Imagine if Jeff never started using heroine, the guy had been addicted for over 10 years and hung out with the wrong people, and still he can manage to stand his own in an interrogation. That would have been a pretty smart guy I'd say.

Do you mean successful? He's already smart by evading the questions from the detective. Street smarts is better than book smarts any day.

@Old Man Superfly detox and recovery does

I hope the best for him. He's intelligent, brave, and entertaining to watch. He's relatively handsome as well.

Redux yes in my limited experience is seems to have not only terrible costs to a person but also some hidden value creatively. Although it certainly is terrible like any drug addiction.

I feel his addiction is what made him this strong

Austin Blackburn yes your absolutely correct as shown in many studies (Psychiatria Danubina, 2011; Vol. 23, No. 1, pp 53-59). However it also seems to further creativity in some select individuals. Perhaps those that were already highly creative (see Steve Earl interview for example where he discusses his addiction).

@nakula kaufman worked full time spent 60% of my income on drugs, also had a huge inheritance which i wasted, that was $300k over 5 years, it all adds up, should have made better life choices, but thats life we make mistakes and its what we learn from them that matters and that its never to late to turn your life around. took me 7+ years to get fully clean of all hard drugs, i still occasionally smoke a joint at a party, but i dont drink nor do heavy drugs at all

@nig a damn what did u do to make all that money

@kuszynier some of the smartest people ever were to be fair. It's a said fact of life.

@Kindred Could you link me to where you studied about this

I completely agree what a brain power just wasted on drugs.

Nope, if he would be a smart guy he would never take heroin in the first place

at one point i started to calculate how much id spent on drugs over a 20 year period while working as a "functioning" addict... its fucking depressing to see you have wasted close to a million on drugs

You mean clever, not smart. These interrogations are poorly executed and conducted by your average joes with poor training. But in the case of an intelligent criminal needing interrogation, they have a special unit for this which is normally handed off to the F.B.I. If you are being interrogated by moronic officers then you're not very bright, to begin with.

I know this because I studied the interrogation performed by these special units and the difference is astronomical. The environment, the ambiance, the way they spoke, the way they articulated their questions everything about their interrogations were set up to defeat a madman. For madness is intelligence, but to control madness at a hyper-intelligent level would be pure insanity. When Oppenheimer was interrogated by the security union taskforce - F.B.I / C.I.A / H.L.S they were overwhelmed and then another taskforce was created until they had to close the whole investigation altogether. Oppenheimer manifested his insanity and fear into others to the point where all his psychiatrists and psychologists dropped his case after the first session with him. The destroyer of worlds had a mind that even a god would fear because of how insane his thought process was, and after they dropped little boy and fat man he was never the same, and the help he would seek would not come because of how all these specialists and experts would disintegrate before his very words.

True this,  early recovery is a zombie phase.  Nothing productive comes out of an addict in early recovery

@ouimetco I'm glad you shared this, I never used aside alcohol

I’d say hanging around the wrong people and getting arrested multiple times is what made him so good at standing his own in the interrogation.

Heroin addiction does not reduce owns creativity or intelligence. Quite the opposite actually (through my exposure to such addicts). Many have soared creatively while addicted and lost it once clean. Not condoning addiction or heroin at all. Just my experience with them.

He is street smart for sure. Its a common thread. He can be successful just he isn't.


Either Jeff is a genius or those cops are brain dead.

Let's go with both

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Bless you Jeff, we are all pulling for you.


That "thanks for the coke" was sarcasm, lmao


If yall think Coke hired Jeff to work on their corporate marketing team then yall are a bunch of fools.
What is Jeffs last name?  What state/city is this is?
 Seems like if he is back in the system he would be able to be found pretty easy.


Dude: you have the right to not answer without an attorney
Jeff: Doesn’t answer and wants his lawyers
Dude: BUT WHY

I know. He read the rights and Jeff was like oh ya remain silent and they were like wait no

That’s the point of having to read them lol


This guy requested a lawyer 50 times, interrogated him multiple times without giving him one.

Thats why he knew he had this in the bag. If the cops have solid evidence they'll give you a lawyer no time flat. But if their trying to play you this is what they do. Its sad 1 he's being detained their giving him snacks and sodas to get you to relax and after hours of this most people give in and relax and start talking. Which almost always ends up fucking them over.

and still owned them, without a lawyer, like a boss


Jeff is awesome. He’s way more likable than any cop. He’s the perfect example on how you should conduct yourself around police

Considering he's also going further and further into heroin withdrawal during this whole series of videos, he conducted himself extremely well.

most cops are trying to get you to confess to robbing a bank, so you don’t need to employ any of these tactics usually. if you get pulled over and refuse to speak to the cop things are gonna go a lot worse for you than if you had spoken to them

Exactly!! This video shows all the ways cops will try to get you to speak, all the lies they’ll throw at you. Jeff shut down every single one. He would be a dream client for a defense attorney honestly lol


“Thanks for the coke” that actually broke my heart man. This whole interrogation seemed unethical

“Thanks for the coke” that actually broke my heart man. This whole interrogation seemed unethical

@Buggle Magnum I don't care if you don't think it's real. You can look it up. No I'm not in school anymore either. It is rare but you can be allergic to weed.

@Once Twice Okay, so quote the actual study. How do they know its from smoking weed and not just a coincidence with those low numbers. What are the control numbers, how long were they studied for? How does it feel to be tricked into thinking weed might kill you if you're not allergic,

As soonn as he asked for an attorney and the cop kept pushing for more that when the ethics went right out the window

As soonn as he asked for an attorney and the cop kept pushing for more that when the ethics went right out the window

@Peter B Yes YOUR criminal justice system is a mess and yes WE laugh at you. I am not a part of YOUR problem, I'm just pointing out the facts and laws.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Both our legal and criminal justice system is a mess and most of the world laughs at us so any legality you pull out of your ass as an excuse is just that... an excuse. As a lawyer you should probably know all of this but clearly you lack the humanity to see this situation from any other perspective but your own and are just as much a part of the problem. Congratulations!

@Once Twice also >france <br>i rest my case

@Once Twice smoke. inhalation. doesnt mention whether they also smoked cigarettes, doesnt mention how they died, just that they did use cannabis, and happened to die. yea bud,everyone dies.

@eternal rain that doesnt sound real are you in school still

@eternal rain that doesnt sound real are you in school still

@Buggle Magnum It can take up to 6 hours. We are not always free and government is pretty slow.

@Buggle Magnum It can take up to 6 hours. We are not always free and government is pretty slow.

@Rae Major, as in finished the school. I made it clear in many comments that I’ve been in and out of these kind of situations many times.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun no, they're supposed to bring a damn lawyer when he asks , pole.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun no, they're supposed to bring a damn lawyer when he asks , pole.

it was, he asked for his lawyer more than once

it was, he asked for his lawyer more than once

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun wait so I’m just trying to keep up... you said you’re a law major, but now you’re saying you’re a criminal law lawyer. So are you a student or a practising lawyer?

@LordofFullmetal Human Rights are decided by the United Nations and are universal. A country not following those rights doesn’t mean it is not a human right.

@LordofFullmetal Nope. I am a criminal law lawyer. From the tape we don’t know if they DENIED him a lawyer, all we know is after he asked for a lawyer he was taken to his cell and five hours later he was back talking to cops which is legal because in the tape it is clear that there has been a deal between Jeff and the cops. Clearly he changed his mind and made a deal. It can take way longer than five hours to get a lawyer especially if it is being provided by the government. Cops have no say in this.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun No... Basic human rights are actually completely subjective, and vary wildly from place to place and from time to time. For example - the US has freedom of speech. My country does not. You have no right to freedom of speech where I live. Some countries have NO basic human rights at all.

I don't think you even know what a fact IS, buddy. A "fact" is something like "The Earth is a planet". An opinion is "I think this is morally wrong/I think this has a negative impact on humans". To use YOUR example, I'm pretty sure the slave owners would strongly disagree with your idea that slavery had a negative impact.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Are you, yourself a cop who has done things they shouldn't have? Because any reasonable person would understand the difference between a person making a choice of their own free will, versus making a choice under extreme duress. There's a LEGAL precedent for that - if you bully someone into giving you sex, by asking over and over until you get a yes, that is legally considered rape. It is well-documented that consent given under duress is not consent.

This is EXACTLY what the cops did in this situation. They bullied him into giving up his rights. They denied him a lawyer over and over for hours, and continuously tried to interrogate him without one (which by the way is against the law; legally, once you say "I want a lawyer", they are supposed to stop talking to you until the lawyer shows up), until he gave up because he realised he wasn't going to get a lawyer no matter what. In ANY other situation, this would be considered "duress". In a sexual situation, it would be a crime. There is NO justification for it. You're just outing yourself as a psychopath who feels no empathy for others, really.

@Novak withdrawals are not medical conditions until it causes an emergency

@Novak withdrawals are not medical conditions until it causes an emergency

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun laws dont care abt medical conditions goes brrrrrrr

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun laws dont care abt medical conditions goes brrrrrrr

@eternal rain "France, published this year in the Journal of the American Heart AssociationTrusted Source, researchers identified 35 cases of cardiovascular complications, amounting to 1.8 percent of all serious side effects from cannabis use reported to a government database. Nine of the patients died." Let me know how being wrong feels.

@IV X that's whataboutery. The robbery does NOT give cops the excuse to violate human rights. Come on.

@IV X that's whataboutery. The robbery does NOT give cops the excuse to violate human rights. Come on.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Come on man, they may be following procedure and it may be legal, but claiming that they're not benefitting from his withdrawals or that they aren't aware of how that can be used against the guy is an insult to the intelligence of everyone involved.

@Martin Svoboda I agree, first off this isn't a human interaction, the police and the suspect are not on anything remotely close to equal footing.  The police have an incredible power advantage in literally every real way.  The only power that a suspect has (in the us at least) is remaining silent.  The police have a multitude of levers they can use against him, and they're well versed in all of them.

@IV X No, the real problem is that if they railroad this guy then the actual people that committed the crime are still at large, and will never be investigated for this again.  For everyone innocent that is lead to a false confession you have a criminal (or group) that just got away with it and are now possibly even more emboldened.

A crime happened, assuaging the victim's feelings of insecurity  (which you can do by finding some random guy and hanging him in the town square) is not the point of the police force.

We don't tolerate police, their tactics, and brutality (they are brutal towards those they suspect are criminals, which is required) just to make people feel better.  We tolerate all of that because they get it right a lot of the time.  The rules of evidence and rights of the accused are very important tools to help keep policing more toward getting that right and less toward giving everyone a false sense of security through the periodic sacrifice of innocents.

@Once Twice There is literally no one who has died from weed besides 1 kid who was allergic and ate a shit ton of brownies made with thc concentrates, who didn't know ahead of time that he was. He died from his allergies though, still sad. There's a reason you didn't give any examples of people dying from weed. It doesn't happen.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Btw, what will harm people is not objective. The meaning of harm itself is subjective, let alone what causes it.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Right, but weed isn't legal everywhere. And it's not like the places where it is illegal don't have access to the information that it's isn't dangerous. The reason it's banned is because of people having a subjective repulsion to the drug and/or the people that use it. Ergo law isn't just objective.

Same with slavery, do you really think everyone thought slaves literally weren't human back when it was legal? Ofc they did. But they let it be legal because it was great for economic reasons. And their subjective opinion was that it was worth the violation of human rights.

By your logic slavery is harmless right up to the point that it becomes illegal. Because if it's not against the law, and the law is objective, then it's fine. And if it's against the law, and the law is objective, it's not moral.

That's not how laws work, we decide what should be a law or not by having an ethical discussion, at least that's how it's supposed to be. And as you said, ethics are subjective. Therefore laws are also subjective.

@Once Twice Smoke inhilation can have some impact on health but that’s it. There is absolutely zero reason why weed would cause arrythmia or cardiac arrest and you literally cannot overdose on weed. You’re the one who’s spreading BS to push personal agendas.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Idk what you're smoking but weed can have serious impact on health. Literally ask anyone who smokes a lot and often for years and years. There have been cases of death even and it's known fact that it can cause heart arrhythmias and sudden cardiac arrest. Only reason ppl say you can't overdose on it is bc it isn't clear how much is too much and bc when it comes to heart issues it's hard to prove that there couldn't have been other factors causing it than weed. Yes it's safer than most drugs and alcohol etc but you shouldn't spread bs abt it only to push your personal agenda.

@Só Léo Let’s see, we all agree on basic human rights. Right? We decided on them based on what will harm people. And that is a fact rather than something subjective. Slavery has negative impact on humans and therefore against human rights and illegal. Weed has zero to minimal health risks on people, no one died overdosing from weed and therefore should be legal everywhere.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun It will likely never be legal, but the definition and degrees of murder are based on what we consider moral or not.

I like that you picked the easiest possible example. How about when the law changed to make slavery a crime? Or what crimes warrant the death penalty, if any, or if weed is legal or not, totally not subjective, yeah?

Facts don't change, science changes because we discover other facts.

@Só Léo Criminal law and other laws are different. It will never be legal to murder someone without a reason because it is a violation of basic human rights. Also, facts <i>do</i> like to change. It’s science.

@Só Léo Criminal law and other laws are different. It will never be legal to murder someone without a reason because it is a violation of basic human rights. Also, facts _do_ like to change. It’s science.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Guess those facts like changing a lot, since laws do that. Good one, dude.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Guess those facts like changing a lot, since laws do that. Good one, dude.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun This interview of Jeff is in the US. Thus, at the moment we are talking about the US.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun This interview of Jeff is in the US. Thus, at the moment we are talking about the US.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun https://www.cga.ct.     gov/2014.   /rpt/2014-R-0071.htm speaks about how widely used it is. Also mentions it’s critiques (while of course stating some of its “advantages” but that’s not comparing it to other successful interview styles). It’s also important to note that those advocating for the REID techniques are police forces and other entities that actively use this. For instance, the people arguing against those that called out this technique for false confessions are literally the people who created the REID technique. Thus, it’s obvious to state that the less bias and actually research Critisms are more accurate in this instance. Therefore, their biases heavily influence how they will react to this technique.

I also have a very hard time to believe you’re a law student when in another comment you mention that “false confessions don’t happen” which all you need to take is one law class to know that this is false, and that people like Jeff (experiencing a withdrawal) are more likely to falsely confess. A study by Kassin and peers literally explain how the REID technique can lead to false accusations, meaning that no they do not only use this technique when they are “100% sure the suspect is guilty” so I have no clue where you got that statistic from. One quote even states that “in the United States, false confessions were a contributing factor in more than 20% of these cases”. As I stated above the US is know to either use the entire REID process or apply many of the steps to their interrogations. To the point that the tactic used in THIS video in which the police stated that they have evidence has literally been proven to heighten the chance of false allegations “Over the years, basic psychology research has shown that misinformation, as presented through confederates, witnesses, counterfeit test results, bogus norms, or false physiological feedback, can substantially alter people's visual perceptions, beliefs, memories for experienced and observed events, and behaviours.”. The article by Kassin et al is called: Interviewing suspects: Practice, science, and future directions. If you want to look into it. So before you want to comment support for the tactics used under multiple comments maybe make sure to research the many criticisms of these types of interrogations.

@Samantha : Who said I’m talking about US? We don’t do that here.

@Samantha : Who said I’m talking about US? We don’t do that here.

@Só Léo Exactly. That’s why law doesn’t care about ethics. It is subjective and law cares about facts

@Só Léo Exactly. That’s why law doesn’t care about ethics. It is subjective and law cares about facts

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Didn't say it was illegal, i said it was immoral. Ethics are separate from laws, sadly.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Didn't say it was illegal, i said it was immoral. Ethics are separate from laws, sadly.

@Samantha : Samantha I am a law major. I work with this every. single. day. Reid is only used when the ineterrogator is 100% sure that the subject is guilty. If there is an OUNCE of uncertainity şt won’t be used because it may very well produce false confessions and we often object to that. Is it completely ethical? Of course not but in reality most things aren’t anyway.

@Só Léo Taking drugs were his free will too. Laws don’t care about withdrawals.

@Só Léo Taking drugs were his free will too. Laws don’t care about withdrawals.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun All because all interviews go like this doesn’t mean they’re ethical. They use the REID technique which if you take one criminology class it’s one of the most unethical and most called out interviewing styles. So I get you’re a boot licker, but maybe look into this more before commenting on multiple comments defending this terrible process.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun The choice was between talking against his best interest and will, or suffering more through withdrawal, assuming he wanted the sugar to deal with the withdrawal. That isn't a free choice man.

@Martin Svoboda Well, actually no. He asked for a lawyer with his free will, and then changed his mind with his free will. Which is completely in his rights.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun This is absurd. His agency was at the level of a guy you smash with his own hand and scream "why are you hitting yourself" at him. You can say that he expressed his will freely as much as you want to, it doesn't make it so.

@Martin Svoboda He changed his mind about the lawyer. It is his right to do so.

@Martin Svoboda He changed his mind about the lawyer. It is his right to do so.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun Egg and Chicken. They refused to stop talking to him and getting him lawyer, so he at least got Coke from it. And I literally care 0 % if what they do is legal. It is obvious what it is morally and that they deny him what he has right for and manipulate him to "oficially" be in right to do so.

@Martin Svoboda Hours? He asked for a lawyer in one session and it was terminated right after he asked for a lawyer as it should. Then he changed his mind, got a deal with cops and went into another interview. There are zero violations on this case. If there were JCS would’ve mention it.

@Barış Doğukan Karakoyun They deny him a lawyer for hours after he repeatedly pleads for them - that is the biggest possible violation of this procedure that can be done.

@mikel1998100 No one’s using his addiction, they are literally following the procedure every single interview follows.

@mikel1998100 No one’s using his addiction, they are literally following the procedure every single interview follows.

@IV X He is innocent until proven guilty

@IV X He is innocent until proven guilty

@IV X They didn't know he was guilty. They tried to trick him into prison using his withdrawals, that is highly unethical.

@IV X They didn't know he was guilty. They tried to trick him into prison using his withdrawals, that is highly unethical.

The armed robbery however... that is okay as long you are not the victim huh?

The armed robbery however... that is okay as long you are not the victim huh?


Even if he has a lot to learn, I believe Jeff can save the world.

Long ago, the four nations lived in harmony, then the police nation attacked

😭I just watched the finale before clicking on this video


Getting a junkie alone in a room for 5 hours to try and break him after he already asked for a lawyer..... what a bunch of snakes.

@Cashel to answer your other question I’ll just tl:dr it.

The aftermath was extreme chronic pain. It left me with serious nerve and muscle damage which means i will have to take meds for the rest of my life. It also turned me into a serious opiate addict, which to this day I still am.

@Cashel hey buddy! Don’t let my case worry you too much! According to my surgeon, what happened to me was the only time he’d ever seen it. He has preformed the Nuss Procedure hundreds of times over the years and had never had a bad outcome up until me. He referred to me as his “Glitch” lol. May I ask, why is it you want the surgery? Is it purely for cosmetic reasons? In my case i <b>HAD</b> to get it done as it was quite serious and causing me lots of pain and restricting my breathing. If I never got it, it could have possibly been life threatening as I grew older.

@Cashel hey buddy! Don’t let my case worry you too much! According to my surgeon, what happened to me was the only time he’d ever seen it. He has preformed the Nuss Procedure hundreds of times over the years and had never had a bad outcome up until me. He referred to me as his “Glitch” lol. May I ask, why is it you want the surgery? Is it purely for cosmetic reasons? In my case i *HAD* to get it done as it was quite serious and causing me lots of pain and restricting my breathing. If I never got it, it could have possibly been life threatening as I grew older.

@Brutus Hey man im 17 and considering getting the surgery, why was it bad for you? I'd appreciate any info on what the aftermath was like.

@Derrick Perez same, after he had asked several times for a lawyer

@Derrick Perez same, after he had asked several times for a lawyer

@JDC I did not say sugar and drugs are the same did I??? Please correct me if I did... I believe I said, sugar is also addictive and can cause harm to the body. That's all.

@Velma Ali It isn’t fair to compare sugar ‘addiction’ to that of drugs.

Look. Similar to oxygen and water you could say sugar (glucose) is physically addictive in the sense that if you tried to stop using it, your body would undergo biologic changes that would drive you to start "using" again. But this is more because you would die, than for any other reason.

In fact many addictive drugs take advantage of the biochemistry that is built around informing you of when you eat something tasty.

Your body/brain senses the levels of glucose in your blood/cells and can trigger your cravings accordingly. Glucose can trigger biochemical changes, and stimulate hormone and neurotransmitter release.

If you are saying excessive amounts of glucose can stimulate the same addictive cravings as other drugs, then yes. Glucose is tightly linked with craving and emitional ballance.

However if you are saying the molecule of glucose itself physically acts as a ligand co-opting the normal signaling pathways the way addictive drugs do, then you’d be wrong.

@JDC how is O2 addictive?<br>Too much O2 can be bad, but I just don't know how it is addictive 🤔

@JDC how is O2 addictive?
Too much O2 can be bad, but I just don't know how it is addictive 🤔

@Velma Ali sugar (glucose) is addictive as much as oxygen is addictive.

@Velma Ali sugar (glucose) is addictive as much as oxygen is addictive.

@Sophia Troanska I know your not directing this question at me but I’ve been clean for almost 4 years now and I’ve had the occasional dream and “triggers” I guess you would call them but all in all it give a me anxiety to think of my life before. My heart drops and it gets hard to breathe. It’s like I’m completely disgusted at the thought of going back to something I fought arm and limb to get out of

@JDC sugar is also addictive and cause a lot of health problems such as diabetes (the silent killer). Anything and everything should be done moderately or else even the harmless substances can become extremely harmful.

@parazjt how does it feel to be sober? Do you ever go through thoughts like, “I miss it” or “just this once” or “life is so grey without it.”

I feel that way on much lower scales but I seem to not break the cycle because those thoughts haunt me.

@Gutzz Gutzz the worst is when it’s not a physical addiction problem but a behavioral problem. The second I stopped having access to alcohol, I started binge eating. When I didn’t have access to food, I spent hours on my phone. No matter how many times I remove the addictive trigger, I find another. Which shows I’m the problem.

@Bacon Cheeseberg bruh cops will find any excuse to use against you

@Bacon Cheeseberg bruh cops will find any excuse to use against you

@Bacon Cheeseberg you missed the point completely there, buddy. i guess you've never been in such situation before. they take the most arbitrary stuff and turn it into an accusation of disrespect. For me, it was a small nervous laugh i let out because i had been confused and scared to have been detained. That was enough for a bored officer on a power trip to capitalize on. My veteran friend later told me that these army rejects had been acting like this since school. The best you can do is to stay quiet and not give them anything in these situations. But that;s something you can't know without experience.

@Luke Ellis
Yours is a lesson many have learned first hand, and if not first hand then from a friend or family member. The reason people have been burning down police stations is because a critical threshold has been reached, enough people have had enough. I think many more need to burn, and defunding.
I read cops are quitting in record numbers, and that made me so happy. Law enforcement is a tainted profession,  a totally corrupt culture and with it combined with so many Americans' hero worship, and with the fact we've hired waaaaay too many cops, that's where we are. With the exception of large metropolitan areas easily 3/4 of all cops could be let go and crime stats wouldn't change, and might even go down, seeing as how much crime cops are committing.

@JDC it might be (I'm definitely not an expert) but I'm talking abt stereotypical hard drugs

@Viktor Birkeland not true about sugar, in fact the whole ‘sugar rush’ thing has been proven to be a myth. It doesn’t work in the same way as drugs.

@Tyrone The lion and alcohol? When it’s arguably worse than the drugs you’ve mentioned.

@Tyrone The lion and alcohol? When it’s arguably worse than the drugs you’ve mentioned.

@JDC I meant hard drugs, like heroin or cocaine

@JDC I meant hard drugs, like heroin or cocaine

@Viktor Birkeland yeah, anything intoxicating is addictive. the clean & sober people chain smoking & chugging coffee like water. Everyone's got at least one thing that intoxicated them

Is it legal after someone asks for a lawyer, to just go on and on with questioning? Wondering how many times they have to ask, or demand a lawyer, and how many just give up

@Tropical Tan Everett lol!! I was about to say that!

@Tropical Tan Everett lol!! I was about to say that!

@Tyrone The lion thank you for you candour.  And thank you for you diplomacy, responding to someone who is clearly an emotionally immature d-bag.

@Luke Ellis so sorry to hear that man. If you’re looking for someone to talk to (I definitely am), my insta is @asap_slams . Would mean a lot.

@Nate There's a lot of kinds of addictions. Beginning with you addicted to raise your voice in topics you don't understand (and not even trying to understand).

@Jess Hazen Benzos are rly bad to come off heavy addiction but after 2 months you dont give a shit about them anymore...opiates always haunt you..always want that high

@Nate  At least I don't think I'm better than everyone else.

@Nate  At least I don't think I'm better than everyone else.

Addiction to drugs can happen to anyone. Whether it starts from a prescription, surgery table, trying out something new, or even at a party. How do you think people get addicted to alcohol? Most of the celebrations involve alcohol, isn't that having fun? My first time trying alcohol was at a Thanksgiving dinner, and boy did I like it... My friends love smoking marijuana, but that shit makes me sick. I guess not everything is for everyone, it depends on the environment and the people you grow up with. Honestly you just have to be smart. You can go to a party and do drugs once in a while, but it's up to you to keep doing it or not.

That's what the fucking "Justice" system is

That's what the fucking "Justice" system is

@Mandy Kitson  He probably can't spell empathy without spellcheck doing it for him.

@Mandy Kitson  He probably can't spell empathy without spellcheck doing it for him.

@Nate So... you  have no empathy for others ?

@Nate So... you  have no empathy for others ?

@Nate Lol Then take care of yourself and avoid surgery and chronic illness. The first cases of Oxycontin abuses started as a prescription by doctors.

@Fun gun I hear people say benzodiazepines are awful to withdraw from and I have done it no problem numerous times maybe cuz I took so many opiates along with it but I didn’t have any withdraws from that either so idk 🤷♀

@Nate stay off the surgery table Nate. Doctors makes more addicts than rock n roll

@Nate stay off the surgery table Nate. Doctors makes more addicts than rock n roll

@Nate you saying "I wont never do drugs" is a double negative. therefore what you actually just said is "I will do drugs" LMAOO

@Luke Ellis nuss procedure, I had it done 6ish years ago when I was 14. Fucking ruined my life.

@Nate let me explain how drugs work.
People take them as an escape, NOT an exuse. If you have a terrible life, (let's say your mother just died for example). And a drug that allows you to have happiness or just forget your pain people will take it. Even something as simple as a pharmacy disputed pain killer can give an escape to many life problems. no junkie says "I take drugs for fun." That's no junkie, that's a fucking idiot.
A good quote is "drugs are a junkies food, try living without food for even a day. Food isn't a want, it's a need. Just like how drugs are a need for a junkie."

So before you say these people with a addiction are wrong for even having having an addiction.

I get it, these people aren't perfect. But neither are you.

@Luke Ellis But what was the crime that happened at the crime scene?

@Luke Ellis But what was the crime that happened at the crime scene?

@Nate yeah, mocking disease makes you very smart.

@Nate yeah, mocking disease makes you very smart.

@Nate Yes, everyone should feel sorry for addicts because they're in a cycle of hell caused by mental illness. Hope for yourself that nothing bad ever happens in your life that gets you caught into addiction.

Must of sucked I was put in isolation by a cop for three days while I withdrawed from the opiates I was on from a major surgery. The only evidence they had is that I rode past the crime scene   a day after it was committed on my dirt bike. It was a remote area and the camera was setup to catch people dumping. I just recently had a large metal bar placed underneath my rib cage to push my ribs and sternum outwards. Imagine the pain of braces but its in your chest and slowly cracking your ribs. Plus when coming off the opiates the pain gets way worse you cant lay down and put pressure on it, So i stood the whole time and they wouldn't turn the lights off or give me reading material. I was an 18 year old kid and when the same cop came to take me out three days later he said he did it because I disrespected him. And that he had no intention of actually further pursuing charges. So I spent three days in isolation with a loon who kept flooding his toilet and throwing his shit and screaming. And they wouldn't let me sleep or read or give me anything to sit on not even a gym mat. All because I was disrespectful to a certain police officer and all I did was refuse to speak to him. when he kept pushing me and started yelling at me he grabbed my bottle of gatorade he let me bring in and threw it at the wall behind my head and told me I was going to jail.

@Fun gun benzo w/d can be more dangerous, but heroin w/d is honestly something I wouldn't even wish on my worst enemy.

@Gutzz Gutzz yeah the way he kept rubbing his feet n shit too, been there smh. Proud of him for milking them for cokes while going thru that, that couldn’t been easy

Yeah you can tell he was withdrawing hard after the 5 hrs went by.  He had bad restless legs and couldnt sit still. Ive been through it numeorus times.


"Where do you usually get your methadone?"

"I don't get it. I get heroin." nonchalantly opens coke with teeth

"Where do you usually get your methadone?"

"I don't get it. I get heroin." *nonchalantly opens coke with teeth*

@doubleffect but the pharmacuetical companies don't ever want to lose money.. they got sewed out of billions

@doubleffect yeah that's true.. in the 90s and early 2000s they were pushing oxycontin on people who came in for a headache. Anything , someone's finger got a paper cut , here's oxy, and pharma companies said it wasn't addictive bc it's was made from thebaine and didn't possess morphine .. they were pushing it on everyone. My dad died this way. You're absolutely right. I just forgot to mention that. Thanks for pointing that out

@Randy Butterson Thats not necessarily true. Many times using for so many years just desensitizes you to things. If you drive a car every day, you're not going to think too much about how you turn the key to turn it on. You know the risks of crashes and death, and some drive more recklessly than others, but ultimately you still drive (most people at least).

Same with addiction. Things just become the norm, and they no longer have the impact they would for others. Not really about caring about destruction or addiction, though that certainly happens, its just human nature to adapt and adjust to the environment and desensitize itself to stimuli. People who go to NA and who've been clean for years can still talk very casually about their use. Thats been my experience at least. They obviously care about what it did to their lives, but the way they see things is just different than people who haven't been addicted. When its your life everyday, its no longer something special, which is kinda the core of how addiction forms, isn't it?

Methadone clinics you can get those for free and if you take a benzo shortly after it’s as high as you can get and you’re in the faded stage for hours.

That’s what my pastor said.

@jonbalderh bro that's kinda part of addiction

Obviously he's had a bit of experience opening cabs with his teeth! Evolution!

@Jacob Ball And I thought the strict laws came from pharmaceutical companies shoveling opioids left and right to people who didn't need them saying that they aren't really addictive if you've got a prescription and the  situation got so out of control, it was impossible any more to keep feeding people the story of businessmen who care for their well-being. I mean, obviously they took it to the other extreme.

@Torey Jones it's also the greatest high ever. Like better than your kids being born every time you do it type good. That's what makes it so bad.

@Blake R only you know the truth..the others"heroin=death"

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@Torey Jones Casual drug users do exist.  For every single drug.  You just don't hear about them cause unlike Jeff, they can keep their shit together.

@Torey Jones lots of people do heroine casually, actually. I've known a lot. Some devolved into addiction and some never did. Some stopped using casually and some still do every once in a while 20 years later.

@Torey Jones i was talking about how a long time addict knows what they are doing but like i said before

@Torey Jones ^ that matches what I've seen

Nobody decides 'I'm gonna do heroin' casually. You have to be hurting so much that you'd rather be dead anyway. At that point you give up on reality, and you just spend the rest of it fading away until you're gone.

@jonbalderh  most addicts understand they just don’t care or are too addicted

his cavalier attitude to his addiction and how he seems so aware that it's destroying his life is honestly chilling


very obvious that they were trying to get him go to jail.  He asked for a lawyer and the lawyer never arrived, what a way to violate your rights.  GOOD JOB JEFF.


definitive proof that 'country and 'uneducated' does NOT equal 'stupid'


“You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand this?” *remains silent

“You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand this?” *remains silent

im laughing too much I'm already crying.

im laughing too much I'm already crying.

Was waiting for the detective to say ''gonna take that as a yes''.

Was waiting for the detective to say ''gonna take that as a yes''.

@Paul Colbourne So then if they REALLY need that confession, they bring in a Public Pretender,  he has you answer to some trumped up questions, they still smoke your boots in court. Unless you have money, to keep an attorney of your choosing on retainer, you ARE going to lose 99.5% of the time in one way or the other. The system is rigged.

Yup, tells him to remain silent so he is...LOL

Yup, tells him to remain silent so he is...LOL

@Rogue Mentality That sounds dangerously close to SovCit bullshit...

@Rogue Mentality That sounds dangerously close to SovCit bullshit...

I know right, that was really frickin funny

I know right, that was really frickin funny

what happens if you say no i wonder, and just pretend you have no idea what they are saying

what happens if you say no i wonder, and just pretend you have no idea what they are saying

@Rogue Mentality then that makes sense because by responding to the question he admits to agreeing to talking and he doesn't want to talk so he wont respond if it means getting a lesser sentence

@Rogue Mentality that's not what the word means and that's not what's going on  hahaha.<br>Keep sovcit nonsense to yourself.  It's not real.

@Rogue Mentality that's not what the word means and that's not what's going on  hahaha.
Keep sovcit nonsense to yourself.  It's not real.

Khajiit Hadwares this is inherently false. The word “understand” means “comprehend.” I can understand loads of things without conceding authority to them.

@Paul Colbourne No. Not even kinda sorta. He does not have to acknowledge his understanding of anything. And whether you do or not is immaterial. The fact is, the first cop stopped, but then another came in and reread him his rights and continued to ask him questions. They do not stop just because you say you aren't speaking until they get you an attorney. They didn't here and they didn't honor his request for an attorney either. It was at that time that he should have called their bluff. And that is what he did.

They do not give 2 shits about right or wrong, truth or lies or even justice. So what makes you think that they give a damn about honoring your civil rights? They don't and they didn't here either. The reason? They were trying to coerce a confession out of him because they didn't have shit on him. If they did have the evidence they needed, then they would not have put their case in jeopardy by not honoring his request for an attorney. In other words, they had no case and he knew it.

@Tiger I. F. R. Tiger What?? Since when Scoobie? You can literally say nothing and it would still count as a God given right. Our civil liberties are not things government allows us to have. They are a check on the government's power. What if he really didn't understand those rights? Does he give them up by remaining silent? No, of coarse not. The ONLY way he can lose those rights is if he talks. Although acknowledging his understanding of his rights he isn't giving them up in that instance either, actually remaining silent is not exactly the wrong thing to do. The fact is, he did ask for an attorney. Just because they reread him his rights everytime they came back into the room, his initial request for an attorney didn't go away just because they left the room. How many times did the detective say "why should I give you anything if you won't talk to me?" The fact is I would have said  "I requested an attorney before I would speak to you. Since you have refused to provide one, why the fuck should I tell you anything simply because you felt like violating my civil rights?" The fact is, the first detective actually used the words "You have handcuffed me, I can't talk to you about it." Fucking pathetic. The fact is, he was smarter than all those cops put together. If they actually had the evidence they needed, why are they even bothering with the interrogation to begin with? Being released 12 hours later is a pretty good indication they didn't have what they needed. So, he was either being cut loose, or they were hoping he would do something stupid to get rearrested. Either way, they could have held him for 72 hours but didn't.

From watching so many police shows, I have seen the majority of criminals actually convict themselves when the police only have circumstantial evidence that would not hold up in court.

@EGstill85 i didn't mention him a sovereign citizen. this thread headed that way and it annoyed me. 2. what i am most interested in is what Jeff himself actually thinks and his perception of his place with regards to him knowing his own innocence or guilt. the gap between the legal process and what jeffster did or didn't do and thence how he sits with regards to his rights. rights he may not have held onto himself. it seems significant to me to be clear on everybody's level of corruption. we all being sovereign citizens. nobody even mentions that. and im astonished. irrespective of morality and all that  3. his junkieness and being vulnerable to manipulation? the policeman may not see that as inappropriate and at the end of the day he's the one we're paying and training to decide for us and jeff. and again let's not ignore how jeff too made choices long before this and surely we must have expectations of him also even if he's not on the payroll so to speak . isn't this kinda a basic part of the social contract? whether jeff would admit a gap in his behaviour and his expectations is up to him and the true silence we're all dancing around. when i'm Queen of the World i'd feel much happier listening to him mewl - if he chose to - about his junkie problems  after all of this has been run through first. or has he brought a note from mama explaining why we hold the police guy to account but not jeff? then we can wheel out our compassion.

@David Parry is that what Jim Can't Swim means?

@David Parry is that what Jim Can't Swim means?

@peteywarren0829 To "understand" someone means to give validation.
To believe in a statement coming from a person? Means to accept its authority over.
I say this and you do as I say, you understand? Yes. -Then do it!  You hear me? Yes. -Then doit.
Dynamic: follower/submissive (sub=under) vs author-rite = writter of laws, auto-self pathtake (psych=self-> path/rule/law) auto-graph -> signature -> self-consent. Auto=self (own path/his way/law) : a state of group controlled by one person (self) with absolute power.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocracy ex: autonomous - having the freedom to govern itself or control its own affairs. having the freedom to act independently. (autonomou=self-control)

@EGstill85 i really appreciate your having taken your time replying with detail as you have. please accept my thank you . i really love when people are fully engaged. forgive me if that sounds patronising or off key in any way.
i suspect that you and i don't disagree . i didn't express myself well and was reacting (one of my specialties). i apologise for my  righteousness and fully understand that i am not Queen of the World (though god knows i should be... wish i was, and you can have a turn too).
 i wasn't considering the distinction you make between the professional position of one and the ... civilian ? position of the other. i do know how it is the letter of the law as i've heard say and in practice these specifics count. if i understand you properly.and i'm not sure what i think about making that distinction.
because for me? two people. come together. to refuse to take part seems silly to me. the excercise of personal sovereignty does not seem to me to be manifest in any way in the guy's behaviour, in anything about staying silent or not in this context.
i think it's silly to forge your sovereignty, your sense of your own value on playing games with police people. i think that is the other half of police corruption. those who want to play play. if i had to negotiate such childishness on a daily, hourly basis? i'd probably turn bad somehow and find myself trampling all over someone's sovereignty in filthy boots.
are we speaking about the same thing? do i understand your point?
does that opinion of mine achieve anything for me if i am in the position of having to account for myself as in this video? i wouldn't assume so. i'll be the one locked up in the basement forgotten and condemned and i'll still not know what i'm being accused of probably. we are all good enough. you and i. special to those who love us and sovereign most importantly to and in ourselves. on my day of being Queen of the World? everyone would know that so well they would speak when they are spoken to. and take part. i respect the law. but you know. people. i like people to tell me who they are. i like them to take their turn, as their due. regardless of whether their head will get chopped off. and how often is that the gauntlet anyway? how about a simple, 'yes i killed a man and buried him under the new pool' ? thats all.

due process - exclusion doesn't work in an interaction between two people. that's my line.
(you must stop discrediting my intelligence at the start. i must stop getting righteous)
so where do our different approaches meet i wonder.

Nick H Ah i found the comment people said i copied lol. My bad. Parallel thinking.

Nick H Ah i found the comment people said i copied lol. My bad. Parallel thinking.

Lol he played it PERFECTLY. When they asked he said NO, and then the 2nd time said yes. Since he said yes second, it can be argued the second time he was reinforcing that he didn’t understand. Dude was on point

Now that’s what I call a pro gamer move right there

Now that’s what I call a pro gamer move right there

@Rogue Mentality Are you a lawyer? What happens if someone doesn't answer they understand if they are read their Miranda Rights? Have the police, if they feel he could be reasonably sure he probably understood his rights, or that knowing that he can hear and understand English done enough? I just never thought of someone doing that! Sheltered I know

@Martha belle Yeah.... see how far that gets you in a court of law. Good luck with that.

@Martha belle Yeah.... see how far that gets you in a court of law. Good luck with that.

@Random User yes he is right. Here's the proof https://thelawdictionary.org/understanding/

@Random User yes he is right. Here's the proof https://thelawdictionary.org/understanding/

FFS!!

I have always wandered why the police have to ask 'do you understand' before continuing. I mean what is there that is so hard to understand?! But reading through some of these comments, it is clear to me that plenty of people simply DON'T understand!!!

@Kazuya Your statement:
'by talking he is giving up his right to remain silent'

NO! He doesn't give up his right to remain silent be talking! You imply that by saying something he then has no right to remain silent.

 He can chose what questions he wants to answer.

@wtf is wrong with you Hey dude, I'm sure you know but thought I'd point out for others. Your statement:

' in the United States of America we have the right to remain silent...'

This also applies to many other countries and actually originated in England in the late 1600's.
I don't know how many countries but I know it applies to ~26 in the Commonwealth.

Yes, I thought he was going to stay silent for the rest of the video, would have been much more funny lol

Yes, I thought he was going to stay silent for the rest of the video, would have been much more funny lol

I just had to be the 100th comment ha ha! 😝 I do want a coke now though. 🤦♂

I just had to be the 100th comment ha ha! 😝 I do want a coke now though. 🤦♂

just like jack reacher. why dont the police understand? oh. my bad. we all know how the police are. next time ask for a beer if tjey want to talk. id talk all about sports.

@Paul Colbourne Actually, after you request an attorney to be present, from then on your responses are no longer admissible in court and police must stop asking.  (Davis vs. US, 512 U.S. 453 (1994).  From the opinion: "A suspect is entitled to the assistance of counsel during custodial interrogation even though the Constitution does not provide for such assistance. Id., at 469-473. If the suspect invokes that right at any time, the police must immediately cease questioning him until an attorney is present. ")

@Rogue Mentality uh no. Hes literally asking if he can understand in reference to his rights

@Rogue Mentality uh no. Hes literally asking if he can understand in reference to his rights

The best understand of his rights is using them

The best understand of his rights is using them

If I'm ever in that situation I'm pulling a Jeff

If I'm ever in that situation I'm pulling a Jeff

@Rogue Mentality Exactly...its the same in courts where they ask if you understand when they slap a fine or sentence on you. Much of the time you can either remain silent or say you do not understand. IT binds them up, and is one of the only defenses people have against ths tyrannical system.

Nick H I don't know what it's like in the US, but in Germany there actually are a couple question you HAVE to answer in an interrogation. They're only about identifying you and I think about your rights, too. Maybe in the US you're required to answer the question about the Miranda rights, too.

@Random User Have you ever wondered why legalese even exist?

@Random User Have you ever wondered why legalese even exist?

@Kazuya he can invoke his right to be silent at anytime. But not the 5th amendment.

@Kazuya he can invoke his right to be silent at anytime. But not the 5th amendment.

@Wax Me Georgia, USA. Not the country of Georgia

@Wax Me Georgia, USA. Not the country of Georgia

Do as him. The justice system only wants to ruin your life and make more fucking money.

Do as him. The justice system only wants to ruin your life and make more fucking money.

Rogue Mentality calm down it’s just a joke

Rogue Mentality calm down it’s just a joke

He could remain in jail longer if he doesnt say yes or no. They can't interrogate him and to a judge and DA, his not acknowledging the Miranda points to more guilty than innocent.

That’s what I was just thinking and so I came to the comments

That’s what I was just thinking and so I came to the comments

@Rogue Mentality that's not how that works

@Rogue Mentality that's not how that works

i thought this was the legend of my name is jeff

i thought this was the legend of my name is jeff

@peteywarren0829 Actually, he is right. Look up legalese

@peteywarren0829 Actually, he is right. Look up legalese

@Rogue Mentality He also said "comprehend" which means understand as we know it. He could have answered yes to that, but chose to exercise his right to remain silent it seems.

Rogue Mentality No. understand means “comprehend” in every sense that the word is used.

Rogue Mentality No. understand means “comprehend” in every sense that the word is used.

the interrogator is pretty bad in the beggining 🤣

the interrogator is pretty bad in the beggining 🤣

@David Parry this is a sad truth that I've suffered my own personal consequences from. Thank you for bringing awareness, @David Parry, to this lesser known group of sufferers at the police's hands. we need it especially now, when designer label victim groups are trying to claim a monopoly on the market

@Rach Bell um, no its not at all crooked, its his right. You should never speak if youre arrested.

@Rach Bell um, no its not at all crooked, its his right. You should never speak if youre arrested.

@wtf is wrong with you Only up to a point though. They are not supposed to do an actual interrogation once you lawyer up, or the lawyer when s/he shows could potentially get stuff thrown out at hearing. Even the charges,  depending how serious they are.

Rach Bell I’m having a hard time following your logic. Comparing Jeff’s manner of conduct with that of the interviewing detective in the realm of professional integrity is an absolutely invalid and baseless argument. The reasoning for this seems so fundamentally obvious, it feels silly needing to explain. Nevertheless, consider the following; the detective’s moral and professional ethics can absolutely be argued as being either “by the book” or crooked due to the that fact interrogation of suspects is part of the job he willingly signed up to do, receives a salary for carrying out, and needed to get certified
to carry out via testing his comprehension of mandatory training educating him on which tactics of interrogation he is allowed to employ in order to obtain a confession and those which are either banned within his profession or simply illegal. Jeff however, is not a professional police detainee. He has been arrested and so his willingness (or rather obvious lack thereof) to be there getting interrogated is totally irrelevant. He is not being payed for his time (again should be obvious). He has been through the system before and understands police are legally allowed to mislead him into self incrimination by lying when saying things such as, “his situation looks bleak, so he might as well talk. If he talks now, they can put in a good word with the prosecutor. They have all the evidence they need to bring charges this second, they’re only sitting speaking with him in order to allow his side of the story to be heard...).
Now, hopefully by now you can understand my confusion in your comment labeling a civilian’s actions during police interrogation as crooked since he is not there by choice, nor is do the answers or way in which he responds subject to “crooked/straight” analysis as they would be if him being there was a part of his chosen career with explicit rules of conduct such as the police officers.
Even if we were to judge his behavior on a scale of perceived morality more or less to be acceptable or abhorrent within the sphere of public judgement, I simply do not understand what he did that made you feel as though he crossed a line when interacting with the several detectives? Is it simply a matter of feeling bitter that someone you perceive to be a dredge on the welfare of society had the ability to understand that based on his prior convictions, the police would not be wasting their time questioning him to this extent if they truly had strong evidence as they implicitly told him time after time? That based on this understanding, he knew if they would try to hold him as long as legally (or longer) possible hoping that the withdrawal effects of his addiction would lead him to admit to anything just so he could get out of that holding cell? Or is it that in our justice system even a junkie is afforded the same rights as you, and despite the police praying upon the exploitation of his disease to pry out a confession, he was able to hold out and eventually get released with no charges pending against him?
The last thing I want to know is how does any of this make him a sovereign citizen? He wasn’t some guy running up on police during a traffic stop shoving a camera in their face telling them how they are going against the constitution by doing a,b, or c...In fact he wanted as little to do with police as humanly possible. And none of the comments I’ve read on here which you felt inclined to label sov citzns seemed to be hell bent on pointing out police corruption or even abuse of power, they simply enjoyed seeing that even the most vulnerable population in our society have the power to not simply be helplessly thrown into prison without due process. Isn’t that democracy at work? Isn’t that what separates us from authoritarian governments who can imprison and kill their populations at anytime, without any reason, for any perceived offense? Seems to me that if you are upset seeing our laws played out in real time due to the less powerful ending up free, it is you who wishes to disconnect yourself from our country, declaring yourself a sovereign nation of one where it’s only your voice that counts.

I have absolutely no love for Billy Bob Thornton’s character in that movie.  I see him as a villain.

I have absolutely no love for Billy Bob Thornton’s character in that movie.  I see him as a villain.

@Rogue Mentality they want him to know that by talking he is giving up his right to remain silent.  But really they legally have to say that and then they try to trick him into thinking he needs to talk his way out of it

Smartest interrogated move you could make. "You look like the prick", haha, 2nd and 5th Amendment in perfect synergy

Smartest interrogated move you could make. "You look like the prick", haha, 2nd and 5th Amendment in perfect synergy

@Dr. Pepper hey! I've got a birth certificate you know 🤭

@Dr. Pepper hey! I've got a birth certificate you know 🤭

@Constance Jones and Jeff not speaking isn't just as crooked?

@Constance Jones and Jeff not speaking isn't just as crooked?

@jksemtex but he has just prostituted the very rights he up until this moment has taken as his due. you can't have it both ways. unless you brought a note from your mama.

@Rogue Mentality the agreement was made way before Jeff got to this interview. You can't rage quit your individual sovereignty just because things aren't going your way and think that represents the exercise of personal power.

@Synchro Metanom Learning about law from sovereign citizen videos on YouTube will only fill your head with junk...... Well put. Bravo. I was getting so frustrated with this thread until you spoke. Thank you for the sweet relief.

@Rogue Mentality The word "understand" just means that you comprehend what the officer is saying to you. That's it!

@Rogue Mentality The word "understand" just means that you comprehend what the officer is saying to you. That's it!

Rogue Mentality thank you I was just going to say the same you saved me sometime! 😁

Rogue Mentality thank you I was just going to say the same you saved me sometime! 😁

@Rogue Mentality There is a reason they need a yes or no and that is Miranda v. Arizona. They need his understanding before interrogating him. He will still be charged and possibly found guilty (held "responsible"?) regardless of his answer to this question.

@Rogue Mentality in the United States of America we have the right to remain silent, if you don't remain silent that's on you. It's not the "right to not be asked questions" They can ask you all the questions they want but we have the right to remain silent... do you understand that?

@Synchro Metanom Thank you for this wonderful explanation. Love to learn "on the spot". GREAT!!  :)

@Synchro Metanom Thank you for this wonderful explanation. Love to learn "on the spot". GREAT!!  :)

@Rogue Mentality   All those words and yet u didnt say anything

@Rogue Mentality   All those words and yet u didnt say anything

@Rogue Mentality in what alternate universe do you come from where a DA needs your permission to charge you with a crime?

I think this is genius. Seems like the cops can only repeat their yes or no question before starting to grill the suspect with questions involving the incident.

@Rogue Mentality doesn't have to understand if he's pleading the 5th

@Rogue Mentality doesn't have to understand if he's pleading the 5th


4:25
(Key word here: I think/I believe. This is all my opinion and how I interpret the two concepts <3333)
I disagree. There are hundreds of villains that people love and can relate to, even if they are supposed to be pure evil.
I think the distinction comes from the characters morality and ideals, and how they behave to achieve their goals.

And antihero and villain could behave similarly,  but the distinction can come form why they are behaving that way, or what they hope to achieve by behaving that way.

Good villains has understandable motives and a fan can empathize with.

I think the main distinction between an Antihero and Villain is the severity of their negative traits/behavior and how much it relates to their motive/goal.
For example: A Villain will want to save the earth and bring true peace though genocide and mass extinction of the human race, while an Antihero might want to save the earth through forcing their opinions into the world, even if it means eliminating those who cross them.


Man, he really called their bluffs like a boss.

Our society has failed people like this guy in the backwards way we handle drug addiction.


I'm so sorry that someone endured an armed robbery. And I'm sorry this guy's a junkie. But bravo, man. This shit was funny to watch.

"Yeah, you look like the prick..." That broke me. Lolol

@C Z he's now clean from heroin and has a YouTube channel. He's pretty entertaining.

I know right? This guy's nothing short of a legend. I'd only imagine how funny he'd be if he wasn't under pressure or going through heroin withdrawal

It's just funny to me how he doesn't give a shit about anything the guy says


It's funny how laughably easy it is to break their whole strategy by just telling them you know what's up. Like, they know what they're trying to do, and if you just indicate that you also know what they're trying to do, they can do jack shit. They'll ask these questions intended to make you immediately respond in defense, or say things like "we already have so much evidence." When you don't fall for their psychological tricks, the jig is up.
I also love how once the guy mentioned "I only came back up here for a coke," the cop gets angry, so he tries to take the coke after. Then when the guy says "I can't finish that?" he just says, without actually saying it, "really? you're gonna be petty enough to take the last 1/3rd of a can of coke?" and that just shatters the rest of the cop's attack.

It's funny how laughably easy it is to break their whole strategy by just telling them you know what's up. Like, they know what they're trying to do, and if you just indicate that you also know what they're trying to do, they can do jack shit. They'll ask these questions intended to make you immediately respond in defense, or say things like "we already have so much evidence." When you don't fall for their psychological tricks, the jig is up.
I also love how once the guy mentioned "I only came back up here for a coke," the cop gets *angry,* so he tries to take the coke after. Then when the guy says "I can't finish that?" he just says, without actually saying it, "really? you're gonna be petty enough to take the last 1/3rd of a can of coke?" and that just shatters the rest of the cop's attack.

@Zombie Boy What world am I passively wishing for, and how is what I said the opposite of what you said?

@Juh Quite the opposite actually. If you turn on a computer screen, it would appear <b>nobody</b> loves the police. I'm truly afraid of the world that people like you are passively wishing for.

@Juh Quite the opposite actually. If you turn on a computer screen, it would appear *nobody* loves the police. I'm truly afraid of the world that people like you are passively wishing for.

Their are scientific reasons for Jeff's actions; The dopamine sugar rush from the coke, stops the craving for heroin, if only for a few seconds...

The cop didn’t have to let him finish it. So your CoPs ArE DuMB anD BaD rant is pointless. People have a job to do and junkies have drugs to do cant have one without the other.

it's easier said than done tho, even if you understand, it is not reasonable that you end up badly because the police put a lot of pressure on you.


Guys asks for a lawyer and yet 5 hours later, he’s still sitting in interrogation, being asked questions. This is how good cases go bad. This is why scumbags walk away free as a bird after doing bad shit. Shoddy police work.

He was right they just want confession. Easier to get it from a junkie than actual suspect


I hope Jeff finds a good life to live.  He's a smart guy.


there's cicadas chirping outside my window so Jeff's silence is COMEDY GOLD right now.


Never trust the cops and never talk to them. The guy is actually pretty smart.


He's a legend because he's doing what everyone should do which is shut up and not talk to the cops ever!


tbh when he first explained what happened I immediately believed him, sometimes you can just tell when someone is telling the truth.


This system is fucked. People like Jeff need help, not interrogations.


I wonder what he would have done with his life if he hadn’t gone down the wrong road? He seems like a clever dude.


this is one of my favorite interrogations. i love it so much, sometimes i watch it over and over again multiple times throughout the day. great work jcs! :)


I just barely discovered your channel and I’m hooked. You do an amazing job!


As far as my understanding of Miranda v US and relevant cases, this is totally ILLEGAL.
He asked for his lawyer, they had to stop right there, not wait a few hours and come back.
To make it worse, you know they were playing on the fact that he would be withdrawing, and hoped that it would exacerbate his willingness to comply
Totally illegal, unconstitutional.

Realistically I doubt Jeff could afford a lawyer, so they'd have to appoint one. That can take a while and in the meantime they were promising him soda so he'd keep talking. If he agreed to the interview, even if its just because he wanted soda, then they can try multiple times.


This was the best interview I've ever watched. Thank you


this explains the demise of my brother Jeff. Jeff finally overdosed in 2019, but like this Jeff, he was a regular on police blotters in multiple states.

the ultimate was in 2012 when he was arrested and underwent psychiatric care. the day after a psychiatrist told me he would be treated, he was released. the $100 i deposited at the jail for food and a blanket was given to Jeff. Jeff went and bought a bottle of Rum and drank himself unconscious.

9 years later and a dozen arrests in MD and Florida and my Brother is dead.

our system of justice lets criminals go and addicts simply fill up the arrest blotter to keep people busy.


I do love these videos. This one is a bit different for me, because I was actually addicted to heroin for 6 years also, and I've also been arrested for something I haven't done


This dude has the same presentation as audit the audit, both of which I love. Thanks for the awesome content.


He s doing everything right. It makes my day. :D


jeff saying that if they had anything they wouldnt be in that room is very very true. They may have some evidence but do not have enough evidence to ensure it is a 100% guilty charge. Jeff is smart.


You know what you do with drug addicts? You get them help, not lock them away. One results in high chance of positive outcome, while the other perpetuates the 'revolving door' analogy.


The good old criminal justice system, always targeting the poor and marginalized. Jeff got it down.


Im a recovering addict and my psyche and heart ache for this guy.  It,s hell!


The “all while going through the early stages of heroin withdrawal” I feel is such a bigger factor than lead on.  It would be so hard to keep composure in those days.


Cop:" I'm usually a prick."
Jeff: "You look like a prick."
Me: 😂


I like Jeff. Mostly because i just watched a video of cops trying to make innocent people confess.


I like how at the end you gave us a fairytale and the potential truth. Thank you for that. Without looking too much further into this, I'm going to take the narrative that he got clean.


"anything can and will be used against you in court"<br>jeff: oh sh-

"anything can and will be used against you in court"
jeff: oh sh-


Jeff is the smartest suspect in all of the JCS videos.


Before u even explained it i already felt sympathy when u said hes a heroin addict bc i am one aswell and i get why they rob and steal because the fear of withdrawal is so immense its unbearable. But i never did any of that so theres also a way without beeing a criminal but i know how easy it can happen to you.


The saddest part of your commentary… the addiction itself should shed light on his humanity.

Every drug addict you ever met is struggling, and I bet you everything I own they never said when they were a little boy or little girl - “when I grow up I want to be hooked on drugs or alcohol”…

Every fucking one of them is struggling, and nobody asked to be that way… they’re all sick and need help wether they know it or not.  And in the big picture - they’re sick- period


How did they keep questioning him after he ask3d for a lawyer?   Anything he said after the request would be inadmissable right?


My head started yo hurt when he said he was about to start getting withdrawals. Withdrawals are no joke.


Genuinely funny character! He even sounds like Billy Bob Thornton.


Cops can be real jerks or OK. One thing I know, if you've got a weapon in your hand, they think twice.


It might sound cheesy but I think we are all heading for either salvation or destruction!


11:15 if people just knew the info in the next 10 or so seconds. Absolutely true.


Jeff: anything I say can and will be used against me

Detective: yeah but anything you say..I can tell..your parole officer .that..you helped me out.

Jeff: that don't mean d*ck

LMAOOOOO


8:33 from that moment on, the cop is in the wrong.


" I want a lawyer " .....5 hours later he is still in that cell without a lawyer?


“When is this Coke gonna be here? Or is that just a fairy tale…?” 😂🤣


officer: do u understand the rights I've explained to you?
Jeff: quietly no
officer: what?
Jeff: yeah

officer: do u understand the rights I've explained to you?
Jeff: *quietly* no
officer: what?
Jeff: yeah


the “thanks for the coke” really did hit me hard


Dude was running through interigators. They probably called in some off duty cops


Jeff is smart .. He been through the system.


He was willing to give him a butterfinger only for a confession.... wow.


"You're playing the good cop"
"No, usually I'm the Prick."
"You look like a Prick".

GOLDEN

Also I LOVE Bad Santa!!! Such a good movie.


"You already read it to me (I'm gonna read it again), thanks for the coke (ur welcome)"......love this cat!


"I know you ain't got shit, you ain't never interviewed me this much" smart man.


"Only reason I came up here was to get a f*cking coke"

What a savage


How many times does he have to ask for a lawyer?


The most cunning and calculated people I ever met to this day were junkies.


He asked for a lawyer and they still try questioning him ....


drug addict for FOURTEEN YEARS and smarter than the cops 😂


Do not talk to police, as soon as they put cuffs on you, their job is done!


"But now you've handcuffed me and..." 8:58

That choice of words though...


Jeff must have watched a lot of the JCS videos.😂


It's like watching the real-life Early Kyler, geez.


"How about that butterfinger you promised?" <3


Jeff knows they are not his friend in this situation, he is beautiful.


"cause my buddies dogs goin' ape sh*t" funniest part


zuckerberg is a cop now? i swear the guy sitting bottom right frame is zuckerberg<br>jeff knew his shit.

zuckerberg is a cop now? i swear the guy sitting bottom right frame is zuckerberg
jeff knew his shit.


Kinda weird how this interrogation is just 15 minutes of this guy saying “my name is jeff”


I hope he goes clean and would have a good life.


“ the only reason I came here to get a coke”


This could very well be a advertisement for coke. “Coke, great alternative for coke”


"Where do you get your methadone?"

"I don't get it, I get heroin."


Interview should end the minute he asked for a lawyer


The legend of jeff? <br>...all jeffs are legends in and of themselves

The legend of jeff?
...all jeffs are legends in and of themselves


Why the cops get somewhat irritated when Jeff goes silent? I mean, they said he had the right to remain silent?😂


Jeff: Your Reid Technique skills have no power over me.


"that taste good?" " Mmhmmm". <b>shows him how good by chugging two more times</b>

"that taste good?" " Mmhmmm". *shows him how good by chugging two more times*


"Whaam baam, thank you for the coke put me back in the cell"😂😂😂


was a heroin addict for 5 years - all i know is this man is about to start kickinggggg, I can tell lol and hes just likeeee come on man, if u dont let me out of here for what i did not do im about to be sick as a dog and I can tell by his voice that he is still zooted


Whatever he did or not i feel very sorry for him..it could be right to help him first as his mind is in fog..so many ppl are involved in such shit..and they are so weak ..i wish more ppl can understand what a treak is it and how hard to get out of it..he might have different life..but again his mind is blind..

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My favorite part is "I've been arrested for the same bullshit before."

And "...or is that just a fairy tale."

I also think these cops get a little high off of arresting someone like jeff.


Where’s his lawyer?  He asked hours ago.

Where’s his lawyer?  He asked hours ago.


Most important thing. Remaining silent. Most people are uncomfortable with silence, but if ever anyone gets arrested, even if you know you are completely innocent... remain quiet. Do not try and "be helpful". Don't give in to that need to fill up an silent pause, no matter how long it stretches. Police think the worst of anyone in custody (they've seen the worst, so even good cops are like this and it's understandable). If "anything you say can and will be used against you", your best tactic is... Say. Nothing. Ever.


2 months after:<br>this guy got his face burnt with bleach and suddenly his skin turned white and he went crazy and then burns his eyelids and gashes his cheeks to make a smile, that's why he his name is jeff 😂

2 months after:
this guy got his face burnt with bleach and suddenly his skin turned white and he went crazy and then burns his eyelids and gashes his cheeks to make a smile, that's why he his name is jeff 😂


I'm so sorry but i like him i laughed so much watching this lmaoo he works for coca cold HAHAHAHA


I'm disappointed in the narration of this one.  The focus on his drug addiction and the strange anti hero tangent was far less interesting and relevant than an analysis of the interrogation from both sides of the table.  Missed opportunity to explore a failed interview and the effect on both Jeff and the officers.


"that doesn't...mean dick"...im crying lmao


I come back every now and again hoping to see Jeff in the comment section


Cop: Usually I'm the pr!ck

Jeff: yeah, you look like a pr!ck.

LMAO! GOLD


Y’all don’t even know if he did or didn’t commit it, what if the cop did have evidence


I've watched this video like 4 times lol


As a former heroin addict its always sad to see someone facing huge prison time for something they only probably did to get well. Im sure as a sober man, Jeff would never rob a store. This is why we need to rehabilite addicts, not punish them.

@PianoDisneygal10 im not saying he doesnt deserve punishment but there is a difference between rehabilitation and throwing someone in prison for 20 years

Armed robbery isn’t no big deal though. If he actually did that, and therefore put people at risk all for a high, he’d 110% deserve punishment.


I can only imagine what Jeff's teeth look like between the heroin and Coca-Cola addiction.


There's legend of Korra...
And then there's the legend of Jeff

There's legend of Korra...
And then there's the legend of *Jeff*


Jeff is a real one G street he may have a drug addiction but he knows his shit 🍺✊😎 where is the coca cola emoji 😅


This analysis is so far wide of the mark that it's silly. What are you talking about "glimmer of humanity" the man demonstrated more humanity than any other person in the footage.


" i want a lawyer" mannnnnnn he said it, so get him one. 1312


Jeff is a badass give this guy a fuckin award lmfao


Drug addicts aren't dumb they're sick it's completely different


This entire interview should’ve be the next Coke campaign.


I would obviously like him to get of the heroine! Other than that i really like this guy!!!


hear me out: i just wanna see christian bale act this scene out okay, itll be gold i swear


Billy bob thorton gotta play this guy in the movie version of jeff.


6'5??? bro could've played basketball instead of being an addict smh


wam bam, thanks for the coke, put me back in the cell 😂


Too much Joseph Campbell, and too little understanding.  The antihero is a good guy who uses the tactics of the bad guys usually against the even badder guys.  That's it.  There's no moral change, no redemption.


Where do you get your methadone from?

I don't...I get heroin.
🤣😆

Like duh man, did you expect me to ask you THE COP for heroin?


he was just there bcoz he knew he will get free coke lol


18 hours of withdrawal in a cell... Christ...poor guy


By far the weirdest Coke-a-Cola ad I have ever seen.


Wham bam thank you for the coke put me back in the cell🤣


Life in prison for Armed robbery ? I’m not trying to say I support robbery lol but doesn’t that seem a bit much ? Provided they don’t actually hurt anyone in the robbery


Man when Jeff said <br>" you look like a prick " I bet it was hard for the officers in the back NOT to piss themselves laughing. It was a nice, timely shot he took there.......ha

Man when Jeff said
" you look like a prick " I bet it was hard for the officers in the back NOT to piss themselves laughing. It was a nice, timely shot he took there.......ha

they programmed me to think of coke when i see santa

Sublime, bit of a double entendre, there. Jeff and Brad would have tied on a dinosaur together, I'm sure. RIP B. Nowell


"The only reason i got up here was to get an f'ing coke" this made me laugh so hard. I hope this dude is doing alright right now

@A A Bro it's a joke. The man went to rehab and now has a youtube channel he uploaded a vid saying that he is fine..

@NINETEEN answers please, how do you know

@I’m Irresponsible He uploaded to his youtube one day ago.

@NINETEEN I don't wanna believe you please tell me its a joke ;^;

@NINETEEN holdup what? you got a reliable source or just saw some headline


https://youtu.be/m0srs6NKm-s
Here's an update on Jeff and this exact interview incase anyone is interested wondering


This is why good defense attorneys are so important. I feel like they always get such a bad rap for having to defend the guilty, but people forget that they defend the innocent a lot of times too.

Well that baby killer monster of a woman had an excellent defense attorney and she got off not guilty on all charges.

"(...)but people forge that they defend the innocent a lot of times too." And that, precisely, is why the right to one is so important. I often hear people complain about defence attorneys in a manner that seems to equate being accused and being guilty way too often


"Do you understand the rights I have explained to you?"
"No!"
"Huh?
"Yeah-"

@SpadeOfAces man....  I love that scene in Daredevil

@Jack Kawf nah he was just fucking with the cop lol. He's got a good sense of humor

@Brannan Burdette it was more or less a joke

@Jack Kawf don’t think so. He’s purposely giving false answers to be able to fight it in court. In no way is he agreeing or disagreeing to anything. I’ve done this exact thing when being interrogated by cops. If you give the multiple mixed answers it always gives you an out and then they can’t use it so reliably in court against you. I can easily say no then they say huh? Then I say yea as in, what? And not in yea I understand.

In an odd way I understand that.... At first he initially was like "wait, no! Fuck this!" Then just as quickly his mind went to "ah fuck it...yeah, whatever."


you know they specifically kept him there as long as possible hoping that his withdrawals will become unbearable and, due to irritability and discomfort, lead him to say something that they can use for their case...apparently thats considered to be justice.

@cabadman1 I don't understand why people can't want their own country to be better when there are problems. What's wrong with admitting we're far from perfect?

@Mirror16  not just america thats torture 101 everyone whose jobe is tro extract info will have to do something to ~get~ info, threats, weaknesses, physical assault anyghing goes as long as the extractor gets the info

Of course Jeff knows that if he craps on the floor they'll take him out <br>of there. He's been through it a hundred times before

Of course Jeff knows that if he craps on the floor they'll take him out
of there. He's been through it a hundred times before


Officer:  You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand?

Jeff: ........silent......

Me: yep,  I'm pretty sure he understands.

For a cop he sure was not too smart on that one 😂.

@WOOSH_POLICE your name concerns me...

but yeah, he knows how it works, and taunts the police while giving them nothing; trying to trick them into doing something drastic so he can claim he was mistreated by the police when it comes to court.

Doublechindoge 7 that’s my exact thought. I was thinking this Jeff guy is very smart.

Pretty sure you know this and were just joking, but just in case you weren't, they need a definite yes otherwise lawyers will come up with whatever excuse to invalidate anything they say in the interrogation and could get away with it.


Officer:"  There's only a couple of pieces of evidence I'm missing." <br>Jeff:  'Name them"

Officer:"  There's only a couple of pieces of evidence I'm missing."
Jeff:  'Name them"

@Viviv "Oh yeah, you're a cop? Name every piece of evidence"

Jeff be like "name every single piece of evidence"


Correct me if im wrong but isnt it illegal to try to keep getting someone to talk AFTER they asked for a lawyer?

Not when they initiate it by agreeing to talk for a coke and a butterfinger 😁


Stone cold is the greatest anti hero ever


I love how the detective says "convince me" - I don't have to convince you of anything, you are not the judge nor my jury of peers. I will not provide speak until my lawyer is present. Thank you for the coke

@XxDonLoboxX catch a break on something you haven't actually done... while you're already in the interrogation room? How does that work chief?

@XxDonLoboxX Maybe if the State would help him with his addiction he could straighten his life up, but alas they would prefer him and many others to rot in a cell than help them with their drug addiction.

So many big men talking. At the end of the day, though, those legs will be trembling hoping to catch a break. This is a legit hardened criminal. Stop pretending.

@Anthony G It doesn't matter, he's still an American citizen who's due his rights, and he chose to exercise them, and he did so damn-near flawlessly (seeing as he was released shortly after)
If you're an American citizen, you could be in Jeff's position one day whether you committed the crime or not, and you'll be happy you have those same rights.
Jeff is 100% right when he said the cops aren't your friends, they're there to pin a crime on someone. There's a reason the words "Anything you say, CAN AND WILL, be used AGAINST YOU" in your rights, because it's true.
Jeff knew this, Jeff used this to his advantage, and to his eventual freedom.
Jeff is awesome.

And some people get tried, convicted, and sentenced to death on the sidewalk.

•𝐅•𝐀•𝐀•𝐅•𝐎•

this is like the intellectual translation of "Wham Bam, thank you for the Coke, put me back in the cell"

The best response when talking to a cop is only 7 words, “ I want to talk to my lawyer”


BEST interview yet, that damn junkie understood his rights better than a majority of Americans, funny how that works!!

Well he's been through it multiple times, I'd be worried if he didn't know his rights.

What I like about Jeff. Instead of arguing and telling everyone about his rights, he simply shuts up!

active addiction after a decade on the gear learn a lot going in & out , with loads of priors

Whats funny?  Junky doesnt mean low I.Q.

Whats funny?  Junky doesnt mean low I.Q.

P1M9daddyStick 12 exactly when u live with screws inside for months or years u learn the drill

Missouri Bear that’s right I no many junky sexworkers  that are now practise law


The only person that took "you have the right to remain silent" seriously


Jeff has a more realistic understanding of the justice system in America than most Americans.


What’s going on with his feet? Like does heroin make your toes fall off?


Guide to talking to the police:
1) Do not
that's it. there are no more points.

Adam C well arnt your just the badass.... they are no doubt not really professional but in this business in their line of work someone incompetent is just as dangerous if not more dangerous than an extremely competent one they both can easily send it to the slammer and give you hell. So saying nothing to Cops in either situation is great advice. Oh and what a Cop being overweight have to do with anything? “I aight scared of no fat detective” shit we did think you were. Ah Lol you are funny.

@Adam C honestly cops will lie, they'll say you know you could go to jail if you don't tell me how fast you were going when in reality thats not true, I dont think its bad advice to say not to talk to cops, there's crooked cops even now and unless you know him personally you probably shouldn't talk, like they'll act like your friend and then put in jail for life like idk where you grew up.

In my country it can actually help you .. Talk to the police, give reasonings, if they are empathetic to your situation and why you commited a crime, it can heavily reduce your sentence

yeah innocent or guilty. except when they ask you "Do you understand" when trying to fine you and if refuse to speak they threaten to throw you in lock up for being drunk and disorderly with only 4 standard drinks under your belt.

I'll add that physical torture is just  way to get to your mind.

@Adam C You where self-aggrandizing and calling people weak.
I wager you have not been in any simular pressed situation. The alternative is you are a hard core criminal.

Those are basically the only ones who can keep quiet for hours and hours on end.

They will also use any method to trick you. If you watched the lecture I linked to you would understand that for a normal person you have very small chances of keeping completely silent.

Remember. You haven't slept. You are hungry. You have intimidating people around you. Both others in jail and your captors.

You don't have control over the lighting. The noises. They put you in a room designed to break you. Making it small. The position of your chair and what you can see is designed to maximize they efforts.

Just waving it all away is like saying those who got put in blackhouses for terrorism suspicion could just relax and enjoy the hardcore metal, constant light, sleep deprivation, intimidation, hunger, thirst, even peeing and having a shit.

You can destroy any man through enough mental pressure. It is just a matter of how long someone will last. Now. The cops are probably not that bad but the kind of pressure they can put on you and the state they can control you in is there.

Stop your grandstanding and pounding of your chest. This isn't pretend to be tough with the mates. I'm talking about reality.

@Adam C You where self-aggrandizing and calling people weak.
I wager you have not been in any simular pressed situation. The alternative is you are a hard core criminal.

Those are basically the only ones who can keep quiet for hours and hours on end.

They will also use any method to trick you. If you watched the lecture I linked to you would understand that for a normal person you have very small chances of keeping completely silent.

Remember. You haven't slept. You are hungry. You have intimidating people around you. Both others in jail and your captors.

You don't have control over the lighting. The noises. They put you in a room designed to break you. Making it small. The position of your chair and what you can see is designed to maximize they efforts.

Just waving it all away is like saying those who got put in blackhouses for terrorism suspicion could just relax and enjoy the hardcore metal, constant light, sleep deprivation, intimidation, hunger, thirst, even peeing and having a shit.

You can destroy any man through enough mental pressure. It is just a matter of how long someone will last. Now. The cops are probably not *that* bad but the kind of pressure they can put on you and the state they can control you in is there.

Stop your grandstanding and pounding of your chest. This isn't pretend to be tough with the mates. I'm talking about reality.

@Adam C How "brave" you are there keyboardwarrior...

that is the worst advice I've ever heard are u high

Don't speak to the police at all. If they arrest you they aren't being nice to get the story straight. They are trying to cover every angle so you are good and fucked. Even if you did nothing and they got the wrong guy. SAY NOTHING. your fight is in court.

Yeah. Sounds easy enough.
However. They basically are allowed to torture you for hours on end psychologically.
You are scared. Nervous. Depressed. Angry.
But yes.

Never talk to the police.
The police knows this very well.
It can only lead to bad things when you are in this situation.
They are experts at getting things out of you.
Even if you are telling the truth and what you are saying wasn't incriminating.

They might have a witness who remember things wrongly and you admission to something non-incriminating and truthful might set you in a bad way.

You can't even use the words you have said for your own benefit.
It will be rejected as hearsay while the cops and prosecutors can use whatever they heard you say.
Because it comes from observations on what the defendant said in their presence.

Yeah. Sounds easy enough.
However. They basically are allowed to torture you for hours on end psychologically.
You are scared. Nervous. Depressed. Angry.
But yes.

Never talk to the police.
The police knows this very well.
It can *only* lead to bad things when you are in this situation.
They are *experts* at getting things out of you.
Even if you are telling the truth and what you are saying wasn't incriminating.

They might have a witness who remember things wrongly and you admission to something non-incriminating and truthful might set you in a bad way.

You can't even use the words you have said for your own benefit.
It will be rejected as hearsay while the cops and prosecutors can use whatever they heard you say.
Because it comes from observations on what the defendant said in their presence.

They definitely don't make it easy for you