While watching this video, I was only thinking about one incident that occurred: Nightmare Moon appearing in Starlight’s nightmare (A Royal Problem). But then again, it wasn’t real. I just like to address this, since it’s basically the only way Nightmare Moon appeared without Twilight or her friends. So, in summary, Nightmare Moon in Starlight’s nightmare isn’t real, because it was a dream. Therefore, it should be excluded.


The intro in the beginning just made me way too happy


I wonder what if in the alternative timelines could the mane 6 that we know of still be reunited


I am wondering if all the alternate timelines were actually the same one. Since Starlight unleashed a time spell, Twilight and Spike could've returned to the same timeline again and again, but just at different points in that timeline. Another thing I would like to see is how each of the villains could've played off each other.

Here is another video that tries to explain how each timeline came to be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfLM4gLikg0


These theories can have your head hurting but I love them anyway 👍


In the Discord timeline, was Luna ever Nightmare Moon?<br>Everyone assumes that breaking the Rainboom changes the future, but maybe it just opens a timeline where Celestia and Luna never defeated Discord in the first place.

In the Discord timeline, was Luna ever Nightmare Moon?
Everyone assumes that breaking the Rainboom changes the future, but maybe it just opens a timeline where Celestia and Luna never defeated Discord in the first place.


So I don't know time lines well but couldn't this scenario predate the Statue event?  Like what if Luna didn't need to be reformed in the first place because the sisters were to busy having to live with a version of Discord that they could not stop so there wouldn't be a main 6 either because the world would probably to out of order to allow it or something I don't know it's just a thought.


What's interesting is that G1 and G4 are very close to each other to the point that stuff can leak from one to the other. So what if in the nightmare moon timeline the rainbow of darkness leaked into equestria (this also means that the rainbow of light will never be at full power.).


I really like your theories. It makes it seam like the people that made My little pony really put some thought into it, It’s interesting.


Personally I think she never even turned into nightmare moon, Discord probably invaded before she had the chance to turn evil.


Great job this week sawtooth. Im not sure about an answer but yours sounds pretty good


0:15 - 0:18
"Phillies, colts, and enby folks"
WE STAND SAWTOOTH FOR THAT <3


In my opinion Discord with how evil he was (Misunderstood?) I feel like Celestia  and Luna would be basically useless in the show. I mean they hardly did anything besides give guidance to Twilight and her friends but what I'm trying to say is Discord balances out the Mane 6 and Celestia and Luna in a way. I feel that without Discord the show would be in limbo because  the show is called Friendship is magic and Twilight, Applejack, Rarity, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, and Fluttershy all played a part in turning one of the show's villans into a friend of theirs. Also Discord is the embodiment of chaos itself. It only makes sense (At least to me) that he can remove corruption and bend it to his will. Also not including Twilight, Discord is the strongest in Equestria.


There’s also the possibility that celestial was able to just put her back into the moon


my theory is that stars are the souls of dead ponies, the brightest stars are the most important ponies, and so the stars aiding in her escape was some of the most important ponies in history helping her to be reformed by the elements :)


I think that Nightmare moon's banishment was a time limited spell (like the royal sisters cutie mark change by Starlight just longer).This would mean that she returned in every timeline. Also when Discord returned Celestia said "I thought the spell we cast would keep him contained forever but since Luna and I are no longer connected to the elements the spell has been broken" and "although Luna and I once wielded the elements it is you who now control their power". I think it means that Discord would only return if someone other than princesses started controling the elements for example reforming Nightmare moon and that's why she was Luna in Discord's timeline. That is just my interpretation.
<br>I also want to say that you are fantastic and your ideas are great.

I think that Nightmare moon's banishment was a time limited spell (like the royal sisters cutie mark change by Starlight just longer).This would mean that she returned in every timeline. Also when Discord returned Celestia said "I thought the spell we cast would keep him contained forever but since Luna and I are no longer connected to the elements the spell has been broken" and "although Luna and I once wielded the elements it is you who now control their power". I think it means that Discord would only return if someone other than princesses started controling the elements for example reforming Nightmare moon and that's why she was Luna in Discord's timeline. That is just my interpretation.
I also want to say that you are fantastic and your ideas are great.


Sawtooth… you have an “alternate timelines” problem

my whole life is an "alternate timelije problem"


This "alternative" time-line is the PAST Twilight drank a potion given to her by Zecora


Y'know, I was wondering... Chrysalis and Thorax both have incect-related names. Was Sawtooth named by their parent or did they come up with the name themself?


In season 4's first 2 episodes we see that the discord attack happened before the main six were born and so in season 2 when discord returns that would have happened after the rainboom and again in season 4 we learn that the discord attack happened before nightmare moon so in a world full of chaos luna would'nt feel the way she was when she turned into nightmare moon, and I rest my case.


I actually like this better than the other idea I had for these timelines.


That's a great theory, even if it's only based on something we see in a world of pure chaos. This Luna may be an illusion made by Discord to mess with Celestia


Have you ever read the fanfic “wrong place at the right time” by little Jackie papercut on fimfiction? The basic premise was that prior to the summer sun celebration daring doo took the elements of harmony from the ever free forest to a museum in manehatten and when nightmare moon was released the ponies that ended up representing the elements were aunt orange, octavia, daring doo, blossom forth, trixie, and twilight sparkle, who was there because the celebration was happening in manehatten instead in this au.


It is possible that Celestia knew that Nightmare Moon would be freed regardless. I think that Celestia knew that Twilight and her friends have the ability to be powerful, so then, because of that, Celestia didn't free Nightmare Moon herself. Nightmare Moon would be released either way, but since there's no Mane 6, Celestia herself reformed Luna.


This is completely unrelated but I think if they ever had made Sombra become good in g4 Princess Luna definitely would have been the perfect pony to reform him,
she knows what it feels like to feel un appreciated and long for more power, as well as of course they both turned evil. She could help to teach Sombra what she used to not realise, they were loved and appreciated by ponies by just being them and their jobs were still very special.
Plus their aesthetics kinda match as they both link to darkness and the night, and powerful mysterious magic.

𝐀𝐝𝐨𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐄𝐥𝐢𝐳𝐚 🤍🎄


What if though, the elements of harmony just set a 1,000 year timer for when Nightmare Moon would escape?


i also wonder in the alternative universes how come luna wasn’t the only ruler to take over or the first one seen i could understand another villain defeating her but NMM shows up later on even though she was the first antagonist


um actually bringing discord to theories is very tricky, remember that he can snap his fingers and all the reality can change.
Nightmare moon can be hypnotize, tirek can be neutralized before he'll grow ect.
villains always need the element of surprise to defeat him


Hi this might not be related to the topic of this video but I just wanted to share this theory I thought of btw I might be wrong this is just something I thought of btw if doesent make sense I’m sorry:  I just had a theory and I hope you listen : in the episode where twilight  is crowned a alicorn when twilight walks across to princess Celestia but when twilight  sparkle stood in front of celestia celestia said something like : twilight has proven herself worthy, challenge after challenge twillight  has proven she has to take on new types of challenges today twilight has invented a new type of magic (friendship)” ( the theory of celestia and Luna not being allicorns until they raised the sun/ moon proved that they were worthy because they had the power to raise the sun and moon because when the unicorns (not Celestia or Luna) had to raise the moon and sun there energy was drained but celestia and Luna were fine proving they are worthy and good for leaders of equestria but twilight invented new magic (friendship) proving she is worthy of being a princess/ allicorn and Candace spreaded love everywhere she went proving she was also ready and that she was a good ruler for the Chrystal empire cause what protected the Chrystal empire was love and Princess  Candance magic was love, proving she was worthy to be a princess (princess= alicorn | I know this doesent prove why flurry heart is a alicorn but the fact that she’s called flurry heart and not princess flurry heart just says that she will have to prove herself worthy and maybe when she does she will be the ruler of the crystal empire

I hope you consider these theories and I’m very sorry for anything that was not spelled correctly and I also apologised for the awful grammar and punctuation

Oh and also I have a theory how Luna turned into nightmare moon / how you could turn evil as a allicorn And I’ll tell you now:

So basically in the sun and moon problem (the episode is called Princsss Twilight Sparkle ) we saw when twillight drank the potion she saw that Luna raised the moon over the sun even tho it wasent meant to be night so basically what Luna did was do the opposite of her duty so if celestia put the sun over the moon I’m thinking she would turn into day breaker (of course you might say to me Luna was jealous so if celestia put the sun over the moon without feeling jealous it might not work well guess what that’s a great reason but the only reason why Luna raised the moon over the sun was because she was mad / jealous causing her to turn into nightmare moon so I’m thinking if cadence / twillight / celestia did the opposite of their duty they would turn into evil ponies

Sorry again for bad punctuation grammar or spelling and your welcome to have other theories I respect them but this is a theory I thought of (also if you thought about this too dont get mad I’m not claiming the theory but I don’t know anyone who has thought of this and I so happened to think of this theory

Btw this is just a theory I could be wrong😅


OMG ! I never thought about it till you made this video ! Thanks Sawtooth !


You need to do a video for all of the timelines! I adore the idea of an exploration of how each villain came out on top of the others!


In the discord timeline she wasbt freed, discord took em right when they met the first time

human from the solar system planet called earth


Well, discord could only escape the statue form because the mane six took over the elements of harmony. <br>So the fact that discord would be free with out the rainbow doesn’t really make much sense 🤷🏼♀

Well, discord could only escape the statue form because the mane six took over the elements of harmony.
So the fact that discord would be free with out the rainbow doesn’t really make much sense 🤷🏼♀


Nightmare Moon was freed by four imps who were assigned by the head imp to go to the moon and free her. Discord was freed by a fight between Applebloom and Diamond Tiara but an imp named Handy Dandy censored the story believing that it was the CMC fighting that released him. Chrysalis came to Cantarlot and crashed the wedding just as the head imp predicted. Tirek was released by Illy the imp. So I think it was the imps behind everything.


episode 1, season 2. "The Return of Harmony Part 1" time: 5:45

You guys just didn't notice that Discord's timeline starts with Princess Celestia and Luna's reign. Meaning she hadn't been banished to the moon yet. Sorry for spoiling the fun, but there was no possible timeline where Luna and discord fight.


It then came down to the legendary cutie mark crusadars to refrom Nightmare,which they did ever so effortlessly.Alas like all the greats they too fell to the foul beast discord ,and now and rotting away in the statue gardens where they fred disscord himself.A tragic tale.


I honestly dont think Nightmare moon or Luna were evil ever
Luna started Nightmare moon out of jealousy and hatred but before that she never harmed her sister she just became bitter
Then when she used a powerful probably Alicorn magic spell on herself aka nightmare moon things got out of hand
Instead of only making night eternal she’s gone haywire and then her other personality became her only personality
Nightmare moon
I think thats why Celestia had to ban her sister
It was a fresh spell casted by Luna herself and Luna is very powerful
So even if Celestia wanted she probably couldn’t remove the spell
I’d be too damaging to Luna since again it was freshly attached to her and Nightmare moon is like a virus in my opinion
Cursing the one who casted the spell and feeding of their power
But because she was banned for 1K year Nightmare couldn’t like do a lot of evil
But Luna herself has already been weakened greatly
So after years of being banned
The mane 6 could bring her back with the magic
One pony cant do such a feat
A banning spell could destroy the elements but ig if casted by an Alicorn and send to a habitat its less risky for Celestia
After that when Nightmare was ripped from Luna we saw that she looked like a foal again
No flowing hair
She looked like a younger self
Less powerful
And back to her emotions and being vulnerable


Better idea, there was no corruption magic, as it was never mentioned in the show. Exept in the Nightmare Moon time line, Luna simple snaped out of her childish temper tantrum. Meaning the Mane 6 were never needed to deal with her and the sisters bested all other villains before the one victorious.


I just realized.. In the barren timeline... That might have been when starlight succeeded in removing all cutie marks from equestria INCLUDING the royal sisters, which blows up in her face..
Either A. no pony is able to raise/lower the moon/sun  leading to things just dying overtime.
Or B.  The collected marks in one place cause a sort of magic EXPLOSION that destroyed everything on the planet.


if the forces of good had some kind of foresight and realised “oh heck, we need to bail out nightmare moon now” why wouldnt they have predicted any other villian


How would Discord be free though? The Cutie Mark Crusaders were the reason he was able to break free and I don’t think the CMC would have met without the mane 6 so I think there may be another way he broke free 😟

@A Nerd with a Switch I also kind of agree

@Edvin Sebastian oh yeah that actually makes sense

I don't think they were the full reason why he was able to return. I can't buy that in a whole thousand years, no chaos happened in front of his statue whatsoever? I think the CMC were merely the final straw, and that the true reason was because Celestia and Luna were no longer connected to the Elements that they used to turn him into stone.

I personally think that it's the other way around; the CMC didn't inadvertently free Discord, but rather his seal was already weakening and he used what magic he could to incite an argument and help push it over the edge. And according to Celestia, his seal was weakening because the Elements had new bearers, but we don't know if it's been weakening since Nightmare Moon's banishment, when Celestia and Luna stopped being able to wield the Elements, or since Luna's reformation, when the Mane 6 got ahold of them.<br>Personally, I like the idea that Discord's seal had been weakening ever since Nightmare Moon was banished, but the chaos of her return sped along the process.

I personally think that it's the other way around; the CMC didn't inadvertently free Discord, but rather his seal was already weakening and he used what magic he could to incite an argument and help push it over the edge. And according to Celestia, his seal was weakening because the Elements had new bearers, but we don't know if it's been weakening since Nightmare Moon's banishment, when Celestia and Luna stopped being able to wield the Elements, or since Luna's reformation, when the Mane 6 got ahold of them.
Personally, I like the idea that Discord's seal had been weakening ever since Nightmare Moon was banished, but the chaos of her return sped along the process.


My theory is that Celestia COULD use the Elements, but she chose to bring about new users because the fall of Luna showed a flaw In only having two users. There is also the detrimental effects of such a large serge of magic in a single being, even an Alicorn.


Actually Luna became nightmare moon After Discord ,as it's shown in one episode before the mane 6 were ever born

Celstia and Luna were working Togehter in order to defeat Discord , Luna and Celsetia Ruled Together for a really ling time before night mate moon came which was after discord


i personally dont think the cutie mark crusaders would become friends without the mane six being friends, but discord would break out of stone at some point anyways or if the cmc cutie marks are destiny, then probably they would become friends. but in the main timeline it could be destiny, but in another its not? idk theres so many possibilities


It's gotta suck to be living in a world that's going from chaotic to eternal darkness to infested with huge bugs.


I like that but I’m sorry, there’s no way nightmare moon has any ability to defeat discord. She’s hella weak lol


Everyone minding their own business:

Sawtooth waves: “Illuminati confirmed, nightmare moons a time traveler, there was a disaster in an alternate timeline, dr who has died before-“

Us: “done?”

Sawtooth waves: “only halfway through”


I just always assumed that scene happened back before she was corrupted. Alternatively, maybe she never got corrupted, perhaps because the sisters never defeated Discord.

Everything before the rainboom was the same so no


I’m just thinking of another possibility, but, I remember that sawtooth made that one video explaining how grogar was the tars that aided in nightmare moon’s escape

Imagine if grogar just let nightmare moon free just for an epic showdown


A genius doesn’t always find the right theory. But he asks the right questions; thereby advancing the rest of us so we may find the right theory after all. I love your videos, keep them coming!

I think the Makeshift Six is an interesting and funny suggestion but maybe we don’t need them.  Discord being freed from his stone prison by a change of ownership of the elements of harmony is not entirely consistent I believe. Celestia and Luna used these elements to petrify Discord and later Celestia used the elements to imprison Luna in/ on the Moon. Magic is driven by friendship, love and probably the sisterly bond between the Princesses. Celestia using the elements against Luna is certainly breaking their bond. Wouldn’t that weaken the magic they used against Discord? Furthermore, if transferring the elements to the Mane Six lead to Discord breaking out of his cage, why didn’t it happen right away in season 1?

So Discord breaking free can’t have been directly related to the transfer of the elements of harmony. The first Discord episode suggests that disharmony in close vicinity to Discord – the fight of the CMC – weakened his cage. In another timeline, this weakening may not have happened at all or may have been caused by another event. It may even have happened before the ‘scheduled’ release of Luna.

So what if Discord was ‘out’ before Luna and there were no Mane Six to fight him? I imagine Celestia may have been desperate enough to free Luna prematurely, reform her by … simply forgiving her and ask her to join her using the elements against Discord as they did before. Discord didn’t seem to know the elements the first time he was caged, but now that the element of surprise is gone, the match may be more even. Celestia's attempt may have failed. I presume that in the absence of the Mane Six, Discord is a greater thread than Nightmare Moon.

One may ask why Celestia released Discord in ‘Keep Calm and Flutter On’ to let Twilight and her friends try to reform him if he is an enemy with such great powers. Likewise, why did she disappear during the release of Nightmare Moon when Celestia could have foreseen this event? I guess Celestia recognises – or maybe gambles – on the power of the Mane Six being greater than that of both enemies.
I always believed that Celestia has been moulding Twilight into her role of successor from the very start. So Celestia consciously put Twilight to the test so she could develop her powers on her own. This means that in the Mane timeline it was safe for her to stand by idly while Nightmare Moon and Discord wreaked havoc. But in an alternative timeline – without the Mane Six – she needed to prioritise and thus reached out to Luna in an attempt to beat Discord.


Y'know what I think would be an interesting topic to consider? Here it is:
What would've happened to the Villain Statue? What happened to the villains trapped inside? Would their magic be as equally drained as from the ponies? And, if most magic had faded, what would be keeping the statue in place (if it's still in place at all)? Not to mention the other species.
Just think, Sawtooth: What would've happened to Thorax and our- cough the changeling queen?

Y'know what I think would be an interesting topic to consider? Here it is:
What would've happened to the Villain Statue? What happened to the villains trapped inside? Would their magic be as equally drained as from the ponies? And, if most magic had faded, what would be keeping the statue in place (if it's still in place at all)? Not to mention the other species.
Just think, Sawtooth: What would've happened to Thorax and our- *cough* the changeling queen?


it's more then a linear path, it's and endless prison, of endless possibilities, where one decision can branch out into new realities


Actually, Celestia had reformed Luna but in the real timeline, Celestia just wanted them to start starting friendships and a pony of friendship  forms as they became best friends after the fight


Celestia and Luna had to deal with Discord way before the Mane 6 were around. He run amuck and they the 2 sisters found the elements and used them to defeat him, turn him to stone. That is in the past, just as the flashbacks prove in S4 finale. This was before Luna turned into Nightmare moon and was banished.


6:55 i think this is true but a twist so after celestia vanised luna to the moon she still got rid of the elements of harmony a long long time after i think in this time line she did not got rid of it so it could been her self who free her and she fought but lost


Sawtooth waves named all the possibilities on how nightmare moon was freed but it is a possibility that luna never turned into nightmare moon and never had to reform and never got banished.


Tbh the theory of all the AUs being gauntlets between all the villains and the one who wins being the primary conflict of that au is interesting, as it could explain the final world that Twi and Starlight enter, a world possibly  destroyed by the war between the villains where no villain came on top...


Now I'm waiting for another video titled "How did Discord break out without The Cutie Mark Crusaders"

What you think he just happened to break out at the exact same time the CMC's were being chaotic?

Now I'm waiting for another video titled "How did Discord break out without The Cutie Mark Crusaders"

What you think he just happened to break out at the exact same time the CMC's were being *chaotic?*


Celestia does at one point in the show say that she is capable of handling a lot of the things she sends Twilight to fix... she just sends Twilight and her friends because she's training Twilight to take her place.


I’m confused, Didn’t Discord break out cuz Princess Celestia wasn’t connected to the elements before? Then how would he have broken out in the first place?


Celestia released nightmare moon herself as a “test” for the mane 6 (but mainly Twilight and her becoming a princess) . Lauren Faust has suggested this on her Twitter before.


i have(* I think) the best theory how this all was possible and it makes ton of sense


Is that what DJ looks like without her glasses? Also I completely forgot that she was a unicorn, I always thought she was an earth pony.


What would have happened if we saw Spike helping Luna fitting in Equestria  after being free from Nightmare Moon since they're both outcasts among the other ponies? Do you think they could have been best friends?


Maybe when discord planted the seeds they grown faster so he could take down both princess celestial and Luna before Luna turned into nightmare moon


Chrysalis was also the only one who almost got defeated by their rival (Starllight) in the mane timeline. Tirek wipe the floor with the pillars and the mane six + the sisters didn't really do much against cozyglow.


so this is probably unlikely but what if there wasn't actually 7 different outcomes because of the mane 6 never coming together, but instead only one different outcome?

like think about it for a second, the scrole starlight used was created to time travel- sure, technically what we saw was multiple different events that would have happend if the rainboom didn't happen-
but what if instead of them being different outcomes they were actually just different points in time so like in the end when we see that gray waste-land it was what would have happened EVENTUALLY if all the villains got to rule at some point in time in the SAME timeline! :0

(does any of this make sense to anyone?) :^


I don’t think Luna returned just bc the mane 6 were now ready to deal with her. It was simply that her 1000 years were over. She would’ve come back to earth, whether or not the mane 6 were there.


Hi first yes she can reformed without Mane 6 and elements of harmony and it beacuse of love warm heart she was just jealous but if she found out how much her sister loved her she can reformed

i dunno, i think nightmare moon was incapable of love


Well thinking about all the things I have heard this dose get confusing. Although I  hear a lot that it was Celestia that frees Nightmare Moon. Now the only issue I  see with Discord losing to Nightmare Moon is that Discord pretended to be injured from King Sombra. So even if he was "Defeated" by Nightmare Moon I'm sure he had a backup plan. As for removing the corruption... well I go to the comics for help there. Now I know that there non Canon to the show but it explains so much more on Nightmare Moon and Lunas transformation into  her other form. The corruption called  "The Nightmare Force" in my book that it was made by him. If he couldn't remove it would make sense if it merged with Princesses Lunas alicorn magic completely. Were the elements could separate it almost completely leaving the black mark as a stain on her flank. But once again were in question able waters there. Although I always love alternate time line talk. Makes more questions and chaotic stories.


But what if each timeline has the main six in them and maybe some failed and others didn't or maybe some just didn't do anything?


How was discord even free in any timeline because as I remember when discord was free in the original timeline it was because Celestia and Luna  had lost connection with the elements of harmony when the main  six took over as Celestia said herself. So there was literally no way discord could have been freed unless some freed him on purpose. But no one would possibly do that or can do that except Celestia


Why would Discord feel the need to reform NightmareMoon? 2 alicorns can't do much against Discord without elements of harmony, that's how alicorn sisters beat him in the 1st place. But as Nightmaremoon Luna can't use elements


I was waiting for a reason to not do more science homework and your video was uploaded. Thank you 😌✨

@Sawtooth Waves that I shall, as much as I dread it science is very interesting

okay but then do your homework after, yeah?


How was Nightmare-moon release and how was she reformed?

I honestly can’t answer that, let alone make a theory about it, since the show has ended, so your theory is better than my (which means I have no theory since there is little to no evidence to start thinking about a theory to type about).


I find a Mainshift Six reforming Princess Luna Theory is unlikeliest I think the Mixup timeline battle Between nightmare Moon and discord is more likely Because discord must be able To you remove corruption magic, No reason to think he can But there’s also no reason to think he can’t It’s all depends how discord abilities work Which will never know. Or will we? ;)


I think there are only two time lines. One where starlight and twilight are fighting ans the other where there are the villains who took over equestria. As said around 6:20 I believe that twilight was time traveling between the two lines rather than going through several alternate universes. It goes like this that once a villain took over after starlight stopped the rainboom then twilight goes to that time line where the villain is come back and fights starlight and as she fails to fight her she taken to another time in the same other time line where the villains are but this time the first villain is defeated by the other. So like Twilight and Starlight fight then Twilight goes to the othe time line where there is discord comes back goes there again but now there is nightmare moon comes back again goes there but now there is chrysalis comes back goes there again but now there is sombra. Maybe that's how the time line works.


Funny thing im doing math homework rn (I have a lot) now I have a reason to stop 😄


Luna was reformed without The mane 6
I think because he has night magic, we already know that without night, we might get hot and our skin will get sunburned if the sun goes out because it's always daytime.
So when the night comes, we don't have to worry about going out of the house to be afraid of being exposed to the hot sun which burns our skin and the air is colder


Dus see how adorable Sawtooth wave the character actor looks


"Fillies, colts and non binary folks"<br>I like that line ^~^

"Fillies, colts and non binary folks"
I like that line ^~^


The creators making something in peace for an episode:<br>Sawtooth: IMA RUIN THIS MANS CAREER

The creators making something in peace for an episode:
Sawtooth: IMA RUIN THIS MANS CAREER


What about a theory about apple jack parents
What happened to them
Because granny  Smith still lived

But granny smity lived for so much longer <br>I don't think they died for no reason

But granny smity lived for so much longer
I don't think they died for no reason


Sawtooth, I wonder, do you use comics mlp information for your videos? I just haven't noticed any time you mention events happening there. I always thought comics were canon so their  information might be useful in some theories!


Think about it.... Discord could have freed Nightmare Moon even if he can't remove chaos magic, because he stole the elements of harmony which was used to trap her in the moon in the first place.


"Phillies, colts, and enby folks"<br>what kind of poetry genius-

"Phillies, colts, and enby folks"
what kind of poetry genius-


It is possible the normal discord was manipulating the timeline and was aware of twilight’s reality hoping and added a timeline where he won.


I'd imagine nightmare moon would not have enough time or luxury (in that discord timeline) to be corrupted by that magic that made her nightmare. So she reverts to just luna and partners with her sister against a common enemy. Then the split can happen of who wins the fight. If the sisters win, Celestia is too tired from fighting discord to contain or banish luna again and luna goes all nightmare again, thus making the nightmare timeline!!


Discord would not have been freed from stone without the mane 6. We know this because in the episode The return of harmony Part 1 Celestia says this: I thought the spell we cast would keep him contained forever but since Luna and I are no longer connected to the elements the spell has been broken.<br>This means that without the Mane 6 Discord would not have been liberated and Celestia would not have liberated Luna in order to defeat Discord. Nor had it been logical that the enchantment was broken just because Luna became corrupt. Otherwise, Discord would have broken loose a millennium ago, but he did not, which means that Luna still had a connection to the elements. If Celestia had brought together a makeshift 6, the link between the princesses would still have been broken, which is the only way out I see in this dilemma, but it is also not certain that it would have been possible to bring together a makeshift 6 because there may not be another group that could have represented the elements. But we do not know. What we do know is that Discord would not have been liberated without someone or someone taking over the link between the elements of harmony and the princesses.

Discord would not have been freed from stone without the mane 6. We know this because in the episode The return of harmony Part 1 Celestia says this: I thought the spell we cast would keep him contained forever but since Luna and I are no longer connected to the elements the spell has been broken.
This means that without the Mane 6 Discord would not have been liberated and Celestia would not have liberated Luna in order to defeat Discord. Nor had it been logical that the enchantment was broken just because Luna became corrupt. Otherwise, Discord would have broken loose a millennium ago, but he did not, which means that Luna still had a connection to the elements. If Celestia had brought together a makeshift 6, the link between the princesses would still have been broken, which is the only way out I see in this dilemma, but it is also not certain that it would have been possible to bring together a makeshift 6 because there may not be another group that could have represented the elements. But we do not know. What we do know is that Discord would not have been liberated without someone or someone taking over the link between the elements of harmony and the princesses.


The Queen of the Changelings burn got me! 😂


I'm not sure if you've already covered this yet, but who made the Nightmare Moon prophecy/myth?
As far as we know, there are no future-seers(I guess other than Starlight?). Celestia couldn't have been the one who made it, because she wouldn't have known the exact day she found the new wielders of the Element. Perhaps a unicorn with extremely powerful magic could have seen the future, like Starswirl. But Starswirl was trapped in Tartarus even before Luna became Nightmare Moon.
So who made the prophecy?


I Think l've Liked Your Explanation About Discord Freeing Nightmare In One Timeline, And Celestia Another.


I don't buy any of the "deliberately released by voluntary action" theories on Nightmare Moon. While it's possible the "prophecy" was just Celestia telling ponies what it was she had planned, I don't think she'd have mythologized it quite that way. Moreover, the very specific day and time mentioned doesn't make sense if Celestia was counting on something like "the Mane Six" to become the Bearers of the Elements of Harmony. The prophecy would've been more about a quest to find the elements or something, with no particular timing, just "signs" that Nightmare Moon was "soon to return."

The very specific timing suggests to me that the spell's known weaknesses or duration would come about at that time. If Celestia made a choice, it was when she banished Nightmare Moon, not when Nightmare Moon was released. Once that decision was made, Nightmare Moon's release was scheduled as if on a time-release vault. Celestia's plan was to try to find bearers for the Elements of Harmony before then, and Twilight was her last hope at assembling it. That ran right up to the wire.

No, I think a more likely "desperate move" scenario might've been Celestia's followers realizing that Nightmare Moon was too much to handle, and, looking for some power to stop her now that Celestia was banished to the Sun, accidentally or purposely released Discord. Maybe he couldn't handle Nightmare Moon on his own and freed Celestia, or maybe he could and just decided that he wanted his playthings back and brought Celestia and Luna out to torment.


I think that:<br>In the timelines that the mane six weren't there we see that one villain rules in one timeline but that can't be possible unless all the villain have an equal chance to rule meaning equal power. Why do some need to be put in Tartarus and some not if they're all equal power. And I'm talking about power not strength. Cozy glow has no strength but alot of power. Tirek has strength. So basically all the villians have equal power

I think that:
In the timelines that the mane six weren't there we see that one villain rules in one timeline but that can't be possible unless all the villain have an equal chance to rule meaning equal power. Why do some need to be put in Tartarus and some not if they're all equal power. And I'm talking about power not strength. Cozy glow has no strength but alot of power. Tirek has strength. So basically all the villians have equal power


And how did Nightmare Moon defeat Discord without the Elements of Harmony?
...or Chrysalis' Throne
...or Grogar's Bell


Celestia cant control the stars but the elements of harmony can free nightmare moon


I assumed maybe Luna would have been reformed "by force", just by using the elements of harmony or something... But it still doesn't reform her "mentally", she's still upset that Celestia has the nice role, so if Celestia beats Luna, it just adds to the frustration. That's why Celestia wanted to give it to other ponies. Maybe that timeline's Luna didn't go back to NM form, because she had Discord to deal with, and yet it doesn't make it less likely for her to blow a fuse eventually.

Maybe Celestia is the one who triggered the freedom of Nightmare Moon, then imo she just tried during the latest 1000 years to find a solution so that it doesn't build frustration in Luna, and she gave herself an ultimatum: if she didn't come with a better solution in 1000 years, she'd freed her anyway. And for an eternal being like a princess, it's maybe not so bad to be on time out to cool the emotions, maybe at least that's what Celestia thought.

For the idea that a villain took over equestria, then a more powerful one just punched them too hard and so on, that is how I pictured the events. By the way, in our timeline Tirek got free because of that day Twilight was warned by her future self, right? Then in the one where Tirek won I suppose it could have been that Tirek got free and just had to tiptoe behind Discord and suck all his magic. The rest was a piece of cake.

Also! Have you noticed that Discord timeline has Luna in her "full potential mode", not the smaller version with non-flowing mane? I mean, yes, that alternate present is supposed to be as late as Starlight's vengeance, which means Discord has been freed since "season 2", so a couple years ago. I guess it does leave Luna time to get as strong.


I figure that the explanation could be as simple as "Discord did it". But what fun is that? I think I could make it a little more interesting. (Also, I think Nightmare Moon was freed in each timeline, since the prophecy preexists the Sonic Rainboom.)

Nightmare Moon was freed like in the original. But without the Elements of Harmony to battle her, Celestia wasn't freed and Nightmare Moon ruled. It starts out similarly to how the Nightmare Moon timeline would've. In fact, it's identical to the Nightmare Moon timeline...up until Discord's release. In the Nightmare Moon timeline, either Nightmare Moon won against Discord, or Discord was never freed.

In the Discord timeline, Nightmare Moon was smart enough to know that she couldn't take on Discord. At least not alone. My idea is similar to yours, just with a role reversal. Nightmare Moon released Celestia from the moon. Either that, or after Discord returned Nightmare Moon to Luna, the magic sealing Celestia in the moon was broken. Or maybe it was Discord himself who freed Celestia for another play thing. But let's go with Nightmare Moon freeing Celestia.

Nightmare and Celestia have to work together to defeat Discord... and that's the problem. Their inability to agree with each other is what allowed Discord to remove Luna's corruption. In doing so, it also took away any power she had that could give them the advantage.

Here's where another timeline split happens. In another timeline, Nightmare Moon and Celestia win. Afterwords, Celestia says how they should rule together as equals. This touches Nightmare Moon's Heart, returning her to Luna. Perhaps it could take some time. It's in this split that the Sombra timeline happens. I skip Chrysalis because I think that the two sisters are better prepared for the attack. Chrysalis's timeline would happen in another Nightmare Moon timeline where Discord just never returns. The only difference between the Nightmare Moon timeline and the Chrysalis timeline is that in one, they face off and Nightmare Moon wins. In the other, Nightmare Moon and Chrysalis come to an agreement, meaning that the Chrysalis timeline also exists during The Eternal Night. Or Chrysalis and Nightmare Moon just never came face to face.

The Flim Flam Brothers timeline is probably just identical to the Sombra timeline just with Flim and Flam running Sweet Apple Acres.

And I'm gonna say that the Tirek timeline exists in a Sombra timeline. In the Nightmare Moon timeline, and by extension, the Chrsyalis timeline, they were able to stop Tirek before he became a danger. This can also apply to any of the other non-Tirek timelines. The reason why I place him in a Sombra timeline is because the war could help keep everyone distracted in order to let Tirek acquire the magic he needs. Alternatively, he could exist in a Discord timeline where he teamed up with Discord before betraying him.

It occurs to me that there are so many possible outcomes that there are plenty of other timelines that were created that we never saw.


I mean there can always be another main six, others that can be chosen, celestia I’m sure could reform her but I don’t know and like the ideas, unless the discord battle was before luna became nightmare moon because the sisters turned him to stone prior to luna changing


Sawtooth:Let’s explore this scenario <br>Natures own: YOUR FANCY NOW

Sawtooth:Let’s explore this scenario
Natures own: YOUR FANCY NOW


Wait, I need someone to explain this. Princess Celestia and Luna have magical hair, in which it moves, unlike other ponies. And we know that your not born with it, as seen with reformed Luna in S1 E1. Basically, without their magic, their hair won't move. But we don't see the same thing with Cadance, but we do with Twilight. And one of the Old Pillars, who isn't an alicorn or royal related, has the same magical hair like the princesses. Can someone please explain? Thanks


Recently I was thinking about the everfree/chrylis/forest timeline like what happened to the ponies and how they found zecora. I think it went wrong in  The canterlot wedding if that's how you spell it


I don't think Nightmare Moon would have the power to defeat Discord. Celestia coudn't. What does Nightmare Moon have that would outdo the spirit of chaos?

Also, I assumed all the timelines involved Nightmare Moon escaping but being defeated in most timelines except her own.


i think luna was nightmare moon after discord because the potion twilight drinks shows luna and celestia finding the elements on the tree while and even kinda states this in the episode and when celestia got the elements they were there as if they stored them after the defeat of discord. also one more thing when zecora gives twilight the potion im pretty sure she says to look in further into the past of course if she was defeated before discord she would be stuck in the moon but thats all


If Nightmare Moon was a natural event, Celestia would have either postpone it or let it happen.

If she let it happened, the disharmony of her and NmM fighting would have led Duscord out and seeing them fight. He sees the way Luna is acting and changes her back so they can all "have fun together."

If it was postponed, Celestia might have to face Discord on her own before being too weak or even worst, Discirdrd. Making her apathetic, she brings back NmM so she can handle him, catching Discord of guard, and the apathy make it so NmM could handle her with ease.


Don’t worry, I’ll watch the G5 stuff once when the dvd releases.😉


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Maybe the stars helped her escape and seeing her home like that made her reform herself


Hey Sawtooth, could you make a theory about the Fluttershy's sharp tooth at the end of the Bats episode and the figure at the end of the Castle Mane-ia episode (if you haven't allredy)?


i can’t remember if luna became nightmare moon before or after discord took over, but if he did take over before her transformation that timeline might make some sense? who knows


Wait, didn’t the sisters end Discord’s rule and THEN start their own?


I just realized that discord broke free from his prison because the main six wheeled the elements in the present day. But if there were no main six to wheel the elements, then Celestia would still wheel the elements dust discord hypothetically should still be trapped.


The reason why Celestia could not use the Elements againist Nightmare Moon is explained via "Return of Harmony".

She and Luna are no longer connected to the Elements.


What if in the discord timeline Luna never turned into Nightmare Moon. The two sisters originally turned him to stone when he 1st tried to take over, what if instead of them turning him to stone the 1st time. What if he found a way to defeat them, making the alternate timeline we see with Discord? If this was the case Luna never would of turned into Nightmare Moon because they never became the rulers.


The discord timeline could be explained by discord never being imprisoned. Because Celestia and Luna fought him together if my memory serves me right and maybe they just lost


I love this theory. And Also Discord is my favorite character so if this is true it makes him way more awesome!!!!


in the alternate timeline when the alternate mane 6 failed, they failed because derpy did not aim the rainbow beam


what if celestia didn't know she could take on nightmare moon by herself and realized it in the moment of truth
or maybe discord defeated nightmare moon or even brought her just for fun
what do u think about that?


Discord and Nightmare Moon prove evenly matched and threaten to destroy Equestria between them. In desperation, Celestia unleashes her full power upon them to stop them. She loses control and burns the world in her attempt to save it. She falls into a despair, anguish, and rage, thus creating the Scorched Timeline. Or, more properly, the Daybreaker Timeline.


Watch "Its about time" (s2e20)
Pay attention to the clocks and the number of days in Equestrias month, and how Twilight only plans out 2 months at a time (one for luna, one for celestia)
Twilight would know she's about to read the "brief history of canterlot" and "the art of invisibility" and then have 30 minutes of free time. Rather than wait for herself to have both of those since she knew she didn't hear everything, she instead returns to the same moment-- creating a stable time loop.
I do not believe she used a 'time travel spell", she used a dimension hopping spell. She just returned to a similar world as her own. (hence why she now, suddenly has a brother 5 episodes later, and there's a 3rd princess we never heard of).
S2 E20 is a heard breakoff point for all such things.
So, at the end of S5, Starlight Glimmer proceeds to just do the same thing. In these worlds we see all the "bad outcomes" but we don't know fully about this. It's totally possible Rainbow Dash could have pulled off the rainboom later, and we just got a similar, or different, set of any mane six outcomes. Twilight just only sees the bad ones because they're the only "timelines" (Dimensions) similar to hers she can jump back to.

Because of S5's ending, we have a clean break before the mane six ever meet-- making literally any equestrian story set when the mane six are children basically completely possible (In fact some of the timelines are downright ripped from fanfictions, or close to them.) Meanwhile, S2E20 provides us another clean break, although this one almost certainly leads to Equestria's that are going smoothy because twilight's just ensured the same events happen, and that similar dimensions are returned to. It might not always go well but it's going to go a lot better than an unstable loop Starlight was making in S5.

Because of this anything that doesn't completely redefine Equestria more than however old the mane six are (even if they are all 18 when they meet which i doubt) , that's still over a decade for anything to happen and you to tell any kind of story, it's totally supported by what is present just within the first 5 seasons of the show, and indeed, as long as you keep S2 E19 and before in mind, any outcome is possible from there too.

Equestria is a dangerous place. It has a spell that allows it to splinter itself into an impossible number of timelines that even with the exactly same values produce incredibly different worlds. We can't even be sure if going back and doing nothing doesn't radically alter the like dimension they can return to, because you've already breathed in air, or maybe somepony saw you randomly but didn't think much of it.

Sadly, if Twilight HAD decided to worry about the future and not live in the present, she might have been able to limit the damage done, at the very worst everything would remain the same. She's literally cursed (blessed?) the world with infinite equestrias, and now starlight does the same later. Where does this end? how far back are other unicorns going to go? creating new dimensions, new points in time? Sweetie Belle creates rarity coffee without a single coffee plant in all of equestria at that time (burnt juice = roast coffee). She did that with kitchen utensils and some time. How far back is she going to go? What about Luster Dawn? how far back will she go?
Well, now we have g5, so perhaps, to the very beginning. Maybe ponies are true masters of reality for themselves, and they can change quite a lot.

Watch "Its about time" (s2e20)
Pay attention to the clocks and the number of days in Equestrias month, and how Twilight only plans out 2 months at a time (one for luna, one for celestia)
Twilight would know she's about to read the "brief history of canterlot" and "the art of invisibility" and then have 30 minutes of free time. Rather than wait for herself to have both of those since she knew she didn't hear everything, she instead returns to the same moment-- creating a stable time loop.
I do not believe she used a 'time travel spell", she used a dimension hopping spell. She just returned to a similar world as her own. (hence why she now, suddenly has a brother 5 episodes later, and there's a 3rd princess we never heard of).
S2 E20 is a heard breakoff point for all such things.
So, at the end of S5, Starlight Glimmer proceeds to just do the same thing. In these worlds we see all the "bad outcomes" but we don't know fully about this. It's totally possible Rainbow Dash could have pulled off the rainboom later, and we just got a similar, or different, set of any mane six outcomes. Twilight just only sees the bad ones because they're the only "timelines" (Dimensions) similar to hers she can jump back to.

Because of S5's ending, we have a clean break before the mane six ever meet-- making literally any equestrian story set when the mane six are children basically completely possible (In fact some of the timelines are downright ripped from fanfictions, or close to them.) Meanwhile, S2E20 provides us another clean break, although this one almost certainly leads to Equestria's that are going smoothy because twilight's just ensured the same events happen, and that similar dimensions are returned to. It might not always go well but it's going to go a lot better than an unstable loop Starlight was making in S5.

Because of this anything that doesn't *completely* redefine Equestria more than however old the mane six are (even if they are all 18 when they meet which i doubt) , that's still over a decade for anything to happen and you to tell any kind of story, it's totally supported by what is present just within the first 5 seasons of the show, and indeed, as long as you keep S2 E19 and before in mind, any outcome is possible from there too.

Equestria is a dangerous place. It has a spell that allows it to splinter itself into an impossible number of timelines that even with the exactly same values produce incredibly different worlds. We can't even be sure if going back and doing nothing doesn't radically alter the like dimension they can return to, because you've already breathed in air, or maybe somepony saw you randomly but didn't think much of it.

Sadly, if Twilight HAD decided to worry about the future and not live in the present, she might have been able to limit the damage done, at the very worst everything would remain the same. She's literally cursed (blessed?) the world with infinite equestrias, and now starlight does the same later. Where does this end? how far back are other unicorns going to go? creating new dimensions, new points in time? Sweetie Belle creates rarity coffee without a single coffee plant in all of equestria at that time (burnt juice = roast coffee). She did that with kitchen utensils and some time. How far back is she going to go? What about Luster Dawn? how far back will she go?
Well, now we have g5, so perhaps, to the very beginning. Maybe ponies are true masters of reality for themselves, and they can change quite a lot.

yes, I am sorry this is literally an essay. if anyone ever reads this, .... uh let me know what you think.


It's definitely a longshot when Derpy is involved.


I thought that the princesses going up against Discord happened before Luna became Nightmare Moon. Therefore still being herself in the Discord timeline because it’s before she turned.


Our time line celestia new she had a good group of ponies ponies who were ready to protect one another under any circumstances so she purposefully let her out and then went somewhere else when nightmare moon was released like how luna just disappears for no reason I say she went somewhere else because the way she "returned" is just like how she and twilight came from that other place where twilight became an alicorn


2 things
we don't know for sure if Nightmare moon was really the one who Banished her sister,,,it is the most likely explanation bur not the only one
same with the discord timeline
alot of things are off in each one so maybe Tirek broke free and did what he dose defeating the others but this time Discord isn't made stupid for plot convenience?
thus he tosses Tirek back into Tartarus before he can suck Discord's magic out.
this also explains the timeline where Tirek wins either Disord never got free or when he did he got the magic sucked out.


In our timeline Discord was still alive within the prison of stone could he be the one who released Luna considering if he was still in stone he was able to use magic


since you are talking about alternate timelines again I think that Cozy Glow’s motivation was hearing about Sunset Shimmer taking over and got inspired but she only heard about it in the school of Friendship and that is why there was no Cozy timeline


There’s an alternative timeline where she was never nightmare moon


I'm just wondering, luna wasn't reformed without the mane six because when discord took over they were younger than when luna was even transformed into nightmare moon therefore nothing went wrong and luna was never reformed. The real question is, how did luna take over equestria?


i mean hes the spirit of chaos its kinda obvios


Y'know, I just noticed. It's Discordant Harmony we see that when Discord doesn't use chaos magic, he starts to fade away. But what about the times when he's not able to use magic at all, like in the changeling hive or when his magic is sealed in the bell or eaten by Tirek? He seems fine, just powerless. Does this fading rely on the fact that he HAS the magic and just isn't using it?

@Truitt Wilbur I'd say around the same amount of time if not longer than in Discordant Harmony.

@Cilan Steele He was like that for barely any time at all

@Truitt Wilbur Well he was also not chaotic during the season 4 finale after  getting his magic drained. Once his powers were taken he was just sulking the entire time

It's nok about him not using the chaos magic as he uses its about him not being chaotic. Discord is seen using his magic it's just him being normal is what's causing him to fade away.


Discord was released because chaos was around his rock form so let's say that discord was released and wanted to take revenge the fun way he probably would want to get back at the sisters by making the rest of their lives miserable so he released nightmaremoon and watched her cause chaos and torment her sister but discord got bored so he turned Luna back and decided to see how long they can run for. For nightmaremoon's take over she possibly was released by the stars and decided to be sneaky and threatened someone to get rid of discord's rock form so there where no accidents in her takeover after he was disposed of she got to work on her takeover and was successful in doing so.


notice how her hair changed now she has wavy hair she is powerful like celestia and celestia banished her for a year and she freed her self and came back as reformed


What if there could be an alternate timeline in which cozy glows plan of getting rid of all the magic worked


I will never get tired of these theories


I'm wondering when the mane six had the camping trip what if chrysalis had actually managed to take the elements somehow and the mane six had been using fakes the rest of the entire time.


But there is also the factor that the only reason discord was freed was becuz the princesses weren't tied to the elements but if the main six was not brought together they couldn't have had the elements, so the question is did he really get turned to stone on the time line or how did he get free


Theory: all the timelines happen in the same timeline, just at different times...in the line.


Hey Sawtooth i have a question : does the human world have different timelines too ?? If there is then i have a theory myself about that Wasteland Timeline :
-Since Human Luna didnt get banish to the Moon and im pretty sure the Mane Six did ends up reformed Luna so everything from SS1 to time before the Friendships Game is pretty much still the same . After the Friendships Game ( the point when Midnight Sparkle introduced herself ) , another timeline may have formed : in that timeline Midnight Sparkle successfully teared the fabric of the two worlds and maybe those two had fused with eachother , the mane sixs ( both in Human World and Esquestria ) defeated Midnight Sparkle but they couldn't unfused the two world .
After some time lived like that a war had formed between the two world : The humans think that Esquestrian are just zoo animals and tried to capture them , Esquestrian think that Humans are just weak and they have to depends on technologies to live unlike the them . The Mane Sixs couldn't handle this war , even if they saved the two worlds from the death mutiple times , they still haven't faced a World Threating War like this .
-Before their eyes a massive meteorite cashed by the spell of all horn users who have been trained for this very moment crashed in to the Human City and giant explosions keep apear using Humans super technologies to damage the the Esquestrian , the war goes on until it been nothing left .
-Both Esquestrians and Humans have damaged the Earth soo hard that there is not left at all , just a giant piece of dirt that once owned a beautiful life floating in space ...
-Some of the important places like the Map still remand , forced to look at once a beautiful home that been destroyed ... forever ...


I'm pretty sure the banishment of Luna was before discord, otherwise we would see short lightblue hair with no flowing sparkled mane. At least I thought so cause if it was after wouldn't we see it in an episode? And we already saw the main 6 defeat discord already. Idk, just throwing out guesses.


There’s a chance Luna just never become nightmare moon


Hey Sawtooth waves considering you saw my post I’ll put my theory’s on you’re vids so you remember and you can fin them easier
2.if celestia, luna, cadence,twilight, and flurry heart are all considered princesses then whos the king and queen of equestira and can there be a king/prince so far in equestria history there has been no sign of a stallion ruler shure theres shining armor but other than him theres no good king/prince.

3. Hey Sawtooth waves
I have a theory for you
Could it be possible that princible sinch is cadences mother
Heres what i mean
Think about it sinch is pricible and cadence is dean  pricible is a higher rank than dean would that mean in the pony world that if theres princess cadence and sinch is in higher authority than candence in the human world then is it possible Sinch is cadences mother I mean human celestial and Luna ran canterlot high as sisters why not sinch and cadence as mother and daughter and does that mean that pony sinch is a queen
 Thx for answering the other 2 two down two to go and yes I’m taking this one as an sewer to where magic disappeared too good luck with the next one
I may make more theories for you to answer in the future so keep an eye out
Bro hoof 🤜🤛


Remember Luna went evil cuz jealousy & maybe she went "good" cuz her sister was out of the picture & everyone loved her precious night again


The time jumpy thing is correct, but in the canon of the show, Luna becomes Nightmare after she and Celestia take down Discord. They find the elements of Harmony to beat Discord the first time  and then Celestia uses them against Nightmare, presumably years later.


Theory: i feel like there's also a seventh timeline in the MLP Fim! But not for the villains, in my theory, Sunset would be in the place of Twilight, while Twilight would be in Sunset's place, so we could've had a human Sunset in that timeline but no Sci Twi so it would be Sci-Set!

Here are more characters' opposite versions:
Pinkie Pie - Lemon Zest
Applejack - Sugarcoat
Rainbow Dash - Indigo Zap
Fluttershy - Soursweet
Sunny Flare - Rarity
Starlight Glimmer - Moondancer
Trixie Lulamoon - Starlight Glimmer
Moondancer - Trixie Lulamoon
Princess Cadence - Queen Chrysalis/Princess Crystalize, Chrysalis in this timeline will be the ruler of Crystal empire
Shining Armor - Sunburst
Princess Celestia - Princess Luna/Selena in an alternate universe, where Luna was the eldest
Princess Luna - Princess Celestia/Tia in an alternate universe where she is the youngest
Discord - Lord Tirek
Lord Tirek - Lord Discord, tirek would be the on who's a draconiquis
Nightmare Moon - Daybreaker, this time she's banished in the sun for many years
King Sombra - Fancy Pants, King Flants in my headcanon name
Queen Chrysalis - Princess Cadence/Queen Amore, this time she tried to steal love from Sunburst before Sunset and her friends could stop her.
Diamond Tiara: Apple Bloom/Brightening Apple, in this universe, she's the spoiled daughter of Pear Butter and Bright Mac of the Pear and Apple company.
Silver Spoon - Sweetie Belle, the friend of Brightening Apple, also the nerdy bully friend.
Cozy Glow - Scootaloo, the chicken filly we all know was no longer what we know, in this timeline she can fly, and trying to steal the magic from Equestria only to be defeated by Sunset and her friends, along with Queen Amore and Lord Discord.

Edit: Granny Smith's Alternate Universe counterpart would be Principal Cinch, so it would be Principal Smith and Granny Cinch, also having to make sense Diamond tiara and SugarCoat were siblings along with Silver Spoon and Sunny Flare, and Cozy Glow idolizing Indigo Zap.


I think that if we see it like this with a timeline where  celestia was imprisoned maybe she and celestia fought since in the lullaby by a princess or whatever au they fought then Luna might win and the stars aid her escape maybe she’s been trying for 1000 years to move the stars I mean if u practice then u succeed in some scenarios that is possible


5:25 Now take into account all those variables of each timeline you listed...

... each of those variables IS ANOTHER TIMELINE CREATED!


huh. so discord timeline results in a nightmare timeline which then results in a chrysalis timeline. one question. where does the tirek timeline come in???


I know you have fun with the MLP multiverse, but I find this guy to have the most in-depth analysis of "The Cutie Re-Mark": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfLM4gLikg0


I think that Luna could’ve been reformed, chrysalis could have been defeated and discord could’ve been reformed even if the elements weren’t found by the mane 6.


Maybe in the main timeline when Celestia trapped Luna in the moon she also put a curse on Luna to stay there for 1000 years until the summer sun set celebration


This reminds me, i wonder if someday you'll do a video on how King Sombra took over Equestria? I'm kinda interested about that...

Actually, i'm kinda interested to see how did the other villains managed to conquer equestria though...


You forgot the part where Discord WAS grogar so naturally he has more power over Luna and Maybe even Celestia(only if he used logic which he won't because,well he is still  discord)


when discord was banished, didn't luna and celestia do it? like, when they turned him to stone? that happened before we saw main 6 right. so we can just say that discord won that timeline and luna never got the chance to turn into nightmare moon.


I think Luna came back because of the stars aligning Celestia was abel to refore Luna herself it may have taken awhile but she did it then discord came back but they could not defeat him this is just what I think Sawtooths theory is pretty good though


I'm curious if there's a timeline wherein Nightmare Moon didn't exist at all, just Luna being a princess.


I just assumed that she was never sent to the moon, as like celestia and Luna are forever fighting discord bc he finds it entertaining


What if Luna never turned into nightmare Moon during that time when discord was ruling


0:49 celestia Said in the show that when luna Was banished she Was 100% evil, now she Was trying tô escape nightmare moon


Theory idea: why didn’t we see a timeline where the storm king was successful?


I think you may be right about sunny not having permanent wings and horn cuz i just saw something about a Gen6 series and she doesnt have either but her hairs still colorful


In the Nightmare moon Timeline maybe Luna wasn’t sended to the moon, instead Celestia failed to send Luna to the moon


Of course, the real winner of both timelines might be the hidden puppet-master ultimate villain that hasn't been revealed (yet) who might exist and was secretly manipulating everyone, (especially during all the timelines, with Starlight being unknowingly used during all this until Twilight & Spike show up that is in those timelines and undoes everything Starlight had done & this unknown enemy (I have a personal pet theory on the unknown villain, & maybe they were one who caused magic to sort of disappear from Equestria, which ended the G4 era, possibly similar to how they ended the previous Gens such as by reviving Grogar which ended G3, yet this hidden villain is still not strong enough to actually physically manifest yet, escaping from their prison dimension but maybe we have seen a timeline where that villain did escape but will be when enough malevolence enters the Pony world...),


i think discord simply broke free because of the the sisters. they were fighting at that time and discord propably sensed the tension and hatered and couldn't help but make the situation worse. after all his name IS discord. sure there is no magic involved on my theory but do you really think all powerful and mighty discord would let a statue ruin his determination to turn the world upside down


What if Luna just never became Nightmare moon in that timeline, as there was too much chaos


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What if there was a timeline where the main six got different cutiemarks, or no cutiemarks, or the same cutiemarks at a different time and still came together


I'm pretty sure many years ago I saw a video of a bunch of background ponies at a makeshift main six, but I have no idea what its called or if it was just a fever dream


Discord was banished before nightmare moon, so maybe he missed her and brought her back


Celestia rolls the dice.  That is pretty classic.


I like the idea- but I don’t think other ponies have the true friendship power to do anything :3


Man, I didn't even think about that timeline. Very good theory Sawtooth.


What Luna never turned into Nightmare moon? There won't be any need for the elements the Mane six or reforming! I don't know how accurate this is,but it's the best I can imagine. 💜


People saying that the fandom was gonna die after g4 are so wrong, and I'm so glad


It's Discord, he can do whatever he wants. He turned Nightmare Moon back into Luna for the chaos and only the chaos.


Oh my Celestia! What! A! Theory! It makes so much sense now!! I loved the supa hot fia meme, lol


You should do a theory on how the Sirens survived in the human world for a thousand years, before magic was introduced there

Just like with non-Alicorns, humans don’t live forever. Even if you were a Alicorn from another world, it wouldn’t matter. Without magic, nothing keeps you alive for longer than the normal human lifespan. Considering this, and the fact that magic was only introduced to the human world when Sunset used Twilight’s crown on herself, they would have no connection to their powers. Before the events of Equestria girls, the human world didn’t even know magic was a thing, or that other universes existed.

Starswirl banished the Sirens to the human world before Stigeon became the Pony of Shadows and before they banished him and themselves to Limbo, and that was way over a thousand years before Twilight became an Alicorn and had her crown stolen by Sunset. How did they survive all that time. The lack of all forms of magic in the human world would have rendered their Siren powers useless, so how did they manage to stay alive.

You could say that time works differently in the human world than in Equestria, and Equestria’s time moves faster than the human world’s time, but I don’t think that is the case either. The first appearance of the human world, mirror portal, and Sunset was right after Twilight became an Alicorn, between the end of season 3 and the beginning of season 4, and the first appearance of the Sirens was between the end of season 4 and the beginning of season 5. If the timeline of the human world was much slower than the timeline of Equestria, then I don’t think the Sirens would have gathered enough magical energy by that time to be revealed, it would have to have happened much later in Equestria’s timeline, like possibly a season or 2 after that

With all this information, how did they survive for that long in a world with no magic


Starlight prevent rainbow to do the sonic rainboom multiple times, every time.. she did different things. It kinda makes sense because

"If starligt keeps doing the same thing in the past, why can the present be so diffrent?" Twilight to zecora
"Ah.. time is a river, when even the tiniest changes scene/seem(?) can lead to cascade of affects downstream" zecora replied

So yea, the different timelines is bcs starlight do different things in the past to prevent the rainboom

Starlight prevent rainbow to do the sonic rainboom multiple times, every time.. she did different things. It kinda makes sense because

_"If starligt keeps doing the same thing in the past, why can the present be so diffrent?" Twilight to zecora_
_"Ah.. time is a river, when even the tiniest changes scene/seem(?) can lead to cascade of affects downstream" zecora replied_

So yea, the different timelines is bcs starlight do different things in the past to prevent the rainboom


Pretty off topic but bro couldn’t twilight just tell starlight why her friends are so important instead of going through all of that? It’s a lesson, ANSWER the question


I figured it was because Fluttershy and Rainbow became much closer friends in this timeline and had counciled Celestia into finding a way to talk Luna down and make her free herself from Nightmare Moon


Some other content: why wasn't Discord freed in other timeliness, since they were all full of disharmony. Or if he was, how did villains managed to defeat him? I understand how a centaur that can absorb ANY kind of magic, but Flim and Flam for example. Doubt.

Edit and yes, I highly doubt Nightmare Moon, Sombra and even changelings, who we didn't saw using magic-blocking outside of hive and I also doubt that he somehow didn't survive that final timeline, whatever that catastrophe is.


if derpy is there, everything will be fine


There's also the possibility that Discord wasn't able to rip the corruption magic out of Nightmare Moon, but did it for the challenge, all so it would be more fun to break her. Look at how he broke the Mane 6 in Season 2. He used magic as an aid (except Fluttershy), but mostly orchestrated the circumstances so they would let themselves succumb to his magic. Just putting the idea out there. The multiverse concept feels like a taste of unlimited possibilities.


Sawtooth is asking questions everyone just glossed over… he’s the real mvp


What if terek stole luna's corruption magic?


Actually this timeline had no elements of harmony because the mane six were never supposed to meet so this was BEFORE nightmare moon happened.


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Ok but the nightmare moon one wouldn't have been too bad... I mean Nightmare wasn't doing it to harm the ponies...  in her timeline life was as normal but without the sun and with a different princess


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My idea is a bit more cruel as discord likes seeing people in the chaos but also in despair, but what if he used magic to make the illusion of Luna to run next to Celestia? That would drive her mad, seeing her sister, but unable to help her in both that situation and in the situation long ago...


This is a fun exercise for the brain but the real answer is the writers didn't think about how none of the timelines make any sense at all and just wanted one where each villain won.


Hey sawtooth you know what Just kind of goes with your video you know Luna got banished to the moon she was technically the 1st mayor on the moon


I think for most timelines, Celestia doesn't stop trying to find a faithful student who can take original Twilight's place, but fails each time. Each of the Mane Six end up living in different places under different circumstances depending on how Starlight foils the Sonic Rainboom. And the villains rise or fall based on who takes their place, or what they can do to stop them. Reforming Luna or Nightmare Moon escaping is only a requirement in one timeline each.


>the forces of good have no reason to unleash nightmare moon into a world that isn't prepared to deal with her so the status quo continues
>until discord breaks free from his stone prison
But I thought Discord was released BECAUSE Mane Six connected to Elements, thus Celestia disconnected from Elements? Here's the quote from s02 opener:
>I thought the spell we cast would keep him contained forever, but since Luna and I are no longer connected to the Elements, the spell has been broken.
>...
>You six showed the full potential of the Elements by harnessing the magic of your friendship to beat a mighty foe. Although Luna and I once wielded the Elements, it is you who now control their power, and it is you who must defeat Discord!


is it a strech to assume that it could be the first time Celestia and Luna met discord and tried to seal him into stone?


You seem to be talking about corruption magic that transformed luna into nightmare moon. But what is that corruption magic? And where did it come from? Was it her anger that transformed her? In that case the magic would be existing inside her. But wouldn't that mean that there's corruption magic inside celestia too? They're sisters and alicorns after all... but wouldn't all alicorns have that power too then? This gets me thinking: If there's corruption magic inside luna, celestia and maybe the other alicorns too, would they be able to use it? Like corrupt others? Ofc this doesn't mean they'd do it but the thought that the alicorns might be able to transform ponies into "monsters" like nightmare moon is just so terrifying and interesting at the same time.
The second possibility is obviously the fact that there is not a single particle of corruption magic inside the alicorns. But if that's the case... Then where did the corruption magic come from? Was it originally just ordinary magic inside luna which transformed into corruption magic because of her feelings? Or the more darker option: Was it someone/something else who gave/used the corruption magic on luna (after noticing her feelings and stuff)? (In the series we see the transorfmation but that doesn't mean that she would have been corrupted at that moment: in fact i believe that she just released the "corruption" inside herself at that moment)

Also if there's actually a simple answer to this (for example a quote where a pony x says stuff like "and then her feelings transformed her into nightmare moon") please forgive me, i'm too tired and haven't watched the episodes in a while now :"D


What if Luna never turned evil in the Discord timeline.


Now i wanna see the other villains analized


or maybe in the timeline where she is running around with celestia she never got corrupted


You will never reform from all the pieces you'll be shredded into.


Luna can’t stand looking at the derpy eyes without a straight face! Derpy is just that famous!


Wonder if in an alternate timeline changelings teach friendship.


maybe they're all in the same timeline just different points in time.


But the elements of harmony are more powerful than discord so can he erase the corruption magic that luna wielded and one more it was prophesied that nightmare moon would release at the longest of the <br>thousandth yr before the rainboom took place as starlight would have the capability to change the future not the past.

But the elements of harmony are more powerful than discord so can he erase the corruption magic that luna wielded and one more it was prophesied that nightmare moon would release at the longest of the
thousandth yr before the rainboom took place as starlight would have the capability to change the future not the past.


What if celesta tried to defer dicord by using a spell to unleash nightmare moon and teleported to a nother area to deal with nightmare.celesta had no choice but to used her most powerful spell ever that destroyed night mare…Then just when she thought Luna was gone she was there!Then they went to discord but he weakened celesta and Luna and u guessed it he won…


3:49 and 6:59
“ and JUST LIKE he did in our timeline he took the elements”
3:49

“AND BEFORE he took the elements” 6:59

Me: but there is no elements of harmony?!?


Do you think that the disruption of the rainboom event could have triggered Discord's release to happen earlier?


just saying celestia could have also used the elemens to do the same like she used the elemens to banish nightmare moon in the first place or countless times we just havent seen


Theory : Nightmare moon was freed but not from a known source like defeated discord sent her dear sis is yet too the moon know for Chrisalis ( sorry if I spelled it wrong ) they took out one of the guards as She shapeshifted into him now being in the castle is part 1 complete part 2 she took over after  fight by the time she’s freed She’s been freed from the moon planning to set things back to normal now twilight was there in those timelines for quite a while so good things might happen


There could be a timeline where Luna wasn’t even nightmare moon


heres my theory about this: the people who drew the scene probably were dumb and forgot about it and they wanted too add luna bc nightmare moon forced too be a clown? that ain't happening


Discord turned into stone before Luna turned into nightmare moon<br>Celestial banished nightmare moon with the element of harmony and Luna (before she became bad) celestial found the elements to make discord into stone

Discord turned into stone before Luna turned into nightmare moon
Celestial banished nightmare moon with the element of harmony and Luna (before she became bad) celestial found the elements to make discord into stone


Maybe she wasn’t trapped in the first place in this timeline 🤔


What if the Sombra timeline is that Celestia won this battle against Discord and Nightmare Moon? Sombra then returns later and starts the war. All the timelines might connect with this one battle.


Maybe discord stole the elements of harmony the first time and that's why celestia wouldn't have banished luna to the moon


well IDW did a special comic where it was blueblood instead of twilight that celestia chose but nightmare moon was reformed without the elements of harmony


Here's a topic I want tackled how did discord get out of stone. It seem to only happen once the CMC were arguing in front of him. What if they didn't what would've happened


Maybe celestial managed to get through to nightmare moon reforming her with her words and offering her to start dream walking.


I’m pretty sure the discord thing happened way before Luna became nightmare moon


I am a awful theory person but I love watching other peoples theories


You know I haven't watched all the video yet but what if celistia was testing the mane six to be the next rulers of equestria because she used the elements of harmony before by her self and could do it again so idk tells me what you think


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What the girls life would’ve been in other timelines
Let’s get this straight, Twilights are the least and most involved in this stories. All of her alter aren’t show. But I support the theory that Twilight would still be in the school just no under Celestia wing, you can check that theory now let’s go on to the rest

Sombra timeline:
Rainbow Dash: She was cheated in the last moment. She likely joined the army and become teammate with Pinkie and Maud
Fluttershy: I think she would still got an animal cutie mark becuz she still fall and still meet the animals. Her cutie mark wouldn’t be the same but it is the most similar in the mane 6
Pinkie Pie: She wouldn’t have the fun cutie mark but she would get a rock cutie mark since we see that her skill is equal Maud in this timeline
Apple Jack: I think she would still get home but in a different way. She is the worst written character
Rarity: She would still get a cutie mark for sewing but not for fashion, I think her cutie mark would be a sew or a cloth and she would help the army by making war clothes.

Chrysalis timeline:
This timeline is literally lagged becuz the mane 5 got the exact same looks and cutie mark like in our timeline. The crew is too lazy to make new design and cutie mark. So my thoughts wouldn’t be based on the scenes like in Sombra timeline
There is a 0,001% chance fluttershy could have the same cutie mark in Sombra timeline because she still fall down but in this timeline, she literally befriend the bullies. And how is Pinkie’s hair fluffy, this timeline is really bugged. And how TF does Apple Jack, Rarity and Rainbow Dash look alike with their alter ego. So to end this shenanigans, let’s just conclude that Fluttershy and Pinkie can’t have the same cutie mark and Rainbow Dash, Rarity and Apple Jack probably died.

Nightmare Moon timeline:
Rainbow Dash: She literally saw a battle between an alicorn and a unicorn, that must have had an impact on her since she is okay to talk to the bullies and could have befriend them. She must have an interest for fighting and get a fighting cutie mark. Later, she and likely the bullies join the shadow bolt. Maybe this is a key different to separate the Nightmare Moon and Discord timeline.
Rarity: I also think she join Nightmare Moon’s army. And likely for her greed and survivability.
Most of this world has been covered in Everfree, and likely, very likely all of them died and The Nightmare Moon’s army is the only survivor left. So yeah, this timeline is literally dark.

Tirek timeline
Every timeline Twilight come after is worse than the others. Sombra only start a war and they have a chance of winning when Celestia is still there.
There still some survivors in the everfree forest in Chrysalis timeline. There’s literally 10 ponies left in Nightmare Moon Timeline. And there’s no one in Tirek timeline. Nothing more.

Discord Timeline
I have a theory on why Luna is there in Discord timeline, you have to remember that this is Discord timeline, the spirit of CHAOS timeline. Like he could just turn Nightmare Moon into Luna, like it take 3,5 villains to fool him. Nightmare Moon wouldn’t have a chance, and even if she can beat him, this world has been turned into literal CHAOS, She could just poof back into Luna when she escaped.
And Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy would’ve been much closer becuz Fluttershy saved Rainbow from dying, orrrrr Rainbow just died, who knows, this world is CHAOS, so maybe both of those things happened.

Flim Flam Timeline
This world is stupid and the least intimidating, they could have go to this timeline first. And the way this timeline happened is literally similar to Chrysalis timeline.

The last timeline
I think this used to be a Discord timeline. Then he bring all possible villains back to Equestria. And they just ruined this world like nothing happened.


I think Discord would offer to free Luna for Celestia and reform her. In exchange for Equestria that is.


kk, so imagine: Luna? Banished. Mane 6? nope. Makeshift mane 6? Also no. In this timeline Celestia becomes stronger with using the elements over the thousand years, (in ours, let's pretend she was doing so, but gave them to the mane 6 when they appeared) so she decides to Release Nightmare Moon and reform Luna herself, seeing as she misses her sister. What could an outcome be? One of the known, or it just doesn't happen? I was thinking nothing, that it's a timeline we just don't have or the waste land one. but what do yall think?


nightmare moon freed, because she realized that her sister is sorry for shadowing her sister, but when freed, her decision overpowered the dark magic and reformed!


I still believe Grogar is the one who bail Nightmare Moon


"That's right fillies, colts, and enby folks."

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"That's right fillies, colts, and enby folks."

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One thing I just realized is that we never get a real explanation of why Celestia's hair goes from pastel pink to other pastel colors still including the pink. Though there are theories of it being from the elements. It seems odd. Especially when looking at Daybreaker's  hair color.

I don't know if maybe I missed an explanation from the show or not but I am not sure


Wait So Speer can also make reform without gang of four?! (i must do it)


Maybe Luna never turned into Night Mare Moon in that timeline.


Think about this also for Lina’s mark in the books her mane and tail turn star like soon after she comes over corruption but her mark has the black so what happened there what made Lunas  hair like that? Why was that time line different and how did it happen? Also love the videos


Oml just that intro about made me cry tears of joy, coming from an enby folk


6:22 I like to think you constantly dunk on chrysalis because she’s a horrible changeling queen


3 theories, either in that timeline she never became nightmare moon or....
DISCORD! Discord could just bring her back, why? Probably because he probably wanted more people to rule over, that’s just discord.
But..maybe discord was there when nightmare moon was and he actually turned nightmare moon into stone, fast forward 1000 years later discord let her free to reform her. What do you think sawtooth?


FILLIES, COLTS, AND ENBYFOLKS?! I’m gonna cry thank you


i love ur videos ur so smart on thinking on these


I have a theory of one of the timethe reason why discord kept luna around in his timeliness so he can make her queen and defeat princess Celestia together


I think every million years maremoon will be released because Princess Celestial power was not stong in the past


A derpy princess time line count me in :D


Honestly… I think Starswirl is involved in the freeing he has STAR in his name…


The luna moon from a distance looks like someone looking through a telescope or someone shooting


A word for thought what if and the Discord timeline Luna never became Nightmare Moon


maybe this happen before luna becomes nightmare moon and in season 2 celestia said that she turn discord into stone with luna<br>you see  ,the elements shape like the mane six quietly mark so it must be contral by the mane six not another  mane six

maybe this happen before luna becomes nightmare moon and in season 2 celestia said that she turn discord into stone with luna
you see  ,the elements shape like the mane six quietly mark so it must be contral by the mane six not another  mane six


Oh great, now I want to go rewatch “Bride of discord” 😒😏


Theories I have about the G5
Feel free to discuss but now I keep it short

- What happened to Discord?? Isnt that man immortal

- Cutie marks!! What do they mean? Its not like they talk about it or even mention it
Also their now only on one side
Are they like just birthmarks now just like how we have this extra bone that USED to be important? And if they still magically appear wouldnt that - ugh nvm im ranting again

- Where did the cities go? Like have they never looked at ruins?

- Why did the main character become an Alicorn? Like I know she brought em together but still (if we go off Sawtooth’s theory) then it’s basically all Twilights magic stored in that but do ponies even know of Alicorns??

- Reacting to that, do the ponies of G5 even know what Alicorns are?

- What happened to the crystal empire

- How old did Spike get?

- The equastria girls are they like ancient now?

- Did flurry heart like not become like an looong lived pony

- How long was Gen 4 ago in the G5 timeline because no one even mentions Twilight like no one

- How and why did ponies even manage to lose their magic?

- I’m very curious how they also invented technology, like is it because they lost magic? Probably

- Again WHAT HAPPENED TO DISCORD I’ve been breaking my mind over this
Some answers are waaay to dark and some make 0 sense and some are like: thats the most boring answer ever, even if they make sense they’re boring maybe I’ll comment my theory onnit again 😂 it’s wholesome yet sad

- Where did Sunflurry whatever her name is the main character lose her dad?

Also that red pony doesn’t deserve redemption maybe in the future but rn he was just an ***hole

- can they have phone calls now since they can go live?? Like couldnt he just call her like “yo get back now or what”
Also what is it with mlp and destroying houses 😭


S1 Episode 1 It started with a book and S9 Episode 26 it ends in a book I wonder why


Ive always wondered where  luna/nightmare Moon is in King sombra timeline


I’m Considering Sawtooth brought up twilights protege in another vid it got me thinking is twilight still in command we don’t really know what year it is in new generation on earth we gave time a name such as seconds minutes days and years while in mlp they define there time as moons as a way to symbolize how much time has passed but how can we tell how many years it’s been for them since the last episode of mlp. Is there a way to convert moons into our time? HOW MANY MINUTES HOURS DAYS DOES A FULL MOON CYCLE IN THERE WORLD TAKE? WHAT IS A MOON IN THERE WORLD MEAN TO US?
Sawtooth I know you’re there you’ve answered me before help us with this one
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In the one where night mare moon rules there is not a main six and there is no celestia because it was before night mare moon got sent to the moon. She obviously defeated celestia because there was no main six and with no main six there was no tree of harmony so that would result to night mare moon being undefeated.


I honestly don't think the forces of good control if Luna comes or not bc celestia defeated nightmare moon hence sending her to the moon for 1000 moons with a spell  and what if the spell only lasts for 1000 moons and when discord was ruling in both the universes and Luna just appeared and then in one discord lost and in the other discord won


But thats just a theory. A MLP THEORY! Hes literally the MatPat of MLP


he forgot that the main 6 are the spirits of the elamints


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Как всегда прекрасная теория


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“I don’t have a problem, I can quit whenever I want.”
- Sawtooth Waves (formally known as The Brony Notion) I don’t know the date becuase YouTube removed it


Could discord wield the elements of harmony?


Just a random question but are the discord, flim flam and nighmare moon timlines really bad ending timelines? As far as we know they do not harm the ponies, intentionally at least.


What if she just never became nightmare moon in the first place 🧐


You know the video above this and you said "There might be diffirent starlight's out there" Yeah they might be other mane 6's out there-


Maybe she was never banished in that time-line 🤔


i think Celestia released Nightmare Moon in both times and she told her that Discord is back and she ask her to help.....but the decision of Nightmare Moon is different, in one time she gives up and become Luna again and help Celestia; in the other time Nightmare Moon tries to defeat Discord by herself and all ponies will accept her as a ruler instead Celestia (imagine Nightmare Moon saying to Discord "Even villains have nightmares!")


I think that all three are a possibility because the make shift main 6 could have bin difeated in the other time lines. And I think that discord might have the power to remove magic because we do not know everything about him even now. And if the elder sister sent her to the moon with the elements who is to say that she did not set up the ability for her to be freed from her imprisonment in case she had no choice but to use her to keep Equestria safe and to have the chance to be with her again. So I think all of these outcomes are real and it just depends on which timeline you are in. And as for the ones were she was not let out she might not have had the key players to the times she was set free. So that could be why we do not see her in the other time lines.


Can you do a theory video about what happened to all the creatures from outside Equestria like Griffins, Hippogriffs, Yaks, Changelings and Dragons in the MLP G5 universe if it's even in the same universe as MLP_G4 since they we're welcome in Equestria in the MLP FIM show?


LUNA and Celestia banished discord before Luna turns into nightmare moon that's when they first showed up .Discord over powers both the princesses and takes over equestria .And in Luna's timeline discord was already turned into stone. She just have to over power Celestia and Equestria is hers


I have return to my favourite you  tuber since 9 years old

Edit:Derpy being the leader just makes me wanna cry in happiness


again with the alternate timelines?  They are actually some of my favorite videos


But what if, in the ones without moon, celestia one the gamble but failed later on


Yay you fixed one of the plot holes with The Cutie Remark


There is just one problem the mane six would still be able to have cutiemarks and twilight would still have that attitude so they meet again


Discord uses his ability on Nightmare Moon and swapped personalities.
<br>Nightmare Moon  got suppressed not Princess Luna

Discord uses his ability on Nightmare Moon and swapped personalities.
Nightmare Moon  got suppressed not Princess Luna


could Princess Twilight Sparkle save the multiverse?


it´s just funny when he ask. WHAT DO YOU THINK? when he just expleined literally all the posible answers. im allways impresed


sawtooth I know who released Nightmare Moon it was Twilight remember that mlp episode Twilight Kingdom where Celestia, Luna & Cadance gave Twilight their magic maybe just maybe Twilight In Twilight Kingdom went back in time and release Nightmare Moon

Twilight Did that so the future stayed intacked


How in the name if celestia do you come up with these theories


you can see a unicorn in the moon before her return


💫Kaiju battle between Discord and Nightmare Moon? I wanna see it.🌙


I have a question for you.<br>Why are the cutie marks only on one side from the ponies in my little pony a new generation?

I have a question for you.
Why are the cutie marks only on one side from the ponies in my little pony a new generation?