is over the end of this year. My normal life has been on hold for 5 years, so I will be glad when this ridiculousness ends.
@Erase Life There is usually a process to change public defenders. However, the procedures are sometimes complex and time consuming. You will have to submit a written request to the court as well as the public defender’s office and provide evidence as to why you are submitting the change request.
I have tried brain washing my kids these rules since their childhood. I also add an extra rule. Wait till his dad or mom or lawyer arrive before even opening his mouth. Only say name then ask for lawyer. Nothing else. And I explained that cop will lie and deceive at every opportunity to get what they want.
@Ricky Hits I got asked that question once, if I hadn't done anything what did I have to worry about. Answer was 20 something years of watching L&O, soon as I asked for attorney they sent me on my way (I had nothing to do with what they were after anyways).
It’s not a pun, if anything it’s a cringy pun. If he had given him methadone, which is the cops fault, then he would have gotten some sort of a confession. Just more evidence the police are disconnected from reality and how the world works.
@hi86065 you know I normally don’t explain things to people but for you I’ll make the exception.
#1 The cop asked if he was prescribed the medication and he said no, he would have needed to be evaluated and then prescribed the medication, a cop can’t just give out a controlled substance because a drug addict said the was in withdrawal all addicts would just commit a crime when in withdrawal to be questioned about said crime to get more drugs.
#2 Had the cop given him the medication without a prescription his confession would have been useless because he would have been under the influence, not to mention the cops not a Dr so giving him the medication would have been unlawful “ let’s give him drugs to get the confession” right okay.
#3 The man is “heroine” addicted they gave him “Coca-Cola” to make him comfortable enough that he might confess.
#4 someone dumb enough to think that law enforcement should be giving out controlled substances to coerce a confession probably isn’t capable of understanding a joke.
@Panda Pinecone an estimated 1/20 criminal cases result in a wrongful conviction. Even if you're innocent you should just keep your mouth shut and talk to a lawyer so you have fully understand everything
I respect the hell out of Jeff for how he interacted here regardless of whether he committed that armed robbery or not. I hope he's gotten clean and is living his best life. Man deserves more than what he got with his lot in life.
@Beauty By Ashhh by being 2 steps ahead of the officers at all times, and not divulging information, calling out the cop's lies about having evidence when it didn't exist.
@Alex Horn Addiction to drugs like heroin has no moral basis. You have one life and it should be your right to do what you want, even if it causes harm. If it's something like crack, which can make users harm others, my opinion would be a bit different. Morality has nothing to do with personal life choices. It comes into play when you involve others. Just like getting wasted at home, getting a tattoo or being gay, it's nobody's business.
@Suylyath The actions they're willing to do to fuel their addiction is what makes them the anti-hero. Besides,consuming drugs also has other mental effects that may or may not affect others
@Alex Horn Lol my dude quit with the argument narrowing. He’s clearly not saying drug addiction is the same as being gay. He’s saying it’s nobody’s business and has no moral basis
@Адам I think you have a preconceived idea of addicts in your head. You wouldn’t call an alcoholic an anti-hero. They fuel their addiction because they’re addicted. Some are genetically predisposed. Others made some bad decisions. But just being an addict doesn’t make you morally conflicted to the point where one should be labeled an anti-hero.
@Suylyath It can. I was an methamphetamine addict for 4-6 years. I lied, cheated, and stole my loved ones to feed my drug habit. When you're an addict you emotionally and God forbid physically hurt the ones around you.
@Brandon1997 I understand that. Meth is horrible but I don’t think addiction as a trait is morally wrong to the point where it would make a hero an anti-hero. I feel that kind of rhetoric vilifies addicts as if their disease outweighs their victories or heroisms. Many addicts function without hurting anyone
@Brandon1997 For sure. It can drive you to do messed up things and those actions are what makes someone morally wrong. My mother was a meth addict when I was a baby. I grew up around addicts, but my mother still took care of me and did everything she could to make sure I was on the right path. She’s my hero and no amount of drugs she did in the past will make her an anti-hero
What is the point of telling him his rights, when they aren't upheld while he is choosing to use them? He asked for a lawyer. Stop trying to get him to talk without one.
The last one I saw a woman got 10 years for murdering her 2 daughters. This guy maybe got 15-20 for a crime where at worst someone got scared and lost some money? 🤦♂️ wild.
Those investors got trolled i love seeing what happens when the investors get questioned back. What seems to fluster the investors is the fact that he called bullshit on both investors. That's the perfect way to counter interrogate the police giving the fact police can lie cilivian can't.
There are some very few cases where cooperation does benefit. But if they're already convinced of your guilt don't say anything....But don't load up on sugar when you know withdrawal is coming either. His cell is going to be covered in sticky coke-vomit....
And I would think if we have his name we can look up more on him. Won't necessarily yield anything, but if he got arrested again they'd have that on record.
Detective: "You have the right to remain silent, do you understand?" Jeff: Remains silent Absolute legend here!
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C Z2022-01-07 11:19:04 (edited 2022-01-07 11:21:05 )
I don't know if he intentionally played them here but he sure did have the right to remain silent lol From their reaction I don't believe this is a regular occurrence to them!
I fail to understand why cop #2 at 9:30 is even talking to this guy... he asked for a lawyer hours ago... I am no attorney, but I have to believe anything he would have told cop #2 would have been inadmissible.
the taking the handcuffs off thing was a misdirection to get him to agree to understanding his rights, they came in and restarted 3 times just so they could set up a nice clip of him agreeing
at the beginning i thought that he read to Jeff his rights, he has the right to remain silent so he didn't answer. and he didn't want them to know that he understands his rights.
Serial killers and psycopaths cant behave like jeff because they actually want to brag about their crimes, most of the time is that narcisistic attitude that gets them in the first place because they "have to let someone know what they did" thats the whole point and they never think they will get caught. They cant stay quiet for long, every time they get reminded of the crime they feel like they r going to explode if they dont say something usually happens when the interrogator makes them feel confortable, after that they gladly spill the soup with details.
Is there a total and complete video of all his interrogations? I almost feel like (not saying The creator of this channel has anything to do with it ) the video of this guys experience is put up an out for those to watch so the “they” (government/cops/the man) can read the general publics responses/comments of how people react to this particular interrogation, which IS so different than most, to gain knowledge and statistics of why this guy is so popular. What the gen pop sees in him. Why they sympathize with him. Basically to learn for further info about humans in general and use it for study (the reactions of all those who’ve commented) into a form of manipulation and a way to better manipulate/interrogate. Like as if posting these videos is a type of study on all of us ya know? Does that sound crazy? I always wonder if I’m the only one who thinks this ?
I heard Jeff is actually stuck in a timeloop and to this day is just repeatedly going back and forth to his cell, then back up to the interrogation room for a can of coke. Tudududu tudududu tudududu...
Hmmmm, I don't see the interview genius in Jeff that most others see here. He's just another drug user who's been in that seat loads of times and isn't moved one way or the other about being banged up.
I think that in order for us to feel morally justified in rooting for the antihero, the antihero must standoff against a villain that is more morally reprehensible than himself.
kes 782020-07-01 08:00:07 (edited 2020-07-02 07:14:23 )
I was a heroin addict for 4 years and my father was a lawyer and basically told me if I was ever arrested to ask for a lawyer and say nothing else because he considered the police the biggest gang in the world. Jeff played this perfectly I hope he's found his way without heroin.
@Sheryl Ferraro This is true. Legally, they should stop questioning and only question him with his attorney present. With a good attorney, they could get everything he said after he asked for an attorney admissible in court.
Nothing wrong with taking the (suspected) criminal's side. Not everyone who ends up in a room with a police interrogator is guilty. The only crime he admits to here is repeated use of illegal drugs, which we all know makes him more likely to be involved in more crimes, but thank goodness we don't (or do, but shouldn't?) imprison people a priori based on statistics.
@spacekeeper: Gonna be a prick (ha!) and say that the "suspected" shouldn't be in brackets! Being suspected and/or asking for a lawyer shouldn't count as evidence that you're actually a criminal (at least for the crime in question!)
@Riley Hunter not exactly. If what you were saying were true, as applied to a situation like this video, then as soon as someone asks for an attorney the police could never again ask them any questions about this case for the rest of their life. When someone asks for an attorney, that doesn't mean that the police are never allowed to ask questions again.
There are some time skips in the video that you may not have noticed. If the police stop the interrogation and then initiate a separate interrogation at a later time, that's fine (especially if they mirandize them again, which you'll notice they do). The period of time that needs to exist in between conversations for them to be considered separate interrogations is debatable and not well defined. It can't be 10 seconds, but it doesn't necessarily need to be hours.
And the suspect does not have to have seen their attorney in between an interrogation session where they ask for one and a separate interrogation session, either. Any information that a suspect freely communicates with police at any time can be used in court, even if it is immediately after invoking their Miranda rights.
@Sheryl Ferraro Just for that single interrogation session. When someone asks for an attorney, that doesn't mean that the police are never allowed to ask questions without an attorney present again for the rest of the subject's life.
There are some time skips in the video that you may not have noticed. If the police stop the interrogation and then initiate a separate interrogation at a later time, that's fine (especially if they mirandize them again, which you'll notice they do). The period of time that needs to exist in between conversations for them to be considered separate interrogations is debatable and not well defined. It can't be 10 seconds, but it doesn't necessarily need to be hours.
And the suspect does not have to have seen their attorney in between an interrogation session where they ask for one and a separate interrogation session, either. Any information that a suspect freely communicates with police at any time can be used in court, even if it is immediately after invoking their Miranda rights.
@Sheryl Ferraro It varies from county to county. In Minneapolis for example, if someone decides to use their right to silence or asks for an attorney, the investigator can continue to ask questions as long as they are still actively working on getting an attorney.
That's exactly how they do it and the fact that he's in withdrawal and locked in that tiny room is extra shitty. It's bs that detectives are allowed to do whatever the heck they want.
This man has yet to be sentenced to a crime and he is innocent until proven guilty (I'm pretty sure he later was) but you should probably think about being on his side until he's sentenced to a crime
I genuinely believe that interrogators are either the best, or the worst human beings. When they're pushing a serial killer towards confessing it is great, but when they try and push a vulnerable being, with a bad past, as well as being addicted to heroin to confessing to a crime he did not commit, it is sad. It makes me think that either way they will attempt to get a confession, instead of getting the truth. I also genuinely think that "Jeff" is intelligent, at least above average by a few points, he is just in a bad spot, and has been for many years.
I believe not telling them the evidence is a tactic to both avoid giving the suspect any idea of how much the police know, as well as to see if the suspects slip up and either blatantly lie as well as see if they give information that only the cops, the victim, and the perpetrator know. But don't quote me on that
So you're watching this and everything is normal. Then "You the good cop?" "No, normally I'm the prick" "You look like a prick" Yeah we gotta good'um folks
please I can't be the only one who instantly thought about the tiktok sound: " i was a sprinkles guy when i was younger" - "yeah you look like a sprinkles guy" - "what the hell is that supposed to mean? ".
@thiccybapbap yes it would; there are two cops, he would use 'the' to Differentiate between the 'good cop' and the bad cop who looks like a prick; and 'a' if there was just one cop.
@thiccybapbap I agree with Justin here, definitely said "you look like the prick". Just because the narrator wrote "you look like a prick" doesn't mean it's right.
Ask a previous addict to the same stuff, I can 100% honestly say, every single addict I’ve ever met has the ability of a smooth talking for many reasons, negotiating, getting money, getting what they want / need in general. If addicts put 30% of their efforts from drugs to productive things in life, they would hands down run this world.
@Toph mcgoph My dad is a heroin addict in recovery and I can confirm their smooth talking is out of this world, my dad talked himself out of getting arrested 3 times ._.
Glen Slaven thank you, it’s never easy beating the things like that, willpower and support is where it’s at. I just hope everyone in their life gets to enjoy the small things in the world that addiction strips away from us.
bubblezz absolutely, I would make the argument that addicts of all types are able to think quicker on their feet due to self preservation. Many people who have never experience addiction like that can’t understand the enormous effect that self preservation can have on someone’s abilities....I do hope and wish for the best on your dad, seen to many people fall to addiction and heroin is the most evil product on the street and hope he is able to get clean to enjoy watching his children / grand children grow...
christopher pinckard thank you kindly for the nice words ;_ ; It’s hard watching him struggle to keep his head above water. Especially when he cried in my arms about how the drug takes over your life. I’m glad you got back on your feet because I know it truly does take a lot to recover from that state. I hope you’re living well !!
@Toph mcgoph its simple, they want the shit so bad, so extremely, that they will deploy an excessive amount of energy and smartness to get it, and they are used to do that.
Most people dont want anything that much, but if they do, they will endure a lot of effort too to get it.
you can be smart and clever and homeless, all at the same time. you can be rich and stupid and have a high school education. non of those achievements and or personal characteristics have a hard correlation.
@Ozymandias Ben Dover No, they will hold you on a 5150 and do a mental evaluation on you to affirm that you do understand. If you do, then they will show you are sane and back to jail with your ass. I can guarantee these guys commenting have never been arrested, because they would know that.
G C You clearly don’t know the legal meaning of the word ‘understand’ or why he’s asking it.
Very often cops will give away the process. I’m in the UK, but I can very easily figure out that if the cop says “A verbal response, that’s all I need” he’s betrayed the fact that he’s attempting to contract with Jeff. When Jeff changes “No” into “Yeah”, he’s acquiesced, he’s contracting with the cop. But that’s just the intro. Much worse is the subtext which is unspoken: he’s agreeing to stand under his authority.
Now the cop has him. Next, the cop attempts to gather evidence in the form of testimony which the cop intends to refute in court - which WILL convict him, even if there is no real evidence. My guess is he’s going down. I’m at 12:30.
Why do you believe you have the right to dictate how others use this website? Do you own it? Do you possess some proprietary control over it? Have you got some sort of complex you feel like telling us about? This is a safe place. We are good listeners.
@gogglespisano24 5150 from what I see in most states just gives the police the right to send you to a psychic ward for a 72hour hold, perhaps then to be questioned again depending on evaluation. Which they probably could have some influence on?
We all understand the words, but I don't think anyone rly understands them when the way they're used fluctuates drastically. It almost seems like they don't matter, and he knows that.
@Lorenzo Bandinelli im not an english native but im good enough. not only prick is a ~synonym for bully, but also prick is an insult. So thats why it was funny.
Kind of funny how well Jeff uses his hands/teeth to open the soda, grab a tissue, etc. Like it's the thing he's the most used to doing. Guy's been around the block, that's for sure.
I used to open sodas like that when I was younger. Glad I stopped, for my teeth’s sake. Also don’t want people thinking I’ve been around the block more than once 🤓
Or, only because he did use drugs and was previously arrested, he became smarter about how police conduct interrogations. He’s smarter for his failings. He wouldn’t necessarily be “good in his life” if he hadn’t gone down this road.
@Server Error Please Try Again I think so, it clearly shows that down this road in life he can still learn and has wisdom from what he's learned. There's criminals out there that are absolute morons. He definitely could have kept learning and growing in a positive way if life didn't shit on him.
many successful people and mediocre people have done well in life, while drugs have been part of their lives. Look at all the prescriptions around the world which are opiod based.!!!
@Mark McCue so you think being a heroin addict and making snarky remarks to police is a success? Who gives an f about being famous. I used to be a heroin addict, I used to make the snarky comments it's nothing to be proud of.
@yunus y , No I don’t think very many people have gone through that and later became successful. Drugs destroy people. People using drugs make very poor decisions because their judgement is so negatively affected. Generally, people that demonstrate such poor judgement that it’s documented by multiple arrests and convictions are not trusted to hold positions that lead to success. Can you list some people that escaped drug use and later succeeded, sure. However, the vast majority remain unsuccessful the rest of their life, however shortened that may be from drug use.
@Server Error Please Try Again That isnt what I'm saying. You said he sounded smart because he has gone through the same procedure once. I'm saying rich people go through the same path of trying to be rich, to actually become rich. Rich people dont become rich with their first try in general.
we are selective whom we chose to forgive or root for ....could be shared culture, race, personality etc....regardless, he is no likable anti-hero. no one knows wha he has done to get his heroine or crack or meth. taxpayer is footing the bills.
@Fat Leonard I also know from myself that people with a very busy brain (even add/adhd) also use drugs a lot to normalize the brain. I myself got add, after a cigarette, or a bit of hash or alcohol, is the only time my brain feels normal.
@millsbomb007 yeah not many people popping percs or zannies are doing that great trust me... speed heads might have money but they hate themselves and that lifestyle too
@Jeffrey Pearson i am not sure his record but in the video it tells at the 2min mark that he has been through the system many times over and also that his sentence would be higher because of his other convictions
@Jeffrey Pearson everyone has a chance at a future.. just as everyone can lose it all.. i just get so tired of people having multiple convictions and over and over again getting a tap on the wrist.. if nothing else some jail or prison time would have helped giving him a chance to figure life out and have some sober time and a new outlook on life
Man, Jeff's been on heroin for 14 years, looks like he's in his thirties and still has the wherewithal to deal with this while going through withdrawal. Jeff needs a supportive, reliable rehab program and help finding a life and a vocation he cares about and that care about him.
topophil lmao have you ever been around a heroin addict who’s ACTUALLY too far gone? this guy is doing as good as someone can do for having woken up in jail dope sick. definitely not too far gone.
Yeah, he could do amazing things he’s obviously smart. It’s sad to see Jeff tell the police he’s been addicted to heroin for a long time and is going through withdrawals and them not even acknowledge what he said. Imagine if instead of releasing him 12 hours later because they couldn’t get any info from him, they actually tried to help him.
Here's hoping he can focus his talents in healthier pursuits. Even with rehabilitation and a solid support system that's one hell of a monkey to get off his back. I've been clean a couple years now, my experience was child's play compared to his, and it's still a struggle in many ways. I wouldn't wish heroin addiction on my worst enemy.
@Miranda M Congrats on getting clean. I'm on the way out of Suboxone treatment. Mainly because it's manifested similar problems as heroin use did. It just took longer. I've actually managed to get down to 2mg strips. But most of the people there are using their RX + buying suboxone off the street. You would LITERALLY be better off giving people actual heroin than Bupe. But I often say those same words- I wouldn't wish opiate or benzo addiction on anyone.
@Miranda M Neither would I, I had 7 years on it and its a horrible situation by the last couple years. Get up usually in mild WDs, Lie/Steal etc. and then pray that your connects got. Risk jail by going to collect. If IVng risk an OD and get high for about an hour and then feel normal for the next four usually until you nod off at night. Wake up in the morning and repeat. Thanfully im clean 371 days now and would not wish that life on anyone. Congratulations on your continutal soberity.❤❤
we have a Ridgewood one in Saint John N.B. and it is a joke no wonder I can not get help! I sen these shows helping ppl get clean in these beautiful places u can go outside 20 years using 50 not much longer
@Angela Blanchard Im sorry about your situation but ultimately it comes down to the willingness and remaining inner strength of the addict to say "Im done" . The beauty of a rehab facilty does not determine whether you will get clean, you do. A lot of these places are actually scams just interested in taking desperate people's money. Can you get on substitution therapy (MMT/Suboxone) and use that to hold you until you get a bed? Sorry if I read your reply wrongly, just trying to help.
Cameron Foster Exactly, as a dual major Business Management and Psychology major, an addict who no longer uses, and a dealer who no longer deals. Real criminals and cops have the same psych profile, and yes if you have the talent or insane experiences like I’ve been through you can psycho analyze people by watching them. This guy is very intelligent and I can tell he would be a great guy and could learn to do anything and I mean that in my professional opinion. My methods are not the typical I guess you could say. True, People don’t give a fuck because we think people are disposable. People who go to church on Sunday and cops are terrible for this and I say this as a Christian. Drug laws are the dumbest things in the world but I won’t start on that. If anything comes from this post, remember not to judge because Jeff sins differently than you. Also I can’t get a job because of a misdemeanor in TN, I do run my own business though!
Jeff looks and acts like a maintainer. Someone who just takes enough to get thru the day. Especially after the way he responded with "a long time buddy..."
eliza washington There is rehabilitation in the jail and prison system. The problem is that when some addicted individuals leave a controlled environment and they are returned to the environment that gave them access to the drugs, they are back to their old habits. Many find “Christ” and sobriety in prison, but leave the teachings behind the bars.
Bro this is the USA, the system doesn't give 2 f*cks about addiction. Just treat it as criminal and throw em in prison then (big surprise) they keep doing drugs, re offend and get put back in
@Daniel Doran True. But he is past the point he can manage it. He needs a long term methadone inpatient program based on psychopharmacology, cognitive behavioral therapy, and behavioral change science (ie not the old school "break you down" and force you to spout bs from unscientific 12 step mtgs- tho its fine to choose to attend them if the comradery helps you, just like its fine to attend church if it helps you)
@sarah Help how? Should they have taken him home and sat with him for days while he went through withdrawals? Should they have paid the thousands of dollars for rehab?? Get him some heroin? Tell me how.
@Miranda M I say that every waking day. I wouldnt wish heroin on my worst enemies. I was clean 3 days, then 5, then 14, then another 14. Today I am 2 days off of heroin. Some days I feel like I can conquer the world, most days I feel like I am a slave to my own anxiety and negative thoughts. I have a long way to go. But I am optimistic. I havent been able to say that honestly for years. I am optimistic.
@Lafayette Moore Two days is still an accomplishment, and you should be proud of yourself because it's not easy to get there. I went to medical detox for a week and went on buprenorphine for six months to get through the worst of withdrawal and PAWS. I swear it saved my life - especially medical detox. I reccomend finding the right one for you as some take different pharmaceutical approaches. But the fact you want to get clean and are actively trying is such a great start!! Just know you don't have to do it alone or uncomfortably. Alot of facilities are great about working with anxiety/panic disorders and can provide great resources (12 step or not) to work on your mental health after detox. I'm rooting for you! Keep up the good work and keep the drive to follow through.
@Miranda M congratulations on your sobriety!! I'm 1 year and 8 and a half months. I really do feel for this guy. I was hoping to look through the comments and find someone who knows him and knows what has happened with him. Heroin really is the worst addiction. (in my experience) I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy either.
@sarah itd be better if they didnt acknowledge him. They held methadone out there like a reward if he talkeed. I once told a booking officer id be soon withdrawing from heroin and methadone and he laughed at me and said, "Well good luck with that. Now get the fuck out of my face."
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Miranda M2020-08-27 07:41:56 (edited 2020-08-27 07:44:42 )
@Angela Blanchard I understand some facilities are not well maintained or tend to treat patients like criminals even when they're there voluntarily, however most aren't California beach homes with massage therapy and horseback riding. There are so many facilities that provide great care, counseling, and accommodations to addicts that can help you and work with state funded programs to provide financial support. State Healthcare put me through medical detox, paid for my meds, and offered a 30 day inpatient stay at the top rehabilitation center in the state. You have options girl.
@Lafayette Moore Congratulations. At the time I write this I'm praying you've got your first seven days behind you. If not, don't beat yourself up please. We are human beings who suffer from a recognised illness so don't see a relapse as a failing on your part. I know it's so hard I've been there so many times saying "this is the last time" but you CAN do it. Praying for you.
@Bill A An honest cop would be disgusted by your lack of respect for the honest work they do. A dirty cop that tells the truth would say they'd plant it.
I’m stocking the comments because I can’t access my account that is in the description SO…..YES that very much makes me conceded (spelling questionable on my part)
@JD exactley, I get the incorrect spelling confused with the correct spelling. Then I get those 2 confused with the homophpne and its incorrect spelling.
Long story short, me and the written english language have been long term adversaries. But a great deal of that has to do with the fact that I am more often than not completely and utterly wasted when I write these replies (as is the case in this instance).
@Jacob Hargiss Nah man, don't put yourself down like that. If having issues with the English language bothers you, you can simply study and get better at it. The fact that a person isn't an expert on any particular subject doesn't make them an idiot at all 🙂
Jacob Hargiss2021-06-08 04:15:34 (edited 2021-06-08 04:18:01 )
@Fabiana Moura im not really putting myself down, Im just being honest. I make dumb mistakes and act like an idiot some times. Sometimes its because I dont pay enough attention to what Im doing, other times its because I choose to do things that I am in no condition to do (such as writting a reply when Im not all there). I try to be honest with myself and others and when I make mistakes that are easily avoidable I try to hold myself accountable so I have an opportunity to learn.
And its not the spelling mistake that makes me know I was being an idiot, but that I was arrogant enough not to look over my work before submitting it. I know mistakes happen, but only a fool trusts themselves enough not to double check, and thats exactly what I did.
@Jacob Hargiss I understand, but still, that doesn't give people the right to cyberbully. And don't worry too much about your mistakes. Even if you make them again and again, one day little by little you'll learn with them and be able to be more aware of what you should and shouldn't do/say. I wish you the best of luck 😊
Once a person says, "I want a lawyer", that should be the end of the interview. I live in a country which not only "reads" people their rights but also respects those rights, regardless of what crime someone's been arrested for.
Once you've said you want the lawyer, it's not like his rights are being violated by not having a lawyer magically appear five seconds later -- it's just his statements stop being admissible until the lawyer shows up.
Man you gotta love this guy. I hope and pray he gets clean and has a successful life. He actually sounds like just a good old boy on heroin. The cops actually appear stupid in the video. They also show how dishonest they are in pushing for a confession from someone who has repeatedly asked for a lawyer which they didn't provide but rather kept reading his miranda rights and got mad when he chose to be silent. This was better than a movie.
@Km Fox Yes, and when that clip is incorporated into some cop show or movie, he’ll be made to look like he admitted guilt because he exercised his civil rights and asked for the lawyer he’s entitled to
You can tell from across the atlantic that this guy isn't proud of anything in his life. He has given up, he has accepted his belief that he's beyond help and just wants to be left alone until he dies from his habits. He's most likely a lovely dude to be around when he's not out of heroin and needs to find ways to get more, and he's fully aware that he's a failure.
This guy doesn't want to be this way, he wants to be normal but knows/believes he can't, so what's the point of even trying?
@The Lea I always find it ironic how most people tend to give the benefit of the doubt towards addicts as to the type of people they were/are/can be if they weren't addicts that are currently using. I don't know if it's due to being just a common sentiment, or if it's because such low-lifes when they're using, that it's just assumed that they can't be any worse, or other reasons. I say this from personal experience that while it's true that most people who are actively on a run, they're SO beyond what's acceptable behavior, then when they do get clean they're MUCH better people than they are while they're using, but i know a lot of addicts, both recovering, long term recovered, or actively using that were assholes before they started, and went back to being one after. I also think there comes a point that no matter how good of a person someone may have been before, they've been using and acting like addicts for so long, that they're just not that person anyone and never will be, regardless of getting clean.
Im not directing this towards the commenter specifically, it just happens to be that 1 out of countless that make the same assertion. I will point out however that i think (and believe many others who have firsthand experience with it), that often times the particular drug that someone gets addicted to can suggest the type of personality they are. This is a very general statement, but people who get addicted to heroine or other opioids are different people than those who have cocaine issues. It's also quite common that MANY opioid addicts tend to not drink. Most of the opioid addicts i know, including myself, don't drink at all. However drinking tends to turn into an issue after giving up heroine or opioids (fortunately, after 12-13 years, i still probably consume a bottle of wine every 2 years, if that). I believe that MANY of those people either use, or started using, as self-medicating. I think that someone can have substance abuse issues that are mostly self-medication, and that they don't really match with the current definition of "addict." These are the people who can have ravenous addictions for years, but at some point make an active attempt to get clean, and are able too more successfully. I consumed copious amounts opioids for several years. When i finally said i had enough, i went to a detox, then upon getting out i sought out treatment. I didn't go into rehab, i went on Suboxone and therapy. That was it, that was way over q decade ago. While i won't say that i never took anything recreationally in that time, i will say that my addiction was never the problem that it had been. The way it went for me is FAR from how it normally goes. I know people who've been in detox over 100 times, and been to in-patient rehab dozens of times and still are using. The fact that it took only once for me leads me to believe that while from the outside, and to myself, i was an addict in the clinical sense, in reality it was something else
Perhaps because of the way he is framed in this youtube video. If you are introduced to the same person after it seems obvious he murdered a child while breaking in your feelings might be different.
If I show you an black and white picture of a man and tell you he is a nazi than you will probably find his eyes devilish, if i instead told you he was a resistance member who saved many people from the nazis you would probably say that he has heroic angelic features.
This phenomenon is very important for people to know because it helps them to judge people better (or not to judge) at all.
I'm trying to understand what you mean with your response. You don't understand what I mean? You admit it but don't like this fact?
@Wouter Kulche This observation just seems extremely obvious to me, of course you would look at someone differently based on what you know they've done, sorry I should have used /s.
@Connie Harrison You can judge him on his decisions but you don't know his circumstance.. The intelligence that is displayed here is the accurate judgement of social situations and psychological fortitude, you can be a good guy all your life and not be "smart" like Jeff.
Soooo, it's legal to badger a prisoner for 12 hours, that has repeatedly stated "nothing to say" without legal representation, during a interrogation? Don't talk to cops.
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Alan Falleur2020-07-01 23:25:48 (edited 2020-07-01 23:27:47 )
24 hours for most crimes, 36 to 96 for more serious crimes. Time is on the suspect's side, not the police's side, which is why they do everything they can to lock it down while they have the narrow window. If they really had all the time in the world like they want to make it seem, they wouldn't be hanging on the bell wanting to talk day and night with the suspect.
Yeah, and pretend to be "good guys" that brought him a coke after sitting there 5 hr... or offer a butterfinger for talking. "Well give you a butter finger if you convict yourself" WHAT
Ya havent heard enough stories or seen alot of cases. Also, whats acceptable for them to do during an integration varies from state to state, hell even county to county.
This police are not the enemy here, jeff, i guess has been comitting crime to fund his habit for years, like i did. Heroin habit needs money and people like me cause mayhem for the police, its not personal, i found the police in the uk to be more than fair
You can tell he's talked at other points in his life and they used it against him. That's why you don't talk to the police without a lawyer. Just tell them you want a lawyer and then remain silent. The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the police can lie to you anytime they want to. And they do lie. Ever been pulled over for a traffic stop and the cop starts saying things like, "Where you comin' from?" or "Where you goin'?" or "What are you up to?" They want to start a conversation with you so you will slip up and tell them something. But the law is very strict on what the cops can and can't do so stand up for your rights. If you don't use them you lose them. This poor guy is in heroin withdrawl but he still stands up for his rights. I've been around people kicking heroin and he is about to go into terrible pain and agony and he knows it. But he still stands up for his rights.
Well the second sentence in Miranda rights to anyone with a brain says anything you tell them not just can but WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU! There’s a reason it’s worded like that
Nothing wrong with a bit of heroin every now and then.. it's the best buzz of everything out there.. Infact, I'm gonna go get some now soon as dealer gets back to me.. it's my day off, why not?
@aaronwallerj Bc once your body needs it you're screwed. Your body can get physically dependent on heroin after just one dose. If you're not already dependent on it, you will be soon. If you want a buzz on your day off take some kratom or something. Seriously, you can use it daily without serious problems. It's not great for you but it's infinitely better than heroin. 42 kids I went to high school with have died of OD's since I graduated. Nearly all of them were "part time users". All of them were experienced with other drugs and they all thought they had it under control. One of them told me "I just need to get this out of my system, I won't be doing this when I'm older." He died a year later. Another one told me "gotta try everything once before you die". He died a few weeks later. Nearly all of them came from good families. Nearly all of them could have gone to rehab. All of them lived in one of the nicest towns in the US with all the available resources necessary to help them beat addiction. But not one of them did. Don't let it get that far. If you want a little buzz take kratom or literally any other drug besides heroin or you will end up an addict.
@Falling Petunias I was pulled over for going 70 when I was going 15 under that. Went to court and the cop never showed up - he was just trying to bully someone else into a ticket. What am I gonna do in the moment, tell him I wasn't going 70? It's stupid to argue, but cops are there to screw you over a lot of the time. Not to say they don't do good work.
Cenk Zappa ~You cannot get addicted trying heroin a single time. That’s just the stupidest thing ever. It’s true you don’t need to do it daily to become addicted; it’s a called a chippie habit. If you do it say, every two weeks, you will eventually need it every two weeks. I’d wager that most of the deaths your talking about were from heroin laced will fentanyl. Fentanyl is the real culprit. It’s a cheap way to boost the strength, but it’s strong as fuck and people don’t realize just how strong.
They never want you to just come in and talk. You could be telling your story then it's too late before you realize they're pinning this on you no matter what
Absolutely never talk to police. You’re a name on a paper, and the second you walk into that prison, they’ll never give a thought to your life again. They can have a lazy day, and they can have an ulterior motive, like covering for another buddy cop, and they can manipulate you into doing whatever they want. Demand a lawyer. End of conversation.
Leopard Boas even if you're innocent you shouldn't talk to police. They will twist their questions and have you incriminate yourself unknowingly and when you try to change your answer during a trial and say you were confused at the question, they will bring up the interview and say, "well you never said you were confused in the interview, so you're lying." This has been done many times over.
@Leopard Boas Lol, because the world is totally binary. By that logic, if I choose not to talk to police, does that automatically mean that I've got something to hide?
it's an interrogation technique where they make it seem as if they evidence, in most cases a lot of it, in the hopes that you'll confess for the crime.
@man iPreferChicken Yeah, they're usually gunning for a confession because they don't have enough evidence to convict on that, alone. Jeff seems to know this.
@heres johnny police don't have to be truthful when obtaining evidence relative to a case, they use lies an disinformation all the time if they think it'll help the case. For example: "we can prosecute you for obstructing an officer in his line of investigation" when you won't give them any personal details or the code to unlock your phone is one I've had thrown at me, they can't prosecute on those grounds.
Better to stay in there if you’re Jeff. Unless he knows for a fact he can score dope in lockup he’s better off starting withdrawal in that room . Get to drink some coke and candy, go from there.
@bernier alexandre you either didn’t mean to respond to me or misunderstood what I wrote. I have been in Jeff’s shoes to the extent of suffering from withdrawal, several times. If given the choice between an interrogation room and a cell, there’s no debate which I’m taking and I believe Jeff felt the same. It’s hard to suffer those symptoms at a damn rehab facility
@Kutsuro God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!) 🥰🤍
He can ask for a lawyer and they can still interrogate him until one shows up he just doesn’t have to respond. It’s a stupid rule but America is stupid so lol
@emma "just an addict", let's not talk about jeff in particular but being an addict doesn't justify crimes. idk whether jeff did it or not but he did commit crimes before, the guy is a criminal. can you forgive him? probably. if the crimes were more serious and against you, would you be able to forgive him? probably not. don't be a hero when it doesn't involve you.
I got a better Idea. Why don't they stop with the war on drugs bull shit and put a stop to 99% of the problem. allow them to just buy pharmaceutical grade morphine or hydromorphone (morphine is 1/2 as potent as heroin and hydromorphone is 1.5-2 times as potent as heroin, roughly). At the pharmacy level morphine is roughly 20-25$ per 50mg/20ml vial. So each vial contains 1 gram of IV morphine in solution for 20-25$ without insurance. I'm not up on black market prices but I strongly suspect it isn't anywhere near 20$ a gram (or 40$ a gram if you figure they need to buy twice as much morphine as they would heroin). Hydromorphone is less common so harder to price but I suspect it would be similar. If the addict can maintain his addiction with a Mcdonalds income then there is no need for him to make failed robbery attempts, and it saves the rest of us the cost of putting him in jail.
And if they can buy it from legit sources then suddenly the dealers and smugglers lose all of that income and go out of business (or more likely kill each other and thin out the competition as they switch to alternative business models).
This has the added benefit of not constantly making life harder and harder on chronic pain patients who constantly have to deal with proving that really, no really, they are not addicts multiple times a year (they actually have to take a pee test to make sure they have the drug in their system. how upside down is that?!).
@Kim Hoge that depends entirely on how much you're using and how much you've fucked up your body. It is 100% to die from heroin withdrawal or any other opiate withdrawal. Dehydration, elevated blood sodium levels, heart failure. The way these cops and alot of "health care professionals" treat people, especially addicts, means they could've left him in the cell and he could've died. Considering he's probably stealing to fund his habit means he could be doing enough to have those complications if left alone without supervision or help but I don't think he's dead or even on drugs today. You can die from alot of stupid shit and alot of shit that shouldn't be deadly tho
@Turbo Cateye you think stealing to fund his habit means that he's doing enough to die from overdose? Farrrrr from it. You'll get dope sick as fuck, but heroin withdraw itsself will not kill you.
This guy's right out of a movie. "You playing the good cop?" 'no, I'm usually the prick.' "Yeah you look like a prick." I don't think a veteran screen writer could be write better dialog.
You can die from your body shutting down and severe dehydration CAUSED by opiate withdrawal. You can die from cold turkey withdrawal, hence the methadone usage. Side note, the guy going thru "multiple ones" should totally be the credited; clearly cleaned system to have multiple go's (unless a helper position, but it reads as you've gone thru em). Dude has 10+ years of use and you think you can just stop, be sick a few days and be fine? Study the change of body and brain due to chemical usage, maybe? Safe wishes and just dont do it (or the rx route)
@AvgDude even career addicts don't do 2k worth of dope a day. People with severe heroin addictions have described purchasing 10 to 15 bags of the drug per day. the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) reported the average price of heroin in the U.S. was $152 per gram (which is usually divided into 20 bags). So ballpark around 500 a week
@cracker gaming Hey you never know! You would’ve probably said the same thing about me a year ago but here I am alive, well and sober and amazing things are happening in my life that I never thought would be possible.
@Kim Hoge actually recent studies have found you can die from heroin withdrawal. It causes serious heart problems. Due to the stress, adrenaline and more. It rare but it's been basically proven possible.
@Tony Momom what crime did he commit? You don't know his life? Besides some laws are ridiculous and innocent people go to jail all the time. Stop being so damn judgemental. Who cares if someone is a "criminal". In one state someone can go to jail for pot and be a criminal while in another state it's not criminal. Being a "criminal" doesn't necessarily make you a bad person. Our justice system is whack.
He has a house, a youtube channel, makes music, not sure about being clean tho, but seems like it. It seems like our antihero, at last, has got his life back on rails.
@emma while addiction hasn't been an issue in my day to day life for 12-13 years, but still remembers it and knows people who still are, i feel that it needs to be said that the idea of someone being a bad person or low life and/or being an addict are not mutually exclusive. There are many people that were world class a-holes before they were addicts, and many who remain them long after recovery. Beyond that, when people are living as addicts, many of them really are terrible, and do terrible things. The question as to "why" they're doing really only matters to them. If your house is robbed or you get mugged at knife point (or dirty needle point, which tends to happen to people working in liquor or convenience stores), the life story of the person robbing you really matters very little. If someone was a decent person before they became addicts, but have spent the last 15 years doing the shitty things that addicts do; are they still decent people who are suffering from addiction? Maybe that's a question best left to philosophers, but there HAS to come a point when what you do is all that matters, and what resides in your heart really only matters to your mother and maybe Jesus if you believe in it.
On his YouTube channel he posted a video about suboxone so hopefully he’s doing well. I know some people say it’s just trading one addiction for another, but it saved my life & many others. Not having to stick myself with a needle is a huge plus too. To some addicts, the needle becomes an addiction on its own.
@Kim Hoge I think it’s extremely rare to die from opioid withdrawal ,however it can lead to death.A young man from my old neighborhood ended up in jail on theft charges,the copper looked in his cell and the young man was convulsing then went unresponsive,so he was hit twice with narcan (thinking he overdosed).only he was in severe heroin withdrawals and his heart gave out.
Relapse is the ONLY way to od from heroin withdraw... Someone relapses because the symptoms of their withdrawal are too much to deal with. But it’s usually someone who’s been clean for long enough to lose their tolerance that relapses and tries to shoot the same size shot they use to do in active addiction that od.
@Tony Momom have you j walked before? Have you sped over the limit? Wam bam you’re a criminal son. We should judge you with the same level of callousness you want to judge “criminals.”
@bp968 you just said it was $25 per 50mg, which is really expensive. Probably a lot cheaper because oral morphine on the black market is cheaper. I know you were talking IV vials but 50mg is not going to get a heroin addict high or even stop their withdrawal for a while.
@Adora your math is wrong. Medical grade IV medications are packaged as X-mg per ML. So like i said in my comment, thats a gram for 20-25$. each ML contains 50mg and the vial contains 20ml of solution. Remember, milligram (mg) is a different measurement than milliliter (ml).
@Kim Hoge You can die from dehydration though, from all the puking and diarrhea. Some also go through a significant cardiac event and others may go through shock. Many people never seek medical attention due to fear of being arrested for illicit drug use and many more resort back to taking heroin to overcome the pain of it and end up overdosing. There are definitely real risks from withdrawal.
His best life? Or someone else's idea of his best life? I'm sure his idea of his best life is determined on the state of mind and/or location he is in. I just hope he stays out of trouble, or well stops being in the wrong place at the wrong time 🤣
@bp968 I am on pain management and not only do we have to do a drug test usually once a month, but every two weeks they do pill counts. If you forget your meds at home, I’ve done it once, they make you reschedule, don’t give you a prescription, and you usually have to wait 2-4 weeks for a new appointment so they can count your meds.. it’s fucking wild..
@Tony Momom ''if the crimes were more serious and against you, would you be able to forgive him? probably not.'' lol, you can stop projecting your moral condescension on everyone else at any time
@Kim Hoge By that same logic you can't die from benzo withdrawals, you die from the seizures they cause. Pretty sure "withdrawal" is never the official cause of death; it's dehydration, organ failure, or whatever specific thing killed them.
So yes, generally speaking of course you can die from heroin withdrawal. It's MUCH less likely than dying from benzo or alcohol w/d, but it is possible - especially if you have other health conditions. There have been several cases of heroin addicts dying in jail from withdrawals that I've read about.
Same here. My best wishes go out to Jeff with regards to how things ended up. Addiction, especially when addicted to down, is a rough ride and getting clean is sooo worth it.
@Lua no by science you can die from benzo withdrawal. By science you can't die from heroin withdrawal. Maybe a stroke like you said but not the withdrawal itself.
We value Anti-heros because they reveal the absurdity of life around us. Jeff clearly knows his rights, but the process is held up because he refuses to say so. Contrast this with videos of naive, innocent, well-meaning getting sucked into charges for crimes they didn't commit. The absurdity is always there... the Jeff's of the world help us see it.
How does someone telling the truth get them charged with crimes they didn't commit? Couldn't remaining silent also run that risk, if they have a perfectly good explanation? I know someone convicted of a crime for the latter reason. FWIW I am an attorney, just playing devil's advocate.
@J D Police can trick you into saying something true, but that sounds incriminating. Like implying someone was shot without saying so explicitly, then if you say "I didn't shoot anyone" they can take that into court like "the client seemed to have prior knowledge". Or a cop misremembering that they mentioned to you prior some fact, you bring up that fact in later questioning, and they use that statement as evidence of prior knowledge. Or some part of your truthful statement could be contradicted by a credible witness with a false statement that the witness believes to be true. Or your best memory and explanation could be false in some way that can be proven false by police, rendering your true statement not credible while also incriminating you.
@J D what you say to a detective CANNOT be used to exonerate you. Let that sink in... you tell the 100% truth, it matches sufficiently to the incorrect narrative they believe is true, and into jail you go. Don't take my word for it, I'm just repeating the advice of the US Supreme Court Justice and chief prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials Justice Jackson.
@niemand262 Above I told you about a case where I know someone was charged and convicted of a crime (trespassing) because he didn't give a simple explanation (he had consent). Most rules have exceptions.
@Siddharth Dash The witness box?! LOL. So pay for a lawyer and go through the system and hope things go your way at trial? Just to say the exact thing you could have said to police months before without a criminal record? Dumb. Innocent people should act differently than guilty people.
I think we like anti-heros because despite the awful things they do we can relate to them on multiple actions. We are them, we just didn't make the same choices.
yeah, when they start saying that u know they havent sh*t, if they really have evidence they dont say it at all. because then they need no confession, they allready have a case against U.
@iTheGeek if they have enough evidence the only thing that a confession will do is save time and the taxpayers money for the trial. Is it possible that a jury would find him not guilty, yes, but that would mean they had insufficient evidence or significant police or prosecutoral misconduct. Then again the investigators could very well be lying and they have zero obligation to be truthful to the suspect. Especially if there are multiple suspects invloved.
They will still talk to you even if they have pretty ironclad evidence. They are never really satisfied that they have enough because they know every jury trial is a roll of the dice. They want all they can get. Confessions, DNA, fingerprints, eye witnesses, etc. They want it all. But it is still true that oftentimes even if they have no evidence they will say they have a lot. It is one of their main tricks for drawing someone into talking.
As a nurse I have found the strangest of thing when it comes to addicts, when they come out of the withdrawal faze, they are usually the kindest and most polite people. It’s as if they are so sensitive they can’t handle this world and have found a way to cope through whatever substance they find themselves addicted to. This is not always the case, but 9 times out of 10 they are the most polite empathic patients I have. I try to never judge them. I don’t know what has happened in their life that has made them turn to drugs or alcohol but usually it’s something traumatic.
Your comment just hit me hard. I’ve struggled with addiction for years been in and out of jails institutions etc. as an addict compassion and empathy from outsiders looking in is so rare. So incredibly rare that an addict gets even a lick of kindness. Thank you for what you do. It means more than you know.
After you numb yaself with drugs for so long it dulls your emotions and once you get into withdrawal symptoms those emotions aren't smothered anymore and can be articulated in their natural way... I know because I am a addict
Not an addict but I can only imagine the suffering they are going through during withdrawal. I am sure the gratitude they feel for anyone willing to help or comfort them would be huge. My heart goes out to all those suffering from such an ugly disease
We need more people like you in this world. I am a former heroin addict and have been clean for over 6 years now. When I was in my worst state ever, pregnant and addicted, I checked myself into a hospital and simply walked in and said "im pregnant and addicted to heroin please help me". I cannot even begin to tell you how shocked they were but the kindest people ever helped me get through the toughest time of my life. The second I got out of the hospital, I got a cab (which the hospital paid for) to a rehab facility and was there for 90 days. I gave birth during the midst of my rehab stay and had to return back without my little girl. She went to my in laws until I got out of rehab. Now we live in a big house with a big backyard, my kids want for nothing and we make a lot of good decisions, money, and have the time and energy for two beautiful children. Our money goes to things they want and need as opposed to always looking out for that next fix. It's a sad world to be in the throes of addiction and I dont wish it upon anyone. But getting sober is possible. You just have to really really want it.
@Steve W I had to get on methadone to stop. And then taper, get on suboxone and then taper off that. There is no one that can say they are fine from heroin addiction after withdrawal with no medication. Medication is a must in my opinion but it comes with its own risks of abuse and addiction as well.
Madeline Harlow you are very perceptive. That is pretty much the reason most people in turn to drugs to cope. And it takes many of them years to understand...if we ever do! ;)
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Professor Kaos2020-07-02 14:39:01 (edited 2020-07-02 14:40:57 )
particularly with opioids, the reward system is rebounding after a long time of suppression. The brain becomes flooded naturally with more dopamine and serotonin and the first stage of what alcoholics anonymous terms "the pink cloud". You feel euphoric, sunlight feels better than ever, optimism and opportunities seem abundant being unshackled from the drug and you can feel much more connected and caring for others. Unfortunately, the brain balances out usually within 4 weeks or so after the end of acute withdrawal symptoms. Thats my guess about what you are experiencing more so than most addicts being to sensitive and caring for the harsh world around them although I'm sure that can be the case for some.
Thanks for this comment. My own father is a recovering alcoholic and he's done some horrible things while drunk out of his mind. But without it, he's the most sensitive, caring and kind person. My friends don't understand why I still love him and visit him despite all the nasty stuff that happened to me due to his alcoholism. It's because it's an illness and he's doing his best to beat it. People are so incredibly judgemental about addicts. I know I have all the right to be angry at him, but I'm just not. I love him.
My brother is a drug addict and has been for 35 years. We were both raised in the same home, same parents, and circumstances. Both of our parents are law abiding citizens and were decent parents. My brother is one of the smartest nicest people when he isn't on drugs. Sadly he will go back to them every time. So in his case there wasn't any tragic terrible thing that happened. He just fell into a bad crowd. I never touched a drug because I din't want to be anything like him.
This makes me think even more that they shouldn’t be put in prison. They should be treated as the same with mental illness. I don’t know why people hate their guts so much, but unless someone hurts another person, I’ll keep sympathizing.
As an man with empathy there is a line drawn when "addicted" people hold up people with a dirty syringe or rob someone else .And dont rack that up to the misfortune of someone whos been abused . Passing the abuse on IS wrong , and should be punished. And i dont trust the police and i have done drugs ....but im not "addicted" to anything except anger at addicts pleading addiction for abusing someone else.....crap ptooey!
Thank you for this. As a recovering heroin addict, it's really amazing to know that there are people out there like you who recognize that addicts are generally good people. Often, we are just self medicating and/or looking for ways to cope with a life that may have dealt us far more than our fair share of shitty hands. I can say this, because that's absolutely what I was doing, and it would be a lie to say that I don't still struggle with it sometimes.
Sweetheart, thats so nice what you said and so true, im off all substances now but i used heroin on childhood abuse, i was in pain and heroin is a painkiller, i just never knew this for years, off drugs i think im a really nice person in a sense of being kind thoughtful and having a good care for others, i love what you said and would give you a huge unconditional hug
Chandra Cox so tell us about the transition from methadone to suboxone please? Did You have to wait 4-5 days from your last methadone dose to take subs? I thought that you must be in the peak of withdrawals, thereby having no opioids attached to the mu-opioid receptors so that the sub could attach without kicking the methadone off and going into precipitated withdrawal. WHICH IS HARSH-
Think of narcan- For those who were heavily addicted and given narcan , withdrawal floods you so fast and intense. U go from pin point pupils to the size of a saucer.
Mac Giveyouflak u don’t sound very empathetic at all. A large portion of addicts work hard for their money and the only”crime” they commit is simple drug possession .
@Rob Banks I transitioned from methadone to suboxone within 48 hours of my last dose in a medical detox facility. When you hit full withdrawal, you'll know. That's the time to start the subs, however it is best to do in a facility under qualified medical supervision where they have a specific scale to go by (I cant remember the name of it, though) as precipitated withdrawal is dramatically worse than the standard acute symptoms of withdrawal.
As others noted, thank you for your compassion and empathy. In my experience as a person in recovery w a lot of interaction w docs & nurses, I've mostly gotten the cold shoulder. (Unless while at a place specifically meant to treat addiction, like a rehab.). Even as someone who has been clean and sober, I still get judged when I inform the medical staff that I am an addict and cannot take certain meds. I have seen it change the whole tenor of an appt. It means a lot to hear this from a nurse. So many people don't understand addiction, and they hate us for being addicts. It's been rough. I'm very grateful to be clean. I have a lot of compassion for what you all go through. Thank you for what you do, and thank you so much for understanding & for having a kind heart.
People that turn to drugs usually are really nice people that can't handle all the bad in this world, think of this the next time you see a " junkie " lying on the side of the street. Don't berate them, help them. Don't ever look down on someone unless you're giving them a hand to get up !!!
Madeline I have a lot to say on the topic but for now I’ll just say thank you. There is horror in our lives... everyones.... but mine has stopped me from everything I’ve ever tried to do. I had a big record deal, a very good band, and a beautiful girlfriend.... not anymore but I’m still trying. I really miss my dog the most. Here’s to second chances 😢 good luck guys...
@Psychic Truth! Much much less than their crimes!!!! Cost should be weighed on a much wider spectrum rather than just money???? How about pain, worry, rape and murder of female and male addicts? Treated like shit for the one mistake using I'm sure they pay dearly for. Sure enough myself. 9yrs clean. Methadone saved my life. 6 women alongside me died waiting on the same. Takes YRS to get. Everyone deserves an honest decent chance to get better. ✌️♥️💪🙏🏴
@Psychic Truth! Yup I was trafficked. Its real and every addict deserves the only chance to get better. Any doctor will confirm cold turkey can't and won't work. We'll done for pointing out the reality.
@David Campbell v narrow minded. My parents were police officers. Grandparent too. I took it drunk at a university party and was on the streets within 6months. Couldn't not take it the FOLLOWING DAY. Addiction knows no colour, class or morality. At 9yrs clean I ve a lovely hard working life. Brought about by MYSELF in the middle of nowhere with dirty cops like that treating me like shit thee whole time. Can't touch me now. Peace brother.
You sound like an amazing nurse!! After I was raped by my stepdad and got pregnant with my daughter, I started drinking to numb the pain. I have a big heart and am very empathetic. Your assessment is accurate from my vantage point.
I'm a neuro & I've had the exact same experience. Opioid addicts in particular tend to be the sweetest, people-pleasing, hyper-sensitive individuals. It's as if their natural state is to feel "raw" so that everything is too difficult to bear. "Being born 2 drinks behind" is a phrase we use when referring to people with anhedonia, which is a mild form of depression which is common among folks who are in recovery or have post-acute withdrawal syndrome.
Thank you for saying that it's so true. I had so much abuse my whole life I tried to take my own life many times. Then I got addicted to heroin because it killed my pain. But when I withdrawl it's so horrible and I cant focus and I'm not myself. You said it perfectly
@Keeks Bee theres nothing like withdrawl. It's hard to explain. I've been trying to get clean off heroin and in withdrawl I'd do anything if someone would just kill me. That's how bad it is :( but noone understands they think we are losers and dont deserve help. I got on heroin cuz of severe sexual, emotional and physical abuse from the time I was 14. I'm 38 now and been on heroin 3 years I wish I'd never done it but I wanted to die and did it thinking I'd overdose and die without pain. I didnt die tho and instead got addicted. Wish I could change it but I cant...
Andrew Olson For what? She is not excusing, she is explaining why she thinks most people turn to drugs. But, I know she may have used big words and spelling is probably hard for you. I hope I helped.
Is the 9 times out of 10 a personal static? Because I have absolutely seen way worse from someone coming down, and in the middle of being dope sick. They can definitely become unreliable, and psychosis is a real thing that sets in when one doesn't have their fix. So a breakdown can definitely happen, but there is a major difference between the ones who break down and flood emotions and truth, as opposed to the ones who clam up and want to fight back.
I am a drug addict and I would rather not say what kind of drugs I take, but under the influence I feel very tense and I can't bottle up my emotions anymore, I lose my inhibitions ans I am laser focus on getting my fix. This drug help me to vent my anger and frustrations on other people and that's why it makes me extremely violent. Sometimes I stalk people to hurt them, but I haven’t had the courage to actually approach them. Only one time I did it and the police caught me fast because I was in a frenzy. It wasn't a premeditated assault.
But what this drug does to is to distract my attention from my emptiness and the longing for intimacy. So, I agree with you when you say that when I am not under the influence I am a sensitive and gentle person. At least I try.
Been clean from opioids for 8 years after 10 years of addiction. Its a struggle. I sometimes believe there no such thing as forever sobriety after hard addiction except through death. Every addict ive know has relapsed. I know im one pill or sk from being "Jeff" again.
God bless Nurses, can't even imagine how is it like to be surrounded by sick people, and work with them. Hell of a job :) thank you, from an engineer in other side of the world.
Amen to that. You nailed it on the head. That's all I'm willing to disclose about what I went through and what I did about it but you are definitely right.
Thank you for your kindness. Had a parent with addiction. It's brutal. Often I couldn't respond with or feel empathy just sadness, anger, and hopelessness. Now as a parent I have more empathy for both of us and others who deal with addiction.
@Andrew Olson What would you say to cancer patients that were put on large doses of morphine on and off for a number of years? I know one - her 1st dose of oxy when she was only 7 yrs old. Drs gave her no chance for survival. It was a miracle a new treatment became available for her and at the age of 15 she was declared in remission. It took another 6 years for her to be opid free. It is the same shit a heroine only legal. She is now in her 20s and living a good healthy lifestyle but she said word for word....if she didn't have the right support system and understanding family to get her through it she would've have turned to street drugs 100%.
My point is.....no one wakes up one morning and says "I want to be an addict!"
It's actually because they have experienced so much suffering at their own hand. Think about what that does to a person. To be responsible day after day for your own suffering and be incapable of changing your actions.
They have a profound recognition of their own shortcomings and won't tend to judge you for yours.
Thank you, because as a former addict I’ve had a lot of bad experiences with nurses. In one case, the nurse saw marks on my arm and said I was lying about being sick (i wasnt, I have a chronic illness and was rehospitalized the very next day in fulminant condition) and then I heard her talking to another nurse saying I was lying about my address and place of work (I wasn’t, I was a functioning addict and had a corporate job).
It’s so incredibly frustrating dealing with those kinds of nurses so I thank you for treating these people with respect and care. Especially in the midst of withdrawal they won’t be themselves. Now, that being said, a lot of addicts are really scummy and dishonest people before and after drugs get involved.
Thank you for your comment and kindness but most of all thank you for your compassion. As it has done to the others in this thread your comment hit me aswell. Too many ppl nowadays are too closed minded, naive and extremely judgmental...we need more ppl like you on this planet. This means sooo much to us who are struggling with addiction and lived or still living thru hell. Thank you again Madeleine, you are a truly an amazing human being.
@Chandra Cox I agree 100% and have been thru the same as u twice. No one wants to be dope sick...it's fucking HELL! And all one needs to feel normal again is to score some dope or pills or whatever they are hooked on. Dope sickness lasts a long time depending on what substance they are using, with Opioids it can take months for your body and brain to fully "detoxified" and in full recovery. That's meaning they can sleep properly again, no chills/sweats and the rest of the residual withdrawal symptoms of long term Opioid use. One doesn't have to "abuse" prescription meds to be dependent or addicted either and that's what a lot of ppl and even doctors don't understand. Even when patients take their prescribed meds as directed by their doctor they WILL get addicted or dependent on that medication and that includes non-narcotics aswell. Our bodies can and will get dependent even with anti depressants or anti anxiety medications.
Delon Duvenage there are some addicts that are psychopaths as much as there are soccor moms that are psychopaths that only act nice when it benefiting them and shows their true colors when they can’t you to do what they want. People are all different and your experience with your brother isn’t the definition of all addicts just like my post was not me way saying all addicts are sensitive , decent people. I’ve had horrible addicts who are abusive verbal and physically, the ones who are only nice because they want me bring there pain medicine, just like I’ve had verbally abusive lawyers, dads, grandpa, grandma, moms, and former nurses, who I’d rather quit my job than go in there room and deal with their verbal abuse. I’m not easily manipulated btw. This was just my observation and yes I’m taking into account the addict who are super nice to me and calls me every 1-3 hours for pain medicine they aren’t due for, but a lot of them don’t and those are the ones I was referring when I said “they are usually the kindest most polite people.”
@Rob Banks for Suboxone to work properly the patient MUST b in full blown withdrawal. So unfortunately because Methadone is such a long acting Opioid it took me 3 days without a dose to go into withdrawal. If the patient takes Suboxone while dosed with any Opioid they will be put into withdrawal as soon as the Suboxone starts taking effect. When your dosed or high and given Suboxone which contains Naloxone you will go into withdrawal because it blocks your Opioid receptors in the brain. Trust me, it's much more comfortable to b in withdrawal before taking Suboxone...I had my first dose when the pharmacy opened at 9am and I was feeling great before lunch that day had another dose at 4 and by 6pm I had no withdrawal symptoms whatsoever. If it wasn't for Methadone and Suboxone I can honestly say I most likely would not b leaving this comment right now. Good luck on your path
@Delon Duvenage that doesn't go for everyone man and anyone can manipulate, they don't have to b an addict. I hear u tho, I know exactly where u r coming from and u obviously have some animosity towards your brother. But, can u look in the mirror and say you haven't manipulated anyone or done any one wrong? Your brother NEEDS help not to be ridiculed and shunned by his own family..he has those actions because he is sick
@Jessica Keim As somebody who has been exactly where you are can tell you there is a light at the end of the tunnel, even though it may not seem like it now. There are ways to clean up and people out there who can and will help. If you ever need somebody to talk to who can relate, I am here. Just let me know.
@Elizabeth Walker sometimes its not so much as wanting to drugs but the drugs wanting you. I run but they still find me
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Elizabeth Walker2020-07-24 13:52:43 (edited 2020-07-24 14:05:30 )
@Rob Banks He will tell you himself he ran into a bad crowd. No, nothing happened to him except stupidity of trying that first drug. He has destroyed his life. He has had three wives and four kids all gone because of drugs. He has felonies, all because of drugs, he lost an amazing job, his house and all of his money because of drugs, he now has started stealing from family. For my own peace of mind and my kids, he is no longer in my life. He has burned every bridge and so many people have tried to help him.
@Rob Banks simple drug possession? It is illegal. Do you know how many deaths have occurred through drugs? Kids getting hold of their parents drugs, car accidents, hurting the people around you. There has to be punishment but being forced to go to rehab, does that work?
@Elizabeth Walker I can understand if they harm someone and the person is then put behind bars. However, if someone is getting into drugs and need help, how is putting them behind bars gonna help? Prison puts you in this irreversible cycle of going in and out. There are many addicts that have recovered. I don't think it's fair to them if they never get a chance to redeem themselves.
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Rob Banks2020-07-24 15:31:31 (edited 2020-07-24 15:31:43 )
@Lizz exactly. That’s why all drugs should be regulated. Why do u think it’s easier for kids to get drugs than alcohol? Because alcohol is legal. And bought only thru the proper channels. If you believe the failed drug war is the continued way to go to continue policing the poor , u really are young and naive, or haven’t done any research
Over analyzing. Jeff is under the influence of heroine. He’s not doing anything on purpose. He’s on drugs, that’s it. He won’t remember any of this. This is sad
Judging by the fact that the cop refused him a lawyer, and even healthcare, I’d assume the case swayed massively in Jeff’s way. I hope the dude got his butterfinger
UPDATE : For anyone interested, Jeff has his own You-Tube channel where he discusses this encounter in his own words. His YT channel is called... "The Legend of Jeff" lol
Once a suspect asks for a lawyer ALL questions by the police MUST stop. This guy was mirandized multiple times and held for hours AFTER repeatedly asking for an attorney. I don't see how any statements he might have made after all of this wouldn't get thrown out. Officer's conduct was clearly illegal and against Jeff's constitutional right to remain silent and the right to an attorney.
Depending on the state yes, because if you are to be alone in the forest than no one can stop you from getting free coffee in the dark during a good movie
@Brent Farvors never realized you reacted to my spew of nonsense, if you look above again you realize I made no sense, must of read the first sentence only thinking I was actually giving a productive thought
@Cinematic Void yes I was genuinely confused with your comment, but even more confused after reading his. Thought it was supposes to make sense somehow
@eViL jEsuS All it takes is a quick u-test and they will know he needs atmeast methadone, withdrawal from Opium is already bad bud he is imprisoned too.
What troubles me the most about this case or cases like this where cops pressure people for insane periods of time ..sometimes exceeding days, is that you can see first hand how innocent people can have their lives ruined by making an admission of guilt when they are in fact innocent. Many cops don’t care if the person did the crime or not they just want someone to go to jail so the case can be closed. It’s happened so many times before where the suspect will be so exhausted from the interrogation that they admit to guilt because they just want the endless harassment and intimidation to end. And sometimes It’s like a war of attrition where the interrogators keep swapping each other out and the suspect gets so delusional by the end of it they might start to believe they really did it..
When I was 10, after I had spent a week with my grandma, just hours after I got home, the phone rang, and I was accused of emptying her coin jar. My stuff was searched. I said 1000x I would never do that (I would never do that) for 2wks I had to go to my grandmas after school, and sit in the living room, surrounded by my grandma, my granddad, my dad and my step mum, while they would question me. Every day I said “no, I didn’t do that.” They asked if I didn’t do it, who did. And I didn’t have the answer to that, so every day, I went back. I was to have to go back every day until we figured out what happened to that money. One day, I said “Ok, I took it,” and then, I had to say what I did with it. The interrogation didn’t end when I admitted to it, so now I was stuck there, again, unsure of what to say, because, I didn’t take the money. So I said, I spent it. They asked what I spent it on… I had nothing to show them for it, so I had no answers. So I said candy. There was no shop nearby, and I had no way of getting to a shop without my grandma taking me. So they didn’t believe me. So more days went by, my stuff was searched again, for new things, there were no new things, I didn’t take the money. Then after many more days of these interrogations, I said I buried it. They asked why, I didn’t have an answer. Then I realised I could say I buried it so I could come back for it later. They asked me to show them where I buried it. See if we could find it then to give it back. I didn’t bury it, because I didn’t take it, so I didn’t know what to say. They asked me if I buried it at the park nearby, so I said yes, and I walked them around that park, from bush to bush and tree to tree, telling them, I wasn’t sure which bush I buried it under. I eventually said I buried it here, and we dug around a bit, but it was obvious nothing was buried there. The interrogation continued for what felt like a very long period of my life, and then, I was told I wasn’t welcome at my grandmas for a while. This entire process broke my heart, because I couldn’t understand what was happening. I knew about the money jar, my grandma told me at least once or twice while I stayed with her, that I could take $2 and by myself something from the shops. But I only ever went to the money jar with permission. I knew no one else could have taken the money, because why would they, and who would have? There was no one but my grandparents that knew about it. I was just lost over this, which is why I eventually just admitted I stole the money, because, there was NO ANSWER. It broke my heart, my grandma didn’t trust me anymore, my grandad didn’t trust me anymore. My dad was disappointed in me. Everyone was hurt. Most of all me. It wasn’t until about 10 years later, I realised what happened to the money. I told my dad. He listened, whether or not he believed me, I dunno. My relationship with my grandma was never the same. My dad, my grandad and my grandma, are all dead now, and so, I actually hope, they know the truth. They know it broke my heart, and my confession was a lie. I never took that money. The person who took that money, was a girl who lived in the neighbourhood. Her name was Mallory, she was someone I talked to sometimes in the street, and one day I asked my grandma if she could come swim in the pool with me. After swimming, we went inside to change, I showed her the coin stash, showing off as a kid does. Then I went to get changed to bike around with Mallory, I forgot all about showing her my grandmas coin stash. When we were on our bikes, she was behind me, I heard jingling. I asked her about it, and she jingled her arm at me, and told me it was her bracelets. She had a lot of those very thin silver bracelets, they were popular back in the 90s. I thought it was weird and questioned her some more, and then she said, “here you can have some.” And she gave me a couple. Then she said she had to go home, and she biked off. And I never saw her again. I never thought about it again. Until I was an adult, and I realised what happened. She emptied my grandmas coin jar into her plastic bag, holding her swimmers and towel. It was jingling as she biked along. That’s what I heard, that’s where the money went. I am gutted I never thought of that when I was a kid. But it wouldn’t have helped, I didn’t really know Mallory, and I didn’t really know where she lived. Somewhere in my grandmas neighbourhood. It wouldn’t have helped my case, and I probably would have gotten in trouble for showing someone where my grandmas stash was anyway. I often think of this experience, and I can honestly say, it changed me as a person, going through it. Lying and admitting to something I didn’t do. Being forced into a lie. It defeated me. It defeated me to tell people I love, I did something awful, when I really didn’t do it. I know people lie and admit to things they didn’t do. Because the pressure, it gets to you. Not having answers to their questions, not having an alibi, having no explanation for something that so obviously happened, and having authority not let up, not stop asking, not stop telling you you’re guilty…It makes you tell them you are. I am 36 now, and it still hurts to this day, knowing what happened to me. It was a relief to remember Mallory’s part in it… But it doesn’t change the hurt I caused myself, lying.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is why you DO NOT talk to the police. Notice how the guy who didn't talk was released? And all the other videos where the people give 3 hour long stories why they're innocent ends up with them getting life! Be Jeff my friend. Be Jeff. 🤷🏻♂️
See how quickly the demeanor of the detective changed when he realized Jeff wasn't going to give him any information? NOTHING YOU SAY TO THE COPS WILL HELP YOU! KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTHS SHUT EVEN IF YOU ARE INNOCENT!
It's a sad reality. Any police show I've watched they only ever get sent down due to talking. Unfortunately it doesn't always seem about finding the right person just the person stupid enough to talk. Even as someone that doesn't commit crime I would refuse to talk which is sad...
As a recovering opiate addict, I hope I can adequately convey the absolute HELL it is to withdraw in prison I was infinitely more scared of that, than I was death A heroin addict is driven to do horrible things in order to avoid withdrawals I stole from family, I sold drugs knowing the cops were following me and I’d be caught eventually, I robbed people I’d have killed myself before going through those withdrawals
I’d NEVER be able to commit those crimes as a sober man, but that FEAR is what drove me on I didn’t get drugs to get high anymore I got drugs to feel normal for a while
I’m sitting in rehab at the moment, a couple months in... early days in my recovery but I remind myself every day how real that fear is
But, my question is; After going through so much pain, how can you even LOOK at heroin ever again...? Baffles my mind how something that causes so much pain is done again, and again, and again...
If you don’t mind… How many bags were you doing daily, how long did it take to get through acute withdrawal’s, and how does your body and mind feel now?
My depression and withdrawal mingled together like some kind of mad symphony ball room dance and I didn’t know where withdrawals began and depression ended. Jeff
@Brent Farvors I mean he literally explained it for you right here. There's a reason addicts who want to quit can't just stop yaknow. Imagine a schizophrenia man with a chronic condition that makes them feel excruciating pain constantly, which is solved through medication, and then one day he loses access to his medication, and that's somewhat similar to what withdrawal would be like. That's not to say it's actually what withdrawal is but rather it's to give an idea of the severity of it.
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C Z2022-01-07 11:37:45 (edited 2022-01-07 11:39:08 )
I heard addictions are people trying to survive emotionally as they could not bear to be present in their lives. It's not the addicts are at fault. It's the lack of healthy human interaction/relationships. Once they are connected with supportive family and/or friends there's no need to turn to excessive drugs, computer games, sex etc for comfort. There's also a TED talk on this I can't remember who it was though. I agree 100%. This helps me understand the struggles of addiction. Hope this helps you in some ways too.
@Brent Farvors Start smoking, when you are sure you got addicted, try to quit smoking. Then multiply that fear of withdrawal with 100 (i guess). Then hopefully you'll stop asking silly questions :)
The literature says that withdrawal symptoms only last a few days, but that's not accurate. After being put on pain medication for a year, taking it multiple times a day (I have a painful neurological disease) I became physically dependent. I tried to wean myself many times, and a few weeks times cold turkey. After going 5 days without, the withdrawals were still there and getting worse, not better. The skin crawling, insomnia, severe stomach cramps, it was hell. I used to judge addicts. I no longer do.
Been clean roughly 15 years. And anytime I think about dope I remind myself about laying in a holding cell covered in piss & garbage going through withdrawals . sometimes waiting for days to be sent to Rikers island only to repeat the process for another two days before getting medical attention. And they give you the lowest amount possible of method. That memory alone is enough to keep you on the straight and narrow.
@C Z it might have been Johan Hari he also wrote a book called chasing the scream.
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C Z2022-03-08 09:37:44 (edited 2022-03-08 09:38:02 )
@Ariadne's Child I just looked him up and it IS him! :) It was fascinating when I first heard his talk, "Everything you think you know about addiction is wrong". In fact I listened to it multiple times just to let it sink in. It answered all the questions I needed on addiction.
@Christian Morales doin OK, 5 months clean is coming soon Wish I could say I’m loving it all but I’ve been pretty down for weeks.. not depressed just hopeless about my future. Like my best days are behind me n there’s no point in going through all this. Don’t want to do drugs but not feeling any love for life either
I started weaning off methadone a few weeks ago... plan is to get to a low enough dose to allow me to switch to suboxone then get the subutex injections. Hoping it’s just the methadone sucking the life out of me It does lower testosterone... not only that but it limits my ability to work having to rely on getting to a pharmacy every day
(Not sure you really wanted to know all that but... there it is lol)
When I tell you I feel you 100%. I would rather do ANYTHING than going through withdrawals. I’ve done mane many things I’m not proud of. One day at a time!
@Tam Anon I’m still in treatment, coming up on 6 months I’m in a second stage house, in the process of getting into some college courses so I’ll have a career when I leave here
It’s extremely frustrating watching how the detective doesn’t understand how addiction works. “What do you need methadone for?” Like damn, have a care. The poor lad is sick and has been sick over a decade. I can’t stand this part of policing. Help them!
I've been hooked on heroin and I was paying for that shit with money I worked my fucking ass off for.
Not every addict in is in the stage of addiction where they can no longer support themselves and have to parasite on others.
On top of that, even with those that do end up leeching off society, you have to be able to ask some very important questions. Like, what happened, how did they end up there. It's not like a healthy, well adjusted person will suddenly decide to seek out heroin - a drug that can be overdosed and literally kill you with relative ease, so each time you get another batch, you may be gambling on your chances of getting high and numbing the pain vs very literally dying.
People don't generally become addicts out of some sort of inherent evil, no matter how easy it is for your smooth brain to think that way.
@xucthclu he had been arrested many times. Just shows that he chose to stay on that path rather than improve himself. His notgivingafuck demeanor says it all. While he is likable I find it hard to feel any sympathy for him.
@Johnny he was arrested in the past. The past doesn't define a character, which is proven by his character today. You should seriously learn to care for others in similar positions to him, because a good majority of the time it wasn't their character that led them there, it was environment, which was believe it or not at least partially crafted by our government. Any research into the drug war and you'll see these aren't bad people but rather a product of something bigger
@xucthclu everyone is dealt a hand and the path you choose defines your character. This man shows he’s smart and couldve been so much more. But he said fuck it and stayed on drugs, and there are people like you enabling and sympathizing. Good job:)
@Hannah Gs this man is smart enough to know right from wrong. No one can defeat someones addiction for them its up to them. You shouldnt enable people… like its some terminal illness that cant be solved.
Lost my little brother to this shit 3 years ago, my brother was a good man, he had his struggle but he was a Good man. The way he thanked the coke tore me up. He is obviously withdrawing and they know it. He invoked that 5th amendment like the falcon punch on Super Smash Bros. One love
The mistake people make is answering questions. There’s a reason lawyers say do not answer any questions. Not even seemingly innocuous questions like “where are you coming from?” or “where are you going?” When you start talking is when they start building a case. Never ever trust what a cop tells you.
jeff reminds me of my best friend's dad so much. we'll call him tom. tom has served time before and has carried so much wisdom from that. if you ask his opinion, you can bet your family's life that he will be as honest as possible and will not sugarcoat it at all. the "you look like a prick" comment was what reminded me of tom the most. he really matches that anti hero criteria. but overall he's an amazing dad and honestly a great role model in some ways :)
For being messed up, Jeff is smart enough to know the importance of asking for the lawyer. Unless this is Canada where they can continue asking you questions and use anything said against you.
Man was read his rights, man exercised his right to remain silent, man told the officers "I do not want to sign anything, I will not answer questions, I want a lawyer" AFTER he had already informed them "I'm a junkie and I will be suffering from withdrawal soon" and yet the officers CONTINUED to interrogate him SEVERAL more times over the course of 5 to 10 hours.
Not only did these officers violate this man's rights by continuing to pressure and interrogate him after he called for a lawyer, they actively and willingly used time as a factor to exploit this man's self-admitted addiction in a attempt to use his withdrawal symptoms and irritation as a means to obtain enough evidence for a conviction.
None of the officers in this video should be officers anymore, they should have their badges taken away and never be allowed to hold any kind of position of authority again.
@Piggish he can be held for 24 hours, but not without legal representation if he demands it, which he wasn't given and was repeatedly questioned anyway.
@PhantomSavage for HOURS ON IN and they asked stupid questions and said stupid shii like" I got alil bit of something "to he has alot and already knows everything like wtf bro why u askn me all this shii if u already know
Sorry, but that only works in TV shows. They can ask him whatever they want, they just can't use anything as evidence unless he states that he understands his Miranda rights (which at one point he does) . As for the continued interrogations, Jeff did them willingly for Cokes. As to his heroin addiction, the detectives are under no obligation to cater to his withdrawal schedule.
@PhantomSavage yeah but he kept agreeing to talk to them in exchange for a coke and a Butterfinger, which he never got. I agree with you but when he asked for a lawyer that's going to take time and when he said put me back in the cell they did. Sure they were trying to bend the rules by what you were saying but.... He was agreeing to some of the stuff in exchange for sodas and stuff
@FlyGuy2000 interviews are supposed to end as soon as a subject asks for a lawyer. Withdrawal is a medical condition and there are required to have a medical professional examine him to ensure he won't have a seizure and die from withdrawal.
@Simqer and I like how you say food even though it was a fucking butterfinger
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John Blood2021-05-05 11:52:53 (edited 2021-05-05 12:16:14 )
@FlyGuy2000 law says that when a person asks for legal counsel, the interview is over until the lawyer gets there. Any attempt to get information out of them can be argued easily to be dismissed by a seasoned defense attourney. Which is why these regulations are important.. they affect the states case against the defendant if evidence or even a confession was gained in violation of the defendants constitutional rights.
And its just plain wrong to do so and against any decent deparmental code.. not to mention illegal.
Bottom line, he asked for counsel, the officer was legally obligated to terminate the interview until the lawyer got there, because not doing so is illegal and any informatiom gained thereafter without a lawyer present can be dismissed in court.. dont believe me, look it up.
The 24 to 48 hours refers to the amount they arw legally allowed to hold him without charging him.
@FlyGuy2000 to fully drive home the point i made in the previous comment i direct you towards sthruck vs US.. where it was ruled that if during or after questioning or conviction if it comes to light that it involved a sixth ammendment violation, the conviction or indictmet must be reversed immediately.
I think you have a incorrect perception on how the world works - cops can ask you as many questions as they want - they don’t care about your addictions or problems - just because you ask for a lawyer it does not stop the wheels of justice from moving
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John Blood2021-05-05 17:47:33 (edited 2021-05-05 17:49:15 )
@Car Kulture yes it doea. It is illegal in the unites states to interview one that asked for a lawyer until the lawyer gets there.. any evidence or info they gain while doing so is inadmissable and can lead to a conviction reversal.. it has happenes before due to circumatances exactly like the one in this video, man questioned without legal counsel after demanding it.
You people really should read the laws on the matter before commenting. Spreading untruths on it only hurts people.
@John Blood i believe you btw.. But maybe a lot of the other comments know that the reality can be different.. The cop will still bust through i guess.. It's just my oppinion though.. And seeing the video myself i felt sympathy for jeff. I hope he did get clean and works in coca cola afterwards
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John Blood2021-05-05 21:40:25 (edited 2021-05-05 21:56:58 )
@Ghani well it doesnt matter how in reality it usually works but if his case went to trial everything in that interview, including incriminatong evidence would be automatically thrown out.. which is why officers in that position are trained to lean towards plea bargains..
So anyone in that position can just say "i wont sign anything, i will not make any deals, ill see you in court" and i can guarantee the defendant will get off scott free.. has happened on numerous occasions when the police rushed the process and were stupid enough to go to court instead of trying to plea bargain.
It has even happened when the defendants have clearly been guilty.. this is why cops should not be allowed to do this, it can ruin the states case against a criminal if he is well read enough with law to know the charges would be dismissed on a 6th ammendment and 14th ammendment clause violatiom, which it would be, regardless of actual guilt.
The constitution is king in the justice system, you violate it in the course of adverserial action against a defendant and your case is ruined.. prosecutors hate cops like this, trust me.. especially if they didnt get him to sign a plea bargain.
A majority of criminal cases these days are solved with plea bargains but all it takes is one intelligent serial killer to know that if he doesnt sign that waiver and plea bargain that the circumstances like in this video, would guarantee his release.
@John Blood I appreciate your view but unfortunately this is not as cut and dry as you make it out to be just because you evoke your Miranda rights doesn’t stop the process plenty of people have had evidence used against when they made further statements after evoking their rights. Rules are just words on paper and unfortunately they are not always followed, if the prosecution can prove that you some how waived your Miranda rights after you attempted to evoke them you are now fair game.
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John Blood2021-05-05 23:27:24 (edited 2021-05-05 23:54:14 )
@Car Kulture if the police have enough evidence to charge you, sure, but even then, if you say you want a lawyer then no interview is to take place.. at all until the lawyer is present.. that is as cut and dry as that.
And in this case specifically it is clear cut.. this is no an opinion or a point of view.. this is simple fact.. 10 second google search would tell you as much.
Evidence gathered outside the interview room is another matter, but any information gathered in interview without lawyer present when asked, is thrown automatically out.. cops do not need extensive interviews whenever they already have enough to charge you, deals usually come off the table and such.. otherwise you can bet that any evidence is circumstancial.
I know how this works. I have family in law enforcement.
These are rules based on the sixth and fourteenth ammendment, right to counsel and fair hearings..
And proving a waiver for counsel was used needs to be a formal one. Spoken in clear plain english "i do not require representation in questioning" or a written waiver with your signature.. anything less is invalid. ankther exception is that if you reinitiate the conversation, then the police may speak to you about the case again or ask leading questions.. this is called fishing and is a common tactic to get the person to speak first, not the case here again.
In closing, the officers in this video broke the law, plain and simple. Everything i stated to back up that assertion and the legal consequences in court are accurate as i have stated them.. being well read in law is not a matter of opinion or open to interpretation.. it is black and white in law and constitution.
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John Blood2021-05-05 23:58:57 (edited 2021-05-06 00:19:19 )
@Car Kulture let me give you a list of what the cops can do after you ask for a lawyer.
Wait for the Lawyer to arrive and resume questioning after they have arrived and advised their client (usually in private first)
Get a warrant to search your property
Get a warrant to get forensic evidence from your person (dna etc.)
Speak to witnesses and gather evidence against you.
Once they have enough, they may charge you..
They however may not continue questioning you after and unambiguous call for an attourney has taken place, they must pack up and cease all forms of questioning im that instant.
@John Blood hopefully you don’t ever end up In the system I’d bet a lot of your notions with how the law works will be shattered, I know because I’ve seen it and lived it, the world is not black and white it’s all grey! Wish you the best!
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John Blood2021-05-06 00:28:37 (edited 2021-05-06 00:32:38 )
@Car Kulture You're wrong. again, any amount of google search would prove it so.
You did not live through an experience like that. You either waived your rights, didn't keep your mouth shut (iE initiated conversation), signed a plea bargain or you're just a liar.
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Car Kulture2021-05-06 00:51:46 (edited 2021-05-06 00:53:53 )
@John Blood I don’t appreciate being called a lair I have been very respectful with this exchange but by the way you speak and carry yourself shows me you have a lot of growing up to do, I have a feeling life will humble you, best wishes and it’s not cool to like your own comments(just saying)
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John Blood2021-05-06 01:01:03 (edited 2021-05-06 01:07:29 )
@Car Kulture Im not liking my own comments, i type and leave. got better things to do than to spend the effort on that. correcting those that are clearly wrong is enough for me.
Just to drive home the point here.
"Police are required to stop their interrogation at the time you ask for an attorney, and cannot question you further until you have an attorney present. You must clearly communicate that you are asking for an attorney and that you do not wish to be questioned anymore."
Note the use of the words *clearly communicate*. meaning you must clearly and without question say "I want a lawyer" NOT "may i have a lawyer" Or any kind of request to have a lawyer in the form of a question.. It must be a statement that you WANT a lawyer present in questioning. Failure of the police to comply with this is a sixth amendment violation and again, ILLEGAL.
Also. funny that you would focus on the posited scenario that you were in fact a liar out of all the other possibilities which would account for your PoV.. Because in my experience, that usually means that that is exactly what's happening.
@Car Kulture Oh and in case you think im simply being an ass, that i may be but i had to double and triple check my information before posting in case i may have been incorrect here.. If that would have been the case, i would have ended the exchange instead and said that you were correct and went on my way having learned something more about the nuances of law and law enforcement.
@Car Kulture No my logic is based on psychology and careful study of law.
sure cutting corners does happen in law and law enforcement, but guess what, if such a thing happens, and you can prove it, and you could if you experienced what you claim to have, your sentence would be expunged in appeals court and if it resulted in a felony charge, the record cleared.
Also since we're talking, mind referring me to the court case number. Those a public record and since you adamantly claim to have experienced something, i'll go ahead and analyze it FOR you.
I'll be waiting.
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John Blood2021-05-06 02:01:28 (edited 2021-05-06 02:09:17 )
@Car Kulture Congratulations. You have made it to the stage where a liar uses ad hominem and an unverifiable claim as weight in an argument.
Being educated and correcting someone who clearly is wrong on their base knowledge, in an ideal world would result into the party who's wrong admitting they were wrong. But you fall into the category that likes to try to save their incorrect position with either lying or trying to claim some manner of high ground.
common, idiotic and not to mention rude.
Oh and just to blow your picture of me out the way, I'm a finnish national that moved to america.. I have no parents to live with.
And just to be clear, the posited scenario of you being a liar doesn't involve you lying about being in the system, but your claim that you experienced a sixth amendment violation in the same way as Jeffrey here did.
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John Blood2021-05-06 02:14:26 (edited 2021-05-06 02:17:33 )
@Car Kulture no, i posited several scenarios, you chose to focus on the liar part.
And yes, i am an asshole, wont deny that. But im right too and thats the part that vexes you the most. If you don't wish to be called out on an unlikely story then don't use alleged personal anecdote as ammunition in your argument.
@UCUBtC2-JFl5ZnAFsUQxJ9jA sure you don't. But it's not a valid argument to use. I personally don't care whether or not you are lying or not. But your alleged personal accounts gives your argument no weight especially if you're not willing to share the details. Personally i would have been interested in getting verification on it but instead you take a path of berating, evasion and projection.
Advising people incorrectly is not cool. Think before you comment on something like a comment chain having to do with case law. Especially if your position is that the system is built to actively and repeatedly to violate your constitutional rights without you having any recourse, because it's not only incorrect, it's potentially dangerous advice to impart on someone.
@John Blood That is the reason to remain silent until your lawyer arrives.
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S. N.2021-05-08 14:41:23 (edited 2021-05-08 15:18:40 )
@John Blood Actually I work for the police in Eastern Europe. We don't have Miranda and it's so much easy to do our job when we interrogate. p.s. I'm not on the side of the cops from the video. They're not right.
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John Blood2021-05-08 15:08:16 (edited 2021-05-08 15:53:56 )
@S. N. well european countries are different obviously. My native country, finland is like that too.
In finland you have every right for a lawyer but the police are not legally required to stop questioning, it is up to the person whether he or she wants to speak until the lawyer gets there. And in finland you have the right to view any evidence the police have gathered and gather your own evidence that may prove your innocence and have it included in the investigation files.
one exception is that if you do not speak the language you have the right to get an interpreter and the questioning will not begin until one is present because you have the right to understand what the police is charging you with.
This comment chain and seeing Mr. KarCulture squirm as you gentlemen called out his bullshit with calm and poise 👏 was extremely satisfying to behold. Backed into a corner, this 9000IQ super sleuth busted out the ultimate power move, casting " Allege Mom's Basement !" but y'all banished that bullshit to the Shadow Realm like immediately! Great Job!
@Rifle Shooter Channel They are not required to make you comfortable. But they were required to stop questioning him until a lawyer was present because he demanded one correctly and firmly.
If the police had an actual case, they would have charged him a lot sooner but they were relying on him breaking down and providing a confession and signing a plea bargain and the officers were using his dependency on illicit substances as a form of leverage.. The longer they held and questioned him, the higher his chances of confessing and signing a plea bargain simply because his withdrawal symptoms were so unbearable.
it's a lot more common than i'd like it to be and i'm surprised it's not considered a form of torture/coercion in america.
@John Blood They aren’t required to stop questioning once a lawyer is requested.
Also “muh withdrawals!!” is a slippery slope because it opens the door to allow anyone to get anything they say dismissed because they make up fake withdrawal excuses.
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John Blood2021-05-16 08:41:26 (edited 2021-05-16 08:42:28 )
@Rifle Shooter Channel law says they are required to stop. And youre right, when requested they are not.. demanded is the right word. He demanded a lawyer, law says interview is over until one arrives.
@Rifle Shooter Channel actually i think ive stated already that i do live in the united states. Finnish national, moved to america. Also the letter of the law is clear, apparently you just dont read.
It's the name of the game mate. It sucks for the suspect, but it's just how it works. They have to grill him in the time they have, and who's going to flog them if they aren't 100% within the confines of the law? The attorney, in the courtroom? They'll survive that.
And if they can get some solid evidence or a confession before he/she arrives, it won't matter that they didn't wait - once the suspect is in the courtroom it's all over.
They're gambling, and it's their job to do this before the machinery takes away their power to. They have him by the balls. Who would waste that opportunity?
(note, I don't agree with this, but it's just how it happens)
@Car Kulture totaly agree with you..even if john blood is legaly correct. i am not from the us . i am from sweden but it is the same shit here. even if you are legaly right to see a doctor to get your medecation or what ever...who cares? not them they just want someone to blame.. and were is it easy to get confessions from? people that have a addiction and start to have whitdraws...sadly thats how the world works
@Rifle Shooter Channel "if I say the same thing over and over again, it will become true"
edit: lmfaoo I don't renounce my position in the slightest, but I did learn something new today, I'll give you that. regardless, I still find it funny that somehow, in your mind, the fact I repeated a quip I didn't know the meaning of translates to an "utter defeat", which means you missed my point entirely and decided to focus on one unrelated and irrelevant thing.
@FlyGuy2000 Yes, the detectives do have to look after his health while in custody. Just because American cops generally love killing, doesn't mean that people don't have rights. This man was guilty of no crime at that point. He has all the rights of any human, but while in custody, he definitely has the right to a lawyer. There will come a day when crooked, murderous cops get their comeuppance, and the times are already changing on that. There's rules to this shit! The sooner the police play by them, the sooner there will be less rioting/protests.
@Red they definitely don't do that! I've been to jail before and I've watched hundreds of females crawl in the pod and just puke, shake, sweat, and so much other stuff. I asked for a Tylenol and they gave it to me 3 days later after I filled out shot forms and everything else. They don't care about shit. They don't care about people that aren't in the system and how they treat them! It's insane what they do to their so-called"criminals"
You are correct that when you say you want to remain silent and ask for a lawyer, they are supposed to end the interrogation, but they are allowed to come back after a period of time and ask you if you've changed your mind and want to talk. I suspect that they did that to him and he agreed to come back to the interrogation room if they would give him another Coke.
@FlyGuy2000 I don't know man. Heroin withdrawals are quite severe, they can kill you and you're definitely unable to think straight during that. It's like saying that officers don't need to cater to person who needs insulin, because they have diabetes.
@Rifle Shooter Channelalright, big guy, here goes. next up, this is the part where you elaborate and show that you have any reason and purpose whatsoever. go get em, tiger. we're all rooting for you out there
@Rifle Shooter Channel yeah, wow, that's not even close to what burden of proof is. maybe you should stop trying to call me on fallacies when you don't know what they are. not to mention that the word "tacit" doesn't hold any weight with how often and repeatedly you use it, even though half the time, it's completely wrong, just like basically everything else you've been trying to push on me. maybe try again now. either elaborate, or accuse me of something else you don't know the meaning of, or maybe just say "I win" again like a 6 year old having a temper tantrum, sure.
Withdrawal means nothing in this case, law says a suspect can be held up to 24 hours.
Police doesn’t use YOUR right to remain silent, they can still ask you questions and pressure you to speak but it is up to you to remain silent.
We clearly hear the officer going “We talked and now you’re asking for a lawyer and I can’t talk to you now” and leave the room only to have Jeff back in five hours later in which we don’t know what happened. Maybe they provided him with a lawyer? Maybe he changed his mind? We don’t know.
They can question him all they want, but if he asked for a lawyer and none was present, they can't use anything he says in court. (That is, if they admit he asked for a lawyer) That being said, questioning a man for hours while he's going to heroin withdrawal is devious. I went cold turkey off of opioids in the 90's and it was hell. HELL. It makes having a bad flu feel like a Swedish massage.
@Piggish as soon as you request a lawyer and state you’re not answering questions the interrogation is over even if he had admitted to killing someone or anything else it wouldn’t be admissible in court
@Ulysses Sus Grant What kind of unperceptive person do u have to be to assume, I'm a girl with a name like Mr Evil?? Just like the rest of your palm reading you didnt get a thing right. As for the drug part, I know more about these situations then you will ever know...professionally. You said absolutely nothing and you said it too loudly.
You must not know how Miranda works.. a lot of times people will ask for a lawyer, and then recant that statement and want to speak with detectives.. I guarantee every time he was put back in his cell he told the jailers he wanted to talk to detectives, so the detectives brought him back.. if they were trying to be crooked about it they wouldn’t read him Miranda every single time he was brought back into the interview room
@MrEvilchukky well firstly, I highly doubt you know very much about any kind of narcotics or addiction when you 1, don't know what withdrawal is and assume that people would do just fine if they "just quit", and 2, have no empathy for adicts even though, if you have professional knowledge, you'd know full well how drug addicts are mostly victims who are treated like scumbags by the system, even though what they need is proper rehabilitation rather than imprisonment. as for the assumption of you as a person, I basically just listed off the person who would have the least experience or contact with narcotics in their life, even through education. those are often the people who have opinions closest to yours. no to mention that names mean nothing. I can call myself Pretty Little Princess regardless of my gender, meaning your name isn't any sort of reliable source of info. on top of that, even if it was, Chucky is a hit with "quirky" teenage girls these days. the ones who don't know the first thing about drugs. I basically just connected the dots. of course, I wouldn't expect to be right, but on the chance that I am, it's a nice addition to my point. and when it's wrong, oh well. doesn't do anything to my argument since it doesn't have much to do with it
@Ulysses Sus Grant I appreciate your well-worded replies to Rifle Shooter and clear understanding of what logical fallacies are. I would like to point out however, that Rifle might just be a troll? And if they aren't, simply stop replying to them because the "conversation" is really just a back and forth jerk off.
@Strawberry Kit Kats I mean, it's fun to see him squirm though lmao. even if he is a troll, he got himself deep enough to get his ego hurt and is desperately trying to save it. not a very good troll imo
@FlyGuy2000 Maybe...but, at the moment he invokes his rights, the law enforcement officer is jeopardizing his case by continuing. I'm not disagreeing in the real world, things could play out different, but I do know a law enforcement officer that I've spoken to about this. He told me that at the very moment the person invokes their rights, he stops. There's no reason to let someone get away with something because the officer plays loose with the law.
@Red It's very common for interrogators to intentionally do this, actually. Attempting to harass and exhaust a "suspect" into falsely confessing has been extremely common for decades, only having been called out rarely for the last decade.
Addicts going into withdrawal are especially targeted precisely because of the ease of getting them to confess to a crime they didn't do, so they can seek medical help potentially (generally still being ignored, though).
I’m not a lawyer and I don’t think you are either I agree with you morally but can’t say if it’s completely wrong legally ^^, but officers are not evil they’re trying to do their duty it’s a difficult job.
@Car Kulture these fools in here never actually seen how the police operate besides on youtube or tv. Don't give them the time of day. IF YOU KNOW THEN YOU KNOW.
@Remote Controll hey thank you for that I’m not a career criminal but I’ve been in the presence of police officers more often than I care to admit and they have their own agenda which usually trumps your own rights, your right I need to stop feeding in to the 💩 thanks for your comment
@El Zong Xina I could tell you I am (I do have a degree in law, actually) but you wouldn't accept it. I don't blame you as I'm not in a position to prove anything subjective to you. However, as the old song goes, "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." A primary duty of any law enforcement official is to uphold the law. The chap asked for his legal right to legal representation, and, clearly, it was not respected. Therefore, the interrogation was unlawful. You get no less, or no more, rights due to social position. That' s what makes them rights. You appear way too concerned with the administrative convenience of the police just because they are dealing with a down at heal character. That sort of mindset leads to totalitarianism. Minimal safeguards such as representation are there for a reason. If I had my way I'd sack any policeman who treated those safeguards with this level of contempt.
El Zong Xina2021-05-28 15:30:31 (edited 2021-05-28 15:33:27 )
@fourstar fuel I just assumed you’re not because it’s more likely, I don’t doubt you, I have no reason to, honestly you could be a student of law and claim the same thing but it is not that essential for me to believe you :) I’m a dentist dunno squat about laws except for the ones that concern my profession and I’m sure I have much more to learn! Hopefully I’ll be able to afford a good lawyer if anything happens ^^ You used a straw man argument at one point and you went into a tangent about totalitarianism but I promise you I haven’t judged the individual in the way you have suggested, I’m just curious.
@El Zong Xina thanks for your reply. Just to say it is not a straw man argument at all. The reason rights exist are to protect us from totalitarianism. Denying someone core rights is persecution, allowing govt officials to persecute citizens leads to totalitarianism. Anyway, good luck with your dentistry.
@PhantomSavage Doesn't that mean that they can question him all they want, just if he's dumb enough to talk to them before talking to his lawyer then nothing he says is admissable? Meaning they can probe for information to help give them directions to investigate, but the secondary investigative results (like them investigating a timeline based on what he said and other evidence from that) ARE all admissable? So even talking to them again without talking to a lawyer after asking for one is still a VERY bad idea for the suspect.
They aren't there to find the truth, they're there to make a case against someone they think is enough to stick. That doesn't make them bad people either, just means that they aren't on your side in any circumstance if you're in their sites and that you need to be very careful.
@Lance Handy I don't think the offer is like a contract at all, and if you say that you refuse to talk until you talk to your lawyer, but then later decide to just start blabbing on about stuff and you've said you understand your rights then you've just ceded your right to silence. You asked for a lawyer, and then decided to interact with the police before you consulted with them, and that's on you.
@George From down the hall surpression of evidence is one thing and can be argued in a pretrial hearing.. witholding someone from an attorney and continuing to question him renders the statements and the contents of recordings after the demand moot and void in court.. thats how the game is played.
@Piggish than learn the actual laws because once you ask for a lawyer and have made it clear a medical issue like drug detox will be affecting you shortly they couldnt have even used his statement in court. Small town cops trying to get anything to use against a defense later on.
@FlyGuy2000 still isnt usable. Beat my charge because I'd been clear I was detoxing from alcohol and they used that hoping I'd offer anything eventually just to have a hope of getting out. I know better but did get the things that made my stay comfortable and the whole thing stricken at trial so you can say but I lived it.
@The Review yes, but his lawyer also has the right to get it tossed since he made it clear he wasn't in his right mind. Wether it should or shouldnt work is another topic of discussion but as of now it does still work and no informed officer would've wasted their time.
@Billy Hammond that is true, I was just meaning to call out how the original comment said they violated his rights. Although, thank you for the new knowledge.
John Blood2021-05-28 21:39:56 (edited 2021-05-28 21:51:55 )
@George From down the hall never claimed i was. I just know what the rules are. Im also aware that those rules are broken routinely. Whether it be due to poor oversight, poor training or simply idiotic superiors doesnt matter.
so what. he was miranded,asked for an atty,and ? then this alleged junkie predicts his time table to start puking etc-so freeeekkin what was he denied a loiyuuh ? answering quesions ? LOL where's denial of rights ?
they can continue to interrogate and pressure until they break him. its not violating any rights. The right to remain silent means you dont have to say anything during these interrogations, it doesnt mean that you can just walts out of the interrogation
@The Review I just spent waaaay too much time out of my life reading this silly comment section and it's refreshing to see you actually live up to your name and are willing to review some shit :p
He could've just kept silent legally. Him deciding to give up information was his own problem as he was aware it was an interrogation from the beginning. Stop complaining about officers out-witting idiots. Plus no one wants to hear you talk about what you think you know. Especially when you're wrong :)
@Car Kulture I think you have an incorrect perception how most justice systems work
1. They cannot without repercussions.
2. They HAVE to care, since it's a medical condition. It's doesn't matter how or why you have that condition.
3. .... That's exactly what is happening when you ask for a lawyer. Justice can only be served if the defendant had a fair trial, which includes a lawyer at all requested times. They are legally obligated to stop the interrogation until the lawyer is there. "The wheels of justice" don't move if you bent or break the rights of people.
@Gandalf the Grey ok sounds like you have it nailed let me know after you go through the justice system if it’s as black and white as you believe it is! I wish you luck!
You'd think...but frankly cities pay out millions in lawsuits from OUR taxes instead of firing police officers that are corrupt!!
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John Blood2021-05-29 01:41:30 (edited 2021-05-29 01:43:40 )
@Senior Venus Digital Actually the right course of action if you're a legally minded officer is attempt to reestablish dialogue without asking questions pertaining to the case.
The interview in any official capacity is over when the suspect demands a lawyer and it only can continue if the suspect voluntarily begins dialogue or when the lawyer arrives. Otherwise it is a sixth amendment violation. Throughout these comments i have pointed out why, how and where this legal technicality exists, and why it is important that police not try to step on it..
The reason for them to not do so is that if it comes up in court, the defense can easily argue for, and gain the advantage if it actually went to trial, which a majority of criminal cases dont anymore.. but if it did, it could potentially put a dangerous criminal back on the streets merely due to this technicality.
Videos like this don't just exist on the premise that "duur police are evil" No,,,it's also that incompetent or officers that cut corners, can lose the state a criminal case in court and justice is not served.
@Angel Face No point. You'd need to remove the doctrine of qualified immunity. and to not allocate resources to departments based on the number of convictions or apprehensions because it puts incentive on cutting corners instead of good police work, which inevitably puts innocent people behind bars too.
Funding for police should be uniform across the board, it should be done by people with some kind of legal knowledge, and plea bargains should not be an option in the criminal justice system.. the system either works or it doesn't.. a good system works on merit, not by the willing participation of the criminal element it is supposed to stiffle.. which sadly, the latter is the way it mostly works now.
Nah, they read the rights then from that moment they try to get answers. After they finish the rights Jeff being smart knowing does not answer. They can pressure all they want regardless of his withdrawal untill it becomes a serious matter they can hold for 24 hours.
@Lance Handy they were engaging in illegal interrogation methods by holding him for an additional 5 hours after the interrogation should have ended cause he asked for a lawyer, so no.
acab is kind of simplistic, but it means that the system makes cops bad. even great cops are bad cops when they do their job. the job of policing is bad.
@Car Kulture lmao dude this is pathetic, he's factually correct and if you got convicted after asking for a lawyer, it's either cause you signed something you shouldn't have or said something unprovoked. Any lawyer on earth seeing a conviction based on info got through that interrogation would salivate cause of how easy the case would be
I agree with everything but the withdrawal thing. Benzo and alcohol withdrawal can certainly kill you. Heroin withdrawal can’t kill you. Definitely uncomfortable, worst time of your life. But not life threatening. Im sure in court he could try and say he didn’t know what was going on cause of withdrawal. but in the camera hes clearly coherent.
5th amendment rights are only invoked when a suspect makes an unequivocal request for a lawyer, David v. United States. An explicit statement of waiver isn't necessary for a defendant to effectively waive their right to council, it can be inferred, through passages such as spontaneous statements. North Carolina v. Butler. In this instance, the defendant requested the follow up interrogations spontaneously. Other accusations aside, this guy clearly waived his rights all on his own. I haven't seen any evidence from this video suggesting the police violated his 5th amendment rights. If you believe they have, point me to the specific violation with a case citation.
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S Campbell2021-05-29 05:12:52 (edited 2021-05-29 05:13:19 )
@John Blood you are correct, but wrong at the same time. My reply to the OP talks about "spontaneous statements" and "inferred waivers" that are consistent with North Carolina v. Butler. Police are obligated to terminate interrogations after an unequivocal request for a lawyer pursuant to David v. United States, but that request can easily be waived through the aforementioned routes, which did occur multiple times. Jeff waived his rights each time he requested another interrogation and each time he made a spontaneous statement following an invocation of his 5th amendment right. Not to be disrespectful, but I argue this way more than I'd like to with people who have no idea what they are talking about. If you believe my evidence to be wrong, back it up with case law to support your claim.
@Rifle Shooter Channel Imagine simping for and making excuses for law enforcement after a year of riots and lockdowns. Smh boomercons think police are on their side
Yes. And the indicator on their washing machines main dial should be worn down to complete invisibility. Leaving it ever so complicated to determine which setting it will land on. Ever so complicated indeed! Mwahahaha!
@J R id say youre wrong but explaining for the fifh time exactly why is really not worth the effort required to articulate my thumbs. Go on and read up on the laws, rights, their role in adveserial action and what happens if an officer, even unwittingly handles them wrong.
Ill direct you to read further responses ive made on this chain. Good day.
@Rifle Shooter Channel so why didn't the police stop them? Not just last year but since 2017. Oh yeah they were told to stand down and they followed orders. When they weren't kneeling with protesters. And they blocked people from opening their businesses when they weren't shutting down churches. Violation of civil liberties but it's not our fault, we're just following orders and breaking the oath to service we swore. People needed their freedoms protected and the state said "fuck you"
I was a constitutionalist once, until I realized that gun laws exist and no-knock middle of the night and early morning raids of private residences were cool.
@John Blood The decision in North Carolina v. Butler specifically refers to waiving your right to council by spontaneous statement. So your reply doesn't make any sense. These rights are often intertwined. Continuing to willfully speak with police implies you have waived your right to have council present before any questioning and simultaneously implies (obviously) you've waived your right to remain silent. Waiving your right to council before questioning doesn't mean you've waived your right to council altogether. Jeff waived both of these rights all on his own.
@S Campbell not so sure if jeff did that. Im a bit too lazy to analyze the video again, can you provide a time stamp on where it happened? Also these things tend to be more open to interpretation.
Point of fact: The term "antihero" itself was coined back in the 18th century, but it is, indeed timeless. Protagonists who fit the description date all the way back to ancient Greece.
Sometimes I play Jim's videos that I've already watched as background noise instead of music when I'm doing homework. I decided to watch the last segment of the video where the guy playing Santa in the movie says "Wish in one hand, shit in the other one and see which one fills up first" and I'm currently using every cell in my body to not laugh in the middle of class while some people are trying to read 1984.
I do have sympathy for junkies. I've seen clever people turn into thieves. Other ones die. They lie, lie, lie but you still forgive them. Prison is not for addicts
Exactly. Whilst I don't agree with stealing and manipulation you just need to look at somewhere like Denmark where their prisons are all about rehabilitation rather than punishment and they have the smallest rate of re offenders. Makes no sense putting people in a system that's gonna make them worse.
I like that - unlike Cliff, JCS doesn't roast this guy at all. I genuinely feel sorry for this man, because he's obviously a very intelligent man and easily challenges the interrogators, especially when withdrawing on Heroin.
I don't know what Jeff did. I hope that he's a good character, and if so, that he finds salvation rather than destruction. However, because I don't understand his character or his deeds, I can only withhold judgment. This is something that many people don't understand the importance of.
The only time i got interrogated the investigator pulled up to the scene of my arrest where i was pulled over. First thing i said is a want a lawyer. Released on ror next day and charges were dropped right after. Smartest thing you can say is nothing.
6:17 Probably the most impressive thing in the entire video. Jeff opened a can of Coke with his mouth. I would have found a way to cut my mouth up on it.
This part was the best part of the video in my opinion but for some reason it was removed. It the part right after Jeff asks the police officer for methadone(6:18). “Sometime the manner in which words are spoken can convey far more than the actual words themselves. The admixture of pain regret and acceptance in his voice is not only palpable but harrowing it brings us back to the essential components of the antihero. He has the singular desire to accomplish his goal to which the end justifies all means yet this desire stems from the scars of vulnerability and there are few vulnerabilities more crippling than the relentless burden of addiction”.
In other JCS videos, they say when innocent people are accused of doing something, they argue. Guilty people calmly explain that they didn't do it. Exhibit A @7:07
Zayne Van Bommel2021-12-15 05:11:13 (edited 2021-12-15 05:13:27 )
I got pingged for beating up a dude intimidating and threatening homeless Veterans (Which i was at the time) and stealing off them i warned him to stay away from the halfway house he came back around a month after his warning and tried to beat me up with a bat lol unfortunately for him i was the Battalion super heavyweight Boxing Golden Gloves two years in a row and i absolutely destroyed him he got carted off to hospital and the Police Arrested me i was 40 years old at the time and had never been arrested before in my life where as the guy who attacked me had a criminal history starting when he was 14 years old and the majority for violence the last being 8 years for aggravated Armed Robbery and threatening to kill a woman Those corrupt Cops knew about the long criminal history of the person they were defending but the judge ignored the three witnesses, the physical evidence and his past criminal history
I dont trust any cops anymore and i served in the Army and alot of the guys turn to law enforcement or the Prison service when they get out of the Army now im a convicted Criminal lol For Defending myself in my own home and doing the right thing and defending other vets lifes a joke or youd end up ending it all early but only losers do that and im no loser
We all got a little Jeff in all of us; Sick of everyone else's bullshit, sick of the systems' bullshit, feeling sick and just wanting to lie down and enjoy our sweet and spicy water.
In other words, the kind of tired sleep just won't fix.
1:30 i lost it here 🤣🤣🤣🤣 . Jeff: Playing a good cop?! Cop: No usually I’m the prick Jeff: You look like a prick🤣🤣🤣 . He knows exactly how investigation techniques are taking place. He became expert on these kind of situations.😂😂😈
Once they say, "you have the right to remain silent" why speak again. What they're actually asking is do you stand under this body of words I have just spoken. Do not answer!
I guess this is why so many want to reduce funding to the police. They would have been better off utilizing a drug counselor than sending in more troops.
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John Oher2021-12-20 19:53:08 (edited 2021-12-20 19:54:32 )
Everyone pay attention. They cannot proceed unless you've communicated on record that "I understand" The moment you agree to UNDERSTAND, you've contractually agreed to play under their system in which you will always lose.
This guy isn't anti hero he's a patriot that stood up to the government's agent games and civil rights violations. Once a person asks for an attorney all questioning must stop immediately and cannot resume until they have seen their attorney and agreed to talk. But the police officers keep interrogating him. There is nothing a police officer can say to your parole officer, to the judge or to the DA that is going to help you. The police are lying they didn't have any evidence that he committed any crime but had him locked up in a cage. The police have already made up their mind that he is guilty and no amount of explaining is going to change that. The officers only goal was to get him to admit he committed a crime to for him to admit as much circumstantial evidence that the officers could then build a case on.
Not dismissing the "he's smart theory", I'm just more inclined to see thar this man has probably been through the criminal justice system enough times to understand the system inside and out.. I would go as far as to say that he's system and street smart.. any other smart would have resulted in this man not sitting in the very seat he is sat in.. just a thought.
unfortunately a naive thought. its nice to think, im smart so i could never end up like that, but plenty of intelligent people get hurt, hooked on opioids, lose jobs, get disabled, lose support networks, and end up in situations like Jeff.
If you think it takes just being smart to not touch heroin, you're wrong. I'm far from the dumbest person around, knew the risks and all that, and let me tell you, when I was alone, isolated and suicidal, that shit was something that made it easier to get through the suffering. It did complicate things, but I had nothing else.
Don't oversimplify things where nuance can make a world of difference.
Please allow me to clarify, especially for all those who use anecdotal evidence as fact, and for those who throw out words such as 'plenty' with no statistical basis.
Smart infers more than mere intelligence, smart also incompasses a person's ability to consider and determine the choices they make in life.. those very choices include and are not limited to societies moral and ethical standards, and the law of the land.
In Western society, (I only talk of this due to my living in and understanding of it) we have a functioning, and all round wealthy society.. this is due to the people who live in it, and the taxes they pay to keep these countries running.. this would therefore infer that we have a standard of what is smart and what is not.
Smart people get up, go to work, take care of their families and upkeep the society they live in, this is done through either moral, ethical or legal requirement or all of the latter.
Smart people (society in general) make smart decisions, I can prove this with just looking around me and opening my eyes, I live in a thiving first world country where people have made smart decisions to keep it that very way.
Now, people like Jeff are the outliers of society, again we can see this with our very own eyeballs.. he has deviated from the general social construct of good morals, ethics and legal following.
Now, he may have the sadest story known to man, this I have no idea of this, and neither does anyone else, but even if that is the case, if you are of compos mentis, and understand right from wrong, and you continue to make bad decisions, you are not smart in the slightest.. you are infact a deviant by choice, and continue to degrade your community, yourself and possibly a family if you had one.
If Jeff was infact smart he would see his bad choices as a hindrance to both himself and society, I believe he does see this, due to the fact his mental state is intact, I can also see this with the level of answer he is giving the officer.. and knowing all of this, he still chooses to deviate from society for his own selfish needs.. so again, he is not smart.. the things I have said may sound heartless, buy they are not untrue.
On a final note, there are people who have had horrendous past experiences and horrendous things happen to them, yet they have made it through and have chosen to become productive members of society, so do not do those people a misjuctice.
@Loki Averro please do not presume to know me, you cannot make valid points by insulting others.. I would gladly hear a rebuttal if you had one, even if it was in contrast to my own.. I do see how my previous statement may come across as heartless, and maybe I could have indeed worded it better, however, it does not change the factual content within it.. I do see your initial point you made earlier on in the comments, and I understand what you ment by the comment, so in that regard I do respect your point of view.
Watch that show House where the main character is the best one there is at what he does but it comes some personalities that might be grotesque to the boring mainstream masses but Dr House for kicks loves to lock himself in a closet at the hospital and do fat shots of opiates “usually after a moment of stress or to reward himself” have u ever sang along to your favorite artists before. “We’ll take all your tapes and all your records and burn them because the artist that made all of them records (reeeeeeeeel fucking high on drugs)” Bill Hicks ———Tool
@Bored Your statements illustrate a fundamental lack of understanding of addiction. Addiction has nothing to do with intelligence or making "smart choices".
Honestly if they didnt have evidence against him pinned on him he has a point what evidence if got nothing on him then cant say he did it reason he dont like them because he been in jail many times and know their games way they work so hes not having it hes like you hate me i hate you you want lock me and try deceit me and i say fuck you im not talking good
There’s a very good solution to dealing with the “Jeffs” in the U.S. Do what Indonesia and other countries do, institute the death penalty for the scumbags that smuggle and traffic drugs.
@Dancing Pen I'm saying that giving the death sentence to people just because of how you feel they 'ought' to be 'dealt' with is ridiculous, I'm just building off from your comment.
@Ugandan Big Chungus Keanu Ebic Sussus Amogus Ligma It is ridiculous to just randomly murder people who have been on drugs, I agree there, but there is such a thing as punishment. You can't just ignore the crimes committed by a former addict, but the death penalty is way too much. I read another comment about how rehab itself is could be the punishment, which is okay as an idea, but difficult to build on and make effective.
Jeff is so smart whilst going through withdrawal. Imagine how much of a success he could have been in life if he had been dealt a different set of cards. Man, this guy is smarter than some presidents I’ve known of.
I love how cops try to trick you into giving up your rights. Man asked for legal counsel and these rookies keep questioning him. Jeff is the smartest person I've ever seen interrogated on your channel
Hunter S Wow thanks for describing me in a nut shell. But rest assured I’m trying REAL hard everyday to better myself and become selfless instead of allowing the aforementioned vices to dictate one’s life 💯
@Silver Ghost Mondo says meth is bad for you. You tell him that he is wrong, then proceed to say all drugs are bad. That means Mondo is right in your logic...
No, because he's a social guy that's why he does drug. You just like his conversational performance, other people invested their skills in academic/STEM areas instead. He's just simply put his points in social and acting and speaking language
Take note: he did less than 24 hours in jail, but had he talked at all, they definitely would have charged him with SOME type of crime and he'd be incarcerated to this day. He's eating a butterfinger right now, fellas. And I bet he chews with his mouth closed..
cop said no butterfinger because you didnt help me out. you mean help me make my job easier by incriminating yourself and so i can look good at work and to the prosecutor
@Coconut Xavier I just looked up his channel. His About description reads " Jeff's police encounters continued " This guy is comedy. Ha haa 😄😄. Truly using his cleverness in a way that makes him popular. Ha ha 😆
Brilliant. Jeff is Honest. Jeff is cordial. Jeff Knows his rights. Jeff needs to kick his Drug & Soda habit(s) - But otherwise: A Very Reasonable Individual.
I'm 6 and 1/2 minutes in, have read most of the comments, and still have no clue wtf I'm watching other than Jeff choosing to remain silent...sometimes.. and lots of people thinking he's a legend..oh well can't ever get those minutes back can we😂😂
@SightForMemories I remember him saying that in the video, but thank you for sharing it just the same. Was there another point besides re-stating what he'd already disclosed?
Drug addicts aren't very reasonable. They will do most anything to get their next high, including robbery, theft, and armed robbery. Anything for the short lived high. Jeff only knows the system because his actions, often criminal, put him back into it over and over again. He could get cleaned up, work an honest job, gain some weight, eat healthy and contribute more to society than keeping the justice system busy.
As someone who has been through withdrawals - I can say mental acuity is not effected. The physical impairment is horrible - but the mind remains sharp.
He knew not to talk to the police. They wont talk to you if they have a solid case. They needed him to incriminate himself. He did not and they cut him lose.
@Conrado FMC_Ny I think he told them he “was ready to talk” when he actually wasn’t because at some point I heard him say I only came here for the coke.
@Jacob Oliver r u joking? I've been a heroin addict for 17 years. In interview, after hours in the custody cells lying in the filth from my horrendous withdrawals, my mental acuity is not sharp.
@VJ M yeah. I wouldn't have been able to interview if I was dope sick. I couldn't help but want to curl up and ignore the world. Its all you can do to stop from shitting and vomiting yourself. Nothing is better than the skin crawling feeling.
So glad I'm sober. I was addicted for a decade, I just barely passed more time sober than I spent high.
For me, thinking clearly during interview does not get easier with practice! As well as injecting heroin for 17 years, I've been arrested over 40 times and imprisoned multiple times. That's why Jeff is a legend! This man is Awesome! I really hope he got clean
@schmay yeah, the more it happens the easier it is to tolerate. But, 2-3 days in without, those become bad withdrawals and you aren't going to be able to hold it together like this. He probably used that day or the day before, so he's likely not TOO bad.
@Freddie’s Overbite Practice makes perfect?? This isn’t a violin lesson! It’s obvious that you haven’t truly ever been in the throws of addiction withdrawal. There is no other way to say this except that every time I would tell myself “Ok this is the ‘last time’ I’m doing drugs, time to get clean!” THAT withdrawal would be seven times worse than the last time! So don’t sit there and talk about ‘practice makes perfect’! By the way, the last time... was the last time. I’ve been clean for 5 years. It’s still hard to hear somebody rattling a pill bottle. But my point is that the only way ‘practice makes perfect’ can come into play is through recovery, not withdrawal.
@BreakfastClub they probably offered the coke and he probably said "I'll come up there and have a coke but I'm not gonna tell you shit" and they took their chance.
@schmay that's actually not true at all, AT ALL. it's ALWAYS unbearable, however the severe WD symptoms don't start until about the second or third day in. And everybody has different severity in symptoms, and it also depends on how much he's been using, and it's very VERY likely that he is on Suboxone.
@Jacob Oliver that's not true either, because of the fact the WD is in your BRAIN... there's a lot of uneducated ppl giving horribly WRONG answers in this comment section.
@Layne Doe thank you! As a recovering drug addict of almost 10 years I thank you! Today it just seems like a different life or a different person. 😊 have a great day!!
I can believe a person could sit in that small room with no fan or some kind of ventilation (maybe it has?). I could smell the sulfur/rotten eggs everytime he burped. 🤮
Dude, what? That's objectively untrue. As someone who just got off methadone after IV heroin use years ago, so who has also been there, and as someone who has looked into what to expect during methadone withdrawal in particular (they say calmer but longer, I say the length makes it worse, but I digress)... there are psychological symptoms.
The angry sneezes of PAWS aren't even the only thing. Even in this non-acute withdrawal, psychological symptoms exist.
Fogginess, lack of sleep, severe anxiety and frustration... these are absolutely symptoms.
Just wanna clear this up. Coz yeah, you gotta be very clear about this stuff. SO much misinformation, even among users themselves.
Especially coz it depends on the individual. Different people will have different symptoms. It's like the flu, y'know? Symptoms vary.
You don't go into withdrawals until 24 hours. Jeff was experiencing absolutely zero withdrawal symptoms. Plus he had a very good appetite Coca-Cola and chocolate
@Safet Cucaj 24 hours? I'd start jonesing around 10-12 hours. After that it was horrible. I knew some really hardcore guys that had to shoot up every 4 hours. Depends on how much you're doing. At least that was my experience.
He could definitely either just be buying drugs in jail or thinking about getting out so he can use again to power him thru it. Or maybe just a strong person but if he can manipilate so well I could def see him seeking out anything to help withdrawel that was available around him
Opiate withdrawal is so ruthless. Imo. Suboxone and thank the heavens everyday I don't have to suffer withdrawal pain anymore. Feels like your being microwaved.
As an opioid addict myself I can admit that it has a lot to do with how much options you have. When you sit at home and have the option to go to a spot and buy stuff, you cannot imagine the war in your head. But when you’re locked up and you know there won’t be a way today, it gets way easier. Still hell tho.
@Jacob Oliver actually when I was in withdrawals I was sometimes even in a better mental state then using, because there was no self hate for the use. I was proud going through it.
@Jacob Oliver it’s weird. Like my first successful withdrawal was the best time in the last 3 years, although it was physically the worst withdrawals I’ve ever had in my whole life, went two weeks cold turkey and was awake for fucking 4 days before I collapsed, it was HELL. But i knew I will make it and It gave me my hope back.
@Jacob Oliver the mind remains sharp. I would say the mind even gets SHARPER and better when you’re sober for a few days the first time in years. Opioids luckily don’t change people like cocaine does if you know what I mean. You can get your mind out of it without damage, I’m somehow happy that opioids catched me, not meth or coke.
@tamo 96 yes my last one was the worst. Never experienced anything like it. I was totally OUT OF ORDER for a month.
But I did it. Cold turkey. I came out the other end wiser. Better.
It was almost like...serving in a war...minus the war. Sorry to those who HAVE served. I'm talking out my ass - I know that.
And then at the other end - colors seemed vivid. Emotions of course ran high - but im not afraid anymore. To exhibit emotion. To be stoic. Whatever. I'm not pandering to anyone.
And I'm under no illusions of being "better".
I'm just here on this planet. And I'm not gonna be a downer. Im gonna enjoy myself. My family.
Maybe even my friends (the herd of dumbasses that somehow I became part of)
I think people are just dumbasses. I'm just a smart ass. Or...hard ass. What were we talking about?😎
@Jacob Oliver and you are allowed to be proud! You beat something that breaks the most souls in half and I think no one of us can say that he did not lost a part of his soul to addiction. Im proud of you too and you motivate me, I’ve cuttend down so much, I don’t even get dope sick no more but I can’t cut it off completely. I’m so close tho.
@Jacob Oliver the war metaphor! I also use it. It is indeed going to war in your head and you fight ALL DAY ALL NIGHT I mean it’s so fucking hard. Someone never experienced it could never imagine what that is. You know the feeling, 3 days awake, just surviving and you know, this shit is going to last until it’s over and there won’t be a single second in the next weeks where you ain’t fighting for you goddamn life.
@Jacob Oliver it’s a Choice how we handle addiction. The withdrawals might get me but I’m never ever letting myself getting fucked from those dark thoughts and depressions without my dope again. It’s my life. I’m happy I made that choice, never gave up in all those years. It’s a hard stretch sometimes but we have to fight on until we win this war, or we will lose fucking everything. The sun will shine at the end of the tunnel, I’m sure 100%
I think he is likable for me because I see potential in him. He’s actually very intelligent (especially with heroin brain fry) and down to earth, no BS. People are tired of BS. He has a lot of potential, hope he can get clean.
Alex Loomis2021-03-25 14:08:34 (edited 2021-03-25 14:09:03 )
We've got to unlearn what we think about drugs. Opioids don't make you stupid. Folks need to realize that there are highly intelligent , and functioning users across the world. The biggest downfall for addicts is if you're impoverished. Every problem in 🇺🇸 can be directly linked to poverty. Every issue is much easier to deal with when you've resources. And money is the greatest resource there is here.
@Alex Loomis Yup. The "War on Drugs" was, is, and will always be total b.s. America needs to unlearn what we "think" (have been indoctrinated to believe) about drugs.
God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
@nigga turd God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
@Positivebird 000 I study how society effects people's lives. Criminology is a subfield. Basically, I understand we we create criminals as much as they make their own decisions. Like how we ruin people's lives over some marijuana. It's not random.
Jeff is the master of the long con. 14 years an "addict" Multiple felons In and out of prison Fakes a robbery Plants a gun Answers no questions Talks to no pricks Walks away with 4 cans of coke My hero Jeff
I’m confused I watched the entire video while reading the comments all praising Jeff’s intellect... waiting for some payoff.. common fucking sense at play here holy shit people
@Jo Slow it's because he does the right thing. It's not heroic or difficult yet many people far better than him have failed at just not talking to the police.
@Ron Becker An anti hero is usually a protagonist who accomplishes good things but not because of social values but rather his own. Jeff is no anti hero.
If someone took the time to help this dude, he'd be a good guy. He just sounds like a good dude who has gone through some bad shit, and coped with it in a bad way. The cops were trying to exploit him, rather than help him.
Trying to exploit him? You mean just trying to get his side of the story so they can figure out who ROBBED SOMEONE A GUN. Lol. Man this feel bad bs is getting dumb. No one knows the truth bit everyone is so quick to say "hes just a good guy in a bad spot" pfft. Go hangout with him then
@Luis Sanchez The cops play games with people, every time they sit someone in that room. All these tactics and strategies they use against people are exploitation. Its justice when the guy is guilty, but exploitation when the guy is innocent. Where do you draw the line?
@The Trend Do you think somebody gave him a pat on the back and a peptalk and he quit heroin or do you think the taxpayers spent close to $1 million so he doesn’t relapse for two years
@Suzy Rottencrotch It's not irrelevant, you just want to come in here and spew venom. Please take your poison elsewhere, nothing you have to say is beneficial, fact based or anything that is of significance. Bye
@Dan C. That is not how it works pal. Most criminals don't care about getting better. Most of the time, their goals are to figure out ways to get sympathy from people. There are reasons why criminals reform rate is low
@Luis Sanchez ... So why did they keep him in when there was no evidence against him? If your argument is that he could've provided them information, he could've been called in for questioning instead of arrested. Literally braindead argument
Cops are trained to get everybody in jail wether guilty or not ,they couldn't care less, they are part of a system and they obey automatically to their trainings, the way they see it...it their job ,let the judicial system to continue to deal with the accused, after they've done ...they call the next person in. We are all trained to act in certain ways since we're kids .
Hehe......Up lil the 2min mark when it goes gray you can't tell. Then, you may kinda see the crease or difference in shade at the meeting of the slipper and the inside of his foot. At bout the 6min mark I was like, "Dude aint go no wiggle to his toes....It's one BIG ASS TO........ohh! shit......They're flesh colored slippers. Dastardly." Their persistence shouldn't be allowed, especially with cameras. Some people could just be in a bad mood not want to talk to the cops and lawyer up as he does. Then, that's "game over. Red Rover!" Shiiiiiid! They know this too and assume some are clearly upset and do so not knowing of their rights. Doesn't allow for incessant badgering, bruv! Well done, el Jeffe! Well done, Lad!
@Jacob Pickerin false. his youtube channel is linked in the description of this video and he explains that we was throw in prison for two more years on unrelated charges.
Jacob Lyman Bro, this may come as a shock but they consider you guilty anyway hence being in police custody in the first place. Always get a brief even if your a yank and it has to be a public defender to start with
Yep. We have several attorneys in my family, and it’s a well established rule that if ANYONE is ever arrested or feel uncomfortable while talking to the police, you should ask for an attorney. They might try to punish you by putting you in jail and delaying, if they can. They will definitely claim that only a guilty person would ask for their attorney, but it’s a tactic designed to discourage you because they know that once a lawyer gets involved they can no longer lie during interrogations with you.
@SCP Monthly well, for instance e. coli bacteria is literally everywhere. theres a mythbusters episode showing it on your toothbrush, even if you put it in a plastic bag inside the freezer. every wonder how it got there? thats right, its me :)
@Patrick Bateman Hey man, Jeff is the type of guy who does what he wants. Jeff likes heroin so Jeff does heroin because that's what Jeff wants, he doesn't give a shit.
@Hunter Murphy maybe I should have said relatively reasonable but I digress
and that's not what the original comment was referring to but ok it doesn't matter
all I was saying was that using the word harassment is a bit harsh since the interrogator wasn't really intimating him or being overly rude he even gave him two cokes and I don't really think it's the interrogator's fault that that they stuck him in that room for over 5 hours
@Hunter Murphy - He was there with no lawyer out of his own volition. He could've had a lawyer, but he decided he wanted free Cokes & a Butterfinger. If you had bothered to listen instead of being a sniveling sjw, you would have caught on to that. Apart from that, he was taken to the cell at least three times. You can see when the cops take him away & the tape cuts. By exercising a little common sense, you could have deduced that more than was caught on tape was going on in real time. After all, you never saw him bargain for the extra Coke & Butterfinger, though you did see him question the officer about it at the end of the video.
@Marble Madness damn you went from some credibility to none so so quick it’s crazy!
We know he was taken in and out. The point was, first time he said “I want a lawyer” the interview is LEGALLY over, yet the officer pressured and pressured. Eventually he decided to do it for the Coke, but the point was, what they did is actually much worse than being an addict
@Noah Thompson if you say you need a lawyer the conversation should be done until the lawyer gets there . Not annoy for a confession. That’s just not professional.
@Vives yes I know that but really the interrogator was doing his job He should’ve ended it there but he kept it going for a few more minutes
Again you’re using the word annoy when the original commenter used harassment And whatever the reason good or bad the interrogator went back in He was probably told to go back in So harassment is definitely the wrong word to use
@Michaela Volanková first of all I was talking about the first interrogation not the whole 5 hour time span
how is it the interrogator's fault he's in there it's not his job to put him in there just to interrogate him
and at the end of some of the interrogations you can clearly see that they're about to leave how is that the interrogator's fault tell me how was the interrogator harassing him
@Wanderingjew and how is it the interrogator's fault he's in there all I'm arguing is that the interrogator is not harassing him I mean the most bad thing about the interrogator you can say is that he didn't admittedly stop after Jeff asked for a lawyer after that isn't really his fault because someone probably asked him to go back in
@Marble Madness mans said sjw lmao. It aint 2015 bro
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@N13TZ uh cops do try to force convictions bud... We even see it happen on this channel in other videos.... That is literally their job when they are in that room to get a conviction because once you are sitting in that chair they think you are guilty regardless.
Plus my entire point is once he said he wanted a lawyer they should have quit questioning him and got him lawyer. Instead they keep bringing him back in every few hours while he's going through withdrawals so they can try and take advantage of that fact.
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@Noah Thompson fine harassment is technically the wrong word they were manipulating him is that better? or at least trying to manipulate him. I still personally believe it was harassment but still. They also knew he was going through withdrawals and used that to their advantage I'm sure.
I'm just saying once he says he wants a lawyer they need to quit with that sneaky crap trying to incriminate him when he already said he's not talking.
Harassment is the right word in my opinion. Once asked for a lawyer they must stop all questions and get you a lawyer, as per a person's right. If they ask any more questions after, other than showing understanding of what you said like "you want a lawyer?", is violating a person's rights. What is violating a person's rights? Harassment. That's what it is. Manipulating to get him to confess/incriminate himself for a few cokes and a butterfingers after he already asked for a lawyer? Also harassment. People can describe it however they want. Any further questions or "come on man's" is harassment and illegal. If someone is innocent they're rights are taken away, if it's a criminal, the case can be dropped because of the police's actions to continue questioning after a lawyer is requested. Idc if he's guilty or not, it's still harassment. Idc if the police are just trying catch a bad guy. They still shouldn't have continued questioning him.
@Bobby Australia that's not what I meant remember I was talking about harassment maybe I used the wrong word but you should know what context I was using the word for but whatever my bad he wasn't insulting or being hostile towards Jeff also chill don't know why you're getting mad
@Alabastine why it's not his fault that he was in the room that whole time he did not end it when he asked for a lawyer which is bad but eventually he left probably the people made him go back he even got him a soda
@Marble Madness detaining someone and charging them without access to legal representation is a violation of rights. no amount of your sniveling is going to change that fact. if you happen to be innocent in which jeff might of very well been, then you have to really know your rights and know that the police dont care, arent there to help you, and want to wrap you up and move on asap.
@Wanderingjew yeah and he stopped a minute later maybe two and that's harassment to you really? and if you wanna argue well he went back in for sure the people at the precinct made him go back in there
my point is pretty simple I don't think it's the interagtors fault (except for staying two more minutes after saying he wanted a lawyer) other than that I doubt he wanted to go back in and interrogate since he asked for a lawyer
Jeff is wearing Martha Stuart Blu Collection 2009. Tho Jeff The "Anti-Hero" Does Indeed Opt for the Snoop Dawg Sequin Shawl as his flight cape, unfortunately, capes are not allowed in jail as are shoes apparently. While the narrator asks us to put ourselves in the shoes of an addict, I find this quite an impossible task since said junkie is currently SANS FUCKING SHOES BRUH... I say....SAVE THE COKE and GIVE THIS HILLBILLIE SUM METH_A_DON_EEEEEEEEEEE
Coke cast in a commercial delivering cokes, loading the machines, drinking Cokes, waving at neighbors, getting an old lady's cat outta a tree all while handcuff. He's good! I can't even remember my safe word...
Jeff is so much smarter than the cop to the point the cop didn't even realize how bad his position was. When you say you have evidence and the suspect says "like what?" It means he doesn't believe you. The response of "why should I tell you?" Comes off as really desperate.
@Gav Art Yeah when the dude says that they aren't there to hurt you or catch you or whatever it's obvious bullshit. Like why would they interrogate you if they didn't think you could've been the one who committed the crime?
He’s so much smarter that he has heroin addiction, Is/was locked up in a county jail, can barely talk and is overall showing lack of respect and education. If that’s what being smart leads you to then I’d rather be stupid (as opposed to being smart).
Doug Martin I genuinely thought you said smart referring to his individual being, I apologize for the misunderstanding. I stand by my latest comment anyway.
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@Rick Turner I agree that some people are born by the majority's standards as pure evil beings, un-salvageable souls. However, because rampant police corruption and incompetence, innocent people have been serving hundreds of years of prison. It could happen to anybody so it's not a bad skill to be interrogation smart. Everything is relative, intelligence, smarts, skills. I would like to see you how you'd fare in an interrogation. You show no empathy for people less lucky in life which may be an indication with who you have voted last elections. You have this fixed idea in your head that hard work alone fixes everything and will eventually rise you to a comfortable and fulfilled life. It's not.
Dealing with a suspect who is this savvy about these aspects of the law is probably outside of his experience. Most suspects would either begin defending themselves, explaining themselves, or confessing to whatever (volunteering information that the cops wouldn't have had otherwise), and here's Jeff, who just coolly says that he doubts their claims. Jeff probably had a good attorney at some point in the past who explained to him where and how he had messed up during a previous arrest, and he paid attention.
Mircea Ion well you’ve got some valid points right there but what makes you think that I have no empathy for people who are less lucky in life? What makes you think I’m not one of them? As shown in the video, the convict said he’s already been locked up because of the same reason and he was just annoyed by the fact the this time they were giving him a solid interrogation. With that being said I’d still like to point out the fact that he’s still showing no respect or any kind of education for that matter. As you may be able to tell I’m no interrogation “smart” as you said but what makes a person interrogation smart then? And secondly I decided not to vote these last elections since the options given were quite “surprising”. The passive aggressive attitude you showed towards the end of your response to my comment makes me think that I might have said something to offend you, if that’s the case then I apologize, that is certainly not my intention I just thought I’d give my honest and humble opinion. Have a good day.
When the cop said "Why should I tell you?" I knew he was bluffing, or at least he was making an attempt to exaggerate the situation to tidy up the case on his table. A proper cop would not have said that, it comes off like a brag, a proper cop wouldn't do that tit for tat shit in such an aggressive manner.
@Rick Turner Im torn, your comments towards fellow Youtubers are quite reasonable yet you judge Jeff harshly and make multiple assumptions in my opinion: (uneducated and not very smart, disrespectful, a criminal) Remember that: #1: He is a 10+ year opioid addict currently in withdraw, surrounded by officers trying to get him to incriminate himself and we have no notion as to how much rest, food, and potential negative interactions he has received/experienced.
#2: Anyone of any intelligence can become addicted, its a misunderstood and devistating disease and while the person suffering from addiction does retain some degree of responsibility for it there are almost countless other factors to keep in mind when on the topic of addiction, specifically in America in this case potential factors such as: Economic/financial hardships, personal hardships/health, America's poor response to the drug problem "The War on Drugs" (prohibition, black markets, unregulated, misuse of funds), America's Judicial system (inherent biases and inconsistencies with some drugs [alcohol, sugar, caffeine, nicotine and pills] vs others [Marijuana/cannibinoids, Amphetamines, opioids, psycotropics, disassociatives, etc]), America's criminal justice system (reprimand vs rehabilition, #1 per capita incarceration rate, difficulty being successful after going through the system/lack of social net and the typical intermingling of hardened criminals and gang culture with nonviolent criminals/incarcerated in prison), America's lack of priority on rehabilitation and mental health centers, etc...
#3: Just remember, anybody can make poor life choices and their problems can become exponentially worse when the past/current residence, financial status, opportunities available, ethnicity, societal hardships, physical/mental/emotional health status, past experience with legal drugs (alcohol, pain management, antidepressants, etc) peers, governing bodies (county, state, federal) and its legislation/enforcement are taken into account. I would encourage you to judge others as you would have them judge you or your loved ones and even if people out there can really dig their own holes to keep in mind theres often, dare say always, more to people and their actions than meets the eye.
#4: Especially in this day and age when information can be biased, cherry picked, incomplete and often lacking on such subjects. Be wary of making assumptions and falling to cognitive biases. Ex. Just because Jeff has a country accent doesnt make him dumb or uneducated, just because he has been through the criminal system doesnt automatically make him a criminal/bad person, just because he has a little trouble speaking doesnt mean he is dumb, just because he has used drugs doesnt make him dumb, etc... [not saying you made these exact assumptions or that they are or are not true for Jeff, just providing examples].
I hope you read this and understand where Im coming from, wether or not Jeff is mainly the one at fault isnt entirely relevant because those judgements dont apply to everybody who share similarities in their life story and there is much to be improved upon to limit the number of peoples facing similar problems, and problems of all kinds we see in our country today. Have a good one.
My childhood friend is exactly like this. He does not care in the slightest who he is talking to, he is always the same. It's a pleasure hanging out with him lmao
@Riooo He's actually doing pretty good, was working as a bouncer for a long time. Maybe one of the ideal jobs for him and his demeanour lol. He's also pretty much the same person, still.
I FELT that 💀💀😭 ive never been on heroin but ive been takin painkillers for a damn long time and also the fact he says “long time buddy” when he cracks the coke had me dead lmao
@godsent gg I didn't want to believe you at first, but glad I clicked. This has turned into a surprisingly good ending. When will we get Jeff The Movie?
Kaboom.Not in recovery.Drip feeding cops facts they already know slowly.He go thru a case of coke.Once u request a lawyer interview terminates.Next time they speak to you is in the presence of your lawyer.He can even answer for you.Its illegal to put you in the cells & keep coming back & asking if you want to talk.The person in custody should not be able to change his mind once his made his decision.The only questions they asking is incriminating to you whether u did or didn't do shit.You won the police union lottery today. Your it.
@snarley shark cops are an authority and people forget that. You must OBEY a cops order he is not your average citizen. And no, since america is made of 300M people there are actually very few bad cops situations.
@Mark Jones At Large lol 300m cops and 90% are bad guys? what a joke. Strange how you americans know all the black's names who got killed which make me think there aren't as many as you all cry about. Most cops are good guys or your society wouldnt be standing. Withaut cops there can be no civilization
Here in Canada asking for a lawyer doesn’t mean shit. I spent 5 hours on video saying nothing but the words “I want a lawyer” “let me talk to a lawyer” and sometimes spelling “l-a-w-y-e-r” and never spoke to a lawyer 😂
@Jamie Kirby By law they have to get you a phone to call a lawyer within 3 hrs. of asking , if they don't and it goes to trial you will get the charges dismissed. Make sure you ask to talk to the supervisor on duty and make the request to him/her.
Same thing I said. I thought once you lawyer-up they aren't allowed to keep pressing. "You have the right to have an attorney present before and during questioning" is just a trick of some sort to get you to talk, I guess...?
I think he was being brought back because he kept playing them and pretending like he would talk for a coke. He would get his coke and say take me back to my cell
By law? He's entitled to a lawyer. But inside those walls, the cops can hold on the lawyer for as long as they want. What they wanted was to both imprison him and comfort him so that he accepts that situation and just takes it and confesses to something he didn't do (I don't think he did).
They kept him in that room, in that facility, where he might experience withdrawal and become vulnerable, but also he was fed and freed from the handcuffs. The cops wanted him to trust them because he'd never budge if they antagonized him. That Aaron guy was probably thrown into this as well, maybe illegal possession of a gun they found in his house? They probably were all junkies, I doubt a healthy dude would let Jeff hit it off in his house. They took in some poor junkie with a criminal record because no fuss would come out of it and they have a quota. They don't want to leave empty handed.
In the US, once you ask for an attorney the cops are supposed to immediately stop any form of questioning/interrogation.. and your lawyer will strongly advise not to talk to the police. A lot of people say they understand their rights, but as these videos show.. they obviously don't. Cops aren't your friends inside of an interrogation room. So once they say you're under arrest for whatever crime, you should say "i want an attorney" and "I'm exercising my right to stay silent." From what I've seen and read, Canada seems to be kinda sketchy when it comes to all this though.
SCOTUS has recently clarified the demand for a lawyer during an interrogation. Any reference to a “lawyer” and the cops must immediately stop questioning and determine if the suspects wants a lawyer.
@Jamie Kirby Similar in Michigan, near your border, not that I have personal experience, I just hear it from defense lawyers. They'll let you sit for around six hours to see if you'll crack before they get their acts together and let you talk to yours. And people say, if you comply, they'll let you...lies.
He’s just at the very very beginning of withdrawals... and I’m guessing he’s kicked, cold turkey, on the cold cement and steel of the cells. Anticipating the inevitable sickness can be worse than the actual sickness sometimes.
9:28 At that exact moment, when Jeff said "I want a lawyer", the detective had a duty to stop questioning Jeff and get him a lawyer. Trying to convince him to keep talking is a blatant violation of his 5th and 6th Amendment rights, as was the continued attempts to get him to talk by the second detective.
but he did stop interrogating him though. less than 1 minute later Jeff was on his way back to his cell. they can still talk to you after you request a lawyer, it's just not admissible in court. but they still want you to keep talking because you might give up some useful information. like if Jeff asked for a lawyer and then told the police where he hid whatever he stole the police can find that stolen property and get his prints off it. his confession might not be admissible, but that stolen property would be.
@Alfredo Amaya yes there is. even if anything you say isn't admissible that doesn't mean you won't give them information that may lead to further evidence they might find indirectly. let's say you've been arrested for murder and ask for a lawyer, and while waiting for that lawyer you told the police where you hid the murder weapon. now, even though your confession may not be admissible that murder weapon definitely is. that's why they want to keep you talking, and that's why you need to shut up even after you've asked for an attorney. they don't have to stop talking just because you invoked your right to counsel.
@Corn Pop You're so wrong dude. Police have to stop asking questions once you ask for a lawyer and trying to bribe suspects into talking again without one is incredibly illegal. I'm not blowing anything out of proportion, it's the freaking law.
@Christopher Aaron yes you are, and you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. you've obviously never been in either one of those seats before, and you're not a lawyer. I've done 5 years so I know a thing or two about the system. Coke and a candy bar aren't bribes. here's a news flash for you: they actually have to feed you in jail. shocking, I know, but true.
@Corn Pop exactly, they have to feed him regardless of whether or not he talks. In the video its clear that they said that they would only get him food if he would come with them. He invoked both his right to remain silent and to get a lawyer, neither was fulfilled. He said that he has a heroin addiction, and that he would be going through withdrawal if medical care was not provided to him. No medical care was provided, which is illegal, and they purposefully held him for 12 hours in an attempt to make his withdrawal symptoms get worse - so that he would just confess, regardless of if he did the crime or not. What the cops were doing here was wrong, no question about it. Might wanna re watch the video to catch everything said again.
@Corn Pop The police must immediately stop probing if the detainee invokes either the right to remain silent or the right to counsel. If the suspect invokes the latter, questioning must cease until counsel is available. But if the detainee invokes only the right to remain silent, the police may reinitiate questioning at a later time, provided that they honor the right to remain silent.
@Johnny P What's that supposed to mean? The law is the law. The fact that police don't follow the law is a huge problem, so don't act like it's just how it goes, because that's how they get away with doing it again and again.
@Christopher Aaron Do they count as bribes if they're asked for? Pretty sure the law allows officers to give people shit like that to aid with compliance.
@Corn Pop Yes, it is bribery. And the fact that you're a convicted criminal doesn't make you an expert either. You may know "a thing or two" but that's the extent of what you know, there's a million other things you clearly don't know.
you watch toooooooo much bs tv. again, you think there's unlimited amount of public defenders and they can JUMP right there ? he COULD keep quiet,ignore them etc. how is there a VIOLATION ? get real.
@Hoagie Lamp Not after he's invoked his 6th Amendment right to a lawyer. He clearly said "I want a lawyer." They don't have the right to do anything to "aid with compliance" after he asks for a lawyer. They have to immediately shut down all questioning.
@no name Again, it's the 6th Amendment to the Constitution. The availability of public defenders is irrelevant. They have to shut down the interrogation until he has a lawyer. It's not "bs tv", it's the fucking law.
@no name Thankfully you're not in charge of legislation surrounding police interrogations. Questioning someone repeatedly for hours creates undue pressure and they know that. Their goal is to get a conviction.
@Christopher Aaron I know they broke the law, I'm curious as to whether it's actually illegal to comply with demands for sodas or candy bars when they get back in the interrogation room.
@Hoagie Lamp They used the promise of coke and a butterfinger to get him back into the interrogation room without a lawyer, so yes, it was extremely illegal.
@Christopher Aaron Is there any evidence of that? You must be pulling from external sources because the only footage in this video is from the interrogation room.
@Christopher Aaron I tell you what, if you ever get arrested for something please tell the judge you were bribed with a Coke and do the suprised Pikachu face when he laughs at you and doesn't dismiss your charges. lol.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. If the police find out information through illegal means, any evidence uncovered by that information is not admissable in court either. It is a tenet called "fruit of the poisoned tree."
@Christopher Aaron No, the law is a vague suggestion that's only listened to in like 1% of the situations. The only law that has to be listened to is that which is enforced. Otherwise, nobody has to do crap.
@Christopher Aaron I'm not sure how someone who knows the police are corrupt can consider "the law only matters when it's enforced" to be stupid, but I don't have two first names so I guess that's what's needed to get it.
@Christopher Aaron your last 4 words are was is most important...you can ask for a lawyer but they will still keep prying as long as they dont think they are wasting their time...the lawyer is for your defense but they might be trying to get info to pin on someone else...just like you see here...it was aarons gun, they wanted to know about that and arrested this guy to try and strongarm him...if someone asks for a lawyer but doesnt shut up, that is on them, cheers
The right to remain silent is not the same as a right to an attorney. You can tell them you wish to remain silent and in many jurisdictions they can still question you. HOWEVER, the right to an attorney is dif and once you invoke that right ALL questioning needs to stop. If I was back at law school and looking over this as a hypo, with the facts given, my argument would be that the second interview should not be allowed because he invoked his right to an attorney and still wasnt provided. HOWEVER there is a question with regards to how the second interview began. If Jeff made contact and offered to talk for X Y and Z then there may be an issue regarding his waiver of his right to an attorney. Yet, we also must consider the reality vs what the reality should be and there are many cases of cops furthering their interrogation after ones right have been invoked, and you can imagine there are many more instances of this type of violation that is not litigated over. But, back to the legal side of it, it all this depends on the jurisdiction and the jurisprudence within the jurisdiction with regards to the right to an attorney, and of course none of this is legal advice and is just a hypothetical analysis.
@Sibte A It happens all the time in jail that it can take weeks to get methadone for someone, at least from what I've been told. Chances are, by the time you get your methadone, you've probably already gone through your detox cold turkey and you're pretty much done kicking. I don't know if it's that common everywhere obviously, but I've heard that story more than once in my county. It's freaking horrible that they do that to people.
@Corn Pop I agree that offering food as leverage isn't necessarily a bribe (provided they haven't asked for legal council, which he did in this case) but saying "Sure, but anything you say here I can also tell you parole officer [if] you help me out" at 13:10 definitely is an attempt at a bribe, at least from the suspect's point of view.
@Philosophy Of Élivágar I can see how people could interpret it as a bribe, but technically it isn't. by law a bribe is trying to influence a person holding a public or legal duty. when you're a convict or even a suspect you're not a public or governmental agent, so legally it's not a bribe. they all do it so it can't be illegal lol. anyone who's done any time will tell you a snitch will jump on your case just to get a Mcdouble and some fries. it happens hundreds of times every day at every jail/prison in the country and nobody ever says anything about it, including those who could benefit greatly from it.
@Corn Pop In the UK at least, bribery is defined as "the act of giving or receiving a financial or other advantage in connection with the "improper performance" of a position of trust, or a function that is expected to be performed impartially or in good faith." So no, you don't need to legally be a public servant to accept bribes, it's just that they mostly coincide with corruption investigations
Telling a man that he will receive an advantage if he "comes clean" not only discounts the actual impartial investigating the detective is supposed to do, it risks tainting the investigation with false evidence - what if the guy's friend genuinely had nothing to do with it but he wanted a good word so he ratted him anyway?
Again, just because it is common doesn't mean it can't be fought in a court of law, OP was only saying things he could fight in court, albeit the coke was a crap example compared to the several other times the detective implied a shady exchange.
EDIT: put it this way, if the det. said "if you don't tell me then I'm going to have a word with your parole officer about stopping you from seeing your kids," it would be extortion, this is simply the opposite of that.
Something about this seems wrong to me too... But it also seems to happen regularly without penalty... On this very channel, people ask for lawyers and then are continually questioned, sometimes for hours... It definitely seems wrong
@Alphonsus Ho And that's a problem. Breaking the law doesn't become ok just because they do it all the time. That's a serious constitutional problem that needs to be fixed.
@alex4alexn Not according to court rulings. Police have to stop questioning, bottom line. No ifs, ands or buts. They can't try to convince someone to keep talking after asking for a lawyer.
@PosthumanHeresy Civilians don't swear an oath to uphold the law and the Constitution. Police do. So yes, it's a much bigger deal when police break the law and violate rights. Derp.
@PosthumanHeresy The 6th Amendment to the Constitution is "a vague suggestion"? That's the most stupid comment I've ever read. The Constitution itself says it is an "unalienable right." Unalienable means it can never be taken away under any circumstances. The courts have upheld that right countless times.
@Christopher Aaron they also arnt suppose to profile either...but they are going to do what they want. Confessions are thrown out all the time for crap like this and you just hope they go by the book...cheers
@Christopher Aaron Okay, tell me what part of the detective's questions AFTER Jeff asked for a lawyer was unconstitutional? The detective was simply complaining that Jeff pulled that move.
Moreover, one of the rights you have after asserting your 5th amendment right is also the right to waive that right at any time and start talking.
So I guess I'm interested in what you are basing your unconstitutional claim on. Genuinely curious, not an internet battle. I see there's a lot of replies on this thread but I haven't read through all of them because it's a lot and seems like a lot of bickering. Also, notifications for youtube comments don't work for me for whatever reason. Not sure why
@Alex R First, the fact that they tried to discourage him from speaking to a lawyer. They can't do that.
Second, the fact that they brought him back in to the interrogation room the next day without a lawyer with the promise of a coke and a butterfinger. They can't use treats to lure someone back into the interrogation room after the suspect has asked for a lawyer.
Also, we're talking about the 6th Amendment, not the 5th. And he didn't ever waive that right.
@hapakaja when I was using I never had any such cravings. Actually it was the opposite, I felt like whenever I ate something it'd make me come down a little. I always felt the effects of the drugs better on an empty stomach
Cop: Let me read this. Jeff: No! Cop: Yes! Jeff: Cause I'm not gonna sign it! Cop: You don't have to sign it. Let me read it for you. Jeff: I'm not signing nothing. Cop: You don't have to sign it. We'll read it. Jeff: You already read it to me earlier. Cop: I know we did, but Imma read it to you again. Jeff: Thanks for the Coke. Cop: You're welcome.
I love this comment as it gives me hope! I haven’t had personal experience with addiction because my mental health intervened before I had the chance to get addicted to substances (though I do realize I’d easily end up down that road if in the wrong place at the wrong time) My time in intensive outpatient programs and inpatient/ psych ward etc, I have met people with addictions and Ive loved them. And they have an illness, as do I. We’re not so different, Which stands even in terms of the public and demonizing us and wanting us to suffer in prison instead of be helped to better ourselves even if we never are the “ideal” members of society.
It’s the same team, and our stigmas are incredibly similar if not actually the same. Just wish it was easier to help people understand and be able to feel something about those of us who cannot help bad situations out of pure unlucky circumstance.
@Amie Crowsong idk if you have mental health problems now but people with depression are really prone to addiction maybe thats why you feel a similarity
I've had enough people in my life who have went to rehab and then went right out as soon as they could and continued on drugs. Thats not gonna do anything unless the person is truly willing, and he doesn't seem like that.
@Ben McMillian Even then, addiction isn’t solved by throwing someone in a cell with other violent people. Our prison system doesn’t heal or rehabilitate, and only breeds more hatred and violence. The places with the lowest crime rates on the planet all have one thing in common- a prison system that focuses on rehabilitation for those who can be saved rather than caging them in, tormenting them, and then throwing them back into the world and telling them to cope. People cope the only way they know how, and often times- for people thrown in jail for drug charges, that ends up being more drugs.
@Yandere boy enthusiast there are judges in america who have a 85% reduction in reofences because of their creative "punishments" jail should only be for violent people in my opinion like rapists and murderers and repeat offenders. Everything else should be some form of community service righting the wrong. It is supposed to be a punishment though not an all inclusive vacation.
@Scott Yeomans You're being generous. I've been in more times then care to admit. Every rehab i went to they (professionals) would always start by saying "out of the 30-40 people in this room right now, one or two will remain clean/not relapse.
@Ruggard Newsflash, heroine doesn't make you confident. If anything, anxiety is typically heightened dramatically during withdrawals Like him or not, confident is an apt description in how he presents
As a recovering addict, I can tell you how friggin hard it is to do anything at all while dopesick, or in withdrawal.let alone act like this. This guy got some deep well of reserve energy he's able to tap.
@Chloe Kit yes, it's quite possibly the absolute worst possible way to want to speak to an authority figure. Idk bout u, but for me, it was the anxiety and the restlessness, I could deal with the tummy aches, the no appetite, the pukes, the sweats the shits. When anxiety peaked though and my legs started bouncing I wouldve robbed my Nanna on her bday while she was getting treatment in a hospital. Dopesick is the worst, the absolute worst
My daughter is a recovering heroin addict, and a therapist once told me that withdrawal is unbearable — like the worst influenza ever — most addicts can’t withstand it without doing a ‘medical detox.’ . . . So, go Jeff!!! 💪🏼 💪🏼
You have the right to remain silent means you don't have to talk about the charges filed against you, so you don't incriminate yourself. They need to know if you understand. If you don't, they will get someone to help you.
Just for record, you still have to mention that you are invoking your right to remain silent. *edit- he invoked it when he said " I'm not going to talk to you, I want a lawyer."
While it seems silly to keep asking a silent man if he understands his rights they are required to ensure that the suspect understands their rights before proceeding because its much more than the right to remain silent
This interrogator isn't following accepted practice. I've read in books and also see in these videos that the technique is to get in the suspect's personal space and stay there. In other videos you'll see the cop pull their chair right up to the suspect. Sometimes the cop will push their knee in between the suspects knees.
It's all psychological to keep the suspect from feeling like they have room to breathe between them and the cop and gaining the confidence to either lie or stay quiet. Getting in their space keeps them off guard and vulnerable.
So it's weird this cop keeps a table between them and gives Jeff plenty of personal space.
Jeff is a prime example of knowing to never talk to the cops. Even if you truly are innocent, they can still use your words to paint a narrative THEY want, and the system will back them instead of you.
@Tigris RGN That's unnecessarily cynical; it's not for personal gains, it's just that giving your account immediately sets them off trying to disprove your word instead of looking for actual evidence. There's a difference between framing someone and unfairly tunnel-visioning your investigation. As OP said, it's their narrative.
@Tahtahme's Diary Do you know how bad detectives look when it comes out they imprisoned a man on superficial evidence? I suggest you look at JCS' Guilty Until Proven Innocent in which the lead detective and three investigators were demoted and suspended without pay for holding an innocent guy in jail for three days. It's not quite as simple as just 'ascending the ranks,' there are literal courts which argue the validity and reasonability of your evidence.
Anyway that's besides the point. A cop doesn't need your word to frame you, in fact not talking lets them get creative. My point is that the detective doesn't even need to be dirty for your testimony to backfire on you, not that there are no such things as dirty cops.
The real dirty cops are the ones on the street that don't need a judge and jury to support their charges/behaviour
He’s asked for a lawyer multiple times, any judge worth their salt would throw any questioning away regardless. Good for this guy. At least he knows his rights unlike some people.
so he asked for a loiyuuh and no magic genie got one there immediately aaaaaand was miranda'd/read the warning and so fkkin WHAT IF HE yaps on to questions. so what JUDGE worth this alleged SALT can toss anything STATED ? LOL
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William Farraher2022-05-21 14:19:34 (edited 2022-05-21 14:20:09 )
So WhAm, BaM, ThAnK YoU FoR ThE CoKe, TaKe Me BaCk To My CeLL!
More people should treat detectives like Jeff. Be they in the right or the wrong. You aren't there to help make their jobs easier, you are there to fight for your own innocence.
@Alex Das Liebe I am well aware that being completely silent after requesting a lawyer is the best strategy however I can't fault people for responding when the police force and detectives are trained to ask questions to piss you off and get that immediate emotional response. Also entertaining their opening questions could get them to treat you ever so slightly better, like getting concessions, before you use your 5th amendment right to tell them you won't being saying anymore until your lawyer is present. The SERE survival tactics used in the military kinda apply here. Survive: don't do anything that will make them kill you or in this case imprison you. Evasion: You can respond to questions all you want if you are evading giving any details that could make your situation worse. Resistance: this would be the part where you just stop talking, ideally if in an interrogation room you would do this first. Escape: It isn't really feasible for a citizen to try to mount an escape from police custody but in this case I feel it would apply to doing everything in your power to legally get out of custody.
I don't think using drugs should put you in prison, I think we need another institution that is dedicated to helping convicted drug abusers and not profiting off of them.
Because I actually activated or furthered the conversation in order to get a coke in one and a coke and a butterfinger for the last attempt….I just wanted some caffeinated carbonated drinks and a butterfinger for obvious reasons which I never got….. at the end of the whole thing I was hitting the button telling them I was ready to talk and the detectives would say,” oh yeah and let me guess you want a soda first right.” And I’d just laugh…
@Rob Smissen idk if that's a real account, cause the man in this video has a youtube channel called "The Legend of Jeff". Who knows though it's not impossible to have 2 youtube channels
A lot of times these detectives don’t care & they are ready to just convince you they have something. You’ll say anything under stress. I hope Jeff found freedom
Everything you said about Jeff is completely true! The very first thought I had before you said antihero was "I like this guy". lol. and the Bad Santa analogy - AWESOME!!!!!
I once had "a talk" with my 2 managers so I said "This is like good cop, bad cop". My nice manager asked if he was the good or bad one, so I said "You're the nice one and we already know he is a difficult one" Hahaha After 30 mins talk I told them I still had work to do so they got a bit pissed I wanted to finish "the talk". So then I switched to trying to extend the talk so I could go home immediately after "the talk". I started conversation about all kinds of stuff and we talked for another 45 mins. My "bad cop" manager was so impressed he thought we were buddies again but at the end I confirmed I still didn't like his ways hahaha. And then I went home. Good times!
That Addiction he's got gets stronger every year he's on it! He's got a long battle ahead of him physically and mentally but I hope he comes out on top!
What I learned from Jeff, 'If they said they have evidence, they don't. And if they told you to tell them something, that something is probably for them to use to their advantage'.
Am I wrong that once someone says “I want a lawyer, I’m not saying anything”, the questioning would be stopped until the lawyer appears at that point? Why did they keep pushing him like that?
Surely its illegal to interrogate someone either 'under the influence' or 'in withdrawal'...you arent in your right mind... I think its disgusting the way hes put through that torture.....he handled it very well. Hes also lucky he was mainly using Heroin rather tham Methadone as Methadone is much harder to kick, and has terrible withdrawal...well done Big P'Harma...
I've repeatedly heard that methadone is even harder to kick than heroin, but never really looked into it. I wonder how come, I always assumed drugs with longer half lives tend to be less addictive, but maybe I was wrong.
these guys didn't have any evidence and weren't interested in helping the victims of the robbery - they just wanted to further their careers by getting an easy conviction without doing any legwork or real investigation. It should be a crime to be this lazy and disinterested in actual justice
This video has been censored and I don’t appreciate it: I feel obligated to paraphrase what I recall of the part which was cut, Coming directly after the “long time buddy” response @
“While many of us cannot relate to the debilitating effect of heroin addiction and withdrawal, The resignation and regret in his voice is something many of us can relate to.”
It’s really a shame this was cut. I mean... ...robber or not, it’s not like this glorified or condoned drug use or anything - So why cut it then? Hmm?
God forbid we should have sympathy for homeless people afflicted with incredibly demanding and genuinely serious medical conditions or anything.
.. I love how the narrator dictates to us what Jeff knows. And I'm supposed to just believe whatever the narrator says? No, that would be stupid. If you're going to narrate, stick to facts, don't just add random details we have no proof of.
Dude is a legend, Cop: Help me out Jeff: Fuck off and get me a coke Cop: Okay That is how you do that folks. Talking to cops is never a good idea cause like any job sometime they are lazy and just wanna pin it on someone who is a easy target.
I know that the whole point of this video is to showcase a cult figure in the world of criminology but I just can't with this guy , he's just funny in his dealings because he's being himself .
I think the glimer of humanity was already there before he thanked the coke. We can feel the fear and frustration on his voice when he talks about he's previous experience with police
Dont they have to read you your rights when they arrest you? As in while they're handcuffing you/putting you into the back of their car? And not later when you're already detained at the police station?
12:50 Wait are you telling me you couldn't Google search to see if he ended up in Georgia state prison? I'm pretty sure that kind of stuff is public record? No?
I was in an interview sort of like this when I was a kid. Our middle school sports coach had been arrested for child molestation and they were bringing kids in to interview And i reacted the exact same way when they say they have evidence that links you in.
Guys, I want to ask something. I had noticed there are parts of this video missing from last time I watched it and checked at least one other video to make sure I am not tripping. At this point I am 100% sure that there are at least three parts of this video that are missing. Does anyone know why that is or if I can find the original somewhere?
@Nathan The one I was looking for when opening the video was right after Jeff said "Long time, buddy", the narrator made a comment on how the acceptance and sorrow in his voice conrributed to him as a antihero to sympathyze to. Additionally, there was a part where the narrator was analyzing his body language while lying vs while telling the truth and how when the talking about "the gun that he was sitting on", he puffed up and made strong eye contact indicating he geniunely didn't know what they were talking about. There were also I think some prolonged moments regarding some sweet snack that he was eating or that he wanted, beyond the coke.
I wonder if a lawyer could argue that absolute silence indicates an understanding of the rights he's been read because one of them is the right to silence and not incriminate yourself.
Frank Tower2021-12-04 19:25:48 (edited 2021-12-04 19:29:00 )
He might be a junkie but he's not stupid. He adheres to rule #1 when dealing with cops perfectly - don't answer any questions. You don't need to prove your innocence, THEY need to prove that your're guilty!
How many times does he have to ask for a lawyer? Oh that’s right, he just said I need a lawyer. He needed to have asked “can I please talk to a lawyer?”
I’ve never tried heroin, but I took opiates for a short time for pain relief after a medical procedure. I have never felt so content in my entire life.
My next surgery, I decided to take a lesser medication and deal with the pain because I know that I don’t have the will power to resist that feeling.
I will never try heroin once because I’m afraid of how much I would like it. I’ve tried MDMA, and I felt a similar feeling. A feeling that “if I could feel like this every day, I would achieve all of my goals, I would be happy, I would improve the lives of others around me” etc.
But I know that the positives of drugs are temporary. I know how dangerous it is to feel that good.
Maybe when I’m 80, on my death bed, I’ll take all the coke, ecstasy and heroin that I want. For now, I’ll smoke my weed after work and have a few drinks on the weekends.
The 1st time Jeff said take me to my cell, there's a 2 1/2 hr edit then 5 hrs. They don't have any evidence. That's why they desperately keep talkn to him. If they had hard evidence, they would've put Jeff in his cell the 1st time...
It's always stupid to say anything to the police during an interrogation especially without your lawyer present. Whether they have a bunch of evidence or not confessing won't get you off easier like they try to make you think. In most cases they don't want to go to trial and you lose all leverage for a plea bargain if you give them a confession. Why do they need to offer you a plea down and give you a lesser sentence if you have zero leverage because you already confessed. Imo confessing will always get you more time not less. Always remain silent!
At and before 7:30 you really do feel for the guy. The cops not his friend and he's entirely right, they wouldn't be sitting here if the cops had everything they needed and he can't do anything but hurt himself. It's their job to find out what happened, it's his job to ensure he keeps his mouth shut and let the professionals (his lawyer) tell him what information the cops really need from specifically him because he is not beholden to this investigation if he is innocent. Obviously it's a matter of opinion on whether you believe he's innocent or not but until there is physical evidence not based in any sort of opinion that we should be on his side.
Everyone has a level of evidence they'll take though. If you know someone really well, like your husband of 15 years or something, you might just be able to look into their eyes and ask "did you do it" and know, to yourself, whether or not he's telling the truth with as much certainty as fact as far as you're concerned. On the other end, we see drug addict and just say 'yeah he probably did do that thing I mean it's less bad than heroin and he does that after all.'
It's sad the legal system can devolve into such petty trifles when all we truly want- and it's purpose in the first place- is for the guilty proven guilty. Then you'd hope for the innocent to be free of their worries as expediently as possible, with as close to 0% innocent conviction rate as possible. That is, if not just 0%.
I'm having trouble believing this Video...here at ...13:20.... it's showing a guy trying to break open a safe...using an arc welder....that can't be real, where would he get the power to run the welder?....and he's not wearing eye protection.... What a Freakin' Jeff...!
Jeff my boy , you wanted a coke so bad you was like , bro u ain't got no cokes up in here, hears police outside I'ma go see if theses police got one, steps outside (office ) - Freeze sir, what are you doing , Jeff just sitting at my buddy's place heard y'all outside came to see if you perhaps had a coke, Officer- you're coming with us we asking an officer for coke u must been at a bad point to commit robbery then ask for coke, . Jeff I ain't do no robbery and yes I came here with y'all because I was told their would be some coke , or is that just a fairy tale gets his coke a cola 🥤 ahhh" fk the defective B's I don't talk take me back to my cell, comes back 5 hrs later I was told there would be more coke 😂 officer yes now you going to tell me something, reads mara da rights, understand Jeff no yes, Im not going to talk only came for the coke 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤪 Jeff you're a legend, 0fficer-
folks murder their spouse, children, and eight other people that were in the way justice: that’s gonna be 15 years with possibility of parole after 7 or release for good behaviour after 5 months dude does armed robbery justice: oh wow oh sweet lord beegeezus that’s gonna be life for you!
Thats where they get you, they don't have to stop the interrogation whenever you ask for a lawyer, its up to you to stop talking until your lawyer gets there.
It's a tactic interrogators use, they try to get you to open up and say something dumb before your lawyer gets there and tells you to clam ip
@Kyle Garris Not true, they are suppose to stop asking you questions after you demand for a lawyer to be present. That is why they kept reading his Miranda rights over and over, because even though he asked for a lawyer legally if they read his rights again and they get him to agree to talk after that to them than it is legal. He never once agreed to though he just continued to say no and ask for a lawyer. If he had slipped up and for example answered the question about when he got to Aron's house and that was used to get a convection on him he could have it thrown out for being a violation of his Miranda rights. Clearly this guy was fucking with them to just get a coke and a butterfinger and never intended to answer any questions and that is why they had to release him.
Sally that gurl__Julia common misconception. They don’t have to stop questioning you while they wait for counsel to arrive, that’s something they do on television and I’m not sure why.
@Sally that gurl__Julia Absolutely true, they definitely don't have to refrain from interrogating you whilst waiting for counsel to arrive. To claim otherwise is an absolute fallacy. I'd suggest watching a little less Law and Order, because what you're claiming only occurs in television and movies.
Kyle Garris I know. I for one have never been comfortable with that tactic. Especially since even though he never (that we see) verbally states that he understands his rights and makes it clear that he is requesting counsel the police interrogators never give him a chance to actually get a lawyer and continue questioning him. It’s a legal grey area that I don’t trust.
They did. Cop tried to keep him talking but then acknowledged "you've handcuffed me by saying that." Then they dissappear for two hours. Presumably Jeff talked to a lawyer and later came back to score another coke.
@Sally that gurl__Julia thats NOT true lol, they DONT have to stop questioning u for SHIT, anybody can ask you anything whenever. But YOU have the RIGHT to stay quiet and stop talking. Thats how it works.
@Sally that gurl__Julia You can't really tell what happened. Once you ask for a lawyer, questioning must stop. But if Jeff starts talking again (not in response to question but intitiates it), they can mirandize him again and start again. It doesn't look like they ever read him his rights----this is a murky situation, where there'd be a suppression hearing and a judge would make the call. I would rather be the defense lawyer than the ADA in that case.
@The Gent If you are being question about crime "A" and request to speak to an attorney, they must stop asking questions until you speak to an attorney. But while you are waiting, you initiate the conversation, they can read you your rights again, and your testimony may be admissible. If you make it clear, "I want an attorney and I don't want to talk until I get one" sure they can ask you questions---and then there is a hearing and the judge will make the call. If you say, "I think I should see an attorney" you haven't invoked your right. Cases are never straight forward---like the guy will say, "Fuck off I ain't saying shit"---lawyers will argue wither side
@RPD thats not tru bruh, thats how it works in TV shows but in real life theyll keep preasuring you the way they did with jeff, and thats not illegal. U have the right to remain silent. They have the right to investigate, fish, and question until u slip up. THE GENERAL RULE IS "YOU HAVE THE 'RIGHT' TO 'REMAIN' SILENT" its pretty much self explanatory. Anybodys whos been in the system (was in it 10 years) knows this.
two 9s I don’t care how many years you were in the system, you have no clue. You are saying that you can invoke your right to an attorney and they can still question you and it’s not illegal. Yes, that’s true. It’s not a crime to continue questioning you. But it’s not admissible. Jeff would go to his PD who would notice a hearing, show the video to the judge, the cops would testify, and the judge would make the call. They don’t show this on tv because it’s too boring, but that’s how it’s done bruh.
@Kiran "good guy" being a descriptor, not an opinion. I don't know if he's a morally good person or not but in the eyes of the law he's a "criminal" or in my own personal slang "bad guy". I didn't use that term specifically cause I knew that would sound vitriolic when I'm not meaning it to be so I lightened it a bit by saying he wasn't a "good guy" or someone that abides by the law.
I would have loved to have seen his face with that comeback. The cop thought he was being clever and Jeff just slammed that ball back in his court without even trying.
@Rachel Roberts I work with them? And I grew up around a lot of addicts and study addiciton as part of my course it is much more complicated than you think and is much more a result of corruption and capitalism than it is the individual.
@Rachel Roberts Your comment doesn't even make sense is your argument that all addicts are just immoral or something? If that's the case and you only want to blame the individual and not psychosocial factors then you should also condemn anybody who smokes, has a sugar addiction or drinks a cup of coffee everyday to function as well. The "real world" as you call it is not having the moral standards of a 5 year old who sees everything in black and white and actually taking the time to understand that there's more going on and every issues has numerous factors which influence it.
@Rachel Roberts "many addicts manipulate idiots like u" "unless u live near them, have to deal with them everyday" "ask why they are their, to get money drugs and see who has the drink."
You're implying addicts are immoral I'm not putting words into your mouth these are your own words. Don't use strawman arguments if you're just going to backtrack on what you said.
@Sebastian Morris Thanks I just get fired up with all the misconceptions surrounding substance abuse, no need to thank me though it's my job and I love it.
@Abi Lea Im legit curious, not trying to be a smart ass or anything but how would you say capitalism contributes to drug adiction?
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Billy Elden Ring2021-02-21 12:29:05 (edited 2021-02-21 12:31:38 )
@Abi Lea also Im a little on the fence on putting the emphasis on the social factors. Because on one hand you are absolutely right poverty, crime, disfunctional families they all fester adiction. There are psychosocial facrors that are like a breeding groumd for substance abuse. But on the other hand, at the therapeutic level the individual is all there is. It wasnt society or my family or my upbringing that made abuse drugs and alcohol, Im the one who chose that. And I couldnt do a single thing about society, my upringing or my family. If thats the root of my adiction then I guess Im all out of luck because I have absolutely no agency over those things. But I do have agency over one thing and one thing only: my choices. And it was finding that agency that I began my journey to recovery. Realizing that Im in control, that is my choicea that got me there and only my choices that will get me out. help and support will make wonders but at the end of the day if an addict doesnt wanna quit, they wont.
@Billy Elden Ring The pharma industry (particularly in the US) is responsible for over prescribing opiods which people get addicted to then when their prescription runs out they need street drugs. Also capitalism is the reason why there is a moral bias when it comes to drug addiction;being addicted to caffiene, alcohol, sugar and nicotine is fine but THC, meth, heroin etc. are not. The only reason alcohol and nicotine are legal whilst LSD and THC isn't is because governments make a profit from alcohol and nicotine and used propaganda to paint drugs like THC are drugs that minorities did.
@Billy Elden Ring My point is not everybody is given those choices, the vast majority of the people I work with had no choice and were introduced to drugs as children. When it comes to therapy and helping an individual recover, acknowleging the problem and wanting to change is the only thing we can hope for. You can't change the past but you can change the future, it's important to not try to think that addicts aren't able to change even if they grew up in poverty etc. Because a lot of the time they can but unfortunately it comes later in life when they are much more stable and self sufficient to leave those environments, however at the same the the physical addcition is normally much more severe by that time.
@Abi Lea okay then I totally see where you are coming from and I agree big pharma is defenetly responsible for a good chunk of adiction, not only with opiods but anxeity medication too, benzos can be just as bad or worse than hardcore drugs. Im not sure if the bais in favor of nicotine and caffeine is entirely capitalist, since they allow you to function just as good or even better than you normally would but we cant deny theres a huge profit there. Thanks for the explanation, it does make a lot of sense.
@Billy Elden Ring Totally agree, however nicotine and caffiene doesn't make you function better it's objectively deteriorating to your health and affects your ability to function without that stimulus, meth and cocaine do essentially the same things which is why they are called 'study drugs' they help you focus, that's what I mean by bias.
Who says he's a bad guy? Law breaker and criminal are legal assessments, not necessarily moral ones. He's accused of armed theft remember, not murder or rape.
Hi, I used to use IV heroin, never screwed anyone over but got screwed over myself plenty. I got better myself. First try, zero relapses. Also don't drink or even smoke anymore.
You're right that most people don't do good things when faced with danger. They look out for number one.
But not all people are like that. I wasn't, even at my most destructive, and I'm proud of that.
The way people like you look down on addicts automatically is bad, for the same reasons as things like racism or religious extremism... us vs them.
People are individuals. Treat them as such, rather than a monolith.
You can be smart while not villifying others. I've been screwed over by other addicts and dealers constantly, was robbed at gunpoint when I lived in Olympia, and so on. I never. Hurt. Anybody. & here someone is, trying to show compassion for people with mental illness, and you belittle them due to your own resentment.
This person is trying to remedy the situation (& I myself am proof of the strength of these people's conviction). What are you doing, exactly?
Thank goodness for the people you mock so carelessly.
@jht3fougifh dude. Dude....read the rest of the conversation before you write me a novella of useless information. I've stated it multiple times that it is not in the context of moral standing, just standing with the law. You must be one of those people who love hearing themselves talk.
@Abi Lea i mean you are still somewhat of a bad person for the crimes you comitted but it's true that instead of going to prison he needs rehabilitation
@Platonic Riot Crimes are not the same as morals, commiting a crime makes you a criminal but it does not inherently make you a bad person. Heroin addiction is not morally worse than a caffeine addiction, it's perspective and prejudice.
The reason everyone loves him is A) He's funny B) The junkie is smarter than pretty much everyone else we see on these things. Wasn't the cop pushing him kind of illegal since he'd already said "I'm not talking to you. I need a lawyer"?
@Dave The Brahman I addressed this in another comment in this thread
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Abi Lea2021-03-10 09:53:38 (edited 2021-03-10 09:53:50 )
@Dave The Brahman That's objectively false, healthcare isn't unique to capitalism only privatised healthcare is which is responsible for turning away people in need like Jeff who can't afford it.
@Dave The Brahman Capitalism is also the reason pharma companies knowingly pushed opioid prescriptions to people who didn't need them and upped the oxycontin content in american brands, for profit.
@Dave The Brahman Except public healthcare is a socialist policy which those countries have adopted and the treatment quality does not differ as much as you think in poorer countries. Also the countries you listed are not great examples as they have the same system the wealthy countries you mentioned have.
@Dave The Brahman Do you wanna name some ACTUAL socialist countries? Last time I checked China and Russia are capitalist and so are most of the militaristic African countries where children are soldiers. You should learn more about healthcare before you speak on it because you sound very ignorant. I work in the healthcare system and know many people from many countries and the only one that stands out is the USA where doctors get bribed with dinners and gifts by medicine companies to promote pills to patients and charge obscene hospital bills over things which are free in other countries. Socialism and capitalism are not perfect but it's clear you don't understand the concept of socialism or socialist policies enough to form a coherent argument since you named good examples which were socialist policies, nice try though.
@Dave The Brahman You're conflating the definition of socialism with the USSR, there's a reason people say it wasn't real communism or socialism. Public healthcare is a socialist policy. And you'll find that successful and fair healthcare is delivered under those socialist policies unlike privatised healthcare which is capitalist. Even then, many of these systems are impacted heavily by funding which isn't a capitalist or socialist problem but a leadership one. And again I can guarentee you that most of the countries you think are socialist are not once you learn the definition of socialism. Also you'll find a correlation between failed "socialist" countries and countries which the USA has heavily interfered with by installing dictators....what a coincidence.
@Abi Lea thank you so much. Your comments allow me to not blow up on these people. Really frustrating that it's 2021 and we are still explaining to people that addicts aren't created in a vacuum of evil or something 😕
@Dave The Brahman bro just use the internet. Look it up. Please. It's not even complicated. We have a for-profit Healthcare system that incentivizes extremely addictive prescription drugs. Don't be dense. Capitalism isn't just the cherrypicked good things that you like rallying behind
@Dave The Brahman Yes but you're understanding and generalising of what socialism and communism is, seems to be from red scare USSR propaganda rather than the actual definition.
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Abi Lea2021-03-12 06:19:23 (edited 2021-03-12 06:19:58 )
@Dave The Brahman Evidence? For what? What I said was not disputable it's just the facts of how the US healthcare system works yet you seem to be in denial of that. And by "Australian style" you mean socialist healthcare policy. And that has everything to do with capitalist vs socialist healthcare systems since privatisation is the basis of much of the USA specific healthcare issues such as big pharma.
"to think that any public good payed for by taxation is socialist, while capitalism is about greed."
Fam I'm begging you to just use google for ten minutes because you're so close yet so far. Public systems like public transport, education and healthcare are socialist policies, this means taxes pay for them and they are services which the government provides to the public. Socialist policies are inherent to socialism but can occur outside of socialism in capitalist countries such as Australia, Canada, NZ etc. Privatised systems like USA prisons, USA healthcare etc. are inherent to capitalism and can only take place in capitalist countries.
"Even a cursory reading of history would quickly cure this nonsense."
You seem to be under the impression that knowing some basic history somehow equates to economic and healthcare policies which is where I think you've been mislead by red scare. Instead, reading some capitalist and socialist theory would help you understand definitions of what these words mean since you seem to be guessing.
Either way, I hope you can go research and comment again with some more insight or just let this back and forth die since I really dislike having to constantly reiterate the same point over and over because the other person is misinformed. I hope I'm not coming off as condescending (but I probably am it's hard to type in a non passive aggressive way).
@Dave The Brahman "Of course Russia and China are capitalist, but they also have exremely corrupt political systems that distort the market. " I don't get what point you're trying to make, my point is that corruption exists in the USA healthcare industry idk why you're bringing up Russia and China I purposely didn't use them as examples of good healthcare because I know they're corrupt? "If things are so wonderful in the ‘other countries’, why do people come from all over the world to be treated in the US, in Canada, in Australia, eventhe leaders of those regimes?" Who tf goes the US to be treated? Nobody, unless they need a specific procedure done which their own country may not have professionals which specialise and they usually leave in debt which they can never pay off. Rather people go to Australia, Canada etc But idk why you're mentioning this since my point is Australia etc. do NOT have the same system as the USA and are not comparable as such. " If you think doctors are bribed in the US, you should talk to people from India or Africa, or even Russia. " Yeah I agree it's terrible? Again bringing up other countries (Africa is vague btw since that's an entire continent not a country but whatever I'll let it slide cause I know what you mean) that also are corrupt doesn't get rid of the fact that the USA is corrupt? "It is always a shame when unreflective people like you think they are knowledgeable on politics and economics because they can parrot opinions from the Left media." Do you wanna elaborate on unreflective because that's a pretty baseless acusation. Also "left media" is a big red flag I kind of assumed you probably watched a bunch of conservative propaganda like Joe Rogan or Fox but this adds to my theory. Truth is I don't watch the news from any regular source, I read medical journals when I study healthcare which you'll see from some of the links I sent you. I used to be conservative and fell for all that shit from shapiro and Crowder until I realised they never backed up anything and when I read into their sources they were wrong. Especially Crowder his agenda for bashing Canadian healthcare whilst complaining the USA is ranked so low globally is pretty funny. I'm not trying to give you a "leftie" opinion, I originally commented about big pharma which isn't a left wing conspiracy is\t's the truth and I know many right wingers who agree it's an issue, you were the one who wanted to argue and change the definition of socialism so I had to keep correcting you but I'm not trying to convert you to being a socialist or anything, I'm just trying to maybe let you see that the US healthcare system is objectively not working and is responsible for hurting people like Jeff.
@Dave The Brahman You just generalised again, marxism is a specific form of socialism so why would marxism have anything to do with the definition of socialism? "Soviet attempts to subvert the countries of the West" Ah yes because the west are holier than thou and didn't do anything wrong. Not like the CIA have meddled heavily in the Americas to prevent socialism which is going against democracy not to mention even meddling in our own elections in the 70s when the CIA and British Royals staged a coup in Australia because for once our Prime Minister didn't want to suck up to the UK and USA. "was immensely understated by people like Senator McCarthy" You better start talking about healthcare again because this comment is so ridiculous and I'm not going to argue with somebody who respects someone like McCarthy who is responsible for mainstream red scare. Red scare is the actual term btw I didn't make it up, america doesn't hide this form of propaganda and you're very naive if you think we don't all have propaganda in every country, even australia has tons of propaganda it's just the west is more subtle. Which is arguably worst because at least in Russia and China, citizens avoid the media or take it with a grain of salt because they know its propaganda whereas in the west people somehow believe their country never has an agenda.
@Dave The Brahman "The definition I am using of socialism is the standard definition, and the way the term has always been used, " No it's not, you keep going back and forth between public vs private healthcare as if it's not the difference between socialist and capitalist healthcare. "It is capitalism that has pulled much of the world out of poverty," This is your issue, did you see me once type that socialism has greatly improved the world or it's objectively better (other than healthcare)? No because that's a subjective opinion. However your statement can also be rebuttled with how much poverty has capitlism placed countries in? Wanna talk about Chile? Saudi Arabia? Egypt? MOST poverty stricken countries are extremely capitalist. "China under socialism to now, or Venezuela under capitalism compared to now." Maoism is very debated amongst leftists you get some crazies who loved Mao and believe China was better, I think both Chinas sucked for different reasons so I'm not gonna really answer that one, China and Russia have pretty much always had issues. Russia under the USSR was better than the Royals but IMO and most socialist opinions, neither the USSR (except under Lenin) nor Mao's CCP were truly socialist. Also Venezuela isn't considered socialist by any socialist I know and you'll find much of their crisis is thanks to the USA yet again. https://time.com/5512005/venezuela-us-intervention-history-latin-america/ Maybe if Latin America had actual democracy instead of the USA meddling in everyone's affairs constantly we'd be able to fairly compare them. A better comparison might be Chile, USA installed Pinochet who murdered thousands including those who just disagreed with him politically would you say this capitlism saved thousands too? "All the modern social reforms in the West are the product of extreme abundance, as may easily be shown." This is baseless, have any sources? "Joe Rogan of all people is conservative " Aha, I knew you'd point that out, he's libertarian which is right wing aka "conservative" as Americans like to call it. He admits that himself. A left wing libertarian is an anarchist, which Joe Rogan very clearly isn't. Also Rogan beds himself with known white supremacists and has them on his show yet you never see him platform socialists or leftists which is because he only wants opinions he agrees with to be presented to his audience and to also cement the idea that these pundents are comparible to the scientists which he puts on the same platform. This vid is great and is what pulled me out of all that non sense before I got in too deep, idc if it changes your mind but it can at least help you not fall for the crazy conservatives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g&t=1882s&ab_channel=InnuendoStudios "the product of modern privilege which is itself the product of capitalism’s success" By privilege you mean education?? I never understood why conservatives think it's a burn when they point out that majority of tertiary educated people are left leaning. Also my education was government subsidised in a public university aka a socialist policy which allowed me to stay out of debt.
@Dave The Brahman Yeah that's how every system works? In australia if the healthcare system fucks up you can get a coroner's report and get money to make up for it, that's not unique to the US. And the opiod epidemic's major damage is post 90s so guess that system sucks huh? Seems like nothing has changed at all so idk why you brought that up. Again, what's your agenda? You claimed at first to agree with me on everything except my complaint of capitalism being the cause and now you're defending the system you critiqued which I can only assume is because you don't like my political leanings and so you're automatically taking the opposing side? "Perhaps you can tell me which system you believe to remove human greed and self-interest from human affairs?" The "Universal Healthcare" systems aka socialist healthcares like Australias, Canada, NZ etc. Duh, I've said this form the beginning.
@Dave The Brahman I think I begin to understand you a little. You are not an evil person, and probably in your 40s at least. You see inequities and failings in the system of your country, reported by the media, and think that it is a function of prosperity and privilege that we can even report on the injustice in the first place. It's just American Exceptionalism which has clearly fogged your perspective and now you're just way way too close to this whole thing. You field critiques of American capitalism as if it is a direct shot at you as an American/individual. You're just lost in the weeds on this one but unfortunately I imagine most people your age are in the same boat
@Dave The Brahman "Acting in it's own interest" You mean forcing a leader and ideology that the people didn't want and rigging everyone's elections? That seems fair to you? The land of "freedom" taking away people's rights and installing murderous dictators because they were paranoid about the USSR? Who gives a shit if other countries turned socialist, you make i tout to be a threat, if capitalism was so great there should be no threat since Americans wont change their system anytime soon. You're beyond ignorant and this is the last comment I'm responding to that isn't healthcare related because I'm not going to be able to have a reasonable discussion with somebody who genuinely believes their country is flawless and justified.
@Dave The Brahman " I can make nothing of your first paragraph, other than your continued insistence upon your idiosyncratic usage of words."
You can make nothing of my words? Because they're idiosyncratic? My paragraph was written simply and your use of idiosyncratic is ironically more idiosyncratic than any of my word choices, truth is you have no argument so you've switched topic and pin pointed your argument onto subjective political opinions instead of healthcare because you realised you were wrong.
@The Pirate Nation Honestly, the whole "good guy, bad guy" is a little too black-and-white for me.
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Ty Taylor2021-03-14 07:18:35 (edited 2021-03-14 07:20:30 )
@The Pirate Nation Just so you know, you got at least one who understands the context of which you were speaking in intent. Same thing happens to me at times. People get locked into their perception of what you meant.
As I once read and say to people- "Words don't mean; PEOPLE mean." So to say, words are only a conduit in communication to have a sense of what a person is likely to mean. But it's still subject to possible clarification by the encoder.
Often enough, the decoder,'s ego don't allow them to accept that maybe they misunderstood. That or either they simply don't have the capacity to even understand that the possibility exist. #Peace
Amazing to think Jeff is somewhere out in the Ether oblivious to the fact that millions are watching his actions and being entertained by his antics. I really hope he’s living a life which is his definition of happiness. Thanks Jeff.
Thats a dumb statement, no offence. I WAS a junkie also and Jesus pulled me out of that life. Jeffs happiness today could be doing more heroin and i wouldnt wish that on anyone. I hope and pray he is clean and sober living his life for the one and true living GOD! Grace be with you and peace from GOD the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ!
A comedian named Tom Segura talks about how every episode of ‘The First 48’ which involves a suspect asking for a lawyer ends with the charges being dropped...
And the biggest reason why is because police have used the ‘we’ll get you out of here quick after we clear this up’ to perfection... So, word of advice, if you are ever for ANY reason arrested/detained for questioning at the station, just assume you’re staying the night at least once.
Better than any other tool they have, they use the “Do you want to go home right now?” method against people who are fooled into thinking that their options are to choose between going home and doing a month when in reality, the choice is usually something like stay for a day or stay for a decade.
@Derp Y-Derp It's honestly kind of disgusting how many tactics they use while NOT getting them a lawyer too. Jeff asked a few times and they just keep sending in a new cop with a new tactic. They give up after a full day when most would have broke just at the promise of getting to go home and sleep.
@MRI The funniest thing about snitching is that while I'm sure that John Angel guy is just being a clown for the sake of being funny, it's not even like snitching gets you out of ALL trouble unless it's done right.
You 'give them something' and don't have a lawyer around to secure a plea deal, there are probably even odds that you're also giving them yourself too. But that's really what those people have coming to them.
I hope he gets over his addiction, clearly his battle in life. Whatever he did, he is very decent. This glimmer of humanity is also shown in admitting of being addicted. His anger is not personally directed, still he is frustrated not only by the system but also by his own low self esteem. The phrase: I am a f*cking junkie... clearly shows he does not want to be addicted and blames himself for this weakness. Whatever he had tried to quit himself or that it ran out one day, he clearly knows his own body limits. But yeah 14 years is a long time. The refusal of methadon clearly states he been on the road of quitting before. Although this system is(and has to be regulated) it is not how an addictive mind works. I truly hope for his recovery, rinsed of this opiate, he can be much more, then how he feels on this vid.
"Thanks for the Coke." was everything for me. Like JCS said, he had nothing to gain from it. He felt gratitude and wanted to express it. I hope Jeff gets the help he needs, too.
Anyone would admit to being addicted when they have no possibility of getting a fix any time soon. Anyone who knows what withdrawal is like lives in permanent fear of it.
I was addicted to heroin/opioids for about 7 years. Of course you wouldn’t just go around telling people about it but once that withdrawal starts to set in, you start feeling an unbelievable sense of discomfort and dread coming over you, you’d be surprised how quickly anyone would admit to all kinds of things if it meant that they might have some chance to get some relief.
When I finally decided to get clean, I learned for the first time just how bad withdrawal was. It was a true eye opener. I had never gone more than a few hours without a fix before that. It got so bad that sleep was impossible. I had horribly restless legs which compelled me to go walk around my neighborhood for hours at a time just to try to tire myself out so that I could sleep through it but it never worked. Muscles cramping and aching all over my body, pounding headaches, cold sweats, etc. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
Since this guy has been an addict for 14 years and has resorted to committing armed robberies in order to fund his drug addiction, I think he knows exactly what to expect from withdrawal and it’s scaring the shit out of him. The overwhelming sense of doom and dread that comes before and during withdrawal is hard to describe.
"whatever he did, he is decent" "Glimmer of humanity" Did y'all not watch the damn video? He's convicted of armed robbery, jfc. He might be a wolf in sheep's clothing in this moment - laying low and being polite since he knows he has no power here. We don't know what he's like when he's in his element, thus him commiting armed robbery
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Victoria Edwards2021-05-30 11:59:13 (edited 2021-05-30 11:59:58 )
@Rick Mcdonald Do a little research to see what medical marijuana does for people with Parkinson’s Disease. Educate yourself about the benefits of marijuana in terms of medical ailments.
While it’s not for everyone, it has been a life changer for a lot of people. Your negativity holds no value.
@Rick Mcdonald There are so many holes in the position you took I won't even waste my time. You must be incredibly ignorant to several things including economics with a statement like that...
@Rick Mcdonald addiction is a disease. Yes people have control over the first few times but at some point it gets to where you can’t function without it. Dealers, yes, deserve a hefty prison sentence, but users should not receive life. I believe they shouldn’t go to jail at all. They should go to REHAB in order to get clean and change their life around. Drugs are still present in jails and will just cause the addiction to get worse or change to other drugs. Honestly what the hell.
@Rick Mcdonald I beg to differ, yes we need to treat them, if that needs incarceration, then so shall it be. Bringing dealers to the chair is not solving a damned thing. The biggest bosses still produce their poison and the dealers that are on the streets are low in rank and probably addicted too, to keep them at their place. Yes, but so morphine and codeine and coffee, yes even chocolade. The first two are opiates and should be illegal too? What about alcohol? No my dear sir, there is a list of drugs that are illegal and that are not. It might differ from country to country. But as you might see in the US 1920/30, by making something illegal you create a (black) market.
@TQM I did watched the video, did you? Cause the narrator clearly states he was released after 12 hours. Yes I said decent, cause I have seen more people in this case that behave not that decent if they feel this way. No, that cola would not be thanked for but thrown at you. This addiction is terrible not only does it wreck your mind with hunger, it is also physical addicted. Yes they are wolves in sheep cloths, this is what he going through for 14 years, he knows he is powerless but he still remains, as best described: decent. I'll ask you one thing, do not eat for 5 days, (it's okay you can without food for 3 weeks) Your mind will be fixed on food on the sixth, this somewhat similar to his state. Talk to me again if you still can be a decent guy, cause most can't. It changes us to be wolves.
@Kyle Stewart I never been addicted myself but seen many patients that act way more aggressive then this guy. You fought a great battle within yourself and admire you for that. I truly hope you are doing alright now :)
@craig barreres Yes they do and know why? This is a market, prices go sky high, once a stash is caught or a dealer arrested. This can be solved as did in my country and it costs millions if not billions. Registrate the users, give them their fix, let them talk to psychologists, let them fight to get clean(trust me, this is a horrible process) Most of them will get clean, robberies will go down and dealers cannot compete with free fixes. They do not have to cheat, lie or steal for their fix.
@Rick Mcdonald I actually agree that anyone who commits an armed robbery, regardless of the reason, should be permanently removed from society. Even at the absolute worst point in my addiction, robbing someone at gunpoint was never even close to an option in my mind. I never robbed anyone or stole anything to fund my habit.
Drug abuse is a scourge on society and it was 100% my fault that I started using drugs. However, if I had been caught possessing drugs and sent to prison, I have no idea what may have happened to me.
I’m 5 years clean now, I got married in January and we’re trying to start a family. I made the idiotic choice to start doing drugs but I eventually made the decision to create a better life for myself and I didn’t threaten or harm anyone at any point.
@Kyle Stewart I’m going on a whim here, but I don’t think your situation was even remotely comparable to even an average person suffering from substance use disorder. Your opinions would differ greatly if you understood what it can be. I’m not trying to offend, but your comments say a lot and can influence those who have no clue like your buddy Rick
@Rick Mcdonald The only problem with drugs is that they are illegal. They used to be sold in their pure form in pharmacies and nobody had any problem except for the joke of a president of the “free world”, who started the war on drugs. ✌️
@Rick Mcdonald people make mistakes. Its called being human. You don't know what he's been through. He might have done drugs to forget about certain shit in his life. Like alcohol. Or he might have simply made a mistake.
@Rick Mcdonald if I am wrong, then you never learned what you should have. I wish you well in the future and I truly hope you never understand why what you say is so wrong. If you do understand, it means you’ve been affected more personally and I hope that doesn’t happen to anyone.
@TQM Suspected of armed robbery, if he did then it was most likely to feed his addiction, did he harm anyone while robbing? No, Would he have killed anyone with the weapon? Most likely not. Considering he shows gratitude and has common sense, with help to overcome his addiction he could be cleaned up and become a normal functioning member of society
Same I was strung out for years and the sickness is something that tears you from within but this guy is a real one and I hope he gets clean FOR GOOD. Getting clean is half the battle, not relapsing is the other I've been clean now for almost 3 years and it's a battle especially that 1st year.
@Rick Mcdonald right and all I see is a bunch of Pitty comments for some reason I believe it wouldn't apply for everyone else. If you do the crime you do the time he should of known what drugs will do to you.
@Insert Username Everyone has a story, many don't choose drugs or alcohol to forget. Many don't perpetuate abuse and hurt others in society. People who choose to abuse drugs and alcohol and commit crimes as a result are weak, horrible creatures and don't deserve any forgiveness! Remember, they have victims! Most are narcissistic sociopaths!
@Rick Mcdonald I can't believe you're comparing the effects of drugs like Cocaine and Heroin to Marijuana. Yes I agree that Marijuana is a drug, but it's a drug that has medically saved lives before. That's like saying people who were cured by Marijuana deserved to be in life for Prison for using🤦♂️ You need to realize how stupid you're sounding. You can't even overdose on Marijuana, unlike drugs like Heroin, coke and meth. Even Cigarettes have been proven to be worse on the human body than Marijuana is, and those are legal everywhere. But I didn't hear you say anything about those 🤔 Please don't try and compare Marijuana to some of these other drugs, and I've only smoked it about 3 times a couple years ago. But let's be realistic here, almost everybody uses Marijuana and when have you ever heard of it taking someones life? Just think about that...
@Brandon LM01 how was my situation so different from the average addict? You suggest that I have no idea what addiction is like, despite the fact that I was completely dependent on heroin from age 19 until I was 26.
@Kiekko 67 nobody had drug problems before drugs were made illegal? Are you sure about that? People had horrible issues with drugs for as long as humanity has existed. Alcohol and milk of the poppy were destroying lives long before the rise of the Roman Empire. You have a very rosy picture of the past if you think that drug addiction only became a problem after the 18th or 19th century.
@Jacob K. so committing armed robbery is okay if no one gets hurt and the suspect was only doing it to buy drugs? I truly hope no one ever robs you at gun point but if it ever does happen, I have a feeling your opinion on this will change.
@Rick Mcdonald That’s because drugs cost a fortune and are full of impurities. You do realize that these problems wouldn’t exist, if drugs were legal don’t you? ✌️
@Shadowbonbon 3 why don't they help themselves? I don't get any help and I appreciate it, be ur own fcking man, don't rely on anybody, and if u fcked up, u fcked up, it's that easy
@Insert Username Do you have any empathy and understanding for their victims? He made stupid choices and now he is paying the price! This isn't a disease, it is a character flaw!
The ''You are not my friend'' and ''The only reason why I came here is to get a fuckin coke, now get me back in a cell'' where the single best tools to put himself out of the range of being dominated and tricked. He just instantly understands that these guys have to work within rules and simply placed himself above them. You damn right i'm rooting for this guy.
It helps them deal with people, that are more (I guess) emotional. As a rational person , you would be glad that they use this but as you have shown , you probably sympathize with our antihero Jeff
It also shows the antihero “Jeff” was released because he didn’t incriminate himself. Roberto and “Jeff” are correct, they are not your friend. In saying that we do need police though!
Yeah, but I have watched a lot of these cases and it's really the only way to break down a killer or liar. Unfortunately, people have to be pressured into taking the truth. It's a lose lose but necessary procedure because truth serum doesn't exist.
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Jonas Strzyz2020-08-10 13:31:26 (edited 2020-08-10 23:33:59 )
@Rick the Swift Probably because the American sense of justice is about preventing more crimes from occurring by getting a conviction followed by a lengthy prison sentence with little to no thought for a concept known as rehabilitation. Also, because while an officer may say that their job is to find out the truth, trusting them to be honest and virtues while your freedom is on the line is ill advised.
@Rick the Swift Because the merit of our legal system is that it's supposed to be independent of what some police officer or someone like you views as "a danger to society." We require evidence for a reason. Yours is the same argument used for centuries to justify atrocities. You are apparently the one who cannot understand the REASON we have something called a burden of proof.
It is also wrong to say that because he did something else illegal, for which he has already paid his penalty, it is okay if he is put in prison for something else which he did not do. Part of the problem with our legal system, and there are many, stem from this type of mindset. They will use crimes committed decades prior, even crimes completely unrelated, for which that person has already paid their debt to society, as leverage to get longer sentences. It is ridiculous, as people are being sentenced twice for a single crime. And these so-called three strike laws and whatnot are just ridiculous. Perhaps I could understand if someone commits an armed robbery, and within a couple of years does the same thing, but what ends up happening is that people are being arrested again for meaningless non-violent offenses, and this is used to justify lengthy prison sentences. They are, as I said, paying for a single crime twice.
Then there is the fact that putting people in prison for a crime they didn't commit and were possibly tricked or manipulated into a false confession is something that is so foreign to most people that they do not understand it could happen to them too. You think that you could explain your innocence and everything will be alright? The truth is that all it takes is being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and it is a fact that numerous people have been exonerated after serving lengthy prison sentences for something they didn't do. It could happen to anyone under the right circumstances, and it happens way more than many people think.
I don't think it's unreasonable to assume the interrogating officer truly believes he is providing help, all he has to do is tell himself that by putting him in prison he is mitigating the risk that Jeff will at some point overdose, get murdered or have to live with himself after being responsible for the death of another person.
Why am I not getting any of these jokes? When did Jeff say that? At which point was there even a female in the video asking him questions?? Have I stumbled upon some weird "Legend of Jeff" cult or something???😳
"Jeff- “I’m 6’5, have multiple felonies, homeless, no job and am a heroin addict” Her- “Did you say.... 6’5”???"
@Rick the Swift females dont care about character. The taller the man, the better his odds are at getting between her legs. The tall man does not need to say a word. He is in.
Rick the Swift.... female.... hmmm... it’s a joke about the information card that says he’s tall. It’s a joke that a tall guy can get attention despite anything else. It’s a tik tok format as well. Like— Hannibal Lecrer: killer, cannibal, 6’3, eats the rude Will Graham: 6’3?? 🥰🥰🥰
Rick the Swift2020-08-10 03:11:13 (edited 2020-08-10 03:30:10 )
@Genesis V I appreciate your attempt to explain your cult's sense of humor, but I must ask, What exactly are you referring to when you say "the information card that says he's tall"? I didn't see any height info in the video or its description. If you are referring to your own perceptions, then please let me share mine- In the video I see a very scrawny, feeble and little person- possibly even less than 5 feet in height, and in no way weighing more than 95 lbs.
I'm curious as to how your cult obtains it's "information cards" though, so sincerely hope you might continue to help an uneducated brother understand what it takes to acquire such insight 🥰
I was a heroin addict for a decade also. (Clean now for 3 years) & there’s no way I could’ve kept it together as well as Jeff dopesick especially. Jeff 2020! Wonder how Jeff’s doin now..
Yo my old high school friend who became a banker had his fiance chest on him with a 6'3" convict, he left her, but why the fuck would she do that?!?!?!
@Bloodshot Red my boyfriend is 5'3 and has had plenty of chicks flocking. He's fine AF. Shit I was the one who propositioned him 4 years ago. Now we have 2 little babies and I couldn't be happier.
Or, this is Jeff reaching out to you. He is sharing his story by selling cola. Go now! And buy Coka Cola and NEW Coca Cola Twist LMT. For that REAL American fresh!
He's not saying it as a quick witted comeback. He is aware that extensive periods of time in police custody entitles you to see a doctor who can make your stay more comfortable by prescribing Opioids for heroin addicts. Same as any other prescriptions you are currently prescribed. (these are UK rules I'm going by, but I'm assuming human rights are still available in America)
@Jaina Mormont Do you just go on every comment typing the same thing? Everyone is aware it got said in the video. We're just going over the things that were said. Thanks for the unoriginal comment.
Legend has it Jeff is still out there, passing out on friends couches. Scheming up new ways to get some frosty coke's and maybe... just maybe... a sweet crunchy butterfinger..
DrGamer covid is relevant to anything. It’s changed lives forever. I agree ^. It’s funny that mao closed all opium dens and most of our opioids come from China. China knew the negative effect it had on their population and yet now it’s happening in America.
@Angelina Ramponi Dying from overdose,not heroin.During prohibition every fricking alcohol user broke the law every time they used it,they needed help,they got it,a sensible change to the laws.(from some points of view,others still ban it as the toxic poisin it is)
Note, if you ever get interrogated the right to remain silent is your greatest friend.
As Rodrick Heffley once said: "No matter what they ask you. No matter how hard they push. Deny, deny, deny...Never admit to anything, deny, deny, deny."
you do know they will an can hold you until you make a statement right ?... i use to say no comment to alot it an they kept me held for two days until i admitted to something i didnt do. silence isnt the best option legit
@Romee Matehe they can't hold you forever. They kept him 12 hrs. This is exactly how cops get their convictions. Don't wanna be held for 72 hours but you're good with 15-20 years! Lol
You have the right to remain silent..... ... Do you understand your rights? ....…..............................….. ................Jeff Do you understand your rights?
@Smileyrie James He's an addict. Not a murderer. He needs help getting the illness of addiction out of his brain to make sure he never commits anything in the name of heroin again.
@TimBREAKRADIO yes exactly if he goes to prison for years he will be wasting tax payers money and he will end up in some prison gang probably trafficking drugs. This guy should get court mandated rehab and probation. It really helps.
@jamie jamieson If drugs caused Jeff to do something like rob a store, then maybe if you eliminate the original reason for aggression and desperation, and it wouldn't have happened in the first place, or atleast be prevented from happening again. Prison will only make matters worse. I'm not saying that he should be let off the hook for LITERAL armed robbery, yet I doubt dehumanizing him in the prison system will solve the issue we're addressing here.
@TimBREAKRADIO your points are invalid...the crime has been committed so its prison unfortunately.
I worked for a drug and alcohol rehabilitation centre...I know all about prevention and also causation...but once a serious crime has been committed it has to be dealt with properly. Dont act too clever mate you may find people have the same depth of knowledge on the subject...possibly even more
@jamie jamieson My point is that while yes, a serious crime was indeed committed and something has to be done about that, I'm not AT ALL saying he is off the hook, as you jumped to me saying "We no longer punish armed robbers," which is not AT ALL what I'm saying. Sending him to prison will only make matters worse. Sure, he'll "do his time," but the initial causation for his crime may still be unsolved. Drugs are available in prison. Who's to say he won't keep doing heroin while inside? Prison doesn't rehabilitate people, it institutionalizes them and makes them less of a human. My issues is that of the prison system and the options for addicts who make mistakes. Harmful mistakes? Maybe. But mistakes nonetheless.
@TimBREAKRADIO my point is...prison is a serious deterrent most ex prisoners will agree. But let's not argue..let's agree on some common ground, prisoners are still humans and should be treated as such, conditions inside are disgusting and unacceptable, rehabilitation is underfunded and under utilised. I'm sure we are more similar in opinion than how this conversation first started. Apologies for the way i began the process of debate...typing in an empty room can make me come across more cold hearted when in fact I am the other way inclined
@TimBREAKRADIO I commented on something else but it was on a different thread. My view as an ex heroin addict is accountability. I understand heroin and I've lost over 10 friends to heroin and I actually had to be resuscitated myself. I have always had a unique perspective on addiction and getting clean and I stirred up a lot of shit in rehab. I hate the AA/NA model of being "powerless" over an addiction and I think treating it like it's a sickness is detrimental. I've seen too many people use that as an excuse when they relapse and dont assume full responsibility and I've seen that mindset kill some of my friends. I worked my ass off and payed for my addiction for 7 years without breaking the law once other than the drugs of course. Nobody including my wife had a clue I was on drugs and I was never caught or forced to get clean I just decided on my own ot was time to get clean. I called all of my friends and family individually and told them everything! I still relapsed and died at one point so it wasnt perfect but I'm 5 years clean now and will never touch it again.
You should totttttalllllyyyy do one where we see an interrogation of a person that ends up being innocent or wrongly convicted! That way we can see the psychology of the other side.
I use to work for a police department, when a police officer needs to talk to you, it means they don't have enough evidence and trying to get more evidence from you.
Not true at all. They have nothing to lose by talking to you. Look at the Stephanie Lazarus case. They already had her on DNA evidence but wanted to interview her anyway to record her lying in order to strengthen the case even further.
@Ryan Bee yeah imagine cops only getting one piece of evidence and then giving up when the judge rules that piece out. "That wasn't it this time, your free to go until next time, Chad"
I can’t help but love Jeff. He reminds me of my brother who is definitely a lot like him in the addiction aspect yet anyone who meets him will say he’s the nicest person they’ve ever met. He’s kind, selfless, and funny. He struggles everyday to find himself. I truly hope both Jeff and my brother find salvation not destruction.
@Mayra your truly welcome.I know we enjoy the high too much sometimes but we need to escape it before its really too late.Tell him to keep his head up always,life is beautiful its our situation we stick ourselves into that wont let us let go.
@Eli The1 Yes absolutely. I always tell him to keep fighting to never give up. He’s the only one who can truly decide to make a change and when he is ready we will be here to help him through it. I have faith that his day will come and that he will be able to live a happier healthier life.
@Mayra being close to him and believing can be as hard as hell. But, believe me, that's so important, it's massive. My cousin was in troubles too. He only had my mum and grandmother to believe in him. He knew he wasn't alone and was still treasured. He cleaned himself. And I hope also your brother will clean himself. Then you'll be there to hug him 💖
Have you seen Jeff's youtube channel? He's fine as I can tell. I'm also heroin addict so I know what are you talking about, currently on methadone and getting my life straight. ps Jeff's yt is "The Legend of Jeff" he uploaded over 100 videos.
Imagine if Jeff never started using heroine, the guy had been addicted for over 10 years and hung out with the wrong people, and still he can manage to stand his own in an interrogation. That would have been a pretty smart guy I'd say.
Heroin addiction does not reduce owns creativity or intelligence. Quite the opposite actually (through my exposure to such addicts). Many have soared creatively while addicted and lost it once clean. Not condoning addiction or heroin at all. Just my experience with them.
You mean clever, not smart. These interrogations are poorly executed and conducted by your average joes with poor training. But in the case of an intelligent criminal needing interrogation, they have a special unit for this which is normally handed off to the F.B.I. If you are being interrogated by moronic officers then you're not very bright, to begin with.
I know this because I studied the interrogation performed by these special units and the difference is astronomical. The environment, the ambiance, the way they spoke, the way they articulated their questions everything about their interrogations were set up to defeat a madman. For madness is intelligence, but to control madness at a hyper-intelligent level would be pure insanity. When Oppenheimer was interrogated by the security union taskforce - F.B.I / C.I.A / H.L.S they were overwhelmed and then another taskforce was created until they had to close the whole investigation altogether. Oppenheimer manifested his insanity and fear into others to the point where all his psychiatrists and psychologists dropped his case after the first session with him. The destroyer of worlds had a mind that even a god would fear because of how insane his thought process was, and after they dropped little boy and fat man he was never the same, and the help he would seek would not come because of how all these specialists and experts would disintegrate before his very words.
at one point i started to calculate how much id spent on drugs over a 20 year period while working as a "functioning" addict... its fucking depressing to see you have wasted close to a million on drugs
@nakula kaufman worked full time spent 60% of my income on drugs, also had a huge inheritance which i wasted, that was $300k over 5 years, it all adds up, should have made better life choices, but thats life we make mistakes and its what we learn from them that matters and that its never to late to turn your life around. took me 7+ years to get fully clean of all hard drugs, i still occasionally smoke a joint at a party, but i dont drink nor do heavy drugs at all
Austin Blackburn yes your absolutely correct as shown in many studies (Psychiatria Danubina, 2011; Vol. 23, No. 1, pp 53-59). However it also seems to further creativity in some select individuals. Perhaps those that were already highly creative (see Steve Earl interview for example where he discusses his addiction).
Redux yes in my limited experience is seems to have not only terrible costs to a person but also some hidden value creatively. Although it certainly is terrible like any drug addiction.
If yall think Coke hired Jeff to work on their corporate marketing team then yall are a bunch of fools. What is Jeffs last name? What state/city is this is? Seems like if he is back in the system he would be able to be found pretty easy.
Thats why he knew he had this in the bag. If the cops have solid evidence they'll give you a lawyer no time flat. But if their trying to play you this is what they do. Its sad 1 he's being detained their giving him snacks and sodas to get you to relax and after hours of this most people give in and relax and start talking. Which almost always ends up fucking them over.
Exactly!! This video shows all the ways cops will try to get you to speak, all the lies they’ll throw at you. Jeff shut down every single one. He would be a dream client for a defense attorney honestly lol
most cops are trying to get you to confess to robbing a bank, so you don’t need to employ any of these tactics usually. if you get pulled over and refuse to speak to the cop things are gonna go a lot worse for you than if you had spoken to them
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun They deny him a lawyer for hours after he repeatedly pleads for them - that is the biggest possible violation of this procedure that can be done.
@Martin Svoboda Hours? He asked for a lawyer in one session and it was terminated right after he asked for a lawyer as it should. Then he changed his mind, got a deal with cops and went into another interview. There are zero violations on this case. If there were JCS would’ve mention it.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Egg and Chicken. They refused to stop talking to him and getting him lawyer, so he at least got Coke from it. And I literally care 0 % if what they do is legal. It is obvious what it is morally and that they deny him what he has right for and manipulate him to "oficially" be in right to do so.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun This is absurd. His agency was at the level of a guy you smash with his own hand and scream "why are you hitting yourself" at him. You can say that he expressed his will freely as much as you want to, it doesn't make it so.
@Martin Svoboda Well, actually no. He asked for a lawyer with his free will, and then changed his mind with his free will. Which is completely in his rights.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun The choice was between talking against his best interest and will, or suffering more through withdrawal, assuming he wanted the sugar to deal with the withdrawal. That isn't a free choice man.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun All because all interviews go like this doesn’t mean they’re ethical. They use the REID technique which if you take one criminology class it’s one of the most unethical and most called out interviewing styles. So I get you’re a boot licker, but maybe look into this more before commenting on multiple comments defending this terrible process.
@Samantha : Samantha I am a law major. I work with this every. single. day. Reid is only used when the ineterrogator is 100% sure that the subject is guilty. If there is an OUNCE of uncertainity şt won’t be used because it may very well produce false confessions and we often object to that. Is it completely ethical? Of course not but in reality most things aren’t anyway.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun https://www.cga.ct. gov/2014. /rpt/2014-R-0071.htm speaks about how widely used it is. Also mentions it’s critiques (while of course stating some of its “advantages” but that’s not comparing it to other successful interview styles). It’s also important to note that those advocating for the REID techniques are police forces and other entities that actively use this. For instance, the people arguing against those that called out this technique for false confessions are literally the people who created the REID technique. Thus, it’s obvious to state that the less bias and actually research Critisms are more accurate in this instance. Therefore, their biases heavily influence how they will react to this technique.
I also have a very hard time to believe you’re a law student when in another comment you mention that “false confessions don’t happen” which all you need to take is one law class to know that this is false, and that people like Jeff (experiencing a withdrawal) are more likely to falsely confess. A study by Kassin and peers literally explain how the REID technique can lead to false accusations, meaning that no they do not only use this technique when they are “100% sure the suspect is guilty” so I have no clue where you got that statistic from. One quote even states that “in the United States, false confessions were a contributing factor in more than 20% of these cases”. As I stated above the US is know to either use the entire REID process or apply many of the steps to their interrogations. To the point that the tactic used in THIS video in which the police stated that they have evidence has literally been proven to heighten the chance of false allegations “Over the years, basic psychology research has shown that misinformation, as presented through confederates, witnesses, counterfeit test results, bogus norms, or false physiological feedback, can substantially alter people's visual perceptions, beliefs, memories for experienced and observed events, and behaviours.”. The article by Kassin et al is called: Interviewing suspects: Practice, science, and future directions. If you want to look into it. So before you want to comment support for the tactics used under multiple comments maybe make sure to research the many criticisms of these types of interrogations.
@Só Léo Criminal law and other laws are different. It will never be legal to murder someone without a reason because it is a violation of basic human rights. Also, facts do like to change. It’s science.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun It will likely never be legal, but the definition and degrees of murder are based on what we consider moral or not.
I like that you picked the easiest possible example. How about when the law changed to make slavery a crime? Or what crimes warrant the death penalty, if any, or if weed is legal or not, totally not subjective, yeah?
Facts don't change, science changes because we discover other facts.
@Só Léo Let’s see, we all agree on basic human rights. Right? We decided on them based on what will harm people. And that is a fact rather than something subjective. Slavery has negative impact on humans and therefore against human rights and illegal. Weed has zero to minimal health risks on people, no one died overdosing from weed and therefore should be legal everywhere.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Idk what you're smoking but weed can have serious impact on health. Literally ask anyone who smokes a lot and often for years and years. There have been cases of death even and it's known fact that it can cause heart arrhythmias and sudden cardiac arrest. Only reason ppl say you can't overdose on it is bc it isn't clear how much is too much and bc when it comes to heart issues it's hard to prove that there couldn't have been other factors causing it than weed. Yes it's safer than most drugs and alcohol etc but you shouldn't spread bs abt it only to push your personal agenda.
@Once Twice Smoke inhilation can have some impact on health but that’s it. There is absolutely zero reason why weed would cause arrythmia or cardiac arrest and you literally cannot overdose on weed. You’re the one who’s spreading BS to push personal agendas.
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Só Léo2021-05-28 13:46:50 (edited 2021-05-28 13:53:26 )
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Right, but weed isn't legal everywhere. And it's not like the places where it is illegal don't have access to the information that it's isn't dangerous. The reason it's banned is because of people having a subjective repulsion to the drug and/or the people that use it. Ergo law isn't just objective.
Same with slavery, do you really think everyone thought slaves literally weren't human back when it was legal? Ofc they did. But they let it be legal because it was great for economic reasons. And their subjective opinion was that it was worth the violation of human rights.
By your logic slavery is harmless right up to the point that it becomes illegal. Because if it's not against the law, and the law is objective, then it's fine. And if it's against the law, and the law is objective, it's not moral.
That's not how laws work, we decide what should be a law or not by having an ethical discussion, at least that's how it's supposed to be. And as you said, ethics are subjective. Therefore laws are also subjective.
@Once Twice There is literally no one who has died from weed besides 1 kid who was allergic and ate a shit ton of brownies made with thc concentrates, who didn't know ahead of time that he was. He died from his allergies though, still sad. There's a reason you didn't give any examples of people dying from weed. It doesn't happen.
@IV X No, the real problem is that if they railroad this guy then the actual people that committed the crime are still at large, and will never be investigated for this again. For everyone innocent that is lead to a false confession you have a criminal (or group) that just got away with it and are now possibly even more emboldened.
A crime happened, assuaging the victim's feelings of insecurity (which you can do by finding some random guy and hanging him in the town square) is not the point of the police force.
We don't tolerate police, their tactics, and brutality (they are brutal towards those they suspect are criminals, which is required) just to make people feel better. We tolerate all of that because they get it right a lot of the time. The rules of evidence and rights of the accused are very important tools to help keep policing more toward getting that right and less toward giving everyone a false sense of security through the periodic sacrifice of innocents.
@Martin Svoboda I agree, first off this isn't a human interaction, the police and the suspect are not on anything remotely close to equal footing. The police have an incredible power advantage in literally every real way. The only power that a suspect has (in the us at least) is remaining silent. The police have a multitude of levers they can use against him, and they're well versed in all of them.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Come on man, they may be following procedure and it may be legal, but claiming that they're not benefitting from his withdrawals or that they aren't aware of how that can be used against the guy is an insult to the intelligence of everyone involved.
@eternal rain "France, published this year in the Journal of the American Heart AssociationTrusted Source, researchers identified 35 cases of cardiovascular complications, amounting to 1.8 percent of all serious side effects from cannabis use reported to a government database. Nine of the patients died." Let me know how being wrong feels.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Are you, yourself a cop who has done things they shouldn't have? Because any reasonable person would understand the difference between a person making a choice of their own free will, versus making a choice under extreme duress. There's a LEGAL precedent for that - if you bully someone into giving you sex, by asking over and over until you get a yes, that is legally considered rape. It is well-documented that consent given under duress is not consent.
This is EXACTLY what the cops did in this situation. They bullied him into giving up his rights. They denied him a lawyer over and over for hours, and continuously tried to interrogate him without one (which by the way is against the law; legally, once you say "I want a lawyer", they are supposed to stop talking to you until the lawyer shows up), until he gave up because he realised he wasn't going to get a lawyer no matter what. In ANY other situation, this would be considered "duress". In a sexual situation, it would be a crime. There is NO justification for it. You're just outing yourself as a psychopath who feels no empathy for others, really.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun No... Basic human rights are actually completely subjective, and vary wildly from place to place and from time to time. For example - the US has freedom of speech. My country does not. You have no right to freedom of speech where I live. Some countries have NO basic human rights at all.
I don't think you even know what a fact IS, buddy. A "fact" is something like "The Earth is a planet". An opinion is "I think this is morally wrong/I think this has a negative impact on humans". To use YOUR example, I'm pretty sure the slave owners would strongly disagree with your idea that slavery had a negative impact.
@LordofFullmetal Nope. I am a criminal law lawyer. From the tape we don’t know if they DENIED him a lawyer, all we know is after he asked for a lawyer he was taken to his cell and five hours later he was back talking to cops which is legal because in the tape it is clear that there has been a deal between Jeff and the cops. Clearly he changed his mind and made a deal. It can take way longer than five hours to get a lawyer especially if it is being provided by the government. Cops have no say in this.
@LordofFullmetal Human Rights are decided by the United Nations and are universal. A country not following those rights doesn’t mean it is not a human right.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun wait so I’m just trying to keep up... you said you’re a law major, but now you’re saying you’re a criminal law lawyer. So are you a student or a practising lawyer?
@Once Twice smoke. inhalation. doesnt mention whether they also smoked cigarettes, doesnt mention how they died, just that they did use cannabis, and happened to die. yea bud,everyone dies.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Both our legal and criminal justice system is a mess and most of the world laughs at us so any legality you pull out of your ass as an excuse is just that... an excuse. As a lawyer you should probably know all of this but clearly you lack the humanity to see this situation from any other perspective but your own and are just as much a part of the problem. Congratulations!
@Peter B Yes YOUR criminal justice system is a mess and yes WE laugh at you. I am not a part of YOUR problem, I'm just pointing out the facts and laws.
@Once Twice Okay, so quote the actual study. How do they know its from smoking weed and not just a coincidence with those low numbers. What are the control numbers, how long were they studied for? How does it feel to be tricked into thinking weed might kill you if you're not allergic,
@Buggle Magnum I don't care if you don't think it's real. You can look it up. No I'm not in school anymore either. It is rare but you can be allergic to weed.
@Gutzz Gutzz yeah the way he kept rubbing his feet n shit too, been there smh. Proud of him for milking them for cokes while going thru that, that couldn’t been easy
@Fun gun benzo w/d can be more dangerous, but heroin w/d is honestly something I wouldn't even wish on my worst enemy.
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Luke Ellis2020-10-24 04:03:17 (edited 2020-10-24 04:09:17 )
Must of sucked I was put in isolation by a cop for three days while I withdrawed from the opiates I was on from a major surgery. The only evidence they had is that I rode past the crime scene a day after it was committed on my dirt bike. It was a remote area and the camera was setup to catch people dumping. I just recently had a large metal bar placed underneath my rib cage to push my ribs and sternum outwards. Imagine the pain of braces but its in your chest and slowly cracking your ribs. Plus when coming off the opiates the pain gets way worse you cant lay down and put pressure on it, So i stood the whole time and they wouldn't turn the lights off or give me reading material. I was an 18 year old kid and when the same cop came to take me out three days later he said he did it because I disrespected him. And that he had no intention of actually further pursuing charges. So I spent three days in isolation with a loon who kept flooding his toilet and throwing his shit and screaming. And they wouldn't let me sleep or read or give me anything to sit on not even a gym mat. All because I was disrespectful to a certain police officer and all I did was refuse to speak to him. when he kept pushing me and started yelling at me he grabbed my bottle of gatorade he let me bring in and threw it at the wall behind my head and told me I was going to jail.
@Nate Yes, everyone should feel sorry for addicts because they're in a cycle of hell caused by mental illness. Hope for yourself that nothing bad ever happens in your life that gets you caught into addiction.
@Nate let me explain how drugs work. People take them as an escape, NOT an exuse. If you have a terrible life, (let's say your mother just died for example). And a drug that allows you to have happiness or just forget your pain people will take it. Even something as simple as a pharmacy disputed pain killer can give an escape to many life problems. no junkie says "I take drugs for fun." That's no junkie, that's a fucking idiot. A good quote is "drugs are a junkies food, try living without food for even a day. Food isn't a want, it's a need. Just like how drugs are a need for a junkie."
So before you say these people with a addiction are wrong for even having having an addiction.
I get it, these people aren't perfect. But neither are you.
@Fun gun I hear people say benzodiazepines are awful to withdraw from and I have done it no problem numerous times maybe cuz I took so many opiates along with it but I didn’t have any withdraws from that either so idk 🤷♀️
Addiction to drugs can happen to anyone. Whether it starts from a prescription, surgery table, trying out something new, or even at a party. How do you think people get addicted to alcohol? Most of the celebrations involve alcohol, isn't that having fun? My first time trying alcohol was at a Thanksgiving dinner, and boy did I like it... My friends love smoking marijuana, but that shit makes me sick. I guess not everything is for everyone, it depends on the environment and the people you grow up with. Honestly you just have to be smart. You can go to a party and do drugs once in a while, but it's up to you to keep doing it or not.
@Jess Hazen Benzos are rly bad to come off heavy addiction but after 2 months you dont give a shit about them anymore...opiates always haunt you..always want that high
@Nate There's a lot of kinds of addictions. Beginning with you addicted to raise your voice in topics you don't understand (and not even trying to understand).
Is it legal after someone asks for a lawyer, to just go on and on with questioning? Wondering how many times they have to ask, or demand a lawyer, and how many just give up
@Viktor Birkeland yeah, anything intoxicating is addictive. the clean & sober people chain smoking & chugging coffee like water. Everyone's got at least one thing that intoxicated them
@Luke Ellis Yours is a lesson many have learned first hand, and if not first hand then from a friend or family member. The reason people have been burning down police stations is because a critical threshold has been reached, enough people have had enough. I think many more need to burn, and defunding. I read cops are quitting in record numbers, and that made me so happy. Law enforcement is a tainted profession, a totally corrupt culture and with it combined with so many Americans' hero worship, and with the fact we've hired waaaaay too many cops, that's where we are. With the exception of large metropolitan areas easily 3/4 of all cops could be let go and crime stats wouldn't change, and might even go down, seeing as how much crime cops are committing.
@Bacon Cheeseberg you missed the point completely there, buddy. i guess you've never been in such situation before. they take the most arbitrary stuff and turn it into an accusation of disrespect. For me, it was a small nervous laugh i let out because i had been confused and scared to have been detained. That was enough for a bored officer on a power trip to capitalize on. My veteran friend later told me that these army rejects had been acting like this since school. The best you can do is to stay quiet and not give them anything in these situations. But that;s something you can't know without experience.
@Gutzz Gutzz the worst is when it’s not a physical addiction problem but a behavioral problem. The second I stopped having access to alcohol, I started binge eating. When I didn’t have access to food, I spent hours on my phone. No matter how many times I remove the addictive trigger, I find another. Which shows I’m the problem.
@JDC sugar is also addictive and cause a lot of health problems such as diabetes (the silent killer). Anything and everything should be done moderately or else even the harmless substances can become extremely harmful.
@Sophia Troanska I know your not directing this question at me but I’ve been clean for almost 4 years now and I’ve had the occasional dream and “triggers” I guess you would call them but all in all it give a me anxiety to think of my life before. My heart drops and it gets hard to breathe. It’s like I’m completely disgusted at the thought of going back to something I fought arm and limb to get out of
@Velma Ali It isn’t fair to compare sugar ‘addiction’ to that of drugs.
Look. Similar to oxygen and water you could say sugar (glucose) is physically addictive in the sense that if you tried to stop using it, your body would undergo biologic changes that would drive you to start "using" again. But this is more because you would die, than for any other reason.
In fact many addictive drugs take advantage of the biochemistry that is built around informing you of when you eat something tasty.
Your body/brain senses the levels of glucose in your blood/cells and can trigger your cravings accordingly. Glucose can trigger biochemical changes, and stimulate hormone and neurotransmitter release.
If you are saying excessive amounts of glucose can stimulate the same addictive cravings as other drugs, then yes. Glucose is tightly linked with craving and emitional ballance.
However if you are saying the molecule of glucose itself physically acts as a ligand co-opting the normal signaling pathways the way addictive drugs do, then you’d be wrong.
@JDC I did not say sugar and drugs are the same did I??? Please correct me if I did... I believe I said, sugar is also addictive and can cause harm to the body. That's all.
@Cashel hey buddy! Don’t let my case worry you too much! According to my surgeon, what happened to me was the only time he’d ever seen it. He has preformed the Nuss Procedure hundreds of times over the years and had never had a bad outcome up until me. He referred to me as his “Glitch” lol. May I ask, why is it you want the surgery? Is it purely for cosmetic reasons? In my case i HAD to get it done as it was quite serious and causing me lots of pain and restricting my breathing. If I never got it, it could have possibly been life threatening as I grew older.
@Cashel to answer your other question I’ll just tl:dr it.
The aftermath was extreme chronic pain. It left me with serious nerve and muscle damage which means i will have to take meds for the rest of my life. It also turned me into a serious opiate addict, which to this day I still am.
Nobody decides 'I'm gonna do heroin' casually. You have to be hurting so much that you'd rather be dead anyway. At that point you give up on reality, and you just spend the rest of it fading away until you're gone.
@Torey Jones lots of people do heroine casually, actually. I've known a lot. Some devolved into addiction and some never did. Some stopped using casually and some still do every once in a while 20 years later.
@Jacob Ball And I thought the strict laws came from pharmaceutical companies shoveling opioids left and right to people who didn't need them saying that they aren't really addictive if you've got a prescription and the situation got so out of control, it was impossible any more to keep feeding people the story of businessmen who care for their well-being. I mean, obviously they took it to the other extreme.
Methadone clinics you can get those for free and if you take a benzo shortly after it’s as high as you can get and you’re in the faded stage for hours.
@Randy Butterson Thats not necessarily true. Many times using for so many years just desensitizes you to things. If you drive a car every day, you're not going to think too much about how you turn the key to turn it on. You know the risks of crashes and death, and some drive more recklessly than others, but ultimately you still drive (most people at least).
Same with addiction. Things just become the norm, and they no longer have the impact they would for others. Not really about caring about destruction or addiction, though that certainly happens, its just human nature to adapt and adjust to the environment and desensitize itself to stimuli. People who go to NA and who've been clean for years can still talk very casually about their use. Thats been my experience at least. They obviously care about what it did to their lives, but the way they see things is just different than people who haven't been addicted. When its your life everyday, its no longer something special, which is kinda the core of how addiction forms, isn't it?
@doubleffect yeah that's true.. in the 90s and early 2000s they were pushing oxycontin on people who came in for a headache. Anything , someone's finger got a paper cut , here's oxy, and pharma companies said it wasn't addictive bc it's was made from thebaine and didn't possess morphine .. they were pushing it on everyone. My dad died this way. You're absolutely right. I just forgot to mention that. Thanks for pointing that out
very obvious that they were trying to get him go to jail. He asked for a lawyer and the lawyer never arrived, what a way to violate your rights. GOOD JOB JEFF.
I think this is genius. Seems like the cops can only repeat their yes or no question before starting to grill the suspect with questions involving the incident.
@Rogue Mentality in the United States of America we have the right to remain silent, if you don't remain silent that's on you. It's not the "right to not be asked questions" They can ask you all the questions they want but we have the right to remain silent... do you understand that?
@Rogue Mentality There is a reason they need a yes or no and that is Miranda v. Arizona. They need his understanding before interrogating him. He will still be charged and possibly found guilty (held "responsible"?) regardless of his answer to this question.
@Synchro Metanom Learning about law from sovereign citizen videos on YouTube will only fill your head with junk...... Well put. Bravo. I was getting so frustrated with this thread until you spoke. Thank you for the sweet relief.
@Rogue Mentality the agreement was made way before Jeff got to this interview. You can't rage quit your individual sovereignty just because things aren't going your way and think that represents the exercise of personal power.
@jksemtex but he has just prostituted the very rights he up until this moment has taken as his due. you can't have it both ways. unless you brought a note from your mama.
@Rogue Mentality they want him to know that by talking he is giving up his right to remain silent. But really they legally have to say that and then they try to trick him into thinking he needs to talk his way out of it
Rach Bell I’m having a hard time following your logic. Comparing Jeff’s manner of conduct with that of the interviewing detective in the realm of professional integrity is an absolutely invalid and baseless argument. The reasoning for this seems so fundamentally obvious, it feels silly needing to explain. Nevertheless, consider the following; the detective’s moral and professional ethics can absolutely be argued as being either “by the book” or crooked due to the that fact interrogation of suspects is part of the job he willingly signed up to do, receives a salary for carrying out, and needed to get certified to carry out via testing his comprehension of mandatory training educating him on which tactics of interrogation he is allowed to employ in order to obtain a confession and those which are either banned within his profession or simply illegal. Jeff however, is not a professional police detainee. He has been arrested and so his willingness (or rather obvious lack thereof) to be there getting interrogated is totally irrelevant. He is not being payed for his time (again should be obvious). He has been through the system before and understands police are legally allowed to mislead him into self incrimination by lying when saying things such as, “his situation looks bleak, so he might as well talk. If he talks now, they can put in a good word with the prosecutor. They have all the evidence they need to bring charges this second, they’re only sitting speaking with him in order to allow his side of the story to be heard...). Now, hopefully by now you can understand my confusion in your comment labeling a civilian’s actions during police interrogation as crooked since he is not there by choice, nor is do the answers or way in which he responds subject to “crooked/straight” analysis as they would be if him being there was a part of his chosen career with explicit rules of conduct such as the police officers. Even if we were to judge his behavior on a scale of perceived morality more or less to be acceptable or abhorrent within the sphere of public judgement, I simply do not understand what he did that made you feel as though he crossed a line when interacting with the several detectives? Is it simply a matter of feeling bitter that someone you perceive to be a dredge on the welfare of society had the ability to understand that based on his prior convictions, the police would not be wasting their time questioning him to this extent if they truly had strong evidence as they implicitly told him time after time? That based on this understanding, he knew if they would try to hold him as long as legally (or longer) possible hoping that the withdrawal effects of his addiction would lead him to admit to anything just so he could get out of that holding cell? Or is it that in our justice system even a junkie is afforded the same rights as you, and despite the police praying upon the exploitation of his disease to pry out a confession, he was able to hold out and eventually get released with no charges pending against him? The last thing I want to know is how does any of this make him a sovereign citizen? He wasn’t some guy running up on police during a traffic stop shoving a camera in their face telling them how they are going against the constitution by doing a,b, or c...In fact he wanted as little to do with police as humanly possible. And none of the comments I’ve read on here which you felt inclined to label sov citzns seemed to be hell bent on pointing out police corruption or even abuse of power, they simply enjoyed seeing that even the most vulnerable population in our society have the power to not simply be helplessly thrown into prison without due process. Isn’t that democracy at work? Isn’t that what separates us from authoritarian governments who can imprison and kill their populations at anytime, without any reason, for any perceived offense? Seems to me that if you are upset seeing our laws played out in real time due to the less powerful ending up free, it is you who wishes to disconnect yourself from our country, declaring yourself a sovereign nation of one where it’s only your voice that counts.
@wtf is wrong with you Only up to a point though. They are not supposed to do an actual interrogation once you lawyer up, or the lawyer when s/he shows could potentially get stuff thrown out at hearing. Even the charges, depending how serious they are.
@David Parry this is a sad truth that I've suffered my own personal consequences from. Thank you for bringing awareness, @David Parry, to this lesser known group of sufferers at the police's hands. we need it especially now, when designer label victim groups are trying to claim a monopoly on the market
@Rogue Mentality He also said "comprehend" which means understand as we know it. He could have answered yes to that, but chose to exercise his right to remain silent it seems.
He could remain in jail longer if he doesnt say yes or no. They can't interrogate him and to a judge and DA, his not acknowledging the Miranda points to more guilty than innocent.
Nick H I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Germany there actually are a couple question you HAVE to answer in an interrogation. They're only about identifying you and I think about your rights, too. Maybe in the US you're required to answer the question about the Miranda rights, too.
@Rogue Mentality Exactly...its the same in courts where they ask if you understand when they slap a fine or sentence on you. Much of the time you can either remain silent or say you do not understand. IT binds them up, and is one of the only defenses people have against ths tyrannical system.
@Paul Colbourne Actually, after you request an attorney to be present, from then on your responses are no longer admissible in court and police must stop asking. (Davis vs. US, 512 U.S. 453 (1994). From the opinion: "A suspect is entitled to the assistance of counsel during custodial interrogation even though the Constitution does not provide for such assistance. Id., at 469-473. If the suspect invokes that right at any time, the police must immediately cease questioning him until an attorney is present. ")
just like jack reacher. why dont the police understand? oh. my bad. we all know how the police are. next time ask for a beer if tjey want to talk. id talk all about sports.
@wtf is wrong with you Hey dude, I'm sure you know but thought I'd point out for others. Your statement:
' in the United States of America we have the right to remain silent...'
This also applies to many other countries and actually originated in England in the late 1600's. I don't know how many countries but I know it applies to ~26 in the Commonwealth.
I have always wandered why the police have to ask 'do you understand' before continuing. I mean what is there that is so hard to understand?! But reading through some of these comments, it is clear to me that plenty of people simply DON'T understand!!!
@Rogue Mentality Are you a lawyer? What happens if someone doesn't answer they understand if they are read their Miranda Rights? Have the police, if they feel he could be reasonably sure he probably understood his rights, or that knowing that he can hear and understand English done enough? I just never thought of someone doing that! Sheltered I know
Lol he played it PERFECTLY. When they asked he said NO, and then the 2nd time said yes. Since he said yes second, it can be argued the second time he was reinforcing that he didn’t understand. Dude was on point
@EGstill85 i really appreciate your having taken your time replying with detail as you have. please accept my thank you . i really love when people are fully engaged. forgive me if that sounds patronising or off key in any way. i suspect that you and i don't disagree . i didn't express myself well and was reacting (one of my specialties). i apologise for my righteousness and fully understand that i am not Queen of the World (though god knows i should be... wish i was, and you can have a turn too). i wasn't considering the distinction you make between the professional position of one and the ... civilian ? position of the other. i do know how it is the letter of the law as i've heard say and in practice these specifics count. if i understand you properly.and i'm not sure what i think about making that distinction. because for me? two people. come together. to refuse to take part seems silly to me. the excercise of personal sovereignty does not seem to me to be manifest in any way in the guy's behaviour, in anything about staying silent or not in this context. i think it's silly to forge your sovereignty, your sense of your own value on playing games with police people. i think that is the other half of police corruption. those who want to play play. if i had to negotiate such childishness on a daily, hourly basis? i'd probably turn bad somehow and find myself trampling all over someone's sovereignty in filthy boots. are we speaking about the same thing? do i understand your point? does that opinion of mine achieve anything for me if i am in the position of having to account for myself as in this video? i wouldn't assume so. i'll be the one locked up in the basement forgotten and condemned and i'll still not know what i'm being accused of probably. we are all good enough. you and i. special to those who love us and sovereign most importantly to and in ourselves. on my day of being Queen of the World? everyone would know that so well they would speak when they are spoken to. and take part. i respect the law. but you know. people. i like people to tell me who they are. i like them to take their turn, as their due. regardless of whether their head will get chopped off. and how often is that the gauntlet anyway? how about a simple, 'yes i killed a man and buried him under the new pool' ? thats all.
due process - exclusion doesn't work in an interaction between two people. that's my line. (you must stop discrediting my intelligence at the start. i must stop getting righteous) so where do our different approaches meet i wonder.
@peteywarren0829 To "understand" someone means to give validation. To believe in a statement coming from a person? Means to accept its authority over. I say this and you do as I say, you understand? Yes. -Then do it! You hear me? Yes. -Then doit. Dynamic: follower/submissive (sub=under) vs author-rite = writter of laws, auto-self pathtake (psych=self-> path/rule/law) auto-graph -> signature -> self-consent. Auto=self (own path/his way/law) : a state of group controlled by one person (self) with absolute power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocracy ex: autonomous - having the freedom to govern itself or control its own affairs. having the freedom to act independently. (autonomou=self-control)
@EGstill85 i didn't mention him a sovereign citizen. this thread headed that way and it annoyed me. 2. what i am most interested in is what Jeff himself actually thinks and his perception of his place with regards to him knowing his own innocence or guilt. the gap between the legal process and what jeffster did or didn't do and thence how he sits with regards to his rights. rights he may not have held onto himself. it seems significant to me to be clear on everybody's level of corruption. we all being sovereign citizens. nobody even mentions that. and im astonished. irrespective of morality and all that 3. his junkieness and being vulnerable to manipulation? the policeman may not see that as inappropriate and at the end of the day he's the one we're paying and training to decide for us and jeff. and again let's not ignore how jeff too made choices long before this and surely we must have expectations of him also even if he's not on the payroll so to speak . isn't this kinda a basic part of the social contract? whether jeff would admit a gap in his behaviour and his expectations is up to him and the true silence we're all dancing around. when i'm Queen of the World i'd feel much happier listening to him mewl - if he chose to - about his junkie problems after all of this has been run through first. or has he brought a note from mama explaining why we hold the police guy to account but not jeff? then we can wheel out our compassion.
From watching so many police shows, I have seen the majority of criminals actually convict themselves when the police only have circumstantial evidence that would not hold up in court.
@Tiger I. F. R. Tiger What?? Since when Scoobie? You can literally say nothing and it would still count as a God given right. Our civil liberties are not things government allows us to have. They are a check on the government's power. What if he really didn't understand those rights? Does he give them up by remaining silent? No, of coarse not. The ONLY way he can lose those rights is if he talks. Although acknowledging his understanding of his rights he isn't giving them up in that instance either, actually remaining silent is not exactly the wrong thing to do. The fact is, he did ask for an attorney. Just because they reread him his rights everytime they came back into the room, his initial request for an attorney didn't go away just because they left the room. How many times did the detective say "why should I give you anything if you won't talk to me?" The fact is I would have said "I requested an attorney before I would speak to you. Since you have refused to provide one, why the fuck should I tell you anything simply because you felt like violating my civil rights?" The fact is, the first detective actually used the words "You have handcuffed me, I can't talk to you about it." Fucking pathetic. The fact is, he was smarter than all those cops put together. If they actually had the evidence they needed, why are they even bothering with the interrogation to begin with? Being released 12 hours later is a pretty good indication they didn't have what they needed. So, he was either being cut loose, or they were hoping he would do something stupid to get rearrested. Either way, they could have held him for 72 hours but didn't.
@Paul Colbourne No. Not even kinda sorta. He does not have to acknowledge his understanding of anything. And whether you do or not is immaterial. The fact is, the first cop stopped, but then another came in and reread him his rights and continued to ask him questions. They do not stop just because you say you aren't speaking until they get you an attorney. They didn't here and they didn't honor his request for an attorney either. It was at that time that he should have called their bluff. And that is what he did.
They do not give 2 shits about right or wrong, truth or lies or even justice. So what makes you think that they give a damn about honoring your civil rights? They don't and they didn't here either. The reason? They were trying to coerce a confession out of him because they didn't have shit on him. If they did have the evidence they needed, then they would not have put their case in jeopardy by not honoring his request for an attorney. In other words, they had no case and he knew it.
Khajiit Hadwares this is inherently false. The word “understand” means “comprehend.” I can understand loads of things without conceding authority to them.
@Rogue Mentality then that makes sense because by responding to the question he admits to agreeing to talking and he doesn't want to talk so he wont respond if it means getting a lesser sentence
@Paul Colbourne So then if they REALLY need that confession, they bring in a Public Pretender, he has you answer to some trumped up questions, they still smoke your boots in court. Unless you have money, to keep an attorney of your choosing on retainer, you ARE going to lose 99.5% of the time in one way or the other. The system is rigged.
4:25 (Key word here: I think/I believe. This is all my opinion and how I interpret the two concepts <3333) I disagree. There are hundreds of villains that people love and can relate to, even if they are supposed to be pure evil. I think the distinction comes from the characters morality and ideals, and how they behave to achieve their goals.
And antihero and villain could behave similarly, but the distinction can come form why they are behaving that way, or what they hope to achieve by behaving that way.
Good villains has understandable motives and a fan can empathize with.
I think the main distinction between an Antihero and Villain is the severity of their negative traits/behavior and how much it relates to their motive/goal. For example: A Villain will want to save the earth and bring true peace though genocide and mass extinction of the human race, while an Antihero might want to save the earth through forcing their opinions into the world, even if it means eliminating those who cross them.
It's funny how laughably easy it is to break their whole strategy by just telling them you know what's up. Like, they know what they're trying to do, and if you just indicate that you also know what they're trying to do, they can do jack shit. They'll ask these questions intended to make you immediately respond in defense, or say things like "we already have so much evidence." When you don't fall for their psychological tricks, the jig is up. I also love how once the guy mentioned "I only came back up here for a coke," the cop gets angry, so he tries to take the coke after. Then when the guy says "I can't finish that?" he just says, without actually saying it, "really? you're gonna be petty enough to take the last 1/3rd of a can of coke?" and that just shatters the rest of the cop's attack.
The cop didn’t have to let him finish it. So your CoPs ArE DuMB anD BaD rant is pointless. People have a job to do and junkies have drugs to do cant have one without the other.
@Juh Quite the opposite actually. If you turn on a computer screen, it would appear nobody loves the police. I'm truly afraid of the world that people like you are passively wishing for.
Guys asks for a lawyer and yet 5 hours later, he’s still sitting in interrogation, being asked questions. This is how good cases go bad. This is why scumbags walk away free as a bird after doing bad shit. Shoddy police work.
this is one of my favorite interrogations. i love it so much, sometimes i watch it over and over again multiple times throughout the day. great work jcs! :)
As far as my understanding of Miranda v US and relevant cases, this is totally ILLEGAL. He asked for his lawyer, they had to stop right there, not wait a few hours and come back. To make it worse, you know they were playing on the fact that he would be withdrawing, and hoped that it would exacerbate his willingness to comply Totally illegal, unconstitutional.
Realistically I doubt Jeff could afford a lawyer, so they'd have to appoint one. That can take a while and in the meantime they were promising him soda so he'd keep talking. If he agreed to the interview, even if its just because he wanted soda, then they can try multiple times.
this explains the demise of my brother Jeff. Jeff finally overdosed in 2019, but like this Jeff, he was a regular on police blotters in multiple states.
the ultimate was in 2012 when he was arrested and underwent psychiatric care. the day after a psychiatrist told me he would be treated, he was released. the $100 i deposited at the jail for food and a blanket was given to Jeff. Jeff went and bought a bottle of Rum and drank himself unconscious.
9 years later and a dozen arrests in MD and Florida and my Brother is dead.
our system of justice lets criminals go and addicts simply fill up the arrest blotter to keep people busy.
I do love these videos. This one is a bit different for me, because I was actually addicted to heroin for 6 years also, and I've also been arrested for something I haven't done
jeff saying that if they had anything they wouldnt be in that room is very very true. They may have some evidence but do not have enough evidence to ensure it is a 100% guilty charge. Jeff is smart.
You know what you do with drug addicts? You get them help, not lock them away. One results in high chance of positive outcome, while the other perpetuates the 'revolving door' analogy.
The “all while going through the early stages of heroin withdrawal” I feel is such a bigger factor than lead on. It would be so hard to keep composure in those days.
I like how at the end you gave us a fairytale and the potential truth. Thank you for that. Without looking too much further into this, I'm going to take the narrative that he got clean.
Before u even explained it i already felt sympathy when u said hes a heroin addict bc i am one aswell and i get why they rob and steal because the fear of withdrawal is so immense its unbearable. But i never did any of that so theres also a way without beeing a criminal but i know how easy it can happen to you.
The saddest part of your commentary… the addiction itself should shed light on his humanity.
Every drug addict you ever met is struggling, and I bet you everything I own they never said when they were a little boy or little girl - “when I grow up I want to be hooked on drugs or alcohol”…
Every fucking one of them is struggling, and nobody asked to be that way… they’re all sick and need help wether they know it or not. And in the big picture - they’re sick- period
was a heroin addict for 5 years - all i know is this man is about to start kickinggggg, I can tell lol and hes just likeeee come on man, if u dont let me out of here for what i did not do im about to be sick as a dog and I can tell by his voice that he is still zooted
Whatever he did or not i feel very sorry for him..it could be right to help him first as his mind is in fog..so many ppl are involved in such shit..and they are so weak ..i wish more ppl can understand what a treak is it and how hard to get out of it..he might have different life..but again his mind is blind..
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Alice Cooper2021-11-18 18:46:19 (edited 2021-11-18 18:50:12 )
My favorite part is "I've been arrested for the same bullshit before."
And "...or is that just a fairy tale."
I also think these cops get a little high off of arresting someone like jeff.
Most important thing. Remaining silent. Most people are uncomfortable with silence, but if ever anyone gets arrested, even if you know you are completely innocent... remain quiet. Do not try and "be helpful". Don't give in to that need to fill up an silent pause, no matter how long it stretches. Police think the worst of anyone in custody (they've seen the worst, so even good cops are like this and it's understandable). If "anything you say can and will be used against you", your best tactic is... Say. Nothing. Ever.
2 months after: this guy got his face burnt with bleach and suddenly his skin turned white and he went crazy and then burns his eyelids and gashes his cheeks to make a smile, that's why he his name is jeff 😂
I'm disappointed in the narration of this one. The focus on his drug addiction and the strange anti hero tangent was far less interesting and relevant than an analysis of the interrogation from both sides of the table. Missed opportunity to explore a failed interview and the effect on both Jeff and the officers.
As a former heroin addict its always sad to see someone facing huge prison time for something they only probably did to get well. Im sure as a sober man, Jeff would never rob a store. This is why we need to rehabilite addicts, not punish them.
@PianoDisneygal10 im not saying he doesnt deserve punishment but there is a difference between rehabilitation and throwing someone in prison for 20 years
This analysis is so far wide of the mark that it's silly. What are you talking about "glimmer of humanity" the man demonstrated more humanity than any other person in the footage.
Too much Joseph Campbell, and too little understanding. The antihero is a good guy who uses the tactics of the bad guys usually against the even badder guys. That's it. There's no moral change, no redemption.
Life in prison for Armed robbery ? I’m not trying to say I support robbery lol but doesn’t that seem a bit much ? Provided they don’t actually hurt anyone in the robbery
Ronnie Jones2020-07-02 00:42:47 (edited 2020-07-03 23:14:46 )
Man when Jeff said " you look like a prick " I bet it was hard for the officers in the back NOT to piss themselves laughing. It was a nice, timely shot he took there.......ha
This is why good defense attorneys are so important. I feel like they always get such a bad rap for having to defend the guilty, but people forget that they defend the innocent a lot of times too.
"(...)but people forge that they defend the innocent a lot of times too." And that, precisely, is why the right to one is so important. I often hear people complain about defence attorneys in a manner that seems to equate being accused and being guilty way too often
"Do you understand the rights I have explained to you?" "No!" "Huh? "Yeah-"
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Jack Kawf2021-06-13 15:45:07 (edited 2021-06-13 15:45:25 )
In an odd way I understand that.... At first he initially was like "wait, no! Fuck this!" Then just as quickly his mind went to "ah fuck it...yeah, whatever."
@Jack Kawf don’t think so. He’s purposely giving false answers to be able to fight it in court. In no way is he agreeing or disagreeing to anything. I’ve done this exact thing when being interrogated by cops. If you give the multiple mixed answers it always gives you an out and then they can’t use it so reliably in court against you. I can easily say no then they say huh? Then I say yea as in, what? And not in yea I understand.
you know they specifically kept him there as long as possible hoping that his withdrawals will become unbearable and, due to irritability and discomfort, lead him to say something that they can use for their case...apparently thats considered to be justice.
@Mirror16 not just america thats torture 101 everyone whose jobe is tro extract info will have to do something to ~get~ info, threats, weaknesses, physical assault anyghing goes as long as the extractor gets the info
@cabadman1 I don't understand why people can't want their own country to be better when there are problems. What's wrong with admitting we're far from perfect?
Pretty sure you know this and were just joking, but just in case you weren't, they need a definite yes otherwise lawyers will come up with whatever excuse to invalidate anything they say in the interrogation and could get away with it.
but yeah, he knows how it works, and taunts the police while giving them nothing; trying to trick them into doing something drastic so he can claim he was mistreated by the police when it comes to court.
I love how the detective says "convince me" - I don't have to convince you of anything, you are not the judge nor my jury of peers. I will not provide speak until my lawyer is present. Thank you for the coke
And some people get tried, convicted, and sentenced to death on the sidewalk.
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Black Sun Empire2020-07-01 06:25:14 (edited 2020-07-01 06:27:01 )
@Anthony G It doesn't matter, he's still an American citizen who's due his rights, and he chose to exercise them, and he did so damn-near flawlessly (seeing as he was released shortly after) If you're an American citizen, you could be in Jeff's position one day whether you committed the crime or not, and you'll be happy you have those same rights. Jeff is 100% right when he said the cops aren't your friends, they're there to pin a crime on someone. There's a reason the words "Anything you say, CAN AND WILL, be used AGAINST YOU" in your rights, because it's true. Jeff knew this, Jeff used this to his advantage, and to his eventual freedom. Jeff is awesome.
So many big men talking. At the end of the day, though, those legs will be trembling hoping to catch a break. This is a legit hardened criminal. Stop pretending.
@XxDonLoboxX Maybe if the State would help him with his addiction he could straighten his life up, but alas they would prefer him and many others to rot in a cell than help them with their drug addiction.
Yeah. Sounds easy enough. However. They basically are allowed to torture you for hours on end psychologically. You are scared. Nervous. Depressed. Angry. But yes.
Never talk to the police. The police knows this very well. It can only lead to bad things when you are in this situation. They are experts at getting things out of you. Even if you are telling the truth and what you are saying wasn't incriminating.
They might have a witness who remember things wrongly and you admission to something non-incriminating and truthful might set you in a bad way.
You can't even use the words you have said for your own benefit. It will be rejected as hearsay while the cops and prosecutors can use whatever they heard you say. Because it comes from observations on what the defendant said in their presence.
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Adam C2020-07-22 18:32:56 (edited 2020-07-22 18:34:42 )
Don't speak to the police at all. If they arrest you they aren't being nice to get the story straight. They are trying to cover every angle so you are good and fucked. Even if you did nothing and they got the wrong guy. SAY NOTHING. your fight is in court.
@Adam C You where self-aggrandizing and calling people weak. I wager you have not been in any simular pressed situation. The alternative is you are a hard core criminal.
Those are basically the only ones who can keep quiet for hours and hours on end.
They will also use any method to trick you. If you watched the lecture I linked to you would understand that for a normal person you have very small chances of keeping completely silent.
Remember. You haven't slept. You are hungry. You have intimidating people around you. Both others in jail and your captors.
You don't have control over the lighting. The noises. They put you in a room designed to break you. Making it small. The position of your chair and what you can see is designed to maximize they efforts.
Just waving it all away is like saying those who got put in blackhouses for terrorism suspicion could just relax and enjoy the hardcore metal, constant light, sleep deprivation, intimidation, hunger, thirst, even peeing and having a shit.
You can destroy any man through enough mental pressure. It is just a matter of how long someone will last. Now. The cops are probably not that bad but the kind of pressure they can put on you and the state they can control you in is there.
Stop your grandstanding and pounding of your chest. This isn't pretend to be tough with the mates. I'm talking about reality.
yeah innocent or guilty. except when they ask you "Do you understand" when trying to fine you and if refuse to speak they threaten to throw you in lock up for being drunk and disorderly with only 4 standard drinks under your belt.
In my country it can actually help you .. Talk to the police, give reasonings, if they are empathetic to your situation and why you commited a crime, it can heavily reduce your sentence
@Adam C honestly cops will lie, they'll say you know you could go to jail if you don't tell me how fast you were going when in reality thats not true, I dont think its bad advice to say not to talk to cops, there's crooked cops even now and unless you know him personally you probably shouldn't talk, like they'll act like your friend and then put in jail for life like idk where you grew up.
Adam C well arnt your just the badass.... they are no doubt not really professional but in this business in their line of work someone incompetent is just as dangerous if not more dangerous than an extremely competent one they both can easily send it to the slammer and give you hell. So saying nothing to Cops in either situation is great advice. Oh and what a Cop being overweight have to do with anything? “I aight scared of no fat detective” shit we did think you were. Ah Lol you are funny.
Cop : "You have the right to remain silent." JEFF : "I'm not talking to the police." Cop : "You have the right to an attorney." JEFF : "I want to talk to a lawyer."
Then proceeds 7 hours of questioning with NO legal counsel provided ......
He left for two hours shortly after saying that. He probably had contact with a defense counsel. Jeff went back for the last interview in his own words to score another coke.
Neither Jeff, nor the cops mentioned anything about any of them speaking to an attorney. It's very possible that Jeff just played them to score another coke, but a 50 cent coke isn't worth risking a verbal slip-up that might cost you the next 10 years of your life !
@marby602 When you're in heroin withdrawal and can't get any opiates, then carbonated sugar water straight into your bloodstream is worth 10 years, because it's the next best thing. Consider that next time you see an overweight person and wonder why they can't stop eating boxes of cookies.
@Fata Morgana You can invent any bullshit you wish to try and legitimize a stupid lifestyle choice, and the subsequent CHOICES made in connection with them...... but don't for one second think anyone actually believes that a can of coke is worth 10 years of freedom !! Regardless of the person's lack of willpower !!
@lilyteeth I'm intelligent enough NOT to drive down that pointless dead-end-street of life to begin with !! Just like I don't need to choose to jump into a pile of cactus to know it's going to hurt like hell.
Point being : Someone who chooses to needlessly put themselves through a tough time, DOESN'T deserve props for getting out of something they should have been smart enough to avoid in the first place !
@marby602 You act like you are superior to addicts because what? Because you got a job at your daddy's insurance firm that someone that has even barely passed highschool could do better than you? Because you don't have a hard enough life for you to have to consider abusing substances to turn the sadness down? Imagine feeling superior because you don't have to struggle in life, oh wait, you already do that.
@carl "Superior" wouldn't be the term I would use, but individuals like me clearly have more common-sense & better decision making skills. As far as the irrelevant & hypothetical "insurance firm" you've conjured up...... machinist don't work at insurance companies. Wrong again. I've had plenty of life's hard times, and as previously mentioned, I don't choose dead-end paths and think that's a remedy.
@(o'.')=o(#','@) I understand that it is a sad situation for people, and I have helped someone help themselves in a couple of cases. If the term "common-sense" works better for you than intelligence, fine, but either way I'm sure you get the point. And "men of god" hardly qualify as people possessing common-sense !! LOL..... bad example bro !! I never said I was above them in the manner you insinuate, but I clearly make better life decision than them. No slipping when your on solid steady ground.
@marby602 addiction is genetic. It runs in families. You really think the junkies living out on the street are happy with the lives they lead and choose to live the way they do? It has absolutely NOTHING to do with common sense, intelligence or making better life decisions. Its all luck and you just happen to get lucky and not have the disease or a family of addicts. Jeff here was not so lucky.
@Isqueakif yousqueeze sorry to correct you but if I m not wrong than addiction is only partially genetic, there are a lot more factors and people with no addiction in their families can also easily get addicted to sustances.
@Isqueakif yousqueeze Oh... there you go... yet another excuse for certain people to use in order to avoid their own responsibilities to themselves for their decisions. That shit only makes this problem worse ! I never said they're happy with the lives they lead. Emphasis on THEY LEAD. because it is they who are in control of their choices, and when they go through a treatment program, they make the choices to better their lives for themselves ! The successful treatments are the ones undertaken by those who understand their mistakes... learn from them... and choose to better themselves. When someone gets treatment because the court ORDERS them to, or to avoid jail, those don't usually work because it's not the individuals choice. It's got EVERYTHING to do with common-sense & individual choice, and that "Luck of the dice" crap is just a cop-out designed to remove responsibility from where it belongs !!
@(o'.')=o(#','@) I don't have any "bubble" to burst or remain inflated. And the "guy sitting across from me" are merely co-workers at work, and NONE of us are substance abusers. Here's a little wakeup call for you..... MOST people in life DON'T make the horribly bad choice to abuse chemical substances !
@carl There is no second coming, or first. Simply making a common-sense decision to not abuse a chemical substance , and ruin a good portion of your life DOESN'T take perfection. Quite the opposite..... people do it regularly, and they do it every day of the week !
@Chris Akans I hope I never get sick either, but I was clearly referring to the people who choose to take an addictive substance WITHOUT a legitimate need. But IF that were to take place, I already know the pitfalls of those substances, and would most likely avoid them. NOT because of "superiority" but simply through understanding of their nature !
@Rudimental Yeah I know...... people with common-sense, kindness towards others, conscious of their health, non-superstitious, hard working, and good parents..... you're so right..... what losers ! LMAO
@carl Absolutely, especially if I found out that there was something about tea that has severe health consequences. Couple weeks ago, work ran out and just had water & lemonade for 6 days..... nobody flipped out.
@marby602 mhm, now tell me. What other substances do you consume that contains the psychoactive drug called caffine? And could you quit sugar? I have heard it is just as addictive as cocaine. Actually, why don't you try it? Try going without sugar or caffine for let's say a month, let's see how superior you really are.
@marby602 And the negative health effects of caffine can be rather undesireable. The list is not that big but is not too nice including higher blood pressure, faster heart rate, sleep distruption, anxiety, increased urin output (all of which developes with chronic use). The withdrawal is pretty bad too, may I even say worse than what effects it has while you are constantly doped up on it. The list of withdrawal symptoms include sleepiness, headache, increased irritability, drowsiness, ect. Now about sugar, sugar has tons of negatives tied to it. The list is pretty long but I will try to write it down for you: Faster aging of the skin, joint pain, heart disease, heightened risk of diabetes, obesity, jittery movement, kidney damage, NAFLD (non-alcoholic fatty liver disease), NASH (non-alcoholic steatohepatitis), make it harder for you to get your willy up and many more. Now you have reason to quit both of them (also, sugar gives your brain high doses of dopamine wich makes it harder to quit). No need to thank me! :)
@carl LOL...... what's with this "superior" malarkey ? I never made any such statement. So now I'm supposed to take a tangent from my life that is (and has been) working out just fine, and start consuming something to the point of addiction, so I can then kick this self induced dependency..... and all that for the purpose of proving to YOU that I can do it. IF I was that stupid, I'd already be a heroin user !! LOL !! As I've stated earlier : "I don't need to stick my hand on a hot stove to know it's going to hurt like hell". What I do is not touch the stove burner in the first place, and there's nothing "superior" about making such a decision.
@marby602 and you are now using the "So you are saying" tactic to win this argument. I just told you to try quitting sugar and caffine, not start doing heroin
@marby602 sorry but u're not being kind lmao and u know noone that's going through an addiction, do u? Humans can get addicted to anything. How many hours a day u use ur phone? Can u throw it out the window and not buy another for a month? U're human nonetheless, u're not immune to addiction. Be proud that u have the power to make decisions right now, but never underestimate the power of problems and how they affect people.
@xArzneimittel What's "not kind", pointing out the truth? I don't currently know anyone choosing to take drugs to the point of addition, but I did help 2 in the past. And NO, you can't get addicted to "anything", so stop trying to insinuate that anyone can become a JEFF and we have no say & no self determination in our lives, because that is total horse shit !!
@carl And IF I was consuming excessive levels of caffeine or sugar.... IF I had blood pressure issues..... IF I was a fat-ass..... then I would take you up on your challenge to quit what's hurting me. But NONE of those things are true, so why completely cut out green tea, when all I have is 2 small cups every 7 days ? It makes no sense !
@marby602 I am sorry I overestimated you. Clearly you are not up for the challange and don't have the willpower to quit such miniscule things such as sugar and green tea.
@carl Quit the tea for WHAT reason ? You might as well say "To much oxygen can be harmful, and you should quit breathing air for a while, even though you aren't actually over breathing, just quit anyway"...... That's utter non-sense ! A person only needs to quit something that is a clear detriment to them.
There would be no willpower required to give up 2 small cups of tea per week. That is an insignificant level of intake.
SightForMemories yep. Jeff was smart enough to know that if they had evidence they wouldn’t be pulling him out of his cell every hour begging him to talk.
marby602 in jail a coke is worth way more than that tho. Especially when withdrawing for heroin. You’d fuck with the cops and watch them beg you to talk for hours just to get some mild reprieve from laying there feeling like hell
marby602 you don’t understand human psychology in the slightest. You sound like the type to demonize marijuana yet is totally cool getting drunk at a bar.
marby602 also poly addicts exist. Addiction is in the brain and the mindset. You can’t get addicted to video games but you can get addicted to the feeling of playing video games. Marijuana is not physically addictive but you can get addicted to the overall feeling of being high so you smoke all the time.
@carl The point of the argument is valid.... which is WHY stop consuming a beverage which has beneficial antioxidant properties that far outweigh the small amount of caffeine in the drink ? There is NO good reason to do that, therefore I won't. Next you'll be saying to stop eating apples because the seeds contain minuscule amounts of arsenic..... stop drinking my fresh grapefruit juice because of its acidity.... stop drinking an occasional glass of wine because other people can't handle their liquor..... NONE of which makes any sense ! Nor do you !
@Annoyed Viewer I never said it had anything to do with someone's intelligence quotient. There are plenty of book-smart people, highly educated people, who don't poses a lick of COMMON-SENSE !! It's the people with good common-sense that know to steer clear of a destructive & highly additive substance use for "recreation".
@carl I am the reason? That's interesting. I realize you have a tendency to shift the blame on secondary parties, but HOW exactly am I to blame for someone else not getting treatment ? As stated earlier, I have helped 2 friends help themselves with this type problem. THEY did the hard part, and I made it easier for them to focus on their goals. Since they were doing it for the right reason, they succeeded.
@SightForMemories When I decide to post up all my personal information on YouTube, you will be the first to know.
The possession of those things, or the lack of them, still doesn't change the Fact that causing yourself greater suffering in life will only make things worse. Therefore it's clearly a bad choice to make !
@SightForMemories "then why try"?.... why try what ?
I don't know ALL the answers. If I did, I would have won the lottery already. I do understand the common-sense things in life very well, and that's enough to steer clear of "H".
“I have enough evidence of armed robbery” “Like what” “😐”
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David Dean2020-07-22 14:04:57 (edited 2020-07-22 14:09:00 )
@Van peter Point is Peter, they really don't have anything on this guy. Their solution doesn't benefit anyone and only cost more taxpayer money. Basically this method of policing is wasteful, utter bullshit and predatory. Being a heroin addict, he needs a program of rehabilitation and life skills training, not some police officer trying to fuck his life up so he can get a bonus. The second interviewer literally tries to trick him into signing the confession right off the bat by saying its his Miranda rights.
Cops are lying every single second. "We have evidence" is the biggest one. They obviously don't. "We have a witness that saw you do this" no, they don't. "Your friend already confessed and said it was your idea" no, they didn't. The best thing you could do is say as little as possible and believe nothing they tell you.
CCTV surveillance footage? Fingerprints on guns he used? Eye witnesses? Information from his neighbours or family? Reports to police from his victims? LOL
@LYNX there was nothing in the story about surveillance footage, or fingerprints, or eye witnesses, or police reports, he was at his friends house and came outside when he heard police.
LOL he says after bringing him in multiple times in the man is asking for a lawyer every time, anyways he says I have enough evidence of your armed robbery and he doesn't even say it with any conviction LOL he's not even a good liar LOL trying to tell the man he has evidence when obviously he has squat. I don't know what happens with this case but I'm about to finish watching it and I'm hoping he gets let go. Addiction is nothing funny and he needs to be offered a long term treatment center. He actually seems like you would be a very nice if not in active addiction. Obviously he said thank you for the Coke and he did not have to do that!!!
@Cmobley_ 7231 Makes me think of this one time in kindergarten when I was 5. I had undiagnosed ADHD and autism spectrum disorder, so I did a lot of impulsive things back then. One very notable one was the day I wanted to recreate a scene from the live-action Scooby-Doo movie where Daphnie stole Velma's glasses and she shook Fred saying "I'm gonna kill you Daphnie!" I, a dumbass 5-year-old, did not inform any of the other people I involved in the spontaneous skit, and the poor kid I shook told the teacher. Later I was sent to the principal and for some reason, I recall the lady with a notecard and continuously asking if I had said "I'm going to kill you with a knife". Thankfully, I'm one of those people who is very adamant that everyone knows the facts and truth of a situation if I can help it, even though sometimes it leads to me taking a joke too seriously or causing awkward situations because I need to work on keeping my mouth shut. The principal didn't seem like the best person for the job considering some stories my mom (who was working there at the time) told me.
The first time one of these guys was smart and didn't talk to the police. Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't, but some heroin junkie in Georgia is smarter than everybody else who gets interrogated in these videos and that's why I root for him.
Mainly because...compared to those other suspects in these videos, Jeff had been into the system multiple times, to know what’s what! You can tell when the detective try’s to establish connection, he immediately dismisses him by saying “I don’t talk to the police, you are not my friend”
It’s because he has Been interrogated before, trust me if u have been interrogated once before and talked to prove your innocence you know not to do it again. the cop isnt trying to help you, he is trying to make you say that you did it
Jeff: "I didn't do it" Officer: "Convince me I've got a lot of evidence, I've got a lot of physical evidence" Jeff: "Like what?" Officer: "(Gibberish) Why should I tell you that?"
(That shit really makes me mad because that already tells him that there wasn't any of him)
@Dwayne Johnson can you do us a favor and, if you happen to know any of these “Jeffs”, convince them to legally chance their name to Jeff? we need to form a swarm
I’ve withdrawn from morphine and dilaudid addiction which just means I was a legal heroin addict; I feel his pain. The stomach and bowel cramps, the horrendous diarrhea, the malaise, the flu symptoms, the weakness. I know how good that soda tastes too. Two things got me thru detox, sugar and tobacco. This man’s a trooper, and oddly endearing.
My mom had addiction problems after starting Vicodin for chronic pain which led to Fentanyl and oxy. Now she’s been 4-5 months clean of everything. Weed was her way out of stuff that I could literally see draining her life from her. She looks younger and healthier and even feels less chronic pain now. I wish you well wishes on your journey sir. I know it’s not easy.
@ThatGuyWhoComments Trading one addiction for another is generally a bad thing, yes. But replacing a heroin addiction with a tobacco addiction? Sounds like a hell of a good trade to me.
That's the mistake people make. They automatically think "oh he's a druggie he must be stupid" They let there guard down and get outsmarted
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Isaac P. Pearson2020-09-29 02:11:07 (edited 2020-09-29 02:12:37 )
Right from the start, the police are inviting him to play a game that they know they will win, if he agrees to play. By refusing to play, and walking away from the game, he won. There is a lesson there for everyone.
Isaac P. Pearson - amen , they turn on you so quick to get the info they want from you, then throw you under a bus and back up over you. ugh so frustrating.
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Isaac P. Pearson2020-09-29 17:04:56 (edited 2020-09-29 17:05:20 )
@Jess B The picture that came to my mind when I read your phrase, "....and back up over you. Ugh..." almost made me shudder, but it seems to be true, based on the interrogation videos and lawyers' advice videos that I've seen. I was a paratrooper when I was young and I strongly support the police, but these videos show just how manipulative and cold detectives can be if you are a suspect, so if I'm ever in their custody I'll say nothing and "lawyer up" immediately.
Yes. Violating people's basic rights does not seem to be a concern of this department. I assume the video of him saying he wanted an attorney would disappear if he did start talking later in the day.
They took him back to his cell every time. He would then claim he was ready to talk and did not want a lawyer, so they’d go get him and bring him back for questioning. I realize not all of us have worked in law enforcement but it doesn’t really take much to figure out what he’s doing.
@Erc Ly it's not a concern in most police departments. They do and say what they want to. Biggest majority of officers of the law abuse their authority and try and bully civilians into rolling over on ppl. So they ain't gotta do the job in which they are paid to do.
@Trevor Rogers He could have talked to a lawyer between interviews. I haven't looked into the case but there's a pretty big chance that happened since we don't know what happens during that time. I wouldn't call people names for simply stating another opinion 🤷🏼♀️
Quit trying to be edgy lol. The “buddy act” isn’t an act. I’m studying to be a psychologist and approaching someone who is in trouble with a “buddy act” can get them to talk real quick. It’s not bad or anything, in-fact if Jeff realizes that it’s an “act” (it isn’t) then he is only going to get worse, which is the opposite of what the justice system wants. The cop was still a bit of an asshole for not giving him a lawyer though.
ミームロード:::Meme Lord lol they aren’t being edgy, approaching someone with the “buddy act” does get them to talk fast, thats why its an act, every interrogation they try and make you incriminate yourself by being friendly and blinding you of the fact, you really think these cops feel bad for some of these guys? Take the girl who put a hit out on her parents, the cop said he understood and that shes not a bad person, you really think thats what he thought? Pff
Lawson Denny a lawyer needs to be provided/ allowed to be contacted immediately after being asked and questioning stops until they get there. I’m not “assuming” anything. That would be considered refusal by continuing to question him after he requested legal council.
@ミームロード:::Meme Lord In the U.S. is not being an "asshole" its called violating constitutional rights when someone asks for a lawyer- the interview was supposed to end because thats a positive assertion of miranda rights. Theoretically, the officer committed a federal offense under 18 USC 242 by continuing the interview.
John Doe I know that, I’m just saying that it’s not a system. I’ve made that clear a billion times.
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John Doe2020-09-22 08:14:48 (edited 2020-09-22 08:17:13 )
@Lawson Denny Not quite- it is the duty of the leo to terminate the interview once Miranda is invoked meaning you cant deliberately keep questioning in a structured interview. Also once Miranda is invoked there is a strong presumption against a secondary waiver unless an additional document is signed- these days leos have to document the waiver via a signed document.
@Lawson Denny and I never said you masturbated in public either. But thanks for your confession- the lord blesses you for it. Any other catholic confessions you'd like to make while we're holding confessional?
Joey Bobby With interrogators, or inmates? Because yes, the buddy act is real, but in this situation in the video, the interrogator is not using the act.
@ミームロード:::Meme Lord "I'll talk to the parole officer for you, I'll talk to the DA for your, tell them you're a great guy". What a fucking joke. The interrogator is under no obligation to do that and even if he did it wouldn't mean jack shit to anyone including the court (therefore it's an act, it's not what it seems to be). He's also pretending he's trying to help out a guy who got released from jail the very next day for lack of evidence (therefore he was pretending to be a buddy, trying to get evidence to detain him longer). Buddy confirmed. Act confirmed. It was a buddy act. Could it have been more extreme? Sure, but there is absolutely no wiggle room in this definition, we observed an interrogation that used a "buddy act" technique to try to solicit evidence in this video.
This video just shows WHY you really don't talk to cops in that situation. They try to screw you. Guys says he wants a lawyer and simply doesn't get one, instead he gets pressed and pressed while withdrawal kicks in.
@Dxmnk Schxfr Bruh. A police did something wrong, it's a personal thing. You can't blame whole system for that. You can say system is corrupt but it's not system's fault, it'd thr peoples fault
@Dxmnk Schxfr Man, the police is actually trying to get the bad guys. I know that among all the arrests there may be innocents, but in the majority of cases these people are criminals, and they don't need your concern, at all.
They keep bringing him back in because each time they read him his rights, then that cancels out his request for a lawyer in the previous questioning. So he would need to request a lawyer each time he is brought in for questioning. Also the cops know he is a heroin addict so they are keeping him incarcerated until he is completely jonesing for the drug, knowing he might talk to them and tell them where he was and what he was doing at the time of the robbery. They are banking on him defending himself just to get out of the police station so that he can get some drugs. It's no different then starving someone and not feeding them any food. After 4 days of no food or water the guy will talk and try to defend himself just so he can leave to get something to eat because of starvation. This is what the cops are doing but Jeff is smart enough not to fall for it.
It's a comparison. Of course you must feed food and water. But for many addicted people, if given a choice between the two, they would choose drugs because their body and minds need it. Or they feel they need it. If he did an armed robbery then he should spend time in jail. However, you should never speak to police investigators. Even if you are completely innocent, you don't ever speak to investigators without a lawyer. This dope head guy knows this. He has enough knowledge or wisdom to know to never speak to them. I was simply pointing out the strategy of the police here. They know they have a week to keep bringing him in while he is in withdrawal.
That’s absolutely incorrect... if you ask for a lawyer they cannot talk to you without a lawyer being present. Rereading you your rights after you verbally said you understand them does not reset anything
Ah I didn't even think about that! Damn, that must really suck! In a way their manipulating someone who may or may not be innocent to confess (guilty in this case) under extreme stress (addiction).
@patrick peters1988 are you a drug addict? Have you been around drug addicts? They WILL choose drugs over food all the way till complete starvation drugs dont suck the fat off ur body, the countless times a junkie will choose a cheap high over a cheap meal is why they turn to skin and bones. So to sum it up, yes drugs and food are acceptably comparable for an addict
The unprofessionalism of these cops are so unreal, Jeff asked for a lawyer more than 2 times, he should only have to ask once, still didn’t get one though.
@asdf the cop literally states that he has the right to stop answering questions at any time until a lawyer is present. To then prod him for more questions is infringing upon that right directly, as he has made it clear he wishes to exercise that right. While the cop certainly can keep asking questions, it's just going to be more fodder for the attorney to pull up against him as evidence that they were mistreating Jeff.
@XP_Shared wrong. They can still ask questions during the time before a lawyer shows up, which is exactly what happened here. After the first interrogation, they still have the right to pull him into an interrogation, but cant force him to say anything. They can ask questions but if he wont answer he cant be hurt by that.
@Connor Endres funny how you ignore the part where I say "the cop can certainly keep asking questions, but" and explain why it's detrimental to do so. Also, to keep him there for over 5 hours and try to question him again is a clear attempt to put him under mental duress. Which is not a valid way of obtaining information or evidence, as stated by almost any case where a forced confession occurs. Good attempt, though, you certainly have a future as an armchair officer.
@Connor Endres also, the first google search of "can an officer keep asking you questions after you ask for attorney" it outright states they cannot, according to multiple websites. He had made it quite certain he only wanted an attorney, leaving 0 interpretation to his words. Maybe research your own opinion before you weigh in?
@ToFu because they're literally misinforming people about an infringement of a right by disputing the facts, without any sources or information to back it up. I also wouldn't be talking if you're just going to resort to ad-hominems and not actually make a point.
Jeff is a textbook example of what you should do when interrogated by the police. Lots of innocent people are in jail for talking (thinking, I am innocent and the truth will win. It does not. The Police are not on your side). If the police have physical evidence an interrogation is not needed. However, if you end up in court then you talk during the trial which will be more fair with witnesses of what you say. Look for seminars and teaching of defence lawers, they will say the same thing as I.
Not really, he said a lot. He’s very talkative and while most of what he said had nothing to do with the situation he did mention some things about it. If you’re talking you’re not thinking. Just ask for a lawyer and say nothing else other than, “when is my lawyer arriving?”
Pretty hilarious that on this channel the one person that does a good job in the interrogation room is the literal heroin junkie in the middle of withdrawal who just wants a coke.
@Bernardo c yea it’s the same in the US that’s what a guilty plea is in court. But this isn’t court it’s an interrogation room designed to gather as much evidence against you. You never confess in an interrogation room, it will be used to against you in court. If the cops say “just tell us what happened, we already know but we want to hear it from you” what that really means they don’t have substantial evidence that probably won’t hold up in court but please tell us so we can charge you and win the case.
Doesn't matter how innocent you are, there's only four words you should ever say in an interrogation: "I want a lawyer." The police are not your friends; they will not do anything for you. This is their job. They are not there to help you. Again, no matter how innocent you are--they are not there to help! There is nothing you can say that will help you get released. Nothing! DO NOT SPEAK except to say, "I want a lawyer." If they keep asking questions, "Are you refusing my request for a lawyer? I want a lawyer." I was tgiven this advice by a friend who was an NYPD Detective for 20 years. Jeff was smart!
This is all true. In many cases if they don't have evidence they will make it up. "I want a lawyer" is all that should be said EVER! It is amazing that even after he asks for a lawyer they continue to question him. That's an absolute violation of his Constitutional rights.
@Oldbatwit All that's true. and Jeff is smart regarding how he handled the situation. Look at how he never said anything that could incriminate himself--good or bad.. He knew the system and that the police are there to pin him down and find discrepancies. A lawyer would tell his/her client "Don't say anything."
@The Devil's Advocate Nevertheless, he is an addict and still knew how to conduct himself. He said nothing to incriminate himself. He didn't try to explain his actions or his motivations. He didn't give the police anything; so they had to proceed on whatever evidence they had--if any beyond circumstantial. He was smart in the way he played the system's game.
Either way, if there is actual solid evidence, it will come out in court regardless. Anything else in the interrogation is merely an add-on charge. Police build cases, not defend them in court; not enough people know to stay silent or request a lawyer to be present.
The Devil's Advocate ::::: Being smart has nothing to do with whether you self medicate or not. Person's that are extremely hurt self medicate. The fact that you neglect all this is a sign that YOU are not SMART.
If you're a US Citizen who has been arrested by US Police, sure. Atleast in Australia, their job is to enforce the law, keep the peace and help the citizens of their nation. My interactions with officers has been extremely positive in Australia, I had an intervention order served to me after my ex filed for one, when she filed she claimed I owned guns (at the time I didnt) and that I was extremely violent and unhinged, when officers arrived to serve the paper to me (and a court summons) they arrived with 4 at the door and 2 on standby at their patrol vehicles, they were equipped with vests and were prepared to draw their firearms while also carrying enormous cans of pepper spray. When they saw me in my pajamas and confused, it clicked in their heads that the warning they received was a fabrication, especially when they asked if I owned firearms and I denied that I did. They were cool, collected and polite to me and after the initial introduction at the door, they were just generally respectful of me, particularly when I broken down in a panic about it all. One officer, a female, sat me down on the couch and talked me through the situation about how they had to collect items that were in dispute of having been stolen until the court case and other things. Other cases, such as when four detectives broke into my fathers house to arrest my brother for armed assault left me again with a panic attack after barricading myself in my room. At the time all I saw were plain clothed people trying to peek into windows in the house (which was a fenced off property with the entrances locked, so they had to climb in to approach) so I thought my brother had angered some gang members or something (since I knew he was doing drugs and was messing around with gangs at the time) since I'm a pretty strait laced sort of person, it sent me into a panic and when they forced entry on the room (thinking I was my brother) they tried to defuse the situation as calmly as possible.
You should always ask for a lawyer in interrogations, yes, because you don't know the law very well if at all and should get someone who does to help you, but if you aren't in the US, the police are meant to help you, not cause you harm. Particularly because they get paid a steady wage with benefits unlike the US.
Jeff was very smart and clearly had been around the block a few times, when the cop said “give me something I’ll give you something, I’ll tell the prosecutor you were helpful” and Jeff was like that doesn’t mean dick. And he was so right they try to make it seem like they’re on your side and want what’s best for you and believing them will fuck you over real quick
@TheCoffeeNut711 Honestly, that's kind of what they are hoping for. As was said in the video, they want info to try and pin you down. The other urge is to talk and explain. The less you say the less your lawyer will have to undo. I sound like I've had all sorts 9f interactions with the criminal justice system. I haven't personally. However, I did work as an intermediary between the homeless/mentally ill and the criminal justice system for se3veral years. I saw a lot.
There is a great retirement plan for junkies. You have to be smart to get the junkie pension. All you smart junkies enough of your excuses. “Come on it’s time to get sober “ All your smarts are killing you.
@The Devil's Advocate sir Isaac Newton, one of the most inteligent humans in history died because he consumed mercury regularly. Substance abuse isn't really a good metric to determine intelligence my guy. Freud was a coke head, Francis crick was high on LSD half the time, plenty of incredibly smart people have history of drug abuse. And plenty of people that are dumb as rocks never touched a drug in their lives.
100% correct. They aren't your friends and they twist words and manipulate. No, never talk without an attorney and its smart. People rarely know their rights. This is how coerced confessions happen.
@J K never committed a crime in my life FYI. I had my first ticket in 20 years Dec 26. I wouldn't have my career if I was out committing crimes. Ridiculous assumption.
@J K lol! I'm just a smooth criminal over here! 😂 any fair minded person would know to call their attorney for the reasons listed. Circumstances aren't as black and white when discussing cooperation. We as citizens have rights too. I'm sorry you don't understand that but I'm not about to waste my Sunday explaining it to some faceless person on the internet.
@J K Nice 👍🏽Gentlemen we need a volunteer to ride up and bring us back some extra men. Please take 1 step forward for this mission that you might not survive. Everybody takes one step back except for you. You are a very brave and honorable man.
Agent 99 So, to clarify, your position is that criminals should thwart the efforts of law enforcement to hold them accountable and responsible for the crimes they commit. You sound like a criminal.
@J K I'm not saying that criminals should get away with crime. However, the criminal justice system is severely messed up in the USA. Technically most people are guilty of some kind of crime(s), almost nobody is completely innocent. "You have the right to remain silent." "Etc..." Read about your Miranda Rights here:
Even if you are a criminal, you should not do the Law Enforcement Officers (LEO) job for them. Every lawyer (and every Cop I know) in the US will tell you that you should NOT talk with LEO without an attorney present and without their advice to or not to answer any given question. Let them speak or not speak for you or advise you to or NOT to speak.
Many criminals (as well as innocent people) have been charged and convicted of charges or additional charges that they may or may not have been guilty of due to statements they made without proper representation. Lawyers screw up as well but most people will do much better with the help of an attorney (even the mostly worthless Public Defender). Confessing never helps (unless a prior negotiated deal can or has been made)! The LEO is not there to help you! Their job is to arrest and get convictions for crimes. They don't care who gets convicted, just that a conviction has been made for that crime. Of course they prefer that they get the right person, but it's not a requirement. LEO are allowed to LIE, deceive and confuse a suspect to gain any evidence and build a case. Even if it's a BS case... you would be very surprised how many people are in jail or prison that weren't guilty of the crime(s) they were convicted with. Not to say that many of them shouldn't be there anyway.
@Mike McMillan I'll tell you what is more messed up than the criminal justice system. The amount of shitty, lowlife criminal civilians who murder, rape and steal. That's the problem you need to focus on. There are very few problems if you obe the law. I obey the law have have zero problems with the police. Basically every person I know obeys the law and has zero problems with the police.
Focus on your responsibilities in being a responsible and honest citizen and focus less on whatever rights you have when fighting the police after you have committed a crime.
@J K First, I'd like to establish that I consider myself a very physically conservative, law abiding, slightly socially liberal ish conscious person with a slightly Libertarian view of things (I realize that sentence could use some work, sorry. That applies to the rest of next 2 cents as well.). I don't disagree with the ideology of staying within the Law. Even if that is sometimes harder to practice than preach or believe in. I fully believe in being a responsible and honest citizen. I do however, disagree with many LEO tactics as well as most citizens' (and LEO) lack of knowledge of the Laws and their rights. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. They are also are responsible for knowing their rights and what is and is not a violation of them.
Really, "focus less on whatever rights you have". Wow, that just seems to be an attempt to get someone to go off.
Most LEO (especially local LEO) are horribly misinformed or ignorant of actual Laws and Regulations and even Policies of the Departments they work for (some knowingly break or bend the Law). Unfortunately this is a fact that unintentionally (and somes on purpose) hurts many innocent (as I said before, nobody is completely innocent) people.
The jails are also full of people that have yet to be prosecuted in court (guilty and innocent) that can't afford the actual bail or the 10% most bail bonds charge when used. Many citizens simply take a plea deal to get out. The deal of a different or lessor charge or lessor of the many extra tacked on charges that LEO and/or Prosecutors use to get some kind of conviction Often, with horrendous repercussions, immediately or later in life. Sometimes that plea bites them later in life with unintended consequences because a new Law that comes in being and is retroactive (it happens a surprising amount). There are hundreds, probably thousands of Laws or amendments to Laws that affect many people without their knowledge. After once being in the system, any interaction with LEO, (even when a citizen is trying to do the right thing) can be disastrous or at least very uncomfortable and inconvenient.
It's always best to completely avoid any interaction or involvement with a LEO unless a person is a direct victim of a crime or witnesses a crime. Just being a witness can subject a person to incredible hardship. Although it's every citizens duty to provide accurate and timely information, usually witness testimony or affidavit is flawed, often coached, inflammatory, and usually flat inconsistent to the true facts.
Everyone knows or at least should know or educate themselves with their Rights, the Laws of the land and proper edicate if they ever do have an interaction with Law Enforcement. Law enforcement have an incredibly hard and dangerous job. People should consider that when dealing with them. They are just people that also have families, friends and co-workers. Just like any workplace, there are certainly people (LEO) that are good and some are bad at the job they have. There are very intelligent, well trained employees, as well as the opposite of each. In many areas of the world and the USA, there is socially ingrained prejudices, flat racism, ignorance, bullies, mean f****rs and a**w**les and just plain idiots. Those facts should scare the hell out everyone.
1. In this world there is too much of a focus on rights and not enough focus on responsibility. Do not confuse "too much focus" with "should be zero focus".
2. If people focus on their responsibilities 90% of the serious issues go away. Problems arise because of criminals not because of cops. If you obey the law you are HIGHLY UNLIKELY to have any kind of meaningful encounter with the police.
3. Simply put. Worry first about not committing crime before you start worrying about what you do after you have intentionally committed criminal acts. Don't put yourself in that position and 90% of the problems go away.
Yep!! A lot of innocent people are behind bars, or have died in prison, because they decided to talk to the police. There are also a lot of guilty people walking the streets, because they never talked, they lawyered up, and the police couldn't get enough evidence to convict.
@Natanya Parsons Correct, the biggest problem is guilty people getting off and then walking the streets and committing more crimes. That is not good at all.
Very few innocent people are in prison. The laws and legal procedures are very much biased in favor of not convicting innocent people.
Criminals all think they are innocent i'm sure, but it's the rare exception. No system is perfect. And most of the "innocent" people in prison are lifetime criminals anyhow, so it's probably better that they are not doing harm to others outside of prison.
@Natanya Parsons That's a good point. Should they have all confessed? Or better, turned themselves in. Does anyone that speeds, even accidentally do that? Or gets away with letting a parking meter run out accidentally? Of course not. Not to say murderers, rapists and thieves should go free, however, that doesn't mean I would expect only the honest people to be punished. The bad guys would never freely admit to those crimes (well some might, but I wouldn't count on that). Either way, everyone, even non-citizens have a right to an attorney.
Getdown AndDye cops love to play that angle “ just be honest we will help you out, we will tell so an so you cooperated” like they actually give af about what happens to you. I unfortunately learned that as a teenager and now know the best way to deal with cops is keeping your fucking mouth shut.
@J K You do realize that it's not the police's job to hold anyone accountable, right? It's the job of the criminal justice system.
Here's the definition from Britannica encyclopedia : "Police, the body of officers representing the civil authority of government. Police typically are responsible for maintaining public order and safety, enforcing the law, and preventing, detecting, and investigating criminal activities."
No one here is advocating for criminal activity. What commenters, myself included, are saying is that the police are not your friends. They are an investigative body doing a job. Their offer of advocacy is not true and is only done as a manipulative tactic. The sooner your realize that the wiser you are in this situation.
Innocent or guilty you should never volunteer information without an attorney present. Not only is that your right but it is the basis of the US justice system: innocent until proven guilty.. Our system is designed in favor of a guilty person going free rather than an innocent person being convicted. The system also recognizes levels of guilt and innocences. Very little is black or white in our system.
As we have seen too many times, the criminal justice system in the US is flawed. So the old adage is applicable: Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Lightning Round The police enforce the laws. Do you think the judges are going to arrive at the scene of an active crime? When someone has your family at gunpoint who shows up? Court reporters?
Lightning Round The police are not supposed to be your “friend”. Their job is to enforce the law and put bad guys in jail on in the ground. If the judicial system is broken it’s broken in that too many criminals are set free.
@User name 1234 They can only detain someone for so long without adequate evidence. Apparently, they arrested him on suspicion and had no evidence, unless they can trick him.
Badd Newz I buy it once or twice but when you get into the “frequently” territory I’m gonna say you probably need to stop doing whatever you’re doing. You don’t get hauled in for questioning frequently unless you are doing bad things or are around the wrong people.
@Bosanac Pravi idk why did you need to comment that? Maybe because freedom of speech. Comment sections can have whatever comment you wanna type as long as your not violating YouTube's terms of service. Also if you don't like the comment just move on.
@Sascha Basch I just posted it in the odd chance somebody didn't catch the verbal interplay. Whether I get likes or not is just incidental, nothing more, nothing less.
Evox Nearly 400 people are glad you posted Evox- it's a shared laugh & one way to bring strangers who would otherwise not share even a moment together.
@Sascha Basch I'm unclear as to why I would need validation as it doesn't serve me in any particular way since I'm posting semi-anonymously anyway. To your claim of legitimate, it would seem news outlets quote things all the time so I don't see your point.
And last but not least, as to the originality of it, I don't care. Most ideas are a rehash of the past anyway. There might be some original physics or mathematics produced somewhere, but it doesn't carry much humor in it...
@Sascha Basch I was wondering when we were going to get to the ad hominem part of our conversation. And since you were the first to step in it, I'll let you wallow in it, since I find the smell offputting. Besides, stooping that low hurts my back...
@Pappa Flammy Boi just saying I appreciate your comment, Evox. No use in arguing with a brandead 14-year-old here. Why does the validity of youtube comments matter to these people, anyway? Imagine being so socially cut off that they think every person's actions is for imaginary internet points. have a like :)
@Sascha Basch because they feel that what they are finding funny is common with others. They are sharing the moment. It is like when you tell a story multiple times and it is still funny even though you know what happened.
@Sascha Basch i don't mind it people quoting what was said, i think of it as a reaction to the video. that's kinda why we look at the comment section right ? to see peoples opinions or reactions to the video.
@Adam Carlos its a way for people to connect with each other. Repeating something you heard in the video is how on the internet you say "this is what I liked about this video" and sometimes it makes you laugh because somebody else acknowledged what you also liked, its how we share a laugh together through youtube. Thats how that works and why.
@Adam Carlos I mean...we can both be right just from different angles, Its all down to how you choose to look at it. Im not as aggressively individualistic as I was in my 20s I just mellowed out and got more friendly about the public in general but thats just me.
@Pappa Flammy Boi good on you for defending yourself, I for one did catch that smooth boss interaction but reading it again gave me a good chuckle lol, liked. Dont pay any mind to the negative people theyre just taking out their frustrations on the internet.
@Sascha Basch To show others how much amusement he/she got from that particular segment. And the no, of likes shows the no of ppl agreeing to that emotion. It's a human nature to try and feel. And this is apparently one of the way. connect Understand?
Andromeda is Coming Guys its a rlly bad comment that lacks creativity amd humor and is undeserving of hundreds of likes 😂. The fact that yall are all defending this dude because i said rhat is honesty pretty funny and shows that you all have nothing better to do. The only reason im even replying is just to humor myself because this is honesty pretty sad
@Sascha Basch has it ever occured to you that youre just a 15 year old kid who hasnt been alive long enough to understand what matters most about life, its about connecting with people. I know you dont understand this but one day you will i promise.
@Sascha Basch don't worry about them, everyone is entitled to their own opinion just like you. i'm just surprised people are getting offended over a 15 year olds opinion over the Internet lmaooo
@Sascha Basch It appears to me that you guys are reading way too much information between the lines. It's a quote, it originated from the video, it was humorous, I shared it, some people liked it, end of story. It literally is that simple...
@Sascha Basch it's actually good for people who do not good at english like me, sometimes I can not hear clearly what people were saying in the video or when they use the vocabularies that I dont know, I would look for these kind of comments to discover the content in the video
@ijustgottasaythis because they knew he was a heroin addict and sugar helps tremendously when you're going through withdrawals to help take the edges off
i hioe jeff is corporate boss at cocacola he advertised it well enough there in my opinion
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"You've really handcuffed me here by asking for an attorney"
While the dude sits there in literal handcuffs lol. What an ironic choice of words. You've basically handcuffed this poor officer by asking for legal counsel, Jeff
"You have the right to remain silent...... ...do you understand your rights? -Remain in silence I think he understand his rights most than everybody in this channel 😂
“wham, bam, thank you for the coke, now put me back in the cell.” has been my favorite quote for so long and to hear it again is like music to my ears, legendary.
They kept a heroin addict in an interview room for almost 24 hours after he had asked for an attorney multiple times. Hopefully the whole thing got tossed.
Honestly this was the most disgusting part for more, at least twenty minutes in. I can’t believe that’s legal, and I suspect it isn’t. Especially given asking for the lawyer repeatedly. Intentionally putting someone into withdrawal that can be so agonizing that people regularly attempt suicide is horrific.
Tl;dr the stigma around addiction is disgusting and has directly lead to intentional terrible treatment of addicts, all perfectly exemplified in this video.
Idk how it is anywhere else, but anytime I’ve been to jail and was withdrawing from heroin, I had constant medical supervision. That’s one of the first things they ask you when you get arrested “are you going to be withdrawing from any drugs? Blah blah blah” Cops should never interrogate someone going through withdrawals cuz it causes a lot of false confessions because they just wanna get out of there as fast as possible. I don’t think it’s illegal for them to do that, but it’s just not morally correct in my opinion. They should have stopped questioning him and waited until he was physically able to.
@Nicole he kept his composure by releasing he had no other choice. for some this realization comes harder than others, just like addicts who still choose to fancy whatever their vice was and after withdrawling they choose to free themeselves from that vice, but that doesn’t mean you have to withdrawl. It’s trully crazy what the human brain can concieve
@amaniiexchnge It's not legal in any way shape or form. Once he asks for an attorney the questioning stops. That's what is a legal. They can keep him there But they had better be getting someone from the pd's office. They cannot keep him there and then keep going back in trying to get him to incriminate himself.
Kerim Gueney someone who goes in to peoples houses armed with a gun while ur family still there . To me they should not have any rights ...stop defending criminals
it is actually perfectly legal to keep them in the interview room, even when going through withdrawals. not necessarily humane, but enforcement uses exhaustion to their benefit. although it is definitely not legal to keep questioning him after he asks for counsel
@Jessica Murphy It is not legal to continue to try to question a suspect after that suspect has clearly exercised his right to counsel. They used the fact that he was an addict as a way to wear him down as to get him to incriminate himself. The request for council doesn't even have to be clearly stated, it simply has to be understood as such.
Why would he rule the world? o he knows to shut up. He knows how system/cops operate. Have you any idea how many times it was told to him to say nothing? At this point it's just common sense . and if anyone reading this thinks otherwise they are going be severely disappointed in the game of life.
@Brandon Smythe coffee is surprisingly psychoactive in large doses. As a kid i used to have the occasional coffee and it never had an effect so i always assumed the buzz was a myth. I was bored and hungover at work about a year ago and drank 2 monster energies and 4 coffees in the space of an hour and it was like a mild ecstasy/stimulant feeling. I must have chatted to 100 customers in that time and felt no awkwardness like I usually would. Maybe try it, please don't blame me if you have a heart attack.
@Jupiter Cyclops Yeah that's true many of the questions that police ask are misleading on purpose or there are people that want to collaborate with police because they are innocent, want to help, and end up incriminating themselves for something else. I think people in general put police on pedestal, or think that they are to going to help you because they are innocent. Police are humans and can be some of the sketchies people with authoratarian/antisocial personality traits.
@Vitamin.D.D.fishinsea Still you went from calling him "intelligent" to just "not as stupid". Just seems like an exaggeration. Don't get me wrong, I know what you mean. Poverty is a problem he created himself. Please understand that.
@Vitamin.D.D.fishinsea "They decided that reality simply wasn't for them". Well that was kind of what I said. It's not intelligent to just ask for a lawyer. Imagine how many of this comment section would. I feel like you are stombling across your own words. Maybe that's just me.
@Vitamin.D.D.fishinsea I think you have the horse and cart mixed up. Few middle class addicts escape jail or poverty. The constant is the heroin, not economic status.📈
I am a recovering heroin addict on methadone and been clean for 30 months. Addicts are the most ingenious people I’ve ever been around.
Cops are not good, and don’t care about justice they just want their arrest... they can’t make a “deal” and aren’t your friend. He should have dropped the second he asked for an attorney. The ADAs only care about their conviction rates.
All those doctors and pharmaceutical companies made endless money prescribing opioids then the second the DEA threatened them they cut everyone off at once. What’d they think would happen? The DEA doesn’t wanna solve the problem because they’d lose funding. Medicated assisted treatment is the best medically proven treatment for opioid addiction but they push AA which was created in the 30s. Imagine treating cancer and such the same as 100 years ago?
@charles morgan why dyou need suboxone or subutex for crack cocaine? Bupanorphine ie subutex/suboxone is a synthetic opiate with an actual opiate blocker in it so it stops withdrawal while blocking opiates!!! ie.. Heroin! Why on earth would you want or need it because of crack cocaine????? Sound to me someone just wants to feel important and involved in this conversation! Well we're all listening, anything else you want to say???
Our Souls Are energy and It's Eternal and That This Physical realm Is Literally HELL and The Only Way To get Out of This Matrix (This False Reality) Is To get right with Yourself Internally and Spiritually with God on a Spiritual and Conscious Level because If You Don't Get This Life Right YOU WILL COME BACK AND HAVE TO DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN! And It Will Be Way Harder Than when You Did this The First Time Around.
How do you truly escape Reincarnation? And not ever come back to this realm?? By Getting Right With Yourself and God On A Very Deep High Spiritual Consciousness Level (A Higher Power of Your Understanding). How do you go about doing this? By Learning To Get To Know The Real You through God and being Alone with yourself and God and be brutally honest with yourself. By Learning to love Yourself. By Really Praying and Meditating on a Daily basis. Educate Your Self To Real Knowledge and Have an Open Mind of Understanding and Get Rid of all Your Inner Hate,Demons all The Negative Energy With In Yourself Because in The End it all Comes Down To You and God! All that Really matters is the ones who truly love you and the people you try and help to wake up Spiritually and really try to get them to understand This truth which I am telling yall Right Now. The real reality is that this world is run by The Devil and The System (The Government) The People Who Really Control This Realm KNOW THIS TRUTH That run This Sick Insane Confused Backwards Society. That they Really are Devil Worshippers and Pedophiles and That THEY (The Government/The CIA The FBI The 1% Billionaires Who Really Control This World do Human Trafficking and drug tracking)
@*Wockhardt Who do you believe controlled things before the conception of Christianity's Devil worshippers? Something I've never understood is the grasp of power the light allows the dark in their perception of duality. 🤷🏻♂️
Daniel Lagano dropping straight facts 💯 I couldn’t agree more with your opinions/thoughts in this thread. I just wanted to show appreciation where it’s due 👌🏽
@The plural is actually "asparageese". Very true. I grew up in the mountains of GA and hung out with the supposed liars, thieves and shitheads. I was never lied to, stolen from or fucked over by any of them. Those on the "other side" of society however, have been in and out of jail, on drugs, lied to my face and have almost nothing to their name 12 years later.
@The plural is actually "asparageese". yes but you have to remember they're hooked on a drug that can cause anyone to throw their closest friends under the bus for a little bit of it
@Soulplexis Oh yeah totally, but that's the illness, not the person (I'm on a big kick rn of trying-out-basing-my-logic-on the idea "behavior does not equal identity"). And even with the addiction in full swing, I'd still rank People Who Say Things Like "Never Trust A Junkie" as being generally lower on the trustworthiness scale lol. There would certainly be exceptions but, being very broad/approximate, I'd find it hard to trust someone with those kinds of ethics about categorical distrust of other people (yes I'm aware of the irony lmao).
Also relevant, I think: In my mind "junkie" implies heroin, and speaking as someone who's been and remains close friends with a wide spectrum of tweakers, I'd trust nearly any heroin user over nearly any meth user, any day. Meth doesn't literally burn holes in one's brain, but it sure seems to do something over time to the people who do it, in terms of actually changing their personality and especially their empathy skills, when compared to other drugs (including after they go sober, when applicable ... at least this is what I've noticed in my mixed anecdotal and quasi formal exposure, anyway) ... whereas (also in my mixed non-authoritative exposure) although heroin can make people absolutely bonkers trying to get the next fix -- which, considering withdrawals can be fatal, I think is pretty understandable -- I've found that it doesn't seem to damage their sense of empathy and ability to care about relationships in the longer term. So that's part of my rationale for standing up for the people I most often hear "junkie" applied to.
... And I'd still trust any level of tweaker over "Never Trust A Junkie" people for most purposes/cases lol
Seriously, there are loads of other JCS 'inspired' channels out there but NONE of them match this level of skill in nuance and translation of the story, the characters and their motivations onto the screen. The original is the best I guess 😉
This guy isn't an anti hero, he's an addict who was victimized by the police. He is the hero, the cops who act friendly with him so they can hurt him are the villains. They always were cruel and sadistic, we just usually see them confronting a greater evil than themselves where here we see them abusing a man when he is at a low point in his life.
This is a tale of a wrongfully accused suspect outsmarting overzealous police, while withdrawing no less. The cop said to Jeff "Help us".. so, they wanted Jeff to help them put him away since they already said they "know" he did it..wow. I believe Jeff, and they obviously didn't have shit on him. I wish Jeff well.
For anyone finding themselves in this situation, watch Jeff and this is how you define yourself without a lawyer. And REMEMBER just because you ask for a LAWYER doesn’t mean your guilty of anything.
Thank you for your attempt at an elaborate explanation. Here's a simpler one: Jeff is just too cool for school, and therefore automatically wins at life.
No need for that but I always love a fan …if you truly feel this way hit me up on my channel it’s up in the description… my phone is broken right now so I can’t access the account but I’m working on getting back into it Jeff
I always been wondered what would happen if the suspect used to investigator techniques against them jeff handy cap is he can't lie to investigators to get them to slip
Yeah, I heard this man say he needs a lawyer, wth? Is the law in this state different? To anyone out there, if you get hauled in for questioning, innocent or not, get a damn public defender and just don't talk.
I love how they’re bribing him with a coke & a butterfingers bar and he still isn’t saying anything (while drinking his coke he finessed them out of) 😂😂😂
I thought that when you ask for a lawyer they need to stop with the interrogation right away. He sat 5 more hours and the officer tried to get more info 🤷♀️
I want to know why these cops are in trouble for breaking the law they completely violated this man's right how many times did he say he wanted a lawyer how many times did he remain silent when they gave him the option and yet they still harassed him for 12 hours
Is it really legal for a Cop to hound and hound and hound and hound a suspect -- after he / she already stated they do not want to talk without a lawyer. How is that right being served when he asked to excurcise that right to remain silent, and the Cop still begs and begs and begs and begs. I mean it's' ridiculous.
I was an addict and junkie for 10 years also and had alot of friends like Jeff along as similarities within myself. This is one of the best interviews ever.
Just minutes ago, Jeff live-streamed himself in a car possibly running from police. He ended the stream after he said his goodbyes, He is possibly dead.
Thought I'd write a short case study on this video. Please note that I am not qualified in this area in any way. I'm just a random guy giving his opinion. Don't take anything I say too seriously without fact-checking first. Here goes.
I don't believe that Jeff is guilty of armed robbery. Let's have a look at a few reasons why.
Jeff has control throughout the interrogation process. His body stance ranges from:
• Confident (spread legs, laid back)
• Defensive. He places one leg high above his other knee, with his foot pointed at the detective. This indicates a feeling of discomfort towards the person he is interacting with. Note: Some people claim that this is in fact the opposite. This position may also mean that the person Is competitive, dominant and relaxed. Either way, this position is not detrimental to Jeff as you will later see.
• Aggressive, he leans forwards towards the interrogator to close the distance between them at certain points.
Confidence can be faked but here's the thing. A lot of guilty suspects try to appear confident. They will do their best to look chill, composed, even bored. They think this shows they're not worried about anything, since they want you to believe they are innocent. The problem with that is that people who try to portray a false image of themselves, most often over compensate. This leads to the individual looking "unnatural" and gives the observer a feeling that something is not right. On top of that, their calm is very ill-suited to the situation that they're in. If you were accused of a crime you did not commit you'd be anything BUT calm and you'd be in strong denial the whole time. This is what Jeff does. He is confident, but not overly so. He looks genuine and actively denies the accusations while constantly challenging the detective's alleged evidence.
As for his defensive stance, it's natural since Jeff is a drug addict facing a policeman.
Notice at minute 6:34 when Jeff confronts the detective. His stance is no longer defensive. He is leaning forward, looking straight at the detective while presenting his defence. He speaks with determination, making the detective change his stance to an aggressive one (where he was leaning forward towards Jeff) to a strongly defensive one (laying back, one leg high above his knee). Jeff cuts off the detective multiple times and is in complete control of the situation, so much so that the detective ASKS "Let me read those rights for you, ok?". This could have been an attempt to break the tention and shut down Jeff's challenge.
Seeing how they're getting nowhere with the interrogation, the next detective attempts a bluff by telling Jeff they have incriminating evidence against him. This is meant to at least lower the suspects guard and confidence, if not to produce a confession outright. How do I know it's a bluff?
When policemen bluff, they will say something very unspecific such as "We already have evidence against you. We know you did it. The question is why?" or "There is video footage of you commiting the crime and eyewitness testimonies". At this point this could all be true but everything falls apart when the suspect confronts the policeman about it. Notice in this video when the detective bluffs, Jeff challenges his claims, causing the detective to be taken aback and struggle to give a response at one point.
Observe minute 10:41. The detective says "I got a lot of physical evidence" as he leans forwards towards Jeff to increase the pressure and impose authority. As soon as Jeff confidently replies "Like what?" the detective immediately leans back and stutters. At minute 10:53 the detective tries again by saying "There's only a couple of pieces of evidence I'm missing". He gave up control completely at this point. He basically admitted to not having enough evidence for a conviction, which puts Jeff in a very strong position. He calmly replies "Name them." [the 2 pieces of evidence]. Notice how in this sequence, the detective brings his knee up to his chest and "hugs it". Not sure what this means, but to me it looks like a highly defensive move. That man looks anything but confident.
He then attempts to BARGAIN with the suspect. "You give me a little bit, I give you a little bit. I give you one of my pieces of evidence, you give me a little something".
He ends up just refusing to show Jeff the "incriminating evidence" he has against him.
There are more details I could have gone into, but I've been writing for a while and I feel like you get the point :)
Jeff, and most people who stand up to this kind of interogation is considered an anti-hero because the cards are so stacked against him, the police can manipulate in many ways, including keeping you handcuffed in a small room for many hours, lying to you about what information they have, or lying to you about what they can do for you if you cooperate. Studies have shown that when police children are arrested they are taught not to cooperate - they know the game. Anyone who can keep his mouth shut is a hero in my book.
How do we not know what happened to Jeff? You even linked his patreon? Im really hoping for the guy, he's been through some shit, and still keeps it together through something like that
this guy is apparently doing fine, idk where it is, but someone found his YouTube channel and hed been uploading recently. just mundane stuff, nothing polished, nothing dark.
In some ways: be more like Jeff In some ways: don't be like Jeff I route for Jeff in this specific scenario COPS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS IN INTERROGATIONS
I was hooked on opiates for 6 years ..last 3 were on heroin. Its no joke. I'm lucky enough to have been able to have funded my addiction which was $200 every day. Never stole never committed any crimes. I was lucky enough to have family 320 miles away that I bailed out to and was able to quit cold turkey. I am blessed buy rest assured it was the hardest shit I've ever been through. I feel for anyone in this struggle and I'm here to talk if you need someone.
At 11:42 there's a cut. The original version of this video was several minutes longer and mentioned a gun that was found at Jeff's friend Aaron's house. Apparently this was edited and then reuploaded. I wonder if JCS was concerned that the algorithm didn't like videos that mention guns...
What!? You didn't just put Bad Santa as the Anti Hero. I can understand Travis Bickle naturally, but Deadpool is absolutely the quintessential anti hero lol.
I'm only into this 2 minutes, but the narrator says "Jeff already knows...". How can you comment in the operation of someone else's mind? Theoretically, if he's a hero in addict, maybe there are times when he hasn't processed the information told to him by the cops. Or maybe he doesn't understand the consequences of his behavior on heroine? Idk...maybe I'm just a school psychologist who watches too much Judge Judy! 😉
Thanks for the coke ... Oh I'm not talking to you. Wam bam thanks for the coke, put me back in the cell. 😂 if only he put his smarts to something useful
Not siding with the criminal or anything but the whole "you've probably heard this before" comment(when reading his rights) was kinda bullshit - even if he HAD heard it before
@Beautiful Roses he maintained decency and respect. Notice that he says thank you for the coke and throws his tissues in the bin after he blows his nose. He hasn't lost touch with basic deceny. It's the little things that give hope
@Christian Oyler also, just a slight addition, we have no evidence that Jeff ever committed an actual crime, besides using heroin which is a victimless crime and shouldn't even be a crime at all imo
CAPTAIN CAPLOCKS I’m a heroin addict / dependent on opioids daily for 6 years now and I would never rob a place to stay well so it has nothing to do with heroin, ur right. Drugs don’t kill people or commit robberies. Stupid people do. I’m so used to law enforcement and society spitting on us and calling us scum... I don’t doubt that Jeff is probably innocent... they’re just prejudice as fuck. It’s funny that people don’t even know or can tell that someone is using opioids. Most of us r functional. It’s like saying all alcoholics r drunks on the street. The war on drugs has to stop and big pharma has to take responsibility for a majority of the epidemic... I’m tired of ignorance. But we all know the USA takes forever to fucking get a clue and change.
@Meoo The same thing can be said for alcohol, so do you believe alcohol should be illegal as well?
Also I responded fast because I've been building my case for why drugs should be legal for a while and I haven't been able to find anyone to disagree with until now
@Meoo Oh sorry I didn't mean to I guess I'll just retype it from memory
"Drugs can be used responsibly, it's not like you snort a single atom of cocaine and you start bouncing around like a monkey, much like how a sip of alcohol doesn't make you black-out drunk. Also a thing I forgot to mention was, it's not illegal to do things that are bad for you, suicide/self-harm can be used as a metaphor for this, I obviously wouldnt recommend you do them, much like how you shouldn't do drugs, but you still are/should be allowed to"
@Meoo also, because making drugs illegal means we'll stop throwing non-violent, recreational drug users in prison with hardened criminals, that simple Pavlovian Conditioning obviously would lead them down a life of more serious crime, including harming others, which drug use doesn't do. Notwithstanding the fact that non-violent drug arrests also make you ineligible for many jobs and, in most cases, ruins your life, key word, non-violent
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Water is wet052020-09-23 00:16:13 (edited 2020-09-23 00:16:46 )
@Meoo I wouldn't recommend committing suicide or self-harming either, but do I think those acts should be illegal? No. If I don't condone something it doesn't mean it should be illegal, I wouldn't condone using alcohol as a crutch to deal with sadness, but do I think it should be illegal? No! Absolutely not! You can't just make things illegal because you don't like them, it comes down to whether or not the things being made illegal are directly harmful to others by the people perpetrating them, and drug use does not fit that description
@Meoo Yeah ofc, but by "harm" I don't mean necessarily physical harm, but ANY sort of harm, like financially or mentally (emotionally is a no tho because that can have many triggers unrelated to crimes), and drug use doesn't cause any of those, drug use has no direct ill effect on anyone besides the user, and that's the user's own personal choice
@Meoo So can alcohol, or over-the-counter medication, or just having schizophrenia, or just being born poor with no opportunities in life, drugs don't cause you to commit crime, perhaps it can exacerbate it, but multiple studies have shown that drug use doesn't inherently cause criminality, all the examples listed above are the same as drugs in that regard
@Meoo Then that would seemingly beg the question, why isn't alcohol illegal? By your very own logic, drugs and alcohol should be either both legal or both illegal, which one would you prefer?
@Meoo You "think" alcohol is less addictive? No, it's not, drugs and alcohol are equally addictive, alcohol is literally a drug in itself (see Foundation for a Drug-Free-World and the Orlando Recovery Center for sources on that), the only reason alcohol is legal is because it has been widely consumed for millenniums, whereas drugs are a phenomenon of recent centuries, if alcohol is legal, and alcohol is a drug, then drugs should be legal as well
We have a neighbour that has an addiction and you can tell other people steer clear of him because of how he looks and we live in a family orientated neighbourhood so he sticks out but he’s always been nice and polite to us. It’s one of those “if it wasn’t for the addiction... “ things
He simply refused to answer those questions because he knew they could be used against him. From this to saying is the most naturally intelligent person you've ever seen is a big stretch
@Rafael Gonzalez you can't compare being accused of murder without having any experience with the criminal system and being accused of robbing after you already were arrested before and know how all these things work
@GUCCIpotato being addicted to heroine doesn't mean you are a zombie 24/7. But yeah I guess we have different opinions and that's it, but I don't think he was incredible
@Rafael Gonzalez I was talking about the "other people" you saw in this channel. But look, I have no intention to start an argument with someone who wants to say getting away with murder is the same as getting away with robbery. You are perfectly able to understand why it doesn't make sense by yourself and I don't have to explain it to you, and this will only turn into a pointless discussion that leads to nowhere. That's why, whatever you will say next, I won't answer you anymore. Have a good day
He handled it incredibly well because he’s a heroin addict in a country where drug users are treated like criminals. He’s probably been in hundreds of these interviews and picked up a few things, not natural intelligence
I think the reason people attach to an anti hero is when an anti-hero has a palpable sense of humor. Jeff's situation is hilarious in the way he reacts to everything, which makes people like him off the bat.
Yes he also had a very comical way of defying the cops. When they try to coax something out off him, he immediately calls their bluff and tells them to their face what their real objective is. It’s funny and at the same time pretty tragic that he know these techniques so well.
@13:12 oh i love his smart ass answers! and he doesn't antagonize or try to cause trouble. any trouble he is experiencing is the waste of time these officers are spending using their 1001 techniques book.
It is remarkable that this guy, who is probably going through withdraw, is able to have a coherent conversation with detectives multiple times. It's astonishing that any evidence obtained through these interviews with this man would be admissible in a court of law. He isn't fit. He asked for a lawyer.
They tried to use statements i made while i was high against me one time on a robbery charge... i was soooo gone off of xanax, and i was dope sick at the same time, and the cops came up with this crazy scenario to get a response out of me, and without thinking i said"hell nah i didnt do nothing like that, i just said i had a knife i never pulled it out" and baam, I claimed coercion. One charge was dropped the other dropped down to misdeamonr theft. IDK if it was because of that, but i ended up doing about 6 months for 2 robbery charges.. needless to say i have changed my frickin life around.
No, but he's a street smart dope fiend. I'm in recovery so I've been there. It is bullshit they kept him in there for so many hours after asking for a lawyer. A tactic to get him talking but he knows it's b.s. even while starting to go through withdrawals which I can tell you from experience is the worst...soon enough he'll be puking all over the detective and shitting his pants.
EXACTLY!! I am a person that was never in trouble my whole life...but some people I was around got me in a bad situation, and I shouldn't have allowed it. Being "green" to how this all works & the unfortunate other instance similar after--(plus few domestic violence sit w my ex he got off every time) I read the police reports I swear they were involved in a completely different case--or they were on drugs when recounting what I had said etc. Always had some very wrong info in the accounts that had it not been so serious it would have been laughable.
Later, I saw different lawyers on yt BEG people to say they will cooperate fully AFTER meeting w their attorney.
The police even as nice as pie get things mixed up, wrong, or it will be turned around on you so fast!
I learned my lesson the hard way having never had to deal with it till my late 40's. *Please get a lawyer before saying anything..be polite & cooperate after speaking w attorney!!
I may be the first person that ever used the right to remain silent after being read my rights. It was 1966 and I was in 5he Army. The company commander was going to punish me for being away from the motor pool and read me my rights. He then asked me a question and I somehow had the sense to invoke my rights. End of conversation. I’m simply amazed how many idiots talk their way into a cell.
True. I have experienced it today. Traffic stop and they are nutritious at flipping the situation against you. Pretending to your friend until they get you to confess and then reality hits fines 2 points 👎 Lesson learned shut the f up! You are your own enemy. In my case $200 fine and points. ☹
i made the mistake of talking to the police and waiving my right to remain silent and told them the whole story. only spent a week in juvie and got out w/o a charge so I'm a lucky case. But growing up my uncle had always told me to always ask for a lawyer before answering questions. Should've listened. But I'm lucky i had a fantastic attorney appointed to me. Could've ruined my chances to join the Army and I'm glad it didn't.
This entire interview would be thrown out in court if this guy could afford a legit lawyer. He asked for a lawyer. That should have been the end of it. Everything said after that should be thrown out. Guilty or not, there are rules. And the cops are breaking them.
Dude... it’s called “statements outside of Miranda”. These statements can be used to impeach past, future testimony or to buttress direct evidence. C’mon, Player
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Matt Phillips2020-08-08 11:44:01 (edited 2020-08-08 11:47:17 )
@Jake Clark Looks to me like they left him in the interview room for what looked like hours. Long after he asked for a lawyer. Picture that in front of a jury. The cops exploited his addiction and let him start going through withdrawals in order to make him as uncomfortable as possible so he would make spontaneous statements that would restart the conversation. He said he wanted to go back to his cell and not talk to the cops within a minute or so of the first cop arriving. They just sweated him out. It worked. That doesn't mean it's right.
In case you’re ever in a situation like this you have to say: I invoke my right to remain silent/get an attorney. It’s key to do that, because in some cases when a suspect simply said nothing it was taken as evidence in front of the court. The police can twist and turn your statements and say that you didn’t make a clear indication that you were invoking your rights.
The problem is most people, while having thr right to remain silent, lack the ability. Cops know this and use it. If I am ever questioned by the police for anything outside of maybe a traffic stop, the only thing I will say is I want a lawyer. They will certainly use one. They will record everything you say. Get a lawyer and shut up.
i feel like both those end results are too ridiculous to be true. he probably just went back to his life as an addict, obviously wasn't charged with a crime here because theres no way he would've made bail (meaning he was absolutely right that they didn't have shit on him whatsoever), and hopefully stayed far fucking away from any pigs trying to do this to him again. i feel like he's out there doing okay, one addict to another, gettin high and gettin by.
Jeff, the smartest interviewee EVER to be questioned by authorities. He is forever imbedded in my consciousness in how to act under questioning. I’ve watched this three times and laughed more each time!
@al30 7Antony Actually sugar is far worse than heroin, it's the junk they put in heroin that can be bad. Sugar is the most addictive substance on Earth and we are all hooked, line and sinker. Last I checked heart disease and obesity kill millions a year in the U.S. while opiate overdoes are in the thousands.
@Alina Tokaeva Everybody is addicted to sugar, how can you say it's less addiciting than heroin? Hardly anyone takes heroin. And those that take Heroin also take sugar.
@Local Milk They give newborns sugar laden pacifiers in the OR to calm them down, hooked from the moment they enter the world. Sugar is actually an opiate analgesic, affecting dopamine receptors aka a painkiller. Sugar also reduces withdrawal symptoms.
Electronic while i do i agree sugar is as addictive as actual white coke , what choice do we have to leave it , its in everything we eat even fruits make sugar since we modified so much . Our whole society are sugar junkies but i doubt we can leave it since we were introduced since birth to it , if we stop eating sugar our bodies would probably shut down and kill us like some drug withdrawls. Even medical science has integrated the belief that having too low sugar is bad and not at all withdrawal symptoms . Anyways my point being is we are lost at this point .
@Electronic that's bs, it depends on the substance. heroin, on one hand, is a physically addictive drug. if you stopped consuming sugar, your body will naturally flush the sugar out of your system. if you stopped consuming heroin without a methodone or suboxone, your body would literally shut down internally and let the immune system take over and try to flush the bad out as much as it can. that's why people puke so much during detox. your body after using heroin literally craves it like water after an exercise. and also, don't talk about peoples addictions and how there are "barely any opioid deaths" when the us is literally in it's worst state for opioids since the introduction of synthetic opioids. well, I think I won this one ;)
@FricknScoob_ In all seriousness, I think you're right for the most part. However, my comment was more about how so many ppl got really worked up about sugar and missed the initial 'play on words' joke that was made.
I think it’s wrong to even try to get a confession from someone who is going through withdrawals... that’s almost akin as getting a ‘forced confession’. If this is the way police deals with these situations.. that’s just very wrong, give them the methadon so they can think clearly. Any -other way I don’t see how anything a person says under these conditions, could be taken to court? Or a ‘written confession” under these circumstances. Why do you think people often turn to criminality, ... to get their drugs as they are in cycle. Would they normally do this? Addiction robs people of morality, and or making the right decisions. They would do anything and yes the withdrawal is horrible and lasts for weeks. I don’t know if it’s legal, but it should be inadmissible, evidence the police got from people either under influence or in withdrawal.
@Dank Vibes there are children born with parents that are addicted to drugs, and then the kid is addicted and can't live without it and has withdraws at birth everyone just needs to do a little more research because regardless of what it is addiction works the same. It trains your body to need it, and not be able to go without it. That's why withdraws exist.
@Ziyania Monroe I know man, I knew people wouldn't be able to handle this, there are multiple studies that back up what I've said regarding artificial sugar. And yeah, I've read the boring scientific papers, I'm not the hero of this story. Just an annoying messenger telling people they're wrong, I don't really care if they believe otherwise. Ignorance is bliss.
@Ziyania Monroe first off, I was born into an addictive family so I'm about 110% sure I know what I'm talking about when it comes to drugs and the bad side behind them. second off, if you took the sugar out of your diet, it is way less harmful for your body then if you've been on heroin half your life then quit. if a man was 330lb, had nothing but absolute dogshit in their diet and had never eaten healthy their whole life, they could still make a complete change in their lives and lose all of the weight and lower their blood pressure and cholesterol with determination and effort. with heroin, if you had been addicted for a multitude of yrs, you won't just be able to stop at the drop of a pen. yes sugar has withdrawals but unless you've been a heroin addict and have been through the withdrawals you have no place to speak
@FricknScoob_ first off was I speaking to you? Did I tag you? Exactly. So ur comment to me is super irrelevant. U can keep commenting back but u won't get much from me cuz I wasn't directly speaking to you in the first place❤
@Electronic Tbh, I don't wanna keep this going because it's a waste of time. But, I feel like I have to as well. First off, when have you cited any source at all or provided any link or data? And please tell me when you put me in my place when I shut down your entire argument earlier with direct fact? And it is extremely obvious, after how oblivious you are to the actual extent of heroin use and the fact that it affects a person directly a lot worse than sugar can in a shorter amount of time. Does sugar constipate a person for WEEKS and does feces build up until you literally explode from the inside? No, but heroin does. I think I'm done here ;)
@FricknScoob_ Millions die from obesity every year, sugar is the biggest contributing factor by far because heart disease, sugar AND obesity are all interlinked. Opioid deaths are in the thousands vs millions, again thousands vs millions, need I say it again? It's a silent killer, kills you from the inside out with little warning, sure it takes time for the sugar to make its mark but it is merciless in the damage it does. These studies are widely available, there are Youtube videos about it, sure okay, maybe not a direct comparison between opiates and sugar but how overlooked artificial sugars are in society, is criminal. And the fact that every heroin addict is also a sugar addict proves my case about which is more endemic of the two. And for the record, I am closely linked with addicts in my life, I won't admit to anything but I know more than you would hope for me to admit. Take it easy and don't assume anything about anybody, fair warning. Cheers.
@Electronic you know what? as much as I hate to admit I'm wrong, I am. I just was defending that because of personal reasons that I'm not going to say, as you didn't. have a good one man
This is something that is always misunderstood. Saying something like, "I need a lawyer," or, "I want a lawyer" is not a specific enough assertion of rights and is a loophole that officers often use to prevent suspects from getting access to a lawyer. You must say, "I am asserting my right to an attorney, and I am asserting my right to remain silent" for officers to be constitutionally bound to provide you with one.
A L you're wrong dude. And the fact that he didn't sign the paper saying that he understood his rights so nothing that he even said would have been up holdable in court regardless in the fact that he did say I need a lawyer I want a lawyer suspects are not attorneys nor do he need speak in a attorney languages to articulate that he needs a lawyer he said it more than three times that's why they sent a different Detective in there when he asked for I another soda but he played the s*** out of them and they violated his rights which was mainly probably the cause for his release in all of that video evidence is the other reason why his case probably will get thrown out thanks to the stupid overzealous uneducated tyrants their job is to make the arrest collect the evidence presented to the district attorney and prosecutor and let the system work it's self but no 9 out of 10 times these cops have to do what you're not supposed to do and be judge jury and executioner well after they are part of the process is done I hope Jeff found some help got his self-clean I end it with this they had him around a firearm that was similar to the firearm that was used in a robbery so apparently the store clerk was not willing to testify which also means there's no camera and that store or on any door or house from the store to Jeff's friends house but they still do have a gun with no fingerprints on it so now they really don't have anything but a stolen gun off the streets probably they had so much evidence Jeff would have never got that first can of Coke or II or that Butterfinger good night if you don't talk to Cops you don't go to jail.
@A L You are asserting stuff equivalent to how "sovereign citizens" behave. Acting as if a few buzzwords will protect you legally. That isn't how the world works. There is no magic words doctrine with requesting a lawyer. Cops are not lawyers trying to extrapolate loop holes. They are there to get you to keep talking. The more you talk the more likely you are to a) incriminate yourself of the crime you were detained/arrested for, b) perjure yourself, or c) admit to a crime you were not previously arrested/detained for.
Simply request a lawyer and shut up. That's all that is required of you. You don't have to do it with a specific word order or as a key phrase. Just shut up. If you say nothing then they have to gasp rely on the evidence in order to convict you.
A L I’ve been interrogated before, it doesn’t fucking matter how you say it. If you tell them you want a lawyer you get a lawyer. If Jeff even gave a fuck he would’ve said it more than one time. And also if you say you want a lawyer and stop talking what are they gonna do? Sit there and stare at you? No, they’re gonna get you a lawyer so they have more of a chance to get evidence out of you rather than you sitting there silent. They’d be hoping your lawyer fucks up and you say something stupid. TLDR: It doesn’t matter how you say it.
@A L please dont go spreading wrong infos about anything, people like you makes me not believe most of the things i see on internet that i dont know of.
Once he asks for a lawyer, anything that is said after that point becomes inadmissible in court. That is why the cop said “you have hand cuffed me”. Obviously, they don’t have a hundreds of defense lawyers sitting at the police department waiting for someone to request a lawyer. So they just send him back to his cell until Jeff decides to speak with the detective. Maybe he got on the phone with a lawyer, in which case that lawyer would just tell him to stay quiet no matter what happens. Jeff is the one who decided to talk to detectives, they didn’t force him to.
A L You’re conflating Salinas v. Texas’ finding in which the Court ruled that one must expressly invoke one’s Fifth Amendment right to remain silent with the Sixth Amendment’s right to legal counsel. “I want my lawyer” is plenty. The police OUGHT to immediately stop questioning him at that point. But that would require ethics and lawful conduct. Attorney and law professor James Duane of the U. of Va. covers this subject matter expertly on YouTube in a two-part video series entitled “Don’t Talk to the Police,” and in his related book “You Have the Right to Remain Innocent.” IANAL; this is not legal advice.
@bobby sanders Your use of punctuation is about as good their detective work. What- you like to use every key on the keyboard except for the comma and period? Your comment is inadmissible 😂😂😂
Is Jeff really a Legend? Is the guy commentating really even a decent psychoanalyst? Is @A L a professional clown? Is @bobby sanders a grammar teacher? I mean c'mon guys- wtf are we even doing here? 😂😂😂
I think the lesson is to never ever talk to cops about something you're accused of. So just repeat: "I wish to exercise my right to remain silent." or "I do not recall.".
lol, you can't just pretend you're suddenly deaf and mute. That could be considered obstruction. You still have to respond to the police, but you can legally respond with, "No comment," or "Get me a lawyer." I would recommend saying both repeatedly until you actually talk to a lawyer.
@Megan Smith You can't pretend you're deaf and mute, but once they tell you that you have the right to remain silent, you tell them you want a lawyer and from that point on, you can pretend you're a table for all it matters. Matter of fact, I recommend anyone do this as cops and prosecutors tend to cut corners when it comes to things like this. The results of such lackadaisical attitude is deprivation of civil liberties on a gross scale.
@Megan Smith remaining silent under questioning is a fundamental right. it is NOT obstruction. thats the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. a cop might arrest you for "obstruction" if you refuse to answer questions, but that would be a wrongful arrest. cops act outside the law like this all the time.
Things should’ve stopped once he requested a lawyer several times. Regardless of his innocence or guilt, he should be given counsel if he requested it. This is a shame.
Nope. That just shows a criminal can be professional and 'think' they know their rights :) Thankfully, criminals also have distorted egos and self importance issues. Which really gives police a great 'in' to work with. The funniest is when criminals watch videos (like this) and think they can learn anything ..other than how to entrap themselves with a good interviewer :)
@that respectablehuman and judging by the sounds of crumpling tin foil coming from your comment, I assume I have found a delusional paranoid on YT. Curiouser and curiouser ..
He asked for council but council wouldn't be available untile the next day most likely. Every time he asked for a lawyer he was taken back to his cell and was only brought back in for questioning when he asked for it.
@ZarMiningInc Everytime he asked he was taken back to his cell. He was only brought back for questioning when he asked to be brought back. There's alot of ignorance in this comment thread. That cop knows he's on film and knows that if he breaks procedure his case is gone. That's why he read him his rights every time they talked.
@catsandporn he never called this guy a criminal. He mentioned the behavior of some criminals. But never labeled this guy one. Everyone here is so quick to jump to conclusions.
@Patrick Higgins if he served his time, he is no longer a criminal. That is the issue...A suspect is not a criminal, we are presumed innocent for a reason... We have rights for a reason... Letting police and gov fk with our rights is not correct in any way shape or form.
The subtle manipulation of portions of the population to call their fellow citizens criminals randomly when they haven't been convicted... that's scandalous...
we should want to help this man. So our taxes stop going to the police in handling these cases... we should want him in detox.. not a prison... America has high recidivism for a reason when other advanced nations do not. We need to learn and copy them... Cops lie, steal, cheat, and harass American citizens far to much.
Btw, we all have committed criminal acts just we haven't been caught. Stop letting our rights get trampled on. We should really want people like this man to get help. Not be put in jail.. he needs to be shown a future so he stops doing drugs... not being fkd with by a cop when high who is trying to force him into giving a false confession...
Patrick Star Pull the wool from your eyes and do YOUR OWN research..you’ll be surprised how much and how quickly you find proof if you just LOOK for it 🤦🏾♂️
@johnny bird Buddy, he has previous convictions, it is even talked about in the video. He may not be a mafia don or a drug lord, but he is a junkie with previous convictions. I think calling him a criminal works.
@Not My Tempo This is called being too smart by a half. What if you are innocent, and a simply explanation can prove that and get you released, instead of possibly held for days, if not convicted?
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Not My Tempo2021-08-11 15:13:24 (edited 2021-08-11 15:13:39 )
@J D then you can sue them for wrongfully holding you
@Not My Tempo I am a lawyer. And law professor. My point is all rules have exceptions. And there is often a big difference between what an innocent person and a guilty person should do during police encounters. An innocent person arrested for robbery should generally explain his alibi rather than just sit in jail for days if not weeks. This is legal education, not legal advice.
Nothing he said after I want a lawyer is admissible right.... Yeah never talk to cops. Say nothing, say get my lawyer and be done unless you have proof you were elsewhere or whatever. But, I'd still get a lawyer first before speaking about it.
@Skellie X not every attorney good attorney. Yet any better than none. Think about it this way - if you find yourself in sticky situation, you no way have enough experience to figure if this is one of those rare exceptions. You will think that you be fine by speaking to police, but in fact, everything you tell them will be used against you.
Will Bennett2021-08-17 07:07:14 (edited 2021-08-17 07:12:54 )
@J D This is ridiculous advice. As a lawyer you should know how many innocent people go to jail specifically because they perceived the police as good faith actors when 9 times out of 10 that couldn't be further than the truth. Only in crime dramas do police prioritize the truth. In reality their only priority is getting a conviction, and they will do everything within their power to attain that.
If you're innocent of a crime you're being accused of, ask for a lawyer. And if you're guilty of a crime you're accused of DEFINITELY ask for a lawyer.
As a black man in Alabama, I have a slew of stories about police being bad faith actors who give a rat's ass if you're innocent, starting from when I was as young as 13. I was accused of a crime I didn't commit when I was 23 and neglected to ask for a lawyer, foolishly believing the police had any interest in the truth. Luckily the truth exonerated me but not before the police took it upon themselves to punish me just for NOT being guilty and allowing them to get their precious conviction, and only after they tried to fabricate evidence against me (a phenomenon I've also experienced more than once). In the end they made up a phony story that I was loitering just to charge me with something--an accusation that also wasn't true btw. The only reason I've never been convicted of anything is because of incompetence on the part of the cops who tried to frame me, but certainly not for lack of their trying.
Also, a false confession is as good as a real one to a cop. They get their conviction either way. And they have plenty of tools at their disposal to coerce you into confessing to a crime you didn't commit and are more than willing to use them on naive innocent people who don't know any better.
@Will Bennett Proof that you have zero reading comprehension, I made it clear that I was not giving advice. But there are circumstances where speaking to the police is in a person's interest. If you think all cops are evil and want to frame you for crimes you didn't commit, that sounds like a personal problem.
@Da Medusa Says the non-lawyer. All rules have exceptions. What if a young relative of yours was kidnapped and the police call you in for questioning. Do you remain silent, looking guilty as hell, so they waste valuable time looking into you instead of finding your relative and the real bad guy?
I once knew a guy who had just graduated from high school, a former football player. He used to sneak into the high school weight room to work out, and his former coach knew it and was OK with it. One night he sneaks in to workout, and sets off a newly-installed burglar alarm. Police come, and he, thinking he is so clever, says "I'll just remain silent." Instead of telling the cops that he had permission to use the weight room, now he's a collar for trespassing. He was afraid to call in the coach later to testify because he was hoping to be coach someday. But of course that is ruined with a misdemeanor trespassing at a school conviction on his record!
General rule is don't talk to police. But there are numerous exceptions. The law is based on fact patterns, so general blanket rules are troublesome.
@J D you’re not fooling anyone. You’re not a lawyer or law professor. Just because you call yourself “J D” for Juris Doctor doesn’t make you a lawyer or law professor. No real law professor would waste their time “educating” people on situations and exceptions the way you are doing so. You’ve been picked apart by a few real law experts.
You also claim to be a defense attorney telling people to talk to the cops if it benefits you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@J D Actually I'm a law professor at Harvard and Yale, was AG of the United States for 10 years and I say you're wrong. Why do you feel the need to lie about your qualifications to strangers on the internet?
@Will Bennett Watts v Indiana: "any lawyer worth his salt will tell the suspect in no uncertain terms to make no statement to police under any circumstances",
Ohio v Reiner: “emphasized that one of the Fifth Amendment’s basic functions is to protect innocent men who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances.”,
Quinn v Warren: right to remain silent is "a safeguard against heedless, unfounded, or tyrannical prosecutions".
Insane that a supposed law professor doesn't know basic first year constitutional law. It's almost like he's a lying sophist with insane misconceptions about the legal system.
@J D "you're a plumber" lmao what is this projection. Bro, seriously, post some credentials. If you're a professor, prove it. Of course, you aren't, so you won't.
I won't engage your examples because you're a sophist not arguing in good faith, and your trespassing example especially shows a complete lack of understanding of the criminal justice process. I would suggest you watch the Regent University School of Law talk entitled "Don't talk to the Police". It's fantastic and may help with some of your misconceptions.
Furthermore I'd like to recommend that you stop lying about credentials on the internet. It's okay to be uninformed and have an opinion on something but hiding behind a fake legal career is absurd and doesn't make you seem any smarter to anyone. Nor does accusing people of being unintelligent plumbers (many of whom, by the way, are small business owners and far more successful and capable than most).
Imagine checking out the Youtube comments and seeing your attorney in there having juvenile arguments with strangers and shitting all over the working class...
@Bill bruh caffeine is a stimulant of fucking course he’s still gonna withdrawal but damn let the man get some sort of comforting feeling from the sugar
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Só Léo2021-05-28 20:48:59 (edited 2021-05-28 20:49:56 )
@Bill Sugar helps. Also he asked for medication at the start and they refused to provide it.
@Só Léo And then Jeff, somehow unaware of how to exercise his rights, started to answer questions. You may not want to blame Jeff for the fact that he is a heroin addict, but it is a fact and that's the reality of the situation.
@Nate Tooke He started to answer questions because the cops wouldn't give him a way to deal with withdrawal otherwise. Not sure what else you wanted him to do.
@Derp Derps some of the smartest people on Earth are/were junkies. Granted, they don't live very long and I understand the knee jerk response of "well how smart can you be if make the choice to start using heroin?" That's a good question. And it's a question that William Burroughs, Miles Davis, Florence Nightingale, Charles Dickens, Charlie Parker, Howard Hughes, Marcus Aurelius, and Will Wilberforce (just to name a few) may have had an answer to. Not to mention the thousands of doctors/surgeons who live (or lived) their entire adult lives as closet opiate junkies.
@Derp Derps The word junkie is a society word to put people down it legitimate addiction problems. You really have to look at the person and not see a junkie but a person with problems.
@outlaw71 I just reviewed. Give me the time mark he admitted to robbery. A junkie admitting he's been through the system isn't an admission of guilt anymore than the fact pig cops lie to generate revenue and destroy lives.
Miles Gentry if only people knew what 'sick' feels like. Everyone who treats dopesick people badly need to feel it for a while. They'd emphathise a LOT more then. By the way, the dean of a certain major university was on oxy's for years, he successfuly withdrew one year ago, but you d never have imagined it. So no you don't have to be this street thief charaxter or bad person even to get caught up w painkillers
He said he would talk to them for a second time if they got him a coke or butterfingers. Lol they got him the coke but he still didn't talk. Totally legal,
@wanny fairy it was kinda dangerous. He was pretty close to giving them a time. But he fought the urge. It sucks we as a speacies wanna please so many people. To a fault.
Or it was an act on his part, which only makes him cooler.
@1onefix1 Projecting much? No mention of white people here mate. There's psychology, addiction and repercussions on the menu, you might as well take your conspiracies and MAGA hat to another diner
@velyan12 People who project tend to be less perceptive. And secure. The topic of psychology is either foreign or anathema to individuals such as 1onefix1. To try and make life and reality more simple is not inherently wrong. As long as you are aware of what is actually real.
@Mikaela Renè No, when he asks for a lawyer they cannot continue questioning him "until council is present". However, there isn't a time limit for how long it can take to get a lawyer there.
@1onefix1 HEY GUYS BEING CONCERNED FOR YOUR RIGHTS AROUND POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE KNOWN TO ABUSE RIGHTS AND TRY TO BUILD CASES AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE IS VIRTUE SIGNALLING!!! MY BRAIN IS SO BIIIIIG!!!!!!
@Dragan L Yes, except he told them he was willing to speak to them again (he happened to admit doing it for a coke), and if you notice they read him his rights a second time, so in that case...it's legal. Now, if they didn't read him his rights again...
Y'all. They have a 1st Ammendment right to ask him anything. What is this Hollywood bullshit about 'oh he asked for a lawyer now I can't talk to him' I keep hearing about? God damn.
@Amehdion according the legal precedent set by Miranda vs. Arizona, when a suspect invokes their right to counsel all interrogation and questioning must immediately cease until counsel is present. However, if a suspect has been properly mirandized, they can waive those rights, including right to counsel, by voluntarily initiating conversation and showing an intended desire to discuss the crime.
Invoking the right to remain silent works differently in that a suspect can still be questioned, without counsel present, at a later date or after a certain amount of time has passed, providing they are again read their Miranda rights.
Whether any of the aforementioned was violated in this particular interrogation, I can't say for sure. It looked to me that in the beginning of the video the suspect simply invoked his 5th amendment right, i.e. "I don't talk to you motherf**kers". Which, as previously stated, in that situation the officers are legally permitted to question him at later time after again reading him his rights; which they did. It was only later in the video that I explicitly heard him request legal counsel, and in that case the interrogation is legally obligated to cease until his attorney is present.
@Amehdion Miranda Rights The police must immediately stop probing if the detainee invokes either the right to remain silent or the right to counsel. If the suspect invokes the latter, questioning must cease until counsel is available. But if the detainee invokes only the right to remain silent, the police may reinitiate questioning at a later time, provided that they honor the right to remain silent. What it means to “honor” the right to remain silent after a suspect invokes it isn't always entirely clear. Courts consider the circumstances of renewed questioning, including the passage of time, whether the police gave fresh Miranda warnings, and whether they asked questions about a different crime.
Amehdion I see people’s confession being throw out because the word “lawyer”, it is illegal to obtain a confession after them asked for a lawyer. I watched to many interrogations to know their confession will be out of a trial and the DA going crazy about it.
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Robert Laube2020-07-01 17:11:45 (edited 2020-07-01 17:12:34 )
@Amehdion its called google, do your own homework or ask mommy. What are you 12, ever hear of miranda.
Fifth Amendment wasn't exercised. You need to tell them "I am exercising my right to silence and want/requesting/exercising my right to an attourney/lawyer". And then you SHUT UP. DO NOT TALK. Don't ask for water, don't respond to requests, don't talk at all. Just sit there, silent, and wait. Anything else can be argued in court against you and your right to silence. Jeff didn't do that. It was legal.
Mikaela Renè Know what you are talking about before you speak!!! No they are not. Legally the very second he says he wants an attorney the interview HAS to be ended and no further questions can be asked and if they continue to ask and he answers any of them? Absolutely inadmissible!!!
Americans talking about laws and rights in 2020. If you are white, you have no rights. Corporatist Hellhole. "Muh Freedoms" People get more jail for buying drugs from themselves, than people who bankrupt others and literally cause some people to suicide because of their financial speculation, errors etc... America, where the freedom fighters on the streets share the opinions and views of Coke and McDonalds. China sounds great right about now, hell North Korea is sounding better every day.
@princesstamika well the issue, in my opinion, is that it's not solely a racial issue, and framing it as such in the manner that the BLM movement has, including talking about out-right removing police forces, only serves to derail from a serious conversation that needs to be had about police brutality in general (far more white men are actually killed by police than black men, and there are many instances where black cops are perpetrators, so it affects everyone) and measures that need to be taken to prevent it. Measures such as addressing poverty and community policing, gun ownership, stop and frisk, and an overhaul in training and base requirements. The latter, by the way, would require more funding, not less, and would also cause outrage at the fact that certain requirements might exclude many women from certain police work; a women such as myself whose 100lbs soaking wet necessitates the use of a force multiplier in order to adequately detain and assert control over a much larger and stronger perpetrator, which is the very thing we're trying to prevent.
Now, I'm not saying that the killing of unarmed black men shouldn't be something that the black community specifically focuses on, much as I see no problem with feminists focusing on reproductive rights/health, sexual assault and the position of women in third world nations (issues that specifically impact women), I'm saying that to demand that the sole focus be about race, in terms of a national discourse, is incredibly myopic and not actually solving anything.
@iraqi garfield What are you on about? They are absolutely right. They should’ve stopped trying to fish and interrogate him when he asked for his lawyer.
Asking honestly because I don't know - from what I understand, if he asks for a lawyer they have to stop that initial interrogation until he speaks to counsel. But once he's spoken to counsel they can continue to ask him questions, and of course he still has the right to remain silent. Counsel should advise him to only answer yes or no or I don't know or I don't remember, or even better just plead the 5th. Is that not right? Are we saying that once someone asks for a lawyer, the police can't speak to them any further?
@Amber McDonald I am pretty sure the police have the right to question them after they talk to counsel and if counsel is present. Cops cannot continue to interrogate someone after they have invoked their right to counsel. I am not sure what the consequences of continuing are, or what strictly qualifies as continuing. (Like I am not sure if trying to convince someone to respond to questions with declarative statements is the same thing as continuing to ask questions, but considering that they are supposed to re-inform you of your Miranda rights if you start a conversation with them, this seems unlikely.) But it does seem pretty likely that violating this guys rights would be really bad for the case against him.
Regardless, once the right is invoked, all further questioning should be done with their defense attorney present.
It's crazy how much time passed between interviews where he invokes his right to an attorney and the following interviews. My buddy had a court appointed attorney provided after 2hrs for a traffic stop... At 9pm on a Sunday
@iraqi garfield You people will literally take any opportunity to boot lick to the police, and personally, I don’t even think it’s because you love authority or whatever, you just will say ANYTHING to “own the libs” just my take on your disability.
Yep! Soon as he said I want a lawyer they should have said ok and took him to his cell. They continued to bother him they know he’s starting to go through withdrawal. I hope anything is thrown out because he clearly was continued to be interviewed after he said he wants a lawyer !
@Amber McDonald It’s a great question. The Supreme Court has made it clear that a person in Jeff’s position has to clearly and definitively assert their desire to seek counsel and clearly state that they will not answer any further questions (i.e. clearly invoke their 5th amendment right not to incriminate themselves) and then, most importantly, STOP TALKING. If they say they want a lawyer but then seem to keep talking or responding, then the police are free to assume that the person has changed their mind and voluntarily extended the interview and wants to keep talking. But, if the arrestee has properly invoked their rights, the police are supposed to stop the interrogation immediately. Assuming that happens properly, then the person would meet with a lawyer who would likely advise them to invoke their 5th amendment right not to incriminate themselves, thereby shifting the entire burden of proof onto the police and prosecution who may or may not already have enough evidence to bring charges. Many times, a suspect talking provides essential evidence.
@ThatOneQueerExtra Half thawed hot pockets are the worst. Siberian Tundra like Ice crystals at one end and molten lavaesque sauce at the other. Literally the epitome of the phrase "fml" no matter what end you bite into.
@big thonkOne can have a saying like, "the early bird gets the worm." This saying is logically cohesive. Obviously other birds get other worms, but the logic is not self-negating. Fish have to open their mouths. So the idea that a fish opening its mouth is stupid is...stupid. Make sense?
Oh for sure! A heroin or opiate addict of any kind will crack fast once that withdrawal start kicking in, and believe me I'm a recovering opiate addict so I would certainly know lucky enough I didn't ever end up in any serious legal situations nor did I I no enough about anything to get anybody in trouble anyway LOL I just kept my mouth shut regarding my charges and I knew better than to open my mouth regarding anybody , and then try to go back to the street and do what I had to do. Back then, at that point I knew was what I was going right back to it as soon as I was free. Thank the Lord I've been clean since May 18th 2010 it's a hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. But there's definitely Merit to what you are saying. Cocaine addicts will keep their mouth shut so fast and not suffer but the more opiate addict goes without their drugs the more horrible they feel and the more tempted they are to do whatever they got to do to get out and get more.
Cops: “if we mix downplaying the questions with confining the person in a small room for hours on end and playing psychological games we can easily interrogate anyone”
@Jack Black alot of it is psychological though, their tone of voice, the words they use, the chair your in, its all to manipulate you into a sense of security until they can get a confession
@DeltroxTv yeah. It's like "fuck that. Sitting here silent for 12hrs and not giving any confession isn't gonna bring more pain then already so might as well do it and avoid jail"
There was nothing illegal about this. He didn’t ask him any questions about the robbery after he asked for a lawyer. And then he left. The next set of questions is 5 hours later, likely after Jeff has talked to a lawyer.
@Myss angelA Because there wasn't one present during questioning, one can assume he didn't speak to an attorney. The first thing an attorney does is make sure there is no questioning without them present.
Idk what the law says where they are but in one of the videos on this page it talked about how it’s not illegal for the cop to still ask questions. The person being questioned can remain silent and can still req a lawyer, but doesn’t stop the detective from questioning and can use whatever information the person says. However, that video was a Canadian detective. Just wondering if it’s possibly the same kinda scenario..
The fact that they can hold someone in a tiny cell for that long when he has repeatedly said he didn’t want to talk and asked for a lawyer is so unconstitutional and wrong it’s not even funny. The law says book them or release them once they ask for a lawyer.
@Mavilo Because this is a universal police problem that everyone should be worried about. The media pushes it like a race issue last several years, but the reality is police abuse their authority all the time on everyone and we should all be upset.
@Alexander Erickson Then get upset and do something about it? What are you on about lol. The idea that people can't instigate institutional change is ridiculous and naive at best.
@Koyi Chan What are you doing to induce institutional change in the world?? How can someone as an individual make a difference in our crooked legal system. Want him to run for public office? Its niave to say that individuals can create institutional change even though the people who dedicate their entire lives to forming national organizations, charities, and protests cant even invoke that type of change in this country. As sad as it sounds, we are pretty powerless to the conditions that surrond us.
@Koyi Chan What has movements like BLM accomplished in regards to institutional police reform? Have they succeeded in their cause? If the government or the big corporations dont want it to happen, its not going to happen. Other than devoting his life to a political cause, what is the person to do to induce institutional change?
@Jarek M so your overall message is , someone else tried it - it didn’t work, other people tried it still hasn’t work, so stop trying and do nothing except submit to a false sense of freedom and persecution by an unjust law?
@taylor hernandez My message is that the US government is fucked and you will not be able to induce institutional change due to how the system is set out. Thats the reality of things. You can fight for it but ultimately your effort will probably not do kuch but mske you feel better
You should look up the Hostage Justice system in Japan. Iirc, they can hold you in detainment for 23 days without filing a charge provided the officers deem there to be suspicion. This can be extended with a simple court order. (Doubled or a week extension; I forget.) Anyways, it’s just something to look up if this is something that intrigues you.
@Jarek M Actually, it's about 98% of those who go to trial (which equates to about 30% of those who get arrested), but your point still stands. A lot of people say the Japanese system is like "Guilty until proven innocent". I would rather say "Guilty until proven guilty". Totally fucked up system.
@Alexander Erickson They need to but they don't. Which is literally what the problem is with the police. No accountability for their actions and when they do violate it and they're severely caught in the public eye, they're just moved around. Keep their pensions, move to another department and do it all over again.
Not sure who you're telling to grow up lol. Those who are complacent when their rights are violated need to grow up. So try looking in a mirror.
@Robert Dunn Ehmmmm, no. A high conviction rate just means that more people are getting convicted. And being convicted doesn't automatically imply that they have committed the crime they are accused of.
As for the last part of your comment, I believe most people here in the comments (myself included), are sympathetic towards this guy, because the police officers are clearely abusing their authority by not letting him go back to his cell and not giving him a lawyer. Things that would be unthinkable in a civilized Country (like the one I come from).
@Robert Dunn Also, I forgot: the very last part of your comment is total bs. You don't "have it easier" by confessing or pleading guilty (which is exactly what the police is expecting from you). You "have it easier" by finding a good defense attorney.
@Robert Dunn apparently you've never been at the wrong place, like a concert, and held for something I never heard of, so until you experience it first hand you should go experience the endless questions for hours on end by a team about something you didn't do, then tell me that. If you've sat through that, by all means tell me about it.
@Robert Dunn I don't believe you, and I was a child, now im a scary man. Even if you spent the weekend in your hometown jail you sat there. I bet you can't handle sitting in your recliner at home for 30 hours only going to the bathroom 3x, nothing else in the room unless you have some one to scream accusations at you for hours. I'm not crying either it's an injustice that shouldn't be, it's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but it's guilty until your able to prove yourself innocent. If you agree with the status quo you should start thinking for yourself. You voted for Biden didn't you?
The sad and pathetic thing about this, is that this is typical interrogation technique used throughout the US and Canada. In this case it is especially egregious because Jeff, after being Mirandized, asked for an attorney. After an individual requests an attorney the interrogation must stop. The police must not continue with questions that could invoke an incriminating response. Not only did they ignore his request for an attorney, they proceeded with the interrogation process.
Not entirely true. They can ask whatever they want. But after he asks for a lawyer, anything he says won't be inadmissible as evidence. So they absolutely can still sit there and ask questions.
And Brian Laundrie crossed the country, lawyered up, didn't say shit, went on a camping trip, disappeared from his home and the police didn't find out for days... And he was free all that time after committing murder. Unbelievable.
Mirandized? That’s a fetish activity right? Yanks and their “mirandized” and “burglarized” These words are so amusing in English. We say “burgled” Burglarized sounds like a sexual act
@rafer Jefferson iii Lmfao I can't believe that British people not only use shortened forms of words the US does but also thinks that anyone cares about it.
@rafer Jefferson iii As a fellow Englishman, I get your point on burgled vs. burglarised, but mirandised? You're not gonna say "mirandled" are you, lmao
@Taylor I'm not sure that's true. I think you have to maintain your silence. "I wan't a lawyer" then blab your story =confession. At least that's what the guys at Rekeita Law said.
@Sean Hopkins Unfortunately, the cops can keep asking you questions. It's up to the individual to fully understand what do the Miranda rights mean, what are the police officers trying to do, and what they should do in that situation. Fortunately, Jeff seems to understand those.
@war13death that's not how it ever happens though they would use it against him anyway. Tons of cases prove that. Sometimes a guy will ask for a lawyer then be suck in the room for over an hour "waiting for the lawyer", while the cops try to talk to him and get a confession through any means
@Sasino And things become inadmissible in court, sure, but they can mention it and the jury (if applicable) and the court will hear it already, even if it's stricken down. They will have heard it and it will become part of the thought process, along with knowing that it's inadmissible.
@Sean Hopkins Um, bullshit. They can keep asking questions that the suspect doesn't have to answer. They can still use his reactions on camera against him in the legal case. I love how often people are against cops employing tactics to catch criminals nowadays.
@XandZ - Because cops don't really care about "catching criminals" nowadays (or ever). They just care about catching somebody.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure most cops would prefer that the correct person goes down for the crime. But, honestly, they are evaluated on their clear rates, which means that their incentive structure is built around finding any adequately plausible suspect, not the actual guilty party... And I'm not even blaming them. I'm just saying that people follow their incentive structures to their logical ends whether those ends are good or bad. And law enforcement, on the level of both police and prosecutors have bad incentive structures that reward them for finding somebody and don't punish them if that later turns out to be the wrong somebody.
and thus why hes seen as an anti hero, sure this guy isnt a great guy but he shows what someone should do in this situation, maybe you are in this situation wrongly, you should do what he does here.
@M Detlef No. No, they really cannot. When a suspect tells you that they want an attorney present, you are legally required to gather up your paperwork and have that person escorted back to their cell. But thank you for incorrecting me.
@r s I'm sorry, what I meant is that even if the cops keep interrogating you, they can't be charged as @Sean Hopkins said. The cops, as shown in this video, will probably still continue to ask questions, even if what you say may not be technically used in court. I think @ibrudiiv explained it much better.
Dave Van Vlerah2020-09-08 15:37:19 (edited 2020-09-08 15:39:00 )
@Niminae I'm the child of two police officers. I'm 50, and they were cops almost my entire life. (Dad retired a detective.) I'm very familiar with the world of law enforcement. The instant someone says they want an attorney, the interview is over. This detective broke the law, plain and simple. As much trouble as I've put myself in, I have little sympathy for criminals, but I have less respect for cops who ignore the law. My parents were by the book cops.
@Sean Hopkins It's not illegal for them to ask you more questions, the evidence just isn't admissible. It would be insane to arrest someone literally just for asking someone a question.
As an ex heroine addict, I'm feeling so well what he's going through, those awful withdrawals.. and you can hear his voice change because of them and these cokes he's asking for are to keep his sugar high.
This guys actually the man. Only reason people like him is cuz he didnt hurt anyone, and wasnt accused of it. Then hes funny and is amazing at understanding what the officers r trying to do
StofStuiver I don’t agree at all, actually. Rights are rights. The fact that violations of rights happens doesn’t mean that it is therefore right, appropriate or correct. In the United States, it is a matter of constitutional law that a lawyer is guaranteed to anyone being detained or arrested. So is healthcare. He invoked his right to both and did not get either. Therefore, the officer violated his civil rights, guaranteed to him by the United States Constitution. The issue here really isn’t what you or I think of it. The issue here is that it was unlawful. Make sense?
Jono Pearson the ones provided by the state? Those are the universal defense lawyers lol. Everyone has access to a state appointed lawyer if you do not have the financial means for a private lawyer.
@I. Wynn Wynn technically, if you are in need of healthcare you will get it. They won't just let you die on the street because they don't know who you are or can't afford it.
He was in discomfort, and wasn't in neef of emergency care.
@Dominique Does Life his case could be possibly be let go because of the violation of his rights and the clear lack of evidence outside of his past crimes which do not apply to his case and cannot be used to incriminate him
as someone without a prescription for methadone, was he in any place to be entitled to healthcare ? coming from a legal standpoint not moral, bc if it was up to me morally i’d get that man some methadone and a lawyer
@Nick Even if you are already compliant to a methadone programme at the time of arrest with a valid script at the local clinic, you will be a good week in the dungeon cells before you get your first daily dose - that's if you're lucky. I've heard of people go up to 8 weeks.
For those who don't know... methadone withdrawals are just like heroin withdrawals only they last for up to 6 months, taking over a year before sleep patterns start returning.
@hugokuoful Well we have shelters for homeless they also get money from the state and there are also kitchens for impoverished people. Idk which country you live in but where I'm from, (austria) nobody has to be homeless or starve. the most people are homeless because they are too lazy to get their check from the government, which is a shame but theres only so much you can do. I would think that being healthy should be a right lol
spinosaurus striker The healthcare industry is shitty af. No joke. But the constitution offers us protected rights, and healthcare, no matter how shitty (**sarcasm detected**), which is still guaranteed to each American, under the law.
Raul Hernandez Wait, what? You’re telling me that every citizen gets a lawyer, if they ask for one? 😆 You’re correct though, sarcasm aside. Whether it be a public defender or a privately hired attorney, this gentleman asked for an attorney, and did not get one when he asked.
Ace Grossman Yes. He was. We’re not just talking about methadone, or filling a prescription. We’re talking about healthcare on the whole. If someone in custody requests healthcare, they have the right to it. Of course, I’m just Dominique, Esq. from google university, but I read a lot, and am familiar with constitutional law to some degree, as we all should be.
@Dominique Does Life when you are in custody you don't don't get to dictate what kind of health care you are given. How do you know he didn't go to the infirmary after the first interview? If he did and a doctor said his withdrawals are not life threatening then that's it. They give you some ibuprofen and send you back to your cell.
Wasn’t there recently a story about a woman who gave birth in her cell without medical assistance? No medications, all alone. It was all caught on video.
@Dominique Does Life They do it all the time. The monstrous prison industry complex exploits the poor of society. Modern day slavery. These people's lives are ruined over non violent, victimless "crimes" and unconstitutional laws. I'm speaking nothing of this case. And there are people who absolutely belong locked up. But we have way too many people locked up for unconstitutional laws. This system is rigged and it is absolutely disgusting.
yeah for real this dude was totally in the right, and honestly even if he wasnt innocent, no addict deserves to be put through withdrawl. and when asked for a lawyer, the interrogation must immediately cease.
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what are the odds right when i re watch this video i see this
686 likes@doja Came here from the Lee Rodarte video, couldn't recall the coke reference in the comments and decided to watch this again.. and this fucking legend pins a link to Jeff's channel an hour ago! Perfect timing
411 likesPretty awesome to see him playing drums & seeming to be doing alright!
362 likeswow less than an hour ago. the chances right?
78 likeswhat a king
74 likes🤣 dude just snuck in booze to his 90 year old grandpa about 5 hours ago !!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
123 likesPerfect timing
8 likesi love your channel Jim. Please put more out ASAP!!! Keep it up.
40 likesNow this is epic
24 likesHOLY FUGGIN SHIT!
34 likeshe looks like he def still on that H
18 likes@Spanishkid obviously. rampant daily use of drugs doesn't make you a beauty queen, especially when you've been doing it for a good while. He seems like he's off the junk and smoking nug instead. At least thats my assumption. Hopefully hes on nothing but weed isn't bad as long as you remain productive and forward thinking. Check out who he's subscribed to, a couple spiritual channels. He's definitely moving up.
178 likesAddicts love sweet when not doing the junk
32 likesHence the coca cola
20 likes—that I was SITTIN on?!!?!?!?
15 likesThe fact he is able to pull this off while in withdrawals is super impressive hahaha
106 likesHe's definitely got the junkie voice, that low rumble
I grew up with guys just like him, super blunt and honest about using haha
It's funny the murderers are all stupidly honest & admit shit despite their planning
But hes actually smart and doesn't say a damn word haha
You're not my friend, you're trying to get my confession, he knows the drill hahaha
It's great
Yoooo congrats to him
6 likesI like that the dude is doing things with himself. Heroin is not an easy addiction to kick.
54 likesMan if he keeps playing these cops for sodas he’ll be filled out in no time. Tell em no get a coke and dip
16 likesidk doesnt sound like the same guy, original jeffs voice sounds way deeper. also doesnt seem to have the same demeanor as original jeff, or even be the same height as original jeff. also, doesnt even live in the original area this took place. original jeffs hair is darker and face is different. one could argue heroine use will do things but not change a persons face bone structure and height for instance. be cautious it may just be someone trying to cash in on this original jeff guys clout.
12 likesso he knows better than to give the cops a timeline,just like anybody whose been through the system,how legendary
4 likes@MarchOnRome It's him - check out around 7:40 ish. You can see some of his chest tattoos. Plus I mean c'mon look at his ears.
17 likes@Spanishkid Well, he was a "junkie" for 14 years, that's quite a while. Doing drugs that much, possibly every single day, isn't gonna make you look all nice and pretty. But he might've changed since then. If not, he probably switched to something lighter.
7 likesImagine walking into that room and trying to get someone to confess when you KNOW they didn’t do it.....it’s a form of evil! What must they be saying to each other outside! Because it bloody isn’t them talking about how they actually think he done it
22 likesThat's not the real jeff
4 likes@Landon Price You can get 5 years for shoplifting. You probably won't but you can.
3 likes@Odin Satanas Hey, never underestimate a junkie. I say this as a recovering junkie (3 years in recovery).
18 likesi'm pro anti
4 likesbut i'm also anti pro
4 likesI'm new to the channel and I just saw a few videos you've done. Thank you for your insight, much appreciated
3 likes.*
0 likesJeff’s ALBUM?? Did I read that right?? What’d this man drop??
5 likesAh I love the happy ending
1 likeNot that Jeff has a Patreon 😂🤣😂 🤯
2 likesPls interview Jeff on your channel JCS! That interrogation video is from a few years back I guess and a lot must have happened since that you two could talk about! That would be so epic.
7 likesMy favorite part was in the intro he looks down like hes just realizing hes in handcuffs then he asks if hes under arrest😂
2 likesWho bothers Santa on his fu@$king break? 😂😂🤣😁😂
6 likes@Calcium Crusader They are allowed to hold them under suspicion while they gather evidence for a limited period of time or get a confession. In this case it looks like he was there for a day before they let him go due to current lack of evidence to charge. Always best to get a lawyer and decline to speak. If you're guilty and they have the evidence you're fucked anyway.
5 likesJeff knows how to conclude... “I’m done”
5 likesi cant address how much i love this analysis, brilliant!
1 likeu my friend restore the faith in humanity
1 likeA detective is a respectable human being jeff. He wouldn't lie to you. If he tells you that he thinks it's in your best interest to talk to him than he really means it. He is offering you guidance Jeff trying to help you out brother. Smarten up jeff, talk to the detective man. Lol.
1 like@steven sherrier jedi mind trick
5 likesGiving this guy money is like injecting heroin directly into his arm. Sad he didn’t get any redemption in his life.
0 likesWe saw his interrogation as harrowing. He saw it as another day waiting until he could get his heroin. He won’t be alive much longer. Sad.
JCS.... with your video, you handed Jeff a way out. I am floored. God bless you and may The Lord bless Jeff out of his turmoil and give him peace from smack and pills. Jeff... if you are reading this... the Deep State counts on you being a victim. Use that as your higher power and get off the smack. I'll be praying for you.
7 likesDidn't really care for the video. Hard to follow along or watch when the narrator can't shut up for more than 2 seconds and allow the video to play. I don't mind stopping but stopping every couple seconds is rather disrupting to the viewer.
2 likesPlease do the case of Jodi parrack
0 likesI've Never Done Heroin, But I Hear It's Some Bad Stuff. I Have Known Some People That Have Been Bad Off On Various Different Stuff Though.
0 likes@Zach Frederick I Think He Already Did One On The Jodi..
0 likesJeff is truly a legend
4 likeshe’s clean now!
2 likesDid u show him ur vid?
0 likesGuy is still definitely on drugs.
2 likesJeff's awesome you guys. Hes still just as crazy and hilarious. The song links are him. Hot waters is favorite. He wrote it while he was living in a cabin in the middle of fucking nowhere with no hot water running around naked until his dad kicked him out cause the neighbors complained too much 😆 I wish I could share the ones from when we jammed at his moms last summer 🤣 fucking gold, but they're just video recordings on my phone lol
10 likesJust fyi: seems this channel has been plagiarizing your content “eric长安万年”
0 likesHow can he refuse to talk to the police ask for a lawyer and still be pressured for a confession? What kind of right is this?
7 likes@Meowoofius It is very clearly him! And i dont think JCS would just post links to some random dude if he didnt confirm if it was in fact Jeff first.
3 likesI have no idea how he got out of life sentence, but im so very glad he did. And seems to be doing much better now. Godspeed Jeff!
2 likesStill following him now, he’s trying to make it 👍
1 likeL
0 likesIf he had prior convictions, there is no way Coca-Cola will hire him EVER!
0 likesIt would be easier to believe that he married a Canadian girl and lives there as a rich guy.
He has a patreon but no one actually knows what happened to him?
1 like@TrueCrimeGuru He has a YT channel
3 likesOMG! I came back to rewatch this & you found Jeff?! Fuck yeah.
2 likesI love his video titled: “The Feds Tore Apart my Trailer Park” 💀
@TrueCrimeGuru When the video was first made nobody knew. Now we do.
1 like@Uncle Chico how's called
0 likesAids
0 likes@are bee There are plenty of other videos out there if you don't like JCS. He adds other information in to explain the psychology behind the people and acts which I think is very interesting and adds to the value.
7 likes@doja Changes are great, it’s a pinned comment made by the actual OP.
0 likesThe man, the myth, the legend
1 likeThe truth of the matter is this guy could possibly actually be innocent I don’t know if he was or wasn’t but sometimes innocent people get pinned and this is how it goes.....
1 likeJEFFFFF MAH MAN! He’s on YT. Subbed quicker than I’ve ever subbed. Hope he’s doing ok!
1 like@Brad R he gets $20 a month on Patreon. He ain’t getting much from that. Except maybe x48 cans of Coke.
1 likeThe best!
0 likes@TrueCrimeGuru, the comment was an update two months after the video. Try to keep up.
0 likes4:30 - ONE MORE! Familiarity, like Walter White in BB.
2 likes@🌹 Robeon Mew 🔰 ...
1 likeHe wants his candy bar but he dont ask for a lawyer he dont ask to see there proof he has a gun or anything important just give me my candy bar and he dont get it either poor guy
0 likesPut smile on my face, n makes my day
1 likeYou should make another video updating on his progress!
0 likes@Rockne Poovey when i replied, the comment was like 30 seconds new
0 likes@Patience Myers This is his channel Thank me later! https://www.youtube.com/c/SYRENGEMUSIC/videos
1 like@Chr Azer This is his channel Thank me later! https://www.youtube.com/c/SYRENGEMUSIC/videos
1 likeLegalise drugs and end the stupid war on drugs.
2 likesQuestion. How long after one asks for a lawyer does it take to get one? And do the police have the right to interrogate after detained person asks for lawyer or do they just hope he gets more desperate and he’ll talk? The burden of guilt is in the police. Jeff doesn’t have to prove he’s innocent. I’m concerned with the police questioning a sick man. He’s bound to say anything to get out of there and get well. This scenario is troubling.
5 likesI don't condone crime but wasn't that questioning supposed to end when he asked for a lawyer?
2 likesPlease make an update to this please
0 likesLove it
0 likesDamn. Heroin addict for 14 years. Everyone I know who was addicted to opiates (and is still alive, including myself) is either is off of the heroin now or I'm sure they are incarcerated or dead. Most of those people (some of them my friends) are dead.
0 likesCan you do one on the guy from Making a murderer
0 likesNever talk to the police... especially if you are innocent.
4 likesDont think that's the same guy. Similar looking but something seems off.
1 like@#FreeSchaefferCox1 the drugs perhaps?
0 likes@John Matthews
0 likesI guess it could be but the voice sounds a bit different to me. May be nothing.
0
0 likesNice vid
0 likesOh wow :D
0 likesYes
0 likesYay
0 likesJCS - JEFF'S COKE SUPPLY
1 like*it's all getting together.."
wow thats wholesome
0 likesMy favourite edit of all time. Regardless of whether or not he was guilty, I am glad he is living a better life now.
0 likesThe yeehaw accent
0 likesJeff bezos😂
0 likesSammmeeeeee! 😅
0 likesno fucking way
0 likesWhy does a criminal have a Patreon page?
0 likesI retract my previous comment...
0 likesLETS GOOOO
0 likesWell thanks for interrupting about Jeff, the host of this video loves to hear himself talk. It makes him feel smarter than all of us. Keep in mind people, Psychology is one of the worse things that’s happened in America. Psychology is anti-God it is anti-Christ it is anti-Holy Bible and all of its teachings is the opposite of what Gods word teaches. Example-Gods word teaches us to forgive those who has trespassed against us. Psychology teaches to remember what they’ve done to us. Gods word teaches that when we have done something wrong or sinful to ask for forgiveness, Psychology teaches if you done something wrong or sinful it’s not your fault but it’s the fault of a parent or family member. Who founded Psychology a man who was influenced by demonic spirits who stated that as he was thinking about his theory of reading the soul-mind that he could feel the evil in the room with him why? Because they was in the room with him. Yes Psychology is evil and it’s destroying Americans lives everyday. It does not have any answers to any problem.
0 likesseeing the words "jeff's album" upon clicking show more is a wonderful surprise
0 likesA legend? this is so stupid, if you act like this you are 100% guilty proven lol. Those young guys that made the questions to him where very very bad and unexperienced.
0 likesthe anti hero we all need
0 likesHey... Jim... where is the rest of this video? :D why did you remove portions of it?
0 likesSalvation!
0 likes@Howard Thomas He's not a criminal. He's a human being that has committed crimes. More than that he was suffering from a substance abuse disorder the entire time.
0 likes@Michael Corcoran Thats why I retracted my first statement, or did not you not see that?
1 likeSorry JVS, but I think you do mankind and or senses a bit short of on this one. I don't need to hear him thanks for the coke to know he's got a glimmer of something human in him. I can simply great it in all his reactions, he simply is be being himself and is completely straight whereas the cops are not.
0 likesBy the way, why wouldn't it be known what happened to 'Jeff'? As there's an obligation to publish records, it would be known if he was charged.
0 likes@doja es5sE666766667666
0 likes@Amber Davis can you give me one hint to figure out what the numbers mean
0 likes@Gavriel Papas Thats why Pepsi is a better company
0 likesThe villan 90% of the time I feel for.
0 likesPLZ PLZ PLZ MAKE MORE VIDEOS! ITS A CRIME TO MAKE US WAIT THIIIS LONG!! 😎😎😎
0 likesA
0 likesI am sympathetic for him cuz he’s not like you know a mass murderer or something like I wouldn’t feel scared of this person being out in public I just think he probably needs help for addiction to heroin obviously because drugs suck. And sometimes they make you do dumb things so yeah
0 likes@Robert You clearly do not understand anything about psychology. If you DID, things might make more sense to you.
1 like@I’mActually Not a furry You're the type of person to forgive a rapist and keep the baby.
0 likesPsychology is contrary to True Christianity, it teaches the opposite of what Gods word teaches Christianity the Holy Bible is Gods word and those who claim to be Christian but you embrace psychology you are not a True Born Again Believer, there is a Heaven there is a Hell all who rejects Jesus Christ will burn for eternity.
0 likes@Robert Dear oh dear.
2 likes@Fun With Minerals ya that’s what psychology does to you, dumb you down. At least you know one word
0 likes@Robert Yikes.
1 likeScience > storytelling.
Goodbye.
@Robert Science is often very scary to those that do not understand it.
3 likes@Robert OK, rob you have fun sitting in the corner playing with your dolls.
2 likes@Fun With Minerals are you talking from experience?
0 likesThe three B's!
0 likesExcellent editing on these videos. Haunting and eerie, hilarious and informative.
0 likesDamn, hooked this 15 min of fame into an epic hustle. Glad to see he managed to get clean, many do not.
0 likes@CHSD he might be cleaned but he’s not delivered from it. The desire will always be there that’s why a large percentage will always fail and go back into that pleasure of their choice. Jesus can save cleanse and deliver from any bondage and there will be no desire, “ I’m free at last free at last thank God I’m free at last”
0 likesBro for having so many subscribers u sure take ur time posting videos. About one video a month it looks like. Im not tryin to criticize but just say we would love more!!!!
0 likesI don’t feel bad for Jeff if you do the crime you do the time. The detective doesn’t seem to get it when reading the rights “you have the right to remain silent”
0 likesPsychology has not explained anything but the opinion of the psychologist giving it
0 likesThat is not the real jeff wtf
1 like@Uncle Chico that's not the real jeff bro
1 likeHe has a good voice
0 likes7:43 "thanks for the coke"
0 likes😆😆😆😆😆 At least Jeff is nice
Idk about all the psychological mumbo jumbo, but I like him because he has a great sense of humor. Hopefully he got clean and is getting things figured out.
0 likes@doja I mean basically 100% how else could you see this comment?
0 likes@Chr1stown 😂
0 likesWhy would I give money to a criminal?
0 likes@Verify Truth Been A smackhead for twenty years. Believe me, don't try it. It is very nice and so easy to get into that you will probably regret it for a very long time.
0 likes@louise Thank You For The Advice. I Will Take Your Word For It.
0 likesP
0 likesWhich One?
0 likessee i knew neither of those ridiculous stories was true. hes just out there bein jeff !
0 likeslol and he just uploaded three minutes ago. insane timing hahaha
0 likes5:13
0 likesI can sorta relate ~ I’ve been on methadone for 13 years
We want you BACK
1 likeHey, JCS. Did you edit out this video? Where was the clip where you explain when Jeff says " Long time, buddy." And " the gun that I was sitting on."
0 likesOne he requests his attorney, why does the questioning without one continue?
0 likesOh duh anyways I lost all my contacts and was hoping I could drop me an email even a blank one so I can contact u…..
0 likesWait what? Jeff has an album? I have watched this video like three times and just noticed this. Jeff is living up to the Anit-hero label.
0 likesNever talk to the police without an attorney. Jeff did the thing everyone should do, guilty or not.
0 likesJEFF HAS A FUCKING ALBUM THIS IS THE GREATEST THING EVER
0 likesOuch.. I wish the best for Jeff but that isn't an "album".
0 likes@ASKEW_HUMIDITY_20years_RADHATOR absolutely!!! i can’t believe such a common knowledge was not included in this piece
0 likes@Meowoofius damm! height!
0 likes@Scotty Shannon terrifying to even imagine it
0 likes@Conrado FMC_Ny painful to watch…
0 likesCame for “what pretending to be crazy looks like” stayed for Jeff
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Same. Not disappointed.
101 likesThe demons made me click on this video
274 likes@Andy Gygi The voices?
109 likes@G E T R E K T yes, right after that evil German dance song
178 likesSame tbh
5 likesExactly what I did haha, time to binge!
14 likesCame for "Criss watts Part three. Realized I was skipping the entire saga. watched number one. remained since
7 likesLol, Jeff is a MASTER! Remember this one word, homies, if eva in the interrogation room,.....LAWYER!
11 likes🤟🤟🤟
1 likeOMG ME TOO!!! JEFF THO!!!
1 like@Andy Gygi HAHAHAHAHA freakin' GOLD comment right there!! Too funny!!! 🤩🤩😎🤩🤩
1 likeong
0 likesLiterally exactly same
0 likesSame
0 likesSame.
0 likesSame lmao
0 likesHashtag me too
0 likesLol; indeed
0 likesOh my gosh….yes!
0 likesJeff was the demon voice
2 likesWow... Same here
0 likesSame
0 likesAndy Gygi
0 likescoulda sworn I heard Hitler singing Hakuna Matata
I did the same thing 🤣
0 likesStayed for JEFF
0 likessame.
0 likessame
0 likesHARD SAME
0 likesSame
0 likesIkr
0 likesLiterally
0 likesWe all stayed for Jeff. 🙏
0 likessame
0 likesMe too
0 likesSame. Within a gap of 3 days. But same journey. This definitely was the best!!
0 likessameeee
0 likesliterally same
0 likes@Andy Gygi stopppp 💀
0 likesSame. Then caught the demons as well. Lol Jeff's great
0 likesI been on a binge since 3 horrifying interviews with serial killers 😂
0 likesJeff
0 likesME TOO DUDE
0 likesHeroin withdrawals will have you not looking your best feeling your worst
0 likesofficer: “you have the right to stop answering until you speak to a lawyer”
1833 likesjeff: “i want a lawyer”
officer: “this is what i don’t understand”
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Correct me in I'm wrong, but can't detectives not continue an interrogation once the suspect asks for a lawyer? Like they're not allowed to?
41 likes@AYW Jewelry once the person calls a lawyer then the officer can’t do anything at that moment
55 likesYep, but they continue to 'interview' him.
26 likesHe could have got something from this $ wise, held with no evidence, no representation when requested, they knew they had nothing all along.
Sadly compensation would have likely gone up his arm as fast as it was 'won' . . . so a good thing that didn't happen (I hope).
@Les Skinner money unlikely
4 likesCharges dropped because evidence (if there were any) would be inadmissible
@j rich I live in a fairly non litigious country (as compared to the US), but how this went down one could easily sue a city / police dept over this.
2 likes@Les Skinner that’s typically not how civil suites work
1 likeYou CAN sue, that’s your right. The point is you won’t see substantial gain, if anything at all
This is because judgements are based on the level of harm/loss one sustains from the infringement
I don’t know all nation’s laws but they aren’t dissimilar on things like this
The first guy was awarded because he was wrong accused, he was specifically told his process was going to be different, it was unusual and he was detained for 3 days. There are also racial implications
In the second guy he literally GAINED from the interaction and there were no resultant losses
He was wronged but there was no real measurable loss or infringement
The result of this already has legal precedence. Anything he said would be inadmissible as evidence and he would probably have charges dropped if there were no other outstanding evidence (which there probably wouldn’t be since they don’t interrogate aggressively if they have enough)
So let’s say he sued for 1.00 and a formal apology
Would probably win and be awarded both
Sue for substantial amounts and the judge is most likely going to state some statute that protects the municipality stating the officer in question has been (insert slap on wrist here) to keep the public faith in the system
You CAN sue, yes you are right. It’s your time and money
I’m just saying that it’s not just cut and dry
@Les Skinner you have no right to representation being present unless you have been arraigned
0 likes@ronald macdonald False. You are allowed to have a lawyer present during questioning.
1 likeU.S. (512 U.S. 453 (1994).) The Court noted that if a suspect invokes the right to counsel at any time, the police must at once stop the questioning until a lawyer is present
Fifth Amendment's right to be protected from giving incriminating testimony or the Sixth Amendment's right to have an attorney for your defense.
"The U.S. Supreme Court considered facts much like these in a case called Davis v. U.S. (512 U.S. 453 (1994).) The Court noted that if a suspect invokes the right to counsel at any time, the police must at once stop the questioning until a lawyer is present. (A suspect can also invoke the right to remain silent—see Is post-arrest silence enough to stop police questioning?) But the Court also said that, after a suspect waives the Miranda rights, officers may continue asking questions until the suspect makes a clear request for a lawyer.
If the comment is ambiguous—if a reasonable officer would interpret it as a potential request for a lawyer—then the police can continue interrogating. The suspect must "actually" request an attorney to end matters. In other words, the suspect must say something that is clear enough for a reasonable officer to interpret it as a request for a lawyer."
What kind of annoys me is that he very clearly said "I want a lawyer" and nobody stopped the interview to get him a lawyer. Like fuck, what's the point of reading someone's rights if you just casually go about it.
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I was curious about that too
32 likessimple answer I'm sure you know as well. Saying his rights is
20 likes1. a way to get Jeff to converse
2. Make the cop seem like a "good cop"
Because they had nothing, and knew it.
20 likesJeff knew they had nothing too.
From what I know if you ask for a lawyer, but you keep talking anyways, it’s like you waived your right. He knew he was innocent, the cop knew he was innocent, so he probably figured he would talk to get a chance to get out sooner then then just lock him in a room waiting for a lawyer
15 likes@Mr. Mock That, plus a lot of the time you have to be very, very specific with how you state that you're exercising your rights. Like, for a lawyer you'd have to specifically state "I'm requesting an appointed lawyer and will not speak until you supply me one" or something along those lines. I can't remember exactly, but basically you have to stay by your demand, and actually demand it OF THEM instead of just saying "I won't speak until I have a lawyer." because then they'll just just make you wait in there, since you didn't say anything about actually Getting one, just that you wouldn't talk without one. Cops are going to do everything in their power to loophole you into a cell, regardless of your innocence. They're just looking to fill quotas and keep power. Cops don't protect people, they protect the state. And the state Does Not Like Heroin Addicts.
15 likesThe answer is simple Jeff pretty much waived his right to a lawyer by continuing to talk after the request and by agreeing to do more interrogations for soda and candy. What Jeff should have done is demanded his right to a lawyer and kept demanding it while keeping his mouth shut about anything else. However the police can legally detain you without a single charge for 48 hours if your a suspect.
7 likes@Cookiesrfood Wrong, once the request for a lawyer is made, the police must do two things by law. First, STOP ALL QUESTIONING. Second, remove the individual from the interrogation room as soon as possible until representation has been procured. There is no legal precedent for continuing a conversation after a suspect has called for a lawyer. Yes, if the individual continues to talk, that is still admissible, but the police CAN NOT persuade the suspect to continue to talk after by asking more questions.
3 likes@John Herrin Not wrong at all, First of all they did stop the interrogation once a lawyer was asked for and returned him to his cell. The police are legally allowed to hold you for a 48 hour period without question though the hour time limit varies by state. Then they start a NEW interrogation when they reread him his MIRANDA rights again and this new interrogation only takes place because presumably Jeff agreed to it for a coke. The police didn't persuade the suspect by asking more questions they persuaded him by offering a coke can. What probably happened behind the scenes is that they offered him a coke if he agreed to talk with them more Jeff could have said "no I won't say anything until my lawyer gets here" but it looks like he agreed to talk more for a coke which gives police the go ahead to talk to him again. Additionally when they reread him his miranda rights the 2nd time that was Jeff's opportunity to assert he wanted a lawyer again and didn't want to talk to them.
8 likesThe reason for the first interrogation was because he was a suspect and Jeff had no choice but to attend the interrogation; however the subsequent interrogations only take place because Jeff himself agrees to them. They most likely did contact a public defender lawyer after the initial interrogation but public defender's don't just magically appear it takes time for them to show up because there typically swamped with cases. Are the police being manipulative here and taking advantage of a junkies withdrawl symptoms? Yes they are but it is still legal. Now a defense lawyer could argue that the police were taking advantage of a known junkies withdrawl symptoms and claim it was a form of coercion to try to get what he said in the interrogation room thrown out; however they would have a tough time proving that the police didn't uphold his rights to a lawyer especially when Jeff agreed to talk more and was read his Miranda rights multiple times before each interrogation.
DATS THE COPS BABEE
1 likeYou have to say, I evoke my right to a lawyer and will make use of my right to silence till then.
0 likes@Cookiesrfood you have to sign to waive your rights brother. You cannot waive your rights in the way you say
0 likes@kooolkidninjamaster not anymore. There are new coercion laws. All a suspect has to say is the word "lawyer" after that the cops must stop asking questions. If they dont it falls under coercion. This may have been a while ago and before that but no you do not have to say you evoke your right to a lawyer. Quite the opposite actually. You have to sign or verbally agree to waive any rights which is why Jeff reiterates hes not signing anything
0 likesThey don't just run out and get you one. Especially if you don't have one on retainer. To much TV
0 likesThe thing that touches me is that Jeff clearly feels like the system has failed him, and has no trust in it whatsoever, maybe hes even angry. Yet, he remains polite and respectful towards the officers questioning him. Thats a rare quality. I hope he managed to get his life together!
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‘Polite and respectful’
24 likes“Polite and respectful” “You look like a prick”
39 likesWent there myself, you aren't polite because you feel like being nice, you're """"somewhat"""" polite because otherwise they can easily make the whole process either much longer, or much harsher.
23 likesYou have no control over what you decide especially behind the bars, they know it and they use that as much as they can, as long as it stays "ethical".
@Tyz Don’t you know it’s rude to lie. He was being as polite as he could in the moment. He tried shutting up but they weren’t having it.
5 likesHahaha!!!! Polite and respectful?!?! Hahaha I know when I'm teaching my kids manners I make sure they know to call people pricks and to tell them "fuck no".
1 likeNote to self... Be courtious and you won't go to prison
0 likes@Denmarkball note to self: shit happens, and being courteous may lead you to prison either way
0 likesCop: "I've got a lot of physical evidence."
680 likesJeff: "Like what?"
Cop: "Well, you tell me..."
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Lol. The person being interrogated is the one who is asking you what the evidence is. This is clearly a great miconduct on the officer's side. Yeah, you say you have evidence of what Jeff did? We have evidence of your little misconduct here buddy. Oh yeah and it's a video so we have recordings of you actually doing it.
9 likesThis man agreeing to multiple interviews for the sole purpose of getting cokes is pretty awesome
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thats a huge brain move, what a legend
251 likesThere's a reason for that actually.
511 likesI mean he may just really like cokes but he's going through heroin withdrawal, the sugar in those cokes will be releasing some dopamine and help alleviate a small amount of the discomfort. Science
@Kaito 5head
1 likeWow yeah he’s so awesome you should be like him!
10 likes@PissOtter Flyswatter indeed
2 likesIf you're dopesick and if your stomach aint sitting right, you would want some fucking coke.
34 likes@Luke Kuethe nice
1 like@CartYoun just thought it was funny, I’m literally going to school for criminal justice so you can chill and learn to take a joke
2 likes@Ithrum first off, you only have to read Miranda Rights when interrogating someone. You don’t have to be read your rights if you’re not going to be interrogated. Second off, he’s read his rights each and every time he’s in the interrogation room. Third off, he’s only requesting to be interrogated to get a coke. That’s why he complies until he gets a soda, and then he demands his lawyer and the interrogation is immediately ended and the cops stop interrogating him. He willingly requests an interrogation each time, nothing the cops did in this video would result in a mistrial.
8 likesPerhaps you should actually maybe study the law before you comment about it, cause what you said is just not true at all.
@Ithrum
1 likeVideo shows him agreeing he understands them at 8:19 and 9:49
@PissOtter Flyswatter yeah definitely not as someone who was a junkie for years coke is not going to offer you any relief at all homie was just enjoying the stuff cuz he knows its bologna sandwiches and watered down kool aid after this
3 likes@Peero N you'd be surprised how much coke helps, I know if I go through herion withdrawals and I don't drink a coke ima gag on flem and puke all over the place, the fizziness and acid break down the flem in the back of the throat. Doesn't happen to every addict though ,everybody is different ,
4 likes@Pacman da pack man drink coke can help if you're the type who's withdrawals cause head congestion and water eyes . If I don't drink coke ima throw up all over the place from flem draining down the back of my throat and I know I'm not the only one
4 likes@Skinnyymatt wow nice to know thank you
2 likes@Peero N addiction is so misunderstood ,even by other addicts , so thanks for talking to time to learn something new
2 likes@Skinnyymatt well shit you're lucky then when I used to get sick I could barely even keep water down without puking
3 likes@Pacman da pack man lol I think you'd agree with me there's nothing lucky about any part of heroin withdrawal, but hell I'd of thrown up if I drank water too , coke was the only thing I could drink , idk where you're currently at in your addiction , I hope you never have to withdrawal again but if you do I'd recommend atleast trying it , I've had alot of people look at me crazy over the years for recommending it but it can help.
2 likesNeeds that sugar!
1 likeAndd a butter finger!
2 likes@The Truth not everyone has the same withdrawal symptoms, personally I chain smoke and constantly drink coke to avoid vomiting
3 likes@Ithrum that’s not true. You can most definitely be booked and charged without being read the Miranda warning. Miranda is literally for people being questioned
0 likes@Xanith Rusty Gaming you can be booked but they cannot hold you if you were not read your Miranda rights. Do some studying off wikipedia
0 likes@Ithrum you’re no longer being held if you’re charged and jailed.
0 likes😂😂
0 likesGenuine question, why didn't he receive the lawyer he asked for? The second time he enters the interrogation room it is five hours later than his request, he gets interrogated once more without his lawyer present. Is that not a mistreat? They clearly hadn't got enough evidence to hold him, so they had to release him! But, I am still very confused about my first question.
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I the cop kinda brushed of the request and I guess he would have needed to ask again
42 likesI think he said he would do the interrogation so that he would get another coke
124 likes@Desk Flop Makes sense.
16 likesAfter a request for an attorney, the police have to stop the interrogation. But they can wait a while, give Miranda again and try to restart the questioning. Notice the 5 hour break after he asks for an attorney. Source: Formerly a criminal defense lawyer.
110 likes@Rich Taylor Why can they do that? How is not a total F-U to his rights?
33 likesThe illusion of right.
23 likesA junky with no family or friend, who will know?
Us! And we can do nothing…and they know it
I'm an attorney. When you assert the right to counsel in an interrogation, you have to assert it and stick to it. Say, "I want my attorney," and shut your mouth. If they start asking you questions after that, say you want to wait until you see your attorney and shut your mouth. If you don't, it doesn't matter that you asserted your right to counsel.
70 likes@Laura Darby Why?
5 likes@Cavios precedent is actually good otherwise you’d be automatically ruled by statutes that can’t account for the uniqueness of each case. Unless you want to move to Louisiana and try living under a Civil law code rather than Common law
4 likes@McGuffin Doe Good precedents are good; bad precedents are bad. If you have a shitty system, rife with corruption & inequalities, then it's scarcely a saving grace that the broken clock is sometimes right.
2 likes@Cavios every human system is a broken clock, this one is the best clock humans have come up with.
0 likes@McGuffin Doe No, there's tons of room for improvement, and expert consensus already even knows a number of the changes that we should demand. However, America is a conservative society in a conservative world, and so there is significant opposition to every reasonable improvement we can make.
3 likesIt's a broken system, but it doesn't have to be: People want it to be.
@Cavios what “experts”? If you want it to change, convince 2/3 of your fellow citizens and it’ll be changed. Thankfully, our constitution does not defer to so-called “experts”
1 likeThe gridlock is not a bug, it’s a feature:
“From this view of the subject it may be concluded that a pure democracy, by which I
mean a society consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer
the government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common
passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole; a
communication and concert result from the form of government itself; and there is
nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious
individual.”
@McGuffin Doe What experts? Are you serious? Well for starters, how about you look up the recommendations by the various disciplines that oppose the looming ecological catastrophe, and have all kinds of helpful suggestions about the mathematically necessary actions to prevent it.
3 likesAs for a legal example: If you truly cannot think of a single systemic civil rights matter that's been relevant in the past decade, that... just do us all a favor and stop your ignorance. Black Lives Matter.
Think a little with your brain - honestly.
@Cavios oh I don’t care about those people. Thank God we don’t just make law based on whatever they say. That would be such a disgusting and unamerican tyranny
0 likes@Laura Darby right and even more so when said attorney is a public defender, he'll be waiting weeks if not months to see him
0 likes@apalsnerg He was mirandized, so he knows he doesnt have to talk, but looks like the police 'restart' the interogation clock after leaving the suspect alone for a while, then returning to ask questuons.
2 likesI suspect the interrogator is hoping the suspect will talk anyway, because rights were read, and suspect has the choice to talk or not talk, knowing what he says can and will be used against him/her.
That is the key...dont talk except to ask for an attorney.
@Rich Taylor so basically he doesnt have the right to a lawyer upon request? so it’s a fake right??
1 like@Abby Carpenter on request but not immediately. plus, I don't think he asked for a lawyer, just said I don't wanna talk and they put him back in holding. they can hold him for some hours while trying to get enough evidence to charge
0 likesBecause he kept talking. You gotta say it then literally shut your mouth till they arrive. They’ll try to wait you out and get you to give in. Attorney Tom on YouTube always is saying how you should absolutely never talk to cops lol
0 likes@apalsnerg because a cops main goal is to get a confession regardless of if you did the crime or not. 9/10 talking to the cops without you're attorney present is digging a deeper hole for yourself
0 likesWhy do you think he was read his miranda rights every time they began a new interrogation? lol Yes you do have the right to a lawyer at any time but Jeff essentially waived that right by continuing to talk after the request and by agreeing to do interrogations for soda and candy lol The Police can't force you to talk but they can offer incentives and deals and there's no rules saying you have to take care of a junkies withdrawl symptoms. Additionally the Police are allowed to hold you for 48 hours without bringing up a single charge.
0 likesThat's how he got his second coca cola and a possible butterfinger.
0 likes@Rich Taylor question for a defense lawyer. If someone is innocent, and they fight cops trying to arrest them, only to be discovered later that person was completely innocent, how well would Plummer v State hold? Since that says a person has the right to resist any excessive force. If the arrest turns out to be unlawful, isn’t any force excessive? Always been curious why this hasn’t come up more. All that “good faith” bullshit shouldn’t hold water if the cop is an idiot and doesn’t do a thorough investigation before placing someone under arrest. Seems like most the time they go off of some idiot who doesn’t know the law, and a “suspicious person” seems to be a reason to detain for most cops. They leave out the second part of suspicious of “x” crime being committed.
0 likes@Laura Darby This is not true at all, any decent lawyer can have the entire interrogation thrown out with ease, regardless of what was said. The only thing is there's nothing physically stopping them from reinterrogating, it's not a video game, they can do what they want up until you actually fill out the paperwork.
0 likes@Rich Taylor really? That’s legal?? That’s messed up!
0 likesGood news! This week (June 2022) the SCOTUS ruled that there’s no repercussions for not Mirandising a suspect. I’d say “don’t hold your breath waiting for that lawyer”, but you can’t say anything incriminating while holding your breath and you definitely won’t say anything at all once you pass out!
1 likeRemember folks, even if you didn’t do anything, you might end up saying something police, a court, and a jury misinterpret. Ask for a lawyer, then exercise your right to remain silent early and often.
He's like the final boss of interrogation school.
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And they failed...
6 likes😂😂😂
1 likepretty sure the real final boss would be the guy who narrates these videos 💀
8 likes@oreo he’s a phycology wizard that wouldn’t find himself in a interrogation room
4 likesMy heart hurts for Jeff. His intelligence and above-average cognitive ability shines through his miserable state of heroin withdrawal.
199 likesHe is not a dick, either.
I wish someone had supported&loved him in his early years.
Whatever he'd commited, he definitely sounds smarter and more likeable than that last detective, for one.
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Many addicts come from loving families
3 likesIntelligence breeds boredom, boredom breeds substance abuse.
4 likesI was married to a heroin addict. He was terrifyingly good at hiding it for a looong time
1 like@Hoody's House intelligence does not breed boredom. If you were truly intelligent you could just pay attention to a blade of grass or a flower forever and be amazed
1 like@eViL jEsuS cool which ones
0 likesAddiction is mostly based in trauma
0 likes@Meg Noonan
0 likesAddiction is more likely to develop when someone, at an early age, faces parental mistreatment; i.e. abuse, abandonment or neglect. And there are other, independent variables that may contribute to the onset of addictive disorders.
I'm a therapist, I should know this. And I do.
@morrisal oh i know
0 likesit's terrifying thinking how many people may have traded their shot at freedom for a coke and a butterfinger
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This. Isn't one of the main pieces of advice for dealing with cops "Don't eat their food, don't drink their pop" or something like that? Besides just not talking to them, I mean.
14 likes@RobiTheRat yes it is, fingerprint and saliva dna.
5 likesJeff is 100x smarter than anybody I’ve seen interrogated on this channel lol
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Yeah but the sad part is, apparently only because he already was a dozen times in such situation and learned with time, that there are absolute zero benefits to talk for him.
386 likesJeff's is a veteran of police interrogations.
273 likesprobably the part of the reason is because hes one of the only innocent person on the channel
103 likesIs there in any way I can watch or research about a “smart” criminal out IQ-ing their investigators@detectives and came out un-punished , because that would be an interesting documentary to read and/or watch
37 likes@MediumSur Moon well, it is not exactly what you are looking for, but still worth to mention I think, as this guy basically manages to drive the interrigating officers crazy. They ask him like "look at me" and after that moment the guy starres at him straight for like 2 hours and overall he is just giving the same stupid answers with "yes, no, I dont know" without any emotion. I think he kind of managed to not help them at all...........but the entire evidence was just too obvious anyway.
27 likesMcdaniel interrogation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_xb_JnXGeI
Yes, Jeff is my absolute favorite! I don’t care what anyone says 😂 that dude knows the deal.. I feel bad that drugs got ahold of him though..
33 likes@Taine Hasselberg he never said he doesnt know how he just refused to
1 like@Coolboi no that's heroine. heroin is the drug that jeff abused
1 likeNo one beats casey
7 likes@Itzlolo1991 he is sober and have a YouTube channel too
4 likesI watched 9 seconds into this video. Jeff asks "I'm I under arrest" sitting handcuffed in a cell wearing a "prisoner" outfit. I dunno, Jeff, what do you reckon? 😀
17 likesSo Jeff in this situation still no being sure if he is under arrest, I'd say his brain catches up to things extremely slowly. But if you say he is smarter than anybody else being interrogated on this channel, I'm looking forward to be extremely surprised about Jeff's intelligence in the rest of this video 🤣🤣🤣
Edit: I watched the entire video and indeed Jeff is smarter than anybody else being interrogated on this channel.
40 seconds into the video they read him his rights and he instantly stops talking, even the interrogator didn't get it. Brilliant 😂😂😂😂😂
@Too Hip to Hop "you have the right to remain silent." he remains silent. "JEFF CAN U PLEASE JUST ANSWER ME!!!" XD
10 likesi thought the same as you at first. im glad you continued watching to see what he's really like!
I NEED to know what happened to Jeff
5 likesit’s cause jeff’s been through it :(
0 likesHardly he's a junkie. Plus he's been in this situation many many times most people on this channel are first timers
1 like@TJ Murphy junkies can still be smart. He’s more a result of poor decision making
7 likesNope. Casey Anthony was the smartest.
0 likes@Luke was she actually smarter tho? Think it was more her lawyer
1 like@Kaeser Did you listen to her back and forth with the detectives and with her family members? She was impossible to dominate.
0 likesSponsored by *Coke
4 likesSmart? Yeah maybe. I’d say more aware than anything. A lot of people make the mistake of not thinking before they speak, but in Jeffs case he has been through this so he is used to it all.
1 likeYes I am ... haha just kidding... but no really
0 likesThat’s because unlike everyone else on this channel, Jeff is not guilty
3 likesDude you can't mess with a pro😆
0 likes@Itzlolo1991 hes off drugs now, got his own youtube channel, hes doing well. The story had a very happy ending for jeff
1 likeJeff could have trained detective how to interrogate lol
0 likesIiii
0 likes@Derek I mean that might be true but it's also true he just knew his basic rights. He may be a drug addict but doesn't mean he is stupid.
1 like100%!
0 likesExperience
0 likesI agree
1 likeSmarter lol
0 likesSmarter than every cop too, not to forget!
1 likeTHESE POLICE R OK WITH ARRESTING SOMEONE WHO IS ACQUAINTANCE AT MOST OR SIMPLY NOT JEFF.
0 likesJEFF DONT TRUST THEM AT ALL IM SIGNIN NOTHING
WITHDRAWAL SUCKS BUT IN ORDER FOR HIM TO SIGN SHIT HE MOST READ IT FIRST & 💯% BE ABLE TO RETAIN THE INFORMATION .
0 likesTHE COPS KNOW HOW VULNERABLE HED IS
Most of the time even buddy's dont tell their buddies about committing theft, robbery, strong-armed robbery & damn sure not murder.
0 likesCops can sense if a suspect of interest has genuine body language responses OR OVER compensation or peak interest in the crime in question.
Know this. Here in LOUISIANA
Unlikely he would be released.
Jeff's self preservation sayin "he is done"
0 likesTHATS GOD LOOKIN OUT FOR HIM
Facts
0 likeshell yes! He's like oh u wanted to tell me everything and now after i read this you dont wanna tell me, n jeff is like i already told u? how did i not tell you? and he actually legit told the interrogator upfront you guys are tryin to get. aconfession and u aint getting it coz i did nothing. lol....
0 likesremember folks: you do not have to talk during an interrogation. first, ask if you are under arrest; if so, ask for a lawyer and dont talk until you get one. if not, ask if you are free to go. repeat as many times as necessary until you have representation or are released.
103 likes“You playing good cop?”
131 likes“Usually I’m the prick”
“You look like a prick”
The officer: 👁👄👁
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Lol
1 likeOof lmao
0 likesAs a recovering heroin addict I’m just here to express my support and admiration for this extremely capable individual stuck chasing the dragon, my heart goes out to ya brother, hope you’re always well.
17 likesThis just shows you how powerless the police are when a suspect refuses to speak, never speak to the police
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this (should be) only applies to actual innocent ppl right
0 likes@Kuro Styx no, to everyone!
6 likesWhen Jeff said “You look like a prick.” He cut that interrogators confidence by 80% minimum.
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It was a very heavy 80% combo by jeff he wiped the floor with the investigators
887 likesAt that moment I realized this isn't Jeff's first rodeo! He's so done with all the shit he's went through
578 likes@Sarcastimation HEROIN. NOT METH. BIIIIIIG DIFFERENCE.
309 likesMETH CAUSES MENTAL PSYCHOSIS. HEROIN CAUSES APATHY. 20+ YEARS OF SHOOTING DOPE DAILY, IM 39 Y/0.
@Sarcastimation heroin and meth are pretty different overall but k
126 likes@Sarcastimation Knowing the difference between two drugs isn't exactly some deep and nasty secret. This is grade school health education type shit my dude.
341 likes@Sarcastimation medics, doctors, surgeons and many many other educated people know that there is a very distinct difference between those two substances.. you are calling someone else a cretin because they have more knowledge than you... not a good look on your part at all and is a testament to your lack of intelligence..
235 likes@Sarcastimation Explain why that is gross to know the difference? You don't need to be an addict to know this and it's not gross. You're just a child. So can you please explain why that is gross to know?
108 likes@Sarcastimation It's common knowledge that heroin is an opiate that causes a sedated euphoria and "nodding off"/that the withdrawal is like a terrible flu, while meth is a stimulant that keeps you up for days "tweaking"/the withdrawal is marked by depression and fatigue. I'll never do either (or any hard drugs for that matter) and know that. Being educated on that doesn't make u a low-life
111 likes@Sarcastimation so people like doctors or generally anyone in the medical field?
36 likes@Sarcastimation god forbid someone you are close to ever has a injury and gets put on pain meds. You'd be surprised how many people start out with prescribed pain meds and end up on heroin. You should change your views. It could be someone close to you or related to you. Most people don't just wander into the city and buy dope because they are curious.
65 likes@Detroit FettyGhost I hope you turn your life around.. you're still young
10 likes@Sarcastimation nope you skipped the part where everyone said doctors, emts, and people with common sense know the difference not just “junkies” and now you’re making up things. You basically just said “I don’t know something and refuse to learn about it because I’m ignorant” 😂😂 take 2 champ, sit this one out.
46 likesEveryone needs to leave sarcastimation alone. He’s obviously like 9 years old.
29 likes@Sarcastimation clean your desktop, bucko!
7 likes@Sarcastimation There's nothing wrong with admitting you are wrong. Being stubborn is just making you look more and more dumb.
34 likesI understand it doesn't feel great to get corrected by someone else so you instinctively want to defend yourself, but if you're wrong, then you are wrong. Make it easier on yourself.
@Sarcastimation you're not very good at this.
23 likesLol if thats all it took to put a huge dent in his confidence then he probably shouldn't be an interrogator
0 likesDetective - used good cop routine
4 likesItz not very effective
@Kert Ralph Olivar or police officers
0 likes@Ethan Cadle if you think a cops confidence level is so frangle that a junkie not being nice will damage it, then you don't know many cops.
2 likesThe other 20% was lost from his leg being crossed and on the table.
1 like@Sarcastimation I think I'm just going to go by your name and assume that you're a troll
7 likesJeff used the “You look like a prick technique”
7 likes@Sarcastimation L
3 likesMost people get fearful and docile in cuffs and shackles while being held at gunpoint by authorities. Jeff on the other hand seems to get upset and defensive. 🤔
2 likes@Sarcastimation Assuming that education is equal to drug use is a batshit false dichotomy. You can know about drugs and not be a user. What, do you think pharmacists are all drug addicts? And don’t even get me started on surgeons!
5 likes@Detroit FettyGhost Isn't it amazing how society is fed opiates stronger than heroine in large quantity so that even their grandparents are on large doses yet they still seem to ignorantly put it in the same category with anything that a person might use to cope? Using Heroine then you may as well be sniffing gas and doing PCP. 🤣
2 likes@Sarcastimation Did you know that Heroine was a brand name drug made by Bayer sold over the counter at one point? It is where the name came from. It is slightly more powerful than morphine and not near as powerful as most prescribed opiods that are used today. Did you know that it comes from a plant? The point I'm making is that not all foods and drugs are the same. In fact, there are wild plants out there that are completely legal that will cause people serious delirium if not death when consumed and people do.
4 likes@イカの嵐 (Storm Squid) he’s 100% a child. A VERY special child.
2 likes@Sarcastimation racist and looks down upon people who know simple information about drugs? damn ben shapiro really got you in his hooks huh
20 likes@Sarcastimation everyone isa nobody to somebody.
1 likeDude....@Sarcastimation is a prime example of how the internet is eroding this generations brain. No communication skills and they swear up and down that they’re invincible till someone calls their phone and leaves their address in a voicemail. The internet is growing morons daily nowadays.
12 likesOMG what an idiot interrogator. Right after he says “you have the right to remain silent” then demands he say “yes or no.”
3 likes@Dr. Bright There is nothing in your comment that is new information to me. I've done them all but for oxymorphone, Opana. I stand by what I said. Not gonna waste more time here. Have a good one.
1 like@Sarcastimation You mean it hurts for you to think. 🤣
0 likes@HagonIsTheMan Please point to anything I said that at all implies drug use. If anything it was implied, almost outright stated, that any knowledge I have on the subject is from watching TV. Not only that, you're trying real hard to defend a racist. Maybe rethink your argument.
5 likesEdit: Nevermind. You're homophobic, I'm wasting my time here.
@Dr. Bright I grew up as a "special" child, so being "special" isn't an excuse.
6 likes@Sarcastimation it literally takes a google search my guy. You learn it in 7th grade health class.
8 likes@Detroit FettyGhost Sorry for those decades of lost time. Just don't forget to turn off caps lock, it doesn't really do you any favors no matter what way you slice your pie
3 likes@Extra Crispy Your right I'm sorry. I just get feeling so strongly I feel like the caps lock conveys it when in reality it just makes it less fun to read. Thank u for your kind words. Much love. Hugs and good days ahead to u.
3 likes@HagonIsTheMan You're really bad at using correct grammar, and really good and making assumptions. Good take, big brain.
1 like@HagonIsTheMan cope lib
1 likeAll these cringy kids arguing is funny
3 likes@Sarcastimation damn either ur like 14 or 60… and a bad human
4 likes@Sarcastimation you are while YouTube kids exist. Go comment on those videos LMAO
1 like@HagonIsTheMan hey! You didn’t need to get on a second account for us to know who you are, Sarcastimation
6 likes@infinite vacation dude… he’s clearly a republican just based on his awful personality kadnsmfjfjjffn how u get confused and say lib-
2 likes@Kingof Grim for no reason at all
0 likes@Sarcastimation tbh not doubting it, you seem like the type to date someone like that
1 like@HagonIsTheMan I mean… it looks that way? LMAO you’re acting just like the (self proclaimed) child for no reason other than to try and be annoying? Rough sorry for whatever is going on
2 likes@-Lelouche- agreed
0 likes@Kingof Grim caught him red handed
1 like@Sarcastimation why, what did she say?
1 like@Detroit FettyGhost Same to you, man. I wish you good luck in the days ahead, you know?
1 like@Sarcastimation Well, you do you, not gonna judge. Since you get pleasure from people shitting on you, wish you all the best. Can’t blame you for doing what makes you happy.
4 likesI don’t really care enough to try to convince you that you’re wrong. If you think you’re right, I’m too lazy to change your mind lmao.
@Sarcastimation wow what a great insult, i was extremely offended
1 like🍿 watching everyone beat knowledge into this sarcastimation kid's head
3 likesOof
0 likes@Sarcastimation "I refuse to know about the things I think are scary and icky" is not a good way to go through life. The things you learn will become a lot less scary.
2 likes@12 34 One of the most valuable lessons I learned as a kid was to not act like I knew what I was talking about when I was a clueless little brat.
1 likeWhen telling someone they look like a prick you ain’t calling them ugly he just look mean/stuck up
3 likes@Sarcastimation bruh have you not had 8th grade health?
0 likes@Sarcastimation So you don't like doctors?
0 likes@Sarcastimation I think insults like that land even harder coming from junkies. Think about it. If he was some wealthy business guy wearing a suit, he would come off as arrogant, belittling, and entitled. But since it's from the "lower end", it comes off as genuine, earnest, and quite frankly, bad ass. He's a junkie with very little power and his little "stick it to the man" is quite embolden and awe-inspiring. It's why people find this so endearing. But at the end of the day, humor is subjective, so feel free to have a differing opinion.
1 like@Sarcastimation by the looks of it ur already taking drugs but ok.
0 likes@Sarcastimation this attitude dehumanizes people and perpetuates the problem
0 likes@Sarcastimation quick question, do you need to be a cancer patient to study/know about cancer?
0 likes@Sarcastimation for someone who's obsessed with moms, I can see you weren't raised by one 💀
0 likes@Sarcastimation now we bringing up genders? what's next, politics? abortion?
1 like@Sarcastimation I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH DRUG ABUSE >:((((((((((((((((((
1 likecry about it perma virgin
@Sarcastimation “I learned your mom in 7th grade” hah funny I slept with mom joke, if only it made sense.
0 likes@Sarcastimation technically I’m not “still here” I just got here.
0 likes@Sarcastimation to be fair you are being a troll, not defending yourself, there’s a difference
2 likesFrfr
0 likes1hundred
0 likeswhy did i read the replies
0 likesI’m sure they get called worse daily
1 likeI doubt it…the junky sitting in a Tyvec suit with handcuffs on being interrogated for a major felony…doesn’t induce a lot of of admiration, fear or sadness in these detectives I would imagine. Nor would it “cut his confidence” ? Coming from that? Nahhh…
0 likes@HagonIsTheMan Second account?
0 likes@Q.ColdEST he left the building. Lol. Wish I had got here earlier.
1 like@TheHorseWife 98% of this country should have done that over a decade ago, and we wouldn't be watching the Greatest Country being unplugged. In fact, there was quite a few did the research for everyone, but people didn't look.
0 likes@Etnor Einfield he did make it easy, he deleted and split. The manly way out. Lol
0 likeslmfaoooo
0 likes.
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesOh right, because cops never hear insults and care about what people think of them so much that it would affect most of his self-perception.
0 likesFuckin Legendary!
0 likesHaha 😂
0 likes@Walter Clements Thanks for the info 👍
1 like😂😂😂😂
0 likesI was looking for this comment
0 likesARMOR REDUCTION 20%
1 likeyeah, that prick detective left the room and never came back. That was a very short performance.
0 likes@James Kizon he rlly deleted all his comments lmao
0 likes😂
0 likesJeff wins, fatality, flawless victory!
0 likesAhahahha
0 likesJeff interrogates the investigators confidence they don’t interrogate him
0 likes"THIS... is Jeff."
84 likesThis is one of my absolute favorite JCS episodes, and that is my favorite line from the narrator. Ever.
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Jeff
0 likesI've done this before while being questioned for an alleged counterfeit charge. They could only hold me for 24 hrs, so I went up there, they pulled me out, I got 2 cigarettes and a soda out the detective, he tries walking in with a big folder of "evidence" and says he has me dead to rights, told him I'm not saying nothing, not signing nothing, put me back in my cell, he got in my face screaming that he was going to nail me and have me carted off to county in the morning, and that I was a heroin addict blah blah blah I said do what you got to do, in the meantime put me back in my cell. I was released next morning, walked out that bitch smiling.
3 likesBeing addicted to herion (and crack cocaine in my case) for 7 years I will explain to the best of my abilities. At first it was because it was cheaper than getting pain pills (lortab, percaset, roxies, opana etc) and the feeling to me was im floating in mid-air, thrilling and full of energy- wow I can do anything. This is helping me excel at work and at home. Im the one everyone calls on at work because I get shit done, my house is impeccably clean. Nothing bothers me- my emotions are in check. I started off only doing a half of a tenth at a time (0.05 grams, a blunt of weed is usually 1.0 grams for those who dont know) and it was every other day. But then I slowly started depending on it so I could do daily things and I recognized that but liked what it helped me achieve. Then after all of that I was doing it just so I wasnt sick, to feel normal and was running out of money a lot faster and couldnt work the days I was in withdrawals so in turn made less money to keep me well daily. At the time a tenth was 20$ but I was doing 0.8 of a gram a day and had to do that much a day to feel like doing shit. I felt like I needed it to be normal and on top of all of that was trying to take care of a toddler and newborn.. I was drowning in debt, betrayed those I love, disappointed at myself and believed I wasnt gonna live much longer due to people cutting it with fentanyl but no longer cared because I believed I deserved it. No body in my family except my older brother has been addicted to drugs and hes been in prison all my life except for 4 or 5 years (im 27) so nobody understood my situation and felt more alone than ever. But ive been clean for about 2yrs and I never wanna go through that shit again.
61 likesHope that helps someone rather in understanding or just in curiousity.
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probably doesn't mean much from a stranger but congrats on 2 years
0 likes@v6 its the thought that counts lol im the same way and truly enjoy seeing others succeed
1 likedidnt ask?
1 like@metal faced jax Did you
0 likesThanks for sharing, nobody asked tho
0 likes@thejose970 I dont see why that matters. People can wonder out of curiosity on drug addicts. I know I felt alone because none of my family understood. If im able to help one person directly or indirectly then I dont care if anyone asked or not. Everyones free to share
1 likeSounds like undiagnosed ADHD to me. My meds are a stimulant and are the only reason I pass school. The feeling you describe seems like how I feel on my medication, that you have finally unlocked the ability to do things.
0 likes@metal faced jax nobody asked If you asked
0 likes@thejose970 read my previous comment
0 likes6:43 - every police detective will tell you this blatant lie if you end up in the interrogation room.
33 likesRemember it is NEVER “in your best interest” to talk to the police.
Jeff is likeable because he genuinely comes across like he knows whats what. hes not trying to be manipulative or to seem like a victim. Hes standing up for himself while remaining polite and amicable. All while going through withdrawal.
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That and people inherently dislike when they see people in authority try to trick or manipulate people. I think most people have a pretty strong negative reaction when they see actual police interrogations. We have an idea of how these things should go and watching multiple guys come in and straight up lie to a guy that they have had chained up for hours doesn't sit well with us. The guy asked for a lawyer hours ago and they are still playing musical cops with him just hoping to break him down and get a confession.
299 likes@dash4800 exactly. You see other folk who are guilty doing the whole poor-me act or trying to act crazy or like theyre some sort of dangerous supervillain bollocks... and the police are all pussyfooted around them. But Jeff is actually co-operating within his rights and they just use that as an oppertunity to dog-pile onto him.
121 likesBoth know its a game and Jeff is not in mood to play
54 likesJeff is likeable since we don't know if the charges are valid or not. If it was proven that he actually did it then he won't be so likeable anymore
23 likes@kartikeya tiwari i disagree. Even in cases where we strongly suspect that the person is guilty we tend to dislike the way interrogations are run. Like I said above, we want our cops to be honest and straight forward. Its just like when we see traffic stop videos. We know the guy was likely speeding or something, but we also know that the cop wants to try to find something else to stack on top of it. So when we see a traffic stop where the cop starts lying to the driver about his rights or tries to manipulate him to incriminate himself we get irritated and insist that he refuse to answer questions. Cops are trained to manipulate people. And most people aren't prepared to deal with it. So when we see someone who can call them out, guilty or not, they instantly become likeable.
39 likes@kartikeya tiwari Disagree, I'd still hold my current position on him. I don't like him as a friend, I like that he understood the process and turned on their heads so damn effectively it earned my respect. If he had murdered people, I'd agree with you because it would most likely mean he's a psycho or sociopath, but here he's just a junkie who knows to keep his mouth shut unless he's presented with a wicked burn opportunity that doesn't incriminate him.
20 likes@15thobserver thats the point, we DONT KNOW if he committed the crime he was being asked about. This is why he is "likeable"
1 likeChange the situation, imagine if u were witnessing the interrogation of a man who has committed a violent armed bank robbery .... would you be inspired by his ability to fool the police?
@kartikeya tiwari This is a false statement as I DO KNOW that according to state records he did not commit the crime. The man has a youtube account and is very much not in jail and was never convicted. So I don't really have to do your little 'what if' game because thats not reality. The fantasy of 'what if' is just something to do when you're bored if you already know the legitimate outcome.
19 likes@15thobserver that just strengthens my point, I hope u realize that. If someone either doesn't know if he committed a crime or not or knows that he didn't commit the crime then its way easier to like him.
3 likesIf it was the trial of a known killer which was being shown retroactively, then he won't be likeable
@dash4800 stop saying "we", you're speaking about a minority. Most people don't have an issue with it
2 likes"All while going through withdrawl"
3 likesPlus if Jeff did do this it seems like he'd just admit it, he seems pretty straightforward
0 likes"while remaining polite and amicable"
2 likes"you look like a prick"
well maybe miles away from being polite, but other than that i agree
2 likes@kartikeya tiwari yes
0 likesYou are completely wrong. Maybe thats the allure of him. He is an inmate, product of the prison system and highly manipulative. He is not owning victim, but claiming the "system" is against him. Maybe thats what people relate to, is the feeling that we are up against "the Man" in a game we likely will never win. But make no mistake, I would bet good money is not only guilt of this crime, but others he has not yet been connected to. His body language alone is enough to give that away. But his talk like an inmate is a dead ringer.
0 likesHe's not very polite tho
0 likesLikeable is a bit of a stretch dude...
0 likes@Wesley Hobbs Ah yes, the classic YouTube "body language expert."
5 likes"Where do you get your methadone from?" "I don't get methadone I get heroin." is a line from a movie but that movie was Jeff and the real life.
1 like@Robert Campbell I am not, but I have 20+ years dealing and working with inmates.
0 likes@Laurin Grace true if you've been robbed by someone like Jeff he's not so likeable having said that I hope he's sober and doing well. But likeable is a stretch..
1 like@dash4800 these were not good investors because they didnt even fallow the rights of the person and not a cops are like this
1 like@Wesley Hobbs police man over here
0 likeslikeable? … criminal
0 likes@Kylie Hall yep
0 likesI know I'm at my politest when I'm calling someone a prick.
0 likes@Matthew Sheridan did you do a survey? How do you know what the majority thinks?
0 likesHe's only at the beginning of withdrawal here, if he was in the full swing of w/d he'd be all over that room, wouldn't even begin to entertain their questions and wouldn't want a candy bar or a coke.
0 likesThe moment Jeff asked for a lawyer, that interview should have been terminated. His rights have not been respected and he's being taken advantage of by the interviewer because they know he is starting to withdraw, so a medic should also have been called. Shameful abuse of his human rights.
40 likesIt cracks me up that he knows his rights so well! It’s delightful! Everybody should remember their rights like Jeff!
37 likesThe amount of people who dont do this is staggering. Dont talk, get a lawyer. I also like how Jeff is both polite and insulting at the same time.
10 likesThank you for everything Jimmy x you changed my life & thank you for keeping this video around for all to see. We all stand with you
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The absolute mad lad, hope you're doing ok man
8 likesThis guy watched "Don't Talk to the Police" video, it was effective.
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It’s hard to do. Imagine being in a situation like that, having anxiety and spilling your guts out to a cop. Then consider this religion we have in America of worshipping police and shows like law and order portraying cops as human and caring individuals, it’s very unlikely that a lot of people would refuse to talk to cops because they’re brainwashed into thinking that these pigs have any decency or humanity. Instead it’s important to understand that all cops are bastards and to never talk to one especially when you’re innocent.
237 likes@Adel Fazelrahman not all, but it's safer to err on the side of caution than to end up wrongfully imprisoned for 10 years.
192 likesHe got years. Jim was wrong in the video
8 likes@Adel Fazelrahman their job while interrogating you is to find you guilty, even when you’re not. This is proven time and time again. Most cops are good people, but when their entire purpose of talking to you is to take away your freedom then you should shut the hell up around them
90 likes@bruh Seriously no it’s not
70 likes@bethany B yea it is your judging people without giving them a chance
13 likes@dont care 🙌
2 likesIt really doesn’t matter what your opinion on cops is. Even a good guy can falsely imprison someone, even if they don’t mean to. If they think you’re guilty they’ll do anything to get a confession or some kind of evidence against you. And that’s fine, that’s their job. But that’s why you never, ever, talk to the police without a lawyer present. Because even if you’re innocent, you’ll misremember something, or say something wrong in the heat of the moment and boom, it will now be used against you in court. There’s a great talk from a professor (and a cop) on YouTube, who will explain that better than I ever can, it’s called „Don’t talk to the police“.
29 likesBut to sum it up, nothing you can say during an investigation will ever help, while anything can (and will) come back to hurt you. Just don’t do it.
@dont care lol DARE. The lies around marijuana abound group? The ones that told us that drug dealers would lace a $20 drug with a $100 drug and not mark the price up? Yeah, they lied to you and here you are talking about how they built a bind of trust with you.
13 likesFunny how it’s a response to being brainwashed by the cops and you demonstrate how you were.
@Huskylover816 Naa, he's a free man. He's got a YouTube and Patreon, and he's posted recently, so he's definitely not in jail.
4 likes@bruh Seriously Giving them a chance to do what, exactly? If the police are interrogating you, it's never, ever for your benefit, regardless of what they tell you. "We just want to eliminate you as a suspect" - do you even watch the videos on this channel?
15 likesSomeone commented above in reference to a video from a lawyer and a cop called "don't talk to the police" - both the lawyer AND the cop agree that talking to the police will never help you, it can only hurt you. Their job is not to find you innocent or guilty, it's to collect evidence for trial.
The only things you should ever say when being questioned by police are "am I being detained" (can I leave) and "I want a lawyer".
It's not about judging them, it's about understanding why they're asking you questions, and that is NOT to help you, EVER.
Don't take my word for it, ask a lawyer. Hell, if you have cops in your family or social group that you trust, ask THEM. They'll tell you the same thing - you should never, ever talk to police without a lawyer, because it can only harm you. If you don't have a lawyer or cop you can trust, go watch that video from the lawyer and cop, they explain in excellent detail why it's never a good idea, ESPECIALLY if you're innocent. It might just save your freedom someday.
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1 like@xmisterpilgrimx He posted a video correcting Jim that he was arrested, that is how I know.
0 likes@bruh Seriously It's not the job of black people to shoot people. It's the job of the police to find you guilty even if you aren't. Very bad comparison. I guess if you wanted a comparison of something that fit your narrative that not all police are out to get you would be something like "Don't trust fast food employees because they can spit in your food." But honestly all police may not be out to get you, but it is their job to find you guilty. They aren't our friends. When they are interrogating us what we say and do will be used against us in the court of law. Notice the wording of against and not for us in the court of law. They state it in plain view. If I say nothing but the truth and they find one way to pin the crime on me in my statement it will be used against me and I will be facing time behind bars for telling the truth. My best option is to say nothing. Even if I know the culprit, even if I could 100% recall everything perfectly and put the culprit at the scene of the crime, I could still be found guilty.
11 likes@Adel Fazelrahman When someone is in a position where they could get a promotion by getting you locked up for a very long time, your best approach is to assume they're bastards. It also doesn't help that some cops are indeed bastards. I'm friends with a few ex-cops and they'd be the 1st to corroborate that fact.
9 likes@Tyler Rainsi mean not really they aren't against you as there not putting a gun to your head making you commit a crime and yes it's there job to figure out if you committed a crime and again if your there 99% you probably deserved it
0 likes@bruh Seriously so if a crime happens around me I deserve to be treated like the criminal that committed it? Yikes man yikes. Also police are known to force false confessions as well. So ya they do sometimes put a gun (could be literally or a metaphorical gun) to your head and make you commit a crime.
8 likes@Tyler Rains again if you didn't do it you'll be through the system if you did do it then yes you would deserve it
0 likes@bruh Seriously Ya let's ignore all the falsely imprisoned innocent people. I'm sure they deserve being in prison for some reason or another cause the police can do no wrong.
12 likes@Tyler Rains again do you know the odds of you being wrongly convicted? Less than 1% of the entire prison population is suspected of being wrongly convicted. But hey with your logic we shouldn't take the 1% risk and should let rapists and murderers roam free.
0 likes@bruh Seriously It's estimated that 1% are wrongly convicted no real solid evidence that it's above or below 1% just estimated. And it's better to not take that risk when you can wait, get a lawyer that will help you and then you and your lawyer can talk to the police to put the real criminal behind bars. We can twist your words and say you believe letting the "1%" of true criminals roam free and wild because you don't believe in going through the true process of getting a lawyer then talking to the police after.
2 likes@bruh Seriously No one is suggesting we let ANYONE walk free. The only thing people are saying is that it's always bad to be questioned by police without a lawyer, because they are NOT your friends, and the only reason they're questioning you is to get information to use against you.
10 likesI posted a detailed explanation above, but you chose not to reply to that, presumably because there was nothing you could try to twist to your bootlicking narrative.
Any lawyer and any cop that cares about you (like a family friend) will tell you not to talk to the police. There is no way it will improve your situation, and can only make things worse, ESPECIALLY if you're innocent.
I really advise you to search for "don't talk to the police" here on YouTube, that video, from a lawyer and a cop, explains this in detail.
This is not up for debate, talking to police without legal counsel is a bad idea and could put you in a legally actionable position regardless of your innocence or good intentions. It doesn't matter what the probability is that an innocent person will get falsely convicted - ANY chance of that is far too dangerous. There is no benefit, only risk.
If, after having been told this, you still choose to talk to police while being questioned, you are a fool for thinking you know better than legal professionals, and deserve anything that might happen.
@Huskylover816 He has a YouTube channel now, I don't think he's in the prison now.
6 likes@Pete https://youtu.be/55D4C8i_ni8 he went for two years. He is out now. Here is where he stated that
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1 likenah. he read a book describing a heinous crime and that included an example of the john reid technique in use. THEN he ran across dont talk to the police. id put money on it. hes jonesing and still he gets the meaning.
0 likes@Operation Lull see the thing is police in shows will be portrayed as far more aggressive and rough than in real life as they will sweet talk you into spilling your guts
0 likesThat video is literally the “up next in 3…2…1”
0 likes@Adel Fazelrahman When it comes down to being arrested and questioned, if you don't think that way, then you will probably end up talking to them instead of demanding your right to a lawyer. Most people think if they're innocent, then they are safe to talk. They don't understand how they can be screwed from something as simple as stating they were somewhere at a certain time, and maybe they are off by even 15 minutes and depending on the charge, that 15 minutes could make a difference. But now they are on the record as saying whatever they did and didn't realize how important it was to the charge. That's why you never say a word. I don't know why people don't get this, especially when they tell you stupid things like " just tell us what happened and you can be out of here in an hour", for example. They stop thinking about the fact they were arrested in the first place.
3 likes@bruh Seriously Not the same at all. You can not trust any cop who says that if you just tell him what happened, you can be on your way out the door in a half an hour. Your innocence is not the point, it is locking yourself into a statement that will be on the record, and if you innocently say anything that can be somehow tied to whatever you're charged with, then you have unknowingly screwed yourself. You don't know the details of the incident you got charged with, but of course they do. That is why you NEVER give a statement, and demand your right to a lawyer. No matter how easy the question may seem, you have to keep your mouth shut. What is it about this people don't get?
3 likes@dont care That's all great, but has absolutely nothing to do with being interrogated. Your right is to keep quiet and ask for a lawyer. If you don't remember this and realize why it's so important, then, oh well. You had better not forget that you were arrested in the first place at that point.
2 likes@dont care Well, I guess it's not obvious to many. Some think it's alright to talk to the "nice" cops.
1 like@Fort hear, hear. Never talk to the cops without a lawyer. They are out to get you.
2 likes@Operation Lull well said! Couldn't agree more
0 likes@Operation Lull I sure hope you have to reply on the police to save you some day.
0 likes@Adel Fazelrahman most of them, they are there for the system not for you
0 likeswright, that you?
0 likes@bruh Seriously chances are good.
0 likes@Huskylover816 no he didn’t , he has social media lol
0 likes@Lily Massey I posted a link to the video where he said it? It has 3 likes. He was in prison, he's out now. That's what he said....
0 likes@Adel Fazelrahman without a doubt
0 likes@xmisterpilgrimx Ur too cool 💕
0 likesAbout 8 minutes into this video I got up, went to the fridge, and got a coke without even realizing I was doing it until i sat back down. Well played, Jeff.
56 likesI've watched this video multiple times and I am always impressed by how well Jeff handles these cops. Of course I support law enforcement and understand the pressures they operate under but to see a citizen who a) knows his rights and b) knows how to deal with manipulative cops is gratifying
9 likesJeff is a force of nature. He breaks all the standard tactics used in investigative procedure.
13 likesi am so glad that jeff stood his ground and never gave the cops an ounce of evidence or anything that could backfire against him! what an absolute legend, i hope he's doing well nowadays!
12 likes“playing good cop?”
6618 likes“no, usually i’m the prick.”
“you look like a prick.”
WHAT A CHAMP
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Pure gold. Got me every time I hear this conversation. He said "play" as there's no such thing as a "good" cop in the interrogation room! And that cop played along makes it funnier.
114 likesAgreeing with the cop whilst simultaneously insulting him. Nice
37 likesPerfect set up
8 likesHe has a YT channel check out JCS comment on this vido
1 likeI died at that
7 likesYES! I immediately developed a soft spot for him just for that comment. Scrolled down and lo and behold, there are others who value wit :D
6 likestimestamp pretty pretty please?
0 likes@M Pretty early, but he shouldve said "that (being a prick) didnt work out for you, did it"
1 like@M About 1.30 in, though I don't get why you wouldn't just watch the video seeing as you're here now. Might need to start a little earlier for context anyway.
1 like@Xerxes BFG thank you! i missed it when i was watching the first time, to clarify
0 likes@M Ahhh, that makes more sense. I was wondering who on earth would ask for a timestamp for a 14 min video they clearly didn't actually wanna watch ahah. Glad I could help anyway :)
0 likesYes !!!!! Lol
0 likestime stamp?
0 likeslmao he had some many good responses to those pigs.
0 likes@Stinkycat313 share link brah
0 likesCop: You have the right to remain silent.
30 likesJeff: immediately stonewalls and falls silent.
Cop: doesn’t understand why he’s not talking.
"While many of us can't relate to the feeling of being addicted to heroin for well over a decade, we can certainly understand the feeling of sadness" Is possibly my favorite youtube quote of all time
35 likesAs an on and off, currently ex-addict, it hurts me to see someone going through what I went through multiple times before I was even an adult. The desperate lengths an addiction makes you go to are so painful to reflect on. I really hope Jeff here managed to get his life back on track. I’d admire anyone who manages that
2 likesYou left out something major but something about an anti-hero that makes them such underdogs and garner support is, as The Nostalgia Critic says, they are able to act in socially unacceptable ways that we want to (but are unable to). It's not just the idea of redemption, but that they allow some of our own need for catharsis to be expressed through their assholery. We repress it because we'll be ridiculed otherwise. Ever wanted to yell at a kid for doing annoying kid things? Well, an antihero can do that for you. You can see it in the way Jeff is so firmly curt in his responses when he isn't being totally unresponsive. He also has the occasional sarcastic or snarky remark which definitely earns him some relatability points.
9 likesThis guy won against the mind games and stood his ground while going through heroin withdrawal. Impressive.
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He’s had a lot of practice with both
515 likesIm an x junky buy have stayed out pf the system mostly as an adult. On Suboxone now. He did hella good and was probably sick af when he gets out
398 likesMost junkies ive known throughout my life where very brilliant minds... sadly opted for very bad decisions...
442 likesthis dude is a fucking legend if he did rob the dude so be it lmfaio
114 likesAfter being released, he probably will burglarize the interrogator’s home.
67 likesHe didn't win. He just lost enough times before this to know not to play at all.
156 likes@Gregory Gross sub turned me to a zombie bro, I want off it so bad and I feel like it was a huge mistake
19 likes@Daniel Gregson beats getting high and the misery that active addiction brings. Hang in there man
55 likes@Mista Don't Play What it do, Project Pat?
6 likes@Mista Don't Play I only ever did pills, never heroin. I still think I shoulda kicked and went through a few days of sick instead of this shit. It sucks big time and I’m not even the same person, but you might be right. I still need off this shit cuz I’m still chained to it like any addiction, plus it completely took the fun out of life
32 likes@# lakewood20 Which actually makes it harder. The more you know about opioid withdrawal, the worse it tends to get, at least, assuming you’re as unprepared as you’d be in a Georgia county jail cell.
13 likesFYI, for anyone who needs a list, the things you want to buy if you’re in withdrawal - assuming you can’t just buy more opioids to taper - are:
Kratom (kind of in the ‘more opioids’ pile but still)
Thiamine/vitamin B-1
Gatorade
Nutrient shakes/protein bars
Any sort of sedative you can get your hands on, ideally Valium, but less ideally, a muscle relaxer
A fan and/or a heating pad (ideally both)
A subscription to Tubi, Netflix, Hulu, et al.
@Daniel Gregson I’m not trying to be a contrarian here, but if you were on doctor-prescribed Suboxone, you would’ve had a lot more than just a few days to deal with. So, if anything, the buprenorphine very likely kept you from relapsing.
8 likesFull-time opioid addiction takes anywhere from one to three years to correct. It’s probably not the subs that had you feeling like a zombie but the fact that your brain doesn’t relearn how to regulate body temp, endorphin release, sympathetic reaction (sneezing, yawning, watery eyes, etc) for at least 6 months.
@Daniel Gregson same here bro, I'm fucking miserable. Finally got down from 16mg sub to 8mg but I still have no energy. Want off this shit so bad, wish I never got addicted to H and subs
5 likesHe is not going through withdrawal infact he is still high..but if he was there for another 12hrs after this then he will be in that fuckup state
8 likesWe should all try to be more like Jeff huh outstanding role model
1 like@tyloor mannnss I've had several friends who were Mensa members. High IQ's, not a lick of horse sense.
5 likesHe was just starting. Ive been there 1000 times. Believe me that was nothing.
7 likesFacts
0 likes@David Judd I’m a everything junkie...speedballer..and an alcoholic. I can addicted do anything. If I can put in a spoon I will🤷🏻♂️....well, would. 9 years clean & sober.
18 likesI grew up in gifted programs and have known people who went to MIT who wore Velcro shoes. Not even kidding. Cats that are completely socially inept and utterly void of so much as whisper of common sense. Just because you’re smart doesn’t make you good company.
@tyloor mannnss Fr🤣
0 likes@# lakewood20 FACTS
0 likes@Daniel Gregson research kratom
2 likes@Who piddled on your post toasties I have, but I can’t find anywhere if it reacts with subs?
3 likesI go through withdrawal all the time even though I’m prescribed it. I’m an addict too, I know. I do have real chronic pain but I’m physically hooked on it. The pharmacy will say I need some prior authorization or suddenly the meds I need are out of stock, the Drs office forgets to call it in even though I call 3 times a day. It’s not fun and it sucks. I’m sure heroin withdrawal is ten times worse than what I go through.
7 likes@Micheal Huff Thanks for sharing and being so transparent Michael. I'm praying for you, and will continue to. I say I'll pray, not because of spiritual arrogance, or superiority, but because as I pray for you or anyone, I see the log in my eye, as I pray for the thorn in theirs. Good day.
4 likes@Who piddled on your post toasties Kratom is just another opioid. What's the point. I went from sub to kratom and it was brutal. I was on kratom for 5+ years. Getting off kratom was just as bad as any other opiate withdrawal. Not as intense, but the insomnia of paws lasted for months.
12 likesPeople stop maintaining or switching opiates. If you want to get off opiates, take six months of clean time and stop expecting yourself to get better faster than that. Prioritize sleep, get hard cardio every fucking morning, get direct sunlight on your skin as much as possible, do sauna and cold showers daily, do breathwork.
At the end of that six months you will be higher than you've ever been in your life. All the time.
@tyloor mannnss hmm no
1 like@dustin drew Kratom is not an opiate or opioid or even a synthetic. Kratom is an evergreen that contains the stimulant mitragynine and narcotic 7-hydroxymitraginine.
4 likes@Micheal Huff Which are opioid receptor agonist. What's your point.
5 likesThe anti hero
0 likes@Boris Chang lol
0 likes@Daniel Gregson It's best to stay on it for a short period of time, they left me on it for years and I didn't realize the long term effects it was having on me and for every year you're on it that feeling will follow you for about an equal amount of time.
2 likes@Peter Griffin could be they just wanted to suppress their thoughts.
1 like@dustin drew 6 months? Was that 6 months of mental hell or physical shit too?
2 likes@Daniel Gregson
2 likesChemical handcuffs. I always had way more luck with methadone, fucking hated Suboxone. At least they're both cheaper, that's the only good thing about them.
@Christopher Hammond how long after taking subs before you could try something else? Did you have to go in full withdrawal?
1 like@Daniel Gregson
2 likesNah. I think it's a pretty easy rollover, from what I remember it's only the other way around that fucks you up. You can still use on Suboxone but you can't take Suboxone until you're withdrawing.
@Christopher Hammond wow wtf 😳 if I would have know that 2 years ago smh thanks for the info brother, I’m looking for the best way out. I’m hoping Kratom will work
5 likes@Daniel Gregson
4 likesYeah, they don't make it all very clear, do they? Good luck with that, it's not easy but it has to be done at some point.
@Christopher Hammond thank you man. Imagine how much you might have just changed my life
4 likes@Daniel Gregson
2 likesNo worries, mate. Let me know how you get on and good luck.
@Daniel Gregson kratom
1 like@Daniel Gregson Idk if this was already said but kratom helps you get off all the other big pharma traps, at least it did me. 🙏 🛡
2 likesI think going through withdrawal had something to do with his beating the mind games
0 likes@Shane Charles that’s really interesting, actually… i read the comment you replied to and immediately thought of my brother who got hooked on heroin years ago. i always remember him being super smart and my parents constantly praising him for it, to this day my mom will mention how smart he was. not that the rest of her kids weren’t of course, just that he was exceptionally intelligent. he has anxiety though and it started off with pill popping and well, you know the rest. makes me wonder if there’s a psychology around people with high intelligence being more susceptible to addiction.
4 likes@sara Whats the inverse of the phrase ignorance is bliss? Knowledge is anxiety inducing and depressing. Thats why i used the phrase "soothe the ol supercomputer" because our minds race with many problems other peopel dont even consider i assume. My brother would pass out every night in 5-10 minutes. It would take me 1-3 hours nightly because i cant stop thinking now matter how tired i am. I would space out in classes where i was way ahead as they couldn't keep my attention, and still its anxieties that would come to me. Not only this, being praised is pressure. IF your so smart, a lot is expected of you. IF you dont deliver, those anxieties and the fear of failure creep in faster and faster. Thanks for your reply, as the way you spoke about your mom reminds me of my mom(she passed 11 years ago which also crushed me of course.) Everyone in our family is smart, but i would be talked about as an anomaly similar to how you described.
6 likes@Micheal Huff Those two chemicals you just listed are OPIOIDS.
1 likeThey bind to the OPIOID receptors just like an OPIOID because it’s an OPIOID.
I was addicted to that shit for 4 years, just as bad as any other fucking opiate. You don’t have any clue what your talking about.
Kratom binds to the mu-opioid receptor 10x stronger than morphine. 7-8G of kratom is similar to 30MG of oxy.
The police know how miserable withdrawals are for heavy addicts and exploit that to try and get a confession. They know the longer they keep them in that room the worse the withdrawals will get and the more desperate they'll be to get out of it, which will lead to them saying anything they think will get that for them.
3 likes#facts
0 likes@Daniel Gregson it doesn’t man, I used Kratom to come off everything including heroin. Then quit the Kratom.
2 likes@Brandon Man did you use it to come off suboxone?
0 likes@Daniel Gregson how you doing bro, u tried the kratom?
0 likesThe withdrawals helped.
0 likeswhats a heroin withdrawal, what does it mean or do to you.
0 likesI was thinking the same thing
0 likes@Derp Y-Derp doctors prescribed me 16mg a day for taking kratom....
0 likes@Flamur Miftari Suppose you have vomiting and diarrhea, you have a strange pain all over your body, you have a feeling of cold and tension in your hands. You have a runny nose and the worst kind of depression you can't imagine. You want to cry but you can't even sit down or sleep.its the worst than any pain because you don't have just pain you are huge sad at the same time. If you endure this for three days, it will end. But about methadone and other opioids, although these symptoms are mild, last a very long time. It is almost easier to die than this torture believe me.
1 likeIt was the coke
0 likes@Mista Don't Play I'm going through it too and found this motivating. Thankyou
1 like@Derp Y-Derp whilst it differs from person to person, and that society is still uneducated when it comes to addiction, you are fairly accurate. Good comment man
0 likesDeadass bro I was just thinking this lol
0 likes@Gregory Gross going on it soon brother. I hope your doing good.
0 likesPoor dude :( imagine an alternate timeline where he Is a successful happy man
1 like@GalacticUnicorn🌌🦄 it sucks you're going true that. If you're prescribed opioids the feeling is not much different than that of heroin withdrawal, depend on what and how much you take tho. I suggest to either look up alternatives and how to detox from opiates, or find someone who actually wants to help and would would be able to accomodate your needs with a prescription that works. Hope your good tho, good luck!
0 likesIm shocked that foos get dopesic from the dope. Not to brag and i do not glorify this, but i did tar from California all the way to Louisiana. And the best and cheapest still comes from California
0 likes@Shane Charles hey man idk if you’ll read this, but you are describing me 110% the nighttime mind racing, the constant pressuring myself, the anxiety, the crippling opiate addiction (on subs for 1year now)…. I sometimes get really really depressed about the opportunities and potential that my brain fucked me out of. Literally every days feels like a battle and it’s absolutely exhausting. I still enjoy laughing tho and I love hot chocolate and talking to people so I’m not all gone just yet lol. Best of luck to ya brotha
0 likesActually, having withdrawals puts you in a kind of “survival mode” where your senses and also often even brain capabilities gets hightened… at the same time it is really distracting when its bad of course
2 likesHe is a Legend based on that alone.
0 likessome turds are impressive. This one was just on another level.
0 likes@Jacob Andersson I've found the less sub the better- once I got to 2mg I felt all my energy back. Less is more with bupe! I hope either you've gotten where you want or off my dude. Sending love and good vibes!
1 like@SinsOfSkins thanks bro. I appreciate it. I'm got down to about 6 MG a day but still feel like I have no energy or motivation. You're saying by taking less I'll feel better in the long term? The short term just sucks so bad that it's hard to cut down a significant amount.
2 likes@Boris Chang and I wish him all the luck.
0 likes@Daniel Gregson it does not. I got off Fentynal, subs, and heroin with Kratom. And it’s legal. Although, if Kratom is used long term, you will get addicted anddddd you can withdrawl from it as well. Fentynal is the worst. I was off it for 3 days and took subs and STILL went into precipitated withdrawals.
0 likesJeff
0 likesVery impressive. I couldn’t even go outside let alone do my job
0 likesMy father was only addicted to heroin for around a year and said that when he stopped he nearly threw himself out of a car going down the highway and had his hand on the door handle the entire time. This guy is a legend for keeping such composure while withdrawing and being falsely accused, so much respect.
7 likesI was in a car accident once. One of the things that came out of it was that I realised talking to the police at the scene, without a lawyer, is always, always a mistake. To anyone treading this, no matter how much you wish to 'do good' as I did, get a lawyer and say nothing to the police except what is legally required.
9 likesI like how the lighting casts a shadow over Jeff's eyes and makes him look even more badass. It definitely adds to the comedy.
13 likes“Wham bam thank you for the coke put me in back the cell” is such a good quote I want a mug that says that
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Jeff… make merch!! Everything you said was hysterical! I’m sorry for the situation. I’m 6 months off bup and getting better. I hope you are well ❤️
0 likesThis is a very intelligent man who has lost his way due to addiction. This is a perfect example of the absolute destructiveness of heroin.
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Exactly what I was thinking.
253 likesPublic execution for drug dealers. Ruining society.
155 likesIt’s also a perfect example of how amazing heroin is that if a man that’s this intelligent allows himself to “try” it and then goes back for more...and more...and more...etc.
210 likeslol where tf are you getting the “very intelligent” part from?
44 likesI use to be on meth. Deep into it. I lived up in the hills where the whole community was on it. The vast majority were pieces of crap. They were losers before the meth, and straight up villains while on it. Its not always some poor person forgotten by society. Quite the opposite. They hate society they hate order. They wanted to do whatever they felt like. They'd steal from their best friends and cheat with their wives/gfs. Be careful with all the bleeding heart assumptions.
258 likesSputnik - I cringe when I read this, because I’m sure countless black folk would have loved to experience this kind of compassion and understanding during the crack epidemic. Instead all they got were insane prison sentences.
130 likes@LCU Nash If you watch these videos of Jim, you know how difficult it is to pass an interrogation, he is intelligent for playing the officer instead of getting played by him.
151 likesAnd if you say he isn't intelligent just because he is an addict, than you should spend more time with addicts because you are far from their reality.
I used to do a lot of drugs but I am clean now. They never caused me to do other crime though. Never robbed anyone or anything. That guy is not intelligent.
22 likesI got this same vibe off the bat
3 likesi bet the high is awesome though
17 likes@Doza Ditore e Dijes you just can't convince some people man. I've met so many scumbags that tell me I'm a morally corrupt, idiot, junkie low-life because I'm an addict.
58 likesThe stigma is real, and incredibly harmful to our society.
@Sputnik Drugs should be illegal, as they can do THIS to someone intelligent... they absolutely should NOT be criminally punished on the same level as heinous crimes, unless one is a drug dealer.
33 likes@Sputnik well said. Addiction to drugs like heroin is incredibly hard to overcome and a few small scale studies in Europe seem to show that if given reasonable access to their drug of choice great many opiate addicts will be able to lead at least somewhat normal life and definitely stay out of jail. The vast majority of junkies just want to be left alone and are not violent or necessarily criminals as society sees them.
51 likes@Treefingers I know man, I have experienced it first hand. But we must push past the stigma and strive for something better.
10 likesI mean, majority of heroin users dont have big problems with a drug itself. They have problems with a law and the society which makes them disfunctional. Drug war creates addiction. People with big life trauma and mental illness are one of those who usually get addicted to heroin, and bcs its illegal majority of users are poor street people with mental illness and trauma. Morphine is the same drug as heroin, same effect, identical substance. If it was so addictive then anyone who gets morphine in the hospital while injured, would become a junkie, but thats not the case. Heroin addicts need help, we should all look up to Switzerland that did a great job about it.
36 likes@Fr1endlyf1re Drugs cause people to do terrible things to sustain their addiction. You're definitely not wrong but that is something to keep in mind
6 likesIt's also an example how fucked and awful the drug war is.
16 likes@Pub x Stompa You sold me. I'm going to try it and float into the stratosphere.
1 likeIt DOES take intelligence to be able to do an illegal substance such as heroin for a decade and not get caught
18 likesIts incredibly upstting that he will be criminalized for what is actually a health problem. You can't just decide to stop doing heroin and get better. Like why do we put human beings in cages? it will not cure him.
47 likesAntihero?
2 likesDexy Nash what do you mean . Is there a prescription for liquid heroine possible in us? I am from Germany and some addicts can legally use this by doctors. It is like methadon treatment.
5 likesAnd it’s good for the People to stay out of trouble! Maybe i misunderstood you?
@Doza Ditore e Dijes couldnt have said it better myself. thankyou
1 like@Zeke Hester :) I love what you are saying.... but putting them into cages is NOT to fix them. its to punish them... :( (and generally come out worse, unless they have some SERIOUS willpower)
12 likescongrats on 666 likes!
0 likesMy 'like' ruined the perfect 666 likes 🤣🤣
0 likes@Zeke Hester i guess the focus is not on 'doing drugs' here.. there is a big difference between doing drugs and robbing a person/a store or whatever to do drugs
2 likes@Taylor M Thats not reason for them to stay illegal, bcs when they are illegal, they come from questionable sorces which can make them more dangerous. People should have access to clean drugs so they can funtcion normally, alcohol can do this to someone intelligent just like heroin can. Legal means, control of quality, quantity, purity and dosage, which make people more safe. And education of course.
16 likesYeah I know one of those. It really sucks especially when it’s all over with a bad ending
0 likes@0verclock Higher oh how wrong you are. Do you have any idea about the numerous geniuses that have used drugs?
13 likesAnonymousAnglo Cute that you think drug dealers are responsible for opiate addiction in america lmao.
7 likes@Ma Rk well said bro.
1 like@Ching Chong I sincerely doubt anyone has ever called you an intellectual, or arrested you merely for being a racist bigot, but good job playing the eternal victim card.
6 likesI know, it's crazy how the addiction just went out and got some heroin and stuck it in his arm and said ha I've got you now. Dam that disease. You know,I cant wake up tomorrow and choose not have cancer, but I can wake up and choose not to put junk in my veins.
7 likes@Ma Rk I'm looking at San Francisco, Portland, Seattle. That's all the evidence I need to approve the state publicly executing drug dealers.
5 likes@Dante Good They also deserved the same compassion. Everyone in prison on trumped up drug charges should be released now.
3 likes@sox We don't have any evidence he did that either.
0 likesbraydenwis this has nothing to do with intelligence. God knows how many times this guy got arrested, he just don’t want to talk to detectives anymore. Give him some heroin he will start talking immediately. Like they brought him back to investigations room just for a can of coke
2 likes@Pub x Stompa Replace "amazing" with "addicting" and you'll be on your way to understanding physiological dependency.
1 likeI guess this section's veering off, but this is why America needs to expand access to medication-assisted therapies like Methadone (what he asked for in the vid) and Suboxone. Even after the opioid crisis, facilitated by Big Pharma, was declared a national emergency, little has been done to expand access and lower affordability. If government-funded therapies were available for "Jeff," it's very possible that he would not be robbing and stuck in the addiction cycle. It also means the US wouldn't be on the hook for the tens of thousands of dollars that have been spent institutionalizing this man.
8 likesThe War on Drugs was one of the biggest failures in American history, yet it's still going on today. I believe this is one of the few issues where people on the far right and the far left typically agree.
@sox Same. There are people who do drugs but still have self respect. Then there are others who don't care about anything. When you've been there, you know people are still individuals. The word Addiction has become a convenient excuse for people to think they're showing empathy and acceptance. Truth is, all druggies/addicts aren't the same and not all deserve compassion. Not all even want it. This guy didn't seem special to me.
3 likes@Snaggle Toothed This isnt Switzerland. This is the united states of America.
0 likesSputnik - watch Johann Hari on the Joe Rogan podcast. He's very fascinating and eloquent to listen to putting the same view across
0 likes@Zeke Walker I helped me. I took care of other people kids when they wouldn't. I was just as deep as they were, but still knew better. Drugs didn't make my parents abandon me, nor did they make the person give my dad a hot shot and kill him. Get off your high horse and stop judging me when you know nothing about me. I at least knew these people, not you. The word addiction can't be a blanket excuse for bad behavior. There are good and bad people on drugs. Don't lump them all together so you can feel compassionate online.
3 likesOh yeah? Like alcohol NEVER destroy and kill more than all drugs combined!
5 likesIt sucks heroin is the worst and the withdraw is nasty. people can die from heroin withdrawal that's how bad it is.
1 likeThe other hard part is having a friend you party a little bit with then all of a sudden the real shit comes to the party and then you dip out. Then every time you come around its escalated and escalated and all that's left is them screaming and you and everybody else and only hitting you up for money. And you give some. And you pay a light bill, and a water bill, and some rent. And you know you're not even helping and might even be just prolonging it. And you worry about them. And you're powerless yourself and still have to try and get on and live your life even though you owe some of your best times to them
2 likes@sox intelligent people can and do commit crimes. Some of them get away with it. What you are referring to is wisdom, not intelligence. Intelligence can help you figure out the best way to rob a house without getting caught. Wisdom helps you to see that the risk isnt worth it, or it is morally wrong, etc.
1 likeAnonymousAnglo It’s not the dealers who are at fault. It’s much bigger than that, a systematic issue with America. You should do some research on the Reagan presidency.
3 likes@Taylor M weed is absolutely a drug that can wreck people's lives. Most people can use it without it getting to that point (like most people use alcohol without wrecking their life) People that pretend weed is literally harmless are deluding themselves.
4 likesSara Stewart - Yeah. Nice sentiment. But they didn’t get it
0 likes@sox the only reason you never robbed anyone is probably because you could afford your drugs. And you did rob someone.....yourself.
1 likeThat shit is powerful! It took moving to new city away from my friends and family to kick it for me but I still have cravings and I still have few friends who might end up dead or in jail. It's a horrible idea start getting high off opioids, it never leads anywhere good.
1 likeEternal420 - Read up on crack laws and then get back to me. 1 gram of crack was penalized the same as 100 grams of coke. And crack possession was met with extremely harsh mandatory minimums specific to only that drug. Stop being ignorant
1 likebraydenwis Very intelligent????
0 likesSputnik Oh ya, here we go...
0 likes@Taylor M I don't know enough about this guy to know if he is intelligent or not but I think you all are misinterpreting smarts for experience.
2 likesThis is a man who knows not to talk thru experience.
AnonymousAnglo legalise & supervising in some way will hugely reduce the problems & costs around drugs.
1 likePortugal for one, has massively reduced its problems with drastic drug law changes.
You think the billions on the war on drugs is working ?? 😂😂
@Dante Good my dad and step father, who are white, were not treated any better during the crack epidemic. There was no understanding or compassion at all. They both were in and out of jail. In fact, my stepdad was murdered and little to no investigation was ever done and his case is still unsolved... He was buying crack when he was robbed and killed. They (cops) were also very terrible to my pregnant mother when they did the death notification... And she is white as well. But I do think that the way they handled drug users was terrible and the charges were too stiff for the crimes committed. Even severe sentences for dealers who, with time and treatment, could also live successful lives. I just wanted you to know that it wasn't only blacks as my family and other families I know suffered greatly at that time too.
3 likesLol what. Not an ounce of what he said sounded “intelligent”. He’s just used to the system and responds accordingly.
2 likes@sox I think you have to be prone to that type of behavior beforehand. I am also a former drug user and never had the compulsion to steal or sell myself for drugs. Maybe I am just lucky? But I don't think that's all... I agree 100% with you.
0 likesSputnik no one deserves help or jail?
0 likes@Alexandria 279BC Weed doesn't make people lazy, weed makes lazy people lazier. Vast majority of those I went to grad school with smoked weed to reduce stress, and none of whom are what you call degenerates...
1 likeChronic stress is highly linked to a plethora of medical problems, with heart health being the most proximate danger - it's arguably healthier to smoke to destress than to have a glass of wine. Sure everyone's heard the "one glass of wine per day is good for your heart" idiom; one joint per week is probably just as good for your heart, worse for your lungs, better for your liver. Weed is innocuous enough to be as legal as alcohol and tobacco.
quick schweezy great comment!!
0 likes@Sputnik Amen
0 likes@Dante Good I appreciate that you're taking the time to engage with people who are clearly wrong, but unless conversion occurs it's pointless. The internet will forever be a no-man's-land for smooth brains with illusory superiority to spew shit takes, including me. Fuck... I just realized that I'm a doomer.
1 like79tazman alcohol is the only drug you can die from when you are in withdrawal. Heroin is extremely painful to go through but they can’t die, even though they probably wish they could!
0 likes@jjfghj pnwf totally agree with ya.
0 likes@Taylor M You're missing the point, drugs should be decriminalised to stop putting people who are sick in prison. Drug use doesn't suddenly become more popular when it's legal, it becomes safer and if you look at Portugal, it goes down. You're never going to stop people from getting high so the least we could do is try and help.
1 like@Molly Cote Heroin is a little baby in comparison to methadone when it comes to withdrawal and unfortunately I talk from experience.
4 likes@Taylor M 75-80% of drug users do not have problems and are not disfunctional. Why should we restrict use only bcs of 20% irresponsible users?
2 likesWhen illegal you double the problem bcs now 20% that are disfuctional and have health problems also have LAW PROBLEMS.
And 75-80% that doesnt have a big drug problems also have LAW problems.
Making drugs legal would control purityy quality and quantity of the drugs. Which means, less people would overdose and actually die. Which means that legalizing is precisely responisble thing to do. Also there would be less crime, black market and drug cartels. By criminalizing we make cartels stronger. To say that heroin addict can give up whole familiy is not really a good argument bcs any addict can. But not many of them do. If you give legal access to drugs, people would cause less problems to their families and society which is percisely what Switzerland proved.
If some activity is dangerous, that doesnt mean it should be illegal. Dr. David Nutt made a perfect point by compering ecstasy to horse riding. By detaild analysis and research he proved that horse riding is more dangerouse then ecstasy. But if its dangerous that doesnt mean it should be illegal. Just look how many legal dangerous activities exist.
Just look up Switzerland, they enabled a clean drugs to people, and it works!!
Also, drug dealers dont check IDs. Some countries that legalized cannabis (Colorado), showed that usage among underaged kids has decreased. Which is huge, bcs marijuana can have a big impact on underdeveloped brain, underaged brain.
@Alexandria 279BC Exactly.
0 likes@Ma Rk Even if fentanyl was controled, by that i mean quality, quantity and dosage, it wouldnt kill as much people. People die bcs purity on the streets varies from batch to batch. Fentanyl is much more potent then heroin so people doesnt take proper dosage bcs they dont know. Sometimes you get 3 times stronger product on the street then what you expect, then boom, overdose. Also they lace heroin with fentanyl which kills a lot of people as well.
0 likesMost overdoses come from uncontroled puritiy of the product or mixing drugs like heroin with other sedatives like alcohol.
Sounds like black lives matter
0 likes@jjfghj pnwf you are smart my friend. You know about Switzerland in the 90s with their opiate program.
0 likesFr1endlyf1re I’m not judging them or you. I don’t believe anyone is inherently good or bad so I don’t think there are two separate kinds of people that do drugs. I think everyone deserves a legitimate chance to get help no matter how “bad” we think they are(mostly because money is just the best opportunity to find help and some people happen to be born with unfathomable amounts no matter how good or bad they are). And i won’t be shamed out of being a compassionate person even if I am wasting my time on people on the internet who seem to be dead set against compassion. It’s cool that you had the ability to help yourself out of a drug addiction but much like rolling your Rs and having a photographic memory, not everyone can do it and some things just can’t be taught. Like apparently I can’t teach you that people shouldn’t be shoved in a box just because we perceive them as bad.
1 like@jjfghj pnwf Good points. What happened in Switzerland.
0 likes@Bill Myers Thats not true, my brother started self medicating because he wasn't getting the treatment he needed for schizophrenia, he was real bad. He's now doing much better. We fought for him, I looked after him and didn't let him out. We used vallium and he didn't get out without me. I fed him healthy meals, started going to the gym, acted as his therapist.
0 likesThey can be helped but there is no money in truly helping a heroin addict.
@Taylor M You don't think very hard do you?
0 likes@Sputnik he wasn't arrested for drugs, ya maddie! Armed robbery should be given counselling not with the other animals?? Ahahah! I'm no fan of police or drug laws but c'mon, your bias is absurd.
0 likes@Funny is Subjective the high really isn't as great as you often hear, at some point the addiction is as much about the process of procuring it, preparing it for use, and using the the actual high. As a for instance, I was never into IV use, I preferred to snort it. I've been offered shit in a spoon ready to be sucked up through that cotton and said no before, conversely, I've seen people sick as a dog who had real trouble finding a vein, so I'd snort mine and feel better in 2 minutes, while they sat there literally for 1, sometimes 2 hours searching for good vein. But the process of setting up their work and finding a vein is as much if not more of the addiction than the actual high (I mean it is pretty great, but not ruin my life great) somehow all that combined together adds up to give u one of the worst addictions the world has ever known.
0 likes@Ching Chong George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton ran one of the biggest Cocaine cartels in the
1 likeU.S.....made Pablo Escobar look like a boy scout. Barry Seal, Mena Arkansas.....Search....Goggle
may have buried, but tons of evidence, testimony and books on this. Boys on the Tracks murdered
in Mena Arkansas when they witnessed a drug drop by plane.
@Zeke Hester actually, it would, but ketamine and vitamins in any pysch ward would do the trick. Doing nothing is the worst thing you can do in a drug epidemic.
0 likesI mean let's not execute people in the streets I was a heroin addict and sold to support my habit but I just actually spoke to my old dealer he now has 5 kids and a quit the lifestyle seeking a relationship with God.
0 likes@AnonymousAnglo bad idea... What we need is if we find someone addicted... We need not arrest them... We should force them into rehab, and allow them to save themselves... Cause it's clear that something in society has failed them... As that is how every drug addict ends up on drugs in the first place... As an escape
0 likes@AnonymousAnglo how about government funded rehab centers and low income housing/homeless shelters/clean free needle exchanges/better access to resources
1 like@J O it's called suboxone
0 likes@pinkpugginz nope, doesn't work. Look at san Francisco, portland, hell all of California.
0 likesFr1endlyf1re Well yes but even Heroin addicts think tweakers are scum of the earth, which really says a lot.
0 likes@79tazman no they really can't die from heroin withdrawal. The only drugs that can kill you from withdrawal is benzodiazepines (xanax, klonopin, valium) or alchohol. Heroin in withdrawal is actually really terrifying if u are about to be in it, or when you are, cause its takes 4 or 5 days of feeling as shitty as you ever have in your life, but can't kill you. I almost guarantee you if they got him some methadone and dangled it as a reward for talking, he would have.
0 likes@AnonymousAnglo what about them? You keep mentioning San Fran and Portland like they have adopted a legit decriminalization and network of help. They haven't. Plus, what about those 2 cities? The homeless problem is pretty bad, but they are both pretty great place with a close to normal level of addiction than anywhere else. Switzerland completely improved a very bad opiate problem by offering addicts a safe amount of the drug and a clean place to use it paid for my the healthcare system. It works incredibly well. You keep bringing up these points like the war on drugs has ever even remotely worked anywhere, and ignore the examples that have had a hugely positive effect on the issue.
1 likeIt doesn't create more addicts, would you start doing heroin tomorrow if it were legal? That's how most people feel, because the negative effects are widely known.
@AnonymousAnglo so USA isn't Switzerland, but I guess u are saying it's the phillipines? I'm confused. Did it work in the Philippines?
1 likeNobody made him take it and he chose to rob people at gunpoint. That makes you a bad person. Excuses are bullshit.
0 likesIf he is so intelligent, why did he take heroin in the first place??!
0 likesSimon Folkard There is some kind of psychological neurosis in our country that leads people to venerate losers and criminals while at the same time villainize the successful, law abiding and responsible people of this world.
1 like@Simon Folkard because the people who run and control society have made it into a depressing shitfest. People need purpose in life.
2 likes@AnonymousAnglo Well we don't all turn into junkies do we. Life is incredibly hard on a lot of people, yet most don't start pumping drugs in our veins.
0 likesAnonymousAnglo Relax
0 likesHe might have been on suboxone.. noone knows
0 likesnot really.the only problem with heroin is that it's illegal.
0 likesother than that it's a pretty helpful drug (it was even once legal in England)
@Robert Trebor It still is as medical Diamorphine.
1 like@AnonymousAnglo Yes, fully agree - like George Carlin said - have to execute few of those big pharma and banker CEOs
0 likes@Trevor Phillips why not both
0 likesWouldn't be the first time. Trust me. Intelligence can be a burden sometimes. The mind won't stop.
0 likesOr drugs, alcohol in general.
0 likes@AnonymousAnglo the war on drugs is bullshit, it is a war that never ends and just generates revenue. Executions for selling drugs? Why not start with big pharma and our own government? Ask why soldiers were protecting poppy fields in Afghanistan (opium/heroin/prescription meds) the biggest drug dealer around is your own government.
0 likes@Funny is Subjective it sure is 💗
0 likes@Dan This x1000
0 likesSheepdog Wrangler you don’t know his situation. He clearly was going through some stuff, and this could have likely used drugs to get away from that. Not excusing it, but addiction is a disease. It does no good to call them stupid.
0 likes@Lobotomytogo wait wait wait. So, if im an addict in Germany, the country will give me a script for said addiction? ( opiates)
0 likesI mean no offence or any kind of dishonor when i say this, but im going to move to Germany, Heil the deustchland! What do i need to know to become a citizen for the test Brother :)
@mc thuggin - not funny, your „ Heil „ ! .
0 likesYes, if you are addicted to heroin you can participate in a Program for legal injections or by substitution of methadon or Polamidon.
But it isn’t that easy to get the allowance for the injection program..and you have to visit the doc 1-3 times a day - the morphin isn’t a take a way thing .
You have to proof , how many other ways you tried to recover. It’s the last way .......
@Lobotomytogo what if its more, pills like roxys or percocets
0 likes@mc thuggin Than you are lost- maybe you have the luck to convince your doctor. But this is dangerous for him . The doc is only allowed to give small amounts of this pills.
0 likesbraydenwis or the destructiveness of poverty, the physical disease of addiction, and the stigma inherent therein.
0 likesFr1endlyf1re But they’re in that situation because of poverty, no? Isn’t the point that they don’t have the chance to be better, or at least that the chances they have and the frequency of said chances aren’t the same as those with more means, who have had their needs filled for generations? I think we make our own villains, and while it’s easy to blame them, it’s less easy to look in the fucking mirror.
0 likesTaylor M Poverty is the root issue here, not drugs. We tried that with alcohol. It was called prohibition. It didn’t go well. There’s this weird thing that happens when people’s basic needs are met. They don’t turn to drugs, they commit less crime, and they live happier and more fulfilled lives. I know. Surprising.
0 likesIt's an example of the criminal ways of the police!
2 likesHeroin is the best friggin' anti-depression medication ... course taken in moderation. xD Thank God for kratom!
1 likeThe core of the problem is emotional intelligence. This is why many Americans choose a vice - drugs, food, alcohol to cope. Teach a generation emotional intelligence and the world will change.
0 likes@T A exactly!
0 likesIntelligent people are more likely to become addicts. Ignorance is bliss that doesn’t need drugs
0 likesMaybe not intelligent but definitely street smart. Jeff is cool but people in the comments are idolising him a bit much imo.
2 likes@sox Whether ur drug use lead to other crime proves absolutely nothing. Except that u were blessed w/ other access to essential resources, and that despite ur experiences, u don't have much perspective.
0 likes@Molly Cote In addition to alcohol withdrawal, withdrawal from benzodiazepines (valium, klonopin, xanax) methadone, and buprenophine (in Suboxone) can be fatal, as well
0 likes@S.C. Gordon I had very little money, I worked my ass off fore the little i had instead of resorting to crime like a degenerate.
0 likeso0oAla Blaho0o - True. Wasn’t exclusively black props. But it was mostly us. That’s how it works
0 likesChing Chong what are you on about? why is your username a racist micro aggression?
0 likesIts a perfect example of poor decision making.
0 likes@Funny is Subjective it is
0 likesYou blame heroin? What got him I to that?
0 likesNone of this is intelligent
0 likes@The Frigid Ghost of Eric The Actor It was your personal choice to do heroin.....that's what happens. Make better choices.
1 like@Doza Ditore e Dijes a je vet addict a qa?
0 likes@DontTripHoe jom kan, kqyrma channelin tem edhe munesh me u sqaru!
0 likes@Doza Ditore e Dijes bravo qe e ke tejkalu, ti pash do video shum kanal informativ 👌keep it up even tho it seems like you don't post anymore
0 likes@DontTripHoe I am not posting for now, amo kom me vazhdu ne te ardhmen, subscribe nese don me u njoftu kur kthena. Tani e spjegoj edhe pse e kom nderpre per qit kohe.
0 likesThanks anyways!
@Doza Ditore e Dijes subbed 👍 looking forward to your future content
0 likes@DontTripHoe Thank u!
0 likes@Taylor M you aren't too wise,I hope you know it.Actually very simple.
0 likesMan so true. I believe he is a good person. He shows he can be trusted, by not talking to the police
0 likes@quick schweezy that dude is heartless. People forget there are addictions that are not illegal. Ehat makes it the same is it doesnt matter what the addiction is it's the same to the brain
0 likes@Jackie The family behind Purdue Pharma are evil incarnate.
0 likes@Fr1endlyf1re finally someone says it. i'm tired of hearing how he's a good man and wholesome and smart and whatnot just a "victim of circumstances". it's not like that in the vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast majority of cases.
0 likes@AnonymousAnglo wouldn't be possible
0 likes@Cakelinky most often, addicts start doing drugs to numb mental, psychological or physical anguish. Many have been abused, used or had medical trauma and got addicted on prescription medication. You don't have to be stupid to become addicted. You just have to suffer greatly. Alcohol is just as destructive and harmful but is legal and highly taxed. Social drinking is flashed at us through commercials every few minutes. I can't count the number of lives Alcohol has destroyed but can remember the few with heroin, meth or other street drugs have effected. Alcoholics are generally treated with sympathy while any other addict is treated with contempt. There is definitely a lack of education out there. And big brother can't tax street drugs, so they go after it. It's a mess.
0 likes@AnonymousAnglo the best and easiest long-term solution to get rid of drug dealers is for people to stop buying drugs.
0 likes@AnonymousAnglo all of my dealers were addicts as well
0 likes@sox you probably didn't do heroin..
0 likes@AnonymousAnglo I… I hope this was the worst form of satire
0 likes@dweep yea I did. I did pretty much every drug except a lot of hallucinogens and no bath salts.
0 likes@Kingof Grim it wasn't. Stop being so sensitive.
0 likesIntelligence and experience is very different. Some of the dumbest people I know can do things I'd never dream of because they've got experience under their belt.
0 likes@sox man you skipped the best 2. Hallucinogens and bath salts are awesome
0 likes@dweep I get psychosis from halluconigens
0 likes@JustAnother IrishMan it's sadly not that easy.
0 likes@Bluebonez tragically it is that simple.
0 likes@JustAnother IrishMan it really isn't, you're talking to someone with a family with BLOODLINE addiction.everyone on my father's side is addicted to drugs and alcohol so no it is not that easy. I saw the process myself growing up both intoxicated and the process of sobriety. It is not that easy and it will never be that easy because once you are addicted, shit is hard. You can why didn't you just drink, well his drinking problem happened after he drank it socially and not in a bad light but after war is where it fucked him over. So please do not say it is that easy when it really isn't. It's not easy for the addict and it is not easy for the people around them.
0 likes@Bluebonez and you assume I'm not speaking from experience ? Take responsibility and grow up.
0 likes@Funny is Subjective but the low is horrible
0 likes@LCU Nash Despite his behavior and obvious addiction symptoms. He still has a clean grasp on his situation, despite the situation itself. If we look at all the other videos, there's a clear difference in intelligence between the others who got interrogated. He remains calm and trolls the interrogator. They even had to switch interrogators, which means the first one got stuck in a dead end, that doesn't happen very often.
0 likesSure, he might be a heroin junkie but he's a smart one, perhaps not wise but sharp nonetheless.
@Sifu Hotman sorry bud but you’re responding to a one year old comment that’s hidden in between 185 responses, can’t recall what I said here.
0 likesWhile I do agree that heroin is destructive, addiction is first a symptom and over time ends up causing problems in and of itself.
0 likes@JustAnother IrishMan actually many choices a person makes can cause them to get cancer. If you eat only processed foods because you’re too lazy to cook you have a high likelihood of getting cancer. If your choose to smoke cigarettes you have a high likelihood of getting cancer…. So yes getting cancer CAN be a choice. Not always, as there’s different types of cancer
0 likes@Caroline Murray yes completely true we can live a healthy life or a unhealthy life and that is our personal choice. But when I’ve been diagnosed with cancer and I am dying from it, I can not decided to not have cancer in the same way I can decide not to have a drink. It’s extremely simple but you would rather do mental gymnastics blame everybody and everything else instead of looking at yourself. I am responsible for ME.
0 likes@AnonymousAnglo on both sides it's terrible and yeah the drug dealers are the problem.
0 likes@Doza Ditore e Dijes It's not a matter of intelligence, it's a matter of experience, as Jeff said he got through the system multiple times, I also got through the system, and I didn't fell again for it, I don't consider that intelligence I consider that common sense, it's the classical: "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me".
1 like@quick schweezy don't bite. That's the secret. He has horrible opinions out of spite, do not give him the recognition he demands.
0 likesPlenty people have common sense. Doesn't mean they automatically are successful in society. matter fact common sense seems like a negative for most places now days. People want sheep to work for them.
0 likesI feel so bad for him going thru withdrawals while getting grilled at the same time. I hope he got cashed out for this! He better have sued
14 likesOf all the JCS videos I have watched this guy is a genius compared to all the others.
0 likes-He refuses to talk to the cops, which will lead him to incriminate himself.
-He knows the cops are out to get him.
-He asked for a lawyer.
-He scores some Coca Cola while giving these cops nothing!
He teaches the lesson that all these videos have taught me. Guilty or not guilty, NEVER talk to the police. Ask for a lawyer. Refuse DNA swabs. Protect your rights!
Cop: "You have the right to remain silent, do you understand?"
8 likesJeff: Remains Silent
I've never been in legal trouble, other than missing court date f9r a ticket, but it amazes me most people can talk their way into a conviction. Anyone who is arrested should do what this guy did. Stay silent. Especially if you're guilty.
0 likesIt would be even funnier if narrator switched sides and started explaining how Jeff's tactics work on the interrogator
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Fuckin priceless! Thats funny af.
303 likesWhy is this not the top comment?!
81 likesman im in tears.....LMAO
33 likesLmao Best comment I've seen on the channel
26 likesLOL 🤣
7 likesWatch the episode before this lol
5 likesLmao
3 likesThat info would be too powerful
16 likesPause video. Jeff response of "you look like a prick "is what's known in the psychological world as a burn.
149 likesJeff burnt the investigator and now he has to be on the psychological defensive for the rest of the interview.
Absolutely!
6 likesThat’d be great 👍
2 likesExactly... I would love to see/hear that
2 likesI hope everybody co-signs this comment so the narrator will do it in 2022!
8 likesI’m dead af. You need to chill 🤣🤣
2 likesHe kinda did
1 likeYou need to know the narration yourself if your ever in Jeff's sitch
0 likesThey did
0 likesThere are many videos that does that lol
0 likesDonnie (guitar tech) god dang. Calm down the hall monitor vibe 😁
1 likeMaybe a good April fool's day video lol
0 likeslmao
0 likes😂😂
1 likeHe wouldn't take long if addicted, the not so funny symptoms come soon and then , mommy
1 likeEugene Bebs I'm wearing a Eugene Debs tee shirt right now. Yeah, I know, I'm a dweeb.
0 likesPLEASE I WOULD HAVE DIED
0 likes👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
0 likesFor real my guy good point lol
1 likeIt's funny because it's true😂🤣😂🤣 Jeff physiologically destroyed this investigator.
0 likesLmaoooooo yes please , or make a second channel called Jimcanswim with only that content
0 likesI dint think that would be funny at all
0 likesYeah that would been amazing I was kinda rooting for him like get that man a lawyer hahahah
0 likesLol some version of JCS for the criminal where you're taught how to win against the interrogaters
0 likes@MrMongoose221 Hahahahs good to know
0 likesI second this motion.
0 likesHoly shit watching him, I can feel it. Anyone that knows what it's like to come off dope, this is about the worst scenario you can be in. He is actually handling it quite well, definitely a strong willed sumbish.
5 likesThe interrogator treating him like a child offering him a butter finger and trying to take his coke lmao. Good on Jeff they tried so hard to coerce him. Never talk to the cops ever even if you’re 100% innocent
13 likesDamn
14 likesI feel for this guy
Having been a heroin addict myself for almost a decade before I got clean in 2014, I know the absolute agony of going into withdrawal. Wether “he did that to himself” or not, you don’t end up addicted to hard drugs for no reason. There’s something that drove you to that substance. Usually trauma. I feel for this dude.
It's amazing to me how Christian Bale becomes Jeff in this he really emerses himself in his roles.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
0 likesMoral of the story: the longer you don’t talk to the cops, the more free cokes and candy they will give you
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Lol. Is that how I get a free coke these days
518 likesI’ll take the deal with a J
93 likesSweeeeet
36 likesinstructions unclear i am now in jail and i am writing on a phone i snuck in. i just wanted coke and candy :(
368 likes@world taekwondo it’s not theft if they gave it to him
21 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
5 likesI once went to a police dept to interview a detective for an essay and some random officer came up to me and gave me 2 slices of cake
127 likes@Emily Davis lmao i might have to do it myself >:)
23 likesJunkies need that sugar. No judgement.
56 likesBut what would he do for a Klondike bar!
28 likes9:28 best way to ruin a detective's day.
15 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
2 likes@Emily Davis Did you confess?
4 likes@Gary Egeberg only my love for cake
19 likeswham bham thank you for the coke... PUT me back in the cell
21 likes@Mike C cauze wEEEEEEd. nice.
4 likesHe is well aware
3 likesLOOL
1 likeJust remember, they will steal your DNA.
15 likes@Emily Davis One time I was doing a scavenger hunt with my friends and we had to get a funny picture. We had the bright idea to go to the police station and ask for a mugshot. They actually took the picture for us😂 No cake though.
7 likesSugar and withdrawl go hand in hand (unfortunately) 🍫🥤🍪
5 likes@Emily Davis 😂😂
2 likesA career criminal once told me .
22 likesInterrogation is a game
The only way to win the game is not to play.
The minute you believe you are smarter than them you already lost .
He said you start with multiple paths to freedom and every question you answer takes away a path as now you are locked in to a certain direction .
He was a smart man
They do that to get your DNA, don't accept
4 likes@Emily Davis lmao 🤣 it's thought that said 2 slice of coke
0 likesIn nyc you get mets tickets and gift cards
1 likeCareful though, they can take your DNA that way.
1 likeAfter watching this I went and got one of those "share a coke with Jeff" cans. Way to go, Jeff.
5 likesDon't take candy from strangers take candy from cops.
1 likedone✍🏻✍🏻✍🏻✍🏻....
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likes🤣😭🙏🏻
0 likesTrying to get something by giving a person candy...sounds kinda familiar...
1 like😂
0 likess h a d ø w b a n n e d with his record they already have that.
0 likesSo the cops will give me free candy? 👁👄👁
2 likes😂
0 likesSugar was the only thing available to ease his withdrawal
3 likes@ASMR Music i super appreciate that link!! That's so cool. He is clean and sober. Made my day better
3 likesIn india they beat you until you confess.
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
0 likesIn exchange for DNA evidence. XD
1 like@kelsie gebhardt In the US it is . In Singapore the Coke machine will give you a free one for a hug.
2 likes@s h a d ø w b a n n e d true
0 likesAnd methadone!
0 likes@Emily Davis It was a trick. If you didn't eat the cake, they'd know you were feeling guilt about something. Or whatever that guy said in the Transformers movie.
1 likeThey wanna break your teeth, thats why.
0 likesHopefully candy with no Mickey
0 likesTo make ppl talk
No Coke PEPSI ??? pepsi
1 likePepsi !!! Pepsi. Ok PEPSI PEPSI .
Pepsi PEPSI PEPSI.
If you can commit enough crimes to stay in the interrogation room, you'll never have to buy food.
2 likes@An Anthropomorphic Talking Gourd But, if you're innocent, what's there to fear?
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesThanks for making me laugh, Toaster. Epic! :D
0 likesWell said
0 likesThanks. I'm make sure that's what I'll do next time
0 likessugar to an addict
0 likesIf its in India,lucky if one gets water bottle. 😆
0 likes@s h a d ø w b a n n e d noticed how he opened his coke with his teeth as to not pop the top with his fingers. They probably most def grabbed that coke can out of the trash to check it tho.
0 likesCome down to Florida and try asking for a coke...you get a week old bologna sandwich.
0 likesHe should have requested the whole mcdonald's 😂
0 likesAnd it really makes em cranky! What a win/win! Guy is a frikkin folk hero! Love it! Lol
0 likesJeff's ain't no heroin addict, he's a "Coke" head! :D 6'3" 153 pounds, of which 150 are bones, 3 pounds flesh. lol
0 likesAlso moral is if you are withdrawing from heroine then tease the cops with maybe I will talk. Then get the chocolate that helps with withdrawing 😁
0 likesBetter option then the white van with candy written over it
0 likesfax
0 likesand when you are addicted to heroin you want you sugar, the more the merrier.
0 likesIdk about the us but in Australia they give you Maccas
0 likesBut no brazel
0 likesThese are always so interesting to watch/listen to while drawing :D they're also really useful to get some real world examples of the things I'm learning about in uni. Thank you for making these!
1 likeI know that this really isn't something to laugh about but I couldn't help but smile while watching this he seems like a good guy and definitely a smart one too, favorite case yet
3 likesI like his bluntness speaking about how he got popped. I've gotten involved with cops a few times and pretty much every time you're just like "ayo why the hell is there 50 cops outside" and they start running you down.
4 likesBeing interrogated while going through opiate withdrawals absolutely sucks. I was interrogated twice while dope sick. You can't get comfortable, but under interrogation it's like every second is a f'n hour long. Every emotion is amplified 100x, I feel like even just KNOWING an interrogation is forthcoming is agonizing. Same with jail or the police cells being cold as shit, you literally feel so cold yet sweating hot. I got busted in 2014 for a gun charge technicality and spilled my guts (Canada has laws that require you to trigger lock your firearms at all times unless being used, that's what I got arrested for) my 2nd interrogation was because my addict roommate took my airsoft AK outside and got swatted for it. This time I got popped for "weapons possession" when the only literal weapons I owned were knives. Thank GOD I started watching interrogation stuff because they tried to make me cop to a prohibited weapon charge. This time I knew to STFU and it saved my ass. SAVED ME.
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I’m sorry that happened to you. I’m glad you’ve learned ways to keep yourself safe when being questioned. Honestly I think that if someone is going through withdrawal anything they say shouldn’t be admissible because they aren’t in a state of mind to think of anything except how awful they feel, they should be talked to by a medical professional and given something to get them through their symptoms and then the interview could carry on. It’s a physical and mental health problem, I’m autistic but I have pregabalin prescribed and it gives you brutal withdrawal where you sweat, shake, feel faint, have an upset stomach, and can’t think straight or process what’s going on around you and if I was to be interviewed while going through that (obviously opiate withdrawal is far, far worse) I wouldn’t be able to understand what was being said to me and I don’t see how it’s ok to talk to somebody who isn’t in a state where they can understand and focus. Withdrawal puts you in that state, to me it should be seen as torture for the police to hold someone who is withdrawing and not get them any help and interrogate them. Even if they did commit a crime, letting them sit there suffering is just cruel and it shouldn’t be a tactic that is allowed to be used. In my opinion it is torture and if you’re not allowed to get a confession under duress, continuing to question someone who is going through withdrawal without getting them medical attention shouldn’t be allowed. You can’t make sane decisions when you’re suffering, you’re incapacitated.
1 likeFed: “You have the right to remain silent”
23917 likesJeff: silent
Fed: “Jeff?!”
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PLSS 😭
373 likesLMFAOOO
206 likes@Other Riley no they just are his rights and he recognised that
534 likes@Other Riley your bad
43 likes@Other Riley haha you're baf
17 likesHilarious!!!!
6 likesWoke Coke NO Thanks
8 likesIkr🤣
5 likesThe Supreme Court ruled just remaining silent with out acknowledging that you are exercising the right to isn't the same thing.
29 likes@James Blackwood in what way is it different?
20 likesI thought he was gonna not agree to understanding his rights for the whole video💀
45 likesTime stamp?
2 likes@Other Riley lol! Underrated comment! Lolol
3 likesLMFAO
3 likesHahahhaha
2 likes@James Blackwood good thing he kept saying he wanted to talk to a lawyer first then
8 likes@Bob Lightning me too pahaha
0 likes@Ren i always asked myself "what if you just don't talk?" and now I know
10 likesNo comprende mi amigo...lol
2 likes@Jeff Lord are you jeff
8 likesAnytime a cop reads me my rights and says you are arrested....lawyer UP !
9 likes@Other Riley how ?? Have you EVER BEEN ARRESTED ?
1 like@Ren Well to be fair he has to accept that he understands the rights or else anything he says wont be able to be used. If they dont get a yes or a no then they cant go on with the interrogation
3 likesDid u understand?
1 like🤣🤣🤣
1 likelmfao i died at that part 😭
3 likes@James Blackwood that’s correct. If you watch Audit the Audit they explain more on that.
4 likesBut yea you have to tell them you’re exercising that right.
😂
0 likes🤣
0 likes@sophiaa ehat is this
0 likesLei
0 likesTHATS WHAT I WAS THINKING
0 likes@Bob Lightning honestly kinda smart
0 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likesI'm thinking he's got a case with that.
0 likes@James Blackwood yeah what does this mean, what did they rule exactly and would it be in my best interest to do what Jeff did and just not respond to whether I understand my rights? Why don’t more ppl do that. I think I’m going to just not even answer like him. Can only benefit me probably unless I was about to go into withdrawal like in jeffs case. That’s the one thing that really impressed me about how ready he was to dismiss the detective and say I don’t talk to the police several times. Personally I would be worried about withdrawal and want to get out if I didn’t do anything and I’d probably think it was in my best interest to talk to them and try to get out as soon as possible given the oncoming withdrawals
0 likes@Christopher G the Supreme Court ruled that you have to state that you're exercising you're right to remain silent. Once you say that you don't have to say anything else. The police have to be informed of your decision, that remaining silent and not saying anything isn't enough.
4 likesSo if you're ever in this situation just tell them you're exercising your 5th amendment right to remain silent, and you would like your lawyer present for any other questions.
Fed: “WHERE’D HE GO?!”
0 likes@James Blackwood why would they rule that and how could they possibly rule that. Like what’s the difference. And what would the consequences be. That’s odd. Wonder what the case was
0 likes@James Blackwood thanks for the info tho, maybe will look into it. Sounds kinda interesting
1 likePmsl 😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesGive it to Jeff 😂😂😂
0 likesThanks for the subtitles
0 likes@Other Riley how can you abuse your rights? They are literally there to us to use?
0 likesMGS Dialogue
0 likes@Other Riley how he literally started talking😐
0 likes👏👏👏
0 likes😂😂😂 fr tho he was acting so confused like it wasn't just a joke to Jeff 😂
2 likesLMFAOO
0 likesholy shit I'm laughing so hard
0 likes@Furkan G. you know what?
0 likes@Christopher G 👍
1 like"Sentence this innocent man to prison with no evidence and you get a badge" - police department
0 likes😂 😂 😂 😂
0 likesHahahha
0 likesWAIT 1 MINUTE IN THIS IS SO FUNNY LOL 😭😭😭😭😭
0 likesyou are supposed to acknowledge the right first though, and essentially enact it, just an "I plead the fifth" would have saved Jeff so much time
0 likes@James Blackwood No, you misunderstood. In the case where the detectives keep asking you questions and then you make a statement that is used against you, you must have asserted your right to silence in order for the statement you made to be ruled inadmissible.
0 likesIf you simply remain silent, then you wont be making any statements that can be used against you and thus there will be no statements to rule inadmissible.
So no, you do not have to assert your right to remain silent as long as you are smart enough to actually remain silent. Like Jeff.
Thank you I'm blind I couldn't hear that
0 likes@James Blackwood He asked for a Lawyer. They violated his rights and intentionally put him in withdrawal in an attempt to coerce a false confession. Even the blind can see Jeff didn’t do it. Lazy cops just tryna pin it on one of the familiar neighborhood addicts with absolutely no probable cause to even detain him. Total abuse of power.
0 likesAnd NO — you don’t have to verbally invoke the 5th, to invoke the goddamn 5th amendment. Asking for a lawyer and invoking the 5th are 2 different things. The moment Jeff asked for a lawyer, the cops were not legally allowed to continue questioning him without his lawyer present. Period. Hope these cops were reprimanded for 17M people watching them violate this man’s constitutional rights, and torturing him by forcing him into withdrawal to wear him down 5 hours AFTER he asked for a lawyer!
Jeff has been the main character of all our stories this entire time.
5 likesThe way he says " along time" when asked about his addiction, I felt that.
4 likesIt's weird that a guy can be as accurate as you usually are and still somehow believe that "selflessness" and "humanity" could be synonymous.
11 likesI always thought a cool game show would be for "participants" be interogated by pro senior investigaters. And the object is to either not confess to something you didn't do (to get out of jail because it sucks) or to stick to your guns and not confess. But the kicker is you have to be believable enough for a jury (audience) to believe your innocent .
1 likeI haven't worked out all the details, but something along those lines. I would watch that in a heartbeat and it would be fun to try and outsmart interrogators knowing that your not going to prison for life if you fail to be believable enough.
Hold up. I'm confused. In his second interveiw attempt, he clearly uses his right to have a lawyer present .
1 likeThen 5 hours later, they pull him out for questioning again with no lawyer?
How does that work?
This dude is gold! He totally exposes the detectives false promises. Also, i want a lawyer means now, but they ignore his rights, case should be dismissed straight out!!
2 likesA few of us know what a decade of heroin addiction feels like lol. On my long journey I similarly learned from previous mistakes in dealing with law enforcement how to better respond while incriminating myself as little as possible. The more interactions with police the more confident you become dealing with them. I know a bunch of Jeff’s to be fair, he kept his mouth shut because he knew they needed more evidence, for him to incriminate himself somehow, as he was only on a hold. Also any addict knows uncomfortable withdrawals are. I’ve been in a similar position, fortunately with the stakes not nearly as high as Jeff has them. Respect for handle your business, hope you found your way out of the cycle.
1 likeWell a few of us know what a decade of her induction feels like… lol. Similarly I learned from my mistakes in dealing with law enforcement how to better respond while incriminating myself as little as possible. The more interactions with police the more confident you become dealing with them. I know a bunch of Jeff’s to be fair, he kept his mouth shut because he knew they needed more evidence as he was only on a hold. Also any addict how uncomfortable withdrawals are. I’ve been in a similar position, fortunately with the stakes not nearly as high as Jeff
1 likeImagine the narrator gets arrested, and during the interview, he looks at the camera and explains the questions, his responses, and his body language.
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"I am currently running from the police. Judging by the way he is pulling a taser out of his pocket with an annoyed but not angry look on his face, I can conclude that he is utilizing the common police technique known as a tackle."
646 likes🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
20 likesHmm...interesting
7 likes@Oritsu lol I read that with his voice
64 likes😂🤣🤣🤣😂
0 likes@Oritsu im crying 😂😂😂😂
2 likesMy mind immediately went to “Malcolm in the Middle”
17 likes@Oritsu "I was running for quite a long time, and got exhausted due to this taxing activity so I did the technique called, The Pause Technique."
55 likes@sewichsjs “see here how the officer presses my face into the ground and grips my hands behind my back tightly? Using this information, I can conclude that the officer believes I have caused an offence and may be a danger to society. In order to make sure he knows that I do not consider myself a threat, I will comply without issue.”
73 likes"This is the Lockpicking Lawyer and what I have for you today is a pair of Smith & Wesson Police Issue Double Lock handcuffs as I'm being brought to the station for robbing my local bank. Now as you can see, relatively obscured by all the blood, there are several design flaws.
43 likesOne is loose, so is two, three is binding..."
🤣🤣 nice one
0 likesHonestly I'd love this so much hahahaha. If he ever does get arrested i hope he does that so that it eventually circles back around and gets on his channel.
9 likesThe police would likely be so confused at first lol.
Hi, you’re probably wondering how I ended up here. Well, let me tell you…
15 likes“Here you can see i am using my hands to talk. I use my hands to express what i want to say. The caviat here is, im not. You are only seeing it in your head since this is only text•
6 likesLike Peter Griffin when he spent 2 weeks narrating his own life. "I awoke in a daze several hours later"
2 likesWhat “Jeff” does is what you are supposed to do. Innocent or not. You find yourself in an interrogation, get a lawyer immediately.
6 likesThe minutes he said he wanted a lawyer,there was no reason to keep questioning him and not bringing him to his cell. So anything they got our of him is under duress.
4 likesan anti hero, in simple terms, is actually a character that does the right thing for the wrong reasons
3 likesAlso here’s what I love about this. I think the cop actually respects this guy.
4 likesDetective: Do you understand the rights I've explained to ya?
5883 likesJeff: mumbles "no"
Detective: what?
Jeff: yeah
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67 likes😂😂🤣🤣
20 likesLol
9 likesYes that was brutal 😄😄😄
16 likes😂 😂😂😂
5 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
4 likescommenters: "omg hes a mastermind"
26 likes@LibSmasher69 it's funny... not mastermind, just funny, lighten up.
44 likesLmao it’s almost like we watched the same exact video
3 likes😅😂🤣
0 likesWhat would a cop do if someone being interrogated asks them about the entire history of the Miranda rights and what every single word/phrase in every single right means?
4 likes@Trident hf there's always people like you in these comment sections
0 likes@Cudgel-Swinging Barbarian ikr lol
1 likeLmao I thought I heard that too!
0 likesit's amazing how the heroin addict is smarter than all the "normal" people that were interrogated on this channel
15 likesHow can Jeff give his side of the story to an incident he claims no knowledge of? It’s the sad state of policing I general, let’s not investigate, let’s just hang this crime (plus anything else we can hang on him) and whilst he’s undergoing withdrawal he’ll crack and admit to anything. Btw - where’s that fucking lawyer got to? Presumably the police weren’t criticised or reprimanded for not getting the lawyer that was requested numerous times in this heavily edited video? No? Wow, what a shocker - police not held to account (is that a new thing? /s).
2 likesNice to see the narrator going along as if there’s nothing wrong with the “justice system” in police state America, as clearly only the guilty go to gaol.
The man, the myth, the legend....Jeff....May God watch over you.
0 likesas if the whole "antihero" thing didn't give jeff a general appeal, i especially sympathize with him since he looks and talks just like my uncle. my dad was also addicted to heroin and meth, so i can't help but sympathize with him for that as well.
2 likesThis guy may be severely crippled by addiction but his natural intelligence shows
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True lmao
63 likesMy man was like Isaac newton when he was not drugged
321 likesPlus he 7"5 all that height went to nothing
27 likes@comp 6.5 not 7.5 lol
95 likes@comp "oh the potential he had with all that height"
20 likesWell did you help him achieve this "potential" you speak of lol
@Bob Builder what potential? Become an NBA player? Not every tall person becomes an NBA player
58 likesI was being satirical on the phrase "potential" that gets thrown around like confetti on social media.
4 likesFucking charisma skill tree. Real life bard.
23 likesI started physically smiling when he stayed silent after the guy asked "do you understand your rights"
35 likesThere’s the general consensus that comes with substance abuse treatment (which I’ve worked in) is that typically people who become addicts are definitely some of the more intelligent people around. Think of all of the famous writers, poets, philosophers, artists who all had substance issues. The smartest people I know to this day were addicts.
39 likes@Garrett F than I must be an Einstein lol
4 likes@Garrett F they say he had experience with the law before,that might have helped him navigate the interaction.
3 likes@Bob Builder well you’re sure ain’t no Sigmund Freud, Janis Joplin, Hemmingway, or Benjamin Franklin. There’s actual studies that have been done that people with higher IQs are more likely to try drugs or do them more frequently than normal people.
0 likes@Twizted You are delusional. No, I will not elaborate.
14 likes@Twizted what does this have to do with addiction at all? If you really wanna get down to the nitty gritty of politics. You could argue that capitalism fuels the war on drugs, and the private prison system that lobbies for harder punishments for non-violent offenders. Also people usually become addicts due to the pharmaceutical industry. Big pharma incentivizes doctors to purposefully prescribe highly addictive medication, and they do so by paying off medical students’ college loans that they can’t afford. None of this has to do with any idea of government intervention or socialism as all, quite the opposite. Ironically many European countries that seem much more “socialist” than America have a decriminalization approach to drugs. Which is proven to work much better against addiction than our “war on drugs”
14 likes@Leonardo Landi yes actually I have, my original comment i mentioned that I have worked in treatment. In the height of addiction no, but if these people are able to get sober they are incredibly bright and intelligent. And there have been studies done that show that people who are smarter tend to be more likely to get addicted to a substance or more willing to experiment
2 likesYeah his mental intelligence really showed he was getting shit tests this whole time but never gave in. If this guys was tortured to release a valuable information I bet he would not say shit.
1 likeYes, I agree. However, too bad he wasn’t intelligent enough to stay away from drugs.
0 likes@Albert Forletta intelligence or lack there of isn't what drives a man to sedate themselves, when others break your mind relentlessly whether it is the outside society or prison system , eventually you'll become an addict of something
4 likescrippled by a system that failed to provide him with a lawyer the first time he asked
0 likes@Twizted socialism? lol how absolutely irrelevant
4 likes@Albert Forletta
0 likesYour showing your lack of intelligence by thinking that’s how intelligence works.
remaining silent on the question of whether he understands his rights was a clever move
2 likesI have to say the interrogators are getting stepped down on their ego staircases and it’s kind of funny.
2 likes7:43 "Thanks for the coke" after that heated exchange just made me wheeze with laughter.🤣
0 likesLegend has it that Jeff is still in the interrogation room, remaining silent..
1 likeI love that the cop tries the whole "we have so much evidence just admit it already" and Jeff goes "like what?" and the cop just freezes like a deer in headlights.
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I think Jeff has been in more interrogations than the cop 🥴
745 likes"Police Deception"
56 likes@O.P. Driftwood hilarious comment.. but still probably true
51 likesAnytime cops say they got loads of shit on you 8 times out of 10 they don't got shit.
112 likesThe interrogator gave a physical anxious tell as he leaned back. Its the kind of thing someone does when they nervously ask someone out. Given the context of the situation, if I saw the interrogator do that as he said "oh all kinds of evidence" I'd grin like an idiot and then not say a single word until my eventual, inevitable, release.
82 likesYep, I'm pretty sure a cop is going to start listing shit way before Jeff asked him 'like what?' He'd fish for a bit I'm sure but after pulling him out of a cell a few times and getting cuked for cokes, he'd lay something on Jeff to try and jar him.
14 likesIf the cops really had any evidence then they would charge Jeff straight away without hours of desperate interviews
54 likeshad me on camera for crime i did not commit , go ahead ya may as well admit it we got ya , we got ya . but they was nice later dropped the charges .
4 likesHe’s trying, their goal is to get whoever it is to confess. They also see a bunch of guys who do try to lie.
1 likeWhen they do have evidence theyre proud of it they lay it on the table right away
15 likes@brian pinion
4 likes"i got evidence yo mama blows me"
"That's impossible"
"Exactly"
Didn’t really freeze
0 likes@Expendable Subhuman 10 out of 10. If they had any they wouldn't waste anytime with you. Period.
1 likeHoly shit i hadn't noticed that!
0 likesAre cops allowed to do that? Studying law in denmark and the law here specifically states that cops can't trick the people they interrogate.
2 likes@Anders Gram its a trick they use watch their other video about "guulty until proven innocent" to get a more better description
1 like@Shinji🗿: "That's cause she swallowed it all" The inner schoolchild in me couldn't resist dropping that line, hehe
1 like'That doesn't mean dick... ' classic
7 likesWhy are cops allowed to lie like that? Ridiculous
2 likesMad respect i cant even handle a cigarette withdrawal without going crazy. I would definitely end up in prison in a situation like this and he mastered it like an absolute champ. Legend!
0 likesInteresting. Though you missed part of the definition. An antihero can be either a) a bad guy who is portrayed in a way that makes you root for them, or b) a hero that has less than admirable behavior, and questionable ethics. Deadpool would be a currently well known example of the latter.
0 likesJeff knows what's at stake and it's tough for him to get through.. I experienced it a few times and it's horrible, being in a cold cell going through withdrawal and being interrogated.. Holly shit got chills down my spine just thinking about it !
0 likesI can't say if truly is innocent or guilty, but he really can talk his way through an interrogation room like it's nothing. This is the shortest video I've watched, and the way he plays it shows why. He's wrecklessly smooth
1 likehaving heroine withdrawals for several hours in an interrogation room is probably pretty damn brutal on a person
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And still he dealt with it like a CHAMP
135 likesIt's brutal even if you're safe at home NOT being charged with anything. I can't even imagine. At least his withdrawal was just starting and he was released 12 hours later, so he didn't have to go through the worst of it in that environment.
125 likesBeen there done that
6 likesTrust me. IT IS.
8 likesAin't nobody rattling and chugging soda like that.
9 likesIt's psychological, he damn knew no way he will get heroine there so his mind was prepared. Coke worked as a substitute for him.
46 likesI did same with my nicotine addiction, replaced with a Hard candy. 🍬
We underestimate the power of mind.
@Investor Sudhir man you are absolutely correct. Never underestimate the power of your mind
16 likesyeah i can’t even handle weed withdrawals in my own cozy bedroom
13 likes@chapstick you don't go threw weed withdrawals no such thing as weed withdrawals
18 likes@Robert Joseph Imagine comparing heroin withdrawals to not smoking your daily J lmao
45 likesThat’s when the rat comes out
0 likesI was addicted to heroin for 6 years and I went through withdrawals at home and I thought I was literally going to just die.. I can't even imagine going through that in jail/interrogation oh my god
15 likesYeah, having recently cold turkeyed I can only imagine. Good thing he was only beginning the withdrawals at that point, hard to interact while your whole fucking body hurts and you vomit. Jesus, I really hope I keep recovering, cause damn. Not my first withdrawal, but my first completely finished one.
7 likes@Investor Sudhir Opiate addiction causes physical addiction, unlike nicotine. Read up the effects of the withdrawal from opiates and you'll get it's not as easy as dropping cigarettes.
8 likes@A K wow, well done! I've never experienced addiction so I can't imagine what that must be like, but I hope you keep going. you're gonna do yourself real proud.
1 like@random Yeah, it ain't easy, but I'm trying to rebuild ^ ^' Thank you.
4 likesI could only compare it to hunger, the psychological addiction and the effect long term use of opiates has on the brain receptors. Every now and again your brain is just like "INJECT IT NOW", and there is that compulsion... but thankfully it happens rarer and rarer every day, and I built some mechanisms to cope better. I'm relying on old friends to keep me responsible as well.
@Investor Sudhir You're ignorant if you think that's even remotely the same.
2 likes@A K nicotine indeed causes physical dependency.
2 likes@NuckChorris What do you mean by that? I mean, I'm well aware that there are physical issues you feel when you try to stop smoking, I just feel the physical dependency of the body on the nicotine is incredibly low compared to opioids.
1 likeAnd of course, there are worse addictions, where withdrawals can kill a person, the most abused substance, alcohol being one of those.
@A K Oh, I see. I have to completely agree with your comment now. I just wanted to point out that those "physical issues" are sign of physical withdrawal.
3 likes@NuckChorris Oh, okay then ^ ^ Yeah, I'm aware
1 like@Investor Sudhir Nicotine withdrawal is nothing like opiate withdrawal. I've been through both, there's no "mind over matter" coming off opiates, just seizures, vomiting, sweating, shaking... once you get to that point, some hard candies aren't going to help lol.
3 likes@Investor Sudhir hope you got over you’re nicotine habit such a terrible thing to have gods bless ya 😏 fml dudes deranged 🤣
0 likesi wish captain marvel would come save me
0 likesIt’s horrible.
0 likesIt sucks
0 likesI can assure you that it is.
1 likehate to be that guy but there’s no e in heroin. heroine is a female hero, or something to that effect.
0 likes@Autumn Is Here "there's no e in heroin" -- hate to break it to ya...
0 likesIt ain’t easy if I’m being honest…
0 likes@A K
1 likeHope all is still well. I’ve been struggling for nearly 20 years with it. Got clean in September, found a decent job at the end of November, managed to get promoted and got a raise, and now I’m up for a team lead position. It’s amazing what we can accomplish when we get clean and work hard.
@Janoy Cresva Yeah, things are well! I had a single use relapse because I'm also dealing with a mental illness and I found a stash accidentally while cleaning (I found a few others after that, since I was cleaning the entire house, but those went down the pipes). I threw it in the trash, but had a psychotic break a day after and ended up using it. I can't say if I would have ended up picking it from the trash otherwise, honestly, I want to say no, but I can't really say. Thankfully I managed to scrape together the money to see a psychiatrist at the start of february, the medicine is working well and at this point it's fully effective. At this rate of mental recovery I might be able to find a job, and more importantly, hold it soon, probably this month or the next.
1 likeIt's good to hear you're doing well too! I was addicted for 4 years, so it's nothing compared to you, but honestly, reading stories like yours are what gave me hope when I decided to get clean. I mean, I decided that a few times, but this time it stuck. It was worth it. I can say it even at this point, so it will only keep getting truer. Recovery really is amazing, isn't it, even if at the beginning it's as hard as it is.
@A K
1 likeThis makes me really happy to hear! Just remember you have to keep at it, and make sure you keep yourself away from people who are more interested in using drugs because that’ll only bring you down. Surround yourself with winners and you’ll do just fine!
@Janoy Cresva Thank you c: That's what I did, I never had many friends, but addiction took me away from my old circle and put me in another, giant one. That giant one, there were some nice people, but I know I'd have a bigger chance of using if I kept in contact with even those. The very few of those old circle people, that I knew would accept me despite everything that happened and would help me become a better person, those I managed to reconnect them. I wouldn't want to disappoint them, but even though I do have occasional urges nowadays, I just... don't feel like I have no reason to take - I started to "self medicate" due to horrible luck with psychiatrists. That being said, now I'm going to a great one, thanks to an old mentor (and teacher) of mine so that's covered too c:
1 likeI'm writing a lot about it, but today exactly is the second month since I got clean, not counting that one single use but I try to disregard that... It was an early failure just a few days after the end of withdrawals. I think if I counted from that I'd just hang up on it as a major failure rather than an early misstep, that are so common when getting back on your feet. It's not something I'd ever chance again, obviously. What do you think? When should I count from?
@A K
1 likeIf you think it was a misstep then you count from the first time brother. That’s where you got clean for good… It’s not like you’re going to AA meetings or something like that, and if you feel like you’re doing better now then hey!
And what a weird coincidence. Today is 6 months for me! Keep up the great work bud!
@Janoy Cresva I appreciate your answer, I do have a tendency to hang up on minor fuckups so it's really good to be reassured.
1 likeIt is a weird coincidence, but high five in that case! And, obviously, same to you, man, half a year is a huge milestone!
Jeff: "Yo enough of that Coke already, now get me some smack, then I'll talk!!" :D
0 likesCop: "Done!!" lol
@Robert Joseph yea there are 💀
0 likes@chapstick Weed withdrawals? Not to be dismissive, but...c'mon dude.
0 likes@Corn0nTheCobb 12 hours of withdrawal is bad. Been there. Yes everyone is different but 12 hours is still pretty bad.
0 likes@Investor Sudhir omg nicotine an an opiates are two very very very different things , u don’t go through any physical withdrawal from nicotine but with an opiate omg I wouldn’t put it on my worse enemy , the sweating , the pain , the shakes x if only coke helped with it x if it was that easy I think all addicts would quit lol 😂, meds are prescribed to stop the withdrawals , if only it was mind over matter
0 likes@sora You get what you believe. Good luck!
0 likes@Kelly Wood Too much information is not good. If you are already prepared with withdrawal symptoms for your addiction, you will get it.
0 likesTo know mind Power,
Read about placebo effect.(Sugar pills)
All I am saying is don't ignore Power of mind.
You have no idea until you’ve personally done it which I pray you never experience.
1 like@Zachary Bergeron I've only experienced typical opiate and Suboxone withdrawal but a buddy of mine used to do H every day and he said the 2 weeks he was locked up was horrible and he was done after he got out. That was about 10yrs ago
0 likes@Investor Sudhir you are clueless, nicotine withdrawal is physical just not nearly as intense as heroin or opiate withdrawal, I've done both, speaking from experience, you need to read up before you run your mouth, hahaha ZERO STREET CRED lol..
0 likesIs it just me or are all the other videos on this channel missing???
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They were striked
0 likesI'm a recovering addict and this is so hard to watch I'm on the verge of tears watching this video I feel so bad for this man being an addict is horrible and he would be freezing he would be sick he would be sweating why he's freezing withdrawals from heroin are the worst feelings iv ever had the lowest point of my life when I was using
0 likesInterrogator: "You have the the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will used against you in a court of law.." Do you understand your rights?
1 likeJeff: .......(silent)........
Interrogator: Yes or no? Do you understand what I read to you?
Jeff: .........(totally silent)......
The man just did what the interrogator read him about his right to remain silent.. 😅
People like Jeff because he's a genius. He knows his rights, he sees through cop's bullshit, he refuses to speak and asks for lawyer. He does everything exactly right. Regardless of what happened to him after, DON'T TALK TO COPS, TALK TO A LAWYER
10 likes"you have the right to remain silent"
7428 likesJeff: and I took that personally
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LMAO
27 likesYep
7 likesMy thoughts exactly 😂
4 likesAfter he was read his right to remain silent, I thought the remaining 17 mins in video was going to be no audio.
25 likesNo, he took it literally 😆
15 likesmore like the piggies took it personally. lawl.
4 likesThanks for the subtitles
1 likeDidn't expect a nice mini lesson in storytelling narrative design 👌
0 likesWhat is insane about the whole exchange is he actually said details regarding the day, but he did not give away anything that the police didn't already know. Amazing.
1 likeI truly hope Jeff has recovered and got his life sorted
0 likesThis is a man who had enough going on already and the interrogation attempt didn't even budge the needle on his stress level.
1 likeCop: "I got sooooo much evidence."
5917 likesJeff: "Like what?"
Cop: *freezes up like an elementary school kid that can't manage a lie he made up on the spot.*
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Source: just trust me bro
384 likesThis comment section is proving the anti-hero thesis to be so true
158 likesWell you can't just give the interviewee all your cards, I suspect they just weren't quite ready for Jeff to be so blunt in his asking.
32 likeslol he sounded like a kid trying to write a book report for a book he never read
14 likes@悲しい Sid Vacant what?
0 likes"nice argument senator now why don't you back it up with a source"
22 likes" my source is that I made it the fuck up"
The correct thing to do when caught in that lie is to smile like a madman.
3 likesAlso, this proves that we need to focus more on mental health and drug programs as opposed to incarcerating people. I know he robbed But still, there has to be a better way to help these people. There’s one thing that my father taught me when I turn 13. Never talk to Coos. Even if you do something wrong. Don’t talk to them.
2 likesa "glimmer of humanity"? what the hell, who said he didn't have loads of it! to start with? it just shows he was well brought up. just because he's a dope head doesn't mean his a shit head. and THEN the cop has the nerve to complain that he's been handcuffed when Jeff won't speak to him. "I'm the prick," could he have left the door open any wider? ROFL. Priceless.
5 likeshow on earth did the victim not mention Jeff's height, 6.5', in the 1st place?
For anyone interested Jeff is alive and well with his own youtube channel. Long live Jeff lol
0 likesi watch this video once every year. long live jeff the legend.
2 likesGuy finessed the cops out of multiple Cokes and nearly had them for a Butterfinger, too. What a legend.
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Not really, just a typical convict. Normal, average, everyday inmate in prison. Seen 1000s like him. And seen many much better than him.
7 likes@Wesley Hobbs ok, anyways
150 likes@Wesley Hobbs you must be fun at parties
110 likes@Wesley Hobbs wrong
18 likes@Wesley Hobbs Simmer down Captain Charisma
39 likesI have worked in corrections for 20+ years, yes, there are many just like this guy in there. We refer to this as intuitionalized. They actually become better at these scams the longer they are in the system.
8 likesYou know it is federal law that all prisons in US must have a law library that is kept up to date of both all criminal and tort laws of the state and federal laws available to inmates at all times? They know as much about the law or more than most lawyers. Their interpretation leaves alot to be desired.
6 likes@Wesley Hobbs wow you must have a lot of ftiends
9 likes@Wesley Hobbs you can tell when someone knows their rights and it agitates you because you're a CO lol
25 likes@Wesley Hobbs not really? he got the cokes and nearly got the butterfinger. and was also freed. thats what we call a finess
5 likes@Javito bingo
3 likes@Javito Nope not a CO. State Contractor.
0 likes@Whyhellothere Yes I do. Real friends in real life that is.
1 like@Wesley Hobbs 😳 you proved me wrong then
3 likes@Wesley Hobbs as it does for everybody else in the justice system. from judges to jailers. just sayin.
3 likesRespect and honor for criminals in our society is just disgusting. One of the many reasons our society is so broken.
3 likesI've had friends who convinced cops to get them a mcdonalds menu. Matter of fact nearly everyone does get some sort of treat from them while being interrogated. They usually ask you to talk and when you say no, they will have an offer for you. Often even say that if you had said yes the first time you would have gotten a real meal instead of some nasty soggy crap prepared by chef mike. The beauty of this clip is that the cop thinks Jeff is easy to turn over, but that's just his inexperience. Junkies are often some of the best liars.
0 likes@Wesley Hobbs Wesley heard Jeff is 6'5 and got triggered because Wesley is insecure about his own height.
0 likes@Serrated Edge I am not the slightest worried about a scumbag criminal. I live in the country. And a country boy can survive.
1 like@Wesley Hobbs dude you're the expert at your job that's a given but the fact that you chose one of the most miserable jobs in the world and you label every "jeff" you see as a scumbag doesn't really speak for much
1 like@Ichinek Its not a miserable job to me. I am helping to kept these people off the streets. And every once in a very long while, you get to make a difference when one actually listens.
1 like@Wesley Hobbs Define "criminal"
0 likes@Wesley Hobbs Just spent 40 days in county..... both sides of the door are the same. Good and bad people on both sides
0 likes“Wam bam thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell”🤣🤣🤣🤣
17 likesI think we got a good conclusion. I found his youtube channel and in one video he talk about how his life has been better than it was ever before. Good for Jeff.
0 likesi am just happy to see how far Andrew Schulz has came
0 likeslike seriously from a heroine addict to one of the best stand up comedian
How is it legal to continue questioning someone when they've asked to speak to a lawyer?
0 likesThis guy's a better interrogator than the interrogator themselves
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Straight facts
4 likesYou have a great channel. I wish YouTube would allow you to publish more.
1 likeDudes an absolute legend. Tragic he got caught up in heroin. I've been where he's been and it sucks major ass.
0 likesUntil you've gone through withdrawal you will never understand how the childhood you were trying to forget with booze or opiates manifests itself into physical symptoms that make you feel like you want to die or are just about to.
2 likesThis man, while talking slow and sounding like an obvious abuser , handled his situation better than anyone else I've seen on YouTube. Either the interrogators were just dogshit, or this man said the right things and subtly manipulated the whole interrogation. Even used a little bit of reverse psychology. That shit can only come from years of dealing with the system.
0 likesImagine you’re Jeff just casually strolling through YouTube and you see a video of you from years ago has 8 million views and you’re being studied like character in a movie
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"The f*ck?!"
195 likesLol I cant even imagine that it would be so surreal
62 likesLolzz
7 likesYou act as if he’s stillalive
8 likes@None He is, check the pinned comment. He has a youtube channel and he's making music.
128 likesYou can’t write this shit, gotta love it. Jeff is indeed a legend
16 likesHe seems smart enough to not care. Or drugged enough to be dead or no where near the internet...
3 likesannd still not getting any money for it
2 likesHes probably in prison. I hope he got clean and didnt get put on suboxone and is happy
4 likesI'm living my best life
44 likesThanks for the well wishes 😎
How flattering to have a video name you a legend
1 like@Jeffery C I looked through his channel. I can confirm that’s Jeff indeed.
2 likesWhat the fuck man
0 likeshttps://youtube.com/c/SYRENGEMUSIC this the actual channel
0 likesNow 15 million views.
0 likesThe revenue would buy a lot of heroine.
1 likeI like to think he has OD'd by now...
0 likes7 more million views in 10 months.. wow
0 likesI would find that so awesome if it was me 😂
0 likesApparently he's made a youtube channel "Legend of Jeff" and posts his part of the story here now
0 likes@Jeffery C you're my hero lol
0 likes7:42 “thanks for the coke”
4 likesThat made me love this guy.
honestly, im rooting for jeff
1 likeNow imagine a 15 year old in this situation, perhaps with 1000x more pressure, while they're drunk, and/or they have mental health issues. Been there! And they got me, before I wised up to their tactics. For juveniles they will deny you access to your parents for hours like they didn't get Jeff a lawyer.
1 likeOh and of course the "I'll get you a good deal" line - something cops have no power to offer and are in many cases prohibited from even saying, but of course they still do it. These situations unfold everyday in America. Unfortunately most people aren't as streetwise or as steadfast as good ol' Jeff
He sounded a thousand times more convincing than anyone else I've seen sat in that chair 😂
1 likeI have never laughed louder or harder than when the police officer told Jeff that he had the right to remain silent, proceeded to ask Jeff if he understood, and received total silence in response. xD
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lol like, what would happen if someone don't respond that?
172 likesI think you’ve laughed both louder and harder
83 likesYe
4 likesGold
2 likesYea this guy has some amazing humour. I hope he managed to get his life together, he seems like sort of a great guy.
146 likesIt’s only because they need to hear him say that he understands so that they can actually use this testimony if he does end up saying anything. Y’know “miranda rights” type beat
34 likesthat was pretty slick but why do u act like it was the funniest shit youve ever seen lmao
11 likesIKR, it’s like dickhead u told me I have right to remain silent lol
19 likesYour best bet is to not talk until your lawyer is there
6 likes@Peter Njeim true, gj
2 likes"You have the right to remain silent" xD
1 likeMy favorite part was when the cop said
16 likes"I can talk to your P.O. and the prosecutor and tell them Jeff's a good guy , he helped us out."
Jeff just laughed and cut him right off. Nah pal, don't even gimmie that.
@Das Krapital wow that’s crazy bro 😐👉🚪
2 likes@SpaceRanger Absolutely. I wouldn't say shit without a lawyer present either.
2 likespls.. that was so iconic. I almost choke on my water lmaO
0 likesHe really is a legend
0 likesJeff really did amazing with that interrogation
One things that comes from going through the system is knowing the tactics of police ("playing good cop?) , not only knowing your rights (to remain silent, for instanc) and excersising them, (as he sits in silence and says nothing), and recognizing the manipulation to get what they want (in this case likely a confession as he said.) "anything you say can and WILL BE USED AGINST YOU" is completely true. Talking tot he police NEVER helps your case. NEVER. Jeff is obviously aware of all this.
0 likesI love you can tell cops have gotten him before dude learned his lesson. Kept his mouth closed asked questions about specifics. Cops had quite literally nothing just wanted the usual suspect
0 likesI've never loved a YouTube comment section as much as I love this one. XD Love this community so much, my respect goes out to all of you <3
0 likesSo basically this is the street-smart guy. He knows how to deal with cops and is mature enough to not fall for their bluffs even though he has been a junkie for over 10 years
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of course he knows, he's already been through it
47 likesHe knows because he has done this a lot. He might have been caught off guard the first time but now he is more cautious.
63 likesThis common in long term criminals. They know that if they speak, they are in trouble. This is why long term criminals tell you to talk to the police
22 likes@Zero1 ZeroLast what you mean talk to the police
12 likesI don't think you could ever truly call a man like this Smart. Lol
0 likesI'm 35, been a junkie 16 years. Clean 3. I've been arrested 6 times, never did any time though. I learned very quickly that if the police want to talk to you to ask "Am I under arrest?". If they say anything but yes, ask to leave, and if they won't let you, lawyer up. If you are under arrest, lawyer up immediately.
40 likesTalking to the police is never, ever in your interest.
They'll give you shit, act like you are making a big mistake by asking for a lawyer. I just say they can talk to me all they want, I just would like a lawyer present.
He fell for it when he said the gun at his buddies house
0 likesLmfao exactly
0 likesYup
0 likes3:55 the kid is smirking.
1 likeI'm at a sort of crossroads right NOW. I NEEDED TO SEE THE LEGEND OF JEFF, AND TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ANTIHERO, AND A VILLAIN . I NEVER REFLECTED ON THE DIFFERENCE. I HOPE JEFF GOES FREE, BOTH WAYS.
0 likes@Luke R AMEN. ITS NOT A RIGHT FOR NO REASON.
0 likes@Catiloh I forgot to put don't lmao that's funny. Don't talk to the police
0 likes"Even though he has been a junkie for 10 years" whats that even have to do with it? lol you have this idea that all drug users are ignorant and immature but i promise you, you encounter FAR more "junkies" than you realize every day.
0 likes@Anthony R I know better than you think. It has everything to do with it since drugs impair your ability to think clearly and with years of use the damage becomes permanent.
0 likesI just find the irony hilarious that he doesn't have access to Heroin so the cops are supplying him with Coke.
6 likesI’m halfway through this and I cannot believe how in all I am of the breakdown of the psychology of antihero.
0 likesAs (already) methadone addict i confirm: jeff was (already) fucked up but he handled his situation like a pro...
0 likesNo don't over think it, I believe his " cult following" simply lies in the fact that he's funny.
3 likesJunkie or not. He’s a smart man. He’s asked for a lawyer several times because he knows there is nothing he says that won’t be simply used against him, so it’s best to keep his mouth shut 🤐
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Most "junkies" are smart. How do you think they figure out how to consistently get money for dope without holding down a job? It's sad that their wits aren't used for good. The ones that get clean usually excel in life
151 likesaint his first rodeo
15 likes@James Jenkins They start stealing from family then when family no longer allows them around, they steal from a bank and get caught and ohh... what is he being interrogated for again? 🤔
13 likes@Drake Oola Depends on the person. Plenty will just go from job to job.
27 likesDon't ever get underestimate junkies mind... They always find a way to get what they want if they're get not much stoned
8 likes@Seven O'Leary Agree 100%. Gambling causes plenty of people too steal from family members, yet huge casinos dot the land..
3 likes@Drake Oola this type of attitude and stigma is exactly why addicts recede from friends and society. they’re not some innate monster, the way people are treated directly effects how they behave.
13 likestrue... dont ever talk to the police without a lawyer!
1 like@Kinny Yeah no, not like I had to get my dad locked up for life for pointing a gun at me when he's a convicted felon. Life is a breeze when your parents are addicts, drugs are great. Totally didn't spend 5 grand bailing his ass out for him to do it all again. Didn't suffer a lifetime of abuse like waking up to him smashing a brand new laptop on my mothers face while she was asleep or walking upstairs to see him dangling her over a balcony by the neck. Didn't have a whole squad of officers show up at 4 am because my grandparents called in a gun threat when he showed up, grandpa didn't pull out a gun to defend himself either.
2 likesDrugs are great, everybody should do them.🙂
@James Jenkins 👏👏👏💯💯👏👏👏👌
0 likes@Drake Oola yes and I sympathise with you but you've had experiences with one addict, you can't judge them all based on your experience. Your dad clearly sounds like a nasty, unhinged pos! I think he would of done many of those thing without drugs
4 likesNever speak to the police.
2 likesWhat state is this?
0 likes@Drake Oola Your dad was a bad junkie, boo hoo. Stay out of peoples business and they won't pull guns on you. Ridiculous how simple some minds become because of trauma
1 like@Drake Oola yikes the amount of hate you’re getting is gross and naive, my town is full of addicts that steal to feed their addictions and my biological dad is one of those. Stolen from all of his family to feed that addiction. Sure some people can’t get help and are destined for the same path but these comments are trying to gate keep “junkies” and disregard facts… wow
2 likesIt's ALWAYS best to keep your mouth shut. Every defense lawyer in existence will tell you this. There is literally nothing you can say that will help you in the long run.
0 likes@Karl Marksman fair enough, as we’re also just 2 strangers on the internet typing shit 😂
1 likeDamn I wish we knew what happened to this guy. Otherwise, I'll just say that this video is well-titled.
0 likesYou only have "rights" when those in power let you have them if it doesnt inconvenience them too much.
2 likesHe's right about how coercive and manipulative this situation is.
0 likesThis is a hell of a video. The narration/script describing the interrogation, unlike many vids of this kind, is thoughtful and mature.
0 likesYou see kids, this is cooler than acting like you have a demon in your head or some shit...
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We all know demons enter through the anoos.
281 likes@• 72 years ago what
53 likesI understood that reference
28 likesI see, we all know whom you're talking about
48 likesBut tbh there some kids who actually suffer from voices in their head who DOSENT always tell them good things aka I’m one of those kids but they never tell me to cause harm to anyone other then myself.
14 likes@Suweyda Bashir Ik a lot of kids have them
4 likesTrue
0 likesdamn
1 like@iluvmyself anybody that watches these vids would be sm better😤
3 likesIt was demons man
9 likes@Suweyda Bashir there is a distinguishable difference between intrusive thoughts and auditory hallucinations. Intrusive thoughts are more frequently occurring in OCD while auditory hallucinations are a symptom of schizophrenia or psychotic disorder
10 likes@Krunk Cobain I have auditory hallucinations and I suffer from none of these things. Auditory hallucinations are actually quite common and can be as innocent as thinking you heard someone say your name. Or one of the most common is sting the TV or Radio playing in another room. Sooo everyone is just arguing about nothing. But I think we can all agree that the autism comment was super off base, offensive, and demeaning. So carry on friends I think my mom is calling me.
11 likesIf they got evidence on the suspect he better not call Sual, just call the demons
0 likes"I'm scared I'm scared I'm scared I'm scared" *does finger gun thing to head* that guy makes me wanna bash my head into a wall
14 likes@Sasha Holmes babe that's not autism
1 like@Phoenix Maybe It's DID (Dissociative identity disorder)
2 likesI understood that reference!!!!! 😂😂😂
1 like@Andrea White I have bipolar disorder and I believe in weird things like thinking that people can hear mind, to thinking that people are going to hurt me if I blink sometimes. And self-harm is high with BPD, too. So seeing this guy pisses me off. And that's why I commented that because I hate when people pretend to act 'crazy'. It's lame.
5 likes@Andrea White who's arguing? I'm trying to classify terminology because people above seem to be throwing opinions around without definition. The anecdotal evidence that you "have auditory hallucinations and suffer from none of these things" doesn't take away from either of my statements whichever you were responding to. Whatever "sting the TV or radio playing in the other room" is supposed to mean also doesn't detract that auditory hallucinations frequently occur in patients suffering from schizophrenia or psychosis. I didn't say people who suffer from auditory hallucinations are schizophrenic psychos... So I don't know why you felt the need to respond to me.
5 likesI don't care what your mom says, listen to daddy.
his playlist was hot garbage
4 likesthat guy pissed me tf off
2 likes@• 72 years ago geez why did this comment kill me bro? 😂
1 likeI see what you did there-
3 likes.
0 likesr u sick?
0 likesI literally just finished that video before. Imagine killing 17 innocent people.. bruh
3 likes@Omar-al3jweni ps4 Saul was the demons lawyer
0 likes@Nada Mostafa No that’s not DID. DID is essentially where the brain has created another consciousness, so it’s like now more than one person is living in one body. People with DID can’t hear the other person and only one person can be in control at a time. Typically when the other conscious is in control, the person with the disorder doesn’t have any memory of what happened when the identity is in control, but when the person with the disorder is in control the identity knows what is happening. Very distinctive from auditory hallucinations and psychosis.
0 likesI know which video ur talking about lol
1 like@• 72 years ago wtf man why do you argue thay way
0 likesThis isn't cool
0 likes@Matthew it can sometimes though but I maybe wrong because I heard bipolar depression, which I have, can lead to delusions of such, I believe. But I can be wrong.
0 likesit took me far too long to get what you are referencing lmao
0 likesWhat about the voice?
0 likesAyyyyyyyyyyeeeee😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesThe legend of Jeff is the second video I've seen from this channel. The first? The legal advice giving demon that lives in Nikolas' head .
0 likesLmfaoooo I just came here after that video
0 likes@God God*
0 likesHA BEST COMMENT
0 likesThe “ demon in my head” theatre act was that dudes last option though
0 likesYou can't compare the two. At most he robbed someone with a gun or at the least he didn't do shite. That croc gobbler killer 17 people and injured another 17. 😒👋👋
0 likesI’m glad I’m not the only one that thinks Jeff is likeable.
0 likesHad me giggling a few times 😂
Realized by the end why Jeff is called a legend. This was sooo funny! Loved it!
0 likesI watched this video for 4 hours on repeat and baby I ain't stopping it!
2 likesI feel like it should be against the law for a investigator to lie and say they have evidence against someone they're investigating when they really don't.
0 likesJeff: Literally, the only person in the room in handcuffs
4868 likesOfficer: "Jeff, you've handcuffed me"
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Fail
8 likesfigure of speech
15 likesIt'd be like saying to a parapalegic, "I've got no legs to stand on."
84 likes😂😂😂
3 likesAlmost certainly intentional choice of wording.
14 likes@Tooded87 TheSecond well yeah but he could've used something less literal lmfaoo
8 likes@unaesthetic zaria nah it was probably said to show the gravity of the situation
2 likes@Tooded87 TheSecond we know
4 likes@brooklyn nah you know but others dont
1 likeDid anyone else think it was odd that the interrogator kept coming back and asking questions after this, even though Jeff had asked for a lawyer?
2 likesWhat is this case ?
1 likeLITERALLY?????????? LITERALLY the only person in the room with handcuffs on??? That's CRAZY!!!!!
1 like@Professionally Correct Were you triggered by a simple word? I feel like you were. Your caps and punctuation mark volume is at level 10. Try to take a breath. Everything will be alright.
1 like@Tooded87 TheSecond well it was a fail of epic proportions.
1 like@HamshanksCPS NO
1 likeI was just about to post the same comment; what a poor choice of words.
0 likesI just came up here for a coke.🤣🤣🤣
0 likesThis dude is good,a life on the streets is what we all need to keep us sharp and keeping ourselves distanced from police physical and verbally.
We are all innocent before been proven guilty but yet the cop wanted him to go 1st hoping for some self incriminating evidence.The whole idea of having a police force for the good is too weed out the un trustworthy in society and cops are on that list but how many cops have arrested cops a very very very low number.
1 minute in and I already love Jeff.
0 likes7:41
0 likesWhat a fine, well-mannered young man.
the reason I root for Bad Santa, is because he says the things, that I, as a customer service employee, wish I could say.
2 likesThey try to coke him into a confession, but he's a heroin guy.
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Jesus Christ, made me smile.
797 likescan't cokes a heroin into coax territory
548 likesHahahahaha
64 likesTheres gold in them hills right there.
113 likes😂😂
19 likesYou won the internet
59 likesLol
6 likesThe best comment buddy
28 likesI've never laughed that hard out loud at a comment before 😂
24 likesThank you for that!
That's a good one
5 likesIf he was a cocaine guy the story would be much different
14 likesI feel awful for laughing at comments like these 😂😂😂
5 likesCoke was his request since it helps against the withdrawals of not getting any heroin at the right time, thats all really.
17 likes😁😁😁
0 likesShit 😂
3 likesLol
0 likesLmao
0 likesHe does better than the 25 year police detective who killed a woman. She may as well as just admitted the crime with her poor performance
21 likesOmg 😭😂
1 likeTrue, but never underestimate a act of kindness no matter what the motive.
5 likesGreen Garnish whoever told you this must be from some magical paradise where a Coke eases opiate wd’s. (Wouldn’t addicts load up on sugar instead of robbing & fucking ppl over if that worked?) Sweets don’t help; more opiates do
24 likesSolid comment buddy
3 likesba dump tshhh
2 likesAhhhhhh 😂🤣
1 like@M Y
3 likesI don't know where are you from, but they do crap like that, or similar. But they definitely do bribe H addicts to say whatever the police want. At key moments.
Lmaooo
0 likesLooks more like a pepsi guy to me.
2 likes@A nice bit of bread to mop up the last bit o curry nope code red mountain dew or 7up remix lol
0 likes@Sin'sirhaha
0 likesLol
0 likes@Luna EB c o a x
0 likesLet me guess, American?
Hahaha!!!
0 likes😂😂😂🤣
1 like😂😂😂😂 W
1 likepigs always be a year behind
1 likeWhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahaa this is the best 👌
1 like😩
0 likesNice one dude 😂
0 likesThey are hoping he will break through withdrawl. Its fucked up.
7 likes@Alina Yuditskaya thank you, lol
1 likeI’m dead💀💀💀
0 likesLOL
1 likeyoure a goddamn genius xp
HAHAHAHAHHA
0 likes😂
0 likes😆😆
1 likeThat pfp made me read it in jokers voice
0 likesI kicked it. 5 years clean.
6 likesBruh 😂 you already know a bunch of us dopeheads or former addicts over here dying laughing
3 likeslol dude
0 likes🤣🤣
0 likesLmfao...great comment
0 likesI thought the same shit 😭😂
0 likesSome heroin guys do cocaine also. A lot of heroin addicts like to add a little cocaine to their shot. But I'm sure this guy wouldn't want cocaine being sick on heroin. In fact you probably could get this heroin addict who is sick to confess by threatening to shoot him up with cocaine. Any heroin addict k n o w s that that cocaine is one of the worst things you can put in your body when your sick on heroin.
0 likesFuck that's good!!!
0 likes@Bushy Haired Stranger where's your comments about the fluff in the cocaine and you're getting cut dope if you're paying $65 a ball. Here where I'm at in Washington State. The worst cocaine we get or you'll find being sold on the street by some two-bit dealer will be 80%. But most cocaine that's sold in the Oregon and Washington area is around 90%. The reason why Coke is so good and so cheap now on the West Coast. Is because you got so many illegal aliens coming over the Border. You have mini drones flying things in to the US. People want heroin and methamphetamine and cocaine is not selling like it used to sell. Why would somebody want to buy cocaine when they can buy methamphetamine. Does a way better of a job keeping you active and keeping you up for a lot cheaper then Jonesy cocaine. Nobody wants to buy the cocaine except Rich college kids blowing their parents money. But any real drug addict will choose methamphetamine over cocaine any day unless there a crack addict. And like I said Mexicans coming to America now are bringing these drugs with them. They don't stop in California anymore because the welfare system sucks and there's already so many illegal aliens that they continued until they get to Oregon or Washington State. Now there's also such a huge population now in western Washington and Oregon that the Mexican sell cocaine for very cheap. So you are saying, or you did before you I guess deleted the comment. Said that if your getting cocaine $65 a ball you're getting cut or as you call it fluffed dope. But that's just simply not true it all depends on where you're located
0 likesI pepsi, what you did there.
1 like😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesBahahaha
0 likesLol
0 likesHaha
0 likes😅😆
0 likes@Green Garnish no, I’ve been in a situation where I was in jail detoxing and I drank about 2 sodas and it only made it worse with all the caffeine making me sweat even more
3 likesLove this comment
0 likes😂 HAHAHAHAaaaaa!🤣 Coke is Coke,Man!! LOLLLL And don't waste the Coke! 😆
0 likesThis was chef kiss
0 likesLMAO Woke up my kid 🤣🤣🤣
0 likesLooooool omg 😂
0 likes🤣
0 likesLol good one, it would have been perfect if you said cokes instead of coke. You know like coax
0 likes@Andromeda is Coming That was mu intent, but Im not an English native speaker.
2 likesGood line
0 likesbest comment award
0 likesdamn bro . you got the whole squad laughing .
1 likeThe pun😂😂😂😂
0 likesMakes sense
0 likesPerfect
0 likes🤣🤣
0 likes"Cokes" would have been better
0 likesmj .twardy L
0 likesHow did I just I laugh at the best dad joke ever u need more likes
0 likesHelps the comment so much that your pfp is heath ledger joker sounds like I can almost see heath/joker saying this
0 likesI just died reading this 🤣🤣🤣
0 likes🤣👏
0 likes😂
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@secretspacker wow that went flying over your head like 100 meters. Let me guess, not American?
1 likeBa ba ba da da da ba! 🥁
0 likes@Caroline you’re welcome lol just saving the world 1 comment at a time lol
0 likesFub
0 likes😂
0 likesLet’s be honest the only people that won here is The Coca-Cola Company.
2 likesHe is loyal being a hero
0 likesHe’s a heroin my opinion
1 likeSWEAR I THOUGHT THAT...LOL. METHODONE AT LEAST
0 likesWell played
2 likesTHIS. Well fucking played sir. Well fucking played.🤯😵😊👏🏼👏🏼
2 likesIs Pepsi ok?
0 likessubed
0 likes😂😂
1 likeLmao
1 like😆😂😂😂
1 likeThat copper shoulda racked him up with the real mcCoy coke & put him in instant withdrawl then the real fun & games would begin.
2 likes@Peter Funk Jeff would say i aint doin coke in front of a cop are you crazy?
2 likesBahahahahahahaha
1 like@Eddie Redd I'm detoxing right now and sometimes a soda is the ONLY thing that will make my stomach stop burning and let me burp and feel normal. Shit is weird. It's all over the place. Sometimes caffeine pisses me off and makes it worse, sometimes it helps. I'm quitting large doses of Alp (Xanax 10-20mg per day) though, so I know, not the same chemicals. Down to 2mg per day now. Almost done with this shit.
1 likePure gold.👌
1 likeShould have read him Joan of Arc would have been a lot of heroine in there
1 likeThe comment is so good that I screenshoted it 😂😂😂😂😂✋
1 like@Layla mohd I screenshoted your comment about screenshoting my comment.
1 like😂😂😂😂😂
1 like🤣 you sir are a fkn legend 😎 fpmsl 🤣
2 likesThis comment wins the internet hahaha
2 likesSugar helps with withdrawal
0 likes@Curt C. always somebody who doesnt get the joke.
1 likeIM A HERION ADDICT. I GET IT PRETTY FUNNY
0 likes😂
1 likeLmao right he would’ve talked real quick! You’ll do anything when you’re sick!
0 likesLOL, nice one.
1 likeI remeber reading this 6 months ago its still got me laughing
1 like😂
1 like@The Opinionist High Quality Opinions i was on methadone....thought the same thing...wives tale....went to a dentist...and he legit asked me if I was on methadone...he could tell by my teeth
2 likes@Alina Yuditskaya I'm a heroin addict and basically we crave sugar when we start withdrawing because we're not hungry we can't really eat but sugar is a small way to get a boost of energy, until you can get more opiates and subconsciously sugar gives a dopamine boost in the brain so you're essentially chasing getting high but it doesn't actually help it's more placebo. But yeah it's energy when you can't eat anything else
2 likesSugar is really good for you when you're having WDs like him
0 likesLol. Nice
0 likesNice
0 likesAy, that was beautiful.
0 likesLol
0 likesBest comment
0 likesGodamn your good
0 likes😂😂😂😂💯
0 likesThanks man lmao
0 likesLmfao
0 likesLoL
1 likejeff is the winner in my book
1 like@Marti same. He held his ground. Clearly innocent. Good guy. I'm a heroin addict too for past 20 years I'm 39- most of us are good caring people.
2 likes:) ..wtf
0 likesbest comment ever
1 likeOh hohoho! Hat's off to you, my good man! Lol
2 likesLmao
1 like🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likeVery good
1 like😂😂😂
1 likeic wat u did there
1 likeLmao I hate hard drugs cuz of lost friends but JESUS CHRIST i actually laughed out loud
1 like@Andy Essma "Let's put a smile on that face."
1 likeAt least hook him up with some suboxone
0 likesSee yourself out please lmaoooooo
0 likesoh my heck lmaoooo
1 like@Josh Dunham someone being a heroin addict made you smile?
0 likes@trap ross no, a good joke is what made me smile
1 like🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likehaha back when coke actually had coke lmao
2 likesBest Comment🤦♂️🤣😅
1 likeTruth !!
1 likeOnce you like dog food its a wrap
1 likeWOW I laughed so hard 🤜🏻🤛🏻
1 like💀💀💀
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesHHHHHHAHAHAHAAAAA
0 likesGold gold gold commentary‼️🏆🥇💛
@Dylan Kerhin YUUUP
0 likesBruh...lol
0 likes@Moe Bozz 😂😂
0 likes😂😂
0 likesHe's 155 lbs. He only confesses with Diet Coke.
1 likeStraight A+ comment. I bow to you.
0 likesHow the hell did this get 40k likes lol... it’s a good comment don’t get me wrong, internet is weird 😂
0 likeshe likes downers not uppers
0 likesThis comment is like an onion. It's got layers, and it's beautiful.
2 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesBAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one :D
0 likesGod damn it, man, lmao
0 likes@H.X T 😂😂
0 likesWhy not both? 😛
0 likesWith a little morph he would be in!
0 likesStg throw him a Bag
0 likesLol
0 likes@Green Garnish coke-coax play on words kinda deal but that is in fact true
0 likeslol
0 likesLmao this is my #1 comment for this year. 11/10
0 likesArent we all?
0 likesAfter watching many of these interviews, I wouldn’t trust any of these cops for a second.
0 likesThis is actually abusive. Coming from an interviews and interrogations fangirl. Using his medical dependence on any substance- be it Prozac or heroin- should shit tank any confession, anyway.
0 likesThe interrogator almost got him by questioning what door he came through but Jeff realized he didn’t give af he just wanted him to keep talking. Respect to Jeff man
1 likeI’ve never been arrested, but I had a bad run with oxy and morphine for about three years. All I can think about is how much pain he’s going through in there, detoxing. I wouldn’t talk either.
2 likesOfficer: “...and you have the right to remain silent.”
1815 likesJeff: remains silent
Officer: “You weren’t supposed to do that.”
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That was so funny 😂
18 likesIkr. It was clear to me he understood.
4 likesThey bank on you hearing your rights, but not understanding them.
3 likestime stamp please
0 likes@Topdog 0:35
0 likesThis guy is really a legend. Ill never be this cool
0 likesthis was amazing, he was able to get 2 cokes and almost got a butter finger all for free
0 likes10:50, this is the first time I have ever seen a suspect make an interrogator nervous or stutter 🤣
0 likesHe's absolutely correct, he's smart. You have the right to remain silent ANYTHING you say will be can be used against you
0 likes"I can also tell your parole officer that you helped me out." "That doesn't mean dick." Lmao I love this guy
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lol I love that, gonna start using that
38 likesCuz either way he’s gonna be on that parole right 😂😂
11 likesjeff!
1 likeHahahqhha
0 likesI hope he gets cleaned up.
12 likesImagine how smart Jeff is when he’s not using.
I really hope he gets released and stays clean.
Again, more proof if ever required.
0 likesNever ever ever ever speak to the cops, ever.
"I want heroin."
10 likesGets heroine
"I want coke."
Gets coke
"I want a lawyer."
Gets lawy-
Am I wrong to say, that this whole interview becomes unlawful the second Jeff says "I want a lawyer" in 8:33"?
0 likesMakes me sad that he said he wanted a lawyer and they held him there for 7 hours without a lawyer
0 likesofficer: "You have the right to remain silent"
4462 likesJeff: Remains silent
Officer: FUCK me, what have I done
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A coke will get him to talk a lil more 😂
89 likesthe miranda rights are to protect civilians, not cops. its EXACTLY why the law is how it is
54 likes@2pacalypse and if the coke doesn’t work. Try heroine.
23 likes@TheDutchisGaming lmao
0 likesGod bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!) 🥰🤍
2 likes@shoulderBirb I don’t think they’re comment is related to the comment it seems kinda random tho
1 likei’m actually cracking tf up rn thanks lmao that’s a hilarious comment
0 likes@2pacalypse I guarantee he'd start singing like a canary if they got him some dope or methadone lolol
1 like@Celtia yikes- i mean- I don't believe in god either but c'mon- that's a little much-
3 likes@shoulderBirb well you be the first in line to join the gustappo lmao
0 likes@Fuk Youtube well if you say it like that- they're not going to take it seriously and just be pissed off-
0 likes@shoulderBirb i understand your point, but if you're actually trying to get through to her, you should use a valid argument and not a rhetorical question that can be easily answered with a couple of bible verses...
0 likes@rebeccabecca one step at a time
0 likes@Alex Davenport uh what? we are talking about nazis now?
0 likesIm glad I can watch these videos and learn what to do during a police interrogation lol
0 likesWell he knows cops pretty well. I guess this guy missed limits and care when young . unconsciously he is looking for attention.
0 likesThis man is like a video game protagonist from 2010
0 likesI don't know if he's an antihero, but he's certainly the smartest suspect on any of your videos.
1 likeInterrogator: “You have the right to remain silent”
5588 likesJeff - challenge accepted
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Jeff is a giga chad
64 likes@Elizabeth Burgess Fr
2 likesHe walked too
5 likesGREAT comment 👍🏻💥
0 likes@Elizabeth Burgess What’s a giga chad?
0 likes@C Rogers a chad, but a big one
6 likesLaughed way too hard at this 🤣
0 likesInterrogator: surprised pikachu face
3 likesSometimes we don’t realize the amount of trolling we did
0 likesI fucking love this guy. Well done. Sad he's struggling with addiction. Seems like he had potential he might have wasted. I wish the best for him.
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It’s never too late
0 likesHe said he wanted a lawyer and nothing happened. If someone asks for a lawyer, don’t the police have to stop? Every time they seem to accept that Jeff isn’t going to talk to them “take me back to the cell”, there’s a break but he ends up back being questioned and there’s still no lawyer.
1 likeIf I had to guess he's very likely guilty but at the same time I gotta respect the dude, cop clearly was trying to make him confess by abusing his withdrawal and somehow stayed strong, I know I and 90% of other people here wouldn't be able to do that
0 likesBeing in a gown and handcuffed while sitting in a police interrogation room after committing a robbery would definitely be a good sign that ur under arrest
0 likesJeff was the smartest man in that room that day. You never, ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever, talk to the police. They are allowed to, and often do, lie to you. Even if you are 100% innocent, you will tell them something that they can turn against you.
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Amen!
38 likes@Kei Kei I guess you can call him street smart?
154 likes@Kei Kei Meanwhile there are folks who are in respected professions yapping their way into years of prison unnecessarily. Pretty damn smart indeed.
80 likes@lizzy rosario im not a comprehensive teacher. Not my job to spell shit out for u. Connect the dots
14 likes@Brandon Hancock based asf
9 likesAnton Nikitin a lot of people try to explain their side to prove their innocence and up fucking themselves
3 likesIn my country that is firbidden to lie.
1 likeYes i know. I don't know what his problem is ha
2 likesSo you have to acknowledge your rights and call upon them for there to be proof that you’re not just ignoring or refusing to accept your rights
1 likeAnton Nikitin you’re oblivious. You know how many innocent and guilty people both go to prison because they don’t terminate the interrogation and get a lawyer? It seems obvious but a ton of times people just don’t get a lawyer. So yeah he’s smarter than most in that regard.
7 likes@Kei Kei I bet youd do much worse than jeff. I would for sure
5 likesAnton Nikitin when did I praise him?
1 likeThat's exactly why you have the right to remain silent
1 like@Kei Kei He outsmarted two cops whilst coming down off heroin......Imagine what he could do if he was clean.
12 likesdude, that doesnt mean you shouldn't trust cops.
1 likeIvy Waterstrong you should trust them when you need help but when you get arrested or stopped you shouldn’t trust them
3 likes@Nicholas Sternon that's bullshit. The only reason you wouldn't be able to trust them is if they were a bad cop, or if you were guilty. that's how people get killed or shot, when they dont listen to what an officer says. My entire family is made up of cops, soldiers, or airmen. I know what I'm talking about. Take the time to walk up to a cop and ask them what their life is like. A couple may tell you that they have a family. They are regular people, just like you or I. There is no reason not to trust them unless they give you a reason not to. Be safe.
2 likes@Ivy Waterstrong lol, I got taught not to talk to the police in my official elevator instruction (for janitors) by a fireman. Not under any circumstances if you do not have to. Literally even if they are asking you for water or where the bathroom is. Here is a lawyer thats explaining why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
5 likesBrass Nickel So, you’re saying you wouldn’t have turned sober if you weren’t incarcerated?
2 likes@Alec Cline I think it was just a timeline of events happening to him, I do not know how you reach the conclusion that he is insinuating that not being incarcerated would have led to farther substance abuse.
1 likeActually if you do some math: he is 14 years clean, and now 36. he got off prison when he was 22. and got into prison when he was 13.
That means he turned sober AFTER being freed of incarceration. So either he was already on it when he was 12-13 or he got addicted IN PRISON.
I’ve had cops tell me multiple times that my friends had ratted me out for things that I didnt do. It made it pretty easy to call their bluff.
4 likes“Can and WILL be used AGAINST you.”
2 likes@Kei Kei have you not seen the hundreds of videos on this channel of people talking to the police and incriminating themselves?
2 likesIf it was so smart this channel would hardly have any videos to go through
@jakehr3 all I am saying it's not that difficult to say ''i want a lawyer''. He didnt outsmart the cops, it's not like he got out free and took their car lmao. The cops cant do sh*t when the person they're interrogating asks for a lawyer.
1 likeIt's probably because that kind of situation happened to him before lmfao.
1 likeOG-Corn Bread based
0 likesThis is true. I got accused of robbery and they claimed they had all of this evidence and that multiple people had called me in, but I knew it was all BS cuz I didn't do anything lol
0 likes@Kei Kei you don't even know the difference between definitely and 'definately,' which isn't even a word. Shows how 'special' you truly are.
1 likeYes, a million times yes. And the game they play best is to try and get you thinking you can outsmart them. You can't, there is nothing you can say that will help you out. And you're not talking to them, you're talking to a jury watching a video many months or years down the road.
2 likesThe only way to win that game is silence, which this guy does perfectly and the cop's reaction is priceless. With silence he just won. That's what winning in that situation actually looks like. Not witty zingers or some other trash. That guy is in very, very, very real danger with people that are truly monstrous in what they'll do to him (and won't lose a wink of sleep over it either) whether he's guilty or innocent. They want to put someone away, they'd be happy if it's the right guy, but if it looks like it could fit with this guy then that's good enough for them too. Because they can't get them all right all the time, and that has to be good enough.
He starts talking later which is a HUGE mistake, but he starts so strong.
@Brandon Hancock Considering he's probably either still stealing things to fund his heroin addiction, in prison or dead from an overdose, it seems unlikely he outsmarted anyone in the grand scheme of things
0 likes@Kei Kei you obviously haven't watched many of the videos on this channel, plenty of people start talking.
0 likes@Kubomi I guess it wouldnt be much of a channel if most vids were about people saying the line : I want to talk to my lawyer. Watch a show called the first 48. Plenty of low iq criminals say this line, there's absolutely nothing spectacular about it
0 likes"I think it's in your best interest" is the biggest lie I've ever heard
1 likeJeff is smarter then the cop interagating him . Jeff is Smarter then any college degree suspect who talked to cops .
3 likesI don't think I could hold in my laughter if they told me they were here to help me.
0 likesfirst they denied him methadone, which can be legitimately dangerous, then when he exercised his right to get a lawyer to not be interrogated anymore, they proceeded to interrogate him for at least 5 more hours. what.
0 likes"Wham bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell"
7382 likesModern day poet
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I loved that lol.
46 likesSpeech 100
55 likesIts a Haiku
86 likesWham bam
thank you for the coke
put me back in the cell
@Gopi Mishra[EXT] omg yes, beautiful haiku
15 likes🔥🔥🔥👌🏻
1 likeAlas!
52 likesThis gift of drink, refreshing as it is,
Has done sated mine thirst,
But has failed to whet mine tongue.
Prithee, return me to thine keep,
For there is naught left for me to say.
- Jeff
omg read this comment right as he was saying it.
4 likesDamn right he finished that Coke too!
4 likesWham bam😂😂
3 likes@Apples That was toe curling.
0 likesMost of it was incoherent.
@Alex Briggs Lighten up, Shakespeare.
3 likessniff it was beautiful
2 likes@Apples I think I love you
3 likes@Gopi Mishra[EXT] Is it? Aren't the syllables supposed to be 5-7-5?
0 likeswham bam slam poetry
1 likeSounds like a rapper to me lmfao
1 likeI was waiting for someone else to quote this. It’s for real the best thing I’ve heard in a while
0 likesThat “Bad Santa” example is accurate af lmao, like really 😂
0 likesI’m from Georgia and actually this “antihero”
0 likesis a thing. Pretty much we are all laid back and viewed as ignorant because of our accent but we can be pretty crafty when it’s all said and done.
These are great. Been watching for a long time now. Just wish the sound was better or there were captions for the full video. I have to constantly turn it way up and then down and way back up again on every single video. I tried it on my tv and still the same thing. Is there anyways to equalize the sound or do captions? I know it’s a lot of work but it’d be very helpful.
0 likesWhy could they question him without an attorney five hours after he requested an attorney??
2 likesJeff: "You playing good cop?"
8553 likesCop: "No, usually I'm the prick."
Jeff: "You look like the prick."
🤣 this shit was hilarious.
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For real 😂 you know that cop felt hard with that response then got immediately shut down by a “junkie”
174 likesI said the same thing as he said it no lie
12 likesI lold. Im going to hell
7 likes😂🤣😅😂🤣😅
4 likes@Gerardo Ibarra No
5 likesThe whole thing is funny af he’s got a good personality 🤣
32 likesFucking legend.
9 likes@Clititus ok weirdo
1 likeLmao
0 likesI am 100% with Jeff... I only experienced that cop for 5 minutes and already he was noticably a prick.
5 likesI’m rolling 😂😂
0 likesgonna watch the entire thing without skipping just for this...
0 likesoohhh...it was soon lmfaoaoaoaoao very soon BWAHAHAHHAHAHA
0 likesMy favorite part already
0 likesLmao something Jean Paul would say
1 likewhy are there so many emojis in this comment reply section
0 likes@cat garfield 😃😂😅😄🤮☺️🤞🏽🥶🐦😅
0 likesMe: idk who this “Jeff” is but I’m ready to psychoanalyze him… 🤗
0 likesNarrator: people tend to love the antihero bc they can relate to their flaws and failures
Me: 🦗🦗🦗 … well played 😔
This video is how I found your channel. I miss Jeff.
0 likesI was totally cracking up at the 2nd Coke cause I knew that he was only in there for the sugar!
0 likesIf I was the cop I would have laughed when he said "You look like a prick", probably why I'm not a cop.
0 likes"You have the right to remain silent" followed by him remaining silent to an officer asking 10 times if he understands made me laugh hard. I think he understood
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I was waiting for the little sign that says "YouTube is not responding"🐴
9 likesCommon police tactic to get you to say yes
6 likesHe still has to say he understands his rights. He can be silent after he says yes
1 like@Matilda incorrect, he doesn't have to acknowledge anything and he shouldn't
21 likesThe silence itself is aknowledgement enough in my book
1 like@MannyTwice as in for anything to be admissable in court he would have to verbally confirm before answering questions. But you're right, don't talk to the cops lol
2 likes@Denis L well according to the law book, silence itself isn't good enough. if you're choosing to invoke your right to remain silent, you have to verbally announce it.
2 likes@Rick Shorts "If you're choosing to invoke your right to remain silent, you have to verbally announce it" doesn't sound at all like a catch-22 to you?
8 likes@MannyTwice actually that's wrong there's been court precedent that if you don't invoke your 5th admendment right then you don't get it. In 2013 In a case where a subject didn't say anything at all he was ruled to not have invoked his 5th admendment rights. You have to say something otherwise it'll be used against you also.
3 likesI keep coming back to this video...it's so good esp that part
0 likes@イカの嵐 (Storm Squid) no. unless you some how think that verbally announcing that you're invoking your right to remain silent is incriminating.
1 like@Rick Shorts I think that verbally announcing your desire to stay silent by definition makes you no longer silent. That's the joke. The absurdity of having to say out loud that you want to stay silent.
1 like@イカの嵐 (Storm Squid) oh yeah, I mean, I get the irony of it. it seems a bit silly and I'm not really sure what sort of impact literally staying silent vs. invoking silence would even have on a legal case, but it is something the courts have ruled on 🤷
1 like@Matilda whats wrong with not understanding his right, the still got nothing out of him
0 likes@Joe Walton which case? I'd like to see
0 likes@Joe Walton This is tricky because invoking your 5th in court is different than with police. A judge can order you to answer a question and hold you in contempt for not doing so unless you verbally say "I'm invoking my 5th amendment right to remain silent" which warrants a valid response to the question and clear you of any possible contempt. In a police setting you are not required to respond to them, they want a verbal "yes" because if you haven't invoked your right to an attorney or silence yet they can talk to you, but if you haven't given that verbal "yes" then you can always claim later you didn't understand the rights as explained causing that evidence collected to be harder to use.
0 likes@Nosib https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/cert/12-246
0 likes2013 case of Salinas vs Texas although some have pointed out that he answered other questions but stayed silent about the casings matching his gun and that him being silent was used against him in court and wasn't thrown out by the judge like the defense wanted to. The supreme court ruled that silence in itself isn't invoking your 5th admendment and therefor isn't protected, now will this happen always of course not but can it be possible. I would rather err of the side of caution when it comes to my freedom and possibly been prosecuted. The only questions I would answer to a cop that is interrogating me on a case they suspect me of is I would like my lawyer and after that say I'm invoking my 5th admendment right and stay silent from there on. This has been shown to be very helpful in many cases even in some that the guilt was pretty much already known, but the second you give them any information that they can find untrue or think they have evidence real or not you can screw youself.
@Joe Walton I dug a bit too and it's worth noting that the supreme court affirmed this ruling (Salinas v. Texas) that the defendant must invoke their fifth amendment right and that silence is ambiguous as you said in your reply.
1 likeAll of this though only transpired because the defendant voluntarily went along with police and answered questions yet fell silent when a specific question was asked. Don't get to this point - ask for a lawyer and say you intend to remain silent as soon as the police want to ask you questions.
A real life truly inspirational (to crooks) antihero
0 likesHe speak with his heart and his guts. Most of us cant do that.
1 likeCop: “You have the right to stop answering anytime until you talk to a lawyer”
0 likesJeff: I want my lawyer
Cop: See this is what I don’t understand…
…Bruh…
Funniest thing in the world is seeing the cop ask “do you understand?” over and over after he was told he had the right to remain silent. What an idiot 🤣
0 likes“You playin’ good cop?”
29725 likes“No, Usually I’m the prick.”
“You look like a prick.”
Silence
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Lmao no sense of self preservation 😂
525 likes@Bink Just no fucks given.
599 likesmans wasnt even trying to insult him he was just speaking truthfully
634 likesInstant legend for that after that silent treatment
169 likesBeen on this video for 5 mins, been stuck at that part the whole time. Cant stop laughing
99 likesBest comeback ever lol
50 likesSmiles !
13 likesI'm doing my job then !
This had me rolling 😂😂😂
10 likesThat was awesome
9 likes😂
1 likeThat is called: A pro gamer move
11 likesLmbo 😂
1 likeIt is what it is 🤷♀️
1 likeReminds me of Matthew McConaughey in True Detective
6 likestime stamp?
2 likes9/10 times criminals omit to their guilt solely off what they say … keep your mouth shut and always ask for a lawyer.
5 likes@blaqalbert He was just giving him guidance for future role opportunities 😂
0 likes@Justin Wiechmann me too
2 likesIn reality there wasn't silence
1 like@Sarcastimation they were forced to let him go the next day because they had no charges to press, just arrested a random guy for nothing
7 likes@Sarcastimation do you dip your boot in ketchup? Or do you just raw dog it??
4 likesi am from germany .... what does ´´you look like a prick´´ mean?
1 likeI would have laughed to be honest 🤣
1 like???
0 likes@Justin Wiechmann I just about died too fuck that was so funny 🤣
0 likes@Celina "Du siehst aus wie ein Arsch / Penner" (umgangssprachlich)
1 likeGotta admit I laughed my arse off when he said it.....
0 likesI got a hardy LOL out of that part 😄
0 likes@Sarcastimation what a sad worldview.
0 likes🤣
0 likesThe cop gets called on a patronising an transparent attempt to be Jeff's buddy
1 likeThat was the most savage answer ever 😭♥️
1 like🤣
0 likes🤣
0 likesAHAHAHAHAH
1 likeapply water to burnt area
0 likesThat made me chuckle
1 likeThat was goooldd
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesrecord scratch
1 like🤣🤣🤣
0 likesAnd how he pointed to the "good cop" was hilarious, too <3
0 likesSavage lol
1 likeLMFAO!
2 likesFkn amazing
0 likes@Bink this is a man who's gone through a system so many times, he knows the process as well as any veteran cop. In gaming terms, he's flexing on the noobs.
0 likesEven tarantino wouldnt get a dialogue as this .... the roasted him as a wingless chicken
0 likes@Justin Wiechmann they couldn't get an honest man
0 likesproved his honesty right there.
0 likesThanks for the subtitles
0 likesOMG
0 likes1:33 incase anyone missed it
0 likes@Sam • 6 years ago Watch the damn video.
0 likes“Wham, bam, thanks for the coke; put me back in the cell” might be my new favorite quote of all time
0 likesJeff: explains what happened according to him.
0 likesPolice: you didn't tell me what happened.
All in all, a good look into police strategy to extort a false confession.
Police: so there's no way you could have been so drunk so wouldn't remember what you did?
Jeff: f@ck no man
Police: ok, so you remember you robbed the place.
Wait, what?
I sincerely hope Jeff's alright.
"Thanks for the coke" Mans a living legend.
0 likesI literally laughed out loud when the 1st theory after release was mentioned lol... corporate marketing for Coca-Cola 👌🤣
0 likes'no. Usually I'm the prick.'
2464 likesJeff: 'you look like a prick'.
This is absolute gold. This channel is sensational.
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Its 4 am but I don't care, I bust out laughing at that
17 likesHaha and then the prick was gone for the rest of the video. That is a victory for Jeff right there
26 likesI literally laughed out loud. The detective walked right into that one 🤣
9 likes@4xdblack 5:30am and i did the same
0 likesikr! I'm obsessed
0 likesMy favorite part
0 likesSuspect : " My Name is Jeff. Call some Help! "
0 likesInterrogator : " Why? You need a Laywer? "
Jeff : " No! 'cause Yo' Guys are way in over your Heads! "
Let me tell you being an addict makes you root for him even more 😊
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Even tho I'm not an addict I still root for him! 🙂
3 likesCop : you understand your rights?
1 likeJeff : yes I want a lawyer
Cop : 🥴
3:50 - yet for some reason, the kid is holding his laugh 😂
0 likesHe seems like a functioning addict. He's probably still doing heroin and working construction. Jeff is a boss.
0 likesDetective: *aggressively grabs Coke can*
6396 likesJeff: can’t I finish that?
Detective: Er…yeah *ego crushed*
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Haha 😂
19 likesLol
3 likesDetective said you can finish that, make it quick 😂 ego definitely crushed
111 likes“i got things to do” hahahaha
22 likesdefective
4 likesMake it quick
5 likesThanks for the subtitles
2 likes@Slaay_K “Where’s that butterfinger you promised me?”
18 likesHey knew what he did was rude amd only did it because he was frustrated good on him though for I think recognizing it and correcting his mistake
30 likeshe grabbed it really peacefully
1 likeNo- ego restored.
0 likes@The Man Fiery but mostly peaceful.
0 likes@HereIsWisdom 1318 friggin copper
1 like@TeeKay Trailers He cried in the squad car
0 likesI thought he was gonna say no. Ahahahah 😂😂🤣😂🤣😂
0 likesonly a heroin addict could say "pretty sober" and have me completely trust their state of mind.
0 likes“Wham bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell” 🤣
3 likesThey do what they want, when they want.
2 likes“You help me I’ll help you” bs. Don’t fall for it.
Also, only do crimes against crooked politicians and corporations.
Once Jeff knew the cop needed his acknowledgement, he just had to get petty
0 likesMan, Christian Bale is such a versatile actor.
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LMFAO
23 likesAhah
3 likesBruh he literally played this guy in that movie.
27 likesBrilliant
3 likesLol
2 likesHAHAHAHAHA
5 likesIs this machinist part 2?
12 likesAhhhhh hahaha
1 likehahahah
1 like😂
1 like😂
1 like@Floyd McGregor No. This is an actual interrogation recording.
0 likes@21 Seven Wow. Nice one Captain Obvious.
2 likes@Floyd McGregor I feel sad but you need to actually explain your jokes in the future because there are people here who does not have humor and think you are stupid when they don't get sarcasm.
1 likeChristian Bale is at your party - He’s alone
0 likesEating all your Queso dip
Talking on your phone
don't u mean Bernie Madoff '666'
0 likes@mamie monrovia I’m only 6868 because 6969 was taken.
0 likeshaHAA!!!
0 likes@Floyd McGregor hahahah
1 likeMore like Ethan Hawke lol
0 likesLMAO
0 likesIf he’s not him, he has definitely inspired him
0 likesLol
0 likesLol I was thinking Christian Bale with Joe Walsh voice-over.
0 likesJeff is my new hero. People should watch this video as it is exactly the way to deal with police. Notice he was released within 24 hours & beat the cops out of at least two cokes.
0 likesThe time to tell your side of the story is in a courtroom with a lawyer, not to a cop who’s only job is to convict you.
11:20 classic lmao “That doesn’t mean dick.”
3 likesI thought that the minute a person asked for a lawyer and the police continued on questioning meant that none of this was admissible - is that correct or is it state to state?
1 likeIf they release Jeff then that should show how full of shit the detective is. That’s why they try the buddy routine. In this case Jeff knows the cops tricks. He has definitely been in the system and he did the right thing. Weather he did it or not . You should never talk to law enforcement without a attorney present.Because everything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
1 like“Do you understand the rights I’ve read to you”
6474 likes“No”
“Huh”
“Yes” priceless 😂
8:20 time stamp
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That got me weak as well😂
88 likesThe best part of this video 🤣🤣
39 likesIt gets me everytime
25 likesI laughed when he did that 😂😂😂
19 likesSTOP WITH THE CRY LAUGHING EMOJIS!!!
10 likes@Elephant In The Room 😂😂😂
19 likes@Elephant In The Room 😂😂😂😂
15 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣Priceless
9 likes@Elephant In The Room 😂😂😂 just for you 😂😂😂
19 likes@Just Soap hahaha
6 likesLmao exactly
3 likesYou people are easy to please.
4 likes@Taylor Black right 🤦🏾♀️
1 like😭🤣🤣
1 likeThanks for the subtitles
2 likesSometimes i did the same when my mom say 'huh'😂.. she getting more mad and beat me more😂
3 likes@Elephant In The Room 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 like8:20
1 like@a random person lol good thinking I’ll put the time stamp on my comment all credit to you random person
0 likesYou go, Jeff. Love that guy lol
0 likes"Wam Bam thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell" What a legend
1 likeThe Anti Hero just says and does what we are all truly feeling and thinking!
0 likesHe's definitely right with that one. Guilty or not
0 likes, the police are not your friend just like your boss and co-workers aren't your buddies.
Only robbery Jeff pulled off was getting 4 cokes out of those suckers.
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#savage
1643 likesI liked this but it already has 420 likes so it can't get any better
1052 likes@Mace StillMace not anymore lol
250 likes@Mace StillMace Wow - can't believe this comment blew up like this. I need to start an only fans.
1383 likesBased
76 likesNo robbery,they gave him those cokes.And thinking about it,isn't that a poisoning charge?Attempt to cause harm to Jeff's health.(leaving aside the very real psychological degradation the situation in itself inflicts,both ways.)
193 likesThat's like 400K in prison
152 likesMace StillMace well sadly ur wrong it always could get better. This comment probably describes you
16 likeslulz
4 likes@Mace StillMace You're a hero we need, but don't diserve.
27 likes1337 likes pog
5 likes@Gavin James my man needed those cokes for withdrawals bruh. issa wonder what a ton of sugar and caffeine can do
100 likesThis gets funnier each time they bring a coke out.
79 likesV @Mace StillMaceno my cn
4 likesAnd you are celebrating the acts of this low life. Obviously, the police is not acting on his best interest, but this guy is destroying himself.
11 likesFirst it was heroine now this? Cmon Jeff your better than this.
20 likesCode Newb is
3 likesCode Newb is
2 likesThey give them coke so they can get prints off them.
20 likes...but it cost him twelve hours.
7 likes@Aubrey J finally, someone who knows the real age generation of boomers! They were the heaps of babies (the baby boom) born after WW2, inc my aging parents
10 likes@Gage Mahaffee lmao, buddy... they have had Jeff's prints for a long time. I'm sure his addiction is in part fueled by the hopelessness of his situation and it's time to stop ruining people's lives over mental issues... it also costs more per year to imprison someone than it does to attend most colleges.
42 likes@Gage Mahaffee You slow af.Like the 1st thing they didn't do in booking is take his mugshot and prints.You watch to many movies.
28 likesLol
4 likesTried to steal a butterfinger too hahahaha
15 likes@Samuel Lourenço Thats HIS CHOICE. Life, Liberty, Persuit of..aww fuck it, you wouldnt understand.
17 likesThe unHandyman goat
4 likesUvencio Menendez LoL
0 likes@Gage Mahaffee if he's in custody they have his prints already
12 likesHe wants real coke
4 likeslol fr he kept getting so much coca cola from them lol
4 likesComedy
1 likeBAHAHAHA
2 likesYea he did....fucking hero
4 likesPlot twist: it was his plan all along....
8 likesLMAO!
2 likesHoly shit 6.9k likes!
2 likesThe Cheese The popularity has changed my entire life. I would have never imagined.
4 likes@The Cheese It's def. big time!
3 likes@Mace StillMace Aaand now it has 6.9k. Very nice
7 likes@Gage Mahaffee Ask for a straw 😂.
4 likesWhat kind of coke
2 likesYeah bro
1 likeLmaoooo
1 like👏🏽
1 likeLmaooo
1 like@Jay Sands Sure it's a choice, a pretty shitty one.
2 likesI was totally thinking that exact thought myself 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂
4 likesi appreciate the humor here, but how is it robbery if it was willingly offered?
1 like@Mace StillMace try 10,000
2 likes@Reginald House it sure blew up!
1 like@Jay Sands thank you!
1 likeLol
1 likeLmfao
1 likeGage Mahaffee If you’re arrested for a misdemeanor they take your prints as soon as you get booked. If it’s a felony they take dna samples, this was a felony. They had his dna when he was booked.
7 likes“Where’s that butterfinger you promised” 😂
7 likes@Miss Maddie I'm thinking I probably should have liked it anyway...
1 likelmao 👍
1 like@Weekend Home Projects lmaoo
1 likeI died!!!
1 like@Weekend Home Projects What's your secret to having your comments get blown up? It wasn't even that funny 😂
2 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🚫🧢🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
3 likesHaaaaaaa...fucking good one...Jeff's the man....
1 like@Gage Mahaffee oh stop his prints are in the system ,stop watching csi miami &go bck to sleep.
2 likes@Weekend Home Projects aw that's so cute, u the man .I love when ppl are genuinely happy for the lil things ✌🐢
1 like@Molly's Lips💋💋 u right but it is a common tactic to get people in the system.
0 likesmmm
1 likeSamuel Lourenço sounds like that guys business
0 likesLmaooo😂
1 likeFOURTEEN THOUSAND LIKES!!! Hahahahaha. Best comment ever!!
1 likegr8guitarplayer I do what I can...haha
1 likePERIODT
1 like@Gage Mahaffee They will have his prints. As he stated, he has already been in the system multiple times.
2 likes😂😂😂😂😂
1 likeCarl Friedrich Gauss because they were expecting an exchange for it, which they were robbed of. Not robbed of coke
3 likesJeff wasn’t playin with them folks.
1 likekentuckymonkeys Story goes...he never does
1 like@Kasper Vestergaard But the point is, WHO CARES what some random dude wants to do with his life? Hes obviously intelligent enough to outsmart these state thugs. All he wanted was a Butterfinger and a good high...WHO CARES???
3 likes@Weekend Home Projects . only fana! That's the only logical reason to your Likes on YouTube for sure.
1 likequete inrpot Ouch, a low blow. Not a boomer. Lol. Late X, almost Millenial.
1 likeHe almost got a butterfinger too.. so close!
5 likes@Rick Nuthman Haha...A for effort.
1 like@Gavin James "poisoning"? Right
0 likes@rusty nuts Yes, random circumstancial knowledge... YEP, HES GUILTY! Put em away for life! 🤡🔨
1 likeBest comment ever, I knew the comments section wouldn't dissapoint. 😊
1 likeLMFAO Just made my week , thanks 🤙
1 like@Gavin James They use caffeine intentionally to wear the defendant down and cause anxiety as well. It's always either coffee, Pepsi or Coke. Also why they've quit allowing the 'perp' to smoke as it helps calm them.
0 likes@Jay Sands I'm not enough evil to understand it.
0 likes@Adam M For society.
0 likesEven if he did. He managed to get away without snitching on the homies.
0 likesNice 👍
1 likehahahahhahah
1 like@Indy RAWR Ingesting harmful chemicals(unless on an obesity campaign).Poisoning.Right.
0 likesLol
0 likesNah one was a Pepsi
0 likesGavin James I think 4 cans of soda can’t be as damaging as years of heroin abuse lol
0 likesHahaha Savage 😅
1 likeHahahahahaha you fuckin right hahahaha
0 likes20k likes? wow dude thats impressive!
1 like@klenzgaming Yeah, it's been a constant notification frenzy. Love it. ha.
0 likes@Gavin James thats a reach if ive ever heard one
0 likes@Chris Thayil lmaooo
0 likes@Gage Mahaffee wtf? He's on parole bro, prints been on record
0 likes@🌻Tantrika Exotica🌻 They give you whatever you want to drink. I've seen interrogations where they give bottled water plenty of times. He wanted sugar because it helps with withdrawals. And they don't let you smoke because you cant smoke anywhere.
4 likesHoly shit, laughed my ass off. Great comment
2 likesGavin James when u are on or withdrawing off opiates you want sugar and coke is usually what ppl want. I know i was like that
4 likesThat's about tree fiddy 😃
1 like@Gage Mahaffee they take your prints the second you get arrested. He's in jail bro they don't need to do all that he already is in the system from before that anyway lol..
0 likesGage Mahaffee lol he was already in the system once before, they already have his prints
1 likebroo you just spoiled it for me, I'm on the second coke
1 likeI cant stop laughing 🤣
1 likeSamuel Lourenço knowing an actual heroin addict, it’s not that simple, my family member went to rehab, everything was looking good for him, then he was forcibly sent to a halfway house, where people stole from him, and got him hooked again. Currently he’s on the good path, but when it comes to heroine you’re never truly 100% clean, there’s always going to be that urge, it overpowers everything, and I mean everything. He will have a lifelong battle to never use again.
1 likeDude has OD’d 2 times now, it’s a fucking miracle he’s alive, he’s just pushing on. But man is it hard.
Oh and the withdrawal of heroine can literally kill you. So he’s lucky he has a supportive family so he can get what he needs to not die.
Dude didn’t even want to try it, a guy harassed him enough, swearing it “wasn’t heroine” he ended up doing it to get the dude to leave the party he was at and. Boom. Hooked
You win today
0 likes@Chris Thayil underrated comment.
0 likesDiabolical!!! Zing. Freaking Zing
1 likeWhen withdrawling from Opiates sugar, is a distraction. Even when high you crave, and that could explain him craving them so much
1 like@pousXB came here to say this. Any stimulant, or dopamine inducing, neurochemcal changing sugar can help
0 likes@Gage Mahaffee lol no. Maybe DNA? but still no...
0 likes@Weekend Home Projects you could be The Handyman there.
1 likePahahahaha
1 likeAnd having tax payers foot the bill for his lawyer and jail stay.
0 likesLol
1 likeDon't forget that he almost robbed them a "Butterfinger" too. That could've have been sweet.
1 like@Weekend Home Projects i mean, if it isn’t too expensive
0 likes@Gavin James They stole the money they bought those cokes with...
0 likes@TheLincolnBlogs Perhaps.
0 likes@Erin You mean the abusive lifestyle that drug laws impose on heroin users(unless you're Keith Richards)Look up the pharmacology,discover the relative harmless nature compared to,say,soft drinks,abused or not.Incidentially,4 cans of drink in a pillowcase can be fatally damaging,I suppose it's what you do with the drug.
0 likes@Gavin James Bruh what. Heroin is horrible for your body ESPECIALLY for long time users, it has nothing to do with the drug laws based around it lol
2 likes@Erin Really?Horrible for your body?Read a medical textbook and come back on that.The lifestyle which the majority of users lead,with abuse of said drug combine to cause the majority of horrible consequences.
0 likes@Gavin James Long term effects of heroin users:
1 likeBad teeth
Inflammation of the gums
Constipation
Cold sweats
Itching
Weakening of the immune system
Coma
Respiratory (breathing) illnesses
Muscular weakness, partial paralysis
Reduced sexual capacity and long-term impotence in men
Menstrual disturbance in women
Inability to achieve orgasm (women and men)
Loss of memory and intellectual performance
Introversion
Depression
Pustules on the face
Loss of appetite
Insomnia
Those symptoms are just from USING the drug.
What you’re talking about is the lifestyle of an addict. Which those consequences would be things like frequent needle use can lead to collapsed veins and infections, which would be the addicts fault for injecting, but heroin ITSELF is inherently NOT good for you.
@Erin If you need to go to Foundation For A Drug Free World for a list,rather than direct prior knowledge,then you should read more carefully.No,heroin is far from inherently good for you,but abuse of a drug and the consequent medical penalties don't make the drug itself liable for that abuse.A glass of wine occasionally can hardly be a problem,but 50 glasses a day is.Abuse of a drug isn't compulsory.Incidentally,it's constipation and reduced sex drive.
0 likes@Gavin James “direct prior knowledge” dude my sister is a heroin addict, I’ve seen enough of what that shit does to you.
0 likesIt’s a choice to do that drug yes, but becoming addicted to it literally changes your brain. You can clearly see on scans that drug users and non drug users brains function differently.
You know we’re talking about LONG term use right?
@Gage Mahaffee doubtful.
0 likes@Scoonie 18:00
0 likesLmao !!!
1 likeLol
0 likes😂😂😂
1 like"i want a lawyer" - cop ignores it. Everything after that is not valuable in a court.
0 likes@Carl Friedrich Gauss: Indeed, that's definitely not robbery, in fact I'd argue that they robbed him of that butterfinger. That said, he's definitely guilty of murder, 11:40 is the smoothest verbal execution I've seen for some time, and with only 2 words.
0 likes(Nice choice of username, btw 😉)
@Mace StillMace I was gonna like yourrrr comment but were leaving it at 420
1 like@hypno1018 wow didn't even notice! Google should have sent me a notification I'm famous now.
0 likes"The only reason I came up here was to get a coke."
2 likesBet he has hustled a few smokes this way. Probably en route to the refreshments
0 likes@Gage Mahaffee he has been to jail before??? I'm certain that they've already had finger prints.
0 likes@Ace Azrael you slow. They have a public forum for officers and this is what one of the chiefs said they commonly do.
0 likes@TecateGPT ik not talking about Jeff im saying in general. Its called "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" or Poison tree doctrine.
0 likes@Mace StillMace 34k*
0 likesLike how the pig took the can of coke then let him finish it when he was asked.Hoping he may lock him in & get a statement. This ain't Jeff's 1st rodeo.
0 likes😂😂
0 likesOnce he said he wants a lawyer this should have been done
0 likes@Gage Mahaffee cuz this ain't Jeff's 1st rodeo.His prints are in the system many times over.He knows the go & he worked it exquistivly this time.
0 likes😅😂🤣
0 likesHonestly he stole my heart as well but I'm not pressing charges.
1 likeEZ Clap xqcJuice
0 likes@Weekend Home Projects ONLY FANS❤️❤️❤️😭😭🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😭🤣😂🤣😂😂😂
0 likesI AM LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF!!!!!!!
1 likeYe
1 likeTrue tho
0 likeslmaooooooo
1 likeLmao the best comment I've seen 👍
0 likesBest comment of ALL time! Well done, sir. Simple, effective, to the point.
0 likes@Weekend Home Projects give me a link
0 likes@Samuel Lourenço wham bam leave this comment section
0 likesAnd at the cost of 1 butterfinger as well
0 likesWord.
1 like@Mace StillMace now is 42k :( close
0 likes@Weekend Home Projects Bro send my the link 👀
0 likeshe didnt get his butterfinger tho :(
1 like@pousXB not for people actually withdrawaling lol. Maybe if you call yourself a junkie but can't barely scrape together a point a day or something. The literal only true counter I've found, is making sure I stay up for two weeks straight before I get sick, cuz then I literally sleep the entire time and just do not wake up. But I also don't mix and match anymore, staying up really damages your sanity too much for my liking in my older age. Now I just make sure I don't run out, or have one of the two pharmecutical treatment options immediately handy, but even then the first few days are terrible even with those.
0 likesAnyway, only time I ever had a magic cure from some sugar and caffeine was as a youngster when I thought a junkie spent $10-20 a day lulz do a g a day at minimum then talk to me bout sugar and caffeine helping. He was just straight clowning on them cops bro. For real. He's pissed and he's pissing them off. They took his time up and he's doing the same.
😂😂😂😂
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likeshaha
0 likesBOY BYEEEEEEE
1 likegoated comment right here, hall of fame entry for sure
1 likeFrrr 🤣
0 likesYep
1 likeLmao 😂
1 likeTrueeee
1 like@Gavin James poisoning ? Wtf are you on about
0 likes@Samuel Lourenço yeah, but he needs to be helped, not put in prison
0 likes@Gage Mahaffee when they arrest them they get prints anyways. They also already have his prints cause he was already arrested
0 likes53k likes for this...??? Really?
1 like@Tim Terrell It’s one of my biggest life achievements.
1 like@Mace StillMace 64K likes!!!
0 likesHAHAHA brilliant
1 likeLMAO
0 likesI've laughed at this comment longer than i should be , thanks dude!
2 likesWhat a chad!
1 likemade my day :D
1 likeAnd almost a butterfinger. So close
1 like@Mace StillMace We'll have to wait till it gets 42000 now
1 like@Alex I'm here for the long haul
0 likes@G- jaguar beast-S lmao what I was making a joke about how the comment had 420 likes. You should get out a little more if you're trying to make a personal attack based off literally one sentence.
0 likesLegendary comment!!
1 likeCongrats on 203 likes
2 likes@Mace StillMace try 64k! it got much better lol
0 likesIt’s funny how when u know interrogation tactics, the interrogators trying switching to a different one.
1 likeI’m positive he isn’t a bad guy to the core…he’s the product of having an addiction while lacking the resources to receive proper treatment and social services post-incarceration. He’s continuously recycled back into a system that guarantees persistent hardships and ultimate failure. He’s clearly intelligent and has a zero tolerance for bs, and refuses to have a crime pinned on him that he didn’t commit. He has even impressively found a legal loophole to get ample Coke through popo 😹😹😹
0 likesThe manipulation and sodiness of these techniques clearly comes through in this video.
0 likesI wish I knew my rights when they tricked me into the car and had hair ties over their badge numbers, maybe I wouldn't have spent 7 years on felony probation for a dumpster fire my so-called best friend and secret gay lover set and then played dumb on when I gave them his house number to prove it wasn't me
0 likesThis poor guy is smart, but the grip of addiction is ruining his life.
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As an addict, I can say the drug is what makes life worth living. I wouldn't have any interest in living sober. Tried it, didn't like it.
98 likes@Fluffy Little Bear what drug??
22 likes@Fluffy Little Bear what u on that is that good
32 likes@Fluffy Little Bear That's a rough way to roll. You'll see eventually if you continue. The outcome is always the same. If you get time away from it, you will see that life is worth living without it and much better when you get out of your head and perceived needs and start participating in your life. You have to want it though. If you don't see a glimpse of that yourself, nobody can help you. Best of luck with your situation and thinking. I hope you can see that using hard drugs typically ends up in jail or death or severe health problems. From what I've seen, it's never worth it.
191 likesAs a fellow Jeff, addiction is my biggest challenge. 8 months clean though.
176 likes@Jeffafa Laureanti congratulations
63 likes@Jeffafa Laureanti That's great man! Good job!! Keep it up!!! Talk to friends, go to meetings or whatever you need if you feel like using. Sometimes just a quick change in thinking and actions can alleviate a temporary craving. I like the phrase 'Feelings Aren't Facts'. If I'm feeling down or weak, it almost always changes for the better with a walk or chat/hang with a friend that's clean.
34 likes@Jeffafa Laureanti Thats awesome man! Hope you can stay clean!
17 likes@Jeffafa Laureanti man, I was addicted in my teenage years, it was horrible, then some Firefighters, police, and EMS workers saved me from an overdose, I cleaned up my act and now I'm a firefighter. I'm proud you're clean man, it's hard to stay clean but after a while things get a bit easier, keep safe and away from that stuff, hold your goals high.
46 likesbro check is yt channel..he is fine now
2 likes@Capt. Price Good to hear. What's how channel called?
1 like@Eric Ybro read the pin comment
3 likes@Capt. Price Word. Thanks!
3 likes@Eric Y wella
0 likes@Fluffy Little Bear i sent cops to investigate you.
0 likes@Eric Y I'm sober and love life but I feel like not everybody has the things that make sober life worth living
1 like@kobeisbose Good point. Hard to understand if not impossible to understand what other people go through. What makes one tick? What are their circumstances are in life. Some lives are likely unimaginably difficult sober or high. Mental problems, extreme poverty, no opportunities. Maybe drugs are the only relief? So lucky to not have that life.
1 like@Jeffafa Laureanti I'm proud of you, hope you are doing well! :D
2 likes@Eric Y Thanks, I struggle with addiction its a tough situation sometimes I get the urge to take Heroin but the stuff where I am is also shit so it makes it even worse when you want to use but can't even get any decent gear but next time I'm feeling the urge ill talk to someone see if that helps good day m8
1 like@Fluffy Little Bear I’m gonna have to go ahead and concur. Granted, I live with horrific chronic pain, so my dope is prescribed, but shit- straight Oxy + Klonopin every day (throw in Kratom in between) not only tempers my physical pain, it buffers the horrible misery of living in this shit world.
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Not smart just been through it enough times to know what to not say and do
0 likesScooma (from elderscrolls) is a great representation of how drugs ruin lives.
0 likes@Eric Y I AGREE IMMENCLEY!!
0 likesI'm a teenager addicted to games, without games I think it's been 11 hours. I quit Like today morning
1 like@Fluffy Little Bear That’s a hard way to live I imagine. I hope someday that you come to a different point in your life! Good luck and you’ll be in my prayers!
1 likeOrly
0 likes@iamcasihart Took the words right out of my mouth. It's all about your worldview. People who live happy lives and see the world as a decent place, don't understand why some people can't stand to be sober, and can't seem to comprehend that not everybody can have the happy life they have.
3 likesI mean, I could be sober, I have the willpower - I just don't want to be, because every moment of my life would be miserable, physically and emotionally. Drug use isn't the problem in my life - it's the treatment.
I'm an opiate addict as well. I've used for 12 years although the last 9 years I've been on methadone maintenance. I was a pretty bright kid in high school but in my senior year I started to get depressed and extreme anxiety and ended up using Oxycontin to cope. Of course the high that I got off the drug was temporary and it only served to postpone the depression for later. The withdrawal exacerbated the anxiety that I already suffered. Eventually my tolerance built so much that I didn't even get high, rather I used just to avoid getting sick. I'm 29 years old now and for the last year I've steadily been decreasing my methadone dose. At the rate I'm decreasing I will be off of it by the time I'm 30. I hope my 30s will be what my 20s should have been. When I was younger I always assumed that I would have a family and a good job by the time I was 30. Although I threw away 12 years of my life to drugs, I think that I can still make something of myself.
2 likes@Jordan Morris You're still young enough to put that behind you and turn it around for a good life. It's never too late really. Get out of that methadone system which is just another money making deal. You might feel strange and off for many months, but it will pass and you'll no longer be in the grip.
0 likes@Eric YI know now that the methadone program is all about money. When I told my doctor that I wanted to get off he was trying to persuade me to stay on. On top of that he wanted to see me everytime I decreased my dose. My mom is a nurse and told me the doctor makes about $200 for every appointment you have (which are only 5 minutes) and on top of that they get a percentage of every prescription they fill. When I first started the program my doctor would increase my dose nearly every two weeks. He had no problem doing this. But I realize now that he wanted my dose to be as high as possible because it would mean I'm on it for longer.
0 likesI'm just curious if you've gone through methadone withdrawal yourself. If you did is there any advise you have that could help me deal with it?
@Jeffafa Laureanti thats amazing, well done
1 like@Fluffy Little Bear that’s cus addiction blocks everything out from your life and all you want is the high. If you don’t have the high you feel like your life is meaningless and shitty. Stay safe cus it never ends well man
4 likes@Fluffy Little Bear What you on homie?
0 likes@Nikola Trbojević vitamin B6
1 like@Fluffy Little Bear Bruh. Homie that's not a drug. You're sober
1 like@Jeffafa Laureanti ❤
1 like@Jordan Morris How long you've been on it and what does is everything. It's a tough drug to kick. More so than H. You have to taper. I would get to 10mg as quick as possible and stay there for a few weeks. Then look at tapering to zero. Honestly, you'll have to sign up for some pretty rough discomfort. I haven't fooled with it in years, but I know the longer you're on it and the higher the does, the longer it will take. You can do it though! Many have done it. Methadone is rough on the body. It will give you kidney stones which are very painful to pass. You're doctor isn't really helping you at this point. You need to learn when your using or want to use, why you feel the need to change how you feel. Since you started young, you will have some challenges. Maybe check out some meetings? You can pick and choose through the people and find someone that's solid and wants to help. There's good and bad in those rooms, but at least the goal is get clean and stay clean. There's unfortunately no easy answer. Once on a low does, you can switch from methadone to Vicodin to Ultram and this stop. It's a little easier landing, but I'm not a doctor and can't really give that as medical advice. I only know that worked because each drug is less powerful than M.
0 likes@Fluffy Little Bear I truly hope you find something else to live for
0 likes@Jeffafa Laureanti i’m proud of you <3
1 likeI'm addicted to chicken wings 😥😣. Pray that I recover. Biggest challenge
2 likes@? LMFAOAOA the real question is what kind?
0 likes@? Buffalo sauce & garlic parmesan is a brutal withdrawal
0 likes@Fluffy Little Bear as the child of an addict, that’s a selfish mentality. Drugs aren’t good for you or some other bullshit, they make you think you can’t live without them and it makes you think that they make you a better person when that couldn’t be further from the truth.
0 likes@Jeffafa Laureanti congratulations!!!
1 like@Fluffy Little Bear thats a terrible way to look at life, obviously theres plenty of other things to live for and appreciate while being sober but whats the name of the stuff ur on 👀
0 likes@Jordan Morris it's never too late ! You got yourself out of that, you're very strong and I think you can do anything you set your mind to. Well done 👏 I may be a stranger on the internet but I'm proud of you
0 likes@Jeffafa Laureanti look at you. Good job buddy
1 like@Pinkie thank you so much. I wish people in my personal life were as supportive as you.
1 like@Eric Y hi Eric thanks for your response. I've been on methadone since 2012 so I've been on it for 9 years. I started tapering down last September (2020). I was at 100mg when I finally decided to go down. In the last 8 months I've managed to taper down to 28mg (which is what I'm currently on). The first 50mg weren't to bad, but when I went from 50mg to 45mg the withdrawals started to hit me pretty hard. I've gone to NA meetings in the past but unfortunately, it's become a place where addicts go to find new dealers, rather than get help. I've gone to AA meetings as well, and although I'm not an alcoholic, I find they are much more encouraging and respectful than NA.
0 likesI'm curious about kidney stones. I haven't had them yet but are you more likely to get them when you're off methadone or while you're still on it?
@Jordan Morris on or off. They form while taking it. AA is good. Whatever works! Keep working down and you'll be surprised when you're out of the trap. Shame on the doc for ever putting you on more than 20~30mg. It's not necessary to take more. Don't get into Suboxone either. It's no good. Same difficult withdrawal as M.
0 likes@Fluffy Little Bear Absolutely on the same page with you. Seriously. And I’m the same. I, too, have the willpower, but fuck it. Everything hurts too much, both emotionally and physically. I feel too much and too strongly, and this world is so often cruel and shitty. I love my music. I love animals. I love art. And I prefer to be a little bit “high” or “stoned.”
0 likes@Strawberry.mooncakes ! I am sorry that you had to suffer that. In my defense, I never had kids, so the only person I’m responsible for is myself.
0 likesDetective: “But now you’ve handcuffed me..”
2 likesBruh
Rumor has it, Jeff ended up getting that Butterfinger...at least that's what they're calling it in prison! Lol
3 likesJeff:*screams and gets pissed at the cops*
0 likesAlso jeff:"thanks for the coke :)"
Personally Jeff comes off as a good guy because understand the struggle and respect the hustle
0 likesThey just keep dragging guy outta the cell and giving him cokes.
5774 likesHe drinks the coke, doesnt sign anything, then says "take me back to the cell".
Fantastic.
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The ol' switcheroo
168 likesLOL. facts!!!!!!
23 likesI thought I heard him mention a Butterfinger as he was heading back to his cell.
43 likesRing a bell, get a coke. Ring a bell, get a coke. Ring a bell.....
32 likesRemember though that each time he gets out the cell for interview he is further into withdrawals. Heroin addiction makes you need lots of sugar (don’t ask me why, it’s a strong craving) the police are using (or hoping) to use his withdrawals to get him to crack. It’s like being in hell when you get nicked and got a habit. Jeff is actually a pro with these guys and they know it.
73 likesCan’t they use the fingerprint on the coke he discarded as evidence?
8 likes@naturallylula uh... the most assuredly already have his finger prints... the do that when they don't have probable cause and don't have a warrant to demand his prints or DNA, not when hes already locked up, and has already been through the system... hes had his prints taken multiple times. DNA too
11 likesTakes on a whole new meaning of "putting the system to work" lol
5 likesThats probs because of the withdrawal. The coke is his subtitute like when you smoke cigarette and you use candy as a subtitute while withdrawing.
2 likesLMAOO really tho
0 likes@Alexander Carder The police didn't have to give him shit, so it's pretty nice of them
2 likesAlexander Carder it’s not a craving. Sugar helps dull the ache a bit since it forces your body to release endorphins similar to getting high.
8 likesThis isn’t a “well actually “ I’m speaking from many years down that same path. I got my Platinum in heroin long ago.
@GabrielAKAFinn how's the boot taste
4 likesHow long can they keep him without charges? Its 48hrs in uk...Just trying to work out how many free cokes he gets before he goes home...
2 likesSalent Giperb lol can’t tell you never used heroin or methadone there is no substitute against opioids 😂 especially fucking Coca-Cola
2 likesfree coke anyone?
0 likessquirrel7t7 it’s 24 hours in the US if they are detaining you, but they stated he was under arrest. Which means he’s being charged, so they can hold him up to 48 before he has to go in front of a judge, where they discuss terms of bail. If he doesn’t receive bail he will be held in jail leading up to and during trial. So quite possibly he wouldn’t get to go home. In the U.S. probable cause is needed to arrest and charge. Him admitting his crimes would make it nearly impossible for him to be found not guilty though, so police always try and get a confession.
0 likes@Alexander Carder heroin withdrawls are pretty much your body running on e it gives a little jump start.
0 likesLmao I was watching your other videos and I was literally thinking “what if they never say they understand” and low and behold, here we are
0 likesIf your name is Jeff you are instantly funny! 1:40 When they start off with "This is Jeff..." you know its going to be a good story.
0 likesawesome dude, mad respect
0 likesYou have not spent enough time on the Internet if you think people detach from the villain
1 like“You have the right to remain silent”
4519 likesremains silent
“Well shit I didn’t think it would actually happen”
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LMAOOO
25 likesjeff is the best
45 likesThat's exactly what I'd do lol
2 likesNo offense but what's wrong with your face im curious
1 like@Demacola Poo same
0 likes@CLINCH CHEESE yes, I'm just saying that would be my reaction. But if that' s true then better only repeat over and over that you want a lawyer and nothing more.
1 like@CLINCH CHEESE “beta boy” watch out everyone we have a real authentic big alpha male in our presence oh god oh fuck
1 likeGet him an attorney, he has asked for one more than once!
0 likesThought the cop started glitching out and could only repeat "do you understand that" phrases
0 likesJeff's like "I was to smacked out of my mind to do an armed robbery!"
1 likeCan you imagine a high heroin addict trying to rob a place all nodded out and shit?
This guy is a legend 🤣
0 likesI was a heroin addict at one point , NEVER STOLE OR VIOLATED THE PUBLIC FOR MONEY THO but going to jail was my WORST NIGHTMARE, I went thru withdrawals in there (also asked for methadone and they laughed) it was the most excruciating thing I’ve ever been thru. I’ve been clean 8 YEARS now :)
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Amazing. Keep it up :)
21 likesThat's really awesome, especially considering you had to deal with breaking the addiction in jail. Truly happy for you.
19 likes🙏🙏👍🤩👋👋👋👋
5 likesYup been there done that , they laughed at me too.
8 likesyour strength and resilience are amazing. People like you should get more recognition in our society
10 likesWell done.. wishing you good health to thy self be true..
5 likesstay clean friend, nothin better than showin the world how well you can bounce back
9 likesAmazing! Im really happy for you ❤️🙏 keep staying clean & I hope you Will Have a great life
7 likesI was on fentanyl and went to jail ik what you me that is hell. You can't sleep at all, body aches and shakes and they dont give a fuck and treat addicts worse. No methadone or suboxone. But alcoholics get valium and shit for their withdrawals in there
7 likesThats amazing to hear. Hope you have found happiness
4 likesWaooohhhh that's amazinggg well done g
5 likesso proud of you!! stay strong and keep it up!!!
5 likesI'm so proud of you. 8 years is so long!!! I wish you nothing but luck.
4 likesSo proud of you buddy
3 likesMe too...im not proud... thoe for you!!! @onin
0 likesCongrats 😁😁😁
4 likesThat’s amazing I’m so proud of you 👍🏻 :))))
3 likesHappy for you man. Keep pushing and don’t look back💪💪
3 likes👏👏👏 YOU are the true hero 👏👏👏
3 likescongrats dude <3 i may not know you but i'm still super proud of you. you deserved better treatment
3 likesCongrats
3 likesNice.... I'm so happy for you, man!
3 likesproud of you for moving past that chapter of your life
2 likesSame here except I just learned how to afford it & use it as if were prescribed...a regiment and discipline. lol so I been using every day 6 years now.
0 likespls change your name to Worldwide SUCCESS. thank you. have a great life, congrats on recovering and staying clean for so long
2 likesCongrats on 8 years
2 likesCongratulations on your ongoing recovery. You have done amazingly well. Keep it up!
2 likesCongrats 👏
3 likesHell yeah man I have a caffeine addiction which obviously isn’t that bad but I can barely beat that lol you go man
2 likesCongrats, good on ya.
2 likes@Mike Garrett Congrats, my friend, for sobriety. I know how hard it is... I'm a sober alcoholic, and I was in jail for 36 hours for a DUI. No, they didn't give me any benzo, but at least I lived. Alcohol withdrawal can lead to fatal convulsions, whereas I've heard that heroin withdrawal, while pretty awful, is not fatal even if you feel it will be!! That said, sobriety is a difficult bird to catch, but when you keep it, at least you can think, talk, make and carry out plans, love, be a real parent/son/daughter/wife/husband /friend. For us addicts, that's the end of the story. As someone further down says, "Keep pushing and don't look back."
1 like@Fran Buckley congrats to you too. Idk why they didnt give you anything for it bc theyre supposed to give alcoholics something bc they can die from it. I feel bad for any addict that has ti withdrawal in jail bc it sucks no matter what you're on
2 likesidk you but i’m proud of you !!
1 like🙏🏽
1 like@Aija Espinoza that's the only way it would have happened Aija, so it was a blessing in disguise 👍
2 likesWell done you! Jehovah God made it so you were taken to a place where you had no access to your drugs, it was the only way to have you stop damaging the beautiful body he gave you. I hope you've given him thanks and praise! 😁
0 likesYou've been given an opportunity to have everlasting life by giving your life to God...many won't have that opportunity as I'm sure you know people who are still dealing with their own private hell, but you've seen the light 😌 God bless you! May He continue to bless you! 🙏👍
@Buse Ünal Thank you, Buse!
1 like@MEMEPOPART Thank you, Kellen!
0 likesGood on you man!
0 likesI'm clean almost 3 months now I can honestly say it's the hardest thing I've been through...great job on 8 years!!
0 likesCop: "tell me what happened"
0 likesJeff: tells him what happened
Cop: "hang on" reads Miranda Rights
Cop: "Ok NOW tell me what happened"
Asking first question to investigator when investigator enters room > Jeff already set his dominance in conversation
0 likesJeff is fine, he even has his own youtube channel called "legend of jeff" hes doing well, hes clean and hes still a legend.
0 likesEdit: didnt realise that JSC already gave this update in his pinned comment, ima leave it up tho in case anyone didnt see it like me lol.
It’s fun to pretend you don’t understand for an absurdly long time. They cannot move forward until you understand. Then after hours you say “oh I understand now: that I need a lawyer.” Then remain silent forever.
0 likesCop: You gotta convince me, I got a lot of evidence.
8897 likesJeff: Convince me you've got a lot of evidence.
Cop: ... :(
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😂😂😂😂
79 likesLmaooo
33 likes@Mikhael Hunter DR wut 😀
86 likes@CrazyMiles your name is accurate!
57 likes@CrazyMiles allah saudi al bashar
19 likesedit: i was just kidding how does this have a like
Cop: 👁️👄👁️
4 likes@CrazyMiles Love if Jeff could see this comment
4 likes@CrazyMiles hey dude, stop trying to convert people to christianity thanks
42 likes@CrazyMiles based
4 likeshell yeah
0 likes@Mikhael Hunter DR TURN DOWN THE MUSIC I CANT SEE THE ROAD
6 likesThat's why he is a Legend.
1 like@lassiecomehome one of /ourguys/
0 likesJeff is the master of reverse psychology lmao
3 likes@RyRandom 🤣👌😭🤯🍿🍷
1 like@Pig Bukkit You, made me laugh when I knew it would hurt to laugh, and at like midnight
1 like@RyRandom not a very good one obviously…might wanna read Matthew 7 : 22-23
0 likes@Cra2yFac3 I don’t wanna argue but a comment section is not a place to spread the word of god. There’s churches for a reason.
2 likesBut why would you prove your innocence if they didn't prove that you are guilty
0 likes@Miles lol bible got a whole lotta contradictions to call it the word of god anymore. People ruined it
2 likesConvince a jury you got a lot of evidence.
1 likeI had a Jeff robbed and killed my Twin brother. Knowing my brother, confinement wouldn’t have been what he wanted since he was involved with community outreach and a Jeff is who killed killed him. Strung out. Self medicating to escape the bullying of “The System” backing him into a corner to either rob, kill or steal to fund their system because Their system works faster than the world’s system. Back on track. So my family claims to have cut all ties with me as if they’ve ever been relevant to me since age 15 which I’m now 40. I don’t ask them for nothing, don’t attend nothing, (they’ve never seen my 12 and 11 year old kids) so WTBS, I fought against the charges of 1st degree murder. Made a deal with the PA, Judge and Accused that I would accept a reckless endangerment resulting in death AKA involuntary manslaughter in exchange for 5 years of rehabilitation, not forced, he walks free today and has to make the commitment himself. On top of that, he has to pay restitution aka (Child’s support) of $500 per month until 2030 to take care of expenses my nephew may need. (My brother wasn’t rolling In it and he was only ordered to pay $85 per month while he was alive anyhow.) and…..that’s all. Everyone agreed. He is now a Pastor of a semi mega Church telling the exact same story I just told. While telling this story one Easter Sunday I showed up. I raised my hand for 45 mins as questions weren’t allowed but he called on me. Sometimes I wonder if he wondered what I would’ve said but anyhow, I asked him….”All of the prior arrest, drug test failures, let downs of your kids, family , 7 rehab centers on top of prison time……what made you change this time around?
0 likesHe said, “Humanity & Compassion”.
Someone showed him that every mistake isn’t punishable. There’s a learning lesson in everything. The lazy punished. The strong leads.
"You have the right to remain silent and all these that we muted to prevent people from knowing them. We will also ask you questions so you can violate your own right to remain silent, keep you for an indefinite period of time in the interrogation room until you say something to convict you- listen Jeff your going to prison either way because we don't like you and need to be payed; I need a raise."
0 likesAlso two people without uniform..
I wouldn't drink that beverage.
Cop:"You have the right to remain silent"
0 likesJeff:*Remains Silent*
Cop: God damn you Miranda!
So, doesnt he get a lawyer after asking for one? Or am I missing something here?
0 likesHe broke the cop. The cop says “you don’t have to say anything” then he doesn’t say anything and the cop becomes a broken record lol
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Lol
51 likesNO, he did not. The cop had to question the subject. He did. The subject didn't have to say anything but he knew that he would still either need to try to get out of the situation by lying or by talking to the cop at some point.
158 likes@SauliusLT cool not really. They can't keep someone indefinitely. If they had no substantial evidence after 2 days they have to release them.
679 likes@Zaixai Oh. Well, what about jail? He would still be put to jail even if he didn't talk right?
16 likes@SauliusLT cool if they have no evidence they can't keep you past a certain amount of time simple as that. If they think they are close to getting a confession then they can apply for a 24 hour extension but even that will end eventually. It's not China or North Korea.
434 likesthe cop tried "pigsplaining" but our man jeff is immune to "pigsplaining"
209 likes@SauliusLT cool no that's litrelly how medieval times do it , stay in school
46 likesJeff, do you understand your rights? Do you understand your rights? Jeff...Do you understand your rights?
90 likes@SauliusLT cool He would be put in jail if there would be a substantial evidence for it. He doesn't have to say shit and this saved him, cause all interview does is getting more evidence.
74 likesSauliusLT cool so 2 things: Jeff asked if he was detained or not, if you aren’t detained, you are free to walk whenever, psychologically however people don’t, because they see the cop as an obstacle that must be overcome. Being detained isn’t much different, and that brings us to the second thing. Being detained does not mean you’re guilty or necessarily charged, what is most likely going to land you in trouble will be talking, the more you say, the more details you give the officer, the more likely they will use that against you. It’s in most people’s best interest not to talk, as seen here as the cop tried to break Jeff.
58 likesAll Jeff had to do was accept the Coke and the cop was confused....just don't ever answer the question they ask....just reply as if you are asking a completely different question....example....when a cop asks you if you were at any given location....this is your reply....My favorite childhood game? Hmmm...like team game or solo game?....wait i always liked Red Rover, and wiffleball....
28 likesbullsi20 he does not know about Habeas Corpus.
3 likes@SauliusLT cool no
1 like@pactastic yeah, if only schools tought that, you know?
4 likes😂😭
0 likesBeing that broken record and asking again and again will often lead to results. Jeff is an exception, most people don’t know how risky it is to talk without a lawyer and will eventually give up information that can land them in prison.
11 likesI did this same thing ignored them, all my time held was not accounted for so sad
1 likeCop.exe has stopped working. Would you like to send an error report?
11 likes@PosthumanHeresy 😂😂😂
0 likes@SauliusLT cool you don't talk to the police without a lawyer. You might think you're smarter but they're in control and can spin your story to suit their own narrative.
1 like@SauliusLT cool don’t do drugs kids, they’ll turn out like you
0 likes@SauliusLT cool they do teach that, attend a civics class. Maybe listen to that teacher.
0 likesWell now this is the first I’m hearing of this guy. What happened to him? Tell me he didn’t end up going back to prison. They didn’t fix him up with some rehab?
0 likes"Wham bam thank you for the coke now put me back in the cell"
1 likeAbsolute Legend
"do you understand your rights as I have explained them to you?"
1 like"no"
"huh?"
"yeah."
🤣🤣
in case anyone is wondering, jeff actually did get clean and has a youtube channel called "the legend of jeff"
1 likeCop: Do you understand your rights.
6638 likesJeff: No
Cop: What?
Jeff: Yeah
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Lol Jeff funny
143 likesG E N I U S.
61 likes😀😁😂
Legend
35 likesI like Jeff
48 likesI'm 4 and 1/2 minutes in, have read most of the comments, and still have no clue wtf I'm watching other than Jeff choosing to remain silent...oh well can't ever get those minutes back can we😂😂😂
38 likesI've been arrested many times and f**ked myself over so many times even when trying to keep silent.
32 likesIt's so different to then watching these videos. Hence why I'm so impressed by this guy, he's a dam pro.
Lol. True story.
1 likeLmaoo😂
0 likes@foxtailedcritter don't take anything, sign anything or say ANYTHING except "I want my lawyer& I need a doctor "(don't explain why, when they ask), then pick a spot on the wall or on the floor&watch it ,simple.
17 likes@hurr durr what good is "training" when a person simply sits in silence drowning out their questions by daydreaming about whatever distraction they choose ?it is not as hard as you think or maybe you just don't know how to be quiet. If a person doesn't listen to what they're saying they might as well be reading the menu for a Thai restaurant .
2 likes@hurr durr wow ,why are you so bothered ,no need to get mad we're only disagreeing on a simple topic calm down, lol. If you're not mature enough to handle someone with a different opinion then u shouldn't comment. It's not that serious no need to be rude. (You'd lose your bet 😂😂).
2 likesI was lookin for this comment 😂 thag was my favorite part
1 like@Molly's Lips💋💋 Seriously, cops do everything they can to make you to talk. If you are a mother they threaten to have CPS take your children away as you are "uncooperative". They withold meals, subject you to interrogations lasting 23 hours without so much as a glass of water. Getting in your face, threatening to arrest family members on parole, deliberate sleep deprivation. If you're hispanic they threaten to pass details of family and known associates to ICE. The list goes on. For most it is extremely difficult to stay silent. The best action to take is to simply state is that I understand my rights and that I am not prepared to speak to you without a lawyer. But they play so many mind games with you a lot of people are desperate some are in withdrawals and just want to GTFO and think that by talking it will speed the process up and they will get out, which they likely wont. On another note, in this case, surely anything he said after "I want a lawyer" would be ruled inadmissible?
19 likesGreatest comment ever
2 likesWhy no comment on this in the narration? There should have been. It sounded like sarcasm to me. Confidence in Jeff and frustration at the situation.
1 like@blahblahblah mememe incorrect. They read him his rights each time, thus it is official questioning. Denied of attorney present during official questioning is a violation.
2 likes🤣🤣🤣
1 likeThat instant you realize you sass is only going to hold you in proximity to the assholes hassling you....
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesThis actually could've been featured on the "Guilty Until Proven Innocent" video
0 likesThe candy and pop helps with drug withdrawals. He mentioned methadone a lot of jails offer suboxone for those suffering through withdrawals. Jail is already uncomfortable without withdrawals. And most that anger I can speculate is the withdrawals because he seems like a well mannered man. Poor guy hope he gets the help he needs. A think we like anti heros because their is a chance of them being a good person. I know this information i.e. about the suboxons and pop and candy because I'm in recovery myself. Jails would be a lot emptier if drugs weren't so rampant.
0 likesI'm sure Jeff would agree that he belongs in the system and will live longer if he continues incarceration.
0 likesThat guys IQ is more than both those detectives combined.. well played sir.. well played
0 likesThe level of empathy that JCS has is quite frankly astounding. It makes for a compelling view and listen, and makes this channel stand out from the rest .
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Agree.
3 likesthe narrator sounds exactly like the narrator in matilda. it’s so soothing.
6 likesSmooth
1 like@woo-ie the narrator was Danny DeVito!
2 likes@JA ah yes.
0 likesI was the 1000th like
0 likes@Vlxxn congrats.
0 likes@woo-ie thanks lol
1 like@Vlxxn anytime bro.
1 likeIf someone asks for a lawyer is the interrogation over right then and there? Or can the cops/detectives continue to ask questions all they want?
0 likesJeff is smart tbh. He got stuff from not answering questions!!
0 likesNo line will ever be as iconic as “Wam bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell”
0 likesHe said he wanted a lawyer, why do they keep dragging him out of his cell trying to get him to talk?
0 likesCop: "We have tons of evidence."
12977 likesJeff: "Like what?"
Cop: "........"
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lol
76 likes“...you wouldn’t know it. it goes to another school”
894 likes@robert jones lil
11 likes@x Usually they have a specific lie up their sleeve. This was just awkward and hilarious.
184 likes9:14 this is straight out of a Monty Python argument sketch.
64 likes"I just told you" "No you didnt" "Yes I did, YES.I.DID"
Literally minutes earlier: 07:56 (cop: that didnt happen, so please talk to ME, *about something I can accuse you of on tape)
That's a tactic that's always baffled me. Like if you had all the evidence you need then you wouldnt need a confession in the first place. I dont understand how that tricks anyone
142 likes@robert jones LMFAOO
10 likes@Lance Mannly Sometimes the evidence is only enough if it's in combination with a confession. Even if the evidence is very strong at first glance, each individual piece can be combed over thoroughly by the defence and potentially ruled inadmissable for X Y or Z. Whereas if they leverage it to get a confession their chances of conviction go way up
24 likesHe hadn't given them a statement yet. If they reveal what they know he can try to alter his alibi to make him appear more innocent.
16 likesThe first thing they do is try to catch you in a lie. Once they've got you in the lie, they tighten the line and lay on the heat.
By the time they've accused you, you're already too far into the interview to just stop talking. You either go into denial or you confess.
If you confess, you save the State a lot of money. If you don't, there's a chance you'll get off in court. That's why this process seems so convoluted. These interrogations are very effective, when done correctly, and are the fastest and cheapest way to get a criminal serving their sentence.
Have you seen the court scene from "idiocracy"?..
12 likes"Like ,we've got all this evidence n stuff".
@robert jones "But I promise that its very real and absolutely does exist! I pinkie promise!"
4 likeswhat's the deal with people simply repeating a quote from the video in the comments that ANYONE who watched OBVIOUSLY picked up on? They make it to the top comments every time, because a bunch of ogres are like "YEAH! I HEARD THAT TOO!" Woopti-fuckin-doo. And the poster feels important for acting like a parrot and getting all their praise/likes, but as a result actual interesting thoughts are pushed down the toilet, where nobody will read them. (Just like real life!)
2 likesNow, please, everyone tell me what I'm missing about the brilliance and relatability of it, and how that's so much better than encountering a different thought/take.
@Dan Gander dude you need a hug lmao.
17 likesThis exact thing happened to me at school. I was falsely accused of hacking into someone's gmail account and writing disgusting things on a Google doc. The principal and the resource officer interrogated me and the resource officer told me that they had "an IT guy" on the case and lots of evidence pointing it towards me. I said that's impossible and kept claiming my innocence. I asked about the evidence and she downplayed it and completely switched the question. It's a horrible situation of forcing people to give in and confess. She kept saying that I could be "charged with child pornography and go to jail" for something that wasn't even that serious and I was in high school. I still kept my innocence so they decided to just suspend me for a day. I'm still so angry about that whole experience.
12 likes@Lance Mannly confession makes it way easier and cheaper for the legal system
1 like@Lance Mannly Confession seals the deal, if I have video of you lobbing a brick through a window and you don't confess, the video can be picked apart and experts can argue that the video was doctored and pretty much just wear it down till everyone passes a not guilty just so they can go home and quit wasting their life over it.
1 likeNow if you confess they get to skip all of that drama.
His girlfriend prolly uses that “I have all the evidence” line with him before and he smart to no fall for it
1 likeJeff: I've already told you what happened
2 likesCop: No you didn't
Jeff: How didn't I?
🤣
Cop: "... You wouldn't believe how much evidence we've got, it's just crazy. Try guessing what it is."
3 likes@Lance Mannly Exactly! Don't say anything. You have the right to remain silent!
1 likeHow many tons? I mean if your talking 1000kg times more than one multiple then we should be discussing tonnes.
1 likeTimestamp?
0 likesThe streets makes you more rational than a soft detective life.
0 likes@Dan Gander -- your own comment is not exactly novel, either, Einstein.
1 like@Dan Gander
0 likesYou said it yourself "just like real life". In your dream world everyone listen to you but in the real world (Idiocracy) the majority likes fart jokes.
@x and I highly doubt ol Jeff here ACTUALLY did anything wrong but thats all they have to go on. Typically it would more than likely work if he was actually guilty
1 like@Dan Gander the same reason that makes Jeff so likeable.
0 likesThanks for the subtitles
0 likesLmao I’m on Jeff’s side for the first part lol
1 likeFree Jeff for giving the world one the great classic memes of all time!
0 likes11:16 god i love jeff this made me laugh lmao
0 likesJeff is definitely a likable guy and he's got the "street smarts". Don't talk to the cops, they aren't your friend and are only talking to you to try and pin something on you or if you're guilty get a confession. Jeff went home in 12 hours because he kept his mouth shut. If he talked who knows what would have happened with him
0 likesThat "Long time buddy..." really hits you in the heart.
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So sad.
18 likesYea that was really sad to hear
12 likeswhole Lott of pain behind it.
9 likesYup. The absolute dejection in his voice when he said that just hurt.
0 likesFind you a girl who feels about you the same way white women feel about random drug addicts and serial killers on the interweb
2 likesYou can hear in his voice that he doesn’t want to be addicted
0 likesThis goes out to everyone self snitching and getting locked up !
0 likeswhen you guys going to upload more? i love your channel but we need more of these
0 likesI can totally see this being a movie and Matthew McConahay being the guy in the chair and Bruce Willis is the cop
0 likesWhere’s his lawyer? I thought if you asked for one they can’t question you without one?
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Any decent public defender could have gotten this whole interview thrown out as evidence because he asked for a lawyer and was ignored. And I’m assuming Jeff probably knew that and just let it ride.
0 likesofficer: "You have the right to remain silent."
3885 likesjeff: remains silent
officer: "Wait. That's legal."
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Ha
11 likesJeff: exists
26 likesEveryone else: yOu haVe The RigGht To RemAin sIltenT!
people : *exits* says something interesting
8 likespeople like you: let me copy that and see how many likes I could get
I watched the video
13 likesI read like the first five comments
and I commented this
I didn't copy it, and if I did, it surely wasn't on purpose
😂🤣🤣
0 likesLmao I love this comment
2 likeslmfao thats funny
0 likes@goofy miro No
0 likes"I have the right to remain silent huh.....ok....well you got it."
0 likes@Tree on a Hill ha
0 likesWhy are people salty about if the comment is copied or not lmao what a waste of time to do that
1 likeJeff has been through that situation so many times its more of an annoyance at this point, most murderers get hit with the full force of law enforcement for the first time in thier lives, jeff is no murderer, those officers have nothing to threaten him with
0 likesI suspect there is a human rights violation when Jeff was asking for medical assistance and the police ignored and kept questioning.
0 likesI’ve been battling heroin addiction so I know how he feels somewhat
0 likesLife in prison for robbery....sounds about right. He's from the most incarcerated country in the entire world.
0 likes"You have the right to remain silent"
5651 likesJeff: say less
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literally say less
122 likes@No one he should’ve made a joke about that
17 likeslmao
1 likePolice: Shut up.
0 likes@Bruh_Kekyoin I WAS WAITING FOR IT LOL
0 likeslol
0 likesSay no more fam
0 likesJeff:
0 likesJeff's silence is poetry.
1 likeI believe Jeff was telling the truth.
0 likesForget the drugs, the voice and his tangible hatred for the police:
all I hear is a man angry at being accused of something he didn't do. Would u be happy at an accusation from a certain someone that may be able to make it "stick" to u?
Dang. I respect Jeff. Hope he gets better.
0 likesHe’s technically like saying fuck you, then he says thank you for the coke lmao made me laugh harder then it should of
1 likeJeff did exactly what you should do when questioned by the police. Lawyer up, then shut up. And also see how many snacks you can get out of them.
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Thanks for the advice, bro.
25 likesCan't picture myself using it, but thanks for the advice, bro.
Real tissues and not a toilet paper roll! I’d be sticking around too 😂
3 likesInvestigator: you have the right to remain silent... ...Do you understand your rights?
1 likeJeff: is silent
Investigator: surprised Pikachu face
"Well now you've handcuffed me by asking for a lawyer."
0 likes"Turnabout is fair play"
Why do they keep questioning him for hours AFTER he asked for an attorney? That is BS.
0 likesAND he needed methadone or he will get very sick. That's cruel to withhold from him.
Jeff should be given his own show! The Anti Hero is someone who just says what any switched on individual who knows the score is really thinking and feeling. No filter…..real honesty! This policeman just wants to have Jeff cut and dried so he can justify his salary to his boss! He has Jeff down as just another scratchy addict who is an easy target. Lazy policing.
0 likesCop: "you have the rights to remain silent, do you understand?"
10513 likesJeff: Remains silent
Now folks, that's a move.
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😂😂
21 likes😂😂
4 likesWhy? The cop doesn't need to get a yes from him as long as he read them to him.
33 likesA power move*
10 likes🤣🤣
2 likesSpeech 100
7 likesChris Shaffer well technically they need to confirm he understands the rights
43 likeswatch enough interrogations and yeah. basically the ones that keep quiet or lawyer up are the ones that get away with it. police are under no obligation to tell you the truth or what they do or dont have on you and you have no obligation to give them any information.
31 likes@Chris Shaffer he doesn’t need to get a yes from him but not getting anything from him means they can’t use nothing against him. lol
13 likes😂🤣😆
1 like😭
1 like@Chris Shaffer yes he actually does, if you dont acknowledge your rights amy good lawyer can make the claim that the officer didnt ensure you understood ur rights and abused that fact to get information from you, if you dont say yes then you havent been read your rights
7 likes@Surr3alD3sign No. It is stupid to not say yes and it is stupid to then not ask for a lawyer rifht away. Some cases recently have ruled against the defendent for keeping his mouth shut and not acknowledging their Miranda rights. Miranda is there for your protection and by not answering that is more often being considered a waving of those rights.
2 likesAlso while answering questions after refusing to acknowldge your Miranda rights, wven if the court throws it out (which is not certain) what you say can be used to rebut contradicting statements that you may say.
He was an idiot. Say yes. Get your lawyer. Be out in ten minutes.
@Chris Shaffer The police should have stopped interrogating him immediately when he asked for a lawyer, regardless of any acknowledgment of the Miranda reading. Also, he was explicitly told that he was under arrest for armed robbery. Until bail is set (if at all), he would be returned to jail—not "out in ten minutes."
6 likesYou don't know what you're talking about.
LMFAOOOO GOOD LORD, I wish this was Reddit so I could give you an award
1 like@Mack Booklet do they have to agree verbally? 🤔 serious question. Wondering what qualifies as a legally binding agreement when ride your rights
1 like@I’m Surrounded By Muggles The suspect must voluntarily waive their Miranda rights before questioning can proceed. So yes, for questioning to proceed, he has to agree but Jeff is just another species.
2 likesI so loved this. I was cracking up.
0 likesBe like Jeff
0 likes@Chris Shaffer if this is court, the judge DOES need an answer. i don't know if that holds true for "police," but through the trickery of the legal system, you give the judge standing over you when you say "i understand." etc. or so they say.
0 likesHonestly 🤣
0 likes@Ed *those that get away with it or don't talk themselves into a conviction for a crime they didn't do. A LOT of people help the police get super flimsy convictions by talking. They are 100% not on your side and as I understand it nothing you say there can or will be used FOR you in a court of law under any circumstances. There is zero upside to giving someone (who is very smart, very willing, and very capable) more tools to destroy you.
2 likesYou don't have to confess to end up doing time either; you just have to give them enough to build a house of cards just strong enough to convince the jury you're in front of, on that day.
cops: pikachu face
0 likes@DayTipster no. EVERYTHING & ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU. You're understanding is wrong and there are many innocent people in prison. There's a reason they are making conviction integrity units now.
1 like@Nicholas Brown the hockey industry?
0 likeslol
0 likes@Ed anyone who has ever watched a cop show should know by now to never talk to the police under any circumstances if accused of a crime, no matter what they claim to have or no matter how much they act like they wanna help you.
0 likesweird thing is that in all these cop shows, the accused can be a lawyer or another cop and they are still fooled into confessing their way into jail, seems pretty unrealistic.
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0 likesThat's a bold move cotton, well have to see how that plays out for him
0 likes@Jack M yeah people should use common sense but they don't. Anyways I was put in a hospital recently, in part, for my unwillingness to talk to the police.
0 likesi had an uncle like that on meth and he did so much he stared to forget who i was and his family was
0 likesJeff might be a bad person but this video teaches us to deal with these corrupt interrogation officers (Oliver Mann I'm looking at you).
0 likes2:26 damn Jeff he’s like I’m going back to my cell. He’s already done stuff and gotten arrested multiple times he’s tired.
0 likesNow I gotta watch Bad Santa again. The food court scene made me laugh fart.
0 likesCop: “I’m usually the prick”
6161 likesJeff: “you look like a prick”
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😆I will say that was hilarious!
79 likesAmazing the cops didn't laugh.
88 likesFucking GOLD!
25 likesThat was classic
11 likesI can't help it I spit Dr pepper out of my nose and on my phone from that one 😂😂😂
10 likes@BerryGyrl 413 Dr.pepper? Get that Coke disrespect out of here.
12 likesYes, thanks, I watched the video.
4 likesI came to the comments looking for this one!
0 likes@Ja2808 14 seconds ago... woah
0 likes@kaidoubleu ?
0 likes@Ja2808 why, exactly? You have it in the video.
1 like@Nicklas VEVA I was going to make the comment if none was already done
0 likesTell 'em Jeff
1 likeI laughed so hard I had tears in my eyes
0 likesThe tone and delivery though 🤯🤣👍💯
0 likes1:34
5 likes😂😂I laughed so hard when he said that
0 likesSavage
1 likeIt was an attempt to trick him, kinda, to seem like he's a friend and on his side... but Jeff shuts him down with "You look like a prick" absolutely brilliant man 😂
0 likesWeirdly respect him for that. I can relate to being an addict but not in trouble for it luckily, the way he's upfront and accepting of what he's done I think is why I kinda forgive him. Weird how it works. Hope he's doing better.
And you repeated this why? I can listen and hear you know.
1 like@Matthew W dr. Pepper > coke
0 likeslmaoooo jeff is such a badass for that
0 likesIf it was under different circumstances I would have said “I like Jeff, I want my kids to be like Jeff”
0 likesNot to be pedantic, but he says ...THE prick.' -which is even better!
2 likesI laughed my head off at that lol! 😆🤣
0 likesLmfaoo
0 likes@Wickedfaery420 69
0 likes@Revolver And you took the time to complain, why?
0 likesJeff is smart af! He played those cops like a fiddle lmfao Jeff is kinda like able 🤷🏾♀️ just don’t hurt/murder anyone Jeff :)
0 likesJeff's could be considered an antihero, because of the david and goliath situation. Popo read rights and he said he wanted a lawyer, which should have immediately ended the interrogation, but popo ignored it. He said he was a junkie and was going to go into withdrawal but popo ignored it. Although I'm not sure this situation actually fits Jeff being an antihero. He called popo's bluff, and popo had to release him. We seem to incorrectly associate antihero with someone standing up to authority, whereas villains are doing harm to innocent people.
0 likes[ Meditation leads to awareness of telepathy, and awareness of telepathy leads to meditation. ]
0 likesHonesty socially is more important than DOING to impress others. It’s not what we DO to build social value that matters. It’s the respect we are willing to give, as well as the authenticity and sincerity we have within our personalities. The ideas we choose to participate in matter most: they are either friendly or cruel socially. Material wealth, body size, facial features, or DOING will never create authority by default, which is the ability to pass judgments socially the most. Aristocratic men are hypocritical, cowardly, and jealous. Anger and zero accountability are not replacements for honesty and empathy. No one has control over ideas socially.
Authoritarianism is a shallow head game: the refusal to share honesty (friendship) socially. Men with negative intentions will show complete bias against ideas supporting emotional freedom, free thinking, and level states of being. Spiritual development, the focus away from the material and towards psychology (attraction) ONLY, is promoted as “not important” by conformist men with abusive or pragmatic personalities. Spiritual ideas immediately decentralize power, elevate mood, reduce manipulation, and eliminate leadership. Spirituality places much more emphasis on social inclusion, honesty, and collective consciousness. Authoritarians weaponize the material or development in it and use both as reasons to criticize and remain unfriendly (dishonest). Dishonesty is the only way the idea of power may exist. When friendship is seen as more important than power, material development is subservient to mood. When the material is used to boost self worth and reduce others socially, mood is subordinate to power.
Joyful ideas supporting free thinking (telepathy, cooperation, and honesty) encourage growth of the human persona, are anti-manipulative, and promote emotional harmony. Men focusing on the immaterial (personality) and on honesty (friendship) have more evolved minds compared to authoritarians consumed with leadership (power). In order to seek status, alphas intentionally remain closed-minded (materialistic), manipulative (controlling), and antagonistic (blame), while also forming intense judgments (jealousy) about more emotionally developed men. Men with mature minds are authentic with others, focus on humor, and shun the idea of emotional leverage. This makes them an unintentional threat socially to serious and conceited men with elitist personalities focused on dominance. Leadership is not warm, nor is it real. It is used in practice to reduce pride in others and to artificially boost feelings of self worth in an individual focused on social image only. Men focusing on telepathy are contradictory socially to alphas promoting leadership. Men with inherent worth (love for others) are offensive to men trying to prove worth (lack of belief in self) with material development.
All men know consciousness (Source) and possess a conscience. Possessing a conscience is knowing right from wrong, and refusing to lie about awareness. No man is exempt from understanding Source (love) within, and all of us know we are mentally connected. The idea of comparing human beings to unaware animals is cunning and manipulative. Alphas rely on shared lying socially about awareness in place of being honest (friendly). Character development is ignored with this psychology. Our feelings (thoughts and beliefs) are transmitted and shared vibrationally and mentally. In order to seek power, which is the intention to emotionally reduce others socially, men must feign unawareness of a conscience. Cruel ideas are deliberately participated in and broadcast mentally promoting social dominance. The willful focus on a friendly collective consciousness is a contrarian idea to human animals playing dumb. Being EQUAL TO in the mind socially IS secure, and the ONLY true expression of emotional security that exists. Authoritarians refuse to focus away from being unfair human animals, and remain consumed with social inequality. This forces an unrelaxed, emotionally tense environment driven by melodrama and contempt for others.
Alphas are mentally unstable, have manipulative personalities, and possess low feelings of self worth resulting from the intense focus on anger (authority), apathy (indifference), and advantages (dominance). Ideas rooted in mental dominance (alpha psychology) will never promote honesty (friendship). Alphas are homophobic, and are especially critical of friendly men that are emotionally developed. Men with empathy have already worked through insecurities and judgments to focus on telepathy. Prideful men that lie about insecurities seek control over feelings socially using blame and criticisms in order to maintain an image of being stronger. This creates artificial versions of emotional security and more value socially enforced with paranoia and anger. Resorting to vibrational attacks for the purpose of self promotion by reducing worth in others mentally leads to violence. Dominance over feelings is impossible, as we all share thinking. Men with emotional IQ are authentic socially and care about calm feelings more. We are all telepathic. There is no choice but to be level with others mentally, and to focus on the ultimate truth of what reality is (connection with Source). Evolved men refuse to criticize other people unprovoked or manipulate the truth. Alphas will always share critical thoughts about other people. Men with emotional depth focus on honesty socially more than alphas, creating non-violence.
The idea of a social hierarchy (human authority) is degrading and humiliating. It promotes closed-mindedness, fear, and the social inclusion of violence. Thoughtful men focusing on telepathy, and away from conformity, are judged relentlessly for having elevated emotions by alphas refusing to evolve. Lessor minds intentionally share cruel beliefs together promoting the social exclusion of men with empathy socializing positive. These men are mental only in focus, never play head games, and are level in the mind with all. Alphas seek emotional support and validation from each other socially, since the ideas they participate in are rooted in dishonor and physical aggression. Alphas judge honest (friendly) men the most, as they focus away from arrogance entirely, and expect friendship to be returned socially. Passing excessive, unprovoked judgments (authoritarianism) on a better psychology, wavelength, and state of being is jealousy. These criticisms always relate to social harmony and non-violence. Alphas rely on power of numbers to manipulate the truth and to keep primal ideas popular that are intentionally threatening towards men that have already focused away from machismo (lying and fear), and towards telepathy, honesty, and Source. Authoritarians will always promote vibrational attacks against men that have already grown past them in thinking, resulting in petty head games socially.
Intelligence is always associated with emotional IQ, and emotional IQ has a direct correlation to the mental focus on social equality. Social equality can only result from honesty (friendship) within the mind. The reason men chose to be honest is because they are aware telepathy is real. It looks stupid to lie about it. Alphas primarily focus on dominance in the material and social image, and focus entirely away telepathy. This reduces their emotional IQ socially. Because of this, alphas will always feel inferior to more honest (friendly) men. Alphas must always focus on acting skills to socialize, since the inner persona is focused only on criticisms, violence, and dishonesty. This creates a shallow personality with a dumb vibe. Forceful thinking men will always share jealousy with men sharing respect with more emotional depth. Only men with emotional IQ can form real personas vibrationally that are not shallow. It is only when the inner mind matches the outer persona that a human being can be likable socially. Shallow men are associated with lying and are not respected when it comes to intelligence, creating situations where they are avoided socially. This angers the minds of men possessing a lower psychology, which often creates unprovoked violent reactions. When thinking is focused on honesty, feelings radiate soft. When thinking is focused on lying, feelings radiate threatening.
Machismo and compassion are polar opposites. Machismo will never allow for healing to occur, while compassion is the promotion of both healing and emotional growth. Men focused on compassion will always outsmart less mature men with arrogance sharing no respect. Men will either allow healing (level thinking) to occur socially, or they will attempt to take away pride from others to artificially boost feelings of self worth. Alphas will always attempt to seek an image of more value socially by cheating (violence, greed, or leadership). Judgements from personalities with machismo usually have little substance. Only judgments relating to character issues (dishonesty), violence, or an excessively critical mind have real substance. Passing judgments on men for being honest (friendly) is shallow, arrogant, and completely against the development of our collective consciousness socially. Judgments from alphas are hypocritical, cruel, and reside in dishonor. Shallow judgments from authoritarians will always lead to drama, social inequality, and violence. Alphas focus intensely on cutting other men down unfairly in order to promote a better social image, calling it competitive.
It’s time for human beings to let go of classism (psychic warfare) for good. It is jealousy. Secure men are level in the mind and easy to get along with. Alphas resort to conniving and childish head games. Men that focus non-violent and refuse to lie evolve.
[ End drama. ]
https://youtu.be/hHcIOwgOHqk
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The Legend of Jeff!! Love this dude lol!
0 likes“Wham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell” -Jeff
3093 likesTrue poetry at its finest
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Lmaooo read this as he said it and it was golden 😂
29 likes10:18
19 likesI think Jeff could've made it into a Haiku, but he just didn't want to.
8 likes@SSgtBlackMamba this comment is gold hahahahahahahah
0 likesThis guy was awesome. I've had to do similar however he's #1 at the cops toro poopoo
0 likesThis cop just asked him a question after he requested a lawyer.....that is a violation of his civil rights.
0 likesI had to come watch this again for old time sake...Jeff is the best.
0 likesI think this is my favorite interrogation video ever
1 likeJeff only agreed to talk to them so he could get a coke...smart man
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Yeah, sugar helps a tiny bit when you're dope sick.
30 likesYup.He told them he needed methadone.didnt see them give a fuck about that.hoping he would go into withdraw so the could use it to their advantage
16 likesAlmost a 1000 ppl in 1day en this vid was posted a year ago 😳
1 likeLiked in 1 day
1 like@Jessie! lol you don’t just go into withdraw all of a sudden
0 likes@SpaceRanger you seem pretty dull, friend.
0 likes@dookie fingers What cuz I don't want to play pretend like they actually care.. Remember that when the put some false charges on you and you get to go to prison or spend thousands of dollars fighting some bullshit you had nothing to do with..The justice system is nothing but a business.. I mean no it's not we got that person with a tag light out no need to worry about all those missing kids and women
1 likeThe one thing he said that everyone in this situation needs to remember, guilty or innocent, doesn't matter.
2 likes"Everything I say CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST ME"
"You're not my friend." "You're not here to help me."
And when the cop says
"I can talk to your P.O. and tell him. Hey Jeff here is a good guy."
Jeff justs laughs at him.
@mark Harrison
0 likesUh. . I don't know if you missed the timeline, but the first time he mentioned methadone was *(at the least) 2.5 hours after the first interrogation. And that's just after the first interrogation. There's all the time while he's being arrested, transported, booking, then waiting before the first interrogation even happened. Withdrawal definitely occurs after HOURS for someone who has been doing dope for 14 years. And that's on the off chance that he did a shot RIGHT BEFORE he was arrested. There's a possibility he hadn't even gotten well before they picked him up. Of course he's sick.
The first time he asked for methadone, when he got a Coke, he was obviously sick. You can tell just by looking at him.
@BOYKE 2020 right lol it was just 9
0 likesIt's a great Interview. Talking about he's gonna tell his parole officer, he's a good guy. Jeff, that don't mean dick!
0 likesJeff: so when’s that coke gonna be here? Or is that just a fairytale?
1 likeJeff: so where’s that butterfinger you promised me?
For those who want to know what happened to Jeff, I just found his channel from the description. There are recent videos of him going to a dentist and driving a car, so I think the outcome turned out to be in his favour. He replies to questions, so you can show your love and support to him over there. Here's the link https://youtube.com/c/SYRENGEMUSIC.
2 likesDon't go there to be a prick, we don't know his story and have no right to throw judgement at him. Peace✌️
The last cop was about to cry 😂 what a baby! No butterfinger for you haha 😂
0 likesFor a drug addict, he handles the questions better than most of the murderers I've seen on this channel
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Just because he is an addict doesnt mean hes dumb
712 likes@Roundx Underrated comment my man. Jeff is wise beyond his addition.
296 likesnot all drug users are abusers and harm ppl bud. comparing murder to getting high is a weak moralistic argument.
273 likes@mermaidyoshi tell me you shoot heroin without telling me u shot heroin
37 likes@BabyBoat 15 or you know, there's a huge overdose epidemic and sweeping policy changes happening everyday and i'm informed about evidence-based approaches to healthcare? but ok
139 likes@mermaidyoshi Erm... I think they were saying a joke about how shooting heroin sounds like murdering someone called heroin. You may be informed about evidence- baased approaches to healthcare but your approach to humour could use some work.
19 likesGood joke @BabyBoat15!
Well it does help that he's been here before
4 likesWell of course he does. He has been to jail/prison before and probably fucked up on interrogations before so he knows not to talk to police. Murderers are usually first timers when it comes to interrogations and fuck it up as any normal guilty person would fuck up their first interrogation
17 likes@Roundx Drugs significantly damage the brain, so statistically a person addicted to drugs will have more cognitive challenges
10 likes@Predo Child True but if you're a previously intelligent person, drugs won't suddenly make you dumb (though they may affect your cognition). Addicts can be of all levels of intelligence. I've been addicted to many things including heroin for many years, and I graduated college, maintained a fairly normal high functioning life, and now work as a web developer. :)
24 likes@Predo Child And I guess I would refute the claim that drugs significantly damage the brain. It depends on what drug we're talking about but heroin does not cause 'significant' damage. Damage over time yes, but not significant. Maybe I'm just being autistic and nit picking though 😅
8 likes@BabyBoat 15 tell me you're 14 without telling me you're 14
9 likes@mermaidyoshi I think what he's saying is that you would expect a murderer to prepare to answer questions at least this well.
2 likesFor most of the murderers on this channel, it's their first rodeo. For someone with 10 years of heroine addiction under his belt, this is just another Tuesday night.
10 likesExactly lol 😂
0 likes@ThePikeyPrince its not really that good of a joke when you have to explain it.
1 likeNie job explaining it tho!
@Cristian Martinez You do know that criticism only applies if nobody got the joke, right? I got the joke, therefore the person who made the joke in the first place didn't have to explain it. A third party (me) had to explain it to one of the other people who read the joke because they didn't get it.
1 likeThis is something I dislike about aphorisms: they are easily misapplied or worn down into meaninglessness. When you were a child and you heard a joke on television that you didn't understand, but your parents laughed, did you assume it wasn't funny or that you didn't get it because you were ignorant of the knowledge required to get it? The second, right? Well, there you go! Not every time someone needs a joke explained does it have to do with the joke being flawed.
I typed this eigh my red lbow
0 likes@Lua stop lying, you didn't do any drugs
0 likes@ThePikeyPrince lmao why is no one telling you that how you explained the joke is wrong though ??? it's like every other "tell me you pregnant without telling me you pregnant" joke on a photo of ice cream and pickles or "tell me you got dumped without telling me you got dumped" on a video of you cutting bangs at 3 am. literally the entire internet knows these jokes except you apparently.
2 likes@Heather McNally Well, I appreciate you telling me the true meaning of the joke. I applied it to the context I encountered it in and it made sense, but I am glad that I know the real source of the joke.
1 likeOn the other hand, this thread alone demonstrates that I am not the only person who isn't familiar with the joke: the person I originally responded to and the person who criticised the obscurity of the joke obviously weren't aware of the joke either. On top of that, the specific interpretation of the joke as you explain it isn't easy to understand when applied to an entire video about different cases, as opposed to a single photo of ice cream and pickles.
Thanks anyways.
@ThePikeyPrince well, I think at least you'll start noticing it more in other contexts and find it funny, and you'll even start making some up on your own! the fun of it is that it can be applied to almost any situation :)
0 likesAddicts are very familiar with this dog and pony show. Repeat offenders. Adjacent or involved in violent crime for money.
0 likesThe man is very intelligent for being on h for 14 years. Jeff da king
wym for a drug addict??? drug addicts can be very intelligent
0 likes😂
0 likesofficer: “you have the right to remain silent”
153011 likesjeff: remains silent
officer: 👁👄👁
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aw man dont bring that tiktok shit onto youtube 😐
4828 likesOfficer: Wait that’s illegal
5047 likesWatching Jeff own these guys is like doing ok enough at driving on PolePosition ......that you keep getting that "time extended" message on the screen. Go Jeff! You remind me of my middle school years! Op!!
864 likeswulf77 I hate Tik Tok as much as the next guy, but the 👁👄👁 face is funny in its own right. I didn’t even know it was “from Tik Tok”.
3927 likes@Matt give me a attorney
124 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven sure doesn't seem to be.
47 likes@wulf77 you tub of lard, 👁👄👁 been a thing before tiktok existed
665 likes@🌙 ImOnlyADream🌙 exactly this person sounds like a naive boomer lol
215 likeswulf77 its not tiktok at all lmao was made way before tiktok
82 likes@wulf77 yt comments are dry asf it'd be better to bring spice into play
94 likes😂😂😂😂
4 likesAre memes shit now or am I old
48 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
3 likesGood point
3 likesPls tell us ignorant people what eye 👄 eye means....
16 likeswulf77 lol gatekeeping youtube now??
35 likesthey have to get the confirmation before they interrogate him im pretty sure, if the person doesnt understand their rights then the answers you give to them are not admissible in court, but they can still just send you to jail and use any other information they have against you
18 likes@Lec En you're legit sped if you think ppl cry over the internet
2 likesI am confused. I thought once you asked for an attorney they were supposed to stop questions.
40 likeswulf77 that is not Tik Tok, I have seen it on YT before tik tok existed
15 likes@DotsYT yea sureeeee u did lol
5 likes@Lec En if my comment got you that offended who's the one crying?
5 likesLol
1 likeSurprised me that they seemed confused by his reaction. I was thinking I would do the same thing. They told him anything he says can be used against him, not for him, so therefore isn't he best to not react at all and just sit and smile??
37 likeswulf77 no❤️
4 likesL O L
0 likes@wulf77 that face is from tiktok?
1 like@wulf77 what u mean lmao? People have been commenting that shit before tiktok was even an idea in someones head
17 likes@Dani
1 likeOkay. What's that shit even mean? I honestly don't know
😆
0 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Judita I mean the this person: me: type comments and the face. Wasnt quite sure which they meant so i just said that shit lmao sorry for the confusion!!
0 likes@Monte Gavin III writing that much shows how offended I got u
15 likesLol
0 likes👊
1 likeElmoStreetside wait that’s legal
0 likes@Verbal Vertigo he has the presumption of innocence. You have no right to say he is guilty of robbery.
6 likes😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@Timberly Warrington lol.. lots of "funny" shit back then was really just lame
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesLol
1 likeArisette nice.
0 likes@Joey Scagnoli lol..Pole Position! You gotta be at least 45 to know that game.
1 likeRoachDoggJR /Raven what’s funny about it? That you put together the emojis some corporation gave you to make a firby face? Hilarious dude good one. Some normie tier humor here.
3 likesjajajaja
0 likesLMAOOOO
1 likeit's hilariously obvious
0 likes👁👁👄
2 likesWhat in the world is "👁👄👁" supposed to mean?
5 likes@wulf77 👁👄👁
6 likeslol. yep. it all started and ended with that!
0 likesWhy is this top comment?
7 likes@Lora Wiese no. It means that "they want an attorney". Which means they have to provide him with one. That's it. The police can talk all they want afterwards; ask as many questions as they want afterwards; sing "Jingle Bells" if they want afterwards. The question is, would anything Jeff says AFTER he asks for attorney, would any of that be immisable in court? Pretty sure the answer is NO. Nevertheless, if Jeff would have kept talking after requesting an attorney, while his answers may not be used against him in court, they still may very well be used against him in terms of the ongoing investigation as a whole, especially if the cops are still searching for evidence, explanation, and answers regarding questions that they are unable to answer/solve themselves
4 likes#findjeff
0 likeswulf77 what is “that tik tok shit” because 👁👄👁 is a beautiful creation
7 likes😂😂😂
1 likeNice pfp
1 likeDamn this made me laugh pretty hard
2 likesOfficer Dudley DoRight just could not get it Jeff was not going to talk with out a lawyer. Dudley was hoping that Jeff would slip before he saw a lawyer. That cop implied he want to help him . Jeff knew he wasn't his friend.
6 likesHe really thought the guy was a talker I guess 😅
1 likeEXACTLY
1 like@wulf77 tiktok has been on youtube for a while
1 likePerfect lol
1 like"Why ain't he talking?"
2 likes"Ma namma Jeff"
Yeah but "that doesn't mean d*ck!" at 13:18 ba-ha-ha
1 like@wulf77 why
1 likewulf77 that originated on twitter
1 likewulf77 BAHA 💀💀
1 likeTo my knowledge when you read someone’s rights you cannot continue until they say they understand or do not understand.
3 likes@wulf77 what's a tiktok?
3 likesFurry RoachDoggJR /Raven oh it’s from tik tok? I thought it was just a funny thing. But yea tik tok is ass
1 like@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven it's not from tiktok...
2 likesRiver Exactly.
2 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven its cringe
2 likesDavid Maxwell What’s cringe? What are you calling cringe?
1 likeLooool i cant with y'all 😫
1 likeThe 👁👄👁 face
1 likeFr
1 likeNo
1 likewulf77 the 👁👄👁 face isn’t just on tiktok buddy
2 likesSome people made it up on youtube
So it came from both Tiktok And youtube :)
You mean detective
0 likeslol
0 likesI admire this comment because they didn’t pull “OMG THX FOR THE LIKES 😍😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰😻😻😻😻”
1 like@🌙 ImOnlyADream🌙 Tub of lard I- 😃
2 likes@Timberly Warrington All that shittin made me think of Steve Martin at the airline counter trying to get a ticket home..of course it was a different expletive, lol
0 likeswulf77 don’t gatekeep a literal app that’s did embarrassing
5 likeswulf77 ALSO STUFF LIKE THAT HAS BEEN AROUNF FOR YEARS ITS NOT “tiktok shit”-
1 like😂😂😂
1 likeFurry RoachDoggJR /Raven no it's not
0 likes😂😂
1 likeMy thoughts exactly. 🤦🏽♀️
1 like🤣
0 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesFurry RoachDoggJR /Raven it’s not funny
1 likeDamn I'm straight confuzzled on this one this guy knows his fucking rights
2 likes@LifeInPink999 it's clear that everybody in this situation- Yes, EVERYBODY in these rooms, living these situations seem to be deeply suffering of Borderline Syndrome..
1 likeAnd seriously, I don't think I would act and answer much better than Jeff, or the "Inquisitor" too. (This investigator's acting is cheesy as fuck! He looks more like "Inquisitor")😆😂. 🕵️📢 "Jeff, fhfhthrhd.. 💪💉🤡"I need my prescription of heroin medication, Man!?
LifeInPink999 I agree, but I wanted to make the joke
0 likesROFL
0 likesI'm here to help you. I can speak to your P.O. BAAAAWWWW LMFAO! Ya right!
0 likesOfficer: You weren’t supposed to do that...
0 likescan’t you confirm that non verbally?
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven whats wrong with tiktok
0 likesBest! 🏅🏅🏅🏅
0 likes@wulf77 i mean that’s literally what happened
0 likes@wulf77 dude got 33k likes on a comment I think it was worth it
0 likes@Matt "Lets arrest this guy, and let Withdrawal do the work for us"
0 likesRight answer: "Yes, i understood my rights. I want a lawyer" - he didnt confirm he understood his rights.
1 likeO
0 likes@Max VF exactly.
0 likes@wulf77 it’s literally three emojis, chill damn
0 likes@Samurai Hoodie Girl u replied to a 2 month old comment but I’m the one that has to chill? Lmfao
1 like@wulf77 dude...barely anyone looks at the time a comment was made and you were the first one I saw
0 likes@Timberly Warrington memes are so low effort at “ironic” now, it’s just pure miserable teenage energy
1 likeWhat does 👁️👄👁️mean?
2 likessurprised Pikachu face
2 likesABSOLUTE LEGEND
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@wulf77 👁👄👁
0 likesArisette hhahahaha
0 likesLMFAOO
0 likes@wulf77 u sound a little bothered over an emoji lol
1 like@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven its not even funny tho
0 likes@sick 👁 👄 👁
1 likeOmfg 🤣
0 likes@wulf77 👁️👄👁️
1 likeThat was funny
0 likes@wulf77 I'm old, what's an eye a mouth and an eye mean?
1 like@Matt it is illegal to hold him that long during interrogations and deny a lawyer once requested. All evidence would not be admissible. 🤷🏼♂️
2 likesLol
0 likesLMAOOOOOOOO
0 likesHAHAHAHAHA
0 likesCringe comment.
0 likesGet out of here.
@wulf77 Thankyou.
0 likeslol
0 likesHAHAHAHHAHA
0 likesCop:You have the right to remain silent
1 likeJeff:.........
Cop:wait .. that's illegal!!!
FAXXXXX
0 likesArisette Your comment has 45,000 likes. That's got to be some kind of record.
0 likesThis is why you say: "I want a lawyer", to ANY question they might have.
1 like@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven fr
0 likesYup. 👍🏽
0 likes@Calcium Crusader anyway, i started blasting
0 likesFucking screaming😂😂😂👏🏾👏🏾
0 likes@Timberly Warrington when
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven it’s not funny. at all, it’s the most unfunniest shit
0 likesLMAO
0 likes@Timberly Warrington no, yall are just older and doing what almost everyone does to younger, new things: looking down on it.
2 likesACAB
0 likes@wulf77 👁️👅👁️
0 likeslol fr
0 likes@wulf77 is that a lot for you to read.
0 likes@wulf77 also that face is older than tik tok. Sorry if you didn’t use it that much but other people did, at least me and my friends did before tik tok that’s why I’m pretty sure other people did. Is this too long for you to read as well.
1 like@wulf77 that shit is older than tic tac
1 likewait that's legal
0 likesIm dead 😂😂
0 likes@wulf77 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
0 likes😂
0 likes🤣😭🙏🏻
0 likes😂
0 likes@Judita suprise or shock i guess based on context
0 likes😅😅😅😅
0 likes@wulf77 gonna cry?
0 likesCongratulations on 57k likes 😎
0 likes@wulf77 boohoo
0 likesHonestly I find it annoying as hell, it's way too overused
1 like@Fenrize what ???
0 likes@Regina Gilby What's so confusing about my comment? If you think it was a reply to the usual debates in the thread, no. I was talking about the emoji
0 likes@wulf77 fr that shit ain’t even funny
1 like@Timberly Warrington if you think shit like rage comics and Impact top and bottom text are the pinnacle of memes then your opinion is not valid
0 likes😂😂 tiktok is taking over
0 likes@Timberly Warrington that's a lot of shits
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven haha so funni.
0 likes@wulf77 bestie it’s not even from tiktok😐
0 likesA classic lol
0 likes@wulf77 its an old classic....
0 likes@wulf77 fr "👁👄👁" isnt funny
1 like@wulf77 that shit wasnt from tik tok it was from stan twt in 2019 i was there 🙄
0 likes@wulf77 👁👄👁 existed before tiktok, i didnt even know that it was known from tiktok
0 likes@wulf77 that's not from tik tok wtf?
0 likes@wulf77 What do you mean? 👁👄👁
0 likes@wulf77 It was way before tiktok, you cringelord
0 likes@wulf77what tiktok shit 👁️👄👁️
0 likes@Jordan 🐬
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven Wait when was it funny again? Yea....never.
1 like@wulf77 bruh how are they?😐
0 likes@wulf77 if tiktok ruins youtube il actually quit
1 like@wulf77 aw man don't bring that fetus behavior onto YouTube
0 likesHey pay attention all the black guys on the First 48!! This is how it’s done!!!!
0 likes@wulf77 👁👄👁 is WAYYYYYY older than tiktok
0 likesYou know dat right?
@Dislob3 cool story bro.
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven Me neither 🤷🏽♀️🤣
0 likes@wulf77 that's from tiktok?
0 likes@wulf77 👁👄👁 started on twitter
0 likes@Ajburn82 essentially what's supposed to be the next surprised Pikachu face
0 likes😭😭😭😭😭☠
0 likes@wulf77 yes cuz 3 emojis are used exclusively on tik tok
0 likesBruh
0 likes@wulf77 what is "that tiktok shit"?
0 likesthe face 👁👄👁 has been around for years
I cracked up when the cop asked if he understood his rights and Jeff didn't respond. I knew immediately what he was doing, he sure as shit understood his right to remain silent lmao.
1 likeFurry RoachDoggJR /Raven no its not in any way
0 likes🌙 ImOnlyADream🌙 still not funny
0 likesPenny4UrThots nope this👁👄👁 is what comedy looks like now i must have forgotten that theres no hope for humanity
0 likesAjburn82 it means that who ever is posting it has too many chromosomes
0 likesMia Moore no u❤️
0 likesMonte Gavin III gotta love someone saying ok boomer like that’s still a thing people do
1 likeRubyXIII no
0 likesisabclla_ they should be pressed and rethink their entire life
0 likesMoved channels actually its debated where it was created no matter what it’s honestly one of the dumbest things I’ve seen
0 likesM.T ill try to answer for them 👁👄👁 how is this funny cause its not it’s actually stupid thats the poring booze on mecha godzilla of the internet
0 likessick its so not funny that it hurts it’s legit cringe
0 likesJeff: “why you booing me I'm right”
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven furgot
0 likes@wulf77 you sodding tictac 👁👄👁 existed before you even heard about TikTok
0 likeswulf77 ???
0 likesHAHAHA LOL!!
0 likes@wulf77 r/agedlikemilk
0 likes@🌙 ImOnlyADream🌙 nah
0 likeslol
0 likes@Daltonalcock I believe in you and your statement 100%
1 likeEdit : Fuck tiktok
@Joey Scagnoli middle school badass here
0 likesThis man has some good ideas
0 likes🤣🤣
0 likes@wulf77 thats from a tik tok?
0 likes@wulf77 umm youtube is just one big and longer tiktok.
0 likes"Anything you say can and will be used against you in court". now really.. you think people will cooperate after you say that? NO.
1 like.
0 likeshaha
0 likes@Mathias B. because anything you say can, and will be used against you in the court of law. The cops read him his Miranda Rights, Jeff is refusing to talk until he has legal representation, but the cops are still trying to interrogate Jeff, and that, is a big no no
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven yessir
0 likesThe fact that a good amount of you guys are pressed over an eye and mouth emoji is astonishing really. I find it no different than the 😐 or 😀 emojis, and if your problem is just emojis in general and you can't learn how to just swipe away, then the Internet is probably not a good place to be for you. :/
0 likes😭😭😭😭😭
1 like@wulf77 how do you know it's from Tiktok...👀
0 likes@wulf77 👁👄👁
0 likes@ElmoStreetside reddit is poggers wholesome
1 likeIt started on youtube
0 likes@wulf77 true
0 likesExactly
0 likes“Wham bam, thanks for the coke n put me in my cell”
0 likesTo be fair, people almost never remain silent lol
0 likes@wulf77 grrr
0 likesLolol
0 likesLAWYER UP IMMEDIATELY ALWAYS
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven who asked
0 likesSo I actually looked at the comment section before watching the video and this comment made me laugh so hard while I was watching the video lmao 😂😂
0 likes@wulf77 that's all youtube comments already dude. tik tok is basically youtube comments
0 likes@Jason Geerer You have the right to be a lawyer
0 likes@Mathias B. oh god not me!!!! 🤣😂
0 likesLmao
0 likes86k likes wah kya baat hai yeh. Mast hai. Lage raho.
0 likes@wulf77 you the social media police or sum?
0 likes@casey dunbar no, no, noooo, just no. What do you not understand about YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, EVERYTHING (YES INCLUDING YES OR NO) CAN BE USED AGAINST YOU. You don’t have to answer yes or no. You don’t have to answer ANYTHING.
0 likes@wulf77 that face was a thing years before tiktok
0 likes@wulf77 👁👄👁
0 likes@Jackson C 👁_👁
0 likes@Jackson C MY DUDE UR PICTURE IS LITERALLY BIG CHUNGUS AND UR TALKING ABOUT CRINGE. LIKE WHAAAT
0 likeslmao
0 likes90k likes wow
0 likesDamn nearly 100k likes
0 likesAnd not even a “ThX FoR ALl ThE LiKEs”
0 likes@wulf77 lmfao bozo
0 likes@wulf77 YouTube is already tiktok
0 likes@Matt WOW like that makes fucking sense lol.
0 likes@Shannonpo
0 likes@inzaghi just a lot of people use it from TikTok
0 likes@Ava Rosalía You girls (or "guuuuuhrrrlz") use it, me and the boys don't. Not everyone's a Stacy
0 likeshe simply did what was asked of him
0 likes6’5”/153lbs.?? Boi need some milk!
2 likes@wulf77 how does this have to do with anything lamo
0 likesaw man dont bring that tiktok shit onto youtube 😐
0 likesThat’s what I was thinking’s
0 likeswow you got a lot of like's,
0 likesthe coppers do warn them
then they play them, coppers lying, agreeing, pretending whatever it takes. these interrogations are fascinating to watch,
green M above
@ElmoStreetside reddit moment
0 likesFirst off hes a detective and He is just reading him his rights Its his choice to remain silent most pepople do
0 likes@wulf77 it's been on YouTube for longer than just this
0 likes@wulf77 those types of comments were definitely around before tiktok
0 likes@Jessycac ur codeine trippin, yt comments are some of the best comments anywhere on the internet. ur fr trippin if you think otherwise
0 likes@Eric Briggs yes because the
1 like‘nobody:
not a soul:
me when i walk 😆😆😆😆😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🥲: 0:00’
comments are hilarious
@wulf77 but but YouTube existed long before Tiktok as well as emojis
0 likesI need to reply
0 likes#GasTheWeebs
0 likes@wulf77 is it really that big of an issue
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven It's not lol, they're just mad
0 likes😂🤣😂🤣🤣
0 likes@Jessycac i can tell you watch 1 demographic type of videos on youtube
0 likes@wulf77 👁👅👁
0 likes@wulf77 its a facial expression lol
0 likesYoure the most liked comment ive ever seen in my life, and im surprised the reply limit hasn't even been reached.
0 likes@wulf77 Lol that emoji combo has existed since before it was called Tik Tok
0 likesBad act but well .. bad police too
0 likesconsequences
0 likesthis is the most liked chain of comments i have seen on youtube
0 likesThere is no reason to talk to the cops they won't believe anything you say that proves you innocent because criminals lie and the only thing you can ever manage to do is say something that will get you in trouble, which you can do even if you're innocent and just have a shit memory or misspoke. If it's something good that can help you, save it for a lawyer.
0 likes@fieldy409 If you want to go in jail fast then yes, there is no reason to tal to the cops xD . If you want to be free then the only option is to talk with them.
0 likesTrue, and very real
0 likes@wulf77 just like Viners🙄
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven how is it funny
0 likes@Unusual Swoop everything
0 likes@S T it's used by special ed people
0 likes@Hey Im Here when was the face made
0 likes@DUCKONAROLL NO ONE BOUGHT UP BEING GAY, JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DISAGREES WITH YOU DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE HOMOPHOBIC. I LITERALLY WANNA BE STRAIGHT AT THIS POINT ASSOCIATING WITH THIS COMMUNITY IS THE WORST THING I EVER DID
0 likes@Bric Mabesa redditor
1 like@HSHSHS idk
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven it's not from tiktok, that face has been used on Discord at least since 2016, before Tiktok even existed in its current name. Kids just don't have a concept of time.
0 likesYES 😂
0 likes@wulf77 I'm not sure how old you are, but that has been around since well before TIkTok existed
0 likes@Jessycac cringe
0 likes"You weren't supposed to do that"
0 likes@wulf77 haven’t people been doing that way before Tik tok? I thought it only got big like a year or two ago?
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven it wasnt funny and it never will be
0 likesHol up he listened
0 likesrepetitive and unfunny meme
0 likes@zachary z
0 likesI ain't you's homie, aight?
Get back to making your short crappy animations, as will I continue to do what I do. Stay fresh!
@zachary z my man straight up said “carr”
0 likeslol this dude…
@zachary z
0 likesDude, I’m 22. If anything, it’s not very mature of you to keep saying “i dont care”. That’s cringe. C’mon Zac, if you really didn’t care, you would’ve stopped replying. I can tell by your uninformed speech that you’re in your early teens and trying to act older, but instead of being tactful and respectful, you’re being irrational and cringey.
This damn tread is an enigma worthy of its own anime series.
0 likesDon’t worry, I am calm@zachary z. I’m sorry, I don’t know to be honest with you what my motivations are. I just read your description and that is all.
0 likesLMAAAAAAO
0 likes@wulf77 bruh what tik tok shit
0 likes"Well I didn't mean it FOR REAL."
0 likesLMAOOOOOOOOO
0 likesDead af
0 likesWhat this tape shows me is a total abrogation of Jeff's rights. He asks for an attorney, and in response is left sitting in a cell for five hours until the next round of interrogation begins. This video should have been made available to the attorney he eventually gets.
0 likes@wulf77 i dont use tiktok i dont understand
0 likesTik Tok got that from twitter lol that face was around long before it was on tiktok
0 likesLmao
0 likesRIGJT LMFAOOO HE WAS MAD
0 likes@wulf77 That emoji exist before tiktok even exist you do one who bring tiktok here
0 likeslmao I'M DYING
0 likes100k likes, damn
0 likes@wulf77 its not that deep LOL
0 likes@wulf77 ur mom
0 likesnah fr 😭
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven exactly!
0 likes@Ava Rosalía they are a redditor
0 likes@Ajburn82 it's just funni face
0 likes@wulf77 ok snowflake
0 likesLololololol
0 likesJeff: I'm gonna do what is called a pro gamer move...
0 likes@wulf77 chill out have some fun, not everything trending has to be cringe
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven giorno giovanna be like 🍩🍩🍩
0 likes👁👄👁
Bruh
0 likesthat comment may have made my summer...thank you
0 likesNever in my life have I seen so many likes
0 likesS
0 likes@Matt thats they do, ive been jeff a few times
0 likesHonestly he’s a breath of fresh air after all the frankly psychotic people we’ve been looking through he talks like a normal person not some wack job. I mean I don’t know if he’s exactly a good guy or whatever but he certainly isn’t a school shooter or lover murderer like he isn’t a complete sicko I can tell from the way he’s talking
0 likes@Monte Gavin III boomers are at least 75 now, I don't think any gentleman watching these videos is 75
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likes@wulf77 that sht aint from tiktok thats from fkin reddit (i think)
0 likes126 k likes… holy shit
0 likesLol
0 likesHoly shit bro 126k likes
0 likes127 thousand likes!
0 likes@wulf77 bro it’s not that deep
0 likes@wulf77 u obviously don’t know wtf tiktok is😭 this isn’t a tiktok face lmfao
0 likesLOL
0 likes@wulf77 lol what 👁👄👁
1 likelmao
0 likes@MrGooglize Together, the emojis 👁️👄👁️ are usually meant to represent staring, usually while in shock, disgust, or confusion.
0 likes“That make sense dawg”
0 likesyooo
0 likes@wulf77 It's a "social media" thing :)
0 likesHahaha
0 likes@wulf77 👁👄👁
0 likeslmao
0 likesHaha
0 likes@Matt Thats what the Antihero, according to the video, wants from you.
1 like😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesLol😂💀
0 likes😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesLMAOOOOOOOOO
0 likesON FUCKING GOD
0 likeslol
0 likes@wulf77 did he die?
0 likeshow the actual fuck does this have so many likes
0 likesThat A S L Profile Picture ❤️
0 likesJesus 136 THOUSAND likes!
0 likesThanks for the subtitles
0 likesLmaooooo
0 likes@🌙 ImOnlyADream🌙 best insult I've ever heard XD
0 likes@wulf77 this text meme format existed long before tiktok, just say u wanna be different and hate what u consider mainstream and go 👁👄👁
0 likesYea
0 likesI honestly don't know how these trained cops didn't understand what he was doing. the way he kept saying "do you understand do you understand" to the point they had speed it up bc he wouldn't stop asking 😂 I understood what he was doing after maybe the third "do u understand" like if I figured it out how did they not 💀
0 likes@wulf77 still getting flack over that comment a year later...damn. I literally went through the whole history just to see everyone go off on it 😆😂🤣💀☠⚰
1 likeArisette
0 likesTbf...
What? Unless he's trying to incriminate himself and just leave it up to the evidence, it.might be one of the worse things he could do.
Jeff: you look like a prick
0 likesDude thank you for finally using this meme in a funny way. Sincerely, respect 🙌
0 likes😂🤣😂
0 likes"Do you undershtand the wrights I read to you?"
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven It wasn't from tik tok at all, I've seen people use them back in 2017 I'm pretty sure and I was like "STOP IT, IT'S DISGUSTANG"
0 likesQuote of the fuckin' day... " wham, bam, thanks for the coke, put me back in my cell." 🤣🤣
0 likes@wulf77 👁👄👁
0 likesLol he can remain silent after he understands that he needs to acknowledge if he understands his rights
0 likesOfficer: This guys a fucking legend
0 likesExactly
0 likes@wulf77 frfr
0 likesIt may have been said already but your right to remain silent starts when you acknowledge that you understand your rights. Would think that would be obvious.
0 likes146k likes. The legend of Arisette. 🧐
0 likes@Penny 😃
0 likes😭
0 likeshe has the right to remain silent, but the officer still has the right to ask questions and extract information.
0 likes@Sonic RoachDoggJR /Raven its not
0 likes@wulf77 i would agree with you but right here it's actually pretty funny
0 likes@wulf77 tik tok BAD YouTube GOOD
0 likesJeff is the boss!
0 likesHaha
0 likes@wulf77 👁👄👁
0 likes@dystopicorchid 😐
0 likesJeff knows the game 😁
0 likesI enjoyed that part the most 🥰 I’m rooting for Jeff
0 likes@wulf77 I'm on tiktok a lot, we hate that face too.
0 likes@wulf77 tiktok bad give likes
0 likesThe confidence of a man who knows he's innocent and isn't afraid of a night in jail. Potent combination.
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Or one who can’t remember what he did.
54 likesUnderrated comment. 🙌
12 likes@Girum Zemichael Are you under the impression that heroin would cause someone to commit armed robbery and forget they did so?
71 likes@Jayson Iorg I was being nice because he has a likable personality no matter what he did or didn’t do. Otherwise I would have said, he was denying and evading as anyone in such situations would, I guess. Otherwise, I know nothing about heroin and I don’t plan to know :) Knowing it doesn’t bring out your best self is enough for me.
6 likesLOL- Jeff is guilty as guilty gets my friend- he did it. I'd bet my right nut on it. The main thing that give sit away to me is that when they accuse him of it he never asks where or when it took place. If someone accused me of a robbery I knew I didn't commit the first thing I would want to know is where and when- wouldn't you? Then you know where you where and what you were doing and can provide that information to the police and hopefully go home- right? But he never asks, which tells me he either knows about it or was involved in it. Also- when you're innocent you never refuse to talk- you refuse to shut up, you provide every tiny detail to them of what you were doing and where you where, who else was there- and you do so passionately. You should be angry- I would be, this guy is just resigned to what's happening to him really. He thinks they probably don't have much of a case if they're continuing to interview him- and in a way he's right- I don't know if they got him or not but, he's guilty.
14 likes@Stoney's Dead how nice of you to disagree with literally everyone else
16 likes@Stoney's Dead you're logic is flawed if you've been in the system before innocent or not you'd never talk under investigation if you knew what was good for you.
55 likesNo such thing as a innocent smack head
2 likes@Jayson Iorg with lack of sleep and being high asf u can black out just like alcohol
0 likes@Stoney's Dead There's a good chance he doesn't give a shit when and where it happened. He knows he's not gonna convince the detectives of anything they don't already think they know. He's been through the system and knows how it works. All he's concerned with is not giving them anything that can and will be used against him. He did the right thing by not talking. Wether you are guilty or innocent never speak to the people trying to pin a crime on you, always refer to a lawyer.
36 likesHa
0 likesIf he’s that bad of a junkie I would think he probably is kinda of afraid of going to jail (unless he knows that there is heroin readily available in the jail) but for a junkie the scariest thing is going through withdrawal. The thing he’s probably most concerned with is how he’s gonna get out of there and how’s gonna score when he does.
8 likes@Jayson Iorg - no, that would be meth which does that
2 likes@Jayson Iorg I don't remember 90% of the shit I did addicted to heroin and fentanyl.
1 like@Stoney's Dead you dont do that you dont ask where and when you're just setting yourself up to not be ruled out. He played it perfectly you know why you're sure he did it yet he beat it
2 likes@Skipst23 Fire kicks yep that’s the compassion I like to see from my fellow human beings! I’m sure Jesus would say the same thing myaaaannnnn
0 likes@Girum Zemichael I've done lots of heroin it doesn't make you black out and forget anything unless your asleep lol just incase anyone was wondering
1 likeUmm spoiler alert?
0 likesHe would be troubled by spending time in there as he is beginning to withdraw from heroin, which is a living hell, especially in that environment. He just knows the way the whole legal game works, that's all.
0 likes@Stoney's Dead There are a great deal of innocent people doing time for crimes they did not commit who spoke to them in their interview, and appealed their innocence throughout. Anything you say can be and often is twisted around by the prosecution. It is always a risky road.
2 likesThat is why the Miranda Rights exist.
Anyone experienced with legal troubles knows not to talk to them at all once charged/under arrest, and to request a lawyer to be present, and answer with "No comment" or silence. They will have to let you go before too long anyhow, and you can then begin to organise your defence without having given them anything they can dissect and find a way to twist around on you.
Once they have charged a given individual, they won't turn around and believe you are innocent upon talking with you. Their whole mission from that point is to find a way to get you convicted.
The approach mentioned above is the same advice that a lawyer will give you.
@Joe Coonan Jesus christ- how many times do I have to answer this same exact post? Every one of you has said this same thing I- and I never said any different nor do I disagree with you- I was talking about what ppl "do"- not what they "should do". I worked in the system for many years bud- I'm not guessing here, I'm telling you flat out what the majority of ppl do- period. You can argue with it if you like but it doesn't change the fact that 99% of innocent ppl will talk to you without a lawyer present, whether it's the right thing to do or not. And that includes ppl who have been in trouble before, who know exactly how the police operate, ppl who have been advised in the past to never speak to a cop without representation present- they still talk when they're innocent. And when their lawyer gets there they all say the same thing- "But I'm innocent this time..." Now granted- I didn't deal with a lot of organized crime or gang members- maybe they're different- but the average joe, which is by far what makes up the bulk of the prison population- talks when he's innocent. At least until they feel they're being setup or that no one is listening. Then they often want counsel but, until then- 99% of them think they can go home without ever needing counsel because they're innocent.
0 likesOhh Jeff was not innocent at all. He committed this crime.
0 likes@Girum Zemichael this case is actually closed, he didn't commit his wife's murder
0 likesPeople like you work in law enforcement and lock away innocent people.
0 likes@Stoney's Dead Not everyone reacts angrily in these situations though. Some people stay calm and collected, and since he had been arrested before, he knew what a detective who has true evidence looks like. If they don't have anything, there is literally no reason to talk until you can go over your story with an attorney and make sure that you don't accidentally misspeak.
1 like@Stoney's Dead police don’t care if you’re innocent or not they just need someone to take the fall for an arrest or conviction so they can get promoted .
1 likeHe's not afraid of a night in jail - but I can only imagine the panic he was feeling, knowing he had to kick dope.
0 likes@Stoney's Dead bro your so wrong it’s kinda funny, he has been in there before he’s not entirely innocent because he’s a junkie so obviously he’s not going to talk as much
1 likeHE GUILTY AS HELL.HE WANTS TO GET OUT TO SCORE BUT HE AINT SQUIRRELY ENOUGH YET TO COP TO NUTTIN,ANOTHER 24 HOURS AND THAT DUDE ICED KENNEDY,EPSTEIN,TUPAC N BIGGIE
0 likesHe knew something bout the crime though lol changed when asked bout the gun but bravo Jeff 👏 well played sir
0 likes@Stoney's Dead and your ass would end up in jail thinking that you would out smart ppl trying to pin a crime on you. always shut up and ask for a lawyer, whether you're innocent or not. that's common sense.
0 likes@Stoney's Dead You owe us your right nut. He's a free man living his life right now and has a youtube channel. If he were guilty and they had evidence to back it up, he'd be in prison still. They got him on a much smaller charge, but was never officially connected with the armed robbery.
1 likeThat would be a great point until you put his background on top of it and then you can see that any information that could have helped would be against everything he’s ever done and his silence stems from the genuine hate for the police. Why make their job easier when you can play games all night
0 likesSo we should convict solely on him being honest about smack In happy to know that someone of your caliber will never be in any kind of power because let’s face it your not cut out for much more than being jealous of this (Jeff) guy in fact didn’t you bump wieners with him in pre school?
0 likesJelly
0 likesStoney’s dead and you know this from experience right?
0 likesHe wasn’t stupid. He read those cops like a book and stayed two moves ahead the entire way.
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You a glizzie gladiator? Doin some glizzie goblin?
17 likes@A J H PRODUCTIONS sure hope so ;D
8 likestwo moves by not talking...a smart person would have just told them everything so they can know hes not guilty
0 likes@Just Some Guy with a Moustache aa No nothing he say make them believe he is innocent or rather: they don't care about that, the just want him convicted no matter what.
13 likes@Thomas Berg He is probably a cop in undercover comment section profile.
0 likes@Just Some Guy with a Moustache aa yeah because when a suspect calls an attorney and ask advice the attorney always says to "tell them everything". Are you freaking kidding me?
0 likesWhile going through heroin withdrawal after a decade of using. Thats next level difficulty though
1 likeJeff - “Ok good cop”
6590 likesCop - “no, usually I’m the prick”
Jeff - “you look like a prick”
HAHAHA GOT EEEEM
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Thanks for the subtitles
29 likeswhere do you hear "ok"
15 likes@a random person lol he don't have to word for word it bae why don't you do spend the time to do that. we understood perfectly
19 likes@Silver Ya do have to go word for word if you quote it lol, that's kinda what a quote is
28 likesI would have made myself cry laughing if I said that lol
7 likes@davy1458 they aren't all pricks but there are def a lot of them
5 likes@CasonDaJoint Thanks, a n g e r y b o i !!
2 likesAt least the cop don't look like a junkie lolol
2 likesYue looik lahk a preeick
1 likeBurn
0 likesYou playing good cop**
0 likes@Silver it’s a quote, so yea, you do need to go word for word or else it’s no longer a quote.
4 likes@Pixelator I don't need to do shit. have you heard of paraphrasing? this is also YouTube not a college application
0 likes@Silver then don’t reply at all. I was giving reasoning there but it seems you don’t have reasoning in anything you do considering you replied and then got hostile when someone corrects you.
3 likesI like Jeff
0 likesJeff gives zero f*cks about these investigators
1 likelmao
0 likesIt seems like the only people who don't understand Jeff's rights are the cops who are reading them to him.
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I was a little surprised. He explicitly asked for a lawyer, shouldn't it end there?
193 likesthe supreme court ruled about 15 years ago that a defendant has to affirmatively invoke their right to remain silent. Just saying "I want a lawyer" might not be enough.
33 likes@Jonathan Kessler Do you have a reference for that ruling? I only found Davis v. U.S. (512 U.S. 453 (1994)) -- which doesn't fit your time frame -- but that case specifically referred to a defendant who said "Maybe I should talk to a lawyer." The court (IMHO reasonably) affirmed that this "was not a request for counsel."
86 likesHowever, it held in the introduction of the syllabus that "[if] the suspect invokes that right at any time, the police must immediately cease questioning him until an attorney is present. (Edwards v. Arizona, 451 U. S. 477, 484–485.) The Edwards rule serves the prophylactic purpose of preventing officers from badgering a suspect into waiving his previously asserted Miranda rights [...]".
But I don't know, maybe a subsequent ruling established a tighter definition of what it means to "invoke that right."
However, ignoring a guy (under the duress of onsetting withdrawal symptoms no less) repeating multiple times "I'm not talking to you" and "I want a lawyer" seems to me pretty much like the epitome of "badgering a suspect into waiving his previously asserted Miranda rights."
@John Redberg Berghuis v. Thompkins
4 likes@Jonathan Kessler Thanks. I don't think this applies here. It deals with the borderline philosophical question of whether remaining almost completely silent during hours of questioning already constitutes the act invoking the "right to remain silent" in and of itself. The suspect never said he wouldn't want to talk or wanted to request counsel.
54 likesI get that police want to push the boundaries as much as possible (we've seen countless times on this channel that, when done right, this can be extremely important). On the other hand, if the workaround for Miranda v. Arizona is to require increasingly specific language like "I hereby do declare to invoke my Fifth Amendment right to remain silent and shall not speak to you henceforth without having been granted my right to counsel according to the document I signed in the presence of officers X and Y and the Lord Almighty"... you know something is just wrong with the system.
@Screamin’ Dog CYA, dude. You can't assume that any cop you talk to is a good dude. There are tons of literal criminals wearing uniforms, man. "Protect and serve" is just a motto, they protect the status quo, and serve the government.
32 likes@John Redberg The system is pretty clear. You have to invoke your right to remain silent to well, invoke it. Simply remaining silent isn't enough. Any lawyer worth a shit will tell you the same thing. If you say "I want to remain silent" it removes any ambiguity. After that the questioning has to stop and anything else gleaned from it is no longer admissible.
1 like@Louie Berg No, that's a common misconception. They can still question you, but it might not be admissible in court.
1 like@John Redberg , you are correct, it is amazing how people can read something and twist a crazy meaning out of it. The court saying you must affirm, simply means say it out loud once. It does not mean that you must say it over and over until an officer decides you mean it.
7 likes@Screamin’ Dog unicorns exist too
0 likesThe police aren't exactly well known for following their own rules
3 likesExactly 🤣🤣🤣
0 likesThey still get the question you, all with the purpose of accidentally revealing something that they can still use against you in court
0 likesThey didn’t infringe on his rights. He has the right to remain silent and they have the right to continue asking questions wether he answers them or not
0 likes@Dick Sherman Depending on the way they question him and for how long it can border on psychological torture though. Especially when the guy is already suffering withdrawal he might end up saying anything to get out of the situation, truth or not.
0 likesI'd love to see a time code when he asked for a lawyer. Saying "I don't want to talk" or "I should get a lawyer", is not gonna cut it.
0 likes@Jonathan Kessler that’s some tricky stuff
0 likes@Louie Berg no, you request a lawyer but they can still question you without one. The caviat is that you need to start the interaction about the case.
0 likesYep just ask Stoney’s dead
0 likesThis is why Jeff is a genius. You don't talk to the police---ever. You have the right to remain silent. Their job is to elicit evidence from you. You never have anything to gain by talking to them.
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Just say the word lawyer over and over again and invest in a good lawyer
94 likesAmen
2 likesDepends on what they offer. You can get them to have a DA plea bargain signed. Sometimes that's the best deal.
13 likes@justin ethridge maybe but Jeff knew they didn't have anything. It was only a matter of time before they let him go.
37 likesSo. This is strange. Occasionally, I get these weird glitches in YouTube comments. Scrolling down, I see your comment as "The left gets censored too... (etc) Pretty sure it's from a JP vid with London real guy, Rose. I was just there and fairly sure I saw your comment. When I click to "Replies" it changes to "This is why Jeff is a genius. (etc)" Click back to main comments: "The left gets etc" Replies: "Jeff" Comments: "The left etc". YouTube is broken. Free speech is almost murdered. Now, I'm a life long left leaning liberal type, and I hated Trump from the start. Still appalled by him, but, I've been watching China and the rapid advance of the elite globalist agenda for a NWO ('Fraid so!), I've lost my faith in the left, never had any in the right, but never dreamed that China really was bankrolled by the long term social engineers that mold our policies and initiatives, through prestigious endowments and Think tanks and so on. You must have seen those videos of news stations all over the US giving identical bulletins, and the censorship of alternative voices that's reached an absurd level now. The left is fake.. just as the right are. But it's the left who are giving the appearance of shutting down Trump, and fanning the flames of racial disparity, not to mention the virus. Nothing is real. I have no sympathy for Trump, but they are censoring the right in a blatantly obvious way. Yes, I'm a conspiracy theorist. We are being prepared for a one world government with the UN dominated by China and the same old multinational corporate arseholes (I'm a New Zealander), pushing a technocratic "Socialist" Authoritarian surveillance control grid. Check out Agenda 21, and Rosa Koire's book "Behind the green mask" readings are on YouTube. I actually wouldn't be surprised if this Pandemic was planned as a ruse for the economic reset and strategies the globalist agenda have openly been pushing for decades. Corbett report is a good place to find some well researched info, you can verify for yourself. Weird about the comments getting mixed up though, happens to me a lot...
19 likes@Chuffpup Rosa knows what's up and the Google construct is real. It's time we stop drawing lines in the sand over political choices of Right vs Left. We're ALL going to be slaves together if we don't unite...like yesterday! I'm for freedom, period.
15 likesYou are right John. I learned this the hard way in my early 20s.
1 likewell you could possibly have something to gain if you are actually innocent. it could clear things up with you and they’d leave you alone if you talked with them. but i do get your point
0 likesMusic IS Lyfe yeah i after most of the time. but if you literally had nothing to do with it you could explain yourself and they’d let you go. my point is it COULD help to talk to them if you are truly innocent
3 likesMany lawyers say EVEN IF YOU ARE INNOCENT DON'T SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE COPS WILL TWIST YOUR WORDS. Say "I want a lawyer" and nothing else.
22 likesDoesn't make him a genius. Just not an idiot.
2 likes@Leilababy89 I'm aware of him and watched a vid just a few days ago. He's better than most, but still needs to be filtered to remove certain biases. My fave is James Corbett of the Corbett report. Here's the deal: You watch Corbett, I'll watch Glen.
0 likes@Like A God preach brother lol
1 likeEver.
0 likes@Lucas334 your comment about being innocent and explaining yourself is wrong. In America, you're guilty until proven innocent. If you are accused of something they say oh you get a one time deal otherwise if you fight it you're looking at a felony if you lose. Do you know what that's like in real life? Never talk to the police. It'll never benefit you.
11 likes@Lucas334 that's naive. They're looking to pin a conviction on someone. They try to prove you're guilty, not innocent. They're NOT your friends. Say the five magic words ("I have nothing to say") and get a lawyer ASAP. Let him do the talking for you. Anything else and you're asking to get railroaded.
13 likes@Like A God thanks for the update Captain Obvious.
0 likesExersize youre right to silence and where the hell is the soliciter he asked for
3 likes@Jimmy Wells 😂😂😂😂
1 likewait what if there is a shooting and a cop needs to know where the criminal is?
0 likesPeople will never understand this
0 likesJust don't do illegal things and you wont have to be put into this position
3 likesHow about type any 3 or 4 digit number u want to into google. The number plus covid and hit search.
0 likes@Smileyrie James this is elite conversation skills, inpecabil social skills literally no self consciousness threw out the whole interview even tho his life is on the line. he never contradicted him self! bro he broke that cop down to decimals..he was talking to the cop like the cop was his son or nephew..he completely took over the conversation like a man didnt even leave room for the cop to debate..
5 likes@Smileyrie James my father taught me to never cop out to anything and dont ever leave space for them to pin you on ANYTHING..meaning =always ask for a LAWYER ! ..
1 likeThanks, Jeff!
0 likes@justin ethridge You get your lawyer to work on that for you.
0 likesDon't every talk to the police without your legal council present. ever
@Lucas334 No.. even if you are innocent, you should keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.
4 likesThere are plenty of innocent people jailed because they talked and the cops twisted their words.
@Hooligan "Just don't do illegal things, and you won't be placed in this position" It isn't always that simple, and sometimes it's the cops breaking laws. It's just possible, old Jeff is innocent. I know... he's a junky, deserves anything that happens... Really? Is that really true? Who knows? All I know, is for all the cops who are decent, upstanding guys, there are a few, who are bad, and of all the junkies who have lost any moral compass, there are many who are just ordinary people with an addiction, surrounded by scumbags taking advantage of them, and hating them for it.
1 like911s73targa that’s just not true dude. not all cops are out to jail everyone they talk to. lawyers can be a waste of money. but i’m not saying for all cases. yes for some it would be smart to get a lawyer but what i’m saying is sometimes you can clear things up if you just tell the truth
0 likes@Chuffpup You've made it onto someone's list would be my guess. If a local 16yo here can hack and put into disarray the online educational system due to Covid, I'm sure a small group could pull off much bigger, or more subtly, disturbances.
3 likesI understand your passion but..maybe just take a break from online stuff so much. I had a client who once told me about gang stalking or something like that...looked into it a bit and I couldn't even objectively begin to help this guy. Either he was misdiagnosed and prescribed suitable meds or he simply crossed the wrong persons path. I'll never know..
His story was a crazy rabbit hole of coincidences and/or paranoia.
It happens evidently and was sad to hear.
Do what ya feel you must honestly...I'm just...I guess off nothing else..trying to convey that fucked up things happen and you're not alone? I don't know...I'm sure my thoughts are only making it worse.
Sorry.. Would delete, but already taken the time to text this so just posting anyways*
Best of luck to you though!
Doesn't take brains to shut up. It takes brains not to try heroin. Not a genius....AT ALL.
0 likes@Bee Bee Agreed. Genius by no stretch of the means. Dudes been through the system and basically just knows to not incriminate himself...or basically don't tell cops shit, accept gifts and be cordial, but you're ultimately their prisoner at this point so just buy your time and wait for legal representation.
0 likesJunkies aren't dumb...well some* just alot of poor life choices
@DV8N1 I'm feeling like there are so many lists to be on right now, it isn't gonna make much difference, but I appreciate and understand your opinion. My YouTube presence is very sporadic lately, preferring to hang out on BitChute for the diverse and somewhat alternative content. It's kind of strange negotiating the Neo nazis and Alex Jones's over there, but all the stuff that gets kicked off YouTube ends up in those places, including some actual information and dare I say, free speech. I really think the Chinese are being groomed by the elite (yes, they actually call themselves that) to lead a completely UN mandated technocratic system of centrally controlled smart cities and micro managed inhabited zones (agenda 21). Bush senior's "New world order" led by the phony communist Chinese! This statistically dubious P(L)andemic and economic "reset" conveniently tie in with media engineered "race wars" to finish America off . We're all on a scary list, or soon will be. Sooner than you may think. But I suspect you know that. Sorry about the "quotation marks" and obvious ranting, but this is it, the actual war for our future, and I for one just don't buy this Corona lockstep mass hallucination. I'd rather have the flu, and freedom to be a human being with dignity and rights, even if I die. Cheers.
0 likes@Chuffpup Thank you for not strictly interpreting my comment as some shadow masquerade or whatever! Just trying to be genuine...I saw the anguish and paranoia from my aforementioned client..and I just felt stuck...regardless of what was said, nothing could be believed sort of feeling.. It sucked.
1 likeAnyways...you seem Extremely smart. I wish you the best of wishes in navigating these..well, mirky waters.
Wish I could learn or fully perceive what all you're saying, but sadly I just don't have the time, finances, or prowess to invest in learning more.....
Wish you well!
Not sure why I'm repeating it..but years ago an acquaintance asked:
"What is a true truth?"
My response...a false falsehood.
.....My thoughts, our truths in life come to us as deemed necessary, and not through will alone.
Unless you’re innocent of course.
0 likes@Lucas334 I am a lawyer. Trust me, don't talk to the cops.
3 likes@Average Alien Or, perhaps, don't break the law?
1 likeLawyer only
0 likes@Henrique Even if you didnt break the law, you might accidentally talk your way into a conviction
0 likesHe might've kept talking about stuff with them to keep his mind off of withdrawal.
1 likeHow about don't break the law to begin with
0 likes@Rogue849 That's a good option, but if you do, be quiet!!
0 likes@Leilababy89 hehehe Glen Beck... Hehehe
0 likesThis is true. A family member of mine is a cop. This is what I have been told from the inside
0 likesYeah this guy is a real fucking genius. Commit crimes and not manning up to it. Real Einstein over here just like you.
0 likes@Lucas334 Their job is not to find you innocent their job is to convict you, it says "will be used AGAINST YOU" not "for you" or "may help you in a court of law". They can not use your words to help you, and they wouldnt if they could. They are not there to help you they are not your friend. Jeff did the smartest thing because there is no way talking to the cops helps you in anyway. There has never been a single person who has TALKED their way out of going to jail, innocent or guilty.
2 likes@Lucas334 hahahah. No. If I were innocent, that is even more reason to not speak!
0 likesJeff is the master of interrogations. The one detective trying being soft to get Jeff to open up “Jeff if you have something to say now is your time to talk” Jeff dashes that with the point of the finger at the detective and then tries to reclaim the upper hand by calling the officer out on his game “you playing good cop” the detective then tries to assert the top dog in the conversation “no, I’m usually the prick” Jeff then finally stops the whole game with only a few words “you look like a prick” instant domination. Jeff played these detectives like a fittle.
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It's fiddle, the instrument, but yes. Lol
133 likesThese mainpulative so called "good cops" have nothing against Jeff
89 likesit's spelt fiddle
3 likesPlayed like a damn fiddle
5 likes@Amanda Wilson Oh sorry fittle
12 likesA fiddle is another word for a violin. Bam, now that you know that, the idiom actually makes sense to you.
7 likes@a h fittle
0 likes@Mark Johnson fuckin Mark Johnson
50 likesWell he's lucky he's not in certain places they will throw you in jail/prison for a resaon/non reason.
0 likesPlayed you like a griddle
4 likes@Grargle Jobber I thought a fiddle was a little different from a violin, thank you for this news to me
2 likes@Mark Johnson I think the guy was doing a "piss take", not actually thinking the dude was a master
4 likes16-8-40 how is it minimum 10 years I swear it's 5-life sentence but yeah for him 15
2 likesHE PLAYED THEM LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!
1 like@a h spelled
1 like@Amanda Wilson fittle
1 like@Mark Johnson Johnson moment
0 likesNothing like a thorough spelling lesson to take the mind off the subject matter....if we know the meaning, does it matter how someone spelled it? We decide which is right and which is wrong...we decide if it's just an illusion or reality. Don't try to adjust your horozontal hold or your vertical hold because we can roll the image anytime we decide and you have no control anyhow.
2 likesA friend of mine is similar to Jeff. My friend’s parents weren’t able to look after him so he grew up in a children’s home. The home didn’t give them the money they were supposed to for clothes and other necessities. So he had to steal and commit other crimes. So my friend has grown up defending himself to get out of trouble in interviews. The person interviewing has learnt how to interview in college, no match.
2 likesRelax kid... it’s not a movie
0 likesI hate to say this but he kinds smart tbh
1 likedid you just do a metal gear reference?
0 likes@A Day I found it humorous that the person that pointed out the other fellows mistake couldn't spell either. Kind of the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? If I offended you...well...you're just easily offended.
1 likeofficer: “you have the right to remain silent”
1681 likesjeff: remains silent
officer: Listen here you little shit
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I SAID, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMIAN SILENT!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND?!
54 likessilence
WHY WONT YOU ANSWER?!
The way you said that 😂
8 likesWhy did i read that as with "Ninja's" voice
1 likeI feel like Bale has the right to remain silent
0 likes@FunnySweet Shay31 said what? This is a comment 😂😂 y’all aren’t talking
0 likesI gotta give the man some respect for being dope sick and being able to lip off the cops like that. Last time I was dope sick couldn’t even think straight loool
0 likes"How long have you been doing heroin?"
0 likes"Long time, buddy. Long time."
That shit was sad, man.
Jeff is 6'5??? Dude is caught up in the wrong court system.
1 like"how bout that butterfinger you promised?" might be the best sentence in a interrogation I've ever seen
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i laughed so hard.
0 likesYoooo I spat out my drink when he said " Jeff got cleaned and started to work for Coca-Cola marketing team". Man was blessed by that coke can.
0 likes0:48 jeff demonstrates his knowlegde of his rights by not responding to the officers question
0 likes(You have the right to remain silent)
"This is Jeff. Jeff is a heroin addict." Be like Jeff
1 likeWas not expecting a Bad Santa reference.
0 likesI ask my friends if they want some sandwiches every week 😂
Cola shares have gone through the roof since this interview.
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Fancy seeing you here lol
12 likesHow tf you have 360k subs?
4 likes@Asakura Yoh he makes videos about armored vehicles
9 likesUnderrated comment
3 likesNot since they have been pushing Critical Race Theory
11 likes@Raymond Lumsden tf that gotta do with this?
4 likes@I like turtles Coke is racist
8 likes@RC Pie ohhh coke pushes critical race theory?
4 likesJeff: Playing good cop
3 likesCop: Nah, I'm usually the prick
Jeff: You look like a prick
CR7
4 likes@Vortex24 only consume food that your ancestors consumed not coke not Frosties not mentos or starburst every “food” I’ve listed wasn’t around 150 years ago meaning it isn’t food “if nature didn’t make it don’t take it”
2 likesPepsi is pushing social contract theory these days, I'm more of a koka kola man m'uh'self
1 like7777
0 likesRonaldo entered the chat
11 likes@Incognito :)
2 likesNot anymore
1 likeRonaldo yeeted 4 billion with the bottles!
4 likes@damn i can't believe that epic soccer man epicly pwned coke by removing a small portion of their YEARLY revenue
2 likes@Zyzarda Crits and vased
0 likessee them now
0 likes@Vortex24 i was searching for that comment
0 likesI doubt it you sound like lil nas x
0 likes@Raymond Lumsden it's just so funny how you guys never have any more words than the 5-10 word sentences that Faux News gives you. Bet you couldn't define what you're talking about if it was worth a million dollars.
0 likesAnd then Ronaldo happened
0 likes@Boeing 7x7 Jeff > Ronaldo
0 likesYou shouldn't be allowed to pressure a suspect while they are going through withdrawals. Most will say anything and its a dirty tactic.
0 likesAfter being released for 12 hours in that room and only having cans of Coke and not having butterfinger they promised, he realized rather than to rob and go to jail better to be employed in Coca-Cola company and get free coke every Christmas.. 🤣
0 likeshow the fuck can they keep interrogating this guy after he asks for a laywer???
2 likes”you’ve handcuffed me” said the officer to the handcuffed man
1 likeA person not guilty is neither, a villain, nor an antihero. Just a person not guilty.
1 likei hope hes doing well
0 likesDon't talk to the Police until you talk to your lawyer.
0 likesJeff a straight G, don’t talk to pigs, and if ya do give em bare minimum info.
0 likesIt should be illegal to interrogate a person in withdrawal. That being said, Jeff is a genius lol
0 likesThat’s ‘thanks for the coke’ made me so happy haha
0 likesIf people wanna see more to Jeff he has his own youtube channel called "The legend of Jeff"
0 likesThe cop using the phrase, "you've handcuffed me" to a man literally in handcuffs
0 likesDude : Come to the room just for the cola
0 likesAlso him : Im gonna work at cola
Smart man knows if they insist on questioning you that means THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE!!
0 likesGreat jeff your abiding to rules that the detective had read u have the right to remain silent which he did in the beginning
0 likesLMAO this was the most fun one yet
1 likeI love when he asked how drunk Jeff was and he said “no I was actually pretty sober” in a surprised voice
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That's actually pretty typical of life long substance abusers, I've replied that a few times myself
48 likesU know u gotta quit when being sober starts being the surprising thing in a story
6 likesJeff is who I want to be when I grow up
0 likeslol, love u Jeff!, I hope you have gotten help with your addiction.
0 likesI'm sorry that I'm not talking about the case, but:
0 likesWhy has JCS been gone for a whole year? It's quite sad and I hope he comes back
The only thing that would make him more legendary is if he said "I know what you're up to, I watch JCS".. then looks at the camera and throws duces 😆
0 likesWe need an update on Jeff's life.
0 likesI will name my first born Jeff even if it’s a girl.
2 likesJeff is truly a Coke a Cola Legend !
1 likeHe was just being honest, why detain an innocent man in the first place?
0 likesBig up my man jeff i love him
0 likesWow. I did not expect to like this guy as much as I did
1 likeJeff- "No"
1 likeofficer- "Huh?"
Jeff- "Yeah."
I would like to watch the unedited full version of this interrogation
0 likes0:50 - hey he has the right to remain silent you just told him that
5 likes“That doesn’t mean dick”
0 likesBest line ever
i love how he works for coke after 😭 it’s so funny
0 likes9:27 - 5 hours later - they again speak to him and it seems like he still has not spoken with a lawyer. Or am i wrong?
0 likesLmao “thanks for the coke” caught me off guard
0 likesI knew it all along. He only agreed to talk so he could get free Coke. He got his Coke and didn’t give the detectives anything. Lmao.
1 likeFrom ONE to ANOTHER I hope that JEFF REALLY did get HIS OWN LIFE CLEAN and on the straight and narrow 💯 percent 👍😴👍
0 likesStill months later I love the “wam bam thank ya for the coke now put me back in my cell”
0 likesJeff: “ You look like a prick”
8192 likesPauses
This, is Jeff.
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i loved that part- it was like from a movie introducing characters lmaoo
261 likesTarantinoesque
66 likesI wanted to leave a like, but you have 420 likes atm, so......
26 likes😂😂😂
3 likesHonestly wouldn't be surprised if his last name was Winger x'D
7 likes@shamelessFNGRL exactly what I thought of!
0 likes😂😂😂😂
0 likes😂😂
0 likes👓
0 likesThat's exactly what happened.
1 likeHis name Jeff
3 likes@G&S Gaming Bro, that’s as funny as his comment.
0 likes"You may be wondering why he's in that situation"
2 likesOfficer: “I’m actually more of prick”
0 likesJeff: “😤you look like a prick”
Pauses *
Saw this comment 1 sec before it happened lool
1 like✨Jeff is a Heroin addict✨
1 likeLiterally read it as it happened😂
3 likesBest intro ever.haha
0 likes“I know your wondering how I got in this situation, well it all started a week ago”
2 likesbest bloody intro ever
1 likelol. that part killed me.
0 likesJeff: Are you the good cop?
0 likesOfficer: I'm usually the prick.
Jeff: You look like a prick
officer: 👁👄👁
"Wham bham put me back in the cell and thanks for the coke"
1 likeMan knows his routines
Jeff rocks! I wonder if he's seen this.
0 likesBad fortune to wind up at the station to start with. Half of the interrogations you see on YT feature those who come in voluntarily, never having known that no matter what they say—the case will be built around it
0 likesThis cop is outclassed. He's using standard lines with someone who's been there, who's relatively smart, and has discipline.
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What most people fail to see about addicts is that they are actually most of the time very intelligent. A lot of the time and of course not all of the time , we tend to analyze the world around us constantly without relief. My analytical mind never shuts off and because of that though unconsciously to me at the time I was seeking out ways to bring some peace to my mind and body. Even from a young age I will try and distract myself with video games or hobbies of all varieties. I am an addict and I’m in recovery and I can tell you that all of the people that I’m around that are in recovery are actually VERY intelligent people. they have a high level of functioning, a strong grasp of how society works and their place in it, how to manipulate situations and/or people and how to achieve outcomes in different situations etc. Just got into some funky things along the way to finding some sort of peace and relief and couldn’t find a way out before it was too late. Before they could use that willpower. Willpower disappears once you cross over a certain line in addiction. I don’t expect everyone to understand this but if you have an addict or an alcoholic in your family, I highly suggest you read the AA big book where you will find everything you need to know about the disease of addiction.
196 likes@NFTbandit i can agree that addicts are more creative, but im not sure about IQ. also, it's way more easy to get in contact with smartest junkies on the hood, then getting in contact with smartest non-junkies in the hood - hope you gonna find more of those now, so you can tell us the difference soon. cheers
28 likes@NFTbandit you're absolutely right, a lot of studies showed that intelligent people are more likely to get addicted to something either alcohol, drugs or even work as a coping mechanism for their understanding of the world, people should have never gotten that smart and it's an anomaly which creates a sense of loneliness to smart people
51 likes@NFTbandit So, you're saying that there is a correlation between addiction and intelligence. That would make an interesting study.
13 likes@NFTbandit I’d argue that a lot of people turn to addiction BECAUSE they’re smart and understand the harsh realities of the world that less intelligent people choose to ignore. For example, it’s easier to believe a someone in the sky giving meaning to your life than realize that you cease to exist after death.
36 likesI think your comment sums it up the best.
3 likesHilarious comments, yeah bro drug addicts sure are smart, that's why they would start using dangerous substances they know are dangerous, right?
12 likes@Anthoney Degroat cope harder
6 likes@IceBear310 case in point.
23 likes@DANI SANCHES i think your misunderstanding the term smart in this context. Galileu was smart but did he understand the world? I think you are confusing smarts to actually testable intelligence (which by the way, there are still plenty of smart ppl who turn to drugs but), when we are using “smarts” as understanding the world as a whole. Most of the time, addicts turn to drugs because they know the tricks of the world and often times understand situations and problems a lot better than the average person. I think we are saying that “smart” people (people who understand the deeper meanings) do turn to drugs. As for testable intelligence, plenty of lawyers and judges do drugs because of the same reason. Even scientists from long ago participated in drug activity. So it’s not a reach suggesting that addicts are actually intelligent people, but it’s muddled by often mind altering drugs which leave them out of sorts.
8 likes@IceBear310 they’re not disciplined either. Hence the addiction
8 likes@Kabob Hope there are actually studies that link intelligence and addiction. To sum it up what it basically comes down to is people that can function at a higher level tend to get overwhelmed easier And tend to seek out distractions like working out or drinking or getting into hobbies very heavily almost obsessively. Alcohol and drugs is a really efficient way to shut those thoughts down but comes with very terrible side effects.
8 likes@Sophia Troanska yeah absolutely. I’ve found that in myself for sure. I get overwhelmed easily because I see and feel so much around me that it was like I found a superpower when I found drugs because it shut down my mind.
3 likes@IceBear310 the ignorance that you just spewed is glaring. Knowing a potential danger of something doesn’t make you any more or any less smart. I knew how dangerous drugs could be but I had no idea I would become addicted to them. Not everybody who does drugs is an addict. It turned my racing mind and my anxiety off and because of that I used it when I felt like that but before I knew it my body was physically dependent on it and then I had to take it to prevent myself from going into withdrawal which is the vicious cycle. I’m absolutely not stupid and it got me. you need to educate yourself more on the subject. Addiction is a Disease. Not a lack of willpower or intelligence.
12 likes@ronhenny yes! Your explanation is perfect. I consider myself to be highly empathic and have a very thorough understanding of human relations, analyzing situations, determining outcomes etc. and my mind gets very overwhelmed by these nuances of life. Because of that unconsciously at the time I sought out something that would dampen my racing mind so I could find some peace. Had nothing to do with a poorly thought out decision, rather a desperate attempt to cope.
5 likes@NFTbandit many words when you could've just said you're not smart
1 like@NFTbandit I'm not sure if I only ready half your original comment previously, or if you edited it, but everything you wrote, I agree with and feel as well. I've been told I analyze things to death. Even my therapist said that I could drive my mind to psychological insanity if I chose to. I've been distracting from a young age. I started getting paralyzing fear of death in third grade. People feel like I'm talking down to them, when really, I just voice the way my thoughts are formed. Apparently it comes off as pompous. Distractions included books. Then television. The phone. Food addiction. That one became a real problem. I casually fluctuate 25 lbs up and down like it's nothng.
2 likes@NFTbandit Oh my God, sometimes I get genuinely depressed when I see people as dim as the Ice Bear guy exist. You can see the difference in intelligence with your simple eloquence in expression vs his outright "I'm better than everyone" attitude.
10 likes@IceBear310 Sounds like you need a hug 😘
2 likes@NFTbandit from a drug addict? go hug a therapist maybe
4 likesyes. He's a very good example of a relatively smart person who's disciplined. Great observation. Splendid.
4 likes@M Pulverman No. It takes experience (or learning) to know talking will never help you. Knowledge doesnt equal intelligence. He literally says thats how he knows it himself lmao.
2 likes@M Pulverman Yes, so youre saying he's smart because he has the same ability as a 6 year old? He remembered. Must be a genius.
1 like@M Pulverman yeah the original comment
1 like@M Pulverman nope. i just commented and you replied to me. go see my first comment. Do you see your username there?
2 likes@IceBear310 you dont really understand very much about addiction, do you
1 like@Gwen clearly you dont either
1 like@NFTbandit another addict in recovery here...i grew up with a father who called me stupid as a habit. when he didn't call me that he was generally a dude who was emotionally abusive or "grangry" (grumpy and/or angry).
0 likesi thought all of my failures with addiction and life stemmed from the stupid things i was doing.
i also assumed that the people who never "got me" (including my family) couldn't understand me because i was dumb.
after getting sober i got a battery of IQ tests. it turns out that i am one standard deviation above the normal IQ...i still do stupid things but it's because i am human.
I wouldn't use discipline in relation to a drug addict
2 likes@NFTbandit my uncle died last year of addiction
0 likesAddiction is not a disease. If you SAY you are "in recovery," but are not using, you are likely recovered. That permanent addict BS and the "disease" BS is from the Oxford Moral Rearmament movement, religious revivalism that was repackaged as the 12 steps when they replaced "depravity" with "drunkenness" (later "addiction") and kept the religious BS the same. (why do you think you have to turn to a higher power in that stupid stupid model.)
2 likesKeep believing it and I promise you will relapse because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. believe that you actually have agency and stopped because of what you have done with your life, and know you won't go back to it because it's better now, and you have a much better chance of making it.
There's plenty of studies that demonstrate you are more likely to relapse if you have had AA/NA than if you haven't.
AND: Most people who quit addictions quit on their own. That's another thing the ridiculous recovery industry will never tell you.
I am addicted by myself (pain killers) and I can say that addiction has nothing to do with intelligence. I know what I am doing, I know why I am doing it (I am afraid of myself and my emotions, I’m taking cover), I know how I can get out. But I don’t. This is not dumb, this is called emotions. People deal with emotions differently, addicts just don’t do That. we hide, we are afraid of this society, our own reality and the steps it takes to find a solution. This is sad, I have to admit that, but it’s not dumb. It’s just sad.
2 likes@Magenta thank you very much for your understanding. Actually I started therapy a month ago and I was sober for 3 weeks until Christmas, then I got bad cravings and did it again, until today. I am working on this and I’m realizing that there will be no time again in my life that it will be easier to stop than right now. Everyday would make it harder, just like you said
1 like@Magenta and yes I’ve Heard that a lot of times and I also understood it, but this shit makes you fuck up your life under total consciousness. I think that is the saddest part for most addicts. Your are completely aware of what the hell happens and this is leading to Self hate. And I’m talking so much self hate that it hurts physically, I’ve been there. People like you, strangers who care, can change a whole life. It’s not that much but out there are people who got it way worse than me. People with nobody left, sleeping on the streets. If words like that can cheer my heart up, I can’t imagine how impactful they have to be on someone on completely rock bottom. Please always treat addicts for what they are, Ill and sick people.
0 likesActually I will update here a little bit in a few weeks. It motivates me because I’ve come this way. I was way worse, on fentanyl and shit having the baddest withdrawals in my life and I’m not going back for nothing. I handeld scarier shit in my life. But this teached me so much. When I was younger I thought of addicts like losers, now I understand what that is. We all somewhere got it, never let it come to drugs. Feelings is the hottest fire you could ever play with.
@IceBear310 bro you got the wrong conclusion. They said people with higher intelligence are more likely to get an addiction. That doesn't mean all addicts are intelligent, because that statement doesn't state that dumb people can't be become an addict.
1 likeAlso, being aware of the effects doesn't mean you will always avoid it. People do drugs knowing the consequences anyway especially if they are in a turbulent time of their lives. So don't look down on them for being worst off than you, ok?
@Dan Gander It's sad when you see a "recovered" addict and they're so brainwashed into this bullshit that they are still ADDICTED to it. They mention how they're clean every chance they get and always say "as a junkie" etc and fucking worst of all say things like "Ive been clean for 4 years 6months 3 days and 14 hours" things like that showing that their addiction has become their entire life and personality, even if they aren't using the drug anymore.
0 likes@tamo 96 Keep on trying bro as long as you keep trying one day you're gonna wake up and not even think about the craving to do said addiction again. You have to rebuild the pathways in your brain. Imagine it like a river. That river is water, flowing, over time. It erodes away a path for itself and the rest of the water follows the path of least resistance. In this metaphor, you would need to repeatedly divert the water over time to carve out a "new" path. I hope that makes sense.
0 likes@toast How the hell are you talking about how somebody should get over thoughts of cravings while also in the same section call somebody a junkie? You clearly have so many demons you can’t even count them anymore.
0 likes@NFTbandit ill alaborate for uoi tldr addicts are street smart like no other
0 likesNot a fan of cops per se but this one was pretty nice
0 likes@Kabob Hope It is ego that demands drugs, the rock scene confirms this.
0 likesBro hes a heroin addict constantly ran thru the system. I would consider him that smart or disciplined.
0 likes@NFTbandit sorry, take responsibility for your actions . Life is tough, wearing your addiction on your sleeve is a crutch a way of justifying illegal activities. You leading a productive life is the way of showing you mean business
0 likes@IceBear310 i would use the word "experiment with" instead of use.
0 likes@BananaSplit What you're referencing is termed "all or nothing" thinking. It often involves using absolute terms, such as "never" or "ever". This type of faulty thinking can also include an inability to see the alternatives in a situation or solutions to a problem.
0 likes@Anthoney Degroat it's really sad you think your comment makes any sense so let me ask you people that join the army or fly planes do you not think they know it's dangerous i'll let you ponder that question and have a good day lol.
0 likes@NFTbandit so intelligent that they cannot avoid addiction to the point where it ruins their life. Ha ha no. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure our when to mug someone for money. Nor does it take genius to wind up in jail over and over again. Intelligence is more than book smarts. It is also situational awareness and the management of ones person al journey. And this guy has zero of that, only good for a witty joke or come back which in the end, is honestly worthless besides social commentary.
1 like@Steve Broadsmith disciplined enough to keep shooting that shit up his veins without fail. or else his body will go into withdrawal and that's no fun. discipline can be used for good or bad purposes
0 likeshe's like the real life joker on the interrogation scene
0 likesHe actually got the case dismiss got clean and makes music and YT vids as a hobby
1 likeHe gave the right answers; I didn't do it, your not my friend, you only want a confession, give me a lawyer. ALWAYS ask for a lawyer especially when innocent.
0 likesI’d hang out with Jeff. Seems like a pretty chill guy. I also like Coke. The fizzy kind.
0 likes“You tell me what happened and I’ll tell your parole officer you helped me out.”
0 likesLol, yea if he snitches on himself.
I thought his entire strategy would be refusing to understand his rights lol
0 likesI would like to see him with an attorney.
0 likesEdit: Jeff's not in prison he has a YouTube channel The Legend of Jeff
0 likesI watched an interrogation of a former chief of police accused of murder. Let me tell you, Jeff is smarter than the law enforcer who's familiar with their own tactics.
Detective: “Do you understand the rights I’ve explained to you?”
5303 likesJeff: “No”
Detective: “Huh?”
Jeff: “Yeah 🙄😒”
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It was such a gentle "Yeah"
126 likes😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
11 likesI snorted so hard reading this comment 😂😂😂
24 likesI think Jeff got him on that. Because Jeff didn’t say yeah right after the question. Jeff said yeah after the detective said huh. So Jeff gave a no answer to the question and a yeah answer to the huh. So technically he didn’t admit to understanding the rights.
107 likesnessagonz3 it’s not even funny.
0 likesAccount damn bro didn’t know that u dictated what people could find funny in a youtube video
16 likes@northstar100 Jeff handled that like a pro!! He didn't slip one time...😂😂🤣🤣 and he got 2 cokes out of them! Go Jeff!! And almost a butterfinger..
28 likes@northstar100 a couple more minutes and he would have had that butterfinger!!!🤣🤣🎁🎁
10 likeshe sounded like "Klaus #4 in The umbrella academy"
2 likesIt’s Stuart from MadTv.
0 likes@Joybee 1002
0 likes😅🤣
@Joybee 1002
0 likes🤣😅
@Etang E
1 likeYes he also looks like him I think.
Jazzy Jazz I’m the 2100th like
1 likeAbsolutely! 😂 The epitome of coolness!!
3 likes@происходит сын yeah, it is. Bet your a howl at a party
0 likesAccount you're right, it's not... ITS HILARIOUS!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesI read this comment as I heard this in the video
0 likesI saw this as a good way to have the case thrown out. The defense could argue that he never understood the Miranda rights, granted they read them to him several times so maybe it wouldn’t work
0 likesi actually got off a charge of criminal damage to someone who was dating someone in my class who was 14 or 15 he was 20 i kicked his car when he dropped her off by are school and he actually got me arrested but because when he asked me if i understood my rights in interview i said yes first then no straight after and the officer missed it and carried on with the interview the case was thrown out so not that bad move really just should of said ye i mean no haha
0 likesLmao I've done this after being arrested, the police were furious that I wouldn't answer if I understand
0 likes@northstar100 does it work? I cant imagen that would work in a court
0 likes@eu mafia Listen...you sure that things happened that way? There are so many things wrong with that story, although I have no interest writing a lengthy explanation. But you don't need to be a detective to see some inconsistencies, but who knows could be wrong.
1 likeNot a big deal either way. Have a great day!
@GoogleLetsThisNameBeWayLongerThanItEverShouldBe @GoogleLetsThisNameBeWayLongerThanItEverShouldBe it did happen why would i say that no need for me to lie i was just trying to inform people if you say yes then no you can use that against them if they don't explain your rights properly ! hence why the officer is pushing it so hard like you say you don't care but took the time to respond i am not lying i promise you i was not trying to push my story only told why i was arrested so people didn't think i was arrested for something scum like burglary an attacked me so fort i would tell the story i swear down am not lying tell me were my story is a lie please? i was a child when interviewed why do you find this so hard to believe ? if i want to make you not believe me more i told the police this man was seeing a girl in my class and he was never arrested for it fact
1 like@eu mafia Fair enough bud. Judging by your written English, It's probably fair to assume you live somewhere outside the United States. Which is where a lot of my circumstantial suspicion was being based off.
1 likeIn the US people under the age of 17/18 get charged as a juvenile, thus when being questioned by detectives, requires their legal parents/guardian to sign with you when being read your rights. Also, the situation you described would most likely be a lower misdemeanor for property damage, especially at a high school. Meaning a Citation, which includes fines/reparations and the promise to appear in count on a set date. There also would be little to no need for an interrogation for a crime of that nature. Furthermore, if the case was thrown out on those grounds it would mean your case was heading to trial and you had a defense lawyer. He would need to bring up this evidence well into the judiciary process, which is what made me even more suspicious. There is also minimal supporting legislation for situations where 2 "teenagers" are in a consensual relationship, but is still a grey area and often left up to individual circumstances.
Also your story gave off suspicion from you describing (from my perspective anyways) you "White Knighting" some girl in your class you had a crush on, who was probably dating one of your upper classman. Which you presented as saving her from some terrible child predator just because he was 4 or 5 years older than her. And I could totally see someone in that situation daydreaming about saving her from "the evil older guy" like some kinda princess..... lol
All good though my guy. Sry for doubting your epic tale!
@GoogleLetsThisNameBeWayLongerThanItEverShouldBe so you speak my language then because am English not the most academic as you have pointed out and its the same here i think i cant remember if i had someone in the room with me am not 100% but i do no the laws similar here an they question you with a guardian here to when your under 18 but if am being honest i don't remember if one was there and i feel like i was not maybe that was another reason who knows i was only young
1 like@GoogleLetsThisNameBeWayLongerThanItEverShouldBe nah it wasn't like that only seen the end of of your big script then no i was not white knighting the girl i didn't get on with her either and she was not happy with us abusing her man obviously we use to shout nonce to him everyday i was no hero or was not trying to be but unlike you i seem to think a man dropping a year 10 no older than 15 off in a car when he is 20 is wrong in my eyes maybe not yours? you digging deep into my story bloody hell wish i never said it now getting accused of all kinds and you not from here but telling me i how uk police are you know any crime gets investigated especially when he'd making an insurance claiming all these damages i have no reason to lie and why would i it was not about my story! just what i said by mistake what got me off police interview people for criminal damage in this country i went to fuking court over it it only got threw out after first court appearance that error did not get found out till after the first court date but if you don't believe me i dont really care as i dont no who you are i have done my best to tell you what happened i no why your attacking me because you think i was acting like a hero when infact i was not doing it for the girl just to terrorise the man so no am no saint was 15 but think my morals were in the right place
0 likes@eu mafia No worries my friend. Sorry for giving you a hard time. I wasn't trying to be rude when I made an observation to your English typing. I genuinely thought maybe English was a second language for you, and that you were referring to a legal procedure I'm not familiar with. Not always the easiest to convey intent though typing online, and that includes me at times also. Wasn't questioning your "Academics" just your typing skill (bad typing doesn't mean your stupid) so no sweat.
0 likesHonestly I think a lot of my misinterpretation was attributed to the lack of punctuation in your first paragraph. Was a big run on sentence, so I had to stop a few times to read it again.
Just to clarify, so you are from the UK then is that what you were saying? That's what I was implying about living outside the US and different legal procedures which would make sense then.
Regardless, it's all good man. Really isn't a huge deal, wasn't my intention to ruin your day... Take care!
@GoogleLetsThisNameBeWayLongerThanItEverShouldBe no worries mate ye my typing skills and punctuation isn't my strong point i just type haha no worries all the best for the future
0 likesHe did the right thing and did not talk to the cops this dude IS a Legend!!!
0 likesThey say the interrogator who proved himself a prick while interrogating Jeff had taken voluntarily retirement
0 likeshe deserve to free i see him as a good guy actually , i wish the first legend is real
0 likesNever trust a Jeff. I speak from experience.
1 likeCop: No, normally I’m a prick.
9157 likesJeff: You look like a prick..
Legend.
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Legend yourself .....cuddle muffin......brilliant
30 likesThat is legendary 😂😂😂
12 likesAll while never looking up. Lmao
24 likesThis is what I was Looking For... Bravo👍😁👍
2 likesLmfao tbh
3 likesThis, is Jeff.
2 likes@Your husband is my boyfriend haha jokes on you i don’t have a husband so therefore you have no boyfriend
1 likeThis dude is a boss!
1 likeCopycat :)
2 likes🤣
1 likeThis moment is when Jeff establish his dominance in this conversation lmao
3 likesImagine what this man could’ve done if he never tried heroin.
0 likes8:40 sooo.. does the officer understand the rights he just read to the robber? Since he clearly said out loud he wanted a lawyer. But I dont see one.
0 likesJeff does foolish things but Jeff is no fool.
3 likesI didn’t know Bill Burr was a part time detective!
0 likesCop "Do you understand the rights I've explained to you?"
6258 likesJeff: "no."
Cop: "Huh?'
Jeff: "yeah."
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😂 loved that part
147 likesI caught that too 😂😂
57 likesthat is the best
16 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
14 likesYes. Noticable and awesome moment.
14 likes@Pam Ellwood how did he fuck up when they realised him 🤔
53 likes@Ace i think u meant released him
19 likes@Peter Puck
3 likesI don’t think he was playing with the cops mind. I think he was trying every possible answer out of desperation.
LOL RIGHT
1 likeYeah that would have been genious. "Do you understand your rights" answered with "no" followed by just silence
8 likeswhat's the deal with people simply repeating a quote from the video in the comments that ANYONE who watched OBVIOUSLY picked up on? They make it to the top comments every time, because a bunch of ogres are like "YEAH! I HEARD THAT TOO!" Woopti-fuckin-doo. And the poster feels important for acting like a parrot and getting all their praise/likes, but as a result actual interesting thoughts are pushed down the toilet, where nobody will read them. (Just like real life!)
6 likesNow, please, everyone tell me what I'm missing about the brilliance and relatability of it, and how that's so much better than encountering a different thought/take.
@Dan Gander i imagine a majority of us think this but don’t verbalize it; however, these things are an eventuality, as the internet is a complicated and diverse ecosystem. just remember that the people who aren’t liking those types of comments are similar in dogma to you, so think to yourself that you instead must simply make the observation and move on, for the exclamation of a given only serves those most involved in a solution :)
3 likes@Dan Gander take a chill pill buddy it's not that serious 😂 and actually sometimes people miss certain parts but again not that deep bruh
4 likes@Pam Ellwood I think honestly its just too uncomfortable to do that since they know you're lying. And we all have a sense of fairness. Like we'd concede 'yes I understand, but I'm not saying anything else'
0 likesBest
0 likesWell done Jeff.
0 likesMoral of the story: DONT TALK TO POLICE. They aren't your friend
0 likesThe cop to Jeff who is in handcuffs: "Now you've handcuffed me"
0 likesi believe this guy for one thing, they've arrersted him countless times before and never interrogated him this long before so that just kept playing in my mind why not arrest him jail him n be done with it. it makes sense
0 likesJeff: "Am I gonna get that coke or was that just a fairytale?"
2118 likesI laughed so hard I scared my cat out of the room.
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Not a single comment. Huh?
1 like@Name i guess it wasn’t copied and no one has anything to say ,just genuine shit my guy
6 likesLmfaoooo
1 likeWhat does it say about our criminal justice system that a drug addict is more aware of interrogation procedure than cold-blooded murderers?
0 likes"wham bam, thankyou for the coke, put me back in the cell"
0 likesthis is my motto, this is my creed
for whatever reason, i thought the beginning of this video had dubbed voices for jeff and the cop. the audio didn’t sound real to me lol
1 likeIf Jeff chose to be clean, he could be a comedian. People admire that 'into your face' honesty and I'm sure he has some stories to tell...
0 likesJeff is just one of those guys, can’t help but like him. He’s one of those guys that curses at you and you don’t get offended.
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I've known addicts like this and believe me, you know them long enough, you hate them and wish they were dead. That said, same to the cop.
38 likes@michelle I have addicts like this in my family, and I don't care.
13 likes@MarvNoGood I disagree. If I met a guy like that, I would tell him to STFU and GTFO. There's nothing likeable about him to me.
12 likes@Hoop Mooy It doesn't sound like you have much for empathy
21 likes@We Remotely Low I've been stolen from by addicts like this, and seen them ruin their families. Cops tend to be manipulative and untrustworthy, and so do people that have been addicted to heroin for 10 years. There's obvious exceptions but I don't see anything about this guy that stands out as being different. Also, I was having a particularly unempathetic day. I don't feel that the man being judging or hateful of himself or his situation as something that should yield more empathy from me. I'm sorry for my use of language not being understanding of other's emotional needs.
12 likesThat's why they explained the anti hero thing in the beginning 🌝
5 likes@Hoop Mooy but you gotta admit, it was kinda funny lol
3 likesPeople that steal to feed the habit have a problem be responsible or just don’t do it everyone hate a thief
3 likesGoddamn, I just hope that Jeff got his shit together and is now having a better life
1 like@Hoop Mooy
0 likesAgreed. I can't stand it.
I’m glad I’m not the only one. I like dude
0 likesInjustice is happening to Cameron in front of millions of people but no one stands by him How long do innocent young people suffer in prison? This won't make the world a better place. Prison won't be a fix. What is this torment that we see by the policeman, especially during the interrogation of the prisoner. Be kind. They are human beings like you. The world has become so frightening, condemning the innocent. I will pray for freedom for every prisoner around the world. Sacrifice him that damn judge and those unfair courts in Florida
0 likesJustice for cameron herrin🗽🙏🏻
that guy is a champ, reminds me of Big Lebowski
1 likeThe phrase “do you understand your rights?” Is a legal trap.
0 likesofficer: you have the rights to remain silent
0 likesJeff:
Christian Bale never disappoints with the commitment to his roles.
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This could be an audition tape for Mr bale. 😀
39 likeshahahahahaha!!!!
10 likesLol
6 likesYou wouldn't believe what he did to get ready for that role. He only ate one apple a day for a couple of months.
38 likesThat’s not Christian Bale
10 likesThought the same thing from the thumbnail
11 likesK It the post was meant to be facetious. Not to be taken seriously only highlighting how much he looks like Bale from the movie "The Machinist".
39 likesPaul BIT all he needs is to start screaming at the sound man!
3 likesI was sure someone had said it 😂
2 likes@K It Are you sure, I think I seen this on Christian Bales Instagram. He did a whole thing about this interview.
14 likes@James Tinsley oh! Thanks for the translation 😊
1 likeHow he endured not only the weight loss but the whole process of having his bones repeatedly broken and lengthened is truly admirable.
13 likesXD
1 like🤣
1 like@James Tinsley the Machinist* , just to correct you
3 likesMuhammed Agic slight spelling error. Thanks for pointing out, it has been corrected.
2 likesChristian Bale from the machinist .. audition tape
2 likesI agree with you but this is obviously James Franco.
3 likesFrickin classic line.
1 like😂 😂 😂
1 likeLol
1 likeLmao
1 like@K It whoooosh
4 likes@Bimmer Team 🤔
2 likesHaha noice 👌
2 likes@James Tinsley what do u expect from someone named K IT!? 🤣🤣🤣
2 likesHahaha!!!!
1 likePretty sure it's Joel Kinnaman from Suicide Squad.
1 likeI don’t remember this part in Batman 👀
1 likeDamn 😭
0 likesBest comment award goes to...
2 likesPeople actually think this was a role for Christian Bale. But that's a fairytale. He actually lost his shit after his starring role in American Psycho, got addicted to heroin, started robbing places, suffered an identity crisis, changed his name to Jeff, and here we are. Sad
4 likesI fucking can’t 😂 kudos
1 likei litterally watched that for first time today
0 likes😂🤣😂
0 likesBro ☠️😆
0 likesLol
0 likes😂
0 likesOofffff
0 likesI mistook him for Mathew McConaughey
0 likes@rahul singhal lol 🤣
0 likes@rahul singhal Matthew indeed turned into a pretty good method actor as well.
0 likes“You look like a prick” Emotional damage 💀
1 likeOnce he says “lawyer” ITS OVER
0 likes12:26 "how about that butterfinger you promised?" LMAO
0 likes"Wham bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell." 😆 priceless.
0 likes“Why are you shaking?”
6857 likes”bro im literally a junkie??”
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Antihero lol
68 likesHe's doing better now, he says. He has a YT channel.
133 likes@Jamie Judd me too pls
10 likes@Jamie Judd me three
5 likesY'all, his channel is in the pinned comment. But here it is regardless, https://youtube.com/c/SYRENGEMUSIC
62 likesI didn’t finish going off on my soapbox. Often times the social and legal consequences that addicts face, incarceration included, are much worse than the effects of the drugs themselves. Jails and prisons should all offer methadone, suboxone and other may drugs to inmates dependent on opiates but the fact is right now they aren’t. They don’t fucking care.
39 likesUs addicts in recovery have a saying, JID. Stands for Jails, Institutions, or Death. If you don’t get off the stuff those are the only places you can end up.
12 likesThis guy is pretty cool. But it surprises me how many people fawn over him just for that, while figuratively yelling for the most disproportionate punishment for others who rob, pulls guns on people etc.,
7 likesMe too
0 likes"Honesty and no bullshit attitude" he committed armed robbery and continued to deny it.. Not so honest.
2 likesI think he did
0 likes@Lisa Price They’re not supposed to care.
0 likesIf he's a junkie I assume there are times where he isn't so honest. Maybe not.. but yeah.
0 likesBut did he do it
4 likes@Lisa Price facts
0 likesLeave em be
0 likesThe fact that this dude who been doing drugs for over a decade knows more about not talking to police than every murderer is beyond me
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that actually makes a lot of sense. i assume he was on the streets for years and had to deal a lot with cops and the law, especially being a heroin addict. murderers often have no record of such things (example is chris watts, who was charged for the first time in his life). watts had a normal life until the moment he killed his family, and probably never thought about being investigated once, but jeff must have had already so many encounters that he is a true pro. probs to him.
262 likesWatch the Jodi arias interrogation lol
12 likesBecause he's not a murderer. Those people think they're smarter than everyone and get caught and don't know what to do. This guy has been around cops and in trouble and around people like himself that tell him nuances of what to do and what not to do for basically his whole life. He's a different breed than those lowlife people that murder because of their ego and think they're a step above everyone
67 likesPractice makes perfect.
1 likeIt’s simple… if your a murder the. Chances are you aren’t being run through the system constantly… it would likely be a a one and done thing or very minimal thing… now a heroin addiction of over a decade… well chances are they have been run through the gamut or the system chewed up and spit out, all because America’s “war on drugs”.. this is the same reason that on average people who have been convicted of a a severe drug crime can and usually will do more time than someone who abuses woman and children. Etc etc…sad but unfortunately true
14 likesCuz he’s been avoiding cops with his drugs😂 acting like drug users are dumb
3 likes@Grant Reinhart if anything I implied murderers are dumb lmao, it’s impressive he’s able to keep his story persistent even with all the different psychological tactics that they use lool
2 likesMaybe drugs don't make people as stupid as the roumers say they do...
3 likes@Meral I just saw an interview with a criminology guy from the UK. Their bigges expert on serial killers and those kind of psychos (Chris Watts, I count him with them). He said what they often had in common was no sense of humor, implying they where really, really socially stupid. He had never met a psychopath killer that was the charming handsome type, and he had interviewed them all. He said they where more really creepy. Many he said was very clingy and needy people..
1 likeMore than that many have never encountered the police, I believe it is more their mantal health making them look so stupid in police interrigations.. I at least cannot remember one of them seeming like a normal smart guy.
Assuming "drugs" makes one the opposite of clever says volumes about your ignorance
1 likeBelieve me people who are involved in drugs for a long time.... They can really know their stuff
1 liketo be fair this wasn't his first rodeo based off what he said in the video.
0 likesProbably because he's had a lot of experience with cops...
0 likesHe’s been in and out
1 like@Meral Very much this. There's also the fact that he knows he didn't do what they're accusing him off, so the lack of guilt and fear makes him much harder to manipulate.
0 likes@Meral Accurate assessment-- from someone with experience in the matter.
0 likesThough, I can't speak to the murdery stuff.
Alot of murderers do it for the attention because they think it'll make them famous. Which in a way it does. But addiction isnt for anyone else. It's you doing it because you want to do it.
3 likesThe types of disordered people that commit murder are the epitome of self centered. They love to feel powerful, important, love to deceive others, and love the sound of themselves talking. Nothing moves them more than their own sad stories. They get off on specialists picking them apart, asking them questions about why, how, what, where, when. Its time for their greatest performance. "I struggle, Im sad, my life is a nightmare, my childhood was bad, I committed a crime and now I feel important, smart, powerful". They can't stop themselves, not talking completely escapes their logic. Even if they know they shouldn't its still too exciting.
2 likesLOL most likely he picked up all that knowledge from being "inside".
1 likePractice, practice, practice
0 likesDrugs making you stupid is anti drug propaganda. Drugs only make you poor.
0 likesLessons learned. Most murderers don't have the number of police interactions as jeff
1 like@Tinmann very true I just found it amusing he was able to keep his story straight even through all the tactics they use on him haha
0 likesI feel like murderers are usually sociopathic or psychopathic and feel that they’re uniquely able to deceive or manipulate people because they’re able to do it in their own personal lives. It would take a lot of arrogance to think that you are entitled to kill another person to begin with
0 likesHe still spoke to much for my liking.
0 likesJeff is a quick witted, street smart guy despite being a junkie. A poor soul probably a result of his environment. It's so frustrating..
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How’s it frustrating you don’t even know this nigga🤣😂
18 likes@Rashad Avery.... because he's a quick witted, street smart guy despite being a junkie....
99 likes@Willow ok so any of what you mentioned twice was that supposed to keep him out of jail?
3 likes@Willow you sound upset Jeff in there an you can’t smoke with him 🤣😂😂
4 likes@Rashad Avery he is not in there he doing youtube videos and shit lol
23 likes@Peero N idc
0 likesResult of his choices
3 likes@Rashad Avery it's frustrating because of this human emotion called empathy, you can tell Jeff isn't an actual monster live most of the people who get interviewed and doesn't deserve the life he's living. Seeing anyone in a poor situation should make you feel bad if your a normal person
71 likeswell it's a result of his own choices. But all drugs should be legalised, so, his choices are fine, except for the robbery thing of course
2 likes@GuessImTj Na why would I feel bad for somebody I don’t even know lol plus he chose to do drugs I smoke weed an never once thought of doing hard drugs not once no matter what I’m going through
2 likes@Liam nope🤣😂💀
0 likes@Rashad Avery “why would I feel bad for somebody I don’t even know lol” - that’s a scary thing to hear. Are you a sociopath or something? You seem to lack empathy.
37 likes@Willow hes a amature for street smarts.
0 likes@Rashad Avery Everyone here thinks you're such a badass, kid
15 likes@pk_scheirer appreciate you bro🤣😂😂
0 likes@Eris Gh0sted ok was that supposed to be an insult? If so it didn’t bother me 🤣😂
0 likes@[A]ddiction no. not at all. i don’t care about him in a personal way, but i have empathy for every human being, even the most vile of people. i have people i absolutely despise but still feel empathy towards. i don’t know this man, i don’t like him nor do i dislike him. but he is human. i like to remember that, at the core, we are all humans and should be treated as such.
17 likeswe are largely a product of our environment, of which we don’t have much control. i empathize majorly with anyone who was forced to live through such hardships.
@Rashad Avery That will comeback to bite you later in life bud
4 likes@Jimmy Dean! 🤷♂️ oh well
0 likes@Rashad Avery We've all been in middle school buddy
4 likes@pk_scheirer what are you trynna say?
0 likesRashad Avery lowkey thats kinda concerning man idk...
0 likes@Mookies You care I don’t 🤣😂
0 likes@balls ok…
0 likes@C Liverpoolboy01 thanks bro
0 likes@GuessImTj thank you!!!!
0 likes@Rashad Avery Wtf you think I'm trying to say, genius?
3 likes@pk_scheirer Right? Not very bright 🤣😭
2 likes@Cami Kaye Perfectly put. I don’t understand how people lack basic empathy and then act as if that’s the “normal thing”. It will always be strange to me
1 likeI would venture to guess Jeff has a very high IQ.
1 likeim born in a shit environment , i have 2 jobs and went to med school dont complain and blame where and who gave birth to you , its your responsibility to make it in life a looser or a winner
0 likes@Mike Mayers good for you
0 likes@Willow lol so now if you know not to talk to the police you are ,,street smart" ?
0 likes@Jazzz yeah I’m so mad bro cause the music I do as a hobby doesn’t get enough views 🤣😂
0 likesWe really need to stop blaming upbringings and environments for people making stupid choices.
0 likes@Sergio Provasio facts bro!!
0 likesHim staying silent, shows that he understands his rights, how does the cops not see that.
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They figure he, like most criminals, are dumb to their rights and laws. But Jeff knows how the system works, so he plays chess back.
269 likesI would assume he needs verbal confirmation in order to continue.
224 likesthey do see it, it's obvious. they simply don't just let you go after you remain silent past a question, they try wear you down.. for example he wasn't released for 12 hours
122 likesIt's because in court you need a definitive answer. Kinda adds to the whole "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" thing.
59 likesBcs sometimes the language they use is hard to understand. They need verbal confirmation before they can continue reading off the rest of his rights. If he says he didn’t understand what they meant, courts would have to throw out any evidence gotten from the interrogation.
19 likesBecause legal procedure dictates you can't just say "he looked like he understood his rights" in court because that's extremely arbitrary and subjective. How did you not see that?
40 likeswede smonker just like in csgo
0 likeswede smonker yessir yessir
2 likes@Stoner gamer lighting up a bowl 4 u chief 💙
3 likeswede smonker yessir ill smack a dab rn 💪🏻
2 likes@Stoner gamer my dog
0 likesPersistence is key lol
0 likesThey have to get an agreement from you
1 likeThey even say it
Exactly!
0 likesMy Grandniece is a drug addicted very streetwise lady. Could of made a million in hollyweird! Could adapt to anything and any situation 🤔 Sad
4 likesI guess they need to let any murder suspect go if they don't say anything.
0 likesHe has to ask that
0 likesAlso, the right to stay silent applies to questions that may incriminate him or be used against him in court. He needs to confirm that he knows his rights in some way and being silent in that regard is not what the right is made for.
0 likesCops need verbal conformation. It’s not that they’re dumb. It’s that they literally need to hear them say yes to proceed.
3 likesThey see it, but they want him so slip up and say something the wrong way so they can nail him to the wall. Interrogation is easier than really searching for criminals. They don't even bother to look for any of the missing kids either.
0 likesObviously the cop understands that. He can’t proceed until he gets a clear yes or no.
0 likesThey need a verbal confirmation if he isn't going to sign it I think
0 likesmmmm
0 likesThey need verbal confirmation on the record
0 likes@bell J They just need verbal confirmation...
0 likesProlly was looking for a nod
0 likesThis guy's so smart, he's an addict going through a withdrawal and still managed to give quick and witty answers in an interrogation!
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You become hyper sensitive through withdrawal, and definitely aren’t going to be interested in taking anyone’s bullshit
103 likesThe prick bit had me in tears 😂😂😂
52 likesAgitation can lead one to be more blunt
9 likesseems like its not his first rodeo and he saw first or second hand what talking to the cops gets you as a heroin junky. His best course of action would have been just to remain silent like he tried to do in the beginning.
16 likesBetter than every First 48 interview
4 likeshe's not even smart just your average joe with some basic common sense
3 likes@Tasneef Ali same
0 likesNo... he is a drug addict who can't seem to do anything but stay addicted to drugs, lie, cheat and steal. He has no merit and there is nothing to cheer on here. He requires rehabilitation or needs to stay in a cell till he dies.
3 likes@keiharris332 ohhh wow till he dies? for being an addict? stone age much?
12 likes@keiharris332 that’s a little extreme
0 likes@keiharris332 so u know what it’s like to be addicted, if u knew u wouldn’t be saying that not all these guys are bad
1 like@Nefferpitou to be fair they said rehabilitation first.
0 likes@keiharris332 yeah this is def b8
0 likesWow, you guys seem to not get that it was sarcasm.
0 likes@Ar ne I mean it isn’t a very sarcastic tone just sounds like some cynical person on YouTube which is pretty common
1 like@Kyle Miller How can u tell that it isn't a sarcastic tone ? I mean, my sarcasm is pretty dry and most people don't even get it in real life
0 likes@Bella Rosewood Why do you think that just because someone is addicted they can't be smart? Addiction is a mental illness, as is depression. And he's a heroin addict, not an alcohol addict, meaning that he could probably life his whole life with this addiction without getting severe brain damage or something.
2 likesYea hes a real fucking genius??? 😂😂😂
1 likeNot smart enough to not do heroin though is he.
1 likethat doesn’t make him smart ... it makes him conscious...
0 likes@keiharris332 100% Agree
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0 likesIf you’ve ever BEEN an addict going thru w/d...quick, snarky, irritable and dismissive answers are basically all you can GIVE someone.
0 likesHa
1 likeFINALLY someone that doesn’t fall for the “ I’m your friend, I’m here to help you “ shit. Not only doesn’t fall for it but also calls them out on it
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i doubt anybody falls for it its just awkward to point out that its a lie it doesn't get the interrogation anywhere
14 likes@kul 2 so instead of feeling awkward you'd let the investigators coerce you into a confession as they are your friends, they know best and they are there to help you
41 likesPeople don't fall for it, they just think they are smart enough to not incriminate themselves. The truth is though that everyone is susceptible to interrogation techniques. Some folks may not incriminate themselves but they will reveal information that the cops can use.
27 likes@Charles-André Comeau I’ve seen many many interrogations where people fall for it hook line and sinker and play straight into the authorities hands.
18 likesYeah I fuckin love it. If more people did that the prisons would be half empty
8 likesYeah all the other dumb people not realize they are the prime suspects in the interrogation room 🤣🤣🤣 this guys knew you’re good cop bad cop and you want a confession from me
0 likes@Erica Mercado exactly. If you're not there as a witness then you are a potential suspect. The police don't want to help them. They are just doing their job trying to get a confession as you say
3 likesI almost disliked this comment, but then I saw your username and I couldn’t help but laugh.
2 likes@GarlicBred dislike all you want. 1.1k have already liked it. Your thumbs down won't even show
1 like@kul 2 well Stephanie Lazarus and Jennifer did
1 likeNow, I would think something like "Finally I've made some friends" 😂🤣
0 likestruth told
0 likesGod bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
1 like@olivia gracewhilst your entitled to your beliefs, I'm not interested in your religious propogander.
0 likesAs far as I'm concerned religion is a control mechanism for gullible weak minded people that need to be led in life.
I'm not going to be told how to live my life based on a 2000 year old story book about a magical sky fairy, who if does exist seems to be allowing an awful lot of pain and suffering in the world.
You may want to dedicate your life to worshipping that but I don't.
There are many religions in the world, they can't all be right, What makes you so sure yours is the correct one?
@Charles-André Comeau Yep, EVERYONE.
0 likesThis guy clearly isn't stupid. He has a good head on his shoulders. It's a crying shame addiction found its claws in him, honestly.
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he has a youtube channel where he has been posting recently. Hopefully he's doing better
36 likesReal Walkthroughs really? What is it called?
3 likes@Sekinafi it's the pinned comment on this video
7 likesReal Walkthroughs thank you!
1 like@Real Walkthroughs can you send plz
1 likeJust about everybody is addicted to something. The chemical known as "heroin" isn't any more harmful to the body than caffeine in appropriate doses. It's the "war on drugs" mentality and the stigma around it that causes most of the damage. That's what's a crying shame
32 likesI agree that he's not stupid, and I do like him.. but I always thought the metaphor "good head on their shoulders" referred to clarity of mind and goal-oriented behaviour, which I would not attribute to Jeff.
10 likes@Nekrone Schwartz did you really just said that heroine and coffee are the same
23 likes@Myata Myatnya Obviously, I didn't say they were the same, and I didn't even mention coffee at all. Did you know that an excessive amount of caffeine is bad for your heart and can kill you?
4 likes@Nekrone Schwartz an excessive amount of anything can kill you. bet if I eaten a big shitton amount of nice healthy vegetables I'd also die. good that nobody would actually willingly eat that much food/drink that much coffee, so it's kinda harmless anyway
12 likes@Myata Myatnya About 10 grams of caffeine can kill the average person. A tablespoon of sugar weighs 12 grams. A tablespoon of sugar won't harm the average person, but a tablespoon of caffeine will kill
1 like@Nekrone Schwartz just gonna completely gloss over the potential for physical addiction in heroin and the other drugs and tolerance build-up huh. There are some drugs that I don't think should be part of the "war" narrative but heroin sure as hell isn't one of them
14 likes@deathendz Drugs like caffeine and nicotine build up tolerance too and cause physical addiction. You might not know this, but heroin was legal once and was sold by Bayer - the same company that makes aspirin. It wasn't that big of a deal at the time, and was nothing like the devastation that's occurred since the "war on drugs"
7 likes@Nekrone Schwartz yes I do know it the same way I know that coke had actual coke in it back in the day as well. They were removed for the same reason why codeine is gradually being phased out from cough medications because they had a huge propensity for tolerance build-up and addiction and subsequently, abuse. They act strongly and if I recall, way differently on the dopaminergic receptors than most other drugs and your brain self corrects much more quickly on them leading to a dependency on a way larger level than other drugs. And their side effects? The only other drug that has withdrawal symptoms as bad as or even worse than heroin that I know of is alcohol.
14 likesNo caffeine or nicotine? What's the worse that could happen? A little anxiety? Insomnia?
No heroin? Cramps, vomitting, profuse sweating, possible seizures among others. Withdrawal symptoms so bad that people actually need the drug just to stop them.
The craving it can cause is so unbelievably strong and the drug does so much damage that I agree with the "war on heroin". I mean, I'm willing to bet never in the history of humans has there been a marijuana addict that goes to rob a bank to fuel his addiction or a nicotine addict that murders someone for a pack of cigarettes just so he can get his nicotine fix. But heroin sure as shit has led to these outcomes before.
@Nekrone Schwartz this comment is nauseatingly damn stupid. You’re trying to say the damage of heroin is done by “stigma” and that’s it? If there were no “stigma”, heroin addicts would be in peak physical shape and have none of the problems heroin addiction causes? Let me tell you something about your “caffeine is just as harmful as heroin!” thing. My father consumed caffeine for decades. Coffee and Red Bull were his favorites. Never killed him, never causes withdrawals or physical issues. THEN when I was 12/13, he became addicted to heroin. Within a short span of time, he lost a large amount of weight, would vomit and shake whenever he tried to stop, and had to wear long sleeves at all times because his arms were covered in track marks. He died a matter of feet away from my sleeping siblings and I (I was 13) and left us to wake up to our mom picking us up crying and a house surrounded by police cars. Like… I had to wake up and the first words I hear are “come on, I’m taking you home, daddy died last night”. And you’re gonna look at me deadass and tell me that his caffeine consumption was as destructive and harmful as his heroin consumption? Sometimes when y’all try to be “woke”, you just sound fcking idiotic
16 likes🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
0 likes@Nekrone Schwartz i think you forgot about withdrawals
0 likesNice FEH profile picture
0 likes@Ben Franklin Inanimate object didn't make you do anything, you chose to do that! Regardless of how harmful you think heroin is, take a tablespoon of caffeine and you will be dead
1 like@Nekrone Schwartz I would agree, if it wasnt for the fact that a majority of hard drugs are being cut with Fentynl and Carfentynl(if they can get it) which even medically dispersed is in a patch that's 500 micrograms with a dose release over 12 hours via patch. With the current ecosystem I believe that one could reasonably assume that due to the cutting of diethylmorphine with fentynl would indeed make the substance far less than safe.
0 likesIf the drugs were not being cut commonly (according to public sources such as drug dealers AMAs, news stories, vice in depth videos, etc ) I'd completely agree with your statement as it is relatively inert when used properly(as in medical morphine not street morphine like heroin), as morphine is still a damn good chemical for the job.
@Tyler Nichols
0 likesThe fact that illicit drugs are cut with extremely toxic substances (i.e. carfentanyl) strengthens my point.
If said drugs weren't illegal; people that need them could buy them at a pharmacy and they wouldn't have to worry about it being cut with potentially lethal substances.
If we're talking about what an appropriate dose of carfentanyl would be for someone, it's unlikely that it would be used for human consumption in the first place since fentanyl would be easily affordable and available. Carfentanyl would of course still be appropriate when treating elephants or other large animals.
@abzd The addiction probably started much earlier, you just didn't notice back then and it seems you are still unable to understand the obvious by now. Sounds idiotic as well.
0 likes@Nekrone Schwartz caffeine dosent damage your internal organs and tissues
0 likes@Nekrone Schwartz it was once also legal to own peo ple. Just because something was once allowed doesn't mean it's alright
0 likes@abzd amen
0 likes@Big Crunch You're comparing apples and oranges here bozo. The whole point is that there was no opioid epidemic when opioids were legal.
1 like@Big Crunch Yes caffeine can cause hypertension and increase chances of heart disease. Eating a tablespoon of caffeine would kill just about anybody.
0 likesIf he hadnt been addicted to heroin we wouldnt have seen this legend in action.
0 likes@Real Walkthroughs uhmmm theres no pinned comment on this video :/
0 likes@bob bob I sure see it, right at the top, from JCS. Has a link to Jeff's Patreon, too.
0 likesI know he's a criminal but when he gets asked how long he's been on drugs and he says "long time" you can hear that sadness in his voice. Like he's lost all hope.
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Yeah i felt this too
56 likesNobody likes to need anything.
66 likesReminds me of a video game character
9 likesPoor guy
9 likesNot all criminals are bad
55 likes@Caroline Costello no. But they are still criminals.
12 likes@Cameron Grant not sure what law your going by but whatever makes you feel better.
5 likes@Cameron Grant oh don't get me wrong! I a low life, beyond all measure! I've done things that are unforgivable even by my own standards. But I've met people on both sides of the law who were good, and people who were bad. But a criminal violates the law, not morality. You have to remember to keep right and wrong, legal and illegal, separate.
14 likes@Cameron Grant okay. I mean I don't fully understand what your getting at but okay.
2 likesIt was the buddy at the end for me
3 likesyeaa. right. and in the same moment you can see specific nervous foot clench which he did. feet are the most "truthtelling" parts of the body, which is very hard to control and "professional liars" usually don't pay attention to learn to control that part.
1 likeback to the topic: he clench feet just after he said that phrase - it can mean, just as you think "great sadness" but it can also mean "yeaa, that sounded cool" - which was my first thought.
he's a junky, he lives from telling lies to normal ppl and he's professional after whole these years.
if you never knew that kind of ppl, then u can just believe me, but i don't expect you to.
@Głowa Bez Jeźdźca okay.
1 like@AtibaVV same as everyone else.
0 likesMost heroin addicts would get clean if they could, and if there was anything else left in their lives. Without anything else, they don't have the will to get clean even though they know the drugs make it impossible to have anything else. It's a really vicious cycle.
9 likes@Cameron Grant I've never done any of those. Got any more? I can say with almost complete certainty that I've never broken a law.
0 likes@Cameron Grant nope
0 likes@Cameron Grant except they don't. Some people respect the law and appreciate rules.
0 likes@Cameron Grant I'm not misunderstanding anything. You asked a really clear question and I gave you a really clear answer. It's not my problem if the only way you can justify your own flouting of the law is by projecting your own issues onto others. Cars have a speedo for a reason, try looking at it more often 🙄
0 likes@Cameron Grant how many times do I have to say that I'm not 100% certain but to the best of my knowledge? I've asked you for examples and instead you've just tried to attack me. Take your weird issues elsewhere.
4 likes@Cameron Grant i never said i was 100% certain, so you're losing your mind and raging at me for absolutely nothing. Be less weird.
1 like@Cameron Grant lol because the only way anyone can display anger is by name calling. Obviously.🙄
1 like@Cameron Grant fussing? You're the one refusing to believe that I never went over the speed limit. Incredible how many people have selective memory on here.
1 like@Cameron Grant I never said it was fussing. You said I was fussing. STOP BEING SO WEIRD.
1 like@Cameron Grant oh yeah you haven't resorted to insults at all lmao. Sad that you have nothing better to do than berate someone who doesn't break the law.
1 like@Cameron Grant I never said I was 100% perfect. I said I'd never gone over the speed limit. Because I know how to use my eyes and look at the speedo. You seem awfully interested in whether it's past my bad time or I've had my afternoon snack for someone who isn't name calling or berating.
1 like@Cameron Grant being a disingenuous trog doesn't make you cool. Also, primary school children aren't allowed to drive. You'd think someone with so much objective truth on their side would know that.
1 like@Cameron Grant no, you just said everything but those specific words, knowing you could feign innocence, which makes you disingenuous and you're well aware of it. Go away.
0 likes@jonsumoore how is it holier than thou to say I know how to look at a speedo? I don't speed. The speedo is there so you don't speed. Try using it!
0 likes@mydogeatspuke because you believe you are somehow a better person than the rest of us. Everyone goes past the limit at least once in a lifetime when focusing on the road and not the speedometer. Pretending not to have done it is ridiculous, unless you've never driven a car.
2 likes@mydogeatspuke Sure thing buddy. Keep doing you.
2 likesCriminals are human beings. We are allowed to feel empathy for them.
3 likes@Mary Go Round yeah. Thats kinda my point.
1 like@jonsumoore I never planned to do anything else...
1 like@Cameron Grant there is a difference between one mile over the speed limit and armed robbery. That you equate the two is scary.
3 likes@Cameron Grant There is no point in you saying that unless it is in the context of a comparison. It is a ridiculous comparison even if you don't understand that you did it.
1 like@Cameron Grant @mike Grutt that's your opinion and you're entitled to it even though I disagree. Ill voice my opinions as I see fit regardless if you or anyone else thinks its "ridiculous " <- OMG dude you're ridiculously insanely creepy!
0 likesAs a recovering heroin addict thats been clean about 4 years, that statement hit home. I know the feeling of being completely trapped. Not wanting to do the bad things you do. But get so lost and dug yourself so deep that you don't see there being a way out. Feeling like a lost cause after so many failed attempts to get sober... It's sad stuff. I don't with it on even my worst of enemies
2 likes@Głowa Bez Jeźdźca that was true sadness and regret! Trust when I tell you that. I am a recovered heroin addict. I have been sober now going on 6yrs. I was an addict for over 20yrs of my life. So much time, money, people, and love I've wasted. I didnt want to be that way. I hated that way of life. I wanted out. I wanted to be normal. I felt I could never be and that I didnt deserve it. Was I even worth it? I've tried so many times. It's pointless.
0 likesSo yeah, when he said it, I heard and seen all that sadness,regret, and complete hopelessness, that wasnt said.
-April
@mydogeatspuke check your state and city laws. You wouldnt believe some. I read that in Louisville, Kentucky it is against the law to walk down the highway in a bathing suit without carrying a bat. Lol not sure what circumstances in life would bring you there but if it does, now you know.
1 likeSo many laws are way out dated.
@matt snead I don't need to check anything lol. I don't break the law. And even if I had worn a bathing suit in Kentucky, that is in no way comparable to murder, which was the original "point" someone was trying to make. That none of us could judge a psychotic killer who took the lives of his young children as they begged him not to, because we'd all broken the law at some point. Instead of seeing how insane that statement is, you chose to try and correct me. That speaks volumes about both their intent and yours, as well as your characters.
0 likes@Cameron Grant LMAO! It's not worth your time. You cant change the mind of someone who is so deliriously perfect. They just gotta win this dang argument lol. I said Good Day
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@jonsumoore they never had to pass a car either lol
1 like@Tyler Mudge congrats on your 4yrs! That is amazing and awesome!!
0 likes-April
Also I was not even coming at you. At all! I am sorry that it came across that way. Truly I am. Have a blessed day.
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@Cameron Grant so true lol
0 likes@Cameron Grant lol it's all good
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@matt snead yes, correcting a total stranger is always lighthearted, obviously.
0 likes"Like he has lost all hope " that s what using drugs lead to :-(
1 likeWorst feeling you can imagine. Very few people make it out.. I was one of the lucky ones.
1 like@M Pulverman well he admits to using illegal drugs so.....
0 likes@M Pulverman yeah....its been my experience that logic doesn't actually work.
0 likes@M Pulverman okay fine whatever 🙄. Im sure this guy is a saint and never did anything wrong or illegal in his life.
0 likesFeel better now that I've apologized for insulting your boyfriend?
@M Pulverman im fully aware of that. Which is kind of the whole point of my original comment. Maybe when you grow up you'll be able to understand the things people white instead of looking for reasons to get offended on other people's behalf.
0 likes@M Pulverman nope. Try again
0 likes@M Pulverman its called feeling empathy for another person and their experiences. Get off your high horse and try it some time.
0 likes@M Pulverman nope.
0 likesYou only hear sadness because he's sober.
0 likesI think smokers can really empathize with him. Im not saying that he is rightfull to commit a crime or does not deserve punishment...but trust me, no one , NO ONE thinks drugs or any addiction is good to be in your life. Also...i felt so much mercy when he kept asking for sweets because when i want to smoke and i cant for some reason i tend to replace it with sweets, it has almost the same brain reaction and he just wanted to calm his nerves with coke. Sugar is a drug too, trust me.
0 likesso what if hes a criminal :/ he takes drugs hes not stabbing ppl every which way :/
0 likesIf I had known that this many people would get but hurt about me feeling for another human being and showing empathy, I would have never bothered with it.
0 likes@M Pulverman says the one who keeps coming back.
0 likesbig surprise, criminals are actually humans
0 likes@marlene F wow! really? You don't say?
0 likes@revolver taco Being a criminal simply means you've broken the law and breaking the law does not equate to doing bad stuff. Law is manmade and constantly instrumentalized in the interest of a handful of people.
0 likesSurprise, criminals are people too, usually in a tight spot :P
1 likeBeing a criminal doesn't make you a bad person. Sometimes you find yourself in situations where you're forced to do things you won't normally do. Not all laws are morally correct and sometimes the morally correct thing is against the law. Home robbery is not morally correct, however, he felt forced into the situation. Heroin is one hell of a drug. It makes a person completely different. He needs a medical detox and metal help. I fully believe he would be an amazing member of society if he was reformed. There is no reformation programs in American jails. I have first hand experience of that
0 likes@Michelle Christine Yeah that was-uhm ... kind of my point.
0 likes@whynottalklikeapirat I wasn't responding to you
0 likes@revolver taco well sounded like you just learned that
0 likes@revolver taco This exactly
0 likes@revolver taco I'm right they may be still criminals but I'd like to point out that not all laws are good and some shouldn't exist at all. Breaking those laws that shouldn't exist makes you a criminal. And that's not even going as far as to point out the other criminal in the room which is the cop trying to manufacture evidence against him by finding out what time he got to his friend's house and what door he came out of when he was arrested so that they can skew the story in that direction. These people aren't investigators they're more like novelists. Their job is to make that story fit whoever they catch. Nobody gives a fuck whether they get the right guy they give a fuck whether or not they get a conviction. A closure on the case means money for the department which means money for the city and money for the state. Long story short it's all about the kickbacks
0 likesHe’s doing a lot better now
0 likes@Alan Gohel i hope so.
0 likesI have a certain amount of sympathy and empathy for criminal behavior. If you murder an innocent person/child or touch kids it depletes and you’re not human to me. Drugs or violent crimes? Well I have less sympathy/empathy for them but I still consider the human. It just makes me sad. Georgia legalizing drugs isn’t going to stop all this shit that’s for sure .
0 likesDo you think animals have rules..or do you think animals should obey certain rules ?
0 likesHe’s clean now and he makes music
0 likesHow is it not known if he went to prison or not? If he did, there will be a record of it happening. No record, he didn't go. It seems pretty easy to work out.
1 likelol Jeff was pissed when the cop said; "You couldn't have committed the robbery and not remember?"
0 likesJeff is likeable since we don't know if the charges are valid or not. If it was proven that he actually did it then he won't be so likeable anymore
0 likesIf he tells the interrogator that he's been a junkie a long time doesn't get him in trouble
0 likes"It's in your best interest to talk to me." That's just a flat out fucking lie.
0 likesCop: you have the right to remain silent
0 likesJeff: and I'll make use of that right
Cop: keeps trying to get hime to speak
🤣🤣
This is how be a user n still gracious under pains n pressure, I applaud his behavior, most act like gronks n give us users a bad name.
0 likes“Thanks for the coke”
0 likes“You’re welcome.”
LOL
How can they keep reading the rights over and over and not get in trouble if he hasn’t seen a lawyer still. I’m confused.
1 likeI know this is kinda irrelevant but watching him chug the cokes to get his dopamine receptors kicking from the sugar hits home so hard with my parents and I feel bad for this man
0 likesIt should say "ANYTHING and EVERYTHING YOU say CAN and WILL be used to screw you over in court."
0 likesI feel like the antihero is over analysed here.
1 likeFor me I just like them because they say and do the shit I would like to say in the situation but don’t have the balls
“Wham Bam. Thank you for the Coke.”
0 likesBoss level: 9001
Oh no, one of those 'here's the deal' cops! Lol! You knew this was going nowhere!
0 likes“Well, wish in one hand, shit in the other. See which one fills up faster.”
1 likeCop: from where do you usually get Methadone?
1 likeJeff: I dont. I get Heroin ...... 😄
I kinda like that dude I know he's a junkie and all but I'm 100% sober and can still relate to him
0 likesOfficer: »You have the right to remain silent.«
0 likes…
Jeff remains silent…
Officer: »Do you understand?«
…
…
Silence…
He understands his rights he didn’t even answer that lmao.
1 like9:25 did they actually leave him in the room for five hours?
0 likesWhat part of “I want a lawyer “ do these guys not understand?!?
0 likesSo, lets make it clear here.If I dont get my heroine in time, can I just stay on coke? And for how long? Can it be diet? What about pepsi?
0 likesHE ASKED FOR A LAWYER AND THE COP KEEPS TALKING TO HIM. WTF?!
0 likesThe psychological torment that the police use against people in an interrogation could be considered cruel and usual punishment. The psychological torment that the police use to obtain confessions could also be used to throw out those confessions by having a psychologist come down and show how duress and fear tactics can be used to obtain a confession to just about anything.
0 likes"Wham bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell..." GOAT
0 likesHe asked for methadone he gets a Coke. Him was like "Meh. Thanks anyway"
0 likes4:24 an antihero must have part of an arm missing too.
0 likes“Thanks for the coke.”
0 likesGOOD MANNERS FOR THE FUCKING WIN!
Am I wrong or aren't they legally not aloud to talk to him like this after he says he wants a lawyer???
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Well, the lawyer is for legal counsel. He retains the right to silence regardless of whether he's asked.
1 likeThe more he sits in that jail cell and starts to go through withdrawal the more he's willing to talk and they know that. BEING DOPE SICK IN JAIL IS ONE OF THE WORST THINGS ONE CAN EXPERIENCE.
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Sugar helps with withdrawal so that's why he's all about that soda🤪😜
0 likesThis was one of my most favorites videos
1 likeBeing a heroine addict for that long is an accomplishment in itself.
0 likes“Give me your side of the story. Convince me.“
2175 likesIt’s not Jeff’s job to convince the cops that he’s innocent. The burden of proof is on them to prove that he’s guilty.
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Innocent until proven guilty.
91 likesUnfortunately in America we are guilty until proven innocent!!!
167 likes@Alex Badillo where'd you get that
14 likes@Spikedthenuke I lived it all the time I’ve been arrested and had to wait to see the judge before I was let out or given bell! If I’m innocent until proven guilty why am i in jail Waiting to see the judge?
120 likes@Alex Badillo ding ding…you win a prize.
23 likes@Spikedthenuke from reality. A far cry from the ideals we supposedly hold on paper, ain't it? Take a look at the world, sparky. You'll soon see all the mud that stains our streets, and eventually realize that it's not actually mud.
24 likes@Grow ByDoing you can keep the price give it to your wife for your anniversary!!!!
8 likes@Alex Badillo Well , that cut deep my friend. Why would wish a wife upon me? Did I wrong you in another life? 😂
8 likes@Grow ByDoing : ya gay?
2 likes@Raw Oyster or maybe a female? 😂
3 likesIf only it worked that way
0 likes@Koyi Chan It's interrogation techniques meant to expose the guilty. If guilty people think the police have evidence, then they'll be more likely to admit to their guilt. Unfortunately, innocent people can be caught up in the crossfire, leading to a Type I error where an innocent person is convicted
4 likes@Alex Badillo It'd be nice if there was more discretion or something of an "in between". In countries like Czech Republic they let you go home for crimes and will take months to process it. While that sounds liberating it's also slightly laughable. There needs to be a revision that molds both concepts into one fair, singular thing.
2 likesI'm sure they have plenty of witnesses who can actually remember what they saw and gave statements on him
0 likesYou dont understand how the law works lol
2 likes@Chance Gomm Except that he got off because they fuckin didn't
4 likes@Spikedthenuke blue lives matter pfp argument invalid
0 likes@Alexander Erickson that “convince me” line just rubbed me the wrong way.
2 likes@Chance Gomm they had no evidence the fact the interviewed him so many times told Jeff all he needed to know. The detectives are good Jeff is even better.
2 likesyeah, you can do that, but if you want them to stop investigating you, you would have to convince them that you're innocent.
0 likes@AMagicalTortoise guilty until proven guilty in the west.
1 like@Alex Badillo that sounds like a holding cell and should be limited to 48h. If the police/state break the law you take them to court. It’s called the trias politica and is a foundational pillar of the constitutional state
0 likesIt's an interrogation technique, not a legal demand.
2 likes@Spikedthenuke When he asked clearly for a lawyer and we see multiple times for the next HOURS the police attempting to get a confession instead of leaving him alone until he has legal representation. They claim to have solid evidence he is guilty so they do not NEED a confession. Fun fact, a confession is 100% guilty and unassailable by the defense unless EXTREME duress can be proven. 2 Cokes? Yeah, he says anything he's gone for 15 to 20. AND HE KNOWS THIS!
1 likeCops are trained to pressure for a confession, not to find the truth. I would be willing to bet not a single officer is out looking for more evidence or making sure they have the right guy at any time during this.
Sound about right, Alex?
@Alex Badillo that is wrong. america is one of the few countries that i know where you're innocent until proven guilty whereas many other countries you are truly guilty until proven innocent
0 likes@sui Have you ever been arrested or did time in America?
1 like@Ben Wil And that right there is the problem most of Americans can’t afford A lawyer!! And if you try to defend yourself you’re guilty automatically because this whole system is rigged to get money out of you or send you to jail!!!
2 likesYeah, but he did JUST say that he had substantial evidence against him, but asked him for his side as well, either to actually get his side, or for Jeff to bury himself.
0 likes@Thundercrack von Asswhistle Why is that laughable? That’s actually the definition of innocent until proven guilty!!! There shouldn’t be no in between that you’re innocent what are you guilty!!!!
0 likes@Alex Badillo don't you have pro deo lawyers in America? I can agree the prison system is a trick of the states to still have slaves though, America really is the disgrace of the west sometimes
1 likeIf you are In a interrogating room With handcuffs on you And they’re reading you you’re right the cops already think your guilty!!! All they’re doing is trying to get even more evidence against you!! I just knew that!!!!
1 like@Ben Wil Well here in New Jersey you still got to pay $250 And I don’t know no one who has won any case with a pro bono lawyer! Are they want you to do is to take a plea deal so they won’t have to do no work!!
1 like@Alex Badillo that's some messed up stuff :') sounds like bad lawyers/ greedy bastards to me
0 likes@Spikedthenuke it's facts, the innocent till proven guilty routea has never been exercised. Otherwise you wouldn't be jailed before proven guilty or innocent
0 likes@Alex Badillo What I mean is, my friend I know from there got busted for weed and coke and they legit let him walk home and he had to wait 4 months just to get a simple fine. If that was me I'd sure be laughing lol. I just find both ends of the spectrum a bit much, so it's not really me saying "oh he should go to jail" I just am stuck wondering how do you come up with something new to "break the mold". If it was heroine for instance like this guy, I'd really not want to ruin his life, especially since he shows so much merit and is all-together there. I think that instead of prison they should just actually try help them (nicer help than it usually is and genuine) get off the substance, and if they continue heinous crimes then actually lock them up. I just think there should be a balance between it all and instead of "jail or no jail" it should be a bit more.. thoughtful and tailored to the specifics. You get what I mean?
0 likesBasically I'm just stuck here with an empty thought on how you could mesh both ends together into something that isn't so heartless and robotic, but still remains pragmatic. I think the whole jail-scene should be ditched if it's apparent the people actually need their lives saved from themselves. They should take it from there if the suspect is showing the signs the video here underlines instead of trying to bait or gaslight them into imprisonment/incarceration.
Smartest man I’ve ever seen in these vids
1 likeI hope Jeff sees this and comments what happened after this
0 likes‘You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand Jeff?’
0 likesJeff: remains silent
Also - Deadpool, best AntiHero.
“I want a lawyer”
0 likesSo where’s the lawyer?
>Gets arrested and interrogated
5704 likes>Drinks Coke
>Refuses to elaborate
>Leaves
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free soda lifehack
381 likesgreentext but on YouTube
35 likes@i asked lol
2 likesYep but he left without his Butterfinger the cops didn't keep their word so they're branch of designers cops. I tell you one thing I keep my word all the time and I'm prom and I don't BS anybody I say imma do something I do it I say I'm going to buy something buy it. I said take him out for dinner I do it I don't flake out...
17 likesLooks like they fell for the "give me a coke and I'll talk" ruse at least twice.
39 likesThanks for sharing
0 likessigma male
14 likes>mfw
2 likesPlot twist: Jeff is not a heroin addict ...but a Coke addict.
29 likesCame here looking for this…Thank you!
0 likes@francisco hahahah
0 likesYouve got the chance to say "refuses to elaborate any further" Wnd you missed it
0 likesAlso detoxed for few days so got his tolerance down for extra few days too so you know he was tripping hard on that needle after getting released, not to mention the relief of not going to prison for life lol
0 likesI laughed very loudly at this. Hahaha
1 likeFucking based
2 likes.
0 likessigma moment
0 likes@francisco LOL
0 likes5mins crafts be like:
0 likessoda%
1 like@LONLITO TOO SWIFT do you think the multimillion dollar franchise that is Publix only exists in tampa fl. Jesus christ
1 likeHaha
0 likesgood meme
0 likes>wham bam
0 likes“wham bam thank you for the coke put me in the cell” will be jeffs epitaph
0 likesWritten in feb2022 Jeff got off hard drugs still sold thc products across the Midwest went to jail after a long police chase (he had a mustang it was totaled I know this because cause he took me in like a lil bro ) he got out recently and works legally setting up Walmarts around the Midwest
1 likeHe immediately used his rights 😂
0 likes3:28
0 likes"This is a character that lies, cheats, steals..."
Eddie Guerrero: "... Huh?"
Finally, someone who actually understands their rights and doesn't blabber unnecessarily
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Cause he wasn’t guilty of anything 😭😭
9 likes@maria aquino but even if you are guilty, there's a reason your rights are read to you. Don't say anything without a lawyer unless you want the harshest punishment
21 likesHow is Jeff a mystery? This is 2022, someone’s gotta know. Shit, a whole lot of someones have to know.
0 likesCop- Do you understand your rights?
0 likesJeff- No
Cop- Pardon?
Jeff- Yeah
Jeff is smarter than they're used to lol
0 likesTo be fair to “Bad Santa,” he was on his break at a shit job and a much more well off woman with no respect for his plight came up and naively expected him to act for her child. His response could have been nicer but I mean, come on.
0 likes“You have the right to remain silent”
3781 likesDetective: “Do you understand”
Jeff: 😶
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Detective:👁👄👁
74 likes😀
1 likeDetective: "hold on, you weren't actually supposed to do it"
57 likesI was drinking water while reading this comment 🤣--- i choked on water
7 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 likewhat else is he suppost to do?
2 likes@Mr_Dolphin ikr lmao
0 likes@kenjixic become telepathic
0 likes@godsent gg only as of 1 month ago? Eta: are we sure it's legit?
0 likesWELL... He DID remain silent. LOL!
1 like💀💀💀
0 likesJeff has a youtube channel, and it's quite interesting 😂😭
0 likesI love this guy 😆
0 likesFucking total legend :)
0 likesJunkies always sound honest when they`re lying. Particularly heroin addicts. We all want to believe Jeff, and he`s a great subject for this channel. But, I would not be inclined to give Jeff the benefit of any doubt here. Lot of charisma and presence. I don`t curse him because he`s a junky; that`s just a sickness. But, he has to commit crime repeatedly to pay for the junk. It`s in the nature of the smack head. I like to believe he cleaned up. But then, I tell my kids that santa is real as well.
0 likesi love that they were literally discussing to each other and then suddenly
3964 likes-thanks for the coke
-you're welcome
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shows a glimmer of humanity on both characters
123 likesYes - it's like they are both acting in their harsh roles, but took a moment break to be decent, civil humans, and then back to their roles.
141 likesPolite
3 likesAt the end of the day they both have empathy
9 likesProfessionals have standards 🤧
1 likeLiterally discussing to each other? What???
0 likes@jumpinjohnnyruss yeah i didn't know how to express that, it's not my first language
1 like@Stephen Grigg the persecutor doesn’t.
0 likesMost writers couldn’t hope to make a back and forth half this good
2 likesthis is the south, my friend.
0 likes@jumpinjohnnyruss i think he meant arguing, but it was easy to infer.
0 likes@Shadow Xxx It's mostly to initiate the psychology of reciprocation. I did something nice for you now you do something nice for me. It builds rapport.
0 likesThe irony being Jeff knew damn well the "Nice" thing they wanted in return was to put Jeff away for what would probably be the rest of his life so said NOPE.
The way he awkwardly downs it with the cuffs right after is hilarious
0 likesor the part when he says you cant drink it any more and then jeff says canti finish it with concerning voice and the officer just gave it back to him
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likes"Wham Bam, Thank for the coke now get me into the cell" Jeff
0 likes"so wham bam thank you for the coke, put me back in my cell" lmfao 😂 savage af
0 likesHe got bigger Problems that time. I like how this Story ends.
0 likesOkay, this "suspect" is being coerced by the cops. In which Southern State of Depravity is this "interrogation" being conducted?
0 likesCop: “You couldn’t of robbed the place and not remembered?”
1669 likesJeff: “Fuck no”
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that cop was just a little bit more persistence away for this to be some weird reverse gaslighting bullshit
63 likesThe scary thing for some of us is that we have done things we have no recollection of. Either told to us after or even recorded.
7 likescouldn't *have
10 likes@Dude Longcouch thanks 🙏🏻
3 likes@Cyn Hicks Its possible for anyone to commit a crime and not remember. The question garners no information whatsoever, and yet they somehow use it as evidence against you. If you say 'yes, it is possible for a human to perform an act and then forget' then that is considered evidence against you...
6 likesBro is real smart for a heroin addict 😂 these cops got played
1 likeJeff "How about that butterfinger you promised"
1 like🤣 this guy
he's 6 ft 5 in, and weighting 153 lb! this man looks so skinny as hell. I just can't imagine it.
0 likesHow many times does he have to call for a lawyer?
0 likesJeff is a likeable character. Seems like a person with potential if he had decent options.
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Define decent options? 🤔
18 likes@Daniel - I think a lot of people make bad choices in early life, often because they are in bad circumstances... and then it's hard to crawl out of the hole you've dug. And fewer people are going to give them a chance/opportunity to get them going in a good/positive direction.
354 likesI write this as my god-son is going to be released from prison in about 2 weeks, after being in for 2.5 years. He is so smart, kind, thoughtful, handsome, charming, athletic, musically talented, amazing at picking up foreign languages, etc... has so much potential. But when his parents divorced - sisters went with mom - so he went with his father to take care of him as his father is a gambler and alcoholic - father would spend dole money too quickly and leave his boy hungry and without heat in winter. He was then thrown onto the street at 15/16. His mother wouldn't take him back because she felt he had chosen his father. So to survive, he ended up in a gang... once in it was hard to get out. So that's what I was thinking about "a person with potential if he had decent options".
@Greg Brogan person with potential if he had asked for help, but he made a choice, the wrong one
16 likes@Neko Kitty Cat - How do you know he had someone to turn to for help? In this case it doesn't seem he did anything wrong.
174 likesU mean when he have opioide ... lol
1 likeWell it looks like he's doing okay now. Has a youtube channel and everything.
5 likes@The Primordial Logic , i hope for him look like a nice guy. Original OG i can see that. How Man, everybody ho see and now , ... now man just that ! ;))
0 likes@The Primordial Logic - oh really? What's his youtube channel?
3 likes@Greg Brogan Check the description or the pinned comment.
5 likes@The Primordial Logic -Thanks
1 like@Neko Kitty Cat your assuming there was help available
19 likesand not all "help" actually helps
@Jackson Cremean yes, but MILLIONS of people came from abusive families or unfavorable backgrounds and only a small percentage of them become criminals, so if help is "bad" in one place it should be good enough in another place if a person truly wants to change circumstances.
5 likes@Neko Kitty Cat So you understand the situation of millions of people? Impressive!
19 likes@Jackson Cremean everyone understands who learn history. I don't want argue and push my opinion here, just want to say -we responsible for our own choices
6 likes@Neko Kitty Cat nobody was ever arguing that everyone is not responsible for our actions
15 likes@Greg Brogan Greg gets it. It's a fucking shame too many ppl in this world just don't get it. They think everyone has the options they have/had, or at least something similar.
23 likesIt's infuriating to hear about how anyone can work their way up outta the ghetto if they just work hard, because this ONE dude they heard of did it. Yes, those few ppl who make it probably worked hard, but they also likely hit the fucking lottery a few times along the way by meeting the right person, getting a lucky opportunity, not getting caught doing something wrong, etc.
I'm white, I'm relatively successful, I've worked hard...but I was 10000000% afforded way more opportunities than most people in the world. It would be very easy for me to tell everyone to just work hard, and if you're not successful then you obviously didn't try hard enough or are just a shitty person. But that's not how life is.
So cut people some fucking slack and get over yourself. I pray that everyone that has no empathy for people struggling in life get taken down a few notches and have to experience what it's like...that's the only way they'll learn.
@Matt Neal - Thanks, Matt. It really is frustrating to hear people say "He made his choices" with no understanding of what options someone may have had available. I am also white and come from quite a privileged background. But I have some friends who I admire deeply who really struggled...
11 likes@Matt Neal - By the way... I mentioned my godson/friend getting out of prison in a couple weeks. Well... He has now been out a couple weeks. He is so smart... He had just a bit of money when he went into prison - he researched, bought and traded cryptocurrencies - he did so well that he got out with a nice stash of money. He hit one of those lotteries in life that you mentioned. He really deserves some good luck now - and to be able to choose between nice options! Today he bought himself a used Range Rover - it looks like a beautiful car - I'm so happy for him.
12 likes@Greg Brogan good to hear man👍 Hope he keeps it up! Tell him he went from a great investment to a shitty one tho...cars are the worst investments ever! Might look nice, but eventually every car is worth zero.
2 likesGood to splurge on yourself every once in a while, sounds like he deserves it!
@Matt Neal - Yah, not an investment, more a practical need where he is. He got a 2013 used car. I think it will hold some value. He was spending too much on public transport - he really needs a car to get around...
4 likes@Greg Brogan lol I hear ya man. Was just joking around referencing his solid investment in the crypto. Like we said before, no one knows other ppl's circumstances. That was actually a perfect example.
4 likesMight seem like a dumb splurge, but actually will save money and time over public transport.
@Claudiu Dan Maybe you're a little out of touch with the themes and progression's for the average adolescent in growing-up and coming of age in North America (Probably the entire world I dont know) over the last twenty some years. It is not an uncommon experience to feel peer pressure as an early teen or young adult and for which, using alcohol or drugs is a common and usual reason for this. Considering the range of ages for this demographic, purchasing alcohol is impossible so procurring drugs can even be easier for this group. This was almost a guarantee some years ago, but at least the word is now out that parents should keep an eye on their prescription meds. For instance when I was in highschool, it was much easier to find oxycontin than it was to find alcohol.
1 likeI could see him being a dirtier Matthew McConaughey like actor 😂
1 likePersonal responsibility. He made the choices that led him here. NO ONE ELSE
2 likes@Michael Coffman - Sorry - wasn't he INNOCENT of this crime??!! So how does personal responsibility bring him in there?
2 likes*if he made decent choices
0 likesdoesn't seem very likable to me..he's made some bad choices
0 likes@breckoz - I have friends who have made bad choices, and even spent time in prison - makes for interesting friends. LOL Great people can make bad choices.
2 likes@Greg Brogan Yes and then there are those that keep making bad choices. And you don't want to be in their path when they do.
3 likes@Greg Brogan I hope your godson gets a second chance, man. Hopes he find the best path for him.
2 likes@Neko Kitty Cat so what? He can change now, he's forever doomed because he made a wrong choice? Of course in this guy's case he probably kept right on making those choices, but it doesn't mean he can't change. He just needs something better than the drug makes him feel.
3 likes@Mabi Thanks! I appreciate that! He is trying... But it's tough.... He had put a US$150 deposit down on renting an apartment about a week ago - that just takes the property off the market for a week to process his application. Then his financial score came back in the red-zone, so he agreed to pay a year rent + security deposit = 13 months rent in advance = US$17,000. They made him jump through hoops for a week to show that he had paid a US$150 outstanding fine that he hadn't realized existed, and show he has finances available to cover himself for at least a year, etc.. All while the landlord told him he would be happy to rent to him. But then yesterday when my godson was supposed to go pay the US$17,000 in advance, they informed him by email that they rejected his rental application. Felt like a kick in the gut - even paying a year up front, he was still rejected. It's hard on him - he feels like he's never going to catch a break. I can't imagine his situation if he had gotten out of prison with no money like most people... Really not easy...
4 likesBut I'm really proud of him. He is a such good guy and so talented. When he was in prison he submitted a song to an arts contest (witn categories like painting, music, etc) - 1,300 songs entered and he took second/silver. Not sure if you have spotify but this is the song https://open.spotify.com/album/5DaZBcvLCtLpZrtVcwDjii
I think it's really good.
Thanks again for the good wishes. Kind of you... Wish you all the best too.
@Greg Brogan thanks, man! All I can do is send good thoughts his way, but heck, I'm sure good things will come his way. All the best to you too! (I'll check his song out!)
3 likes@T - Thanks.
0 likes@Fa Mulan - When your own parents abuse you, how much trust do you think you're going to have in random strangers... That was not an easy choice for him... And again, you make a choice at 16 and it impacts your whole future... He is really trying now to stay clear of any trouble.
2 likes@Greg Brogan As someone who had a drug problem earlier in life, this can't be more true.
1 likeThe longer you live like that, the more normal life skills everyone assumes you have atrophy, the more difficult it becomes to reintegrate. In a way, these kind of lifestyles are even worse than long term isolation - it's almost like rehabilitating someone who's lived in the wild like an animal. You need to re-learn basic things that everyone takes for granted, and it's not always easy to find someone who will teach a grown man to organize himself like they would a child. Nor easy for a grown man to accept that kind of help when it's offered.
@Zetsumi - Hey - thanks for your comment. Interesting... it sounds like you were able to break your drug problem. Would you mind telling me more about how you were able to do that? Did you get and accept the help you mentioned? Wish you all the best.
0 likes@Jackson Cremean By saying someone "didn't have decent options" you are indeed taking the responsibility for their actions off their shoulders as you are implying they had no other choice but to do wrong. However, this is not true. Even people in the most destitute circumstances can make the right choices, it is just harder to as in those circumstances it's easier to do wrong for short term gain than it is to go the hard route for long term gains. This is basically the same for everyone albeit someone in a middle class or upper class upbringing usually doesn't have to worry about the worst possible outcomes such as homelessness or starving.
2 likes@Zach no absolutely not
2 likesHaving a simplistic view of the world that some people are simply evil and others are good is just childish life is more complex than this
I'm simply saying to look at things from Jeff's perspective and who knows you may have done worse than what Jeff did if you were in his shoes
@Greg Brogan lol you made that entire story up lol
0 likes@Zach no - Your language is telling. It's interesting you say "it's easier to do wrong for short term gain..." It shows you really don't understand "the most destitute circumstances". In my "godson's" case, it wasn't "short term gain" but rather short term survival. He would be thinking, how am I going to make it the next couple days or to the end of the week... and would worry about how to survive next week, next week. You can't think of right choices when you are really on edge of not surviving the week. He did go hungry at times. And cold with no heat in winter. That desperation really affects you. As a 15/16 year old, these were what he saw as his 2 options when his father threw him out on the street: 1. live on the street trying to find some labourer work but the work wouldn't pay the bills so wouldn't get him off the street. 2. deliver some drugs for a gang and have money enough to eat and have shelter. I'd say that he "didn't have decent options". And when you are desperate trying to survive, your mental state is quite different, you're not thinking about how this will affect my future. You're not thinking about getting to university or a career... It's how am I going to eat today? So until you have faced "the worst possible outcomes such as homelessness or starving" I think you should try to be a lot less judgemental and have a lot more compassion. Even people who make bad choices can try to make good choices later in life. They can be haunted by their past always making it more difficult to make good choices in the future... When you get out of prison and no one will rent an apartment to you because of your past, again you are getting into a desperate situation. My "godson" (recently released from prison) has just rented a far-too-big house for twice what he was hoping to pay because that landlord was the only one willing to rent to him... and they made him pay a year upfront.
1 likeWhat video was you watching?
0 likeseven a good kid can have their life ruined by heroin. I would know, I was one.
1 like@Christopher Anderson - Hope you got back on track, Chris.
1 like@Greg Brogan <3 Thanks! For the most part, yeah. Still have the addiction to the medication that keeps me off of the heroin BUT at least there's that. It looks like Jeff is doing pretty well these days too so that's good to see.
1 likeI am spending the holidays with my wife and her family so I'm happy about that.
Merry Christmas to you and hope you are having a good holidays!
@Christopher Anderson - Wow, good. Sounds like a good path. One day at a time. Glad you are with wife and family at the holidays. Please take care. Wish you all the best for the holidays and beyond.
1 likeDon't you mean "made decent decisions?"
0 likes@G B - It takes having decent options and then one can make a decent decisions.
0 likes@Greg Brogan except he made bad decisions. You can always find good options if you make smart decisions.
0 likes@G B - You are incredibly judgemental. You have no idea what his options were. And even if he made bad decisions, those choices would narrow future options so that it is more and more difficult to change... People can make mistakes and still need a break.
2 likes@Greg Brogan . I judge people for making bad decisions. No matter what circumstances we come from it's up to us to make good choices. We are responsible for ourselves and our own destiny.
0 likes@Neko Kitty Cat So one choice leads to a life sentence of being a bad person? Harsh.
1 like@Greg Brogan when you make bad choices for your whole life...it's not like he just made some bad choices, it's in ones character. Look at the people who had everything.....and still made "bad choices" like the menendez brothers. You are who you are, no matter your upbringing it situations. The childhood I went through I should be a serial killer, at least that's what they all blame it on. This guy may not rob people, but his shitty life is all on him, I'm sure there were those who tried to help....and look where's he's at....hanging with a crowd that is always targeted by cops.
1 like@HahnsMantra - Oh wow. How well do you know Jeff? You sound like you grew up together.
0 likes@Greg Brogan I don't know Jeff half as well as you do....man if only the walls could talk
0 likes@HahnsMantra - Then stop judging.
0 likes@Fa Mulan Because the foster system do famously works in America
0 likes@Greg Brogan Hey man just wanna say that as someone who can sometimes be judgemental just by labels. This story is a good reflection on the depth of things beyond those labels. I come from an EXTREMELY privledged background, my dad is an actual millionare. But I can still recognize problems with the system I've benefitted so greatly from and had good options from. Just like we can have some fucking EMPATHY for someone who didn't have as great choices. Hope you're both doing great.
0 likes@ChipCrit - Thanks! Hope you are doing great too!
0 likes@Johnathan - His past doesn't need to be his future.
0 likes@Greg Brogan no but his past will affect his future
0 likes@Johnathan - Yah, that's why I said "if he had decent options"
0 likesHe now has a youtube channel
0 likes*made better decisions.
0 likes@John Hans - Maybe a bit of both.
1 like@Greg Brogan yes
0 likeshes white and according to many americans this is all you need to be a billionaire
0 likes@Greg Brogan exactly 💯. U have a beautiful logical brain 🧠. God bless 💕😘
1 like@Matt Neal exactly 💯
0 likes@Neko Kitty Cat not everyone has had the se options and choices and life u had and have.
0 likesIt's called reality. I hate people that day "but if everyone else this and what if that".
Um yeah.. bad home life , bad relationships to life and others. Etc and morons putting all the blame and exuse on them .
We're all heading for salvation or destruction no matter what.
0 likesOmg I love him sooooooo much ♥️
0 likesSmart man!! Remain silent and go free!!
0 likesI love this guy
1 likeBeing told "You've probably heard these before haven't cha?" after being read my rights would have ticked me the fuck off too
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that cop in particular has read him his rights before though, he's been in loads of trouble with the police, he's just tryna get him to talk
95 likes@you-got-reported-fam hun I thy
0 likesI've never even been arrested and I thought the same thing for a moment 😭🤣
6 likesIt's not even aggressive or a dig or anything. The overwhelming majority of people have just heard these rights before or are aware of them, you're literally watching a video and hearing the rights yourself, hence you would've heard of them before.
16 likes@Moss Rocks that’s if you’re trying to be optimistic about what he said, I personally feel he most likely said that as a jab at how many times he’s been in trouble or something.
12 likes@Guytrash Gurtdog well yeah but he’s not wrong. It’s not like it’s news to him how many times he’s been arrested
3 likesI’ve heard em on Tv so like, it wouldn’t piss me off
1 like@Retro Rocket you obviously know “why”
2 likes@aa aa still was unnecessary to say tbh.
0 likesCop::: you have the right to remain silent.
0 likesJeff::: silent.
Released 12 hours later..
Yall see how that works?
love this guy
0 likes"Wham-bam, thank you for the coke. Now put me back in my cell." 😂😂😂😂😂
5 likesAfter he already had 1 coke...
"When's this coke gonna be here? Or is that just a fairy tale?"
"It'll be about 2 minutes..."
Dude gulps the fuck out of it
"Does that taste good?"
"Mmmhmmmm 😋"
Wtf kind of interrogation 😂😂😂😂
Jeff has developed a cop BS immunity shield.
0 likesOfficer: "You have the right to remain silent"
1485 likesJeff: "I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move"
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Cringe
13 likes@ThatTempesTGuy no u
9 likesfunny af
0 likesGo back to Reddit.
4 likes“a pro jailer move”
1 like"wam bam thank you for the coke put me back in my cell" lmaoooo
2 likesAs for which one I believe I would have to say neither. Bottom line, don't talk to your enemies, don't give them what they want and they'll let you go. Most people hang themselves falling for that buddy bs when cops hide to give traffic tickets and have the power to put you where you don't want to be. If that sounds like a friend you need to be a loner. They aren't on your side so piss on em.
0 likesI'm routing for Jeff 🤷♂️
0 likesThe first part when he read the Miranda rights was gold
0 likesThis guy clearly still has his wits, he says last time they didn't interview him as much, therefore they most not have enough evidence this time. That's a great observation I didn't really think about.
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Ya he’s a legend ❤️❤️
13 likesAlso dropping himself initabit tho but yh go on Jeff
2 likeshis withdrawal must have saved him you never know what would came out of his mouth that the cops could manipulate if he was super high.
13 likesJeff was clearly just running his mouth because he knew he could get away with it and it would give him more clout with all of his junkie friends and followers. Jeff could have remained silent, but his antagonistic demeanor is likely the reason cops keep putting him behind bars. Sucks to be Jeff really. Probably didn't really think about that one either, did ya?
2 likes@Rick the Swift yeah we did and what you say doesn't fit the profile of him at all. You just have bad blood against junkies without reasoning beyond the scope.
24 likes@Mishel R. hes one of those people who knows someone who became a junkie or a close family member became one so now hes on a self given mission to hate all of them meanwhile not knowing how it really feels being physically dependent on an illegal substance himself.
14 likesNot so swift after all..
0 likesAnd if we're talking swift, like the trucking company, they're a fuckin wreck anyway..
@Mishel R. Please do tell- what exactly is the profile of Jeff? And How exactly do I have "bad blood against junkies without reasoning beyond scope"?
3 likesPlease enlighten a brother because from what I can see, my words stand true, while yours are confusing and based on?
696th like Noice
0 likesDope addicts are clever. They’re cynical.
1 like@Rick the Swift Jeff tried remaining silent plenty of times and the cops continued pressing him after he invoked his right
2 likesOnly good thing about getting in trouble is you learn about how the police work and what kinda routine they use when they don't have enough evidence on somebody and they need some kind of confession or slip up. It's always better to stay silent and get a lawyer if anybody might be in some kind of trouble.
5 likes@Rick the Swift haha stand true against what? A prejudice?. I could explain it as a clinical psychologist but 1) i really don't think you give a shit 2) it implies to have a scientist research and I don't give that freely because we'll it's my job. y
3 likesYou just go there giving explanations like you were a professional, opinions based on prejudice, everything is always more difficult to study than an opinion based on your beliefs, but hey yes you stand true about your non professional opinion.
@Matt Murphy Actually no, I was growing my own weed before it became legal, and while I was there I was very cordial and only said thank you or no thank you for the most part. One of my old highschool classmates was one of the arresting officers, and he tried to apologize for taking me in, but I told him no apology was necessary for doing his job. After all he hadn't had any fault in the matter that I was aware of.
1 likeYou see, unlike Jeff, and probably unlike yourself, I am usually able to realize when I'm the one at fault. Was Jeff at fault in this instance? We don't know if he committed or aided in robbery. But, Has Jeff been at fault in the past for all of the other many instances he was arrested, and if so, was his demeanor in those instances cordial or compliant? Is it really his cordiality the reason why you all refer to him as "The Legend"?
@RJ Clark I'm not sure what video you watched, but the one I watched we all can see Jeff didn't "try" to remain silent at all. Do you think those cops had some kind of magical powers to invoke his vocal cords into action? The reason he was in the room for questioning was because he'd made a deal with them and agreed to go there to be questioned- thinking he'd receive a coke and butterfinger for his compliance.
1 likePerhaps you should scroll up and watch the video above in case you'd accidentally watched something else.
@Mishel R. If you truly are a professional as you claim to be, I'd highly recommend you making less assumptions in your line of work than you've made with me. You've said my words don't fit his profile, and I'm saying they do, yet all you can offer to back up your claims is that I have "bad blood against junkies", based on?
1 likeYou see, some of my best friends literally are or have been "junkies", while many others I've known and loved have died from heroin use. Being a good friend, I try to be as real and honest with them as I possibly can and hope it's enough to save their lives. Sugarcoating or denying certain truths would only lead to me feeling as if I hadn't done my best to catch someone who's in the middle of a free fall.
Jeff 's profile is of one who seeks to self-pleasure as much as possible, while sacrificing as little as possible in the short term future. Part of the reason you stand up for him is because you find his behavior stimulating or perhaps even clinically fascinating. But this won't help Jeff. Even if Jeff does meet the right person who isn't afraid to be honest with him, he'll still likely die an early death while hurting many people along the way.
Jeff knows this fact better than either you or I, but likely will never change his self-pleasuring/self-preserving course as it simply wouldn't fit his psychological profile that you have studied and promoted with all of your educational background and professional diligence.
EDIT: I'm sorry if my amateur opinion doesn't sit well with you, but just wanted to let you know I'd prefer you spare me the details of your professional qualifications and would rather appreciate something that resembles a logical explanation for your response.
@Rick the Swift Holy shit Rick how about finding a friend or two instead of writing dozens of paragraphs on Youtube of complete and utter fucking insanity?
6 likesI'd rather have a beer with Jeff than a guy like you, dude.
Rick the Swift .....I completely agree with your analysis of this clip. Right or wrong, at least your response is well articulated and not overly showy or even slightly rude. I would rather have a coffee w/ you, I think our “stories” would make for a fascinating afternoon. Not that you need or probably care, but I stand with your take on this clip. Best wishes
1 like( watch how fast the vitriol starts). Lol
Ok, lesson learned. If I’m ever arrested for anything, ask for an attorney and literally say nothing else until I get one. Got it.
0 likesRule #1
0 likesthe only word that comes out of your mouth is "Lawyer"
Cop asks: How you doing today?
Your Response: "Lawyer"
Cop: Why do you need a lawyer?
Your Response: "Lawyer"
Anything else... A N Y T H I N G
will be construed to hurt you in any way imaginable.
You say "the weather is beautiful"
They WILL use that against you. They WILL figure out a way.
They will also make up shit, and they are legally allowed to lie their asses off to you, and they will lie on the stand, under oath.
Go to your local courthouse and just watch this shit. It is insane.
I heard a DA say "I know your client is innocent, but I have a 99% conviction rate. Do you want to take that chance?"
He asked for a lawyer. Period. They should not have questioned him any further
0 likesMan I wish Jeff made it but i know what hes up against man
0 likesMakes you wonder how many innocent people are sitting in prison right now because they didn't have Jeff's awareness of the situation
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In countries where a civil jury gets to decide, definitely a lot.
27 likesHe’s actually a pro
3 likesOver 60% of incarnated Americans never went to trial and instead took plea bargains. Meaning instead of Fair Trial their Freedom was decided upon by pre court negotiation between cops and prosecutors and under resourced, over burdened, unmotivated Public Defenders. In USA you are fighting for your Freedom everytime you interact with Law Enforcement. By the design of the US Legal System, there are NO Good Cops.
50 likes@Jericko Doggo Absolutely!! The U.S. is only 4% of the world's population but we have MORE prisons than ALL countries COMBINED!!!! Very alarming!! More than half of all prisoners are caged for non violent, victimless crimes!! Let My People Go!!! Not only back to work but out of the filthy jails where they are held after being kidnapped, persecuted relentlessly by our government oftentimes in the opposition of truth to feed the monstrous prison industry that preys on the poor of society
20 likesLmao "I'll tell your p.o. up u helped me out" "....that..doesn't mean dick"
15 likes@Teresa Lynn let your people go? We should put everyone in the country into prison so that even the wealthy can see what it is truly like and change will occur. I feel like everyone should be put into prison for a minimum of 25 years and a max of 254 years, depending on age of course.
1 likeIf you’re in that room. Their intention is to lock you up. Facts be damned.
8 likesWay too many! It's not problem about "Jeff's awareness ". It's about police trying to push people into admitting to crime whether or not they did it or they not. Police don't care about truth. They just won't one little "+" for solving a crime! They really don't care even if they have completely innocent man and they know that, but when they have junkie as Jeff is they going in total "feeding frenzy" mode. 99% of them assume if someone is heroin addict (or an addict of any kind) he had do many crimes in his "career". Many of that coming from well accepted prejudice that junkies are all at least petty criminals and if they rot in jail it would be good for society. I mean I don't know if Jeff is guilty or not. And I know that many junkies are in did petty criminals, but this is not way system should work. I know that idea coming from good intentions "If someone is quality and there is no enough evidence... try to talk him into confessing to the crime." But that grows in something really weird and sick. When you have police persuading people into to confess to crime they didn't commit and they (police) feel good and get rewarded about it. Don't care much about fucking true! that is a big problem. Ouh, If Jeff is in Serbia there would be no filming and there wild be a lot of beating! So i'm not sure Jeff would stay "anti hero" or lying in jail for crime he maybe did not committed!
2 likesAmerican prisons are a business. Businesses need workers and the more workers, the better the profit.
5 likesus is the country with the most prisoners from 1st world countries lol freedom my ass
0 likes“ I know you did it!!!”
0 likes“How?”
“I don’t have to say 🤐”
goddamn, jeff is a true badass
0 likes"No, usually I'm the prick!" "You look like a prick!" ... too funny ... sorry, could not help to see humor in it ...
1 like“Wham bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell”
1 likeCops: “You have the right to remain silent”
3884 likesJeff:
Cops: “What sort of sorcery is this?”
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😂😂😂
24 likesI am absolutely fucking dead bro I read this comment as soon as that was going on and I couldnt stop laughing for at least 5 minutes
44 likeslmfarotf
4 likesLmao🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
6 likesHahah im dying rn thank you
3 likesHahahaha
3 likesI usually hate these screenplay format comments but I gotta give you props on Jeff's lack of dialogue on this one
8 likes😂😂😂
0 likesLEGEND!!!
0 likesMe: ok
0 likesLOL right??
3 likesCops; Damn, apparently he was casting some kinda dark magic spell called the "paying attention" spell... we gotta figure out how to get past that... I mean goddammit, those rights are for US to cover OUR asses with by reading them out loud while he stares in a nonspecific direction and drools on himself! He's not supposed to actually listen and USE them! How does he expect us to illegally finger him if he actually USES the rights?? This ain't how it's supposed to go, this all topsy-turvy!
@Gabriel done
0 likesexactly my thought, jeff ain't stupid
0 likesJeff got game !!!
0 likessomeone give this man a coke
2 likesEpic comment. Might need to borrow that for one of my books.
0 likesHahah brilliant
0 likes3:55 the kid's smile haha
0 likesCrazy how you can get away with this in Cali but they prosecute this hard a couple states away
0 likesWhenever i wanna feel like a bad bitch, i try to think like jeff
0 likesJeff's tactics works on interrogator to bring him coke .. 2 times !! A master at work :)))
0 likesWhy were his repeated requests for a lawyer ignored? Legally, shouldn't all interrogation cease until that request has been fulfilled?
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yes if he asks for a lawyer he has to have access to one. even in the case where he can’t afford one they have to provide counsel if he asks for it
137 likesNot technically. Itll be a long response but there is a loophole to it, how he phrased his question and even his silence can still be used as an admission of guilt.
18 likes@NaySay Network even if he’s guilty he has the right to a lawyer. so i don’t see what your getting at there’s no “loophole” to him not getting a lawyer. if you mean something different can you please clarify further.
118 likes@NaySay Network as wee as silence isn’t a pay to prove guilt in court
8 likes@NaySay Network Uhm no. There’s not a loophole. If a person asks for their lawyer, the interview/ interrogation stops until a lawyer is present. Period, and by law. Guilty or innocent, no one should talk to cops without a lawyer
70 likes@NaySay Network nonsense, you have a right to remain silent under your right against self incrimination and exercising that right cannot be construed as an admission of guilt. The constitution is clear and the precedent is strong.
49 likescops have a good knack for not consistently following the rules
35 likesYou'd hope so.
1 like@NaySay Network silence cannot be used as an admission of guilt, that would go directly against the 5th amendment
30 likesEx cop and ex jailer here. They can ask for a lawyer, and you have to end it. He did not ask for lawyer at first meeting-- they said he was under arrest and he said, Take me to my cell... Prisoner can ask to meet again, which happened to get a coke. He asked for lawyer in second meeting and it ended. But it may be a day or two to get a free lawyer. But then the prisoner can rescind and ask to speak the cop, which happened only so he could get his coke. But the cop had to try to get him to agree to waive his rights before starting over. Which he tried, but got schooled by Jeff. This went along fairly smoothly. The one time Jeff opened up and was yacking about his friend's dog and going out side and seeing cops, the cop stopped Jeff and tried to read the rights. So...?
29 likesUnless he recanted his request for a lawyer.
0 likesIt's about phrasing. "I want a lawyer." won't fly.
0 likes@NaySay Network what? If he asks for a lawyer they have to stop and get him one or at least counsel. Silence and phrasing of the question is not admission to guilt
3 likesUnless he agrees to continue without one, which he did in exchange for coke and butterfingers.
0 likesSaying “I SHOULD ask for a lawyer” and “I want a lawyer and will not speak until I meet them” even if it seems dumb are somehow considered two completely different statements and they capitalized on him
2 likes@Will Mccauley exactly. Interrogators are super smart and will twist your words to either get a confession, whether it's true or not, or they will gain an advantage over you
2 likes@JustKeith You can't "try to get" someone to agree to waive their rights, that's literally coercion and any lawyer worth his weight in salt would get it thrown out without much more effort then the words 'motion for dismissal' coming out of his mouth.
0 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Which would be construed as coercion, which is also against the law. LoL
0 likes@clifton james No, they will not twist your words. A clear, uncoerced confession with a signature is literally the only thing that holds up in court. Even telling suspects "your cooperation will look good" has gotten confessions straight up thrown out.
0 likesThe amount of ignorance in these threads is fucking hilarious.
@Donnie Gnar incorrect, requiring specific phrasing would be prejudiced. it's clear he is requesting a lawyer.
0 likesLOL you think they're all on speed dial ready to JUMP when notified ?
0 likesHE has/had the right to remain silent---did he ?
@Darth Obscurity Every cop tries to get you to waive your rights and give a confession. You have no idea about this subject.
0 likesPeople in comments here have no clue about how the law actually works.
0 likesI never defend any of the people in the videos, their crimes are insane. However, it's always funny to see a guy give it straight back to the detectives and their mind games.
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He’s the one exception where I feel at least sympathetic idk if he committed armed robbery but he seems more like the friend that gets themselves into trouble vs the school shooter or the woman who murders people cuz crazy. Even if he did commit armed robbery he seems noticeably not malicious in nature by how he acted in the interview. And if he did it it seems like something he would do if he was maybe messed up on drugs and confused or something he did cuz he needed money. I can just see this guy isn’t a mean person by nature at least yeah he is a drug addict but that’s something that’s hard to quit
329 likes@I’mActually Not a furry and he didn’t hurt anybody
122 likesThat's the street school
6 likesI get the impression that if this guy went clean for a few years he could wind up writing, directing, and acting in some knockout Hollywood movies.
102 likesSame the only guy I defend is from the guilty until proven innocent bc he was obviously innocent
8 likesHe has cleaned up from hard drugs as far as I know and is making videos/music on his youtube channel
32 likes@Medahlian Got a link?
3 likes@I’mActually Not a furry its also refreshing after seeing countless idiots not call for a lawyer yet this guy does the right thing for himself and doesn’t dig a massive hole
37 likes@I’mActually Not a furry for me,even if he did it wouldnt matter.Because when you are an addict,you a victim.You need help,and he needed help 11 years ago when he started using till the day that he stopped.Addicts shouldnt just be placed in a cell doing life,they should get the help they deserve.Because no matter what you do as a state to a drug addict,he is already inside his own prison.And its not easy to get out
28 likesIt seems like the only crime this dude committed was to himself -- drug addiction is pretty awful thing; if he hasn't gotten help yet, he should and I hope he does
10 likes@WarlordofBritannia he is clean now. He didnt go to prison for the robbery, however he did go to prison for 2 years for violating probation. He doesnt mention when he decided to get clean tho
4 likeshey i remember you from other videos xD
0 likeswho cares what you think
0 likesI don't think it's funny at all.
1 like@br0z. the police actually need him to aknowledge his rights so they can lock him up, he played it well
3 likesdamn right lol
0 likes@Fishman Might want to ask the victim how they felt about having a gun pointed at them thinking he/she might die.
1 likeyou dont defend even the wrongly accused ones?
2 likes@protoMario agreed 👍🏾
0 likesEven the innocent people??
1 likeI’m not advocating adopting a criminal mindset...but the average person on the street would be doing themselves a huge favor if they spent a little time studying a devoted, lifetime criminals approach to dealing with law enforcement. You see, the average person operates under the delusion the cops are their friends, people who have been sent out to do a service to the public. The average person believes that law enforcement officers do what they do as a service to them. This could not be further from the truth.
3 likesSure, if you’re a cop caller...or have a delusional belief about cops being your friend...you might find yourself in a position to benefit from cooperating with them and/or helping them take control of the situation and it’s outcome. This, however is not proof that their intent, or motivation , is to do this as a service to you.
Police have only one primary motivation...and everything they do in their capacity as law enforcement...is driven by this motivation. The primary motivation of law enforcement is to find any reason they can to justify stripping you of any agency over your own life.
The police do not serve you, they serve the system. They do not give a shit about doing what is in the public’s best interests...they only care about the systems interests.
What system? The system of control which has the authority to completely take over your life and your ability to decide what is best for you and society as a whole.
Law enforcement has become a militarized arm of the government which has been given the mandate to conduct operations on behalf of the government against the public. Police officers are not trained to see themselves as working for you in service of your best interests. They are trained to see everyone as a potential criminal and if they make contact with you, it is as an agent of a system that sees your sovereignty as a threat. If a cop stops you to find out what you are doing or why you are doing it, they have already decided that you could be a criminal and will treat you as such. They do not care about making society a safer place, they care about maintaining the systems control over society.
This means that when a cop is questioning you about your activities, they are looking for proof that their suspicion about you being a criminal is correct. They do not care if you are guilty or inocent...they have already decided that you are doing something which justifies the system taking control of your life. They have already decided that you should not have the freedom to go about your business and that it is their duty to interfere with and stop you from making your own decisions about what is acceptable behavior.
Why is it important to realize this? Because until you realize this you will continue to hold the delusional belief that you can explain yourself to the police and convince them that there is nothing wrong with what you are doing and more over that they have no reason to interfere with your affairs. Until you realize this you will continue co operating with the police, thinking that this is in your best interests when in fact the only thing you are doing is giving them more “evidence” they can work with to justify arresting you and placing your future in the hands of the system.
There is only one course of action when a cop has made contact with you. Keep your mouth shut. Only do what the law requires you to do. This means if you live in a state with laws that give the police the right to compel you to identify yourself, then do so and nothing more. If you live in a state with that laws that force the police to have enough evidence of a crime to detain you before having the ability to demand identification. Then only ask them if you are being detained, and if they say yes, ask for what. Then shut your fucking mouth.
Unfortunately, in the militarized culture of American law enforcement...which sees you as its enemy...many cops view any challenge to their authority as a threat and it has become more and more common for police to justify taking violent action against someone for simply refusing to identify themselves when they are under no obligation to do so. Unfortunately many American law enforcement officers are either ignorant of the laws which govern their interaction with the public, or they operate under the grossly mistaken belief that their own personal suspicion is equivalent to probable cause.
It is because of this that one must be careful to read each interaction with an officer and base their decisions on how to interact with them upon. Their assessment of the officers level of hostility and delusions of authority. It’s better to hand over an id and live than assert your right to refuse I’d and die.
To combat this epidemic of out of control officers who labor under delusions of being all powerful and having unlimited authority over the public, I suggest all of us begin wearing cameras whenever In public which live stream our public activities to a cloud based file storage platform. Only by exposing the police for their violation of the very laws they are supposed to uphold, will we be able to generate enough awareness in the public to force the governments hand and demand that they call off their dogs.
This is the only way we will return the police to their intended role as public servants who act in the public’s interests and strip them of their role as soldiers fighting a war against the public.
burglary is insane? Uhhh...nah, that's a pretty common crime
0 likesMy point is this guy clearly isn’t some kind of vicious psycho path even if he committed armed robbery he probably had no plans of actually shooting anyone if they didn’t comply he just isn’t some kind of psycho murderer he’s a unlucky drug addict
0 likes@Jah Read yo that was interesting to read, thx
0 likesDetective doesn't care how quick witted the suspect is, it's the suspect who has the chance of going to prison
0 likesJeff is already the smartest guy we’ve seen in this channel by immediately asking for a lawyer
193 likesI love this guy. He’s half dead and still more alive than most of the people I’ve ever met.
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In the sense that he accepts his self perpetuated fate with a nihilistic attitude? Or because he’s scornful in the face of his inevitable judgement? Those are almost the same, but I’d like to hear your articulation what justifies this timeline of cause and effect
17 likesHe does have a funny rhetoric, but anybody can say funny shit in a situation like this. As long as their detached from reality in a certain amount.
13 likesLogan Harris he’s not detached from reality, especially as the interview progresses. Heroin has a short half-life and when your rock bottom and broke you are no longer ‘getting high’ you’re simply trying to not be sick.
36 likesBut the main point is when you start withdrawl, not only are you removed from any ‘haze’, but actually end up with hyper-active senses; all are intensified, and not in a good way (initially). So, by the end of (and during) his awareness of was actually heightened compared to the Avg person.
Lastly, jeff knows exactly who he is.his horrible sickness that leads to horrible faults is the objective truth and he accepts this. You mentioning words like judgement and nihilism giving off the strong impression that you’re implying the Abrahamic God is somehow a missing key factor. Maybe I’m wrong and I can stand to be corrected..but if I’m right, I’d first like to say it is irrelevant and furthermore, baseless (I acknowledge the creator and not an atheist fwiw) in this situation. And I’m def not implying he’s a good person or that the crimes he commits in fear of terrible sickness are somehow a lesser crime or bad action.
All I’m saying here is he seems to have a lot more philosophical substance than you credit. And I certainly don’t know where you get ‘nihilistic attitude’ from, as opposed to someone seeped so deep in the most physically addictive substance and rather than deny the size of the problem he fully understands and acknowledges the severity of the problem....which coincidentally almost all addicts in the downward spiral fail to do...AND is the 1st and biggest step of treating the sickness;not just identifying a problem but the literal severity.
Rufus St. Hubbins thank you, I find your comment interesting and worth reflecting on, although I’m going to have to research the “heightened senses” symptom myself. Also, when I said Judgement and Nihilism earlier above, I only meant he seemed to appear rather flippant with the officers while he underwent due process (or Judgement)
8 likesAnd an elephant that doesn’t forget... to kill!
0 likesLogan Harris thanks for the thoughtful response. I am speaking from not only someone who has went through addiction, recovery, but now actually works in the field.
18 likesLet me elaborate on the heightened senses because empirical data may not emphasize the hyperactive senses to the degree of which it actually entails.
Let me explain it in perhaps a more relavant way; when you are steeped in a drug like heroin for yrs/decAdes/etc you are essentially numbing all pain receptors, as well as plethora of other receptors that basically puts you in a bubble of emptiness for the entire duration. Yet the addict preserves because he’s trapped in a security blanket that numbs feeling...And now imagine your supply is cut off from a short half-life drug..it’s like ripping off a bandaid that covers your whole body, where heroin was the bandaid and now within hours you now feel everything all at once. This completely shocks the body and puts you Into a hyperactive paranoid state mentally and physically all the while knowing in your mind it’s only going to get exponentially worse and worse as time goes on. The amount of hyper sensitivity is also directly related to duration of use. Hopefully that makes some sense.
good comment.
3 likesGawd dang Rufus . . . you just made my whole day!! So glad you decided to chime in, your statement is so well versed, insightful, intelligent & just plain cool. Really glad I scrolled down on this one💕 Wishing you a lovely day & many blessings💋
4 likesI think he just understands his rights.
3 likes@rufus st hubbins I read your comments, and although it appears you may have an over-tendency at times to engage in religious debate when one has not been warranted, which can be somewhat deafening to your own cause IMO, I can also respect and appreciate what you've said regarding the effects that withdrawal can produce having been an addict for most of my own life. And while I've probably snorted enough opiates in my day to have put down a train car of mules, I have never considered my self to be "steeped" in the opiate addiction as you have discussed. And while I also agree with much of what you say, having attended many re-hab type classes myself, I would like to point out that in fact many heavy-use addicts understand that their sickness and feeling of pain and despair will eventually pass without further use of substance.
2 likesI just wanted to challenge what you've said regarding the feelings an addict endures when you said, "it’s like ripping off a bandaid that covers your whole body, where heroin was the bandaid and now within hours you now feel everything all at once. This completely shocks the body and puts you Into a hyperactive paranoid state mentally and physically all the while knowing in your mind it’s only going to get exponentially worse and worse as time goes on."
You see, I believe it's this false feeling of "knowing" what is to come that causes many addicts to stray from sobriety and fix their problem with another dose. And while we may 'think' that the feelings of despair, sickness and pain will continue to become exponentially worse as time goes on, what really happens is that our feelings of withdrawal only continue to get worse for 'some' time, and then those feelings will in fact pass as long as the addict can remain clean for a long enough period of time. This in fact is what the addict must "know" if they are to get past their moments of despair without resorting to getting high. We must "know" that we can in fact exponentially get better/feel better as time goes on without use of drugs, and that only for a relatively short amount of time will we feel exponentially worse.
Hope that makes some sense.
Hooray for the smackhead!
0 likesJewels inSD okay then. What exactly did you hope to achieve with that comment?
1 likeRufus St. Hubbins thanks. I was struggling to find the words for what I meant. It’s not a simple thing to describe, and people tend to get a bit touchy about addiction and drugs.
2 likesKing Bloo he’s just a human being, like you, but with a lot more wisdom, earned through pain you probably couldn’t comprehend.
4 likesSad people you met ^^
0 likesYeah and if he's this smart on heroine, he must be a freaking genius! Jeff stop the heroine!
0 likesRufus St. Hubbins two intellectual juggernauts, steeped in pontification, musing over the banal tribulations of an interrogation video of a recalcitrant heroin addict is quite a volley to witness...
2 likesryanrobin12 almost all of the words you used in that sentence were used incorrectly. I don’t think you should be feeling smug.
0 likes@CitizenSnips thanks for the typing lesson don't remember asking but ok. Obviously you got what I ment so I will remain smug. Your welcome for making you feel superior for typing errors after 20 mins of what you had on me. Nice
0 likesThat Guy I didn’t say typing errors. I’m saying you don’t know what the words you used actually mean.
1 like@CitizenSnips I do and you do as well so...why you buggin? That's all you have. How I word things. Petty really. Anyway you are wasting your time I don't feel your clever so
1 likeThat Guy 😂
0 likesThat Guy I just noticed I didn’t even reply to you. You’re complaining about a reply to someone else. You high?
2 likes@ryanrobin12 I think you like to use obscure words to feel superior. Sad.
0 likesHooray for the bag head
0 likesThese are mere tests to make you give up on a fellow man and when you do you will Pay handsomely no ones better than anyone else
You reap what u sowe don't sell ur self for a imagined future u will get what u eadned
I have heard about this guy and had to come and check out the video based on people talking about Jeff
0 likesWell he did rob someone, so no he isnt
0 likes@Rick the Swift intravenous dope addicts, typically swirled with a somewhat frequent methadone consumption, can experience awful withdrawal symptoms for well over a month. I dont know many heavy users who could/would ride out these withdrawals even though they knew they eventually would subside. Light to moderate users, maybe.
1 like@Del Squacho FPV True that. I have a friends who were a couple and are still alive today, who were both on the verge of death from their intravenous use. They'd be so high, we'd think they were constantly going to choke on their own saliva. Often my buddy would lay in the shower for hours when he was having withdrawal. Their breaking point came when she almost died from o.d., while he was in another state getting the shit kicked out of him and left for dead in a dumpster by some dudes he thought he was buying from but ended up robbing him. When they came to their senses, they realized their 3 year old daughter had been taken away due to their neglect, and it was then they decided to commit to the help they needed for their daughter's sake, and to keep from going to prison. I'm sure it was an all out battle for them, just like climbing Mt. Everest is for the few who are dedicated. I agree too that sadly most heavy users won't likely have the mustard or discipline it takes to endure that kind of pain.
1 like@Rick the Swift yeah man.... it is so fucking brutal. The media has so poorly portrayed dope addiction as some sort of thrill seeking type thing, rather than the mere struggle for moment to moment survival that it truly is. Congrats on your sobriety, brother. We gotta keep vigilant!!!
0 likesWe could all learn a lil something from Jeff ✌
2 likesryanrobin12 the fact that you find self-wit in that mocking tone is shitty. I do hope you never have to go through anything like this.
1 likeSo far, Jeff is pretty smart.
1264 likesBe like Jeff, kids. Never talk to cops without lawyers.
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But Mom, Jeff killed 39 people
24 likesMy kid read your comment, now he's addicted to heroin and coca-cola, THANKS A LOT BRIGIDA
18 likes@R G you're welcome
1 likeHe knows that because he's been through the process before... being a criminal and all.
0 likesBut dont do heroin, kids
1 likeOr better yet, just don't become drug addicts or commit crimes.
1 likeBe like Jeff but also don't.
2 likesDon't commit crimes then you won't need lawyers.
0 likes@GarrisonFall you must either believe in the automatic assumption of guilt or that all humans are infallible. Just because you need a lawyer to competently defend your rights and your innocence doesn't mean you are guilty.
0 likesThis is hands down the smartest suspect I’ve ever seen on video. He doesn’t fall for any of the police question traps and asked for an attorney early on. Darn good for a heroine addict
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To be fair, he’s been through the system multiple times. Probably knows most tricks, maybe watched some videos or something.
18 likesYet they never gave him a lawyer and kept questioning him
0 likesLife is horrible. But when Jim uploads it’s slightly less horrible.
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Definitely made my day! <3
5 likessome people live paycheck to paycheck. we live JCS upload to upload
31 likespreach brother
4 likesHell yea!
1 likeCheers, buddy. Have a beer & let the horrible day melt away.
1 likethat ironic
0 likesI agree with the second sentence. Sorry things are rough for you, but you really can turn it around!
1 likeShit when Jim uploads it might even be bearable for a bit
1 likeDont say that to yourself. Believe me, you will be more happy.
3 likesLove the profile picture! Layne Staley is great :)
3 likes@ChompGod ...You meant "my day" right? :) Only JCS could say if it was made by day or night or whenever.
0 likesWhile JCS uploads are a welcome blip on the flatline of most day-to-day, most of the time it means we get to find out what is more horrible out in the world to show us. (Yeah; as I think someone described: ironic.)
0 likesAmen
1 likefax yo
0 likesWhat’s horrible about life?
0 likesLife is only horrible if your attitude has decided that it is.
2 likesYes because when you try to understand rationally the psychologie of a human being you know how to avoid problems and maybe tragedies for you and your entourage. Thank you Jim for your very instructive lessons ! ^^
1 likeBuddy, life is not worthless.
1 likeAmen to that Brother.
1 likeAmen, wolfSpeider!
0 likesYes
0 likesyes
Best comment
0 likes@Wolfe- I miss Layne.
0 likesYou are a true philosopher. At least in the comments section of YouTube.
0 likesListening to Alice In Chains can brighten your day.
1 likeWolfeSpeider you all should checkout the channel The Chapter, the guy who makes the videos is Mike
0 likesY’all need help someone to talk to
0 likesJeff is probably the most likeable suspect I’ve ever seen. I really hope he is doing well.
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I like you more. I hope you are happy in your life.
149 likesFacts
7 likes@Ezra The Human you're wonderful, Ezra!
53 likes@Joe Schmo he may be but he has charm and that's all you really need to get people on your side
63 likeshi there I must lack Charm
6 likesI had a friend that was very similar in attitude to Jeff. While being very frustrating to be around at times, I don't think I ever would have learned how to grow a spine if it weren't for him. He had a LOT of medical problems and a drinking problem, but he was the best friend someone could ask for. Unfortunately he died 2 years ago.
80 likesJoe Schmo he’s joe mama
4 likesDreamflying153 RIP to him
16 likes@Bobby Sands Thank you. I miss him, but he was in a lot of pain and I'm glad he's not anymore.
18 likes@Dreamflying153
21 likesWow this dude reminded my friend that passed away 3 years this November. He was a miserable shit but he still had heart deep down n was such a character. He actuallh passed away from fentanyl od 1 day after being clean for a year
@Dreamflying153 RIP to your friend man
8 likes@D G Damn, I'm sorry for your loss. Addiction is tough shit to deal with, and its really hard seeing friends struggle with it.
9 likesI wish there was an update
4 likes🙋🏼♀️🙋🏼♀️i wish him well too, the fact that it is about robbbery not murder or rape🙏
7 likes@Dreamflying153 Rest in peace to your friend. I too had a male.friend like that not heard from him in 2 years I fear hes passed away in prison or still doing what he does
2 likesAnyone know what happened to him?
0 likesJenson hey! Click the link 2 above. He posted last week!
0 likesMirel Zamora So awesome! Thank you! I actually really like his music.
1 likeWow, I’m glad you and I aren’t friends.
0 likes@Dreamflying153 aw that sucks man, I'm so sorry. I hope you're doing well
1 likeJunkies are usually good ppl unless they need dope .
1 likeSame. 🤷🏻♀️
0 likes^^you're a bunch of crooks. lol let's see you not change your mind when you actually meet this dude
0 likesIll g3t myself lately coz its already been said when i calm down not now thou but i may as well tell him im not coming to jag
0 likes@Joe Schmo says a lot about you, when more people like him and what he has to say than you.
0 likes@Dustin Sudbrink He was, thank you.
0 likes“Why should I have to tell you the evidence that determines how you spend the next 15-20 years of your life?”
0 likesThis is a form of torture. They let they waiting there for 2,5 hours. Is there a legal time limit that the person can stay on the interrigation chmaber? I mean IMm totaly fine when the person is guilty but when the person is not guilty its a real sad thing
0 likesSo hang on ..you have the right to remain silent...definition of silent..no noise..so why do cops get agitated and annoyed when you remain silent as is your right...
0 likesJeff murdered his family about a year later and is on death row
1 likeAlthough fictional I would love to hear your perspective on Tony soprano
0 likesno evidence, just wanted to bash someone into confessing... bravo.... anti hero with a badge
0 likesI don't know Jeff, but he is almost without question, in prison.
0 likesThis is the longest coke ad that I've seen
3 likes"So what's your name?"
1 like"My name is Jeff"
I Salute Jeff✊🏿
0 likesThat's officer just VIOLATED HIS RIGHT ,...he said he wanted a lawyer the officer keep asking questions
0 likesJeff should be a cop.
0 likes1 police officer - let me read your rights... "you may stop talking when...."
2 Jeff - mute as a wall....
3 police officer - come on man you need to tel me what happened tell me your version
4 Jeff - mute as a wall.....
Heroin doesn't make you stupid.... just out of the normality.
This is the second best case I watched today 👏👏👏
"Wham, bam, thank you for the Coke, put me back in the cell." lmao
0 likesDo they give a person any type of meds going through withdrawals while in jail? Can a person die free withdrawals?
0 likesYou ain't getting no dam confession out of me
0 likesThanks for the coke
- Jeff
Jeff's a mood
1 likeJeff wasn't a legend. he was a person that understands you don't f**king talk no matter what. you have the RIGHT to remain silent!!
0 likesI'm pro Jeff unless he actually hurts someone. If he is doing 15 hope he got that butterfinger
0 likesSo what was Jeff's final outcome?
0 likesI like Jeff I hope he at least had a happy ending
0 likesEver acknowledge that you understand your rights. They they can't question you. They have to get you an attorney.
0 likesThat’s just made me really want a coke and I don’t even like the stuff. Should be illegal to interview someone when they’re withdrawing from heroin or any other drug. And they should sort a doctor as soon as someone mentions meth-done and not play dumb like he’s gonna have a regular doctor or afford healthcare in America…
0 likesI love this guy
0 likesThis detective needs to get him his methadone
0 likes“Wham bam thank you for the coke”
2 likes"Wham bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell" 🤣
0 likes"The only reason I came up here was to get a coke." 😂
0 likesOh damn y’all, im worried about jeff, hes a good guy, legend has it he knows the secret coke recipe, an wont tell no gd body, cause thats who jeff is. 🤣
0 likesMan was suffering from withdrawal and still came out like a gigachad.
0 likesWe’ve studied the art that’s Jeff me and my 2 children 😂😂😂
0 likesLegend
"Wham, bam, thank you for the coke. Put me back in the cell"
0 likesI can’t talk to you since you asked for a lawyer… continues to talk to him.
0 likesso fucking satisfying seeing someone use their rights they are read AHAHAHA
0 likesBoy I'm so glad I clicked on this video
1 likeAfter he asked for a lawyer the questioning should of stopped
0 likesThe Justice system is in dire need of reform. Has been for decades. There are behaviors that stem from a health condition that are criminalized by the system. We need to break these tabboos because that's just plain wrong.
0 likesCop: “You have the rights to remain silent, do you understand?”
1596 likesJeff:
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Oh jeff
15 likesCop: No, this isn’t how you play the game.
44 likes@DeathnoteBB yea you got it
1 likeTelling him it’s in his best interest to talk to them is kinda sketchy
0 likesWorth watching more than once. Can’t help but like the guy.
0 likesBottom line I don’t feel anything for arm robbers
1 like"You look like a prick."
0 likesTHIS 🤩 IS JEFF 😁👍
If you ever end up in an interrogation room, be like Jeff.
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Yep. Don't say shit, don't sign shit.
156 likesJust ask for a lawyer.
@Martin S. damned skippy! I just love the way he buttoned right up when the cop read him his rights lmao!!
35 likesExactly. No matter what. And I hope everyone hears that.
48 likesEspecially young kids.
@Luna EB lmao
4 likesMartin S. Amen
1 likeor your clever enough to outsmart the cops with youre story good together knowing what to say and play on their humanity works also pretty fine. cause mostly cops have still humanity within them
6 likes@Stouthuyzen Bob i douvbt the last part
15 likes@Stouthuyzen Bob In an interrogation, the cops aren't your friends, they're trying to crack you. A cop that's too nice to let their suspect off the hook would be off the force. It's nothing personal, it's their job, but that means you gotta do your best to keep quiet.
30 likes@Stouthuyzen Bob
15 likesI just can't believe that you could be THAT naive. Or... Are you being sarcastic?
@Judita you got m ;-)
0 likesMinus the whole admitting to taking heroin thing. And basically everything else he said.
2 likes*if you ever talk to a cop, be like jeff
3 likesWouldn't having evidence of saying yes to something pretty much be "signing" something tho?
0 likesExcept maintain eye contact and stay aggressive
1 likeSay even less than Jeff. I want a lawyer is all that should be said. No benefit comes from speaking to the detectives at all.
8 likesEven if you're innocent and think "you have nothing to hide".
@Luna EB Say you count burger for real food? U iz a cat?
2 likesMartin S. Yeah do that so the judge and jury see how u remained silent showing that your guilty
0 likesI would have asked for a pizza too...
1 like@Justin Bohner Not only that but he's withdrawing from heroin. Tell your kids be like Jeff
0 likes@Stouthuyzen Bob I agree until u said they still show a human sign
0 likesshojimujo shojimujo Yeah lawyers tell their clients to remain silent because their guilty. So really your here defending guilty people of crimes and I don’t see why
0 likesWhy are you guys are trying to get people and even children to stay quiet when questioned by the police. You are basically saying its OK to be dishonest and not help the police do their jobs and resolve the case.
3 likes@Jacob Criswell lol Yer because police have never used those tactics to draw a false confession. Police just want to close the case
7 likesDozeMan that’s EXACTLY what I’m trying say
0 likes@Jacob Criswell you need to go and read about people who have been falsely convicted of crimes they didn't commit because of "evidence" they gave detectives during these interrogations. Reality is not everyone can handle it, some people say what the police want to hear to make it go away. Safest option is to not fall into their traps. Recent events show us police kill innocents. Just stay quite and l let your lawyer work it out.
5 likesWhat are you saying that detectives gaslight people and try to force a confession? If your stupid enough to tell the police you did something you didn't do than go right ahead. If I got interrogated I wouldn't give anything but the truth.
2 likes@Jacob Criswell Yer that's exactly what I'm saying. Google "police interrogation false confessions" there's a whole lot of examples out there and a whole lot of scientific papers as to why people confess to crimes they didn't commit. These detectives get it wrong, they believe they have the right man so they use all sorts of psychology tricks. Stay safe people say nothing, especially if you are innocent.
3 likesYou kinda missed the whole point ...
0 likesDozeMan You are so incredibly naive. Life isn’t black and white. So while you are coming clean helping the cops close the case, a politically ambiguous prosecutor may throw as much your way as they can to make a name for themselves. No, even if you are guilty, keep your mouth shut and ask for an attorney!
3 likes@Martin S. and a coke
0 likes@George Fanourakis 🤡 for that one.
0 likesGreat, I'll start doing Heroin now!!
0 likes@Martin S. and say thanks for the coke
0 likes@Jacob Criswell because bad people can where a badge
1 likeAmen
0 likesLITERALLY
0 likesThe only reason he ever engaged with the cops was to get a coke
1 like"Right to remain silent"
0 likesJeff: "Say no more g"
6'5 so 195 cm, 153lbs so 69kg in understandable numbers. This damn outdated imperial system.
0 likesIf you are ever placed under arrest, ask if you are under arrest, then either stop talking, or announce that you're going to stop talking... and then stop talking.
0 likesJust don't talk. Not to the cops. Not to anyone but your lawyer. Co-operate, but don't talk. Don't resist, but don't talk.
Interrogator: "You have the right to remain silent"
3327 likesJeff: "And I took that literally"
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i would😇
6 likesIf you don't speak, they can't entrap you or talk you in circles. The more and longer you speak the more likely you are to talk your way into a corner, if you don't speak at all they can't really ascertain much from you and must rely solely on the evidence before them, which sometimes isn't enough.
52 likes@Majikalis it doesn't, in fact you have a lower chance.
14 likesYou kiddin? They hate having to say that, because that means the suspect might not give them anything
5 likes@Majikalis Abso FUCKING lutely not.
7 likesWe get it, this joke can be copy/pasted into youtube comment sections.
3 likesJesus christ the world is doomed. They literally think the world is based on plagiarism for internet points.
@Majikalis no it’s not 💀 how do you think most rappers get away w shit? A lawyer and not talking 🤷🏻♂️ you don’t cooperate if you’re guilty tf 😂🤦🏻♂️
2 likesI was looking for a comment like this, i was not disappointed
0 likesJAJSJAS
0 likes@Majikalis no, it isn't! Lol
0 likes@Lit af you don't cooperate if your innocent they my physiological corner you
0 likes@Archonach exactly! I've never seen someone talk their way out of a crime. They only talk their way into a conviction.
1 like@Maya yeah it does. There's a reason they say "anything you say CAN and WILL be USED AGAINST YOU.
1 like@Majikalis what?! You better not ever commit a crime! 😆 In the words of my friend Jeff, I'm not talking to you, anything I say can and will be used against me, I want a lawyer and you talking to the prosecutor/parole officer don't mean d!ck, there's no way, I didn't do it!! That should be the ONLY COOPERATION YOU GIVE! Talk to any attorney and the first thing they'll ask is what you told the police followed by the legal advise of don't say anything!
1 like@Majikalis In a perfect world you cooperate but this isn't a perfect world, law can be specially tricky depending on your government but usually cops just wanna put someone in prison and call the case closed, in short...you shouldn't trust anyone blindly even or maybe specially the law, also if they make questions with the intent to incriminate you, you don't have to give an answer at all, by law you don't have to incriminate yourself and your silence CANNOT be used against you as admission of guilt, best thing to do is always stay quiet and get a lawyer, it sounds wrong but that's how it is
0 likes@Majikalis this is a decision you need to make depending on the evidence against you.
0 likesInterrogator: "And I took that personally "
0 likesNot just the adversity that comes w being an addict. But the misery that caused it in the first place. This world is shit. Especially the law enforcement world. They're a bunch of villains themselves - cops, lawyers, judges.
0 likesThese videos make me distrust cops.
0 likeshow many more times did they question him after he asked for a lawyer? they just keep coming back every few hours, reading him his rights again, and giving it another try, pretending as if he never asked for legal council, even though they stated that he had a right to a lawyer each time they insisted on him stating he understands his rights. "yes i understand you are trying to cover all your bases by reading me Miranda, while simultaneously violating my rights guaranteed therein". this happens everyday, guilty or not.
0 likesI just want to somehow find Jeff and give him coke.
0 likesMy guy took “you have the right to remain silent” quite seriously.
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Lmfao watching him ahhhahha
12 likesHe's not your guy, friend.
29 likes@Ben Campbell He's not your friend, buddy.
79 likes@dömp it He s not your buddy, amigo.
52 likesWell the cops say "anything you say can and will be used AGAINST you in a court of law" they don't say "anything you say can and will be used in your favor to help you out"
31 likesSo obviously 🤫🤐
@Ariana's MoonlightBae He’s not your amigo, partner.
37 likes@cloud He's not your partner, man.
32 likes@TheoDrHashiriya he is not your man, mate.
30 likesOh no not this chain again
8 likes@Sacspear he is not you're mate ,dude
28 likes@Kadir Bullang 🤦🏻♀️ruined it
28 likesSearch on YouTube, never talk to the police. It's 11 million views and like 8 years old. It's the classic God tier video on why you don't. Even your grandma wouldn't talk after understanding it.
5 likesThey don't ask if they got proof. Keep your mouth shut.
2 likes@James Mclaughlin Primitive learning if they had anything on you then they wouldn't even bother trying to talk to you period. Never help them cause if you talk then your just f'n yourself in court. Not to mention they will just twist your words and make shit up. They ain't there 4 you!
2 likes@Kevin Brady they might still talk to you just to see if you will dig yourself a deeper hole. Youd be surprised how many times it works.
1 like@Sacspear he's not your mate pal
1 like@Kadir Bullang he's not your gay, straight
2 likes@Squidward he's not your straight, mein Freund
1 like@CREEZ Er ist nicht dein Freund, comrade.
1 likeprobably trying to trick them into hitting him or threatening him so he doesn't get charged
0 likes@kees N1 hes not your nimrod, compadre.
1 like@salma mansour he’s not your biss opossum.
0 likesWell you know, it does say anything you say can AND WILL be used AGIANST YOU. For a heroin addict im surprised he's not acting like a walking dead extra lmao
2 likesLove it
1 likethat’s what I also thought hahaha he straight up serious about it
0 likes@Merc3nery He's not your compadre, home-slice
0 likesOmG great comment @mjbDaBeast. LMAO 👍😂😂🤣🤣
1 likeand so should every person who ever gets interrogated
1 likewheres that butterfinger you said you owe me hahaha this guy is hella legit homie
0 likesJeff has made a couple of videos on what happened on his channel called The Legend of Jeff
0 likesI'm laughing so hard
0 likes"Corporate Marketing Team for Coca-Cola" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 likeJeff may be on drugs, but Jeff is smart... This is what we call street smart.
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Jeff is _intelligent_. That's something else. And it's so sad that we're wasting so many useful lives on the childishness of old male politicians. The stupidity of thinking that the threat of prison can be a deter an addict from using heroin when he's willing to buy mystery powder from an unknown source and inject it into his bloodstream, knowing full well that it might kill him … Difficult to understand that level of stupidity.
144 likesHell yeah
4 likesYep he smart
2 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad he;s too smart for this world I guess and dsnt cares about living anymore and just stops caring about shit
11 likesno we call it jump street smart
2 likes"we" who?
9 likesBe like jeff
8 likes@LiveFastDieYoung street smart folk.
4 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad you have not a single clue my friend
1 like@Jo-Erlend Schinstad im not sure what your point is, it seems as you have a problem with prohibition as do i which is the cause of all the problems surrounding gruds, Not even the death penalty is a deterrent.
11 likesThe only answer is decriminalisation of all gruds including the worst, alcohol instead of ironically selling it in drive throughs.
Firstly a Human being should have the right to do as he pleases with his own body in his own home. So i think we are in agreement there.
My problem is with your statement saying that gruds make you stupid, tyhe only one that probably does is the legal one alcohol.
Opiates do not decrease your intelligence at all, either do they make you behave badly, Maybe alcohol will, but not opiates thats for sure.
Your statement perpetuates the stereotype and prejudice which must stop in order to make progress on this issue.
Unfortunately you only hear from those who use and behave badly then even blame their bad behaviour on the grud instead of taking responsibility.
There are plenty more decent people who use than pos but you will never know bc they dont have nothing to lose like those able to speak.
Its so bad that i have to censor the word gruds or risk having my comment held for review on many channels.
As for injecting an unknown chemical, stupidity is the wrong word. During alcohol prohibition, people used to die from bad manufacturing process's.
If H was decriminalised and regulated, the supply could be regulated and safer.
Another myth is that it is deadly, even if it were, people are allowed to jump out of planes and ride motorcycles.
The fact though is that is is very hard to take a fatal dose of H, most od's also have alcohol and benzos involved.
I would argue that many are suicide in disguise by people being forced to quit by those around them and the feeling like a failure bc they cannot, even after suffering immensely.
Opiate addiction has been with us forever and is here to stay.
We cannot make any progress unless we first stop with the knee jerk comments of prejudice and stereotypes that are wrong, this is the biggest problem and causes stigma of some gruds, there are som many worse gruds both over the counter and on prescription, society is even ok with substituting H for a much worse grud in every way except for this stigma. H should be prescribed using the same infrastructure, this is the only solution.
A person who has an opiate addiction should not have to take risks with an unregulated supply, having said H is an unmistakeable substance.
It may be a surprise for you to learn that there is no long term side effects of using H hygienically.
If you want to ban a white powder that causes the most human deaths ever, ban sugar, its the worst and im not even joking.
If you want more, i have plenty but ill leave it there unless you ask otherwise ill stfu now.
Have a nice day, just please remember that H use and bad behaviour or intelligence have nothing to do with each other at all.
Its just bad people use gruds and are able to talk about it, users are not bad people and must stay in the closet lest lose everything causing the cycle to continue.
I want to break this cycle and maybe lay the framework for change.
See Portugal who have half implemented the solution. , Oregon is on the way.
Not in my life time but eventually there will be change. Look how we use to treat women, and homosexuals. Everyone is human despite their like dislikes, habits, hobbies and preferences does not make them less human, especially if their actions do not harm others.
Today people get upset at second hand smoke from s cigarette in the out doors but happily serve someone a glass or 2 of wine with their dinner at a restaurant. Alcohol is in the same class as the others but is treated differently.
I think the only reason that alcohol is treated this way is bc how easy it is to manufacture from everyday ingredients at home everywhere, its even made in prison using scrap food tray items.
Ok im done die now, or am i? should i still stfu?
@Johnny Star: As for whether or not it is a persons own choice, that is debatable. If you could get a private insurance company to assume the financial risks associated with your addiction, then I might entertain that notion. But I live in a country where that would never happen and where we would never let you be homeless or without medical care or otherwise destitute. One of the reasons for that, is that destitute people have an enormous risk of falling into crime and then we would have to lock you up. We can't first watch as you fall into destitution and hopelessness on your way into crime only to then punish you. We have to step in and give you a chance to recover long before that happens, both for your good and the good of the people. The alternative is completely immoral. But it does cost money and if we're the ones who's paying, then we get a say.
5 likesThe assertion that heroin is not addictive, that there are no long-term effects and that it cannot cause death, is plain stupid. I am not going to discuss that.
NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE -you can be stupid and know that
2 likes@Johnny Star very intelligent comment.
3 likes@M Wallace: You seem very confused. I never said anything remotely similar to what you think I said and your confusion really doesn't affect my education.
1 likeHe's street smart indefinitely. Although to have the cognitive function and nonchalant focus he displayed I'd say he's intelligent in general.
1 likeHe street smarted himself all the way to jail.
4 likeshow is someone who is addicted to drugs street smart?
2 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad I don’t think you understand addiction.
1 like@Cassi Crawford: Why do you say that? Do you seriously believe that the threat of a fine or jail will prevent an addict from using drugs? How hard do you think we should we punish addicts in order to solve their problems? In the Phillipines, the president wants to drop addicts from helicopters and that doesn't cure addiction. How much is enough?
3 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad what? I don’t want to punish addicts. I don’t believe in jail time for using drugs.
1 like@Cassi Crawford: Well, I wrote about the stupidity of politicians who thinks punishment works as a deterrent to drug use and you told me I don't understand addiction. I would assume that you disagree with me.
0 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad oops! I actually am guilty of poor reading comprehension. I thought you were calling Jeff stupid for knowingly injecting unknown drugs! I was so tired and skipped over anything else. I agree completely with your comment lol
1 like@Cassi Crawford: Hehe, that's ok. You're not alone. Several others seem to have made the same mistake. In 1902, Norway decriminalized suicide. You know what that means; at some point, a policitian sat down and thought it was a good idea to criminalize suicide. Like «I want to kill myself, but I can't because I'm too afraid to go to prison». That is the type of stupidity that really boggles my mind.
3 likesA lot of heavy drugs you were servers are believe it or not
0 likes@Jo-Erlend SchinstadCriminalizing suicide is ridiculous! At worst it prompts people to make sure they do a thorough and lethal job the first attempt 😞
1 like@Jo-Erlend Schinstad he is not just samrt he is S mart, groovy ')
0 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad what country do u live in?🧐
0 likes@staunchutefan 😂
0 likes@Jovany Juarez: Norway.
0 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad and you are someone who has noooo clue as to what your talking about the majority of addicts are over intelligent and deeply intellectuals actually. Stop judging and think properly ans clearly before you speak. If you don’t have a clue be quiet
0 likes@Louisette LEveille: You didn't understand what I wrote. I wrote that politicians are stupid for believing that punishment and humiliation solves addiction.
0 likes@Johnny Star having those things legal is questionable. Right now there are many jailed for such things and along with that comes incarceration problems people complain about such as conditions, space, and treatment. What makes you think that all those things will disappear? If anything it'll all go higher and more people will self destruct. Like it or not, people who think they can control themselves with those gruds most likely end up being addicts. You mentioned how it's self responsibility when it comes to that and people should do what they want, so why should there be help/treatment for those who become addicts if it's self responsibility? If that's what they want to do?(I'm not oppose helping, the opposite actually just saying to try to prove a point I suppose) Making gruds like those legal would lower the self responsibility you claim that should arise from that.
0 likes@Emily Rose God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!) 🥰🤍
0 likes@Zunaid Ashraf God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!) 🥰🤍
1 likeCommon if you're trying to start beef with peeps on comment sections for no good reason you prolly too bored
0 likesOr be Bible bashing for that matter.
0 likes@olivia grace hail Satan
0 likesJeff dated my mom and gave her the drugs that killed her lol
0 likes@Regal 1997 : holy fuck dude…
0 likes@Nihl_4_Not ye it’s a really fun story to tell
0 likes@Nihl_4_Not Jeff could be my dad idk. Not on drugs btw imma soon to be lawyer
0 likes@Regal 1997 : laughed out loud huh. Everyone truly handles adversity in such diverse ways
0 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad its not usually an unknown source... A lot of the time word gets around who has good gear.
0 likes@Peanut Reviews you become an addict for many reasons... Some doctors have become addicts.
0 likesIf you think that guy is smart, I've got a bridge to sell you.
0 likes@junkybabes: Having something does not make you the source. And obviously, it's more often the good stuff that kills.
0 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad it gets around users quickly who has the best stuff. Normally entrenched users don't overdose... Its when strength of the gear changes that csuses the problem.
0 likesYou call Him “smart” however, he’s been in and out of jail? That’s not smart, that’s idiocracy and immaturity
0 likesI disagree, this is just what we call smart.
0 likesJeff played a blinder
0 likesHe’s less street smart, than he is arrogant. He’s actually an idiot. Not cooperating just delays the inevitable, it doesn’t get you out of anything.
0 likes@Ben Cheevers: «Street smarts» is just a specific form of wisdom and a drug addict can be very wise, because they experience so many things in life that the rest of us don't. He's clearly quite intelligent, but that doesn't make him smart, because the difference between being intelligent and being smart, is that the smart makes the right choices. You can be as intelligent as humanly possible and still be an addict, but there's no such thing as a smart addict, because the only smart choice when it comes to drug addiction, is to stop being an addict. I think it's very important to understand the difference between intelligence, wisdom and smarts. They are three entirely different things.
0 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad heroin is like signing a contract with Satan it's a whole different ball game of addicting.
0 likesShole is very smart
0 likesi like jeff a lot
0 likes@nos: If you support him on his Patreon, you will be my friend. :)
0 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad he has a patreon? can you link it?
0 likes@nos: I spammed the most liked comments with it in this comment section. I don't remember the address right now. But yes, he was doing well at the time and has a channel with some music he's made and trying to get straight. If you care as much as I do, then you'll just look for it and find my link.
1 like@Jo-Erlend Schinstad oh that's so cool
0 likes@nos: He's not an entertainer. We enjoy one of the worst days of his life. Don't you agree it's only fair that we give a little back to him if we like him and wish him well?
0 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad oh yeah
0 likeshe handles the situation perfectly and i respect him a lot already
@Johnny Star is pretty accurate. The legislation itself is the cause for most of the harm, if not directly, then indirectly (black markets attract unethical businessmen, who sell bad products, while regulated, legal markets have standards). I have a strong dislike for opiates, my bestfriend growing up OD'd 10 years ago... however, I understand that it was the demand of being drug-free that killed him, indirectly. He didn't want to live drugfree. So when pushed into rehab, they just removed his tolerance to it. Gradually improving his quality of life, while teaching him how to gradually spend more and more time off drugs, doing smaller doses, even swapping drug into something else comfortable, but not potentially deadly could have saved him. Legislation doesn't allow this route of action.
0 likes@nos: Well, the only thing I knew how to help him, was to write a bot to spread the word to people who might be willing to help. You throw some bread on the water, you know, you never know what the consequences will be, but it can't be wrong.
0 likesThat's just smart smart. He has enough foresight to know that nothing he says to the police can possibly help him (literally), and his future hangs in the balance.
0 likes@Hazding thanks for sharing that, ive known many dead people that felt like failures due to the opinions of their loved ones and bc they couldn't stop,
0 likesI dont know even 1 person who has used opiates for a decade or more and successfully quit, Actually i lie, i know many but they are no longer alive.
The majority of opiate users must keep it to themselves otherwise they will lose everything , there is absolutely no help for the majority who are good people.
How can they admit to anyone and go to rehab and keep their career and reputation intact, they even risk losing their children.
There is a whole group of users that nobody even knows of.
Lastly ill try to give you a perspective of what it feels like to be a long term user trying to kick this habit.
Imagine being a 30 year old man and having regular sex since being an adult which is most of us.
Now imagine being told by everyone that you are an awful person for doing that and enjoying an orgasm and in order to be part of our society you cannot ever orgasm again. You try your hardest and after a few months, you do it, you feel so ashamed.
There is always going to be a hole missing in this persons life which is very hard to fill with anything else, many would rather not exist at all,
Say what you like, im just trying to help people understand the mindset of an opiate addict. It is of course different for example the whole withdrawal thing but i hope i can provide some sort of facsimile for people to understand.
I also want to people to know that being a user does not lower your intelligence, it may increase your self confidence but it also does not turn you into an immoral criminal, you can not use long term successfully by behaving badly, Most users work hard for their grud which goes on to fund the high up criminal enterprises that we can all say are awful.
For some reason humans want a section of society to hate, there is nobody left but grud users. They are just the same as everyone else, some good, some bad, some poor some rich but whenever they come out the closet, they ruin their lives unless they have ruined it themselves allready.
I really think that most overdose deaths when relapsing are suicides in disguise bc they should know their tolerance is low and it also takes a mega big dose to be fatal, usually over doses are when mixed with other things such as alcohol or benzo's,
I do know that most over dose fatalities are by people struggling with quitting and relapsing so i offer this advice to all, its better to continue being a user than dead. Unfortunately most will say that its better to be dead than be a user. I bet that would be everyone's opinion here.
No a users life is just as valuable as anyone else, it is unfair we must risk our lives daily. I given my first opiate at just 4 years old due to horrific burns and skin grafts. when i became 18, there was a H epidemic in my area and after a stressful period at 18yo i tried it. Along with the normal euphoric feelings everyone gets, i also had a nostalgic feeling that took me back to my childhood. a bit like eating grandmas cookies as an adult for the first time since you were a child.
I have used H since i was 18, i am now 43, i am no criminal, i am a decent person, and you would never know unless i told you which i just did.
Ive been through all of this but if you cannot accept me for who i am i dont want to know you. I do not need to be who you want me to be. Go away from my life if you dont like me. I dont tell you what you can do in your home.
Its not fair that i cannot acquire my stuff safely through legal channels, there is legal methadone but that is very bad for you, so much more addictive and also weakens bones. But i cannot afford to buy the amount of H i need to be ok so i must use methadone 3 times a week to not feel sick. You are supposed to have it every day but i go as long as i can without it. I recently badly broke my leg as it is weaker now due to 5 years of methadone. Nobody has a problem with me destroying my body with this legal opiate, i wish i could just get H on a prescription.
I will be a user for the rest of my life, i accept that and am ok with it.
I have tried quitting before when i was saving for my house but i was so depressed. I had access to all of life's pleasures at my fingertips but nothing makes me feel ok with life. If for some reason H disappeared for a year, i would check out like so many people do.
Like i said, i do not know even one person that is still alive after a decade of use and quit, just many dead people who kept trying, the only way they succeeded in quitting was to die.
Do i deserve to die, i know some here would say yes. but why. Just a few decades ago most of you would say that a homosexual deserves to die if he cant be normal.
Anyway, there is my rant, i hope someone gets a different perspective, just please stop the prejudice stereotypes and discrimination against people you dont know. The guy in the video here represents the minority.
All gruds need to be decriminalised and regulated including alcohol that is sold in drive throughs and kills millions on our roads, Alcohol should be sold discreetly in rations and should only be consumed in your home, Pubs should not exist just like opium dens shouldn't.
While im at it, psychotropics should be available in treatment centres to help people aswell.
There is a way to do it. Not just sell everything in a corner store but set up infrastructure and add it to the cost of said grud. It will still be cheaper and the money wouldnt be funding exotic animal and human trafficing and other awful things these high up ugly people like to do.
Anyway, you do you, BeHave Be good, Be happy, Be alive, You deserve to live. All of you, no matter your hobby or sexuality or gender or whatever it is, as long as you dont harm others you are a good person, but you allready know this. I hope you read this
Jeff got that sugar to help his withdrawals. He wanted that thirty-nine grams.
0 likes@Johnny Star Fentanyl isn't strong because it's extracted from transdermal patches, it's used for transdernal patches because it's so strong. It's a full mu receptor agonist, and had a very high binding affinity with the receptors. That allows it to be incredibly effective in sub milligram doses, hence, transdernal patches are an option.
1 like@Louisette LEveille Just as you have no evidence I won't need any, no most addicts are not overtly intellectual or smart.
0 likesHey all you criminals out there can learn a little something from Jeff.
0 likesI loveeeee the way he said was happin when the cop walked in. Must be the Miami Dade in me 😭
0 likesIf they had any proof at all. Even circumstantial he wouldn't have been released.
0 likesI like Jeff. Hope he is doing better!
0 likes“Do you understand the rights ive read to you?”
10602 likes“No.”
“Huh?”
“Yes.”
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Lmaoo
82 likesI died I am officially deceased😩💀☠️💀
130 likesIt seems they don't mean shit though. He stated multiple times that he wasn't talking and that he wanted a lawyer present, and they spent hours trying to question him without calling a lawyer.
503 likesA good lawyer could certainly use this video in order to discredit all evidence gathered from this interview, since his multiples requests for a lawyer were continually ignored by the officers. Seriously, that is so absurd
@Ivens Pinheiro Ivens well they know he can't afford a good lawyer so they gamble with his situation
125 likesI died at this part lmao
15 likes@Brohvakiin Dova you know their intent?
1 like@Andrew no, it was an assumption given the whole situation... they obviously left him cooking for hours to get anything out of him so it's not a wild assumption in my opinion
65 likes@Junko Enoshima dont bring that tiktok behavior over here
25 likes@JetInk ✨bb it’s been here✨❤️😩🤣
14 likesI do that sometimes xD
0 likes@JetInk wdym? 😐
1 likeWhen my mom says do you understand?
4 likes@Andrew Yes. Their intent is plain because of the disrespect they show his rights. "We've got the right guy, even if we don't." It's borne out in the rate of wrongful conviction. Far too often, police just want a resolution that makes them look efficient. There is no other justification for hearing a suspect say, "I want an attorney" and then continuing to interrogate him. Even trying to make him feel stupid for making a request they just outlined as a constitutional right. When a cop tries to talk people out of the rights they just outlined, they're trying to play prosecutor, not law enforcer. That's not all police, obviously. But the moment you hear, "I want a lawyer present" followed by, "Oh come on, that's not necessary," their intent is crystal clear.
41 likesI read that as “do you understand that I have the right to read to you?” I was so confused 😭
5 likes@Rat ? No the interrogator says do you understand the rights I have read to you
0 likes@Mark’s Workshop I…
3 likesI realized that, friend. Thanks for telling me anyway I guess 😅
That would have been argued in court.... Having a no/yes answer is as good as saying no.
2 likes@Brohvakiin Dova okay I understand your perspective
1 likeRight?! His experience with the law shows! It seems like nothing but little things like that lawyers use to get cases thrown out
4 likes@Ivens Pinheiro Ivens he doesn't want to talk, that doesn't mean they can't talk to him. they will try to make him talk. because you said you wouldn't talk, doesn't mean you won't talk.
3 likesHahahaha best
0 likes@Junko Enoshima nice
0 likesfeel bad for laughing at that exchange of words
0 likes"Yeah"
1 like@Junko Enoshima finally, Junko I thought you’d never die 😩
1 like@Kodzuken I die but DESPAIR LIVES ON
0 likes@Andrew yeah. Convictions.
0 likes@Junko Enoshima somone should call a doctor
1 likeHe said he has the right to remain silent.
0 likes@Co thx 😃
0 likes@Hotdog Christmas tru
0 likes@Brohvakiin Dova They didntl.... notice how at the "5 hours later" section of the video, almost at the end, Jeff states that "I only came here bc of the coke", he probably had already talked to the lawyer, but came back to questioning due to the offer he was made.
0 likesRole play on roblox be like
0 likesNo is a good response if you don't have a law degree. Ask my attorney is a better response.
0 likes@Brohvakiin Dova thats not the point hes making.This system is very corrupt and needs a change.
1 like"but now you've handcuffed me" wow
0 likesI've got sooo much evidence!
0 likesLike what?
.... I've got so much evidence!
i love this guy
0 likesHe doesn't want to talk to you because he's convinced you are going to railroad him on the charges. He already confessed to heroin charges so he's trying to avoid being sent up the river. His involvement is questionable.
0 likesOfficer: you have the right to remain silent
6575 likesJeff: 🗿
Officer: 👀
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I stop laughing at the comment
53 likesWhy is that emoji so powerful?
73 likes@Gubbin because it's never used lol
19 likesTrubisky trying to pick up on another career because his NFL career is a whole joke 😂
0 likesthe first time ive seen someone properly use the moai emoji
9 likes🤣😂🤣😂🤣
0 likesOfficer: 👁️👄👁️
1 likesurprise Pikachu face
0 likes@The Xenex Virus 😳
0 likesMitchell Trubisky wow hes right yall are idolizing this criminal
0 likesLmao right😆😭😭😭🤣👏🏽
0 likes😂
0 likesFkn ded 💀 💀 💀 💀
0 likes😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@alia meow HAHA! Literally
1 like🗿
0 likes@CaptainSkelebones pretty sure they got the idea from the Stephen McDaniel video uploaded right before this one. One of the most liked comments made this same joke long before this one.
2 likesOmg I died hahaha
0 likesWhats the timestamp?
0 likesjeff's IQ *100😂
0 likesPlayed the bad santa so long, that I forgot what I was watching 😅
0 likesI wonder where Jeff is now. I hope he's clean
0 likesThis should be renamed to Jeff’s Story
0 likesSo Jeff is brilliant, he got two cokes and the cops got nothing!
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what about those butterfingers he promised to Jeff? He ain't that innocent...
143 likes@Lana M 12 hours later Jeff went and got himself a Butterfinger
121 likesHistify maybe a baggie of black tar, he didn’t want what Butterfinger when he got out.....
4 likesGoing through opiate withdrawal has you craving sugar
8 likes@Jay Mym Dude has been arrested multiple times over several years, you think that haven't already gotten his DNA?
5 likes@VTwin Builder Yes, I'm aware. My comment is what you would classify as a "joke".
1 likeNot a "the most likely scenario that occurred to Jeff the moment he got out of custody" assumption.
Alex Galate this is true but speaking as someone who’s been there, when you start withdrawing things like caffeine and sugar will give you a quick boost but once you’re in deep the only thing you can think of is opiates and you’ll have all day and night to do it because you won’t sleep a wink until you get more. It’s truly awful. It’s clear that Jeff is hurting at this point but he’s not too far in to withdrawal or I doubt he’d be doing as well as he appears.
3 likes@VTwin Builder Just because something isn't humorous to you does not mean that it is not humorous.
3 likesAnd glad to hear I could make you laugh! The world needs more laughter ☺️
Jeff is average intelligence at best.
2 likesHistify true that I personally don’t define what is and is not funny but I can objectively and comfortably state that your “joke” was not funny in anyway. So it shouldn’t come as such a shock to you that I didn’t understand you thought you were making a joke.
0 likesMiranda Brooks agreed, he did he released in the end but I hope that the story about him getting clean and straightening himself up is true. I doubt he works in marketing for Coca Cola but maybe he works at a bottling facility or delivers for them. It’s clear that his crimes were a result of his opiate addiction, having dealt with that myself I know it’ll make you do things you never would’ve clean. It changes you if you stay with it too long also. I would feel pretty comfortable saying that if Jeff isn’t in prison or didn’t get help he is probably dead, heroin addicts have a bad habit of overdosing especially if they’ve been clean and relapse or use after being locked up for a few months. They go back to using the same amount they did before not realizing their tolerance has dropped and it kills them. It happens a lot and to really sad.
1 like@VTwin Builder Arguably my joke about butterfingers was more funny, and appropriate than your "black tar heroin" comment,
0 likesbut yeah. I was inappropriate and unfunny in the situation. Makes sense.
Histify well we are getting close to the truth, Jeff is a heroin addict after all so I’ll stand behind my statement (not a joke, meaning not meant to be funny) that upon his release he undoubtedly was more interested in finding more heroin than he is in getting a candy bar. Also if you knew much about the drug trade, especially in the area he is from you’d know that black tar is the predominant form of heroin available there. So my comment was right on. You should worry more about the things you yourself are writing as this thread has clearly demonstrated.
0 likesThe art of the deal
0 likesi see this as an absolute win
0 likes@Alex Galate not me. Never.
0 likesMost complex way to get free coke
0 likes@Stevey TeeVee from the coke cans put into the garbage. Law states if you dispose of something it becomes municipal property and cops can then search it.
0 likesthis is all just to sad can you imagine? how sad america is killing itself
0 likesYes, its always smarter to bring in the desired item and place it on the desk away from the con, they can see it but cant have it yet.... These guys gave him the items first and he drank them as quick as possible. You keep the item near you (against the wall on his right elbow) and if the person gives you nothing you drink it yourself...in front of them while the guards are summoned. Works much better that way.
0 likesMacumezahn That’d just solodify my choice to not talk
1 likeThey don't need to covertly obtain his DNA from a soda can, guys...
1 likeHe is a felon. His DNA is already on file.
Well, they got the possibility of Jeff puking in the basket...
0 likes🤣😂🤣
0 likesI've been addicted to heroin, it's a horrible feeling to start withdrawing in custody.
0 likesLet the court record show, he means MY MAN... but like the way Denzel Washington says it
1 likeOh hell, I really like this antihero <3
0 likesThe investigator just needed the DNA from the coke can !!!!!!
0 likesThe only thing the interrogators proved here is that Jeff is a Coke addict.
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Actually, I’m pretty sure he was asking for so much coke because of his heroin addiction. I have family members addicted to heroin, and when they don’t have it, they crave the fuck out of sugar and it helps them not feel so bad, especially chocolate.
196 likes@Cherry I suspected as much. He really, really wanted that coke!
64 likesAlso I'm sorry about your family situation
@JohnZackarias he actually got clean if that makes you feel any better. And I don’t talk to those family members anymore, but my partner got clean after he ODed so that’s good :)
68 likes🤣🤣🤣 Sodas/sweets help dim the intensity of withdrawals via dopeamine, I believe.
9 likesI see what you did there. Very clever.
4 likesHe got no proves whatsoever, it's his confession, not a prove tho, police got nothing on him
1 like@Cherry ok
1 likeand walks through front doors
0 likes😂
0 likes@Cherry I've been addicted to heroin. He's trying to fend off withdrawal sugar helps a bit.
1 likelmao xD
0 likes@Cherry please name a few sources for that confident claim
0 likes@Riley Anderson Not me I have a big happy one
0 likes@Riley Anderson yeah that’s basically what I was trying to say when I said “when they don’t have it”, as in their substance of choice
0 likesIt looks like a canned drink
0 likesYeah he's starting to detox and the sugar and caffeine will help him feel a bit better. Still gonna kick something awful, but it'll be slightly better
0 likes@Cherry that’s unfortunate. Hope they can break their addiction
0 likes@KikiQuinnnComics dont be disrespectful :/
0 likes6'5 and 153 pounds... What in the world happened to him?
0 likesthis is a confidence of a man who has got nothing to loose
0 likesI’d buy this man a coke
0 likesI used to be an addict myself, although, my addiction was alcohol(22 years sober). I would mention the weed but that was really just a modifier. I used to be really nice, laid back, accepting of the human natured flaws. Now that I am sober I am a straight up ass; hole, I want nothing but the truth, nothing but facts. And I do not tolerate any foolishness. I reformed, mostly because I was forced to, I was forced into living the life I currently lead, and I hate it. And as a result, I hold all of you to the same standards you held me to. Your society judged me and my flaws. Now I judge YOU and all of YOUR flaws. And I have found you lacking. Jeff, if you ever see this(not likely); if nobody else is on your side, I am on your side.
3 likesJeff is smart, smarter than you are, for sure. I definitely know why he gets high. When this guy gets sober he sees how stupid you are and it makes him angry, and the only thing that drowns that anger out is the drugs. Your idiocy drove this man to drugs.
To anyone who is finding this video now, Jeff actually did 2 years for parole violation after this incident. However, today he makes music and owns his own place thanks to the support that's come from this video. Wham bam, thank you JCS for the coke and making a man's life better.
838 likesEdit: You guys can find his channel here. He has a short update video here. https://youtu.be/55D4C8i_ni8
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wait he makes music? If so can u like give me a link to one of his musiv
28 likesWhere do you know this from
21 likesHe makes music?? I'd love to see the progress
11 likesIs there a link to how you found this out?
9 likesI found it guys! Search up his channel called syrenge music
39 likesHes doing really well actually
6 likesYou can all find his channel on the pinned comment. It'll take you to his channel Syrenge Music to keep up with him there :)
16 likesSick bro
3 likes@erizo I really hope this is true. Beating this level of addiction after so many years of being hooked and dependent just to function in daily life is almost impossible.
4 likes@ohmightywez he actually got to beat the heroin addiction
3 likesThank you for this. I actually found this one hard to watch, he seemed like a really troubled dude. So glad to hear he is doing well.
9 likesGood to knoww haha was rooting for him
0 likes@FAHRI ANGKASA thank you so much ❤❤
0 likes@erizo thank you sm
0 likesHow do you know?
0 likes@Moldy-Grapes His channel's right here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTb9wGVamkUbf88OOmEGS0Q (Linked in the desc)
1 like@FAHRI ANGKASA This is the internet. Don't believe any information without a link to a credible course. Every band has a website nowadays. Believe me, where Jeff is he has no internet.
1 likeim so happy for him. i just wish my dad could make this recovery.
1 likeProof? otherwise its horse shit.
0 likes@WallSt Bets Pinned comment in the video leads you to his channel. From there, scroll down till you find a video named 'Facts' itll explain everything there
0 likesWe're from the same damn city, he probably shot up with my dad HAHA!
0 likeshe honestly looks like hes still doin drugs, i iwish the best for him tho
0 likesLOL I nearly pissed myself when they set up the end of a rumor that he works for Coca-Cola now LOL where do people come up with this shit. That sucks though I can only imagine being cuffed up being stuck in there and going through heroin withdrawals. Like oh my God.
0 likesYou know it’s serious when the cop in the hoodie pull up
0 likesYou have the right to remain silent. Well, say something!
0 likes'wham bam thank you for the coke' wise words tbh
0 likesCop: “Usually I’m the prick.”
1183 likesJeff: you walked right into my trap
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Spit out my drink on his reply. 😂
7 likesJust a criminal here. Watching only for his particular psycho babble. Half way through: a half assed
0 likeslife because of a half assed effort. Whether guilty of this particular crime: unknown. I then watched
all the way to the end. Outcome: unknown. I'll have that coke now!!
(The edit)
I then read other comments: Jeff the criminal, had charges dropped this time; two weeks later.
Everytime i hear the name Jeff i rush to amazon and buy random shit man.....this video cost me 22$!
0 likes@8:35 says he wants a lawyer, stop talking to him.
0 likesJeff has experience with this 🤣
1 likeBlowing his nose while the detective is talking is priceless
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That isnt even considered rude in some countries like Germany. They just blow their nose in every possible situation. Uuuugh disgusting
22 likes@JULI 620 what kind of germany you spend your time? i dont accept doing that near me, they should go to the bathroom obviously.
6 likes@Shardy McSmoker most of withdrawals make your nose runny because of the body cleaning itself
7 likesOne of the symptoms of withdraw is runny nose, trust me I know from experience unfortunately
1 like@nerijuspagalkriterijus you are correct sir, when my eyes begin to water, I know it’s about to start
2 likes@ThatInternet Dude didn't think it was rude to clean my nose...
5 likes@JULI 620
0 likesWhat?
No, not all of us! 😅😂😂
He's withdrawing; he has no choice.
3 likes@Christina Ellis seriously people will find anything to complain about. As an autistic person I don't get offended when people have to do stuff their body makes them do. Like having to blow your nose when its runny or burp when you have gas. I mean they're just normal human functions and honestly it sounds rude to me to expect someone to have to remove themselves from their current situation just to go blow their nose when they need to.
8 likes@Mystery Williams yess, and when an addict goes through withdrawal ,the first symptom is runny then stuffy nose he truly wasn't being rude
3 likes@elissa lesse hes in the early stages , first 12 hours that’s why he’s not in the full throws yet
0 likes@James Jones ich hab ja nicht gesagt, dass ich einen Kommentar abgebe in der Situation lol soll jeder machen was er will, trotzdem habe ich einen persönlichen Standard haha
0 likesund gewalt wegen eines kommentars einzusetzen finde ich eher charakterschwach aber naja
I have a hard time understanding how and why things so simple like blowing your nose became "rude"? Is it rude to sneeze? Is it rude to cough? As long as you do it Cleanly I don't see a problem. Same with blowing your nose. As long as it in a tissue and not your fingers.
2 likesthat's heroin wds for you
1 like@JULI 620 okay. I'll just let my snot drip out of my nose to my mouth as you're talking, since I don't want to be rude, or disgusting. My bad. 🙄
0 likes@Mystery Williams same. Farts stink tho so that's a lil diff but I feel
0 likes@ThatInternet Dude that's what I was thinking. How is blowing your nose in front of someone considered rude?
0 likes@Willabewallace whoa, yeah, totally agree! I ain't up with breathing in a whirlpool of swirling stink.
0 likesI loled @, " the only reason I came up is to get a Coke...I can't finish it?"
0 likesDude, when it hit me that he was "remaining silent", I couldn't stop laughing.
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He shouldve
11 likesThank you for this comment I thought he just didn't understand his rights 😂😂
3 likesSmart dude. Even acknowledging that you understand your right could probably be used against you.
4 likesThis is sooooooo wrong by the police. What part of “I want a lawyer,” do the police not understand? Never ever speak to the police guilty or especially innocent.
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Apparently you have to “invoke your right to a lawyer and to stay silent” using those words exactly for it to be considered legally correct.
27 likesHe's thinking, If he wants a lawyer, he's done something and I'm gonna get a confession. You do have the right, but they don't have to leave you alone.
5 likes@erika being able to not move your mouth is hardly a right, I'd say the spirit of the law is that if you don't want cops hassling you for evidence you should be able to not be hassled.
1 likeIt depends on where you are. In many places you don't have to answer but the officers can ask you as many questions as they like, even after asking for an attorney
2 likes@Love or Leave! exactly, people let these pieces of shit they pay wrong them too often.
0 likesI've been preaching on that exact issue! If you're actually innocent, you REALLY need to keep your rights because they'll do anything they can just to get a conviction. I was a VERY sheltered child and was emphatically taught to trust the Police. TLDR: Fool me once but never again. I flippin' feel for this guy SO hard. I gotta believe that he's living his best life. Whatever that might be.. ;-)
0 likesNever talk to cops….. it is legal for them to lie, but you don’t have that luxury….. never talk to cops. Jeff played it right
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When's that coke coming.....or is that just a fairy tale?!
62 likesThe cops aren't the ones that possibly broke the law. They are the ones who's job it is to find the truth. You want to allow the criminals to lie and not let cops use proven tactics to attempt to get evidence needed to convict? You're a smart one. Man with gun and bags of money in hand : I didn't rob that bank i'm walking out of. Cops: Well, shit.
43 likesEspecially when the cop asks you "know why I pulled ya over" or "you have any idea what I got you here for?" More than likely, if you say anything before the cop does, they'll take it as a confession and have you accuse your self. The right to remain silent is a right even before handcuffs.
65 likes@Kelsey Guard yup
2 likes@Kelsey Guard woman moment
9 likes@Kelsey Guard the foundation and science of interrogation is inherently one sided. Look at more of these videos they literally try to fatigue you in hopes that your mental capacity lowers and you can't fight against them/give lower iq counterarguments. They'll do this if you are innocent too since they get commission based on how many people they arrest. their entire system is designed to FISH for "criminals". With extra incentive to catch people instead of finding a truth like you've uttered . If anything everything that cops do has some sort of dirtiness to it. This isn't about "getting evidence" like your little strawman argument makes it look like. It's about mental manipulation and exploiting the lack of attorney whenever they feel like it.
28 likes@Kelsey Guard a cops job isn't to find the truth it's to get a conviction, When you're being interrogated you hold almost no power compared to the interrogators, the cops can choose what parts of that interrogation they want to use to convict. so giving the cops any information whether true or false and even if you're innocent, is to your disadvantage.
14 likes@Kelsey Guard that’s not what they said. they just described how it works. it’s true, you can’t lie, but they can. and anything you say will be used against you. you should never speak to a cop, whether you’re guilty or innocent, it’ll only hurt you.
20 likes@NotN are you on the ACAB crowd? Or just that some of them are?
0 likesNever? Never ever?
0 likesSorry son, you're a cop, I can't talk to you.
@Kelsey Guard Why should anyone care about people robbing banks? The money of the people is insured, the money that's being robbed is the banks - the same people fucking the world over.
5 likesThis is advice you get from a fortune cookie.
0 likesyou can just tell jeff is an intelligent witty and decent guy at heart. it’s a shame he fell into addiction.
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can you blame most of the addicts for being and addict? having a job without benefits no sick days no payed vacation what is making you mentaly and physicly sick, you get into pain, the doctor prescribing you opium based painkillers to keep you on your feet in order to not lose your job and there is your addiction. and heroin is cheaper than oxicodon. so amarica has not a drug or crime issue, it is systematic, you treat your own people without dignity, a minimum guaranted standart of living and decency.
285 likes@Samael78 very well said… sad case of America
46 likes@Samael78 im from germany and i can tell you, if we get sick here and are not able to work, we get some payed rest time and meds that dont make addicted. stuff like opium you usually get in the last stages of pain. also we all in all get more money at work, i didnt got shot in school, i can go on the streets without fear, our justice system dont depends on who has the best speech. i dont know man. the more i talk the more i am happy to not live in america. poor people
43 likes@DoriEatsMoonsoup ich bin krankenpfleger und arbeite paliativ, und lieber hier als drüben übern teich :)
5 likesYou can absolutely blame the addict. I get it, you see innocence in everyone. That's not always the case with an addict.
5 likes@Samael78 ye im dutch and from the things i have heard the american system treads the people like machines and not like u now living intelegent humans
6 likes@DoriEatsMoonsoup as a dutch man i agre
2 likes@Samael78 Depends on the person. I have close family that have been addicts, one became an addict because he was an angry criminal asshole who would do anything to briefly take away that anger and make himself feel good no matter the consequences. Unfortunately in time it just made the anger worse, and sure, most people don't go into it thinking they're going to be addicted, but not all of them are just nice guys with a legitimate reason either. Some of them are real sociopaths and jerks who only care about making themselves "feel good" at the expense of everybody else in their lives around them. Some are just people who had some serious medical issues and needed pain killers. Others are people trying to forget the pain of some horrible life experiences. There are all types, but not all of them are innocent and good.
2 likesSo yeah, in fact I can blame some addicts for being addicts, especially when they are the kind that never want to begin to see if they can come down and don't care about all the lives they constantly ruin and screw up around them. I know that kind too well. But I also know some enablers can be at least as bad and sometimes a worse part of the problem than the addicts themselves.
We don't know this guy is some good guy. You want to give him an excuse for holding up a store because he didn't have drug money? He could get on a program to get off this stuff but doesn't want to. Let's not presume to know why, either way. He shouldn't be commiting armed robbery and he doesn't have an excuse for that tho.
Saying "thanks for the Coke" is no big thing showing he's nice. You live with socipaths long enough, you see they can be quite polite when the mood takes them.
@MewmewGrrl Take a sociology course
2 likes@DoriEatsMoonsoup I didn’t shot in school either and I’m american
2 likesMost people are addicted to something. The chemical known as "heroin" isn't any more harmful to the body than caffeine in appropriate doses. It's the "war on drugs" mentality and the stigma around it that causes most of the damage. That's what's a crying shame
7 likes@Samael78 Junkies aren't just an "America problem".
4 likes@Great Cold Emptiness society is made from everyone, including the junkies and criminals, removing them is a way to rid of crime, but that doesn't stop them from keep coming up. Maybe when people start looking in the problem instead of blaming it on all of them and "just lock em up" and see why society continues to let these people become like that, only by then can they find the solution for the root of the problems.
5 likes@Samael78 well said. many abuse drugs to escape their problems
1 like@Great Cold Emptiness Who do you think put the drugs in the country in the first place… lmfao.
3 likesIts such a horrible demon,I know far to well how miserable it is. Addiction is indescribable . It is such a beast. Wish him luck and future sobriety.
2 likes@doorknob urine speaks louder than words
1 likeI grew up in a normal family with two great parents who are very good to me.. but I became addicted to pain pills due to heavy kidney stones and it wasn't like I went out there and did it and I think that's in most cases where it starts with pain medicine then sometimes people take it to heroin or crystal meth.. with my withdrawals and my addiction to pain medicine. Actually help so much so I want to see what would happen if I took pain medicine again and I did one day and it absolutely did not do anything for me and I was happy about it and I'll probably be on this Suboxones for a long time but I can understand a little what Jeff went through I was just lucky that it didn't really damaged me as bad as others but it does not mean he's a bad person when people Rob and steal and do robberies is because of drugs I stolen a lot of stuff worth thousands of dollars and barely got caught it was all because I just wanted extra money and I rely on that medicine to function
0 likes@Great Cold Emptiness You must be quite privileged to believe that only a "tiny fraction" of the population are excluded from society.
3 likes@Achilles94 a lot of people stay addicted due to the mental stress of everyday life rather than needing it because they have physical pain.
3 likesI feel nothing but sympathy and empathy for this guy
1 likeThe government is good isn't it
0 likes@Great Cold Emptiness OK I don't use drugs but even I can see the benefit of having legal heroin on prescription because it stops addicts committing crimes, it takes pressure off the health care system from sickness resulting from bad cutting agents in the drugs. Switzerland shows how it should be they have less than 3% of the original people on heroin from their trial program.... This means it's more successful in treating addicts because it helps them get stable find work and housing and eventually they come off it or they are stable and happy. No needles out on the street. I understand your comment but it comes from a place of lack of education and almost 60 years of government propoganda and lies.
1 likeWorld war 2 vets in England lived full lives on prescription heroin and died in their 80s and 90s even though they used heroin since their 20s. America stop this war. It needs to be targeted there doesn't need to be illegal drugs turned legal and be over the counter but they need to be available for addicts. Though it seems the government needs the war on drug money it's like being able to write off billions every year and not having to show any progress. All these people who have died or been hurt and injured because of illegal drugs and leaving it in the hands of ruthless cartels who don't care who they hurt or what's in it.
A lot of people have jobs because of the war on drugs as well. Part of the reason it is still around is because the prison systems have been built around it and the law enforcement jobs L.E.A.P law enforcement against prohibition is full of retired police officers saying how wrong the war is but anyone still getting a paycheuqe still sings the government's tune.
We are all addicted to something. Didn't you watch Trainspotting?
1 likeI was kinda liking him myself....lol
0 likes@Bella Bear they actually do have “legal heroin on prescription” - it’s called Suboxone. Suboxone is a pretty cool innovation that’s extremely helpful to recovering addicts, it’s a legal medication that contains a combination of opiates and opiate blockers - so you take it, the opiate content prevents your body from going into physical withdrawal, and the opiate blockers do two things - they make you NOT get high at all, and when you have that in your system and say you go buy heroin or pain pills and you attempt to take it - it won’t work. You won’t get high, because you have an opiate blocker in your system. If you attempt to take a lot of pain pills or heroin on top of the suboxone, it can actually CAUSE sickness, that has the potential to be so extreme, it’ll feel like the worst withdrawal symptoms ever. So it actually does a great job getting people off of heroin/opiate abuse safely so they can lead normal lives in a stable condition.
0 likes@Great Cold Emptiness I have spotted the Californian. That state has pandered to the addicts and for what? Feces and used needles all over the streets like confetti. I feel ya.
1 like@Achilles94 my friend got addicted to the prescription pills, he’s dead now
0 likesA lot of us addicts (I suffer from alcoholism) are good people at heart. Its the fucking shit we put into our system that fucks us up.
1 likeI wanna get my shit together so I can enjoy my life again, but its fucking hard. Relapse is such a bitch.
@space pig I see it everywhere
0 likes@WaterWhipin well that’s a depressing standpoint
0 likesNot all junkies are bad people...I'm 6yrs clean myself and have been where Jeff is sitting in an interrogation for something I didn't do. I was questioned for about 8hrs but it was much easier knowing they were full of sh*it about the evidence because I knew I didn't do it! Go Jeff!!
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What’d they try to get you for? And I love your cat is she a calico?
7 likesYour cat is gorgeous love her
7 likes@Chloe Kit I was pulled over because they claimed my tags were improperly attached and had a coworker in the vehicle with me, I was giving a ride home to. The coworker had a drug history on record so they asked to search my vehicle and sure enough, he had stashed a handful of "caps" of heroin under my carseat...the police interrogated me for 8 hours asking me where all I had taken the guy, they were trying to get me to confess where the "big" dope boy was...the dealer. My passenger never claimed the drugs so we were both charged with possession...I had to hire a lawyer and prove I was just giving him a ride but honestly, the police almost talked me into a fake confession because I wanted to leave after 8hrs of it. I never mentioned I wanted a lawyer because I had nothing to hide...but I wish I would have!!
52 likesAnd thank you...that's my sweet Miss Angel Cat!
13 likesGlad you got cleaned up! Enjoy life as much as possible. Love the cat!
11 likesAll humans are bad, Jesus said "There's none that are good"
2 likes@Jesus IS Lord I wouldn't agree with that. Humans are not 100% bad and 100% good (I wouldn't see Jesus being 100% good but I don't want to touch on that topic that much) . Most have flaws that can be managable to conform in society, I would see that as being good in my Book
4 likes@Bruh...... our view of "good" has isn't what matters. God is Holy and won't allow any sin in his presence and mankind chooses sin over God over and over from Adam to present day.
2 likesThis is why the gospel is good news instead of just a history lesson because the penalty of sin is so severe it requires blood as payment, OT laws were animal blood as temporary payment and the NT was God Himself pays it permanently for anyone willingly accepting it.
For anyone that believes "God has no right to judge me" I like to use this as an example. The punishment is directly related to the amount of authority you break the against. If I lie to my child, I'm the authority, and there is no direct punishment, maybe my child stops trusting me etc but that's not a punishment in the same sense. If I lie to my boss at work I can be fired as a result of my lie. If I lie to a police officer I can be arrested for filing a false report or obstruction of justice etc and can be criminally charged. If I lie on the witness stand I can be charged with perjury. When a perfect omnipotent being sets the rules and we break them, without seeking forgiveness, then the penalty is eternal separation from Him.
most junkies are just good people that are victims of their addiction
1 likeYour not a bad person and neither is Jeff
0 likes@RD Enduro Thank you...that was such a nice thing to read just now. It made me smile.
0 likesThis guy. A hero. 200IQ. I don't know if anybody can appreciate how difficult it is to stay silent in a situation like that and this guy is additionally feeling withdrawal so naturally would want this to end as quickly as possible.
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@Sabrina Tschäß I don't know if the guy is guilty or not. I just admire how a junkie on withdrawal can show more composure than almost everybody else faced with this situation.
59 likesUnless, of course, you’re a career-criminal which this guy clearly is. I’m not above feeling empathy for somebody whose life was ruined by drugs, but there are people far more deserving of that empathy than this man. If you’ve ever had your house burgled or better yet, your soul CRUSHED by a loved one who is addicted to drugs, you might see things from a different perspective. Not to say that these cops aren’t being complete douche bags, though. I can agree with that much at least.
19 likes@Sabrina Tschäß Empathy isn't a finite quantity, having empathy for him does not reduce the available empathy for others. I have had my house burgled, twice: that does not make Jeff a burglar or guilty of this crime. It seems at least as likely that Jeff was picked up on 'arrest the usual suspects and see if we can find someone to pin it on' and not due to actual evidence pointing to Jeff specifically. And, it is possible to have empathy for both the victim of a crime and the soul whose life by horrible choices or bad circumstances has led them being criminals at the same time.
36 likesFurther and why I bothered to reply: I have a couple pretty close relatives addicted to drugs, including a very close age mate cousin that lived with us when we were both children due to his mom's addiction to alcohol and abusive men who died of an overdoes in a 'crack house' after a 9 year struggle to meth that stole everything from him; if anything that gives me more empathy for Jeff not less. IF you're 'not above feeling empathy for somebody whose life was ruined by drugs' then how is Jeff less deserving of empathy than others? Your disclaimer is completely voided by the rest of your statement.
Yall don't know. Heroin withdrawal is hell. Stomach flu and regular flu combined with shakes, blood pressure drops and constant yawns, eyes watering...
8 likes@Sabrina Tschäß even as a career criminal, they make holding cells cold and uncomfortable. You can only sit so long before you just wana get on with it.
1 like@Jester Head you ain't never been to jail then.
1 likecolpul2 Empathy that is genuine hurts. That’s why it’s called empathy. You are vicariously experiencing the other person’s pain. it takes up energy and drains you spiritually and emotionally. You can feel bad for someone but then at the same time decide not to expend too much of your emotional energy on that person by thinking about them. We all do it and some of us have learned, for our own well-being (and the well-being of others we love) not to dwell too much on the problems of people who aren’t going to try to better their own situation. I understand that drug addiction is very real do not get me wrong on that, but there is a point after which your empathy no longer does any good. Being someone who has lived with the same things that you have, I have learned to harden myself to it as a natural defense and there is nothing wrong with that.
2 likesDwelling on somebody else’s demons will suck the life out of you
The more he says, the longer it goes on.
0 likesWith the raspy voice he sounds high as hell.
0 likesNot a hero, but he was smart.
0 likesIt’s so sad how police in this country just want a confession and don’t care if it’s a false confession or a true confession. This is why everyone needs to know their rights. Cops will try to minimize the charge and make deals like “we’ll put a good word in with your parole officer”, so someone will falsely confess to a crime and it’s sick. Also, Jeff as of two weeks ago got this charge dismissed!
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That’s good to hear, I hope he works towards improving his condition and getting rid of his condition. He genuinely seems like a pretty chill guy.
115 likesIt was actually the charge from “bad cop no donut” but I love the support
18 likes@Meep Meep he wont ....
3 likes@Meep Meep He actually did! He has a YouTube channel, called Legend Of Jeff.
40 likes@SlavPlaysGames boy were you wrong :D, you seem like a lovely person to be around
19 likes@SlavPlaysGames w⚓
1 like@FinnTheFish Well i hope he does get better but it's extremely unlikely if you look at the statistics ...
3 likes@Monika Tiwari You can see Jeff's YouTube channel for yourself
4 likesJeff a hero
2 likesnice! Go Jeff! I hope he gets clean, I really do.
2 likesAlthough I agree by looking from your perceptive but If I talk from my POV , I am amazed how polite is police there. Indian police would have beat the shitt out him , he would have confessed world bank robbery along with two kittens murder until the end of interrogation.
6 likes@Audra West man, you must be famous if you've met every cop!
2 likesThing is, Jeff knew his rights and asked for a lawyer, that's when the interview should have ended. His rights were abused, as was he because the interviewer knew he was starting withdrawals. Shameful policing.
4 likesnot all police
0 likesJeff literally in these comments and people don't see it
3 likeshe is the second comment 😁
@h z acab
0 likes@MicahDude all police
0 likes@rat no
0 likes@Rat give me evidence
0 likescause still no
@Rat wowwww so much evidence omg.
0 likes@h z or very bad at being a criminal.
0 likes@mamie monrovia literally
0 likes@Rat once again, met all cops?
0 likes@John Me and where exactly did you hear they do that?
0 likesYou can watch his side of the story here https://youtu.be/m0srs6NKm-s
0 likesLmao SWIM killed and ate his friends dad, to this day they think his boat sank in the middle of the lake on his way to Canada
0 likesAre you lyinnnn
0 likes@Katarina love you
0 likes@John Me wasn't long ago the states was like that. Luckily cameras have become more prevalent.
1 like@Jay Cee shit you have no clue about shameful policing. These guys were angels.
0 likes@Brad Sanders Yeah, okay, keep on wearing those blinkers.
0 likes@Jay Cee if you think these are the bad ones you are clueless. There are some in Anderson, Indiana that made my buddy stand for his mugshot for a public intoxication charge on two broken ankles which were the reason he was arrested. He jumped down of a ledge drunk and broke his ankles. Someone called 911 for him and they didn't take him to the hospital, they took him to jail. That's just one of many from that jail/police department. So yeah these guys are freaking angels.
0 likes@Brad Sanders How many 'angels' do you think have been responsible for ensuring innocent persons have incarcerated over the years, some of whom have been put to death as a result, suffered the most heinous crimes against them by fellow prisoners and guards.. and that was made possible due to an abuse of power.
0 likesCop: “You have the right to remain silent”
5130 likesJeff: *remains silent*
Cop: shocked pikachu face
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He has the right to call a lawyer before saying anything about it so it's smart to stay silent
55 likesYou have to verbally assert your rights or your silence can be seen as potential guilt in a courtroom
41 likesCops hate this one weird trick!
31 likesYes
2 likes@katherine20 .com the thing is people operating the court system are supposed to have no bias. but the fact your arrested already sets a tone for thier opinion before you even go in to court. many many police write full in five page book reports of incidents . while others lie and write one page summaries. these reports greatly impact your outcome of you are on his side of the table ... while this guy is crazy they system is the system
10 likesVirtue signaler trying to score social justice points 🙄
3 likes@The Maker Fr
1 like@Savior_ Protector your actually sad lmao go back to change my mind
0 likesLMFAOOOOO
0 likesJeff is going to prison for 15-20 years and Casey is found not guilty after killing her child. Wow.
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Jeff didn't go to prison. He has a YouTube channel.
352 likes@Random Guy what's it called??
67 likes@Random Guy Yeah, tell us.
46 likes@Random Guy alright then. keep your secrets
444 likes@Ashlyn Covington The legend of Jeff
72 likes@Ashlyn Covington the legend of jeff now. Before it was Syrenge Music
147 likesNope.
1 like@Alexander Bell Read what I wrote again until you understand. This is not what I said.
77 likes@Vinícius Egidio it’s not biased in favor of women.
34 likes@Vinícius Egidio also what studies I’m curious what ones you looked at??
26 likes@Vinícius Egidio no, the one you looked at. Those specific ones
23 likesSO true @Nahidul Islam Rafi. Sickening
0 likes@Nikka the link to the yt channel is in the pinned comment under this video
2 likesWhy are you out here spreading blatant lies?
2 likes@Random Guy lmao
0 likes@that guy Shiver me timbers dude
15 likes@Alexander Bell lel triggered 🤣🤣🤣
16 likes@that guy not really lmao
8 likes@Alexander Bell whatever you say 🤣🤣🤣
6 likes@Vinícius Egidio proof?
0 likes@Alexander Bell why aren't you willing to consider that the justice system is easier on women?
21 likes@E Click the link he sent
3 likes@Rob Cotton you clearly didn’t read those and just googled them when someone checked your sources
3 likes@Vinícius Egidio they're asking for a source because you made a claim. the burden of proof is on you. & unfortunately dropping a Wikipedia article and the classic "do your own research" isn't a valid source. just sayin
13 likes@mars_ffs All you got to do is click on the Wikipedia sources and oh well there is your sources. Not rocket science
18 likes@Isaac I’m gay.
9 likes@Vinícius Egidio wikipedia is known to not be a reliable source, get a better one.
7 likes@Alexander Bell this is like “GIVE ME THE PROOF!” “Ok here.” “THIS ISN’T ALL THE PROOF”
20 likes@lily ROFL
4 likesTHANK YOU
0 likesIt's the bias for women in the justice system unfortunately
6 likes@Vinícius Egidio wikipedia is not the most reliable source you know
4 likesdidn't ur english teacher tell u this
@Isaachow is being respectful towards women being a simp
8 likesidk yall call guys simps for being respectful towards women
+ Wikipedia is not the best source
@Anna ***** literally provided sources that isn't from wikipedia
4 likes@Alexander Bell He literally just showed you.
4 likes@a jedi youngling Respectful? You don't know what respect means. Respect has nothing to do with it.
5 likes@Isaac y'all call any guy who defends or is even nice to a woman a "simp" when rlly a simp isn't like that at all
4 likesguys can't b nice to women anymore bc u guys start to call him a simp or white knight 😭
Don't forget her Daddy had been a Cop !
2 likes@C P It was less difficult to prove than it would be to honestly prove she was innocent ,but they felt they achieved that. Parents just don't lie and deflect for weeks over an accident, there's no reason to unless you know that you should be convicted of murder. She didn't have any other family she cared to protect, she wanted to protect herself. The defence manipulated the shit out of the jury. That is the only reason they came to the verdict they did. They were told repeatedly that if they stated she was guilty it was because they were overly emotional and not suited to be on the jury. I don't understand how the way her defense attorney acted wasn't enough manipulation to call a mistrial, but i also don't understand the illogical nature of the "justice" system
1 like@a jedi youngling That implies that an overused word people constantly grasp onto has any power over anyone else. Know that if someone is frothing at the mouth shouting you down as a simp when it's completely irrelevant they're just wasting their time. Of all the "bias" in the U.S court system a supposed leaning towards sympathy for women (biological women or all women?) is the least of our problems.
2 likes@lily oh come on. seriously. It isnt reliable because you get people who sometimes troll it not because it has full bullshit articles. Wikipedia is almost entirely clear 99.99 percent of the time with honesty. The whole unreliability claim is stupid because its innaccurate and exaggerated.
4 likes@Vinícius Egidio male dna is found at unsolved crime scenes, messiah of wisdom
0 likes@Alexander Bell your right it is a shitty system, but he is also correct men statistically get much more time for the same offense
5 likes@Alexander Bell It's biased and is statistically verifiable. On a balance of probabilities a man is less likely to get away with a crime. So 'men get away with this shit'. Is not a valid arguement.
2 likes@Vinícius Egidio I think it depends. Statistically darker skinned women are given the same sentence as men. What you are talking about is how the justice system benefits young & light skinned women who are pretty.
5 likesisnt that fucking digusting
1 like@Vinícius Egidio that balances the whole (fake) they don't get paid the same
0 likes@a jedi youngling wikipedia is typically built off of academic sources and publishes meshed into one summary. your teachers didn't want you to have the easy way to information bud...
5 likesWhatever happened to basic logic and common sense? It's true women often (often is the key word, not always or even most of the time) get it easier than their male counterparts but it's also true that the system is awful and unfair to people in general. Both of these narratives can be correct at the same time, it's not always one or the other. Also, saying Wikipedia is unreliable is a cheap excuse to not even read the actual sources that it links to because everyone with a brain knows that Wikipedia doesn't pretend to be a primary source, it LINKS to primary sources. People just want to be able to lazily dismiss it for the sake purpose of fulfilling their own agendas. This horrible argument that so many people throw around is basically a genetic fallacy.
3 likes@Miracle Sage Wikipedia is as accurate as its sources and the drive of its writers to tell the fact from the personal opinion. You are right in pinpointing that people are lazy in dismissing instantly whatever is mentioned out of Wikipedia but then such people can equally claim that the one who references out of Wikipedia is also lazy for not scrolling down to the sources to actually reference these directly rather than the writers of the Wikipedia article. I am a lover of history so I can tell that most historical articles are correctly referenced and generally unbiased. However, that is "generally unbiased" and that only due to the large number of people writing in them, often specialists of the field. This means that quite on a frequent basis I find inaccuracies, "convenient omissions" and downright erroneous affirmations. But considering the ease of use and availability to everyone, Wikipedia can serve as a satisfactory-enough first-recourse source of information on anything.
1 likeAs you mentioned, women get lighter sentences, and this is by no stretch of the imagination a US phenomenon. It is the same everywhere in the world - in fact in Europe the phenomenon maybe even more pronounced. It was not like that in past societies where women were held as accountable as men, precisely because sentences were given for the sole purpose of revenge for the victim(s). Yes, today women are treated in all ways and manners as A-class citizens and men as B-class and this is reflected also in the justice system. But all is not entirely down to that : to play the devil's advocate here, a sentence has 3 major components :
1) Revenge for the victim and its relatives = the law replaces the customary law of vendetta/revenge
2) Correction; i:e: redressing the offender = the law replaces socio-religious practices
3) Society protection from the offender => the offender may probably go on to do it again, thus locking him up will protect society from his expected future behaviour
4) Society protection from like-minded potential offenders => other wannabe offenders may hesitate to act upon their urges knowing the types of sentences awaiting them
People mostly count on No1 and at best they may go on 2 but they keep forgetting 3 and 4. Now, comparing men and women, it is instantly visible that as our species is biologically set, it is men who are more inclined to crime. Yes it is down to sexual/reproductive functions afterall - women have instant access to sex and are more sheltered from the bad corners of life (e.g. far less homeless women than men - all a woman has to do is sell her body to someone or to many), thus they are far less inclined to commit crimes to survive and have a try at gaining advantage. So that means that female offenders are generally expected to present, on a statistical basis, less of a risk in terms of No3 and No4. As such the sentences they receive for same/similar crimes are comparatively of visibly shorter periods. People (not just men but also victimised women and relatives) count on 1 and 2 and thus get frustrated at this reality. So there you have it.
In my personal opinion, it is not just in the sentences the women receive but in the overall treatment of women in the justice system. Everywhere in the world police and courts just don't push it when it comes to women - and they will only convict them when there is extraordinary amount of evidence against them while for men, this is not the case. And of course they are virtually left free when it comes to lying and giving false testimonials. It is rather in the sexual crimes where this is far more pronounced. For example it is roughly estimated that "way more" than 50% of "rape accusations" do not conform to what the crime of rape actually is and mostly refer to "he said, she said" situations and yet men are condemned with all the lack of evidence. Out of these 50% "unverified rape accusations" about half are evidently "regretted sex" and a significant number of them are outright lies. And yet there is almost no repercussion for women for lying, even in cases where innocent men have been imprisoned, lost jobs, lost marriages and overall had their lives destroyed. You know, in muslim Saria Law the testimony of a woman is given 50% validity as that of a man. We may think of this as "atrociously unfair" but what do westernised women do in practice if not really trying their best to prove Saria Law right? Evidently, not an advocate of it, but... there is always a but. I think the law needs to get redressed as to the treatment of women - it is because of the laxity and general impunity that women are inclined to behave like that. If the law provided the same space to men to lie and wrongfully accuse (and men do so of course), men would do it in a statistically far greater frequency.
@Dinos Thank you for the very insightful response! I will read it and if I have anything to add I'll respond. For now I skimmed, and I am not at all surprised that the gender sentencing gap is an issue throughout the world. But again I'll fully read and analyze your post in a bit and I appreciate the insight a ton!!
1 like@Vinícius Egidio bullshit saying “multiple studies” doesn’t make it a fact which studies are these pray tell? 😂
0 likes@Vinícius Egidio linking the Wikipedia page for “sentencing disparity” has NOTHING to do with proving Casey Anthony was acquitted because she’s a woman. nice try though 👍
2 likes@Random Guy tell us his YouTube
0 likes@M all i said was wikipedia is not the best source for reliability. also who cares it's the internet not the fucking dictionary or the thesaurus im allowed to use slang or spell the way that i want to 😭
0 likesMust be that privilege again.
0 likes@Alexander Bell Name a case where a male got away with killing their kid.
0 likes@Alexander Bell babe it’s not rocket science. im pretty sure it’s a known fact that women have it much easier when it comes to crimes and being convicted of them. i mean a girl can say she was sexually abused at a young age and suddenly she’s not guilty which is EXACTLY what casey did💀💀
0 likesYo is Ashlyn Jeff?
0 likes@lily there is links in the Wikipedia. Follow those links (which are often reliable sources)
0 likes@a jedi youngling it’s about acknowledging studies and facts. Not about respect.
0 likesYes, Jeff is intelligent I must say... But he ain't that intelligent for me to lift his wallet whilst he's on the tilt from a big Ticky tickle
0 likesWake up Jeff.
"thanks for the coke" lmao
0 likesi would keep silent even for 48 hours interrogation
0 likes"ive got a lot of evidence"
0 likes"like what"
"i dont need to tell you"
"Wham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell"
1 likei think he understands his rights by not talking lol
0 likesThe narrator is right u know exactly what happened.
0 likesI can say with almost certainty that he didnt get sober & start his journey towards working for coca coca 12 hours later. That is a load of fu fu internet bullshit
0 likesI'm not rooting for Jeff, he needs to be slapped hard. As a recovering heroin addict I used 20 years &I never robbed anybody, he knows better🤪😜
0 likesLegends say Jeff is still sipping free Cokes
0 likesNot necessarily due to any of the overly analytic narration but I like this guy. I want to put some money on his books. Does anyone know if this can
0 likesbe done?
this guy should get his own movie
0 likes“thanks for the coke”
0 likes“you’re welcome😒”
This guy didn't even have to try to punk the cops. All these wannabe geniuses who get interrogated let their narcissism get in the way of them easily slapping away the elementary level manipulation detectives pull. I would personally act very similarly as him. I probably wouldn't be comedic gold with pitch perfect timing as this guy though. I would be sarcastically throwing back every bit of their bullshit back at them. I learned from a young age when detectives manipulated me into a corner and they never punked me again after that.
0 likesdidnt he ask for a lawyer why is the detective still talking to him thats against the law did he beat this case? should of got thrown out?
0 likesI’m confused why JCS posted a link to Jeff’s own channel and patreon.
0 likesJeff - "I'll tell no lie, you prick."
0 likes“Wham, Bam, thank you for the Coke.. Now put me back in the cell”
0 likes"No usually i'm the prick"
0 likes"You look like a price"
Ooof lmao ....
Has anyone been able to track Jeff ?
1 likeThis is hilarious
0 likes😂 now this is a good advert for bad santa, im going to have to watch that
0 likesFIVE hours later on H time...sorry I would be in the John by then with NO possibility of being anywhere else for the forseeable future....Thank the Lord I am not in a police station on H time! Forget the Anti....Jeff is a Hero!
1 like"You look like a prick" BRUH IM FUCKING DYING ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
0 likesWam, Bam. Thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell. - Jeff
0 likesHell yea!!! Jeff !!! " u r not my friend"
1 likeHahahahaha
How is the conclusion unknown? Doesn't this channel investigate at all the stories they cover or do they simply regurgitate old videos then give some pop-sci analysis?
0 likesJeff: u playing gud cop?
0 likesCop: no normally I'm the prick
He's honest. "I didn't do nothing" hence admits to have done something.
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0 likesWent from Heroin, to coke.
1 likeU have the right to remain silent. Do you under stand Jeff: ————-
0 likes#justice4jeff
0 likesjeff is not a hero or does he whant to be (i think), jeff is the example on what to do when talking to police you just dont.
0 likesSmart addict, he's right. 100% right, cops job is to find you guilty. Period. Where's my lawyer? Period.
0 likesi aspire to be like jeff
0 likesInterrogator: You have the right to remain silent
3290 likesJeff: Stays silent
Interrogator: Visible frustration
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CORRECTION; you blame
6 likesIt should read u
2 likes@just jeff OMG! 😱 It’S tHe ReAl JeFf. He’S aLiIiIiiiIiiIiIvE!?!! IcAn’t BeLiEvE hE’s ReAlLy HeRe!!!
4 likesU TUBE did it again TO ME
4 likes@just jeff :handshake: ........Jeff mah man..
0 likes@just jeff yo jeff huge fan here, hope you got off the heroine my guy
1 likeLmao
1 likeHe is very smart for an addict.
0 likes6’5 and 153 pounds??? Dude is a Skelton 💀
0 likesA drug addict though he may be, this dude is a lot smarter than anyone gives him credit. He knows how to handle these cops.
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Drug addict and smart are not mutually exclusive, that’s a pretty small-minded view
1 likeLegend indeed
0 likesJust want to point out that the cop violated his rights, as soon as Jeff said “I’m not talking to you. I want a lawyer.” The cop should have stopped talking and left the room. But he kept trying to get Jeff to talk.
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bro if I punched you on the face, and you told me you want your lawyer, would anyone else get involved?
14 likeswell the same applies for this case
Edit: I literally blabbered nonsense and apparently people somehow thought it was an actual opinion, I mean, I don't even know what they disagree of
@Ricicici 33 I disagree
89 likesRight...If they thought he was guilty and planned on charging Jeff.. They were never going to prosecute Jeff. Jeff could only claim he asked for a lawyer in court, which the detectives knew would never happen. He was a witness...at best. Them continuing to talk should have been an indicator that they didn't have shit. In fact, I think Jeff knows this and says so.
64 likes@Ricicici 33 what? This is absolutely not the same thing. Firstly, these guys are policemen, if they punched a member of public in the face for no reason, they'd be fired or something similar. Secondly, a member of public SHOULD uphold the law, whilst you're not a policeman, you wouldn't get in trouble for punching someone in the face once unless they held a position.
30 likes@hyacintho luna nah, in america police are required by law to stop all questioning once a suspect asks to speak to their lawyer
40 likesthe strong do as they wish, the weak suffer what they must. Never trust those claiming to be your master.
4 likes@Calvin Crowder This varies by state and jurisdiction. Tell an CenTex cop you want a lawyer, and prepare for a monologue
5 likesTypical.
0 likes@Ricicici 33 don’t write another comment ever again
5 likesThey can not force him against his will into the interrogation room without the lawyer present. They lured him into the room using food and drinks, to which he agreed. If anything, they failed to hold up their end of the deal of butterfingers.
3 likesIt seems like they just held him for the remaining of the time and then released him.
Different places have different rules. A lawyer takes time and they can detain him and talk to him. He just doesn't have to say anyrhing
0 likes@Gregory Esposito no it does not. Its constitution and spans all states.. ask for a lawyer, interview is terminated until they get there, any information gained before lawyer gets there after the sixth was invokes is inadmissable in court
5 likes@BuBulu with a golden dudul I will
0 likesOnce you ask for an attorney, you must stop speaking. Once you've started speaking and answering questions again, you've waived that request.
0 likesi dont know what the law says about it but in practice that never happens and you should expect this. the phrase "i want a lawyer" can be interpreted as just a expression that you would like to have a layer right now, as if you were talking about a feeling.
0 likesI NEED to know what happened to jeff
0 likes"The legend of Jeff"
0 likesEpic
Wham bam thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell.
0 likesThis guy man XD
Wtf part don’t people understand?! “I want a lawyer!” Duct tape- over the mouth. SHUT UP! There’s no talking after that statement. Everyone has a right to one my god! He even knows the whole system and the game and he continues to talk. Oy!
0 likesYou are in a paper suit and handcuffs. There is a good chance you are under arrest.
1 likei was in the police cells in the UK for 7 days & nights & had to drink water from the flushing toilet, the cell even had shit all over the walls, i do miss that cell
0 likesThe antihero phenomenon is not something superb in my opinion.. I don't find him or any other antiheros "amazing" or anything. Sure they don't behave as an everyday person should, and it's interesting to see, in the movies for example, the tale behind a supposedly evil person. But in real life, besides examining someone's history with the purpose of learning and later applying that knowledge, justifying any crime is just bullshit to me. Not in this case in particular, but in general, we learn to "justify" killers, rapists through "their tumultuous upbringing"; we often also learn to forget the lives these people impacted. In some occasions less concerning, like this guy who I suppose didn't kill anybody, but then there's criminals who have taken lives and we're showing "understanding" for the criminal, and completely forget about the victims with time.
0 likesAre there any more videos of people taunting interrogators?
0 likesI was rooting for Jeff
0 likesCop: now you have hand cuffed me.
0 likesWho needs Billy Bob when we have JEFF
0 likesSo, what actually happened to Jeff?
0 likesJeff: I want a coke
7279 likesOfficer: here ya go
Jeff: I want a lawy-
Officer: So anyway...
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Got you to 666 likes, you're welcome
23 likesMurica
43 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣
6 likesproof that coke uses heroine in its recipe.
13 likesNo motha-f*cka! I want "coke"! ha-ha-ha
4 likesGan XS is better
0 likes@IvyCuber eh I don't really like it, also the Guhong v2 on my pfp is just my first speedcube lol
0 likes@ShaNeeka Washington Nice that is racist af
4 likes@Krak Head go on then free all the murderers rapists and other kind if nasty individuals instead of just staying at the good point that some cops are bad at their jobs
4 likesBut ofc murder, robbery, assault and other things are irrelevant if you're colored, that's the way the world should go on obviously
@Jesus Christ 👀 that u?
0 likes@MoreJamsThanBread the one and only 🙏
0 likes@Jesus Christ i’m not christian but i gotta say bro you are the original chad i got major respect for you
2 likesIf anyone wants to hear jeff explaning what happened here you go : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0srs6NKm-s
1 likeWhy do they proceed with the interrogation after he'd asked for a lawyer?
0 likesGreat extra scene from the movie The Machinist!
0 likesFeds: u have the right to remain silent 🤫🤐
6 likesJeff : send me back to my cell dumb a$$ thanks fa da coke doe 😂🤞 Classic!!!!
“You have the right to stay silent”
7161 likesJeff: stays silent
“You understand”
I aint talking mate
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I was taken for questioning once as a suspect. I told them everything, got myself a cup of coffee, and was released. I was not the young girl they wanted to hold for the night.
70 likes@Javar Don't every add me in your crimes. I sing like a bella donna. 😇
34 likes@Kitty fuck that I ain’t snitching ever
14 likes@Tangerine octopus okay tangerine octopus
37 likes@okctrl fr 😂
1 likeHow you supposed to tell them you’re remaining silent if you’re remaining silent?
15 likes@subg88 you quite literally supposed to state if you are remaining quiet
2 likes@ditzyalpaca Nah, Jeff is just trying to make sure he isn't sentenced to a couple of decades behind bars convicted of something he didn't do.
12 likesHe has every right to stay silent even though it might be inconvenient for the people interrogating him.
..’and i took that personally’
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesHe's displaying confidence because he knows they have no evidence, they have no idea what they're talking about, they just want a confession.
5 likesAnd a confession without an evidence only helps the interrogator, but never the suspect. He knows this. He was basically baited and lied to, just to get a confession....
They didn't get one so they "let" him go
@The Artisan this guy knows, my dad got jumped by a guy and because "witnesses" (people who knew the guy who started it) called the police they made their minds up it was my dads fault and he got arrested and fined for assault he now has a record for someone attacking him , and the footage of the guy starting it mysteriously disappeared from the cameras on the street/establishment it happened at... police hardly bothered asking my dads side of the story and thought it was cut and dry because he was on his own and no body would stand up for him the system failed him.
4 likes@Robotische Hilfe weren't*
0 likes@Rhagos thanks... I am not a native speaker so it's good to learn :)
0 likes@Jake Bob wow, so unfair. This is why we have to fight this unjust system,
2 likesSo people like your father can have justice and can be free.
HAH
0 likesI’m weak😂🤣 he just said “ the only reason I came up here was to get a f**ken coke”…
0 likes"My client is clearly built different."
0 likes“You look like a prick.” 😂
0 likesSecond violation still asking questions when he already asked for an lawyer
0 likesWhen he says, “Long time buddy…” I can literally FEEL the pain, regret, sorrow, and shame in his voice. Get well Jeff, I have hope for you.
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He got clean
162 likesSeriously, it broke my heart to hear that. I feel bad for any addict, I can't imagine, thankfully.
71 likes@João Martins Proof?
13 likes@Troy Wallace Lad, I'm told he's got clean by people who theoretically know him. I chose to believe and I truly don't care whether or not you do the same.
42 likes@João Martins So you just repeat something you have no idea about as truth? Gotcha "lad"
60 likes@Troy Wallace pal, the dude who said it was quite detailed so yes, I considered it to be quite believable. As I said I don't really care if u believe it or not
24 likes@João Martins POST PROOF OR GTFO, PAL
26 likes@ResilientSweeper the pinned comment 😐
11 likes@Troy Wallace Jesus Christ you lot are thick look at the pinned comment he’s clean and is doing well look at his account
18 likesI felt that he knows the day he first tried heroin was the biggest mistake of his life.
1 like<---Another Junkie named Jeff, but clean and sober and thankful for recovery.
11 likes@pheffrey proud of you, jeff. :)
6 likesI’ve looked at his channel I see nothing about him being clean and he still looks and acts like he’s in the grips of active addiction not recovery.
2 likesMaybe I’m missing a few videos or something
ok
0 likes@João Martins Not sure about him being clean but when this video was initially posted somebody put up the link to his YouTube channel. He has a band or had depending on how things have gone since for him. In his own words, he didn't even know this video of him was circulating and many people were on there sending their regards and hoping the best for him. I'm sure the comment where the link was posted is somewhere still in here.
0 likes@Soul how can i find his channel?
0 likes@Ashley McMeakin it’s in the pinned comment
0 likesTroy over here woke up and chose violence
0 likes@ResilientSweeper You either had to search "Jeff The Anti Hero", read the pinned comment or the description. In fact JCS mentioned it at the end of the video. Your ignorance is proof why you don't deserve the right to think or act freely.
1 like@João Martins l o l
0 likesHe’s truly a broken soul. So sad
0 likes@João Martins my dear friend Evan met Eppstein in a bar two or so weeks back. It was around noon, he was drinking a beer and he was approached by a man who claimed he was eppstein. It sounds like that. Stop ducking like farming by benefiting from this sad cituation.
0 likesFor real tho
0 likes@João Martins "who theoretically know him" hahahahahahahaha
0 likesYou really need a good reason to get clean after so many years, withdrawal is a fucked up experience.
1 likeUnless you've been an addict you will never feel the pain
0 likes@Janice Scott , yeah, all the time knowing that you only need to make it stop is use "just one more time"...
0 likesCome on man 14 minutes.....I need more than that.
0 likesMan,iv been jeff but an English version and the cops used to purposely leave you in the cells to miss the sat morning court then get you out for interview and you'd be stuck in them damn cells till Monday detoxing. Fcuking dark times
0 likesThose cops had nothing. Only a couple pieces of evidence I'm missing lol. Ha, like him being there and the confession of him doing it. He didn't do that shit. He came out the front door of the house he said I didn't do shit at
0 likesHe had class 😂😂😂😂
0 likesThe moment he says, “I ain’t talking. I want a lawyer...at that moment, the interrogation MUST STOP. Any confession after this would be thrown out as coercive. that’s why that rule is there. These are baaaaad cops
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well... it's georgia!!! I'm not too surprised ;)
166 likesi mean, they are cops
271 likesJohn Hooper oh it’s a cop lover
204 likes@scarlet starlet For sure I do NOT side with murderers..
52 likesUnfortunately not true. The right to remain silent is the most important tool. Yes get a lawyer, but know the cops can and will keep questioning you. If anything they will put more pressure on you if they think you’re guilty. So it comes down to you to keep your mouth shut until your lawyer gets there.
177 likes@bbz232 For sure.. the overwhelming majority eventually gets tricked into talking, even though it's common knowledge to not talk under any circumstance. pretty hard when you're used to being 'respectful' during ordinary conversations..
50 likesSelf-incriminating evidence would be thrown out, yes. But, evidence toward another individual’s arrest wouldn’t. I get the feeling that these detectives didn’t think it was him the whole time and were trying to narrow down suspects or get more evidence as to what happened, not necessarily a confession.
29 likesi had no idea
0 likes@bbz232 Incorrect reply from a non-lawyer. When a person who is subject to custodial interrogation (not free to leave) requests counsel, all questioning must cease and any prompted statements are inadmissible. There are more nuances, read up (as in why he is reinterviewed after asserting right to counsel- Defendant can make unprompted request to speak to police after doing so and questioning may continue). Some criminal procedure may vary State to State, can't claim to know blanket rules, just PA and Federal. From an atty, thanks.
41 likes@John Hooper he didn't murder anyone, and the armed robber didn't either. DURRrrr
13 likes@John Hooper no its not ,.. interrogations Must stop .
6 likes@bbz232 no they cant , court ruling about that say otherwise
1 likeJohn Hooper you say that you love cops but don’t side with murderers? That’s a contradiction.
37 likesI think they were waiting for his withdrawal to kick in. Pretty disgusting tactics.
17 likesGaspar Forteza he wasn’t interrogating him actually
0 likesBelieve me it won't be thrown out😆😭🤣
2 likesACAB!
7 likes@Caitlyn Cook 100%!
1 likeI kept wondering about that. I thought it had to stop right then.
1 likeWell it's Georgia...explains a lot!
2 likes@John Hooper Virtue signaling...much?
3 likes@John Hooper No, it's actually not "on you." The second you request an attorney nothing that is said after that point is admissible. They denied him an attorney and used him withdrawal to break him down. That's coercion...and even a public defender would have that entire case against him dismissed and the cops would (should) have been reprimanded.
11 likes@M Pando Yeah sure.. If he keeps on talking it is on him.. You have to the right to remain silent.. But he did not.. it is simple..
2 likesanne ne oldu : huh? How so?
0 likes@Dorian Gray Very interesting.. but as I read this, it is very clear that its not black or white..
1 like@Dorian Gray So at minute 2:30 he clearly says he does not want to talk.. He also DID NOT ask for a lawyer.. They instantly abort the mission.. but they let him sit there for 2 hours.. Then another cop starts over.. The cop DOES NOT ask him about the case.. Jeff starts the conversation on his own.. These cops exactly know what they are doing and Jeff fucked up..
6 likesJohn Hooper I can appreciate you wanting to defend your position. But no, all questioning of any type must cease. It doesn’t matter whether they’re asking him about the case whether they’re asking him about his personal life wanting to be his friend. He is in an interrogation room being held for interrogation. The moment he asked for a lawyer, the cop needs to put them back in the cell and give them the opportunity to call a lawyer. That’s it. It’s black-and-white. I do agree with you, the cops know exactly what they’re doing. The system, unfortunately, is not perfect.
5 likes@Dorian Gray He did not ask for a lawyer.. I have told you already..
1 likeDo you really believe any of the five levels of courts below SCOTUS would throw out a conviction for armed robbery unless OJ's attorneys were representing him? In the real world, most conviction are illegal. Only the rich and/or famous have a chance at ultimate justice.
2 likes@Nate Leal The rich already have lawyers on retainer. They don't say, "I want a lawyer". They say, "call attorney so and so before anything else happens." And the police know that a real lawyer will have their ass if they try to play games.
1 like@Dodged a Bullet Incorrect. He's obviously already in jail (looks like a suicide watch suit he's wearing, but idk for sure) which is why he says "put me back in the cell." Jeff must've said he'd talk to police which is why they interview him again and reread his Miranda rights. You can talk to police whenever you want even after you lawyer yourself up. You still retain the right to waiver the Miranda warning. But Jeff never said anything anyways.
3 likesEdited: Grammar.
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0 likes@scarlet starlet How is he a cop lover for believing people should think before speaking... or not speaking? Since you made the assertion you must be an antifa member.
3 likesCome on people it used to be taught on the playground loose lips sink ships think about it. You have the right to remain silent but the question is do you have the capability?
2 likes@r s yeah right. Like court rulings have stopped stuff from happening ever.
1 like@Idollize where did he say he loved cops?
1 like@alia meow then what was that?
0 likes@Dodged a Bullet millennial-ing much?
1 like@Emperor Shaddam IV I don't mean to be rude but what the hell is ACAB
2 likesA lot of know-nothings here trying to disprove an intelligent person. Yep this is the internet.
1 like@Emperor Shaddam IV thank you I appreciate that
1 likeT/A Plus Hemi someone called him a cop lover, which he then agreed with.
0 likesT/A Plus Hemi you got the definition of ACAB from someone who doesn’t support it, which is fair, but my two cents as a supporter of ACAB is that it’s just a phrase to say that the current system when it comes to police is pretty shit, and while cops as individuals may be perfectly fine people, they still work for and support a shitty system that hurts a lot of people.
3 likes@Idollize it was the abbreviation I was asking to be deciphered. I don't care about anyone's movement or ideas. I've got my own movement it's called ISLE. The point of our group is to remain just me, as founder president and head of moral standards, myself as the VP and treasurer and I usually is in charge of coordinating meetings outings and ISLE Awards banquets. So thank you for telling me about yours you are kind.
3 likesAbsolutely not thats not how it works at all.
0 likesT/A Plus Hemi lmaoo alright.
0 likesVin Kie It’s also difficult to stay in an interrogation room alone for hours with the only interruption being an interrogation.
0 likes@Idollize He didn't say, or agree, that he loves cops. He just said he doesn't side with murderers.
1 likeB Sheppard someone said “oh, he’s a cop lover”, to which he replied “for sure.” Interpret that how you’d like, but I personally take it as him admitting to loving cops.
0 likes@Idollize He replied "For sure I do NOT side with murderers..". Why would you only read the first two words?
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0 likes@bbz232 I know it's you that's wrong. What this guy said is absolutely true. I'm a lawyer and I've gotten evidence where people first have said they don't want to talk and want a lawyer and then in that same interview a few minutes later let information go that they maybe shouldn't. The two times that. Has happened I've got the evidence that the cops got after the fact that the person declined to speak and ask for a lawyer thrown out. What does gentleman said when someone says they want a lawyer and they don't want to talk the interview has to stop. And before any of the evidence that can be used that the accused says after that. He has two again re-read the guy his rights before what he says can be submitted in court. It's you that is wrong and what this guy said is absolutely right.
0 likes@Vin Kie no he's not right. Yes cops later can trick or whatever to get somebody to confess. But they first then again have to re-read this guy's rights. Just as that gentleman said that you're commenting under. Once the accused says he wants a lawyer and does not want to talk. Anyting he says after that can be argued to not be submitted as evidence. Like I said the cop would have to then again re-read this guy has rights and get him to say what he said again. It's funny how you people want to interpret the law when none of you are even lawyers and it's obvious. If any of you were a lawyer. Which I assume the guy who originally wrote this comment might be. In law school this point is drilled in your head. If you got caught up on something that you said after you didn't want to talk. That's just because you didn't have a good lawyer to argue for you. A good enough lawyer to identify that these cops got their statement after he declined to speak with them. Any lawyer knows that you can get evidence thrown out that was said after they declined to speak with cops. Again the cop would have had to reread the person his rights and then ask him to repeat what he said. If anybody comes back and says otherwise and says they're a lawyer I do not believe them that they are actually really a lawyer as myself. I've worked in the criminal court system for over 20 years. 8 of those years I spent as a court-appointed attorney in Washington State. This is no different in Georgia. The reason why this guy has thousands of comments is because he's correct.
1 like@Chez LeMac finally someone with a brain. I'm actually an attorney and you explained it more professionally than myself LOL. But that's what I'm explaining that the guy who made the original comment is absolutely correct. I'm glad you pointed out the fact that that's why these cops had to keep coming back with this guy and rereading him his rights. I was trying to explain that once he says he doesn't want to talk and ask for a lawyer. Everything he says after cannot be used unless they re-read the man his rights then make him repeat what he said.
0 likes@Kristi Black what are you talkin about? Actually what are you trying to even say? Are you saying that cops are low-level Freemason? Yes it's possible just like any profession for someone to be a Freemason or as you say even a low-level Freemason. . When you talk about low-level I guess you mean people that are in the The Apprentice stage? Because even a police officer can be also a journeyman or a master. There's been cops who reach the 33 degree of Freemasonry. No it's not common but it has happened. Do you know the guy who played Kramer on Seinfeld is US 33 degree Mason. You don't have to be a president or someone of great importance to be a Freemason. So you really don't know what you're talkin about and only probably starting to Dabble and conspiracies without knowing or even caring to know the full truth. All you probably do is hear the name Freemasonry and think bad, evil and control the world. But no it's not really the Freemasons who control the world. If I were to actually say who controls the world as far as power. My comment would be reported and taking down or not even put up or anybody else to see about myself. That's because a lot of channels like possibly this one has their comments go through a review process that YouTube so they can pick and choose which comments they want to go up. But back to Freemasonry and your comment. Can you explain yourself further instead of like some meth addict
0 likes@alia meow go look up the definition of interrogate. It doesn't have to be aggressive interviewing to be considered interrogation. Interrogation can also be formal interviewing.. hot it surprises me how many people will just open their mouth and say something when they don't really know s***
0 likes@Miley Morales yep exactly. It's good to see others also have a brain. It's obvious that these people watch too many movies and believe everything in them.
1 like@thomas 777 Thanks for clarifying!
0 likes@John Hooper do do you need to just stop talking. I am an attorney and you don't know what you're talkin about. If you are being interviewed, interrogated anyway you want to say it. Once you say that you want to talk to an attorney. Anything that is said after that they cannot use unless day read you your rights again and then get you to repeat what you said. If you were 2 let's say being charged of murder. They have no evidence on you except someone just said you committed this murder. They sit you down and you tell them I don't want to speak to you. Then you tell them you want a lawyer. Then let's say after you did that you mediately said to them I am guilty of this murder. They could in no way even if they had you recording saying that. There is no way that that will be used in court. Even if your lawyer somehow missed that the judge would catch it and not allow it. You do not know what you're talkin about. It's just crazy that you will go on or several people on here Will Go On acting like what they're saying is the truth. But all they have to do is a simple Google search to find out the truth. But they don't and they just continue pushing their BS. Go to your Yellow Pages right now and pick any lawyer you want and then you call them and ask them if that's true. I'm sure not a lawyer one will tell you what you're saying is factual
0 likesWhat do expect from a corrupt state like Georgia that even does everything they can to stop people from voting.
0 likesYou know, not every single cop is bad, and I honestly think all y'all want to hate on everyone of them. Not every single one of them, are bad we have amazing police officers too, and in reality, we need them, yes, they need to be retrained and have more sensitive training, and they need to be trained a lot longer, but not every single one of them are bad, and it's ridiculous to act like they all are.
1 likeIf people are stupid enough to keep talking then that's on them. I have no sympathy for a murderer whatsoever, even if cops murder, but not every single cop is bad, we do have a lot of wonderful and amazing police officers stop hating on every single one of them.
1 likeBut this guy wasn't a murderer, I think they were just questioning him about it.
Coercive, and all those other "rules" are not practiced in any way shape or form they could've used it in court and convicted him with it
0 likesYeah, it should be thrown out, but they won't. Bad judges allow it all the time in despite of the protest of the defence lawyers.
0 likesAs well, I have never heard them read him his Miranda rights!!!!!
@Chez LeMac read the cases my boy, the non lawyer is right
0 likes@Joy Walker They're the ones that make it seem like they all are. They don't need much help with that.
0 likesThey know if they wait until he's in full withdrawal he'll tell them anything they want, and that's all they want, regardless of fact.
0 likesWell, it is fuckin Georgia. Florida’s uncle-brother-daddy. 🙄
0 likesSure but they can still use whatever the suspect says as tips for their investigation. Clever cops could say it was hearsay (not directly coming from the suspect).
1 like@Bill A the investigation was about the suspect..
0 likesIs there such a thing as a good one? I’d argue there isn’t.
0 likes@excep7 Read em and weep XD Criminal Procedure was one of my strong suits back in lawyer school. An explicit request for an attorney requires all questioning to cease. If the suspect makes an ambiguous or equivocal statement concerning the right to legal counsel following an unequivocal waiver of the right to counsel, the officer does not need to stop and ask clarifying questions.
0 likesThough the suspect’s invocation of the right to counsel absolutely cuts off interrogation, the suspect may open the door to additional interrogation by initiating communication with officers (Minnick v. Mississippi, 498 U.S. 146 (1990); Edwards v. Arizona, 451 U.S. 477 (1981)).
@Chez LeMac Son, did you even read what you quoted? If the suspect re engages, the exclusion rule doesn't apply. If your advice is "feel free to keep talking after you asked for a lawyer," that is just stupid.
0 likes@Dorian Gray you couldn’t be more wrong. Let me explain. If a suspect asks for an attorney, but they continue talking to him afterwards, and the suspect makes an incriminating statement, then the suspect or his counsel can file a motion to suppress any incriminating statements made after invoking his right. Now carry on
0 likesDid this video get re-editied?? I swear there was a part where he talked about body language analysis and the detective talking about the gun over at Eric's house.
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@Butter Block what?? Man that's sum bs fr that was one of my favorite parts of the video. I thought I was trippin and just couldn't find it. Hate YT bruh
1 likeSo what did really happen to him? I neeed to know
0 likesYou have the right to remain cilence
0 likesJeff: USE
Humanity isn't selflessness and grace. There can be a glimmer of humanity long before anything like that is shown. If a "glimmer of humanity" is put down to selflessness and grace then most anti-heroes fail at being anti-heroes.
0 likeshe, accused of robbery asked faster for a lawyer than everyone involved in murder
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@Mary Poppins i said he ASKED quickly for a lawyer not “he should get a lawyer” 😐😐
19 likesI feel like murder is usually just the crime of a stupid person
25 likesSeriously, blows my mind.
3 likesI wish more people would pay attention to this, Jeff told the cops the truth. He said I know you don't have any evidence or you wouldn't be talking to me this much. Bingo, release in 12 hours
17 likes@Mary Poppins 🙄=arrogant
5 likes@Mary Poppins Today's "Snide Bitch" reward goes to...
6 likesLITERALLY this dude is smart af lol
1 likeMurderers usually aren't experienced criminals.
0 likesI'm confused. He can't get a lawyer? Sounds fucked up
0 likes@Mary Poppins Everything will be okay, princess.
1 likeI’d imagine people who would be dumb and evil enough to murder would not want to look guilty by asserting their right to a lawyer. Like that girl who hired people to kill her parents because they didn’t want her wasting her life on their dime. If someone really broke into your house and killed your parents (or tried in the case of the father) in a robbery gone wrong then surely you’d just help, right? I think that’s as far as they think.
0 likesIt's the most intelligent question for EVERYONE, innocent or guilty, to ask for a lawyer when being accused on something . Never ever talk to the police alone when they accuse you of doing illegal shit , in their eyes you're the predator anyways.
1 like@Bálint Vass just 500 wtf kinda financial boost is that that’s like rent in shitty apartment… the importance of a “,”
1 like@Daniel Mendoza So much for trying to be careful and copy-pasting directly from an article. Thanks for pointing the error out!
0 likes@sadi al The monitoring shit is borderline abusive, but other than that it's sheer bad parenting to me, no more, no less. Her mother actually sacrificed her own life for Jennifer under the false pretense that her daughter was in grave danger too, when in fact Jennifer was responsible for her mother's murder and the attempted murder on her father. They loved their daughter, she hated them.
0 likes@Mary Poppins Everyone should ask for a lawyer regardless of innocence, guilt or past history that's our right as a citizen
2 likesKenneth Cortez Mary Poppins = right
0 likesThis guy sound's like my grand uncle.
0 likesI like this guy he's cool
0 likeswham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell"- Jeff "the only reason I came up here was to get a coke" smith
0 likesHe reminds me of my dad
0 likesTbh it’s hard to dislike this guy. I hope he’s cleaned his act up.
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He has he now has a YouTube channel
28 likes@Clever Strachan wat is it
3 likes@2tneqay it's in the description
7 likesHe has and has his own YT channel. This isn’t new. Watched it several times already
5 likes@Ja2808 good for you, your tone is so pissy you're annoying
70 likes@Buggle Magnum glad to annoy you. Have a good day youngin.
2 likesThen let him stay at your house Chrystal
3 likes@Art Lover 😂😂😂😂 what??
6 likes@Buggle Magnum did you get offended by someone saying that it wasn’t old?
0 likes@CC big sense of humor to go along with ur heart. adorable 😁
1 like@CC well you think he's a nice guy right?! There shouldn't be any issues with him staying at your house! Right?! Oh he would like you! I'm being facetious.
3 likes@Clever Strachan ee
0 likesEeeoe
0 likes@Art Lover 😂😂😂😂 omg, He’d hate my house, I’m a neat freak & I barely cook. He’d be running away in 2 days. 💀💀
2 likesYea, right? I was noticing the comments were kinda liking him, so before I thought this was one of those cases were the suspect is innocent. I hope he cleaned his act up as well.
0 likesWhere can I watch more of your videos please
0 likesPlot Twist - "Jeff" works for the CIA and is undergoing a clandestine counter-interrogation training program. This was his last test before graduation as an espionage specialist.
0 likesAnyone know what happened to Jeff? Like do any research or anything?
0 likesWhat good are the free lawyers though?? Always thought about that…
0 likes"you have the right to remain silent"
5501 likesremains silent
"do you understand?"
remains silent
"do you comprehend the right I've just said to you?"
remains silent
I'm only a minute in and I love this guy
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I was thinking the same thing
73 likesThis guy is a total madlad
40 likesGood one, Pixie, made me chuckle. :)
10 likes🤣🤣🤣
2 likesUnfortunately, SCOTUS has ruled that you must articulate reserving your right to remain silent. Simply remaining silent doesn't invoke it.
28 likesBerghuis v. Thompkins
The real fuck-up here was when they continued to interrogate him after he demanded an attorney before answering any questions, even if they coerced him to momentarily waive that right by falsely agreeing to give him some candy and then reneging, negotiating in extremely bad faith.
He's pretty humorous tbh, no matter what he did
4 likesIt's like when someone JINX you
0 likes@Ashley Starlight I don't literally mean I love the guy... It's a figure of speech for the fact that I found him really funny.
0 likesreally tho this man gleeced for a coke haha
1 likelmaoo yep
0 likesThat is exactly what I thought too Pixie! Smart guy.
0 likesIf i ever commit a crime ...which i wont...im going this route
0 likesJeff for the win
1 likeI had to tell my Dr that if he didn't want to help me I would have to go to the street and I DID NOT want to go back to that!!! I didn't
0 likeswhat makes me laugh these days is no smoking i would say to the cops if i was in a cell i need a smoke and until you prove im guilty i can have a some so i require someone to take me outside at least once an hour for a smoke or its the human rights court
0 likesdoes no one actually know what happened to him ?
0 likesNever thought I'd see a character analysis on a real life person that exists
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Character analysis on human beings is basically what profilers do
41 likes@Samuel Bennett Yes! But when you are given an example in school it’s usually some very unrealistic and stupid model character 😕 not many teachers use real people (for that I know of)
9 likes@Šimon Láznička the whole character analysis theories are based on real life
4 likesWait, since when was Jeff un-blurred??
0 likesmy favourite video on your channel
0 likesThe problem is that if he has been in a heroin addiction for 14 years!
0 likesIf he isn’t given methadone or any other treatment against his addiction!
He can die, it’s extremely dangerous just going cold turkey with heroin!
Update: Guys he wasn't arrested (obvi he was falsely accused). he has a Youtube channel titled "The Legend of Jeff". link to his channel
0 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0srs6NKm-s
If I ever meet Jeff, I’m buying the dude a Butterfinger.
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And a coke
84 likes@_ I think his thing.... is uh.. heroin
54 likes@Nigel Lush lmao no u just gonna give my buddy Jeff more drug problems😭 just give him a coke and some herion he should be good
4 likesYou don't have to buy him anything. He'll just take it by force.
3 likesI'll buy him a bag of heroine for this one. I haven't laughed so hard in ages.
1 likeHe will steal it from you lol
1 like@Nigel Lush blush
1 like@Nigel Lush hope you’re good bro
0 likes@Erica Z THANK YOU!😂🤣
0 likes@Aaron Hollander gonna open a bank vault with a peice of the can like the lock picking lawyer
1 likehe has a youtube channel. check the pinned comment
0 likesFuck yeah! Freaking smart!
0 likesI would get him coke... I mean a coke... wait... what...?
0 likesCoke?? They should have given him a Lone star beer instead!
0 likesSmartest addict I have ever seen wow 🤩
0 likesSelf note: Coke Cola for withdrawal symptoms 📝
0 likesWham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell.
0 likes💀
“the only reason i came up here is to get a fucking coke” iconic
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🤯😭
5 likesStraight savage
14 likesMe to my family after finally coming out of my room
30 likes@TrashPanda yo you said this 33 seconds and literaly 1 minute ago my brother said the samme thing
10 likesMe when I donate blood.
4 likesThe fact that one of the theories is that he works in the corporate marketing team for Coca-Cola is the cherry on top!
5 likesThis would make a terrific coke ad
0 likes(Don’t do Heroin, do coke!)
How can you not know the outcome?
0 likesWhat happened to the part where they ask him about a gun and he he automatically says he doesnt know anything about a gun
0 likesThat junkie is in prison, he's not working for Coke...whoever made that up needs to get their head checked.
0 likeshe’s a very obviously smart man, it really is a shame that his life went down this path. i wish him luck!
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@DONALD Duck no, i mean in the way he talks. doing drugs is very stupid, but as my comment said “it really is a shame that his life went down this path”
111 likesno need to be so negative
@Meme Juice {they-them} I completely agree with your comment. Even if people make dumb decisions you can tell in the way he talks he’s not by any means an idiot. If things had ended up differently he might have done big things in his life time
51 likes@sadi al I love how you call other people names instead of putting up constructive arguments, really does reenforce ur arguement
17 likes@Mobiyus well said
2 likes@sadi al really? U think Einstein and Thomas edison didn't take drugs.....*laughs in smarts and highs lol
8 likes@DONALD Duck he’s smarter then 80% of ppl on the internet
0 likesSmart ppl do drugs like Albert Einstein
0 likes@John Semmens chill out man. at the end of the day not everyone just chooses, and even if they did who knows what they thought would come of it? let’s not group a whole bunch of people together please.
0 likesI guarantee some sort of existential nihilism provoked by a tumultuous childhood lead him to Heroin, he seems very self aware
0 likes@DONALD Duck u think name urself Donald duck is smart, I see.
0 likesWam and bam, thank you for the coke.....now put me back into the cell....I nearly died :D
0 likesHeroine withdrawal can be fatal. Would he not have a right for medical treatment before being questioned?
0 likesThey rlly tryna bribe him with a butterfingers 💀💀
0 likes"how about that butterfinger you promised? "
0 likesAs a former heroin addict, as well as someone who went through the justice system in my state, I genuinely hope that guy really is working for Coca-Cola and is living the dream.
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Me too.
12 likesYes!!!
2 likesMe too!!!🙂👍
2 likesDitto
1 likeI wonderHow many executives at Coca Cola are named Jeff
2 likesWhy is he being questioned?
0 likesYeah but I think the latter was more realistic....
7 likesBtw I was an addict too. A
3 likeslong time buddy
You sound like somewhat of a anti-hero yourself!! Good job tho!
0 likes@Sandra C Myers 100% but we can dream
0 likesMan, looks like I found my crew here.
1 likeMe too. But I doubt it.
0 likesYeah me too. I’m an ex addict to and is like watching myself seeing poor old Jeff here. It’s a fricken nightmare when you get nicked and you start rattling off the smack. In my early years and when I wasn’t well known to the feds I would just confess just to get out on bail because I needed a fix. But as the years roll bye you just canny afford to get mugged off else you’re looking at time.
1 likeMe too
0 likesthis is proof positive that the police will railroad you guilty or not. hope these cops were fired for trying to violate this guys rights. just tell me your side, i didn't do anything, i want a LAWYER, just tell me and....3 more times same shit.
0 likesHe has gotten better, hes off drugs and playing the drums!
0 likesReal shame that cop cheated him out of his butterfinger. He definitely deserved it.
0 likesThings like that Make you change your mind bout defund the Cops.
0 likesHim not saying anything is a pretty clear as day indication he understands his rights.
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This is a perfect example of how to handle one of these situations.
37 likesThe detective asking you questions has one job and one job only, to get you in as MUCH trouble as possible and to get as much info out of you as possible so he can use it against you in court.
People have to understand that when you’re in a room like that these people will act like your friend but they are your enemy from the beginning and are looking to slap you with whatever offense they can just by using the words you used while talking to them.
what you just said is a catch 22
4 likesWhere the fuck was the laywer he asked for
3 likesnot by the law so technically no
1 likeOr..... you could just look him up in the GA prison system
0 likesJEFF, HES BACK, JCS YOUR VIDEOS ARE BACK (SOME OF THEM)
0 likesIf you aren’t gonna get that man a lawyer at least give him his dam butterfinger.
0 likesI really want a coke now. This is good advertisement
1 like"You have the right to remain silent"
938 likesJeff: remains silent
Cop: WTF DUDE TALK
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Lmao
3 likesLol
2 likesLol
0 likesHe looks like someone Christian bale would play.
2 likesAite imma need someone to find out what happened to jeff tho
0 likesCan't help but like him
0 likesI love Jeff.
0 likes“You have the right to remain silent”
3622 likesJeff: silent
Officer: 😑
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no replies?
5 likes@A J no
6 likesUnfortunately that means he understood his rights and will be used against him
21 likesFunney
1 like@Peter thanks for replying
2 likesI think this jeff guy needs to care about his health,two cokes is too much
0 likesWam bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell.
1 likeI highly doubt he's a marketing employee for coke. Just a theory though.
0 likesJeff represents all of us in Georgia
0 likesCop: You have a right to remain silent
3618 likesJeff: remains silent
cop: surprised pikachu face
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Most don't. Most fail.
5 likes@Donald Ducks i wouldnt call it failing but idk the american justice system is kinda fucked.
10 likesHaha
1 likeHaha
0 likes@godsent gg Thought you were plugging your Soundcloud or sumn but wow. It's really him
5 likesOh dayum, it took me like 5 seconds to realize that he's just playing by hi rights...
0 likes@godsent gg holy shit i guess he got better
0 likesWam bam thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell lmao
0 likesHe only heard you have the right to remain silent
0 likesHow is his outcome a mystery? Court records are public
0 likesThe Legend of Jeff: Breath of the Crime
1 likeVirgin Norman: works a job, goes to a store, buys a coke.
3119 likesChad Jeff: gets accused of armed robbery, gets a few cokes from the cops, gets back to his life.
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be like jeff 😌
74 likesJeff is an absolute Alpha male
49 likes"life" is a weird way to spell "heroin"
30 likesthis is hilarious
1 like@Elizabeth Burgess he is sigma
0 likes@prod. steezey you mean that meme term lonely basement dwellers invented as a coping mechanism? No, Jeff definitely isn't that
1 like@Bronek0990 m
1 like@Bronek0990 cope
1 like@Fang1241 true
2 likes@prod. steezey you are theta
0 likes@Bronek0990 you just dont respect the hustle sigma grindset 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
0 likesOr maybe we should help our addicts rather than putting them into a pig pen where drugs are everywhere.. we treat them and put them with criminal's when they need substance abuse help..
0 likesOh wait, there's no money to be made if addicts are recovering... Let's give em narcan and Suboxone and synthetic opiate's to deter them off the hardcore stuff and into the pharmaceutical stuff..... Absolute evil of a system.
What if I root for the villains?
0 likesAt 6'5 and 153 lbs he can just squeeze through his cell bars and walk out of the place
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I wish that was how it worked
1 likeHe said he wanted a lawyer
0 likesofficer: “u have the right to stay silent”
6812 likesJeff: “*stays silent*”
officer: “*surprised pikachu face*”
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Congrats, you're unoriginal.
117 likesArisette
7 months ago
officer: “you have the right to remain silent”
jeff: remains silent
officer: 👁👄👁
@tie Nice 👍
56 likes@potatomantiger Chad
18 likes@tie yours wasn’t funny
13 likes@cris none ? When did I ever make an attempt to be humorous
8 likes@tie congrats, you realized that not everyone on the internet is original
32 likes@tie oh shit spider is 12!😂😭
3 likes@Da Feef why are you so obsessed with a supposed 12 year old? or are you just projecting... 🤣
11 likesLol
0 likes@tie Oh yeah my two comments, both making fun of you, I'm "obsessed". 😂 How am I projecting by basically saying your comments were immature? Explain.👀
3 likes@Da Feef If you're so mature why didn't you just leave it be, Mother Teresa? All I did was highlight the lack of originality within the YouTube comment section. The guy's initial comment was basically a 1:1 copy of the one directly above his (not saying either is remotely funny IMO). I just told it like it is.
8 likes@tie not funny
15 likes@tie not.. funny.. at all
15 likes@tie absolutely not funny
17 likes@OneUp- 18 I want him to be around, what are you gonna do about it ?
4 likes@Elegant Monstrous oh look at Mr Hero over here. Did I say I was going to do anything about it?
10 likes@OneUp- 18 Never said I was a hero, I just wanted the dude to comment again. Now, what are you gonna do about it ?
2 likes@Elegant Monstrous again as I said did I say I was going to do anything about it? Did you miss your hospital appointment about your memory or something
7 likes@OneUp- 18 I didn't miss anything, but you did. What are you gonna do about it ?
2 likes@Elegant Monstrous uh huh... yeah clearly I missed something. Or I guess in your words "What are you gonna do about it?"
6 likes@OneUp- 18 Yeah what are you gonna do about it ?
2 likes@Elegant Monstrous yknow all this time you've been asking what am I going to do about it but I am now wondering, what are YOU going to do about it?
6 likes@OneUp- 18 By asking you what are you gonna do about me asking you what are you gonna do about it ?
1 like@Elegant Monstrous to be completely honest I see no point in this no more and wish to not make this one of those comment threads that big youtubers like Penguinz0 talk about though actually that would be cool but I'm sure you can get my point that I can't be bothered making this a huge long thing that's kind of pointless so goodbye and good day to you sir/ma'am
4 likes@OneUp- 18 its astonishing how stupid can people be in comments.
1 like@tie So... You are 12.
7 likesthe combined IQ of every commenter in this section is very close to how many comments there are, including mine
7 likes@cris none lmfao
0 likes@tie Comment plagiarism is a rampant disease
0 likes@OneUp- 18 and I thought I was pathetic... 🤣
2 likes@tie yes... yes you are
2 likes@OneUp- 18 thought you left?
1 like@tie yes because that's what happens when you comment at someone doesn't it
1 like@tie bro you have too much time on your hands
2 likes@Anon Emouse if the amount of stuff i said could seriously put a dent in your free time you need to take typing lessons
5 likesanyways i'm bein a jerk was just noticing how deep you went into the thread it's all good homie we all been there. as to typing lessons, it's the youtube comment section, not James Joyce
1 like@Anon Emouse k haha
0 likes@Curiosity no you're 12
1 like@TecateGPT oh hi you're 12 too? 😂
1 like@Curiosity I bet you just turned 13 like a month ago, so now you are just calling everyone 12 cuz you are no longer 12 😂
0 likes@tie see spider, this is why people hit y'all with rolled up papers and shoes....
3 likes@tie I’m with u all the way. Can’t stand when tools copy comments and post them like they’re original.
2 likes😂😂
0 likes@tie you seem rather... bitter.
2 likes@tie congrats everyone on youtube is even yer comment saying he is happens to be quite unoriginal
0 likes@Jared Kravor neither is yours, neither is this one
0 likes@tie and neither is this one about that one but hey its youtube
0 likes@tie is that supposed to be insulting 😭😭
2 likes@deckman bestie no but why did you like your own comment
2 likes@tie you really gotta nitpick everything in life huh 😪
2 likes@deckman bestie why are you crying? don't get upset :/
0 likes@deckman bestie your words don’t mean much considering I graduated from middle school
0 likes@deckman bestie Radio Silence
0 likes@tie wow its almost as if humans can have similar ideas shocker
1 like@tie read my initial comment
0 likesDamn, gotta get the popcorn for this comments section
2 likes@tie woah out of tens of thousands of people two people have similar ideas for a meme? damn that's freakin NUTS, a coincidence like that is ASTRONOMICAL, 100% gotta be copied, unoriginal, dogshit comment.
1 like(hint: turn on sarcasm detectors)
@OneUp- 18 well, i do want them around
0 likes@JustMeHere _ oh wow. Basic unoriginal idea even if they think of it themselves, is still considered original!!
1 like(hint: turn on sarcasm detectors)
@F Y aww aren't you just a nice guy
0 likes@tie congrats, it doesn't matter. which job you got? the originality police?
0 likes@JustMeHere _ anyways at the time that the comment was written, the top comment nearly identical and had a few words switched up, so I’m positive they copied it but this was blown way out of proportion lmfao
0 likes@tie 👁👄👁
0 likes" My name Yeff"
0 likes... oh, it's not that video. I'll see myself out.
Cop litteraly doesn't care if his innocent or not. Just wants to keep the conversation going. Evil
0 likesCoke and heroine, his two favorites
0 likesI can’t believe your videos are all gone
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There are more on flaming kitsune channel
0 likes"i want a lawyer" - cop ignores it. Everything after that is not valuable in a court.
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Bold of you to assume the cops play by the rules
1187 likes@BatJeff aLl CoPs ArE bAd
186 likesMost of them are
686 likesIncorrect. Everything you say can and will be held against you. It is what he says before having his rights read that cannot be used in court.
287 likes@Blindeyeseesfar that is not true anything they say in the interview can be used against them, even before their rights are read, watch the other videos on this channelq
77 likes@Blindeyeseesfar "Used" yes, but the quality of its use is in question. That's where the lawyers have room.
81 likesNope. It was all perfect according to Miranda. Interrogation immediately stopped. Officer is allowed to ask questions peripherally which he did, nothing was "what happened " line. If suspect initiates any conversation, it is admissable. Also you can't tell if you don't watch closely but otherwise it's obvious thar these are multiple interviews. He was returned to holding and he requested to talk again mainly to keep getting Cokes....and a Butterfinger. See the sixteen minute mark. Also the officers went above and beyond because they did not have to read his rights every time like they did unless 14 days had passed.
79 likes@Exandah MoSt Of ThEm ArE... i bet you are 13 years old white lgbt girl
87 likes@TrAsH It's 2020. Safe to assume that's an "adult".
54 likes@TrAsH You're not making a good case for your side unless you're just trying to rile people up.
148 likesSome police officers are great people others are the dregs of society. However, what is certain is that it's a profession that will give a gun to just about anyone and because they don't pay well either the lowest of the low go for the job or those who really want to make a difference. Look at public school teachers for example. Some of the nicest people in the world when they do the job because they want to help children and also has some of the absolute most despicable people that just want to have power over children
Finally someone who notice this.. I was like "where is the lawyer?"
27 likes@Exandah most cops are bad? Silly children
17 likes@You Won’t Reply acab doesnt mean all cops are bad.
22 likes@moo i never even said the word acab. I know it stands for all colors are brethren. I’m making fun of everyone who thinks all cops are bad
8 likes@Blindeyeseesfar unless you are not
0 likesMirandized before questioning
BatJeff so many people don’t understand this 💁♀️💁♀️ they will put u through of a hell of a fight to challenge them even in court. Money and time and agony
1 like@BatJeff bold of you to think that most cops are bad
4 likes@You Won’t Reply they are.
11 likes@Lidesia1733 k kkkkkkkkkkkkk k,. .w,0
0 likes@TrAsH k
0 likesCops aren't interested in guilt but in results hence why there are so many laws put in place to protect people against the police. Only a naive idiot will automatically assume they're on your side.
36 likes@DANIEL BIN OMAR - lool if that was the case then why do so many police officers and blue lives matter people worship the Punisher, a fictional character whose entire thing is murdering criminals?
18 likes@TrAsH What sucks is the ones that are bad are often protected even by the good ones. This gives an overall appearance of them being bad. Especially when it comes to how they handle peaceful protesters. Key word peaceful. But if you are ok with what’s been going on, on that end there’s no way we’ll agree or come to a common ground.
19 likes@DANIEL BIN OMAR - Police don't deal out justice, but okay.
22 likesNo one is demanding vigilantly justice. Most of us want stronger social programs to help make LEOs jobs easier. And then of course proper vetting and training of LEOs.
@DANIEL BIN OMAR - demanding a change to a broken system that doesn't work is the same thing as wanting crime to run rampant??
25 likes@DANIEL BIN OMAR - Life is not black and white. Sometimes there will be gray areas. This is one of those gray areas. I'm not a moderate. Just firm enough in my opinions to not be constrained into thinking my options are "right" and "left."
14 likesGood luck on the radicalization, though.
@DANIEL BIN OMAR - Oh damn. I took the bait. Rip me.
8 likesIts very naive of you guys to think that anything after when he asked for a lawyer not being able to be used. I have seen first hand that very thing happen, an addict kept in a room withdrawing asks for a lawyer keeps asking and keeps being left in the room to squirm eventually tells on himself just to get out of the room after continued questioning.. the cops have no interest or concern of playing by the rules or LAWS even tho they are such good/honorable people LOL they are scum, ALL of them.. not 1 would say hey, the kid asked for a lawyer, let’s just stop cuz we won’t be able to use this... NOT ONE. And so if not ONE would do that, you then can CORRECTLY say yes in fact ALL cops are bad
6 likesACAB
11 likes@You Won’t Reply Are you talking about ACAB? Acab doesn't mean all cops are bad, its means are Cops are Bastards, Bastard with indirectly refers to being corrupt
13 likesbang on, Jeff knows his stuff
0 likes@You Won’t Reply *Arrogant Cops Are Bad. Stereotyping makes you a hypocrite....
2 likesOutside of "I am involking my right to council" nothing really counts
0 likes@Ashton I’ve had three different people tell me what ACAB means and they’ve all been different. You sure I’m the one being “dense.”
3 likes@D Bk damn what state do you live in that pays kindergarten teahcers 59k with these "amazing benefits" and then 90k for higher grades? Because that shit ain't happening in Florida
2 likes@Blindeyeseesfar not if they prevented his right to counsel
0 likes@D Bk I dont know what municipality you are from but I made more as the GM of a fast food chain than the average cop in Philadelphia with less than 5 years on the job. Teachers start out under 30k a year in most schools there. The city often tries to buy out older teachers because they are making too much by offering them a 40-50k bonus to retire at 20 years and collect a pension because it is cheaper over time. Most inner city education systems are corrupt as hell and full of white collar criminals.
2 likes@Trucky McTruckface absolutely!
0 likes-April
@You Won’t Reply orginal. Who writes your insults? The guy who invented wonder bread? Here I'll write the next one for you.
4 likes"Your username is accurate"
Feel free to use it 😊
@Exandah most of them really aren't..
0 likes@You Won’t Reply it's sort of scary how many people took you seriously. Lol?
0 likes@Aria Cops in my city start out at 30k a year where 26k-ish is poverty line for a family of 2. (two adults or single parent)
0 likes@Aria I'm not doxing myself, however in NC, the average pay rate is about 38k. Sources: https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/police-officer/salary/north-carolina/
0 likeshttps://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/What-Is-the-Average-Police-Officer-Salary-by-State
https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes333051.htm
On the last link, control-F for "North carolina" and you will notice that the highest for police officer is about 41k (these are median salaries mind you some are lower and some are above).
Regarding the poverty claim: https://livingwage.mit.edu/states/37. I was mistaken, I was thinking of the living wage and not poverty wage and I will admit to that error. Notice however that the police officer salary, when paid hourly, is about 19ish an hour (divide by 2 and drop the excess zeros) below the living wage requirement for a single parent house hold or some other cases that you can look into yourself if you really care and aren't just trying to start arguments on the internet
@Aria 30ish k * 1.5 = 45ish k which is above all those numbers... I don't think you did too well in math if you really think that's 50% higher
0 likes@Aria Regardless of how it may seem, I do agree that is a low salary for what they are doing. Risking your life for 40k a year is kinda trash. I have family who fill bags at a medical facility for around 33k a year with no risk of injury and plenty of upward movement without an education.
1 likeIf police officers were paid more, I genuinely believe that there would be more competition and their superiors could be more selective. I do not think that cop = racist or cop = evil. It's a job that will attract people who are more likely to be both because of the low pay so it's got to be something you want to do. Whether you want to actually protect and serve or just want power, That's really hard to tell in a simple interview (I'd imagine anyway). And every encounter I've had with a police officer has been fairly good (aside from the ticket but that's my fault for speeding).
It's like teachers in public school, you get the great ones who love what they do and the ones who just need a job and can barely put up with kids, The bad really overshadow the good in most cases.
@Exandah be careful your ignorance is showing
0 likesOnly the rich have rights... Once they got us it's over. Court always favour cops.
3 likes@Exandah no theyre not ur delusional.. some of them are like 1/10 but not most of them.
0 likes@Exandah some** of them are.
0 likes@Blindeyeseesfar that's not how the legal system works whatsoever, you're thinking of one of miranda rights and applying it to the whole legal system. Please don't say things about a subject you don't know about
0 likesComing from a former criminal the term you are looking g for is valid not valuable
0 likes@BatJeff all on video mate
0 likes@You Won’t Reply so are most people
0 likes@Exandah Uhm. If you count the number of bad cops on video, you can even double that for the bad cops not on video, that number could not compare to the entire number of the Police Force.
0 likes@Blindeyeseesfar and once you ask for a lawyer that's the end of the interview
0 likesIf you're poor, nobody cares about that lol
0 likes@DANIEL BIN OMAR - you realize that's what people who want to defund the police actually believe, right? It's not super ultra centrist, that's what the "radical" side wants for the most part
0 likes@Daniel Paquin àa 0⁷pp pl
0 likesFor your health!
0 likes@meat thanks you’re now the 10th person telling me a different meaning, smoothbrain.
1 likeJust make all drugs legal like the most popular one is, and Jeff wouldn't be such a jerk.
0 likes@You Won’t Reply thats the actual meaning you can look it up smoothbrain
1 like@You Won’t Reply seriously google what acab means instead of being pissy about all cats are beautiful
0 likes@S Sellers that’s the only reasonable and correct explanation. He is def scamming cokes with different sessions
0 likes@You Won’t Reply true
0 likes@You Won’t Reply he didn’t say that though
0 likesNot if he doesnt have money for a lawyer to get it thrown out. A public pretender will do nothing but urge him to plead guilty for a deal. Believe me I've been thru the "justice" system many times as a former heroin addict myself.
1 like@Kent Livingston Stalin had all the cops disappeared and did nothing wrong
0 likes@You Won’t Reply cops are human. Nothing more. Nothing less. Don't think for one moment that just becuase someone's on the police force that they have a strong set of morals, or are even willing to act on ethical morals.
0 likes@Tobi i totally agree with you man. I’m arguing that one bit.
0 likes@Lord Bendtner that caught me off guard LOL and ur right!!!
0 likesNot necessarily, especially when Jeff reinitiated contact by saying he would talk for a coke and a butterfinger.
0 likes@You Won’t Reply based
0 likes@You Won’t Reply Yes Hudson, all cops are bad because the entire system molds them to act in a certain way.
1 like@Eduardo Flores smooth brain simpleton
0 likes@You Won’t Reply Not simpleton, just a 29 year old historian and university teacher who has is not only read about theory but already have experience with these pigs.
1 likeThe police are not your friend and are not there to serve and protect you.
@Blindeyeseesfar And even if your words are inadmissible, you never know what tidbit of information you're giving them to help construct their rube goldberg argument that you did it. People inadvertently hand investigators the lynchpin of prosecutions all the time. Talking to them will never help you.
0 likesThey're not bad people either, they're not monsters. But they have a job to do, our system is adversarial, and if you're in a jumpsuit they are your adversary, one that would just really, really, appreciate your cooperation in their efforts to orchestrate your downfall.
@You Won’t Reply correct all cops are bad
0 likesBut wait, did he get his butterfinger?
0 likesThe man likes coke. I can respect that
0 likesJeff: you look like a prick 💀
0 likes3:42 Now i want to watch this movie
0 likes“You have the right to remain silent...”
3888 likesJeff: “hold my soda”
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why no replies lol
2 likes"Well that is not ok" - Police
10 likes"You have the right to remain silent..."
7 likesJeff: " "
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0 likesGo jeff!!!!
0 likesMajor Tyrone Biggums energy, in a good way
0 likesEveryone see the description for jeff's youtube channel link
1 likeThis is b/s where is his legal counselor that he ask for MORE THEN ONCE !
0 likesIs this heroin junkie seriously the ONLY intelligent person I've seen in these interrogations?! Absolutely yes. Street smarts FTW!
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He was way smarter than that female cop
61 likesIt’s because he’s been in this position before. Most of the murderers and other criminals on this channel have had minimal, if any, contact with LE. They only know the bullshit they see on TV.
184 likesYou only gotta go through the system once to learn it, you’ve got nothing but free time once you’re in there to learn every trick like the back of your hand.
66 likesBig facts
5 likesA lot of us grow up knowing to shut our mouths around the police. 🤷🏻♀ Never give extra info, never tell them (any office, etc, not just legal) anything you don't absolutely have to tell them.
41 likesA lot of it has to do with experience and learning from them. He has gone through it before, so maybe his first time he did it just as bad as any other people.
14 likesBut once you look into it and know what the process is like, you'll know how to behave to not incriminate yourself.
Well he just learned it because he went through the System a few times. Murderers dont have the opportunity to do that.
7 likesHe was in this position before, at this point, he knew what bullshit the cops will pull, and he just either don't give af anymore and just let it slide.
5 likesThis guy got caught doing heroin and committing armed robbery. How does that equate to “street smarts” lol
5 likes@Jakearoo27 <--- this is so true.
0 likesFtw = fuck the what
1 like@Hessen what female cop
1 like@Nicolas "The interrogation of Stephanie Lazarus"
0 likesDont call him a junkie... jesus.... addiction is a mental illness...
10 likes@CHSD a lot of us who had good parents. Lol my kids were 1 when they learned the only thing to ever say to law enforcement is "idk" and "lawyer". But my family has some legal system ptsd from an uncle who was wrongly convicted of rape for 13 yrs and was exonerated by DNA. We kinda dont trust the cops around here haha but with that being said the one cop i absolutely adored, who was a legitimately good man and officer committed suicide 7 years ago... so i know there are good ones out there.
2 likesHe must have watched John Mulaney
0 likes@Jakearoo27 that’s exactly how it is
0 likes@Hessen Way more smart than a cop that managed to make someone confess to their crimes IN THE INTERROGATION ROOM?
1 likeI had friends like this in my early 20s they got arrested so many times that they just learned to lie better. This guy could have done the robbery but he knows better than to confess because lying worked for him before.
0 likesWell that’s a little rude to say about someone suffering from addiction. What if that was your brother . Bruh
1 likeCan’t be smart if you’re addicted to heroin
0 likesAs a former heroin addict 10+ years I can say personally and many people I knew were very smart people often both IQ and EQ.
1 likeJared Murray was pretty smart during his interrogation
0 likes@Finished!!!!!! you don’t become a decade-long heroin addict by being smart
0 likes@Nom De Plume🏴☠️ thank you for saying this
0 likesThe John Mullany bit "Street Smarts"
0 likesSTREET SMARTS
I ponder often what happened to Jeff, I hope he is doing well.
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check pinned comment, he still uploads
1 likeWhy is he a legend?
0 likesTell me whats the typical anti hero ending?
didn't he ask for a lawyer?
0 likesJeff is funny tho lol he was smart not to answer .u gotta go through the system few x more to b like jeff the end lololol
0 likesSo, Jeff asks for a lawyer, never gets one, and gets interrogated for twelve hours without being charged.
1401 likesNote to self: if I’m detained, ask if I am under arrest and if not, leave.
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He was under arrest at that time. He got his lawyer, all interviews are entirely optional. As shown, he can simply say "take me back to my cell" and they do.
109 likes@Taylor he also makes sure to enjoy his coke before going back :)
79 likesHe only was “interrogated” because wanted a coke haha
88 likes@Taylor Not always. They can do whatever they want to get a confession out of you.
13 likes@DeathnoteBB Not true. If they persist attempting to question without taking you back to your cell after request, you can not only formally complain (which most police stations are actually scared of, because it can directly impact funding, especially if media catch wind), but you can sue them for it, different names in different places but refusing to let you in your cell can be considered cruel/failure of a duty of care, and literally no police station wants that.
22 likesThey sure as hell can't do 'whatever they want', you say it like they can chain you up and beat you and you have no legal standing.
@Taylor The issue is the fact that police tend to cover up the shit that does happen. So yeah, they could do that stuff to you.
30 likes@Mr. BlueSky lol
0 likes@Limhi Escobar 😅😅😅
0 likes@Taylor If they have money and you don't, they can.
3 likesYeah, weird how he asked for a lawyer and the cop kept talking. What part of "I want a lawyer" was ambiguous? Jeff's mistake was saying anything other than "I want a lawyer" over and over again
28 likesActually if you're detained, you're not free to go. You're not under arrest, but the police have a right to question you and confirm your identity if they have some reasonable suspicion that you've committed a crime. If you try to walk away while you're being detained you'll get arrested for sure, and even if you really weren't doing anything wrong beforehand you've just committed a legitimate crime. One thing to consider though is that not every time the police talk to you is legally considered a detainment so you should ask if you're being detained if an opp tries to talk to you. If they say no, then you are perfectly fine to walk away.
10 likes@DA S I've been under arrest plenty. If you think they can do 'whatever they want', you've been watching too many cop dramas on netflix.
10 likesThe moment they step past the boundaries their case is toast.
Always leave !!!! Never talk !!!!
2 likesRight
0 likes@Taylor yeah the case is toast but you still suffer waiting on bail pretrial etc
1 likei won my last case due to improper police conduct but still they robbed me of my rolex, 10Gs went missing and other jewellery. And i still had to pay my lawyer 30,000 and couodnt see my coaccused my wife for over a year.
If your hungry. They'll run out and get ya food if they think they can get a confession. Might as well get a good meal especially if you don't know if you'll get another one like it. As soon as they realized he stood firm. They made him toss that coke out.
4 likes@Taylor found the police officer:)
2 likesI just got to leave this here: 'my name Jeff'
0 likesMakes me want a Delicious can of Coke
0 likesman totally just used the interrogation as a way to get free coke
0 likesWithdrawal from smack is horrible. Sweet things make it mildly more bearable.
1 like“Said he would talk for a coke and a butterfinger” my man has his priorities in order
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FRFR (laughing face with tears)
22 likeshe means business
15 likes@Andrew Apel look nothing help coming off junk not a coke not a fucking butterfinger what ever they are no doubt we call em something else so your saying sugar help withdrawals ? ok not been though that shit sice ma teen in early 90,s in the jail over er ,you might be right if our body have EVOLVED lol
4 likes@martin kerr what
16 likes@martin kerr are you speaking english
11 likes@keoizcheuw translation: Look, nothing helps coming off of junk. Not a Coke, not a butterfinger, or whatever they are. We call them something else. So you’re saying that sugar helps with withdrawals? Ok, I haven’t been through that shit since my teen years in the early 90’s, even been in jail over them. You might be right (about the sugar helping with withdrawals) if your body has evolved lol
15 likes@DrummerAlex thanks for translation,you’re a real one
3 likesHonestly I would if it was a Dr Pepper and a Snickers
1 like@Screw you hae achieved maximum cringe
0 likes@Crimson Dragon Yeah, big difference, REAL BIG!
0 likesIt's like shit coated with sugar vs sugar coated with shit.
@Patrick Merkel You ok bro? You sound mad. If you’re getting mad at a joke,then maybe you should take a break from the internet....
0 likes@civil wither goddammit I was using a laptop
0 likes“wham bam thank you for the coke”
0 likesliterally the ultimate chad
0 likesAre u kidding me?
0 likesThat's a heroine adic , just wait 24 hours n he tell everything 😐
THE KING!!
0 likesNEVER talk to the cops, anything and everything will be used against, even if you're innocent.
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@Kimberly Marshall
131 likesInnocent people get convicted all the time, with their own utterances used against them.
@Kimberly Marshall
49 likesAll the time = more than zero, and more times than should ever happen. Also, innocent people don't have to get convicted to be harassed, police have weaponized the process, the thousands of dollars needed to defend yourself and stress endured while doing so.
There's a great and popular video on YT entitled "Don't talk to the police". Law Professor James Duane makes the case much better than I can, check it out.
@Kimberly Marshall
21 likesI exaggerated, bad use of hyperbole, didn't mean to throw anyone off, I'll be more careful next time.
I used to have your position, was pretty sure a middle ground existed where being cooperative showed good faith and a willingness to work out the issue. His video and many others of interactions with cops has changed my mind. I think more times than not, saying nothing, or bare minimum, is the better strategy. Either way, hope I never have to personally decide.
Cheers!
@Kimberly Marshall very wrong, regardless if guilty or innocent, shut up ang get a lawyer
18 likes@Kimberly Marshall Its actually a commonly known fact that you shouldnt talk to the cops; anything you say can be used to incriminate you, but nothing you say can exonerate. Just search on youtube for "Why you shouldnt talk to the police" and youll find several videos from lawyers and doctors at law explaining the concept.
20 likes@deesine "All the time = more then zero" lmao what. Don't get me wrong it REALLY sucks when innocent people are taken to jail, but saying this happens all the time is just insane. With how much crimes that are committed every day there's bond to be a few people in the wrong place at the wrong time. No matter how good your legal system is that number will always be more then zero.
9 likesThat is such dumb advice, that have put more than a few people unnecessarily in jail.
2 likes@Kimberly Marshall There are attorneys out there that advocate for innocent people to keep their mouths shut. Invoke the 5th Amendment if you are an American and get yourself an attorney. The cops are out for convictions.
13 likes@Kimberly Marshall Your position assumes the intent of investigators is to find truth, not guilt. When looking for guilt people are predisposed to see it where it doesn't exist. Even when telling the truth people are notoriously inconsistent. We sometimes recollect things differently, leave out a detail by mistake, or include information that isn't even relevant. This, and more, serves to muddy the waters.
6 likesGetting an attorney in the very beginning is an effort to keep things from escalating to the point of a trial. An innocent person who gets an attorney right away isn't thinking "I need an attorney for my trial." Instead, the thought is "I am innocent and don't want the cops to mistakenly believe I am guilty."
You can see in these videos that cops often use methods that induce stress, fatigue, and anxiety. These methods inevitably lead to innocent people giving off the wrong "vibe" during interviews.
Play it safe, as many attorneys advocate, and hire an attorney as soon as cops want to start questioning you. The number of innocent people behind bars is astounding.
@Kimberly Marshall "Cool. Can you name some of these innocent people behind bars, and most importantly, how you know they're innocent?"
4 likes- Why do you assume there are no innocent people behind bars? There are news stories, consistently, that feature a person that was wrongfully accused and imprisoned.
"By saying cops look for guilt and not truth, you're saying they're happy to lock anyone up for the crime!"
- No, what I am saying is that they are looking for evidence that could imply guilt. Their job is to collect evidence and build a case. Even innocent people can unwittingly provide evidence that makes them look innocent.
"Never mind the compensation you'd have to pay or the pension you'd lose! Nahhh, just lock anyone up. That'll do! Case closed! Now for some Candy Crush!"
- So, in your view, corrupt cops don't exist? What about negligent ones? How about cops that try to do what is right, but make mistakes along the way?
"Of course attorneys advocate hiring attorneys! You've fallen for the oldest trick in the book! You need me, therefore hire me, or you'll regret it!"
- Yes, there is no possible way it could just simply be a good idea or good advice. The nasty, mean-spirited attorneys are only out for themselves. Meanwhile, all cops are angels that never make mistakes. Right? (Cheeky, I know, but you opened up that can of worms yourself.)
@Kimberly Marshall It might benefit you to learn about the case of Michael Dickson. He was believed to be guilty by multiple investigators. It just so happened they were entirely mistaken, because he was entirely innocent.
5 likes@Kimberly Marshall "Please try to confine your thoughts to one comment. It gets real messy otherwise. You also don't need to quote me back. I remember what I said."
4 likes- I sent you two replies because I had the thought and care to double check the name of the man whose case I was referring you to.
- I include quotes for your convenience, as well as mine. I will do it as long as it benefits me, and I alone determine whether or not it does.
"There's a reason the first three letters of "assume" are as they are, because assuming makes an "ass" out of the assumer. I prefer facts and logic."
- You assume you don't need an attorney as long as you are innocent. You assume this despite evidence to the contrary. This evidence is provided by attorneys that advise against talking to cops without an attorney. The evidence is also provided by cops and ex-cops that advise having an attorney when talking to cops. Further, this evidence is provided by the fact there are ANY innocent people behind bars.
"But you said there are an "astounding amount" of them. I want to know how you know that."
- You should first determine what I define to be an astounding amount. :)
I didn't read any further into your comment. What I have read of it so far, coupled with your attitude in previous replies, lends me to believe you aren't worth further effort on my part. I hope one day you come to value the insights and positions of others just a bit higher, at least high enough to refrain from being an ass. Cheers!
@Shinkajo i get the feeling they are naive tbh, she thinks attorneys are the only sharks in the process when really, there is a reason cops get so sticky when people ask for a lawyer
4 likes@The Opiner cops will literally abuse people who plead the 5th. they can and will take away things or access to basic human needs to force a confession.
5 likes@a. m. Yes they will. I just wish that any of them that do that, would have the same done to them. I definitely.
4 likes@The Opiner your replies are amazing, really well written and thought out
3 likes@valerie ¿ Thank you, I appreciate you saying so. :)
2 likesTrue.
0 likesA lawyer once gave me this advice, and,though I never thought I'd be in that kind of situation, I filed the information away. Needless to say, I ended up in a situation that would have ended up much differently had I spoken with the police. NEVER SPEAK TO THE POLICE! ALWAYS ASK FOR A LAWYER.
4 likesBut should you talk if you get coke? It’s very good, I would consider my options: freedom or coke?
2 likesYes, coke I think.
You should not talk to the cops, because they are simply not the people you need to convince that you are innocent. The cops are trying to build a case, and gathering evidence to build that case is their job.
4 likesThe place where you defend yourself is the court room, and the person you discuss your defense with is your lawyer. It's not a cop's job to defend you from prosection so there is no point trying to convince them of your innocence.
It's so sad that this is necessary, but that's just how the cookie crumbles...
@Funny Stuff Corp
0 likesDon't be naive: innocent people's cases are discovered all over the country, sometimes after serving 20+ years.
@Funny Stuff Corp
1 likeThe point is that all too often they put their career and getting promoted ahead of finding the truth, so innocent people get railroaded and sent to prison. It doesn't benefit you one bit to trust the police and help them in their investigation, not when you are the target of that investigation -- hence say nothing. The police never let people go because they talked and convinced the police of their innocence.
@deesine you re right. Innocent people get convicted often, especially if they,like Jeff, had been through the system and had previous convictions. It is always the safest not to talk to police because everything you say can and usually is used against you.
0 likes@deesine yup
0 likesJEFF KNOWS THEY WILL HELP HIM GET 15-LIFE
0 likes153 pounds at 6ft5 I'm 6ft6 180 pounds...surprised hes alive weighing only that much.
0 likes"Lies, cheats, steals, swears at children, drinks an inconceivable amount of alcohol"
1 likeSounds like my dad
i love him
0 likesJeff: Explains what happened
2725 likesOfficer: "Okay so what happened?"
Jeff: "I just told you what happened"
Officer: "No you didn't"
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If I'm not mistaken - because he had not acknowledged his rights when he told the story, but rather after the fact, the officer would be completely unable to use his statement in court. If Jeff did that on purpose, he's much more intelligent than he already let on.
118 likes@Liz Joy this is a common myth. Police do not have to read you your rights at all and anything you say can and will be used against you either way. The exceptions are things like coerced confessions. Stating facts or having a conversation isn’t a confession though. Confession is “I’m guilty” along those lines. And the miranda rights only apply to that if the person is coerced and even that depends on individual state statutes, jurisdiction-by-jurisdiction. If the police simply ask you a question and you voluntarily answer it, you’re darn tootin’ there’s no miranda violation.
34 likesAn example of there being a miranda violation would be if they didn’t read Jeff his rights and said “if you just tell us you did it we’ll let you go with a warning” and Jeff said “fine, I did it” and then the police say “can you tell us where the bag of money is” and Jeff says “it’s in the trunk in my closet.” That would be a clear violation of miranda rights and neither the confession nor the discovery of money would be admissible. However, if they read his rights first, there’d be no violation, police could let Jeff go, get the money, and rearrest him using the evidence. Or if instead of coercing him they just said, “what’d you do” and he voluntarily answered, miranda rights are not necessary.
Jeff only explained what happened when he was arrested, the officer was asking what happened the night before
3 likescops said he isn’t “explaining” it because there was nothing incriminating in Jeff’s story
12 likesthey didn't get the right answer for their conviction basically
9 likes✨gaslight✨✨gatekeep✨✨girlboss✨
5 likesJeff destroyed that cop on the Miranda Rights by accepting the can of coke TWICE as “co-ersion” for him to speak, and then even though the video was edited, Jeff says at the end “How about that Butterfinger you promised me?” And the cop saying “No, you didn’t give me what I wanted.” And completely destroyed Miranda again by admitting that Jeff was under coercion to testify against himself for a “Butterfinger”
15 likesHe is every lawyers dream client to defend, even Saul could get Jeff off the hook and probably a job afterwards.
@SID There is no court in the universe that would consider the goddamn coke a coercion. The police would say it's hospitality since they kept him in a room for 3 hours waiting and it's standard procedure anyways. They will always offer a drink to someone under interrogation because that helps them establish a bond and create common ground to help facilitate a confession.
1 like@Nobody Cares "offer them" and give to establish a bond sounds like coercion to me...
5 likesThanks for the subtitles
0 likes@Monkey006 it SHOULD be, I agree with you 100% but nobody takes facts into consideration that's why Kyle Rittenhouse got off. People cared more about what it would mean for their own personal murder machines than justice. It's always about what the court or the wealthy or the victim can get from it. Justice is not a part of our criminal justice system
0 likes@Chase Webster Pretty interesting, what is the situation for Miranda rights to someone who is a deaf, blind person who cannot read or write, does not know ASL or braille and essentially wouldn't not be able to understand: (1) in written form, (2) via lipreading, or (3) in sign language?
0 likesHypothetically speaking, say before the suspect was apprehended and some incident impaired their vision and hearing
It isn't what they wanted to "have happened"
0 likes@Monkey006 yours isn't 99% convictions :/ makes me sick to think about it
0 likesviolates his constitutional rights you cannot question somebody through withdrawals and they're not going to be mentally confident
0 likesThis dude is just getting free cokes lol
1 likeBOOM!! Tetris for Jeff.
0 likesThis is so me! Lmfao
0 likesJeff is very smart, didn’t talk to the police, wanted to talk with his lawyer right away, he knew from the very start that the cops weren’t helping him at all.
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If he was that smart he wouldn't be there in the first place.
101 likes@MangledWomb85 Dude many really smart people had fucking horrible lives purely because of bad luck. It doesn't matter how smart you are if you just get dealt shit cards, this might actually be the best anyone could do with what this guy was dealt. Point is we don't know the circumstances, he could have done all the right choices and still end up there.
385 likesI'm not giving a sub because of your dog
5 likes@kingpest13 Sure, I'm not saying addicts can't get clean, I am just saying being an addict doesn't mean you are dumb and although most people think, in his situation they would do better, they probably wouldn't.
43 likes@kingpest13 seems like you dont understand what addiction is.
17 likes@Blueberry Jelly yeah you know what, you're right. Having watched the full interview I actually liked this guy a lot and I can see he's smart too. We can all take the wrong path in life no matter how good we've got it. I take back my original comment, I judged too quickly. Maybe I just get pissy about the whole addict thing due to having problems with those types of people in my life and they're hard work and have caused a lot of pain but I don't hate them by any means. Just people who lost their way in life I guess. But dealing with them isn't fun that's all.
15 likes@MangledWomb85 Nah it's not about being dumb it's about being a homeless druf addict and being at the wrong place at the wrong moment
5 likesFrothyCoffee10 I can’t agree with you.
2 likesHe’s suffering from addiction and his life was apparently, but that says nothing about his intelligence.
i would put that on a lot of experience with dealing with the police over the years of being a drug addict, knowing how they operate.
1 like@Thors indeed. It's his experience with "the system". You can be smart and make dumb choices too and vice versa
5 likesyeah... Jeff's a genius.genius.
1 likekingpest13 getting off dope has almost nothing to do with how smart you are. When getting off drugs your going against the most primitive part of your brain
5 likes@MangledWomb85 You're alright CharlesLeeRay.
3 likesAnd although I never quite reached the greatest of Jeff, I was that guy, causing trouble and creating calamity for innocent people around me, and doing stupid things. Although things are better now and all that is in the past, and I do have a level of understanding that many of these people aren't inherently bad people, I still struggle with patience in regards to dealing with them. It's very frustrating, to say the least.
@Vic Jang yeah I know man. If you read the comments you'll see I took back what I said and admitted I judged the guy too quickly. That'll teach me lol.
3 likesAbsolutely, I'm at 7:50, love this guy so far. As he said, he knows how the system works...
1 like@MangledWomb85 hes a smart criminal
1 likekingpest13 Heroin addiction will always be there though, always inches from relapse. And that addiction can lead you to throw away everything.
2 likesA family member of mine had it forced on him at a party. He was a filmmaker, and a damn good one, but his life went from his love of filmmaking to his horrid addiction.
He’s getting clean, but is trying to fix his life, and getting clean from heroin, can kill you without medical help. Luckily he has continued to keep clean but he has told me that he is still wants it, but he is pushing for his life,
@Ondřej Javůrek this is purely false. Intelligent people are not addicted to narcotics. Intelligent people fight out of their shit starts rather than complacently accepting it...
1 like@Andrew McAllister So none of these is an intelligent person?!
5 likesCharles Dickens - opium
Ernest Hemingway - alcohol
Thomas Edison - cocaine
Vincent van Gogh - alcohol
Sigmund Freud - morphine
Stephen King - cocaine, Xanax, Valium
@Ondřej Javůrek I would say no. Freud is largely considered to be an idiot by modern psychologists, edison was rich person who bought inventions from others and claimed them as his own and the rest are artists.
1 like@Andrew McAllister Ok so, I disagree with artists not being intelligent, especially with writers, but lets ignore that. Most psychologists might disagree with Freud on many things but he essentially created their field, and saying he wasnt intelligent is just nonsense. Edison was in my opinion intelligent but ok we disagree. How about Benjamin Franklin - opiate and alcohol mixture
3 likesPaul Erdös (mathematician) — Amphetamines
Samuel Colt – Nitrous
Bill Gates - ketamine
???
@Mister Ee not one thing I said can be classified as ad hominem....
1 like@Mister Ee No, ad hominem is about attacking the arguer not the argument. I literally didn't do that a single time.... Learn what you're talking about before you speak...
1 like@Ondřej Javůrek the founding fathers used drugs, there is no formal evidence for any sort of addiction. Many people take painkillers and aren't addicted to them. Ben Franklin does not apply to the argument.
1 likeLiterally the first source about paul erdos says he wasn't addicted to drugs.... He took them. You seem to me mixing up the ideas of addiction and drug use. Not all people who take drugs are drug addicts... I imagine most of the others follow suit.
@MangledWomb85 With all the bad experiences, you learn how to deal with it.
0 likes@Alphanumeric learn how to deal with what? Having an addict as a family member?
1 like@Andrew McAllister Look we can't really judge if they were addicted or not because the only way to decide this would be taking the drug away and watching the effect on them, but I am ok with assuming you are correct because I dint research into their addiction any more than googling a list of people who according to the websites I found were addicted. However this still doesn't mean addicts can't be intelligent, lets consider these two fictional characters, Sherlock Holmes and Greg House, they are both very tormented, intelligent people who turn to drugs to num their emotional/physical pain, and both get addicted. Although these are fictional characters they draw inspiration from the reality that intelligent people are depressed more often, because of this they also take drugs often to ease their pain, and in my opinion intelligent people can definitely get addicted to drugs just like anyone else. Now when they get addicted they might be better suited to getting rid of this addiction and although I am not sure of that, that's not the discussion we were having here, we were talking about intelligent people not being addicts, so where do we disagree?
2 likes@MangledWomb85 I was talking about the custody. It was said that it wasn't his first time being in question therefore he'll have better chances dealing with the police. Plus, he didn't do it.
0 likes@Alphanumeric oh haha. Yeah he knows the system for sure, Jeff has been around the block a few times. But yeah I guess it helps when you're also innocent lol.
1 like@MangledWomb85 Yeah.
0 likes@Andrew McAllister wasn't Pythagoras faded asf when he wrote his theorem
0 likesOndřej Javůrek
1 likeAddicted to heroine, been in and out of the system... position doesn’t force you to break the law.
@dereksjourney a girl lie on you?
1 like@dereksjourney anyway I've been through this with a few others in these comments which you'd know if you read them. We've established that Jeff isn't actually an idiot or a bad person, just a guy with an addiction who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. So, I'm done with this comment section. But I will probably watch this video again because it was interesting.
0 likes@kingpest13 Sometimes "keep fighting" means keep banging your head up against a wall. That kind of black and white thinking doesn't always apply. Sometimes you have to take a completely different approach that you might not even KNOW about if you don't have the money and resources to get a good psychotherapist (for example). Life can be way more complicated than the simple black and white thinking that people tend to resort to. What if he's somebody who's gene presentation or gene expression causes a little too much cortisol to be present naturally. Meaning greater susceptibility to stressors. Then, what if he has a alcoholic father who is horribly abusive to the children and the mother too maybe. That combination is a guaranteed formula for PTSD. Which is a form of mental and physical illness. It literally causes brain damage. So now, what was that business about "oh yeah, lots of people have it real rough and go on and make a success out of themselves, blah blah blah, ad nauseam"? People usually don't have a clue how complicated these things can get. Mostly because they don't want to be bothered to think. Or else they're projecting their own self-hate onto the other person, and hating them.
2 likes@Andrew McAllister The irony of ur claimed insight abt what intelligent ppl do or do not...is overwhelming.
0 likes@S.C. Gordon I do have some insight, considering I'm a PhD candidate in neurochemistry...
1 like@Andrew McAllister When the video's abt neurochem, we'll await ur comments.
0 likes@S.C. Gordon you do realize drug use and abuse is directly linked with neurochem...
1 likeIt's a choice. If you put your habmnd in fire you won t do it again right.. You learned the first time you got burnt
1 like@kingpest13 It takes not just stamina, but support, being centered, and money. If you're on dope because you're already weak-willed, good luck. If you're all over the place, good luck. If you got not a damn soul giving you a hand then good goddamn luck and if you're an addict and about to go to jail you ain't got cash.
0 likesIt's easy to simplify this as, "Well a lot more people can do it." Yeah pal, and there are plenty of amputees that have gotten limb transplants, and thousands more who never will becauze their physiology won't support it.
@S.C. Gordon what are you even typing, some drugged up ghetto slang?
1 like@MangledWomb85 Being intelligent and doing the "smart" thing aren't really the same thing hey..
0 likes@We Island yeah we've covered this. Read more of the comments lol.
0 likesNot talking to the police is not smart the smart thing is to collaborate specially is usa becuase they be asking you questions they already know the answer for and they use strategies to let you talk
1 likeIt’s funny how everyone in this thread moved on from the actual ex addict in this chat criticizing this guy “Jeff” because everyone decided to act like redditors and try to feel soft for a criminal. The police are no one anyone wants to talk to more than they have to, but what’s with so many people on the internet with these argumentative crushes on random criminals? Makes me feel like none of you have dealt with addicts, thieves, and hardened criminals, a lot of you guys argue for 10+ comments for a charismatic criminal I hope you’re never on jury duty if you’re that quick to let you defenses down on a person because they “seem nice”
0 likesThese cops man...didn't he asked for a lawyer?
0 likesThey bought him a 6 pack of coke and got nothing
0 likes“Wham bam take me back to the cell”
0 likesEver since I was a sweet little girl from a great family with decent money, I always idolized the bad guys and wanted to be one every time I watched a movie.
0 likes"I just came here to get a coke"
4938 likes"How about that butterfinger you promised me?"
Junkie, robber, whatever, this guy doesnt give a shit, he just wants his damn snacks
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Junkies crave sugar, so it's no surprise
77 likesIt's always about the snacks. Always.
31 likesI'm a heroin addict. Been getting my shit together for a long time, but Everytime I quit I crave sugar. Especially in jail locked up
63 likesLegend has it he still does methadone in jail while eating butterfingers and drinking coke.
18 likesAddiction, it’s the craziest thing. One that can’t really be understood completely with second hand knowledge
10 likesAn AA/NA Meeting with no coffee and sugar is a meeting with no one.
7 likescoke also really helps dope sick like nausea, addicts also rarely eat well and he looked skinny af, no wonder he wanted sugar
2 likesIt’s a common side effect when having withdraws
1 like@Daniel Soto nothing to brag about but ok
0 likes@3Clod I'm not sure who's bragging. I'm stating facts. I am a recovering addict and while detoxing addicts crave sugar. Where's the bragging coming in, I'm lost lil buddy. I guess the true comment is that what I said is nothing to troll about. But I'm sure you're living in your mom's basement with no gd, all alone and bored so you troll for attention. I get it. Well, I just gave you two minutes worth attention so don't worry, friend... Someone sees you. You're relevant. Anyways, have a good day and try not to go blind down there in your mom's basement
4 likesHe's like the supreme tallest from Invader Zim "Save the snacks!"
0 likes@Daniel Soto How old are you?
0 likes@fisty Imodium is another life saver
1 like@Daniel Soto good on you!
0 likesI can respect that to a degrere lmfao
1 like@3Clod doesnt look like bragging to me
0 likes@Lee 14 read back, he said he does drugs on a daily basis, uncaring if some kid might read and take example. When I pointed that out he said "oh but I'm quitting obviously" and it's not obvious. Jumkies hurt their own families, I'd shut up and clean myself if I were him. I know my parents would roll in their graves if they discovered I do drugs (he said I live in my mom's house not even knowing if she's even still alive or how old I am, just supposing in his self importance).
0 likesHave him drink a red bull, it’ll give him wiiings…
0 likesWhat is happening to him happens to hundreds of innocent people thrown into the legal system. Legal system is fukked..
0 likesThis guys is a fucking legend
0 likesJeff is a chess grand master
0 likes"How about that butterfinger you promised"
0 likesPls 😭😭😭😭
This has to be the most thought provoking coke commercial I've ever watched
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I didn't even watch the video yet but I love your comment 😂😂😂
286 likesOne month ago
20 likesUnderrated comment.
60 likesHappy 666th like
11 likes@Nyxa because he stole the comment from top comment
24 likes1000th like. :') This is the single biggest achievement of my life, now I'll go and search how to conclude my life since my purpose here is fulfilled.
15 likesCheers
This is great. I will have some cake right now.
3 likesI swear🤣
4 likes@Dale Gribble yep
2 likesLol 😂
3 likesThey should have stopped questioning him immediately after he said “I want a lawyer.” Anything he said after that point with coercion from police is inadmissible in a court of law.
14 likesLol that coke made me kinda thirsty haha ngl. I just had a bunch of fries and that looks pretty tasty right now
7 likesCocaine?
4 likesCecelia Mazzetti
5 likesExcept that later on he agreed to speak in exchange for a Coke©️.
😂😂
1 like🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
4 likesOk seeious question. Do you mean ...as in ...[yes you do] coca-cola ? Or coca-caine?
1 likePretty Hamburger same 😂
1 likeI read this before watching and thought you were talking about cocaine. Lol
1 like😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesComment Winner! 🏆Golddd
1 likeBingo
0 likesLmfao 😂
1 likePepsi keeps you out of jail, coke gets you through jail
3 likesA glimmer of humanity
1 likeCoke may trigger the same physiological response on a much smaller scale as heroin and gives him some relief from the addiction
0 likes6.9k likesssss lol
0 likes7 thousandths like right here!
0 likeswham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell
0 likesNo It WaS aT 6.9k LiKeS!
0 likeshis profile picture is a close up of Squidward’s nose
0 likes@Nyxa underrated by whom?
0 likes@B E G O N E X T H O T X you're blowing my mind rn
0 likesPffftbwaaahahaha
0 likesOMG! I LITERALLY LOL’d at my work.
0 likesYou mean heroin? Lol
0 likes😭🖐
0 likes@Cecelia Mazzetti it's acting
0 likesWeak 😭😂
0 likes😂
0 likesLmao 😂
0 likesNatedog lol
0 likesEffff u take my thumbs up for the stupidly funny comic
0 likesYep. Big coke ad
0 likesThey should pay this man
1 like🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 fucking good one 👍👍👍🤣🤣
0 likesNate dog....... I love you!
0 likesSQUIDWARDS NOSE
0 likesIts
0 likes😂 it’s true! Lmao
0 likesBest comment on here haha
0 likesLmao
0 likesCops trying to teach Jeff to sing.
0 likesMan, your pfp
0 likeslol
0 likesHA
0 likesThis is the best thing I will see on the internet this week
0 likesI got up and grabbed a soda and I barely ever drink soda 😂😂😂
0 likes😂😂
0 likesFucking legend mate.
1 likeHe's just using his right to be silent. Oh by the way nothing is legal to do with anyone who needs their chemical balance. Not supplying his needs is human rights violation.
0 likescame here from “what pretending to be crazy looks like” and now can’t stop binge watching all the vids lmao
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me too!
76 likesThat guy ruined "Salad Days" for me
130 likes@Jeremiah Johnson literally !! that was my first time hearing it and i seriously got chills ... like this is what you were listening to ... when shooting at people ...???
68 likes@anulichanel Exactly, I was genuinely creeped out. It makes you think about how comfortable he was when he did it. That and that dumbass cellphone video.
30 likesSame here lol :)
7 likessameee
6 likesthey got you too, eh?
8 likessame !!
6 likesSameee
6 likesLikewise
6 likesHaha me too! YouTube unites again.
7 likes@anulichanel its a vibe honestly
6 likesSame huhu
4 likesSAME
4 likesSame😭
4 likesSame lol
4 likes@FCHTVH same way u didnt have to comment yet here we both are
17 likesSame-
4 likesThat damn Youtube metric got me too
5 likesLol me too
4 likesLol
1 likeSame asf
2 likesSame lol
2 likesOmg same !!!!
2 likes@Landon Mettert lmfao its called strategy thanks love
3 likes@anulichanel no shit but for what?
2 likes@Landon Mettert gets people to look at your channel lol free marketing if you will
2 likesSaaaamee!!
1 like@Landon Mettert I mean most definitely do but in my case Ive found its helpful for views too lol😂
4 likesme too
1 likeMe too
1 likesame!
1 likeSame here lol
1 likeSame it’s addictive
3 likesCool story, I’m so glad you told it to us
4 likesMe too!
2 likesPretty much
2 likesSame
2 likesExactly
3 likesThis is kind of neat - I’m a longtime JCS fan who thinks their content has kind of gone downhill. A lot of their earliest videos have been taken off the channel for some reason (might have been copyright strikes? The old intro music was a bop remix of “sh-boom”)
4 likesBut do you see what I mean? The older videos have a lot of interrogation techniques, described in detail. The new stuff seems more focussed on major headline cases and “justice porn” style hot takes, like commenting on the suspect’s personality or how they “are getting what they deserve.” Or, in this case, making jokes about Jeff working for Coca Cola. They don’t even call the “mutt and jeff” technique by the name interrogators use, instead calling it “good cop bad cop” which is how it’s popularly known by the public.
They also used to do bonus videos about prison life, including an interesting one called “the lifer perspective” where they interviewed people serving life without parole. I just think the channel was way more interesting, it seems to have realized that there’s more money in dramatizing headline grabbing True Crime and given up on their more informational video formats
Glad to see a new set of viewers are going back and watching the older content!
NO 🧢
1 likeSame lol
1 likesame
1 likesame
1 likeSame here! I’ve watched almost all of them in less than 24 hours!
1 likeLmao bruh i thougnt i was the only one. Its been a dark rabbit hole since that first video
2 likesyeah me too
1 likeSame wtf
0 likesWhy does everyone keep posting this same comment on every video?
5 likesGUYS THE DEMON CHOSE THE PLAYLIST NOT HIM!!1111!1 BELEIVE HIM11!!!1🥺
1 likeSAMEEEEE lololol
1 likeFacts, like why did it pop up....
1 like@anulichanel 33 M views in one week, that video got it nice wit the algo lol
1 likeon GAWD
0 likesSame lmaoo
0 likesLol, I do the same thing
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0 likesThe amount of self awareness that Jeff has in regards to his issues, the acceptance of who he is, the despair that comes with it. Yup, I relate to him, JCS.
241 likesThis is police abuse. He asked for a lawyer - where is the lawyer? He admitted to being a heroine user and any cop who knows anything can see he has already entered withdraw - but the cop still hammers away. It makes no difference whether Jeff is innocent or guilty - he deserves to be treated humanely.
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Unfortunately they're trained to take advantage of all that
132 likesI am hoping there will be laws passed for addicts who are incarcerated. Methadone saves heroine addicts lives in a lot of cases.
90 likesThe cop asked him if he understood his rights and he said no. Then he said yeah.
12 likeshe was treated fairly , in fact he even had two cokes gifted to him, the only thing he should’ve received was the methadone
14 likesMy brother is a heroine addict. Has been my entire adult life (18 yrs). He’s been off and on methadone and suboxone. I’ve heard horror stories of the way he gets treated when he goes to jail. I’m not saying whatever he did to go to jail is ok. But it usually drug related or something not so severe. I feel that heroine especially should be treated fairly for inmates to AT LEAST be able to taper off while in jail from suboxone or methadone. Not be forced to go throw painful withdrawal with bright lights etc etc. I’m talking about minor crimes, like drug possession, not prison or felonies that involve hurting ppl in any way.
42 likesHe got a lawyer, they just can't put that on camera..
9 likesI find it so weird how when they know they’re interrogating a serial killer and they have evidence, they are nicer than they’re to innocent people. Wtf ??
19 likes@Luciana Holmes One thing you learn when you watch more of these is they're information gathering. You think they're your best friend, and meanwhile they're trying to find out a motive to give court an open and shut case. (E.g. He resented his mother) A lot of the times these are serious cases which is hard to fully grasp. These are traumatic times for ordinary people, and in my opinion it helps to have 'order' /structure in the way of police.
10 likes@Luciana Holmes When you know someone is guilty you usually have eveidence of at least a good part of the Who, What, Where, When, and How. You don't want those. You want the WHY. WHY did they do it? WHY were they motivated to do it? So, you want to get them talking and comfortable enough to feel a sort of trust. Now if someone is still presumed innocent (as all shall be in the US) but is being questioned then they are usually still trying to figure out the Who What Where etc... Thats WHY (hehe see what I did there) they are more rough. They just want to force out the info. The facts. Data is what they are after.
6 likesHe spoke to a lawyer in a different room.
3 likesThey thought as he was going thru withdrawal he’ll be “easier” to interrogate and get some bogus confession out of him.
4 likesWhy don’t you just not do heroine
3 likesJust as humanely as he treated his victim.
0 likesDifferent locations have different time periods in regards to this. They can still go in after x amount of time (specific amount of time depending on location), reread rights, and try again BUT they still have to honor the right to an attorney. But in between getting an attorney and the suspect talking with them, they can still legally go back in and start over! These interrogators were well within their rights (as long as they did get an attorney and followed their local laws regarding interrogations).
1 likeThere are specific laws regarding interrogations that must be followed.. whether or not they are followed is what can make or break a case. It’s honestly in interrogators best interest to follow the law. In certain circumstances, the whole case can be thrown out if it’s found due process wasn’t followed (such as unethical tactics, not getting an attorney when it was requested, etc).
This is why it is SO important for people to know their rights and what is allowed and what’s not.
Omg they are so inhumane for not contributing to his addiction 🥴
0 likes@bigboymatthew How in the world did that make any sense in your brain? He should have received the methadone, but he got two cans of fuckin soda instead, so that's good? Lol what???
0 likes@Professionally Correct he didn’t need to get the soda
0 likes@GuataGuata Yea, except it turned out he wasn't.
0 likes@Wesley Hobbs No victim since he was never convicted.
0 likesLarry Lawton and all other somewhat prominent ex US prisoners:
0 likesRe-enacting J. Jameson laugh from the good Spiderman movie.
@Robert Campbell CONVICTIONS DO NOT CREATE VICTIMS. They were already there.
0 likes@Wesley Hobbs No victim of this guy, in this case, which is the point.
0 likesIf you are ever in this situation..
3 likes9:09-9:26
As a former junkie myself. It’s literally comparable to cruel and unusual punishment to leave someone going through withdrawals SITTING IN A ROOM for 5 hours. They’re lucky he didn’t start puking on them, crapping himself. Poor Jeff lol.
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Those cokes help alot lol they still won't get rid of the pain or that foggy feeling but it'll settle your stomach for a little while probably the only reason he didn't puke
143 likes@Krieg Death Rider I’d have guzzled that in 5 minutes and been like “where’s your sugar packets at??!” 😩😂
64 likesSugar always made it worse for me because on opiat rehab you got crazy noradrenaline and this fucking RLS
17 likesI went through withdrawal from mood stabilizer and anti depressant and I will tell you going through that, if I had to sit for 5 hours. For one I wouldn't be able to sit and for two I'd be hysterical. Like, withdrawal makes you want to diiiieeeeeeeee. Eventually my doctor put me back when after a week I didn't recover from the detoxing.
48 likes@Peero N sugar actually helped me for all of 5 minutes then I wanted more. I guess what the opiates can do is mess with the way our bodies process sugar lol. The RLS. The being tired but not sleeping. Never again lol.
28 likes@Lauren Murray yeah thats the worst.. tired af fuck but cant lay still, it feels a little like a burn inside until i move for me.. hope you doing good :)
9 likesWow I thought it was a jump cut and he returned after 5 hours. That’s brutal.
4 likesUh where tf else is he gonna be? Like... someone withdrawing should be..... where?
1 like@Peero N and I hope you are as well 🙏🙌
2 likes@Kimber Dayton I mean they just antes to question him…so he’s where he’s supposed to be..but putting someone who is actively in withdrawal in a tiny room, ALONE, nothing but a soda like you clearly don’t get what I meant cause you’ve never been through it but that’s the worst even having someone to talk to or something to do like read ANYTHING. But sitting in a box with nothing to do with all the anxiety and mental torture not to mention the physical that comes next. Just cruel.
19 likesIt IS cruel and unusual as someone who has withdrawn from heroin in a freezing tiny concrete and metal cell minimum 5 times, I quite literally have ptsd from it. You physically and mentally and emptiness could not torture someone all 3 ways at the same time more. I've given birth, been smacked off my bike by an suv then parked on by it, been in a 4 wheeling accident where I was pinned under a 2000 lb side by side by my shattered elbow, had covid and post covid pneumonia, and I would do ALL OF THEM AGAIN, not just one, all again, before I would choose to withdraw in jail again. They don't do shit to help you, they know you're coming off dangerous drugs like benzos, alcohol, and heroin all at once, they do not care. You see ppl seize in jail all the time, crack their heads going down, they do NOT get taken to a hospital. I seized once, woke up to being dragged down a hallway by my foot because I was "faking it" while the 4 officers laughed at me and the me in a cell, alone, in the middle of winter, withdrawing (if you Don't know that means you could be on the surface of the damn sun and still be cold) in front of the door that the officers were going in and out of in 35° f weather. I hate cops, I've NEVER had one help me, never, even when i wasn't an addict, they did NOTHING when I got drugged and raped but give me a DUI for driving under the influence of the DATE RAPE DRUG. Said I took it myself.
43 likesDon't talk to the cops. If they interview you, it means they don't know something, they won't even respond to an entire cell of women screaming that someone is seizing or beating their head on the wall if it doesn't help them.
You aren't safe in jail than on the street, my parents firmly believed that but jail is the only place I've had a seizure, been jumped, gotten in multiple fist fights from random meth heads losing their minds, they don't get you help for your addiction, they don't have programs, they don't make sure you don't die, they don't care. If the only reason you leave your kid in jail instead of, for example, going and getting YOUR KIDS OWN MONEY to bail themselves out, is because you think their safer in jail and will get help (my family did this to me multiple times) they won't get help, they aren't safe, and the relapse rate from jail is almost 100% because of it, and that's when ppl really die because they haven't had drugs for a little while, they're desperate for the pain to stop, they do too much and OD because their tolerance had plummeted. NOW you have a dead kid.
We need to stop the war on drugs. It hasn't changed drug use ONE BUT since it started, check the stats. Drug addicts are used to fill our massive incarceration nation, they need ppl to fill all these private prisons, they have zero vested interest in getting people clean. All research shows that treatment is where funds should go. Not incarceration. This applies to many other crimes too but right now we're talking about drugs. It's a PUBLIC health issue, not a justice system issue. Addicts need help, support, they desperately need to be destigmatized so that they don't lose every person in their lives because the stigma is that addicts are gross, bad ppl who need their lives ones to cut them off, not just from money which is totally ok, but from love, from emotional support, from providing help when the addict is ready, not just cutting them out from everything and everyone they love "until they're better" because with a reason to live, people to love and be loved by, support of some kind, WHY GET CLEAN? It's all you have. The people you use with, good or bad, are all you have. Your string out significant other is the only person in the planet who doesn't look at you like trash, no matter how bad the relationship might be.
1. Drug war has failed
2. Incarceration Nation must end
3. Destigmatization must occur
4. Addicts need support
5. Treatment is the only way
6. Addicts are ppl too, and many people are one accident, one party night getting too drunk to make a wise choice, one misstep away from being the same way.
6. Other addictions are bad, some just as bad, but because they aren't stigmatized they are allowed to remain in society, keep their jobs, keep their family in their lives... but your just the same.
When you’re detoxing off heroin all you want to be is alone. I didn’t leave my room at rehab for 5 days except when they made me go for mealtimes after day 3. You can’t think about anything except for withdrawal so the last thing on your mind is wanting to interact socially with people.
10 likesLMAO saw this comment and realized your name was Lauren murray. That’s my best friend of like 13 years name! I hope you’re doing well
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2 likes@Aris Ven those are WORSE!’ Or people like coming off methadone. I wouldn’t be sitting still either. People hallucinate . Honestly this is the equivalent of torture for an addict 5 hours in a tiny spot like this .
2 likes@Ellen Zovne I’m just getting to your comment and man I feel all of this 🙌 I hope you are doing good ❤️
2 likes@missalexx key thing for YOU: AT REHAB. lol. Did you ever detox without meds ? I’m not laughing at you but the comparison to being in jail and rehab detoxing is incompatible and I don’t know your story or how long you were on the sh*t for and im not even saying this guy wanted to talk to anyone but read the long comment like 5 comments up . People would generally rather do ANYTHING , experience ANYTHING other than detoxing without meds in jail . It’s torture.
2 likes@Lauren Murray sounds like something my friend Lauren would say… LOL
0 likes@Emily McGuckin am I your Lauren ? The world may never know . Muahaha. 😂❤️
0 likesI detoxed at rehab without meds and I’ve detoxed in jail 5 times so I know how it goes.
1 likeAlso your comment kind of irks me. Your coming across like you feel some sort of entitlement because you have detoxed in jail without meds so it makes you better than the people that have done it in rehab with meds. There were always people that had attitudes like yours in the rooms so that’s why I stopped going. It doesn’t matter how people got clean. You should just be happy and grateful that they are.
6 likes@Funaki .Chidori but he was innocent . He didn’t even commit the crime 😂
1 likeWar stories and ego and wrath. You might be sober but your brain is still sick. You need to humble yourself
2 likes@missalexx shes gatekeeping withdrawing😆
3 likesYeah heroin withdrawal cold turkey is literal hell. I’ve gone through it so many times and it hurts really bad. Like the worst flu type pain along with emotional pain. True hell. I’d rather use b till i fall then go through more withdrawal
1 like@Ellen Zovne #1 comment.
0 likes@missalexx no one said "it makes you better" your projecting weird insecurities about your own past with addiction. It's called imposter syndrome. It's okay, I understand and have those feelings often.
0 likesNo one is invalidating you except for yourself friend :)
@missalexx there just isn't an argument, rehab will always be a more supportive environment than jail. This seems obvious so what's the point of insisting otherwise.
1 likeSpoken like a true non heroin addict. As a heroin addict, you're liable to spend periods of your life where you may be in withdrawal for days sometimes. Its just part of the reality of being a junkie. If it isn't the cops playing with your addiction, it can easily be some psychopath criminal that sells dope.
3 likes@Aris Ven yeah I stopped cymbalta too in college. I was shaking and vomiting. Eventually went to the ER.
1 likeExactly what I was thinking! So fucking bizarre lol
0 likesI’m sorry but can you read? I said “she is coming across like” I never said she literally said that.
0 likesAlso you’re not my friend and you don’t know me :)
I’m not arguing that rehab is more helpful than jail, it’s pretty obvious which is more helpful. I’m arguing that this chick thinks that because she went through detox in jail she deserves some medal than people that did it through rehab. Because from all her comments that’s pretty much what she has been implying.
0 likesI feel so lucky I never had physical withdrawals from heroin. Mine were all mental, I was damn near psychotic. Ive never had physical withdrawals from anything I quit, caffeine as well. Kind of odd.
1 likeOhh, poor junkie.
0 likes@Ryan that’s interesting. Did you only use for a short time period? HONESTLY I could do all the puking in the world but the mental/anxiety NEVER AGAIN.
1 like@Lauren Murray I probably used over the course of 5 or 6 years total. Quit a couple of times for a month or so before relapsing. The most I ever did was a bit over a half of a gram a day which is pretty tame compared to other people I knew. I dont know how I never let myself do enough to get full on physically addicted. It might help that I mostly sniffed it so it would last longer(not sure if it works that way, but who knows).
0 likes@Lauren Murray Buy yeah, looking back, my already bad mental health was made significantly worse from coming off of heroin. I can totally understand the mental anxiety part.
0 likesThis is what an innocent person acts like. Not all weirdly polite and rambling, but calling out cops on their bullshit and being annoyed.
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Orr he guilty but charming and intelligent
91 likesNot necessarily
42 likesIf you generalize those common characteristics of guilt or innocence you would find yourself with a lot of false accusations. People who are innocent often get defensive and assert their story confidently.
112 likesEh people are different, on the other hand making generalities is dangerous
27 likes@Jim Sum right.
3 likesGod bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
6 likes@olivia grace foh
5 likes@constantnipples If you think he's intelligent, then your bar for it is very very very low.
3 likes@olivia grace mam am muslim
6 likes@olivia grace as a great believer in Norse Mythology i find this tripe offensive
3 likes@olivia grace this is offensive for me please delete it
9 likesRambling is a good sign of deceit. The more complicated the answer, the more likely it’s full of nonsense.
1 likeNah Jeff is a legend but he did that shit
2 likesJCS' video "guilty until proven innocent" has a polite innocent person
0 likes@God Of Spaghett I agree with your first statement but the second sentence shows that you clearly completely misunderstood/misread the OP's comment. They were saying that innocent people do "get defensive and assert their story confidently".
0 likes@Jim Sum isn't that a generality😂
0 likes@God Of Spaghett many people that are not guilty get defensive because they know they didn't do anything and get upset that they would be accused
0 likesNot true at all considering there’s videos on this channel of the Canadian dude who was super polite and was innocent
2 likesNot sure about Jeff being completely innocent. He got into a defensive stance as soon as the police asked him about his friend's gun. He might not be completely involved but he might know some stuff that he's not telling. But he was smart throughout the interrogation, probably had a lot of experience in similar situations with the police. Smart enough be released without having any charges brought on him.
0 likes@olivia grace oh my god that's crazy,
0 likes@Cheeseburger Inparadise Being a "thug" or an addict doesn't mean they don't tell the truth once in a while. And it doesn't mean they rob every single place you accuse them of.
0 likesWham bam! Thank you for the coke now put me back in the cell ☠☠ 9:23
0 likesThe best antihero you came up with was bad Santa? Really?
0 likesDid he have to subtitle the “mmmmmm”’s 😆
0 likesincase one person watching doesn’t know. heroin withdrawl is terrible. and knowing you are gonna be locked in a cold cell while going thru it is a terrifying thought.
0 likesThanks for the coke 💀
1 likeJeff, I don't think you did it.
0 likesHe is a seasoned veteran.
0 likesJeff is Legend.
0 likesWham bam thank you for the coke, I do heroin - jeff
1 likeDude just wanted to drink Coke.
1 likeAm never going to admire a heroin user. I’m sure he has hurt a lot of people in his time.
0 likesI WOULD TAKE PRISON OVER THE JOB WITH COKE.
1 likeNever Talk To COPS .... Never call the COPS ... NEVER
0 likesWhen ask if you do understand....you just have to say
0 likesI´m not stand under nothing
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jeff got corona and he looks rly bad.... I hope he gets well soon :/
0 likesI like Jeff. he's nice.
0 likesOh god the social cringe is killing me just 2 minutes in, lmao what a troll.
1 like"Thanks for the Coke"
1 likeI feel like people more like him because he said he wasn't gonna talk to them, but they kept trying, which I think we all can agree is shitty. Like, after he said he wasn't gonna say anything and asked for a lawyer, they shouldn't be able to keep trying. At all.
0 likesYou have the right to remain silent. Do you understand? Answer the question!!!
0 likes“All youse tryna get is some stupid ass fucking confession” brilliant….
0 likes“Where do you get your methadone”
5811 likes“I don’t, i get heroin”
FUNNIER THAN ELLENS WHOLE CAREER💀
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Ellen Page or Ellen Degenerate?
48 likesHahahaha either way this was funny as all get out! 🤣 🤣
13 likesLol. Altho it probably ain't funny when you live it.
7 likes@whyisblue923taken it’s Elliot Page
62 likes@Kip00 And he's a he now, not she, I believe
21 likes@ZeidGho nobody mentioned his gender but ok
10 likes@ObiWAANKenobi 44 No someone said that Ellen is now Elliott.. so I'm saying that she didn't just change her name.. she changed her name because she's a he now. Just to clarify
9 likesIt's sad to me I seen people go through these withdrawals it's horrible it can kill u
2 likesHeroin is evil people always tell me I'm lucky for being allergic to it
2 likesAnything is funnier than ellens career
7 likes@Derek Staroba what happens when you tried it?
1 like@The Besties just get really sick for hours feel like I'm gonna die and keep throwing up and dry heaving. Get real thirsty but can't drink because I just throw up and start sweating profusely
1 like@The Besties years ago took a percaset and was sick over 8 hours and I was really healthy and exercising a ton at the time. I always worry they might give it to me by accident if I was ever in the hospital
1 like@Derek Staroba By sick, what were your symptoms? Throwing up? Or something else?
0 likes@Derek Staroba Sorry, I just saw your other comment. So it's actually not that uncommon for your first time taking an opiate to make you repeatedly vomit. Some are way more sensitive than others though. It doesn't necessarily mean you're allergic. Which may be a good thing for you if you're ever in an emergency. Often if the person hasn't had opiates, but need for a surgery, they'll give them anti nausea meds with it. I have known people when they started taking oxycontin, or whatever you know, they barf nonstop from it, but yet still like the feeling, so they come back. Eventually they get addicted. Even in addicts, some get used to it, but some still puke.
1 like@The Besties I've tried it several times believe me it's not a good feeling I think u are mistaken it feels like I'm dying I've had a lot of people try to tell me otherwise and even have people get literally angry and frustrated over the fact that I don't get "hi" I also observed others and what it happens when they take it like "nodding off" and it looks very bad to me and yes I would say evil but I digress
1 like@ZeidGho this world is just so fuck up now ,,glad most of this cross gendering is in the US most of it that is
1 like@martin kerr I've known 3 in my life (I'm not from the US)
0 likesAll three were born intersex.. I believe they wait to a certain age to see which gender is more dominant. All three started as females and turned into males at the age of 19. 2 of them over the years became males with beards and wide frames. 1 still looked like a female, her voice didn't change, but the doctors still decided to keep her a male because of the male genitalia. But I believe you're talking about people who decide to change because they want to, not their actual bodies deciding this.
A car crash is funnier than Ellen's career 😅
4 likes@Kip00 wrong ellen
1 like@Derek Staroba its not allergy dude , the first time you try heroin /morphine etc , throwing up is absolutely normal, you vomit a lot. People really allergic to opioids fall into coma
1 likeLuv u 4 this.
1 likeFunniest
1 likeAt one am this was astoundingly funny!
0 likesA
2 likes@Derek Staroba while there are some forms of drug withdrawals that can kill you (such as withdrawals from alcohol, benzos, barbiturates, etc), opioid withdrawal very rarely does, except in prisons where people don't treat it and effectively kill folk through dehydration (from sweating, puking, and diarrhea). The fact that it very rarely kills you also doesn't detract from how unbelievably hellish of an experience it can be (it's often described as a flu but that's really only qualitatively speaking. It goes far beyond the realm of imagination for the average folk), and it's gonna be especially bad when you've been abusing an opioid like heroin and for so many years. The fact that that man had to spend so many hours there must've been horrible as straight faced as he may have been.
5 likes@whyisblue923taken *elliot
1 like😆😆😆
0 likesPretty sure it wasn't a joke. Where's the funny??
2 likesTrying to read these comments is like walking in a maze that loops it's self
2 likesnot really. Ellen's funnier.
1 likeF*"* yeah...I laughed so hard at this comment...cause I use "h"...
0 likesI laughed so hard- that was so out of pocket
0 likesThere's a Jeff every 100 yards.
0 likesThe title should state "Jeff" is a legend
0 likesPlease do a video on Jacob Stockdale
0 likeshe was right tho
0 likesRemember this rule:
4170 likes“Am I under arrest?”
“No” —> k bye
“Yes” —> Lawyer
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Jeff without a doubt is an addict but you can tell that he is not responsible what the fuck happens here based on his tone of voice and his natural badass manner
238 likesYou can be detained and not free to go but not under arrest. But yeah as a general rule that is good. If you are detained don't talk to cops. Everything can and will be used against you. Not to help you
185 likesNice joke mate but idk about the comments above me
6 likesHe asked for a lawyer and they didn't get him one 😕
94 likes@Amy K probably because they can hold him for like up to 8 hours or whatever.
12 likes@Evexin you no nothing so why say probly haha. If someone request a lawyer there menna get 1 straight away it’s best to always get legal advice before u say ANyTHInG
8 likes@Evexin as soon as you express a human right they make you out as if your being an inconvenience to them and against them
15 likes@Grant H I'm pretty sure that they have to tell you what it is you're being detained for, and if they can't answer that then it's k bye!
4 likesIts soooo simple
0 likes@Danny Tourigny they do. But an example might be a traffic ticket. You aren't under arrest but you can't leave. But you also don't have to say anything. You just need to provide license registration and insurance but you don't have to say anything
2 likesThanks NickGurr!
1 like@Kier TiVi this right here is why the world is going to shit
0 likesStop judging a book by it’s cover
He is an armed robber
How exactly do you expect an armed robber to respond?
@Grant H they need to come up with a term that describes being "detained" and NOT free to go. I don't think there is one. Or, it was supposed to be "detained," but then they perverted it and no one said anything lol
0 likesRemain silent! Get a lawyer!
1 likeand what if there's no answer like "Yes/No"?
0 likeslol this dude definitely doesnt work for Coca Cola but he also is probably not in prison. He's just a sad junkie whos too smart to be in his situation
0 likesJeff is a legend ! Coca Cola legend
0 likesI am always two steps ahead
1 likeHis name totally was Jeff.
0 likesI can't stress this enough absolutely never talk to the cops when you're picked up for shit like this. Even if you're completely innocent, sadly their motive is to send you to jail. Because once they get key information that they could mold to make it look like you did it that's all they're looking for.
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Wow lol
8 likesThat’s facts
33 likesAnyone who hasn't already needs to immediately Look up the video "Don't talk To The Police" by Professor James Duane. Watch it, then watch it again
52 likesWhat kind of idiot helps police investigate themselves? Any lawyer worth their salt will tell you you never under any circumstance talk to police. Anything you say can and will be held against you but it will never be used in your favor.
7 likesThey also get promotions if they can get a confession
5 likesMemorize these words: “I don’t answer questions”, and my personal favorite- “I decline to comment on any questions, but out of respect I am handing you my lawyers card.” After that you DONT SAY ANOTHER DAMN WORD!
0 likesjeffs lowkey fine
0 likesI’d bet my entire net worth that that guy does not work for Coke at their headquarters in their marketing division. Living in Atlanta, I see their job postings pop up and it’s ridiculous. It’s like entry level job - PHD in astrophysics required.
0 likesI have a hard time believing a dude that was was strung out for nearly two decades got hired on. Not saying it’s not possible to turn your life around, I just highly doubt he went from drug addict with multiple felonies on his record to working for one of the most sought after companies around.
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I think you misunderstood. It said his outcome was unknown which implies that him working for coca cola was merely a comedic suggestion or a "legend". Otherwise putting your life savings on it isn't a bad call!
1 like@Paddy Larkin that makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification.
0 likesSling Blade says....I'll take some French fried tater if ya got um...mmmhmm
0 likesYo, how come your partner ain't talking? "My name is Jeff."
0 likesJeff is a hero because, even though he's withdrawing from heroine with a decade long habit, he can still make fools out of 2 cops
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Probably got high right before the robbery (if he did it) typically takes at least 24 hours since last use for withdrawal to hit. He’s not showing any real symptoms here and likely didn’t the entire time he was in jail. Probably got high within an hour of being released and never felt a thing.
10 likes@Mr. Ryan with an addition like his, he could of been feeling withdrawals anywhere from 12-16hrs, maybe even less depending on delivery. He definitely felt something, I can tell by his movement.
14 likes( ex heroine addict for 8yrs )
@No Mind I’m not too familiar with Methadone, is it the same as Suboxone where if you take it with dope still in your system you go into precipitated withdrawal?
1 like@Mr. Ryan no, methadone is not the same as suboxine.
5 likesNo matter what time you take methadone during a withdrawal it will cease all withdrawl symptoms.
But he didn't take methadone, right?
@No Mind nah he didn’t get any but asked for it. I’ve gone into precipitated myself taking subs too early and was thinking this guy was nuts and probably gonna end up sweating like crazy and shitting his pants if he took it, but I guess they’re not the same.
4 likes@Mr. Ryan ooo nah.
2 likesIf he would of taken it, he would of been right as rain
@Mr. Ryan how are you doing now man?
1 like@No Mind good buddy. 2 years and 3 months clean on sub maintenance. Hbu?
5 likes@Mr. Ryan thank God. you're still on suboxone?
2 likesI've been off since 2016.
But i have been on and off of Kratom
@No Mind keep at it bro. How does weed treat you? Perhaps switching to edibles would be better than kratom. Personally during the time i was on kratom my heart didn't feel right. And i had a thing called SVT happen where your heart starts beating extremely fast (i was 190 bpm when i got to the hospital). Scared tf outta me and helped me stop kratom. I was using mostly maeng da. I'm curious if you've noticed any ill effects with your heart while on kratom?. But i was living with my ex gf and she was really what was keeping me straight at the time. Loved that bitch ahah. Since then been through bouts of heroin use usually not lasting longer than a month (I'm able to force myself to quit because i know how horrible withdrawals will be). Luckily i have access to suboxone illegally. I'm trying to taper off of subs currently. Taking about a half a sub a day. Good luck man, would love to hear back on your experience w/kratom!
0 likes@Mr. Ryan do you plan on tapering off of suboxone? I'm down to half a strip daily but it's rough. I don't have a prescription and can't really afford to be paying 10$ a strip, so tapering is a necessity for me rn. I can't work if I'm sick but i need to work so i can't be sick. Lol it sucks. But I'm glad to hear you are doing good bro keep with it!
0 likesEdit: my insurance doesn't cover suboxone so ive been having to buy it from the street. Which is fkin shitty because I'm probably supporting someone's heroin addiction as they're selling scripts to buy dope.
@Lbot beenthere it's derived from leaves off of a tree in southeast Asia. That tree is part of the coffee/tea family i believe. At small doses it has stimulating effects similar to caffeine. But when you take higher doses (over 5 grams) its reported to have a more opiate-like effect. There's also different strains that produce different effects.
1 like@Lbot beenthere Personally, i used it for work. I have knee problems and was always on my feet. Its very good at dealing with aches and pains even if you are micro-dosing (taking like 1 gram).
1 like@Lbot beenthere Kratom is definitely addictive for some people, but nowhere near as bad as pills or other opiates. If you take too much, you will simply throw up. Get capsules, and order them online from a reputable seller. Or order the powder and make your own capsules (powder is generally higher quality than pre-capsuled kratom but it just depends on your source). If you order the powder alone it is very nasty to chug. I'd advise to stay away from smoke shop kratom, but if you're in a pinch most smoke shops do carry it, but the quality of the powder is actually pretty important. As far as strains go id advise you to do some research into that. The red Thai strains are supposedly good for pain. Get a few different strains and see which works best for you. If you feel any ill effects then another option for you could be CBD oil or edibles.
1 like@Lbot beenthere best of luck. Back injuries are scary.
1 like@squanchy squanch I started off on 12 mg a day just over 2 years ago, reduced to 8mg a day after about a year, and am taking a half of an 8mg strip= 4 mg a day now for several months. My goal is to ultimately not need them at all but my insurance has covered it and allowed me to do it gradually to this point. Along with some type of group therapy ( NA meetings, IOP groups) I recommend suboxone maintenance to any former dope addicts. I wish your healthcare would give you the option to obtain medication I feel is as necessary to an addict as insulin is to a diabetic but the system is mostly broken. I wish you the best friend.
2 likes@Jewels inSD no one in this comments replies has anyone said anything remotely close to what you’re rambling and name calling about.
4 likesJewels inSD not for nothing, Jeff isn’t stupid by any means. The proof is in the pudding. The officers did everything in their power to make Jeff incriminate himself, and yet the tactics of these professionals didn’t work on “some junkie scumbag”....they presented him with a game, and he outplayed them. Simple as that. At the very least he has shown that he isn’t stupid.
1 like@Mr. Ryan - If you're shooting heroin, multiple times and grams per day, you can start withdrawal within a few hours. He definitely was going through withdrawal. His nose was running, legs were restless and he was getting anxiety. He wasn't in full blown withdrawal, but they were setting in.
1 likeYes
0 likesMr. Ryan I’m on subs after getting addicted to pain pills and being on them for over 10 years from military injuries. They wanted to put me back on perks once I told them of my problem and trying to withdrawal on my own but I said no and said put me on sub. I still get fentanyl for my SI injections every three months and don’t have any side effects. I take my medicine before the procedure as well because I found it helps more than not taking it for a couple days before. Seems not having any side effect is not normal? Been on them for five years now. I thought it would cause me to be sick with the mix but it doesn’t. I do not get any buzz from the fentanyl and it seems to only help a small amount. I can’t smoke or do edibles because I value my CCP to much to give it up.
0 likesNicole so you’re taking subs everyday, but come off them to get fent injections only before procedures? If that’s the case you are 100% going to get sick just from being on subs that long. It’s going to take a lot longer to get sick from not taking subs, then it is any other opiate for the most part. Usually takes about 24-36 hours to really start getting minor w/d from subs, and the real w/d’s don’t kick in until about 36-48 hours, maybe that’s why you don’t feel sick when you stop the subs for a day or two before getting fent injections? I was on subs for 10 years as well almost, and when I went cold turkey I had to take 7 weeks off of work before I got my strength back and the random tired fits went away enough where I could work. I do construction so it was really tough to be able to go back while sick. Getting addicted to pain pills, then doing dope was the worst thing that ever happened to me, but I used kratom to ween down properly so I could still work and not go into a detox. Kratom is a god send and works amazing, and the w/d’s are nowhere near as bad as any opiate or sub...
0 likes@squanchy squanch hey buddy, sorry for l8 reply. I have a weird relationship with weed. When I got off kratom before my stint now, I smoked a weed pen and was the dumbest idiot alive, just couldn't think to save my life. I couldn't work like that so I had figure something else out. I started using gabapentin and it worked great. But then i started working a very physical job that was tearing me apart so I started using Bali kratom again for the pain but ended up staying on. I've noticed that kratom from head shops are using crap quality and it does mess with my heart a bit. ( clarity kratom ) is probably your best bet when using head shop kratom but the rest is filler garbage that will mess you up. Also kratom from bulk suppliers is usually a cleaner , better quality kratom that shouldn't mess with your heart. God bless man, stay in touch, stay away from H man. I used to get fentanyl thinking it was H and I've od'd so many times it's a miracle I'm still breathing.
0 likes@gypsykingg this is exactly what was happening to Jeff
0 likesNicole also having subs in your system before doing any other opiate is not going to get you sick. They are probably giving you fent for your procedures bc they need something really strong to overpower the subs in your brains’ opiate receptors. That’s why u don’t really get a buzz bc they have probably dialed the fent dose in well enough to kill pain but not too much to get you buzzed. But if you went the opposite, and had opiates in your system, and took subs too early, you’d throw yourself into precipitated w/d’s and you’d feel the worst sickness you will ever feel in your life. I only did it once and I wanted to run out into traffic to end it. Worst feeling on earth. Good luck with recovery, shit is a long hard road.... 🙃
0 likes@Nicole sounds like it’s two different doctors that prescribed you subs for your opiate addiction and fentanyl for your sacroiliac. You wouldn’t be effected by the fentanyl shot if on subs but if you took suboxone within 2 days after a shot of fentanyl you would likely end up in precipitated withdrawal. Everybody’s responses to this stuff is different, but I’d recommend you lay of the suboxone following your fentanyl shots.
0 likes7:00 anyone else referred to John Olivers last piece?
0 likesNow I really want a coke
1 likeI feel bad for any person who’s charged with a crime whether falsely accused or not. People don’t commit crimes without reason and many don’t have a choice. Unless it’s something truly heinous and unjustifiable like rape, torture, or serial murder, they’re still just a normal person like you or I and just made a snap decision/mistake, or seemingly had no other choice.
0 likesI thought this was going to show the "my name jeff" soundbyte origin. Disappointed.
0 likesHe's got a suicide pair of pants and shirt, and he doesn't snitch lol 😂. He is very smart, u always show them ur in control of this and no I am not talking so bring me back to my cell. U don't argue with them and he's right, they don't want to help you and they ant ur friend. Any good lawyer will tell you, never say a word to them because you will only make it harder for him to help you. They want you to say u did it but he knew exactly what you say. I want my lawyer and bring me back to my cell because I don't talk to the police. No they let him go because u can't hold someone without anyone talking and the lawyer told the cops, charge him for the crime or let him go. U can't just hold someone just because u want to, they will get sued. It's no legend behind it, they deal with this everyday. Just some like him and me and others, if they don't have nothing they will tell you exactly what they have and he doesn't have anything and u know they don't because he gave it away. U just have to be a smart azz if ur arrested, if ur under arrest, everybody I know want talk and say if I'm arrested u take me back to my cell. They can't hold you but 12 hours and he knows they don't have nothing. But u don't talk to them because most people will talk their way in prison and u all have seen it. If they would just say if I'm not arrested I'm leaving but take me to the cell if u are because I ant saying nothing, why are you going to do their job, he wants you to give him the evidence and if they interview you like this, they are running out of time, I know the same thing they know and I'm going to wave when I leave, tell me the evidence because you don't have no evidence
0 likesForgive what bro?! You’ve played a longer clip of bad grandpa than the vid
0 likesHeroin addict loves that Coke...that should probably tell a lot about soda.
1 likeYou only get 15 to 20 for murder in New Zealand.
0 likes______> OPENS COKE CAN WITH TEETH…….BOSS SHIT RIGHT THERE
0 likesDoes anybody have any info on the narrator of this piece? He sounds like a guy that worked for The Young Turks and now works for a conservative outlet, and I can't for the life of me recall his name. AND IT'S BUGGIN' ME! I suffer from Bidenitis.
0 likesWham bam thank u for the Coke now put me back in my cell! Legendary
1 likeWhere da fuq did all of his comments go lol
5 likesJeff: " oh your playing good cop?"
2462 likesCop: " no normally I'm a prick"
Jeff:" you look like a prick"
Jeff is a hero
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Yeah man he had me right there, I root for him^^
23 likesThe anti-hero
14 likesIt was funny , but no . He's not my hero . Dude rob someone , armed robbery . Jeff on the gear , so probably a old lady ....
13 likesI mean I'm usually against people being rude for no reason but this certainly is an honest answer 😂😂
13 likesJeff is a hero...
22 likesa hero-in addict
@David King Allegedly.
3 likes@David King Jeff didnt do shit i totally believe him. Like why would he walk up to cops swarming an area if he committed an armed robery
6 likes@Ay1 he isnt on meth.
1 likeWhat's the time stamp on that?
0 likesI couldn't find it.
I like Jeff
1 likeJ C 1:33
1 likeWork hard, and you can be a "hero" like him one day.
0 likes@David Kinggear is roids Jeff not on gear
0 likes“So wam bam thank u for the coke put me back in my cell”
0 likesyou know jeff.. or jeff knows you?..
0 likesWhy was the body language analysis cut from the video?
1 likei love jeff
0 likesHe was acting all defensive just to get Coke. Genius
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American move
12 likesDrugs, they mess you up.
2 likes@Zero1 ZeroLast he was talking about the drink brother
23 likes@Jack Miles r/whooosh?
3 likesCoke gives you a sugar rush, you become more susceptible to interrogation when you crash.
4 likes@Jon M ...no.. he was a junkie going through withdrawls, the sugar is all he was looking for, hence the request first for methodone, then for 2 cokes and a butterfinger.
0 likesIf you never understand the right read to you then you cannot be charged
0 likesWell shit. GO JEFF!
0 likesIs he guilty?
0 likesLittle do we know this is in fact, a coke ad.
0 likesOfficer : You have the right to remain silent
3845 likesJeff : Remain Silent
Officer : Surprised Pikachu Face
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😂 LOL
11 likes🙈🙉🙊
0 likesNot just the officer, you as well
0 likesDon't mind these other cats. I thought that was one of the funniest parts of the video. He told him the he had a right to remain silent, and then kept asking him the same question demanding a response. That's either a massive contradiction or a very slow officer.
40 likes@TheMengusDew Psychology, the officer did try to be nice, aim for getting a confession, the job is stressful tbh I mean, from here, I could tell it is stressful when your job is to gain information but then the law says this way and the suspect behave like that. Damn.
2 likesI can't believe the cop wasn't smart enough to get it...
12 likes@Foken Dikhed He did get it. But because he was trying to do his job he didn't break his professionalism. These guys are smart - no way that got past him.
3 likesGem damn whats with the hate? And yeah, he did.
1 like@E You mean he was trying to pressure a suspect into giving up one of their constitutional rights
2 likesJohn Doe What is pikachu?
0 likesIntellect 9000.
0 likesPaul MacGregor That wouldn’t be giving up their rights, because they have the right at all times to remain silent no matter what
0 likes@Stoner gamer He has the right to an attorney, speaking without one present is sacrificing that right. It doesn't mean it's gone permanently just that its gone in that moment. He's trying to manipulate someone into doing something that can only hurt him
0 likes@TheMengusDew jeff does have a right to remain silent, but that doesn't change the fact that the officer needs him to talk.
0 likeshow does he prove he understood or explain his consent by not answering the question? they need to know the suspect understood, it's the protocol and it's normal human contact. Then after that, he CAN and HAS THE RIGHT to remain silent.
0 likesHow do we live in a society where people like Kim Kardashian are famous but nobody gives Jeff his own TV show?
0 likesLegend Jeff😂😂😂
0 likesThis guy's the voice of Lucky on king of the hill.
0 likesi remember this one
0 likes"Playing the good cop"
9121 likes"No normally im the prick"
"You look like a prick"
That made me laugh.
Edit:most likes I've ever gottan
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@SINGLETON222 thanks
25 likesLmao I died as well. So badass hahaha
60 likes*pauses*
21 likes"This... is Jeff"
i read that comment and then it played you were right that was funny
2 likesSo many parts of this got me to laugh literally out loud.
4 likes#findjeff
2 likesTeam Jeff! 🤘🏾
2 likesBryan Brody dame I’m actually angry at myself for how much I laughed during this 🤣🥴
0 likesThe best part is where the narrator chimes in and says, "This is Jeff."
6 likesI couldn't write that if I tried.
0 likesMans a legend we need more like him
0 likessounded like a batman villian
0 likes@Apex Shinøbi showing the example of the Bad Santa movie, which I've never seen, but it looks like the Joker movie borrowed from that movie where the scene where the Santa is in the change room with the midget. The Joker movie really clouded the anti-hero image
0 likesThat is epic
1 like@MercuryFever you can. I believe in you
0 likesUnderstandable have a great day
2 likesI looked for a comment with that immediately when i heard it, its my favorite quote from this series
2 likesMe too
1 likeLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
1 like@SINGLETON222 thanks u legend
0 likesThe deadpan delivery was flawless. Jeff is a legend.
2 likesHe asked for that #pricknumber1
0 likesYou kinda ruined it with your edit.
2 likesEdit: epic reddit moment
2 likesMake another edit... Gottan isn't a word!
2 likesWhen did people start treating YouTube like it's plebbit?
0 likesBaron Corbin I gave a like, just for the edit! 👍
1 likeCongratulations 👏. Well done. I bet you're bursting with pride..
1 likeCongrates... xD
0 likesI know this is about the robbery, but DANG 6’5 and 153 lbs?! Cuz of the heroine? 😗 that’s kinda crazy
0 likesHe gave him a soda because they want his DNA
0 likesCan't believe you get coke in the US jail system
0 likesin Scotland we get water and fuck all else haha
Cereal bar to eat haha
suspect had a black hoodie, police officer has a black hoodie, just saying. Should get him and a bottle of coke into an interrogation room.
1 likeHe asked for a lawyer. They can't/shouldn't question him until he gets one.
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@alex Care to explain how the original comment showed a lack of understanding of "the law"?
4 likesWelp, lets discuss "the law". In this case the law is a 1966 United States Supreme Court ruling in Miranda v. Arizona. Being a SCOTUS ruling, it becomes the law of the land, meaning the law in the entire country.
47 likesIn this ruling they say:
"If the individual indicates in any manner, at any time prior to or during questioning, that he wishes to remain silent, the interrogation must cease ... If the individual states that he wants an attorney, the interrogation must cease until an attorney is present. At that time, the individual must have an opportunity to confer with the attorney and to have him present during any subsequent questioning."
Seems to me the law has been clear since 1966. He requested an attorney, there should be no further questions until there is an attorney to represent him during questioning. Any smart attorney would tell the cops to go fuck themselves and prove the charges without the suspects answers.
@Supervillain321 the supreme court doesnt make laws. they issue opinions. good comment otherwise
0 likes@clownworld heretic (Myron) it seems the original comment i was responding to has been deleted. The entire context might not be there. But i think the idea of "the law" and the law of the land described the supreme court's role in making things "law" without them actually being "law". In this case the supreme courts decision is binding in the entire country, it is essentially law.
2 likesU a cop?
0 likesWhat answers
0 likesWhat you say is true except it was (Jeff) doing the luring
0 likesI hope Jeff is happy.
0 likesWtf they said he work for coke 🤣😂 I'm shittin 💀
0 likesThe peoples champ 🙌
0 likesNow I wanna coke! Lol
0 likesDoes no one else find it problematic that despite him requesting a lawyer, that they kept bringing him back into interrogation without one?
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Zach, I wanna live in your realm!
27 likesProblematic? Of course, but they're cops so they'll do as much as they can manage to get away with lol. Problematic, absolutely. Shocking? Absolutely not
222 likes@Bobby Brady right on buddy
13 likesOur law system and medical system is non-existent.
52 likesOur medical system in the US is a fucking hustle.
Our judicial system is a police state.
And it's all owned by our fucked up thugy cartels that love to call themselves "billionaires and millionaires" and their distancing act calling their businesses corporations so they're not legally responsible for any disaster or illegal acts their cartels do.
This man should have had a lawyer provided as soon as he stated he didn't want to talk to them.
And he was entrapped in given food and drink to entice to talk... this should be illegal unless used for military purposes. Using this for civil criminal courts is very improper... it isn't uncommon to misspeak even in when innocent of a crime.
We should have a rehab program for the multitude of drug addicted people that they can be remanded into custody particularly if the use makes them completely unable to make basic reasonable decisions.
And not some prison sentence that consigns them to a lifetime of shit jobs and no hope often resulting in more crimes and more drug use.
He admits at one point that he told them he would talk to them for a coke and a butterfinger and then says later that he only told them that so he could get a coke, so I think we're missing some of the picture as well. And to be fair they did read him his rights every time and took his addiction into account.
23 likesIm pretty sure he told them he would talk and than they dont need to wait for a lawyer, because it was is own wish to talk.
19 likesI dont think they could have put him there and tell him to talk with them even tho he wanted a lawyer and if they did i dont think he wouldn´t talk about it on the video.
Btw nice hate for no reason on the Cops lol.
@jhnnytsunami1 It actually not illegal to keep asking you questions after you have asked for a lawyer. Your answers probably won't be admissible in court but yeah they can ask you questions. So before you condemn all police, just look up the policies for your State. Not all cops are bad bro
29 likes@moz zo wow "just protocol "...nice to be above the law ain't it moz? Crooked and proud of it.
5 likesAny subsequent statements would be inadmissible as evidence against him.
7 likes@Wanheda2112 this is 100% correct. You a lawyer or just well-read?
7 likesWelcome to the Justice System! ACAB
1 likeYeah I found that very problematic.
3 likes@Paul Pantsoff not sure why you think you know what you're talking about. Go read case law. The 5th amendment violation occurs at the statement's introduction into evidence. Even then it can be used for impeachment purposes and not for its truth. This is complicated stuff
2 likes@Forever Raining nah, I love it when the government follows the rules. Personally I think it's abhorrent to push the limits like this, but what they did isn't illegal
1 likeIt is complete BS. Find an attorney, get their card, and carry it on you.. Memorize the number. Once you get a call, if they haven't given you an attorney already, call the number on the card. Worry about paying that shit off later once you are free to go.
1 likeAmerica. End of story
3 likesBobby Brady don’t forget who protects your ass from real criminals or protesters. I don’t live in America so I can’t understand how cops are in that country, but here they do their best and law stands in their way most of the time.
2 likes@moz zo lol my bad. I'm with ya now. I was worked up and got carried away and didn't read your comment correctly. Sorry.
1 likeAnything he says after asking for a lawyer is inadmissible.
0 likesThat doesn't mean dick. Fucking genius.
1 likeACAB
1 like@Keto uh yea, dunno where yer at but it's pretty much the opposite here in cheetoland
0 likesYup
0 likes@jhnnytsunami1 No, it is Not
0 likeshad the same thing happen to me on robbery charges lol
0 likes@jhnnytsunami1 Actually I'm not related to any cops I just choose to respect those who are there to protect us and uphold the law. I also choose to believe that not all people are bad and therefore not all cops are bad.
3 likesYep. Violation of his rights.
1 likeDid you not hear him say he asked to come back so he could get another Coke? And a Butterfinger
1 like@T L Just well read my friend
0 likes@jhnnytsunami1 I don't have any issues with anyone who wants to peacefully protest and exercise their 1st Amendment rights. "Peacefully" being the operative word there. I do not condone violence, rioting or looting from anyone, regardless if the cause.
3 likesThe fact this guy is an addict and has been through the system several times before and was never given help or rehabilitation makes my blood bool
2 likesNo, it’s not problematic because just as he asked for a lawyer, he can also agree to talk without a lawyer. He asked for a lawyer the first time and they let him go. The next sessions, he didn’t mention a lawyer so he evidently offered to talk without one.
0 likesBobby Brady wait for it...you’ve been arrested before...right? 😂😂😂 “The people who scream for barriers to be removed benefit by the removals of barriers!” Want to reduce your interaction with cops? Don’t break the law!! 😂😂😂
1 likejhnnytsunami1 uh, no it’s not illegal to talk to a suspect after they ask for a lawyer IF they agree to talk without one! 😂😂😂 Keep that in mind as you graduate law school.
0 likesfootballgirl1406 agree! I think there’s some people on this thread that may not have had the most positive experience with the law...😂
2 likesRemember everything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law . So after they read you your rights say you want a lawyer and keep your mouth shut . Thank me later
2 likesNo only bc he was telling them he would talk. If they were just going back to his cell and bringing him back in to question him, itd be illegal. That's why they read him his rights each time they brought him in. He admits that he only said he'd talk to get a coke and butterfinger
0 likes"Problematic" ok liberal lmao
0 likesAlso the cop claims that he has enough physical evidence to prove he did it. Then, why are they trying still getting him to confess?
0 likesFormer cop here, as long as they read his rights each time they talk, whichever time he signs that he understands his rights and doesn't want a lawyer, that's the one they keep. The rest go in a shredder.
0 likes@Wanheda2112 I wish we all lived in Mayberry with Andy Griffith and Barney Fife, but cops don't protect anything where I come from. Making arrests and writing parking tickets doesn't make anyone an upholder of the law. Really, if your job is to arrest people, isn't in your best interest to find ways to arrest people? I know cops, they aren't particularly bright or good people, and they certainly aren't philosophers. You can't live in the United States and claim that the police uphold the law, either in practice or by job description. Sorry, I really am, but I live in the United States and I cannot agree with your uninformed idealism approaching an inaccurate assessment of reality. Much love from bayou country.
1 likeOh cops will do anything to make sure you don't talk to a lawyer, cops will lie to you, they'll tell you that you're gonna go to jail so you might as well confess and all that... DEMAND A LAWYER BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING
0 likes@Antonino Bilello I also live in the United States so I don't appreciate you calling me uninformed and idealistic when I see good cops every day. I'm not saying every one is perfect but it's also not fair to say that all cops aren't particularly bright or good people just because you've had encounters with bad cops. Not all people are smart or nice but that doesn't mean everyone's bad does it? I say that yes your experiences inform your views of cops but so do mine. The middle ground is what matters and that is that not all cops are bad, I hope we can at least agree on that.
2 likes@Wanheda2112 I never said I hadn't met helpful or polite cops. I'm guessing if you see cops every single day you work with a security detail? I'm "good" to people I can't stand if I have to work with them. You said you don't have any cops in your family? All of these things you've admitted to freely are claims of ignorance that I can't claim. Why then lack appreciation for the truths that are your idealistic social expectations and a decidedly narrow set of experiences? A contradiction to your perspectives and self-perception is something, on the contrary, to appreciate, if it's honest. We haven't lied to each other, have we? Thank you for your time, and please thank your daily police workers for being good people for me when you see them.
1 like@Jackie Bunny 🗣️Preach! I'm always super polite and nice to cops. When they've tried to get on my case, guess what? They just get upset. If the average person knew how much overtime pay for cops came out of taxpayer treasuries for paperwork (read: ruining someone's day or WHOLE LIFE for their job and advancement), we would have had protests far before Mr Floyd was killed.
1 like@Antonino Bilello No, I don't work in any sort of security job, I just live in an area with police departments that are very involved in the community. Though to your point, would the fact that you have different experiences than I do point to you also having a narrow set of experiences that contribute to your own ignorance? And I agree that experiences and ideas contradictory to my own are valuable and are to be respected. I do not believe we have lied to each other, I certainly haven't lied to you. I believe, as you said, that our individual life experiences contribute to our stances on this matter. I do appreciate that we've been able to have a civil discussion about this, it seems that's relatively difficult to do nowadays.
1 like@Wanheda2112 Sure, I can understand everything you've just said, but I was comparing my experiences in more than one city, more than one state, between calling the cops on private and commercial security breaches through the full spectrum of getting falsely accused, arrested, detained, and jailed. I've met polite cops, I've had cops cuss me out, and I've been interacted with them in all sorts of weather. I've interacted with wildlife and fisheries, many flavors of local cops, plus state troopers and sheriff's deputies. I've shaken hands with three different active sheriffs, but none of them were bright and none of them gave me the impression that they cared about anyone but their family, especially when they would tell me that in private, not to mention in different, more public circumstances. I would agree that the only way my experiences don't align with yours is that cops in the states and cities I've lived in don't care about their communities, so, again, thank those good cops you see every day for me.
1 like@Antonino Bilello Will do my friend. I'm sorry you've had so many bad experiences with law enforcement. And again thank you for the civil conversation on such a hot button topic that so many people seem to explode about these days
1 likeDude why didn't I think of that just play with cop they get tired of it 🤣🤣🤣
0 likesi love jeff
0 likesNow I want a coke
1 likeSo am I the only one that isnt into that anti hero bs?
0 likes“now you’ve handcuffed me “ - a cop talking to a person in literal handcuffs
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I think he was talking in his perspective
7 likes@WhatIsAnName yes which was ironic given the context
83 likesExactly my thoughts. Poor choice of words.
27 likesi always think about that.
1 like@BubbleArcadia Where's my coke at you promised. Or was that just a fairy tale
9 likesI laughed and said “well that’s a real poor choice of words” out loud when he said that lol
0 likesI think it was supposed to be ironic, to make him sympathize the cop more.
0 likesit's a psychological thing to make him more relatable
1 likeEvery day is Shut the Fuck Up Friday. Good work, Jeff.
0 likesWhy are you giving me an opening end?? Is he working in Coca-Cola company or he’s in jail now!!!
0 likesNever talk to cops. Never
0 likesWham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell
0 likesJeff " playing good cop?"
1202 likesCop"err no. Usually I'm the prick"
Jeff " you look like a prick"
Utterly priceless 🤣😂🤣
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I laughed so hard I woke my kids up.
12 likesYeah I fuckin love this dude. I can see why he’s become a fave.
11 likes@CoyKoi84 😄
3 likes@Victoria Lee Florence oh yeah, he seems like a real character
2 likes@rusty nuts Eeew
5 likesI laughed out loud so hard at this part hahaha
2 likesrusty nuts wow
2 likesAtta boy Jeff, way to hang tuff
1 likegratz you watched the same 30 second intro we all watched
1 like@G I think you just stated the obvious
0 likes@secretive Scorpio thanks for typing out what we all heard by watching. human wastebin
1 likeI get a crack up everytime 😂🤣
2 likes@G you are so welcome
0 likesYou reckon he deserves that mate.... He is obviously trying to stitch him up the detective is....
0 likes💀 🤣
0 likesCoyKoi84 jj
0 likesHe says” you look like a prick”
0 likesHe asked for lawyer THREE TIMES!! #FuckOffCop
1 likeOh and the cokes are always good for DNA 🙄
1 likeWithdrawal is horrible man, I would of been singing like a canary to get some methadone....Jeff is definitely a legend, that would be a nightmare situation to be in.
0 likesBilly Bob Thornton is an American Icon.
1 likeOfficer: You have the right to remain silent
8481 likesJeff:
Officer: heyyy why you no talk to me🥺👉👈
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CHOKES-
91 likes"Don't you wanna slap me baby-"
69 likesWhat you say may be used AGAINST you in court.
39 likesJeff: 1:36
37 likesOfficer: hello darkness my old friend...
Omg i love you and your name
9 likesthat 5head move, hahaha
4 likesI mean.... He wasn't saying whether he understood that was his right or not....💀
4 likes@RoseyAnne - right but it only benefits him to remain quiet. He could state he did not understand.
4 likes@Fluffy BRUH THERE NAME IS LITARALLY JUST NO
0 likes😂
1 like😂😂😂
1 likeDid jeff ever get his butter finger...?
0 likesWow i have a thing for jeff
0 likesWhat a champ
0 likesthanks for the coke❤😂
1 like“You have the right to remain silent”
1934 likeswondering why he’s not answering
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😂😂
13 likesOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
7 likessurprised pikachu face
10 likesI'm screaming
1 like😭😭😭😭😭
1 like@Detective M lol most cops got bullied in highschool and probably never went to college. They just want to be in a position of power to abuse people
2 likes@Detective M nice strawman
0 likes@Detective M never ever said that or insinuated that but ur trying to strawman my argument buddy thought he was gonna catch me lacking in this bih nice try tho
0 likes“I can’t finish it?”
0 likesLmfao ima have to rewatch bad Santa it's been yrs anyway
1 likeSmart guy lost in drugs
0 likes8:21 "No" "What?" "yeah"
0 likesJeff taught us all how to get free cokes in jail. Gotta love this guy.
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I originally read this as free cookies.
28 likesnoticed the torn sleeves
0 likes@A_True_Generic_Gamer me too
1 likenoticed the torn sleeves
0 likesI only read it as not cookies after reading your comment. Weird.
0 likesLet's not praise this dude.
0 likesA legend meme from his name: "My name Jeff"
0 likes"Love this guy"? Really? Did people really just forget he's convicted of armed robbery
0 likes@A_True_Generic_Gamer cookie monster in a prison bathroom stall with a spoon full of cookie dough and a lighter.
0 likesBrought to you by Coca-Cola 😉👍
2 likesI’m running out of videos to watch, can’t the rest be put on patreon??
0 likesThank Pepe this is still up...
0 likesJeff is a madman
0 likes“where do you usually get ur methadone”
3289 likes“i don’t i get heroin”
this gotta be a fuckin comedy sketch bruh LMAO
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I was thinking 'they really should give these dudes methadone if they're sick in jail', but then I realized he would never have been so smooth if they had because it would've softened him up. His game was SOLID for someone getting dope sick with 15yrs hanging over his head.
96 likes@Olmstead Runyon so true
6 likesWould've been funnier if he had added, "and I figured y'all didn't have heroin"
21 likesHad they given him the methadone, he could have later claimed the entire interrogation invalid because he was under the influence of something the police gave him
20 likes@Who Cares It's possible. They don't give men menthadone in jail in the USA, so I don't think there's any protocol for that sort of situation. Also, if you're used to shooting dope every day for ten years like Jeff, a little bit of methadone isn't going to do much to you, but I see what you mean.
2 likes@Trish Gonzalez Actually it wouldn't have, because that was already implied. All it does it repeat the punchline, which makes it LESS funny.
2 likesCommon misconception cops can lie
1 likeHow about a Butterfinger🤣🤣🤣, I like Jeff
0 likesJeff talks like nate diaz if anyone follows mma will get this 😂
0 likesSo did he get out or get charged.
0 likesIf the cops don’t have proof. They don’t care about talking to you.
0 likes"He said he would talk for a coke and a butterfinger" kills me
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@Simon Thomas 😂😂😂
4 likes@Simon Thomas - lmfao. Exactly.
1 likeHe probably would've just asked for Methadone next and told them that he wouldn't talk unless he got some.
6 likesLol funny
0 likes@Simon Thomas?? Plz explain
1 like@bait what is there to explain
0 likes@Almighty Chris what's a butterringer? Sorry but we don't have anything like that here
2 likes@bait He made a typo comrade, he meant butterfinger
2 likes@bait it's a popular candy in America
1 like@iamupinacloud Doesn't matter, he doesn't have to say anything to them even if he agrees to for favors.
2 likes@bait its a nasty chocolate no one eats
0 likes@Ashley Clayton True, true 👍
0 likesWam bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell
0 likesAndrew Schultz had a weird gig before this interrogation.
0 likesI've never heard of Jeff before but how did this interrogation even become public? Like I don't understand why and how this interrogation was released to the public, news and YouTube? It's not like it's a murder case or he was accused of some high profile crime, it's just an armed robbery and by the sounds of things the cops had no evidence on him if he was released 12 hours later. Sounds like he could have just been at the wrong place at the wrong time if he was hanging out at a buddy's house. Cops swarm the area looking for an armed robbery suspect, he comes outside with his buddy they run his name, see he has a record and bring him in and try and get a confession
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Because this video is being used for training purposes
0 likes3:50
0 likesKid: Hee hee, Santa's funny.
How come it's not mentioned that Jeff asked for a lawyer numerous times, yet was never provided a lawyer. When you ask for a lawyer, the interview stops until you get a lawyer. Police don't get to stop the interview and throw you back into a cell when you ask for a lawyer, just to interview you again a couple hours later, without a lawyer. A cell is not a timeout, in hopes that the suspect forgets that he already asked for a lawyer.
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No the police cab still continue the interrogation even after a lawyer is asked for
58 likes@Sonnig85 They can, but then everything they get gets tossed in court
331 likesTo clarify, he's in holding because he IS being charged. The reason for the multiple interviews is because Jeff kept saying he would talk if he gets a coke and candy. So they bring him back up there for the interview. Jeff of course gives them nothing after he gets his coke. Try to keep up
298 likes@Michael P smart guy, well at least clever. Smart and heroin doesn’t match up in my brain but I don’t get a skeevery vibe from the dude. Hope his life turns around honestly/;
31 likesbecause he never "invoked" his rights. Wanting a lawyer is very different than actively invoking your right to one. They're very serious when they say "anything you say, can and will be used against you"
26 likesLee Wisda that's hair splitting only that would be shot down in court. You're asking arrested people to use narrow legalese or it doesn't count. Asking for a lawyer IS the same as "invoking the right to one". Christ the ACLU would tear a new asshole into any DA or cop trying that shady excuse.
102 likes@Lee Wisda the semantics of meaning is the same, objection denied.
33 likes@Hyra Elle https://www.pittsburghcriminalattorney.com/when-and-how-to-invoke-your-right-to-silence-and-an-attorney/ Semantics matter more than you think...i want to agree with you, but what do you think "anything, can and will be used against you" means.. it means they'll use your own semantics against you. wanting something is very different than actively asserting your legal protected right to something. I can say I want to eat a burger, but that doesn't mean I will order a burger at the resturant I'm at. I can say I want a million dollars. That doesn't mean I will get a milllion dollars. I can say I want an attorney. That doesn't mean I'll actually get an attourney. INVOKING your rights is undeniably applying your constitutionally protected rights. Do your own researach
11 likes@Jame Retief I want to agree with you so badly, but unfortuanately there's a lot more evidence of the contrary... do your own research into the difference of asking for a lawyer vs actively invoking
8 likes@Hyra Elle just because you say "objection denied" doesn't make you right. do your own reasearch. I say all of this because its a genuine fear. what do you think they mean when they say "anything you say can and will be used against you." Cases are won and lost over semantics. I promise you wanting something is not the same thing as actively invoking your legally protected rights, and they will absolutely use that against you if they think your guilty and they're trying to coaxe a confession out of you.
5 likes@Hyra Elle the link i gave you is one of hundreds saying the same thing... invoke invoke invoke invoke invoke. not want. INVOKE!
1 like@Jame Retief https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-rights/invoking-the-right-to-remain-silent.html
4 likesreasonable officers will hear " i want a lawyer" and respond accordingly, but what if they're not reasonable.... what if they're convinced you're guilty and will do anythig to coax a confession out of you. what do you think "anything you say can and will be used against you". when you say you're invoking there is undeniably no turn around or "wiggle room" as they say. its the terrifying truth that they don't have your best interest at heart when they're interrogating you. semantics 1000% matter in the court of law. hair splitting terminology matters.
Lee Wisda so let me know the exact wording ti get a lawyer. Because if you want a lawyer the officer must tell you to use the words invoke asking for one is not enough. I looked it up and you are correct and that is a scummy trick if the police do not carefully tell them the wording to use. In spirit it violates Miranda and lowers my respect for cops that don't explain it to suspects that are absolutely unaware of the distinction. Why is that not specifically pointed out on the Miranda rights?
24 likesLee Wisda unless it is to use the toilet, ask for a drink or food, or your prescribed meds keep your mouth shut and don't sign a damn thing until you lawyer advises you to. They're just trying to clear a case, they don't give a damn if you innocent they just want a clear rate on their job evaluation. This doesn't go for all police, just a vast majority because of the pressure from above. Take a page from Jeff's book and remember a few hours later he walked, if he had talked it would have been a couple of decades later if he was lucky.
11 likes@Jame Retief yes yes yes yes yes ! they'll hit you with the, "if you're innocent you have nothing to hide why do you need a lawyer? only guilty people need a lawyer" yeah fuck that, bye 100 times over. Don't talk to cops if they're reading you your miranda rights because after you agree to understanding your rights every single thing in that interview will be used against you if they can. If you don't verbalize your agreement to the miranda rights, or even sign it they can't interview you. ironically its an example from a fictionary film, but in 21st jump street they have to let go someone they arrested because they didn't read him his miranda rights. also look into the histroy of miranda rights and why they're even called miranda rights. when jeff said "put me back in my cell" it was a clear direct way of ending the interview. I promise you if he had said "i want to be put back in my cell" they would have ignored him for the same reason they didn't get him a lawyer when he said he wanted one.
4 likesLee Wisda I'm not in the least mad at you and am grateful you pointed this crap out to me. If I'm ever arrested I'll remember this. I also plan to tell,all my family and friends. Thanks and if I ever run into you I owe you a coke.....and a Butterfinger 😎
12 likes@Jame Retief My genuine pleasure! I feel a lot of passion about it because its easy to say stay out of trouble, dont do things that will get you arrested yada yada, but you never know... wrongful convictions happen all the time..
3 likesalso, that fuckin butterfinger omg haha. eat one for jeff, for me, will ya?
Asking for a lawyer is not the same as invoking your fifth amendment right. Most people should ask for a lawyer then shut up. Invoking your fifth amendment rights - despite what we are told - can be used by the police as justification for arresting you or getting a search warrant - so in many cases it's better just to say "I need a lawyer" and then shut up.
4 likesThere was a case where a suspect "asked for a lawyer" - so the cop left and a well dressed detective came in sat, and said nothing. The suspect presumed the well dressed detective was a lawyer appointed for him - so he spilled his guts. His conviction was upheld in court.
@Lee Wisda Lee, both of your sources back up what we're telling you about your hair-splitting semantics. They both say that saying "I want a lawyer" is the same as invoking your right to a lawyer. The kind of conjectural semantic hair-splitting you're doing isn't insightful or intelligent. It's just you being silly and acting grandiose.
8 likes@Reheat The Pasta look at the top comment!
1 like@kiai found the guys channel and my stance is the same. Hope for good things for the guy
0 likes@Reheat The Pasta People who have been “successfully” on heroin for years are usually extremely smart! It’s a cruel world where the less smart and resourceful either end up in jail or dead!
3 likesTrust me, I know this from personal experiences with addicts.
@SaraG what makes you think cops have your best interest at heart? especially when they think you're guilty and trying to coax a confession out of you. they're leagally allowed to lie to you...
0 likesI think he got himself into the interrogation room a few times more in order to get a coke, as he states in the video
1 like"Real life is not like TV." This was told to a friend of mine who was in jail arrested for cannabis for which she had a legal prescription when she asked to make a phone call and was denied. This happened in Oakland California btw.
5 likesThey can sign something saying they waive a lawyer, even after they request one, right? I've seem them offer that a bunch of times before
0 likesMan you been watching a lot of tv haven’t you
0 likesAlex Hale, employee of ATR
0 likes@Lee Wisda bc
0 likeshe was using them for sweets because it helps with heroin withdrawals so he kept waving his right for a lawyer and them giving them nothing. he was playing them.
4 likes@Lee Wisda you’re wrong. I work @ Preti, Flaherty, in the Portland office(rather than Augusta). I’m not an attorney, but a paralegal/notary/A. Brokers lic.(for real estate purposes; deeds, zoning etc.) & I just spoke to 3 attys after a deposition re:this. It’s laughable. You don’t have to say ‘invoke ‘, & btw, if you did have to- ya know that EVERY 2 bit criminal, thug, delinquent, drug dealer or user would KNOW that! Thes3 are people who have been bounced through the judicial process repeatedly. Nee, it’d be common knowledge. Jeff just kept changing his mind & telling em he’d talk(for Coke, Butterfinger..). He was playing em like a fiddle. He just wanted outta the cell, get a soda & maybe see what he could figure out from them. But soon as it came to really divulging anything, he shut his mouth, said he wanted lawyer & told them to take him back to his cell. Stop arguing this, really. You’re digging a moronic hole & speaking on a subject 3 attys just refuted instantly. Every one of them, & one alooked at me with raised eyebrows and started saying “what’s the joke? Gimme the punchline”, because he thought it was such a ludicrous question. Walt said, “.watch any true crime program on television and you can see that there’s no legislation on what vocabulary is used. Don’t even have to ask for atty, just say you’re done talking. Ends the interview.” Ya can see in this where the first cop says “I’m handcuffed now, ya asked for a lawyer “. Don’t try & be interpretive about something you saw or read, just get it from the horses mouth- ask an attorney, a judge, or just see how it’s functioning in the real world. You ever see a case where they say “well he asked for a lawyer, said he didn’t wanna talk, but he didn’t say INVOKE, so we got him!”?!! They’d be laughed out of the courtroom & drummed out of their job.
3 likesJeff has to initiate the conversation each time by telling the detectives he will talk. That's why there are several attempts to interrogate him with each time having his miranda rights read.
2 likesAs a criminal with over 30 years experience in various prisons, i can add that I've never heard of someone having to use the word "invoke". I think i would have heard of it. Hell, i was a law library clerk for over 3 years...
1 like@bul166 because you asked lawyers... not cops.... I will never trust cops to respect my rights fully... ACAB. Full stop.
0 likes@bul166 lmao "watch any true crime program"
1 likeBecause cops are shady
0 likesI'm going to speak to the heroine heroine use vs intelligence thing : I've personally NEVER touched it, but I I have known multiple people who were addicted to it. All of them were smart people and all of them had "good" teeth. We tend to view junkies how Hollywood portrays them, and I'm sure that there are some who would be like that, but none of the ones I knew were. Only one went from pain meds to heroine. Some I knew prior to their use, some after they got clean and some during.. ALL of them would have been deemed above average intelligence I. Q. Score wise. What I know is that in most cases they were trying to cope with pain, mental pain, not physical except for the one that was on pain meds first. Believe it or not but the world is not easy for smart people to deal with. You'd think there would be an advantage, but that ISN'T the case. Ask the smartest person you know if they have to dumb down for other people. It's also a misconception that money and intelligence go hand in hand. You can have an I. Q. Close to 200 but if you have no money you'll find it difficult to make money. (yes, I do actually know some one that topped out the Iq chart and he's dirt poor, not a heroine user to my knowledge) it seems to be that they got hooked because of the escape it provided.
1 like"How come it's not mentioned that Jeff asked for a lawyer numerous times, yet was never provided a lawyer"
0 likesHow come most young people fuck up at the most basic of things, like ending questions with a question mark? :o
That's only on tv
0 likes@BlackWallStreet While there are no specific words required to invoke, the Supreme Court has held that an invocation is sufficient so long as "a reasonable police officer, in the circumstances, would understand the statement to be a request for an attorney." REASONABLE POLICE OFFICER since when tf are officers reasonable?? they can and will happily say well he said he wanted a lawyer but then he started confessing so how am I suppose to know what he really wanted?? what part about ACAB do you not understand. I would never under any circumstances trust a cop to fully respect my rights unless i used unrefutable language. Yes you don't have to specifically say invoke but it is the surest way to ensure your rights legally have to be respected. but I highly advise against say "I want..." becuase it is not the same thing as "get me a lawyer now" or "I won't talk until I see my lawyer" . It's your life do whatever you want, but this is my truth and every single link I read about it says the same thing about reasonable police officers and that's fucking comical here in the US. I don't trust cops, and never will
1 like@BlackWallStreet i refuse to give my energy to people who have to add insults in order to add strength to their statements
1 likeup quite well. I don't know if the info is true but Jeff did turn his life around
0 likesHe got clean and he is doing something with music ( producing or something like that)
@Michael P exactly! The same as why is Jeff asking for Coke and candy and not for water and sandwich 😉
0 likes@Lee Wisda thanks for that link. I've never had problems with police but it's good to know these things just in case I might need them one day.
0 likes@Lee Wisda yes sir you are absolutely correct you must invoke your right to an attorney and you must invoke your right to remain silent they can still talk in front of you and ask questions to each other hoping you'll answer or maybe see how you react to them "reviewing the case notes" so we are "on the same page " as the investigating officers, we have to be able to "corroborate", Your Honor. We were not talking to the defendant, we were talking to each other. This is for anyone who think they can help LEOs by answering questions! ***VERY IMPORTANT! - In the US, police are allowed to testify by stating "hear say" as facts. Yes, you heard that right! Police can get on the stand & swear an oath that what someone else told the officer is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. But it has to be a "truth" that points toward your guilt. IF THE OFFICER STATS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED TO POINT TOWARDS YOUR INNOCENTS, IT IS NOT ALLOWED & MUST BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD AND DISREGARDED BY THE JURY!!!! Making a statement to LEOs without an attorney can only be used to hurt you! It cannot & will not be used to help you!!! If that doesn't make you see why talking to police is a bad idea, then nothing will!
1 like@Picture me trollin cops are hella shady and all they care about are convictions, they don't care if you're guilty or not. i really don't get what people don't understand about "*anything you say can and will be used against you" they mean anything, including semantics. Wanting something is not the same thing as asserting your constitutionally protected rights.
1 like@Lee Wisda my statement, if necessary. "Excuse me officer, I will have to invoke my right to counsel and will be unable to give a statement or answer any questions until I can contact my attorney. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. I will give you a full statement and cooperate fully as soon as possible. Thank you for your understanding in this matter." Then I prepare to go to jail. lol
2 likeshes raising money to sue them his link is on his yt account that people posted in the other highly upvoted comments
1 like@Lee Wisda Had he said “I️ THINK I️ want a lawyer” or even “MAYBE I should get a lawyer” you’d be correct. The interrogation can continue, because THINKING you want to ask for a lawyer, or saying you MAYBE should get one doesn’t count as invoking, as it’s merely a hypothetical. However if you say the words “I️ want a lawyer” that is instantly invoking your right to council. You don’t have to say the words verbatim “I️ would like to invoke my right to council.” And even AFTER invoking said right, the police can still talk AT you, they just can’t use any response you give in court.
0 likesIn this case he’d invoke, they’d take him back to his cell, he’d waive his right to council so they’d bring him back in for an interrogation and he could get soda or candy, just to invoke again. Rinse and repeat. You can waive your right to council and re-invoke as many times as you’d like.
Personally I️ like him for this ingenuity, that’s why the term “antihero” is explained. He was smart, he used his rights to his advantage without ever divulging any evidence, and subsequently was released from jail because of it. But he DID invoke by saying “I️ want a lawyer” and he DID continue being brought in for waiving said right. I️ trust police as far as I️ can throw them, and I’m severely physically disabled. I️ couldn’t throw a dumbbell over 70lbs.
But everything about this was by the books.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 He WAS an addict in withdrawal, hence why he asked for methadone, yet refused to SPEAK let alone sign anything.
0 likesI️ hate the entire police force, please don’t get me wrong here.
But they continued to put him in his cell as soon as he asked for representation, and subsequently brought him back out into interrogation when he waived his right to council in order to get soda or a candy bar, just to invoke his rights (which is entirely within his power) once again.
In this particular case the police followed procedure completely, which is why he was released from jail and never put into the prison system for this charge, or even tried for his suspected crime.
He outsmarted all of them, and in a way I respect him for that.
However even with that being said, armed robbery specifically certainly isn’t a victimless crime, and I’m sure the victims involved (y’know, the innocent people with guns pointed in their face that likely thought they’d be killed that night) DO deserve justice.
Does he deserve life in prison? Absolutely not. But let’s say police had the right person, he should have served some hard time for putting innocent people through such a traumatic experience.
On the other hand, clearly they didn’t have sufficient evidence to continue holding him, so it’s quite possible he wasn’t the one to commit the robberies. We don’t know.
@Michael P cop got played by Jeff😂. He got his coke&butter finger and didn't give any info that the cop was hoping to get. 😂😂
0 likesHe looks like Christian Bale from the Machinist
0 likes@Michael P man no need to be so rude about it yo
0 likesI’ve read about this in a forensic justice course I took once. It’s well within their rights to skirt around somebody saying that by dropping the interview at that time and then later asking to speak with the suspect again. It won’t get thrown out in court. It’s the suspects responsibility to say “I want a lawyer” any time they are about to be questioned. Just one of those things where there’s more “bend” in real-life scenarios than one may expect reading the letter of the law
0 likesThey probably kept interrogating because he was coming down from heroin and his attorney could use his impairment as a defense. I'm sure the prosecution wants him to make his statement as clear headed in order to make a solid case against him.
0 likesHis interrogation clip should be made into a Coca-Cola ad.
0 likes9:57-10:01
2 likesi heard he is working for the biden admin now
0 likeswham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell
0 likesHe reads him his right to remain silent and then they're surprised that he's ... Silent 😂
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Often times remaining silent when asked if they understand is a sign they are guilty, especially if not trying to deny what they did. Which is surprising in itself he would give himself up that easy 😂
27 likesJay but it shouldn’t be taken as a sign that they are guilty. It should be taken as they do not want to accidentally incriminate themselves, and would rather consult with a lawyer. You can’t read somebody their rights and then not expect them to take advantage of them😂
144 likesYeahhhhh......
1 likeThat took me OUT lol
2 likes@Jay "remaining silent when asked if they understand is a sign they are guilty," in the UK it does, in the Unite States of America it does NOT. You have a right to remain silent and that means it, as it should be you need evidence, a justice system based on shitty kafka-traps liberates criminals and imprisons the innocent.
40 likesI love how English Judges instruct jurors in trials "the defendant has a right to remain silent... but if they are silent you can use that to find them guilty" it's utter gobshite, if you're punished for exercising a right then no such right exists. It's like saying you have a right to vote but if you vote I'll arrest you just because you voted.
When the law was changed to allow such a violation of rights there were protests and riots but as the Labour party was in agreement with the Tory party on denying this right then it was pushed through despite it not being what was wanted by everyone else.
I think youre all missing the point. He can remain silent after admitting he understands his rights. He sstaying silent so that in court he can try and argue that they interogated him without him understanding his rights. Thats why they wont proceed until he acknowledges that he understands
22 likes@Jay thats exactly what they want you to think. People think that they are smart and beleive that they have to talk and give a statement. Since u refused your right to remain silent every thing you say is going to only incriminate your self becouse a statement isint for you its not to help u. When questioned and ask if you are willing to talk and give them a statement its becouse its only in there best interest that you do they aren't asking you to talk to help u its to help them every thing you say will only be misquoted and used against u late. Just u gotta look at it from a different angle or look at it from outside the box ok you have already been placed under arrest and are going to jail regardless and people think they have the ultimate story and once they explained it all out the detectives are gonna. Say will golly gee why diddnt you tell us that from the beginning come here and let me take those hand cuffs off and then apologize to you for the inconvenience before giving u a ride home .. So Jay i hope my points and views. Have helped you see the blunders of how they want you to think .
4 likeshe did have the right to to remain silent 🤣😂
1 like@Treblaine Sorry, but I'm a crmj major in the USA. I understand what I'm talking about, and even with the right to remain silence, anyone who is not guilty would speak up, its basic psychology, which I needed for my degree. :))
0 likes@Jay You don't understand the 5th Amendment.
13 likes@Jay no wonder someone studying to work with the cops would have this interpretation of remaining silent, it's the same one cops seem to have. But your right to remain silent is something you should use whether guilty or not. Cops are trying to convict someone, and if they are arresting you that means they are trying to convict you. Anything you say could potentially be used against you, so it's sensible not to say anything at all. If you have a story that will exonerate you, good, keep it to yourself until you have consulted with an attorney and they are present. Until then it's only logical to stay silent and ask for a lawyer.
11 likes@Jay oghs jay you seem intelligent.. but.. your soo wrong in that statement.. silence is not a admission of guilt at all.. as seen here in this vid, it is merely a usage of ones rights.. and knowing that you are being set up / have the situation set against you .. in an unfair way.. silence is often a tool of the smart and .. dodged survivalist.. who knows the lay of the land.. as any good hunter / woodsman knows.. or as I said.. survivalist.. don't be so ignorant and judgmental and naive please .. there are whole doctrines of thought out there that are soo contritictive to what you posted..
5 likes@desperate dave Tell that to my degree?
0 likes@Jay coughs a paper degree can .. be very misinformed of the real world. I was a detention officer for a year in a bad county jail.. doing everything from booking to feeding the jail of 300+ solo to being the court officer 3 days a week.. to doing visitations .. to dealing with violent disturbances.. I bet your degree hasn't taught you half of 6 months doing that job taught me... just saying.. but im sure .. you "know" what you think you "know" but understand .. there are always angles you haven't seen and don't have a clue about.. this is true for all peoples.. be well Jay
4 likes@desperate dave Thats cool! You also dont know me, what ive been through with court and the law, and what my current job is! Dont assume you know my whole life!
0 likes@Stoner gamer exactly
3 likes@Jay lol. I'm 😇 innocent of any and all criminal activity. If I end up in police custody I am not going to say anything without a lawyer.
2 likesBeing silent is seen as guilty because, why not talk if you’re innocent. The same with seeking a lawyer while talking to cops. Ether way they are seen as defensive and will lead them to believe you are guilty. If you are telling the truth or didn’t do anything wrong you shouldn’t have a problem talking to the cops. Just don’t let them intimidate you because intimidation leads to fear and when you’re scared you seek a way to get out of the situation. This could lead to you accidentally incriminating yourself just because you’re going along and agreeing with everything just to get it done and over with.
0 likes@Jay why dont you tell it to any # of the shows presently on tv, netflix, hulu, etc...where each episode is about someone wrongfully convicted by police. Many of which involve gross misconduct by the police and DA. Your views of the world where the police are always the "good guys" is either childish or stupid...not sure which one.
4 likes@Stoner gamer wow gee thanks mr fat doinks, 11/10 genius
0 likesPizza Party doesn’t matter what they believe in at the end of the day. Nobody cares if the cop knows you’re guilty. What matters is what that judge says, and if you keep your mouth shut there’s not much evidence for the judge to find you guilty lol. Who cares if the cop “believes you’re guilty” silence in these situations guilty or not is always best
2 likesJay after all that arguing with people and bragging about ur MaJoR that’s what you have to say lol. But thanks for calling me a genius it’s more of just having common sense 😬 you could learn a thing or 2 about that.
3 likes@Jay Too bad you didn't need goddam English grammar for your degree "Right to remain SILENT" for fuck's sake not even adjectives are safe from butchering nowadays?
3 likesBtw if that is what they teach you in criminal JUSTICE I don't think other words are needed to comment on the state of the legal system in the US...
@MrSwosh89 funny that im a double major in english xoxo kiddo
0 likes@MrSwosh89 ok mad boi
0 likesStay pressed doe
0 likesHey guys whatever u guys say and whatever knowledge and life experience you have dont matter coz i have a paper telling me i am the law and the world centers around me. If you dare to try to correct me i will tell you have a degree on it so i automatically win! My logic beats all yallllll
3 likes@Pluto stay pressed bby xoxo
0 likes@Pluto whats a snowflake?
0 likes@Jay peanutbutterlolipoplicious
0 likes@Jay Even if you're innocent it's stupid to say anything. The police are not there to prove your innocence and regardless of what the court says, once in custody the police believe that you're guilty until proven innocent.
2 likesJay bruh the amount of times innocent people have confessed to a crime they didn’t commit after being interrogated for hours is unreal. if i were innocent, i would still remain silent and ask for a lawyer. the pigs can and will twist anything you say during the interrogation (it puts SO MUCH STRESS on a person, which allows the cops to make you question everything you say. it is absolutely disgusting) and use your own words against you. it’s just basic knowledge. so anyway, fuck 12, acab, and sign petitions.
1 like@Jay Have you taken a glance at the videos I've linked you?
0 likesI'd honestly like to know what's your take on those
jeff moment
0 likesOpiate withdrawal is such a bitch. Cold sweats, restlessness like you can’t believe, body aches, you cant sleep, sometimes you hear shit. I can’t bring myself to stop using because of it. It’s too hard. I don’t know how this Jeff dude got through all of us this but it reminds me that addicts are fucking strong when we have to be. This dude rocks.
0 likesCoke is a hell of a drug...
0 likesAy i see guts in that antihero presentation
0 likesI thought I was angry that they didn’t get Jeff a lawyer, but then I was REAL angry that he didn’t get him the Butterfinger. He asked nicely.
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It's weird cause I just ate a Butterfinger lol
4 likes@Rose Redmayne that's probably why you got reccomended this video
0 likesany other videos like this?
0 likeslol the detective , you wanna coke?? lol dyin
0 likesHe asked for a lawyer..that's funny...
0 likesHe reminds me of Bubbles from The Wire.
0 likesCop: We have a lot of evidence against you
2735 likesJeff: Like what
Cop: I-
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They always use that bs. I am from the UK and have a bit of a criminal record. I was once arrested under suspicion of criminal damage because the damage caused was similar to a crime I had committed before. I knew I was innocent but during the interview the officer said, "we are building a strong case against you". I replied, "in that case, why are you interviewing me? Just charge me now and don't pretend you're here to help me because you're only interested in conviction numbers." I said nothing else for the entire interview
195 likesThe cop: wait thats cheating
86 likesShane Sawyer Why is it you’ve chosen to be a criminal may I ask? Don’t often get the chance to talk to someone with a record
5 likes@AnObviousMjolnir I never really "chose to become a criminal". I was going through a rough patch after leaving school. I'd been severely depressed and had no future at the time. I committed a number of crimes over a 5 year period. I was arrested around 30-40 times, appeared in court 10 times, had numerous probation meetings, completed over 100 hours of community service and did a few months in prison
36 likesShane Sawyer ye sorry probably should have worded it better but I’m not the best with semantics at sometimes. Being on a binge of murderer videos probably didn’t put me in the most sensitive/caring mindset but I honestly didn’t mean it in a judgey way, was just a quick comment without much thought in. Thanks for still choosing to answer though, I was curious about the psychology and circumstances that leads to the point where people end up on the wrong side of the law. I hope life is better for you now
23 likes@AnObviousMjolnir no offence taken. I'm doing great now, thanks for asking
38 likes@Generic Human best tactic is to talk like fuck until they caution you and then no comment. I once got driven from Lancashire to wiltshire by dectetives chatting all the way for 4 hours and shut up in interview
6 likes@Generic Human Actually if you were arrested then you were in fact already charged with the crime you were arrested for. Saying "charge me now" wouldn't really make any sense for as long as you remain incarcerated you remain under charges. Only when they decide to drop charges are you let go. I recommend educating yourself on the subject before committing any other crimes or comments.
2 likes@AnObviousMjolnir There was no need to apologize as what you said to Shane was in fact correct. Shane chose to commit all those crimes, so yes he did in fact choose to become a criminal. Shane is obviously shortsighted though as is apparent in his comments, which may be the leading factor in his arrest history. However sugarcoating your wording, and allowing Shane to continue denying obvious truths won't benefit either of you IMO. Just saying..
2 likes@Rick the Swift He literally said he's gotten his life under control already, so putting in that petty ending comment really makes you sound like a jerk.
16 likesAlso by taking in someone for questioning the police can't actually officially arrest you unless they have enough evidence to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you did indeed commit the crime. Questioning is typically used to try and extract more information on a case, analyze the suspect's behavior in order to determine a psychological profile as well as if anything they're saying might be legitimate, and to potentially extract a confession for the crime they are suspected of. In this circumstance, he made it apparent that the crime committed was similar to one he'd committed before, but he was indeed innocent and had nothing to do with it. So he gave them little to no information, that way nothing he said could be taken as a confession and used against him when the person who actually committed the crime was yet to be found. He knew that he was innocent and being familiar with the system, he knew that they would try to use the 'we have enough evidence' tactic to try and extract a confession early on. It's a method that is often used on suspects that investigators are heavily suspicious of being guilty but may not necessarily have the evidence to prove it yet.
Perhaps you should kindly educate yourself before deciding to leave a pretentious-sounding comment directed toward someone who has already stated that they have been through the system enough to understand what happens in an investigation. It would make you look a lot less like a jerk. Just saying. :)
@Rosario BY " by taking in someone for questioning the police can't actually officially arrest you unless they have enough evidence to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you did indeed commit the crime.. " Please, are you really trying to say our man Jeff wasn't arrested? Did you not see the handcuffs?? The prison garbs?? Him expressing his wishes to be detained in his "cell"?? What exactly do think being arrested entails??
2 likesI'm sorry if I sounded like a jerk, but you must realize the absurdity that you and so many of his other defenders are proposing!
@Generic Human I also have a criminal record: 'i shot the sheriff", "smooth Criminal", "gypsies, tramps and thieves" "I fought the law".
0 likesSorry .. 😁
@Rick the Swift you seem like a hate filled individual so I will not argue with you, but instead leave this one comment. I was taken to a police station, under arrest on suspicion of the offence. I was then interviewed, as stated in my comment. The CPS are then handed the information collected by the police and decide if there is enough to charge someone. There was not enough evidence and I was therefore bailed for 3 weeks. I attended the police station 3 weeks later and they told me that I was not being charged.
16 likesThey bought me in under suspicion because the act of criminal damage was almost identical to a previous offence.
I also do not appreciate your lecture. My mental health was at its lowest point during that time. Most of my offences lead to no harm, physically or mentally, to other people. 90% of my arrests were for being drunk and disorderly, public order offences and carrying weapons that I used to self harm. I don't blame anyone but myself for what I did and your comments just show your holier than thou attitude. During my time in prison, I quickly learned that almost all petty crime was being committed by people who were mentally ill or addicted to alcohol or drugs. This is no excuse but how about showing some kindness and understanding. Maybe that way we can actually work towards preventing crime, instead of punishing people after the fact
@No One thanks for the kind words. I usually just ignore negative people but couldn't let this one go. Some people are so ignorant when it comes to the mindset of criminals. They seem to think every person that commits a crime is just a horrible person with a lack of morals.
5 likesIt's nice to have some positivity and respect in these comments too. A few people like yourself have been very kind
@Generic Human Good luck mate. I'm glad you're doing better. I hope things continue in that vain.
2 likes@Generic Human Call me ignorant if you like, I won't argue either, but know this- all those crimes you committed didn't choose you, it was you who chose to commit to them. I'm glad you feel you've learned a thing or two about the system and how to stay out of it, and glad to hear that you also feel you are now doing great, but that doesn't negate the fact that you continue to paint yourself as a victim of circumstance, rather than owning up to the fact that you chose to commit the crimes you did.
0 likesLike you, I'm capable of having all of the emotions contained within the human condition and yes "hate" may rear its ugly head from time to time, even though I don't believe this is one of those times. And like you as well, I've committed many crimes, sins, and transgressions against more than just my fellow humans. But unlike you, I'm perfectly aware those were choices I made, which I am deeply sorry for, and they weren't just due to the circumstances of my mental state, my family problems or whatever other excuse you may try to think of. Blatantly ignoring my own responsibility for the damage I've caused to others would be a kin to me blaming society for the shitty way you and others may feel I've spoken to you. If you feel I've been shitty and hateful towards you, I truly apologize and hope you can accept it- those were not my intentions.
I hope that makes some sense, and I also wish you a bountiful journey on your own path of self-correction and raising awareness. :)
@Rick the Swift I wish you luck on this life. However it pans out
1 likeThis is the proof: kids start of with Coke and end up a junky!
1 like@Rick the Swift Surely you must realize that I wasn't referring to Jeff, but the man who left a comment here previously.
2 likesBeing held for questioning can actually sometimes entail handcuffs and actually being held in a cell (especially if it's someone who's been arrested for previous offenses.) However, unless they are proven guilty of what they're being accused or questioned about and there is sufficient evidence to hold them for trial, the police are required to release them.
In Jeff's case, it is implied that there might actually be more evidence to incarcerate him, not to mention there may have been other offenses that weren't being brought up. The man that was leaving a comment about his experiences stated that he hadn't committed the crime and was later released when they couldn't get anything out of him. Why? Because although he was suspected, there was NO EVIDENCE to hold him for actual arrest. Cops can take you in for questioning with handcuffs, find no evidence or information from you and then release you, because if there is no evidence and no confession to lead to said evidence, then it is illegal to officially arrest and detain you.
@Rosario BY I appreciate your reply as I'd realized shortly after making my comment that I'd misunderstood whom you were speaking of, but was unable to retrieve the original link to recant my retort. I am clear now in understanding you were referring to Shane Sawyer's comment, and not to the video's content or the main character (Jeff)within. However, I would still point out that you are wrong when you say people (at least in the United States of America)can be taken in "for questioning with handcuffs" without being officially arrested and detained. I thought I'd explained in a previous post that when a police officer in the USA puts handcuffs on you and locks you in a cell, you in fact are officially arrested and detained. What happens after that is the initial charges are then forwarded to higher levels of authority, such as detectives, police chiefs, and prosecutors who make recommendations and final decisions as to whether or not the initial charges "will stick", and/or "be held up in a court of law". I'm doubting you are a lawyer or have proper legal expertise in the U.S. legal system, so will not argue further in the matter, but will instead end with the following:
0 likesPerhaps you were 100% correct that I sounded like a jerk for pointing out Shane's shortsightedness, but perhaps it is you who should also educate yourself regarding the policies and legal nomenclature within the U.S. police precincts before attempting to educate others.
Hope that helps 🙏
@Rosario BY Just because I want to help you understand, please watch the video again. At 0:05 Jeff asks (while in handcuffs), "Am I under arrest?", and the officer replies "Yeah, for now". Also please re-read Shane's original comment where he says, "I was once arrested for suspicion of criminal..."
0 likesSo hopefully you can see that both of these men were in fact arrested and detained.
That cop didn’t have anything😂
1 like@Generic Human i want to work in a prison.. I deal with theives allday. they chose to do their crimes but they have a reason for it. desperation, etc. somencrimes are more serious or less. not every criminal is a bad person. im no better then they are. they know what they did. I want to learn more about how they think becuase I want to be able to work with them
2 likes😂😂😂
0 likes@Generic Human You just have to be willing to stay in a cell for two days. That’s the longest they can keep you. And keep your mouth shut. Ask for a lawyer. They let you go after 24 hours.
0 likesthis guy definitely is not working on the corporate marketing team of Coca Cola LOL
0 likesWham bam thank you for the coke lmao
0 likesWhere is the lawyer he asked for?
0 likesOkay this is kinda funny hahaha😅😆 the only reason why he is there because they give him free coke, he said😆 and then asking for butterfinger the cops promised him😆
0 likesJeff : " playing good cop ? "
11873 likesCop : " nah usually I'm the prick "
Jeff : " you look like a prick "
Me : 💀
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Cognitive Chaos «oh my gosh I just diiiiied omg 🥵😂😂💯 fr so lit 😭»
22 likes😂😂😂
7 likes(video pauses) click “THIS is Jeff, a heroin addict for 14 years...” 😂
62 likesThanks but I can hear
5 likesThe cop was even pretty unprick-like
5 likesHis partner was probably holding in laughter XD
22 likesIt looks like your writing a script being all like
0 likes"Yada yada:
So and so:
Yada yadas son:
Yada yada:"
@Tim cringe
2 likes@Tim gay
2 likesHOOAH
2 likesThe cop walked into that one.
7 likesSavage af
6 likesThat's the line that hooked me! I knew I was watching this video to the end when I heard him say that. I wish Jeff well.
16 likesRenee M Jacquemain You are on the side of the criminals?
1 likeNow that’s what I call savage
3 likesLol
1 likesavage
1 like@J K Jeff was innocent stoops, didn't you watch the video? Now go get that man another coke, he's probably parched by now.
4 likes__ What are you talking about? I said that if you are guilty you should admit it.
0 likes@J K No you didn't. Lol. Better scroll up & edit one of your comments so that last one makes sense.
3 likesWhen does he get his Nobel prize.
0 likesNo question mark because I'm DEAD serious ok.
No question mark because I mean this. Ok?
???????
@H.X T Wtf😂
0 likes🤣🤣😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 door to the face
0 likes😅😅😅😅
0 likesi let out a huge belly laugh at that one
1 likeI did a REAL LOL when he said that!
1 likecringe
1 likeinsert That 70's show BURN! meme
0 likesFr
0 likesWhere is Jeff today? I hope he's doing well
2 likesYes when that happened I too said "Skull emoji.".
0 likes@J K Did you even listen to the narrator? Obviously not. He explains why we root for the "everyman, underdog, antihero.
0 likesOh wait, your one of those people that cherry pick what they want to hear and leave out the rest. Damn it..you probably don't even know what cherry picking is, do you? And no, its not the picking cherries from tree's in this context. SHIT!🤦♀️ I just did it again..i suppose you don't know what context means either.
I give up, nothing to see here..move along folks
Lolol
0 likes😂😂
0 likesI dont get it can anyone explains ?
0 likesKevin Richardson (Backstreet Boys) and JK Simmons will play these guys in the movie.
0 likesKevin Richardson (Backstreet Boys) and JK Simmons will play these guys in the movie.
0 likesWham bam thanks for the Coke put me back in the cell
0 likesnever talk to the police
0 likespolice: "you have the right to remain silent and to an attorney"
2404 likesjeff: "I'm not speaking without a lawyer"
police: "now I-I don't understand that"
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aint nothin wrong with shuttin up
39 likesYea that had me dying. They really wanted him to incriminate himself
64 likes@NSASU It makes their job easier so yea lol
9 likesIts also illegal for the cops to do after states this. These investigators should be fired for denying him his constitutional rights.
15 likesYeah but "that doesn't mean d*ck!" at 13:18 ba-ha-ha
8 likesHa yes!
1 likeMe: “Omfg...”
@George Jones No, it's not. The Supreme Court has ruled that, if you have been informed of your rights, and demonstrate a clear recognition of those rights, and you talk to the police anyway, you have voluntarily waived your rights. To invoke your right to remain silent, you have to be silent. That means not talking. If you want a lawyer present during your interrogation, you can tell the police that you want a lawyer, but they can keep you in the room until your lawyer arrives, and if you say anything to them before that time, that statement is admissible as evidence against you.
2 likesErika Whelan Yeah but they never called a lawyer for this guy, even though he asked like 5 times
2 likesSpeaking of Im without a law yer?
1 like💥
0 likessoooo….Santa is real ?
Inconceivable amount of alcohol? There is no such thing.
0 likesSeems like a pretty mediocre case study to make such a big deal out of but okay.
0 likesThis character is best represented by... Bad Santa... ?
0 likesI am recovering heroin addict and it was the hardest thing I had to kick. It was brutal to come off so I can sympathize with jeff. Btw I am 4 years clean and working as a peer at my local rehab with others struggling with the terrible disease of addiction. And personally proud of Jeff standing up for his rights.
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Damn bro good job!
28 likesHow long does it take until you don't have urges anymore?
4 likesStay clean my friends...as hard as that might be.
9 likes@• 72 years ago Oh and I know because of my bf story who stopped doing heroine because was caught by mother and forced to stop and she didn't give a damn fuck about withdrawal, that was 2 years ago, we still can't talk.
4 likes@• 72 years ago 20 years from now someone clean could see a syringe and get that familiar itch in his stomach.. No one is an ex-addict, just a clean one..
16 likesOpioid addiction is hell
11 likesWhy you tried heroin in the 1st place ?! You did not know it will ruin your life?! I have no sympathy with heroin addicts because it’s your choice so assume it!!
2 likesI suffer severe chronic pain, and I'm sure it would give me an hour or two relief, but the other side is bad. Maybe just a puff of Opium? Lol. It would be nice to have a break, even if a short one. It's something people can't and won't understand. I was once that way too.
1 likeso happy for u man <3
1 like@Salma EL ASMAI you talk the same way to fat people? Forbid them to eat at Macdonads? Its their fault? Your way of looking at people with addiction scares me..
7 likesGood luck man. Hope you doing great.
1 like@Krieg Death Rider euhhh no! Lol who’s the heorin addict who told you that lie?! 😂😂 nono most of them choose it and dont assume it later
0 likes@Laser Panda ok. I couldn’t care less
0 likes@Johnny Suneson ok so you put Macdonalds and Heroin on the same level…lol do your homework
0 likes@Salma EL ASMAI do my homework? you want me to explain it for you? YES.. sugar addiction is on same lvl. Addiction in every form is an illness. Do your own search..
9 likesI only smoke weed cause I ain’t a dummy
2 likes@Laser Panda same
0 likes@Johnny Suneson she is close minded and only sees black and white.
0 likesI'm glad you're recovering, but you better not be one of those uptight anti drug guys now, because the government should have zero control over what I do with my body, all drugs should be legalised, people that can't control their addictions are NOT my problem
1 like@Kalindi Sharma pal, we got a long way to go....
1 likeProud of u!
0 likesI've never been addicted to heroin but ive been an addict to other substances. im nearly 5 years clean, im proud of us both
4 likesLiterally same story here 😆 congrats
2 likesOf course you work at a rehab...
0 likesHell yeah man! Good on you!
1 like@polytrash well said Sir
1 like@Anthony Link congrats man!
0 likesHow did u start if you don’t mind me asking
0 likes@Average Alien uhhhh nahhh man
1 like@Rashad Avery Smoking weed does not make you more intelligent than anyone else. It’s unnecessary, you don’t need it, and I honestly don’t know anyone over 30 who smokes weed and is in good mental health.
2 likes@SID just cause you don’t know them does that mean they don’t exist ?
1 like@Will Fishing yes and?
0 likes@• 72 years ago 37yrs
0 likes@Jeff Campbell 9
0 likesAlso 4 years clean 24 july 2017
0 likes@Kayla Norton I got 4hrs clean
1 likeThe vids are back!
0 likesI like Jeff. Cool guy.
0 likesBruh its like these videos get taken down then go back up, last night i was looking all over for this one.
1 likeWhy are all of your videos suddenly disappearing? I watched 5 or 6 of these last night and now I can’t even find the same ones I watched on your channel…?
0 likesCop: "Tell me about the robbery"
2539 likesJeff: "Sure....I robbed you and your partner of your confidence, dignity and two cokes."
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Rob J - Bahahaha you win my admiration for having the best comment I’ve read on YouTube in a LONG time!
24 likesunderrated comment
10 likesShould be made into a T-Shirt. “The Legend of Jeff; I robbed you of your confidence, dignity, and two cokes!”
19 likes🤣
0 likesYou are loved beyond measure💙
2 likes-Ephesians 3:19
🤣🤣🤣🤣☠ funny asf
0 likesAnd how about that butterfinger. Dude was awesome.
2 likeshats off to rob for real, and jeff tbh
0 likesPure gold
0 likesNice bro
0 likes@Robert Collett gimme a butter finger i'll tell ya where they got Jimmy Hoffa
1 likeGo Jeff.
0 likesno videos for 11 months? We need some more!
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He quit this channel, just left it up for people to watch the old content.
0 likesJeffs a fucking champ
0 likesWam Bam thankyouforthecoke
1 likeput me back in the cell
This is Jeff. Jeff is a heroin addict. Don't be like Jeff.
3839 likesThis is Jeff. Jeff is a genius and gets Coke without paying. Be like Jeff.
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:(
14 likesit doesnt want to tell you what to be you can be like jeff or not you can be a heroin addict or not idk who are they to tell you they are showing the pros and cons
4 likesFree coke?? Count me in
3 likesYessir
1 likeExactly. What was the point of this I just don’t get it.
2 likesOk
1 like@MyNameIsJeff... your name
0 likesFree coke always comes with a downside
0 likesit’s all about perspective my friend
0 likesYeah heroin is gross
0 likesbob
0 likesRyan O you’re.
0 likesThis is Jeff. Jeff is a heroin genius and is addicted to getting Coke without paying. Do not don't be like Jeff.
1 likeDimentiosLoyalest
0 likesHaha 😆
Jeff becomes a heroin addict so he can get free coke😱
0 likesWhat kinda coke?
1 like@Wvde tha Mystic the DNA evidence
0 likessouljha100 Entertainment l think 😂
1 likeJeff has survived heroin addiction for 14 Years, gets free Cokes (but where's the butterfinger?) and either takes the right to remain silent to the most literal degree possible, and even when he does talk - out talks the police (they say they have tons of evidence, and give him none, plus is they have tons of evidence why would they need more?) while telling them nothing ! What I'd like to know is what planet is Jeff really from , he's obviously more than super human !
0 likesWhy are they going through there again that guy requested a a lawyer
0 likesI like jeff. I believe he didnt rob anybody but his BUDDY's prolly did lol while jeff doin his own thing.. u got the violent friends with propensity for violence then their polar opposite jeff.
0 likesThe only reason i came up here was to get a fucking coke 😆🤣 ... Give my dude a coke man!!
0 likesThis is wild!
0 likes“You look like a prick”
2385 likesOfficer goes home and questions his existence
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If only.
9 likes🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
4 likesDude.. funny.. hahaha
4 likesWhat prick mean here ? It doesn't make sense
0 likes@عمر الفرارجة a prick means unhonest person or someone who is very unpleasant
10 likesThe cop tried to gain empathy by telling Jeff he's a prick but jeff knows he's bullshitting
@Mohan Selvaraj oh thank u
2 likes@Mohan Selvaraj why I can't read more your comment? I'm annoyed.
1 like@Theresa Fushiguro what can't you read ?
1 like⚰️
1 likeWhile standing at the Er waiting to be checked in for a mandatory psych hold (suicide stuff) i looked over at the cop with me and said so calmly "your hair looks like shit". He got sheepish brushed it down and said he had been wearing a hat. In reality he waa balding. That shit hurt him and ive never stopped feeling bad about it. He was kind to me at my lowest.
3 likesHe sure got quite, sitting there thinking, "I Hate these Video cameras!". Lol
0 likes@عمر الفرارجة Like the guys that drive BMW's, looks down on others, or thinks they're better than they are.
1 like@Jeff Campbell oh, thank you
0 likesThanks for the Coke.
0 likesEpic.
thanks for the coke 😭
0 likesWithdrawal ain't fun as anyone who knows knows
0 likesI don’t remember being interviewed
0 likesJeff:*sips coke*
4776 likesCop: tastes good?
Jeff: yeah
This is an ad
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I had to get some Coke from the fridge.
38 likesAlex Fehrenbacher i’d buy it.
2 likesI'm craving a Coke now
9 likesAlex Fehrenbacher cop . Is the coke nice .. Jeff ye but I prefer heroin
7 likesHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
0 likesTime stamp that shit
0 likes@Kaizon Williams 11:07
1 like"I need to know where that GUN came from."
0 likes"I don't have... What the FUCK are you talking about?!"
This is like the NC-17 rated independent short film version of a coke ad.
Onley vanilla coke but not millei vannille
0 likesReminds me of the
0 likes"Here, try a snickers"
crunch
"Better?"
"Better."
Yeah, this guy is who Coke wants to be seen with. If Coke was Trump, he'd say 'FAKE NEWS, THAT WAS PEPSI!!!'
0 likesGuys jeff has yt channel called “The legend of jeff”
0 likesJeff is gigachad
1 likeJeff is no hero anti or otherwise
0 likesI wish Jeff my was my Son.
0 likes“AND IM NOT SIGNING ANYTHING!
508 likesThanks for the coke.”
I legitimately burst out into laughter
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Lol me too... hilarious! XD
2 likesJeff ftw
0 likesWhat about the butterfinger you promised? xDDDDDDDDDDDD
0 likesWhat if you keep saying no I don’t understand to the maranda act lol
0 likesHe ask for a lawyer. This Cops should be fire for interrogating a person without proper representation.
1 likeDo we all remember the rules?
2125 likes1. Always go peacefully and don’t argue. No reason to plea your case to the cops
2. Don’t talk to the police. Everything you say to them “can and will be used against you”, it CANNOT help you.
3. “Lawyer” should be the only word you ever say.
4. Tell your lawyer the truth. No reason to lie to them.
5. Follow the rules.
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So deep yet so true
37 likesI don't know about the whole "no reason to pleas your case to the cops" bit. If there's ambiguity in the circumstances of arrest, the way you conduct yourself can definitely play a role in whether they seek to pursue charges back at the station after an interview etc. It plays part of a cumulative effect.
29 likesJames No...Look, the police 9/10 only care about the interrogation in order to get a confession. And that’s how you should see it. If you’re sitting there thinking that they’re there to help you, then you are gravely mistaken. They are trained to beat confessions out of people, they don’t care if you’re innocent or not. Best thing to do is shut your mouth. Any lawyer will tell you the same thing.
159 likesF-35A Lightning II I didn't say I think they're there to help me, I said if there's u uncertainty/ambiguity surrounding the case you've been arrested for, somebody has to make the conscious decision whether to pursue charges. As per the body language analysis in this video, sometimes pleading your case without actually giving anything away, can be the difference between them pursuing those charges or not.
5 likesJames But that doesn’t matter. Let them pursue charges, ok? You have a better chance of saying something stupid then convincing them you’re innocent. Mind you, you’ve ALREADY been arrested. The guys behind the one way glass have already made they’re decision. They just want an interaction like this:
79 likesInterrogator: “Look man, You were driving erratically and I could smell alcohol on you.”
You: “I don’t know what to say, the last time I had a drink was last Sunday.”
Interrogator: “But look at from where I am. Do you see how I could think that? Do you really think I’m going to sit here and lie to you?”
You: “No, but-“
Uh oh, you just indirect admitted to a possibility of you being intoxicated while driving AND that the officer wasn’t lying meaning you also played a role in confessing to erratically driving and smelling of alcohol. This case actually happened, by the way. And it’s an easy mistake to make if you agree to talk to the police. You really don’t get much out of it. This illusion you’re playing on, that you can plead your way out of it, just usually isn’t true. It a gamble and you still might screw it up with some simple slip up. Just shut your mouth, get your phone call, and talk to your lawyer.
F-35A Lightning II can you name/supply the case you're referring to above? I find it highly unlikely that saying "No, but-" when asked by a police offer if you think they're lying, can lead to a "indirect admitting " and conviction.
2 likesJames Not conviction, but you’re sitting here and trying to claim that it’s reliable to talk to the police. They can use that “no, but-“ in court to dismiss a statement about how you definitely weren’t drinking and driving, which just prolongs your proceedings. I’m saying that it’s like playing roulette. Sure, it’s possible you might convince them that you’re innocent, but you’re more likely to dig your hole a little deeper. I’m not saying that it would lead to prison, but by saying no to a question about lying, it implies you believe that they’re telling the truth, which implies you aren’t denying that there was alcohol, which implies you could have been drinking and driving, which definitely isn’t helpful if you’re trying to prove you certainly were drinking and driving. I mean, you’re technically right, right? You COULD talk you’re way out of it, but why try.
25 likesAs for the case, you must bare with me as I do not know the specific name and it is not prevalent enough to simply find on the internet. However, I suggest you read this:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/amendment-5/confessions-police-interrogation-due-process-and-self-incrimination
It gives some background on confessions and self-incrimination. The reason you have your 5th amendment right is BECAUSE of this process the police commit to. Because if you didn’t have it, the police would always make you talk and always try to squeeze it out of you. So, why on Earth would you ever subject yourself to that voluntarily? It’s made to be a malicious system and nothing else. And if you are in an appropriate setting, questioned for a reasonable amount of time, we’re given your Miranda rights, were perfectly able to contact a lawyer, you openly and without prompting answer with an incriminating answer, are of a certain maturity, and are of a healthy physical state, that “no, but-“ counts not necessarily as a confession of guilt, but of uncertainty. And if you weren’t guilty, why hamper your chance by answering to anything at all? Even if you don’t say anything incriminating, of the police do charge you with a crime, you can’t use any part of the interrogation as evidence for your case. It’s essentially a lose-lose situation.
F-35A Lightning II I agree with most the points you make here, but you're definitely putting words in my mouth now. I've never said it's reliable to talk to the police or that I advise of trying to convince them of your innocence. I just said, if there's uncertainty as to whether they believe you're guilty/the evidence suggests you are - how you conduct yourself will definitely play a role in whether they pursue charges/continue an investigation against you. Anyway, have a good day, it was good chatting.
0 likes@James It was good. I did not intend to put words in your mouth, but it seemed to me as if you were suggesting to talk to police as a means to prove your innocence, which is not at all where you should be doing that.
13 likesZak Griffiths No, actually they are legally required not to. Look up attorney-client privilege, dude. You’re lawyer is legally bound not to reveal anything you tell to them in private, even if it’s a confession to a crime. Unless you give them instruction to disclose information, they can’t say anything.
6 likesIn the case of sorella she didn't talk but when the cop showed her the pictures of her muredered daughters and she didn'react or talk .. that was used against her in court
5 likesHow about just not break the law and live an honest life? That would be the better option
4 likesPerson Incognito You can still get arrested/charged/convicted of crimes...
16 likesYour lawyer should not ask you anything at start.. He should just say dont say anything!! If your lawyer first meets you and ask if you did it hes not a good one
3 likes@Person Incognito well, Consider his user name...
13 likesI was working a pot grow that was raided by the police and was arrested for it 5 years later. the fed who was driving me to jail asked how long did I have that grow? I replied I don't know what you're talking about. In court the bitch prosecutor told the judge I had so many pot grows that I didn't know which one he was asking about. Obviously not what I said, but I learned you can't say a single word to pigs because they'll change it to mean anything they want.
13 likes@Brady Neal I'm learning that all you say is "I want to speak to a lawyer". That's it. Doesn't matter what has happened.
9 likes@Dáithi O'Cinnsealach agreed!
2 likesAlso make sure you hire a lawyer who cool with your judge lol
2 likes6. Let them serve you a coke
5 likesTeach your children well.
0 likesYou have to remember cops only have a high school diploma at most. I would definitely speak to those degenerates, please my case and they'd be too confused not to let me go.
3 likesPoor murderer could have got away with murder if it wasn't for those pesky police, boo hoo!
1 like@James this your opinion based on personal experience?
0 likesGood job Jeff... never talk to the police
1 likeExcellent advice.
2 likesEven if your not guilty!
0 likes@James this video mentions the butterfly effect and there is a 50 minute lecture here on youtube called "never talk to the cops" where they go in to great detail how even a 100% honest and innocent statement that doesn't in anyway incriminate you, can be used to turn on you, and incriminate you. That 50 minute lecture is 50% a professor of law 50% a police officer.
1 likeThe ONLY reason why you are in that room, is for the cops to get material against you. In that room, they aren't your friends. That's why they have to read you your rights: "everything you say can and will be used AGAINST you", the law is very specific in that way.
The officer in that lecture says something along the lines of: "86% of all arrests lead through conviction through confession". You have to lawyer up, even if you are the victim, or for example the only witness to a murder.
Thank you for the reminder. I live in New Zealand and the laws are different but I think these statements are still true.
0 likesI've only been in trouble once.. its true.. even if they act like they're on your side they are just trying to get you for something :( scary shit for me at the time.
1 likeactually dont even talk to the cops period but I was high asf so I didnt snitch
0 likes@F-35A Lightning II cops are only human and trying to do their job. Is it not possible the majority of them actually want to get to the truth and see justice served?
0 likesYep
0 likes@Person Incognito
0 likesOh PI! You sing my song! I'm a girl and I watch a lot (a lot) of MMA, BJJ and Sumo. Because most of those commenting are guys on martial art channels, I'm always saddened to hear two guys dissolving from intelligent gentlemen to calling each other names and insulting one another.
Guess it's just another sign of the times.... really sad though.
PI, I applaude your maturity, elegance and intelligence❣🎖
@Brady Neal ...and now, things have relaxed so much... I remember when it was a big deal! 🌱
1 likeThanks for sharing, your analogy is a good one!
Hope life had become better and nicer for you!
@Blue eyes Thank you for the kind words. My incident happened in Vegas in 2015. Weed had become legal in Vegas at that time and the bitch prosecutor must have passed weed billboards on her way to court because I know I did. And she was still trying to give me 20 years! Luckily the judge was an honorable man and ignored her bullshit that I was a danger to society and gave me 5 years probation, which is over the end of this year. My normal life has been on hold for 5 years, so I will be glad when this ridiculousness ends.
0 likes@A B Hell no. That's what they want you to believe though.
0 likesI have a question. What if the cops appoint a lawyer to you, but you don't agree with that person being your lawyer?
0 likes@Erase Life There is usually a process to change public defenders. However, the procedures are sometimes complex and time consuming. You will have to submit a written request to the court as well as the public defender’s office and provide evidence as to why you are submitting the change request.
0 likesWait you tell ur lawyers the truth lmaoooo
0 likesAnd rule #6: If you're a witness to a crime and the cops want to speak to you a second time, get a lawyer.
0 likesI have tried brain washing my kids these rules since their childhood. I also add an extra rule. Wait till his dad or mom or lawyer arrive before even opening his mouth. Only say name then ask for lawyer. Nothing else. And I explained that cop will lie and deceive at every opportunity to get what they want.
0 likes@F-35A Lightning II ... and statistics support this: In about 90% cases the accused are found guilty with their own statements as the only evidence.
0 likes@The Great Fomo Only a high school diploma does not exclude that someone is very intelligent.
0 likesHe kind of looks like ice Poseidon
0 likesfree my man Jeff
1 likeI like Jeff!
0 likes''My name is Jeff''
0 likesJeff: Tells interrogator he didn’t do anything
2306 likesrefuses to elaborate
leaves
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Jeff is a certified GigaChad
143 likesExecute order 66
11 likesNever talk to the them without a lawyer
48 likesDrinks soda
37 likesDenies he did the crime
Refuses to elaborate
Leaves
I know no one cares but being the 1000th like is satisfying
4 likesAlpha
0 likesLol
0 likesMan who knows his rights. The burden lies with proving guilt. He doesn't have to prove innocence.
3 likes@Ricky Hits I got asked that question once, if I hadn't done anything what did I have to worry about. Answer was 20 something years of watching L&O, soon as I asked for attorney they sent me on my way (I had nothing to do with what they were after anyways).
1 likeCHAD
0 likesAbsolute chad
0 likesbased.
0 likesDidn’t expect a bad Santa recap on criminal psychology video
0 likes12:14 this nigga the goat😂‼️‼️‼️
1 likearrrgh! no conclusion. crying emoji
0 likesI wonder if Jeff is single?
0 likesYou can’t give a heroine guy coke and expect a confession.
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An addict dude, they're called an addict.
17 likes"heroine guy"
@Alex Briggs obviously you don’t understand the pun.
64 likesIt’s not a pun, if anything it’s a cringy pun. If he had given him methadone, which is the cops fault, then he would have gotten some sort of a confession. Just more evidence the police are disconnected from reality and how the world works.
9 likes@hi86065 Wtf are you talking about my guy
42 likes@hi86065 you know I normally don’t explain things to people but for you I’ll make the exception.
51 likes#1 The cop asked if he was prescribed the medication and he said no, he would have needed to be evaluated and then prescribed the medication, a cop can’t just give out a controlled substance because a drug addict said the was in withdrawal all addicts would just commit a crime when in withdrawal to be questioned about said crime to get more drugs.
#2 Had the cop given him the medication without a prescription his confession would have been useless because he would have been under the influence, not to mention the cops not a Dr so giving him the medication would have been unlawful “ let’s give him drugs to get the confession” right okay.
#3 The man is “heroine” addicted they gave him “Coca-Cola” to make him comfortable enough that he might confess.
#4 someone dumb enough to think that law enforcement should be giving out controlled substances to coerce a confession probably isn’t capable of understanding a joke.
@Alex Briggs you must be fun at parties
10 likes@Montana Tatum yk I’m thinking he was high on something when he made that comment🤔
4 likes@Alex Briggs That pun went WAY over your head, bud.
4 likes@Karina are you kidding he must be the life of the party.
3 likes@Montana Tatum 😭🤣
1 like@hi86065 you have no humor huh
1 like@Karina if he even gets invited to those
3 likes@rupert woah!! took me a couple of reads before I got it, too. Stop ripping him apart
1 like@Alex Briggs r/woooosh
2 likes@Matthew Zilog I seen the mistake I just hate to see “edited” on a comment.
1 likeI checked. He doesn't work for Coke.
1 likeToday's episode was sponsored by Pepsi.
0 likesJeff for President! 😆
0 likesThis is half the kds I went to HS with.
0 likesCOP: "you have the right to remain silent"
2217 likesJeff: Blows his nose
COP: ._______.
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4 likes@MuffinGuns9846 don't flirt with the anime girl.
11 likes@hello was that a joke
0 likes@Nameless yes
1 like@Lix ' yeah that makes sense
0 likes@hello ♤
0 likes@Nameless quadrants are mighty funny.
0 likes@MuffinGuns9846
0 likes♤
Anyone knows what happened to him?
0 likesJeff is overpowered.
0 likesJesus, 6'5 and 153 pounds. Don't do heroin kids!
0 likesANALYZE AMBER HEARDS BEHAVIOR DURING THE TRIAL PLEASE
0 likesRetired cops and Lawyers agree: Don't talk to the cops. It can only hurt you, not help you.
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I watched an Hour Senimar about why you shouldn't talk to the cops. I'll never do it
1 likeEven if you’re innocent and just tell the truth?
0 likes@Panda Pinecone especially if you’re innocent.
8 likes@Panda Pinecone an estimated 1/20 criminal cases result in a wrongful conviction. Even if you're innocent you should just keep your mouth shut and talk to a lawyer so you have fully understand everything
2 likesI respect the hell out of Jeff for how he interacted here regardless of whether he committed that armed robbery or not. I hope he's gotten clean and is living his best life. Man deserves more than what he got with his lot in life.
237 likesI was a detective for many years. This guy played those cops like fools
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How so
1 like@Beauty By Ashhh by being 2 steps ahead of the officers at all times, and not divulging information, calling out the cop's lies about having evidence when it didn't exist.
3 likesMe too bruh I’ve been a detective in the fbi cia and the KGB and the SS
3 likes@Sand niggardly that’s not what I heard
0 likesLost me at the beginning...
1 likeJeff is not an anti-hero. He’s just a hero.
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🤣
0 likesNo, he regularly does heroin he's deffo anti
4 likeshero we deserve.
0 likes@Alex Horn What about him being a heroin addict makes him an anti-hero? Do you think being an addict is morally wrong?
21 likeshe's a perfect anti-hero
0 likes@Suylyath Yes. And so should you.
0 likes@Alex Horn Yeah alright crazy man
8 likes@Suylyath Calling me a crazy man because I view being an addict is morally wrong... I'll leave you with that.
0 likes@Alex Horn Yeah you just reinstated my correct point as some kind of “gotcha” or something lol. Even crazier
6 likes@Suylyath The irony is hilarious.
0 likes@Alex Horn Don’t see how.
6 likes@Suylyath That's WHY it's hilarious.
0 likes@Alex Horn I think you’re bullshitting lol. No irony in my statements
8 likes@Suylyath Keep going.
0 likesNo he is definitely an anti-hero.
1 likeBut I like anti-heroes.
Homie getting ratio'd multiple times and is still going.
4 likesPoints for persistence.
@Alex Horn Addiction to drugs like heroin has no moral basis. You have one life and it should be your right to do what you want, even if it causes harm. If it's something like crack, which can make users harm others, my opinion would be a bit different. Morality has nothing to do with personal life choices. It comes into play when you involve others. Just like getting wasted at home, getting a tattoo or being gay, it's nobody's business.
3 likes@Suylyath The actions they're willing to do to fuel their addiction is what makes them the anti-hero. Besides,consuming drugs also has other mental effects that may or may not affect others
0 likes@Alex Horn Lol my dude quit with the argument narrowing. He’s clearly not saying drug addiction is the same as being gay. He’s saying it’s nobody’s business and has no moral basis
0 likes@Адам I think you have a preconceived idea of addicts in your head. You wouldn’t call an alcoholic an anti-hero. They fuel their addiction because they’re addicted. Some are genetically predisposed. Others made some bad decisions. But just being an addict doesn’t make you morally conflicted to the point where one should be labeled an anti-hero.
1 like@Alex Horn who decides what is moral
0 likes@Suylyath It can. I was an methamphetamine addict for 4-6 years. I lied, cheated, and stole my loved ones to feed my drug habit. When you're an addict you emotionally and God forbid physically hurt the ones around you.
0 likes@Brandon1997 I understand that. Meth is horrible but I don’t think addiction as a trait is morally wrong to the point where it would make a hero an anti-hero. I feel that kind of rhetoric vilifies addicts as if their disease outweighs their victories or heroisms. Many addicts function without hurting anyone
0 likes@Suylyath Yeah I agree with that. That's why I believe it "can" be morally wrong
0 likes@Brandon1997 For sure. It can drive you to do messed up things and those actions are what makes someone morally wrong. My mother was a meth addict when I was a baby. I grew up around addicts, but my mother still took care of me and did everything she could to make sure I was on the right path. She’s my hero and no amount of drugs she did in the past will make her an anti-hero
0 likesJeff is by no means a "hero". Did he save anyone?
0 likesI like Jeff. Dude's got issues, but so does everybody in their own way and magnitude. Wish the guy the best, and hope he has found success in life.
10 likesTruly a legend. Hope he’s doing well these days.
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I broke my phone and can’t access my channel right now but I’m working on it thanks for caring
21 likes@Jeffrey Pearson you're a legend man.
1 like"We got a lot of physical evidence!"
23 likes"...like what?"
"..........why should I tell you that?"
Lmao. Don't talk to cops.
When Jeff does his little cuffed shrug and said “ I told you this was gonna happen I fuggen died laughin lol
7 likesclicked on this to learn about Jeff. ended up getting a whole doctorate in the concept of the antihero
7 likesSetting aside the alledeged narcotic use and criminal entanglements Jeff seems like a likable guy.
1 likeThe man, the myth, the legend
6 likes"I have enough evidence"
9 likesRule number 1: If a cop tells you they have enough evidence, they for sure do NOT have enough evidence LOL
This guy was hilarious. From the coke to his claim about getting the butterfinger lmao
2 likesWhat is the point of telling him his rights, when they aren't upheld while he is choosing to use them? He asked for a lawyer. Stop trying to get him to talk without one.
13 likesHaving been where he is, withdrawing and all, I tip my hat to him.
1 likeI’ve watched this video now 20 times at least. It never gets old and is still just as funny as the first time. “Thanks for the coke…”
0 likesThe last one I saw a woman got 10 years for murdering her 2 daughters. This guy maybe got 15-20 for a crime where at worst someone got scared and lost some money? 🤦♂️ wild.
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This shit is wild
1 likeThose investors got trolled i love seeing what happens when the investors get questioned back. What seems to fluster the investors is the fact that he called bullshit on both investors. That's the perfect way to counter interrogate the police giving the fact police can lie cilivian can't.
0 likesAnd Jeff is still a legend..
1 likeThere are some very few cases where cooperation does benefit. But if they're already convinced of your guilt don't say anything....But don't load up on sugar when you know withdrawal is coming either. His cell is going to be covered in sticky coke-vomit....
And I would think if we have his name we can look up more on him. Won't necessarily yield anything, but if he got arrested again they'd have that on record.
I’ve always known they would eventually tell the legendary story of Jeff
0 likesJeff tutorial-Trade craft for criminals 101. This series of videos are really well presented. Great job on content. 👍
0 likesDetective: "You have the right to remain silent, do you understand?"
1 likeJeff: Remains silent
Absolute legend here!
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I don't know if he intentionally played them here but he sure did have the right to remain silent lol From their reaction I don't believe this is a regular occurrence to them!
0 likesI can still empathize with this man and being addicted to heroin for over a decade. I know exactly what he's going through.
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I broke my phone and can’t acces anything but thanks for all the understanding and love foreal
1 likeLoved the Bad Santa reference. One of my favourite comedies and definitely my favourite Christmas movie.
0 likesThe detectives demeanor changed so much towards the end
0 likesI was a heroin addict for 12 years. I can so relate with this guy. 💛
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Jesus I'm glad you're on the other side now. Wish the best for you! 💛
0 likes@Alex Cisneros Aw. Thanks. I appreciate it. ❤️
1 likeWatched this with my girlfriend who is a Barrister and she found it quite enjoyable , stating that this is rare.
0 likes12:25 "You didn't confess to something you didn't do so you don't get your treat"
2 likesI love Jeff, seems like a guy to steal horses together 🥰
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Let’s do this
1 likeCop: why should I tell you?
7 likesJeff: why should I tell you?
"Wham-bam, thank you for the Coke. Put me back in the cell."
2 likesLevity aside, these videos really horrify me. Interrogation officers are really willing to stab you in the back, huh?
hope youre doing well jeff
0 likesI’m buying a 6 pack of Coke and watching Bad Santa tonight. Thanks Jeff. Hope you make it in life.
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1 like“Wam bam, thank you for the Coke, put me back in the cell.” I love this guy.
1 likeI want Jeff to succeed in life!
0 likesLove jeff. Hope he's better.
0 likesI fail to understand why cop #2 at 9:30 is even talking to this guy... he asked for a lawyer hours ago... I am no attorney, but I have to believe anything he would have told cop #2 would have been inadmissible.
0 likesJeff even going thru heroine withdrawals knew it was in his best interest not to talk with detectives.
0 likesthe taking the handcuffs off thing was a misdirection to get him to agree to understanding his rights, they came in and restarted 3 times just so they could set up a nice clip of him agreeing
0 likesHope he's doing well
0 likesI love this man so much
0 likes8:58 "Now you've handcuffed me" to Jeff, who is handcuffed
3 likes"Wam bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell"
2 likesHe has such a way with words <3
I absolutely love Jeff
0 likes6:14 that was actually lowkey impressive ngl
0 likesI love how the "psychology expert" doesn't weigh in on the interrogators demeanor at the end. He was clearly lying and behaving in a child like manor.
4 likesThis is a true Xmas story. Good luck, Jeff
0 likesI lost it when he said "you look like a prick!"
0 likesWe here at the Georgia Department of Law Enforcement would like to thank The Coca Cola Company for sponsoring this video.
0 likesJeff: you look like a prick!
0 likesYou KNOW that other detective wanted to fall out laughing 😂😂😂😂
"are you the good cop? Nope I'm usually the prick... (Jeff responds) You look like a prick" hahahahahahah Classic!
0 likes"cause I don't believe that you got any evidence..." sooo at least he did it
0 likesOK, SO WHAT happened to Jeff?
2 likesJeff is a legend! i hope he kicks the habit rather sooner
0 likesTheory: he only did this so he could get as many cokes out of them as possible
0 likesWhy they keep talking to him, when he clearly asked for a attorney multiple times?
1 likeMoral of the story if they claim to have a lot of evidence they don't and are reaching for the confession.
0 likesMy version Jeff ends up in Congress.
3 likesat the beginning i thought that he read to Jeff his rights, he has the right to remain silent so he didn't answer. and he didn't want them to know that he understands his rights.
0 likesDo you understand the rights I have explained to you?
0 likes“No”
“huh?”
“Yeah”
Serial killers and psycopaths cant behave like jeff because they actually want to brag about their crimes, most of the time is that narcisistic attitude that gets them in the first place because they "have to let someone know what they did" thats the whole point and they never think they will get caught. They cant stay quiet for long, every time they get reminded of the crime they feel like they r going to explode if they dont say something usually happens when the interrogator makes them feel confortable, after that they gladly spill the soup with details.
0 likesIntro starts at 2:42
0 likes10 years MINIMUM FOR ROBBERY?!!! WTF
1 likeI would trust him with my neighbor's kids
0 likesJeff: “You look like a prick” 😂😂😂😂
0 likesDidn’t this video used to be longer? I remember something about “sitting on a gun”
0 likes“Wam bam thank you for the coke. Put me back in the cell”💀💀💀
0 likeshope he's doing better now.
0 likes"wham bam thank you for the coke put me back in a cell"
1 like“You look like a prick” this guys a legend idc
0 likes‘What about that butterfinger you promised me’😂😂😂
0 likesleave him alone , your job is done here ! say Lawyer Jeff!
0 likesWhat a troll.
1 like"You have the right to remain silent" reads rights
"Do you understand sir?"
"Sir?"
"Sir do you understand?"
"Do you understand your rights sir? Sir?"
"Sir"
Like I fucking cracked up. What a troll
i loved this video, thank you for the coke
0 likesYou ever find yourself in that position?....remain SILENT.
1 likeHow come he didn't get a lawyer when he asked for one?
0 likesits 2021, how is his outcome a mystery?
0 likesLet Jeff be Jeff yall 😂😂
1 likeHe reminds me so much of Phil Anselmo when he was using heavy
0 likesI wanted a soda so bad when I went to jail... Lucky Jeff.
0 likesIs there a total and complete video of all his interrogations? I almost feel like (not saying The creator of this channel has anything to do with it ) the video of this guys experience is put up an out for those to watch so the “they” (government/cops/the man) can read the general publics responses/comments of how people react to this particular interrogation, which IS so different than most, to gain knowledge and statistics of why this guy is so popular. What the gen pop sees in him. Why they sympathize with him. Basically to learn for further info about humans in general and use it for study (the reactions of all those who’ve commented) into a form of manipulation and a way to better manipulate/interrogate. Like as if posting these videos is a type of study on all of us ya know? Does that sound crazy? I always wonder if I’m the only one who thinks this ?
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Yes it sounds crazy
0 likesJeff went from heroine to Coke. Pretty good choice if ya ask me.
0 likesWhy did you guys remove the analysis behind the "Long Time, Buddy..." line and probably others I'm forgetting?
1 likeI heard Jeff is actually stuck in a timeloop and to this day is just repeatedly going back and forth to his cell, then back up to the interrogation room for a can of coke. Tudududu tudududu tudududu...
0 likes"you have the right to remain silent" and so he did....
0 likes3:53 look at the kids face lol.
0 likesthis guy can literally say my name is jeff
0 likesHe's an amalgam of The Dude and Walter.
0 likesHmmmm, I don't see the interview genius in Jeff that most others see here. He's just another drug user who's been in that seat loads of times and isn't moved one way or the other about being banged up.
0 likesI am proud to be a Jeff
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0 likesI think that in order for us to feel morally justified in rooting for the antihero, the antihero must standoff against a villain that is more morally reprehensible than himself.
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I think that’s what the detective represents hence the saying,” Jeff’s advisory” in the video
0 likesI don’t know if I. Spelled that right
In my opinion Jeff is in Prison I think you need a college degree in Advertising to work for The Coca Cola Marketing Team. Yeah He’s in jail.
1 likeWhy is Jeff barefoot is this a thing the cops do now?
1 like"Wam bam, thanks for the coke, put me back in the cell."
0 likesidk why i cry so much when i watch your videos lol must be your voice idk
0 likesI wonder if he got away with it
0 likesHe f'n understood alright jajajajaja you have the right to remain silent and damn Jeff did keep silent jajajajajajajajaja
0 likesIt's pretty obvious Jeff didn't commit this crime. Hope he got clean.
0 likesJeff reminds me of Billy Bob Thornton.
0 likesnah cause where is Jeff right now today!? I wanna meet him 😂
0 likesfree my boy jeff he aint do nothin
2 likesBad Santa is one of my favorite movies actually
0 likesHe’s just doin this to finesse some coke
0 likesjeff is funny as hell
0 likesHow can he have a side to a story,he had nothing to do with?
0 likesAre they not supposed to stop asking questions when he asked for a lawyer.
0 likesI want a lawyer ..... I want a lawyer .... I want a lawyer ...
0 likesGood job Jeff
0 likesHe's obviously using his right to remind silent at the start. Lol..
0 likesHow about the butterfinger you promised 😭😂😂😂
0 likesHa ha as soon as arrested invoke your right to remain silent, and watch the police run around like a headless chicken !!
0 likesDON'T TALK TO THE POLICE
1 likeWhy is lil peep in a cell ?
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Lil peep is in the grave
0 likesI was a heroin addict for 4 years and my father was a lawyer and basically told me if I was ever arrested to ask for a lawyer and say nothing else because he considered the police the biggest gang in the world. Jeff played this perfectly I hope he's found his way without heroin.
68 likesHotheaded cop. Prolly sips from the mushroom teat of the XO
0 likesJeff is my hero
0 likesWham bam, thank you for the Coke. Put me back in the cell 🤣 💥
0 likesScrew arresting cuz, get my man Jeff some help and another chance at life, yo
0 likesmatthew mcconaughey is playing him in the 2022 comedy documentary
0 likesWhere is the lawyer he asked for hours and hours ago?
0 likesHe has his own channel called the legend of jeff. Not sure why the narrator doesn't know this.
0 likesI cant help but like Jeff.
0 likes6'5" 153 lbs.
0 likesSkin and bones.
“thanks for the coke”
0 likesHe’s 6ft 5in but only 153lbs?? I’m 6’2” and a hundred lbs heavier T_T
1 likeNot to be on the criminals side, but this guy asked for legal council several times and they don't get him it.
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They did. Why do u think there was a latge gap between time and he was released the next day?
77 likes@SnS right but I thought when someone claims their rights the questioning stops.
126 likes@Sheryl Ferraro This is true. Legally, they should stop questioning and only question him with his attorney present. With a good attorney, they could get everything he said after he asked for an attorney admissible in court.
113 likesNothing wrong with taking the (suspected) criminal's side. Not everyone who ends up in a room with a police interrogator is guilty. The only crime he admits to here is repeated use of illegal drugs, which we all know makes him more likely to be involved in more crimes, but thank goodness we don't (or do, but shouldn't?) imprison people a priori based on statistics.
151 likes@spacekeeper: Gonna be a prick (ha!) and say that the "suspected" shouldn't be in brackets! Being suspected and/or asking for a lawyer shouldn't count as evidence that you're actually a criminal (at least for the crime in question!)
24 likes@Riley Hunter not exactly. If what you were saying were true, as applied to a situation like this video, then as soon as someone asks for an attorney the police could never again ask them any questions about this case for the rest of their life. When someone asks for an attorney, that doesn't mean that the police are never allowed to ask questions again.
2 likesThere are some time skips in the video that you may not have noticed. If the police stop the interrogation and then initiate a separate interrogation at a later time, that's fine (especially if they mirandize them again, which you'll notice they do). The period of time that needs to exist in between conversations for them to be considered separate interrogations is debatable and not well defined. It can't be 10 seconds, but it doesn't necessarily need to be hours.
And the suspect does not have to have seen their attorney in between an interrogation session where they ask for one and a separate interrogation session, either. Any information that a suspect freely communicates with police at any time can be used in court, even if it is immediately after invoking their Miranda rights.
@Sheryl Ferraro Just for that single interrogation session. When someone asks for an attorney, that doesn't mean that the police are never allowed to ask questions without an attorney present again for the rest of the subject's life.
1 likeThere are some time skips in the video that you may not have noticed. If the police stop the interrogation and then initiate a separate interrogation at a later time, that's fine (especially if they mirandize them again, which you'll notice they do). The period of time that needs to exist in between conversations for them to be considered separate interrogations is debatable and not well defined. It can't be 10 seconds, but it doesn't necessarily need to be hours.
And the suspect does not have to have seen their attorney in between an interrogation session where they ask for one and a separate interrogation session, either. Any information that a suspect freely communicates with police at any time can be used in court, even if it is immediately after invoking their Miranda rights.
@Sheryl Ferraro It varies from county to county. In Minneapolis for example, if someone decides to use their right to silence or asks for an attorney, the investigator can continue to ask questions as long as they are still actively working on getting an attorney.
2 likes@Sheryl Ferraro They don't have to stop asking questions, but the answers to said questions can be admissable in court.
2 likes@120mm Smoothbore Do you mean "inadmissible"? Because "admissible" means it IS allowed.
3 likes@James T Yes.
2 likesThat's exactly how they do it and the fact that he's in withdrawal and locked in that tiny room is extra shitty. It's bs that detectives are allowed to do whatever the heck they want.
3 likesAlso he was innocent.
1 like@spacekeeper I 100% believe he didn't do it. He does not come across as any kind of liar.
0 likesThis man has yet to be sentenced to a crime and he is innocent until proven guilty (I'm pretty sure he later was) but you should probably think about being on his side until he's sentenced to a crime
2 likesHe’s not a criminal, and even if he was quit being a narc
0 likesI genuinely believe that interrogators are either the best, or the worst human beings. When they're pushing a serial killer towards confessing it is great, but when they try and push a vulnerable being, with a bad past, as well as being addicted to heroin to confessing to a crime he did not commit, it is sad. It makes me think that either way they will attempt to get a confession, instead of getting the truth. I also genuinely think that "Jeff" is intelligent, at least above average by a few points, he is just in a bad spot, and has been for many years.
0 likes1:51 looks like Jeff is a terrible fighter
0 likesLove your work.
0 likesDoes anyone know what happened to Jeff?
0 likesDetective “I’ve got a lot of evidence “
1768 likesJeff - “Like what”?
Detective- “LoLz I dunno 😬 “
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Yeah the only person being deceptive here was the interrogator. Jeff was being truthful to the point of it being painfully obvious.
57 likes"Now why should I tell you that?"
15 likesWell sir, you are trying to ruin my life, I would appriciate knowing why.
I believe not telling them the evidence is a tactic to both avoid giving the suspect any idea of how much the police know, as well as to see if the suspects slip up and either blatantly lie as well as see if they give information that only the cops, the victim, and the perpetrator know. But don't quote me on that
0 likesThanks for the subtitles
1 likeI can’t lie, Jeff is such a mood
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Ikr
2 likesCringe..
12 likesHuh?
1 like@T. de Goeij how is saying something is a mood cringe?
2 likes@yeontans's mum sorry to say, but it is incredibly cringe.
4 likesA heroin addict is a mood?
0 likesJeff is no dummy, that’s for sure!
0 likesSo you're watching this and everything is normal. Then
4361 likes"You the good cop?"
"No, normally I'm the prick"
"You look like a prick"
Yeah we gotta good'um folks
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i can’t lie it caught me way off guard i was rolling
92 likesCalled it
6 likes@Justin Cogar no it’s “a prick”
5 likes@Typhoon Titley 1:37
0 likesI dunno
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0 likes@Justin Cogar it’s “a prick”
2 likes@thiccybapbap slow it down to. 75 & you can gently hear the sound of the tongue coming to the tip of his lips making 'th' or maybe even "'da' prick".
0 likes@Justin Cogar “the prick” wouldn’t make sense in this situation even if it was what jeff said
0 likesplease I can't be the only one who instantly thought about the tiktok sound: " i was a sprinkles guy when i was younger" - "yeah you look like a sprinkles guy" - "what the hell is that supposed to mean? ".
0 likescleanest comeback ever
1 like@thiccybapbap yes it would; there are two cops, he would use 'the' to Differentiate between the 'good cop' and the bad cop who looks like a prick; and 'a' if there was just one cop.
0 likes@thiccybapbap I agree with Justin here, definitely said "you look like the prick". Just because the narrator wrote "you look like a prick" doesn't mean it's right.
1 like@Collin thanks Colin, I don't mean any anger or illwill to anyone...just heard it differently. Lol
0 likesLMAO
0 likesCAN I GET A TIME STAMP
0 likes@Sam -91 1:37
0 likes@Justin Cogar THANKD
0 likesI had a stroke reading this, it’s not bad I just suck at reading
0 likes@Collin okay, but how would you use “you like the prick” in a sentence correctly?
0 likesIf Jeff wasn’t a heroin addict, he would probably be a contract negotiator for a Fortune 100 company.
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Ask a previous addict to the same stuff, I can 100% honestly say, every single addict I’ve ever met has the ability of a smooth talking for many reasons, negotiating, getting money, getting what they want / need in general. If addicts put 30% of their efforts from drugs to productive things in life, they would hands down run this world.
83 likes@Toph mcgoph well done getting sober, proud of any able to beat that horrible garbage
17 likesHe’s very smart
1 likeif you are in the trade better know the hacks
2 likesPlot twist: before Jeff was a heroin addict, he was a contract negotiator for a Fortune 100 company.
9 likes@Toph mcgoph My dad is a heroin addict in recovery and I can confirm their smooth talking is out of this world, my dad talked himself out of getting arrested 3 times ._.
7 likesGlen Slaven thank you, it’s never easy beating the things like that, willpower and support is where it’s at. I just hope everyone in their life gets to enjoy the small things in the world that addiction strips away from us.
2 likesbubblezz absolutely, I would make the argument that addicts of all types are able to think quicker on their feet due to self preservation. Many people who have never experience addiction like that can’t understand the enormous effect that self preservation can have on someone’s abilities....I do hope and wish for the best on your dad, seen to many people fall to addiction and heroin is the most evil product on the street and hope he is able to get clean to enjoy watching his children / grand children grow...
3 likeschristopher pinckard thank you kindly for the nice words ;_ ; It’s hard watching him struggle to keep his head above water. Especially when he cried in my arms about how the drug takes over your life. I’m glad you got back on your feet because I know it truly does take a lot to recover from that state. I hope you’re living well !!
2 likes@ZeroMass a key point in the negotiations.
2 likesWhich is why he is now the CMO of Coke
2 likes@Toph mcgoph its simple, they want the shit so bad, so extremely, that they will deploy an excessive amount of energy and smartness to get it, and they are used to do that.
0 likesMost people dont want anything that much, but if they do, they will endure a lot of effort too to get it.
you can be smart and clever and homeless, all at the same time. you can be rich and stupid and have a high school education. non of those achievements and or personal characteristics have a hard correlation.
0 likesWalter White is a perfect antihero
0 likesCop: “Do you understand your rights?”
3640 likesJeff: “..no”
Cop: “Huh?”
Jeff: “Yeah”
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Lol I've said the same thing last time i got arrested
86 likesThat's how they get you. Once you respond in the affirmative to the question, "Do you understand?" you are now vulnerable.
50 likes"Mmmmmm"
7 likesMr. Varhansen 👍
0 likes@Ozymandias Ben Dover No, they will hold you on a 5150 and do a mental evaluation on you to affirm that you do understand. If you do, then they will show you are sane and back to jail with your ass. I can guarantee these guys commenting have never been arrested, because they would know that.
44 likes@Ozymandias Ben Dover Just dont say anything. Without evidence you walk in a certain time
11 likesGot me good 🤣
1 like@Eddie Turbine That was a nice strawman you made there. Good job!
1 likeEddie Turbine has retrwr
0 likes😂😂
0 likes@Eddie Turbine You replied to me, though.
0 likes@Eddie Turbine no you can still be held liable with or without.
0 likesThat is a trick question
0 likes@Ozymandias Nullifidian police code for legally insane
0 likesG C You clearly don’t know the legal meaning of the word ‘understand’ or why he’s asking it.
1 likeVery often cops will give away the process. I’m in the UK, but I can very easily figure out that if the cop says “A verbal response, that’s all I need” he’s betrayed the fact that he’s attempting to contract with Jeff. When Jeff changes “No” into “Yeah”, he’s acquiesced, he’s contracting with the cop. But that’s just the intro. Much worse is the subtext which is unspoken:
he’s agreeing to stand under his authority.
Now the cop has him. Next, the cop attempts to gather evidence in the form of testimony which the cop intends to refute in court - which WILL convict him, even if there is no real evidence. My guess is he’s going down. I’m at 12:30.
G58 you were wrong. Next time watch the video and then comment. 😂
2 likesWhatsitmatter Whydoyoucare You wrote:
0 likes“G58 you were wrong.”
About what?
“Next time watch the video and then comment. 😂”
Why?
Why do you believe you have the right to dictate how others use this website? Do you own it? Do you possess some proprietary control over it? Have you got some sort of complex you feel like telling us about? This is a safe place. We are good listeners.
@gogglespisano24 5150 from what I see in most states just gives the police the right to send you to a psychic ward for a 72hour hold, perhaps then to be questioned again depending on evaluation. Which they probably could have some influence on?
0 likesWe all understand the words, but I don't think anyone rly understands them when the way they're used fluctuates drastically. It almost seems like they don't matter, and he knows that.
0 likesI loved that part🖤♥️
0 likesYou can't explain how bad heroin withdrawal is unless you have been there!!!I have.
0 likesJeff: playing good cop?
2071 likesCop: Nah, usually I'm the prick
Jeff: You look like a prick.
DEAD 💀💀💀
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I laughed literally out loud
19 likes@✨Jessica Rodriguez✨ x2
4 likesI lost it! 😂😂😂
0 likesYeah bro 🤣🤣🤣 best comeback in real life ever lol
1 likeJeff the killer!
0 likesdead body reported
0 likesLmao that was so funny
0 likesNot that funny ! Just a good answer !
0 likesEnglish it's not my first language, can someone please explain me what "prick" means?
0 likes@Lorenzo Bandinelli im not an english native but im good enough. not only prick is a ~synonym for bully, but also prick is an insult. So thats why it was funny.
0 likes@Charles Benca thank you so much man
0 likesWHY DIDNT THEY GET JEFF THE F*CKING LAWYER?!
0 likesKind of funny how well Jeff uses his hands/teeth to open the soda, grab a tissue, etc. Like it's the thing he's the most used to doing. Guy's been around the block, that's for sure.
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"long time buddy"
6 likesI used to open sodas like that when I was younger. Glad I stopped, for my teeth’s sake. Also don’t want people thinking I’ve been around the block more than once 🤓
1 likeits nothing to be proud of i bet jeff would tell you first hand being around the block isnt cool
0 likesI know a guy that’s done a lot of time. And he moves around like that without cuffs on
0 likes“So when’s that coke coming - or is that just a fairytale” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Thanks for the subtitles
8 likes@Jaina Mormont bruh going on every comment that quotes something and saying this shit petty as hell😭😭😭
44 likes@Zachery Lightfoot haha, thanks :)
3 likes@Jaina Mormont you have too much free time
9 likes@Cheez haha thanks
1 like@Zachery Lightfoot i think it's funny
2 likes@Fruben haha, thanks :)
1 like@Zachery Lightfoot lololololol
0 likesLMFAOOO
0 likesIs he saying that the coke is coming or it’s just a lie from the police? Or he is just high
0 likesLol after already getting one
0 likes@Jaina Mormont thanks for the useless comment that’s no better than posting funny subtitles
0 likes@HollyHoles You're welcome!
2 likes@Andreas Thanks for announcing your contribution to the comment chain! Super important!
2 likesLesson of the day kids, stay off the heroine
0 likesHe's honest, soft spoken, appreciative, and wise. Junkie or not, this session went far smoother than most.
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THis man knows how this shit works. Wisdom comes from experience, as they say. He's definitely got experience with the Law as a 10 year junkie lol.
18 likesHe’s very smart, if he didn’t fall for drugs he would be good in his life
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The dude is a legend though.
51 likesHe is famous for being hillarious to the cops.
I'd say he did alright.
Or, only because he did use drugs and was previously arrested, he became smarter about how police conduct interrogations. He’s smarter for his failings. He wouldn’t necessarily be “good in his life” if he hadn’t gone down this road.
32 likes@Server Error Please Try Again I think so, it clearly shows that down this road in life he can still learn and has wisdom from what he's learned. There's criminals out there that are absolute morons. He definitely could have kept learning and growing in a positive way if life didn't shit on him.
11 likes@Server Error Please Try Again %%g%
1 likemany successful people and mediocre people have done well in life, while drugs have been part of their lives. Look at all the prescriptions around the world which are opiod based.!!!
4 likes@Mark McCue so you think being a heroin addict and making snarky remarks to police is a success? Who gives an f about being famous. I used to be a heroin addict, I used to make the snarky comments it's nothing to be proud of.
6 likes@Server Error Please Try Again And you think succesful people didn't go through the same path multiplw times before becoming succesful?
0 likes@yunus y , No I don’t think very many people have gone through that and later became successful. Drugs destroy people. People using drugs make very poor decisions because their judgement is so negatively affected. Generally, people that demonstrate such poor judgement that it’s documented by multiple arrests and convictions are not trusted to hold positions that lead to success. Can you list some people that escaped drug use and later succeeded, sure. However, the vast majority remain unsuccessful the rest of their life, however shortened that may be from drug use.
1 like@Server Error Please Try Again That isnt what I'm saying.
0 likesYou said he sounded smart because he has gone through the same procedure once.
I'm saying rich people go through the same path of trying to be rich, to actually become rich. Rich people dont become rich with their first try in general.
we are selective whom we chose to forgive or root for ....could be shared culture, race, personality etc....regardless, he is no likable anti-hero. no one knows wha he has done to get his heroine or crack or meth. taxpayer is footing the bills.
1 like@Fat Leonard I also know from myself that people with a very busy brain (even add/adhd) also use drugs a lot to normalize the brain. I myself got add, after a cigarette, or a bit of hash or alcohol, is the only time my brain feels normal.
0 likes@millsbomb007 yeah not many people popping percs or zannies are doing that great trust me... speed heads might have money but they hate themselves and that lifestyle too
0 likesJeff: "Playing good cop?"
2520 likesCop: "No, usually I'm the prick."
Jeff: "You look like a prick." 😒
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@godsent gg dope
7 likesGreat stuff right out the bat!
10 likesJeff is a mad lad
11 likesTimetamp????
1 like@Patience Ngoma no I am
0 likes@The Mad Lad I suppose you are correct.
1 like@kenjixic 1:34.
1 likeI'll go with the day after.
0 likesJeff heard “you have the right to remain silent,” and he immediately went silent
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Yup. Two responses either you freak out or you go quiet
1 likeJail isn't fun
Smart
2 likeshad our failed judicial system kept him in jail for his previous crimes he would not have been out to commit many of the other crimes
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What crimes?
0 likesWhat “other” crimes???
0 likes@Jeffrey Pearson i am not sure his record but in the video it tells at the 2min mark that he has been through the system many times over and also that his sentence would be higher because of his other convictions
0 likesRight but that is only referring to his past there is no telling what his future holds
0 likes@Jeffrey Pearson everyone has a chance at a future.. just as everyone can lose it all.. i just get so tired of people having multiple convictions and over and over again getting a tap on the wrist.. if nothing else some jail or prison time would have helped giving him a chance to figure life out and have some sober time and a new outlook on life
0 likes"You look like a prick...."
5266 likesawkward silence
"This... is Jeff..."
The most perfect intro to a video I've ever seen XD
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LOVED IT! OMG!
21 likes@Beverly Charles pl.
0 likesPRICELESS
5 likeshaha I was literally at that part in video when I read your comment & just knew someone would comment on that!!
4 likes“Jeff is a heron addict at has been for the last 14 years” 😯😯😯
5 likesIt made me remember Tarantino movie openings.
11 likesCool and perfectly timed.
Intro is like something out of a Tarantino movie...or Guy Ritchie.
7 likesI was drinking water at that right exact moment and I laughed and choked so hard lmao
3 likesnot really clever the guy already called himself one lol
0 likesI die!
0 likesYah pretty savage
1 likeI thought it's that 'my name a jeff' guy.
0 likesMan, Jeff's been on heroin for 14 years, looks like he's in his thirties and still has the wherewithal to deal with this while going through withdrawal. Jeff needs a supportive, reliable rehab program and help finding a life and a vocation he cares about and that care about him.
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Our system is designed to punish, not help. 95% chance that Jeff went to jail and when he got out he had the same problems he went in with.
114 likesThis guy could be something. Give him shit to lose, make him realize he still HAS things to lose.
36 likesI see an individual in good health who doesn't has no idea what he's gonna do. Needs people to teach him.
Nah way too late, he's done
3 likestopophil
17 likesNot true
topophil lmao have you ever been around a heroin addict who’s ACTUALLY too far gone? this guy is doing as good as someone can do for having woken up in jail dope sick. definitely not too far gone.
36 likesYeah, he could do amazing things he’s obviously smart. It’s sad to see Jeff tell the police he’s been addicted to heroin for a long time and is going through withdrawals and them not even acknowledge what he said. Imagine if instead of releasing him 12 hours later because they couldn’t get any info from him, they actually tried to help him.
15 likesHere's hoping he can focus his talents in healthier pursuits. Even with rehabilitation and a solid support system that's one hell of a monkey to get off his back. I've been clean a couple years now, my experience was child's play compared to his, and it's still a struggle in many ways. I wouldn't wish heroin addiction on my worst enemy.
14 likes@Miranda M Congrats on getting clean. I'm on the way out of Suboxone treatment. Mainly because it's manifested similar problems as heroin use did. It just took longer. I've actually managed to get down to 2mg strips. But most of the people there are using their RX + buying suboxone off the street. You would LITERALLY be better off giving people actual heroin than Bupe. But I often say those same words- I wouldn't wish opiate or benzo addiction on anyone.
10 likesCould not agree more Eliza.
1 like@Miranda M Neither would I, I had 7 years on it and its a horrible situation by the last couple years. Get up usually in mild WDs, Lie/Steal etc. and then pray that your connects got. Risk jail by going to collect. If IVng risk an OD and get high for about an hour and then feel normal for the next four usually until you nod off at night. Wake up in the morning and repeat. Thanfully im clean 371 days now and would not wish that life on anyone. Congratulations on your continutal soberity.❤❤
12 likeswe have a Ridgewood one in Saint John N.B. and it is a joke no wonder I can not get help! I sen these shows helping ppl get clean in these beautiful places u can go outside 20 years using 50 not much longer
0 likes@Angela Blanchard Im sorry about your situation but ultimately it comes down to the willingness and remaining inner strength of the addict to say "Im done" . The beauty of a rehab facilty does not determine whether you will get clean, you do. A lot of these places are actually scams just interested in taking desperate people's money. Can you get on substitution therapy (MMT/Suboxone) and use that to hold you until you get a bed? Sorry if I read your reply wrongly, just trying to help.
5 likesDaniel Doran thank you Daniel, be like Daniel people
0 likesCameron Foster Exactly, as a dual major Business Management and Psychology major, an addict who no longer uses, and a dealer who no longer deals. Real criminals and cops have the same psych profile, and yes if you have the talent or insane experiences like I’ve been through you can psycho analyze people by watching them. This guy is very intelligent and I can tell he would be a great guy and could learn to do anything and I mean that in my professional opinion. My methods are not the typical I guess you could say. True, People don’t give a fuck because we think people are disposable. People who go to church on Sunday and cops are terrible for this and I say this as a Christian. Drug laws are the dumbest things in the world but I won’t start on that. If anything comes from this post, remember not to judge because Jeff sins differently than you. Also I can’t get a job because of a misdemeanor in TN, I do run my own business though!
6 likesJeff looks and acts like a maintainer. Someone who just takes enough to get thru the day. Especially after the way he responded with "a long time buddy..."
2 likes@Finna Sprang He likely already has one.
0 likes@Jonathan Congratulations and please do what you need to do to stay clean!
1 likeJonathan good point my friend!
1 likeeliza washington There is rehabilitation in the jail and prison system. The problem is that when some addicted individuals leave a controlled environment and they are returned to the environment that gave them access to the drugs, they are back to their old habits. Many find “Christ” and sobriety in prison, but leave the teachings behind the bars.
1 likeBro this is the USA, the system doesn't give 2 f*cks about addiction. Just treat it as criminal and throw em in prison then (big surprise) they keep doing drugs, re offend and get put back in
2 likes@topophil it's never too late. it's always possible
1 like@Daniel Doran True. But he is past the point he can manage it. He needs a long term methadone inpatient program based on psychopharmacology, cognitive behavioral therapy, and behavioral change science (ie not the old school "break you down" and force you to spout bs from unscientific 12 step mtgs- tho its fine to choose to attend them if the comradery helps you, just like its fine to attend church if it helps you)
1 like@sarah Help how? Should they have taken him home and sat with him for days while he went through withdrawals? Should they have paid the thousands of dollars for rehab?? Get him some heroin? Tell me how.
0 likes@Miranda M I say that every waking day. I wouldnt wish heroin on my worst enemies. I was clean 3 days, then 5, then 14, then another 14. Today I am 2 days off of heroin. Some days I feel like I can conquer the world, most days I feel like I am a slave to my own anxiety and negative thoughts. I have a long way to go. But I am optimistic. I havent been able to say that honestly for years. I am optimistic.
1 like@Lafayette Moore Two days is still an accomplishment, and you should be proud of yourself because it's not easy to get there. I went to medical detox for a week and went on buprenorphine for six months to get through the worst of withdrawal and PAWS. I swear it saved my life - especially medical detox. I reccomend finding the right one for you as some take different pharmaceutical approaches. But the fact you want to get clean and are actively trying is such a great start!! Just know you don't have to do it alone or uncomfortably. Alot of facilities are great about working with anxiety/panic disorders and can provide great resources (12 step or not) to work on your mental health after detox. I'm rooting for you! Keep up the good work and keep the drive to follow through.
3 likes@Miranda M congratulations on your sobriety!! I'm 1 year and 8 and a half months. I really do feel for this guy. I was hoping to look through the comments and find someone who knows him and knows what has happened with him. Heroin really is the worst addiction. (in my experience) I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy either.
2 likes@Jonathan by your explanation I got serious flash backs! Keep up the good work 💪👍
1 likeOnce a junkie, always a junkie.
0 likes@Finna Sprang lol those days are long gone they don't offer college degrees in the prison system anymore
1 like@B0t15 you got that right 🙂
0 likes@sarah itd be better if they didnt acknowledge him. They held methadone out there like a reward if he talkeed. I once told a booking officer id be soon withdrawing from heroin and methadone and he laughed at me and said, "Well good luck with that. Now get the fuck out of my face."
0 likes@Angela Blanchard I understand some facilities are not well maintained or tend to treat patients like criminals even when they're there voluntarily, however most aren't California beach homes with massage therapy and horseback riding. There are so many facilities that provide great care, counseling, and accommodations to addicts that can help you and work with state funded programs to provide financial support. State Healthcare put me through medical detox, paid for my meds, and offered a 30 day inpatient stay at the top rehabilitation center in the state. You have options girl.
1 like@Phillip Pasteur Thanks Phillip, every comment means a lot to me. I hope you have a great day
0 likes@John Johnson in the USA can you get your methadone in jail and slowly detoxed as we do in western Europe/ U.K?
0 likes@Holly Olsen Thanks Holly. Hope you are doing well and have a nice day sending my ❤ ❤ to you 🙂
1 like@Lucas Clift Thanks Lucas, hope you are doing well.
0 likes@Lafayette Moore Congratulations. At the time I write this I'm praying you've got your first seven days behind you. If not, don't beat yourself up please. We are human beings who suffer from a recognised illness so don't see a relapse as a failing on your part. I know it's so hard I've been there so many times saying "this is the last time" but you CAN do it. Praying for you.
0 likes@Jonathan Awe😊♥️Thank you so much!
0 likes“We have a lot of physical evidence”
2201 likes“Like what”
stutteres “Why should I tell you that”
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An honest cop would say "If we ain't got it, we'll plant it!" xD
79 likesBill A lmao they just didn’t have the time
7 likesto plant anything yet thats why he didn’t know XD
@Bill A An honest cop would be disgusted by your lack of respect for the honest work they do. A dirty cop that tells the truth would say they'd plant it.
5 likes@Jezzda2 < Sorry if you misunderstood the humor/oximoron. The problem nowadays is that folks are overly sensitive over anything. Next!
22 likesBill you need too be arrested if you’re doing this and are a cop.
0 likesWhen he said that I was like how the TF is that not important? That "not so important" evidence determines what happens to my life -_-
1 like@Jezzda2 no such thing as an honest cop. All police infringe on liberties.
0 likesI came down to the comments to see if one of yall knew what happened to Jeff. Cause yall know everything down here
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I’m stocking the comments because I can’t access my account that is in the description SO…..YES that very much makes me conceded (spelling questionable on my part)
0 likesWhat about that butterfinger you promised me? Lol
0 likes"You have the right to remain silent"
3145 likesliterally a minute later"YES OR NO, TALK TO ME!!"
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Reminds me of my younger days when I’m getting into trouble by my parents- you want me to shut up or talk 🤣🤷🏽♀️😂
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2 likesokthis mad me lol... lol
3 likesYou have the right to choose wheather or not you answer. That doesnt mean they wont ask you any questions.
10 likes@Jacob Hargiss lol why did you feel the need to explain that??
15 likes@Goin GOLD to point out that it isnt a contradiction.
4 likes@Alex Briggs thanks, I always get the 2 mixed up.
3 likes@Alex Briggs Aww there was no need to call him an idiot. He seems so nice ☹️
13 likes@Jacob Hargiss wheather isnt even a word, its either weather or whether
1 like@JD exactley, I get the incorrect spelling confused with the correct spelling. Then I get those 2 confused with the homophpne and its incorrect spelling.
1 likeLong story short, me and the written english language have been long term adversaries. But a great deal of that has to do with the fact that I am more often than not completely and utterly wasted when I write these replies (as is the case in this instance).
@Jacob Hargiss that explains a lot actually
1 like@Fabiana Moura ikr that was unnecessary he seems like a cool guy...
1 like@Fabiana Moura nah, its alright. Sometimes I am indeed an idiot. This is just one of those times.
1 like@Jacob Hargiss
4 likesYou're not an idiot bud your responses confirm that, you took the guy's correcting you like a prick with class.
@Jacob Hargiss Nah man, don't put yourself down like that. If having issues with the English language bothers you, you can simply study and get better at it. The fact that a person isn't an expert on any particular subject doesn't make them an idiot at all 🙂
1 like@maju Yup, just another cyberbully that one
0 likes@AlexanderThe Great Heck yeah 👏👏👏
0 likes@Fabiana Moura im not really putting myself down, Im just being honest. I make dumb mistakes and act like an idiot some times. Sometimes its because I dont pay enough attention to what Im doing, other times its because I choose to do things that I am in no condition to do (such as writting a reply when Im not all there). I try to be honest with myself and others and when I make mistakes that are easily avoidable I try to hold myself accountable so I have an opportunity to learn.
2 likesAnd its not the spelling mistake that makes me know I was being an idiot, but that I was arrogant enough not to look over my work before submitting it. I know mistakes happen, but only a fool trusts themselves enough not to double check, and thats exactly what I did.
@Fabiana Moura thank you for your kind words though. Its rare to see on the internet.
2 likes@Jacob Hargiss I understand, but still, that doesn't give people the right to cyberbully. And don't worry too much about your mistakes. Even if you make them again and again, one day little by little you'll learn with them and be able to be more aware of what you should and shouldn't do/say. I wish you the best of luck 😊
1 like@Jacob Hargiss You're welcome, bro!
0 likes🤜🤛
@Jacob Hargiss You're a good guy, I was needlessly vile.
1 likeApologies my friend, I was having a bad day
@Alex Briggs its all good, no apologies necessary. We all get that way from time to time.
0 likesAnyway, thanks for the consideration.
"I have enough evidence, of armed robbery"
2931 likesjeff laughs
What a savage
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What a save!
39 likesWhat a save!
What a save
What a save!
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@Local GC in 1s xD
4 likes@Local GC in 1s you got no life
0 likes@jo ice you seem to not have one either, if you choose to call out others without reason.
4 likes@Klonzo33 looks like you don’t either then
0 likes@jo ice uno reverse
0 likestime stamp?
0 likes@juneee 11:18
1 likeA movie should be made about his life with Christian Bale as him :P
0 likesI couldn't stop laughing. You gotta admit he's likable.
220 likesI liked the way he blew his nose when he was being read his rights. And how politely he put his tissue in the bin.
719 likesJeff is a good guy. I hope he’s OK.
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Reminds me of will Ferrell puking in the waste basket in the federal reserve.
2 likeshe is. he has a youtube channel
14 likes@Ani Natch source/link?
2 likes@Ani Natch where is da link
2 likesNvm I found it
0 likes@just a human being well??? What is it
0 likes@just a human being what is it ?
0 likesHis page in the description, guys. :3
4 likesSlap head chozzer ain't that clever is he
0 likesOnce a person says, "I want a lawyer", that should be the end of the interview. I live in a country which not only "reads" people their rights but also respects those rights, regardless of what crime someone's been arrested for.
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Yeah! Like, what's the magic number of times he needs to say he wants a lawyer before they get him one?
108 likeswhich country do you live in?
4 likes@Ami Ledlow He's from Bofa
37 likes@OdysseyK don’t you dare
37 likeswhat country?
0 likes@boule de glace You're the kinda guy to go to saw con
6 likes@Average Alien Mr alien what is saw con?
6 likes@Average Alien hahaha
6 likesi lIvE iN a cOuNtRy
11 likes@Average Alien underrated comment
2 likes@boule de glace saw con deez nutz
9 likes@I was never given a name. I waited 1 week for this.
10 likesOnce you've said you want the lawyer, it's not like his rights are being violated by not having a lawyer magically appear five seconds later -- it's just his statements stop being admissible until the lawyer shows up.
6 likes@TransRoofKorean shur up
0 likes@TransRoofKorean We were talking about nuts n' shit in this comment string. You've ruined it... Goblin...
4 likesNo you don't lol
0 likesIt doesn’t mean that he can’t still ask questions
0 likesIt depends on the state you live in. This would not be tolerated in most states in the U.S.
0 likesI fuckin love Jeff. My FUCKIN boy
0 likesIf paying taxes means Jeff can get himself a Coke, it's not a bad deal.
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Man you gotta love this guy. I hope and pray he gets clean and has a successful life. He actually sounds like just a good old boy on heroin. The cops actually appear stupid in the video. They also show how dishonest they are in pushing for a confession from someone who has repeatedly asked for a lawyer which they didn't provide but rather kept reading his miranda rights and got mad when he chose to be silent. This was better than a movie.
117 likesYes! I would gladly buy jeff a coke😁
21 likessame
2 likes@Km Fox Yes, and when that clip is incorporated into some cop show or movie, he’ll be made to look like he admitted guilt because he exercised his civil rights and asked for the lawyer he’s entitled to
10 likesOne of the better comments on the Internet right here
0 likes😂
1 likeWham Bahm… Thanks for the coke.
6 likes😂😂😂😂 he wd be like oooh that tastes good
1 like@Km Fox well he has a YouTube channel now so he must be doing slightly better
2 likes@Dino boi looking for them nuggies Good to know. People can change.
0 likes@St. Vodou Not necessarily. Yes, some people will think that, but the rest of us will see how foolish the cops would be acting.
1 like@Km Fox If they refuse to provide you a lawyer when you've asked for it several times, that's how you know they've screwed up.
2 likesS
0 likesEspecially if our taxes paid for the cameras that recorded the glorious behavior of this great, great man.
3 likesYea but the interrigators got a lot more tax money than a coke
0 likesHahaha that was damn funny
0 likes@Dino boi looking for them nuggies what is it called???
0 likes@Fafa it’s in the description if I’m correct.
1 like@Dino boi looking for them nuggies yup description and pinned comment
0 likes10:11 Detective: "Tastes good? (referring to Coke)."
1 likeJeff: "Yeah, tastes better during an interrogation."
@Dev04 Coca-cola should hire Jeff for ads.
1 like@Michael I can imagine. Jeff: "Stay away from coke, do Coca-Cola instead."
1 likewholesome point.
0 likes@Km Fox The cop having to ask what he uses Methadone for drove me fucking insane. Have they never dealt with addicts before? Fucking christ almighty.
1 likeFinding it difficult to dislike this guy.
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6 minutes in and I’m like “I love this guy”
96 likesImpossible!!
8 likesMe too
2 likesYou can tell from across the atlantic that this guy isn't proud of anything in his life. He has given up, he has accepted his belief that he's beyond help and just wants to be left alone until he dies from his habits. He's most likely a lovely dude to be around when he's not out of heroin and needs to find ways to get more, and he's fully aware that he's a failure.
51 likesThis guy doesn't want to be this way, he wants to be normal but knows/believes he can't, so what's the point of even trying?
I'd help this guy any day of the week.
@Eman Egnarts he's sober now. #wedorecover
28 likes@Catalina Winemixer That's great. Always like to hear something like that.
14 likes@craig Mills you're making this assumption based on what?
9 likes@Dick Fitzwell I get that vibe too.
8 likesThe analysis of why we like the antihero is missing the obvious trait that they don't bow down to societal pressure; they do what the fuck they want.
4 likesum no
1 likeyou aren't supposed to dislike him, he's the protagonist of earth
5 likesyou don't have to!
1 like@The Lea I always find it ironic how most people tend to give the benefit of the doubt towards addicts as to the type of people they were/are/can be if they weren't addicts that are currently using. I don't know if it's due to being just a common sentiment, or if it's because such low-lifes when they're using, that it's just assumed that they can't be any worse, or other reasons.
1 likeI say this from personal experience that while it's true that most people who are actively on a run, they're SO beyond what's acceptable behavior, then when they do get clean they're MUCH better people than they are while they're using, but i know a lot of addicts, both recovering, long term recovered, or actively using that were assholes before they started, and went back to being one after. I also think there comes a point that no matter how good of a person someone may have been before, they've been using and acting like addicts for so long, that they're just not that person anyone and never will be, regardless of getting clean.
Im not directing this towards the commenter specifically, it just happens to be that 1 out of countless that make the same assertion.
I will point out however that i think (and believe many others who have firsthand experience with it), that often times the particular drug that someone gets addicted to can suggest the type of personality they are. This is a very general statement, but people who get addicted to heroine or other opioids are different people than those who have cocaine issues. It's also quite common that MANY opioid addicts tend to not drink. Most of the opioid addicts i know, including myself, don't drink at all. However drinking tends to turn into an issue after giving up heroine or opioids (fortunately, after 12-13 years, i still probably consume a bottle of wine every 2 years, if that).
I believe that MANY of those people either use, or started using, as self-medicating. I think that someone can have substance abuse issues that are mostly self-medication, and that they don't really match with the current definition of "addict." These are the people who can have ravenous addictions for years, but at some point make an active attempt to get clean, and are able too more successfully.
I consumed copious amounts opioids for several years. When i finally said i had enough, i went to a detox, then upon getting out i sought out treatment. I didn't go into rehab, i went on Suboxone and therapy. That was it, that was way over q decade ago. While i won't say that i never took anything recreationally in that time, i will say that my addiction was never the problem that it had been. The way it went for me is FAR from how it normally goes. I know people who've been in detox over 100 times, and been to in-patient rehab dozens of times and still are using. The fact that it took only once for me leads me to believe that while from the outside, and to myself, i was an addict in the clinical sense, in reality it was something else
Perhaps because of the way he is framed in this youtube video. If you are introduced to the same person after it seems obvious he murdered a child while breaking in your feelings might be different.
1 likehe had every guy hoping for him to drop the soap
1 like@Wouter Kulche Are you aware that those circumstances would make jesus christ himself look pretty sus?
0 likes"Well yeah he seems nice but like, if he murdered a child that would be lame"
Really?d'ya think?
@Ben Fennell
1 likeYou seemed to misunderstand me.
If I show you an black and white picture of a man and tell you he is a nazi than you will probably find his eyes devilish, if i instead told you he was a resistance member who saved many people from the nazis you would probably say that he has heroic angelic features.
This phenomenon is very important for people to know because it helps them to judge people better (or not to judge) at all.
I'm trying to understand what you mean with your response. You don't understand what I mean? You admit it but don't like this fact?
@Wouter Kulche This observation just seems extremely obvious to me, of course you would look at someone differently based on what you know they've done, sorry I should have used /s.
0 likes@Ben Fennell ah, we agree. Thanks
1 likeFACT
0 likesYup, I kinda love Jeff
0 likes“What about that butter fingers you promised me?”
651 likesOnly a legend can be concerned about that while in jail
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especially while dopesick
23 likes😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesJust a reunion
0 likesJason, or he knew he was getting out... a little psychological mindtrick.
5 likesThe best part 🤣🤣
0 likesD: “What time did you get to Aaron’s house?”
2574 likesJeff: “I know anything I say would be used against me.”
A very smart man .
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@Connie Harrison No. It's a debilitating cycle. Often the most they can hope for is to learn how to survive in it. Escape is a pipe dream.
57 likes@Connie Harrison So you need to be a criminal to know your rights?
9 likesIf he were smart, he would say absolutely nothing. Don't talk to cops.
6 likes@Connie Harrison You can judge him on his decisions but you don't know his circumstance.. The intelligence that is displayed here is the accurate judgement of social situations and psychological fortitude, you can be a good guy all your life and not be "smart" like Jeff.
33 likesJeff is street smart. Everybody here shitting on him ain't never dealt with law or addiction or they wouldn't be like "smart people don't do this"
17 likesfunny cause the police tell you "everything you say can and will br used against you" but some people talk anyways.
4 likes@Davey :D your head is paining you. Werey
1 like@BPLove it’s called intuition
0 likesA smart man wouldve said no comment from the get go
0 likesU it kxs
0 likes@Xyjff when did I say I was impressed? I was simply correcting someone probably y they deleted the comment
1 likeWorking for coke! LmFao 😂
0 likesSoooo, it's legal to badger a prisoner for 12 hours, that has repeatedly stated "nothing to say" without legal representation, during a interrogation?
451 likesDon't talk to cops.
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24 hours for most crimes, 36 to 96 for more serious crimes. Time is on the suspect's side, not the police's side, which is why they do everything they can to lock it down while they have the narrow window. If they really had all the time in the world like they want to make it seem, they wouldn't be hanging on the bell wanting to talk day and night with the suspect.
6 likesYeah, and pretend to be "good guys" that brought him a coke after sitting there 5 hr... or offer a butterfinger for talking. "Well give you a butter finger if you convict yourself" WHAT
26 likesYa havent heard enough stories or seen alot of cases. Also, whats acceptable for them to do during an integration varies from state to state, hell even county to county.
0 likesThis police are not the enemy here, jeff, i guess has been comitting crime to fund his habit for years, like i did. Heroin habit needs money and people like me cause mayhem for the police, its not personal, i found the police in the uk to be more than fair
0 likes“Do you understand your rights Jeff?”
6112 likesJeff: 🗿
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exactly
11 likes🗿
45 likesVery original, I lol'd! Cheers!
5 likes😂
1 likePobedaV I saw the emoji being used on another video on same channel 😂 but the joke is mine lol
0 likes😂
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesNose laugh
3 likesbruhaps
0 likesBruhaps
0 likesHe did say "you have the right to remain silent"
18 likesHe's just exercising his right lmaoo
6 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likesunderated 😂
0 likesLmfao
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1 likeMy boy ain’t even talkin 😂
0 likes"mah name is jeff"
0 likesDon't insult the moai with this crackhead, they don't even have cracks in they heads 🤣
0 likes@Stock Name most of the moai in Easter island have their heads intact brodie i'm from Chile
0 likes👏 You actually found a use for that emoji.
0 likes@Dustin McCoy lol when?
0 likesLike how Jeff just drinking their coke and beg to go back to the cell jajajajajajajajajaja
0 likesYou can tell he's talked at other points in his life and they used it against him. That's why you don't talk to the police without a lawyer. Just tell them you want a lawyer and then remain silent. The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the police can lie to you anytime they want to. And they do lie. Ever been pulled over for a traffic stop and the cop starts saying things like, "Where you comin' from?" or "Where you goin'?" or "What are you up to?" They want to start a conversation with you so you will slip up and tell them something. But the law is very strict on what the cops can and can't do so stand up for your rights. If you don't use them you lose them. This poor guy is in heroin withdrawl but he still stands up for his rights. I've been around people kicking heroin and he is about to go into terrible pain and agony and he knows it. But he still stands up for his rights.
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I've taught my kids to never talk to police without a lawyer
28 likesOkay, but I've only been pulled over when going 10+ mph over the speed limit. Sometimes we should admit when we fuck up.
8 likesWell the second sentence in Miranda rights to anyone with a brain says anything you tell them not just can but WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU! There’s a reason it’s worded like that
17 likesOr maybe don’t involve yourself in felony crimes and you won’t have to be questioned by the police!
6 likesLucky, he gets himself out of it so he can get back to his sweet sweet heroin... ;)
1 like@Steve Cascio smooth brain
8 likesNothing wrong with a bit of heroin every now and then.. it's the best buzz of everything out there.. Infact, I'm gonna go get some now soon as dealer gets back to me.. it's my day off, why not?
3 likes@Steve Cascio He wasn't involved in a felony crime. They let him go the next morning.
7 likes@iostboy Why? Because I pointed out that cops lie?
1 like@aaronwallerj I can't do that. If i did that I'd be back in my personal hell of heroin addiction by Monday. I just can't stop once i start.
3 likes@aaronwallerj Bc once your body needs it you're screwed. Your body can get physically dependent on heroin after just one dose. If you're not already dependent on it, you will be soon. If you want a buzz on your day off take some kratom or something. Seriously, you can use it daily without serious problems. It's not great for you but it's infinitely better than heroin. 42 kids I went to high school with have died of OD's since I graduated. Nearly all of them were "part time users". All of them were experienced with other drugs and they all thought they had it under control. One of them told me "I just need to get this out of my system, I won't be doing this when I'm older." He died a year later. Another one told me "gotta try everything once before you die". He died a few weeks later. Nearly all of them came from good families. Nearly all of them could have gone to rehab. All of them lived in one of the nicest towns in the US with all the available resources necessary to help them beat addiction. But not one of them did. Don't let it get that far. If you want a little buzz take kratom or literally any other drug besides heroin or you will end up an addict.
4 likes@Falling Petunias I was pulled over for going 70 when I was going 15 under that. Went to court and the cop never showed up - he was just trying to bully someone else into a ticket. What am I gonna do in the moment, tell him I wasn't going 70? It's stupid to argue, but cops are there to screw you over a lot of the time. Not to say they don't do good work.
3 likesThey cant lie "anytime they want to". It has to come from reasonable suspicion, or in the course of an interrogation.
1 likeSteve Cascio oh you sweet naive boy
5 likesOliver Von arx Constitutionally it should be inadmissible but our government finds ways to admit should be inadmissible sh*t all the time!!! Smh!
0 likesfamouslastwords 2019 Don’t listen to that cruel attempt for a joke. Stay strong my brother 🙏🙏
0 likesPointsofData but they do
0 likesCenk Zappa ~You cannot get addicted trying heroin a single time. That’s just the stupidest thing ever. It’s true you don’t need to do it daily to become addicted; it’s a called a chippie habit. If you do it say, every two weeks, you will eventually need it every two weeks. I’d wager that most of the deaths your talking about were from heroin laced will fentanyl. Fentanyl is the real culprit. It’s a cheap way to boost the strength, but it’s strong as fuck and people don’t realize just how strong.
0 likesThis Ladies & Gentlemen is how, no matter your innocence or guilt, you handle a Police Interview/Interrogation.
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@savvy Wilson he did ask for a lawyer
49 likes@savvy Wilson He asked for a lawyer multiple times.
39 likesThey never want you to just come in and talk. You could be telling your story then it's too late before you realize they're pinning this on you no matter what
16 likes@/X/EN cops tell u not to talk to cops
5 likes@/X/EN You should never talk to the police. They aren't your friend.
6 likes@/X/EN It's literally what any lawyer worth their weight in dirt would tell you.
3 likesNope. He should only have said "I want a lawyer". That's it.
1 likeAbsolutely never talk to police. You’re a name on a paper, and the second you walk into that prison, they’ll never give a thought to your life again. They can have a lazy day, and they can have an ulterior motive, like covering for another buddy cop, and they can manipulate you into doing whatever they want. Demand a lawyer. End of conversation.
2 likesLeopard Boas even if you're innocent you shouldn't talk to police. They will twist their questions and have you incriminate yourself unknowingly and when you try to change your answer during a trial and say you were confused at the question, they will bring up the interview and say, "well you never said you were confused in the interview, so you're lying." This has been done many times over.
2 likes@Leopard Boas Lol, because the world is totally binary. By that logic, if I choose not to talk to police, does that automatically mean that I've got something to hide?
2 likesHow about that butterfinger you promised
0 likesSo is loki an antihero?
0 likesCop: why won’t you talk to us? We’ve got evidence against you.
1464 likesJeff: what you got?
Cop: not telling.
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it's an interrogation technique where they make it seem as if they evidence, in most cases a lot of it, in the hopes that you'll confess for the crime.
74 likes@man iPreferChicken yeah but what would that be called?
1 like@man iPreferChicken Yeah, they're usually gunning for a confession because they don't have enough evidence to convict on that, alone. Jeff seems to know this.
18 likes@Leo Wunderlich Cops are legally allowed to lie to you and say they have evidence linking you to a crime in hopes you confess, they call it a "ruse."
18 likes@Leo Wunderlich It's called lying
13 likes@Christian Carrillo police are not allowed to do this in UK however.
10 likes@heres johnny police don't have to be truthful when obtaining evidence relative to a case, they use lies an disinformation all the time if they think it'll help the case. For example: "we can prosecute you for obstructing an officer in his line of investigation" when you won't give them any personal details or the code to unlock your phone is one I've had thrown at me, they can't prosecute on those grounds.
4 likesHe asked for a lawyer, this conversation shouldnt be taking place.
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Yeah, so anything after that period is basically useless info, but let's face it, Jeff pulled through and didn't tell em shit!
195 likesThe first reply by "constantnipples" deserves more likes than the second, by "Kutsuro"
13 likes@Ricicici 33 I disagree
19 likesTHiS
1 like@Ricicici 33 Nah, this is ok the way it is.
1 likeBetter to stay in there if you’re Jeff. Unless he knows for a fact he can score dope in lockup he’s better off starting withdrawal in that room . Get to drink some coke and candy, go from there.
7 likeshe said he's just doing it for the coke lol
14 likesHe just wanted Cokes.
3 likesCop said "You asked to speak to me, i didn't call you here." that's when he said he only came for the coke
5 likesAn explanatory subtitle stated that he had offered to talk for a Coke and a Butterfinger.
2 likes@Brooklynyte a small price to pay for
1 likea coke
@Jon Evans you probably couldn’t even do what you are proposing, a heroin withdrawal in a holding cell has to be the worst thing on earth
1 likeHe was doing just enough to keep the coke flowing 🤣
1 like@bernier alexandre you either didn’t mean to respond to me or misunderstood what I wrote. I have been in Jeff’s shoes to the extent of suffering from withdrawal, several times. If given the choice between an interrogation room and a cell, there’s no debate which I’m taking and I believe Jeff felt the same. It’s hard to suffer those symptoms at a damn rehab facility
0 likes@Jon Evans i really don’t see how withdrawals in a cell or jail is good
1 likeIdeally but unfortunately not always reality
0 likes@Kutsuro God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!) 🥰🤍
1 likeHe can ask for a lawyer and they can still interrogate him until one shows up he just doesn’t have to respond. It’s a stupid rule but America is stupid so lol
0 likes@Kelsey when this happens and it did already it’s not admissible in court
0 likesJeff good luck get off the mud. Stay smart.
0 likeshe's a charismatic guy, a shame he's trapped in abuse.
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I'm a recovering Heroin addict. I found many addicts were really charming and intelligent.
12 likes@DinkleDigeroo even the smartest person can be conned my dude
7 likesIntelligence doesn't mean you aren't naive, trusting, inexperienced or unaware
I really hope that man got clean and is living his best life
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Yooooooo
377 likes@Pickel Boi sup sup sup sup sup
461 likesYou know for sure he's not clean he is a goddamn badass though I love this video
784 likes@Frizzurd Qqq
16 likes@Dankest Ranch 😂😂
18 likes@emma "just an addict", let's not talk about jeff in particular but being an addict doesn't justify crimes. idk whether jeff did it or not but he did commit crimes before, the guy is a criminal. can you forgive him? probably. if the crimes were more serious and against you, would you be able to forgive him? probably not. don't be a hero when it doesn't involve you.
257 likesWith the.....Corona Virus?!?!
1 like@Order of the Warlocks yooooooooo
14 likes@Pickel Boi ayyyyy
10 likes@Frizzurd You'll never be as chadly as jeff is
38 likes@Brandon Sisk omg 4 real whats the name. so nice to hear hes clean <3 addiction is the worst!
15 likesOrder of the Warlocks only realistic comment in the entire bunch..ok root for the underdog..but these guys doing the interviews..they are up to here
2 likesHe had a YouTube channel
5 likes@retroFIX Gaming no he didn't. You don't die from heroin withdrawal
107 likesretroFIX Gaming Prove it
1 likeGuys I told you he has a youtube channel the link is posted under one of the comment threads
33 likesThey have to be to scrounge up $2 grand everyday.
1 likeIsn't the term "based"?
0 likesDankest Ranch 😭😭😭
0 likesSteven Farmer no
0 likesHe looks like blake from blake's exotic animals
3 likesHe works with the cole company
1 like@emma ummm...actually: criminal=hurt someone. Your welcome.
7 likeshe stopped robbing people but im pretty sure hes not clean
3 likesCheck out the update! Oh man!
0 likesI got a better Idea. Why don't they stop with the war on drugs bull shit and put a stop to 99% of the problem. allow them to just buy pharmaceutical grade morphine or hydromorphone (morphine is 1/2 as potent as heroin and hydromorphone is 1.5-2 times as potent as heroin, roughly). At the pharmacy level morphine is roughly 20-25$ per 50mg/20ml vial. So each vial contains 1 gram of IV morphine in solution for 20-25$ without insurance. I'm not up on black market prices but I strongly suspect it isn't anywhere near 20$ a gram (or 40$ a gram if you figure they need to buy twice as much morphine as they would heroin). Hydromorphone is less common so harder to price but I suspect it would be similar. If the addict can maintain his addiction with a Mcdonalds income then there is no need for him to make failed robbery attempts, and it saves the rest of us the cost of putting him in jail.
52 likesAnd if they can buy it from legit sources then suddenly the dealers and smugglers lose all of that income and go out of business (or more likely kill each other and thin out the competition as they switch to alternative business models).
This has the added benefit of not constantly making life harder and harder on chronic pain patients who constantly have to deal with proving that really, no really, they are not addicts multiple times a year (they actually have to take a pee test to make sure they have the drug in their system. how upside down is that?!).
@Kim Hoge that depends entirely on how much you're using and how much you've fucked up your body. It is 100% to die from heroin withdrawal or any other opiate withdrawal. Dehydration, elevated blood sodium levels, heart failure. The way these cops and alot of "health care professionals" treat people, especially addicts, means they could've left him in the cell and he could've died. Considering he's probably stealing to fund his habit means he could be doing enough to have those complications if left alone without supervision or help but I don't think he's dead or even on drugs today. You can die from alot of stupid shit and alot of shit that shouldn't be deadly tho
17 likes@Turbo Cateye you think stealing to fund his habit means that he's doing enough to die from overdose? Farrrrr from it. You'll get dope sick as fuck, but heroin withdraw itsself will not kill you.
3 likesMitchell Trubisky
2 likesDammit Mitch, you just focus on your throwing game… Spending too much time watching YouTube. LOL JK
He is likely not clean
1 likeretroFIX Gaming you can’t die from Heroin withdrawal
0 likesOrder of the Warlocks ahahahaha
0 likesThis guy's right out of a movie.
38 likes"You playing the good cop?"
'no, I'm usually the prick.'
"Yeah you look like a prick."
I don't think a veteran screen writer could be write better dialog.
@Dankest Ranch gg
0 likes@AngryLittleSpider _ speeding tickets are criminal offences.
15 likesWho do speeders hurt if theyve hurt nobody?
@bp968 You are talking like people are not abusing substances that are legal.
4 likes@Tactical Bacon he's charged with robbery, isn't that immoral?
0 likesHe teaches people all over the world how to be a badass in an interrogation apparently
2 likes“don't be a hero when it doesn't involve you.“ a coward’s prayer
6 likesYou can die from your body shutting down and severe dehydration CAUSED by opiate withdrawal. You can die from cold turkey withdrawal, hence the methadone usage.
19 likesSide note, the guy going thru "multiple ones" should totally be the credited; clearly cleaned system to have multiple go's (unless a helper position, but it reads as you've gone thru em).
Dude has 10+ years of use and you think you can just stop, be sick a few days and be fine? Study the change of body and brain due to chemical usage, maybe?
Safe wishes and just dont do it (or the rx route)
@AvgDude even career addicts don't do 2k worth of dope a day. People with severe heroin addictions have described purchasing 10 to 15 bags of the drug per day. the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) reported the average price of heroin in the U.S. was $152 per gram (which is usually divided into 20 bags). So ballpark around 500 a week
2 likes@Frizzurd a drug addiction is not a moral issue
0 likes@cracker gaming Hey you never know! You would’ve probably said the same thing about me a year ago but here I am alive, well and sober and amazing things are happening in my life that I never thought would be possible.
4 likes@Frizzurd so u must be Jesus 😂
0 likes@Kim Hoge actually recent studies have found you can die from heroin withdrawal. It causes serious heart problems. Due to the stress, adrenaline and more. It rare but it's been basically proven possible.
6 likesHe's clean and got a YouTube channel now : D
2 likes@Sorroren CHADLY
0 likes@retroFIX Gaming please tell me this is a joke
1 likePretty sure he is. He's got a channel called Syringe Music and just bought a house from what I understand. He's a real decent guy it seems.
3 likes@cracker gaming yes he is
0 likes@Tony Momom what crime did he commit? You don't know his life? Besides some laws are ridiculous and innocent people go to jail all the time. Stop being so damn judgemental. Who cares if someone is a "criminal". In one state someone can go to jail for pot and be a criminal while in another state it's not criminal. Being a "criminal" doesn't necessarily make you a bad person. Our justice system is whack.
8 likes@æd en pik Syringe Music is his YouTube Channel
0 likes@Frizzurd addicts aren't terrible people just for being addicts
9 likes@Frizzurd jokes on you I am 😚✌🏻
0 likesHe has a YT channel ^^ He seems to be doing fine, its in the description :)))
0 likesI think this thread is a shining exhibition that Jeff is indeed, undoubtedly, and Antihero, through-and-through
5 likes@AngryLittleSpider _ not inherently, not all crimes are violent,
4 likesHe did
0 likes@emma he said for the same thing so it was probably armed robbery
1 like@bp968 then their whole system collapses and all the cops, lawyers and judges are out of work. They arnt giving up their budgets.
3 likesI am starting to feel lucky again
0 likesHe sure is!
0 likesI highly doubt it, especially if he's been an addict for overv14 years
0 likes@æd en pik where did you see that info?
0 likes@AngryLittleSpider _
6 likesAh yes because shoplifting ends up in 3 dead and 14 injured
❤👍🏽
0 likesHe’s making music now
1 likePretty sure he is clean and producing music. He has a YouTube channel I believe.
1 likeHe has a house, a youtube channel, makes music, not sure about being clean tho, but seems like it. It seems like our antihero, at last, has got his life back on rails.
1 likeHe has a yet channel
0 likes@AngryLittleSpider _ ah yes. The guy caught with an eighth of weed hurt so many people.
6 likes@Order of the Warlocks the boooooyyyyssss
0 likes@jeffrey melton looking at his YouTube channel he is actually clean.
1 likeI have known at least 4 former heroin addicts that have gotten themselves clean. Staying clean.
Only smoking weed and having a social drink.
@UHDGamers 2015 That is good to hear. really. however that weed smoking and social drinking is like playing with fire tho
3 likes@emma while addiction hasn't been an issue in my day to day life for 12-13 years, but still remembers it and knows people who still are, i feel that it needs to be said that the idea of someone being a bad person or low life and/or being an addict are not mutually exclusive. There are many people that were world class a-holes before they were addicts, and many who remain them long after recovery.
0 likesBeyond that, when people are living as addicts, many of them really are terrible, and do terrible things. The question as to "why" they're doing really only matters to them. If your house is robbed or you get mugged at knife point (or dirty needle point, which tends to happen to people working in liquor or convenience stores), the life story of the person robbing you really matters very little.
If someone was a decent person before they became addicts, but have spent the last 15 years doing the shitty things that addicts do; are they still decent people who are suffering from addiction? Maybe that's a question best left to philosophers, but there HAS to come a point when what you do is all that matters, and what resides in your heart really only matters to your mother and maybe Jesus if you believe in it.
Y?
0 likes@cracker gaming He's actually clean and owns a house now
0 likesHe is
0 likesMe too! Lol
0 likesDudea got a house and is free dont worry
0 likes@Order of the Warlocks i think he’s clean now
0 likesHe is homie don’t worry clean with his own house and job
0 likesUh update: checked out his YT channel 1/18/21 & you can tell he is on some hard drug. :( Praying for him.
0 likes@Haley Block link?
0 likes@emma He was arrested for armed robbery before. To me, that means he is not a good person. But what do I know.
2 likes@Turbo Cateye He is definitely still on drugs. It is not 100% if you go through opiate withdrawal you will die. Where did that come from?
0 likes@Cursed Kiwi He was arrest for armed robbery at one time.
0 likes@emma people addicted to drugs are usually aggressive and steal and shit. So I don't feel bad for him. I feel bad for his family.
0 likes@emma eehhh drug convictions does affect other people. Do u even know how many died due to drug wars?
2 likes@kieras gaming channel tf is wrong with you boy???
0 likesWhy do they repeatedly talk to him without a lawyer, he asked for a lawyer.
3 likes🙏🏻
0 likesHe is ... he’s got a channel ....
0 likesHe had made a pact with his last cellmate... see how much coke and cake we can get in interrogations lol...
0 likes@emma I woudl say "Armed robbery" does harm/hurt anyone
0 likes@cracker gaming he is clean actually and has a YouTube channel that JCS pinned and links to.
0 likesHe's a heroin addict, for 14 years you're delusional if you think he's gonna change lmao😭
0 likesOn his YouTube channel he posted a video about suboxone so hopefully he’s doing well. I know some people say it’s just trading one addiction for another, but it saved my life & many others. Not having to stick myself with a needle is a huge plus too. To some addicts, the needle becomes an addiction on its own.
4 likesYea me too, the wise jeff deserves to be free of jail and heroin
0 likes@Order of the Warlocks reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
0 likesJim posted dudes youtube and patreon in the comment section
0 likesNews Flash he didn't
0 likes@Living Sacred Cacti he did check his youtube bro ...
0 likes@Kim Hoge Umm actually you absolutely can😬🤦🏻♀️😑🤷🏻♀️💯
0 likesOrder of the Warlocks: I hope this for every human being.
0 likes@Bill Wilson 100%
1 likeHope so but doubt it o.o addiction is hard hope he does tho
1 likeOr at least i hope he went out like a fucking legend.
0 likesnah, i met jeff hes out in cali jails now, didnt believe him until now, he told me to look him up when i got out. forgot til now. sorry jeff.
0 likes@emma its tough man. I hope he goes to the clinic. Methadone or Suboxone. It depends on your daily use.
0 likesHe is hunter Bidens sponsor now
0 likesZero chance of that happening
0 likesI hope he's leading the life he wants too.
0 likes@AngryLittleSpider _ criminal=broke law and was convicted. Yw.
0 likesWanna see jeff's status now? This is his channel
0 likeshttps://youtu.be/ulYvX4eloUI
He has a YouTube. Check the description for the link.
0 likesHuh?
0 likes@Kim Hoge I think it’s extremely rare to die from opioid withdrawal ,however it can lead to death.A young man from my old neighborhood ended up in jail on theft charges,the copper looked in his cell and the young man was convulsing then went unresponsive,so he was hit twice with narcan (thinking he overdosed).only he was in severe heroin withdrawals and his heart gave out.
0 likesHahaha unlikely
0 likesRedFoxx or a Tyrone like u
0 likes@Tony Momom if you cant forgive a criminal why have jail?
1 likeWhy not just execute them sense in your mind they're going to reoffend?
Not everyone can be saved but some can. That's hope.
1 likeMe too
0 likesRelapse is the ONLY way to od from heroin withdraw... Someone relapses because the symptoms of their withdrawal are too much to deal with. But it’s usually someone who’s been clean for long enough to lose their tolerance that relapses and tries to shoot the same size shot they use to do in active addiction that od.
0 likes@Brandon Smythe He's not dead, he just uploaded 2 hours ago.
0 likesYea 15 years later
0 likesWgaf. Some people want to get high and we shouldn’t stigmatize them for that.
1 like@Champigne quit coping. Heroin is very self destructive. My town is losing people daily because of it
1 likeSadly, they almost never get clean, not for long at least.
0 likesMe too, my heart went out to him
0 likes@emma I think we will find many of gods children in our addicted world, including alcohol addictions but maybe not sugar
0 likes@yeetrootthebeetroot finally an answer (a good one even better) to me wondering what happened to him
0 likes@Tony Momom have you j walked before? Have you sped over the limit? Wam bam you’re a criminal son. We should judge you with the same level of callousness you want to judge “criminals.”
3 likes@bp968 you just said it was $25 per 50mg, which is really expensive. Probably a lot cheaper because oral morphine on the black market is cheaper. I know you were talking IV vials but 50mg is not going to get a heroin addict high or even stop their withdrawal for a while.
0 likes@Mr Liquid Devil judging by his youtube channel he’s doing pretty well
0 likes@Adora your math is wrong. Medical grade IV medications are packaged as X-mg per ML. So like i said in my comment, thats a gram for 20-25$. each ML contains 50mg and the vial contains 20ml of solution. Remember, milligram (mg) is a different measurement than milliliter (ml).
0 likesRooting for the antihero
0 likesIdk dude some people just got the heroin look and look badass
0 likesWith that attitude he's always living his best life 😎
0 likes@Order of the Warlocks huh
0 likesWww
0 likesOoooooo
0 likes@yeetrootthebeetroot YO HOLY CRAP ITS ACTUALLY HIM. ITS JEFF.
0 likesProbably serving the beginning of 15-20 years
0 likes@Dustin McCoy for real?
0 likesAnd working for Coca Cola
0 likes@Tony Momom I am a recovering addict and you have no idea how far desperation can get
1 like@Brandon Smythe unlikely
0 likes@Kim Hoge it is exceedingly rare
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0 likesIf I had to guess I'd think no to the first but yes to the second
0 likes@gemcutter187 hes on yt now
0 likesIkr
0 likes@Konichi What? I mean that I hope he's living the best he can in his life. Try to understand things before you make a fool of yourself
0 likes@AngryLittleSpider _ You can be labeled as a criminal even if you didn't hurt somebody lol but ight 🤔
0 likes@yeetrootthebeetroot thank you! :)
0 likesYe
0 likesJENKINS
0 likesI don‘t
0 likesI'm gonna set a more realistic hope - I really hope he's getting by day-to-day like the rest of us.
0 likes@Kim Hoge You can die from dehydration though, from all the puking and diarrhea. Some also go through a significant cardiac event and others may go through shock. Many people never seek medical attention due to fear of being arrested for illicit drug use and many more resort back to taking heroin to overcome the pain of it and end up overdosing. There are definitely real risks from withdrawal.
0 likes@Angela Jacobsen dying from dehydration is not dying from withdrawal.
0 likesHis best life? Or someone else's idea of his best life? I'm sure his idea of his best life is determined on the state of mind and/or location he is in. I just hope he stays out of trouble, or well stops being in the wrong place at the wrong time 🤣
0 likes@Thespirit his best life, quit projecting
1 like@Order of the Warlocks i can't it's my nature.
1 like@bp968 I am on pain management and not only do we have to do a drug test usually once a month, but every two weeks they do pill counts. If you forget your meds at home, I’ve done it once, they make you reschedule, don’t give you a prescription, and you usually have to wait 2-4 weeks for a new appointment so they can count your meds.. it’s fucking wild..
0 likes@Order of the Warlocks your right everyone deserves a second chance
0 likesIf he gets clean he could start his own YouTube channel cos he’s got a good following already
0 likes@Tony Momom ''if the crimes were more serious and against you, would you be able to forgive him? probably not.'' lol, you can stop projecting your moral condescension on everyone else at any time
0 likes@イカの嵐 (Storm Squid) YEA DUDEE
0 likes@Kim Hoge By that same logic you can't die from benzo withdrawals, you die from the seizures they cause. Pretty sure "withdrawal" is never the official cause of death; it's dehydration, organ failure, or whatever specific thing killed them.
0 likesSo yes, generally speaking of course you can die from heroin withdrawal. It's MUCH less likely than dying from benzo or alcohol w/d, but it is possible - especially if you have other health conditions. There have been several cases of heroin addicts dying in jail from withdrawals that I've read about.
Guess what
0 likes@emma doesn’t armed robbery tell you anything?
0 likes@cracker gaming you shouldn’t be calling an addict a “badass” it’s not cool in any way.
0 likesSame here. My best wishes go out to Jeff with regards to how things ended up. Addiction, especially when addicted to down, is a rough ride and getting clean is sooo worth it.
0 likesSadly, a very small % of heroin users ever get clean. After a decade, no chance.
0 likes@Lua no by science you can die from benzo withdrawal. By science you can't die from heroin withdrawal. Maybe a stroke like you said but not the withdrawal itself.
0 likesHow tf is a 6’5 male 153 lbs?
0 likesyou get free coke in interrogation
0 likesMoral of the story: don’t talk to the cops without a lawyer.
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unless you did the crime, then by all means spill your guts.
1 likeWord
0 likesOfficer: usually...im a prick
3419 likesJeff: you look like a prick!
THIS is Jeff
Nice introduction to the main character of the story
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I actually laughed out loud at that part of the video! 😂
53 likesI know right
4 likesSometime you can tell tho
1 likeIt was such a Borderlands type of intro. LOL
1 likeYup, first 30 seconds and I was sick of the cop.
1 likeI remembered that meme that says This is Jeff and then writes good quality of Jeff and then ends the meme with " be like Jeff".
0 likesJeff kicks ass
0 likesi really like jeff
0 likesAnti hero’s are always the best hero’s that’s a fact.
0 likesWe value Anti-heros because they reveal the absurdity of life around us. Jeff clearly knows his rights, but the process is held up because he refuses to say so. Contrast this with videos of naive, innocent, well-meaning getting sucked into charges for crimes they didn't commit. The absurdity is always there... the Jeff's of the world help us see it.
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nice comment
5 likesHow does someone telling the truth get them charged with crimes they didn't commit? Couldn't remaining silent also run that risk, if they have a perfectly good explanation? I know someone convicted of a crime for the latter reason. FWIW I am an attorney, just playing devil's advocate.
1 like@J D Police can trick you into saying something true, but that sounds incriminating. Like implying someone was shot without saying so explicitly, then if you say "I didn't shoot anyone" they can take that into court like "the client seemed to have prior knowledge". Or a cop misremembering that they mentioned to you prior some fact, you bring up that fact in later questioning, and they use that statement as evidence of prior knowledge. Or some part of your truthful statement could be contradicted by a credible witness with a false statement that the witness believes to be true. Or your best memory and explanation could be false in some way that can be proven false by police, rendering your true statement not credible while also incriminating you.
78 likesTHIS
0 likes@J D what you say to a detective CANNOT be used to exonerate you. Let that sink in... you tell the 100% truth, it matches sufficiently to the incorrect narrative they believe is true, and into jail you go. Don't take my word for it, I'm just repeating the advice of the US Supreme Court Justice and chief prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials Justice Jackson.
27 likesBeautiful and poetic.
0 likes@Richard Harris thanks for saying this 👍
0 likesSomeone should have given that advice to General Michael Flynn. He would not have been convicted of anything.
1 like@P Pumpkin Dude I'm a lawyer. I am well aware of the law and how police use it.
0 likes@niemand262 Above I told you about a case where I know someone was charged and convicted of a crime (trespassing) because he didn't give a simple explanation (he had consent). Most rules have exceptions.
0 likes@J D he could have given that explanation in the witness box
1 like@Siddharth Dash The witness box?! LOL. So pay for a lawyer and go through the system and hope things go your way at trial? Just to say the exact thing you could have said to police months before without a criminal record? Dumb. Innocent people should act differently than guilty people.
1 like@Cameron Vadnais its garbage and baseless philosophy
0 likes@J D I’m a lawyer, too.
3 likesJust kidding, I’m not. Just showing you how easy it is to type.
Those who add absurdity, are adding more absurdity, not solving it 😳
0 likesI think we like anti-heros because despite the awful things they do we can relate to them on multiple actions. We are them, we just didn't make the same choices.
0 likesAnti-Hero = Underdog
0 likesAm I the only JEFF Out Here?
Tell you what bawdy , you gimmie some cotton candy wiff dat coke and maybe we get down to brass tacks, even shoot some hoops
0 likesCops: We have a lot of physical evidence
1133 likesJeff: Like what
Cops: 🥺
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yeah, when they start saying that u know they havent sh*t, if they really have evidence they dont say it at all. because then they need no confession, they allready have a case against U.
32 likes@iTheGeek if they have enough evidence the only thing that a confession will do is save time and the taxpayers money for the trial. Is it possible that a jury would find him not guilty, yes, but that would mean they had insufficient evidence or significant police or prosecutoral misconduct. Then again the investigators could very well be lying and they have zero obligation to be truthful to the suspect. Especially if there are multiple suspects invloved.
1 likeStouthuyzen Bob not true.
0 likesThey will still talk to you even if they have pretty ironclad evidence. They are never really satisfied that they have enough because they know every jury trial is a roll of the dice. They want all they can get. Confessions, DNA, fingerprints, eye witnesses, etc. They want it all. But it is still true that oftentimes even if they have no evidence they will say they have a lot. It is one of their main tricks for drawing someone into talking.
0 likesDo not talk to the police... All risk, no reward, it's like playing Russian roulette, best possible outcome is you end up right where you started.
0 likes" My name is Jeff "
0 likesi’m sorry but i love jeff
0 likesAs a nurse I have found the strangest of thing when it comes to addicts, when they come out of the withdrawal faze, they are usually the kindest and most polite people. It’s as if they are so sensitive they can’t handle this world and have found a way to cope through whatever substance they find themselves addicted to. This is not always the case, but 9 times out of 10 they are the most polite empathic patients I have. I try to never judge them. I don’t know what has happened in their life that has made them turn to drugs or alcohol but usually it’s something traumatic.
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Your comment just hit me hard. I’ve struggled with addiction for years been in and out of jails institutions etc. as an addict compassion and empathy from outsiders looking in is so rare. So incredibly rare that an addict gets even a lick of kindness. Thank you for what you do. It means more than you know.
119 likesAfter you numb yaself with drugs for so long it dulls your emotions and once you get into withdrawal symptoms those emotions aren't smothered anymore and can be articulated in their natural way... I know because I am a addict
30 likes@Madeline Harlow: your kindness means so much more than you know, thank you.
30 likes@Micki Stover so true
2 likesU r so right,for 15 years I was a heroin addict,as a addict the life sucks so much
12 likesNot an addict but I can only imagine the suffering they are going through during withdrawal. I am sure the gratitude they feel for anyone willing to help or comfort them would be huge. My heart goes out to all those suffering from such an ugly disease
14 likesInteresting comment.
1 like@akim 74 how did you stop?
2 likesWe need more people like you in this world. I am a former heroin addict and have been clean for over 6 years now. When I was in my worst state ever, pregnant and addicted, I checked myself into a hospital and simply walked in and said "im pregnant and addicted to heroin please help me". I cannot even begin to tell you how shocked they were but the kindest people ever helped me get through the toughest time of my life. The second I got out of the hospital, I got a cab (which the hospital paid for) to a rehab facility and was there for 90 days. I gave birth during the midst of my rehab stay and had to return back without my little girl. She went to my in laws until I got out of rehab. Now we live in a big house with a big backyard, my kids want for nothing and we make a lot of good decisions, money, and have the time and energy for two beautiful children. Our money goes to things they want and need as opposed to always looking out for that next fix. It's a sad world to be in the throes of addiction and I dont wish it upon anyone. But getting sober is possible. You just have to really really want it.
28 likes@Steve W I had to get on methadone to stop. And then taper, get on suboxone and then taper off that. There is no one that can say they are fine from heroin addiction after withdrawal with no medication. Medication is a must in my opinion but it comes with its own risks of abuse and addiction as well.
16 likesMadeline Harlow you are very perceptive. That is pretty much the reason most people in
10 likesturn to drugs to cope. And it takes many of them years to understand...if we ever do! ;)
particularly with opioids, the reward system is rebounding after a long time of suppression. The brain becomes flooded naturally with more dopamine and serotonin and the first stage of what alcoholics anonymous terms "the pink cloud". You feel euphoric, sunlight feels better than ever, optimism and opportunities seem abundant being unshackled from the drug and you can feel much more connected and caring for others. Unfortunately, the brain balances out usually within 4 weeks or so after the end of acute withdrawal symptoms. Thats my guess about what you are experiencing more so than most addicts being to sensitive and caring for the harsh world around them although I'm sure that can be the case for some.
4 likesThanks for this comment. My own father is a recovering alcoholic and he's done some horrible things while drunk out of his mind. But without it, he's the most sensitive, caring and kind person. My friends don't understand why I still love him and visit him despite all the nasty stuff that happened to me due to his alcoholism. It's because it's an illness and he's doing his best to beat it. People are so incredibly judgemental about addicts. I know I have all the right to be angry at him, but I'm just not. I love him.
10 likesMy brother is a drug addict and has been for 35 years. We were both raised in the same home, same parents, and circumstances. Both of our parents are law abiding citizens and were decent parents. My brother is one of the smartest nicest people when he isn't on drugs. Sadly he will go back to them every time. So in his case there wasn't any tragic terrible thing that happened. He just fell into a bad crowd. I never touched a drug because I din't want to be anything like him.
8 likes@flaming roch if that is true that is pretty ironic.
0 likesI never understand why addicts are put in prison. They deserve therapy and rehab, not prison. Prison is for criminal. It's just so messed up.
7 likesThank you Madeline
2 likesThis makes me think even more that they shouldn’t be put in prison. They should be treated as the same with mental illness. I don’t know why people hate their guts so much, but unless someone hurts another person, I’ll keep sympathizing.
9 likesAs an man with empathy there is a line drawn when "addicted" people hold up people with a dirty syringe or rob someone else .And dont rack that up to the misfortune of someone whos been abused . Passing the abuse on IS wrong , and should be punished. And i dont trust the police and i have done drugs ....but im not "addicted" to anything except anger at addicts pleading addiction for abusing someone else.....crap ptooey!
3 likesThank you for this. As a recovering heroin addict, it's really amazing to know that there are people out there like you who recognize that addicts are generally good people. Often, we are just self medicating and/or looking for ways to cope with a life that may have dealt us far more than our fair share of shitty hands. I can say this, because that's absolutely what I was doing, and it would be a lie to say that I don't still struggle with it sometimes.
8 likes@Noelle Marceau wish you all the love and support 💕hope you figure it out. You can do it.
3 likesSweetheart, thats so nice what you said and so true, im off all substances now but i used heroin on childhood abuse, i was in pain and heroin is a painkiller, i just never knew this for years, off drugs i think im a really nice person in a sense of being kind thoughtful and having a good care for others, i love what you said and would give you a huge unconditional hug
5 likes@Chandra Cox Awesome. Im on methadone now hopefully not forever. TY 4 replying.
2 likesIt makes me furious that people are sent to prison for simple drug possession.
5 likesPeriod.
That does not need to be a crime!
Chandra Cox so tell us about the transition from methadone to suboxone please?
3 likesDid You have to wait 4-5 days from your last methadone dose to take subs?
I thought that you must be in the peak of withdrawals, thereby having no opioids attached to the mu-opioid receptors so that the sub could attach without kicking the methadone off and going into precipitated withdrawal. WHICH IS HARSH-
Think of narcan-
For those who were heavily addicted and given narcan , withdrawal floods you so fast and intense.
U go from pin point pupils to the size of a saucer.
Lizz how can u be so sure nothing ever happened to your brother though?
2 likesWere u with him 24/7 as a child?
Mac Giveyouflak u don’t sound very empathetic at all.
4 likesA large portion of addicts work hard for their money and the only”crime” they commit is simple drug possession .
@Aditi thank you very much. I know it's a long, hard road ahead of me, but I am working as hard as I can to stay clean and get my life back.
2 likes@Rob Banks I transitioned from methadone to suboxone within 48 hours of my last dose in a medical detox facility. When you hit full withdrawal, you'll know. That's the time to start the subs, however it is best to do in a facility under qualified medical supervision where they have a specific scale to go by (I cant remember the name of it, though) as precipitated withdrawal is dramatically worse than the standard acute symptoms of withdrawal.
1 like@Professor Kaos wait this is confusing. Are you saying this happens when you are on the drug? You said unshackled? You mean after?
0 likesMadeline Harlow I’m a drunk, don’t want to be. I bet your colleagues look up to u
2 likesAs others noted, thank you for your compassion and empathy. In my experience as a person in recovery w a lot of interaction w docs & nurses, I've mostly gotten the cold shoulder. (Unless while at a place specifically meant to treat addiction, like a rehab.). Even as someone who has been clean and sober, I still get judged when I inform the medical staff that I am an addict and cannot take certain meds. I have seen it change the whole tenor of an appt. It means a lot to hear this from a nurse. So many people don't understand addiction, and they hate us for being addicts. It's been rough. I'm very grateful to be clean. I have a lot of compassion for what you all go through. Thank you for what you do, and thank you so much for understanding & for having a kind heart.
2 likesYes. I believe the same regarding their sensitivity. Self medicating.
2 likesPeople that turn to drugs usually are really nice people that can't handle all the bad in this world, think of this the next time you see a " junkie " lying on the side of the street. Don't berate them, help them. Don't ever look down on someone unless you're giving them a hand to get up !!!
3 likesMadeline I have a lot to say on the topic but for now I’ll just say thank you. There is horror in our lives... everyones.... but mine has stopped me from everything I’ve ever tried to do. I had a big record deal, a very good band, and a beautiful girlfriend.... not anymore but I’m still trying. I really miss my dog the most. Here’s to second chances 😢 good luck guys...
3 likes@502 [C.H] why not numb yaself wid, hard grafting, then you'd be too tired to do drugs, you'd be in bed fast asleep.
0 likes@flaming roch not hard grafting then, just substance abuse. 😆
0 likes@Keeks Bee just imagine the suffering, trafficked people go through! 🤔
1 like@Chandra Cox methadone.... how much does that cost the tax payers!
0 likesIt's all traumatic
3 likesMicki Stover you can do it!
3 likesGreat, loving comment. 9yrs clean. God bless you.
4 likes@Psychic Truth! Much much less than their crimes!!!! Cost should be weighed on a much wider spectrum rather than just money???? How about pain, worry, rape and murder of female and male addicts? Treated like shit for the one mistake using I'm sure they pay dearly for. Sure enough myself. 9yrs clean. Methadone saved my life. 6 women alongside me died waiting on the same. Takes YRS to get. Everyone deserves an honest decent chance to get better. ✌️♥️💪🙏🏴
5 likes@Psychic Truth! Yup I was trafficked. Its real and every addict deserves the only chance to get better. Any doctor will confirm cold turkey can't and won't work. We'll done for pointing out the reality.
3 likes@David Campbell v narrow minded. My parents were police officers. Grandparent too. I took it drunk at a university party and was on the streets within 6months. Couldn't not take it the FOLLOWING DAY. Addiction knows no colour, class or morality. At 9yrs clean I ve a lovely hard working life. Brought about by MYSELF in the middle of nowhere with dirty cops like that treating me like shit thee whole time. Can't touch me now. Peace brother.
2 likesYou sound like an amazing nurse!! After I was raped by my stepdad and got pregnant with my daughter, I started drinking to numb the pain. I have a big heart and am very empathetic. Your assessment is accurate from my vantage point.
4 likes@Aditi Agree!!
1 likeSpot on
1 likeI'm a neuro & I've had the exact same experience. Opioid addicts in particular tend to be the sweetest, people-pleasing, hyper-sensitive individuals. It's as if their natural state is to feel "raw" so that everything is too difficult to bear. "Being born 2 drinks behind" is a phrase we use when referring to people with anhedonia, which is a mild form of depression which is common among folks who are in recovery or have post-acute withdrawal syndrome.
5 likesThank you for saying that it's so true. I had so much abuse my whole life I tried to take my own life many times. Then I got addicted to heroin because it killed my pain. But when I withdrawl it's so horrible and I cant focus and I'm not myself. You said it perfectly
2 likes@Keeks Bee theres nothing like withdrawl. It's hard to explain. I've been trying to get clean off heroin and in withdrawl I'd do anything if someone would just kill me. That's how bad it is :( but noone understands they think we are losers and dont deserve help. I got on heroin cuz of severe sexual, emotional and physical abuse from the time I was 14. I'm 38 now and been on heroin 3 years I wish I'd never done it but I wanted to die and did it thinking I'd overdose and die without pain. I didnt die tho and instead got addicted. Wish I could change it but I cant...
5 likesThanks for saying that, Madeline 💖
3 likesAndrew Olson For what? She is not excusing, she is explaining why she thinks most people turn to drugs. But, I know she may have used big words and spelling is probably hard for you. I hope I helped.
3 likes"the withdrawal faze" LMAO
0 likesIs the 9 times out of 10 a personal static? Because I have absolutely seen way worse from someone coming down, and in the middle of being dope sick. They can definitely become unreliable, and psychosis is a real thing that sets in when one doesn't have their fix. So a breakdown can definitely happen, but there is a major difference between the ones who break down and flood emotions and truth, as opposed to the ones who clam up and want to fight back.
1 likeWow
0 likesThat's a really interesting insight!
0 likesFunny that it seems so strange to you...
0 likesI am a drug addict and I would rather not say what kind of drugs I take, but under the influence I feel very tense and I can't bottle up my emotions anymore, I lose my inhibitions ans I am laser focus on getting my fix. This drug help me to vent my anger and frustrations on other people and that's why it makes me extremely violent. Sometimes I stalk people to hurt them, but I haven’t had the courage to actually approach them. Only one time I did it and the police caught me fast because I was in a frenzy. It wasn't a premeditated assault.
1 likeBut what this drug does to is to distract my attention from my emptiness and the longing for intimacy. So, I agree with you when you say that when I am not under the influence I am a sensitive and gentle person. At least I try.
Been clean from opioids for 8 years after 10 years of addiction. Its a struggle. I sometimes believe there no such thing as forever sobriety after hard addiction except through death. Every addict ive know has relapsed. I know im one pill or sk from being "Jeff" again.
1 likeSpot on
0 likesGod bless Nurses, can't even imagine how is it like to be surrounded by sick people, and work with them. Hell of a job :) thank you, from an engineer in other side of the world.
1 likeAmen to that. You nailed it on the head. That's all I'm willing to disclose about what I went through and what I did about it but you are definitely right.
0 likesBeautiful Disaster The first 90 days your emotions are all over the place it’s freaking crazy
0 likesThank you for your kindness. Had a parent with addiction. It's brutal. Often I couldn't respond with or feel empathy just sadness, anger, and hopelessness. Now as a parent I have more empathy for both of us and others who deal with addiction.
0 likes@Andrew Olson What would you say to cancer patients that were put on large doses of morphine on and off for a number of years?
1 likeI know one - her 1st dose of oxy when she was only 7 yrs old.
Drs gave her no chance for survival.
It was a miracle a new treatment became available for her and at the age of 15 she was declared in remission.
It took another 6 years for her to be opid free.
It is the same shit a heroine only legal.
She is now in her 20s and living a good healthy lifestyle but she said word for word....if she didn't have the right support system and understanding family to get her through it she would've have turned to street drugs 100%.
My point is.....no one wakes up one morning and says "I want to be an addict!"
It's actually because they have experienced so much suffering at their own hand. Think about what that does to a person. To be responsible day after day for your own suffering and be incapable of changing your actions.
2 likesThey have a profound recognition of their own shortcomings and won't tend to judge you for yours.
Seems like you are a very perceptive nurse thank you for what you do God bless.
2 likesThank you, because as a former addict I’ve had a lot of bad experiences with nurses. In one case, the nurse saw marks on my arm and said I was lying about being sick (i wasnt, I have a chronic illness and was rehospitalized the very next day in fulminant condition) and then I heard her talking to another nurse saying I was lying about my address and place of work (I wasn’t, I was a functioning addict and had a corporate job).
0 likesIt’s so incredibly frustrating dealing with those kinds of nurses so I thank you for treating these people with respect and care. Especially in the midst of withdrawal they won’t be themselves. Now, that being said, a lot of addicts are really scummy and dishonest people before and after drugs get involved.
Chris Randall alcohol is one of the worst drugs :( goodluck to u
0 likes@MAC you're so cool and strong...a role model. here have a cookie. nice generalisation btw...rly shows how much "empathy" you have
0 likesThank you for your comment and kindness but most of all thank you for your compassion. As it has done to the others in this thread your comment hit me aswell. Too many ppl nowadays are too closed minded, naive and extremely judgmental...we need more ppl like you on this planet. This means sooo much to us who are struggling with addiction and lived or still living thru hell. Thank you again Madeleine, you are a truly an amazing human being.
0 likesThank you- I’ve been clean for 3 years- this is very very true. Thank you for being kind.
0 likesMadeline Harlow I was addicted to heroin for a few years, and I used it as a way to numb my feelings. Thank God I was able to get off it.
0 likes@Chandra Cox I agree 100% and have been thru the same as u twice. No one wants to be dope sick...it's fucking HELL! And all one needs to feel normal again is to score some dope or pills or whatever they are hooked on. Dope sickness lasts a long time depending on what substance they are using, with Opioids it can take months for your body and brain to fully "detoxified" and in full recovery. That's meaning they can sleep properly again, no chills/sweats and the rest of the residual withdrawal symptoms of long term Opioid use. One doesn't have to "abuse" prescription meds to be dependent or addicted either and that's what a lot of ppl and even doctors don't understand. Even when patients take their prescribed meds as directed by their doctor they WILL get addicted or dependent on that medication and that includes non-narcotics aswell. Our bodies can and will get dependent even with anti depressants or anti anxiety medications.
0 likesDelon Duvenage there are some addicts that are psychopaths as much as there are soccor moms that are psychopaths that only act nice when it benefiting them and shows their true colors when they can’t you to do what they want. People are all different and your experience with your brother isn’t the definition of all addicts just like my post was not me way saying all addicts are sensitive , decent people. I’ve had horrible addicts who are abusive verbal and physically, the ones who are only nice because they want me bring there pain medicine, just like I’ve had verbally abusive lawyers, dads, grandpa, grandma, moms, and former nurses, who I’d rather quit my job than go in there room and deal with their verbal abuse. I’m not easily manipulated btw. This was just my observation and yes I’m taking into account the addict who are super nice to me and calls me every 1-3 hours for pain medicine they aren’t due for, but a lot of them don’t and those are the ones I was referring when I said “they are usually the kindest most polite people.”
1 like@Delon Duvenage Your addict brother is 1 person not a representation of ALL addicts
0 likes@Rob Banks for Suboxone to work properly the patient MUST b in full blown withdrawal. So unfortunately because Methadone is such a long acting Opioid it took me 3 days without a dose to go into withdrawal. If the patient takes Suboxone while dosed with any Opioid they will be put into withdrawal as soon as the Suboxone starts taking effect. When your dosed or high and given Suboxone which contains Naloxone you will go into withdrawal because it blocks your Opioid receptors in the brain. Trust me, it's much more comfortable to b in withdrawal before taking Suboxone...I had my first dose when the pharmacy opened at 9am and I was feeling great before lunch that day had another dose at 4 and by 6pm I had no withdrawal symptoms whatsoever. If it wasn't for Methadone and Suboxone I can honestly say I most likely would not b leaving this comment right now. Good luck on your path
0 likes@Delon Duvenage that doesn't go for everyone man and anyone can manipulate, they don't have to b an addict. I hear u tho, I know exactly where u r coming from and u obviously have some animosity towards your brother. But, can u look in the mirror and say you haven't manipulated anyone or done any one wrong? Your brother NEEDS help not to be ridiculed and shunned by his own family..he has those actions because he is sick
0 likes@Jessica Keim As somebody who has been exactly where you are can tell you there is a light at the end of the tunnel, even though it may not seem like it now. There are ways to clean up and people out there who can and will help. If you ever need somebody to talk to who can relate, I am here. Just let me know.
0 likes@Andrew Olson you're right, its not an excuse. Its a reason.
0 likes@Elizabeth Walker sometimes its not so much as wanting to drugs but the drugs wanting you. I run but they still find me
0 likes@Rob Banks He will tell you himself he ran into a bad crowd. No, nothing happened to him except stupidity of trying that first drug. He has destroyed his life. He has had three wives and four kids all gone because of drugs. He has felonies, all because of drugs, he lost an amazing job, his house and all of his money because of drugs, he now has started stealing from family. For my own peace of mind and my kids, he is no longer in my life. He has burned every bridge and so many people have tried to help him.
0 likes@Chandra Cox That is a wonderful story.
0 likes@Rob Banks simple drug possession? It is illegal. Do you know how many deaths have occurred through drugs? Kids getting hold of their parents drugs, car accidents, hurting the people around you. There has to be punishment but being forced to go to rehab, does that work?
0 likes@Elizabeth Walker I can understand if they harm someone and the person is then put behind bars. However, if someone is getting into drugs and need help, how is putting them behind bars gonna help? Prison puts you in this irreversible cycle of going in and out. There are many addicts that have recovered. I don't think it's fair to them if they never get a chance to redeem themselves.
0 likes@Lizz exactly. That’s why all drugs should be regulated.
0 likesWhy do u think it’s easier for kids to get drugs than alcohol?
Because alcohol is legal. And bought only thru the proper channels.
If you believe the failed drug war is the continued way to go to continue policing the poor , u really are young and naive, or haven’t done any research
Yes
0 likesWammm bamm thank you for the coke put me back in my cell
0 likesI love these comments! ❤️
0 likesJeffrey won.
0 likesOver analyzing. Jeff is under the influence of heroine. He’s not doing anything on purpose. He’s on drugs, that’s it. He won’t remember any of this. This is sad
0 likesJudging by the fact that the cop refused him a lawyer, and even healthcare, I’d assume the case swayed massively in Jeff’s way. I hope the dude got his butterfinger
78 likesUPDATE :
2 likesFor anyone interested, Jeff has his own You-Tube channel where he discusses this encounter in his own words.
His YT channel is called... "The Legend of Jeff" lol
Once a suspect asks for a lawyer ALL questions by the police MUST stop. This guy was mirandized multiple times and held for hours AFTER repeatedly asking for an attorney. I don't see how any statements he might have made after all of this wouldn't get thrown out. Officer's conduct was clearly illegal and against Jeff's constitutional right to remain silent and the right to an attorney.
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Depending on the state yes, because if you are to be alone in the forest than no one can stop you from getting free coffee in the dark during a good movie
2 likes@Cinematic Void NO. That's in EVER STATE! The 5th amendment applies nation wide!
7 likesSeeing as how they dropped the charges...But, yeah. The second time he "talked", was to get another Coke...Here's hoping Jeff has a clean Christmas...
14 likesIn this case they probably use the "we needed to wait for him to sober up to talk to him" excuse
0 likes@Brent Farvors never realized you reacted to my spew of nonsense, if you look above again you realize I made no sense, must of read the first sentence only thinking I was actually giving a productive thought
1 like@Cinematic Void yes I was genuinely confused with your comment, but even more confused after reading his. Thought it was supposes to make sense somehow
6 likeshold on. he asked for a lawyer more than once and the police officer continued to interrogate him. is that not a violation of his rights?
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It is. He was also withdrawing and was denied methadone, which can be dangerous.
69 likes@Missy Maria he said he has no prescription tho
1 like@eViL jEsuS All it takes is a quick u-test and they will know he needs atmeast methadone, withdrawal from Opium is already bad bud he is imprisoned too.
1 likeNo. It means his testimony MAY not be admissible. Any evidence gained from his testimony is admissible though.
1 likeWhat troubles me the most about this case or cases like this where cops pressure people for insane periods of time ..sometimes exceeding days, is that you can see first hand how innocent people can have their lives ruined by making an admission of guilt when they are in fact innocent. Many cops don’t care if the person did the crime or not they just want someone to go to jail so the case can be closed. It’s happened so many times before where the suspect will be so exhausted from the interrogation that they admit to guilt because they just want the endless harassment and intimidation to end. And sometimes It’s like a war of attrition where the interrogators keep swapping each other out and the suspect gets so delusional by the end of it they might start to believe they really did it..
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When I was 10, after I had spent a week with my grandma, just hours after I got home, the phone rang, and I was accused of emptying her coin jar. My stuff was searched. I said 1000x I would never do that (I would never do that) for 2wks I had to go to my grandmas after school, and sit in the living room, surrounded by my grandma, my granddad, my dad and my step mum, while they would question me. Every day I said “no, I didn’t do that.” They asked if I didn’t do it, who did. And I didn’t have the answer to that, so every day, I went back. I was to have to go back every day until we figured out what happened to that money. One day, I said “Ok, I took it,” and then, I had to say what I did with it. The interrogation didn’t end when I admitted to it, so now I was stuck there, again, unsure of what to say, because, I didn’t take the money. So I said, I spent it. They asked what I spent it on… I had nothing to show them for it, so I had no answers. So I said candy. There was no shop nearby, and I had no way of getting to a shop without my grandma taking me. So they didn’t believe me. So more days went by, my stuff was searched again, for new things, there were no new things, I didn’t take the money. Then after many more days of these interrogations, I said I buried it. They asked why, I didn’t have an answer. Then I realised I could say I buried it so I could come back for it later. They asked me to show them where I buried it. See if we could find it then to give it back. I didn’t bury it, because I didn’t take it, so I didn’t know what to say. They asked me if I buried it at the park nearby, so I said yes, and I walked them around that park, from bush to bush and tree to tree, telling them, I wasn’t sure which bush I buried it under. I eventually said I buried it here, and we dug around a bit, but it was obvious nothing was buried there. The interrogation continued for what felt like a very long period of my life, and then, I was told I wasn’t welcome at my grandmas for a while. This entire process broke my heart, because I couldn’t understand what was happening. I knew about the money jar, my grandma told me at least once or twice while I stayed with her, that I could take $2 and by myself something from the shops. But I only ever went to the money jar with permission. I knew no one else could have taken the money, because why would they, and who would have? There was no one but my grandparents that knew about it. I was just lost over this, which is why I eventually just admitted I stole the money, because, there was NO ANSWER. It broke my heart, my grandma didn’t trust me anymore, my grandad didn’t trust me anymore. My dad was disappointed in me. Everyone was hurt. Most of all me. It wasn’t until about 10 years later, I realised what happened to the money. I told my dad. He listened, whether or not he believed me, I dunno. My relationship with my grandma was never the same. My dad, my grandad and my grandma, are all dead now, and so, I actually hope, they know the truth. They know it broke my heart, and my confession was a lie. I never took that money. The person who took that money, was a girl who lived in the neighbourhood. Her name was Mallory, she was someone I talked to sometimes in the street, and one day I asked my grandma if she could come swim in the pool with me. After swimming, we went inside to change, I showed her the coin stash, showing off as a kid does. Then I went to get changed to bike around with Mallory, I forgot all about showing her my grandmas coin stash. When we were on our bikes, she was behind me, I heard jingling. I asked her about it, and she jingled her arm at me, and told me it was her bracelets. She had a lot of those very thin silver bracelets, they were popular back in the 90s. I thought it was weird and questioned her some more, and then she said, “here you can have some.” And she gave me a couple. Then she said she had to go home, and she biked off. And I never saw her again. I never thought about it again. Until I was an adult, and I realised what happened. She emptied my grandmas coin jar into her plastic bag, holding her swimmers and towel. It was jingling as she biked along. That’s what I heard, that’s where the money went. I am gutted I never thought of that when I was a kid. But it wouldn’t have helped, I didn’t really know Mallory, and I didn’t really know where she lived. Somewhere in my grandmas neighbourhood. It wouldn’t have helped my case, and I probably would have gotten in trouble for showing someone where my grandmas stash was anyway. I often think of this experience, and I can honestly say, it changed me as a person, going through it. Lying and admitting to something I didn’t do. Being forced into a lie. It defeated me. It defeated me to tell people I love, I did something awful, when I really didn’t do it. I know people lie and admit to things they didn’t do. Because the pressure, it gets to you. Not having answers to their questions, not having an alibi, having no explanation for something that so obviously happened, and having authority not let up, not stop asking, not stop telling you you’re guilty…It makes you tell them you are. I am 36 now, and it still hurts to this day, knowing what happened to me. It was a relief to remember Mallory’s part in it… But it doesn’t change the hurt I caused myself, lying.
16 likesLet it go before it eats you up.
2 likes@Siobhán Rose damn bruh
0 likesThis, ladies and gentlemen, is why you DO NOT talk to the police. Notice how the guy who didn't talk was released? And all the other videos where the people give 3 hour long stories why they're innocent ends up with them getting life! Be Jeff my friend. Be Jeff. 🤷🏻♂️
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@Zombie Boy but he's not
3 likesJeff
0 likesSee how quickly the demeanor of the detective changed when he realized Jeff wasn't going to give him any information? NOTHING YOU SAY TO THE COPS WILL HELP YOU! KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTHS SHUT EVEN IF YOU ARE INNOCENT!
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It's a sad reality. Any police show I've watched they only ever get sent down due to talking. Unfortunately it doesn't always seem about finding the right person just the person stupid enough to talk. Even as someone that doesn't commit crime I would refuse to talk which is sad...
1 likeAs a recovering opiate addict, I hope I can adequately convey the absolute HELL it is to withdraw in prison
232 likesI was infinitely more scared of that, than I was death
A heroin addict is driven to do horrible things in order to avoid withdrawals
I stole from family, I sold drugs knowing the cops were following me and I’d be caught eventually, I robbed people
I’d have killed myself before going through those withdrawals
I’d NEVER be able to commit those crimes as a sober man, but that FEAR is what drove me on
I didn’t get drugs to get high anymore I got drugs to feel normal for a while
I’m sitting in rehab at the moment, a couple months in... early days in my recovery but I remind myself every day how real that fear is
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stay strong my friend!
15 likesBut, my question is; After going through so much pain, how can you even LOOK at heroin ever again...? Baffles my mind how something that causes so much pain is done again, and again, and again...
0 likesstay strong brother just remember it can only get better
7 likesThis is why communities need to invest in Suboxone/methadone maintenance instead of investing in police departments .
8 likesIf you don’t mind… How many bags were you doing daily, how long did it take to get through acute withdrawal’s, and how does your body and mind feel now?
0 likesMy depression and withdrawal mingled together like some kind of mad symphony ball room dance and I didn’t know where withdrawals began and depression ended.
2 likesJeff
Wish you all the best with your recovery <3
2 likes@Brent Farvors I mean he literally explained it for you right here. There's a reason addicts who want to quit can't just stop yaknow. Imagine a schizophrenia man with a chronic condition that makes them feel excruciating pain constantly, which is solved through medication, and then one day he loses access to his medication, and that's somewhat similar to what withdrawal would be like. That's not to say it's actually what withdrawal is but rather it's to give an idea of the severity of it.
8 likesI heard addictions are people trying to survive emotionally as they could not bear to be present in their lives. It's not the addicts are at fault. It's the lack of healthy human interaction/relationships. Once they are connected with supportive family and/or friends there's no need to turn to excessive drugs, computer games, sex etc for comfort. There's also a TED talk on this I can't remember who it was though. I agree 100%. This helps me understand the struggles of addiction. Hope this helps you in some ways too.
1 like@Brent Farvors Start smoking, when you are sure you got addicted, try to quit smoking. Then multiply that fear of withdrawal with 100 (i guess). Then hopefully you'll stop asking silly questions :)
2 likesThe literature says that withdrawal symptoms only last a few days, but that's not accurate. After being put on pain medication for a year, taking it multiple times a day (I have a painful neurological disease) I became physically dependent. I tried to wean myself many times, and a few weeks times cold turkey. After going 5 days without, the withdrawals were still there and getting worse, not better. The skin crawling, insomnia, severe stomach cramps, it was hell. I used to judge addicts. I no longer do.
7 likesRooting for you. You've got this. ❤️
1 likeBeen clean roughly 15 years. And anytime I think about dope I remind myself about laying in a holding cell covered in piss & garbage going through withdrawals . sometimes waiting for days to be sent to Rikers island only to repeat the process for another two days before getting medical attention. And they give you the lowest amount possible of method. That memory alone is enough to keep you on the straight and narrow.
2 likes@C Z it might have been Johan Hari he also wrote a book called chasing the scream.
0 likes@Ariadne's Child I just looked him up and it IS him! :) It was fascinating when I first heard his talk, "Everything you think you know about addiction is wrong". In fact I listened to it multiple times just to let it sink in. It answered all the questions I needed on addiction.
0 likes@C Z yeah I thought so bc there aren't many sharing this perspective on the addiction epidemic, I read his book and then later found the TED talk.
0 likesHey Davie how are we?
2 likes@Christian Morales doin OK, 5 months clean is coming soon
2 likesWish I could say I’m loving it all but
I’ve been pretty down for weeks.. not depressed just hopeless about my future. Like my best days are behind me n there’s no point in going through all this. Don’t want to do drugs but not feeling any love for life either
I started weaning off methadone a few weeks ago... plan is to get to a low enough dose to allow me to switch to suboxone then get the subutex injections. Hoping it’s just the methadone sucking the life out of me
It does lower testosterone... not only that but it limits my ability to work having to rely on getting to a pharmacy every day
(Not sure you really wanted to know all that but... there it is lol)
@Davie Jay proud of you for 5 months clean
2 likesWhen I tell you I feel you 100%. I would rather do ANYTHING than going through withdrawals. I’ve done mane many things I’m not proud of. One day at a time!
0 likes@Brent Farvors I guess your someone who believes addiction is a choice. Not a disease.
0 likesGood luck
0 likes4 months later I hope you got the help you needed.
0 likes@Tam Anon I’m still in treatment, coming up on 6 months
3 likesI’m in a second stage house, in the process of getting into some college courses so I’ll have a career when I leave here
So yes, it’s been a productive time here 👍
@Davie Jay Congratulations, my friend ❤️ Stay well
2 likes"wham, bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell" iconic... and i now will be using this in my everyday conversations XD
85 likesIt’s extremely frustrating watching how the detective doesn’t understand how addiction works. “What do you need methadone for?” Like damn, have a care. The poor lad is sick and has been sick over a decade. I can’t stand this part of policing. Help them!
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Yes lets feel sorry for this leach on society. Great job
6 likes@Johnny how do you know if he's a leach?
55 likesI've been hooked on heroin and I was paying for that shit with money I worked my fucking ass off for.
Not every addict in is in the stage of addiction where they can no longer support themselves and have to parasite on others.
On top of that, even with those that do end up leeching off society, you have to be able to ask some very important questions. Like, what happened, how did they end up there. It's not like a healthy, well adjusted person will suddenly decide to seek out heroin - a drug that can be overdosed and literally kill you with relative ease, so each time you get another batch, you may be gambling on your chances of getting high and numbing the pain vs very literally dying.
People don't generally become addicts out of some sort of inherent evil, no matter how easy it is for your smooth brain to think that way.
@xucthclu he had been arrested many times. Just shows that he chose to stay on that path rather than improve himself. His notgivingafuck demeanor says it all. While he is likable I find it hard to feel any sympathy for him.
4 likes@Johnny "it's real easy to judge them when you see 'em, but you'll never truly understand until you've ever been there."
40 likes@Johnny he was arrested in the past. The past doesn't define a character, which is proven by his character today. You should seriously learn to care for others in similar positions to him, because a good majority of the time it wasn't their character that led them there, it was environment, which was believe it or not at least partially crafted by our government. Any research into the drug war and you'll see these aren't bad people but rather a product of something bigger
25 likes@xucthclu everyone is dealt a hand and the path you choose defines your character. This man shows he’s smart and couldve been so much more. But he said fuck it and stayed on drugs, and there are people like you enabling and sympathizing. Good job:)
0 likes@Johnny you clearly don’t understand addiction
4 likes@Hannah Gs this man is smart enough to know right from wrong. No one can defeat someones addiction for them its up to them. You shouldnt enable people… like its some terminal illness that cant be solved.
1 like@Hannah Gs thats just like, your opinion man
0 likes@Johnny very mature response
1 likeLost my little brother to this shit 3 years ago, my brother was a good man, he had his struggle but he was a Good man. The way he thanked the coke tore me up. He is obviously withdrawing and they know it. He invoked that 5th amendment like the falcon punch on Super Smash Bros.
34 likesOne love
The mistake people make is answering questions. There’s a reason lawyers say do not answer any questions. Not even seemingly innocuous questions like “where are you coming from?” or “where are you going?” When you start talking is when they start building a case. Never ever trust what a cop tells you.
29 likesjeff reminds me of my best friend's dad so much. we'll call him tom. tom has served time before and has carried so much wisdom from that. if you ask his opinion, you can bet your family's life that he will be as honest as possible and will not sugarcoat it at all. the "you look like a prick" comment was what reminded me of tom the most. he really matches that anti hero criteria. but overall he's an amazing dad and honestly a great role model in some ways :)
20 likesFor being messed up, Jeff is smart enough to know the importance of asking for the lawyer. Unless this is Canada where they can continue asking you questions and use anything said against you.
12 likesHe wanted a lawyer. Leave him alone by law.
19 likesMan was read his rights, man exercised his right to remain silent, man told the officers "I do not want to sign anything, I will not answer questions, I want a lawyer" AFTER he had already informed them "I'm a junkie and I will be suffering from withdrawal soon" and yet the officers CONTINUED to interrogate him SEVERAL more times over the course of 5 to 10 hours.
6128 likesNot only did these officers violate this man's rights by continuing to pressure and interrogate him after he called for a lawyer, they actively and willingly used time as a factor to exploit this man's self-admitted addiction in a attempt to use his withdrawal symptoms and irritation as a means to obtain enough evidence for a conviction.
None of the officers in this video should be officers anymore, they should have their badges taken away and never be allowed to hold any kind of position of authority again.
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Pretty sure none of that matters when the law says the suspect can be held for 24 hours
255 likes@Piggish he can be held for 24 hours, but not without legal representation if he demands it, which he wasn't given and was repeatedly questioned anyway.
986 likes@PhantomSavage for HOURS ON IN and they asked stupid questions and said stupid shii like" I got alil bit of something "to he has alot and already knows everything like wtf bro why u askn me all this shii if u already know
90 likesSorry, but that only works in TV shows. They can ask him whatever they want, they just can't use anything as evidence unless he states that he understands his Miranda rights (which at one point he does) . As for the continued interrogations, Jeff did them willingly for Cokes.
228 likesAs to his heroin addiction, the detectives are under no obligation to cater to his withdrawal schedule.
They interrogated him by his own consent (by offering him food and drinks)
44 likes@PhantomSavage yeah but he kept agreeing to talk to them in exchange for a coke and a Butterfinger, which he never got. I agree with you but when he asked for a lawyer that's going to take time and when he said put me back in the cell they did. Sure they were trying to bend the rules by what you were saying but.... He was agreeing to some of the stuff in exchange for sodas and stuff
60 likes@FlyGuy2000 interviews are supposed to end as soon as a subject asks for a lawyer. Withdrawal is a medical condition and there are required to have a medical professional examine him to ensure he won't have a seizure and die from withdrawal.
248 likes@Simqer after getting asked so many bullshit questions he was probably tired like wtf are you on about.
15 likes@Simqer and I like how you say food even though it was a fucking butterfinger
21 likes@FlyGuy2000 law says that when a person asks for legal counsel, the interview is over until the lawyer gets there. Any attempt to get information out of them can be argued easily to be dismissed by a seasoned defense attourney. Which is why these regulations are important.. they affect the states case against the defendant if evidence or even a confession was gained in violation of the defendants constitutional rights.
110 likesAnd its just plain wrong to do so and against any decent deparmental code.. not to mention illegal.
Bottom line, he asked for counsel, the officer was legally obligated to terminate the interview until the lawyer got there, because not doing so is illegal and any informatiom gained thereafter without a lawyer present can be dismissed in court.. dont believe me, look it up.
The 24 to 48 hours refers to the amount they arw legally allowed to hold him without charging him.
@FlyGuy2000 to fully drive home the point i made in the previous comment i direct you towards sthruck vs US.. where it was ruled that if during or after questioning or conviction if it comes to light that it involved a sixth ammendment violation, the conviction or indictmet must be reversed immediately.
44 likesThis mans sixth ammendment right was violated.
I think you have a incorrect perception on how the world works
15 likes- cops can ask you as many questions as they want
- they don’t care about your addictions or problems
- just because you ask for a lawyer it does not stop the wheels of justice from moving
@Car Kulture yes it doea. It is illegal in the unites states to interview one that asked for a lawyer until the lawyer gets there.. any evidence or info they gain while doing so is inadmissable and can lead to a conviction reversal.. it has happenes before due to circumatances exactly like the one in this video, man questioned without legal counsel after demanding it.
91 likesYou people really should read the laws on the matter before commenting. Spreading untruths on it only hurts people.
Yeaahh, I dont think so.
2 likes@John Blood i believe you btw.. But maybe a lot of the other comments know that the reality can be different.. The cop will still bust through i guess.. It's just my oppinion though.. And seeing the video myself i felt sympathy for jeff. I hope he did get clean and works in coca cola afterwards
3 likes@Ghani well it doesnt matter how in reality it usually works but if his case went to trial everything in that interview, including incriminatong evidence would be automatically thrown out.. which is why officers in that position are trained to lean towards plea bargains..
31 likesSo anyone in that position can just say "i wont sign anything, i will not make any deals, ill see you in court" and i can guarantee the defendant will get off scott free.. has happened on numerous occasions when the police rushed the process and were stupid enough to go to court instead of trying to plea bargain.
It has even happened when the defendants have clearly been guilty.. this is why cops should not be allowed to do this, it can ruin the states case against a criminal if he is well read enough with law to know the charges would be dismissed on a 6th ammendment and 14th ammendment clause violatiom, which it would be, regardless of actual guilt.
The constitution is king in the justice system, you violate it in the course of adverserial action against a defendant and your case is ruined.. prosecutors hate cops like this, trust me.. especially if they didnt get him to sign a plea bargain.
A majority of criminal cases these days are solved with plea bargains but all it takes is one intelligent serial killer to know that if he doesnt sign that waiver and plea bargain that the circumstances like in this video, would guarantee his release.
Ye sure lmao
2 likes@John Blood I appreciate your view but unfortunately this is not as cut and dry as you make it out to be just because you evoke your Miranda rights doesn’t stop the process plenty of people have had evidence used against when they made further statements after evoking their rights. Rules are just words on paper and unfortunately they are not always followed, if the prosecution can prove that you some how waived your Miranda rights after you attempted to evoke them you are now fair game.
2 likes@Car Kulture if the police have enough evidence to charge you, sure, but even then, if you say you want a lawyer then no interview is to take place.. at all until the lawyer is present.. that is as cut and dry as that.
36 likesAnd in this case specifically it is clear cut.. this is no an opinion or a point of view.. this is simple fact.. 10 second google search would tell you as much.
Evidence gathered outside the interview room is another matter, but any information gathered in interview without lawyer present when asked, is thrown automatically out.. cops do not need extensive interviews whenever they already have enough to charge you, deals usually come off the table and such.. otherwise you can bet that any evidence is circumstancial.
I know how this works. I have family in law enforcement.
These are rules based on the sixth and fourteenth ammendment, right to counsel and fair hearings..
And proving a waiver for counsel was used needs to be a formal one. Spoken in clear plain english "i do not require representation in questioning" or a written waiver with your signature.. anything less is invalid. ankther exception is that if you reinitiate the conversation, then the police may speak to you about the case again or ask leading questions.. this is called fishing and is a common tactic to get the person to speak first, not the case here again.
In closing, the officers in this video broke the law, plain and simple. Everything i stated to back up that assertion and the legal consequences in court are accurate as i have stated them.. being well read in law is not a matter of opinion or open to interpretation.. it is black and white in law and constitution.
@Car Kulture let me give you a list of what the cops can do after you ask for a lawyer.
27 likesWait for the Lawyer to arrive and resume questioning after they have arrived and advised their client (usually in private first)
Get a warrant to search your property
Get a warrant to get forensic evidence from your person (dna etc.)
Speak to witnesses and gather evidence against you.
Once they have enough, they may charge you..
They however may not continue questioning you after and unambiguous call for an attourney has taken place, they must pack up and cease all forms of questioning im that instant.
@John Blood hopefully you don’t ever end up In the system I’d bet a lot of your notions with how the law works will be shattered, I know because I’ve seen it and lived it, the world is not black and white it’s all grey! Wish you the best!
2 likes@Car Kulture You're wrong. again, any amount of google search would prove it so.
28 likesYou did not live through an experience like that. You either waived your rights, didn't keep your mouth shut (iE initiated conversation), signed a plea bargain or you're just a liar.
@John Blood I don’t appreciate being called a lair I have been very respectful with this exchange but by the way you speak and carry yourself shows me you have a lot of growing up to do, I have a feeling life will humble you, best wishes and it’s not cool to like your own comments(just saying)
5 likes@Car Kulture Im not liking my own comments, i type and leave. got better things to do than to spend the effort on that. correcting those that are clearly wrong is enough for me.
27 likesJust to drive home the point here.
"Police are required to stop their interrogation at the time you ask for an attorney, and cannot question you further until you have an attorney present. You must clearly communicate that you are asking for an attorney and that you do not wish to be questioned anymore."
-Intermountainlegal
-legal encyclopedia
-nolo
-wikipedia
-law.justicia
Note the use of the words *clearly communicate*.
meaning you must clearly and without question say "I want a lawyer" NOT "may i have a lawyer" Or any kind of request to have a lawyer in the form of a question.. It must be a statement that you WANT a lawyer present in questioning. Failure of the police to comply with this is a sixth amendment violation and again, ILLEGAL.
Also. funny that you would focus on the posited scenario that you were in fact a liar out of all the other possibilities which would account for your PoV.. Because in my experience, that usually means that that is exactly what's happening.
@Car Kulture Oh and in case you think im simply being an ass, that i may be but i had to double and triple check my information before posting in case i may have been incorrect here.. If that would have been the case, i would have ended the exchange instead and said that you were correct and went on my way having learned something more about the nuances of law and law enforcement.
22 likes@Car Kulture No my logic is based on psychology and careful study of law.
26 likessure cutting corners does happen in law and law enforcement, but guess what, if such a thing happens, and you can prove it, and you could if you experienced what you claim to have, your sentence would be expunged in appeals court and if it resulted in a felony charge, the record cleared.
Also since we're talking, mind referring me to the court case number. Those a public record and since you adamantly claim to have experienced something, i'll go ahead and analyze it FOR you.
I'll be waiting.
@Car Kulture Congratulations. You have made it to the stage where a liar uses ad hominem and an unverifiable claim as weight in an argument.
37 likesBeing educated and correcting someone who clearly is wrong on their base knowledge, in an ideal world would result into the party who's wrong admitting they were wrong. But you fall into the category that likes to try to save their incorrect position with either lying or trying to claim some manner of high ground.
common, idiotic and not to mention rude.
Oh and just to blow your picture of me out the way, I'm a finnish national that moved to america.. I have no parents to live with.
And just to be clear, the posited scenario of you being a liar doesn't involve you lying about being in the system, but your claim that you experienced a sixth amendment violation in the same way as Jeffrey here did.
@Car Kulture no, i posited several scenarios, you chose to focus on the liar part.
25 likesAnd yes, i am an asshole, wont deny that. But im right too and thats the part that vexes you the most. If you don't wish to be called out on an unlikely story then don't use alleged personal anecdote as ammunition in your argument.
@UCUBtC2-JFl5ZnAFsUQxJ9jA sure you don't. But it's not a valid argument to use. I personally don't care whether or not you are lying or not. But your alleged personal accounts gives your argument no weight especially if you're not willing to share the details. Personally i would have been interested in getting verification on it but instead you take a path of berating, evasion and projection.
13 likesAdvising people incorrectly is not cool. Think before you comment on something like a comment chain having to do with case law. Especially if your position is that the system is built to actively and repeatedly to violate your constitutional rights without you having any recourse, because it's not only incorrect, it's potentially dangerous advice to impart on someone.
@John Blood That is the reason to remain silent until your lawyer arrives.
2 likes@John Blood Actually I work for the police in Eastern Europe. We don't have Miranda and it's so much easy to do our job when we interrogate.
1 likep.s. I'm not on the side of the cops from the video. They're not right.
@S. N. well european countries are different obviously. My native country, finland is like that too.
10 likesIn finland you have every right for a lawyer but the police are not legally required to stop questioning, it is up to the person whether he or she wants to speak until the lawyer gets there. And in finland you have the right to view any evidence the police have gathered and gather your own evidence that may prove your innocence and have it included in the investigation files.
one exception is that if you do not speak the language you have the right to get an interpreter and the questioning will not begin until one is present because you have the right to understand what the police is charging you with.
That's the way the game works
1 likeIt’s not the officers’ responsibility to make a junkie feel comfortable when he needs his “fix”, sorry.
2 likesThis comment chain and seeing Mr. KarCulture squirm as you gentlemen called out his bullshit with calm and poise 👏 was extremely satisfying to behold. Backed into a corner, this 9000IQ super sleuth busted out the ultimate power move, casting " Allege Mom's Basement !" but y'all banished that bullshit to the Shadow Realm like immediately! Great Job!
25 likes@Joshua Mlnarik thanks i guess.. had a good laugh reading that comment.
12 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel They are not required to make you comfortable. But they were required to stop questioning him until a lawyer was present because he demanded one correctly and firmly.
18 likesIf the police had an actual case, they would have charged him a lot sooner but they were relying on him breaking down and providing a confession and signing a plea bargain and the officers were using his dependency on illicit substances as a form of leverage.. The longer they held and questioned him, the higher his chances of confessing and signing a plea bargain simply because his withdrawal symptoms were so unbearable.
it's a lot more common than i'd like it to be and i'm surprised it's not considered a form of torture/coercion in america.
@John Blood They aren’t required to stop questioning once a lawyer is requested.
1 likeAlso “muh withdrawals!!” is a slippery slope because it opens the door to allow anyone to get anything they say dismissed because they make up fake withdrawal excuses.
@Rifle Shooter Channel law says they are required to stop. And youre right, when requested they are not.. demanded is the right word. He demanded a lawyer, law says interview is over until one arrives.
12 likes@John Blood You watch too much TV and don’t even live in the US so your input means nothing.
3 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel actually i think ive stated already that i do live in the united states. Finnish national, moved to america. Also the letter of the law is clear, apparently you just dont read.
25 likes@John Blood Irony of claiming someone is use as hominem but then calling that person “dumb”.
3 likesYour tacit concession is noted.
Did you get your law degree from daytime reruns of law and order?
0 likes@turbo diesel whoops just realized you werent replying to me.. damn these settings,
8 likesIt's the name of the game mate. It sucks for the suspect, but it's just how it works. They have to grill him in the time they have, and who's going to flog them if they aren't 100% within the confines of the law? The attorney, in the courtroom? They'll survive that.
1 likeAnd if they can get some solid evidence or a confession before he/she arrives, it won't matter that they didn't wait - once the suspect is in the courtroom it's all over.
They're gambling, and it's their job to do this before the machinery takes away their power to. They have him by the balls. Who would waste that opportunity?
(note, I don't agree with this, but it's just how it happens)
@Car Kulture totaly agree with you..even if john blood is legaly correct. i am not from the us . i am from sweden but it is the same shit here. even if you are legaly right to see a doctor to get your medecation or what ever...who cares? not them they just want someone to blame.. and were is it easy to get confessions from? people that have a addiction and start to have whitdraws...sadly thats how the world works
2 likesOk YouTube warrior, let us know if you have any other ideas for our police system
1 likeWE MUST MAKE SURE THESE OFFICERS ARE NO LONGER EMPLOYED! please!
2 likes@Ulysses Sus Grant Projection.
2 likesYour utter defeat is noted.
@Rifle Shooter Channel saying "I win" doesn't make you right lmfaoo. this has to be the laziest attempt at a comeback I've ever seen
19 likes@Ulysses Sus Grant Your tacit concession remains noted.
2 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel "if I say the same thing over and over again, it will become true"
14 likesedit: lmfaoo I don't renounce my position in the slightest, but I did learn something new today, I'll give you that. regardless, I still find it funny that somehow, in your mind, the fact I repeated a quip I didn't know the meaning of translates to an "utter defeat", which means you missed my point entirely and decided to focus on one unrelated and irrelevant thing.
your fallacious tendencies are noted
@Ulysses Sus Grant Your non sequitur is dismissed.
1 like@Rifle Shooter Channel the irony is real lmao. what a hypocrite
17 likes@Ulysses Sus Grant Now with the ad hominem.
3 likesYour tacit concession remains noted.
@FlyGuy2000 Yes, the detectives do have to look after his health while in custody. Just because American cops generally love killing, doesn't mean that people don't have rights. This man was guilty of no crime at that point. He has all the rights of any human, but while in custody, he definitely has the right to a lawyer. There will come a day when crooked, murderous cops get their comeuppance, and the times are already changing on that. There's rules to this shit! The sooner the police play by them, the sooner there will be less rioting/protests.
6 likes@Red they definitely don't do that! I've been to jail before and I've watched hundreds of females crawl in the pod and just puke, shake, sweat, and so much other stuff. I asked for a Tylenol and they gave it to me 3 days later after I filled out shot forms and everything else. They don't care about shit. They don't care about people that aren't in the system and how they treat them! It's insane what they do to their so-called"criminals"
2 likes@Ulysses Sus Grant The thoroughness of your defeat is reaffirmed with every comment you make.
1 likeThank you.
You are correct that when you say you want to remain silent and ask for a lawyer, they are supposed to end the interrogation, but they are allowed to come back after a period of time and ask you if you've changed your mind and want to talk. I suspect that they did that to him and he agreed to come back to the interrogation room if they would give him another Coke.
3 likes@FlyGuy2000 I don't know man. Heroin withdrawals are quite severe, they can kill you and you're definitely unable to think straight during that. It's like saying that officers don't need to cater to person who needs insulin, because they have diabetes.
3 likes@Ulysses Sus Grant You don’t win.
1 like@Rifle Shooter Channelalright, big guy, here goes. next up, this is the part where you elaborate and show that you have any reason and purpose whatsoever. go get em, tiger. we're all rooting for you out there
7 likes@Ulysses Sus Grant That’s not how burden of proof works.
1 likeYour tacit concession remains noted.
@Rifle Shooter Channel yeah, wow, that's not even close to what burden of proof is. maybe you should stop trying to call me on fallacies when you don't know what they are. not to mention that the word "tacit" doesn't hold any weight with how often and repeatedly you use it, even though half the time, it's completely wrong, just like basically everything else you've been trying to push on me. maybe try again now. either elaborate, or accuse me of something else you don't know the meaning of, or maybe just say "I win" again like a 6 year old having a temper tantrum, sure.
9 likes@Ulysses Sus Grant More ad hominem.
1 likeYour utter defeat glares like the sun.
Withdrawal means nothing in this case, law says a suspect can be held up to 24 hours.
1 likePolice doesn’t use YOUR right to remain silent, they can still ask you questions and pressure you to speak but it is up to you to remain silent.
We clearly hear the officer going “We talked and now you’re asking for a lawyer and I can’t talk to you now” and leave the room only to have Jeff back in five hours later in which we don’t know what happened. Maybe they provided him with a lawyer? Maybe he changed his mind? We don’t know.
@Red The interview ended as soon as he asked for a lawyer. Then he agreed to keep doing them without a lawyer so they did.
1 likeThey can question him all they want, but if he asked for a lawyer and none was present, they can't use anything he says in court. (That is, if they admit he asked for a lawyer) That being said, questioning a man for hours while he's going to heroin withdrawal is devious. I went cold turkey off of opioids in the 90's and it was hell. HELL. It makes having a bad flu feel like a Swedish massage.
1 likeI bet every single officer involved in this case is either promoted and still locking up hundreds more people with bogus charges
0 likes@Georg deVadda if you would like to educate me on the American legal system and your experiences with it I would be happy to hear them thank you
0 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel dang, you need to grow some self esteem.
2 likesJust shows that cops don’t treat addicts like people
1 likeAgreed.
0 likes@Mome Gnome Projection.
1 like@John Blood you have way too much time on your hand writing comments for someone who had “better things to do” in their life
2 likes@Piggish as soon as you request a lawyer and state you’re not answering questions the interrogation is over even if he had admitted to killing someone or anything else it wouldn’t be admissible in court
0 likesAmerican police moment.
1 like@FlyGuy2000 tfw youve never gone through withdrawal
1 like@Rifle Shooter Channel your tacit concession is noted
6 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel projection
7 likes@Ulysses Sus Grant You’re projecting.
1 like@Ulysses Sus Grant What kind of unperceptive person do u have to be to assume, I'm a girl with a name like Mr Evil?? Just like the rest of your palm reading you didnt get a thing right. As for the drug part, I know more about these situations then you will ever know...professionally. You said absolutely nothing and you said it too loudly.
0 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel oh, what am I projecting then?
4 likesYou must not know how Miranda works.. a lot of times people will ask for a lawyer, and then recant that statement and want to speak with detectives.. I guarantee every time he was put back in his cell he told the jailers he wanted to talk to detectives, so the detectives brought him back.. if they were trying to be crooked about it they wouldn’t read him Miranda every single time he was brought back into the interview room
6 likes@MrEvilchukky well firstly, I highly doubt you know very much about any kind of narcotics or addiction when you 1, don't know what withdrawal is and assume that people would do just fine if they "just quit", and 2, have no empathy for adicts even though, if you have professional knowledge, you'd know full well how drug addicts are mostly victims who are treated like scumbags by the system, even though what they need is proper rehabilitation rather than imprisonment. as for the assumption of you as a person, I basically just listed off the person who would have the least experience or contact with narcotics in their life, even through education. those are often the people who have opinions closest to yours. no to mention that names mean nothing. I can call myself Pretty Little Princess regardless of my gender, meaning your name isn't any sort of reliable source of info. on top of that, even if it was, Chucky is a hit with "quirky" teenage girls these days. the ones who don't know the first thing about drugs. I basically just connected the dots. of course, I wouldn't expect to be right, but on the chance that I am, it's a nice addition to my point. and when it's wrong, oh well. doesn't do anything to my argument since it doesn't have much to do with it
4 likes@Ulysses Sus Grant I appreciate your well-worded replies to Rifle Shooter and clear understanding of what logical fallacies are. I would like to point out however, that Rifle might just be a troll? And if they aren't, simply stop replying to them because the "conversation" is really just a back and forth jerk off.
3 likes@Strawberry Kit Kats I mean, it's fun to see him squirm though lmao. even if he is a troll, he got himself deep enough to get his ego hurt and is desperately trying to save it. not a very good troll imo
4 likesTo bad this is stabdard procedure. Even if you take their badge another one will fill the same role.
0 likes@FlyGuy2000 Maybe...but, at the moment he invokes his rights, the law enforcement officer is jeopardizing his case by continuing. I'm not disagreeing in the real world, things could play out different, but I do know a law enforcement officer that I've spoken to about this. He told me that at the very moment the person invokes their rights, he stops. There's no reason to let someone get away with something because the officer plays loose with the law.
0 likesBro the dude asked for an attorney I can guarantee you he got off
0 likesSo many young lawyers in comment section I guess I am old fashioned to understand this stuff
0 likeshis rights weren’t violated lmao do a little research in what his rights actually mean as well as the rights the officers have during interrogation
1 like@Piggish he said he requested to go back to questioning so he could get another Coke
2 likes@Red It's very common for interrogators to intentionally do this, actually. Attempting to harass and exhaust a "suspect" into falsely confessing has been extremely common for decades, only having been called out rarely for the last decade.
2 likesAddicts going into withdrawal are especially targeted precisely because of the ease of getting them to confess to a crime they didn't do, so they can seek medical help potentially (generally still being ignored, though).
@Gazelle keyboard warrior likes his own comment
1 like@Gazelle epic
0 likesThis looks like copixel gta rp
0 likesDamn dude, should they have offered him heroin so he didn't have symptoms?
0 likesI’m not a lawyer and I don’t think you are either I agree with you morally but can’t say if it’s completely wrong legally ^^, but officers are not evil they’re trying to do their duty it’s a difficult job.
0 likes@Cody bukosky LMAO, do your own research.
0 likes@Car Kulture these fools in here never actually seen how the police operate besides on youtube or tv. Don't give them the time of day. IF YOU KNOW THEN YOU KNOW.
1 like@Remote Controll hey thank you for that I’m not a career criminal but I’ve been in the presence of police officers more often than I care to admit and they have their own agenda which usually trumps your own rights, your right I need to stop feeding in to the 💩 thanks for your comment
1 like@El Zong Xina I could tell you I am (I do have a degree in law, actually) but you wouldn't accept it. I don't blame you as I'm not in a position to prove anything subjective to you. However, as the old song goes, "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows."
2 likesA primary duty of any law enforcement official is to uphold the law. The chap asked for his legal right to legal representation, and, clearly, it was not respected. Therefore, the interrogation was unlawful. You get no less, or no more, rights due to social position. That' s what makes them rights. You appear way too concerned with the administrative convenience of the police just because they are dealing with a down at heal character. That sort of mindset leads to totalitarianism. Minimal safeguards such as representation are there for a reason. If I had my way I'd sack any policeman who treated those safeguards with this level of contempt.
@Car Kulture no problem homie.
0 likes@fourstar fuel I just assumed you’re not because it’s more likely, I don’t doubt you, I have no reason to, honestly you could be a student of law and claim the same thing but it is not that essential for me to believe you :) I’m a dentist dunno squat about laws except for the ones that concern my profession and I’m sure I have much more to learn! Hopefully I’ll be able to afford a good lawyer if anything happens ^^ You used a straw man argument at one point and you went into a tangent about totalitarianism but I promise you I haven’t judged the individual in the way you have suggested, I’m just curious.
0 likes@El Zong Xina thanks for your reply. Just to say it is not a straw man argument at all. The reason rights exist are to protect us from totalitarianism. Denying someone core rights is persecution, allowing govt officials to persecute citizens leads to totalitarianism. Anyway, good luck with your dentistry.
0 likesThem and a million others, only top notch empathetic people should be allowed to be cops.
0 likesThe system is badddd
0 likes@Piggish it does matter. Once a suspect asks for an attorney the interrogation is supposed to end immediately.
0 likes@Sean McLaughlin most of the time people only know snippets of the knowledge they claim to know.
0 likes@PhantomSavage Doesn't that mean that they can question him all they want, just if he's dumb enough to talk to them before talking to his lawyer then nothing he says is admissable? Meaning they can probe for information to help give them directions to investigate, but the secondary investigative results (like them investigating a timeline based on what he said and other evidence from that) ARE all admissable? So even talking to them again without talking to a lawyer after asking for one is still a VERY bad idea for the suspect.
0 likesThey aren't there to find the truth, they're there to make a case against someone they think is enough to stick. That doesn't make them bad people either, just means that they aren't on your side in any circumstance if you're in their sites and that you need to be very careful.
@Lance Handy I don't think the offer is like a contract at all, and if you say that you refuse to talk until you talk to your lawyer, but then later decide to just start blabbing on about stuff and you've said you understand your rights then you've just ceded your right to silence. You asked for a lawyer, and then decided to interact with the police before you consulted with them, and that's on you.
0 likesGood thing you’re not an attorney because you were wrong on everything you just said
0 likes@John Blood the incriminating evidence is not “automatically kicked out”. A motion to suppress has to be filed and then the judge makes the ruling.
0 likes@George From down the hall surpression of evidence is one thing and can be argued in a pretrial hearing.. witholding someone from an attorney and continuing to question him renders the statements and the contents of recordings after the demand moot and void in court.. thats how the game is played.
1 like@John Blood and you’re obviously not an attorney
0 likes@Piggish than learn the actual laws because once you ask for a lawyer and have made it clear a medical issue like drug detox will be affecting you shortly they couldnt have even used his statement in court. Small town cops trying to get anything to use against a defense later on.
0 likes@FlyGuy2000 still isnt usable. Beat my charge because I'd been clear I was detoxing from alcohol and they used that hoping I'd offer anything eventually just to have a hope of getting out. I know better but did get the things that made my stay comfortable and the whole thing stricken at trial so you can say but I lived it.
0 likesHe has the right to remain silent, but there is nothing that prevents officers from Interrogating him.
0 likesNo laws were broken, no regulations or lines crossed.
They have a legal right to continue the questioning and he has the right to remain silent and refuse to give information.
@The Review yes, but his lawyer also has the right to get it tossed since he made it clear he wasn't in his right mind. Wether it should or shouldnt work is another topic of discussion but as of now it does still work and no informed officer would've wasted their time.
0 likes@Billy Hammond that is true, I was just meaning to call out how the original comment said they violated his rights. Although, thank you for the new knowledge.
0 likesoh hey
0 likes@George From down the hall never claimed i was. I just know what the rules are. Im also aware that those rules are broken routinely. Whether it be due to poor oversight, poor training or simply idiotic superiors doesnt matter.
1 like@Jinnie i take time to do what makes me happy at night.. trashing someones arguments using facts gives me the shot of dopamine that i crave.
0 likesso what. he was miranded,asked for an atty,and ? then this alleged junkie predicts his time table to start puking etc-
0 likesso freeeekkin whatwas he denied a loiyuuh ?
answering quesions ?
LOL
where's denial of rights ?
@BIGT100🔥💯 Hours on end* but yeah.
0 likes@Nicholas Hopper Well, I can tell you’re not a lawyer.
0 likes@Jinnie nah. Boredom and a sadistic personality plus internet just go together like magnesium and water plus gasoline.
0 likesacab
0 likesthey can continue to interrogate and pressure until they break him. its not violating any rights. The right to remain silent means you dont have to say anything during these interrogations, it doesnt mean that you can just walts out of the interrogation
1 like@Gazelle Sums it up perfectly
0 likes@The Review I just spent waaaay too much time out of my life reading this silly comment section and it's refreshing to see you actually live up to your name and are willing to review some shit :p
1 like@Michael Thompson Congrats.... best comment on this thread... you win the internet today.
0 likesHe could've just kept silent legally. Him deciding to give up information was his own problem as he was aware it was an interrogation from the beginning. Stop complaining about officers out-witting idiots. Plus no one wants to hear you talk about what you think you know. Especially when you're wrong :)
0 likes@Car Kulture I think you have an incorrect perception how most justice systems work
0 likes1. They cannot without repercussions.
2. They HAVE to care, since it's a medical condition. It's doesn't matter how or why you have that condition.
3. .... That's exactly what is happening when you ask for a lawyer. Justice can only be served if the defendant had a fair trial, which includes a lawyer at all requested times. They are legally obligated to stop the interrogation until the lawyer is there.
"The wheels of justice" don't move if you bent or break the rights of people.
@Gandalf the Grey ok sounds like you have it nailed let me know after you go through the justice system if it’s as black and white as you believe it is! I wish you luck!
0 likes@John Blood WITH GOD AS MY WITNESS THAT MAN IS BROKEN IN HALFFFF
0 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel that’s like denying a diabetic insulin, pretty inhumane, unbecoming of police officers but it’s what weve come to expect
0 likes@FlyGuy2000 that's false.
0 likesIs this what it's come to. Sticking up for criminals that would steal everything from you without a thought
0 likes@Matthew Griffin False. Diabetes is a legitimate medical condition.
1 like“I want to get high” is not.
@Edmund McQuincy Nice projection about your personal issues with your father.
1 likeSad.
@Matthew Griffin Which one?
0 likesYou'd think...but frankly cities pay out millions in lawsuits from OUR taxes instead of firing police officers that are corrupt!!
0 likes@Senior Venus Digital Actually the right course of action if you're a legally minded officer is attempt to reestablish dialogue without asking questions pertaining to the case.
0 likesThe interview in any official capacity is over when the suspect demands a lawyer and it only can continue if the suspect voluntarily begins dialogue or when the lawyer arrives. Otherwise it is a sixth amendment violation. Throughout these comments i have pointed out why, how and where this legal technicality exists, and why it is important that police not try to step on it..
The reason for them to not do so is that if it comes up in court, the defense can easily argue for, and gain the advantage if it actually went to trial, which a majority of criminal cases dont anymore.. but if it did, it could potentially put a dangerous criminal back on the streets merely due to this technicality.
Videos like this don't just exist on the premise that "duur police are evil" No,,,it's also that incompetent or officers that cut corners, can lose the state a criminal case in court and justice is not served.
@Angel Face No point. You'd need to remove the doctrine of qualified immunity. and to not allocate resources to departments based on the number of convictions or apprehensions because it puts incentive on cutting corners instead of good police work, which inevitably puts innocent people behind bars too.
0 likesFunding for police should be uniform across the board, it should be done by people with some kind of legal knowledge, and plea bargains should not be an option in the criminal justice system.. the system either works or it doesn't.. a good system works on merit, not by the willing participation of the criminal element it is supposed to stiffle.. which sadly, the latter is the way it mostly works now.
wait... you're not being ironic?
0 likesNot sure of the time stamp but Jeff was messing with them and kept saying he would talk to them for a coke and butterfinger.
0 likesAnd if he did commit the robbery? They just let him go because he's not complying?
0 likesLook at Mr. Phoenix Wright over here knowing the law front to back
1 likeNah, they read the rights then from that moment they try to get answers. After they finish the rights Jeff being smart knowing does not answer. They can pressure all they want regardless of his withdrawal untill it becomes a serious matter they can hold for 24 hours.
0 likes@John Blood keep preaching, maybe someone will care
0 likes@Lance Handy they were engaging in illegal interrogation methods by holding him for an additional 5 hours after the interrogation should have ended cause he asked for a lawyer, so no.
0 likesacab is kind of simplistic, but it means that the system makes cops bad. even great cops are bad cops when they do their job. the job of policing is bad.
0 likesLol watching Brooklyn 99 vs a law degree
0 likes@Car Kulture lmao dude this is pathetic, he's factually correct and if you got convicted after asking for a lawyer, it's either cause you signed something you shouldn't have or said something unprovoked. Any lawyer on earth seeing a conviction based on info got through that interrogation would salivate cause of how easy the case would be
1 like@Rifle Shooter Channel Jesus Christ this is cringe.
0 likesYeah as soon as u say I want an attorney aren’t they suppose to stop asking u questions
0 likesI agree with everything but the withdrawal thing. Benzo and alcohol withdrawal can certainly kill you. Heroin withdrawal can’t kill you. Definitely uncomfortable, worst time of your life. But not life threatening. Im sure in court he could try and say he didn’t know what was going on cause of withdrawal. but in the camera hes clearly coherent.
0 likesI'm as happy as the next person that we americans have rights, but If you rob someone at gunpoint, you have forfeited those rights.
0 likes@PhantomSavage cops dont follow the law. Thats just there to make a cute book called “law” 😂😂🤷🏽♂️
0 likes5th amendment rights are only invoked when a suspect makes an unequivocal request for a lawyer, David v. United States. An explicit statement of waiver isn't necessary for a defendant to effectively waive their right to council, it can be inferred, through passages such as spontaneous statements. North Carolina v. Butler. In this instance, the defendant requested the follow up interrogations spontaneously. Other accusations aside, this guy clearly waived his rights all on his own. I haven't seen any evidence from this video suggesting the police violated his 5th amendment rights. If you believe they have, point me to the specific violation with a case citation.
0 likes@John Blood you are correct, but wrong at the same time. My reply to the OP talks about "spontaneous statements" and "inferred waivers" that are consistent with North Carolina v. Butler. Police are obligated to terminate interrogations after an unequivocal request for a lawyer pursuant to David v. United States, but that request can easily be waived through the aforementioned routes, which did occur multiple times. Jeff waived his rights each time he requested another interrogation and each time he made a spontaneous statement following an invocation of his 5th amendment right. Not to be disrespectful, but I argue this way more than I'd like to with people who have no idea what they are talking about. If you believe my evidence to be wrong, back it up with case law to support your claim.
0 likes@Car Kulture bro he said that was the only thing you focused on not that dummy
0 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel in america they have to cause you can get hurt if a withdraw is bad enough
0 likesGuy just wanted a coke lmao
0 likes@Gaige Schaal they are only allowed to hold him without pressing charges for so long
1 likeACAB
0 likes@John Blood not u, u threw him off the steel cage thru the announcer's booth at hell in a cell
0 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel False. withdrawals are a medical condition bud
0 likesThis is so common here in the U.S., you have NO fucking idea!!!
0 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel Imagine simping for and making excuses for law enforcement after a year of riots and lockdowns. Smh boomercons think police are on their side
0 likesur right but will never happen
0 likes@Sam Yeah clearly rioters burning down cities are the good guys 😂
1 like@Matthew Griffin False
1 like@SkptX-Drogen That’s not true.
1 like@John Perry Ok
1 likei see you've watched a lot of hollywood movies
0 likes@John Blood are you one of those internet pseudolawyers?
0 likesYes. And the indicator on their washing machines main dial should be worn down to complete invisibility. Leaving it ever so complicated to determine which setting it will land on. Ever so complicated indeed! Mwahahaha!
0 likes@Car Kulture Yours is the most asinine point I’ve read in a while.
0 likesI simp for john blood
0 likes@J R no. Im just a guy that read up on the laws of the land i happen to be residing in.
0 likes@John Blood then you're not good at it
0 likes@J R id say youre wrong but explaining for the fifh time exactly why is really not worth the effort required to articulate my thumbs. Go on and read up on the laws, rights, their role in adveserial action and what happens if an officer, even unwittingly handles them wrong.
0 likesIll direct you to read further responses ive made on this chain. Good day.
@John Blood like i said, next time make sure you're reading the proper textbook
0 likes@J R oh i have. Go on now. Educate yourself first.
0 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel 100 percent true
0 likes@SkptX-Drogen Nope
0 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel so why didn't the police stop them? Not just last year but since 2017. Oh yeah they were told to stand down and they followed orders. When they weren't kneeling with protesters. And they blocked people from opening their businesses when they weren't shutting down churches. Violation of civil liberties but it's not our fault, we're just following orders and breaking the oath to service we swore. People needed their freedoms protected and the state said "fuck you"
0 likesI was a constitutionalist once, until I realized that gun laws exist and no-knock middle of the night and early morning raids of private residences were cool.
@John Blood The decision in North Carolina v. Butler specifically refers to waiving your right to council by spontaneous statement. So your reply doesn't make any sense. These rights are often intertwined. Continuing to willfully speak with police implies you have waived your right to have council present before any questioning and simultaneously implies (obviously) you've waived your right to remain silent. Waiving your right to council before questioning doesn't mean you've waived your right to council altogether. Jeff waived both of these rights all on his own.
0 likes@Sam So you don’t like The Constitution?
0 likes@S Campbell not so sure if jeff did that. Im a bit too lazy to analyze the video again, can you provide a time stamp on where it happened? Also these things tend to be more open to interpretation.
0 likes@Rifle Shooter Channel Thank you though, I’ve never seen someone so thoroughly embarrassed 😂
0 likes@John Perry I’m sorry words on the internet made you embarrassed.
1 like@Rifle Shooter Channel lol do you seriously like every single one of your own comments? That’s pretty sad.
0 likes@John Perry So you have no argument.
1 likeGot it 👌🏿
Point of fact: The term "antihero" itself was coined back in the 18th century, but it is, indeed timeless. Protagonists who fit the description date all the way back to ancient Greece.
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Good ol Rip Van Winkle.
0 likesHomie is just going through the motions
10 likesEdit: This man just TOLD his interrogators he wanted to go to the cell and they listened. What a guy.
Sometimes I play Jim's videos that I've already watched as background noise instead of music when I'm doing homework. I decided to watch the last segment of the video where the guy playing Santa in the movie says "Wish in one hand, shit in the other one and see which one fills up first" and I'm currently using every cell in my body to not laugh in the middle of class while some people are trying to read 1984.
1 likeThis was such a good, well put together video!
0 likes"You have the right to remain silent"
3 likesJeff: and I took that personally
I just love the title how this guy is seemingly just legendary to be called "the legend of Jeff"
0 likesGod bless Jeff he is a freaking legend
0 likesI think this episode was more about analyzing us, than it was about the people in the video.
1 likeThat one cop could read ASMR and I’d listen to it a hundred times.
0 likesI can't tell if these videos are supposed to be informative or funny but somehow I get both out of it 🤣🤣
1 likeAs a heroin addict in rcovery, I can tell you.. being held in that interogation cell for over 7 hours is fkn brutal!
1 likeIn all honesty... if y'all had an inkling of a fraction how bad that would be..it'd be against the Geneva Convention!
Can't help but respect this criminal. A true old skool criminal mindset, if only more people had is wisdom of police tactics.
0 likesYou have the right to remain silent....
7 likes"Jeff, answer my question. You can't just be silent.".
I do have sympathy for junkies. I've seen clever people turn into thieves. Other ones die. They lie, lie, lie but you still forgive them. Prison is not for addicts
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I agree. Now, only if there were a way to stop them from relapsing...?
1 likeExactly. Whilst I don't agree with stealing and manipulation you just need to look at somewhere like Denmark where their prisons are all about rehabilitation rather than punishment and they have the smallest rate of re offenders. Makes no sense putting people in a system that's gonna make them worse.
0 likesI like that - unlike Cliff, JCS doesn't roast this guy at all. I genuinely feel sorry for this man, because he's obviously a very intelligent man and easily challenges the interrogators, especially when withdrawing on Heroin.
0 likesJeff's normal IQ is on display.
6 likesLiterally going through withdrawal and having the cops mess with your head trying to put you away for over a decade
2 likesYou’re not my friend, you’re just trying to get a confession.
0 likesSeems like Jeff is the only one to figure this out
Jeff seems to have turned his life around now and he even has a channel now, called the same thing.
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could you give us the link to his channel.
1 likeIt’s up in the description under “the legend continues”
0 likesHaha! This cat has definitely spoken to police before.. he has learned
1 likeI’m sorry but “wam bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell” had me so dead 💀🤣
0 likesI don't know what Jeff did. I hope that he's a good character, and if so, that he finds salvation rather than destruction. However, because I don't understand his character or his deeds, I can only withhold judgment. This is something that many people don't understand the importance of.
1 likeThey've took your clothes, your shoes, and you're wearing handcuffs, but you ask, am I under arrest? This guy is priceless 🤣😂🤣
0 likesI remember a friend of mine dated a stripper. She was a heroin addict. It nearly destroyed his life… What a terrible drug…
0 likesThe only time i got interrogated the investigator pulled up to the scene of my arrest where i was pulled over. First thing i said is a want a lawyer. Released on ror next day and charges were dropped right after. Smartest thing you can say is nothing.
0 likes6:17 Probably the most impressive thing in the entire video. Jeff opened a can of Coke with his mouth. I would have found a way to cut my mouth up on it.
1 likeYou can't just promise the dude a butterfinger and change your mind. WTF?
2 likesI gotta say this is the most colorful interview I believe iv watched
0 likesHe should have just said "I refuse to talk without an attorney present"
0 likes"Jeff got clean and now works for the corporate marketing team for Coca Cola" I'm slayed.
1 like"Do you understand what I read you?"
1 likeHere's the real question: Do you understand what you just read him?
Hey, they told him he had the right to remain silent...
2 likesJeff was so smart how he handled the pigs. Be like jeff
0 likesI can attest to the fact that Jeff IS now a rep for Coca-Cola
1 likeThis part was the best part of the video in my opinion but for some reason it was removed. It the part right after Jeff asks the police officer for methadone(6:18). “Sometime the manner in which words are spoken can convey far more than the actual words themselves. The admixture of pain regret and acceptance in his voice is not only palpable but harrowing it brings us back to the essential components of the antihero. He has the singular desire to accomplish his goal to which the end justifies all means yet this desire stems from the scars of vulnerability and there are few vulnerabilities more crippling than the relentless burden of addiction”.
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Impressive
0 likesThe legend of Jeff continues to grow…
0 likesDid Jeff have an ad campaign for Coca Cola 😂
1 likeFirst he says, "I just came here for a Coke" And then gets hired by Coca Cola...What are the odds 😅
In other JCS videos, they say when innocent people are accused of doing something, they argue. Guilty people calmly explain that they didn't do it.
0 likesExhibit A @7:07
I like this dude Jeff. He’s smart
1 likeI got pingged for beating up a dude intimidating and threatening homeless Veterans (Which i was at the time) and stealing off them i warned him to stay away from the halfway house he came back around a month after his warning and tried to beat me up with a bat lol unfortunately for him i was the Battalion super heavyweight Boxing Golden Gloves two years in a row and i absolutely destroyed him he got carted off to hospital and the Police Arrested me i was 40 years old at the time and had never been arrested before in my life where as the guy who attacked me had a criminal history starting when he was 14 years old and the majority for violence the last being 8 years for aggravated Armed Robbery and threatening to kill a woman
0 likesThose corrupt Cops knew about the long criminal history of the person they were defending but the judge ignored the three witnesses, the physical evidence and his past criminal history
I dont trust any cops anymore and i served in the Army and alot of the guys turn to law enforcement or the Prison service when they get out of the Army now im a convicted Criminal lol For Defending myself in my own home and doing the right thing and defending other vets lifes a joke or youd end up ending it all early but only losers do that and im no loser
On his place I would kindly ask that Cop to win me in tic-tac-toe 10 times in a row in order to make me speak
0 likesI needed this after watching Jennifer's solution.
5 likesNot gonna like, it's kind of fun to see the detective's head slowly implode.
0 likesWe all got a little Jeff in all of us;
0 likesSick of everyone else's bullshit, sick of the systems' bullshit, feeling sick and just wanting to lie down and enjoy our sweet and spicy water.
In other words, the kind of tired sleep just won't fix.
I love that he finesses them for coke
0 likes1:30 i lost it here 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Jeff: Playing a good cop?!
Cop: No usually I’m the prick
Jeff: You look like a prick🤣🤣🤣
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He knows exactly how investigation techniques are taking place. He became expert on these kind of situations.😂😂😈
You have changed my life with this Antihero video. Thank you so much!!!!!!!❤️
1 likeGood on ya Jeff👍
0 likes"Do you understand the rights as I've read them to you"?
1 like"No"
"Huh"?
"Yeah" lol
Wow, this sort of blew my mind.
0 likesOnce they say, "you have the right to remain silent" why speak again.
1 likeWhat they're actually asking is do you stand under this body of words I have just spoken.
Do not answer!
"released 12 hours later"... Again, DO NOT TALK TO THE POLICE!
0 likesWhy don't they get him a lawyer, when he demands one. Isn't this illegal? He asked several times for it.
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Was wondering the same thing...
0 likes"You look like the prick" ....lvl 99 charisma :D
0 likesMan, that's a long time to be a heroin addict.
1 likeOnce he says "lawyer" it's game over. Cop needs to shut up.
0 likesJeff needs help with his addiction, he is a smart man you made the wrong decision and I would love to see him do a 360
0 likesThis man needs help. Decriminalize the drugs trade & watch society heal, Addiction is a health crisis
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Ueah
0 likesIt made SO much sense that Jeff filibustered woth silence 🤐
0 likesWho would win?
0 likesA century old system of psychology and coercion
One methhead who had just about enough already
I feel like people don't understand that alot of drug addicts are just starving artists
0 likes"i'm usually the prick."
0 likes"You look like a prick."
Why did @JCS remove the explanation when Jeff said "long time buddy." And the time when the officer said " thu gun that you were sitting on"?
1 likeCops: anything you say can and will be used against you. Would you like to say anything?
0 likesMost people: Uh... YEAH! 🤪
"you look like a prick" my man jeeeeeeff
1 likeLoL, Jeff is more intelligent than the interviewers.
0 likespolice: "you have the right to remain silent"
4 likesjeff: remains silent
police: "?????"
He IS actually really Smart 😁
0 likesDid the copper have a hair transplant during that 5 hour break! 😄🏃
1 like6’5? He’s going to the wrong court.
1 likewhy don't they give him a lawyer after he asked for one?
1 likeI guess this is why so many want to reduce funding to the police. They would have been better off utilizing a drug counselor than sending in more troops.
0 likesEveryone pay attention. They cannot proceed unless you've communicated on record that "I understand"
1 likeThe moment you agree to UNDERSTAND, you've contractually agreed to play under their system in which you will always lose.
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His charges were dismissed
0 likesWheres the full version of your video. I remember him reacting to sitting on a gun
0 likesSo I watched all of that to not even find out what happened to him :(
0 likesRat's are villain's and squirrel's are anti-heroes.
1 likeJeff's voice is cool
0 likesThis guy isn't anti hero he's a patriot that stood up to the government's agent games and civil rights violations. Once a person asks for an attorney all questioning must stop immediately and cannot resume until they have seen their attorney and agreed to talk. But the police officers keep interrogating him. There is nothing a police officer can say to your parole officer, to the judge or to the DA that is going to help you. The police are lying they didn't have any evidence that he committed any crime but had him locked up in a cage. The police have already made up their mind that he is guilty and no amount of explaining is going to change that. The officers only goal was to get him to admit he committed a crime to for him to admit as much circumstantial evidence that the officers could then build a case on.
5 likesWhat evidence
0 likesOfficer: ugh I can't *moves hands to a stressed position behind his head
Keeps asking for a lawyer and they don’t let him have his lawyer. Kinda fucked up
1 likeguy is a true cowboy outlaw
0 likesNot dismissing the "he's smart theory", I'm just more inclined to see thar this man has probably been through the criminal justice system enough times to understand the system inside and out.. I would go as far as to say that he's system and street smart.. any other smart would have resulted in this man not sitting in the very seat he is sat in.. just a thought.
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unfortunately a naive thought. its nice to think, im smart so i could never end up like that, but plenty of intelligent people get hurt, hooked on opioids, lose jobs, get disabled, lose support networks, and end up in situations like Jeff.
10 likes@Loki Averro thank you.
0 likesIf you think it takes just being smart to not touch heroin, you're wrong. I'm far from the dumbest person around, knew the risks and all that, and let me tell you, when I was alone, isolated and suicidal, that shit was something that made it easier to get through the suffering. It did complicate things, but I had nothing else.
0 likesDon't oversimplify things where nuance can make a world of difference.
Please allow me to clarify, especially for all those who use anecdotal evidence as fact, and for those who throw out words such as 'plenty' with no statistical basis.
2 likesSmart infers more than mere intelligence, smart also incompasses a person's ability to consider and determine the choices they make in life.. those very choices include and are not limited to societies moral and ethical standards, and the law of the land.
In Western society, (I only talk of this due to my living in and understanding of it) we have a functioning, and all round wealthy society.. this is due to the people who live in it, and the taxes they pay to keep these countries running.. this would therefore infer that we have a standard of what is smart and what is not.
Smart people get up, go to work, take care of their families and upkeep the society they live in, this is done through either moral, ethical or legal requirement or all of the latter.
Smart people (society in general) make smart decisions, I can prove this with just looking around me and opening my eyes, I live in a thiving first world country where people have made smart decisions to keep it that very way.
Now, people like Jeff are the outliers of society, again we can see this with our very own eyeballs.. he has deviated from the general social construct of good morals, ethics and legal following.
Now, he may have the sadest story known to man, this I have no idea of this, and neither does anyone else, but even if that is the case, if you are of compos mentis, and understand right from wrong, and you continue to make bad decisions, you are not smart in the slightest.. you are infact a deviant by choice, and continue to degrade your community, yourself and possibly a family if you had one.
If Jeff was infact smart he would see his bad choices as a hindrance to both himself and society, I believe he does see this, due to the fact his mental state is intact, I can also see this with the level of answer he is giving the officer.. and knowing all of this, he still chooses to deviate from society for his own selfish needs.. so again, he is not smart.. the things I have said may sound heartless, buy they are not untrue.
On a final note, there are people who have had horrendous past experiences and horrendous things happen to them, yet they have made it through and have chosen to become productive members of society, so do not do those people a misjuctice.
@Bored lmao that's a lot of words for "I have no empathy and use intelligence to feel superior to others."
0 likes@Loki Averro please do not presume to know me, you cannot make valid points by insulting others.. I would gladly hear a rebuttal if you had one, even if it was in contrast to my own.. I do see how my previous statement may come across as heartless, and maybe I could have indeed worded it better, however, it does not change the factual content within it.. I do see your initial point you made earlier on in the comments, and I understand what you ment by the comment, so in that regard I do respect your point of view.
1 likeWatch that show House where the main character is the best one there is at what he does but it comes some personalities that might be grotesque to the boring mainstream masses but Dr House for kicks loves to lock himself in a closet at the hospital and do fat shots of opiates “usually after a moment of stress or to reward himself” have u ever sang along to your favorite artists before. “We’ll take all your tapes and all your records and burn them because the artist that made all of them records (reeeeeeeeel fucking high on drugs)” Bill Hicks ———Tool
0 likes@Bored Your statements illustrate a fundamental lack of understanding of addiction. Addiction has nothing to do with intelligence or making "smart choices".
2 likesHonestly if they didnt have evidence against him pinned on him he has a point what evidence if got nothing on him then cant say he did it reason he dont like them because he been in jail many times and know their games way they work so hes not having it hes like you hate me i hate you you want lock me and try deceit me and i say fuck you im not talking good
0 likesNot me thinking he meant coke and not Coke when he said thanks for the coke.
0 likesJeff's momma didn't raise no fool!🤣🤣🤣
0 likesi was hoping for the "hello my name is jeff" :)
0 likesI'm not talking and I want a lawyer. Either I'm under arrest and I'm not talking or take these bracelets off and I'm going home.
0 likesYayayayay!! No BluDot in the middle of the screen 📺
0 likesYou’re the best !!
"That doesn't mean d*ck" haha true
0 likesWait, where’s the part where they ask him about gun?
0 likesThe whole reason I came up here was to get a fuckin coke!!! Legend!
0 likesWould be nice to know his full name
0 likesDudes I think he’s Jeff!
0 likesDoes anyone else find it very disturbing how easily coca cola can stand in for methadone?
0 likesDid those two cops quit their job out of sheer embarrassment?
1 likewhen you put "the Legend of-" i have to click it lol
0 likesWhere's the lawyer he asked for?
1 likeI'm also curious about why the videos are being shortened, this one was much longer
0 likesThere’s a very good solution to dealing with the “Jeffs” in the U.S. Do what Indonesia and other countries do, institute the death penalty for the scumbags that smuggle and traffic drugs.
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He's not smuggling them, he's an addict, and now he's an artist. This is quite the harsh mindset for someone purporting to be human.
0 likes@Dancing Pen nothing good can come from spite, no such thing as punishment just retribution.
0 likes@Ugandan Big Chungus Keanu Ebic Sussus Amogus Ligma I'd have to disagree with you. Retribution for what?
0 likes@Dancing Pen I'm saying that giving the death sentence to people just because of how you feel they 'ought' to be 'dealt' with is ridiculous, I'm just building off from your comment.
1 like@Ugandan Big Chungus Keanu Ebic Sussus Amogus Ligma It is ridiculous to just randomly murder people who have been on drugs, I agree there, but there is such a thing as punishment. You can't just ignore the crimes committed by a former addict, but the death penalty is way too much. I read another comment about how rehab itself is could be the punishment, which is okay as an idea, but difficult to build on and make effective.
0 likesK GMAIL (nerd alert)
0 likeshe found the loophole on the miranda rights, you can just stay silent
0 likesJeff was last seen bumming a ciggie off the ANOM shaman
0 likesOmg! 5 hours later! That’s a long time….
0 likesThat duded has been doing heroin for 14 years and he is still alive? What the heck!
0 likesWhy am I picturing Christian Bale as Jeff the whole time?
0 likesHe's the only truthful person.
0 likesI love Jeff 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesIf Nate Diaz wasn't an MMA fighter :-
0 likesSigma male behaviour right there (semi sarcastic)
0 likesI can tell you one thing. Jeff ain’t no musician.
0 likesJeff, the junkie with a heart of gold lol.
2 likesHe did all that for the soda.
0 likesthis guy is fucking incredible.
0 likesTried to butter Jeff up with a butterfinger. Lol
0 likesThis is the best fuckin Coca-Cola ad ever lmao
1 likeHancock (Will Smith movie) = ultimate antihero
0 likesNever talk to the police. Ever. They are never on your side.
0 likesWe need an update lol
0 likesJeff is so smart whilst going through withdrawal.
7 likesImagine how much of a success he could have been in life if he had been dealt a different set of cards. Man, this guy is smarter than some presidents I’ve known of.
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don't bring presidents and politics into this, thank you.
0 likesCan't find my favorite comment making fun of how women will ignore all his glaringly obvious faults for the fact that he is 6'5
0 likesI love how cops try to trick you into giving up your rights. Man asked for legal counsel and these rookies keep questioning him. Jeff is the smartest person I've ever seen interrogated on your channel
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They didn't, it was a different session.
1 likeAbsolutely!! Cops are NOT your friends. They are looking to put you away
2 likesThis guy could've had an excellent career talking to people. He's witty and has great charisma. Too fkn bad drugs stole that from him...
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He still could. Only some time has been stolen.
76 likesI know so sad 😞
5 likesHunter S
8 likesWow thanks for describing me in a nut shell. But rest assured I’m trying REAL hard everyday to better myself and become selfless instead of allowing the aforementioned vices to dictate one’s life 💯
Meth actually helps being sociable and raises IQ. There's a reason the nazis used it.
3 likes@Smoking Amalek it also has various health effects, most of them negative :D
15 likesHe been a great lawyer lol.
1 like@Silver Ghost Are you seriously trying to argue that meth (recreational use) is good for you?
13 likes@Silver Ghost Mondo says meth is bad for you. You tell him that he is wrong, then proceed to say all drugs are bad. That means Mondo is right in your logic...
5 likesI’m also skilled at talking to people, what careers can I do? I considered TV talk show host interviews and now I find interrogations.
2 likesThats so true. Hes a smart guy you can tell he just went down a shitty path.
0 likesNo, he gave them to drugs. Nothing was taken from him.
1 like@Bat Soup yikes, dude.
0 likesNo, because he's a social guy that's why he does drug. You just like his conversational performance, other people invested their skills in academic/STEM areas instead. He's just simply put his points in social and acting and speaking language
0 likesMayhe hes the way he is BECAUSE of drugs. Pain changes people dude
0 likes@Henry Bollinger I'm pretty sure the lowest mg of ibuprofen is 200 and the highest mg of morphine is 200 so it's probably a good thing doctors do that
1 likeWho's to say that it wasnt drugs that gave him that wit
0 likestbh addicts fight demons everyday its like u trying to stop smokin weed or nic u fighting these evil spirits within u
0 likesMaybe drugs made him a good talker, two sides to everything
0 likes@Dylan Ingram “the drugs stole his career”
0 likes@papermachevolcano in my opinion the drugs gave him that personality
0 likesPhenomenal Coke commercial
2 likes"you look like a prick", that's the most honest sentence ever uttered in a police room.
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Honestly the woman detective in the bonefish grill video was kinda pissing me off...
2 likes@Dr. Coomer Same. She was annoying. If I was on the other side of her I would think she was a joke
1 likeNah
0 likesDo you think he did it?
0 likesTake note: he did less than 24 hours in jail, but had he talked at all, they definitely would have charged him with SOME type of crime and he'd be incarcerated to this day.
1761 likesHe's eating a butterfinger right now, fellas. And I bet he chews with his mouth closed..
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10 likes@Coconut Xavier what's the link boi
3 likes@Coconut Xavier what's the channel name?
2 likesThat last line is so witty, damn.
3 likescop said no butterfinger because you didnt help me out. you mean help me make my job easier by incriminating yourself and so i can look good at work and to the prosecutor
9 likes" chews with his mouth closed " you got me there 😄😄😄. 🙌🏼
2 likes@Coconut Xavier I just looked up his channel. His About description reads " Jeff's police encounters continued "
3 likesThis guy is comedy. Ha haa 😄😄. Truly using his cleverness in a way that makes him popular. Ha ha 😆
Lol
0 likes@Coconut Xavier whats his yt name
0 likesMmmmmmm
0 likesSadie Ireland why wouldnt he have teeth?
0 likesSadie Ireland maybe many meth addicts. Not opiate addicts.
1 like@Coconut Xavier too bad he's not dead.
0 likesHe's way more honest than the dudes interrogating him.
356 likesI wonder where Jeff is today
0 likesBrilliant. Jeff is Honest. Jeff is cordial. Jeff Knows his rights. Jeff needs to kick his Drug & Soda habit(s) - But otherwise: A Very Reasonable Individual.
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I think jeff is living the high life of meth addictions... he sounded very Herione equivalent.
2 likesWait to you meet Black Jeff.
6 likesI'm 6 and 1/2 minutes in, have read most of the comments, and still have no clue wtf I'm watching other than Jeff choosing to remain silent...sometimes.. and lots of people thinking he's a legend..oh well can't ever get those minutes back can we😂😂
14 likes@Rick the Swift He's been in the joint more than in one way.
2 likes@SightForMemories I remember him saying that in the video, but thank you for sharing it just the same. Was there another point besides re-stating what he'd already disclosed?
2 likes@Rick the Swift Joint occasions.
3 likes@SightForMemories Ahhh...gotcha😉
2 likesHes not on heroin anymore. Hes still just as funny but hes doing good! ;)
4 likesHe needs that sugar his body is craving right at this moment. It's not so much the coke he's drinking...
1 likeDrug addicts aren't very reasonable. They will do most anything to get their next high, including robbery, theft, and armed robbery. Anything for the short lived high. Jeff only knows the system because his actions, often criminal, put him back into it over and over again. He could get cleaned up, work an honest job, gain some weight, eat healthy and contribute more to society than keeping the justice system busy.
1 likeThe fact that he can think rationally and keep it together while most likely having withdrawals is astonishing
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yeah. that must've been a really strong coke
68 likes@b m 😆😂🤣
7 likesFrom what I saw my buddy go through, it seems like it's easier to handle the more times they go through it
40 likesThat’s what 14 years of heroine addiction will do to you.
29 likesYou thought this was rational? Lol
5 likesI thinks he innocent or just a really good lying junkie 😭
17 likesAs someone who has been through withdrawals - I can say mental acuity is not effected. The physical impairment is horrible - but the mind remains sharp.
24 likesGo support Jeff and follow his youtube channel: syrenge music :)
6 likesHe has been a junkie in and out of the system most of his life, this probably is not his first time tweaking in an interview
7 likesHow can he ask for a lawyer, and the cops refuse it and still try to talk to him??? It’s insane?
9 likesHe knew not to talk to the police. They wont talk to you if they have a solid case.
15 likesThey needed him to incriminate himself. He did not and they cut him lose.
@Conrado FMC_Ny I think he told them he “was ready to talk” when he actually wasn’t because at some point I heard him say I only came here for the coke.
7 likes@Jacob Oliver r u joking? I've been a heroin addict for 17 years. In interview, after hours in the custody cells lying in the filth from my horrendous withdrawals, my mental acuity is not sharp.
15 likesIt ain’t his first rodeo...with withdrawals and most definitely not with the police. Lol
1 likeHe isn't in the THROWS yet. He's in the onset. Talk to him in 2 days. He'll be a zombie
8 likes@VJ M yeah. I wouldn't have been able to interview if I was dope sick. I couldn't help but want to curl up and ignore the world. Its all you can do to stop from shitting and vomiting yourself. Nothing is better than the skin crawling feeling.
17 likesSo glad I'm sober. I was addicted for a decade, I just barely passed more time sober than I spent high.
@Angel Karen Anne 💖 right? It doesn't even get bad until about 28-32 hours after the last sesh.
4 likesHe’s been through this countless times. Practice makes perfect.
1 likeFor me, thinking clearly during interview does not get easier with practice! As well as injecting heroin for 17 years, I've been arrested over 40 times and imprisoned multiple times. That's why Jeff is a legend! This man is Awesome! I really hope he got clean
4 likesAstonishing is a touch too dramatic.
1 likeYup hats off to this dude. They likely used his withdrawals against him. 👏👏👏
2 likes@VJ M Yeah, Im not to damn sharp , when my legs are jerking and my skins crawling all over my bones.
3 likesHe’s been around the block before lol
0 likesJeff has a yt channel.
0 likesShiiit you ain’t lyin
0 likes@schmay yeah, the more it happens the easier it is to tolerate. But, 2-3 days in without, those become bad withdrawals and you aren't going to be able to hold it together like this. He probably used that day or the day before, so he's likely not TOO bad.
1 likeNot really..
0 likes🤣
0 likesHe's a seasoned pro!
0 likestrue, not all people who get arrested are bad people
1 like@Freddie’s Overbite Practice makes perfect?? This isn’t a violin lesson! It’s obvious that you haven’t truly ever been in the throws of addiction withdrawal. There is no other way to say this except that every time I would tell myself “Ok this is the ‘last time’ I’m doing drugs, time to get clean!” THAT withdrawal would be seven times worse than the last time! So don’t sit there and talk about ‘practice makes perfect’! By the way, the last time... was the last time. I’ve been clean for 5 years. It’s still hard to hear somebody rattling a pill bottle. But my point is that the only way ‘practice makes perfect’ can come into play is through recovery, not withdrawal.
1 like@Elle vaughn congrats on a decade sober, that's awesome x
1 like@brokenAngel_{BlessOurChildren of TheWorld, AMEN} congrats on being sober x
1 likeThe guy is smarter than the cops even though he is a heroin addict, that's hilarious to me 😂
2 likesYour brain actually becomes sharper the more sober you get.
0 likesLmao that's every addict what are you talking about. This isn't anything new.
0 likesAs someone has a severe addiction to alcohol I kind of understand.
1 likeIts astonishing for someone to tell the truth. Jeez i dont take much to please you huh?
0 likesHe knows the routine is all
0 likes@Jacob Olivermind gets too sharp in a way
0 likes@Conrado FMC_Ny agreed, that was some bullshit
0 likes@BreakfastClub they probably offered the coke and he probably said "I'll come up there and have a coke but I'm not gonna tell you shit" and they took their chance.
1 like@Butt Snatch that would be Lynnwood County correctional facility. Same place being sued for sexually assaulting women.
0 likes@Butt Snatch good for you? I didn't and was part of a lawsuit a few years back from the treatment they did to us. Every jail is different.
0 likes@Jacob Oliver thats actually interesting to know, ty
0 likes@Jacob Oliver no tf it does not. All your mind can think about is your next dose
1 like@schmay that's actually not true at all, AT ALL. it's ALWAYS unbearable, however the severe WD symptoms don't start until about the second or third day in. And everybody has different severity in symptoms, and it also depends on how much he's been using, and it's very VERY likely that he is on Suboxone.
1 like@Jacob Oliver that's not true either, because of the fact the WD is in your BRAIN... there's a lot of uneducated ppl giving horribly WRONG answers in this comment section.
1 likeNaw bro he just switched from heroin to coke
0 likesHe wasn’t withdrawing that whole time. He was totally off his gourd.
1 like@b m it was smack u nob
0 likes@Ne Zušu not if, as a recovering addict, he calls it Syringe
0 likes@Sioux D ohhhhh DUDE that blows. Peace n live my dude
1 like@VJ M agree here. My partner was busted and the cops called me and told me to bring him in a shot. As a young 19year old I did.
1 like@Did I Do That he’s not withdrawing. He’s still pleasantly off his gourd!
0 likes@Angel Karen Anne 💖 he was happily crossing his legs with no repercussions there. No where near withdrawal.
0 likes@Beep Beep he was nowhere near withdrawals. Give him another 24hours and things would have. Been different.
0 likes@brokenAngel_{BlessOurChildren of TheWorld, AMEN} I’m glad you’re
0 likesNow clean! Congratulations!
@Butt Snatch whoopy do Tylenol will do nothing. Some codiene will help but in a real rehab it’s really all the drugs u mentioned
0 likes@Barry G hahahA! I actually managed to do that!!! Thanks to an unlimited supply of A grade coke!!!
0 likes@Layne Doe thank you! As a recovering drug addict of almost 10 years I thank you! Today it just seems like a different life or a different person. 😊 have a great day!!
0 likesHe’s probably been in similar circumstances a few times
0 likesI can believe a person could sit in that small room with no fan or some kind of ventilation (maybe it has?).
0 likesI could smell the sulfur/rotten eggs everytime he burped. 🤮
@brokenAngel_{BlessOurChildren of TheWorld, AMEN} good for you. Love to hear you are clean, BRAVO
0 likesThat's why he's still alive after a decade of addiction. If you can't keep your head together, you don't last long in that life.
0 likesIf he was jonesing he'd be squirming like a worm on a fish hook. He's not going through withdrawals. No way.
0 likesDude, what? That's objectively untrue. As someone who just got off methadone after IV heroin use years ago, so who has also been there, and as someone who has looked into what to expect during methadone withdrawal in particular (they say calmer but longer, I say the length makes it worse, but I digress)... there are psychological symptoms.
0 likesThe angry sneezes of PAWS aren't even the only thing. Even in this non-acute withdrawal, psychological symptoms exist.
Fogginess, lack of sleep, severe anxiety and frustration... these are absolutely symptoms.
Just wanna clear this up. Coz yeah, you gotta be very clear about this stuff. SO much misinformation, even among users themselves.
Especially coz it depends on the individual. Different people will have different symptoms. It's like the flu, y'know? Symptoms vary.
@jht3fougifh I've never seen a junkie in withdrawal acting as calm as this guy. And yeah I've been through dope, methadone and suboxone withdrawals.
0 likesGo through life WITH DRAWERS
0 likesnot drugs
You don't go into withdrawals until 24 hours. Jeff was experiencing absolutely zero withdrawal symptoms. Plus he had a very good appetite Coca-Cola and chocolate
0 likes@Safet Cucaj 24 hours? I'd start jonesing around 10-12 hours. After that it was horrible. I knew some really hardcore guys that had to shoot up every 4 hours. Depends on how much you're doing. At least that was my experience.
0 likesHe could definitely either just be buying drugs in jail or thinking about getting out so he can use again to power him thru it. Or maybe just a strong person but if he can manipilate so well I could def see him seeking out anything to help withdrawel that was available around him
0 likesAgreed. I'm surprised he was able to stay off the crapper long enough to do these interviews.
0 likes@schmay Nope. It NEVER gets easier.
0 likes@b m Does really strong coke help a heroin addict's withdrawals??
0 likes@schmay yea barely. but yea the first time you actually get bad withdrawals is definitely the worst
0 likesOpiate withdrawal is so ruthless. Imo. Suboxone and thank the heavens everyday I don't have to suffer withdrawal pain anymore. Feels like your being microwaved.
0 likesAs an opioid addict myself I can admit that it has a lot to do with how much options you have. When you sit at home and have the option to go to a spot and buy stuff, you cannot imagine the war in your head. But when you’re locked up and you know there won’t be a way today, it gets way easier. Still hell tho.
0 likes@Jacob Oliver actually when I was in withdrawals I was sometimes even in a better mental state then using, because there was no self hate for the use. I was proud going through it.
1 like@tamo 96 thank you. My point exactly.
0 likesThank you.
@Jacob Oliver it’s weird. Like my first successful withdrawal was the best time in the last 3 years, although it was physically the worst withdrawals I’ve ever had in my whole life, went two weeks cold turkey and was awake for fucking 4 days before I collapsed, it was HELL. But i knew I will make it and It gave me my hope back.
1 like@Jacob Oliver the mind remains sharp. I would say the mind even gets SHARPER and better when you’re sober for a few days the first time in years. Opioids luckily don’t change people like cocaine does if you know what I mean. You can get your mind out of it without damage, I’m somehow happy that opioids catched me, not meth or coke.
1 like@tamo 96 yes my last one was the worst. Never experienced anything like it. I was totally OUT OF ORDER for a month.
0 likesBut I did it. Cold turkey. I came out the other end wiser. Better.
It was almost like...serving in a war...minus the war. Sorry to those who HAVE served. I'm talking out my ass - I know that.
And then at the other end - colors seemed vivid. Emotions of course ran high - but im not afraid anymore. To exhibit emotion. To be stoic. Whatever. I'm not pandering to anyone.
And I'm under no illusions of being "better".
I'm just here on this planet. And I'm not gonna be a downer. Im gonna enjoy myself. My family.
Maybe even my friends (the herd of dumbasses that somehow I became part of)
I think people are just dumbasses. I'm just a smart ass. Or...hard ass. What were we talking about?😎
@tamo 96 I've come off opiods (this last one), alcohol, and I guess....meth.
0 likesOpiods lasted forever.
But alcohol was like...condensed. The fever dreams. Cold chills. Ect.
But I did then BOTH cold turkey. No one's help.
I'm proud
@Jacob Oliver and you are allowed to be proud! You beat something that breaks the most souls in half and I think no one of us can say that he did not lost a part of his soul to addiction. Im proud of you too and you motivate me, I’ve cuttend down so much, I don’t even get dope sick no more but I can’t cut it off completely. I’m so close tho.
0 likes@Jacob Oliver the war metaphor! I also use it. It is indeed going to war in your head and you fight ALL DAY ALL NIGHT I mean it’s so fucking hard. Someone never experienced it could never imagine what that is. You know the feeling, 3 days awake, just surviving and you know, this shit is going to last until it’s over and there won’t be a single second in the next weeks where you ain’t fighting for you goddamn life.
0 likes@Jacob Oliver I love your perspective, you motivate me a lot. Thank you, sir!
0 likes@Jacob Oliver it’s a Choice how we handle addiction. The withdrawals might get me but I’m never ever letting myself getting fucked from those dark thoughts and depressions without my dope again. It’s my life. I’m happy I made that choice, never gave up in all those years. It’s a hard stretch sometimes but we have to fight on until we win this war, or we will lose fucking everything. The sun will shine at the end of the tunnel, I’m sure 100%
0 likesI think he is likable for me because I see potential in him. He’s actually very intelligent (especially with heroin brain fry) and down to earth, no BS. People are tired of BS. He has a lot of potential, hope he can get clean.
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Guys like Jeff are why I'm a sociologist. People don't understand crime doesn't invent itself. It's rare that people are just actually bad.
39 likesHeroin doesn't fry your brain.
7 likesWe've got to unlearn what we think about drugs.
15 likesOpioids don't make you stupid.
Folks need to realize that there are highly intelligent , and functioning users across the world.
The biggest downfall for addicts is if you're impoverished.
Every problem in 🇺🇸 can be directly linked to poverty.
Every issue is much easier to deal with when you've resources. And money is the greatest resource there is here.
@Chase Anderson found another one
0 likes@Russ Olson Yes, thank you! It's a "society" problem...not a "personal" problem.
3 likes@Alex Loomis Yup. The "War on Drugs" was, is, and will always be total b.s. America needs to unlearn what we "think" (have been indoctrinated to believe) about drugs.
3 likes@Lee Collins Well it's both but yah we super neglect social causes in America
2 likes@Jo-Erlend Schinstad no youre not
0 likesGod bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
1 like@nigga turd God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering! God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you! Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)
0 likesOk weirdo?
0 likes@Russ Olson what is a sociologist
0 likes@Positivebird 000 I study how society effects people's lives. Criminology is a subfield. Basically, I understand we we create criminals as much as they make their own decisions. Like how we ruin people's lives over some marijuana. It's not random.
2 likes@Russ Olson oh that is so fascinating!
1 like@Russ Olsonso what’s they say about me
0 likesJeff is the master of the long con.
1637 likes14 years an "addict"
Multiple felons
In and out of prison
Fakes a robbery
Plants a gun
Answers no questions
Talks to no pricks
Walks away with 4 cans of coke
My hero
Jeff
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Yet he will always see himself as a failure because he didn't get that butterfinger
93 likesWhat's heroic bout that?
14 likesAmrit Nalam it’s called a joke.
38 likesThat was some usual suspects, keyser soze type of shit.
5 likesI’m confused I watched the entire video while reading the comments all praising Jeff’s intellect... waiting for some payoff.. common fucking sense at play here holy shit people
11 likes@Jo Slow it's because he does the right thing. It's not heroic or difficult yet many people far better than him have failed at just not talking to the police.
2 likes@Jo Slow you call it "common sense" but among other videos Jeff's is considered special. How "common" is that sense really?
1 like@Ron Becker An anti hero is usually a protagonist who accomplishes good things but not because of social values but rather his own. Jeff is no anti hero.
0 likesExample: Snake in Escape from New York rescued the president of the U.S. , but he did it for his own survival. Anti Hero first class.
0 likesSo that's the moral of the story? Well I'll be d*** it is a coke commercial.
0 likesFOUR CANS OF COKE
0 likesI wish Jeff better days ahead. Seems like a chill guy honestly.
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@5 and faith
0 likesWow he is 6’5 he ended up in the wrong court
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😂😂😂
8 likes💀💀
4 likesI laughed too hard at this lmao
5 likeslmao 😂
3 likesi had to read it twice- km slow but this got me choking
3 likes666 likes
0 likesniceeeeee
2 likes@Amanda Mack Hahaha me too! 🤣💀
0 likeslmaoo
0 likeswhen i read his height i was terrified for a sec, but then his weight (likely due to heroin use) made him sound completely ridiculous
1 likeI love such word plays.
1 likeCan someone explain I’m not native + stupid.
5 likes@Waryemez Ez the court he should have ended up on is the basketball court; basketball players are often tall
9 likes@Gar Tahk thank you. I’m an idiot xD
2 likesLMFAOOOO
0 likes@Waryemez Ez me too Wayne I had no clue it was a basketball court they meant😵
1 likeFree Jeff!
0 likesIf someone took the time to help this dude, he'd be a good guy. He just sounds like a good dude who has gone through some bad shit, and coped with it in a bad way. The cops were trying to exploit him, rather than help him.
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About 98% of drug addicts
33 likesTrying to exploit him? You mean just trying to get his side of the story so they can figure out who ROBBED SOMEONE A GUN. Lol. Man this feel bad bs is getting dumb. No one knows the truth bit everyone is so quick to say "hes just a good guy in a bad spot" pfft. Go hangout with him then
33 likesYea who’s going to spend 1000 dollars a day so Jeff can take a break from heroin
2 likesOh the taxpayers lol
2 likes@Suzy Rottencrotch fitting name
10 likes@Bloody Hell 😊 rehab is like 70,000 dollars a week for inpatient in the US
3 likes@Luis Sanchez The cops play games with people, every time they sit someone in that room. All these tactics and strategies they use against people are exploitation. Its justice when the guy is guilty, but exploitation when the guy is innocent. Where do you draw the line?
19 likes@Suzy Rottencrotch Sitting down and talking with some time doesn't require anybody's money
4 likes@The Trend irrelevant to what I said
0 likes@The Trend Do you think somebody gave him a pat on the back and a peptalk and he quit heroin or do you think the taxpayers spent close to $1 million so he doesn’t relapse for two years
2 likes@Suzy Rottencrotch It's not irrelevant, you just want to come in here and spew venom. Please take your poison elsewhere, nothing you have to say is beneficial, fact based or anything that is of significance. Bye
6 likes@Suzy Rottencrotch I think Suzy got cheated on by a junkie lol
5 likes@jjcoola998 junkie in comments identified
0 likesI dont think so really they wanted to be able to charge him for his crimes, it is their job anyway...
1 likeYou're talking about cops exploiting a heroin addict as if heroin addicts don't exploit everyone in their life to get the next hit.
3 likes@Dan C. That is not how it works pal. Most criminals don't care about getting better. Most of the time, their goals are to figure out ways to get sympathy from people. There are reasons why criminals reform rate is low
0 likes@Luis Sanchez ... So why did they keep him in when there was no evidence against him? If your argument is that he could've provided them information, he could've been called in for questioning instead of arrested. Literally braindead argument
0 likes@jjcoola998 No Junkie would want that headache.😂🤣😂🤣🤣
0 likes@The Trend not really less then 1% of addicts stay sober so it’s a hard situation to try and help one get sober
0 likesCops are trained to get everybody in jail wether guilty or not ,they couldn't care less, they are part of a system and they obey automatically to their trainings, the way they see it...it their job ,let the judicial system to continue to deal with the accused, after they've done ...they call the next person in.
0 likesWe are all trained to act in certain ways since we're kids .
@Luis Sanchez uh, that’s naive. That’s not how “getting your side of the story” looks lol.
0 likes@Luis Sanchez Did he get convicted though? If not, he's innocent.
0 likesI spent the first five minutes trying decide if Jeff was barefooted or if he was wearing flesh colored slippers.
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Haha! Same!
26 likesI kept staring at his feet thinking the same thing 🤣
31 likesHe's wearing slippers. I really couldn't tell. I barely saw the seem, but it took me so long to find I'm worried I'm wrong. Lol
32 likesHaha same ,I think at 16:00 you can see the heal of the slipper?
5 likesHahahaha, me too
2 likes@Kris S around 13:40 you can see him adjust/tug at the socks. Before that I was questioning it the whole video lol
11 likes🤣🤣🤣
2 likesI didn't see toes. 😂😂
4 likesHehe......Up lil the 2min mark when it goes gray you can't tell. Then, you may kinda see the crease or difference in shade at the meeting of the slipper and the inside of his foot. At bout the 6min mark I was like, "Dude aint go no wiggle to his toes....It's one BIG ASS TO........ohh! shit......They're flesh colored slippers. Dastardly." Their persistence shouldn't be allowed, especially with cameras. Some people could just be in a bad mood not want to talk to the cops and lawyer up as he does. Then, that's "game over. Red Rover!" Shiiiiiid! They know this too and assume some are clearly upset and do so not knowing of their rights. Doesn't allow for incessant badgering, bruv! Well done, el Jeffe! Well done, Lad!
1 likeAt like 2:40 you can see he's wearing slippers because you cant see his toes anymore
3 likes2:33 it becomes clear
0 likesSooooo what’s the answer lol
0 likesMe too...I thought what the hell?!
0 likesLet's face it, jeff was in control
3369 likesPlayed the cops like a games console
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In 30fps?
46 likes@Andrew. in extreme mode with an old Acorn BBC Micro with a black and white screen and no joystick
46 likesBars
11 likes😂 damn just get him a lawyer this taking way too long.
18 likes@HOT BOT i have a old Macintosh iici from 1990 what was it like in 1990??
3 likes@El general i were born in the 80s, and it isnt anything like it is now. sure technology has improved, but society has well and truly shat itself.
11 likes@El general Ahhh, 1990's were the days. Your mother was still beautiful and you were still just a twinkle in my eye.
6 likesSo much in control he was arrested the next day
1 likeI agree, I think Stephen McDaniels would give him a run for his money though.
1 like@ohshizabear wow u joined 13 years ago 😳
2 likes@RandomG Yupp. I'm your OG. Pay homage.
2 likesTHEY PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
1 like@Jacob Pickerin false. his youtube channel is linked in the description of this video and he explains that we was throw in prison for two more years on unrelated charges.
2 likesbars
0 likesHe deleted their game and made new code
0 likes@Michael D how? One talked his way INTO a prison sentence, and one talked his way OUT of a prison sentence?
0 likesHow could you even suggest they're similar?
free coke
0 likes@Dave Martenz huh? 😳
0 likesNever talk to the police without an attorney... final answer.
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Only exception is if you thanking them for a coke
27 likesBut i thought if you ask for an Attorney then they say you are lawyering up and that they consider you guilty after that? (Lol)
0 likesOr without Coca Cola.
0 likesJacob Lyman Bro, this may come as a shock but they consider you guilty anyway hence being in police custody in the first place.
5 likesAlways get a brief even if your a yank and it has to be a public defender to start with
Yep. We have several attorneys in my family, and it’s a well established rule that if ANYONE is ever arrested or feel uncomfortable while talking to the police, you should ask for an attorney. They might try to punish you by putting you in jail and delaying, if they can. They will definitely claim that only a guilty person would ask for their attorney, but it’s a tactic designed to discourage you because they know that once a lawyer gets involved they can no longer lie during interrogations with you.
4 likesIf you want proof read up on when cops get arrested. They NEVER talk because they know how the sausage is made.
0 likes"I didn't do anything."
6099 likes"Elaborate."
"No."
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Too bad!
25 likesI usually make a hole in the floor and go from there.
50 likes@john turtle you really think someone this powerful doesnt have the ability to no clip?
21 likes@ficken_choot ngl I've actually seen Caine from a vampire game I play driving a toilet before
2 likesThat's called simplifying
0 likesChad move
1 likewe watched the video buddy, WE KNOW WHAT IT SAID!
0 likes@D'KODA I'm not into voyeurism
0 likes@john turtle speedrunners: observe
0 likes@john turtle You can do it IN the floor using anomalous means. (Or you could no clip like chicken foot said.) Job done!
0 likes@john turtle Good use of anomalous ability. Do you ever know who got poop teleported in their mouth?
0 likes@SCP Monthly of course, my microbiome informs me.
0 likes@john turtleThe SCP Foundation want more information on your ability. Could you possibly explain more?
0 likes@SCP Monthly well, for instance e. coli bacteria is literally everywhere. theres a mythbusters episode showing it on your toothbrush, even if you put it in a plastic bag inside the freezer. every wonder how it got there? thats right, its me :)
0 likes@john turtle Interesting. Any more notable information?
0 likesjeff didn’t go to jail because of robbery, jeff went to jail for the free coke
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@Jeff Marco Agot LOL JEFF! BUT THAT JEFF IS A LEGEND.. I HOPE HE IS STILL ALIVE!
14 likes@Jeff Marco Agot Are you a free man as of now?
0 likesLoony free cokes**
3 likesLONG LIVE JEFF
1 likeI just like coke
1 likeOmg I'm dying at these comments 🤣 this is funny shit haha
0 likesjeff is free, here is his channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulYvX4eloUI
1 likelearn from Jeff dont say sh*t!
0 likesDo people ever dislike these videos? Because this is better that most crime shows on tv… Masterpieces each and every one.
0 likes>gets interrogated by the police
1186 likes>says “I didn’t do shit”
>doesn’t elaborate
Power move
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What else do you want him to elaborate on? He's just exercising his rights to remain silent 😎👍
54 likesًfr
3 likesGiga chad energy just eminates from him
12 likesjeff is the final boss
6 likesExactly how I write essays
2 likes@Patrick Bateman Ex-Heroin addict. He stopped since then.
2 likes@Patrick Bateman Hey man, Jeff is the type of guy who does what he wants. Jeff likes heroin so Jeff does heroin because that's what Jeff wants, he doesn't give a shit.
1 likegigachad
1 like@Athetos of Astora I mean he was a heroin addict...
0 likes"Jeff got clean soon after his release and now works in the corporate marketing team of Coca-Cola!"
2159 likesFreaking hilarious!!! 🤣
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Forreal???
4 likes@LIFE AS IT IS
50 likesNo. The original poster used quotation marks to show they were quoting the narrator of the video.
i kinda doubt that dude was asking for methadone
1 likeCoke-a-cola
4 likesHe was given a coke during the interrogation too
0 likes@Mauro Padrón no, it's coca-cola
0 likes@Barack H. Obama i can’t tell if you’re kidding or not
12 likesHe’s been applying at Coca-Cola for years and his commitment and passion for it finally landed him his dream job.
3 likesI was like 😳😲😮 wow!!! And then 😑😑🤣
0 likesImagine this was just an elaborate coke ad 😂
8 likesSeems fairly unlikely 🤣
0 likesthis is just pathetic.... Dude keeps saying he doesn't want to talk he wants a lawyer and they still keep harassing him for a confession.
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he was the one wanting to go there for cokes xd
107 likesHe was just finnessing them for free cokes
303 likesharassing is a bit harsh because that interrogator was reasonable
19 likes@Noah Thompson They continually interrigated him there for hours with no lawyer, thats harrassment at best.
135 likes@Hunter Murphy maybe I should have said relatively reasonable but I digress
6 likesand that's not what the original comment was referring to but ok it doesn't matter
all I was saying was that using the word harassment is a bit harsh
since the interrogator wasn't really intimating him or being overly rude
he even gave him two cokes
and I don't really think it's the interrogator's fault that that they stuck him in that room for over 5 hours
@Hunter Murphy - He was there with no lawyer out of his own volition. He could've had a lawyer, but he decided he wanted free Cokes & a Butterfinger. If you had bothered to listen instead of being a sniveling sjw, you would have caught on to that. Apart from that, he was taken to the cell at least three times. You can see when the cops take him away & the tape cuts. By exercising a little common sense, you could have deduced that more than was caught on tape was going on in real time. After all, you never saw him bargain for the extra Coke & Butterfinger, though you did see him question the officer about it at the end of the video.
15 likes@Marble Madness y u so mad bro
43 likes@!? scroll down, everyone here is trying to make their "muh i dont like cops they're trying to force a convention!!!"
0 likes@N13TZ based, i don't like cops either
13 likesTheres no “harassing” in this interrogation… I bet you have ACAB In your social media bios…
1 like@Marble Madness damn you went from some credibility to none so so quick it’s crazy!
17 likesWe know he was taken in and out. The point was, first time he said “I want a lawyer” the interview is LEGALLY over, yet the officer pressured and pressured. Eventually he decided to do it for the Coke, but the point was, what they did is actually much worse than being an addict
@David J. Bueno I mean, that’s a good thing to have in ur bio, but not the best… thanks for showing ur character tho.
0 likes@Noah Thompson if you say you need a lawyer the conversation should be done until the lawyer gets there . Not annoy for a confession. That’s just not professional.
8 likes@Vives yes I know that but really the interrogator was doing his job
1 likeHe should’ve ended it there but he kept it going for a few more minutes
Again you’re using the word annoy when the original commenter used harassment
And whatever the reason good or bad the interrogator went back in
He was probably told to go back in
So harassment is definitely the wrong word to use
@Kingof Grim we* yikes man get a therapist
0 likes@Noah Thompson he kept going for few more minutes? Dude was left there for over 5 hours. And they still kept asking him questions without the lawyer!!
1 like@Noah Thompson it’s jot reasonable it’s literally illegal..?
0 likes@Michaela Volanková first of all I was talking about the first interrogation not the whole 5 hour time span
0 likeshow is it the interrogator's fault he's in there it's not his job to put him in there just to interrogate him
and at the end of some of the interrogations you can clearly see that they're about to leave
how is that the interrogator's fault tell me
how was the interrogator harassing him
@Wanderingjew and how is it the interrogator's fault he's in there
0 likesall I'm arguing is that the interrogator is not harassing him
I mean the most bad thing about the interrogator you can say is that he didn't admittedly stop after Jeff asked for a lawyer
after that isn't really his fault because someone probably asked him to go back in
So despradte to get a promotion XD
0 likes@Marble Madness mans said sjw lmao. It aint 2015 bro
0 likes@N13TZ uh cops do try to force convictions bud... We even see it happen on this channel in other videos.... That is literally their job when they are in that room to get a conviction because once you are sitting in that chair they think you are guilty regardless.
0 likesPlus my entire point is once he said he wanted a lawyer they should have quit questioning him and got him lawyer. Instead they keep bringing him back in every few hours while he's going through withdrawals so they can try and take advantage of that fact.
@Noah Thompson fine harassment is technically the wrong word they were manipulating him is that better? or at least trying to manipulate him. I still personally believe it was harassment but still. They also knew he was going through withdrawals and used that to their advantage I'm sure.
0 likesI'm just saying once he says he wants a lawyer they need to quit with that sneaky crap trying to incriminate him when he already said he's not talking.
Harassment is the right word in my opinion. Once asked for a lawyer they must stop all questions and get you a lawyer, as per a person's right. If they ask any more questions after, other than showing understanding of what you said like "you want a lawyer?", is violating a person's rights. What is violating a person's rights? Harassment. That's what it is. Manipulating to get him to confess/incriminate himself for a few cokes and a butterfingers after he already asked for a lawyer? Also harassment. People can describe it however they want. Any further questions or "come on man's" is harassment and illegal. If someone is innocent they're rights are taken away, if it's a criminal, the case can be dropped because of the police's actions to continue questioning after a lawyer is requested. Idc if he's guilty or not, it's still harassment. Idc if the police are just trying catch a bad guy. They still shouldn't have continued questioning him.
2 likes@Kry V you said it a lot better than I can lol
0 likesHe thouth he would got him easily cause Jeff is junkie
0 likes@Noah Thompson what do you mean he wasn’t intimidating Jeff? That room is playbook for pressure. Tf do you think you know.
0 likes@R H how was it harassment?
0 likesare you talking specifically about the interrogator or everyone
"They also knew he was going through withdrawals and used that to their advantage"haven't watched the
@Bobby Australia that's not what I meant
0 likesremember I was talking about harassment
maybe I used the wrong word
but you should know what context I was using the word for
but whatever my bad
he wasn't insulting or being hostile towards Jeff
also chill don't know why you're getting mad
@Noah Thompson No he wasn't, at all.
0 likes@Alabastine why it's not his fault that he was in the room that whole time
0 likeshe did not end it when he asked for a lawyer which is bad but eventually he left
probably the people made him go back
he even got him a soda
@Marble Madness detaining someone and charging them without access to legal representation is a violation of rights. no amount of your sniveling is going to change that fact. if you happen to be innocent in which jeff might of very well been, then you have to really know your rights and know that the police dont care, arent there to help you, and want to wrap you up and move on asap.
0 likes@Noah Thompson yes. He legally HAS to stop. I’m blaming him for doing exactly what you said he did. I don’t see the disconnect here
0 likes@Wanderingjew yeah and he stopped a minute later maybe two
0 likesand that's harassment to you really?
and if you wanna argue well he went back in for sure the people at the precinct made him go back in there
my point is pretty simple I don't think it's the interagtors fault
(except for staying two more minutes after saying he wanted a lawyer)
other than that I doubt he wanted to go back in and interrogate since he asked for a lawyer
Jeff can open a soda, blow his nose, And make the cops look dumb...all while handcuffed.
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Lest we forget hes withdrawing from heroin at the same time
60 likes@MrGlowInTheDark oh yeah, all while withdrawing!..multitasker!
23 likesNot all heroes wear capes
4 likes😂😂
0 likesJeff is wearing Martha Stuart Blu Collection 2009. Tho Jeff The "Anti-Hero" Does Indeed Opt for the Snoop Dawg Sequin Shawl as his flight cape, unfortunately, capes are not allowed in jail as are shoes apparently. While the narrator asks us to put ourselves in the shoes of an addict, I find this quite an impossible task since said junkie is currently SANS FUCKING SHOES BRUH...
3 likesI say....SAVE THE COKE and GIVE THIS HILLBILLIE SUM METH_A_DON_EEEEEEEEEEE
John Anderson Not sure where you got that last part from.
0 likesCheri WasMe Jeff’s a hero? How?
0 likes@Mama Poch hey not a hero...ANIT-HERO
2 likesPAY ATTENTION
annnnd.... he binned those bogeys in one shot. Respectable while hand cuffed.
1 like@Mama Poch well the cop kinda set him up for the "you look like the p***k" line and I've not seen much lol
2 likesThat’s Jeff!
1 likeCoke cast in a commercial delivering cokes, loading the machines, drinking Cokes, waving at neighbors, getting an old lady's cat outta a tree all while handcuff. He's good! I can't even remember my safe word...
0 likesComing down in jail would suck.. Listen to "astra wally" by Rose Tattoo
0 likesJeff is so much smarter than the cop to the point the cop didn't even realize how bad his position was.
777 likesWhen you say you have evidence and the suspect says "like what?" It means he doesn't believe you.
The response of "why should I tell you?" Comes off as really desperate.
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As soon as the confession facade is seen through they can’t really do much
27 likes@Gav Art Yeah when the dude says that they aren't there to hurt you or catch you or whatever it's obvious bullshit. Like why would they interrogate you if they didn't think you could've been the one who committed the crime?
15 likesHe’s so much smarter that he has heroin addiction, Is/was locked up in a county jail, can barely talk and is overall showing lack of respect and education. If that’s what being smart leads you to then I’d rather be stupid (as opposed to being smart).
9 likes@Rick Turner smarter than the cop doesn't mean smart overall
15 likesBut you're right, drug addictions and jail/prison are not life goals
Jayla Ro not just the addiction of course, but the whole thing
2 likesDoug Martin you’re absolutely right
1 likeDoug Martin I genuinely thought you said smart referring to his individual being, I apologize for the misunderstanding. I stand by my latest comment anyway.
2 likes@Rick Turner no worries
1 like@Rick Turner I agree that some people are born by the majority's standards as pure evil beings, un-salvageable souls. However, because rampant police corruption and incompetence, innocent people have been serving hundreds of years of prison. It could happen to anybody so it's not a bad skill to be interrogation smart. Everything is relative, intelligence, smarts, skills. I would like to see you how you'd fare in an interrogation. You show no empathy for people less lucky in life which may be an indication with who you have voted last elections. You have this fixed idea in your head that hard work alone fixes everything and will eventually rise you to a comfortable and fulfilled life. It's not.
3 likesDealing with a suspect who is this savvy about these aspects of the law is probably outside of his experience. Most suspects would either begin defending themselves, explaining themselves, or confessing to whatever (volunteering information that the cops wouldn't have had otherwise), and here's Jeff, who just coolly says that he doubts their claims. Jeff probably had a good attorney at some point in the past who explained to him where and how he had messed up during a previous arrest, and he paid attention.
4 likesMircea Ion well you’ve got some valid points right there but what makes you think that I have no empathy for people who are less lucky in life? What makes you think I’m not one of them? As shown in the video, the convict said he’s already been locked up because of the same reason and he was just annoyed by the fact the this time they were giving him a solid interrogation. With that being said I’d still like to point out the fact that he’s still showing no respect or any kind of education for that matter. As you may be able to tell I’m no interrogation “smart” as you said but what makes a person interrogation smart then? And secondly I decided not to vote these last elections since the options given were quite “surprising”. The passive aggressive attitude you showed towards the end of your response to my comment makes me think that I might have said something to offend you, if that’s the case then I apologize, that is certainly not my intention I just thought I’d give my honest and humble opinion. Have a good day.
2 likesWhen the cop said "Why should I tell you?" I knew he was bluffing, or at least he was making an attempt to exaggerate the situation to tidy up the case on his table.
1 likeA proper cop would not have said that, it comes off like a brag, a proper cop wouldn't do that tit for tat shit in such an aggressive manner.
@Rick Turner Im torn, your comments towards fellow Youtubers are quite reasonable yet you judge Jeff harshly and make multiple assumptions in my opinion: (uneducated and not very smart, disrespectful, a criminal) Remember that:
3 likes#1: He is a 10+ year opioid addict currently in withdraw, surrounded by officers trying to get him to incriminate himself and we have no notion as to how much rest, food, and potential negative interactions he has received/experienced.
#2: Anyone of any intelligence can become addicted, its a misunderstood and devistating disease and while the person suffering from addiction does retain some degree of responsibility for it there are almost countless other factors to keep in mind when on the topic of addiction, specifically in America in this case potential factors such as: Economic/financial hardships, personal hardships/health, America's poor response to the drug problem "The War on Drugs" (prohibition, black markets, unregulated, misuse of funds), America's Judicial system (inherent biases and inconsistencies with some drugs [alcohol, sugar, caffeine, nicotine and pills] vs others [Marijuana/cannibinoids, Amphetamines, opioids, psycotropics, disassociatives, etc]), America's criminal justice system (reprimand vs rehabilition, #1 per capita incarceration rate, difficulty being successful after going through the system/lack of social net and the typical intermingling of hardened criminals and gang culture with nonviolent criminals/incarcerated in prison), America's lack of priority on rehabilitation and mental health centers, etc...
#3: Just remember, anybody can make poor life choices and their problems can become exponentially worse when the past/current residence, financial status, opportunities available, ethnicity, societal hardships, physical/mental/emotional health status, past experience with legal drugs (alcohol, pain management, antidepressants, etc) peers, governing bodies (county, state, federal) and its legislation/enforcement are taken into account. I would encourage you to judge others as you would have them judge you or your loved ones and even if people out there can really dig their own holes to keep in mind theres often, dare say always, more to people and their actions than meets the eye.
#4: Especially in this day and age when information can be biased, cherry picked, incomplete and often lacking on such subjects. Be wary of making assumptions and falling to cognitive biases. Ex. Just because Jeff has a country accent doesnt make him dumb or uneducated, just because he has been through the criminal system doesnt automatically make him a criminal/bad person, just because he has a little trouble speaking doesnt mean he is dumb, just because he has used drugs doesnt make him dumb, etc... [not saying you made these exact assumptions or that they are or are not true for Jeff, just providing examples].
I hope you read this and understand where Im coming from, wether or not Jeff is mainly the one at fault isnt entirely relevant because those judgements dont apply to everybody who share similarities in their life story and there is much to be improved upon to limit the number of peoples facing similar problems, and problems of all kinds we see in our country today. Have a good one.
Yeah...Jeff the junkie is a real genius.
0 likes@Rush2112 see the comment I made to Rick Turner 4 days ago
0 likes@Rush2112 drug addiction has higher rates of intelligence because they realize a way to escape nihilistic hell
0 likesMy childhood friend is exactly like this. He does not care in the slightest who he is talking to, he is always the same. It's a pleasure hanging out with him lmao
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How's your friend going now?
5 likes@Riooo He's actually doing pretty good, was working as a bouncer for a long time. Maybe one of the ideal jobs for him and his demeanour lol. He's also pretty much the same person, still.
30 likes@Chick? No. Quite the opposite, actually 😂 He can't stand it because he has to deal with drug addicts on a weekly basis, as a bouncer.
9 likesLol I have a childhood friend who is like this too 😂😂
4 likesIs it "Jef", "Jeff", "Jeph", "Jefph", "Jephf", or "Jephph"?
0 likesOfficer: “Where do you usually get your methadone?”
2134 likesJeff: “I don’t, I get heroin”
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Absolute chad
27 likesI FELT that 💀💀😭 ive never been on heroin but ive been takin painkillers for a damn long time and also the fact he says “long time buddy” when he cracks the coke had me dead lmao
35 likes@godsent gg I didn't want to believe you at first, but glad I clicked. This has turned into a surprisingly good ending. When will we get Jeff The Movie?
9 likesAs straight up as it gets
0 likes@Jordan Thompson for real, someones got to make a documentary or something
0 likesWhy would the detective even ask that like obviously he is asking for opiod alternative
0 likesKaboom.Not in recovery.Drip feeding cops facts they already know slowly.He go thru a case of coke.Once u request a lawyer interview terminates.Next time they speak to you is in the presence of your lawyer.He can even answer for you.Its illegal to put you in the cells & keep coming back & asking if you want to talk.The person in custody should not be able to change his mind once his made his decision.The only questions they asking is incriminating to you whether u did or didn't do shit.You won the police union lottery today. Your it.
0 likes@Peter Funk what are you even talking about
1 like@aleshia mccaw read the comment & interpret it however u want.Not to hard is it.Of u go & good luck.
0 likesJeff- "playing good cop"
6080 likescop-"nah im usually the prick"
jeff-"you look like a prick"
hahahaha jeff 1 cop 0
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That was a great exchange!
111 likesThat shit is funny! Ha!
41 likesI liked that one
22 likes@COVFEFE boom roasted
11 likes😅😂🤣🤣
2 likes😂😂😂
3 likesOhhh snap
6 likes@Kevin w probably what would have happened in most of these situations
3 likes@Kevin w Jeff 1 Cop 0
9 likesman i thought that conversation happens only on movies lol
8 likesjust read that when the clip played
0 likes@Kevin w then you would've let Jeff win again
12 likesREKT
0 likesI bet the other cops had a good laugh outside the room after seeing that.
8 likesThat's the kind of 'win' you tend to pay for down the road. The police can afford to be patient.
0 likesLol
0 likesactually thats jeff 2 cop 0. 1 0 for jeff was on "playing good cop"
1 like@snarley shark cops are an authority and people forget that. You must OBEY a cops order he is not your average citizen. And no, since america is made of 300M people there are actually very few bad cops situations.
0 likes@snarley shark do its your right to assault a cop with stones and bottles but not the cop's right to batom charge amd rubber bullet you?
0 likesKevin w I hope you’re not a cop lol
2 likes@AnOp 13 your head has disappeared in the sand. The 10% of cops who most would consider good guys, cover for the 90% of criminal oath-breaker cops.
2 likes@AnOp 13 cops are GIVEN their authority by THE PEOPLE.
1 like@Mark Jones At Large lol 300m cops and 90% are bad guys? what a joke. Strange how you americans know all the black's names who got killed which make me think there aren't as many as you all cry about.
1 likeMost cops are good guys or your society wouldnt be standing. Withaut cops there can be no civilization
Best defense ever.
0 likesSo i guess the statement "I want an attorney" means bring the suspect back every couple hours & keep trying?
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Here in Canada asking for a lawyer doesn’t mean shit. I spent 5 hours on video saying nothing but the words “I want a lawyer” “let me talk to a lawyer” and sometimes spelling “l-a-w-y-e-r” and never spoke to a lawyer 😂
357 likes@Jamie Kirby you dare ask for lawyer in soviet Canada? OFF TO GULAG WITH YOU CAPITALIST SPY
181 likes@Jamie Kirby By law they have to get you a phone to call a lawyer within 3 hrs. of asking , if they don't and it goes to trial you will get the charges dismissed. Make sure you ask to talk to the supervisor on duty and make the request to him/her.
115 likesSame thing I said. I thought once you lawyer-up they aren't allowed to keep pressing. "You have the right to have an attorney present before and during questioning" is just a trick of some sort to get you to talk, I guess...?
36 likesI think he was being brought back because he kept playing them and pretending like he would talk for a coke. He would get his coke and say take me back to my cell
94 likesOr maybe not lol. Idk they are supposed to stop
6 likes@Joseph Bridges - lol... Well, in any case, he was working them over pretty good. Kinda hard not to like a guy who's that cool under pressure.
28 likes@Robert Gantry Jeff is my hero lol. He saw three steps ahead the whole time.
16 likes@Robert Gantry I guess in Canada it is. They dont call it xanada for no reason, the whole place is fucked up.
3 likesHmmm
0 likes@Տςհաҽҽժվ ᏖᎧᎴᎴ Jeff may have more tar in his veins than a road does but those cops were playing checkers and he was playing 4d chess
15 likesBy law? He's entitled to a lawyer. But inside those walls, the cops can hold on the lawyer for as long as they want. What they wanted was to both imprison him and comfort him so that he accepts that situation and just takes it and confesses to something he didn't do (I don't think he did).
8 likesThey kept him in that room, in that facility, where he might experience withdrawal and become vulnerable, but also he was fed and freed from the handcuffs. The cops wanted him to trust them because he'd never budge if they antagonized him. That Aaron guy was probably thrown into this as well, maybe illegal possession of a gun they found in his house? They probably were all junkies, I doubt a healthy dude would let Jeff hit it off in his house. They took in some poor junkie with a criminal record because no fuss would come out of it and they have a quota. They don't want to leave empty handed.
In the US, once you ask for an attorney the cops are supposed to immediately stop any form of questioning/interrogation.. and your lawyer will strongly advise not to talk to the police. A lot of people say they understand their rights, but as these videos show.. they obviously don't. Cops aren't your friends inside of an interrogation room. So once they say you're under arrest for whatever crime, you should say "i want an attorney" and "I'm exercising my right to stay silent." From what I've seen and read, Canada seems to be kinda sketchy when it comes to all this though.
6 likes@Joseph Bridges Especially when he started doing heroin?
2 likesK A I thought Canada was 😎 cool and ppl nice?
0 likesIf your lawyer doesn’t turn up in the first 15 minutes you’re legally allowed to leave
3 likes@Joseph Bridges i know lol
0 likes@Gonzalo Golfieri Sadly true
1 like@Alice Fletcher lmao
0 likesSCOTUS has recently clarified the demand for a lawyer during an interrogation. Any reference to a “lawyer” and the cops must immediately stop questioning and determine if the suspects wants a lawyer.
0 likes@Jamie Kirby Similar in Michigan, near your border, not that I have personal experience, I just hear it from defense lawyers. They'll let you sit for around six hours to see if you'll crack before they get their acts together and let you talk to yours. And people say, if you comply, they'll let you...lies.
0 likesjeff in the throes of heroin withdrawal and arrest has more sense than most sober people I know. Which is both fascinating and frightening.
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vagelo420 he’s just been thru it repeatedly and know they games they play
12 likesFacts!!!!
0 likesAs a former Detective I 100% agree.
0 likesHe’s just at the very very beginning of withdrawals... and I’m guessing he’s kicked, cold turkey, on the cold cement and steel of the cells.
1 likeAnticipating the inevitable sickness can be worse than the actual sickness sometimes.
harmony331000 yeah “they games they play” Karen you so cray 😂😂🤣🤣
1 like9:28 At that exact moment, when Jeff said "I want a lawyer", the detective had a duty to stop questioning Jeff and get him a lawyer. Trying to convince him to keep talking is a blatant violation of his 5th and 6th Amendment rights, as was the continued attempts to get him to talk by the second detective.
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He didn't, he's just complaining that he did that
7 likes@Alex R He can't do that. He was trying to convince him to not invoke his 6th Amendment rights. It was highly unethical and unconstitutional.
194 likesbut he did stop interrogating him though. less than 1 minute later Jeff was on his way back to his cell. they can still talk to you after you request a lawyer, it's just not admissible in court. but they still want you to keep talking because you might give up some useful information. like if Jeff asked for a lawyer and then told the police where he hid whatever he stole the police can find that stolen property and get his prints off it. his confession might not be admissible, but that stolen property would be.
31 likes@Corn Pop He was back in the room the next day being grilled again after they bribed him with a Coke and a Butterfinger. The bribe itself was illegal.
76 likes@Alfredo Amaya yes there is. even if anything you say isn't admissible that doesn't mean you won't give them information that may lead to further evidence they might find indirectly. let's say you've been arrested for murder and ask for a lawyer, and while waiting for that lawyer you told the police where you hid the murder weapon. now, even though your confession may not be admissible that murder weapon definitely is. that's why they want to keep you talking, and that's why you need to shut up even after you've asked for an attorney. they don't have to stop talking just because you invoked your right to counsel.
11 likes@Corn Pop You're so wrong dude. Police have to stop asking questions once you ask for a lawyer and trying to bribe suspects into talking again without one is incredibly illegal. I'm not blowing anything out of proportion, it's the freaking law.
69 likes@Christopher Aaron yes you are, and you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. you've obviously never been in either one of those seats before, and you're not a lawyer. I've done 5 years so I know a thing or two about the system. Coke and a candy bar aren't bribes. here's a news flash for you: they actually have to feed you in jail. shocking, I know, but true.
5 likes@Corn Pop exactly, they have to feed him regardless of whether or not he talks. In the video its clear that they said that they would only get him food if he would come with them. He invoked both his right to remain silent and to get a lawyer, neither was fulfilled. He said that he has a heroin addiction, and that he would be going through withdrawal if medical care was not provided to him. No medical care was provided, which is illegal, and they purposefully held him for 12 hours in an attempt to make his withdrawal symptoms get worse - so that he would just confess, regardless of if he did the crime or not. What the cops were doing here was wrong, no question about it. Might wanna re watch the video to catch everything said again.
56 likesYall people who write this have definitely never been through the system
6 likes@Corn Pop The police must immediately stop probing if the detainee invokes either the right to remain silent or the right to counsel. If the suspect invokes the latter, questioning must cease until counsel is available. But if the detainee invokes only the right to remain silent, the police may reinitiate questioning at a later time, provided that they honor the right to remain silent.
23 likes@Johnny P What's that supposed to mean? The law is the law. The fact that police don't follow the law is a huge problem, so don't act like it's just how it goes, because that's how they get away with doing it again and again.
32 likes@Christopher Aaron Do they count as bribes if they're asked for? Pretty sure the law allows officers to give people shit like that to aid with compliance.
0 likes@Corn Pop Yes, it is bribery. And the fact that you're a convicted criminal doesn't make you an expert either. You may know "a thing or two" but that's the extent of what you know, there's a million other things you clearly don't know.
17 likesyou watch toooooooo much bs tv.
2 likesagain, you think there's unlimited amount of public defenders and they can JUMP right there ?
he COULD keep quiet,ignore them etc.
how is there a VIOLATION ?
get real.
@Hoagie Lamp Not after he's invoked his 6th Amendment right to a lawyer. He clearly said "I want a lawyer." They don't have the right to do anything to "aid with compliance" after he asks for a lawyer. They have to immediately shut down all questioning.
2 likes@no name Again, it's the 6th Amendment to the Constitution. The availability of public defenders is irrelevant. They have to shut down the interrogation until he has a lawyer. It's not "bs tv", it's the fucking law.
11 likes@no name Thankfully you're not in charge of legislation surrounding police interrogations. Questioning someone repeatedly for hours creates undue pressure and they know that. Their goal is to get a conviction.
11 likes@Christopher Aaron I know they broke the law, I'm curious as to whether it's actually illegal to comply with demands for sodas or candy bars when they get back in the interrogation room.
0 likes@Hoagie Lamp They used the promise of coke and a butterfinger to get him back into the interrogation room without a lawyer, so yes, it was extremely illegal.
8 likes@Christopher Aaron Is there any evidence of that? You must be pulling from external sources because the only footage in this video is from the interrogation room.
0 likes@Hoagie Lamp Did you not listen to the narration of the video?
4 likes@Hoagie Lamp Hell, Jeff's YouTube channel is linked in the first comment, go ask Jeff.
4 likes@Christopher Aaron I tell you what, if you ever get arrested for something please tell the judge you were bribed with a Coke and do the suprised Pikachu face when he laughs at you and doesn't dismiss your charges. lol.
1 like@Corn Pop You have no idea what you're talking about. I've done time as well, and it's absolutely illegal.
5 likes@Christopher Aaron It would behoove you to link the relevant part of what you're saying.
0 likesYou clearly have no idea what you're talking about. If the police find out information through illegal means, any evidence uncovered by that information is not admissable in court either. It is a tenet called "fruit of the poisoned tree."
2 likes@Christopher Aaron No, the law is a vague suggestion that's only listened to in like 1% of the situations. The only law that has to be listened to is that which is enforced. Otherwise, nobody has to do crap.
0 likes@Christopher Aaron I'm not sure how someone who knows the police are corrupt can consider "the law only matters when it's enforced" to be stupid, but I don't have two first names so I guess that's what's needed to get it.
0 likes@Viggo Macintosh They sent him back to the cell he requested to come back and talk to them because he wanted a Coke
1 like@Christopher Aaron just admit you were wrong buddy
0 likes@Christopher Aaron your last 4 words are was is most important...you can ask for a lawyer but they will still keep prying as long as they dont think they are wasting their time...the lawyer is for your defense but they might be trying to get info to pin on someone else...just like you see here...it was aarons gun, they wanted to know about that and arrested this guy to try and strongarm him...if someone asks for a lawyer but doesnt shut up, that is on them, cheers
1 like@Corn Pop are you the legendary corn pop that Joe was babbling about
0 likesThe right to remain silent is not the same as a right to an attorney. You can tell them you wish to remain silent and in many jurisdictions they can still question you. HOWEVER, the right to an attorney is dif and once you invoke that right ALL questioning needs to stop. If I was back at law school and looking over this as a hypo, with the facts given, my argument would be that the second interview should not be allowed because he invoked his right to an attorney and still wasnt provided. HOWEVER there is a question with regards to how the second interview began. If Jeff made contact and offered to talk for X Y and Z then there may be an issue regarding his waiver of his right to an attorney. Yet, we also must consider the reality vs what the reality should be and there are many cases of cops furthering their interrogation after ones right have been invoked, and you can imagine there are many more instances of this type of violation that is not litigated over. But, back to the legal side of it, it all this depends on the jurisdiction and the jurisprudence within the jurisdiction with regards to the right to an attorney, and of course none of this is legal advice and is just a hypothetical analysis.
3 likes@Sibte A
0 likesIt happens all the time in jail that it can take weeks to get methadone for someone, at least from what I've been told. Chances are, by the time you get your methadone, you've probably already gone through your detox cold turkey and you're pretty much done kicking.
I don't know if it's that common everywhere obviously, but I've heard that story more than once in my county. It's freaking horrible that they do that to people.
Exactly... it legit upset me
1 likepretty sure they always do this tho, they always try to continue to get you to talk and piss you off until the lawyer comes
1 likeand they're the people who read him his rights at least twice at that point smh
1 like@Corn Pop I agree that offering food as leverage isn't necessarily a bribe (provided they haven't asked for legal council, which he did in this case) but saying "Sure, but anything you say here I can also tell you parole officer [if] you help me out" at 13:10 definitely is an attempt at a bribe, at least from the suspect's point of view.
0 likes@Philosophy Of Élivágar I can see how people could interpret it as a bribe, but technically it isn't. by law a bribe is trying to influence a person holding a public or legal duty. when you're a convict or even a suspect you're not a public or governmental agent, so legally it's not a bribe. they all do it so it can't be illegal lol. anyone who's done any time will tell you a snitch will jump on your case just to get a Mcdouble and some fries. it happens hundreds of times every day at every jail/prison in the country and nobody ever says anything about it, including those who could benefit greatly from it.
0 likes@Corn Pop In the UK at least, bribery is defined as "the act of giving or receiving a financial or other advantage in connection with the "improper performance" of a position of trust, or a function that is expected to be performed impartially or in good faith." So no, you don't need to legally be a public servant to accept bribes, it's just that they mostly coincide with corruption investigations
0 likesTelling a man that he will receive an advantage if he "comes clean" not only discounts the actual impartial investigating the detective is supposed to do, it risks tainting the investigation with false evidence - what if the guy's friend genuinely had nothing to do with it but he wanted a good word so he ratted him anyway?
Again, just because it is common doesn't mean it can't be fought in a court of law, OP was only saying things he could fight in court, albeit the coke was a crap example compared to the several other times the detective implied a shady exchange.
EDIT: put it this way, if the det. said "if you don't tell me then I'm going to have a word with your parole officer about stopping you from seeing your kids," it would be extortion, this is simply the opposite of that.
@Jake Urrutia What does the guy being a junky have to do with that. Anyone should get a lawyer if they ask for one.
0 likesSomething about this seems wrong to me too... But it also seems to happen regularly without penalty... On this very channel, people ask for lawyers and then are continually questioned, sometimes for hours... It definitely seems wrong
1 like@Alphonsus Ho And that's a problem. Breaking the law doesn't become ok just because they do it all the time. That's a serious constitutional problem that needs to be fixed.
0 likes@Jake Urrutia That's not a good excuse.
0 likes@alex4alexn Not according to court rulings. Police have to stop questioning, bottom line. No ifs, ands or buts. They can't try to convince someone to keep talking after asking for a lawyer.
0 likes@Saitama • 13 years ago Why would I admit to being wrong when I'm very clearly right? I'm not a liar.
0 likes@PosthumanHeresy Civilians don't swear an oath to uphold the law and the Constitution. Police do. So yes, it's a much bigger deal when police break the law and violate rights. Derp.
0 likes@PosthumanHeresy The 6th Amendment to the Constitution is "a vague suggestion"? That's the most stupid comment I've ever read. The Constitution itself says it is an "unalienable right." Unalienable means it can never be taken away under any circumstances. The courts have upheld that right countless times.
0 likes@Christopher Aaron I agree it's fucked up.
0 likes@Christopher Aaron they also arnt suppose to profile either...but they are going to do what they want. Confessions are thrown out all the time for crap like this and you just hope they go by the book...cheers
0 likes@alex4alexn Or you prosecute them when they don't follow the law. Eventually they get their shit together and follow the law.
0 likes@Christopher Aaron Only if it's enforced!
0 likes@Christopher Aaron Okay, tell me what part of the detective's questions AFTER Jeff asked for a lawyer was unconstitutional? The detective was simply complaining that Jeff pulled that move.
0 likesMoreover, one of the rights you have after asserting your 5th amendment right is also the right to waive that right at any time and start talking.
So I guess I'm interested in what you are basing your unconstitutional claim on. Genuinely curious, not an internet battle. I see there's a lot of replies on this thread but I haven't read through all of them because it's a lot and seems like a lot of bickering. Also, notifications for youtube comments don't work for me for whatever reason. Not sure why
@Alex R First, the fact that they tried to discourage him from speaking to a lawyer. They can't do that.
0 likesSecond, the fact that they brought him back in to the interrogation room the next day without a lawyer with the promise of a coke and a butterfinger. They can't use treats to lure someone back into the interrogation room after the suspect has asked for a lawyer.
Also, we're talking about the 6th Amendment, not the 5th. And he didn't ever waive that right.
Did the video get shorter i remember it being 18 minutes?
0 likesWhy was the part of the analysis at 06:20 after "long time buddy" cut? It's was still in there just a few months ago
0 likesCop: You have the right to remain silent
2387 likesJeff: 🤐
Cop: why aren’t you talking to me 😔
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I'm taking a dump rn lol
51 likes@I like turtles same
8 likesNot that oxymoronic imo
3 likesJeff:🤐
15 likesCop: I'm a good guy
Jeff:🤐
Cop: are you mad at me 🥺
Jeff:🤐
@Girls in bed tmi!! 🤣
0 likes@I like turtles same bro
0 likesLol 😂 so true
0 likesLmfao u can learn alot from Jeff 😆
1 like@I like turtles proof?
0 likesThis guys have a fucking humor ahaha
0 likesA man has got to have a code. You never lie about a butterfinger.
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Alright, Omar.
1 likeLog Splitta Actually blew my mind
0 likes@hapakaja when I was using I never had any such cravings. Actually it was the opposite, I felt like whenever I ate something it'd make me come down a little. I always felt the effects of the drugs better on an empty stomach
0 likesIndeed.
0 likes@Alien Kill Squad ooh, yeah I guess I could see that.
0 likesDerek Walter Yeah that’s why the Cokes they brought were so good...sugar helps withdrawal a little.
4 likes@barefoot arizona you cheeky bastard, I love it :p
0 likes@barefoot arizona for a confession like that, they may even give him two.
0 likes@G M isnt it Bunk's quote ?
0 likeswam bam thanks for the coke put me back in the cell
0 likesWhy are we not seeing any more JCS content?
0 likesJeff has an amazing voice, he should be a narrator for audio books.
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It's not him, he hires someone to talk for him
17 likesHe's also kinda smart.
11 likesHa! He'd be perfect for "Lonesome Dove".
2 likesAm i under arrest
5 likesI'd love for Jeff to narrate my life, you know..
1 like"Once upon a long ass fuckin time ago..."
9 likeshe's got awesome feet too. he should do feet modeling, kind of socks or flip flops commercials
1 likeKazi Mujammel they were talking about jeff not jim
0 likesExcept, when it's time to record, he may use his right to remain silent.
0 likes"It was a dark and stormy... Wait a second how the fuck would I know? I'm not reading this shit, where's that Coke?"
0 likesFr tho, what happened to Jeff?
0 likesMy man Jeff out here in jail suspected of robbery still managing to steal 2 cokes while he's at it. Untold levels of respect for that man.
89 likesCop: Let me read this.
2672 likesJeff: No!
Cop: Yes!
Jeff: Cause I'm not gonna sign it!
Cop: You don't have to sign it. Let me read it for you.
Jeff: I'm not signing nothing.
Cop: You don't have to sign it. We'll read it.
Jeff: You already read it to me earlier.
Cop: I know we did, but Imma read it to you again.
Jeff: Thanks for the Coke.
Cop: You're welcome.
This is beautiful.
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Very beautiful
21 likesWondrous coke
8 likesif you read this without context it could pass as a tarantino movie
51 likespoetic, I'd say.
4 likes@VoltBox fucking true XDDDDDDD
2 likes@VoltBox lol
2 likesI accidentally read this AS it played in the video. lol
2 likes@VoltBox my exact thought
0 likesLoooong time buddy :/
0 likesDude's name is Jeff
0 likesInstead of putting Jeff in jail for possibly the rest of his life they should put him in rehab for his heroin addiction
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I love this comment as it gives me hope!
47 likesI haven’t had personal experience with addiction because my mental health intervened before I had the chance to get addicted to substances (though I do realize I’d easily end up down that road if in the wrong place at the wrong time)
My time in intensive outpatient programs and inpatient/ psych ward etc,
I have met people with addictions and Ive loved them. And they have an illness, as do I. We’re not so different,
Which stands even in terms of the public and demonizing us and wanting us to suffer in prison instead of be helped to better ourselves even if we never are the “ideal” members of society.
It’s the same team, and our stigmas are incredibly similar if not actually the same.
Just wish it was easier to help people understand and be able to feel something about those of us who cannot help bad situations out of pure unlucky circumstance.
@Amie Crowsong idk if you have mental health problems now but people with depression are really prone to addiction maybe thats why you feel a similarity
24 likesFuck that. Let him live his life. Maybe he's truly living the dream?
8 likesRehab isn't as satisfying as Heroin.
1 likeAh, I see you're mistakenly under the impression that the justice system's goal has anything to do with rehabilitation
18 likesI've had enough people in my life who have went to rehab and then went right out as soon as they could and continued on drugs. Thats not gonna do anything unless the person is truly willing, and he doesn't seem like that.
2 likes@M e l But throwing them in a corrupted prison system doesn’t help much either.
10 likes@Yandere boy enthusiast it does when they're committing violent crimes against law abiding citizens.
2 likes@Ben McMillian Even then, addiction isn’t solved by throwing someone in a cell with other violent people. Our prison system doesn’t heal or rehabilitate, and only breeds more hatred and violence. The places with the lowest crime rates on the planet all have one thing in common- a prison system that focuses on rehabilitation for those who can be saved rather than caging them in, tormenting them, and then throwing them back into the world and telling them to cope. People cope the only way they know how, and often times- for people thrown in jail for drug charges, that ends up being more drugs.
6 likesForget jail, give him a TV show
0 likes@Scott Yeomans data?
1 likeThat would make too much sense. We dont do commn sense over here
0 likes@Yandere boy enthusiast there are judges in america who have a 85% reduction in reofences because of their creative "punishments" jail should only be for violent people in my opinion like rapists and murderers and repeat offenders. Everything else should be some form of community service righting the wrong. It is supposed to be a punishment though not an all inclusive vacation.
1 like@farmerchick Everything else?
0 likes@Scott Yeomans because addiction is rough. Most addicts relapse.
0 likes@Scott Yeomans You're being generous. I've been in more times then care to admit. Every rehab i went to they (professionals) would always start by saying "out of the 30-40 people in this room right now, one or two will remain clean/not relapse.
0 likesSame old story same old result. That shit does not work.
0 likes@C Reb sorry you seriously don’t know how commies treated drug addicts? 😂
0 likesFor a moment i thought it was the creepypasta jeff the killer
0 likesWhere is that butterfinger you promised ?
0 likescan’t believe i’m saying this.
939 likesi want the confidence and conviction of Jeff when i grow up.
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You gotta admire the fact that hes honest and doesnt deal in bullshit.
71 likes@charles wheelock 💀
2 likes@charles wheelock You didn’t have to do jeff like that 😭😭
9 likesConfidence under the guise of years substance abuse. Not something to be proud of. I would hate to become anything like this guy.
1 like@Ruggard
15 likesNewsflash, heroine doesn't make you confident. If anything, anxiety is typically heightened dramatically during withdrawals
Like him or not, confident is an apt description in how he presents
I thought that too but im pretty sure its the confidence of someone with barely anything to lose
6 likesThat was because he wasn't guilty of that particular charge
3 likes@Portland Goose yeah no, that’s not something to joke about
2 likesYou want his confidence not convictions
1 likeHe gets them from being at the bottom of a pit with nothing to loose for several years. Be careful.
0 likesmaybe not the conviction
0 likesDon't tell your parents you want to be like Jeff😂
1 likeAll drug addicts are like him... So you are wise not believing what you are saying
0 likesAs a recovering addict, I can tell you how friggin hard it is to do anything at all while dopesick, or in withdrawal.let alone act like this. This guy got some deep well of reserve energy he's able to tap.
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It's the coke! (not that kind)
11 likesI was thinking the same thing it gave me anxiety knowing he was withdrawing I’m an opiate addict it’s unbearable as you know
7 likes@Chloe Kit yes, it's quite possibly the absolute worst possible way to want to speak to an authority figure. Idk bout u, but for me, it was the anxiety and the restlessness, I could deal with the tummy aches, the no appetite, the pukes, the sweats the shits. When anxiety peaked though and my legs started bouncing I wouldve robbed my Nanna on her bday while she was getting treatment in a hospital. Dopesick is the worst, the absolute worst
3 likes@Chloe Kit how are you now, having any luck with kicking? Sorry not prying. I just know the ache, its hard.
1 likeMy daughter is a recovering heroin addict, and a therapist once told me that withdrawal is unbearable — like the worst influenza ever — most addicts can’t withstand it without doing a ‘medical detox.’ . . . So, go Jeff!!! 💪🏼 💪🏼
3 likesHe works at the Game Stop by my house
0 likes“you have the right to remain silent”
29219 likesjeff: remains silent
“...do you understand?”
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Hahha
191 likes😂😂😂
62 likesread this comment just as it happened😂
177 likesWhat can I say, the man’s committed
297 likesI mean he does have the right he’s not wrong lol
184 likesJeff...? Yeah, where's that come at? 😂
10 likes@Lucasio alas that is the fate of a popular YouTube comment
14 likesI peeped that 😂 this man is funny
3 likesLucas Meehan i didnt copy this lmao. I saw it as it happened, then made the comment. It was probably just parallel thinking lol.
6 likesThats what i thought lol
0 likes"I'm sorry. I can't do that, Dave."
9 likesLet’s keep silent
3 likesYou have the right to remain silent means you don't have to talk about the charges filed against you, so you don't incriminate yourself. They need to know if you understand. If you don't, they will get someone to help you.
8 likes................
3 likesJust for record, you still have to mention that you are invoking your right to remain silent. *edit- he invoked it when he said " I'm not going to talk to you, I want a lawyer."
24 likesi mean he ain’t wrong 😂
3 likesFucking legend
5 likesbullsi20 ...He just said the man was committed. If anything he was adding onto my joke. I dont think for a second that it went over his head
3 likesHaha
0 likesTo keep silent
0 likesdonkzz same here
0 likesI was thinking that too. The cop just told Jeff he can remain silent and then he's shocked that Jeff remains silent 😂
11 likesMalicious compliance
2 likesI need heroin.
2 likesObviously the cop does not understand silent.
1 like@Dakota DellaFera one does not need to understand nor speak. In legal speak if you say yes, it means you agree.
0 likesunga bunga lol
1 likeSmart lawyer said “never once has a lawyer said thank God he talked to the police”
7 likesReminds me of Blackadder goes forth...... permission to speak.
2 likesBRO WE HAVE THE SAME USERNAME
2 likesLoool
0 likes@Cognitive Dissonance Ha That was a good reference!
0 likesApparently you can't just remain silent. You have to invoke your right to remain silent clearly. Oh well
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0 likesWe uuuuu we need uu
0 likesUuuuuuuu
0 likesWe ui
0 likesWe uiu
0 likesUI’m has up us some ups uiu
0 likesI’m still
0 likesWe up uiuuuuuu
0 likesWe uout
0 likesUuuuuuuu
0 likesI’m sorry uiu I gotta u
0 likesWe uiu we
0 likesI’m uiuiuuuiuiuiuu
0 likes@Jeff Marco Agot I watched this video because my name is Jeff.
0 likesAhahaha! His silence means yes...? Hahaaaa great post!
0 likes69th comment.
0 likesSorry for my 70th comment
0 likes`
0 likesWhile it seems silly to keep asking a silent man if he understands his rights they are required to ensure that the suspect understands their rights before proceeding because its much more than the right to remain silent
0 likesExactly what I was thinking lmfao
0 likesHow cant you not laugh lol..
0 likesFKN PMSL @ THT PART
0 likes.
0 likes💯😂😂
0 likesLol i wana mary u
0 likes😂😂😂
0 likesThis interrogator isn't following accepted practice. I've read in books and also see in these videos that the technique is to get in the suspect's personal space and stay there. In other videos you'll see the cop pull their chair right up to the suspect. Sometimes the cop will push their knee in between the suspects knees.
2 likesIt's all psychological to keep the suspect from feeling like they have room to breathe between them and the cop and gaining the confidence to either lie or stay quiet. Getting in their space keeps them off guard and vulnerable.
So it's weird this cop keeps a table between them and gives Jeff plenty of personal space.
Jeff is a prime example of knowing to never talk to the cops. Even if you truly are innocent, they can still use your words to paint a narrative THEY want, and the system will back them instead of you.
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Exactly had a lawyer tell me to never talk to cops just give them your name date of birth and you want your lawyer
22 likesits true most cops are looking for stripes they dont care if you are guilty or innocent they just want to frame you for personal gains
6 likesAlways lawyer up, rather be safe then sorry
1 like@Tigris RGN That's unnecessarily cynical; it's not for personal gains, it's just that giving your account immediately sets them off trying to disprove your word instead of looking for actual evidence. There's a difference between framing someone and unfairly tunnel-visioning your investigation. As OP said, it's their narrative.
5 likes@Philosophy Of Élivágar Denying the personal gains the cops absolutely get either boosting their ego or going through the ranks is disengenous.
0 likesAnything you say CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU.
1 likeSimple as that. Nothing you say in that room will do anything but hurt you.
@Tahtahme's Diary Do you know how bad detectives look when it comes out they imprisoned a man on superficial evidence? I suggest you look at JCS' Guilty Until Proven Innocent in which the lead detective and three investigators were demoted and suspended without pay for holding an innocent guy in jail for three days. It's not quite as simple as just 'ascending the ranks,' there are literal courts which argue the validity and reasonability of your evidence.
1 likeAnyway that's besides the point. A cop doesn't need your word to frame you, in fact not talking lets them get creative. My point is that the detective doesn't even need to be dirty for your testimony to backfire on you, not that there are no such things as dirty cops.
The real dirty cops are the ones on the street that don't need a judge and jury to support their charges/behaviour
@William Fetters Lmao I never get how people hear that line and continue talking, does the Miranda right need to include a slap on the face, too? 😂
0 likesMy name is Jeff, My name is Jeff, Dirty rotten Coppers
0 likesi like hash more than beer
1 likeHe’s asked for a lawyer multiple times, any judge worth their salt would throw any questioning away regardless. Good for this guy. At least he knows his rights unlike some people.
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Probably why the case was dropped, once any lawyer sees that , very unethical police work
3 likesso he asked for a loiyuuh and no magic genie got one there immediately aaaaaand was miranda'd/read the warning and so fkkin WHAT IF HE yaps on to questions.
0 likesso what JUDGE worth this alleged SALT can toss anything STATED ?
LOL
So WhAm, BaM, ThAnK YoU FoR ThE CoKe, TaKe Me BaCk To My CeLL!
0 likesReading his rights EVERY TIME??? What is this??
0 likescoca cola is good when u don't have heroin & u need heroin_
0 likesi used that crap from 17 years ☺️
Shambolic policing
0 likesOfficer: You have the right to remain silent
1208 likesJeff: *stays silent*
Officer: Excuse me W H A T ?
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Officer: you have the right to remain silent
37 likesJeff: that was your first mistake
@Tan bruh
10 likes@Tan ok...
6 likes@Tan fr these jokes are so overused and cringe lmao
3 likesThere’s no way jeff is alive today. Or is he?
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He actually has a youtube channel and just uploaded something one day ago 😂 see the description for his yt channel link
0 likesIf I was a cop who got not only outsmarted by a dope junkie, but also humiliated and ended up on the internet as well. I'd think I'd quit.
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Not that hard, cops probably have a high school average of a solid C- so outsmarting them isn't too hard to do
14 likes😏🤣💕
0 likesMore people should treat detectives like Jeff.
173 likesBe they in the right or the wrong. You aren't there to help make their jobs easier, you are there to fight for your own innocence.
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That is if you’re innocent. I mean most innocent people act like this anyway.
5 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun no they don't lol, most people don't know enough to say no to police
1 likeYou can’t prove your innocence in questioning. They ONLY use things AGAINST you. It’s in Miranda. Watch a lawyer vid with “Don’t talk to the police”
0 likes@Alex Das Liebe I am well aware that being completely silent after requesting a lawyer is the best strategy however I can't fault people for responding when the police force and detectives are trained to ask questions to piss you off and get that immediate emotional response. Also entertaining their opening questions could get them to treat you ever so slightly better, like getting concessions, before you use your 5th amendment right to tell them you won't being saying anymore until your lawyer is present.
0 likesThe SERE survival tactics used in the military kinda apply here. Survive: don't do anything that will make them kill you or in this case imprison you. Evasion: You can respond to questions all you want if you are evading giving any details that could make your situation worse. Resistance: this would be the part where you just stop talking, ideally if in an interrogation room you would do this first. Escape: It isn't really feasible for a citizen to try to mount an escape from police custody but in this case I feel it would apply to doing everything in your power to legally get out of custody.
"Playin' good cop?"
70 likesI love how quickly he sees through all the cop cliché bullshit.
I don't think using drugs should put you in prison, I think we need another institution that is dedicated to helping convicted drug abusers and not profiting off of them.
58 likesWhy did Jeff never get a lawyer?
55 likesHe kept his composure better than I would sober
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Because I actually activated or furthered the conversation in order to get a coke in one and a coke and a butterfinger for the last attempt….I just wanted some caffeinated carbonated drinks and a butterfinger for obvious reasons which I never got….. at the end of the whole thing I was hitting the button telling them I was ready to talk and the detectives would say,” oh yeah and let me guess you want a soda first right.” And I’d just laugh…
12 likesGlad to hear it Jeff, kudos.
1 like@Rob Smissen idk if that's a real account, cause the man in this video has a youtube channel called "The Legend of Jeff". Who knows though it's not impossible to have 2 youtube channels
1 like@Juh I'm not naive, but I like to take people at face value. At least until they want something. Love and peace.
0 likesThey were looking for a confession. They had zero evidence. He just had to wait it out till released without talking
0 likesThese videos are so informative and entertaining. Thank you!
1 like10:44 Jeff got him and u clearly can see the officer putting his arms up and stuttering, followed by a coverup statement.
8 likesHe caught him offguard.
A lot of times these detectives don’t care & they are ready to just convince you they have something. You’ll say anything under stress. I hope Jeff found freedom
1 likei love how the cop audibly sighs when jeff asked for a lawyer 😂
2 likesEverything you said about Jeff is completely true! The very first thought I had before you said antihero was "I like this guy". lol. and the Bad Santa analogy - AWESOME!!!!!
1 likeSigh, I searched comments for like 10 minutes hoping someone knew Jeff and what he was up to. I wish the man happiness. He is a legend.
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here's his channel https://www.youtube.com/c/SYRENGEMUSIC/about
0 likes"Playing good cop?"
3 likes"Nah I'm usually a prick"
"Yea you look like one goes back to silent "
Fucking legend
I once had "a talk" with my 2 managers so I said "This is like good cop, bad cop". My nice manager asked if he was the good or bad one, so I said "You're the nice one and we already know he is a difficult one" Hahaha
1 likeAfter 30 mins talk I told them I still had work to do so they got a bit pissed I wanted to finish "the talk". So then I switched to trying to extend the talk so I could go home immediately after "the talk". I started conversation about all kinds of stuff and we talked for another 45 mins. My "bad cop" manager was so impressed he thought we were buddies again but at the end I confirmed I still didn't like his ways hahaha. And then I went home. Good times!
That Addiction he's got gets stronger every year he's on it! He's got a long battle ahead of him physically and mentally but I hope he comes out on top!
1 like"the only reason why i come up here, is to get a f*cking coke" lol i laughed so hard
5 likesits honestly nice to watch videos like this after watching some genuine scary sick fucks.
0 likesThe millions of people here to see Jeff! Hope he is doing well and in good health
1 likeThis is a great video, i love everything about it
0 likesAbsolutely fantastic. Needed this tonight
1 likeI’m gonna tell y’all something that could help you later in life. Cops will lie in a heartbeat that they have all kinds of evidence when they don’t.
0 likesI watch this video like I watch the goonies. Come back to it every once in a while when I think of Jeff just for shits and gigs.
1 likeWhat I learned from Jeff, 'If they said they have evidence, they don't. And if they told you to tell them something, that something is probably for them to use to their advantage'.
0 likesJeff's so good at this I almost don't even think he did the robbery
0 likesAm I wrong that once someone says “I want a lawyer, I’m not saying anything”, the questioning would be stopped until the lawyer appears at that point? Why did they keep pushing him like that?
1 likeIt's amazing how someone can be an adult yet still act like a 3 year old that just got his skittles taken away
0 likes“Wham, bam, thank you for the Coke, put me back in a cell”
0 likesWhat a legend
Surely its illegal to interrogate someone either 'under the influence' or 'in withdrawal'...you arent in your right mind...
10 likesI think its disgusting the way hes put through that torture.....he handled it very well. Hes also lucky he was mainly using Heroin rather tham Methadone as Methadone is much harder to kick, and has terrible withdrawal...well done Big P'Harma...
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Science!
0 likesI've repeatedly heard that methadone is even harder to kick than heroin, but never really looked into it. I wonder how come, I always assumed drugs with longer half lives tend to be less addictive, but maybe I was wrong.
0 likesPolice: "You have the right to remain silent."
4 likesAlso police: "Why aren't you talking?"
these guys didn't have any evidence and weren't interested in helping the victims of the robbery - they just wanted to further their careers by getting an easy conviction without doing any legwork or real investigation.
1 likeIt should be a crime to be this lazy and disinterested in actual justice
This video has been censored and I don’t appreciate it:
1 likeI feel obligated to paraphrase what I recall of the part which was cut,
Coming directly after the “long time buddy” response @
“While many of us cannot relate to the debilitating effect of heroin addiction and withdrawal,
The resignation and regret in his voice is something many of us can relate to.”
It’s really a shame this was cut. I mean...
...robber or not, it’s not like this glorified or condoned drug use or anything -
So why cut it then? Hmm?
God forbid we should have sympathy for
homeless people afflicted with
incredibly demanding and genuinely serious
medical conditions or anything.
<3
Even after all those heroine he remains to be the smartest guy in the room. He could've been someone special without heroine.
0 likesI legit laughed out loud when I heard "works for coca-cola". He absolutely does NOT work for them...lol gimme a break.
0 likes"I want a lawyer"
0 likesEND OF CONVERSATION. PERIOD.
Update: Jeff has signed a 3 million dollar endorsement deal with Coca Cola. His tagline is: "Coke -- better than heroin!"
2 likesHe can beat it just by asking him questions after he asked for a lawyer
0 likes.. I love how the narrator dictates to us what Jeff knows. And I'm supposed to just believe whatever the narrator says? No, that would be stupid. If you're going to narrate, stick to facts, don't just add random details we have no proof of.
1 likelol... if you're a fan of interrogation videos, you have to have seen this at least x3 times 👍🤙👐
2 likesTearin them cokes up!
0 likes- "How bout that butterfinger you promised."
Hahaha legendary 🤣
Interrogator: You have the right to remain silent.
0 likesJeff: yes
This is what addiction does to people, this guy is a genius brought low by his vices. A tragedy.
0 likes"...while many of us can't relate to the feeling of being addicted to heroin for well over a decade..." challenge accepted
0 likesJeff looks like a man in pain, broken by life. Thats all…
0 likesWhy do I find "Thanks for the coke" so damn funny? 😂
0 likesDude is a legend,
0 likesCop: Help me out
Jeff: Fuck off and get me a coke
Cop: Okay
That is how you do that folks. Talking to cops is never a good idea cause like any job sometime they are lazy and just wanna pin it on someone who is a easy target.
I know that the whole point of this video is to showcase a cult figure in the world of criminology but I just can't with this guy , he's just funny in his dealings because he's being himself .
0 likesJeff: Tells his side of the story
0 likesCop: what's your story?
I found this whole thing so funny and at some point I just said “he rlly said girlboss he knows how to stun thst investigator bro”
0 likesWhen he said "I'm not talking to you, I want a lawyer" Doesn't the cop have to by law stop interrogating and go get the guy legal representation?
0 likesThe 'Glimmer of Humanity' gives me "I would maim a person but a dog? What do you take me for, a monster?" sort of vibes
0 likesI think the glimer of humanity was already there before he thanked the coke. We can feel the fear and frustration on his voice when he talks about he's previous experience with police
0 likes"you have the right to remain silent...."
0 likesJeff : remains silent
Officer :👁👄👁
Dont they have to read you your rights when they arrest you? As in while they're handcuffing you/putting you into the back of their car? And not later when you're already detained at the police station?
0 likes12:50
0 likesWait are you telling me you couldn't Google search to see if he ended up in Georgia state prison? I'm pretty sure that kind of stuff is public record? No?
He took the 'right to remain silent' quote too seriously
0 likesI was in an interview sort of like this when I was a kid. Our middle school sports coach had been arrested for child molestation and they were bringing kids in to interview And i reacted the exact same way when they say they have evidence that links you in.
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Did they ever found out if the guy was guilty or not?
0 likes@1funeral2many yep. 10 year sentence.
0 likesJeff: talks all about what happened to the interrogator before the miranda warning (when iirc that conversation is inadmissible)
0 likesInterrogator: okay let me read you your rights. Okay, now what happened last night?
Jeff: I already told you what happened, and i'm not going to say it again
Interrogator: surprised pikachu
"now you handcuffed me"
2 likeshe says to a dude who is literally in hand cuffs
Virgin School Shooter: try’s to act insane so they get away with their crime
1 likeJeff: “I don’t use methadone I use heroin”
Jeff u made me loose my patience when u refused to talk and came in back and forth.... 🤣😂
1 likeGuys, I want to ask something.
1 likeI had noticed there are parts of this video missing from last time I watched it and checked at least one other video to make sure I am not tripping.
At this point I am 100% sure that there are at least three parts of this video that are missing. Does anyone know why that is or if I can find the original somewhere?
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What do you think was removed?
0 likes@Nathan The one I was looking for when opening the video was right after Jeff said "Long time, buddy", the narrator made a comment on how the acceptance and sorrow in his voice conrributed to him as a antihero to sympathyze to.
0 likesAdditionally, there was a part where the narrator was analyzing his body language while lying vs while telling the truth and how when the talking about "the gun that he was sitting on", he puffed up and made strong eye contact indicating he geniunely didn't know what they were talking about.
There were also I think some prolonged moments regarding some sweet snack that he was eating or that he wanted, beyond the coke.
I wonder if a lawyer could argue that absolute silence indicates an understanding of the rights he's been read because one of them is the right to silence and not incriminate yourself.
0 likesi wake up feeling like Jeff sometimes.
0 likesHe might be a junkie but he's not stupid. He adheres to rule #1 when dealing with cops perfectly - don't answer any questions. You don't need to prove your innocence, THEY need to prove that your're guilty!
0 likesThe cop talks down to him, he clearly thinks he’s smarter than jeff. He’s clearly not.
1 likeThis man could’ve thought of idk… venom for an example of antihero. Literally anyone other than bad Santa.
0 likesHow many times does he have to ask for a lawyer? Oh that’s right, he just said I need a lawyer. He needed to have asked “can I please talk to a lawyer?”
0 likesDetective: You have rights to remain silent
0 likesJeff: 🤐 thanks for the the coke 🤐
officer: “You have the right to remain silent”
0 likesjeff: remains silent...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve never tried heroin, but I took opiates for a short time for pain relief after a medical procedure. I have never felt so content in my entire life.
2 likesMy next surgery, I decided to take a lesser medication and deal with the pain because I know that I don’t have the will power to resist that feeling.
I will never try heroin once because I’m afraid of how much I would like it. I’ve tried MDMA, and I felt a similar feeling. A feeling that “if I could feel like this every day, I would achieve all of my goals, I would be happy, I would improve the lives of others around me” etc.
But I know that the positives of drugs are temporary. I know how dangerous it is to feel that good.
Maybe when I’m 80, on my death bed, I’ll take all the coke, ecstasy and heroin that I want. For now, I’ll smoke my weed after work and have a few drinks on the weekends.
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Try Kratom. It's a powdered leaf from a tree in SE Asia
0 likes@Jill Seigworth ayo???
0 likesYa I'm going with the prison ending. I work with people with addictions and with 10 years of that hard shit they don't get clean
0 likesFirst time he asked for a lawyer the session should have ended period.
1 like"Wham bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell" 😂
0 likesThis video is living proof that cops and more of the "bad guy" than the "junkie".
0 likes11:36 "fuck no," lmao caught me off guard
0 likesThe 1st time Jeff said take me to my cell, there's a 2 1/2 hr edit then 5 hrs. They don't have any evidence. That's why they desperately keep talkn to him. If they had hard evidence, they would've put Jeff in his cell the 1st time...
0 likesI cant belive how long they make them wait.
0 likesCop: Here's your coke
0 likesJeff: How in the fuck do you expect me to snort a soda?.....I meant COKE!
Jeff is a legend 💡
0 likesNotice how cops are...
1 like"Prove you didn't steal that pink unicorn" (prove a negative).
No... you have to prove I did. That's how accusations work.
It's always stupid to say anything to the police during an interrogation especially without your lawyer present. Whether they have a bunch of evidence or not confessing won't get you off easier like they try to make you think. In most cases they don't want to go to trial and you lose all leverage for a plea bargain if you give them a confession. Why do they need to offer you a plea down and give you a lesser sentence if you have zero leverage because you already confessed. Imo confessing will always get you more time not less. Always remain silent!
0 likesI’d like to believe that Jeff is now working for Coca Cola but I doubt it 😂
0 likesThird dumb cop : we have a lot of evidence .
1 likeJeff : name them .
Dumb cop ; why are you doing this we re trying to help you .Lmao
Why tell someone they have the right to remain silent, then keep banging on at them because they choose to exercise that right?
0 likesAt and before 7:30 you really do feel for the guy. The cops not his friend and he's entirely right, they wouldn't be sitting here if the cops had everything they needed and he can't do anything but hurt himself. It's their job to find out what happened, it's his job to ensure he keeps his mouth shut and let the professionals (his lawyer) tell him what information the cops really need from specifically him because he is not beholden to this investigation if he is innocent. Obviously it's a matter of opinion on whether you believe he's innocent or not but until there is physical evidence not based in any sort of opinion that we should be on his side.
0 likesEveryone has a level of evidence they'll take though. If you know someone really well, like your husband of 15 years or something, you might just be able to look into their eyes and ask "did you do it" and know, to yourself, whether or not he's telling the truth with as much certainty as fact as far as you're concerned. On the other end, we see drug addict and just say 'yeah he probably did do that thing I mean it's less bad than heroin and he does that after all.'
It's sad the legal system can devolve into such petty trifles when all we truly want- and it's purpose in the first place- is for the guilty proven guilty. Then you'd hope for the innocent to be free of their worries as expediently as possible, with as close to 0% innocent conviction rate as possible. That is, if not just 0%.
Once those miranda rights are read,there's only ONE word to be spoken..lawyer!!!
0 likesWhether guilty or innocent..LAWYER!
The interrogator is inexperienced af, you have to be smarter than the person you're interrogating. :P
0 likesI'm pretty sure this took place in my hometown. I'm surprised i'd never heard about it until now.
0 likesjeff: you did say I have the right to remain silent
1 likemake more please!!!
0 likeslol he decided to remain silent to the end xD
0 likesFantastic analysis!
0 likesForcing an opioid addict suffer withdraw to question several times over the course of several hours is legal how?
0 likesI know a Jeff I hope he’ll be okay
1 likeIm gonna go ahead and "like" Jeff right now!
0 likes1:42 "This, Is Jeff."
0 likesMe: I noticed.
Why should I tell you what evidence I have?
0 likesOh I don't know, you're only trying to put me away for 20 years
Anybody know if Jeff was found guilty?
0 likesHow about that butterfinger you promised me 😂😂😂
1 likeI'm on Willie's Side, you really gonna walk up to someone and bother them with.. Shudders ..children, while they're trying to enjoy some lunch.
0 likes“How ab that butterfinger you promised me?”
0 likesI'm having trouble believing this Video...here at ...13:20.... it's showing a guy trying to break open a safe...using an arc welder....that can't be real, where would he get the power to run the welder?....and he's not wearing eye protection.... What a Freakin' Jeff...!
0 likesJeff and Willie even look like each other.
0 likesThe comment section's liking for the character shows what Antihero concept he takes about
1 likethose cops met their match. lol.. cops making fools of themselves.
0 likesHope Jeff is clean and doing good now
0 likes"You look like a prick" - Jeff Legend
0 likes"This is in the state of Georgia"
0 likes2 mins later "You want a coke?"
I had to kick a 5 gram a day habit locked up. I was full blown dope sick by the time I got to the station.. f man
1 like"most of us cant relate to being addicted to heroin" yeeaah...
0 likesthat cop lied to his face about having evidence... scary shite
0 likesWhere's the butter finger you promised? 😂😂😂😂
0 likesYour violating the law junkie knows his rights he lawyered up period. Conversation over.
0 likesNever speak to police, give them nothing
0 likesSo by this definition... Thanos is an antihero?
0 likesI lost it at Thurman Merman
1 likeI want to believe Jeff has seen this video
0 likesThis video was proudly sponsored by Coca-Cola.
1 likeJeff should be working for Coca Cola
0 likesAlmost got him with the Butterfinger
0 likesgreat video
0 likesHad to pause to laugh. Thurman Merman. Never gets old.
0 likes12 year heroin addict?!?!!? HOW IS HE STILL ALIVE
0 likesWhere's the lawyer Jeff asked for?
0 likesRoot for Jeff all the way!
0 likesThe real crime is that they don't have a recycling bin for all those coke cans.
0 likes"Thurman Merman....? ......Oh jesus...." xD hahahaha
0 likesBad Santa is an interesting movie. It was promoted as "comedy", but is definitely not that.
0 likesDamn i thought i was skinny. He's 6'5 153...im 6'6 190....Say no to drugs kids.
0 likesHis name is literally Jeff.
0 likesHe said too much. EVERY WORD you say in this situation is too many words... say nothing and take it like a man.
0 likesThe real Jeffery Lebowski?!
0 likesThis is all you need to do to go home.
0 likes"No."
0 likes"Huh?"
"Yeah."
Wam bam thank you for the coke now put me back in the cell 😂🤣
1 likeAt least he would be a better parent than Casey Anthony 🤷
0 likesJeff my boy , you wanted a coke so bad you was like , bro u ain't got no cokes up in here, hears police outside I'ma go see if theses police got one, steps outside (office ) - Freeze sir, what are you doing , Jeff just sitting at my buddy's place heard y'all outside came to see if you perhaps had a coke, Officer- you're coming with us we asking an officer for coke u must been at a bad point to commit robbery then ask for coke,
0 likes. JeffI ain't do no robbery and yes I came here with y'all because I was told their would be some coke , or is that just a fairy tale gets his coke a cola 🥤 ahhh" fk the defective B's I don't talk take me back to my cell, comes back 5 hrs later I was told there would be more coke 😂 officer yes now you going to tell me something, reads mara da rights, understand Jeff no yes, Im not going to talk only came for the coke 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤪 Jeff you're a legend,0fficer-
The bad Santa clip 😆
0 likesThe cop is trying to get something out of Jeff and use that against him. What a fucked up system.
0 likesfolks murder their spouse, children, and eight other people that were in the way
0 likesjustice: that’s gonna be 15 years with possibility of parole after 7 or release for good behaviour after 5 months
dude does armed robbery
justice: oh wow oh sweet lord beegeezus that’s gonna be life for you!
Channing Tatum: "My name is Jeff"
0 likeswhy does he feel like 'freddy quell' from 'the master'
0 likesi love jeff
1 like"The Legend Of Jeff Breath Of The Heroin"
0 likesJeff isn’t the antihero. He’s the hero.
0 likes«You have the right to remain silent» remains silent :0
0 likesIs read the Miranda rights.
0 likesIs asked if they understand these rights.
Remains silent.
Damn.
jeff is a badass i like him
0 likesIs that Jeff Bliss or someone else?
0 likesWhy does the anti hero have only one arm
0 likesthe detective sounds like awsamdude
0 likesrumors are he is still being interrogated til this day
0 likesKeep not talking while you live in jail 😂😂😂😂. There are “ glimmers” of humanity in alllll kinds. Nice try
0 likes153 pounds at 6 foot 5 that's unhealthy
0 likesLegend
0 likesDo you understand your rights Jeff?
0 likesMy name is jeff
Once he says “I want a lawyer” the cop should have stopped talking to him and gone to get him a lawyer.
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Thats where they get you, they don't have to stop the interrogation whenever you ask for a lawyer, its up to you to stop talking until your lawyer gets there.
83 likesIt's a tactic interrogators use, they try to get you to open up and say something dumb before your lawyer gets there and tells you to clam ip
@Kyle Garris Not true, they are suppose to stop asking you questions after you demand for a lawyer to be present. That is why they kept reading his Miranda rights over and over, because even though he asked for a lawyer legally if they read his rights again and they get him to agree to talk after that to them than it is legal. He never once agreed to though he just continued to say no and ask for a lawyer. If he had slipped up and for example answered the question about when he got to Aron's house and that was used to get a convection on him he could have it thrown out for being a violation of his Miranda rights. Clearly this guy was fucking with them to just get a coke and a butterfinger and never intended to answer any questions and that is why they had to release him.
48 likesSally that gurl__Julia common misconception. They don’t have to stop questioning you while they wait for counsel to arrive, that’s something they do on television and I’m not sure why.
15 likes@Sally that gurl__Julia Absolutely true, they definitely don't have to refrain from interrogating you whilst waiting for counsel to arrive. To claim otherwise is an absolute fallacy. I'd suggest watching a little less Law and Order, because what you're claiming only occurs in television and movies.
13 likesYes
0 likesKyle Garris I know. I for one have never been comfortable with that tactic. Especially since even though he never (that we see) verbally states that he understands his rights and makes it clear that he is requesting counsel the police interrogators never give him a chance to actually get a lawyer and continue questioning him. It’s a legal grey area that I don’t trust.
3 likesEven the popo said it.......... "now i can't talk to you, cause you want a laywer."
3 likes@Evelyn U what stays in prison life, is become as the servitude calls it, a selfremark.
0 likes@The Gent no shit the whole idea is to get u to slip up and say something
1 likeThey did. Cop tried to keep him talking but then acknowledged "you've handcuffed me by saying that." Then they dissappear for two hours. Presumably Jeff talked to a lawyer and later came back to score another coke.
3 likes@Sally that gurl__Julia thats NOT true lol, they DONT have to stop questioning u for SHIT, anybody can ask you anything whenever. But YOU have the RIGHT to stay quiet and stop talking. Thats how it works.
5 likes@Sally that gurl__Julia You can't really tell what happened. Once you ask for a lawyer, questioning must stop. But if Jeff starts talking again (not in response to question but intitiates it), they can mirandize him again and start again. It doesn't look like they ever read him his rights----this is a murky situation, where there'd be a suppression hearing and a judge would make the call. I would rather be the defense lawyer than the ADA in that case.
0 likes@The Gent If you are being question about crime "A" and request to speak to an attorney, they must stop asking questions until you speak to an attorney. But while you are waiting, you initiate the conversation, they can read you your rights again, and your testimony may be admissible. If you make it clear, "I want an attorney and I don't want to talk until I get one" sure they can ask you questions---and then there is a hearing and the judge will make the call. If you say, "I think I should see an attorney" you haven't invoked your right. Cases are never straight forward---like the guy will say, "Fuck off I ain't saying shit"---lawyers will argue wither side
0 likes@RPD thats not tru bruh, thats how it works in TV shows but in real life theyll keep preasuring you the way they did with jeff, and thats not illegal. U have the right to remain silent. They have the right to investigate, fish, and question until u slip up. THE GENERAL RULE IS "YOU HAVE THE 'RIGHT' TO 'REMAIN' SILENT" its pretty much self explanatory. Anybodys whos been in the system (was in it 10 years) knows this.
0 likestwo 9s I don’t care how many years you were in the system, you have no clue. You are saying that you can invoke your right to an attorney and they can still question you and it’s not illegal. Yes, that’s true. It’s not a crime to continue questioning you. But it’s not admissible. Jeff would go to his PD who would notice a hearing, show the video to the judge, the cops would testify, and the judge would make the call. They don’t show this on tv because it’s too boring, but that’s how it’s done bruh.
0 likes@John Smith Glad you were able to clarify that for me. Who would've ever imagined that were the underlying motive.
0 likesI know he's not a good guy and all but that "You look like a prick" jab was pretty hilarious.
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How do you know he's not a good guy?
117 likes@Kiran "good guy" being a descriptor, not an opinion. I don't know if he's a morally good person or not but in the eyes of the law he's a "criminal" or in my own personal slang "bad guy". I didn't use that term specifically cause I knew that would sound vitriolic when I'm not meaning it to be so I lightened it a bit by saying he wasn't a "good guy" or someone that abides by the law.
90 likesGood question @Kiran.
26 likes@The Pirate Nation I love your reply. Where’d you learn that constructive attitude?
@- S L D - growing up broke and the US military. At least that's my best guess.
23 likesBro I was fucking dying 🤣🤣🤣
10 likesLaughed my ass off
8 likesI would have loved to have seen his face with that comeback. The cop thought he was being clever and Jeff just slammed that ball back in his court without even trying.
10 likesI laughed out loud when he said that lol the delivery was perfect
3 likesbeing a heroin addict doesn't make you a bad person it makes you a victim
11 likes@Abi Lea unless u live near them, have to deal with them everyday. Victims they are not.
6 likes@Rachel Roberts I work with them? And I grew up around a lot of addicts and study addiciton as part of my course it is much more complicated than you think and is much more a result of corruption and capitalism than it is the individual.
8 likes@Rachel Roberts Your comment doesn't even make sense is your argument that all addicts are just immoral or something? If that's the case and you only want to blame the individual and not psychosocial factors then you should also condemn anybody who smokes, has a sugar addiction or drinks a cup of coffee everyday to function as well. The "real world" as you call it is not having the moral standards of a 5 year old who sees everything in black and white and actually taking the time to understand that there's more going on and every issues has numerous factors which influence it.
13 likes@Rachel Roberts "many addicts manipulate idiots like u"
10 likes"unless u live near them, have to deal with them everyday"
"ask why they are their, to get money drugs and see who has the drink."
You're implying addicts are immoral I'm not putting words into your mouth these are your own words. Don't use strawman arguments if you're just going to backtrack on what you said.
@Abi Lea thank you for taking the time to give an eloquent response to the other commenter and for the work you're doing
6 likes@Sebastian Morris Thanks I just get fired up with all the misconceptions surrounding substance abuse, no need to thank me though it's my job and I love it.
6 likes@Abi Lea Im legit curious, not trying to be a smart ass or anything but how would you say capitalism contributes to drug adiction?
1 like@Abi Lea also Im a little on the fence on putting the emphasis on the social factors. Because on one hand you are absolutely right poverty, crime, disfunctional families they all fester adiction. There are psychosocial facrors that are like a breeding groumd for substance abuse.
0 likesBut on the other hand, at the therapeutic level the individual is all there is. It wasnt society or my family or my upbringing that made abuse drugs and alcohol, Im the one who chose that. And I couldnt do a single thing about society, my upringing or my family. If thats the root of my adiction then I guess Im all out of luck because I have absolutely no agency over those things. But I do have agency over one thing and one thing only: my choices. And it was finding that agency that I began my journey to recovery. Realizing that Im in control, that is my choicea that got me there and only my choices that will get me out. help and support will make wonders but at the end of the day if an addict doesnt wanna quit, they wont.
@Billy Elden Ring The pharma industry (particularly in the US) is responsible for over prescribing opiods which people get addicted to then when their prescription runs out they need street drugs. Also capitalism is the reason why there is a moral bias when it comes to drug addiction;being addicted to caffiene, alcohol, sugar and nicotine is fine but THC, meth, heroin etc. are not. The only reason alcohol and nicotine are legal whilst LSD and THC isn't is because governments make a profit from alcohol and nicotine and used propaganda to paint drugs like THC are drugs that minorities did.
3 likes@Billy Elden Ring My point is not everybody is given those choices, the vast majority of the people I work with had no choice and were introduced to drugs as children. When it comes to therapy and helping an individual recover, acknowleging the problem and wanting to change is the only thing we can hope for. You can't change the past but you can change the future, it's important to not try to think that addicts aren't able to change even if they grew up in poverty etc. Because a lot of the time they can but unfortunately it comes later in life when they are much more stable and self sufficient to leave those environments, however at the same the the physical addcition is normally much more severe by that time.
3 likes@Abi Lea okay then I totally see where you are coming from and I agree big pharma is defenetly responsible for a good chunk of adiction, not only with opiods but anxeity medication too, benzos can be just as bad or worse than hardcore drugs.
0 likesIm not sure if the bais in favor of nicotine and caffeine is entirely capitalist, since they allow you to function just as good or even better than you normally would but we cant deny theres a huge profit there.
Thanks for the explanation, it does make a lot of sense.
@Billy Elden Ring Totally agree, however nicotine and caffiene doesn't make you function better it's objectively deteriorating to your health and affects your ability to function without that stimulus, meth and cocaine do essentially the same things which is why they are called 'study drugs' they help you focus, that's what I mean by bias.
3 likes@Leo Walzim 2 so you're blaming soldiers...for the government's actions...you ok? You need an ambulance?
0 likes@The Pirate Nation but you could have wrote that comment without the comment about being a good guy or not lol
1 like@Varberges Samo or you're just oversensitive about someone you've never met? Sounds like you're just oversensitive about someone you've never met.
2 likes😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes@The Pirate Nation Stop lying, you clearly said "I know he's not a good guy"
0 likesWho says he's a bad guy? Law breaker and criminal are legal assessments, not necessarily moral ones. He's accused of armed theft remember, not murder or rape.
0 likesHi, I used to use IV heroin, never screwed anyone over but got screwed over myself plenty. I got better myself. First try, zero relapses. Also don't drink or even smoke anymore.
0 likesYou're right that most people don't do good things when faced with danger. They look out for number one.
But not all people are like that. I wasn't, even at my most destructive, and I'm proud of that.
The way people like you look down on addicts automatically is bad, for the same reasons as things like racism or religious extremism... us vs them.
People are individuals. Treat them as such, rather than a monolith.
You can be smart while not villifying others. I've been screwed over by other addicts and dealers constantly, was robbed at gunpoint when I lived in Olympia, and so on. I never. Hurt. Anybody. & here someone is, trying to show compassion for people with mental illness, and you belittle them due to your own resentment.
This person is trying to remedy the situation (& I myself am proof of the strength of these people's conviction). What are you doing, exactly?
Thank goodness for the people you mock so carelessly.
@jht3fougifh dude. Dude....read the rest of the conversation before you write me a novella of useless information. I've stated it multiple times that it is not in the context of moral standing, just standing with the law. You must be one of those people who love hearing themselves talk.
1 like@Abi Lea i mean you are still somewhat of a bad person for the crimes you comitted but it's true that instead of going to prison he needs rehabilitation
0 likes@Platonic Riot Crimes are not the same as morals, commiting a crime makes you a criminal but it does not inherently make you a bad person. Heroin addiction is not morally worse than a caffeine addiction, it's perspective and prejudice.
1 likePersonally all i see here is someone who if they werent a junkie might have been a very productive person. He needs some love and rehab.
2 likes@Ide no I'm not
0 likes@- S L D - your nan tought him
1 like@Indy Freeman lol
0 likes@Tech Spray And that wasn't his only great line but a long shot.
0 likesThe reason everyone loves him is A) He's funny B) The junkie is smarter than pretty much everyone else we see on these things. Wasn't the cop pushing him kind of illegal since he'd already said "I'm not talking to you. I need a lawyer"?
0 likes@Dave The Brahman I addressed this in another comment in this thread
1 like@Dave The Brahman That's objectively false, healthcare isn't unique to capitalism only privatised healthcare is which is responsible for turning away people in need like Jeff who can't afford it.
2 likes@Dave The Brahman Capitalism is also the reason pharma companies knowingly pushed opioid prescriptions to people who didn't need them and upped the oxycontin content in american brands, for profit.
2 likes@Dave The Brahman Except public healthcare is a socialist policy which those countries have adopted and the treatment quality does not differ as much as you think in poorer countries. Also the countries you listed are not great examples as they have the same system the wealthy countries you mentioned have.
2 likes@Dave The Brahman Do you wanna name some ACTUAL socialist countries? Last time I checked China and Russia are capitalist and so are most of the militaristic African countries where children are soldiers. You should learn more about healthcare before you speak on it because you sound very ignorant. I work in the healthcare system and know many people from many countries and the only one that stands out is the USA where doctors get bribed with dinners and gifts by medicine companies to promote pills to patients and charge obscene hospital bills over things which are free in other countries. Socialism and capitalism are not perfect but it's clear you don't understand the concept of socialism or socialist policies enough to form a coherent argument since you named good examples which were socialist policies, nice try though.
2 likes@Dave The Brahman You're conflating the definition of socialism with the USSR, there's a reason people say it wasn't real communism or socialism. Public healthcare is a socialist policy. And you'll find that successful and fair healthcare is delivered under those socialist policies unlike privatised healthcare which is capitalist. Even then, many of these systems are impacted heavily by funding which isn't a capitalist or socialist problem but a leadership one. And again I can guarentee you that most of the countries you think are socialist are not once you learn the definition of socialism. Also you'll find a correlation between failed "socialist" countries and countries which the USA has heavily interfered with by installing dictators....what a coincidence.
2 likes@Abi Lea thank you so much. Your comments allow me to not blow up on these people. Really frustrating that it's 2021 and we are still explaining to people that addicts aren't created in a vacuum of evil or something 😕
1 like@Dave The Brahman bro just use the internet. Look it up. Please. It's not even complicated. We have a for-profit Healthcare system that incentivizes extremely addictive prescription drugs. Don't be dense. Capitalism isn't just the cherrypicked good things that you like rallying behind
1 like@QWERTburneracct It's really sad I'm hoping that eventually addicts will stop being demonised in the media
0 likes@Dave The Brahman Yes but you're understanding and generalising of what socialism and communism is, seems to be from red scare USSR propaganda rather than the actual definition.
1 like@Dave The Brahman Evidence? For what? What I said was not disputable it's just the facts of how the US healthcare system works yet you seem to be in denial of that. And by "Australian style" you mean socialist healthcare policy. And that has everything to do with capitalist vs socialist healthcare systems since privatisation is the basis of much of the USA specific healthcare issues such as big pharma.
0 likes"to think that any public good payed for by taxation is socialist, while capitalism is about greed."
Fam I'm begging you to just use google for ten minutes because you're so close yet so far. Public systems like public transport, education and healthcare are socialist policies, this means taxes pay for them and they are services which the government provides to the public. Socialist policies are inherent to socialism but can occur outside of socialism in capitalist countries such as Australia, Canada, NZ etc.
Privatised systems like USA prisons, USA healthcare etc. are inherent to capitalism and can only take place in capitalist countries.
"Even a cursory reading of history would quickly cure this nonsense."
You seem to be under the impression that knowing some basic history somehow equates to economic and healthcare policies which is where I think you've been mislead by red scare. Instead, reading some capitalist and socialist theory would help you understand definitions of what these words mean since you seem to be guessing.
Either way, I hope you can go research and comment again with some more insight or just let this back and forth die since I really dislike having to constantly reiterate the same point over and over because the other person is misinformed. I hope I'm not coming off as condescending (but I probably am it's hard to type in a non passive aggressive way).
@Dave The Brahman
0 likes"Of course Russia and China are capitalist, but they also have exremely corrupt political systems that distort the market. "
I don't get what point you're trying to make, my point is that corruption exists in the USA healthcare industry idk why you're bringing up Russia and China I purposely didn't use them as examples of good healthcare because I know they're corrupt?
"If things are so wonderful in the ‘other countries’, why do people come from all over the world to be treated in the US, in Canada, in Australia, eventhe leaders of those regimes?"
Who tf goes the US to be treated? Nobody, unless they need a specific procedure done which their own country may not have professionals which specialise and they usually leave in debt which they can never pay off. Rather people go to Australia, Canada etc But idk why you're mentioning this since my point is Australia etc. do NOT have the same system as the USA and are not comparable as such.
" If you think doctors are bribed in the US, you should talk to people from India or Africa, or even Russia. "
Yeah I agree it's terrible? Again bringing up other countries (Africa is vague btw since that's an entire continent not a country but whatever I'll let it slide cause I know what you mean) that also are corrupt doesn't get rid of the fact that the USA is corrupt?
"It is always a shame when unreflective people like you think they are knowledgeable on politics and economics because they can parrot opinions from the Left media."
Do you wanna elaborate on unreflective because that's a pretty baseless acusation. Also "left media" is a big red flag I kind of assumed you probably watched a bunch of conservative propaganda like Joe Rogan or Fox but this adds to my theory. Truth is I don't watch the news from any regular source, I read medical journals when I study healthcare which you'll see from some of the links I sent you. I used to be conservative and fell for all that shit from shapiro and Crowder until I realised they never backed up anything and when I read into their sources they were wrong. Especially Crowder his agenda for bashing Canadian healthcare whilst complaining the USA is ranked so low globally is pretty funny. I'm not trying to give you a "leftie" opinion, I originally commented about big pharma which isn't a left wing conspiracy is\t's the truth and I know many right wingers who agree it's an issue, you were the one who wanted to argue and change the definition of socialism so I had to keep correcting you but I'm not trying to convert you to being a socialist or anything, I'm just trying to maybe let you see that the US healthcare system is objectively not working and is responsible for hurting people like Jeff.
@Dave The Brahman You just generalised again, marxism is a specific form of socialism so why would marxism have anything to do with the definition of socialism?
0 likes"Soviet attempts to subvert the countries of the West"
Ah yes because the west are holier than thou and didn't do anything wrong. Not like the CIA have meddled heavily in the Americas to prevent socialism which is going against democracy not to mention even meddling in our own elections in the 70s when the CIA and British Royals staged a coup in Australia because for once our Prime Minister didn't want to suck up to the UK and USA.
"was immensely understated by people like Senator McCarthy"
You better start talking about healthcare again because this comment is so ridiculous and I'm not going to argue with somebody who respects someone like McCarthy who is responsible for mainstream red scare. Red scare is the actual term btw I didn't make it up, america doesn't hide this form of propaganda and you're very naive if you think we don't all have propaganda in every country, even australia has tons of propaganda it's just the west is more subtle. Which is arguably worst because at least in Russia and China, citizens avoid the media or take it with a grain of salt because they know its propaganda whereas in the west people somehow believe their country never has an agenda.
@Dave The Brahman
0 likes"The definition I am using of socialism is the standard definition, and the way the term has always been used, "
No it's not, you keep going back and forth between public vs private healthcare as if it's not the difference between socialist and capitalist healthcare.
"It is capitalism that has pulled much of the world out of poverty,"
This is your issue, did you see me once type that socialism has greatly improved the world or it's objectively better (other than healthcare)? No because that's a subjective opinion. However your statement can also be rebuttled with how much poverty has capitlism placed countries in? Wanna talk about Chile? Saudi Arabia? Egypt? MOST poverty stricken countries are extremely capitalist.
"China under socialism to now, or Venezuela under capitalism compared to now."
Maoism is very debated amongst leftists you get some crazies who loved Mao and believe China was better, I think both Chinas sucked for different reasons so I'm not gonna really answer that one, China and Russia have pretty much always had issues. Russia under the USSR was better than the Royals but IMO and most socialist opinions, neither the USSR (except under Lenin) nor Mao's CCP were truly socialist. Also Venezuela isn't considered socialist by any socialist I know and you'll find much of their crisis is thanks to the USA yet again.
https://time.com/5512005/venezuela-us-intervention-history-latin-america/
Maybe if Latin America had actual democracy instead of the USA meddling in everyone's affairs constantly we'd be able to fairly compare them. A better comparison might be Chile, USA installed Pinochet who murdered thousands including those who just disagreed with him politically would you say this capitlism saved thousands too?
"All the modern social reforms in the West are the product of extreme abundance, as may easily be shown."
This is baseless, have any sources?
"Joe Rogan of all people is conservative "
Aha, I knew you'd point that out, he's libertarian which is right wing aka "conservative" as Americans like to call it. He admits that himself. A left wing libertarian is an anarchist, which Joe Rogan very clearly isn't. Also Rogan beds himself with known white supremacists and has them on his show yet you never see him platform socialists or leftists which is because he only wants opinions he agrees with to be presented to his audience and to also cement the idea that these pundents are comparible to the scientists which he puts on the same platform.
This vid is great and is what pulled me out of all that non sense before I got in too deep, idc if it changes your mind but it can at least help you not fall for the crazy conservatives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g&t=1882s&ab_channel=InnuendoStudios
"the product of modern privilege which is itself the product of capitalism’s success"
By privilege you mean education?? I never understood why conservatives think it's a burn when they point out that majority of tertiary educated people are left leaning. Also my education was government subsidised in a public university aka a socialist policy which allowed me to stay out of debt.
@Dave The Brahman Yeah that's how every system works? In australia if the healthcare system fucks up you can get a coroner's report and get money to make up for it, that's not unique to the US. And the opiod epidemic's major damage is post 90s so guess that system sucks huh? Seems like nothing has changed at all so idk why you brought that up. Again, what's your agenda? You claimed at first to agree with me on everything except my complaint of capitalism being the cause and now you're defending the system you critiqued which I can only assume is because you don't like my political leanings and so you're automatically taking the opposing side?
1 like"Perhaps you can tell me which system you believe to remove human greed and self-interest from human affairs?"
The "Universal Healthcare" systems aka socialist healthcares like Australias, Canada, NZ etc. Duh, I've said this form the beginning.
@Dave The Brahman I think I begin to understand you a little. You are not an evil person, and probably in your 40s at least. You see inequities and failings in the system of your country, reported by the media, and think that it is a function of prosperity and privilege that we can even report on the injustice in the first place. It's just American Exceptionalism which has clearly fogged your perspective and now you're just way way too close to this whole thing. You field critiques of American capitalism as if it is a direct shot at you as an American/individual. You're just lost in the weeds on this one but unfortunately I imagine most people your age are in the same boat
0 likes@Dave The Brahman the irony
0 likes@Dave The Brahman "Acting in it's own interest" You mean forcing a leader and ideology that the people didn't want and rigging everyone's elections? That seems fair to you? The land of "freedom" taking away people's rights and installing murderous dictators because they were paranoid about the USSR? Who gives a shit if other countries turned socialist, you make i tout to be a threat, if capitalism was so great there should be no threat since Americans wont change their system anytime soon. You're beyond ignorant and this is the last comment I'm responding to that isn't healthcare related because I'm not going to be able to have a reasonable discussion with somebody who genuinely believes their country is flawless and justified.
0 likes@Dave The Brahman " I can make nothing of your first paragraph, other than your continued insistence upon your idiosyncratic usage of words."
0 likesYou can make nothing of my words? Because they're idiosyncratic? My paragraph was written simply and your use of idiosyncratic is ironically more idiosyncratic than any of my word choices, truth is you have no argument so you've switched topic and pin pointed your argument onto subjective political opinions instead of healthcare because you realised you were wrong.
@The Pirate Nation Honestly, the whole "good guy, bad guy" is a little too black-and-white for me.
0 likes@The Pirate Nation Just so you know, you got at least one who understands the context of which you were speaking in intent. Same thing happens to me at times. People get locked into their perception of what you meant.
1 likeAs I once read and say to people- "Words don't mean; PEOPLE mean." So to say, words are only a conduit in communication to have a sense of what a person is likely to mean. But it's still subject to possible clarification by the encoder.
Often enough, the decoder,'s ego don't allow them to accept that maybe they misunderstood. That or either they simply don't have the capacity to even understand that the possibility exist. #Peace
Funny! I would not have made the link but this guy actually does give me that "Bad Santa" vibe.
0 likesJeff calls them like he sees them.
1 likeThe cop: “Well now you got me in handcuffs and I can’t talk to you”
1602 likesjeff in handcuffs : 😐
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Lol
7 likesglad i wasnt the only one who noticed that
6 likes"you've got me in a bind", "im cornered", damn none of them would work lol
6 likesUnderrated comment
0 likesAmazing to think Jeff is somewhere out in the Ether oblivious to the fact that millions are watching his actions and being entertained by his antics. I really hope he’s living a life which is his definition of happiness. Thanks Jeff.
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Jeff's dead he od'd
3 likesTao Mane say it’s not so 😔
10 likes@Tao Mane where'd you hear that from?
1 likeYeah man he just wouldn't stop drinking coke poor Jeff
5 likesThats a dumb statement, no offence. I WAS a junkie also and Jesus pulled me out of that life. Jeffs happiness today could be doing more heroin and i wouldnt wish that on anyone. I hope and pray he is clean and sober living his life for the one and true living GOD! Grace be with you and peace from GOD the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ!
5 likes@Maryland_Patriot410 At the point of his arrest, he had been a heroin addict for 14 years
2 likesDo you think the chances of him recovering and living an a average life, or the chances of him continuing to shoot up until death are higher?
Adam Daniel I’m an atheist, but I’m glad that you were able to use religion to help you overcome your addiction
0 likesJeff isn't addicted to heroin, heroin is addicted to Jeff
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Samuel Cunningham makes stupid unoriginal comments.
9 likesAngelaine Jarrett nearly 200 disagree🤭
23 likesAngelaine Jarrett bruh, let it be
9 likesAngelaine Jarrett nah that shit was funny dawg
8 likes@Angelaine Jarrett you're free to try to do better
8 likes😍
2 likesThis
3 likesAngelaine Jarrett oops nearly 400😬
4 likesRead the room next time 🤣
@Angelaine Jarrett he got the whole squad laughing, you don't have the whole squad laughing
7 likes@Timelost in The Sauce that's okay. I don't want to be part of your lame Squad.
0 likesPreach baby
0 likesThat only applies in Soviet Russia
0 likesAngelaine Jarrett ur so mad for what
0 likes@Angelaine Jarrett Lol I think you lost this one.
3 likesHaha 😂
0 likes@Alison Henry I stand by what I said. I don't believe that makes me a dick. It's really not that big of a deal.
0 likesThis makes no sense but Jeff is a legend so I will like for now
0 likesSammy is not addicked to the internet the internet is addicked to sammy.
0 likes153lb is very underweight for 6'5", but then again he is a heroine addict
0 likesJeff is a legend, didn’t tell on himself or anyone else and was released later. Keep your mouth shut unless it’s to drink a coke
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
4 likesA comedian named Tom Segura talks about how every episode of ‘The First 48’ which involves a suspect asking for a lawyer ends with the charges being dropped...
5 likesAnd the biggest reason why is because police have used the ‘we’ll get you out of here quick after we clear this up’ to perfection... So, word of advice, if you are ever for ANY reason arrested/detained for questioning at the station, just assume you’re staying the night at least once.
Better than any other tool they have, they use the “Do you want to go home right now?” method against people who are fooled into thinking that their options are to choose between going home and doing a month when in reality, the choice is usually something like stay for a day or stay for a decade.
@Derp Y-Derp It's honestly kind of disgusting how many tactics they use while NOT getting them a lawyer too. Jeff asked a few times and they just keep sending in a new cop with a new tactic. They give up after a full day when most would have broke just at the promise of getting to go home and sleep.
4 likesEdit: they get many false confessions this way
@MRI The funniest thing about snitching is that while I'm sure that John Angel guy is just being a clown for the sake of being funny, it's not even like snitching gets you out of ALL trouble unless it's done right.
0 likesYou 'give them something' and don't have a lawyer around to secure a plea deal, there are probably even odds that you're also giving them yourself too. But that's really what those people have coming to them.
I hope he gets over his addiction, clearly his battle in life. Whatever he did, he is very decent. This glimmer of humanity is also shown in admitting of being addicted. His anger is not personally directed, still he is frustrated not only by the system but also by his own low self esteem. The phrase: I am a f*cking junkie... clearly shows he does not want to be addicted and blames himself for this weakness. Whatever he had tried to quit himself or that it ran out one day, he clearly knows his own body limits. But yeah 14 years is a long time. The refusal of methadon clearly states he been on the road of quitting before. Although this system is(and has to be regulated) it is not how an addictive mind works. I truly hope for his recovery, rinsed of this opiate, he can be much more, then how he feels on this vid.
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Yes
6 likesWell put
10 likes"Thanks for the Coke." was everything for me. Like JCS said, he had nothing to gain from it. He felt gratitude and wanted to express it. I hope Jeff gets the help he needs, too.
81 likesI feel like you described my life
2 likesClick on the link in the description that says "The legend continues". It is Jeff's channel.
8 likesAnyone would admit to being addicted when they have no possibility of getting a fix any time soon. Anyone who knows what withdrawal is like lives in permanent fear of it.
21 likesI was addicted to heroin/opioids for about 7 years. Of course you wouldn’t just go around telling people about it but once that withdrawal starts to set in, you start feeling an unbelievable sense of discomfort and dread coming over you, you’d be surprised how quickly anyone would admit to all kinds of things if it meant that they might have some chance to get some relief.
When I finally decided to get clean, I learned for the first time just how bad withdrawal was. It was a true eye opener. I had never gone more than a few hours without a fix before that. It got so bad that sleep was impossible. I had horribly restless legs which compelled me to go walk around my neighborhood for hours at a time just to try to tire myself out so that I could sleep through it but it never worked. Muscles cramping and aching all over my body, pounding headaches, cold sweats, etc. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
Since this guy has been an addict for 14 years and has resorted to committing armed robberies in order to fund his drug addiction, I think he knows exactly what to expect from withdrawal and it’s scaring the shit out of him. The overwhelming sense of doom and dread that comes before and during withdrawal is hard to describe.
indeed
0 likes"whatever he did, he is decent"
5 likes"Glimmer of humanity"
Did y'all not watch the damn video? He's convicted of armed robbery, jfc. He might be a wolf in sheep's clothing in this moment - laying low and being polite since he knows he has no power here. We don't know what he's like when he's in his element, thus him commiting armed robbery
@Rick Mcdonald Do a little research to see what medical marijuana does for people with Parkinson’s Disease. Educate yourself about the benefits of marijuana in terms of medical ailments.
28 likesWhile it’s not for everyone, it has been a life changer for a lot of people. Your negativity holds no value.
@Rick Mcdonald There are so many holes in the position you took I won't even waste my time. You must be incredibly ignorant to several things including economics with a statement like that...
12 likes@Rick Mcdonald addiction is a disease. Yes people have control over the first few times but at some point it gets to where you can’t function without it. Dealers, yes, deserve a hefty prison sentence, but users should not receive life. I believe they shouldn’t go to jail at all. They should go to REHAB in order to get clean and change their life around. Drugs are still present in jails and will just cause the addiction to get worse or change to other drugs. Honestly what the hell.
14 likesThe "long time buddy" says a lot about his disposition to his addiction as well, I hope he's doing better
2 likes@Rick Mcdonald I beg to differ, yes we need to treat them, if that needs incarceration, then so shall it be.
3 likesBringing dealers to the chair is not solving a damned thing. The biggest bosses still produce their poison and the dealers that are on the streets are low in rank and probably addicted too, to keep them at their place.
Yes, but so morphine and codeine and coffee, yes even chocolade. The first two are opiates and should be illegal too? What about alcohol? No my dear sir, there is a list of drugs that are illegal and that are not. It might differ from country to country. But as you might see in the US 1920/30, by making something illegal you create a (black) market.
He won't but he will rob chet lie and steal for his addiction
0 likesTHAT IS WHAT THEY DO.
@TQM I did watched the video, did you? Cause the narrator clearly states he was released after 12 hours.
2 likesYes I said decent, cause I have seen more people in this case that behave not that decent if they feel this way. No, that cola would not be thanked for but thrown at you. This addiction is terrible not only does it wreck your mind with hunger, it is also physical addicted.
Yes they are wolves in sheep cloths, this is what he going through for 14 years, he knows he is powerless but he still remains, as best described: decent.
I'll ask you one thing, do not eat for 5 days, (it's okay you can without food for 3 weeks) Your mind will be fixed on food on the sixth, this somewhat similar to his state. Talk to me again if you still can be a decent guy, cause most can't. It changes us to be wolves.
@Kyle Stewart I never been addicted myself but seen many patients that act way more aggressive then this guy.
0 likesYou fought a great battle within yourself and admire you for that. I truly hope you are doing alright now :)
@craig barreres Yes they do and know why? This is a market, prices go sky high, once a stash is caught or a dealer arrested. This can be solved as did in my country and it costs millions if not billions. Registrate the users, give them their fix, let them talk to psychologists, let them fight to get clean(trust me, this is a horrible process) Most of them will get clean, robberies will go down and dealers cannot compete with free fixes. They do not have to cheat, lie or steal for their fix.
2 likes@Rick Mcdonald I actually agree that anyone who commits an armed robbery, regardless of the reason, should be permanently removed from society. Even at the absolute worst point in my addiction, robbing someone at gunpoint was never even close to an option in my mind. I never robbed anyone or stole anything to fund my habit.
2 likesDrug abuse is a scourge on society and it was 100% my fault that I started using drugs. However, if I had been caught possessing drugs and sent to prison, I have no idea what may have happened to me.
I’m 5 years clean now, I got married in January and we’re trying to start a family. I made the idiotic choice to start doing drugs but I eventually made the decision to create a better life for myself and I didn’t threaten or harm anyone at any point.
@Rick Mcdonald you are the “tell me your socio-economic status with one comment” winner.
6 likes999 like
0 likes@Kyle Stewart I’m going on a whim here, but I don’t think your situation was even remotely comparable to even an average person suffering from substance use disorder. Your opinions would differ greatly if you understood what it can be. I’m not trying to offend, but your comments say a lot and can influence those who have no clue like your buddy Rick
3 likeshe is clean now u can look at his yt channel its in the dec labeled as "the legend continues"
1 likehe seems to be doing much better
@Rick Mcdonald
4 likesThe only problem with drugs
is that they are illegal.
They used to be sold in their
pure form in pharmacies and
nobody had any problem
except for the joke of a president
of the “free world”, who started
the war on drugs. ✌️
@Rick Mcdonald people make mistakes. Its called being human. You don't know what he's been through. He might have done drugs to forget about certain shit in his life. Like alcohol. Or he might have simply made a mistake.
3 likes@Rick Mcdonald You have a specific hate towards addicts. I don't know what you've been through, but take care seriously.
3 likes@Rick Mcdonald if I am wrong, then you never learned what you should have. I wish you well in the future and I truly hope you never understand why what you say is so wrong. If you do understand, it means you’ve been affected more personally and I hope that doesn’t happen to anyone.
3 likes@Rick Mcdonald So is alcohol, hope you don't drink.
3 likes@Rick Mcdonald sounds like you need to go smoke a doobie
4 likes@TQM Suspected of armed robbery, if he did then it was most likely to feed his addiction, did he harm anyone while robbing? No, Would he have killed anyone with the weapon? Most likely not. Considering he shows gratitude and has common sense, with help to overcome his addiction he could be cleaned up and become a normal functioning member of society
0 likes@craig barreres I’m sure your contributions to society are only dwarfed by your contributions to the English language. Respectfully
1 like@Rick Mcdonald and you are?The good cop?
0 likesOng
0 likes@Rick Mcdonald why do you think people use drugs?
0 likesYou are too kind
0 likesSame I was strung out for years and the sickness is something that tears you from within but this guy is a real one and I hope he gets clean FOR GOOD. Getting clean is half the battle, not relapsing is the other I've been clean now for almost 3 years and it's a battle especially that 1st year.
0 likes@Rick Mcdonald so is tylenol and the caffeine in coffee. Sugar is extremely addictive too.
1 likeMaybe actually help them and not lock them away like a serial killer
1 likeSame people with drug problems should be helped not in prison
1 likeall drugs should be legalised, addiction is not a crime, if it was 99% of the country would be behind bars
0 likes@Rick Mcdonald right and all I see is a bunch of Pitty comments for some reason I believe it wouldn't apply for everyone else. If you do the crime you do the time he should of known what drugs will do to you.
0 likes@Rick Mcdonald I mean you kinda still are, with comments like your initial one. But maybe your just kidding or trolling who knows
0 likesHe is really nice
0 likes@Victoria Edwards BS!
0 likesToo many words my brain can’t comprehend
0 likes@Insert Username Everyone has a story, many don't choose drugs or alcohol to forget. Many don't perpetuate abuse and hurt others in society. People who choose to abuse drugs and alcohol and commit crimes as a result are weak, horrible creatures and don't deserve any forgiveness! Remember, they have victims! Most are narcissistic sociopaths!
0 likes@Rick Mcdonald I can't believe you're comparing the effects of drugs like Cocaine and Heroin to Marijuana. Yes I agree that Marijuana is a drug, but it's a drug that has medically saved lives before. That's like saying people who were cured by Marijuana deserved to be in life for Prison for using🤦♂️ You need to realize how stupid you're sounding. You can't even overdose on Marijuana, unlike drugs like Heroin, coke and meth. Even Cigarettes have been proven to be worse on the human body than Marijuana is, and those are legal everywhere. But I didn't hear you say anything about those 🤔 Please don't try and compare Marijuana to some of these other drugs, and I've only smoked it about 3 times a couple years ago. But let's be realistic here, almost everybody uses Marijuana and when have you ever heard of it taking someones life? Just think about that...
0 likes@Brandon LM01 how was my situation so different from the average addict? You suggest that I have no idea what addiction is like, despite the fact that I was completely dependent on heroin from age 19 until I was 26.
0 likes@Kiekko 67 nobody had drug problems before drugs were made illegal? Are you sure about that? People had horrible issues with drugs for as long as humanity has existed. Alcohol and milk of the poppy were destroying lives long before the rise of the Roman Empire. You have a very rosy picture of the past if you think that drug addiction only became a problem after the 18th or 19th century.
0 likes@Jacob K. so committing armed robbery is okay if no one gets hurt and the suspect was only doing it to buy drugs? I truly hope no one ever robs you at gun point but if it ever does happen, I have a feeling your opinion on this will change.
0 likes@Trees not everyone is the same. Empathy and understanding is what i have for them.
0 likes@Rick Mcdonald
0 likesThat’s because drugs cost a fortune
and are full of impurities.
You do realize that these problems
wouldn’t exist, if drugs were legal
don’t you? ✌️
@Shadowbonbon 3 why don't they help themselves? I don't get any help and I appreciate it, be ur own fcking man, don't rely on anybody, and if u fcked up, u fcked up, it's that easy
0 likes@Insert Username Do you have any empathy and understanding for their victims? He made stupid choices and now he is paying the price! This isn't a disease, it is a character flaw!
0 likes@Trees yeah of course i do. How will anyone learn and grow as people if we shut them down so suddenly.
0 likes@Insert Username There are those who will never learn or grow/evolve. It is a harsh reality.
0 likesThe ''You are not my friend'' and ''The only reason why I came here is to get a fuckin coke, now get me back in a cell'' where the single best tools to put himself out of the range of being dominated and tricked. He just instantly understands that these guys have to work within rules and simply placed himself above them. You damn right i'm rooting for this guy.
492 likesJeff is a straight gangster.
0 likesIt's such a joke that they pretend to be trying to help you.
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It helps them deal with people, that are more (I guess) emotional.
51 likesAs a rational person , you would be glad that they use this but as you have shown , you probably sympathize with our antihero Jeff
It also shows the antihero “Jeff” was released because he didn’t incriminate himself. Roberto and “Jeff” are correct, they are not your friend. In saying that we do need police though!
43 likesOh I fell for this after the first time as a kid. Never again.
27 likesThe police is not your friends
25 likesWell, it's the "interrogation" room, if you are accused of something they will try all kinds of tricks so you can start talking.
16 likesIt's their job to get the truth out of you (or at least what they think it is), and it's your job to don't fall on their tricks.
Keeping a guy who is a danger to himself and society behind bars is trying to help. Why do so many people struggle with this concept??
13 likes@Mpjakegaming no we dont
2 likesBut it's effective
1 likeYeah, but I have watched a lot of these cases and it's really the only way to break down a killer or liar. Unfortunately, people have to be pressured into taking the truth. It's a lose lose but necessary procedure because truth serum doesn't exist.
5 likes@Rick the Swift
15 likesProbably because the American sense of justice is about preventing more crimes from occurring by getting a conviction followed by a lengthy prison sentence with little to no thought for a concept known as rehabilitation. Also, because while an officer may say that their job is to find out the truth, trusting them to be honest and virtues while your freedom is on the line is ill advised.
@Rick the Swift because sometimes innocent people get convicted, the process is not fail-proof.
14 likesThat's how they get confessions from innocent people. They confess thinking that it's in their best interests
1 likemmm
0 likes@Rick the Swift go and put trump behind bars...he is a real danger.
2 likes@Rick the Swift Because the merit of our legal system is that it's supposed to be independent of what some police officer or someone like you views as "a danger to society." We require evidence for a reason. Yours is the same argument used for centuries to justify atrocities. You are apparently the one who cannot understand the REASON we have something called a burden of proof.
6 likesIt is also wrong to say that because he did something else illegal, for which he has already paid his penalty, it is okay if he is put in prison for something else which he did not do. Part of the problem with our legal system, and there are many, stem from this type of mindset. They will use crimes committed decades prior, even crimes completely unrelated, for which that person has already paid their debt to society, as leverage to get longer sentences. It is ridiculous, as people are being sentenced twice for a single crime. And these so-called three strike laws and whatnot are just ridiculous. Perhaps I could understand if someone commits an armed robbery, and within a couple of years does the same thing, but what ends up happening is that people are being arrested again for meaningless non-violent offenses, and this is used to justify lengthy prison sentences. They are, as I said, paying for a single crime twice.
Then there is the fact that putting people in prison for a crime they didn't commit and were possibly tricked or manipulated into a false confession is something that is so foreign to most people that they do not understand it could happen to them too. You think that you could explain your innocence and everything will be alright? The truth is that all it takes is being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and it is a fact that numerous people have been exonerated after serving lengthy prison sentences for something they didn't do. It could happen to anyone under the right circumstances, and it happens way more than many people think.
@Jiggy Potamus Rick the Swift sounds like a raging ISTJ.
0 likesI don't think it's unreasonable to assume the interrogating officer truly believes he is providing help, all he has to do is tell himself that by putting him in prison he is mitigating the risk that Jeff will at some point overdose, get murdered or have to live with himself after being responsible for the death of another person.
0 likes@Fred Absent clearly your intelligence has fallen victim to your cynicism. I'll say a prayer for you.
0 likes@Fred Absent you're not in a position to decide that having demonstrated your obvious lack of ability in judgement skill.
0 likes@Fred Absent you should go outside more often.
0 likes@Fred Absent ok boomer
0 likes@Jonas Strzyz Exactly
0 likes@Rick the Swift because it's not a perfect solution. cops only care about quick and dirty.
0 likesthat said, it isn't their job to be slow and clean either. that's what they are trained to do.
so... they're just average people???
0 likesJeff- “I’m 6’5, have multiple felonies, homeless, no job and am a heroin addict” Her- “Did you say.... 6’5”???
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THIS COMMENT
68 likes😳😳😳
9 likesLmaoo
6 likesAhahahahaha I diededed, gj buddy🍺
4 likesWait actually me when I saw the info 😂😂
33 likesWhy am I not getting any of these jokes? When did Jeff say that? At which point was there even a female in the video asking him questions??
6 likesHave I stumbled upon some weird "Legend of Jeff" cult or something???😳
"Jeff- “I’m 6’5, have multiple felonies, homeless, no job and am a heroin addict” Her- “Did you say.... 6’5”???"
@Rick the Swift females dont care about character. The taller the man, the better his odds are at getting between her legs. The tall man does not need to say a word. He is in.
30 likesRick the Swift.... female.... hmmm... it’s a joke about the information card that says he’s tall. It’s a joke that a tall guy can get attention despite anything else. It’s a tik tok format as well. Like— Hannibal Lecrer: killer, cannibal, 6’3, eats the rude Will Graham: 6’3?? 🥰🥰🥰
17 likesTrollPriestZandum so.... you’re definitely 5’4 and not getting ANY based on that response 🤣
30 likesI will testify to the validity of this comment.
6 likesIf your height stops you from getting girls... it wasn't your height.
28 likes@liljared711 not really. Being 5'3" pretty much stunts any chance with most females
8 likes@Bloodshot Red you must lack charm when I was that height I was pulling older girls and I had facial hair was like 14 lol
2 likesWhen banana
0 likesI'm 6'7" and I approve this bias.
1 like@Michael J untapped potential.
2 likesLmao...
0 likes@Genesis V I appreciate your attempt to explain your cult's sense of humor, but I must ask, What exactly are you referring to when you say "the information card that says he's tall"? I didn't see any height info in the video or its description. If you are referring to your own perceptions, then please let me share mine- In the video I see a very scrawny, feeble and little person- possibly even less than 5 feet in height, and in no way weighing more than 95 lbs.
0 likesI'm curious as to how your cult obtains it's "information cards" though, so sincerely hope you might continue to help an uneducated brother understand what it takes to acquire such insight 🥰
Rick
@liljared711 It's not my height that stops me from getting girls I don't think, it's probably because I' married 🤣
4 likes@Rick the Swift 1:52 information card
1 like@Rick the Swift well if you're married and you still wanna get girls , chalk that up with your wife 😂
4 likes*sad 5'1 noises*
0 likes@Rick the Swift lol a cult no, but unless you speak the language of memes you're not going to survive in these comments sections
3 likesIM SOARING
0 likesthis is too funny! XD
0 likes@Grant H. I am 5' 7'' 🙂
0 likesI was a heroin addict for a decade also. (Clean now for 3 years) & there’s no way I could’ve kept it together as well as Jeff dopesick especially. Jeff 2020! Wonder how Jeff’s doin now..
5 likesYo my old high school friend who became a banker had his fiance chest on him with a 6'3" convict, he left her, but why the fuck would she do that?!?!?!
1 like@Dillon Young 6'3
1 likelmaooo
0 likesThis comment is everything 🤣
1 likeHe's kinda cute
1 like@Genesis V I'm dead ☠☠☠☠
0 likesLiterally me when i heard he was 6’5
2 likeswait so you're married but complaining about women's superficial nature when looking for life partners? Does your wife fit in this category as well?
2 likes@Rick the Swift Well, I'm glad I could help! :-)
0 likes@Rick the Swift but you- I'm not even going to explain how this is problematic
1 likeHeight helps, but it won't make up for a lack of confidence
0 likesRick the Swift r/whooosh
2 likesKaty Allison glad you’re clean! That decade occasionally feels like lifetimes doesn’t it?
0 likes@Genesis V my man is 5'3 and is fine af. I love men my size. Had a bf that was 6'7 and it was hard to cuddle.
0 likes@Bloodshot Red my boyfriend is 5'3 and has had plenty of chicks flocking. He's fine AF. Shit I was the one who propositioned him 4 years ago. Now we have 2 little babies and I couldn't be happier.
0 likes@juni q same here lol.
0 likes@liljared711 bruh youre so cool
0 likes@Aaron van Zomeren thx daddy 😍😘
0 likes@liljared711 Straight facts
0 likesPlot twist. Everyone was a paid actor and this was nothing but a marketing stunt by Coca Cola.
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legendary conspiracy
51 likesso good youll rob a bank for more !
34 likesthis made me literally lol
7 likesWith Anti-Drug-Campaign included...
11 likesOr, this is Jeff reaching out to you. He is sharing his story by selling cola. Go now! And buy Coka Cola and NEW Coca Cola Twist LMT. For that REAL American fresh!
7 likesRG that was hilarious 😂
1 likeIf so, the guy playing Jeff deserves an award.
2 likesJeff definitely has a Coke problem!
3 likeshonestly wouldnt be surprised
0 likesWhich contains the drug Caffeine.
1 likeJames Murray It used to contain Cocaine, that’s how it derived it’s name.
0 likesHanna it’s not a conspiracy it’s what actually happened
0 likesTastes good doughnut?
0 likesDon't forget about butterfingers
0 likesit worked. i. don’t even like soda and i’m craving a coke right about now
0 likesI’d say yes, but sugar/caffeine are uppers and heroin is a wee bit of a downer
0 likesthis dummy "where do you get your methadone"
3178 likesThe Legend, Jeff: "i dont, i get heroin"
like, thanks for being so damn real, Jeff
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I almost woke my kid up laughing at that shit lmao 😂
8 likesCops :come on dude we got a snickers and a bag of chips for you
22 likesJeff: ok fine I started world war 1
Cops: what else?
Thanks for the subtitles
0 likesI loved that moment
0 likes@White Alliance lmao
0 likesHe's not saying it as a quick witted comeback. He is aware that extensive periods of time in police custody entitles you to see a doctor who can make your stay more comfortable by prescribing Opioids for heroin addicts. Same as any other prescriptions you are currently prescribed. (these are UK rules I'm going by, but I'm assuming human rights are still available in America)
1 like@BFB-DanceySteve youd be wrong about that last part
1 like@BFB-DanceySteve yeah about that whole human rights thing in America… we don’t really believe in those sadly.
1 like@Jaina Mormont Do you just go on every comment typing the same thing? Everyone is aware it got said in the video. We're just going over the things that were said. Thanks for the unoriginal comment.
1 like@Bird101 haha thanks lmao :)
0 likes@Jaina Mormont you need to find a hobby, dude.
0 likesLegend has it Jeff is still out there, passing out on friends couches. Scheming up new ways to get some frosty coke's and maybe... just maybe... a sweet crunchy butterfinger..
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This was strangely beautiful
22 likesHe is clearly a menace to society & needs to be locked away for the rest of time. s/
5 likesAngelina Ramponi how is COVID relevant to this ?
2 likesDrGamer covid is relevant to anything. It’s changed lives forever. I agree ^. It’s funny that mao closed all opium dens and most of our opioids come from China. China knew the negative effect it had on their population and yet now it’s happening in America.
2 likes@Angelina Ramponi Dying from overdose,not heroin.During prohibition every fricking alcohol user broke the law every time they used it,they needed help,they got it,a sensible change to the laws.(from some points of view,others still ban it as the toxic poisin it is)
5 likesBruh, the misplaced apostrophes in the comment of JCS videos is excessive. Please stop.
1 likeAngelina Ramponi 🤣
0 likes@Angelina Ramponi he a grown ass man he should be able to do whatever drug he wants
3 likesLegend has it jokes are sooooo pld and not funny anymore
0 likesLOL
0 likesDrunken Ninja Hahahaha
0 likesHarrison Hart junkie* not methhead. Very important distinction.
0 likesNote, if you ever get interrogated the right to remain silent is your greatest friend.
1238 likesAs Rodrick Heffley once said: "No matter what they ask you. No matter how hard they push. Deny, deny, deny...Never admit to anything, deny, deny, deny."
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Don't even deny, because they can say that's lying. Just don't say anything
159 likesJust dont get arrested.
32 likes"deny"? ok.
25 likescop: so you are innocent
suspect: no
edit: sh*t some already made that comment
Officer: okay I’m just gonna need you to sit down in that chair and talk to me
14 likesMe, remembering the wise words of Rodrick Heffley: that’s not a chair
But thn I'll cry 🥺
1 likeunless you did something wrong.
0 likes@xhu cry about it
1 likeTelling the truth is a lie they tell u in school. Just keep ur mouth shut all the time
3 likesI don’t understand why so many people talk, innocent or not, without a lawyer
2 likesThat's wrong. Don't deny anything. Don't say anything at all to anyone that isn't your lawyer.
2 likesBruh, just tell them the truth and stick to it.
0 likesHow’s your day
0 likesYou gonna say something
Dude say something right now or I’ll shot
(Can’t get info if I’m dead lol)
@Ben Hardcastle 🥺
0 likes@Devi thanks. 🥺
0 likesyou do know they will an can hold you until you make a statement right ?... i use to say no comment to alot it an they kept me held for two days until i admitted to something i didnt do. silence isnt the best option legit
1 like@Sydney Gadzovski what kind of innocent? ;)
0 likes1k thumbs up!
0 likescould they use your displayed emotions such as crying against you?
0 likes@Romee Matehe they can't hold you forever. They kept him 12 hrs. This is exactly how cops get their convictions. Don't wanna be held for 72 hours but you're good with 15-20 years! Lol
0 likes@Fang1241 I think it was a joke
0 likesOr like the Buffet song, If a cop follows you for 100 miles, they'll find something to pull you over for.
0 likesYou have the right to remain silent.....
0 likes... Do you understand your rights?
....…..............................…..
................Jeff Do you understand your rights?
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😂😂😂😂😂
I wish the best for Jeff. Seems like a very sharp man and he needs help, not prison.
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You wouldn't say that if he burgled you.
9 likes@Smileyrie James He's an addict. Not a murderer. He needs help getting the illness of addiction out of his brain to make sure he never commits anything in the name of heroin again.
37 likes@TimBREAKRADIO yes exactly if he goes to prison for years he will be wasting tax payers money and he will end up in some prison gang probably trafficking drugs. This guy should get court mandated rehab and probation. It really helps.
5 likesHe’s a sick person trying to get well
4 likes@TimBREAKRADIO armed robbery isn't shopping lifting though is it...very high on the seriousness of crime list
0 likes@Max Ezaz and if he breaks that law..what then...prison...see where this is going...
0 likes@b.O.d 89 he's a sick person committing armed robbery to get more drugs...
0 likes@jamie jamieson If drugs caused Jeff to do something like rob a store, then maybe if you eliminate the original reason for aggression and desperation, and it wouldn't have happened in the first place, or atleast be prevented from happening again. Prison will only make matters worse. I'm not saying that he should be let off the hook for LITERAL armed robbery, yet I doubt dehumanizing him in the prison system will solve the issue we're addressing here.
2 likes@TimBREAKRADIO so we no longer punish armed robbers...I'm glad you dont run the country
1 like@jamie jamieson And I'm glad you could comprehend my points. Oh wait.
2 likes@TimBREAKRADIO your points are invalid...the crime has been committed so its prison unfortunately.
1 likeI worked for a drug and alcohol rehabilitation centre...I know all about prevention and also causation...but once a serious crime has been committed it has to be dealt with properly. Dont act too clever mate you may find people have the same depth of knowledge on the subject...possibly even more
@jamie jamieson My point is that while yes, a serious crime was indeed committed and something has to be done about that, I'm not AT ALL saying he is off the hook, as you jumped to me saying "We no longer punish armed robbers," which is not AT ALL what I'm saying. Sending him to prison will only make matters worse. Sure, he'll "do his time," but the initial causation for his crime may still be unsolved. Drugs are available in prison. Who's to say he won't keep doing heroin while inside? Prison doesn't rehabilitate people, it institutionalizes them and makes them less of a human. My issues is that of the prison system and the options for addicts who make mistakes. Harmful mistakes? Maybe. But mistakes nonetheless.
1 like@men with ven Hey man, where's your other comment? I wanted to read it, cause it seems you've got a different view than me
0 likes@TimBREAKRADIO have you been to prison??
0 likes@jamie jamieson I know many people who have and are currently in, yet I myself have never gone. Your point?
0 likes@TimBREAKRADIO my point is...prison is a serious deterrent most ex prisoners will agree. But let's not argue..let's agree on some common ground, prisoners are still humans and should be treated as such, conditions inside are disgusting and unacceptable, rehabilitation is underfunded and under utilised. I'm sure we are more similar in opinion than how this conversation first started. Apologies for the way i began the process of debate...typing in an empty room can make me come across more cold hearted when in fact I am the other way inclined
1 like@TimBREAKRADIO I commented on something else but it was on a different thread. My view as an ex heroin addict is accountability. I understand heroin and I've lost over 10 friends to heroin and I actually had to be resuscitated myself. I have always had a unique perspective on addiction and getting clean and I stirred up a lot of shit in rehab. I hate the AA/NA model of being "powerless" over an addiction and I think treating it like it's a sickness is detrimental. I've seen too many people use that as an excuse when they relapse and dont assume full responsibility and I've seen that mindset kill some of my friends. I worked my ass off and payed for my addiction for 7 years without breaking the law once other than the drugs of course. Nobody including my wife had a clue I was on drugs and I was never caught or forced to get clean I just decided on my own ot was time to get clean. I called all of my friends and family individually and told them everything! I still relapsed and died at one point so it wasnt perfect but I'm 5 years clean now and will never touch it again.
0 likesSmileyrie James but he’s funny bro who cares lol
0 likes@G An-Ban actually i would lmfao
0 likesYou should totttttalllllyyyy do one where we see an interrogation of a person that ends up being innocent or wrongly convicted! That way we can see the psychology of the other side.
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He actually has done at least one, if memory serves, but I'm pretty sure it's on his Patreon. He should definitely do more. :)
17 likesIts on his Patreon, get it! JCS is worth 1 dollar :)
3 likesMaggie I’ve been a patron of his for months and I have no idea which video features the innocent person. Feelsbadman.
0 likesI use to work for a police department, when a police officer needs to talk to you, it means they don't have enough evidence and trying to get more evidence from you.
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Not true at all. They have nothing to lose by talking to you. Look at the Stephanie Lazarus case. They already had her on DNA evidence but wanted to interview her anyway to record her lying in order to strengthen the case even further.
4 likes@Ryan Bee yeah imagine cops only getting one piece of evidence and then giving up when the judge rules that piece out. "That wasn't it this time, your free to go until next time, Chad"
1 likeExsactly
0 likesI wonder if Jeff has seen this video 😎
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0 likesSome say it’s Christian Bale’s greatest role.
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Hahahahahaha bro that one cracked me up hahaha
13 likesI laughed more than I should. I probably woke someone, because it's 2 am XD
9 likesI’ve never seen Jeff and Christian Bale in the same room 😳
27 likesLmao
0 likesCould of sealed that Bale impersonation if they had a female cop question him, and he beat the female cop.
2 likes@Cory triggered?
2 likesI heard he had to lose 100 pounds in a week for the role
1 likeAmazing 👍 Tmj 👍
1 likeI can’t help but love Jeff. He reminds me of my brother who is definitely a lot like him in the addiction aspect yet anyone who meets him will say he’s the nicest person they’ve ever met. He’s kind, selfless, and funny. He struggles everyday to find himself. I truly hope both Jeff and my brother find salvation not destruction.
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I hope they do too.Tell him addict from addict to look for inner strength
15 likes@Eli The1 thank you so much!!!
2 likes@Mayra your truly welcome.I know we enjoy the high too much sometimes but we need to escape it before its really too late.Tell him to keep his head up always,life is beautiful its our situation we stick ourselves into that wont let us let go.
2 likes@Eli The1 Yes absolutely. I always tell him to keep fighting to never give up. He’s the only one who can truly decide to make a change and when he is ready we will be here to help him through it. I have faith that his day will come and that he will be able to live a happier healthier life.
0 likes@Eli The1 I wish you all the happiness and peace you deserve and I hope you always keep fighting!! God bless you!
1 like@Mayra thank you so much for that.I wont give up on me and god bless you as well.
1 like@Mayra being close to him and believing can be as hard as hell. But, believe me, that's so important, it's massive. My cousin was in troubles too. He only had my mum and grandmother to believe in him. He knew he wasn't alone and was still treasured. He cleaned himself.
0 likesAnd I hope also your brother will clean himself.
Then you'll be there to hug him 💖
Have you seen Jeff's youtube channel? He's fine as I can tell. I'm also heroin addict so I know what are you talking about, currently on methadone and getting my life straight. ps Jeff's yt is "The Legend of Jeff" he uploaded over 100 videos.
2 likes🙏🙏🙏
0 likesAlcoholics and addicts are usually of above average intelligence.
0 likesHe should get off ,he asked for an attorney and was refused !
0 likes“WHAM BAM THANKU FOR THE COKE PUT ME BACK IN DA CELL” took me out😂
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Thanks for the subtitles
4 likes9:23
8 likes@Jaina Mormont You commented this on another thread. She was relating her reaction to a quote. Come on, Jaina.
3 likes@SM Music Plus haha thank you!!
0 likes@Zachary Teibel Thanks for your interest!
1 like3:57 the same reason women like bad boys lol
0 likesImagine if Jeff never started using heroine, the guy had been addicted for over 10 years and hung out with the wrong people, and still he can manage to stand his own in an interrogation. That would have been a pretty smart guy I'd say.
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He is street smart for sure. Its a common thread. He can be successful just he isn't.
48 likesHeroin addiction does not reduce owns creativity or intelligence. Quite the opposite actually (through my exposure to such addicts). Many have soared creatively while addicted and lost it once clean. Not condoning addiction or heroin at all. Just my experience with them.
38 likesI’d say hanging around the wrong people and getting arrested multiple times is what made him so good at standing his own in the interrogation.
21 likes@ouimetco I'm glad you shared this, I never used aside alcohol
1 likeTrue this, early recovery is a zombie phase. Nothing productive comes out of an addict in early recovery
2 likesYou mean clever, not smart. These interrogations are poorly executed and conducted by your average joes with poor training. But in the case of an intelligent criminal needing interrogation, they have a special unit for this which is normally handed off to the F.B.I. If you are being interrogated by moronic officers then you're not very bright, to begin with.
8 likesI know this because I studied the interrogation performed by these special units and the difference is astronomical. The environment, the ambiance, the way they spoke, the way they articulated their questions everything about their interrogations were set up to defeat a madman. For madness is intelligence, but to control madness at a hyper-intelligent level would be pure insanity. When Oppenheimer was interrogated by the security union taskforce - F.B.I / C.I.A / H.L.S they were overwhelmed and then another taskforce was created until they had to close the whole investigation altogether. Oppenheimer manifested his insanity and fear into others to the point where all his psychiatrists and psychologists dropped his case after the first session with him. The destroyer of worlds had a mind that even a god would fear because of how insane his thought process was, and after they dropped little boy and fat man he was never the same, and the help he would seek would not come because of how all these specialists and experts would disintegrate before his very words.
at one point i started to calculate how much id spent on drugs over a 20 year period while working as a "functioning" addict... its fucking depressing to see you have wasted close to a million on drugs
7 likesNope, if he would be a smart guy he would never take heroin in the first place
0 likesI completely agree what a brain power just wasted on drugs.
1 like@Kindred Could you link me to where you studied about this
1 like@kuszynier some of the smartest people ever were to be fair. It's a said fact of life.
2 likesKuszynierEntertainment okay Susan
2 likes@nig a damn what did u do to make all that money
1 like@nakula kaufman worked full time spent 60% of my income on drugs, also had a huge inheritance which i wasted, that was $300k over 5 years, it all adds up, should have made better life choices, but thats life we make mistakes and its what we learn from them that matters and that its never to late to turn your life around. took me 7+ years to get fully clean of all hard drugs, i still occasionally smoke a joint at a party, but i dont drink nor do heavy drugs at all
2 likesAustin Blackburn yes your absolutely correct as shown in many studies (Psychiatria Danubina, 2011; Vol. 23, No. 1, pp 53-59). However it also seems to further creativity in some select individuals. Perhaps those that were already highly creative (see Steve Earl interview for example where he discusses his addiction).
1 likeI feel his addiction is what made him this strong
2 likesRedux yes in my limited experience is seems to have not only terrible costs to a person but also some hidden value creatively. Although it certainly is terrible like any drug addiction.
0 likesI hope the best for him. He's intelligent, brave, and entertaining to watch. He's relatively handsome as well.
0 likes@Old Man Superfly detox and recovery does
0 likesKindred please tell me more
1 likeDo you mean successful? He's already smart by evading the questions from the detective. Street smarts is better than book smarts any day.
0 likesEither Jeff is a genius or those cops are brain dead.
290 likesLet's go with both
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most cops are
4 likesDain Bred 4chan! OMG JACKIE!!! thx 4 join me.
0 likesok cool period.
0 likesThe latter!!🤪🤪🤯🤯🤣🤣
0 likesBless you Jeff, we are all pulling for you.
0 likesThat "thanks for the coke" was sarcasm, lmao
0 likesIf yall think Coke hired Jeff to work on their corporate marketing team then yall are a bunch of fools.
0 likesWhat is Jeffs last name? What state/city is this is?
Seems like if he is back in the system he would be able to be found pretty easy.
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0 likesDude: you have the right to not answer without an attorney
738 likesJeff: Doesn’t answer and wants his lawyers
Dude: BUT WHY
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I know. He read the rights and Jeff was like oh ya remain silent and they were like wait no
11 likesThat’s the point of having to read them lol
I see a fellow Slipknot fan
3 likesBecause he must wait and bleed first
1 likeThis guy requested a lawyer 50 times, interrogated him multiple times without giving him one.
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and still owned them, without a lawyer, like a boss
108 likesThats why he knew he had this in the bag. If the cops have solid evidence they'll give you a lawyer no time flat. But if their trying to play you this is what they do. Its sad 1 he's being detained their giving him snacks and sodas to get you to relax and after hours of this most people give in and relax and start talking. Which almost always ends up fucking them over.
6 likesJeff is awesome. He’s way more likable than any cop. He’s the perfect example on how you should conduct yourself around police
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Exactly!! This video shows all the ways cops will try to get you to speak, all the lies they’ll throw at you. Jeff shut down every single one. He would be a dream client for a defense attorney honestly lol
44 likesmost cops are trying to get you to confess to robbing a bank, so you don’t need to employ any of these tactics usually. if you get pulled over and refuse to speak to the cop things are gonna go a lot worse for you than if you had spoken to them
15 likesConsidering he's also going further and further into heroin withdrawal during this whole series of videos, he conducted himself extremely well.
7 likes“Thanks for the coke” that actually broke my heart man. This whole interrogation seemed unethical
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The armed robbery however... that is okay as long you are not the victim huh?
14 likes@IV X They didn't know he was guilty. They tried to trick him into prison using his withdrawals, that is highly unethical.
206 likes@IV X He is innocent until proven guilty
121 likes@mikel1998100 No one’s using his addiction, they are literally following the procedure every single interview follows.
8 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun They deny him a lawyer for hours after he repeatedly pleads for them - that is the biggest possible violation of this procedure that can be done.
135 likes@Martin Svoboda Hours? He asked for a lawyer in one session and it was terminated right after he asked for a lawyer as it should. Then he changed his mind, got a deal with cops and went into another interview. There are zero violations on this case. If there were JCS would’ve mention it.
8 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Egg and Chicken. They refused to stop talking to him and getting him lawyer, so he at least got Coke from it. And I literally care 0 % if what they do is legal. It is obvious what it is morally and that they deny him what he has right for and manipulate him to "oficially" be in right to do so.
48 likes@Martin Svoboda He changed his mind about the lawyer. It is his right to do so.
4 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun This is absurd. His agency was at the level of a guy you smash with his own hand and scream "why are you hitting yourself" at him. You can say that he expressed his will freely as much as you want to, it doesn't make it so.
24 likes@Martin Svoboda Well, actually no. He asked for a lawyer with his free will, and then changed his mind with his free will. Which is completely in his rights.
3 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun The choice was between talking against his best interest and will, or suffering more through withdrawal, assuming he wanted the sugar to deal with the withdrawal. That isn't a free choice man.
27 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun All because all interviews go like this doesn’t mean they’re ethical. They use the REID technique which if you take one criminology class it’s one of the most unethical and most called out interviewing styles. So I get you’re a boot licker, but maybe look into this more before commenting on multiple comments defending this terrible process.
26 likes@Só Léo Taking drugs were his free will too. Laws don’t care about withdrawals.
2 likes@Samantha : Samantha I am a law major. I work with this every. single. day. Reid is only used when the ineterrogator is 100% sure that the subject is guilty. If there is an OUNCE of uncertainity şt won’t be used because it may very well produce false confessions and we often object to that. Is it completely ethical? Of course not but in reality most things aren’t anyway.
1 like@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Didn't say it was illegal, i said it was immoral. Ethics are separate from laws, sadly.
29 likes@Só Léo Exactly. That’s why law doesn’t care about ethics. It is subjective and law cares about facts
0 likes@Samantha : Who said I’m talking about US? We don’t do that here.
0 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun https://www.cga.ct. gov/2014. /rpt/2014-R-0071.htm speaks about how widely used it is. Also mentions it’s critiques (while of course stating some of its “advantages” but that’s not comparing it to other successful interview styles). It’s also important to note that those advocating for the REID techniques are police forces and other entities that actively use this. For instance, the people arguing against those that called out this technique for false confessions are literally the people who created the REID technique. Thus, it’s obvious to state that the less bias and actually research Critisms are more accurate in this instance. Therefore, their biases heavily influence how they will react to this technique.
15 likesI also have a very hard time to believe you’re a law student when in another comment you mention that “false confessions don’t happen” which all you need to take is one law class to know that this is false, and that people like Jeff (experiencing a withdrawal) are more likely to falsely confess. A study by Kassin and peers literally explain how the REID technique can lead to false accusations, meaning that no they do not only use this technique when they are “100% sure the suspect is guilty” so I have no clue where you got that statistic from. One quote even states that “in the United States, false confessions were a contributing factor in more than 20% of these cases”. As I stated above the US is know to either use the entire REID process or apply many of the steps to their interrogations. To the point that the tactic used in THIS video in which the police stated that they have evidence has literally been proven to heighten the chance of false allegations “Over the years, basic psychology research has shown that misinformation, as presented through confederates, witnesses, counterfeit test results, bogus norms, or false physiological feedback, can substantially alter people's visual perceptions, beliefs, memories for experienced and observed events, and behaviours.”. The article by Kassin et al is called: Interviewing suspects: Practice, science, and future directions. If you want to look into it. So before you want to comment support for the tactics used under multiple comments maybe make sure to research the many criticisms of these types of interrogations.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun This interview of Jeff is in the US. Thus, at the moment we are talking about the US.
25 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Guess those facts like changing a lot, since laws do that. Good one, dude.
4 likes@Só Léo Criminal law and other laws are different. It will never be legal to murder someone without a reason because it is a violation of basic human rights. Also, facts do like to change. It’s science.
0 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun It will likely never be legal, but the definition and degrees of murder are based on what we consider moral or not.
12 likesI like that you picked the easiest possible example. How about when the law changed to make slavery a crime? Or what crimes warrant the death penalty, if any, or if weed is legal or not, totally not subjective, yeah?
Facts don't change, science changes because we discover other facts.
@Só Léo Let’s see, we all agree on basic human rights. Right? We decided on them based on what will harm people. And that is a fact rather than something subjective. Slavery has negative impact on humans and therefore against human rights and illegal. Weed has zero to minimal health risks on people, no one died overdosing from weed and therefore should be legal everywhere.
0 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Idk what you're smoking but weed can have serious impact on health. Literally ask anyone who smokes a lot and often for years and years. There have been cases of death even and it's known fact that it can cause heart arrhythmias and sudden cardiac arrest. Only reason ppl say you can't overdose on it is bc it isn't clear how much is too much and bc when it comes to heart issues it's hard to prove that there couldn't have been other factors causing it than weed. Yes it's safer than most drugs and alcohol etc but you shouldn't spread bs abt it only to push your personal agenda.
6 likes@Once Twice Smoke inhilation can have some impact on health but that’s it. There is absolutely zero reason why weed would cause arrythmia or cardiac arrest and you literally cannot overdose on weed. You’re the one who’s spreading BS to push personal agendas.
1 like@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Right, but weed isn't legal everywhere. And it's not like the places where it is illegal don't have access to the information that it's isn't dangerous. The reason it's banned is because of people having a subjective repulsion to the drug and/or the people that use it. Ergo law isn't just objective.
2 likesSame with slavery, do you really think everyone thought slaves literally weren't human back when it was legal? Ofc they did. But they let it be legal because it was great for economic reasons. And their subjective opinion was that it was worth the violation of human rights.
By your logic slavery is harmless right up to the point that it becomes illegal. Because if it's not against the law, and the law is objective, then it's fine. And if it's against the law, and the law is objective, it's not moral.
That's not how laws work, we decide what should be a law or not by having an ethical discussion, at least that's how it's supposed to be. And as you said, ethics are subjective. Therefore laws are also subjective.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Btw, what will harm people is not objective. The meaning of harm itself is subjective, let alone what causes it.
2 likes@Once Twice There is literally no one who has died from weed besides 1 kid who was allergic and ate a shit ton of brownies made with thc concentrates, who didn't know ahead of time that he was. He died from his allergies though, still sad. There's a reason you didn't give any examples of people dying from weed. It doesn't happen.
5 likes@IV X No, the real problem is that if they railroad this guy then the actual people that committed the crime are still at large, and will never be investigated for this again. For everyone innocent that is lead to a false confession you have a criminal (or group) that just got away with it and are now possibly even more emboldened.
2 likesA crime happened, assuaging the victim's feelings of insecurity (which you can do by finding some random guy and hanging him in the town square) is not the point of the police force.
We don't tolerate police, their tactics, and brutality (they are brutal towards those they suspect are criminals, which is required) just to make people feel better. We tolerate all of that because they get it right a lot of the time. The rules of evidence and rights of the accused are very important tools to help keep policing more toward getting that right and less toward giving everyone a false sense of security through the periodic sacrifice of innocents.
@Martin Svoboda I agree, first off this isn't a human interaction, the police and the suspect are not on anything remotely close to equal footing. The police have an incredible power advantage in literally every real way. The only power that a suspect has (in the us at least) is remaining silent. The police have a multitude of levers they can use against him, and they're well versed in all of them.
1 like@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Come on man, they may be following procedure and it may be legal, but claiming that they're not benefitting from his withdrawals or that they aren't aware of how that can be used against the guy is an insult to the intelligence of everyone involved.
6 likes@IV X that's whataboutery. The robbery does NOT give cops the excuse to violate human rights. Come on.
3 likes@eternal rain "France, published this year in the Journal of the American Heart AssociationTrusted Source, researchers identified 35 cases of cardiovascular complications, amounting to 1.8 percent of all serious side effects from cannabis use reported to a government database. Nine of the patients died." Let me know how being wrong feels.
1 like@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun laws dont care abt medical conditions goes brrrrrrr
2 likes@Novak withdrawals are not medical conditions until it causes an emergency
0 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Are you, yourself a cop who has done things they shouldn't have? Because any reasonable person would understand the difference between a person making a choice of their own free will, versus making a choice under extreme duress. There's a LEGAL precedent for that - if you bully someone into giving you sex, by asking over and over until you get a yes, that is legally considered rape. It is well-documented that consent given under duress is not consent.
3 likesThis is EXACTLY what the cops did in this situation. They bullied him into giving up his rights. They denied him a lawyer over and over for hours, and continuously tried to interrogate him without one (which by the way is against the law; legally, once you say "I want a lawyer", they are supposed to stop talking to you until the lawyer shows up), until he gave up because he realised he wasn't going to get a lawyer no matter what. In ANY other situation, this would be considered "duress". In a sexual situation, it would be a crime. There is NO justification for it. You're just outing yourself as a psychopath who feels no empathy for others, really.
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun No... Basic human rights are actually completely subjective, and vary wildly from place to place and from time to time. For example - the US has freedom of speech. My country does not. You have no right to freedom of speech where I live. Some countries have NO basic human rights at all.
3 likesI don't think you even know what a fact IS, buddy. A "fact" is something like "The Earth is a planet". An opinion is "I think this is morally wrong/I think this has a negative impact on humans". To use YOUR example, I'm pretty sure the slave owners would strongly disagree with your idea that slavery had a negative impact.
@LordofFullmetal Nope. I am a criminal law lawyer. From the tape we don’t know if they DENIED him a lawyer, all we know is after he asked for a lawyer he was taken to his cell and five hours later he was back talking to cops which is legal because in the tape it is clear that there has been a deal between Jeff and the cops. Clearly he changed his mind and made a deal. It can take way longer than five hours to get a lawyer especially if it is being provided by the government. Cops have no say in this.
0 likes@LordofFullmetal Human Rights are decided by the United Nations and are universal. A country not following those rights doesn’t mean it is not a human right.
0 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun wait so I’m just trying to keep up... you said you’re a law major, but now you’re saying you’re a criminal law lawyer. So are you a student or a practising lawyer?
1 likeit was, he asked for his lawyer more than once
0 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun no, they're supposed to bring a damn lawyer when he asks , pole.
0 likes@Rae Major, as in finished the school. I made it clear in many comments that I’ve been in and out of these kind of situations many times.
0 likes@Buggle Magnum It can take up to 6 hours. We are not always free and government is pretty slow.
1 like@eternal rain that doesnt sound real are you in school still
0 likes@Once Twice smoke. inhalation. doesnt mention whether they also smoked cigarettes, doesnt mention how they died, just that they did use cannabis, and happened to die. yea bud,everyone dies.
1 like@Once Twice also >france
0 likesi rest my case
@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Both our legal and criminal justice system is a mess and most of the world laughs at us so any legality you pull out of your ass as an excuse is just that... an excuse. As a lawyer you should probably know all of this but clearly you lack the humanity to see this situation from any other perspective but your own and are just as much a part of the problem. Congratulations!
0 likes@Peter B Yes YOUR criminal justice system is a mess and yes WE laugh at you. I am not a part of YOUR problem, I'm just pointing out the facts and laws.
0 likesAs soonn as he asked for an attorney and the cop kept pushing for more that when the ethics went right out the window
0 likes@Once Twice Okay, so quote the actual study. How do they know its from smoking weed and not just a coincidence with those low numbers. What are the control numbers, how long were they studied for? How does it feel to be tricked into thinking weed might kill you if you're not allergic,
0 likes@Buggle Magnum I don't care if you don't think it's real. You can look it up. No I'm not in school anymore either. It is rare but you can be allergic to weed.
0 likesEven if he has a lot to learn, I believe Jeff can save the world.
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😭I just watched the finale before clicking on this video
1 likeThe last dopebender
22 likesLong ago, the four nations lived in harmony, then the police nation attacked
8 likesBUH BUH BUHHHHHHHHHH!!!
0 likesJeff HAS learned a lot!
0 likesSo how this dude finished?
0 likesGetting a junkie alone in a room for 5 hours to try and break him after he already asked for a lawyer..... what a bunch of snakes.
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Yeah you can tell he was withdrawing hard after the 5 hrs went by. He had bad restless legs and couldnt sit still. Ive been through it numeorus times.
190 likesWithdrawal is so awful.
84 likes@Gutzz Gutzz yeah the way he kept rubbing his feet n shit too, been there smh. Proud of him for milking them for cokes while going thru that, that couldn’t been easy
112 likes@Fun gun benzo w/d can be more dangerous, but heroin w/d is honestly something I wouldn't even wish on my worst enemy.
18 likesMust of sucked I was put in isolation by a cop for three days while I withdrawed from the opiates I was on from a major surgery. The only evidence they had is that I rode past the crime scene a day after it was committed on my dirt bike. It was a remote area and the camera was setup to catch people dumping. I just recently had a large metal bar placed underneath my rib cage to push my ribs and sternum outwards. Imagine the pain of braces but its in your chest and slowly cracking your ribs. Plus when coming off the opiates the pain gets way worse you cant lay down and put pressure on it, So i stood the whole time and they wouldn't turn the lights off or give me reading material. I was an 18 year old kid and when the same cop came to take me out three days later he said he did it because I disrespected him. And that he had no intention of actually further pursuing charges. So I spent three days in isolation with a loon who kept flooding his toilet and throwing his shit and screaming. And they wouldn't let me sleep or read or give me anything to sit on not even a gym mat. All because I was disrespectful to a certain police officer and all I did was refuse to speak to him. when he kept pushing me and started yelling at me he grabbed my bottle of gatorade he let me bring in and threw it at the wall behind my head and told me I was going to jail.
72 likes@Nate Yes, everyone should feel sorry for addicts because they're in a cycle of hell caused by mental illness. Hope for yourself that nothing bad ever happens in your life that gets you caught into addiction.
60 likes@Nate yeah, mocking disease makes you very smart.
26 likes@Luke Ellis But what was the crime that happened at the crime scene?
0 likes@Nate let me explain how drugs work.
32 likesPeople take them as an escape, NOT an exuse. If you have a terrible life, (let's say your mother just died for example). And a drug that allows you to have happiness or just forget your pain people will take it. Even something as simple as a pharmacy disputed pain killer can give an escape to many life problems. no junkie says "I take drugs for fun." That's no junkie, that's a fucking idiot.
A good quote is "drugs are a junkies food, try living without food for even a day. Food isn't a want, it's a need. Just like how drugs are a need for a junkie."
So before you say these people with a addiction are wrong for even having having an addiction.
I get it, these people aren't perfect. But neither are you.
@Luke Ellis nuss procedure, I had it done 6ish years ago when I was 14. Fucking ruined my life.
6 likes@Nate you saying "I wont never do drugs" is a double negative. therefore what you actually just said is "I will do drugs" LMAOO
7 likes@Nate stay off the surgery table Nate. Doctors makes more addicts than rock n roll
11 likes@Fun gun I hear people say benzodiazepines are awful to withdraw from and I have done it no problem numerous times maybe cuz I took so many opiates along with it but I didn’t have any withdraws from that either so idk 🤷♀️
0 likes@Nate Lol Then take care of yourself and avoid surgery and chronic illness. The first cases of Oxycontin abuses started as a prescription by doctors.
6 likes@Nate So... you have no empathy for others ?
1 like@Mandy Kitson He probably can't spell empathy without spellcheck doing it for him.
3 likesThat's what the fucking "Justice" system is
0 likesAddiction to drugs can happen to anyone. Whether it starts from a prescription, surgery table, trying out something new, or even at a party. How do you think people get addicted to alcohol? Most of the celebrations involve alcohol, isn't that having fun? My first time trying alcohol was at a Thanksgiving dinner, and boy did I like it... My friends love smoking marijuana, but that shit makes me sick. I guess not everything is for everyone, it depends on the environment and the people you grow up with. Honestly you just have to be smart. You can go to a party and do drugs once in a while, but it's up to you to keep doing it or not.
3 likes@Nate I feel sorry for you man.
2 likes@Nate At least I don't think I'm better than everyone else.
2 likes@Gutzz Gutzz me too sucks
0 likes@Jess Hazen Benzos are rly bad to come off heavy addiction but after 2 months you dont give a shit about them anymore...opiates always haunt you..always want that high
1 like@Nate There's a lot of kinds of addictions. Beginning with you addicted to raise your voice in topics you don't understand (and not even trying to understand).
3 likes@Shitachan33 daaang get em
0 likes@Luke Ellis so sorry to hear that man. If you’re looking for someone to talk to (I definitely am), my insta is @asap_slams . Would mean a lot.
2 likes@Tyrone The lion thank you for you candour. And thank you for you diplomacy, responding to someone who is clearly an emotionally immature d-bag.
0 likes@Tropical Tan Everett lol!! I was about to say that!
0 likesIs it legal after someone asks for a lawyer, to just go on and on with questioning? Wondering how many times they have to ask, or demand a lawyer, and how many just give up
1 like@Viktor Birkeland yeah, anything intoxicating is addictive. the clean & sober people chain smoking & chugging coffee like water. Everyone's got at least one thing that intoxicated them
1 likeWhen i saw 5 hours later I felt so bad
2 likes@Luke Ellis Sorry that happened to you.
0 likes@JDC I meant hard drugs, like heroin or cocaine
0 likes@Tyrone The lion and alcohol? When it’s arguably worse than the drugs you’ve mentioned.
0 likes@Viktor Birkeland not true about sugar, in fact the whole ‘sugar rush’ thing has been proven to be a myth. It doesn’t work in the same way as drugs.
1 like@JDC it might be (I'm definitely not an expert) but I'm talking abt stereotypical hard drugs
0 likes@Luke Ellis wow thats awful
0 likes@Luke Ellis
0 likesYours is a lesson many have learned first hand, and if not first hand then from a friend or family member. The reason people have been burning down police stations is because a critical threshold has been reached, enough people have had enough. I think many more need to burn, and defunding.
I read cops are quitting in record numbers, and that made me so happy. Law enforcement is a tainted profession, a totally corrupt culture and with it combined with so many Americans' hero worship, and with the fact we've hired waaaaay too many cops, that's where we are. With the exception of large metropolitan areas easily 3/4 of all cops could be let go and crime stats wouldn't change, and might even go down, seeing as how much crime cops are committing.
@Bacon Cheeseberg you missed the point completely there, buddy. i guess you've never been in such situation before. they take the most arbitrary stuff and turn it into an accusation of disrespect. For me, it was a small nervous laugh i let out because i had been confused and scared to have been detained. That was enough for a bored officer on a power trip to capitalize on. My veteran friend later told me that these army rejects had been acting like this since school. The best you can do is to stay quiet and not give them anything in these situations. But that;s something you can't know without experience.
1 like@Bacon Cheeseberg bruh cops will find any excuse to use against you
0 likes@Gutzz Gutzz the worst is when it’s not a physical addiction problem but a behavioral problem. The second I stopped having access to alcohol, I started binge eating. When I didn’t have access to food, I spent hours on my phone. No matter how many times I remove the addictive trigger, I find another. Which shows I’m the problem.
1 like@parazjt how does it feel to be sober? Do you ever go through thoughts like, “I miss it” or “just this once” or “life is so grey without it.”
0 likesI feel that way on much lower scales but I seem to not break the cycle because those thoughts haunt me.
@JDC sugar is also addictive and cause a lot of health problems such as diabetes (the silent killer). Anything and everything should be done moderately or else even the harmless substances can become extremely harmful.
0 likes@Sophia Troanska I know your not directing this question at me but I’ve been clean for almost 4 years now and I’ve had the occasional dream and “triggers” I guess you would call them but all in all it give a me anxiety to think of my life before. My heart drops and it gets hard to breathe. It’s like I’m completely disgusted at the thought of going back to something I fought arm and limb to get out of
0 likes@Velma Ali sugar (glucose) is addictive as much as oxygen is addictive.
0 likes@JDC how is O2 addictive?
0 likesToo much O2 can be bad, but I just don't know how it is addictive 🤔
@Velma Ali It isn’t fair to compare sugar ‘addiction’ to that of drugs.
0 likesLook. Similar to oxygen and water you could say sugar (glucose) is physically addictive in the sense that if you tried to stop using it, your body would undergo biologic changes that would drive you to start "using" again. But this is more because you would die, than for any other reason.
In fact many addictive drugs take advantage of the biochemistry that is built around informing you of when you eat something tasty.
Your body/brain senses the levels of glucose in your blood/cells and can trigger your cravings accordingly. Glucose can trigger biochemical changes, and stimulate hormone and neurotransmitter release.
If you are saying excessive amounts of glucose can stimulate the same addictive cravings as other drugs, then yes. Glucose is tightly linked with craving and emitional ballance.
However if you are saying the molecule of glucose itself physically acts as a ligand co-opting the normal signaling pathways the way addictive drugs do, then you’d be wrong.
@JDC I did not say sugar and drugs are the same did I??? Please correct me if I did... I believe I said, sugar is also addictive and can cause harm to the body. That's all.
0 likesAnd asked several times
0 likes@Derrick Perez same, after he had asked several times for a lawyer
0 likes@Brutus Hey man im 17 and considering getting the surgery, why was it bad for you? I'd appreciate any info on what the aftermath was like.
1 like@Cashel hey buddy! Don’t let my case worry you too much! According to my surgeon, what happened to me was the only time he’d ever seen it. He has preformed the Nuss Procedure hundreds of times over the years and had never had a bad outcome up until me. He referred to me as his “Glitch” lol. May I ask, why is it you want the surgery? Is it purely for cosmetic reasons? In my case i HAD to get it done as it was quite serious and causing me lots of pain and restricting my breathing. If I never got it, it could have possibly been life threatening as I grew older.
1 like@Cashel to answer your other question I’ll just tl:dr it.
1 likeThe aftermath was extreme chronic pain. It left me with serious nerve and muscle damage which means i will have to take meds for the rest of my life. It also turned me into a serious opiate addict, which to this day I still am.
"Where do you usually get your methadone?"
4944 likes"I don't get it. I get heroin." nonchalantly opens coke with teeth
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his cavalier attitude to his addiction and how he seems so aware that it's destroying his life is honestly chilling
125 likes@jonbalderh most addicts understand they just don’t care or are too addicted
62 likesNobody decides 'I'm gonna do heroin' casually. You have to be hurting so much that you'd rather be dead anyway. At that point you give up on reality, and you just spend the rest of it fading away until you're gone.
98 likes@Torey Jones ^ that matches what I've seen
9 likes@Torey Jones i was talking about how a long time addict knows what they are doing but like i said before
4 likes@Torey Jones lots of people do heroine casually, actually. I've known a lot. Some devolved into addiction and some never did. Some stopped using casually and some still do every once in a while 20 years later.
8 likes@Torey Jones Casual drug users do exist. For every single drug. You just don't hear about them cause unlike Jeff, they can keep their shit together.
6 likes@Blake R only you know the truth..the others"heroin=death"
0 likes@Torey Jones it's also the greatest high ever. Like better than your kids being born every time you do it type good. That's what makes it so bad.
1 like@Jacob Ball And I thought the strict laws came from pharmaceutical companies shoveling opioids left and right to people who didn't need them saying that they aren't really addictive if you've got a prescription and the situation got so out of control, it was impossible any more to keep feeding people the story of businessmen who care for their well-being. I mean, obviously they took it to the other extreme.
3 likesObviously he's had a bit of experience opening cabs with his teeth! Evolution!
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
1 like@jonbalderh bro that's kinda part of addiction
0 likes@Captain America Thank you Captain.
0 likesMethadone clinics you can get those for free and if you take a benzo shortly after it’s as high as you can get and you’re in the faded stage for hours.
0 likesThat’s what my pastor said.
@Randy Butterson Thats not necessarily true. Many times using for so many years just desensitizes you to things. If you drive a car every day, you're not going to think too much about how you turn the key to turn it on. You know the risks of crashes and death, and some drive more recklessly than others, but ultimately you still drive (most people at least).
2 likesSame with addiction. Things just become the norm, and they no longer have the impact they would for others. Not really about caring about destruction or addiction, though that certainly happens, its just human nature to adapt and adjust to the environment and desensitize itself to stimuli. People who go to NA and who've been clean for years can still talk very casually about their use. Thats been my experience at least. They obviously care about what it did to their lives, but the way they see things is just different than people who haven't been addicted. When its your life everyday, its no longer something special, which is kinda the core of how addiction forms, isn't it?
@doubleffect yeah that's true.. in the 90s and early 2000s they were pushing oxycontin on people who came in for a headache. Anything , someone's finger got a paper cut , here's oxy, and pharma companies said it wasn't addictive bc it's was made from thebaine and didn't possess morphine .. they were pushing it on everyone. My dad died this way. You're absolutely right. I just forgot to mention that. Thanks for pointing that out
0 likes@doubleffect but the pharmacuetical companies don't ever want to lose money.. they got sewed out of billions
0 likesvery obvious that they were trying to get him go to jail. He asked for a lawyer and the lawyer never arrived, what a way to violate your rights. GOOD JOB JEFF.
170 likesdefinitive proof that 'country and 'uneducated' does NOT equal 'stupid'
1 likeJeff Rules XD
0 likes“You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand this?” *remains silent
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1166 likes@Rogue Mentality doesn't have to understand if he's pleading the 5th
250 likesPro gamer move
182 likesI think this is genius. Seems like the cops can only repeat their yes or no question before starting to grill the suspect with questions involving the incident.
312 likes@Rogue Mentality in what alternate universe do you come from where a DA needs your permission to charge you with a crime?
147 likeslol
3 likes@Rogue Mentality All those words and yet u didnt say anything
64 likes@Synchro Metanom "waive"... just sayin'
4 likes@Synchro Metanom Thank you for this wonderful explanation. Love to learn "on the spot". GREAT!! :)
8 likes@Rogue Mentality in the United States of America we have the right to remain silent, if you don't remain silent that's on you. It's not the "right to not be asked questions" They can ask you all the questions they want but we have the right to remain silent... do you understand that?
66 likesLOL good point!
2 likes@Rogue Mentality There is a reason they need a yes or no and that is Miranda v. Arizona. They need his understanding before interrogating him. He will still be charged and possibly found guilty (held "responsible"?) regardless of his answer to this question.
15 likesRogue Mentality thank you I was just going to say the same you saved me sometime! 😁
2 likes@Rogue Mentality The word "understand" just means that you comprehend what the officer is saying to you. That's it!
10 likes@Synchro Metanom Learning about law from sovereign citizen videos on YouTube will only fill your head with junk...... Well put. Bravo. I was getting so frustrated with this thread until you spoke. Thank you for the sweet relief.
12 likes@Rogue Mentality the agreement was made way before Jeff got to this interview. You can't rage quit your individual sovereignty just because things aren't going your way and think that represents the exercise of personal power.
1 like@jksemtex but he has just prostituted the very rights he up until this moment has taken as his due. you can't have it both ways. unless you brought a note from your mama.
0 likes@Constance Jones and Jeff not speaking isn't just as crooked?
0 likes@Dr. Pepper hey! I've got a birth certificate you know 🤭
0 likesSmartest interrogated move you could make. "You look like the prick", haha, 2nd and 5th Amendment in perfect synergy
9 likesLOL, that was so funny!
0 likes@Rogue Mentality they want him to know that by talking he is giving up his right to remain silent. But really they legally have to say that and then they try to trick him into thinking he needs to talk his way out of it
5 likesI have absolutely no love for Billy Bob Thornton’s character in that movie. I see him as a villain.
2 likesFr
0 likes@powbobs WTF
1 likeRach Bell I’m having a hard time following your logic. Comparing Jeff’s manner of conduct with that of the interviewing detective in the realm of professional integrity is an absolutely invalid and baseless argument. The reasoning for this seems so fundamentally obvious, it feels silly needing to explain. Nevertheless, consider the following; the detective’s moral and professional ethics can absolutely be argued as being either “by the book” or crooked due to the that fact interrogation of suspects is part of the job he willingly signed up to do, receives a salary for carrying out, and needed to get certified
8 likesto carry out via testing his comprehension of mandatory training educating him on which tactics of interrogation he is allowed to employ in order to obtain a confession and those which are either banned within his profession or simply illegal. Jeff however, is not a professional police detainee. He has been arrested and so his willingness (or rather obvious lack thereof) to be there getting interrogated is totally irrelevant. He is not being payed for his time (again should be obvious). He has been through the system before and understands police are legally allowed to mislead him into self incrimination by lying when saying things such as, “his situation looks bleak, so he might as well talk. If he talks now, they can put in a good word with the prosecutor. They have all the evidence they need to bring charges this second, they’re only sitting speaking with him in order to allow his side of the story to be heard...).
Now, hopefully by now you can understand my confusion in your comment labeling a civilian’s actions during police interrogation as crooked since he is not there by choice, nor is do the answers or way in which he responds subject to “crooked/straight” analysis as they would be if him being there was a part of his chosen career with explicit rules of conduct such as the police officers.
Even if we were to judge his behavior on a scale of perceived morality more or less to be acceptable or abhorrent within the sphere of public judgement, I simply do not understand what he did that made you feel as though he crossed a line when interacting with the several detectives? Is it simply a matter of feeling bitter that someone you perceive to be a dredge on the welfare of society had the ability to understand that based on his prior convictions, the police would not be wasting their time questioning him to this extent if they truly had strong evidence as they implicitly told him time after time? That based on this understanding, he knew if they would try to hold him as long as legally (or longer) possible hoping that the withdrawal effects of his addiction would lead him to admit to anything just so he could get out of that holding cell? Or is it that in our justice system even a junkie is afforded the same rights as you, and despite the police praying upon the exploitation of his disease to pry out a confession, he was able to hold out and eventually get released with no charges pending against him?
The last thing I want to know is how does any of this make him a sovereign citizen? He wasn’t some guy running up on police during a traffic stop shoving a camera in their face telling them how they are going against the constitution by doing a,b, or c...In fact he wanted as little to do with police as humanly possible. And none of the comments I’ve read on here which you felt inclined to label sov citzns seemed to be hell bent on pointing out police corruption or even abuse of power, they simply enjoyed seeing that even the most vulnerable population in our society have the power to not simply be helplessly thrown into prison without due process. Isn’t that democracy at work? Isn’t that what separates us from authoritarian governments who can imprison and kill their populations at anytime, without any reason, for any perceived offense? Seems to me that if you are upset seeing our laws played out in real time due to the less powerful ending up free, it is you who wishes to disconnect yourself from our country, declaring yourself a sovereign nation of one where it’s only your voice that counts.
@wtf is wrong with you Only up to a point though. They are not supposed to do an actual interrogation once you lawyer up, or the lawyer when s/he shows could potentially get stuff thrown out at hearing. Even the charges, depending how serious they are.
0 likes@Rach Bell um, no its not at all crooked, its his right. You should never speak if youre arrested.
2 likesfucking legend, LOL
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0 likes@David Parry this is a sad truth that I've suffered my own personal consequences from. Thank you for bringing awareness, @David Parry, to this lesser known group of sufferers at the police's hands. we need it especially now, when designer label victim groups are trying to claim a monopoly on the market
1 likethe interrogator is pretty bad in the beggining 🤣
0 likesI would too. Remain silent.
0 likesRogue Mentality No. understand means “comprehend” in every sense that the word is used.
3 likesEGstill85 - well said!
0 likes@Rogue Mentality He also said "comprehend" which means understand as we know it. He could have answered yes to that, but chose to exercise his right to remain silent it seems.
3 likes@peteywarren0829 Actually, he is right. Look up legalese
3 likesHe's beginning to believe
1 likei thought this was the legend of my name is jeff
1 like@Rogue Mentality that's not how that works
1 likeNod if you understand.
0 likesMy god it's Jason bourne
1 likeconfused pickachu
0 likes@Hamish R oh my go ur right
0 likesThat’s what I was just thinking and so I came to the comments
0 likesHe could remain in jail longer if he doesnt say yes or no. They can't interrogate him and to a judge and DA, his not acknowledging the Miranda points to more guilty than innocent.
0 likesNick H he is really smart
0 likesThat's why "legend"
0 likesAnd the legend was born at that moment.
0 likesmadnesz 246 same 😂😂😂
0 likesRogue Mentality calm down it’s just a joke
0 likes@Rogue Mentality - oh dear.
0 likesLOLOLOL
0 likesDo as him. The justice system only wants to ruin your life and make more fucking money.
1 like@Wax Me Georgia, USA. Not the country of Georgia
1 like@Kazuya he can invoke his right to be silent at anytime. But not the 5th amendment.
0 likes@Random User Have you ever wondered why legalese even exist?
0 likesLmao. Totally!!
0 likesSelf referential—good
0 likesNick H I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Germany there actually are a couple question you HAVE to answer in an interrogation. They're only about identifying you and I think about your rights, too. Maybe in the US you're required to answer the question about the Miranda rights, too.
0 likesLol
0 likes@Rogue Mentality Exactly...its the same in courts where they ask if you understand when they slap a fine or sentence on you. Much of the time you can either remain silent or say you do not understand. IT binds them up, and is one of the only defenses people have against ths tyrannical system.
1 likeIf I'm ever in that situation I'm pulling a Jeff
0 likesThe best understand of his rights is using them
0 likes@Rogue Mentality uh no. Hes literally asking if he can understand in reference to his rights
0 likesjust like on jack reacher
0 likes@Paul Colbourne Actually, after you request an attorney to be present, from then on your responses are no longer admissible in court and police must stop asking. (Davis vs. US, 512 U.S. 453 (1994). From the opinion: "A suspect is entitled to the assistance of counsel during custodial interrogation even though the Constitution does not provide for such assistance. Id., at 469-473. If the suspect invokes that right at any time, the police must immediately cease questioning him until an attorney is present. ")
2 likesjust like jack reacher. why dont the police understand? oh. my bad. we all know how the police are. next time ask for a beer if tjey want to talk. id talk all about sports.
0 likesIve been looking for
0 likesthis comment
The answer is no
0 likesWe need clear affirmation
0 likesNo
0 likesI just had to be the 100th comment ha ha! 😝 I do want a coke now though. 🤦♂️
0 likesNo I don't understand my rights.
0 likesThat's exactly what I thought, too! 😂😂
0 likesYes, I thought he was going to stay silent for the rest of the video, would have been much more funny lol
0 likes@wtf is wrong with you Hey dude, I'm sure you know but thought I'd point out for others. Your statement:
0 likes' in the United States of America we have the right to remain silent...'
This also applies to many other countries and actually originated in England in the late 1600's.
I don't know how many countries but I know it applies to ~26 in the Commonwealth.
@Kazuya Your statement:
3 likes'by talking he is giving up his right to remain silent'
NO! He doesn't give up his right to remain silent be talking! You imply that by saying something he then has no right to remain silent.
He can chose what questions he wants to answer.
FFS!!
1 likeI have always wandered why the police have to ask 'do you understand' before continuing. I mean what is there that is so hard to understand?! But reading through some of these comments, it is clear to me that plenty of people simply DON'T understand!!!
@Random User yes he is right. Here's the proof https://thelawdictionary.org/understanding/
0 likesSo iam silent
0 likesTHATS EXACTLY EHAT I THOUGHT LMAOOO
1 like@Cheyne How did it work?
0 likes@Martha belle Yeah.... see how far that gets you in a court of law. Good luck with that.
0 likes@Rogue Mentality Are you a lawyer? What happens if someone doesn't answer they understand if they are read their Miranda Rights? Have the police, if they feel he could be reasonably sure he probably understood his rights, or that knowing that he can hear and understand English done enough? I just never thought of someone doing that! Sheltered I know
0 likesRogue Mentality ,
0 likesNow that’s what I call a pro gamer move right there
0 likes@Rogue Mentality Nahhh you're wrong
0 likes@Rach Bell no.
0 likesLol he played it PERFECTLY. When they asked he said NO, and then the 2nd time said yes. Since he said yes second, it can be argued the second time he was reinforcing that he didn’t understand. Dude was on point
2 likesJeff is doing the right thing.
0 likesNick H Ah i found the comment people said i copied lol. My bad. Parallel thinking.
0 likes@EGstill85 i really appreciate your having taken your time replying with detail as you have. please accept my thank you . i really love when people are fully engaged. forgive me if that sounds patronising or off key in any way.
0 likesi suspect that you and i don't disagree . i didn't express myself well and was reacting (one of my specialties). i apologise for my righteousness and fully understand that i am not Queen of the World (though god knows i should be... wish i was, and you can have a turn too).
i wasn't considering the distinction you make between the professional position of one and the ... civilian ? position of the other. i do know how it is the letter of the law as i've heard say and in practice these specifics count. if i understand you properly.and i'm not sure what i think about making that distinction.
because for me? two people. come together. to refuse to take part seems silly to me. the excercise of personal sovereignty does not seem to me to be manifest in any way in the guy's behaviour, in anything about staying silent or not in this context.
i think it's silly to forge your sovereignty, your sense of your own value on playing games with police people. i think that is the other half of police corruption. those who want to play play. if i had to negotiate such childishness on a daily, hourly basis? i'd probably turn bad somehow and find myself trampling all over someone's sovereignty in filthy boots.
are we speaking about the same thing? do i understand your point?
does that opinion of mine achieve anything for me if i am in the position of having to account for myself as in this video? i wouldn't assume so. i'll be the one locked up in the basement forgotten and condemned and i'll still not know what i'm being accused of probably. we are all good enough. you and i. special to those who love us and sovereign most importantly to and in ourselves. on my day of being Queen of the World? everyone would know that so well they would speak when they are spoken to. and take part. i respect the law. but you know. people. i like people to tell me who they are. i like them to take their turn, as their due. regardless of whether their head will get chopped off. and how often is that the gauntlet anyway? how about a simple, 'yes i killed a man and buried him under the new pool' ? thats all.
due process - exclusion doesn't work in an interaction between two people. that's my line.
(you must stop discrediting my intelligence at the start. i must stop getting righteous)
so where do our different approaches meet i wonder.
yes
0 likes@peteywarren0829 To "understand" someone means to give validation.
0 likesTo believe in a statement coming from a person? Means to accept its authority over.
I say this and you do as I say, you understand? Yes. -Then do it! You hear me? Yes. -Then doit.
Dynamic: follower/submissive (sub=under) vs author-rite = writter of laws, auto-self pathtake (psych=self-> path/rule/law) auto-graph -> signature -> self-consent. Auto=self (own path/his way/law) : a state of group controlled by one person (self) with absolute power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocracy ex: autonomous - having the freedom to govern itself or control its own affairs. having the freedom to act independently. (autonomou=self-control)
@David Parry is that what Jim Can't Swim means?
0 likes@EGstill85 i didn't mention him a sovereign citizen. this thread headed that way and it annoyed me. 2. what i am most interested in is what Jeff himself actually thinks and his perception of his place with regards to him knowing his own innocence or guilt. the gap between the legal process and what jeffster did or didn't do and thence how he sits with regards to his rights. rights he may not have held onto himself. it seems significant to me to be clear on everybody's level of corruption. we all being sovereign citizens. nobody even mentions that. and im astonished. irrespective of morality and all that 3. his junkieness and being vulnerable to manipulation? the policeman may not see that as inappropriate and at the end of the day he's the one we're paying and training to decide for us and jeff. and again let's not ignore how jeff too made choices long before this and surely we must have expectations of him also even if he's not on the payroll so to speak . isn't this kinda a basic part of the social contract? whether jeff would admit a gap in his behaviour and his expectations is up to him and the true silence we're all dancing around. when i'm Queen of the World i'd feel much happier listening to him mewl - if he chose to - about his junkie problems after all of this has been run through first. or has he brought a note from mama explaining why we hold the police guy to account but not jeff? then we can wheel out our compassion.
0 likesFrom watching so many police shows, I have seen the majority of criminals actually convict themselves when the police only have circumstantial evidence that would not hold up in court.
0 likes@Tiger I. F. R. Tiger What?? Since when Scoobie? You can literally say nothing and it would still count as a God given right. Our civil liberties are not things government allows us to have. They are a check on the government's power. What if he really didn't understand those rights? Does he give them up by remaining silent? No, of coarse not. The ONLY way he can lose those rights is if he talks. Although acknowledging his understanding of his rights he isn't giving them up in that instance either, actually remaining silent is not exactly the wrong thing to do. The fact is, he did ask for an attorney. Just because they reread him his rights everytime they came back into the room, his initial request for an attorney didn't go away just because they left the room. How many times did the detective say "why should I give you anything if you won't talk to me?" The fact is I would have said "I requested an attorney before I would speak to you. Since you have refused to provide one, why the fuck should I tell you anything simply because you felt like violating my civil rights?" The fact is, the first detective actually used the words "You have handcuffed me, I can't talk to you about it." Fucking pathetic. The fact is, he was smarter than all those cops put together. If they actually had the evidence they needed, why are they even bothering with the interrogation to begin with? Being released 12 hours later is a pretty good indication they didn't have what they needed. So, he was either being cut loose, or they were hoping he would do something stupid to get rearrested. Either way, they could have held him for 72 hours but didn't.
0 likes@Paul Colbourne No. Not even kinda sorta. He does not have to acknowledge his understanding of anything. And whether you do or not is immaterial. The fact is, the first cop stopped, but then another came in and reread him his rights and continued to ask him questions. They do not stop just because you say you aren't speaking until they get you an attorney. They didn't here and they didn't honor his request for an attorney either. It was at that time that he should have called their bluff. And that is what he did.
1 likeThey do not give 2 shits about right or wrong, truth or lies or even justice. So what makes you think that they give a damn about honoring your civil rights? They don't and they didn't here either. The reason? They were trying to coerce a confession out of him because they didn't have shit on him. If they did have the evidence they needed, then they would not have put their case in jeopardy by not honoring his request for an attorney. In other words, they had no case and he knew it.
Khajiit Hadwares this is inherently false. The word “understand” means “comprehend.” I can understand loads of things without conceding authority to them.
0 likes@Rogue Mentality that's not what the word means and that's not what's going on hahaha.
0 likesKeep sovcit nonsense to yourself. It's not real.
@Rogue Mentality then that makes sense because by responding to the question he admits to agreeing to talking and he doesn't want to talk so he wont respond if it means getting a lesser sentence
0 likeswhat happens if you say no i wonder, and just pretend you have no idea what they are saying
0 likesI know right, that was really frickin funny
0 likesRogue Mentality Lmao no
0 likes@Rogue Mentality That sounds dangerously close to SovCit bullshit...
0 likesYup, tells him to remain silent so he is...LOL
0 likes@Paul Colbourne So then if they REALLY need that confession, they bring in a Public Pretender, he has you answer to some trumped up questions, they still smoke your boots in court. Unless you have money, to keep an attorney of your choosing on retainer, you ARE going to lose 99.5% of the time in one way or the other. The system is rigged.
2 likesBatman type response 👌
1 likeWas waiting for the detective to say ''gonna take that as a yes''.
1 likeCop: surprised Pikachu face
1 likeim laughing too much I'm already crying.
1 likeA son born- Acts: 11-82 p.67890
0 likes4:25
0 likes(Key word here: I think/I believe. This is all my opinion and how I interpret the two concepts <3333)
I disagree. There are hundreds of villains that people love and can relate to, even if they are supposed to be pure evil.
I think the distinction comes from the characters morality and ideals, and how they behave to achieve their goals.
And antihero and villain could behave similarly, but the distinction can come form why they are behaving that way, or what they hope to achieve by behaving that way.
Good villains has understandable motives and a fan can empathize with.
I think the main distinction between an Antihero and Villain is the severity of their negative traits/behavior and how much it relates to their motive/goal.
For example: A Villain will want to save the earth and bring true peace though genocide and mass extinction of the human race, while an Antihero might want to save the earth through forcing their opinions into the world, even if it means eliminating those who cross them.
Man, he really called their bluffs like a boss.
319 likesOur society has failed people like this guy in the backwards way we handle drug addiction.
I'm so sorry that someone endured an armed robbery. And I'm sorry this guy's a junkie. But bravo, man. This shit was funny to watch.
257 likes"Yeah, you look like the prick..." That broke me. Lolol
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It's just funny to me how he doesn't give a shit about anything the guy says
3 likesI know right? This guy's nothing short of a legend. I'd only imagine how funny he'd be if he wasn't under pressure or going through heroin withdrawal
0 likes@C Z he's now clean from heroin and has a YouTube channel. He's pretty entertaining.
0 likesIt's funny how laughably easy it is to break their whole strategy by just telling them you know what's up. Like, they know what they're trying to do, and if you just indicate that you also know what they're trying to do, they can do jack shit. They'll ask these questions intended to make you immediately respond in defense, or say things like "we already have so much evidence." When you don't fall for their psychological tricks, the jig is up.
305 likesI also love how once the guy mentioned "I only came back up here for a coke," the cop gets angry, so he tries to take the coke after. Then when the guy says "I can't finish that?" he just says, without actually saying it, "really? you're gonna be petty enough to take the last 1/3rd of a can of coke?" and that just shatters the rest of the cop's attack.
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it's easier said than done tho, even if you understand, it is not reasonable that you end up badly because the police put a lot of pressure on you.
6 likesThe cop didn’t have to let him finish it. So your CoPs ArE DuMB anD BaD rant is pointless. People have a job to do and junkies have drugs to do cant have one without the other.
0 likesTheir are scientific reasons for Jeff's actions; The dopamine sugar rush from the coke, stops the craving for heroin, if only for a few seconds...
16 likes@Juh Quite the opposite actually. If you turn on a computer screen, it would appear nobody loves the police. I'm truly afraid of the world that people like you are passively wishing for.
0 likes@Zombie Boy What world am I passively wishing for, and how is what I said the opposite of what you said?
0 likes@Johnny ratio
0 likesGuys asks for a lawyer and yet 5 hours later, he’s still sitting in interrogation, being asked questions. This is how good cases go bad. This is why scumbags walk away free as a bird after doing bad shit. Shoddy police work.
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He was right they just want confession. Easier to get it from a junkie than actual suspect
6 likesI hope Jeff finds a good life to live. He's a smart guy.
53 likesthere's cicadas chirping outside my window so Jeff's silence is COMEDY GOLD right now.
50 likesNever trust the cops and never talk to them. The guy is actually pretty smart.
37 likesHe's a legend because he's doing what everyone should do which is shut up and not talk to the cops ever!
39 likestbh when he first explained what happened I immediately believed him, sometimes you can just tell when someone is telling the truth.
18 likesThis system is fucked. People like Jeff need help, not interrogations.
22 likesI wonder what he would have done with his life if he hadn’t gone down the wrong road? He seems like a clever dude.
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That road made me a better man
5 likesthis is one of my favorite interrogations. i love it so much, sometimes i watch it over and over again multiple times throughout the day. great work jcs! :)
4 likesI just barely discovered your channel and I’m hooked. You do an amazing job!
2 likesAs far as my understanding of Miranda v US and relevant cases, this is totally ILLEGAL.
9 likesHe asked for his lawyer, they had to stop right there, not wait a few hours and come back.
To make it worse, you know they were playing on the fact that he would be withdrawing, and hoped that it would exacerbate his willingness to comply
Totally illegal, unconstitutional.
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Realistically I doubt Jeff could afford a lawyer, so they'd have to appoint one. That can take a while and in the meantime they were promising him soda so he'd keep talking. If he agreed to the interview, even if its just because he wanted soda, then they can try multiple times.
2 likes@Meow Meow correct
0 likesThis was the best interview I've ever watched. Thank you
1 likethis explains the demise of my brother Jeff. Jeff finally overdosed in 2019, but like this Jeff, he was a regular on police blotters in multiple states.
1 likethe ultimate was in 2012 when he was arrested and underwent psychiatric care. the day after a psychiatrist told me he would be treated, he was released. the $100 i deposited at the jail for food and a blanket was given to Jeff. Jeff went and bought a bottle of Rum and drank himself unconscious.
9 years later and a dozen arrests in MD and Florida and my Brother is dead.
our system of justice lets criminals go and addicts simply fill up the arrest blotter to keep people busy.
I do love these videos. This one is a bit different for me, because I was actually addicted to heroin for 6 years also, and I've also been arrested for something I haven't done
0 likesThis dude has the same presentation as audit the audit, both of which I love. Thanks for the awesome content.
0 likesHe s doing everything right. It makes my day. :D
0 likesjeff saying that if they had anything they wouldnt be in that room is very very true. They may have some evidence but do not have enough evidence to ensure it is a 100% guilty charge. Jeff is smart.
2 likesYou know what you do with drug addicts? You get them help, not lock them away. One results in high chance of positive outcome, while the other perpetuates the 'revolving door' analogy.
1 likeThe good old criminal justice system, always targeting the poor and marginalized. Jeff got it down.
0 likesIm a recovering addict and my psyche and heart ache for this guy. It,s hell!
0 likesThe “all while going through the early stages of heroin withdrawal” I feel is such a bigger factor than lead on. It would be so hard to keep composure in those days.
1 likeCop:" I'm usually a prick."
10 likesJeff: "You look like a prick."
Me: 😂
I like Jeff. Mostly because i just watched a video of cops trying to make innocent people confess.
1 likeThis whole interview is hilarious 😂😂😂😂
2 likesI like how at the end you gave us a fairytale and the potential truth. Thank you for that. Without looking too much further into this, I'm going to take the narrative that he got clean.
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0 likeswatching jeff makes me happy
1 like"anything can and will be used against you in court"
5 likesjeff: oh sh-
Jeff is the smartest suspect in all of the JCS videos.
0 likesI can never get bored of this 😂😂😂
0 likesBefore u even explained it i already felt sympathy when u said hes a heroin addict bc i am one aswell and i get why they rob and steal because the fear of withdrawal is so immense its unbearable. But i never did any of that so theres also a way without beeing a criminal but i know how easy it can happen to you.
0 likesJeff is indeed, a legend
0 likesThe saddest part of your commentary… the addiction itself should shed light on his humanity.
0 likesEvery drug addict you ever met is struggling, and I bet you everything I own they never said when they were a little boy or little girl - “when I grow up I want to be hooked on drugs or alcohol”…
Every fucking one of them is struggling, and nobody asked to be that way… they’re all sick and need help wether they know it or not. And in the big picture - they’re sick- period
How did they keep questioning him after he ask3d for a lawyer? Anything he said after the request would be inadmissable right?
0 likesMy head started yo hurt when he said he was about to start getting withdrawals. Withdrawals are no joke.
0 likesGenuinely funny character! He even sounds like Billy Bob Thornton.
0 likesCops can be real jerks or OK. One thing I know, if you've got a weapon in your hand, they think twice.
0 likesIt might sound cheesy but I think we are all heading for either salvation or destruction!
1 like11:15 if people just knew the info in the next 10 or so seconds. Absolutely true.
0 likesJeff: anything I say can and will be used against me
7 likesDetective: yeah but anything you say..I can tell..your parole officer .that..you helped me out.
Jeff: that don't mean d*ck
LMAOOOOO
8:33 from that moment on, the cop is in the wrong.
1 like" I want a lawyer " .....5 hours later he is still in that cell without a lawyer?
0 likes“When is this Coke gonna be here? Or is that just a fairy tale…?” 😂🤣
2 likesofficer: do u understand the rights I've explained to you?
0 likesJeff: quietly no
officer: what?
Jeff: yeah
the “thanks for the coke” really did hit me hard
0 likesDude was running through interigators. They probably called in some off duty cops
0 likesJeff is smart .. He been through the system.
0 likesHe was willing to give him a butterfinger only for a confession.... wow.
0 likes"You're playing the good cop"
0 likes"No, usually I'm the Prick."
"You look like a Prick".
GOLDEN
Also I LOVE Bad Santa!!! Such a good movie.
"You already read it to me (I'm gonna read it again), thanks for the coke (ur welcome)"......love this cat!
0 likes"I know you ain't got shit, you ain't never interviewed me this much" smart man.
1 like"Only reason I came up here was to get a f*cking coke"
0 likesWhat a savage
How many times does he have to ask for a lawyer?
0 likesThe most cunning and calculated people I ever met to this day were junkies.
0 likesHe asked for a lawyer and they still try questioning him ....
0 likesdrug addict for FOURTEEN YEARS and smarter than the cops 😂
0 likes"you look like a prick"
2 likesI died.
Do not talk to police, as soon as they put cuffs on you, their job is done!
0 likes"But now you've handcuffed me and..." 8:58
0 likesThat choice of words though...
Jeff must have watched a lot of the JCS videos.😂
0 likes"I'm done man, fuck this"........LEGEND
0 likesIt's like watching the real-life Early Kyler, geez.
0 likes"How about that butterfinger you promised?" <3
1 likeJeff knows they are not his friend in this situation, he is beautiful.
4 likes"cause my buddies dogs goin' ape sh*t" funniest part
0 likeszuckerberg is a cop now? i swear the guy sitting bottom right frame is zuckerberg
2 likesjeff knew his shit.
Kinda weird how this interrogation is just 15 minutes of this guy saying “my name is jeff”
0 likesI hope he goes clean and would have a good life.
0 likes“ the only reason I came here to get a coke”
2 likesThis could very well be a advertisement for coke. “Coke, great alternative for coke”
0 likes"Where do you get your methadone?"
0 likes"I don't get it, I get heroin."
Lmfao. Jeff you are a legend
0 likesInterview should end the minute he asked for a lawyer
0 likesThe legend of jeff?
0 likes...all jeffs are legends in and of themselves
Why the cops get somewhat irritated when Jeff goes silent? I mean, they said he had the right to remain silent?😂
0 likesJeff: Your Reid Technique skills have no power over me.
0 likes"that taste good?" " Mmhmmm". shows him how good by chugging two more times
1 likeI love this guy
0 likesJeff's pretty smart!
0 likes"Whaam baam, thank you for the coke put me back in the cell"😂😂😂
0 likeswas a heroin addict for 5 years - all i know is this man is about to start kickinggggg, I can tell lol and hes just likeeee come on man, if u dont let me out of here for what i did not do im about to be sick as a dog and I can tell by his voice that he is still zooted
1 likeWhatever he did or not i feel very sorry for him..it could be right to help him first as his mind is in fog..so many ppl are involved in such shit..and they are so weak ..i wish more ppl can understand what a treak is it and how hard to get out of it..he might have different life..but again his mind is blind..
0 likesMy favorite part is "I've been arrested for the same bullshit before."
30 likesAnd "...or is that just a fairy tale."
I also think these cops get a little high off of arresting someone like jeff.
Where’s his lawyer? He asked hours ago.
1 likeMost important thing. Remaining silent. Most people are uncomfortable with silence, but if ever anyone gets arrested, even if you know you are completely innocent... remain quiet. Do not try and "be helpful". Don't give in to that need to fill up an silent pause, no matter how long it stretches. Police think the worst of anyone in custody (they've seen the worst, so even good cops are like this and it's understandable). If "anything you say can and will be used against you", your best tactic is... Say. Nothing. Ever.
0 likes2 months after:
0 likesthis guy got his face burnt with bleach and suddenly his skin turned white and he went crazy and then burns his eyelids and gashes his cheeks to make a smile, that's why he his name is jeff 😂
"No."
1 like"Huh?"
"Yeah"
😂
And we wonder why no one trusts cops
1 likeWhat a fucking legend
0 likesI'm so sorry but i like him i laughed so much watching this lmaoo he works for coca cold HAHAHAHA
0 likesI'm disappointed in the narration of this one. The focus on his drug addiction and the strange anti hero tangent was far less interesting and relevant than an analysis of the interrogation from both sides of the table. Missed opportunity to explore a failed interview and the effect on both Jeff and the officers.
0 likes"that doesn't...mean dick"...im crying lmao
0 likesI come back every now and again hoping to see Jeff in the comment section
0 likesCop: Usually I'm the pr!ck
0 likesJeff: yeah, you look like a pr!ck.
LMAO! GOLD
“Wham bam thank you for the coke” lmao
0 likesI’m feeling jeff🤷♀️
0 likesY’all don’t even know if he did or didn’t commit it, what if the cop did have evidence
0 likesOh he comprehends just fine 🤣
0 likesI've watched this video like 4 times lol
0 likesAs a former heroin addict its always sad to see someone facing huge prison time for something they only probably did to get well. Im sure as a sober man, Jeff would never rob a store. This is why we need to rehabilite addicts, not punish them.
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Armed robbery isn’t no big deal though. If he actually did that, and therefore put people at risk all for a high, he’d 110% deserve punishment.
0 likes@PianoDisneygal10 im not saying he doesnt deserve punishment but there is a difference between rehabilitation and throwing someone in prison for 20 years
0 likesI can only imagine what Jeff's teeth look like between the heroin and Coca-Cola addiction.
0 likesLove it.
0 likesThere's legend of Korra...
0 likesAnd then there's the legend of Jeff
Free Jeff ❤️🔥
2 likesJeff is a real one G street he may have a drug addiction but he knows his shit 🍺✊😎 where is the coca cola emoji 😅
0 likesThis analysis is so far wide of the mark that it's silly. What are you talking about "glimmer of humanity" the man demonstrated more humanity than any other person in the footage.
0 likes" i want a lawyer" mannnnnnn he said it, so get him one. 1312
1 like"You look like the prick." Lol
0 likesJeff is a badass give this guy a fuckin award lmfao
0 likesDrug addicts aren't dumb they're sick it's completely different
0 likesThis entire interview should’ve be the next Coke campaign.
0 likesI would obviously like him to get of the heroine! Other than that i really like this guy!!!
0 likesGreat guy
0 likesJeff is my favorite
0 likeshear me out: i just wanna see christian bale act this scene out okay, itll be gold i swear
0 likesJeff is a savage...
1 likeYou want a lawyer? How dare you.
0 likesBilly bob thorton gotta play this guy in the movie version of jeff.
0 likes6'5??? bro could've played basketball instead of being an addict smh
0 likeswam bam, thanks for the coke, put me back in the cell 😂
0 likesToo much Joseph Campbell, and too little understanding. The antihero is a good guy who uses the tactics of the bad guys usually against the even badder guys. That's it. There's no moral change, no redemption.
0 likesWhere do you get your methadone from?
0 likesI don't...I get heroin.
🤣😆
Like duh man, did you expect me to ask you THE COP for heroin?
he was just there bcoz he knew he will get free coke lol
0 likesjeff is based af. smart dude
0 likesThe new bad Santa 🎅
0 likes18 hours of withdrawal in a cell... Christ...poor guy
0 likesBy far the weirdest Coke-a-Cola ad I have ever seen.
0 likesThis guy got a spine, at least..
0 likes"wham bam thank you for the coke"
0 likesWham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell🤣
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Saying this if I'm ever arrested.
0 likesjeff the G.O.A.T
0 likesLife in prison for Armed robbery ? I’m not trying to say I support robbery lol but doesn’t that seem a bit much ? Provided they don’t actually hurt anyone in the robbery
0 likesJeff, sponsored by Coca-Cola.
0 likesBe like Jeff....except don't do drugs.
1 likeMan when Jeff said
757 likes" you look like a prick " I bet it was hard for the officers in the back NOT to piss themselves laughing. It was a nice, timely shot he took there.......ha
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@Aragon Farseer You're another "legend"
4 likesSublime, bit of a double entendre, there. Jeff and Brad would have tied on a dinosaur together, I'm sure. RIP B. Nowell
0 likesThat was funny
0 likesthey programmed me to think of coke when i see santa
1 like"The only reason i got up here was to get an f'ing coke" this made me laugh so hard. I hope this dude is doing alright right now
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Sadly he died
4 likes@NINETEEN really? ://
1 like@NINETEEN holdup what? you got a reliable source or just saw some headline
5 likes@NINETEEN I don't wanna believe you please tell me its a joke ;^;
3 likes@NINETEEN wasn’t it overdose?
1 like@I’m Irresponsible He uploaded to his youtube one day ago.
1 like@hoaxer he lived a good 50 years
2 likes@NINETEEN answers please, how do you know
0 likes@A A Bro it's a joke. The man went to rehab and now has a youtube channel he uploaded a vid saying that he is fine..
14 likes@NINETEEN whats his channel
0 likes@Chris Gj Syrynge music?
0 likes@NINETEEN channel name?
0 likeshttps://youtu.be/m0srs6NKm-s
0 likesHere's an update on Jeff and this exact interview incase anyone is interested wondering
This is why good defense attorneys are so important. I feel like they always get such a bad rap for having to defend the guilty, but people forget that they defend the innocent a lot of times too.
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"(...)but people forge that they defend the innocent a lot of times too." And that, precisely, is why the right to one is so important. I often hear people complain about defence attorneys in a manner that seems to equate being accused and being guilty way too often
25 likesSo true
0 likesWell that baby killer monster of a woman had an excellent defense attorney and she got off not guilty on all charges.
0 likes"Do you understand the rights I have explained to you?"
3566 likes"No!"
"Huh?
"Yeah-"
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In an odd way I understand that.... At first he initially was like "wait, no! Fuck this!" Then just as quickly his mind went to "ah fuck it...yeah, whatever."
170 likesThat part killed me
14 likes@Jack Kawf don’t think so. He’s purposely giving false answers to be able to fight it in court. In no way is he agreeing or disagreeing to anything. I’ve done this exact thing when being interrogated by cops. If you give the multiple mixed answers it always gives you an out and then they can’t use it so reliably in court against you. I can easily say no then they say huh? Then I say yea as in, what? And not in yea I understand.
14 likes@Brannan Burdette it was more or less a joke
6 likes@Jack Kawf nah he was just fucking with the cop lol. He's got a good sense of humor
3 likes@SpadeOfAces man.... I love that scene in Daredevil
1 like8:21
0 likesNya.
0 likesyou know they specifically kept him there as long as possible hoping that his withdrawals will become unbearable and, due to irritability and discomfort, lead him to say something that they can use for their case...apparently thats considered to be justice.
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Well this is America
13 likesSad but true
1 likeOf course Jeff knows that if he craps on the floor they'll take him out
3 likesof there. He's been through it a hundred times before
ACAB
2 likes@gank all cops are beautiful :)
1 like1 2 bastards* but sure
3 likes@Mirror16 not just america thats torture 101 everyone whose jobe is tro extract info will have to do something to ~get~ info, threats, weaknesses, physical assault anyghing goes as long as the extractor gets the info
1 likeLiterally torture
0 likes@cabadman1 I don't understand why people can't want their own country to be better when there are problems. What's wrong with admitting we're far from perfect?
2 likesOfficer: You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand?
403 likesJeff: ........silent......
Me: yep, I'm pretty sure he understands.
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Penny Lane lol
3 likesPretty sure you know this and were just joking, but just in case you weren't, they need a definite yes otherwise lawyers will come up with whatever excuse to invalidate anything they say in the interrogation and could get away with it.
4 likesDoublechindoge 7 that’s my exact thought. I was thinking this Jeff guy is very smart.
2 likes@WOOSH_POLICE your name concerns me...
1 likebut yeah, he knows how it works, and taunts the police while giving them nothing; trying to trick them into doing something drastic so he can claim he was mistreated by the police when it comes to court.
For a cop he sure was not too smart on that one 😂.
0 likesOfficer:" There's only a couple of pieces of evidence I'm missing."
770 likesJeff: 'Name them"
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Jeff be like "name every single piece of evidence"
56 likes@Viviv "Oh yeah, you're a cop? Name every piece of evidence"
82 likesCorrect me if im wrong but isnt it illegal to try to keep getting someone to talk AFTER they asked for a lawyer?
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Not when they initiate it by agreeing to talk for a coke and a butterfinger 😁
0 likesStone cold is the greatest anti hero ever
0 likesI love how the detective says "convince me" - I don't have to convince you of anything, you are not the judge nor my jury of peers. I will not provide speak until my lawyer is present. Thank you for the coke
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The best response when talking to a cop is only 7 words, “ I want to talk to my lawyer”
20 likesthis is like the intellectual translation of "Wham Bam, thank you for the Coke, put me back in the cell"
27 likesjackoscar11 😂
0 likesAnd some people get tried, convicted, and sentenced to death on the sidewalk.
4 likes@Anthony G It doesn't matter, he's still an American citizen who's due his rights, and he chose to exercise them, and he did so damn-near flawlessly (seeing as he was released shortly after)
13 likesIf you're an American citizen, you could be in Jeff's position one day whether you committed the crime or not, and you'll be happy you have those same rights.
Jeff is 100% right when he said the cops aren't your friends, they're there to pin a crime on someone. There's a reason the words "Anything you say, CAN AND WILL, be used AGAINST YOU" in your rights, because it's true.
Jeff knew this, Jeff used this to his advantage, and to his eventual freedom.
Jeff is awesome.
So many big men talking. At the end of the day, though, those legs will be trembling hoping to catch a break. This is a legit hardened criminal. Stop pretending.
0 likes@XxDonLoboxX Maybe if the State would help him with his addiction he could straighten his life up, but alas they would prefer him and many others to rot in a cell than help them with their drug addiction.
0 likes@XxDonLoboxX catch a break on something you haven't actually done... while you're already in the interrogation room? How does that work chief?
1 likeBEST interview yet, that damn junkie understood his rights better than a majority of Americans, funny how that works!!
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Missouri Bear that’s right I no many junky sexworkers that are now practise law
4 likesP1M9daddyStick 12 exactly when u live with screws inside for months or years u learn the drill
4 likesWhats funny? Junky doesnt mean low I.Q.
19 likesactive addiction after a decade on the gear learn a lot going in & out , with loads of priors
1 likeWhat I like about Jeff. Instead of arguing and telling everyone about his rights, he simply shuts up!
2 likesBuddies been in the situation before
1 likeWell he's been through it multiple times, I'd be worried if he didn't know his rights.
0 likesThe only person that took "you have the right to remain silent" seriously
386 likesJeff has a more realistic understanding of the justice system in America than most Americans.
89 likesWhat’s going on with his feet? Like does heroin make your toes fall off?
0 likesGuide to talking to the police:
1688 likes1) Do not
that's it. there are no more points.
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They definitely don't make it easy for you
40 likesGuilty untill found innocent
45 likesYeah. Sounds easy enough.
63 likesHowever. They basically are allowed to torture you for hours on end psychologically.
You are scared. Nervous. Depressed. Angry.
But yes.
Never talk to the police.
The police knows this very well.
It can only lead to bad things when you are in this situation.
They are experts at getting things out of you.
Even if you are telling the truth and what you are saying wasn't incriminating.
They might have a witness who remember things wrongly and you admission to something non-incriminating and truthful might set you in a bad way.
You can't even use the words you have said for your own benefit.
It will be rejected as hearsay while the cops and prosecutors can use whatever they heard you say.
Because it comes from observations on what the defendant said in their presence.
Don't speak to the police at all. If they arrest you they aren't being nice to get the story straight. They are trying to cover every angle so you are good and fucked. Even if you did nothing and they got the wrong guy. SAY NOTHING. your fight is in court.
39 likesthat is the worst advice I've ever heard are u high
1 like@Adam C How "brave" you are there keyboardwarrior...
11 likes@Adam C You where self-aggrandizing and calling people weak.
11 likesI wager you have not been in any simular pressed situation. The alternative is you are a hard core criminal.
Those are basically the only ones who can keep quiet for hours and hours on end.
They will also use any method to trick you. If you watched the lecture I linked to you would understand that for a normal person you have very small chances of keeping completely silent.
Remember. You haven't slept. You are hungry. You have intimidating people around you. Both others in jail and your captors.
You don't have control over the lighting. The noises. They put you in a room designed to break you. Making it small. The position of your chair and what you can see is designed to maximize they efforts.
Just waving it all away is like saying those who got put in blackhouses for terrorism suspicion could just relax and enjoy the hardcore metal, constant light, sleep deprivation, intimidation, hunger, thirst, even peeing and having a shit.
You can destroy any man through enough mental pressure. It is just a matter of how long someone will last. Now. The cops are probably not that bad but the kind of pressure they can put on you and the state they can control you in is there.
Stop your grandstanding and pounding of your chest. This isn't pretend to be tough with the mates. I'm talking about reality.
I'll add that physical torture is just way to get to your mind.
0 likesyeah innocent or guilty. except when they ask you "Do you understand" when trying to fine you and if refuse to speak they threaten to throw you in lock up for being drunk and disorderly with only 4 standard drinks under your belt.
1 like@Adam C Right.... keyboard-"lawyer".
6 likesIn my country it can actually help you .. Talk to the police, give reasonings, if they are empathetic to your situation and why you commited a crime, it can heavily reduce your sentence
4 likesUntil your lawyer is there*
0 likes@Adam C honestly cops will lie, they'll say you know you could go to jail if you don't tell me how fast you were going when in reality thats not true, I dont think its bad advice to say not to talk to cops, there's crooked cops even now and unless you know him personally you probably shouldn't talk, like they'll act like your friend and then put in jail for life like idk where you grew up.
4 likesHah I was like number 666
1 likejimbo jak actually it’s good advice
1 likeAdam C well arnt your just the badass.... they are no doubt not really professional but in this business in their line of work someone incompetent is just as dangerous if not more dangerous than an extremely competent one they both can easily send it to the slammer and give you hell. So saying nothing to Cops in either situation is great advice. Oh and what a Cop being overweight have to do with anything? “I aight scared of no fat detective” shit we did think you were. Ah Lol you are funny.
1 likeSo true
0 likes2.) learn English
0 likesCop : "You have the right to remain silent."
601 likesJEFF : "I'm not talking to the police."
Cop : "You have the right to an attorney."
JEFF : "I want to talk to a lawyer."
Then proceeds 7 hours of questioning with NO legal counsel provided ......
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the sooner you get an attorney, the more incriminating evidence they have.
7 likes@carlos bond me either, I was drunk when I typed it, sorry... But I ain't no bish, I'll let it stand :)
21 likesHe left for two hours shortly after saying that. He probably had contact with a defense counsel. Jeff went back for the last interview in his own words to score another coke.
28 likesNeither Jeff, nor the cops mentioned anything about any of them speaking to an attorney. It's very possible that Jeff just played them to score another coke, but a 50 cent coke isn't worth risking a verbal slip-up that might cost you the next 10 years of your life !
10 likes@marby602 Its a give and tell, he was in heroin redrawals, and they knew that. the bastids.
9 likes@SightForMemories I think you're right, and I hope on behalf of our constitution that they failed.
4 likes@marby602 When you're in heroin withdrawal and can't get any opiates, then carbonated sugar water straight into your bloodstream is worth 10 years, because it's the next best thing. Consider that next time you see an overweight person and wonder why they can't stop eating boxes of cookies.
6 likes@Fata Morgana You can invent any bullshit you wish to try and legitimize a stupid lifestyle choice, and the subsequent CHOICES made in connection with them...... but don't for one second think anyone actually believes that a can of coke is worth 10 years of freedom !! Regardless of the person's lack of willpower !!
0 likesAnd they CAN stop eating if they choose to.
@lilyteeth I'm intelligent enough NOT to drive down that pointless dead-end-street of life to begin with !! Just like I don't need to choose to jump into a pile of cactus to know it's going to hurt like hell.
0 likesPoint being : Someone who chooses to needlessly put themselves through a tough time, DOESN'T deserve props for getting out of something they should have been smart enough to avoid in the first place !
@marby602 You act like you are superior to addicts because what? Because you got a job at your daddy's insurance firm that someone that has even barely passed highschool could do better than you? Because you don't have a hard enough life for you to have to consider abusing substances to turn the sadness down? Imagine feeling superior because you don't have to struggle in life, oh wait, you already do that.
12 likes@carl "Superior" wouldn't be the term I would use, but individuals like me clearly have more common-sense & better decision making skills.
1 likeAs far as the irrelevant & hypothetical "insurance firm" you've conjured up...... machinist don't work at insurance companies. Wrong again.
I've had plenty of life's hard times, and as previously mentioned, I don't choose dead-end paths and think that's a remedy.
@marby602 sure
4 likes@(o'.')=o(#','@) I understand that it is a sad situation for people, and I have helped someone help themselves in a couple of cases.
1 likeIf the term "common-sense" works better for you than intelligence, fine, but either way I'm sure you get the point. And "men of god" hardly qualify as people possessing common-sense !! LOL..... bad example bro !! I never said I was above them in the manner you insinuate, but I clearly make better life decision than them. No slipping when your on solid steady ground.
@marby602 "no slipping up when you're* on solid steady ground" couldn't be a more incorrect statement.
4 likes@Demarcus Irick ...... maybe I should have added the caveat : "unless your in the Twilight Zone". Because that's the only place it would be incorrect.
1 like@marby602 addiction is genetic. It runs in families. You really think the junkies living out on the street are happy with the lives they lead and choose to live the way they do? It has absolutely NOTHING to do with common sense, intelligence or making better life decisions. Its all luck and you just happen to get lucky and not have the disease or a family of addicts. Jeff here was not so lucky.
6 likes@Isqueakif yousqueeze sorry to correct you but if I m not wrong than addiction is only partially genetic, there are a lot more factors and people with no addiction in their families can also easily get addicted to sustances.
2 likes@Isqueakif yousqueeze Oh... there you go... yet another excuse for certain people to use in order to avoid their own responsibilities to themselves for their decisions. That shit only makes this problem worse !
1 likeI never said they're happy with the lives they lead. Emphasis on THEY LEAD. because it is they who are in control of their choices, and when they go through a treatment program, they make the choices to better their lives for themselves ! The successful treatments are the ones undertaken by those who understand their mistakes... learn from them... and choose to better themselves. When someone gets treatment because the court ORDERS them to, or to avoid jail, those don't usually work because it's not the individuals choice.
It's got EVERYTHING to do with common-sense & individual choice, and that "Luck of the dice" crap is just a cop-out designed to remove responsibility from where it belongs !!
@marby602 btw, how is your relationship with coffee/tea?
1 like@carl btw..... I don't drink coffee, but I occasionally like green tea. What's your point ?
0 likes@(o'.')=o(#','@) I don't have any "bubble" to burst or remain inflated. And the "guy sitting across from me" are merely co-workers at work, and NONE of us are substance abusers.
0 likesHere's a little wakeup call for you..... MOST people in life DON'T make the horribly bad choice to abuse chemical substances !
@carl There is no second coming, or first. Simply making a common-sense decision to not abuse a chemical substance , and ruin a good portion of your life DOESN'T take perfection. Quite the opposite..... people do it regularly, and they do it every day of the week !
0 likes@Chris Akans I hope I never get sick either, but I was clearly referring to the people who choose to take an addictive substance WITHOUT a legitimate need.
0 likesBut IF that were to take place, I already know the pitfalls of those substances, and would most likely avoid them. NOT because of "superiority" but simply through understanding of their nature !
@marby602 how ocasionally are we tallking the tea? Every week? Every month?
0 likes@marby602 and addiction is addiction. Hell, you could get addicted to pepsi and it would still be really fucking bad.
1 like@carl At lunch time. 2 days a week, sometimes 3 days. (8 ounce cup)
0 likes@Rudimental Yeah I know...... people with common-sense, kindness towards others, conscious of their health, non-superstitious, hard working, and good parents..... you're so right..... what losers ! LMAO
1 like@marby602 could you just one day give up green tea?
0 likesSightForMemories in what universe
0 likes@carl Absolutely, especially if I found out that there was something about tea that has severe health consequences. Couple weeks ago, work ran out and just had water & lemonade for 6 days..... nobody flipped out.
0 likes@marby602 mhm, now tell me. What other substances do you consume that contains the psychoactive drug called caffine? And could you quit sugar? I have heard it is just as addictive as cocaine. Actually, why don't you try it? Try going without sugar or caffine for let's say a month, let's see how superior you really are.
0 likes@marby602 And the negative health effects of caffine can be rather undesireable. The list is not that big but is not too nice including higher blood pressure, faster heart rate, sleep distruption, anxiety, increased urin output (all of which developes with chronic use). The withdrawal is pretty bad too, may I even say worse than what effects it has while you are constantly doped up on it. The list of withdrawal symptoms include sleepiness, headache, increased irritability, drowsiness, ect. Now about sugar, sugar has tons of negatives tied to it. The list is pretty long but I will try to write it down for you: Faster aging of the skin, joint pain, heart disease, heightened risk of diabetes, obesity, jittery movement, kidney damage, NAFLD (non-alcoholic fatty liver disease), NASH (non-alcoholic steatohepatitis), make it harder for you to get your willy up and many more. Now you have reason to quit both of them (also, sugar gives your brain high doses of dopamine wich makes it harder to quit). No need to thank me! :)
0 likes@carl LOL...... what's with this "superior" malarkey ? I never made any such statement. So now I'm supposed to take a tangent from my life that is (and has been) working out just fine, and start consuming something to the point of addiction, so I can then kick this self induced dependency..... and all that for the purpose of proving to YOU that I can do it.
0 likesIF I was that stupid, I'd already be a heroin user !! LOL !! As I've stated earlier : "I don't need to stick my hand on a hot stove to know it's going to hurt like hell". What I do is not touch the stove burner in the first place, and there's nothing "superior" about making such a decision.
@carl I don't think two 8 fluid oz cups of green tea per week, qualifies as "chronic use" !
0 likesI like cookies
2 likesWe all do @Boom Stick4287, we all do.
1 like@marby602 that's what an addict would say
0 likes@marby602 and you are now using the "So you are saying" tactic to win this argument. I just told you to try quitting sugar and caffine, not start doing heroin
0 likes@marby602 sorry but u're not being kind lmao and u know noone that's going through an addiction, do u? Humans can get addicted to anything. How many hours a day u use ur phone? Can u throw it out the window and not buy another for a month? U're human nonetheless, u're not immune to addiction. Be proud that u have the power to make decisions right now, but never underestimate the power of problems and how they affect people.
1 like@xArzneimittel What's "not kind", pointing out the truth?
0 likesI don't currently know anyone choosing to take drugs to the point of addition, but I did help 2 in the past.
And NO, you can't get addicted to "anything", so stop trying to insinuate that anyone can become a JEFF and we have no say & no self determination in our lives, because that is total horse shit !!
@carl And IF I was consuming excessive levels of caffeine or sugar.... IF I had blood pressure issues..... IF I was a fat-ass..... then I would take you up on your challenge to quit what's hurting me. But NONE of those things are true, so why completely cut out green tea, when all I have is 2 small cups every 7 days ? It makes no sense !
0 likes@marby602 that's what an addict would say
0 likes@marby602 I am sorry I overestimated you. Clearly you are not up for the challange and don't have the willpower to quit such miniscule things such as sugar and green tea.
0 likes@carl Quit the tea for WHAT reason ? You might as well say "To much oxygen can be harmful, and you should quit breathing air for a while, even though you aren't actually over breathing, just quit anyway"...... That's utter non-sense ! A person only needs to quit something that is a clear detriment to them.
0 likesThere would be no willpower required to give up 2 small cups of tea per week. That is an insignificant level of intake.
@marby602 and yet you are not able to even try quitting that miniscule 2 cups a week
0 likes@marby602 and your hypothetical oxygen argument is invalid because unlike oxygen, you don't need caffine.
0 likes@marby602 too*
0 likesSightForMemories yep. Jeff was smart enough to know that if they had evidence they wouldn’t be pulling him out of his cell every hour begging him to talk.
1 likemarby602 in jail a coke is worth way more than that tho. Especially when withdrawing for heroin. You’d fuck with the cops and watch them beg you to talk for hours just to get some mild reprieve from laying there feeling like hell
0 likesmarby602 you don’t understand human psychology in the slightest. You sound like the type to demonize marijuana yet is totally cool getting drunk at a bar.
0 likesmarby602 also poly addicts exist. Addiction is in the brain and the mindset. You can’t get addicted to video games but you can get addicted to the feeling of playing video games. Marijuana is not physically addictive but you can get addicted to the overall feeling of being high so you smoke all the time.
0 likes@carl The point of the argument is valid.... which is WHY stop consuming a beverage which has beneficial antioxidant properties that far outweigh the small amount of caffeine in the drink ? There is NO good reason to do that, therefore I won't.
0 likesNext you'll be saying to stop eating apples because the seeds contain minuscule amounts of arsenic..... stop drinking my fresh grapefruit juice because of its acidity.... stop drinking an occasional glass of wine because other people can't handle their liquor..... NONE of which makes any sense ! Nor do you !
@marby602 you are the reason why people don't seek help
0 likes@Annoyed Viewer I never said it had anything to do with someone's intelligence quotient. There are plenty of book-smart people, highly educated people, who don't poses a lick of COMMON-SENSE !!
0 likesIt's the people with good common-sense that know to steer clear of a destructive & highly additive substance use for "recreation".
@carl I am the reason? That's interesting. I realize you have a tendency to shift the blame on secondary parties, but HOW exactly am I to blame for someone else not getting treatment ?
0 likesAs stated earlier, I have helped 2 friends help themselves with this type problem. THEY did the hard part, and I made it easier for them to focus on their goals. Since they were doing it for the right reason, they succeeded.
@marby602 Do you have supportive parents, a network of friends? High income, a happy family?
0 likes@SightForMemories he probably does
0 likes@SightForMemories When I decide to post up all my personal information on YouTube, you will be the first to know.
0 likesThe possession of those things, or the lack of them, still doesn't change the Fact that causing yourself greater suffering in life will only make things worse. Therefore it's clearly a bad choice to make !
@marby602 but marby602 if you already know all the answers, then why try?
0 likes@SightForMemories "then why try"?.... why try what ?
0 likesI don't know ALL the answers. If I did, I would have won the lottery already. I do understand the common-sense things in life very well, and that's enough to steer clear of "H".
Jeff gives of a Nate Diaz vibe
0 likes“I have enough evidence of armed robbery”
2761 likes“Like what”
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@Van peter Point is Peter, they really don't have anything on this guy. Their solution doesn't benefit anyone and only cost more taxpayer money. Basically this method of policing is wasteful, utter bullshit and predatory. Being a heroin addict, he needs a program of rehabilitation and life skills training, not some police officer trying to fuck his life up so he can get a bonus. The second interviewer literally tries to trick him into signing the confession right off the bat by saying its his Miranda rights.
152 likesCops are lying every single second. "We have evidence" is the biggest one. They obviously don't. "We have a witness that saw you do this" no, they don't. "Your friend already confessed and said it was your idea" no, they didn't. The best thing you could do is say as little as possible and believe nothing they tell you.
79 likes@Jack Black yea they do that cause somtimes it works and the person just give up and tell them everything
10 likes"Like what?"
10 likes"Ahhuhh bdjja uhhhhhhh well I uhhh"
CCTV surveillance footage? Fingerprints on guns he used? Eye witnesses? Information from his neighbours or family? Reports to police from his victims? LOL
5 likes@LYNX haha not like that, like their part of the story
0 likes1000th like my guy
0 likesThousandth like m8
0 likes@Jack Black TRUTH
0 likes@LYNX there was nothing in the story about surveillance footage, or fingerprints, or eye witnesses, or police reports, he was at his friends house and came outside when he heard police.
1 likeLOL he says after bringing him in multiple times in the man is asking for a lawyer every time, anyways he says I have enough evidence of your armed robbery and he doesn't even say it with any conviction LOL he's not even a good liar LOL trying to tell the man he has evidence when obviously he has squat. I don't know what happens with this case but I'm about to finish watching it and I'm hoping he gets let go. Addiction is nothing funny and he needs to be offered a long term treatment center. He actually seems like you would be a very nice if not in active addiction. Obviously he said thank you for the Coke and he did not have to do that!!!
0 likesDavid Dean cops don’t get bonuses. 😂😂😂
0 likes@Jack Black most people don't know that cops can lie to you to get you to incriminate yourself.
0 likes@Cmobley_ 7231 Makes me think of this one time in kindergarten when I was 5. I had undiagnosed ADHD and autism spectrum disorder, so I did a lot of impulsive things back then. One very notable one was the day I wanted to recreate a scene from the live-action Scooby-Doo movie where Daphnie stole Velma's glasses and she shook Fred saying "I'm gonna kill you Daphnie!" I, a dumbass 5-year-old, did not inform any of the other people I involved in the spontaneous skit, and the poor kid I shook told the teacher. Later I was sent to the principal and for some reason, I recall the lady with a notecard and continuously asking if I had said "I'm going to kill you with a knife". Thankfully, I'm one of those people who is very adamant that everyone knows the facts and truth of a situation if I can help it, even though sometimes it leads to me taking a joke too seriously or causing awkward situations because I need to work on keeping my mouth shut. The principal didn't seem like the best person for the job considering some stories my mom (who was working there at the time) told me.
0 likesThis guy is a legend, he is invincible. Give him the damn butter finger
485 likesThe first time one of these guys was smart and didn't talk to the police. Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't, but some heroin junkie in Georgia is smarter than everybody else who gets interrogated in these videos and that's why I root for him.
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He literally did talk though, he talked plenty.
5 likesWhat bout Steven (Other than the FD)
1 like@Ezio Augustus talking is one thing..giving details is another.
84 likesMicheal was smart too
2 likesIM SAYING most criminals are so dumb and don’t think to get a lawyer lmao
0 likesI guess yall missed the part where they said he's had experiences with the legal system?
2 likesBecause he is a resident and knows the system.
3 likesI actually enjoy watching Jeff than Steven as there wasnt much good detective work in the Steven’s.
the drugs protect you xD slow you down
1 likeMainly because...compared to those other suspects in these videos, Jeff had been into the system multiple times, to know what’s what!
6 likesYou can tell when the detective try’s to establish connection, he immediately dismisses him by saying “I don’t talk to the police, you are not my friend”
@LS-XIII Steven's was trash lol you're right. That video should be "what not to do in an interrogation" video
1 likeHe wasn't smart, he was experienced. If he was smart, he wouldn't already have a track record. This man is a drag to society, not someone to cheer.
0 likesIt’s because he has Been interrogated before, trust me if u have been interrogated once before and talked to prove your innocence you know not to do it again. the cop isnt trying to help you, he is trying to make you say that you did it
1 like@ardalol Which Michael? There's been a few.
0 likesJeff: "I didn't do it"
1244 likesOfficer: "Convince me I've got a lot of evidence, I've got a lot of physical evidence"
Jeff: "Like what?"
Officer: "(Gibberish) Why should I tell you that?"
(That shit really makes me mad because that already tells him that there wasn't any of him)
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Yea that's fucked up.
54 likesHe fuckin' got them on that one
26 likes@Dwayne Johnson can you do us a favor and, if you happen to know any of these “Jeffs”, convince them to legally chance their name to Jeff? we need to form a swarm
0 likes"Wham-bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell."
3078 likesLegendary.
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This is the best thing ever.
21 likesLMAO
4 likes10:18
23 likesJeff is what I inspire to be if i am ever interrogated again.
4 likes😂read that as he said it
2 likesYou heard that to?
0 likesI’ve withdrawn from morphine and dilaudid addiction which just means I was a legal heroin addict; I feel his pain. The stomach and bowel cramps, the horrendous diarrhea, the malaise, the flu symptoms, the weakness. I know how good that soda tastes too. Two things got me thru detox, sugar and tobacco. This man’s a trooper, and oddly endearing.
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I’m glad you’ve recovered, or at least that you’re taking steps to get better. You’re very strong
26 likesTabacco is definitely not good stop that
1 like@ThatGuyWhoComments if that’s what got him to stop hard drugs let him have it.
11 likesMy mom had addiction problems after starting Vicodin for chronic pain which led to Fentanyl and oxy. Now she’s been 4-5 months clean of everything. Weed was her way out of stuff that I could literally see draining her life from her. She looks younger and healthier and even feels less chronic pain now. I wish you well wishes on your journey sir. I know it’s not easy.
8 likes@ThatGuyWhoComments neither is sugar but I'm sure you don't mind consuming that. Back off.
11 likes@ThatGuyWhoComments Trading one addiction for another is generally a bad thing, yes. But replacing a heroin addiction with a tobacco addiction? Sounds like a hell of a good trade to me.
8 likes@Justin I'm a smoker and I wouldn't trade it for heroin, just saying.
0 likescrying in can't get my step-mum to stop drinking or smoking even though she's been to rehab around 4 times now :'>
0 likesThis guy almost knows how to play the game. I say "almost" because he never did get that butterfinger.
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I believe he knows how to play the game, only hackers can get the Butterfinger
25 likesBecause no one lays a finger on that butterfinger.
8 likes@Panda Pou the cake is a lie.. Jeff was right to think it was a fairytale
0 likeshe might be a druggy and all but he outsmarted the cops.
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Depends what you call ...outsmarts..being a smart ass is not an admirable character trait..clearly it’s what you admire..🇨🇦🇨🇦..
13 likesPauline Chapman.. okay Canadian
5 likes@Pauline Chapman neither is being a Canadian
1 like@Steven Farmer why
1 like@Shyanne H 😂
1 like@Steven Farmer How is he human garbage, sir?
1 likeMT MM that is a long ass comment
3 likesThat's the mistake people make. They automatically think "oh he's a druggie he must be stupid"
2 likesThey let there guard down and get outsmarted
Right from the start, the police are inviting him to play a game that they know they will win, if he agrees to play. By refusing to play, and walking away from the game, he won. There is a lesson there for everyone.
1 likeIsaac P. Pearson - amen , they turn on you so quick to get the info they want from you, then throw you under a bus and back up over you. ugh so frustrating.
1 like@Jess B The picture that came to my mind when I read your phrase, "....and back up over you. Ugh..." almost made me shudder, but it seems to be true, based on the interrogation videos and lawyers' advice videos that I've seen. I was a paratrooper when I was young and I strongly support the police, but these videos show just how manipulative and cold detectives can be if you are a suspect, so if I'm ever in their custody I'll say nothing and "lawyer up" immediately.
0 likesFor anyone wondering, this Legend is doing great. He’s got a house, and is clean, and free.
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That's amazing 👏! Wishing him the best!!
102 likesSource?
54 likes@Paul Busch He has a youtube channel which has been linked in a different comment thread on here (one of the top ones) and seems to make music.
125 likesYey good on him 👏
12 likesGood for him 👏
4 likes@Trilly Locke. I haven't even watched 1 second of this video and I already know the outcome. Thanks ever so much. You're so special.
13 likesGood to hear
4 likesYES!!
5 likesThat’s awesome.
5 likes🥺
1 likeI'm so happy to hear that, he is a gem!!
2 likesIs this true?
0 likes@WizzardOfPaws Yeah it is. There’s a bunch of links posted in the comment sections.
2 likesNice
2 likesI wish him the best honestly were all human
4 likes❤️❤️
1 likeThank you for letting us know
2 likesGood for him!
1 likeThat has made my day
1 likeNo he actually overdosed two weeks out
0 likesYea right
0 likesI was wondering so thank
0 likesSomeone please post a source or link. I don't see another one posted.
2 likes@Jesus H. Christ makes sense.....
0 likesPlease edit your comment and add his YouTube channel.
2 likes@Sunny Love love you for this comment!!!
0 likesDoubt it
0 likesHe’s been an addict for 10 years and now all of a sudden he’s clean? Nah
0 likes@Trilly Locke I was being sarcastic. You're a spoiler. Not much point in watching the movie or reading the book after someone tells you how it ends.
2 likesGood to hear.
0 likesYay! I'm so glad he's doing well!
0 likesThank you sir. It was my main concern
0 likesBest news of 2021
1 like@Sunny Love ... I wouldn't use the word "succubus" in this context.
0 likesAre you Jeff ?
0 likes@Tygs V evryone can change. And im pretty sure he did. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTb9wGVamkUbf88OOmEGS0Q thats his channel.
2 likesJust read your post Trilly. I hope you're right.
0 likesI heard he built Amazon.
0 likesGood to hear, Jeff ;)
0 likesI'm sure
0 likeslucky, i want a free clean house
0 likesLove that!
0 likes@anya so games if your name was Ayeday DaeDae Shermstick then you would have 4
0 likes4-7
0 likes@Jesus H. Christ you'd know all about that eh
0 likes@runningfromtheherd this isn't some fantasy. This is real life not your little play.
0 likes"So when's this coke gonna be here, or is that just a fairytale?"
334 likesJeff's a fucking OG lol
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officer: let’s start with the gun
14 likesJeff: i don’t have a gun
Officer: i thought so... but i’m gonna need to know where the gun is
Jeff: wut...what the fuck...are you
Asked for a lawyer 3 times, 7 hours later, still being interviewed.
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Yes. Violating people's basic rights does not seem to be a concern of this department. I assume the video of him saying he wanted an attorney would disappear if he did start talking later in the day.
65 likesIf at first you don't succeed, try, try again.
1 like@Alan Falleur if at first you don't strip a citizen of their civil liberties, try, deny and lie again.
19 likesThey took him back to his cell every time. He would then claim he was ready to talk and did not want a lawyer, so they’d go get him and bring him back for questioning. I realize not all of us have worked in law enforcement but it doesn’t really take much to figure out what he’s doing.
5 likes@Erc Ly it's not a concern in most police departments. They do and say what they want to. Biggest majority of officers of the law abuse their authority and try and bully civilians into rolling over on ppl. So they ain't gotta do the job in which they are paid to do.
1 like@I'm Broken Yes. Seems to be laws and rights are a gray area inside and outside the PD HQ.
0 likesI get it if this guy said he would talk to get a Coke and then play games. He is still protected. Coke and Butterfinger or not.
@Trevor Rogers He could have talked to a lawyer between interviews. I haven't looked into the case but there's a pretty big chance that happened since we don't know what happens during that time. I wouldn't call people names for simply stating another opinion 🤷🏼♀️
2 likesThis guy knows the system. He's not gonna buy the buddy act
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Quit trying to be edgy lol. The “buddy act” isn’t an act. I’m studying to be a psychologist and approaching someone who is in trouble with a “buddy act” can get them to talk real quick. It’s not bad or anything, in-fact if Jeff realizes that it’s an “act” (it isn’t) then he is only going to get worse, which is the opposite of what the justice system wants. The cop was still a bit of an asshole for not giving him a lawyer though.
26 likesミームロード:::Meme Lord I’m studying to be a lawyer /s and refusal to provide/allow him to speak to a lawyer is unlawful. It is absolutely a “buddy act”
104 likesミームロード:::Meme Lord lol they aren’t being edgy, approaching someone with the “buddy act” does get them to talk fast, thats why its an act, every interrogation they try and make you incriminate yourself by being friendly and blinding you of the fact, you really think these cops feel bad for some of these guys? Take the girl who put a hit out on her parents, the cop said he understood and that shes not a bad person, you really think thats what he thought? Pff
57 likesLawson Denny Exactly
0 likesLawson Denny a lawyer needs to be provided/ allowed to be contacted immediately after being asked and questioning stops until they get there. I’m not “assuming” anything. That would be considered refusal by continuing to question him after he requested legal council.
9 likes@ミームロード:::Meme Lord In the U.S. is not being an "asshole" its called violating constitutional rights when someone asks for a lawyer- the interview was supposed to end because thats a positive assertion of miranda rights. Theoretically, the officer committed a federal offense under 18 USC 242 by continuing the interview.
5 likesJohn Doe I know that, I’m just saying that it’s not a system. I’ve made that clear a billion times.
0 likes@Lawson Denny Not quite- it is the duty of the leo to terminate the interview once Miranda is invoked meaning you cant deliberately keep questioning in a structured interview. Also once Miranda is invoked there is a strong presumption against a secondary waiver unless an additional document is signed- these days leos have to document the waiver via a signed document.
0 likes@Lawson Denny and I never said you masturbated in public either. But thanks for your confession- the lord blesses you for it. Any other catholic confessions you'd like to make while we're holding confessional?
0 likes@ミームロード:::Meme Lord oh you sweet summer child.
0 likesLucas Sams Elaborate.
0 likesJoey Bobby With interrogators, or inmates? Because yes, the buddy act is real, but in this situation in the video, the interrogator is not using the act.
0 likesI brought popcorn and coke
0 likesAnonymous man lol
0 likes@ミームロード:::Meme Lord "I'll talk to the parole officer for you, I'll talk to the DA for your, tell them you're a great guy". What a fucking joke. The interrogator is under no obligation to do that and even if he did it wouldn't mean jack shit to anyone including the court (therefore it's an act, it's not what it seems to be). He's also pretending he's trying to help out a guy who got released from jail the very next day for lack of evidence (therefore he was pretending to be a buddy, trying to get evidence to detain him longer). Buddy confirmed. Act confirmed. It was a buddy act. Could it have been more extreme? Sure, but there is absolutely no wiggle room in this definition, we observed an interrogation that used a "buddy act" technique to try to solicit evidence in this video.
0 likesNo, he’s not gonna but the coke
0 likesThis video just shows WHY you really don't talk to cops in that situation. They try to screw you. Guys says he wants a lawyer and simply doesn't get one, instead he gets pressed and pressed while withdrawal kicks in.
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Literally nothing to gain, only to lose, even if you're innocent.
26 likesThat's why you better call saul
14 likesExactly. Like they just ignored his rights altogether even tho they pressed him to say he understood his rights. Gotta love the system
2 likes@Zina Verde that's not system's fault tho
1 like@bait they are literally a big thing in the system
3 likes@Dxmnk Schxfr Bruh. A police did something wrong, it's a personal thing. You can't blame whole system for that.
2 likesYou can say system is corrupt but it's not system's fault, it'd thr peoples fault
@Dxmnk Schxfr Man, the police is actually trying to get the bad guys. I know that among all the arrests there may be innocents, but in the majority of cases these people are criminals, and they don't need your concern, at all.
0 likes@bait I can. And I do.
0 likes“Wham bam, thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell.”
1373 likesNice
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Typically smack head moves
2 likesstealing this if i can ever find a situation for it
4 likesPRICELESS!!💥💣💥
0 likesThey keep bringing him back in because each time they read him his rights, then that cancels out his request for a lawyer in the previous questioning. So he would need to request a lawyer each time he is brought in for questioning. Also the cops know he is a heroin addict so they are keeping him incarcerated until he is completely jonesing for the drug, knowing he might talk to them and tell them where he was and what he was doing at the time of the robbery. They are banking on him defending himself just to get out of the police station so that he can get some drugs. It's no different then starving someone and not feeding them any food. After 4 days of no food or water the guy will talk and try to defend himself just so he can leave to get something to eat because of starvation. This is what the cops are doing but Jeff is smart enough not to fall for it.
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After four days without water u r dead... or rly close to ...
9 likesComparing drugs with food gtfoh
0 likes@Galactica Phantom it's a reasonable comparison.
22 likesWait a sec. It’s legal that cops don’t give them any food or water?
1 likeIt's a comparison. Of course you must feed food and water. But for many addicted people, if given a choice between the two, they would choose drugs because their body and minds need it. Or they feel they need it. If he did an armed robbery then he should spend time in jail. However, you should never speak to police investigators. Even if you are completely innocent, you don't ever speak to investigators without a lawyer. This dope head guy knows this. He has enough knowledge or wisdom to know to never speak to them. I was simply pointing out the strategy of the police here. They know they have a week to keep bringing him in while he is in withdrawal.
11 likesThat’s absolutely incorrect... if you ask for a lawyer they cannot talk to you without a lawyer being present. Rereading you your rights after you verbally said you understand them does not reset anything
4 likesJustin Pena There’s no time limit on getting you a lawyer though, and as we’ve seen they can literally keep interrogating.
3 likesAh I didn't even think about that! Damn, that must really suck! In a way their manipulating someone who may or may not be innocent to confess (guilty in this case) under extreme stress (addiction).
2 likesIt's common for police to withhold heart medication and such for several days. This is the country we live in. Yay torture.
2 likes@nax no its not
0 likes@patrick peters1988 are you a drug addict? Have you been around drug addicts? They WILL choose drugs over food all the way till complete starvation drugs dont suck the fat off ur body, the countless times a junkie will choose a cheap high over a cheap meal is why they turn to skin and bones. So to sum it up, yes drugs and food are acceptably comparable for an addict
0 likes@Unknown Persons You know.. you might be onto something.
0 likesgreat videos but for the sake of god stop interrupting
0 likesThose sort of people are a waste 9 months of pregnancy 🤰🗑️
1 likeI love how this drug addict is the smartest criminal I've seen yet in your series.
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By far.
1 like"AH MY NAME A JEFF"😀😀😀
0 likesThe unprofessionalism of these cops are so unreal, Jeff asked for a lawyer more than 2 times, he should only have to ask once, still didn’t get one though.
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They’ll get you one but it doesn’t mean they are required to stop asking you questions. They’re trying to trick him into giving up incriminating info
14 likes@asdf the cop literally states that he has the right to stop answering questions at any time until a lawyer is present. To then prod him for more questions is infringing upon that right directly, as he has made it clear he wishes to exercise that right. While the cop certainly can keep asking questions, it's just going to be more fodder for the attorney to pull up against him as evidence that they were mistreating Jeff.
67 likes@XP_Shared wrong. They can still ask questions during the time before a lawyer shows up, which is exactly what happened here. After the first interrogation, they still have the right to pull him into an interrogation, but cant force him to say anything. They can ask questions but if he wont answer he cant be hurt by that.
6 likes@Connor Endres funny how you ignore the part where I say "the cop can certainly keep asking questions, but" and explain why it's detrimental to do so. Also, to keep him there for over 5 hours and try to question him again is a clear attempt to put him under mental duress. Which is not a valid way of obtaining information or evidence, as stated by almost any case where a forced confession occurs. Good attempt, though, you certainly have a future as an armchair officer.
24 likes@Connor Endres also, the first google search of "can an officer keep asking you questions after you ask for attorney" it outright states they cannot, according to multiple websites. He had made it quite certain he only wanted an attorney, leaving 0 interpretation to his words. Maybe research your own opinion before you weigh in?
16 likes@ToFu because they're literally misinforming people about an infringement of a right by disputing the facts, without any sources or information to back it up. I also wouldn't be talking if you're just going to resort to ad-hominems and not actually make a point.
26 likes@ToFu i dont think this is a matter of opinion my guy
14 likes@ToFu not an opinion. It's a flaw in the law
4 likes@ToFu lol dude so used to retreating to the "it's just my opinion" defence he does it about a literal fact
9 likes@ToFu thats not a “different opinion”. this is a Matter. Of. Law. Not opinion.
8 likes@ToFu do you know what an opinion is?
2 likes@ToFu lol, enjoy defending the state trying to step on rights
2 likesHe needs help. Not his rights violated by criminal blue line cops. Defund the police!
0 likesFull feature film Called Jeff starring A Heavily Sedated McCaughnahey? Or Christian Bale? James Franco?
1 likeJeff is a textbook example of what you should do when interrogated by the police. Lots of innocent people are in jail for talking (thinking, I am innocent and the truth will win. It does not. The Police are not on your side). If the police have physical evidence an interrogation is not needed. However, if you end up in court then you talk during the trial which will be more fair with witnesses of what you say. Look for seminars and teaching of defence lawers, they will say the same thing as I.
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Biggest lie a cop can use… “I have enough evidence to put you away for a long time” well what the hell are you asking questions for
85 likesNot really, he said a lot. He’s very talkative and while most of what he said had nothing to do with the situation he did mention some things about it. If you’re talking you’re not thinking. Just ask for a lawyer and say nothing else other than, “when is my lawyer arriving?”
32 likes@Seth Brown he asked for a laywer right
7 likesEnlightening.
2 likesPretty hilarious that on this channel the one person that does a good job in the interrogation room is the literal heroin junkie in the middle of withdrawal who just wants a coke.
24 likes100% agreed. I have been arrested my fair share of times in my youth and I refused to say anything other than "I want my lawyer".
4 likes@Seth Brown he said he was at his buddies and that he's addicted to heroin, and that he doesn't talk to cops. Am I missing something?
3 likes@mmmk you really expect me to rewatch this video just to answer that question? No thanks.
0 likes@Keaton Hatch not sure about in US, but in other countries, if you confess your crime your punishment will be diminished.
0 likes@Bernardo c yea it’s the same in the US that’s what a guilty plea is in court. But this isn’t court it’s an interrogation room designed to gather as much evidence against you. You never confess in an interrogation room, it will be used to against you in court. If the cops say “just tell us what happened, we already know but we want to hear it from you” what that really means they don’t have substantial evidence that probably won’t hold up in court but please tell us so we can charge you and win the case.
0 likesDoesn't matter how innocent you are, there's only four words you should ever say in an interrogation: "I want a lawyer." The police are not your friends; they will not do anything for you. This is their job. They are not there to help you. Again, no matter how innocent you are--they are not there to help! There is nothing you can say that will help you get released. Nothing! DO NOT SPEAK except to say, "I want a lawyer." If they keep asking questions, "Are you refusing my request for a lawyer? I want a lawyer." I was tgiven this advice by a friend who was an NYPD Detective for 20 years. Jeff was smart!
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Jeff was smart?
29 likesA heroin addict for 14 years, wearing a paper suit, under arrest for armed robbery and looking at 10 to life..
This is all true. In many cases if they don't have evidence they will make it up. "I want a lawyer" is all that should be said EVER! It is amazing that even after he asks for a lawyer they continue to question him. That's an absolute violation of his Constitutional rights.
70 likesBe more explicit: "I'm invoking my right to counsel." Believe it or not, it's been an issue on State's appeal
27 likes@T L In that case I want my Aunt Julie.
7 likes@Oldbatwit I want her too 😉
15 likesIf he was really smart he wouldn’t be a junkie
6 likes@The Devil's Advocate I remember when I thought the world was that simple
48 likes@Oldbatwit All that's true. and Jeff is smart regarding how he handled the situation. Look at how he never said anything that could incriminate himself--good or bad.. He knew the system and that the police are there to pin him down and find discrepancies. A lawyer would tell his/her client "Don't say anything."
21 likes@The Devil's Advocate Nevertheless, he is an addict and still knew how to conduct himself. He said nothing to incriminate himself. He didn't try to explain his actions or his motivations. He didn't give the police anything; so they had to proceed on whatever evidence they had--if any beyond circumstantial. He was smart in the way he played the system's game.
10 likesEither way, if there is actual solid evidence, it will come out in court regardless. Anything else in the interrogation is merely an add-on charge. Police build cases, not defend them in court; not enough people know to stay silent or request a lawyer to be present.
4 likesThe Devil's Advocate ::::: Being smart has nothing to do with whether you self medicate or not. Person's that are extremely hurt self medicate. The fact that you neglect all this is a sign that YOU are not SMART.
9 likesMy friend is a cop and told me the exact same thing
1 likeIf you're a US Citizen who has been arrested by US Police, sure.
2 likesAtleast in Australia, their job is to enforce the law, keep the peace and help the citizens of their nation. My interactions with officers has been extremely positive in Australia, I had an intervention order served to me after my ex filed for one, when she filed she claimed I owned guns (at the time I didnt) and that I was extremely violent and unhinged, when officers arrived to serve the paper to me (and a court summons) they arrived with 4 at the door and 2 on standby at their patrol vehicles, they were equipped with vests and were prepared to draw their firearms while also carrying enormous cans of pepper spray.
When they saw me in my pajamas and confused, it clicked in their heads that the warning they received was a fabrication, especially when they asked if I owned firearms and I denied that I did. They were cool, collected and polite to me and after the initial introduction at the door, they were just generally respectful of me, particularly when I broken down in a panic about it all. One officer, a female, sat me down on the couch and talked me through the situation about how they had to collect items that were in dispute of having been stolen until the court case and other things.
Other cases, such as when four detectives broke into my fathers house to arrest my brother for armed assault left me again with a panic attack after barricading myself in my room. At the time all I saw were plain clothed people trying to peek into windows in the house (which was a fenced off property with the entrances locked, so they had to climb in to approach) so I thought my brother had angered some gang members or something (since I knew he was doing drugs and was messing around with gangs at the time) since I'm a pretty strait laced sort of person, it sent me into a panic and when they forced entry on the room (thinking I was my brother) they tried to defuse the situation as calmly as possible.
You should always ask for a lawyer in interrogations, yes, because you don't know the law very well if at all and should get someone who does to help you, but if you aren't in the US, the police are meant to help you, not cause you harm. Particularly because they get paid a steady wage with benefits unlike the US.
Jeff was very smart and clearly had been around the block a few times, when the cop said “give me something I’ll give you something, I’ll tell the prosecutor you were helpful” and Jeff was like that doesn’t mean dick. And he was so right they try to make it seem like they’re on your side and want what’s best for you and believing them will fuck you over real quick
3 likesFree coke tho
0 likes@T L doesn't mean anything more, you could just say LAWYER and nothing else lol.
1 like@TheCoffeeNut711 Honestly, that's kind of what they are hoping for. As was said in the video, they want info to try and pin you down. The other urge is to talk and explain. The less you say the less your lawyer will have to undo.
2 likesI sound like I've had all sorts 9f interactions with the criminal justice system. I haven't personally. However, I did work as an intermediary between the homeless/mentally ill and the criminal justice system for se3veral years. I saw a lot.
@The Devil's Advocate it's a nondiscriminitiry drug
0 likesThere is a great retirement plan for junkies.
0 likesYou have to be smart to get the junkie pension.
All you smart junkies enough of your excuses.
“Come on it’s time to get sober “
All your smarts are killing you.
@The Devil's Advocate you have the right to remain silent too
2 likes@WEIRDEAD
0 likesI know you ❤️ your heroin
But it’s time to get sober you are killing yourself. I care for you friend. You can do it.
@The Devil's Advocate lol... Nice try .
0 likesWrong guy..
@The Devil's Advocate sir Isaac Newton, one of the most inteligent humans in history died because he consumed mercury regularly. Substance abuse isn't really a good metric to determine intelligence my guy. Freud was a coke head, Francis crick was high on LSD half the time, plenty of incredibly smart people have history of drug abuse. And plenty of people that are dumb as rocks never touched a drug in their lives.
2 likes@Billy Elden Ring
0 likesOk you’re right you junkies are very smart.
Newton was 84 it’s too bad that mercury killed him.
Not true. If you are guilty you should man up and say three words: “I did it”.
0 likes100% correct. They aren't your friends and they twist words and manipulate. No, never talk without an attorney and its smart. People rarely know their rights. This is how coerced confessions happen.
1 likeAgent 99 First, Don’t commit crimes and if you did you should cooperate with the police if you are guilty of a crime.
0 likes@J K I've been the victim of a crime and the police made my life worse.
2 likes@J K I made a disclaimer, nobody read that as expected
0 likes@J K never committed a crime in my life FYI. I had my first ticket in 20 years Dec 26. I wouldn't have my career if I was out committing crimes. Ridiculous assumption.
0 likesAgent 99 So no you’re on the criminal’s side? Sounds like bullshit to me.
0 likesAgent 99 I said if. If you commit a crime you should accept responsibility and cooperate with the police and accept your punishment.
0 likes@J K lol! I'm just a smooth criminal over here! 😂 any fair minded person would know to call their attorney for the reasons listed. Circumstances aren't as black and white when discussing cooperation. We as citizens have rights too. I'm sorry you don't understand that but I'm not about to waste my Sunday explaining it to some faceless person on the internet.
0 likes@J K
0 likesNice 👍🏽Gentlemen we need a volunteer to ride up and bring us back some extra men.
Please take 1 step forward for this mission that you might not survive.
Everybody takes one step back except for you. You are a very brave and honorable man.
Agent 99 So, to clarify, your position is that criminals should thwart the efforts of law enforcement to hold them accountable and responsible for the crimes they commit. You sound like a criminal.
1 likeAgent 99 So you think you have a right to commit criminal acts?
0 likes@rob864guy Okeydoke.
0 likes@J K I'm not saying that criminals should get away with crime. However, the criminal justice system is severely messed up in the USA. Technically most people are guilty of some kind of crime(s), almost nobody is completely innocent. "You have the right to remain silent." "Etc..." Read about your Miranda Rights here:
0 likeshttps://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-rights/miranda-rights-and-the-fifth-amendment.html
Even if you are a criminal, you should not do the Law Enforcement Officers (LEO) job for them. Every lawyer (and every Cop I know) in the US will tell you that you should NOT talk with LEO without an attorney present and without their advice to or not to answer any given question. Let them speak or not speak for you or advise you to or NOT to speak.
Many criminals (as well as innocent people) have been charged and convicted of charges or additional charges that they may or may not have been guilty of due to statements they made without proper representation. Lawyers screw up as well but most people will do much better with the help of an attorney (even the mostly worthless Public Defender). Confessing never helps (unless a prior negotiated deal can or has been made)! The LEO is not there to help you! Their job is to arrest and get convictions for crimes. They don't care who gets convicted, just that a conviction has been made for that crime. Of course they prefer that they get the right person, but it's not a requirement. LEO are allowed to LIE, deceive and confuse a suspect to gain any evidence and build a case. Even if it's a BS case... you would be very surprised how many people are in jail or prison that weren't guilty of the crime(s) they were convicted with. Not to say that many of them shouldn't be there anyway.
My 2 1/2 cents.
@Mike McMillan I'll tell you what is more messed up than the criminal justice system. The amount of shitty, lowlife criminal civilians who murder, rape and steal. That's the problem you need to focus on. There are very few problems if you obe the law. I obey the law have have zero problems with the police. Basically every person I know obeys the law and has zero problems with the police.
0 likesFocus on your responsibilities in being a responsible and honest citizen and focus less on whatever rights you have when fighting the police after you have committed a crime.
@J K First, I'd like to establish that I consider myself a very physically conservative, law abiding, slightly socially liberal ish conscious person with a slightly Libertarian view of things (I realize that sentence could use some work, sorry. That applies to the rest of next 2 cents as well.). I don't disagree with the ideology of staying within the Law. Even if that is sometimes harder to practice than preach or believe in. I fully believe in being a responsible and honest citizen. I do however, disagree with many LEO tactics as well as most citizens' (and LEO) lack of knowledge of the Laws and their rights. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. They are also are responsible for knowing their rights and what is and is not a violation of them.
0 likesReally, "focus less on whatever rights you have". Wow, that just seems to be an attempt to get someone to go off.
Most LEO (especially local LEO) are horribly misinformed or ignorant of actual Laws and Regulations and even Policies of the Departments they work for (some knowingly break or bend the Law). Unfortunately this is a fact that unintentionally (and somes on purpose) hurts many innocent (as I said before, nobody is completely innocent) people.
The jails are also full of people that have yet to be prosecuted in court (guilty and innocent) that can't afford the actual bail or the 10% most bail bonds charge when used. Many citizens simply take a plea deal to get out. The deal of a different or lessor charge or lessor of the many extra tacked on charges that LEO and/or Prosecutors use to get some kind of conviction Often, with horrendous repercussions, immediately or later in life. Sometimes that plea bites them later in life with unintended consequences because a new Law that comes in being and is retroactive (it happens a surprising amount). There are hundreds, probably thousands of Laws or amendments to Laws that affect many people without their knowledge. After once being in the system, any interaction with LEO, (even when a citizen is trying to do the right thing) can be disastrous or at least very uncomfortable and inconvenient.
It's always best to completely avoid any interaction or involvement with a LEO unless a person is a direct victim of a crime or witnesses a crime. Just being a witness can subject a person to incredible hardship. Although it's every citizens duty to provide accurate and timely information, usually witness testimony or affidavit is flawed, often coached, inflammatory, and usually flat inconsistent to the true facts.
Everyone knows or at least should know or educate themselves with their Rights, the Laws of the land and proper edicate if they ever do have an interaction with Law Enforcement. Law enforcement have an incredibly hard and dangerous job. People should consider that when dealing with them. They are just people that also have families, friends and co-workers. Just like any workplace, there are certainly people (LEO) that are good and some are bad at the job they have. There are very intelligent, well trained employees, as well as the opposite of each. In many areas of the world and the USA, there is socially ingrained prejudices, flat racism, ignorance, bullies, mean f****rs and a**w**les and just plain idiots. Those facts should scare the hell out everyone.
My extra 1/2 cent.
@Mike McMillan
0 likes1. In this world there is too much of a focus on rights and not enough focus on responsibility. Do not confuse "too much focus" with "should be zero focus".
2. If people focus on their responsibilities 90% of the serious issues go away. Problems arise because of criminals not because of cops. If you obey the law you are HIGHLY UNLIKELY to have any kind of meaningful encounter with the police.
3. Simply put. Worry first about not committing crime before you start worrying about what you do after you have intentionally committed criminal acts. Don't put yourself in that position and 90% of the problems go away.
4. It's fiscally, not physically
Yep!! A lot of innocent people are behind bars, or have died in prison, because they decided to talk to the police.
2 likesThere are also a lot of guilty people walking the streets, because they never talked, they lawyered up, and the police couldn't get enough evidence to convict.
@Natanya Parsons Correct, the biggest problem is guilty people getting off and then walking the streets and committing more crimes. That is not good at all.
0 likesVery few innocent people are in prison. The laws and legal procedures are very much biased in favor of not convicting innocent people.
Criminals all think they are innocent i'm sure, but it's the rare exception. No system is perfect. And most of the "innocent" people in prison are lifetime criminals anyhow, so it's probably better that they are not doing harm to others outside of prison.
@Natanya Parsons That's a good point. Should they have all confessed? Or better, turned themselves in. Does anyone that speeds, even accidentally do that? Or gets away with letting a parking meter run out accidentally? Of course not. Not to say murderers, rapists and thieves should go free, however, that doesn't mean I would expect only the honest people to be punished. The bad guys would never freely admit to those crimes (well some might, but I wouldn't count on that). Either way, everyone, even non-citizens have a right to an attorney.
0 likesMy friend there is a saying in Australia that we r government and hear to help you , just run
0 likesGetdown AndDye cops love to play that angle “ just be honest we will help you out, we will tell so an so you cooperated” like they actually give af about what happens to you. I unfortunately learned that as a teenager and now know the best way to deal with cops is keeping your fucking mouth shut.
1 like@J K You do realize that it's not the police's job to hold anyone accountable, right? It's the job of the criminal justice system.
0 likesHere's the definition from Britannica encyclopedia : "Police, the body of officers representing the civil authority of government. Police typically are responsible for maintaining public order and safety, enforcing the law, and preventing, detecting, and investigating criminal activities."
No one here is advocating for criminal activity. What commenters, myself included, are saying is that the police are not your friends. They are an investigative body doing a job. Their offer of advocacy is not true and is only done as a manipulative tactic. The sooner your realize that the wiser you are in this situation.
Innocent or guilty you should never volunteer information without an attorney present. Not only is that your right but it is the basis of the US justice system: innocent until proven guilty.. Our system is designed in favor of a guilty person going free rather than an innocent person being convicted. The system also recognizes levels of guilt and innocences. Very little is black or white in our system.
As we have seen too many times, the criminal justice system in the US is flawed. So the old adage is applicable: Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Lightning Round The police enforce the laws. Do you think the judges are going to arrive at the scene of an active crime? When someone has your family at gunpoint who shows up? Court reporters?
0 likes@J K Okay, now I see where you're coming from--you're just being deliberately obtuse. Welp, good luck with that. I'm out.
0 likesLightning Round Yes, you now see that you are wrong.
0 likesLightning Round The police are not supposed to be your “friend”. Their job is to enforce the law and put bad guys in jail on in the ground. If the judicial system is broken it’s broken in that too many criminals are set free.
0 likes@J K What a sheltered life you lead, child.
0 likesHe’s just milking them for free Coca Cola, that’s why he’s a hero - balls. Wham bam thanks for the coke, put me back in the cell.
0 likesCop: do u understand?
1591 likesJeff: * throws snot tissue in bin * no
Cop: huh?
Jeff: yes
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noœH
27 likeshüh,
yeaH
Odds are he'll be back for his Butterfinger. And another Coke.
0 likes"i got a lot of physical evidence"
2934 likes"then why you still talking to me?"
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A smart dummy
140 likesgottem
45 likes@User name 1234 They can only detain someone for so long without adequate evidence.
34 likesApparently, they arrested him on suspicion and had no evidence, unless they can trick him.
That was dodgy where’s the lawyer he asked for
13 likes@kelly xx Probably playing golf with the prosecuting attorney. Jeff knew to keep his mouth shut.
15 likes😂😂🤣🤣exactly..lmao!!!
0 likesAlguien que me cuente qué pasa en español y por qué he llegado aquí gracias
0 likesOfficer: "You have the RIGHT to an attorney"
3018 likesJeff: "I want my lawyer"
Officer: "Okay... But also no"
Officer: "You have the right to stay silent"
Jeff: "🤐"
Officer: "Why won't you talk?"
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Wait, what the hell? You’re taking advantage of your legal rights?! What is this bullshit?!
254 likes😅🤣
8 likes@Echs Dee I hate it when humans have there stupid rights not being guilty and what not
48 likes@Echs Dee lol
6 likesOmg 1k likes damn thanks guys i didn't think it was a good comment🤣
5 likesthis is HOW you talk to pigs lmaoo
7 likeslive, love, LAUGH! 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
2 likesThe Fourth Man frequently falsely accused😂😂😂 yeah sure
0 likes@iskreemrex your a human to lol
1 like@Heidi you knew, you humble soul you
0 likes@Super_squishy_awesomeness _ it happens believe it or not... more often than it should
0 likesBadd Newz I buy it once or twice but when you get into the “frequently” territory I’m gonna say you probably need to stop doing whatever you’re doing. You don’t get hauled in for questioning frequently unless you are doing bad things or are around the wrong people.
0 likes@Badd Newz If you're talking about my comment I didn't lol. I didn't think it was that good a comment 🤣 there are way better comments than my one.
0 likes@Bosanac Pravi idk why did you need to comment that? Maybe because freedom of speech. Comment sections can have whatever comment you wanna type as long as your not violating YouTube's terms of service. Also if you don't like the comment just move on.
0 likesHahahaha the Coca Cola marketing devesion because he keeps bringing up the coke in the video u fell for that joke?
0 likesFree coke 😂😂😂
1 likeCop: You have the right to remain silent.
151 likesJeff: Remains silent.
Cop: Surprised Pikachu Face.
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😂😂😂
3 likesthanks for the laugh lol
0 likesThats funny all that shit talking about evidence and they release him 12 hours later
0 likesJeff: "You playin' the good cop?"
4471 likesCop: "No. I'm usually a prick."
Jeff: "You look like a prick."
Legendary!!!
I literally spit my coffee...
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Why ppl think quoting the video they just watched is a good comment?
41 likesAdam Carlos Ikr its so annoying that rhey get attention off it too
10 likes@Sascha Basch I just posted it in the odd chance somebody didn't catch the verbal interplay. Whether I get likes or not is just incidental, nothing more, nothing less.
67 likes@Sascha Basch cos it's good for another chuckle 😏
44 likes@Sascha Basch I was about to switch off and seen this comment so decided to watch the rest 🤣
15 likesEvox Nearly 400 people are glad you posted Evox- it's a shared laugh & one way to bring strangers who would otherwise not share even a moment together.
25 likes*sameeeee*☕
1 like@DeanieMack yep😃
3 likes410 now...
ikr hes so badass
1 likeEvox no u didn’t 😂 u copied it from other people bc ur desperate for likes and validation u aint goin nowhere
2 likes@Sascha Basch The "near" exact quote came from the video which would mean almost everyone posting it would be copying from the original.
8 likesEvox exactly so maybe next time be original and get the likes u want so much from something legitimate
1 like@Sascha Basch I'm unclear as to why I would need validation as it doesn't serve me in any particular way since I'm posting semi-anonymously anyway. To your claim of legitimate, it would seem news outlets quote things all the time so I don't see your point.
11 likesAnd last but not least, as to the originality of it, I don't care. Most ideas are a rehash of the past anyway. There might be some original physics or mathematics produced somewhere, but it doesn't carry much humor in it...
Evox be named Evox if gay
3 likes@Sascha Basch I was wondering when we were going to get to the ad hominem part of our conversation. And since you were the first to step in it, I'll let you wallow in it, since I find the smell offputting. Besides, stooping that low hurts my back...
10 likesEvox lolz
1 like@Pappa Flammy Boi just saying I appreciate your comment, Evox. No use in arguing with a brandead 14-year-old here. Why does the validity of youtube comments matter to these people, anyway? Imagine being so socially cut off that they think every person's actions is for imaginary internet points. have a like :)
11 likes@Socrative Much appreciated... Liked you back
2 likeswhat do people get from likes ?
2 likesI woke my kid up LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@CE money
0 likesSocrative Hey im 15
0 likes@Sascha Basch because they feel that what they are finding funny is common with others. They are sharing the moment. It is like when you tell a story multiple times and it is still funny even though you know what happened.
3 likes“Legen- wait for it ... dary “ -Barney Stinson
2 likes@Sascha Basch i don't mind it people quoting what was said, i think of it as a reaction to the video. that's kinda why we look at the comment section right ? to see peoples opinions or reactions to the video.
6 likes@HunGerMovies I gotta be careful what I drink and watch.
2 likesHaha!
0 likes@Pappa Flammy Boi LITERALLY
0 likes@Adam Carlos seems like you're just being a Karen on the internet lol
2 likesYou spit your coke
1 like@Adam Carlos its a way for people to connect with each other. Repeating something you heard in the video is how on the internet you say "this is what I liked about this video" and sometimes it makes you laugh because somebody else acknowledged what you also liked, its how we share a laugh together through youtube. Thats how that works and why.
6 likes@Adam Carlos I mean...we can both be right just from different angles, Its all down to how you choose to look at it. Im not as aggressively individualistic as I was in my 20s I just mellowed out and got more friendly about the public in general but thats just me.
4 likesBarmaley Lol no u
1 like@Pappa Flammy Boi good on you for defending yourself, I for one did catch that smooth boss interaction but reading it again gave me a good chuckle lol, liked. Dont pay any mind to the negative people theyre just taking out their frustrations on the internet.
2 likes@Sascha Basch To show others how much amusement he/she got from that particular segment. And the no, of likes shows the no of ppl agreeing to that emotion. It's a human nature to try and feel. And this is apparently one of the way. connect Understand?
1 likeAndromeda is Coming Guys its a rlly bad comment that lacks creativity amd humor and is undeserving of hundreds of likes 😂. The fact that yall are all defending this dude because i said rhat is honesty pretty funny and shows that you all have nothing better to do. The only reason im even replying is just to humor myself because this is honesty pretty sad
1 like@Sascha Basch has it ever occured to you that youre just a 15 year old kid who hasnt been alive long enough to understand what matters most about life, its about connecting with people. I know you dont understand this but one day you will i promise.
2 likesAndromeda is Coming Alright if thats true that doesnt mean i can’t mess with people for fun and enjoy the anarchy
0 likes@Sascha Basch don't worry about them, everyone is entitled to their own opinion just like you. i'm just surprised people are getting offended over a 15 year olds opinion over the Internet lmaooo
1 like@Sascha Basch It appears to me that you guys are reading way too much information between the lines. It's a quote, it originated from the video, it was humorous, I shared it, some people liked it, end of story. It literally is that simple...
4 likesEvox How is it the end of the story if u ended it in three dots 😆
0 likes@Sascha Basch .
3 likesEvox ..
1 like@Sascha Basch the comment is free you can say what you what honey.
0 likesMiSs RaNdOm Yeah i can say what i want. And?
0 likes@Sascha Basch well, he got 2000 + likes i guess that is why
0 likesestebiajero Wdym “thats why” 😂
0 likesAM STIL LAUGHING ABT IT HAHAHAHA
1 like@Sascha Basch wow.. such woke, much wisdom.. from a 15yo too.. that's impressive, i must say
1 like@Sascha Basch it's actually good for people who do not good at english like me, sometimes I can not hear clearly what people were saying in the video or when they use the vocabularies that I dont know, I would look for these kind of comments to discover the content in the video
3 likesi dont care what anyone says, this is a good comment
1 like😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
0 likes@Pappa Flammy Boi lol ppl will hate on anything
1 like@Sascha Basch im 15 as-well... and now see why people make fun of teens. Because of people like you.
0 likes@Saitama • 13 years ago Ight
0 likes@Sascha Basch I mean you are giving them attention?
1 like@Sascha Basch little boy, I think whoever is in charge of your internet time should be watching you more closely.
0 likes@Sascha Basch you sound very upset that your comments don’t get likes
0 likes@The Midnight Library huh no i just think making bad comments to fish for likes is low
0 likes@Adam Carlos 4 thousand people disagree
0 likes@Sascha Basch If you think that way then do so, im just saying my opinion on your comment never said you can't say what you want hun.
0 likes"How bout that Butterfinger you promised me." The legend of Jeff.
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Yeah i mean its kinda bad that they bribe him like that.
37 likesYeah, why not make up his own "fairy tale" and get some glimmer of actual nutrition outta these guys? Freakin' Coke...
3 likes🤣
1 like@Beans No Confession = No Butterfinger.
3 likes@Beans Yes. I agree it is bad. They should offer him something better like some methadone. That's what he needs.
1 like@ijustgottasaythis because they knew he was a heroin addict and sugar helps tremendously when you're going through withdrawals to help take the edges off
1 like@Miss Tury because they knew he was a heroin addict. Sugar helps tremendously when you're going through withdrawals to help take the edges off.
1 likeButterfingers are for people who sign confessions
2 likes1:51
0 likesNgl thats a pretty bad UFC record
i hioe jeff is corporate boss at cocacola he advertised it well enough there in my opinion
0 likes"You've really handcuffed me here by asking for an attorney"
771 likesWhile the dude sits there in literal handcuffs lol. What an ironic choice of words. You've basically handcuffed this poor officer by asking for legal counsel, Jeff
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Whilst Jeff asks the questions. 😂😂😂
15 likesJeff, what a fucking legend.
19 likesMy heart glows for this man.
14 likesLmao fuckin A man
3 likesFinessed them for 2 cokes then said take me back to my cell 😂
7 likesBtw I was the 420th like 😤
Yea I chuckled after hearing that irony
1 likeAnti hero = dad
1 like"You have the right to remain silent......
100 likes...do you understand your rights?
-Remain in silence
I think he understand his rights most than everybody in this channel 😂
Where do you get methadone? I dont I just buy heroin, damn cut out the middleman
0 likes“wham, bam, thank you for the coke, now put me back in the cell.” has been my favorite quote for so long and to hear it again is like music to my ears, legendary.
118 likesSo did he do it?
0 likesThey kept a heroin addict in an interview room for almost 24 hours after he had asked for an attorney multiple times. Hopefully the whole thing got tossed.
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Honestly this was the most disgusting part for more, at least twenty minutes in. I can’t believe that’s legal, and I suspect it isn’t. Especially given asking for the lawyer repeatedly. Intentionally putting someone into withdrawal that can be so agonizing that people regularly attempt suicide is horrific.
26 likesAsh people don’t understand it. It’s like taking a diabetic and mocking them and refusing them insulin.
19 likesTl;dr the stigma around addiction is disgusting and has directly lead to intentional terrible treatment of addicts, all perfectly exemplified in this video.
13 likesYes
0 likes@Nicole or.. does the consequences of addiction and joblessness make addicts transform themselves out of necessity for drugs into pathological liars.
2 likesjeff choma Not gonna derail this into a route where you blame addicts for x, y and z. Thanks, next.
4 likes@Puppy Puppington I understand what you mean, however what is the solution? Cops give him heroin? ...
0 likesIdk how it is anywhere else, but anytime I’ve been to jail and was withdrawing from heroin, I had constant medical supervision. That’s one of the first things they ask you when you get arrested “are you going to be withdrawing from any drugs? Blah blah blah”
3 likesCops should never interrogate someone going through withdrawals cuz it causes a lot of false confessions because they just wanna get out of there as fast as possible. I don’t think it’s illegal for them to do that, but it’s just not morally correct in my opinion. They should have stopped questioning him and waited until he was physically able to.
@Nicole he kept his composure by releasing he had no other choice. for some this realization comes harder than others, just like addicts who still choose to fancy whatever their vice was and after withdrawling they choose to free themeselves from that vice, but that doesn’t mean you have to withdrawl. It’s trully crazy what the human brain can concieve
0 likes@amaniiexchnge It's not legal in any way shape or form. Once he asks for an attorney the questioning stops. That's what is a legal. They can keep him there But they had better be getting someone from the pd's office. They cannot keep him there and then keep going back in trying to get him to incriminate himself.
2 likesThat happened to me in 24 hours jail stay. I asked for my insulin numerious times
4 likes@777 777 no one's defending his crime, everyone is pointing out that the cops didn't honor him asking for an attorney when he's supposed to.
3 likesKerim Gueney someone who goes in to peoples houses armed with a gun while ur family still there . To me they should not have any rights ...stop defending criminals
0 likesO and u must b a Democrat
0 likes@777 777 criminals are those who break laws. Uniforms aren't exemptions
2 likesit is actually perfectly legal to keep them in the interview room, even when going through withdrawals. not necessarily humane, but enforcement uses exhaustion to their benefit. although it is definitely not legal to keep questioning him after he asks for counsel
1 like@Jessica Murphy It is not legal to continue to try to question a suspect after that suspect has clearly exercised his right to counsel. They used the fact that he was an addict as a way to wear him down as to get him to incriminate himself. The request for council doesn't even have to be clearly stated, it simply has to be understood as such.
0 likesImagine if he wasn't an addict, dude could rule the world.
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I think the way he thinks is because what he went through so the drugs he does is why he acts
92 likesI used to be a heroin addict. Your a slave to your own body. I hope he’s clean now
188 likes@Joey Spillz - damn dude, I'm happy to hear you are clean now though
94 likesHis name is Jeeeffff
11 likesCharles Morgan same mate 👋
1 likeWhy would he rule the world? o he knows to shut up. He knows how system/cops operate. Have you any idea how many times it was told to him to say nothing?
25 likesAt this point it's just common sense . and if anyone reading this thinks otherwise they are going be severely disappointed in the game of life.
@poppaluv u got words of wisdom
6 likesImagine how many low IQ people felt for these tactics.
4 likespoppaluv
4 likesSounds easy, but u would be suprised. Even cops mess up during interagations , cops know how cops work.
M VS
5 likesNot just low iq. There are different kinds of smarts.
Some peeps are too smart for their own good.
They think they can outwit the detective
@Brandon Smythe coffee is surprisingly psychoactive in large doses. As a kid i used to have the occasional coffee and it never had an effect so i always assumed the buzz was a myth. I was bored and hungover at work about a year ago and drank 2 monster energies and 4 coffees in the space of an hour and it was like a mild ecstasy/stimulant feeling. I must have chatted to 100 customers in that time and felt no awkwardness like I usually would. Maybe try it, please don't blame me if you have a heart attack.
6 likesShawn Knox ummm, no, he wouldn’t. Knowing that it’s not a good idea to talk to the cops when you’re arrested is criminal code 101.
4 likesThat’s how they get us.
0 likes@Jupiter Cyclops Yeah that's true many of the questions that police ask are misleading on purpose or there are people that want to collaborate with police because they are innocent, want to help, and end up incriminating themselves for something else. I think people in general put police on pedestal, or think that they are to going to help you because they are innocent. Police are humans and can be some of the sketchies people with authoratarian/antisocial personality traits.
3 likesWtf are you on about?
0 likesHe’d run against Trump and win.
2 likesThis better go viral
0 likesLmao that's why god make him an addict, he's too dangerous if left sane
5 likes@Vitamin.D.D.fishinsea Calling him intelligent is a bit far off from what you have just seen. It doesn't take much to be intelligent then.
0 likes@Vitamin.D.D.fishinsea Still you went from calling him "intelligent" to just "not as stupid". Just seems like an exaggeration. Don't get me wrong, I know what you mean. Poverty is a problem he created himself. Please understand that.
1 like@Vitamin.D.D.fishinsea "They decided that reality simply wasn't for them". Well that was kind of what I said. It's not intelligent to just ask for a lawyer. Imagine how many of this comment section would. I feel like you are stombling across your own words. Maybe that's just me.
0 likes@Vitamin.D.D.fishinsea I think you have the horse and cart mixed up. Few middle class addicts escape jail or poverty. The constant is the heroin, not economic status.📈
0 likesI am a recovering heroin addict on methadone and been clean for 30 months. Addicts are the most ingenious people I’ve ever been around.
6 likesCops are not good, and don’t care about justice they just want their arrest... they can’t make a “deal” and aren’t your friend. He should have dropped the second he asked for an attorney. The ADAs only care about their conviction rates.
All those doctors and pharmaceutical companies made endless money prescribing opioids then the second the DEA threatened them they cut everyone off at once. What’d they think would happen? The DEA doesn’t wanna solve the problem because they’d lose funding. Medicated assisted treatment is the best medically proven treatment for opioid addiction but they push AA which was created in the 30s. Imagine treating cancer and such the same as 100 years ago?
U voted for Trump didn't u
1 like@Lonely lane nope
0 likes1000th like (:
1 like@Vitamin.D.D.fishinsea Yes.
0 likes@crowtservo So true.
0 likes@Kasper Vestergaard well where did everything come from?
1 like@Khalil Razak What is "everything".
0 likes@Joey Spillz try coke next
0 likes@charles morgan why dyou need suboxone or subutex for crack cocaine? Bupanorphine ie subutex/suboxone is a synthetic opiate with an actual opiate blocker in it so it stops withdrawal while blocking opiates!!! ie.. Heroin! Why on earth would you want or need it because of crack cocaine????? Sound to me someone just wants to feel important and involved in this conversation! Well we're all listening, anything else you want to say???
1 like@charles morgan.
0 likesI actually highly doubt that... he'd probably be a mechanic and live in a trailer park..
0 likesManipulation is a tactical skill you gain as an addict. He may not of had the experience he got with drug seeking behavior. 🤗*The more you know*🥳
1 likeJoey Spillz god bless mane
1 likeOur Souls Are energy and It's Eternal and That This Physical realm Is Literally HELL and The Only Way To get Out of This Matrix (This False Reality) Is To get right with Yourself Internally and Spiritually
1 likewith God on a Spiritual and Conscious Level
because If You Don't Get This Life Right YOU
WILL COME BACK AND HAVE TO DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN! And It Will Be Way Harder Than when You Did this The First Time Around.
How do you truly escape Reincarnation? And
not ever come back to this realm?? By Getting Right With Yourself and God On A Very Deep High Spiritual Consciousness Level (A Higher Power of Your Understanding). How do you go about doing this? By Learning To Get To Know The Real You through God and being Alone with yourself and God and be brutally honest
with yourself. By Learning to love Yourself. By Really Praying and Meditating on a Daily basis. Educate Your Self To Real Knowledge and Have an Open Mind of Understanding and Get Rid of all Your Inner Hate,Demons all The Negative
Energy With In Yourself Because in The End it all Comes Down To You and God! All that Really
matters is the ones who truly love you and the people you try and help to wake up Spiritually and really try to get them to understand This truth which I am telling yall Right Now. The real reality is that this world is run by The Devil and The System (The Government) The People Who Really Control This Realm KNOW THIS TRUTH That run This Sick Insane Confused Backwards Society. That they Really are Devil Worshippers and Pedophiles and That THEY
(The Government/The CIA The FBI The 1%
Billionaires Who Really Control This World
do Human Trafficking and drug tracking)
@*Wockhardt Who do you believe controlled things before the conception of Christianity's Devil worshippers? Something I've never understood is the grasp of power the light allows the dark in their perception of duality. 🤷🏻♂️
1 likeHe did what everyone should do when asked anything by the police: he didn’t talk.
2 likesBrandon Smythe those are power hungry/money addicts.
0 likesMe too
0 likesDaniel Lagano dropping straight facts 💯 I couldn’t agree more with your opinions/thoughts in this thread. I just wanted to show appreciation where it’s due 👌🏽
1 likeJoey Spillz congratulations on being clean how long u been clean?
1 likeMost geniuses are addicted to something
0 likesHe wouldn't be the person he is without addiction
0 likesOk, me.
0 likesHe is literally so much smarter than the police officers its hilarious. Hope it works out for him.
0 likes@Marquis de Lafayette well said my friend
0 likesHe is like this because of drugs tho
0 likesHe still could after some recovery... I'm 7 years clean from opiates...
0 likesGoes for our society too
0 likes@Joey Spillz dude im hooked on somethin way worse than Heroin. It's called IG, I post a pic every 26 seconds
0 likes@poppaluv vote Quimby
0 likesBluu_ Ice lmao
0 likes@Unbreakable2199 im more of a Pepsi guy myself
0 likesHow does that make sense?
0 likesDude for a heroine addict he's pretty sharp.
0 likesHe seems like a guy who'd be fiercely loyal. Someone you'd want to be in good Cahoots with.
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Until he runs out of heroin... I'd hang out with him though. Better to have him on your side rather than not on your side. He seems sly AF 🤣😂
24 likesNever trust a junkie.
10 likesSomeone you can rob a bank with. I agree
3 likes@The plural is actually "asparageese". Very true. I grew up in the mountains of GA and hung out with the supposed liars, thieves and shitheads. I was never lied to, stolen from or fucked over by any of them. Those on the "other side" of society however, have been in and out of jail, on drugs, lied to my face and have almost nothing to their name 12 years later.
5 likes@MIDTNORD "on drugs"
0 likesYou mean, a junkie?
Trust me he was already feeling it. You guys watch way too many movies
0 likes@The plural is actually "asparageese". yes but you have to remember they're hooked on a drug that can cause anyone to throw their closest friends under the bus for a little bit of it
1 like@Soulplexis Oh yeah totally, but that's the illness, not the person (I'm on a big kick rn of trying-out-basing-my-logic-on the idea "behavior does not equal identity"). And even with the addiction in full swing, I'd still rank People Who Say Things Like "Never Trust A Junkie" as being generally lower on the trustworthiness scale lol. There would certainly be exceptions but, being very broad/approximate, I'd find it hard to trust someone with those kinds of ethics about categorical distrust of other people (yes I'm aware of the irony lmao).
2 likesAlso relevant, I think: In my mind "junkie" implies heroin, and speaking as someone who's been and remains close friends with a wide spectrum of tweakers, I'd trust nearly any heroin user over nearly any meth user, any day. Meth doesn't literally burn holes in one's brain, but it sure seems to do something over time to the people who do it, in terms of actually changing their personality and especially their empathy skills, when compared to other drugs (including after they go sober, when applicable ... at least this is what I've noticed in my mixed anecdotal and quasi formal exposure, anyway) ... whereas (also in my mixed non-authoritative exposure) although heroin can make people absolutely bonkers trying to get the next fix -- which, considering withdrawals can be fatal, I think is pretty understandable -- I've found that it doesn't seem to damage their sense of empathy and ability to care about relationships in the longer term. So that's part of my rationale for standing up for the people I most often hear "junkie" applied to.
... And I'd still trust any level of tweaker over "Never Trust A Junkie" people for most purposes/cases lol
@The plural is actually "asparageese". well Said Thank you 😊
1 likeSeriously, there are loads of other JCS 'inspired' channels out there but NONE of them match this level of skill in nuance and translation of the story, the characters and their motivations onto the screen.
227 likesThe original is the best I guess 😉
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Originals 19 minutes long everyone should tell JCS to bring it back!!!!!
0 likesThis guy isn't an anti hero, he's an addict who was victimized by the police. He is the hero, the cops who act friendly with him so they can hurt him are the villains. They always were cruel and sadistic, we just usually see them confronting a greater evil than themselves where here we see them abusing a man when he is at a low point in his life.
58 likesThis is a tale of a wrongfully accused suspect outsmarting overzealous police, while withdrawing no less. The cop said to Jeff "Help us".. so, they wanted Jeff to help them put him away since they already said they "know" he did it..wow. I believe Jeff, and they obviously didn't have shit on him. I wish Jeff well.
67 likesFor anyone finding themselves in this situation, watch Jeff and this is how you define yourself without a lawyer. And REMEMBER just because you ask for a LAWYER doesn’t mean your guilty of anything.
71 likesThank you for your attempt at an elaborate explanation. Here's a simpler one: Jeff is just too cool for school, and therefore automatically wins at life.
86 likes"we have evidence!" Jeff : "Like what???" best fucking part lmao, i hope jeff is alright now
90 likesIn all your videos i've never routed for the subject, but I would literally die for Jeff, I hope he's doing well
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No need for that but I always love a fan …if you truly feel this way hit me up on my channel it’s up in the description… my phone is broken right now so I can’t access the account but I’m working on getting back into it
3 likesJeffJeff is using the pause technique.. and the detective is falling right for it XD
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pause technique?
0 likesMaking long pauses, so the opposite party wants to break the uncomfortable silence and speaks, therefore revealing possibly more information
1 likeI always been wondered what would happen if the suspect used to investigator techniques against them jeff handy cap is he can't lie to investigators to get them to slip
0 likesThis man is an absolute legend
9 likesYeah, I heard this man say he needs a lawyer, wth? Is the law in this state different? To anyone out there, if you get hauled in for questioning, innocent or not, get a damn public defender and just don't talk.
1 likeI love how they’re bribing him with a coke & a butterfingers bar and he still isn’t saying anything (while drinking his coke he finessed them out of) 😂😂😂
3 likesCame for the psychological analysis spotlight, stayed for the Bad Santa review.
0 likesI keep coming back to this just for laughs 😂 boi was going through full blown withdrawals and he’s still “unbothered”😂 We should all be like Jeff
3 likesI absolutely love this guy.
0 likesAlmost perfect but he still said to much
2 likesWhen a cop says, "we have tons of evidence", they really mean we have none and need you to incriminate yourself
He really has committed robbery... He robbed them of 2 coke's.
7 likesI thought that when you ask for a lawyer they need to stop with the interrogation right away. He sat 5 more hours and the officer tried to get more info 🤷♀️
1 likeI want to know why these cops are in trouble for breaking the law they completely violated this man's right how many times did he say he wanted a lawyer how many times did he remain silent when they gave him the option and yet they still harassed him for 12 hours
0 likesIs it really legal for a Cop to hound and hound and hound and hound a suspect -- after he / she already stated they do not want to talk without a lawyer. How is that right being served when he asked to excurcise that right to remain silent, and the Cop still begs and begs and begs and begs. I mean it's' ridiculous.
6 likesThis guy seems so real. Like he’s not putting on some weird facade. He’s just done lol
0 likesI wish the best for Jeff. Fuckin' legend.
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legend? wtf...
0 likesI was an addict and junkie for 10 years also and had alot of friends like Jeff along as similarities within myself. This is one of the best interviews ever.
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What do you mean that you 'were' an addict?
0 likesJust minutes ago, Jeff live-streamed himself in a car possibly running from police. He ended the stream after he said his goodbyes, He is possibly dead.
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No. He's not. He just uploaded today
0 likesi got so happy for him when he got a job and his favorite drink coka cola but i got sad when he faced a 15 year sentence.
0 likesCop really thought he was gonna buy a confession for a coke...and then when dude wouldnt sell his freedom, got mad.
1 likeHe flat out said i want a lawyer and the detective continued to press him the second he said he wanted representation the interview should have ended
0 likesRESPECT for that priceless silence Jeff !
0 likesHope he gets the help he needs and is able to rehabilitate
0 likes“I got a lot of physical evidence” they always say that… will if they do, why interrogate the suspect? Why not charge him and take it to the court!
0 likesThis starts off hilarious because he literally just told the guy he has the right to remain silent.. then starts trying to get the guy to talk 🙄
0 likesHands down he's a legend for sure....
0 likesthe cop tryna take his coke and throw it away before he was done kinda broke my heart like damn
0 likesThought I'd write a short case study on this video. Please note that I am not qualified in this area in any way. I'm just a random guy giving his opinion. Don't take anything I say too seriously without fact-checking first. Here goes.
1 likeI don't believe that Jeff is guilty of armed robbery. Let's have a look at a few reasons why. Jeff has control throughout the interrogation process. His body stance ranges from:
• Confident (spread legs, laid back)
• Defensive. He places one leg high above his other knee, with his foot pointed at the detective. This indicates a feeling of discomfort towards the person he is interacting with. Note: Some people claim that this is in fact the opposite. This position may also mean that the person Is competitive, dominant and relaxed. Either way, this position is not detrimental to Jeff as you will later see.
• Aggressive, he leans forwards towards the interrogator to close the distance between them at certain points.
Confidence can be faked but here's the thing. A lot of guilty suspects try to appear confident. They will do their best to look chill, composed, even bored. They think this shows they're not worried about anything, since they want you to believe they are innocent. The problem with that is that people who try to portray a false image of themselves, most often over compensate. This leads to the individual looking "unnatural" and gives the observer a feeling that something is not right. On top of that, their calm is very ill-suited to the situation that they're in. If you were accused of a crime you did not commit you'd be anything BUT calm and you'd be in strong denial the whole time. This is what Jeff does. He is confident, but not overly so. He looks genuine and actively denies the accusations while constantly challenging the detective's alleged evidence.
As for his defensive stance, it's natural since Jeff is a drug addict facing a policeman.
Notice at minute 6:34 when Jeff confronts the detective. His stance is no longer defensive. He is leaning forward, looking straight at the detective while presenting his defence. He speaks with determination, making the detective change his stance to an aggressive one (where he was leaning forward towards Jeff) to a strongly defensive one (laying back, one leg high above his knee). Jeff cuts off the detective multiple times and is in complete control of the situation, so much so that the detective ASKS "Let me read those rights for you, ok?". This could have been an attempt to break the tention and shut down Jeff's challenge.
Seeing how they're getting nowhere with the interrogation, the next detective attempts a bluff by telling Jeff they have incriminating evidence against him. This is meant to at least lower the suspects guard and confidence, if not to produce a confession outright. How do I know it's a bluff?
When policemen bluff, they will say something very unspecific such as "We already have evidence against you. We know you did it. The question is why?" or "There is video footage of you commiting the crime and eyewitness testimonies". At this point this could all be true but everything falls apart when the suspect confronts the policeman about it. Notice in this video when the detective bluffs, Jeff challenges his claims, causing the detective to be taken aback and struggle to give a response at one point.
Observe minute 10:41. The detective says "I got a lot of physical evidence" as he leans forwards towards Jeff to increase the pressure and impose authority. As soon as Jeff confidently replies "Like what?" the detective immediately leans back and stutters. At minute 10:53 the detective tries again by saying "There's only a couple of pieces of evidence I'm missing". He gave up control completely at this point. He basically admitted to not having enough evidence for a conviction, which puts Jeff in a very strong position. He calmly replies "Name them." [the 2 pieces of evidence]. Notice how in this sequence, the detective brings his knee up to his chest and "hugs it". Not sure what this means, but to me it looks like a highly defensive move. That man looks anything but confident.
He then attempts to BARGAIN with the suspect. "You give me a little bit, I give you a little bit. I give you one of my pieces of evidence, you give me a little something".
He ends up just refusing to show Jeff the "incriminating evidence" he has against him.
There are more details I could have gone into, but I've been writing for a while and I feel like you get the point :)
9:08 Jeff, "I need a f*ckin' lawyer."
7 likesInterrogating officer, 😶
His obsession with the coke is sad; addicts going through withdrawal are usually dependent on sweets and cigarettes when drugs aren’t an option.
1 likeSay what you want about Jeff, but he is Mr Cool in this video! He knocks this out like a mob boss!
0 likesWhy did they do another round of questioning after he called for a lawyer?
1 likeHonestly curious.
Crazy that its not mandatory for these interrogation people to know the rights by heart.
0 likes"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”— Jeff.
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Cryptic yet threatening
0 likesThis guy is awesome
1 likeAt least he knew his rights. He stayed silent and just wanted a coke lmao.
1 likeWhen Jeff asks to go back to his cell, and the clip jump cuts to # of hours later back in the room, it just makes me chuckle lol what a chad
0 likesMatthew McConauhey deserves an Oscar for the act here
0 likesHow can they continue to question him after he already ask for a lawyer u ask... that's why they keep reading his rights over
0 likes"Under arrest for robbery". By the most outrageous thieves, liars and law-breakers on the planet.
0 likesJeff, and most people who stand up to this kind of interogation is considered an anti-hero because the cards are so stacked against him, the police can manipulate in many ways, including keeping you handcuffed in a small room for many hours, lying to you about what information they have, or lying to you about what they can do for you if you cooperate. Studies have shown that when police children are arrested they are taught not to cooperate - they know the game. Anyone who can keep his mouth shut is a hero in my book.
1 likeThis guy is awesome! Too bad he doesn't realize how awesome.
0 likesDid this officer literally just tell a handcuffed person he is interrogating.
0 likes"Well, now you've handcuffed me!"
How do we not know what happened to Jeff? You even linked his patreon? Im really hoping for the guy, he's been through some shit, and still keeps it together through something like that
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“The legend continues”
0 likesIt’s in the description
They wanted to get him going thru withdrawals so he would be desperate enough to confess 🤣🤣
0 likes1:42
0 likesDamn Jeff seems like a cool fucking dude I wanna be like him
1:44
Never mind then
this guy is apparently doing fine, idk where it is, but someone found his YouTube channel and hed been uploading recently. just mundane stuff, nothing polished, nothing dark.
0 likes🤣 man this dude is hilarious
0 likesJeff the only one that managed to get himself ice cold cokes while in jail LOL
0 likesIn some ways: be more like Jeff
0 likesIn some ways: don't be like Jeff
I route for Jeff in this specific scenario
COPS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS IN INTERROGATIONS
You have the right to remain silent… you understand what I read to you Jeff? So he practices his rights, what did they expect?
0 likes11:11 you can see the withdrawals beginning
2 likesHoly shit this dude was hilarious
0 likes“no usually i’m the prick” “you look like a prick” LMFAOOOO 😂😂
0 likesI hope that he get paid for that product placement... Such a badass
0 likesI was hooked on opiates for 6 years ..last 3 were on heroin. Its no joke. I'm lucky enough to have been able to have funded my addiction which was $200 every day. Never stole never committed any crimes. I was lucky enough to have family 320 miles away that I bailed out to and was able to quit cold turkey. I am blessed buy rest assured it was the hardest shit I've ever been through. I feel for anyone in this struggle and I'm here to talk if you need someone.
0 likes“Listen I only came back up here for the coke” 🤣
1 likeI feel simphathy for Jeff 😔
0 likesJeff is a legend
1 like"How long you been doing heroin?"
0 likes" Long Time Buddy"
🤣🤣🤣
I don’t understand. He said he wanted an attorney and he keeps being questioned? I thought that wasn’t allowed.
0 likesDetective :I’m normally the prick
0 likesJeff: you look like a prick !
🤣🤣🤣🤣
So. This kept up after Jeff said "I want a lawyer"?
0 likesHe is just wasting the cop's time and money just so he can have a free coke🤣🤣🤣
0 likes“The only reason I came up here was to get a fucking coke” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes‘You the good cop?’
0 likes‘No, usually I’m the prick’
‘You look like a prick’
RIP
Walter White is another great example of an antihero.
1 likeIs nobody gonna talk about how he still ask for the butterfinger at the end lol
0 likesLike the way he uses movies "fiction" to justify Jeff
0 likescouldn’t imagine going through heroin withdrawal in cuffs jeez
0 likesHahaha!! They said Jeff is possibly on the marketing team for Coca-Cola lol 🤣
2 likesATTENTION TO ALL
0 likesjeff has his own channel called legend of Jeff and you can tell its him. Give him mad views.
Officer: how long u been using heroin
0 likesJeff: long time buddy 😱😂
8:20 officer “do you understand the rights ive read to you😃?” jeff mumbles “no😐” Officer “huh🤨” Jeff “ yeah😛” LMFAO PLZ
0 likesEverything you say and do will be twisted around and used against you.
1 likeHe asked for a lawyer. Why are they still asking questions?
0 likesI love watching this 😂 is that weird? 🤷♀️ x
0 likesThey probably got him to confess when the withdrawal became unbearable
0 likesAt 11:42 there's a cut. The original version of this video was several minutes longer and mentioned a gun that was found at Jeff's friend Aaron's house. Apparently this was edited and then reuploaded. I wonder if JCS was concerned that the algorithm didn't like videos that mention guns...
0 likesClearly, he asked for a lawyer.
0 likesIf Silence is Golden , Jeffs tounge is Silver
1 likeActually, considerring his addiction, possibility of hope for him is prison. Freedom sounds like a death sentence for heroin addict, sooner or later.
0 likesDamn I want to buy this heroin addict a can of coke. can we get a ko-fi for this guy?
0 likesI Didn't Think I'd Have to Process This Much Information From One Video....
0 likesLMFAO this would be such a good ad for Coca Cola if he actually started working for them
0 likesI watched Bad Santa because of this video. Really good film.
0 likesI’ll tell your parole officer your a nice guy ……WHAT
1 likeThey should use this for training purposes. lol
0 likesWhere’s his lawyer - f’n cops - Jeff’s the man !!!
0 likesThere's a lesson here, but I'm not 100 per cent sure exactly what it is.
1 likeI’m starting to think he also has a coke problem too.
0 likesAm I gonna get that coke or is that just another fairytale hahaha so many quotable lines from jeff
1 likeisnt the burden of evidence on the state? chapelle taught me that shit
1 likeI actually believe he didnt do it
1 likeGo Jeff 👍
0 likeswe stan jeff btw
0 likesGET THE MAN A BUTTERFINGER!!
0 likesOk I love that guy lmao
1 like“I’m done man fuck this the only reason I came up here was to get a fuckin coke”🤣🤣
0 likesWhat!? You didn't just put Bad Santa as the Anti Hero. I can understand Travis Bickle naturally, but Deadpool is absolutely the quintessential anti hero lol.
0 likesI'm only into this 2 minutes, but the narrator says "Jeff already knows...". How can you comment in the operation of someone else's mind? Theoretically, if he's a hero in addict, maybe there are times when he hasn't processed the information told to him by the cops. Or maybe he doesn't understand the consequences of his behavior on heroine? Idk...maybe I'm just a school psychologist who watches too much Judge Judy! 😉
0 likesEdit: Great, they actually address this! 👍🏼
Thanks for the coke ...
1 likeOh I'm not talking to you.
Wam bam thanks for the coke, put me back in the cell.
😂 if only he put his smarts to something useful
Shoulda used the joker . He’s the perfect anti hero
0 likesNot siding with the criminal or anything but the whole "you've probably heard this before" comment(when reading his rights) was kinda bullshit - even if he HAD heard it before
0 likesI don't get why this guy is so glorified and why the video calls him an anti hero. Am I missing some background here ?
0 likesHe asked for a lawyer
1 likeFor anyone wondering Jeff has a YouTube channel he updates frequently called, Jeff The Legend.
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I went over there and told him about this video the couple months back and he didn't know about it lol
1 like@John Doe Thats kinda cool man. I'll bet he was like, hell ya I'm a legend.
0 likesabsence of evidence creates a bumpy conversation.
0 likesDidn't he ask for a lawyer? Should have stopped the interview then.
0 likes"wham bam put me back in the cell."
1 likeSurely you could have afforded us a "Five Hours Later..." clip! lol
0 likesThis man is secretly playing them just to get free cokes and leave
0 likesHe ain't signing nothing, no he don't understand his rights, give the man a coke and put him back in his cell.
0 likesThe definition of BASED
0 likesHe seem innocent
0 likesThis reminds me of Christian Bale’s character on the fighter
0 likesDetectives fucked up....Jeff would've confessed for that butterfinger
0 likes"Thanks for the Coke!"
0 likesAm I under arrest? lol he's sitting there in scrubs and handcuffs I'd say it looks like you are
0 likesDamn right he finished that Coke
0 likestheres nothing like when you dont give a s...t about everything haha aha
1 likeThat’s not Jeff, it’s Dwayne Stomp from Blacktooth
0 likesRumor has is that Jeff works for the corporate marketing team for Coca Cola. Riight.
0 likesIM ON MY FUCKING LUNCH BREAK, OKAY!?
0 likesThis is the longest Coke commercial I’ve ever seen
0 likesDoes heroin increase your IQ?!? I may need to get on that.
0 likes3:50 hehe that kid is smiling
0 likesI'm not gonna lie...i did like this guy
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Besides the horrible drug addiction he seems like a good enough character to at least be next to in a public setting lol
94 likesstanley oleyte I don’t think drug addiction should be viewed as having bad character.
128 likesNate I’m not saying he is horrible just the whole addiction aspect but as a person he seems very reasonable and coherent
22 likesCAPTAIN CAPLOCKS I blame d.a.r.e and other shit programs
6 likes@Beautiful Roses he maintained decency and respect. Notice that he says thank you for the coke and throws his tissues in the bin after he blows his nose. He hasn't lost touch with basic deceny. It's the little things that give hope
24 likesBeautiful Roses yes..seems belligerence here is a character trait to be admired..🇨🇦🇨🇦
1 likeThought was me alone
0 likes@Christian Oyler also, just a slight addition, we have no evidence that Jeff ever committed an actual crime, besides using heroin which is a victimless crime and shouldn't even be a crime at all imo
4 likesThe man the myth the legend.
3 likesThis guy understands things way better than most people.
CAPTAIN CAPLOCKS I’m a heroin addict / dependent on opioids daily for 6 years now and I would never rob a place to stay well so it has nothing to do with heroin, ur right. Drugs don’t kill people or commit robberies. Stupid people do. I’m so used to law enforcement and society spitting on us and calling us scum... I don’t doubt that Jeff is probably innocent... they’re just prejudice as fuck. It’s funny that people don’t even know or can tell that someone is using opioids. Most of us r functional. It’s like saying all alcoholics r drunks on the street. The war on drugs has to stop and big pharma has to take responsibility for a majority of the epidemic... I’m tired of ignorance. But we all know the USA takes forever to fucking get a clue and change.
3 likesMe too... me too...
0 likes" im not gonna lie" this preface needs to disappear.
0 likes@Nate You misinterpreted
0 likesWe
0 likes10:55
0 likes@Meoo How does a person doing drugs impact anyone else? It's a victimless "crime"
0 likes@Meoo The same thing can be said for alcohol, so do you believe alcohol should be illegal as well?
0 likesAlso I responded fast because I've been building my case for why drugs should be legal for a while and I haven't been able to find anyone to disagree with until now
@Meoo Oh sorry I didn't mean to I guess I'll just retype it from memory
0 likes"Drugs can be used responsibly, it's not like you snort a single atom of cocaine and you start bouncing around like a monkey, much like how a sip of alcohol doesn't make you black-out drunk. Also a thing I forgot to mention was, it's not illegal to do things that are bad for you, suicide/self-harm can be used as a metaphor for this, I obviously wouldnt recommend you do them, much like how you shouldn't do drugs, but you still are/should be allowed to"
@Meoo also, because making drugs illegal means we'll stop throwing non-violent, recreational drug users in prison with hardened criminals, that simple Pavlovian Conditioning obviously would lead them down a life of more serious crime, including harming others, which drug use doesn't do. Notwithstanding the fact that non-violent drug arrests also make you ineligible for many jobs and, in most cases, ruins your life, key word, non-violent
0 likes@Meoo I wouldn't recommend committing suicide or self-harming either, but do I think those acts should be illegal? No. If I don't condone something it doesn't mean it should be illegal, I wouldn't condone using alcohol as a crutch to deal with sadness, but do I think it should be illegal? No! Absolutely not! You can't just make things illegal because you don't like them, it comes down to whether or not the things being made illegal are directly harmful to others by the people perpetrating them, and drug use does not fit that description
0 likes@Meoo Yeah ofc, but by "harm" I don't mean necessarily physical harm, but ANY sort of harm, like financially or mentally (emotionally is a no tho because that can have many triggers unrelated to crimes), and drug use doesn't cause any of those, drug use has no direct ill effect on anyone besides the user, and that's the user's own personal choice
0 likes@Meoo So can alcohol, or over-the-counter medication, or just having schizophrenia, or just being born poor with no opportunities in life, drugs don't cause you to commit crime, perhaps it can exacerbate it, but multiple studies have shown that drug use doesn't inherently cause criminality, all the examples listed above are the same as drugs in that regard
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0 likes@Meoo Then that would seemingly beg the question, why isn't alcohol illegal? By your very own logic, drugs and alcohol should be either both legal or both illegal, which one would you prefer?
0 likes@Meoo You "think" alcohol is less addictive? No, it's not, drugs and alcohol are equally addictive, alcohol is literally a drug in itself (see Foundation for a Drug-Free-World and the Orlando Recovery Center for sources on that), the only reason alcohol is legal is because it has been widely consumed for millenniums, whereas drugs are a phenomenon of recent centuries, if alcohol is legal, and alcohol is a drug, then drugs should be legal as well
0 likesSoooooooo did I! 😀
0 likesWe have a neighbour that has an addiction and you can tell other people steer clear of him because of how he looks and we live in a family orientated neighbourhood so he sticks out but he’s always been nice and polite to us. It’s one of those “if it wasn’t for the addiction... “ things
0 likesI like u too
0 likesI have never seen such a naturally intelligent person. He could have been so much better.
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looks to me like he's living his best life
9 likesNO he's just used to being in this situation
12 likesHe simply refused to answer those questions because he knew they could be used against him. From this to saying is the most naturally intelligent person you've ever seen is a big stretch
23 likes@Talete
1 likethat’s not what he said though
@ratmasked he literally said "I have never seen such a naturally intelligent person"
2 likes@Talete yeah but the way he was able to handle it was incredible especially thought heroine withdrawal
14 likes@Rafael Gonzalez you can't compare being accused of murder without having any experience with the criminal system and being accused of robbing after you already were arrested before and know how all these things work
0 likes@GUCCIpotato being addicted to heroine doesn't mean you are a zombie 24/7. But yeah I guess we have different opinions and that's it, but I don't think he was incredible
1 like@Talete I guess you are correct but I think that it would take a lot of mental fortitude. So maybe I phrased my comment wrong.
1 like@Rafael Gonzalez I was talking about the "other people" you saw in this channel. But look, I have no intention to start an argument with someone who wants to say getting away with murder is the same as getting away with robbery. You are perfectly able to understand why it doesn't make sense by yourself and I don't have to explain it to you, and this will only turn into a pointless discussion that leads to nowhere. That's why, whatever you will say next, I won't answer you anymore. Have a good day
0 likes@GUCCIpotato Yeah it certainly requires a lot of that
1 likeAnd yeah that man could certainly have a much better life if it wasn't for drugs :/
He handled it incredibly well because he’s a heroin addict in a country where drug users are treated like criminals. He’s probably been in hundreds of these interviews and picked up a few things, not natural intelligence
0 likesCop: “I have a lot of evidence”
659 likesJeff: “Like what”
Cop: “I know what the evidence is, I want to make sure you know”
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100th like thank me later
3 likesAtlas -Oh yea what’s her name?
23 likes-You won’t know her anyway she goes to a different school.
That second coke was delicious
0 likesI think the reason people attach to an anti hero is when an anti-hero has a palpable sense of humor. Jeff's situation is hilarious in the way he reacts to everything, which makes people like him off the bat.
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Yes he also had a very comical way of defying the cops. When they try to coax something out off him, he immediately calls their bluff and tells them to their face what their real objective is. It’s funny and at the same time pretty tragic that he know these techniques so well.
39 likes@13:12 oh i love his smart ass answers! and he doesn't antagonize or try to cause trouble. any trouble he is experiencing is the waste of time these officers are spending using their 1001 techniques book.
9 likesI agree. When the narrator stated all those other things, I was like "wait, what? Nah bro. We like him because he's fluffin hilarious."
6 likeshe is so relatable especially abt the coke and a butterfinger. lol
3 likesHis accent and the way he just cares about cole
0 likesehhh, its the legend of jeff the junkie.
1 likeIt is remarkable that this guy, who is probably going through withdraw, is able to have a coherent conversation with detectives multiple times. It's astonishing that any evidence obtained through these interviews with this man would be admissible in a court of law. He isn't fit. He asked for a lawyer.
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They tried to use statements i made while i was high against me one time on a robbery charge... i was soooo gone off of xanax, and i was dope sick at the same time, and the cops came up with this crazy scenario to get a response out of me, and without thinking i said"hell nah i didnt do nothing like that, i just said i had a knife i never pulled it out" and baam, I claimed coercion. One charge was dropped the other dropped down to misdeamonr theft. IDK if it was because of that, but i ended up doing about 6 months for 2 robbery charges.. needless to say i have changed my frickin life around.
4 likesJeff has definitely binge watched JCS - Criminal Psychology.
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No, but he's a street smart dope fiend. I'm in recovery so I've been there. It is bullshit they kept him in there for so many hours after asking for a lawyer. A tactic to get him talking but he knows it's b.s. even while starting to go through withdrawals which I can tell you from experience is the worst...soon enough he'll be puking all over the detective and shitting his pants.
6 likesJeff big brain 🧠
1 likewhere the hell is that lawyer he asked for??
0 likesNo.1 rule.... Never talk to police officers without your lawyer
1051 likesCriminal or not, keep that in mind, I mean, you all!
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End of discussion!💋💨
10 likesEXACTLY!! I am a person that was never in trouble my whole life...but some people I was around got me in a bad situation, and I shouldn't have allowed it. Being "green" to how this all works & the unfortunate other instance similar after--(plus few domestic violence sit w my ex he got off every time) I read the police reports I swear they were involved in a completely different case--or they were on drugs when recounting what I had said etc. Always had some very wrong info in the accounts that had it not been so serious it would have been laughable.
16 likesLater, I saw different lawyers on yt BEG people to say they will cooperate fully AFTER meeting w their attorney.
The police even as nice as pie get things mixed up, wrong, or it will be turned around on you so fast!
I learned my lesson the hard way having never had to deal with it till my late 40's. *Please get a lawyer before saying anything..be polite & cooperate after speaking w attorney!!
I sure wish i had known!!
I may be the first person that ever used the right to remain silent after being read my rights. It was 1966 and I was in 5he Army. The company commander was going to punish me for being away from the motor pool and read me my rights. He then asked me a question and I somehow had the sense to invoke my rights. End of conversation. I’m simply amazed how many idiots talk their way into a cell.
8 likesAlso remember, if they don't have warrant on you, do not let them get into your property such as; cars, houses, lands etc
5 likesThat is the main thing that can drop a case the reason they ask things is bc they don’t know anything
1 likeGeneral flynn now knows that
0 likesNO. DO NOT TALK TO POLICE EVER, EVEN WITH A LAWYER.
3 likesEspecially for all you noncriminals out there. Police want a body if it's the actual assailant all the better if not case still closed.
3 likesAnd NEVER plead guilty
1 likeTrue. I have experienced it today. Traffic stop and they are nutritious at flipping the situation against you. Pretending to your friend until they get you to confess and then reality hits fines 2 points 👎
0 likesLesson learned shut the f up!
You are your own enemy. In my case $200 fine and points. ☹
i made the mistake of talking to the police and waiving my right to remain silent and told them the whole story. only spent a week in juvie and got out w/o a charge so I'm a lucky case. But growing up my uncle had always told me to always ask for a lawyer before answering questions. Should've listened. But I'm lucky i had a fantastic attorney appointed to me. Could've ruined my chances to join the Army and I'm glad it didn't.
1 likeThat one difficult kid in school impossible to crack no matter how many teachers they throw at him lmao
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Good. Not everyone should crack. This guy is innocent until proven guilty anyway. Good for him he didn't fall for the dirty ass cop mind games.
28 likes@skullhart Do you happen to know if he was truly innocent? I tried looking this guy up couldn’t find any news on his situation
1 like@MetalizedButt does it matter ? He showed how it's done
0 likes@bLackstar err it kinda does to me just because I’m curious that’s all
6 likesDat was me
0 likesThis entire interview would be thrown out in court if this guy could afford a legit lawyer. He asked for a lawyer. That should have been the end of it. Everything said after that should be thrown out. Guilty or not, there are rules. And the cops are breaking them.
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ITs even being recorded, you know, on a flash drive, with the possibility it might be cremated...
4 likesI think you may be confused on how the police acrually work lol
6 likesDude... it’s called “statements outside of Miranda”. These statements can be used to impeach past, future testimony or to buttress direct evidence. C’mon, Player
7 likes@Jake Clark Looks to me like they left him in the interview room for what looked like hours. Long after he asked for a lawyer. Picture that in front of a jury. The cops exploited his addiction and let him start going through withdrawals in order to make him as uncomfortable as possible so he would make spontaneous statements that would restart the conversation. He said he wanted to go back to his cell and not talk to the cops within a minute or so of the first cop arriving. They just sweated him out. It worked. That doesn't mean it's right.
11 likesIn case you’re ever in a situation like this you have to say: I invoke my right to remain silent/get an attorney. It’s key to do that, because in some cases when a suspect simply said nothing it was taken as evidence in front of the court. The police can twist and turn your statements and say that you didn’t make a clear indication that you were invoking your rights.
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thanks fo that 🙏
1 likeLet’s hope we never get into a situation like that 😅
18 likesThe problem is most people, while having thr right to remain silent, lack the ability. Cops know this and use it. If I am ever questioned by the police for anything outside of maybe a traffic stop, the only thing I will say is I want a lawyer. They will certainly use one. They will record everything you say. Get a lawyer and shut up.
17 likesme myself yeah that’s absolutely right. Just because you’re silent doesn’t mean they can’t ask questions and keep you there for hours on end
4 likesdon't care mannnn we tryna get this money
0 likesGee thanks but I hope I'll never be in that situation 😅
0 likesMerrik no problem my guy
1 likedon't care tell that to the innocent, falsely accused, and coerced “confessed” inmates on death row.
4 likesJeff is innocent of the crime he is being accused of. What ever he did on his past. He served his time. He can't be guilty his whole life.
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People especially the law judge you on past actions
5 likes@Kelvin Irawan 💀💀😭
2 likesi feel like both those end results are too ridiculous to be true. he probably just went back to his life as an addict, obviously wasn't charged with a crime here because theres no way he would've made bail (meaning he was absolutely right that they didn't have shit on him whatsoever), and hopefully stayed far fucking away from any pigs trying to do this to him again. i feel like he's out there doing okay, one addict to another, gettin high and gettin by.
0 likesJeff, the smartest interviewee EVER to be questioned by authorities. He is forever imbedded in my consciousness in how to act under questioning. I’ve watched this three times and laughed more each time!
111 likesLegend has it, Jeff quit Heroin and is now addicted to Coke.
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5 likesHahaha ain't it the truth. Drop the dope, pick up the coke 😬
36 likesTechnically better than heroine in terms of its detriment on one’s life.
19 likes🤣🤣
0 likesSee what u did there 🤣🤣😂😂
2 likes@al30 7Antony Actually sugar is far worse than heroin, it's the junk they put in heroin that can be bad. Sugar is the most addictive substance on Earth and we are all hooked, line and sinker. Last I checked heart disease and obesity kill millions a year in the U.S. while opiate overdoes are in the thousands.
7 likesElectronic if you seriously think sugar is more addictive than heroin then I have bad news for you...
25 likes@Electronic Bruh
3 likes@Alina Tokaeva Everybody is addicted to sugar, how can you say it's less addiciting than heroin? Hardly anyone takes heroin. And those that take Heroin also take sugar.
5 likesThis argument is mine to win, anyone want to actually step up and try?
4 likesThat's a really genius one
0 likes👌
0 likes@Local Milk They give newborns sugar laden pacifiers in the OR to calm them down, hooked from the moment they enter the world. Sugar is actually an opiate analgesic, affecting dopamine receptors aka a painkiller. Sugar also reduces withdrawal symptoms.
5 likes@Electronic heroin is psychologically addictive
2 likesLocal Milk soda i think is the biggest issue how many people get water instead of soda when they get mcdonalds or other fast food is p bad
2 likes@Electronic All human experience is psychological.
2 likesJokes about people’s addiction is not funny. Addiction is a serious disease.
2 likes@Electronic Jesus Christ, Iamverymart much? Calm down, kid. What'd you take, one psychology class in HS?
2 likesElectronic while i do i agree sugar is as addictive as actual white coke , what choice do we have to leave it , its in everything we eat even fruits make sugar since we modified so much . Our whole society are sugar junkies but i doubt we can leave it since we were introduced since birth to it , if we stop eating sugar our bodies would probably shut down and kill us like some drug withdrawls. Even medical science has integrated the belief that having too low sugar is bad and not at all withdrawal symptoms . Anyways my point being is we are lost at this point .
1 likeHow did he afford that? Is he an informant now? So many plot twist with this one comment I can think of...
0 likes@Electronic that's bs, it depends on the substance. heroin, on one hand, is a physically addictive drug. if you stopped consuming sugar, your body will naturally flush the sugar out of your system. if you stopped consuming heroin without a methodone or suboxone, your body would literally shut down internally and let the immune system take over and try to flush the bad out as much as it can. that's why people puke so much during detox. your body after using heroin literally craves it like water after an exercise. and also, don't talk about peoples addictions and how there are "barely any opioid deaths" when the us is literally in it's worst state for opioids since the introduction of synthetic opioids. well, I think I won this one ;)
6 likesSo from what I've deduced from these comments ... SUGAR is the true gateway drug
3 likes@AFS007 any substance can be a gateway drug if it is abused
1 like@FricknScoob_ In all seriousness, I think you're right for the most part. However, my comment was more about how so many ppl got really worked up about sugar and missed the initial 'play on words' joke that was made.
0 likes@AFS007 that makes sense lol
1 likeI was a cokaholic since I was born
0 likesI think it’s wrong to even try to get a confession from someone who is going through withdrawals... that’s almost akin as getting a ‘forced confession’. If this is the way police deals with these situations.. that’s just very wrong, give them the methadon so they can think clearly. Any -other way I don’t see how anything a person says under these conditions, could be taken to court? Or a ‘written confession” under these circumstances. Why do you think people often turn to criminality, ... to get their drugs as they are in cycle. Would they normally do this? Addiction robs people of morality, and or making the right decisions. They would do anything and yes the withdrawal is horrible and lasts for weeks. I don’t know if it’s legal, but it should be inadmissible, evidence the police got from people either under influence or in withdrawal.
2 likes@Dank Vibes there are children born with parents that are addicted to drugs, and then the kid is addicted and can't live without it and has withdraws at birth everyone just needs to do a little more research because regardless of what it is addiction works the same. It trains your body to need it, and not be able to go without it. That's why withdraws exist.
0 likes@FricknScoob_ Umm, your body doesn't naturally flush heroin out though? What are you getting at?
0 likes@Ziyania Monroe I know man, I knew people wouldn't be able to handle this, there are multiple studies that back up what I've said regarding artificial sugar. And yeah, I've read the boring scientific papers, I'm not the hero of this story. Just an annoying messenger telling people they're wrong, I don't really care if they believe otherwise. Ignorance is bliss.
3 likes@Ziyania Monroe first off, I was born into an addictive family so I'm about 110% sure I know what I'm talking about when it comes to drugs and the bad side behind them. second off, if you took the sugar out of your diet, it is way less harmful for your body then if you've been on heroin half your life then quit. if a man was 330lb, had nothing but absolute dogshit in their diet and had never eaten healthy their whole life, they could still make a complete change in their lives and lose all of the weight and lower their blood pressure and cholesterol with determination and effort. with heroin, if you had been addicted for a multitude of yrs, you won't just be able to stop at the drop of a pen. yes sugar has withdrawals but unless you've been a heroin addict and have been through the withdrawals you have no place to speak
1 like@FricknScoob_ first off was I speaking to you? Did I tag you? Exactly. So ur comment to me is super irrelevant. U can keep commenting back but u won't get much from me cuz I wasn't directly speaking to you in the first place❤
0 likes@Electronic Tbh, I don't wanna keep this going because it's a waste of time. But, I feel like I have to as well. First off, when have you cited any source at all or provided any link or data? And please tell me when you put me in my place when I shut down your entire argument earlier with direct fact? And it is extremely obvious, after how oblivious you are to the actual extent of heroin use and the fact that it affects a person directly a lot worse than sugar can in a shorter amount of time. Does sugar constipate a person for WEEKS and does feces build up until you literally explode from the inside? No, but heroin does. I think I'm done here ;)
2 likes@FricknScoob_ Millions die from obesity every year, sugar is the biggest contributing factor by far because heart disease, sugar AND obesity are all interlinked. Opioid deaths are in the thousands vs millions, again thousands vs millions, need I say it again? It's a silent killer, kills you from the inside out with little warning, sure it takes time for the sugar to make its mark but it is merciless in the damage it does. These studies are widely available, there are Youtube videos about it, sure okay, maybe not a direct comparison between opiates and sugar but how overlooked artificial sugars are in society, is criminal. And the fact that every heroin addict is also a sugar addict proves my case about which is more endemic of the two. And for the record, I am closely linked with addicts in my life, I won't admit to anything but I know more than you would hope for me to admit. Take it easy and don't assume anything about anybody, fair warning. Cheers.
1 like@Electronic you know what? as much as I hate to admit I'm wrong, I am. I just was defending that because of personal reasons that I'm not going to say, as you didn't. have a good one man
2 likes@FricknScoob_ I hate being right, and I'm sad the discussion is over. Thanks for being a bigger man than I initially perceived.
3 likesBoom..u now own the internet..take a bow son
1 likeBad part is the coke will kill him quicker than the heroin!
0 likesJust Pepsinow
0 likesHe probably died and decomposed longtime ago.
0 likes@Electronic say 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 not all people some if us are not into sugar that much.
0 likes@Electronic the reason there is more deaths with sugar is because heroine is kinda illegal and harder to get than sugar
0 likesSo basically, I've watched an ad for Heroin, Coke and Bad Santa.
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2 likesYep lol
1 likeand Butterfinger
4 likesJust another Friday night
2 likesIm inclining more towards the Butterfinger... Do we get a sequel of this where he get this Butterfinger?
3 likesIncredible movie
2 likesjajja!!!
0 likesYou might also like Crystal Meth and Breaking bad.
1 likeWhere’s the guy’s lawyer? He clearly requested one.
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its saul good, man
216 likesI wonder if thats why theybkeep reading his rights, maybe it nullifies the request
40 likesThis is something that is always misunderstood. Saying something like, "I need a lawyer," or, "I want a lawyer" is not a specific enough assertion of rights and is a loophole that officers often use to prevent suspects from getting access to a lawyer. You must say, "I am asserting my right to an attorney, and I am asserting my right to remain silent" for officers to be constitutionally bound to provide you with one.
154 likesA L you're wrong dude. And the fact that he didn't sign the paper saying that he understood his rights so nothing that he even said would have been up holdable in court regardless in the fact that he did say I need a lawyer I want a lawyer suspects are not attorneys nor do he need speak in a attorney languages to articulate that he needs a lawyer he said it more than three times that's why they sent a different Detective in there when he asked for I another soda but he played the s*** out of them and they violated his rights which was mainly probably the cause for his release in all of that video evidence is the other reason why his case probably will get thrown out thanks to the stupid overzealous uneducated tyrants their job is to make the arrest collect the evidence presented to the district attorney and prosecutor and let the system work it's self but no 9 out of 10 times these cops have to do what you're not supposed to do and be judge jury and executioner well after they are part of the process is done I hope Jeff found some help got his self-clean I end it with this they had him around a firearm that was similar to the firearm that was used in a robbery so apparently the store clerk was not willing to testify which also means there's no camera and that store or on any door or house from the store to Jeff's friends house but they still do have a gun with no fingerprints on it so now they really don't have anything but a stolen gun off the streets probably they had so much evidence Jeff would have never got that first can of Coke or II or that Butterfinger good night if you don't talk to Cops you don't go to jail.
57 likes@bobby sanders tldr
10 likes@Jay Harter no, "i am asserting my right to an attorney"
3 likes@A L You are asserting stuff equivalent to how "sovereign citizens" behave. Acting as if a few buzzwords will protect you legally. That isn't how the world works. There is no magic words doctrine with requesting a lawyer. Cops are not lawyers trying to extrapolate loop holes. They are there to get you to keep talking. The more you talk the more likely you are to a) incriminate yourself of the crime you were detained/arrested for, b) perjure yourself, or c) admit to a crime you were not previously arrested/detained for.
23 likesSimply request a lawyer and shut up. That's all that is required of you. You don't have to do it with a specific word order or as a key phrase. Just shut up. If you say nothing then they have to gasp rely on the evidence in order to convict you.
A L I’ve been interrogated before, it doesn’t fucking matter how you say it. If you tell them you want a lawyer you get a lawyer. If Jeff even gave a fuck he would’ve said it more than one time. And also if you say you want a lawyer and stop talking what are they gonna do? Sit there and stare at you? No, they’re gonna get you a lawyer so they have more of a chance to get evidence out of you rather than you sitting there silent. They’d be hoping your lawyer fucks up and you say something stupid. TLDR: It doesn’t matter how you say it.
14 likesJacob Smith exactly lol. I don’t know what that clown was thinking you don’t have to say “pretty please may I get a lawyer I’m using my rights!”
4 likes@A L please dont go spreading wrong infos about anything, people like you makes me not believe most of the things i see on internet that i dont know of.
4 likes@bobby sanders there's one period in that entire comment
6 likesSo officers can't use loopholes?
0 likesOnce he asks for a lawyer, anything that is said after that point becomes inadmissible in court. That is why the cop said “you have hand cuffed me”. Obviously, they don’t have a hundreds of defense lawyers sitting at the police department waiting for someone to request a lawyer. So they just send him back to his cell until Jeff decides to speak with the detective. Maybe he got on the phone with a lawyer, in which case that lawyer would just tell him to stay quiet no matter what happens. Jeff is the one who decided to talk to detectives, they didn’t force him to.
2 likes@bobby sanders you are correct. No judge would hold legalese against a non-attorney litigant.
2 likes@bobby sanders "up holdable"? Hahah.
0 likesA L citation?
0 likesA L You’re conflating Salinas v. Texas’ finding in which the Court ruled that one must expressly invoke one’s Fifth Amendment right to remain silent with the Sixth Amendment’s right to legal counsel. “I want my lawyer” is plenty. The police OUGHT to immediately stop questioning him at that point. But that would require ethics and lawful conduct. Attorney and law professor James Duane of the U. of Va. covers this subject matter expertly on YouTube in a two-part video series entitled “Don’t Talk to the Police,” and in his related book “You Have the Right to Remain Innocent.” IANAL; this is not legal advice.
5 likesin the United States a loyer is to be provided within 24 hours
0 likes@bobby sanders Your use of punctuation is about as good their detective work. What- you like to use every key on the keyboard except for the comma and period? Your comment is inadmissible 😂😂😂
2 likes@TheBrando28 IKR- it's not like his period button doesn't work- it's just the dolt is too friggin' lazy to hit it. His comment is now inadmissible😂😂😂
2 likesIs Jeff really a Legend? Is the guy commentating really even a decent psychoanalyst? Is @A L a professional clown? Is @bobby sanders a grammar teacher? I mean c'mon guys- wtf are we even doing here? 😂😂😂
1 likeBecause American cop 🤷🏻♀️
0 likes@Rick the Swift Jeff is a legend
0 likes@Kristine Hansen Legends are like assholes; world's full of them, and you're even speaking to a living one right now🤣
0 likesEDIT: A living legend that is 😋
@viciousKev that's not true at all
0 likes@A L that's not true at all
0 likesRick the Swift ... c’mon man...
0 likeswhy does it sound like the person arrested has a mic on but the coo doesn’t ??? seems like a skit lol
0 likescops: you have the right to remain silent
418 likesjeff: .....
cops: wait. thats illegal
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I think the lesson is to never ever talk to cops about something you're accused of. So just repeat: "I wish to exercise my right to remain silent." or "I do not recall.".
8 likeslol, you can't just pretend you're suddenly deaf and mute. That could be considered obstruction. You still have to respond to the police, but you can legally respond with, "No comment," or "Get me a lawyer." I would recommend saying both repeatedly until you actually talk to a lawyer.
3 likes@Megan Smith You can't pretend you're deaf and mute, but once they tell you that you have the right to remain silent, you tell them you want a lawyer and from that point on, you can pretend you're a table for all it matters. Matter of fact, I recommend anyone do this as cops and prosecutors tend to cut corners when it comes to things like this. The results of such lackadaisical attitude is deprivation of civil liberties on a gross scale.
4 likes@Megan Smith remaining silent under questioning is a fundamental right. it is NOT obstruction. thats the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. a cop might arrest you for "obstruction" if you refuse to answer questions, but that would be a wrongful arrest. cops act outside the law like this all the time.
0 likesThings should’ve stopped once he requested a lawyer several times. Regardless of his innocence or guilt, he should be given counsel if he requested it. This is a shame.
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They stopped it immediately the first time but he twice asked to see them to get a coke lol he's not exactly in the right here
29 likesHappens EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
22 likesNope. That just shows a criminal can be professional and 'think' they know their rights :)
5 likesThankfully, criminals also have distorted egos and self importance issues.
Which really gives police a great 'in' to work with.
The funniest is when criminals watch videos (like this) and think they can learn anything ..other than how to entrap themselves with a good interviewer :)
@Moodymongul found the cop oink oink
82 likes@that respectablehuman and judging by the sounds of crumpling tin foil coming from your comment, I assume I have found a delusional paranoid on YT.
7 likesCuriouser and curiouser ..
@Moodymongul calling a suspect a criminal, nice going.
58 likesThis is what I call a 'useless argument'
18 likesActually, how many fucking times does someone have to ask?
17 likesMoodymongul he’s accused of a crime . Stop calling people accused of crimes criminals .
12 likesHe asked for council but council wouldn't be available untile the next day most likely. Every time he asked for a lawyer he was taken back to his cell and was only brought back in for questioning when he asked for it.
2 likes@catsandporn he is a criminal. He's been convicted in the past. He is both a suspect in this situation and a criminal.
1 like@ZarMiningInc Everytime he asked he was taken back to his cell. He was only brought back for questioning when he asked to be brought back. There's alot of ignorance in this comment thread. That cop knows he's on film and knows that if he breaks procedure his case is gone. That's why he read him his rights every time they talked.
1 like@catsandporn he never called this guy a criminal. He mentioned the behavior of some criminals. But never labeled this guy one. Everyone here is so quick to jump to conclusions.
1 likeDaphne?????
1 like@Ay1 i have never heard of manipulated video's from the police. mind sharing where you got that info from
0 likes@johnny bird 2:01 he just said that he has had prior convictions. that makes him a criminal
0 likes@catsandporn 2:01 he literally just said he has had prior convictions. if that doesnt make him a criminal then i dont know what does
0 likes@Patrick Higgins if he served his time, he is no longer a criminal. That is the issue...A suspect is not a criminal, we are presumed innocent for a reason... We have rights for a reason... Letting police and gov fk with our rights is not correct in any way shape or form.
4 likesThe subtle manipulation of portions of the population to call their fellow citizens criminals randomly when they haven't been convicted... that's scandalous...
we should want to help this man. So our taxes stop going to the police in handling these cases... we should want him in detox.. not a prison... America has high recidivism for a reason when other advanced nations do not. We need to learn and copy them... Cops lie, steal, cheat, and harass American citizens far to much.
Btw, we all have committed criminal acts just we haven't been caught. Stop letting our rights get trampled on. We should really want people like this man to get help. Not be put in jail.. he needs to be shown a future so he stops doing drugs... not being fkd with by a cop when high who is trying to force him into giving a false confession...
Ridiculous
He only came out if his cell for coke after.
0 likesNoor Daghlas It doesn’t matter at all he asked for a lawyer EACH AND EVERY TIME..he requested counsel therefore question STOPS it’s really that simple
1 likeMoodymongul Imagine being so brainwashed by the criminals you think EVERYONE who isn’t a cop is a “criminal” 🤦🏾♂️😂
1 likePatrick Star Pull the wool from your eyes and do YOUR OWN research..you’ll be surprised how much and how quickly you find proof if you just LOOK for it 🤦🏾♂️
0 likesMERRICA!!!
0 likes@johnny bird Buddy, he has previous convictions, it is even talked about in the video. He may not be a mafia don or a drug lord, but he is a junkie with previous convictions. I think calling him a criminal works.
0 likes"I want a lawyer"
2097 likesOfficer: I'm gonna pretend I didnt hear that
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He did get one
3 likesAfter watching these interrogation videos, I’m never saying anything to the police without a lawyer
63 likesHope he did, cause i noticed that they kept him there as much as they could without one jusr to get info out of him
9 likes@Not My Tempo This is called being too smart by a half. What if you are innocent, and a simply explanation can prove that and get you released, instead of possibly held for days, if not convicted?
1 like@J D then you can sue them for wrongfully holding you
16 likes@Not My Tempo I'd rather just not rot in jail and skip the whole unpleasant experience, thanks.
1 like@J D then go ahead and incriminate yourself without a lawyer
27 likes@Not My Tempo I am a lawyer. And law professor. My point is all rules have exceptions. And there is often a big difference between what an innocent person and a guilty person should do during police encounters. An innocent person arrested for robbery should generally explain his alibi rather than just sit in jail for days if not weeks. This is legal education, not legal advice.
7 likesNothing he said after I want a lawyer is admissible right.... Yeah never talk to cops. Say nothing, say get my lawyer and be done unless you have proof you were elsewhere or whatever. But, I'd still get a lawyer first before speaking about it.
2 likes@J D that is never happens. On the other hand, if you innocent simple explanation can get you in jail - that happens a lot.
6 likes@Crazmuss I guess you'd know better than an attorney. 🙄
1 like@J D stupid will go home, smart will go to jail, that is fine with me. BTW, do you know why exceptions called "exceptions" and not "rules"?
2 likes@J D I would invoke the 5th and then i LL JUST STFU
0 likes@Skellie X not every attorney good attorney. Yet any better than none. Think about it this way - if you find yourself in sticky situation, you no way have enough experience to figure if this is one of those rare exceptions. You will think that you be fine by speaking to police, but in fact, everything you tell them will be used against you.
2 likes@C P not while he was being interrogated.
0 likes@J D This is ridiculous advice. As a lawyer you should know how many innocent people go to jail specifically because they perceived the police as good faith actors when 9 times out of 10 that couldn't be further than the truth. Only in crime dramas do police prioritize the truth. In reality their only priority is getting a conviction, and they will do everything within their power to attain that.
10 likesIf you're innocent of a crime you're being accused of, ask for a lawyer. And if you're guilty of a crime you're accused of DEFINITELY ask for a lawyer.
As a black man in Alabama, I have a slew of stories about police being bad faith actors who give a rat's ass if you're innocent, starting from when I was as young as 13. I was accused of a crime I didn't commit when I was 23 and neglected to ask for a lawyer, foolishly believing the police had any interest in the truth. Luckily the truth exonerated me but not before the police took it upon themselves to punish me just for NOT being guilty and allowing them to get their precious conviction, and only after they tried to fabricate evidence against me (a phenomenon I've also experienced more than once). In the end they made up a phony story that I was loitering just to charge me with something--an accusation that also wasn't true btw. The only reason I've never been convicted of anything is because of incompetence on the part of the cops who tried to frame me, but certainly not for lack of their trying.
Also, a false confession is as good as a real one to a cop. They get their conviction either way. And they have plenty of tools at their disposal to coerce you into confessing to a crime you didn't commit and are more than willing to use them on naive innocent people who don't know any better.
7 likes@Will Bennett Proof that you have zero reading comprehension, I made it clear that I was not giving advice. But there are circumstances where speaking to the police is in a person's interest. If you think all cops are evil and want to frame you for crimes you didn't commit, that sounds like a personal problem.
0 likes@J D well I find it difficult to believe you are. Because it never goes down the way you describe.
5 likes@Da Medusa Says the non-lawyer. All rules have exceptions. What if a young relative of yours was kidnapped and the police call you in for questioning. Do you remain silent, looking guilty as hell, so they waste valuable time looking into you instead of finding your relative and the real bad guy?
0 likesI once knew a guy who had just graduated from high school, a former football player. He used to sneak into the high school weight room to work out, and his former coach knew it and was OK with it. One night he sneaks in to workout, and sets off a newly-installed burglar alarm. Police come, and he, thinking he is so clever, says "I'll just remain silent." Instead of telling the cops that he had permission to use the weight room, now he's a collar for trespassing. He was afraid to call in the coach later to testify because he was hoping to be coach someday. But of course that is ruined with a misdemeanor trespassing at a school conviction on his record!
General rule is don't talk to police. But there are numerous exceptions. The law is based on fact patterns, so general blanket rules are troublesome.
@J D you’re not fooling anyone. You’re not a lawyer or law professor. Just because you call yourself “J D” for Juris Doctor doesn’t make you a lawyer or law professor. No real law professor would waste their time “educating” people on situations and exceptions the way you are doing so. You’ve been picked apart by a few real law experts.
3 likesYou also claim to be a defense attorney telling people to talk to the cops if it benefits you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Good one. 👍
@J D As your internet defense attorney, my advice is to take the L and move on. Always get an attorney period, guilty or innocent
7 likes@J D Actually I'm a law professor at Harvard and Yale, was AG of the United States for 10 years and I say you're wrong. Why do you feel the need to lie about your qualifications to strangers on the internet?
2 likes@Will Bennett
4 likesWatts v Indiana: "any lawyer worth his salt will tell the suspect in no uncertain terms to make no statement to police under any circumstances",
Ohio v Reiner: “emphasized that one of the Fifth Amendment’s basic functions is to protect innocent men who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances.”,
Quinn v Warren: right to remain silent is "a safeguard against heedless, unfounded, or tyrannical prosecutions".
Insane that a supposed law professor doesn't know basic first year constitutional law. It's almost like he's a lying sophist with insane misconceptions about the legal system.
@Marade Who would have thought that a former AG would have an anime avatar.
0 likes@SonofKiernan So if your niece is kidnapped, get a lawyer and don't speak to police, got it.
0 likesPeople on the Internet are so dumb.
@J D who would have thought a law professor would know nothing about the law. Crazy world we live in huh.
1 like@J D "you're a plumber" lmao what is this projection. Bro, seriously, post some credentials. If you're a professor, prove it. Of course, you aren't, so you won't.
3 likesI won't engage your examples because you're a sophist not arguing in good faith, and your trespassing example especially shows a complete lack of understanding of the criminal justice process. I would suggest you watch the Regent University School of Law talk entitled "Don't talk to the Police". It's fantastic and may help with some of your misconceptions.
Furthermore I'd like to recommend that you stop lying about credentials on the internet. It's okay to be uninformed and have an opinion on something but hiding behind a fake legal career is absurd and doesn't make you seem any smarter to anyone. Nor does accusing people of being unintelligent plumbers (many of whom, by the way, are small business owners and far more successful and capable than most).
P.S. my dad is Obama and my mom is an attorney so no one is allowed to criticize me or question what I say online ever
3 likes@J D Isn't that what he did? Said he didn't do it he was at his buddy's house. Or do you have to say more than that?
0 likesImagine checking out the Youtube comments and seeing your attorney in there having juvenile arguments with strangers and shitting all over the working class...
0 likes@Laser Panda I think we've had the same one
0 likesThis cop violating his rights by continuing to talk to him after Jeff asked for a lawyer.
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Nope. They made a deal and Jeff changed his mind.
6 likes@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun They kept him there against his will, knowing he was suffering from withdrawal, it's essentialy torture.
82 likes@Só Léo well I mean it’s not like he ain’t going thru withdrawal in the cell as well
2 likes@Só Léo he's addicted to heroin, not coke !
7 likes@Bill bruh caffeine is a stimulant of fucking course he’s still gonna withdrawal but damn let the man get some sort of comforting feeling from the sugar
23 likes@Bill Sugar helps. Also he asked for medication at the start and they refused to provide it.
9 likes@devon jones you really missed the entire point
3 likes@Só Léo And then Jeff, somehow unaware of how to exercise his rights, started to answer questions. You may not want to blame Jeff for the fact that he is a heroin addict, but it is a fact and that's the reality of the situation.
1 like@Nate Tooke He started to answer questions because the cops wouldn't give him a way to deal with withdrawal otherwise. Not sure what else you wanted him to do.
11 likes@Ethan Cadle I made a joke :p .. only I got it though
0 likes@Bill Nope. good joke.
0 likes@HitchensImmortal yesss , I am pleased to hear it
0 likes“Wam bam thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell” incredible.
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A little can,,,,go a Long way - in this specific case "a little" turns epic!
25 likesDorte Sandal season has a
2 likesNah Nah
1 likeI Dont believe it...he had 1 foot not 6 feet
1 likeWham
2 likesRex Manning you must be fun at parties
8 likesJust bring the coke ; )
4 likesPretty smart for a junkie 👍
7 likes@Derp Derps crazy, it's like people who suffer from addiction can be educated people inspite of their disease
52 likes@carlyhlavaty Right to remain silent is kinda obvious. It doesn't take recursive criminal to figure that out.
1 likeSpoiler alert
0 likesno. it was herion.
1 likeI swear after I heard that I was going to write it down in the comments but you already did before me
3 likesCraig McNulty t
0 likes@Derp Derps some of the smartest people on Earth are/were junkies. Granted, they don't live very long and I understand the knee jerk response of "well how smart can you be if make the choice to start using heroin?" That's a good question. And it's a question that William Burroughs, Miles Davis, Florence Nightingale, Charles Dickens, Charlie Parker, Howard Hughes, Marcus Aurelius, and Will Wilberforce (just to name a few) may have had an answer to. Not to mention the thousands of doctors/surgeons who live (or lived) their entire adult lives as closet opiate junkies.
8 likes@Derp Derps The word junkie is a society word to put people down it legitimate addiction problems. You really have to look at the person and not see a junkie but a person with problems.
3 likesDerp Derps who ever said all addicts are stupid - addiction and intelligence are separate things
3 likesLiterally just a copy of the same comment from 3 months ago
0 likesOmNomGaming sorry I didn’t scroll through 3 months worth of comments to make sure no one said it before me
2 likesThat's why he is a legend
0 likesMe Too is going so well for the Clintons 🙂👍
0 likesLike Suffragette City. "Wam bam thank you ma'am!"
1 likeLmao
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
0 likesguy on the right sounds like a total chad, man.
0 likesJeff is the best anti-hero(ineaddict)
0 likesPls dont steal my comment that's my first good one
Jeff is a legend, hard to dislike him honestly.
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@outlaw71 prove he did it.
27 likes@outlaw71 you just stated that a man who remained silent is an admitted robber.
9 likesWow.
@outlaw71 I just reviewed. Give me the time mark he admitted to robbery. A junkie admitting he's been through the system isn't an admission of guilt anymore than the fact pig cops lie to generate revenue and destroy lives.
18 likes@Denzel clown deleted all his comments.
14 likesThis thread is intense
6 likes@outlaw71 doubt he would do such a thing.
1 likeThe man is a hero😆👐
1 likeNot me crushing on the guy going through heroin withdrawal.
0 likesimagine sitting there with the boys, all the sudden police surrounds the house, and then u get free coke at a police station.
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but you have to go through withdrawals after 10~ years.
8 likesnow thats a bargain im willing to take
0 likesThey just push until they get what they want, what they did not count on is the addiction that he battles with is far worse than any punishment!
0 likesLegend has it, that Jeff is still being questioned to this very day.... and, that police department's coke budget has ballooned...
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Lol. They gotta cut a deal with Butterfinger and Coke to offset the costs.
11 likesWinner of the internet!
4 likesDude's kickin dope in the cell, withdrawing, sick as hell.
10 likesThat coke is his only comfort.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
2 likesNice! 😂🤣😂
2 likesLegend also has it that he never did get that Butterfinger.
4 likes🤣🤣
2 likesMiles Gentry if only people knew what 'sick' feels like. Everyone who treats dopesick people badly need to feel it for a while. They'd emphathise a LOT more then. By the way, the dean of a certain major university was on oxy's for years, he successfuly withdrew one year ago, but you d never have imagined it. So no you don't have to be this street thief charaxter or bad person even to get caught up w painkillers
1 likeNate D. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!
0 likesHe asked for a lawyer. That’s end of story. But 5 hours later they’re still trying to interview him??
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He said he would talk to them for a second time if they got him a coke or butterfingers. Lol they got him the coke but he still didn't talk. Totally legal,
143 likesThey’re allowed to do that unfortunately. Even if they plead the fifth amendment they’re allowed to keep asking questions.
34 likes@wanny fairy it was kinda dangerous. He was pretty close to giving them a time. But he fought the urge. It sucks we as a speacies wanna please so many people. To a fault.
19 likesOr it was an act on his part, which only makes him cooler.
@Dragan L Can you name the statute that states it is illegal for a cop to question someone after they have requested a lawyer?
5 likes@1onefix1 Projecting much? No mention of white people here mate. There's psychology, addiction and repercussions on the menu, you might as well take your conspiracies and MAGA hat to another diner
61 likes@velyan12
4 likesPeople who project tend to be less perceptive. And secure.
The topic of psychology is either foreign or anathema to individuals such as 1onefix1.
To try and make life and reality more simple is not inherently wrong.
As long as you are aware of what is actually real.
This does not apply to the person above.
@Mikaela Renè No, when he asks for a lawyer they cannot continue questioning him "until council is present". However, there isn't a time limit for how long it can take to get a lawyer there.
1 like@velyan12 there's no mention of MAGA et al. in his post though, so you're also projecting.
11 likesJane Stucker Exactly!,
0 likesThey don't have to stop asking him questions, he just can choose not to answer
3 likesvelyan12 you seem unhinged.
4 likes@1onefix1 HEY GUYS BEING CONCERNED FOR YOUR RIGHTS AROUND POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE KNOWN TO ABUSE RIGHTS AND TRY TO BUILD CASES AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE IS VIRTUE SIGNALLING!!! MY BRAIN IS SO BIIIIIG!!!!!!
14 likes@Dragan L Yes, except he told them he was willing to speak to them again (he happened to admit doing it for a coke), and if you notice they read him his rights a second time, so in that case...it's legal. Now, if they didn't read him his rights again...
1 likeY'all. They have a 1st Ammendment right to ask him anything. What is this Hollywood bullshit about 'oh he asked for a lawyer now I can't talk to him' I keep hearing about? God damn.
2 likesIt is as if they want someone to speak... even after they have said he can remain silent
0 likes@Amehdion according the legal precedent set by Miranda vs. Arizona, when a suspect invokes their right to counsel all interrogation and questioning must immediately cease until counsel is present. However, if a suspect has been properly mirandized, they can waive those rights, including right to counsel, by voluntarily initiating conversation and showing an intended desire to discuss the crime.
2 likesInvoking the right to remain silent works differently in that a suspect can still be questioned, without counsel present, at a later date or after a certain amount of time has passed, providing they are again read their Miranda rights.
Whether any of the aforementioned was violated in this particular interrogation, I can't say for sure. It looked to me that in the beginning of the video the suspect simply invoked his 5th amendment right, i.e. "I don't talk to you motherf**kers". Which, as previously stated, in that situation the officers are legally permitted to question him at later time after again reading him his rights; which they did. It was only later in the video that I explicitly heard him request legal counsel, and in that case the interrogation is legally obligated to cease until his attorney is present.
@Amehdion
1 likeMiranda Rights
The police must immediately stop probing if the detainee invokes either the right to remain silent or the right to counsel. If the suspect invokes the latter, questioning must cease until counsel is available. But if the detainee invokes only the right to remain silent, the police may reinitiate questioning at a later time, provided that they honor the right to remain silent.
What it means to “honor” the right to remain silent after a suspect invokes it isn't always entirely clear. Courts consider the circumstances of renewed questioning, including the passage of time, whether the police gave fresh Miranda warnings, and whether they asked questions about a different crime.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/questioning-after-claiming-miranda.html
He went for the interview. They didn't keep interrogating him.
0 likesYeah I thought that was crazy!
0 likesAmehdion I see people’s confession being throw out because the word “lawyer”, it is illegal to obtain a confession after them asked for a lawyer. I watched to many interrogations to know their confession will be out of a trial and the DA going crazy about it.
0 likes@Amehdion its called google, do your own homework or ask mommy. What are you 12, ever hear of miranda.
0 likes@Amehdion it is a federal law
0 likes@Rjay its a fact. If you want your case thrown out then go ahead and question after denying a person a lawyer.
2 likes@1onefix1 You are an angry little fella aren't ya?
2 likesFifth Amendment wasn't exercised. You need to tell them "I am exercising my right to silence and want/requesting/exercising my right to an attourney/lawyer". And then you SHUT UP. DO NOT TALK. Don't ask for water, don't respond to requests, don't talk at all. Just sit there, silent, and wait.
1 likeAnything else can be argued in court against you and your right to silence. Jeff didn't do that. It was legal.
@Moreno James *attorney. Spot on agree 100%
1 likeMikaela Renè Know what you are talking about before you speak!!! No they are not. Legally the very second he says he wants an attorney the interview HAS to be ended and no further questions can be asked and if they continue to ask and he answers any of them? Absolutely inadmissible!!!
0 likesI noticed that too 😬
0 likesAmericans talking about laws and rights in 2020. If you are white, you have no rights. Corporatist Hellhole. "Muh Freedoms"
1 likePeople get more jail for buying drugs from themselves, than people who bankrupt others and literally cause some people to suicide because of their financial speculation, errors etc...
America, where the freedom fighters on the streets share the opinions and views of Coke and McDonalds.
China sounds great right about now, hell North Korea is sounding better every day.
@velyan12 you're the one projecting with conspiracies and MAGA hat
0 likes@Anon that's not projecting, that's called making an inference. i don't think you know what projection means.
0 likes@princesstamika well the issue, in my opinion, is that it's not solely a racial issue, and framing it as such in the manner that the BLM movement has, including talking about out-right removing police forces, only serves to derail from a serious conversation that needs to be had about police brutality in general (far more white men are actually killed by police than black men, and there are many instances where black cops are perpetrators, so it affects everyone) and measures that need to be taken to prevent it. Measures such as addressing poverty and community policing, gun ownership, stop and frisk, and an overhaul in training and base requirements. The latter, by the way, would require more funding, not less, and would also cause outrage at the fact that certain requirements might exclude many women from certain police work; a women such as myself whose 100lbs soaking wet necessitates the use of a force multiplier in order to adequately detain and assert control over a much larger and stronger perpetrator, which is the very thing we're trying to prevent.
0 likesNow, I'm not saying that the killing of unarmed black men shouldn't be something that the black community specifically focuses on, much as I see no problem with feminists focusing on reproductive rights/health, sexual assault and the position of women in third world nations (issues that specifically impact women), I'm saying that to demand that the sole focus be about race, in terms of a national discourse, is incredibly myopic and not actually solving anything.
@Amehdion its every state, it's a federal right
0 likesLoved where he was told he had the right to remain silent and he sat in silence. Well played sir. Well played.
64 likesLegendary
0 likesMY MAN JEFF
0 likes“Am I getting a coke, or is this a fairytale.” Lmaoooo The guys clever and smart. Good luck, Jeff!
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I hope he was released and didn't get convicted with any bullshit :D
4 likesIt sounds like Lou Ann's boyfriend Lucky in King of the Hill
1 likejeff: I want a lawyer
719 likesOfficer: may i offer you a coke in this trying time?
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Jeff - I want a lawyer
11 likesCop - perhaps a coke to quench your thirst?
Oh Frank’s got a co- proceeds to vomit blood
0 likesanti hero? more like hero.
0 likesCop: you have the right to remain silent
452 likesJeff: ......
Cop: you weren’t supposed to do that
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But he Did sir. and He should, and he would, could, cared for it.
0 likesThis interview should have stopped when he asked for a lawyer.
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Exactly. And that's half the reason we root for him, because he's being abused.
264 likes@iraqi garfield Being cautious around police doesn't mean you wanna abolish them. Police are not your friend. Neither are criminals.
276 likes@iraqi garfield What are you on about? They are absolutely right. They should’ve stopped trying to fish and interrogate him when he asked for his lawyer.
198 likes@ThatOneQueerExtra No need to bring Hot Pockets into this!
45 likes@ThatOneQueerExtra YOU HALF THAWED HOT POCKET BAHAHAHA I KNOW THIS IS A SERIOUS TOPIC BUT I CANT GET OVER THAT THATS AMAZING.
51 likes@iraqi garfield how’s that boot taste
34 likes@iraqi garfield dont care LOL
2 likes@iraqi garfield found the republic unt
12 likes@iraqi garfield you're*
6 likesAsking honestly because I don't know - from what I understand, if he asks for a lawyer they have to stop that initial interrogation until he speaks to counsel. But once he's spoken to counsel they can continue to ask him questions, and of course he still has the right to remain silent. Counsel should advise him to only answer yes or no or I don't know or I don't remember, or even better just plead the 5th. Is that not right? Are we saying that once someone asks for a lawyer, the police can't speak to them any further?
7 likes@Amber McDonald I am pretty sure the police have the right to question them after they talk to counsel and if counsel is present. Cops cannot continue to interrogate someone after they have invoked their right to counsel. I am not sure what the consequences of continuing are, or what strictly qualifies as continuing. (Like I am not sure if trying to convince someone to respond to questions with declarative statements is the same thing as continuing to ask questions, but considering that they are supposed to re-inform you of your Miranda rights if you start a conversation with them, this seems unlikely.) But it does seem pretty likely that violating this guys rights would be really bad for the case against him.
9 likesRegardless, once the right is invoked, all further questioning should be done with their defense attorney present.
It's crazy how much time passed between interviews where he invokes his right to an attorney and the following interviews. My buddy had a court appointed attorney provided after 2hrs for a traffic stop... At 9pm on a Sunday
1 like@iraqi garfield You people will literally take any opportunity to boot lick to the police, and personally, I don’t even think it’s because you love authority or whatever, you just will say ANYTHING to “own the libs” just my take on your disability.
6 likes@iraqi garfield boy..you sure went quiet there 😂
3 likesYou know I only posted that to just get a reaction out of all of you right
1 likeYou guys are awesome to poke at
0 likes@iraqi garfield In hindsight, that makes sense actually lol, not sure why you waited so long to tell us though
1 likeYep! Soon as he said I want a lawyer they should have said ok and took him to his cell. They continued to bother him they know he’s starting to go through withdrawal. I hope anything is thrown out because he clearly was continued to be interviewed after he said he wants a lawyer !
0 likes@iraqi garfield 😂😂🤡💩
0 likes@Amber McDonald It’s a great question. The Supreme Court has made it clear that a person in Jeff’s position has to clearly and definitively assert their desire to seek counsel and clearly state that they will not answer any further questions (i.e. clearly invoke their 5th amendment right not to incriminate themselves) and then, most importantly, STOP TALKING. If they say they want a lawyer but then seem to keep talking or responding, then the police are free to assume that the person has changed their mind and voluntarily extended the interview and wants to keep talking. But, if the arrestee has properly invoked their rights, the police are supposed to stop the interrogation immediately. Assuming that happens properly, then the person would meet with a lawyer who would likely advise them to invoke their 5th amendment right not to incriminate themselves, thereby shifting the entire burden of proof onto the police and prosecution who may or may not already have enough evidence to bring charges. Many times, a suspect talking provides essential evidence.
0 likes@ThatOneQueerExtra Half thawed hot pockets are the worst. Siberian Tundra like Ice crystals at one end and molten lavaesque sauce at the other. Literally the epitome of the phrase "fml" no matter what end you bite into.
0 likes@GraySheep1717 It's just damage control, an actual troll wouldn't say so.
1 likeI think he probably later said that he wouldn’t speak to a lawyer but he would talk to them, but it was really just to get a coke
0 likes@iraqi garfield ik i do
0 likes“I want a lawyer”...5 hrs later no lawyer and they are asking him questions. Probably lucky they let him go.
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Once you are arrested and request an attorney, and the police keeps interrogating .... case could be thrown out for violating your rights.
61 likes@bib, that's another way to say it.
2 likesThere's an old saying that goes, "The reason a fish gets caught is, it opens it's mouth."
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Mac 101 💯👏👏👏🤝👍
17 likesMac 101 I love that! I’ve never heard that one!
0 likesUnless it gets snagged by being in the wrong place at wrong time.
6 likesGood one
0 likesThat's no shit.
0 likesFish have to open their mouths to eat and gulp water or they'll die.
1 likeK D100, you usually take sayings like this literally?
8 likesTimeless saying. Thank you for sharing:)
0 likesthats funny af
0 likesNever heard it, but that's good!
1 likeunless there is overwhelming evidence that proves for certain that the fish commited a felony,
4 likesActually the original proverb is "a fish with its mouth closed never gets caught" but i like your version better!
4 likesfish dont talk karen
0 likesbig thonk fish do literally open their mouths to bite the lure.
1 likespitzndtruth 1 happy to call ya moms my own
0 likesThat's profound! I haven't heard that one before, but I'll remember it forever.
0 likes@big thonkOne can have a saying like, "the early bird gets the worm." This saying is logically cohesive. Obviously other birds get other worms, but the logic is not self-negating. Fish have to open their mouths. So the idea that a fish opening its mouth is stupid is...stupid. Make sense?
0 likesOne junkie going through withdrawal is smarter during interrogation than every other subject on this channel combined lol
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You should watch Fifth estate on Russel Williams
2 likesOh for sure! A heroin or opiate addict of any kind will crack fast once that withdrawal start kicking in, and believe me I'm a recovering opiate addict so I would certainly know lucky enough I didn't ever end up in any serious legal situations nor did I I no enough about anything to get anybody in trouble anyway LOL I just kept my mouth shut regarding my charges and I knew better than to open my mouth regarding anybody , and then try to go back to the street and do what I had to do. Back then, at that point I knew was what I was going right back to it as soon as I was free. Thank the Lord I've been clean since May 18th 2010 it's a hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. But there's definitely Merit to what you are saying. Cocaine addicts will keep their mouth shut so fast and not suffer but the more opiate addict goes without their drugs the more horrible they feel and the more tempted they are to do whatever they got to do to get out and get more.
2 likesYou have the right to remain silent, and he did.
0 likesAgreed😂
0 likesCops: “if we mix downplaying the questions with confining the person in a small room for hours on end and playing psychological games we can easily interrogate anyone”
481 likesHeroin addict: no
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It's not even psychological games, you give them too much credit. It's just blatant lies. "We have evidence" no, you don't.
24 likes@Jack Black alot of it is psychological though, their tone of voice, the words they use, the chair your in, its all to manipulate you into a sense of security until they can get a confession
11 likes@DeltroxTv yeah. It's like "fuck that. Sitting here silent for 12hrs and not giving any confession isn't gonna bring more pain then already so might as well do it and avoid jail"
3 likesEverything about this "interview" is illegal. When Jeff said he wanted a lawyer ALL QUESTIONING SHOULD HAVE STOPPED.
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They're still trying to deceive him in case he's "not sure"
34 likesThere was nothing illegal about this. He didn’t ask him any questions about the robbery after he asked for a lawyer. And then he left. The next set of questions is 5 hours later, likely after Jeff has talked to a lawyer.
62 likesBro this is the first video they play in detective school lmao.
37 likesFact avg. 1600 hours for your barber license
Avg. 800 hours for your police license.
@5yri5 It should be. They should invite Jeff as a guest speaker
2 likes@Rakim Ali True but then we wouldn't have learned so much about Jeff's amazing ways
2 likesGriffin Bailey what makes you think he spoke to a lawyer? i’d love to know
10 likesTheir waiting for him to start suffering from withdrawal and get him to confess just so he can lay down and rest....fascist cops
8 likes@j.p. and how are you so sure he didn't? We can all make assumptions but no one will really now what happened behind the scenes
2 likes@Myss angelA Because there wasn't one present during questioning, one can assume he didn't speak to an attorney. The first thing an attorney does is make sure there is no questioning without them present.
11 likesWhen have cops ever followed the law lol
1 likeThat is not true
0 likesIdk what the law says where they are but in one of the videos on this page it talked about how it’s not illegal for the cop to still ask questions. The person being questioned can remain silent and can still req a lawyer, but doesn’t stop the detective from questioning and can use whatever information the person says. However, that video was a Canadian detective. Just wondering if it’s possibly the same kinda scenario..
0 likes@Jimmy davis III oh I've heard that's how canadian system works too. Are they canadian?
0 likesMyss angelA idk about this video? But the last one I watched was. Either way I like to see how detectives conduct investigations lol
0 likesThey can keep going. But it'll be useless in court of law without an attorney .
1 likeJ.A.R. Family cool beans. What about if the person being questioned gave more info? I think they could still use it?
0 likesMyss angelA yeah that’s the point. it shouldn’t be behind the scenes. this is public information bud
0 likesCut out all your talking so I can share this video to a class
0 likesLet’s be honest the only people that won here is The Coca-Cola Company.
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@Monika Blaze1979 FACTS! Lol
3 likesLife's Good.Coca-Cola
2 likesUnfortunately Butterfinger did not make the cut.
10 likesI really want coca-cola now...
1 likeThis didn't age well.
1 likewam bam thank you for the coke hahaha classic
0 likesThe fact that they can hold someone in a tiny cell for that long when he has repeatedly said he didn’t want to talk and asked for a lawyer is so unconstitutional and wrong it’s not even funny. The law says book them or release them once they ask for a lawyer.
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Prosecutor will keep you jail until you plead guilty.
29 likesAnd this guy they are clearly mistreating (whether they think he is guilty/have evidence or not) is white.
25 likesUnfortunately, the police can hold you for DAYS without charging you. So that "release or book em" means very little
25 likes@Koyi Chan so?
8 likes@Mavilo Because this is a universal police problem that everyone should be worried about. The media pushes it like a race issue last several years, but the reality is police abuse their authority all the time on everyone and we should all be upset.
50 likesIts common knowledge that cops dont need to follow the law. Grow up.
3 likes@Alexander Erickson Then get upset and do something about it? What are you on about lol. The idea that people can't instigate institutional change is ridiculous and naive at best.
19 likes@Koyi Chan What are you doing to induce institutional change in the world?? How can someone as an individual make a difference in our crooked legal system. Want him to run for public office? Its niave to say that individuals can create institutional change even though the people who dedicate their entire lives to forming national organizations, charities, and protests cant even invoke that type of change in this country. As sad as it sounds, we are pretty powerless to the conditions that surrond us.
6 likesWelcome to Georgia. Home of prisons for profit.
6 likes@Jarek M It's stupid to think they can't. Literally every movement that is ever done is ultimately due to the decisions and actions of individuals.
6 likes@Koyi Chan What has movements like BLM accomplished in regards to institutional police reform? Have they succeeded in their cause? If the government or the big corporations dont want it to happen, its not going to happen. Other than devoting his life to a political cause, what is the person to do to induce institutional change?
2 likes@Jarek M so your overall message is , someone else tried it - it didn’t work, other people tried it still hasn’t work, so stop trying and do nothing except submit to a false sense of freedom and persecution by an unjust law?
3 likes@taylor hernandez My message is that the US government is fucked and you will not be able to induce institutional change due to how the system is set out. Thats the reality of things. You can fight for it but ultimately your effort will probably not do kuch but mske you feel better
1 likeYou should look up the Hostage Justice system in Japan. Iirc, they can hold you in detainment for 23 days without filing a charge provided the officers deem there to be suspicion. This can be extended with a simple court order. (Doubled or a week extension; I forget.) Anyways, it’s just something to look up if this is something that intrigues you.
2 likes@Amicus Curiae Whats interesting to is the guilty rate in Japan. Its something like 95% of people who are arrested are found guilty
2 likes@Amicus Curiae Not only that, but remaining silent can be brought up by the prosecutor during the trial and used against you.
1 like@Jarek M Actually, it's about 98% of those who go to trial (which equates to about 30% of those who get arrested), but your point still stands.
1 likeA lot of people say the Japanese system is like "Guilty until proven innocent".
I would rather say "Guilty until proven guilty". Totally fucked up system.
@Alexander Erickson They need to but they don't. Which is literally what the problem is with the police. No accountability for their actions and when they do violate it and they're severely caught in the public eye, they're just moved around. Keep their pensions, move to another department and do it all over again.
1 likeNot sure who you're telling to grow up lol. Those who are complacent when their rights are violated need to grow up. So try looking in a mirror.
@cobainlives69, exactly.
0 likes@Robert Dunn Ehmmmm, no. A high conviction rate just means that more people are getting convicted. And being convicted doesn't automatically imply that they have committed the crime they are accused of.
3 likesAs for the last part of your comment, I believe most people here in the comments (myself included), are sympathetic towards this guy, because the police officers are clearely abusing their authority by not letting him go back to his cell and not giving him a lawyer. Things that would be unthinkable in a civilized Country (like the one I come from).
@Robert Dunn Also, I forgot: the very last part of your comment is total bs.
1 likeYou don't "have it easier" by confessing or pleading guilty (which is exactly what the police is expecting from you). You "have it easier" by finding a good defense attorney.
@Robert Dunn Ah yes, youre first amendment rights dont matter... Only criminals would use the first amendmeny...
1 like@Robert Dunn apparently you've never been at the wrong place, like a concert, and held for something I never heard of, so until you experience it first hand you should go experience the endless questions for hours on end by a team about something you didn't do, then tell me that. If you've sat through that, by all means tell me about it.
1 like@Robert Dunn I don't believe you, and I was a child, now im a scary man. Even if you spent the weekend in your hometown jail you sat there. I bet you can't handle sitting in your recliner at home for 30 hours only going to the bathroom 3x, nothing else in the room unless you have some one to scream accusations at you for hours. I'm not crying either it's an injustice that shouldn't be, it's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but it's guilty until your able to prove yourself innocent. If you agree with the status quo you should start thinking for yourself. You voted for Biden didn't you?
0 likesWhy does the antihero picture have half an arm ?
0 likesThe sad and pathetic thing about this, is that this is typical interrogation technique used throughout the US and Canada. In this case it is especially egregious because Jeff, after being Mirandized, asked for an attorney. After an individual requests an attorney the interrogation must stop. The police must not continue with questions that could invoke an incriminating response. Not only did they ignore his request for an attorney, they proceeded with the interrogation process.
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Not entirely true. They can ask whatever they want. But after he asks for a lawyer, anything he says won't be inadmissible as evidence. So they absolutely can still sit there and ask questions.
33 likeswell police can press for as long as they want ur still allowed to not say anything tho
5 likesAnd Brian Laundrie crossed the country, lawyered up, didn't say shit, went on a camping trip, disappeared from his home and the police didn't find out for days... And he was free all that time after committing murder. Unbelievable.
10 likes@Taylor You mean will be inadmissible, I assume
1 like@DeathnoteBB You understood what I meant in context.
2 likesMirandized? That’s a fetish activity right?
5 likesYanks and their “mirandized” and “burglarized”
These words are so amusing in English.
We say “burgled”
Burglarized sounds like a sexual act
@rafer Jefferson iii “burgled” sounds like “gurgled” therefore burgled is a stupid word
13 likes@starfish well he committed suicide while camping so
0 likes@farmerchick Did he really? You believe that BS story they put out.
1 like@rafer Jefferson iii have you ever heard of the word “realise”?
4 likesYour facts are wrong though. He did get an attorney and Jeff only accepted future interviews to get snacks.
1 like@rafer Jefferson iii Lmfao I can't believe that British people not only use shortened forms of words the US does but also thinks that anyone cares about it.
5 likes@saffron77 I think he's off to realise his wife.
2 likes@Agfd 😂
1 like@bruh standler I’m just playing bro. Listening to US English is highly amusing
0 likes@rafer Jefferson iii As a fellow Englishman, I get your point on burgled vs. burglarised, but mirandised? You're not gonna say "mirandled" are you, lmao
0 likes@Armata Strigoi we would say “miranda’d” if we had that word, not “mirandized”
0 likes@rafer Jefferson iii So do you still get Mirandled in the UK?
0 likes@Bee Dee Bee we get read our rights
1 like@rafer Jefferson iii 🙃
0 likes@Taylor I'm not sure that's true. I think you have to maintain your silence. "I wan't a lawyer" then blab your story =confession.
0 likesAt least that's what the guys at Rekeita Law said.
I've never watched an interrogation this many times.
387 likesHe really is a fucking legend.
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agreed!
3 likesThat’s crazy because this is literally my third time watching this!
1 like"Now I can't talk to you, because you asked for an attorney." So I'm just going to sit here and keep talking to you without an attorney.
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At that point anything Jeff said would be inadmissible in court because they refused his right to an attorney.
203 likesThey should be brought up on charges. The law is crystal clear that you cannot ask any more questions.
111 likes@Sean Hopkins Unfortunately, the cops can keep asking you questions. It's up to the individual to fully understand what do the Miranda rights mean, what are the police officers trying to do, and what they should do in that situation.
106 likesFortunately, Jeff seems to understand those.
@war13death that's not how it ever happens though they would use it against him anyway. Tons of cases prove that. Sometimes a guy will ask for a lawyer then be suck in the room for over an hour "waiting for the lawyer", while the cops try to talk to him and get a confession through any means
23 likes@Sasino And things become inadmissible in court, sure, but they can mention it and the jury (if applicable) and the court will hear it already, even if it's stricken down. They will have heard it and it will become part of the thought process, along with knowing that it's inadmissible.
24 likes@Sean Hopkins it's not a thing that you charge someone for.
3 likesit just invalidates anything said.
If he was smart he would have answered every question with I want a lawyer until he spoke to one and was present.
11 likes@Sean Hopkins Um, bullshit. They can keep asking questions that the suspect doesn't have to answer. They can still use his reactions on camera against him in the legal case. I love how often people are against cops employing tactics to catch criminals nowadays.
7 likes@XandZ - Because cops don't really care about "catching criminals" nowadays (or ever). They just care about catching somebody.
33 likesDon't get me wrong, I'm sure most cops would prefer that the correct person goes down for the crime. But, honestly, they are evaluated on their clear rates, which means that their incentive structure is built around finding any adequately plausible suspect, not the actual guilty party... And I'm not even blaming them. I'm just saying that people follow their incentive structures to their logical ends whether those ends are good or bad. And law enforcement, on the level of both police and prosecutors have bad incentive structures that reward them for finding somebody and don't punish them if that later turns out to be the wrong somebody.
and thus why hes seen as an anti hero, sure this guy isnt a great guy but he shows what someone should do in this situation, maybe you are in this situation wrongly, you should do what he does here.
5 likes@M Detlef No. No, they really cannot. When a suspect tells you that they want an attorney present, you are legally required to gather up your paperwork and have that person escorted back to their cell. But thank you for incorrecting me.
2 likes@Sasino the law says every form of interrogation must stop if the right to remain silent and the right to have an attorney present are invoked .
4 likesWho's the real criminal
3 likes@r s I'm sorry, what I meant is that even if the cops keep interrogating you, they can't be charged as @Sean Hopkins said. The cops, as shown in this video, will probably still continue to ask questions, even if what you say may not be technically used in court. I think @ibrudiiv explained it much better.
0 likesI think these were different days/instances
0 likes@Niminae I'm the child of two police officers. I'm 50, and they were cops almost my entire life. (Dad retired a detective.) I'm very familiar with the world of law enforcement. The instant someone says they want an attorney, the interview is over. This detective broke the law, plain and simple. As much trouble as I've put myself in, I have little sympathy for criminals, but I have less respect for cops who ignore the law. My parents were by the book cops.
2 likes@r s You are 100 percent correct. No "talking", no attempt to elicit a confession whatsoever. End of conversation.
0 likes@Sean Hopkins It's not illegal for them to ask you more questions, the evidence just isn't admissible. It would be insane to arrest someone literally just for asking someone a question.
0 likesThey don’t have to stop asking questions.
0 likes@TBDF12 Yep!!
0 likes@ibrudiiv Mmmmnn !!
0 likes@electron Jarvs Or say "no comment, no comment, no comment, no comment, no comment......" !!!!!!
0 likesMe and my girl dancing 4:52
1 likeAs an ex heroine addict, I'm feeling so well what he's going through, those awful withdrawals.. and you can hear his voice change because of them and these cokes he's asking for are to keep his sugar high.
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2 likes@anonymuz 🇬🇪✊
1 like0:43 BURN!!! 🔥
0 likesJCS, are you still on Patreon?
0 likesplot twist, this is just one big coke ad
0 likesOk let's put everything aside for now and let's just realize that Jeff is an absolute icon 💀
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i mean we've already "realized" it the video is literally titled the legend of jeff
13 likesthat's the point of the video, jesus
3 likes😭🙌🙌🙌 icon for no reason bro
2 likes@big sock hush
1 like@neothepenguin what for
0 likes@Wap💦😻 ikr 🤣🤣🤣
0 likesEveryone commenting are a prime example of what JCS is saying, like a bunch of lemmings
0 likesThis is a pretty cool coke commercial.
1 likeA true based sigma.
0 likesThis guys actually the man. Only reason people like him is cuz he didnt hurt anyone, and wasnt accused of it. Then hes funny and is amazing at understanding what the officers r trying to do
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The coolest criminals get away with it while not killing anyone in the process
9 likesHe is actually really smart, but he kinda fucked up his life when started doing drugs
13 likesHe asked for a lawyer js
0 likesJeez. This poor guy requested healthcare and a lawyer, and got neither.
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He got a lawyer, jc would’ve pointed out if they violated his rights also this would be a different storyline
50 likesNicksTheBeat I feel like he asked several times and they left him in pain and discomfort instead of allowing him his lawyer. That’s not right.
122 likesStofStuiver That may be
1 likeStofStuiver I don’t agree at all, actually. Rights are rights. The fact that violations of rights happens doesn’t mean that it is therefore right, appropriate or correct. In the United States, it is a matter of constitutional law that a lawyer is guaranteed to anyone being detained or arrested. So is healthcare. He invoked his right to both and did not get either. Therefore, the officer violated his civil rights, guaranteed to him by the United States Constitution. The issue here really isn’t what you or I think of it. The issue here is that it was unlawful. Make sense?
125 likesAND a butterfinger
26 likes@I. Wynn Wynn who are the universal defence lawyers ?
1 like@I. Wynn Wynn and that's shitty in my opinion. Luckily I live in Europe
13 likes@Elisa Rocchi there is people talking how shitty the healthcare is in some cases, so it really depends.
3 likes@spinosaurus striker still nobody gets to die on the street just because he/she does not have a health care insurance so yeah🤷🏼♀️
9 likes@spinosaurus striker A fair point, but even an imperfect universal healthcare system is better than a non-existent one.
10 likesJono Pearson the ones provided by the state? Those are the universal defense lawyers lol. Everyone has access to a state appointed lawyer if you do not have the financial means for a private lawyer.
7 likesUnfortunately those two things are luxury for even hardworking people
0 likes@I. Wynn Wynn technically, if you are in need of healthcare you will get it. They won't just let you die on the street because they don't know who you are or can't afford it.
1 likeHe was in discomfort, and wasn't in neef of emergency care.
@Dominique Does Life his case could be possibly be let go because of the violation of his rights and the clear lack of evidence outside of his past crimes which do not apply to his case and cannot be used to incriminate him
2 likesas someone without a prescription for methadone, was he in any place to be entitled to healthcare ? coming from a legal standpoint not moral, bc if it was up to me morally i’d get that man some methadone and a lawyer
1 likeAce Grossman hey hast the Right Go See a Doctor that Van Vice methadone
1 likeCops aren’t your friends and the law is optional to them. Remember that.
5 likeskidkruschev True story!
1 like@Raul Hernandez Public Pretenders is the common street euphemism for UDLs, right? Before I even go on.
0 likes@Nick Even if you are already compliant to a methadone programme at the time of arrest with a valid script at the local clinic, you will be a good week in the dungeon cells before you get your first daily dose - that's if you're lucky. I've heard of people go up to 8 weeks.
0 likesFor those who don't know... methadone withdrawals are just like heroin withdrawals only they last for up to 6 months, taking over a year before sleep patterns start returning.
"healthcare" lol
0 likes@I. Wynn Wynn haha it's so ridiculous that health care is not a right tbh you guys in the us are like decades behind on that. Really tragic...
0 likes@Cody Leander yeh that's pretty inhumane and absolutarian...
3 likes@David Miscarriage it's not a right because cost money. Food and house are more important, or maybe having a million dolar, why those are not rights?
0 likesAnd goverments are ALWAYS inneficient.
@hugokuoful Well we have shelters for homeless they also get money from the state and there are also kitchens for impoverished people. Idk which country you live in but where I'm from, (austria) nobody has to be homeless or starve. the most people are homeless because they are too lazy to get their check from the government, which is a shame but theres only so much you can do. I would think that being healthy should be a right lol
1 likeIts murica, you dont get healthcare you buy it
0 likes@John Barber Gotta love how the internet brings out the best in people
1 like@David Miscarriage yeah i dont care
0 likesI mean he got some cokes. That's basically U.S. healthcare and litigation right there xD
3 likes"Healthcare" literally drugs. Lol
0 likesJaalan Wow. You’re clever. Tell me more.
0 likes007 Bird That’s what really counts ha
0 likesI. Wynn Wynn You bring up a massively appropriate point here. M4A!
0 likesspinosaurus striker The healthcare industry is shitty af. No joke. But the constitution offers us protected rights, and healthcare, no matter how shitty (**sarcasm detected**), which is still guaranteed to each American, under the law.
0 likesRaul Hernandez Wait, what? You’re telling me that every citizen gets a lawyer, if they ask for one? 😆 You’re correct though, sarcasm aside. Whether it be a public defender or a privately hired attorney, this gentleman asked for an attorney, and did not get one when he asked.
0 likesAce Grossman Yes. He was. We’re not just talking about methadone, or filling a prescription. We’re talking about healthcare on the whole. If someone in custody requests healthcare, they have the right to it. Of course, I’m just Dominique, Esq. from google university, but I read a lot, and am familiar with constitutional law to some degree, as we all should be.
0 likes@Dominique Does Life when you are in custody you don't don't get to dictate what kind of health care you are given. How do you know he didn't go to the infirmary after the first interview? If he did and a doctor said his withdrawals are not life threatening then that's it. They give you some ibuprofen and send you back to your cell.
1 likeWasn’t there recently a story about a woman who gave birth in her cell without medical assistance? No medications, all alone. It was all caught on video.
1 like@Raul Hernandez is that not the same as the healthcare system
0 likes@Dominique Does Life They do it all the time. The monstrous prison industry complex exploits the poor of society. Modern day slavery. These people's lives are ruined over non violent, victimless "crimes" and unconstitutional laws. I'm speaking nothing of this case. And there are people who absolutely belong locked up. But we have way too many people locked up for unconstitutional laws. This system is rigged and it is absolutely disgusting.
0 likesyeah for real this dude was totally in the right, and honestly even if he wasnt innocent, no addict deserves to be put through withdrawl. and when asked for a lawyer, the interrogation must immediately cease.
1 likeugh, cops.
@Elisa Rocchi Healthcare is the labor of another person. Saying you have a right to someone else's labor is called slavery
0 likesbob smoth This is...true 😂
0 likesKigut Correct! Addiction is a physical illness.
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