Luna Was Reformed Without the Mane 6 🌙

Just being in the presence of Derpy is enough to be reformed

Honestly the nightmare moon timeline didn't seem too bad. They must have figured food out, and ponies had jobs at least.

Discord for sure just popped her back to her normal, reformed form once he took over.

He doesn't wanna mess with Nightmare Moon. He doesn't even know her. But Luna? That's about as fun as Celestia! Of course he'd wanna mess with the both of them together! He's done that directly before he was turned to stone, after all.

I got a question: Didn't Discord break free of his stone imprisonment the first time due to the Mane 6 becoming connected to the Elements? Since I believe Celestia stated that the cause of his return was her and Luna, who banished him into stone, no longer being connected to the Elements anymore. So would Discord have still returned, or is it just the "after one thousand years banishment" thing? How would all that work?

I will personally never get tired of these multiverse videos. Theories about how differently the world we know could have become due to small actions is endlessly entertaining because there are endless possibilities! Although, from the thumbnail, I thought you were going to talk about the options for a makeshift 6, not discord timelines. A future video, perhaps? I'd love to see your take on who Celestia could have rounded up in lieu of the main 6 and what they could accomplish! (And how they failed hehe)

The idea of the Makeshift Six being our favorite background characters is already appealing even if they did fail. Lets be honest though, Derpy would be way too powerful to beat and so I doubt it happened.

Some fun alternate time lines , feel free to discuss them more

1A: Discord is never broken free from stone because the CMC never argued because the CMC never became friends

1B: The CMC become friends with a different combination of ponies the discord event doesn't factor in but rather then hooking up the CMC as we know then Apple Bloom befriends Twist, Sweetie Belle befriends Diamond Tiara and Scootaoo befriends Rumble (well you can change the friends around but point is they hook up completely differently)

2: What is your alternate main six? is it the six background ponies? is it Sunset Shimmer, Trixie and Starlight? is it some pone else? Would it maybe be the CMC? Would it be the siblings of the six? and what alternate jobs would the main six do?

3: If G5 is in the future how far has the equestria girls counter parts progressed?

4. If Sunset shimmer never left for the human world would she be good or evil? would she befriend Starlight and Trixie still? How would she face the big villains of the show?

5. What if the Apple parents never died?

6. What if Spike had lived in the dragon lands from the start?

6B What if spike after being raised by ponies has ruled the dragon lands?

7. What if the Pillers never got banished and had children and those children were still around running things?

8. What if Moon Dancer had been along side Twilight helping her throw-out her journey ?

9. What if Fluttershy never fell off her cloud and became a wonder bolt?

10. What if we changed every thing? Show us one time line with the most changes in it but where things still work out. How many of your ideas or any number of other ideas can all fit on one time line ?

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Sawtooth, didn’t Discord come before Nightmare Moon? I thought she didn’t become evil because there was no time to. In the potion flashback episode (I think it was the S4 premiere) Zecora said that Twilight needed to go further back in time than Nightmare, and that’s when she saw the Discord defeat. After the Discord defeat is when I assumed they took a leadership role, and then the Nightmare stuff happened. Am I wrong? Can you clarify where this fits in?

Can we just appreciate how they spend their time on videos to make us happy

I really loved the idea of the alternative timelines being directly tied so tightly between one and another. The idea of Celestia trying to create a replacement for the original mane 6 is more than possible. However, you brought up a point that I think would make a great video: why didn't Celestia purified Nightmare Moon herself? I might have a theory. It's not only about the fact of having or not one if the virtues, but also about bonds. Let's assume that the elements of Harmony are powered by the strength of their users' bond with each other and then look at who wielded the elements with who: we have the royal sisters, probably the firsts to have wielded the elements as we know them, Celestia by herself and then the mane 6. We already know that, even if they love each other, the royal sisters have their fights, so their bond is decently strong. However, the bond of the mane 6 is arguably stronger (sidenote, we need to address the fact that, when they got discord-ed, not only they lost their virtues, but their bond as well). And lastly, there's Celestia's bond with herself: she feels guilty about what she did to her sister, and what she has to do. Despite resonating with the elements, her bond with herself is the weakest, so much so that she's forced to use her own magic on top of the elements' (the Golden aura that enveloped the elements' rainbow). If we assume that different spells require a certain amount of power, we have our answer: Celestia, weighed down by her guilt was too weak to eradicate the corruption from her sister and so, she had to banish her to the moon, waiting for someone that not only could resonate with the elements, but had the potential to create a powerful bond with the other bearers.

Yes, Sawtooth theory video time again!...however it could be possible that the reason why there was no Nightmare Moon in the Discord timeline was because Celestia and Luna turned Discord to stone before the Nightmare Moon thing, but since Discord was never defeated in that timeline then that meant the royal sisters were too busy dealing with Discord for Luna to have any time at all to become Nightmare Moon...at least that's my theory.

"fillies, colts and enby folks."

YES

I LOVE THIS

I think that all alicorns born with wings who had the given to them when they became an alicorn have colored wing tips
So that means cadance was born as a pegasus. And flurry has colored wings because she was born with magic of all three times. And it explains why cozy glow has colored wing tips too! Some food for thought ;) PS I love your videos and theories sawtooth!

Okay, so I was just rewatching MLP: A New Generation and I noticed something. Whenever a character is seen without an object of clothing, it signals a shift in the character’s role. This is shown in various examples, such as Queen Haven getting arrested and presumably losing her title as queen shortly after losing her crown and Hitch losing his badge shortly after Sprout becomes sheriff, and Sprout gaining the military attire when becoming emperor. In short, changing clothes is established as a shift in the role a character plays in the story.
With this information, I point you to the opening scene with Sunny and her father, when Phyllis came to take her son away. Notice anything different about Phyllis? She is not wearing her VIP badge. With the precedent set by other characters in the story, I believe that this is implying that Phyllis was not the head of Canterlogic at this point in time, as she has said VIP badge in every scene after. However, as shown by her intrigue about Sprout gaining power, It can be assumed that she attempts to gain power and founds Canterlogic soon after.
While this theory fleshes out Phyllis’ backstory a bit more, the game-changing information comes a few scenes later during the Canterlogic presentation. In what is an important line from a theorizer’s viewpoint, the announcer states “As the founder of Canterlogic, she (Phyllis) has been keeping us safe and stylish for the last 20 moons.” This is so important because it is the framework to answer one of MLP’s biggest mysteries, the question of how long a moon is. Since this line is referring to the time that Phyllis has been head of Canterlogic and if we assume that Canterlogic does not exist in the opening scene, then 20 moons can’t exceed the time between the jump in time from that scene to the present day.
Now that we have the framework for the length of the moon, we still have two important questions to answer, how long is the time skip in the first part of the movie and when in that time period did Phyllis found Canterlogic.
For the first question, we must find out what the age of young Sunny and older Sunny is. To do this, we must use rules established by G4. For years I have assumed that ponies age at a similar rate to humans rather than real life horses, as in “For Whom the Sweetie Belle Toils” we see a 5 year old Sweetie Belle, if Ponies grew up at the rate of real life horses, Sweetie Belle would be a full grown mare, not a toddler like in case of the scene. Furthermore, as we can see, current Sweetie Belle is significantly taller than her 5-year old self, confirming that she is significantly older then 5 years old. Likewise, we know that Sweetie Belle is not a teenager, as she is shorter than ponies that we assume to be teenagers, such as Biscuit and Spur in “Growing Up Is Hard to Do.” With this information, one could assume that Sweetie Belle’s age ranges from 8-12 years old. With this in mind, let’s turn our attention back to young Sunny, who is a similar heigh in comparison to adults as Sweetie Belle. Thus, we can assume can Sunny Starscout was anywhere from 8-12. With the same logic applied to adults, we can infer that Sunny Starscout, now a young adult, is anywhere from 18 years old to her early 20s. While there is no way of telling her exact age, lets just assume median values to make the solution easier to reach. Let’s assume that young Sunny is around 10 years old and adult Sunny is around 20 years old. With this assumption, that would mean that there is about a decade between the since with Sunny and her father and the rest of the film, which would mean that 20 moons can’t exceed a decade.
Now the second question is trickier to find the answer to, as nowhere in the film is their even the slightest clue as to when Phyllis became head and founder of Canterlogic. This is a question that we just have to wait for any hint of an answer during the show. But for the sake of my argument, let’s just assume the most extreme position, that Phyllis created Canterlogic shortly after her argument with Argyle. In this assumption, that would mean that Phyllis was head of Canterlogic every year during the assumed decade time skip. This would mean that 20 moon would be the equivalent of 10 years, meaning that there is at most 2 moons in every year, making a moon a biannual event.
Does the answer rely on assumptions and stretching logic? -yes
Does it contradict evidence in FIM? -most likely
Will it get contradicted in the new series? -probably
Is it the most sound theory given the information in MLP A New Generation?- I like to think so.

My mind has been blown once again by Sawtooth. It’s been a while, I first watched this guy when he was Brony Notion years ago, it’s nice to watch his videos again

I love your theories! I'm so happy you didn't leave g4 when g5 came out!

Another awesome video!

But I think the problem for answering the timeline question for everyone is that there are just too many uncertainties and too many variations in individual headcanons since there is no official answer to say how strong the villains are. There are just too many possible ways of stuff happening that depend on many possible variables that have no universal answer. But that's what makes it great - It leaves space for speculation and awesome theories.

On a narrative point of view
I like the idea of a timeline where discord freed Luna to be the one she defeats him and takes over. You know as a, "aaah my hubris!!" Type plot line.
And Celestia freeing luna herself and getting her sister back feels much more rewarding emotionally.

Just some thoughts

love how sawtooth posts my little pony theories in 2022... they're a national treasure 🥺

The only question I have in regards to Discord stealing Nightmare Moon's corruption is the fact that Luna has two different appearances, differing in coat shade and the presence of a semi-translucent mane, supposedly due to being in a depowered state after being reformed. The next time we see her in Luna Eclipsed, she had supposedly regained her lost magical power.

However, in the Discord timeline, the Luna we see is in the "re-powered" state, and if Discord truly did remove the Nightmare magic from her (which could probably leave her even more depowered due to it being removed by force), why did he allow her to regain her lost magical energy?

In the idw comics in the reflection arc. we see that derpy is a element of harmony along with gilda, flim and flam, chrysalis, lighting dust and trixie. So your theory isn't so far-fetched. If every version of equestria has different wielders of the elements

Just a sudden weird thought... The wasteland timeline was the result of Cozy Glow. It would actually finally make that timeline make sense. (Oh hey YT thank for notifying me of comments... And I will point out even Sawtooth said Cozy Glow's plan could have still been enacted without the school!)

You always make great theories! I think Celestia freed Nightmare Moon as Lauren Faust stated. Maybe Nightmare Moon was reformed by Celestia, because Celestia simply talked to her. She gave her side of the story, told her how much she missed her and showed her Discords chaos. Maybe Luna forgave Celestia? Or maybe she transformed just visually back to Luna and after defeating Discord she attacked Celestia and banished her to the moon. Nightmare Moon was too fast for Celestia and it was a complete suprise attack.

Nightmare Moon: Wins against Discord.
Chrysalis: OK your time is over.

It's funny how no one's noticed how Luna's shorter than Celestia and has been around for over a thousand years

Even though somehow less than a century goes by and twilight is as tall as Celestia

Does this mean Luna will always be short

I think you should read the comics, specifically friends forever issue 3 with spike and Celestia. I know it isn't cannon but it does set up that Celestia could have fixed everything but wanted twilight to learn

Thank you Sawtooth!
I've always been so confused as to why Luna was reformed in that timeline.😉

Luna's escape was an inevitability, meaning it was SUPPOSED to happen. All casted magic has a limit to it, and the stars were nothing more than the seal on an envelope of slow-time in which Luna was imprisoned in.

sawtooth is legit the game theory of MLP and i’m loving it 😭

Wow. That's mind-blowing, especially with Discord taking Nightmare Moon's dark magic. And Season 2 Discord was a lot more sinister than later Discord, so sensing a twisted, corrupted magic and weaving that into his own chaos magic would be something he would do, which I think would be easy for him considering how Equestria's Chaos magic seems to function.

Great theory as usual! For some reason in the discord timeline though, discord let luna regain her magic? Weird.

We’ve seen Celestia and Luna wield the elements of harmony before but Celestia only wilded Magic,Generosity and kindness while Luna wielded Loyalty,Laughter and Honesty

I believe Celestia needed a pony to wield the elements individually in order to reform another pony

My second theory is that some pony befriended Luna bringing her to redemption

I mostly think the elements were symbols the real reason ponies where redeeming was that of friendship not the elements themselves

I love these theory videos. So much thought goes into them, it's so intriguing.

“The forces of good aided in Nightmare Moon’s escape” has me thinking about the Spirit of Harmony again (despite the fact that I’m always thinking about it/them)…

Imagine the Spirit being the one behind the stars aiding the escape (Discord has been seen to be capable of controlling the sun and moon, so for an entity supposedly just as powerful controlling the stars would be highly plausible), when Discord is in rule.

It would be sort of like a Suicide Squad (although just one villain, not an actual squad), where the Spirit is aware of Celestia’s/Equestria’s defeat, and in a last attempt releases Nightmare Moon to defeat Discord, and whoever wins depends on the universe.

It makes you think about how the Elements, when in Celestia’s use and possession, sent Nightmare Moon to the moon, and the Elements were an extension of the Tree of Harmony, which is a part of harmony, which is then embodied by the Spirit of Harmony. Did the Spirit control everything that the Elements did (send Nightmare Moon to the moon, reform Luna, turn Discord to stone twice… that’s it I think)? Even just not deflecting Starswir’s unfinished spell was probably intentional, because Discord had been seen deflecting magical spells, and The Stare, (excluding the Elements, but they don’t really count), with ease?

I absolutely love these alternate timeline theories! Very fascinating. Keep it up Sawtooth!

I always thought that this mus be discord's first reign, and that this was the past where Luna and Celestia weren't enemies yet. But explaining this now makes me realise that they had first defeated Discord without the main 6. All they needed was the elements of harmony.

In Mlp? Spells wear off, but artifacts STILL WORK! So the elements would fall to someone else if our mane 6 aren't available.

I personally think that the idea of Celestia freeing her in one timeline while Discord frees her in another is the most plausible. In four timelines she is freed; the true one, the Nighmare Moon one, the Discord one, and the Chrysalis one. And then in the others, no one sees any reason to try and free her, so she stays trapped.
Also, that BURN on Chrysalis, just glorious.

~secret alternate alternate timeline~
Nightmare Moon: breaks free
Discord: snaps fingers "You're a clown now."

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us, Sawtooth! Your multiverse ideas are fun to listen to. ^_^
Discord being the one to restore (and possibly free) Luna in an alternate timeline is an interesting scenario. He seems to be stronger than the royal sisters combined, so he'd probably be stronger than Nightmare Moon.
I wonder why it took Celestia a thousand years to find new Element bearers. Maybe the Elements were so magically damaged after she used them against a fellow bearer that it took a long time for them to recover. I also can't help but wonder if the disharmony created during the first Nightmare Moon incident combined with Celestia using the Elements in a negative manner weakened Discord's stone prison. It could explain how he broke out not too long after Nightmare Moon.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, the Element of Magic only appeared after Twilight had her realization. I wonder if the Element of Magic actually vanished right after the banishment spell was cast. That or Celestia hid it in a separate place as some kind of test.

I think a mix of all of them took place. It started as one timeline. The one we know and turned to the Starlight timeline then the choices than Celestial made changed the timelines and put them in two. Two with a new main six and two with Nightmare Moon then once all of these are put out the next villain comes along.

Perhaps there was simply a time limit on the spell Celestia used in the first place. She cast a 1,000 year banishment spell, so Luna (as Nightmare Moon) was freed simply by the time limit expiring. Especially since they knew when she would be released long ago enough for it to be written in the book from which Twilight learned about Nightmare Moon.

Keep the multiverse theories coming!! Super interesting idea!

Well, looking back in other seasons— such as when twilight sparkle drinks that weird white potion in I believe “Princess Twilight Sparkle” one of the times in the past that she gets teleported to is the one where Luna and Celestia confront discord. This was before the mane 6 got the elements of harmony, when Twilight witnesses the day that Luna transforms into Nightmare moon somewhere in those same 2 parts, she is in the form of our regular Luna that we all know. This theory is good, but, unfortunately, nightmare moon comes much after when Celestia and Luna defeat him. Therefore, in the timeline that Discord has taken over, it took place before nightmare moons arrival—rather, transformation.

As we know, Celestia and Luna, with the help of elements of harmony, imprisoned Discord in stone. And it seems that this happened even before the Luna became Nightmare Moon. And if we assume that in the alternative future in which Discord won, Luna simply did not have time to turn into Nightmare Moon, it turns out that the elements of harmony and the main six were not needed for her reforming.

Как мы знаем, Селестия и Луна общими усилиями с помощью элементов гармонии заключили Дискорда в камень. И похоже, что произошло это ещё до того, как Луна стала Найтмер Мун. И если предположить, что в альтернативной будущем, в котором Дискорд победил, Луна просто не успела превратиться в Найтмер Мун, получится, что элементы гармонии и главная шестёрка для её перевоспитания не понадобились.

“Fillies, colts, and enby folks” really made me smile. Thank you

I just thought of something... around a year ago you made a video talking about how the portal works. You were also trying to figure out what other creatures would turn into after heading into the human world and it got me thinking... it has happened twice now (once with Queen Chrysalis and another with Ocellus) that after a changeling has transformed into a pony, they got ladybug cutie marks. What if... changelings turn into ladybugs in the human world??? I mean it's a possibility right??

I love how you picked doctor hooves derpy Lyra bon bon vinyl and Octavia to be in the makeshift mane 6 such a cute team

sawtooths videos make my day better

I really love this idea. I was writing a fanfiction about the background 6 and this gave me some new ideas. I love all of your videos!!

Something that I’d wanna see…
What would a world be like with that makeshift Mane 6 if they were quite literally the most luckiest out of all version of the “Maneshift 6”

Best princess, but I wonder if luster dawn ever became an alicorn.

Amazing job SawTooth Waves. I really enjoy these video’s. Keep up the good work. Have a wonderful day.

You could also consider that when we see Luna in Discord's timeline it might not actually be Luna, making a fake Luna to torture Celestia would be pretty funny to him...

your videos are very addicting and it feels like going inside a rabbit hole

It’s so great to see these timeline theory’s even though the show is over with the mane 6 but nobody will ever forget their legacy

I love the idea of discord releasing Luna for funsies. Just a normal Tuesday activity

I’m just confused how those timelines were affected by Starlight. If Starlight’s interference had the same to no influence, how did the two timelines end up different?

This is very interesting... I like the Discord VS Nightmare theory where 1 AU he wins and the other she wins... maybe he defeated her and that was enough to reform her... or he used his chaos magic to make her look like young luna?

Interesting, though for Nightmare Moon's release to have been intentional, the book Twilight was reading must have been "deepfaked" by Celestia. Thus it seems to me that the option where she is released in all timelines is the more likely.
And if there is corruption magic to remove that would indicate that Stygian, Sombre, and Luna all were impacted by a similar force. Does that mean, as I suspect, that the "Pony of Shadows" is part of ancient magic like Windigos and was weakened but not fully removed by Starswirl and co.?

Kind of off topic with the video but I had a thought: in the new my little pony movie a new generation do you think the other creatures still survived if so how did they act without magic? Hippogriffs need a magic to turn into the sea pony forms and if you need magic to fly how did the griffins function? Or are they just straight up extinct??

Theory: Celestial had the power to do everything the main 6 accomplished but it was more of a test as they will later in the future rule equestria and they needed to be prepared

I've always wondered what the other timelines were like. We only saw 3 of them in detail. I know the writers probably did that so the episode wouldn't exceed the 22-minute mark, but it's still interesting.

Damn, I haven’t seen your content since I was 5 or 6. Maybe 7, Idunno. I was actually really happy to see that you’re still making content, let alone the exact same content. I was OBSESSED with your content, and it’s still really amazing how in depth you go with your theories. If you see this, have an amazing day, week, month, etc. you deserve it. :]

This is the greatest thing I've ever seen

The time lord is very pleased by your timeline videos

I love it when the fandom brings up plot holes!

The show is really clear on this. The book Twilight reads at the begining of the very first episode answers it.

"On the longest day of the thousandth year, the stars will aid in her escape"

In order for that to have been written in the book, it must have been known beforehand that Luna would only be up there for a thousand years. Twilight just happens to be alive during that time. NMM would have returned no matter what. She has to be a factor in all timelines because her return was already inevitable long before the sonic rainboom happened.

What's much less clear, and more interesting to speculate about is how Discord could have possibly returned without the mane 6 & crusaders, or how Chrysalis's plan worked without a wedding taking place if Cadence and Shining never met due to Twilight failing the royal exam.

My dude is single handedly making mlp into the mcu years after the show ended

Love how this was my childhood show and now after watching literally ALL of these videos


Dam I missed a lot - this just me?

We see Discord make the day night cycle random when he's in control, meaning his magic is strong enough to override Celestia's to control the sun and moon. Probably when he took that power, the seal keeping nightmare moon locked away was broken since Discord is not connected to the elements like Celestia is. So Discord could have inadvertently freed her without realising it. Surprising Celestia as well. And maybe Celestia has to choose how to use the elements with Discord on the loose and Nightmare Moon free she has to choose whether to Reform her sister or turn Discord back to stone. And the 2 timelines are the results of her choice. One where Luna is reformed and one where Discord is defeated but Nightmare Moon takes over.

5:37 - I like how with any other character we would ask "Why'd he do that?" but with Discord we don't even question it and assume he would just for shits and giggles

By far the most intriguing thing about the multiple timelines is that actually, yeah no, equestria survived fine against 1-5 of the world ending calamities without their help. Raises so many possibilities

you know, this would be a fun mini series! like you did with reforming the villain's!! trying to figure out how each timeline came to be, or at least the most likely of them, i think it could be fun to watch and do!

Wait, but when Starlight traveled through time, she didn’t exactly create multiple timelines, no? I mean, stuffs got back to normal, it’s just that she messed up the singular timeline for a good 30 minutes… I mean, Zecora even says how she and the other surviving ponies “weren’t supposed to be”, and if there were multiple timelines, you’d think that’d they’d just ‘be’ in their timeline?

hey! i was kinda wondering if the book that closed at the end of mlp was actually the book that sunny’s dad was researching and that’s how the G5 came to be so doesn’t that mean sunny’s dad was a really important part of G5?

I have a theory that might line up with this. I think without the mane six, the elements of harmony may have never even been formed. In the timeline where Discord takes over, it looks like when BEFORE Luna became Nightmare Moon. If this is true, then she never became Nightmare Moon in that timeline and she was never "released" or even banished. As for the one where Nightmare Moon rules, Celestia maybe finds a different way to banish her sister but she escapes anyway and defeats her sister. No elements of harmony, no mane six, not even a different mane six

What about the Bewitching Bell? Discord could have found it after being released from stone and used it to steal the magic from Nightmare Moon like that to win the fight. When posing as Grogar he said he knew where it was, so why can't this be a possibility?

I don't think the show creators thought about it too much so it is insanely satisfying that you can still find a good explanation for it all

I feel like this 1 episode could feed a whole army of hungry Sawtooth Waves-

I mean I have been theorizing from the beginning that Twilight's best friend Moondancer became Celestia's apprentice. Then she basically almost replaced Twilight. The timeline changes dramatically but she with friends from and outside of ponyville face the villain's, the only difference is when they end up failing to defeat the villain's. In the nightmare moon timeline, they somehow don't reform her, whether because the party was too small or because Moondancer couldn't figure out what Twilight did. In other times they fail for various different reasons. I have no idea what they are but I do know they fail to completely replace the main side thus not making them infallible. The discord timeline could be one where Moondancer fails to uncorrupt herself and thus fails to uncorrupt the others.

Or perhaps, Celestia gained a deeper connection to the elements banishing Nightmare Moon the first time, and then when she brought her back in the Discord timeline, that deeper connection allowed Celestia to reform Luna. (I know it sounds weird but I don't like logic so, I'm going with it)

In the Nightmare Moon timeline, Rainbow was watching the battle between Starlight and Twilight with the 2 bullies. That could have caused her to tip the balance and be unloyal with bad influences. She might have helped Nightmare Moon gain power.

I think it's more likely that Nightmare Moon's return came before Discord's return. If you think about it, the reason Discord broke out was because of the Celestia no longer being connected to the Elements, and because of the CMC having their fight right in front of him (I'm still wondering why that fight even happened in the first place). So, if the Mane 6 never came together, and Nightmare Moon was released due to the celestial bodies, then it would make sense that Celestia's lack of presence and Nightmare Moon's takeover would be enough to break Discord free.
I think what may have happened is that in the Discord timeline, Nightmare Moon was reformed when she realized what Celestia's absence meant for Equestria and attempted to bring her back. Unfortunately, by the time Celestia was returned, it was too late, as Discord had gotten a hold of the Elements of Harmony. In the Nightmare Moon timeline, however, either Discord's escape hadn't happened yet, or Nightmare Moon had gotten her own set of Mane 6 (specifically, the 6 ponies that acted as her royal guard, including Rainbow Dash) to wield the Elements in her stead, possibly using them against both Celestia and Discord. Keep in mind that in the main timeline, Nightmare Moon was setting up obstacles that tested the Mane 6 in their respective Elements, including trying to sway Rainbow Dash into abandoning her friends. I think in the Nightmare Moon timeline, the race that decided the fate of Equestria may have affected Rainbow Dash's loyalty and faithfulness to her friends, because if you remember, the reason the race even happened was because she was defending Fluttershy's honor, but because the race was interrupted by Twilight and Starlight's battle, that race never got finished, and Fluttershy was effectively abandoned.

One thing everyone seems to forget is that Celestia controls the sun. The sun is a star. "The stars will aid in her escape" with that in mind, this phrase opens up the fact that Celestia believed that after a thousand years, Luna would be open to negotiating with her and possibly becoming reformed.

my theory is the Elements of Harmony needed to store enough power to Revert Luna. They not only stripped her of her magic they reverted her body to an earlier state. This also explains why Celestia kept the Elements in the old castle instead of moving them, she removed the temptation. She could have easily moved them like she moved Discord's statue to the Canterlot Garden.

I also had the idea she started Celestia's school for gifted unicorns to find the Bearer of Magic. So it's possible if Twilight didn't surge she chose another unicorn to be her personal student after Sunset Shimmer.

I love these theories so much <3

Like many have said the elements were loyal to celestia and luna, the ones who turned discord to stone, but when they changed loyalty to the main 6 the stone spell was weakened. Some may argue that it was the CMC's fighting that freed him, but i think that because the spell was already weakened by the elements changing hands the CMC's bringing a little "discord" into the area was enough to free him. Although this couldn't have happened in the alternate timelines so how was he freed?

It is likely nightmare moon was freed after a thousand years in all the timelines and was just overpowered by other villains in the ones we didn't see her in. As for the two we did see her in what if celestia's gamble was not for freeing Luna but freeing Discord! I know it sounds weird but it kinda makes sense, the outcome of this makes either the nightmare moon timeline or the discord timeline and for celestia the discord timeline is better. In the nightmare moon timeline celestia was banished to the moon but in the discord timeline where discord beat/reformed nightmare moon, celestia would have to live in eternal chaos but she'd be reunited with her sister.

Discord came before nightmare moon every existed he must of just defeated celestial and luna

I think that Discord could have been the one to bring back Luna and take away her magic, because in the timeline we continue with, he was able to give magic to Cozy Glow, Tyrek, and Chrysalis when he was pretending to be Grogar. Or, if it wasn't him, then I have a theory that at first, the real Grogar brought everyone together, then while they were walking around, looking for the bell, he found Grogar, and vanquished him again. Though Discord did admit to pretending to be Grogar to bring the villains together in friendship, as the Main 6 had done for him, he also could have lied about it, in order to bring less panic to the ponies, who were already worried sick about the freed Tyrek and Cozy Glow, and the returned Chrisalis.

These are my theories, and either the first is true, which cancels out the second, or the second is true, and now that's a whole new theory.

Yes but think of it this way when the main six were there with discord he controlled both Sun and Moon along with his chaos so technically Luna would not have anything to get jealous of so Luna could also still be just Luna there's some food for thought

I wonder how these alternate timelines would end up looking if we fast forward them to when Sunny was around. How would that affect our new mane 5? :)

Awesome video

Something I've realized while thinking about the villains free for all theory is that we only see the present time as of the Starlight incident. This means that what we see could be simply a snippet of the full picture where the situation isn't as bleak as it seems. You where catapulted into the Twilight vs Tirek fight and didn't get to see how it ends then you would probably assume it was a Tirek wins doomsday scenario. Who's to say that's not happening in any of the other timelines seen as Twilight only sticks around in a few timelines and in a lot of them the fight is still going

My Perspective on this: In the episode the return of harmony celestial revealed that she and Luna had Just discovered the elements of harmony therefore they turned Discord into stone BEFORE Luna became nightmare moon but with Discord in control Luna’s jealousy that led her to become nightmare moon never came.

Discord could’ve just snapped her back to be evil

2:49 Celestia is facing the right side, while when Luna is trapped she's facing the left

my guess on nightmare moon being freed was it was an automatic thing, like perhaps when the stars were in the same alignment as when she was imprisoned, that let her escape. My guess is that Celestia knew it would happen and started to prepare when the time was right

I always love your au videos!

When you think about it, wasn’t each timeline further in the future? So wouldn’t it make sense if each villain owed their success to a previous one? I could be wrong but it’s just a thought

Discord is for me the most powerful creature. He can literally rip a portal to "our real world" and would send tree hugger there out of jealousy

So what I think how she got your form is by if her magic is strong enough to take her out of the Moon she can get out and this word won't notice a thing or if this could let her out and she wants her off somewhere and say needs and he takes away her magic that's a whole different story line. But it's still a mystery to find out.

i don’t think nightmare moon and discord could’ve coexisted. when we first met discord in season 2 celestia explained that “since luna and i are no longer connected to the elements, the spell has been broken,” implying that if celestia defeated nightmare moon herself, discord would’ve never returned.
so regardless of how everything with nightmare moon played out, celestia would’ve had to created a “makeshift 6” or allowed anypony else to use the elements in order for discord to take over.

My theory, for each timelines:
Sombra timeline: The “forces of good” release Luna because they know full that Celestia can defeat her, Celestia use the element of Harmony to banish her sister again. Then also use it to defeat Chrysalis because their no wedding in this timeline. Since she still kept the elements, Discord can’t escape. Because of defeating all that enemies in a short time, when Sombra comes, she has no way to defeat him because she is exhausted. So Equestria’s army has to fight Sombra.
Chrysalis timeline: I think your theory is good
Nightmare Moon timeline: I think Celestia miss Luna Soooo much that she release her on the longest day. Luna comeback and she steal the elements from her sister in some vulnerable moments. Since the elements have linked with both the sisters, Discord is not released. With the power of the elements, Chrysalis is killed under the hand of Nightmare Moon. I think this timeline is the darkest timeline of all.
Discord timeline: Your theory is Amazing
Tirek timeline: I think that this used to be a Discord timeline and like in our timeline, Tirek fooled Discord and rule Equestria
Flim Flam Timeline: Plain stupid, run out of villains, pass
The last timeline: I liked the idea of the Shadow pony but this timeline is too messed up to make a theory

Your videos are so good! Keep it up!

5:00 he might of also put that corrupted magic INTO the elements, making them completely unusable, which he then reshaped into the gems on his chaos king's hat.

I'm confused. Wasn't discord released from stone because the mane 6 broke Celestia's spell when they took away the elements? "I thought the spell we cast would contain him forever. But since Luna and I are no longer connected to the elements, the spell has been broken."(S2 E1 6:12 on Netflix)

How did discord escape? I think it's more likely that another threat, like Tirik, could have pressured Celestia into freeing Luna.

What confuses me more is: How did Sombra come back? Discord didn't bring him back to boost Twilight's confidence, so then who did? I'm starting to think Discord might be a liar, either about his intentions to help Twilight or about his responsibility for Sombra's return.


Assuming he's telling the truth, Nightmare Moon and Discord and by extension King Sombra all seem to need Celestia to loose her connection with the elements. So how does it happen?

All very confusing. Gotta hate trying to make sense of time travel.

SAWTOOTH! THIS IS AN AMATEUR THEORY BUT LISTEN: Without the sonic rainboom, Applejack probably wouldn’t go back to Ponyville, which means no mane 6, but that also means that when Applebloom didn’t want to go to Diamong Tiaras cutesineara, Applejack wouldn’t usher her to go, which ALSO means that no CMCs, and that which leads to no fighting to break discord out. (there might be flaws in this theory but it just came to me) Thank you for listening to my TED talk.

If we could only get a mini series (or a comic series?) about those timelines someday...

I liked the video, but you're wrong on two points.

First, I don't think Discord would have broke free like he did in the other timelines ; I recall Celestia explaining he was freed because the Elements of Harmony were no longer tied to the Sisters who imprisonned him, but to the Mane 6. If so, then he should have been freed another way, being the Elements getting tied to another set of Mane 6 like you said, or by mean by Celestia, or just with time.

The other point is, we're not just in parallel universes with alternate versions of events, we're in a split of timelines ; each differences between the timelines are due to the time travels. That's why Twilight and Spike end up in different timelines after each travel. So it can't be that same events just went different for no reason in two different timelines, the course of event of each timeline is unique.

Now that I'm here, I'd like to talk again about my comment on the video about the forgotten timeline, the original timeline going on without the time travelers.
I wondered, if the travelers ended up in a timeline that isn't theirs, tho identical, where are their alter egos from this timeline?
And then I realized they traveled in time too.
That means from here, the timesplit turned into a timeloop that creates timesplits. Because these Starlight, Twilight and Spike from this new timeline that is identical to the original but isn't, also created a Chrysalis timeline, a Nightmare Moon timeline, a Discord timeline (etc) and a timeline that is identical to theirs but isn't. And in this timeline too their alter egos traveled in time and created these timelines...
So from here there's an infinity of timelines created, of each outcome we saw in the series. But there still is only one original timeline missing the time travelers... And then I was dizzy thinking about it.

But more recently I thought of a solution to abort this chaos.
I think likely that great minds and sorcerers as Starlight, Twilight, Starswirl and Sunburst would come to talk about such a big thing and spot the problem, and organize an expedition through the timelines to do so the time travelers go back to their own timeline after the final travel. Their travel would then apply in a timeloop where the otherwise abandoned timeline was actually never abandoned, and....
Nevermind, I thought it more while writing and I see it actually doesn't solve the infinite loop of splits.
But hey, it's a good start!
OR ELSE
The expedition could do so the last travel actually leads to the original timeline, to create a loop where the travelers were actually always here at the rainboom in the original timeline, and the new timeline that is identical but is a separate one is not created, so there is no other timeline where Starlight, Twilight and Spike traveled in time.
There, time travel mess solved! I really hope you see this very too long comment, Sawtooth.

Thanks for reading, and sorry about mistakes, English is not my native language and we talk about seriously complex things here...

thanks sawtooth, love ur videos

i personally think it was automatic . If you have seen the series then you'll know That every strong spell a pony in power casts It only lasts for 1000 years/moons so she escaped automatically . and celestia knew that her spell would not last forever so she prepared before hand to reform her . and she also knew discord would be unleashed (automatically ) soon so she had a fifty-fifty chance neither nightmare moon and discord fight together and nightmare moon wins or discord wins either way celestia lost . but i think what celestia as going for was she reforms Luna they win against discord and the end . but her dice were against her .

What would happen if Nightmare Moon was good in this timeline making Princess Luna stronger?

Still supporting after all these years!

I like how Sawtooth waves turn a animated glitch to a lengthy video of logical explanations...

Ok Sawtooth the ‘makeshift six’ is pretty popular and i love it but which pony fits which element? Going by what they actually represent rather than singularly their personalities

Also live the fillies, colts and enby folks, makes me feel appreciated

Assuming the book was made a while before the mane six happened, nightmare mare moon would have been destined to be released, deliberate or not. The prophecy would mean that nightmare moon would've returned in every timeline, since the prophecy was already a thing before the mane six even knew about it. Unless the prophecy was only made in timelines that were destined to have the mane six🤔

I have a theory in our dimension so when Nightmare moon is trying to stop the mane 6 from reaching the old castle, she putts lots of obstacles in their way. These obstacles bring out their elements of harmony, so maybe there was some part of Luna that was still there to influence Nightmare moon's obstacles

I have always believed that Discord broke free from stone precisely because the Elements becoming attuned to new bearers weakened the prison that the old bearers had created. Given that assumption, then, it's plain to see that the Discord timeline must have happened because Celestia found a different set of ponies to use the Elements and reform Luna (after she broke free on schedule), but those ponies were later unable to deal with Discord.

I am prone to suspect that in the Nightmare Moon timeline she defeated the new Element bearers and then found a way to get rid of Discord permanently before he could break free and become a threat to her, and in other timelines Celestia just did a repeat performance of a thousand years ago and so Discord's prison remained strong. However, it is of course difficult to say with how little information we have.

Tbh, of all the alternate timelines, Nightmare Moons seemed the best to live in

I believe that Luna moved the stars to Aiden her escape, on your last video I commented that a book called the two sisters that I own in real life states that star swirl was teaching her how to move the stars, celestia I believe can move the moon why not the stars? So either Luna moved the stars, or…. Her sister did!

This theory is different from what I’m about to say from this video. So nightmare moon happened after discord turn into stone so when discord rule Equestria nightmare moon was not possible to happen. But when nightmare moon time line she rule over Equestria she defeats Celestia by using the elements of harmony against Celestia that’s why she is in the moon instead of Luna, nightmare moon must remember the elements of harmony and use it against her. Now you all will say “but she can’t use it because it will do the same with the mean 6” well no because that happens when the tree of harmony feels the opposite of what the mane 6 then it knows that they are clones and trying to steal the elements but in this time line the tree was dead well not “dead dead” it was just dead it couldn’t know who is evil or not because it doesn’t have the mane 6 harmony. Then nightmare moon rules Equestria. In the discord time line he must hid the elements of harmony that is why that didn’t defeat discord in that time.

I know this was long to read but this is just my theory I’m not saying that “oh this happened and this is true” no this is my theory

i think the "forces of good" unleashed her so she can first fight the villain in power in that time line then reform her then things will go back as it was . but in one timeline step 1 was acomplished and in all the other the plan failed completely

Discord could absolutely remove corruption magic… that dude can do whatever tf he wants

Sawtooth my man you made a huge mistake, let me explain, so in the episode when twilight goes back in time she sees discords defeat but if you look princess luna and princess celestia are there and if discord had fought back and won that would have been the discord timeline

Oh, I also have a theory. Remember how in the season 4 premiere, Twilight had to drink the potion to understand what was happening with the Everfree Forest? The way the potion worked was that each sip sent her further back in time. In the first sip, she witnessed Luna turning into Nightmare Moon, and then in the second sip, she was sent back further where she saw Princess Celestia and Luna battling Discord. If the Discord timeline was a reference to that battle and he just ended up winning it, I think that would mean Luna just never got the chance to turn into Nightmare Moon since she and Celestia lost to Discord. In the original timeline, they beat discord first, and then she turned into Nightmare Moon but in this one, she just never gets the chance because they lost first. That's if my understanding of the potion Twilight drunk is correct. Thank you for your time.

I still consider the Chessmaster Celestia headcanon to be the most likely underlying explanation; her gambit extended thru many timelines. You don't stay in power for that long for being dumb, she must've accumulated massive amounts of knowledge about how people behave, how they react to things etc, and her massive surveillance magic monitoring her little ponies "since the very first day" as she admitted and demonstrated to Twilight in the season 3 finale, assisted both in the learning as well as planning. There have been way too many coincidences; and for someone with expected more than a millennium worth of wisdom, she has demonstrated way too much apparent carelessness and hands-off'ness in situations the odds would've appeared to be against her goals and yet in the end (even if the path to the end went thru multiple time-lines), things still ended up relatively well just about always; there's not many other ways to justify all of that other than she secretly being confident the dominoes she had arranged and set in motion were gonna topple as designed. She might not be strictly omnipotent, but she certainly must be way above the power level of plenty of those that have higher raw power but not her wisdom, knowledge, and intelligence; at least considering the big picture and medium-to-long term time-spans.

I actually preferred the Nightmare Moon timeline over the Discord timeline. I mean the possibility of what can happen in these alternate worlds is endless!

Would the CMC have even broken discord out if it wasn’t for the 6 just a thought

This theory is really fitting but I don't think any type of negative magic can defeat discord like chaos, corruption, anger, or any other (for he was naturally a negative source of power), though positive magic like the elements of harmony, the princesses or maybe even the crystal heart and more can cut him out.

Tia and Luna banished discord before Luna was banished. I remember it saying that in the show. Besides in the episode of discord playing jokes on the princesses Luna was diffrent overall.

Love the video

With the makeshift mane six I think that it would have been twilight sparkles old friends from canterlot. As they would have been closer together and already good friends, so I think they would have been a much better choice. Sawtooth pls tell me what you think

“Fillies, colts, and enby folks” legitimately made me happy cry

So a ton of G5 news has just been thrown at us, and one of those pieces of news gave us a huge bombshell. There's a playset that includes a baby dragon which means dragons still exist by the time of G5, I'd be curious to see you explore where the dragons could currently be residing, how the loss of magic affected them, and whether or not that means other species could also still exist.

Whenever I see the notification that sawtooth posted a new video it just makes me heart jump

I have a theory , it's all the same timeline , there are only 2 timelines , a good and a bad , starlight just takes Twilight to different times of the same timeline and so each villian takes over the other on repeat

I always thought the discord timeline was when Discord first attacked Equestria, which was before Luna turned into nightmare moon.😀

Everything adds up, except for 1 little thing. How?? How could Discord escape?? Was Celestia wrong?! Let me explain. In the first episode of season 2 Celestia said that the spell (that hold Discord in stone) was only broken because Luna and Celestia lost connection with the elements. So I think that the theory with another "mane 6" is a lot more logical.

As other commenters have pointed out, in the original timeline, Discord's release occurs due to the elements finding new bearers, thus weakening any seals instated by the original ones. This means that in the Discord timeline, Celestia did find new bearers, just without Twilight - however, unlike the mane 6, they were not up to the challenge of Discord.

I still strongly favour the inevitable Nightmare theory. Anything else requires far more assumptions and speculation, and you already made a video about how Nightmare Moon can be overcome in one timeline - why not in all where she does not rule?

7:26 I think there is only one timeline with alternative mane 6. I think that because in
"The Return of Harmony Part 1" Celestia tells why Discord was released.
"I thought the spell we cast would keep him contained forever, but since Luna and I are no longer connected to the Elements, the spell has been broken."
"You six showed the full potential of the Elements by harnessing the magic of your friendship to beat a mighty foe. Although Luna and I once wielded the Elements, it is you who now control their power, and it is you who must defeat Discord!"
So without the use elements of harmony by ponies other than Celestia and Luna, Discord would still be a stone. Therefore, in other lines, it is not discord that rules in Equestria, but other villains. I think there is alternative mane 6 in Discord timeline but unlike the original mane 6, they failed to resist the corruption from discord.

These theory videos always give me shivers, but did you have to go there with Chrysalis? And you skittles call her mean. steals airhorn and runs off

Sawtooth will you ever do a magical power level where you compare magics ?

THE INCLUSIVE INTRO IS SO NICE! I LOVE IT!

While watching this video, I was only thinking about one incident that occurred: Nightmare Moon appearing in Starlight’s nightmare (A Royal Problem). But then again, it wasn’t real. I just like to address this, since it’s basically the only way Nightmare Moon appeared without Twilight or her friends. So, in summary, Nightmare Moon in Starlight’s nightmare isn’t real, because it was a dream. Therefore, it should be excluded.

The intro in the beginning just made me way too happy

I wonder what if in the alternative timelines could the mane 6 that we know of still be reunited

I am wondering if all the alternate timelines were actually the same one. Since Starlight unleashed a time spell, Twilight and Spike could've returned to the same timeline again and again, but just at different points in that timeline. Another thing I would like to see is how each of the villains could've played off each other.

Here is another video that tries to explain how each timeline came to be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfLM4gLikg0

These theories can have your head hurting but I love them anyway 👍

In the Discord timeline, was Luna ever Nightmare Moon?
Everyone assumes that breaking the Rainboom changes the future, but maybe it just opens a timeline where Celestia and Luna never defeated Discord in the first place.

So I don't know time lines well but couldn't this scenario predate the Statue event? Like what if Luna didn't need to be reformed in the first place because the sisters were to busy having to live with a version of Discord that they could not stop so there wouldn't be a main 6 either because the world would probably to out of order to allow it or something I don't know it's just a thought.

Another awesome video, sawtooth waves!

What's interesting is that G1 and G4 are very close to each other to the point that stuff can leak from one to the other. So what if in the nightmare moon timeline the rainbow of darkness leaked into equestria (this also means that the rainbow of light will never be at full power.).

I really like your theories. It makes it seam like the people that made My little pony really put some thought into it, It’s interesting.

Personally I think she never even turned into nightmare moon, Discord probably invaded before she had the chance to turn evil.

Great job this week sawtooth. Im not sure about an answer but yours sounds pretty good

I love this video so much!

0:15 - 0:18
"Phillies, colts, and enby folks"
WE STAND SAWTOOTH FOR THAT <3

In my opinion Discord with how evil he was (Misunderstood?) I feel like Celestia and Luna would be basically useless in the show. I mean they hardly did anything besides give guidance to Twilight and her friends but what I'm trying to say is Discord balances out the Mane 6 and Celestia and Luna in a way. I feel that without Discord the show would be in limbo because the show is called Friendship is magic and Twilight, Applejack, Rarity, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, and Fluttershy all played a part in turning one of the show's villans into a friend of theirs. Also Discord is the embodiment of chaos itself. It only makes sense (At least to me) that he can remove corruption and bend it to his will. Also not including Twilight, Discord is the strongest in Equestria.

There’s also the possibility that celestial was able to just put her back into the moon

my theory is that stars are the souls of dead ponies, the brightest stars are the most important ponies, and so the stars aiding in her escape was some of the most important ponies in history helping her to be reformed by the elements :)

I think that Nightmare moon's banishment was a time limited spell (like the royal sisters cutie mark change by Starlight just longer).This would mean that she returned in every timeline. Also when Discord returned Celestia said "I thought the spell we cast would keep him contained forever but since Luna and I are no longer connected to the elements the spell has been broken" and "although Luna and I once wielded the elements it is you who now control their power". I think it means that Discord would only return if someone other than princesses started controling the elements for example reforming Nightmare moon and that's why she was Luna in Discord's timeline. That is just my interpretation.
I also want to say that you are fantastic and your ideas are great.

Sawtooth… you have an “alternate timelines” problem

This "alternative" time-line is the PAST Twilight drank a potion given to her by Zecora

Y'know, I was wondering... Chrysalis and Thorax both have incect-related names. Was Sawtooth named by their parent or did they come up with the name themself?

In season 4's first 2 episodes we see that the discord attack happened before the main six were born and so in season 2 when discord returns that would have happened after the rainboom and again in season 4 we learn that the discord attack happened before nightmare moon so in a world full of chaos luna would'nt feel the way she was when she turned into nightmare moon, and I rest my case.

I actually like this better than the other idea I had for these timelines.

That's a great theory, even if it's only based on something we see in a world of pure chaos. This Luna may be an illusion made by Discord to mess with Celestia

Have you ever read the fanfic “wrong place at the right time” by little Jackie papercut on fimfiction? The basic premise was that prior to the summer sun celebration daring doo took the elements of harmony from the ever free forest to a museum in manehatten and when nightmare moon was released the ponies that ended up representing the elements were aunt orange, octavia, daring doo, blossom forth, trixie, and twilight sparkle, who was there because the celebration was happening in manehatten instead in this au.

It is possible that Celestia knew that Nightmare Moon would be freed regardless. I think that Celestia knew that Twilight and her friends have the ability to be powerful, so then, because of that, Celestia didn't free Nightmare Moon herself. Nightmare Moon would be released either way, but since there's no Mane 6, Celestia herself reformed Luna.

This is completely unrelated but I think if they ever had made Sombra become good in g4 Princess Luna definitely would have been the perfect pony to reform him,
she knows what it feels like to feel un appreciated and long for more power, as well as of course they both turned evil. She could help to teach Sombra what she used to not realise, they were loved and appreciated by ponies by just being them and their jobs were still very special.
Plus their aesthetics kinda match as they both link to darkness and the night, and powerful mysterious magic.

What if though, the elements of harmony just set a 1,000 year timer for when Nightmare Moon would escape?

i also wonder in the alternative universes how come luna wasn’t the only ruler to take over or the first one seen i could understand another villain defeating her but NMM shows up later on even though she was the first antagonist

um actually bringing discord to theories is very tricky, remember that he can snap his fingers and all the reality can change.
Nightmare moon can be hypnotize, tirek can be neutralized before he'll grow ect.
villains always need the element of surprise to defeat him

Hi this might not be related to the topic of this video but I just wanted to share this theory I thought of btw I might be wrong this is just something I thought of btw if doesent make sense I’m sorry: I just had a theory and I hope you listen : in the episode where twilight is crowned a alicorn when twilight walks across to princess Celestia but when twilight sparkle stood in front of celestia celestia said something like : twilight has proven herself worthy, challenge after challenge twillight has proven she has to take on new types of challenges today twilight has invented a new type of magic (friendship)” ( the theory of celestia and Luna not being allicorns until they raised the sun/ moon proved that they were worthy because they had the power to raise the sun and moon because when the unicorns (not Celestia or Luna) had to raise the moon and sun there energy was drained but celestia and Luna were fine proving they are worthy and good for leaders of equestria but twilight invented new magic (friendship) proving she is worthy of being a princess/ allicorn and Candace spreaded love everywhere she went proving she was also ready and that she was a good ruler for the Chrystal empire cause what protected the Chrystal empire was love and Princess Candance magic was love, proving she was worthy to be a princess (princess= alicorn | I know this doesent prove why flurry heart is a alicorn but the fact that she’s called flurry heart and not princess flurry heart just says that she will have to prove herself worthy and maybe when she does she will be the ruler of the crystal empire

I hope you consider these theories and I’m very sorry for anything that was not spelled correctly and I also apologised for the awful grammar and punctuation



Oh and also I have a theory how Luna turned into nightmare moon / how you could turn evil as a allicorn And I’ll tell you now:

So basically in the sun and moon problem (the episode is called Princsss Twilight Sparkle ) we saw when twillight drank the potion she saw that Luna raised the moon over the sun even tho it wasent meant to be night so basically what Luna did was do the opposite of her duty so if celestia put the sun over the moon I’m thinking she would turn into day breaker (of course you might say to me Luna was jealous so if celestia put the sun over the moon without feeling jealous it might not work well guess what that’s a great reason but the only reason why Luna raised the moon over the sun was because she was mad / jealous causing her to turn into nightmare moon so I’m thinking if cadence / twillight / celestia did the opposite of their duty they would turn into evil ponies

Sorry again for bad punctuation grammar or spelling and your welcome to have other theories I respect them but this is a theory I thought of (also if you thought about this too dont get mad I’m not claiming the theory but I don’t know anyone who has thought of this and I so happened to think of this theory

Btw this is just a theory I could be wrong😅

OMG ! I never thought about it till you made this video ! Thanks Sawtooth !

You need to do a video for all of the timelines! I adore the idea of an exploration of how each villain came out on top of the others!

In the discord timeline she wasbt freed, discord took em right when they met the first time

Well, discord could only escape the statue form because the mane six took over the elements of harmony.
So the fact that discord would be free with out the rainbow doesn’t really make much sense 🤷🏼‍♀️

Nightmare Moon was freed by four imps who were assigned by the head imp to go to the moon and free her. Discord was freed by a fight between Applebloom and Diamond Tiara but an imp named Handy Dandy censored the story believing that it was the CMC fighting that released him. Chrysalis came to Cantarlot and crashed the wedding just as the head imp predicted. Tirek was released by Illy the imp. So I think it was the imps behind everything.

episode 1, season 2. "The Return of Harmony Part 1" time: 5:45

You guys just didn't notice that Discord's timeline starts with Princess Celestia and Luna's reign. Meaning she hadn't been banished to the moon yet. Sorry for spoiling the fun, but there was no possible timeline where Luna and discord fight.

It then came down to the legendary cutie mark crusadars to refrom Nightmare,which they did ever so effortlessly.Alas like all the greats they too fell to the foul beast discord ,and now and rotting away in the statue gardens where they fred disscord himself.A tragic tale.

I honestly dont think Nightmare moon or Luna were evil ever
Luna started Nightmare moon out of jealousy and hatred but before that she never harmed her sister she just became bitter
Then when she used a powerful probably Alicorn magic spell on herself aka nightmare moon things got out of hand
Instead of only making night eternal she’s gone haywire and then her other personality became her only personality
Nightmare moon
I think thats why Celestia had to ban her sister
It was a fresh spell casted by Luna herself and Luna is very powerful
So even if Celestia wanted she probably couldn’t remove the spell
I’d be too damaging to Luna since again it was freshly attached to her and Nightmare moon is like a virus in my opinion
Cursing the one who casted the spell and feeding of their power
But because she was banned for 1K year Nightmare couldn’t like do a lot of evil
But Luna herself has already been weakened greatly
So after years of being banned
The mane 6 could bring her back with the magic
One pony cant do such a feat
A banning spell could destroy the elements but ig if casted by an Alicorn and send to a habitat its less risky for Celestia
After that when Nightmare was ripped from Luna we saw that she looked like a foal again
No flowing hair
She looked like a younger self
Less powerful
And back to her emotions and being vulnerable

Better idea, there was no corruption magic, as it was never mentioned in the show. Exept in the Nightmare Moon time line, Luna simple snaped out of her childish temper tantrum. Meaning the Mane 6 were never needed to deal with her and the sisters bested all other villains before the one victorious.

I just realized.. In the barren timeline... That might have been when starlight succeeded in removing all cutie marks from equestria INCLUDING the royal sisters, which blows up in her face..
Either A. no pony is able to raise/lower the moon/sun leading to things just dying overtime.
Or B. The collected marks in one place cause a sort of magic EXPLOSION that destroyed everything on the planet.

if the forces of good had some kind of foresight and realised “oh heck, we need to bail out nightmare moon now” why wouldnt they have predicted any other villian

How would Discord be free though? The Cutie Mark Crusaders were the reason he was able to break free and I don’t think the CMC would have met without the mane 6 so I think there may be another way he broke free 😟

My theory is that Celestia COULD use the Elements, but she chose to bring about new users because the fall of Luna showed a flaw In only having two users. There is also the detrimental effects of such a large serge of magic in a single being, even an Alicorn.

Actually Luna became nightmare moon After Discord ,as it's shown in one episode before the mane 6 were ever born

Celstia and Luna were working Togehter in order to defeat Discord , Luna and Celsetia Ruled Together for a really ling time before night mate moon came which was after discord

i personally dont think the cutie mark crusaders would become friends without the mane six being friends, but discord would break out of stone at some point anyways or if the cmc cutie marks are destiny, then probably they would become friends. but in the main timeline it could be destiny, but in another its not? idk theres so many possibilities

It's gotta suck to be living in a world that's going from chaotic to eternal darkness to infested with huge bugs.

I like that but I’m sorry, there’s no way nightmare moon has any ability to defeat discord. She’s hella weak lol

Everyone minding their own business:

Sawtooth waves: “Illuminati confirmed, nightmare moons a time traveler, there was a disaster in an alternate timeline, dr who has died before-“

Us: “done?”

Sawtooth waves: “only halfway through”

I just always assumed that scene happened back before she was corrupted. Alternatively, maybe she never got corrupted, perhaps because the sisters never defeated Discord.

I’m just thinking of another possibility, but, I remember that sawtooth made that one video explaining how grogar was the tars that aided in nightmare moon’s escape








Imagine if grogar just let nightmare moon free just for an epic showdown

A genius doesn’t always find the right theory. But he asks the right questions; thereby advancing the rest of us so we may find the right theory after all. I love your videos, keep them coming!

I think the Makeshift Six is an interesting and funny suggestion but maybe we don’t need them. Discord being freed from his stone prison by a change of ownership of the elements of harmony is not entirely consistent I believe. Celestia and Luna used these elements to petrify Discord and later Celestia used the elements to imprison Luna in/ on the Moon. Magic is driven by friendship, love and probably the sisterly bond between the Princesses. Celestia using the elements against Luna is certainly breaking their bond. Wouldn’t that weaken the magic they used against Discord? Furthermore, if transferring the elements to the Mane Six lead to Discord breaking out of his cage, why didn’t it happen right away in season 1?

So Discord breaking free can’t have been directly related to the transfer of the elements of harmony. The first Discord episode suggests that disharmony in close vicinity to Discord – the fight of the CMC – weakened his cage. In another timeline, this weakening may not have happened at all or may have been caused by another event. It may even have happened before the ‘scheduled’ release of Luna.

So what if Discord was ‘out’ before Luna and there were no Mane Six to fight him? I imagine Celestia may have been desperate enough to free Luna prematurely, reform her by … simply forgiving her and ask her to join her using the elements against Discord as they did before. Discord didn’t seem to know the elements the first time he was caged, but now that the element of surprise is gone, the match may be more even. Celestia's attempt may have failed. I presume that in the absence of the Mane Six, Discord is a greater thread than Nightmare Moon.

One may ask why Celestia released Discord in ‘Keep Calm and Flutter On’ to let Twilight and her friends try to reform him if he is an enemy with such great powers. Likewise, why did she disappear during the release of Nightmare Moon when Celestia could have foreseen this event? I guess Celestia recognises – or maybe gambles – on the power of the Mane Six being greater than that of both enemies.
I always believed that Celestia has been moulding Twilight into her role of successor from the very start. So Celestia consciously put Twilight to the test so she could develop her powers on her own. This means that in the Mane timeline it was safe for her to stand by idly while Nightmare Moon and Discord wreaked havoc. But in an alternative timeline – without the Mane Six – she needed to prioritise and thus reached out to Luna in an attempt to beat Discord.

Y'know what I think would be an interesting topic to consider? Here it is:
What would've happened to the Villain Statue? What happened to the villains trapped inside? Would their magic be as equally drained as from the ponies? And, if most magic had faded, what would be keeping the statue in place (if it's still in place at all)? Not to mention the other species.
Just think, Sawtooth: What would've happened to Thorax and our- cough the changeling queen?

it's more then a linear path, it's and endless prison, of endless possibilities, where one decision can branch out into new realities

Actually, Celestia had reformed Luna but in the real timeline, Celestia just wanted them to start starting friendships and a pony of friendship forms as they became best friends after the fight

Celestia and Luna had to deal with Discord way before the Mane 6 were around. He run amuck and they the 2 sisters found the elements and used them to defeat him, turn him to stone. That is in the past, just as the flashbacks prove in S4 finale. This was before Luna turned into Nightmare moon and was banished.

6:55 i think this is true but a twist so after celestia vanised luna to the moon she still got rid of the elements of harmony a long long time after i think in this time line she did not got rid of it so it could been her self who free her and she fought but lost

Sawtooth waves named all the possibilities on how nightmare moon was freed but it is a possibility that luna never turned into nightmare moon and never had to reform and never got banished.

This needs a Part 2

Tbh the theory of all the AUs being gauntlets between all the villains and the one who wins being the primary conflict of that au is interesting, as it could explain the final world that Twi and Starlight enter, a world possibly destroyed by the war between the villains where no villain came on top...

Now I'm waiting for another video titled "How did Discord break out without The Cutie Mark Crusaders"


What you think he just happened to break out at the exact same time the CMC's were being chaotic?

Celestia does at one point in the show say that she is capable of handling a lot of the things she sends Twilight to fix... she just sends Twilight and her friends because she's training Twilight to take her place.

I’m confused, Didn’t Discord break out cuz Princess Celestia wasn’t connected to the elements before? Then how would he have broken out in the first place?

Celestia released nightmare moon herself as a “test” for the mane 6 (but mainly Twilight and her becoming a princess) . Lauren Faust has suggested this on her Twitter before.

i have(* I think) the best theory how this all was possible and it makes ton of sense

Is that what DJ looks like without her glasses? Also I completely forgot that she was a unicorn, I always thought she was an earth pony.

What would have happened if we saw Spike helping Luna fitting in Equestria after being free from Nightmare Moon since they're both outcasts among the other ponies? Do you think they could have been best friends?

Maybe when discord planted the seeds they grown faster so he could take down both princess celestial and Luna before Luna turned into nightmare moon

Chrysalis was also the only one who almost got defeated by their rival (Starllight) in the mane timeline. Tirek wipe the floor with the pillars and the mane six + the sisters didn't really do much against cozyglow.

so this is probably unlikely but what if there wasn't actually 7 different outcomes because of the mane 6 never coming together, but instead only one different outcome?

like think about it for a second, the scrole starlight used was created to time travel- sure, technically what we saw was multiple different events that would have happend if the rainboom didn't happen-
but what if instead of them being different outcomes they were actually just different points in time so like in the end when we see that gray waste-land it was what would have happened EVENTUALLY if all the villains got to rule at some point in time in the SAME timeline! :0

(does any of this make sense to anyone?) :^

I don’t think Luna returned just bc the mane 6 were now ready to deal with her. It was simply that her 1000 years were over. She would’ve come back to earth, whether or not the mane 6 were there.

Hi first yes she can reformed without Mane 6 and elements of harmony and it beacuse of love warm heart she was just jealous but if she found out how much her sister loved her she can reformed

Well thinking about all the things I have heard this dose get confusing. Although I hear a lot that it was Celestia that frees Nightmare Moon. Now the only issue I see with Discord losing to Nightmare Moon is that Discord pretended to be injured from King Sombra. So even if he was "Defeated" by Nightmare Moon I'm sure he had a backup plan. As for removing the corruption... well I go to the comics for help there. Now I know that there non Canon to the show but it explains so much more on Nightmare Moon and Lunas transformation into her other form. The corruption called "The Nightmare Force" in my book that it was made by him. If he couldn't remove it would make sense if it merged with Princesses Lunas alicorn magic completely. Were the elements could separate it almost completely leaving the black mark as a stain on her flank. But once again were in question able waters there. Although I always love alternate time line talk. Makes more questions and chaotic stories.

But what if each timeline has the main six in them and maybe some failed and others didn't or maybe some just didn't do anything?

How was discord even free in any timeline because as I remember when discord was free in the original timeline it was because Celestia and Luna had lost connection with the elements of harmony when the main six took over as Celestia said herself. So there was literally no way discord could have been freed unless some freed him on purpose. But no one would possibly do that or can do that except Celestia

Why would Discord feel the need to reform NightmareMoon? 2 alicorns can't do much against Discord without elements of harmony, that's how alicorn sisters beat him in the 1st place. But as Nightmaremoon Luna can't use elements

I was waiting for a reason to not do more science homework and your video was uploaded. Thank you 😌✨

How was Nightmare-moon release and how was she reformed?

I honestly can’t answer that, let alone make a theory about it, since the show has ended, so your theory is better than my (which means I have no theory since there is little to no evidence to start thinking about a theory to type about).

I find a Mainshift Six reforming Princess Luna Theory is unlikeliest I think the Mixup timeline battle Between nightmare Moon and discord is more likely Because discord must be able To you remove corruption magic, No reason to think he can But there’s also no reason to think he can’t It’s all depends how discord abilities work Which will never know. Or will we? ;)

I love your channel

I think there are only two time lines. One where starlight and twilight are fighting ans the other where there are the villains who took over equestria. As said around 6:20 I believe that twilight was time traveling between the two lines rather than going through several alternate universes. It goes like this that once a villain took over after starlight stopped the rainboom then twilight goes to that time line where the villain is come back and fights starlight and as she fails to fight her she taken to another time in the same other time line where the villains are but this time the first villain is defeated by the other. So like Twilight and Starlight fight then Twilight goes to the othe time line where there is discord comes back goes there again but now there is nightmare moon comes back again goes there but now there is chrysalis comes back goes there again but now there is sombra. Maybe that's how the time line works.

Funny thing im doing math homework rn (I have a lot) now I have a reason to stop 😄

Luna was reformed without The mane 6
I think because he has night magic, we already know that without night, we might get hot and our skin will get sunburned if the sun goes out because it's always daytime.
So when the night comes, we don't have to worry about going out of the house to be afraid of being exposed to the hot sun which burns our skin and the air is colder

Dus see how adorable Sawtooth wave the character actor looks

"Fillies, colts and non binary folks"
I like that line ^~^

The creators making something in peace for an episode:
Sawtooth: IMA RUIN THIS MANS CAREER

What about a theory about apple jack parents
What happened to them
Because granny Smith still lived

Sawtooth, I wonder, do you use comics mlp information for your videos? I just haven't noticed any time you mention events happening there. I always thought comics were canon so their information might be useful in some theories!

Thank you for making amazing video!!!

Think about it.... Discord could have freed Nightmare Moon even if he can't remove chaos magic, because he stole the elements of harmony which was used to trap her in the moon in the first place.

"Phillies, colts, and enby folks"
what kind of poetry genius-

Second

It is possible the normal discord was manipulating the timeline and was aware of twilight’s reality hoping and added a timeline where he won.

I'd imagine nightmare moon would not have enough time or luxury (in that discord timeline) to be corrupted by that magic that made her nightmare. So she reverts to just luna and partners with her sister against a common enemy. Then the split can happen of who wins the fight. If the sisters win, Celestia is too tired from fighting discord to contain or banish luna again and luna goes all nightmare again, thus making the nightmare timeline!!

Discord would not have been freed from stone without the mane 6. We know this because in the episode The return of harmony Part 1 Celestia says this: I thought the spell we cast would keep him contained forever but since Luna and I are no longer connected to the elements the spell has been broken.
This means that without the Mane 6 Discord would not have been liberated and Celestia would not have liberated Luna in order to defeat Discord. Nor had it been logical that the enchantment was broken just because Luna became corrupt. Otherwise, Discord would have broken loose a millennium ago, but he did not, which means that Luna still had a connection to the elements. If Celestia had brought together a makeshift 6, the link between the princesses would still have been broken, which is the only way out I see in this dilemma, but it is also not certain that it would have been possible to bring together a makeshift 6 because there may not be another group that could have represented the elements. But we do not know. What we do know is that Discord would not have been liberated without someone or someone taking over the link between the elements of harmony and the princesses.

The Queen of the Changelings burn got me! 😂

I'm not sure if you've already covered this yet, but who made the Nightmare Moon prophecy/myth?
As far as we know, there are no future-seers(I guess other than Starlight?). Celestia couldn't have been the one who made it, because she wouldn't have known the exact day she found the new wielders of the Element. Perhaps a unicorn with extremely powerful magic could have seen the future, like Starswirl. But Starswirl was trapped in Tartarus even before Luna became Nightmare Moon.
So who made the prophecy?

I Think l've Liked Your Explanation About Discord Freeing Nightmare In One Timeline, And Celestia Another.

I don't buy any of the "deliberately released by voluntary action" theories on Nightmare Moon. While it's possible the "prophecy" was just Celestia telling ponies what it was she had planned, I don't think she'd have mythologized it quite that way. Moreover, the very specific day and time mentioned doesn't make sense if Celestia was counting on something like "the Mane Six" to become the Bearers of the Elements of Harmony. The prophecy would've been more about a quest to find the elements or something, with no particular timing, just "signs" that Nightmare Moon was "soon to return."

The very specific timing suggests to me that the spell's known weaknesses or duration would come about at that time. If Celestia made a choice, it was when she banished Nightmare Moon, not when Nightmare Moon was released. Once that decision was made, Nightmare Moon's release was scheduled as if on a time-release vault. Celestia's plan was to try to find bearers for the Elements of Harmony before then, and Twilight was her last hope at assembling it. That ran right up to the wire.

No, I think a more likely "desperate move" scenario might've been Celestia's followers realizing that Nightmare Moon was too much to handle, and, looking for some power to stop her now that Celestia was banished to the Sun, accidentally or purposely released Discord. Maybe he couldn't handle Nightmare Moon on his own and freed Celestia, or maybe he could and just decided that he wanted his playthings back and brought Celestia and Luna out to torment.

I think that:
In the timelines that the mane six weren't there we see that one villain rules in one timeline but that can't be possible unless all the villain have an equal chance to rule meaning equal power. Why do some need to be put in Tartarus and some not if they're all equal power. And I'm talking about power not strength. Cozy glow has no strength but alot of power. Tirek has strength. So basically all the villians have equal power

And how did Nightmare Moon defeat Discord without the Elements of Harmony?
...or Chrysalis' Throne
...or Grogar's Bell

Celestia cant control the stars but the elements of harmony can free nightmare moon

I assumed maybe Luna would have been reformed "by force", just by using the elements of harmony or something... But it still doesn't reform her "mentally", she's still upset that Celestia has the nice role, so if Celestia beats Luna, it just adds to the frustration. That's why Celestia wanted to give it to other ponies. Maybe that timeline's Luna didn't go back to NM form, because she had Discord to deal with, and yet it doesn't make it less likely for her to blow a fuse eventually.

Maybe Celestia is the one who triggered the freedom of Nightmare Moon, then imo she just tried during the latest 1000 years to find a solution so that it doesn't build frustration in Luna, and she gave herself an ultimatum: if she didn't come with a better solution in 1000 years, she'd freed her anyway. And for an eternal being like a princess, it's maybe not so bad to be on time out to cool the emotions, maybe at least that's what Celestia thought.


For the idea that a villain took over equestria, then a more powerful one just punched them too hard and so on, that is how I pictured the events. By the way, in our timeline Tirek got free because of that day Twilight was warned by her future self, right? Then in the one where Tirek won I suppose it could have been that Tirek got free and just had to tiptoe behind Discord and suck all his magic. The rest was a piece of cake.


Also! Have you noticed that Discord timeline has Luna in her "full potential mode", not the smaller version with non-flowing mane? I mean, yes, that alternate present is supposed to be as late as Starlight's vengeance, which means Discord has been freed since "season 2", so a couple years ago. I guess it does leave Luna time to get as strong.

I figure that the explanation could be as simple as "Discord did it". But what fun is that? I think I could make it a little more interesting. (Also, I think Nightmare Moon was freed in each timeline, since the prophecy preexists the Sonic Rainboom.)

Nightmare Moon was freed like in the original. But without the Elements of Harmony to battle her, Celestia wasn't freed and Nightmare Moon ruled. It starts out similarly to how the Nightmare Moon timeline would've. In fact, it's identical to the Nightmare Moon timeline...up until Discord's release. In the Nightmare Moon timeline, either Nightmare Moon won against Discord, or Discord was never freed.

In the Discord timeline, Nightmare Moon was smart enough to know that she couldn't take on Discord. At least not alone. My idea is similar to yours, just with a role reversal. Nightmare Moon released Celestia from the moon. Either that, or after Discord returned Nightmare Moon to Luna, the magic sealing Celestia in the moon was broken. Or maybe it was Discord himself who freed Celestia for another play thing. But let's go with Nightmare Moon freeing Celestia.

Nightmare and Celestia have to work together to defeat Discord... and that's the problem. Their inability to agree with each other is what allowed Discord to remove Luna's corruption. In doing so, it also took away any power she had that could give them the advantage.

Here's where another timeline split happens. In another timeline, Nightmare Moon and Celestia win. Afterwords, Celestia says how they should rule together as equals. This touches Nightmare Moon's Heart, returning her to Luna. Perhaps it could take some time. It's in this split that the Sombra timeline happens. I skip Chrysalis because I think that the two sisters are better prepared for the attack. Chrysalis's timeline would happen in another Nightmare Moon timeline where Discord just never returns. The only difference between the Nightmare Moon timeline and the Chrysalis timeline is that in one, they face off and Nightmare Moon wins. In the other, Nightmare Moon and Chrysalis come to an agreement, meaning that the Chrysalis timeline also exists during The Eternal Night. Or Chrysalis and Nightmare Moon just never came face to face.

The Flim Flam Brothers timeline is probably just identical to the Sombra timeline just with Flim and Flam running Sweet Apple Acres.

And I'm gonna say that the Tirek timeline exists in a Sombra timeline. In the Nightmare Moon timeline, and by extension, the Chrsyalis timeline, they were able to stop Tirek before he became a danger. This can also apply to any of the other non-Tirek timelines. The reason why I place him in a Sombra timeline is because the war could help keep everyone distracted in order to let Tirek acquire the magic he needs. Alternatively, he could exist in a Discord timeline where he teamed up with Discord before betraying him.

It occurs to me that there are so many possible outcomes that there are plenty of other timelines that were created that we never saw.

I mean there can always be another main six, others that can be chosen, celestia I’m sure could reform her but I don’t know and like the ideas, unless the discord battle was before luna became nightmare moon because the sisters turned him to stone prior to luna changing

Sawtooth:Let’s explore this scenario
Natures own: YOUR FANCY NOW

Wait, I need someone to explain this. Princess Celestia and Luna have magical hair, in which it moves, unlike other ponies. And we know that your not born with it, as seen with reformed Luna in S1 E1. Basically, without their magic, their hair won't move. But we don't see the same thing with Cadance, but we do with Twilight. And one of the Old Pillars, who isn't an alicorn or royal related, has the same magical hair like the princesses. Can someone please explain? Thanks

Love how Derpy wears the crown.

Recently I was thinking about the everfree/chrylis/forest timeline like what happened to the ponies and how they found zecora. I think it went wrong in The canterlot wedding if that's how you spell it

I don't think Nightmare Moon would have the power to defeat Discord. Celestia coudn't. What does Nightmare Moon have that would outdo the spirit of chaos?

Also, I assumed all the timelines involved Nightmare Moon escaping but being defeated in most timelines except her own.

i think luna was nightmare moon after discord because the potion twilight drinks shows luna and celestia finding the elements on the tree while and even kinda states this in the episode and when celestia got the elements they were there as if they stored them after the defeat of discord. also one more thing when zecora gives twilight the potion im pretty sure she says to look in further into the past of course if she was defeated before discord she would be stuck in the moon but thats all

If Nightmare Moon was a natural event, Celestia would have either postpone it or let it happen.

If she let it happened, the disharmony of her and NmM fighting would have led Duscord out and seeing them fight. He sees the way Luna is acting and changes her back so they can all "have fun together."

If it was postponed, Celestia might have to face Discord on her own before being too weak or even worst, Discirdrd. Making her apathetic, she brings back NmM so she can handle him, catching Discord of guard, and the apathy make it so NmM could handle her with ease.

Don’t worry, I’ll watch the G5 stuff once when the dvd releases.😉

dawg i’ve been watching you since i was like 8 and i’m 17 now 😭 thank u sm for raising me 🗣☹️💜

Maybe the stars helped her escape and seeing her home like that made her reform herself

Hey Sawtooth, could you make a theory about the Fluttershy's sharp tooth at the end of the Bats episode and the figure at the end of the Castle Mane-ia episode (if you haven't allredy)?

i can’t remember if luna became nightmare moon before or after discord took over, but if he did take over before her transformation that timeline might make some sense? who knows

Wait, didn’t the sisters end Discord’s rule and THEN start their own?

I just realized that discord broke free from his prison because the main six wheeled the elements in the present day. But if there were no main six to wheel the elements, then Celestia would still wheel the elements dust discord hypothetically should still be trapped.

The reason why Celestia could not use the Elements againist Nightmare Moon is explained via "Return of Harmony".

She and Luna are no longer connected to the Elements.

What if in the discord timeline Luna never turned into Nightmare Moon. The two sisters originally turned him to stone when he 1st tried to take over, what if instead of them turning him to stone the 1st time. What if he found a way to defeat them, making the alternate timeline we see with Discord? If this was the case Luna never would of turned into Nightmare Moon because they never became the rulers.

The discord timeline could be explained by discord never being imprisoned. Because Celestia and Luna fought him together if my memory serves me right and maybe they just lost

I love this theory. And Also Discord is my favorite character so if this is true it makes him way more awesome!!!!

in the alternate timeline when the alternate mane 6 failed, they failed because derpy did not aim the rainbow beam

what if celestia didn't know she could take on nightmare moon by herself and realized it in the moment of truth
or maybe discord defeated nightmare moon or even brought her just for fun
what do u think about that?

Discord and Nightmare Moon prove evenly matched and threaten to destroy Equestria between them. In desperation, Celestia unleashes her full power upon them to stop them. She loses control and burns the world in her attempt to save it. She falls into a despair, anguish, and rage, thus creating the Scorched Timeline. Or, more properly, the Daybreaker Timeline.

Watch "Its about time" (s2e20)
Pay attention to the clocks and the number of days in Equestrias month, and how Twilight only plans out 2 months at a time (one for luna, one for celestia)
Twilight would know she's about to read the "brief history of canterlot" and "the art of invisibility" and then have 30 minutes of free time. Rather than wait for herself to have both of those since she knew she didn't hear everything, she instead returns to the same moment-- creating a stable time loop.
I do not believe she used a 'time travel spell", she used a dimension hopping spell. She just returned to a similar world as her own. (hence why she now, suddenly has a brother 5 episodes later, and there's a 3rd princess we never heard of).
S2 E20 is a heard breakoff point for all such things.
So, at the end of S5, Starlight Glimmer proceeds to just do the same thing. In these worlds we see all the "bad outcomes" but we don't know fully about this. It's totally possible Rainbow Dash could have pulled off the rainboom later, and we just got a similar, or different, set of any mane six outcomes. Twilight just only sees the bad ones because they're the only "timelines" (Dimensions) similar to hers she can jump back to.

Because of S5's ending, we have a clean break before the mane six ever meet-- making literally any equestrian story set when the mane six are children basically completely possible (In fact some of the timelines are downright ripped from fanfictions, or close to them.) Meanwhile, S2E20 provides us another clean break, although this one almost certainly leads to Equestria's that are going smoothy because twilight's just ensured the same events happen, and that similar dimensions are returned to. It might not always go well but it's going to go a lot better than an unstable loop Starlight was making in S5.

Because of this anything that doesn't completely redefine Equestria more than however old the mane six are (even if they are all 18 when they meet which i doubt) , that's still over a decade for anything to happen and you to tell any kind of story, it's totally supported by what is present just within the first 5 seasons of the show, and indeed, as long as you keep S2 E19 and before in mind, any outcome is possible from there too.

Equestria is a dangerous place. It has a spell that allows it to splinter itself into an impossible number of timelines that even with the exactly same values produce incredibly different worlds. We can't even be sure if going back and doing nothing doesn't radically alter the like dimension they can return to, because you've already breathed in air, or maybe somepony saw you randomly but didn't think much of it.

Sadly, if Twilight HAD decided to worry about the future and not live in the present, she might have been able to limit the damage done, at the very worst everything would remain the same. She's literally cursed (blessed?) the world with infinite equestrias, and now starlight does the same later. Where does this end? how far back are other unicorns going to go? creating new dimensions, new points in time? Sweetie Belle creates rarity coffee without a single coffee plant in all of equestria at that time (burnt juice = roast coffee). She did that with kitchen utensils and some time. How far back is she going to go? What about Luster Dawn? how far back will she go?
Well, now we have g5, so perhaps, to the very beginning. Maybe ponies are true masters of reality for themselves, and they can change quite a lot.

It's definitely a longshot when Derpy is involved.

I thought that the princesses going up against Discord happened before Luna became Nightmare Moon. Therefore still being herself in the Discord timeline because it’s before she turned.

Our time line celestia new she had a good group of ponies ponies who were ready to protect one another under any circumstances so she purposefully let her out and then went somewhere else when nightmare moon was released like how luna just disappears for no reason I say she went somewhere else because the way she "returned" is just like how she and twilight came from that other place where twilight became an alicorn

2 things
we don't know for sure if Nightmare moon was really the one who Banished her sister,,,it is the most likely explanation bur not the only one
same with the discord timeline
alot of things are off in each one so maybe Tirek broke free and did what he dose defeating the others but this time Discord isn't made stupid for plot convenience?
thus he tosses Tirek back into Tartarus before he can suck Discord's magic out.
this also explains the timeline where Tirek wins either Disord never got free or when he did he got the magic sucked out.

In our timeline Discord was still alive within the prison of stone could he be the one who released Luna considering if he was still in stone he was able to use magic

since you are talking about alternate timelines again I think that Cozy Glow’s motivation was hearing about Sunset Shimmer taking over and got inspired but she only heard about it in the school of Friendship and that is why there was no Cozy timeline

There’s an alternative timeline where she was never nightmare moon

I'm just wondering, luna wasn't reformed without the mane six because when discord took over they were younger than when luna was even transformed into nightmare moon therefore nothing went wrong and luna was never reformed. The real question is, how did luna take over equestria?

i mean hes the spirit of chaos its kinda obvios

Y'know, I just noticed. It's Discordant Harmony we see that when Discord doesn't use chaos magic, he starts to fade away. But what about the times when he's not able to use magic at all, like in the changeling hive or when his magic is sealed in the bell or eaten by Tirek? He seems fine, just powerless. Does this fading rely on the fact that he HAS the magic and just isn't using it?

Discord was released because chaos was around his rock form so let's say that discord was released and wanted to take revenge the fun way he probably would want to get back at the sisters by making the rest of their lives miserable so he released nightmaremoon and watched her cause chaos and torment her sister but discord got bored so he turned Luna back and decided to see how long they can run for. For nightmaremoon's take over she possibly was released by the stars and decided to be sneaky and threatened someone to get rid of discord's rock form so there where no accidents in her takeover after he was disposed of she got to work on her takeover and was successful in doing so.

notice how her hair changed now she has wavy hair she is powerful like celestia and celestia banished her for a year and she freed her self and came back as reformed

What if there could be an alternate timeline in which cozy glows plan of getting rid of all the magic worked

I will never get tired of these theories

I'm wondering when the mane six had the camping trip what if chrysalis had actually managed to take the elements somehow and the mane six had been using fakes the rest of the entire time.

But there is also the factor that the only reason discord was freed was becuz the princesses weren't tied to the elements but if the main six was not brought together they couldn't have had the elements, so the question is did he really get turned to stone on the time line or how did he get free

Theory: all the timelines happen in the same timeline, just at different times...in the line.

Hey Sawtooth i have a question : does the human world have different timelines too ?? If there is then i have a theory myself about that Wasteland Timeline :
-Since Human Luna didnt get banish to the Moon and im pretty sure the Mane Six did ends up reformed Luna so everything from SS1 to time before the Friendships Game is pretty much still the same . After the Friendships Game ( the point when Midnight Sparkle introduced herself ) , another timeline may have formed : in that timeline Midnight Sparkle successfully teared the fabric of the two worlds and maybe those two had fused with eachother , the mane sixs ( both in Human World and Esquestria ) defeated Midnight Sparkle but they couldn't unfused the two world .
After some time lived like that a war had formed between the two world : The humans think that Esquestrian are just zoo animals and tried to capture them , Esquestrian think that Humans are just weak and they have to depends on technologies to live unlike the them . The Mane Sixs couldn't handle this war , even if they saved the two worlds from the death mutiple times , they still haven't faced a World Threating War like this .
-Before their eyes a massive meteorite cashed by the spell of all horn users who have been trained for this very moment crashed in to the Human City and giant explosions keep apear using Humans super technologies to damage the the Esquestrian , the war goes on until it been nothing left .
-Both Esquestrians and Humans have damaged the Earth soo hard that there is not left at all , just a giant piece of dirt that once owned a beautiful life floating in space ...
-Some of the important places like the Map still remand , forced to look at once a beautiful home that been destroyed ... forever ...

I'm pretty sure the banishment of Luna was before discord, otherwise we would see short lightblue hair with no flowing sparkled mane. At least I thought so cause if it was after wouldn't we see it in an episode? And we already saw the main 6 defeat discord already. Idk, just throwing out guesses.

There’s a chance Luna just never become nightmare moon

Hey Sawtooth waves considering you saw my post I’ll put my theory’s on you’re vids so you remember and you can fin them easier
2.if celestia, luna, cadence,twilight, and flurry heart are all considered princesses then whos the king and queen of equestira and can there be a king/prince so far in equestria history there has been no sign of a stallion ruler shure theres shining armor but other than him theres no good king/prince.

3. Hey Sawtooth waves
I have a theory for you
Could it be possible that princible sinch is cadences mother
Heres what i mean
Think about it sinch is pricible and cadence is dean pricible is a higher rank than dean would that mean in the pony world that if theres princess cadence and sinch is in higher authority than candence in the human world then is it possible Sinch is cadences mother I mean human celestial and Luna ran canterlot high as sisters why not sinch and cadence as mother and daughter and does that mean that pony sinch is a queen
Thx for answering the other 2 two down two to go and yes I’m taking this one as an sewer to where magic disappeared too good luck with the next one
I may make more theories for you to answer in the future so keep an eye out
Bro hoof 🤜🤛

Remember Luna went evil cuz jealousy & maybe she went "good" cuz her sister was out of the picture & everyone loved her precious night again

The time jumpy thing is correct, but in the canon of the show, Luna becomes Nightmare after she and Celestia take down Discord. They find the elements of Harmony to beat Discord the first time and then Celestia uses them against Nightmare, presumably years later.

Theory: i feel like there's also a seventh timeline in the MLP Fim! But not for the villains, in my theory, Sunset would be in the place of Twilight, while Twilight would be in Sunset's place, so we could've had a human Sunset in that timeline but no Sci Twi so it would be Sci-Set!

Here are more characters' opposite versions:
Pinkie Pie - Lemon Zest
Applejack - Sugarcoat
Rainbow Dash - Indigo Zap
Fluttershy - Soursweet
Sunny Flare - Rarity
Starlight Glimmer - Moondancer
Trixie Lulamoon - Starlight Glimmer
Moondancer - Trixie Lulamoon
Princess Cadence - Queen Chrysalis/Princess Crystalize, Chrysalis in this timeline will be the ruler of Crystal empire
Shining Armor - Sunburst
Princess Celestia - Princess Luna/Selena in an alternate universe, where Luna was the eldest
Princess Luna - Princess Celestia/Tia in an alternate universe where she is the youngest
Discord - Lord Tirek
Lord Tirek - Lord Discord, tirek would be the on who's a draconiquis
Nightmare Moon - Daybreaker, this time she's banished in the sun for many years
King Sombra - Fancy Pants, King Flants in my headcanon name
Queen Chrysalis - Princess Cadence/Queen Amore, this time she tried to steal love from Sunburst before Sunset and her friends could stop her.
Diamond Tiara: Apple Bloom/Brightening Apple, in this universe, she's the spoiled daughter of Pear Butter and Bright Mac of the Pear and Apple company.
Silver Spoon - Sweetie Belle, the friend of Brightening Apple, also the nerdy bully friend.
Cozy Glow - Scootaloo, the chicken filly we all know was no longer what we know, in this timeline she can fly, and trying to steal the magic from Equestria only to be defeated by Sunset and her friends, along with Queen Amore and Lord Discord.

Edit: Granny Smith's Alternate Universe counterpart would be Principal Cinch, so it would be Principal Smith and Granny Cinch, also having to make sense Diamond tiara and SugarCoat were siblings along with Silver Spoon and Sunny Flare, and Cozy Glow idolizing Indigo Zap.

I think that if we see it like this with a timeline where celestia was imprisoned maybe she and celestia fought since in the lullaby by a princess or whatever au they fought then Luna might win and the stars aid her escape maybe she’s been trying for 1000 years to move the stars I mean if u practice then u succeed in some scenarios that is possible

5:25 Now take into account all those variables of each timeline you listed...

... each of those variables IS ANOTHER TIMELINE CREATED!

huh. so discord timeline results in a nightmare timeline which then results in a chrysalis timeline. one question. where does the tirek timeline come in???

I know you have fun with the MLP multiverse, but I find this guy to have the most in-depth analysis of "The Cutie Re-Mark": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfLM4gLikg0

I think that Luna could’ve been reformed, chrysalis could have been defeated and discord could’ve been reformed even if the elements weren’t found by the mane 6.

Maybe in the main timeline when Celestia trapped Luna in the moon she also put a curse on Luna to stay there for 1000 years until the summer sun set celebration

This reminds me, i wonder if someday you'll do a video on how King Sombra took over Equestria? I'm kinda interested about that...

I liked it when he did longer episodes

You forgot the part where Discord WAS grogar so naturally he has more power over Luna and Maybe even Celestia(only if he used logic which he won't because,well he is still discord)

when discord was banished, didn't luna and celestia do it? like, when they turned him to stone? that happened before we saw main 6 right. so we can just say that discord won that timeline and luna never got the chance to turn into nightmare moon.

I think Luna came back because of the stars aligning Celestia was abel to refore Luna herself it may have taken awhile but she did it then discord came back but they could not defeat him this is just what I think Sawtooths theory is pretty good though

I'm curious if there's a timeline wherein Nightmare Moon didn't exist at all, just Luna being a princess.

I just assumed that she was never sent to the moon, as like celestia and Luna are forever fighting discord bc he finds it entertaining

What if Luna never turned into nightmare Moon during that time when discord was ruling

0:49 celestia Said in the show that when luna Was banished she Was 100% evil, now she Was trying tô escape nightmare moon

Theory idea: why didn’t we see a timeline where the storm king was successful?

I think you may be right about sunny not having permanent wings and horn cuz i just saw something about a Gen6 series and she doesnt have either but her hairs still colorful

In the Nightmare moon Timeline maybe Luna wasn’t sended to the moon, instead Celestia failed to send Luna to the moon

I love your theories!!

Of course, the real winner of both timelines might be the hidden puppet-master ultimate villain that hasn't been revealed (yet) who might exist and was secretly manipulating everyone, (especially during all the timelines, with Starlight being unknowingly used during all this until Twilight & Spike show up that is in those timelines and undoes everything Starlight had done & this unknown enemy (I have a personal pet theory on the unknown villain, & maybe they were one who caused magic to sort of disappear from Equestria, which ended the G4 era, possibly similar to how they ended the previous Gens such as by reviving Grogar which ended G3, yet this hidden villain is still not strong enough to actually physically manifest yet, escaping from their prison dimension but maybe we have seen a timeline where that villain did escape but will be when enough malevolence enters the Pony world...),

i think discord simply broke free because of the the sisters. they were fighting at that time and discord propably sensed the tension and hatered and couldn't help but make the situation worse. after all his name IS discord. sure there is no magic involved on my theory but do you really think all powerful and mighty discord would let a statue ruin his determination to turn the world upside down

What if Luna just never became Nightmare moon in that timeline, as there was too much chaos

Editor: How much Snowflakes do you want to cover the footage?

Sawtooth: yes

What if there was a timeline where the main six got different cutiemarks, or no cutiemarks, or the same cutiemarks at a different time and still came together

I'm pretty sure many years ago I saw a video of a bunch of background ponies at a makeshift main six, but I have no idea what its called or if it was just a fever dream

Discord was banished before nightmare moon, so maybe he missed her and brought her back

Celestia rolls the dice. That is pretty classic.

I like the idea- but I don’t think other ponies have the true friendship power to do anything :3

Man, I didn't even think about that timeline. Very good theory Sawtooth.

What Luna never turned into Nightmare moon? There won't be any need for the elements the Mane six or reforming! I don't know how accurate this is,but it's the best I can imagine. 💜

People saying that the fandom was gonna die after g4 are so wrong, and I'm so glad

It's Discord, he can do whatever he wants. He turned Nightmare Moon back into Luna for the chaos and only the chaos.

Oh my Celestia! What! A! Theory! It makes so much sense now!! I loved the supa hot fia meme, lol

You should do a theory on how the Sirens survived in the human world for a thousand years, before magic was introduced there

Just like with non-Alicorns, humans don’t live forever. Even if you were a Alicorn from another world, it wouldn’t matter. Without magic, nothing keeps you alive for longer than the normal human lifespan. Considering this, and the fact that magic was only introduced to the human world when Sunset used Twilight’s crown on herself, they would have no connection to their powers. Before the events of Equestria girls, the human world didn’t even know magic was a thing, or that other universes existed.

Starswirl banished the Sirens to the human world before Stigeon became the Pony of Shadows and before they banished him and themselves to Limbo, and that was way over a thousand years before Twilight became an Alicorn and had her crown stolen by Sunset. How did they survive all that time. The lack of all forms of magic in the human world would have rendered their Siren powers useless, so how did they manage to stay alive.

You could say that time works differently in the human world than in Equestria, and Equestria’s time moves faster than the human world’s time, but I don’t think that is the case either. The first appearance of the human world, mirror portal, and Sunset was right after Twilight became an Alicorn, between the end of season 3 and the beginning of season 4, and the first appearance of the Sirens was between the end of season 4 and the beginning of season 5. If the timeline of the human world was much slower than the timeline of Equestria, then I don’t think the Sirens would have gathered enough magical energy by that time to be revealed, it would have to have happened much later in Equestria’s timeline, like possibly a season or 2 after that

With all this information, how did they survive for that long in a world with no magic

Starlight prevent rainbow to do the sonic rainboom multiple times, every time.. she did different things. It kinda makes sense because

"If starligt keeps doing the same thing in the past, why can the present be so diffrent?" Twilight to zecora
"Ah.. time is a river, when even the tiniest changes scene/seem(?) can lead to cascade of affects downstream" zecora replied

So yea, the different timelines is bcs starlight do different things in the past to prevent the rainboom

Pretty off topic but bro couldn’t twilight just tell starlight why her friends are so important instead of going through all of that? It’s a lesson, ANSWER the question

I figured it was because Fluttershy and Rainbow became much closer friends in this timeline and had counciled Celestia into finding a way to talk Luna down and make her free herself from Nightmare Moon

Some other content: why wasn't Discord freed in other timeliness, since they were all full of disharmony. Or if he was, how did villains managed to defeat him? I understand how a centaur that can absorb ANY kind of magic, but Flim and Flam for example. Doubt.

Edit and yes, I highly doubt Nightmare Moon, Sombra and even changelings, who we didn't saw using magic-blocking outside of hive and I also doubt that he somehow didn't survive that final timeline, whatever that catastrophe is.

if derpy is there, everything will be fine

There's also the possibility that Discord wasn't able to rip the corruption magic out of Nightmare Moon, but did it for the challenge, all so it would be more fun to break her. Look at how he broke the Mane 6 in Season 2. He used magic as an aid (except Fluttershy), but mostly orchestrated the circumstances so they would let themselves succumb to his magic. Just putting the idea out there. The multiverse concept feels like a taste of unlimited possibilities.

Sawtooth is asking questions everyone just glossed over… he’s the real mvp

What if terek stole luna's corruption magic?

Actually this timeline had no elements of harmony because the mane six were never supposed to meet so this was BEFORE nightmare moon happened.

Sawtooth Waves: I Don't Have A Problem I Can Quit Whenever I Want
Also Sawtooth Waves: "Does DERPY Face"

The thumbnail makes me VERY nostalgic

Ok but the nightmare moon one wouldn't have been too bad... I mean Nightmare wasn't doing it to harm the ponies... in her timeline life was as normal but without the sun and with a different princess

6:19 absolute disrespect, charred & roasted beyond recognition get dabbed on bug queen ya burnt 🔥

Derpy may be a good mane 6 member.

My idea is a bit more cruel as discord likes seeing people in the chaos but also in despair, but what if he used magic to make the illusion of Luna to run next to Celestia? That would drive her mad, seeing her sister, but unable to help her in both that situation and in the situation long ago...

This is a fun exercise for the brain but the real answer is the writers didn't think about how none of the timelines make any sense at all and just wanted one where each villain won.

Hey sawtooth you know what Just kind of goes with your video you know Luna got banished to the moon she was technically the 1st mayor on the moon

I think for most timelines, Celestia doesn't stop trying to find a faithful student who can take original Twilight's place, but fails each time. Each of the Mane Six end up living in different places under different circumstances depending on how Starlight foils the Sonic Rainboom. And the villains rise or fall based on who takes their place, or what they can do to stop them. Reforming Luna or Nightmare Moon escaping is only a requirement in one timeline each.

>the forces of good have no reason to unleash nightmare moon into a world that isn't prepared to deal with her so the status quo continues
>until discord breaks free from his stone prison
But I thought Discord was released BECAUSE Mane Six connected to Elements, thus Celestia disconnected from Elements? Here's the quote from s02 opener:
>I thought the spell we cast would keep him contained forever, but since Luna and I are no longer connected to the Elements, the spell has been broken.
>...
>You six showed the full potential of the Elements by harnessing the magic of your friendship to beat a mighty foe. Although Luna and I once wielded the Elements, it is you who now control their power, and it is you who must defeat Discord!

is it a strech to assume that it could be the first time Celestia and Luna met discord and tried to seal him into stone?

You seem to be talking about corruption magic that transformed luna into nightmare moon. But what is that corruption magic? And where did it come from? Was it her anger that transformed her? In that case the magic would be existing inside her. But wouldn't that mean that there's corruption magic inside celestia too? They're sisters and alicorns after all... but wouldn't all alicorns have that power too then? This gets me thinking: If there's corruption magic inside luna, celestia and maybe the other alicorns too, would they be able to use it? Like corrupt others? Ofc this doesn't mean they'd do it but the thought that the alicorns might be able to transform ponies into "monsters" like nightmare moon is just so terrifying and interesting at the same time.
The second possibility is obviously the fact that there is not a single particle of corruption magic inside the alicorns. But if that's the case... Then where did the corruption magic come from? Was it originally just ordinary magic inside luna which transformed into corruption magic because of her feelings? Or the more darker option: Was it someone/something else who gave/used the corruption magic on luna (after noticing her feelings and stuff)? (In the series we see the transorfmation but that doesn't mean that she would have been corrupted at that moment: in fact i believe that she just released the "corruption" inside herself at that moment)

Also if there's actually a simple answer to this (for example a quote where a pony x says stuff like "and then her feelings transformed her into nightmare moon") please forgive me, i'm too tired and haven't watched the episodes in a while now :"D

What if Luna never turned evil in the Discord timeline.

Now i wanna see the other villains analized

or maybe in the timeline where she is running around with celestia she never got corrupted

You will never reform from all the pieces you'll be shredded into.

Luna can’t stand looking at the derpy eyes without a straight face! Derpy is just that famous!

Wonder if in an alternate timeline changelings teach friendship.

maybe they're all in the same timeline just different points in time.

But the elements of harmony are more powerful than discord so can he erase the corruption magic that luna wielded and one more it was prophesied that nightmare moon would release at the longest of the
thousandth yr before the rainboom took place as starlight would have the capability to change the future not the past.

What if celesta tried to defer dicord by using a spell to unleash nightmare moon and teleported to a nother area to deal with nightmare.celesta had no choice but to used her most powerful spell ever that destroyed night mare…Then just when she thought Luna was gone she was there!Then they went to discord but he weakened celesta and Luna and u guessed it he won…

3:49 and 6:59
“ and JUST LIKE he did in our timeline he took the elements”
3:49

“AND BEFORE he took the elements” 6:59

Me: but there is no elements of harmony?!?

Do you think that the disruption of the rainboom event could have triggered Discord's release to happen earlier?

just saying celestia could have also used the elemens to do the same like she used the elemens to banish nightmare moon in the first place or countless times we just havent seen

Theory : Nightmare moon was freed but not from a known source like defeated discord sent her dear sis is yet too the moon know for Chrisalis ( sorry if I spelled it wrong ) they took out one of the guards as She shapeshifted into him now being in the castle is part 1 complete part 2 she took over after fight by the time she’s freed She’s been freed from the moon planning to set things back to normal now twilight was there in those timelines for quite a while so good things might happen

There could be a timeline where Luna wasn’t even nightmare moon

heres my theory about this: the people who drew the scene probably were dumb and forgot about it and they wanted too add luna bc nightmare moon forced too be a clown? that ain't happening

Discord turned into stone before Luna turned into nightmare moon
Celestial banished nightmare moon with the element of harmony and Luna (before she became bad) celestial found the elements to make discord into stone

Maybe she wasn’t trapped in the first place in this timeline 🤔

Thanks for your videos!

What if the Sombra timeline is that Celestia won this battle against Discord and Nightmare Moon? Sombra then returns later and starts the war. All the timelines might connect with this one battle.

Maybe discord stole the elements of harmony the first time and that's why celestia wouldn't have banished luna to the moon

well IDW did a special comic where it was blueblood instead of twilight that celestia chose but nightmare moon was reformed without the elements of harmony

Here's a topic I want tackled how did discord get out of stone. It seem to only happen once the CMC were arguing in front of him. What if they didn't what would've happened

Maybe celestial managed to get through to nightmare moon reforming her with her words and offering her to start dream walking.

He also could’ve wanted revenge.

I’m pretty sure the discord thing happened way before Luna became nightmare moon

I am a awful theory person but I love watching other peoples theories

You know I haven't watched all the video yet but what if celistia was testing the mane six to be the next rulers of equestria because she used the elements of harmony before by her self and could do it again so idk tells me what you think

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What the girls life would’ve been in other timelines
Let’s get this straight, Twilights are the least and most involved in this stories. All of her alter aren’t show. But I support the theory that Twilight would still be in the school just no under Celestia wing, you can check that theory now let’s go on to the rest

Sombra timeline:
Rainbow Dash: She was cheated in the last moment. She likely joined the army and become teammate with Pinkie and Maud
Fluttershy: I think she would still got an animal cutie mark becuz she still fall and still meet the animals. Her cutie mark wouldn’t be the same but it is the most similar in the mane 6
Pinkie Pie: She wouldn’t have the fun cutie mark but she would get a rock cutie mark since we see that her skill is equal Maud in this timeline
Apple Jack: I think she would still get home but in a different way. She is the worst written character
Rarity: She would still get a cutie mark for sewing but not for fashion, I think her cutie mark would be a sew or a cloth and she would help the army by making war clothes.

Chrysalis timeline:
This timeline is literally lagged becuz the mane 5 got the exact same looks and cutie mark like in our timeline. The crew is too lazy to make new design and cutie mark. So my thoughts wouldn’t be based on the scenes like in Sombra timeline
There is a 0,001% chance fluttershy could have the same cutie mark in Sombra timeline because she still fall down but in this timeline, she literally befriend the bullies. And how is Pinkie’s hair fluffy, this timeline is really bugged. And how TF does Apple Jack, Rarity and Rainbow Dash look alike with their alter ego. So to end this shenanigans, let’s just conclude that Fluttershy and Pinkie can’t have the same cutie mark and Rainbow Dash, Rarity and Apple Jack probably died.

Nightmare Moon timeline:
Rainbow Dash: She literally saw a battle between an alicorn and a unicorn, that must have had an impact on her since she is okay to talk to the bullies and could have befriend them. She must have an interest for fighting and get a fighting cutie mark. Later, she and likely the bullies join the shadow bolt. Maybe this is a key different to separate the Nightmare Moon and Discord timeline.
Rarity: I also think she join Nightmare Moon’s army. And likely for her greed and survivability.
Most of this world has been covered in Everfree, and likely, very likely all of them died and The Nightmare Moon’s army is the only survivor left. So yeah, this timeline is literally dark.

Tirek timeline
Every timeline Twilight come after is worse than the others. Sombra only start a war and they have a chance of winning when Celestia is still there.
There still some survivors in the everfree forest in Chrysalis timeline. There’s literally 10 ponies left in Nightmare Moon Timeline. And there’s no one in Tirek timeline. Nothing more.

Discord Timeline
I have a theory on why Luna is there in Discord timeline, you have to remember that this is Discord timeline, the spirit of CHAOS timeline. Like he could just turn Nightmare Moon into Luna, like it take 3,5 villains to fool him. Nightmare Moon wouldn’t have a chance, and even if she can beat him, this world has been turned into literal CHAOS, She could just poof back into Luna when she escaped.
And Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy would’ve been much closer becuz Fluttershy saved Rainbow from dying, orrrrr Rainbow just died, who knows, this world is CHAOS, so maybe both of those things happened.

Flim Flam Timeline
This world is stupid and the least intimidating, they could have go to this timeline first. And the way this timeline happened is literally similar to Chrysalis timeline.

The last timeline
I think this used to be a Discord timeline. Then he bring all possible villains back to Equestria. And they just ruined this world like nothing happened.

I think Discord would offer to free Luna for Celestia and reform her. In exchange for Equestria that is.

kk, so imagine: Luna? Banished. Mane 6? nope. Makeshift mane 6? Also no. In this timeline Celestia becomes stronger with using the elements over the thousand years, (in ours, let's pretend she was doing so, but gave them to the mane 6 when they appeared) so she decides to Release Nightmare Moon and reform Luna herself, seeing as she misses her sister. What could an outcome be? One of the known, or it just doesn't happen? I was thinking nothing, that it's a timeline we just don't have or the waste land one. but what do yall think?

nightmare moon freed, because she realized that her sister is sorry for shadowing her sister, but when freed, her decision overpowered the dark magic and reformed!

I still believe Grogar is the one who bail Nightmare Moon

"That's right fillies, colts, and enby folks."

Me: :D

One thing I just realized is that we never get a real explanation of why Celestia's hair goes from pastel pink to other pastel colors still including the pink. Though there are theories of it being from the elements. It seems odd. Especially when looking at Daybreaker's hair color.

Wait So Speer can also make reform without gang of four?! (i must do it)

Maybe Luna never turned into Night Mare Moon in that timeline.

Think about this also for Lina’s mark in the books her mane and tail turn star like soon after she comes over corruption but her mark has the black so what happened there what made Lunas hair like that? Why was that time line different and how did it happen? Also love the videos

Oml just that intro about made me cry tears of joy, coming from an enby folk

6:22 I like to think you constantly dunk on chrysalis because she’s a horrible changeling queen

3 theories, either in that timeline she never became nightmare moon or....
DISCORD! Discord could just bring her back, why? Probably because he probably wanted more people to rule over, that’s just discord.
But..maybe discord was there when nightmare moon was and he actually turned nightmare moon into stone, fast forward 1000 years later discord let her free to reform her. What do you think sawtooth?

FILLIES, COLTS, AND ENBYFOLKS?! I’m gonna cry thank you

i love ur videos ur so smart on thinking on these

I love the alternate timeline videos

I have a theory of one of the timethe reason why discord kept luna around in his timeliness so he can make her queen and defeat princess Celestia together

I think every million years maremoon will be released because Princess Celestial power was not stong in the past

A derpy princess time line count me in :D

Honestly… I think Starswirl is involved in the freeing he has STAR in his name…

The luna moon from a distance looks like someone looking through a telescope or someone shooting

Yes! Time lines are back!

Please make more videos like this

A word for thought what if and the Discord timeline Luna never became Nightmare Moon

maybe this happen before luna becomes nightmare moon and in season 2 celestia said that she turn discord into stone with luna
you see ,the elements shape like the mane six quietly mark so it must be contral by the mane six not another mane six

Oh great, now I want to go rewatch “Bride of discord” 😒😏

Theories I have about the G5
Feel free to discuss but now I keep it short

- What happened to Discord?? Isnt that man immortal

- Cutie marks!! What do they mean? Its not like they talk about it or even mention it
Also their now only on one side
Are they like just birthmarks now just like how we have this extra bone that USED to be important? And if they still magically appear wouldnt that - ugh nvm im ranting again

- Where did the cities go? Like have they never looked at ruins?

- Why did the main character become an Alicorn? Like I know she brought em together but still (if we go off Sawtooth’s theory) then it’s basically all Twilights magic stored in that but do ponies even know of Alicorns??

- Reacting to that, do the ponies of G5 even know what Alicorns are?

- What happened to the crystal empire

- How old did Spike get?

- The equastria girls are they like ancient now?

- Did flurry heart like not become like an looong lived pony

- How long was Gen 4 ago in the G5 timeline because no one even mentions Twilight like no one

- How and why did ponies even manage to lose their magic?

- I’m very curious how they also invented technology, like is it because they lost magic? Probably

- Again WHAT HAPPENED TO DISCORD I’ve been breaking my mind over this
Some answers are waaay to dark and some make 0 sense and some are like: thats the most boring answer ever, even if they make sense they’re boring maybe I’ll comment my theory onnit again 😂 it’s wholesome yet sad

- Where did Sunflurry whatever her name is the main character lose her dad?

Also that red pony doesn’t deserve redemption maybe in the future but rn he was just an ***hole


- can they have phone calls now since they can go live?? Like couldnt he just call her like “yo get back now or what”
Also what is it with mlp and destroying houses 😭

S1 Episode 1 It started with a book and S9 Episode 26 it ends in a book I wonder why

Ive always wondered where luna/nightmare Moon is in King sombra timeline

I’m Considering Sawtooth brought up twilights protege in another vid it got me thinking is twilight still in command we don’t really know what year it is in new generation on earth we gave time a name such as seconds minutes days and years while in mlp they define there time as moons as a way to symbolize how much time has passed but how can we tell how many years it’s been for them since the last episode of mlp. Is there a way to convert moons into our time? HOW MANY MINUTES HOURS DAYS DOES A FULL MOON CYCLE IN THERE WORLD TAKE? WHAT IS A MOON IN THERE WORLD MEAN TO US?
Sawtooth I know you’re there you’ve answered me before help us with this one
Bro hoof🤜🤛

In the one where night mare moon rules there is not a main six and there is no celestia because it was before night mare moon got sent to the moon. She obviously defeated celestia because there was no main six and with no main six there was no tree of harmony so that would result to night mare moon being undefeated.

I honestly don't think the forces of good control if Luna comes or not bc celestia defeated nightmare moon hence sending her to the moon for 1000 moons with a spell and what if the spell only lasts for 1000 moons and when discord was ruling in both the universes and Luna just appeared and then in one discord lost and in the other discord won

But thats just a theory. A MLP THEORY! Hes literally the MatPat of MLP

he forgot that the main 6 are the spirits of the elamints

Как всегда прекрасная теория

“I don’t have a problem, I can quit whenever I want.”
- Sawtooth Waves (formally known as The Brony Notion) I don’t know the date becuase YouTube removed it

Could discord wield the elements of harmony?

Just a random question but are the discord, flim flam and nighmare moon timlines really bad ending timelines? As far as we know they do not harm the ponies, intentionally at least.

What if she just never became nightmare moon in the first place 🧐

You know the video above this and you said "There might be diffirent starlight's out there" Yeah they might be other mane 6's out there-

Maybe she was never banished in that time-line 🤔

i think Celestia released Nightmare Moon in both times and she told her that Discord is back and she ask her to help.....but the decision of Nightmare Moon is different, in one time she gives up and become Luna again and help Celestia; in the other time Nightmare Moon tries to defeat Discord by herself and all ponies will accept her as a ruler instead Celestia (imagine Nightmare Moon saying to Discord "Even villains have nightmares!")

I think that all three are a possibility because the make shift main 6 could have bin difeated in the other time lines. And I think that discord might have the power to remove magic because we do not know everything about him even now. And if the elder sister sent her to the moon with the elements who is to say that she did not set up the ability for her to be freed from her imprisonment in case she had no choice but to use her to keep Equestria safe and to have the chance to be with her again. So I think all of these outcomes are real and it just depends on which timeline you are in. And as for the ones were she was not let out she might not have had the key players to the times she was set free. So that could be why we do not see her in the other time lines.

He can destroy any time line

Can you do a theory video about what happened to all the creatures from outside Equestria like Griffins, Hippogriffs, Yaks, Changelings and Dragons in the MLP G5 universe if it's even in the same universe as MLP_G4 since they we're welcome in Equestria in the MLP FIM show?

LUNA and Celestia banished discord before Luna turns into nightmare moon that's when they first showed up .Discord over powers both the princesses and takes over equestria .And in Luna's timeline discord was already turned into stone. She just have to over power Celestia and Equestria is hers

I have return to my favourite you tuber since 9 years old

Edit:Derpy being the leader just makes me wanna cry in happiness

again with the alternate timelines? They are actually some of my favorite videos

But what if, in the ones without moon, celestia one the gamble but failed later on

Yay you fixed one of the plot holes with The Cutie Remark

There is just one problem the mane six would still be able to have cutiemarks and twilight would still have that attitude so they meet again

This man is a genius…

I take your theories as canon

Your theory,s are always interresting

Discord uses his ability on Nightmare Moon and swapped personalities.
Nightmare Moon got suppressed not Princess Luna

could Princess Twilight Sparkle save the multiverse?

it´s just funny when he ask. WHAT DO YOU THINK? when he just expleined literally all the posible answers. im allways impresed

sawtooth I know who released Nightmare Moon it was Twilight remember that mlp episode Twilight Kingdom where Celestia, Luna & Cadance gave Twilight their magic maybe just maybe Twilight In Twilight Kingdom went back in time and release Nightmare Moon

How in the name if celestia do you come up with these theories

you can see a unicorn in the moon before her return

💫Kaiju battle between Discord and Nightmare Moon? I wanna see it.🌙

I have a question for you.
Why are the cutie marks only on one side from the ponies in my little pony a new generation?

As for a makeshift 6 -- Just because there was no rainboom doesn't mean the original main 6 are off the table. Sure they would be impacted by the event, but assuming that was a kobayashi maru test for Twilight, she would have attended Celestia's school, just not been her personal student. She still could have excelled and been magic or one of the other elements. She also had a reason for being in Ponyville to see the Summer Sun Celebration, since she would have been more distanced from Celestia, but from her earlier memories as a filly still would be in awe of her. Rainbow Dash might never have found her love for speed, but she is still quite the weather pegasus, and has a ton of pegasus magic. If she still ended up the weatherpony of Ponyville, she could still be available. Maybe even be a better loyalty if she was loyal to Gilda and Fluttershy. Rarity wouldn't have gotten her diamonds mark, but she still loved dresses and such. She could have gone in a ton of different directions. Whether or not she stood out enough in Ponyville to be of interest as a candidate for an element, who knows, but it is possible in practically ANY direction. Fluttershy would probably have never come to Ponyville without the rainboom. I don't know what her destiny would be, but it would likely be very different. AJ would have stayed longer in Manehattan, BUT this doesn't mean she wouldn't come back to the farm eventually. She was miserable in Manehattan and has a strong family bent. She could be even more honest without the rainboom if she is forced to be honest with herself and come back to Ponyville without prompting. Pinkie Pie would likely have stayed on the rock farm. Poor Pinkie Pie.

So, this means Twilight is still a possibility -- the weakest link being if she went to Ponyville to see the Summer Sun Celebration. RD is still a pretty good chance. Rarity is a possiblity. AJ is a remote possibility. The other 2 quite unlikely. My guess is 2 or 3 of the main 6 would still be members of the main 6, and the other 3 or 4 different ponies.

Either that, or Luna never turned into Nightmare in the Discord universe.

Twilight never became her student so to save Luna celestia could've used the elements to save her

Or maybe in one of the timelines she never became nightmare moon.

I think that the only reason Celestia wasn't connected with the elements anymore, was BECAUSE THE SONIC RAINBOOM happened, in a world where the sonic rainboom didn't happen, she was still connected to the elements and reformed Luna to help her with discord, as for the nightmare moon timeline I think your right that their different outcomes, the nightmare moon timeline was because when Celestia freed Luna discord destroyed the elements of harmony, but that's just a theory.

I have a idea, what if Nightmare moon never existed in this timeline? Celestia and Luna spent so much more time fighting discord that Luna couldnt turn in Nightmare Moon?

simple Discord Reformed her so that she and her sister could be his play things I bet he was like oh luna's evil now snap Reformed.

Every video answers many questions the fans have

Discord Is The Lord Of Kayos Maybe He Used His Power To Transform Her Back Into Princess Luna

I mean what if Luna didn't turn into Nightmare Moon?

Luna probably never turned into nightmare moon in the other timelines and discord never existed in the others.

I love the once with different timelines

Hey Sawtooth, have you seen the new mlp 2d series "clip"? 😭 Its absolutely horrifying

I also like this video very well just keep making similar videos because I will definitely like them too 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂👍👍👍👍👍

Is it worng that I kinda want to live in the time line where discord takes over.

While Luna was in the moon who has been raising the moon was it her evil form or celestia found a way to🤔🤔

Maybe before discord became stone he may have freed her

What if Chelsea reformed her in one in the other she took over thank you for being an amazing YouTuber I hope you never stop ,Starshine Queen

I love your theorys

Please do all of the multiverse video
I think in the Tirek timeline, Celestia doesn’t free Nightmare Moon and Discord was fooled by Tirek like in our timeline
And in a Sombra timeline, It May used to be a Chrysalis timeline too,
And Flim and Flam, that timeline is just plain stupid and they run out of villain
So my theory is
Discord only need himself to be effective
Luna and Tirek need Discord
Chrysalis need Luna
And Sombra need Chrysalis

I love your videos

Nobody:
Captions: how was nightmare moon reformed without the main sex

The mane 6 would still exist but eithet in different circumstances, or they would be band of different ponies in many different timelines, there are some things are destined to happened, even timelines where the villains timeline wouldn't last long until their version of the Mane 6 bands together

FILLIES, COLTS, AND ENBY FOLKS--happy enby noises

Take into consideration that Luna bacame nightmare moon after Discord was turned to stone.
Remember, Celestia and Luna turned Discord to stone TOGETHER.
Then again, I might be wrong, just consider please.

Also, this is the daughter of the person whose account is being used.

I saw a video saying it might be Rainbow and Fluttershy who convinced Luna to do good since Rainbow was frozen in ice by Starlight. Maybe it was them

The memes in this video gave me life.

Heh- I'm early I think- it's 3am here I haven't slept for the past three days 😅 anyways love your videos! Keep up the amazing work! 🤭

This guy's an MLP genuis😎😎

All I’m wondering is how long it took me to finally notice that you have the bisexual flag behind your changling character in the channel logo.

Maybe discord took over before he was turned to stone for the first time.

Maybe Princess Celestia and Princess Luna had turn Discord into stone before Princess Luna became Nightmare Moon.

Hello sawtooth! I saw something just now and I think you should... At least have a fought about that if not make a video.
You know that black splach behind lunas cutie Mark? You realise celestia herself doesn't have that probably because DAYBREAKER didn't exist, but in starlights dream you can clearly see a orange fire behind daybreakers cutie Mark! Showing the dark side but what can it be? Since lunas one is the pony of shadows what can be celestias control?

Awesome and cool!

But Discord escaped because Celestia and Luna weren't tied to the elements any more, the main 6 were, so without them how did he escaped?

I know that I´m late, but Discord was rulling eqestria before nightmare moon. When Luna and Celestia defeated Discord, they became the rulers of Eqestria. But when Luna realised, that her sister got way more attention and every pony didnt even looked at her, she got jealous and also didnt like the fact that the ponies were asleep at night, while beeing happy at day. So she wanted to defeat her sister and turned into nightmare moon

Discord is the lord of chaos he has power over all reality prob if this happend discord would 100% win

Funny thing is, all of these are possible

if you like different timelines, then check the timeline where nmm exist bcs of the coruption of a goddess. for more details just asking is enough

Question Couldn't have twilight and the main six be the elements themselves? You know like the elements are kinda them and they were born out of the element but then moved to a new family? This theory could explain how Luna was reformed without the main six she was actually instead taadaa and to explain the reasoning of the new family part basically the element would send a sliver of itself into a sperm cell their chosen one which they would make look like a normal pony.

what if in one world with discord nightmare moon becomes Luna and fails to fight discord and in the empty timeline celistia becomes day breaker to fight discord but then loses control

But The Mane 6 Represented The Elements Of Harmony

These time lines are very different and confusing 😀⌚👑🍉

Discord happened even before Luna or Nightmare moon. 🌕

That time was before nightmare moon their earliest period in the timeline

So I’m not very smart but maybe as an answer to 0:49 maybe she could have freed her sister herself but was waiting for the right people to do it? As you said in a video about the theory of alicorns saying Celestia was looking for the right people to rule Equestria once she went back to her home, maybe freeing her sister from the cell was the test to decide it all and she was just waiting for that moment to arrive

how will changelings reproduce now without a queen?🤔

What would have happened if Princess_Celestia found the Elements with the help of Twilight Sparkle and freed her sister by herself while the other ponies were living normal lives?

Hello Sawtooth!

Glad to see ya again!

I thought of another theory.What if Celestia let free nightmare moon then she met discord and they teamed up, destroyed Celestia and halve of the land was nightmare moons and the other halve was discord’s?!

#3 hi i’ve got a question so remember your discord video when you were when you were making up theories about who could the score do you wanna be in the human world well I think he could’ve been a assistant principal that was working with principal Luna and principal Celestia and then when he was working he was making up trouble with luncheons by changing the ingredients or making the classes longer and making the bells ring at the wrong time and then principal Luna and principal Luna did a contract with discord and now he’s not with them for 10 years but then the next 10 years he’s back and he’s stirring up trouble but now with the main seven they try to convince this girl to be good and that’s the rest of the story tell me what you think 🦄🐴

Another theory is that celestia released nightmare moon reformed her but Luna starts dream walking. In a world where hope is lost because there is not main 6 Luna could provide comfort for the ponies. Then celestias evil side comes to life.

Edit: this means the universe we left behind is open for new theories, kinda like a new pov of mlp. So from season 6 on we get to fill in the pages of the last story this show every told

Since discord can break Tierks and Cosy Glow out of Tartarus brought back King Sombar whatever to him in season three. Then give them magic which isn’t his (as it not chaos magic)
And from season two he can rise and set both the sun and moon. He probably when ok “Click”day time oooh Nightmare Moon “Click” now Luna “Click” now a clown. As you said. Now discord have only lost when he had lost he magic when Tierk took it ……oooooh too many ideas running though my head now. Can’t let this comment go to long.

I would wanna live in a timeline where derpy had the element of magic










Alicorn derpy

Derpys muffin element is adorable 😖

I think Nightmare moon Was freed by Princess Celestia And they talked,Fight and then when it started to be peaceful she used the Elements of harmony years later Discord came and started chaos but without the main Six the princesses have to defeat the villains demseleves, So they fought Discord but Like you said Discord may have gotten Luna's magic so It was only Celestia and who won? Discord

This is just a hunch but didn't They defeat Discord before Luna become nightmare moon

So it can be possible that Discord defeat Luna and Celestia and corrupted there brains like he did with the main six but in a different way.


So it's possible that Discord took that opportunity to take control while the princess were under his control, so the future could have been changed that the main six was never needed or never existed in the first place with Rainbow dash sonic rainbow or Celestia taking twilight as her student.

Because it all happened from the start when Celestia and Luna first fought discord but failed to stop him.


But that's just a theory

A Pony theory!

Didn’t discords rule happen before Luna turned into nightmare moon?

Did you randomly select ponies to be the wielder of the Elements of harmony? How come there's more earth ponies and only one Pegasus pony in the group?

Can you do a theory video about why the writers of the MLP FIM show decided not to give Spike the same kind of character development as the Mane_6 since he's the male protagonist of this show despite being a Dragon and not a pony? The only thing I don't understand is that why did Celestia give Spike to Twilight Sparkle instead of returning him to the Dragon Land after he hatched from his egg. Why does Spike even exist in this series if he can't be treated like an equivalent to Twilight and her friends which makes them jerks and racists for not having any kind of sympathy for him?

I think that the discord timeline happened before luna became nightmare moon and after she became she took over

But I thought that discord only escaped because celestia and Luna weren’t connected to the elements anymore in the first place? I really like the first theories but they wouldn’t be possible if discord hadn’t broken out of his statue (which wouldn’t have been possible without the main 6 using the elements to reform Luna). So I personally think the theory with the “replacement” for the main 6 would make the most sense, but as you said why wouldn’t celestia just do it herself? I always speculated that celestia only tried to force twilight to make new friends and sent her to pony ville because she saw potential of a new princess and a new ruler in her and that reforming Luna would just be the first step of learning about some kind of new magic (if she didn’t also plan that twilight would become the princess of friendship). So why would she use replacements for the main 6 in the ulternate timeline? (Since she could have done it herself) THIS IS HARD HELP

the tree of harmony was destroyed freeing disord and luna since it was the elements that put both in there place luna was put in the moon by celestia and discord was seal with the elements with both princess sooooo if the tree of harmony was broken would not both get free? for the reformed part ....... lets say wean night mare moon was finally free she was going to defeat her sister but discord change her back case he can. IF discord can fake a harmony summon the cutely mark magic he could do things that unicorns cant this is my theory..🦓🐴🦄

or a timeline if celestia got corrupted and luna was ok

The main six weren’t there and I actually thought that she would actually do it where you would be like the slap your face like what did you think she would do apparently just magically get them out there

In MLP ( the series) we saw living beings in there except ponies like changeling and yaks
But in MLP new generation.....do they still exist

hope your well sawtooth

btw at the first episode twilights book says how the stars will come together and free the mare in the moon after 1000 years (edit: wait they said that)

“I dont have a problem! I can stop when i want”
Me: Are you sure your ok? Im starting to become concerned

mabye she never became nightmare moon in the discord time line

Hi sawtooth remember season 4 ep 1 and 2 the discord thing happened before Luna trainedformed into nightmare moon

How about grogar’s time line

i think discord deafeted night mare moon but celestia was crisales and deafeted the both meanings chrisales met discord but had a battle and lost in the mean time celestia used the elements of harmony and deafeted nightmare moon so then she teamed up with others and then grogar , teirk and cozy glow then grogar lost because of the belle and the villans ruled as the time no princess can defeat them

Hey sawtooth can you do a theory about the human world and how it’s changed

Tirek defeated sombra, Sombra defeated queen chrysilis, Queen chrysalis defeated nightmare moon and nightmare moon defeated discored?

Is discored really that weak?

nah if they never defeat discord then no they won’t rule so she won’t get jelly

I love your videos

Maybe nightmare moon wanted to become luna again. I have a pretty good theory which I want to post on my channel, whenever I start it.

For discord to be released did the CMC have to be friends. If so then Pinkie Pie and Applejack would need to be friends for Apple Bloom to go to Pinkie for help finding her cutie mark and for her to end up in the party. If Apple Bloom never went to the party the CMC wouldn't become friends making it less likely for them to talk to each other. Maybe they never would have argued and set discord free?

The timelines are so confusing, you could make videos on them for years...

In the other timelines Luna never Turned in to nightmare moon

Sawtooth watching all 9 seasons of mlp without blinking everyday looking for any thing to make a video on;

Sawtooth…
Then who released nigtmare moon in our timeline?…. Discord?

Wow great theory I love the video

Well ig the spell only lasted for thousand years.

maybe it took place when luna and celestial were fighting discord?

What if there wasn't a Nightmare Moon in the timelines

My opinion is that is that in the alternate timeline Luna she didn't have to be Nightmare Moon at all.
Also did you notice anything strange in 3:40? :|

luna was in the past that time line is from the past like celestia said a old enemie of mine it was luna cause twilight went to the past in the past luna wasent nighmare moon
so thats how she isnt nightmare moon

Ahem did you forget? when the princesses defited discord the mane 6 whearnt born

JESUS CHRIST,you gotta feel bad for the Chrysalis timeline if that's the case! First Discord,then Nightmare Moon,then Chrysalis!

Discord was free and princess luna fought each other in one time line princess luna won in her time line and the discord time line discord won by taking luna evil magic

The stars tub how do you get out of the moon in that and then Princess Celeste Dia turned her back by herself sup

I still think grogar helped nightmare moon escape

Oh don't be sorry I love alternate time lines just as much as you!😅

I like it ☺️

How come when Luna gets was to maybe be released by discord her hair is flowing already cause when the main 6 defeated nightmare moon her hair was just regularly
to the blue

Discord only escaped from the CMC and if they didn't fight their it wouldn't of happened

Breaking News, changeling Queen gets roasted by changeling.
(Epic)

Not the muffins of Harmony!!!! 😂

Wooww Lyra and Bon Bon is my favorite! Basically after ten thousand years Luna was trapped at the moon right? But when Luna was become nightmare moon and was banish she was young when she turned to a nightmare moon she still have white hair and then when I saw discord was chasing them why does Luna looks like older now she has what celestia look now even she was young when she was banished at equestria. Did discord transforms her into older? Because sometimes I caught discord very demanding and irritating maybe discord does not like what Luna looks like when she was younger then he turned her into older cuz Discord can do a female pony into a male pony.

the thumbnail is pretty good

But Luna was there the first time they banished discord to stone....she help her sister use the elements

I missed the "alternate time-line" theories 😅👍

Who knows, maybe their really was a different version of the mane six

I don't think. Discord would get the elements because in a timeline without the rainboom the main six will not get their cutie marks at the same time and they will not come together and go into the everfree forest and discover the elements the elements are in their form because of the Mane six and in a world without the main six no elements

Oop I got a good idea maybe discord reformed her so he could do chaos on her or something

👀 what would happen if discord met one of his variants ?

Maybe celestia or discord didn't free Luna maybe it was in the past before the Mane 6 or before discord was turned in to stone

Discord was before nightmare moon so it had nothing to do with the mane 6. So if discord won Luna had no time to get jealous

6:22
😂😂😂

♥️💖💞🦄 i cant blieve you thought that this cort could take all the magic from lona saik and she turndcin to the night mermon

Derpy muffin crown is so adorable

On the 1000th day the cliustius spell that she put luna wore off and she came back down

the animators forgor

It's possible that in that alternate timeline they didn't manage to ever banish Discord, and so it's been chaotic all the way since the first battle.

I love Luna

How does corruption magic work?

Princess Celestia has used the elements of pornany to send Luna to the moon but when twilight and her friends has used them they didn't send her to the moon because princess Celestia was with them when Applejack finish her words so she didn't wanted to send her back she give her a chance to be a good princess.So she reforme because of discord cause he's an another animal and he has powers powerful than unicorns so he and princess Celestia just can do it because princess twilight cannot reforme her when she wasn't a princess.So I think just princess and discord can just reform her.
(Can I get pinned?)

It was never a form without winning she would have nothing to go off of becoming nightmare Moon so she would just be Luna and she would have been in the Future movie

6:34
Me: this is discord his power is very unknown

Didn't nightmare moon appear after they had sealed discord away

Question
When the royal sisters switched cuity marks celesta said when raising the moon “that was easier than raising the sun” then who raised the moon when night mare moon was in the moon

Can you talk about the other 5 timelines

OR... Luna didn't turn into nightmare moon at all... I mean why would Luna be mad about controlling only the moon when Discord was controlling both? dun dun duuuun

This guy could give Doctor Who a headache.

okay this sure is pretty uh, mind boggling

I think night mare moon doesn't exist in the discord time line as discord is the villain before night mare moon

Discord came after the mane 6 reformed luna

That was Luna before she turned into nightmare moon

My ancestor Derpy is the one who became the new alicorn princess after Twilight Sparkle's death and she's leading her troops into war with the unicorns and earth ponies.

What if the elements of harmony unleashed nightmare moon!

Happy Friday🎉🎊

Yay nice vid ♥️♥️♥️

Ah yes. Timelines.

Well in Cutie remark there are many problems
1 why didn't Twilight changed nor her cutie Mark
2 how did spike even exist cuz we saw twilight was fail to hatch egg ?

Thank you so much

Error if celestia freed luna in 2 other timelines after discord is free celestia trapped luna with the elements then how was she able to find and free luna from prisonment

1st up love the thumbnail and great video I agree with this allot and great to see you still making videos 👏👍❤

He said he can stop whenever he wants but I don't think he can 😏

Wait....could discord go between all the timelines

Now what im wondering is who are the four stars or “forces of good”

i was gonna say that maybe nightmare moon never came to be but



NIGHTMARE MOON HAPPENED BEFORE THE MANE 6 LOL

bro it could’ve happened before luna became deppreso

You know discord was there before nightmare moon,right?!?

i think discord CAN remove corruption magic let me explain

chaos has no definition that's why it's so chaotic discord as the spirit of chaos has an unlimited amount of power including taking power so i think
DISCORD REFORMED NIGHTMAREMOON

Super Duper Amazing !!!!!!!!!!
Big Fan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Make a video on cosmos and princess eris
They are also a draconequus

Luna looks reform but this was before she became nightmare moon

What if some or most or maybe even all the timelines are just if the certain villain came into power depending on some timelines the villain failed but in someday succeeded in staying in power what if that’s what it is some succeeded in saying in power and some failed so that’s made a new timeline?(just thought of that when watching)

Maybe Luna did not become nightmaremoon in other time lines

Luna was reformed Not by the main 6 by the way this is a great video

Tirek is the strongest valían in my little pony

What about Apple bloom, Scootaloo and Sweetie bell

Now do a theory as to how the Flim-Flam brothers destroyed Equestria with capitalism

This happened before she became nightmare moon

3 comment)
1) You might as well talk about all the alternate timelines as many times as you want because lots of programs that involve alternate timeline tend to have a lot to say.
2) I think there was one MLP FIM comic book that may explain how all the other timeline came to being. I think it was called MLP FIM Deviations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tE6MNRUVVI
3) I'm pretty sure even if the "forces of good" didn't release Nightmare Moon, she still would have found a way to escape and return just like how Discord found a way to be free from his stone prison, like how Kings Sombra found a way to escape his inter dimensional prison or like how Tirek escaped Tartarus.

??? Isn’t the timeline with Discord ruling before Luna became Nightmare Moon? I believe in the season 4 flashback when Celestial and Luna defeated Discord with the Elements of Harmony before Luna became Nightmare Moon. I might be wrong. I like your theory though awesome job!

Can you do a video about what all powers Spike could have gotten in the Power_Ponies episode of the MLP FIM show instead of making him look like comic relief behind Twilight Sparkle and her friends which made me hate this episode?

So this means that chrysalis's unreformed self isn't even fully developed either. So ladies and gentlemen if this new chrysalis is your butterfly then the old chrysalis is your caterpillar.

Hey sawtooth maybe that timeline was because moon queen was not evil yet

Ok so this may be a normal question but Pls make a video of it because when twilight became the new queen of equestria what happened to her canterlot prep friends since she needed to be in equestria every day?

This timeline was before Luna turned into nightmare moon?

This is great it’s like my little ponies what if ?

I actually have a theory

What if Twilights student actually caused the fight between ponies I mean she did disliked friendship in the first place right?

Wait several questions and suggestions on videos like what would happen if star light goes back and stops him from getting his cutee mark, where is Discord now, where are the elements, can ponies now become curropted like luna i am sorry probably boring you just to many problems

And how is princess luna back from the moon?

why are princes Luna and princes celestial alive in the human time line since they are around 1000 years old when humans only live up to around 120 years but the average is around 80 years

When starlight stoped rainbow dash's rain boom night mare moon was EVIL! So how DID celestia free her, or whoever did?

Reminder that her name is Muffins. Calling her D*rpy is very offensive to her and disabled people and is considered a slur which is why her name was changed canonically

SHE.DID

The roast on chrisalis 6:14 😆😂😂😂

I want a heart form u sawtooth waves!!!!

Enbyfolks love it!

I think you Are right bc we never saw hos she reformed

Btw, discord took place BEFORE nightmare moon. Nightmare moon happened after discord was turned to stone. Did u forget that the sister found the elements to defeat discord? And Celestia already had them to stop nightmare moon. So yeah discord happened long before the mane sox and so did nightmare moon obviously. Celestia still would banished nightmare moon and the story goes on without the name six

Season two episode one Celestia says me and Luna fight discord so in that universe were discords wins that means they lost

because discord was turned to stone before luna became nightmare moon

Here’s a video idea: what does the human world look like now.. with the whole segregation thing that was happening in equestria.. how does that transfer over to the human world?

0:19 yah right... well before you "quit"😏 will you make a theory on how tirek wasn't defeated?

Make a episode about another stain glass window in the future

SAWTOOTH I MISSED YOUUUUUUUUU

sawtooth, I don't understand this video! Sawtooth, can you please an understandable video about who is Gusty The Great?

I thought that timeline scene happened before she was banished to the moon.

Discord was first then night mare moon came in and it was before he turned to stone

I have so many questions/ theories about the new movie

if it was 1 timeline as you said. then wouldn't there only be 2 timelines then. ! is the original and the other one is connected somehow?

Why does flurry heart as a baby look different from those two babies from the bakery

Maybe it's never have a nightmare moon at the first place because celestia can't find the element too vanish discord or all the the villian in another timeline or something like that.

I like the first theory

3:41 why does Scootaloo not have her wings?

Hmmm..
Maybe Nightmare Moon never existed. She never got jealous of her sister? Hmmmmm…..

Theory: What if Luna herself did not corrupt before discord the cutie mark crusaders may have not been the one to set discord free could've been multiple ponies or any pony for a matter of fact we know that discord became stone BEFORE luna became nightmare moon {Mabye..? tell me if i'm wrong} it's possible some other ponies set discord free even before she corrupted there are to many questions towards these timelines and you always seem to wow me thinking of things i never even looked closely into,i lve you're work and i'm always looking for more from u ^_^

Can you do a video about what spitfires nickname could be pleasssssssssssssse

Why is Derpy the one with the crown!?! That’s way more dangerous than all the other villain (reformed and not reformed ) combined!

in a place where dicord rules it means that luna neveer turned into nightmare moon

NICE! I love your observation

i think nightmare moon got free because of the stars but idk if twilight sparkle can defete 'nightmare moon' because acording to my mr. milk 'that anything is possible like if your a god you can defete nightmare moon'
thats all

Which villian or villians do yiu think created the desolate timeline?

oh sawtooth LUNA WASN"T NIGHTMAR MOON BACK THEN

I don,t agree . In alternative timeline celestia was not ruling and Luna did not have any reason to be nightmare moon

ummm, wasn't the fight between celestian and luna and Discord?, and then after that luna became nightmare moon?

Que bacana

Wait a minute I thought discord came BEFORE princess Luna becomes nightmare moon and that means that Luna didn't get to become nightmare moon because there's already chaos

No hate tho

I think princess luna was reformed by a new mane six

Maybe nightmare moon was not reform maybe it’s just you know before discord then nightmare moon so that’s why Luna was there in the episode princess twilight sparkle when she drink the potion Luna was there with Princess Celeste

😎 cool!!

Could night mare moon not possible be there. The main six wouldn't be born

But that doesn’t make sense those two are completely different timelines one time line is what would happen if they didn’t stop nightmare moon and the other one is if they hadn’t stopped dicorn

is luna and celestia still around in gen 5 if they are that means tha twilight is too

It can be That celasia Return Nightmare Moon to Luna because After 1000 years she learn how to do that.

... You Still In Winter? It's Nearly February's End Ya Know?

uhm I thought Luna turned into nightmare moon AFTER banishing discord to stone....

I've still been wondering what happened to Twilight Sparkle in the timelines when she failed the exam (failed to hatch Spike) [no sonic rainboom].
What was she doing during the war with the Crystal Empire?
Chrystalis' rule?
Nightmare Moon's rule?
Discord's rule?
etc.

In "The Cutie Re-Mark", we only saw Twilight Sparkle cross over from the original timeline. She didn't looked up her alternate self.
[Marty McFly never met the version of himself who was supposed to be in a boarding school.]

Wait cilesia mention that she isn't connected to the elements no more maybe that's how Nightmare Moon was free and Discord because any spell that's she used with the elements it became undone

You are BRILLIANT

YOOOOOOOO!!! Luna theory!!! great video!

This was before she became nightmare moon

im thinking a bit that maybe tirek also could have been in that but idk

Give me time to think about this 🤔

Hey Saw tooth what happen to the griffins, dragons, yaks, and changelings in MLP A new Generation?

I think the elements of harmony was just did not last for ever so star just aid and Luna just came before discord show up

What if she never did become night mear moon

I think Grogar let nightmare moon out

discord was baned before nightmare moon

In that timelime. maybe things changed and she wasnt nightmare moon!

Luna became nightmare moon before Luna and Celestia knew Discord-?

Princess Celestia made a timer To release princess Luna

Moonshine.🌙

I think I read a fanfiction about this exact situation

I know I know that nightmare moon is reformed by celestia and DISCORT by ......... discord HELPED celestia reform nightmare moon to luna that's why she is playing . They became friends.

Maybe discord reformed her with chaos🤡

Maby discord just thanos snapped her

Or maybe every single timeline happen in a different year or in a different month it’s possible

because luna and celestia stoped discord before luna turn into nigtmare moon

💖

Ok, one question
How da fak Flim and Flam rule the world in their timeline???
I mean, they can be unicorns, but don't have the enough power to beat Discord, Nightmare moon or even Celestia 🤔

I thought they defeated discord before she was nightmare moon?????

Simple: he’s discord

LittleshyFim would love this Derpy

i think it was her dad who fred her or it was gargord because he turned into the stars and so he propule got vanished and wanted revenge so i think he tryed to free her to get revenge maby i am rong or i might be right

How is princess luna back to normal from nightmare moon?

Wait i just realized. Where are the crystal ponies in mlp new generation!?

Wait how did she change because she was different

You got no problem just you want to continue your theories on it and videos

because celestia will die someday (ik sad) and she needs somebody to carry on the elements and keep them safe

Hmmm yes new sawtooth theory

Okay now my brain hurts

Derpy is god ngl good theory

Uh did you know that discord going to stone before Luna's turned to nightmare moon right

Actually that time when Luna was not nightmare Moon she was not nightmare Moon yet that’s why

This is a interesting theory

I think that no-one released night mare moon maybe she was released by magic , there's always been a 1000 years thing so maybe magic whithers away around a 1000 years
Brohoof

Yey back to time line's! Owo

Chrysalis got ROASTED

Completely unrelated to this video in the episode where they reenacted the older Equestria where Celestia and Luna weren’t there yet why are they on the flag?

Maybe she wanted twilight to do it so she can learn friendship

I think my brain is going to explode.

That was before luna became night mare moon

What if in the discord timeline she never became nightmare moon?

Her sister freed her

I got a question k so yk when the human twilight is a unicorn in equestria right and then when she powers up she has wings ????? WINGS

night mair moon never done she was loved all the time but day bracer

Anybody know where to find season 5-8?

When discord first came nightmare moon wasn't here yet

❤️

Discord got free before Luna Walst bolth of the sister’s arrival fighting Luna wouldn’t have the jealousy to celestia

what if Luna was no banished at all!!

Discord came before Nightmare Moon

0:20 thats what drug addicts says and yet they cant

So, your saying chrysalis can’t exist without help?

Love you😍

Discord had the elements , maybe he used them

This came out the day before my birthday

Do remember, that different things happen in the past, from the smallest difference can led to different results in the future

Don’t you mean Mane-shift six

Did you know that princess Celestia is married to scorpan

Like the video

What do you mean the forces of good?

Wait but what if the cuitemark crusaders didn’t meet if the rainboom didn’t happen I mean maybe applejack stayed in manhattan and then applebloom went there to or maybe rarity and her family would not live in ponyville and then sweetiebell wouldn’t be there. But it the cutiemark crusaders didn’t meet then they weren’t the ones who broke discords stone prison so who did?

Luna is best girl

What do you think Luna would be like if she never became Nightmare Moon? Is Princess_Cadence the only Alicorn without a dark side?

Which villains would win in a fight in a free of all? Let me know who and why😈

Wouldn't discord not be free cause qithought a mane 6 there still control the elements so discord won't be free

Derpy time derpy time derpy time

hey in discord timline it might be Luna is good and never turned into nightmare moon

were the elements even found u think princeusse luna turned to nightmare moon becuse of the sonic rainboom but think about it when the elements were use on discord luna was thier but in a wolrd where the sonic rainboom dident happen would the elements change magic and symblos u ask questions about timelines but heres the thing u dident consirerd if luna and celista never found the elements and use them agaist discord would luna even turn into nightmare moon in the first place Noo bc celista and luna would of tryed fighting discord so nightmare moon couldent be reformed in this timeline bc thiers no nightmare moon Nightmare moon was never thier bc discord had so munch power that he could of just hide the elements and then destoy the realm so the timeline where thiers no sonic rainboom thier could also be no nightmare moon or unless they could be if luna tranformed into nightmare moon being fed up of discord turning discord into stone and making sure celiste doesent find the elments of harmony again traps her sister in a moon and then finds the elements and keep thems in her castle for hiding

Maybe he sicssdid the first time and Luna didn't become jealous?

Unless the time of Discord was before she was Nightmare-moon

Please, make a theory about Sunny Starscout's father. I have a feeling he's a very mysterious and interesting pony who must know a lot about Equestria and the Mane 6.
I have been looking at his things in their house, in the movie, like ancient maps of Equestria and I think I noticed a book that showed a picture of the Tree of Harmony.
Like, what if he's from a lineage of ponies who knew how to put all three pony types together, just like you told in your theory about what happened to Twilight?
And he was with the earth ponies artifact, that's mysterious, right?

Moonbeam.🌞

How old are you? I'm not being rude but i want to prove my dad that even gronw up like My little Pony

You're making a lot of assumptions here.

This doesn’t make sense because the regular time line Luna got free on her own but other time line thare is no nightmare moon I can see discord freeing her but why will we ever now

Make miraclous theories pls you would figure everthing out maybe another channel

That was probably before nightmare moon

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good to see my first on time video

How old do you think Spike would be in the new generation if he still be able to be around I mean just look at the last dragon lord he was big and he had to be old

But that was before luna was nightmare moon

I was rlly starting to miss the long videos

Before Luna was ever night mare moon

Maybe luna was not nightmare moon maybe this was when they went to discord and failed sorry for being derpy. :3

What happened to sunny after the movie?

Yes go derby!

Hmmm this actually makes sense
WHO knows meaby in a couple of years you wil replace matpat or at least help

I am a big fan

I have a question you know the MLP movie what happens to the portal the twilight went threw and what happens to canterlot high

I'm the 1000th comment HAHAHAHA

About the makeshift theory, derpy can probably oneshot all they needed was their assigned element, lmao.

discord do be vibin tho

you mean... lunaverse?

You have a sis?
... good for you!

Wait didn't Celestia say Discord got free by that she and Luna din't have controll over the elements anymore and it was because the mane six had the controll now?

Or it is a mistake from Hasbro and it wasn't intended

I’m a changeling too!

Derpy is the best ofc ahaha

And we never saw twilight at any of them ??????🤔😶🦄

Mlp for me makes no sench but i whood love to see that princess Luna And princess Celestia make colts happy as clowns

What happened to discord in the new MLP

But- but if there no main 6 or à New main 6 the élément couldn't be here- there Stone like on the first épisodes 🤔

Simple answer the mane six probably just reformed nightmare moon and then discord probably took over simple answer

GROGAR FREED NIGHTMARE MOON

Sir waves are u okay again

She could not of become night mare moon.🌜😈

Maybe it didn’t happen in the timeline

Whats going on with cutie marks in a new genertion. Cutie marks could be a diffrent kind of ancient magic thats not in the crystels but nobody knows.

Well that's before she turns into nightmare moon u dude earth pony

but what abot cozy gloe did she got her time line

0:44 turn on your subtitle :)

She came cus it was the 1000 day

Check out the work of Saw Waves

Ha, get wrecked Chrysalis! XD

Discord was before night mare moon

that's so complexed 🤯😵‍💫😵‍💫

I like this

Sweet. I’m early. I’m on a plane so I’ll watch it when we land. We haven’t taken off yet

Princess of muffins

What button I have to press for a date with you?

I think you are right. and by the way i am a kid and a big fan of you

It’s been such a long time since I wanted you

If the rainboom does not happen would that mean the mane six have different cutee mix???

But then in our timeline..How could she go back if 1 timeline celestia is imprisoned and 1 she is reformed?

If you know my favorites i like Applejack derpy and someone live in the farm with red hair a girl

That’s the past

🌻" & enby folks " 🥺💕

😠 so not true what are you talking about the mane 6 reformed nightmare moon end of story!!
Just saying that's all!

But discord was before nightmare moon

Please make such a video only in russian

Supporting 6. Do is that good name?

HOW SHE WAS REFORMed is because she growed up and her her is a wavy mane then that is similar to nightmare moon with good power so thats how she got reformed

Can you use it in a sentence please.

In the clip you show with discord. Nightmare moon not born yet. But then bad guys took over each lands they where at in 1st episode they show in. And with battle or fake battle means more love or friendship. Because most see her fighting beside nightmare moon clip. Only how with discord how he got out of jail. This part have to take part after season 2 where they beat discord. And remember saying that 2 princess say we not remember discord after mane 6 battle. But lot of that know for saying like Disney princess alway say to keep us safe. Discord review next plz, on same clip you are showing here. Otherwise glad in normal world of mlp discord and Luna is good. Cat believe mlp with out to funny side pony’s or whatever you call them.

I think this happened before the hole drama

Next up : why luna can say the n word

I remember when you were brony notion 😭

Uhh can you use it in a full sentence please.

Touch his waist I know this is a devout Caribbean but I was walking the new mind that a pony movie again and I knows there is a picture of stars worlds the bearded when they were showing Sunny's dad making that dingy it was behind a bunch of boxes really hard to notice maybe maybe stars where the B day lived for that long

Derpy is kind
Derpy is nice
Derpy is the community
Derpy is us
Derpy is you
Be like Derpy

Luna tandon tonight moon later when discount was defeated

Luna wolf in a full moon like a wolf 🐺

discord stole the elements

And I want question if we need to defeat like my moon then why did night my moon game to celestial and she is a beautiful and kind princess I think this is I can think even more because night mode is son of the sister I mean she is only

Since you did a video about why Rainbow Dash doesn't deserve her element, can you do a similar video about Rarity since it's hard to tell that she is generous since acts very picky about small things, she acts like she was born in Canterlot and she takes full advantage of Spike's crush for her? Along with Twilight Sparkle who cares more about books than anything else and who is an abuser when she's with Spike. Don't take it the wrong way but if you've seen the show real carefully, you'd know what I mean

OMG MY FAV

She is reformed by celestiala beacuse celestiala didn't no how reformed Luna before now she knows how to reaform with the elements of hormey

Still bothering you sorry but you think cadence is the alicorn of love you are right but you are wrong about flurry heart the alicorn hope she was born a alicorn to bring the people hope think about love and hope are what the crystal heart is about they had love cadence but no true pure hope so the HEART blessed cadence and equstria with the alicorn of hope one step closer to embodying all mental traits into a powerful embodiment

Good theories.

#SawtoothWavesSquad

It was before nightmare moon

00:59
I regret putting on captions

My man literally rosted Crystalis
(Too lazy to fix her name)
((Not that I care😏✨))

Seen that art before

I’m At school so I gotta watch this later when I’m home

Omg 😱

I watch all your videos and u post I have to watch your videos

about scorpion My Little pony and what happens to to Queen Chrysalis when starlight defeats her and after she makes his clothes at the My Little pony the five the six friends what happens to her after that what do you think happens and and in the movie like what do you think who why were they all like why didn't the map show all those places even before they went there because like wouldn't that map show you the entire world though first I think that's weird and in the future twice hair starts slowing like Alessia and lunas did and starlight she gets the entire School of friendship in the future and gets married to whatever his name is I'm guessing twilight's purple is related to them cuz she has her skin and and he has her hair his hair like it's obvious and who's the very first bad guy in this world who is it hope you can find out

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Um, i have a request. Whom did Twilight actually married. Because the pony Twilight actually loves the human Flash but the human Twilight loves another guy. So I really wanted to know whom Twilight actually married to. Can you tell me

Ur my favorite YouTuber please reply 😭💕