came here from “what pretending to be crazy looks like” and now can’t stop binge watching all the vids lmao

Nic2751 *capture card search, active on community

A month later and its the same story for me..!

A month later and its the same story for me..!

Lol the legend of Jeff was my first recommended video that got me into jsc

My faves are Michael Dunn, Stephanie Lazarus and Jennifer. Enjoy

My faves are Michael Dunn, Stephanie Lazarus and Jennifer. Enjoy

@anulichanel it worked on me 😂 solid hustle don’t mind the scrubs that hate

You never know where a YouTube wormhole will lead...I’m here watching my G Jeff and notice this absolutely angelic face in the comments 😍😍 now I gotta check out your channel and figure out my game plan 😘

ya! I watched that one yesterday! Check out "The Wrath of Jodi" ... I think it's called that. It's much longer but it is worth it. It's quite absurd the shit people do..

Yup that's the first one i watched to...

Yup that's the first one i watched to...

He was studying for college in my bum bum girl damn

He was studying for college in my bum bum girl damn

Is this a mandela effect type thing? Cuz I legit just went through this.... Demons and voices got me goin nutszy

Same I got 3 to go and I’m already sad about it

Same I got 3 to go and I’m already sad about it

I SHOULD BE STUDYING GERMAN! I'M NOT EVEN STUDYING CRIMINOLOGY! GET ME OUT OF HERE!!

I've seen so many people write this comment on these like ffs

I've seen so many people write this comment on these like ffs

I've been watching this channels videos for some time, glad they've gone viral and gotten the recognition they deserve! They do some incredibly fantastic work

😂😂😂literally. And to think I was speaking with my advisor about changing my major from criminal justice

The legend of Jeff is by far my favorite though I really want to know where he is

I came here from watching a squirrel steal a GoPro and climb up a tree.

If I see this ducking comment one more time

If I see this ducking comment one more time

Why? Women don't gave to pretend to be crazy, it's natural

Why? Women don't gave to pretend to be crazy, it's natural

I first watched pretending to be crazy, Jennifer’s case now this

I first watched pretending to be crazy, Jennifer’s case now this

יהונתן קלימי

Ya same here,it seems like everyone has seen that video I keep seeing it on my insta feed and its wild I wouldn't expect something like that to actually blow up like it has..

at least their paid advertising has worked to generate views, because I just came here from "what pretending to be crazy looks like"

why is this everyone's story with this channel lmao (mine as well)

This comment is on like 4 videos now when will somebody be original and stop stealing comments

Dude im so with you lol, i watched the same video and havent stopped since 😂  it popped up on my youtube, girlfriends, and best friends on the same day lol, we all had no clue we knew about the same video until i broght it up 😂😂😂 crazy how life works

I came here from animals saving other animals vids lol

I came here from animals saving other animals vids lol

Me to seen it on insta  n now Its ma life 🤣

Me to seen it on insta  n now Its ma life 🤣

That exact comment was on the video i saw 2 min ago. Was that you too.?

I dont know why but for some reason i clicked on your channel after reading your comment and i really liked your

Extreme room makeover video good stuff, please keep uploading

Y’all are lucky. I ran out of content a longggg time ago lol.

Y’all are lucky. I ran out of content a longggg time ago lol.

@Jeremiah Johnson like why mac demarco????

@Jeremiah Johnson like why mac demarco????

On every single one of these videos there is the exact same top comment look if you don't believe me

This channel is a gem in the rabbit hole of YouTube. I was half hoping they wouldn’t get to successful so they wouldn’t lessen the quality of future videos. So far they have hit it out of the park every time.

girl, i've binged every video like 5 times. i'm obsessed

girl, i've binged every video like 5 times. i'm obsessed

This exact comment is on like every video he’s uploaded

This exact comment is on like every video he’s uploaded

@armin, my beloved try, The behavior channel.

@armin, my beloved try, The behavior channel.

He has a huge following and we all started just like you..<br>Then you ♻ thru them again because they are so great..

He has a huge following and we all started just like you..
Then you ♻ thru them again because they are so great..

And this exact comment is posted on every video

And this exact comment is posted on every video

Foreal! That was the first video i seen to lol and now am hooked

Foreal! That was the first video i seen to lol and now am hooked

@Maddison Purcell-porter No, you’re in very good company…I’ve watched 4 vids already today 🤣

Yeah i feel like ive been added to a list by watching these

Yeah i feel like ive been added to a list by watching these

wham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell

wham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell

@Jeremiah Johnson haha nice try! Eat your Salad 🥗 😘

@Jeremiah Johnson haha nice try! Eat your Salad 🥗 😘

Forced to take a picture with my wifes son

Bro I sent one of these to my friends and she said she's been binge watching this channel I said I started with the crazy episode she said me too. Like they must have bought a space on YouTube or something

this is the only channel so far that has rekindled my interest in criminal psychology. i love it lmfao.

I'm inspired to study criminal justice now.

I'm inspired to study criminal justice now.

@anulichanel 33 M views in one week, that video got it nice wit the algo lol

GUYS THE DEMON CHOSE THE PLAYLIST NOT HIM!!1111!1 BELEIVE HIM11!!!1🥺

Why does everyone keep posting this same comment on every video?

Why does everyone keep posting this same comment on every video?

Lmao bruh i thougnt i was the only one. Its been a dark rabbit hole since that first video

Same here! I’ve watched almost all of them in less than 24 hours!

Same here! I’ve watched almost all of them in less than 24 hours!

This is kind of neat - I’m a longtime JCS fan who thinks their content has kind of gone downhill. A lot of their earliest videos have been taken off the channel for some reason (might have been copyright strikes? The old intro music was a bop remix of “sh-boom”)

But do you see what I mean? The older videos have a lot of interrogation techniques, described in detail. The new stuff seems more focussed on major headline cases and “justice porn” style hot takes, like commenting on the suspect’s personality or how they “are getting what they deserve.” Or, in this case, making jokes about Jeff working for Coca Cola. They don’t even call the “mutt and jeff” technique by the name interrogators use, instead calling it “good cop bad cop” which is how it’s popularly known by the public.

They also used to do bonus videos about prison life, including an interesting one called “the lifer perspective” where they interviewed people serving life without parole. I just think the channel was way more interesting, it seems to have realized that there’s more money in dramatizing headline grabbing True Crime and given up on their more informational video formats

Glad to see a new set of viewers are going back and watching the older content!

Cool story, I’m so glad you told it to us

Cool story, I’m so glad you told it to us

@Landon Mettert I mean most definitely do but in my case Ive found its helpful for views too lol😂

@Landon Mettert gets people to look at your channel lol free marketing if you will

@Landon Mettert lmfao its called strategy thanks love

@Landon Mettert lmfao its called strategy thanks love

@FCHTVH same way u didnt have to comment yet here we both are

@FCHTVH same way u didnt have to comment yet here we both are

@anulichanel Exactly, I was genuinely creeped out. It makes you think about how comfortable he was when he did it. That and that dumbass cellphone video.

@Jeremiah Johnson literally !! that was my first time hearing it and i seriously got chills ... like this is what you were listening to ... when shooting at people ...???


The amount of self awareness that Jeff has in regards to his issues, the acceptance of who he is, the despair that comes with it. Yup, I relate to him, JCS.


This is police abuse. He asked for a lawyer - where is the lawyer? He admitted to being a heroine user and any cop who knows anything can see he has already entered withdraw - but the cop still hammers away. It makes no difference whether Jeff is innocent or guilty - he deserves to be treated humanely.

@Wesley Hobbs No victim of this guy, in this case, which is the point.

@Robert Campbell CONVICTIONS DO NOT CREATE VICTIMS. They were already there.

Larry Lawton and all other somewhat prominent ex US prisoners:<br>Re-enacting J. Jameson laugh from the good Spiderman movie.

Larry Lawton and all other somewhat prominent ex US prisoners:
Re-enacting J. Jameson laugh from the good Spiderman movie.

@Wesley Hobbs No victim since he was never convicted.

@GuataGuata Yea, except it turned out he wasn't.

@Professionally Correct he didn’t need to get the soda

@bigboymatthew How in the world did that make any sense in your brain?  He should have received the methadone, but he got two cans of fuckin soda instead, so that's good?  Lol what???

Omg they are so inhumane for not contributing to his addiction 🥴

Different locations have different time periods in regards to this. They can still go in after x amount of time (specific amount of time depending on location), reread rights, and try again BUT they still have to honor the right to an attorney. But in between getting an attorney and the suspect talking with them, they can still legally go back in and start over! These interrogators were well within their rights (as long as they did get an attorney and followed their local laws regarding interrogations).

There are specific laws regarding interrogations that must be followed.. whether or not they are followed is what can make or break a case. It’s honestly in interrogators best interest to follow the law. In certain circumstances, the whole case can be thrown out if it’s found due process wasn’t followed (such as unethical tactics, not getting an attorney when it was requested, etc).

This is why it is SO important for people to know their rights and what is allowed and what’s not.

Just as humanely as he treated his victim.

They thought as he was going thru withdrawal he’ll be “easier” to interrogate and get some bogus confession out of him.

He spoke to a lawyer in a different room.

@Luciana Holmes When you know someone is guilty you usually have eveidence of at least a good part of the Who, What, Where, When, and How. You don't want those. You want the WHY. WHY did they do it? WHY were they motivated to do it? So, you want to get them talking and comfortable enough to feel a sort of trust. Now if someone is still presumed innocent (as all shall be in the US) but is being questioned then they are usually still trying to figure out the Who What Where etc... Thats WHY (hehe see what I did there) they are more rough. They just want to force out the info. The facts. Data is what they are after.

@Luciana Holmes One thing you learn when you watch more of these is they're information gathering. You think they're your best friend, and meanwhile they're trying to find out a motive to give court an open and shut case. (E.g. He resented his mother) A lot of the times these are serious cases which is hard to fully grasp. These are traumatic times for ordinary people, and in my opinion it helps to have 'order' /structure in the way of police.

I find it so weird how when they know they’re interrogating a serial killer and they have evidence, they are nicer than they’re to innocent people. Wtf ??

He got a lawyer, they just can't put that on camera..

My brother is a heroine addict. Has been my entire adult life (18 yrs). He’s been off and on methadone and suboxone. I’ve heard horror stories of the way he gets treated when he goes to jail. I’m not saying whatever he did to go to jail is ok. But it usually drug related or something not so severe. I feel that heroine especially should be treated fairly for inmates to AT LEAST be able to taper off while in jail from suboxone or methadone. Not be forced to go throw painful withdrawal with bright lights etc etc. I’m talking about minor crimes, like drug possession, not prison or felonies that involve hurting ppl in any way.

he was treated fairly , in fact he even had two cokes gifted to him, the only thing he should’ve received was the methadone

The cop asked him if he understood his rights and he said no. Then he said yeah.

I am hoping there will be laws passed for addicts who are incarcerated. Methadone saves heroine addicts lives in a lot of cases.

Unfortunately they're trained to take advantage of all that


If you are ever in this situation..
9:09-9:26


As a former junkie myself. It’s literally comparable to cruel and unusual punishment to leave someone going through withdrawals SITTING IN A ROOM for 5 hours. They’re lucky he didn’t start puking on them, crapping himself. Poor Jeff lol.

@Lauren Murray Buy yeah, looking back, my already bad mental health was made significantly worse from coming off of heroin.  I can totally understand the mental anxiety part.

@Lauren Murray I probably used over the course of 5 or 6 years total.  Quit a couple of times for a month or so before relapsing.  The most I ever did was a bit over a half of a gram a day which is pretty tame compared to other people I knew.  I dont know how I never let myself do enough to get full on physically addicted.  It might help that I mostly sniffed it so it would last longer(not sure if it works that way, but who knows).

@Ryan that’s interesting. Did you only use for a short time period? HONESTLY I could do all the puking in the world but the mental/anxiety NEVER AGAIN.

I feel so lucky I never had physical withdrawals from heroin.  Mine were all mental, I was damn near psychotic.  Ive never had physical withdrawals from anything I quit, caffeine as well.  Kind of odd.

I’m not arguing that rehab is more helpful than jail, it’s pretty obvious which is more helpful. I’m arguing that this chick thinks that because she went through detox in jail she deserves some medal than people that did it through rehab. Because from all her comments that’s pretty much what she has been implying.

I’m sorry but can you read? I said “she is coming across like” I never said she literally said that. <br>Also you’re not my friend and you don’t know me :)

I’m sorry but can you read? I said “she is coming across like” I never said she literally said that.
Also you’re not my friend and you don’t know me :)

Exactly what I was thinking! So fucking bizarre lol

Exactly what I was thinking! So fucking bizarre lol

@Aris Ven yeah I stopped cymbalta too in college. I was shaking and vomiting. Eventually went to the ER.

Spoken like a true non heroin addict.    As a heroin addict, you're liable to spend periods of your life where you may be in withdrawal for days sometimes.    Its just part of the reality of being a junkie.   If it isn't the cops playing with your addiction, it can easily be some psychopath criminal that  sells dope.

@missalexx there just isn't an argument, rehab will always be a more supportive environment than jail. This seems obvious so what's the point of insisting otherwise.

@missalexx no one said "it makes you better" your projecting weird insecurities about your own past with addiction. It's called imposter syndrome. It's okay, I understand and have those feelings often. <br>No one is invalidating you except for yourself friend :)

@missalexx no one said "it makes you better" your projecting weird insecurities about your own past with addiction. It's called imposter syndrome. It's okay, I understand and have those feelings often.
No one is invalidating you except for yourself friend :)

Yeah heroin withdrawal cold turkey is literal hell. I’ve gone through it so many times and it hurts really bad. Like the worst flu type pain along with emotional pain. True hell. I’d rather use b till i fall then go through more withdrawal

@missalexx shes gatekeeping withdrawing😆

@missalexx shes gatekeeping withdrawing😆

War stories and ego and wrath. You might be sober but your brain is still sick. You need to humble yourself

@Funaki .Chidori but he was innocent . He didn’t even commit the crime 😂

@Funaki .Chidori but he was innocent . He didn’t even commit the crime 😂

Also your comment kind of irks me. Your coming across like you feel some sort of entitlement because you have detoxed in jail without meds so it makes you better than the people that have done it in rehab with meds. There were always people that had attitudes like yours in the rooms so that’s why I stopped going. It doesn’t matter how people got clean. You should just be happy and grateful that they are.

I detoxed at rehab without meds and I’ve detoxed in jail 5 times so I know how it goes.

@Emily McGuckin am I your Lauren ? The world may never know . Muahaha. 😂❤

@Lauren Murray sounds like something my friend Lauren would say… LOL

@Lauren Murray sounds like something my friend Lauren would say… LOL

@missalexx key thing for YOU: AT REHAB. lol. Did you ever detox without meds ? I’m not laughing at you but the comparison to being in jail and rehab detoxing is incompatible and I don’t know your story or how long you were on the sh*t for and im not even saying this guy wanted to talk to anyone but read the long comment like 5 comments up . People would generally rather do ANYTHING , experience ANYTHING other than detoxing without meds in jail . It’s torture.

@Ellen Zovne I’m just getting to your comment and man I feel all of this 🙌 I hope you are doing good ❤

@Aris Ven those are WORSE!’ Or people like coming off methadone. I wouldn’t be sitting still either. People hallucinate . Honestly this is the equivalent of torture for an addict 5 hours in a tiny spot like this .

@Emily McGuckin 😂😂 I am girl thanks ❤❤ my name is very common. That’s why I don’t have to hide it on YT. I could be anyone. I could be your best friend 😂🤷♀

LMAO saw this comment and realized your name was Lauren murray. That’s my best friend of like 13 years name! I hope you’re doing well

When you’re detoxing off heroin all you want to be is alone. I didn’t leave my room at rehab for 5 days except when they made me go for mealtimes after day 3. You can’t think about anything except for withdrawal so the last thing on your mind is wanting to interact socially with people.

It IS cruel and unusual as someone who has withdrawn from heroin in a freezing tiny concrete and metal cell minimum 5 times, I quite literally have ptsd from it. You physically and mentally and emptiness could not torture someone all 3 ways at the same time more. I've given birth, been smacked off my bike by an suv then parked on by it, been in a 4 wheeling accident where I was pinned under a 2000 lb side by side by my shattered elbow, had covid and post covid pneumonia, and I would do ALL OF THEM AGAIN, not just one, all again, before I would choose to withdraw in jail again. They don't do shit to help you, they know you're coming off dangerous drugs like benzos, alcohol, and heroin all at once, they do not care. You see ppl seize in jail all the time, crack their heads going down, they do NOT get taken to a hospital. I seized once, woke up to being dragged down a hallway by my foot because I was "faking it" while the 4 officers laughed at me and the me in a cell, alone, in the middle of winter, withdrawing (if you Don't know that means you could be on the surface of the damn sun and still be cold) in front of the door that the officers were going in and out of in 35° f weather. I hate cops, I've NEVER had one help me, never, even when i wasn't an addict, they did NOTHING when I got drugged and raped but give me a DUI for driving under the influence of the DATE RAPE DRUG. Said I took it myself.

Don't talk to the cops. If they interview you, it means they don't know something, they won't even respond to an entire cell of women screaming that someone is seizing or beating their head on the wall if it doesn't help them.

You aren't safe in jail than on the street, my parents firmly believed that but jail is the only place I've had a seizure, been jumped, gotten in multiple fist fights from random meth heads losing their minds, they don't get you help for your addiction, they don't have programs, they don't make sure you don't die, they don't care. If the only reason you leave your kid in jail instead of, for example, going and getting YOUR KIDS OWN MONEY to bail themselves out, is because you think their safer in jail and will get help (my family did this to me multiple times) they won't get help, they aren't safe, and the relapse rate from jail is almost 100% because of it, and that's when ppl really die because they haven't had drugs for a little while, they're desperate for the pain to stop, they do too much and OD because their tolerance had plummeted. NOW you have a dead kid.

We need to stop the war on drugs. It hasn't changed drug use ONE BUT since it started, check the stats. Drug addicts are used to fill our massive incarceration nation, they need ppl to fill all these private prisons, they have zero vested interest in getting people clean. All research shows that treatment is where funds should go. Not incarceration. This applies to many other crimes too but right now we're talking about drugs. It's a PUBLIC health issue, not a justice system issue. Addicts need help, support, they desperately need to be destigmatized so that they don't lose every person in their lives because the stigma is that addicts are gross, bad ppl who need their lives ones to cut them off, not just from money which is totally ok, but from love, from emotional support, from providing help when the addict is ready, not just cutting them out from everything and everyone they love "until they're better" because with a reason to live, people to love and be loved by, support of some kind, WHY GET CLEAN? It's all you have. The people you use with, good or bad, are all you have. Your string out significant other is the only person in the planet who doesn't look at you like trash, no matter how bad the relationship might be.

1. Drug war has failed
2. Incarceration Nation must end
3. Destigmatization must occur
4. Addicts need support
5. Treatment is the only way
6. Addicts are ppl too, and many people are one accident, one party night getting too drunk to make a wise choice, one misstep away from being the same way.
6. Other addictions are bad, some just as bad, but because they aren't stigmatized they are allowed to remain in society, keep their jobs, keep their family in their lives... but your just the same.

@Kimber Dayton I mean they just antes to question him…so he’s where he’s supposed to be..but putting someone who is actively in withdrawal in a tiny room, ALONE, nothing but a soda like you clearly don’t get what I meant cause you’ve never been through it but that’s the worst even having someone to talk to or something to do like read ANYTHING. But sitting in a box with nothing to do with all the anxiety and mental torture not to mention the physical that comes next. Just cruel.

Uh where tf else is he gonna be? Like... someone withdrawing should be..... where?

Wow I thought it was a jump cut and he returned after 5 hours. That’s brutal.

@Lauren Murray yeah thats the worst.. tired af fuck but cant lay still, it feels a little like a burn inside until i move for me.. hope you doing good :)

@Peero N sugar actually helped me for all of 5 minutes then I wanted more. I guess what the opiates can do is mess with the way our bodies process sugar lol. The RLS. The being tired but not sleeping. Never again lol.

I went through withdrawal from mood stabilizer and anti depressant and I will tell you going through that, if I had to sit for 5 hours. For one I wouldn't be able to sit and for two I'd be hysterical. Like, withdrawal makes you want to diiiieeeeeeeee. Eventually my doctor put me back when after a week I didn't recover from the detoxing.

Sugar always made it worse for me because on opiat rehab you got crazy noradrenaline and this fucking RLS

@Krieg Death Rider I’d have guzzled that in 5 minutes and been like “where’s your sugar packets at??!” 😩😂

Those cokes help alot lol they still won't get rid of the pain or that foggy feeling but it'll settle your stomach for a little while probably the only reason he didn't puke


<b>This</b> is what an innocent person acts like. Not all weirdly polite and rambling, but calling out cops on their bullshit and being annoyed.

*This* is what an innocent person acts like. Not all weirdly polite and rambling, but calling out cops on their bullshit and being annoyed.

@Cheeseburger Inparadise Being a "thug" or an addict doesn't mean they don't tell the truth once in a while. And it doesn't mean they rob every single place you accuse them of.

Not sure about Jeff being completely innocent. He got into a defensive stance as soon as the police asked him about his friend's gun. He might not be completely involved but he might know some stuff that he's not telling. But he was smart throughout the interrogation, probably had a lot of experience in similar situations with the police. Smart enough be released without having any charges brought on him.

Not true at all considering there’s videos on this channel of the Canadian dude who was super polite and was innocent

@God Of Spaghett many people that are not guilty get defensive because they know they didn't do anything and get upset that they would be accused

@God Of Spaghett I agree with your first statement but the second sentence shows that you clearly completely misunderstood/misread the OP's comment. They were saying that innocent people <b>do</b> "get defensive and assert their story confidently".

@God Of Spaghett I agree with your first statement but the second sentence shows that you clearly completely misunderstood/misread the OP's comment. They were saying that innocent people *do* "get defensive and assert their story confidently".

JCS' video "guilty until proven innocent" has a polite innocent person

Hãmz አልጋህ ስር ነኝ

Nah Jeff is a legend but he did that shit

Rambling is a good sign of deceit. The more complicated the answer, the more likely it’s full of nonsense.

@olivia grace this is offensive for me please delete it

@olivia grace as a great believer in Norse Mythology i find this tripe offensive

@constantnipples If you think he's intelligent, then your bar for it is very very very low.

God bless!  Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and died on a cross for our sins so we can live again in Heaven where there is no pain or suffering!  God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead!  Confess and repent of your sins and God will freely forgive you!  Trust in God and live for Jesus as He died for you! 💕 (don’t swear or take God’s name in vain!)

Eh people are different, on the other hand making generalities is dangerous

If you generalize those common characteristics of guilt or innocence you would find yourself with a lot of false accusations. People who are innocent <b>often</b> get defensive and assert their story confidently.

If you generalize those common characteristics of guilt or innocence you would find yourself with a lot of false accusations. People who are innocent *often* get defensive and assert their story confidently.

Orr he guilty but charming and intelligent


Wham bam! Thank you for the coke now put me back in the cell ☠☠ 9:23


The best antihero you came up with was bad Santa? Really?


Did he have to subtitle the “mmmmmm”’s 😆


incase one person watching doesn’t know. heroin withdrawl is terrible. and knowing you are gonna be locked in a cold cell while going thru it is a terrifying thought.


Wham bam thank you for the coke, I do heroin - jeff


Am never going to admire a heroin user. I’m sure he has hurt a lot of people in his time.


I WOULD TAKE PRISON OVER THE JOB WITH COKE.


Never Talk To COPS .... Never call the COPS ... NEVER


When ask if you do understand....you just have to say
I´m not stand under nothing
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Jeff got corona and he looks rly bad.... I hope he gets well soon :/


Oh god the social cringe is killing me just 2 minutes in, lmao what a troll.


I feel like people more like him because he said he wasn't gonna talk to them, but they kept trying, which I think we all can agree is shitty. Like, after he said he wasn't gonna say anything and asked for a lawyer, they shouldn't be able to keep trying. At all.


You have the right to remain silent.  Do you understand?  Answer the question!!!


“All youse tryna get is some stupid ass fucking confession” brilliant….


“Where do you get your methadone”
“I don’t, i get heroin”
FUNNIER THAN ELLENS WHOLE CAREER💀

I laughed so hard- that was so out of pocket

F*"* yeah...I laughed so hard at this comment...cause I use "h"...

Trying to read these comments is like walking in a maze that loops it's self

Pretty sure it wasn't a joke. Where's the funny??

Engineer Gaming (Formerly Sergeant Dornan)

@Derek Staroba while there are some forms of drug withdrawals that can kill you (such as withdrawals from alcohol, benzos, barbiturates, etc), opioid withdrawal very rarely does, except in prisons where people don't treat it and effectively kill folk through dehydration (from sweating, puking, and diarrhea).  The fact that it very rarely kills you also doesn't detract from how unbelievably hellish of an experience it can be (it's often described as a flu but that's really only qualitatively speaking.  It goes far beyond the realm of imagination for the average folk), and it's gonna be especially bad when you've been abusing an opioid like heroin and for so many years.  The fact that that man had to spend so many hours there must've been horrible as straight faced as he may have been.

@Derek Staroba its not allergy dude , the first time you try heroin /morphine etc , throwing up is absolutely normal, you vomit a lot. People really allergic to opioids fall into coma

A car crash is funnier than Ellen's career 😅

@martin kerr I've known 3 in my life (I'm not from the US)<br>All three were born intersex.. I believe they wait to a certain age to see which gender is more dominant. All three started as females and turned into males at the age of 19. 2 of them over the years became males with beards and wide frames. 1 still looked like a female, her voice didn't change, but the doctors still decided to keep her a male because of the male genitalia. But I believe you're talking about people who decide to change because they want to, not their actual bodies deciding this.

@martin kerr I've known 3 in my life (I'm not from the US)
All three were born intersex.. I believe they wait to a certain age to see which gender is more dominant. All three started as females and turned into males at the age of 19. 2 of them over the years became males with beards and wide frames. 1 still looked like a female, her voice didn't change, but the doctors still decided to keep her a male because of the male genitalia. But I believe you're talking about people who decide to change because they want to, not their actual bodies deciding this.

@ZeidGho this world is just so fuck up now ,,glad most of this cross gendering is in the US most of it that is

@The Besties I've tried it several times believe me it's not a good feeling I think u are mistaken it feels like I'm dying I've had a lot of people try to tell me otherwise and even have people get literally angry and frustrated over the fact that I don't get "hi" I also observed others and what it happens when they take it like "nodding off" and it looks very bad to me and yes I would say evil but I digress

@Derek Staroba Sorry, I just saw your other comment.  So it's actually not that uncommon for your first time taking an opiate to make you repeatedly vomit. Some are way more sensitive than others though.  It doesn't necessarily mean you're allergic.  Which may be a good thing for you if you're ever in an emergency.  Often if the person hasn't had opiates, but need for a surgery, they'll give them anti nausea meds with it. I have known people when they started taking oxycontin, or whatever you know, they barf nonstop from it, but yet still like the feeling, so they come back.  Eventually they get addicted. Even in addicts, some get used to it, but some still puke.

@Derek Staroba By sick, what were your symptoms? Throwing up? Or something else?

@The Besties years ago took a percaset and was sick over 8 hours and I was really healthy and exercising a ton at the time. I always worry they might give it to me by accident if I was ever in the hospital

@The Besties just get really sick for hours feel like I'm gonna die and keep throwing up and dry heaving. Get real thirsty but can't drink because I just throw up and start sweating profusely

@Derek Staroba what happens when you tried it?

Heroin is evil people always tell me I'm lucky for being allergic to it

It's sad to me I seen people go through these withdrawals it's horrible it can kill u

@ObiWAANKenobi 44 No someone said that Ellen is now Elliott.. so I'm saying that she didn't just change her name.. she changed her name because she's a he now. Just to clarify

@ZeidGho nobody mentioned his gender but ok

@Kip00 And he's a he now, not she, I believe

Lol. Altho it probably ain't funny when you live it.

Hahahaha either way this was funny as all get out! 🤣 🤣


The title should state "Jeff" is a legend


Remember this rule:
“Am I under arrest?”
“No” —> k bye
“Yes” —> Lawyer

and what if there's no answer like "Yes/No"?

@Grant H they need to come up with a term that describes being "detained" and NOT free to go. I don't think there is one. Or, it was supposed to be "detained," but then they perverted it and no one said anything lol

@Kier TiVi this right here is why the world is going to shit
Stop judging a book by it’s cover
He is an armed robber
How exactly do you expect an armed robber to respond?

@Danny Tourigny they do. But an example might be a traffic ticket. You aren't under arrest but you can't leave. But you also don't have to say anything. You just need to provide license registration and insurance but you don't have to say anything

@Grant H I'm pretty sure that they have to tell you what it is you're being detained for, and if they can't answer that then it's k bye!

@Evexin as soon as you express a human right they make you out as if your being an inconvenience to them and against them

@Evexin you no nothing so why say probly haha. If someone request a lawyer there menna get 1 straight away it’s best to always get legal advice before u say ANyTHInG

@Amy K probably because they can hold him for like up to 8 hours or whatever.

He asked for a lawyer and they didn't get him one 😕

Nice joke mate but idk about the comments above me

You can be detained and not free to go but not under arrest. But yeah as a general rule that is good. If you are detained don't talk to cops. Everything can and will be used against you. Not to help you

Jeff without a doubt is an addict but you can tell that he is not responsible what the fuck happens here based on his tone of voice and his natural badass manner


lol this dude definitely doesnt work for Coca Cola but he also is probably not in prison. He's just a sad junkie whos too smart to be in his situation


I can't stress this enough absolutely never talk to the cops when you're picked up for shit like this. Even if you're completely innocent, sadly their motive is to send you to jail. Because once they get key information that they could mold to make it look like you did it that's all they're looking for.

Memorize these words: “I don’t answer questions”, and my personal favorite- “I decline to comment on any questions, but out of respect I am handing you my lawyers card.” After that you DONT SAY ANOTHER DAMN WORD!

They also get promotions if they can get a confession

What kind of idiot helps police investigate themselves? Any lawyer worth their salt will tell you you never under any circumstance talk to police. Anything you say can and will be held against you but it will never be used in your favor.

Anyone who hasn't already needs to immediately Look up the video "Don't talk To The Police" by Professor James Duane. Watch it, then watch it again


I’d bet my entire net worth that that guy does not work for Coke at their headquarters in their marketing division. Living in Atlanta, I see their job postings pop up and it’s ridiculous. It’s like entry level job - PHD in astrophysics required.

I have a hard time believing a dude that was was strung out for nearly two decades got hired on. Not saying it’s not possible to turn your life around, I just highly doubt he went from drug addict with multiple felonies on his record to working for one of the most sought after companies around.

@Paddy Larkin that makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification.

I think you misunderstood. It said his outcome was unknown which implies that him working for coca cola was merely a comedic suggestion or a "legend". Otherwise putting your life savings on it isn't a bad call!


Sling Blade says....I'll take some French fried tater if ya got um...mmmhmm


Yo, how come your partner ain't talking?    "My name is Jeff."


Jeff is a hero because, even though he's withdrawing from heroine with a decade long habit, he can still make fools out of 2 cops

@Nicole sounds like it’s two different doctors that prescribed you subs for your opiate addiction and fentanyl for your sacroiliac. You wouldn’t be effected by the fentanyl shot if on subs but if you took suboxone within 2 days after a shot of fentanyl you would likely end up in precipitated withdrawal. Everybody’s responses to this stuff is different, but I’d recommend you lay of the suboxone following your fentanyl shots.

Nicole also having subs in your system before doing any other opiate is not going to get you sick. They are probably giving you fent for your procedures bc they need something really strong to overpower the subs in your brains’ opiate receptors. That’s why u don’t really get a buzz bc they have probably dialed the fent dose in well enough to kill pain but not too much to get you buzzed. But if you went the opposite, and had opiates in your system, and took subs too early, you’d throw yourself into precipitated w/d’s and you’d feel the worst sickness you will ever feel in your life. I only did it once and I wanted to run out into traffic to end it. Worst feeling on earth. Good luck with recovery, shit is a long hard road.... 🙃

@gypsykingg this is exactly what was happening to Jeff

@squanchy squanch hey buddy, sorry for l8 reply. I have a weird relationship with weed. When I got off kratom before my stint now, I smoked a weed pen and was the dumbest idiot alive, just couldn't think to save my life. I couldn't work like that so I had figure something else out. I started using gabapentin and it worked great. But then i started working a very physical job that was tearing me apart so I started using Bali kratom again for the pain but ended up staying on.  I've noticed that kratom from head shops are using crap quality and it does mess with my heart a bit. ( clarity kratom ) is probably your best bet when using head shop kratom but the rest is filler garbage that will mess you up. Also kratom from bulk suppliers is usually a cleaner , better quality kratom that shouldn't mess with your heart. God bless man, stay in touch, stay away from H man. I used to get fentanyl thinking it was H and I've od'd so many times it's a miracle I'm still breathing.

Nicole so you’re taking subs everyday, but come off them to get fent injections only before procedures? If that’s the case you are 100% going to get sick just from being on subs that long. It’s going to take a lot longer to get sick from not taking subs, then it is any other opiate for the most part. Usually takes about 24-36 hours to really start getting minor w/d from subs, and the real w/d’s don’t kick in until about 36-48 hours, maybe that’s why you don’t feel sick when you stop the subs for a day or two before getting fent injections? I was on subs for 10 years as well almost, and when I went cold turkey I had to take 7 weeks off of work before I got my strength back and the random tired fits went away enough where I could work. I do construction so it was really tough to be able to go back while sick. Getting addicted to pain pills, then doing dope was the worst thing that ever happened to me, but I used kratom to ween down properly so I could still work and not go into a detox. Kratom is a god send and works amazing, and the w/d’s are nowhere near as bad as any opiate or sub...

Mr. Ryan I’m on subs after getting addicted to pain pills and being on them for over 10 years from military injuries. They wanted to put me back on perks once I told them of my problem and trying to withdrawal on my own but I said no and said put me on sub. I still get fentanyl for my SI injections every three months and don’t have any side effects. I take my medicine before the procedure as well because I found it helps more than not taking it for a couple days before. Seems not having any side effect is not normal? Been on them for five years now. I thought it would cause me to be sick with the mix but it doesn’t. I do not get any buzz from the fentanyl and it seems to only help a small amount. I can’t smoke or do edibles because I value my CCP to much to give it up.

@Mr. Ryan - If you're shooting heroin, multiple times and grams per day, you can start withdrawal within a few hours. He definitely was going through withdrawal. His nose was running, legs were restless and he was getting anxiety. He wasn't in full blown withdrawal, but they were setting in.

Jewels inSD not for nothing, Jeff isn’t stupid by any means. The proof is in the pudding. The officers did everything in their power to make Jeff incriminate himself, and yet the tactics of these professionals didn’t work on “some junkie scumbag”....they presented him with a game, and he outplayed them. Simple as that. At the very least he has shown that he isn’t stupid.

@Jewels inSD no one in this comments replies has anyone said anything remotely close to what you’re rambling and name calling about.

@squanchy squanch I started off on 12 mg a day just over 2 years ago, reduced to 8mg a day after about a year, and am taking a half of an 8mg strip= 4 mg a day now for several months. My goal is to ultimately not need them at all but my insurance has covered it and allowed me to do it gradually to this point. Along with some type of group therapy ( NA meetings, IOP groups) I recommend suboxone maintenance to any former dope addicts. I wish your healthcare would give you the option to obtain medication I feel is as necessary to an addict as insulin is to a diabetic but the system is mostly broken. I wish you the best friend.

@Lbot beenthere best of luck. Back injuries are scary.

@Lbot beenthere Kratom is definitely addictive for some people, but nowhere near as bad as pills or other opiates. If you take too much, you will simply throw up. Get capsules, and order them online from a reputable seller. Or order the powder and make your own capsules (powder is generally higher quality than pre-capsuled kratom but it just depends on your source). If you order the powder alone it is very nasty to chug. I'd advise to stay away from smoke shop kratom, but if you're in a pinch most smoke shops do carry it, but the quality of the powder is actually pretty important. As far as strains go id advise you to do some research into that. The red Thai strains are supposedly good for pain. Get a few different strains and see which works best for you. If you feel any ill effects then another option for you could be CBD oil or edibles.

@Lbot beenthere Personally, i used it for work. I have knee problems and was always on my feet. Its very good at dealing with aches and pains even if you are micro-dosing (taking like 1 gram).

@Lbot beenthere it's derived from leaves off of a tree in southeast Asia. That tree is part of the coffee/tea family i believe. At small doses it has stimulating effects similar to caffeine. But when you take higher doses (over 5 grams) its reported to have a more opiate-like effect. There's also different strains that produce different effects.

@Mr. Ryan do you plan on tapering off of suboxone? I'm down to half a strip daily but it's rough. I don't have a prescription and can't really afford to be paying 10$ a strip, so tapering is a necessity for me rn. I can't work if I'm sick but i need to work so i can't be sick. Lol it sucks. But I'm glad to hear you are doing good bro keep with it!<br>Edit: my insurance doesn't cover suboxone so ive been having to buy it from the street. Which is fkin shitty because I'm probably supporting someone's heroin addiction as they're selling scripts to buy dope.

@Mr. Ryan do you plan on tapering off of suboxone? I'm down to half a strip daily but it's rough. I don't have a prescription and can't really afford to be paying 10$ a strip, so tapering is a necessity for me rn. I can't work if I'm sick but i need to work so i can't be sick. Lol it sucks. But I'm glad to hear you are doing good bro keep with it!
Edit: my insurance doesn't cover suboxone so ive been having to buy it from the street. Which is fkin shitty because I'm probably supporting someone's heroin addiction as they're selling scripts to buy dope.

@No Mind keep at it bro. How does weed treat you? Perhaps switching to edibles would be better than kratom. Personally during the time i was on kratom my heart didn't feel right. And i had a thing called SVT happen where your heart starts beating extremely fast (i was 190 bpm when i got to the hospital). Scared tf outta me and helped me stop kratom. I was using mostly maeng da. I'm curious if you've noticed any ill effects with your heart while on kratom?. But i was living with my ex gf and she was really what was keeping me straight at the time. Loved that bitch ahah. Since then been through bouts of heroin use usually not lasting longer than a month (I'm able to force myself to quit because i know how horrible withdrawals will be). Luckily i have access to suboxone illegally. I'm trying to taper off of subs currently. Taking about a half a sub a day. Good luck man, would love to hear back on your experience w/kratom!

@Mr. Ryan thank God. you're still on suboxone?
I've been off since 2016.
But i have been on and off of Kratom

@No Mind good buddy. 2 years and 3 months clean on sub maintenance. Hbu?

@Mr. Ryan ooo nah.<br>If he would of taken it, he would of been right as rain

@Mr. Ryan ooo nah.
If he would of taken it, he would of been right as rain

@No Mind nah he didn’t get any but asked for it. I’ve gone into precipitated myself taking subs too early and was thinking this guy was nuts and probably gonna end up sweating like crazy and shitting his pants if he took it, but I guess they’re not the same.

@Mr. Ryan no, methadone is not the same as suboxine.
No matter what time you take methadone during a withdrawal it will cease all withdrawl symptoms.
But he didn't take methadone, right?

@No Mind I’m not too familiar with Methadone, is it the same as Suboxone where if you take it with dope still in your system you go into precipitated withdrawal?

@Mr. Ryan with an addition like his, he could of been feeling withdrawals anywhere from 12-16hrs, maybe even less depending on delivery. He definitely felt something, I can tell by his movement.<br>( ex heroine addict for 8yrs )

@Mr. Ryan with an addition like his, he could of been feeling withdrawals anywhere from 12-16hrs, maybe even less depending on delivery. He definitely felt something, I can tell by his movement.
( ex heroine addict for 8yrs )

Probably got high right before the robbery (if he did it) typically takes at least 24 hours since last use for withdrawal to hit. He’s not showing any real symptoms here and likely didn’t the entire time he was in jail. Probably got high within an hour of being released and never felt a thing.


7:00 anyone else referred to John Olivers last piece?


I feel bad for any person who’s charged with a crime whether falsely accused or not. People don’t commit crimes without reason and many don’t have a choice. Unless it’s something truly heinous and unjustifiable like rape, torture, or serial murder, they’re still just a normal person like you or I and just made a snap decision/mistake, or seemingly had no other choice.


I thought this was going to show the "my name jeff" soundbyte origin. Disappointed.


He's got a suicide pair of pants and shirt, and he doesn't snitch lol 😂. He is very smart, u always show them ur in control of this and no I am not talking so bring me back to my cell. U don't argue with them and he's right, they don't want to help you and they ant ur friend. Any good lawyer will tell you, never say a word to them because you will only make it harder for him to help you. They want you to say u did it but he knew exactly what you say. I want my lawyer and bring me back to my cell because I don't talk to the police. No they let him go because u can't hold someone without anyone talking and the lawyer told the cops, charge him for the crime or let him go. U can't just hold someone just because u want to, they will get sued. It's no legend behind it, they deal with this everyday. Just some like him and me and others, if they don't have nothing they will tell you exactly what they have and he doesn't have anything and u know they don't because he gave it away. U just have to be a smart azz if ur arrested, if ur under arrest, everybody I know want talk and say if I'm arrested u take me back to my cell. They can't hold you but 12 hours and he knows they don't have nothing. But u don't talk to them because most people will talk their way in prison and u all have seen it. If they would just say if I'm not arrested I'm leaving but take me to the cell if u are because I ant saying nothing, why are you going to do their job, he wants you to give him the evidence and if they interview you like this, they are running out of time, I know the same thing they know and I'm going to wave when I leave, tell me the evidence because you don't have no evidence


Forgive what bro?! You’ve played a longer clip of bad grandpa than the vid


Heroin addict loves that Coke...that should probably tell a lot about soda.


You only get 15 to 20 for murder in New Zealand.


______> OPENS COKE CAN WITH TEETH…….BOSS SHIT RIGHT THERE


Does anybody have any info on the narrator of this piece? He sounds like a guy that worked for The Young Turks and now works for a conservative outlet, and I can't for the life of me recall his name. AND IT'S BUGGIN' ME! I suffer from Bidenitis.


Wham bam thank u for the Coke now put me back in my cell! Legendary


Where da fuq did all of his comments go lol


Jeff: " oh your playing good cop?"
Cop: " no normally I'm a prick"
Jeff:" you look like a prick"

Jeff is a hero

@David Kinggear is roids Jeff not on gear

Work hard, and you can be a "hero" like him one day.

What's the time stamp on that?<br>I couldn't find it.

What's the time stamp on that?
I couldn't find it.

@David King Jeff didnt do shit i totally believe him. Like why would he walk up to cops swarming an area if he committed an armed robery

I mean I'm usually against people being rude for no reason but this certainly is an honest answer 😂😂

It was funny , but no . He's not my hero . Dude rob someone , armed robbery . Jeff on the gear , so probably a old lady ....

Yeah man he had me right there, I root for him^^


“So wam bam thank u for the coke put me back in my cell”


Why was the body language analysis cut from the video?


He was acting all defensive just to get Coke. Genius

@Jon M ...no.. he was a junkie going through withdrawls, the sugar is all he was looking for, hence the request first for methodone, then for 2 cokes and a butterfinger.

Coke gives you a sugar rush, you become more susceptible to interrogation when you crash.

@Zero1 ZeroLast he was talking about the drink brother


If you never understand the right read to you then you cannot be charged


Little do we know this is in fact, a coke ad.


Officer : You have the right to remain silent
Jeff : Remain Silent
Officer : Surprised Pikachu Face

how does he prove he understood or explain his consent by not answering the question? they need to know the suspect understood, it's the protocol and it's normal human contact. Then after that, he CAN and HAS THE RIGHT to remain silent.

@TheMengusDew jeff does have a right to remain silent, but that doesn't change the fact that the officer needs him to talk.

@Stoner gamer He has the right to an attorney, speaking without one present is sacrificing that right. It doesn't mean it's gone permanently just that its gone in that moment. He's trying to manipulate someone into doing something that can only hurt him

Paul MacGregor That wouldn’t be giving up their rights, because they have the right at all times to remain silent no matter what

@E You mean he was trying to pressure a suspect into giving up one of their constitutional rights

Gem damn whats with the hate? And yeah, he did.

@Foken Dikhed He did get it. But because he was trying to do his job he didn't break his professionalism. These guys are smart - no way that got past him.

I can't believe the cop wasn't smart enough to get it...

@TheMengusDew Psychology, the officer did try to be nice, aim for getting a confession, the job is stressful tbh I mean, from here, I could tell it is stressful when your job is to gain information but then the law says this way and the suspect behave like that. Damn.

Don't mind these other cats. I thought that was one of the funniest parts of the video. He told him the he had a right to remain silent, and then kept asking him the same question demanding a response. That's either a massive contradiction or a very slow officer.


How do we live in a society where people like Kim Kardashian are famous but nobody gives Jeff his own TV show?


This guy's the voice of Lucky on king of the hill.


"Playing the good cop"
"No normally im the prick"
"You look like a prick"
That made me laugh.
Edit:most likes I've ever gottan

Congratulations 👏. Well done. I bet you're bursting with pride..

Baron Corbin I gave a like, just for the edit! 👍

When did people start treating YouTube like it's plebbit?

Make another edit... Gottan isn't a word!

The deadpan delivery was flawless. Jeff is a legend.

I looked for a comment with that immediately when i heard it, its my favorite quote from this series

@Apex Shinøbi showing the example of the Bad Santa movie, which I've never seen, but it looks like the Joker movie borrowed from that movie where the scene where the Santa is in the change room with the midget. The Joker movie really clouded the anti-hero image

The best part is where the narrator chimes in and says, "This is Jeff."

Bryan Brody dame I’m actually angry at myself for how much I laughed during this 🤣🥴

So many parts of this got me to laugh literally out loud.

i read that comment and then it played you were right that was funny


I know this is about the robbery, but DANG 6’5 and 153 lbs?! Cuz of the heroine? 😗 that’s kinda crazy


He gave him a soda because they want his DNA


Can't believe you get coke in the US jail system
in Scotland we get water and fuck all else haha
Cereal bar to eat haha


suspect had a black hoodie, police officer has a black hoodie, just saying. Should get him and a bottle of coke into an interrogation room.


He asked for a lawyer. They can't/shouldn't question him until he gets one.

What you say is true except it was (Jeff) doing the luring

@clownworld heretic (Myron) it seems the original comment i was responding to has been deleted.  The entire context might not be there.  But i think the idea of "the law" and the law of the land described the supreme court's role in making things "law" without them actually being "law".  In this case the supreme courts decision is binding in the entire country, it is essentially law.

@Supervillain321 the supreme court doesnt make laws. they issue opinions. good comment otherwise

Welp, lets discuss "the law".  In this case the law is a 1966 United States Supreme Court ruling in Miranda v. Arizona.  Being a SCOTUS ruling, it becomes the law of the land, meaning the law in the entire country.

In this ruling they say:
"If the individual indicates in any manner, at any time prior to or during questioning, that he wishes to remain silent, the interrogation must cease ... If the individual states that he wants an attorney, the interrogation must cease until an attorney is present. At that time, the individual must have an opportunity to confer with the attorney and to have him present during any subsequent questioning."

Seems to me the law has been clear since 1966.  He requested an attorney, there should be no further questions until there is an attorney to represent him during questioning.  Any smart attorney would tell the cops to go fuck themselves and prove the charges without the suspects answers.

@alex  Care to explain how the original comment showed a lack of understanding of "the law"?


Wtf they said he work for coke 🤣😂 I'm shittin 💀


Does no one else find it problematic that despite him requesting a lawyer, that they kept bringing him back into interrogation without one?

@Antonino Bilello Will do my friend. I'm sorry you've had so many bad experiences with law enforcement. And again thank you for the civil conversation on such a hot button topic that so many people seem to explode about these days

@Wanheda2112 Sure, I can understand everything you've just said, but I was comparing my experiences in more than one city, more than one state, between calling the cops on private and commercial security breaches through the full spectrum of getting falsely accused, arrested, detained, and jailed. I've met polite cops, I've had cops cuss me out, and I've been interacted with them in all sorts of weather. I've interacted with wildlife and fisheries, many flavors of local cops, plus state troopers and sheriff's deputies. I've shaken hands with three different active sheriffs, but none of them were bright and none of them gave me the impression that they cared about anyone but their family, especially when they would tell me that in private, not to mention in different, more public circumstances. I would agree that the only way my experiences don't align with yours is that cops in the states and cities I've lived in don't care about their communities, so, again, thank those good cops you see every day for me.

@Antonino Bilello  No, I don't work in any sort of security job, I just live in an area with police departments that are very involved in the community. Though to your point, would the fact that you have different experiences than I do point to you also having a narrow set of experiences that contribute to your own ignorance? And I agree that experiences and ideas contradictory to my own are valuable and are to be respected. I do not believe we have lied to each other, I certainly haven't lied to you. I believe, as you said, that our individual life experiences contribute to our stances on this matter. I do appreciate that we've been able to have a civil discussion about this, it seems that's relatively difficult to do nowadays.

@Jackie Bunny 🗣Preach! I'm always super polite and nice to cops. When they've tried to get on my case, guess what? They just get upset. If the average person knew how much overtime pay for cops came out of taxpayer treasuries for paperwork (read: ruining someone's day or WHOLE LIFE for their job and advancement), we would have had protests far before Mr Floyd was killed.

@Wanheda2112 I never said I hadn't met helpful or polite cops. I'm guessing if you see cops every single day you work with a security detail? I'm "good" to people I can't stand if I have to work with them. You said you don't have any cops in your family? All of these things you've admitted to freely are claims of ignorance that I can't claim. Why then lack appreciation for the truths that are your idealistic social expectations and a decidedly narrow set of experiences? A contradiction to your perspectives and self-perception is something, on the contrary, to appreciate, if it's honest. We haven't lied to each other, have we? Thank you for your time, and please thank your daily police workers for being good people for me when you see them.

@Antonino Bilello I also live in the United States so I don't appreciate you calling me uninformed and idealistic when I see good cops every day. I'm not saying every one is perfect but it's also not fair to say that all cops aren't particularly bright or good people just because you've had encounters with bad cops. Not all people are smart or nice but that doesn't mean everyone's bad does it? I say that yes your experiences inform your views of cops but so do mine. The middle ground is what matters and that is that not all cops are bad, I hope we can at least agree on that.

Oh cops will do anything to make sure you don't talk to a lawyer, cops will lie to you, they'll tell you that you're gonna go to jail so you might as well confess and all that... DEMAND A LAWYER BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING

@Wanheda2112 I wish we all lived in Mayberry with Andy Griffith and Barney Fife, but cops don't protect anything where I come from. Making arrests and writing parking tickets doesn't make anyone an upholder of the law. Really, if your job is to arrest people, isn't in your best interest to find ways to arrest people? I know cops, they aren't particularly bright or good people, and they certainly aren't philosophers. You can't live in the United States and claim that the police uphold the law, either in practice or by job description. Sorry, I really am, but I live in the United States and I cannot agree with your uninformed idealism approaching an inaccurate assessment of reality. Much love from bayou country.

Former cop here, as long as they read his rights each time they talk, whichever time he signs that he understands his rights and doesn't want a lawyer, that's the one they keep. The rest go in a shredder.

Also the cop claims that he has enough physical evidence to prove he did it.  Then, why are they trying still getting him to confess?

No only bc he was telling them he would talk. If they were just going back to his cell and bringing him back in to question him, itd be illegal. That's why they read him his rights each time they brought him in. He admits that he only said he'd talk to get a coke and butterfinger

Remember everything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law . So after they read you your rights say you want a lawyer and keep your mouth shut . Thank me later

footballgirl1406 agree! I think there’s some people on this thread that may not have had the most positive experience with the law...😂

jhnnytsunami1 uh, no it’s not illegal to talk to a suspect after they ask for a lawyer IF they agree to talk without one! 😂😂😂 Keep that in mind as you graduate law school.

Bobby Brady wait for it...you’ve been arrested before...right? 😂😂😂 “The people who scream for barriers to be removed benefit by the removals of barriers!” Want to reduce your interaction with cops? Don’t break the law!! 😂😂😂

No, it’s not problematic because just as he asked for a lawyer, he can also agree to talk without a lawyer. He asked for a lawyer the first time and they let him go. The next sessions, he didn’t mention a lawyer so he evidently offered to talk without one.

The fact this guy is an addict and has been through the system several times before and was never given help or rehabilitation makes my blood bool

@jhnnytsunami1 I don't have any issues with anyone who wants to peacefully protest and exercise their 1st Amendment rights. "Peacefully" being the operative word there. I do not condone violence, rioting or looting from anyone, regardless if the cause.

Did you not hear him say he asked to come back so he could get another Coke? And a Butterfinger

@jhnnytsunami1 Actually I'm not related to any cops I just choose to respect those who are there to protect us and uphold the law. I also choose to believe that not all people are bad and therefore not all cops are bad.

had the same thing happen to me on robbery charges lol

had the same thing happen to me on robbery charges lol

@Keto uh yea, dunno where yer at but it's pretty much the opposite here in cheetoland

@Keto uh yea, dunno where yer at but it's pretty much the opposite here in cheetoland

Anything he says after asking for a lawyer is inadmissible.

Anything he says after asking for a lawyer is inadmissible.

@moz zo lol my bad. I'm with ya now. I was worked up and got carried away and didn't read your comment correctly.  Sorry.

Bobby Brady don’t forget who protects your ass from real criminals or protesters. I don’t live in America so I can’t understand how cops are in that country, but here they do their best and law stands in their way most of the time.

It is complete BS. Find an attorney, get their card, and carry it on you.. Memorize the number. Once you get a call, if they haven't given you an attorney already, call the number on the card. Worry about paying that shit off later once you are free to go.

@Forever Raining nah, I love it when the government follows the rules. Personally I think it's abhorrent to push the limits like this, but what they did isn't illegal

@Paul Pantsoff not sure why you think you know what you're talking about. Go read case law. The 5th amendment violation occurs at the statement's introduction into evidence. Even then it can be used for impeachment purposes and not for its truth. This is complicated stuff

@Wanheda2112 this is 100% correct. You a lawyer or just well-read?

@Wanheda2112 this is 100% correct. You a lawyer or just well-read?

Any subsequent statements would be inadmissible as evidence against him.

Any subsequent statements would be inadmissible as evidence against him.

@moz zo wow "just protocol "...nice to be above the law ain't it moz? Crooked and proud of it.

@jhnnytsunami1 It actually not illegal to keep asking you questions after you have asked for a lawyer. Your answers probably won't be admissible in court but yeah they can ask you questions. So before you condemn all police, just look up the policies for your State. Not all cops are bad bro

Im pretty sure he told them he would talk and than they dont need to wait for a lawyer, because it was is own wish to talk.
I dont think they could have put him there and tell him to talk with them even tho he wanted a lawyer and if they did i dont think he wouldn´t talk about it on the video.
Btw nice hate for no reason on the Cops lol.

He admits at one point that he told them he would talk to them for a coke and a butterfinger and then says later that he only told them that so he could get a coke, so I think we're missing some of the picture as well. And to be fair they did read him his rights every time and took his addiction into account.

Our law system and medical system is non-existent.
Our medical system in the US is a fucking hustle.
Our judicial system is a police state.
And it's all owned by our fucked up thugy cartels that love to call themselves "billionaires and millionaires" and their distancing act calling their businesses corporations so they're not legally responsible for any disaster or illegal acts their cartels do.
This man should have had a lawyer provided as soon as he stated he didn't want to talk to them.
And he was entrapped in given food and drink to entice to talk... this should be illegal unless used for military purposes.  Using this for civil criminal courts is very improper... it isn't uncommon to misspeak even in when innocent of a crime.
We should have a rehab program for the multitude of drug addicted people that they can be remanded into custody particularly if the use makes them completely unable to make basic reasonable decisions.
And not some prison sentence that consigns them to a lifetime of shit jobs and no hope often resulting in more crimes and more drug use.

Problematic? Of course, but they're cops so they'll do as much as they can manage to get away with lol. Problematic, absolutely. Shocking? Absolutely not


Dude why didn't I think of that just play with cop they get tired of it 🤣🤣🤣


h娜诶开诶艾哦吉诶迪勒弗哦吉


So am I the only one that isnt into that anti hero bs?


“now you’ve handcuffed me “ - a cop talking to a person in literal handcuffs

it's a psychological thing to make him more relatable

I think it was supposed to be ironic, to make him sympathize the cop more.

I laughed and said “well that’s a real poor choice of words” out loud when he said that lol

@BubbleArcadia Where's my coke at you promised. Or was that just a fairy tale

Exactly my thoughts. Poor choice of words.

@WhatIsAnName yes which was ironic given the context

I think he was talking in his perspective


Every day is Shut the Fuck Up Friday. Good work, Jeff.


Why are you giving me an opening end?? Is he working in Coca-Cola company or he’s in jail now!!!


Wham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell


Jeff "  playing good cop?"
Cop"err no. Usually I'm the  prick"
Jeff " you look like a prick"

Utterly priceless 🤣😂🤣

You reckon he deserves that mate.... He is obviously  trying to stitch him up the detective is....

@secretive Scorpio  thanks for typing out what we all heard by watching. human wastebin

gratz you watched the same 30 second intro we all watched

I laughed out loud so hard at this part hahaha

@Victoria Lee Florence oh yeah, he seems like a real character

Yeah I fuckin love this dude. I can see why he’s become a fave.


He asked for lawyer THREE TIMES!! #FuckOffCop


Oh and the cokes are always good for DNA 🙄


Withdrawal is horrible man, I would of been singing like a canary to get some methadone....Jeff is definitely a  legend, that would be a nightmare situation to be in.


Officer: You have the right to remain silent
Jeff:
Officer: heyyy why you no talk to me🥺👉👈

@Fluffy BRUH THERE NAME IS LITARALLY JUST NO

@RoseyAnne - right but it only benefits him to remain quiet. He could state he did not understand.

I mean.... He wasn't saying whether he understood that was his right or not....💀

Jeff: 1:36
Officer: hello darkness my old friend...

What you say may be used AGAINST you in court.


“You have the right to remain silent”
wondering why he’s not answering

“You have the right to remain silent”
*wondering why he’s not answering*

@Detective M never ever said that or insinuated that but ur trying to strawman my argument buddy thought he was gonna catch me lacking in this bih nice try tho

@Detective M lol most cops got bullied in highschool and probably never went to college. They just want to be in a position of power to abuse people


Lmfao ima have to rewatch bad Santa it's been yrs anyway


Jeff taught us all how to get free cokes in jail. Gotta love this guy.

@A_True_Generic_Gamer cookie monster in a prison bathroom stall with a spoon full of cookie dough and a lighter.

"Love this guy"? Really? Did people really just forget he's convicted of armed robbery

A legend meme from his name: "My name Jeff"

I only read it as not cookies after reading your comment. Weird.


I’m running out of videos to watch, can’t the rest be put on patreon??


“where do you usually get ur methadone”
“i don’t i get heroin”
this gotta be a fuckin comedy sketch bruh LMAO

@Trish Gonzalez Actually it wouldn't have, because that was already implied. All it does it repeat the punchline, which makes it LESS funny.

@Who Cares It's possible. They don't give men menthadone in jail in the USA, so I don't think there's any protocol for that sort of situation. Also, if you're used to shooting dope every day for ten years like Jeff, a little bit of methadone isn't going to do much to you, but I see what you mean.

Had they given him the methadone, he could have later claimed the entire interrogation invalid because he was under the influence of something the police gave him

Would've been funnier if he had added, "and I figured y'all didn't have heroin"

I was thinking 'they really should give these dudes methadone if they're sick in jail', but then I realized he would never have been so smooth if they had because it would've softened him up. His game was SOLID for someone getting dope sick with 15yrs hanging over his head.


How about a Butterfinger🤣🤣🤣, I like Jeff


Jeff talks like nate diaz if anyone follows mma will get this 😂


If the cops don’t have proof. They don’t care about talking to you.


"He said he would talk for a coke and a butterfinger" kills me

@iamupinacloud Doesn't matter, he doesn't have to say anything to them even if he agrees to for favors.

@bait He made a typo comrade, he meant butterfinger

@Almighty Chris what's a butterringer? Sorry but we don't have anything like that here

He probably would've just asked for Methadone next and told them that he wouldn't talk unless he got some.


Wam bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell


Andrew Schultz had a weird gig before this interrogation.


I've never heard of Jeff before but how did this interrogation even become public? Like I don't understand why and how this interrogation was released to the public, news and YouTube? It's not like it's a murder case or he was accused of some high profile crime, it's just an armed robbery and by the sounds of things the cops had no evidence on him if he was released 12 hours later. Sounds like he could have just been at the wrong place at the wrong time if he was hanging out at a buddy's house. Cops swarm the area looking for an armed robbery suspect, he comes outside with his buddy they run his name, see he has a record and bring him in and try and get a confession

Because this video is being used for training purposes


How come it's not mentioned that Jeff asked for a lawyer numerous times, yet was never provided a lawyer.  When you ask for a lawyer, the interview stops until you get a lawyer.  Police don't get to stop the interview and throw you back into a cell when you ask for a lawyer, just to interview you again a couple hours later, without a lawyer.  A cell is not a timeout, in hopes that the suspect forgets that he already asked for a lawyer.

They probably kept interrogating because he was coming down from heroin and his attorney could use his impairment as a defense. I'm sure the prosecution wants him to make his statement as clear headed in order to make a solid case against him.

I’ve read about this in a forensic justice course I took once. It’s well within their rights to skirt around somebody saying that by dropping the interview at that time and then later asking to speak with the suspect again. It won’t get thrown out in court. It’s the suspects responsibility to say “I want a lawyer” any time they are about to be questioned. Just one of those things where there’s more “bend” in real-life scenarios than one may expect reading the letter of the law

@Michael P man no need to be so rude about it yo

@Michael P man no need to be so rude about it yo

He looks like Christian Bale from the Machinist

He looks like Christian Bale from the Machinist

@Michael P cop got played by Jeff😂. He got his coke&butter finger and didn't give any info that the cop was hoping to get. 😂😂

@Michael P cop got played by Jeff😂. He got his coke&butter finger and didn't give any info that the cop was hoping to get. 😂😂

@Lassi Kinnunen 81 He WAS an addict in withdrawal, hence why he asked for methadone, yet refused to SPEAK let alone sign anything.
I hate the entire police force, please don’t get me wrong here.
But they continued to put him in his cell as soon as he asked for representation, and subsequently brought him back out into interrogation when he waived his right to council in order to get soda or a candy bar, just to invoke his rights (which is entirely within his power) once again.

In this particular case the police followed procedure completely, which is why he was released from jail and never put into the prison system for this charge, or even tried for his suspected crime.
He outsmarted all of them, and in a way I respect him for that.
However even with that being said, armed robbery specifically certainly isn’t a victimless crime, and I’m sure the victims involved (y’know, the innocent people with guns pointed in their face that likely thought they’d be killed that night) DO deserve justice.
Does he deserve life in prison? Absolutely not. But let’s say police had the right person, he should have served some hard time for putting innocent people through such a traumatic experience.

On the other hand, clearly they didn’t have sufficient evidence to continue holding him, so it’s quite possible he wasn’t the one to commit the robberies. We don’t know.

@Lee Wisda  Had he said “I THINK I want a lawyer” or even “MAYBE I should get a lawyer” you’d be correct. The interrogation can continue, because THINKING you want to ask for a lawyer, or saying you MAYBE should get one doesn’t count as invoking, as it’s merely a hypothetical. However if you say the words “I want a lawyer” that is instantly invoking your right to council. You don’t have to say the words verbatim “I would like to invoke my right to council.” And even AFTER invoking said right, the police can still talk AT you, they just can’t use any response you give in court.

In this case he’d invoke, they’d take him back to his cell, he’d waive his right to council so they’d bring him back in for an interrogation and he could get soda or candy, just to invoke again. Rinse and repeat. You can waive your right to council and re-invoke as many times as you’d like.

Personally I like him for this ingenuity, that’s why the term “antihero” is explained. He was smart, he used his rights to his advantage without ever divulging any evidence, and subsequently was released from jail because of it. But he DID invoke by saying “I want a lawyer” and he DID continue being brought in for waiving said right. I trust police as far as I can throw them, and I’m severely physically disabled. I couldn’t throw a dumbbell over 70lbs.
But everything about this was by the books.

hes raising money to sue them his link is on his yt account that people posted in the other highly upvoted comments

hes raising money to sue them his link is on his yt account that people posted in the other highly upvoted comments

@Lee Wisda my statement, if necessary. "Excuse me officer, I will have to invoke my right to counsel and will be unable to give a statement or answer any questions until I can contact my attorney. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.  I will give you a full statement and cooperate fully as soon as possible.  Thank you for your understanding in this matter." Then I prepare to go to jail.  lol

@Picture me trollin cops are hella shady and all they care about are convictions, they don't care if you're guilty or not. i really don't get what people don't understand about "*anything you say can and will be used against you" they mean anything, including semantics. Wanting something is not the same thing as asserting your constitutionally protected rights.

@Lee Wisda yes sir you are absolutely correct you must invoke your right to an attorney and you must invoke your right to remain silent they can still talk in front of you and ask questions to each other hoping you'll answer or maybe see how you react to them "reviewing  the case notes" so we are "on the same page " as the investigating officers, we have to be able to "corroborate", Your Honor.  We were not talking to the defendant, we were talking to each other. This is for anyone who think they can help LEOs by answering questions!  ***VERY IMPORTANT! - In the US, police are allowed to testify by stating  "hear say"  as facts. Yes, you heard that right! Police can  get on the stand & swear an oath that what someone else told the officer is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.  But it has to be a "truth" that points toward your guilt. IF THE OFFICER STATS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED TO POINT TOWARDS YOUR INNOCENTS, IT IS NOT ALLOWED & MUST BE STRICKEN FROM THE RECORD AND DISREGARDED BY THE JURY!!!!  Making a statement to LEOs without an attorney can only be used to hurt you! It cannot & will not be used to help you!!! If that doesn't make you see why talking to police is a bad idea,  then nothing will!

@Lee Wisda thanks for that link. I've never had problems with police but it's good to know these things just in case I might need them one day.

@Lee Wisda thanks for that link. I've never had problems with police but it's good to know these things just in case I might need them one day.

@Michael P exactly! The same as why is Jeff asking for Coke and candy and not for water and sandwich 😉

@Michael P exactly! The same as why is Jeff asking for Coke and candy and not for water and sandwich 😉

up quite well. I don't know if the info is true but Jeff did turn his life around<br> He got clean and he is doing something with music ( producing or something like that)

up quite well. I don't know if the info is true but Jeff did turn his life around
 He got clean and he is doing something with music ( producing or something like that)

@BlackWallStreet i refuse to give my energy to people who have to add insults in order to add strength to their statements

@BlackWallStreet i refuse to give my energy to people who have to add insults in order to add strength to their statements

@BlackWallStreet While there are no specific words required to invoke, the Supreme Court has held that an invocation is sufficient so long as "a reasonable police officer, in the circumstances, would understand the statement to be a request for an attorney." REASONABLE POLICE OFFICER since when tf are officers reasonable?? they can and will happily say well he said he wanted a lawyer but then he started confessing so how am I suppose to know what he really wanted?? what part about ACAB do you not understand. I would never under any circumstances trust a cop to fully respect my rights unless i used unrefutable language. Yes you don't have to specifically say invoke but it is the surest way to ensure your rights legally have to be respected. but I highly advise against say "I want..." becuase it is not the same thing as "get me a lawyer now" or "I won't talk until I see my lawyer" . It's your life do whatever you want, but this is my truth and every single link I read about it says the same thing about <b>reasonable police officers</b> and that's fucking comical here in the US. I don't trust cops, and never will

@BlackWallStreet While there are no specific words required to invoke, the Supreme Court has held that an invocation is sufficient so long as "a reasonable police officer, in the circumstances, would understand the statement to be a request for an attorney." REASONABLE POLICE OFFICER since when tf are officers reasonable?? they can and will happily say well he said he wanted a lawyer but then he started confessing so how am I suppose to know what he really wanted?? what part about ACAB do you not understand. I would never under any circumstances trust a cop to fully respect my rights unless i used unrefutable language. Yes you don't have to specifically say invoke but it is the surest way to ensure your rights legally have to be respected. but I highly advise against say "I want..." becuase it is not the same thing as "get me a lawyer now" or "I won't talk until I see my lawyer" . It's your life do whatever you want, but this is my truth and every single link I read about it says the same thing about *reasonable police officers* and that's fucking comical here in the US. I don't trust cops, and never will

"How come it's not mentioned that Jeff asked for a lawyer numerous times, yet was never provided a lawyer"<br>How come most young people fuck up at the most basic of things, like ending questions with a question mark? :o

"How come it's not mentioned that Jeff asked for a lawyer numerous times, yet was never provided a lawyer"
How come most young people fuck up at the most basic of things, like ending questions with a question mark? :o

I'm going to speak to the heroine heroine use vs intelligence thing :  I've personally NEVER touched it, but I I have known multiple people who were addicted to it. All of them were smart people and all of them had "good" teeth. We tend to view junkies how Hollywood portrays them, and I'm sure that there are some who would be like that, but none of the ones I knew were.  Only one went from pain meds to heroine. Some I knew prior to their use, some after they got clean and some during.. ALL of them would have been deemed above average intelligence I. Q. Score wise. What I know is that in most cases they were trying to cope with pain, mental pain, not physical except for the one that was on pain meds first. Believe it or not but the world is not easy for smart people to deal with. You'd think there would be an advantage, but that ISN'T the case. Ask the smartest person you know if they have to dumb down for other people. It's also a misconception that money and intelligence go hand in hand. You can have an I. Q. Close to 200 but if you have no money you'll find it difficult to make money.  (yes, I do actually know some one that topped out the Iq chart and he's dirt poor, not a heroine user to my knowledge) it seems to be that they got hooked because of the escape it provided.

@bul166 lmao "watch any true crime program"

@bul166 lmao "watch any true crime program"

@bul166 because you asked lawyers... not cops.... I will never trust cops to respect my rights fully... ACAB. Full stop.

@bul166 because you asked lawyers... not cops.... I will never trust cops to respect my rights fully... ACAB. Full stop.

As a criminal with over 30 years experience in various prisons, i can add that I've never heard of someone having to use the word "invoke". I think i would have heard of it. Hell, i was a law library clerk for over 3 years...

Jeff has to initiate the conversation each time by telling the detectives he will talk. That's why there are several attempts to interrogate him with each time having his miranda rights read.

@Lee Wisda you’re wrong. I work @ Preti, Flaherty, in the Portland office(rather than Augusta). I’m not an attorney, but a paralegal/notary/A. Brokers lic.(for real estate purposes; deeds, zoning etc.) & I just spoke to 3 attys after a deposition re:this. It’s laughable. You don’t have to say ‘invoke ‘, & btw, if you did have to- ya know that EVERY 2 bit criminal, thug, delinquent, drug dealer or user would KNOW that! Thes3 are people who have been bounced through the judicial process repeatedly. Nee, it’d be common knowledge. Jeff just kept changing his mind & telling em he’d talk(for Coke, Butterfinger..). He was playing em like a fiddle. He just wanted outta the cell, get a soda & maybe see what he could figure out from them. But soon as it came to really  divulging anything, he shut his mouth, said he wanted lawyer & told them to take him back to his cell. Stop arguing this, really. You’re digging a moronic hole & speaking on a subject 3 attys just refuted instantly. Every one of them, & one alooked at me with raised eyebrows and started saying “what’s the joke? Gimme the punchline”, because he thought it was such a ludicrous question. Walt said, “.watch any true crime program on television and you can see that there’s no legislation on what vocabulary is used. Don’t even have to ask for atty, just say you’re done talking. Ends the interview.” Ya can see in this where the first cop says “I’m handcuffed now, ya asked for a lawyer “. Don’t try & be interpretive about something you saw or read, just get it from the horses mouth- ask an attorney, a judge, or just see how it’s functioning in the real world. You ever see a case where they say “well he asked for a lawyer, said he didn’t wanna talk, but he didn’t say INVOKE, so we got him!”?!! They’d be laughed out of the courtroom & drummed out of their job.

he was using them for sweets because it helps with heroin withdrawals so he kept waving his right for a lawyer and them giving them nothing. he was playing them.

he was using them for sweets because it helps with heroin withdrawals so he kept waving his right for a lawyer and them giving them nothing. he was playing them.

Man you been watching a lot of tv haven’t you

Man you been watching a lot of tv haven’t you

They can sign something saying they waive a lawyer, even after they request one, right? I've seem them offer that a bunch of times before

They can sign something saying they waive a lawyer, even after they request one, right? I've seem them offer that a bunch of times before

"Real life is not like TV." This was told to a friend of mine who was in jail arrested for cannabis for which she had a legal prescription when she asked to make a phone call and was denied. This happened in Oakland California btw.

I think he got himself into the interrogation room a few times more in order to get a coke, as he states in the video

I think he got himself into the interrogation room a few times more in order to get a coke, as he states in the video

@SaraG what makes you think cops have your best interest at heart? especially when they think you're guilty and trying to coax a confession out of you. they're leagally allowed to lie to you...

@Reheat The Pasta People who have been “successfully” on heroin for years are usually extremely smart!  It’s a cruel world where the less smart and resourceful either end up in jail or dead!  <br>Trust me, I know this from personal experiences with addicts.

@Reheat The Pasta People who have been “successfully” on heroin for years are usually extremely smart!  It’s a cruel world where the less smart and resourceful either end up in jail or dead!
Trust me, I know this from personal experiences with addicts.

@kiai found the guys channel and my stance is the same. Hope for good things for the guy

@kiai found the guys channel and my stance is the same. Hope for good things for the guy

@Reheat The Pasta look at the top comment!

@Reheat The Pasta look at the top comment!

@Lee Wisda Lee, both of your sources back up what we're telling you about your hair-splitting semantics. They both say that saying "I want a lawyer" is the same as invoking your right to a lawyer. The kind of conjectural semantic hair-splitting you're doing isn't insightful or intelligent. It's just you being silly and acting grandiose.

Asking for a lawyer is not the same as invoking your fifth amendment right.   Most people should ask for a lawyer then shut up.   Invoking your fifth amendment rights - despite what we are told - can be used by the police as justification for arresting you or getting a search warrant - so in many cases it's better just to say "I need a lawyer" and then shut up.

There was a case where a suspect "asked for a lawyer" - so the cop left and a well dressed detective came in sat, and said nothing.   The suspect presumed the well dressed detective was a lawyer appointed for him - so he spilled his guts.  His conviction was upheld in court.

@Jame Retief My genuine pleasure! I feel a lot of passion about it because its easy to say stay out of trouble, dont do things that will get you arrested yada yada, but you never know... wrongful convictions happen all the time..

also, that fuckin butterfinger omg haha. eat one for jeff, for me, will ya?

Lee Wisda I'm not in the least mad at you and am grateful you pointed this crap out to me. If I'm ever arrested I'll remember this. I also plan to tell,all my family and friends. Thanks and if I ever run into you I owe you a coke.....and a Butterfinger 😎

@Jame Retief yes yes yes yes yes ! they'll hit you with the, "if you're innocent you have nothing to hide why do you need a lawyer? only guilty people need a lawyer" yeah fuck that, bye 100 times over. Don't talk to cops if they're reading you your miranda rights because after you agree to understanding your rights every single thing in that interview will be used against you if they can. If you don't verbalize your agreement to the miranda rights, or even sign it they can't interview you. ironically its an example from a fictionary film, but in 21st jump street they have to let go someone they arrested because they didn't read him his miranda rights. also look into the histroy of miranda rights and why they're even called miranda rights.  when jeff said "put me back in my cell" it was a clear direct way of ending the interview. I promise you if he had said "i want to be put back in my cell" they would have ignored him for the same reason they didn't get him a lawyer when he said he wanted one.

Lee Wisda unless it is to use the toilet, ask for a drink or food, or your prescribed meds keep your mouth shut and don't sign a damn thing until you lawyer advises you to. They're just trying to clear a case, they don't give a damn if you innocent they just want a clear rate on their job evaluation. This doesn't go for all police, just a vast majority because of the pressure from above. Take a page from Jeff's book and remember a few hours later he walked, if he had talked it would have been a couple of decades later if he was lucky.

Lee Wisda so let me know the exact wording ti get a lawyer. Because if you want a lawyer the officer must tell you to use the words invoke asking for one is not enough. I looked it up and you are correct and that is a scummy trick if the police do not carefully tell them the wording to use. In spirit it violates Miranda and lowers my respect for cops that don't explain it to suspects that are absolutely unaware of the distinction. Why is that not specifically pointed out on the Miranda rights?

@Jame Retief https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-rights/invoking-the-right-to-remain-silent.html
reasonable officers will hear " i want a lawyer" and respond accordingly, but what if they're not reasonable.... what if they're convinced you're guilty and will do anythig to coax a confession out of you. what do you think "anything you say can and will be used against you". when you say you're invoking there is undeniably no turn around or "wiggle room" as they say. its the terrifying truth that they don't have your best interest at heart when they're interrogating you. semantics 1000% matter in the court of law. hair splitting terminology matters.

@Hyra Elle the link i gave you is one of hundreds saying the same thing... invoke invoke invoke invoke invoke. not want. INVOKE!

@Hyra Elle the link i gave you is one of hundreds saying the same thing... invoke invoke invoke invoke invoke. not want. INVOKE!

@Hyra Elle just because you say "objection denied" doesn't make you right. do your own reasearch. I say all of this because its a genuine fear. what do you think they mean when they say "anything you say can and will be used against you." Cases are won and lost over semantics. I promise you wanting something is not the same thing as actively invoking your legally protected rights, and they will absolutely use that against you if they think your guilty and they're trying to coaxe a confession out of you.

@Jame Retief I want to agree with you so badly, but unfortuanately there's a lot more evidence of the contrary... do your own research into the difference of asking for a lawyer vs actively invoking

@Hyra Elle https://www.pittsburghcriminalattorney.com/when-and-how-to-invoke-your-right-to-silence-and-an-attorney/ Semantics matter more than you think...i want to agree with you, but what do you think "anything, can and will be used against you" means.. it means they'll use your own semantics against you. wanting something is very different than actively asserting your legal protected right to something. I can say I want to eat a burger, but that doesn't mean I will order a burger at the resturant I'm at. I can say I want a million dollars. That doesn't mean I will get a milllion dollars. I can say I want an attorney. That doesn't mean I'll actually get an attourney. INVOKING your rights is undeniably applying your constitutionally protected rights. Do your own researach

@Lee Wisda the semantics of meaning is the same, objection denied.

@Lee Wisda the semantics of meaning is the same, objection denied.

Lee Wisda that's hair splitting only that would be shot down in court. You're asking arrested people to use narrow legalese or it doesn't count. Asking for a lawyer IS the same as "invoking the right to one". Christ the ACLU would tear a new asshole into any DA or cop trying that shady excuse.

because he never "invoked" his rights. Wanting a lawyer is very different than actively invoking your right to one. They're very serious when they say "anything you say, can and will be used against you"

@Michael P smart guy, well at least clever. Smart and heroin doesn’t match up in my brain but I don’t get a skeevery vibe from the dude. Hope his life turns around honestly/;

To clarify, he's in holding because he IS being charged. The reason for the multiple interviews is because Jeff kept saying he would talk if he gets a coke and candy. So they bring him back up there for the interview. Jeff of course gives them nothing after he gets his coke. Try to keep up

@Sonnig85 They can, but then everything they get gets tossed in court

@Sonnig85 They can, but then everything they get gets tossed in court

No the police cab still continue the interrogation even after a lawyer is asked for

No the police cab still continue the interrogation even after a lawyer is asked for


His interrogation clip should be made into a Coca-Cola ad.


i heard he is working for the biden admin now


wham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell