Thought I'd write a short case study on this video. Please note that I am not qualified in this area in any way. I'm just a random guy giving his opinion. Don't take anything I say too seriously without fact-checking first. Here goes.

I don't believe that Jeff is guilty of armed robbery. Let's have a look at a few reasons why.

Jeff has control throughout the interrogation process. His body stance ranges from:

	• Confident (spread legs, laid back)

	• Defensive. He places one leg high above his other knee, with his foot pointed at the detective. This indicates a feeling of discomfort towards the person he is interacting with. Note: Some people claim that this is in fact the opposite. This position may also mean that the person Is competitive, dominant and relaxed. Either way, this position is not detrimental to Jeff as you will later see.

	• Aggressive, he leans forwards towards the interrogator to close the distance between them at certain points.

Confidence can be faked but here's the thing. A lot of guilty suspects try to appear confident. They will do their best to look chill, composed, even bored. They think this shows they're not worried about anything, since they want you to believe they are innocent. The problem with that is that people who try to portray a false image of themselves, most often over compensate. This leads to the individual looking "unnatural" and gives the observer a feeling that something is not right. On top of that, their calm is very ill-suited to the situation that they're in. If you were accused of a crime you did not commit you'd be anything BUT calm and you'd be in strong denial the whole time. This is what Jeff does. He is confident, but not overly so. He looks genuine and actively denies the accusations while constantly challenging the detective's alleged evidence.

As for his defensive stance, it's natural since Jeff is a drug addict facing a policeman.

Notice at minute 6:34 when Jeff confronts the detective. His stance is no longer defensive. He is leaning forward, looking straight at the detective while presenting his defence. He speaks with determination, making the detective change his stance to an aggressive one (where he was leaning forward towards Jeff) to a strongly defensive one (laying back, one leg high above his knee). Jeff cuts off the detective multiple times and is in complete control of the situation, so much so that the detective ASKS "Let me read those rights for you, ok?". This could have been an attempt to break the tention and shut down Jeff's challenge.

Seeing how they're getting nowhere with the interrogation, the next detective attempts a bluff by telling Jeff they have incriminating evidence against him. This is meant to at least lower the suspects guard and confidence, if not to produce a confession outright. How do I know it's a bluff?

When policemen bluff, they will say something very unspecific such as "We already have evidence against you. We know you did it. The question is why?" or "There is video footage of you commiting the crime and eyewitness testimonies". At this point this could all be true but everything falls apart when the suspect confronts the policeman about it. Notice in this video when the detective bluffs, Jeff challenges his claims, causing the detective to be taken aback and struggle to give a response at one point.

Observe minute 10:41. The detective says "I got a lot of physical evidence" as he leans forwards towards Jeff to increase the pressure and impose authority. As soon as Jeff confidently replies "Like what?" the detective immediately leans back and stutters. At minute 10:53 the detective tries again by saying "There's only a couple of pieces of evidence I'm missing". He gave up control completely at this point. He  basically admitted to not having enough evidence for a conviction, which puts Jeff in a very strong position. He calmly replies "Name them." [the 2 pieces of evidence]. Notice how in this sequence, the detective brings his knee up to his chest and "hugs it". Not sure what this means, but to me it looks like a highly defensive move. That man looks anything but confident.

He then attempts to BARGAIN with the suspect. "You give me a little bit, I give you a little bit. I give you one of my pieces of evidence, you give me a little something".

He ends up just refusing to show Jeff the "incriminating evidence" he has against him.

There are more details I could have gone into, but I've been writing for a while and I feel like you get the point :)


9:08 Jeff, "I need a f*ckin' lawyer."
Interrogating officer, 😶


His obsession with the coke is sad; addicts going through withdrawal are usually dependent on sweets and cigarettes when drugs aren’t an option.


Say what you want about Jeff, but he is Mr Cool in this video! He knocks this out like a mob boss!


Why did they do another round of questioning after he called for a lawyer?<br>Honestly curious.

Why did they do another round of questioning after he called for a lawyer?
Honestly curious.


Crazy that its not mandatory for these interrogation people to know the rights by heart.


"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”— Jeff.


At least he knew his rights. He stayed silent and just wanted a coke lmao.


When Jeff asks to go back to his cell, and the clip jump cuts to # of hours later back in the room, it just makes me chuckle lol what a chad


Matthew McConauhey deserves an Oscar for the act here


How can they continue to question him after he already ask for a lawyer u ask... that's why they keep reading his rights over


"Under arrest for robbery".  By the most outrageous thieves, liars and law-breakers on the planet.


Jeff, and most people who stand up to this kind of interogation is considered an anti-hero because the cards are so stacked against him, the police can manipulate in many ways, including keeping you handcuffed in a small room for many hours, lying to you about what information they have, or lying to you about what they can do for you if you cooperate.   Studies have shown that when police children are arrested they are taught not to cooperate - they know the game.    Anyone who can keep his mouth shut is a hero in my book.


This guy is awesome! Too bad he doesn't realize how awesome.


Did this officer literally just tell a handcuffed person he is interrogating.<br>"Well, now you've handcuffed me!"

Did this officer literally just tell a handcuffed person he is interrogating.
"Well, now you've handcuffed me!"


How do we not know what happened to Jeff? You even linked his patreon? Im really hoping for the guy, he's been through some shit, and still keeps it together through something like that

“The legend continues”<br>It’s in the description

“The legend continues”
It’s in the description


They wanted to get him going thru withdrawals so he would be desperate enough to confess 🤣🤣


1:42
Damn Jeff seems like a cool fucking dude I wanna be like him
1:44
Never mind then


this guy is apparently doing fine, idk where it is, but someone found his YouTube channel and hed been uploading recently. just mundane stuff, nothing polished, nothing dark.


Jeff the only one that managed to get himself ice cold cokes while in jail LOL


In some ways: be more like Jeff
In some ways: don't be like Jeff
I route for Jeff in this specific scenario
COPS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS IN INTERROGATIONS


You have the right to remain silent… you understand what I read to you Jeff? So he practices his rights, what did they expect?


11:11 you can see the withdrawals beginning


“no usually i’m the prick” “you look like a prick” LMFAOOOO 😂😂


I hope that he get paid for that product placement... Such a badass


I was hooked on opiates for 6 years ..last 3 were on heroin.  Its no joke.  I'm lucky enough to have been able to have funded my addiction which was $200 every day.  Never stole never committed any crimes.  I was lucky enough to have family 320 miles away that I bailed out to and was able to quit cold turkey.  I am blessed buy rest assured it was the hardest shit I've ever been through.  I feel for anyone in this struggle and I'm here to talk if you need someone.


“Listen I only came back up here for the coke” 🤣


"How long you been doing heroin?"
" Long Time Buddy"
🤣🤣🤣


I don’t understand.  He said he wanted an attorney and he keeps being questioned?  I thought that wasn’t allowed.


Detective :I’m normally the  prick

Jeff: you look like a prick !
🤣🤣🤣🤣


So. This kept up after Jeff said "I want a lawyer"?


He is just wasting the cop's time and money just so he can have a free coke🤣🤣🤣


“The only reason I came up here was to get a fucking coke” 🤣🤣🤣🤣


‘You the good cop?’
‘No, usually I’m the prick’
‘You look like a prick’

RIP


Walter White is another great example of an antihero.


Is nobody gonna talk about how he still ask for the butterfinger at the end lol


Like the way he uses movies "fiction" to justify Jeff


couldn’t imagine going through heroin withdrawal in cuffs jeez


Hahaha!! They said Jeff is possibly on the marketing team for Coca-Cola lol 🤣


ATTENTION TO ALL <br>jeff has his own channel called legend of Jeff and you can tell its him. Give him mad views.

ATTENTION TO ALL
jeff has his own channel called legend of Jeff and you can tell its him. Give him mad views.


Officer: how long u been using heroin <br>Jeff: long time buddy 😱😂

Officer: how long u been using heroin
Jeff: long time buddy 😱😂


8:20 officer “do you understand the rights ive read to you😃?” jeff mumbles “no😐” Officer “huh🤨” Jeff “ yeah😛” LMFAO PLZ

8:20 officer “do you understand the rights ive read to you😃?” jeff *mumbles* “no😐” Officer “huh🤨” Jeff “ yeah😛” LMFAO PLZ


Everything  you say and do will be twisted around and used against you.


He asked for a lawyer. Why are they still asking questions?


I love watching this 😂 is that weird? 🤷♀ x


They probably got him to confess when the withdrawal became unbearable


At 11:42 there's a cut. The original version of this video was several minutes longer and mentioned a gun that was found at Jeff's friend Aaron's house. Apparently this was edited and then reuploaded. I wonder if JCS was concerned that the algorithm didn't like videos that mention guns...


If Silence is Golden , Jeffs tounge is Silver


Actually, considerring his addiction, possibility of hope for him is prison. Freedom sounds like a death sentence for heroin addict, sooner or later.


Damn I want to buy this heroin addict a can of coke. can we get a ko-fi for this guy?


I Didn't Think I'd Have to Process This Much Information From One Video....


LMFAO this would be such a good ad for Coca Cola if he actually started working for them


I watched Bad Santa because of this video. Really good film.


I’ll tell your parole officer your a nice guy ……WHAT


They should use this for training purposes. lol


Where’s his lawyer - f’n cops - Jeff’s the man !!!


There's a lesson here, but I'm not 100 per cent sure exactly what it is.


I’m starting to think he also has a coke problem too.


Am I gonna get that coke or is that just another fairytale hahaha so many quotable lines from jeff


isnt the burden of evidence on the state? chapelle taught me that shit


“I’m done man fuck this the only reason I came up here was to get a fuckin coke”🤣🤣


What!? You didn't just put Bad Santa as the Anti Hero. I can understand Travis Bickle naturally, but Deadpool is absolutely the quintessential anti hero lol.


I'm only into this 2 minutes, but the narrator says "Jeff already knows...". How can you comment in the operation of someone else's mind? Theoretically, if he's a hero in addict, maybe there are times when he hasn't processed the information told to him by the cops. Or maybe he doesn't understand the consequences of his behavior on heroine? Idk...maybe I'm just a school psychologist who watches too much Judge Judy! 😉

Edit: Great, they actually address this! 👍🏼


Thanks for the coke ...
Oh I'm not talking to you.
Wam bam thanks for the coke, put me back in the cell.
😂 if only he put his smarts to something useful


Shoulda used the joker . He’s the perfect anti hero


Not siding with the criminal or anything but the whole "you've probably heard this before" comment(when reading his rights) was kinda bullshit - even if he HAD heard it before


I don't get why this guy is so glorified and why the video calls him an anti hero. Am I missing some background here ?


For anyone wondering Jeff has a YouTube channel he updates frequently called, Jeff The Legend.

@John Doe Thats kinda cool man. I'll bet he was like, hell ya I'm a legend.

I went over there and told him about this video the couple months back and he didn't know about it lol


absence of evidence creates a bumpy conversation.


Didn't he ask for a lawyer? Should have stopped the interview then.


<b>"wham bam put me back in the cell."</b>


Surely you could have afforded us a "Five Hours Later..." clip! lol


This man is secretly playing them just to get free cokes and leave


He ain't signing nothing, no he don't understand his rights, give the man a coke and put him back in his cell.


This reminds me of Christian Bale’s character on the fighter


Detectives fucked up....Jeff would've confessed for that butterfinger


Am I under arrest? lol he's sitting there in scrubs and handcuffs I'd say it looks like you are


theres nothing like when you dont give a s...t about everything haha aha


That’s not Jeff, it’s Dwayne Stomp from Blacktooth


Rumor has is that Jeff works for the corporate marketing team for Coca Cola. Riight.


<b>IM ON MY FUCKING LUNCH BREAK, OKAY!?</b>


This is the longest Coke commercial I’ve ever seen


Does heroin increase your IQ?!? I may need to get on that.


We have a neighbour that has an addiction and you can tell other people steer clear of him because of how he looks and we live in a family orientated neighbourhood so he sticks out but he’s always been nice and polite to us.  It’s one of those “if it wasn’t for the addiction... “ things

@Meoo You "think" alcohol is less addictive? No, it's not, drugs and alcohol are equally addictive, alcohol is literally a drug in itself (see Foundation for a Drug-Free-World and the Orlando Recovery Center for sources on that), the only reason alcohol is legal is because it has been widely consumed for millenniums, whereas drugs are a phenomenon of recent centuries, if alcohol is legal, and alcohol is a drug, then drugs should be legal as well

@Meoo Then that would seemingly beg the question, why isn't alcohol illegal? By your very own logic, drugs and alcohol should be either both legal or both illegal, which one would you prefer?

@Meoo So can alcohol, or over-the-counter medication, or just having schizophrenia, or just being born poor with no opportunities in life, drugs don't cause you to commit crime, perhaps it can exacerbate it, but multiple studies have shown that drug use doesn't inherently cause criminality, all the examples listed above are the same as drugs in that regard

@Meoo Yeah ofc, but by "harm" I don't mean necessarily physical harm, but ANY sort of harm, like financially or mentally (emotionally is a no tho because that can have many triggers unrelated to crimes), and drug use doesn't cause any of those, drug use has no direct ill effect on anyone besides the user, and that's the user's own personal choice

@Meoo I wouldn't recommend committing suicide or self-harming either, but do I think those acts should be illegal? No. If I don't condone something it doesn't mean it should be illegal, I wouldn't condone using alcohol as a crutch to deal with sadness, but do I think it should be illegal? No! Absolutely not! You can't just make things illegal because you don't like them, it comes down to whether or not the things being made illegal are directly harmful to others by the people perpetrating them, and drug use does not fit that description

@Meoo also, because making drugs illegal means we'll stop throwing non-violent, recreational drug users in prison with hardened criminals, that simple Pavlovian Conditioning obviously would lead them down a life of more serious crime, including harming others, which drug use doesn't do. Notwithstanding the fact that non-violent drug arrests also make you ineligible for many jobs and, in most cases, ruins your life, key word, <b>non-violent</b>

@Meoo also, because making drugs illegal means we'll stop throwing non-violent, recreational drug users in prison with hardened criminals, that simple Pavlovian Conditioning obviously would lead them down a life of more serious crime, including harming others, which drug use doesn't do. Notwithstanding the fact that non-violent drug arrests also make you ineligible for many jobs and, in most cases, ruins your life, key word, *non-violent*

@Meoo Oh sorry I didn't mean to I guess I'll just retype it from memory

"Drugs can be used responsibly, it's not like you snort a single atom of cocaine and you start bouncing around like a monkey, much like how a sip of alcohol doesn't make you black-out drunk. Also a thing I forgot to mention was, it's not illegal to do things that are bad for you, suicide/self-harm can be used as a metaphor for this, I obviously wouldnt recommend you do them, much like how you shouldn't do drugs, but you still are/should be allowed to"

@Meoo The same thing can be said for alcohol, so do you believe alcohol should be illegal as well?

Also I responded fast because I've been building my case for why drugs should be legal for a while and I haven't been able to find anyone to disagree with until now

@Meoo How does a person doing drugs impact anyone else? It's a victimless "crime"

" im not gonna lie" this preface needs to disappear.

CAPTAIN CAPLOCKS I’m a heroin addict / dependent on opioids daily for 6 years now and I would never rob a place to stay well so it has nothing to do with heroin, ur right. Drugs don’t kill people or commit robberies. Stupid people do. I’m so used to law enforcement and society spitting on us and calling us scum... I don’t doubt that Jeff is probably innocent... they’re just prejudice as fuck. It’s funny that people don’t even know or can tell that someone is using opioids. Most of us r functional. It’s like saying all alcoholics r drunks on the street. The war on drugs has to stop and big pharma has to take responsibility for a majority of the epidemic...  I’m tired of ignorance. But we all know the USA takes forever to fucking get a clue and change.

The man the myth the legend. <br>This guy understands things way better than most people.

The man the myth the legend.
This guy understands things way better than most people.

@Christian Oyler also, just a slight addition, we have no evidence that Jeff ever committed an actual crime, besides using heroin which is a victimless crime and shouldn't even be a crime at all imo

Beautiful Roses yes..seems belligerence here is a character trait to be admired..🇨🇦🇨🇦

@Beautiful Roses he maintained decency and respect. Notice that he says thank you for the coke and throws his tissues in the bin after he blows his nose. He hasn't lost touch with basic deceny. It's the little things that give hope

CAPTAIN CAPLOCKS I blame d.a.r.e and other shit programs

Nate I’m not saying he is horrible just the whole addiction aspect but as a person he seems very reasonable and coherent

stanley oleyte I don’t think drug addiction should be viewed as having bad character.

Besides the horrible drug addiction he seems like a good enough character to at least be next to in a public setting lol


I have never seen such a naturally intelligent person. He could have been so much better.

He handled it incredibly well because he’s a heroin addict in a country where drug users are treated like criminals. He’s probably been in hundreds of these interviews and picked up a few things, not natural intelligence

@GUCCIpotato Yeah it certainly requires a lot of that<br>And yeah that man could certainly have a much better life if it wasn't for drugs :/

@GUCCIpotato Yeah it certainly requires a lot of that
And yeah that man could certainly have a much better life if it wasn't for drugs :/

@Rafael Gonzalez I was talking about the "other people" you saw in this channel. But look, I have no intention to start an argument with someone who wants to say getting away with murder is the same as getting away with robbery. You are perfectly able to understand why it doesn't make sense by yourself and I don't have to explain it to you, and this will only turn into a pointless discussion that leads to nowhere. That's why, whatever you will say next, I won't answer you anymore. Have a good day

@Talete I guess you are correct but I think that it would take a lot of mental fortitude. So maybe I phrased my comment wrong.

@GUCCIpotato being addicted to heroine doesn't mean you are a zombie 24/7. But yeah I guess we have different opinions and that's it, but I don't think he was incredible

@Rafael Gonzalez you can't compare being accused of murder without having any experience with the criminal system and being accused of robbing after you already were arrested before and know how all these things work

@Talete yeah but the way he was able to handle it was incredible especially thought heroine withdrawal

@ratmasked he literally said "I have never seen such a naturally intelligent person"

@Talete <br>that’s not what he said though

He simply refused to answer those questions because he knew they could be used against him. From this to saying is the most naturally intelligent person you've <b>ever</b> seen is a big stretch

He simply refused to answer those questions because he knew they could be used against him. From this to saying is the most naturally intelligent person you've *ever* seen is a big stretch

NO he's just used to being in this situation

looks to me like he's living his best life


Cop: “I have a lot of evidence”
Jeff: “Like what”
Cop: “I know what the evidence is, I want to make sure you know”

Atlas -Oh yea what’s her name?<br>-You won’t know her anyway she goes to a different school.

Atlas -Oh yea what’s her name?
-You won’t know her anyway she goes to a different school.


I think the reason people attach to an anti hero is when an anti-hero has a palpable sense of humor. Jeff's situation is hilarious in the way he reacts to everything, which makes people like him off the bat.

His accent and the way he just cares about cole

he is so relatable especially abt the coke and a butterfinger. lol

I agree. When the narrator stated all those other things, I was like "wait, what? Nah bro. We like him because he's fluffin hilarious."

@13:12 oh i love his smart ass answers!  and he doesn't antagonize or try to cause trouble.  any trouble he is experiencing is the waste of time these officers are spending using their 1001 techniques book.

αɴαнαтα love

Yes he also had a very comical way of defying the cops. When they try to coax something out off him, he immediately calls their bluff and tells them to their face what their real objective is. It’s funny and at the same time pretty tragic that he know these techniques so well.


ehhh, its the legend of jeff the junkie.


It is remarkable that this guy, who is probably going through withdraw, is able to have a coherent conversation with detectives multiple times. It's astonishing that any evidence obtained through these interviews with this man would be admissible in a court of law. He isn't fit. He asked for a lawyer.

They tried to use statements i made while i was high against me one time on  a robbery charge... i was soooo gone off of xanax, and i was dope sick at the same time, and the cops came  up with this crazy scenario to get a response out of me, and  without thinking i said"hell nah i didnt do nothing like that, i just said i had a knife i never pulled it out" and baam,  I claimed coercion.  One charge was dropped the other dropped down to misdeamonr theft.  IDK if it was because of that, but i ended up doing about 6 months for 2 robbery charges.. needless to say i have changed my frickin life around.


Jeff has definitely binge watched JCS - Criminal Psychology.

No, but he's a street smart dope fiend. I'm in recovery so I've been there. It is bullshit they kept him in there for so many hours after asking for a lawyer. A tactic to get him talking but he knows it's b.s. even while starting to go through withdrawals which I can tell you from experience is the worst...soon enough he'll be puking all over the detective and shitting his pants.


where the hell is that lawyer he asked for??


No.1 rule.... Never talk to police officers without your lawyer

Criminal or not, keep that in mind, I mean, you all!

i made the mistake of talking to the police and waiving my right to remain silent and told them the whole story. only spent a week in juvie and got out w/o a charge so I'm a lucky case. But growing up my uncle had always told me to always ask for a lawyer before answering questions. Should've listened. But I'm lucky i had a fantastic attorney appointed to me. Could've ruined my chances to join the Army and I'm glad it didn't.

True. I have experienced it today. Traffic stop and they are nutritious at flipping the situation against you. Pretending to your friend until they get you to confess and then reality hits fines 2 points 👎
Lesson learned shut the f up!
You are your own enemy. In my case $200 fine and points. ☹

Especially for all you noncriminals out there. Police want a body if it's the actual assailant all the better if not case still closed.

NO. DO NOT TALK TO POLICE EVER, EVEN WITH A LAWYER.

That is the main thing that can drop a case the reason they ask things is bc they don’t know anything

Also remember, if they don't have warrant on you, do not let them get into your property such as; cars, houses, lands etc

I may be the first person that  ever  used the right to remain silent after being read my rights. It was 1966 and I was in 5he Army.  The company commander was going to punish me for being away from the motor pool and read me my rights.  He then asked me a question and I somehow had the sense to invoke my rights. End of conversation.  I’m simply amazed how many idiots talk their way into a cell.

EXACTLY!! I am a person that was never in trouble my whole life...but some people I was around got me in a bad situation, and I shouldn't have allowed it. Being "green" to how this all works & the unfortunate other instance similar after--(plus few domestic violence sit w my ex  he got off every time) I read the police reports I swear they were involved in a completely different case--or they were on drugs when recounting what I had said etc. Always had some very wrong info in the accounts that had it not been so serious it would have been laughable.

Later, I saw different lawyers on yt BEG people to say they will cooperate fully AFTER meeting w their attorney.

The police even as nice as pie get things mixed up, wrong, or it will be turned around on you so fast!

I learned my lesson the hard way having never had to deal with it till my late 40's. *Please get a lawyer before saying anything..be polite & cooperate after speaking w attorney!!

I sure wish i had known!!


That one difficult kid in school impossible to crack no matter how many teachers they throw at him lmao

@bLackstar err it kinda does to me just because I’m curious that’s all

@MetalizedButt does it matter ? He showed how it's done

@skullhart Do you happen to know if he was truly innocent? I tried looking this guy up couldn’t find any news on his situation

Good. Not everyone should crack. This guy is innocent until proven guilty anyway. Good for him he didn't fall for the dirty ass cop mind games.


This entire interview would be thrown out in court if this guy could afford a legit lawyer. He asked for a lawyer. That should have been the end of it. Everything said after that should be thrown out. Guilty or not, there are rules. And the cops are breaking them.

@Jake Clark Looks to me like they left him in the interview room for what looked like hours. Long after he asked for a lawyer. Picture that in front of a jury. The cops exploited his addiction and let him start going through withdrawals in order to make him as uncomfortable as possible so he would make spontaneous statements that would restart the conversation. He said he wanted to go back to his cell and not talk to the cops within a minute or so of the first cop arriving. They just sweated him out. It worked. That doesn't mean it's right.

Dude... it’s called “statements outside of Miranda”. These statements can be used to impeach past, future testimony or to buttress direct evidence. C’mon, Player

I think you may be confused on how the police acrually work lol

ITs even being recorded, you know, on a flash drive, with the possibility it might be cremated...


In case you’re ever in a situation like this you have to say: I invoke my right to remain silent/get an attorney. It’s key to do that, because in some cases when a suspect simply said nothing it was taken as evidence in front of the court. The police can twist and turn your statements and say that you didn’t make a clear indication that you were invoking your rights.

don't care tell that to the innocent, falsely accused, and coerced “confessed” inmates on death row.

Gee thanks but I hope I'll never be in that situation 😅

don't care mannnn we tryna get this money

me myself yeah that’s absolutely right. Just because you’re silent doesn’t mean they can’t ask questions and keep you there for hours on end

The problem is most people, while having thr right to remain silent, lack the ability. Cops know this and use it. If I am ever questioned by the police for anything outside of maybe a traffic stop, the only thing I will say is I want a lawyer. They will certainly use one. They will record everything you say. Get a lawyer and shut up.

Let’s hope we never get into a situation like that 😅


Jeff is innocent of the crime he is being accused of. What ever he did on his past. He served his time. He can't be guilty his whole life.

People especially the law judge you on past actions


i feel like both those end results are too ridiculous to be true. he probably just went back to his life as an addict, obviously wasn't charged with a crime here because theres no way he would've made bail (meaning he was absolutely right that they didn't have shit on him whatsoever), and hopefully stayed far fucking away from any pigs trying to do this to him again. i feel like he's out there doing okay, one addict to another, gettin high and gettin by.


Jeff, the smartest interviewee EVER to be questioned by authorities. He is forever imbedded in my consciousness in how to act under questioning. I’ve watched this three times and laughed more each time!


Legend has it, Jeff quit Heroin and is now addicted to Coke.

@Electronic the reason there is more deaths with sugar is because heroine is kinda illegal and harder to get than sugar

@Electronic say 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 not all people some if us are not into sugar that much.

He probably died and decomposed longtime ago.

He probably died and decomposed longtime ago.

Bad part is the coke will kill him quicker than the heroin!

Boom..u now own the internet..take a bow son

Boom..u now own the internet..take a bow son

@FricknScoob_ I hate being right, and I'm sad the discussion is over.  Thanks for being a bigger man than I initially perceived.

@Electronic you know what? as much as I hate to admit I'm wrong, I am. I just was defending that because of personal reasons that I'm not going to say, as you didn't. have a good one man

@FricknScoob_ Millions die from obesity every year, sugar is the biggest contributing factor by far because  heart disease, sugar AND obesity are all interlinked.  Opioid deaths are in the thousands vs millions, again thousands vs millions, need I say it again?  It's a silent killer, kills you from the inside out with little warning, sure it takes time for the sugar to make its mark but it is merciless in the damage it does. These studies are widely available, there are Youtube videos about it, sure okay, maybe not a direct comparison between opiates and sugar but how overlooked artificial sugars are in society, is criminal.  And the fact that every heroin addict is also a sugar addict proves my case about which is more endemic of the two.  And for the record, I am closely linked with addicts in my life, I won't admit to anything but I know more than you would hope for me to admit.  Take it easy and don't assume anything about anybody, fair warning.  Cheers.

@Electronic Tbh, I don't wanna keep this going because it's a waste of time. But, I feel like I have to as well. First off, when have you cited any source at all or provided any link or data? And please tell me when you put me in my place when I shut down your entire argument earlier with direct fact? And it is extremely obvious, after how oblivious you are to the actual extent of heroin use and the fact that it affects a person directly a lot worse than sugar can in a shorter amount of time. Does sugar constipate a person for WEEKS and does feces build up until you literally explode from the inside? No, but heroin does. I think I'm done here ;)

@FricknScoob_ first off was I speaking to you? Did I tag you? Exactly. So ur comment to me is super irrelevant. U can keep commenting back but u won't get much from me cuz I wasn't directly speaking to you in the first place❤

@Ziyania Monroe first off, I was born into an addictive family so I'm about 110% sure I know what I'm talking about when it comes to drugs and the bad side behind them. second off, if you took the sugar out of your diet, it is way less harmful for your body then if you've been on heroin half your life then quit. if a man was 330lb, had nothing but absolute dogshit in their diet and had never eaten healthy their whole life, they could still make a complete change in their lives and lose all of the weight and lower their blood pressure and cholesterol with determination and effort. with heroin, if you had been addicted for a multitude of yrs, you won't just be able to stop at the drop of a pen. yes sugar has withdrawals but unless you've been a heroin addict and have been through the withdrawals you have no place to speak

@Ziyania Monroe I know man, I knew people wouldn't be able to handle this, there are multiple studies that back up what I've said regarding artificial sugar.  And yeah, I've read the boring scientific papers, I'm not the hero of this story.  Just an annoying messenger telling people they're wrong, I don't really care if they believe otherwise.  Ignorance is bliss.

@FricknScoob_ Umm, your body doesn't naturally flush heroin out though?  What are you getting at?

@Dank Vibes there are children born with parents that are addicted to drugs, and then the kid is addicted and can't live without it and has withdraws at birth everyone just needs to do a little more research because regardless of what it is addiction works the same. It trains your body to need it, and not be able to go without it. That's why withdraws exist.

I think it’s wrong to even try to get a confession from someone who is going through withdrawals... that’s almost akin as getting a ‘forced confession’. If this is the way police deals with these situations.. that’s just very wrong, give them the methadon so they can think clearly. Any -other way I don’t see how anything a person says under these conditions, could be taken to court? Or  a ‘written confession” under these circumstances. Why do you think people often turn to criminality, ... to get their drugs as they are in cycle. Would they normally do this? Addiction robs people of morality, and or making the right decisions. They would do anything and yes the withdrawal is horrible and lasts for weeks. I don’t know if it’s legal, but it should be inadmissible, evidence the police got from people either under influence or in withdrawal.

@FricknScoob_ In all seriousness, I think you're right for the most part. However, my comment was more about how so many ppl got really worked up about sugar and missed the initial 'play on words' joke that was made.

@AFS007 any substance can be a gateway drug if it is abused

So from what I've deduced from these comments ... SUGAR is the true gateway drug

@Electronic that's bs, it depends on the substance. heroin, on one hand, is a physically addictive drug. if you stopped consuming sugar, your body will naturally flush the sugar out of your system. if you stopped consuming heroin without a methodone or suboxone, your body would literally shut down internally and let the immune system take over and try to flush the bad out as much as it can. that's why people puke so much during detox. your body after using heroin literally craves it like water after an exercise. and also, don't talk about peoples addictions and how there are "barely any opioid deaths" when the us is literally in it's worst state for opioids since the introduction of synthetic opioids. well, I think I won this one ;)

How did he afford that?  Is he an informant now?  So many plot twist with this one comment I can think of...

Electronic while i do i agree sugar is as addictive as actual white coke , what choice do we have to leave it , its in everything we eat even fruits make sugar since we modified so much . Our whole society are sugar junkies but i doubt we can leave it since we were introduced since birth to it , if we stop eating sugar our bodies would probably shut down and kill us like some drug withdrawls. Even medical science has integrated the belief that having too low sugar is bad and not at all withdrawal symptoms . Anyways my point being is we are lost at this point .

@Electronic Jesus Christ, Iamverymart much? Calm down, kid. What'd you take, one psychology class in HS?

Jokes about people’s addiction is not funny. Addiction is a serious disease.

@Electronic All human experience is psychological.

Local Milk soda i think is the biggest issue how many people get water instead of soda when they get mcdonalds or other fast food is p bad

@Electronic heroin is psychologically addictive

@Local Milk  They give newborns sugar laden pacifiers in the OR to calm them down, hooked from the moment they enter the world.  Sugar is actually an opiate analgesic, affecting dopamine receptors aka a painkiller.  Sugar also reduces withdrawal symptoms.

This argument is mine to win, anyone want to actually step up and try?

@Alina Tokaeva Everybody is addicted to sugar, how can you say it's less addiciting than heroin?  Hardly anyone takes heroin. And those that take Heroin also take sugar.

Electronic if you seriously think sugar is more addictive than heroin then I have bad news for you...

@al30 7Antony  Actually sugar is far worse than heroin, it's the junk they put in heroin that can be bad.  Sugar is the most addictive substance on Earth and we are all hooked, line and sinker.  Last I checked heart disease and obesity kill millions a year in the U.S. while opiate overdoes are in the thousands.

Technically better than heroine in terms of its detriment on one’s life.

Hahaha ain't it the truth. Drop the dope, pick up the coke 😬


So basically, I've watched an ad for Heroin, Coke and Bad Santa.

You might also like Crystal Meth and Breaking bad.

Im inclining more towards the Butterfinger... Do we get a sequel of this where he get this Butterfinger?


Where’s the guy’s lawyer? He clearly requested one.

@Kristine Hansen Legends are like assholes; world's full of them, and you're even speaking to a living one right now🤣

EDIT: A living legend that is 😋

Is Jeff really a Legend? Is the guy commentating really even a decent psychoanalyst? Is @A L a professional clown? Is @bobby sanders a grammar teacher? I mean c'mon guys- wtf are we even doing here? 😂😂😂

@TheBrando28 IKR- it's not like his period button doesn't work- it's just the dolt is too friggin' lazy to hit it. His comment is now inadmissible😂😂😂

@bobby sanders Your use of punctuation is about as good their detective work. What- you like to use every key on the keyboard except for the comma and period? Your comment is inadmissible 😂😂😂

in the United States a loyer is to be provided within 24 hours

A L You’re conflating Salinas v. Texas’ finding in which the Court ruled that one must expressly invoke one’s Fifth Amendment right to remain silent with the Sixth Amendment’s right to legal counsel. “I want my lawyer” is plenty. The police OUGHT to immediately stop questioning him at that point. But that would require ethics and lawful conduct. Attorney and law professor James Duane of the U. of Va. covers this subject matter expertly on YouTube in a two-part video series entitled “Don’t Talk to the Police,” and in his related book “You Have the Right to Remain Innocent.” <b>IANAL; this is not legal advice.</b>

A L You’re conflating Salinas v. Texas’ finding in which the Court ruled that one must expressly invoke one’s Fifth Amendment right to remain silent with the Sixth Amendment’s right to legal counsel. “I want my lawyer” is plenty. The police OUGHT to immediately stop questioning him at that point. But that would require ethics and lawful conduct. Attorney and law professor James Duane of the U. of Va. covers this subject matter expertly on YouTube in a two-part video series entitled “Don’t Talk to the Police,” and in his related book “You Have the Right to Remain Innocent.” *IANAL; this is not legal advice.*

@bobby sanders you are correct. No judge would hold legalese against a non-attorney litigant.

Once he asks for a lawyer, anything that is said after that point becomes inadmissible in court. That is why the cop said “you have hand cuffed me”. Obviously, they don’t have a hundreds of defense lawyers sitting at the police department waiting for someone to request a lawyer. So they just send him back to his cell until Jeff decides to speak with the detective. Maybe he got on the phone with a lawyer, in which case that lawyer would just tell him to stay quiet no matter what happens. Jeff is the one who decided to talk to detectives, they didn’t force him to.

@bobby sanders there's one period in that entire comment

@A L please dont go spreading wrong infos about anything, people like you makes me not believe most of the things i see on internet that i dont know of.

Jacob Smith exactly lol. I don’t know what that clown was thinking you don’t have to say “pretty please may I get a lawyer I’m using my rights!”

A L I’ve been interrogated before, it doesn’t fucking matter how you say it. If you tell them you want a lawyer you get a lawyer. If Jeff even gave a fuck he would’ve said it more than one time. And also if you say you want a lawyer and stop talking what are they gonna do? Sit there and stare at you? No, they’re gonna get you a lawyer so they have more of a chance to get evidence out of you rather than you sitting there silent. They’d be hoping your lawyer fucks up and you say something stupid.   TLDR: It doesn’t matter how you say it.

@A L You are asserting stuff equivalent to how "sovereign citizens" behave. Acting as if a few buzzwords will protect you legally. That isn't how the world works. There is no magic words doctrine with requesting a lawyer. Cops are not lawyers trying to extrapolate loop holes. They are there to get you to keep talking. The more you talk the more likely you are to a) incriminate yourself of the crime you were detained/arrested for, b) perjure yourself, or c) admit to a crime you were not previously arrested/detained for.

Simply request a lawyer and shut up. That's all that is required of you. You don't have to do it with a specific word order or as a key phrase. Just shut up. If you say nothing then they have to gasp rely on the evidence in order to convict you.

@A L You are asserting stuff equivalent to how "sovereign citizens" behave. Acting as if a few buzzwords will protect you legally. That isn't how the world works. There is no magic words doctrine with requesting a lawyer. Cops are not lawyers trying to extrapolate loop holes. They are there to get you to keep talking. The more you talk the more likely you are to a) incriminate yourself of the crime you were detained/arrested for, b) perjure yourself, or c) admit to a crime you were not previously arrested/detained for.

Simply request a lawyer and shut up. That's all that is required of you. You don't have to do it with a specific word order or as a key phrase. Just shut up. If you say nothing then they have to *gasp* rely on the evidence in order to convict you.

@Jay Harter no, "i am asserting my right to an attorney"

A L you're wrong dude. And the fact that he didn't sign the paper saying that he understood his rights so nothing that he even said would have been up holdable in court regardless in the fact that he did say I need a lawyer I want a lawyer suspects are not attorneys nor do he need speak in a attorney languages to articulate that he needs a lawyer he said it more than three times that's why they sent a different Detective in there when he asked for I another soda but he played the s*** out of them and they violated his rights which was mainly probably the cause for his release in all of that video evidence is the other reason why his case probably will get thrown out thanks to the stupid overzealous uneducated tyrants their job is to make the arrest collect the evidence presented to the district attorney and prosecutor and let the system work it's self but no 9 out of 10 times these cops have to do what you're not supposed to do and be judge jury and executioner well after they are part of the process is done I hope Jeff found some help got his self-clean I end it with this they had him around a firearm that was similar to the firearm that was used in a robbery so apparently the store clerk was not willing to testify which also means there's no camera and that store or on any door or house from the store to Jeff's friends house but they still do have a gun with no fingerprints on it so now they really don't have anything but a stolen gun off the streets probably they had so much evidence Jeff would have never got that first can of Coke or II or that Butterfinger good night if you don't talk to Cops you don't go to jail.

This is something that is always misunderstood. Saying something like, "I need a lawyer," or, "I want a lawyer" is not a specific enough assertion of rights and is a loophole that officers often use to prevent suspects from getting access to a lawyer. You must say, "I am asserting my right to an attorney, and I am asserting my right to remain silent" for officers to be constitutionally bound to provide you with one.

I wonder if thats why theybkeep reading his rights, maybe it nullifies the request


why does it sound like the person arrested has a mic on but the coo doesn’t ??? seems like a skit lol


cops: you have the right to remain silent
jeff: .....
cops: wait. thats illegal

cops: you have the right to remain silent
jeff: .....
cops: *wait. thats illegal*

@Megan Smith remaining silent under questioning is a fundamental right. it is NOT obstruction. thats the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. a cop might arrest you for "obstruction" if you refuse to answer questions, but that would be a wrongful arrest. cops act outside the law like this all the time.

@Megan Smith You can't pretend you're deaf and mute, but once they tell you that you have the right to remain silent, you tell them you want a lawyer and from that point on, you can pretend you're a table for all it matters. Matter of fact, I recommend anyone do this as cops and prosecutors tend to cut corners when it comes to things like this. The results of such lackadaisical attitude is deprivation of civil liberties on a gross scale.

lol, you can't just pretend you're suddenly deaf and mute. That could be considered obstruction. You still have to respond to the police, but you can legally respond with, "No comment," or "Get me a lawyer." I would recommend saying both repeatedly until you actually talk to a lawyer.

I think the lesson is to never ever talk to cops about something you're accused of. So just repeat: "I wish to exercise my right to remain silent." or "I do not recall.".


Things should’ve stopped once he requested a lawyer several times. Regardless of his innocence or guilt, he should be given counsel if he requested it. This is a shame.

@johnny bird Buddy, he has previous convictions, it is even talked about in the video. He may not be a mafia don or a drug lord, but he is a junkie with previous convictions. I think calling him a criminal works.

Patrick Star Pull the wool from your eyes and do YOUR OWN research..you’ll be surprised how much and how quickly you find proof if you just LOOK for it 🤦🏾♂

Moodymongul Imagine being so brainwashed by the criminals you think EVERYONE who isn’t a cop is a “criminal” 🤦🏾♂😂

Noor Daghlas It doesn’t matter at all he asked for a lawyer EACH AND EVERY TIME..he requested counsel therefore question STOPS it’s really that simple

He only came out if his cell for coke after.

@Patrick Higgins if he served his time, he is no longer a criminal. That is the issue...A suspect is not a criminal, we are presumed innocent for a reason... We have rights for a reason... Letting police and gov fk with our rights is not correct in any way shape or form.

 The subtle manipulation of portions of the population to call their fellow citizens criminals randomly when they haven't been convicted... that's scandalous...

we should want to help this man. So our taxes stop going to the police in handling these cases... we should want him in detox.. not a prison... America has high recidivism for a reason when other advanced nations do not. We need to learn and copy them... Cops lie, steal, cheat, and harass American citizens far to much.

Btw, we all have committed criminal  acts just we haven't been caught. Stop letting our rights get trampled on. We should really want people like this man to get help. Not be put in jail..  he needs to be shown a future so he stops doing drugs... not being fkd with by a cop when high who is trying to force him into giving a false confession...

Ridiculous

@catsandporn 2:01 he literally just said he has had prior convictions. if that doesnt make him a criminal then i dont know what does

@johnny bird 2:01 he just said that he has had prior convictions. that makes him a criminal

@Ay1 i have never heard of  manipulated video's from the police. mind sharing where you got that info from

@catsandporn he never called this guy a criminal.  He mentioned the behavior of some criminals.  But never labeled this guy one.  Everyone here is so quick to jump to conclusions.

@ZarMiningInc Everytime he asked he was taken back to his cell.  He was only brought back for questioning when he asked to be brought back.  There's alot of ignorance in this comment thread.  That cop knows he's on film and knows that if he breaks procedure his case is gone.  That's why he read him his rights every time they talked.

@catsandporn he is a criminal.  He's been convicted in the past.  He is both a suspect in this situation and a criminal.

He asked for council but council wouldn't be available untile the next day most likely.  Every time he asked for a lawyer he was taken back to his cell and was only brought back in for questioning when he asked for it.

Moodymongul he’s accused of a crime . Stop calling people accused of crimes criminals .

Actually, how many fucking times does someone have to ask?

This is what I call a 'useless argument'

@Moodymongul calling a suspect a criminal, nice going.

@that respectablehuman and judging by the sounds of crumpling tin foil coming from your comment, I assume I have found a delusional paranoid on YT.  <br>Curiouser and curiouser ..

@that respectablehuman and judging by the sounds of crumpling tin foil coming from your comment, I assume I have found a delusional paranoid on YT.
Curiouser and curiouser ..

Nope.  That just shows a criminal can be professional and 'think' they know their rights :)
Thankfully, criminals also have distorted egos and self importance issues.
Which really gives police a great 'in' to work with.
The funniest is when criminals watch videos (like this) and think they can learn anything ..other than how to entrap themselves with a good interviewer :)

They stopped it immediately the first time but he twice asked to see them to get a coke lol he's not exactly in the right here


"I want a lawyer"
Officer: I'm gonna pretend I didnt hear that

"I want a lawyer"
Officer: *I'm gonna pretend I didnt hear that*

@Laser Panda I think we've had the same one

Imagine checking out the Youtube comments and seeing your attorney in there having juvenile arguments with strangers and shitting all over the working class...

@J D Isn't that what he did? Said he didn't do it he was at his buddy's house. Or do you have to say more than that?

P.S. my dad is Obama and my mom is an attorney so no one is allowed to criticize me or question what I say online ever

@J D "you're a plumber" lmao what is this projection. Bro, seriously, post some credentials. If you're a professor, prove it. Of course, you aren't, so you won't.

I won't engage your examples because you're a sophist not arguing in good faith, and your trespassing example especially shows a complete lack of understanding of the criminal justice process. I would suggest you watch the Regent University School of Law talk entitled "Don't talk to the Police". It's fantastic and may help with some of your misconceptions.

Furthermore I'd like to recommend that you stop lying about credentials on the internet. It's okay to be uninformed and have an opinion on something but hiding behind a fake legal career is absurd and doesn't make you seem any smarter to anyone. Nor does accusing people of being unintelligent plumbers (many of whom, by the way, are small business owners and far more successful and capable than most).

@J D who would have thought a law professor would know nothing about the law. Crazy world we live in huh.

@SonofKiernan So if your niece is kidnapped, get a lawyer and don't speak to police, got it.

People on the Internet are so dumb.

@Marade Who would have thought that a former AG would have an anime avatar.

@Will Bennett
Watts v Indiana: "any lawyer worth his salt will tell the suspect in no uncertain terms to make no statement to police under any circumstances",

 Ohio v Reiner: “emphasized that one of the Fifth Amendment’s basic functions is to protect innocent men who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances.”,

 Quinn v Warren: right to remain silent is "a safeguard against heedless, unfounded, or tyrannical prosecutions".

Insane that a supposed law professor doesn't know basic first year constitutional law. It's almost like he's a lying sophist with insane misconceptions about the legal system.

@J D Actually I'm a law professor at Harvard and Yale, was AG of the United States for 10 years and I say you're wrong. Why do you feel the need to lie about your qualifications to strangers on the internet?

@J D As your internet defense attorney, my advice is to take the L and move on. Always get an attorney period, guilty or innocent

@J D you’re not fooling anyone. You’re not a lawyer or law professor. Just because you call yourself “J D” for Juris Doctor doesn’t make you a lawyer or law professor. No real law professor would waste their time “educating” people on situations and exceptions the way you are doing so. You’ve been picked apart by a few real law experts.

You also claim to be a defense attorney telling people to talk to the cops if it benefits you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Good one. 👍

@Da Medusa Says the non-lawyer. All rules have exceptions. What if a young relative of yours was kidnapped and the police call you in for questioning. Do you remain silent, looking guilty as hell, so they waste valuable time looking into you instead of finding your relative and the real bad guy?

I once knew a guy who had just graduated from high school, a former football player. He used to sneak into the high school weight room to work out, and his former coach knew it and was OK with it. One night he sneaks in to workout, and sets off a newly-installed burglar alarm. Police come, and he, thinking he is so clever, says "I'll just remain silent." Instead of telling the cops that he had permission to use the weight room, now he's a collar for trespassing. He was afraid to call in the coach later to testify because he was hoping to be coach someday. But of course that is ruined with a misdemeanor  trespassing at a school conviction on his record!

General rule is don't talk to police. But there are numerous exceptions. The law is based on fact patterns, so general blanket rules are troublesome.

@J D well I find it difficult to believe you are. Because it never goes down the way you describe.

@Will Bennett Proof that you have zero reading comprehension, I made it clear that I was not giving advice. But there are circumstances where speaking to the police is in a person's interest. If you think all cops are evil and want to frame you for crimes you didn't commit, that sounds like a personal problem.

Also, a false confession is as good as a real one to a cop. They get their conviction either way. And they have plenty of tools at their disposal to coerce you into confessing to a crime you didn't commit and are more than willing to use them on naive innocent people who don't know any better.

@J D This is ridiculous advice. As a lawyer you should know how many innocent people go to jail specifically because they perceived the police as good faith actors when 9 times out of 10 that couldn't be further than the truth. Only in crime dramas do police prioritize the truth. In reality their only priority is getting a conviction, and they will do everything within their power to attain that.

If you're innocent of a crime you're being accused of, ask for a lawyer. And if you're guilty of a crime you're accused of DEFINITELY ask for a lawyer.

As a black man in Alabama, I have a slew of stories about police being bad faith actors who give a rat's ass if you're innocent, starting from when I was as young as 13. I was accused of a crime I didn't commit when I was 23 and neglected to ask for a lawyer, foolishly believing the police had any interest in the truth. Luckily the truth exonerated me but not before the police took it upon themselves to punish me just for NOT being guilty and allowing them to get their precious conviction, and only after they tried to fabricate evidence against me (a phenomenon I've also experienced more than once). In the end they made up a phony story that I was loitering just to charge me with something--an accusation that also wasn't true btw. The only reason I've never been convicted of anything is because of incompetence on the part of the cops who tried to frame me, but certainly not for lack of their trying.

@C P not while he was being interrogated.

@Skellie X not every attorney good attorney. Yet any better than none. Think about it this way - if you find yourself in sticky situation, you no way have enough experience to figure if this is one of those rare exceptions. You will think that you be fine by speaking to police, but in fact, everything you tell them will be used against you.

@J D I would invoke the 5th and then i LL JUST STFU

@J D stupid will go home, smart will go to jail, that is fine with me. BTW, do you know why exceptions called "exceptions" and not "rules"?

@Crazmuss I guess you'd know better than an attorney. 🙄

@J D that is never happens. On the other hand, if you innocent simple explanation can get you in jail - that happens a lot.

Nothing he said after I want a lawyer is admissible right.... Yeah never talk to cops. Say nothing, say get my lawyer and be done unless you have proof you were elsewhere or whatever. But, I'd still get a lawyer first before speaking about it.

@Not My Tempo I am a lawyer. And law professor. My point is all rules have exceptions. And there is often a big difference between what an innocent person and a guilty person should do during police encounters. An innocent person arrested for robbery should generally explain his alibi rather than just sit in jail for days if not weeks. This is legal education, not legal advice.

@J D then go ahead and incriminate yourself without a lawyer

@Not My Tempo I'd rather just not rot in jail and skip the whole unpleasant experience, thanks.

@J D then you can sue them for wrongfully holding you

@Not My Tempo This is called being too smart by a half. What if you are innocent, and a simply explanation can prove that and get you released, instead of possibly held for days, if not convicted?

Hope he did, cause i noticed that they kept him there as much as they could without one jusr to get info out of him

After watching these interrogation videos, I’m never saying anything to the police without a lawyer


This cop violating his rights by continuing to talk to him after Jeff asked for a lawyer.

@HitchensImmortal yesss , I am pleased to hear it

@Ethan Cadle I made a joke :p .. only I got it though

@Nate Tooke He started to answer questions because the cops wouldn't give him a way to deal with withdrawal otherwise. Not sure what else you wanted him to do.

@Só Léo And then Jeff, somehow unaware of how to exercise his rights, started to answer questions. You may not want to blame Jeff for the fact that he is a heroin addict, but it is a fact and that's the reality of the situation.

@devon jones you really missed the entire point

@Bill Sugar helps. Also he asked for medication at the start and they refused to provide it.

@Bill bruh caffeine is a stimulant of fucking course he’s still gonna withdrawal but damn let the man get some sort of comforting feeling from the sugar

@Só Léo he's addicted to heroin, not coke !

@Só Léo well I mean it’s not like he ain’t going thru withdrawal in the cell as well

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun They kept him there against his will, knowing he was suffering from withdrawal, it's essentialy torture.

Nope. They made a deal and Jeff changed his mind.


“Wam bam thank you for the coke, put me back in the cell” incredible.

Like Suffragette City. "Wam bam thank you ma'am!"

Me Too is going so well for the Clintons 🙂👍

OmNomGaming sorry I didn’t scroll through 3 months worth of comments to make sure no one said it before me

Literally just a copy of the same comment from 3 months ago

Derp Derps who ever said all addicts are stupid - addiction and intelligence are separate things

@Derp Derps The word junkie is a society word to put people down it legitimate addiction problems. You really have to look at the person and not see a junkie but a person with problems.

@Derp Derps some of the smartest people on Earth are/were junkies. Granted, they don't live very long and I understand the knee jerk response of "well how smart can you be if make the choice to start using heroin?" That's a good question. And it's a question that William Burroughs, Miles Davis, Florence Nightingale, Charles Dickens, Charlie Parker, Howard Hughes, Marcus Aurelius, and Will Wilberforce (just to name a few) may have had an answer to. Not to mention the thousands of doctors/surgeons who live (or lived) their entire adult lives as closet opiate junkies.

I swear after I heard that I was going to write it down in the comments but you already did before me

@carlyhlavaty Right to remain silent is kinda obvious. It doesn't take recursive criminal to figure that out.

@Derp Derps crazy, it's like people who suffer from addiction can be educated people inspite of their disease

I Dont believe it...he had 1 foot not 6 feet

A little can,,,,go a Long way - in this specific case "a little" turns epic!


guy on the right sounds like a total chad, man.


Jeff is the best anti-hero(ineaddict)<br>Pls dont steal my comment that's my first good one

Jeff is the best anti-hero(ineaddict)
Pls dont steal my comment that's my first good one


Jeff is a legend, hard to dislike him honestly.

@outlaw71 doubt he would do such a thing.

@outlaw71 I just reviewed. Give me the time mark he admitted to robbery. A junkie admitting he's been through the system isn't an admission of guilt anymore than the fact pig cops lie to generate revenue and destroy lives.

@outlaw71 you just stated that a man who remained silent is an admitted robber.<br>Wow.

@outlaw71 you just stated that a man who remained silent is an admitted robber.
Wow.


Not me crushing on the guy going through heroin withdrawal.


imagine sitting there with the boys, all the sudden police surrounds the house, and then u get free coke at a police station.

but you have to go through withdrawals after 10~ years.


They just push until they get what they want, what they did not count on is the addiction that he battles with is far worse than any punishment!


Legend has it, that Jeff is still being questioned to this very day....  and, that police department's coke budget has ballooned...

Miles Gentry if only people knew what 'sick' feels like. Everyone who treats dopesick people badly need to feel it for a while. They'd emphathise a LOT more then. By the way, the dean of a certain major university was on oxy's for years, he successfuly withdrew one year ago, but you d never have imagined it. So no you don't have to be this street thief charaxter or bad person even to get caught up w painkillers

Legend also has it that he never did get that Butterfinger.

Dude's kickin dope in the cell, withdrawing, sick as hell.<br>That coke is his only comfort.

Dude's kickin dope in the cell, withdrawing, sick as hell.
That coke is his only comfort.

Lol. They gotta cut a deal with Butterfinger and Coke to offset the costs.


He asked for a lawyer. That’s end of story. But 5 hours later they’re still trying to interview him??

@Amehdion its every state, it's a federal right

@princesstamika well the issue, in my opinion, is that it's not solely a racial issue, and framing it as such in the manner that the BLM movement has, including talking about out-right removing police forces, only serves to derail from a serious conversation that needs to be had about police brutality in general (far more white men are actually killed by police than black men, and there are many instances where black cops are perpetrators, so it affects everyone) and measures that need to be taken to prevent it. Measures such as addressing poverty and community policing, gun ownership, stop and frisk, and an overhaul in training and base requirements. The latter, by the way, would require more funding, not less, and would also cause outrage at the fact that certain requirements might exclude many women from certain police work; a women such as myself whose 100lbs soaking wet necessitates the use of a force multiplier in order to adequately detain and assert control over a much larger and stronger perpetrator, which is the very thing we're trying to prevent.

Now, I'm not saying that the killing of unarmed black men shouldn't be something that the black community specifically focuses on, much as I see no problem with feminists focusing on reproductive rights/health, sexual assault and the position of women in third world nations (issues that specifically impact women), I'm saying that to demand that the sole focus be about race, in terms of a national discourse, is incredibly myopic and not actually solving anything.

@princesstamika well the issue, in my opinion, is that it's not solely a racial issue, and framing it as such in the manner that the BLM movement has, including talking about out-right removing police forces, only serves to derail from a serious conversation that needs to be had about police brutality in general (far more white men are actually killed by police than black men, and there are many instances where black cops are perpetrators, so it affects everyone) and measures that need to be taken to prevent it. Measures such as addressing poverty and community policing, gun ownership, stop and frisk, and an overhaul in training and base requirements. The latter, by the way, would require *more* funding, not less, and would also cause outrage at the fact that certain requirements might exclude many women from certain police work; a women such as myself whose 100lbs soaking wet necessitates the use of a force multiplier in order to adequately detain and assert control over a much larger and stronger perpetrator, which is the very thing we're trying to prevent.

Now, I'm not saying that the killing of unarmed black men shouldn't be something that the black community specifically focuses on, much as I see no problem with feminists focusing on reproductive rights/health, sexual assault and the position of women in third world nations (issues that specifically impact women), I'm saying that to demand that the sole focus be about race, in terms of a national discourse, is incredibly myopic and not actually solving anything.

@Anon that's not projecting, that's called making an inference. i don't think you know what projection means.

@velyan12 you're the one projecting with conspiracies and MAGA hat

Americans talking about laws and rights in 2020. If you are white, you have no rights. Corporatist Hellhole. "Muh Freedoms"
People get more jail for buying drugs from themselves, than people who bankrupt others and literally cause some people to suicide because of their financial speculation, errors etc...
America, where the freedom fighters on the streets share the opinions and views of Coke and McDonalds.
China sounds great right about now, hell North Korea is sounding better every day.

Mikaela Renè Know what you are talking about before you speak!!! No they are not. Legally the very second he says he wants an attorney the interview HAS to be ended and no further questions can be asked and if they continue to ask and he answers any of them? Absolutely inadmissible!!!

@Moreno James *attorney. Spot on agree 100%

Fifth Amendment wasn't exercised. You need to tell them "I am exercising my right to silence and want/requesting/exercising my right to an attourney/lawyer". And then you SHUT UP. DO NOT TALK. Don't ask for water, don't respond to requests, don't talk at all. Just sit there, silent, and wait. <br>Anything else can be argued in court against you and your right to silence. Jeff didn't do that. It was legal.

Fifth Amendment wasn't exercised. You need to tell them "I am exercising my right to silence and want/requesting/exercising my right to an attourney/lawyer". And then you SHUT UP. DO NOT TALK. Don't ask for water, don't respond to requests, don't talk at all. Just sit there, silent, and wait.
Anything else can be argued in court against you and your right to silence. Jeff didn't do that. It was legal.

@1onefix1 You are an angry little fella aren't  ya?

@Rjay its a fact. If you want your case thrown out then go ahead and question after denying a person a lawyer.

@Amehdion its called google, do your own homework or ask mommy. What are you 12, ever hear of miranda.

Amehdion I see people’s confession being throw out because the word “lawyer”, it is illegal to obtain a confession after them asked for a lawyer. I watched to many interrogations to know their confession will be out of a trial and the DA going crazy about it.

He went for the interview. They didn't keep interrogating him.

@Amehdion
Miranda Rights
 The police must immediately stop probing if the detainee invokes either the right to remain silent or the right to counsel. If the suspect invokes the latter, questioning must cease until counsel is available. But if the detainee invokes only the right to remain silent, the police may reinitiate questioning at a later time, provided that they honor the right to remain silent.
What it means to “honor” the right to remain silent after a suspect invokes it isn't always entirely clear. Courts consider the circumstances of renewed questioning, including the passage of time, whether the police gave fresh Miranda warnings, and whether they asked questions about a different crime.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/questioning-after-claiming-miranda.html

@Amehdion according the legal precedent set by Miranda vs. Arizona, when a suspect invokes their right to counsel all interrogation and questioning must immediately cease until counsel is present. However, if a suspect has been properly mirandized, they can waive those rights, including right to counsel, by voluntarily initiating conversation and showing an intended desire to discuss the crime.

 Invoking the right to remain silent works differently in that a suspect can still be questioned, without counsel present, at a later date or after a certain amount of time has passed, providing they are again read their Miranda rights.

Whether any of the aforementioned was violated in this particular interrogation, I can't say for sure. It looked to me that in the beginning of the video the suspect simply invoked his 5th amendment right, i.e. "I don't talk to you motherf**kers". Which, as previously stated, in that situation the officers are legally permitted to question him at later time after again reading him his rights; which they did. It was only later in the video that I explicitly heard him request legal counsel, and in that case the interrogation is legally obligated to cease until his attorney is present.

It is as if they want someone to speak... even after they have said he can remain silent

Y'all. They have a 1st Ammendment right to ask him anything. What is this Hollywood bullshit about 'oh he asked for a lawyer now I can't talk to him' I keep hearing about? God damn.

@Dragan L Yes, except he told them he was willing to speak to them again (he happened to admit doing it for a coke), and if you notice they read him his rights a second time, so in that case...it's legal. Now, if they didn't read him his rights again...

@1onefix1 HEY GUYS BEING CONCERNED FOR YOUR RIGHTS AROUND POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE KNOWN TO ABUSE RIGHTS AND TRY TO BUILD CASES AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE IS VIRTUE SIGNALLING!!! MY BRAIN IS SO BIIIIIG!!!!!!

They don't have to stop asking him questions, he just can choose not to answer

@velyan12 there's no mention of MAGA et al. in his post though, so you're also projecting.

@Mikaela Renè No, when he asks for a lawyer they cannot continue questioning him "until council is present". However, there isn't a time limit for how long it can take to get a lawyer there.

@velyan12
People who project tend to be less perceptive. And secure.
The topic of psychology is either foreign or anathema to individuals such as 1onefix1.
To try and make life and reality more simple is not inherently wrong.
As long as you are aware of what is actually real.

This does not apply to the person above.

@1onefix1 Projecting much? No mention of white people here mate. There's psychology, addiction and repercussions on the menu, you might as well take your conspiracies and MAGA hat to another diner

@Dragan L Can you name the statute that states it is illegal for a cop to question someone after they have requested a lawyer?

@wanny fairy it was kinda dangerous.  He was pretty close to giving them a time. But he fought the urge. It sucks we as a speacies wanna please so many people. To a fault.

Or it was an act on his part, which only makes him cooler.

They’re allowed to do that unfortunately. Even if they plead the fifth amendment they’re allowed to keep asking questions.

He said he would talk to them for a second time if they got him a coke or butterfingers. Lol they got him the coke but he still didn't talk. Totally legal,


Loved where he was told he had the right to remain silent and he sat in silence. Well played sir. Well played.


“Am I getting a coke, or is this a fairytale.” Lmaoooo The guys clever and smart. Good luck, Jeff!

I hope he was released and didn't get convicted with any bullshit :D


It sounds like Lou Ann's boyfriend Lucky in King of the Hill


jeff: I want a lawyer

Officer: may i offer you a coke in this trying time?

Oh Frank’s got a co- <b>proceeds to vomit blood</b>

Oh Frank’s got a co- *proceeds to vomit blood*

Jeff - I want a lawyer

Cop - perhaps a coke to quench your thirst?

Jeff - I want a lawyer

Cop - *perhaps a coke to quench your thirst?*


Cop: you have the right to remain silent
Jeff: ......
Cop: you weren’t supposed to do that

But he Did sir. and He should, and he would, could, cared for it.


This interview should have stopped when he asked for a lawyer.

I think he probably later said that he wouldn’t speak to a lawyer but he would talk to them, but it was really just to get a coke

@GraySheep1717 It's just damage control, an actual troll wouldn't say so.

@ThatOneQueerExtra Half thawed hot pockets are the worst. Siberian Tundra like Ice crystals at one end and molten lavaesque sauce at the other. Literally the epitome of the phrase "fml" no matter what end you bite into.

@Amber McDonald It’s a great question. The Supreme Court has made it clear that a person in Jeff’s position has to clearly and definitively assert their desire to seek counsel and clearly state that they will not answer any further questions (i.e. clearly invoke their 5th amendment right not to incriminate themselves) and then, most importantly, STOP TALKING. If they say they want a lawyer but then seem to keep talking or responding, then the police are free to assume that the person has changed their mind and voluntarily extended the interview and wants to keep talking. But, if the arrestee has properly invoked their rights, the police are supposed to stop the interrogation immediately. Assuming that happens properly, then the person would meet with a lawyer who would likely advise them to invoke their 5th amendment right not to incriminate themselves, thereby shifting the entire burden of proof onto the police and prosecution who may or may not already have enough evidence to bring charges. Many times, a suspect talking provides essential evidence.

Yep! Soon as he said I want a lawyer they should have said ok and took him to his cell. They continued to bother him they know he’s starting to go through withdrawal. I hope anything is thrown out because he clearly was continued to be interviewed after he said he wants a lawyer !

@iraqi garfield In hindsight, that makes sense actually lol, not sure why you waited so long to tell us though

You know I only posted that to just get a reaction out of all of you right

@iraqi garfield boy..you sure went quiet there 😂

@iraqi garfield You people will literally take any opportunity to boot lick to the police, and personally, I don’t even think it’s because you love authority or whatever, you just will say ANYTHING to “own the libs” just my take on your disability.

It's crazy how much time passed between interviews where he invokes his right to an attorney and the following interviews. My buddy had a court appointed attorney provided after 2hrs for a traffic stop... At 9pm on a Sunday

@Amber McDonald I am pretty sure the police have the right to question them after they talk to counsel and if counsel is present. Cops cannot continue to interrogate someone after they have invoked their right to counsel. I am not sure what the consequences of continuing are, or what strictly qualifies as continuing. (Like I am not sure if trying to convince someone to respond to questions with declarative statements is the same thing as continuing to ask questions, but considering that they are supposed to re-inform you of your Miranda rights if you start a conversation with them, this seems unlikely.) But it does seem pretty likely that violating this guys rights would be really bad for the case against him.

Regardless, once the right is invoked, all further questioning should be done with their defense attorney present.

@Amber McDonald I am pretty sure the police have the right to question them after they talk to counsel and *if* counsel is present. Cops cannot continue to interrogate someone after they have invoked their right to counsel. I am not sure what the consequences of continuing are, or what strictly qualifies as continuing. (Like I am not sure if trying to convince someone to respond to questions with declarative statements is the same thing as continuing to ask questions, but considering that they are supposed to re-inform you of your Miranda rights if you start a conversation with them, this seems unlikely.) But it does seem pretty likely that violating this guys rights would be really bad for the case against him.

Regardless, once the right is invoked, all further questioning should be done with their defense attorney present.

Asking honestly because I don't know - from what I understand, if he asks for a lawyer they have to stop that initial interrogation until he speaks to counsel. But once he's spoken to counsel they can continue to ask him questions, and of course he still has the right to remain silent. Counsel should advise him to only answer yes or no or I don't know or I don't remember, or even better just plead the 5th. Is that not right? Are we saying that once someone asks for a lawyer, the police can't speak to them any further?

@ThatOneQueerExtra YOU HALF THAWED HOT POCKET BAHAHAHA I KNOW THIS IS A SERIOUS TOPIC BUT I CANT GET OVER THAT THATS AMAZING.

@ThatOneQueerExtra No need to bring Hot Pockets into this!

@iraqi garfield What are you on about? They are absolutely right. They should’ve stopped trying to fish and interrogate him when he asked for his lawyer.

@iraqi garfield Being cautious around police doesn't mean you wanna abolish them. Police are not your friend. Neither are criminals.

Exactly.  And that's half the reason we root for him, because he's being abused.


“I want a lawyer”...5 hrs later no lawyer and they are asking him questions. Probably lucky they let him go.

Once you are arrested and request an attorney, and the police keeps interrogating .... case could be thrown out for violating your rights.


There's an old saying that goes, "The reason a fish gets caught is, it opens it's mouth."

@big thonkOne can have a saying like, "the early bird gets the worm."  This saying is logically cohesive.  Obviously other birds get other worms, but the logic is not self-negating.  Fish have to open their mouths.  So the idea that a fish opening its mouth is stupid is...stupid.  Make sense?

That's profound!  I haven't heard that one before, but I'll remember it forever.

spitzndtruth 1 happy to call ya moms my own

big thonk fish do literally open their mouths to bite the lure.

Actually the original proverb is "a fish with its mouth closed never gets caught" but i like your version better!

unless there is overwhelming evidence that proves for certain that the fish commited a felony,

Timeless saying. Thank you for sharing:)

K D100, you usually take sayings like this literally?

Fish have to open their mouths to eat and gulp water or they'll die.

Unless it gets snagged by being in the wrong place at wrong time.

Mac 101 I love that! I’ve never heard that one!

Mac 101 💯👏👏👏🤝👍

Mac 101 💯👏👏👏🤝👍

H.R.H PRINCE ALEXIOS OF GREECE & DENMARK MBBS KSJ


One junkie going through withdrawal is smarter during interrogation than every other subject on this channel combined lol

You have the right to remain silent, and he did.

Oh for sure! A heroin or opiate addict of any kind will crack fast once that withdrawal start kicking in, and believe me I'm a recovering opiate addict so I would certainly know lucky enough I didn't ever end up in any serious legal situations nor did I I no enough about anything to get anybody in trouble anyway LOL I just kept my mouth shut regarding my charges and I knew better than to open my mouth regarding anybody , and then try to go back to the street and do what I had to do. Back then, at that point I knew was what I was going right back to it as soon as I was free. Thank the Lord I've been clean since May 18th 2010 it's a hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. But there's definitely Merit to what you are saying. Cocaine addicts will keep their mouth shut so fast and not suffer but the more opiate addict goes without their drugs the more horrible they feel and the more tempted they are to do whatever they got to do to get out and get more.

You should watch Fifth estate on Russel Williams


Cops: “if we mix downplaying the questions with confining the person in a small room for hours on end and playing psychological games we can easily interrogate anyone”

Heroin addict: no

Cops: “if we mix downplaying the questions with confining the person in a small room for hours on end and playing psychological games we can easily interrogate anyone”

Heroin addict: *no*

@DeltroxTv yeah. It's like "fuck that. Sitting here silent for 12hrs and not giving any confession isn't gonna bring more pain then already so might as well do it and avoid jail"

@Jack Black alot of it is psychological though, their tone of voice, the words they use, the chair your in, its all to manipulate you into a sense of security until they can get a confession

It's not even psychological games, you give them too much credit. It's just blatant lies. "We have evidence" no, you don't.


Everything about this "interview" is illegal. When Jeff said he wanted a lawyer ALL QUESTIONING SHOULD HAVE STOPPED.

Myss angelA yeah that’s the point. it shouldn’t be behind the scenes. this is public information bud

J.A.R. Family cool beans. What about if the person being questioned gave more info? I think they could still use it?

They can keep going. But it'll be useless in court of law without an attorney .

Myss angelA idk about this video? But the last one I watched was. Either way I like to see how detectives conduct investigations lol

@Jimmy davis III oh I've heard that's how canadian system works too. Are they canadian?

Idk what the law says where they are but in one of the videos on this page it talked about how it’s not illegal for the cop to still ask questions. The person being questioned can remain silent and can still req a lawyer, but doesn’t stop the detective from questioning and can use whatever information the person says. However, that video was a Canadian detective. Just wondering if it’s possibly the same kinda scenario..

When have cops ever followed the law lol

@Myss angelA Because there wasn't one present during questioning, one can assume he didn't speak to an attorney. The first thing an attorney does is make sure there is no questioning without them present.

@j.p. and how are you so sure he didn't? We can all make assumptions but no one will really now what happened behind the scenes

Their waiting for him to start suffering from withdrawal and get him to confess just so he can lay down and rest....fascist cops

Griffin Bailey what makes you think he spoke to a lawyer? i’d love to know

@Rakim Ali True but then we wouldn't have learned so much about Jeff's amazing ways

@5yri5 It should be. They should invite Jeff as a guest speaker

Bro this is the first video they play in detective school  lmao.
Fact avg. 1600 hours for your barber license
Avg. 800 hours for your police license.

There was nothing illegal about this. He didn’t ask him any questions about the robbery after he asked for a lawyer. And then he left. The next set of questions is 5 hours later, likely after Jeff has talked to a lawyer.

They're still trying to deceive him in case he's "not sure"


Cut out all your talking so I can share this video to a class


Let’s be honest the only people that won here is The Coca-Cola Company.

Unfortunately Butterfinger did not make the cut.


wam bam thank you for the coke hahaha classic


The fact that they can hold someone in a tiny cell for that long when he has repeatedly said he didn’t want to talk and asked for a lawyer is so unconstitutional and wrong it’s not even funny. The law says book them or release them once they ask for a lawyer.

@Robert Dunn I don't believe you, and I was a child, now im a scary man. Even if you spent the weekend in your hometown jail you sat there. I bet you can't handle sitting in your recliner at home for 30 hours only going to the bathroom 3x, nothing else in the room unless you have some one to scream accusations at you for hours. I'm not crying either it's an injustice that shouldn't be, it's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but it's guilty until your able to prove yourself innocent. If you agree with the status quo you should start thinking for yourself. You voted for Biden didn't you?

@Robert Dunn apparently you've never been at the wrong place, like a concert, and held for something I never heard of, so until you experience it first hand you should go experience the endless questions for hours on end by a team about something you didn't do, then tell me that. If you've sat through that, by all means tell me about it.

@Robert Dunn Ah yes, youre first amendment rights dont matter... Only criminals would use the first amendmeny...

@Robert Dunn Also, I forgot: the very last part of your comment is total bs. <br>You don't "have it easier" by confessing or pleading guilty (which is exactly what the police is expecting from you). You "have it easier" by finding a good defense attorney.

@Robert Dunn Also, I forgot: the very last part of your comment is total bs.
You don't "have it easier" by confessing or pleading guilty (which is exactly what the police is expecting from you). You "have it easier" by finding a good defense attorney.

@Robert Dunn Ehmmmm, no. A high conviction rate just means that more people are getting convicted. And being convicted doesn't automatically imply that they have committed the crime they are accused of.

As for the last part of your comment, I believe most people here in the comments (myself included), are sympathetic towards this guy, because the police officers are clearely abusing their authority by not letting him go back to his cell and not giving him a lawyer. Things that would be unthinkable in a civilized Country (like the one I come from).

@Alexander Erickson They need to but they don't. Which is literally what the problem is with the police. No accountability for their actions and when they do violate it and they're severely caught in the public eye, they're just moved around. Keep their pensions, move to another department and do it all over again.

Not sure who you're telling to grow up lol. Those who are complacent when their rights are violated need to grow up. So try looking in a mirror.

@Jarek M Actually, it's about 98% of those who go to trial (which equates to about 30% of those who get arrested), but your point still stands.
A lot of people say the Japanese system is like "Guilty until proven innocent".
I would rather say "Guilty until proven guilty". Totally fucked up system.

@Amicus Curiae Not only that, but remaining silent can be brought up by the prosecutor during the trial and used against you.

@Amicus Curiae Whats interesting to is the guilty rate in Japan. Its something like 95% of people who are arrested are found guilty

You should look up the Hostage Justice system in Japan. Iirc, they can hold you in detainment for 23 days without filing a charge provided the officers deem there to be suspicion. This can be extended with a simple court order. (Doubled or a week extension; I forget.) Anyways, it’s just something to look up if this is something that intrigues you.

@taylor hernandez My message is that the US government is fucked and you will not be able to induce institutional change due to how the system is set out. Thats the reality of things. You can fight for it but ultimately your effort will probably not do kuch but mske you feel better

@Jarek M so your overall message is , someone else tried it - it didn’t work, other people tried it still hasn’t work, so stop trying and do nothing except submit to a false sense of freedom and persecution by an unjust law?

@Koyi Chan What has movements like BLM accomplished in regards to institutional police reform? Have they succeeded in their cause? If the government or the big corporations dont want it to happen, its not going to happen. Other than devoting his life to a political cause, what is the person to do to induce institutional change?

@Jarek M It's stupid to think they can't. Literally every movement that is ever done is ultimately due to the decisions and actions of individuals.

Welcome to Georgia. Home of prisons for profit.

@Koyi Chan What are you doing to induce institutional change in the world?? How can someone as an individual make a difference in our crooked legal system. Want him to run for public office? Its niave to say that individuals can create institutional change even though the people who dedicate their entire lives to forming national organizations, charities, and protests cant even invoke that type of change in this country. As sad as it sounds, we are pretty powerless to the conditions that surrond us.

@Alexander Erickson Then get upset and do something about it? What are you on about lol. The idea that people can't instigate institutional change is ridiculous and naive at best.

Its common knowledge that cops dont need to follow the law. Grow up.

@Mavilo Because this is a universal police problem that everyone should be worried about. The media pushes it like a race issue last several years, but the reality is police abuse their authority all the time on everyone and we should all be upset.

Unfortunately, the police can hold you for DAYS without charging you. So that "release or book em" means very little

And this guy they are clearly mistreating (whether they think he is guilty/have evidence or not) is white.

Prosecutor will keep you jail until you plead guilty.


Why does the antihero picture have half an arm ?


The sad and pathetic thing about this, is that this is typical interrogation technique used throughout the US and Canada. In this case it is especially egregious because Jeff, after being Mirandized, asked for an attorney. After an individual requests an attorney the interrogation must stop. The police must not continue with questions that could invoke an incriminating response. Not only did they ignore his request for an attorney, they proceeded with the interrogation process.

@Taylor I'm not sure that's true.    I think you have to maintain your silence.  "I wan't a lawyer"  then blab your story =confession.    <br>At least that's what the guys at Rekeita Law said.

@Taylor I'm not sure that's true.    I think you have to maintain your silence.  "I wan't a lawyer"  then blab your story =confession.
At least that's what the guys at Rekeita Law said.

@rafer Jefferson iii So do you still get Mirandled in the UK?

@Armata Strigoi we would say “miranda’d” if we had that word, not “mirandized”

@rafer Jefferson iii As a fellow Englishman, I get your point on burgled vs. burglarised, but mirandised? You're not gonna say "mirandled" are you, lmao

@bruh standler I’m just playing bro.  Listening to US English is highly amusing

@saffron77 I think he's off to realise his wife.

@rafer Jefferson iii Lmfao I can't believe that British people not only use shortened forms of words the US does but also thinks that anyone cares about it.

Your facts are wrong though. He did get an attorney and Jeff only accepted future interviews to get snacks.

@rafer Jefferson iii have you ever heard of the word “realise”?

@farmerchick Did he really? You believe that BS story they put out.

@starfish well he committed suicide while camping so

@rafer Jefferson iii “burgled” sounds like “gurgled” therefore burgled is a stupid word

Mirandized?  That’s a fetish activity right?
Yanks and their “mirandized” and “burglarized”
These words are so amusing in English.
We say “burgled”
Burglarized sounds like a sexual act

@DeathnoteBB You understood what I meant in context.

@Taylor You mean will be inadmissible, I assume

And Brian Laundrie crossed the country, lawyered up, didn't say shit, went on a camping trip, disappeared from his home and the police didn't find out for days... And he was free all that time after committing murder. Unbelievable.

well police can press for as long as they want ur still allowed to not say anything tho

Not entirely true. They can ask whatever they want. But after he asks for a lawyer, anything he says won't be inadmissible as evidence. So they absolutely can still sit there and ask questions.


I've never watched an interrogation this many times.

He really is a fucking legend.

That’s crazy because this is literally my third time watching this!