When discussing security of Linux as compared to Windows or Mac, I don't like the fact that people usually bring the point of less market share of linux on desktop (which means less incentive for malware developer). Does that mean Linux would be almost as insecure as the others (especially windows) if it had that market share?
I don't know about macOS but Microsoft's Shared Source initiative as far as I know allows cybersecurity researchers to look at Windows source code to find vulnerabilities.
more secure? i can temporaly delete a systen binary(eg syslog) run anysmall bash malware or anything as syslog. theb put back the original syslog. can yiu do that in win? no linux is secure only if is not hacked. once inside better install again. but you never know if you were hacked.
@The V01D I have a background in computing and have a passion for operating systems, i work with computer consulting and have a test lab at home with several real machines (not vm's) with different versions of different operating systems.
I not only use Linux but I am configuring some things on my server right now.
When we talk about security, there are several aspects, from file integrity to system integrity and protection to active external measures ... In my entire career I have NEVER encountered a case where Windows/Mac was the most secure system.
The most secure system is ALWAYS something between systems based on Linux or BSD.
You don't need to read more than 2 books and do more than 2 vulnerability scans to certify that even considering that Windows or Mac can have equivalent security to Linux is a joke.
Windows is a proprietary system, developed by Microsoft, controlled by Microsoft and TESTED by Microsoft (the same is true for Mac ~ Apple).
Linux is by nature accessed by everyone and tested by everyone, improved and strengthened every second (even for architectural reasons). The only place that Linux has not dominated is the common desktop consumer market.
Name any other machine architecture and usability and you will see that Linux dominates it.
I don't want you to trust a random guy on the internet (im pretty sure about what im saying btw), I recommend that you test it on your own (if possible), but I already give you a spoiler of what's to come: Anytime you find a vulnerability in a Linux implementation, the fix will exist before it is even exploited, while on Windows we had the waves of ransomware because of the crappy flaws and absurd patterns that remain for decades in Microsoft (and Apple) products.
Each active thing on your computer is a code, Linux users do not feel safe with Microsoft / Apple products spying users not because they like to use tin foil hats but because the codes that enable them to control the machine can be used by anyone else who knows what they are doing.
On Linux, these codes maintained by compatibility, or developer access, simply do not exist.
I could make an even bigger text with more technical data but I think this is enough for anyone who wants an answer to start considering Linux or wants to understand a little about the system's security...
Oh, before i forget... It is not because you cannot trace situations on Microsoft / Apple systems happening in the same way as on Linux (since you can visualize the lines of code) that they do not occur, you do not need to have the same conditions! You just need to have the same level of access, compile your tool to achieve what you want and scavenge the system. Linux wins by exposing its vulnerabilities and fixing them while Microsoft and Apple prefer to hide theirs for obvious reasons ...
(I am into infosec, so technical details are right up my alley ;) I was just confused because the topic whether linux is secure or not splits the internet into two halves, both saying logical things, but they are totally opposite.)
Idon't know why... I don't want to sound offensive to anyone, but it sounds crazy to me that anyone even considers that there is a dialogue in this regard. There are subjects and disciplines in which perspective and context are important, computing is definitely not one of those cases, in computing you isolate and test and the results are binary... Literally...
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Hey man , i want to know where are those comments like : "i am single" coming from. I mean what the heck are they doing here? This is tech channel not a s@x club or a shit like that. Can u ban them or something?
well... let we be for real Linux is secure but if a gamer wants to use it... well.... not a good idea (even he knows how to use linux) if a grafikdesigner wants to use Linux im sure there is a version of linux only for them, but he has to learn how to use linux and handle some problems like directory not found apt-get .. blablabla... if a nomrla person who just use excell and E-Mails... them he ll desisntall linux and use Windows in her first error message... the reason why people do not use linux is simple .. they don't know how to randle a new plataform. I used ubuntu for almost 2 years and when I started my IT study I needed to reinstall Windows..
Hey man. I ran Linux as my native OS for years with a Windows VM for the few Windows bits I couldn't do in Linux. I don't do that these days for reasons I won't bore you with, but you can! Edit: for my business crap, anyway...
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The V01D2020-10-12 09:10:43 (edited 2020-10-12 09:11:53 )
That's something Linus Torvald already said (many times) though.
Linux can't and won't be able to to dominate the desktop market.
However there are many very good systems for beginners, with the rise of GUI package managers, some distros have a very good chance at keeping a new consumer on linux.
I'm so glad I found your channel. One of the few's I actually can't wait to watch.
13 likesWhen discussing security of Linux as compared to Windows or Mac, I don't like the fact that people usually bring the point of less market share of linux on desktop (which means less incentive for malware developer).
1 likeDoes that mean Linux would be almost as insecure as the others (especially windows) if it had that market share?
I don't know about macOS but Microsoft's Shared Source initiative as far as I know allows cybersecurity researchers to look at Windows source code to find vulnerabilities.
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Shared ~ Open
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Open to everyone
There is a monumental difference.
Didn't know this, thank you for ! Love your to the point videos.
2 likeseverytime a patch comes you have to format and install again....thats a burden!
0 likesDoes Malwarebytes and Ccleaner work on a Linux computer? If not, can you recommend similar programs who run in Linux?
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You dont need that on Linux...
0 likesLinux is not and alternative, is a completely different system. Don't try to adapt Windows programs, just migrate
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0 likesThe video has finally popped up in my recommendation, I dunno why aren't your videos getting out their to a bigger crowd anymore
0 likesCrypto, Out! I'll get better at remembering to put it in :) Wowsa I must of drank some coffee this morning, was talking pretty quick
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2 likesmore secure? i can temporaly delete a systen binary(eg syslog) run anysmall bash malware or anything as syslog. theb put back the original syslog. can yiu do that in win? no
0 likeslinux is secure only if is not hacked. once inside better install again. but you never know if you were hacked.
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Ohooo my brother you're soo wrong xD
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@See Sharp why is he wrong?
1 likeI am struggling to figure out whether linux is secure now or not.
@The V01D I have a background in computing and have a passion for operating systems, i work with computer consulting and have a test lab at home with several real machines (not vm's) with different versions of different operating systems.
1 likeI not only use Linux but I am configuring some things on my server right now.
When we talk about security, there are several aspects, from file integrity to system integrity and protection to active external measures ... In my entire career I have NEVER encountered a case where Windows/Mac was the most secure system.
The most secure system is ALWAYS something between systems based on Linux or BSD.
You don't need to read more than 2 books and do more than 2 vulnerability scans to certify that even considering that Windows or Mac can have equivalent security to Linux is a joke.
Windows is a proprietary system, developed by Microsoft, controlled by Microsoft and TESTED by Microsoft (the same is true for Mac ~ Apple).
Linux is by nature accessed by everyone and tested by everyone, improved and strengthened every second (even for architectural reasons). The only place that Linux has not dominated is the common desktop consumer market.
Name any other machine architecture and usability and you will see that Linux dominates it.
I don't want you to trust a random guy on the internet (im pretty sure about what im saying btw), I recommend that you test it on your own (if possible), but I already give you a spoiler of what's to come: Anytime you find a vulnerability in a Linux implementation, the fix will exist before it is even exploited, while on Windows we had the waves of ransomware because of the crappy flaws and absurd patterns that remain for decades in Microsoft (and Apple) products.
Each active thing on your computer is a code, Linux users do not feel safe with Microsoft / Apple products spying users not because they like to use tin foil hats but because the codes that enable them to control the machine can be used by anyone else who knows what they are doing.
On Linux, these codes maintained by compatibility, or developer access, simply do not exist.
I could make an even bigger text with more technical data but I think this is enough for anyone who wants an answer to start considering Linux or wants to understand a little about the system's security...
Oh, before i forget... It is not because you cannot trace situations on Microsoft / Apple systems happening in the same way as on Linux (since you can visualize the lines of code) that they do not occur, you do not need to have the same conditions! You just need to have the same level of access, compile your tool to achieve what you want and scavenge the system. Linux wins by exposing its vulnerabilities and fixing them while Microsoft and Apple prefer to hide theirs for obvious reasons ...
@See Sharp Wow, thanks for the detailed info!
0 likes(I am into infosec, so technical details are right up my alley ;)
I was just confused because the topic whether linux is secure or not splits the internet into two halves, both saying logical things, but they are totally opposite.)
@The V01D You're welcome.
0 likesIdon't know why... I don't want to sound offensive to anyone, but it sounds crazy to me that anyone even considers that there is a dialogue in this regard. There are subjects and disciplines in which perspective and context are important, computing is definitely not one of those cases, in computing you isolate and test and the results are binary... Literally...
Can u make a reddit it would be so awesome to help sponsor u or something where we can all learn and help give back when thats my virtue and help unite people who think the same
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1 likeHey man , i want to know where are those comments like : "i am single" coming from. I mean what the heck are they doing here? This is tech channel not a s@x club or a shit like that. Can u ban them or something?
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0 likeswell... let we be for real Linux is secure but if a gamer wants to use it... well.... not a good idea (even he knows how to use linux) if a grafikdesigner wants to use Linux im sure there is a version of linux only for them, but he has to learn how to use linux and handle some problems like directory not found apt-get .. blablabla... if a nomrla person who just use excell and E-Mails... them he ll desisntall linux and use Windows in her first error message... the reason why people do not use linux is simple .. they don't know how to randle a new plataform. I used ubuntu for almost 2 years and when I started my IT study I needed to reinstall Windows..
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Hey man. I ran Linux as my native OS for years with a Windows VM for the few Windows bits I couldn't do in Linux. I don't do that these days for reasons I won't bore you with, but you can! Edit: for my business crap, anyway...
1 likeThat's something Linus Torvald already said (many times) though.
0 likesLinux can't and won't be able to to dominate the desktop market.
However there are many very good systems for beginners, with the rise of GUI package managers, some distros have a very good chance at keeping a new consumer on linux.
@The V01D yep. My daily driver is windows. WSL2 is adequate for most of the tools I need in Linux.
0 likes@Whipster I don't trust Microsoft with WSL tbh they are tryna get info about linux users in my opinion.
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